[12:00] <Sanne> Mabus06: there are several HTML validation errors on this page, so this is not correct HTML. That said, I can't see anything weird on my Firefox 1.5. It looks ok to me.
[12:00] <JptrDuo> kubuntu 5.10 is (a form of) breezy
[12:00] <navarone> johnny...I guess /list may work then...never chatted in console before
[12:00] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> !font
[12:00] <ubotu> 'fixed' is the one true font!
[12:00] <nass> yeah, same for me...... not ATI drivers.
[12:00] <snorks> How is it possible that a mp3 changes name in Winamp (or XMMS as my linux client is called) when it's only ONE mp3 (the whole album in 1 file), when all that is provided is that one .mp3? That's a first for me
[12:00] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> !fonts
[12:00] <ubotu> well, fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[12:00] <trinidad> yes i know
[12:00] <erUSUL> shachaf, run glxgears -prinfps
[12:00] <nass> fglrxinfo does not say it uses ATI drivers
[12:00] <trinidad> i started with ubuntu 5.04 and loved it!
[12:00] <trinidad> then found kde for ubuntu called kubuntu 5.04
[12:00] <Mabus06> Sanne, validation errors?
[12:00] <trinidad> that was even better
[12:01] <trinidad> then i migrated my work machine over to it
[12:01] <trinidad> it is great!
[12:01] <JptrDuo> I use kubuntu too... I prefer KDE over gnome
[12:01] <trinidad> me 2
[12:01] <ColdWind> How can I execute xterm passing a command?
[12:01] <Killer_Smurf> I'm gnome  I hate KDE
[12:01] <johnny___> it dosent work
[12:01] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: what kind of address are the other machines on the network getting...gimme an example
[12:01] <JptrDuo> KDE 3.5 even has a Mac OSX widgets-knockoff called "superkaramba" and it's all pacakged and ready for kubuntu 5.10 on the kubuntu website
[12:01] <Sanne> Mabus06: errors with the HTML validator from w3c. Wait a moment, I'll show you.
[12:01] <trinidad> yeah, superkaramba is great too
[12:02] <trinidad> JptrDuo, I use Kroller theme
[12:02] <shachaf> 489 FPS, I think.
[12:02] <Black_Hat> trinidad: what about usb to pcmcia adapter + orinoco pcmcia card
[12:02] <Black_Hat> would that work?
[12:02] <johnny___> any ideas
[12:02] <JptrDuo> I dono what that is, I havent looked at superkaramba in depth tho
[12:02] <Orporg> The machine I'm using now has this address: 192.168.2.103
[12:02] <snorks> How is it possible that a mp3 changes name in Winamp (or XMMS as my linux client is called) when it's only ONE mp3 (the whole album in 1 file), when all that is provided is that one .mp3? That's a first for me
[12:02] <trinidad> Black_Hat, you talking to me?>
[12:02] <Black_Hat> yse
[12:02] <trinidad> huh?
[12:03] <Black_Hat> trinidad: what about usb to pcmcia adapter + orinoco pcmcia card
[12:03] <snorks> It did it again...
[12:03] <Black_Hat> work
[12:03] <trinidad> Black_Hat, you lost me
[12:03] <trampolando> hello to everybody, I have a little problem... does anybody know hot to modify the "look" of the firefox buttons (for example search with google)
[12:03] <JptrDuo> isn't orinco wifi? we weren't talking bou wifi
[12:03] <trinidad> help me
[12:03] <cafuego> snorks: probably some advanced meta tag info with song offsets in it.
[12:03] <trinidad> i need help
[12:03] <shachaf> nass: I'll be right back.
[12:03] <Black_Hat> if i got a dongle that would connect via usb and provide me with some pcmcia slots on my apple ibook...and used a pcmcia lucent orinoco card...would that work?
[12:04] <snorks> cafuego: very cool. checking file info didnt show anything tho
[12:04] <trinidad> wifi ?  I was talking about monitors
[12:04] <Sanne> Mabus06: I uploaded the page to my server and validated it from there, here's the result of that: http://tinyurl.com/aoqg9
[12:04] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg:  then sudo ifconfig wlan0 192.168.2.x (where x is outside of dhcp pool) and sudo route add default gw addressofyourrouter
[12:04] <cafuego> snorks: it'll be in there, though :-)
[12:04] <trinidad> particularly the intel i810 chipset on a Dell 1905fp lcd
[12:04] <Black_Hat> im asking about my problem haha
[12:04] <trinidad> oh i c :)
[12:04] <trinidad> sorry
[12:04] <Black_Hat> no worries mate
[12:04] <anavim> Black_Hat: a $15 prism card from ebay would work.,... prism54.org
[12:04] <trinidad> :)
[12:04] <JptrDuo> Can anyone else help Black_Hat bout the usb/pcmcia ibook thingy?
[12:04] <Comrade_Vladimir> ok im back so what does ubuntu run on fat32 or ntfs or somethin else?
[12:04] <snorks> cafuego: oh well.
[12:05] <cafuego> trinidad: Well, a pcmcia wireless card won't fix that ;-)
[12:05] <snorks> cafuego: nothing beats dire straits at night times
[12:05] <trinidad> Comrade_Vladimir, fat32, ext, etc....
[12:05] <anavim> Black_Hat: and be sure the FCC ID matches, or you aren't guaranteed it's actually a prism card
[12:05] <JptrDuo> well I'm out, have a good nite
[12:05] <cafuego> snorks: I'll refrain from commenting...
[12:05] <trinidad> cafuego, ;)
[12:05] <Sanne> Mabus06: the important stuff begins at the red bar that sais: This page is not Valid HTML 4.01 Transitional!
[12:05] <Orporg> I assume the address of my router will be the "Gateway" IP given up by Windows?
[12:05] <Comrade_Vladimir> trinidad so its just fat32 then i was thinkin 64
[12:05] <PokerFacePenguin> yes
[12:05] <trinidad> Comrade_Vladimir, 64 ?
[12:05] <snorks> cafuego: hehe well considered i normally listen to psychedelic music (and the genres that goes with that) you would think im weird
[12:05] <cafuego> There is no FAT64.
[12:05] <qt2> !flash
[12:05] <Mabus06> Sanne, but that information is not correct... says that you cannot set an image to the background. That is clearly false.
[12:06] <ubotu> hmm... flash is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:06] <Comrade_Vladimir> trinadad like 64 bit
[12:06] <Comrade_Vladimir> not fat
[12:06] <trinidad> Comrade_Vladimir, there are many options for file system in linux
[12:06] <Orporg> Done.
[12:06] <Hentai^XP2> Comrade_Vladimir there is no fat64
[12:06] <trinidad> not just fat
[12:06] <Sanne> Mabus06: which message do you refer to?
[12:06] <Comrade_Vladimir> ok jeez
[12:06] <navarone> snorks...I have extensive collection of dire straits and mark knopfler...<s>
[12:06] <cafuego> snorks: No, I did my time on weed and old floyd as well, back in the eighties ;-)
[12:06] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: now verify with ifconfig that you have ip and interface up
[12:06] <Orporg> I gave Linux the address: 192.168.2.7 since I don't think anyone is using it
[12:06] <trinidad> cafuego, im doin time on it right now, however, trying to stop
[12:06] <johnny___> the command /list dosent work to list what chat rooms there are
[12:07] <snorks> cafuego: :-)
[12:07] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: also issue route command and see that you have route to the router in there
[12:07] <nass> Shachaf, it's working any better for you ?
[12:07] <johnny___> any ideas
[12:07] <Comrade_Vladimir> does anyone know where i can get a olympus m robe mr100 for like 120 usd or less
[12:07] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: then ping the router
[12:07] <trinidad> ok enough herb talk
[12:07] <snorks> cafuego: What rocks your boat nowadays?
[12:07] <navarone> trinidad...everything in moderation...unless it affects your health to it's detriment
[12:07] <cafuego> the salvation army didn't want it ;-)
[12:07] <snorks> haha
[12:07] <trinidad> :D
[12:07] <navarone> lol
[12:07] <Orporg> It says:  Destination host unreachable
[12:08] <Comrade_Vladimir> haha'
[12:08] <cafuego> snorks: Quite a lot, depending on mood. Ranges from spice girls (toilet cleaning music) to industrial goth
[12:08] <trinidad> Breeze @ 91%
[12:08] <trinidad> almost done
[12:08] <snorks> When I get old, like 65, I'll move to Jamaica and have a nice life with hot nice weather and stuff
[12:08] <trinidad> *breezy
[12:08] <navarone> lol@toilet cleaning music
[12:08] <cafuego> navarone: makes you clean faster, so you can turn it off
[12:08] <trinidad> be right back all
[12:08] <trinidad> smoke break
[12:08] <snorks> lol
[12:09] <johnny___> any ideasshit im smoking some nice stuff right now
[12:09] <navarone> cafuego...r-n-b is good...but depend on the era
[12:09] <lightbright> all of a SUDDEN, Ubuntu is running real slow, everything takes ages to load and it seems when something opens, the refresh rates are down from 30 fps to 15fps as it draws windows on screen slowly!  What could have caused this?
[12:09] <trappist> cafuego: I clean toilets faster so I can get my head out of the toilet
[12:09] <lightbright> navarone: any ideas please?
[12:09] <cafuego> navarone: Well true, rap as well.
[12:09] <gimmulF|GoAGNES>  _jason  after installing that java package i restarted browser but no java :(, but the plugin is here:    /opt/firefox/plugins/plugins/libjavaplugin.so
[12:09] <cafuego> old beastie boys, even run dmc...
[12:09] <lightbright> cafuego:  any ideas please?
[12:09] <nass> Shachaf, I restart X, be right back
[12:09] <trappist> gimmulF|GoAGNES: you are one plugins directory too deep
[12:09] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> ahh
[12:09] <navarone> lightbright...no idea...maybea  file system check going on in background?
[12:09] <cafuego> Not that newfangled my-dick-is-big-and-have-seven-bitches-coz-i'm-rich rap
[12:10] <WildPenguin> lightbright, run 'top'
[12:10] <trappist> gimmulF|GoAGNES: should be /opt/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so
[12:10] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> okok thanks
[12:10] <lightbright> navarone: how can I see if thats happening?
[12:10] <snorks> old stuff is nice
[12:10] <hlen> lightbright, maybe something is hogging your memory? G3 inside `top' might help you
[12:10] <snorks> that 50 cent dude can hang and drown
[12:10] <derek[] > Hi
[12:10] <trappist> snorks, cafuego: maybe #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:10] <lightbright> WildPenguin: i ran top and what should I look for?
[12:10] <navarone> cafuego> marvin gaye and the like...not what passes for music these days
[12:10] <lightbright> hlen:  i ran top and what should I look for?
[12:11] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: you have the router and the ap behind the DSL modem, so you are having routing problems somewhere...the gw is how the packets know where to go when they are not on the local lan...why are you on 192.168.2.0 network...is there also a 192.168.1.0 network?
[12:11] <feross> hello, anyone can tell me how to reinstall firefox and all dependencies?
[12:11] <snorks> trappist: hehe i was about to ask all the others to chill with the chatting, because it was hard having a conversation with cafuego
[12:11] <snorks> trappist: just kidding. dont hit
[12:11] <derek[] > I've accidently messed up the top-taskbar.. is there a way to reset its arrangement to default?
[12:11] <derek[] > all the menus are now floating towards  right-hand-side
[12:11] <lightbright> hlen: G3?
[12:12] <Orporg> I have no idea.  All I know is that it works with OS X and Windows.  Maybe I should try it without WEP on
[12:12] <lightbright> all of a SUDDEN, Ubuntu is running real slow, everything takes ages to load and it seems when something opens, the refresh rates are down from 30 fps to 15fps as it draws windows on screen slowly!  What could have caused this?
[12:12] <hlen> lightbright, type `G3zbx>' in top and try to find some process with a huge VIRT size
[12:12] <derek[] > Please help!!
[12:12] <Red-Sox> snorks: are you here?
[12:12] <snorks> Red-Sox: Hi Red-Sox
[12:12] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: well, that certainly will simplify troubleshooting
[12:12] <Red-Sox> snorks: ha!
[12:12] <snorks> Red-Sox: You disappeared yesterday
[12:12] <trappist> lightbright: look for the first item listed in top
[12:12] <Red-Sox> snorks: i know, im sorry, my dad was fooling around with the router
[12:12] <anavim> dang, this ubuntu heroes game is seriously un-productive  ;)
[12:12] <lightbright> trappist: ok
[12:13] <rambo3> whats the name of app : account manager in gnome
[12:13] <Orporg> All right, should I switch off WEP and log back on here?
[12:13] <Red-Sox> snorks: sorry
[12:13] <Red-Sox> snorks: join #Red-Sox
[12:13] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: get rid of the WEP
[12:13] <lightbright> trappist: xorg is first
[12:13] <Orporg> All right, I'll be back shortly.  I hope.
[12:14] <trappist> lightbright: how much cpu is it using
[12:14] <lightbright> trappist: xorg is first and the firefox
[12:14] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> trappist:  hmm still no java :)
[12:15] <lightbright> transgress: CPU says 5.2%
[12:15] <Veinos> how do i connect to internet (not wireless) ??
[12:15] <lightbright> trappist: : CPU says 5.2%
[12:15] <lightbright> trappist: : somtimes 6.9
[12:15] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> trappist:  my symblinks could be wrong i just installed 1.5
[12:15] <lightbright> trappist: any ideas?
[12:15] <trappist> lightbright: hit M (as in shift-m) and see if something else moves to the top
[12:15] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> !java
[12:15] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[12:16] <trappist> gimmulF|GoAGNES: ls -l /opt/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so
[12:16] <lightbright> trappist: ok
[12:16] <poningru> !wifi
[12:16] <ubotu> rumour has it, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[12:16] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> trappist:  -rw-r--r--  1 root root 135084 2005-12-03 00:10 /opt/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so
[12:16] <Orporg> All right.  WEP is off.  I'm rebooting Ubuntu just for the hell of it
[12:16] <lightbright> trappist: when I did shift-m firefox moved to top
[12:16] <trappist> gimmulF|GoAGNES: that file should be a symlink.
[12:17] <trappist> lightbright: and how much mem is firefox using
[12:17] <rambo3> whats the gui fronted for useradd or addusr and all those
[12:17] <trappist> lightbright: also on the 3rd line from the top, what's the % wa
[12:17] <Orporg> My video resolution seems to be horribly low too.... but that's for another time
[12:17] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> trappist:  hmmm ok :)
[12:17] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: when u reboot, u will be bck in dhcp mode again
[12:17] <Orporg> Good
[12:17] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> trappist:  to?
[12:18] <trappist> gimmulF|GoAGNES: depends on where your java installation is
[12:18] <lightbright> trappist: let me look
[12:18] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> trappist:  you know whats default?
[12:18] <Elive_user> hello
[12:18] <trappist> gimmulF|GoAGNES: no
[12:18] <lightbright> trappist: it says under % for firefox 26.1.  is this normal?
[12:18] <Elsan> The command " sudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/* ." only creates a file called "*" in the current folder.
[12:19] <trappist> lightbright: means firefox is using 26.1% of your ram.  that seems like a lot to me.
[12:19] <lightbright> trappist: what does your say?
[12:19] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> trappist:  whereisjava:  java: /usr/bin/java /usr/bin/X11/java /usr/share/java /usr/share/man/man1/java.1.gz
[12:19] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> which one you think?
[12:19] <Orporg> Should I get rid of the WEP key, etc. in the Networking configuration thing?
[12:20] <trappist> gimmulF|GoAGNES: have a look in /usr/share/java/plugins
[12:20] <LeeJunFan> trappist: it depends on how much ram you have as a %
[12:20] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> trappist:  hmm theres no plugin dir there
[12:20] <lightbright> trappist: so what do I do?  stop using Firefox? :P  i have 256mg ram and it was fast before
[12:20] <steve_laptop> hello all ? is anyone running ubuntu on a sony laptop? mine is a S460
[12:20] <Elsan> The command " sudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/* ." only creates a file called "*" in the current folder. Any help? Please?
[12:20] <lightbright> LeeJunFan: do you use Firefox?
[12:20] <trappist> lightbright: close it and open it back up and see what happens
[12:20] <lightbright> trappist: ok brb
[12:20] <LeeJunFan> lightbright: on occasion to view flash.
[12:21] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> Anyone know where java plugin dir is by default?
[12:21] <derek[] > I've accidently messed up the top-taskbar.. is there a way to reset its arrangement to default? all the menus are now floating towards  right-hand-side.. Please help!!
[12:21] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: remove all traces of wep until you get it working without it...then you can get it more complex
[12:21] <Orporg> All right.  It's trying to activate wlan0
[12:21] <lightbright> trappist: it now says under % for firefox 21.0
[12:21] <gfish> ok if i install windows
[12:21] <trappist> lightbright: something sounds weird with your firefox
[12:22] <trinidad> ok im back
[12:22] <gfish> will it remove all my linux partitions
[12:22] <LeeJunFan> lightbright: it uses 4% of mine, but I have a gig of ram.
[12:22] <trinidad> gfish, only if you tell it to
[12:22] <lightbright> LeeJunFan: can you please load Firefox and then top and tell me how much the number says under % of %mem ?
[12:22] <LeeJunFan> lightbright: how much total ram do you have?
[12:22] <lightbright> trappist: so what you recommend?
[12:22] <Orporg> I set the default gateway device to wlan0
[12:22] <lightbright> LeeJunFan: 256
[12:22] <Orporg> And hit OK and it's taking an eternity thinking
[12:22] <LeeJunFan> lightbright: that's why - what's it say under RES?
[12:23] <lightbright> LeeJunFan: 26m
[12:23] <lightbright> LeeJunFan: whats res mean?
[12:23] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: ?  default gw is going to be your router...so it knows how to get outside of 192.168.2.0 network
[12:23] <Techie_dude> um...i downloaded a driver and it don't help so i tried to send it to trash....it won't let me..
[12:23] <lightbright> LeeJunFan: 26m , is this ok?
[12:23] <LeeJunFan> lightbright: residential size, the amount it's actually using. 26m is what I have too.
[12:24] <Orporg> No dice.  I sitll have no Internet
[12:24] <PokerFacePenguin> assuming that AP is actually on the 192.168.2.0 network
[12:24] <lightbright> trappist: Ok you have told me a problem and so whats your SOLUTION? so what you recommend?
[12:24] <gfish> triniad, how do i do thay
[12:24] <lightbright> LeeJunFan: ok any recommandation?
[12:24] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: have you reviewed the wiki on wifi yet?
[12:24] <PokerFacePenguin> !wifi
[12:24] <ubotu> I heard wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[12:24] <Techie_dude> HOw do i get it deleated
[12:25] <hlen> lightbright, _if you don't have anything important open in firefox_, `killall firefox' and see if it helps
[12:25] <Orporg> Oh yes
[12:25] <LeeJunFan> lightbright: get more RAM.
[12:25] <lightbright> LeeJunFan: Ubuntu before today was always fast!  yet today everything seems slow, even opening windows seems its like at 15fps
[12:25] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: ok, wasnt sure where u were at with all this yet
[12:25] <hlen> lightbright, that'll close your firefox windows
[12:25] <lightbright> hlen: ok
[12:25] <hi-fo-web> hey new to this
[12:25] <lightbright> hlen: it said: firefox: no process killed
[12:25] <Orporg> THere's this nifty little utility I have that connects the access point via USB.
[12:25] <Johnson> hi can you get a good ip scanner for linux?
[12:25] <gfish> triniad, how do i tell it to get rid of the linux partitons
[12:25] <Johnson> like angry ip scanner for windows?
[12:25] <LeeJunFan> lightbright: what does it say on the second column next to Swap: in top?
[12:25] <Techie_dude> LeeJunFan  any idea on how to get htis file deleated that won't let me deleat it?
[12:25] <Orporg> It has various data in it
[12:26] <Tedd> Can anybody help me? I'm looking for a sound diagnostic for Ubuntu.
[12:26] <lightbright> hlen: I typed:  killall firefox
[12:26] <lightbright>  and it said: firefox: no process killed
[12:26] <lightbright> LeeJunFan: brb
[12:26] <hlen> lightbright, hrm, what's the name of the firefox binary? `pgrep -l firefox'
[12:26] <_jason> lightbright, should be firefox-bin
[12:26] <sethk> lightbright, you probably need either firefox-bin, or the full path
[12:26] <Techie_dude> CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME??????
[12:26] <LeeJunFan> lightbright: killall firefox-bin
[12:26] <jim_hough> does anyone have a clue as to why 'System -> Preferences -> Screensaver' cannot set the display power management correctly? it's not greyed out, changes effect .xscreensaver but they dont take. i have tried restarting the daemon and X. i have also tried using the 'Option "OffTime"  "[time] "' in my xorg.conf as well as checking that my monitor is specified as 'DPMS'. Sofar the only thing that correctly sets my monitor to turn off after inac
[12:26] <jim_hough> tivity is by using setx.
[12:26] <navarone> maybe you need to sudo to kill process?
[12:26] <lightbright> LeeJunFan: I dont have a swap column
[12:26] <LeeJunFan> Techie_dude: what are you trying to delete?
[12:26] <Polibio> hola
[12:26] <Johnson> an ip scanner anyone
[12:26] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: traceroute to the outside internet from the working computer
[12:26] <Techie_dude> a driver that i installed and i just want to send it to the trash...it won't let me
[12:26] <Orporg> It says: IP address: 192.168.2.101, Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0 AND Gateway: 192.168.2.1
[12:26] <oblib> why does samba mount always ask for a password?
[12:27] <gfish> how do i install windows and get it to remove all the linux partitons
[12:27] <Johnson>  dose any know a good linux ip scanner
[12:27] <LeeJunFan> lightbright: well there's another problem alltogether, you have no swap.
[12:27] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: that is on the working computer or on the wifi setup?
[12:27] <lightbright> killall firefox-bin worked!  So what I do now?  load firefox again?
[12:27] <LeeJunFan> Techie_dude: are you trying to do it from a command line? what error does it give if so?
[12:27] <hi-fo-web> u might can upgrade it or formate it and put windows on it
[12:28] <Techie_dude> i am doing it from my desktop how do i do it manually
[12:28] <Drgb> johnson, try nmap
[12:28] <Drgb> ...
[12:28] <lightbright> LeeJunFan: when I type cfdisk /dev/hda it says hda2 is the swap
[12:28] <NoobieDoobieDo> hi
[12:28] <LeeJunFan> Techie_dude: open a gconsole or gterm, whatever it's called in gnome, then do rm [filename] 
[12:28] <NoobieDoobieDo> hi
[12:28] <Drgb> hi everyone, i've got a very, very, very big question
[12:28] <lightbright> LeeJunFan: when I typed "G3" it now shows a SWAP
[12:28] <Orporg> That is on the WiFI setup.  I have a small Windows utility that connects up to the Netgear access point via USB.
[12:28] <gfish> how do i install windows and remove all of the linux partitions
[12:28] <LeeJunFan> lightbright: try running 'free' in a shell and see if it shows any swap.
[12:29] <Drgb> i'd like to use my iPod on my ubuntu os
[12:29] <lightbright> LeeJunFan: when I loaded top it doesnt show SWAP, but when I load top and typed "G3" it now shows a SWAP
[12:29] <Orporg> I'll do the traceroute on my iBook, as it has UNIX commands under terminal
[12:29] <Drgb> do you know any solution?
[12:29] <hlen> lightbright, swapon -s and see if it lists hda2
[12:29] <djk_> gfish: put the win cd in and delete the partitions then create a fat32/ntfs and install win on it..
[12:29] <Techie_dude> it says can't remove it it is a directory
[12:29] <Tedd> Is there any sound diagnostic for ubuntu
[12:29] <TwiFeR> #ubuntu-es
[12:29] <Drgb> Techie_dude, use rmdir filename
[12:29] <LeeJunFan> gfish: you grab your right foot and pull it repeatedly into your groin area until you wake up. :)
[12:29] <gfish> djk_, thanks
[12:29] <lightbright> LeeJunFan: when I typed free; it says: Mem:        126776     112824      13952          0       2524      43280
[12:29] <lightbright>  -/+ buffers/cache:      67020      59756
[12:29] <lightbright> 
[12:29] <djk_> gfish: but that is an evil move. it will haunt you, haunt you i say!
[12:29] <lightbright> LeeJunFan: Swap:       747012     104632     642380
[12:30] <Tedd> LeeJunFan: Genius. Pure genius.
[12:30] <derek[] > will someone help me please?
[12:30] <Johnson_> how can i find out the commands in irc in console
[12:30] <sethk> Techie_dude, when it says it can't remove it because it is a directory, then it _is_ a directory
[12:30] <Orporg> How do I type in the traceroute command?  It appears to have a lot of options
[12:30] <lightbright> hlen: when I typed your command it said: /dev/hda2                               partition       747012  104592  -1
[12:30] <lightbright> hlen:  is that ok?
[12:30] <hlen> lightbright, nothing to worry about. is your problem fixed?
[12:30] <PokerFacePenguin> Johnson_: do a /help
[12:30] <Comrade_Vladimir> hahahaha im still here menacing away!
[12:31] <LeeJunFan> lightbright: okay, good - you do have swap, but that also tells us that your machine is using 104632 swap which is close to half your real RAM, more RAM would really help.
[12:31] <Drgb> guys, does anyone of you have an iPod working on his ubuntu os??????
[12:31] <djk_> derek[] : what's the prob
[12:31] <PokerFacePenguin> traceroute www.yahoo.com
[12:31] <Johnson_> that isnt working
[12:31] <lightbright> hlen: so the swap is active and working?
[12:31] <hlen> lightbright, yes
[12:31] <Orporg> Of course, duh.  Sorry
[12:31] <jim_hough> anyone reccomend a good setup for watching movies on a tv using a radeon (with TV-out) and mplayer?
[12:31] <lightbright> LeeJunFan: but 256ram has always worked great befoere today
[12:31] <purplelint> Drgb:  just plugged in my 3rd gen ipod to my7
[12:31] <lightbright> LeeJunFan: my Ubuntu was fast until today
[12:31] <LeeJunFan> lightbright: have you rebooted anytime recently?
[12:31] <Orporg> Many many hops
[12:31] <Drgb> purplelint, and what soft do you use?
[12:31] <Techie_dude> is there any way to deleat it?
[12:31] <lightbright> LeeJunFan: yes today
[12:31] <purplelint> ahem  ... as I was saying:  into my breezy.
[12:32] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: did you set up your router? or did someone do it for you?
[12:32] <Drgb> breezy?
[12:32] <purplelint> Drgb:  use gtkpod - i used it on FC3 as well.
[12:32] <Drgb> where can I get it?
[12:32] <lightbright> LeeJunFan: do i have to reinstall Ubuntu?
[12:32] <LeeJunFan> lightbright: check top again, and look at the top line and see what it says next to load average:
[12:32] <Orporg> I set it up.  But it was pretty much a plug and play affair
[12:32] <Drgb> uhm
[12:32] <LeeJunFan> lightbright: no.
[12:32] <Drgb> ok, I'll try
[12:32] <Drgb> thx
[12:32] <lightbright> LeeJunFan: ok let me look
[12:33] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: i ask because it might not be issuing your dhcp....it might be your provider that gives you an address
[12:33] <Techie_dude> LeeJunFan is there any way to deleat the directory?
[12:33] <Orporg> Traceroute went through about 16 hops to get to Yahoo.
[12:33] <purplelint> Drgb:  easiest way is to grab it from synaptic (i think it's in universe)
[12:33] <LeeJunFan> Techie_dude: rm -rf [directory] 
[12:33] <synackuator>  XMMS  Current Playing  Billy Ocean - When the Going Gets Tough, The Tough Get Going [1986]  ( S K Y . F M - Best of the 80s - hear your classic favorites and relive those retro 80s!) 
[12:33] <purplelint> otherwise:  http://www.gtkpod.org/about.html
[12:33] <synackuator> sorry didn't mean to do that
[12:33] <Orporg> I'm pretty sure it's issuing DHCP.  The other machines grab from it and the configuration thing is set to DHCP
[12:33] <lightbright> LeeJunFan: wehn I load top, i dont see a load average line?
[12:33] <LeeJunFan> Techie_dude: or sudo rm -rf [directory]  if it's somehow owned by root.
[12:33] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: did it go through 192.168.1.x to get there?
[12:33] <LeeJunFan> lightbright: should be at the very top
[12:34] <theCore> Techie_dude: handle this command with care
[12:34] <lightbright> LeeJunFan: I see it :)  load average: 0.06, 0.21, 0.31
[12:34] <purplelint> Drgb:  i've heard 5.04 wasn't too good, but 5.10 is better.   another thing you need to be clear on:  usb or firewire.
[12:34] <purplelint> i'm actually using firewire, and it's actually working.  most of the time.
[12:34] <Drgb> firewire? it didn't work with me
[12:34] <lightbright> LeeJunFan: does that look ok?
[12:34] <LeeJunFan> lightbright: okay, so your system isn't under any workload, good. Have you tried to install any 3D drivers or changed your video settings at all?
[12:34] <Orporg> That was the first hop.  It said: (192.168.2.1).  The second hop said: * * *.  From there on I get lots of IPs
[12:35] <lightbright> LeeJunFan: and it says 2 users, but im the only one using this system
[12:35] <Drgb> it seems ubuntu doesn't recognize firewire devices....it's so strange
[12:35] <purplelint> that doesn't surprise me.  firewire support in linux is kinda hairy
[12:35] <lightbright> LeeJunFan: no i havent changed any of that
[12:35] <WildPenguin> lightbright, if you have a terminal running, that is normal
[12:35] <LeeJunFan> lightbright: it will say that for the number of shells you have open, it's just you - one user.
[12:35] <Techie_dude> it does through all the files in that directory then it says cannot remove file after each one
[12:35] <purplelint> the first time i plugged in my ipod on breezy, it didn't work.    the next day, it did.   :)
[12:35] <lightbright> WildPenguin: but i only have 1 shell open
[12:35] <LeeJunFan> lightbright: plus gnome.
[12:35] <PokerFacePenguin> 192.168.2.1 is your gw ip then
[12:35] <djk_> Techie_dude: then it's owned by root.
[12:35] <lightbright> LeeJunFan: ah ok :)
[12:35] <derek[] > djk_, I've accidently messed up the top-taskbar.. is there a way to reset its arrangement to default? all the menus are now floating towards  right-hand-side.. Please help!!
[12:35] <Drgb> purplelint, what's breezy???
[12:35] <Techie_dude> how do i deleat it then
[12:36] <lightbright> gnome + Terminal = 2 :)
[12:36] <gnomefreak> breezy is ubuntu 5.10
[12:36] <Drgb> uh? lol
[12:36] <mwe> Techie_dude: sudo rm -rf
[12:36] <lightbright> LeeJunFan: ok ill leave it for now and wait for next reboot and see what happens!  Thank you for ALL your help
[12:36] <PokerFacePenguin> when you have an ip on your wlan0, you should issue the route command and make sure default gw entry is in there
[12:36] <LeeJunFan> Techie_dude: did you try sudo rm -rf [directory] 
[12:36] <lightbright> WildPenguin:  ty for your help
[12:36] <purplelint> yea, what he said.  :)
[12:36] <lightbright> hlen:  thanks :)
[12:36] <segfault2k> hi
[12:36] <WildPenguin> lightbright, Anytime.
[12:36] <purplelint> after you plug in your firewire device, type "dmesg" in a console to see if ubuntu sees it.
[12:37] <segfault2k> Dapper is installable? via Ubuntu Server?
[12:37] <djk_> derek[] : uh.. i don't use gnome, so no idea how to do it. maybe someone with gnome will help
[12:37] <lightbright> and thanks to sethk  and _jason too
[12:37] <segfault2k> Dapper is installable? via Ubuntu 5.10 Server?
[12:37] <segfault2k> or is broken?
[12:37] <_jason> lightbright, np
[12:37] <synackuator> what was the ati driver name in aptitude again?
[12:37] <Techie_dude> thankyou
[12:37] <lightbright> LeeJunFan: according to all the figures, my system seems fine, so i shall see what happens at next reboot then
[12:37] <dli> does ubuntu installation create a non-root user by default?
[12:37] <lightbright> hang on!  its faster again
[12:37] <lightbright> hmm interersting
[12:38] <LeeJunFan> lightbright: what time is it there?
[12:38] <gnomefreak> segfault2k,  you only need to ask once and as for it being installable people have it so you can dowload it me personally i dont see the point in it yet unless you are testing it
[12:38] <Johnson_> how do i go back the screen whee i can type the /join #roomname and it takes you there
[12:38] <lightbright> since I killed firefox, 1 mins later its fast
[12:38] <derek[] > ok
[12:38] <djk_> dli: no, just the user you create during installation
[12:38] <lightbright> LeeJunFan: 10?30am
[12:38] <derek[] > thanks anyway
[12:38] <Orporg> You mean I should stick the AP's IP in the Networking panel?
[12:38] <_jason> lightbright, what version of firefox were you using and did you happen to run any java while you were browsing?
[12:38] <LeeJunFan> lightbright: okay, nevermind, I wondered if it was time for updatedb to run there. That'll make your system work.
[12:38] <lightbright> LeeJunFan: could Firefox be causing this?  but why was firefox not cuasing problems before today I wonder
[12:38] <gnomefreak> Johnson_,  you will see on x-chat a button that says something servers
[12:39] <segfault2k> gnomefreak: yes i want to test dapper, and second.. i've repeat the post to show the ubuntu version
[12:39] <dli> djk_: then, I'm worried, a nonexperienced user might use the default account for everything
[12:39] <lightbright> _jason: yeah maybe cause I played a video file before embedded into a webpage
[12:39] <LeeJunFan> lightbright: your memory may have been used less.
[12:39] <lightbright> LeeJunFan: whats updatedb?
[12:39] <Johnson_> yeh im in console irc
[12:39] <_jason> lightbright, sometimes java likes to hog memory
[12:39] <Drgb> purplelint, do you want to read something very funny?
[12:39] <djk_> dli: why
[12:39] <LeeJunFan> lightbright: it indexes all your files on the system for fast searching using locate.
[12:39] <gnomefreak> segfault2k,  you want to upgrade from breezy to dapper?
[12:39] <lightbright> _jason: yeah and does it take a while before its released?
[12:39] <segfault2k> gnomefreak: yep
[12:39] <Drgb> i used firewire and it worked...but it wasn't working yesterday
[12:39] <Drgb> ghghghgh
[12:39] <lightbright> LeeJunFan: ok
[12:39] <segfault2k> im using gentoo right now
[12:40] <segfault2k> but i want to try dapper
[12:40] <lightbright> LeeJunFan: what webbroweser do you use?
[12:40] <LeeJunFan> lightbright: yeah, it could have been java or some heavy flash or something on a page you visited today maybe?
[12:40] <gnomefreak> segfault2k, i havent heard anything so far about the upgrade process to see if it works
[12:40] <dli> djk_: the default user are in root group?
[12:40] <djk_> dli: sudoer
[12:40] <purplelint> ok - what's funny?
[12:40] <PokerFacePenguin> i mean if the AP has its own network and knows how to route to the router which knows how to get out the dsl modem, then if the wifi card defaults everything not on 192.168.2.0 network to the ap, it should get out
[12:40] <_jason> lightbright, I would say so but only from personal experience... I don't know if that's really true
[12:40] <lightbright> LeeJunFan: maybe
[12:41] <LeeJunFan> lightbright: mostly konqueror on kde, firefox when I need flash because I have firefox load in 32bit, but konqueror is 64bit AMD here, and flash wont work with 64bit.
[12:41] <lightbright> _jason: ok
[12:41] <lightbright> LeeJunFan: ok
[12:41] <lightbright> brb
[12:41] <dli> djk_: it's still like windows?
[12:41] <Drgb> purplelint, this demonstrates ubuntu's firewire is crazy
[12:41] <Orporg> I think you've lost me here but.... how I do get the damn Wifi card to cooperate then?
[12:41] <gnomefreak> lol @ liek windows
[12:41] <gnomefreak> like*
[12:41] <segfault2k> why flash dont work in 64bits?
[12:41] <dli> djk_: the default user doesn't need a passwd to run root
[12:42] <purplelint> Drgb:  testify, dude
[12:42] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: the routes tell the packets how to get from here to there...like a phonebook...i believe you are having a routing problem and not a wifi problem
[12:42] <LeeJunFan> segfault2k: because they only release a 32 bit version.
[12:42] <djk_> dli: you can create a root account if you want and remove the default user from the sudoers list or just add a new user without sudo rights.
[12:42] <Orporg> Ah, I think I get you.  So how do I force the correct routing?
[12:42] <dodgyville> Hello. I have sd card that's being mounted read-only because of an invalid cluster chain. fsck.vfat finds errors, but gives the message "leaving file system unchanged".
[12:42] <kung> hi, which is the current breezy kernel version?
[12:42] <LeeJunFan> segfault2k: in short form: Macromedia is lame.
[12:43] <djk_> dli: ubuntu only has one because it's "easier" for noobs to remember only one password and bla..
[12:43] <gnomefreak> kernel 2.6.12-10
[12:43] <kung> thx
[12:43] <gnomefreak> yw
[12:43] <dli> djk_ I recommend ubuntu for n00bs only :(
[12:43] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: the routes get added automatically with dhcp...perhaps the ap has dhcp?  perhaps add static ip address to everything ?
[12:43] <The_Isle_of_Mark> dli ubuntu is not just for noobs
[12:43] <dli> djk_: I didn't realize ubuntu follows the windows way
[12:43] <LeeJunFan> dli: for noobs only? what do you recommend for non-noobs?
[12:43] <ColdWind> some knows if Devil's Pie works with other WM (not just Metacity)?
[12:43] <djk_> dli: if they are literate, there shouldn't be a problem.
[12:44] <dli> LeeJunFan, gento
[12:44] <gnomefreak> ubuntu is for all people
[12:44] <Orporg> The AP does have DHCP.  It's enabled.  And DHCP is how the other two machines get their IP addresses.
[12:44] <djk_> dli: wrong, windows sorta followed *nix...
[12:44] <Aven> hi
[12:44] <Aven> how do I find out my root password?
[12:44] <mwe> what the hell. I've used linux for almost 10 years and I use ubuntu because I like it
[12:44] <djk_> dli: besides, for everything that needs root the user needs to enter the user pw
[12:44] <_jason> ubotu, tell Aven about root
[12:44] <sethk> Aven, you don't find it out, you set it.
[12:44] <darkgamer20> how my webcam won't work even though its supported by the spca5xx driver? please help
[12:44] <dli> djk_: unix restricts root usage, sudoer is not the answer, a script worm can get root
[12:44] <Aven> sethk, how?
[12:45] <LeeJunFan> dli: pro's who run servers have better things to do that wait for 20 systems to compile a whole distro :)
[12:45] <sethk> Aven, sudo passwd
[12:45] <erisco> where can i get a list of nvidia graphic card clocking speeds?
[12:45] <The_Isle_of_Mark> dli not everyone wants to compile everything. binary distros are great. try setting that cluster up on gentoo in a decent amount of time when one fails...mission critical you should have a binary distro
[12:45] <gnomefreak> djk_,  windows couldnt have done anything to take after unix
[12:45] <purplelint> mwe: i'm in the same boat as you - 10 yrs of linux, and ubuntu rocks.
[12:45] <ColdWind> dli: there're expert people who prefer Ubuntu rather than Gentoo
[12:45] <gnomefreak> dos and unix are much different
[12:45] <_jason> Aven, you don't need root, use sudo... read the link ubotu sent you for more info
[12:45] <Aven> w00t, thanks
[12:45] <djk_> gnomefreak: don't take things i say out of context
[12:45] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: ok, is the ap is serving dhcp addresses to all clients...even the ones that work?
[12:45] <Aven> _jason, I do use sudo
[12:45] <ColdWind> dli: it depends if you want to spend time on set-up things or not
[12:45] <The_Isle_of_Mark> I have been working for years with linux mission critical systems, and I prefer ubuntu on my machines
[12:45] <dli> LeeJunFan, when you have 20 systems ( which are less than what I run now), you use distcc in emerging, can you compile once for the 20 systems
[12:45] <Aven> _jason, I installed cpanel and it requires to login with root
[12:46] <gnomefreak> djk_,  i took it as you said it you said windows kinda took after unix
[12:46] <Aven> so, everything is done on a webbrowser, not terminal :P
[12:46] <Johnson_> waany know a good ip scanner?
[12:46] <LeeJunFan> dli: if they are all the same.
[12:46] <mwe> dli: If you actually read about ubuntu, you would know the reason the devs chose to use sudo by default is not to make it easy for noobs
[12:46] <Johnson_> i need one
[12:46] <djk_> gnomefreak: no, in regards to the adminaccount, yes.
[12:46] <Orporg> Yes, I believe so.  It is serving up the IPs via DHCP.  I have BOTH the Windows XP and Mac OS X machine configured using DHCP.  Ijust checked
[12:46] <dli> djk_: oh, it's still passwd protected? then, that should be okay
[12:46] <PokerFacePenguin> Johnson_: nmap for scanning....netcat for a quick look
[12:46] <djk_> dli: aren't you using ubuntu?
[12:46] <djk_> dli: might be better to check out a distro before recommending it to others ;)
[12:46] <gnomefreak> djk_,  windows holds your password account in linux unix holds your password account
[12:47] <Johnson_> would that check if the ip are alive over a range of them
[12:47] <dli> djk_: no, I only recommend linux for friends who are tired of endless windows spywares and viruses
[12:47] <gnomefreak> admin account doesnt have anything to do with dos as sudo has nothing to do with linux
[12:47] <djk_> gnomefreak: the adminaccount in xp was modelled after *nix. that's what i said.
[12:47] <ColdWind> dli: all windows users are tired of this
[12:47] <Comrade_Vladimir> g2g bye
[12:47] <dli> djk_: I heard it's debian based, didn't realize what they did with root
[12:48] <Tedd> Once again is there a sound diagnostic for the Ubuntu OS>
[12:48] <LeeJunFan> Johnson_: if you want to check a span of systems for being up use nmap -sP -PI 192.168.1.1-254 (or whatever IP range you are working with)
[12:48] <Tedd> Once again is there a sound diagnostic for the Ubuntu OS>
[12:48] <djk_> gnomefreak: don't lecture me about the things i say when you take them out of context and talk about frogs while i talk about the french ;)
[12:48] <dli> ColdWind, right, I see no reason for them to enjoy spywares :)
[12:48] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: ok, so dhcp serves addresses to all clients correctly.  The addresses they get and the gateway they use are also what you will be using for ubuntu.
[12:48] <ColdWind> ;)
[12:48] <Orporg> Yes
[12:48] <dli> Tedd, most people do "aplay /dev/urandom"
[12:48] <Orporg> So I should just enter it manually?
[12:48] <Tedd> What does that do?
[12:48] <ColdWind> I don't know why people complaint about the root account disabled
[12:48] <ColdWind> what's wrong with it?
[12:48] <fissy> Tedd, don't do that if you value your speakers
[12:48] <gnomefreak> djk_,  what your saying sounds like windows would be comparable to unix and its not dos is comaprable to unix windows is comparable to unix
[12:49] <Tedd> I do. What would it do?
[12:49] <fissy> effectively, will play white noise out of them
[12:49] <Tedd> How irritating. dli: You, sir, are a dickhead.
[12:49] <dli> Tedd: what's wrong with sound there? do you have alsa in "dmesg" ?
[12:49] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: if dhcp is not serving you an address to your wlan0 i would try to set it static ....including the same routes
[12:49] <Tedd> Wha?
[12:50] <Tedd> Well I have four speakers and only two work.
[12:50] <djk_> gnomefreak: let's /query.
[12:50] <Tedd> Second, the sound quality could be better.
[12:50] <Orporg> Ok, let me try this.... Windows is taking 192.168
[12:50] <The_Isle_of_Mark> Tedd what sound card do you have?
[12:50] <Orporg> Shit.  Sorry
[12:51] <Tedd> I haven't a clue. That's a problem too.
[12:51] <Tedd> I believe it's a soundblaster
[12:51] <fissy> Tedd, maybe some things need unmuting in the mixer? I also find that reducing the software volume to less than 80% and increasing the amplifier volume to accomodate does the trick with regard to quality
[12:51] <Tedd> Mixer?
[12:51] <fissy> but sometimes drivers for onboard sound cards just aren't very good
[12:51] <dli> Tedd: play with "alsamixer"
[12:51] <Orporg> Ok.  I put in the following:  IP Address: 192.168.0.104, Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0.  Gateway address: 192.168.2.1.  Do I just hit OK now?
[12:51] <fissy> Tedd, do you have a volume icon in the top right of your screen?
[12:52] <PokerFacePenguin> yes
[12:52] <dli> Tedd: you can try "booster", "3D", in alsamixer
[12:52] <LeeJunFan> Tedd, fissy: agreed, having any volume at 100% usually causes crap quality, be it PCM/WAV or Master, etc...
[12:52] <Orporg> Should I activate and deactivate the wlan0?
[12:52] <PokerFacePenguin> yes
[12:53] <Orporg> Still nothing
[12:53] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: i still believe its routing...you on a laptop with this wifi?
[12:53] <Tedd> Any ideas regarding the two-speakers problem
[12:54] <The_Isle_of_Mark> Tedd people have been giving you ideas
[12:54] <Orporg> The Ubuntu machine is a desktop.  The Mac machine is a laptop.  The Windows is a desktop.
[12:54] <Tedd> On Quality.
[12:54] <The_Isle_of_Mark> Tedd do this go to applications >> accessories >> terminal
[12:54] <fissy> Tedd, double click on the volume icon in the top right corner and try and find volume sliders for surround speakers in the application that comes up. you might find them muted
[12:54] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: so your wifi card is not mobile...correct?
[12:54] <Tedd> I'll check. Thanks.
[12:54] <Orporg> No
[12:54] <dli> Tedd: check cables :) and controllers on your speakers
[12:54] <Orporg> It's just good ol' PCI
[12:55] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: was going to suggest you take it out and about and try to connect somewhere
[12:56] <Orporg> I can't, sorry.  If it helps, the access point is about 3 feet from the computer so signal strength isn't a problem
[12:57] <AnonyMouse> hello all
[12:57] <bornxbackwards> hi
[12:57] <dli> Orporg, can you see it in "iwlist eth0 scan" or something like that
[12:58] <AnonyMouse> i'm new to ubuntu, and am having some serious installation issues :(
[12:58] <Orporg> It says:  No scan results when I put in: "iwlist wlan0 scan"
[12:59] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: if you can see the ap with the signal strength meter it is working correctly with linux...the ip part of this comes with configuration either through dhcp or manually setting it with static ip and route
[12:59] <Orporg> I have no signal strength meter in Linux.  I'm going off the other machine's signal
[12:59] <Orporg> I wish I had another one of these damn cards
[01:00] <dli> Orporg, what if just run "iwconfig" with no argument at all
[01:00] <LeeJunFan> Orporg: try 'ifconfig eth0 0.0.0.0 up && iwlist eth0 scan'
[01:00] <Orporg> Putting "wlan0" in place of "eth0" I assume?
[01:00] <LeeJunFan> Orporg: yeah.
[01:00] <hydroksyde> hello
[01:00] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> Isnt mplayer in respitorys?
[01:00] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> cant find it
[01:01] <bornxbackwards> gimmulF|GoAGNES, no it isn't
[01:01] <_jason> gimmulF|GoAGNES, it's there
[01:01] <_jason> gimmulF|GoAGNES, you need universe/multiverse, do you have those?
[01:01] <Orporg> With no arguments at all:  I get IEEE 802.11b+.  ESSID: "Gatos" Mode: Auto.  Access point: 00:00:00:00. etc.  Signal level: 0  Noise level: 0
[01:01] <kvidell> Anyone here ever get an Epson Photo Stylus 2200 to work?
[01:02] <hydroksyde> I'm building a PC for a friend, will Ubuntu run well on an AMD K6-2 333 with 64MB of RAM and a 10GB hard drive?
[01:02] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> hmmm i have:  deb http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse  jarlev
[01:02] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: argh, u arent seeing the ap
[01:02] <PokerFacePenguin> lol
[01:02] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> jason_
[01:02] <_jason> gimmulF|GoAGNES, that's backports, post your /etc/apt/sources.list on pasatebin please
[01:02] <navarone> Anonymous> state the nature of the emergency...lol...and someone will likely try to help
[01:02] <LeeJunFan> Orporg: did you try 'ifconfig eth0 0.0.0.0 up && iwlist eth0 scan' yet?
[01:03] <Orporg> No scan results
[01:03] <pozdiy> installing realplay with its default installer, what should be proper directory for its installation (/usr/local/bin)?
[01:03] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> ok
[01:03] <kvidell> hydroksyde: Generally, yes.
[01:03] <Orporg> Yes.  I tried those commands and I got "No scan results."
[01:03] <hydroksyde> would it be worthwhile upgrading to 128MB?
[01:03] <Orporg> Apparently not.
[01:03] <kvidell> hydroksyde: the more the merrier.
[01:03] <kvidell> s6
[01:03] <Orporg> You guys must be saints.
[01:03] <kvidell> ignore that
[01:03] <LeeJunFan> Orporg: some cards won't scan unless they are "up", and sometimes you have to try multiple times. Is this something you done with ndiswcrapper
[01:03] <anavim> hydroksyde: yes, and then some...
[01:04] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: i thought we had determined you had signal strength
[01:04] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> jason_  http://pastebin.com/446801
[01:04] <Orporg> I have signal strength through the two working machines.  Not through Linux.  I must have misspoke, I apologize
[01:04] <Techie_dude> what is the tar.gz command again...sorry
[01:04] <AnonyMouse-> well, when i try to install, it starts low memory mode. after it detects and scans the cd, it starts loading additional components. During this process, it tries to unpack something and dies. (It says Killed, then tries again, and dies again)
[01:04] <kvidell> s5
[01:04] <tim__> hihi
[01:04] <LeeJunFan> Techie_dude: tar xfvz [filename.tar.gz] 
[01:04] <tim__> Can someone help me out for a sec?
[01:05] <LeeJunFan> tim__: just ask.
[01:05] <Orporg> I don't even know what ndiswrapper is.  I assume it's a wireless networking code or something
[01:05] <existance> what is the apt pkg for XFree86?
[01:05] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: then yes, it is a configuration problem between the card and linux....can be solved with ndiswrapper if there is no native support
[01:05] <Techie_dude> okay what is the one for .deb files
[01:05] <tim__> ok well um, I have Hoary Hedgehog
[01:05] <_jason> gimmulF|GoAGNES, add "multiverse" to the end of lines 20,21,36,37
[01:05] <PokerFacePenguin> !ndiswrapper
[01:05] <ubotu> rumour has it, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[01:05] <tim__> and I want to upgrade to Breezy Badger
[01:05] <LeeJunFan> Orporg: yeah, it's for getting windows drivers installed for wireless.
[01:05] <tim__> :|
[01:05] <LeeJunFan> Techie_dude: dpkg -i [file.deb] 
[01:05] <Orporg> Shit.  But the Wiki said this card is supported right out of the box!  And Ubuntu detected all its parameters.  Even the manufactuer
[01:06] <b_e_n_z> tim__, change your repoitories to breezy, then apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:06] <Techie_dude> any others i should know about?
[01:06] <tim__> mmm how do I change them to breezy? :| i'm a linux newbie
[01:06] <_jason> ubotu, tell tim__ about breezy
[01:06] <LeeJunFan> Orporg: you said it said Mode: Auto? in iwconfig?
[01:06] <Orporg> Yes
[01:06] <rudiz> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:06] <LeeJunFan> Orporg: try 'sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode managed'
[01:07] <lightbright> hi
[01:07] <existance> I installed the nvidia driver set thing, but my resolution is still limited to 1024 x 768.  Did i forget to do something?
[01:07] <LeeJunFan> Orporg: then run iwconfig again and see if it's connected.
[01:07] <LeeJunFan> Orporg: also - are you using WEP?
[01:07] <lightbright> i ran clamscan and it said it find: HTML.Phishing.Bank-1 FOUND
[01:07] <lightbright> .   Does this infect my whole system now?
[01:07] <AnonyMouse-> hrm :S
[01:07] <lightbright> it was found in my evolution inbox
[01:07] <pozdiy> pozdiy: /usr/local/RealPlayer
[01:07] <LeeJunFan> lightbright: not linux.
[01:07] <oblib> Help? I'm trying to play dvd with mplayer. I get:    libdvdread: Could not open /dev/dvd with libdvdcss.
[01:07] <existance> I installed the nvidia driver set thing, but my resolution is still limited to 1024 x 768.  Did i forget to do something?
[01:08] <lightbright> LeeJunFan: what can i do?  clamscan --remove it?
[01:08] <Orporg> I'm not using WEP.  And I still have NO signal strength.
[01:08] <purplelint> tim__:  check out the instructions @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[01:08] <Techie_dude> oh...i go to play dvd's it says i don't have an encoder ...what do i nee dto install to get it to work
[01:08] <lightbright> oblib: is that allowed in your country?
[01:08] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> _jason:  ahh thanks
[01:08] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> worked
[01:08] <kvidell> s3
[01:08] <oblib> existance, do you know about xorg.conf?
[01:08] <_jason> gimmulF|GoAGNES, yw
[01:08] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> damn there was many many mplayer versions
[01:08] <Infernall> hey guys, i've installed breezy amd64 and x86 and when i get to my desktop for the first time with the default nv drivers, imm getting all kinds of problems, like no mouse cursor, screen isnt refreshing, etc
[01:08] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> im using an amd64 cpu but im running the 32 bit ubuntu breezy
[01:08] <oblib> lightbright, should be
[01:09] <AnonyMouse-> ideas anyone? just use a different os?
[01:09] <Orporg> !ndiswrapper
[01:09] <ubotu> from memory, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[01:09] <Infernall> i move the mouse for a second, cant see it though, and then hardlock
[01:09] <lightbright> oblib: where are you?
[01:09] <existance> oblib, i've heard of it, i don't know how to edit it thouhg
[01:10] <existance> where is xorg.conf generally?
[01:10] <oblib> existance, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf. In it there are lots of settings, towards the bottom are resolutoins
[01:10] <Infernall> ok, so hard locks with x86 and amd64 breezy at first boot to desktop, no cursor, screen isnt refreshing, and bam, hardlock.  any suggestions?
[01:10] <tim__> mm thanks
[01:11] <existance> oblib, thanks a bunch :)
[01:11] <SweetDreams> oh that's no fun, this nick is registered
[01:11] <oblib> existance, also ctrl+ and ctrl-
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> Infernall,  whats your video card/processor?
[01:11] <SweetDreams> :| ubuntu should have its own network
[01:11] <LeeJunFan> Orporg: you shouldn't have to use ndiswrapper if it's showing wlan0.
[01:11] <oblib> existance er is it ctrl+alt+'+' should change resolution
[01:11] <existance> oblib, nice
[01:11] <Orporg> I don't know what to do at this point then.
[01:11] <Infernall> Dr_Willis - obviously amd64, and PCI-X gforce6600
[01:11] <LeeJunFan> Orporg: does your laptop have a hotkey type thing like Fn F11 to turn the wirelss on/off?
[01:12] <Nolite> hi all
[01:12] <existance> oblib, hmm it doesn't ... ill try the xorg.conf thing though
[01:12] <Infernall> Dr_Willis but im sure non 64 users have tried the 64 version :)
[01:12] <LeeJunFan> Orporg: hehe, if it's even a laptop.
[01:12] <lightbright> whats the best and most powerful and popular email client used by Linux advanced users?  Thunderbird, Evolution or ?
[01:12] <Dr_Willis> Not a Turion cpu eh?
[01:12] <lightbright> LeeJunFan: what you use for email?
[01:12] <Infernall> nope, venice core athlon 64
[01:12] <Telep> hmm looks like my HD is dying... both Ubuntu and Windows took ages to start and my HD keeps making a funny buzzing noise :(
[01:12] <existance> oblib, uhh.. it only has up to 1024x768...
[01:12] <LeeJunFan> lightbright: kmail, I'm a kde user - kubuntu.
[01:12] <Nolite> I have a question, how do I log into as Sudo? I have checked the correct setting under my user priviliges but using the console I can't get the programs running hence It clains I haven't the root access
[01:13] <sethk> Telep, check the smart error counts
[01:13] <Telep> Ubuntu wouldn't even start just now, had to boot up from a Hoary liveCD
[01:13] <lightbright> LeeJunFan: is Thunderbird good?
[01:13] <Orporg> It's not a laptop
[01:13] <sethk> Telep, that isn't a good sign.  :)
[01:13] <Infernall> Dr_Willis after remove a few resolutions ffor the default 24 bit, my hardcrash started on X
[01:13] <anavim> lightbright: some consider evolution an enterprise email app
[01:13] <Tedd> dli, thanks
[01:13] <lightbright> Nolite: sudo -i
[01:13] <sethk> lightbright, it's ok, not perfect by any means
[01:13] <Tedd> it;'s fixed
[01:13] <earthen> ?
[01:13] <AnonyMouse-> install dies while trying to unpack md-modules. (low memory mode) anyone?
[01:13] <LeeJunFan> lightbright: I like it, but don't prefer it because kmail is better integrated with other things I do.
[01:13] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: signal HAS to be there before you get any ip
[01:13] <Dr_Willis> Infernall,  theres a few odd issues ive seen/heard of  with some of the newer amd cpu's -  also heard of a few pci-express issues.   but your proboems dont seem to be the same as the ones ive heard of.
[01:13] <existance> oblib, i know it can go higher because i got it to at least 1280 x 968 (or whatever) in windows
[01:13] <lightbright> anavim: do you use Evolution?
[01:13] <Infernall> Dr_Willis but before that i could move the mouse and see icons highlight, but no cursor.. i could click on the apps menu, then crash
[01:13] <dli> Tedd: nice
[01:13] <Orporg> At this point, I'm thinking of just throwing the mother....lover out the window and breaking some glass
[01:13] <anavim> lightbright: yes
[01:13] <Telep> sethk: how do I check that?
[01:13] <Nolite> lightbright, sudo -i ? followed by password?
[01:13] <sethk> Telep, do  man hdparm   it will tell you
[01:13] <Infernall> Dr_Willis any workaround?
[01:13] <lightbright> anavim: how do you empty your trash in Evolution?
[01:13] <nasimuto> what can i use to send mail in command line ?
[01:14] <lightbright> Nolite: indeed
[01:14] <Nolite> hm
[01:14] <lightbright> Nolite: be careful then
[01:14] <Nolite> and that password is the same as for my user?
[01:14] <lightbright> Nolite: indeed
[01:14] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> !apache
[01:14] <ubotu> apache is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP or, for Ubuntu server information, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/installation-custom
[01:14] <lightbright> Nolite: be careful then when loged in as root
[01:14] <oblib> existance, If you look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log it should list what it thinks you can do
[01:14] <Dr_Willis> Infernall,  hmm.. Id guess step 1 is to see if its an X/Video issue. or a deeper kernel/cpu/issue.
[01:14] <Nolite> what can actually happen whitout me trashing it?
[01:14] <dli> Orporg, my wifi just auto does ip, as far as the driver in kernel
[01:14] <lightbright> Nolite: you will need to reinstall Ubuntu
[01:14] <Telep> sethk: Is there a way to do that from within the liveCD environment or do I have to try to boot into linux on the HD?
[01:14] <PokerFacePenguin> LeeJunFan: i use my wifi in Kubuntu with kwifi manager and have to "activate" the config...whats the equiv in ubuntu...i run ubuntu in the other partition
[01:14] <Infernall> Dr_Willis Xorg's log shows nothing
[01:14] <Nolite> lightbright,  hm.. :p
[01:14] <lightbright> anavim: how do you empty your trash in Evolution?  I cant empty mine
[01:14] <sethk> Telep, I think it's on the live cd
[01:15] <Dr_Willis> Infernall,  try  not going to X and see if the system is working ok. Check your 'clock' see if the date/time sems to be passing by at too fast a speed. Thats a 'known' issue ive seen.
[01:15] <lightbright> Nolite: why do you want to log in as root?>
[01:15] <Infernall> Dr_Willis - if i use grubs recovery boot, will it just give me console?
[01:15] <anavim> lightbright: I can't either
[01:15] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> what mplayer version should i choose? im running 32bit ubuntu breezy 5.10 with amd64 cpu
[01:15] <LeeJunFan> PokerFacePenguin: I only know how to do it in /etc/network/interfaces
[01:15] <Nolite> but after I've done what I should don't I just "sudo passw -l root" ?
[01:15] <oblib> existance, what kind of monitor are you working with?
[01:15] <lightbright> anavim: so how do we empty it? :P
[01:15] <Nolite> to lock the root?
[01:15] <sethk> Telep, you can also use badblocks to test the drive.  It takes a long time to run, though.
[01:15] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> 386 or 686
[01:15] <feross> hey firefox crashes whenever I open up a page with flash.. any suggestions
[01:15] <Nolite> sorry for that, didnt come out very well
[01:15] <lightbright> Nolite: you trolling making up commands as you go?
[01:15] <Dr_Willis> Infernall,  yea - or append the 'single' option to the end of the grub boot line/kernel options
[01:15] <navarone> lightbright...in Evolution File/Empty Trash
[01:15] <Nolite> lightbright,  huh? o.O
[01:16] <Telep> sethk: ok thanks I'll try something... :)
[01:16] <Nolite> making up commands? :-/
[01:16] <meheren> is there a way to creat a custum icon for the panel trash in breezy?
[01:16] <Telep> bloody annoying though, just when I'm trying to finish my thesis :/
[01:16] <oblib> how do you concatanate commands onto one line? is it just a ; ?
[01:16] <PokerFacePenguin> LeeJunFan: it doesnt make sense that he has no signal yet has wlan0 showing up in the ifconfig
[01:16] <sethk> Telep, naturally.  :)
[01:16] <lightbright> navarone: hehehe that was easy :) ty
[01:16] <LeeJunFan> feross: 64bit amd64?
[01:16] <sethk> Telep, if you aren't backed up, BACK UP
[01:16] <existance> oblib, Crystalscan
[01:16] <feross> LeeJunFan: yeah forgot to mention that
[01:17] <navarone> lightbright...np...just taking out da trash
[01:17] <Infernall> Dr_Willis - found the fix.  two X options on the forums :)  apparently its amd64 processors with pci-x
[01:17] <feross> LeeJunFan: it's amd64
[01:17] <AnonyMouse-> :( oh well, on to freeBSD. bye
[01:17] <lightbright> Nolite: where on earth did you pull this command out of?  "sudo passw -l root"
[01:17] <existance> oblib, it came with a GateWay computer from long ago
[01:17] <LeeJunFan> PokerFacePenguin: if the device is configured to be up even w/o an address it will show there.
[01:17] <lightbright> navarone: hehe ;)
[01:17] <oblib> existance, what size? CRT or lcd?
[01:17] <Infernall> Dr_Willis thanks.
[01:17] <Telep> sethk: well anything really important is backed up, so I'm ok there :)
[01:17] <existance> oblib, CRT, like 17" ish
[01:17] <Nolite> lol thought I did read it some minutes ago on the wiki... something about locking the root
[01:17] <Nolite> :p
[01:17] <LeeJunFan> feross: that's because flashplayer plugin is segfaulting (as it doesn't work for 64bit), and it's taking firefox with it.
[01:17] <PokerFacePenguin> LeeJunFan: yes, but he would still have signal before he got ip with dhclient or set it static
[01:17] <lightbright> anavim: did you see what navarone said about trashcan?
[01:17] <oblib> existance, should probably be good with 1280x1024 then. Or 1280x960 if you want
[01:17] <anavim> lightbright: yes
[01:17] <lightbright> Nolite: never trust wiki :)
[01:17] <feross> LeeJunFan: DOH!!
[01:17] <Nolite> I did actually install Ubnutu tonight some hours ago and still have a thing or two to learn
[01:18] <existance> oblib, that's what im trying to get
[01:18] <Nolite> haha ok
[01:18] <existance> oblib, still scrolling through the log, pretty big file
[01:18] <Orporg> I guess I'm stuck then.  Wifi won't work for me under Ubuntu it seems.
[01:18] <lightbright> Nolite: A lot wrritten on Wikipedia is based on limited, incomplete and inaccurate data
[01:18] <LeeJunFan> feross: you need to install a chrooted ubuntu and run firefox from that if you really need flash.
[01:18] <xiaogil_> est-ce qu'il y'a un scanner rseau sous linux ?
[01:18] <Trashcan> lightbright: about *trashcan* or about 'the trashcan'?
[01:18] <navarone> lightbright> I find when deleting messsages in Evolution I would always press the red circle witrh the x to delete...then realize I had to press the button that looks more like an empty Guinness mug than a trashcan
[01:18] <lightbright> Trashcan: hehe , in Evolution ;)
[01:19] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: i wouldnt give up on it...load the ndiswrapper for your specific windows driver and see if it works....its not as hard as it seems
[01:19] <Trashcan> oh ok :)
[01:19] <LeeJunFan> feross: it's not that hard, I found this page to be easiest: http://www.nerdarium.com/archives/2005/03/13/new-64-bit-pc-ubuntu-32-bit-chroot-fun/
[01:19] <lightbright> navarone: :)
[01:19] <Nolite> how do I leave root status after Im done with it then?
[01:19] <existance> oblib,i found a list of resolutions that say (hsync out of range)
[01:19] <LeeJunFan> Nolite: exit
[01:19] <lightbright> Nolite: exit
[01:19] <Orporg> I don't have a clue how to do that.  And if it's buggy wouldn't that just crash Linux constantly?
[01:19] <feross> LeeJunFan: ok will check it out  thanks
[01:19] <Nolite> since everyone keep telling me it's so harmful
[01:19] <Nolite> ok
[01:19] <oblib> existance, the 'screen' section of my xorg.conf is posted at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5312
[01:19] <oblib> see if that helps
[01:19] <Nolite> I'm logged in now anyways, thanks to you lightbright  ;)
[01:19] <lightbright> Nolite: I dont think you should play around in root anyway :)
[01:19] <LeeJunFan> root doesn't kill systems, people kills systems.
[01:19] <Nolite> well
[01:19] <LeeJunFan> sudo is the safety.
[01:19] <_jason> LeeJunFan, lol
[01:19] <lightbright> LeeJunFan: true :)
[01:19] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: its only buggy in the fact that all features of your card might not be supported...wont be "crashing linux"
[01:19] <Nolite> I wanna install my graphics drivers
[01:20] <lightbright> Nolite: did you hear what LeeJunFan said?
[01:20] <Orporg> And I still have to get it to somehow cooperate with my sound card and my video card.
[01:20] <rambo3> i have no /dev/dsp , no sound . i found out that driver is snd_intel8x0 . i have tryed ubuntu forums no help there . alsamixer gives this : alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or and esd : ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:802:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave help
[01:20] <Nolite> since I cant get the screen refresh rate higher than 60Hz atm
[01:20] <LeeJunFan> Me, being a Glock guy don't like safeties :) sudo -s for me all the time :) bwahaha.
[01:20] <existance> oblib, mine is like that, except it doesnt have 1280x 960
[01:20] <Nolite> don't think so
[01:20] <existance> oblib, err 1024
[01:20] <oblib> existance, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5313 has the monitor section too
[01:20] <Nolite> you meant "exit"?
[01:20] <Nolite> ;o
[01:20] <nasimuto> How can i send e-mail from the command line ?
[01:20] <navarone> nice 77% or file and they stop my dl and refuse connection...grrr
[01:21] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: so you havent customized a bunch yet then i assume....if i were you i would use automatix to let it install common packages
[01:21] <oblib> existance if it's complainig about hsync, it would be a monitor section problem
[01:21] <mwe> Orporg: I used it for about a year without a crash caused by that
[01:21] <LeeJunFan> nasimuto: echo "message" | mail -s [subject]  [recipients] 
[01:21] <Nolite> lightbright,  what was it about?
[01:21] <nasimuto> LeeJunFan: thanks
[01:21] <Orporg> Automatix?
[01:21] <existance> oblib, i found the part where it says what it thinks are valid, and nothing higher than 1024 is there :(
[01:22] <PokerFacePenguin> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80295&highlight=automatix
[01:22] <existance> oblib, any there anyway i can force it to try?
[01:22] <LeeJunFan> nasimuto: or telnet [mailserver]  25 - ehlo [servername] , mail from: [your address] , rcpt to: [recipient addy] , data, Subject: [subject] , [enter]  message [ enter]  . [enter]  quit [enter]  :)
[01:22] <oblib> existance, not sure about that. What are your refresh rates?
[01:22] <existance> oblib, 75
[01:23] <Nolite> wierdest thing, don't seem to be able to change destination when logged in as root in the console o.O
[01:23] <nasimuto> LeeJunFan: mail = sendmail ?
[01:23] <Orporg> But don't I need Internet connectivity for this automatix thing?
[01:23] <existance> oblib, actually 75.1 if you want to be specfici
[01:23] <LeeJunFan> nasimuto: no, mail is part of the mailx package, you can also install mutt and use mutt to send mail from command line.
[01:23] <nasimuto> thx
[01:23] <mwe> I think you need to install mailx to get the /usr/bin/mail program
[01:23] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: its basically a shell script that installs .debs.............you can pick and choose the ones u want
[01:24] <oblib> existance that might be your prob right there
[01:24] <Orporg> But doesn't that all rely on me being able to download stuff?
[01:24] <Nolite> where should I put programs on my places? I downloaded WinRar and now has it in HomeFolder
[01:24] <Nolite> should it be placed in Bin or is it fine?
[01:24] <oblib> existance try HorizSync        30-65  VertRefresh        50-75
[01:24] <Telep> sethk: I've read through man hdparm but I don't really know what I should be looking for. Couldn't find a reference to smart error counts
[01:24] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: can copy it down with the internet you do have and sneakernet it over to the ubuntu machine
[01:25] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: its not large
[01:25] <xiaogil_> Is the an application to scan networks (with graphic interface) ?
[01:25] <Orporg> But won't it try to download 8 zillion things on to the Linux box?
[01:25] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: you can choose the customizations that you want with checkboxes
[01:25] <Orporg> Or does it just install stuff sitting on the hard drive already?
[01:25] <Nolite> lightbright Nolite: did you hear what LeeJunFan said? <-- what was that about?
[01:26] <sohappy2> ok, so i'm trying to install xfce on ubuntu, and i don't know what i'm doing.... any help? (be nice, i'm kind of a dumb girl and linux newbie...)
[01:26] <existance> oblib, where am i putting this?
[01:26] <PokerFacePenguin> hmm....u dont have ANY network card for this machine to get it dl?
[01:26] <purplelint> xiaogil_:  try etherape or ethereal.
[01:26] <kenichi> hi there
[01:26] <sethk> Telep, sorry, my mistake, look at smartctl
[01:26] <oblib> existance in the monitor section of your xorg.conf
[01:27] <oblib> existance find lines similar to          VertRefresh        50-75
[01:27] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: the script does use network
[01:27] <Telep> sethk: doesn't seem to exist on the livecd
[01:27] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> what mplayer version should i choose? im running 32bit ubuntu breezy 5.10 with amd64 cpu.. 386 or 685?
[01:27] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> 686..
[01:27] <Orporg> Then if I don't have networking then what good will it do me?
[01:27] <existance> oblib, they don't seem to be there...
[01:27] <LeeJunFan> sohappy2: should be able to install xfce with synaptic, or from cmd line 'sudo apt-get install xfce'
[01:28] <existance> oblib, they arent there where they are in yours
[01:28] <sethk> Telep, too bad.  You might want to download another bootable cd that has it.
[01:28] <oblib> existance can you paste your whole xorg.conf to the pastebin?
[01:28] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: was thinking it would probably help you solve your other sound/vid problems too....spoke before i thought about you not having ANY inet access other than wifi on that machine
[01:28] <existance> yea, sec
[01:28] <cyphase> how do you get flash sound to work in breezy?
[01:28] <LeeJunFan> sohappy2: hrm, maybe not. I guess it's not available ....
[01:28] <kenichi> im quiet new to ubuntu and linux. ive got a new motherboard (asus a7n8x-e deluxe) and want to install on a sata raid 1. is it possible?
[01:28] <cyphase> i had it working in hoary..
[01:28] <Orporg> So I'll need to take care of the networking before the other stuff?
[01:28] <cyphase> but i don't know how i did it
[01:28] <existance> oblib, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5314
[01:29] <PokerFacePenguin> use the long network card running to the ap...you said it was 3 feet away
[01:29] <Nolite> anyone who could help me: how do I change directory in the console when logged in as root?
[01:29] <kenichi> perhaps someone knows a good tutorial for it...
[01:29] <shriver> Nolite: cd
[01:29] <LeeJunFan> sohappy2: sudo apt-get install xfce4
[01:29] <Nolite> hm
[01:29] <sohappy2> Lee: I tried sudo apt-get install xfce4, and it's working
[01:29] <PokerFacePenguin> card=cord
[01:29] <cyphase> Nolite, cd directory_name
[01:29] <PokerFacePenguin> cable
[01:29] <Nolite> I try cd Desktop
[01:29] <sohappy2> thanks, lee.
[01:29] <existance> oblib, oh wait a second
[01:29] <oblib> existance yeah, they are not there. Just put them in
[01:29] <Nolite> "no such file or directory"
[01:29] <Nolite> :p
[01:29] <oblib> existance where did you get the 75.1 from?
[01:29] <cyphase> Nolite, maybe it doesn't exist :)
[01:29] <Orporg> It is.  But I have no wired Ethernet cards installed.  Just the Wifi one.  So it's either WIfi or nothing
[01:30] <shriver> Nolite try cd /home/<username>/Desktop
[01:30] <Nolite> haha
[01:30] <cyphase> Nolite, really
[01:30] <kenichi> Nolite: try ls
[01:30] <cyphase> i'm serious
[01:30] <cyphase> yea
[01:30] <Nolite> kk
[01:30] <Nolite> thnx, gonna try
[01:30] <cyphase> i was just about to say that :)
[01:30] <kenichi> Nolite: and the see what is listet
[01:30] <Orporg> I DO have some extra wired Ethernet cards but I'm reluctant to install them, let the excrement hit the air conditoning
[01:30] <existance> oblib, i have two monitors hooked up, one to an AGP card (ATI), and the other to a PCI card (nvidia), and the monitor identifier is Dell, which is the AGP monitor
[01:30] <cyphase> How do you get Flash sound to work in Breezy?
[01:30] <Nolite> with just ls = dbootstrap_settings
[01:30] <existance> oblib, i got the 75.1 Hz from the /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:31] <Nolite> kenichi, with just "ls" as root = dbootstrap_settings
[01:31] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: just remember this....u wont get an ip without signal to the ap...after u get signal....u should be fine
[01:31] <Nolite> what the heck does that mean? o.O
[01:31] <oblib> existance the "screen" section defines that. If you look, it says device "NVIDIA ..." and Montior "DELL ..."
[01:31] <kenichi> Nolite: i dont know
[01:31] <shriver> Nolite: what does pwd return?
[01:31] <existance> oblib, that doesnt make sense, that's the wrong monitor for the PCI card..
[01:31] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: since the ap serves other machines correctly
[01:31] <oblib> existance I'm not sure how you set up two screens with two cards though, never done that
[01:31] <kenichi> never had a message like that ;)
[01:32] <relbs_> Can anyone point me to a guide on configuring x.org to support multiple monitor configurations and easily switching between them?  (e.g. laptop display only, laptop display + external monitor and xinerama, external only)
[01:32] <Nolite> shriver, huh? what do You mean?
[01:32] <existance> oblib, yea, im just trying to get one working right now :)
[01:32] <oblib> existance I doesn't really matter what it's called.
[01:32] <existance> oblib, ah..
[01:32] <Nolite> I'm not entering my psw, just entering "sudo -i" to login as root shriver
[01:32] <existance> oblib, ill add those lines then
[01:32] <oblib> existance sorry, it not I
[01:32] <anavim> Nolite: type pwd, hit return
[01:32] <Orporg> The access point does serve other machines.  But if I get desperate I could install a wired Ethernet card, yank the cable from the access point and stick it into the Linux box.  But eventually I will *have* to get wireless working
[01:32] <oblib> existance I'm guessing you gave it that name on install or something
[01:32] <kenichi> Nolite: try to login in as root with "sudo su -"
[01:33] <kenichi> that works for me
[01:33] <oblib> existance is your other card and monitor doing anything right now?
[01:33] <xiaogil_> Is the an application to scan networks (with graphic interface), and that can say which ports are openned, which are not ?
[01:33] <existance> oblib, no, actually it boots on the AGP monitor and then switches to the PCI once ubuntu loads
[01:33] <b_e_n_z> xiaogil_, xnmap
[01:33] <robotgeek> kenichi: why doesn't 'sudo -i' not work? what error do you get?
[01:33] <Nolite> kenichi, worked to log in with atleast
[01:33] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: it is all about how bad you want it....and the link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80295&highlight=automatix will customize you as much or as little as you want
[01:34] <kenichi> robotgeek: does work too
[01:34] <yassine> hello
[01:34] <existance> oblib, restarted Xserver
[01:34] <Orporg> But I'll need this ndiswrapper thing to get the Wifi working, yes?
[01:34] <yassine> How to install an rpm package?
[01:34] <robotgeek> kenichi: hmm, okay
[01:34] <oblib> existance can you post your Xorg.0.log too?
[01:34] <existance> oblib, thats odd
[01:34] <Nolite> shriver, when htitting "pwd" it returns "/root"
[01:34] <existance> oblib, it added a couple of resolutions, but they are like 832 by whatever
[01:34] <robotgeek> yassine: you can convert rpm to deb usin alien,
[01:35] <existance> oblib, sec on the pastebin
[01:35] <kenichi> robotgeek:  its just that my brother told me to login as root with sudo su -
[01:35] <oblib> existance, weird
[01:35] <robotgeek> yassine: tho, you might not need to do that. most packages are in ubuntu repositories
[01:35] <lightbright> anavim: how can I get Evolution to check for email virus when receiving and sending emails?
[01:35] <robotgeek> kenichi: hmm, okay
[01:35] <existance> sudo gedit /var/log/Xorg.0.log &
[01:35] <lightbright> navarone: any ideas how I can I get Evolution to check for email virus when receiving and sending emails?
[01:35] <kenichi> robotgeek:  and because he ist the pro and im the newbee, i trusted him ;)
[01:35] <existance> oops lol..
[01:36] <navarone> lightbright...no idea
[01:36] <existance> oblib, http://pastebin.com/446838
[01:36] <kenichi> is anyone used with installing ubuntu on a sata raid 1?
[01:36] <yassine> okay, I explain, I am using Ubuntu as an vmware and I want to install the vmware tools
[01:36] <yassine> wich are rpm format
[01:36] <PokerFacePenguin> if you get ndiswrapper and get it working then your problems are solved...if you install the wired card, customize with automatix, other problems will most likely be solved as well....then you can make it easier to troubleshoot because automatix will install ndisgtk graphical config tool
[01:36] <anavim> lightbright: I think you would need to buy some virus software
[01:37] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: as long as you mark the checkbox
[01:37] <robotgeek> lightbright: clam antivirus
[01:37] <anavim> lightbright: ^^
[01:37] <Orporg> So you reccomend I try to get it going with the wired card just to get some downloads and THEN try to get the wireless working?
[01:37] <djk_> is there a azureus.deb for ubuntu somewhere?
[01:37] <existance> oblib, woah... it's reading the PCI card as AGP.....
[01:37] <agtnz> Can someone help me try to connect to a share on an XP machine on my network? The share is \\METAROYCE\Shared. I can share my file with the XP machine but cannot access his shares.
[01:37] <yassine> help please
[01:38] <shriver> djk_, you can get azureus from the multiverse repositories, I think
[01:38] <robotgeek> yassine: what package are you trying to install?
[01:38] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: it might make this process easier on you.
[01:38] <djk_> shriver: not for breezy.
[01:38] <gleesond> does any one know about a good virus protection program for ubuntu?
[01:38] <cyphase> How do you get Flash sound to work in Breezy?
[01:38] <PokerFacePenguin> gleesond: clamav
[01:38] <yassine> robotgeek: Vmware tools
[01:38] <b_e_n_z> gleesond, clamav
[01:38] <robotgeek> gleesond: you don't really need one
[01:38] <djk_> shriver: they were in the hoary ones though afaik
[01:38] <kenichi> someone here who is familiar with installing ubuntu on sata raid 1?
[01:38] <cyphase> gleesound, clamav, but you don't need one for ubuntu..
[01:38] <existance> gleesond: pull out the network cord ;)
[01:38] <lightbright> robotgeek: yes but theres no optiuon to use clam with evolution that I can see. can you?
[01:38] <oblib> existance, where do you get that from?
[01:38] <Orporg> Will Ubuntu automatically detect and configure a wired card if I plug one in?
[01:38] <existance> oblib,  (**) |   |-->Device "NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000 AGP 8x] "
[01:39] <cyphase> now, if you want to scan things that come to you that might infect a *windows* machine
[01:39] <b_e_n_z> Orporg, yes
[01:39] <xiaogil_> Is the an application to scan networks (with graphic interface), and that can say which ports are openned, which are not, and that can scan a range of address (not only one like nmapfe) ?
[01:39] <existance> oblib, it's in the first few lines in the lopg
[01:39] <anavim> lightbright: save the attachments and scan...
[01:39] <existance> oblib, log
[01:39] <robotgeek> yassine: hmm, no clue. never used vmware. sorry. install 'alien' to convert rpm to .deb
[01:39] <PokerFacePenguin> gleesond: but you might do your windows friends a favor and not pass on windows virii to them by installing a virus scanner
[01:39] <Orporg> I don't have to do anything with it?  It'll just detect it on boot?  Or do I have to do some fiddling?
[01:39] <anavim> lightbright: or vice versa
[01:39] <agtnz> yassine: vmware tools are an iso, I thought. Are you using the free vmware player, or..?
[01:40] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: most likely will detect your card
[01:40] <oblib> existance, that is the device name you have in the xorg.conf
[01:40] <b_e_n_z> xiaogil_, nessus
[01:40] <oblib> existance, are you sure that the nvidia is in the AGP slot. Can you look at your device manager in Ubuntu and see what slots each card is in?
[01:40] <Orporg> If it doesn't may I come back and bother you some more?
[01:41] <agtnz> yassine: I got Windows 2000 working under vmware player by following this guide >> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=84275 Its got instructions on vmware tools
[01:41] <yassine> agtnz: Vmware tools are iso, but Vmware Workstation mounts the iso image as cd
[01:41] <existance> oblib, im sure the nvidia is in the PCI slot, that's all it fits in
[01:41] <existance> oblib, it says bus Type: PCI under the supposed "AGP" card
[01:42] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: u certainly can...i am gonna go eat a bite of something...just say my name in the channel
[01:42] <yassine> agtnz: I am doing the opposite, running Ubuntu under windows xp
[01:42] <gleesond> does that mean that there is no real threat of virus' for ubuntu, most of them are directed at windows? do I have to worry about other remote attacks, if so would it be good to instal a software firewall such as firestarter
[01:42] <PokerFacePenguin> Orporg: and there are many competent folks here to help u too
[01:42] <agtnz> yassine: D'oh
[01:42] <agtnz> :)
[01:42] <oblib> existance if you can find the slot locations you can mess with the BusID                "PCI:0:10:0" lines
[01:42] <Nolite> anavim, hitting "pwd" shows me im in "/root"
[01:42] <PokerFacePenguin> gleesond: yes on the firewall, install it....defintely
[01:42] <anavim> Nolite: yes, I saw you say that earlier.. I was elucidating
[01:43] <Orporg> Thank you all very much.  You are greatly appreciated.  I'll see if I can get this turd burgler to cooperate with me
[01:43] <existance> oblib, uhh where is that? this is getting a bit over my head :/
[01:43] <Nolite> sorry :p
[01:43] <oblib> existance to get both working, you will need two "Device"s, one on your PCI and one on your AGP, but you need the middle numbers
[01:43] <Taa5i> When booting off an Ubuntu install disc, It gets to probing pci devices (bus 00) and hangs.  The same occurs with a Gentoo install disc.  The machine is an HP NetServer LXr Pro 8.  Any thoughts please?
[01:43] <oblib> existance I think device manager can tell you that
[01:43] <anavim> Nolite: no problem  :)
[01:43] <PokerFacePenguin> gleesond: as a matter of fact, i wouldnt be on the internet any longer than i had to be without a firewall
[01:43] <existance> oblib, under advanced?
[01:44] <agtnz> yassine: If vmware tools are an rpm file then running 'sudo alien <rpm's name>' would convert it to a .deb, then a 'dpkg -i <deb's name> would install it. You may have to run 'sudo apt-get install alien' first.
[01:44] <gleesond> oh ok, so I better do it soon
[01:44] <LeeJunFan> PokerFacePenguin: firewalls are overrated, updates are the important thing :)
[01:44] <xiaogil_> Is there an equivalent of SuperScan on Ubuntu ?
[01:44] <oblib> existance, device manager? It's in the system-> admin I think
[01:44] <anavim> gleesond: chkroot is a good tool too
[01:44] <cafuego> Actually, if you run a desktop Linux, you don't need a firewall. it doens't open ports at random.
[01:44] <existance> oblib, does /sys/devoces/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0/etc... sound right?
[01:44] <PokerFacePenguin> gleesond: once you install  one, also install an intrusion detection system like snort
[01:44] <Nolite> anavim, I'm just kinda overwhlemed atm, since I just installed Ubuntu (from Windoze) and now I cannot even install drivers to the PC o.O
[01:44] <oblib> existance I'm not actually in my Ubuntu right now
[01:44] <_tcc> Um
[01:44] <existance> oblib, i meant advanced in the device manager, ah
[01:44] <anavim> Nolite: good luck... you'll get the hang of it  :)
[01:44] <existance> oblib, and make that /sys/devices :)
[01:45] <Nolite> haha
[01:45] <Nolite> I guess!
[01:45] <_tcc> Did I mess up the install or is there a default root password.......
[01:45] <gleesond> ok
[01:45] <Nolite> I think I learned some today
[01:45] <_tcc> I need help
[01:45] <erUSUL> !tell _tcc about root
[01:45] <Nolite> anyone know good Ubuntu documentation apart from that Wiki on ubuntu.com?
[01:45] <Nolite> with console commands etc
[01:45] <existance> oblib, linux.sysfs_path or linux.sysfs_path_device sound right?
[01:46] <anavim> gleesond: oops, I meant rootkithunter
[01:46] <_tcc> Nolite?
[01:46] <_tcc> What
[01:46] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell Nolite about cli
[01:46] <Nolite> well
[01:47] <_tcc> I am not new to linux but how do Iogin root
[01:47] <oblib> existance oh. Um, you're getting out of my skills now. I did all this a while ago, but I forget the details. If you look at my xorg.conf, you can see how the two devices are set up.
[01:47] <_tcc> wtf
[01:47] <Nolite> cli?
[01:47] <kenichi> someone familiar with installing ubuntu on sata raid 1?
[01:47] <_tcc> yes
[01:47] <oblib> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5315
[01:47] <anavim> !cli
[01:47] <ubotu> cli is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/, or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[01:47] <maddler> folks... anyone using Kopete behind a proxy?
[01:47] <_tcc> oh my god
[01:47] <_tcc> no
[01:47] <_tcc> I have used linux before.
[01:47] <anavim> cli = "command-line" , terminal, etc.
[01:47] <_tcc> su
[01:47] <maddler> (no... /me is not a bot) ;)
[01:47] <_tcc> sudo
[01:47] <_tcc> etv
[01:47] <_tcc> etc
[01:47] <_tcc> Is there a default root pass?
[01:47] <robotgeek> _tcc: please stop using Enter as punctuation
[01:47] <cafuego> _tcc: root is disabled.
[01:48] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell _tcc about root
[01:48] <_tcc> m
[01:48] <cafuego> _tcc: use 'sudo -i' for a root shell.
[01:48] <_tcc> ho
[01:48] <existance> oblib, would it be under the Device section?
[01:48] <_tcc> oh
[01:48] <_tcc> thats strange
[01:48] <cafuego> no, that's sane.
[01:48] <_tcc> I don't like that I need to change it.
[01:48] <cafuego> You DON"T need to change it.
[01:49] <cafuego> if you think you do, you think wrong.
[01:49] <lightbright> _tcc: why do you want to be in root?
[01:49] <lord_drachenblut> hey all
[01:49] <existance> oblib, i found the BusID thing you were talking about "PCI:0:10:0", but there isn't one for the AGP ATI one
[01:49] <_tcc> Um
[01:49] <cafuego> existance: Unless you have multiple cards, you can leave the busid blank.
[01:49] <_tcc> SO I can admin my system?
[01:50] <existance> cafuego: i have two cards :/
[01:50] <_tcc> I still dont have root
[01:50] <moogman> Hello! Flash (specifically) is using /dev/dsp, whereas I want it to use my other sound card, currently located at /dev/dsp. Do you know how I can swap them?
[01:50] <_tcc> What is the PASSWORD?
[01:50] <lightbright> _tcc: what kind of admin work do you want to do?
[01:50] <existance> cafuego: the PCI one is nvidia and the AGP is ATI
[01:50] <cafuego> _tcc: You can do that via 1) the tools in Gnome, which use sudo or 2) Via the command line, which ues sudo.
[01:50] <_tcc> get myself online :)
[01:50] <cafuego> existance: Ah ok.
[01:50] <lightbright> _tcc: you using a modem?
[01:50] <_tcc> no
[01:50] <existance> cafuego: although it doesn't seem to be recognizing the ATI one very well..
[01:50] <lord_drachenblut> anyone know how to get a usb headset up and running
[01:50] <_tcc> haha
[01:50] <_tcc> no...
[01:50] <lightbright> Dr_Willis: lol ;)
[01:51] <lightbright> _tcc: you are online now through another system
[01:51] <kenichi> by the way, whats the difference between "su" and "sudo -i"?
[01:51] <lightbright> kenichi: whats su?  i only know of sudo
[01:51] <_tcc> oh god
[01:51] <lightbright> kenichi: ah su = super user
[01:51] <anavim> lightbright: switch user
[01:51] <_tcc> I need the PASSWORD
[01:51] <_tcc> the default?
[01:51] <cafuego> _tcc: THERE IS NOT ONE.
[01:51] <_tcc> Is there one?
[01:51] <anavim> not super user
[01:51] <lightbright> _tcc: you already have it
[01:52] <robotgeek> _tcc: read the link ubotu gave you
[01:52] <kenichi> ich dachte su = substitute user
[01:52] <cafuego> _tcc: When prompted for one, enter your USER password.
[01:52] <kenichi> i thought su = substitute user
[01:52] <_tcc> thank you...........
[01:52] <_tcc> whew
[01:52] <cafuego> _tcc: I thought you said you were familiar with sudo...
[01:52] <anavim> kenichi: both are antonyms
[01:52] <lightbright> anavim: no, su in Debian is super user!  in Debian Sarge, when you open shell and type su, thats super user mode
[01:53] <cafuego> lightbright: 'su <otheruser>' isn't superuser mode ;-)
[01:53] <anavim> lightbright: from the manpage: su - Change user ID or become super-user
[01:53] <Kendrick_> hay light i thought it was su kendrick   and if no user was specified it is assumed you wanted root
[01:53] <Nolite> yaya
[01:53] <Nolite> *yay
[01:53] <lightbright> anavim: exactly :) notice where it says: or become super-user :)
[01:53] <Vespoli> o.0
[01:53] <existance> oblib, i found an article that i think will help :)
[01:53] <kenichi> but when i change the password when in "su" mode, it is only used for "su" but not for "sudo"
[01:53] <Nolite> managed to switch directories in Root :
[01:53] <Nolite> :)
[01:53] <lightbright> anavim: i rest my case :)
[01:53] <oblib> existance good luck. Sorry I couldn't be more so
[01:53] <_tcc> what the fuck
[01:53] <Vespoli> how can I completely reconfigure X ?
[01:54] <_tcc> I just set a new UNIX password
[01:54] <Taa5i> When booting Ubuntu installer cd, the post hangs at Probing PCI Hardware (Bus 00).  The machine is an HP NetServer LXr Pro 8.  Any ideas please?
[01:54] <robotgeek> _tcc: please mind your language
[01:54] <Vespoli> as in, totally remove the ATI drivers that destroyed it
[01:54] <_tcc> and I cant do anything still
[01:54] <lightbright> cafuego: from the manpage: su - Change user ID or become super-user!  please notice where it says: or become super-user
[01:54] <kbrooks> kenichi, change YOUR pass'
[01:54] <_tcc> what is wrong with this
[01:54] <anavim> lightbright: no more help for u  :P
[01:54] <Vespoli> how can I completely reconfigure X ?
[01:54] <kbrooks> _tcc: su != sudo
[01:54] <seth_k|lappy> Vespoli, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:54] <robotgeek> _tcc: did you enable root?
[01:54] <Vespoli> thanks a LOT :D!
[01:54] <lightbright> anavim: thats ok!  I have many here experncied that help me !  I will surrive without your help :)
[01:55] <kbrooks> _tcc: you might have changed YOUR password on your USER ACCOUNT
[01:55] <kbrooks> _tcc: thats wrong
[01:55] <kenichi> kbrooks: thats a possibility, but why can't i change the password for root?
[01:55] <Nolite> is drivers ending with .run intended to be stored somewhere specifically? It told me it didnt find "ls"
[01:55] <kbrooks> _tcc: you have to change root's password
[01:55] <existance> oblib, nah, np you know way more about it than I do heh :)
[01:55] <kbrooks> kenichi, you can
[01:55] <Nolite> when I tried to run the application as root
[01:55] <lightbright> anavim: if you dropped the planet , the world would still move forward and I would survive without your help :)  so thats ok, you are free to stop giving help :)  doesnt bother me :)
[01:55] <kbrooks> kenichi, define cant
[01:56] <_tcc> I did change roots pass
[01:56] <kenichi> kbrooks: when i change the password in sudo mode, it is not changed
[01:56] <_tcc> on the command line
[01:56] <_tcc> passw
[01:56] <_tcc> passwd
[01:56] <kbrooks> _tcc: use sudo passwd
[01:57] <kbrooks> not just passwd
[01:57] <kenichi> when i change it in su mode it is changed. but not for sudo only for su
[01:57] <lord_drachenblut> ....
[01:57] <_tcc> and then i try to do something graphically and it wont work
[01:57] <kumakun> Real qucik question, anyone seeing problems with the pressed CDs saying it can't find a usable kernal image during install?
[01:57] <kbrooks> kenichi, thats by design
[01:57] <LeeJunFan> sudo passwd root
[01:57] <Taa5i> sudo defaults to use /your/ password to verify, not root's
[01:57] <kenichi> thats a bad design i think ;)
[01:57] <kenichi> why is it like this
[01:57] <kbrooks> kenichi, it's notc su mode
[01:57] <kbrooks> its root
[01:57] <LeeJunFan> kenichi: so people do muck up the root account.
[01:57] <LeeJunFan> don't
[01:57] <erUSUL> !tell kenichi about root
[01:58] <_tcc> This STILL will not run.
[01:58] <LeeJunFan> kenichi: type 'rm -rf /' as a user then type 'rm -rf /' as root, you'll see why  :)  <<< WARNING: don't really do this>>>>
[01:58] <kenichi> i think it would be a lot easier if asked for a root password while installing ubuntu
[01:58] <_tcc> cannot run network-admin as root wrong password
[01:58] <_tcc> no shit.
[01:59] <anavim> kenichi: tell that to apple, they do the same thing with os x
[01:59] <_tcc> Why is this such a hassle?
[01:59] <Taa5i> kenichi: I believe you can select to do so during the install.
[01:59] <kenichi> really?
[01:59] <kenichi> how?
[01:59] <Vespoli> :P
[01:59] <LeeJunFan> kenichi: if you install server install it sets root passwd, not for desktop use by default.
[01:59] <Vespoli> nice nick
[01:59] <Nolite> "Error: unable to find the system utility 'ld' ; please make sure you have the package 'binutils' installed. Id you do have 'binutils' installed, then please check that 'ld' is in your path"
[01:59] <Taa5i> kenichi: Should be an option to enable root account and then can change pwd for it or the like.
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> setting a root password takes all of 3 sec. For those that know what they are doing.
[01:59] <BigKahuna> Does anybody have a TV tuner card working with breezy? I'm not looking to set up MythTV but would like to be able to watch TV with my TV tuner card. I have a hauppauge PVR150 which apparently is not compatible with TvTime.  Any suggestions as to what else I can use?
[01:59] <Nolite> woops... bold :p
[02:00] <Taa5i> But in general there is no reason to use root, with a proper sudo setup.
[02:00] <kenichi> Taa5i: yeah, would be nice
[02:00] <anavim> kenichi: root account is off by default on os x
[02:00] <LeeJunFan> Dr_Willis: right, and those that don't have no good reason.
[02:00] <Nolite> anyone know what might be wrong? I have the actual file on the desktop
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> BigKahuna,  isent xawtv a alternative
[02:01] <Dr_Willis> LeeJunFan,  and those that do know how. :P have learned bad habbits and need to relearn.
[02:01] <Taa5i> kenichi: If you want total neurotic control of your system by default, use Gentoo ;)
[02:01] <_jason> Nolite, do you have binutils installed?
[02:01] <anavim> kenichi: being smart enough to turn off root on ubuntu is one of the reasons I use it
[02:01] <johnsie2k> If I install xubuntu-desktop can I uninstall it later?
[02:01] <LeeJunFan> Dr_Willis: true. But running wine apps that need raw network output need root, and doing that with sudo can be a pita.
[02:02] <LeeJunFan> although about as much as su also.
[02:02] <Nolite> _jason,  if it wasn't installed by default when I installed Ubuntu 5.10; no! :)
[02:02] <Dr_Willis> LeeJunFan,  id never seen a wine app that needed that to be honest.
[02:02] <Dr_Willis> :P
[02:02] <poningru> !wireless
[02:02] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[02:02] <augustin> hello
[02:02] <kenichi> i dont want total control
[02:02] <anavim> LeeJunFan: sudo -i   then...
[02:02] <augustin> i have a messy repartitioning to do, anyone care to lend a hand ?
[02:02] <kenichi> just thought that it is kind of weird
[02:02] <johnsie2k> If I install xubuntu-desktop can I uninstall it later?
[02:02] <_jason> Nolite, check what "apt-cache policy binutils" returns
[02:02] <LeeJunFan> Dr_Willis: I have some network stuff that sends broadcasts it can't do unless it's root. sudo -i is what I use along with xhost +local:
[02:02] <kumakun> Not so much then, on the install problem, hm?
[02:02] <Ep|phany> does anyone know any anoymity programs for ips in ubuntu or knwo a program that automatically hides your ip or a program that automatically finds and impleys proxys?
[02:02] <hydroksyde> Ok, I'm going to try ubuntu for the first time, in qemu on my slackware box
[02:02] <augustin> must move the ubuntu partition from extended to primary, redistribute space, all that without breaking the dual install o.O
[02:03] <erUSUL> Ep|phany, tor
[02:03] <_tcc> How do I set the goddamn root pass.
[02:03] <_tcc> Thats all I want.
[02:03] <Ep|phany> yea i use tor for my windows pc
[02:03] <LeeJunFan> _tcc: sudo passwd root
[02:03] <anavim> _tcc: sudo -i  - you'll do fine
[02:03] <hydroksyde> _tcc: does sudo passwd word?
[02:03] <Ep|phany> erUSL is there a tor for ubuntu?
[02:03] <_tcc> That does nothing.
[02:03] <kenichi> erUSUL: i really like ubuntu. its just that i didnt understand it. so i asked the pros ;)
[02:03] <_tcc> The password is set
[02:03] <_tcc> I can login on the CLI
[02:03] <Nolite> installed: none
[02:03] <opnsrc> I installed Ident2 and when I type Ident2 it says error: binding to port 113: bind(): Permission denied
[02:03] <_tcc> but when I try a GUI app
[02:03] <erUSUL> !root
[02:03] <ubotu> from memory, root is rumour has it, that root is disabled in Ubuntu, actually this means there is no password set for the root account, use sudo when you need admin access, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[02:03] <_tcc> it fucks up
[02:03] <linkd> opnsrc: has to be done under root
[02:03] <Nolite> _jason, sorry.. it returned "installed: none"
[02:03] <robotgeek> _tcc: you must use your user password in gui tools
[02:03] <snausages> i downloaded skype from skype.com (the debian package) and i can't remember what the command is to install it. i remember it's something like sudo dpkg - can anyone help out?
[02:04] <opnsrc> oh so sudo
[02:04] <opnsrc> K thanks
[02:04] <_jason> Nolite, sudo apt-get install binutils
[02:04] <LeeJunFan> _tcc: that's because X by default will not allow just any user on the system to toss stuff up on your desktop, as your X logged in user type xhost +local:
[02:04] <anavim> snausages: it's a .deb?
[02:04] <robotgeek> _tcc: if you had read the link which ubotu told you, you would have found that out
[02:04] <snausages> anavim: yes it is
[02:04] <anavim> snausages: dpkg -i
[02:04] <erUSUL> Nolite, install build-essential
[02:04] <snausages> anavim: thanks
[02:04] <simpo> snausages-> sudo dpkq =i
[02:04] <LeeJunFan> _tcc: you also have to set your DISPLAY variable.
[02:04] <moogman> Hello! Flash (specifically) is using /dev/dsp, whereas I want it to use my other sound card, currently located at /dev/dsp1. There is no flash config that I know of. Do you know how I can swap the devices around?
[02:04] <opnsrc> is there a ctrl + alt + del manager I can download?
[02:04] <Nolite> _jason, o.O dunno how mate :) but now its seems installed
[02:04] <simpo> snausages-> sudo dpkq -i ;)
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> _tcc,  or check out the 'sux' package. :P
[02:05] <anavim> opnsrc: top
[02:05] <Nolite> _jason, that was pure magic imo ;)
[02:05] <_jason> Nolite, if you are compiling and such you want to do what erUSUL said: install build-essential
[02:05] <hlen> moogman, ln -s /dev/dsp1 /dev/dsp is the hackish way. i'd find the right one.
[02:05] <Nolite> _jason, I'm only trying to install my graphics drivers atm
[02:06] <opnsrc> K thanks
[02:06] <opnsrc> the ident works
[02:06] <_tcc> ok....so any user can mod the settings with thier own password
[02:06] <_tcc> that makes a hell alot a sense
[02:06] <_tcc> so
[02:06] <LeeJunFan> _tcc: no, you have to be in group admin
[02:06] <_tcc> how do I require it to be root?
[02:06] <_jason> Nolite, what kind?
[02:06] <snausages> hm, this .deb doesn't seem to be working. i'm missing something. it tells me "libqt3c102-mt" is not installed
[02:06] <Ep|phany> how do i use tor?
[02:06] <Nolite> _jason, NVIDIA
[02:06] <moogman> hlen: Hmm, thing is, /dev/dsp points to my secondary sound card and /dev/dsp1 points to my primary. If I do that, I lose my secondary (but that's not an immediate problem). The "correct" solution would be great though if you do know where it is :)
[02:07] <erUSUL> _tcc, not any user only the ones that have rights to do so (by belonging to admin group orbeeing in thesudoers file)
[02:07] <_tcc> I don't see the logic behind that.
[02:07] <Nolite> _jason, since I can only have my screen refresh rate @ 60Hz atm, I hope new drivers will help that
[02:07] <hlen> moogman, i don't. if you find it, please let me know
[02:07] <erUSUL> !tell _tcc about root
[02:07] <_jason> Nolite, have you been referred to the wiki?
[02:07] <erUSUL> _tcc, read the link ubotu send you
[02:08] <moogman> hlen: Sure. Thanks for the information so far. I will be back :)
[02:08] <Nolite> _jason, about installing drivers, no
[02:08] <Nolite> _jason, why?
[02:08] <_jason> ubotu, tell Nolite about nvidia
[02:08] <johnsie2k> How do you remove a desktop?
[02:08] <erUSUL> _tcc, you will read the logic of the ubuntu dev-team for choosing sudo
[02:08] <_jason> Nolite, you should try those directions there, they worked well for me
[02:09] <Dr_Willis> and theres No argueing with the Dev-Team! :P
[02:09] <LeeJunFan> _tcc: another thing to consider is that when someone tries to hack your system over a network what account do you think they'll try? root... And if root can't login directly - no worries.
[02:09] <_tcc> true
[02:09] <Nolite> _jason, um... so I won't need those drivers I downloaded?
[02:09] <_tcc> wow, ubuntu kicks ass
[02:09] <oblib> has anyone here ever used the free format advocated on the wiki; Ogg Theora?
[02:09] <_jason> Nolite, nope
[02:09] <linkd> _tcc: nod
[02:09] <Nolite> _jason,  lol... but thanks mate :)
[02:10] <_jason> Nolite, np
[02:10] <LeeJunFan> _tcc: I got over it, now I just use sudo.
[02:10] <oblib> for general movie compression I mean
[02:10] <_tcc> ;)
[02:10] <LeeJunFan> _tcc: and if I can get over using root, you can too :)
[02:10] <Plouj_> 'apt-get install subversion subversion-tools' - is that enough to install svn on a ubuntu client?
[02:10] <robotgeek> Plouj_: yup, shud do
[02:11] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> Is there any way of changing names of files in a dir which has filenames like:  (HC) Hej 01.rar  becauce i cant unrar it :/
[02:11] <_tcc> Cool
[02:11] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> becauce of spaces and stuff in the filename
[02:11] <_tcc> I am going to go mess with UBUNTU!
[02:11] <LeeJunFan> _tcc: but back to your problem with getting an X app to run as root, first tell X to accept connections from other users on your local system by 'xhost +local:', then 'sudo -i' to become root, then 'export DISPLAY=:0.0', then you can run X apps.
[02:12] <oblib> gimmulF|GoAGNES If you put a backslash in front, it will let you do weird characters
[02:12] <oblib> so My\ File\ name\ with\ spaces.txt
[02:13] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> ahh thanks oblib
[02:13] <hydroksyde> gimmulF|GoAGNES: Alternatively, use quotes: "My file name with spaces.txt"
[02:13] <oblib> too true
[02:14] <existance> could someone help me with a graphics card problem?  I have AGP and PCI cards (ATI and Nvidia) and two monitors.  I can only get display on the PCI monitor.  Anyone know how to fix it?
[02:14] <Chris_in_the_uk> evening all, can anyone tell me where i can find the error log for saslauthd?
[02:15] <hydroksyde> existance: could you put your xorg.conf on pastebin.com?
[02:15] <yassine> is gcc installed in ubuntu?
[02:15] <erUSUL> yassine, notm by default install build-essential
[02:15] <existance> hydroksyde: sure second
[02:16] <yassine> erUSUL: how to do that please
[02:16] <lord_drachenblut> hello everyone
[02:16] <robotgeek> Chris_in_the_uk: most probably in /var/log/mail.log
[02:16] <existance> hdroksyde, http://pastebin.com/446862
[02:17] <anavim|away> gimmulF|GoAGNES: putting quotes around filenames also works, such as tar -c "bad name" > badname.tar, etc.
[02:17] <existance> hydroksyde, btw, the Dell monitor is the AGPs and the CrystalScan is the PCIs
[02:18] <hydroksyde> ok
[02:18] <hydroksyde> All I see is a nVidia AGP card and a dell monitor
[02:18] <david_> anybody know how to download the decoder for .wmv?
[02:19] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell david_ about w32codecs
[02:19] <jonathon> gday im having trouble with my samba anyone familiar with it?
[02:19] <Thunderguy> Does anyone know how to resolve a full X11 server lockup, I mean it's still running and all the programs are running the screen is just locked up, but I'd rather keep the programs running.
[02:19] <existance> hydroksyde, yea.. i dont know why the others aren't there
[02:19] <drumline> jonathon: what's going on?
[02:19] <existance> hydroksyde, i can find the AGP card in device manager thoug
[02:19] <david_> what about w32codecs?
[02:20] <poningru> david_: install it
[02:20] <hydroksyde> existance Have you tried making a new config file using "X -configure"?
[02:20] <jonathon> i have it setup fine but i want to change my samba so u dont need to give a user/pass to connect how do i do it/
[02:20] <poningru> ubotu: tell david about w32codecs
[02:20] <existance> hydroksyde, nope, should i?
[02:20] <foampeace> is there an irc client that does smiley faces?
[02:20] <robotgeek> david_: u have to install it
[02:20] <drumline> jonathon: make your shares "public = yes"
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> jonathon,  may want to check out the 'using samba' book . thats avilable online for free.  :P thers some potential pitfalls in doing that.
[02:20] <Thunderguy> So anyone know any hotkeys or something, maybe to refresh X11 display?
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> jonathon,  its worth grabbing/reading in any case. :P
[02:21] <poningru> Thunderguy: ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> Thunderguy,  i think you maybe out of luck.
[02:21] <existance> hydroksyde, how do i stop the X server so i can do that?
[02:21] <Kulissenschieber> foampeace, gaim, kopete,...
[02:21] <Chris_in_the_uk> i just started a grep, how do i stop it?
[02:21] <Thunderguy> poningru: but is there a way without having all the programs closed? I was in a good chat convo and don't want to lose everything.
[02:21] <hydroksyde> existance: Does ctrl+alt+backspace work?
[02:21] <existance> hydroksyde, that restarts it
[02:21] <poningru> Thunderguy: no not possible
[02:21] <jonathon> they are public yes
[02:22] <jonathon> they still require permission
[02:22] <hydroksyde> existance: ok... Try "X :1 -configure"
[02:22] <hydroksyde> then "X :1 -config xorg.conf.new"
[02:22] <drumline> you stop the X server with alt + ctrl + backspace
[02:22] <existance> Fatal server error:
[02:22] <existance> Server is already active for display 0
[02:22] <drumline> that'll kill all the programs though
[02:23] <hydroksyde> drumline: The DM will restart it
[02:23] <jonathon> i think linux is put together very piss poorly
[02:23] <poningru> jonathon: thats great go use windows then
[02:23] <Azmodan> I have a friend trying to install Ubuntu but he get strange error messages.  He think his CD might be damaged.  Is there a way to know if the CD is intact ?
[02:23] <drumline> hydro: DM?
[02:23] <anavim> Thunderguy: unless you can pinpoint an app which is making everything stop and kill it, you are out of luck
[02:24] <hydroksyde> drumline: Display Manager...
[02:24] <drumline> jonathon: it's not piss-poor.  You just need to read your fucking docs.
[02:24] <poningru> Azmodan: yes on the boot prompt press backspace
[02:24] <poningru> I think
[02:24] <seth_k|lappy> drumline, language please
[02:24] <robotgeek> jonathon: why so?
[02:24] <Thunderguy> anavim: I killed the app already, the screen just didn't refresh it stuck itself.
[02:24] <poningru> drumline: dude calm down
[02:24] <drumline> seth: got it...  wilco
[02:24] <Azmodan> poningru, that's all ?  No command ?
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> :)
[02:24] <seth_k|lappy> drumline, even though I agree with you :P
[02:24] <poningru> yeah thats it
[02:24] <jonathon> gnome and kde programs like samba config and crap never do anything
[02:24] <poningru> it should run an md5sum iirc
[02:25] <poningru> jonathon: this is a help channel
[02:25] <poningru> not a troll channel
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> Technicially 'linux' is just the kernel. Its put together very well..
[02:25] <existance> what is the file that I can edit to execute commands at startup?
[02:25] <sethk> Dr_Willis, that's a myth
[02:25] <sethk> Dr_Willis, it isn't "just the kernel".
[02:25] <robotgeek> jonathon: maybe somethings wrong with windows. lol
[02:25] <tux> trappist: are u there?
[02:25] <hydroksyde> existance: X :1 should start an x server on another display
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> existance,  depends on what you mean at startup.
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> seth - if you say so.
[02:25] <poningru> #ubuntu-offtopic for offtopic conversation
[02:25] <sethk> Dr_Willis, do a ps and look at the list of running processes
[02:25] <jonathon> man i have no dramas on linux when it works it works freaking unreal
[02:25] <Azmodan> poningru, thanks
[02:25] <anavim> Thunderguy: if it doesn't recover after ~2-5 minutes, I would reboot
[02:26] <jonathon> trying to make thing works just plain sucks
[02:26] <existance> Dr_Willis, uhh... once i log in..
[02:26] <poningru> Azmodan: compare that to the md5sum at the download site
[02:26] <existance> hydroksyde, it still errors
[02:26] <sethk> jonathon, I have no problems whatsoever making it work.
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> existance,  login to X you mean?
[02:26] <drumline> jonathon: have you gone through the samba docs?   there are a few howto's out there?
[02:26] <existance> Dr_Willis, i think so.
[02:26] <tux> i did chmod -R 600 /home/tux and now i cant login with kde!!! plz help!
[02:26] <jonathon> yes my friend i even went through a guide on samba made for my distro
[02:26] <Azmodan> poningru, this just writes an MD5 on screen ?
[02:26] <jonathon> ive been fucking around with samba for days
[02:26] <poningru> Azmodan: not sure
[02:26] <hydroksyde> existance: I have no idea then. I'm not a ubuntu user, but I understand linux in general well. This is strange behaviour
[02:26] <anavim> jonathon: compared to everything else, linux is far ahead for my needs. maybe your needs are different and you should go back to whatever you were using
[02:26] <robotgeek> jonathon: language, please
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> existance,  most window managers/desktops have a "session" management feature. that makes it fairly easy.. start what ya want. and then 'save current session' is an easy way.
[02:27] <poningru> try it I havent tried that since early breazy cds
[02:27] <poningru> dont know if they changed it
[02:27] <tux> is this command right? find /home/whatever -type d -exec chmod o+x {} \;                ?
[02:27] <drumline> jonathon: are the users still specified in the directory profile?
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> Days on samba? gee - took me all of an Hr to read the "Using Samba book" and i learned about all i needed to know.
[02:27] <robotgeek> existance: or type 'gnome-session-save' in a terminal
[02:28] <sethk> tux, looks ok, but of course I don't know what you are trying to do.
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> actually dosent gnome ask to 'save session' on logout?
[02:28] <kvidell> it's an option
[02:28] <tux> sethk: i did chmod -R 600 /home/tux and now i cant login with kde!!! plz help!
[02:28] <jonathon> dr willis i wouldnt of spent days if the programs that are provided to configure samba actually works
[02:29] <tux> sethk: it says missing argument !
[02:29] <BenDrake> greetings
[02:29] <existance> Dr_Willis, i know, but i thought there was a file that could be edited. no?
[02:29] <sethk> tux, the quickest way to fix it is probably to erase your $HOME/.kde directory
[02:29] <yassine> how to make an usb key bootable?
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> jonathon,  rambling and ranting  - instead of reading. :P
[02:29] <sethk> tux, but that will lose all your settings and go back to the state after install
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> existance,  Not sure with gnome.. some window managers do it differnetly.
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> existance,  what you wanting to start up anyway?
[02:29] <sethk> tux, you may remember I warned about not using numbers with chmod.   :)
[02:30] <anavim> tux: I suggest you restore your user account from backup...
[02:30] <tux> how?
[02:30] <drumline> jonathon: alright... post your directory profile to pastebin
[02:30] <drumline> .com
[02:30] <anavim> tux: I take it that means you didn't make a backup
[02:30] <tux> no i didnt make any backups:(
[02:30] <existance> Dr_Willis: xmms running some music off an ntfs partition
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> existance,  gee... Mission critical eh? :P
[02:31] <drumline> amarok is a nice little program!
[02:31] <yassine> help please
[02:31] <existance> Dr_Willis, damn straight
[02:31] <drumline> yassine: go!~
[02:31] <yassine> how to make an usb key bootable?
[02:31] <existance> Dr_Willis, it's a good thing to know how to do anyway
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> existance,  actually have ya tried the gnome media players yet? they are very impressive.
[02:31] <reiki> got my Breezy CDs... woo-hoo!
[02:31] <tux> plz correct this command: find /home/whatever -type d -exec chmod o+x {} \;               ?
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> existance,  the 'gnome' way would be to check out the sessions 'control paanel'  and add a new command  at each startup.
[02:32] <existance> Dr_Willis, you mean like rythymbox?
[02:32] <drumline> jonathon: still there?   doing the pastebin.com thing?
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> existance,  yea - i think theres a few others.. was playing with them all last week.
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> existance,  i think i liked a kde player better however.
[02:33] <existance> Dr_Willis, i just converted from Windows, so xmms is likewinamp :)
[02:34] <robotgeek> existance: also take a look at beep-media-player
[02:34] <tux> plz someone help me!
[02:34] <Dr_Willis> existance,  xmms is actually getting a little out of date in ways.. may want to check out the "Beep Media Player"  - its  sort of tries to be the next-generation-winamp
[02:34] <drumline> noatrun failed to play my WMA's from my windows box.  Amarok does play them, so I use amarok  :)
[02:34] <hydroksyde> There's also xmms2
[02:34] <hydroksyde> but that's a very early developer release
[02:35] <existance> Dr_Willis, mm might look in toit in a bit
[02:35] <jonathon> im working it out on my own i dont need to be flamed again
[02:35] <sethk> tux, you can use:   find /home/whatever -type d -print | xargs chmod o+x
[02:35] <sethk> tux, although since you didn't say what was wrong with the other command I don't know whether that does what you want
[02:35] <dspstv_ZzzZZzz> yoo i need some help, basic grub understanding...i have 2 internal HD one is hda and the other is hdd, my ubuntu is in hdd3 whats that in grub??
[02:35] <iluciv> Hi I have two installations of ubuntu of two seperate drives but I want to mount one of the drives in the other so that I can transfer data onto one drive and format the other. I have the drive that I want to mount plugged in as slave on secondary ide and ubuntu recognises the disk as hdd but I cannot access the drive. How does one do this??
[02:35] <dspstv_ZzzZZzz> (hd2,2)??
[02:36] <tux> sethk: the other command told me missing argument!
[02:36] <dspstv_ZzzZZzz> or (hdd,2)??
[02:36] <rhoffa> is there anyhting like the task manager in ubuntu
[02:36] <sethk> dspstv_ZzzZZzz, neither
[02:36] <dspstv_ZzzZZzz> agg
[02:36] <rhoffa> i have an audio song playing but theres no player open and i need it to stop
[02:36] <sethk> dspstv_ZzzZZzz, /dev/hdb1, /dev/hdb2, etc.
[02:36] <dspstv_ZzzZZzz> i knew it
[02:36] <sethk> dspstv_ZzzZZzz, then why did you ask?  :)
[02:36] <dspstv_ZzzZZzz> but
[02:36] <drumline> iluciv: the BIOS sees the drives OK?
[02:36] <dspstv_ZzzZZzz> i knew i was wrong
[02:36] <dspstv_ZzzZZzz> )
[02:37] <dspstv_ZzzZZzz> but still,
[02:37] <iluciv> drumline: yes
[02:37] <dspstv_ZzzZZzz> is not clear, sethk... i need to define the numbers for grub
[02:37] <levander> I thought the install disk for breezy was supposed to double as a rescue disk?
[02:37] <drumline> iluciv: "dmesg | less" to find the device names of the drives.  create a directory /mnt and mount that sucker on it.
[02:37] <sethk> dspstv_ZzzZZzz, you want to boot from it, then it is   (hd1,0)   (hd1,1)   etc.
[02:38] <sethk> dspstv_ZzzZZzz, for grub
[02:38] <dspstv_ZzzZZzz> so hdd partition 3, being hdd my second HD
[02:38] <anavim> tux: if you did a chmod 660 -R ~/    <- there's nothing anyone here can do to help you
[02:38] <drumline> actually, /mnt is already there, by default, i think.
[02:38] <anavim> tux: er, 600
[02:38] <iluciv> I have the drive set to slave as well; I thought it would be simple plug and go--ok cool thanks drumline
[02:38] <sethk> dspstv_ZzzZZzz, (hd1,2)
[02:38] <dspstv_ZzzZZzz> oke i will try and see
[02:38] <dspstv_ZzzZZzz> kool
[02:38] <dspstv_ZzzZZzz> merci
[02:38] <rhoffa> does anyone know how i can find out why my song is playing if i dont have a plyaer open
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> rhoffa,  its a ghost? :P
[02:38] <drumline> iluciv: i thought it would be too...   check your media:/ folder.  see if it's there
[02:38] <anavim> tux: you did serious damage to your user account..
[02:39] <oblib> ps -e will help rhoffa
[02:39] <drumline> actually... wouldn't be there...
[02:39] <rhoffa> no, i had a bunch of a certain player open and somehow i closed them all and this audio wont stop
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> rhoffa,  or it spawned a task in the background thats still around. check with the 'ps' command perhaps for somthng  related to the playing
[02:39] <iluciv> drumline: nope not there will try the mount option though
[02:39] <sethk> rhoffa, the player is still running, it just doesn't have a UI open.
[02:39] <existance> Dr_Willis, uhh i installed it off synaptic and when i try to open it nothing happens..
[02:39] <sethk> rhoffa, use ps to find it, then kill it
[02:39] <drumline> iluciv: mount will certainly work
[02:39] <robotgeek> rhoffa: lsof /dev/dsp
[02:39] <Chad1> anyone know the min requirements (hardwar) for ubuntu to run? i got a p2 300
[02:39] <drumline> iluciv: it's just not as automagic as it should be.
[02:40] <sethk> rhoffa, look on your toolbar, you might be able to find the player there and right click and open it
[02:40] <LjL> Chad1: with at least 128MB of RAM, it should work fairly
[02:40] <pozdiy> where is configuration file for Xorg, analog of /etc/X11/XF86Config?
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> existance,  'it'? 'nothing'? :P what are ya talking about.. Ive been eating brownies and am on a Sugar and chocklet buzz right now.
[02:40] <Venson> pozdiy: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:40] <LjL> pozdiy: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:40] <drumline> iluciv: that's definitely something to add to Ubuntu eh?   Auto HD mounting to the /mnt folder or something.
[02:40] <rhoffa> what is ps?
[02:40] <drumline> ...if auto HD mounting is turned on, of course.  :)
[02:41] <drumline> I wouldn't want things automounting...  but I'm a geek.
[02:41] <drumline> rhoffa: man ps
[02:41] <LjL> rhoffa: a program that shows running processes. type "man ps" for in-depth information
[02:41] <pozdiy> Venson: tnx
[02:41] <pbransford> Anyone ever had a network printer start spewing pages, each with an ascii symbol or an HTTP command?
[02:41] <iluciv> drumline dmesg |less gave me a whole lota this "Buffer I/O error on device hdd, logical block 0
[02:41] <iluciv> "
[02:41] <pozdiy> LjL: tnx
[02:41] <oblib> rhoffa ps -e lists all processes
[02:41] <existance> Dr_Willis, bah, beep media player, and nothing means it accepts the command and nothing happens
[02:41] <robotgeek> drumline: it already automounts to /media , if you have gnome-volume-manager running
[02:41] <drumline> iluciv: is the drive failing?
[02:41] <logical_mark> Hey guys I have an AVI file and I don't know how to get mPlayer to make it full screen, when I try it just puts a blue matt around the orginal sized movie!
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> rhoffa, like  -->   ps ax | grep mp3
[02:42] <iluciv> I hope not its an almost brand new drive :O
[02:42] <existance> ps ax
[02:42] <drumline> robotgeek: cool... system services right?
[02:42] <existance> oops..
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> existance,  it may need to be set to use the  arts sound system. Not sure. :P
[02:42] <existance> Dr_Willis, arts?
[02:42] <robotgeek> drumline: no, user app, just type 'gnome-volume-manager' in a terminal
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> existance,  its the gnome sound server (i think) :P
[02:43] <existance> Dr_Willis, hmmm ill see what i can find
[02:43] <drumline> iluciv: cool...   'apt-get install gnome-volume-manager'
[02:43] <pbransford> anyone have any ideas on what happened?
[02:43] <drumline> iluciv: preface that with 'sudo'
[02:45] <iluciv> drumline I've got the latest version already installed
[02:46] <iluciv> I tried sudo mount /dev/hdd /mnt/backup (I've made dir backup) and mount tells me I have to specify the filesystem type
[02:47] <drumline> iluciv: it was from another ubuntu install?
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> iluciv,  -t filesystemtype
[02:47] <existance> I have two cards AGP(ATI Radeon 9800) and PCI (Geforce MX 4000) and monitors for each (Dell and CrystalScan respectively).  When booting, the AGP monitor displays everything, but once ubuntu loads it switches to the PCI monitor.  I can't figure out for the life of me how to change it back or add it.  Any ideas?
[02:47] <iluciv> drumline: yes
[02:47] <drumline> iluciv: try -t ext3
[02:48] <iluciv> Dr_Willis: What you talking bout :P
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> "mount tells me I have to specify the filesystem type"  - SO do so. :P
[02:48] <drumline> iluciv: and before you complete the whole project, be sure to look over the man page and get familiar with the other options of 'mount'
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> option is  -t FileSystemType
[02:49] <dspstv_ZzzZZzz> sethk, is not working the grub line...i will repeat my question, is it possible to make grub in boot from hda boot vmlinux on hdd (different hd)?
[02:49] <iluciv> Dr_Willis: Sorry couldn't resist different strokes quote
[02:49] <drumline> iluciv: ...willis.
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> iluciv,  you just showed your age. :P to be about.. say... 37 or so/
[02:50] <seth_k|lappy> haha, Dr_Willis++
[02:51] <iluciv> lol :(
[02:51] <existance> I have two cards AGP(ATI Radeon 9800) and PCI (Geforce MX 4000) and monitors for each (Dell and CrystalScan respectively).  When booting, the AGP monitor displays everything, but once ubuntu loads it switches to the PCI monitor.  I can't figure out for the life of me how to change it back or add it.  Any ideas?
[02:51] <iluciv> not that old close though
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> I still think  Gary Coleman should of ran for Vice Govoner with Arnold S. :P
[02:51] <dspstv_ZzzZZzz> grub only lists me one hardrive.. :(
[02:52] <levander> Has anybody used the rescue disc that is a part of the ubuntu hoary installation disc?
[02:52] <iluciv> get this error now think I'll plug it in as master and see if it boots to be sure its not the hardware "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd,
[02:52] <iluciv>        missing codepage or other error
[02:52] <iluciv>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[02:52] <iluciv>        dmesg | tail  or so
[02:52] <dspstv_ZzzZZzz> or with bruce Willis Dr_Willis
[02:53] <iluciv> Dr_Willis: Twins anyone LOL
[02:54] <afabian> Where is a good place for me to define variables that I want to be inherited by every program started under X/GNOME/whatever when I'm using gdm?
[02:54] <afabian> shell variables, that is.. like EDITOR
[02:54] <Venson> afabian: ~/.bashrc
[02:54] <Venson> afabian: assuming you use bash, of course.
[02:54] <eternalist> anyone know of a good airplane combat game for linux?
[02:55] <drumline> iluciv: did that work for you?
[02:55] <eternalist> native perferably and with marginally good graphics
[02:55] <drumline> 117 i think
[02:55] <eternalist> thanks :)
[02:55] <drumline> i only played it a few times.. it was decent, but not Jane's.
[02:55] <iluciv> drumline: nope I'm going to shut down now and reverse the drives and see if it picks it up on the other install/drive
[02:56] <jah_raztah> how do i use dapper?
[02:57] <drumline> iluciv: you didn't alter the default install file system type?
[02:57] <_jason> jah_raztah, read the topic
[02:57] <jah_raztah> lol i kno
[02:57] <drumline> hehe..   what IS dapper?
[02:57] <_jason> !dapper
[02:57] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[02:58] <drumline> ahh.. .got it
[02:58] <foampeac1> is dapper useable?
[02:58] <HrdwrBoB> no
[02:58] <afabian> jah_raztah, figuring it out will be good practice for the problems you're going to hit that no one here is going to help you with when everything breaks.  Good luck.
[02:58] <HrdwrBoB> it may or may not be usable but it'll certainly break a few times before release
[02:58] <drumline> more than a few times
[02:59] <hydroksyde> you people call this an install prog? My dead grandfather could have installed linux faster than this...
[02:59] <jah_raztah> afabian, i'm not on dapper, i just read the topic and asked that stupid question, my appologies
[02:59] <drumline> alright... Question...  Name a cheap, but good VPN router that allows PPTP or L2TP client access.
[03:00] <kenichi> gn8 all
[03:00] <iustin> plz could someone give me some help, i`ve spend 2 days trying to make this out but i can`t: when i open hda1 (NTFS) it says i dunno have the right to open
[03:00] <drumline> peace
[03:00] <afabian> jah_raztah, people have a strange habit of running development versions and crying when stuff breaks.  It's very strange.  My apologies if I seem hostile, it's designed to deal with those sorts of folks. =)
[03:00] <drumline> iustin: using sudo?
[03:00] <iustin> aah ?
[03:00] <iustin> i use sudo just
[03:00] <iustin> when i install programs
[03:00] <iustin> with console or synaptic
[03:01] <ubuntu_> how does the ubuntu livecd get ati acceleration without using the fglrx drivers?
[03:01] <iustin> i learn quick but i`m new to linux
[03:02] <drumline> iustin: you need to use 'sudo' for all programs that require altering system settings.   Mounting and Dismounting with 'mount' is something you need root privs for.   Try it with sudo.
[03:02] <iustin> i tryed it in command line with sudo first and then mount
[03:02] <r3tex> =P
[03:02] <iustin> it tells me they are already mounted
[03:02] <iustin> but when i click on them...
[03:02] <iustin> i don`t have the rights
[03:03] <joe__> is something misconfigured that tuxracer graphics are really slow and choppy?
[03:03] <eternalist> lol that gl-117 is fun
[03:04] <Madpilot> joe__: do you have 3d accel enabled?
[03:04] <occy> crimsun, btw, after nuking my personal prefs, it didn't seem to help, as FF started back crashing again not too long afterwards.
[03:05] <occy> which sucks as I need FF to do my work.
[03:05] <iustin> i`ve read all about mounting on ubuntu unofficial guide... but it don`t work!
[03:05] <Knowerrors> Anybody know good online free fax service?
[03:06] <existance> I have two cards AGP(ATI Radeon 9800) and PCI (Geforce MX 4000) and monitors for each (Dell and CrystalScan respectively).  When booting, the AGP monitor displays everything, but once ubuntu loads it switches to the PCI monitor.  I can't figure out for the life of me how to change it back or add it.  Any ideas?
[03:06] <Madpilot> iustin: if you're talking about ubuntuguide.org, it's not up to date anymore and can break your Ubuntu... check the wiki for mounting info instead
[03:06] <iustin> ok...
[03:06] <eternalist> Is anyone else having problems connecting to Steam?
[03:07] <eternalist> I cant even play offline games, its stupid
[03:07] <jah_raztah> ls /dev/cdrom modif /media/cdrom
[03:08] <vblanton> Can someone help me, for some reason I get slow internet in linux w/ my ethernet 1.5mb connection and I can't figure out why! everything works fine in windows, but not in kubuntu and gentoo.
[03:08] <vblanton>  I have disabled ipv6 to no avail...
[03:08] <eternalist> I get a "Could Not Connect to Steam Network" error, even though i was conecting just fine yesterday
[03:08] <eternalist> so it isnt my NAT or a firewall
[03:08] <aiing> hi all got a problem with getting wpa_supplicant up and running
[03:10] <aiing> conf file is fine but when i run "wpa_supplicant -B -i eth1 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -D ipw -w
[03:10] <aiing> fi"
[03:10] <aiing> i get a error i dont understand
[03:10] <aiing> ENGINE: ctrl cmd_string failed: LOAD (null) [error:25066067:DSO support routines:DLFCN_LOAD:could not load the shared library] 
[03:10] <Oceansblue> hello
[03:10] <blizzo> hello
[03:11] <Oceansblue> Just got everything working on emachines laptop - wireless, 3d acceleration etc.
[03:12] <ordinary> Someone help me get my wireless card working :'(
[03:12] <Oceansblue> what is the hardware
[03:12] <Ziggy> peak client on Linux?
[03:12] <Ziggy> thanks
[03:12] <ordinary> I must input the command 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' and when I do this I get an error.  If I don't resolve this, then nothing will work.
[03:13] <ordinary> The rest of the work is trivial.
[03:13] <Oceansblue> ndiswrapper will install itself by 'ndiswrapper -m'
[03:13] <ordinary> "FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted" is the error.
[03:14] <Venson> ordinary: try as root?
[03:15] <Madpilot> Venson: he said he tried w/ sudo, so that part shouldn't be a problem...
[03:15] <Madpilot> as for the rest, I still run lots of Cat5, and know zip about wireless...
[03:15] <Oceansblue> right
[03:15] <Oceansblue> My install was not too bad
[03:16] <Oceansblue> I just did ndiswrapper -i <driver.inf>
[03:16] <Oceansblue> It must recognise hardware
[03:16] <Ziggy> does anyone here know how to install teamspeak client on linux?
[03:16] <ordinary> Anyone know offhand where I put the driver file?
[03:16] <Oceansblue> ndiswrapper will do it for you
[03:17] <Oceansblue> just pic a local directory
[03:17] <Oceansblue> put the sys and inf file in it and run ndiswrapper
[03:18] <Oceansblue> Does anyone have skype running I need to test mine
[03:18] <dash> hi, i just updated to kernel 2.6.15-6 and latest udev in dapper: now radeonfb gets loaded at boot. anybody know the easy way to disable that?
[03:18] <Ziggy> only on my windoze machine
[03:18] <dash> Oceansblue: skype is evil
[03:19] <Oceansblue> why
[03:19] <dash> Oceansblue: 'cause i work for a competitor
[03:19] <dash> (an open-source one ;)
[03:19] <robotgeek> dash: /topic
[03:19] <Ziggy> lol
[03:19] <dash> robotgeek: hmm
[03:19] <Oceansblue> dash: and that is
[03:19] <robotgeek> dash: what's it called, i would like to try it
[03:19] <joeyp> in order for my nic to work i have to manually load a different module using modprobe
[03:20] <joeyp> how do i set that to happen automatically in ubuntu
[03:20] <joeyp> since i see no modprobe.conf
[03:20] <Oceansblue> I have dial up modem, lan 10/100/1000 and wireless working
[03:20] <dash> robotgeek: don't have anything ready for production use yet, but: http://divmod.org/
[03:20] <dash> robotgeek: anyway what were you referring me to in the topic
[03:20] <robotgeek> joeyp: create a file in /etc/modprobe.d/<modulename>
[03:20] <robotgeek> dash: If you have to ask how to use dapper, don't. :)
[03:21] <dash> robotgeek: Uh.
[03:21] <dash> I wasn't asking how to use dapper.
[03:21] <joeyp> thanks robot.  will give it a try
[03:21] <robotgeek> dash: anyways, lemme look around. i think i know this
[03:21] <vblanton> anyone know why my internet is VERY slow on websites and downloading but not when I rysc?
[03:21] <LeeJunFan> robotgeek: the same could be said about linux in general :)
[03:21] <robotgeek> dash: can you join #ubuntu-offtopic for this?
[03:22] <dash> sure
[03:22] <dawei> just wanted to drop off a word: a few days ago someone guided me in the right way about setting up a dualboot system. Thank you very much!
[03:22] <joeyp> robotgeek, in the file would i put "alias eth0 de4x5" ?
[03:22] <robotgeek> joeyp: exactly
[03:22] <funktown> is there any way to get my mpd playlist listed alphabetically in ncmpc?
[03:22] <joeyp> de4x5 is the module i need, but de2104x is loaded
[03:23] <joeyp> thanks
[03:23] <funktown> aside from doing it manually? =(
[03:23] <PokerFacePenguin> vblanton: probably an ipv4 and ipv6 setting in your browser
[03:23] <PokerFacePenguin> vblanton: use firefox?
[03:24] <vblanton> PokerFacePenguin, I disabled ipv6 entirely on my system and in firefox
[03:24] <otep> hi! where can i find the config file for the gdm theme greeter?
[03:24] <teprrr> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=539669#post539669 -- hello, can anyone help me with this?
[03:24] <coz> hello all
[03:24] <coz>  I would like to ask if anyone knws of a difinitive how to for wacom tablets
[03:25] <PokerFacePenguin> vblanton: thats the only thing I could think of why it would be slower in only a browser
[03:25] <coz> frakly every one I have seen is either not complete or system dependant
[03:26] <vblanton> PokerFacePenguin, it is slow outside the browser when downloading as well (with wget or kget, for example)
[03:26] <Oceansblue> Does anyone have Skype running on Ubuntu - I need a test call
[03:26] <teprrr> Oceansblue, try echo123, or are you testing network things?
[03:27] <zorba64> otep: /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[03:27] <PokerFacePenguin> vblanton: what about protocols other than http?  ftp or sftp for example..
[03:28] <zorba64> otep: or sudo updatedb && locate gdm
[03:28] <otep> dh
[03:29] <otep> zorba64: thanks!
[03:29] <vblanton> PokerFacePenguin, ftp is slow too.. :(
[03:29] <PokerFacePenguin> vblanton: did it just start happening? did it start after  you installed another prog?  fresh install? hardware in between you and net?  firewall issues? routing issues?  those are the directions i might look in
[03:30] <vblanton> PokerFacePenguin, wait a second!
[03:30] <zorba64> otep: np
[03:30] <vblanton> PokerFacePenguin, ftp is really fast.. when downloading
[03:30] <vblanton> PokerFacePenguin, I just downloaded a file from ftp.kernel.org and it went at 200kb/s, like it should.
[03:31] <PokerFacePenguin> vblanton: using a proxy?
[03:31] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> hmm im getting this error: Fatal error: Call to undefined function: mysql_connect() i  at this line: $link =  mysql_connect('localhost','xxxxx','xxxxx');
[03:32] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> werd huh?
[03:32] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> or doesnt my php configuration work
[03:32] <vblanton> PokerFacePenguin, nope, not that I know of.
[03:32] <vblanton> PokerFacePenguin, so, ftp and rsync are fast, but http is slow... weird
[03:32] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> hmm wrong channel sorry
[03:33] <PokerFacePenguin> vblanton: all sites you browse to slow?
[03:34] <threeseas> seems I fixed my ubuntu stability problems --- but not verified until I reboot and let it set for days ... removed acpi and powernowd and modprobe ndiswrapper numerious times
[03:34] <vblanton> PokerFacePenguin, yessir
[03:34] <threeseas> so far I've been up without lockup for 3-4 day
[03:34] <PokerFacePenguin> vblanton: from what you have said, it would lead me to believe it is browser related....except that you mentioned wget is slow too
[03:35] <LeeJunFan> vblanton: proxy?
[03:35] <vblanton> PokerFacePenguin, yes. download with wget is slow (http transactions)
[03:35] <vblanton> LeeJunFan, I don't think so. never set one u[
[03:36] <gin_> somebody know, how can i set password to root ?
[03:36] <LeeJunFan> vblanton: your ISP may use a transparent proxy, go to http://www.skycon.net/ip.php and see if your IP is correct there.
[03:36] <PokerFacePenguin> gin_: you cannot login as root by default
[03:37] <PokerFacePenguin> gin_: its a safety feature....passwd command sets passwords
[03:37] <gin_> PokerFacePenguin, i need it to no use  sudo..
[03:37] <Madpilot> gin_: use sudo instead
[03:38] <blizzo> sudo passwd root ?
[03:38] <PokerFacePenguin> gin_: make sure it is enabled...it is also disabled by default
[03:38] <gin_> yeah thats its .. tnx :)
[03:39] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> !apache
[03:39] <ubotu> apache is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP or, for Ubuntu server information, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/installation-custom
[03:39] <PokerFacePenguin> gin_: the reason you can use sudo is because you are in admin group
[03:39] <gin_> its done dude thank you.
[03:40] <vblanton> LeeJunFan, ok so it tells me my ip...
[03:40] <LeeJunFan> vblanton: as long as it's yours, that rules out any type of proxy.
[03:40] <vblanton> LeeJunFan, and its different from what ifconfig is telling me...
[03:40] <DShepherd> hey
[03:40] <vblanton> ifconfig is tell me a 192.168 address pushed by my linksys router...
[03:41] <vblanton> LeeJunFan, the site is telling me 67.54 address...
[03:41] <LeeJunFan> vblanton: if you have a router between you and the internet doing NAT you'll see the private IP addresses in use on your LAN, not what your real internet address is.
[03:41] <vblanton> LeeJunFan, 192.168 is an local address only though
[03:41] <vblanton> LeeJunFan, right
[03:42] <coz> Hello again people
[03:42] <coz>  anyone here have a definitive source for wacom ho to on ubuntu?
[03:42] <purplelint> vblanton:  "wget -S http://..." may also tell you if there is a transparent proxy, if you see a header like "X-Cache" in it...
[03:42] <hydroksyde> hello again
[03:42] <LeeJunFan> vblanton: did the site tell you 67.....192?
[03:43] <levander> After I copy my partitions onto another hard drive, somebody can tell me how to install grub so I can boot from that new disc?
[03:44] <unistd> How I see what files of package installed?
[03:44] <vblanton> LeeJunFan, yes
[03:44] <vblanton> LeeJunFan, 67.54.220.192
[03:44] <hydroksyde> levander: I don't know about GRUB, but I know lilo
[03:44] <cyphase> I'm working on a script/program that takes a fresh Ubuntu installation and does a few things to it to make it better (install support for mp3's, other media, etc)
[03:45] <levander> hydroksyde: think i wanna just stick with grub because it's more common, but thanks
[03:45] <cyphase> Anyone have any ideas for what else I should add?
[03:45] <LeeJunFan> vblanton: good, that's your real IP, no proxy.
[03:45] <vblanton> LeeJunFan, or not good, because then we would have an answer..
[03:45] <vblanton> LeeJunFan, I'm totally stumped...
[03:45] <levander> there's a graphical editor for grub's menu.lst in ubuntu?
[03:45] <vblanton> LeeJunFan, its not ipv6.. its not DNS problems.. it not proxy...
[03:45] <vblanton> LeeJunFan, its not browser-related...
[03:46] <vblanton> LeeJunFan, just when using Http protocol...
[03:46] <LeeJunFan> cyphase: if arch=amd64 debootstrap an i386 install, download and install flashplayer and mozilla to it :)
[03:46] <hydroksyde> cyphase: Does ubuntu not have MP3 support by default?
[03:46] <LjL> hydroksyde: correct
[03:46] <LjL> !tell hydroksyde about RestrictedFormats
[03:46] <iustin> look at that: iustin@ubuntu:~$ sudo  mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222
[03:46] <iustin> mount: /dev/hda1 already mounted or /media/windows/ busy
[03:46] <iustin> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda1 is mounted on /media/hda1
[03:46] <iustin> but when i click on it, i receive i don`t have the rights
[03:46] <bur[n] er> anyone have experience with an FX5500 Nvidia card?  good or bad?
[03:47] <sethk> iustin, so?  It's mounted and you don't have the rights
[03:47] <sethk> iustin, you need to use the uid= and pid= in -o
[03:47] <LeeJunFan> vblanton: sounds almost as if your ISP has a bad rule in their QoS, probably meant to give higher pref to port 80 and did the opposite.
[03:47] <iustin> so how may i open that hda1
[03:47] <cyphase> come on people, i need more here!
[03:47] <cyphase> ;)
[03:47] <LeeJunFan> cyphase: mplayer codecs?
[03:48] <vblanton> LeeJunFan, well, everything works fine on my windows partition that I'd rather not use..
[03:48] <hydroksyde> LjL: Thanks... Same reason as Fedora, I guess
[03:48] <sethk> iustin, if you want to remount it, first do umount /dev/hda1
[03:48] <iustin> ok
[03:48] <iustin> but the problem is i have never seen my ntfs
[03:48] <LeeJunFan> vblanton: okay, so you get to the site okay, but when you download the speed reported is ???
[03:48] <drumline> Where are the firewall configs with ubuntu?
[03:48] <vblanton> LeeJunFan, 2.5-3k/s..
[03:49] <PokerFacePenguin> vblanton: temporarily disable your firewall and see if it is related to that
[03:49] <vblanton> LeeJunFan, sites are awfully slow, unless ftp.
[03:49] <vblanton> PokerFacePenguin, what firewall?
[03:49] <blizzo> drumline: ubuntu firewall?
[03:49] <PokerFacePenguin> vblanton: rules that out then.. .:P
[03:49] <drumline> blizzo: where
[03:49] <vblanton> :)
[03:49] <sethk> iustin, you say that as if it changes something that I said
[03:50] <bur[n] er> drumline: there is no default firewall
[03:50] <blizzo> drumline: dunno, what firewall?
[03:50] <bur[n] er> drumline: it's pretty unnecessary
[03:50] <iustin> well... i`m sorry
[03:50] <drumline> ahh.. ok..
[03:50] <sethk> iustin,I'm not complaining, I'm just saying you  are a bit confused
[03:50] <iustin> yes i am
[03:50] <iustin> :)
[03:50] <vblanton> noooo.....
[03:50] <LeeJunFan> vblanton: linksys router?
[03:50] <vblanton> ya
[03:50] <sethk> iustin, so I'm trying to find out what you are confused about.
[03:51] <iustin> well
[03:51] <sethk> iustin, so I ask why you think it matters whether you've seen it 0 times or 10000 times.
[03:51] <LeeJunFan> vblanton: and you haven't setup any of the advanced QoS maybe on it?
[03:51] <iustin> i read on the wiki and there it says i have to mount them and then just browse
[03:51] <sethk> iustin, the wiki isn't always right
[03:52] <vblanton> LeeJunFan, i'm not sure what QoS is..
[03:52] <sethk> iustin, the way things usually end up, only root can browse, without using uid= and gid=
[03:52] <Oceansblue> wiki knows all
[03:52] <iustin> so how can i log as root
[03:52] <LeeJunFan> vblanton: if it's a newer router, I think you'd find it under applications/gaming.
[03:52] <iustin> sudo is enough?
[03:52] <sethk> iustin, you can leave out gid=, actually, if you only need one user to browse
[03:52] <sethk> iustin, yes, although I suspect that you don't know how it would be enough
[03:52] <vblanton> LeeJunFan, its all disabled..
[03:53] <iustin> i don`t need extra security
[03:53] <iustin> just a damn desktop
[03:53] <sethk> iustin, if you did sudo -i, getting a root prompt, then you can move into the ntfs file system from the command line
[03:53] <sethk> iustin, that's not the issue.  The ownership is set up by windows.
[03:53] <LeeJunFan> vblanton: I can't imagine that would be it though if the same machine under windows works fine the router would hand you the same IP, and get the same QoS settings. BTW - QoS == Quality Of Service
[03:53] <sethk> iustin, if you have to map the owner to a specific user, otherwise it defaults to root
[03:53] <bur[n] er> anyone know what to do if lspci isn't working?  http://burner.ath.cx/Screenshot.jpg
[03:53] <vblanton> LeeJunFan, i see.
[03:53] <iustin> and when i type : ls .... nothing
[03:53] <LeeJunFan> vblanton: good, should be disabled.
[03:53] <Amaranth> bur[n] er: Cry? :)
[03:53] <iustin> ok... sethk
[03:54] <iustin> just tell me what to read
[03:54] <bur[n] er> lol, thanks Amaranth ;)
[03:54] <vblanton> LeeJunFan, windows is doing something extra that linux isn't, or perhaps the router firmware needs updating?
[03:54] <LeeJunFan> vblanton: you definately have a stumper there.
[03:54] <iustin> cause i have read from everywhere
[03:54] <Amaranth> bur[n] er: I'm crying loading that screenshot on dialup.
[03:54] <vblanton> LeeJunFan, my satellite connection also has a router.. maybe it has problems?
[03:54] <iustin> and i believe i must handel
[03:54] <bur[n] er> Amaranth: i can export it as text :)
[03:55] <Amaranth> too late
[03:55] <bur[n] er> http://burner.ath.cx/lspci.txt
[03:55] <bur[n] er> doh
[03:55] <LeeJunFan> vblanton: maybe reboot them, but it shouldn't make a diff if it's windows/linux. Except that your windows may have software on it that setup different network stuff, that maybe your provider gave you a CD to install.
[03:55] <bur[n] er> Amaranth: ideas?
[03:55] <sethk> iustin, everything you need to know you can find by doing:    man mount
[03:55] <Amaranth> bur[n] er: I'd say something is wrong with your bios
[03:55] <bur[n] er> my bios?
[03:55] <iustin> thx
[03:55] <iustin> i try now
[03:55] <vblanton> LeeJunFan, no cd. all auto
[03:55] <Amaranth> bur[n] er: Or you're foolishly using dapper with the 2.6.15 kernel when #ubuntu-devel's topic says not to.
[03:55] <LeeJunFan> vblanton: maybe you are supposed to have a proxy set for web? Most sat providers do.
[03:56] <bur[n] er> i coulda swore that lspci worked when I was using warty
[03:56] <LeeJunFan> vblanton: well, forget that then.
[03:56] <bur[n] er> 2.6.12-10
[03:56] <vblanton> LeeJunFan, i'm going to contact wildblue.. my provider
[03:56] <Amaranth> bur[n] er: No idea then, I've never seen it do that.
[03:56] <vblanton> LeeJunFan, thank you for spending the time with me. it really sucks to be forced to use windows, as you can imagine.
[03:56] <bur[n] er> Amaranth: thanks for checkin it for me anyway... hopefully someday i'll get it...  or get the time to backup and reinstall
[03:56] <LeeJunFan> vblanton: prolly a good idea, satellite can be finiky, they usually have some odd configurations to try to get around the latency issues.
[03:57] <iustin> wuaw.... that`s huge
[03:57] <iustin> :))
[03:57] <LeeJunFan> Only the dead have seen the end of windows.
[03:57] <sethk> iustin, search for ntfs, read those parts
[03:57] <sethk> iustin, in man, you search by typing /ntfs        slash and whatever you want to search for
[03:58] <iustin> thx again
[03:58] <PokerFacePenguin> lol........if there were a questionmark there i would say no
[03:58] <robotgeek> sorry for offtopic stuff, couldn't resist
[03:58] <LeeJunFan> Not to mention all the windows machines I have to fix all the time.
[03:58] <PokerFacePenguin> <--- no windows here either
[03:58] <Caithness> when i try to boot the live dvd or install ubuntu on a compaq presario, the computer restarts instead
[03:58] <vblanton> LeeJunFan, i almost deleted it off my computer entirely right before I recieved high-speed internet
[03:59] <LeeJunFan> vblanton: windows and high-speed == faster viruses and spyware :)
[03:59] <gleesond_> is there a realplayer alternative that can play in my browser naturally
[03:59] <vblanton> LeeJunFan, I would never have though that I would say this, but i'm glad I didn't get rid of it yet
[03:59] <vblanton> gleesond_, yes. i really like kmplayer the best
[03:59] <PokerFacePenguin> vblanton: have you tried a knoppix disk and surfed the web to rule out a problem in ubuntu?
[03:59] <vblanton> gleesond_, yes. or just mplayer, but kmplayer allows multiple backends
[04:00] <LjL> vblanton: that isn't packaged, is it?
[04:00] <vblanton> PokerFacePenguin, I have a gentoo partition with the same problem
[04:00] <vblanton> LjL, i'm sure kmplayer is packaged.. but I haven't checked.
[04:00] <PokerFacePenguin> vblanton: that is an important point
[04:00] <LjL> vblanton: well it doesn't appear in the repos
[04:00] <LeeJunFan> vblanton: man, I'd love to know what you find out when it's fixed. IT has to be some odd MTU or proxy setting, etc...
[04:00] <vblanton> LjL, just plain 'ol mplayer should work as well
[04:01] <LjL> of course, and i have it installed, i'd just never heard of kmplayer
[04:01] <vblanton> LjL, kmplayer isn't in the repos? maybe you need to get different repos?
[04:01] <iustin> aha ... sethk ... i understand now... tell me once more about uid si gid... what values should i type ??
[04:01] <LjL> vblanton: i don't know, i have all the official ones
[04:01] <vblanton> LjL, there is a plugin for mozilla and mozilla-like browsers (firefox) for built-in mplayer support
[04:02] <vblanton> LjL, kmplayer is by far the best player because it supports multiple backends. I go back and forth with kmplayer and xine.
[04:02] <LjL> i don't really care for browser support, it's just that i'd have found a KDE version of mplayer nice
[04:02] <tyler> Whats the best IM client for ubuntu?  Is trillian compatible?
[04:02] <vblanton> LjL, all, then kmplayer is what you want.
[04:02] <blizzo> tyler: psi
[04:02] <jbroome> tyler: give Gaim a shot
[04:02] <tyler> oo
[04:02] <tyler> psi / gaim? which
[04:03] <iustin> sethk ... i understand now... tell me once more about uid si gid... what values should i type ??
[04:03] <jbroome> try 'em both, see what you like
[04:03] <tyler> hehe
[04:03] <vblanton> PokerFacePenguin, LeeJunFan, I think i'll try swinging in the knoppix disc and seeing what happens
[04:03] <LjL> vblanton: yes but if it isn't packaged, then i'll guess i'll just live without it
[04:03] <vblanton> PokerFacePenguin, LeeJunFan, if it doesn't work in knoppix, all hell is going to break loose
[04:03] <synackuator> is there a standard gnome hex editor?
[04:03] <vblanton> LjL, maybe in the back repos? or some unofficial ones?
[04:03] <PokerFacePenguin> vblanton: my guess is if it doesnt work in gentoo either it wont work in knoppix...but worth a shot
[04:03] <vblanton> LjL, not having kmplayer would be depressing.
[04:04] <blizzo> synackuator: ghex?
[04:04] <LjL> vblanton: i'll try to find it in some unofficial repo. it's not in backports either
[04:05] <vblanton> LjL, perhaps straight out of the debian rep?
[04:05] <PokerFacePenguin> vblanton: i'd have to agree with leejunfan that it is probably something oddball like MTU setting
[04:05] <vblanton> MTU/
[04:05] <vblanton> ?
[04:05] <LjL> vblanton: hmm i don't feel too comfortable installing debian pakcages...
[04:05] <PokerFacePenguin> vblanton: maximum transmission unit
[04:05] <vblanton> LjL, ok, then don't :)
[04:05] <Tedd> Can anybody help me with my mp3 player and ubuntu?
[04:05] <Tedd> I have Gnomad2
[04:06] <Tedd> But it gives me an error
[04:06] <sethk> iustin, at a prompt, type  id     it will print your user and group IDs
[04:06] <Tedd> "usb_set_operation: could not perform operation"
[04:06] <vblanton> PokerFacePenguin, um. what exactly is that? where is it located?
[04:06] <janek> can someone help with dual monitors
[04:06] <Tedd> Man, Gnomad2's a bitch.
[04:06] <PokerFacePenguin> vblanton: its an ip configuration parameter
[04:07] <vblanton> PokerFacePenguin, but, if it works in windows, it couldn't be hardware. Also, I use 2.6.14 in gentoo which has some forcedeth fixes (nvidia ethernet driver) still no avail...
[04:07] <janek> I've loaded the ATI drivers, and dual screen works at the longin screen in Ubuntu, but once I login the second monitor just displays a brown background
[04:08] <vblanton> PokerFacePenguin, LeeJunFan, im off to test knoppix. if it works, i'll come back and say so.
[04:08] <vblanton> PokerFacePenguin, LeeJunFan, Thank you for helping m
[04:08] <janek> did I miss something in the configure file
[04:08] <Tedd> Anybody home to ehlp with Gnomad2?
[04:08] <iustin> sethk, uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)
[04:08] <iustin>  ... so ?? :))
[04:08] <PokerFacePenguin> vblanton: for further reading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTU_%28networking%29
[04:08] <LeeJunFan> vblanton: good luck man.
[04:09] <MikeStyle> hi guys, im trying to configure vmware workstation 5.5 and it asks me this :What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[04:09] <MikeStyle> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]                               and i have no idea where it is
[04:10] <AbdulSpiegel> Can anyone help me get my sound to work?
[04:10] <MikeStyle> Abdul, whats wrong?
[04:10] <blizzo> esd?
[04:10] <sethk> iustin, if you are root, can you cd into the ntfs directory?
[04:11] <MikeStyle> ...?
[04:13] <luisito> hello...
[04:13] <blizzo> hi
[04:14] <janek> I need help with dual monitors
[04:14] <MikeStyle> janek, what is your video card?
[04:14] <luisito> Can we say in linux we can view any video in any format?
[04:15] <janek> ATI 9600 All-in-wonder
[04:15] <sklav> Hi guys
[04:15] <MikeStyle> janek, video cards on linux do not usually pick up dual
[04:15] <Madpilot> luisito: most of them
[04:15] <MikeStyle> janek, you will have to reconfigure your video card
[04:15] <janek> i get dual screen before I login into ubuntu
[04:15] <janek> but once I login the second screen is just brown
[04:15] <MikeStyle> janek, change your resolution from 1024 x 768 or whatever it is
[04:16] <MikeStyle> to your new resolution
[04:16] <luisito> Madpilot, thanks, I'm creating a webpage for the people to know more about linux.
[04:16] <Tedd> Gnomad2, help. Please.
[04:16] <Tedd> :D
[04:16] <janek> ok
[04:16] <MikeStyle> janek, itll be the same hight but way longer width
[04:16] <Madpilot> luisito: there's already several of those - have a look at wiki.ubuntu.com first
[04:16] <Flying-Penguin> INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: Could not get the plugin manager
[04:16] <Flying-Penguin> System error?:: Success
[04:16] <MikeStyle>  hi guys, im trying to configure vmware workstation 5.5 and it asks me this :What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[04:16] <MikeStyle>  kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]                               and i have no idea where it is
[04:16] <Flying-Penguin> ^trying to open firefox
[04:17] <PokerFacePenguin> sheesh...why do people have to try to hack with your machine just cuz they got ur ip
[04:17] <PokerFacePenguin> later
[04:18] <AbdulSpiegel> MikeStyle: sorry man for not replying, umm the problem is it just wont work
[04:18] <luisito> Madpilot, yes I know, but mine I'll try to make it a little different, you'll see
[04:18] <MikeStyle> AbdulSpiegel, wtf do u mean
[04:18] <blizzo> luisito: url?
[04:18] <MikeStyle> Abdul it WILL work if i know where the c header files are, which i dont
[04:19] <AbdulSpiegel> MikeStyle: umm i dont know man, i plugged my speakers in and it worked perfect when i was using knopptix, but when i installed Ubuntu it doesn't work
[04:19] <janek> it kind of got weird
[04:19] <MikeStyle> ohh i thought u were talking about my problem
[04:19] <luisito> blizzo, yep
[04:19] <janek> stuff would get displyed on the other monitor, but mouse can't go over
[04:20] <MikeStyle> Abdul, double click on your volume icon and make sure everything is in order
[04:20] <janek> the mouse will only go to the left edge of the second monitor and stop
[04:20] <AbdulSpiegel> umm... where is the volume icon?
[04:20] <AbdulSpiegel> lol
[04:20] <AbdulSpiegel> im new at this
[04:20] <FliesLikeABrick> i have ubuntu installed on this laptop, but i want to try out kde (currently using the ubuntu default of gnome).  When I install KDE through apt, it isn't full functional like gnome is (can't shut down, etc)... is there any way to install a KDE environment like what kubuntu would have, while at the same time keeping my gnome environment an option at the login screen?
[04:20] <knoppix> LeeJunFan, you still around?
[04:20] <MikeStyle> Abdul...top right if your on gnome
[04:21] <MikeStyle> abdul, little speaker thing
[04:21] <AbdulSpiegel> i am on gnome, unfortunately i dont see it, is there another way to get to it?
[04:21] <MikeStyle> you dont see the speaker icon./?
[04:21] <FliesLikeABrick> AbdulSpiegel,  if it isn't there, your sound hardware may not be recognized?
[04:21] <FliesLikeABrick> minus the ?
[04:22] <MikeStyle> Abdul, possibly
[04:22] <AbdulSpiegel> FliesLikeABrick, is there away to get it recognized?
[04:22] <AbdulSpiegel> MikeStyle: how would i find it?
[04:22] <Tedd> Help.
[04:22] <Tedd> Please.
[04:23] <Tedd> Gnomad2. Have both libusb and hotplug.
[04:23] <MikeStyle> Abdul, click on the applications menu and scroll down to sound and multimedia and look for volume control
[04:23] <ordinary> DAMMIT I can't find the right driver for ndiswrapper :'(  or the right one isn't working!
[04:23] <ordinary> And it worked before I updated my system to 5.10!!!!!
[04:24] <AbdulSpiegel> MikeStyle: i found the thing, but i got an error: No volume control elements and/or devices found
[04:24] <MikeStyle> Abdul, yes your hardware isnt configured correctly
[04:25] <AbdulSpiegel> MikeStyle: can you or anyone else please help be confiqure it?
[04:25] <ordinary> AAARGH D: Why doesn't it work NOW
[04:25] <MikeStyle> Abdul, to tell you the truth i have no idea how to.
[04:25] <oscar> #ubi
[04:25] <AbdulSpiegel> darn
[04:26] <sklav> quick question but i keep seeing references to ubuntu enterprise
[04:26] <sklav> yet i have not seen an iso
[04:26] <Amaranth> sklav: It's the same iso
[04:26] <Amaranth> sklav: Just with paid support.
[04:27] <sklav> ok the website seems to indicate that enterprise has a longer shelf life
[04:27] <sklav> i was confused is all
[04:28] <kats> hi, is http://shipit.ubuntu.com the correct site to go to for the free Ubuntu CD? My browser tells me its certificate actually belongs to launchpad.net
[04:28] <inva|id> kats: yes, it is powered by launchpad
[04:28] <irvin> yes kats
[04:28] <kats> ok, thanks
[04:28] <Madpilot> kats: it's the right one, but the certs are messed up
[04:28] <eps> what is the base package to install to get an xserver w/ gnome if possible?
[04:28] <bogyit> hi
[04:29] <eps> ubuntu was installed using the server switch
[04:29] <AbdulSpiegel> Can anyone help me with getting my sound confiqured?
[04:29] <ramza3> I have ubu on my thinkpad, ...nice
[04:29] <inva|id> eps: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:29] <MikeStyle> omg can anyone tell me where my C HEADER FILES are located?!?!?!?
[04:29] <eps> thanks inva|id :)
[04:29] <eps> thought it was some thing like that
[04:29] <sklav> /usr/include
[04:29] <sklav> MikeStyle, c headers are usually located in usr/include
[04:30] <MikeStyle> ok but now my installer is telling me this
[04:30] <MikeStyle> The header files in /usr/include are generally for C libraries, not for the
[04:30] <MikeStyle> running kernel. If you do not have kernel header files in your /usr/src
[04:30] <MikeStyle> directory, you probably do not have the kernel-source package installed. Are yousure that /usr/include contains the header files associated with your running
[04:30] <MikeStyle> kernel?
[04:30] <DShepherd> MikeStyle: dont paste here
[04:30] <ramza3> is there a site for Sun's java
[04:30] <MikeStyle> sorry
[04:30] <ramza3> a debian/ubu install
[04:30] <sklav> this si where kernel sourcce is located /usr/src/
[04:30] <varsendagger> hello
[04:30] <MikeStyle> ramza3, sun/java is in synaptic
[04:30] <luis_> HOLA
[04:31] <luis_> hello
[04:31] <blizzo> ramza3: java.sun.com ? it comes with an installer
[04:31] <sklav> just make sure kernel sources are installed it not by default
[04:31] <ashok> please tell me how to see my laptop battery status in KDE
[04:31] <blizzo> ramza3: sdk or jre?
[04:32] <sklav> jre is runtime
[04:32] <sklav> sdk is development
[04:32] <ramza3> blizzo, sdk
[04:32] <ramza3> blizzo: yea I could do it off the sun site, but I figure a one-line install would be a little easier, I am lazy
[04:33] <sklav> ramza3, then you must be an admin hehe
[04:33] <ramza3> sklav, developer; same thing
[04:33] <sklav> hehe
[04:33] <blizzo> ramza3: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp but its easy to install ;)
[04:33] <ramza3> fine
[04:33] <dabaR> a few lines...
[04:33] <synackuator> gnomebaker sucks
[04:34] <varsendagger> heyyah
[04:34] <sklav> wonderrs what happens when you cross redhat with ubuntu?
[04:34] <hydroksyde> ubuntuhat?
[04:34] <ashok> please tell me how to see my laptop battery status in KDE
[04:34] <ramza3> sklav, you get a pretty but stuckup broad
[04:34] <sklav> rubuntu
[04:34] <sklav> hehe sounds like my wife
[04:34] <ramza3> sklav, I use fedora at work, ubu at home
[04:34] <AbdulSpiegel> Can anyone help me with getting my sound confiqured?
[04:35] <hydroksyde> the packaging would say "build by the best software practitioners for the good of all enterprises who pay us money"
[04:35] <sklav> im using ubuntu on 2 stations at the moment
[04:35] <HighHopes> Hello! I've just installed Ubuntu 5.04 in server mode (basic installation). I want to know how to install xorg (using apt-get).
[04:35] <dabaR> ashok: have you tried #kubuntu?
[04:35] <inva|id> HighHopes: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:35] <dabaR> HighHopes: do you want to install any desktop environment?
[04:35] <ramza3> can I setup for automatic login
[04:35] <HighHopes> inva|id: Thanks!
[04:35] <blizzo> ramza3: maybe blackdown would be ok? ;)
[04:36] <sklav> i like the apt but im still getting used to it
[04:36] <HighHopes> dabaR: Yes... I would like to install FluxBox
[04:36] <ashok> nope. how should i connect to #Kubuntu ?
[04:36] <dabaR> HighHopes: then dont listen to that guy.
[04:36] <sklav> been on redhat /centos/fedora for so long
[04:36] <inva|id> HighHopes: then ignore my suggestion :)
[04:36] <sklav> i figured i try something new
[04:36] <varsendagger> HighHopes, you need to install a package called
[04:36] <dabaR> ashok: you can try. They are a little slow to respond, but they will likely know.
[04:36] <HighHopes> inva|id: no problem
[04:36] <varsendagger> just a sec
[04:36] <phizz> I installed mplayer-2.0pre7try2 and tried to view a wmv file, and I'm getting this error: FATAL: Could not initialize video filters (-vf) or video output (-vo).
[04:36] <HighHopes> varsendagger: I wait :)
[04:36] <dabaR> HighHopes: just try installing fluxbox using aptitude. sudo aptitude install fluxbox.
[04:36] <dabaR> see what it will install. likely evetrything necessary.
[04:37] <HighHopes> dabaR: I'll do that...
[04:37] <Guile> hi all , ubuntu have a dialer? like kpp on kde?
[04:37] <HighHopes> dabaR: What is aptitude ? apt-get is the same?
[04:37] <_jason> phizz, are you sure you had all of the dependencies?
[04:37] <phizz> I'm using breezy.
[04:37] <dabaR> AbdulSpiegel: does not work? no sound what so ever?
[04:37] <ashok> dabar, how shld i connect to those servers ?
[04:37] <hydroksyde> Ubuntu is taking ages to install :|
[04:37] <phizz> I added this to my command line, too, with no results: -vo xv
[04:37] <dabaR> HighHopes: well, no, otherwise they would have one name.
[04:38] <dabaR> HighHopes: aptitude is a little diff. I dont feel like typing that much, though.
[04:38] <AbdulSpiegel> debar: oh yes, i cant hear anything m8
[04:38] <AbdulSpiegel> debar
[04:38] <HighHopes> dabaR: Thanks
[04:38] <phizz> aptitude search fluxbox
[04:38] <Owner_> halo there
[04:38] <phizz> aptitude install <package name>
[04:38] <varsendagger> xserver-xorg-core
[04:39] <varsendagger> HighHopes, i figured this out by apt-cache search
[04:39] <dabaR> varsendagger: one would think that package would be a dependency of fluxbox, what do you think
[04:39] <HighHopes> varsendagger: Thanks! ... Might I need to change standard Ubuntu apt-get repositories files_
[04:39] <HighHopes> ?
[04:39] <HighHopes> varsendagger: Thanks! ... Might I need to change standard Ubuntu apt-get repositories files?
[04:40] <varsendagger> HighHopes, dabaR yeah it should be, but i recall having a problem with that before
[04:40] <dabaR> HighHopes: do you like GUI tools better? Check out synaptic. My assignment walkthrough for synaptic is at http://dabar.selfip.org/synaptic.html
[04:41] <AbdulSpiegel> debaR: can you help me please?
[04:41] <varsendagger> HighHopes, once you install xorga and fluxbox just type startx /usr/bin/fluxbox
[04:41] <varsendagger> in the cli
[04:41] <HighHopes> dabaR: I have only bash installed.. hehe .. text mode console
[04:41] <varsendagger> way to go installing ubuntu server only,
[04:41] <Imexius> Can someone help me out i keep on getting this error when trying to compile qtella "error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
[04:41] <Imexius> "
[04:42] <FliesLikeABrick> Imexius,  you need to install g++
[04:42] <dabaR> HighHopes: oh, ya. Im not following the conversation.
[04:42] <FliesLikeABrick> apt-get install g++
[04:42] <HighHopes> dabaR: I want to know where fluxbox is... because in my standard apt-get repositories it is not.. :(
[04:42] <HighHopes> dabaR: no problem>!
[04:42] <Imexius> k thanks lol
[04:42] <dabaR> !info fluxbox
[04:42] <ubotu> fluxbox: (Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.9.12-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 757 kB, Installed size: 2684 kB
[04:42] <rixth> Okay I have something really really weird going on.
[04:42] <Imexius> hmm it says its already installed
[04:42] <Guile> hi all, ubuntu (gnome) have a dialer , like kppp on kde?
[04:42] <rixth> traceroute to 192.168.1.200 (192.168.1.200), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
[04:42] <dabaR> I dont know how to do thatm AbdulSpiegel. Do you know the card model yet?
[04:42] <rixth>  1  e1.aknx3.orcon.net.nz (192.168.0.1)  0.840 ms  0.586 ms  0.570 ms
[04:42] <rixth>  2  60.234.8.15 (60.234.8.15)  82.193 ms  111.183 ms  83.476 ms
[04:42] <rixth>  3  192.168.1.200 (192.168.1.200)  109.859 ms  87.462 ms  91.127 ms
[04:42] <dabaR> HighHopes: its in universe.
[04:43] <rixth> My router, an external IP, then back to an internal on
[04:43] <rixth> e
[04:43] <ordinary> say whats a dapper?
[04:43] <HighHopes> dabaR: Universe... ? ... what? ... hehe
[04:43] <ordinary> dapper dingo?
[04:43] <ordinary> nuthr ubuntu distro??
[04:43] <rixth> Orbman, Dapper Drake
[04:43] <Imexius> flieslikeabrick: it says g++ is already installed
[04:43] <rixth> Orbman, yes
[04:43] <varsendagger> HighHopes, fore some reasin after playing around with fluxbox and others WM and then trying to install gnome didin't seem to work
[04:43] <superman9> are there anyway to get the packet with ftp site ?
[04:43] <FliesLikeABrick> Imexius,  i'm not sure then, sorry
[04:43] <ordinary> Will it give me SPecIAl PowerS?
[04:43] <dabaR> Imexius: install build-essential if you have not.
[04:43] <dabaR> no, ordinary powers
[04:44] <varsendagger> HighHopes, have you ever edited sources.list before
[04:44] <eternalist> This Apt has Special Cow Powers
[04:44] <Madpilot> ordinary: dapper is the current dev build, it might well break your Ubuntu currently...
[04:44] <HighHopes> varsendagger: I haven't edited it yet... I don't know what to put there.. hehe
[04:44] <varsendagger> !repos
[04:44] <ubotu> repos is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[04:44] <dabaR> Guile: there is a gnome-ppp
[04:44] <Guile> whats the gnome dialer on ubuntu?
[04:44] <ordinary> My ubuntu's already broken.  My wireless card doesn't work anymore.
[04:44] <Guile> ok
[04:44] <Guile> ty.
[04:44] <varsendagger> do you have Breezy? or hoary?
[04:44] <van_klein> any body can help me
[04:45] <varsendagger> van_klein, yeah
[04:45] <blizzo> ordinary: but drapper is really really unstable ;)
[04:45] <ordinary> BUT I HAVE TO STAY IN THE GARAGE TO INTERNET :S
[04:46] <varsendagger> HighHopes, did you get that deal on repos?
[04:46] <dabaR> HighHopes: just open /etc/apt/sources.list in an editor, it is self explanatory.
[04:46] <van_klein> hi varsendagger => i wanna inst dvd plyr to my hoary, r thr any think way beside type sudo apt get from console
[04:46] <eps> suggestions for a good dcpp (dc++) client?
[04:46] <dabaR> !+info build essential
[04:46] <ubotu> Updating ubuntu files... please wait.
[04:46] <Imexius> thanks just out of curiosity though, what does build-essential actually do?
[04:46] <ubotu> Package 'build essential' does not exist.
[04:46] <dabaR> !+info build-essential
[04:46] <ubotu> Updating ubuntu files... please wait.
[04:46] <ubotu> build-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 11.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[04:47] <HighHopes> dabaR: Ok.. Thanks>!
[04:47] <AbdulSpiegel> debaR: is there anything i can do to find out what sound kind of sound card i have?
[04:47] <HighHopes> varsendagger: I have only text-mode console and I can't copy-paste.. hehe
[04:47] <Techie_dude> How do you unpack a rpm file??????
[04:47] <dabaR> Imexius: basically, it is a "package" of build related tools
[04:47] <blanky> what's the program called, deborphan, command line program that gives you optinos of deleteing programs
[04:47] <blizzo> van_klein: synaptic ?
[04:47] <Imexius> techie_dud: use alien to turn the rpm into a .deb file
[04:47] <varsendagger> van_klein, this is linux, the command line is one of the reasnons to use it, but enough of my rampage just install gmplayer with synaptic
[04:47] <_jason> Techie_dude, what file is this?
[04:48] <Techie_dude> and what would the command be for example
[04:48] <varsendagger> highhopes
[04:48] <varsendagger> uhh
[04:48] <varsendagger> sorry
[04:48] <dabaR> AbdulSpiegel: yes. try lspci |grep audio
[04:48] <dabaR> lspci |grep audio
[04:48] <varsendagger> Techie_dude, sudo apt-get install alien
[04:48] <dabaR> Techie_dude: what is the package you got an rpm for?
[04:48] <Imexius> techie_dude alien -d <file name>
[04:49] <varsendagger> and then alien -i   <filename> will install it and -d will unpack it
[04:49] <van_klein> thnks man but my pc is not connect to intrnt so, i use intrnt cafe
[04:49] <maikeru> sudo alien -di whatever.rpm
[04:49] <varsendagger> HighHopes, what are you having problems with?
[04:49] <AbdulSpiegel> debaR: do i type sudo before it?
[04:49] <dabaR> no, you do not.
[04:49] <maikeru> for alien you do
[04:49] <maikeru> to install
[04:49] <HighHopes> varsendagger: no problem! I uncommented Universe related lines in sources.list
[04:50] <maikeru> unless you have your entire system chmod'd all funkily, in which case you need to fix that cause it's a serious security problem
[04:50] <varsendagger> cool
[04:50] <dabaR> AbdulSpiegel: try typing: "dab", then press tab in this chat program.
[04:50] <AbdulSpiegel> debaR: nothing seems to be happening
[04:50] <dabaR> HighHopes: reload the package list with sudo aptitude update
[04:50] <AbdulSpiegel> dabaR, your name
[04:50] <HighHopes> dabaR: OK
[04:50] <maikeru> just sudo alien -di file.rpm and wait, it'll do it's thing and eventually finish
[04:51] <Imexius> dabaR: thanks again your a life saver, even saved my problem with compling a test "c" program
[04:51] <dabaR> AbdulSpiegel: good. post the output of: "lspci" and "amixer" to pastebin.
[04:51] <varsendagger> HighHopes, if you aren't into gnome or kde you should look at afterstep and enlightenment   both pretty and cool, i'm using fubuntu right now
[04:51] <dabaR> Imexius: I am glad you got the file compiled with free software.
[04:51] <AbdulSpiegel> dabaR, nothings happening when i type lspci..
[04:51] <dabaR> AbdulSpiegel: and you press enter too? this is in a terminal.
[04:52] <AbdulSpiegel> dabaR, yup, i type: lspci |grep audio into the terminal and hit enter
[04:52] <dabaR> try just the lspci, and post the output to paste.ubuntulinux.nl. Also "amixer".
[04:53] <AbdulSpiegel> dabaR, so i just type: lspci. then i just type amixer and paste them both?
[04:53] <hydroksyde> why is ubuntu install downloading ubuntu-thesaurus from security.ubuntu.com???
[04:53] <van_klein> hey guys , can u recomment dvd plyr for linux ?
[04:54] <dabaR> paste output of both commands to paste.ubuntulinux.nl, please.
[04:54] <HighHopes> varsendagger: what is fubuntu_
[04:54] <HighHopes> varsendagger: what is fubuntu?
[04:54] <nanang> say hi
[04:54] <nanang> first time install ubuntu : it's cool
[04:54] <ricardo> hi
[04:55] <varsendagger> HighHopes,  ---- not a reall name but like kde is kubnuntu and Xfce is xubuntu
[04:55] <dabaR> nanang: we are glad you like it.
[04:55] <varsendagger> nanang, the support fo ubuntu is unreall, have you used other linux distros?
[04:55] <AbdulSpiegel> dabaR,  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5318
[04:56] <HighHopes> varsendagger: ah! hehe ... so.. I'd like to install a lightweight desktop in my base ubuntu ... which one do you recommend? This is an old computer... PIII 450
[04:56] <nekostar> heh
[04:56] <nekostar> im baaack
[04:56] <nekostar> turns out i dont realy like gentoo
[04:56] <nekostar> D:
[04:57] <van_klein> varsendagger, how to boost the booting ?
[04:57] <dabaR> AbdulSpiegel: what ubuntu do you use? 5.10 Breezy? If you do not know, check your /etc/issue file.
[04:57] <Tedd> I'm still here, sorry.
[04:57] <Tedd> And I still need help.
[04:57] <Tedd> Gnomad2, getting an error.
[04:57] <varsendagger> van_klein, what do you mean?
[04:57] <AbdulSpiegel> dabaR, ok i will check, also when i typed 'amixer' i got an error
[04:58] <DShepherd> hey
[04:58] <Madpilot> Tedd: if you actually say what sort of error you're getting, you might be more likely to get help...
[04:58] <van_klein> i have old proccesr Piii 800 its so long to bootup
[04:58] <sklav> p3 800 is old?
[04:58] <varsendagger> HighHopes, i like fluxbox, the folks over in #fluxbox are pretty cool, they have a good wiki too
[04:58] <DShepherd> is there a way to adjust the default icon size on the desktop?
[04:58] <pozdiy> any program to test the amount of videomemory?
[04:59] <van_klein> ups soory sklav ...
[04:59] <varsendagger> i like it because you can configure stuff easier in text mode
[04:59] <Madpilot> pozdiy: lshw will show you that - run it in the terminal
[04:59] <van_klein> i buy it 5 jaars a go
[04:59] <pozdiy> Madpilot: tnx
[04:59] <sklav> hehe
[04:59] <dabaR> AbdulSpiegel: what about "aplay -l" ? post that.
[04:59] <HighHopes> varsendagger: Good! I like fluxbox too... I use it in other machines... so ... what I must install first? ... xorg? ... which package? ..
[04:59] <sklav> im kidding i just remeber when p3 800 was top of the line
[04:59] <AbdulSpiegel> dabaR, it says 5.04 horay hedge hog
[05:00] <varsendagger> the one that is like x-server-xserv or somehting
[05:00] <Madpilot> pozdiy: lshw might not actually be installed by default; you can install it thru apt-get or Synaptic if it isn't
[05:00] <AbdulSpiegel> dabaR, when i type aplay -l, it says there is no souncard found
[05:00] <Tedd> Madpilot: I did before. it was the "usb_set_configuration: operation not permitted."
[05:00] <eternalist> Fluxbox is great if your machine is t3h sux
[05:00] <sklav> van_klein, what is the issue?
[05:00] <dabaR> HighHopes: using the apt system, all your dependencies for running a program(even fluxbox) should automatically be installed for you when you install the package. install fluxbox is my suggestion.
[05:00] <eternalist> Tedd, you need to be root
[05:00] <varsendagger> just a sec i apllready found it   ( i did this earlier
[05:00] <Tedd> eternalist: Elaborate, please?
[05:00] <Madpilot> Tedd: whatever command you used, add "sudo" in front of it, and try that
[05:00] <eternalist> yes ^
[05:01] <varsendagger> HighHopes, yeah listen to dabaR
[05:01] <van_klein> sklav,  yea my spec pIII 800, MB TUSL2C, 128 mb sdram
[05:01] <Tedd> I did this all in Synaptic.
[05:01] <varsendagger> HighHopes, if it doesn't work then come back
[05:01] <emb> every once in a while my cpufreq gets stuck on its minimal level, i have tried using cpufreq to change it and it is still staying at minimal level. Where is the config file to set it to run at max speed when the AC power is plugged in?
[05:01] <HighHopes> dabaR: I'll try that.. right now :) THANKS
[05:01] <HighHopes> varsendagger: Ok...
[05:01] <Tedd> Installed Gnomad2 and the needed thingies.
[05:01] <Tedd> Right through Synaptic.
[05:01] <HighHopes> you're really kind people!
[05:02] <sklav> 128 megs of ram is all you have?
[05:02] <varsendagger> HighHopes, the ubuntu community is great it is what i love about ubuntu
[05:02] <van_klein> sklav, yees
[05:02] <sklav> when you say slow to boot does it take minutes?
[05:02] <varsendagger> and i also got Mplayer running effortlessly
[05:02] <van_klein> its klein isnt it ?
[05:03] <botbuilder> Yey finnally got my install working!
[05:03] <dabaR> AbdulSpiegel: check it.
[05:03] <dabaR> !+sound
[05:03] <ubotu> [sound]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[05:03] <HighHopes> varsendagger: I really appreciate your help. I want to learn as much as possible, and be able to help other people like you all do.
[05:04] <botbuilder> Turns out some messed up sound card, modem card or a SCSI card was screwing it up
[05:04] <navreet> any idea when the next release is coming?
[05:04] <botbuilder> I don't need any of them so i took them out
[05:04] <botbuilder> anyway
[05:04] <botbuilder> I'd like to control the commandline from my windows pc
[05:04] <Tedd> Any ideas?
[05:04] <Madpilot> navreet: April 2006
[05:04] <van_klein> no just ein minute, but thas to long i think
[05:04] <botbuilder> any good way?
[05:04] <HighHopes> varsendagger, dabaR: I love old machines -I don't know why- and I like the way they work with Linux...
[05:04] <botbuilder> I've heard it has something to do with "ssh"
[05:04] <varsendagger> yteah i've learned a ton i've only used ubutnu for aobut a month
[05:05] <dabaR> HighHopes: I use openbox, check it out one day.
[05:05] <sklav> van_klein, are u using graphical?
[05:05] <Madpilot> botbuilder: ssh, yes. I think the Windows client for that is "putty"
[05:05] <van_klein> sklav, can u recomment what size for my spec to /boot , / and swap ?
[05:05] <botbuilder> highhopes: Yeah, i just installed it on a 200mhz, 64mb machine ^_^
[05:05] <botbuilder> madpilot t- ok, thanks
[05:05] <HighHopes> dabaR: What is Openbox?
[05:05] <HighHopes> botbuilder: Great!
[05:05] <botbuilder> Yeah, gonna use it as a server
[05:05] <van_klein> yes i using grapichal
[05:05] <botbuilder> otherwise it would just sit around
[05:06] <botbuilder> doing nothing
[05:06] <blanky> hey is anyone here using kdevelop
[05:06] <sklav> swap should 2 times ram minimum
[05:06] <DShepherd> with config editor, are the changes applied immediately?
[05:06] <sklav> 128Megs = 256Megs of swap
[05:06] <dabaR> HighHopes: try googling, I dont feel like looking up the URl.
[05:06] <van_klein> sklav, and then others ?
[05:06] <sklav> and make sure no services are running that you do not need
[05:06] <sklav> depends on your hdd
[05:06] <sklav> how big is it
[05:07] <emb> my cpu speed seems to get locked on the lowest level, anyone know why this happens?
[05:07] <van_klein> 5 mg
[05:07] <HighHopes> dabaR: Openbox is like XOrg or Xfree_
[05:07] <HighHopes> dabaR: Openbox is like XOrg or Xfree?
[05:07] <van_klein> soory 5 gb
[05:07] <sklav> ok
[05:07] <dabaR> HighHopes: it works on both.
[05:07] <HighHopes> ok... great
[05:07] <sklav> 5 gigs i would do the following 256 for swap and the rest to /
[05:07] <simonvallore> Hello how can i setup a shell on my ubuntu
[05:08] <sklav> and make sure no services are runnign that are not needed
[05:08] <eternalist> Have you guys seen this new Digital Soldier called santos or something like that
[05:08] <HighHopes> dabaR: I made an "apt-get install fluxbox" and many dependencies were installed.. but.. xorg wasn't installed :(
[05:08] <sklav> i recommend the default install and add packages as you go
[05:08] <eternalist> it has mathematical functions for all the joints and mucles in its body
[05:08] <van_klein> sklav, how big for boot , soory i ask u so much i new fur this
[05:08] <simonvallore> Hello how can i setup a shell on my ubuntu ?
[05:08] <sklav> dont make a /boot
[05:09] <sklav> just make a / and a swap
[05:09] <blanky> how can I add 'beagled' to my startup services (gnome)
[05:09] <Madpilot> blanky: System menu -> Preferences -> Sessions
[05:09] <Techie_dude> what is the package name for jpeglib.h????????
[05:09] <synackuator> does anyone else have trouble copy/pasting even with the clipboard daemon running?
[05:09] <sklav> you have five gigs so you  need the space but if you really want a boot dont make it bigger than 50 megs
[05:09] <blanky> thanks
[05:09] <synackuator> like when you close apps it doesn't save the clipboard contents
[05:09] <van_klein> sklav, thanks so much
[05:10] <AbdulSpiegel> dabaR,  how do i edit a file so i can change stuff in it, whenever i open it it says read-only
[05:10] <blanky> I typed in beagled for the startup command, but what should I put for order?
[05:10] <sklav> van_klein, make sure no services are running
[05:10] <blanky> leave it at 50?
[05:10] <Techie_dude> sklav do you know tha package name for jpeglib.h
[05:10] <sklav> cause with 128megs of ram things will be slow
[05:10] <van_klein> and then grub loader take it to windows partion or linux partion ?
[05:11] <irvin> van_klein, grub installs on the mbr
[05:11] <dabaR> AbdulSpiegel: use sudo in front of the command.
[05:11] <van_klein> yes
[05:11] <Techie_dude> DOes ANYONE KNOW THE PACKAGE Name for jpeglib.h
[05:11] <dabaR> !+find jpeglib.h
[05:11] <Madpilot> Techie_dude: stop shouting, and go search Synaptic for it... or packages.ubuntu.com
[05:11] <varsendagger> hey is there some kind of easy way to use cvs and what is the deal with snapshots?
[05:12] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'jpeglib.h' (5 shown): (/usr/include/mozilla/jpeg/jpeglib.h) in devel/mozilla-dev ;; (/usr/include/nvu-1.0/jpeg/jpeglib.h) in universe/devel/nvu-dev ;; (/usr/include/mozilla-thunderbird/jpeg/jpeglib.h) in mail/mozilla-thunderbird-dev ;; (/usr/include/jpeglib.h) in libdevel/libjpeg62-dev,universe/libdevel/libjpeg-mmx-dev ;; (/usr/src/ecos/packages/services/gfx/mw/v2_0/src/jpeg-6b/jpeglib.h) in universe/devel/ecos.
[05:12] <Techie_dude> i didn't mean to use caps that was an accident
[05:12] <varsendagger> Techie_dude, what are you trying to install
[05:12] <emb> Techie_dude i think its  libjpeg,  not sure though
[05:12] <zenlunat1c> Are there any cairo themes out in package form yet?  For example clearlooks-cairo?
[05:12] <AesopFable> Finally I get in. >_<
[05:12] <AesopFable> Morning, all.
[05:12] <blanky> does anyone here have kdevelop installed?
[05:12] <misfit_toy> night AesopFable
[05:12] <dabaR> good morning
[05:12] <Techie_dude> i'm getitng camsource
[05:12] <Adross> does the ipod video work with ubuntu?
[05:13] <van_klein> Madpilot, Techie_dude: stop shouting, and go search Synaptic for it... or packages.ubuntu.com <= this fur pc without internet connection ?
[05:13] <Techie_dude>  ididn't mean to use caps
[05:13] <sklav> wow deja vu
[05:13] <Tedd> Hmm
[05:13] <AesopFable> Adross: It should, just mount it as a USB drive, I think.
[05:13] <Tedd> I think I found my problem
[05:13] <Tedd> I need libusb 0.1.8
[05:13] <AbdulSpiegel> dabaR,  how do i restart the sound server?
[05:13] <Madpilot> van_klein: I missed the "no net connection" part, if it was mentioned earlier...
[05:13] <dabaR> varsendagger: tell HighHopes
[05:13] <Tedd> I only have 0.1.4 (it's theonly one on synaptic)
[05:14] <varsendagger> HighHopes, what is up, i was;t paying attention
[05:14] <Adross> AesopFable: k, just wondering, prob gonna get the neuros 442 if it turns out alright
[05:14] <dabaR> AbdulSpiegel: I do not know, you can try "killall esd && nohup esd&"
[05:14] <Adross> because i know that will work in linux
[05:14] <AesopFable> I've got a question myself... Is it possible to dual boot with Windows XP if /boot is on different physical drive than XP?
[05:14] <Adross> yes
[05:14] <varsendagger> ok ok i know now
[05:14] <varsendagger> HighHopes,
[05:14] <Adross> grub just has to point to it
[05:14] <Adross> sudo update grub
[05:14] <Adross> or the boot program
[05:15] <Tedd> OK
[05:15] <Tedd> I downloaded 1.0.11
[05:15] <Tedd> How do I install it
[05:15] <Tedd> Where do I put this thing
[05:15] <AesopFable> Adross: K, thanks. =D Just got the 5.10 CDs in the mail.
[05:15] <varsendagger> xserver-xorg  this is the X.org X server
[05:15] <AesopFable> They aren't joking when they say 4-6 weeks, Ja?
[05:15] <varsendagger> hight hopes
[05:15] <Tedd> Can anybody tell me how to install it
[05:15] <AesopFable> Tedd: What are you trying to install?
[05:16] <Adross> AesopFable: yeh, should work then, at install
[05:16] <nekostar> it seems that w32deb is dead
[05:16] <Tedd> Libusb 0.1.11a
[05:16] <Adross> grub should detect xp
[05:16] <HighHopes> varsendagger: thanks! ... I thought that
[05:16] <Amaranth> !w32codecs
[05:16] <drcode> HI all
[05:16] <ubotu> methinks w32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[05:16] <nekostar> is there another repository of some sort for it?
[05:16] <AesopFable> Tedd: libUSB, eh? Just run it through SYnaptics, that's a recent enough version I should think.
[05:16] <levander> I thought the LiveCD and the Install CD was supposed to be one and the same for Breezy.  Does anybody else remember reading the same on the ubuntu web site?
[05:16] <HighHopes> varsendagger: and I'm downloading it and dependencies
[05:16] <Tedd> No it's not.
[05:16] <Tedd> Sorry.
[05:16] <Tedd> I need at least 0.1.8
[05:16] <drcode> any one mybe know free housting , where I Can put php and MYSQL or postsql web site?
[05:16] <Tedd> It only has 0.1-4
[05:16] <AesopFable> Tedd: Ah crap. >_< Hrm, try the Universe?
[05:16] <Madpilot> levander: I think they're going to do that (one CD) for Dapper
[05:17] <Tedd> I did a full-search.
[05:17] <Tedd> Only came up with an un-recent version.
[05:17] <levander> Madpilot: that's what they said for breezy
[05:17] <AesopFable> You need to tell it specifically to search the Universe.
[05:17] <HighHopes> varsendagger: Now that's installed... How can I start it?
[05:17] <levander> Madpilot: know what i mean?
[05:17] <AesopFable> Add some other APT repositories as well, lemme find a web address that lists them...
[05:17] <hydroksyde> !!!!! vi is a link to nano in ubuntu????
[05:17] <ubotu> okay, hydroksyde
[05:17] <Madpilot> levander: yeah, I know - but not everything can be done in 6 months, I guess
[05:17] <Tedd> AesopFable, how would I do that
[05:17] <nekostar> aesome thanx Amaranth
[05:17] <Amaranth> !repos
[05:17] <ubotu> repos is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[05:17] <nekostar> *awesome
[05:17] <AesopFable> Tedd: Just a minute.
[05:18] <levander> Madpilot: I'm gonna go look around the wiki and see if they made any progress on it that's been reported or what...
[05:18] <AesopFable> Tedd: Hmm, the most recent version is 1.10 0.o
[05:18] <dabaR> hydroksyde: no.
[05:18] <AesopFable> tedd: Or at least, thats what the sourcefourge page has
[05:18] <simonvallore> Hello
[05:18] <tavo> hola
[05:19] <AesopFable> '0.1.10a'
[05:19] <simonvallore> how do i turn ssh on
[05:19] <Tedd> AesopFable: Yessum.
[05:19] <simonvallore> so a user can login to a shell
[05:19] <dabaR> the ssh server?
[05:19] <hydroksyde> dabaR:I just worked that out, wasn't really paying attention
[05:19] <Tedd> That's what I'm trying to install.
[05:19] <AesopFable> Tedd: Grab it here: http://libusb.sourceforge.net/download.html#stable
[05:19] <hydroksyde> i ran sudo visudo
[05:19] <Tedd> I don't know where to put the folder.
[05:19] <AesopFable> 0.o
[05:19] <iluciv> grr still can't get this drive to be seen
[05:19] <AesopFable> Yeh, that would be a problem
[05:19] <Tedd> AesopFable, I already have it- I just need to know where to put the folder.
[05:19] <_jason> ubotu, tell simonvallore about ssh
[05:19] <theCore> what is the name in put to login into the wiki ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserPreferences
[05:19] <dabaR> hydroksyde: visudo uses $EDITOR.
[05:20] <hydroksyde> yeah
[05:20] <dabaR> theCore: your rosetta user name.
[05:20] <oNe^somewhere> can some1 help me with wine ?
[05:20] <misfit_toy> !grrr
[05:20] <levander> Madpilot: you don't know what that project, merging the install cd and the livecd, is called do you? i'm having trouble finding it
[05:20] <ubotu> grrr is probably I'm so sleepy tonite and it's the same things over and over
[05:20] <Madpilot> theCore: try the email address you used to register w/ Launchpad
[05:20] <AesopFable> Tedd: I can't get my Linux box up right now, so I can't check the tarball... But look for an INSTALL or a README file...
[05:20] <dabaR> stop drinking it. next.
[05:20] <AesopFable> Tedd: The way Ubuntu does libs has always seemed odd to me, so I can't think of it off the top of my head.
[05:21] <Madpilot> levander: I don't know, sorry. maybe ask on #ubuntu-devel?
[05:21] <oNe^somewhere> i have errors with it
[05:21] <dabaR> simonvallore: you want to install an ssh server so someone can log into your computer over the Internet? the package is called openssh-server
[05:21] <levander> Madpilot: do you really remember the project i am talking about?  just trying to figure out if i'm delusional or what
[05:21] <theCore> Madpilot: worked, thx
[05:22] <AesopFable> Tedd: If your in the CLI, the best way to read those files is probably the 'more' command.
[05:22] <simonvallore> Darbar how do i change the root password
[05:23] <oNe^somewhere> any1 ?
[05:23] <_jason> levander, I remember some mention of that somewhere.  Not sure if it was for breezy... but we could both be delusional
[05:23] <hydroksyde> how can I change the default ntp server of ntp.ubuntulinux.org?
[05:23] <AesopFable> oNe^somewhere: What's your trouble?
[05:23] <simonvallore> dabaR,  how do i change the root password
[05:23] <oNe^somewhere> i followed the instructions but have a netconnection error
[05:23] <oNe^somewhere> and wininet
[05:24] <dabaR> simonvallore: read the http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo page. root is disabled in Ubuntu, actually this means there is no password set for the root account, use sudo when you need admin access.
[05:24] <levander> _jason: maybe it was just beefing up the rescue system of the install cd?  i'm having trouble remembering now.  i do have a question up in #ubuntu-devel asking
[05:24] <AesopFable> dabaR: Why not just enable the root if you need it? Any particular reason?
[05:24] <iluciv> drumline: hi again, do you think that fstab having the wrong listings would be a problem i.e. the dvd drive is listed in fstab as /dev/hdb yet the harddrive I want mounted in system/administration/Disks is listed as /dev/hdb
[05:24] <simonvallore> dabaR, well thats odd cuz when i type my password in root terminal it seems to work
[05:24] <dabaR> AesopFable: the web page is tehre.
[05:24] <simonvallore> o_O
[05:24] <AesopFable> dabaR: Yeh, caught that right after I asked. >_<
[05:24] <dabaR> simonvallore: read the page.
[05:25] <van_klein> any body the packages for dvd player in synaptic ?
[05:25] <wanglei> hi, everyone , when i run a software , it prompt lacking libswt-pi-gtk-3138.so, but i don't know which package include it , how can i check it out?
[05:25] <AesopFable> Tedd: Are you still there?
[05:25] <dabaR> iluciv: is it a problem for you?
[05:25] <DrBair> anyone firmiliar with testdisk?
[05:25] <sklav> later all
[05:25] <sklav> im calling it a night
[05:25] <Techie_dude> okay i don't have a paste bord or what ever so i'm just going to paste this cuz it don't make odds or ends
[05:25] <wanglei> is anybody can help i ?
[05:25] <Techie_dude> gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I..     -g -O2 -I/usr/include/libxml2 -Wall -D_REENTRANT -DPREFIX="\"/usr/local\"" -DPKGLIBDIR="\"/usr/local/lib/camsource\"" -DSYSCONFDIR="\"/usr/local/etc\"" -c `test -f mod_handle.c || echo './'`mod_handle.c
[05:25] <AesopFable> Tedd: From what I can find, it seems that al youd need to do is just the /configure and a make, and it'll shove it where it needs to be.
[05:25] <Techie_dude> mod_handle.c: In function mod_close:
[05:25] <Techie_dude> mod_handle.c:310: error: label at end of compound statement
[05:25] <Techie_dude> make[1] : *** [mod_handle.o]  Error 1
[05:25] <Techie_dude> make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/jared/Desktop/camsource-0.7.0/src'
[05:25] <Techie_dude> make: *** [install-recursive]  Error
[05:25] <AesopFable> ACK
[05:25] <Techie_dude> i got that error when i tried to do a make install....any idea
[05:26] <levander> Techie_dude: gotta use paste for that, don't flood
[05:26] <Techie_dude> what do yo mean
[05:26] <dabaR> !dvd
[05:26] <ubotu> rumour has it, dvd is "DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available on http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl   See also !libdvdcss2"
[05:26] <dabaR> !libdvdcss2
[05:26] <ubotu> I heard libdvdcss2 is to enable DVD playback, read and use this local file for libdvdcss2 /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh   Don't have this file? Install "libdvdread3"
[05:26] <iluciv> dabaR: umm yes as I want to be able to see/acess the harddrive but I'm unbale to do so and the mount command doesn't work
[05:26] <wanglei> hi, everyone , when i run a software , it prompt lacking libswt-pi-gtk-3138.so, but i don't know which package include it , how can i check it out?
[05:26] <dabaR> iluciv: then ifx that, see whether it fixes, and come back and answer your question. What do you say to that idea?
[05:26] <levander> Techie_dude: use past in the future, but there's just a syntax error in that c file, if it's third party code, i'd throw it out, unless you really need it, then you gotta fix the source
[05:27] <Techie_dude> i need that program
[05:27] <Techie_dude> it is camsource
[05:27] <van_klein> ubotu, the packages name is libdvdread3 ?
[05:27] <ubotu> okay, van_klein
[05:27] <Techie_dude> what do i do to fix it
[05:27] <Flying-Penguin> INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: Could not get the plugin manager
[05:27] <Flying-Penguin> System error?:: Success
[05:27] <dabaR> wanglei: aptitude search libswt
[05:27] <wanglei> ok thanks :)
[05:27] <Flying-Penguin> I cant open firefox... I cant live, pleas help
[05:27] <wanglei> thanks dabaR
[05:27] <van_klein> ubotu, thanks
[05:27] <iluciv> dabaR: ?? ifx?? do you mean edit fstab file and see if that works
[05:27] <ubotu> de rien, van_klein
[05:28] <dabaR> van_klein: he is a bot
[05:28] <Techie_dude> lavander what would i do to fix it
[05:28] <dabaR> iluciv: yes.
[05:28] <van_klein> ahahaha... i dont know
[05:28] <iluciv> dabaR: ok
[05:28] <oNe^somewhere> AesopFable,  can i show u the errors somewhere ?
[05:29] <wanglei> hi
[05:29] <blanky> hey guys, I was making an 'alias', but how can I make it so it always remembers it? even if I restart?
[05:29] <levander> anybody know if the ubuntu livecd includes parted?
[05:29] <AesopFable> oNe^somewhere: Email me at 'jacoballison@gmail.com', so we don't spam the chan
[05:29] <Techie_dude> does anyone know any goodprograms for streaming my webcam to a website ....sorta like camsource
[05:29] <dabaR> blanky: put the alias in your ~/.bashrc file. do you understand that?
[05:29] <blanky> yes buddy :)
[05:29] <blanky> thank you! *hug*
[05:30] <wanglei> hi dabaR, I issue "aptitude search libswt",but it shows me some info about libswt, I want to get some message that which packge includes libswt-pi-gtk.so file
[05:30] <blanky> hey dabaR buddy, anywhere in the file? :)
[05:30] <dabaR> wanglei: sudo aptitude install libswt-gtk-3.1-jni. Now, off course, you can use any other program that installs, like synaptic, or apt-get to install that same package.
[05:30] <twidget> Stupid question: Is a .ps file similar or the same as a PDF file?
[05:30] <blanky> dabaR, it works :D
[05:31] <dabaR> wanglei: /msg ubotu find libswt-pi-gtk-3138.so
[05:31] <_jason> twidget, similar but not the same
[05:31] <dabaR> blanky: good.
[05:31] <wanglei> hi dabaR, thanks , but i've  already installed libswt-get-3.1-jni
[05:32] <P8ntKid> Firefox just froze. How do i close it without it deleting all the bookmarks and stuff?
[05:32] <twidget> _jason, If I send a .ps file to my sister running Windows XP, will she be able to open and print it?
[05:32] <dabaR> Hi, wanglei, that is the package that has that file. what program gives you that error?
[05:32] <wanglei> a im software
[05:32] <oNe^somewhere> AesopFable,  it's sent
[05:32] <_jason> twidget, she will probably need to install Ghostscript, but yes
[05:32] <dabaR> P8ntKid: killall firefox
[05:32] <wanglei> a IM software
[05:32] <P8ntKid> dabaR: Ya, but that will delete my bookmarks
[05:32] <botbuilder> ok, what's the syntax for an ssh client?
[05:33] <dabaR> wanglei: which one? how did you install it?
[05:33] <dabaR> botbuilder: in a console?
[05:33] <botbuilder> yep
[05:33] <cenopec> just watched hitchhikers guide to the galaxy
[05:33] <botbuilder> ssh <name of computer that will access>
[05:33] <botbuilder> ?
[05:33] <P8ntKid> dabaR: Well, i least i think it will. If i do xkill then click it. my bookmarks and all firefox settings get deleted or something.
[05:33] <botbuilder> or what
[05:33] <cenopec> underrated movie in my opinion
[05:33] <dabaR> botbuilder: ssh username@host. man ssh for more details.
[05:33] <cenopec> a lot of people said it sucked
[05:33] <AesopFable> oNe^somewhere: OK, I've got it, gimme a minute to take a look at it.
[05:33] <botbuilder> dabar - i mean a client
[05:33] <dabaR> P8ntKid: delete saved bookmarks? no, it will kill the process.
[05:33] <AesopFable> oNe^somewhere: You don't have any DLL files.
[05:33] <twidget> thanks
[05:34] <wanglei> just download, and unpack it with no-jre version, because i've already install jre1.5.0 :)
[05:34] <dabaR> botbuilder: and I answered that too.
[05:34] <botbuilder> Trying to access it from windows using putty
[05:34] <botbuilder> ...
[05:34] <P8ntKid> dabaR: Its still open. and still frozen
[05:34] <oNe^somewhere> what does that mean then lol
[05:34] <AesopFable> oNe^somewhere: Theres a package of them around somewhere, let me look for it. You could just grab them out of the System32 folder on a windows, but usually that reallllyyyy cluttered
[05:34] <dabaR> which one, wanglei
[05:34] <dabaR> P8ntKid: killall mozilla-firefox
[05:34] <wanglei> lumaqq
[05:34] <AesopFable> oNe^somewhere: DLL = Dynamic Link Library, it's the Windows equivalant of a lib.
[05:35] <P8ntKid> dabaR: Sais mozilla-firefox: no process killed
[05:35] <oNe^somewhere> yeah i know that ...but why does the forum not mention u need them 1st
[05:35] <DShepherd> Does anyone know how to save newly added website links to gnome-dictionary?
[05:35] <dabaR> P8ntKid: ps -u in a terminal, and post that to paste.ubuntulinux.nl if you dont know what to do after that.
[05:36] <AesopFable> oNe^somewhere: Ah... crap. >_< I cant find it. It should have been installed with your WINE.
[05:36] <dabaR> wanglei: no idea what to do, or why it does not work. it is a java program?
[05:36] <AesopFable> Anyone know where the WINE DLL package is? Is it on the APT somewhere?
[05:36] <Amaranth> AesopFable: It's a part of wine
[05:36] <Amaranth> AesopFable: They're dll.so files though, iirc.
[05:36] <AesopFable> Amaranth: That's what I though, but the error oNe^somewhere pretty much confirms that he's missing them...
[05:36] <musik> hda1 is owned by root, group is root.....how do i make it writable for myself? its fat32
[05:37] <P8ntKid> dabaR: Ok, it closed, but not i get a box that tells me to choose a user profile with firefox
[05:37] <van_klein> the packages name fur mp3player ? any body can help
[05:37] <oNe^somewhere> !wine
[05:37] <Amaranth> AesopFable: Missing one that WINE doesn't have, maybe.
[05:37] <P8ntKid> dabaR: And when i choose the one i want. It sais it is in use.
[05:37] <Amaranth> !find wine
[05:37] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'wine' (8 shown): libwine ;; libwine-cil ;; libwine-dev ;; wine ;; wine-dev ;; wine-doc ;; winesetuptk ;; xwine.
[05:37] <dabaR> P8ntKid: and that is exactly why I do not use firefox. I am sorry, I do not know how to fix it.
[05:37] <musik> hda1 is owned by root, group is root.....how do i make it rwx for myself? its fat32
[05:37] <P8ntKid> dabaR: What do you use then?
[05:37] <AesopFable> oNe^somewhere: Try re-downloading the source from http://winehq.com/ and compiling from that. It should work better, anywase.
[05:38] <dabaR> P8ntKid: you can actually kill some profiles under ~/.firefox. I use epiphany.
[05:38] <van_klein> !mp3
[05:38] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, totally, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats.
[05:38] <van_klein> !mp3player
[05:38] <ubotu> van_klein: I don't know, could you explain it?
[05:38] <blanky> lol ubotu
[05:38] <dabaR> van_klein: it is shown on that page.
[05:38] <AesopFable> Amaranth: His compile was failing during the make, so find won't... erm, find it.
[05:38] <blanky> van_klein, what would you like ubotu to do?
[05:38] <darknature> ok when i go to sites to see a video it says "no Picture"
[05:38] <P8ntKid> dabaR: How would i kill those profiles?
[05:38] <musik> hda1 is owned by root, group is root.....how do i make it rwx for myself? its fat32
[05:38] <blanky> AesopFable, sudo apt-get build-essential
[05:38] <dabaR> the player for mp3s is, on the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats page
[05:38] <oNe^somewhere> ok so how do i get rid of this wine i have ...has it put files all over my pc i mean ?
[05:38] <darknature> is there anyway to fix this
[05:38] <zenlunat1c> Are there any cairo themes out in package form yet?  For example clearlooks-cairo?
[05:39] <HighHopes> How can I configure Xorg resolution?
[05:39] <Amaranth> zenlunat1c: Only in dapper.
[05:39] <Amaranth> !fixres
[05:39] <ubotu> it has been said that fixres is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:39] <Amaranth> HighHopes: ^^
[05:39] <van_klein> !xmms
[05:39] <ubotu> somebody said xmms was to get xmms to work in Ubuntu Hoary, set the output plugin to eSound (right-click on the XMMS window, then choose Options -> Preferences)
[05:39] <HighHopes> Amaranth: oh! :) GREAT
[05:40] <aSt3raL> what can i use to connect my ipod to ubuntu?
[05:40] <AesopFable> oNe^somewhere: Did you catch that? '<blanky> AesopFable, sudo apt-get build-essential
[05:40] <zenlunat1c> Amaranth: oh really? is it safe to upgrade to dapper?
[05:40] <dabaR> P8ntKid: go from "ls ~/.mozilla onward.
[05:40] <aSt3raL> anyone know?
[05:40] <Amaranth> zenlunat1c: No.
[05:40] <dabaR> yes we know.
[05:40] <blanky> Wait, you guys are trying to compile wine?
[05:40] <AesopFable> aSt3raL: Lots of ways...
[05:40] <blanky> comon man, you guys are in a debian based world now
[05:40] <dabaR> !ipod
[05:40] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[05:41] <van_klein> !o2xda
[05:41] <ubotu> van_klein: Bugger all, i dunno
[05:41] <P8ntKid> dabaR: I know where the profiles are.  But i dont know how to kill them.
[05:41] <aSt3raL> thanks
[05:41] <AesopFable> blanky: To my knowledge, yeh, that's what he's trying to do. It's failing on a DLL dependancy.
[05:41] <blanky> http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[05:41] <dabaR> whatever syncing is.
[05:41] <van_klein> !o2xda2
[05:41] <ubotu> van_klein: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[05:41] <blanky> oNe^somewhere, http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[05:41] <AesopFable> blanky: Yeh, that's what I reccomended he grab.
[05:41] <dabaR> delete them.
[05:41] <dabaR> P8ntKid: ^
[05:41] <P8ntKid> dabaR: But then my bookmarks are all gone...
[05:41] <blanky> dabaR, syncing means to be able to see the files on your ipod and move files to it etc., so both have the same information
[05:41] <oNe^somewhere>  Invalid operation build-essential
[05:41] <blanky> sync (synchronize)
[05:42] <wanglei> hi dabaR ?:)
[05:42] <blanky> oNe^somewhere, sudo apt-get build-essential
[05:42] <AesopFable> Thats a new one
[05:42] <blanky> sorry, im so stupid
[05:42] <van_klein> ini bot koq ya ada ada aja
[05:42] <blanky> oNe^somewhere, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:42] <oNe^somewhere> ty :)
[05:42] <geargolem> how do I duplicate a rigged character without the actions of the first?
[05:42] <van_klein> ada yang dari Bali teman
[05:42] <blanky> oNe^somewhere, I told you dude, dont compile it, damn, http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[05:42] <P8ntKid> How do i run epiphany?
[05:42] <blanky> you wanna install it first bud?
[05:42] <blanky> or do you have it installed
[05:42] <P8ntKid> I did.
[05:43] <_jason> P8ntKid, have you installed it?
[05:43] <P8ntKid> Yes.
[05:43] <dabaR> P8ntKid: it is in your apps menu then.
[05:43] <P8ntKid> I dont use gnome.
[05:43] <blanky> try typing 'epiphany' in the console
[05:43] <_jason> P8ntKid, should in internet section of menu
[05:43] <P8ntKid> blanky: That doesnt work.
[05:43] <P8ntKid> _jason: I dont use gnome.
[05:43] <blanky> and you're sure it's installed
[05:43] <P8ntKid> Yes. I just installed it with apt.
[05:43] <blanky> is that how it's even epselled? lol
[05:43] <dabaR> P8ntKid: true, they may be gone, I dunno really, I told you, I do not use firefox, so I do not know.
[05:43] <blanky> it's not firefox, it's epiphany :)
[05:43] <_jason> P8ntKid, install "epiphany-browser"
[05:43] <P8ntKid> dabaR: Its ok. ITs happened to me before.
[05:44] <_jason> P8ntKid, epiphany package is a game
[05:44] <blanky> P8ntKid, there you go, type 'epiphany-browser' in your console
[05:44] <blanky> LOL
[05:44] <blanky> i love _jason
[05:44] <LexiCon> why do I get a "command a.out not known" error in the terminal when trying to run the "a.out" compiled c file? :\
[05:44] <P8ntKid> _jason: Oh, lol that is wy.
[05:44] <dabaR> wanglei: whats up?
[05:44] <blanky> Lexicon
[05:44] <P8ntKid> blanky: I know..
[05:44] <LexiCon> yes?
[05:44] <blanky> LexiCon, ./a.out
[05:44] <LexiCon> ah
[05:44] <LexiCon> instead of just a.out?
[05:44] <blanky> I love this channel...I feel...special
[05:44] <dabaR> musik: did you figure it out?
[05:45] <blanky> yes
[05:45] <AesopFable> sdfdsf
[05:45] <AesopFable> Gah.
[05:45] <AesopFable> Hmm
[05:45] <blanky> P8ntKid, you know what ? :)
[05:45] <musik> dabaR: no:(
[05:45] <blanky> figure what out?
[05:45] <LexiCon> err...
[05:45] <musik> dabaR: just tell me format of chown command.......
[05:45] <blanky> LexiCon, didn't work?
[05:45] <P8ntKid> blanky: How to run apps...
[05:45] <LexiCon> nope....says "no such file or directory" :P
[05:45] <blanky> P8ntKid, well sorry for suggesting, I thought if you were that smart you'd find out how to run a just installed program on your own
[05:45] <dabaR> man chown, musik . to change a whole drive for you to be able to use it, chown does not do that. is it a ntfs drive?
[05:45] <blanky> LexiCon, type ls and then see if your program is in your current directory
[05:45] <AesopFable> Hmm, how does one add new stuff to a menu if you compiled it?
[05:45] <LexiCon> even though it's right there with ls
[05:45] <LexiCon> yeah
[05:45] <LexiCon> it's there
[05:46] <blanky> okay
[05:46] <blanky> so it's called a.out right?
[05:46] <LexiCon> yeah
[05:46] <Techie_dude> What does the program WINE do ?
[05:46] <blanky> compiled obviously in g++ (stupid quesiton)
[05:46] <LexiCon> gcc
[05:46] <blanky> it provides sort of dummy files to make programs think they're in windows
[05:46] <LexiCon> should it be g++?
[05:46] <blanky> instead of calling it an 'emulator', they hate that
[05:46] <eps> grr no one can browse my smb shares from windows without putting in a un/pw (I have browsing enabled and everything) ... I just want it so that people can go //computer/share and be able to read/write to it
[05:46] <blanky> LexiCon, g++ is gcc with C++ arguments enabled, is your file in C or C++
[05:46] <LexiCon> C
[05:47] <LexiCon> 0.o
[05:47] <LexiCon> old school, I know.
[05:47] <blanky> okay, and you did gcc example.c -o example
[05:47] <blanky> C is cool, no problem with it :)
[05:47] <vbgunz> is it possible to symlink a 100 files in a directory to another directory? I have a text editor which came in a tgz package. I have that package in ~/editor but wish to symlink it to /usr/share/editor... Anybody know how?
[05:47] <wanglei> in other words, how can i check out,which deb package includes libswt-pi-gtk.3182.so?  what command i should issue? :)
[05:47] <dabaR> blanky: dont do stuff like: P8ntKid, well sorry for suggesting, I thought if you were that smart you'd..."
[05:47] <LexiCon> yep
[05:47] <blanky> np boss
[05:47] <Sionide> ok i have too many RSS feeds for Firefox to handle with Live Bookmarks now, anyone recommend any decent RSS software for Ubuntu ??
[05:47] <dabaR> blanky: it is not in accord to the code of conduct, and it makes people feel stupid.
[05:48] <blanky> LexiCon, okay so you made sure and you have no compile errors right?
[05:48] <LexiCon> and I tried running that....no dice
[05:48] <cdubya> vbgunz, man ln
[05:48] <blanky> dabaR, okay, no problem, just felt kinda weird with him snappy at me helping him
[05:48] <LexiCon> the file's compiling fine, because I'm getting the new file w/ -o
[05:48] <wanglei> hi dabaR :)
[05:48] <blanky> okay, and did you try sudo ./a.out ?
[05:48] <dabaR> wanglei: I told you, that package for sure has that file. Is lumaqq a java program?
[05:48] <vbgunz> cdubya: nice, thank you bro!
[05:49] <ubuntu918234> hello
[05:49] <LexiCon> same deal
[05:49] <LexiCon> :P
[05:49] <dabaR> blanky: you should try ls.
[05:49] <ubuntu918234> where is the help IRC channel?
[05:50] <blanky> dabaR, hmm?
[05:50] <Sionide> ubuntu918234, this is it
[05:50] <blanky> ubuntu918234, here it is
[05:50] <ubuntu918234> oh
[05:50] <LexiCon> :P
[05:50] <blanky> :)
[05:50] <blanky> LexiCon, what was that?
[05:50] <ubuntu918234> then where is general stuff
[05:50] <ubuntu918234> ?
[05:50] <ubuntu918234> :0
[05:50] <ubuntu918234> :)
[05:50] <blanky> LexiCon, oh okay so the same things happen
[05:50] <LexiCon> yeah, same thing happens w/ sudp
[05:50] <blanky> LexiCon, hey you have build-essential right?
[05:50] <LexiCon> *sudo
[05:50] <dabaR> blanky: cause, to find out what files he has in the dir, you would use ls.
[05:50] <LexiCon> yep
[05:50] <blanky> dabaR, yeah I told him to do that :) and he said it's there :)
[05:50] <wanglei> hi dabaR when i encounter missing xxx file , how can i know which package include it ?   what command can do the search ? :)
[05:51] <dabaR> ubuntu918234: You can ask anything ubuntu related here.
[05:51] <blanky> LexiCon, hmm...this is weird, you wanna try from the beginning again?
[05:51] <musik> dabaR: its fat32
[05:51] <ubuntu918234> alright thanks
[05:51] <dabaR> wanglei: did you read the private message ubotu sent you?
[05:51] <HighHopes> Sorry, could someone repeat me how to change Xorg screen resolution?
[05:51] <LexiCon> sure...
[05:51] <LexiCon> hmmm...
[05:51] <blanky> make a file, basicly just output a line of text, then compile it again, this time add -o test at the end of the command
[05:51] <dabaR> HighHopes: did you read that page you were sent to by Amaranth ?
[05:51] <LexiCon> I'll just make a stupid little hello world prog...see if I can get it working with that...
[05:52] <dabaR> LexiCon: try ls -l a.out
[05:52] <ubuntu918234> why do they give you multimedia players on live cds when you can't play files from hard drive?
[05:52] <HighHopes> dabaR: I've lost the URL when I changed from text console to Xorg
[05:52] <dabaR> see whether it is x enabled.
[05:52] <dabaR> read the pm from ubotu then, HighHopes
[05:52] <van_klein> tell me please..  command fix mount to my windows partition , thanks man
[05:52] <dabaR> van_klein: so you have a windows partition that you can only read with the root account?
[05:52] <LexiCon> yeah, x is enabled
[05:53] <ardchoille> I installed moin from synaptic, but nothing new appears in /var/www/ What do I need to do now?
[05:53] <HighHopes> uff..
[05:53] <LexiCon> -rwxr-xr-x
[05:53] <HighHopes> if I just could change to private message window in IRSSI ..
[05:53] <HighHopes> snif
[05:53] <LexiCon> ok
[05:53] <LexiCon> got the hello world...
[05:53] <dabaR> alt+<windowNumber>
[05:53] <Necrosan_> Is there any voice supported chat clients for ubuntu?
[05:53] <dabaR> HighHopes^
[05:53] <Necrosan_> MSN, AIM, anything really..
[05:53] <Sionide> ubuntu918234, i believe it is possible to mount the hard drive - so you could play media files off it, in any case the live cd is meant to represent almost exactly what ubuntu is like when installed, the major differences being speed..
[05:53] <HighHopes> dabaR: in text console that worked, now in X no...
[05:53] <Sionide> Necrosan_, skype works for me
[05:54] <van_klein> dabaR, yees
[05:54] <LexiCon> compiled with "gcc hello.c -o hello"
[05:54] <dabaR> HighHopes: irssi is only command line.
[05:54] <Sionide> Necrosan_, you'll need to download the .deb file from skype.com and do dpkg -i skype.deb
[05:54] <blanky> Necrosan_, try automatix to install skype, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66563
[05:54] <HighHopes> aha ...
[05:54] <vbgunz> cdubya: how do I keep a man page on screen after pressing q to quit?
[05:54] <HighHopes> I'll install XChat
[05:54] <Sionide> or do what blanky said
[05:54] <dabaR> van_klein: post your /etc/fstab file to paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:54] <bellot> tem algum brasileiro ae?
[05:54] <_jason> !br
[05:54] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.
[05:54] <LexiCon> ok...blanky, ya there?
[05:54] <blanky> bellot: #ubuntu-br
[05:54] <wanglei> hi dabaR i issue /msg ubotu libswt , it is no reponse :)
[05:55] <blanky> LexiCon, yeah, sorry, what does it say when you do ./a.out again?
[05:55] <dabaR> wanglei: register your nickname: /msg nickserv help register
[05:55] <LexiCon> same deal
[05:55] <LexiCon> a.out :command not known
[05:55] <LexiCon> 0.o
[05:55] <cyphase> *sigh*
[05:55] <dabaR> LexiCon: no, you specified an output file name as being hello
[05:55] <cyphase> Linux needs a good open source MMORPG
[05:55] <LexiCon> err...yeah
[05:55] <LexiCon> lol
[05:55] <LexiCon> meant to say hello: no such....
[05:55] <LexiCon> etc.
[05:55] <LexiCon> :P
[05:56] <dabaR> cyphase: The gnu/linux operating system needs that?
[05:56] <dabaR> cyphase: would it be free software?
[05:56] <cyphase> lol
[05:56] <ubuntu918234> does mounting the hard drive require a program featured in the live cd?
[05:56] <cyphase> free software, open source, whatever
[05:57] <bellot> It forgives, I already was in # ubuntu-br and nobody obtained to help me! what it happens is that my plate of video onboard (VT 8378) is not accepting a resolution of bigger video that 640x480! Somebody can help me?
[05:57] <dabaR> ubuntu918234: it is a simple one line command, and the command is a built in utility, called mount.
[05:57] <oNe^somewhere> blanky,  have u got a minute ?
[05:57] <_jason> ubotu, tell bellot about fixres
[05:57] <ubuntu918234> oh, cool. :)
[05:57] <dabaR> bellot: read private message
[05:57] <ardchoille> ubotu, tell bellot about fixres?
[05:57] <_jason> bellot, o ubotu mandou-te uma mensagen mais e em ingles
[05:58] <LexiCon> ...
[05:58] <bellot> _jason, dabaR
[05:58] <blanky> Lexicon: make a .cpp file and copy this in it http://pastebin.com/446997
[05:58] <bellot> tanks
[05:58] <blanky> then save it as test.cpp
[05:58] <blanky> then do g++ test.cpp -o test
[05:58] <pbransford> is there a way to make X stop 'stealing' the screen when it starts/restarts?
[05:58] <blanky> oNe^somewhere, yes, of course
[05:58] <Amaranth> !tell bellot about fixres
[05:59] <blanky> ubuntu918234, umount -l /dev/hda
[05:59] <bellot> Amaranth tanks
[05:59] <blanky> I think...er, wth is the -l for, i forgot
[05:59] <dabaR> blanky: for what?
[05:59] <blanky> i just remember there's one there
[05:59] <blanky> to mount a hd?
[05:59] <ubuntu918234> dabaR: how much is a good amount of space to allocate in a partition to ubuntu, cosidering it won't be my main computer for big programs
[05:59] <blanky> oh no, taht's unmount haha
[05:59] <dabaR> I mean, what would you do with that command?
[05:59] <dabaR> with umount?
[05:59] <oNe^somewhere> kk ... i decided to add the repositorie for wine but i use the i686 kernel ... do i need the source repository or will the i386 work fine ?
[05:59] <dabaR> heh:)
[05:59] <blanky> ubuntu918234, sudo mount /dev/hda
[05:59] <blanky> i think?
[05:59] <ubuntu918234> blanky: thats the code no matter what kind of hardrive i have?
[06:00] <blanky> yes, if it's your first hard drive you're trying to mount
[06:00] <dabaR> ubuntu918234: no, not so.
[06:00] <blanky> and it only has one partition
[06:00] <blanky> ask dabaR he's smarter :D
[06:00] <dabaR> that is not the command. do you need to mount a hard drive?
[06:00] <dabaR> not smarter, I just did that before.
[06:00] <ubuntu918234> lol
[06:00] <blanky> yep he does, he's in the live cd
[06:00] <ubuntu918234> me too
[06:00] <dabaR> ubuntu918234: you would like to mount a hard drive>?
[06:00] <blanky> ubuntu918234, I ment you were in it...rofl
[06:01] <dabaR> oNe^somewhere: try the i386, afaik it should work.
[06:01] <ubuntu918234> dabaR: sure
[06:01] <oNe^somewhere> ok ty
[06:01] <ubuntu918234> blanky: oh, nevermind then :)
[06:01] <van_klein> what is diferent between them ,Libdvdcss2 &
[06:01] <van_klein> libdvdread3 ?
[06:01] <blanky> oNe^somewhere, did you try the i386? I've heard i386 works in i686, you jsut wont get the advantage, im not sure though, try
[06:01] <pbransford> libdvdread3 has a nifty script in the doc dir to install dcss
[06:01] <blanky> van_klein, im not sure, most likely 3 is newer than 2 (duh), would you like to install them?
[06:02] <ubuntu918234> btw, how can you tell I'm in live cd?
[06:02] <dabaR> ubuntu918234: can you post from a terminal(Apps>Sys Tools>Terminal) to paste.ubuntulinux.nl the output of "sudo fdisk -l"?
[06:02] <pbransford> and it allows all the other dvd stuff other than decryption
[06:02] <dabaR> You said before.
[06:02] <blanky> ubuntu918234, your name, and you told us before :)
[06:02] <van_klein> yes blanky
[06:02] <ubuntu918234> blanky: lol
[06:02] <ubuntu918234> dabaR: probably not
[06:02] <dabaR> van_klein: one is legal the other is not everywhere, I think.
[06:02] <pbransford> Screw patents :D
[06:02] <ubuntu918234> dabaR: this is my second time with linux...
[06:02] <dabaR> ubuntu918234: go ahead and try.
[06:02] <blanky> van_klein: try automatix, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66563
[06:03] <blanky> van_klein, note, it doesn't only install libdvdcss3, but other tools as well to support dvd viewing
[06:03] <blanky> pbransford, i agree
[06:03] <van_klein> ok like what ?
[06:03] <ubuntu918234> im in terminal
[06:03] <pbransford> blanky, unfortunatly I'm a USian
[06:03] <blanky> gstreamer plugins and stuff, nothing harmful, just letting you know
[06:03] <dabaR> blanky: check out what ubotu thinks about automatix.
[06:03] <blanky> pbransford, me to...
[06:03] <ubuntu918234> dabaR: now what?
[06:03] <blanky> !automatix
[06:04] <aSt3raL> how do you get to the enlightenment themes aget you install the package?
[06:04] <aSt3raL> *after
[06:04] <blanky> whoever wants to find out what automatix is, type !automatix
[06:04] <dabaR> ubuntu918234: open a terminal.
[06:04] <blanky> there's also easyubuntu, but people prefer automatix over it for some reason
[06:04] <pbransford> i figure since im not p2ping, bootlegging, or ripping, theres no reason to go after me.
[06:04] <ubuntu918234> dabar: i did
[06:05] <LexiCon> blanky, just making sure, but I have to delete the number headers at the front of each line after I paste, right?
[06:05] <pbransford> bigger fish out there :) like grandma next door
[06:05] <dabaR> ubuntu918234: type in sudo fdisk -l
[06:05] <blanky> LexiCon, of course buddy, sorry it does that automatically in pastebin
[06:05] <dabaR> paste the line here that says ntfs in it.
[06:05] <LexiCon> :P
[06:05] <aSt3raL> anyone know how to  use enlightenment?
[06:05] <ubuntu918234> dabaR: and that's it?
[06:05] <gimmulF|GoAGNES> !ssh
[06:05] <ubotu> ssh is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SSHHowto
[06:05] <dabaR> ubuntu918234: no, that is how we find out what drive the windows drive is.
[06:05] <blanky> ubuntu918234, to paste the line, highlight the text, right click, click copy, then paste in here
[06:05] <blanky> otherwise if you do CTRL-C, it's something else
[06:06] <blanky> if im not mistaken, a termination signal
[06:06] <Fushi> Yeah
[06:06] <dabaR> aSt3raL: yes.
[06:06] <dabaR> ubotu: tell aSt3raL about enlightenment
[06:06] <blanky> aSt3raL, is your question specific to ubuntu? just wondering, cause you might get more help at #enlightenment
[06:06] <dabaR> ubotu: tell aSt3raL about ask the bot
[06:07] <Glassius> i'm just starting out with linux, and i need to set up user mode linux to be able to have access to both the net and the network at the same time, are there any howtos on how to specifically install it on ubuntu, or will a guide from a different distro work(with some changes of course)
[06:07] <ubuntu918234> dabaR: this works on laptops right?
[06:07] <blanky> hey dabaR does ubotu tell everyone about ask the bot work? that'd be cool, then everyone could help themselves
[06:07] <dabaR> blanky: :) your optimistic...
[06:07] <pbransford> !tell ubotu
[06:07] <blanky> Glassius, what is it that you want to install?
[06:07] <dabaR> *re
[06:07] <blanky> :)
[06:07] <pbransford> !tell everyone about ubotu
[06:08] <dabaR> ubuntu918234: paste the output of that fdisk -l to paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:08] <Glassius> blanky: user mode linux...virtual enviroments
[06:08] <pbransford> blanky, is that what your looking for?
[06:08] <blanky> pbransford, yeah but it didnt work haha
[06:08] <blanky> Glassius, do you have a link?
[06:08] <blanky> Glassius, to anything about it?
[06:08] <pbransford> unless some poor user has the username everyone
[06:08] <jmehrer> wondering if this is an appropriate room for a total linux newbie to ask some questions?
[06:08] <jmehrer> (or will  i just annoy?)
[06:09] <_tcc> How can I help.
[06:09] <blanky> pbransford, i tried changine my name to 'everyone' and it said 'error, eranious name' or whatever
[06:09] <blanky> jmehrer, it might be, are you running linux?
[06:09] <oNe^somewhere> blanky, or dabaR  ... i managed to install winetools off the forum before and am wonderin how do i uninstall that version to make way for the 1 from the repository
[06:09] <blanky> jmehrer, er, ubuntu?
[06:09] <Glassius> blanky: don't have any specific links, my friend is running it on his gentoo box, and i need to run it on my box too
[06:09] <_tcc> How can I help with ubuntu etc.
[06:09] <ubuntu918234> dabaR: is sais /dev/hdal and it's HPFS/NTFS
[06:09] <_tcc> Is there any ways I can do this.
[06:10] <_tcc> I want to aid a project.
[06:10] <pbransford> _tcc, use it and report bugs?
[06:10] <blanky> Glassius, okay, but I need some reference to kno9w what it is, you told me but I must know more about it
[06:10] <blanky> Glassius, what's it called again?
[06:10] <Glassius> http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/
[06:10] <blanky> Glassius, thanks
[06:10] <blanky> _tcc, what type of help, you might find more information on www.ubuntulinux.org , your help is greatly appreciated :)
[06:11] <dabaR> ubuntu918234: "sudo mkdir /mnt/win && sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/win && man mount" After you read the manual, the hard disk will have been mounted.(well, it will have been mounted even before that,.
[06:11] <_tcc> I was already there but I came here to ask too. :)
[06:11] <varsendagger> what is the process for downloading source from a cvs?
[06:11] <ubuntu918234> dabaR: how do I just look at the manual?
[06:11] <dabaR> !+info uml-utilities
[06:11] <ubotu> Updating ubuntu files... please wait.
[06:12] <ubotu> uml-utilities: (User-mode Linux (utility programs)), section universe/otherosfs, is extra. Version: 20040406-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 45 kB, Installed size: 260 kB
[06:12] <blanky> Glassius, any other manual/tutorial/howto for another distro should work, unless they're using different types of packages (RPMS, or ebuilds/emerge)
[06:12] <dabaR> ubuntu918234: man mount is the manual part.
[06:12] <LexiCon> blanky...it didn't do anything 0.o
[06:12] <blanky> Glassius, if you run into any problems come here, also remember you use sudo instead of logging into/typing su for root
[06:12] <LexiCon> it compiled alright to test
[06:12] <blanky> LexiCon, what do you mean by that,
[06:12] <ubuntu918234> so i just type in 'man mount' ?
[06:12] <blanky> yeah? and then you typed ./test and what happened
[06:12] <LexiCon> but then nothing happens when I type in "test" or "/test"
[06:12] <LexiCon> nothing...
[06:12] <LexiCon> it just went to the next line
[06:12] <jp_> how can I install java sdk 1.5 for PPC ?
[06:12] <LexiCon> no errors
[06:13] <dabaR> ubuntu918234: in a terminal, yes, to get the manual.
[06:13] <dabaR> Glassius: do you have that package above installed?
[06:13] <dabaR> LexiCon: ./test?
[06:13] <LexiCon> yeah
[06:13] <blanky> LexiCon, listen carefully, I mean, READ carefully, ignore the quotes but listen to what is in them, './test', with a period and a front slash
[06:13] <blanky> not test or /test , only test if it's in your bin directory where it'd be global
[06:14] <LexiCon> oooooooooooooooh
[06:14] <LexiCon> 0.o
[06:14] <blanky> ROOOFFFFFFLLLLL
[06:14] <blanky> it's okay buddy
[06:14] <ubuntu918234> dabaR: thank you very much :)
[06:14] <blanky> *hug*
[06:14] <DaOne> hey guys, can anyone here help me with changing the default loading OS after unstalling Ubuntu?
[06:14] <ubuntu918234> blanky: thank you very much :)
[06:14] <ubuntu918234> i gtg
[06:14] <blanky> ubuntu918234, no problem, but it was dabaR who helped you :)
[06:14] <ubuntu918234> and thanks again for the help
[06:14] <Glassius> dabaR: my box isn't up and running at the moment, just gathering info up front, since i pretty much need UML for it to be of any use...
[06:14] <ubuntu918234> bye
[06:14] <van_klein> thanks fur information friend , tot sien
[06:14] <LexiCon> I kept thinking you were putting . in front to let it get through the irc protocol :P
[06:14] <LexiCon> silly me 0.o
[06:14] <blanky> DaOne, what do you intend on doing again? setting up windows as loading or ubuntu
[06:14] <nExy> omg i need help!!!!!!!!! hi everyone
[06:14] <nExy> Can't find a suitable libao driver. (Is device in use?)
[06:14] <LexiCon> awesome
[06:14] <LexiCon> ok...
[06:14] <LexiCon> my program works now...
[06:15] <LexiCon> :D
[06:15] <LexiCon> thanks so much, blanky ^^
[06:15] <LexiCon> <3
[06:15] <Zilenos> no firefox 1.5 in breezy?????
[06:15] <nExy> this happens when i run mgp321
[06:15] <blanky> no problem buddy :)
[06:15] <Glassius> what kernel is 5.10 running again?
[06:15] <dabaR> nExy: is esd running?
[06:15] <nExy> how do i check that ?
[06:15] <nExy> im a newb
[06:15] <Madpilot> Zilenos: not yet - have you read the /topic?
[06:15] <Zilenos> yeah
[06:15] <dabaR> Glassius: well, that package is the start point for installation of UML on ubuntu, it seems.
[06:16] <DaOne> blanky, currently Ubuntu is the default loading OS.  i want to change it to Windows.  i've done it before but i cannot remember how.
[06:16] <blanky> LexiCon, I'm pretty stupid sometimes too :P look ( http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=96937 ), I suggest www.ubuntuforums.org if no one can help you here buddy, they're great
[06:16] <dabaR> nExy: type esd in a terminal, and press enter.
[06:16] <Zilenos> what does that mean?
[06:16] <blanky> DaOne, you have GRUB installed right?
[06:16] <nExy> bash: esd: command not found
[06:16] <Zilenos> no update from official servers & backports??
[06:16] <DaOne> blanky, i believe so, yes
[06:16] <blanky> DaOne, go into the console, type 'sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst'
[06:16] <blanky> DaOne, tell me if it opens a file with text in it
[06:17] <DaOne> thankyou very much blanky
[06:17] <blanky> DaOne, er, you know what, to make things easier...what version of ubuntu do you have
[06:17] <DaOne> :D
[06:17] <jp_> how can I install java sdk 1.5 for PPC ?
[06:17] <dabaR> nExy: esd by itself says that?
[06:17] <nExy> yes
[06:17] <Zilenos> no update from official servers & backports??
[06:17] <DaOne> blanky, im currently using hoary.  breezy hasent arrived yet (i dont have broadband yet :()
[06:17] <blanky> DaOne, are you okay? or do you still need help
[06:17] <dabaR> jp_: can you install any other java for ppc?
[06:17] <blanky> DaOne, ah, so you're waiting for it to ship to you aye?
[06:18] <Madpilot> Zilenos: like it says in the topic, not yet...
[06:18] <Glassius> dabaR: thanks, i'll look into it when i get the box up and running
[06:18] <DaOne> blanky, yes i am.  it should be here in about a week
[06:18] <Glassius> gonna do some reading in the mean time :P
[06:18] <nExy> apt-get install esd ???
[06:18] <blanky> DaOne, check if you have a program called boot in system > preferences or system > administration or applications > system tools
[06:18] <jp_> dabaR: well I just installed ubuntu 5.1 and the default is java 1.4.2
[06:18] <Zilenos> Madpilot, what if you install it through automatix, if they make it?
[06:18] <dabaR> nExy: should be installed by default, as far as I know.
[06:18] <blanky> DaOne, if not, then lets go back to your text file, but if it's there it should be easier to do
[06:19] <blanky> dabaR and I make a great team :')
[06:19] <nExy> i installed
[06:19] <nExy> as server
[06:19] <Madpilot> Zilenos: no idea, I wouldn't go near automatix myself, esp. not for something like FF1.5...
[06:19] <blanky> nExy, so what's your problem bud?
[06:19] <dabaR> jp_: you have java on the PPC? I do not think there is a PPC tiger java for linux, but check the java web site, to start, and google a little.
[06:19] <blanky> nExy, just wondering, but was it your intention to install as server?
[06:19] <Zilenos> Madpilot, there a HOWTO for FF1.5 already and it works great
[06:19] <robotgeek> jp_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPPC
[06:19] <Madpilot> Zilenos: have a read here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=96595&highlight=Firefox+1.5
[06:20] <nExy> when i try running mgp321 bla la.mp3 i get this error that says cant not find a suitable libao driver (is the device in use?)
[06:20] <blanky> DaOne, scroll up if you missed any text
[06:20] <blanky> libao? I think that's sound...hey bud, was it your intention to install as server?
[06:20] <nExy> yes
[06:20] <nExy> i have a pbx system
[06:20] <blanky> ah okay
[06:21] <blanky> so you want to install mpg123
[06:21] <nExy> at the house and i wanted this to also supply the on hold music via a ssh console
[06:21] <dabaR> nExy: oh, ya, a server install will not install esd. You couuld try installing that. or turn off the other device playing music.
[06:21] <blanky> mgp123 sorry
[06:21] <iluciv> :(
[06:21] <nExy> i have already installed it
[06:21] <nExy> how do i turn off the other device ?
[06:22] <dabaR> blanky: that jmehrer guy never asked his annoying newb question, eh?
[06:22] <dabaR> I mean, the other program.
[06:22] <dabaR> welcome, robotgeek. Night all.
[06:23] <blanky> dabaR, yeah lol, I asked him but he didnt say anything
[06:23] <blanky> dabaR, you're leaving? :(
[06:23] <dabaR> heh
[06:23] <robotgeek> blanky: me?
[06:23] <dabaR> no, the other guy.
[06:23] <iluciv> how does one list all the drives mounted on system from the command line
[06:24] <nExy> what do i need to do
[06:24] <blanky> lol
[06:24] <_jason> iluciv, mount
[06:24] <blanky> i'm gonna be uh...doing some programming, I think there's a couple of you to handle questions for a while, I'll be idle in case anything
[06:25] <beattie> anybody know about usb wifi?
[06:26] <nExy> dabar : no idea ?
[06:27] <PokerFacePenguin> anyone konsole gurus here know how to pass off konsole parameters from a bash shell script? ie. konsole --name
[06:27] <dabaR> nExy: you can try installing libao2:-/
[06:28] <blanky> dont you use $0
[06:28] <blanky> o.0
[06:28] <blanky> 0.o, nevermind that's something else I think...
[06:28] <nExy> apt-get install libao2 ?
[06:28] <blanky> $(numbere here) is usually for arguments
[06:28] <varsendagger> hey whats the deal with cvs snapshots?
[06:29] <blanky> what are they you mean?
[06:29] <blanky> they're just ways to control different versions of programs
[06:29] <grayman> which player can play incomplete video files?
[06:29] <cdubya> vbgunz, you still around?
[06:29] <dabaR> grayman: any. mplayer
[06:29] <grayman> no
[06:29] <_jason> blanky, $0 is the name of the script I think, $1 holds the first argument
[06:30] <blanky> _jason: there you go, :) PokerFacePenguin ask _jason
[06:30] <grayman> dabaR, not any and not mplayer
[06:30] <PokerFacePenguin> blanky: yes, i know about parameter passing like that, was wondering how to manipulate the titlebar with konsole parameters from inside a bash script
[06:30] <dabaR> grayman: sure does here.
[06:30] <PokerFacePenguin> thanks tho
[06:30] <grayman> atleast when it comes to divx
[06:30] <cenopec> how do i unpacked a .deb file, or what do i do with it?
[06:31] <nExy> how do i install esd
[06:31] <dabaR> grayman: can yuo play the whole file?
[06:31] <grayman> i can play when its complete, yes
[06:31] <_jason> grayman, probably depends on the file... i remember in windows I had to reindex some files with VirtualDub.  Haven't had a need in linux yet so I don't know
[06:31] <varsendagger> cenopec, if you want to install it you can with synaptic?
[06:31] <_jason> !deb
[06:31] <ubotu> somebody said deb was To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[06:31] <blanky> PokerFacePenguin, try #bash
[06:31] <PokerFacePenguin> _jason: for instance, i just want to tail -f filename and name the window titlename
[06:31] <blanky> :)
[06:31] <grayman> well
[06:32] <grayman> just asking
[06:32] <PokerFacePenguin> blanky: workin my way there...lol
[06:32] <grayman> in windows theres avipreviewer
[06:32] <grayman> which allows to do that
[06:32] <nExy> dabar i have esound (esd installed
[06:32] <DaOne> blanky, thanks i managed to do it.  sorry 4 not talking for such a long time
[06:32] <dabaR> nExy: can you run it from a terminal?
[06:32] <nExy> how do i run it ?
[06:32] <dabaR> esd
[06:32] <nExy> it just shows a black
[06:32] <nExy> nothing
[06:33] <dabaR> is it a command on your computer yet?
[06:33] <nExy> yes
[06:33] <dabaR> nExy: nothing means nothing
[06:33] <nExy> i installed it
[06:33] <nExy> apg-get install esound
[06:33] <dabaR> so there is no sound. does your screen hang?
[06:33] <nExy> when i run esd
[06:33] <_jason> PokerFacePenguin, so you are just looking for which argument to pass the konsole command that names the window?
[06:33] <blanky> DaOne...no problem...bye :(
[06:33] <nExy> should i hear sound ?
[06:34] <dabaR> nExy: yes, esd plays a sound.
[06:34] <cenopec> varsendagger: thanks
[06:34] <PokerFacePenguin> from a script
[06:34] <PokerFacePenguin> i know its --name titlename, but cant seem to get konsole to pass it
[06:34] <PokerFacePenguin> if i try from one konsole window interactive it doesnt work either
[06:35] <cenopec> varsendaggger: how?
[06:35] <nExy> nop
[06:35] <nExy> no sound
[06:36] <_jason> PokerFacePenguin, what you are asking should just be konsole --titlename $VARIABLE, does that command work correctly when you run it on the command line?
[06:36] <PokerFacePenguin> nope
[06:36] <PokerFacePenguin> its as if it needs to be started from another kind of shell or something
[06:37] <_jason> PokerFacePenguin, well if something like "konsole --titlename helloworld" doesn't work, you need to figure that out first.  I'd try to help but I don't use kde myself
[06:37] <dabaR> nExy: here, Ill help you with this: Your question should be: "I have no sound on my ubuntu server install. What can I do to have sound?"
[06:37] <cenopec> how do i use a .deb file from synaptic?
[06:38] <PokerFacePenguin> _jason: looking through the .bashrc right now to see if i can get a clue
[06:38] <thrice`> !dpkg
[06:38] <thrice`> ubotu: tell cenopec about dpkg
[06:38] <nExy> sorry i was raised in the ghetto, im not properly educated
[06:38] <nExy> I have no sound on my ubuntu server install. What can I do to have sound?
[06:42] <Tony_Sidaway> nExy, if you're sure the hardware works okay it may be because your kernel isn't configured for it correctly.
[06:43] <cdubya> bummer, not sure about konsole, but you can set gnome terminal's title bar by going to Terminal > Set Title...
[06:44] <trevilor> hi guys
[06:44] <blanky> hi guy
[06:45] <PokerFacePenguin> cdubya: can do it manually, with passing off parameters somehow...konsole --name titlename doesnt even do it if i add a menu item to the kmenu to do it
[06:45] <trevilor> does the 2.6.12-9-386 of breezy have the loopback device disabled or something?
[06:45] <nExy> what tony ?
[06:45] <Tony_Sidaway> When I start up Breezy, I get this in /var/log/syslog:
[06:45] <Tony_Sidaway> Dec  2 19:00:22 loopy kernel: ALSA device list:
[06:45] <Tony_Sidaway> Dec  2 19:00:22 loopy kernel:   #0: ESS Allegro PCI at 0x1400, irq 5
[06:46] <Tony_Sidaway> So it identifies my hardware correctly.
[06:46] <Madpilot> nExy: why did you do a server install?
[06:46] <cdubya> PokerFacePengiun, you're using bash?
[06:47] <nExy> cuz im gonna use it as a server
[06:47] <nExy> but i wanted to be able to use the linux box to control ads
[06:47] <nExy> and music playlist
[06:47] <nExy> for the music on hold
[06:47] <nExy> to play it out of the onboard sound card
[06:47] <PokerFacePenguin> cdubya: trying to write a simple bash script #!/bin/bash at top.....and name it something....something in .bashrc that looks interesting...looking at it now
[06:49] <pundai> hey wtf happened to mppe
[06:49] <pundai> it disappeared in breezy
[06:49] <varsendagger> Madpilot, server install is cool
[06:50] <varsendagger> even if you don't want to have an actual "server"  you can just install x and then WM other thna gnome or kde
[06:51] <varsendagger> --- if you haven't seen the new Afterstep 2.0 then i think you should take a look
[06:51] <varsendagger> and the Website doesn't do it justice
[06:51] <varsendagger> where did everyone go?
[06:52] <nExy> i dont understand
[06:52] <trevilor> can somebody tell me what to do so i am able to mount an ISO via "mount -o loop -t iso9660 ..."?
[06:52] <nExy> why cant i jsut use mgp321 ?
[06:52] <varsendagger> trevilor, just a sec
[06:52] <trevilor> ok
[06:53] <varsendagger> mount -o loop /path/to/iso /path/to/mountpoint
[06:53] <varsendagger> haven't done it yet but i saw it on the channel earlie and copied it down
[06:53] <varsendagger> trevilor, did you get that?
[06:53] <trevilor> its not a syntax problem
[06:55] <onkarshinde> Is anyone able to connect to irc.mozilla.org using GAIM in breezy?
[06:56] <onkarshinde> anyone here?
[06:56] <dabaR> no
[06:57] <Schwinn> Yes.
[06:57] <dabaR> liar
[06:57] <dabaR> just joking. sorry.
[06:57] <Schwinn> Oh right, no.
[06:57] <Thelen> lol
[06:57] <Schwinn> No one is here.
[06:57] <Schwinn> :P
[06:57] <cdubya> PokerFacePenguin, this kinda what you're trying to do? http://www.karkomaonline.com/article.php/20030622142127408
[06:57] <onkarshinde> Is anyone able to connect to irc.mozilla.org using GAIM in breezy? I am having problem.
[06:57] <blanky> i just connected with xchat
[06:58] <PokerFacePenguin> cdubya: right on...nice find
[06:58] <cdubya> np
[06:58] <cdubya> hope it helps
[06:58] <onkarshinde> blanky: I specifically asked about gaim.
[06:58] <nekostar> onkarshinde, one sec
[06:58] <blanky> onkarshinde, I nkow...
[06:58] <trevilor> crap, i think the ISO file is broken
[06:58] <trevilor> syslog says it cant identify the cd-rom format
[06:59] <nekostar> yeah
[06:59] <nekostar> sure can
[06:59] <PokerFacePenguin> cdubya: i was looking at that line in .bashrc trying to figure it out...lol
[06:59] <cdubya> heh
[06:59] <nekostar> onkarshinde, get that?
[06:59] <onkarshinde> nekostar: Have you registered a nick on irc.mozilla.org?
[06:59] <nekostar> nope
[06:59] <trevilor> wait. does the language matter of the ISO?
[07:00] <nekostar> i end up at sand.mozilla.org
[07:00] <Thelen> "configure: error: "Cannot find zlib.h. Make sure your CFLAGS environment variable contains include lines for the location of this file"
[07:00] <Thelen> joshua@Escar:~/e17/libs/eet$ locate zlib.h
[07:00] <Thelen> /usr/include/linux/zlib.h
[07:00] <Thelen> "
[07:00] <Thelen> anyone have any ideas?
[07:00] <nekostar> i just made an irc thing for gaim then connected
[07:00] <trevilor> like... when the ISO is from a spanish CD and i only have english and german installed?`
[07:00] <nekostar> what is your problem exactly
[07:00] <Thelen> i don't use GAIM for irc, it doesn't work well
[07:00] <nekostar> lets get you online with it
[07:00] <nekostar> yeah i dont use gaim for irc either
[07:00] <nekostar> <<-- xchat
[07:00] <onkarshinde> nekostar: I am not ablle to connect at all. I am fed up with this.
[07:00] <Thelen> hehe, same XD
[07:01] <nekostar> i understand frustration completely lol
[07:01] <nExy> <<-- mirc
[07:01] <onkarshinde> nekostar: I can connect to freenode but not mozilla irc
[07:01] <nekostar> try irc.rizon.net
[07:01] <nekostar> ah
[07:01] <nekostar> then check your server link
[07:01] <nExy> <<-- windows 95
[07:01] <onkarshinde> nekostar: frustration increases when I can connect from Windows GAIM
[07:01] <alfredo> d
[07:01] <nekostar> port 6667
[07:01] <Thelen> windoz +GAIM, on anything less than XP doesn't work, so don't try..
[07:02] <nekostar> encodings UTF-8
[07:02] <blanky> unicode?
[07:02] <nekostar> YEAH
[07:02] <onkarshinde> Thelen: It works. I am using on WIN2K
[07:02] <nekostar> UTF-9
[07:02] <nekostar> er 8 sorry
[07:02] <[FR31NS] Kendrick> ?
[07:02] <nekostar> make sure those are in there onkarshinde
[07:02] <nekostar> its in the more options bit
[07:02] <onkarshinde> nekostar: checked
[07:02] <[FR31NS] Kendrick> is that like trillian
[07:03] <nekostar> let me take a pic
[07:03] <nExy> I have no sound on my ubuntu server install. What can I do to have sound?
[07:03] <nekostar> nExy,
[07:03] <nekostar> sudo adduser username audio
[07:03] <nExy> nekostar
[07:03] <nekostar> try that first
[07:03] <Thelen> install drivers..
[07:04] <nekostar> then install alsa
[07:04] <Thelen> is your sound onboard
[07:04] <nekostar> and alsamixergui
[07:04] <nekostar> then make sure everything is turned up
[07:04] <nExy> adduser: The group `audio' already exists.
[07:04] <nekostar> ive had that problem a few times :P
[07:04] <XiCillin> anyone here use gnome predict?
[07:04] <XiCillin> its pretty cool
[07:04] <nekostar> yeah get alsamixergui in
[07:04] <nExy> yes sound is onbord
[07:04] <nekostar> o:
[07:04] <nekostar> i am using a card
[07:04] <nekostar> onkarshinde, make your settings similar
[07:04] <nExy> bash: alsamixergui: command not found
[07:05] <nekostar> sudo apt-get install alsamixergui
[07:05] <onkarshinde> nekostar: trying
[07:05] <nekostar> kay onkarshinde
[07:05] <nExy> alsamixergui
[07:05] <nExy> Can't open display:
[07:05] <vince_> evening all
[07:05] <nExy> im in a term
[07:05] <nekostar> o:
[07:05] <Thelen> nite vince
[07:05] <nExy> sshd : )
[07:06] <nekostar> wait
[07:06] <vince_> anyone have time for a newbie question?
[07:06] <Thelen> yeah
[07:06] <nekostar> so its a remote system too nExy ?
[07:06] <Thelen> vince_yea
[07:06] <nExy> its in the basement
[07:06] <nExy> but yah
[07:06] <nekostar> vince_, just ask away
[07:06] <vince_> great, ty
[07:06] <Thelen> np
[07:06] <nekostar> check ubuntuforums.org i would say then nExy
[07:06] <vince_> I am trying to get my wireless network card to work.
[07:06] <vince_> i downloaded ndiswrapper
[07:06] <paladinew> hey everyone, what is the easiest packet sniffer I can use on ubuntu 5.10 to scan my network ?
[07:06] <nekostar> and add #ubuntuforums to chans here lol
[07:06] <vince_> just installed the make command
[07:06] <nekostar> for ncurses try alsamixer
[07:06] <vince_> but from my understanding, i now need an updated kernel?
[07:07] <nekostar> what kernel are you using vince_
[07:07] <Thelen> ethereal @paladinew
[07:07] <vince_> ..  i have no idea
[07:07] <mulder> paladinew, tcpdump
[07:07] <vince_> how can i find out
[07:07] <Thelen> nah, ethereal xD
[07:07] <nekostar> open terminal vince_
[07:07] <vince_> ok
[07:07] <nekostar> uname -r
[07:07] <nekostar> that says :)
[07:07] <paladinew> how hard is the setup for ethereal ?
[07:07] <nExy> o
[07:07] <vince_> 2.6.12
[07:07] <nExy> ok
[07:07] <Thelen> its eas
[07:07] <nExy> everything is up
[07:07] <nExy> can i try running
[07:07] <Thelen> *easy
[07:07] <nExy> mgp321 aafa.mp3 ?
[07:07] <nekostar> no no extra kernel then vince_
[07:07] <deFrysk> paladinew, system>administration>networktools
[07:08] <nekostar> what are you trying to do
[07:08] <vince_> install ndiswrapper
[07:08] <nExy> Playing MPEG stream from 20050828210929.mp3 ...
[07:08] <nExy> MPEG 1.0 layer III, 192 kbit/s, 44100 Hz stereo
[07:08] <nExy> Can't find a suitable libao driver. (Is device in use?)
[07:08] <nekostar> nExy, do you have the mp3 drivers in you might need
[07:08] <vince_> when i tried to install, it gave me an error
[07:08] <varsendagger> !checkinstall
[07:08] <ubotu> well, checkinstall is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[07:08] <nekostar> hum interesting nExy
[07:08] <nekostar> what was the error vince_
[07:08] <paladinew> deFrysk, installing...
[07:09] <Pilgrim> hi..i have a couple questions regarding ubuntu live cd..ive tried google
[07:09] <deFrysk> installing ?
[07:09] <deFrysk> its in your panel
[07:09] <nExy> neko no idea ?
[07:09] <paladinew> it just downloaded
[07:09] <nekostar> no ideas off the top nExy sorry :/
[07:09] <deFrysk> ok
[07:09] <paladinew> not under system, admin
[07:09] <nekostar> ive not tried doing that
[07:09] <nekostar> but
[07:09] <vince_> "can't find kernel sources in /lib/modules/2.6.12.9-386/build; give the path to kernel sources with KRSC=<path> argument to make
[07:09] <nekostar> it sounds nExy like you have something going
[07:09] <nekostar> o
[07:10] <nekostar> get this package vince like this:
[07:10] <Pilgrim> i tried to change my screen resolution but its stuck in 640x480 @ 60 hertz..and when i goto system --> preferences --> screen resolution.. it doesnt give me any other options
[07:10] <nekostar> sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[07:10] <nExy> me ?
[07:10] <vince_> ok
[07:10] <nekostar> should install kernel-image or kernel source or something
[07:10] <nekostar> along with everythign else :P
[07:10] <deFrysk> paladinew, try running gnome-nettool
[07:10] <nekostar> nExy, sorry for u um
[07:10] <nekostar> do top
[07:10] <nekostar> see what all is running on it
[07:10] <nekostar> you might need to reset esd
[07:10] <paladinew> deFrysk: this will let me log all IM traffic correct ?
[07:11] <nekostar> sounds like something is running with sound already somewhere
[07:11] <vince_> "can't find package build-essentials
[07:11] <nekostar> vince open terminal do this:
[07:11] <onkarshinde> nekostar: Not working still. Leave it. I guesst I will use xchat or chatzilla
[07:11] <nekostar> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:11] <Pilgrim> i guess ill wait then :p
[07:11] <nekostar> kay onkarshinde im sure there is a silly reason somewhere
[07:11] <onkarshinde> vince_:  it is build-essential (remove last s)
[07:11] <nekostar> arg
[07:11] <nekostar> what onkarshinde said
[07:11] <nekostar> also
[07:12] <nekostar> !sources
[07:12] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:12] <nekostar> i use that breezy one there
[07:12] <nekostar> and uncomment everything
[07:12] <nekostar> thus all main and extra packages there to play with for the most part
[07:12] <nekostar> !restricted codecs
[07:12] <ubotu> nekostar: Are you smoking crack?
[07:13] <nekostar> lol
[07:13] <nekostar> ubotu, tell vince_ about restricted codecs
[07:13] <Pilgrim> hello
[07:13] <nekostar> o my bad
[07:13] <nekostar> ubotu, tell vince_ about restricted formats
[07:13] <nekostar> hi Pilgrim
[07:13] <nekostar> or should i say howdy :P
[07:14] <nekostar> nExy, what all do you have running on the server?
[07:14] <vince_> okay awesome, i used build-essential without the s and it's unpacking
[07:14] <Pilgrim> haha
[07:14] <vince_> you all are great
[07:14] <Pilgrim> just wondering if someone could help me out with a couple noobish questions
[07:14] <Pilgrim> *pasted* -> i tried to change my screen resolution but its stuck in 640x480 @ 60 hertz..and when i goto system --> preferences --> screen resolution.. it doesnt give me any other options
[07:15] <blanky> how can I view divx files?
[07:15] <varsendagger> Pilgrim, your x server may not be configured properly
[07:15] <nekostar> good vince_ :)
[07:15] <varsendagger> blanky, sudo apt-get install gmplayer
[07:15] <nekostar> ah
[07:16] <varsendagger> gmplayer <your divx file>
[07:16] <nekostar> Pilgrim, what do you have for video type hardware
[07:16] <vince_> i'm still getting the kernel error
[07:16] <nekostar> try doing in a terminal:
[07:16] <nekostar> what is the error exactly vince_
[07:16] <nekostar> Pilgrim, :in terminal: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:17] <nekostar> that will let you choose drivers
[07:17] <nekostar> and other interesting stuff :)
[07:17] <Pilgrim> sorry..im a noob lol my screen res is so small...i tried to go into preferences and i couldnt see any exit button
[07:17] <Pilgrim> did anyone say anything to me? :(
[07:17] <vince_> "can't find kernel sources in /lib/modules/2.6.12.9-386/build; give the path to kernel sources with KRSC=<path> argument to make
[07:18] <Pilgrim> ?
[07:18] <nekostar> Pilgrim, :"
[07:18] <nekostar> Pilgrim, :in terminal: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:18] <Tedd> Hi.
[07:18] <Tedd> Help.
[07:18] <Tedd> Again.
[07:18] <nekostar> hi Tedd
[07:18] <nekostar> :P
[07:18] <Tedd> STill trying to do Gnomad, but I got farther this time!
[07:19] <nekostar> welcome to the unbreaking chan of ubuntu :P
[07:19] <nekostar> gnomad?
[07:19] <blanky> varsendagger, thanks
[07:19] <ClayG> what is the command to change a file's ownership from root to me (i can't delete it!)
[07:19] <Tedd> Now I'm at ./configure for it but it tells me that it needs libnjb 2.2.4, but that I have 2.2.1.
[07:19] <varsendagger> youbet
[07:19] <Tedd> Now, I instlaled libnjb 2.2.4.
[07:19] <Tedd> Can anybody help me?
[07:19] <vince_> hey neko, i appreciate your help. i can see you are super busy, so just holler when you get your hands untied
[07:20] <Pilgrim> thank you neko, brb
[07:20] <Tedd> Can anybody help?
[07:21] <Pilgrim> whats the default admin password
[07:21] <nekostar> heh np Pilgrim
[07:21] <nekostar> lemme see here Tedd
[07:21] <nekostar> Pilgrim, there is non
[07:21] <nekostar> e
[07:21] <nekostar> its sudo +command
[07:21] <nekostar> then your pass
[07:21] <Pilgrim> ooooh
[07:21] <nekostar> :)
[07:22] <Pilgrim> thanks, but i dont have a pass
[07:22] <Tedd> can somebody help me
[07:22] <Tedd> install libnjb
[07:22] <Tedd> 2.2.4
[07:22] <Tedd> i've done what I thought was the end of it
[07:23] <Tedd> but apparently not
[07:23] <nekostar> Tedd, what are you trying to build?
[07:23] <Tedd> libnjb 2.2.4
[07:23] <Tedd> I need it for Gnomad2, an object for the Zen Micro transfers and things.
[07:24] <nekostar> ah
[07:24] <nekostar> did you check ubuntuforums.org for a howto or post on this?
[07:24] <Tedd> No.
[07:24] <Tedd> I should huh.
[07:24] <paulproteus> Tedd: Here's my suggestion:
[07:24] <nekostar> there might be someone who has done all this
[07:24] <paulproteus> Oh, let me write a quick tutorial.
[07:24] <Pilgrim> hmm
[07:24] <nekostar> oo awesome
[07:24] <Pilgrim> should i go with 60 hz or 85 hz?
[07:25] <nekostar> do you have a vid card Pilgrim ?
[07:25] <Pilgrim> yeah
[07:25] <Pilgrim> ati 9000
[07:25] <nekostar> 85
[07:25] <Pilgrim> whats the diff?
[07:25] <nekostar> what res
[07:25] <Pilgrim> well i want 1280x1024 but i just realized the only option is 60 hz
[07:25] <Pilgrim> 1280x920 has both
[07:25] <paulproteus> Tedd: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=libnjb5
[07:25] <paulproteus> It appears it's already in Ubuntu.
[07:25] <Pilgrim> i chose 60
[07:25] <Pilgrim> :s
[07:26] <nekostar> then enable both
[07:26] <paulproteus> You want to install libnjb5 and libnjb-dev .
[07:26] <nekostar> lol
[07:26] <paulproteus> Pilgrim: What type of monitor do you have?
[07:26] <Pilgrim> uhh
[07:26] <mulder> how do you setup a wireless network on ubuntu
[07:26] <Pilgrim> Generic..? Expression 7Sp?
[07:26] <Pilgrim> i dont know lol
[07:26] <nekostar> i should have said something Pilgrim
[07:26] <paulproteus> Pilgrim: CRT or LCD , I mean.
[07:26] <Pilgrim> CRT
[07:26] <nekostar> when you do it and get to the end i just suggest medium
[07:26] <paulproteus> Okay, then you'll probably want the better refresh rate.
[07:26] <mulder> as in wireless p2p, without an access point
[07:27] <Pilgrim> k, it didnt work
[07:27] <nekostar> mulder, what kind of p2p
[07:27] <nekostar> o
[07:27] <Mr_Milenko> BITTORRENT!
[07:27] <nekostar> Pilgrim, it doesnt work immediately
[07:27] <Mr_Milenko> oh
[07:27] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[07:27] <Mr_Milenko> (and that was a joke)
[07:27] <nekostar> ctrl+alt+backspace
[07:27] <nekostar> yeah
[07:27] <Mr_Milenko> Kazaa for the win
[07:27] <nekostar> bittornado is better
[07:27] <mulder> laptop <---> laptop via wifi
[07:27] <nekostar> fastrack+linux+bitchy
[07:27] <nekostar> ah
[07:27] <Mr_Milenko> Azureus is a decent BT client
[07:27] <nekostar> dunno about that sorry :/
[07:27] <nekostar> az is good
[07:27] <Mr_Milenko> i havent had a problem with it
[07:28] <vince_> hey neko, thanks for your help
[07:28] <nekostar> i wish we could get a port of utorrent
[07:28] <Thelen> utorrent is WAY better, and much smaller
[07:28] <nekostar> np vince_
[07:28] <vince_> i don't know how your fingers can take it
[07:28] <nekostar> yeah
[07:28] <rabeldable> !perms
[07:28] <ubotu> Permissions are explained here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions  - The easiest way to work with permissions is to sudo chmod {options} filename.  Also, try "man chmod", "man chown", and "man chgrp" from the console.
[07:28] <Tedd> paulproteus, I already HAVE what I need.
[07:28] <Tedd> I just need help installing it.
[07:28] <vince_> i'm still getting an error
[07:28] <paulproteus> Tedd: Oh.  What's the question, then?
[07:28] <cdubya> mulder, I'd think you'd just need to setup the networking to ad-hoc mode.....
[07:28] <paulproteus> Be precise, then - what have you tried, what did it do, and what did you expect?
[07:28] <Tedd> See, I thought I had finished installing 2.2.4.
[07:28] <paulproteus> Tedd: Okay.
[07:28] <vince_> The error is "can't find kernel sources in /lib/modules/2.6.12.9-386/build; give the path to kernel sources with KRSC=<path> argument to make
[07:29] <paulproteus> vince_: Have you installed linux-headers-2.6.12.9-386 ?
[07:29] <Tedd> But doing ./configure for Gnomad2-2.8.2 it gives me an error, saying I only have 2.2.1.
[07:29] <vince_> no
[07:29] <vince_> do i need to download that
[07:29] <Tedd> Any idea, paulproteus
[07:29] <mulder> cdubya, how would you toggle that? ifconfig?
[07:29] <paulproteus> vince_: I don't know what kernel stuff you're compiling, but you generally need linux-headers-$(uname -r) installed to install kernel stuff.
[07:29] <paulproteus> Tedd: Yes.
[07:29] <Tedd> Hooray!
[07:29] <paulproteus> Tedd: apt-get remove libnjb5 libnjb-dev
[07:30] <paulproteus> Or do it in a GUI of some kind
[07:30] <vince_> i'm trying to do a make install for ndiswrappers
[07:30] <paulproteus> .
[07:30] <paulproteus> vince_: Okay.  Do this at a shell:
[07:30] <paulproteus> vince_: apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[07:30] <cdubya> mulder, hang on...
[07:30] <paulproteus> vince_: Why aren't you using module-assistant?
[07:31] <vince_> b/c i have no idea what i'm doing
[07:31] <paulproteus> vince_: Okay. :)
[07:31] <Tedd> URG. paulproteus; I try but it gives me a lock error.
[07:31] <vince_> :)
[07:31] <mulder> cdubya, n/m. found it. iwconfig apparently. thanks :)
[07:31] <paulproteus> vince_: Why did you choose this method for the instalL?  Read it in a README, or an ubuntuforums post, or what?
[07:31] <alekz> how "compatible" are ipods with ubuntu ?
[07:31] <paulproteus> Provide me the URL or full text of the directions you're following, vince_ .
[07:31] <vince_> read it on a ndiswrapper wiki
[07:31] <cdubya> np
[07:31] <mihai> I have a simple question. what is the different between remove and complete remove in synaptic?
[07:31] <mulder> that was easy
[07:31] <paulproteus> vince_: URL, then?
[07:32] <paulproteus> Tedd: I think you have some package installing GUI open.
[07:32] <paulproteus> Like Synaptic.
[07:32] <mulder> to think xpp was more hassle to setup the p2p wifi network
[07:32] <Tedd> Nope.
[07:32] <mihai> alekz, unfortunalety for me not that compatible
[07:32] <Tedd> Don't have synaptic open. Should I just remove it from synaptic?
[07:32] <vince_> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu#5_-_Installing_ndiswrapper
[07:32] <alekz> mihai, why ?
[07:32] <paulproteus> Tedd: That should be fine.
[07:32] <paulproteus> vince_: Okay, let's see.  /me reads url
[07:32] <mihai> alekz, I still use win just for the iPod
[07:32] <vince_> ty pual
[07:32] <vince_> paul*
[07:32] <alekz> mihai, but what exactly you can't do on ubuntu ?
[07:33] <mihai> alekz, I have corupted my database once and since then I only sync it on win
[07:33] <mihai> alekz, this is the only thing I do outside ubuntu
[07:33] <paulproteus> vince_: Use https://wiki.ubuntu.com//SetupNdiswrapperHowto instead.
[07:33] <paulproteus> I've heard that gtkpod works for iPod stuff, but I don't have an iPod.
[07:33] <alekz> mihai, i dont have a win box :( wich ubuntu version do u use ?
[07:33] <calc> banshee supposed to sync for ipod also
[07:34] <cdubya> yeah, I've heard some pretty decent stuff about gtkpod as well....
[07:34] <mihai> alekz, 5.10
[07:34] <paulproteus> Tedd: Tell me how you're doing. :)
[07:34] <mihai> calc, banshee was the one that corrupted my database
[07:34] <calc> mihai: ah ok
[07:34] <vince_> ah
[07:34] <calc> mihai: yea gtkpod has been around a lot longer it probably is more stable
[07:34] <vince_> ok i will try this
[07:34] <calc> i had heard banshee was supposed to support ipod evidently it needs more work :\
[07:34] <alekz> mihai, well ill see if i get one :P
[07:34] <vince_> ty paul
[07:35] <mihai> alekz, and gtkpod did not actially install the files right in the ipod because they were not in the playlist
[07:35] <paulproteus> vince_: My motto is, "Thank me when it works."
[07:35] <mihai> I have a simple question. what is the different between remove and complete remove in synaptic?
[07:35] <vince_> lol, then thanks in advance
[07:35] <paulproteus> vince_: :)
[07:35] <paulproteus> mihai: "complete remove" removes configuration files.
[07:35] <alekz> :o ok mihai thanks :)
[07:35] <mihai> because I want to the rid of the old 386 kernel
[07:36] <mihai> alekz, I recommand trying and if you find a solution plase share it with me
[07:36] <mihai> paulproteus, thanks
[07:36] <XiCillin> anybody here use gnome predict?
[07:36] <alekz> mihai, i'll do :) i'll seek for one right now i have a nice ebay ipod offert :P
[07:37] <vince_> hey paul
[07:37] <gar-> is there is any way i can install from a iso putting in on a partition and them load it on dos????
[07:37] <Tedd> paulproteus: I uninstalled libnjb5 and -dev, and redid the ./configure and make and make install, but now gnomad is telling me that I have no libnjb package found.
[07:38] <Pilgrim> guess whos back :s
[07:38] <schpenke> alekz/mihai: I use gtkpod with my iPod and although it works correctly most times, I have noticed that gtkpod sometimes garbles artist lists on quirky synchs.
[07:38] <Tedd> paulproteus, should I uninstall libnjb-1 too?
[07:38] <paulproteus> gar-: You can install from an ISO on a hard drive.  Look up MEMDISK.
[07:38] <paulproteus> Tedd: Sure, why not? ;)
[07:38] <alekz> schpenke, do u have a video ipod ?
[07:38] <ULffuntu> anybody here use beepmedia?
[07:38] <paulproteus> Tedd: Remember when you did "./configure" for libnjb?
[07:38] <Pilgrim> i hit control alt backspace..and then i got a list of services that it started..and it said checking battery life or something. and then i hit control alt delete by accident :(
[07:38] <schpenke> alekz: No, I have a 2nd Gen Mini.
[07:39] <paulproteus> You should do ./configure --prefix=/usr this time.
[07:39] <vince_> hey paul, don't mean to bombard you, but i'm receiving a permissions error when i tried apt-get etc.
[07:39] <gar-> paulproteus but how? can you explain to me
[07:39] <mihai> schpenke, I have a shuffle and that would not be a problem. the real problem is that the songs never played
[07:39] <paulproteus> Then it'll work the way you expect.
[07:39] <Pilgrim> anyway..did you say anything else?
[07:39] <paulproteus> gar-: I've never done it, I only know what the tool is called.
[07:39] <alekz> schpenke, that's the problem i want a 6th gen :S
[07:39] <gar-> memdisk?
[07:39] <paulproteus> vince_: You should prefix the command with 'sudo'.
[07:39] <paulproteus> Sorry; my mistake for not being clear, vince_.
[07:39] <vince_> oh
[07:39] <schpenke> Mihai: Same with me.  The mini displays the artist briefly but never plays the songs... just skips it.
[07:39] <vince_> np ty
[07:39] <paulproteus> And don't worry about bugging me; I'm helping you for a reason. ;)
[07:40] <nekostar> ok im back L:)
[07:40] <Tedd> paulproteus, I did it with the prefix. Should I do make and make install now?
[07:40] <mihai> schpenke, I have heard that the latest gtkpod version actually works. the one newer that the version in the ubuntu tree
[07:40] <paulproteus> Tedd: That's right.
[07:40] <Pilgrim> nokostar :) woot
[07:40] <paulproteus> Tedd: You may want to try 'make uninstall' first.
[07:41] <schpenke> Mihai/Alekz: I have also noticed that the synch seems to behave better when doing small synch jobs.  Anything over 500-500MB seems to upset it.
[07:41] <Pilgrim> did you see above? ^^
[07:41] <paulproteus> Tedd: So it will clean up the stuff it left in /usr/local/ (the default prefix).
[07:41] <schpenke> *500-600MB, rather.
[07:41] <paulproteus> Tedd: But if 'make uninstall' doesn't work, it's not the end of the world.
[07:41] <mihai> schpenke, I've only tryed one single song at a time
[07:41] <alekz> :o schpenke thanks for the tip :)
[07:41] <mihai> schpenke, and after 100 tryes it works but I never hear the song out of the ipod
[07:42] <Pilgrim> nekostar..can we chat in pm?
[07:42] <schpenke> mihai: Really?  Hmmm... are you using the GUI synch button or going to the File menu?
[07:42] <nekostar> what do you need Pilgrim exactly?
[07:42] <Pilgrim> 2 things
[07:42] <nekostar> ok
[07:42] <Pilgrim> 1. Have a higher screen resolution
[07:42] <Tedd> paulproteus, it still isn't detecting any package.
[07:42] <nekostar> right
[07:43] <mihai> schpenke, don't remember. But in the 100 trys I think I have clicked both
[07:43] <Madpilot> !tell Pilgrim about fixres
[07:43] <paulproteus> Tedd: That's strange.  Try "rm configure.cache" and try again.
[07:43] <paulproteus> Tedd: Can you copy-paste the exact error?
[07:43] <Pilgrim> 2. I haven't googled this..so ill google it and come back :) (moving settings around on a usb key? im using a livecd)
[07:43] <paulproteus> Tedd: What's the thing called again?
[07:43] <nekostar> ah
[07:43] <nekostar> that second one i have no experience with :?
[07:43] <nekostar> :/ **
[07:43] <Tedd> paulproteus, Gnomad2
[07:43] <Tedd> And I'll message it to you as to not spam the channel.
[07:44] <Tedd> Do you mind?
[07:44] <ULffuntu> anybody here use beepmedia?
[07:44] <Pilgrim> thanks anyway
[07:44] <schpenke> mihai: And you have a Windows formatted Shuffle?  Have you tried a fresh format and then a synch?  You may have answered this so I apologize for redundancy.
[07:44] <paulproteus> Tedd: Use a pastebot.
[07:44] <paulproteus> Tedd: Not PM.
[07:44] <Tedd> Pastebot?
[07:44] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[07:44] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[07:44] <Madpilot> Tedd: ^^^
[07:44] <paulproteus> Tedd: Also, if I could provide you instructions that would virtually-guarantee you to get version 2.8.1 installed, how would you feel about that?
[07:44] <paulproteus> Or do you want something newer?
[07:45] <mihai> schpenke, I haven't tryed this way
[07:45] <Tedd> http://pastebin.com/447030
[07:45] <Tedd> paulproteus; If you were to do that I would love you in the most nonhomosexual way possible.
[07:45] <the> Okay, how do I take Direct Rendering off of OpenGL Programs?
[07:45] <jgrieves> ....
[07:45] <paulproteus> Tedd: Excellent. ;)
[07:46] <paulproteus> Tedd: You're missing a lot more stuff than just this njb junk.  Let me write up the tutorial I was going to.
[07:46] <Tedd> YAY!
[07:46] <paulproteus> Tedd: Give me about 15 minutes, maybe 20-25.
[07:46] <Tedd> I'm sorry.
[07:46] <Tedd> About all this.
[07:46] <paulproteus> Tedd: No, I've been looking for an excuse to write this, anyway.
[07:46] <mihai> schpenke, I personally did not find a solution for synching under ubuntu. this is the only things that ubuntu can't do for me right now
[07:47] <themuffenmann> any1 use Slackware?
[07:47] <paulproteus> Tedd: Besides, "I'm sorry" always spoils love.
[07:47] <bur[n] er> themuffenmann: you're in the wrong channel ;)
[07:47] <paulproteus> themuffenmann: Yeah, in #slackware ;)
[07:47] <schpenke> mihai: That's really interesting.  I use gtkpog with Ubuntu and other than the occasional synch garble it works fine.  Maybe try reformatting and then synching again?
[07:47] <schpenke> *gtkpod
[07:48] <bur[n] er> mihai: try banshee?
[07:48] <mihai> schpenke, I'll try that
[07:48] <the> Okay, how do I take Direct Rendering off of OpenGL Programs?
[07:48] <mihai> bur[n] er, banshee corupted my ipod once
[07:48] <mihai> schpenke, do you use the gtk for ubuntu or one compilated by you? do you have aac support on it?
[07:48] <bur[n] er> mihai: just curious... i heard it was good... (i have a creative zen)
[07:48] <Madpilot> the: what graphics card do you have?
[07:49] <the> Madpilot:  ATI. They don't make drivers for Ubuntu
[07:49] <Tedd> I have an ATI card.
[07:49] <Tedd> And it works fine.
[07:49] <schpenke> mihai: gtk for Ubuntu.  No aac.
[07:49] <thrice`> The, sure they do; you check teh repos?
[07:49] <thrice`> !ati
[07:49] <mihai> bur[n] er, banschee is far from finished
[07:49] <ubotu> methinks ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[07:49] <gar-> paulproteus that syslinux is boot from floppy i dont have floppy
[07:49] <mihai> schpenke, thanks
[07:49] <bur[n] er> mihai: true... used the latest when you tried?  0.9.12 ?
[07:49] <paulproteus> gar-: Memdisk lets you tie it with GRUB , the hard-disk based bootloader.
[07:49] <mihai> schpenke, you game me hope again ;)
[07:49] <the> thrice`:  Actually yes. I haven't found 1 driver for my ATI card that works
[07:50] <gar-> hmmm
[07:50] <Madpilot> the: yes they do
[07:50] <schpenke> mihai:  Good luck!  ;)
[07:50] <bur[n] er> mihai: rhythmbox 0.9.2 has ipod support :)  (though not for breezy until libgpod is backported)
[07:50] <the> Madpilot:  Where, then?
[07:50] <Madpilot> !tell the about ati
[07:50] <mihai> bur[n] er, the latest form the ubuntu tree. d/k exactly what version
[07:50] <Madpilot> the follow that wiki page, it does work
[07:50] <bur[n] er> mihai: try to grab a deb of their latest at banshee... might work a bit better
[07:50] <Trashcan> something tells me this install won't end well
[07:50] <Trashcan> the entire screen is filled with grey background
[07:51] <mihai> bur[n] er, rhythmbox can nicely play the songs out of my ipod but not write on it
[07:51] <paulproteus> Tedd: Hey, wait a sec.
[07:51] <Trashcan> black text showing [4295027.758000]  followed by a lot of crap
[07:51] <bur[n] er> mihai: with 0.9.2 it should be writable as well (i hear)
[07:51] <paulproteus> You should be able to just install gnomad2 via Synaptic.
[07:51] <Tedd> paulproteus, K.
[07:51] <paulproteus> Why don't you give that a shot?
[07:51] <Tedd> I'll be up for another twenty.
[07:51] <Trashcan> like 'EIP is at refill_inactive_zone+xxxxxxxx'
[07:51] <mihai> bur[n] er, maybe works better, but I prefer that option of libgpod for rhythmbox
[07:51] <Tedd> oh I have.
[07:51] <Tedd> Of COURSE I have.
[07:51] <Tedd> It gives me an error.
[07:51] <paulproteus> Tedd: What error?
[07:52] <schpenke> mihai:  Out of curiosity, when you plug your Shuffle in does Ubuntu correctly mount the volume and display a proper directory structure?
[07:52] <mihai> schpenke, yes
[07:52] <Madpilot> bur[n] er: does the Creative Zen play .ogg or .flac?
[07:52] <mihai> Madpilot, unfortunately yes :) I think
[07:52] <nekostar> arg
[07:52] <Trashcan> ooh
[07:52] <nekostar> hehe now i broke something :/
[07:52] <Trashcan> plays ogg
[07:52] <Trashcan> i'm interested
[07:53] <mihai> Madpilot, I am a big fan of that formats
[07:53] <Tedd> USB_SET_CONFIGURATION: Could not perform operation
[07:53] <Tedd> or something like that, paulproteus
[07:53] <schpenke> mihai: Bloody hell... that is a plus, at least.
[07:53] <paulproteus> Tedd: Maybe you need to run it via sudo?
[07:53] <Madpilot> mihai: I've got 30+ Gb of music in .ogg & .flac - all legal - so I'm interested too. cool
[07:53] <Trashcan> this is crazzyy... 'Bluetooth: RFCOMM ver 1.5wake_function+0x0/0x3a'
[07:53] <nekostar> apparently mozilla cannot get the plugin manager and therefor will not open :/
[07:53] <Tedd> Trie.d
[07:53] <Tedd> You mean installing it via sudo?
[07:53] <Trashcan> and in the middle of the screen is a red bar with the %
[07:53] <paulproteus> Tedd: No, *running* it via sudo.
[07:53] <Tedd> OK, hm.
[07:53] <mihai> schpenke, I hope somehow to make it work
[07:54] <nekostar> any clue what might cause // fix that anyone?
[07:54] <Tedd> I'll try installing it
[07:54] <Tedd> should I install thru sudo
[07:54] <paulproteus> Tedd: Good idea to clarify that "sudo" question of mine. :)
[07:54] <paulproteus> Tedd: Installing it via Synaptic is fine.
[07:54] <mihai> schpenke, because I hate windows and rebooting too much
[07:54] <Tedd> I've had this for over two weeks and the amount of knowledge I've gained involving linux is LEGENDARY.
[07:54] <Trashcan> what's the max size the Zen comes in?
[07:54] <nekostar> hehe lots of fun eh Tedd
[07:54] <Trashcan> my step dad has a 40gb i think
[07:54] <Tedd> 40gb.
[07:54] <nekostar> :D
[07:55] <Tedd> Yeah.
[07:55] <Trashcan> awe :(
[07:55] <schpenke> mihai:   Heh..  right?  I hear you.  I have faith that you can get it worked out.
[07:55] <Trashcan> he got this crazy media player, it's not the greatest player but you can swap the hdd out with a laptop hdd
[07:55] <mihai> schpenke, thanks a lot for your time
[07:55] <Trashcan> 80gb :D
[07:55] <schpenke> mihai: NP
[07:55] <mihai> see you around. bye
[07:56] <Tedd> paulproteus, what would I use
[07:56] <Tedd> sudo run gnomad2?
[07:56] <nekostar> so paul or someone>?
[07:56] <nekostar> INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: Could not get the plugin manager
[07:56] <nekostar> plugin_get_value 1
[07:56] <nekostar> etc etc
[07:56] <nekostar> any clue what thats actually meaning? :P
[07:57] <paulproteus> Tedd: sudo gnomad2
[07:57] <Trashcan> yayyy, my first ubuntu install on a fast machine
[07:57] <Trashcan> it's so nice being free of P1s and P3s
[07:57] <Tedd> paulproteus.
[07:57] <Tedd> I love you.
[07:57] <bur[n] er> Trashcan: beautful eh?
[07:57] <paulproteus> Tedd: Well, this indicates a general permissions problem.
[07:58] <nExy> everything load quick as fuck trash ?
[07:58] <Tedd> I got a few errors in the load though (in the terminal)
[07:58] <Trashcan> hell yea
[07:58] <Trashcan> :D
[07:58] <Quequeg> Trashcan, try maintaining gentoo on a slowish machine.  :)
[07:58] <Trashcan> hehe
[07:58] <nekostar> oi
[07:58] <nekostar> help plz
[07:58] <nekostar> b/c i cant google !_!
[07:58] <Tedd> Aw, shit.
[07:58] <paulproteus> Tedd: You should file a bug against the Ubuntu bugzilla.
[07:58] <Trashcan> hmm
[07:58] <Tedd> Nope.
[07:59] <Tedd> Doesn't work.
[07:59] <Tedd> Shit.
[07:59] <Trashcan> still need to do the ati drivers crap
[07:59] <nekostar> plugins... mozilla... wont load...
[07:59] <paulproteus> Tedd: Be specific.
[07:59] <Trashcan> radeon 9800 pro
[07:59] <Tedd> I tried to change a folder, and it aborted.
[07:59] <bur[n] er> nekostar: what "plugins" ?
[07:59] <nekostar> well it doesnt say
[07:59] <nekostar> it trys to load the first then the second
[07:59] <nekostar> INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: Could not get the plugin manager  <<-- then say s that
[07:59] <nekostar> then doesnt finish opening
[08:00] <bur[n] er> nekostar: mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla.old
[08:00] <nekostar> it worked a couple minutes ago i swear :/
[08:00] <paulproteus> Tedd: Okay.
[08:00] <bur[n] er> nekostar: then launch firefox again
[08:00] <The_Vox> anybody ever tried upgrading from x86 to amd64?
[08:00] <Madpilot> Trashcan: the fglrx drivers should work for that card - they work nicely w/ my 9600XT
[08:00] <paulproteus> Tedd: Did it print an error of some kind?
[08:00] <The_Vox> I mean...upgrading ubuntu
[08:00] <paulproteus> Can you pastebin all the junk it printed to the terminal?
[08:00] <Tedd> Yessir. Pastebinning it.
[08:00] <nExy> nothing
[08:00] <nExy> lol
[08:00] <Tedd> http://pastebin.com/447034
[08:00] <paulproteus> Tedd: BTW, how old are you?
[08:00] <The_Vox> bur[n] er: run glxgears :)
[08:01] <Trashcan> yeah mad, i'm goin through the steps now
[08:01] <Tedd> paulproteus, I'm fifteen.
[08:01] <paulproteus> Tedd: Cool. :)
[08:01] <Trashcan> same :p
[08:01] <Trashcan> gonna be fun getting my wireless card to work
[08:01] <paulproteus> Being 15 was fun.  I'm 20 now.
[08:01] <CMD> I just downloaded Dapper Drake Flight 1, Where can I learn more about what is new and what is different? Whats fixed, etc?
[08:01] <nekostar> yeah i deleted the folder bur[n] er and no go
[08:01] <CMD> !dapper
[08:01] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[08:01] <paulproteus> Tedd: Do you have any prior Linux experience?
[08:01] <the> Madpilot:  Didn't work.
[08:01] <Tedd> Well,
[08:02] <bur[n] er> The_Vox: that's what i figured ;)
[08:02] <calc> i'm two :)
[08:02] <factotum> same here
[08:02] <paulproteus> calc++
[08:02] <bur[n] er> anyone play call of duty 2 yet on linux?
[08:02] <Tedd> My background is mainly windows, and mostly PHP. I started working for a friend's server company thru SSH (Fedora Core 3. One step above suicide).
[08:02] <Tedd> My friend Vendetta approached me about testing Ubuntu on this computer and I said what the hell, I was looking for a change.
[08:03] <rixth> Who is good at math? I'm willing to pay someone $2 to do some maths for me (one question) I need the aspect ratio converted into a 1: X ratio.
[08:03] <rixth> (16:9 to a 1:X ratio)
[08:03] <Thelen> lol
[08:03] <paulproteus> rixth: Use Python.
[08:03] <Thelen> 9/16
[08:03] <botbuilder> lol
[08:03] <Thelen> 9/16
[08:03] <Thelen> $2 please :D
[08:03] <Trashcan> lol
[08:03] <cdubya> heh
[08:04] <rixth> 1:9/16? Thats the answer?!
[08:04] <calc> 1/.5625 ?
[08:04] <Thelen> yes 1:9/16 is answer..
[08:04] <Thelen> roughly 0.5625 yeah :D
[08:04] <botbuilder> lol
[08:04] <nekostar> so any clues what might be doing this bur[n] er ?
[08:04] <Quequeg> sounds like what he really wants is to know how to scale an image.
[08:04] <botbuilder> you can do that in calc
[08:04] <rixth> Thelen, not roughly, I need exact :)
[08:04] <rixth> I need an exact decimal
[08:04] <calc> 9/16 is exactly 0.5625
[08:05] <rixth> Okay. Paypal address Thelen?
[08:05] <Trashcan> i get lots of 'insmod: error inserting /lib/modules/.../video/lots_of_stuff: -1 File Exists'
[08:05] <Trashcan> when i boot
[08:05] <botbuilder> lol
[08:05] <botbuilder> he was serious about the $2
[08:05] <cdubya> heh
[08:05] <Trashcan> then it sits on 'Starting RAID Devices' for about 3 minutes
[08:05] <Trashcan> after that it boots normally
[08:05] <Trashcan> any suggestions?
[08:05] <rixth> Yes, I was lol
[08:06] <the> Madpilot:  Didn't work.
[08:06] <Quequeg> Trashcan, can your summarize output of 'cat /proc/mdstat' in one line?
[08:06] <Trashcan> when it boots, yes
[08:06] <botbuilder> trashcan - disable raid?
[08:06] <botbuilder> if that's an option...
[08:06] <Trashcan> why yes, yes it is :)
[08:06] <botbuilder> Well, I don't know how - I just managed to get ubuntu working a few hours ago
[08:07] <botbuilder> By ripping out all devices i don't need!
[08:07] <Trashcan> /proc/mdstat:
[08:07] <Trashcan> personalities: unused devices: <none>
[08:08] <Quequeg> don't post here, but anything alarming in 'dmesg | grep -n5 -i raid'?
[08:08] <Madpilot> the: sorry, what didn't work?
[08:09] <Trashcan> Quequeg : empty
[08:09] <paulproteus> Tedd: http://web.asheesh.org/2005/12/03/backporting/
[08:09] <paulproteus> package_name for you is gnomad2 .
[08:09] <the> Madpilot:  The ATI driver thing. It came up with an error and I had to fix it in a Failsafe terminal
[08:10] <Madpilot> the: sometimes it does that. blame ATI. in a terminal, type "fglrxinfo" w/o quote, and tell me what it says (don't paste in the channel, though)
[08:10] <Quequeg> Trashcan, don't know then, sorry.
[08:10] <Trashcan> np, thanks anyway
[08:10] <paulproteus> Tedd: Still around?
[08:10] <paulproteus> Tedd: You have a friend named "Vendetta"?  Wow.
[08:10] <the> Madpilot:  Mesa crap
[08:11] <tag> I just downloaded ubuntu breezy and burnt it to a cd
[08:11] <Madpilot> the: could you please change your nick? there are so many ppl here with nicks starting with "the" that yours is impossible to tab-complete...
[08:11] <tag> I restarted my computer, it starts the ubuntu installer and I hit enter (normal installation)...then it stats with some normal init script output, and freezes
[08:12] <Trashcan> lol
[08:12] <Trashcan> just type 'the'
[08:12] <coz> hello all
[08:12] <Madpilot> Nealz: thanks
[08:12] <Trashcan> :p
[08:12] <Nealz> Madpilot:   Sure
[08:12] <paulproteus> tag: Can you verify that the CD works?
[08:12] <paulproteus> tag: Alternately, tell me about your computer.
[08:12] <coz>  is there a way to prevent remote desktop "into" ubuntu?
[08:12] <tag> My computer is an Asus M3N Laptop
[08:12] <paulproteus> coz: It's off by default.
[08:12] <defendguin> is there a way to change color depths in the x confg?
[08:12] <paulproteus> !x
[08:12] <coz> ok good so noone can remot in?
[08:12] <Madpilot> Nealz: read the wiki page about recovering from the console, you might have to install or re-install some stuff
[08:12] <ubotu> Wish i knew, paulproteus
[08:12] <Quequeg> Trashcan, I take that back, in /boot/grub/menu.lst remove 'quiet' from the kernel you're loading and watch as it boots to see if you get more descriptive messages where it hangs.
[08:12] <paulproteus> coz: By default, that's right.
[08:13] <Madpilot> coz: there's no ssh server by default
[08:13] <coz> and where are the settings for remote desktop?
[08:13] <tag> pentium-m with the centrino package wireless stuff, asus acpi and whatever else comes in the asus m3n :-)
[08:13] <paulproteus> !vnc
[08:13] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, vnc is http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html
[08:13] <Trashcan> alright que
[08:13] <paulproteus> coz: The !vnc is for you.
[08:13] <tag> paulproteus, how can I verify that the cd isn't messed up?
[08:13] <paulproteus> !nx
[08:13] <ubotu> paulproteus: I haven't a clue
[08:13] <coz> vnc/
[08:14] <paulproteus> tag: How did you burn it?
[08:14] <paulproteus> Did that program have a "Verify" option?
[08:14] <tag> paulproteus, by right clicking on the iso (in nautilus) and hitting "burn to cd"
[08:14] <Madpilot> !burniso
[08:14] <ubotu> For help burning the Ubuntu ISO to CD, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[08:14] <Nealz> Madpilot:  I fixed it. I just need to enable direct rendering
[08:14] <paulproteus> tag: Okay. :)
[08:14] <defendguin> i know i can change the resolution manually but i cant change the color depth
[08:14] <tag> paulproteus, I just stuck it in and it showed up on my nautilus desktop, I double clicked on it -- it looks like it's all there
[08:14] <Madpilot> Nealz: yeah, the ATI drivers can be SOBs, but once they're running they work well
[08:15] <paulproteus> tag: You should run sha1sum breezy-file.iso, and then sha1sum /dev/cdrom , and see if they're the same.
[08:15] <paulproteus> tag: Is it for this computer you wanted the CD, or for another computer?
[08:15] <tag> it's for this computer
[08:15] <Trashcan> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0:<4>hdb: dma_timer_expiry *extra stuff i missed*
[08:15] <Trashcan> is where it hangs :(
[08:15] <Nealz> Madpilot:  sooooo in the wiki, where is it?
[08:16] <paulproteus> tag: Why not just upgrade it via Synaptic, then?
[08:16] <tag> I just installed fedora core (which I fscking hate) so I could download the ISO 'cause my drive a while ago.
[08:16] <Madpilot> Nealz: on the same page as the basic ati info
[08:16] <Madpilot> !tell nealz about ati
[08:16] <Trashcan> i take that back
[08:16] <tag> paulproteus, That would work...I think.
[08:16] <paulproteus> tag: Okay.
[08:16] <paulproteus> !breezyupgrade
[08:16] <ubotu> breezyupgrade is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[08:16] <factotum> wow, this wiki is big, lots of apps
[08:16] <Trashcan> easy solution: i'm disabling RAID :D
[08:17] <paulproteus> Tedd: ...?
[08:17] <tag> paulproteus, this is instructions on upgrading from hoary to breezy
[08:17] <tag> paulproteus, I don't have hoary, I have fedora core
[08:17] <paulproteus> tag: *Oh*, I see.
[08:17] <tag> I *hate* fedora core
[08:18] <tag> I installed it simply to download ubuntu
[08:18] <tag> because my ubuntu hoary cd had too many scratches to install
[08:18] <tag> and I had to give my other computer back to my former employer :-(
[08:18] <tag> and it didn't have a cd burner, anyway
[08:18] <Trashcan> bah, did the ati stuff and i still see Mesa
[08:18] <Trashcan> in fglrxinfo
[08:18] <sixo> Can i get directed in the correct direction to set a fTP server on my ubuntu desktop?
[08:18] <paulproteus> tag: Well, do the sha1sum thing.
[08:19] <paulproteus> sixo: Install the program called vsftpd.
[08:19] <sixo> google it
[08:19] <Madpilot> Trashcan: you might have to do the "reinstall w/ X stopped" (from the command line) thing - in Breezy I do to get my fglrx drivers running :(
[08:19] <Trashcan> ok
[08:19] <tag> paulproteus, waiting for it :-)
[08:19] <Trashcan> i'm gonna actually do the post-install updates first :p
[08:19] <paulproteus> tag: Right. :)
[08:19] <Trashcan> no real reason it wouldn't work, but I *am* doing this on a breezy preview iso install
[08:20] <Trashcan> not the most intelligent thing
[08:20] <Madpilot> Trashcan: yeah, finish the full upgrade/update first, then
[08:21] <Trashcan> 506kbs.... god i love ubuntu repos
[08:22] <sixo> paulproteus: thank you!
[08:22] <Madpilot> Trashcan: dist-upgrading just after Breezy release - when everyone and their dog was upgrading at the same time - was nowhere NEAR that fast :P
[08:23] <Trashcan> yeah :p
[08:23] <Trashcan> closer to 30kbs
[08:23] <Thelen> lol :D
[08:23] <Thelen> i was getting full 1.5mpbs.. :D
[08:23] <Trashcan> :(
[08:23] <Trashcan> i hate capped cable
[08:23] <Thelen> in australia i am tho..
[08:23] <Thelen> lol :D
[08:23] <Trashcan> makes me angrryy
[08:24] <Trashcan> aye, i have a buddy in aus with huuugggee download speeds
[08:24] <tag> my cable is capped at 6mbit down!
[08:24] <Trashcan> makes me jealous
[08:24] <Thelen> lol
[08:24] <Trashcan> i think mine is 5mbit?
[08:24] <Trashcan> maybe 3
[08:24] <tag> normal in this area is 4
[08:24] <tag> but I got some special package
[08:24] <factotum> cant stop...playing...fozen...bubble....gah!!
[08:24] <Trashcan> loll
[08:25] <tag> some super special "For a limited time if you sign up with item X, Y and Z...you get the faster cable!"
[08:25] <tag> When I lived in van, I had 10mbit fiber in my living room
[08:25] <tag> *that* was the shit
[08:26] <wille> is there aby ednkey client for ubuntu???
[08:26] <tag> vancouver is probably the most fibered-up city anywhere
[08:26] <caturOK> hello
[08:26] <bur[n] er> canada is prolly the most fibered up nation
[08:26] <bur[n] er> oc12 everywhere :)
[08:26] <caturOK> help me plz
[08:26] <crash_king> I just did something dumb enough I had to change my nick
[08:26] <caturOK> caturok@caturok:/$ sudo smbpasswd -a system_username
[08:26] <caturOK> New SMB password:
[08:26] <caturOK> Retype new SMB password:
[08:26] <caturOK> Failed to initialise SAM_ACCOUNT for user system_username. Does this user exist in the UNIX password database ?
[08:26] <caturOK> Failed to modify password entry for user system_username
[08:26] <Xenguy> singapore is pretty wired from what I've heard/read
[08:27] <Trashcan> for a state with no natural disasters to speak of, arizona seems to lack any superb isp
[08:27] <wille> hello can you help me
[08:27] <robotgeek> wille: ask away
[08:27] <caturOK> why failed SAM_ACCount
[08:27] <HappyFool> caturOK: please don't paste in here
[08:27] <wille> where i can get an ubuntu edonkey client..
[08:27] <caturOK> ups sory
[08:27] <tag> seattle is so so, problem around here is everybody and their fucking grandmother is online so even the best pipelines are pretty high traffic
[08:27] <HappyFool> caturOK: i think you need a normal unix user with that name first
[08:27] <bur[n] er> wille: amule
[08:27] <robotgeek> wille: enable universe first
[08:28] <HappyFool> caturOK: use 'adduser' to add a user
[08:28] <tag> Ok
[08:28] <tag> !
[08:28] <ubotu> tag: I haven't a clue
[08:28] <crash_king> I need help from someone who has not tweaked thier boot process please?
[08:28] <wille> how can i do that???
[08:28] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell wille about universe
[08:28] <caturOK> u mean adduser samba
[08:28] <HappyFool> caturOK:
[08:28] <HappyFool> aargh
[08:28] <wille> ok thanks.. man..
[08:28] <tag> paulproteus, the sha1sum of /dev/cdrom and ~/Desktop/ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso are *definitely* very different.
[08:28] <HappyFool> caturOK: no, i mean adduser system_user    (or whatever your want)
[08:28] <tag> 01e7e5f6142f6e5b1f1f5581aac53dc30fcc5d65  ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso
[08:28] <robotgeek> tag: it's probably mounted there
[08:28] <paulproteus> tag: Then if /dev/cdrom is your supposed Ubuntu CD, I claim that they're clearly different.
[08:28] <tag> d6a2ba5677bfe3510c07ce7ea8861008d859823e  /dev/cdrom
[08:29] <tag> paulproteus, so something went wrong burning
[08:29] <caturOK> sory i don't i understand what u mean can u explain me
[08:29] <tag> oh fuck I bet I know what it is
[08:29] <paulproteus> tag: Guess so.
[08:29] <caturOK> example plz
[08:29] <Baorc> can someone help me with accessing folders in a network? It asks me to authenticate myself and I give the right credentials but it keeps popping up
[08:29] <tag> hurm, maybe no
 it must have been that frying pan I hit the computer with when it was burning
[08:29] <robotgeek> tag: no profanity here :)
[08:29] <Baorc> this is accessing a microsoft network btw
[08:29] <Trashcan> i had the same problem baorc
[08:30] <tag> maybe not, this is supposed to be a 650MB disk
[08:30] <Baorc> did you fix it or gave up? lol
[08:30] <crash_king> baorc you setup a shared folder ?
[08:30] <Trashcan> gave up :p
[08:30] <HappyFool> caturOK: 'adduser system_user' then 'smbpasswd -a system_user'
[08:30] <Trashcan> it was only on one computer
[08:30] <Trashcan> :(
[08:30] <Baorc> do I have to set one up on my ubuntu box?
[08:30] <HappyFool> caturOK: have you read 'man smbpasswd' ?
[08:30] <Xenguy> caturOK: you have to get to a command-line/prompt, then type the command 'adduser' and also the 'Username' of the account you want to create
[08:30] <TechnicianXP> I'm having a bit of a problem with my soundcard on Ubuntu
[08:30] <tag> paulproteus, are you sure that they're the same when you get the sha1sum of an iso on your fs vs one on an optical device?
[08:30] <Baorc> because I have shares setup on the other 2 computers
[08:30] <crash_king> when I setup a shared on my ubuntu I had that problem
[08:30] <paulproteus> tag: They're certainly supposed to be.
[08:31] <Baorc> yeah i have no shared folders on my ubuntu
[08:31] <slide> yay firefox 1.5 completely locks up my comp every now and then
[08:31] <Baorc> but on my windows boxes i do
[08:31] <Xenguy> caturOK: you probably need to prepend 'sudo' also
[08:31] <crash_king> i just got rid of shared on ubuntu and reinstall simba
[08:31] <caturOK> ooo i try first
[08:31] <tag> I hope it's not the fault of this relatively messed up cdrom
[08:31] <crash_king> that fixed it
[08:31] <caturOK> thanx anyway sir
[08:31] <tag> paulproteus, you think my burning method is possibly flawed?  (Like maybe nautilus screwed it up?)
[08:31] <Baorc> well i installed samba
[08:31] <vbgunz> how do you use --exclude with tar?
[08:31] <crash_king> I just put stuff on the windows shared folders
[08:31] <vbgunz> im having problems trying to exclude all files that end in ~
[08:32] <Baorc> yeah but i cant even access those from ubuntu
[08:32] <Baorc> thats what im having troubles with
[08:32] <paulproteus> tag: Try lowering the burning speed.
[08:32] <paulproteus> There's a way to do a hard drive install if you'd rather.
[08:32] <Baorc> accessing from ubtuntu to windows and i know the shares work
[08:32] <HappyFool> tag: i think it is advisable to use 'dd' to first copy the iso image to a hard-drive, and first check the sizes match before using md5sum/sha1sum
[08:32] <crash_king> I use samba to get to them I just got rid of my shared folder on ubutnu
[08:32] <paulproteus> HappyFool: If you say so.  I've been Linuxing for six years and never heard that. :)
[08:32] <caturOK> Use the `--force-badname' <---- error
[08:32] <Baorc> but why does it keep asking me for a user name and password for user@ubtuntu on domain MSHOME
[08:32] <HappyFool> tag: or to at least confirm that the size match. i've frequently have extra or too few blocks on a cdrom image, but it was essentially fine
[08:33] <Baorc> given that user stands for my username
[08:33] <tag> paulproteus, there is?
[08:33] <paulproteus> tag: It's complicated.
[08:33] <paulproteus> I've done a little.
[08:33] <tag> how complicated?
[08:33] <crash_king> I dont know I just know it only did that when I had the shared setup on ubuntu
[08:33] <paulproteus> It's a neat stunt, though.
[08:33] <paulproteus> tag: The easiest way to do it involves erasing your whole hard drive.  Are you okay with that?
[08:34] <Baorc> so how would I get rid of my shared folder on ubuntu?
[08:34] <crash_king> I still setup samba and use the windows network I just dont put a shared folder on my ubuntu machine
[08:34] <paulproteus> tag: Also, do you have another working Linux Live CD around?
[08:34] <tag> paulproteus, no, I only have this blasted fedora core installer
[08:34] <tag> wait, I have caldera linux from 1998
[08:34] <paulproteus> Um, whoa.
[08:34] <tag> I bought it at PC-Recycle earlier this afternoon
[08:34] <Trashcan> lol
[08:34] <Trashcan> nice coaster
[08:34] <tag> needless to say, it didn't get me online ;-)
[08:35] <tag> which is why I ended up getting fedora from my friend
[08:35] <paulproteus> tag: What problem do you have with your Ubuntu CD?
[08:35] <paulproteus> Does it boot at all?
[08:35] <robotgeek> tag: maybe you should hold on to it, and sell it after 10 years :)
[08:35] <tag> paulproteus, sort of!
[08:35] <paulproteus> Right, but it crashes in init scripts.
[08:35] <paulproteus> Now I remember.
[08:35] <tag> it starts up, hits the boot loader.  I press enter (or server, tried both ways)
[08:35] <tag> and it starts booting
[08:35] <crash_king> could someone please give me some screenshots of their boot dameons and the run levels?
[08:35] <vbgunz> how do I view files that end in ~?
[08:35] <tag> gets part way through the ACPI checks and then freezes up and my CPU fan kicks on
[08:36] <paulproteus> Um, ykes.
[08:36] <paulproteus> yikes, even.
[08:36] <robotgeek> vbgunz: \~<tab>
[08:36] <Trashcan> i foud a new solution to jagged fonts that doesn't require anti aliasing
[08:36] <Trashcan> take your glasses off :o
[08:36] <vbgunz> robotgeek: put that in console?
[08:36] <robotgeek> vbgunz: yup, escape the ~ with a \, to you would type \~filename
[08:36] <paulproteus> tag: Do you mind erasing your hard drive?
[08:37] <tag> no
[08:37] <tag> not one bit :-)
[08:37] <tag> it's a brand new drive I installed it this afternoon, there's nothing important here
[08:37] <vbgunz> robotgeek: ... some of the files on the system end with a ~ . Those files are almost impossible to see... Is there a switch somewhere I can flip to see them all / hide them all?
[08:38] <robotgeek> vbgunz: i don't know of any. rename all of them to start with a '.' ?
[08:38] <paulproteus> tag: I have some instructions for you to follow.
[08:39] <paulproteus> They're a little twisted, but they should get the job done.
[08:39] <tag> yeah I copied the iso off the disk
[08:39] <tag> and they're totally different sizes
[08:39] <paulproteus> tag: Right.
[08:39] <paulproteus> It probably aborted early-on.
[08:39] <vbgunz> robotgeek: no way, I'll have so many, I'll go crazy :P... the ~ on the end is sort of a temp file... Would you know how to delete all files that end with a ~?
[08:39] <paulproteus> tag: Easiest would be to try the burn again at e.g. a lower speed.
[08:39] <paulproteus> tag: If you have another CD, that's what I'd do.
[08:40] <tag> actually the copy off the disk is larger than the other
[08:40] <robotgeek> vbgunz: bash script/krename
[08:40] <tag> ...
[08:40] <tag> paulproteus, I have one more cd
[08:40] <paulproteus> tag: Wow, that makes very little sense.
[08:40] <paulproteus> tag: Then give it a shot, at slow speed.
[08:40] <paulproteus> Like 4x, to be safe. (-;
[08:40] <HappyFool> tag: can you mount the CD ?
[08:41] <HappyFool> you can run md5sum on the md5sum.txt in the root directory of the CD
[08:41] <paulproteus> tag: I'm going to go to bed.  You don't want to do the hard drive install method unless it's all you can do, trust me. (-;
[08:41] <Xenguy> vbgunz: you want to delete backup copies recursively?
[08:42] <Xenguy> vbgunz: or just those files in a single direct
[08:42] <Xenguy> ory
[08:43] <vbgunz> Xenguy: actually I am trying not to include them with a tar backup *but* I think I created a few tar backups that end in ~ and I don't see them... Just trying to exclude them but am having trouble excluding... If need be, I'll resort to killing all files that end in ~ otherwise if I can just see them now, I'll be happy...
[08:43] <tag> paulproteus, Ok
[08:43] <tag> I'm burning at 4x
[08:43] <tag> if this doesn't work
[08:43] <tag> I'll do you're install from hard drive trick
[08:43] <tag> :-)
[08:43] <paulproteus> tag: Then I'll be safe in bed where you can't get me. (-;
[08:43] <Trashcan> lawl
[08:44] <WildPenguin> vbgunz, use 'ls -s | grep ~' to see backups in the current dir
[08:44] <tag> paulproteus, where are the instructions?
[08:44] <WildPenguin> sorry, 'ls -a | grep ~'
[08:44] <derek[] > Hi
[08:44] <paulproteus> tag: Nowhere, as far as I know.
[08:44] <tag> paulproteus, how do I go about it?
[08:44] <tag> :-)
[08:44] <derek[] > I'm playing a CD
[08:45] <paulproteus> It's a twisted thing that's in my head.  I have done it before (albeit using the Debian installer, but it's the same architecture).
[08:45] <derek[] > why is the sound so low?
[08:45] <derek[] > I've increased the volume to FULL
[08:45] <tag> oh
[08:45] <tag> ok.
[08:45] <vbgunz> WildPenguin: thanks but it pulls up nothing although the new backups are exploding in size... :(
[08:45] <tag> paulproteus, how would I do it?
[08:46] <derek[] > Anybody?
[08:46] <paulproteus> tag: You take the memcard install image and dd it onto your hard drive.
[08:46] <derek[] > Hi Technicianz
[08:46] <paulproteus> Starting at sector zero.
[08:46] <paulproteus> You then mount what you just created and wget an ISO, so it has some packages.
[08:46] <paulproteus> Then you reboot.
[08:46] <vbgunz> why in the worlds does excluding a wildcard such as something *~ have to be so hard with tar? I checked the help and it doesn't help... :(
[08:47] <tag> haha!  this is going to be fun
[08:47] <WS> any of you ever seen the system go too fast on every program?
[08:47] <paulproteus> tag: That's what you say *now*. (-;
[08:47] <paulproteus> vbgunz: I know what you mean.  I'd just use a GUI for tarring.
[08:47] <paulproteus> WS: In DOS days, sure.
[08:47] <WS> even the system clock is moving at near double speed
[08:47] <WS> video plays too fast
[08:47] <WS> etc.
[08:47] <derek[] > Why is the sound of the audio CD playing so low??
[08:47] <paulproteus> WS: Uh....
[08:47] <paulproteus> That's sorta creepy.
[08:47] <WS> haha
[08:47] <WS> no kidding
[08:48] <tag> a 650mb drive should hold this iso properly yeah
[08:48] <derek[] > I've increased the volume to FULL
[08:48] <vbgunz> paulproteus: yeah, I would use the GUI too but unfortunately I am trying to write a backup script that would exclude those ~ files... now I am afraid I made backups end in ~ and I can't see them... that sucks and blows :(
[08:48] <paulproteus> tag: If you can do it to a *separate* hard drive, then you'll be okay.
[08:48] <tag> paulproteus, what if I just dd'd the iso right onto my hard drive?
[08:48] <tag> I can't
[08:48] <tag> it's a laptop
[08:48] <WildPenguin> vbgunz, yet another correction to that command: 'ls -a | grep *~' ;)
[08:48] <paulproteus> tag: The ISO won't boot on a hard drive.
[08:48] <Madpilot> tag: the current breezy install iso is about 620Mb
[08:48] <paulproteus> That's why you need the flash-drive image dd'd to the hard drive.
[08:49] <Trashcan> hmm
[08:49] <paulproteus> vbgunz: Maybe you can use 'find' to create a list of files you want, and give that to tar somehow.
[08:49] <Trashcan> what was that someone said about the ati drivers?
[08:49] <david_> I have a question about inetutils-inetd.  I seem to have it running, but I don't see a /etc/inetd.conf file.  Is this right, and if so, how do I configure internet services?
[08:49] <vbgunz> WildPenguin: thanks, it still doesn't pull anything up :(
[08:49] <Trashcan> update finally finished
[08:49] <Madpilot> !tell Trashcan about ati
[08:49] <Trashcan> i got that, madpilot..
[08:49] <Trashcan> xorg.conf shows fglrx, but fglrxinfo still shows mesa
[08:49] <Xenguy> WildPenguin: is this not sufficient ?  ls *~
[08:49] <vbgunz> paulproteus: it should be really simple... I only need to exclude files that end in ~
[08:49] <HappyFool> david_: is it not maybe /etc/xinet* ?
[08:49] <tag> paulproteus, oh...ok
[08:49] <Madpilot> Trashcan: I thought you had, but wanted to be sure ;)
[08:49] <david_> Let me look . . .
[08:49] <Trashcan> :)
[08:50] <Trashcan> 'Extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"'
[08:50] <paulproteus> tag: That's a good sign (?).
[08:50] <david_> don't see anything under /etc/xinet*
[08:50] <tag> I dunno you said burn it slower
[08:50] <paulproteus> david_: xinetd is preferred to inetd.
[08:50] <paulproteus> I suggest xinetd over inetd.
[08:50] <tag> 4x is apparently a *lot* slower than I was burning it at before
[08:51] <PokerFacePenguin> tag: u _did_ say it was your last cd :)
[08:51] <paulproteus> tag: I know.  It's just funny that slow burning is a good sign. :)
[08:51] <david_> paulproteus:  Just install it?
[08:51] <hydroksyde> paulproteus: It's not transparently compatible though
[08:51] <Technicianz> Hey guys would anyone know how to set your default OS in the GRUB config file?
[08:51] <WildPenguin> Xenguy, that appears to work too, forget things so easily when dont use it much recently :)
[08:51] <paulproteus> hydroksyde: I don't think david_ needs transparent compatibility.
[08:51] <tag> hope this works ok.
[08:51] <paulproteus> david_: Remove inetd first.
[08:51] <paulproteus> tag: Me, too.
[08:51] <tag> I really don't want fedora core for too long
[08:51] <hydroksyde> some other programs use inetd.conf
[08:51] <Xenguy> WildPenguin: yeah, it can be hard to remember unless you use it a lot
[08:51] <tag> 'cause, well, redhat is really horrible
[08:52] <david_> paulproteus: The thing that has me stumped is where did it go?  doesnt the program inetutils-inetd use the inetd.conf file?
[08:52] <tag> never been much of a redhat person, when redhat was cool and new I was using FreeBSD.
[08:52] <factotum> im getting this error when trying to open firefox or galeon:  I could not load the bookmarks file, will load the default bookmarks from /usr/share/galeon/default-bookmarks.xbel.
[08:52] <factotum> INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: Could not get the plugin manager
[08:52] <factotum> System error?:: Success
[08:52] <factotum> sorry for the flood
[08:52] <factotum> can anyone help?
[08:53] <paulproteus> Bedtime for me.
[08:53] <tag> I'm going to go get some beers this is going to take a while
[08:53] <david_> 'nite paul,
[08:53] <factotum> I get INTERNAL ERROR with both firefox and galeon
[08:53] <factotum> so now im pretty much stuck with lynx as a web browser for now
[08:53] <david_> Does anyone understand why inetd.conf isn't there?
[08:54] <pepsi> because inetd isnt there
[08:54] <david_> pepsi: uhuh.
[08:54] <david_> pepsi: Why then is inetutils-inetd working?
[08:54] <pepsi> i dunno
[08:55] <PokerFacePenguin> factotum: u been messing with java?
[08:55] <david_> pepsi: I'm looking for someone who _does_ know, sorry I wasn't clear
[08:55] <factotum> PokerFacePenguin: yeah i was in the wiki following how to install it
[08:55] <pepsi> david_, i love you too
[08:56] <PokerFacePenguin> factotum: http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=570700&start=0
[08:56] <david_> pepsi, big kiss . .. out of here.
[08:56] <factotum> PokerFacePenguin: id love to read that if I could open it
[08:56] <PokerFacePenguin> factotum: thats the root of the prob
[08:56] <derek[] > damn low sound :((
[08:57] <PokerFacePenguin> factotum: now that really bites..lets see if i can translate for ya real quick
[08:58] <Trashcan> joy
[08:58] <Trashcan> a blank screen
[08:58] <hydroksyde> w00t
[08:58] <Trashcan> with a flashing cursor in the corner
[08:58] <hydroksyde> well it's not blank then, is it?
[08:58] <jim_hough> anyone know a good setup for watching video on tv-out for a radeon 9600?
[08:59] <Trashcan> and this is why linux is not a major contender in the desktop market
[08:59] <hydroksyde> it's like those pages in exams that say "This page intentionally left blank"
[08:59] <Trashcan> lol
[08:59] <Trashcan> except that instead of at the end
[08:59] <Trashcan> this is at boot
[08:59] <Trashcan> before boot, actually
[08:59] <hydroksyde> sounds like something's wrong
[08:59] <Trashcan> does sound like it, doesn't it
[08:59] <hydroksyde> unless it's just a waiting screen
[09:00] <hydroksyde> other desktop OSes break too... and they are still major contenders in the desktop market
[09:00] <Trashcan> they break in less... 'wtf' ways though
[09:00] <hydroksyde> but perhaps you could explain your problem in more detail, then maybe somebody might be able to assist you
[09:00] <Trashcan> well
[09:01] <Trashcan> grub does it's uncompressing thing
[09:01] <Trashcan> screen goes blank
[09:01] <Trashcan> the end
[09:01] <Trashcan> :p
[09:01] <Trashcan> i'm booting in recovery atm
[09:01] <hydroksyde> I have very little experience with grub, but it sounds like either your kernel or bootloader has issues
[09:01] <factotum> i did take a pic a while back of a side to side with 3 systems, the win blue-screen, the mac grey-screen, and a linux kernelpanic at boot, all side by side at the same table. It was a great wallpaper
[09:01] <Trashcan> :p
[09:02] <Trashcan> hydroksyde : nice thing is that all i did was 1) stop gdm, 2) reinstall xorg-driver-fglrx, 3) reboot
[09:02] <hydroksyde> oh.... that's odd
[09:02] <Madpilot> factotum: it must be interesting, having all three OSes, all failing at once :)
[09:03] <factotum> it was pure chance i think
[09:03] <Madpilot> Trashcan: do you have the linux-restricted-module installed too?
[09:03] <Trashcan> yea
[09:03] <z3r0_d> when installing, after the reboot if the installer fails at some point [I now boot to a terminal]  how do I resume the installer?
[09:03] <hydroksyde> factotum: If they all failed at once, it was probably an issue with power
[09:04] <Trashcan> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-386
[09:05] <factotum> well the kernel panic screen had been there a while sitting and waiting, InDesign crashed osx, and windows...well, ya know
[09:05] <hydroksyde> heh
[09:05] <Trashcan> what ver? ME?
 Blue Screen of Death, Grey Display of Doom and Plain Text of Destruction
 I like it
[09:05] <Trashcan> lol
[09:06] <Sneaky_Bastard> I put that in the wrong channel, sorry
[09:06] <factotum> plain text of destruction...haha
[09:06] <PokerFacePenguin> factotum: try http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5321
[09:06] <hydroksyde> factotum:: Do you think you can put the pic on the web somewhere?
[09:06] <Trashcan> woot, fixed
[09:07] <Trashcan> kind of
[09:07] <Kumakun> Anyone run into problems installing with the pressed CDs? I'm getting an error that tells me there's no usable kernal image.
[09:07] <PokerFacePenguin> factotum: pasted it there to prevent flooding
[09:07] <chapium> does anyone know how to remove gnome-games from ubuntu?
[09:07] <mandu> hallo
[09:08] <santiman> hallo
[09:08] <HappyFool> chapium: have you tried using synaptic to uninstall it ?
[09:08] <chapium> i've just looked at the gui
[09:08] <Trashcan> oh wooooot
[09:08] <Trashcan> drivers installed
[09:09] <chapium> it complains that other things are dependent on it
[09:09] <Trashcan> glxgears runs at a reasonable speed..... yayyyyyyy
[09:09] <Madpilot> hydroksyde: who much RAM does that dinosaur have?
[09:09] <derek[] > %BI've increased the volume to FULL
[09:09] <derek[] > oops
[09:09] <PokerFacePenguin> chapium: how about sudo apt-get --purge packagename
[09:09] <derek[] > /dev/hda2 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[09:10] <derek[] > what is this "errors" ?
[09:10] <z3r0_d> does anyone know how to resume the installer after you boot off the hd the first time?
[09:10] <HappyFool> chapium: what? should be ubuntu-desktop and gnome-games-data ?
[09:10] <chapium> PokerFacePenguin, if i'm getting warnings about dependencies, i'm a bit wary of forcing it out
[09:12] <PokerFacePenguin> chapium: then what harm is it doing by keeping it?  it would be safer
[09:12] <PokerFacePenguin> you could remove the menu items if it is just an eyesore
[09:12] <hydroksyde> Madpilot: 128MB probably
[09:12] <chapium> i simply do not want it on there
[09:12] <chapium> its a distraction essentially
[09:13] <hydroksyde> Madpilot: I'll put in as much as I need, but I'm just wondering if the processor's going to run it alright
[09:13] <Madpilot> hydroksyde: probably
[09:13] <Pilgrim> the screen res problem....in breezy...would it disappear if i used an older version?
[09:14] <hydroksyde> It doesn't run well on Qemu with kqemu, 128MB of RAM > Slackware > Sempron 2200
[09:14] <Pilgrim> i couldnt fix it (im using a livecd)..so if i download an older one, would that work?
[09:14] <PokerFacePenguin> chapium: havent tried it myself, but i hear debfoster is good at tracking down that kinda stuff
[09:15] <hydroksyde> Nobody really seems to be able to give me a definite answer... Some other guy set it was very slow on his 566Mhz celeron, but I suspect he had problems since my friend got it to run nicely on his 500Mhz cel
[09:15] <chapium> so silly, this is why linux seems so dumb at times
[09:15] <Anpu> hihi anyone awake?
[09:16] <chapium> you try to remove gnome-games, and it requires you to remove ubuntu-desktop
[09:16] <factotum> PokerFacePenguin: in that ln -s command, where should the space be? /YOUR JAVA_________________________________________________ DIRECTORY/jre1.5.0_05/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so__
[09:16] <chapium> thats so backwards
[09:16] <hydroksyde> chapium: There are some distros that don't do dependancy checking.... but there's probably a way to force apt to remove the package
[09:16] <chapium> i'll try the purge option
[09:16] <factotum> PokerFacePenguin: thats just one long dir
[09:16] <chapium> my linux environment is expendable atm
[09:16] <PokerFacePenguin> chapium: take a look here http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/tag/administration/
[09:17] <Madpilot> chapium: ubuntu-desktop is just a meta-pack, it's safe to remove, AFAIK
[09:18] <owner989> why doesnt ubuntu come with alsaconf
[09:18] <owner989> that is such a useful program
[09:18] <Anpu> I just did the install and i cannot seem to log in as root and did not get a prompt to set up a root passwd during install anyone know how to get switched?
[09:18] <chapium> nice link PokerFacePenguin
[09:18] <PokerFacePenguin> factotum: i googled that and found it in a forum for you but closed that window
[09:19] <PokerFacePenguin> chapium: np
[09:19] <tonyyarusso> I'm wondering how I can transfer very large files to my roommate.  One thought was an ad-hoc wireless network; how would I do that?  (I have an Intel Pro/Wireless 2915 ABG internal wireless card.)
[09:19] <zorba64> !root
[09:19] <ubotu> well, root is rumour has it, that root is disabled in Ubuntu, actually this means there is no password set for the root account, use sudo when you need admin access, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:19] <factotum> ah alright
[09:20] <tonyyarusso> The other was maybe with USB or something.  What happens if you hook two computers together straight with a USB cable?  Do they register each others' hard drives as a removable drive?
[09:20] <owner989> im using the 686smp kernel now, is there a performance benefit
[09:20] <owner989> over 386
[09:21] <tonyyarusso> (By the way, my roommate is running Windows, if that complicates anything.)
[09:22] <PokerFacePenguin> factotum: found it in history here http://mandrake-mandriva.news-view.co.uk/topic-236.html
[09:22] <Cryptid> does XFX Geforce 6600 or 6200 have any compatibility issues with Ubuntu?????
[09:23] <owner989> no crypt
[09:23] <Anpu> oooook is there a reason for disabeling the root?
[09:23] <Cryptid> owner989, are u using 1
[09:23] <PokerFacePenguin> factotum: problem solution looks to be the same here http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/31/2005/07/1/324967
[09:23] <owner989> nvidia releases linux drivers crypt
[09:23] <Cryptid> oh ok
[09:24] <Fujitsu> Anpu: Yes.
[09:24] <factotum> thanks!
[09:24] <chapium> hmm whats the difference between synaptics "mark for removal" and "mark for complete removal" ?
[09:24] <Hobbsee> !tell Anpu about root
[09:24] <Fujitsu> chapium: I believe complete removes configs...
[09:24] <chapium> Fujitsu, ah, that makes sense
[09:24] <robotgeek> chapium: complete removal = purge = remove configs
[09:25] <zorba64> Anpu: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:25] <chapium> robotgeek, thanks!
[09:26] <Anpu> ok well i'll give this a try going to be weard for me though ^_^
[09:27] <hussam> anybody using openoffice.org2 1.9.129 sees this bug? Sometimes when I insert a picture, resize it, save as .doc and exit, after I reopen the file, the picture gets unresized.
[09:27] <tris622ph> how do i run a divx file? i use totem media player. what package do i have to install?
[09:27] <tag> damnit the same thing
[09:28] <tag> it starts up, gets to "ACPI Subsystem revision XXXX"
[09:28] <tag> and then freezes
[09:28] <Fujitsu> tag: What is wrong?
[09:28] <owner989> tris i recommend you get automatix http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66563&highlight=ati+driver
[09:28] <tag> I'm trying to install ubuntu
[09:28] <tag> breezy
[09:28] <tag> I've downloaded it and burnt it twice
[09:28] <Fujitsu> tag: ACPI is being nasty?
[09:28] <owner989> whats the issue tag
[09:29] <zorba64> !divx
[09:29] <ubotu> [restricted]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[09:29] <tag> When I reboot, it gets to ACPI Subsystem revision <XXXX>
[09:29] <tag> and croaks.
[09:29] <zorba64> !FreeFormats
[09:29] <ubotu> freeformats is, like, There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[09:29] <Fujitsu> tag: There is a switch for disabling ACPI, have you tried that
[09:29] <Fujitsu> ?
[09:29] <tag> Fujitsu, no.
[09:29] <tag> ?
[09:30] <tag> why would that work don't I need ACPI?
[09:30] <Fujitsu> You don't need ACPI.
[09:30] <owner989> what kind of PC do you have tag
[09:30] <tris622ph> what package to install in order to play a divx file?
[09:30] <tag> owner989, I have an Asus M3N laptop
[09:30] <Fujitsu> Try adding acpi=off to the boot prompt.
[09:30] <Fujitsu> Ahh
[09:30] <Fujitsu> I know that laptop!
[09:30] <tag> It's been nice to me so far :-)
[09:30] <tag> insane battery life with the second battery
[09:30] <Fujitsu> tag, a friend had issues with Ubuntu on that. They needed a BIOS upgrade to get it to work with ACPI.
[09:31] <owner989> that laptop should have a good bios setup options
[09:31] <tag> used to run debian on it but the drive fried.
[09:31] <tag> Fujitsu, a bios upgrade?
[09:31] <Fujitsu> tag, turn off ACPI or get a BIOS upgrade from ASUS.
[09:31] <Fujitsu> ASUS has it on their website.
[09:31] <tag> I don't want to turn off ACPI
[09:31] <owner989> in the bios it should be set so that IRQ is setup by os
[09:31] <owner989> not bios
[09:31] <Fujitsu> My friend's dodgy BIOS was the issue, updating it made it work fine!
[09:32] <tag> I'll try both!
[09:32] <Fujitsu> tag: OK!
[09:32] <owner989> and while installing unplug USB peripherals
[09:32] <owner989> my canon USB printer causes kernel errors if its turned on while installing
[09:32] <tag> I have no USB stuff
[09:32] <tag> atleast not plugged in
[09:33] <zorba64> tris622ph: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:33] <tag> hope this works I'm getting sick of fedora
[09:33] <Fujitsu> tag: Fedora isn't particularly good.
[09:35] <tag> fedora sucks man
[09:35] <tag> I've had it only for a few hours and I'm already losing my mind
[09:35] <tag> Fujitsu, do you know which bios upgrade it was?
[09:35] <Fujitsu> tag: The latest.
[09:35] <owner989> you will have to goto the manufacturers site
[09:36] <tag> I am there
[09:36] <Fujitsu> Yeah, on the ASUS site, it is fairly easy to find.
[09:36] <tag> and I'm finding this quite confusing
[09:36] <Fujitsu> What is the URL?
[09:36] <tag> http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-us
[09:36] <Fujitsu> tag: I will help you sort it out...
[09:37] <Fujitsu> Product: Notebook.
[09:37] <tag> crap looks like I need dos to run this?
[09:38] <Fujitsu> tag: Sort of, yes.
[09:38] <tag> what does sort of mean
[09:38] <tris622ph> how about an xvid file format, since xvid is an open source
[09:38] <tag> I don't have windows, never have.
[09:38] <Fujitsu> tag: I think you do...
[09:38] <Fujitsu> tag: Yes.
[09:38] <Fujitsu> You do.
[09:38] <Fujitsu> And it doesn't have a floppy drive, does it?
[09:38] <tag> Nope
[09:39] <owner989> tris662ph http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66563&highlight=ati+driver
[09:39] <Deanodriver> hi
[09:39] <tag> and I'm out of CDs
[09:39] <Deanodriver> does anyone know how to repartition an external usb hard drive?
[09:39] <owner989> use cfdisk deano
[09:40] <Deanodriver> what is the device?
[09:40] <Fujitsu> tag: Not looking good, then. You will just have to use acpi=off until you can get a DOS bootable CD.
[09:40] <Deanodriver> is it /dev/hd*
[09:40] <tag> ok, first things first I'll try owner989's suggestion, then I'll disable ACPI until I can figure out wtf is up with it...wierd, I never had any trouble with ACPI in Debian :-X
[09:40] <Deanodriver> it automounted at /media/usbdisk
[09:40] <tag> in fact it worked better than good
[09:40] <Deanodriver> but i don't know what device it's called
[09:40] <tag> even the shortcut keys above the keyboard worked
[09:40] <tag> :-)
[09:40] <Fujitsu> Deanodriver: Type mount.
[09:40] <robotgeek> Deanodriver: most probably /dev/sda1
[09:41] <Deanodriver> /dev/sda is my sata drive
[09:41] <Fujitsu> tag: My friend was able to even use the LEDs.
[09:41] <owner989> you can tell by comparing the sizes deano
[09:41] <Deanodriver> usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[09:41] <robotgeek> Deanodriver: type 'mount'
[09:41] <tag> same here!
[09:41] <Fujitsu> Good, tag.
[09:41] <tag> but that was then and this is now
[09:42] <Deanodriver> so would it be that usbfs one?
[09:42] <Fujitsu> Ubuntu has a newer kernel, and probably breaks the dodgy ACPI.
[09:42] <Fujitsu> Deanodriver: No.
[09:42] <Deanodriver> oh
[09:42] <Fujitsu> Deanodriver: The one that is mounted on /media/usbdisk
[09:42] <Deanodriver> bingo
[09:42] <Deanodriver> got it
[09:42] <Deanodriver> /dev/sdb1
[09:42] <Fujitsu> Deanodriver: Good.
[09:42] <Deanodriver> thanks
[09:42] <Deanodriver> :)
[09:43] <Deanodriver> (forgot i had it switched off)
[09:43] <Deanodriver> now to repartition it so i can use it on my ubuntu system, and windows machines
[09:43] <WS> use ufs universal file system
[09:43] <WS> jk jkjk
[09:43] <Deanodriver> lol
[09:43] <Deanodriver> i was just going to use fat32, got little choice, really
[09:43] <Deanodriver> only a 40GB drive in it
[09:43] <WS> I know :P
[09:44] <WS> fat32 is about the only stable method
[09:44] <drumline> yeah... use UFS...
[09:44] <WS> if you can call it stable :P
[09:44] <drumline> FAT32 is a very stable method
[09:44] <Deanodriver> W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[09:44] <Deanodriver> ?
[09:44] <Deanodriver> or W95 Ext'd
[09:44] <zottty> I just installed an Ubuntu, I use a netwrok connection trough UPC Cable ( without authentication, it authenticates me by my MAC address ) I just can't set it up. Help me please
[09:44] <Fujitsu> FAT32
[09:44] <Deanodriver> which one?
[09:44] <Deanodriver> oh
[09:44] <Deanodriver> 0C
[09:44] <drumline> hmm.. not sure..   LBA should work... try it out.
[09:44] <owner989> are you using a router zottty
[09:45] <zottty> owner989: no router
[09:45] <drumline> Just partition it... format it with windows.
[09:45] <Deanodriver> ok
[09:45] <Deanodriver> how would i remove grub from it?
[09:45] <drumline> Install windows and it'll blow away Grub
[09:45] <Deanodriver> from the MBR
[09:45] <Deanodriver> ok
[09:45] <zottty> owner989: i have direct connection to the modem. But I am very newby to cable connections, i had DSL before
[09:45] <Deanodriver> i'm not intending to install an OS on it
[09:45] <drumline> if windows is already installed, then there's a command you can use on the recovery console
[09:46] <Deanodriver> maybe i'll just plug into the windows machine and fdisk /mbr
[09:46] <_null> zottty, do you get an ip via dhcp from the modem?
[09:46] <drumline> something like: MBRreset...
[09:46] <sklav> !mp3
[09:46] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats.
[09:46] <drumline> i forget
[09:46] <saik0> Does'nt https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats tell you to add debian rpos?
[09:46] <Deanodriver> WroNo primary partitions are marked bootable. DOS MBR cannot boot this
[09:47] <Deanodriver> hmm
[09:47] <Deanodriver> is that ok?
[09:47] <drumline> deano: is there an OS on the drive?
[09:47] <Deanodriver> removing ubuntu from it
[09:47] <drumline> deano: that's fine...
[09:47] <Deanodriver> (it was my OS drive, but I upgraded)
[09:47] <drumline> you're installing ubuntu on another drive?
[09:47] <Deanodriver> shall i set the bootable flag? or not?
[09:48] <Deanodriver> i have installed ubuntu on another drive
[09:48] <drumline> will you be booting with that drive?
[09:48] <Deanodriver> which is what I'm running atm
[09:48] <dash> _woot_
[09:48] <owner989> he probably does null
[09:48] <drumline> don't worry about the flags if you wont be booting from it..
[09:48] <Deanodriver> basically, in the system, i had 3 pata drives, took the one with the OS out and replaced it with a sata drive, which i put ubuntu on
[09:48] <HappyFool> ello dash
[09:48] <dash> just got hdaps and fglrx to work at the same time
[09:48] <Deanodriver> now i bought an external case, and putting the old OS drive into it for file stash
[09:48] <zottty> _null: I am stupid for this cable connection. In windows, it's plug and play :) But in linux, it sais, network is unreacable. I thin DHCP, cause i don't have to enter ani ip/dns/anything
[09:48] <dash> i am playing neverball by rotating my laptop!
[09:49] <Deanodriver> thanks for that
[09:49] <Madpilot> saik0: unless it's changed recently, it tells you to enable one Debian repo, get a file or two, then disable the repo again
[09:49] <Deanodriver> brb, going to plug it into a windows machine
[09:49] <dash> HappyFool: hiya.
[09:49] <owner989> zottty just needs to change his mac address
[09:49] <owner989> for his network card
[09:49] <HappyFool> dash: so your laptop is now a gyro?
[09:49] <drumline> deano: ahh. ok..   you can have 4 primary partitions.  One must be set "active" so the comp picks it to boot...
[09:50] <dash> HappyFool: yes! the new hdaps kernel module enables it
[09:50] <drumline> I dunno if it's a bootloader thing that picks the active partition or the BIOS...   *shrug*
[09:50] <owner989> its the bootloader drumline
[09:50] <dash> HappyFool: i probably should use it for something like, i dunno, parking my hard drive heads
[09:50] <dash> but where's the fun in that
[09:50] <zottty> could you tell me, how to gather any information for eth0 and eth1. I have two cards, and i need the nvidia card to connect ( i am masq-ing the subnet trough the other card)
[09:50] <drumline> owner: cool...  thought so... thanks :)
[09:50] <drumline> owner: amazing cycle isn't it?   booting
[09:51] <saik0> Madpilot, hmm it was changed (again) Now it just links to w32codecs from Marrilat (much better)
[09:51] <drumline> starting the computer from the 'bootstraps'  :)
[09:51] <owner989> lol
[09:51] <robotgeek> saik0: did they update the package or something?
[09:52] <drumline> heh.. that's so funny...  the reason is called "booting"
[09:52] <dash> HappyFool: unfortunately fglrx is still as buggy as ever and i'm getting kernel panics on a regular basis
[09:52] <dash> so it's still just a tech demo :)
[09:52] <saik0> robotgeek, what do you mean? You wont find w32codecs in any official ubuntu repo
[09:52] <drumline> anyone ever use SNARE here?
[09:52] <Madpilot> saik0: good
[09:53] <_null> zottty, try dmes | grep eth
[09:53] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell saik0 about w32codecs
[09:53] <robotgeek> zottty: dmesg
[09:53] <owner989> zottty http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/net/macchanger
[09:53] <zottty> _null: thx. i try it. reboot. bye. thx4all
[09:53] <WS> or
[09:53] <WS> download the deb
[09:54] <WS> and rpm it
[09:54] <WS> =)
[09:54] <zottty> owner: I will do it with ipconfig, thanks :)
[09:54] <HappyFool> dash: sounds cool :-)
[09:54] <owner989> its too bad canon doesnt release linux drivers
[09:54] <saik0> robotgeek, cute. yes the wiki now tell you to get ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb and dpkg -i it
[09:55] <owner989> thats really bad considering how well known canon is
[09:55] <robotgeek> saik0: yes, i know that. i was wondering if they changed the package or something. nvm
[09:55] <WS> what's canon?
[09:56] <robotgeek> WS: canon is a printer company
[09:56] <WS> ahh =)
[09:56] <owner989> printers, scanners, cameras ec
[09:56] <owner989> etc
[09:56] <stijn> hallo
[09:57] <Madpilot> owner989: yeah, I nearly bought a Canon inkjet earlier this year; bought an HP instead for Linux support
[09:57] <owner989> i have an mp 130 that i got for free as a replacement for the lexmark that failed under warranty
[09:58] <owner989> but it doesnt work in linux
[09:58] <drumline> fools...  It's not hard to get linux support; release the spec and somebody will write a driver.
[09:58] <drumline> owner: does it have a network port?
[09:59] <owner989> its usb
[09:59] <Madpilot> drumline: yeah, or in HP's case: sponser a sourceforge project for your stuff...
[09:59] <drumline> I was impressed with my Dell 3100cn...   that sucker prints with the RAW data and Postscript...  no other driver needed.
[09:59] <drumline> Madpilot: very very smart move.
[10:00] <Madpilot> drumline: I gather that even HP's all-in-one units - printer+scanner - work in Linux now...
[10:02] <Deanodriver> got it formatted with a 28GB partition
[10:02] <Deanodriver> now i've gotta resize it to the full 37GB
[10:02] <Deanodriver> (can't do it in windows, only offers ntfs)
[10:02] <Deanodriver> and wipe the MBR
[10:02] <DaOne> hey pplz, does any1 know any way to transfer a ubuntu installation from one drive to another?
[10:02] <chiefofthejojos> use dd
[10:03] <WS> da0n3 copy files and install grub on other mbr
[10:03] <drumline> fdisk /mbr
[10:03] <Deanodriver> doesn't work on the windows box
[10:03] <Deanodriver> tried it
[10:03] <WS> DaOne, you could also use ghost
[10:03] <drumline> deano: download Ghost 4 Linux  :)
[10:03] <Cityismine> Has anyone tried the gp2x, is it any good?
[10:03] <owner989> if you format a drive it wipes the mbr anyway
[10:04] <saik0> How do I update what ubotu says about something when foo is "already something else"
[10:04] <DaOne> WS, and there would be no problems copying any of the files?  (eg with windoes u cant copy some system-locked files)
[10:04] <Deanodriver> so that'll wipe the drive?
[10:04] <Deanodriver> ok
[10:04] <drumline> Deano: you want to wipe the drive entirely?
[10:04] <Deanodriver> yes
[10:04] <Deanodriver> would qparted do it?
[10:04] <drumline> Deano: download DBAN
[10:04] <DaOne> WS, does ubuntu have its own ghost program or would i have to use something else?
[10:04] <Deanodriver> apt-get it?
[10:04] <WS> drumline mentioned ghost 4 linux, I'm not sure
[10:05] <drumline> Deano: no.  get it on sourceforge, i think.  It's an ISO image.
[10:05] <Deanodriver> ok
[10:05] <Deanodriver> so what will that do?
[10:05] <Hobbsee> saik0: see your pm
[10:05] <drumline> ghost 4 linux is a dd-based disk copy that will work over the network
[10:05] <drumline> and locally...
[10:05] <DaOne> WS, if i was to simply copy the files, would that cause any problems?
[10:05] <drumline> it has a ncurses interface...
[10:06] <Fujitsu> drumline, although it also needs an FTP server.
[10:06] <drumline> DaOne: yes.   Check out Ghost 4 Linux
[10:06] <drumline> Fujitsu: for network use, of course.
[10:06] <rob_p> DaOne:  If you want an exact copy of the drive, boot up with a live disk, mount the drive to be copied read only, mount the new one read/write and use dd.
[10:06] <Deanodriver> will gparted do it?
[10:07] <_null> rob_p, I think dd doesn't need any mounted partitions...
[10:07] <Fujitsu> Somebody should write a proper open source Ghost, as the dd-based copy uses insane amounts of space.
[10:07] <drumline> Deano: if you want a really nice GUI program, you can get Acronis Disk Director.  I'm very happy with it.
[10:07] <DaOne> rob_p, so dd is some kind of ghosting program or similar?
[10:07] <Fujitsu> *reads up on ext2, ext3, reiserfs, fat32, etc*
[10:07] <drumline> Deano: disk director is 40 or 50 bucks
[10:07] <Deanodriver> cool, thanks
[10:07] <Fujitsu> dd copies the disk bit by bit.
[10:07] <rob_p> DaOne:  dd == disk dump
[10:08] <rob_p> DaOne:  It's an old Unix utility for dumping the contents of block devices.
[10:08] <drumline> fujitsu: There's a simple fix for that.  Just fill up the remainder of your drive's space with 0's before taking the image.
[10:08] <Fujitsu> drumline, yes, but it also takes an age.
[10:08] <owner989> what are your guys favorite games under ubuntu
[10:09] <Deanodriver> ok
[10:09] <drumline> owner: robots  :)   dopewars
[10:09] <rob_p> _null:  ...can't remember... you might be right.  It's been a couple of years since I used dd to clone a drive.
[10:09] <Deanodriver> re-sized the partition with gparted
[10:09] <Deanodriver> will that be able to remove the MBR?
[10:09] <DaOne> rob_p, ok.  so if i was transferring ubuntu from a 4Gb HDD to an 8Gb HDD would that mean that i have a 4Gb partition and 4Gb unallocated?
[10:09] <owner989> dopewars lol
[10:09] <owner989> i remember that game
[10:09] <drumline> deano: use dd and copy one block sized 512 to the drive.
[10:09] <Fujitsu> Deanodriver: Can you just erase the entire disk (ie is there any data?)
[10:09] <Hobbsee> Deanodriver: there's a command that will remove grub from the MBR
[10:09] <drumline> deano: from /dev/zero
[10:10] <Deanodriver> i've erased the drive
[10:10] <Fujitsu> drumline: Exactly what I was going to say if he said there was no data...
[10:10] <rob_p> DaOne:  Probably, yes.
[10:10] <Deanodriver> i've put a fat32 partition on it, and now i've resized it to fill the drive
[10:10] <Fujitsu> Deano: What drumline said will erase the MBR.
[10:10] <Fujitsu> And destroy the partition table.
[10:10] <Deanodriver> how do i do it?
[10:10] <Deanodriver> never used dd before
[10:10] <drumline> man page should explain it.  :)
[10:10] <owner989> why do you want to remove grub?
[10:10] <rob_p> DaOne:  However, you could probably use a tool to reclaim the un allocated space (fdisk possibly).
[10:10] <Deanodriver> ok
[10:11] <Deanodriver> because i'm using it as a files-only drive
[10:11] <DaOne> rob_p, and would there be any way to fix that?  what im really trying to do is get my current ubuntu installation from a 4Gb disk onto an 8Gb disk so that i have more free space
[10:11] <drumline> ehh...  I've seen better 'dd' man pages, but it should give you what you need.
[10:11] <owner989> you can toggle the bootable flag in cfdisk
[10:11] <Deanodriver> oh, so it would have removed it when i selected not bootable?
[10:12] <owner989> it wont boot from that partition
[10:12] <owner989> i believe
[10:12] <DaOne> rob_p: would that be a windows-type fdisk or a linux-type fdisk?
[10:12] <owner989> but deano didnt you just format that drive
[10:12] <Deanodriver> yeah
[10:12] <owner989> then it wont have grub will it
[10:12] <jsteidl> DaOne: command cfdisk
[10:12] <rob_p> DaOne:  Linux, of course :-)
[10:13] <Deanodriver> so i put in dd if=/dev/zero of=dev/sdb1
[10:13] <tonyyarusso> Does anyone know how to set up an ad-hoc wireless network?
[10:13] <Deanodriver> ?
[10:13] <drumline> formatting doesn't touch the MBR
[10:13] <owner989> grub must be installed on one of your other partitions
[10:13] <rob_p> yeah cfdisk :-)
[10:13] <Deanodriver> it is installed on my sata drive
[10:13] <drumline> MBR has the partition table...  formatting is one step above the MBR
[10:13] <kestas> drumline, depends what type of format
[10:13] <DaOne> rob_p, jsteidl: thanks for all your help guys.  :D
[10:14] <drumline> kestas: of course...   But "low level format" is more of a "wipe"
[10:14] <Deanodriver> so i put in dd if=/dev/zero of=dev/sdb1 ?
[10:14] <HappyFool> if the partition table is in the first 512 bytes, i would think twice about writing zeros all over it
[10:14] <jsteidl> DaOne: your welcome ;P
[10:14] <drumline> deano: be sure to specify a block count of 1
[10:14] <drumline> :)
[10:14] <drumline> deano: you'll need to repartition your drive after this.
[10:14] <Deanodriver> so and count=1 after that?
[10:14] <drumline> yep
[10:15] <Deanodriver> so i put in dd if=/dev/zero of=dev/sdb1 count=1 ?
[10:15] <theD3viL> I wanna run gparted but its give me Segmentation fault !
[10:15] <drumline> yep...
[10:15] <kestas> Deanodriver, if youre trying to wipe your mbr without wiping the rest you need to also specify a block size of 512kb
[10:15] <Deanodriver> cool, thanks
[10:15] <drumline> default block size is 512
[10:15] <owner989> if you wipe your mbr how are you going to boot the computer?
[10:15] <HappyFool> and of=/dev/sdb1
[10:15] <HappyFool> err
[10:15] <Deanodriver> sdb1 or sdb?
[10:15] <HappyFool> of=/dev/sdb
[10:15] <kestas> owner989, reinstall grub I presume
[10:15] <Deanodriver> 989
[10:15] <drumline> owner: not a boot drive
[10:16] <Deanodriver> i have grub on another drive
[10:16] <owner989> ok
[10:16] <Deanodriver> this used to be my OS drive, but i replaced it with another
[10:16] <drumline> deano: sdb, i think.
[10:16] <Deanodriver> and i'm wiping this drive to put it into an external case
[10:16] <owner989> im pretty sure formatting removed grub
[10:16] <drumline> deano: download DBAN
[10:16] <owner989> assuming you formatted the whole drive
[10:16] <Deanodriver> ok
[10:16] <jsteidl> you can specifiy partitions with dban too
[10:16] <Deanodriver> done the dd thing
[10:16] <drumline> owner: depends on where grub is installed...  if it's in the partition, yes, it'll get blown away
[10:17] <drumline> jsteidl: newer version?
[10:17] <jsteidl> mh, i dont know... the recent one drumline.. once you dont use the autonuke-feature.. that is mostly for "emergencys" :D
[10:17] <Deanodriver> done, now repartitioning
[10:17] <Deanodriver> thanks a lot :)
[10:18] <drumline> emergencys?
[10:18] <Deanodriver> now to remount it
[10:18] <jsteidl> drumline: :-X
[10:18] <Deanodriver> awesome, thanks a heap for that :)
[10:18] <drumline> jsteidl: what you talkin bout willis!?
[10:18] <Deanodriver> all part of the learning process
[10:19] <drumline> Deano: Aussie!  :)   G'day mate!
[10:19] <drumline> heh
[10:19] <Deanodriver> i've only been using full time ubuntu for 5 months
[10:19] <Deanodriver> hey :)
[10:19] <Deanodriver> where are you from?
[10:19] <jsteidl> drumline: dban is for _secure_ deletion of files... if i want to delete something for real it must highly sensitive data .. or illegal.
[10:19] <drumline> Deano: USA, California...  :)   I know a few Aussies; they are a crack-up
[10:19] <Deanodriver> cool
[10:19] <drumline> I know a banana bender
[10:19] <drumline> heh
[10:20] <Deanodriver> cool
[10:20] <Deanodriver> i'm from Victoria
[10:20] <drumline> ahh cool...  you like it?
[10:20] <Deanodriver> don't mind it
[10:20] <theD3viL> I tried to run gparted but there was segmation error!
[10:20] <theD3viL> what to do?
[10:20] <Deanodriver> near the beach, and only a couple of hours from Melbourne, so i'm happy enough
[10:20] <Hobbsee> yes, we aussies are clearly very scary
[10:21] <Deanodriver> lol
[10:21] <owner989> i like ubuntu more than mandrake linux
[10:21] <owner989> i tried that a few years ago
[10:21] <drumline> jsteidl: it's the illegal part that I'm always careful to warn people about.  Courts have lately been sentencing people even when there was no incriminating data, but instead a trace of a wiping program.
[10:21] <Deanodriver> i used mandrake on and off for a fair while
[10:21] <theD3viL> owner989, why ?
[10:21] <Deanodriver> tried ubuntu, and was hooked
[10:21] <owner989> thed3vil probably just because linux has better hardware support now
[10:22] <Deanodriver> and promptly removed my windows partition
[10:22] <sven> good day everyone
[10:22] <drumline> deano: it's just like crack cocaine...
[10:22] <Deanodriver> first distro i felt properly 'at home' using
[10:22] <Deanodriver> yeah
[10:22] <drumline> heh
[10:22] <jsteidl> drumline: so you get sued for having the tools for might doing something illegal... crazy world..
[10:22] <Deanodriver> and first time i'd tried in gnome for a while
[10:22] <theD3viL> Im just scared that ubuntu will be slower than now .. in next relases :(
[10:22] <Deanodriver> *tried gnome
[10:22] <sven> can someone help me with a crash that I have at a cold boot?
[10:22] <owner989> i like gnome
[10:23] <Deanodriver> i'd last tried it with redhat 7.1, i think
[10:23] <Deanodriver> or 7.2
[10:23] <Deanodriver> preferred kde then
[10:23] <drumline> jsteidl: that's with other evidence against the people too, though.  It's not strictly for wiping the computer.  Those people who were sentenced, were sentenced for good reason.   But, of course, there are exceptions.
[10:23] <sven> can someone help me with a crash that I have at a cold boot?
[10:23] <_JensBru> Hi, I have on laptop winxp installed .. one partition of 40Gb (only 1 hdd of 40gb that is). I want to install Ubuntu alsoo, so i get dual-boot.  Any tricks in doing this?
[10:23] <drumline> much of the time, the court is pissed off that evidence was destroyed.
[10:24] <Hobbsee> _JensBru: should be fine, just make sure you dont remove windows when you partition - resize it, then use the free space
[10:24] <jsteidl> drumline: i can understand that.. imagine a large scene-bust and a wiped hdd :PP i would be pissed too
[10:24] <owner989> i  would do a 20/20 partition jens
[10:25] <_JensBru> ok, making those partitions can be done in Ubuntu installation i suppose
[10:25] <drumline> 20/20?
[10:25] <Hobbsee> _JensBru: yes, i do mine in ubuntu installation
[10:25] <sven> nobody can help?
[10:25] <Hobbsee> drumline: 20 gb windows, 20 gb ubuntu
[10:26] <HappyFool> sven: give us a little more detail on what happens when you boot
[10:26] <drumline> Hobbsee: which will you use more?
[10:26] <Hobbsee> drumline: me personally?  i didnt partition that way, but kubuntu, definetly
[10:26] <drumline> Hobbsee: which OS will you use more?
[10:27] <sven> HappyFool, Ubuntu just hangs during boot and it gives this error: Kernel Panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt......
[10:27] <Hobbsee> drumline: my 40 gig hd is split 18gb XP, 7 gig / kubuntu breezy, 7 gig /home (breezy), 7 gig / (dapper), 1gb swap
[10:27] <Hobbsee> drumline: kubuntu breezy
[10:27] <HappyFool> sven: is ubuntu installed? or is this booting from a CD ?
[10:28] <ThePianoGuy> hi
[10:28] <sven> Happyfool: it is installed, and I reinstalled it a couple of times
[10:28] <drumline> Hobbsee: nothing wrong with that.  :)
[10:28] <HappyFool> sven: so installation goes without a hitch ?
[10:28] <drumline> Hobbsee: just like Cornbread
[10:28] <Hobbsee> drumline: definetly not
[10:28] <jsteidl> sven: does the livecd work?
[10:28] <sven> Happyfool: yep, and when I press reset it boots fine, so it's only at a cold boot
[10:29] <jsteidl> hmmm
[10:29] <sven> jsteidl: what do you mean with livecd?
[10:29] <drumline> what's that program to resize partitions?   gpart or something?
[10:29] <jsteidl> drumline: gparted
[10:29] <jsteidl> sven: the Live-Disc
[10:29] <drumline> TY
[10:29] <sven> jsteidl: I know what you're saying but I don't know what it is
[10:29] <drumline> I need to destroy SUSE from my laptop and instal Ubuntu
[10:29] <HappyFool> sven: what kind of computer do you have?
[10:29] <ThePianoGuy> 1 question: Does KStart->System settings->Network settings add gateway settings to /etc/network/interfaces for you guys?
[10:30] <ThePianoGuy> network adapters are configured properly, but the line gateway x.x.x.x isn't added to the file
[10:30] <Hobbsee> drumline: use ubuntu installer then?
[10:30] <ThePianoGuy> although I set it up correctly in Routers tab->Gateway
[10:30] <sven> HappyFool: Pentium IV 2,6 with 1024mb of ram, Intel 875 chipset, 2x 300gb Maxtor, ATi Radeon 9800Pro
[10:30] <jsteidl> sven: i noticed that is probably not important since you are able to install and reboot... was wondering if it might be a general kernel-problem
[10:31] <drumline> Hobbsee: I dunno... I was thinking of doing some resizing and stuff... I'll probably blow away the partition when I do the resizing.
[10:31] <sven> jsteidl: I also upgraded to the newer kernel but that doesn't solve it, I think that the issue is that the kernel with the installation is the first kernel that supports my chipset
[10:31] <Hobbsee> drumline: you can resize and all that with the installer, too
[10:31] <HappyFool> sven: i'm not an expert by any means, but I'd suggest trying to boot with options like 'noacpi' and 'nolapic' (i'm not sure I have those options quite correct)
[10:31] <sven> HappyFool: do you know where I can see the interrupts that devices are usring?
[10:32] <dash> What's the best way for me to capture and report a kernel crash?
[10:32] <tonyyarusso> What should I run to switch the network card to ad-hoc mode and configure that?
[10:32] <dash> (in this case, on ACPI hibernate)
[10:32] <jsteidl> sven: <sarcastic>get gentoo</sarcastic> ;)
[10:32] <jsteidl> dash: syslogger?
[10:32] <sven> jsteidl: I know :) working on that but it takes time
[10:32] <drumline> Hobbsee: it actually works?   I dunno...  I don't feel like re-imaging my windows box if it jacks it up
[10:32] <dash> jsteidl: hmm?
[10:32] <Hobbsee> drumline: has worked every single time for me...
[10:32] <sven> HappyFool: I installed ubuntu with those options :(
[10:33] <jsteidl> dash: the best way to keep track of the events is to log all events... syslogging is a good way to start.
[10:33] <dash> jsteidl: don't see anything by that name
[10:33] <dash> oh, syslog?
[10:33] <dash> dude
[10:33] <dash> by the time a kernel panic rolls around, syslog is long gone :)
[10:34] <HappyFool> sven: i'm not sure; try 'sudo lshw'
[10:34] <jsteidl> dash: hm, for real? i thought different :-/
[10:34] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, iwconfig, or methinks the networking under System > Administration > Networking
[10:34] <HappyFool> sven: so you needed noacpi etc. for install?
[10:34] <dash> jsteidl: there may be some nonfatal kernel errors that can get logged, but in this case i am pretty sure it is after stopping all processes
[10:34] <sven> HappyFool: that's what I tried to solve the problem, but it didn't work
[10:35] <jsteidl> dash: okay :)
[10:35] <HappyFool> sven: so you've tried to boot your installed ubuntu using those options?
[10:35] <jsteidl> off to colone, cu all sunday
[10:35] <drumline> alright...  niter folks
[10:35] <sven> HappyFool, not yet, but I installed it with those options so I assume that it uses the option at boot...
[10:36] <HappyFool> sven: i'm not sure about that. in /boot/grub/menu.lst, look for the 'kopt=' line
[10:36] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: System > Administration > Networking allows me to configure how it connects to a wireless network, but doesn't seem to let me set up one that the computer would be hosting.
[10:37] <tonyyarusso> cduby: On the other hand, iwconfig looks promising, if I can figure out how to use it.
[10:37] <sven> HappyFool: # kopt=root=/dev/sda1 ro noapic nolapic
[10:38] <HappyFool> sven: hrm
[10:38] <derek[] > dd if=/dev/hda2 of=/mnt/osshare/ubuntu.bin bs=512 count=1
[10:38] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, yeah, i thought iwconfig was it....but hadn't looked in awhile because I don't mess with ad-hoc ;)
[10:38] <derek[] > Where /dev/hda2 is the device for your Linux partition
[10:38] <derek[] > Linux partition??
[10:38] <ehaase> would it be safe to say that ubuntu is just debian updated more frequently?
[10:38] <derek[] > LInux is installed on more than one partition
[10:38] <ColonelKernel> ehaase, no.
[10:39] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: So I don't suppose you could give me any pointers about using it then, could you?
[10:39] <HappyFool> sven: i'm out of ideas, sorry
[10:39] <ehaase> ColonelKernel: what are the *major* differences between ubuntu and debian?
[10:39] <sven> HappyFool: no problem, I knew it was a tough one, thanks!
[10:39] <derek[] > Anybody?
[10:39] <HappyFool> derek[] : what are you trying to do?
[10:40] <derek[] > http://www.crhc.uiuc.edu/~mjmille2/howtos/dual-boot-linux-and-windows/
[10:40] <derek[] > The 8th point there.
[10:40] <derek[] > Happuf,
[10:40] <derek[] > HappyFool
[10:40] <ColonelKernel> ehaase, ubuntu is ubuntu, debian is debian. Ubuntu is debian based, but it is not debian. the major differences are the packages used.
[10:41] <derek[] > Hallo grimse
[10:42] <GreenFireD> hello
[10:42] <HappyFool> derek[] : i would guess your root partition
[10:42] <cyphase> In case you haven't heard about it... http://www.rocketboom.com/vlog/archives/2005/12/rb_05_dec_02.html
[10:43] <derek[] > HappyFool, yeah
[10:43] <HappyFool> derek[] : i would also suggest that letting grub be your boot manager is much easier
[10:43] <derek[] > HappyFool,
[10:43] <HappyFool> derek[] : i installed ubuntu and it Just Worked. grub made a boot entry to windows for me
[10:43] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, hang on....
[10:43] <derek[] > it didn't for me
[10:43] <derek[] > something went wrong and the installation didn't complete
[10:44] <derek[] > so I clean installed Ubuntu
[10:44] <derek[] > with a partition vfat left for windows
[10:44] <derek[] > its the first partition
[10:44] <derek[] > but now I'm not sure if GRUB is in /dev/hda2 or the first block of /dev/hda
[10:45] <HrdwrBoB> it's in /dev/hda
[10:45] <HrdwrBoB> well, the bootstrap section is
[10:45] <HrdwrBoB> it then loads files from /dev/hda2
[10:45] <derek[] > ok
[10:45] <derek[] > so what do I wanna copy?
[10:45] <ehaase> ColonelKernel: ok, thanks
[10:45] <derek[] > so I can boot linux later
[10:46] <HappyFool> unless derek[]  has installed windows (which i suspect he has) which has put it's own MBR in /dev/hda
[10:46] <hydroksyde> hello
[10:46] <derek[] > i haven't installed win yet
[10:46] <jsteidl> derek[] : do that first, then install ubuntu, but keep some free space.
[10:46] <derek[] > HrdwrBoB, which files does it then load from /dev/hda2?
[10:47] <derek[] > jsteidl, tried.. unsuccessfully.. this was the only way that worked
[10:47] <derek[] > anyway
[10:47] <derek[] > i just need to secure the part that boots linux
[10:47] <Cityismine> Does bittorent use the tcp portocol or udp?
[10:47] <HrdwrBoB> derek[] : stuff from /boot
[10:47] <jsteidl> derek[] : okay, i wasnt reading the whole thing.. gonna be silent from now on ;)
[10:47] <HrdwrBoB> Cityismine: TCP
[10:47] <derek[] > HrdwrBoB, ok
[10:47] <nelposto> hey people
[10:48] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, check this....   iwconfig wlan0 mode Master ....... except you'll have to change the wlan0 to whatever your wireless is and the mode from Master to Ad-hoc....
[10:48] <derek[] > jsteidl, np ;)
[10:48] <nelposto> finally set my harddisks up properly today, ready to install ubuntu but I've had some problems with it
[10:48] <hydroksyde> How do I make synaptic choose a different server for downloading packages? the one I'm using isn't working
[10:49] <nelposto> for one, the installer wasn't able to install all the 'extra' packages - it failed on one, so I thought I would try and continue the installation.. is it possible to regain those packages?
[10:49] <n0dl> what plays.ogms?
[10:49] <Madpilot> !archive
[10:49] <ubotu> Madpilot: I don't know, could you explain it?
[10:50] <Madpilot> !archives
[10:50] <ubotu> Madpilot: Are you on ritalin?
[10:50] <bimberi> hydroksyde: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change nz. (guessing :) ) to au. (if you can bear to :P )
[10:50] <Madpilot> meh...
[10:50] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: That didn't give any errors or anything, so presumably something worked.  Now what?
[10:50] <Hobbsee> !mirrors
[10:50] <ubotu> I heard mirrors is repository mirrors can be found through http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[10:50] <bimberi> hydroksyde: or just remove the country prefix altogether and leave them as archive.ubuntu.com
[10:51] <hydroksyde> I see
[10:51] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, try iwconfig and see what the output is
[10:51] <hydroksyde> thanks
[10:51] <Madpilot> Hobbsee: *thats* the one I was looking for!
[10:51] <Hobbsee> :)
[10:52] <Hobbsee> thought you might have been
[10:52] <GreenFireD> how can install the new firefox?
[10:52] <GreenFireD> i tryed to install via KLIK but it doesn't works
[10:53] <bimberi> ubotu tell GreenFireD about firefox1.5
[10:53] <davix> tell me too
[10:53] <davix> :)
[10:54] <hydroksyde> Is it easy to upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10, given a 5.10 CD?
[10:54] <Hobbsee> !tell davix about firefox1.5
[10:54] <GreenFireD> thanks ubotu :)
[10:54] <davix> :)
[10:54] <bimberi> ubotu tell davix about firefox1.5
[10:54] <bimberi> too quick Hobbsee :)
[10:54] <Hobbsee> :P indeed bimberi
[10:54] <davix> ubotu tell davix about dapper
[10:54] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: Should I put it in #flood?
[10:55] <davix> :)
[10:55] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, pastebin
[10:55] <bimberi> davix: you can "/msg ubotu dapper" (saves channel traffic) :)
[10:55] <davix> yes, I saw, tnx
[10:56] <bimberi> hydroksyde: yes - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[10:56] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: Okay, what's the URL of that again?
[10:56] <hydroksyde> thanks
[10:56] <St^Anger^19m> !vmware
[10:56] <bimberi> davix: ah, does ubotu berate you?
[10:56] <bimberi> hydroksyde: np :)
[10:57] <mike4263> how can i search for packing using the command line
[10:57] <mike4263> *package
[10:57] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:57] <davix> bimberi, yes :)
[10:57] <bimberi> mike4263: apt-cache search something
[10:57] <bimberi> davix: :)
[10:58] <fridge> I recently changed my sources to breezy badger,  apt-get update went fine, but now whenever I try and install new packages it tries to uninstall mythtv
[10:58] <derek[] > Does anyone has a good knowledge about GRUB?
[10:58] <derek[] > I really need some serious help
[10:58] <WS> only knowledge I have about grub it sounds pretty good about now
[10:59] <hydroksyde> Grub is nasty... but then I could be considered a Lilo evangilist
[10:59] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: Done.
[10:59] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, got a link
[11:00] <cdubya> got it
[11:00] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: Okay, good.
[11:00] <bimberi> derek[] : describe the problem and is someone knows they'll try to help :)
[11:01] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, eth1 is your wireless?
[11:01] <bimberi> *if
[11:01] <derek[] > During the installation of linux, at the partitioning stage, I created /dev/hda1 as FAT32, and installed linux on /dev/hda2. It didn't ask me where to install GRUB. It just did. And now I'm in linux. Now I want to install winxp in /dev/hda1. But it will wash the MBR and install its bootloader. So I want to know what I need to secure so I can set up the booting of linux later.
[11:02] <surfer> hi there, i hava a problem with sudo. when i type in "sudo <some command>" i get no response
[11:03] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: Correct.
[11:03] <bimberi> derek[] : I don't know a way to "secure" it, but there is this - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:03] <HappyFool> surfer: what command are you using to test?
[11:03] <cdubya> k
[11:03] <hydroksyde> surfer: what do you mean no response? does it go straight back to shell?
[11:03] <derek[] > bimberi, ok thanks, I'll take a look at it
[11:03] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, so what other machines are you looking to join together with?
[11:03] <bimberi> derek[] : np :)
[11:04] <tonyyarusso> My roommate's, an HP laptop running Windows XP.
[11:04] <surfer> HappyFool, hydroksyde: any command, ex "sudo passwd root" yes, it doesn't freeze, i come straight back to the shell
[11:04] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, is it running in ad-hoc mode?
[11:05] <rabeldable> surfer: can you do: sudo ls -l
[11:05] <cdubya> anyone mess much at all with wifi-radar?
[11:06] <hydroksyde> surfer: I would ask you to "sudo cat /etc/sudoers" and stick the output on pastebin.com right now, but that wont work, obviously
[11:06] <surfer> rabeldable: no, it does nothing
[11:06] <surfer> hydroksyde: right, no response
[11:06] <HappyFool> surfer: any error messages in /var/log/auth.log ?
[11:06] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: Not yet, but I found some web sites about switching in Windows, so I think I get that part.
[11:06] <rabeldable> surfer: do you happen to know the root password?
[11:07] <surfer> HappyFool: i have no right to read that file
[11:07] <GreenFireD> someone know how to use KLIK?
[11:07] <HappyFool> surfer: your user isn't in the 'adm' group?
[11:07] <surfer> rabeldable: there is no root password (is there - i cant remember)
[11:07] <GreenFireD> http://klik.atekon.de/
[11:07] <HappyFool> surfer: what does 'ls -l /var/log/auth.log' say, and 'getent group adm' ?
[11:08] <rabeldable> surfer: that depends if you changed it
[11:08] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, I'm honestly not sure beyond that point....my understanding is that is ad-hoc mode, you're essentially running peer-to-peer, but wireless.....so once you get that XP box in ad-hoc mode, and you run samba on your ubuntu box, then you should be able to talk....it'll take a little bit, but you should be able to....
[11:08] <rabeldable> surfer: if you have a default ubuntu install then root password is unknown and you will need to change it to access it.. (not recommended)
[11:09] <rabeldable> surfer: what version of ubuntu do you have?
[11:10] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: Quick backup, what's samba?
[11:10] <itom> ot: I've two drives Sata in a server HP ML110, and before installing I want to configure a Raid 1:  the step are a) create array with two discs  2) add hotspare(the 2nd disk  3) reboot and install in sda?
[11:10] <surfer> HappyFool, rabeldable i just found out  that i am not in the sudoers :( - thx - you helped me a lot
[11:11] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: Plus, once I can get them to do things like respond to a command line ping or something, how do I get from that to actually transferring a file?
[11:11] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, small steps...heh
[11:12] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, samba is a server that would run on your ubuntu box that would allow the XP box to see it as if it were another Windows box.
[11:12] <GreenFireD> I want to install skype but it writes "  Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed.". What should i install(btw skype works)
[11:13] <jojux> hi
[11:13] <GreenFireD> hi hi
[11:13] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, so once you get the WORKGROUP = var set in the smb.conf and restart smbd after getting it installed if it's not already.....then you should be able to from the XP box at least try to see if you can see the ubuntu box from the network places...
[11:13] <DRAGON_Ultra> morning
[11:14] <bimberi> GreenFireD: Seveas has repackaged Skype to correct that issue - http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl (breezy-extras)
[11:14] <jojux> i have some trouble with bluetooth
[11:14] <GreenFireD> bimberi, what should i do? download the package?
[11:15] <tonyyarusso> dubya: I see.  Theoretically, that sounds pretty slick.  Let's see if I can make it happen!  (Sorry to start from such basics; I just migrated from Windows myself this fall.)
[11:15] <bimberi> GreenFireD: yes, i guess uninstall the skype one and install Seveas'
[11:15] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, np
[11:16] <adriann> hi people
[11:16] <GreenFireD> ok i am trying
[11:16] <kenichi> hi there
[11:16] <mcp_dk> goodmorning everyvody
[11:17] <adriann> it's my second time being here
[11:17] <kenichi> mine too ;)
[11:17] <adriann> just missed being here
[11:17] <adriann> ha ha a
[11:17] <adriann> cool
[11:17] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, sudo apt-get install samba to make sure it's there....
[11:17] <adriann> i am already getting used to this ubuntu thing...
[11:17] <adriann> it's been great
[11:17] <kenichi> im just wonderung why here are so many people...
[11:17] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, what version of ubuntu are you running, by the way?
[11:17] <kenichi> where are you from?
[11:17] <mcp_dk> does anyone know it its possible to have two user logged in to Ubuntu and swith between them without having to log out and then log in
[11:18] <adriann> who's u asking?
[11:18] <adriann> i just wanna ask...
[11:18] <mcp_dk> i used to be able to do it wioth Kubuntu 5.04 but now i run ubuntu 5.10
[11:18] <adriann> coz my laptop has this infrared port and mms card reader....
[11:18] <adriann> it's not working
[11:18] <adriann> in linux'
[11:18] <adriann> what's the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu? which is better?
[11:19] <KDC1956> mcp_dk try it and find out
[11:19] <kenichi> kubuntu uses kde desktop
[11:19] <kenichi> ubuntu the gnome desktop
[11:19] <mcp_dk> Ubuntu is Gnome Desktop and Kubuntu is KDE
[11:19] <bimberi> mcp_dk: sure - Applications -> System Tools -> New Login,  then use CTRL-ALT-F8 and C-A-F7 to switch between them
[11:19] <KDC1956> kubuntu is not as good as ubuntu to me
[11:19] <mcp_dk> excellent.. thanks Bimberi
[11:20] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: I just installed it from the CD, and it's 5.10 Breezy.
[11:20] <KDC1956> I like gnome better than kde
[11:20] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, k. so do you have samba installed?
[11:20] <mcp_dk> yeah it works like a charm :D
[11:20] <GreenFireD> bimberi, thanks! it works
[11:20] <adriann> cool...u guys are very friendly
[11:20] <kenichi> cool
[11:21] <kenichi> that really works fine
[11:21] <adriann> how can i work out my infra red port and mmc card reader?
[11:21] <adriann> any help?
[11:21] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: Now I do, yes.
[11:21] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, k. you ready?
[11:21] <cdubya> heh
[11:21] <ubmot> !repos
[11:21] <ubotu> rumour has it, repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[11:22] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, you know the workgroup name that the XP box is setup with by chance?
[11:22] <mcp_dk> adriann. What version do you use ?? my MMC card reader works out of the box in Ubuntu 5.10
[11:23] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, if not, not a huge deal, unless your roomie is fanatical about workgroup naming and not changing.....
[11:23] <adriann> i don't know the version...
[11:23] <adriann> can anyone suggest the best MPEG player in linux...coz totem is not really doing good when playing avi and windows medias
[11:23] <mcp_dk> adriann. do you use KDE or Gnome desktop ?
[11:23] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: I don't know, but let me see if I can find out...
[11:24] <robotgeek> adriann: sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[11:24] <adriann> gnome
[11:24] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, no worries, let's go ahead and get samba worked out....
[11:24] <adriann> ok...is totem-xine better?
[11:25] <robotgeek> adriann: yes, for now
[11:25] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: Yes, let's.  (He seems to still have it at the default "MSHOME", so we can do whatever.)
[11:25] <adriann> is that the best>
[11:25] <GreenFireD> there is Skype 2.0 beta version to linux?
[11:25] <adriann> again..i have something to ask...i want to download xxx movies...is there a place u can suggest...
[11:25] <mcp_dk> adriann.. not sure but when i used 5.04 my MMC did not work untill i updated. In 5.10 it works great. Maybe you need to do a apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:25] <adriann> he he he
[11:25] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, that works fine.... sudo /etc/samba/smb.conf
[11:26] <adriann> ok i'll try
[11:26] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, oops.... sudo pico /etc/samba/smb.conf
[11:26] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: Got that.
[11:26] <robotgeek> is there anyway i can have two interfaces online at a time? like both wireless and ethernet?
[11:27] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, what kinda permission do you want to have on the dirs and which dirs do you want available?
[11:27] <Fujitsu> robotgeek: Yes.
[11:27] <Fujitsu> robotgeek: What is stopping you?
[11:27] <robotgeek> Fujitsu: i'll explain my scenario better
[11:27] <peter__> hi
[11:27] <peter__> i have a problem
[11:27] <Fujitsu> Hi peter__
[11:28] <Fujitsu> What is the issue?
[11:28] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, been awhile since I've been in samba config...so bear with me here....
[11:28] <bogyit> hell-o
[11:28] <adriann> hey how can i access my mmc card?
[11:28] <robotgeek> Fujitsu: i have two laptops sitting next to each other, and i want connect the laptops thru the ethernet's and they are both online using wireless (separately)
[11:28] <peter__> know anyone how to add "folders" to the gnome registry editor(sory if this is not his name, i have a polish ubuntu)
[11:28] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: I would be fine with just creating a directory for everything that was going to be transferred, and have full permissions for anyone within that one, or we could create a new group of just him and me that would, whichever's easier.
[11:28] <peter__> cuz i can  add only keys
[11:28] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: Sure thing.
[11:28] <Fujitsu> peter__, the menu?
[11:28] <peter__> no, not the menu
[11:29] <adriann> how can i post message in red?
[11:29] <peter__> gconf editor
[11:29] <derek[] > What's the difference between "/sbin/grub-install /dev/hda" and "/sbin/grub-install /dev/hda1" ?
[11:29] <melonipoika> hi, after some time using ubuntu, i have deleted my windows partition :) now i would like to change the size of the ext3 partition to include all the new free space, but i cannot do it with gparted, any help?
[11:29] <robotgeek> adriann: here, no..all that is disabled
[11:29] <Fujitsu> derek[] , hda installs to the MBR, hda1 to the partition.
[11:29] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, so you just want an empty kind of "drop box"....no files in it until you copy some to it?
[11:29] <derek[] > Fujitsu, ok
[11:30] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: Pretty much.  I figured it could be something along the lines of /home/anthony/wirelessshare.
[11:30] <adriann> anyone here where can i download xxx dvds?
[11:30] <derek[] > Fujitsu, if I install to hda1, how will it boot?
[11:30] <peter__> i wan't to add peercast support(link support in the whole system), so i have to add a new "folder" to the gconf editor
[11:30] <peter__> but i just don't know how
[11:30] <adriann> why is it that my mozilla closes automatically>
[11:30] <Fujitsu> derek[] , it won't unless you have a bootloader on the MBR to boot the partition.
[11:30] <cbear> hey yall, i'm having a login problem
[11:30] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, k
[11:31] <Fujitsu> cbear, what is the issue?
[11:31] <cbear> i logged out one day and when i went to log back in, after the startup it gave me a mesaage
[11:31] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, sudo mkdir /home/anthony/whatever_you_want_to_call_it.....then let me know what the whatever_you_want_to_call_it is....;)
[11:31] <cbear> "you logged in for less than 10 min
[11:31] <derek[] > Fujitsu, ok
[11:32] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: Let's use what I said before for now then.
[11:32] <Fujitsu> cbear, does it cause any problems?
[11:32] <cdubya> k
[11:32] <cbear> something might be wrong with the system, you may be out of diskspace"
[11:32] <cbear> well now i can't get into that users desktop
[11:32] <ColonelKernel> how do I put my laptop into standby mode
[11:32] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, sudo mkdir /home/anthony/wirelessshare
[11:32] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: Done.
[11:32] <cbear> kind of frustrating since i had the soundcard setup just right with that user
[11:32] <linukso> Hi! Does anyone here know if a backport of firefox 1.5 for breezy is planed?
[11:32] <Fujitsu> cbear, what happens when you dismiss the message?
[11:32] <Fujitsu> linukso, yes.
[11:33] <linukso> Fujitsu: great!
[11:33] <cbear> i get kicked back out to the login screen
[11:33] <linukso> thanks
[11:33] <Fujitsu> cbear, do you have any other users?
[11:33] <cbear> yea
[11:33] <Madpilot> cbear: boot to recovery mode and rm .ICEauthority - then you should be OK
[11:33] <adriann> what's the best browser?
[11:33] <j-linux> I'm using Ubuntu 5.04 with XFCE -- I also have KDE installed.  I am going to reinstall with 5.10 but don't know which to download, Kubuntu or Ubuntu?  I am going to use XFCE and have both GNOME and KDE applications running.  Is there any difference if I download Kubuntu or Ubuntu if I am going to use XFCE?
[11:33] <Fujitsu> adriann: Very subjective, but I like Firefox.
[11:33] <derek[] > Fujitsu, do I need to set the partition to be active?
[11:33] <cbear> i used a terminal failsafe to add another user
[11:33] <DRAGON_Ultra> ubuntu is better
[11:34] <peter__> oh, no problem anymore, i think i am somethimes dump :] 
[11:34] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: Is it going to be a problem that since it was created through sudo the owner is root, or do we want that?
[11:34] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, sudo cp /etc/samba/smb.conf /etc/samba/smb.conf.old
[11:34] <Fujitsu> derek[] , you should.
[11:34] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, it's all good....
[11:34] <j-linux> DRAGON_Ultra: why is it better?  (any specific reasons?)
[11:34] <cbear> well removing iceauthority have other effects on my system?
[11:34] <peter__> i had just to add a key to the "folder" i want, and a new was created
[11:34] <DRAGON_Ultra> for me yes
[11:34] <DRAGON_Ultra> I like gnome better than kde
[11:34] <Madpilot> cbear: it shouldn't - I understand it's a temp file that'll be re-created
[11:34] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: All right, so now we're ready to edit that conf file, right?
[11:34] <cdubya> yep
[11:34] <peter__> yeah, me to
[11:34] <robotgeek> Fujitsu: any ideas on my issue?
[11:35] <j-linux> DRAGON_Ultra: me too... but I am going to be running XFCE in either case.
[11:35] <cdubya> sudo pico /etc/samba/smb.conf
[11:35] <peter__> kde is somehow messed up in my mind
[11:35] <enkrav_> Are ubuntu servers down, that I cannot access the dictionary and synaptic says no such file or directory to universe & co?
[11:35] <DRAGON_Ultra> ok
[11:35] <Fujitsu> robotgeek, what do you want to actually do with them?
[11:35] <derek[] > k
[11:35] <melonipoika> ok, another question... is it possible to merge 3 partitions?
[11:36] <melonipoika> uy, 2 i mean
[11:36] <j-linux> thanks...
[11:36] <robotgeek> Fujitsu: well, there's this app called synergy (a poor man's kvm switch) , and i want make synergy use the ethernet, while i be online in both of them using the wireless
[11:36] <ubuntu_> Good morning
[11:36] <DRAGON_Ultra> m
[11:36] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, you get it?
[11:36] <_Norris_> wenas
[11:36] <_Norris_> probleams con la tarjeta de sonido
[11:37] <_Norris_> tengo ubuntu 5.10
[11:37] <Fujitsu> The wireless network connects the two machines as well as the wired?
[11:37] <_Norris_> y desde el principio el sonido iva al peo
[11:37] <melonipoika> _Norris_ ests en un forum en ingls
[11:37] <_Norris_> pelo
[11:37] <_Norris_> ok
[11:37] <Madpilot> !es
[11:37] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:37] <ubuntu_> i hvae ubuntu 5.10 installed ,  my question is how i install firefox 1.5 in it  i download the package but i cant get it installed
[11:37] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: I have the directory ready, and the conf file up ready to be modified however we need.
[11:37] <Fujitsu> ubuntu_, what is the problem with it?
[11:38] <dadde> is there a good video editing program for ubuntu?
[11:38] <ubuntu_> i extract the package but i can run  the installer
[11:38] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, go down in the file until you get to the Authentication section
[11:38] <DRAGON_Ultra> ubuntu its a tar.gz?
[11:38] <ubuntu_> yes
[11:38] <DRAGON_Ultra> read the how to it not that hard they say
[11:38] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: I also have my roommate's computer set to ad-hoc mode now, and it's seeing the network name in its list of available ones.
[11:38] <Fujitsu> ubuntu_, there are instructions on the wiki... Under FirefoxNewVersion.
[11:38] <robotgeek> Fujitsu: both laptops have wireless connections (i want them to use their own connections). i take a ethernet cable to connect both laptops to each other, and have to make synergy use that to communicate? doable?
[11:39] <_JensBru> How is ubuntu doing with Oracle?
[11:39] <DRAGON_Ultra> I like RPM better
[11:39] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: I'm there.
[11:39] <robotgeek> DRAGON_Ultra: you are the first person i've heard saying that :)
[11:39] <Fujitsu> DRAGON_Ultra, RPM is terrible!
[11:39] <adriann> how do i install RPM pacakges?
[11:39] <ubuntu_> yes rpm better but i can find  the final version  firefox in rpb
[11:39] <ubuntu_> rpm
[11:39] <Fujitsu> robotgeek, it would require some nasty iptables work.
[11:39] <Fujitsu> ubuntu_, DEB is better than RPM!!!
[11:39] <DRAGON_Ultra> you RPM always let me install easy
[11:39] <Fujitsu> debs are easy to install!
[11:40] <peter__> dep let you install easy, and good
[11:40] <peter__> the thinks you install in .dep are working
[11:40] <peter__> when you use rpm for longer, there will be a mess
[11:40] <robotgeek> Fujitsu: hmm, okay. any good guides lying around?
[11:40] <Madpilot> DRAGON_Ultra: Synaptic isn't easy?
[11:40] <adriann> somebody help...this is my first time using torrents
[11:40] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, find the line with ;      security = user      then delete the ; in front of the line......
[11:40] <DRAGON_Ultra> has always use rpm with suse and it always work great for me
[11:41] <Fujitsu> DRAGON, that is for SuSE!
[11:41] <adriann> i get this message UNREGISTERED BLAH
[11:41] <robotgeek> Fujitsu: or should i just use ipkungfu or whatever?
[11:41] <Fujitsu> What is ipkungfu?
[11:41] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: Done.
[11:41] <dadde> speaking of installing, I still cant find unrar after uncommenting the two universe lines
[11:41] <robotgeek> Fujitsu: some app to manage iptables, i hear of it here quite a lot :)
[11:41] <adriann> hey why is it..unregistered torrent pass
[11:42] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, add the following line just below the line you just modified.....   username map = /etc/samba/smbusers
[11:43] <ubuntu_> fujitsu i need toinstall deb?
[11:43] <Fujitsu> robotgeek, I know nothing about it.
[11:43] <ubuntu_> oh is already installed in ubuntu?
[11:43] <Fujitsu> ubuntu_, there isn't a proper deb for Firefox 1.5 at the moment.
[11:43] <robotgeek> Fujitsu: btw, that app synergy is awesome. http://synergy2.sourceforge.net
[11:43] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, methinks you're going to need to create a unix account for your roommate on your box.
[11:43] <cdubya> if memory serves....
[11:43] <bimberi> ubuntu_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:44] <GreenFireD> hello
[11:44] <Fujitsu> GreenFireD, hi!
[11:44] <GreenFireD> I have Windows in hda1 and hda2, how can i browser in this hds?
[11:44] <robotgeek> Fujitsu: apt-cache show ipkungfu
[11:44] <Seveas> !tell GreenFireD about winfs
[11:44] <cbear> sorry, i have another issue
[11:44] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: All set.
[11:44] <holycow> bimberi, those are the instructions for firefox? thats pretty sad
[11:44] <holycow> :)
[11:44] <Seveas> !tell GreenFireD about ntfs
[11:45] <holycow> lol download, extract to folder, click on binary, done.  create launcher if necessary
[11:45] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, k. now go down to near the bottom of the file under the shares section......
[11:45] <holycow> then wait for the damned package :)
[11:45] <robotgeek> Seveas: hi :)
[11:46] <Fujitsu> robotgeek, you need to use iptables to direct all traffic on whatever port synergy uses to the wired Ethernet, and everything else to the wireless...
[11:46] <ubuntu_> ok in the wiki they said me hoe to
[11:46] <ubuntu_> how*
[11:46] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: Share Definitions?  I'm there.
[11:46] <ubuntu_> but i have a big problem
[11:46] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, yes
[11:46] <ubuntu_> i dont know the root password
[11:46] <Fujitsu> ubuntu_, what is wrong?
[11:46] <ubuntu_> :S
[11:46] <Fujitsu> ubuntu_, you don't need to!
[11:46] <Seveas> robotgeek, eep
[11:46] <robotgeek> Fujitsu: hmm, and i can have both interfaces up without any problems? just assign random ip's?
[11:46] <adriann> i am back
[11:47] <cbear> 1) could Fujitsu tell me what i need to remove again? iceauthority? is this an important file?
[11:47] <Seveas> ubuntu_, there is no root password
[11:47] <ubuntu_> yes they said i  need to extract to opt/firefox
[11:47] <Seveas> !tell ubuntu_ about root
[11:47] <robotgeek> Seveas: in action very quick, i see
[11:47] <Seveas> ubuntu_, use sudo
[11:47] <ubuntu_> and opt only root have access
[11:47] <Fujitsu> cbear, .iceauthority, unsure about the capitalisation.
[11:47] <Fujitsu> ubotu tell ubuntu_ about sudo
[11:47] <adriann> whats the best theme manager for ubuntu?
[11:47] <cbear> secondly, when I'm running as this user, i have no soundcard, it was working fine before
[11:47] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, in my file here I've got a share definition #ed out for the cd-rom, just above it, hit a couple of returns so that we can type in a share....
[11:47] <Madpilot> adriann: the one that's built into Gnome?
[11:48] <ubuntu_> thanks guys :)
[11:48] <Fujitsu> I would suppose so, adriann.
[11:48] <Madpilot> adriann: System menu --> Preferences --> Theme
[11:48] <mohkohn> Good morning. Having a problem with k3b:"Not enough space left in temporary directory "
[11:49] <Fujitsu> monkohn, in means what is says!
[11:49] <Fujitsu> *ot
[11:49] <Fujitsu> **it
[11:49] <peter__> check where you have the temponary directory, and look how much space you have left there
[11:49] <mohkohn> How do I adjust the size?
[11:49] <Fujitsu> Well everybody, I am off to bed.
[11:49] <peter__> and use your brain
[11:49] <peter__> cya
[11:49] <DRAGON_Ultra> nite
[11:49] <Fujitsu> Bye.
[11:49] <robotgeek> Fujitsu: nite, thanks
[11:49] <cdubya> later Fujitsu
[11:49] <ubuntu_> the command cp is for what ?
[11:50] <Fujitsu_zZz> ubuntu_, copying.
[11:50] <HappyFool> copying files
[11:50] <robotgeek> ubuntu_: copy, man cp for details
[11:50] <Seveas> Fujitsu_zZz, go to bed :p
[11:50] <cbear> also... ubuntu simply doesn't do things sometimes
[11:50] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, you going to be around tomorrow?
[11:50] <peter__> yeah get some sleep :D
[11:50] <siorai> Are there any particularly good media players for good visualizations?
[11:50] <Fujitsu_zZz> Seveas: Yes, immediately, sir!
[11:51] <derek[] > where's grub.conf stored?
[11:51] <cbear> /boot/grub
[11:51] <The_Vox> derek[] : /boot/grub
[11:51] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: I don't have "#ed", but there is a section commented as being for sharing the cd-rom, so I'm above that.
[11:51] <derek[] > /boot/grub$ ls -a
[11:51] <derek[] > .           e2fs_stage1_5  menu.lst           stage1
[11:51] <derek[] > ..          fat_stage1_5   minix_stage1_5     stage2
[11:51] <derek[] > device.map  jfs_stage1_5   reiserfs_stage1_5  xfs_stage1_5
[11:52] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: I could be.
[11:52] <robotgeek> derek[] : don't paste in here
[11:52] <HappyFool> don't paste here, please
[11:52] <derek[] > The_Vox, doesn't seem to be there
[11:52] <derek[] > sorry
[11:52] <HappyFool> derek[] : it's /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:52] <derek[] > hm
[11:52] <derek[] > why?
[11:52] <derek[] > what happened to grub.conf? :-)
[11:52] <Seveas> derek[] , grub.conf is a stupid redhat-ism
[11:52] <mohkohn> Trying gnomebaker. Seems to be working
[11:52] <derek[] > Seveas, ah I see
[11:52] <derek[] > k
[11:52] <cbear> my soundcard won't show up
[11:52] <Seveas> another crappy incompatible change in a crappy incompatible distro
[11:52] <mifritscher> hi
[11:53] <caturOK> is glib and glib-dev is different packet
[11:53] <Seveas> caturOK, yes
[11:53] <peter__> yes
[11:53] <Seveas> -dev contains the headers
[11:53] <robotgeek> Seveas: you seem to be in a nasty mood today :)
[11:53] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, if you're going to be around tomorrow, I'll be glad to continue helping, I just gotta get some sleep....if you want, this is for Hoary, but for the methodology I think should be the same...just follow the section for installing Samba with read/write, so that you can copy files like you want....that's if you don't want to wait and want to try to do it yourself or with the help of the pros here....:)
[11:53] <mifritscher> which module does create the /sys directory entries?
[11:53] <ubuntu_> i have problem moving firefox-1.5.tar.gz  to /opt/
[11:53] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, http://ubuntuguide.org/#installsamba
[11:53] <peter__> use sudo command
[11:53] <HappyFool> robotgeek: nah, he's mellow. hasn't kicked anyone for pasting yet :P
[11:53] <odat> i am trying to mount a second hard drive which is already formatted for linux / ubuntu it is visible through "system administraion disks" but i want to be able to see it and access it through the home directory browser any suggestions?
[11:53] <robotgeek> lol
[11:53] <Seveas> robotgeek, if you call this nasty, you don't want to catch me in a bad mood :)
[11:53] <Madpilot> !tell cdubya about ubuntuguide
[11:54] <caturOK> oh ic
[11:54] <Seveas> *barf*
[11:54] <Seveas> don't use the U word
[11:54] <derek[] > root            (hd0,1)
[11:54] <ubuntu_> in the terminal i do the command sudo cp etc..  ask me for a passwrod i put nothin only i click enter and show again the option to write
[11:54] <derek[] > is that MBR?
[11:54] <robotgeek> Seveas: heh. i'll make sure not to do that
[11:54] <Madpilot> !samba
[11:54] <ubotu> it has been said that samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[11:54] <Seveas> derek[] , no
[11:54] <derek[] > k
[11:54] <derek[] > what is it then?
[11:54] <derek[] > I'm trying to find out where did grub get installed
[11:54] <Seveas> it is hda1
[11:54] <caturOK> where can i download glib-dev.tar.gz
[11:54] <Seveas> it is hda2 even
[11:54] <cdubya> Madpilot, what was that?>
[11:54] <derek[] > dang
[11:54] <derek[] > why
[11:54] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: I'll take a look and see how it goes.  If that doesn't fly, did you have a particular time in mind for tomorrow?
[11:54] <derek[] > i installed linux on hda2
[11:54] <Seveas> that
[11:54] <Seveas> 's cool
[11:55] <Seveas> then it's correct
[11:55] <derek[] > what's correct?
[11:55] <Bluehorn> I'm having a curious network problem with Ubuntu (both breezy and hoary): The Realtek 8139 (on-board) is detected but has the MAC ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
[11:55] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, I'll probably be on I'd guess sometime this morning....heh
[11:55] <derek[] > hda1 is vfat
[11:55] <adriann> hey
[11:55] <cdubya> just gotta get a few hours more than I used to.....
[11:55] <topyli> caturOK: why? just install the package
[11:55] <derek[] > hi adriann
[11:55] <adriann> whats the best theme manager for linux?
[11:55] <Seveas> the 'root ...' line is just where your root partition (or /boot when you have it separate) is
[11:55] <Seveas> adriann, common sense
[11:55] <robotgeek> adriann: System -? Preferences -> Theme
[11:55] <caturOK> cause i want tar.gz packet
[11:55] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: I suppose knowing time zones would be intelligent.  I'm in UCT -5.
[11:55] <Bluehorn> I built in another network card (DEC Tulip), the driver gets loaded so there is eth0 and eth1 in syslog but only eth0 is "available" with the same problem again
[11:55] <caturOK> synaptic like windows software
[11:55] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, maybe say 12pm?
[11:55] <derek[] > Seveas, ??
[11:55] <caturOK> i don't like
[11:56] <derek[] > Seveas, the root is in hda2
[11:56] <tonyyarusso> (Eastern)
[11:56] <Charlize> hi
[11:56] <HappyFool> caturOK: then use aptitude
[11:56] <Bluehorn> Perhaps somebody has a hint - the installer worked fine with the network.
[11:56] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, CST here, in the midwest....yeehaw
[11:56] <cdubya> heh
[11:56] <Seveas> derek[] , what is your problem?
[11:56] <odat> i am trying to mount a second hard drive which is already formatted for linux / ubuntu it is visible through "system administraion disks" but i want to be able to see it and access it through the home directory browser any suggestions?
[11:56] <topyli> caturOK: use the package management or your system will soon be unmaintainable
[11:56] <caturOK> i like configure
[11:56] <HappyFool> caturOK: heard of LFS ?
[11:56] <topyli> caturOK: that's fine, just build packages when you're building stuff
[11:56] <derek[] > Seveas, trying to find out where grub is installed.. mbr or elsewhere
[11:57] <The_Vox> caturOK: using source packages on a distribution with package management is *dumb*
[11:57] <caturOK> cause this my connection not have ftp
[11:57] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: Okay, 12C should be fine if I have trouble.  Thanks.  (the Midwest is actually home for me; university right now.)
[11:57] <simonvallore> odat, yeah mount it in the fstab
[11:57] <Seveas> derek[] , you can't inspect mbr this way, it's not in the filesystem
[11:57] <derek[] > k
[11:57] <odat> simonvallore, not sure how to do that
[11:57] <Seveas> derek[] , just reboot, if grub is installed in MBR, you'll see grub :)
[11:57] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, cool. I'll try to make sure I'm on around then.....if not, I'll DEFINITELY be on a little later in the afternoon/evening, and again, happy to help any way I can....
[11:58] <derek[] > Seveas, I see it when I boot.
[11:58] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, only thing that may be a conflict is if I have to run out of town to handle some business....
[11:58] <derek[] > but root            (hd0,1)
[11:58] <derek[] > isn't that hda2 ?
[11:58] <cdubya> but that shouldn't be long at all
[11:58] <simonvallore> odat, cd /etc gedit fstab past this in /dev/hda1     /mnt/Win ntfs user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000   0   0 change the folder and file type ect ect
[11:58] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: Sounds good.  We'll see how this goes now...
[11:58] <cdubya> night all
[11:58] <Seveas> derek[] , that's hda2 indeed, but that 'root ...' line says nothing about where grub is installed
[11:59] <topyli> caturOK: once you install glib from the latest sources, what are you going to do about the dozens of packages that depend on it?
[11:59] <simonvallore> odat, if you do that it should work
[12:00] <HappyFool> Seveas, derek[] : i think derek[]  is trying to follow this howto: http://www.crhc.uiuc.edu/~mjmille2/howtos/dual-boot-linux-and-windows/
[12:00] <Seveas> topyli, some people like to torture themselves and are beyond help :)
[12:00] <derek[] > Seveas, ah ok. so we cannot find out if its in mbr or elsewhere
[12:00] <topyli> Seveas: bless them =)
[12:00] <Seveas> derek[] , ypu see it when booting, so it is installed in the MBR
[12:00] <derek[] > Seveas, ok
[12:00] <Seveas> topyli, www.funroll-loops.org
[12:01] <lucasvo> hey anybodzyt v
[12:01] <lucasvo> anybody already had problems with keyboar preferences
[12:01] <lucasvo> ?
[12:01] <topyli> Seveas: lol. i've had fun on that page before :)
[12:01] <Seveas> !tell lucasvo about anyone
[12:02] <HappyFool> keyboard prefs works fine for me. i've turned capslock into ctrl and enabled a compose key
[12:02] <lucasvo> I wanted to delete a shortcut but it made the shortcut backspace instead of disabled it so I cant press tbackspace anymoreabout m
[12:02] <lucasvo> Seveas: it is not that easy to write without backspace
[12:03] <Seveas> lucasvo, LOL :)
[12:03] <ubuntu_> how i get the recycle bin icon in the desktop ?
[12:03] <odat> simonvallore,  so under /dev/hda1 i shoud put /mnt/hdb1 ext3 eclecticpc,fmask=0111,dmask=0000       ???
[12:03] <Seveas> lucasvo, arrow keys + delete?
[12:03] <Seveas> ubuntu_, gconf-editor
[12:03] <Seveas> ubuntu_, go to /apps/nautilus/desktop
[12:04] <adriann> why does it seem that my torrent is now downloading?
[12:04] <derek[] > /sbin/grub-install /dev/hda2
[12:04] <derek[] > oops
[12:04] <derek[] > $ /sbin/grub-install /dev/hda2
[12:04] <derek[] > rm: cannot remove `/boot/grub/stage1': Permission denied
[12:05] <HrdwrBoB> sudo
[12:05] <Seveas> derek[] , as root
[12:05] <derek[] > yes
[12:05] <derek[] > but why is it trying to remove something?
[12:05] <Seveas> derek[] , and it *IS ALREADY INSTALLD*
[12:05] <Seveas> so tou don't need to do grub-install
[12:05] <derek[] > Seveas, yes, I want to install it to hda2
[12:05] <derek[] > Seveas, cuz soon the mbr will be washed off
[12:05] <Seveas> right
[12:05] <Seveas> then do it as root
[12:06] <derek[] > k, and what is it removing and why?
[12:06] <Seveas> it is removing grub, and reinstalling it to be booted from hda2
[12:06] <derek[] > hm
[12:07] <derek[] > can't it have it at two places
[12:07] <derek[] > :)
[12:07] <derek[] > and just use which ever it gets hold of
[12:07] <mp3guy> whats the best way to put a dir of files into a .jar file?
[12:07] <ubuntu_> where is nautilus ?
[12:07] <HrdwrBoB> mp3guy: using 'zip
[12:07] <HrdwrBoB> 'zip'
[12:07] <HrdwrBoB> jar ==zip
[12:07] <mp3guy> so zip the file?
[12:08] <HappyFool> 'man jar'
[12:08] <odat> simonvallore, ??? u there?
[12:09] <kenichi> how would you guys partition a 200gb disk for ubuntu?
[12:10] <HrdwrBoB> into one giant 200gb partition
[12:10] <Kaiser_Drinks> 50gig /, 140~ /home, 1-> 2 gig swap
[12:10] <HrdwrBoB> anything else will piss you off
[12:10] <HrdwrBoB> Kaiser_Drinks: why
[12:10] <HappyFool> kenichi: what purpose will the machine serve?
[12:10] <kenichi> i thought of a partition like this:
[12:10] <kenichi> 20gb    /    ext3
[12:10] <kenichi> 178bg    /home    ext3
[12:10] <kenichi> 2gb    swap
[12:11] <kenichi> my personal and only computer ;)
[12:11] <kenichi> im switching from windows, so i only know how to partition a windows system ;)
[12:11] <Kaiser_Drinks> HrdwrBoB: plenty of space for installing, and home free for new installs
[12:12] <HrdwrBoB> Kaiser_Drinks: given that you can upgrade in place, I wouldn't bother
[12:12] <HrdwrBoB> but it's up to you
[12:12] <HrdwrBoB> but everytime I've partitioned, it's come back to bite me in the arse
[12:12] <kenichi> hehe
[12:12] <HrdwrBoB> and I've put files in places I'd rather not
[12:12] <HappyFool> you might want to leave a few GB free to play with other OS's, but otherwise a single partition seems like a good idea to me
[12:13] <Madpilot> HrdwrBoB: I had hardware trouble just after I installed Ubuntu, and wound up re-installing twice. With "one giant partition" I'd have lost everything, probably...
[12:14] <kenichi> i thought, that an extra partition for root, one for home and one for swap would be a good idea in case of a crashed system. but im not using a windows system but a reliable linux system ;)
[12:14] <HrdwrBoB> what sort of hardware problem?
[12:14] <derek[] > Guys
[12:14] <derek[] > http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5323
[12:14] <derek[] > Please take a look. Did it go fine?
[12:14] <derek[] > What's this part: (hd0)   /dev/hda ?
[12:15] <Madpilot> HrdwrBoB: a borked motherboard, and something got corrupted inside the Ubuntu install...
[12:15] <HappyFool> derek[] : looks fine to me
[12:15] <HrdwrBoB> derek[] : hda is your hard drive
[12:15] <adriann> hey people...
[12:15] <derek[] > I installed it on hda2
[12:15] <HrdwrBoB> hd0 is grubs internal representation of that
[12:15] <adriann> can someone enlighten me please
[12:15] <adriann> i am in dire need
[12:16] <HappyFool> derek[] : it's just telling you what grub names map to what Linux names
[12:16] <Madpilot> adriann: please just ask your question...
[12:16] <derek[] > HrdwrBoB, so its just showing the drive? not the partition? (it did install on hda2 for sure?)
[12:16] <viller> i get this error when compiling gnu robots: configure: error: can't find X windows
[12:16] <adriann> where can i download xxx movies?
[12:16] <cbear> i deleted the /usr/bin/iceauth directory but no change
[12:16] <adriann> the best one u know
[12:16] <wickedpuppy> ....
[12:16] <HappyFool> derek[] : /dev/hda is the drive, /dev/hda1 (etc) are partitions on that drive
[12:16] <viller> what does it want? some dev files?
[12:16] <odat> anyone know what i need to get opengl support for an ati rage 128
[12:16] <derek[] > HappyFool, i know
[12:17] <wickedpuppy> adriann, thats not funny ...
[12:17] <HappyFool> heh
[12:17] <mifritscher> odat: the build in drives in X worked for me a year ago
[12:17] <derek[] > HappyFool, so it did install grub for sure on /dev/hda2 ? (just wanting to be sure.. cuz I'll be outta luck otherwise after reboot)
[12:17] <tonyyarusso> Once I've created a group, how can I add users to it from the command line?  (I know I can do this with a gui app, but just for curiosity.)
[12:17] <HappyFool> this is not really a warez channel
[12:17] <fabbione> adriann: http://archive.ubuntu.com/pool has the best porn
[12:17] <cbear> adduser
[12:17] <adriann> i am serious
[12:17] <syndicate> can anyone help me to install the gnome menu editor? apt-get install smeg says Couldn't find package smeg even after i uncommented everything in sources.list and ran apt-get update.
[12:17] <fabbione> adriann: so am i
[12:17] <cbear> tonyyarusso, adduser
[12:17] <HappyFool> derek[] : you're following the wiki instructions now?
[12:17] <odat> mifritscher, build in drives?
[12:17] <robotgeek> adriann: apt-get install pron-get
[12:17] <Madpilot> adriann: this isn't the channel for that...
[12:17] <derek[] > HappyFool, no
[12:17] <adriann> ii know
[12:17] <adriann> sorry
[12:18] <adriann> just wanna ask
[12:18] <adriann> i am jsut a kid
[12:18] <cbear> if you are unsure of a terminal command try apropos
[12:18] <robotgeek> adriann: it's not funny anymore, so please stop spamming
[12:18] <cbear> apropos adduser|more
[12:18] <HappyFool> derek[] : it looks right to me
[12:18] <derek[] > HappyFool, ok.
[12:18] <adriann> sorry
[12:18] <ubuntu_> which one linux distribution is more complete  ubuntu or mandriva ?
[12:19] <HappyFool> ubuntu_: you think you'll get an unbiased answer here?
[12:19] <robotgeek> ubuntu_: i've never used mandriva, ubuntu has abt 17k packages
[12:19] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu_, no comments
[12:19] <mjr> "complete" is not well-defined
[12:19] <mifritscher> odat: I menst the drives that are shiped with X
[12:19] <PokerFacePenguin> !tell adrians mother
[12:19] <PokerFacePenguin> lol
[12:19] <_JensBru> I installed http://www.sysresccd.org/
[12:19] <_JensBru> to get the qtparted tool launched
[12:19] <_JensBru> But the rescue cd hangs on "starting usb and pci hotplugging ...."
[12:20] <odat> mifritscher, then ubuntu already installed them?
[12:20] <_JensBru> I waited like 2-3 minutes, does nothing :(
[12:20] <raphink> ubuntu_: ubuntu, as a debian-based, is moer complete
[12:20] <tonyyarusso> cbear: How with adduser?  The things I thought would make sense aren't working...
[12:20] <mifritscher> odat, I think yes
[12:20] <_JensBru> And need to get qtparted tool launched to partition correctly
[12:20] <PokerFacePenguin> _JensBru: do you use ext3?
[12:20] <odat> mifritscher, then the rage 128 must really be a dog
[12:21] <_JensBru> PokerFacePengiun: I follow the tutorial from http://www.crhc.uiuc.edu/~mjmille2/howtos/dual-boot-linux-and-windows/
[12:21] <_JensBru> That is, i want to install Ubuntu in dual-boot
[12:21] <kemik> No Firefox 1.5 in Breezy until after it appears in Dapper.
[12:21] <kemik> why ?
[12:21] <Madpilot> _JensBru: have a look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[12:22] <odat> mifritscher, is that the case with the rage 128?
[12:22] <Madpilot> kemik: because it's got a massive # of dependences
[12:22] <mifritscher> I only installed it with a suse 7.3 or so *g*
[12:22] <Madpilot> *dependencies
[12:22] <tonyyarusso> Got it.
[12:22] <mifritscher> i didn't had to instal extra files
[12:22] <kemik> Madpilot:  aight
[12:23] <cbear> i've got some issues with sound and login going on here
[12:23] <Madpilot> kemik: search ubuntuforum.org, there's a thread there with, among other things, the truly massive list of dependencies
[12:23] <HNS> can anyone help me with a battery problem?
[12:23] <viller> i get this error when compiling gnu robots: configure: error: can't find X windows
[12:24] <HNS> acpi says: unable to read battery status ... anyone?
[12:24] <robotgeek> does anyone think that if upgrading a kernel, it should also update the kernel-headers package if installed?
[12:25] <syndicate> has anyone here installed gnome's menu editor?
[12:25] <odat> which is better an older 3dfx voodoo card or the ati rage 128?
[12:26] <cbear> can anyone help me out?
[12:26] <adriann> how can i view othere channels available in ubuntu servers?
[12:26] <viller> i get this error when compiling gnu robots: configure: error: can't find X windows
[12:28] <cbear> adriann, Window -> Channel List
[12:28] <adriann> why can't i find pron-get
[12:29] <odat> ?????
[12:30] <cbear> adriann, what command are you entering
[12:30] <cbear> oh well
[12:30] <quentin> :)
[12:30] <PokerFacePenguin> cbear: he is trying to be funny...pron=porn in 7l337 sp33k
[12:30] <viller> i get this error when compiling gnu robots: configure: error: can't find X windows
[12:30] <viller> can anyone help??
[12:31] <viller> what do I need to install???
[12:31] <quentin> est-ce qu'il ya un franais qui pourrait m'aider ici, j'ai un problme d'acclration 3D
[12:31] <robotgeek> viller: it's in the repos
[12:31] <viller> I'm running regular Ubuntu
[12:31] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell viller about universe
[12:31] <viller> i know what's repositories
[12:31] <robotgeek> viller: enable the universe repository, and 'sudo apt-get install gnurobots'
[12:32] <viller> oh
[12:32] <viller> but if i get this error again sometime
[12:32] <viller> how do i fix it?
[12:32] <Madpilot> viller: by installing stuff from the repos, via Synaptic?
[12:32] <viller> ok nvm
[12:33] <lanjelot> hi all. When booting, ntpdate init script fails. Is there a way to make it work ?
[12:33] <robotgeek> viller: you don't need to compile it, however if you insist, you can get all the required dependencies by 'sudo apt-get build-dep gnurobots'
[12:33] <HappyFool> viller: you need to install development packages, like x-window-system-dev
[12:34] <derek[] > bbl
[12:34] <derek[] > thanks!
[12:35] <sn0wman> anyone have a logitech G5 mouse?
[12:35] <cbear> my soundcard was working, but it has dissapperead from the desltop
[12:38] <sn0wman> why was your soundcard on your desktop?
[12:38] <shinu> still no ff1.5 package?
[12:38] <robotgeek> shinu: /topic
[12:38] <sn0wman> 1.5 is buggy
[12:38] <cbear> snowman, you know what i mean, the little sound icon shows i have no installed card
[12:39] <shinu> robotgeek: oh... i checked topic yesterday and i think it wasnt there...
[12:39] <cbear> but it loads the alsa drivers and my speakers pop on in startup, also the card is still there in the device manager
[12:39] <sn0wman> oh
[12:39] <sn0wman> ok
[12:39] <Stork> is it possible to make my computer boot from the CD without changing bios settings?
[12:39] <cbear> no
[12:39] <sn0wman> what happens when you run alsamixer?
[12:39] <Stork> great
[12:39] <cbear> why?
[12:39] <mifritscher> Stork, practically no
[12:39] <Stork> i can't install ubuntu then
[12:40] <Stork> some retard changed my admin password on my laptop and forgot it
[12:40] <cbear> unless your computer is always set to boot from cd
[12:40] <Hentai^XP2> Stork why not?
[12:40] <mifritscher> no :P
[12:40] <Hentai^XP2> stork remove cmos battery
[12:40] <Stork> i can't change any of the settings so it boots from CD
[12:40] <dokkeri> Might be hard on a laptop...
[12:40] <Stork> Hentai^XP2: would that have any other consequences?
[12:40] <kenichi> is it possible to resize partitions without losing data
[12:40] <robotgeek> Stork: yes, remove battery/reset button somewhere
[12:40] <cbear> snowman, where do i go for alsamixer?
[12:40] <Madpilot> Stork: you can often reset the whole CMOS - my desktop mobo has a jumper you move - or yanking the batter works
[12:40] <Hentai^XP2> Stork loose bios settings
[12:40] <mifritscher> when this doesn't work: use vmware, qemu or so to isntall it in the physikal partiton
[12:40] <mifritscher> hmm
[12:41] <Stork> i did that on my other computer, but i don't care if i screw that one up
[12:41] <[matrim] > Anyone else have a problem with X dieing when updating to breezy?
[12:41] <mifritscher> or you try to press ESC shortly befr it boots the windows boot loader
[12:41] <Stork> i was going to format & re-install windows, but windows is for noobs.
[12:41] <robotgeek> Stork: clock loses time, you can get that back later. nothing serious
[12:41] <sn0wman> cbear: it's part of alsa-utils
[12:41] <sn0wman> cbear: there's also a gnome-alsamixer
[12:41] <Hentai^XP2> stork lol yes windows is for noobs....
[12:41] <Stork> that's why i have it
[12:41] <Hentai^XP2> yeah me :>
[12:42] <Hentai^XP2> atoo
[12:42] <Hentai^XP2> -a
[12:42] <Stork> and at school they force us to do ICT projects using substandard microsoft office products
[12:42] <mifritscher> stork, many BIOS allows to select the boot device with ESC
[12:42] <Stork> it's sickening, at best
[12:42] <Stork> alright, well i'll try that
[12:42] <Hentai^XP2> mifritscher won't work
[12:42] <Hentai^XP2> if admin PWD
[12:42] <Stork> if not i guess i'll just rip open my lappytop
[12:42] <chris_> For Dells you push F12 on the starup screen to select a boot device
[12:42] <Stork> interesting
[12:42] <Stork> i'll try that
[12:42] <Stork> thanks & bye
[12:43] <Madpilot> Stork: check your manual or the web, the CMOS reset or battery shouldn't be that hard to get to?
[12:43] <mifritscher> Hentai^XP2, some BIOSES doesn't aks for a passwork if they are waked up from LAN *g*
[12:43] <mifritscher> so there is a chance...
[12:43] <Madpilot> later, all
[12:43] <shinu> robotgeek: so do you know if ff1.5 gonna appear in dapper anytime soon? i might compile ff1.5 on breezy if it takes too long...
[12:44] <[matrim] > anyone know any normal bug that couses   "/etc/X11/X is not executeble" ?
[12:44] <mifritscher> hmm, which kernel modul does populate the /sys ?
[12:44] <robotgeek> shinu: no, i don't know. i don't use ffox
[12:44] <sdakota> hi guys
[12:44] <sdakota> how do I limit the bandwidth?
[12:44] <shinu> robotgeek: what do you use then ? :)
[12:44] <robotgeek> shinu: mozilla
[12:45] <shinu> robotgeek: i see, latest is 1.7.3 or something right?
[12:45] <robotgeek> shinu: firefox is a memory hog. i just use the one from ubuntu
[12:45] <sdakota> how do I limit the bandwidth that I can use globally on the server, or limit the bandwidth a specific program can use (for example, apt's bandwidth)
[12:45] <robotgeek> shinu: 1.7.12
[12:46] <Hentai^XP2> mifritscher interseting
[12:46] <shinu> robotgeek: ah, yesyes thats the one i have
[12:46] <Hentai^XP2> thanks mifritscher
[12:46] <tonyyarusso> What apps can play .avi format movies in linux?
[12:46] <mifritscher> no problem ;)
[12:46] <shinu> robotgeek: the one from ubuntu = the firefox that comes with ubuntu?
[12:46] <shinu> tonyyarusso: mplayer :D
[12:47] <sdakota> anyone: how do I limit the bandwidth that I can use globally on the server, or limit the bandwidth a specific program can use (for example, apt's bandwidth)
[12:47] <shinu> tonyyarusso: if you get the codecs that is :P
[12:47] <robotgeek> shinu: yes, but mozilla which comes with ubuntu
[12:47] <wickedpuppy> tonyyarusso, get vlc .. and codecs
[12:47] <cbear> anyone know how to activate a sound card?
[12:47] <tonyyarusso> shine and wickedpuppy: And how do I get the codecs separately?
[12:47] <wickedpuppy> !codecs
[12:47] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[12:47] <wickedpuppy> !avi
[12:47] <ubotu> hmm... avi is Video for Windows. For more info http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:47] <cbear> !codecs
[12:48] <shinu> robotgeek: k ill give mozilla a try.. ive just been using firefox and never really tried mozilla. :D
[12:48] <cbear> ya where are the seperate codecs for vlc
[12:48] <cbear> anyone know how to activate a sound card?
[12:48] <robotgeek> shinu: :)
[12:48] <wickedpuppy> cbear, codecs are codecs ... why you need codecs for every player you got ?
[12:49] <robotgeek> cbear: vlc plays most of the formats
[12:50] <robotgeek> alrite, nite folks
[12:50] <tonyyarusso> So is there one set of codecs somewhere, or separate ones for each player?
[12:51] <wickedpuppy> tonyyarusso, get vlc and play the avi file ... if you can't get the codecs and try again .. if you still can't then come back
[12:52] <tonyyarusso> wickedpuppy: The big question being how does one "get the codecs"?
[12:52] <wickedpuppy> !avi
[12:52] <ubotu> well, avi is Video for Windows. For more info http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:52] <HeMan> Hi! is there anyway to check all files installed by ubuntu, like "rpm -Va" does?
[12:53] <service_> hi
[12:53] <welp> y0
[12:53] <wickedpuppy> HeMan, you can check out the installed apps in synaptic
[12:53] <service_> what r u
[12:53] <service_> ubundu
[12:54] <service_> clear
[12:54] <service_> helow any one there
[12:54] <service_> day
[12:54] <wickedpuppy> service_, if you need help just ask instead of making silly noise ?
[12:55] <HeMan> wickedpuppy: yes, but i like to ensure that all files installed are correct, for example checking checksums and permissions
[12:55] <rhalff> hi anyone care to brag about their knowledge of sata2 harddrives ?
[12:55] <robotgeek_zzz> HeMan: dpkg -l | less
[12:55] <service_> i cant do network sharing with windows
[12:56] <wickedpuppy> HeMan, if they are green then they are fine ... btw unless you are using unofficial repos then nothing should be wrong .. oh and follow robotgeek_zzz if you want command line
[12:56] <wickedpuppy> service_, i believe thats a samba question ?
[12:56] <service_> no i do all,but it is ask for password
[12:56] <HeMan> i have had a filesystem crash and fsck told me it was changing some files so i like to be sure that the files are correct
[12:57] <wickedpuppy> HeMan, then you can fsck again to be sure :P
[12:57] <grayman> damn
[12:57] <grayman> i always liked how that tool is called
[12:57] <mifritscher> he means that the files could be internly corrupted, not the file system structures I think
[12:58] <HeMan> wickedpuppy: well, that just tell me my filesystem is correct, not that the files in there are correct
[12:58] <wickedpuppy> oh hmms ...
[12:58] <grayman> erm what files it changed?
[12:58] <mifritscher> but in 99% only files that were changed in this moment can be crrupt
[12:58] <wickedpuppy> really ... in this case ... you want to check the integrity of the files ? you can md5 all .. one by one
[12:58] <HeMan> i like to compare checksums of all my installed files with what the .deb's think it should be
[12:58] <grayman> thats what i wanted to suggest
[12:59] <grayman> ninjas
[12:59] <HeMan> wickedpuppy: i like to compare them to something, the md5 by it self is pretty uninterresting i think
[12:59] <mifritscher> but you have savd the fsck-log, don't you ;)
[12:59] <mifritscher> if it's was during booting look into messages or syslog
[01:00] <HeMan> mifritscher: i had to boot into singleuser and i rebooted
[01:00] <mifritscher> not good :(
[01:01] <HeMan> what i want is to ask dpkg or apt to check all the files installed against checksums in the database, how do i do that?
[01:01] <brlancer> anyone know why apt says http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/binary-powerpc/Packages.gz isn't in gzip format?
[01:01] <HeMan> i assume that the package database contains that information
[01:01] <mifritscher> hmm
[01:01] <brlancer> when I fetch it directly, gzip says it's fine
[01:02] <cbear> no one has any idea how to get my soundcard working?
[01:02] <mifritscher> HeMan, it could only corrupt the files you changed right i that moment
[01:02] <mifritscher> +n
[01:03] <HeMan> mifritscher: if my harddrive is working and is not broken, but since i'm not sure it is working i'd like to check everything
[01:04] <mifritscher> HeMan, so you think you have hardware failure?
[01:04] <HeMan> just like i can do with "rpm -Va" on rpm-based instalations
[01:05] <mifritscher> but this way you could only check ca. 40-50%
[01:05] <HeMan> mifritscher: i'm downloading smartmontools to se what the harddrive say
[01:05] <mifritscher> ok
[01:05] <HeMan> don't the package database contain _any_ checksums?
[01:06] <mifritscher> a simple test is dd if=/dev/hdx of=/dev/null
[01:06] <mifritscher> if it can read all blocks all should be ok
[01:06] <HeMan> mifritscher: it still doesn't tell me if any files are corrupt
[01:06] <mifritscher> because the HDD has more than enough internal checksum checking
[01:07] <tonyyarusso> If I have an ad-hoc wireless network created, and samba all set up, and another computer running Windows XP successfully connected to that network, how do I access the folder of samba-shared files from the WXP computer?
[01:07] <HeMan> tonyyarusso: \\ipadress\ on you WXP
[01:07] <chris_> \\hostname\share
[01:08] <HeMan> but there is no checksums in the package database?
[01:08] <mifritscher> hmm, I don't know ;)
[01:08] <mifritscher> the mc can open the
[01:08] <mifritscher> deb-files
[01:08] <HeMan> should you allways run for example aide?
[01:08] <mifritscher> so look in it with it ;)
[01:09] <mifritscher> mc=midnight-commander
[01:12] <sdakota> anyone: how do I limit the bandwidth that I can use globally on the server, or limit the bandwidth a specific program can use (for example, apt's bandwidth)
[01:14] <HeMan> sdakota: to limit download bandwidth you have to configure your router/firewall
[01:14] <arod> which kernel for pentiumM processor? 686?
[01:14] <sdakota> HeMan: my router can't do any limiting, and there is no firewall installed ... :$
[01:14] <HeMan> sdakota: then you have a problem...
[01:14] <wickedpuppy> arod, 386 will do .. you can get 686 if you wish
[01:15] <sdakota> ehm. has anyone here got some perfect server setup for ubuntu breezy guide?
[01:15] <Shish_> sdakota: perfect depends on your needs, and everyone's are different...
[01:15] <arod> wickedpuppy, with sarge I compile my own kernel and select pentiumM support. is
[01:15] <HeMan> sdakota: there is a way to do a somewhat speculative bandwidth limitim by limit the ack's from you compuer
[01:15] <arod> do I need a custom kernel?
[01:16] <wickedpuppy> arod, well you can always compile a kernel if you wish ... :P
[01:16] <wickedpuppy> arod, need and want are different things
[01:16] <HeMan> arod: i have a pentium M with the stock 686 kernel
[01:16] <sdakota> Shish_: nameserver, webserver, ftpserver, mailserver. Configured by myself, not some program like ISPConfig or anything.
[01:16] <arod> as far as I can see this kernel is scaling frequency
[01:16] <HeMan> works fine with speedstep and everything
[01:17] <deluxe> hello
[01:17] <deluxe> can somebody help me to install my audio?
[01:17] <sdakota> isn't this illegal: http://www.ebay.com.sg/viItem?ItemId=7199424895
[01:18] <cbear> deluxe i've been trying all nite and no one responds
[01:18] <deluxe> fuck :/
[01:18] <wickedpuppy> language pls
[01:18] <arod> from /boot/config: # CONFIG_MPENTIUMM is not set
[01:18] <jono> hi all
[01:18] <HeMan> deluxe: the installer didn't do it for you?
[01:18] <cbear> i have a different problem though so you might try the ubuntu guide
[01:18] <jono> dpkg is throwing back errors about configuring mythtv but I know it is fixed - how can I clear the error?
[01:18] <deluxe> no didn't
[01:19] <deluxe> i think the wrong driver or somthing
[01:19] <deluxe> but i am not sure
[01:19] <deluxe> i cannot edit those audio settings
[01:19] <HeMan> deluxe: what soundcard do you have?
[01:19] <deluxe> AND the installer didn't ask for a root pass
[01:19] <deluxe> hold
[01:19] <wickedpuppy> !tell Delgul
[01:19] <hydroksyde> Has anybody here every built an ubuntu box for a less computer literate friend? how did they respond to it?
[01:19] <sdakota> isn't this illegal: http://www.ebay.com.sg/viItem?ItemId=7199424895 !!!!!!!
[01:19] <wickedpuppy> !tell deluxe about sudo
[01:20] <wickedpuppy> hydroksyde, they love it
[01:20] <deluxe> HeMan, i dont know :/ a normal soundcard from my fujitsu siemens
[01:20] <hydroksyde> sdakota: The GPL allows selling an OS
[01:21] <hydroksyde> it just says you can't threaten people if they burn copies of it and sell/give them away
[01:21] <sdakota> hydroksyde, but someone bought that for 14 dollars - but these cd's can be ordered completely free of charge o.O
[01:22] <sdakota> what is "dapper" o.O
[01:22] <hydroksyde> sdakota: It's simply a case of buyer beware
[01:22] <sdakota> a new version of ubuntu after hoary and breezy?
[01:22] <cbear> looks illegal
[01:22] <sdakota> hydroksyde, need to remember that if I'm ever going to buy something
[01:22] <jono> anyone? this is driving me mad
[01:22] <hydroksyde> However, there might actually be some benefit for me in buying them, if I really wanted to
[01:22] <HeMan> deluxe: what does ''cat /proc/asound/devices' give?
[01:23] <cbear> jono, did u check man dpkg ?
[01:23] <sdakota> jono: sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv
[01:23] <hydroksyde> ubuntu CDs take months to get here from shipit
[01:23] <sdakota> jono: does that work?
[01:23] <hydroksyde> I recieved my 5.04 CDs in november
[01:23] <sdakota> hydroksyde, i know, me too
[01:23] <sdakota> hydroksyde, though, I wouldn't pay 14 euros to get a cd two months earlier
[01:23] <jono> sdakota, it says the package is broken or not fully installed, but it works finme
[01:24] <HeMan> hydroksyde: but they look great, just got my 5.10s
[01:24] <sdakota> jono: sudo apt-get remove mythtv
[01:24] <sdakota> jono: then sudo apt-get install mythtv
[01:24] <deluxe> HeMan,
[01:24] <deluxe> simon@ubuntu:~$ ''cat /proc/asound/devices
[01:24] <deluxe>  16: [0- 0] : digital audio playback
[01:24] <deluxe>  24: [0- 0] : digital audio capture
[01:24] <deluxe>   0: [0- 0] : ctl
[01:24] <deluxe>  33:       : timer
[01:24] <wickedpuppy> !pastebin
[01:24] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[01:25] <wickedpuppy> deluxe, pls paste there next time
[01:25] <deluxe> ok thx
[01:25] <deluxe> i didn't know
[01:25] <deluxe> sorry
[01:25] <hydroksyde> sdakota: It's not really that much different to http://www.xsolutions.co.nz/
[01:25] <sdakota> jono: if that doesn't help, you can try   sudo apt-get -f install
[01:26] <jono> its daying access is denied for my mysql user - I need to find out where it connects though so I can update the settings
[01:26] <deluxe> ok, so HeMan http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/447141
[01:26] <jono> is it possible to ignore package problems - the main issue is that I am trying to install another package and these mythtv errors are causing problems for me
[01:27] <sdakota> hydroksyde, it shows 4 distro's for servers, ... what distribution do you think is best for pure servers? (NS, web, ftp, mail)
[01:28] <HeMan> deluxe: that suggests that you soundcard _is_ configured...
[01:28] <jim_hough> anyone know much about dual head setups?
[01:28] <deluxe> but i cannot hear anything when i want to play an p3...
[01:28] <hydroksyde> sadakota: well, i'd personally have to say slackware, *BSD is good too
[01:28] <deluxe> *mp3
[01:29] <hydroksyde> ubuntu would make a fine server on it's own, but others are possibly more suited
[01:29] <sdakota> hydroksyde, sdakota ;) if you would want to install an optimal server, what would you choose?
[01:29] <wickedpuppy> hydroksyde, you forgot debian :P
[01:29] <chris_> gentoo with no x system
[01:29] <Andypoo> sdakota: It really depends on which you're prepared/comfortable to sit down and configure.
[01:29] <_JensBru> hey guys, dual-booting works great
[01:30] <_JensBru> really good first impression of ubuntu :)
[01:30] <wickedpuppy> chris_, you want to compile everytime apache come up with a new version ?
[01:30] <hydroksyde> wickedpuppy: Maybe. I've never used debian before (apart from deb based distros). I'm a slackware elitist =P
[01:30] <chris_> emerge apache
[01:30] <chris_> done overnight
[01:30] <Andypoo> Apache actually compiles relatively quickly.
[01:30] <bzimage> yes
[01:30] <bzimage> 2 minutes
[01:30] <bzimage> approx
[01:31] <HeMan> hydroksyde: i think the right name is "slackware zealot"... :-)
[01:31] <anna> hi, can someone tell me how to start wine please?
[01:31] <sdakota> Andypoo, I don't mind to do a lot of configuring work... but I need at least a bit of help with nw configuration things that I never did before.
[01:31] <wickedpuppy> anna, wine /path/to/exe
[01:31] <anna> thank you wickeduppy
[01:31] <bzimage> HeMan, lol
[01:32] <ompaul> hydroksyde, there is an actual Ubuntu Server disk
[01:32] <jim_hough> anyone know how a dual head setup works regarding X?
[01:32] <hydroksyde> jim_hough: with or without xinerama?
[01:32] <_JensBru> btw, how do i make my wireless network work on Ubuntu?
[01:32] <anna> but isnt there another way to start the program? i cant find it in the programs
[01:32] <Trackilizer> Hey guys.
[01:33] <hydroksyde> anna: Set up .exe files as a file type in gnome.
[01:33] <Trackilizer> Just wanted to ask is there anyway i can extract a .bin image file like you would exract a .rar file?
[01:33] <mifritscher> sdakota, you can basically use every distro...
[01:33] <hydroksyde> use wine as the launcher
[01:33] <hydroksyde> except linspire
[01:33] <bzimage> sdakota, most distro will be able to be a good server.. it all depends on your configuration and software choise
[01:33] <bzimage> choice i ment
[01:33] <bzimage> ;)
[01:33] <anna> sorry, i dont understand ;)
[01:33] <cbear> can anyone help me install audio?
[01:33] <hydroksyde> sdakota: Slackware
[01:33] <chris_> anna if you have a broadcom chipset card or other Windows cards, NDISWRAPPER can get it working with the windows drivers
[01:33] <wickedpuppy> Trackilizer, bin stands for binary
[01:33] <jim_hough> hydroksyde: without, i set it up via 'fglrxconfig'
[01:34] <hydroksyde> anna: you use gnome?
[01:34] <ompaul> hydroksyde, so I go to #slackoff and then start saying use ubuntu - cop on to yourself
[01:34] <anna> okay.. now im confused *haha
[01:34] <Trackilizer> I mean the .bin file that comes with a .cue file.
[01:34] <sdakota> mifritscher, bzimage, but not all distro's have the same efficiency for servers (software choice: probably bind9, apache, proftpd, and postfix)
[01:34] <wickedpuppy> Trackilizer, oh ... no idea
[01:34] <anna> im totally new to linux ..
[01:34] <hydroksyde> ompaul: he asked which distro would be a good server distro
[01:34] <bzimage> sdakota, if it's not aviable on the distro by default, you can manually install it
[01:35] <chris_> what wireless card are you using?
[01:35] <hydroksyde> ompaul: I have pointed out that ubuntu would do fine
[01:35] <mifritscher> sdakota, I use debian on my internet server and ubuntu locally
[01:35] <sdakota> anna: Exe's are actually for windows. If there is really NO Linux version of the program you want to use, or there is no program you can use instead of the program you would use in Windows, you'd use WINE, but otherwise, it's way better to use the Linux version/program.
[01:35] <mifritscher> and they both work well
[01:35] <Trackilizer> So, there isn't an app out there that would do that for me?
[01:35] <ompaul> hydroksyde, then you can be non specific about the rest, except where you said it would not do :-) and there I agree with you
[01:35] <Trackilizer> Well, thanks anyways
[01:36] <ironi_> hi
[01:36] <bzimage> sdakota, it's a personal taste... more or less
[01:36] <sdakota> bzimage: I know, but some distro's are better as servers, compared to others
[01:36] <bzimage> ;)
[01:36] <bzimage> sdakota, because?
[01:36] <anna> sdakota, yes youre right, but there are some programs that are only available for windows..
[01:36] <sdakota> mifritscher, so you would still choose debian if you want to install an optimal server?
[01:36] <sdakota> anna: like?
[01:36] <ironi_> im trying to install ubuntu but i cant get past the partitioner. when i choose finish it just comes up again
[01:36] <ompaul> hydroksyde, have a coffee :-)
[01:37] <anna> hmm.. dont know ^^
[01:37] <hydroksyde> I just had tea
[01:37] <sdakota> bzimage: dunno - unneeded installed programs - using other ways to do things...
[01:37] <sdakota> anna: what program are you trying to run
[01:37] <HeMan> sdakota: debian or ubuntu when ubuntu 6.04 gets out
[01:37] <alex__> wow this is cool
[01:37] <mifritscher> sdakota, yes, or ubuntu
[01:37] <mifritscher> internet and local server are configured almost the same way
[01:37] <Stork> awesome, linux!! :D:D
[01:37] <anna> oh my god.. im so stupid :( i totally forgot, which program i wanted to run with wine o:O
[01:37] <ironi_> anyone? i have never experienced something like this
[01:37] <chris_> best server software IMO is a kernel stripped of anything unnessesary and what is usually no in "stock" kernels (but needed for servers) not added in as modules, but compiled into the kernel.  Gentoo seems to offer
[01:38] <Stork> WOOT I'VE GOT LINUX!
[01:38] <ompaul> propagandhi, whyfor do I deserve this honour
[01:38] <anna> ah!! i just remebered
[01:38] <ompaul> Stork, welcome to the club
[01:38] <propagandhi> why for?
[01:38] <sdakota> anna: lol =) Probably if Wine is installed then it should be in the programs list
[01:38] <Stork> it's my first time :)
[01:38] <sdakota> Stork: Congratulations!
[01:38] <bzimage> sdakota, many servers run Debian.. many run Slackware and many run Fedora/redhat version.. but you simply cannot state that one distro is perfect for server usage.. because in the end it's all about the packaged installed and the configuration along with it
[01:38] <ironi_> *help* :(
[01:38] <bzimage> packages i ment] 
[01:38] <ompaul> propagandhi, olde english (why did you say that? new version :))
[01:38] <anna> i wanted to install a program to drag mp3 files to my mobile phone
[01:38] <Stork> man this is cool
[01:39] <cbear> how do i set up audio?
[01:39] <sdakota> bzimage: so - what do you recommend for me?
[01:39] <_JensBru> RedHat is used alot for Oracle DB-servers
[01:39] <sdakota> Stork, Agreed ^^
[01:39] <Stork> :D
[01:39] <sdakota> Stork, do you play games much?
[01:39] <anna> sdakota.... i cant find it in the program list..
[01:39] <_JensBru> since Oracle supports RedHat;
[01:39] <Stork> sdakota not really, why?
[01:39] <propagandhi> oh and heres me thinking it was just bad grammar
[01:39] <sdakota> anna: is it installed
[01:39] <bzimage> sdakota, any distro you feel happy with..
[01:39] <bzimage> ;)
[01:39] <anna> yes i istalles it with synaptic
[01:40] <ironi_> is there anyone who can gimem a hand on my problem ...is this a support channel or a dist flamewar channel
[01:40] <anna> installed
[01:40] <sdakota> Stork: Then you're safe. Though, if you want to play a game, there are a few nice classic games available ^^
[01:40] <win[X] amp> how to install xmms
[01:40] <Stork> whoops
[01:40] <win[X] amp> anyone can help me
[01:40] <Stork> still figuring out how to use ubuntu :)
[01:40] <_JensBru> in installation of Ubuntu, i didn't get to configure root account
[01:40] <bzimage> ironi_, you're right.. sorry
[01:40] <bzimage> ;)
[01:40] <wickedpuppy> !tell sudo to _JensBru
[01:40] <ompaul> _JensBru, that is because it is not there we use sudo
[01:40] <Stork> oh man ubuntu is great
[01:40] <wickedpuppy> ah heck
[01:40] <sdakota> bzimage: I never used slackware, never used debian, I did use redhat but it wasn't really what I wanted (no support for my hardware), I even used CentOS but I missed some Debian features too much (One great example: aptitude!)
[01:40] <ironi_> bzimage: anywhere i can go to get some help from ppl who have a clue?
[01:41] <_JensBru> o
[01:41] <_JensBru> so no more 'root' user
[01:41] <hydroksyde> sdakota: My explanation: Slackware, if you know how to use it correctly. Packages don't get updated only for security reasons, except between versions of the distro. And versions of packages are chosen conservatively. There are also no fancy graphical config tools to mess things up
[01:41] <sdakota> wickedpuppy, isn't the syntax !tell _JensBru about sudo?
[01:41] <ironi_> not just a bunch of newbie who ask things they could easily read online
[01:41] <bzimage> ironi_, here you can.. or #linux channel
[01:41] <ompaul> _JensBru, read the message from ubotu
[01:41] <ironi_> bzimage: noone seems to hear my question.
[01:41] <www> hello
[01:41] <wickedpuppy> sdakota, oh yah ...
[01:41] <wickedpuppy> lol
[01:41] <sdakota> !tell _JensBru about sudo
[01:41] <hydroksyde> i mean, they get updated only when needed
[01:42] <bzimage> ironi_, that's because the channels are crowded with help screams.. ;-)
[01:42] <bzimage> try again
[01:42] <_JensBru> thanks guys
[01:42] <sdakota> !tell sudo to me
[01:42] <www> whats the quickest way to get java running on firefox?
[01:42] <ompaul> !tell sdakota about sudo
[01:42] <hydroksyde> www: There is possibly an xpi package
[01:42] <sdakota> ompaul: omg - that didn't make any sense to me .
[01:42] <hydroksyde> !tell me about sudo
[01:43] <www> hydroksyde: excuse the noobishness, but when can i find it?
[01:43] <sdakota> ompaul: read what I said to wickedpuppy >.<
[01:43] <sn0wman> www: apt-get install j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin
[01:43] <sdakota> ompaul: just wanted to see what happened .
[01:43] <ompaul> sdakota, read the web page associated with it, if your still stuck join #ubuntu-offtopic for further discussion
[01:43] <bzimage> sdakota, as i said.. use the distro you feel comfortable with.. ;)
[01:43] <chris_> goto java website, download linux version, install compiler base tools, run script, goto /usr/...mozilla-firefox/plugins and create a symbolic link to the java directory... Instructions are on the java site
[01:43] <HappyFool> !tell www about javadeb
[01:44] <ironi_> HELP: I try to isnatll ubuntu, but I cant get past the disk paritioner, it just keeps re-showing when i try to select "Finish changes"
[01:44] <wickedpuppy> eh ompaul it isn't sdakota who needs help with sudo :P its someone else
[01:44] <chris_> ok I do things the hard way :)
[01:44] <sdakota> ompaul: there is just one reason I don't say "shut up", and that is because you still said it nicely... but really, that was senseless.
[01:45] <www> this is what happened, came up with errors...
[01:45] <www> http://pastebin.com/447153
[01:45] <anna> lol
[01:45] <BlueEagle> www: sudo
[01:45] <hydroksyde> www: try "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[01:45] <BlueEagle> ahh nvrmnd
[01:46] <HappyFool> he did. try the 'sudo apt-get' again
[01:47] <www> ah. its unpacking now. hopefully should work.
[01:47] <sdakota> HappyFool: and what would you recommend to use as distribution for a server (NS, Web, ftp, mail)
[01:47] <sn0wman> lol
[01:47] <ProN00b> uhm, can anyone tell me how i can control oom-killer ? is there a config file ?
[01:47] <sdakota> was bzimage using IPv6? o.O
[01:47] <ProN00b> sdakota, plain stable debian (with ofcourse all services killed off after installing)
[01:47] <www> just downloading it npw
[01:47] <www> now*
[01:48] <www> will come back later to let you know how i got on
[01:48] <HappyFool> sdakota: ubuntu is a reasonable choice. You can downloaded the 'server edition' CD of breezy, which comes with a reasonable selection of stuff, but no X
[01:48] <www> thanks for the help!
[01:48] <sdakota> ProN00b: ok
[01:48] <chris_> www the site is http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
[01:48] <HappyFool> sdakota: my experience in this field is limited, though
[01:48] <hydroksyde> sdakota: ProN00b is right... Whenever I install a new OS, I always run nmap on it, and kill off any unneeded services that come up
[01:48] <sdakota> HappyFool: yea, i've been using ubuntu untill now, just wanted to know if there were any better choices
[01:48] <www> can you not also type "server" when you start the installer cd?
[01:48] <HappyFool> www: yeah, but the server edition CD has a different package selection
[01:49] <ProN00b> hydroksyde, netstat -naptuw is what i prefer
[01:49] <sdakota> HappyFool: really? what are the differences?
[01:49] <HappyFool> sdakota: it's not that big a deal. go with what you're comfortable with
[01:49] <HappyFool> sdakota: afaik kernels for more architectures; it also has (i think) apache and moin and other stuff not on the normal install cd
[01:50] <ProN00b> so, can anyone help me finding the config file or anything similar for oom-killer (kernel module that kills off processes freezing the system) ?
[01:50] <Necrosan> How do i install fonts?
[01:50] <sdakota> HappyFool: thats the problem, the only distro's i've used were ubuntu, suse, redhat and centos
[01:50] <Necrosan> I have two .bz2's with a subdir ttf and a whole buncha fonts in em
[01:50] <Necrosan> id like them installed system wide
[01:50] <HappyFool> sdakota: so choose one of them ;). i recommend go with what you know
[01:50] <sdakota> HappyFool, I'll just stay with Ubuntu, probably. It's easy and it works.
[01:51] <ProN00b> sdakota, all you named except ubuntu are teh shit ^^
[01:51] <chris_> Windows Server 2003, only around $1000-$1500!
[01:51] <HeMan> yes, a good way to get a bad installation is to go with a distribution you don't know...
[01:51] <sdakota> HappyFool: Btw, do you know if there is some guide on a perfect server setup for ubuntu?
[01:51] <ProN00b> ubuntu is like the desktop debian, so why not use the debian for servers, sdakota (you getting great tutorials for all kinds of debian admin tasks online)
[01:52] <hydroksyde> sdakota: I suggest you play around with other distros as well, have you tried qemu (PC emulator)?
[01:52] <sdakota> ProN00b, ok, then I'll choose debian ;)
[01:52] <mifritscher> and debian and ubuntu are really ver similiar
[01:52] <sdakota> hydroksyde, nah, but I'm currently on Windows (*shame*) so can't try qemu
[01:52] <nubbe> is beagle and mono included ubuntu-desktop now? or with k3b?  I have it but don't now how I got it....
[01:52] <HeMan> sdakota: "perfect" is very personal, perfect for me isn't always perfect for others...
[01:53] <hydroksyde> I think there is a windows version
[01:53] <ompaul> ProN00b, because you don't have to
[01:53] <ProN00b> chris_, windows haxx0r edition 2k6 only around 50cent !
[01:53] <Necrosan> Anyone?
[01:53] <mifritscher> sdakota, ther is qemu for windows ;)
[01:53] <SockerFot> hello
[01:53] <Necrosan> Where do I put extra fonts i downloaded
[01:53] <SockerFot> okay, laugh at me now but i dont get this
[01:53] <hantu8> hallo all
[01:53] <linuxgeek2> yes
[01:53] <linuxgeek2> hallo
[01:53] <ProN00b> ompaul, what ?
[01:53] <HappyFool> sdakota: i'm afraid not, no. I recommend writing done your requirements, draw up a list of software you will need to install to satisfy them and then decide on an install/setup plan
[01:53] <chris_> ProN00b, Server 2003 as secure a an unlocked Mercedes in the Bronx
[01:53] <SockerFot> i downloaded Ubuntu live and burned it as a bootable cd, and when i input it i suddenly is in something called "DR-DOS" and i dont understand anything. What should i do?
[01:54] <linuxgeek2> just reboot ur machine SockerFot
[01:54] <ompaul> ProN00b, you don't have to choose Debian, Ubuntu can do the same job
[01:54] <SockerFot> linuxgeek2 what?
[01:54] <SockerFot> why?
[01:54] <linuxgeek2> what are u trying to do ?
[01:54] <HappyFool> SockerFot: i don't think you need to burn the cd as bootable -- the iso image is already correctly setup
[01:54] <linuxgeek2> by the wat
[01:54] <ompaul> ProN00b, unless you got some pretty strange hardware :)
[01:55] <SockerFot> linuxgeek2 im trying to boot Ubuntu live cause i want to look at ubuntu
[01:55] <cbear> how do i change the permissions of a folder?
[01:55] <SockerFot> HappyFool i burned it as a normal cd at first but then it didnt work
[01:55] <ProN00b> i didn't say you have to, and in the linux world everything Can do everything elses job... im just saying that you are getting great support for debian server tasks online...
[01:55] <sdakota> HappyFool: ProN00b told me that Ubuntu is like the desktop version of Debian - I'd like to give Debian a shot too, maybe it's something
[01:55] <linuxgeek2> then insert the cd and make sure the boot priority is set to cd rom
[01:55] <SockerFot> but when i burned it as a bootable CD, it automatically went in to something called DR-DOS
[01:56] <SockerFot> linuxgeek2 it is
[01:56] <linuxgeek2> U will ge the ubuntu screen when it boots
[01:56] <SockerFot> but when i do this, it starts in DR-DOS
[01:56] <linuxgeek2> huh?
[01:56] <linuxgeek2> Trying burning the cd again
[01:56] <SockerFot> yeah
[01:56] <linuxgeek2> did u download the iso images
[01:56] <SockerFot> when i booted the Ubuntu live-cd in ISO and inserted it in the drive and rebooted, it started up in DR-DOS
[01:56] <SockerFot> really weird
[01:57] <SockerFot> it looked exactly like DOS
[01:57] <hydroksyde> DR-DOS = Digital River DOS
[01:57] <SockerFot> and whats that supposed to mean+
[01:57] <cbear> how do i change the permissions of a folder?
[01:57] <linuxgeek2> cbear, permissions
[01:57] <linuxgeek2> chmod
[01:58] <cbear> i know chmod but what are the arguments i need?
[01:58] <linuxgeek2> depends on what permission u need
[01:58] <hydroksyde> SockerFot: it's another version of DOS. Maybe the Ubuntu LiveCD uses DR-DOS to run syslinux... But I douby it
[01:58] <linuxgeek2> 4 - read
[01:58] <HappyFool> sdakota: go for it
[01:58] <linuxgeek2> 2 - write and 1 execute
[01:58] <hydroksyde> this seems very odd
[01:58] <linuxgeek2> yup
[01:58] <_JensBru> what i need to perform to get my wireless connection working?
[01:59] <HappyFool> SockerFot: what app are you using to burn the CD ?
[01:59] <Astxist> anyone know the best way to get a copy of the orginal source.list that installs with breezy?
[01:59] <ironi_> HELP: I try to isnatll ubuntu, but I cant get past the disk paritioner, it just keeps re-showing when i try to select "Finish changes"
[01:59] <SockerFot> hydroksyde when it first booted, it was like lots of text messages just passing by on the screen i didnt read them and then it was like. i had to enter this command you know. it just said A:\ and this blinking little thing and over it it said "Options MLX bla bla bla" etcetera
[01:59] <SockerFot> HappyFool Nero burning rom
[01:59] <Necrosan> anyone know how to install .ttf files system wide? thanks in advance
[01:59] <linuxgeek2> yup
[02:00] <linuxgeek2> !fonts
[02:00] <ubotu> hmm... fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[02:00] <firefoxx> hi all
[02:00] <HappyFool> SockerFot: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch01.html#id2473365
[02:00] <linuxgeek2> Necrosan, take the above link
[02:01] <SockerFot> HappyFool yeah, done that?
[02:01] <HappyFool> SockerFot: ok, what happened when you tried that CD? can you detail 'didn't work' a bit?
[02:01] <hydroksyde> I don't see any dos on my shipit ubuntu 5.04 Live CD
[02:01] <hydroksyde> SockerFot: Are you sure you don't have another CD in another drive? A floppy?
[02:01] <SockerFot> it said something about "hardwareprofiles" and so on... it said i could choose wich hardware profile i wanted but there was only one there
[02:02] <SockerFot> hydroksyde only got one drive, a cd/dvd-drive
[02:02] <phiqtion> k
[02:02] <hydroksyde> What was the URL of the image you downloaded?
[02:02] <phiqtion> sup guys
[02:02] <mifritscher> does it boot from HDD?
[02:02] <SockerFot> hydroksyde dont remember, it was some time ago
[02:02] <hydroksyde> ok
[02:02] <SockerFot> two weeks ago or something
[02:02] <SockerFot> mifritscher nope
[02:02] <SockerFot> well
[02:03] <SockerFot> ill try once more
[02:03] <SockerFot> or i will be back
[02:03] <HappyFool> SockerFot: do you have that first CD?
[02:03] <HappyFool> SockerFot: hang on
[02:03] <firefoxx> does any1 know how to get the canon pixma ip1500 driver on to the drivers list?
[02:03] <HappyFool> SockerFot: if you view the first CD in windows, what do you see in the root directory of the CD?
[02:03] <SockerFot> wait
[02:03] <SockerFot> im gonna input it
[02:03] <HappyFool> don't paste here
[02:04] <SockerFot> root directory
[02:04] <SockerFot> whats that supposed to mean
[02:04] <HappyFool> top-level directory
[02:04] <SockerFot> ?
[02:04] <SockerFot> if i view it
[02:04] <HappyFool> as in 'd:\' or something similar
[02:04] <SockerFot> its just a ISO-file
[02:04] <SockerFot> E:\
[02:04] <SockerFot> =
[02:04] <SockerFot> ?
[02:04] <HappyFool> yeah
[02:04] <HappyFool> e: is your cd-rom ?
[02:04] <SockerFot> mhm
[02:04] <HappyFool> what files are on e: ?
[02:04] <SockerFot> an iso file
[02:05] <ompaul> then there must be a d:
[02:05] <SockerFot> ubuntu live
[02:05] <SockerFot> there is a D, and thats my second hard drive
[02:05] <hydroksyde> SockerFot:: Did you burn the iso file as a file???
[02:05] <HappyFool> SockerFot: then read this more carefully: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch01.html#id2473365
[02:05] <hydroksyde> like you would with any normal file
[02:05] <SockerFot> hydroksyde at first, yes
[02:05] <HappyFool> SockerFot: you need to burn it as an image, but don't bother about making it bootable -- it already is
[02:05] <SockerFot> hydroksyde then i burned the iso file as a file, but as a bootable CD
[02:05] <SockerFot> yeah
[02:05] <SockerFot> exactly
[02:05] <SockerFot> thats what i did next
[02:06] <SockerFot> i burned it as a image bootable cd
[02:06] <SockerFot> and thats when DR-dose came upp
[02:06] <hydroksyde> hmmm...
[02:07] <SockerFot> if i look at the imagebootableburnedcd in windows, there is also only one ISO-file
[02:07] <hydroksyde> Errr...
[02:07] <hydroksyde> the ISO shouldn't contain an ISO
[02:07] <SockerFot> should i mount it in daemon tools and burn as a copy?
[02:07] <HappyFool> *sigh* please follow the instructions on help.ubuntu.com exactly. In the root of the cd-rom ('E:\') you should see two files: 'md5sum.txt' and 'README.diskdefines'
[02:07] <HappyFool> there should also be a number of directories ('dists', 'doc', 'install' ...)
[02:08] <SockerFot> but
[02:08] <SockerFot> the help on the page says i should only burn it as a data CD
[02:08] <SockerFot> and thats exactly what i did the first time
[02:08] <SockerFot> so what the fuck man
[02:09] <holycow> SockerFot, don't sweat it too much, most of us dishing out help get worn out by the same questions over and over :)
[02:09] <holycow> it's human nature
[02:09] <LeeJunFan> SockerFot: burn the image, or iso. If you burn as a data disc it will burn the files you select to a data type disc, which would be the file.iso.
[02:09] <hydroksyde> SockerFot: Which program are you using to burn?
[02:09] <SockerFot> Nero
[02:10] <SockerFot> Nero StartSmart
[02:10] <SockerFot> it was
[02:10] <hydroksyde> hmmm... Do you have Nero Burning Rom?
[02:10] <LeeJunFan> SockerFot: if you mount in daemontools and burn it likely won't get the boot image.
[02:10] <SockerFot> euh
[02:10] <holycow> SockerFot, you haveto burn iso image usingnero
[02:10] <SockerFot> what the fuck
[02:10] <holycow> you burned a data disc, if that is what the info said,then its wrong
[02:10] <SockerFot> im comfused :S
[02:10] <holycow> SockerFot, its okay mate :)
[02:10] <SockerFot> confused... or how is it spelled?
[02:10] <holycow> open up nero, the main app
[02:10] <hydroksyde> there will be some kind of option to burn an image
[02:11] <SockerFot> yes
[02:11] <deFrysk> SockerFot, you have to burn an iso , not copy an iso
[02:11] <SockerFot> ARGH
[02:11] <SockerFot> okay
[02:11] <holycow> SockerFot, at the top of nero there should be a 'burn iso image'
[02:11] <SockerFot> listen carfully now
[02:11] <holycow> use that
[02:11] <SockerFot> listen
[02:11] <SockerFot> okay
[02:11] <afd_> hi! I'd like to install the kernel source, but I don't see them in synaptic (for the kernel version I have now). I've reload the lists, still no luck. Any ideas?
[02:12] <hydroksyde> afd_: kernel.org
[02:12] <holycow> afd_, search for kernel source with apt-cache search kernel source .. or kernel-source
[02:12] <holycow> its there
[02:12] <LeeJunFan> yeah, don't worry about it, it's a journey. No one is born knowing how to do it all, those that know it all == they made all these same mistakes before ;)
[02:12] <deFrysk> afd_, its linux-source
[02:12] <holycow> doh!
[02:12] <SockerFot> At first, i just chose "Burn Data-cd" in Nero and selected the ISO-file. Then i burned it and rebooted and when i rebooted it came up a window wich said like "Choose hardwareprofile" but there was only one profile, so i got into windows again. Then i burned it as a Burn image bootable CD, and when i rebooted with that cd in, i went into DR-DOS
[02:12] <holycow> you guys changed it, damnit!
[02:12] <holycow> you gotta leave it like in debian folks!
[02:12] <holycow> jeebus
[02:12] <ahoora> hi all ... i am using linux .. and Anjuta for writing my C++ code but i dont know how can i execute my project ... i want to do something similar to g++ main.cpp 001.cpp
[02:12] <odat> anyone familiar with fstab?
[02:13] <holycow> SockerFot, no, thats wrong
[02:13] <afd_> Linux ubuntu 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Fri Nov 18 11:51:02 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux           kernel-tree-2.6.11 - Linux kernel source tree for building Debian kernel images
[02:13] <holycow> NOT DATA CD
[02:13] <hydroksyde> SockerFot: Maybe you shouldn't select bootable CD
[02:13] <holycow> burn image
[02:13] <SockerFot> holycow read the whole text...
[02:13] <SockerFot> holycow "Then i burned it as a Burn image bootable CD,"
[02:13] <afd_> deFrysk, thanks, I think I found it
[02:14] <odat> i am trying to get my slave drive to mount
[02:14] <holycow> are you sure? maybe they change their ui again.  it used to be in the pulldown menu at the top.  sorry.
[02:14] <LeeJunFan> SockerFot: http://www.wizardskeep.org/mainhall/tutor/neroiso.html
[02:14] <marioubuntu> hy
[02:14] <deFrysk> SockerFot, example here http://www6.tomshardware.com/howto/20040329/win_linux-01.html
[02:14] <hydroksyde> SockerFot: The ISO should have it's own boot code in it, maybe your CD burning program is adding it's own copy of DR-DOS
[02:14] <cbear> i how do i remove a user account?
[02:15] <holycow> system /admin / users and groups cbear
[02:15] <deFrysk> cbear, system>administation>useraccounts
[02:15] <SockerFot> ok
[02:15] <SockerFot> im rebooting again
[02:15] <SockerFot> brb
[02:15] <holycow> why is he rebooting?
[02:15] <deFrysk> holycow, noone knows
[02:15] <cbear> it doesn't open
[02:16] <DRAGON_Ultra> been on windows to long
[02:16] <hydroksyde> Maybe he thinks he's burned his liveCD
[02:16] <holycow> rofl
[02:16] <deFrysk> must be a m$ thing ;p
[02:16] <cbear> user accounts will not open
[02:16] <deFrysk> cbear, added any weird packages ?
[02:16] <holycow> cbear, that means your user account doesn't have root priviledges
[02:17] <hydroksyde> cbear: Try "sudo userdel -r joebloggs"
[02:17] <holycow> can you open up say synaptic?
[02:17] <cbear> i've added vlc, and ethereal, thats about all i can think of
[02:18] <deFrysk> cbear, try sudo users-admin
[02:20] <rohan> i hope it is not a silly question .. but i am confused. what should i choose ? ubuntu or debian ? and why ? :(
[02:20] <kbrooks> rohan, confused by what?
[02:20] <cbear> 1st time i run it it says starting and then asks for a password, i enter it and then it disappears
[02:20] <hydroksyde> rohan: Depends
[02:20] <holycow> rohan, well it's a hard choice
[02:20] <hydroksyde> have you ever used linux before?
[02:20] <rohan> kbrooks: what ? ubutnu or debian ?
[02:20] <kbrooks> rohan, ubuntu if you want a good desktop
[02:20] <odat> can anyone help me mount a slave drive?
[02:20] <holycow> for me, ubuntu has the latest packages, support and i don't haveto config anything
[02:20] <cbear> 2nd time i run it, it says opening.. and then disappears without showing a password dialog
[02:21] <rohan> holycow: why ?
[02:21] <rohan> hydroksyde: depends on what ?
[02:21] <kbrooks> holycow, same here
[02:21] <hydroksyde> rohan: Have you ever used linux before?
[02:21] <cbear> sudo users-admin does nothing
[02:21] <holycow> with debian, i have more supported packages, more stability and longer release cycles (which is good for som workloads), but i haveto config everything from scratch
[02:21] <deFrysk> cbear, try sudo -s
[02:21] <holycow> with debian you can make ANYTHING
[02:21] <deFrysk> cbear, then users-admin
[02:21] <kbrooks> holycow, define anything
[02:21] <holycow> with ubuntu, you basically have a prepackaged and preconfigged debian for the desktop
[02:22] <kbrooks> holycow, debian is not a meta distribution
[02:22] <holycow> kbrooks, anything you can do in any linux is easily done on debian
[02:22] <holycow> kbrooks, oh but it is
[02:22] <hydroksyde> rohan: If you're new to linux, go with ubuntu...
[02:22] <kbrooks> oh?
[02:22] <Stork> how can i look at other partitions on linux?
[02:22] <rohan> hydroksyde: yes. i am pretty well acquanted wit hit.
[02:22] <rohan> *with it
[02:22] <holycow> kbrooks, by metadistribution i mean == you do all the configuration for a particular workload
[02:22] <hydroksyde> ok
[02:22] <hydroksyde> rohan: well what do you want to use it for?
[02:22] <BusMaster> rohan, if you want a good integrated desktop, go for ubuntu..if you are a power hungry, demented freak you should try debian
[02:22] <holycow> there is no such thing in debian as click 'desktop' and you have something as modern and nice as ubuntu
[02:23] <rohan> hydroksyde: a normal desktop system. day to day email, surfing, music..
[02:23] <kbrooks> BusMaster, don't critize debian like that
[02:23] <holycow> as an example relative to my definition of metadistro
[02:23] <hydroksyde> rohan: Go with ubuntu then
[02:23] <rohan> BusMaster: lol, you really dont put up a strong case for the latter.
[02:23] <holycow> BusMaster, thats not a very good description
[02:23] <BusMaster> kbrooks, criticize?! I'm praising it ;-) I use debian all the time
[02:23] <BusMaster> jeepres guys...i guess I did not paint a nice picture. sorry
[02:23] <kbrooks> BusMaster, "power hungry"
[02:23] <kbrooks> > power user
[02:23] <holycow> right
[02:24] <cbear> ubuntu comes with alot of stuff ready to use, debian you'll have to configure alot of stuff yourself
[02:24] <kbrooks> s/demented//
[02:24] <BusMaster> kbrooks, spot on
[02:24] <rohan> cbear: oh, ok.
[02:24] <rohan> and if ubuntu ... kubuntu or ubuntu ? :(
[02:24] <paines> hi
[02:24] <holycow> rohan, look at it from the other perspective
[02:24] <BusMaster> kbrooks, s/demented/mand-scientist type :)
[02:24] <holycow> if you don't like ubuntu, your fucked, just try untangling the spaghetti
[02:24] <kbrooks> rohan, kubuntu is ubuntu w/ kde, aka kubuntu-desktop
[02:25] <theD3viL> rohan, ubuntu .. couse works faster :)
[02:25] <BusMaster> rohan, kubuntu/ubuntu...no difference..just choose the wm of your choice and go with the distro...
[02:25] <hydroksyde> rohan: gnome (ubuntu) is easier to use, KDE (kubuntu) is more powerful
[02:25] <rohan> kbrooks: hmm.. i know that.
[02:25] <cbear> for instance, wifi, ubuntu detected it at startup (on my desktop pci card anyway)
[02:25] <paines> i have a strange problem with an commercial app. codeforge, it is a ide. copy and paste doesn't work at all. anyone here who uses codeforge also ?
[02:25] <holycow> with debian you can make your system EXACTLY as you want it (more or less, i know gentoo folks might balk at that)
[02:25] <odat> can anyone help me mount a slave drive?
[02:25] <BusMaster> theD3viL, hey, thats not true :P
[02:25] <rohan> holycow: lol..
[02:25] <kbrooks> lol
[02:25] <holycow> rohan, its always easier to 'build up' than 'tear down in a sane way'
[02:25] <hydroksyde> odat: perhaps
[02:25] <kbrooks> tear down in a sane way? sorry?
[02:25] <holycow> rohan, with ubuntu you also get the stupid weird ass stuff like in latest breezy release
[02:26] <hydroksyde> odat: is it an IDE drive?
[02:26] <theD3viL> BusMaster, eh..kde sux :P
[02:26] <holycow> here are some samples of bad quality control:
[02:26] <cbear> when i try to do userdel when i'm not root it says "command not found"
[02:26] <odat> hydroksyde, yes
[02:26] <rohan> holycow: like ?
[02:26] <hydroksyde> odat: which IDE channel?
[02:26] <kbrooks> holycow, there is no "latest breezy release" -- there is a "latest stable release"
[02:26] <holycow> 1. dist-upgrade was stopped flat by open office ... and you couldn't uninstall open office with apt, you had to use aptitutde
[02:26] <odat> hydroksyde, ide channel?
[02:26] <rohan> holycow: i mean, in latest breezy, i _hate_ the fact that useless stuff like bluetooth is installed :P
[02:26] <kbrooks> and a "latest development release"
[02:26] <holycow> kbrooks, i would hardly call breezy stable
[02:26] <BusMaster> theD3viL, for the sake of not starting a flame war, I'm gonna keep quiet...but your statement raises dark questions about your evolution and genetic descent ;-) (joking...)
[02:26] <holycow> 2. floppy wouldn't mount, you haveto install pmount from the next release to fix it
[02:27] <xav_> that seems really stupid to have one different distrib for each dm
[02:27] <hydroksyde> odat: there are usually 2 IDE connectors on each motherboard
[02:27] <holycow> 3. usb automount doesn't work for everyone, no one knows why
[02:27] <odat> hydroksyde, ide1
[02:27] <kbrooks> xav_, here is a question for you
[02:27] <holycow> there are a bunch more that i ran into
[02:27] <theD3viL> BusMaster, eh..i was lovn it..but now...after screens of kde 4.0 and 3.5 ..... SUX :) sry...not wanna flamewar :)
[02:27] <skulrid> ppl how do I change do I change directory in terminal?
[02:27] <hydroksyde> odat: so the first one? or is that ide0?\
[02:27] <holycow> rohan, imagine if i had 200 desktops dist upgading in a company? i wouldn't have a job right now
[02:27] <holycow> :)
[02:27] <holycow> of course one would test before deploy, but, you get the picture
[02:28] <rohan> holycow: hmm.. i dont get your point ? you are referring to what ?
[02:28] <theD3viL> skulrid, cd /home/user/...
[02:28] <kbrooks> xav_, download space -- would you like having to download a HUGE amount of ... stuff
[02:28] <BusMaster> theD3viL, well, gnome is good to, but >>nothing<< beats konqueror as a file manager
[02:28] <hydroksyde> odat: If it's the first channel, the device would be called /dev/hdb
[02:28] <skulrid> thnks
[02:28] <rohan> yes..
[02:28] <hydroksyde> odat: is it just the one partition on the drive?
[02:28] <kbrooks> BusMaster, WTrue
[02:28] <rohan> the konqi file manager is _superb_
[02:28] <kbrooks> rohan, incredible, yes
[02:28] <theD3viL> BusMaster, not for me :) ... btw...how to remove all unistalled programs depencies ??
[02:28] <kbrooks> but i use ubuntu
[02:28] <BusMaster> rohan, where are you physically located?
[02:28] <rohan> BusMaster: india. why ?
[02:28] <holycow> rohan, the point is you cannot really release a distro as 'stable' when you can't mount floppies, usb automount doesn't work always, dist-upgrade is stopped flat by openoffice
[02:28] <holycow> like half way
[02:28] <holycow> those are huge show stoppers
[02:29] <BusMaster> rohan, thought so. I'm fron india too :)
[02:29] <kbrooks> holycow, doesnt matter
[02:29] <rohan> holycow: those show stoppers exist in debian ? or in ubuntu ?
[02:29] <kbrooks> a distribution is stable when its stable
[02:29] <BusMaster> theD3viL, uninstalled programs dependencies??
[02:29] <rohan> BusMaster: hi :) where ? i am in mumbai.
[02:29] <kbrooks> end of story
[02:29] <SockerFot> Well fellows?
[02:29] <BusMaster> rohan, nashik
[02:29] <SockerFot> what can i say
[02:29] <holycow> rohan, i;ve never seen anything like that in a stable debian release
[02:29] <rohan> BusMaster: wow, we are close !
[02:29] <SockerFot> this is beautiful!
[02:29] <BusMaster> rohan, :)
[02:29] <rohan> holycow: oh, ok..
[02:29] <holycow> kbrooks, lol, no sorry
[02:29] <SockerFot> im partitionating as soon as im coming back to windows
[02:29] <SockerFot> :D
[02:29] <BusMaster> rohan, private chat?
[02:29] <rohan> BusMaster: join #ubuntu-india
[02:29] <odat> hydroksyde, its hdb1
[02:29] <theD3viL> BusMaster, yes...if i installed program..then remove it... depencies stay at my computer :(
[02:29] <SockerFot> bye
[02:30] <theD3viL> BusMaster, like tuxracer-data.
[02:30] <holycow> rohan, ubuntu is great don't get me wrong, but they really really work fast, i think 6 month release cycles are a bit too fast if you ask me.  thats just a personal opinion
[02:30] <hydroksyde> odat: ok then... If to just want to mount it once, run "sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt"
[02:30] <fantabulous> who wouldn't want tuxracer-data sitting on their hard drive, though?
[02:30] <hydroksyde> odat: What kind of partition is it?
[02:30] <BusMaster> theD3viL, wow! that should not happen...well, the dirty way would be to apt-cache show program_name and check the deps and remove them manually. but this is strange..it _should not_ happen
[02:30] <kbrooks> holycow, too fast*
[02:30] <rohan> holycow: hmm.. i am currently using arch linux, which is rolling release, so i always have the latest and greatest.. i love that ..
[02:30] <mommer> I get an "operation not permited" when doing modprobe ndiswrapper. Any ideas?
[02:30] <rohan> BusMaster: i am waiting. #ubuntu-india
[02:30] <skulrid> theD3vil do I have to rigth "home" ?
[02:31] <kbrooks> BusMaster, its by design'
[02:31] <holycow> kbrooks, indeed, way too fast, ubuntu needs a lot more q & a
[02:31] <BusMaster> kbrooks, explain
[02:31] <theD3viL> skulrid, what ?
[02:31] <kbrooks> holycow, 9 months is a bit too ... overkill
[02:31] <kbrooks> 12 months too
[02:31] <holycow> rohan, *nod* with ubuntu you will probably get the same experience, it really is a great distro
[02:32] <kbrooks> maybe 8 months
[02:32] <skulrid> user I type my username, but in "home" dont know waht to put there
[02:32] <holycow> just giving you some data to work with
[02:32] <cbear> i can't delete users! this is killing me
[02:32] <holycow> kbrooks, well i'm hard pressed to really say, yeah maybe 8 months would be good
[02:32] <SockerFot> okay
[02:32] <SockerFot> that was nice
[02:32] <rohan> holycow: i wont. once a ubuntu / debian release goes stable, it gets outdated _really_ fast
[02:32] <SockerFot> and now
[02:32] <SockerFot> what file system should i boot it in?
[02:32] <holycow> kbrooks, if they froze it at 6 months and did 2 solid months of just q & a
[02:32] <SirKillalot> hi, how can I make an archive of the folder /x/ with tar -cvvf and ignore the directory /x/y ?
[02:32] <holycow> rohan, lol no
[02:32] <odat> hydroksyde, ext3 and i would like it to mount everytime i boot up
[02:32] <theD3viL> rohan, you can use debian sid
[02:32] <kbrooks> rohan, it has sec updates
[02:33] <hydroksyde> ok, you need to edit your /etc/fstab file
[02:33] <kbrooks> theD3viL, DONT TELL HIM TO
[02:33] <skulrid> theD3vil in "user" I type my username, but in "home" dont know waht to put there
[02:33] <holycow> rohan, i don't think you have the expertice to really use your software well enough to be able to tell the dif between packages 6 months appart or less
[02:33] <holycow> no offense
[02:33] <rohan> holycow: sure. see the version of k3b for instance. i am not considering backports.
[02:33] <theD3viL> kbrooks, :)
[02:33] <rohan> kbrooks: yep.. no app upgrades.. which sux for a desktop pc.
[02:33] <kbrooks> rohan, FROZEN! hint hint
[02:33] <rohan> theD3viL: hmm.. no .. for me, i like testing.
[02:33] <rohan> kbrooks: yep.. frozen sux
[02:33] <hydroksyde> odat: you might want to create a mount point for it... Just make a directory somewhere
[02:33] <holycow> rohan, k3b? what could you possibly need in that thats not already in there?
[02:33] <kbrooks> rohan: there ARE security updates in ubuntu
[02:33] <theD3viL> skulrid, just hit enter
[02:34] <holycow> what are you like a linux warez kid or something? :)
[02:34] <holycow> j/k!!!!
[02:34] <theD3viL> rohan, then etch
[02:34] <skulrid> ?!
[02:34] <phiz__> SirKillalot: --exclude
[02:34] <rohan> kbrooks: yes. but not application upgrades.
[02:34] <rohan> :(
[02:34] <kbrooks> rohan, there cant be any
[02:34] <SirKillalot> phiz__, tar -cvvf foo.tar /foo/ --exclude=/foo/bar/?
[02:34] <rohan> holycow: multisession writing.
[02:34] <odat> hydroksyde, the current mount point is /home
[02:34] <mommer> why would I get an operation not permited for inserting a module (as root)
[02:34] <holycow> rohan, dude, please understand how development works.  you haveto freeze at some point
[02:34] <kbrooks> rohan, they don't want to break the repos
[02:34] <rohan> kbrooks: how come fedora can provide updates to "stable" released distro.
[02:35] <holycow> there is no such thing as a rolling deployment, that is called perpetual beta
[02:35] <holycow> and perpetual fixing
[02:35] <rohan> holycow: hmm.. ya.
[02:35] <skulrid> theD3vil i want to go to desktop directory so I type cd /"dunno?"/skulrid/desktop
[02:35] <thierry_> how do I install a .deb package with the command line (or without if it is possible)
[02:35] <holycow> in which case arch is perfect for ya ...
[02:35] <_jason> !deb
[02:35] <ubotu> methinks deb is To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[02:35] <rohan> holycow: lol, so with arch i am on perpetual beta ? :)
[02:35] <hydroksyde> odat: add "/dev/hdb1        /home      ext3        defaults         1   0" to your /etc/fstab
[02:35] <rem_> dpkg -i *.deb
[02:35] <holycow> ... freezing provides a window of stability ... if that is not what you want, then sure it sucks.  but then you are really saying stability sucks
[02:35] <kbrooks> holycow, i hate rolling development, but still ...
[02:35] <holycow> in which case :) why consider ubuntu at all? go gentoo that TRULLY is rolling dev
[02:36] <kbrooks> holycow, oh please
[02:36] <holycow> kbrooks, me too, you can't do shit with that
[02:36] <kbrooks> holycow, pm me
[02:36] <fantabulous> don't forget to use ~arch.
[02:36] <odat> hydroksyde, i know i have to do something with fstab but that is where i get confused cuz i don't know anything about it
[02:36] <kbrooks> odat, well
[02:36] <kbrooks> !fstab
[02:36] <ubotu> the /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the winmac_fstab file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab  See <partitions>.
[02:36] <rohan> fantabulous: lol, thats in gentoo.
[02:36] <theD3viL> skulrid, cd /home/skulrid/Desktop
[02:36] <kbrooks> !partitions
[02:36] <ubotu> Go to System -> Administration -> Disks and enter your password. Pick the disk your partition is on from the list, then click the 'Partitions' tab. Select the partition you want to mount, set an access path (mount point) and click 'Enable'.
[02:36] <cbear> when i do userdel it tells me command not found
[02:36] <skulrid> thanks
[02:36] <cbear> any ideas people?
[02:37] <holycow> heh
[02:37] <kbrooks> cbear, PATH'
[02:37] <kbrooks> use sudo
[02:37] <rohan> kbrooks, holycow : what i have is classic case of version number mania. and now i dont know how to rid myself of it.
[02:37] <kbrooks> it'll be found then.
[02:37] <jack_> Hello! I'm new to Ubuntu. Installed 5.10. Where can I find a doc on removing totem and installing mplayer instead?
[02:37] <holycow> rohan, in what?
[02:37] <kbrooks> rohan, h/o
[02:37] <holycow> ubuntu?
[02:37] <kbrooks> holycow, pm me
[02:37] <holycow> explain
[02:37] <cbear> when i use sudo it seems to work but the users folder is still there
[02:37] <theD3viL> jack_, you cant remove totem
[02:37] <theD3viL> jack_, but you can install mplyer
[02:37] <holycow> kbrooks, why? say it in here it's fine, i have my asbestos shorts on :)
[02:37] <rohan> holycow: no, i am talking in general.
[02:37] <kbrooks> theD3viL, dont tell him shit
[02:38] <rohan> kbrooks: h/o ? whats that ?
[02:38] <hydroksyde> odat: the format is "devicenode     mountpoint     type       options"
[02:38] <SirKillalot> can I burn on windows using VMware?
[02:38] <soundray> I'm fed up with Firefox crashing on my AMD64 box. Can someone help?
[02:38] <fantabulous> you -can- remove totem. IIRC, gnome goes with it, though.
[02:38] <johnsie2k> how do I chnage the screen refresh rate
[02:38] <johnsie2k> ?
[02:38] <theD3viL> kbrooks, wont
[02:38] <kbrooks> fantabulous, not gnome
[02:38] <jack_> theD3viL, I installed mplayer and mplauer-plugin. but it still icks totem plugin for media files.
[02:38] <holycow> soundray, compile it for 64 bit from scratch?
[02:38] <kbrooks> ubuntu-desktop
[02:38] <holycow> is there even a 64 bit version available?
[02:38] <VooDoo> SirKillalot: which version you ising?
[02:38] <kbrooks> thats a meta package
[02:38] <cbear> when i use sudo it seems to work but the users folder is still there
[02:38] <_jason> ubotu, tell jack- about replacetotem
[02:38] <holycow> soundray, sorry forgot to ask, what version?
[02:38] <soundray> holycow, should I stick with 1.0.7?
[02:38] <kbrooks> its deps wont be removed tho
[02:38] <SirKillalot> VooDoo, the newest vmware 5 and windows XP
[02:38] <theD3viL> jack_, rm /lib/usr/mozilla-firefox/totem.so ... something like thaht
[02:38] <odat> hydroksyde, right now my second drive looks like this "/dev/hdb1  /home           ext3         defaults                    0  2"
[02:38] <soundray> holycow, there you go :)
[02:38] <johnsie2k> how do I chnage the screen refresh rate
[02:39] <fantabulous> kbrooks: doesn't that include parts of gnome?
[02:39] <jack_> theD3viL, ahh ohw yes offcource..
[02:39] <kbrooks> so when you remove ubuntu-desktop u arent affecting gnome
[02:39] <hydroksyde> odat: That looks correct
[02:39] <kbrooks> fantabulous, ^^^^^
[02:39] <hydroksyde> odat: type "sudo mount /home" and it should get mounted
[02:39] <fantabulous> ok. thanks.
[02:39] <jack-> wtf
[02:39] <johnsie2k> how do I chnage the screen refresh rate?
[02:39] <odat> hydroksyde, how do i get it to mount automatically everytime i boot
[02:39] <holycow> :) soundray i would untill official package is released which wont be until dapper
[02:39] <VooDoo> SirKillalot: im using linux as the host, xp prof in a vmware virtual machine and its works ok for me!
[02:39] <holycow> hang in there maybe? :)
[02:39] <_jason> jack-, ?
[02:40] <soundray> holycow, do you mean apt-get source firefox, or get the 1.0.7 package from mozilla.org?
[02:40] <jack-> never make ubotu msg me shit if there's some other jack ok ;)
[02:40] <SirKillalot> VooDoo, thanks
[02:40] <VooDoo> no worries
[02:40] <jack_> _jason, ? sorry dude.. I dunno..
[02:40] <dylan> are there any alternatives to gtk-gnutella?
[02:40] <hydroksyde> odat: it should do that automatically, unless you have the noauto option, which you don't
[02:40] <jack_> hehe
[02:40] <kbrooks> fantabulous, ubuntu-desktop is a meta package that relies on packages that wont be removed when you remove ubuntu-desktop
[02:40] <_jason> jack-, lol your names are so similar, I didn't notice... my apologies
[02:40] <jack_> _jason, must pressed wrong key.. ;)
[02:40] <Howitzer> Is it possible to make the command 'open' in BASH, and that it loads the selected file with the fitting program?
[02:40] <holycow> *cough* soundray my lips are flapping a bit fast today ... :)  are you running 64 bit ubuntu?
[02:40] <jack-> kk ;)
[02:41] <odat> hydroksyde, well i have no idea where to find the icon for the second hard drive
[02:41] <_jason> ubotu tell jack_ about replacetotem
[02:41] <soundray> holycow, yes.
[02:41] <kbrooks> fantabulous, its not a good idea for apt to remove deps of packages *automatically*
[02:41] <hydroksyde> odat: If it's mounted on /home, an icon shouldn't appear
[02:41] <holycow> in that case ... just install the mozilla-firefox package via apt-get and wait for dapper
[02:41] <kbrooks> fantabulous, YOU can do that --
[02:41] <holycow> unless you have time to get the source from mozilla.org and compile it your self
[02:41] <kbrooks> use apt-cache
[02:41] <hydroksyde> odat: Instead, you should have all of the home directories within that drive
[02:41] <_jason> okay xchat name completion is starting to bug me, why does it compelte jack as jack- if it could also be jack_ ?
[02:42] <kbrooks> _jason, good question
[02:42] <hypn0> will firefox1.5 be availabe for breezy soon
[02:42] <fantabulous> kbrooks: I guess not. I vaguely remember something like that happening with some package. I could be remembering incorrectly, though.
[02:42] <holycow> no
[02:42] <kbrooks> hypn0, /topic
[02:42] <jack_> haha
[02:42] <holycow> it will be in dapper
[02:42] <Howitzer> example: i type 'open xxxxx.txt' it checks for the .txt extension in a list and finds the corresponding command is 'gedit', it then replaces the input for 'open' to 'gedit'
[02:42] <hypn0> oh :-)
[02:42] <soundray> holycow, the current Firefox package from breezy is the one I'm complaining about :(
[02:42] <fantabulous> likely I am remembering incorrectly.
[02:42] <odat> hydroksyde, so both drive are used as one?
[02:42] <hydroksyde> odat: yes
[02:42] <cbear> i can't delete users! it acts like it works but the folders are still there!
[02:43] <hydroksyde> kind of
[02:43] <kbrooks> cbear, remove them yourself
[02:43] <_jason> anyone using the xchat 2.6 backport know if it fixes the name completion problem and is stable?
[02:43] <odat> hydroksyde, so if i fill up the master drive it will continue to the slave drive?
[02:43] <hydroksyde> odat: no it wont
[02:43] <kbrooks> _jason, there is no "name completion problem"
[02:43] <holycow> soundray, oh really? sorry i didn't realize, as i said my lips are flapping too fast today.... *hmmm* i don't think you have much choice besides the following: a) remove all plugins and extensions and test b) google the issue as ive not heard of this (i do run 32 bit ubuntu on 64 bit cpus tho and so far so good)  c) recompile it your self and see
[02:44] <odat> hydroksyde, ok in otherwords if i want to put certain file on my slave drive  how do i access the slave drive
[02:44] <_jason> kbrooks, jack should not be completed to jack- if it could also be jack_ imo, can you explain the reasoning for that?
[02:44] <holycow> soundray, the problem is hard to debug over irc unfortunately
[02:44] <kbrooks> _jason, - _
[02:44] <jack-> _jason, thats perfectly normal
[02:44] <hydroksyde> odat: Put a file in /home
[02:44] <jack-> just press tab 2 times
[02:44] <jack-> it will cycle
[02:44] <soundray> holycow, I know. I appreciate your advice.
[02:44] <Howitzer> ?
[02:44] <kbrooks> _jason, open up python and type ord('_'), ord('-')
[02:44] <hydroksyde> odat: User files should go in /home/whoever by default
[02:44] <_jason> jack-, ah I see thanks
[02:44] <soundray> holycow, I should have thought of removing extensions myself...
[02:45] <jack-> :)
[02:45] <dylan> kbrooks, is there an alternative to gtk-gnutella?
[02:45] <_jason> kbrooks, I understand, I didn't know you could cycle.  Makes sense now :D
[02:45] <redduck666> dylan, apollon?
[02:45] <holycow> soundray, *nod* a lot of people miss that actually, it sounds like a dumb thing to suggest but it is often overlooked
[02:45] <holycow> moz does really keel over if you have more than a few handfull of extensions
[02:45] <bubba> hey all - quick evolution question (breezy badger) - where do I define junk mail behaviour like one can with thunderbird?  Ie; I want to be able to tell evolution to place junk mail in ~this~ folder (vs. its own defaulted 'junk' folder)
[02:46] <Seveas> bubba, you can't
[02:47] <bubba> SEveas...   hmmmmm.  ;(  Yeah - I didn't see anything in there that was plain and concise - thus the question to the group.  I can live with it...  I would rather have it go elsewhere though.
[02:48] <redduck666> can anyone with the latest ubuntu installed paste the output of cat /etc/apt/sources.list on pastebin.com?
[02:48] <_jason> ubotu, tell redduck666 about easysource
[02:48] <crov> Hi, which universe remository to add, to have "sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla" this working_
[02:48] <_jason> !info flashplayer-mozilla
[02:48] <ubotu> flashplayer-mozilla: (Macromedia Flash Player), section multiverse/web, is optional. Version: 7.0.25-0.0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 956 kB, Installed size: 2136 kB
[02:48] <redduck666> _jason, cheers
[02:49] <_jason> crov, multiverse
[02:49] <BufordTJustice> how do I play mpegs and wmv files?
[02:49] <odat> hydroksyde, well looks like i don't have permission to write to that drive
[02:49] <dylan> redduck666, never heard of appollon
[02:49] <redduck666> dylan, it is apollon
[02:49] <hydroksyde> odat:hmmm... is your username odat?
[02:49] <redduck666> dylan, apollon.sf.net :P
[02:49] <uetashigeo> dragon
[02:50] <_jason> ubotu, tell BufordTJustice about multimedia
[02:50] <holycow> BufordTJustice, 1) install w32codecs (google it)  2) apt-get remove --purge totem-gstreamer 3) apt-get install totem-xine
[02:50] <odat> hydroksyde, no its eclecticpc
[02:50] <holycow> BufordTJustice, it should be able to play in totem then
[02:51] <hydroksyde> ok... "sudo chown -R eclecticpc /home/eclecticpc"
[02:51] <Reredeemed> why can't I upgrade to dapper?
[02:51] <johnsie2k> how do I chnage the screen refresh rate?
[02:51] <crov> _jason, URL: http://at.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu Distribution:breezy-backports Sections: main restricted universe multiverse  in this i cant find it
[02:51] <holycow> Reredeemed, because its not out yet
[02:51] <kbrooks> Reredeemed, who told you you cant?
[02:52] <Reredeemed> root@ubuntu:/home/kevin# apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:52] <Reredeemed> Reading package lists... Done
[02:52] <Reredeemed> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:52] <Reredeemed> Calculating upgrade... Done
[02:52] <Reredeemed> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[02:52] <Reredeemed> root@ubuntu:/home/kevin#
[02:52] <Reredeemed> others have apparently done it
[02:52] <hydroksyde> johnsie2k: System - preferences - screen resolution I think
[02:52] <theD3viL> When i wanna run gpareted..this happen!:
[02:52] <theD3viL> matej@ubuntu:~$ sudo gparted
[02:52] <theD3viL> Segmentation fault
[02:52] <_jason> redeeman, don't paste here
[02:52] <Reredeemed> and dapper is installable
[02:52] <_jason> !pastebin
[02:52] <Reredeemed> there are daily builds
[02:52] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[02:52] <holycow> Reredeemed, have you changed breezy to dapper in your /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[02:52] <johnsie2k> that ony has 60 as achoice
[02:52] <invisible_> how to set multiple sound channels?
[02:52] <invisible_> which file?
[02:52] <Reredeemed> holycow, no, how do I do that?
[02:52] <odat> hydroksyde, ok how do i undo that cuz that did nothing and now i have fewer options
[02:53] <redduck666> theD3viL, you from slovenia?
[02:53] <theD3viL> redduck666, hm..how do you know that?
[02:53] <hydroksyde> odat: What do you mean? What was the response?
[02:53] <holycow> in console do sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list edit the file replacing breezy with dapper, then close and save file (instructions on bottom)
[02:53] <kbrooks> http://kbrooks.ath.cx/blog/
[02:53] <redduck666> theD3viL, i'm a badass :P
[02:53] <_jason> crov, don't put "Distribution:"
[02:53] <holycow> then you need to do apt-get update, then you should be able to dist-upgrade
[02:54] <_jason> crov, if you genereate your sources with easysource, everything you choose should work
[02:54] <theD3viL> redduck666, what you are? :P
[02:54] <sunshine82> how do i edit a picture in ubuntu
[02:54] <redduck666> theD3viL, when you pasted a code from your consolve i've seen your username is matej
[02:54] <odat> well when i tried to make a link from the home directory it was greyed out which is wasn't before and when i tried to copy something to it   it gave me the do not have permission box again
[02:54] <redduck666> *sonsole
[02:54] <redduck666> *console
[02:54] <theD3viL> redduck666, lol :) ... from where you are...and what does badass mean?
[02:54] <syndicate> is it possible for ubuntu to pick up windows computer names, instead of using ip addresses?
[02:55] <soundray> holycow, you've put me on the right track. A plugin was at fault.
[02:55] <mahangu> syndicate, you mean hostnames?
[02:55] <sunshine82> i have a picture it 2304x1748 pixels i need to shink it so i can transfer it to my phone do i do this on ubuntu
[02:55] <soundray> holycow, thanks for your help.
[02:55] <holycow> soundray, no worries, one more tip
[02:55] <Reredeemed> holycow, how do I replace it with dapper
[02:55] <BufordTJustice> what is the best video player for ubuntu for wmv and mpeg files
[02:55] <Reredeemed> where do I get the list?
[02:55] <mahangu> sunshine82, use gimp
[02:55] <crov> _jason,  i just write that here, there is no "Distribution:" in field option, and i add this with Synaptic Package Manager in Breezy
[02:55] <redduck666> theD3viL, i'm from koper ()
[02:55] <redduck666> *8)
[02:55] <hydroksyde> odat: Your system has problems anyway, if users can't write to their own home directories. And there's no way to reverse a recursive ownership change
[02:55] <mahangu> BufordTJustice, there are many.. try mplayer with the w32codecs
[02:55] <theD3viL> redduck666, loooooool :D
[02:55] <BufordTJustice> ok thanks
[02:55] <mahangu> ubotu, tell BufordTJustice about w32codecs
[02:56] <redduck666> theD3viL, where yre you from?
[02:56] <_jason> crov, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:56] <Seveas> redduck666, theD3viL -> #ubuntu-offtopic please
[02:56] <encompass> I am trying to backup my ftp site to another location with gftp and it keeps crashing on me... I am connecting to a windows iis server... does anyone have a solution?
[02:56] <theD3viL> redduck666, iz domal :P
[02:56] <hydroksyde> odat: but your home directory and everything in it should be owned by you, anyway
[02:56] <holycow> soundray, occasionally an extension will want to install in a different place than your home dir... and will ask for your admin pass ... if you get a similar issue, also try to track down plugins/extensions in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox (i think?)
[02:56] <redduck666> damn ican't even type properly :(
[02:56] <redduck666> Seveas, yes master
[02:56] <odat> hydroksyde, well thanks for the reinstall have a feeling it was just bad advice
[02:56] <mahangu> encompass, what error message do you get?
[02:56] <Reredeemed> ok I have the file up
[02:56] <syndicate> mahangu, like the computer's windows name is 'kitchen' and its ip address is 192.160.0.10. ping kitchen and vncviewer kitchen does not work - you need to type in the ip addresses
[02:56] <redduck666> theD3viL, well it was nice to meet you, gotta go now
[02:56] <Reredeemed> what do I do, do I just replace the words breezy with dapper?
[02:56] <theD3viL> redduck666, bye
[02:57] <encompass> nothing... it just dies... should I try for a console output?
[02:57] <mahangu> syndicate, that sounds like a hostname issue, i have no clue, sorry
[02:57] <mahangu> encompass, yes
[02:57] <holycow> redeeman, yes
[02:57] <syndicate> cool
[02:57] <encompass> ok I will try here
[02:57] <hydroksyde> odat: Why were you mounting another drive on /home... Did you copy your previous /home over? or have it like that from that start?
[02:57] <Reredeemed> on all of the files?
[02:57] <Seveas> syndicate, 'kitchen' is a wins name, use samba to be able to use such names
[02:57] <holycow> Reredeemed, on all of the lines
[02:57] <crov> _jason, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5330
[02:57] <Reredeemed> ok
[02:57] <invisible_> holycow priv :>
[02:57] <soundray> holycow, yes, it's something I'll keep in mind.
[02:57] <hydroksyde> odat: It's quite possibly that everything was working fine in the first place anyway...
[02:58] <holycow> invisible_, just ask here i'm too lazyu
[02:58] <holycow> :)
[02:58] <syndicate> Seveas, i have samba installed, and i can map the drives using the wins name, but it does not work in the terminal for vncviewer
[02:58] <odat> hydroksyde, that was the default ubuntu gave me when i was installing it i figure it was probably the best option
[02:58] <_jason> crov, and you want to add backports?
[02:58] <holycow> besides freenode doesn't allow priv messages unless your registered or something
[02:58] <BufordTJustice> what repository is mplayer in?
[02:58] <invisible_> holycow where to set multiple sound channels
[02:58] <mahangu> BufordTJustice, universe
[02:58] <invisible_> in which file
[02:58] <theD3viL> BufordTJustice, marillat
[02:58] <encompass> are all debian packages in ubuntu?
[02:59] <odat> hydroksyde, all i want to do is be able to see the drive i'm putting files on and pick the hard drive they are going to sheesh why must linux be so silly with easy stuff
[02:59] <mahangu> theD3viL, for breezy in universe
[02:59] <encompass> I mean... most of them
[02:59] <holycow> invisible_, i'm not sure what your question means, which probably means i don't know the answer ... for example? what do you want to do?
[02:59] <crov> _jason, i wonna install flashplayer for firefox 1.0.7 (i have disabled as you see 2 source about multiverse) as in them i didnt find flashplayer
[02:59] <theD3viL> mahangu, sry..didnt know
[02:59] <mahangu> encompass, most are, but they are recompiled for ubuntu
[02:59] <hydroksyde> odat: There's a reason for this
[02:59] <encompass> I see thanks
[02:59] <theD3viL> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=540607#post540607 > help me
[02:59] <invisible_> holycow so that i could listen to music and watch videos at the same time
[03:00] <korhalf> Does anyone know how to get CS Source working on Ubuntu? it keeps telling me i need the newest version of direct X.
[03:00] <invisible_> holycow i get error that there is pnly one sound channel
[03:00] <holycow> i do that all the time, you don't haveto do anything
[03:00] <hydroksyde> odat: Unlike windows, linux only has one directory tree, and the drives are all mounted at various points on the tree. There are advantages and disadvantages to this
[03:00] <_jason> crov, okay you have disabled the mutliverse in backports, what you want to do is add multiverse to line 18.  That will give you mutliverse in main
[03:00] <odat> hydroksyde, i'm sure there is and i'm sure its really important if you in the pentagon but i'm just a guy who wants to store some music on my slave drive  not run the government.
[03:00] <syndicate> Seveas, a google on wins and ubuntu got me to the right page - thanks
[03:00] <holycow> invisible_, that should work by default, BUT, the sound card issue is basically a problem in all linux
[03:00] <Seveas> syndicate, please put the url in here :)
[03:00] <Seveas> (so we can add it to the bot)
[03:00] <hydroksyde> odat: Tried Windows? Or try ubuntu and leave it as default
[03:01] <invisible_> holycow i remember there was one config file where I could dod that, but where :>
[03:01] <Reredeemed> ok I did as you said
[03:01] <holycow> invisible_, from what i understand sound card makers neither open source nor write drivers for sound chipsets for linux, so some hackery has gone on with regards to 'sound mixing' in linux and it doesn't often work.  for example most of the time i can play multiple files but occasionally the system will start to screech
[03:01] <odat> hydroksyde, so you are telling me there is no way to get a friggin icon of my slave drive so i can access it?
[03:01] <hydroksyde> odat: you can
[03:01] <Seveas> odat, you want an icon on your desktop?
[03:01] <holycow> invisible_, if you find it let me know :) i'm curious, i dont know enough about sound my self
[03:02] <Reredeemed> OK i am going for it
[03:02] <Reredeemed> be back soon
[03:02] <invisible_> k
[03:02] <Reredeemed> wish me luck
[03:02] <odat> hydroksyde, that is all i wanted  where ever i don't care as long as i can access my slave drive to get files from or put file on
[03:02] <crov> _jason, to copz from line 28,29 to 18,19 and uncomment them or?
[03:02] <soundray> What's a nice gadgety Christmas present with full Ubuntu support? ;)
[03:02] <encompass> it gives me a seg fault with no errors calls
[03:02] <encompass> if I do small transferes it is ok, but bigone it segfaults
[03:02] <Seveas> odat, if the drive is mounted: ln -s ~/Desktop/"Slave Drive" /media/where_your_drive_is
[03:02] <hydroksyde> odat: You can do that, but ubuntu has already put the home directories there
[03:02] <Ahmuck> how do i make a boot diskette ?
[03:02] <encompass> it the a different non kde ftp program I can use?
[03:03] <Seveas> encompass, gftp, nautilus, mc...
[03:03] <holycow> encompass, i use gftp
[03:03] <hydroksyde> Seveas: Ubuntu installation has decided to use the drive for home
[03:03] <mahangu_> encompass, gfto
[03:03] <mahangu_> *p
[03:03] <syndicate> Seveas, http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:R61viX6w4qsJ:www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php%3Fpostid%3D1704026+ubuntu+%22wins+name%22&hl=en&client=opera
[03:03] <encompass> gftp is segfaulting on me
[03:03] <Seveas> hydroksyde, ubuntu does not decide thar
[03:03] <_jason> crov, just add the word "mutliverse" to the end of line 18 and 19.  That will give you the multiverse repository.  If you want to enable backports as well, then you uncomment lines 28 and 29
[03:03] <mahangu_> hydroksyde, ubuntu decides nothing, you do
[03:03] <holycow> encompass, you can even transfer files via nautilus using ftp, ssh, etc
[03:03] <Seveas> the user does that when installing
[03:03] <marian> hello
[03:03] <Seveas> encompass, places -> connect to server (in gnome)
[03:03] <encompass> that is what I am doing now, nautilus
[03:04] <soundray> Ahmuck, download a boot floppy image from the web and copy it to a floppy with "sudo dd if=file.img of=/dev/fd0"
[03:04] <odat> hydroksyde, how the hell do i undo that friggin command you suggested?
[03:04] <holycow> what Seveas said also, that is a really great tool
[03:04] <encompass> but I would rather do it the goodol way
[03:04] <encompass> graphical ftp
[03:04] <odat> Seveas, will this mount the drive everytime i boot?
[03:04] <_jason> crov, if you are unsure just pastebin again once you are done and I'll check it out
[03:04] <Seveas> encompass, you can try the gftp package from seveas.ubuntulinux.nl if you're on i386
[03:04] <hydroksyde> You can't, but it should set things to the way they are supposed to be anyway...
[03:04] <Red-Sox-1> hi
[03:04] <Seveas> odat, no, for that you need to put the drive in /etc/fsta
[03:04] <Red-Sox-1> snorks: are you here?
[03:04] <Seveas> odat, no, for that you need to put the drive in /etc/fstab
[03:04] <encompass> yes, what is seveas?
[03:05] <korhalf> http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=17  <-- That's the article i followed on how to get CS:S working, but it appears they forgot that CS and HL2 NEED DIRECTX!
[03:05] <encompass> just another repository, but what is so great about it
[03:05] <odat> Seveas, it is there already
[03:06] <odat> Seveas, /dev/hdb1  /home           ext3         defaults                    0  2
[03:06] <Seveas> encompass, the gftp in there has some different compile options, it might work better for you
[03:06] <Seveas> odat, cool
[03:06] <hydroksyde> That was exactly my point
[03:06] <encompass> ok thanks
[03:06] <encompass> I will try it
[03:06] <Seveas> then what is the problem?
[03:06] <odat> Seveas, my question is how do i access it?
[03:07] <Seveas> your homedir is on that drive, everything you put in your homedir will be on that drive
[03:07] <korhalf> Can anyone at least lead me to an IRC channel that can help?
[03:07] <Red-Sox-1> whoa
[03:07] <Red-Sox-1> snorks: ?
[03:07] <hydroksyde> Seveas: He just wants to be able to see an icon for the drive, where he knows where it is
[03:07] <hydroksyde> like in windows
[03:07] <Seveas> odat, you don't need that
[03:07] <Seveas> your homedir IS that drive, that drive IS your homedir
[03:07] <hydroksyde> Seveas: Who are you to tell him what he needs?
[03:08] <Seveas> so wherever you put files in your homedir, it's on that drive
[03:08] <hydroksyde> his needs are simple and clear
[03:08] <encompass> ubuntu is soooo green
[03:08] <BufordTJustice> does anyone know what respository the w32codecs are?
[03:08] <moviegrl> hello
[03:08] <Red-Sox-1> hi
[03:08] <jeanmarc> msn messenger 7.5
[03:08] <holycow> hydroksyde, just create a launcher?
[03:08] <Seveas> !tell BufordTJustice about w32codecs
[03:08] <moviegrl> there is a way to create movies from pictures with sound? something like the sw that sony shps with his camera
[03:08] <Red-Sox-1> i cant figure out how to create a new network (i no it sounds silly, but It doesnt see my network)
[03:09] <odat> Seveas, ok i'm reinstalling and mounting that someplace besides the home directory because it just way to confusing what is using what drive
[03:09] <Red-Sox-1> im in ubuntu right now, though
[03:09] <holycow> Red-Sox-1, what do you mean your network, windows machines?
[03:09] <hydroksyde> odat: the problem is, you'll have to move all of your existing home directories off that drive
[03:09] <Red-Sox-1> holycow: yes
[03:09] <Red-Sox-1> holycow: thats what I mean
[03:09] <holycow> Red-Sox-1, do you have firestarter installed?
[03:10] <Red-Sox-1> holycow: not unless it came with it
[03:10] <odat> hydroksyde, if i reinstall and setup the slave drive to be some like /slave  instead of /home  will that be easier?
[03:10] <hydroksyde> odat: Yeah
[03:10] <Red-Sox-1> Hentai^XP2: happy to see you, I have no gui
[03:10] <Storkme_> i'm in love - with linux
[03:10] <crov> _jason,  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5331   i got some problem when try to udpate list, *i wonna install flashplayer for firefox 1.0.7
[03:10] <holycow> if you don't have firstarter then ubuntu wouldn't be doing any packet filtering by default ... it should appear under places/networks automatically
[03:11] <holycow> Red-Sox-1, are you sureyou are on the same subnet?
[03:11] <_jason> crov, what was the problem
[03:11] <Red-Sox-1> holycow: i dont know what that means
[03:11] <odat> hydroksyde, that way i can have a file/folder called /slave and know that that is my slave drive without the confusion
[03:11] <Red-Sox-1> holycow: sorry :(
[03:11] <holycow> Red-Sox-1, no problem, lets debug
[03:11] <hydroksyde> odat: yes
[03:11] <crov> _jason,  http://at.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/Release: Unable to find expected entry  mutliverse/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[03:11] <odat> hydroksyde, why does ubuntu then default to /home for a slave drive?
[03:11] <holycow> 1. lets check in windows first.  do start / settings / network.  double click on your ethernet adapter and tell us the ip and the subment mask please
[03:12] <holycow> is it dhcp or static ip?
[03:12] <hydroksyde> odat: probably so that all user files go straight to that drive
[03:12] <Red-Sox-1> holycow: dhcp
[03:12] <hydroksyde> odat: so if, for example, you were to create a document, that would be where it goes
[03:12] <soundray> odat, most people who install a second drive want it for their home directories.
[03:13] <soundray> odat, it's like the division between a system disk and a data disk then.
[03:13] <Red-Sox-1> holycow: but remember, I dont have windows running right now because I dont have IRC in windows
[03:13] <hydroksyde> odat: In time, if you stick with linux, You'll understand the unix file system, and what it means
[03:13] <hydroksyde> odat: for now, just make it /slave
[03:13] <holycow> ubuntu is dhcp by default too ... lets check 2. do system, admin, networking check ethernet config, dhcp or static?
[03:13] <kbrooks> hydroksyde, correction ... linux
[03:13] <kbrooks> not unix
[03:13] <_jason> crov, don't know what that is.  Try using http://archive.ubuntu.com instead of http://at.archive.ubuntu.com temporarily to see if it is a problem with the mirror
[03:13] <odat> hydroksyde, when i reinstall?
[03:14] <nelposto> n00b question... just installed ubuntu today.. already fuxx0red with everything and stopped it from booting into X.. how do I run X from the console?
[03:14] <hydroksyde> odat: yes
[03:14] <Seveas> kbrooks, it's the UNIX filesystem ;)
[03:14] <djk_> how do i save iptable rules in ubuntu?
[03:14] <kbrooks> Seveas, bullshit
[03:14] <Seveas> kbrooks, (but the debian FHS - which makes it great)
[03:14] <Seveas> kbrooks, language
[03:14] <hydroksyde> kbrooks: I'm not taking ext3, i'm talking the way the tree works in all unixes
[03:14] <odat> hydroksyde, ok cuz i don't want everything i'm doing to automatically be stored on the slave drive which is the smaller of the two anyway
[03:14] <holycow> odat, sudo startx for x it self, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart to have gdm come back up to login
[03:15] <soundray> holycow, startx with sudo??
[03:15] <Stork> how can i check if my partition worked? i want to see if i deleted all my old windows files when i installed ubuntu
[03:15] <djk_> Seveas: how do i save iptable rules in ubuntu?
[03:15] <kbrooks> NO.
[03:15] <kbrooks> er, no
[03:15] <bluewater> !mplayer
[03:15] <holycow> soundray, of course
[03:15] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[03:15] <odat> holycow, what are you talking about i'm reinstalling
[03:15] <kbrooks> holycow, no
[03:15] <kbrooks> holycow, no
[03:15] <hydroksyde> kbrooks: Linux wasn't the first system to use mount points
[03:15] <crov> _jason, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5332
[03:15] <Seveas> djk_, iptables_save
[03:15] <kbrooks> holycow, running applications as root is bad
[03:15] <kbrooks> very bad
[03:15] <Stork> anyone?
[03:15] <holycow> odat, you asked how to startx, that is how you start x
[03:15] <soundray> holycow, wouldn't that give you Gnome running as root?
[03:15] <holycow> kbrooks, okay, odat then just startx
[03:16] <Seveas> djk_, iptables-save it is
[03:16] <kbrooks> holycow, startx not sudo startx
[03:16] <Seveas> iptables-restore restores them
[03:16] <odat> holycow, no i didn't
[03:16] <djk_> Seveas: just /sbin/iptables-save ?
[03:16] <Snadder> hi.. anyone know how I can get java generics for my ubuntu installation?
[03:16] <Seveas> ewwwwwww, who said sudo startx?
[03:16] <holycow> lol whatever dude
[03:16] <odat> thanks hydroksyde
[03:16] <nelposto> twas me that asked on how to start x
[03:16] <Seveas> djk_, read the manpage :)
[03:16] <Snadder> sdk1.5
[03:16] <Red-Sox-1> holycow: ?
[03:16] <kbrooks> holycow odat, sudo startx for x it self, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart to have gdm come back up to login
[03:16] <nelposto> should have guessed.. startx
[03:16] <kbrooks> Seveas, ^
[03:16] <Snadder> seems like I got breezy.. but 1.4 is installed..
[03:16] <holycow> kbrooks, danke for the correction
[03:16] <Seveas> sudo startx is something you should NEVER do
[03:16] <_jason> crov, you get that error when you do apt-get update ?
[03:17] <Snadder> anyone know what I need to do. to upgrade to j2sdk1.5?
[03:17] <kbrooks> Seveas, NEVER, ever, never.
[03:17] <djk_> Seveas: heh, i'm used to /sbin/iptables-save > /etc/sysconfig/iptables to save :)
[03:17] <hydroksyde> you ubuntu users seem to sudo everything...
[03:17] <Seveas> !tell Snadder about java
[03:17] <nelposto> cheers.. if i make it into X i'll be back to probe your minds some more
[03:17] <soundray> hydroksyde, you're right, it's almost as bad as just logging in as root.
[03:17] <Red-Sox-1> im so so so so confused
[03:18] <holycow> Red-Sox-1, not sure what your question up there was.
[03:18] <kbrooks> hydroksyde, not everything
[03:18] <holycow> did you check if your linux box is on dhcp as i explained how to?
[03:18] <hydroksyde> I guess sudo isn't needed for cat and vi =P
[03:18] <Red-Sox-1> holycow: i dont have gui right now
[03:18] <kbrooks> i dont do sudo xchat just because i can
[03:19] <kbrooks> hydroksyde, correct
[03:19] <Seveas> kbrooks, *shiver*
[03:19] <Seveas> sudo xchat :/
[03:19] <crov> _jason, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5333 i get this error when try sudo apt-get update
[03:19] <Storkme> how can i check if my partition worked? i want to see if i deleted all my old windows files when i installed ubuntu..
[03:19] <Red-Sox-1> brb
[03:19] <kbrooks> Seveas, very bad, but at least xchat warns you
[03:19] <Seveas> really?
[03:19] <Seveas> I'm temted to try :)
[03:19] <kbrooks> that its bad to run as root
[03:19] <Storkme> anyone at all?
[03:20] <soundray> Storkme, if you installed Ubuntu in your former Windows partition, there is no way that any of the old Windows file are still accessible
[03:20] <Seveas> cool
[03:20] <kbrooks> "* Running IRC as root is stupid! You should
[03:20] <kbrooks>   create a User Account and use that to login.
[03:20] <kbrooks> "
[03:20] <soundray> Storkme unless you use expensive forensic tools.
[03:20] <Seveas> I saw :)
[03:20] <Seveas> sould irssi do the same?
[03:20] <holycow> i think you guys are mixing up 'why' you may or may not want to do a particular thing ... while you are correct running most things as root is bad, for testing purposes ....
[03:20] <_jason> can someone help me out trying to help crov?  He has this sources.list: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5331 and gets this error when he runs apt-get update: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5333
[03:20] <nelposto> ok thanks to the one who told me how to start x from console... but how can I make x start on boot now?
[03:20] <holycow> ... depends, a quick check to make sure something starts up as root can be usefull on occasion when you are pulling your hair out
[03:21] <LootBeer> i need a boot floppy disk for my new ubuntu install... anyone can help me???
[03:21] <holycow> just don't use it as root of course
[03:21] <Storkme> soundray, i think i've made a partition, i just want to check if it worked
[03:21] <kbrooks> nelposto, Make gdm start on bootup
[03:21] <Seveas> crov, "mutliverse"???
[03:21] <Seveas> try "multiverse"
[03:21] <nExy> I have no sound on my ubuntu server install. What can I do to have sound?
[03:21] <nelposto> kbrooks: how can I do that?
[03:21] <_jason> Seveas, lol oh
[03:21] <soundray> Storkme, are you still running the installer?
[03:21] <_jason> Seveas, thans
[03:21] <Storkme> soundray, nope
[03:21] <kbrooks> nelposto, does it startup on boot?
[03:21] <soundray> Storkme, you've installed Ubuntu?
[03:21] <nExy> I have no sound on my ubuntu server install. What can I do to have sound?
[03:21] <crov> Seveas,  i just copy what _jason sey,
[03:22] <Seveas> nExy, turn your stereo on :)
[03:22] <Zilenos> does any one why it wont record when i plug in my guitar into the computer
[03:22] <Seveas> crov, you made a typo
[03:22] <Storkme> soundray, i'm on it now, on xchat
[03:22] <nExy> fnny
[03:22] <nelposto> kbrooks no, I just installed it today and mucked around with some things and it doesn't start on boot anymore
[03:22] <Seveas> it's multiverse, not mutliverse
[03:22] <holycow> nelposto, why are you doing this by hand? just do sudo apt-get install gdm and it will autoconfig to start on boot
[03:22] <kbrooks> noirequus, hi
[03:22] <soundray> Storkme, the command line way to see your partitions is 'fdisk -l'
[03:22] <nelposto> holycow i have no idea about this.. is that all i need to do?
[03:22] <Storkme> thanks
[03:22] <_jason> crov, heh sorry about that... I'll type slower next time :D
[03:22] <crov> Seveas,  quote from _jason (just add the word "mutliverse" to the end of line 18 and 19.  That will give you the multiverse repository.  If you want to enable backports as well, then you uncomment lines 28 and 29)
[03:22] <holycow> nelposto, yep
[03:22] <Storkme> that's on the terminal right? i'm a linux noob
[03:23] <crov> _jason,  :) np
[03:23] <soundray> Storkme, similar info is accessible through System-Administration-Disks
[03:23] <ubuntu_> woohoo!
[03:23] <nelposto> holycow: "gdm is already the newest version.
[03:23] <nelposto> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[03:23] <nelposto> "
[03:23] <ubuntu_> snorks: are you here?
[03:23] <ubuntu_> oops
[03:23] <ubuntu_> lemme change my nick
[03:23] <holycow> nelposto, then you are done.  restart gdm with sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[03:24] <Red-Sox-2> okay
[03:24] <nelposto> thanks holycow
[03:24] <mommer> hi. How do I go about rolling my own kernel for ubuntu? I would rather just modify the kernel that is used already. What package would I have to apt-get?
[03:24] <Seveas> !tell mommer about kernelcompile
[03:25] <Storkme> soundray, it says "Free Space" and "Partition 5"
[03:25] <mommer> Seveas, thanks.
[03:25] <soundray> Storkme, is that in "Partition list"?
[03:26] <Storkme> soundray, yep
[03:26] <crov> _jason, Seveas   thnx for helping, now i got flash working in firefox 1.0.7  :)) thnx
[03:26] <_jason> crov, np
[03:26] <encompass> Seveas: dang.... still segfaulted... happened on lots of different linux os's with gftp
[03:26] <encompass> just can't figure it out
[03:26] <kismet> Hi All! Which package should I have to install to be able to use the <linux/mdt/mtd.h> include file?
[03:26] <soundray> Storkme, in that case it's likely that something hasn't worked.
[03:27] <Red-Sox-2> is there a terminal-based web-browser?
[03:27] <soundray> Storkme, have you rebooted since you did the partitioning?
[03:27] <lonewolff> Red-Sox-2: there are lots
[03:27] <soundray> Red-Sox-2, links, elinks, lynx, w3m
[03:27] <_jason> Red-Sox-2, lynx for one
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> Red-Sox-2,  Lynx. Links, w3m
[03:27] <encompass> red try lynks
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> :)
[03:27] <encompass> or w3m
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> some can even do a ok "gui" with the framebuffer device
[03:28] <holycow> Red-Sox-2, cat /etc/network/interfaces will give you information about your network interfaces
[03:28] <soundray> Red-Sox-2, if you're really hardcore, use telnet webserver 80 :)
[03:28] <Red-Sox-2> okay
[03:28] <kismet> Hi all| When the mapping stanza inside the /etc/network/intefaces is execute? Everytime I use ifup, ifdown?
[03:29] <MikeG> How do I install kernel-source? apt-get install kernel-source wants a version number. uname -a gives 2.6.12-10-386
[03:29] <nelposto> holycow.. I still don't have X starting on boot up..
[03:29] <holycow> nelposto, how is that possible ... do you have error messages? do you have gnome/kde installed?
[03:29] <holycow> how did you get a box without a desktop environment?
[03:29] <Zilenos> where can i see to check how long my computers been running?
[03:30] <johnsie2k> Is there any way I can set the screen refresh rate on lnux for a laptop?
[03:30] <holycow> Zilenos, uptime
[03:30] <Zilenos> thanks
[03:30] <lonewolff> Zilenos: uptime in terminal does it
[03:30] <Zilenos> thanks
[03:30] <soundray> johnsie2k, it's possible, but shouldn't be necessary.
[03:30] <Zilenos> what does load average mean??
[03:30] <_willcooke_> Anyone hot on TV Out on Nvidia cards?
[03:31] <Seveas> johnsie2k, you can set it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:31] <soundray> _willcooke_, p'ed off is the better word.
[03:31] <nelposto> holycow: well it was starting up on boot before, then I was changing some things in sysv-rc-conf and when I restarted, X no longer boots automatically
[03:31] <holycow> nelposto, then you have much larger problems than reinstalling x/gdm/etc
[03:32] <nelposto> holycow .. it's ok, I worked out my problem
[03:32] <holycow> nelposto, thats a bit too hard to debug on irc, perhaps someone can take a stab in the dark ...
[03:32] <holycow> lol what was it?
[03:32] <ltibor65> Hi! I will compile gcc 4.0.2 for Ubuntu 5.1, but I get this: error: no acceptable cc found in $PATH
[03:32] <_willcooke_> soundray, Having as much luck as me then eh?!  I've got it working, but it's mirroring whats on the main screen, I want it to be a seperate desktop.  Perhaps my card cant do that
[03:32] <nelposto> holycow .. no somehow i managed to turn off gdm at runlevel s
[03:32] <nelposto> as clever as I am
[03:32] <ltibor65> Who can help me?
[03:33] <nelposto> i expect that being re-enabled I should have no more issues
[03:33] <soundray> _willcooke_, have you found the readme in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/ *
[03:33] <soundray> s/\*/\?/
[03:33] <_willcooke_> soundray, you mean read the manual?!
[03:33] <soundray> _willcooke_, sorry for suggesting such a desperate measure :)
[03:34] <Storkme_> soundray, yep it's in Partition List
[03:34] <_willcooke_> soundray, ;)
[03:34] <nelposto> thanks for the help holycow. off to test it
[03:34] <soundray> Storkme, you mean it's worked now?
[03:34] <majyk> is there an archive similar to freshrpms.net for Ubuntu? An archive that has up to date packages but are created by independent groups and not anything that is officially support? Something like a bleeding edge archive for the latest stuff.
[03:35] <soundray> majyk, I think the closest is breezy-backports
[03:35] <Storkme_> soundray, i'm not sure how i can tell
[03:35] <Storkme_> soundray, i guess the only way is to restart and try and boot windows?
[03:36] <soundray> Storkme_, when you said "yep it's in Partition List" - what did you mean?
[03:36] <holycow> majyk, the day those start appearing is the day i take a gun and start shooting
[03:36] <holycow> my god what are you thining man?
[03:36] <holycow> you want that hell to spread to debian?
[03:37] <holycow> jeebus
[03:37] <majyk> I'd like Firefox 1.5 and there is no package
[03:37] <SockerFot> hello
[03:37] <soundray> majyk, wouldn't we all.
[03:37] <SockerFot> well hehehe i just installed ubuntu
[03:37] <SockerFot> and damn, its nice
[03:37] <holycow> majyk, oh jesus dude, downlaod the one from mozilla nd just extract and run binary
[03:37] <BufordTJustice> anyone know of any nice little games worth installing
[03:37] <mommer> can someone help me? I cannot modprobe the ndiswrapper module ("operation not permited"). Yes, as root.
[03:37] <holycow> until the package comes out
[03:37] <soundray> majyk, but 1.5 is going into dapper, not breezy, and there's a shedload of good reasons for it.
[03:37] <holycow> majyk, create a goddamned luancher if you want
[03:37] <SockerFot> holycow, well LIVE finally worked and now ive partitionated and installed Ubuntu
[03:37] <mommer> building a kernel looks like overkill
[03:38] <holycow> dapper comes out in less than 5 months anyway
[03:38] <holycow> SockerFot, cool
[03:38] <majyk> holycow, it's all about package integrity
[03:38] <SockerFot> holycow, how do i make beeping sounds at highlight?
[03:38] <soundray> majyk, see how upset you made holycow :) ?
[03:38] <SockerFot> and is there any way to make som kind of "Perform" in X-chat?
[03:38] <holycow> majyk, dude, please, your asking aobut fresh rpms stuff and in almost the same sentence you are talking about package integrity?
[03:38] <Dex-Freudii> hi there!!
[03:38] <Dex-Freudii> any of you ever used gqcam in ubuntu???
[03:38] <holycow> majyk, run a local firefox for a little while and sit on your thumbs.  jesus, it's only a browser
[03:39] <soundray> Dex-Freudii, yes I have.
[03:39] <majyk> holycow, you should really calm down
[03:39] <_jason> SockerFot, settings prefs general alerts
[03:39] <Zugot> why does ubuntu keep overwriting my /etc/resolv.conf file?  its fairly annoying
[03:39] <SockerFot> ah there there
[03:39] <soundray> Dex-Freudii, and I switched to xawtv after the experience.
[03:39] <_jason> SockerFot, you will problably need to specify a beep sound in the sound options too
[03:39] <holycow> SockerFot, lol, no idea but okay
[03:39] <majyk> it was just a question, if I've offended the Ubuntu GODs so then let them strike me dead today
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> Zugot,  thers some sort of network service/init script thats supposed to write that file automaticially
[03:39] <holycow> majyk, don't lump me in with the god's i'm just dweebage
[03:39] <holycow> :)
[03:39] <Zugot> Dr_Willis thats silly
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> Zugot,  i THINK you want to check out some "static ip and dhcp" wiki page
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> Zugot,  whatever. :P
[03:40] <ltibor65> Isn't gcc in Ubuntu 5.10?
[03:40] <Zilenos> i have a load average of .28 .58 .32.... what does load average mean?
[03:40] <holycow> majyk, i felt the same way about java actually, the new instructyions however have you build your own deb ... and i guess thats okay
[03:40] <soundray> ltibor65, are you pulling our legs?
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> Zugot,  come up with a better way to handle the wireless network jumping/hopping then.
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> Zugot,  at least i THINK thats whats going on.
[03:40] <holycow> majyk, i know what you are getting at in other words
[03:40] <SockerFot> someone highlight mw
[03:40] <SockerFot> e
[03:40] <LjL> ltibor65: don't think so, install it with "sudo aptitude install build-essential"
[03:40] <Zugot> Dr_Willis if i modify the resolv.conf myself, i don't want ubuntu to touch it.   i understand that works for wireless... but in other cases its fairly annoying
[03:41] <ruminator> Zugot: try chattr +i /etc/resolve.conf
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> Zugot,  take it to the forums - im sure theres a large and heated discussion there.
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> Zugot,  actually i think theres some OTHER config file you change and it rembers it then. but i forget which
[03:42] <yatesy> Zugot: using dhcp? by default that'll overwrite the values in there
[03:42] <yatesy> if so then modify dhclient.conf
[03:43] <ltibor65> LjL, Must I scrive: " sudo aptitude install build-essential?"
[03:43] <LjL> ltibor65: that will install gcc as well as other tools you need for compiling, yes
[03:43] <Zugot> yatesy i just use the kde network settings tool to change the default
[03:43] <Zilenos> does any one why it wont record when i plug in my guitar into the computer
[03:44] <LjL> ltibor65: (the verb in english is "write" ;)
[03:44] <Zugot> i'm just not used to have the system be so smart
[03:44] <yatesy> dhclient has done that for years
[03:44] <ltibor65> Thanks.
[03:44] <Stork> i'm having trouble with Step 4 (installing java) at http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#jre
[03:44] <soundray> Zilenos, maybe the input level is too low.
[03:44] <Dr_Willis> Zugot,  yep - figuring out how they 'idiot proofed' the tools and  useing them like an idiot - is getting to be  a common task these days. :)
[03:44] <Stork> i can't find Miscellaneous - Text Based (multiverse) > java-package in Synaptic Package Manager
[03:44] <Zilenos> soundray, no i checked that
[03:44] <mommer> this sucks really. Why does ubuntu ship a broken kernel module?
[03:45] <ltibor65> Are you english, LjL?
[03:45] <KBlacKBoX> Stork merci*
[03:45] <Zugot> yatesy: yeah it has... but how many times does dhclient update /etc/resolv.conf?  its seems like it was doing it every 15 minutes
[03:45] <soundray> Zilenos, have you tried the mixer settings?
[03:45] <cbear> what's the best distro for a laptop, it seems slow on the one i installed it on and i can't get the pcmia wifi card going
[03:45] <Stork> anyone?
[03:45] <LjL> ltibor65: no, i'm italian, if i were english, i would probably not understand your "scrive" at all :) but in italian it's similar
[03:45] <cbear> that is ubuntu seems slo
[03:45] <Zilenos> soundray, yeah i even maxed all controls
[03:46] <Zilenos> alsamixer
[03:46] <yatesy> Zugot: should be when its first run and requests details that go into resolv.conf, like nameservers and domain names
[03:46] <soundray> Have you tried another sound source?
[03:46] <mommer> cbear,  I've got slackware to work nicely. You will have to customize the kernel, though.
[03:46] <soundray> !tell Dex-Freudii about repositories
[03:46] <Zilenos> soundray, what do you mean by that? using another card?
[03:46] <Zilenos> i have an audigy platinum
[03:46] <holycow> cbear, #1 all linux distros are just linux. they all have the same tools available to them
[03:47] <crov> Stork,  try this, i am also installing jre https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-e2ebd70ede0e3eb2117ffbd618d2295dd1540dca
[03:47] <soundray> Zilenos, no, using a microphone for example.
[03:47] <Zilenos> yeah the mic works
[03:47] <holycow> lol hate that, ask question then jump
[03:47] <Zilenos> it works if i record on the mic, however, when i plug in my guitar to the sound card it doesnt record
[03:47] <kismet> Hi all! Which package contain the mtd.h file? So that I can compile my program?
[03:48] <holycow> Zilenos, your levels are wrong for the guitar
[03:48] <gardin> i have an email server with cyrus, but clients fails to move sent mails to the sent mail folder with the error "Permission denied" but the user has full access to that mailbox, what's wrong? How do i tell cyrus witch folder that is the sent folder? Only by naming it sent-mail?
[03:48] <Zilenos> holycow, my levels?
[03:48] <Storkme> i'm having trouble with Step 4 (installing java) at http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#jre . I can't find Miscellaneous - Text Based (multiverse) > java-package in Synaptic.
[03:49] <_jason> ubotu ?
[03:49] <holycow> Zilenos, damn i wish i could remember what i did ... what are you uising to record?
[03:49] <Zilenos> holycow, audacity
[03:49] <crov> Stork,  also this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions  , and here you have my sources.list  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5334  *check line 18
[03:49] <Zilenos> what do you use to record?
[03:49] <holycow> Zilenos, oh i used that too, but it's been so long
[03:49] <gardin> plz help! :D
[03:49] <_jason> Storkme, crov, there are javadebs available but I don't know where they are right now since ubotu isn't here
[03:50] <gardin> ubotu's dead
[03:50] <gardin> :D
[03:50] <holycow> Zilenos, if i remember correctly and i could be wrong i had to turn up the mic volumes to actually hear the guitar versus simple miced voice
[03:50] <trivial> hi everyone, I have a problem with my  Integrated USB WLAN 802.11 B/G module (b/g Reserved)..cannot locate hardware
[03:50] <yatesy> well obviously, guitars further away :P
[03:50] <ltibor65> LjL, do you use Ubuntu?
[03:50] <Bog_> what are some popular media managers for linux... like itunes
[03:50] <rambo3> how do i reinstall alsa?
[03:50] <Storkme> Bog_, ephpod is one
[03:50] <LjL> ltibor65: i use kubuntu specifically, but yet
[03:50] <LjL> yes
[03:51] <holycow> trivial, did you check if there is support in linux for it, typically if it doesn't work in debian/ubuntu its not supported (with some exceptions)
[03:51] <Bog_> storke: ephpod.com?
[03:51] <Storkme> google
[03:51] <jackmacokc> !samba
[03:51] <Storkme> so how do i install java :| ?
[03:51] <dylan> kbrooks, is linux insecure by default?
[03:51] <Bog_> stork: doesn't have to be for ipod
[03:51] <Zilenos> holycow, yeah that works to, having the sound of amp go through mic then to computer, but i wanted the guitar plugged in directly to the computer, i can get the guitar to work with the speakers but when i record the sound onnly comes off the speakers only and does not record
[03:51] <gutsohn> hi! after shutdown -h ** the last ten times every minute a broadcast message is sent. anybody knows where i can influence this?
[03:51] <gardin> my god, cyrus doesn't work!! users has all rights to create, remove and all that, but it responses with "permission denied" :(
[03:51] <yatesy> an OS is as secure as you can make it
[03:52] <Storkme> Bog_, don't know then :)
[03:52] <holycow> Zilenos, no no i meant with a 1/4 to 1/8th converter into the mic jack
[03:52] <Zilenos> oohhh
[03:52] <gardin> gutsohn: shutdown -h now
[03:52] <holycow> Zilenos, it comes off the speakers and doesn't record?
[03:52] <Storkme> ok forget java, linux is too complicated
[03:52] <Bog_> storke: it says windows, not linux based
[03:52] <Zilenos> holycow, yes
[03:52] <holycow> Zilenos, did you select the right source in app?
[03:52] <jackmacokc> storkme, you mean for firefox, or just in general
[03:52] <Zilenos> holycow, uh oh, lol
[03:53] <Bog_> storke: what it is: EphPod is a full-featured, easy-to-use Windows application
[03:53] <Storkme> jackmacokc, in general
[03:53] <crov> Stork,  try this, i am also installing jre https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-e2ebd70ede0e3eb2117ffbd618d2295dd1540dca
[03:53] <crov> Stork,  also this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions  , and here you have my sources.list  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5334  *check line 18
[03:53] <trivial> I ve checked the hardware manufacturer (SiS) and there is a driver called sis162u
[03:53] <blekos> hi guys
[03:53] <Storkme> Bog_, sorry, a friend told me it was for linux
[03:53] <gutsohn> gardin: i want to use a different time, but the broadcast messages the last then minutes are bad, i want for example only two at the end...
[03:53] <jackmacokc> storkme, have you read the instructions on the wiki? I found them pretty easy to follow
[03:53] <blekos> could u tell me how i can install new fonts?
[03:53] <kbrooks> dylan, no
[03:53] <blekos> (I need to intall greek characters)
[03:53] <Bog_> what media managers do people here use?
[03:53] <holycow> blekos, just put then into your ~/.fonts dir
[03:53] <gardin> then man shutdown :D, or shutdown --help
[03:53] <Zilenos> holycow,  no i didnt
[03:53] <jackmacokc> storkme, alternatively, search the forums for "EasyUbuntu" -- its an ap that installs java, among other things, with one click more or less
[03:53] <blekos> thnx
[03:53] <Storkme> jackmacokc, yes, and i couldn't find the package on synaptic that's supposed to be there
[03:53] <Zilenos> oops :p
[03:53] <CygnusX7> Hi. Is it true that Ubuntu has no building tools, like say I wanted to compile my own binary?
[03:53] <holycow> blekos, they can be either ttf or adobe fonts
[03:53] <[A] ndy80> how can I set the default application in Nautilus? for example... if I want mp3 to be opened with bmp by default and not Rythmbox.
[03:54] <holycow> Zilenos, works now?
[03:54] <jackmacokc> storkme, which package were you searching for
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> CygnusX7,  totally false.
[03:54] <crov> Storkme, read my 2 last post to Stork,
[03:54] <shivy> Good day people
[03:54] <Zilenos> no, i need to figure out how to change the source first
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> CygnusX7,  none are installed by DEFAULT however.. its a 2 min install  or so. "sudo apt-get build-essential"
[03:54] <trivial> the problem is that ndiswrapper says "driver present" only and my wireless led is permanently off
[03:54] <_jason> Storkme, crov, seveas's repo has hava packages: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/java/
[03:54] <_jason> java even
[03:55] <CygnusX7> My friend who runs Debian kept insisting that he doesnt use binaries and manually builds everything, which he cannot do with ubuntu and kept telling me not to "fragment the community". i am a TOTAL newbie and just started playing with ubuntu, i love it but this has me woried about when i know more
[03:55] <CygnusX7> so it's false ?
[03:55] <HighHopes> Hello folks! I've just installed xorg+gdm+fluxbox in my box and fluxbox loads really slow... I read many postings about this but I could not get a solution... What can I do? ...
[03:55] <Storkme> jackmacokc, which forums
[03:55] <holycow> CygnusX7, well what specifically are you worried about
[03:55] <jackmacokc> storkme, ubuntuforums
[03:55] <Zilenos> holycow, do i go to preferences and change the recording device to something else?
[03:55] <crov> _jason,  ok thnx i think i have done install of java trought this wiki, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-e2ebd70ede0e3eb2117ffbd618d2295dd1540dca
[03:56] <gutsohn> gardin: not that what i want, but thx
[03:56] <shivy> im looking for a good HTML editor But I cant find any userfriendly ? any Suggestions ?
[03:56] <holycow> CygnusX7, couple of things 1: i love debian, without debian there is no ubuntu
[03:56] <CygnusX7> well, say being able to install irssi, or being able to run tcl scripts, that sort of ting
[03:56] <holycow> 2: the day ubuntu forks from debian is the day i leave back to debian
[03:56] <CygnusX7> thing*
[03:56] <crov> _jason,  and its Setting up sun-j2re1.5 (1.5.0+update06) ...   :)
[03:56] <holycow> lots of people feel that way
[03:56] <jackmacokc> storkme, check this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=64629&highlight=easyubuntu
[03:56] <_jason> crov, k cool
[03:56] <soundray> holycow, seconded!
[03:56] <CygnusX7> so why was he so spooked and trying to talk me out of ubuntu?
[03:56] <SockerFot> hey
[03:56] <holycow> 3: ubuntu basically takes the latest unstable every 6 months and freezes it and polishes it.  debian doesn't have the resources for this, and the deskt6op requires A LOT OF WORK.  i know i tried a debian desktop pilot
[03:57] <SockerFot> what to do with these tar.bz2 files?
[03:57] <CygnusX7> he had the same disdain for it as fr windows.. which was very odd
[03:57] <holycow> #3 is actually a plus for debian not a minus
[03:57] <jackmacokc> storkme, scratch that - it doesnt look like it installs the full package, just the firefox plugin
[03:57] <gardin> how do i tell cyrus witch mailbox that is the sent-mail box? by naming it sent-mail only?
[03:57] <soundray> CygnusX7, not everyone in Debian is happy about what Ubuntu is trying to do.
[03:57] <dermaxx> jemand deutsches da der mir helfen kann?
[03:57] <Zilenos> holycow, do i go to preferences and change the recording device to something else?
[03:57] <_jason> SockerFot, tar jxvf file.bz2
[03:57] <holycow> 4: ubuntu adds packages that make life easier that don't fall within the debian social policy guidlines ... which is good and bad simultaneously
[03:57] <soundray> dermaxx, dafr musst Du Dich bei #ubuntu-de anmelden.
[03:57] <skulrid> ppl I used AUTOMATIX to instal a lot of things, and one of them "debian" in debain games theres is quake 2 witch is the only one that doesnt work, it just dont start, anyone knows why?
[03:57] <SockerFot> _jason, where?
[03:57] <CygnusX7> holycow ok another question
[03:58] <CygnusX7> i would like to have a dual boot system
[03:58] <_jason> SockerFot, what are you trying to do?
[03:58] <holycow> CygnusX7, the only bad things i can draw about ubuntu is the worry athat not enough of ubuntu work is going back to debian ... if there is such a thing.  it's mostly a worry because i don't know
[03:58] <CygnusX7> should i install windows xp or ubuntu first?
[03:58] <jackmacokc> sockerfot, it will untar it to the current directory in its own directory
[03:58] <gardin> CygnusX7 xp first
[03:58] <_jason> CygnusX7, XP
[03:58] <holycow> there you go :)
[03:58] <CygnusX7> great, it's already installed. thanks
[03:58] <SockerFot> _jason, im trying to install Azureus bittorrent client wich i just downloaded
[03:58] <shivy> Ehrm is there a html editor that is usable ?
[03:58] <cliebow> anyone using directory_administrator?
[03:58] <shivy> in ubuntu
[03:58] <CygnusX7> last question
[03:58] <jackmacokc> theres a package for that i'm sure sockerfot
[03:58] <CygnusX7> does ubuntu include tcl?
[03:59] <_jason> SockerFot, it may be easier to follow the wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[03:59] <CygnusX7> or do i have to download it/install it?
[03:59] <holycow> CygnusX7, not that i know of but its an easy install
[03:59] <holycow> CygnusX7, sudo apt-get install tcl
[03:59] <holycow> CygnusX7, to search do apt-cache search tcl
[03:59] <holycow> or...
[03:59] <holycow> do system / admin / synaptic
[03:59] <holycow> use gui :)
[03:59] <CygnusX7> perfect. java isnt too hard to install is it?
[04:00] <CygnusX7> or is it already packaged on the dvd? (i plan to use that to install from)
[04:00] <djk_> CygnusX7: no, it's available in some repos
[04:00] <holycow> http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/java/ <-- there
[04:00] <CygnusX7> perfect!!!
[04:00] <soundray> CygnusX7, it's in universe.
[04:00] <holycow> :)
[04:00] <holycow> soundray, it is?
[04:00] <lonewolff> the java installer from java.com is not exactly hard to use either
[04:00] <holycow> ah okay
[04:00] <djk_> holycow: that repo doesn't work :p
[04:00] <SockerFot> and what is python, is it good to have that installed?
[04:00] <Seveas> lonewolff, it just installs crap all over your system...
[04:00] <holycow> djk_, oh okay, i built my own so didn't check
[04:01] <Red-Sox-2> !lart #kubuntu-offtopic Tm_T
[04:01] <Seveas> djk_, the repo does work...
[04:01] <CygnusX7> python is a scripting language, its needed really only if you run a webserver that uses python scripts
[04:01] <Red-Sox-2> !lart
[04:01] <Seveas> CygnusX7, bs
[04:01] <kbrooks> Seveas, ^^^
[04:01] <lonewolff> Seveas: ah i see, i dont use sun java anymore what with being on ppc but never paid much attention to it when i was on x86 lol
[04:01] <gutsohn> bye
[04:01] <Seveas> CygnusX7, half of ubuntu runs on python :)
[04:01] <ltibor65> LjL, now I have gcc 4.0.2, but this cannot compile MPlayer 1.0pre7try2
[04:01] <u|qos> how is the pdftools package called?
[04:01] <Red-Sox-2> hmph
[04:01] <kbrooks> CygnusX7, i use python
[04:01] <CygnusX7> really?
[04:01] <kbrooks> CygnusX7, yes
[04:01] <CygnusX7> hehe im a newbie
[04:01] <djk_> Seveas: well yes, but didn't you say a while ago that you closed it?
[04:01] <holycow> CygnusX7, actually python is not so much used on the web, its used a lot for applicaitons that are between scripting and c++ kinds of things
[04:01] <soundray> CygnusX7, holycow, sorry, I was slow. I meant tcl is in universe.
[04:02] <holycow> soundray, ah k :)
[04:02] <CygnusX7> what is universe?
[04:02] <LjL> ltibor65: if you need another version, just "sudo aptitude install gcc-version", like "sudo aptitude install gcc-3.4"
[04:02] <Seveas> djk_, limited access to people who ask, not closed :)
[04:02] <LjL> ltibor65: but then remember to "export CC=gcc-3.4" before you start configuring and compiling!
[04:02] <djk_> Seveas: hehe okay, guess i misunderstood you then ;)
[04:02] <CygnusX7> Seveas, excuse me, i should learn a bit before answering questions :) (duh!)
[04:02] <soundray> CygnusX7, it's a repository of packages that are supported by the community, but not by Ubuntu proper.
[04:02] <holycow> CygnusX7, ubuntu has 3 repositories ... the main repository has the 2000 or so officially supported packages.  theother two have packages that are not supported but should work.
[04:02] <rudiz> dermax, #ubuntu-de
[04:02] <holycow> what soundray said
[04:03] <CygnusX7> is there a wiki on this subject, holycow?
[04:03] <CygnusX7> and i presume a good deal of the software is packaged on the dvd
[04:03] <holycow> CygnusX7, the only wiki that counts is google :)
[04:03] <CygnusX7> heh
[04:03] <djk_> Seveas: why did you limit access?
[04:04] <CygnusX7> thanks again
[04:04] <sorush21> hi guys my Kubuntu Pc is faliling to boot after cecking battery state, now the hdd is working and I'm not sure what its doing, I don't have a battery on my pc and I'm talking to you from a laptop. Could someone tell me how I can enable and disable daemons from the command line in the recovery mode?
[04:04] <meheren> can someone direct me to the plugin that allows totem to play .mov(quicktime) files?
[04:05] <holycow> meheren, 1. download w32codecs 2. remove totem-gstreamer 3. install totem-xine
[04:05] <Storkme_> hm, EasyUbuntu isn't all that easy
[04:05] <holycow> should work then
[04:05] <meheren> holycow:ok thx
[04:06] <kbrooks> Storkme, i heard it caused problems
[04:06] <Storkme_> it's confusing
[04:06] <Storkme_> linux is generally confusing
[04:07] <meheren> holycow:i alrready have totem xine should i install gstreamer then w32codec then install xine or should i be fine with just using xine?
[04:07] <lonewolff> Storkme_: i tend to find from people, that its only confusing if you think like you did when you used windows
[04:07] <holycow> Storkme, as are all things when you are learning them. eventually you build a schema in your mind, after which all you are doing is hanging knowledge onto that schema tree
[04:07] <pc22> i have 3 linux & 1 win98pc. do i need to have samba server in each computer to connect to each other's folder? cos when i reinstalled ubuntu everything fucked up.
[04:07] <holycow> wherein its fairly easy thereafter as it only become a process of googling
[04:07] <BufordTJustice> anyone had itunes running on wine in ubuntu 5.10
[04:07] <BufordTJustice> ?
[04:08] <cliebow> sorush21: i yhink you need to use somethingl like update-rc.d
[04:08] <lord_drachenblut> pc22 you could just run a openfiler server
[04:08] <pc22> how is that lord_drachenblut ?
[04:08] <cliebow> winscpont windows is easy
[04:08] <holycow> meheren, no don't install totem-gstreamer, but do install w32codecs ... the codecs are used by totem-xine and contain .mov support
[04:08] <cliebow> winscp on windows is easy
[04:08] <jackmacokc> i need to upgrade the drive on my ubuntu box, whats the best way to backup everything i need - which i assume is /etc and /home
[04:08] <lord_drachenblut> openfiler is a distro of linux that is built to be a nas
[04:08] <meheren> holycow:it saysw32codecs is already the newest version but totem will not play .mov(quicktime) files!
[04:09] <holycow> meheren, you did file/open on a .mov?
[04:09] <pc22> sorry im new to linux. what is nas?
[04:09] <meheren> no throuh a web browser
[04:09] <lord_drachenblut> network attachedstorage
[04:09] <Plutonic> hello, is anyone here known with wireless lan + wpa-psk configuration on an acer laptop, i'm stuck now
[04:09] <holycow> meheren, webserver? you mean play it in a browser?
[04:09] <meheren> holycow: yeh
[04:09] <holycow> meheren, the plugin for mozillla is borked
[04:09] <holycow> just forget using it
[04:09] <meheren> oh
[04:09] <holycow> that should of never made it out of the door
[04:10] <meheren> ok
[04:10] <meheren> even firefox and evolution?
[04:10] <meheren> waddabout firefox and evolution?
[04:10] <holycow> meheren, i would recommend removing the totem plugin manually ... it should be in /usr/lib/mozilla-?notsure?/plugins or something like that
[04:10] <holycow> all of them
[04:10] <lord_drachenblut> pc22 network attached storage
[04:10] <meheren> ok
[04:10] <pc22> lord_drachenblut, its a fileserver?
[04:10] <holycow> all of them basically use totem to do the rendering, that plugin isn't working period
[04:10] <lord_drachenblut> pc22 more or less
[04:11] <meheren> holycow: is there a program that will play the .mov files in the browser then?
[04:11] <holycow> meheren, what i do... is copy paste from source into totem player it self, right into file / open location
[04:11] <meheren> ok
[04:11] <pc22> lord_drachenblut, i cant use it as a desktop?
[04:11] <meheren> that works then?
[04:11] <holycow> meheren, not one that i know of that is good just yet.  give it time its hard to build that sort of thing
[04:12] <meheren> yeh i no
[04:12] <SockerFot> hello
[04:12] <SockerFot> im trying to type in a thing in a terminal
[04:12] <lord_drachenblut> pc22 would be recomended..... this is something you would want to shove in a closet and attach to the network and let all machines access it
[04:12] <holycow> meheren, actually its very difficult, all of that stuff has to be reverse engineered, there are no specs and the fuckers refuse to open source anything
[04:12] <SockerFot> but it says i need more authentication, how do i get it?
[04:12] <SockerFot> it says i need "superuserauthentication"
[04:12] <sorush21> cliebow: where can I read more about this and how does it help
[04:12] <jcaine> hi all
[04:12] <SockerFot> how the hell do i get that
[04:12] <meheren> yep i no apple
[04:12] <holycow> meheren, for all that open source / free software did for apple, they still cannot release a bloody qt player for linux
[04:12] <holycow> amazing eh?
[04:12] <meheren> all about good but all about them not open source
[04:12] <jcaine> Is there anyway I can reduce the bass for all sound?
[04:12] <meheren> lol
[04:12] <Stork> what do i do with a .bin file?
[04:13] <jackmacokc> if i copy /home and /etc over samba to my windows box, i should be able to restore them if i blow my drive away with no problems, right?
[04:13] <pc22> openfiler is a full distro? i can use it as a desktop?
[04:13] <meheren> tiger webserver is based on unix!
[04:13] <lonewolff> Stork: assuming you trust it then ./filename.bin
[04:13] <holycow> meheren, they are only the good guys because they are too small to be evil, the bastards would be as bad as ms if they were larger
[04:13] <Stork> cool
[04:13] <benoit_> hi
[04:13] <meheren> yeh probally
[04:13] <lord_drachenblut> pc22 i don't believe it is a full distro perse it is built to be network attached storage
[04:13] <IQ-User> hi everybody
[04:14] <holycow> nite all
[04:14] <pc22> ahhh
[04:14] <meheren> lets c you said usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins?
[04:14] <lord_drachenblut> just google it and you will get all the info
[04:14] <IQ-User> help...mi
[04:14] <pc22> im on it now.
[04:14] <pc22> any other option?
[04:14] <lord_drachenblut> not off the top of my head
[04:15] <benoit_> I try to use module-assistant to install my wifi card DWL-650+, driver is acx100, but when I try to install that say, download failed, you must add something to your source.list, contrib or non-free, I add non-free I found no contrib, is someone can help me ?
[04:15] <Gorge544> hello
[04:15] <pantz> can anyone tell me what to run to reconfigure X - like the thing that is run during installation to set the resolution?
[04:15] <jackmacokc> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:15] <hexion> hello
[04:15] <hexion> I have a problem...
[04:15] <nickrud> benoit_, module-assistant seems to be asking for debian repositories
[04:16] <meheren> how do i change permissions in the command line?
[04:16] <IQ-User> i did install sl-modem an sl-modem-source and istall with module assistant the modules but the damn modem does not work
[04:16] <IQ-User> can anyone help me?
[04:16] <jackmacokc> pantz, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:16] <pantz> jackmacokc, thanks
[04:16] <Gorge544> Does anyone know how to make the desktop fit the screen?
[04:16] <benoit_> nickrud: I must add debian contrib and non-free isn't it going to do my ubuntu unstable ??
[04:16] <jackmacokc> gorge544, change your resolution?
[04:16] <Gorge544> alright
[04:16] <hexion> I have a wireless connection at home. In windows, it connects automaticly when I start session... but not in ubuntu since I dist-upgraded from hoary. Anyone knows the solution????
[04:16] <jackmacokc> gorge544, whats it set at?
[04:17] <Gorge544> 1024, 768
[04:17] <jackmacokc> gorge544, does your monitor not support 1024x768? Maybe you need to adjust the monitor
[04:18] <IQ-User> i did install sl-modem an sl-modem-source and istall with module assistant the modules but the damn modem does not work????????????????????
[04:18] <stainzed> hi guys
[04:18] <Gorge544> It supports higher than that
[04:18] <hexion> I have a wireless connection at home. In windows, it connects automaticly when I start session... but not in ubuntu since I dist-upgraded from hoary. Anyone knows the solution????
[04:18] <benoit_> nickrud: but I must add stable testing or unstable ??
[04:18] <IQ-User> the monitor migh use i810 and need the pach at startup
[04:18] <jackmacokc> hi stainzed
[04:18] <nickrud> benoit_, yeah, I wouldn't add those repos to ubuntu; I haven't used module-assistant myself, but if it's asking for debian repos it probably hasn't been altered for ubuntu
[04:19] <IQ-User> use the 855G deb
[04:19] <benoit_> nickrud: ok, but stable, testing or unstable ?
[04:19] <jackmacokc> hexion, you're using ndiswrapper?
[04:19] <jcaine> Is there anyway I can reduce the bass for all sound?
[04:20] <nickrud> benoit_, good question :)
[04:20] <server_newbie> I am having big trouble installling apache2 on my ubuntu server. I have installed, removed, & reinstalled and the only thing in the /etc/apache2 dir is mods-available. how do I get a good install?
[04:20] <lord_drachenblut> anyone know how to get a usb headset working?
[04:20] <hexion> jackmacokc, no..  normal drivers
[04:20] <benoit_> nickrud: :)
[04:20] <benoit_> gonna try stable at first
[04:21] <IQ-User> i did install sl-modem an sl-modem-source and istall with module assistant the modules but the damn modem does not work????????????????????
[04:21] <lord_drachenblut> i believe the headset is working but i can't get any programs to record from it
[04:21] <jackmacokc> hexion, what kind of card
[04:21] <Storkme> how can i get superuser privilege?
[04:21] <nickrud> benoit_, I'd be scared to death about adding those repos; do apt-get install --simulate on every usage while those repos are enabled
[04:21] <Storkme> how can i get superuser privilege?
[04:21] <Storkme> err, sorry for the double post
[04:21] <lonewolff> Storkme: use sudo before the command
[04:21] <Seveas> Storkme, sudo
[04:21] <_jason> Storkme, use sudo and your password when it asks
[04:21] <hexion> pci wifi card, 802.11g
[04:22] <jackmacokc> hexion, what brand/chipset
[04:22] <lord_drachenblut> i thought sudo was for root
[04:22] <jackmacokc> sudo = super user do
[04:22] <hexion> I don't remember... what was the command to see it?
[04:22] <Seveas> root is the superuser
[04:22] <Storkme> odd!
[04:22] <lonewolff> root/superuser are the same thing
[04:22] <Storkme> "dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[04:22] <Storkme> "
[04:22] <benoit_> nickrud: ok
[04:22] <lord_drachenblut> storkme do you have synaptic running
[04:22] <Storkme> yes
[04:23] <ZiX> ...
[04:23] <ZiX> where's the ubuntu bot?
[04:23] <lonewolff> Storkme: do you have apt-get or a graphical package manager already running?
[04:23] <hexion> jackmacokc, brand is "connection n&c"  chipset Texas Instruments
[04:23] <Storkme> not that i know
[04:23] <lonewolff> (you can only run one of them at a time)
[04:23] <Storkme> i'm running firefox, terminal, xchat, and file browser
[04:23] <lord_drachenblut> storkme kill synaptic and try the command prompt again
[04:23] <Storkme> ok it works now
[04:23] <lord_drachenblut> i had the same problem storkme
[04:23] <jackmacokc> hexion, sounds generic...who knows man. i know some chipsets were borked when breezy came around. yours could be one...
[04:24] <ZiX> how to get gij into the browser?
[04:24] <Storkme> does linux have envornmental variables?
[04:24] <hexion> jackmacokc, ok thanks for the info... I think I'll have to wait for the solution with apt-get upgrade
[04:24] <Seveas> Storkme, yes
[04:24] <jackmacokc> hexion, check the forums..thats where you'll find some good info
[04:24] <lord_drachenblut> i guess no one can help me with a usb headset
[04:25] <pablo> hola
[04:25] <hexion> jackmacokc, yes.. I've been looking since a couple months.. it seems there's no solution right now :(
[04:25] <rambo3> i have installed alsa and made /etc/modutils/alsa and loaded driver with update-modules. But i still get no soundcards found when i run alsamixer . can you help?
[04:25] <Storkme> odd, i just installed java like the Ubuntu FAQ Guide said, but when I do "java -version" it doesn't show me the version that i downloaded
[04:25] <ZiX> how to get java?
[04:26] <spike> hi there
[04:26] <lord_drachenblut> rambo doubt anyone in here can been asking about a usb headset and know can be bothered to say anything
[04:26] <meheren> apt-getinstall java
[04:26] <spike> anybody using moinmoin on ubuntu?
[04:26] <Storkme> ZiX, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html
[04:26] <nickrud> Storkme, did you do sudo update-alternatives --config java ?
[04:26] <Storkme> i did not, what does it do?
[04:26] <pablo> hola
[04:27] <nickrud> Storkme, it allows you to select from the different java versions installed on your computer; you need to run that when you install java
[04:27] <whaley> question about directories, by convention what are /opt and /usr/local meant to be used for?
[04:27] <hexion> jackmacokc, I go... thanks for your help :)
[04:27] <hexion> bye
[04:27] <Storkme> nickrud, thanks, you're a legend
[04:27] <pc22> lord_drachenblut, any option?
[04:27] <crov> Storkme,  i posted which link i use to install latest java *update6, i posted everthing why dont you read it/look
[04:27] <ZiX> my browser can't load that page, stock
[04:27] <ZiX> Storkme*
[04:27] <meheren> how can i get opera on ubuntu?
[04:28] <djk_> meheren: by downloading it?
[04:28] <crov> Storkme, btw here java working just fine, first time sucess to install,
[04:28] <djk_> meheren: and then installing it?
[04:28] <rudiz> in the wiki is an instruction...you have to look for opera-browser
[04:28] <MikeG> Help. Just hooked up a new monitor on my Ubuntu box. What command reconfigures X for available frequency and resolution for new monitor?
[04:28] <jackmacokc> hexion, sure..sorry i couldnt help more
[04:28] <ZiX> MikeG: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:28] <ZiX> :o
[04:28] <sorush21> I need to rest my init to its default setting is there a way?
[04:28] <dezot> is there somebody who could help me with the configuration of a Samsung LCD TV?
[04:28] <pantz> i am trying to change my screen resolution but it seems it is not xorg.conf that sets resolution anymore - anyone have any ideas?
[04:28] <MikeG> Zix Thank you.
[04:29] <gnomefreak> MikeG, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:29] <ZiX> yw :P
[04:29] <whaley> meheren, automatix has the ability to install opera for you: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80295&highlight=opera
[04:29] <whaley> meheren, I can't vouch for it though because I haven't used it yet
[04:29] <djk_> meheren: go to opera.com, download the deb for ubuntu breezy , open a terminal, sudo dpkg -i opera-whatever-the-entire-name-is.deb
[04:29] <jackmacokc> pantz, are you using fglrx?
[04:29] <pantz> jackmacokc, no just the nv for now
[04:29] <lord_drachenblut> pc22 options for what?
[04:30] <Storkme_> when i go on synaptic and download a file, often it tells me i need to download a few more. is that normal?
[04:30] <jackmacokc> pantz, i think you are using xorg..you sure you arent? or did you just not see any results after changing it?
[04:30] <pantz> i ran  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and was able to add the 1152x864 to my xorg.conf - but the resolution preference doesn't show it
[04:30] <pc22> for the ubuntu networking
[04:30] <jackmacokc> did you run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:30] <pantz> jackmacokc, sorry yeah i am using xorg
[04:31] <lord_drachenblut> pc22 i am pretty damn new at this myself or else i would be having issues getting a usb headset working
[04:31] <pantz> jackmacokc, yeah i did
[04:31] <jackmacokc> hmm
[04:31] <dale> hello people
[04:31] <Storkme_> hmm, i've never seen an ssl irc server before
[04:31] <jackmacokc> pantz, not sure..assuming you write the changes, you should be able to reboot and get that res
[04:32] <pantz> my xorg.conf has the 1152x864 mode for all bitrates? and i ctrl-alt-backspaced out of X to restart
[04:32] <jackmacokc> pantz, its been my experience you have to restart completely to get resolution changes to take
[04:32] <pantz> jackmacokc, i shouldn't need to reboot should i?
[04:32] <whaley> Storkme_,  that is normal... most programs you need to install have dependancies on other files/programs/libraries
[04:32] <pantz> jackmacokc, ok i will try that - hang on
[04:32] <Storkme_> cool, thanks whaley
[04:32] <jackmacokc> pantz, yes - i would..
[04:33] <reagleBRKLN> Kubuntu 5.10 tries to automount sda1 *and* sda http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=4d0816337600dc509d3bf4fda94ea31b&p=539325#post539325
[04:33] <reagleBRKLN> Unlike most problems where folks have trouble with the automount, I have too much of a good thing. I have an external single primary partition ext3 formatted usb drive. (At one point I had formatted it without a partition even (just the whole disk) and perhaps that confused it?) Can I tell automount not to worry about /dev/sda and just focus on /dev/sda1?
[04:33] <hoopdr> hi are there any phonebook programs for gnome?
[04:33] <Cityismine> Are any of you here web designers, can you tell me which book I should get to learn htmal & web design in general
[04:34] <Storkme_> i have a problem while installing mysql. here's what the terminal said: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5336
[04:34] <sorush21> !gmail
[04:34] <ubotu> sorush21: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[04:34] <bolrod> good evening
[04:34] <jackmacokc> hey xester
[04:34] <appletree> hi@all
[04:34] <sorush21> guys why does my boot up hang and fail?
[04:35] <bolrod> I dont know
[04:35] <xester> hi
[04:35] <jackmacokc> no idea
[04:35] <bolrod> it doesn't like you?
[04:35] <jackmacokc> what did you do to it :)
[04:35] <SockerFot> okay guys
[04:35] <hoopdr> ohayo gozimass
[04:35] <SockerFot> i have a major problem
[04:35] <SockerFot> my root password isnt working
[04:35] <jackmacokc> that work pantz?
[04:35] <bolrod> thats no problem
[04:35] <pantz> jackmacokc, nope :(
[04:35] <SockerFot> bolrod, not?
[04:36] <linkd> SockerFot: you dont have a root password, its disabled to start with.
[04:36] <jackmacokc> hmm
[04:36] <bolrod> try sudo
[04:36] <bolrod> ?
[04:36] <pantz> SubSection "Display"
[04:36] <linkd> SockerFot: try sudo, use ur regular account password
[04:36] <pantz>                 Depth           24
[04:36] <pantz>                 Modes           "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[04:36] <pantz>         EndSubSection
[04:36] <bolrod> holy crap.. I dont need to kow xorg.conf
[04:36] <bolrod> :p
[04:36] <SockerFot> linkd, i am. how do i get higher authentication in the terminal?
[04:36] <loic___> hi
[04:36] <Stork> anyone??
[04:36] <djk_> bolrod: but it's essential :p
[04:36] <loic___> anybody know how to tell iptables not to log everything but only the droped packets?
[04:36] <Stork> i have a problem while installing mysql. here's what the terminal said: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5336
[04:36] <jackmacokc> yeah, that looks ok i think
[04:36] <erUSUL> pantz, do not paste here please
[04:36] <erUSUL> !pastebin
[04:36] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[04:36] <pantz> this is what i have but the resolution preference dialog only shows 1024x768 and lower
[04:36] <linkd> SockerFot: sudo command. so like.. to open a file as root: sudo vim /etc/fstab
[04:37] <pantz> erUSUL, sorry - i figure 4 lines would be ok
[04:37] <SockerFot> linkd, i dont understand anything :/
[04:37] <pantz> figured ...
[04:37] <bolrod> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[04:37] <jackmacokc> YGM pantz, i usually reboot and no problems
[04:37] <io_> lento
[04:37] <SockerFot> linkd, how do i authenticate myself. i am trying to install Azureus. it says i need "superuserauthentication" or something like that
[04:37] <linkd> SockerFot: okok. say you wanted to execute a command as root, you type "sudo thecommand" where thecommand == the command you want to run as root
[04:37] <erUSUL> pantz, this is a very crowded room. even 4 lines are too much ;)
[04:38] <erUSUL> SockerFot, with sudo
[04:38] <pantz> ok
[04:38] <SockerFot> ok but tell me how
[04:38] <djk_> SockerFot: sudo dpkg -i azureus.deb
[04:38] <io_> sudo link
[04:38] <linkd> SockerFot: once you run that itll ask for your password.
[04:38] <linkd> SockerFot: just run the command with sudo prefixed..
[04:38] <Tedd> Urg.
[04:38] <Tedd> My head.
[04:38] <Tedd> paulproteus here?
[04:38] <paulproteus> Tedd: Yes.
[04:38] <SockerFot> linkd, ok now it seems to work
[04:38] <Tedd> ....What's wrong with you.
[04:38] <pantz> jackmacokc, maybe i should install the nvidia drivers
[04:38] <paulproteus> Have to leave in a few minutes, though, say five.
[04:38] <Tedd> I talked to you at two in the morning.
[04:38] <linkd> SockerFot: cool
[04:39] <Tedd> It's 10:30 now.
[04:39] <hoopdr> ffffffffff
[04:39] <Tedd> Do you sleep? You should sleep.
[04:39] <jackmacokc> pantz, hah..yeah that might help. might not support that resolution natively
[04:39] <pantz> yeah
[04:39] <pantz> do you know which packages i need for that?
[04:39] <paulproteus> Tedd: I went to sleep between the two. (-:
[04:39] <Tedd> :X
[04:39] <jackmacokc> pantz, fglrx i think will do it..let me see
[04:39] <bolrod> I could run 1280x1024 without nvidia drivers...
[04:39] <Tedd> Anyways, I still have that pastebinning of the error. Wan't it?
[04:40] <SockerFot> linkd, no, now it says it cant reach the archive
[04:40] <jackmacokc> pantz, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074&highlight=nvidia+driver
[04:40] <pantz> jackmacokc, thats for ati
[04:40] <pantz> jackmacokc, thanks alot fory your help
[04:40] <jackmacokc> pantz, nvidia-glx is for nvidia
[04:41] <djk_> SockerFot: you have a tar.gz don't you?
[04:41] <SockerFot> linkd, fuck this shit. it says it cant reach catalog
[04:41] <jackmacokc> sure thing pantz, i'm a master of ubuntuforums search function :)
[04:41] <SockerFot> djk_, no i have a deb.
[04:41] <Murrlin> g'morning.
[04:41] <bolrod> maybe you want to try the .tar.gz of azureus
[04:41] <bolrod> :)
[04:41] <SockerFot> dpkg -i azureus_2.3.0.4-3_all.deb this is the command im supposed to write
[04:41] <SockerFot> but it says it cant find the catalog
[04:41] <bolrod> sudo dpkg -i az....................................
[04:41] <[matrim] > hello.
[04:42] <Murrlin> I'm having a bit of trouble getting firestarter and d4x to run at startup/login (and minimized to the system area of the taskbar)
[04:42] <djk_> SockerFot: did you install the dependencies mentioned on the wikipage?
[04:42] <[matrim] > does anyone know of an achive handler that can handle .rar filesin split format? (r01 r02....)
[04:42] <SockerFot> djk_, yeah, but i didnt find the first one though
[04:42] <djk_> [matrim] : unrar
[04:42] <bolrod> rar and unrar ?
[04:42] <bolrod> :)
[04:42] <jackmacokc> murrlin, whats the issue
[04:42] <SockerFot> j2re1.4 that one i didnt find
[04:42] <bolrod> pfff
[04:42] <[matrim] > djk_, how do I order it to search for the next file in a serie then?
[04:42] <jackmacokc> murrlin, did you set it to use the tray in firestarter prefs?
[04:43] <bolrod> you can't run azureus without java
[04:43] <Murrlin> for d4x, it runs on startup but (ok get back to that one) and firestarter, won't start, 'no root privs'
[04:43] <djk_> [matrim] : you just do unrar e *.rar ;) or unrar x *.rar
[04:43] <Murrlin> let me look in the menu to see how it works there
[04:43] <bolrod> unrar is not in the standard repos. right?
[04:43] <Dex-Freudii> my bad bad memory, made me forget the name of the person who was helping me out with gqcam
[04:43] <bolrod> wasn't it in universe or something
[04:43] <djk_> SockerFot: azureus depends on the JVM. preferably 1.5
[04:44] <soundray> Dex-Freudii, I'm here.
[04:44] <bolrod> 1.5 is faster then 1.4
[04:44] <SockerFot> djk_,  whats jvm?
[04:44] <bolrod> java virtual machine
[04:44] <djk_> SockerFot: java virtual machine
[04:44] <jackmacokc> hmm, thats weird murrlin. not sure on that, sorry. i installed from the repos and it worked without a hitch
[04:44] <Storkme_> java virtual machine
[04:44] <Storkme_> i have a problem while installing mysql. here's what the terminal said: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5336
[04:44] <SockerFot> djk_, and where do i find it?
[04:44] <Storkme_> SockerFot, java.sun.com
[04:44] <SockerFot> yeah but thats another problem
[04:44] <jackmacokc> murrlin, wait - are you trying to start the GUI at startup or the daemon?
[04:44] <SockerFot> first i need the terminal to install the .deb file right?
[04:44] <djk_> Storkme: a deb will be easier for him than a bin....
[04:44] <bolrod>  /etc/init.d/mysql start ?
[04:45] <hoopdr> hello computer
[04:45] <Tedd> okay. paulproteus I'm gonna try anuse this tutorial i've found. I'll get back here with results. Thank you sooo much for your help, drop me a line on AIM sometime (Amisfitintime) and if you need hosting I'll help you out.
[04:45] <Tedd> Later.
[04:45] <Storkme_> djk_, fair enough
[04:45] <djk_> SockerFot:
[04:45] <djk_> deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu breezy java
[04:45] <Storkme_> i have a problem while installing mysql. i'm using the guide on the ubuntu install manual. here's what the terminal said: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5336
[04:45] <djk_> add that line to your /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:45] <djk_> and sudo apt-get update
[04:45] <kbrooks> um
[04:45] <BufordTJustice> anyone had itunes running on ubuntu 5.10
[04:45] <BufordTJustice> ?
[04:46] <kbrooks> djk_, that is an unofficial repo
[04:46] <djk_> kbrooks: and?
[04:46] <jackmacokc> sockerfot, yes use the terminal
[04:46] <Storkme_> please someone help :|
[04:47] <[matrim] > djk_, that would work if it's slit as many .rar files, but the file is split as .rar + .r01-.r48
[04:47] <djk_> kbrooks: i don't remember seeing the jdk1.5 in any official repo..
[04:47] <Storkme_> pleeeeaaase??
[04:47] <sorush20> guys is there program that can backup my files to gmail ?
[04:47] <djk_> [matrim] : just extract the foo.rar, it should detect the rest.
[04:47] <SockerFot> djk_, and what to do when iv'e downloaded that?
[04:48] <jackmacokc> storkme, sounds like its not running
[04:48] <rambo3> can i reinstall ubuntu from scratch?
[04:48] <Storkme_> jackmacokc, how do i run it ?
[04:48] <rambo3> with apt
[04:48] <[matrim] > djk_, tried, it fails once the .rar file is done. same for all split archives
[04:48] <Storkme_> just execute it?
[04:48] <sorush20> guys I still can't fix the problem please help .. I don't even know what is going on.. what does it mean when the boot hangs and fails freezes?
[04:48] <jackmacokc> probably need to restart it storkme_
[04:48] <jackmacokc> probably under /etc/init.d/
[04:48] <djk_> SockerFot: after you did apt-get install whatever/the/name/of/the/java/package/is you can install azureus.
[04:49] <SockerFot> djk_, ???
[04:49] <jackmacokc> storkme_ http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=96393&highlight=restart+mysql
[04:49] <SockerFot> djk_, what to do when iv'e downloaded the file that you linked to
[04:49] <djk_> SockerFot: oh, you just downloaded a deb from there?
[04:49] <Murrlin> ok brb trying.
[04:50] <SockerFot> djk_, yeah
[04:50] <djk_> SockerFot: and it's the proper one for breezy?
[04:50] <SockerFot> eh, there where like five files there and idownloaded the biggest one
[04:50] <DADE> una pregunta
[04:51] <DADE> soy nuevo en ubuntu
[04:51] <DADE> para entrar a irc-hispano.org como hago?
[04:51] <ubuntu_> how do I tell grub from where to load stage2?
[04:51] <Dr_AceL> dr_strangelove, here?
[04:51] <[matrim] > djk_, found the error, ungraded to unrar-nonfree
[04:51] <DADE> ow can i connect to irc-hispano.org?
[04:51] <djk_> SockerFot: but it is for the ubuntu version you are using, right?
[04:51] <yesori> #freebsd
[04:52] <ogg> will ubuntu breezy work fine on my ibm thinkpad t41?
[04:52] <ubuntu_> ogg, try live CD ;)
[04:52] <K_Dallas> ogg: the best to find out is to grasp the liveCD and try it on your thinkpad
[04:52] <DADE> please
[04:52] <djk_> [matrim] : ah, yea, also, if you have ace files, go to the winace site and get their linux-unace, the repo unace is crap
[04:52] <DADE> how can i connect to irc-hispano.org?
[04:52] <Storkme> jackmacokc, how can i run mysql?
[04:52] <ubuntu_> DADE, the same way you connected HERE
[04:52] <deluxe> hey
[04:52] <deluxe> its me again
[04:52] <[matrim] > djk_, thanks, will do
[04:53] <djk_> [matrim] : no problem :)
[04:53] <ubuntu_> How do I tell grub where to look for stage2?
[04:53] <SockerFot> djk_, hey man i think it worked
[04:53] <deluxe> now i got my sound but my tvcard does play tv but not the audio :/
[04:53] <soundray> DADE, it depends on your IRC client. Why don't you /join #ubuntu-es first, though.
[04:53] <ogg> livecd. youre right.
[04:53] <deluxe> can someone help??
[04:53] <DADE> my client is X-Chat
[04:53] <SockerFot> djk_, i just didnt write the right things or something
[04:53] <K_Dallas> deluxe, be patient
[04:53] <soundray> ubuntu_, you don't have to. It looks for it in /boot/grub/ by default.
[04:53] <djk_> SockerFot: that's good then :)
[04:53] <djk_> SockerFot: yeah, you should be careful with what you write...
[04:53] <deluxe> ugh
[04:53] <deluxe> is there a german channel here?
[04:54] <jackmacokc> storkme, try the services administration panel
[04:54] <deFrysk> !de
[04:54] <ubotu> hmm... de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[04:54] <djk_> !de
[04:54] <K_Dallas> ubuntu-de?
[04:54] <deluxe> !de
[04:54] <K_Dallas> yeah ;)
[04:54] <djk_> damn you deFrysk :p
[04:54] <deFrysk> ;p
[04:54] <SockerFot> djk_, i had to write like /home/sockerFot/etcetera but i didnt understand that at first :D
[04:54] <deluxe> thx
[04:54] <DADE> i did the same way but it tells me irc-hispano.org doesn exist
[04:54] <deFrysk> !es
[04:54] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:55] <DADE> ubotu, ok grax, mirare ayi
[04:55] <ubotu> DADE: No idea
[04:55] <deFrysk> lol
[04:55] <Storkme> jackmacokc, it says that mysql is already running
[04:55] <DADE> ok thanks
[04:55] <DADE> bye
[04:56] <Storkme> jackmacokc, nevermind, it works now
[04:56] <Storkme> thanks
[04:56] <jackmacokc> storkme, hold on..i'll install mysql real quick so i can tell you
[04:56] <jackmacokc> oh ok
[04:56] <Storkme> thanks very much
[04:56] <Storkme> but it's good now :)
[04:56] <Murrlin> ok d4x is fine. but I still can't get firestarter to run on startup
[04:57] <SockerFot> djk_, YEAH MAN I FINALLY INSTALLED IT! woooaaaaaha. yeees!
[04:57] <Murrlin> the same line that's used in the menu, only gives gksudo help instead of running anything
[04:57] <ubuntu_> soundray, how does it know where / is?
[04:57] <djk_> SockerFot: goody :)
[04:57] <xored> what FS types are possible for CDRMs / DVDS ? iso9960
[04:58] <SockerFot> djk_, damned, i didnt install the right javah
[04:58] <soundray> When you run grub-install, it assumes / is on the partition that is mounted on / if you see what I mean.
[04:58] <deFrysk> xored, use auto
[04:58] <djk_> SockerFot: what did you install?
[04:59] <meheren> how can i get opera on ubuntu?
[04:59] <ubuntu_> my prob: I got my root partition on /dev/hda8, a windows part. on /dev/hda1, I deleted the win part. and copied /dev/hda8 via gparted to /dev/hda1... I removed the bootflag of /dev/hda8, and enabled it on /dev/hda1. Ichrooted to /dev/hda1 and made grub-install hd0, but now when grub stats, it just says "loading grub stage 2" and then it stucks... can anyone help? (I just want to move my root partition)
[04:59] <djk_> meheren: by reading what i said earlier!
[04:59] <deFrysk> !opera
[04:59] <ubotu> Opera isn't in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and get then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[04:59] <mannyman> newbie says: I cannot enable root for sudo commands anymore. I'm locked out ... H E E E L L L P P P
[05:00] <ramza3> anybody know why a thinkpad would lose eth0 as a device and hence eth0 is not found.  The device manager has the card recoginized
[05:00] <meheren> ok thx
[05:00] <linuxgeek2> sudo su -root
[05:00] <linuxgeek2> does'nt that work
[05:00] <jackmacokc> murrlin, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=96951&highlight=gksudo+startup
[05:00] <mannyman> says I'm not authorized for sudo commands anymore
[05:01] <mannyman> like I said ... locked out
[05:01] <mifritscher> hmm
[05:01] <SockerFot> okay
[05:01] <mannyman> please help .. this newbie just installed and is having a very bad first experience
[05:01] <SockerFot> how to install/open a .bin file?
[05:01] <SockerFot> what command?
[05:01] <mifritscher> you must du it with the user you have created during installation
[05:01] <mannyman> I have !
[05:02] <mifritscher> hmpf
[05:02] <mifritscher> are you in the group admin?
[05:02] <mifritscher> it's in /etc/groups
[05:02] <SockerFot> djk_, hey
[05:02] <mannyman> can't see ... no way
[05:02] <damp> i hate people
[05:02] <deFrysk> SockerFot, depends on what file it is
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> I hate .bin files. :P
[05:03] <jackmacokc> storkme, FYI - to restart that daemon is 'sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart'
[05:03] <Stork> ah, thanks
[05:03] <mannyman> newbie says: I cannot enable root for sudo commands anymore. I'm locked out ... H E E E L L L P P P
[05:03] <mannyman> says I'm not authorized for sudo commands anymore
[05:03] <mannyman> please help .. this newbie just installed and is having a very bad first experience
[05:03] <_jason> mannyman, did you ever have sudo access?
[05:03] <jackmacokc> stork, most things are that way... /etc/init.d/daemonname restart
[05:04] <mannyman> look I installed before just fine
[05:04] <mannyman> but when I install using expert and configure root account thsi ALWAYS happens
[05:04] <ompaul> mannyman, sudo and use your own password
[05:04] <mannyman> trust me it's a bug
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> then file a bug report.
[05:05] <deFrysk> mannyman, stop using expert when installing ubuntu it server no purpose
[05:05] <mannyman> sure, now is there any way to get root again ?
[05:05] <deFrysk> serves*
[05:05] <jackmacokc> mannyman, chill out....do a regular install not expert
[05:05] <mannyman> yes it does for me
[05:05] <ramza3> how can I renable eth0
[05:05] <jackmacokc> ramza3, go to the network admin panel
[05:06] <deFrysk> !tell mannyman about root
[05:06] <Stork> where does XChat log to?
[05:06] <ramza3> jackmacokc, I have network settings open, but only the modem is found, yet my device manager has the ethernet card
[05:06] <coz> hello all
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> or is the 'server' install called an 'expert' install.. or did i totally Miss any referance to an 'expert' install just 10 min ago when i started installing 5.10 on my other machine.
[05:07] <Tedd|X> AUGH.
[05:07] <Tedd|X> This is a pain.
[05:07] <mannyman> sure, I've read the manual, now is there any way to get root again ?
[05:07] <coz> there is a url "www.linuxquestions.org" that requires a password but how would I get there?  andyone know about this site?
[05:07] <Dex-Freudii> hi... I'm trying to make my Ezonics webcam run on ubuntu, but I can't
[05:07] <Tedd|X> Can anybody tell me how to change my permissions so I can delete /lib/ from usr/local?
[05:07] <HighHopes> For other who could possibly help me too... I'm having the following problem: I made an Ubuntu fresh install without Xorg.. just console. Then I installed Xorg and all worked fine with several Window Managers and Desktops ... but Fluxbox is loading very slow at startup :(
[05:07] <soundray> Guys, can you please help. Dex-Freudii wants to get his USB camera to work. It should be supported  by cpia.
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> mannyman,  cant 'sudo' at all?
[05:08] <jackmacokc> ramza3, hmm..is it not listed in ifconfig?
[05:08] <_jason> Tedd|X, you would use sudo if you wanted to do that
[05:08] <coz> well you can change permission or ownership
[05:08] <Dex-Freudii> should I create by hand /dev/video0?
[05:08] <mannyman> exactly !
[05:08] <Tedd|X> _jason: How do I delete with sudo
[05:08] <Dex-Freudii> should I load by hand the kernel modules?
[05:08] <Tedd|X> sudo what
[05:08] <coz> chmod for permissions and chown for ownership
[05:08] <Stork> how come my file broswer doesn't show me /home/alex/.xchat2 even though i KNOW the directory exists?
[05:08] <deFrysk> Tedd|X, why would you delete that ?
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> mannyman,  boot to single user mode and set the password perhaps.
[05:08] <_jason> Tedd|X, the rm command deletes a files
[05:08] <_jason> Tedd|X, sudo rm file
[05:08] <mannyman> ok, how do I do that (you mean recovery mode?)
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> Stork,  .whatever = hidden files.  with a . in front
[05:09] <Tedd|X> So I could do
[05:09] <jackmacokc> stork, ctrl-H shows hidden files
[05:09] <Tedd|X> sudo rm /lib/
[05:09] <Tedd|X> or just sudo rm lib
[05:09] <ramza3> jackmacokc, ifconfig says device not found.  Yet it worked last night(oops that was before I did an ubuntu update)
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> mannyman,  similer,, or at the grub menu, append 'single' to the end of the kernel= options
[05:09] <_jason> Tedd|X, to rm a directory you need recursive: sudo rm -r directory ; MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DELETING
[05:09] <deFrysk> Tedd|X, would be a rm -rf in that case
[05:09] <mannyman> ok, I'll try
[05:09] <mannyman> what command though ?
[05:09] <CPUFreak91> I get an error from Totem whenever I try to play an *.mp4
[05:10] <Tedd|X> -r or -rf
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> mannyman,  ugh.. 'passwd' is the command to set the passwords
[05:10] <soundray> When you plugin a USB device, what part of Ubuntu is responsible for loading the correct kernel driver?
[05:10] <CPUFreak91> It says something about a bug but nothing else... very helpful... sorry
[05:10] <_jason> Tedd|X, read man rm for the details
[05:10] <deFrysk> !tell CPUFreak91 about resticted formats
[05:10] <Tedd|X> ...?
[05:10] <CPUFreak91> I have the mp4 libraries
[05:10] <_jason> Tedd|X, type: man rm
[05:10] <CPUFreak91> and lame and faad and faac
[05:11] <deFrysk> Tedd|X, dont remove anything as root when clueless
[05:11] <Quistis> ellow, does anyone use the Symbios logic SYM20403 scsi card (or any other sym53c416 chipset cards)?
[05:11] <root__> hey
[05:11] <ramza3> I think the upgrade did my eth0 wrong
[05:11] <soundray> Stork, it should work if you load file:///home/alex/.xchat2/
[05:11] <root__> dose any one know how i can get shout cast on ubuntu?
[05:12] <deFrysk> root__,  are you root ?
[05:12] <bluefoxicy> messages every channel
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> deFrysk,  yes he is.
[05:12] <CPUFreak91> BTW, why doesn't Ubuntu come with  Xine?
[05:12] <root__> no i just didnt specify a user name and that come up
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> CPUFreak91,  'legal' issues most likely
[05:12] <ikor> root__: heh, od apt-cache search shoutcast
[05:12] <deFrysk> CPUFreak91, sudo apt-get install xine
[05:13] <CPUFreak91> ahh
[05:13] <ikor> ha
[05:13] <anatole> anyone successfully using cdfs on breezy?
[05:13] <CPUFreak91> @deFrysk: Stupid winmodems... force me to use WIndows for any internet.
[05:15] <xiaogil> Is it possible to connect via WIFI two laptops that have basic WIFI cards ?
[05:15] <ubuntu_> my prob: I got my root partition on /dev/hda8, a windows part. on /dev/hda1, I deleted the win part. and copied /dev/hda8 via gparted to /dev/hda1... I removed the bootflag of /dev/hda8, and enabled it on /dev/hda1. Ichrooted to /dev/hda1 and made grub-install hd0, but now when grub stats, it just says "loading grub stage 2" and then it stucks... can anyone help? (I just want to move my root partition)
[05:16] <ramza3> hmm, /dev/eth0 doesnt even have a device there
[05:17] <root__> can you get a shoutcast player for linux?
[05:17] <Tedd|X> _jason, deFrysk: So F would force it, and and R would remove it recursively. What does 'remove it recursively' mean? That it removes it if it sees it any time at all?
[05:18] <dagaren> xiaogil -> yes, it is possible
[05:18] <soundray> Guys, you plug a supported USB device, but the driver doesn't load. How to troubleshoot?
[05:21] <xiaogil> dagaren: is there a wiki somewhere to do that ?
[05:21] <Chris_Tucker> whats the command to turn an RPM into a tar.gz? for instance in gentoo its rpm2targz
[05:22] <soundray> Chris_Tucker, man alien
[05:22] <dagaren> xiaogil: one laptod wireless card should be configured as 'ad-hoc' and the other laptop card as 'managed'
[05:22] <HighHopes_> Oh.. I've got disconnected
[05:22] <Storkme> how come when i do "set" in terminal it doesn't show a value for java, but when i use the java command it works?
[05:22] <HighHopes_> this is the problem: http://pastebin.com/447311
[05:22] <Chris_Tucker> thanks soundray, figured that was it
[05:23] <Storkme> anyone?
[05:23] <ramza3> do I need to create a root user, should I?
[05:24] <Storkme> fgfdgfdge45645y
[05:24] <deFrysk> !tell Storkme about java
[05:24] <Chris_Tucker> ramza3, no, and no
[05:24] <debugger> hi
[05:24] <xiaogil> dagaren: can the network tool of ubuntu do that or do I need to do it via a terminal ?
[05:24] <rubem> hi there
[05:24] <bornxbackwards> how do I install a .tar in ubuntu
[05:25] <debugger> from what repo can I get the bison package?
[05:25] <keythumper> ramza3, I did this:  sudo su -  and then did passwd
[05:25] <rubem> i instaled the sun jre, but when i type "java" it is executet de gcj, who do i uninstall de gjc?
[05:25] <deFrysk> !info bison
[05:25] <ubotu> bison: (A parser generator that is compatible with YACC), section devel, is optional. Version: 1:2.0-1ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 285 kB, Installed size: 1104 kB
[05:25] <ramza3> keythumper, what is that doing, just giving a password to root
[05:25] <Chris_Tucker> bornxbackwards, a .tar cant be "installed" it depends on whats in that .tar
[05:25] <dagaren> xiaogil: well.. I don't know if there is a tool, I always do it via terminal... but it is very easy
[05:26] <Storkme> deFrysk, that doesn't really help
[05:26] <keythumper> ramza3, yes..   I am used to that way, (root having a passwd)
[05:26] <keythumper> ramza3, I am not used to sudo that is...
[05:26] <bornxbackwards> Chris_Tucker, yeah well, i want to compile VMware
[05:26] <bahblahblahbah> how do I delete a line from the middle of a file? programming that is...
[05:26] <dagaren> xiaogil: #iwconfig wlan0 mode ad-hoc                 wlan0 is the name of the device
[05:26] <trappist> bornxbackwards: you have the vmware source?
[05:26] <debugger> deFrysk, can you be more specific? :|
[05:26] <xiaogil> dagaren : could you give me the two commands to execute on both laptops to do that ?
[05:27] <bornxbackwards> Chris_Tucker, I downloaded the .tar.gz of VMware.com
[05:27] <Chris_Tucker> bornxbackwards, tar -xvf file.tar
[05:27] <dagaren> xiaogil: #iwconfig wlan0 mode managed
[05:27] <debugger> deFrysk, I don't yet have my network card working on where I have the ubuntu installed :|
[05:27] <Storkme> bahblahblahbah, depends on your language
[05:27] <trappist> bornxbackwards: tar zxf file.tar.gz
[05:27] <bahblahblahbah> Storkme c++
[05:27] <trappist> bornxbackwards: there's a difference between a .tar and a .tar.gz
[05:27] <Chris_Tucker> bornxbackwards that will extract it
[05:27] <Storkme> bahblahblahbah, in that case, #c++ ;)
[05:27] <ramza3> why do I care anyway, my internet doesnt work
[05:27] <Chris_Tucker> bornxbackwards, if its a .tar.gz then -zxvf instead of just -xvf
[05:28] <werneri> When booting Ubuntu Live cd, I don't get X started. What informations about my graphic card do I need in order to find out how to fix the problem?
[05:28] <debugger> deFrysk, nm.. I found http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/allpackages
[05:28] <dagaren> xiaogil: then you configure the ip direcction in the two laptops
[05:28] <werneri> Note that I tried loading Knoppix 2.1 (from 2001!!) and it loaded X without any problem
[05:28] <dagaren> xiaogil: and the gateway in the 'managed' laptop
[05:28] <xiaogil> dagaren: ip direction ?
[05:29] <soundray> werneri, first thing to do is to play with the boot options (F2, F3... before kernel boots)
[05:29] <werneri> soundray: what kind of options? have any idea?
[05:29] <dagaren> xiaogil: yes, something like this: #ifconfig wlan0 192.168.1.2
[05:30] <soundray> werneri, framebuffer and resolution-related options. They are documented.
[05:30] <bornxbackwards> then I used to ./configure, make, make install, but it doens't work
[05:30] <ramza3> ok question, I have lspci | grep Eth and find something, but when I do; dmesg | grep eth ... I get nothing ..eth0 not working
[05:30] <werneri> soundray: Is there any info I could take from the Knoppix output?
[05:31] <DrBair> I'm trying to rescue some data off a corrupt flash drive, I have a good amount of the data back but not quite everything.  Any suggested tools?
[05:31] <Dr_AceL> trying to install flash for firefox, what do I put for install dir?
[05:31] <werneri> soundray: it says: Unknown vendor|unknown device 1002:5e6b using XFree86(Vesa) Server
[05:31] <Dr_AceL> I tried /usr/lib/firefox and tells me not valid dir
[05:31] <soundray> werneri, as I say, it's a matter of playing around.
[05:32] <soundray> werneri, it's difficult to give detailed advice via IRC
[05:32] <werneri> soundray: ok, thanks. Will come back later
[05:32] <soundray> werneri good luck.
[05:32] <werneri> soundray: thx
[05:32] <ikor> ramza3: do sudo ifup eth0; /sbin/ifconfig|grep -ir eth0 . u will see, is eth0 is up or not
[05:33] <ortner> Hiho
[05:33] <ramza3> ikor, one sec; I will paste the results
[05:33] <ortner> How do i burn .mp3 on a music cd? it says that i dont have the right plugin
[05:33] <Tedd|X> paulproteus: still around?
[05:33] <deFrysk> ortner, with serpentine
[05:33] <dagaren> ortnet: serpentine
[05:34] <deFrysk> !tell ortner anout restrictedformats
[05:34] <ortner> deFrysk: yeah and gonomebaker, i get the same error. "not a suported file"
[05:34] <deFrysk> !tell ortner about restrictedformats
[05:34] <ramza3> oh yea, no internet cant do that
[05:34] <Tedd|X> Can anybody help me install Libnjb 2.2.4
[05:34] <Tedd|X> PLeeeeeeeaaase
[05:34] <deFrysk> ortner, read ubotu's message
[05:34] <rubem> How can I install skype?
[05:35] <Tedd|X> rubem: Automatix
[05:35] <ortner> deFrysk: thanks
[05:35] <deFrysk> !tell ruben about skype
[05:35] <rubem> Tedd|X ??
[05:35] <Tedd|X> rubem, do a search on Ubuntuforums.org for "automatix"
[05:35] <deFrysk> rubem, read ubotu's message
[05:35] <Tedd|X> !tell rubem about automatix
[05:35] <ramza3> ikor, this is part of the message: http://eugeneciurana.com/pastebin/pastebin.php?show=9106
[05:35] <deFrysk> Tedd|X, automatix is crap
[05:35] <Tedd|X> ?
[05:35] <Tedd|X> How so? I thought it worked pretty nicely
[05:36] <Tedd|X> Why hate it? Because it isn't supported by Ubuntu?
[05:36] <Stork> hmm
[05:36] <Tedd|X> It's a useful tool
[05:36] <deFrysk> Tedd|X, and what if it goes wrong with automatix ?
[05:36] <deFrysk> where do you complain ?
[05:36] <Tedd|X> This is true, but 's never happened to me so far.
[05:36] <deFrysk> Tedd|X, here perhaps ?
[05:36] <ramza3> ikor, it was working before I did an update yesterday
[05:36] <SockerFot> does anyone know any good gnome program to play audio in?
[05:36] <ortner> deFrysk: but i can listen to the mp3s using xmms, do is still need to download the package?
[05:37] <_jason> Tedd|X, with automatix you don't understand what is happening so you become dependent on tools like automatix.  The problem is when you want to do something more complicated you have no clue where to start.
[05:37] <MrGreen> Is there a 64 port of OO ?
[05:37] <Dr_AceL> SockerFot: I like xmms
[05:37] <SockerFot> ok
[05:37] <deFrysk> Tedd|X, stop using crap and dont advise anyone using crap like automatics or ubuntuguide stuff
[05:37] <ompaul> SockerFot, beep-media-player (bpm for short)
[05:37] <Tedd|X> THAT is why it's a good tool. It appeal to the (lazy) masses
[05:37] <Dr_AceL> not sure what that has to do with gnome
[05:37] <Frederick> Is there anybody in here that has some experience with boot loaders?
[05:37] <Tedd|X> It was just a suggestion. No need to get all psychotic on me.,
[05:37] <ikor> ramza3: did you get error messages when run 'sudo ifup eth0'?
[05:37] <Frederick> does changing harddrives matter for a boot loader?
[05:38] <Frederick> cause on my old hd my GRUB gave an error
[05:38] <Frederick> does switching hd's help by any chance?
[05:38] <egil> dagaren: sorry, i was disconnected...
[05:38] <ramza3> ikor: sit0, unknown hardware address type 776 ... failed to bring up eth0 http://eugeneciurana.com/pastebin/pastebin.php?show=9106
[05:38] <MrGreen> *bump*
[05:38] <Dr_AceL> anyone installed flash for firefox, I can't get it to accept the install dir
[05:38] <ramza3> how do I check the kernel version
[05:38] <_jason> Dr_AceL, it's in the repos
[05:38] <deFrysk> ortner, serpentine uses gstreamer so yes you need the gstreamer plugins
[05:38] <ompaul> ramza3, uname -a
[05:39] <Dr_AceL> _jason: repos?
[05:39] <Tedd|X> So  back to my original question; can anybody help me install Libnjb 2.2.4? I do the ./configure  and make and make install and ldconfig but I get a lot of 'permision denied' errors.
[05:39] <ramza3> hmm, is breezy 5.10 2.6.12 that is probably it
[05:39] <_jason> Dr_AceL, repositories, accessed through synaptic
[05:39] <dagaren> Tedd|X: do it as root
[05:39] <deFrysk> Tedd|X, sudo apt-get install build-esential
[05:39] <deFrysk> Tedd|X, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:39] <deFrysk> even
[05:39] <ramza3> ikor: I think my kernel update 2.6.12 foobarred my ethernet card
[05:39] <Dr_AceL> _jason: what's synaptic?
[05:39] <egil> dagaren: would you make a wiki to explain clearly how to connect directly two computers via wifi, like when direct connection via the ethernet port ?
[05:39] <ortner> deFrysk: i cant find it when im using apt-get install. and i have univers/multivers enabled
[05:40] <_jason> ubotu, tell Dr_AceL about synaptic
[05:40] <deFrysk> ortner, what can you not find ?
[05:41] <_jason> Dr_AceL, synaptic is the easiest and best way to install software on ubuntu, read the link ubotu sent you.  When you are done, let me know and I will show you how to enable the repo for flash
[05:41] <ikor> ramza3: so copy this error line, and past it to google. you will find answer just after few links.
[05:41] <Dr_AceL> _jason: ok reading that now, thanks
[05:41] <rikai> oh my, i do believe i've got some sort of firefox error.
[05:41] <ramza3> ikor: what error line
[05:41] <ortner> deFrysk: nope :/ it couldent find gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[05:41] <rikai> think it might have to do with a plugin, but i dont know which one.
[05:41] <deFrysk> ortner, apt-cache search gstreamer | grep gstreamer  , and see what you need
[05:42] <Tedd|X> dagaren: I hear that a crapload. HOW do I DO that!
[05:42] <deFrysk> ortner, and make sure to apt-get update
[05:42] <ikor> ramza3: sit0, unknown hardware address type 776 ... failed to bring up eth0
[05:42] <Frederick> is there a special channel for boot help with Ubuntu?
[05:43] <damotor> I'm trying to attach audio to a movie with cinelerra but it doesn't play it at the same time so is impossible to do it, what can I do?
[05:43] <dagaren> egil?
[05:43] <hoopdr> any phonebook programs for ubuntu?
[05:43] <Tedd|X> dagaren, how do I 'do it as root'?
[05:44] <deFrysk> ortner, gstreamer0.8-mad is the one you need for mp3 related
[05:44] <ikor> hoopdr:  apt-cache search phonebook ?
[05:44] <deFrysk> so install that and try serpentine again
[05:44] <ortner> deFrysk: yeah, i found it with synaptic
[05:44] <dagaren> Tedd|x: $sudo <commands>
[05:44] <deFrysk> ortner, ok :)
[05:44] <ortner> deFrysk: thanks alot :)
[05:44] <_jason> Tedd|X, use checkinstall with sudo instead
[05:44] <_jason> ubotu, tell Tedd|X about checkinstall
[05:45] <Frederick> anybody in here who can help me with some GRUB issues?
[05:45] <mark_d> hi, i have a file sharing question
[05:45] <Dr_AceL> _jason: libswfdec0.3
[05:45] <Dr_AceL> SWF (Macromedia Flash) decoder library <-- this?
[05:45] <Storkme_> how come i can use the "java" command from any dir while in the terminal, but the path isn't in the PATH variable when i use "set" ?
[05:45] <deFrysk> !grub
[05:45] <ubotu> grub is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[05:45] <egil> dagaren: egil=xiaogil
[05:45] <xiaogil_> dagaren: i'm xiaogil_ again now
[05:46] <Storkme_> anyone??
[05:46] <mark_d> i have a folder i want to share with a windows box.  windows can access it, but it asks for a username and password.  no matter what i put in, i can't access it.  any suggestions?
[05:46] <_jason> Dr_AceL, nope, the package name is flashplayer-mozilla, but you will need to enable the multiverse repository.  The universe and multiverse repos give you access to thousands of programs.  Ubotu will send you a link on how to enable them
[05:46] <_jason> ubotu, tell Dr_AceL about repos
[05:46] <Frederick> Thank you deFrysk, will read that
[05:47] <deFrysk> Frederick, good luck :)
[05:47] <Storkme_> how come i can use the "java" command from any dir while in the terminal, but the path isn't in the PATH variable when i use "set" ?
[05:47] <LoneWolf071> what is the program or service called that let's me switch terminals, (CTRL-ALT_F1)?
 Frederick, good luck :) << Im gonna need it :)
[05:47] <deFrysk> !tell Storkme_ about multijava
[05:48] <Frederick> last time i tried installing Ubuntu as dualboot it took me 2 days to recover the mbr :P
[05:48] <deFrysk> Storkme_, read ubotu's message
[05:48] <Frederick> wont take that much time this time though as i know how to get it back :P
[05:48] <Storkme_> DeFi, that's not even remotely relevant
[05:48] <deFrysk> yes it is
[05:48] <deFrysk> it set the path
[05:48] <deFrysk> sets
[05:49] <Storkme_> i just looked at the PATH and it's not there
[05:49] <_jason> Storkme_, type: which java.  You will see where that command is located
[05:49] <dagaren> xiaogil_: First, in one laptop
[05:49] <deFrysk> Stork, then you did not install java as suggeted in the wik
[05:49] <deFrysk> Storkme_, i mean
[05:49] <ikor> Storkme_: and add it to your PATH
[05:49] <deFrysk> dang typo's
[05:50] <Storkme_> odd, why is java in usr/bin/ ??
[05:50] <_jason> Storkme_, it is a link
[05:50] <dagaren> xiaogil_: #iwconfig wlan0 mode ad-hoc && ifconfig wlan0 192.168.0.1              /*change wlan0 with your card name*/
[05:50] <_jason> Storkme_, type: ls -l /usr/bin/java and see
[05:51] <dagaren> xiaogil: ??
[05:51] <LoneWolf071> what is the program or service called that let's me switch terminals, (CTRL-ALT_F1)?
[05:51] <Storkme> ok, i get it now
[05:51] <Dr_AceL> _jason: ok enabled the other repos, and searched for flash but didn't find the file you specified
[05:51] <_jason> Dr_AceL, did you press "reload"
[05:51] <Storkme> how can i make an executable link for javac.exe ? (it's in /home/alex/Programs/jdk/javac.exe)
[05:51] <erUSUL> LoneWolf071, init
[05:52] <Dr_AceL> _jason: yes
[05:52] <erUSUL> Storkme, why are you using the windows version of the java compiler??
[05:52] <_jason> Storkme, the ln command, read man ln.  Usually you will create symlinks: ln -s
[05:52] <ikor> Storkme: sudo ln -s /home/alex/Programs/jdk/javac.exe /usr/local/bin/
[05:52] <gnomefreak> is there a #C channel? :(
[05:53] <Storkme> erUSUL, i'm not
[05:53] <_jason> Dr_AceL, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please
[05:53] <_jason> !pastebin
[05:53] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[05:53] <Storkme> gnomefreak, ##c ...
[05:53] <ep> I would like the latest release version of the QT libraries QT 4.0.1  I now have version 4.0.0 (from Breezy repositores). Is there any option other than compiling?
[05:53] <mark_d> i have a folder i want to share with a windows box.  windows at least recognizes that it exists, but it asks for a username and password.  no matter what i put in, i can't get in to it.  any suggestions?
[05:53] <gnomefreak> ty Stork
[05:54] <Storkme> no problem darling
[05:54] <lysis> hello all.
[05:55] <lysis> in synaptic, what is the difference between "mark for removal" and "mark for COMPLETE removal"? does complete removal remove it's dependencies as well?  what if other programs need those dependencies too?
[05:55] <_jason> lysis, complete removes config files
[05:55] <ploum> For Belgian people :
[05:55] <ploum> People from Belgium :
[05:55] <ploum> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam
[05:55] <deFrysk> lysis, it removes the setting for that package also then
[05:55] <lysis> ahhhh . . .
[05:55] <erUSUL> lysis, it removes config files
[05:55] <lysis> excellent.
[05:56] <ep> "the setting for that package"?
[05:56] <lysis> i just switched from windows to ubuntu last week . . . still trying to get everything work.
[05:56] <Dr_AceL> _jason: for name do I put yours or mine?
[05:56] <Storkme> how do i become owner so i can delete three files in /usr/bin/ ?
[05:57] <_jason> Dr_AceL, you can put yours
[05:57] <erUSUL> Storkme, sudo rm file
[05:57] <deFrysk> sudo rm /path/to/file/
[05:57] <lysis> does anybody here use TeamSpeak, or know if i need to setup my soundblaster audigy a special way to make Mic input work properly other than with default drivers?
[05:57] <Rollaattori> hello everyone :)
[05:57] <chris_> Why cant I get images in my email (evolution) seems to be .gifs... I have no jpg to check with
[05:58] <chris_> no pics at all...
[05:58] <lysis> storkme, to become owner you would sudo chown [username]  [filename] 
[05:58] <blanky> there's no way I can navigate my ext2 partition from windows right? :(
[05:58] <deFrysk> chris_, change the prefs in evolution it defaults to not opening images (safer and for privacy)
[05:58] <Rollaattori> just switched to Ubuntu (my first linux)..so does anyone know is there any player that could handle WM9 codec?
[05:58] <_jason> blanky, google explore2fs
[05:58] <blanky> thanks
[05:59] <chris_> yes, windows has an add in for ext2 and 3 partitions... I also backed up a ReiserFS from XP once
[05:59] <lysis> rollaattori, i believe you just install the w32codecs
[05:59] <Tedd|X> okay.
[05:59] <Tedd|X> Now the Gnomad2 ./configure is telling me
[05:59] <Tedd|X> That I don't have gtk+-2.0
[05:59] <lysis> roll, go to www.ubuntuforums.org and search for AUTOMATIX   that got all of my immediate needs fixed.   i just installed ubuntu from windows last week; did a re-install last night and used automatix for the first time.
[05:59] <Rollaattori> lysis, thanks..google time :)
[06:00] <deFrysk> lysis, please dont advise automatix
[06:00] <Tedd|X> But when I go in Synaptic I do
[06:00] <lysis> sorry defrysk
[06:00] <lysis> well if you have your dependencies setup correctly in /etc/apt/sources.list you SHOULD see w32codecs.
[06:00] <lysis> defrysk, is there a reason i can't advise that program?
[06:00] <blanky> woow, explore2fs is sexy
[06:00] <deFrysk> !w32codecs
[06:00] <Dr_AceL> _jason: did you get it?
[06:01] <blanky> !w2codec
[06:01] <ubotu> blanky: Are you on ritalin?
[06:01] <blanky> maybe
[06:01] <blanky> !w32codec
[06:01] <mark_d> lol
[06:01] <blanky> who wanted to know about w32codecs?
[06:01] <_jason> Dr_AceL, you need to provice me with a link for it
[06:01] <Rollaattori> me
[06:01] <Dr_AceL> ahh
[06:01] <chris_> thanks feFrysk!
[06:01] <lysis> rollattori
[06:01] <Tedd|X> ekla;a
[06:01] <deFrysk> !info w32codecs
[06:01] <Tedd|X> Damnit.
[06:01] <erUSUL> !w32codecs
[06:01] <Rollaattori> !info w32codecs
[06:01] <lysis> what are you guys doing? lol
[06:01] <deFrysk> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-fda9cc5147253891fe3047263b82d787ab025bba to install
[06:02] <deFrysk> lysis, silly bot act up
[06:02] <lysis> sorry?
[06:02] <ramza3> ok there is an issue with old thinkpad e100 ethernet cards and the new kernel; I am pretty sure of it
[06:02] <lysis> oh!
[06:02] <lysis> i thought it said silly BOY at first.
[06:02] <erUSUL> !ubotu
[06:02] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[06:02] <deFrysk> !botsnac
[06:02] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, deFrysk
[06:02] <deFrysk> geez
[06:02] <Rollaattori> thank you
[06:02] <deFrysk> I give up
[06:03] <gnomefreak> !botsnack
[06:03] <ubotu> :)
[06:03] <lysis> i assume nobody knows anything about my teamspeak / audigy question. =P
[06:03] <Tedd|X> Urgh.
[06:03] <deFrysk> darn you gnomefreak
[06:03] <deFrysk> ;p
[06:03] <gnomefreak> lol
[06:03] <Tedd|X> Where can I get GTK+-2.0?
[06:03] <Tedd|X> Google time.
[06:03] <lysis> it's not in synaptic?
[06:03] <blanky> Tedd|X, I think you need backports enabled
[06:03] <_jason> Tedd|X, probably in synaptic
[06:03] <blanky> Tedd|X, why, is glade asking for them?
[06:03] <werneri> I come back with my problem. Graphic card not correctly recognized, X server not started.
[06:03] <Tedd|X> blanky: Gnomad2 is asking for it.
[06:04] <werneri> I'm now trying live-expert
[06:04] <Tedd|X> _jason; Tried synaptic, not there.
[06:04] <deFrysk> Tedd|X, you need the -dev files for compiling
[06:04] <erUSUL> why he would need backports for such an old version of gtk??
[06:04] <lysis> tedd, yes; gtk+-2.0 IS in synaptic with the backports opened up in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:04] <blanky> Tedd|X, ah, then sorry i dont know, but yeah it's probably in synaptic (might have to enable backports)
[06:04] <werneri> I didn't find any boot options relevant to the graphic card on F2-F10 on boot prompt
[06:04] <_jason> !info libgtk2.0-dev
[06:04] <ubotu> libgtk2.0-dev: (Development files for the GTK+ library), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 2.8.6-0ubuntu2.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 2163 kB, Installed size: 8008 kB
[06:04] <c0i0t3> as I configure modem LG LM-I56N in ubuntu?!?!?
[06:04] <deFrysk> blanky, what does backports have to di with it ?
[06:04] <Tedd|X> How would I go about doing that? Would ubotu have any ideas about that?
[06:04] <lysis> deFrysk; is there a script you guys are using to automatically put the person's name in, or are you typing it all out?
[06:05] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Tedd|X  about sources
[06:05] <deFrysk> lysis, autocompletion <tab> button
[06:05] <erUSUL> lysis, xchat does tab completion
[06:05] <blanky> deFrysk, I dont know, cause if it's not in there it might mean he can't get the latest one, backports enables that, I might be wrong though
[06:05] <lysis> ahh!
[06:05] <_jason> Tedd|X, libgtk2.0-dev is in main
[06:05] <c0i0t3> as I configure modem LG LM-I56N in ubuntu?!?!?
[06:05] <Opinie> could somebody help i'm having some problems?
[06:05] <Tedd|X> _jason_ thanks
[06:05] <gnomefreak> works in terminal too :)
[06:05] <lysis> Opinie, what's your problem?
[06:06] <erUSUL> Opinie, ask
[06:06] <Tedd|X> Sorry, _Jason; I didn't know it was 'libgtk' and not gtk
[06:06] <Dr_AceL> _jason: did you get my pm?
[06:06] <Opinie> it seems that the space on my normal user account is full and now i cant get log in
[06:06] <Opinie> *get
[06:06] <lysis> what exactly IS GTK+-2.0 ?
[06:06] <gnomefreak> Tedd|X, libgtk is the library(s) for gtk
[06:06] <Stylius> What was the text editor for the console in Ubuntu
[06:06] <Opinie> so right now i'm in my root account
[06:07] <erUSUL> Opinie, have you enabled cuota on the partition?
[06:07] <Opinie> cuota? O_o
[06:07] <kbrooks> lysis, GIMP Toolkit
[06:07] <lysis> erUSUL, quota?
[06:07] <erUSUL> Opinie, run df to see how much space you have left
[06:07] <gnomefreak> Stylius,  you mean gedit?
[06:07] <Opinie> sorry i'm a real noob with this stuff
[06:07] <lysis> kbrooks, perfect.
[06:07] <Stylius> does gedit work if the X11 is not running
[06:08] <kbrooks> lysis, it was originally written for GIMP
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> Stylius,  that would be rather hard.
[06:08] <_jason> Dr_AceL, you don;t have mutliverse enabled.  Are you sure you enabled it in synaptic?
[06:08] <gnomefreak> Stylius, gedit is not graphical for the most part
[06:08] <lysis> doesn't GTK2.0 get installed automatically with breezy?
[06:08] <matrix-ubuntu-c> use nano
[06:08] <Stylius> thanks
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> Stylius,  unless thers some gedit console version. Thers plenty of other nice console bsaed editors out
[06:08] <gnomefreak> Stylius,  are you trying to reconfigure X?
[06:08] <rikai> !flash
[06:08] <ubotu> hmm... flash is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:08] <Opinie> erUSUL how do i run df? O_o
[06:09] <Stylius> yes I am
[06:09] <Dr_AceL> _jason: checking
[06:09] <erUSUL> Opinie, in a terminal
[06:09] <Stylius> my monitor is rather old
[06:09] <gnomefreak> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:09] <gnomefreak> thats the command
[06:09] <XiCillin> gnomefreak, when i had problems  and ran that my x server always crashed
[06:09] <gnomefreak> dont forget sudo :(
[06:09] <erUSUL> Opinie, Aplications>Accesories>Terminal
[06:09] <Dr_AceL> _jason: I have all but the breazy_backports enabled
[06:09] <XiCillin> dont' if its just me
[06:09] <Opinie> yeah i know where terminal is
[06:09] <Stylius> thanks gnomefreak
[06:10] <gnomefreak> Stylius,  yw
[06:10] <gnomefreak> XiCillin,  i never had a problem with it
[06:10] <Opinie> erUSUL: just can't get those commands working
[06:10] <XiCillin> interesting
[06:10] <erUSUL> Opinie, what is the problem?
[06:10] <Opinie> just run df or how should i write it?
[06:10] <Dr_AceL> _jason: ahh I think I see now, those are the multiverses you were referring to
[06:10] <XiCillin> anyone here try gnome predict?
[06:10] <Dr_AceL> ?
[06:11] <cbear> can someone tell me the command for installing java
[06:11] <gnomefreak> XiCillin,  a few things could have happened you config it wrong or montier or card was going or they couldnt take the config
[06:11] <erUSUL> Opinie, type df in a terminal and hit enter
[06:11] <XiCillin> chmod 777 java-bla.bin
[06:11] <erUSUL> !java
[06:11] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[06:11] <XiCillin> ./java-bla.bin
[06:11] <Opinie> erUSUL: ok
[06:11] <Opinie> erUSUL: ok did it
[06:11] <cbear> i tried to do apt-get but it couldn't find package
[06:11] <Dr_AceL> _jason: I enabled those and reloaded and still not seeing the package name you referenced before
[06:12] <gnomefreak> cbear you wont you have to download
[06:12] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell cbear about javadebs
[06:12] <Opinie> erUSUL: 100% =(
[06:12] <Opinie> what next?
[06:12] <gnomefreak> cbear that is the easiest way to get java
[06:12] <_jason> Dr_AceL, pastebin your new sources.list so we can make sure they got enabled please
[06:12] <XiCillin> gnomefreak, its cool everything fines now
[06:12] <erUSUL> cbear, read the ubotu msg a few lines above
[06:12] <gnomefreak> debs are very easy to installl
[06:13] <erUSUL> Opinie, what have you done to get the partition full??
[06:13] <angel12> hey guys, i just did a fresh install of hoary and it seems that internet is really slow in firefox, i can ping and its pretty quick
[06:13] <Opinie> grhm... maybe i downloaded a few parkour movies =DD
[06:14] <_jason> angel12, set network.dns.disableIPv6 to true in about:config (just type abou:config in your address bar)
[06:14] <Opinie> erUSUL: any ideas what to do next?
[06:14] <Dr_AceL> _jason: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5339
[06:15] <erUSUL> Opinie, try 'sudo /etc/cron.weekly/sysklogd'
[06:15] <erUSUL>  maybe you have problems and syslogd is spaming your logs
[06:15] <angel12> _jason, thanks that did it
[06:16] <_jason> Dr_AceL, ok still not there.  We are going to add them manually.  I need you to close synaptic and opena  terminal.  Then type: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list.  Add "multiverse" to the end of lines 19 and 20.
[06:16] <Opinie> erUSUL: nothing happend? =O
[06:16] <erUSUL> Opinie, delete the  parkour movies too ;)
[06:16] <deFrysk> and add multiverse to line 35 and 36
[06:16] <erUSUL> Opinie, check with df again
[06:17] <l3m> i'm trying to setup a cvs repository using CVSD. Everything seems to work fine, except that when i want to checkout, i get "Cannot Access /project/CVSROOT", "No such file or directory". There is however a /project dir in the chrootjail-root, the dir is in cvsd.conf and i ran cvsd-buildroot... any ideas ?
[06:17] <raid01> hy all
[06:17] <raid01> having one little problem setting up my pppoe conection
[06:17] <Opinie> erUSUL: still saying that there's 100% used =(
[06:17] <Dr_AceL> _jason: so right after '...breezy universe'??
[06:17] <_jason> Dr_AceL, and yes do what deFrysk said as well: add "mutliverse" to lines 35 and 36 too
[06:17] <_jason> Dr_AceL, yes
[06:18] <erUSUL> Opinie, have you deleted the files that get your partition full??
[06:18] <raid01> I actually managed to set it up just fine but every time i startup my machine i have to rerun ppoe configuration
[06:18] <mp3guy> i installed firefox1.5 according the wiki, can i safely apt-get remove firefox?
[06:18] <raid01> anyone can help me out here?
[06:18] <_jason> mp3guy, no
[06:18] <Opinie> erUSUL: Please be patient but how do i that
[06:18] <werneri> I come back with my problem. Graphic card not correctly recognized, X server not started.
[06:19] <erUSUL> Opinie, you have to delete something to free up space, is as easy as it sounds...
[06:19] <werneri> I'm now trying live-expert and it's now asking if it should autodetect video hardware.
[06:19] <werneri> Anyone with knowledge in this field?
[06:19] <Opinie> erUSUL: from the root? O_o
[06:19] <erUSUL> Opinie, to delete from terminal use 'rm file_to_delete'
[06:20] <angel12> is it possible to upgrade from hoary to breezy via apt?
[06:20] <_jason> ubotu, tell angel12 about breezy
[06:20] <_jason> angel12, yes, read what the link ubotu sent you
[06:20] <erUSUL> !tell angel12 about breezy
[06:20] <raid01> Anyone please? i set up my ppoe connection but my ppoeconf file turns blank when i restart... i need to set up an easy way to connect cause this is for a newbie (newbier than me :P)
[06:21] <Dr_AceL> _jason: haha now I see it
[06:21] <_jason> Dr_AceL, great
[06:21] <rubem> How do i search for a file?
[06:21] <Mabus06> Is there a way to have ctrl-alt-(number) change to the workspace number?
[06:21] <_jason> rubem, man locate
[06:21] <rubem> _jason in nautilus
[06:21] <_jason> rubem, places menu
[06:21] <Mabus06> rubem, places> search for files
[06:21] <hlen> Mabus06, gnome? Applications->Desktop Preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts
[06:21] <m_beaweri2> hello
[06:22] <Mabus06> hlen, I don't think you can set up ctrl-alt-variable though
[06:22] <m_beaweri2> i have one stupid question about cds
[06:22] <_jason> Mabus06, you can :D
[06:22] <hlen> Mabus06, i believe you can
[06:22] <rubem> _Mabus06 _jason thank you, to bad nautilus dont have e shotcut
[06:22] <Overclocked_486> hey, I'm having trouble with Enlightenment Sound Daemon after upgrading to Breezy. Can anyone help?
[06:23] <m_beaweri2> is that full free of charge
[06:23] <raid01> Anyone??? Any support ppl in here ???
[06:23] <_willcooke_> Can anyone suggest a good video card with tv out for a pvr?
[06:23] <HappyFool> Mabus06: what hlen suggests works for me here
[06:23] <_jason> !ask
[06:23] <_jason> raid01, just ask
[06:23] <Dr_AceL> _jason: so now restarting firefox and I should be good to go?
[06:23] <_jason> Dr_AceL, should be
[06:23] <Dr_AceL> _jason: thanks a ton, I learned a lot :)
[06:24] <raid01> _jason,  i set up my ppoe connection but my ppoeconf file turns blank when i restart... i need to set up an easy way to connect cause this is for a newbie (newbier than me :P)
[06:24] <_jason> Dr_AceL, yw
[06:24] <Overclocked_486> hey, I'm having trouble with Enlightenment Sound Daemon after upgrading to Breezy. Can anyone help?
[06:24] <Mabus06> HappyFool, well I can add shortcuts manually, but I'd prefer a variable shortcut
[06:24] <m_beaweri2> bacause, there was sone value of price about cds
[06:24] <Opinie> erUSUL: When you wrote *file_to_delete* did u meen that i can just write the name of the file i want to delete or that i should write also the location there? =O
[06:24] <erUSUL> raid01, i do not know what can be blanking the conf file at restart... i can not help you :(
[06:24] <_jason> _jason, sorry I have no idea about ppoe   When I said ask I meant just address the channel
[06:25] <_jason> ubotu, tell Opinie about cli
[06:25] <raid01> erUSUL, meaning that every time i have to rerun ppoeconf and reconfigurate all over again, this aint my pc so i cant leave it like this
[06:25] <raid01> _jason, lol thought i had found my saviour, :P thx anyway man
[06:25] <vblanton> hey LeeJunFan you around?
[06:26] <Aven> real quick linux question
[06:26] <Red-Sox> hi
[06:26] <erUSUL> Opinie, you have to put the full name e.g. /home/whatever/file.avi
[06:26] <daje> hi
[06:26] <Aven> what's the command to rename a file?
[06:26] <Aven> using terminal...
[06:26] <dagaren> Aven: mv
[06:26] <Opinie> erUSUL: ok thank you
[06:26] <lysis> is there a way to have the eject button on my cdrom actually work?  or do i have to show desktop, right click on the cdrom on the desktop and hit eject?
[06:26] <Aven> dagaren, doesn't mv move a file?
[06:27] <Tedd|X> Damnit!
[06:27] <Tedd|X> Still getting an error.
[06:27] <dagaren> Aven: $mv <old name> <new name>
[06:27] <Tedd|X> Symbol lookup error while trying to start gnomad
[06:27] <Aven> ah ok, thanks
[06:27] <dagaren> ;)
[06:27] <ortner> is there any funny games to ubuntu?
[06:27] <daje> quick question - how do you use/install programs which just have .py files when unextracted (e.g. a torrent client)?
[06:28] <Tedd|X> gnomad2: symbol lookup error: gnomad2: undefined symbol: NJB_Set_Turbo_Mode
[06:28] <Tedd|X> how do I get around this?!
[06:28] <erUSUL> Opinie, np
[06:28] <_willcooke_> lysis, linux "locks" the cd drawer while a cd is mounted, so you really need to unmount the cd first, by right clicking and choosing eject.  However, you can unlock the cd drawer if you really want, but it might confuse the computer because it will think the cd is still mounted.
[06:29] <lysis> i'll look for a keyboard shortcut then . . .
[06:29] <erUSUL> daje, give it executable perm and move it to some bin folder (/usr/local/bin)
[06:29] <Tedd|X> Damn.
[06:29] <Jabo> i connect to the internet through a windows xp system on my network via ethernet. if i try to browse through mozilla it stays at "waiting for www.whatever" until i open network proxy settings and change the option
[06:29] <daje> erUSUL: thanks, i'll try that
[06:29] <Jabo> if it's set to direct internet connection then i change it to manual and the page partially loads
[06:29] <lysis> ha! i setup a shortcut. =)
[06:30] <Tedd|X> If I use sudo to open gnomad2 it gives me an error and closes it. If I Just type in gnomad2, it gives me usb_set_configuration error
[06:30] <Tedd|X> Can somebody help
[06:30] <Frederick> !grub
[06:30] <ubotu> [grub]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[06:30] <Opinie> erUSUL: u seem like a real guru with ubuntu! how long have u been using?
[06:30] <Jabo> then i have to change it back to load the rest of the page
[06:30] <Jabo> this is a new ubuntu 5.10 install
[06:30] <Jabo> "configuring network devices" at boot up seems to take a while...
[06:30] <Jabo> anybody got any idea what's wrong?
[06:30] <Jabo> my ip is assigned via dhcp
[06:30] <Red-Sox> snorks: sup?
[06:31] <Tedd|X> Someone have an idea? Please?
[06:31] <erUSUL> Opinie, not a guru i've been using ubuntu since a warty beta and linux since circa 1997
[06:31] <Tuntis> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=532641#post532641 <- I really NEED help there
[06:32] <Tuntis> Hey, pretty boy
[06:32] <Opinie> erUSUL: well that tells somethig i've been using ubuntu since last month =P
[06:32] <KomiaPoika> which kernel should i install on my laptop. linux 386, linux image 386 or linux image 2.6.12-9 386??
[06:32] <erUSUL> Tedd|X, post the error message in pastebin
[06:32] <daje> erUSUL: I tried that - says is an exec txt file, i choose run nothing happens - its g3torrent.py file
[06:32] <Tedd|X> erUSUL, it's a single line-error.
[06:32] <Tedd|X> gnomad2: symbol lookup error: gnomad2: undefined symbol: NJB_Set_Turbo_Mode
[06:33] <erUSUL> daje, first try python g3torrent.py
[06:34] <erUSUL> KomiaPoika, if it is a centrino it would be better a i686 flavor
[06:34] <daje> erUSUL: thanks
[06:34] <KomiaPoika> erUSUL: i am installing base system and i only see thoese 3 ... which should i pick?
[06:34] <Overclocked_486> hey, I'm having trouble with Enlightenment Sound Daemon after upgrading to Breezy. Can anyone help?
[06:35] <Tedd|X> Any ideas erUSUL
[06:35] <erUSUL> KomiaPoika, linux image 2.6.12-9 386
[06:36] <KomiaPoika> shit, i picked linux 386. is there a way to go back in that install procedure?
[06:36] <ortner> is talking about warez illigal in this server?
[06:36] <Tedd> ortner: Probably.
[06:36] <MickMcMack> Warez... In a *nix channel?
[06:36] <KomiaPoika> ortner: talking about warez isn't illegal, warez are. and this is a irc channel
[06:36] <MickMcMack> O_o;
[06:37] <erUSUL> Tedd|X, are you sure that the compilation was fine?? it seems a runtime error
[06:37] <KomiaPoika> but freenode policy forbids to discuss wares
[06:37] <Tedd> Compilation?
[06:37] <Tedd> Make install you mean like that?
[06:37] <smo> ortner, certainly off-topic, which is bad enough
[06:37] <Tedd> well yeah, I'm pretty sure it went smoothly.
[06:37] <gnomefreak> is there a way to use spamassasin with thunderbird? its not in the tools
[06:38] <erUSUL> KomiaPoika, np there should be no diference
[06:38] <Overclocked_486> Can anyone help me get my sound back? ESD stopped working after I upgraded, but ALSA works.
[06:38] <ortner> okej, ill refere like this is there any free version of cedega? or any other way to play games like wc3 or wow?
[06:38] <ortner> on linux ofcorse
[06:38] <ignas> what tool is ubuntu using to resize an ntfs partition when installing ?
[06:38] <khalif> Hello :)
[06:38] <DrBair> ignas:  ntfsresize of course
[06:38] <erUSUL> Tedd, well not that well as it shows a runtime error a conflict with some shared library i think
[06:38] <Overclocked_486> ortner: Wine
[06:39] <Tedd> What do you reccommend
[06:39] <ortner> Overclocked_486: does wow work with Wine?
[06:39] <erUSUL> Tedd, it can be a problem with the kernel too
[06:39] <nekostar> hey
[06:39] <nekostar> yall mess with 3ddesktop at all?
[06:39] <khalif> Sorry to bother you guys, but I'm a noob to ubuntu. I was wondering if someone could help me out for a sec.
[06:39] <Overclocked_486> ortner: AFAIK, WC3 can work. I'm unsure if WoW works, though.
[06:39] <nekostar> the thing is awesome :D
[06:39] <ignas> is there a way to fix "Warning: partition 1 overlaps partition 2.
[06:39] <ignas> " in linux ?
[06:40] <nekostar> ignas, what exactly is going on withit?
[06:40] <gnomefreak> khalif, ask and you shall (hopefully) recieve
[06:40] <ignas> all the tools just choke on it, and refuse to launch
[06:40] <nekostar> windows partitions?
[06:40] <erUSUL> Tedd, i do not know the program seems old maybe it is incompatible with recent kernels
[06:40] <mjr> ortner, Overclocked_486, haven't tried myself, but they say WoW works. One of the WoW team also co-operated on-list on that.
[06:40] <khalif> thanks gnome
[06:40] <ignas> one - ntfs, another ext3
[06:40] <Overclocked_486> Can anyone help me get ESD working again? I get no sound when I use it.
[06:40] <nekostar> wow on oc486? lol
[06:40] <nekostar> Overclocked_486, check system volume
[06:40] <mjr> nekostar, :
[06:40] <khalif> Um, I have a 600X Thinkpad that I just installed Ubuntu on.
[06:40] <erUSUL> Tedd, you may be not able to run it. check in its README and INSTALL file for clues
[06:41] <ignas> nekostar, i did a mistake by allowing ParititionMagic fix some thing, which it did witohut waiting for confirmation
[06:41] <nekostar> i recommend alsamixer from terminal or alsamixergui
[06:41] <nekostar> ic ignas
[06:41] <Overclocked_486> it's at 75% or so. ALSA outputs sound, but all the apps that used to run ESD are silent.
[06:41] <nekostar> you might need to use it again to fix it then
[06:41] <ortner> mjr: Overclocked_486 : i have a Wine version that looks like win95 but i cant get any programs to work with it
[06:41] <khalif> I followed the install the best that I could, but I'm having problems
[06:41] <khalif> after I log in, nothing happens
[06:41] <nekostar> Overclocked_486, make sure your in audio group:
[06:41] <nekostar> sudo adduser youruserhere audio
[06:41] <ignas> nekostar, it refuses to launch too, it mumbles something about being unable to get disk label
[06:41] <gnomefreak> im not real familar with lap-tops but i will help as much as i can
[06:41] <Overclocked_486> ortner: winecfg. Also, try joining #WineHQ. They helped me set Steam up last night.
[06:41] <nekostar> arg
[06:41] <khalif> cool
[06:42] <nekostar> dunno ignas but check the forums perhaps? www.ubuntuforums.org
[06:42] <gnomefreak> khalif, nothing happens like no display or no prompt?
[06:42] <ortner> Overclocked_486: same server? thansk for the information
[06:42] <khalif> I get the username/pass display, but after I log in, NADA
[06:42] <Overclocked_486> ortner: yeah, same server.
[06:42] <Tedd> erUSUL: Okay, thanks. Do you know of any other programs that could let me transfer music between my Zen Micro and computer?
[06:43] <Overclocked_486> nekostar: I'm already a member of audio.
[06:43] <gnomefreak> khalif, the screen that you get to log in is it graphical or black and white font?
[06:43] <erUSUL> Tedd, no sorry :(
[06:43] <khalif> graphical
[06:43] <Tedd> OK. I'll ask someone later.
[06:43] <Tedd> Thanks
[06:43] <Tedd> Bye
[06:43] <gnomefreak> khalif,  and gnome/kde never start?
[06:44] <khalif> nope.
[06:44] <Overclocked_486> nekostar: XMMS plays fine when I use ALSA, but apps that used to use ESD, like GNOME, are silent. I'm hoping to either get ESD working again, or force all those apps to use ALSA.
[06:44] <korhalf> How do i find what the size of my AGP aperture is?
[06:44] <khalif> It's a real old thinkpad. Only 12GB HD and no Ethernet port
[06:44] <korhalf> i tried dmegs | grep -i "agp" but it returned nothing
[06:44] <korhalf> i know my radeon has 256 mb ram, so i set that in cedega, but im unsure of my AGP aperture size
[06:44] <khalif> I'm on the net using my Mac
[06:45] <gnomefreak> khalif, how much ram does it have
[06:45] <khalif> hold on
[06:45] <gnomefreak> k
[06:45] <deFrysk> korhalf, its dmesg
[06:45] <nekostar> oic Overclocked_486
[06:45] <erUSUL> Overclocked_486, are you sure esd is running?
[06:45] <korhalf> deFrysk, okay i know, i made a type
[06:45] <igle> Hola
[06:45] <deFrysk> !es
[06:45] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:45] <nekostar> good show erUSUL
[06:46] <korhalf> dmesg | grep -i "agp" returns nothing.
[06:46] <nekostar> :P
[06:46] <khalif> 192K
[06:46] <khalif> sorry
[06:46] <Overclocked_486> erUSUL: How would I test that?
[06:46] <khalif> 192M
[06:46] <gnomefreak> khalif,  i think thats your problem
[06:46] <gnomefreak> no
[06:46] <nekostar> brb testing something :)
[06:46] <gnomefreak> nm 192 mb?
[06:46] <khalif> yes 195MB
[06:46] <erUSUL> Overclocked_486, ps ax | grep esd
[06:46] <gnomefreak> ubuntu should run (maybe slow) but should run on 128mb of ram
[06:47] <nExy> I have no sound on my ubuntu server install. What can I do to have sound?
[06:47] <erUSUL> korhalf, you can set that on the bios
[06:47] <khalif> Thats what I figured
[06:47] <thrice`> anyway to get streaming video with totem-xine?
[06:47] <korhalf> erUSUL, okay ill check there
[06:47] <korhalf> erUSUL, should i set it to as high as it can go?
[06:47] <Overclocked_486> erUSUL: The grep for esd and /usr/bin/esd -nobeeps are running.
[06:47] <khalif> You think maybe I installed wrong?
[06:47] <gnomefreak> khalif,  how long have you waited on it to pull  up?
[06:48] <khalif> 20 minutes now.
[06:48] <gnomefreak> khalif,  no i dont think so unless the disk/net installed it wrong
[06:48] <khalif> I used a CD-ROM
[06:48] <gnomefreak> khalif,  what do you get when ubuntu boots up anything fail?
[06:48] <erUSUL> gnomefreak, why would you want sound on a server?
[06:48] <korhalf> erUSUL, should i set the AGP aperture to as high as it can go in BIOS?
[06:48] <gnomefreak> er4z0r, i dont
[06:48] <nExy> nexy*
[06:48] <khalif> only the sync to ubuntu clock, but thats because I can't connect to the net from it
[06:48] <gnomefreak> :)
[06:48] <khalif> hold on
[06:49] <erUSUL> korhalf, i guess thais up to you
[06:49] <gnomefreak> khalif,  yeah thats pretty normal on a first boot
[06:49] <erUSUL> that is*
[06:49] <korhalf> erUSUL, what do you mean, is it safe to go as high as possible or is there a limit or something?
[06:49] <raid01> hi all, need some support: i have problems withg my ppoe configuration
[06:49] <korhalf> erUSUL, i assume its like overclocking, and i dont wanna screw anythign up
[06:49] <khalif> back. Neibor at door.
[06:49] <nExy> because i have a PBX system and would also like the server to control the music on hold.
[06:50] <khalif> You think maybe I should try to re-install?
[06:50] <yoyo> hey
[06:50] <gnomefreak> khalif,  can you pull up a terminal?
[06:50] <lysis> ok so i've setup a button to auto eject / unmount my dvdrw drive, when i put a disc in it doesn't automount. if i click Places, Computer, DVD+/-RW Drive, it opens it up, and then it's like gnome is saying "hey mount the drive now" and it opens a new window to open it a second time.
[06:50] <khalif> Maybe I didn't erase the drive correctly...
[06:50] <lysis> i hope that made sense
[06:50] <erUSUL> korhalf, the limit is in the bios you can put whatever you want. games do not use main memory that much (for graphics i mean)
[06:50] <Overclocked_486> erUSUL: Any other ideas?
[06:50] <khalif> Nothing comes up when I press any of the buttons
[06:50] <guru54_> hey Red-Sox
[06:51] <khalif> maybe I could try to but into the root
[06:51] <khalif> *boot
[06:51] <gnomefreak> khalif,  try ctrl,alt,backspace at same time to reboot X
[06:51] <nekostar> hehe back
[06:51] <gnomefreak> restart*
[06:51] <nekostar> sorry setting some keybindings
[06:51] <nExy> erUSUL : any idea :)
[06:51] <anna> hi guys, is there a german ubuntu channel?
[06:51] <gnomefreak> !de
[06:51] <ubotu> methinks de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[06:51] <gnomefreak> that german?
[06:52] <nExy> lol
[06:52] <gnomefreak> lol
[06:52] <khalif> ok, back on user/pass login
[06:52] <gnomefreak> ok khalif  try again
[06:52] <gnomefreak> watch it not work :(
[06:53] <raid01> any supporter here for ppoe?????????
[06:53] <khalif> ok, now I've got a brown pic with "ubuntu" on it
[06:53] <Overclocked_486> can anyone help me with ESD not producing sound?
[06:53] <nExy> i take it no one can take my request
[06:53] <gnomefreak> khalif,  thats the splash screen
[06:53] <nExy> over clock
[06:54] <nExy> did u do a server install ?
[06:54] <gnomefreak> it should give you a full screen with a menu on top?
[06:54] <Dr_AceL> is there a wireless strength meter in ubuntu?
[06:54] <khalif> how long does it take for the desktop to come up?
[06:54] <gnomefreak> khalif,  every pc is different
[06:54] <Overclocked_486> nExy: no. I was running a Hoary desktop install and upgraded to Breezy. Now the Breezy ESD won't make sound, but ALSA will.
[06:54] <erUSUL> Dr_AceL, kismet
[06:54] <sonics> hello
[06:54] <gnomefreak> khalif,  you dont see menu on top of screen?
[06:55] <nExy> how do u make alsa make a sound
[06:55] <khalif> nope
[06:55] <sonics> my 1st day of a running linux OS on my PC :)
[06:55] <gnomefreak> is the lil splash screen still there?
[06:55] <khalif> yes
[06:55] <pussfeller> i saw these scarry errors in boot up  IO ERROR IO ERROR
[06:55] <Dr_AceL> erUSUL: is there a shortcut for it already?
[06:55] <PhoenixP3K> Hi everyone! Can someone tell me how to check what video drivers I'm using?
[06:55] <pussfeller> but they were before dmesg
[06:55] <gnomefreak> khalif,  let me know if that goes away  (your curser should look like a spinning ball
[06:55] <Overclocked_486> nExy: I ran Multimedia Systems Selector. Testing ALSA produced test beeps. Testing ESD produced no sound.
[06:56] <Red-Sox> snorks: ?
[06:56] <nExy> i did a server install
[06:56] <erUSUL> Dr_AceL, i do not know if it is in repos. search in synaptic
[06:56] <nExy> and no one knows what to do
[06:56] <khalif> still on splash: waiting
[06:56] <nExy> yes
[06:56] <nExy> i do 2
[06:56] <pussfeller> i would imagine a server install wouldnt put sound in
[06:56] <nExy> server install didnt even fucking have ssh
[06:56] <sonics> does x-chat have a perform box like in mirc?
[06:57] <gnomefreak> khalif,  what processer is in the laptop?
[06:57] <nExy> nop puss your right
[06:57] <nExy> but i need it
[06:57] <Overclocked_486> nExy: 0_0
[06:57] <pussfeller> at least, I wouldnt install sound
[06:57] <nExy> i dont care what would you do
[06:57] <nExy> i need this to also control the pbx on hold music and ads
[06:57] <gnomefreak> sonics,  i have never seen anything that says perform but ive never used mirk before either
[06:57] <sonics> all I want is to auto open this channel when I start up x-chat
[06:57] <sonics> ;-)
[06:58] <nExy> thats easy sonics
[06:58] <nExy> :)
[06:58] <pussfeller> nExy: then use an asterisk distro if thats what yer after
[06:58] <gnomefreak> sonics,  click xchat than clcikc new server
[06:58] <nExy> no u fucking idiot
[06:58] <erUSUL> nExy, server install is the name ubuntu choose for the debian base-system it has nothing except the necesary to futher install what you want
[06:58] <pussfeller> ..
[06:58] <nExy> stop talking puss
[06:58] <nExy> you dont know what you talking about
[06:58] <HappyFool> !conduct
[06:58] <ubotu> conduct is, like, totally, the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, to which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/
[06:58] <nExy> I SAID MUSIC ON HOLD
[06:58] <nExy> I WANNA PLAY MUSIC OUT THE SOUND CARD
[06:58] <HappyFool> please stop shouting
[06:58] <nExy> why would i wanna install asterick ?
[06:58] <gnomefreak> sonics,  the server page will come up click edit in there you will see a place to auto join this chat if you have to fill it in type #ubuntu
[06:59] <erUSUL> nExy, maners
[06:59] <pussfeller> i guess I cant help, I apologize
[06:59] <nExy> i dont mean to get rude
[06:59] <nExy> its just i said already what i need to do
[06:59] <nExy> and then you go and recommend something i DONT need
[06:59] <Dr_AceL> erUSUL: so if I install via synaptic, does it usually put shortcuts in the menus, or do I need to add those myself?
[07:00] <PhoenixP3K> How can I check what video driver I have, please help
[07:00] <erUSUL> Dr_AceL, it depends on the package some put menu entries some do not
[07:00] <khalif> hey gnome....still on splash screen
[07:00] <starkej> hey, I just installed ubuntu with the server install, does anybody know what the default root password is?
[07:00] <Dr_AceL> erUSUL: aight, thanks
[07:01] <HappyFool> PhoenixP3K: lsmod might tell you; what video card do you have?
[07:01] <pussfeller> PhoenixP3K: glxinfo can often tell you, or using less on the logs in /var/log/xfree something
[07:01] <PhoenixP3K> HappyFool: I have ATI Radeon 9550
[07:01] <sonics> ok
[07:01] <Red-Sox> guru54: ?
[07:02] <michele> starkej: there is no root password. you must use sudo and your own passowrd
[07:02] <nExy> so
[07:02] <starkej> oh, so I can't do anything as root?
[07:02] <nExy> no one knows how to install sound on a server install ?
[07:02] <HappyFool> !tell starkej about sudo
[07:02] <michele> starkej: if you want a root shell, just type sudo -s
[07:02] <spacey> starkej, `sudo -s`
[07:02] <erUSUL> nExy, install alsa-base and alsa-utils and alsamixer is not that dificult to figure out (not mean to be rude but...)
[07:02] <nExy> rofl
[07:03] <starkej> ya, I know about sudo, but sometimes it won't let me do stuff using sudo, like burning backups
[07:03] <PhoenixP3K> HappyFool, pussfeller : Does Ubuntu usualy select the right drivers or do I have to install it myself? I'm on Breezy
[07:03] <nExy>  apt-get install alsa-base
[07:03] <nExy> Reading package lists... Done
[07:03] <nExy> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:03] <nExy> alsa-base is already the newest version.
[07:03] <nExy> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 9 not upgraded.
[07:03] <HappyFool> PhoenixP3K: i have an nvidia; i believe installing the ATI accelerated drivers is covered on the wiki
[07:03] <spacey> starkej, if you type `sudo -s` you just get a root shell, same as with su
[07:03] <erUSUL> !tell starkej about root
[07:03] <HappyFool> !tell PhoenixP3K about ati
[07:03] <starkej> ahhh, sudo -s, awesome!
[07:03] <nExy> alsa-utils is already the newest version.
[07:04] <nExy> dont mean to be a rude one either
[07:04] <nExy> but there already installed
[07:04] <HappyFool> fwiw, i think 'sudo -i' is preferred. less chance of mucking up ~
[07:04] <nExy> :)
[07:04] <khalif> hey gnome
[07:04] <starkej> thanks guys!
[07:04] <gnomefreak> HappyFool, sudo -i is perferred over sudo -s (i think it was s)
[07:04] <erUSUL> nExy, run alsamixer
[07:04] <PhoenixP3K> HappyFool that tell thing is cool, I'll go check it out thanks
[07:04] <gnomefreak> khalif,  did gnome come up or still on splash?
[07:05] <nExy> yah? and....
[07:05] <nExy> everything is already turned up
[07:05] <nExy> i get an error when i try playing a MP3
[07:05] <khalif> it was still on the splash. I just shut it off and trying re-boot
[07:05] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell nExy about mp3
[07:05] <erUSUL> nExy, and the error is
[07:05] <erUSUL> ?
[07:05] <nExy> Playing MPEG stream from 20050828210929.mp3 ...
[07:05] <nExy> MPEG 1.0 layer III, 192 kbit/s, 44100 Hz stereo
[07:05] <nExy> Can't find a suitable libao driver. (Is device in use?)
[07:05] <cddesjar> is flight #2 scheduled to be released today?
[07:05] <nExy>  Can't find a suitable libao driver. (Is device in use?)
[07:06] <khalif> ubuntu module load scrolling...
[07:06] <Overclocked_486> Can anyone help me get ESD working?
[07:06] <erUSUL> nExy, killall esd
[07:06] <michele> nExy: what program are you using to play?
[07:06] <opnsrc> How do I install  ncurses-devel , I can't seem to find it under SPM.
[07:06] <Infernall> can anyone recommend a good ftp server?  I love pure-ftpd, but it suddenly ignores my settings for passive ftp...
[07:06] <khalif> so far everything is ok, except syncing clock
[07:07] <gnomefreak> khalif,  thats gonna happen
[07:07] <freemanen> is the news that would come in ubuntu https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperGoals
[07:07] <HappyFool> opnsrc: i think its libncurses5-dev
[07:07] <opnsrc> thanks
[07:07] <michele> nExy: try with aplay to check if alsa is ok
[07:07] <khalif> ok, back on user/pass screen...
[07:07] <spacey> Infernall, vsftpd
[07:07] <opnsrc> command not found
[07:07] <nExy> mpg321
[07:07] <HappyFool> opnsrc: 'apt-cache search --names-only' is useful for this sort of thing
[07:07] <HappyFool> opnsrc: command not found ?
[07:07] <opnsrc> oh n/m
[07:07] <opnsrc> I got you
[07:07] <nExy> i just run aplay from console ?
[07:08] <erUSUL> nExy, you have esd running kill it
[07:08] <Infernall> spacey, thanks, i'll give it a try
[07:08] <opnsrc> Thanks
[07:08] <pussfeller> Infernall: proftpd is fairly robust wiht apache style configs and all that implies
[07:08] <nExy> i dont have esd running
[07:08] <blanky> i downloaded a rar file and i keep gettig crc errors when unrarring (cyclic redundancy check), is there a way to fix this
[07:08] <erUSUL> nExy, or use a player that uses esd
[07:08] <Infernall> pussfeller, had a problem getting proftpd working with passive ports, non 21/20
[07:08] <pussfeller> but many people are moving away from ftp and into sftp
[07:08] <nExy> cah i use aplay
[07:09] <HappyFool> erUSUL: i think nExy installed the server edition (i would guess no esd etc there)
[07:09] <nExy> puss whats sftp ?
[07:09] <khalif> I must have installed this wrong cause nothing happens past the user/pass screen...
[07:09] <jeff_> hey guys
[07:09] <varsendagger> i'm back to using ubuntu
[07:09] <varsendagger> hey jeff_
[07:09] <Tuntis> Hey
[07:09] <khalif> gnome, how cn I re-install?
[07:10] <Tuntis> I have an problem booting from an USB external hard disk
[07:10] <gnomefreak> khalif, is it gonna be only distro on that computer?
[07:10] <Tuntis> I have 3 IDE drives
[07:10] <Tuntis> and grub's root is configured as (3,1), should that be correct?
[07:10] <khalif> yep. I don't want windoze or anything else on here but 'nix
[07:10] <jeff_> lol
[07:11] <HappyFool> Tuntis: might be (2,0) -- grub numbers from 0
[07:11] <jeff_> right on
[07:11] <erUSUL> khalif, try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:11] <Tuntis> yes, but the, erm, usb drive is the fourth drive in BIOS config?
[07:11] <gnomefreak> khalif,  ok good just set bios to boot from cdrom and slide cd in and restart when the partioner comes up you want to auto partion erase everything on drive
[07:11] <Tuntis> Well whatever, i'll try later
[07:11] <HappyFool> Tuntis: ah. ok, maybe (3,0) then -- depending on where /boot is
[07:11] <gnomefreak> erUSUL,  he cant get a terminal
[07:12] <khalif> your going too fast strat over please...
[07:12] <khalif> *start
[07:12] <nExy> it dosnt play again when i run aplay
[07:12] <jeff_> does anybody here have a laptop with a proprietary ATI graphics card?
[07:12] <gib8> hi i have a big problem with my usb
[07:12] <gib8> and i looked a lot with google
[07:12] <Tuntis> HappyFool, grub is on my WinXP drive's MBR
[07:12] <gnomefreak> khalif,  set bios to boot from cdrom
[07:12] <blanky> how can I see what fonts I hav
[07:12] <jdimond> i have a laptop with the ati mobility rage chipset
[07:12] <khalif> First, how do I get back into bios?
[07:12] <gib8> knows someone if there is a problem with nforce2usb-drivers?
[07:12] <erUSUL> khalif, crtl + Alt + F1 does not bring you a terminal??
[07:13] <Tuntis> Khalif, usually DEL or F1 when your computer starts
[07:13] <jeff_> jdimond: have you been able to get tv-out working?
[07:13] <khalif> ok here
[07:13] <Opinie> erUSUL: ok thanks a lot i got it working again =)
[07:13] <gnomefreak> khalif,  on reboot should give you a bios key to hot
[07:13] <Tuntis> oh man I hope I would have partitioned an IDE drive for Kubuntu
[07:13] <jdimond> jeff_: not sure if it works or not havent used it
[07:13] <HappyFool> Tuntis: that's fine. 'root (hdXXX,YYY)' is suppposed to point to the partition where /boot can be found
[07:13] <erUSUL> Opinie, no problem
[07:13] <khalif> ok Im at term
[07:13] <gnomefreak> good
[07:13] <Opinie> ok cya
[07:13] <jeff_> jdimond: ok
[07:13] <erUSUL> khalif, try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:13] <gnomefreak> khalif, type sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:14] <jeff_> im trying to get tv-out working on my laptop
[07:14] <opnsrc> Thanks
[07:14] <opnsrc> I just picked like a gang of those lib stuff around it to be sure
[07:15] <nExy> michele: aplay dosnt work
[07:15] <Tuntis> HappyFool, why is there a 3,1, not 3,0?
[07:15] <nExy> it just makes an odd scratch sound on the sound
[07:15] <Tuntis> What is the second "part" for?
[07:15] <HappyFool> Tuntis: the number after the comma is the partition number
[07:15] <HappyFool> Tuntis: numbering again from 0
[07:15] <khalif> it keeps saying that my pass is incorrect, but this is what I was using to login
[07:15] <jdimond> jeff_: i'll play with it and see if I can find anything
[07:15] <jeff_> jdimond: ok
[07:15] <Tuntis> but, if it's the partition number, why is there an /dev/sda2 later in the boot script?
[07:16] <opnsrc> Is there a way I can have an option on the top of each directory folder to open it in a terminal
[07:16] <opnsrc> To open the current directory I'm in
[07:16] <gnomefreak> khalif,  try sudo -i
[07:16] <gnomefreak> than password
[07:16] <glouph> Where  can I report a bug in french ?
[07:16] <opnsrc> Because I hate having to open directories and then fetching the directory I want to open
[07:16] <HappyFool> Tuntis: i'm not sure what you're talking about, but probably to tell linux where / should be
[07:16] <_jason> opnsrc, nautilus-open-terminal
[07:16] <gnomefreak> glouph, bugzilla should be in your menu
[07:16] <jeff_> jdimond: ive tryed before, i have a dell laptop and they dont have linux drivers for my laptop
[07:16] <brosio> hi
[07:16] <HappyFool> Tuntis: if it's /dev/sda2, then (hd3,1) could well be correct
[07:16] <_jason> opnsrc, it's a package you can isntall that will do that
[07:16] <khalif> no good
[07:16] <brosio> anyone known a mirror with mozilla 1.5 ?
[07:17] <gnomefreak> khalif,  type passwrd
[07:17] <brosio> ah ok topix
[07:17] <opnsrc> Thanks
[07:17] <glouph> gnomefreak it's not about gnome, the same bug occurs when i use fluxbox
[07:17] <jeff_> jdimond: the video card on it is ATI mobility radeon M6 or somethign like that
[07:17] <gnomefreak> glouph,  i didnt say it had anything to do with gnome
[07:17] <mannyman> I want firefox 1.5 and the latest OpenOffice, what do i do ?
[07:17] <khalif> it saying that log-in is incorrect
[07:17] <Ahmuck> syanptic
[07:17] <mannyman> 5.10's apps are quite old now
[07:17] <gnomefreak> bugzilla is for reporting bugs
[07:18] <glouph> Oh wait I thought you said bugbuddy ok i'll try bugzilla
[07:18] <pv_> mannyman, not more than half an year old :)
[07:18] <Tuntis> happyfool, then the problem is it doesn't detect/get access to /dev/sda2
[07:18] <erUSUL> mannyman, wait patiently ;)
[07:18] <gnomefreak> im pretty sure passwrd is the command to change the password
[07:18] <khalif> ok, I didn't type my username
[07:18] <mannyman> you mean there's no way !?
[07:18] <khalif> :(
[07:18] <HappyFool> gnomefreak: it's passwd
[07:18] <nickrud> gnomefreak, passwd
[07:18] <Ahmuck> build from source to /usr/local/package
[07:18] <gnomefreak> no r ty happy
[07:18] <jdimond> jeff_: pm me
[07:18] <The_Isle_of_Mark> mannyman https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:18] <pv_> mannyman, you can install it as described in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:19] <HappyFool> Tuntis: what error message do you get?
[07:19] <erUSUL> gnomefreak, passwd
[07:19] <gnomefreak> khalif,  if it doesnt take it type in terminal passwd
[07:19] <starkej> how do I add sshd to the startup of my new system?
[07:19] <Tuntis> ALERT: /dev/sda2 not found, dropping into a shell!
[07:19] <nickrud> glouph, what package is the bug in? (that matters for where you report bugs)
[07:19] <pv_> hmm, it seems that "mkdir -p /opt/firefox" is missing from the page
[07:19] <HappyFool> Tuntis: hmm
[07:19] <gnomefreak> ty all
[07:19] <ikor> `
[07:19] <mannyman> thanks, what about openoffice, latest Gnome, etc. ?
[07:19] <opnsrc> Ok I installed nautilus-open-terminal
[07:19] <khalif> ok. it says that I have the latest version
[07:19] <opnsrc> How do i use it?
[07:19] <HappyFool> Tuntis: this happens some time into the boot?
[07:19] <opnsrc> I'm in a directory, how do I use it?
[07:19] <pv_> mannyman, openoffice should go similarly.
[07:19] <gnomefreak> khalif,  i had that feeling
[07:19] <Tuntis> After the kubuntu fancy logo goes off
[07:19] <gnomefreak> you got the splash sceen for gnome desktop
[07:20] <mannyman> thanks pv_
[07:20] <erUSUL> opnsrc, right-click on a folder
[07:20] <glouph> I've no idea nickrud
[07:20] <pv_> mannyman, latest gnome is probably more difficult to install, and you likely had better to wait for next version of ubuntu.
[07:20] <khalif> No I'm in the Term
[07:20] <pv_> that's what i'd do
[07:20] <opnsrc> open in other application?
[07:20] <gnomefreak> khalif,  yes i know
[07:20] <mannyman> ok wher do I go for new themes and eyecandy ?
[07:20] <nickrud> glouph then, which application?
[07:20] <mannyman> easy installation needed
[07:20] <khalif> sorry :(
[07:20] <gnomefreak> khalif, it was telling you that you have latest version of gnome
[07:20] <khalif> yes
[07:21] <gnomefreak> ubuntu-desktop =gnome meta package
[07:21] <glouph> nickrud sometimes it happens when i use firefox, sometimes when i use kpdf or xchat
[07:21] <opnsrc> well there is an option to run as root terminal
[07:21] <opnsrc> what about a regular terminal?
[07:21] <The_Isle_of_Mark> mannyman sudo apt-get install gnome-art
[07:21] <khalif> no it just says that ubuntu-desktop is already the newest version
[07:21] <gnomefreak> khalif,  now restart and enter your bios on my pc during reboot i press F2 but not gonna be same on yours
[07:22] <nickrud> glouph, hm, it really helps the dev's if you can try to narrow it down a bit: what kind of bad behavior are you talking about?
[07:22] <The_Isle_of_Mark> mannyman that is the gnome art browser that syncs with the gnome website
[07:22] <opnsrc> wait there it is
[07:22] <opnsrc> I found it, thanks
[07:22] <khalif> ok
[07:22] <encompass> I have some issues, I noticed that something on my computer is trying to get into my ftp.site that I frequently use.  I thought it was gftp but when I remove the program it was giving me the same problems
[07:22] <glouph> nickrud, i'm just working or doing things and suddenly the screen gets green
[07:22] <HappyFool> Tuntis: i'm not sure what the problem is. At a guess Linux does not see the USB drive early enough in the boot
[07:22] <encompass> how to a probe to see what process is sending those ftp requests from my computer?
[07:22] <mannyman> The_Isle_of_Mark, thanks. Is this easy stuff cus I'm newbie
[07:22] <khalif> how do I set superuser?
[07:22] <The_Isle_of_Mark> mannyman that is easy
[07:22] <glouph> nickrud it usually happens when i'm doing lot of things at the same time
[07:22] <nickrud> glouph, and this happens in gnome and fluxbox, you said?
[07:22] <Tuntis> yup, I printed some instructions to use Vim to edit the files, but I can't get to some fancy console in the installation rescuemode
[07:22] <glouph> yup nickrud
[07:23] <starkej> How do I add SSHd to the startup of my server?
[07:23] <Tuntis> (to make it load usb drivers?)
[07:23] <pussfeller> encompass: you can use "sudo netstat -autvnp"
[07:23] <HappyFool> encompass: 'sudo netstat -lp' -- look for port 'ftp'
[07:23] <The_Isle_of_Mark> mannyman or go to the gnome website and look up themes and such. they have info how to install them there...real easy
[07:23] <encompass> thanks
[07:23] <gnomefreak> khalif,  ubuntu is not set for su its sudo instead
[07:23] <mannyman> thanks
[07:23] <The_Isle_of_Mark> mannyman, np
[07:23] <khalif> gotcha!
[07:24] <nExy> whats a good mp3 player for alsa thats console BASED ?
[07:24] <nickrud> glouph heh
[07:24] <HappyFool> Tuntis: hmm. using the installation cd for rescue is a bit painful. if you have the bandwidth, try downloading the live cd
[07:24] <Tuntis> And, erm, how do I edit stuff with the live cd?
[07:24] <mannyman> ok DVDs don't work by default ... what gives ?!
[07:24] <Tuntis> Does it detect my linux partition? :O
[07:24] <nExy> hey mannay man
[07:24] <erUSUL> starkej, does it automatically when you install
[07:25] <HappyFool> Tuntis: well, it have a full GUI etc. You can mount partitions to access files on them
[07:25] <nickrud> glouph, probably xserver-xorg is the place to file the bug (in bugzilla); be sure to attach your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.
[07:25] <Tuntis> whoaaa
[07:25] <Tuntis> that sounds pwnzorous
[07:25] <starkej> Really?
[07:25] <mjr> mannyman, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:25] <Tuntis> I'll try that
[07:25] <khalif> ok, I'm in the GRUB menu. What's next?
[07:25] <glouph> Ok nickrud
[07:25] <glouph> nickrud should i attach a screenshot too ?
[07:25] <ltibor65> I will listen to mp3 files with Totem, what need I install?
[07:25] <nickrud> glouph, a before and after maybe
[07:26] <nExy> what is a good
 alsa console based mp3 player
[07:26] <gnomefreak> khalif,  slide the ubuntu cd in drive and reboot to install ubuntu over again
[07:26] <glouph> Thank you nickrud
[07:26] <DuffyX56> Does anyone know what this problem is, I am trying to install G++ and the command is "sudo apt-get install build essentials" but it doesn't install.
[07:26] <Red-Sox> guru54: k, u can PM me again
[07:26] <nickrud> glouph, attach /var/log/Xorg.0.log as well.
[07:26] <The_Isle_of_Mark> DuffyX56, its build-essentials
[07:26] <glouph> k
[07:27] <erUSUL> DuffyX56, build-essential
[07:27] <DuffyX56> thats what I ment..
[07:27] <ltibor65> Which mp3 player?
[07:27] <nExy> console based
[07:27] <nExy> that uses alsa
[07:27] <nickrud> glouph, and, finally, describe as clearly and in as much detail as you can, what conditions it happens in.
[07:27] <The_Isle_of_Mark> DuffyX56, what error do you get?
[07:27] <aurelito> hola
[07:27] <erUSUL> DuffyX56, note the final s
[07:27] <DuffyX56> Reading package lists... Done
[07:27] <DuffyX56> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:27] <DuffyX56> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[07:27] <DuffyX56> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:27] <DuffyX56>   build-essential: Depends: gcc (>= 3:3.3) but it is not going to be installed
[07:27] <DuffyX56>                    Depends: g++ (>= 3:3.3) but it is not going to be installed
[07:27] <DuffyX56>   realplayer: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14 is to be installed
[07:27] <yancheng> helo, is there any red eye removal picture software for ubuntu?
[07:27] <DuffyX56> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[07:27] <HappyFool> don't paste here
[07:27] <ltibor65> Totem cannot play mp3?
[07:27] <DuffyX56> Thats whats happening.
[07:27] <glouph> nickrud, all i know is it happens when i overload the desktop
[07:28] <nExy> whats totem
[07:28] <Red-Sox> !pm
[07:28] <ubotu> pm is, like, totally, Ask your questions in the channel so that other people may also benefit from answers received.
[07:28] <nExy> (totem:6699): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[07:28] <Red-Sox> how do you pm someone?
[07:28] <HappyFool> Red-Sox: it depends on the client, but /query thepersontopm often works
[07:28] <erUSUL> DuffyX56, do what it says run 'apt-get -f install'
[07:28] <glouph> nickrud, should I mention that it does same with the live CD ?
[07:28] <nickrud> glouph, yes, most certainly.
[07:29] <gmaksim> can somebody help me?!
[07:29] <nickrud> glouph, like I said, as much detail as possible :)
[07:29] <nExy> im gonna have to isntall redhat on this mother
[07:29] <glouph> kk
[07:29] <DuffyX56> Couldn't find package build. I dropped the s.
[07:29] <encompass> I don't see the source of the ftp requests, but ethereal gives me that the login attemps are anonymouse requests and they are nobody.gnome.org
[07:29] <The_Isle_of_Mark> DuffyX56, have you tried synaptic? easier for people sometimes
[07:29] <encompass> I think it is nautilus
[07:29] <DuffyX56> wait, typo ><
[07:29] <gnomefreak> ok khalif  do you see the install screen?
[07:29] <gmaksim> i have a problem with GNOME Ubuntu!
[07:29] <HappyFool> DuffyX56: it's 'build-essential', not 'build essential'
[07:29] <Tuntis> GNOME Ubuntu = Normal Ubuntu?
[07:30] <DuffyX56> yeah...figured it out lol
[07:30] <gmaksim> yes
[07:30] <khalif> no i was grub not bios
[07:30] <The_Isle_of_Mark> DuffyX56, HappyFool is right
[07:30] <Tuntis> KDE Ubuntu = Kubuntu
[07:30] <The_Isle_of_Mark> I added an S
[07:30] <gnomefreak> gnome ubuntu =ubuntu
[07:30] <khalif> trying to get into bios
[07:30] <Tuntis> Ofcourse you could apt-get the desktops though :/
[07:30] <gnomefreak> khalif,  ok
[07:30] <gmaksim> but problem is with GNOME
[07:30] <Tuntis> Go on
[07:30] <christs_> Anyone know how to install mplayer on 5.10?
[07:30] <nickrud> !mplayer
[07:30] <ubotu> hmm... mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[07:31] <gmaksim> i can't administrate anything from GNOME
[07:31] <DuffyX56> nope, tryed sudo apt-get -f install build-essential and it's still popping up with an error.
[07:31] <gnomefreak> khalif,  you might not have to reset bios if you installed ubuntu and havent set bios to harddrve afterwards
[07:31] <gmaksim> when i type in root passwd i get wrong passwd reply
[07:31] <gnomefreak> gmaksim, admin=sudo
[07:31] <The_Isle_of_Mark> DuffyX56, same error?
[07:31] <DuffyX56> Yeah.
[07:32] <nickrud> gmaksim, use your own password, not root;s
[07:32] <khalif> well, i have the disk in, but the install menu isn't coming up
[07:32] <erUSUL> DuffyX56, do what it says run 'apt-get -f install' whithout package names
[07:32] <gmaksim> why my own passwd
[07:32] <gnomefreak> gmaksim, su is disabled in ubuntu by default
[07:32] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell gmaksim about root and sudo
[07:32] <nickrud> gmaksim, ubuntu uses gksudo as a wrapper
[07:32] <nickrud> !rootsudo
[07:32] <ubotu> rootsudo is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[07:32] <gnomefreak> ty nick
[07:32] <encompass> How do I read the source of my output ftp requests, I have random ones sending from the computer.
[07:32] <khalif> ok im in install
[07:33] <gnomefreak> hit enter
[07:33] <encompass> I am very frustrated because they are requests to my business ftp site... I could get introuble for it
[07:33] <encompass> it is like it is ping flooding
[07:33] <gnomefreak> khalif,  here you choice your country and all that
[07:33] <Dashnak> Hello
[07:33] <gnomefreak> choose even
[07:33] <khalif> ok one sec
[07:33] <DuffyX56> Woa, without knowing it I removed the broken file I wanted to remove. Sweet...Anywho it's not working.
[07:33] <gnomefreak> ok
[07:33] <HappyFool> encompass: your computer is sending random ftp requests out ?
[07:33] <The_Isle_of_Mark> encompass how about ps -aux | grep ftp
[07:34] <Dashnak> Anyone here uses PPC?
[07:34] <gmaksim> look people i logon as normal user in GNOME and when i want from GNOME to configure network i can't because it replies wrong passwd
[07:34] <DuffyX56> sweet :D I got it!
[07:34] <ignas> how can it happen - i got an error in my partition table - part 1 starts on cyl 1 and ends on cyl 11640, part2 starts on 11635 (they overlap), the first partition was ntfs so i ntfsresized it to a smaller size, though it's start/end cylinders didn't change :/
[07:34] <gnomefreak> gmaksim,  are you using your user password?
[07:34] <The_Isle_of_Mark> DuffyX56, good on ya
[07:34] <nickrud> encompass, you could try using sudo netstat -plant to see what programs are accessing the net
[07:34] <ignas> is there a way to fix such error
[07:34] <Tuntis> erm, gmaksim, I'm not sure but you could try sudo -s in Konsole?
[07:34] <gmaksim> where
[07:34] <encompass> bad ps format
[07:34] <gnomefreak> gmaksim, are you in terminal?
[07:35] <DuffyX56> now it says put in the installer disc and press enter...should i?
[07:35] <gmaksim> i am now in windows 2003 server
[07:35] <khalif> detecting hardware......no ethernet card found..
[07:35] <Dashnak> Uhhhh, hello people, can anyone lend  me ahand with PPC?
[07:35] <encompass> nothing
[07:35] <The_Isle_of_Mark> DuffyX56, yeah sure, you can do it that way
[07:35] <gnomefreak> gmaksim,  windows doesnt have gnome now i am confused
[07:35] <DuffyX56> alright. it won't screw anything up huh?
[07:35] <nickrud> lol
[07:35] <Tuntis> Gnomefreak, he has a dualboot (?)
[07:35] <gnomefreak> Tuntis, ???????
[07:35] <erUSUL> ignas, if you are brave redit the partition table with parted you may try gpart first
[07:35] <encompass> I can't find the source
[07:35] <Red-Sox> snorks: ?
[07:36] <The_Isle_of_Mark> encompass it will say that, ok how often is it producing the queries?
[07:36] <khalif> it says Firewire interface is present but I don't have any firewire ports
[07:36] <encompass> it is full of them
[07:36] <gnomefreak> Tuntis, only way to fix gnome is to use gnome
[07:36] <encompass> they won't stop
[07:36] <DuffyX56> meh, i'll try it
[07:36] <Dashnak> anyone there?
[07:36] <encompass> I feel helpless
[07:36] <gnomefreak> khalif, thats fine
[07:36] <Dashnak> hellooooooo
[07:36] <gmaksim> for now i haven't configured internet in linux so i am in windows 2003
[07:36] <Tuntis> ermh, I think he's asking for help via Windows and then going to try in Ubuntu
[07:36] <gnomefreak> enable all of them khalif
[07:36] <HappyFool> Dashnak: if anyone knows, they'll respond
[07:36] <khalif> should I enable firewire ethernet anyway?
[07:36] <nickrud> encompass, sorry, wrong command, a sec
[07:36] <gmaksim> i have dual boot on my laptop
[07:36] <Dashnak> ok
[07:36] <gnomefreak> gmaksim,  to fix gnome you have to use linux
[07:36] <HappyFool> encompass: are you running any apps? like firefox?
[07:37] <encompass> no
[07:37] <encompass> just gaim
[07:37] <Tuntis> Khalif, you should enable Firewire incase you use digital video camcoders
[07:37] <encompass> with irc
[07:37] <Tuntis> or something like that
[07:37] <khalif> cool
[07:37] <gmaksim> yes but i don't know how to fix gnome so i am here to find out
[07:37] <nickrud> encompass, sudo netstat -tp ; you can wrap that in watch and see what's happening
[07:37] <gnomefreak> gmaksim,  when it askes for your password type in your user password
[07:37] <The_Isle_of_Mark> encompass, do a netstat -p | grep ftp
[07:37] <ignas> erUSUL, parted takes parameters in what ?
[07:37] <gmaksim> but it asks root passwd not normal user passwd
[07:37] <khalif> Ok I'm on partioning part:
[07:37] <khalif> Erase entire disk?
[07:37] <DuffyX56> got it...now, where is it?
[07:38] <gnomefreak> gmaksim, if in terminal type sudo <the caommand> <enter> than password for user account
[07:38] <khalif> Erase disk but use LVM?
[07:38] <encompass> got it
[07:38] <gnomefreak> khalif, ok does it say to auto partion?
[07:38] <ignas> erUSUL, parted throws Error: Unable to satisfy all constraints on the partition. error at me, because partitions overlap :/
[07:38] <gmaksim> what is the caommand?
[07:38] <The_Isle_of_Mark> encompass well, what is it?
[07:38] <khalif> or manually edit table?
[07:38] <encompass> nautilus, gnomepanel, and python
[07:38] <gnomefreak> no khalif dont use lvm
[07:38] <blanky_> hey guys is there a button in nautilus that when you click it it starts the console in that directory? or is there a script?
[07:38] <HappyFool> nickrud: eh, neat. didn't know about watch
[07:38] <gnomefreak> khalif,  neither
[07:38] <Liakoni> I have a problem with Jabber clients in Ubuntu. I can't sent files. I tried Gaim, Gajim, Gabber etc and nothing. I installed kopete and the file tranfer works just fine. Can anyone help?
[07:38] <gnomefreak> khalif,  you should see auto partion
[07:38] <nickrud> HappyFool, I heard about it last week :)
[07:38] <encompass> how do I stop them
[07:39] <gmaksim> what is the caommand?
[07:39] <The_Isle_of_Mark> encompass sudo killall -9 nautilus
[07:39] <nickrud> encompass, all of those are accessing the ftp site?
[07:39] <khalif> says: erase entire disk IDE1 master(hda)
[07:39] <gnomefreak> khalif, after you click auto partion you want to erase everything on the disk
[07:39] <gnomefreak> yes khalif
[07:39] <Thunderguy> I have this concern, bassically I locked the root account with 'passwd -l' and made sure I was in the sudoers file right? problem is I have errors on my partition and am in urgent need of fsck repairs, but when I go into emergency mode it asks me for a root password which I don't have since the account is locked! know what I could do? without sacrificing a security concern that someone knows 'root' is my administrator account?
[07:39] <encompass> let me paste bin the output
[07:39] <gnomefreak> gmaksim, the only thing you have said is that your password doesnt work
[07:39] <DuffyX56> Thanks guys...I'm starting to love linux :)
[07:40] <gmaksim> my root passwd in console works
[07:40] <The_Isle_of_Mark> DuffyX56, np man
[07:40] <khalif> ok it says that the following partitions will be formatted:
[07:40] <gnomefreak> gmaksim, there is no root in ubuntu
[07:40] <gnomefreak> click yes khalif
[07:40] <nExy> gnome
[07:40] <gmaksim> but when i need i type it when GNOME asks for it his reply is wrong passwd
[07:40] <khalif> Partition #1 of IDE1 master as ext3
[07:40] <DuffyX56> As soon as I get Linux in a nuttshell i'll be answering the questions :D
[07:40] <varsendagger> thunderguy
[07:40] <nExy> MPEG 1.0 layer III, 192 kbit/s, 44100 Hz stereo
[07:40] <nExy> Can't find a suitable libao driver. (Is device in use?)
[07:40] <gmaksim> yes there is
[07:40] <encompass> http://pastebin.com/447440
[07:40] <gnomefreak> khalif,  yes
[07:41] <khalif> Partition #5 of IDE1 master as swap
[07:41] <Thunderguy> yes?
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> gmaksim,  loging into X with GDM - as root is  also disabled.. even if you have a root password setup.
[07:41] <gmaksim> i have a root account
[07:41] <gnomefreak> khalif,  yes all that is fine
[07:41] <gmaksim> yes i know
[07:41] <gnomefreak> gmaksim,  you have enabled root along with sudo?
[07:41] <gmaksim> but i loged in GNOME with my normal user passwd account
[07:41] <HappyFool> Thunderguy: did you do an expert install ? or did you previously enable root ? by default it should be disabled
[07:41] <khalif> ok formatting...
[07:41] <gnomefreak> khalif,  ok good
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> I just love long drawn out question./answer sessions to find out what a user is really wanting to do. :P
[07:42] <Thunderguy> Happyfool: Expert install is the only thing that worked, for some reason basic install didn't work I was advised to disable root, so I did with passwd -l
[07:42] <nekostar> ya
[07:42] <nekostar> this thing is pretty smooth :D
[07:42] <gmaksim> and then i want to configure network from GNOME's administration and he asks for root passwd but his reply when i type it is bad or wrong root passwd
[07:42] <varsendagger> Thunderguy, you can do a sudo su and then you have CLI root privliges
[07:42] <qman|A64> Hello, I was wondering if anyone could help me compile ndiswrapper 1.6, or help find a workaround for my card
[07:42] <alfonce33> hi there:)
[07:42] <alfonce33> what's up?
[07:42] <The_Isle_of_Mark> encompass couple questions. is the ip address you are connected to your work? Have you been doing any spl queries on purpose, such as dev work or something?
[07:43] <khalif> intalling base system....
[07:43] <HappyFool> Thunderguy: ok. but you get asked for a password on recovery mode?
[07:43] <DuffyX56> crap, I screwed it up...I can't find it.
[07:43] <Thunderguy> varsendagger: My concern is emergency mode
[07:43] <nickrud> gmaksim, network manager is asking for *your* password, not root's
[07:43] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, dont compile apt-get it
[07:43] <gnomefreak> gmaksim,  when gnome asked did you use your user password?
[07:43] <gmaksim> no
[07:43] <ben_> hello
[07:43] <HappyFool> Thunderguy: or is the problem that you *don't* get asked for a password?
[07:43] <gmaksim> because i tried it
[07:43] <gnomefreak> gmaksim,  use your user password
[07:43] <qman|A64> Mark: I can't, because I am not connected to the internet, because my card wont work with ndiswrapper 1.1
[07:43] <gmaksim> it doesn't work
[07:43] <Thunderguy> HappyFool: Yes, hmm could it be that I should remove a password before locking the account?
[07:43] <alfonce33> anyone know how to setup a small home network on Ubuntu?
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> Heh - i must really be bad - i set up root and my first (only) users passwords to  be the same.
[07:43] <gmaksim> he is asking for root passwd
[07:43] <mannyman> Anyone succesfully updated to the latest openoffice ? help !
[07:44] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, I see
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> alfonce33,  install samba, read the 'using samba' book thts available online. is steps 1 and 2 :P
[07:44] <varsendagger> alfonce33, !samba
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> alfonce33,  rest - depends on what you really want to do.
[07:44] <gnomefreak> gmaksim, unless you manully made root possible in ubuntu there is no root
[07:44] <khalif> brb guys
[07:44] <varsendagger> !samba
[07:44] <ubotu> somebody said samba was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[07:44] <HappyFool> Thunderguy: i haven't used 'passwd -l'; i'll check the man page in a moment. When I boot into recovery mode I go straight to a root prompt with no password check
[07:44] <gnomefreak> hb khalif
[07:44] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, how about dling it on the machine you are on and transfering ir?
[07:44] <nickrud> gmaksim, try gksudo network-admin from a console; when the password request comes up, try typing your own personal passord
[07:44] <varsendagger> varsendagger, !samba
[07:44] <nickrud> s/console/terminal/
[07:44] <alfonce33> just really want to setup file sharing on both systems, and if I can access the info on my Windows directories
[07:45] <qman|A64> Mark: I can do that, but all I have is the ndiswrapper 1.6 source tarball
[07:45] <gmaksim> you can't log in GNOME with root account
[07:45] <gmaksim> i know that
[07:45] <jd__> Hey I have a reall big question?
[07:45] <gnomefreak> gmaksim,  ubuntu doesnt have a root account
[07:45] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, what kind of OS is on your machine you are using right now?
[07:45] <JonnyRo> Whats the best way to remote into my ubuntu system from somewhere else
[07:45] <varsendagger> alfonce33, chech out that samba link i had ubuntu pop out
[07:45] <Thunderguy> HappyFool: Yeah the problem is I 'had' to use expert mode, apt-get setup freezes the install on my system, even in the newest breezy so expert was the only one that worked, but at the same time I'm trying to default things back to how they would have been if I didn't use expert.
[07:45] <qman|A64> Mark: Windows XP Professional
[07:45] <jd__> Where do i find a web server or home networking server for the newest version of ubuntu
[07:45] <JonnyRo> Can I access the full gnome gui from another computer?
[07:45] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell gmaksim about root
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> JonnyRo,  VNC is a very handy tool for that.
[07:45] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell gmaksim about sudo
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> JonnyRo,  and ssh with putty.exe is a must get to learn tool also.
[07:46] <nekostar> !topic
[07:46] <gmaksim> but he asks for root passwd when you want to make some system configuration change from GNOME
[07:46] <JonnyRo> Dr_Willis: But will it show the full ubuntu gnome desktop, or some striped down XX term
[07:46] <nekostar> eh
[07:46] <Thunderguy> Happyfool: Which means testing to make sure I'm not messing things up while I'm doing that, which is why I tested single user and am pondering why it doesn't work.
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> JonnyRo,  Yes.. :P it can do either.
[07:46] <gnomefreak> gmaksim, forget you ever see the word root
[07:46] <nekostar> get the image from ubuntu.org jd__
[07:46] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, ok then dl the .deb on your machine and either burn it to cd or transfer with floppy. Can you do that?
[07:46] <gnomefreak> use your user password
[07:46] <HappyFool> Thunderguy: fair enough. FWIW, here's my entry for 'root' in /etc/shadow: root:*:13072:0:99999:7:::
[07:46] <gmaksim> and i tried it
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> JonnyRo,  for a remote vnc session - you may be better off using a nice light window manager.
[07:46] <gmaksim> it doesn't work as well
[07:47] <qman|A64> Mark: I can do that, but I can't find a .deb package for 1.6
[07:47] <qman|A64> only 1.1
[07:47] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, one second I'll find one for you
[07:47] <alfonce33> where do I find Samba guys...sorry i'm really new to the LInux family:$
[07:47] <khalif> back: you guys have to excuse the ignorance, I'm used to using OS X
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> alfonce33,  type "!samba" and read the bot message
[07:47] <alfonce33> !samba
[07:47] <ubotu> somebody said samba was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[07:47] <gnomefreak> gmaksim,  next time you pull up a terminal type the word "passwd" no quotes and reset user password and try again
[07:47] <HappyFool> Thunderguy: maybe try forcing your entry to be similar ('man shadow' says a * disables login)
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> alfonce33,  also google for the "using samba" book - its online and worth reading. (at least the first few chapters)
[07:48] <gmaksim> and if that doesn't work
[07:48] <gnomefreak> gmaksim, are you the person that installed ubuntu on that computer?
[07:48] <varsendagger> alfonce33, Samba is a program that allows you to share files across windows and linux
[07:48] <nickrud> ah, gnomefreak :)
[07:48] <gmaksim> yes
[07:48] <gnomefreak> gmaksim,  it will work if you type the word passwd as i typed it
[07:49] <Thunderguy> HappyFool: Thanks for the advice, yes I don't have an * I'll go ahead and copy that shadow entry as a default incase I can't figure it out any other way.
[07:49] <gmaksim> not that
[07:49] <khalif> 50% done with base install
[07:49] <gnomefreak> khalif,  ok good let me know if any errors pop up
[07:49] <gnomefreak> gmaksim,  not what?
[07:49] <gmaksim> if i change passwd and try in GNOME that again and that doesn't work
[07:49] <khalif> k
[07:49] <HappyFool> Thunderguy: i'd like to know why it asks for a password on recovery mode; let me know if you find out
[07:50] <gnomefreak> gmaksim,  if it doesnt work i would say reinstall it
[07:50] <mannyman> Anyone succesfully updated to the latest openoffice ? help !
[07:50] <Aesop> Morning, all
[07:50] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, uploading one to my server
[07:50] <mannyman> How do I update to the latest openoffice ?
[07:50] <Thunderguy> HappyFool: Sure I'll go try some things and figure out how to default back to that value without having to do it the hard way and change shadow, then inform you.
[07:50] <qman|A64> Mark: Thanks a lot
[07:51] <Rollaattori> umm..ok i'm really noob with this thing, so dont laugh too much..i closed amarok from "x" button and it went to system tray..how do i get it out of there? what do i need to click? lol
[07:51] <gnomefreak> gmaksim, if you installed it you are the user #1 that means your password rules over anyone elses when it asks for root you use your user password
[07:51] <slide> Does th sever install include Gnome or would i have to install that extra afterward?
[07:51] <blue-frog> Rollaattori, right click on the icon
[07:51] <gnomefreak> mannyman, are you using breezy?
[07:51] <Aesop> Does anyone have some ideas on getting a mouse with a lot of buttons to work? Specifically, a Logitech MX1000... Read a few guides on it, wound up having to reconfigure X after they failed.
[07:51] <mannyman> yes
[07:51] <Rollaattori> can't see any icon :\
[07:51] <recon0> when i use anjuta i get http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5341
[07:51] <blue-frog> Rollaattori, in system tray
[07:51] <gnomefreak> mannyman, sudo apt-get upgrade should give you any updates for office
[07:52] <Rollaattori> i can only see weather, multi desktops and trashcan :\
[07:52] <mannyman> sorry, I need the latest stable release becuase of multilang
[07:52] <mannyman> not just updates
[07:52] <mannyman> I didn't mean updates even though I said it
[07:52] <blue-frog> slide, if u choose server install, ther's no need for gdm afterwards.
[07:52] <Rollaattori> or am i looking from wrong place lol
[07:52] <gnomefreak> mannyman, openoffice in breezy is the most recent stable release of open office
[07:53] <blue-frog> slide, if you want a server with gdm choose the normal install, will save you time
[07:53] <recon0> my anjuta problem is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5341
[07:53] <mannyman> gnomefreak, the openoffice with breazy is a pre-release
[07:53] <slide> okay, thats what i was wondering
[07:53] <slide> thanks :)
[07:53] <mannyman> it's actually 1.9
[07:53] <gnomefreak> mannyman,  i think dapper has same openoffice as ubuntu
[07:53] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, still there?
[07:53] <qman|A64> yes
[07:54] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, ok here you go http://verovox.com/ndiswrapper-utils_1.1-4ubuntu2_i386.deb
[07:54] <blue-frog> slide, otherwise u can add ubuntu-desktop from apt-get but then u will be at the stage of a normal install, so...
[07:54] <qman|A64> thanks a bunch Mark
[07:54] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, transfer that to your machine and I'll help you if you want
[07:54] <slide> blue-frog, Is there a way to then add all the stuff the server install would have installed?
[07:54] <mannyman> there has to be a way to upgrade brezy's openoffice, someone .. c'mon
[07:54] <HappyFool> mannyman: looks like you'll need to install it yourself; i don't see OOo 2 in breezy-backports (yet?)
[07:54] <gnomefreak> mannyman, thats what ubuntu has with it im sure you can try openoffice.org website but if dappers is newer you wont see it for breezy for a while
[07:55] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, do you know how to configure it?
[07:55] <blue-frog> slide the server install adds nothing that ubuntu doesn't have
[07:55] <mannyman> ok, thanks
[07:55] <slide> blue-frog, it doesnt automatically setup stuff?
[07:55] <gnomefreak> mannyman, there is a way but by the laws of this chat i cant say try this cause it can and mostlikely will break since it hasnt been tested
[07:55] <blue-frog> slide, it just do a minimal install and then you have to install all u need
[07:55] <qman|A64> Mark: Yes, I know how to configure it, but for some reason, the version I have will not cooperate with my card
[07:55] <slide> ahh ok
[07:55] <opnsrc> How do you unmount a drive?
[07:56] <opnsrc> There is no unmount option
[07:56] <qman|A64> Mark: I know my card and my driver are correct because I have used them on a knoppix liveCD
[07:56] <slide> blue-frog, thanks :)
[07:56] <blue-frog> slide, meaning there will be no bind or whatsoever preconfigured
[07:56] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, ok let me know if you need anything else...did you get the file ok?
[07:56] <HappyFool> opnsrc: the command is 'umount'
[07:56] <varsendagger> opnsrc, umount
[07:56] <mannyman> gnomefreak, not even a google search word ?
[07:56] <mannyman> link ?
[07:56] <gnomefreak> mannyman,  o
[07:56] <opnsrc> Thanks
[07:56] <gnomefreak> no
[07:56] <khalif> copying remaining packages.....
[07:56] <djk_> mannyman: what do you want to do?
[07:56] <gnomefreak> djk_, he wants OOo 2
[07:56] <mannyman> this version of openoffice in breezy is buggy
[07:56] <djk_> gnomefreak: and what is the problem?
[07:56] <HappyFool> mannyman: try openoffice.org
[07:57] <djk_> mannyman: add the OOo2 repos
[07:57] <mannyman> the latest I tried on Mandfrake supports multilang fab
[07:57] <gnomefreak> i have a source for it but its not tested yet
[07:57] <blue-frog> slide so if you're not familiar with command line u'd better install ubuntu and then install your server apps. the loss is approximately 128 Mb of ram (gdm + xorg)
[07:57] <mannyman> Mandriva
[07:57] <gnomefreak> its not part of sources list for a reason
[07:57] <mannyman> djk_, how ?
[07:57] <slide> blue-frog, im familiar with cmdline (been using linux for 5 years heh) but this server wont have that much load
[07:58] <opnsrc> thanks
[07:58] <syndicate> which username and password should i use in windows when trying to access my linux shares?
[07:58] <gnomefreak> seeing as that OOo in breezy is the latest stable version i dont see how you will get more stable
[07:58] <khalif> brb
[07:58] <gnomefreak> khalif,  hb
[07:58] <_kismet_> Hi All! I have to use SUN JDK 1.3.1 and when I run javah and javac I get :  error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2
[07:58] <mannyman> gnomefreak, it is definitely not
[07:58] <mannyman> it is 1.9
[07:58] <mannyman> though it wil say 2.0
[07:58] <mannyman> but it's pre-release for sure
[07:58] <djk_> !sources
[07:58] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:58] <mike_g> How do you pronounce "Ubuntu"?
[07:58] <DuffyX56> well, later.
[07:58] <djk_> mannyman: go to source-o-matic
[07:59] <gnomefreak> mannyman, it is latest STABLE release if there were updates to bring it up to 2.0 you would know
[07:59] <_kismet_> Hi All! I have to use SUN JDK 1.3.1 and when I run javah and javac I get :  error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 any tips?
[07:59] <djk_> mannyman: there's a OOo2repo
[07:59] <HappyFool> mike_g: oo-BOON-too (stress on second syllable)
[07:59] <gnomefreak> djk_,  i have it but i was told it is not stable at all and untested
[07:59] <mannyman> where?
[07:59] <djk_> gnomefreak: wrong.
[07:59] <mike_g> thanks Happy
[07:59] <mannyman> djk_, shoot ...
[08:00] <blanky_> does anyone here have steam installed with wine?
[08:00] <emil> !repos
[08:00] <ubotu> [repos]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[08:00] <gnomefreak> djk_,  i will paste sources list in pastebin than
[08:00] <djk_> mannyman: scroll down on that site, mark the OOo2 repo, and click on gimme source.list
[08:00] <mannyman> ok , thanks
[08:00] <HappyFool> _kismet_: maybe use a newer jdk ?
[08:00] <HappyFool> !tell _kismet_ about javadeb
[08:01] <HappyFool> maybe seveas hosts those too, i'm not sure
[08:01] <qman|A64> ok, I am still not getting anything...
[08:01] <mannyman> !easysource
[08:01] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:01] <_kismet_> HappyFool, I cann't use a new one :(
[08:01] <djk_> mannyman: if you want even more recent OOo2 debs compiled for debian go to http://ftp.linux.cz/pub/localization/OpenOffice.org/devel/680/
[08:01] <khalif> back
[08:01] <qman|A64> I did a dpkg -i ndiswrapper-utils...
[08:01] <khalif> sill installing packages
[08:01] <gnomefreak> here is my list and i was told the ones under backports were unstable
[08:01] <gnomefreak> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5342
[08:01] <Jonex> How do I set up ssh on ubutnu as simple as possible?
[08:02] <HappyFool> _kismet_: ah, i missed the 'have to use'
[08:02] <qman|A64> ndiswrapper -i /driver/lstinds.inf
[08:02] <nExy> how do i install
[08:02] <qman|A64> modprobe ndiswrapper
[08:02] <nExy> libao2 0.8.3-1 ? on ubuntu
[08:02] <qman|A64> the card won't power up
[08:02] <gnomefreak> khalif,  it will for a while
[08:02] <HappyFool> _kismet_: paste the output of 'ldd $(which javac)' (or whatever java app) on the pastebin (paste.ubuntulinux.nl)
[08:02] <djk_> gnomefreak: the one under backports maybe, but not the one from your last line
[08:03] <gnomefreak> so that repo has been tested and is good?
[08:03] <varsendagger> !xen
[08:03] <mannyman> djk_, you're great man
[08:04] <djk_> gnomefreak: it should not cause problems. i dont use it though
[08:05] <gnomefreak> djk_,  i was told to not give it for the reasons stated above if i would have known better i would have given it without a problem
[08:06] <djk_> gnomefreak: but the source-o-matic also statest that it's a "test package" and one should use it with caution.
[08:06] <gnomefreak> test=unstable?
[08:06] <djk_> gnomefreak: well, i was told that it is indeed okay to use.
[08:06] <_kismet_> HappyFool, I found that both javac and javah are symbolic links to a bash script that then excute: bin/i386/native_threads/javac
[08:07] <khalif> instlling GRUB
[08:07] <qman|A64> Mark, I instaled the deb package, ndiswrapper -i /driver/lstinds.inf, modprobe ndiswrapper, but the card still won't power up
[08:07] <HappyFool> _kismet_: ok, any clues if you run ldd on that?
[08:07] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, hey sorry, wife needed help.
[08:07] <qman|A64> no problem
[08:07] <gnomefreak> test to me means not yet stable and thats what my thing was about if it is unstable i dont need him somming back saying "you screwed up my pc with that source"
[08:07] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, ndiswrapper -l
[08:07] <gnomefreak> khalif,  good
[08:08] <sorush20> hi guys
[08:08] <Silencer> I need pkg for vim to have interapter in editing html, c. c++, perl, php files
[08:08] <khalif> ok going into second portion of install without CD-ROM
[08:08] <Silencer> somebody know what I need to install ?
[08:08] <qman|A64> Installed ndis drivers:
[08:08] <qman|A64> lstinds driver present, hardware present
[08:08] <_kismet_> HappyFool, so the ldd on bin/i386/native_threads/javac is the following:http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5343
[08:08] <gnomefreak> khalif,  good give that about 20 or so minutes depending on you processer
[08:08] <emil> !nvidia
[08:08] <ubotu> well, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[08:09] <khalif> it's a Pentium III
[08:09] <recon0> can somebody help me with anjuta: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5341
[08:09] <khalif> I told you this thing was old
[08:09] <xzy2ob> i have a problem, i need to get a hand on the kernel source code for the kernel that is installed by default in ubuntu. how can this be achived with apt-get?
[08:09] <gnomefreak> i have a P2 at 450 it takes around 25 minutes
[08:09] <djk_> gnomefreak: yea of course, but there shouldn't occur any problems
[08:09] <rambo3> how can i force ubuntu to register my onboard sound card to register as a sound card . in device manager it says device unknown. and how do i see if there are irw problems
[08:09] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, ok good
[08:10] <qman|A64> its a PCMCIA card, if thats of any relevancy
[08:10] <HappyFool> _kismet_: does 'locate libjvm.so' reveal anything?
[08:10] <gnomefreak> djk_,  i have them on my site with warnings out the ass just incase cause its not concidred a offical source
[08:10] <sorush20> guys if I have dhclient3 and not dhcp installed will the interfaces load properly or not? My experience is no they will not load properly.
[08:10] <djk_> gnomefreak: hehe, nice.
[08:10] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, yeah it is, but lets see..do a sudo iwconfig wlan0 up
[08:10] <djk_> gnomefreak: what's your site?
[08:11] <gnomefreak> www.freewebs.com/joeboxernc
[08:11] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, oops sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[08:11] <AlexRM> Hey, Guys I need help - I was following this guide: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#installatidriver
[08:11] <AlexRM> and after I did it, and restarted my PC, it said X could not be started!
[08:11] <Red-Sox> snorks: hi
[08:11] <qman|A64> Error : unrecognized wireless request "up"
[08:11] <Thunderguy> HappyFool: For an expert setup the only way to return to the default sudo usage is to A: edit the sudoers file with 'visudo' as root and place your primary user account in there with all priveledges or 'user   ALL=(ALL) ALL', then edit the shadow file, put an * as root..
[08:11] <AlexRM> (I was installing ATI Drivers)
[08:11] <Toran> What is a good binary news downloader I could use? I'm not afraid of command-line stuff, I'd just like something that works and isn't too hard to use
[08:11] <qman|A64> ifconfig goes without error
[08:11] <nExy> hey alex
[08:11] <AlexRM> Hi,
[08:11] <nExy> got aim ?
[08:12] <AlexRM> no
[08:12] <HappyFool> Thunderguy: thanks. your system is working as desired now?
[08:12] <AlexRM> why?
[08:12] <Thunderguy> HappyFool: or rather an * in the second field.
[08:12] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, ok do sudo ifconfig and see if the card shows up
[08:12] <nExy> id help u over aim
[08:12] <AlexRM> why not in here?
[08:12] <_kismet_> HappyFool, I have several version of Java installaed on my system  so I'm able to find more the on libjvm.so
[08:12] <qman|A64> Mark, it shows up, but has no ip assigned or any packets transferred at all
[08:12] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, ok cool
[08:12] <Thunderguy> HappyFool: Not really, I got single user and emergency mode to work fine, but there is something it won't let me do... unmount my root partition, I happen to know there are errors in the superblock.. but I can't unmount it even under emergency mode.
[08:13] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, do a sudo iwconfig wlan0 scan
[08:13] <HappyFool> Thunderguy: hmm. d'you have a live cd ?
[08:13] <HappyFool> _kismet_: do the bash scripts set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable ?
[08:13] <Thunderguy> HappyFool: I do, think it's the only option at this point?
[08:13] <soundray> Is anyone running vdr in Ubuntu?
[08:13] <HappyFool> Thunderguy: well, i think it's probably the easiest
[08:13] <_kismet_> HappyFool, anyway the founed libjvm relate to jdk 1.3.1 are: /opt/java/jdk1.3.1_16/jre/lib/i386/client/libjvm.so
[08:13] <_kismet_>  /opt/java/jdk1.3.1_16/jre/lib/i386/server/libjvm.so
[08:13] <_kismet_>  /opt/java/jdk1.3.1_16/jre/lib/i386/classic/libjvm.so
[08:14] <qman|A64> Error : unrecognized wireless request "scan"
[08:14] <AlexRM> Hey, Guys I need help - I was following this guide: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#installatidriver and after I did it, and restarted my PC, it said X could not be started!
[08:14] <Thunderguy> HappyFool: Well thanks again for the help, I'll got boot Damn Small Linux and fix the partition.
[08:14] <HappyFool> Thunderguy: cool. good luck
[08:14] <sorush20> guys my cups will not load when I'm trying to load the kde printer manager can anyone help please?
[08:14] <Thunderguy> thanks.
[08:14] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, ok, try the gui. do gksudo wifi-radar
[08:15] <AlexRM> Anyone? Please help me - I just got Ubuntu up and running and now I can't use it!
[08:15] <HappyFool> _kismet_: ok, how about this: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/java/jdk1.3.1_16/jre/lib/i386/client ldd /usr/bin/i386/native_threads/javac
[08:15] <qman|A64> ok...it does nothing
[08:15] <The_Isle_of_Mark> nothing at all?
[08:15] <qman|A64> nothing at all
[08:15] <qman|A64> no error, no window, nothing
[08:15] <Toran> What is a good binary news downloader I could use? I'm not afraid of command-line stuff, I'd just like something that works and isn't too hard to use
[08:15] <varsendagger> AlexRM,
[08:15] <Burk> hello
[08:15] <HappyFool> _kismet_: (adapt path to javac as necessary)
[08:15] <AlexRM> varsendagger, yes?
[08:15] <varsendagger> AlexRM, what is happening?
[08:15] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, do you have it installed?
[08:16] <mannyman> excuse my newbiness, but what are sources and would I need them ?
[08:16] <AlexRM> varsendagger, I was following the 5.10 wiki on how to install ATI Drivers
[08:16] <tman_ubuntu> Is it possible to mount an external hard drive with both samba and nfs using one location path?
[08:16] <user_anon> when i run anjuta's "build distribution" i get "Makefile.am:6: AM_GNU_GETTEXT" in `configure.in' but `intl' not in SUBDIRS
[08:16] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, nm, lets do it from the command line
[08:16] <qman|A64> ok
[08:16] <sam_> using breezy, how would I make and icon for Opera or put it in the internet menu?
[08:16] <AlexRM> varsendagger, I followed it through, restarted my PC and it says X will not start
[08:16] <nickrud> !tell mannyman about components
[08:16] <varsendagger> mannyman, eventually
[08:16] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, then you can install wifi-radar if you need to
[08:17] <varsendagger> AlexRM, i'm not sure what's happening
[08:17] <Doomhammer> how can I edit /etc/resolv.conf ? the networking panel in gnome doesn't do anything, and if i edit it by hand it just gets replaced after a couple hours
[08:18] <JonnyRo> Doomhammer: it's getting replaced probably by the dhcp daemon
[08:18] <soundray> I'm looking for someone who has tried vdr in Ubuntu. Anyone?
[08:18] <Goshawk> what about asus card reader on linux?
[08:18] <JonnyRo> Doomhammer: did you switch over to static/
[08:18] <khalif> gnomefreak: hey if I can get this to work on the Thinkpad, do you think it'd be ok to install it on a desktop with a Pentium I chip?
[08:18] <JonnyRo> ?
[08:18] <AlexRM> varsendagger, if I was to do sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup  /etc/X11/xorg.conf - would that work?
[08:18] <ltibor65> Hy everybody! Who of you have Ubuntu 5.10 installed on his computer? I have problems!
[08:18] <mannyman> ok, I actually meant "source" as oppsed to "package" ?!
[08:18] <varsendagger> i would think so
[08:18] <Doomhammer> JonnyRo: where would I switch to static ? it didn't ask during install, and as i said, the networking panel doesn't do anything
[08:18] <AlexRM> i'll go try it
[08:18] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, sorry wife again :)
[08:18] <mannyman> so again , excuse my newbiness, but what are sources and would I need them ?
[08:18] <gnomefreak> khalif,  P1 with enough ram will still be slow but should be ok
[08:18] <qman|A64> no problem Mark
[08:19] <qman|A64> I appreciate the help
[08:19] <soundray> mannyman, sources could refer to source code, in which case you don't need it.
[08:19] <mannyman> thanks
[08:19] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, ok, so do you know your essid and wep key?
[08:19] <JonnyRo> Doomhammer: use the network panel to change to "static IP address", turn off automatically assigned, then configure your gateway, ip address, and DNS server that you want to use, save then reboot
[08:19] <khalif> I haven't used it in forever. It's got Windoze 95 on it.
[08:19] <JonnyRo> t
[08:19] <varsendagger> mannyman, sources are the code that you can compile and make packages out of
[08:19] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, assuming you use wep
[08:19] <JonnyRo> if that doesnt work, let me know and we'll try something else
[08:19] <soundray> mannyman, but sometimes repositories are called sources (as in sources.list).
[08:19] <mannyman> true
[08:19] <mannyman> very true
[08:19] <qman|A64> I don't use any encryption, but I do know the SSID
[08:20] <nickrud> mannyman, in this case, sources are lists of packages that you can download
[08:20] <varsendagger> most everything that you would need is in synaptic
[08:20] <khalif> I need to get a monitor for it and see how much RAM is on it....
[08:20] <mannyman> got it !
[08:20] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, ok do this sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode Managed
[08:20] <khalif> brb again..
[08:20] <gabriel> holaaa
[08:20] <qman|A64> ok
[08:20] <nickrud> mannyman, /etc/apt/sources.list is where these lists are found :)
[08:20] <sorush20> guys I had made the partitions so that my home would be on hda3 and my root would be on hda1 now I have all these partitions loaded, but in hda1, there is a home folder I'm not sure if the system is setup right so that all my documents would be saved to the hda3 rather than the hda1 /home. In hda3 I have a lost+found folder and a home folder called by my user name sorush3 can any one enlighten me please?
[08:20] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid <your essid>
[08:20] <tman_ubuntu> I'll ask again.  Is it possible to mount an external harddrive with both nfs and samba using the same path?
[08:21] <mannyman> thanks, you're great all of you
[08:21] <soundray> mannyman, in special cases it may be useful to compile your own package x, in which case you do apt-get source x to get the prerequisite source code.
[08:21] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, are you using dhcp on your wap?
[08:21] <qman|A64> ok
[08:21] <qman|A64> yes
[08:21] <mannyman> so that's it !
[08:21] <varsendagger> mannyman, but when you find something that the ubuntu community hasn't ported over to the repos
[08:21] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, ok do a sudo dhclient
[08:21] <mannyman> uh huh
[08:21] <Doomhammer> JonnyRo: doing what you said appears to have worked... just hope the file doesn't get re-written :)
[08:21] <varsendagger> then you'll need to use the sources
[08:21] <Doomhammer> JonnyRo: i'm used to Gentoo, where i can go in and edit it manually :P
[08:21] <varsendagger> comeback and ask about that in a bit
[08:22] <ltibor65> Hi! How can I watch mpeg2 files and listen to mp3 on Ubuntu 5.10?
[08:22] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, did you get an ip?
[08:22] <Doomhammer> ltibor65: for MP3's, i like to use XMMS
[08:22] <qman|A64> ok, its discovering, but no results
[08:22] <qman|A64> the power light on my card is out
[08:22] <varsendagger> ltibor65, gmplayer and xmms
[08:22] <soundray> !tell ltibor65 about restricted formats
[08:22] <qman|A64> no offers recieved
[08:22] <Doomhammer> ltibor65: for mpeg2, try MPlayer or VideoLAN VLC (VLC is my favorite)
[08:23] <soundray> ltibor65, read ubotu's message as well
[08:23] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, what card is it?
[08:23] <freemanen> is there anything like spotlight in ubuntu reportiaries?
[08:23] <qman|A64> Linksys WPC54G with TI ACX111 chipset
[08:24] <_kismet_> HappyFool, maybe now worked
[08:24] <qman|A64> I downloaded the drivers recommended on the ndiswrapper wiki
[08:24] <ltibor65> soundray, with totem can I listen to mp3?
[08:24] <emil> !mp3
[08:24] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats.
[08:24] <tman_ubuntu> Does anyone here know anything about NFS and Samba?
[08:24] <soundray> Hey, I don't even need support, I'd just like to know whether any of you have tried vdr.
[08:24] <Tuntis> Hey
[08:24] <_kismet_> HappyFool, I installaed the packages libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 and then I had to execute  sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2
[08:24] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, where did you get the driver?
[08:24] <christs_> What exactly is unfree about mp3 btw?
[08:24] <soundray> ltibor65, apparently so. I use beep-media-player, though.
[08:24] <Tuntis> HappyFool!
[08:25] <EmmesHEMI> using dapper.  the upgrade wednesday or so completely eliminated my wireless card.  iwconfig shows no wlan0 not does ifconfig, it was there and working fine before.  Any ideas how to get it back?  i do see it in the PCI list in KInfoCenter, just not anywhere else
[08:25] <Tuntis> the problem is, when editing the files I need to execute an command, mkinitramfs
[08:25] <blue-frog> tman_ubuntu, if you feel like it, why not..
[08:25] <HappyFool> _kismet_: ok. well done ;)
[08:25] <ltibor65> soundray, have you Ubuntu?
[08:25] <Tuntis> to recreate initrd.img
[08:25] <HappyFool> Tuntis: ok
[08:25] <sorush20> could someone say my name please?
[08:25] <qman|A64> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[08:25] <Tuntis> so how would I do that?
[08:25] <EmmesHEMI> sorush20
[08:25] <blue-frog> sorush20, u see it's in red alright..
[08:25] <shinu> what vnc client do you recommend?
[08:25] <soundray> ltibor65, sure. Would I be here otherwise? :)
[08:25] <_kismet_> HappyFool,  at least now I do not get the error and also no segmentation foult so I think that it's working :)
[08:25] <pratyk> soundray: BMPx player asks fo X11 headers where can i get it?
[08:25] <tman_ubuntu> Well when I set up an NFS, it seem to override samba settings.
[08:25] <qman|A64> ftp://ftp.linksys.com/pub/network/wpc54gv2_driver_utility_v2.02.zip
[08:25] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, grab this one ftp://ftp.linksys.com/pub/network/wpc54g_v2_driver_utility_v2.0.zip
[08:26] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64,  heheh ok
[08:26] <soundray> pratyk, I cannot quite believe that. Did you apt-get install beep-media-player ?
[08:26] <HappyFool> Tuntis: i think something like 'mkinitramfs -o myinitrd.img' might work
[08:26] <emil> !codecs
[08:26] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[08:26] <qman|A64> I'll compare the filesizes of that one because the filename si different
[08:26] <ale3hs> my router has security options: WPA/WPA2 - PERSONEL (PSK), 128bit WEP and 64bit WEP ..how I set up my wireless to connect with these protocols?  	
[08:26] <blue-frog> tman_ubuntu, override? which means?
[08:26] <ale3hs> 
[08:26] <HappyFool> Tuntis: run 'man mkinitramfs' to check how the program works
[08:26] <ltibor65> soundray, i installed lame 3.97, but totem dos'nt work with it.
[08:27] <pratyk> soundray: no from the source
[08:27] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, is this the driver lsbcmnds.inf?
[08:27] <Tuntis> ok
[08:27] <qman|A64> no, it is lctinds.inf
[08:27] <varsendagger> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[08:27] <varsendagger> what does that mean?
[08:27] <soundray> ltibor65, lame is an *en*coder. You don't need it for playing.
[08:27] <ale3hs> basically with the WPA??
[08:27] <tman_ubuntu> blue frog: I have /media/usbdisk set up as a samba share.  When I setup NFS on /media/usbdisk my samba settings disappear.
[08:27] <HappyFool> varsendagger: it means you need to install 'build-essential'
[08:27] <soundray> pratyk, any special reason why you need to install from source?
[08:27] <emil> !easysource
[08:27] <ubotu> rumour has it, easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:27] <ltibor65> But a decoder must I have.
[08:27] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, one sec gonna go check my laptop...same card I think, I used a different driver
[08:28] <qman|A64> ok
[08:28] <pratyk> soundray: my pctel modem doesnot work in linux. do u have any idea?
[08:28] <JonnyRo> :44.03 XFree86
[08:28] <JonnyRo>  3683 root      17   0  2064  956 1852 R  2.5  3.2   0:04.71 top
[08:28] <JonnyRo>  3165 root      15   0  5864 1004 5048 S  1.5  3.4   0:06.65 xterm
[08:28] <JonnyRo>  2591 root      15   0  7468 1300 5796 S  0.9  4.4   0:13.04 irssi
[08:28] <JonnyRo> sorry guys
[08:28] <JonnyRo> bad mouse click
[08:28] <tman_ubuntu> blue frog:  I'm also using the "folder shares" from within gnome by the way.
[08:28] <sorush20> I didn't hear a sound when you guys said my name let me change the preferences
[08:28] <nExy> how do i install OGG
[08:28] <varsendagger> HappyFool, thanks
[08:28] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, gonna have to get it from the car and boot it up...it'll take a minute or two
[08:28] <qman|A64> ok, no problem
[08:29] <soundray> pratyk, not at all, but look at http://linmodems.org/.
[08:29] <ale3hs> someone help me with the wireless plz?
[08:29] <AlexRM> Hey,
[08:29] <AlexRM> im following the guide to install ATI drivers...and it says to ...
[08:29] <AlexRM> nstall the xorg-driver-fglrx package
[08:29] <sorush20> oh I did year a sound I just didn't expect it to be so bad like a nasty alarm..
[08:29] <AlexRM> there is no package called that, yet there is a package called fglrx
[08:30] <pratyk> soundray:is x11 headers provided in cd
[08:30] <AlexRM> how do I configure my ATI card when I installed ATI Drivers?
[08:31] <nExy> alex
[08:31] <nExy> goto the
[08:31] <nExy> www.ati.com website
[08:31] <nExy> download the linux drivers
[08:31] <nExy> install them
[08:31] <sorush20> guys I had made the partitions so that my home would be on hda3 and my root would be on hda1 now I have all these partitions loaded, but in hda1, there is a home folder I'm not sure if the system is setup right so that all my documents would be saved to the hda3 rather than the hda1 /home. In hda3 I have a lost+found folder and a home folder called by my user name sorush3 can any one enlighten me please?
[08:31] <nExy> and run there console script
[08:31] <nExy> and it will config everything for u
[08:31] <AlexRM> wont the ones in Synaptic do?
[08:31] <soundray> Yes, I think there is a package that provides it. apt-get build-dep beep-media-player would get it for you. But I really recommend installing the binary package.
[08:31] <Owner> Alright, my friend has a Dell Triton Inspiron notebook, and when we installed ubuntu (im a fellow linux nerd) on his system, it didn't pick up his wireless connection... the wireless card is: Linksys Wireless-B 2.4 ghz
[08:31] <nExy> unless u wanna give me ssh ill do it for u
[08:32] <AlexRM> no, lol
[08:32] <flodine> help guy want to load ubuntu but i want a good wireless card that works well with ubuntu
[08:32] <qman|A64> Mark: I finished downloading your link, it is the exact same package that I have
[08:32] <nExy> ok
[08:32] <AlexRM> what the hell...
[08:32] <AlexRM> ATI have released drivers for Vista..
[08:32] <flodine> help
[08:32] <nExy> what the hell what
[08:32] <AlexRM> it's not even out
[08:32] <nExy> yes it is
[08:32] <pratyk> soundray: where can i get the deb binary
[08:32] <AlexRM> beta?
[08:32] <nExy> yah
[08:32] <AlexRM> ahh
[08:32] <ltibor65> I have totem, but it plays only wav files, but mp3 and mpeg2 not.
[08:32] <nExy> its fucking bad ass 2
[08:33] <Owner> Alright, my friend has a Dell Triton Inspiron notebook, and when we installed ubuntu (im a fellow linux nerd) on his system, it didn't pick up his wireless connection... the wireless card is: Linksys Wireless-B 2.4 ghz
[08:33] <AlexRM> it's like XP on Steriods with a Face lift
[08:33] <nico8481> hi
[08:33] <nExy> no
[08:33] <nExy> the code was written from ground up
[08:33] <soundray> pratyk, it's in the universe repository.
[08:33] <AlexRM> so we can expect more bugs?
[08:33] <soundray> !tell pratyk about repositories
[08:33] <nExy> sure alex
[08:33] <nico8481> i'd like to buy a laptop and install ubuntu on it, any idea which ones are the best supported (hp? apple?)
[08:33] <flodine> help i need a wireless card that works with ubuntu
[08:33] <pratyk> soundray: thanks
[08:33] <nExy> theres alot for linux 2
[08:34] <Owner> Alright, my friend has a Dell Triton Inspiron notebook, and when we installed ubuntu (im a fellow linux nerd) on his system, it didn't pick up his wireless connection... the wireless card is: Linksys Wireless-B 2.4 ghz
[08:34] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, still there?
[08:34] <qman|A64> yes
[08:34] <AlexRM> there has to be an easier way to install linux drivers via Synaptic...
[08:34] <AlexRM> via ATI it means I gota install 32 bit and 64 bit
[08:34] <The_Isle_of_Mark> ok grep the files in /etc/ndiswrapper for RadioState
[08:34] <nExy> alex
[08:34] <nExy> im telling u
[08:34] <nExy> set up a sshd
[08:34] <nExy> and ill install it for u
[08:34] <flodine> does anyone use ubutnu on a wireless network
[08:35] <nExy> ive done it plenty of times
[08:35] <HappyFool> AlexRM: many people have success with the ubuntu supplied drivers
[08:35] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, send me a chat request and we'll go through it
[08:35] <Owner> so, I guess what im trying to say is, how do you make it to where you can connect to the wireless network?
[08:35] <AlexRM> sorry nExy no can do
[08:35] <nExy> alright then :)
[08:35] <The_Isle_of_Mark> Owner ndiswrapper
[08:35] <AlexRM> HappyFool, well I installed them but how to I set them up
[08:35] <EmmesHEMI> owner, easiest way is to reset your router to the defaults, no wep, no mac filtering
[08:35] <EmmesHEMI> then toy from there
[08:36] <flodine> can someone tell me a wireless card that works out the box with ubuntu?
[08:36] <nExy> u need to edit ur x11 config
[08:36] <HappyFool> AlexRM: i think you said earlier you followed the wiki instructions but X then failed to start?
[08:36] <Owner> The_Isle_of_Man do I just put that in terminal?
[08:36] <J4|\|> whats the minimum system requirements for ubuntu ?
[08:36] <AlexRM> HappyFool, yes, I then went back to the backup that the wiki told me to do
[08:36] <AlexRM> backup of xorg.conf
[08:36] <ltibor65> Boys, can anybody tell me a CD/DVD Burner for Ubuntu?
[08:36] <The_Isle_of_Mark> Owner do a google search for ndiswrapper and your card model....you'll find it
[08:36] <HappyFool> AlexRM: this is the page you were reading? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[08:36] <AlexRM> no
[08:36] <soundray> Hey, I'm running vdr experimental packages in Debian. It's fairly unstable and I can't get any 2.6 kernel to work. Is it worth switching to Ubuntu?
[08:36] <Owner> thanks The_Isle_of_Mark!
[08:37] <flodine> i guess ubuntu dont support wireless
[08:37] <emil> !w32codecs
[08:37] <The_Isle_of_Mark> Onwer np
[08:37] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, there?
[08:37] <AlexRM> HappyFool, I will follow that!
[08:37] <AlexRM> ATI Drivers for AMD64 are not available in Breezy
[08:37] <AlexRM> or not!
[08:37] <J4|\|> whats the minimum system requirements for ubuntu ?
[08:37] <Ethan> Hi
[08:37] <AlexRM> :( damm 64 bit
[08:37] <HappyFool> AlexRM: i imagine it's similar to help.ubuntu.com, but take a look and see
[08:37] <HappyFool> AlexRM: ah
[08:37] <blue-frog> J4|\|, same as windows xp
[08:37] <EmmesHEMI> ltibor65:  k3b is outstanding
[08:37] <soundray> AlexRM, I'm running fglrx in AMD64.
[08:37] <khalif> Ubuntu does support wireless?
[08:37] <Ethan> I would like to use winvnc on my windows, what does I need to install VNCserver or VNC4server ? :$
[08:37] <AlexRM> soundray, how?
[08:38] <qman|A64> Mark?
[08:38] <The_Isle_of_Mark> yeah
[08:38] <EmmesHEMI> yes khalif
[08:38] <soundray> AlexRM, just good luck I guess...
[08:38] <qman|A64> I can't initiate a DCC chat session, it just doesnt work, but thats another story
[08:38] <AlexRM> soundray, can you tell me how? I mean you didn't just sit there and suddenly you had them
[08:38] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, I'll send you a private chat so we dont have to see the channel stuyff
[08:38] <soundray> AlexRM, I think you need to activate universe and multiverse.
[08:38] <flodine> then whats a good wireless card that works out the box
[08:38] <qman|A64> ok
[08:38] <ltibor65> EmmesHEMI, does work k3b on Ubuntu?
[08:38] <AlexRM> soundray, I have
[08:38] <soundray> Then you need xorg-driver-fglrx, which does exist.
[08:38] <khalif> I've got a Belkin wireless card: you think I could find drivers for it?
[08:38] <Red-Sox> snorks: ?
[08:38] <Red-Sox> snorks: are you there?
[08:39] <kung> hi, is there a list of which patches are included in the ubuntu kernel?
[08:39] <blue-frog> Ethan, nc client if u want to access another pc
[08:39] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, hmm weird. but ok lets do it here
[08:39] <qman|A64> ok
[08:39] <soundray> AlexRM, then you need linux-restricted-modules for your kernel.
[08:39] <AlexRM> soundray, your not making sense. you say you have 64bit ATI Drivers, yet the package doesn't exist?
[08:39] <qman|A64> I did the grep thing but got no results so I probably did it wrong
[08:39] <flodine> so ubuntu is not as good as suse 10
[08:39] <EmmesHEMI> i run kubuntu, but it worked great and picked up my generic 2 year old dvd burner right away, you also need to install cdrdao
[08:39] <Ethan> blue-frog: I want to acces from my windows so I need the server, no?
[08:39] <HappyFool> AlexRM: you edited /etc/modules and /etc/X11/xorg.conf as indicated on the wiki?
[08:39] <aaarg> flodine: here link to supported cards https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[08:39] <blue-frog> ltibor65, yes it works
[08:39] <AlexRM> HappyFool, yes
[08:39] <qman|A64> I did grep RadioState /etc/ndiswrapper
[08:40] <sorush20> how can I get a window to maximize with out having to double click on the blue title bar. I want to be able to maximize form the keyboard.
[08:40] <Owner> Another question, can you use PupGet on ubuntu?
[08:40] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, look for all the .conf files in /etc/ndiswrapper and look for a section that says RadioState in them
[08:40] <soundray> AlexRM, no, read carefully, the package DOES exist
[08:40] <AlexRM> HappyFool, but then webt back to the old xorg.conf cos it messed up
[08:40] <qman|A64> ok
[08:40] <sorush20> !java
[08:40] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[08:40] <soundray> AlexRM, contrary to what you were saying earlier.
[08:40] <blue-frog> Ethan, yes or u just can use apps>internet>terminalserverclient from your linux
[08:40] <khalif> Gracias for the link! :)
[08:40] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, change RadioState to 1 where you find them
[08:40] <aaarg> flodine: i found ubuntu to be quite a bit better than suse 10.0, better wireless amoung others
[08:40] <HappyFool> AlexRM: X keeps logs in /var/log/Xorg.0.log -- can you reenable fglrx, restart X and paste the log to the pastebin ?
[08:40] <blue-frog> Ethan, u need to activate remote desktop on your xp
[08:40] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, that turns on the radio :)
[08:40] <AlexRM> soundray, the package...what ever you said - is not in my synaptic
[08:41] <AlexRM> HappyFool, in a min
[08:41] <qman|A64> there are two conf files and niether has RadioState
[08:41] <soundray> AlexRM, then you haven't got the required repo's.
[08:41] <AlexRM> I added all of them in from the wiki
[08:41] <sorush20> guys if I install the java software development kit will it also include the java run time environment?
[08:41] <ltibor65> blue-frog, I tried compile k3b for Ubuntu, but it requires kde-config. But there are not kde-config on Ubuntu.
[08:42] <HappyFool> AlexRM: fwiw, according to this: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/misc/xorg-driver-fglrx there is a xorg-driver-fglrx package for amd64. supported cards are listed at the top of that page
[08:42] <Ethan> sorush20: yup
[08:42] <soundray> AlexRM, Package: xorg-driver-fglrx ; Section: restricted/misc ; Architecture: amd64
[08:42] <blue-frog> ltibor65, no need to compile, use synaptic to install it
[08:42] <qman|A64> should I add RadioState|1 ? and where?
[08:42] <CFF> I have a question
[08:43] <Storkme_> help! i managed to remove my desktop selector from the taskbar
[08:43] <difeta> hi all I'm connecting to my office through pptp. I'm able to connect and the dns servers are detected and I'm assigned an ip address. But I cannot ping the dns servers or any of the internal ipaddresses on our network. Any ideas?
[08:43] <mysyfy> how can i change my nfts partition permissions ?
[08:43] <EmmesHEMI> ltibor65, also get cdrdao, it needs that to do the burn
[08:43] <Storkme_> i don't know how to get it back and i can't change desktops
[08:43] <Ethan> CFF: Ask and you might have an answer
[08:43] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, checking now
[08:43] <AlexRM> HappyFool, this is confusing. would you mind helping me from the start?
[08:44] <soundray> Storkme, it's called Workspace Switcher. Right click the panel and add it.
[08:44] <HappyFool> AlexRM: no problem
[08:44] <CFF> How do you access a Ubuntu web server; I have been having a hard time trying to upload stuff to my web server
[08:44] <AlexRM> HappyFool, thanks
[08:44] <ltibor65> blue-fog, what type of package need I to get for install with synaptic?
[08:44] <Storkme_> soundray,  thanks so much lol
[08:44] <Kain-ubuntu> Hello
[08:44] <mysyfy> by doing sudo chmod 755 /dev/hda1 output: changing permission
[08:44] <CFF> Hello
[08:44] <HappyFool> AlexRM: first, is the package xorg-driver-fglrx installed?
[08:44] <Kain-ubuntu> Can somebody help me
[08:44] <HappyFool> AlexRM: you can check in synaptic
[08:44] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, add it to all of the conf files
[08:44] <Storkme> that was scary
[08:44] <Kain-ubuntu> I just fired up my laptop
[08:44] <AlexRM> HappyFool, no, I don't even have that package listed
[08:44] <mysyfy> by doing sudo chmod 755 /dev/hda1 output: changing permission
[08:45] <Kain-ubuntu> with a live cd of ubuntu
[08:45] <HappyFool> AlexRM: ah-ha
[08:45] <qman|A64> ok, before or after the block of config?
[08:45] <AlexRM> HappyFool, yet I have added extra resporities
[08:45] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, after
[08:45] <mysyfy> but doing la -la the permission isn't changed
[08:45] <Kain-ubuntu> this is my first linux experience ever
[08:45] <HappyFool> AlexRM: it's in the 'restricted' repository -- is that enabled?
[08:45] <mysyfy> but doing ls -la the permission isn't changed
[08:45] <blue-frog> CFF, ftp or ssh
[08:45] <Kain-ubuntu> Does somebody wanne help me?
[08:45] <AlexRM> HappyFool, whats the full name of it?
[08:45] <Storkme> anyone know some good file sharing programs that work on linux? i'm thinking of limewire, since that's written in java
[08:46] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, mine is not the same chip, but I have that line,....it has been a long time since I did this on mine, but I remember having to do it
[08:46] <qman|A64> ok its done
[08:46] <CFF> how about bittorrent?
[08:46] <khalif> gnomefreak: You still there?
[08:46] <CFF> I tried ftp
[08:46] <CFF> and I do not know how to use ssh
[08:46] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, ok do a sudo ifconfig wlan0 down
[08:46] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, ok do a sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[08:46] <Kain-ubuntu> Does anybody know where I can find a compiler on the live cd of ubuntu
[08:46] <blue-frog> CFF, if u don't have a ftp server running won't work of course
[08:46] <HappyFool> AlexRM: i'm not sure what you mean by full name. Do you mean this: 'deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy restricted'
[08:46] <AlexRM> HappyFool, yes - I shall try adding that now
[08:47] <mysyfy> how can i change my nfts partition permissions ? by doing $ sudo chmod 755 /media/hda1 output: pemission change....but doing ls -la the permission isn't changed
[08:47] <mysyfy> ??
[08:47] <HappyFool> AlexRM: it's called 'Restricted copyright' in Synaptic (under Settings -> repositories)
[08:47] <blue-frog> CFF, scp myfile user@server:/home/user   for example
[08:47] <CFF> right, right...
[08:47] <Kain-ubuntu> Is everybody ingoring me because I am noob or what ?
[08:47] <qman|A64> still no power light
[08:47] <AlexRM> HappyFool, almost all of them have restricted copyright underneath them
[08:47] <HappyFool> AlexRM: ubotu should have msg'ed you about a sample sources.lst
[08:47] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, hmm
[08:48] <blue-frog> mysyfy, check wiki for ntfs, u need to change your /etc/fstab
[08:48] <AlexRM> HappyFool, I got it - I have Horray don't i? not Breezy (5.4)
[08:48] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, you say it worked perfectly in knoppix?
[08:48] <HappyFool> Kain-ubuntu: looks like everyone's busy, sorry. try asking again in 10 minutes
[08:48] <qman|A64> the strangest thing is, this worked on the knoppix 3.9 livecd
[08:48] <qman|A64> yes
[08:48] <Kain-ubuntu> ok
[08:48] <HappyFool> AlexRM: 5.04 is hoary
[08:48] <AlexRM> Ahhh,
[08:48] <mysyfy> how can i change my nfts partition permissions ? by doing $ sudo chmod 755 /media/hda1 output: pemission change....but doing ls -la the permission isn't changed
[08:48] <HappyFool> AlexRM: ah, let me check for amd64 fglrx for hoary
[08:48] <mysyfy> ??
[08:48] <AlexRM> nonon
[08:48] <khalif> kain-ubuntu: nobody's ignoring you, it's just a little busy in here. I'm a noob too :)!
[08:49] <AlexRM> I have Breezy
[08:49] <HappyFool> AlexRM: ok, good
[08:49] <AlexRM> HappyFool, I have latest Ubuntu
[08:49] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, do a sudo ndiswrapper -m
[08:49] <mysyfy> i just want to acces my ntfs partition by a normal user
[08:49] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, and then reboot
[08:49] <blue-frog> Kain-ubuntu, a compiler?
[08:49] <Kain-ubuntu> Yes
[08:49] <Kain-ubuntu> I downloaded the source of a game
[08:49] <khalif> :)
[08:49] <HappyFool> AlexRM: so you've added the 'restricted' repository now?
[08:49] <Kain-ubuntu> And I am trying to get it run
[08:49] <qman|A64> 'modprobe config already contains alias directive'
[08:49] <blue-frog> mysyfy, check wiki for ntfs, u need to change your /etc/fstab
[08:49] <rambo3> myfsy edit you fstab then
[08:49] <AlexRM> HappyFool, all of them have restriected
[08:49] <Kain-ubuntu> I am running the live cd
[08:49] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, ok then reboot the box
[08:50] <blue-frog> mysyfy, u ask question, at least read the answers..
[08:50] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, I hate telling people that
[08:50] <qman|A64> ok...
[08:50] <ltibor65> Is Ubuntu 5.10 an good operating system?
[08:50] <rambo3> no
[08:50] <HappyFool> AlexRM: what do you mean by 'all of them' ? in synaptic ?
[08:50] <mysyfy> blue-frog: i've already changed too...changing the nfts partition with uid=login_user
[08:50] <The_Isle_of_Mark> ltibor65, yep
[08:50] <mysyfy> but nothing
[08:50] <AlexRM> HappyFool, Ahh, hang on I think i got it
[08:50] <Storkme_> how can i change the permissions of a read only file? it says i need root access to do it
[08:51] <Kain-ubuntu> I'll check this place in ten minutes
[08:51] <AlexRM> HappyFool, huh? E: Type ''deb' is not known on line 36 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:51] <AlexRM> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[08:51] <The_Isle_of_Mark> Kain-ubuntu, what is your question?
[08:51] <rambo3> is there a way to reinstall alsa
[08:51] <AlexRM> Oh I got it
[08:51] <HappyFool> AlexRM: can you put your sources.list on paste.ubuntulinux.nl ?
[08:51] <HappyFool> ok, nm
[08:51] <Doonz> whats the command in terminal to see what ip is assigned to what eth card
[08:51] <AlexRM> I think I can fix it
[08:51] <emil> !mp3
[08:51] <ubotu> well, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats.
[08:51] <mysyfy> Storkme_: you can do it by sudo command
[08:51] <AlexRM> where ecatly is the source.list?
[08:51] <qman|A64> ok, rebooted, still no power light :(
[08:51] <blue-frog> mysyfy, u need user,umask=000 instead of defaults
[08:52] <khalif> Anybody: Can I use KDE with Ubuntu instead of Gnome?
[08:52] <HappyFool> AlexRM: /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:52] <qman|A64> I didn't happen to see any initialization of PCMCIA during boot though
[08:52] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, lsmod
[08:52] <rambo3> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:52] <The_Isle_of_Mark> ndiswrapper loaded?
[08:52] <The_Isle_of_Mark> khalif, yes
[08:52] <mysyfy> blue-frog: i'll post the ntfs line of my fstab file
[08:52] <blue-frog> mysyfy, go
[08:53] <ltibor65> The_Isle_of_Mark, you are saying me, Ubuntu is an good operatin system. But why can I not listen to mp3 and watch mpeg2 and DVD-s with it?
[08:53] <khalif> The _Isle_of_Mark: Thanks! :)
[08:53] <rambo3> becouse you didnt read help files on ubuntu page
[08:53] <qman|A64> no, ndiswrapper isnt loaded
[08:53] <The_Isle_of_Mark> ltibor65, those formats are not free formats. You will need to install the support for them
[08:53] <khalif> lol!
[08:53] <soundray> ltibor65, well if for you, support for encumbered formats is the hallmark of a good OS, then clearly Ubuntu is not for you.
[08:53] <AlexRM> !pastebin
[08:53] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[08:54] <AlexRM> HappyFool, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/447527
[08:54] <The_Isle_of_Mark> soundray, come on man, lots of people associate a computer with multimedia
[08:54] <mysyfy> blue-frog: /dev/hda5       /media/hda5     ntfs    auto,user,uid=mysyfy,umask=000s        0       0
[08:54] <opnsrc> what's the name of the file that has all your kernel boot options for Grub?
[08:54] <AlexRM> it's still not there
[08:54] <opnsrc> when it first boots and you click escape
[08:54] <freakazoid333> how do i change the refresh rate on breezy  via KDE 3.4
[08:54] <The_Isle_of_Mark> soundray be nice to the normals :)
[08:54] <derek[] > How do you upgrade packages?
[08:54] <blue-frog> ltibor65, have u ever tried to watch dvd on a fersh xp install, certainly not i guess..
[08:54] <varsendagger> any ideas what package jpeglib.h wouldbe in
[08:54] <soundray> The_Isle_of_Mark, and rightly so. But they should be aware of what the industry is trying to force down our throats in the way of restrictions.
[08:55] <mysyfy> blue-frog: it's that ?
[08:55] <The_Isle_of_Mark> what is the ubotu bang for the restricted formats?
[08:55] <rambo3> auto,ro,users,gid=users,umask=0002,nls=utf8 0 0 is my
[08:55] <Agrajag> !mp3
[08:55] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats.
[08:55] <opnsrc> the one that has all the kernels you can choose from
[08:55] <Agrajag> among others
[08:55] <The_Isle_of_Mark> !restrictedformats
[08:55] <ubotu> [restrictedformats]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[08:55] <qman|A64> Mark: ndiswrapper was not loaded, I tried modprobe ndiswrapper, but still no power light, though now it shows up in lsmod
[08:55] <The_Isle_of_Mark> aha
[08:55] <soundray> The_Isle_of_Mark, and if after reading ubotu's restricted formats, all he can come up with is the above line, then I can't help but get cross.
[08:55] <blue-frog> mysyfy, user,umask=000 will be enough  then in a terminal write  sudo umount /media/hda5 then sudo mount -a
[08:56] <nickrud> varsendagger, probably libjpeg62-dev, but you can check on packages.ubuntu.com
[08:56] <HappyFool> AlexRM: was synaptic running while you edited sources.list?
[08:56] <varsendagger> nickrud, thanks
[08:56] <AlexRM> HappyFool, I think so
[08:56] <HappyFool> AlexRM: also, you have some repeats in sources.list
[08:56] <derek[] > How do you upgrade packages?
[08:56] <AlexRM> oh, what lines?
[08:56] <varsendagger> !checkinstall
[08:56] <ubotu> I heard checkinstall is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[08:56] <The_Isle_of_Mark> soundray, understood, I fell your pain, but I still try to be nice so people dont get a sour "linux" taste in their mouths
[08:56] <freakazoid333> the 60hz is killing me how do i boost the monitor refresh rate via kde ??
[08:56] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, hmm
[08:57] <HappyFool> AlexRM: 4 and 36
[08:57] <freakazoid333> its a crt
[08:57] <varsendagger> hey is there a way to make an imiage of my hd ala norton ghost
[08:57] <soundray> The_Isle_of_Mark, right, patience is a virtue.
[08:57] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, I think I have reached my knowledge on this...let me do some research
[08:57] <mysyfy> blue-frog: tks u....it works....:)
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> varsendagger,  mondo/minda
[08:57] <qman|A64> ok, thanks
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> varsendagger,  mondo/mindi i mean
[08:57] <fadumpt> how hard is it to enable SMP in ubuntu?
[08:58] <The_Isle_of_Mark> soundray, working a help desk for a little while when I first started out gave me a lot of patience and the ability to communicate with the normals
[08:58] <HappyFool> AlexRM: an easy option is to replace your sources.list with this one: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (you can back your own up first)
[08:58] <HappyFool> AlexRM: shut synaptic down before editing sources.list
[08:58] <soundray> The_Isle_of_Mark, but I guess noone with an attitude like that will be happy with Linux for long, anyway. No matter how much help, support and love we offer.
[08:58] <PaNkePaSa> hi, does anyone know a graphical tool for installing .deb files?
[08:58] <varsendagger> Dr_Willis,
[08:59] <PaNkePaSa> I think that it would be great if synaptic could manage .deb files downloaded from anywhere
[08:59] <The_Isle_of_Mark> soundray, yeah, you could be right...but each one that tries our nice little os might be another that helps it get to the mainstream desktop...and then who knows, right?
[08:59] <Stork> how do you restart applications from the console?
[08:59] <AlexRM> HappyFool, I edited it (with Snyaptic down) and now I get a load of errors
[08:59] <soundray> The_Isle_of_Mark, sure.
[08:59] <HappyFool> AlexRM: for example/
[09:00] <The_Isle_of_Mark> soundray, but yeah, I understand you..believe me I do
[09:00] <AlexRM> HappyFool, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/447536
[09:00] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, you gonna be here for a while?
[09:00] <varsendagger> checkinstall is slick
[09:00] <HappyFool> AlexRM: hmm
[09:00] <soundray> The_Isle_of_Mark, perhaps even expecting a tiny bit of gratitude is too much. Instead they come back and doubt the value of the OS of your choice.
[09:00] <AlexRM> HappyFool, couldn't I copy your sources.list?
[09:00] <xzy2ob> where is the menu.lst file? i cant find it on my system
[09:00] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, also what version is your card? I have about 10 around here and I'll try one out
[09:00] <HappyFool> AlexRM: close down synaptic and run 'sudo apt-get update'
[09:01] <nickrud> xzy2ob, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:01] <Stork> how do you restart applications from the console?
[09:01] <AlexRM> HappyFool, doing
[09:01] <HappyFool> AlexRM: sure, though it's similar to the one on the paste-bin
[09:01] <xzy2ob> nickrud, that folder does not exist
[09:01] <nickrud> Stork, that question is, well, not too clear :)
[09:01] <qman|A64> Mine is version 2
[09:01] <AlexRM> HappyFool, All done
[09:01] <nickrud> xzy2ob, that is strange
[09:01] <AlexRM> HappyFool, yay no errors in Synaptic now
[09:01] <HappyFool> AlexRM: did apt-get report any errors?
[09:01] <qman|A64> I'm going to be around for a bit, but I have to leave, not sure exactly how soon
[09:02] <AlexRM> HappyFool, no
[09:02] <rambo3> "each one that tries our nice little os might be another that help" i thought that ubuntu= debian fork();
[09:02] <HappyFool> AlexRM: ok. *now* do you see xorg-driver-fglrx
[09:02] <navarone> I have useless entry in Open With dialog when I right click text files...what file do I edit to remove entry?
[09:02] <The_Isle_of_Mark> soundray, yeah it is like they are saying things about your home town, or favorite team or something...it gets personal
[09:02] <AlexRM> HappyFool, no! grrrrrr
[09:02] <AlexRM> HappyFool, all I have is fglrx-control in Msc->Graphics (Restricted)
[09:02] <Stork> how do you restart applications from the console?
[09:02] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, cool I'll check my card stash for on
[09:02] <The_Isle_of_Mark> er for one
[09:02] <soundray> The_Isle_of_Mark, even that I could tolerate, if it was based on a sensible assessment.
[09:02] <qman|A64> ok
[09:02] <HappyFool> AlexRM: what does      apt-cache search 'xorg-*'   say ?
[09:02] <xzy2ob> nickrud: well, i found out of it. i have a dedicated boot partion, i found it there :)
[09:02] <nickrud> xzy2ob, ah
[09:02] <Dr_Willis> Stork,  what app
[09:03] <Stork> mysql/apache
[09:03] <HappyFool> AlexRM: hang on
[09:03] <HappyFool> AlexRM: that's a silly command
[09:03] <AlexRM> HappyFool, it's in there!
[09:03] <Stork> there's a command line option but i forgot it
[09:03] <AlexRM> I see it in there,
[09:03] <HappyFool> AlexRM: ah, ok
[09:03] <Stork> i'm a linux nooby :(
[09:03] <HappyFool> AlexRM: let's just use the command line
[09:03] <AlexRM> ok,
[09:03] <HappyFool> AlexRM: 'sudo aptitude install xorg-driver-fglrx'
[09:04] <soundray> The_Isle_of_Mark, but I guess meta-topic is off-topic too, so let's leave it there. In any case, I admire your patience.
[09:04] <xzy2ob> i have just compiled a new kernel. 2.4.32, how can do i make a initrd.img ?
[09:04] <nickrud> Stork, sudo /etc/init.d/(apache or apache2 or mysql) start
[09:04] <AlexRM> HappyFool, done
[09:04] <Stork> awesome, thanks
[09:04] <logical_mark> Hey how do I change the listining port on VNC server. And am I right in seeing the default port is 0?
[09:04] <HappyFool> AlexRM: did it download anything?
[09:04] <The_Isle_of_Mark> soundray thanks, and just by being here you show that you will help...good on ya
[09:04] <Dr_Willis> logical_mark,  thats not correct
[09:04] <AlexRM> HappyFool, no, when I found it in Synaptic a min ago - It was already installed
[09:04] <Mero> .
[09:04] <HappyFool> AlexRM: ah, i see
[09:04] <mrkoje> logical_mark; The degault port should not be 0
[09:05] <Mero> hello
[09:05] <blue-frog> Stork, /etc/init.d/apacha2 start
[09:05] <HappyFool> AlexRM: ok, does 'grep fglrx /etc/modules' output anything ?
[09:05] <YokoZar> Where does rhythmbox keep its playlist files?  I'm trying to find my playlist from a hoary install on another disk
[09:05] <AlexRM> HappyFool, grep fglrx /etc/module
[09:05] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, I just happen to have that same card
[09:05] <AlexRM> woops
[09:05] <blue-frog> Stork, or whatever apps in /etc/init.d/apps-name start
[09:05] <Dr_Willis> logical_mark,  ports start at 6800+ i think
[09:05] <AlexRM> HappyFool, grep: /etc/module: No such file or directory
[09:06] <nickrud> YokoZar, it's in ~/.gnome2/rhythmbox
[09:06] <HappyFool> AlexRM: /etc/modules   -- note the trailing s
[09:06] <YokoZar> nickrud: thank you
[09:06] <AlexRM> Ah yes
[09:06] <navarone> Any idea how to delete Open With menu to delete entry?
[09:06] <logical_mark> Dr_Willis: When I go to System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop -> It says "Users can view your desktop using this command: vncviewer localhost.localdomain:0
[09:06] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, I'll see if I can get it to work on my wlan
[09:06] <qman|A64> Mark: I made a post on the ubuntu forums about it earlier, and someone replied saying the chipset is supposed to be natively supported, but it wouldnt work
[09:06] <AlexRM> HappyFool, it outputs fglrx
[09:06] <navarone> edit not delete Open with sry
[09:06] <Mabus06> Whoa guys, I have some SEVERE errors here. Can anyone help me please?
[09:06] <Mabus06> Details: Error reading file 'file:///usr/share/applications/smeg.desktop': File not found
[09:06] <qman|A64> even before I tried ndiswrapper
[09:06] <Mabus06> My whole applications menu has dead links like this!
[09:07] <HappyFool> AlexRM: ok, how about 'lsmod|grep fglrx' ?
[09:07] <nickrud> navarone, you can edit that by right clicking an appropriate file (say mp3), selecting properties, and using the open with tab.
[09:07] <AlexRM> HappyFool, fglrx                 277304  0
[09:07] <HappyFool> AlexRM: ok, that means that the fglrx kernel module is loaded
[09:07] <Edgardoweb> hi
[09:07] <Edgardoweb>  #xpolinux
[09:07] <AlexRM> HappyFool, good ... but there's still more isn't there? like editing xorg?
[09:07] <logical_mark> Dr_Willis: How can I set a custom port? Or do I need to set a range of ports?
[09:07] <HappyFool> AlexRM: the fglrx entry in /etc/modules causes the module to be loaded at boot.
[09:07] <Tuntis> Damnit
[09:07] <Edgardoweb> entren hay
[09:08] <HappyFool> AlexRM: yip, let's do that next
[09:08] <AlexRM> HappyFool, cool ok
[09:08] <navarone> nickrud> I added "jive" to text open with menu when Iw as trying to figure out the text filters...now I would like to remove it from the available choices
[09:08] <Tuntis> HappyFool, I think the /dev/sda2 is just defined wrong now
[09:08] <HappyFool> AlexRM: can you put /etc/X11/xorg.conf on the pastebin now?
[09:08] <AlexRM> HappyFool, Dill do
[09:08] <Tuntis> And, the USB drive showed up just as "/" in the live cd
[09:09] <HappyFool> Tuntis: were you using chroot ?
[09:09] <nickrud> navarone, If I read that right, you would right click a text file, and remove jive from the properties dialog
[09:09] <Edgardoweb>  unanse #xpolinux
[09:09] <navarone> nickrud...yes
[09:09] <derek[] > Please can someone tell me how to install additional TTF fonts??
[09:09] <AlexRM> HappyFool, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/447549
[09:09] <Tuntis> erm, what's that?
[09:10] <Tuntis> I did sudo -s in the console prompt I used
[09:10] <nickrud> navarone, so, right click a text file, select properties a the bottom. You'll see a tab called Open with on the properties window; select that, and remove jive.
[09:10] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, I havent had much luck with native on linksys cards...but I have to leave to get this card working email to send results in case you are not here?
[09:10] <navarone> nickrud...thanks...figured it out...lol
[09:10] <Mabus06> All of my programs won't launch! Can someone please help me?
[09:10] <HappyFool> AlexRM: ok, line 66 needs to be changed
[09:10] <nickrud> navarone, :)
[09:10] <navarone> nickrud> I was looking for the complicated solution...:)
[09:10] <derek[] > no one's listening me?
[09:10] <soundray> Mabus06, oh no! How?
[09:10] <HappyFool> AlexRM: changed "ati" to "fglrx"
[09:10] <blue-frog> Mabus06, what have u changed?
[09:10] <derek[] > :(
[09:10] <mrkoje> Mabus06: What do you mean they wont launch... what programs
[09:10] <nickrud> Mabus06, all :)
[09:10] <gib8> hallo
[09:10] <Mabus06> I don't know what I changed.
[09:10] <qman|A64> ok, you can email me here: cs dot cracker at gmail dot com
[09:10] <mbn18> hello ! someone sent me a wmv movie i cant see becouse i missing decoder. where can i get decoders for ubuntu ?
[09:11] <nickrud> derek[] , get the ttf file, and put it in ~/.fonts/ , that's it :)
[09:11] <Mabus06> But the entire applications menu has dead links (except for graphics subsection for some reason)
[09:11] <Red-Sox> snorks: ?
[09:11] <Red-Sox> !ops
[09:11] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[09:11] <AlexRM> ok, hang on HappyFool
[09:11] <blue-frog> Mabus06, then how do u expect us to help?
[09:11] <derek[] > nickrud, ok
[09:11] <Tuntis> mbn18, isn't guliverkli ported for Linux too...?
[09:11] <The_Isle_of_Mark> qman|A64, ok...will do..give me a bit of time
[09:11] <mbn18> the default player is Totem
[09:11] <zorba64> derek[] :then run fc-cache -v
[09:11] <Mabus06> blue-frog, because you guys are smart?
[09:11] <nickrud> derek[] , things scrooolll fast here sometimes
[09:11] <qman|A64> ok, I have to leave soon too anyway, thanks for all your help
[09:11] <brosio> a repository with windows codec ?
[09:11] <Mabus06> I don't think I changed anything important recently.
[09:11] <blue-frog> Mabus06, smart doen'st mean wizard..
[09:12] <derek[] > nickrud, i understand
[09:12] <mbn18> Tuntis < what is guliverkli ? a player ?
[09:12] <The_Isle_of_Mark> np...I'll email you on it
[09:12] <derek[] > zorba64, what'sthat for?
[09:12] <Tuntis> sourceforge.net
[09:12] <Mabus06> Well whatever you are, can you try to help? Why do I get these errors?
[09:12] <Mabus06> Details: Error reading file 'file:///usr/share/applications/smeg.desktop': File not found
[09:12] <nalioth> Red-Sox: may i help you?
[09:12] <AlexRM> HappyFool, done
[09:12] <darkcrash> hey, i need some help with my sounds, i can get local sounds to work, but i can't get sounds form the net or from xmms to work
[09:12] <nickrud> brosio, you can download the codecs from a link on wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:12] <derek[] > zorba64, and why the -v?
[09:12] <HappyFool> AlexRM: ok, time to restart X
[09:12] <zorba64> derek[] : so the system picks up the new fonts u added -v is for verbose
[09:12] <AlexRM> how do I restart X without restating PC?
[09:12] <Tuntis> HappyFool, what is chroot?
[09:12] <derek[] > zorba64, ok. run fc-cache -v, you mean do "fc-cache -v" at the command line?
[09:13] <HappyFool> AlexRM: hang on
[09:13] <zorba64> derek[] : yup
[09:13] <nalioth> AlexRM: ctrl-alt-bksp
[09:13] <HappyFool> AlexRM: you still have your backup xorg.conf from earlier ?
[09:13] <navarone> alex> ctrl-alt-backspace
[09:13] <Red-Sox> nalioth: no, i just wanted to see who the ops wer, but thank you
[09:13] <AlexRM> happy.....let me check
[09:13] <Mabus06> Can anybody try to help me please, this is a very severe problem...
[09:13] <nickrud> derek[] , zorba is right, sometimes apps are broken and won't see new fonts until you've run the fonts preferences or run the fc-cache
[09:13] <Mabus06> Details: Error reading file 'file:///usr/share/applications/smeg.desktop': File not found
[09:13] <derek[] > ok
[09:13] <HappyFool> AlexRM: let's just make sure you know how to get back here if X doesn't work
[09:13] <Tuntis> Mabus06, I'm not a "pro" but sounds pretty much like "reinstall it"
[09:13] <nickrud> Mabus06, is there anything in /usr/share/applications ?
[09:13] <nalioth> Red-Sox: please do that in the future in a "Private Message" session with ubotu
[09:13] <Mabus06> reinstall what tuntis?
[09:13] <navarone> Mabus> have you removed smeg?
[09:13] <Red-Sox> nalioth: how do you do that?
[09:14] <AlexRM> sudo nano /etc/X111/xorg.conf..and change the line to ATI
[09:14] <sorush20> guys my cups system isn't working very well could someone help I keep getting the message the connection was restricted and the cups server could not load any help please?
[09:14] <Mabus06> I don't know, nickrud I can't run nautilus to check
[09:14] <nalioth> Red-Sox: /msg ubotu hello is a good way to start
[09:14] <AlexRM> thats how I get it back if it goes wrong, yes?
[09:14] <HappyFool> Tuntis: chroot is sometimes used when performing rescue-type operations
[09:14] <Tuntis> the OS
[09:14] <Tuntis> Well, I didn't use it.
[09:14] <AlexRM> x11 even
[09:14] <nickrud> Mabus06, use a terminal, you can type ls /usr/share/applications
[09:14] <HappyFool> AlexRM: /etc/X11/xorg.conf, yes
[09:14] <Red-Sox> nalioth: okay,thank you very much
[09:14] <AlexRM> ok....hold on
[09:14] <Mabus06> terminal won't open either nickrud
[09:14] <gib8> i have a problem with my usb, its based on nivdia, does i have to install some special drivers for this? becouse i found some information about nvidia-grafic-devices but is there some specail for usb?
[09:14] <HappyFool> AlexRM: to start X from the terminal, login and run 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start'
[09:14] <HappyFool> um
[09:14] <HappyFool> oh well
[09:14] <nickrud> Mabus06, and if all else fails, alt-ctl-f1 and log in to the 'real' ubuntu :)
[09:15] <navarone> Mabus> methinks you have been doing some serious tinkering...:)
[09:15] <Tuntis> hm...
[09:15] <Tuntis> I'm just gonna go try and mess with grub settings
[09:15] <Mabus06> nothing, navarone
[09:15] <HappyFool> Tuntis: i don't know how /dev/sda2 ended up on / while you were using the live cd
[09:15] <HappyFool> hmm, strike 2
[09:15] <khalif> I need some help again guys :(!
[09:15] <spencerk> can someone help me understand this error message i get trying to get jackd running?   "/usr/local/lib/jack/jack_alsa.so: undefined symbol: snd_pcm_hw_params_get_rate". i dont know what to try
[09:15] <Mabus06> nickrud, it says "Id 1 too fast" or something when I try to log into tty1
[09:16] <khalif> I have a IBM Thinkpad with a Pentium III with 190MB of RAM
[09:16] <spencerk> all of the other drivers i try give a similar output
[09:16] <nickrud> Mabus06, as navarone says, you've been busy, I think.
[09:16] <blue-frog> tuntis chroot is used to avoid a porgram (to make it simple) escape from a certain directory
[09:16] <Mabus06> nickrud, I'm a noob I haven't tinkered with anything major
[09:16] <khalif> I have installed Ubuntu on the laptop twice. Each time I erased the drive and installed from my CD-ROM
[09:17] <nickrud> Mabus06, I'm at a loss if you can't get to a terminal somewhere.
[09:17] <kbrooks> blue-frog, chroot() IS escapable
[09:17] <Mabus06> nickrud, it gives me ext3 errors
[09:17] <Mabus06> saying they cannot read the blocks
[09:17] <AlexRM> HappyFool, it didn't load X again!
[09:17] <HappyFool> AlexRM: ok
[09:17] <khalif> When the laptop boots it brings me to the username/pass screen, but then it hangs after I sign in. Anyone know what that might be?
[09:18] <HappyFool> AlexRM: let's take a look at the X logs now
[09:18] <AlexRM> HappyFool, ok, how?
[09:18] <derek[] > is there a ttf viewer for linux where I could preview them?
[09:18] <nickrud> Mabus06, reboot in recovery mode: if it works, type     touch /forcefsck    and reboot again
[09:18] <Mabus06> nickrud, navarone, I haven't done any tinkering. Last thing I did was visit a website that strangely closed the window on me.
[09:18] <soundray> khalif, can you switch to a text console?
[09:18] <HappyFool> AlexRM: do you have a file /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old ?
[09:18] <Mabus06> It was a "spammy" website too.
[09:18] <HappyFool> AlexRM: if so, please put it on the pastebin
[09:18] <zorba64> khalif: you may be under memoried for graphical
[09:18] <Burk> hi
[09:18] <MickMcMack> HI!
[09:18] <khalif> I think so: ctrl-alt-backspace right?
[09:19] <AlexRM> HappyFool, yes ... hold on
[09:19] <soundray> khalif, no, Ctrl-Alt-F1
[09:19] <AlexRM> !pastebin
[09:19] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[09:19] <AlexRM> HappyFool, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/447562
[09:19] <khalif> The website said that all i needed was 128MB of RAM
[09:19] <wshin> hello
[09:19] <Comrade_Vladimir> anyone know how to make a image bigger and not make it pixelated on the gimp?
[09:20] <wshin> i had a questions about ubuntu live CD
[09:20] <Burk> guys, I'm using 5.10, is there a repository where I can find Firefox 1.5? or it's too early?
[09:20] <navarone> derek> try character map in  Applications/acces
[09:20] <kbrooks> Burk, /topic
[09:20] <wshin> can it boot w/ a smp configured kernel?
[09:20] <soundray> Comrade_Vladimir, you should select an interpolation mode.
[09:20] <xzy2ob> what package should i install with apt-get to get mkinitrd ?
[09:20] <derek[] > Is there a ttf viewer for linux where I could preview them?
[09:20] <Burk> wops, ok sorry
[09:20] <Comrade_Vladimir> soundray hold on and ill try
[09:20] <navarone> derek read above
[09:20] <khalif> ok I'm at the text console. What's next?
[09:21] <Widoff> Comrade_Vladimir, nice nick :)
[09:21] <sonics> automatix seems to have installed wine, but I cant find it ? :s
[09:21] <Storkme> god this is annoying
[09:21] <soundray> Comrade_Vladimir, cubic is best.
[09:21] <nickrud> Comrade_Vladimir, you can resize it; just pressing shift plus does not do any interpolation
[09:21] <HappyFool> AlexRM: hmm
[09:21] <Burk> another question: a part from smeg, is there any other gnome menu editor? I wish I could drag and drop icons... :(
[09:21] <blue-frog> khalif, are u logged in the console?
[09:21] <HappyFool> AlexRM: that has errors loading module "ATI", not fglr
[09:21] <wshin> anyone?
[09:21] <AlexRM> HappyFool, werid error?
[09:21] <Storkme> god this is annoying! i just copied a bunch of stuff off my backup cd, and it wont let me open it because it's read only. is there anyway to make all of it stop being read only?
[09:21] <Comrade_Vladimir> i like the gimp the best
[09:22] <HappyFool> fglrx
[09:22] <khalif> yes
[09:22] <HappyFool> AlexRM: i wonder if that's the wrong log
[09:22] <AlexRM> HappyFool, thats proberly because when I was changing it back after it crahsed .. it still said Error loading X. I had to edit it a few times
[09:22] <HappyFool> AlexRM: ah
[09:22] <Mabus06> navarone, nickrud, a reboot fixed it seemingly, thanks anyway
[09:22] <Mabus06> I was scared. :D
[09:22] <HappyFool> AlexRM: let's try to get a log from a failed fglrx start
[09:22] <AlexRM> Ok, let me try
[09:22] <blue-frog> khalif, type   free   to see your memory usage
[09:23] <soundray> Mabus06, so was I when I read your first posts...
[09:23] <HappyFool> AlexRM: re-enable fglrx, restart X and then copy /var/log/Xorg.0.log somewhere
[09:23] <nickrud> Storkme, anything you copy off a cd is read only; you can select them with nautilus and make them writable from the properites dialog
[09:23] <AlexRM> ok
[09:23] <Comrade_Vladimir> how do i interpolate
[09:23] <derek[] > navarone, wow.. i missed your messages.. please use my complete nick so it highlights and i don't miss messages
[09:23] <Mabus06> soundray, what could cause everything to fail? Even tty1? :S
[09:23] <nickrud> Comrade_Vladimir, right click, image->resize (I think) and as soundray said, cubic is best
[09:24] <soundray> Comrade_Vladimir, select Scale from the Image menu
[09:24] <Comrade_Vladimir> i was gonna say
[09:24] <navarone> Mabus remove .config/menu/applications.menu file and menu should return to normal at least acording to what i am reading
[09:24] <khalif> blue-frog: (total)=191836, (used)=188344, (free)=3492
[09:24] <soundray> Comrade_Vladimir, but you can only scale up to a certain extent without it getting pixely anyhow.
[09:25] <Comrade_Vladimir> it is pixelated though
[09:25] <Comrade_Vladimir> aww
[09:25] <Burk> darn, you cannot even drag icons from desktop into the menu...there must be a more decent menu editor..
[09:25] <soundray> Comrade_Vladimir, what are your original image dimensions?
[09:25] <Mabus06> navarone, luckily rebooting fixed it, but I couldn't have even done what you said as nautilus, the terminal, and tty1-6 were not working.
[09:25] <blue-frog> khalif, u have indeed a memory problem...
[09:25] <derek[] > navarone, thanks man!
[09:25] <AlexRM> HappyFool, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/447574
[09:25] <soundray> Mabus06, I have no idea, I just hope it doesn't happen to me.
[09:26] <blue-frog> khalif, reboot and see if it happens again...
[09:26] <derek[] > navarone, this one previews only the installed ones though
[09:26] <AlexRM> HappyFool, I hope thats a fglrx error
[09:26] <blue-frog> khalif, to reboot from console   sudo init 6
[09:26] <khalif> blue-frog: (swap)=514040
[09:26] <Widoff> Burk, right click on menu icon and Edit?
[09:26] <navarone> derek[] , yeah...install msstfontcore for more ms type ttf font
[09:26] <khalif> one sec k?
[09:26] <soundray> AlexRM, HappyFool, I had that error too
[09:26] <soundray> AlexRM, it's easy to fix.
[09:26] <Mabus06> soundray, well it was a spyware infested site I was at
[09:26] <greatjones> does anybody know how to play .mpeg files?
[09:26] <AlexRM> soundray, Exelent!
[09:26] <soundray> AlexRM, give me a sec.
[09:26] <The_Isle_of_Mark> Comrade_Vladimir, the nature of digital images will make an image pixelate as it is scaled higher. You can add pixel dpi, but each added pixel is not resampled to show the data in it. Your best best is the rule of thumb: You can scale smaller as much as you want, but you cant scale larger past a few percentage without pixelating
[09:27] <HappyFool> AlexRM: yeah. i'll defer to soundray as more experienced on this
[09:27] <blue-frog> khalif, your memory usage is too big, something is wrong,,, type   top   to see what's eating your memory
[09:27] <wshin> helloooooo
[09:27] <derek[] > navarone, install how?
[09:27] <Mabus06> soundray, but someone told me that ubuntu is near immune to spyware (heh, I guess not)
[09:27] <spencerk> can someone help me understand this error message i get trying to get jackd running?   "/usr/local/lib/jack/jack_alsa.so: undefined symbol: snd_pcm_hw_params_get_rate". i dont know what to try
[09:27] <AlexRM> HappyFool, thanks very much for your help :)
[09:27] <HappyFool> AlexRM: np
[09:27] <Burk> Widoff, that's not what I'd like to do.. my intention was to drag several icons into a menu folder..I do not really want to edit them one by one
[09:27] <soundray> AlexRM, can you give me that link to your xorg.conf again (the old one).
[09:27] <khalif> blue-frog: It all ready ended after I init 6; Will have to try to gget back to console...
[09:27] <Comrade_Vladimir> yea computers crashin aughhh!!!
[09:28] <HappyFool> wshin: i would guess the live-cd has a restricted set of kernels
[09:28] <Widoff> Burk, ok, then i'm sorry, i have no answer how to do that.
[09:28] <HappyFool> wshin: or, more likely, only 1
[09:28] <soundray> HappyFool, great job you did helping AlexRM.
[09:28] <wshin> HappyFool: so there is no smp support
[09:28] <AlexRM> soundray, no ... I lost it
[09:28] <navarone> derek[] , , use synaptic...System/Administr/Synaptic...use "Status" at bottom left and click "not installed" then scroll down to msstfontcore...i think is spelling...will install arial and new times and such
[09:28] <wshin> HappyFool: bummer
[09:28] <blue-frog> khalif, before login in graphically give it a few seconds.. just in case...
[09:28] <barbara> ee
[09:28] <khalif> k
[09:28] <wshin> HappyFool: what about the actual install... does it have a wider selection?
[09:28] <barbara> en espaol
[09:28] <nickrud> derek[] , msttcorefonts
[09:28] <soundray> AlexRM, don't worry, can you find an instance of 'int10' in  /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[09:29] <HappyFool> wshin: definitely
[09:29] <ltibor65> This dependecies make fool.
[09:29] <derek[] > nickrud, k
[09:29] <derek[] > navarone, ok
[09:29] <barbara> holaaaa
[09:29] <AlexRM> soundray, Instance? you mean if it's actually there?
[09:29] <nickrud> derek[] , although, you could simply copy them from your xp install, if you have one :)
[09:29] <The_Isle_of_Mark> hola barbara
[09:29] <soundray> AlexRM, just search for the string.
[09:29] <barbara> wats sap men
[09:29] <derek[] > :)
[09:29] <wshin> HappyFool: just wanted to see what all the ubuntu hype was about.. im actually on the live cd as we speak..
[09:30] <navarone> nickrud> will ubuntu performance degrade like windows if too many fonts are installed?
[09:30] <barbara> alguien habla espaol
[09:30] <nickrud> derek[] , that's where I got all my fonts from, I just put them in ~/.fonts/
[09:30] <AlexRM> soundray, yes it's there
[09:30] <Storkme_> nickrud, there is no option to make them not read-only
[09:30] <nickrud> navarone, I'm not sure
[09:30] <Storkme_> nickrud, would it help if i chmod'ed them all to 777?
[09:30] <soundray> AlexRM, add a comment mark (#) before the Load
[09:30] <wshin> HappyFool: how do you like ubuntu, how does it compare w/ other distros? what is so special about it...?
[09:30] <ltibor65> I want to install something, but it requires more and more other files.
[09:30] <nickrud> Storkme, you cannot make the ones on the cd writable; just the copies on the hd
[09:30] <mrkoje> barbara, hablo en espanol, pero no muy bueno
[09:30] <soundray> AlexRM, then save and restart X.
[09:30] <derek[] > nickrud, kool
[09:30] <barbara> hay que perfeccionarlo men
[09:31] <AlexRM> soundray, With fglrx or ati?
[09:31] <blue-frog> ltibor65, just accept..
[09:31] <derek[] > navarone, i don't find msttcorefonts
[09:31] <soundray> AlexRM, fglrx
[09:31] <HappyFool> wshin: my prior experience was with redhat/mandrake/fedora. I like the packaging system of ubuntu a lot. I also like the community and the overall goals of the ubuntu project
[09:31] <AlexRM> soundray, ok, let me try it
[09:31] <khalif> Question: Why does Ubuntu make the pinging sound at user/pass screen?
[09:31] <Storkme_> nickrud, i know, but i don't know how
[09:31] <nickrud> Storkme, are they under your home?
[09:32] <mrkoje> barbara, vaya #ubuntu-es puerto
[09:32] <Storkme_> nickrud, /home/alex/Music
[09:32] <navarone> Happyfool> I think packaging system on debian and ubuntu is superior to rpm...Mandrake always disappointed me although I liked the overall look
[09:32] <nickrud> Storkme, anyway the quickie method is chmod -R u+w /home/alex/Music
[09:32] <Storkme_> awesome, thanks
[09:32] <HappyFool> wshin: if you want to continue this discussion, can we do so on #ubuntu-offtopic ? (this channel is ideally for support)
[09:32] <Storkme_> does that also work on subdirectorys?
[09:32] <nickrud> Storkme, that'll change them all to writeable by you, no one else
[09:32] <Mabus06> What is the absolute easiest way to halve an image in size?
[09:33] <derek[] > navarone, i don't find msttcorefonts
[09:33] <wshin> HappyFool: ah.. didnt realize that.. will switch over
[09:33] <Storkme_> Mabus06, it'd probably be easier to write a program to do it
[09:33] <ltibor65> I wanted to install xmms for playing mp3. But it requires glib. Ok, I downloaded glib 2.9. Itried to install, but it requires gettext support in cc. Im am already crazy.
[09:33] <navarone> nickrud> what repo is the font package in?
[09:33] <nickrud> navarone, it's in multiverse
[09:33] <kbrooks> HappyFool, welll, what don't you like about those 3 other distros
[09:33] <kbrooks> oh oops
[09:33] <navarone> derek[] , you need to enable multiverse repo
[09:33] <derek[] > how?
[09:34] <nickrud> ltibor65, why in the world are you compiling anything when apt-get install xmms will do all the work?
[09:34] <AlexRM> soundray, it works:P:P - how do I actually setup my ati card now?
[09:34] <derek[] > I've never used this program (synaptic..) before
[09:34] <_jason> ubotu, tell derek about repos
[09:34] <soundray> AlexRM, give one to HappyFool, he really deserves it.
[09:34] <lonewolff> hmmm, does anyone have any experience of vmware on 5.10? everything worked fine on 5.04 but when i exit fullscreen on 5.10 x restarts :S
[09:34] <_jason> ubotu, tell derek[]   about repos
[09:34] <zorba64> !repos
[09:34] <ubotu> rumour has it, repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[09:34] <HappyFool> AlexRM: heh :). glad you got it working
[09:34] <soundray> AlexRM, fglrxconfig.
[09:34] <levander> The grub doc's are warning me against install grub with grub-install.  But, grub-install seems so much easier.  Anybody been in this predicament before?
[09:35] <AlexRM> thanks SO much you to
[09:35] <navarone> levander, i only have used grub-install fd0 to make boot disk...not to mbr
[09:35] <soundray> AlexRM, be careful with fglrxconfig. It shouldn't really be necessary to use it at all.
[09:36] <AlexRM> soundray, i've already started!
[09:36] <Comrade_Vladimir> wow i was crashin there for a second!
[09:36] <navarone> g'day lightbright
[09:36] <lightbright> hey hey :)
[09:36] <lightbright> navarone: hi
[09:36] <valles> hello everyone... Firtime on the channel.... and I have a long time without using irc...
[09:36] <levander> navarone: you've ever installed grub the other way, the 'native' way?
[09:36] <AlexRM> soundray, is there a way to exit half way through then?
[09:36] <lightbright> whats a good audio cd ripper for Ubuntu please?
[09:36] <soundray> AlexRM, no worries, just go on. Maybe make a backup of your current xorg.conf.
[09:36] <navarone> levander> I have grub only on floppy...had bad experience with mbr install before.
[09:36] <levander> lightbright: use grip
[09:36] <Comrade_Vladimir> my image is 152x420 how big can i go
[09:36] <AlexRM> ok,
[09:37] <khalif> blue-frog: Back at Console; I have top displayed. What am I looking for?
[09:37] <lightbright> levander: is grip a gui based app?
[09:37] <AlexRM> soundray, Whats Quadbuffer do?
[09:37] <blue-frog> khalif, the firsts entries
[09:37] <nickrud> you'll have to speak up valles it's busy today :)
[09:37] <soundray> AlexRM, just out of curiosity, what framerates do you get when you run 'glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark'?
[09:37] <ltibor65> nickrud, I triedwhat you said, but there are no xmms-package on Ubuntu.
[09:37] <valles> hello everyone... Firtime on the channel.... and I have a long time without using irc...
[09:38] <blue-frog> khalif, what is free giving u this time by the way?
[09:38] <lightbright> navarone: so you boot off your floppy?
[09:38] <Comrade_Vladimir> with gimpo that is
[09:38] <navarone> lightbright, yup
[09:38] <nickrud> ltibor65, try apt-cache policy xmms ; it should say that it's in universe
[09:38] <AlexRM> soundray, 2115 frames in 5.2 seconds = 409.189 FPS
[09:38] <AlexRM> 2760 frames in 5.2 seconds = 534.522 FPS
[09:38] <AlexRM> 2760 frames in 5.1 seconds = 536.720 FPS
[09:38] <_jason> Comrade_Vladimir, you can go as big as you want, just try values until you are satisfied with quality
[09:38] <levander> why is everyone using direct messages to communicate with ech other in this channel now?
[09:38] <nickrud> ltibor65, if you don't see that, then you have a problem in your /etc/sources.list
[09:39] <levander> i've never gotten a pm on irc before, have already gotten them from 3 people today
[09:39] <lightbright> levander: you tell me
[09:39] <khalif> 191836total, 188976used, 3352free
[09:39] <lightbright> levander: you messaged me
[09:39] <AlexRM> soundray, do I want to enable Quad Buffer Stereo?
[09:39] <nickrud> ltibor65, or, not a problem, just a few things that need to be added.
[09:39] <nExy> how do i find out which device is my sound card for UBUNTU
[09:39] <khalif> blue-frog: I don't know what else to look for...
[09:39] <levander> lightbright: really?  must be this new chatzilla client i'm using
[09:39] <soundray> AlexRM, umm, I don't think so...
[09:39] <levander> lightbright: are these messages showing up in pm that i'm sending now?
[09:40] <navarone> levander> try xchat...far better as an irc client
[09:40] <blue-frog> khalif, quit top and see what free gives u
[09:40] <sorush20> guys how do I make sure that the hotplug system in initiated every time I start the computer, at the moment the hotplug subsystem initiation is skiped in the boot up it not OK or Fail? any help?
[09:40] <lightbright> nExy: click on system/Preferenxes/Sound
[09:40] <soundray> AlexRM, I don't know what it is, though.
[09:40] <The_Isle_of_Mark> nExy, lspci | grep aud
[09:40] <nickrud> ltibor65, oops, xmms is in main on breezy, you should be able to get it no problem
[09:40] <lightbright> levander: yeah really, I just got 2 private messages from you
[09:40] <levander> lightbright: this test message is being pm'd to you?
[09:40] <lightbright> levander lightbright: are these messages showing up in pm that i'm sending now? <-- this is main channel!  the others were dirtect to me
[09:41] <soundray> AlexRM, what kind of ATI card do you have?
[09:41] <AlexRM> soundray, ATI 800XT
[09:41] <levander> lightbright: no idea what i'm doing different to go in main channel now
[09:41] <lightbright> nExy: see it?
[09:41] <AlexRM> WOW I didn't know Maya Ran on Ubuntu!
[09:41] <gnugeek> hello
[09:41] <gib8> why cant i go into an permission denied folder by using sudo?
[09:41] <AlexRM> :P:P must try
[09:41] <gnugeek> I wanted help
[09:41] <lightbright> levander: I use xchat, its great
[09:41] <khalif> blue-frog: same numbers as before. swap has 514040
[09:42] <soundray> AlexRM, I have a feeling that your framerates are suboptimal still. Do you actually have the kernel module loaded? lsmod | grep fglrx
[09:42] <gnugeek> whenever i log out gnome session the log-out dialog stopped fading the background
[09:42] <AlexRM> soundray, hang on ... still doing config
[09:42] <lightbright> levander: chatzilla is playing up it seems because some of your messages are being sent to me a private
[09:42] <nickrud> sorush20, doing sudo update-rc.d hotplug defaults should be sufficient
[09:42] <rubem> anyone have ever installed tulip???
[09:42] <AlexRM> soundray, do I want xfree86-dga?
[09:42] <jared> is there a drive for the lexmark x75?
[09:42] <mz2> gnome volume manager seems to be a bit broken atm in dapper
[09:42] <ltibor65> nickrud, do I have to download xmms from Internet? And what kind of package?
[09:42] <mz2> doesn't mount my usb hd automatically
[09:42] <khalif> only users are me, root, syslog and hal...
[09:42] <_jason> ubotu, tell jared about print
[09:42] <blue-frog> khalif, sudo killall gdm   and free afterwards to see results
[09:42] <gnugeek> whenever i log out gnome session the log-out dialog stopped fading the background
[09:42] <AlexRM> soundray, yes it's loaded (fglrx                 277304  7
[09:42] <AlexRM> )
[09:42] <Dr_Willis>  jared  check the cups.org site.. dont have high expectitions however.. most lexmarks are.. well.. junk. :P
[09:43] <gnugeek> help
[09:43] <lightbright> navarone: every day I do apt-get update, but it always takes so,long to download!  doesnt it store it each day?
[09:43] <sorush20> nickrud: I just typed that in but there is no use really..
[09:43] <soundray> AlexRM, say yes to dga
[09:43] <navarone> gnugeek> the background fades when you log out  normally
[09:43] <gnugeek> Gnome log-out stopped fading the backgrounf
[09:43] <AlexRM> export pseudo colour visuals?
[09:43] <jared> SEriouslly i hate lexmark....only printer i have...don't have money.....atm i  am 11...lol
[09:43] <sorush20> nickrud: I keep getting the message that hotplug already exsists ..
[09:43] <jared> do i have to download cups
[09:43] <lightbright> levander: ah I see
[09:43] <rubem> why when I double click a .bin file, it opens de GEDIT?
[09:43] <nickrud> ltibor65, ubuntu provides a packaged version of xmms ; sudo apt-get install will download it from the net and install it for you
[09:44] <_jason> rubem, is the file executable?
[09:44] <navarone> lightbright, no ideaq
[09:44] <AlexRM> soundray, export pseudo colour visuals?
[09:44] <gnugeek> I'm loging-out normally, System > Logout, still it isnt fading
[09:44] <lightbright> navarone: do you daily apt-get update?
[09:44] <jared> Do i have to download cups?
[09:44] <khalif> k191836 total, 173068 used, 3176 free, 514040swap...
[09:44] <gnugeek> it also shows logout dialog in windows list
[09:44] <sorush20> I keep getting the message that unable to retrive the printer list , connection to cups server failed how can i fix this
[09:44] <Dr_Willis> jared,  cups is the standard printing system on ubuntu.
[09:44] <rubem> _jason yes
[09:44] <Tuntis> GODDAMNIT!
[09:44] <nickrud> sorush20, then it should be starting on bootup; I have a link S40hotplug in /etc/rcS.d/
[09:44] <jared> ahhh......
[09:44] <navarone> lightbright> I believe that ubuntu normally checks for updates on boot
[09:44] <gnugeek> the dialog is called gnome-session
[09:44] <Tuntis> I found out the right drive path
[09:44] <soundray> AlexRM, give me a sec or two
[09:44] <Tuntis> BUT IT JUST TELLS ME, IT CAN'T DETECT IT
[09:44] <AlexRM> soundray, ok, sorry
[09:44] <blue-frog> gnugeek, happens sometimes    try  ctrl+alt+backspace
[09:44] <lightbright> how can I tell what version Gnome im running?
[09:45] <rubem> _jason .bin files are executables, aways :)
[09:45] <Tuntis> Somehow, it just says that it's ext2fs, so how the hell can't it use it?!
[09:45] <gnugeek> I tried that twice
[09:45] <_jason> rubem, check edit > prefs > exec text files options
[09:45] <Tuntis> goddamnit I hate dualbooting and usb drives
[09:45] <khalif> that helped a lilttle. Maybe we need to kill something else blue-frog
[09:45] <gnugeek> i think something wrong with timing
[09:45] <_jason> rubem, I meant the permissions on it, make sure
[09:45] <nickrud> ltibor65, run from the top menu bar, System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager ; all the packages that you can download are listed in that.
[09:45] <rubem> _jason! chmod +x :P
[09:46] <rubem> _jason i'm so dumb
[09:46] <_jason> rubem, :D don't worry I spent 20 minutes earlier on a typo
[09:46] <lightbright> does anyone know how can I tell what version Gnome im running?
[09:46] <cb_> How do I get my DWL-g510 d-link wireless interface working?
[09:46] <soundray> AlexRM, not to worry, I was just going through the thing myself.
[09:47] <LjL> lightbright: an about window? ;)
[09:47] <AlexRM> soundray, ahhh,
[09:47] <nickrud> lightbright, dpkg -l gnome-session will tell you
[09:47] <zorba64> lightbright: System > about gnome
[09:47] <soundray> AlexRM, I don't know what most of the settings mean, but you can accept the defaults for now
[09:47] <nickrud> I like zorba64's better :)
[09:47] <soundray> AlexRM and play with different configurations later.
[09:48] <lightbright> nickrud: cool thanks :)
[09:49] <lightbright> zorba64: ok ty
[09:49] <ltibor65> nickrud, there are here not xmms in the synaptic package list!!! What shall I do?
[09:49] <AlexRM> soundray, ok all done
[09:49] <lightbright> is 2.12.1 gnome the latest?
[09:49] <derek[] > navarone, i got universe repos.. but multiverse doesn't show
[09:49] <nickrud> ltibor65, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[09:50] <ltibor65> nickrud, Ununtu 5.10
[09:50] <_jason> derek[] , you need to manually add it in, pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:50] <khalif> blue-frog: Still there?
[09:50] <ltibor65> Ubuntu 5.10
[09:51] <derek[] > _jason, ?
[09:51] <_jason> !pastebin
[09:51] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[09:51] <jatos> hi
[09:51] <nickrud> shoot, ltibor65, do an update (the reload button), and check again. If it still is not there, put /etc/apt/sources.list on paste.ubuntu.nl
[09:51] <navarone> derek[] , in synaptic choose Setting/repos/ and in reposository dialog click setting and check "show disabled sources" then check the Multiverse repo in the repo dialog
[09:51] <nickrud> *ubuntulinux.nl
[09:51] <derek[] > _jason, you want me to paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[09:52] <_jason> derek[] , yes
[09:52] <zorba64> lightbright: i think 2.12.2 is just out...try http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-announce-list/2005-November/msg00062.html
[09:52] <derek[] > navarone, that's what I'm saying, the multiverse repo didn't show in the repo dialog., only universe repo showed
[09:52] <navarone> derek[] ,  read what i am writing please
[09:52] <jatos> I have a slight prob with samba,  I have set it up as a domain server and set the login script variable under global to logon.cmd, which I have placed in the netlogon dir
[09:52] <jatos>  I have set it up as a domain server and set the login script variable under global to logon.cmd, which I have placed in the netlogon dir
[09:53] <jatos> but when I log on at on a win 98 laptop logon.cmd is not processed
[09:53] <jatos> please excuse the repeated text
[09:53] <B7su4> why does my browser close on me sometimes?
[09:53] <soundray> B7su4, is it Firefox?
[09:53] <B7su4> and how can i fix it
[09:53] <Dr_Willis> B7su4,  my guess.. its crashing
[09:53] <B7su4> yes
[09:53] <Seveas> B7su4, because you browse too much I guess ;)
[09:54] <soundray> B7su4, I had that. It was a plugin that crashed on trying to load swf data.
[09:54] <dukebody> please i need help with my system
[09:54] <dukebody> can you help me
[09:54] <navarone> derek[] , you have to check "show disabled..." before they will show multiverse in the repo dialog
[09:54] <B7su4> soundray, how do i fix it?
[09:54] <dukebody> i am a newbie
[09:54] <dukebody> spaniard
[09:54] <zorba64> dukebody: just come out with the prob
[09:54] <soundray> B7su4, surf to about:plugins and see if there are any suspects.
[09:54] <_jason> navarone, I don't think the default sources.list includes multiverse, I've seen it a couple of times today (I assume the way it works is it shows the commented lines)
[09:55] <derek[] > navarone, I did that . (checked "show disabled sources")
[09:55] <dukebody> i can't install .tar.gz packets
[09:55] <soundray> B7su4, do you have a particular page that crashes your browser?
[09:55] <dukebody> i don't know how
[09:55] <Red-Sox> snorks: hi
[09:55] <dukebody> i get multiple error
[09:55] <B7su4> soundray,  myspace
[09:55] <derek[] > navarone, then some new ones (universe) showed up which were unchecked. I checked them. but nothing related to "multiverse"
[09:55] <dukebody> can somebody helpme?
[09:55] <khalif> I have 191836 total mem, but my swap is 514040. Is the swap too big?
[09:55] <derek[] > _jason, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5347
[09:55] <nickrud> dukebody, what tar.gz are you trying to install?
[09:55] <dukebody> can somebody help me installing an extracted .tar.gz program
[09:55] <_jason> dukebody, why are you installing "tar.gz packets"
[09:56] <zorba64> dukebody: they are usually source code you might have to compile them
[09:56] <AlexRM> Why when my ADMIN password is DIFFERENT to my normal user account....when ever I use SUDO I have to enter in my user password and not admin password?
[09:56] <navarone> derek[] , I got multiverse enabled when I installed java...it told me it had to enable multiverse and did so automatically
[09:56] <soundray> B7su4, loads okay here.
[09:56] <dukebody> because want to learn
[09:56] <soundray> AlexRM, yes.
[09:56] <_jason> derek[] , you are using hoary?
[09:56] <dukebody> compile..
[09:56] <dukebody> i hav read i have to use $make command
[09:56] <khalif> Was that to me AlexRM?
[09:57] <nickrud> dukebody, first do sudo apt-get install build-essential ; that will get you a compiler and make
[09:57] <khalif> Sorry wasn't reading....
[09:57] <_jason> derek[] , add "multiverse" to the end of lines 20,21,26,27
[09:57] <B7su4> soundray,  it when i want to put a comment...but it is also on different pages
[09:57] <AlexRM> khalif, no....anyone
[09:57] <khalif> :(
[09:57] <Thirsteh> Hey guys, what's the easiest way to make a script that connects to an FTP server, deletes a file and uploads a new one?
[09:57] <AlexRM> Just I would of thought you would Enter in the Admin Password..and not User
[09:57] <lightbright> using grip, how do you tell it to encoude using mp3?
[09:57] <B7su4> soundray,  aslo totem player never works
[09:57] <dukebody> and if i downloaded the packet from the web nickrud ?
[09:57] <_jason> ubotu, tell dukebody about enter
[09:57] <soundray> B7su4, anything in about:plugins?
[09:57] <AlexRM> that way ANY user can in theory...be admin
[09:57] <lightbright> levander: using grip, how do you tell it to encode using mp3?
[09:57] <derek[] > _jason, yes hoary
[09:57] <smo> AlexRM, no, only those listed in /etc/sudoers
[09:58] <AlexRM> Ahhhh,
[09:58] <nickrud> dukebody, first, you need the tools so you can compile the program source you downloaded :)
[09:58] <derek[] > _jason, "end of lines..." ???
[09:58] <lightbright> zorba64: well I have 2.12.1 gnome
[09:58] <danipaez> anyone know an amule server ?
[09:58] <B7su4> soundray, everything is enabled
[09:58] <blue-frog> khalif, sry had connection pb so anything u asked me in the last 5 minutes i haven't seen..
[09:58] <lightbright> zorba64: it must come with 5.10 Ubuntu
[09:58] <khalif> blue-frog: if total mem is 191836 and swap is 514040, isn't the swap too big?
[09:58] <_jason> derek[] , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5347 add "multiverse" to the end of lines 20,21,26 and 27 (right after the word "universe")
[09:59] <khalif> np
[09:59] <soundray> B7su4, in the header of each stanza, you can see the name of the plugin file, ending in .so
[09:59] <zorba64> lightbright: yup...2.12.2 may come down the pipe eventually
[09:59] <_jason> derek[] , I have to go, remember to reload your sources when you are done
[09:59] <derek[] > _jason, wait
[09:59] <Thirsteh> 666 users in the channel total, spooky :)
[09:59] <Fleed> how can I run a .class via the Terminal?
[09:59] <smo> AlexRM: If you ever start to use the more granular controls in sudoers, it starts to make a lot more sense.  you could give a user permission to run apt-get as root, and nothing else.  so they wouldn't need / shouldn't have the root password
[09:59] <blue-frog> khalif, it's swapping cause i doesn't have anything left to be used on the RAM memory, swapping is slower than RAM
[09:59] <_jason> derek[] , hurry I'm putting on my shoes :P
[09:59] <derek[] > _jason, i don't understand why I should do that.
[09:59] <dukebody> the program comes with two files: makefile.am, makefile.in. Should it help installing?
[09:59] <nickrud> Thirsteh, you gotta go now! :)
[09:59] <derek[] > _jason, i mean.. adding "multiverse" right after universe
[10:00] <_jason> derek[] , to enable multiverse, isn't that what you wanted?
[10:00] <soundray> B7su4, with slocate, you can find out where the plugin is loaded from.
[10:00] <skeeter_652> what is the definition of universe and multiverse
[10:00] <derek[] > _jason, but should I create new entries for multiverse like there are for universe?
[10:00] <nickrud> dukebody, you're getting into autoconf stuff, not simple learning material
[10:00] <_jason> ubotu, tell derek[]  about repos
[10:00] <khalif> Well, why would the Ubuntu site say that 128MB was cool for min req if it really isn't?
[10:00] <_jason> derek[] , read that page to understand, no you don't need new lines
[10:00] <derek[] > _jason, but shouldn't* I create new entries for multiverse like there are for universe?
[10:00] <Doomhammer> i'm running ubuntu breezy on a Pentium II 300Mhz boxen... how can I improve performance? I've already chosen a minimal theme, no wallpaper ...
[10:00] <Fleed> Question : how can I run a .class via the Terminal?
[10:00] <derek[] > _jason, ok, a space after universe?
[10:01] <_jason> derek[] , yes
[10:01] <derek[] > k
[10:01] <soundray> B7su4, then you can disable them one by one, by moving them to a directory that firefox doesn't see, eg. /home/B7su4/plugins-backup/
[10:01] <derek[] > thx
[10:01] <_jason> derek[] , np
[10:01] <Doomhammer> Fleed: a .class file generated by the java compiler ?
[10:01] <tristan> hi
[10:01] <blue-frog> khalif, it is, it's just that u have something wrong on your install
[10:01] <nickrud> Doomhammer, look into installing xubuntu instead, gnome is simply a dog on that hardware.
[10:01] <soundray> B7su4, chances are you'll find the culprit that way.
[10:01] <Fleed> Doomhammer yep with eclipse
[10:01] <dukebody> nickrud, I was looking for an antispam program, as a proxy, so I looked in softonic.com and downloaded a .tar.gz and I want to know how to install it
[10:01] <Doomhammer> Fleed: run it like this: java something (leave off the .class extension)
[10:01] <khalif> What should I do? Try to install again?
[10:01] <Doomhammer> nickrud: i noticed :P ... i'll try it :)
[10:02] <blue-frog> khalif, and anyway mininum says it all... the more RAM the better
[10:02] <tristan> !fr
[10:02] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[10:02] <sobersabre> hi.
[10:02] <nickrud> Doomhammer, I finally upgraded from my 466, kicking and screaming ;)
[10:02] <blue-frog> khalif try windows xp with only 128 RAM...
[10:02] <khalif> of course, but I'm in college. RAM for this old laptop is expeensive.......
[10:03] <sobersabre> Is there a way to have skype conversation and amarok playing in the background at the same time with 1 sound card ?
[10:03] <soundray> B7su4, okay?
[10:03] <khalif> I was using Windows. It was slow, but at least it worked...
[10:03] <skeeter_652> I'm running Ubutu on my PIII 600 toshiba laptop, works awesome
[10:03] <nickrud> dukebody, which program? you may not need to compile it, it may be available in ubuntu already
[10:03] <sobersabre> khalif: what seems to be the problem ?
[10:03] <sobersabre> i've just joined..
[10:04] <tristan> dukebody : did you try to get your program via synaptic?
[10:04] <khalif> Guess I'll try to install Ubuntu one more time. Maybe third install is the charm////
[10:04] <blue-frog> khalif, either reinstall why not... see what is eating your ram or cpu first.
[10:04] <sobersabre> khalif: what works not ?
[10:04] <khalif> blue-frog: How can I figure that out?
[10:04] <B7su4> soundray, what do you mean the header?
[10:04] <dukebody> i downloaded dspam-3.6.2 from softonic. I don't know how to use the antismap program which comes with ubuntu, if it's true
[10:04] <nickrud> dukebody, compiling for learning is one thing: compiling for a working tool is another, and usually not necessary.
[10:04] <blue-frog> sobersabre, something eating it's memory (possibly cpu as well but memory for sure)
[10:04] <Doomhammer> nickrud: yeah, i'd upgrade, but problem is the thing's a dell... nonstandard PSU, mobo, case... :O
[10:04] <khalif> sobersabre: Ubuntu hangs after user/pass screen....
[10:05] <tristan> dukebody : it is an antispam for your mail client?
[10:05] <blue-frog> khalif, i told u    top  and look at the entries
[10:05] <soundray> B7su4, load the page about:plugins . Got that?
[10:05] <qt2> anyone here familiar with breezy's remote desktop utility?
[10:05] <sobersabre> khalif: what is the name of your machine ?
[10:05] <dukebody> tristan, exactly
[10:05] <Sebastian> Hi there! i just installed "scilab" with apt ... but the encoding in zterm doesent work right ... what can i do?
[10:05] <khalif> I have erased and installed twice. Thinkpad 600X
[10:05] <sobersabre> qt2: client or server ?
[10:05] <tristan> dukebody : what is your mail client?
[10:05] <B7su4> soundray, okay it is loded
[10:05] <B7su4> loaded*
[10:05] <qt2> sobersabre, i dont understand the question?
[10:06] <soundray> B7su4, now the page has a structure, like stanzas or sections.
[10:06] <khalif> blue-frog: what exactly am I looking for in top?
[10:06] <dukebody> tristan, evolution is my mail client actually, but i'm new in linux and i can change it without problem
[10:06] <soundray> B7su4, right?
[10:06] <tristan> dukebody : because Thunderbird has already an antispam
[10:06] <B7su4> soundray, yes
[10:06] <ltibor65> nickrud, do I have to write something in to sources.list for synaptic to find xmms on the web?
[10:06] <blue-frog> khalif, u can as well install xubuntu-desktop and log with xfce to see if there is a difference but before u know what's eating memory installing any other stuff would be like peeing in the sea..
[10:06] <soundray> B7su4, each section has a header that names the plugin file. It ends in .so
[10:06] <qt2> sobersabre, both i usppose... i'm wondering what it uses as a backend...
[10:06] <nickrud> ltibor65, if you'll paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file on the web, I'll take a look at it for you.
[10:06] <Yawgmoth7> I'm having some trouble compiling a kernel. When I config it and compile it it makes everything except the initrd. I've looked for it in / and in /boot
[10:06] <Yawgmoth7> Anyone have any advice maybe....
[10:07] <dukebody> tristan, i looked into evolution and it has some buttons for spam-no spam but i thing those are no very useful
[10:07] <tristan> dukebody : then you should use Thunderbird. You'll have to configure a bit the antispam so that it can learn what is spam and what is not
[10:07] <khalif> sobersabre: somehing is eating my memory and preventing ubuntu from loading past the user/pass screen.
[10:07] <derek[] > damn
[10:07] <B7su4> soundray, none of them end in .so
[10:07] <derek[] > I can't get out of VIM
[10:07] <jared> i got the driver i can't figure how to set it up
[10:07] <jared> does anyone have any ideas
[10:07] <nickrud> ltibor65, there's a lot of things that are available after altering the sources.list, but xmms should be available with no changes.
[10:07] <derek[] > while editing a read only file
[10:07] <sobersabre> qt2: there are several ways to have this: 1. xdm protocol. 2. vnc 3. microsoft rdp client.
[10:07] <ltibor65> When? now?
[10:07] <dukebody> tristan, do you recommend me Thunderbird over Evolution?
[10:07] <blue-frog> khalif, anything that is high in VIRT column
[10:07] <sobersabre> khalif: can you log into the machine from the console ?
[10:07] <soundray> B7su4, okay, do you still see what I mean, though?
[10:07] <brodel> Thunderbird is better than evolution unless you're like me and need a calendar.. :)
[10:07] <blue-frog> khalif something with 0 doesn't interest you..
[10:07] <tristan> dukebody : after you an choose if Thunderbird put the spam into a specific folder or directly delete it
[10:08] <B7su4> soundray, yes
[10:08] <khalif> yes to both?'s
[10:08] <derek[] > I can't get out of VIM
[10:08] <derek[] > while editing a read only file
[10:08] <sobersabre> anybody can point me out for the way to setup my sound system to have more than 1 audio application able to use the sound card at once ?
[10:08] <mwe> derek[] : :q or :q!
[10:08] <tristan> dukebody : Well, I prefer thunderird but I am sure that there are people on this channel that prefer evolution
[10:08] <khalif> Following PID's:
[10:08] <soundray> B7su4, to disable a plugin, you need to move it somewhere where firefox won't load it on startup.
[10:08] <derek[] > ok
[10:08] <derek[] > mwe
[10:08] <khalif> 7006
[10:08] <HappyFool> derek[] : :q!  (the only vi command you need to know, said the emacs user ;)
[10:08] <B7su4> okay
[10:08] <khalif> 1
[10:08] <Sebastian> sobersabre, try a soundsystem like esd
[10:09] <Yawgmoth7> I've also tried doing it with make-kpkg --initrd kernel-image and that still does not amke the initrd
[10:09] <khalif> 3023
[10:09] <soundray> B7su4, so you need to find the plugin file and move it to such a place.
[10:09] <blue-frog> derek[] , :q!
[10:09] <B7su4> soundray, why do i want to disable it?
[10:09] <zorba64> Yawgmoth7: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto might help
[10:09] <sobersabre> Sebastian: it has immense latency, ... so it SUX!
[10:09] <qt2> sobersabre, err, i'm talking about the remote desktop built into ubuntu...
[10:09] <khalif> 5938, 5953, 5970
[10:09] <ltibor65> nickrud, what is the url, where i must paste the list?
[10:09] <tristan> Guys, here it is a vote : do you prefer Evolution or Thunderbird as a mail client?
[10:09] <sobersabre> qt2: there are all of them.
[10:09] <osfameron> tristan: thunderbird
[10:09] <nickrud> ltibor65, paste.ubuntulinux.nl is a useful one
[10:09] <soundray> B7su4, because your firefox is crashing, and it's likely a plugin or an extension that's causing it.
[10:09] <khalif> Those are the PID's with high VIRT
[10:09] <sorush20> guys how do I set up the interfaces file so the lo is brought up every time and also I only have dhclient3 and dhclient and not dhcp as mentioned in the interfaces file, this means that wlan0 is not brought up every time automatically at boot could someone have a look and suggest a change? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5350
[10:09] <qt2> sobersabre, is there a way to force it to use a certain protocol?
[10:10] <blue-frog> khalif, what about %CPU?
[10:10] <osfameron> though the hoary startup script for thunderbird is broken
[10:10] <B7su4> soundray, okay
[10:10] <sobersabre> khalif: what are you trying to do ? read the file ~/.xsession-errors
[10:10] <tristan> dukebody : maybe you should go for Thunderbird
[10:10] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Where can I find just the Java 1.5 Virtual Machine for Linux
[10:10] <sobersabre> and look for hints.
[10:10] <Sebastian> sobersabre, did you try different like .. oss, arts, esd?
[10:10] <B7su4> soundray, thankyou for your help
[10:10] <blue-frog> khalif, those memory numbers are not high
[10:10] <Yawgmoth7> zorba64: Thanks
[10:10] <khalif> blue-frog: only this with highcpu% is id
[10:10] <soundray> B7su4, so I'm suggesting you disable all plugins, and see if you still get crashes.
[10:10] <derek[] > ok, HappyFool , blue-frog
[10:10] <Sebastian> Biscuitian_Warhe, load it from sun.com
[10:11] <mwe> or for debs
[10:11] <B7su4> soundray, okay thanks
[10:11] <soundray> B7su4, you could also disable them one by one, until it doesn't crash anymore.
[10:11] <sobersabre> Sebastian: the only thing that really worked was jack, but it dies from time to time...
[10:11] <derek[] > HappyFool, blue-frog , mwe : How do I edit a read-only file?
[10:11] <nickrud> dukebody, sorry, got distracted. The README file in dspam should have installation instructions
[10:11] <blue-frog> khalif, how high?
[10:11] <soundray> B7su4, matter of taste.
[10:11] <mwe> !javadebs
[10:11] <ubotu> it has been said that javadebs is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[10:11] <khalif> 94.0%
[10:11] <devint> What's the name of a program I can use to decord what I'm doing on my computer screen, like I can take in-game video footage or something?
[10:11] <HappyFool> derek[] : which file ?
[10:11] <lightbright> anyone here use GRIP?
[10:11] <blue-frog> derek[] , sudo vi       and :wq!   to force writing
[10:11] <soundray> B7su4, hope you get it fixed. I did, it was a plugin called swf-player that was at fault.
[10:11] <Dr_Willis> lightbright,  yes i have.
[10:11] <Storkme_> what file sharing programs work with ubuntu?
[10:11] <mwe> derek[] : just edit it, but if it's owned by someone else, root for example do sudo vim file
[10:11] <derek[] > HappyFool, /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:11] <Storkme_> what file sharing programs work with ubuntu? but not bittorrent
[10:11] <sobersabre> Sebastian: OSS does not allow multiple apps access for the card.
[10:12] <khalif> Everything else is 0.x blue-frog
[10:12] <dukebody> nickrud, yes, it got instructions, but i do what i read and it doesn't work
[10:12] <derek[] > blue-frog, I gotta be sudo?
[10:12] <sobersabre> OSS is only sound card driver manufacturer.
[10:12] <Dr_Willis> Storkme_,  theres a P2P wiki page on the ubuntu wikis ya may want to read.
[10:12] <nickrud> dukebody, it's not for the faint of heart :)
[10:12] <Storkme_> thanks Dr_AceL
[10:12] <Storkme_> thanks Dr_Willis *
[10:12] <HappyFool> derek[] : what blue-frog said. all (or most) files under /etc are owned by 'root'
[10:12] <mwe> derek[] : do :w! to force it to write it to disk after you edited it
[10:12] <valles> how do I set up PHP so that firefox does not download a PHP file?
[10:12] <derek[] > mwe, /etc/apt/sources.list requires sudo?
[10:12] <soundray> Storkme_ have a look at mldonkey perhaps.
[10:12] <nickrud> you just want spam filtering for yourself on evolution?
[10:12] <derek[] > HappyFool, ok
[10:12] <mwe> derek[] : yeah
[10:12] <sobersabre> khalif: do you see many errors in ~/.xsession-errors ?
[10:12] <derek[] > ok
[10:12] <Biscuitian_Warhe> How do I get ALSA to handle several streams at once?
[10:13] <sobersabre> khalif: is it possible your disk is full ?
[10:13] <navarone> storkem> I couldn't reach mldonkey downlaod page...was blank
[10:13] <sobersabre> i mean /tmp or /home ?
[10:13] <valles> how do I set up PHP so that firefox does not download a PHP file?
[10:13] <navarone> storkme*
[10:13] <dukebody> nickrud,  yes i do. And i want to learn how to install a packet that i have downloaded from the web
[10:13] <tristan> Storkme_ : bittorrent works really fine
[10:13] <khalif> blue-frog: I don't see an error section in top
[10:13] <devint> Can anybody tell me the name of a linux screen capture program?
[10:13] <B7su4> doeso anyone know how i can install the packages found in
[10:13] <B7su4> edububtu?
[10:13] <nickrud> dukebody, ok, that's two things, and dspam is *not* something you want to learn with, trust me :)
[10:14] <navarone> Is bittorrent mostly larger files (movies and album wraps)
[10:14] <PokerFacePenguin> devint: ksnapshot on kde
[10:14] <pawdro> hi, ive just installed mplayer from repos. i cant find the way have fonts in my language
[10:14] <tristan> dukebody : usually if I followed what you said you have to extract the tar.gz
[10:14] <ltibor65> nickrud, the source.list is there, I sent it.
[10:14] <mrkoje> devinit:  system >> take screenshot
[10:14] <Dr_Willis> devint,  theres that feature in the gnome menus/printscreen key i thought.. or gimp can do it.. or a dozen other ways
[10:14] <valles> B7: doesn't it have Synaptics
[10:14] <valles> ?
[10:14] <HappyFool> B7su4: have you visited http://edubuntu.org ?
[10:14] <zorba64> B7su4: sudo apt-get install edubuntu-desktop
[10:14] <qt2> sobersabre, oh?
[10:14] <blue-frog> khalif, sudo killall id    not sure if its not going to log you off though..
[10:14] <mwe> derek[] : if you need to do a lot with superuser priviledges, you can do sudo -i get a root prompt
[10:14] <khalif> k
[10:14] <dukebody> now nickrud , what program should i got to learn?
[10:14] <soundray> B7su4, apt-get install edubuntu-desktop
[10:14] <valles> how do I set up PHP so that firefox does not download a PHP file?
[10:14] <nickrud> dukebody, a sec,
[10:14] <derek[] > mwe, thanks
[10:15] <soundray> B7su4, zorba64, oops, too slow :)
[10:15] <dukebody> tristan, yes, i have extracted the tar.gz but i cannot use the  $make command properly
[10:15] <devint> Well, I mean like recording what you're doing on the screen, like screen "recording"
[10:15] <zorba64> soundray: no matter :)
[10:15] <mwe> derek[] : use with care, though. typos can be potentially fatal for your system
[10:15] <khalif> blue-frog: Result= id: no process killed
[10:15] <tristan> dukebody : but before downloading from internet you should see if the packet is available for Ubuntu via Synaptic
[10:15] <valles> how do I set up PHP so that firefox does not download a PHP file?
[10:15] <tristan> dukebody : did you use .configure before?
[10:16] <dukebody> tristan, i have already seen it
[10:16] <nickrud> ltibor65, everything that has a single # , remove the # . every line that has universe in it, add multiverse. Then, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get install xmms
[10:16] <dukebody> tristan, yes, i have used it vefore
[10:16] <tristan> dukebody : then I don't know. I am not very familiar with make install
[10:16] <mrkoje> valles: you need to have the php file on your web server...
[10:16] <sobersabre> qt2:  you can choose either - xdm or VNC
[10:16] <valles> how do I set up PHP so that firefox does not download the PHP file instead of reading it?
[10:16] <blue-frog> khalif, ps ax | grep id
[10:16] <dukebody> tristan, can i tell you the error i get?
[10:16] <tristan> dukebody : I usually use Synaptic or get a .deb or a .rpm file
[10:16] <sobersabre> VNC is better, because you use it only when needed. xdm is very unsecure.
[10:17] <tristan> dukebody : there was no .deb or .rpm on the website?
[10:17] <sobersabre> qt2: what exactly are you trying to do and in which environment ?
[10:17] <PokerFacePenguin> valles: thats an apache config prob u got there
[10:17] <dukebody> for example, i want to try quake 4 demo, is it aviable on synaptic?
[10:17] <khalif> Result= Unsupported option (BSD syntax)
[10:17] <PokerFacePenguin> valles: u probably installed an apache version over an apache2 version
[10:17] <Storkme_> how come none of my mp3's will play??
[10:17] <dukebody> tristan, give me a second to see that
[10:17] <B7su4> soundray, gave me this error E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:17] <B7su4> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[10:17] <qt2> sobersabre, i'm trying to use tightvnc as the default server.
[10:17] <mrkoje> Storkme_; because mp3 is a licenced format
[10:18] <valles> PokerFacePenguin How can I check?
[10:18] <qt2> sobersabre, i'm referring to System > Prefrences > Remote Desktop
[10:18] <sobersabre> qt2: and what seems to be a problem ?
[10:18] <soundray> B7su4, you should have listened to zorba64. My version was missing the sudo in front.
[10:18] <navarone> Storkme> do you get any sounds at all beside mp3 files? Like systems sounds?
[10:18] <valles> PokerFacePenguin: How can I check if I did that?
[10:18] <qt2> as of now, it defaults to rdp.
[10:18] <qt2> as the first choice.
[10:18] <blue-frog> khalif, if   ps ax | grep id   doesn't work u'd better try another install..
[10:18] <B7su4> soundray, i know...i put sudo in front of it
[10:18] <PokerFacePenguin> valles: u can apt-get --purge the packages that conflict and reinstall correct versions of what u need
[10:18] <qt2> even though the other computer is running a tightvnc server.
[10:19] <B7su4> soundray,  and it still gave me that erroe
[10:19] <sobersabre> qt2: i didn't know this can work as rdp server :)
[10:19] <khalif> alright...
[10:19] <khalif> *sigh*
[10:19] <soundray> B7su4, then you have synaptic or similar still running somewhere.
[10:19] <Storkme_> navarone, my music player gives me an error; "This file is not an audo stream"
[10:19] <qt2> sobersabre, lol.
[10:19] <B7su4> soundray, ?
[10:19] <soundray> B7su4, then you have synaptic or similar still running somewhere.
[10:19] <PokerFacePenguin> valles: or edit the config files (after you hunt them down)
[10:19] <nickrud> dukebody, for evolution, anyway: install spamassassin, and spamc. Then, in /etc/default/spamassassin , change ENABLED=1
[10:19] <mwe> tell Storkme_ about restricted
[10:19] <navarone> mrkoje, Storkme may not have correct codecs/plugins or he may have sound muted in mixer
[10:19] <mwe> !tell Storkme_ about restricted
[10:19] <tristan> Storkme_ : is it an mp3?
[10:19] <qt2> sobersabre, i'm using a the vncviewer client, and it's defaulting to rdp.
[10:19] <B7su4> soundray, how do i disable it ??
[10:19] <valles> PokerFacePenguin: ok that's th problem... Il do the purge and try reestalling
[10:19] <Red-Sox> snorks: hello
[10:19] <xzy2ob> how do i install kminitrd ?
[10:20] <navarone> Storkme...are you using rhythmbox?
[10:20] <dukebody> nickrud, thanks
[10:20] <soundray> B7su4, can you bring up the window?
[10:20] <xzy2ob> err, mkinitrd
[10:20] <PokerFacePenguin> valles: what u installing?
[10:20] <ltibor65> nickrud, how can I edit sources.list?
[10:20] <valles> PokerFacePenguin: do you suggest any HOWTO... I am a newbee at ubuntu
[10:20] <ltibor65> from terminal?
[10:20] <B7su4> soundray, no
[10:20] <nickrud> dukebody, a couple more steps, I have to look them up.
[10:20] <valles> mysql php4 apache2
[10:20] <sobersabre> qt2: i don't understand. vnc client works as follows, you run it as: vncclent host:desktop
[10:20] <PokerFacePenguin> valles: if it is lamp I had success with apache2-mpm-prefork and php4 + MySQL of course
[10:20] <Storkme_> navarone, yes i am
[10:21] <soundray> B7su4, give me sec pls
[10:21] <sobersabre> qt2: and where is the rdp thing  ?
[10:21] <zorba64> ltibor65: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:21] <B7su4> soundray, okay
[10:21] <ltibor65> Thanks, zorba64
[10:21] <zorba64> ltibor65: np
[10:21] <navarone> !tell Storkme_  about restricted
[10:21] <zorba64> !restricted
[10:21] <ubotu> I heard restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[10:22] <eedge> How cool are Old Palm devices? I got my ancient palm VX syncing with evolution... No idea how thats useful, but hey :)
[10:22] <Mabus06> how do you create your own theme for colors and such without modifying the existing ones?
[10:22] <PokerFacePenguin> valles: for the --purge command do a man apt-get
[10:22] <Mabus06> ie: so I can revert to the originals if I want to again
[10:22] <sanketmedhi> hello
[10:22] <navarone> Storkme go to wiki address that ubotu sent you
[10:22] <nickrud> ltibor65, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list; you can see what I changed on yours at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5352
[10:22] <derek[] > $ mv arialuni.ttf ~/.fonts/
[10:22] <derek[] > mv: cannot move `arialuni.ttf' to `/home/derek/.fonts/arialuni.ttf': No such file or directory
[10:22] <derek[] > How come I don't have that directory?
[10:23] <sanketmedhi> I am trying to send a bug report using Bug Buddy but it asks me for a path of 'sendmail' what am I supposed to use?
[10:23] <sanketmedhi> any idea?
[10:23] <chungaroo> i'm getting an error: "ERROR OPENING MIDI DEVICE"..can someone help me rectify it?
[10:23] <mwe> derek[] : dunno. make it, mkdri ~/.fonts
[10:23] <dukebody> no tristan , it have not .deb nor .rpm
[10:23] <PokerFacePenguin> valles: the easy way to purge that stuff is with the package manager in gnome and check remove all config files
[10:23] <mwe> derek[] : mkdir*
[10:23] <soundray> B7su4, can you enter 'sudo lsof | grep /var/lib/dpkg/lock' on a terminal command line pls (without the quotes)
[10:24] <Mabus06> how do you create your own theme for colors and such without modifying the existing ones?
[10:24] <ramza3> anybody know why my laptop wont hibernate down after an hour or so.  It is enabled
[10:24] <soundray> B7su4, and paste the output, but only if it's not more than one line.
[10:24] <valles> PokerFacePenguin: I could really use your help... its kinda difficult to see what I have to install...
[10:24] <chungaroo> i'm getting an error: "ERROR OPENING MIDI DEVICE"..can someone help me rectify it?
[10:24] <derek[] > mwe, k
[10:24] <valles> PokerFacePenguin: tell me what you have installed?
[10:24] <nickrud> dukebody, in evolution, edit->plugins, make sure SA junk filter is enabled, then, in your account settings, make sure that receiving options have junk filtering enabled for each account.
[10:25] <B7su4> soundray, nothing happened
[10:25] <Mabus06> how do you create your own theme for colors and such without modifying the existing ones?
[10:25] <PokerFacePenguin> valles: sounds like u dont have much experience with package manager yet.  correct?
[10:25] <Mabus06> so I can make the task bar green for instance?
[10:25] <valles> ok
[10:25] <Mabus06> come on this is not so hard, can anyone dedicate me a few seconds?
[10:25] <nickrud> ltibor65, you might want to comment out (add a # at the beginning of the line) the cdrom line at the top.
[10:25] <soundray> B7su4, okay, will synaptic run from System-Administration?
[10:25] <valles> PokerFacePenguin: I know my ABC
[10:25] <Red-Sox> snorks: are you awake yet?
[10:25] <chungaroo> i'm getting an error: "ERROR OPENING MIDI DEVICE"..can someone help me rectify it?
[10:26] <PokerFacePenguin> valles: :)  not being hard on ya...everyone goes through it
[10:26] <blue-frog> Mabus06, instead of whining right click a bit everywhere and choose properties then experince things on your own..
[10:26] <terrible> chungaroo, have you tried timidity?
[10:26] <B7su4>  yes
[10:26] <B7su4> i am in iy
[10:26] <mwe> derek[] : you're not working at the root prompt, are you?
[10:26] <chungaroo> terrible, nope, is it a package i should install?
[10:26] <B7su4> soundray, ^
[10:26] <Mabus06> blue-frog, please read the CoC
[10:26] <soundray> B7su4, best to install edubuntu-desktop from synaptic, then.
[10:26] <Lochost> hei
[10:27] <B7su4> how do i do that?
[10:27] <PokerFacePenguin> valles: what are you installing?
[10:27] <dukebody> nickrud, i don't see edit/plugins in evolution
[10:27] <valles> PokerFacePenguin: I'll be back
[10:27] <terrible> chungaroo, I think it's a package that translates midi to wav and plays it. nasty GUI, but it works :)
[10:27] <derek[] > mwe, no
[10:27] <B7su4> soundray, ^
[10:27] <Storkme_> ok, i got the stuff that i need to get from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats but it still doesn't play the mp3's
[10:27] <chungaroo> terrible, apt-getting it right now..hold up
[10:27] <terrible> chungaroo, ok
[10:27] <mwe> derek[] : good
[10:27] <nickrud> dukebody, edit on the main menubar for evolution
[10:27] <derek[] > mwe, why?
[10:28] <soundray> B7su4, can you install edubuntu-desktop from synaptic?
[10:28] <blue-frog> soundray, yes
[10:28] <chungaroo> terrible, i'm not trying to play midis, but rather use this guitar tab software
[10:28] <soundray> B7su4, good. Problem solved?
[10:28] <jared> okay i got the driver for it it will run the paper like its going to print...then it dosen't pring
[10:28] <mwe> derek[] : because you be messing with root's dir then
[10:28] <terrible> ah
[10:28] <jared> print
[10:28] <terrible> chungaroo, sorry :)
[10:28] <Red-Sox> is there a pager for windows?
[10:29] <Storkme_> ok, i got the stuff that i need to get from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats but it still doesn't play the mp3's. it says the resource is not a valid stream.!
[10:29] <derek[] > mwe, k
[10:29] <terrible> chungaroo, my bad
[10:29] <chungaroo> terrible, haha, not a problem, you have any idea?
[10:29] <mwe> derek[] : and directories you create would be owned by root and not accessible for yourself
[10:29] <terrible> chungaroo, what software is it exactly?
[10:29] <chungaroo> terrible, kguitar
[10:29] <B7su4> soundray, no..because how do i do it?
[10:29] <dukebody> nickrud, i have not a plugin entry in the edit menu of evolution
[10:29] <sobersabre> Storkme_: what are you trying 2 do ?
[10:29] <chungaroo> terrible, pretty sure it's in the ubuntu repository
[10:29] <soundray> B7su4, how do you do what?
[10:29] <Storkme_> play mp3's
[10:29] <sobersabre> with what ?
[10:29] <Storkme_> anything
[10:30] <Storkme_> the default player
[10:30] <sobersabre> have you tried amarok ?
[10:30] <terrible> chungaroo, I don't know if links are allowed in IRC
[10:30] <terrible> chungaroo, but here
[10:30] <terrible> chungaroo, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30963
[10:30] <sobersabre> Storkme_: what is 'the default player' ?
[10:30] <B7su4> soundray,  install it from synaptic
[10:30] <mwe> Storkme_: did you read that wiki page and do what it suggests?
[10:30] <nickrud> hah, dukebody you need evolution-plugins ; I must have installed that package, just didn't remember. Sorry.
[10:30] <terrible> chungaroo, it's a HOWTO for MIDI in Hoary (it should work on Breezy though)
[10:31] <sanketmedhi>  I am trying to send a bug report using Bug Buddy but it asks me for a path of 'sendmail' what am I supposed to use?
[10:31] <Storkme> ok, i got the stuff that i need to get from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats but it still doesn't play the mp3's. it says the resource is not a valid stream.! i'm using rythmbox
[10:31] <dukebody> nickrud, you're right i have not this packet installed
[10:31] <soundray> B7su4, click on search. Enter edubuntu in the dialog. Hit return. Click on the little square left of the line that says edubuntu-desktop... Click Apply.
[10:32] <nickrud> dukebody, you must not have ubuntu-desktop installed either; that's what pulls in evolution-plugins
[10:32] <sanketmedhi> Storkme, what is the problem? maybe i can solve it
[10:32] <zorba64> Storkme: can you give us the url and we can try to play it too
[10:32] <Storkme> it's songs on my computer
[10:32] <sobersabre> Storkme_:  you are trying to open "stream"
[10:32] <chungaroo> terrible, thanks a bunch, i'm trying it right now
[10:32] <Storkme> http://81.86.115.45:8888
[10:32] <kroiz> fakeroot to install ati driver fails (permissions) can I use sudo instead of fakeroot?
[10:32] <terrible> chungaroo, hope it helps, good luck
[10:32] <sobersabre> Storkme_: don't do this. try to add stuff to the library.
[10:32] <Storkme> i did
[10:32] <Storkme> it didn't work
[10:32] <sobersabre> besides rythmbox interface sux.
[10:32] <sobersabre> use amarok.
[10:32] <nickrud> dukebody, which is why I took it for granted :)
[10:33] <sobersabre> amarok.kde.org
[10:33] <dukebody> nickrud, ubuntu-desktop isn't installed, true
[10:33] <mwe> kroiz: you don't understand fakeroot. you can't install with fakeroot.
[10:33] <nickrud> dukebody, you're one o' those 'my machine, my way' guys eh ;)
[10:33] <B7su4> soundray, thank you very much for your help...but also when i go to sudo a command it alsways says that permission denied
[10:33] <sanketmedhi> Storkme, do u have gstreamer-plugins installed/
[10:33] <Storkme> sobersabre, i think it's a problem with the computer, not the software
[10:34] <kroiz> I follow instructions on the wiki:fakeroot ./ati-driver-installer-8.19.10-i386.run
[10:34] <soundray> B7su4, that can happen if you are logged in under a username other than the first one you created during install.
[10:34] <Storkme> sanketmedhi, i used the sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg command like it said on the wiki
[10:34] <devint> is there any video editing software for linux?
[10:34] <mwe> kroiz: but you're not installing at this point, just creating the .deb file, if i'm not mistaken
[10:34] <dukebody> nickrud, i have been using windows since i was a baby
[10:35] <kroiz> mwe: I guess
[10:35] <soundray> B7su4, the first user is entered in /etc/sudoers and has admin rights.
[10:35] <nickrud> dukebody, well, I've been using personal computers since they were available, so there P
[10:35] <soundray> B7su4, for everyone else, you have to enable it explicitly.
[10:35] <kroiz> mwe: but this command holds me back
[10:35] <mwe> kroiz: anyway can't you you run the ati driver binary and it will create the .deb for you?
[10:35] <HighHopes> Hello folks! I made a fresh Ubuntu 5.04 install in server mode (only console)... Is there any problem if I apt-get dist-upgrade ? ... May I need to do something prior to that? Uncomment or add repositories?
[10:35] <dukebody> nickrud, i switched to linux 3 days ago. In fact, i have no ubuntu installed but a distribution based in ubuntu, guadalinex (a spanish distribution)
[10:35] <Storkme> anyone?
[10:36] <sobersabre> Storkme_: maybe you should play with the mixer
[10:36] <Storkme> what mixer?
[10:36] <kroiz> I get /usr/bin/fakeroot: line 150: ./ati-driver-installer-8.19.10-i386.run: Permission denied
[10:36] <sobersabre> Storkme_: which desktop are you using gnome/kde/else ?
[10:36] <mwe> kroiz: well
[10:36] <nickrud> dukebody, I'd heard of guadlinex when I was running debian. Did getting the plugins help yet?
[10:36] <contradictoryben> has anyone here successfully compiled vlc on (x)ubuntu?
[10:36] <Storkme> gnome
[10:37] <blue-frog> HighHopes, if it's a fresh install u'd better make a frsh install of 5.10 right away
[10:37] <kroiz> I cant go on if this command does not work
[10:37] <mwe> kroiz: I don't know why you get that. running the installer with sudo won't hurt, but the file it creates will be owned by root then
[10:37] <sobersabre> if gnome, there is a "volume-mixer" applet - the speaker on the right top. right click it, and play with faders.
[10:37] <sobersabre> bye all
[10:37] <HighHopes> blue-frog, ... but... is that possible to upgrade to 5.10 without losing my current settings?
[10:38] <kroiz> oh
[10:38] <HighHopes> blue-frog, I wish I could upgrade to 5.10 with apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:38] <B7su4> okay thanks
[10:38] <nickrud> dukebody, I've been thinking about software, and I think pan has a clean build, and would teach you a bit.
[10:38] <Storkme> ok, so i still can't get it to work
[10:38] <lightbright> anyone here use GRIP? how can I get GRIP to encoude using MP3 and not .ogg ?
[10:38] <Toran> What is a good binary news downloader I could use? I'm not afraid of command-line stuff, I'd just like something that works and isn't too hard to use
[10:38] <dukebody> nickrud, what's "pan" exactly. I don't understand english very well
[10:38] <mwe> kroiz: that's ok though
[10:39] <Toran> 666 userse in right now
[10:39] <Toran> Hehe
[10:39] <kroiz> ok thanks mwe I'll do that
[10:39] <blue-frog> HighHopes, thought u said it was a frsh install. then dist-upgarde yes..
[10:39] <Toran> What is a good binary news downloader I could use? I'm not afraid of command-line stuff, I'd just like something that works and isn't too hard to use
[10:39] <ortner> How do i install cedega? :)
[10:40] <mwe> kroiz: but you will only be able to move/remove the .deb with sudo, though
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> i bought it :P and followed their docs.
[10:40] <lightbright> can anyone here rip a cd using mp3?
[10:40] <zorba64> ortner: go read their instructions
[10:40] <popey> Toran: http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=+binary+newsgroup
[10:40] <ortner> zorba64: where are they? :) at ubuntus homepage?
[10:40] <popey> Toran: second on that list looks good
[10:41] <Toran> Looks really deprecated to me
[10:41] <HighHopes> blue-frog, where can I see which ubuntu version I have installed right now?
[10:41] <Dr_Willis> lightbright,  i use 'grip' to do that all the time
[10:41] <blue-frog> HighHopes, uname -r
[10:41] <nickrud> dukebody, pan is a newsreader. I good program, been around (and stable) for a while, and I would think any build bugs are long gone.
[10:41] <Toran> popey: thanks :)
[10:42] <zorba64> ortner: nope google for cedega homepage
[10:42] <lightbright> Dr_Willis: im using grip now but it only does .ogg!  how did you get grip to rip using mp3?
[10:42] <kinkoblast> How do I set it up so I can access the files on my ubuntu computer from windows? Samba is running and I can see it in Windows, but I can't figure out how to log in...
[10:42] <mwe> uname -r gives the kernel version. cat /etc/issue shows the ubuntu version
[10:42] <pundai> hey is boost on ubuntu broken
[10:42] <zorba64> lightbright: yep
[10:42] <Dr_Willis> lightbright,  its right there in its settings.. the interface is a little odd. but check all the tabs and menus and isntall the mp3 encoders.. simple.
[10:42] <lightbright> zorba64: yep what?
[10:42] <pundai> boost/assert.hpp is missing
[10:43] <HighHopes> blue-frog, 2.6.10-6-386
[10:43] <lightbright> Dr_Willis: how do I isntall the mp3 encoders.?
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> lightbright,  with synaptic, or 'sudo apt-get whatever'
[10:43] <blue-frog> HighHopes, u're running breezy, the lates
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> lightbright,  theres several different enceoders ya could use
[10:43] <lightbright> Dr_Willis: what apt-get what?
[10:43] <HighHopes> blue-frog, thanks!
[10:43] <lightbright> Dr_Willis: name ONE :)
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> lightbright,  so it depends. :P
[10:43] <Agrajag> lame
[10:43] <zorba64> lightbright: soundjuicer - look at its help > preferences yellowbox at bottom of page
[10:43] <TheCraiggers> Anyone got a few minutes to help me with an nvidia problem?
[10:43] <pundai> h3ll0z did anyone here me or am i q'ed
[10:44] <kinkoblast> lightbright: Why would you WANT to rip to mp3, not ogg
[10:44] <kinkoblast> ?
[10:44] <Dr_Willis> lightbright,  in the settings page - it lists several. or 'apt-cache search encoder'
[10:44] <nickrud> lightbright, for grip get lame, Dr_Willis is working at fitting the description :P
[10:44] <lightbright> zorba64: sound juicer doesnt have a yellobox at bottom
[10:44] <Agrajag> kinkoblast: most portable music players will not play vorbis.
[10:44] <Dr_Willis> nickrud,  i was thinking id used somthing else. :P
[10:44] <dukebody> thanks nickrud , now i have to go to eat
[10:44] <lightbright> nickrud: I have lame installed but it doesnt work through grip for me
[10:44] <kinkoblast> Agrajag, he got a crap player then.
[10:44] <kroiz> mwe: I did: chmod +x ./ati-driver-installer-8.19.10-i386.run.    and It works now (-:
[10:44] <nickrud> lightbright, yellow box at the bottom of the preferences help section
[10:45] <zorba64> lightbright: open soundjuicers help got to preferences section
[10:45] <dukebody> goodbye to all, specially nickrud
[10:45] <Agrajag> kinkoblast: if you say so
[10:45] <ltibor65> nickrud, thousand and thousand of thanks for you: XMMS works!!!! I listen to now : Wind of Change - Scorpions
[10:45] <Red-Sox> hello, snorks
[10:45] <nickrud> ltibor65, np, now, you should have about 17,000 packages available in synaptic :)
[10:46] <TheCraiggers> Anybody know of any current problems with ubuntu and nvidia?
[10:46] <blue-frog> TheCraiggers, what card?
[10:46] <HighHopes> Do I need specific apt repositories to upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10 ?
[10:46] <ltibor65> nickrud, are you from Holland?
[10:46] <blue-frog> HighHopes, you are already on 5.10
[10:47] <TheCraiggers> blue-frog, Geforce3 200 I believe
[10:47] <lightbright> ok I got it working :)  thanks nickrud & zorba64 & Dr_Willis
[10:47] <nickrud> ltibor65, no, Seattle, and living in Houston Texas
[10:47] <kinkoblast> How do I access my files on ubuntu from my windows computer? Samba is runing, but when I try to access it I can't log in.
[10:47] <Dr_Willis> lightbright,  just had to find the menu/config setting eh?
[10:47] <lightbright> kinkoblast: why would you WANT to rip to ogg, not mp3?
[10:47] <blue-frog> TheCraiggers, have u installed ubuntu nvidia driveres?
[10:47] <Agrajag> lightbright: ogg generally sounds much better at lower bitrates.
[10:47] <HighHopes> blue-frog, but I have old libraries... like libc6...
[10:47] <nickrud> lightbright, read !freeformats
[10:47] <kinkoblast> lightbright: Better sound quality, open format (no pattent problems)
[10:47] <valles> PokerFacePenguin: can you still help or are you busy?
[10:47] <HighHopes> I wish I could install new fluxbox version and I can't because of dependencies problems
[10:47] <kinkoblast> !freeformats
[10:48] <ubotu> I guess freeformats is There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[10:48] <zorba64> lightbright: np
[10:48] <TheCraiggers> blue-frog, yeah, I installed the nvidia-glx and the k7 kernel.
[10:48] <lightbright> kinkoblast: hmm interesting :)  good reasons
[10:48] <blue-frog> TheCraiggers, and?
[10:48] <PokerFacePenguin> valles: ask away
[10:48] <PokerFacePenguin> valles: go fer it
[10:48] <PokerFacePenguin> :)
[10:48] <lightbright> So Its better to rip as ogg, because  Better sound quality, open format (no pattent problems)??
[10:48] <TheCraiggers> blue-frog, did I miss something?
[10:48] <Fujitsu_zZz> lightbright, yes.
[10:48] <blue-frog> TheCraiggers, and what's the pb?
[10:49] <valles> PokerFacePenguin: I know how to uninstall on Synaptic, Would that Do?
[10:49] <blue-frog> HighHopes, libc6 is what you get with 5.10
[10:49] <kinkoblast> lightbright: Or rip to flac, then transcode to whatever you need :-)
[10:49] <valles> PokerFacePenguin: or do I have to go the bash way
[10:49] <ltibor65> nickrud, great. I thought from paste.ubuntu.nl that you are Holland.
[10:49] <ardchoille> Not sure if this is a silly question, but, will these work in Ubuntu? http://www.gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=150
[10:49] <zorba64> HighHopes: hava a look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade?highlight=%28breezy%29 & here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes?highlight=%28breezy%29
[10:49] <nickrud> lightbright, about the only real reason to use mp3 is if your portable player requires it
[10:49] <Fujitsu_zZz> kinkblast, true.
[10:49] <nickrud> ltibor65, nah, I use resources from around the world!
[10:49] <TheCraiggers> blue-frog, Well, when I change the driver from nv to nvidia in xorg.conf, it crashes the kernel when x starts.
[10:49] <PokerFacePenguin> valles: synaptic is fine..just make sure u purge all configuration files..ie. remove completelly
[10:49] <lightbright> nickrud: ok
[10:49] <Fujitsu_zZz> nickrud, if I had a portable player that didn't support MP3, it would be in lots of little pieces..
[10:50] <nickrud> Fujitsu_zZz, I still use the little 3 transistor radios
[10:50] <lightbright> well THANKS everyone! I didnt realise all this about ogg!  now I know that it has Better sound quality, open format (no pattent problems)!   Ill use ogg from now on
[10:50] <valles> PokerFacePenguin: Ok .. Il unistall everything related to the three things
[10:50] <B7su4> is there a progrma similiar to limewire for Ubuntu?
[10:50] <popey> \o/ ogg
[10:50] <ltibor65> nickrud, are you often here?
[10:50] <Fujitsu_zZz> And of course, Ogg Theora for video.
[10:50] <TheCraiggers> blue-frog, The last line on the X log is just the detection of the MMIO address... and then nothing.
[10:50] <Agrajag> B7su4: yes, it's called limewire.
[10:50] <PokerFacePenguin> valles: what three things ...are you trying to get LAMP going?
[10:50] <nickrud> ltibor65, too often, really :)
[10:51] <lightbright> kinkoblast: does xmms play ogg?
[10:51] <Red-Sox> Fujitsu: welcome back
[10:51] <nickrud> lightbright, yes
[10:51] <harris> anyone know a proram that where I can rip clips from dvd's and create small animated gifs with them?
[10:51] <Fujitsu> Hi Red-Soz.
[10:51] <blue-frog> TheCraiggers, u shouldn't have to change the driver in xorg by hand, after installing nvidia-glx it should have updated xorg.conf  then u needed to do in a terminal   sudo nvidia-glx-config enable   eventually   sudo modprobe nvidia   afterwards and ctrl+alt+backspace to reload X
[10:51] <pawdro> can anyone help me with installing fonts in mplayer?
[10:51] <Fujitsu> *Soz
[10:51] <Fujitsu> **Sox
[10:51] <valles> PokerFacePenguin: LAMP is?
[10:51] <Fujitsu> This keyboard is horrible.
[10:51] <Fujitsu> Linux Apache MySQL PHP
[10:51] <PokerFacePenguin> valles: sorry...linux apache mysql php
[10:51] <harris> in other words make animated avatars from dvd clips.
[10:51] <ltibor65> nickrud, but what time is it now in Seattle?
[10:51] <valles> PokerFacePenguin: YEah
[10:52] <nickrud> mhm, 2 hours behind, so 1:51pm
[10:52] <PokerFacePenguin> valles: u dont need to remove mysql
[10:52] <TheCraiggers> blue-frog, Yeah, that's how I enabled it in the begining.  But if I actually want it to boot I have to change it back to NV.
[10:52] <valles> PokerFacePenguin: I am new to linux ... sorry for not know  the lingo
[10:52] <valles> cool
[10:52] <TheCraiggers> blue-frog, I wouldn't care as much, but this is for my mediabox, and the NV driver only displays half the screen on my TV.
[10:52] <valles> PokerFacePenguin: I am new to linux ... I had some tables running already ... what Do I remove... Apache?
[10:53] <Fujitsu> valles, then there is WIMP, Windows IIS MySQL PHP...
[10:53] <blue-frog> TheCraiggers, sry then can't help with this card and K7, mine are FX5200 and such on i386
[10:53] <PokerFacePenguin> valles: just remove apache and php and like i said...would remove apache (apache2 also if u got it) and php ...reinstall apache2-mpm-prefork and php4
[10:53] <lightbright> when using ls how do you make it pause after each page?
[10:53] <TheCraiggers> blue-frog, thanks anyway.  I don't actually think it's a card problem though.
[10:54] <Fujitsu> You can pipe it through less or more.
[10:54] <nickrud> lightbright, pipe it through more:  ls | more
[10:54] <ltibor65> nickrud, here is 22:53, also 9 hours difference
[10:54] <blue-frog> lightbright, ls  whatever | less
[10:54] <TheCraiggers> blue-frog, But I've been wrong before.  ;)
[10:54] <Agrajag> lightbright: ls | less
[10:54] <nickrud> more or less
[10:54] <Agrajag> less is better than more
[10:54] <nickrud> ah, but for the specific question ....
[10:54] <Dr_Willis> less is more then more. :P
[10:54] <mwe> more or less it is, yes
[10:54] <Agrajag> more does less than less
[10:54] <Fujitsu> Yeah, more or less.
[10:54] <zorba64> then there is most
[10:55] <Fujitsu> And more is more DOS-ish.
[10:55] <mwe> and less does more than more
[10:55] <Dr_Willis> but at least its not notepad.exe for viewing text. :P
[10:55] <nickrud> someday I'll try most anything :)
[10:55] <lightbright> nickrud: ah thanls :)
[10:55] <Mabus06> How do I change theme colors? I know I can click properties on a panel and change that color, but I want to change the default color from that yellow-grayish color to green.
[10:55] <lightbright> blue-frog: ok thanks
[10:55] <lightbright> Agrajag: cool
[10:55] <The_Isle_of_Mark> so is Dapper running ok for anyone here?
[10:55] <TheCraiggers> Anybody else have knowledge on nvidia?
[10:55] <tritium> TheCraiggers, have you followed the wiki?
[10:55] <nickrud> Mabus06, there's no real equiv in gnome to what you want to do in gnome; you'd have to edit the theme.
[10:56] <lightbright> ls | more and | less seems to do same thing
[10:56] <nickrud> Mabus06, windows vs. gnome, I hope you got my gist :)
[10:56] <TheCraiggers> tritium, Yeah.  I don't appear to be getting that 'new screens found' error that most others get.  It's not even getting that far.
[10:56] <TheCraiggers> tritium, errr, 'no screens..' I mean.
[10:56] <tritium> TheCraiggers, what are you getting, then?
[10:56] <Mabus06> nickrud, but editing the theme only means i can select different theme subsections and combine them (ie use gnome theme for icons, human theme for window borders, etc)
[10:57] <mwe> lightbright: actually less has more features, really
[10:57] <valles> PokerFacePenguin: ok what do I install
[10:57] <Mabus06> And there is no green color.
[10:57] <TheCraiggers> tritium, Well, it appears to completely crash the kernel when I use the nvidia driver.
[10:57] <nickrud> Mabus06, no, i mean *edit* the theme, it's not simple.
[10:57] <tritium> TheCraiggers, do you have linux-restricted-modules that match your kernel version?
[10:57] <PokerFacePenguin> valles: have you got all of that removed completely?
[10:57] <Mabus06> nickrud, how do I edit them?
[10:57] <TheCraiggers> tritium, yeah, I just reinstalled them again a fwe minutes ago to make sure.
[10:57] <valles> PokerFacePenguin: I discovered I had Only installed php4-mysql and php4-common.... not Php4
[10:58] <valles> PokerFacePenguin: yes
[10:58] <Red-Sox> can someone please tell me how to dual-boot... is it hard?
[10:58] <nickrud> Mabus06, download a theme from art.gnome.org, install it in ~/.themes. Then, look around in the directories there. You edit them by hand :)
[10:58] <PokerFacePenguin> install apache2-mpm-prefork (its basically the most standard)
[10:58] <tritium> TheCraiggers, what does your /var/log/Xorg.0.log say?
[10:58] <LjL> Red-Sox: i'm dual booting and i don't have a problem with that. but i installed windows first
[10:58] <valles> PokerFacePenguin: what do I install?
[10:59] <TheCraiggers> tritium, Last night I was pouring through it, and the last line was that line about the MMIO address
[10:59] <lightbright> mwe: ok
[10:59] <Red-Sox> LjL: i have windows installed right now, not ubuntu, though
[10:59] <Red-Sox> LjL: i got a new computer
[10:59] <TheCraiggers> tritium, If you want specifics, I can go look.  Sadly, I can't ssh into the server currently
[10:59] <mwe> yeah installing windows first on a dual boot system saves you from having to reinstall grub
[10:59] <tritium> Red-Sox, the installer can resize your windows partition to make room for ubuntu.
[11:00] <PokerFacePenguin> valles: apache2-mpm-prefork and php4
[11:00] <Red-Sox> tritium: i dont need to resize... just make a new one
[11:00] <tritium> TheCraiggers, you're using ubuntu packages right, and now stuff off nvidia.com?
[11:00] <TheCraiggers> Red-Sox, You can also configure grub manually afte the fact, if your into that.
[11:00] <PokerFacePenguin> !lamp
[11:00] <ubotu> hmm... lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:00] <Red-Sox> TheCraiggers: how?
[11:00] <TheCraiggers> tritium, That is correct.  Straight outa apt.
[11:00] <pawdro> i can't find font.conf in my breezy, where should i search?
[11:00] <tritium> Red-Sox, you can't make a new one without making space for it
[11:00] <Red-Sox> tritium: i have plenty of room left
[11:01] <quacker> The_Isle_of_Mark, interesting nickname.
[11:01] <mwe> tritium: the installer can resize an ntfs partition, safely?
[11:01] <tritium> mwe, yes
[11:01] <Red-Sox> tritium: i only made a 100 gig partition for windows
[11:01] <TheCraiggers> Red-Sox, You just have to edit the grub conf file on your boot directory
[11:01] <The_Isle_of_Mark> quacker thanks, I made it myself
[11:01] <tritium> Red-Sox, okay, good.
[11:01] <Red-Sox> tritium:  i have a 250g hdd
[11:01] <Red-Sox> TheCraiggers: sounds hard
[11:01] <quacker> I'd be interested in hearing about in #ubuntu-offtopic if you're so inclined
[11:01] <Red-Sox> TheCraiggers: is there an easier way?
[11:02] <TheCraiggers> Red-Sox, it was for me because windows basically demands to be installed on the master HD.  But there are ways.  ;)
[11:02] <lightbright> how can I get Juice Ripper to rip faster?  It only rips at 2x speed but my reader can read at 48x!  any help?
[11:02] <TheCraiggers> Red-Sox, Yeah, usually it can do it for you automagically when you install ubuntu
[11:02] <tonyyarusso> Can someone help me with setting up samba stuff?
[11:02] <quacker> (triple-entendre -- heh)
[11:02] <Red-Sox> TheCraiggers: well... can I just install grub and have it boot automaticly
[11:02] <snorks_> hi Red-Sox
[11:02] <lightbright> how can I get Sound Juicer to rip faster?  It only rips at 2x speed but my reader can read at 48x!  any help?
[11:02] <valles> PokerFacePenguin: you have been very helpfull dude
[11:02] <Red-Sox> snorks: hi!
[11:02] <TheCraiggers> Red-Sox, do you already have ubuntu installed?
[11:03] <mwe> tonyyarusso: first, read the wiki, if you didn't
[11:03] <PokerFacePenguin> valles: u get what u needed done?
[11:03] <Red-Sox> snorks_: #Red-Sox if you want
[11:03] <valles> PokerFacePenguin: I did it... but I have to set up the localhost don I
[11:03] <valles> ?
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> lightbright,  check the menus/config/settings yet? :P
[11:03] <The_Isle_of_Mark> quacker I used to bartend and I made a drink caled the same as my nick...just sorta stuck. I use it instead of my normal nick to keep the fans at bay heheh
[11:03] <lightbright> nickrud: any ideas?
[11:04] <nickrud> lightbright, that's more of a software problem; it uses gstreamer0.8-cdparanoia, which is *slow*
[11:04] <TheCraiggers> tritium, So I don't know.  I'd like to ust format it all and start from scratch... as the desktop I'm working on now took the nvidia stuff fine.
[11:04] <Solpe> Hi
[11:04] <lightbright> Dr_Willis: there is none
[11:04] <olicat> does anyone have an idea how i theme scrollbars/sliders in a clearlooks gtkrc?
[11:04] <Red-Sox> TheCraiggers: not on this system, no
[11:04] <TheCraiggers> tritium, but I just spent the last few weeks getting it perfect.
[11:04] <quacker>  /JOIN #ubuntu-offtopic  (if you can be further enticed)
[11:04] <PokerFacePenguin> valles: if you type localhost in the browser address window does it take you to your web srv
[11:04] <PokerFacePenguin> ?
[11:04] <lightbright> nickrud: any solution? how then do I get Sound Juicer to rip faster?
[11:04] <lightbright> nickrud: is it possible?
[11:04] <valles> PokerFacePenguin: i 'll check
[11:04] <nickrud> lightbright, you find out, ping me, will you?
[11:04] <Tedd> Hey.
[11:05] <TheCraiggers> Red-Sox, Then it shouldn't be a problem.  I believe the installer should ask you automatically.
[11:05] <Tedd> I'm back with a fresh install of Ubuntu.,
[11:05] <lightbright> nickrud: so you have no idea?
[11:05] <Red-Sox> TheCraiggers: k
[11:05] <nickrud> lightbright, no.
[11:05] <Tedd> Can somebody help me out?
[11:05] <Tedd> I need to install Gnome2
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> lightbright,  it could be your DMA is not enabled on your cdrom drive
[11:05] <lightbright> does anyone else have an idea how to get Sound Juicer to rip faster than 2x?
[11:05] <Tedd> Gnomad2
[11:05] <lightbright> Dr_Willis: il check that
[11:05] <snorks_> Tedd: perhaps apt-cache search gnomad
[11:05] <snorks_> Tedd: or gnomad2
[11:06] <valles> PokerFacePenguin: connection refused trying to connect
[11:06] <tritium> TheCraiggers, up to you
[11:06] <Snorch> Someone knows if Ubuntu and LTSP works with Folding@Home ?
[11:06] <TheCraiggers> tritium, well, I'm out of ideas.  That's why I'm here.  ;)
[11:06] <Mabus06> uh, I accidentally deleted the panel that has all the windows in it, and the show desktop button (taskbar?) how do I restore it?
[11:06] <lightbright> Dr_Willis: HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Permission denied
[11:06] <mannyman> I'm a newbie, I need something user-friendly for a firewall like Zonealarm ! I hear Mandriva is developing something interactive like that (with popups) any chance of getting it for Ubuntu ?
[11:06] <tritium> TheCraiggers, without seeing your xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log, it's hard to say...
[11:06] <lightbright> Dr_Willis: ok DMA is now ON
[11:06] <lightbright> Dr_Willis: ill try again
[11:07] <PokerFacePenguin> valles: stop and restart the apache2 server to make sure it is running and to test php the standard way is to do the phpinfo() call...which i think you have done already from the sound of it
[11:07] <Tedd> snorks_, the Repository version doesn't work
[11:07] <TheCraiggers> tritium, well, that can be arraged if you want to take the time to help me on it.
[11:07] <psi> Has anyone managed to get IBM's java working with Opera? It keeps crashing on me.
[11:07] <snorks_> tell Tedd repositories
[11:07] <TheCraiggers> tritium, which I'd be eternally grateful for.
[11:07] <PokerFacePenguin> valles: also, if there is a firewall up...make sure you arent blocking
[11:07] <Mabus06> mannyman, ubuntu comes preequiped with firestarter, a firewall
[11:07] <snorks_> !tell Tedd repositories
[11:07] <Tedd> snorks_,  I know all about repositories.
[11:07] <chapium> has anyone here installed php?
[11:07] <chapium> on ubuntu that is
[11:07] <mannyman> don't you know Zonealarm
[11:07] <snorks_> Tedd: Can't help ya then :/
[11:07] <TheCraiggers> chapium, yeah I did a few days ago
[11:07] <blue-frog> Mabus06, no firestarter is not installed by default
[11:07] <andril> hello all
[11:08] <mannyman> In the windows world it is the most user-friendly thing ever
[11:08] <valles> PokerFacePenguin: there is no firewall blocking I know that fer Sure
[11:08] <mwe> chapium: isn't it just a matter of apt-gett mod-php?
[11:08] <andril> anyone know a linux app similar to Xara3D?
[11:08] <chapium> TheCraiggers, is there any additional setup after you install it from synaptic?
[11:08] <mannyman> it tells you when a program wants to access the iNternet and you decide interactively
[11:08] <chapium> its acting like its not turned on or something
[11:08] <lightbright> Dr_Willis: when I turned ON DMA for dvd drive, it now rips at 3.5X instead of 2x :P
[11:08] <TheCraiggers> chapium, are you using apache?
[11:08] <chapium> TheCraiggers, yes
[11:08] <lightbright> can anyone here rip audio CD'
[11:08] <lightbright> can anyone here rip audio CD's faster than 3.5x?
[11:08] <Trashcan> is there a wiki about wireless cards
[11:09] <PokerFacePenguin> sudo /usr/sbin/apache2ctl start
[11:09] <blue-frog> mannyman, basically if u run ubuntu out of the box u don't need a firewall
[11:09] <valles> PokerFacePenguin: I tried to run apache2 and this is what I got... (13)Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to address [::] :80
[11:09] <valles> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[11:09] <valles> Unable to open logs
[11:09] <mannyman> Are you sure ?
[11:09] <PokerFacePenguin> sudo /usr/sbin/apache2ctl start
[11:09] <mannyman> No firewall needed in Ubuntu ?
[11:09] <mwe> chapium: and it's enabled in the apache2.conf file?
[11:09] <chapium> PokerFacePenguin, httpd (pid 24787) already running
[11:09] <mannyman> what about other distros ?
[11:09] <PokerFacePenguin> hmm, was pasting in my box here
[11:09] <lightbright> Dr_Willis: does grip allow faster ripping?
[11:09] <TheCraiggers> chapium, seems like I had to uncomment a line in the conf file.... but that might have been for mysql.
[11:09] <PokerFacePenguin> restart instead of start
[11:09] <djk_> lightbright: you probably don't have dma enabled..
[11:10] <tritium> TheCraiggers, I can take a quick look, sure
[11:10] <lightbright> djk_: yes DMA is enabled
[11:10] <nickrud> mannyman, get the firewall; if you install some packages, they will listen to the net by default (dovecot for imap, for example)
[11:10] <djk_> lightbright: heh, weird.
[11:10] <TheCraiggers> tritium, ok thanks.  I'll post them and send a link....
[11:10] <lightbright> djk_: DMA enabled it does 3.5X, without it does 2x
[11:10] <blue-frog> mannyman, no
[11:10] <lightbright> djk_: you use sound juicer and get over that?
[11:10] <mannyman> nickrud, which firewall
[11:10] <andril> any good 3d rendering software out? I need to make some 3d text
[11:10] <mwe> chapium: you need to make sure apache2.conf has the module enabled
[11:10] <lightbright> andril: Gimp
[11:11] <smo> mannyman, out-of-the-box, there's no services listening, so no worry from inbound connections.  and not having malware/spyware to the extent of That Other OS means very few people have to worry about outbound (let alone do so interactively in realtime)
[11:11] <valles> PokerFacePenguin: ok apache running (i think)
[11:11] <chapium> php should work if its a .html file right?
[11:11] <Tedd> chapium: No.
[11:11] <nickrud> mannyman, firestarter for ease, shorewall for power (and canonical guaranteed security updates)
[11:11] <derek[] > How to install .pcf fonts?
[11:11] <valles> PokerFacePenguin: how do I chek if it is running?
[11:11] <Tedd> chapium, php is exclusive to php, php3, php4, and php5 files.
[11:11] <mannyman> so which is it firewall or no need ?!?!
[11:11] <andril> lightbright: I have been using Gimp for editing to replace Corel - but is there any app that makes 3d fonts?
[11:11] <PokerFacePenguin> valles: localhost in the address window
[11:11] <chapium> tedd, i just noticed it wasnt named that.. probably has something to do with it :D
[11:12] <valles> PokerFacePenguin: got it
[11:12] <valles> PokerFacePenguin: it is running
[11:12] <mwe> chapium: php should work if it's file that apache2.conf says it's supposed to enable php for
[11:12] <mister_roboto> nickrud: what is a "canonical" guaranteed security update?
[11:12] <Tedd> now
[11:12] <Tedd> Does anybody know
[11:12] <Tedd> About Gnomad2
[11:12] <Tedd> And how to get it running
[11:12] <Tedd> Cuz I can't get it up
[11:12] <valles> PokerFacePenguin: it is trying to save again
[11:12] <dampjam> I'm running bind9 on my dhcp server... and I think I got all the zones declared right, but it will not return any A entries
[11:12] <PokerFacePenguin> valles: ok, so web server, done...php isnt done yet
[11:12] <nickrud> mister_roboto, shorewall is in main; main is what the company canonical promises to support.
[11:12] <The_Isle_of_Mark> !punctuation
[11:12] <ubotu> The_Isle_of_Mark: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[11:12] <djk_> nickrud: both shorewall and firestarter use iptables, so what's the difference
[11:12] <mannyman> nickrud, if smd is right why a firewall ?>
[11:12] <smo> mannyman, if you start accepting inbound connetions, it's a good idea to have something to police them.  otherwise, no need
[11:12] <valles> PokerFacePenguin: good
[11:12] <mister_roboto> nickrud: ahhh thx
[11:13] <PokerFacePenguin> valles: need to make sure you have the lib for php and apache2...one sec
[11:13] <dell500> just wondering, but why  don't any of hte apps that are open display on the taskbar?
[11:13] <The_Isle_of_Mark> !punctuation
[11:13] <ubotu> The_Isle_of_Mark: Are you smoking crack?
[11:13] <nickrud> djk_, basically, one is point and click, the other is learn and edit; the support issue is the decider on my firewall builder.
[11:13] <smo> zonealarm's main claim to fame is blocking outbound connections from malware.  no malware = no need
[11:14] <The_Isle_of_Mark> !punctuation
[11:14] <ubotu> I don't know, The_Isle_of_Mark
[11:14] <djk_> nickrud: ah okay, i just use cli..:)
[11:14] <chapium> thanks folks, its working properly.. JUst had a little hitch
[11:14] <mannyman> nickrud, be clear what is accepting inbound connections ?p2p, browser, .. ?
[11:14] <chapium> or brainfart you could say
[11:14] <PokerFacePenguin> valles: install libapache2-mod-php4
[11:15] <nickrud> mannyman, inbound is if you have a web server, or p2p, or anything you want people to be allowed to connect to.
[11:15] <lightbright> how can you use echo in a script file with colour?
[11:15] <Mabus06> how do you make it so in the workspace manager, the icon of the window appears in that workspace button (hard to explain, but it's supposed to be like this by default...)
[11:15] <Tedd> paulproteus: Any luck at all
[11:15] <nickrud> djk_, I'm not about to learn iptables at this late age :)
[11:15] <blue-frog> lightbright, http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[11:15] <lightbright> blue-frog: ok thanks
[11:15] <mannyman> nickrud, what app would help guide me create policies ?
[11:15] <blue-frog> lightbright, http://www.intuitive.com/wicked/wicked-cool-shell-script-library.shtml
[11:16] <lightbright> ty
[11:16] <andril> lightbright: is blender too much? or inkscape?
[11:16] <valles> PokerFacePenguin: it's there already
[11:16] <nickrud> mannyman, shorewall has some pretty good documentation.
[11:16] <lightbright> andril: what?  i was asking how can I use echo in a script file to output coloured text please?
[11:16] <mannyman> I don't want to edit or use terminal please !
[11:16] <mulder> any one know if dapper will have tpm capabilities?
[11:16] <mister_roboto> lightbright: it depends on the terminal you're talking to
[11:16] <psi> Has anyone managed to get IBM's java working with Opera? It keeps crashing on me.
[11:16] <djk_> nickrud: hehe :)
[11:16] <Tedd> Has anybody managed to get Gnomad2 working!?
[11:16] <Mabus06> mannyman, you'll have to get used to terminal at some point. :D
[11:16] <Tedd> It's driving me up a wall
[11:16] <andril> lightbright: u helped me earlier - I was looking for app that will make my fonts 3d
[11:17] <derek[] > How to install .pcf fonts?
[11:17] <nickrud> I mean, they just replaced ipchains yesterday!
[11:17] <andril> lightbright: is blender too much?
[11:17] <TheCraiggers> Tedd, I know the feeling well.
[11:17] <blue-frog> mannyman, firestarter then, u need 2 nics though, so either 2 physical card or a virtual ip eth0:0
[11:17] <ltibor65> nickrud, I still ask you: Can I install k3b with Synaptic, too? And: Must I install any firewall and anti-virus program for Ubuntu?
[11:17] <PokerFacePenguin> valles: hmmm....is apache....regular apache ... installed?
[11:17] <Tedd> TheCraiggers, did you get it running
[11:17] <mannyman> No, newbie's are here Linux to dominate and make linux user-friendly
[11:17] <djk_> nickrud: yea, a looong yesterday ago :p
[11:17] <kbrooks> ltibor65, 1. yes, 2. no
[11:17] <valles> PokerFacePenguin: let me check
[11:17] <tritium> ltibor65, of course you can install k3b with synaptic
[11:17] <mannyman> down with the terminal !
[11:17] <TheCraiggers> Tedd, get what running?
[11:17] <Tedd> Gnomad2
[11:17] <kbrooks> tritium, i win
[11:17] <valles> jsut the apache common
[11:18] <valles> PokerFacePenguin: apache2-common sorry
[11:18] <mister_roboto> mannyman: u sure u want to use linux?  ;)
[11:18] <mannyman> we'rer getting there
[11:18] <JRogerII> how do I determine which driver my NIC uses? I'm running a LiveCD right now
[11:18] <nickrud> ltibor65, k3b yes, absolutely. Antivirus, no; firewall, I'd suggest it because not all servers in ubuntu default to local listening only.
[11:18] <Tuntis> Hello people
[11:18] <Tuntis> I have one question
[11:18] <mulder> ltibor65, antivirus no need.  you should install something like shorewall and configure it anyway if you have some regard for security.
[11:18] <ltibor65> kbrooks, is Linux so secure that not important to install any security program?
[11:18] <valles> PokerFacePenguin: nope it is not installed .. Not apache2 nor apache
[11:18] <Tuntis> How do you do fixmbr with Windows if the XP disk is an "update" disk?
[11:19] <TheCraiggers> tritium, Would you believe that it's not getting the chance to even make a X.log file?
[11:19] <tritium> TheCraiggers, is that right?
[11:19] <lightbright> blue-frog: here is what works:)  echo -e '\033[01;32mfoo\033[01;31mbar\033'
[11:19] <lightbright> andril: sorry im not sure
[11:19] <derek[] > is there a keyboard shortcut for switching workspaces?
[11:19] <lightbright> mister_roboto: echo -e '\033[01;32mfoo\033[01;31mbar\033'   <-- this works green and red output
[11:19] <mister_roboto> lightbright: that will depend entirely on what your terminal type is defined as
[11:19] <tritium> derek[] , Ctrl-Alt-arrow keys
[11:19] <nickrud> derek[] , ctl-alt-arrow
[11:19] <pinkisntwell> can anyone send gmails from evolution? it doesn't accept my password
[11:19] <andril> ok
[11:19] <TheCraiggers> tritium, yeah.  I'm snooping in some other logs to see if I cn find something
[11:20] <tritium> all right
[11:20] <PokerFacePenguin> valles: hmm..my version two is on my other partition........cant check it...the trick is to not let apache....regular apache install over your more current apache2 configuration files
[11:20] <JRogerII> n/m
[11:20] <ltibor65> Thank you very much, boys!!!
[11:20] <MickMcMack> And girls.
[11:20] <djk_> boys?
[11:20] <derek[] > tritium, nickrud : k, thx
[11:20] <MickMcMack> And men.
[11:20] <Dr_AceL> pinkisntwell: works as far as I know, although I haven't actually tried myself
[11:20] <MickMcMack> And women.
[11:20] <PokerFacePenguin> valles: have you tried the howto over at
[11:20] <PokerFacePenguin> !lamp
[11:20] <valles> PokerFacePenguin: it is not... I can guarrantee
[11:20] <ubotu> well, lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:20] <Dr_AceL> pinkisntwell: have you gotten any version of the mail notifier to work?
[11:20] <MickMcMack> And persons of indiscrinate gender.
[11:21] <djk_> i like you too MickMcMack ;)
[11:21] <valles> PokerFacePenguin: I am reeinstalling the libapache2-mod-php4....
[11:21] <MickMcMack> Why thanks djk_ :)
[11:21] <valles> PokerFacePenguin: I don remember unistalling it
[11:22] <ProN00b> can anyone just tell me some technology to play arround with (media player/game/anything...), i am extremely bored ^^
[11:22] <PokerFacePenguin> valles: the config files for apache2 and php4 have to be "jiving" together to make it work....if they are pointing off to an old install it will cause you problems...i ran into that one
[11:22] <TheCraiggers> tritium, argh.  I should have saved that log file I had last night.  Do you have any clue where else I could look?
[11:22] <snorks> ProN00b: subnetting
[11:22] <kbrooks> ltibor65, it doesnt open ports by default, but "linux" includes all linux distributions, and i can say for sure that linux is not truly secure
[11:22] <HrdwrBoB> ProN00b: qemu
[11:22] <LjL> qemu
[11:22] <HrdwrBoB> haha
[11:22] <valles> PokerFacePenguin: How do I shut down apache
[11:22] <tritium> ProN00b, CDMA over fading wireless channels
[11:23] <tritium> TheCraiggers, not at this point...
[11:23] <valles> PokerFacePenguin: and I will get to that ...
[11:23] <PokerFacePenguin> valles: you need to study that howto that ubotu gave you on LAMP
[11:23] <PokerFacePenguin> sudo /usr/sbin/apache2ctl start
[11:23] <ProN00b> subnetting ?
[11:23] <kbrooks> to all: is ubuntu truly secure? 100% secure? metallic secure? hardened secure?
[11:23] <ProN00b> hmm, qemu, hmm
[11:23] <LjL> qemu
[11:23] <tritium> kbrooks, nothing is
[11:24] <ProN00b> whats cdma, tritium ?
[11:24] <tritium> Code division multiple access
[11:24] <valles> PokerFacePenguin: ok... thank you... very much... I had a bunch of things installed and I didn know what they were doing... you were really helpfull
[11:24] <PokerFacePenguin> valles: there is a services item on the menu in gnome....
[11:24] <snorks> tritium: is that like something ethernetish, csma/cd?
[11:24] <TheCraiggers> tritium, Well thanks for your help.  I'm chalking this up in the 'lost cause' category, and I'm just going to reinstall from scratch and do it first this time.
[11:24] <kbrooks> tritium: how about if you unplug the connection to the internet? will ubuntu be TRULY secure?
[11:24] <mulder> kbrooks, not even openbsd claims to be that secure :P
[11:25] <tritium> snorks, no, it's what your cell-phone uses if you're in the U.S. (except for T-Mobile and a few others)
[11:25] <TheCraiggers> kbrooks, no, you always have 'recovery mode' then... =)
[11:25] <valles> PokerFacePenguin: the how to where .... Ubuntuforums???
[11:25] <tritium> TheCraiggers, sorry to hear that
[11:25] <nickrud> put a lock on the case, password protect the bios and boot, and gimme a can opener :)
[11:25] <snorks> tritium: ah, im from norway
[11:25] <mister_roboto> kbrooks: if a human can touch your box it's not secure ;)
[11:25] <PokerFacePenguin> valles: yes....type !lamp in the channel
[11:25] <tritium> snorks, I believe they use GSM in Norway
[11:25] <kbrooks> !lamp
[11:25] <ubotu> lamp is, like, Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:26] <kbrooks> ubotu, tell valles about lamp
[11:26] <Mabus06> how do you make it so in the workspace manager, the icon of the window appears in that workspace button (hard to explain, but it's supposed to be like this by default...)
[11:26] <tritium> kbrooks, depends on who your adversaries are.  If they live in your home, then you're still not 100% secure ;)
[11:27] <valles> PokerFacePenguin: thanks guys
[11:27] <TheCraiggers> back in awhile...
[11:27] <kbrooks> tritium, is being very secure associated with firewalls and the like?
[11:27] <kbrooks> or is it associated with the ability to physically access the pc?
[11:28] <tritium> kbrooks, my real point is that nothing is 100% X, where X could be efficient, secure, fool-proof, etc.
[11:28] <mister_roboto> both
[11:28] <mister_roboto> and more
[11:28] <kbrooks> for me, i run a server, and i find having to type a password upon bootup is very inconvient
[11:28] <kbrooks> for booting the pc
[11:28] <kbrooks> er, server
[11:29] <tritium> so trade off some security for convenience
[11:29] <BotBuilder> well, its reassuring when you are sshing into the server
[11:29] <kbrooks> yes
[11:29] <Tuntis> how would I restore the WinXP bootloader?
[11:29] <HrdwrBoB> BotBuilder: yes but not on *boot*
[11:29] <HrdwrBoB> Tuntis: why would you need to?
[11:29] <BotBuilder> my server is just a comp under the desk with an ethernet cable
[11:29] <kbrooks> i need to change my password (account password)
[11:29] <Mabus06> how do you make it so in the workspace manager, the icon of the window appears in that workspace button (hard to explain, but it's supposed to be like this by default...)
[11:29] <Tuntis> Because i'm going to try to install Ubuntu on an IDE partition, not an usb drive now
[11:29] <mulder> there was an old quote from an fbi agent that went something along the lines of, even if you lock the computer away in a lead encased box, buried 30 meters below ground with fortified 2m concrete walls, he's still not sure that it would be absolutely secure
[11:29] <HrdwrBoB> Tuntis: you can just boot off the windows partition
[11:30] <MickMcMack> My server is just a blade somewhere. :(
[11:30] <Tuntis> (grub is on the windows partition's mbr)
[11:30] <ProN00b> tritium, wrong, Humanity is 100% efficient
[11:30] <kbrooks> mulder, no one will ever be sure if anything is absolutely secure, ever
[11:30] <HrdwrBoB> on the *PARTITION'*'s boot record?
[11:30] <HrdwrBoB> wtf
[11:30] <kbrooks> anyway
[11:30] <tritium> ProN00b, you're funny
[11:30] <Tuntis> erm, grub is on the first IDE drive's MBR
[11:30] <BotBuilder> I was just messing around with cding around teh directory structur (linux noob)
[11:31] <HrdwrBoB> yes
[11:31] <BotBuilder> how do i tell between a file and a dir with a "dir" call?
[11:31] <mhall> Hello. I'm a Debian user that wants to take advantage of an ubuntu source package. If I need the latest bleeding edge version, I assume I should go with what's in dapper. Is this correct?
[11:31] <Mabus06> how do you make it so in the workspace manager, the icon of the window appears in that workspace button (hard to explain, but it's supposed to be like this by default...)
[11:31] <kbrooks> BotBuilder, ls*
[11:31] <HrdwrBoB> and windows will boot if you chainload its *partition*
[11:31] <darkgamer20> I added my hp officejet k80 with the gnome printer manager, but whenever i try to print from OO.o the printer dose not do anything it just sits there. I am sure that the hplip driver is installed, any ideas about what might be wrong?
[11:31] <nickrud> keep it turned off, I guess. I mean, I have nothing on this machine that's sensitive, yet I stll worry.
[11:31] <Tuntis> but the problem is I want to take the $@$@!! grub off so that I could reinstall Ubuntu in an another drive
[11:31] <BotBuilder> kbrooks - ah, cool, thanks
[11:31] <mister_roboto> BotBuilder: if "ls -l" has a "d" in the first column, it's a directory
[11:31] <mulder> mhall: dapper is probably a wee bit broken, you should try sid packages
[11:32] <BotBuilder> normal dir should work
[11:32] <BotBuilder> mister_roboto - well, colors work for me :)
[11:32] <kbrooks> mister_roboto, ummm, a bit too confusing for him. hint: rephrase
[11:32] <mhall> mulder: Yeah, about that, I can't because it does not yet exist.
[11:32] <BotBuilder> kbrooks - i get it
[11:32] <mhall> mulder: I believe I can avoid most of the brokenness by compiling from source.
[11:32] <BotBuilder> ah -l is handy though
[11:32] <kbrooks> BotBuilder, if > "ls -l" <
[11:32] <mister_roboto> kbrooks: what did i say?   :O
[11:33] <BotBuilder> gives you all the detail
[11:33] <kbrooks> confusing part :P
[11:33] <mhall> mulder: But in any case it's not a core critical component so if it does break I should be able to keep both pieces without too much hassle.
[11:33] <mister_roboto> kbrooks: the both and more thing?
[11:33] <mulder> mhall, heh ok
[11:33] <mulder> mhall, well if it's in marillat or if it's in ubuntu breezy then try that
[11:33] <derek[] > How to install .pcf fonts?
[11:33] <mulder> or compile like you said
[11:33] <derek[] > Please!!!!!
[11:34] <tritium> please what?
[11:34] <derek[] > help
[11:34] <darkgamer20> please help me. I added my hp officejet k80 with the gnome printer manager, but whenever i try to print from OO.o the printer dose not do anything it just sits there. I am sure that the hplip driver is installed, any ideas about what might be wrong?
[11:34] <tritium> you need to ask a question, then, derek[] 
[11:34] <mhall> mulder: All it is is the kat desktop search engine. I tried to build from SVN and from the source rels but there are some secrets of SQLite I could not decipher and SVN seems to not build.
[11:34] <derek[] > How to install .pcf fonts?
[11:34] <kbrooks> derek[] , not a question
[11:34] <kbrooks> AND BE CALM!!!!!
[11:34] <mister_roboto> !font
[11:34] <BotBuilder> vmlinuz -> boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-386
[11:34] <ubotu> 'fixed' is the one true font!
[11:34] <derek[] > I asked it three times
[11:34] <BotBuilder> is this a shortcut like thing?
[11:34] <mister_roboto> !fonts
[11:34] <ubotu> I heard fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[11:35] <kbrooks> derek[] , your 3 times from above as far as i can see
[11:35] <tritium> derek[] , then it appears that nobody has an answer for you at this time.  Please wait and try again later.
[11:35] <nickrud> BotBuilder, yes, it's called a link in linux
[11:35] <BotBuilder> ok
[11:35] <kbrooks> are not real questions
[11:35] <BotBuilder> I'll remember that
[11:35] <tonyyarusso> How do I set the IP address for my wireless network interface?  Some option with ifconfig or iwconfig?
[11:36] <derek[] > l
[11:36] <derek[] > ok
[11:36] <tritium> mhall, please, we don't need to be notified when you purge crap
[11:36] <derek[] > thx for the link
[11:36] <nickrud> lmao, tritium
[11:36] <olive> thx for the crap
[11:36] <mulder> Tony_Sidaway, using the gnome networking tool, or using ifconfig
[11:36] <gnomefreak> nickrud, isnt it called a link in any os? :(
[11:37] <kbrooks> BotBuilder, you make a link with something like ... ln -s /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-386 /vmlinuz. the first non-option argument is the place where you want the link to be placed in
[11:37] <nickrud> gnomefreak, if my rickety memory serves, they keep calling them shortcuts in windows
[11:37] <mister_roboto> gnomefreak: windows doesn't have them
[11:37] <mister_roboto> nickrud: shortcuts are not at all the same
[11:37] <nickrud> mister_roboto, I know, that's why I pointed out 'link'
[11:37] <gnomefreak> they do? omg things have changed i have always called a link a link cause it links you somewhere else :(
[11:37] <mister_roboto> :)
[11:37] <BotBuilder> kbrooks - ah, and the second nonoption would be the actual link?
[11:37] <BotBuilder> that doesnt make sense
[11:38] <mhall> tritium: have you got a channel rules page please
[11:38] <kbrooks> BotBuilder, it does if you look at the arrows
[11:38] <BotBuilder> lol
[11:38] <BotBuilder> ok
[11:38] <kbrooks> and envision it, and then reverse the output without the arrows
[11:38] <Tony_Sidaway> mulambo, I think your last remark was directed towards tonyyarusso .  Autocomplete on xchat?  That bites me too :)
[11:38] <BotBuilder> I'd think it'd create it in the current directory though.
[11:38] <nolito> any french-speaking ubuntu user online ?
[11:38] <tritium> !tell mhall about coc
[11:38] <Tony_Sidaway> duh!
[11:38] <_jason> !fr
[11:38] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[11:38] <nolito> merci !
[11:38] <MickMcMack> gnomefreak, a link that links you somewhere, don't be preposterous!
[11:39] <Tony_Sidaway> mulder, My last remark prefaced mulambo was directed to you :-D
[11:39] <mhall> tritium: thanks
[11:39] <_jason> nolito, de rien!
[11:39] <mister_roboto> gnomefreak: you should read up on the difference between hard and soft links too. it's instructive
[11:39] <AlexRM> Hey,
[11:39] <AlexRM> Why when ever I use XMMS does it constanly flash in the Application bar thingy magig?
[11:39] <kbrooks> list(reversed("vmlinuz -> boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-386".split("->"))) # -> ["boot/vmlinuz-...", "vmlinuz"] 
[11:39] <mulder> Tony_Sidaway, ah yep probably
[11:39] <kbrooks> that's python code
[11:40] <gnomefreak> mister_roboto,  if its a link its a link weather soft or hard to me
[11:40] <tritium> whether
[11:40] <mulder> Tony_Sidaway, i kinda just tab and not pay attention heh
[11:40] <gnomefreak> ty
[11:40] <BotBuilder> kbrooks - lol
[11:40] <gnomefreak> lol no spell check
[11:40] <mhall> mulder: yeah; looks like the ubuntu source builds pretty well
[11:40] <tonyyarusso> mulder: Do you know how with ifconfig?
[11:40] <mister_roboto> gnomefreak: the concept of "somewhere else" does not really apply to hard links though
[11:40] <mhall> mulder: i'll have to see if my third-rate hack release does the job
[11:40] <BotBuilder> So links are actually stored as plain text kbrooks?
[11:41] <kbrooks> BotBuilder, No
[11:41] <BotBuilder> It just inserts an arrow in teh args and saves
[11:41] <kbrooks> no
[11:41] <kbrooks> ...
[11:41] <BotBuilder> well then its no prob ;p
[11:41] <Mabus06> how do you make it so in the workspace manager, the icon of the window appears in that workspace button (hard to explain, but it's supposed to be like this by default...)
[11:41] <mulder> mhall, hehe
[11:41] <kbrooks> BotBuilder, learn python one day ;) it's used a lot in ubuntu
[11:41] <BotBuilder> I know it
[11:41] <BotBuilder> some
[11:41] <mulder> tonyyarusso, ifconfig <interface> <ip>; man ifconfig for more details
[11:41] <BotBuilder> I use a .net dialect that's closely related
[11:42] <gnomefreak> mister_roboto, whether it brings you to a page in a domain or a place other than the page your on its a way for you not to have to either open something or type an address thats all i mean by brings you somewhere else
[11:42] <Mabus06> kbrooks, in one day? That would be impressive.
[11:42] <kbrooks> ["ln", "-s", "boot/vmlinuz-...", "vmlinuz"] 
[11:42] <BotBuilder> kbrooks - I know about 51 different langs
[11:42] <hydroksyde> python.net?
[11:42] <kbrooks> BotBuilder, ^
[11:42] <BotBuilder> damn
[11:42] <BotBuilder> 15
[11:42] <BotBuilder> typo
[11:42] <SGershon> Is there a defrag and/or scandisk app in stock ubuntu? I didn't found. I bet its right under my nose.
[11:42] <tonyyarusso> mulder: Thanks.
[11:42] <Mabus06> maybe you can master typing next then, BotBuilder ;-)
[11:42] <BotBuilder> lol
[11:42] <kyle_> hi
[11:42] <mhall> mulder: mercifully SVN gave me a make uninstall to forcibly rip it out of /usr/local
[11:42] <kbrooks> that is what the ln program gets as arguments
[11:42] <BotBuilder> hydroksyde: no, boo
[11:42] <hydroksyde> SGershon: fsck will check your file systems for consistency
[11:42] <mulder> SGershon, nobody defrags reiser or ext3
[11:42] <BotBuilder> there's two .net pythonic things - boo and ironpython
[11:43] <BotBuilder> I prefer boo
[11:43] <kbrooks> BotBuilder, heh ironpython is cool
[11:43] <Trashcan> i have up to 1600x1200 listed in xorg.conf under 24 bit, but i can't go higher than 1024x1280 in Preferences->Screen Resolution
[11:43] <Trashcan> anyone know why?
[11:43] <hydroksyde> hydroksyde: fsck=scandisk, but you don't need defrag
[11:43] <Mabus06> Can anyone tell me why it is that for python files, the default ubuntu icon is a picture of a cobra?
[11:43] <BotBuilder> kbrooks - yeah
[11:43] <mulder> mhall, ah cool :) that's a must these days. i hate it when you compile manually and have to go through lengths to delete it
[11:43] <tonyyarusso> mulder: That was ridiculously easy.  I was figuring there must be some command prefix before the ip.
[11:43] <BotBuilder> it's more accurate approximation of python
[11:43] <hydroksyde> Trashcan: Because according to your monitor settings, your monitor wont support it
[11:43] <SGershon> mulder, thanks!
[11:44] <nickrud> Trashcan, X is reporting you can't go higher; look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log for some hints
[11:44] <SGershon> hydroksyde, that'll be great.
[11:44] <BotBuilder> but I like boo cuz it isn't too religiously close to python - it improves on it
[11:44] <kinkoblast> Mabus: To show that it's a python file...
[11:44] <BotBuilder> for sxaple static typing :)
[11:44] <kyle_> I have just started using linux ubunto and i really need help can anyone help me
[11:44] <SGershon> mulder, I was suspecting something like this.
[11:44] <Trashcan> thanks, looking
[11:44] <MenZa`> I'm trying to compile gplflash, but it says my C++ compiler (g++) cannot create executables
[11:44] <Mabus06> kinkoblast, but why not use a python instead of a cobra?
[11:44] <BotBuilder> kyle_ - so did I, what do you need help with
[11:44] <mulder> tonyyarusso, well ifconfig is the command :) it would've been easier if you just used the gnome networking tool, which is a GUI configuration device
[11:44] <Trashcan> would it be under WW or EE?
[11:44] <SGershon> kyle_, what's the question? Fel free.
[11:44] <MenZa`> what am I doing wrong :\?
[11:44] <DuDE27> is inotify included breezy 2.6.12-10-386 stock kernel?
[11:45] <kbrooks> BotBuilder, well
[11:45] <nickrud> MenZa`, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:45] <kbrooks> ...
[11:45] <kinkoblast> Mabus06, maybe the person who drew it couldn't draw a python?
[11:45] <MenZa`> ah, thanks nickrud
[11:45] <MenZa`> that's all I need?
[11:45] <kyle_> botbuilder. i need to know how to install programs i have downloaded on linux. do u know?
[11:45] <Mabus06> well either way, I think in dapper the icon for python files should be a python rather than the current cobra design
[11:45] <Mabus06> it irritates me lol
[11:45] <nickrud> Trashcan, it's not an error, look for something like default screen or display
[11:45] <MenZa`> Mabus06: lmao
[11:45] <MenZa`> You some sort of reptile activist :D?
[11:45] <gnomefreak> MenZa`,  it a great start since it has make and everything in it
[11:46] <lightbright> gnomefreak: hey hey :) whats new?
[11:46] <nickrud> MenZa`, it gives you a compiler, make and a couple other tools; you may need more based on what you're compiling
[11:46] <zorba64> Mabus06: install different icon set?
[11:46] <MenZa`> awesome, thanks guys
[11:46] <DuDE27> noone knows?
[11:46] <LasseL> do you think dapper is going to boot any faster then breezy?
[11:46] <Mabus06> MenZa`, are you sure snakes are reptiles? I thought reptiles were legged creatures.
[11:46] <MenZa`> first compile in progress..
[11:46] <lightbright> LasseL: March 2006
[11:46] <BotBuilder> kyle_ - i've never really done anything like that, only 'apt-get' stuff.  Depends on what you downloaded i guess
[11:46] <ltibor65> nickru, I installed k3b with synaptic, but it requires cdrdao. The system do not find cdrdao executables. How can I install it for k3b?
[11:46] <mhall> mulder: not so good as i thought though
[11:46] <Mabus06> zorba64, the point is, it's a cobra, not a python (it has a crown)
[11:46] <gnomefreak> good evening lightbright
[11:46] <kyle_> printer drivers
[11:46] <mhall> mulder: left behind a lot of cruft
[11:46] <LasseL> lightbright, that's a hell of a boot time :p
[11:46] <MenZa`> Mabus06: just asking 'cos I am :P
[11:46] <SGershon> Question: can someone explain how are the ACPI and the APIC related?
[11:46] <lightbright> gnomefreak: good morning :)
[11:46] <gnomefreak> :)
[11:47] <lightbright> LasseL: hehe ;)
[11:47] <Storkme_> can anyone recommend a good cd -> mp3 ripper for CD's ?
[11:47] <Storkme_> can anyone recommend a good cd -> mp3 ripper for CD's ?
[11:47] <Trashcan> 'Total of 9 modes found for primary display.'
[11:47] <MickMcMack> ltibor65, apt-get instal cdrdao
[11:47] <mhall> mulder: i had to strip *kat* out of /usr/local by hand cause it conflicted with some other stuff
[11:47] <MickMcMack> +l
[11:47] <mulder> mhall, bugger
[11:47] <Trashcan> (**) fglrx(0): *Mode "1024x768": 65.0 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 48.4 kHz, 60.0
[11:47] <Trashcan> Hz <-- is the first 'mode'
[11:47] <Mabus06> MenZa`, actually no, I was almost arrested once as a child because I had a domestic snake as a pet which is illegal on military bases
[11:47] <owner989> stork use lame
[11:47] <mhall> mulder: hopefully everything was named *kat* or i'm screwed hehe
[11:47] <lightbright> Stork: Soiund Juicer or Grip
[11:47] <SGershon> I understand supperficially what they do, but I've read that they are related, but could not understand how.
[11:47] <owner989> lame is the best mp3 encoder
[11:47] <MenZa`> Mabus06: hahahahahahaha, what species?
[11:47] <lightbright> Stork: use vogg not mp3
[11:47] <zorba64> Mabus06: i get your point  i changed icons  i have big green pythons now
[11:47] <mhall> Mabus06: are all pets illegal or...
[11:47] <Mabus06> domestic animals
[11:48] <mulder> mhall, you could alwys look at the makefile to see what things it installed where, but that's rather tedious
[11:48] <Mabus06> it was a garter snake, MenZa`
[11:48] <MenZa`> Hmm.. I have an orange ratsnake myself.
[11:48] <lightbright> Stork: ogg has Better sound quality, open format (no pattent problems)!
[11:48] <mhall> mulder: yeah especially with dynamically generated ones
[11:48] <owner989> lol gnome it is
[11:48] <Mabus06> Well as I said, they're only illegal if they live in Canada natively. You can't have wild animals as pets I guess. *shrugs*
[11:48] <mulder> i'm beginning to dislike gnome
[11:49] <nickrud> gnomefreak, lame ain't an mp3 encoder
[11:49] <lightbright> gnomefreak: its like calling something great bad :)
[11:49] <gnomefreak> nickrud,  i didnt say it was
[11:49] <Storkme_> lightbright, can i use ogg on ipods?
[11:49] <MenZa`> mulder: I personally prefer KDE
[11:49] <nickrud> gnomefreak, l a m e :)
[11:49] <lightbright> Storkme_: ipods support ogg yes
[11:49] <gnomefreak> :)
[11:49] <Storkme_> really?
[11:49] <lightbright> MenZa`:  whats your faviour colpur?
[11:49] <mulder> MenZa`, are you running kubuntu?
[11:49] <theCore> Storkme_, use linux for ipods :D
[11:49] <gnomefreak> favorite color?
[11:49] <lightbright> Storkme_: why ask me if you doubt what I say? :P
[11:49] <zorba64> Storkme_: i dont think so my shuffle wasnt interested in them
[11:49] <MenZa`> mulder: yes.
[11:50] <lightbright> MenZa`:  whats your faviourite color?
[11:50] <mulder> MenZa`, is it nice ? :)
[11:50] <Storkme_> theCore, i would but it seems like a risk
[11:50] <mulder> for dapper, i'll switch to kubuntu methinks
[11:50] <lightbright> MenZa`:  mine is purple and if you hate purple, nobody is right or wrong, its simply personal prefernce, same applies to KDE and Gnome :)
[11:50] <MenZa`> mulder: I like it :P
[11:50] <Trashcan> so maybe my video driver isn't able to go higher than 1024?
[11:50] <MenZa`> lightbright: true
[11:50] <owner989> gnome has much nicer fonts
[11:50] <MenZa`> Trashcan: probably not setup correctly
[11:50] <lightbright> MenZa`:  :)
[11:51] <gnomefreak> and i thought i was the only one that liked purple :)
[11:51] <theCore> Storkme_: there is no risk, if you mess your ipod you can allways get the original firmware
[11:51] <MenZa`> mine couldnt either, but I now run 1600x1200
[11:51] <lightbright> gnomefreak: hehe ;)
[11:51] <Trashcan> (**) fglrx(0): *Mode "1024x768": <-- the first mode listed
[11:51] <Trashcan> it goes down from there
[11:51] <Storkme_> theCore, what are the advantages of linux over the itunes software?
[11:51] <Trashcan> what did you change menza?
[11:51] <owner989> trash did you run fglrxconfig
[11:51] <MenZa`> Trashcan: I don't remember :o
[11:51] <kinkoblast> Is there a way to read OpenDocument files form OpenOffice.org on Ubuntu in Microsoft Word?
[11:51] <gnomefreak> Storkme_, linux is already installed :) and its free
[11:51] <nickrud> Trashcan, you need to get your monitor specs, and plug in the vert and horiz values under device
[11:52] <MenZa`> kinkoblast:  ntiko
[11:52] <nickrud> *in xorg.conf
[11:52] <Trashcan> k
[11:52] <MenZa`> when compiling it, I do ./configure
[11:52] <MenZa`> but I can't do make for some reason
[11:52] <mulder> kinkoblast, nope. you gotta convert first
[11:52] <theCore> Storkme_ : ipodlinux.org
[11:52] <zorba64> kinkoblast: there is a addon for msword i think...have fun finf=ding it
[11:52] <MenZa`> what's the exact command - make check and make install
[11:52] <owner989> kinko you can save in word format in openoffice
[11:52] <kinkoblast> MenZa`, ntiko?
[11:52] <gnomefreak> <<<not stepping out on nothing its raining :(
[11:52] <MenZa`> not that I know of
[11:52] <Seveas> kinkoblast, you'd better export to ms word format from OO.o
[11:52] <nickrud> Trashcan, doing google <exact monitor model> xorg.conf probably will find it immediately
[11:52] <mulder> microsoft are assholes and dont support the opendocument format
[11:52] <MenZa`> meaning if you have saved as odt, you can't open them in msword
[11:52] <Trashcan> :p k
[11:53] <MenZa`> but you can save them as .doc and numerous other types
[11:53] <owner989> trashcan you know about sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:53] <owner989> ?
[11:53] <Trashcan> yea owner
[11:53] <Trashcan> i did thta yesterday when i installed the driver
[11:53] <owner989> are you using ati
[11:53] <ltibor65> MickMcMack, apt-get cannot install cdrdao. What to do now?
[11:53] <gnomefreak> later all time to go eat
[11:53] <Trashcan> yessir
[11:53] <owner989> i would run fglrxconfig
[11:53] <Trashcan> i am now
[11:53] <MickMcMack> ltibor65, why can't it? :s
[11:53] <kinkoblast> MenZa', the problem is I don't have OO.o at school, and I have a terrible memory for thing slike remembering to save in doc before mailing it to school
[11:54] <kinkoblast> Is there a small odt -> doc converter independent of the large OO.o or Abiword?
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> !info cdrdao
[11:54] <MenZa`> okay, guys, time's short and I need help
[11:54] <ubotu> cdrdao: (Disk-At-Once (DAO) recording of audio and data CD-Rs/CD-RWs), section universe/otherosfs, is extra. Version: 1:1.1.9-3ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 373 kB, Installed size: 1064 kB
[11:55] <MickMcMack> ltibor65, sudo apt-get install cdrdao works fine for me. :-\
[11:55] <MenZa`> with compiling
[11:55] <MenZa`> I navigate to /home/menza/Desktop/gplflash/
[11:55] <MenZa`> then ./configure
[11:55] <MenZa`> now I need to make, what's the command for that - `make, make or whatever?
[11:55] <zorba64> MenZa`: make
[11:55] <MenZa`> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[11:56] <ltibor65> MickMcMack, it's written that there are no avaiable version of dao. Perhaps problems with /etc/apt/source.list?
[11:56] <MenZa`> lo Hobbsee  :)
[11:56] <MickMcMack> ltibor65, you want cdrdao, not dao. :s
[11:56] <zorba64> MenZa`: did configure finish without errors?
[11:56] <jones-> Evening
[11:56] <Hobbsee> hey MenZa`
[11:56] <MenZa`> zorba64:  let's see.
[11:56] <owner989> what are you trying to compile menza
[11:56] <MenZa`> checking whether to build static libraries... no
[11:56] <MenZa`> owner989: gplflash
[11:57] <ltibor65> Yes, cdrdao.
[11:57] <MenZa`> checking whether -lc should be explicitly linked in... no
[11:57] <Stork> god i love linux
[11:57] <MenZa`> checking if gcc supports -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions... no
[11:57] <Mabus06> How do you make accented characters with an english keyboard? On the OS whose name shall not be spoken, for instance for an accented e it is alt+130... but that does not work on ubuntu can someone please help me?
[11:57] <zorba64> MenZa`: dont
[11:57] <nickrud> MenZa`, at the bottom, it will say something about a make file :)
[11:57] <zorba64> use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl for the lot
[11:57] <jones-> I have googled a lot but couldn't find a solution to my problem: I'm running Ubuntu 5.10 on an iBook. And there's this problem with sound (ALSA): only one program at a time can acquire the device, and so, for example, if xmms is playing, no other program can play sounds. Any suggestions? thanks...
[11:57] <MenZa`> alright
[11:58] <Garek> :)
[11:58] <MenZa`> firefox takes ages to launch..
[11:58] <ltibor65> MickMcMack, have you Ubuntu 5.10?
[11:58] <robotgeek> jones-: you either need esd to manage it for you, or use alsa with dmix
[11:58] <nickrud> ltibor65, are the lines with universe in them uncommented ( no # at the beginning) in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[11:58] <owner989> it loads instantly for me menza
[11:58] <Mabus06> MenZa`, get 1.5
[11:58] <MenZa`> Mabus06: dunno how to upgrade :s
[11:58] <jones-> robotgeek, thanks, I will google about it
[11:58] <owner989> im using 1.0.7
[11:58] <MenZa`> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5355
[11:58] <owner989> menza what kernal are you using
[11:58] <MickMcMack> ltibor65, yep.
[11:58] <robotgeek> jones-: a good tutorial is on the alsa site, www.alsa-project.org , search for dmix
[11:59] <Mabus06> MenZa`, you cannot upgrade you have to install it separately (if you dont care about retaining settings it's easy as pie, but in either case there is a howto to transfer remembered passwords and bookmarks and such)
[11:59] <MenZa`> owner989: huh, KDE?
[11:59] <Mabus06> !firefox
[11:59] <owner989> no i mean are you using the 386 kernel
[11:59] <ubotu> Mabus06: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[11:59] <owner989> or 686
[11:59] <MenZa`> 64bit
[11:59] <MenZa`> if that's what you're looking for
[11:59] <nickrud> MenZa`, take a look at wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats, it tells you the packages to install for compiling gplflash
[12:00] <zorba64> MenZa`: you are missing libjpeg
[12:00] <nickrud> hopefully
[12:00] <odat> I have a slave drive which access path is /Slave but i do not have permissions to write to it any help?