[12:05] I've installed mysql but it don't start [12:05] I get this error: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)' [12:06] gand_: hi there === mhz_cleanin has no idea bout mysql === mhz_cleanin is now known as mhz [12:07] I wish to install phpbb [12:08] otherwhise I can use edubuntu reinstlled postgre but I don't know haw to set postgre root password [12:08] reinstlled - preinstalled === pirast [n=pirast@p508B2E01.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #edubuntu === pirast [n=pirast@p508B2E01.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #edubuntu [] [12:40] gand_: have you tried #ubuntu ? [12:40] IMHO, I guess those guys are very general linux related experts [12:41] remeber that Edubuntu is nothing but Ubuntu + LTSP (edubuntu one) + educational apps. [12:43] I'm tryng #mysql, #ubuntu is very crowded :) === ratpH1nk [n=jon@cpe-24-27-85-108.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu [01:03] quick question about the distro [01:03] any PPC branch? (for all of those old macs?) === ajmitch_ [n=ajmitch@port163-97.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #edubuntu [01:05] aftrenoon [01:05] ogra_: you're famous - edubuntu on slashdot :) [01:06] that is what caught my attn :) === dfused [n=dfused@c-24-1-34-99.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [01:11] so, since I've never used ubuntu linux, and didn't find anything yet on the page....... will this OS run win apps? === Lord_Athur [n=alejandr@pc-30-37-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [01:12] hi everyone [01:13] hi [01:13] :) [01:13] mhz, I found a program (GAMBAS) and it is really similar to VB [01:13] and I used VB in windows [01:14] this allows me to program in Linux [01:18] what do you think mhz ? [01:19] dfused, same win apps as any other distro === dfused [n=dfused@c-24-1-34-99.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has left #edubuntu [] [01:19] .. [01:24] heh === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@200.121.122.155] has joined #edubuntu [01:31] just as a heads-up, there's an article on /. that's about to go live on edubuntu === Lord_Athur [n=alejandr@pc-30-37-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has left #edubuntu ["Abandonando"] [01:38] about to? [01:38] it's been live here for quite awhile === Domingus [n=test@ti541210a080-4273.bb.online.no] has joined #edubuntu [02:07] Is the edubuntu cd available as alivecd? or just as a pure instal to hd? [02:08] Domingus: both [02:08] ajmitch_: hmm, maybe a cache issue on my end? *shrug* [02:09] Great, then ill hava go at it.... [02:09] Thanks by the way... :) [02:11] Domingus: err, I'm thinking Dapper. If you want Breezy, there are install ones only. [02:11] Domingus: Sorry about the mix-up [02:13] Ok. I was thinking of the Breezy. Ill just have to wait a bit then :8 [02:13] But thanks anyway.. [02:13] you could always try edubuntu in a vmware session, for instance :) [02:28] mhz, mysql problem solved: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=542031 === oneman [n=oneman@ip68-230-208-113.rd.hr.cox.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:33] gand_: heeeeee! === mhz is now known as mhz_movie === mhz_movie BBS [02:43] thanks bye === gand_ [n=gand@81-208-84-206.ip.fastwebnet.it] has left #edubuntu ["Sto] === Steve_Dondley [n=chatzill@71.192.222.179] has joined #edubuntu [03:29] hi, cool distro [03:29] what kind of hardware is needed to run this? [03:31] hello? [03:52] Steve_Dondley: i386, amd64 for the Breezy install CDs [03:52] processor speed? ram? [03:52] thanks [03:53] I've got an old dell machine. wondering if it will work [03:53] the Ubuntu requirements are a good guideline [03:54] ok, i'll have a look. [03:54] I'd say 300 MHz with 128 MB will be fairly sluggish [03:54] hmmm, not sure if it has that [03:54] amout of ram [03:55] then you'll need to make fairly drastic modifications to make it run more smoothly [03:56] though since it uses LTSP, the client requirements are much lower [03:56] LTSP? [03:56] I don't use any desktop manager myself so it's almost all greek [03:56] http://www.ltsp.org/ [03:57] huh, that's interesting. [03:58] you are saying ebuntu has ltsp built into it. That's cool. [03:59] my nephew, whose family is rather poor, were looking to have me build a machine for them. This is perfect, though he just turned 3. [03:59] Do you know if there are games available for 3 year olds. /. says it's geared for kids 5 to 12. [04:03] I don't know of any specifically for 3 year-olds [04:03] I don't see the harm in trying it out [04:03] no big deal. There's lots of flash games on the net he could use. [04:04] yeah, I'll definitely give it a shot. I'll probably set one up for my kid. [04:05] nice :) [04:05] Yeah, he loves his old beat up laptop with several keys missing. Sesamestreet.com is his current favorite! [04:06] thanks for the help. [04:06] I'm interested to check out the installation for ubuntu myself. I hear it's quite remarkable. [04:08] it's pretty straightforward, hopefully [04:08] all hardware have their quirks === dr_b [n=brent@pcp0011232902pcs.whtmrs01.md.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === mhz_movie is now known as mhz_zzZZ === dr_b [n=brent@pcp0011232902pcs.whtmrs01.md.comcast.net] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === ealden [n=ealden@219.90.91.34] has joined #edubuntu === ealden [n=ealden@219.90.91.34] has joined #edubuntu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #edubuntu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu [09:04] ogra_, ping === Cturtle [n=jan@a213-84-50-38.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #edubuntu === Cturtle_ [n=jan@a213-84-50-38.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #edubuntu === Cturtle [n=jan@a213-84-50-38.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #edubuntu ["Konversation] === Cturtle [n=jan@a213-84-50-38.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@200.121.122.155] has joined #edubuntu === Ender_ [n=Ender@host-216-89-225-138.terranova.net] has joined #edubuntu === Ender_ [n=Ender@host-216-89-225-138.terranova.net] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu [11:44] ogra_, ping! === pirast [n=pirast@p508B1419.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #edubuntu === euthydemus [n=mhough@host86-143-246-80.range86-143.btcentralplus.com] has joined #edubuntu [12:12] does anybody know if problems are holding up a PPC rollout? === RichiH [i=richih@freenode/staff/richih] has joined #edubuntu [12:25] hi [12:25] is there a live cd? [12:25] I only see install cds === bill [n=bill@54-063.adsl.zetnet.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu === RichiH too [12:32] which sucks as my sister will not install anything until her thesis is finished [12:32] nad i want to let her daughter use linux :) [12:33] Good morning (in Scotland anyway). Sorry to interrupt. I'm trying to install Edubuntu 5.10 on AMD 64 and it is failing during the base install task. It tells me to look at /target/var/log/bootstrap.log but that directory is empty. The last message I can read before it gets overwritten with the message is something about not being able to download package zlib1g. === juliux is now known as ELT [12:34] (oh, I'm doing a workstation fresh install, btw) === sven-tek [n=sven-tek@muedsl-82-207-255-103.citykom.de] has joined #edubuntu [12:39] bill: i do not use ubuntu, but it would seem that the server is wrong, does not hold the file any more, is overloaded or your network connection is bad [12:39] bill: you canjust apt-get install edubuntu-desktop from (k)ubuntu, btw [12:41] RichiH: maybe it is overloaded. I'm giving edubuntu a go today because it was mentioned on slashdot yesterday. Maybe other people are too. I'm doing a fresh install because I am switching from Fedora Core 4. [12:43] it's always good to switch to debian from red hat :) [12:43] or ubuntu & fc, in this special case ;) [12:43] RichiH: maybe I'll leave it a few hours and try again. (I think my network connection is good. I'm using another PC sharing the same connection right now. And the DHCP lookup seemed to go well during edubuntu install) [12:45] RichiH: well, I switched from Mandriva to Fedora Core 4 about five months ago and have since discovered Ubuntu. I thought I'd try out Edubuntu on my kids' PC and see how it goes. [12:47] bill: I also had some problems with zlib1g [12:47] bill: but burning a new cd solved my problem [12:50] lucasvo: oh? interesting. the iso checks out okay with md5. [12:50] lucasvo: i'll burn another. === Mr_G [n=jochen@p50911EF1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #edubuntu === pirast [n=pirast@p508B1419.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #edubuntu === pirast [n=pirast@p508B1419.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #edubuntu [] [12:51] bill: in my case I had a bad isoimage === blue-frog [n=james@81.56.254.229] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu [01:18] :) reburning the CD worked (same iso image). At least, I'm further through installation then last time === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-201-251.tpgi.com.au] has joined #edubuntu === bill is running edubuntu successfully now. thanks. === pirast [n=pirast@p508B1419.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #edubuntu [01:46] bill: it is strange [01:46] bill: I have to look into it more deeply [01:47] bill: what do you think, is it only bad luck or some strange code? === in8 [n=in8sworl@ool-45721026.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #edubuntu [01:59] any humans in here? [02:00] any plans for a live CD version of edubuntu? [02:03] in8: yes, this is a habit for homo sapiens [02:04] edubuntu is too big for a livecd [02:04] perhaps a livedvd in future ? [02:05] i heard that there will be a livecd in edubuntu dapper maybe [02:05] afk [02:05] yes that may be, ogra knows best - but not for not for breezy [02:06] ahgh, s/not for not for/not for/ [02:06] cool. I just installed my first ubuntu on friday. Very nice [02:06] morning [02:06] lots of confusing about edubuntu in the slashdot post btw [02:07] few people expect standalone install but set up a classroom server [02:07] it's on slashdot ? [02:07] yup [02:07] that's where I saw the edubuntu announce too === Yagisan has been busy with "real life" [02:08] guess the installer should ask in a menu if you want a classroom server or a standalone [02:08] Yagisan, good for you :) [02:08] IIRC you had to type "worstation" at install to get a stand alone [02:09] spacey: I'm happy to trade changing nappies for a few hours at the pc - want to sap [02:09] s/sap/swap [02:09] oh [02:09] crap [02:09] ;) [02:09] workstation ;p [02:09] worstation ;P [02:09] warstation! [02:10] My take on the live / install thing: I think a lot of peopl have a PC they don't want their kids messing with, so if they can boot a live CD for the kid's session (at home) they'd be happier. [02:11] in8, i think you can just do a normal install [02:11] much faster [02:11] also, perhaps a 'pared down' version that fits on a CD for poor humans who don't have a DVD drive? [02:11] they can't mess up the system anyway if there are not sudo user [02:12] in8, edubuntu comes on CD [02:12] Most people use windows still [02:12] Im talking live CD, Yagisan suggested a liveDVD earlier [02:12] in8, well there is the live cd if you really want to use it. but i recommend installing it [02:13] there is a livecd [02:13] of edubuntu? [02:13] hmm yeah, but i think its for dapper [02:13] in8: I suggested for future [02:13] I installed the Ubuntu at work and am using it as a hylafax server [02:13] hylafax? [02:13] brb - my rsi is acting up, need to find a pain killer === Yagisan would like to set up hylafax - looks nice [02:14] I popped in today after seeing a slashdot post about EDUbuntu, but didn't see a liveCD version on *that* [02:14] spacey: google hylafax, its a fax server [02:15] spacey: I had to change media sources and apt-get it [02:16] Yagisan: I'm using it in conjunction with WHFC - works good [02:19] in8: The only thing that stops me deplaoying it === Yagisan can't type today [02:20] is what? WHFC? [02:20] deploying it is, I haven't figured out a way to diverting incoming voice calls to and answering machine, while still taking incoming faxes === Yagisan chews on my codeine dry [02:21] we have a PBX system which is separate from a couple of normal lines we use for faxing [02:22] seems like you could use something like http://www.asterisk.org/, no? [02:23] I have 1 (for the foreseeable future anyway), so until that changes, or I build a ubuntu-based answering machine ... [02:23] ah [02:23] asterisk is overkill then [02:23] but nice [02:23] I already checked it out. I need to move before I can deploy that [02:24] what about distinct ring or something like that? [02:25] IIRC distinct ring services were incompatible with my adsl service, but to be honest - it's been a while since I checked [02:26] oh well. That seemed like the perfect solution since hylafax supports it [02:29] wow - that slashdot article really is misinformed [02:29] I didn't actually read it, I just saw there was an edubuntu and ran to investigate [02:30] Yagisan: I *did* just find a fax switch compatible with ADSL here: http://www.office1000.com/supplies/commandcommunications.html [02:30] they missed the target audience [02:30] how many slashdotters have kids I wonder? [02:30] I do [02:32] in8: thanks - I'll talk to telstra tomorrow about if I have a similar service here [02:32] I have kids, but I don't read slashdot often. To many trolls, I prefer lwn [02:32] lwn? [02:33] in8: http://lwn.net/ [02:35] Yagisan: thanks! /. does have other kinds of info too though - science, etc. I'm also a Mac user === Yagisan wonders why the article didn't mention it is targeted at *schools* that teach 5-12 year olds === Yagisan likes mac hardware, but not the os [02:36] Yagisan: too early for *that* old debate ;) [02:37] I totally missed that the target was schools. Makes good sense [02:37] My oldest is in 1st grade and they're using awful windows junk [02:37] Yagisan, yup the article is really bad [02:37] but maybe its not clear on our main page? [02:37] in8: I just like to tinker with the hardware [02:38] or people just don't read properly [02:38] in8: my kids are too young for edubuntu ATM (21months and 17 days) [02:38] Yagisan: cool! no sleep for you anyway, plenty of time to tinker [02:39] spacey: If they had had edubuntu when they were kids, they would have no trouble reading the front page :-P [02:39] my 12 year old sister wants to use Ubuntu because I use it :D (finally giving some good examples) [02:39] Yagisan, :) [02:40] my wife commented today that her new system (an Ubuntu breezy based thin client) is much nicer then her old windows system [02:40] I thought that was odd, as she never comments about the pc's [02:41] I have convinced mine to use Mozilla instead of Outlook / IE, but so far a linux system on her PC is not happenin'. I managed to get her on Win Server 2003 at least [02:41] in8: no time for me to tinker :( The kids barely leave me time to go to the loo in peace [02:42] it's 12:45am and the oldest is running around with her nappy in her hands [02:42] brb [02:46] re [02:48] so, being new to ubuntu - is the distro based on debian? I have trad. used Redhat / Mandriva [02:53] basicly yes [02:55] So far, I haven't run into any 'show stoppers' - the dpkg system is not much different from rpm (from a users perspective), and the /etc/init.d/ services work the same way. I was afraid I wouldn't be able to do anything [02:59] in8: It should run smoothly for you, if not we can give specific help on edubuntu or ltsp stuff here [02:59] in8: and general help is in #ubuntu [03:00] Yagisan: thanks, I'll add #ubuntu to my startup list. === in8 [n=in8sworl@ool-45721026.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #edubuntu === TheMafia [n=TheMafia@12-221-115-249.client.insightBB.com] has joined #edubuntu [03:12] is there a livecd version of edubuntu? [03:12] haha! I came and asked the same question! [03:12] lol [03:12] not yet apparently [03:12] you must have just read slashdot as well [03:12] yeah [03:13] yagisan was really helpful [03:13] I can stear completely clear of winblows because my son has too many games that won't play on linux [03:13] did he say if there was a live cd planned? [03:13] I thought there would be a lot of parents who didn't want to mess up their windows systems [03:13] TheMafia: I'm still here [03:14] its pretty late in Aussie land [03:14] in8: you got it :) [03:14] Yagisan, is there a livecd planned? [03:14] Yagisan: note - I did not set this up (full disclosure) [03:15] in8, you mean there is a way to avoid messing up your windows system :) [03:15] TheMafia: No livecd atm, ogra would like to make one for dapper (next release) [03:15] HAHA [03:15] Yagisan, thanks, I will check back soon, any expected dates on the next release? === Yagisan is not actually a dev - I just do some ltsp work and tech support here [03:16] TheMafia: It releases same time as Ubuntu main release, [03:16] TheMafia: usually October and April are release months [03:16] thanks [03:18] in8: so, what tipped you off to me being in Oz ? [03:19] when you ran off i did a whois (is that bad irc form?, sorry) when you said it was 12:45am to confirm my maths - saw the .au domain [03:19] Im in NY [03:21] Cool, I do whois lookups on interesting people too :) [03:22] I think there is a way to script a message to yourself when you're whois'd but Im an IRC newbie... [03:24] in8: I'm a bigger newbie at irc - I just fire up gaim and have only learned the /me command === mycket [n=ossi@i577AEF63.versanet.de] has joined #edubuntu [03:25] in8: only having something faster then dialup for a few months may be the cause of that [03:25] Yagisan: Im using xchat on OS X but highly recommend it === mycket [n=ossi@i577AEF63.versanet.de] has left #edubuntu ["...] [03:27] in8: I didn't really like xchat, I do like having all protocols I use on the one client though [03:27] Yeah, I use gaim when on Linux too. [03:28] is there a list of all the software avail in EDUbuntu? [03:28] in8: no, it's several thousand packages [03:29] in8: if you mean key packages [03:29] in8: it *should* be highlighted on the wiki [03:30] in8: just fire up synaptic, or if you like terminal based, aptitude and browse the huge list [03:30] in8, same software as available in ubuntu [03:30] helps if you add universe repository [03:30] in8: you may need a net connection for some apps in main, and for all of universe and multivesrse [03:30] *multiverse [03:33] it boggles my mind how schools could still be paying for Microsoft when there's enough open source free stuff to run a small nation === macgyver2 [n=eric@pdpc/supporter/student/macgyver2] has joined #edubuntu [03:35] in8: It's called "vendor lock-in" [03:37] The Microsoft guys show up at the teacher conferences, but I've never seen a linux kiosk at one. [03:38] (Im talking about shows where new technologies / products / books are shown and teachers can attend and browse [03:39] also, the person who runs the computers at a school probably has to have some kind of piece of paper certificate to get the job [03:39] MCSE [03:39] thats where i come in :P [03:39] we migrate schools from windows to edubuntu :P [03:40] at least thats our goal [03:40] and the parents are probably afraid that kids will learn the 'wrong' software [03:40] brb [03:40] just started since edubuntu is quite new [03:40] spacey: cool! where are you? [03:40] the netherlands:) [03:40] ah :( [03:40] i don't mind going abroad:P [03:40] too progressive for the evil empire [03:42] its quite a pain to migrate it btw, but we are finishing up our reference project and seems really promising [03:42] we can deploy it fairly quick in the future [03:42] same for businesses [03:43] is there really any *migration* of data? what data, if any, gets migrated? [03:43] sure [03:43] or is it just replacement of OS [03:43] documents, e-mail [03:43] ah [03:43] I was thinking the kids programs [03:43] and we currently create a mixed environment [03:43] well there are some kids programs [03:44] and we fix a few with wine, and the rest is lost [03:44] too bad:P [03:44] I run a mixed environment - I have migrated some of the servers to linux [03:44] they just use a lot of programs that the teachers bought themselves for 20 euro at the local bookstore [03:44] migrating profiles from ADS to samba was a bit of a pain [03:45] but we succeeded [03:45] That has me stopped [03:45] maybe its worth flying you over :) [03:45] :D [03:45] would be cool :P [03:45] you live in USA i assume? [03:45] My company is not going to do that just yet though - end of cycle is next year [03:46] yeah [03:46] New York [03:46] ah :) [03:46] end of cycle of ? [03:46] the software licenses or something? [03:46] they expect to get a certain number of years out of the software investment [03:46] before upgrades / changes [03:46] ah yeah [03:46] well next year is fine :P [03:47] were still finishing this up and finetuning our skills regarding migration at this point [03:47] I will be able to pitch changes to the DHCP / DNS servers next year sometime [03:48] We had to migrate the ADS because its so tightly knitted to dhcp/dns [03:48] right now we're only doing database (oracle), cvs, and web servers on linux [03:48] and we needed those on linux [03:48] for the thin clients [03:48] makes sense [03:48] and you can't just turn dhcp off on the ADS machine [03:48] hell breaks lose [03:49] we have some show stoppers there though - CAD software we use (SolidWorks) is only windows I think [03:49] yeah, well you can keep those users on windows [03:49] its not a problem [03:49] just replace there office software and such with OO.o [03:50] solidworks integrates to Microsoft Office unfortunately [03:50] theres a lot of that [03:50] and they we do it, users get the same files wether they log in to the ubuntu terminal server or on the windows network [03:50] nasty [03:51] My first experience with ubuntu was quite good though [03:51] well guess you'll keep a few windows users or your net [03:51] but at least you can switch serverside completely [03:51] and clients where wanted [03:52] seems possible [03:52] thats how we do it now [03:52] is your government using Windows? [03:53] yup [03:53] us too [03:53] although i heard some stories of a few towns switching, but its not widely spread [03:53] one state (massachusetts) has recently mandated open standard for docs [03:54] then microsoft came out with an open standard announcement [03:54] but of course its their standard [03:54] tricky bastards [03:54] gotta run - breakfast calls - nice talking with you all [03:54] see you :) === in8 [n=in8sworl@ool-45721026.dyn.optonline.net] has left #edubuntu ["Any] === mugroar [n=mutante@port-212-202-21-98.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #edubuntu === Elsan [n=geno@Sherbrooke-HSE-ppp3609435.sympatico.ca] has joined #edubuntu [05:02] I'm thinking of installing Linux on my aunt's old computer(ALWAYS gets LOTS of spyware for some reason) instead of Windows. They have a 4 year old kid, would EduBuntu be a good idea? [05:04] Elsan: workstation install should be ok, 4 is a little younger then the target audience, but it should be ok [05:05] It's primarily for work and internet use but I think it could be useful later [05:06] Elsan: no worries, edubuntu is ubuntu + education apps [05:06] Ok. Anyway, I'll just download "ubuntu-desktop" [05:06] Does GNOME run well on an old computer also? It ran Windows 2000. I don't think KDE can fit for sure. [05:08] Elsan: more ram helps more then cpu speed [05:08] 256MB+ is ideal [05:09] Thanks. Do you know if the applications are available in french? [05:09] Elsan: A lot should be translated, when installing, pick french as the default language [05:10] and whatever has french translations should work [05:10] Ok, thanks! [05:11] If it doesn't have enough RAM for Gnome, I'll just install xubuntu, I'm a little familiar with it. [05:11] Elsan: your welcome [05:11] Elsan: Ubuntu doesn't install on anything less then 64MB [05:11] I tried [05:11] on a 64MB box is is slow (constant swapping) [05:11] s/is is/it is [05:11] It runs Windows 2000, so it should be okay. [05:12] 128MB was better [05:12] Edubuntu looks really cool [05:12] I like the look [05:15] Should I install with the "workstation" entry? [05:15] LTSP is for classroom use? [05:15] yes, for a single desktop install === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu [05:16] ltsp sets up extra things not needed for a single edubuntu desktop === Elsan [n=geno@Sherbrooke-HSE-ppp3609435.sympatico.ca] has joined #edubuntu [05:22] Yagisan: Would it be the same if I just installed Ubuntu from my normal CD and then install "edubuntu-desktop"? [05:22] Same as "workstation". [05:23] AFAIK yes [05:24] AFAIK? [05:24] as far as i know [05:25] yes :) workstation is the same as ubuntu+edubuntu-desktop [05:25] Elsan: ys [05:25] yes === Yagisan waves at ogra [05:26] Ok, then I will use my Ubuntu cd. Thanks. === ogra waves back [05:26] Would LTSP be useful for only 2 computers? === ogra had a nice talk about edubuntu yesterday ... lots of interest ... [05:26] Elsan: make sure it's a breezy cd, and you have a net connection working [05:26] Elsan: I could be, I have 3 working clients off my server [05:27] s/I/It [05:27] I will install it on one computer for now. Thanks. [05:27] Elsan: was 5 clients, but I had some rain damage :( [05:27] :( [05:27] brb [05:28] ogra: how was the talk ? [05:29] it was ok ... i'm not really used to talk in german :) [05:29] i would like to add an ubuntu/edubuntu install to a computer that currently has debian (and grub) installed. Do i have to split / make new partitions manualyl before or can i just throw in the installer cd [05:29] ogra: did you see edubuntu on slashdot ? [05:29] mugroar: what version debian ? [05:30] yup ... i wonder if it was an outcome of yesterday ... [05:30] Yagisan: cat /etc/debian_version says 3.1 [05:30] mugroar: you could upgrade from some versions of debian to ubuntu [05:31] Yagisan: i want debian and ubuntu peacefully coexist and show up in the grub boot loader [05:31] mugroar: ok, need to carve out a chunk of space for it then. [05:32] using parted i guess? [05:32] mugroar: I don't know, I always set my systems up with lvm and just add and remove space with that [05:32] http://photos.shermann.blogweb.de/main.php/v/elt2005/?g2_page=2&g2_GALLERYSID=c504231f9c2b3182f27c9f7383b71d4c [05:32] ^^^ pics from the talk [05:34] ogra: you're not used to speaking in german ? [05:34] Yagisan: ok, thanks, maybe it would be nice to have that option included in the installer, to split an existing partition, to make it easier if possible [05:34] you grew a beard :o === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-133-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === Elsan [n=geno@Sherbrooke-HSE-ppp3609435.sympatico.ca] has joined #edubuntu [05:35] Yagisan, not really ... i'm easier finding the right words n english while holind talks ... i have to think about the right german transaltion all the time ... to used to englih words at work *g* [05:36] mugroar: I don't have any say on installer, I'm just a freelance guy that does support, and sends patches (+new bugs) for ltsp [05:36] Yagisan: Where do you live to have your computer damaged by rain? [05:37] Elsan: Top floor of the apartment block. We had some *really* bad wether in Sydney a few days ago [05:37] Ok. [05:37] I had rain *horizonally* through the windows [05:37] :O [05:37] and water came out of the powerpoints === ogra remembers the rain when he wa in sydney ... [05:38] I took pictures with my phone === Yagisan thinks it's more like the hurricanes I used to experience when I lived on the Gold Coast [05:39] Thank you for your help. I think Ubuntu will work much better for them since it won't have spyware and they're able to do the same things as in Windows. I think it will also be easier to learn computers for my cousin. [05:40] Elsan: It's a nice system, my wife has no troubles with it [05:40] Elsan: and she had never used a *NIX system until I set her system up [05:40] mugroar, afaik the partition resize feature actually *is* in the installer (at least in breezy [05:40] ) [05:41] I will let them try it on their old desktop and if they like it, I can always install it on their primary comp(laptop). === Yagisan hasn't installed breezy === Yagisan installed hoary and dist-upgraded === Lord_Athur [n=alejandr@pc-30-37-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:41] hi [05:43] Ubuntu works so well, I don't have Windows installed and only run it in VMware for my VB.NET classes. === ariel [i=ariel@cbl-sd-01-103.aster.com.do] has joined #edubuntu [05:44] hi [05:44] Elsan, [05:44] is vmware free? [05:45] Lord_Athur: no [05:45] ok [05:45]