[12:16] <boga> just edited the /etc/apt/sources.list file accordingly and added "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main". Now how do I install kde 3.5?
[12:16] <Hobbsee> boga: sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:17] <LeeJunFan> boga: might need to make that a 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[12:17] <am> are there PPC builds for KDE 3.5 yet ?
[12:17] <boga> ok
[12:17] <boga> thanx
[12:19] <YazzY> hi guys
[12:19] <YazzY> i have problems with VIA EPIA-M and the lates kubuntu CD
[12:20] <YazzY> it boots but then it hangs on the initial screen
[12:20] <YazzY> is there a different kernel i can use during installation ?
[12:23] <courtney> :)
[12:24] <hugelmopf> YazzY: have you tried any of the boot options, that you can find, if you press F1-F6?
[12:25] <YazzY> hugelmopf: the problem is it just constantly jumps into installer and i never get any prompt asking me for an action
[12:25] <YazzY> it just boots the kernel and loads the startup screen
[12:25] <hugelmopf> i think this is the startupscreen i mean
[12:26] <hugelmopf> the one where you have to press enter to boot?
[12:26] <YazzY> hugelmopf: there is anything on boot asking me to press enter
[12:26] <hugelmopf> one step back: have you already installed, or are you trying to install?
[12:26] <YazzY> there is nothing like a prompt
[12:26] <YazzY> hugelmopf: trying to install
[12:26] <YazzY> i am booting the latest installation CD 
[12:27] <YazzY> i just toasted it from an iso image 
[12:27] <hugelmopf> ok, that sounds correct so far ;-) can you remember which steps you see during boot of that cd?
[12:28] <YazzY> it just shows a lilo message i think for a second or so and jumps right into the image with kubuntu logo
[12:29] <YazzY> ISOLINUX .... copyright by Peter ..
[12:29] <hugelmopf> if we are talking about the same thing, this is not only an image, but also includes a prompt.
[12:29] <courtney> woot
[12:29] <hugelmopf> i don't have it here right now, because i only have this laptop around
[12:29] <hugelmopf> but is there a prompt "in this image"?
[12:29] <YazzY> there is no prompt 
[12:29] <YazzY> wait
[12:29] <hugelmopf> can you press F2?
[12:29] <YazzY> hah!
[12:30] <YazzY> seems like the scren resolution is too high
[12:30] <YazzY> omg
[12:30] <YazzY> i just pressed enter
[12:30] <YazzY> and it went futher on
[12:30] <YazzY> so the problem is with mobos when you set up custom screen resolution
[12:30] <hugelmopf> hehe... ok. but then you will have a too high screen resolution for the rest. reboot, i will try tell you how to fix it
[12:30] <YazzY> mine was 1024x768 i think
[12:31] <YazzY> hugelmopf: the CLI menu looks normal
[12:31] <hugelmopf> do you see the bottom gray line?
[12:32] <YazzY> is 800x600 or 640x480 the normal resolution ?
[12:32] <neoncode> is their an easy way to restart the Xserver?
[12:32] <YazzY> neoncode: HUP it
[12:32] <hugelmopf> neoncode: logout etc., Ctrl-Alt-F1, login, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[12:32] <YazzY> or press ALT+CTRL+Backspace
[12:32] <neoncode> ohhh thanks!
[12:33] <YazzY> kdm is only a login manager
[12:33] <hugelmopf> yes, but that should also restart the x-server i believe
[12:33] <YazzY> nope
[12:33] <YazzY> X is a separate process
[12:34] <seth_k|lappy> no, it restarts X too
[12:34] <deemo> could someone here help me set up VNC on kubuntu? Its giving me missing libary errors
[12:34] <YazzY> weird, i now set the resolution to 640x480 and i still cannot see any command prompt 
[12:34] <hugelmopf> i wouldn't argue, but i was pretty sure it restarts x
[12:34] <neoncode> before I just used "sudo init 1" then entered my root passwd and used "kdm" or "startx"
[12:34] <hugelmopf> yazzy: where are you changing resolution?
[12:35] <YazzY> in my bios
[12:35] <hunika> GOOD NIGHT
[12:35] <hugelmopf> i have no idea, what that does. but if you are at the prompt, you can enter (blindly) the option "linux vga=771" and the next steps might fit better on your screen
[12:38] <robhert> hola, alguien q' hables espaol?
[12:38] <hugelmopf> deemo: you trying to setup a VNC server or viewer?
[12:39] <robhert> #kubuntu-es
[12:40] <deemo> hugelmopf, i am trying to set up a server, and it is giving me the error that libstdc ca nnot be found, even though It is installed
[12:40] <hugelmopf> exact error message?
[12:40] <YazzY> thanks guys
[12:40] <YazzY> buy
[12:40] <YazzY> bye even
[12:40] <YazzY> :)
[12:41] <deemo> error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:42] <am> anyone konw how i could request PPC KDE 3.5 packages ?
[12:42] <LjL> deemo: apparently you need the package libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2
[12:44] <deemo> actually, once i cleaned up some extra files and reinstalled, I cant even access the server binary...
[12:44] <hugelmopf> deemo: in case an executable is missing a library, you can run e.g. "ldd /bin/ls" to see which ones it needs.
[12:49] <brosio> how can i install all package from a repository 
[12:49] <brosio> ?
[12:50] <LjL> *all*?
[12:51] <brosio> yes
[12:52] <robhert> hello!, How can i install kde-i18n-es package?
[12:52] <LjL> robhert: sudo aptitude install kde-i18n-es will do it
[12:53] <djk_> LjL: mmh would apt-get install *   install all packages?
[12:53] <LjL> djk_: i ain't going to try it :)
[12:53] <djk_> neither am i hehe
[12:54] <LjL> i think that would be globbed by the shell, though, and result in a list of the current directory's contents...
[12:54] <djk_> LjL: why did ubotu not post !ntfs ?
[12:55] <LjL> i'm not sure, i think i've put it into "defense mode" by making two queries in a row, or something
[12:55] <LjL> at least, i suppose that's what happened when *i* typed !ntfs
[12:55] <djk_> i got a query with its content..
[12:55] <djk_> did you get one as well?
[12:55] <LjL> when *you* typed it, i think it wasn't displayed simply because i had typed "/msg ubotu tell trashcan about ntfs" ;)
[12:56] <LjL> no, not when doing it in the channel
[12:56] <djk_> heh, weird...
[12:56] <djk_> well usually when two people type !foo right after each other one at least gets the message "it has been typed 1 sec ago"
[12:59] <seth_k|lappy> djk_, if an ubotu response is too large it will not appear in the channel, it'll be queried instead
[12:59] <seth_k|lappy> that's why !ntfs doesn't appear :)
[12:59] <djk_> seth_k|lappy: i see, then i guess the ntfs entry should be shortened.
[12:59] <LjL> uhm,
[01:00] <LjL> [00:59]  <ubotu> somebody said ntfs was the (N)ew(T)echnology(F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Microsoft's Windows NT; 2000; XP; Media Center; and Server2003 (tm) operating systems. It was developed concurrently with and uses the same partition schema (type 0x07) as IBM's HPFS (H)igh (P)erformance (F)ile (S)system. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions.
[01:00] <LjL> i agree with djk, as this seems to contain information that might be interesting but are not very releavnt for support
[01:00] <seth_k|lappy> yeah, I think so. I'll shorten it... just that last part should be in there
[01:00] <seth_k|lappy> ubotu forget ntfs
[01:00] <ubotu> i forgot ntfs, seth_k|lappy
[01:00] <musashiden> heya everyone
[01:00] <musashiden> i have a little problem
[01:01] <seth_k|lappy> ubotu ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[01:01] <ubotu> seth_k|lappy: okay
[01:01] <seth_k|lappy> thanks ubotu :)
[01:01] <courtney> what is the login you use for Webmin?  root/pw and user/pass doesn't work
[01:01] <courtney> i thought webmin always wanted a root login?  perhaps I am wrong
[01:02] <musashiden> i just finished upgrading from hoary to breezy. and when i rebooted my pc, X wont start up
[01:02] <seth_k|lappy> musashiden, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:02] <seth_k|lappy> you probably have a bad Files section
[01:02] <musashiden> it just stays on the boot up screen and the last thing it said was "checking battery state"
[01:03] <musashiden> ok seth_k|lappy, will do
[01:08] <musashiden> same deal :\
[01:08] <laziz> hi all, i am new to kubuntu, can anybody tell me which reporsitory has "java-package"? 
[01:09] <musashiden> it wont even start the command line, it just frozen in the boot up part :s
[01:11] <brosio> anyone could explain me why not all the kde play good when i maximize and minize windows the sound ends immediatly i've check on kde settings an into it play good any helps ?
[01:14] <musashiden> im getting this error, i got this from the Xorg log\
[01:15] <musashiden> Fatal server error:Fatal server error:
[01:15] <musashiden> no screens found
[01:16] <musashiden> anybody? :s
[01:17] <djk_> grozniy: deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu breezy java   add that to /etc/apt/sources.list if you're using i386
[01:18] <musashiden> -sigh-
[01:18] <ruggy> anyone ever install kubuntu on vmware
[01:25] <musashiden> -pokes the channel-
[01:28] <kkathman> lol
[01:28] <musashiden> heh
[01:33] <kkathman> evenin LjL :)
[01:33] <LjL> hi
[01:47] <Ahmuck> how do i make a boot install disk for kubuntu from windows ?
[01:49] <brosio> in kde3.5 remove the icon to minimize all windows ?
[01:51] <LjL> Ahmuck: can't you make a CD?
[01:51] <LjL> brosio: what's the icon you're talking about?
[01:51] <Ahmuck> yes, the cd is made, but the computer does not boot from a cd
[01:52] <LjL> Ahmuck: i see
[01:53] <LjL> i'm not seeing any floppy image on the official site
[01:55] <djk_> Ahmuck: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/topic-14601.html  maybe this helps..
[01:56] <LjL> "Linuxforums.org will be back soon - we're currently moving servers" :o)
[01:57] <djk_> heh, i _just_ was on that site???
[01:57] <LjL> don't ask me
[01:57] <djk_> now i get that too..
[01:58] <djk_> ETA 15 mins, so..let's wait :)
[01:58] <LjL> uh, where's the ETA? i'm not seeing that!
[01:58] <djk_> UPDATE (20:34pm GMT): We were having a few difficulities migrating the database due to some mysql versioning problems; we hope to have these resolved now, ETA to completion is another 15 minutes.
[01:59] <djk_> it's right in the middle of the screen
[01:59] <LjL> of *your* screen perhaps! :D and yes, i have updated the page
[01:59] <djk_> LjL: weird things going on there..
[01:59] <LjL> yep
[02:00] <djk_> LjL: my int3rn3t pwnz j00rs
[02:00] <djk_> or something like that..
[02:00] <LjL> you wish, how much bandwidth have you got? :P
[02:00] <djk_> 2mbit down/192kb up
[02:00] <djk_> i think..
[02:01] <djk_> not sure on the up
[02:01] <djk_> could be 256..
[02:01] <LjL> 10mbps symmetrical, either down or up ;)
[02:01] <djk_> i don't "up" ;)
[02:01] <djk_> damn you :p
[02:01] <LjL> so i 0\/\/N you ;)
[02:01] <djk_> yea i guess i'm your bitch now :(
[02:01] <BigKahuna> Can you apply a start-up sound to the KDM boot splash sequence?
[02:02] <BigKahuna> I know you can have start-up sounds for KDE, but I want to play the sound a little earlier.
[02:02] <LjL> BigKahuna: i'm not sure, but you could hack that in...
[02:02] <raphink> yes I guess you'd have to hack it
[02:03] <raphink> by default, it plays at the end of the KDE startup
[02:03] <BigKahuna> LjL, Yeah? I figured using moodin you could do something like that but I wouldn't know where to start.
[02:03] <raphink> BigKahuna: start by reading the mooding manual if there's one ;)
[02:03] <LjL> BigKahuna: you could edit /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsession and add a command to play a sound
[02:03] <raphink> s/mooding/moodin/
[02:04] <raphink> pretty good idea LjL :)
[02:04] <LjL> not sure arts would be happy then, though, when it starts!
[02:04] <LjL> if it starts right while the sound is playing, perhaps weird things would happen
[02:05] <raphink> hehe
[02:05] <LjL> the mooding splash ruleZ by the way
[02:05] <LjL> moodin, whatever
[02:06] <BigKahuna> ok thanks for the lead. I'll have a play around.
[02:06] <raphink> yes :)
[02:06] <raphink> it's packaged for dapper now :)
[02:06] <LjL> BigKahuna: "play" is the right word ;) "play soundfile &" should do :)
[02:06] <LjL> raphink: it's in backports as well
[02:06] <raphink> yes I guess
[02:06] <raphink> :)
[02:06] <raphink> BigKahuna: or artsplay
[02:07] <raphink> if you want to use arts
[02:07] <LjL> but then what if arts is *not* already running yet?
[02:07] <raphink> LjL: then that will start it
[02:07] <LjL> ok
[02:07] <raphink> artsplay starts artsd if it's not started yet
[02:07] <LjL> in that case that would be best i suppose
[02:07] <raphink> shouldn't be a pb imo
[02:07] <raphink> yes
[02:07] <raphink> since kde will start it anyway
[02:08] <BigKahuna> Actually, on a similar topic, I've noticed that there is a bit of a lag with some audio system notifications.
[02:08] <djk_> does anyone know of a program for disjunctive normal form and conjunctive normal form? 
[02:09] <BigKahuna> anything that can be done to speed things up?
[02:09] <raphink> as I don't understand what you mean, I guess I don't know programs for that ;)
[02:09] <BigKahuna> sorry If that doesn't make any sense.
[02:09] <brosio> azureus isn't in repository ? :|
[02:09] <djk_> raphink: it's something in boolean algebra, pretty useful.
[02:09] <djk_> brosio: nope
[02:09] <djk_> !azureus
[02:09] <ubotu> it has been said that azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[02:10] <drumline> djk: what's your 'df -m' for your ubuntu partition?
[02:10] <grozniy> where to get java-package
[02:10] <djk_> raphink: but i'm having a few probs with it so a prog with examples and solution would be helpful. 
[02:10] <musashiden> can i get a little help here? ;_;
[02:10] <musashiden> i just finished upgrading from hoary to breezy. and when i rebooted my pc, X wont start up
[02:11] <raphink> ok djk_ 
[02:11] <djk_> drumline: uhm, why?
[02:11] <musashiden> it wont even start the command line, it just frozen in the boot up part :s
[02:11] <musashiden> the last thing it says is "checking battery state....."
[02:11] <drumline> djk: I need to partition my laptop and I need to know a good amount to give to ubuntu... 
[02:11] <raphink> musashiden: did you try the failsafe mode?
[02:11] <musashiden> raphink: um, mind explaining me how?
[02:11] <djk_> raphink: unless you study computer science you really don't need it i think ;)
[02:11] <drumline> djk: just looking to get samples from other people
[02:11] <raphink> musashiden: I guess you have a grub screen at boot, right?
[02:12] <musashiden> mhm
[02:12] <raphink> djk_: I didn't study it, but not that far I guess ;)
[02:12] <owner989> musashiden did you run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:12] <owner989> ?
[02:12] <musashiden> owner989: yes, like 10 times
[02:12] <owner989> try selecting VESA driver
[02:12] <owner989> it will work
[02:12] <djk_> drumline: http://pastebin.com/447840
[02:12] <raphink> musashiden: I thought you coudln't get a console even...
[02:12] <musashiden> owner989: tried it, same deal
[02:12] <musashiden> raphink: iam using putty from my laptop
[02:13] <djk_> drumline: still curious why you picked me out of the 145 options you had..
[02:13] <raphink> hmmm
[02:13] <raphink> musashiden: so ssh server starts though
[02:13] <LjL> djk_: guess what, i *do* study computer science, and i have no idea what the hell you're talking about :)
[02:13] <musashiden> raphink: i suppose
[02:13] <drumline> djk: you spoke last.  :)   Thanks though, that does help a lot!   looks like I probably wont need much beyond 6 gigs for the OS and I can keep any data on the FAT32 part.
[02:14] <djk_> LjL: well, do you study practical CS?
[02:14] <raphink> musashiden: do you have any previous or more recent kernel you could try ?
[02:14] <djk_> drumline: sure :)
[02:14] <LjL> djk_: i'm not sure what you mean "practical"... anyway, i took a course called "Formal languages and automata", but please don't ask me to remember stuff from it
[02:14] <musashiden> raphink: not really, i just upgraded from hoary to breezy
[02:14] <raphink> musashiden: you could try to use another kernel I guess
[02:14] <raphink> see if that works
[02:15] <raphink> what kernel do you use as of now?
[02:15] <djk_> LjL: automata having anything to do with turingmachines and non-/deterministic automats?
[02:15] <musashiden> raphink: the latest one that comes with breezy i guess
[02:15] <djk_> LjL: formal languages.. had haskell? ;)
[02:15] <raphink> musashiden: uname -a 
[02:15] <LjL> djk_: what did i just tell you? ;-) yeah, i guess so...
[02:16] <kkathman> hey there raphink :)
[02:16] <raphink> hi kkathman 
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[02:16] <djk_> LjL: the boolean crap ^^ i had in my first semester informatics and now in my 3rd again in technical informatics
[02:16] <musashiden> raphink: i get this: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/447799
[02:16] <LjL> djk_: no. we basically studied what a "language" (set of symbols, etc) was, and how it could be parsed -- and there comes the "automata" part
[02:16] <crimsun> (/offtopic: personally hugs98 is a great teaching tool for applicative languages. I use it for my undergraduate juniors.)
[02:16] <raphink> musashiden: how about uname -a ?
[02:16] <musashiden> Linux ubuntu 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Fri Nov 18 11:51:02 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:17] <raphink> ok
[02:17] <djk_> crimsun: we used ghc
[02:18] <crimsun> ghc is good, too. I generally start them off with something a bit less intimidating.
[02:18] <raphink> musashiden: and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't help?
[02:18] <musashiden> raphink: nope :[
[02:18] <raphink> musashiden: do you have the ATI driver or NVIDIA installed?
[02:19] <djk_> crimsun: i guess our mentor should have done that too.. first time he just coded 90 mins in haskell..various ways of implementing fibonacci, no explanation whatsoever, just look at me, i'm great.
[02:20] <musashiden> raphink: nvidia
[02:20] <raphink> musashiden: try to use a generic driver instead of the nvidia one
[02:20] <raphink> or even to uninstall the nvidia driver
[02:20] <musashiden> :/
[02:21] <musashiden> ok
[02:21] <musashiden> trying
[02:22] <musashiden> i knew upgrading from hoary to breezy was a bad idea x.x
[02:23] <raphink> it's not a bad idea 
[02:23] <musashiden> i've heard a lot of people having problems after doing so
[02:23] <raphink> but it might just require a bit of work ;)
[02:23] <raphink> just as from breezy to dapper ;)
[02:23] <kkathman> its usually very easy..but you do have to follow the instructions very carefully and do all the pre-release things
[02:24] <djk_> crimsun: you wouldn't happen to know a program for discjunctive/conjunctive normal forms would you?
[02:24] <musashiden> all i did was put the deb lines in the source.list and do apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:25] <kkathman> but you DID forget to remove the cdrom line
[02:25] <musashiden> .....yes..
[02:25] <kkathman> thats always very standard in any upgrade...otherwise it tries to do the install from the cdrom :)
[02:25] <musashiden> maybe i should reinstall everything?
[02:25] <kkathman> I'd back up my files and install breezy clean at this point
[02:26] <raphink> yes
[02:26] <raphink> or just keep /home
[02:26] <grozniy> djk_: i still cant see java-package, is there any other repository ?
[02:26] <raphink> and reinstall /
[02:26] <raphink> with a fresh breezy
[02:26] <djk_> !javadeb
[02:26] <ubotu> rumour has it, javadeb is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[02:26] <musashiden> yay, it worked!
[02:26] <raphink> what did work musashiden ?
[02:26] <musashiden> after i unistalled the nvidia drivers
[02:26] <djk_> grozniy: did you sudo apt-get update after adding the line?
[02:26] <neil_dugan> newbie here I was wondering if there is a way to setup a persistant home directory with the livecd?
[02:26] <raphink> hehe
[02:26] <musashiden> Xorg opens up
[02:26] <raphink> :)
[02:26] <musashiden> should i try to install it again?
[02:26] <raphink> :)
[02:26] <grozniy> djk_: yes i did
[02:27] <raphink> you can try 
[02:27] <raphink> ;)
[02:27] <djk_> grozniy: then you should find sun-j2re or sun-j2sdk
[02:27] <musashiden> ok, thank you for all the help, really appreciate it :)
[02:27] <raphink> shoudl work 
[02:27] <raphink> you're welcome
[02:29] <grozniy> djk_: thanks, man, i see sun-j2 packages, but is there the java-package ?
[02:30] <djk_> grozniy: that are the java-packages.. the one with "re" is just the runtime environment,, the "sdk" is the standard developers kit
[02:30] <djk_> grozniy: so unless you code in java, the re will be the correct choice.
[02:30] <grozniy> djk_: ok thanks
[02:31] <djk_> grozniy: after installing you may have to  sudo update-alternatives --config java
[02:32] <neil_dugan> With Kubuntu LiveCD is there an easy way to mount the computers HD
[02:33] <djk_> LjL: the site is back up here, how's j00r int3rn3t doing :p
[02:33] <LjL> no, still down for me :)
[02:34] <musashiden> damnit
[02:34] <LjL> by the way, the site resolves to 216.32.65.122 for me, does it resolve the same for yuo?
[02:34] <musashiden> same problem appeared x_x
[02:34] <raphink> bed time ;)
[02:34] <raphink> gn8
[02:34] <musashiden> night raphink :/
[02:35] <musashiden> i think the nvidia drivers are bugged in hoary
[02:35] <kkathman> dont think so musashiden
[02:36] <musashiden> breezy*
[02:36] <kkathman> they were just fine on three machines here
[02:36] <kkathman> on both breezy and hoary
[02:36] <djk_> LjL: where do you see 216.32.65.122 ?
[02:36] <LjL> djk_: i ran an "nslookup www.linuxforums.org", not sure if nslookup is installed by default tho
[02:37] <djk_> neil_dugan: it should be done just like with any other live-cd, i think you have to make a dir and then chroot and mount it..but don't remember it completely.
[02:38] <djk_> LjL: uhm. okay.
[02:38] <djk_> LjL: i thought so.
[02:39] <LjL> perhaps install "host" if you want to install a NS resolver, as i think "nslookup" is now deprecated in favor of it
[02:39] <djk_> LjL: and http://pastebin.com/447865 so, no
[02:40] <neil_dugan> djk_: To setup a persistant home on most LiveCDs I have tried there has been a menu to setup, and most do it diferent ways.
[02:41] <LjL> djk: for me, that IP results in a page saying "there is no web site configured at this address". the misteries!
[02:41] <LjL> djk_: i suppose many sites really have IP addresses that are different depending on the country you're calling them from
[02:42] <djk_> LjL: try it with a proxy then :)
[02:42] <djk_> LjL: preferably a german one...
[02:42] <boga> how do I successfully run kmail from Kontact? I am missing the `libkmailpart.la' lib, the system says.
[02:42] <LjL> boga: can you run it stand-alone?
[02:43] <LjL> djk_: don't have one handy... i'll just wait
[02:43] <djk_> neil_dugan: it's been a long time since i've done that and i did it in cli, so i guess you might want to google/check the forum/ask in #ubuntu/wait till someone knows :)
[02:43] <djk_> crap.
[02:44] <musashiden> hmmm
[02:44] <musashiden> how can i reinstall every upgrade package from breezy?
[02:44] <neil_dugan> djk_: ok, On another topic, I have open the "System->Storage Media" menu item, I thought there was meant to be a way to access the HD partitions here.
[02:45] <musashiden> like, reinstall every package that is installed?
[02:45] <djk_> LjL: wait :o http://www.publicproxyservers.com/page2.html there's a german one on there, or just g proxy in opera ;)
[02:46] <djk_> neil_dugan: i am not sure how ubuntu handles things in their live-cds...i have yet to use one of them.
[02:47] <neil_dugan> djk_: ok.
[02:48] <djk_> neil_dugan: you could ask in #ubuntu ,perhaps someone might be able to help you :)
[02:48] <neil_dugan> djk_: I will try that now.
[02:54] <musashiden> maybe i should use the nvidia legacy drivers
[03:01] <chaoticgeek> arg! I cant connect to dalnet
[03:02] <chaoticgeek> I've even tried swiching from konversation to xchat
[03:33] <sophie_> hello all did a fresh breezy install and have a question
[03:33] <sophie_> where the f&^* is the side bar in konqueror
[03:34] <sophie_> please ive been searching for hours
[03:34] <amran> sophie: what sidebar?
[03:35] <amran> do you mean the 'start' menu?
[03:35] <sophie_> amran: navigation panel
[03:35] <amran> still don't understand - is there a windows equivalent you can use?
[03:36] <sophie_> nope sidebar in kinqueror default setting is a very simple konqueor wuth very few buttons
[03:36] <sophie_> history panel
[03:36] <amran> you're looking for the history sidebar in konqueror?
[03:37] <sophie_> amran: yep
[03:38] <m1ke> hi...fix time kubuntu'r, long time debian'r...having issues' with mp3s
[03:39] <m1ke> kubuntu site instructions didnt work
[03:39] <m1ke> googling now, but can someone help out?
[03:39] <sophie_> cheryl just did a sex change lol
[03:40] <m1ke> got tired of playing with my own boobs
[03:40] <amran> sophie: why don't you use firefox?
[03:40] <amran> a Ctrk-H will bring up history
[03:40] <djk_> m1ke: you won't get any other boobs as man though...
[03:41] <sophie_> amran: tks works great now to save it by default
[03:41] <amran> ?
[03:42] <m1ke> any help on my mp3 problem?  google keeps pointing to gstreamer-0.8.madxxxxx via apt...but it doesn't exist
[03:43] <djk_> m1ke: uhm..gstreamer0.8-lame perhaps? and did you update your sources.list yet;)
[03:43] <m1ke> reading that now...need to add "Universal" repositories?
[03:43] <m1ke> do those point to true debian repo's?
[03:44] <djk_> no, these point to universe ubuntu repos..
[03:44] <m1ke> gotcha
[03:44] <djk_> !sources
[03:44] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:44] <djk_> m1ke: go get yourself a sources.list from the source-o-matic.
[03:45] <djk_> seriously, long time debianer and you didn't think of checking the repos? ;)
[03:45] <m1ke> i did add "somethign" to my sources but it didn't resolve.
[03:45] <m1ke> which is stable hoary or breezy?
[03:46] <djk_> both? it depends on what you have installed...
[03:46] <m1ke> working on friends pc...it was 98 when i got it...giving at back as Kubuntu...think they'll notice?
[03:46] <amran> m1ke: I'd think they would :-)
[03:47] <djk_> m1ke: naa ;)
[03:47] <m1ke> but i am using the "Redmond" theme
[03:47] <m1ke> same boring green background
[03:47] <djk_> m1ke: it's got pretty colours just like win98 :p
[03:48] <djk_> just tell him you madhaXX0red 98 to actually do something..:)
[03:52] <m1ke> hey...i've got sound!
[03:53] <djk_> goodie
[03:53] <fatejudger> when is Flight 2 coming out?
[03:54] <davedorm> hi all
[03:54] <m1ke> hi
[03:54] <davedorm> I have a problem, KDE will not start on my Kubuntu
[03:55] <m1ke> so its just ubuntu, not Kubuntu!
[03:55] <davedorm> I get a weird error that it cannot write to /home/dave/.ICEathority or some such then it dies and goes back to KDM
[03:56] <davedorm> but I can launch Fluxbox just fine
[03:57] <davedorm> if I try to launch Konq from in fluxbox, it also errors out
[03:57] <davedorm> error with DCOP server
[03:58] <davedorm> any ideas?
[03:59] <davedorm> permissions on /home/dave are 755
[03:59] <davedorm> so it should not be a permissions issue
[04:10] <davedorm> got it
[04:10] <davedorm> deleted .ICEAuthority and rebooted
[04:21] <[Relic] > is there anyway of removing a lib without it removing the other libs it wants to remove?
[04:22] <dawynn> Anyone have experience with sound recording in Linux?
[04:41] <RabidGoblin> hello
[04:41] <kkathman> hi
[04:42] <RabidGoblin> can anyone here help me install the nvidia driver?
[04:42] <lwizardl> RabidGoblin: i can
[04:42] <kkathman> !nvidia
[04:42] <ubotu> [nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[04:43] <kkathman> have a look at that link
[04:43] <RabidGoblin> k thanks
[04:43] <kkathman> thats the official how to
[04:43] <kkathman> np
[04:58] <RabidGoblin> alright thanks its all set up now
[04:59] <[Relic] > wonder if I should downgrade to the 5.04 version since that didn't seem to write to the HD every 5 seconds with some unknown process somewhere that can't seem to be found
[05:00] <[Relic] > don't seem to be able to remove the sensors package without getting rid of the base stuff either
[05:02] <[Relic] > tried top, seqaching the HD for recent files, etc. still no reason for the HD to be running every 5 seconds
[05:09] <PokerFacePenguin> PokerFacePenguin </dev/null
[05:10] <kkathman> evenin PokerFacePenguin :)
[05:10] <PokerFacePenguin> hey kkathman..i was just about to step out for a sec
[05:10] <PokerFacePenguin> be back in a bit
[05:10] <PokerFacePenguin> good to see u again
[05:11] <kkathman> okies
[05:11] <kkathman> ditto here
[05:14] <dawynn> How can I check what services are active on my system?  (e.g arts, esd, etc.)
[05:27] <[Relic] > are any problems with removing postfix?
[05:32] <freeflying> [Relic] :  somepackages depend on it 
[05:33] <[Relic] > is there a way of turning it off?
[05:35] <freeflying> [Relic] : you can disable it 
[05:36] <[Relic] > how?  :)
[05:36] <lwizardl> hi
[05:36] <[Relic] > Hello :)
[05:36] <freeflying> sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/postfix 
[05:36] <lwizardl> can someone help me with getting a few things working correctly
[05:57] <[Relic] > that wasn't the problem :(
[05:59] <[Relic] > what is kio?
[06:08] <BigKahuna> Has anybody tried watching Google Videos on Kubuntu? The video and and audio are always out of sync, not sure i the problem is with my box or google or whatever...
[06:09] <BigKahuna> here is link to an ubuntu video if anybody wants to test it out: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5253052326994067125&q=ubuntu
[06:12] <poningru> BigKahuna: its the crappy flash for linux
[06:12] <poningru> and sound/vid sync problem is well known
[06:13] <BigKahuna> poningru, So i've got to live with it?
[06:13] <poningru> yeah unfortunately
[06:13] <poningru> call up adobe and tell them flash is broken
[06:13] <BigKahuna> where does flash support for linux come from? Macromedia?
[06:13] <poningru> tell them to open it up
[06:13] <poningru> yes
[06:14] <poningru> although there are attempts at free implementations
[06:14] <poningru> but they are not mature enough
[06:14] <poningru> but I would tell you not to use flash at all
[06:15] <[Relic] > think I narrowed the offedner down to kio but not sure what to do with it
[06:15] <BigKahuna> poningru, Ok thanks for the info.
[06:17] <BigKahuna> Anybody have a hauppauge TV tuner card working with Kubuntu? Not interested in MythTv just want to watch TV at my desk. One of the issue Im facing is that TvTime doesnt support hauppauge hardware, although I heard mplayer/Kaffeine could be used instead....?
[06:18] <poningru> BigKahuna: I am pretty sure you can use vlc
[06:19] <BigKahuna> ok I'll take a look. what about the actual hauppauge card installation? Any experience with that? I'm having issues with the firmware.
[06:28] <lwizardl> whats a good ssh ftp client?
[06:33] <nalioth> lwizardl: gftp
[06:34] <lwizardl> for kde
[06:34] <lwizardl> ?
[06:39] <orangey> hey all!
[06:40] <freeflying> lwizardl: lftp
[06:40] <orangey> I'm trying to get my system to play DVDs with xine (shouldn't be THAT hard).. I installed libdvdcss and libdvdnav and libdvdread.. but xine still won't read.. any ideas?
[06:42] <lwizardl> i'm just trying to get my kubuntu os to have the features of my old xp setup
[06:43] <kkathman> ewww
[06:43] <seth_k> like the crashing feature?
[06:43] <kkathman> you want kubuntu to look and act like windows ???
[06:43] <kkathman> lol seth_k :)
[06:44] <kkathman> you MUST be kidding
[06:44] <BigKahuna> orangey, liddvdread3?
[06:44] <lwizardl> kkathman: not like that
[06:44] <BigKahuna> sorry libdvdread3
[06:44] <kkathman> gosh I hope so :)
[06:44] <kkathman> well Im NOT kidding :)
[06:44] <lwizardl> i'm trying to fully stay away from windows 
[06:44] <kkathman> I would NEVER want kubuntu to look, act or vaguely resemble my windows box :)
[06:45] <crimsun> on april fool's day it would be humorous after the initial shock wore off
[06:45] <lwizardl> but I want to use linux apps that respond and have the same features of my windows apps
[06:46] <lwizardl> like for sftp i used to use filezilla
[06:46] <lwizardl> but i don't see a linux version of that
[06:46] <orangey> BigKahuna: theoretically, yeah
[06:47] <kkathman> lwizardl: for ftp?
[06:47] <BigKahuna> orangey, On the ubuntu wiki it specifies you need libdvdread3, nothing else. Check it out: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:47] <lwizardl> kkathman: ftp and secure ftp using ssh
[06:48] <_pat> Hello everyone
[06:48] <kkathman> well for regular ftp you can simply use Konqueror
[06:48] <_pat> a quick ?
[06:48] <lwizardl> kkathman: i'm not a fan of konqueror can't figure out how to clear the history in it
[06:49] <kkathman> lwizardl: what are you using for a file manager then?
[06:49] <_pat> When I try to view  webcam in kopete(3.5) it says I need jasper, adept says it's already installed.  Are there any work arounds for this?
[06:49] <BigKahuna> _pat, Did you install the driver for your web cam?
[06:49] <lwizardl> kkathman: only thing that their is, konqueror but I still don't like the app
[06:50] <_pat> I have to have a driver to view other cams?
[06:50] <kkathman> lwizardl: uhm  all you have to do to clear history is right click in the addie bar and click "clear history" hehe
[06:50] <lwizardl> ?
[06:50] <BigKahuna> oh, you want to see other people web cams?
[06:50] <_pat> yea
[06:50] <_pat> it still says I need jasper
[06:50] <kkathman> lwizardl: read my statement carefully and try it :)
[06:50] <BigKahuna> can't help you then, sorry.
[06:51] <lwizardl> ok well that makes it easier to like now
[06:51] <kkathman> and konqueror is a terrific file manager
[06:51] <yonkeltron> any idea when the new firefox will hit the mirrors?
[06:51] <_pat> yea, if only I knew where it wanted it to be I could link it
[06:51] <crimsun> yonkeltron: not until it's finished in Dapper
[06:51] <lwizardl> ok i got gftp working  for my sftp
[06:51] <kkathman> lwizardl: you can try gftp also, it has secure ftp and ssh
[06:52] <lwizardl> thats what i'm using
[06:52] <orangey> BigKahuna: no workie..
[06:52] <poningru> so who was trying to play dvd?
[06:52] <lwizardl> poningru: i tried that today and it didn't work but I'm not that guy
[06:54] <_ari> hey guys, I just got a paper back from a professor with digital comments, how can I view them in OO, because they don't seem to show?
[06:54] <poningru> _ari: what do you mean digital comments?
[06:54] <poningru> like in a .doc?
[06:54] <_ari> yes
[06:55] <poningru> but how did he add the comments?
[06:55] <_ari> through Word
[06:55] <_ari> there is a commenting feature
[06:55] <poningru> oh ic
[06:55] <poningru> yeah dont think thats supported through OO
[06:55] <poningru> not sure
[06:55] <poningru> check google
[06:57] <_ari> I'm not coming up with anything :(
[06:57] <_ari> what do you recommend?
[06:58] <_ari> I guess I'll try their IRC channel
[06:58] <_ari> thanks guys
[07:00] <yonkeltron> crimsun: dapper?
[07:01] <crimsun> yonkeltron: the current devel branch of Ubuntu
[07:03] <yonkeltron> crimsun: so will it make it into breezy?
[07:04] <crimsun> yonkeltron: no. breezy-backports, I presume so
[07:05] <yonkeltron> crimsun: sigh.
[07:05] <crimsun> nothing new goes into a released distro.
[07:10] <lwizardl> ok I made a list of programs I used on xp. can someone help me with linux veriants
[07:10] <kkathman> lwizardl: we'll try
[07:11] <quanium> is this a support channel?
[07:11] <kkathman> quanium: yes
[07:11] <quanium> great, I'm having a major problem with Kubuntu
[07:11] <lwizardl> Filezilla/flashfxp seem to be gFTP works
[07:11] <lwizardl> nero = k3b ?
[07:11] <quanium> seems that whenever I move any windows, KDE locks up
[07:11] <kkathman> lwizardl:  yes
[07:11] <kkathman> quanium: system specs?
[07:12] <quanium> 3200+ athalon xp barton, 1gb ram, asus a78nx rev2.0, evga 6600GT, soundblasterlive 5.1
[07:12] <lwizardl> DVD Decryter (dvd ripper)
[07:12] <quanium> *a7n8x
[07:13] <kkathman> hmm ok not a memory issue then
[07:13] <quanium> nope
[07:13] <quanium> perhaps display drivers, that was my initial thought
[07:13] <kkathman> when you say "move windows" you mean grabbing and moving them around the screen?
[07:13] <quanium> yeah
[07:13] <quanium> with the mouse
[07:13] <quanium> if i dont move anything, nothing bad happens
[07:13] <kkathman> what display card?
[07:14] <jfreeman> anyone with experience setting up mythtv?
[07:14] <quanium> nvidia, 6600gt made by evga
[07:14] <owner989> which kernel are you using  quanium
[07:14] <lwizardl> jfreeman: i know of a mythtv support channel
[07:14] <quanium> im not sure, i beleive it installed a k7 kernel, least thats what i saw. It actually downloaded it
[07:14] <kkathman> quanium: ok you are using the standard nvidia drivers ?
[07:14] <lwizardl> but i won't spam the channel name in here
[07:14] <kkathman> k7?
[07:14] <quanium> yeah, the end of the kernel it downloaded had -k7
[07:15] <jfreeman> no worries, I'll head over to mythtv.org
[07:15] <jfreeman> :)
[07:15] <kkathman> quanium: probably you should have installed the x86
[07:15] <owner989> quanium goto help in xhcat
[07:15] <quanium> it didnt give me a choice to
[07:15] <lwizardl> i can pm you it
[07:15] <owner989> xchat
[07:15] <owner989> and click about
[07:15] <owner989> it will tell you which kernel you are using
[07:15] <quanium> about kde?
[07:16] <owner989> are you using xchat
[07:16] <quanium> just give me a terminal command to dump the kernel, i have a terminal open
[07:16] <quanium> no
[07:16] <quanium> seems xchat wasnt included with this
[07:16] <lwizardl> kkathman: what about a program to rip dvds to hdd
[07:16] <owner989> type uname -r
[07:17] <owner989> in terminal
[07:17] <quanium> 2.6.12-9-k7
[07:17] <owner989> maybe updating to 2.6.12-10-k7 will help
[07:17] <quanium> how would i do that?
[07:17] <owner989> you can use synaptic
[07:17] <owner989> thats the easiest way
[07:18] <quanium> where am i going to find that?
[07:18] <lwizardl> and why doesn't kubuntu save my root password when i tell it to
[07:18] <owner989> actually nm
[07:18] <owner989> i dont think kubuntu comes with synaptic
[07:19] <owner989> only kpackage
[07:19] <kkathman> owner989:  yes it does
[07:19] <owner989> ok, then you can use it
[07:19] <kkathman> kubuntu has synaptic, kynaptic or better...Adept
[07:19] <owner989> can you install kernels  with that kkathman
[07:19] <quanium> adept
[07:19] <owner989> he needs to install the k7 kernel and the restricted modules
[07:19] <quanium> i can find that
[07:19] <kkathman> owner989: well yah...but I'd just use apt-get
[07:20] <kkathman> with that processor I dont know why he's not using x86 tho
[07:20] <owner989> does he have 64bit?
[07:20] <quanium> i would have selected that, but the installer simply installed k7
[07:20] <quanium> no, its a 32 bit barton athalon xp cpu
[07:20] <kkathman> well the chip is 64 bit
[07:21] <quanium> in fact, the installer gave me very few options atall
[07:21] <kkathman> but he's probably using it in 32 bit mode
[07:21] <quanium> no
[07:21] <quanium> its NOT a 64 bit chip
[07:21] <owner989> i agree
[07:21] <quanium> its a 3200+ barton, SOCKET A, 32BIT
[07:21] <owner989> athlon xp is not 64 bit
[07:21] <kkathman> ahh thats right
[07:21] <kkathman> I didnt see the socket a
[07:21] <quanium> 64 bit bus width to the ram, only
[07:22] <quanium> should i just update everything i can?
[07:22] <owner989> you can do
[07:22] <owner989> read this post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85917
[07:22] <owner989> it will help
[07:22] <kkathman> I may upgrad to that chip or the one above it in fact...Im running a sempron now
[07:23] <quanium> alright, im jsut letting adept update everything it wants to
[07:23] <quanium> i highly recommend it, the 3200+ bartons are smoking fast
[07:23] <owner989> although i doubt it will update the kernel
[07:23] <kkathman> no it wont
[07:23] <quanium> it wanted to, said it was going to, and is downloading it
[07:23] <kkathman> but I still dont know why the k7?
[07:23] <quanium> nor do i
[07:24] <quanium> it wanted to update kde as well
[07:24] <kkathman> usually you have to d/l the kernal images and do a dist-upgrade
[07:24] <owner989> athlon xp is k7 i think
[07:24] <kkathman> no
[07:24] <quanium> sort of odd, i thought 5.10 came with 3.5 kde, but i have 3.4.3
[07:24] <kkathman> xp is x86 to my knowledge 
[07:24] <quanium> yeah
[07:24] <kkathman> I used to have one
[07:24] <quanium> why did you get a sempron then?
[07:24] <kkathman> new box
[07:24] <quanium> oh
[07:25] <quanium> well, i highly recommend the 3200+ barton cpus, they are extremely fast
[07:25] <quanium> best 32bit cpu money can buy
[07:25] <kkathman> i want to upgrade the processor, and perhaps my video board
[07:25] <kkathman> my display is slow, the processor is..yanno ... ok
[07:25] <quanium> 6600GT is one of the best values on the market, 260~ish
[07:26] <kkathman> but I was just trying to get a linux box...was saving on budget
[07:26] <kkathman> I got the whole computer for around $350
[07:26] <quanium> ah
[07:26] <kkathman> case, CD/DVD, 1gb memory, mobo, chip, fan
[07:26] <quanium> 6600GT's will run anything on the market right now
[07:26] <kkathman> 100gb HDD
[07:26] <quanium> mine performs very well
[07:26] <lwizardl> what is universe in kubuntu?
[07:27] <owner989> its update sources 
[07:27] <kkathman> my mobo will run anything that AMD makes
[07:27] <kkathman> thats socket a that is
[07:27] <owner989> kkathman which kernel do you use?
[07:27] <owner989> im using 686smp
[07:27] <kkathman> 2.6.12-10
[07:27] <owner989> but i have a p3ht
[07:27] <kkathman> 386
[07:28] <lwizardl> ok so how do i enable universe?
[07:28] <kkathman> sources.ist
[07:28] <kkathman> list
[07:29] <owner989> athlons can use the 686 kernel
[07:29] <owner989> and the k7
[07:29] <lwizardl> kkathman: ok i have the file open in vim now what?
[07:29] <quanium> hmm
[07:30] <quanium> adept seems to have updated the kernel
[07:30] <quanium> but im sure a reboot would be needed to check
[07:31] <quanium> correct?
[07:31] <kkathman> lwizardl: doyou have a line in there that has universe included?
[07:32] <lwizardl> i removed the # before the lines
[07:32] <lwizardl> with links to universe
[07:32] <kkathman> that should do it...save the file, then do a sudo apt-get update
[07:33] <lwizardl> i had to do :w!q
[07:33] <kkathman> im a KDE person so I always use kdesu kate
[07:33] <lwizardl> but it won't save
[07:33] <kkathman> ahhh
[07:33] <kkathman> you didnt edit it as root
[07:34] <kkathman> lwizardl: you are under kubuntu?
[07:34] <lwizardl> yeah
[07:34] <lwizardl> i just used sudo
[07:34] <kkathman> well ok if that works :)
[07:35] <lwizardl> yeah i uncommente universe and multiverse
[07:35] <kkathman> ok just make sure it gets saved and do the sudo apt-get update
[07:36] <lwizardl> ok did that
[07:37] <kkathman> good yer all set for whatever you needed universe for
[07:39] <lwizardl> nope wine is still erroring
[07:39] <kkathman> what do you want wine for?
[07:40] <lwizardl> dvd decryter & dvd shrink
[07:40] <owner989> i hope quanium installed the restricted modules
[07:40] <owner989> matching his kernel version
[07:40] <owner989> otherwise his video card might not work correctly
[07:40] <kkathman> well for the best wine reference site try http://frankscorner.org/
[07:40] <owner989> is that your website kkathman
[07:41] <kkathman> no no
[07:42] <kkathman> I cant help you with dvd stuff really
[07:42] <IULIUS23ro> hello everybody
[07:42] <kkathman> howdy
[07:42] <quanium> for future reference, adept DID upgrade the kernel
[07:42] <quanium> and everything seems to be fine now
[07:42] <kkathman> okie dokie
[07:42] <kkathman> excellent
[07:43] <quanium> i just hope opengl works
[07:43] <quanium> any way to test?
[07:43] <kkathman> hmm Im not sure 
[07:43] <kkathman> I dont think I ever installed that on my box actually
[07:43] <kkathman> howdy Kamping_Kaiser :)
[07:43] <owner989> quanium did you install the restricted modules
[07:43] <owner989> matching your kernel version
[07:43] <quanium> im quite sure it did
[07:44] <owner989> because thats important for video cards
[07:44] <quanium> it requested my root password
[07:44] <IULIUS23ro> im trying to reinstall mplayer but there is  a problem regarding some libs "  Depends: libfribidi0 (>=0.10.5-4) but 0.10.5-2 is to be installed" where can i find a repository with the new version of the libs??
[07:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> hallo here 
[07:45] <kkathman> IULIUS23ro: do an apt-cache search on that library
[07:45] <owner989> it sounds like you already have the newer libs
[07:45] <IULIUS23ro> but i cant install mplayer :((
[07:45] <IULIUS23ro> are 5 libs 
[07:45] <IULIUS23ro> like in that situation
[07:45] <owner989> try easy kubuntu
[07:46] <owner989> http://olwin.free.fr/serendipity/index.php?/archives/1-Easy-Kubuntu-0.4-beta.html
[07:46] <kkathman> so you tried to do an apt-get install on mplayer and you got that error?
[07:46] <lwizardl> whats the main install for gtk called ?
[07:46] <IULIUS23ro> error
[07:46] <IULIUS23ro> on apt-get install
[07:46] <kkathman> lwizardl: ubuntu-desktop
[07:47] <IULIUS23ro> E: Package mplayer has no installation candidate
[07:47] <kkathman> !info mplayer
[07:47] <IULIUS23ro> and same libs problems
[07:47] <kkathman> must be called something else
[07:47] <IULIUS23ro> libfribidi0 (>= 0.10.5-4) but 0.10.5-2 is to be installed
[07:48] <IULIUS23ro> libgcc1 (>= 1:4.0.2) but 1:4.0.1-4ubuntu9 is to be installed
[07:48] <IULIUS23ro> libjack0.100.0-0 (>= 0.100.0) but it is not installable
[07:48] <IULIUS23ro> libstdc++6 (>= 4.0.2-3) but 4.0.1-4ubuntu9 is to be installed
[07:48] <lwizardl> kkathman:  beacuse i'm getting errors on things needing gtk
[07:48] <owner989> it sounds like that version isnt for ubuntu/kubuntu
[07:49] <IULIUS23ro> so maybe i need to find a repository with these new versions of the libs
[07:49] <kkathman> lwizardl:  well that happens when you try to run a gnome application with a kubuntu install
[07:49] <owner989> iulius23ro, use easy kubuntu
[07:49] <owner989> it installs mplayer for you and updates the respitory
[07:49] <lwizardl> so i should add gnome to my system to fix issue?
[07:50] <kkathman> lwizardl: what programs are balking at it?
[07:50] <IULIUS23ro> oki doki
[07:50] <lwizardl> wine
[07:50] <kkathman> wine?
[07:50] <lwizardl> yeah
[07:50] <lwizardl>  sudo apt-get install wine winesetuptk
[07:50] <kkathman> wine shouldnt need anything gtk to my knowledge
[07:51] <IULIUS23ro> have u tested the new mozilla 1.5 ?
[07:51] <owner989> http://olwin.free.fr/serendipity/exit.php?url_id=2&entry_id=1
[07:51] <owner989> hmm link is broken
[07:51] <owner989> lol
[07:51] <kkathman> IULIUS23ro: yes on the firefox 1.5
[07:52] <PokerFacePenguin> kkathman: hey kath
[07:52] <IULIUS23ro> i have beta should i upgrade it?
[07:52] <kkathman> howdy there PokerFacePenguin :)
[07:52] <robotgeek> owner989: that's horay only
[07:52] <robotgeek> hoary
[07:53] <PokerFacePenguin> kkathman: was just takin a preview of the slax usb version...pretty nice...wish kubuntu had a little something like that
[07:53] <owner989> yeah i noticed
[07:53] <owner989> but easy ubuntu works under breezy
[07:53] <kkathman> PokerFacePenguin: got a link?
[07:53] <PokerFacePenguin> slax.org will give you a look
[07:53] <kkathman> k
[07:54] <kkathman> PokerFacePenguin: nice..that would be kinda kewl :)
[07:55] <PokerFacePenguin> kkathman: if only someone would write the modules so it could run compressed like that
[07:55] <PokerFacePenguin> kkathman: i guess package  them is a better term
[07:55] <PokerFacePenguin> i love my kubuntu tho
[07:56] <PokerFacePenguin> just want something nice for my usb pen
[07:58] <IULIUS23ro> http://olwin.free.fr/serendipity/    -for easyKubuntu
[07:58] <kkathman> man I popped a live cd of ubuntu in on my company IBM thinkpad...wow it came up like perfect
[07:58] <kkathman> was able to surf, IRC chat, etc
[08:00] <felipito> in my head I can't understand what the hell the people of adobe/macromedia, etc, etc, are waiting to come to linux and forget about the crap of windows. WHAT!?!?!
[08:02] <felipito> kkathman: yep man, you can do almost anything with a live cd. Even mount your linux and windows partitions and view those files and work with them and save it and write on linux partitions and fat32 partitions, etc, etc..
[08:04] <owner989> iulius23ro thats the new version
[08:04] <owner989> that should work under breezy
[08:05] <IULIUS23ro> 1.5 final
[08:05] <IULIUS23ro> aaa
[08:05] <IULIUS23ro> sorry
[08:05] <IULIUS23ro> easykubuntu -0.6.1
[08:08] <IULIUS23ro> what do i have to do to remove my firefox1.5rc version and install the final release?
[08:08] <kkathman> where/how did you install it before?
[08:08] <IULIUS23ro> like in ubuntu guide
[08:09] <IULIUS23ro> :D
[08:09] <kkathman> hmm lol I just downloaded it, installed in my home directory and symlinked to /usr/bin
[08:10] <IULIUS23ro> and now i have to remove my old firefox 1.5.rc
[08:10] <IULIUS23ro> ??
[08:10] <nicholaspaul> anyone know how to fix broken packages in synaptic? the menu option doesnt want to work... 
[08:10] <kkathman> that way, to uninstall, just rm -rf that directory
[08:10] <kkathman> and install a new one
[08:10] <IULIUS23ro> and the links made from the shell?
[08:12] <kkathman> yah
[08:13] <quanium> kkathman: ever configure opengl?
[08:13] <kkathman> quanium: nope, sorry
[08:13] <quanium> anyone want to walk me through installing proper video drivers for a 6600GT on kubuntu 5.10
[08:14] <kkathman> quanium: if its nvidia...just follow the standard stuff
[08:14] <kkathman> !nvidia
[08:14] <ubotu> from memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[08:15] <quanium> thanks
[08:15] <Delvien> KDE has MAJOR problems with wifi connectivity / settings
[08:15] <Delvien> !checkinstall
[08:15] <ubotu> from memory, checkinstall is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[08:16] <Delvien> configure: error: Unable to find X11 libraries
[08:16] <Delvien> what does this mean lol 
[08:16] <IULIUS23ro> kkathman: how do i symlink firefox to /usr/bin?
[08:17] <kkathman> IULIUS23ro: in my case, since my firefox was installed in my home dir...it was this:   ln -s ~/downloads/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/firefox
[08:17] <IULIUS23ro> oki doki 
[08:17] <IULIUS23ro> 10x
[08:17] <kkathman> but yours may vary based on where your firefox dir is
[08:18] <Delvien> kkathman do you know whqat it means with a ./configure cant find X11 libraries?
[08:19] <kkathman> Delvien: you need to get the xincludes stuff
[08:19] <kkathman> Delvien: xlibs-dev xlis-static-dev x-window-system-dev
[08:19] <kkathman> that second one s/b xlib
[08:20] <kkathman> not xlis
[08:20] <kkathman> get those 3 libs
[08:20] <kkathman> then try your ./configure again
[08:21] <Delvien> had all those kkath
[08:22] <kkathman> Delvien: really???
[08:22] <kkathman> those are the only ones I know
[08:22] <Delvien> yeah trying to install Plugger
[08:22] <kkathman> !xincludes
[08:22] <ubotu> When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev
[08:23] <kkathman> ok I was right...hmm
[08:23] <Delvien> !cant find X11 libraries
[08:23] <ubotu> Delvien: I give up, what is it?
[08:23] <kkathman> !X11
[08:23] <ubotu> Wish i knew, kkathman
[08:23] <kkathman> ubotu what good are you?
[08:23] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, kkathman
[08:23] <Delvien> ubotu is stinky
[08:24] <ubotu> Delvien: Syntax error in line 1
[08:24] <Delvien> ubotu is like stinky
[08:24] <ubotu> Delvien: Are you smoking crack?
[08:24] <Delvien> ubotu yes
[08:24] <ubotu> Yes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thought it, eh, delvien?
[08:24] <Delvien> ubotu your mom
[08:24] <kkathman> lol
[08:24] <ubotu> Delvien: No idea
[08:24] <robotgeek> !botabuse
[08:24] <ubotu> You can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.
[08:24] <Delvien> ubotu what is the meaning of life
[08:24] <ubotu> Delvien: I think you lost me on that one
[08:24] <Delvien> o
[08:24] <kkathman> Delvien:  you sure you got all those ?
[08:24] <Delvien> well !
[08:24] <Delvien> kkathman aye
[08:25] <Delvien> robotgeek youre a prude :P 
[08:25] <Delvien> hehe
[08:25] <robotgeek> Delvien: you may think whatever you want to think :)
[08:25] <Delvien> robotgeek good i live in a free world :)
[08:26] <kkathman> I am sure that there is some obscure x lib you are missing but its hard to know which one
[08:26] <robotgeek> Delvien: i don't appreciate you abusing a half cousin of mine
[08:26] <Delvien> robotgeek i felt ubotu was getting lonely
[08:26] <robotgeek> the conversation was funny tho!
[08:26] <robotgeek> Delvien: you can also /msg ubotu and talk to him privately :)
[08:26] <kkathman> poor ubotu...he needs a fembot I think
[08:27] <owner989> lol kkathma n
[08:27] <femubotu> ubotu hey there handsome
[08:27] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, femubotu
[08:27] <owner989> ubotu hi
[08:27] <ubotu> hi, owner989
[08:28] <quanium> owner989: do you know anything about installing proper opengl enabled nvidia drivers?
[08:28] <Delvien> kkathman have a better method of enabling streaming M$ media player files with opera?
[08:28] <owner989> yes quanium
[08:28] <owner989> you have to have the restricted kernel modules installed
[08:28] <quanium> want to help
[08:29] <quanium> well, ive tried to follow guides, but the programs i have seem to be different
[08:31] <jazwec> could anybody help me with cedega, please?
[08:31] <quanium> should i just attempt to install the old way with the nvidia .run pkg?
[08:32] <owner989> yes
[08:32] <owner989> try running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:33] <quanium> heh, ill boot to text, go root, and use the run package
[08:33] <owner989> you could also try easy kubuntu
[08:33] <owner989> http://olwin.free.fr/serendipity/
[08:33] <owner989> it installs nvidia drivers automatically
[08:34] <quanium> this is in french, i might be canadian, but i cant read french
[08:34] <owner989> yea i know lol
[08:34] <quanium> oh, theres english
[08:34] <owner989> but the program is in english too supposedly
[08:34] <quanium> some
[08:35] <owner989> i used easy ubuntu
[08:35] <owner989> but not easy kubuntu...
[08:35] <owner989> good program
[08:36] <quanium> hmm
[08:37] <quanium> i may just use the run package
[08:37] <quanium> how do i set my default browser?
[08:39] <Delvien> later taters
[08:39] <owner989> in firefox you can go into preferences and make it your default browser
[08:44] <lgp> Hi,all
[08:45] <lgp> can anyone help me? having problem configuring a soundcard
[08:52] <DjDarkman> hy ,I need a dc++ client for linux ,but the original dc++ client is weak ,do you know where can I find one that works
[08:52] <DjDarkman> ?
[08:52] <drumline> Do you folks like Shoreline as a firewall?
[08:58] <owner989> dkdarkman i have linux DC++
[09:01] <quanium> owner989: whats the link to that page about the nvidia drivers again
[09:06] <DjDarkman> owner989 I have it too
[09:06] <DjDarkman> but it doesn`t work well
[09:07] <DjDarkman> I can`t find anything with it
[09:13] <demon71> can anyone help with a sound issue? I have none....
[09:16] <Sneaky_Bastard> hah
[09:16] <Sneaky_Bastard> everyone says that (me too)
[10:14] <mark---> Does anyone know if there is an md5 calculator in Breezy?
[10:14] <mark---> I want to verify an ISO image.
[10:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> mark---: md5sum
[10:14] <mark---> ok
[10:15] <mark---> thanks.
[10:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> np
[10:38] <flosoft> hey @ all
[10:39] <flosoft> how do I constantly enable hdparm -d1 /dev/dvd
[10:39] <flosoft> that it even is like that after a reboot
[10:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> flosoft: /etc/hdparm.conf IIRC
[10:41] <flosoft> Kamping_Kaiser : so it stays for ever?
[10:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> flosoft: i think it will
[10:46] <_pierre> Bonjour
[10:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi
[10:47] <_pierre> Je viens de passer sur KDE 3.5 mais je ne vois pas Superkaramba dans mes menus
[10:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> try Kubuntu-fr
[10:47] <_pierre> sorry
[10:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> English only here :)
[10:47] <_pierre> can I try in english ?
[10:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh, sure.
[10:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> gl
[10:48] <_pierre> I have just upgraded to KDE 3.5
[10:48] <_pierre> but I don't see any Superkaramba in Kmenu
[10:48] <_pierre> is it supposed to be in the Kmenu ?
[10:48] <Tm_T> apt-get install superkaramba
[10:49] <_pierre> I thought it was alreadi included in KDE 3.5 ??
[10:49] <Tm_T> dunno
[10:49] <Tm_T> that's best way to make sure it is
[10:49] <_pierre> ok thxs
[10:50] <Tm_T> np
[10:50] <flosoft> _pierre: ALT+F2  superkaramba
[10:50] <_pierre> wait I'm going to try
[10:51] <Tm_T> flosoft: that doesn't get it to kmenu ;)
[10:51] <_pierre> no it doesn't work
[10:51] <Tm_T> _pierre: it wasn't installed?
[10:51] <_pierre> I guess it is not included in KDE 3.5 then
[10:51] <Tm_T> install then
[10:51] <flosoft> it is
[10:51] <flosoft> I got it
[10:51] <Tm_T> flosoft: I didn't
[10:51] <flosoft> kdesu synaptic
[10:52] <_pierre> I know it's supposed to be in KDE 3.5
[10:52] <flosoft> I got my superkaramba here without a problem
[10:52] <Tm_T> flosoft: I don't even use it
[10:52] <Tm_T> _pierre: asi I said, apt-get install superkaramba
[10:53] <_pierre> I know how to install but I was just wondering why it's not included in KDE3.5 that's all
[10:53] <_pierre> anyway thxs a lot
[10:54] <Tm_T> _pierre: heh, it depends, you can install kde 3.5 without any extra apps
[10:55] <_pierre>     * deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main
[10:55] <_pierre>     * deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main
[10:55] <_pierre> Ah ? that's why then, I installed it from  
[10:55] <_pierre> oups
[10:55] <Tm_T> :p
[10:56] <Tm_T> anyway, back to installin kde4 ->
[10:57] <_pierre> Is it stable ?
[10:58] <Tm_T> _pierre: it's mostly unusable
[10:58] <_pierre> :)
[10:58] <Tm_T> hmm, I might finally dare to say I'm developer ;)
[10:59] <_pierre> I see, me it's the first time I use the IRC
[10:59] <Tm_T> heh
[10:59] <Tm_T> welcome
[10:59] <_pierre> thxs
[10:59] <Tm_T> and enjoy
[11:00] <_pierre> if I send message like that everybody see it ?
[11:01] <_pierre> Ok I have to go. Thank you for your advise, Bye
[11:02] <Emess> how should i know?
[11:02] <Emess> err...nm
[11:20] <cahoot> Hi - is lyx available in kubuntu?
[11:22] <P3L|C4N0> cahoot, yes, in universe
[11:22] <cahoot> P3L|C4N0: thansk
[11:22] <cahoot> err
[11:29] <tapanim> problem with open gl, screen is very light, i have ati
[11:30] <tapanim> can't adjust
[11:32] <Tm_T> "you can, a roo, you can"
[11:39] <knubbe> i cant start XMMS as long as i have kopete runnung. it says the soundcard is busy. is there an easy solution?
[11:40] <poningru> knubbe: make sure you are not using esd
[11:41] <Droneigal> Hello everyone
[11:41] <knubbe> poningru: how do i check that?
[11:42] <Droneigal> uh, anyone know how to reinstall Grub?
[11:42] <poningru> knubbe: umm not sure in kde
[11:43] <knubbe> ok'
[11:43] <poningru> see if there is a multimedia systems selector in your prefs or something
[11:44] <poningru> and look for default sound sink or something
[11:44] <poningru> change that to alsa
[11:46] <MrGreen> Is it possible to use lilo to boot kubuntu?
[11:46] <MrGreen> Is it possible to use lilo to boot kubuntu?
[11:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> yes. don't spam
[11:47] <MrGreen> sorry
[11:48] <MrGreen> I get error 17 with grub just wondering if install went wrong
[11:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> um. not sure, error 18 is to do with hdd paramaters, but i don't know 17
[11:49] <MrGreen> 17 bad partition ;-(
[11:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> o_0 where that?
[11:49] <MrGreen> stage 1 could not find it ....
[11:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh, nasty
[11:50] <MrGreen> booted it via kanotix
[11:50] <Droneigal> I know it was stupid, but I installed Windows XP on my computer, wiping clean my MBR...so, how can I get back my GRUB to access Kubuntu?
[11:50] <MrGreen> o no
[11:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> !grub
[11:50] <ubotu> well, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[11:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> middle link Droneigal
[11:51] <Droneigal> well, thanks Kamping_Kaiser
[11:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> np
[11:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> any questions about the howto just come and ask
[11:52] <knubbe> poningru: thanks
[11:55] <poningru> knubbe: yep
[11:55] <MrGreen> Just wondered when installing do you leave install CD in to complete the process (after reboot)
[11:55] <poningru> MrGreen: no
[11:56] <poningru> because then it would boot off of the cd again
[11:56] <MrGreen> emm when booting via lilo I was dropped into busybox
[11:56] <MrGreen> ;-(
[11:56] <poningru> doesnt installing windows mean that it will wipe your hd clean?
[11:57] <MrGreen> never mind
[11:58] <MrGreen> Kamping_Kaiser: Thank you for your help (sorry about the spam)
[11:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> MrGreen: that's ok. 
[11:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> pointwood: not necesarily
[12:00] <yikes> is there a way to set your aim profile in kopete?
[12:04] <knubbe> poningru: is XMMS, the output plugin was "OSS Driver" instead of alsa.
[12:05] <poningru> hmm try alsa and test
[12:05] <poningru> not sure if it would work or not
[12:06] <knubbe> yes, works fine now,'
[12:06] <knubbe> sorry about the ,' i use a silly keyboard
[12:07] <libben> What should i install so i can check my cpu's temperature?
[12:07] <libben> acpi -t doesnt work.
[12:07] <libben> thermal doesnt exist
[12:08] <BigKahuna> libben, did you have to install Kubuntu with the acpi=off parameter?
[12:08] <poningru> cool
[12:08] <libben> nope
[12:09] <BigKahuna> libben, ok, wouldn't know how to help you then sorry.
[12:09] <poningru> libben: hold on
[12:10] <libben> i have ksensors installed. but it doesnt display temperature
[12:10] <libben> and lmsensors
[12:13] <poningru> ok lets test couple of things first
[12:13] <poningru> go into a terminal
[12:13] <poningru> and type in this
[12:13] <poningru> cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature
[12:13] <poningru> and press enter
[12:13] <Tm_T> sucky
[12:13] <poningru> these damn thermal zone folders have lame names
[12:14] <Tm_T> there must be some way to shoot down automatix and other similar borkage scripts
[12:14] <poningru> try also cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THR0/temperature
[12:14] <libben> cat: /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature: No such file or directory
[12:14] <poningru> actually go to your /proc/acpi/thermal_zone
[12:14] <poningru> in konq
[12:15] <poningru> what folder is there?
[12:15] <poningru> see I dont know what the exact command is going to be
[12:15] <poningru> it depends on your proc
[12:16] <_zix> *bleats*
[12:16] <_zix> :o
[12:16] <libben> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5368
[12:17] <poningru> yeah look under thermal zone
[12:17] <poningru> cd thermal_zone
[12:17] <libben> empty
[12:18] <poningru> hmm yeah that either means you dont have a temp sensor in your comp or its not reading it for some odd reason
[12:19] <libben> well, what can i do do fix it?
[12:19] <libben> build a new kernel? 
[12:19] <poningru> how old is your computer?
[12:20] <libben> p4 1.7 ghz. first p4 socket. 423
[12:20] <poningru> cause many old computers dont have thermometers in them
[12:20] <libben> it has temperature in bios
[12:20] <poningru> hmm
[12:20] <poningru> oh
[12:20] <poningru> ok so how did you install lmsensors?
[12:20] <libben> synaptic
[12:21] <poningru> hold on lets try one more thing
[12:21] <poningru>  acpi -V
[12:21] <poningru> try that command
[12:21] <jpowers> is thermal enabled in /etc/default/acpid/
[12:22] <jpowers> libben: is thermal enabled in /etc/default/acpid?
[12:22] <poningru> I have to go sorry dude
[12:23] <libben> yeah im looking on it jpowers 
[12:23] <jpowers> oh ok
[12:23] <libben> modules all it says
[12:23] <libben> so i guess its loaded
[12:23] <jpowers> I guess so
[12:24] <poningru_sleep> what does acpi -v give you?
[12:24] <jpowers> also lsmod | grep therm should return something
[12:24] <libben> poningru_sleep: same as thermal
[12:25] <poningru_sleep> libben: its your acpi dude
[12:25] <libben> poningru_sleep: u ment -v
[12:25] <libben> and not -V ? =)
[12:25] <poningru_sleep> no -V
[12:25] <libben> acpi 0.09
[12:25] <poningru_sleep> I think
[12:25] <poningru_sleep> hold on
[12:25] <jpowers> -V
[12:25] <jpowers> acpi -V
[12:25] <poningru_sleep> yeah -V
[12:25] <libben> no support for thermal
[12:26] <jpowers> libben: try lsmod | grep therm
[12:26] <poningru_sleep> wtf
[12:26] <libben> libben@burken:~$ lsmod | grep therm
[12:26] <libben> thermal                13000  0
[12:26] <libben> processor              22812  1 therma
[12:26] <poningru_sleep> ok I really have to go
[12:26] <poningru_sleep> night
[12:26] <libben> thxs for the help poningru_sleep 
[12:27] <jpowers> that's weird, libben 
[12:27] <jpowers> I have to go eat supper soon
[12:27] <libben> whats the weird part? it exists? but we wont see it?
[12:27] <jpowers> I wonder if your bios dsdt is messed
[12:27] <poningru_sleep> libben: try asking in #ubuntu
[12:27] <poningru_sleep> if we both leave
[12:27] <libben> i will poningru_sleep 
[12:28] <jpowers> anyway, I'm out of ideas
[12:28] <libben> jpowers: well in bios i can see the temperature. and in windows u can see it in programs.
[12:28] <libben> soo... its like hmm =)
[12:28] <libben> k
[12:28] <libben> thxs
[12:28] <jpowers> afk
[12:28] <libben> im about to mod my cpu fan and replace it with a slower but bigger zalman... so i want to know the temperature before i change
[12:32] <libben> is ff 1.5 in repos yet?
[12:32] <sikor_sxe> i have problems to activate WEP wlan encryption, using breezy's network-settings app. setting it manually using iwconfig does work however, what could i do wrong? there's no error output in that app. it just won't activate wlan0
[12:44] <owner989> sikor maybe you should install the restricted kernel module
[12:44] <owner989> for your kernel
[01:27] <BigKahuna> when you lock you KDE session can you display the KDM logon window as opposed to the KDE login window?
[01:27] <BigKahuna> hope that makes sense.
[01:28] <BigKahuna> I have a fancy moodin KDM theme and would prefer to see that when I lock the KDE sesssion.
[01:30] <manveru> BigKahuna, no - impossible
[01:30] <manveru> BigKahuna, at least to my knowledge... you would have to change users instead
[01:31] <BigKahuna> manveru, Oh well. Thanks anyway.
[01:33] <BigKahuna> How about applying a startup sound to the KDM theme, due you know if that is possible. Currently when I login I have a startup sound when the KDE session starts. I want to start the wav file as soon as my password has been accepted though. possible?
[01:33] <manveru> hmm
[01:34] <manveru> that's also quite near to impossible
[01:34] <Matto> Hi all, I gotta an idea id like to run by yas, see what you think of it.
[01:34] <manveru> maybe it can be done... but i really doubt it
[01:34] <BigKahuna> no idea how moodin KDM themes work but I would a thought I could hack a line of code into the XML file of the moodin theme.
[01:35] <manveru> well, you most certainly will get problems with artsd then
[01:35] <BigKahuna> manveru, because it would have started yet?
[01:35] <BigKahuna> would not
[01:35] <manveru> there is not much more time than for short *pling* or something
[01:36] <manveru> until it checks for available audio-hardware
[01:40] <Matto> do you think a website that collates tips, ticks, guides and stuff for Linux Distros would be a good thing, aiming the information at people who are just starting to use it.
[01:40] <Matto> like the Ubuntu Guide kinda thing. 
[01:41] <manveru> Matto, you mean something like a newbie-wiki?
[01:41] <Hobbsee> !wiki
[01:41] <manveru> :)
[01:41] <Hobbsee> for ubuntu/kubuntu, the wiki pretty much does that
[01:41] <manveru> yeah - pretty much...
[01:41] <termo> Hi, just new with Kubuntu. I can't seem to find the correct ALSA-configuration file. I have 2 soundcards. Both of them are detected. But I want to disable one completely. I commented out all snd-cmipci (driver) entries in any file I found. But still it gets loaded...
[01:41] <Matto> yeah thats what im talkiung about
[01:42] <Matto> like yeah guides for MP3's DVD's and what not
[01:42] <manveru> termo, just uninstall it from your computer
[01:42] <Matto> to make it so much more easier than having to seach though forums.
[01:42] <Hobbsee> Matto: it's already in the wiki...
[01:42] <termo> manveru: I can't it's on my mb :S
[01:42] <Hobbsee> !wiki multimedia
[01:42] <manveru> termo, if it's an onboard one... do it the bios
[01:42] <Hobbsee> better still...
[01:42] <Hobbsee> !multimedia
[01:42] <ubotu> I guess multimedia is for codecs,  http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies ; and for applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia
[01:42] <termo> manveru: there's no option in my bios...
[01:43] <manveru> termo, i never came across a bios that doesn't offer disabling the snd... is it sis or something?
[01:44] <termo> manveru: well, mine hasn't. I have quadruple-checked it
[01:44] <manveru> and... let me guess - you have a soundblaster 5.1 live?
[01:44] <termo> manveru: yep
[01:44] <termo> :)
[01:45] <manveru> _lots_ of people have exactly this problem
[01:45] <manveru> please google for 
[01:45] <termo> manveru: I can't seem to find a good howto for configuring modules/sound/alsa in (K)ubuntu
[01:45] <manveru> soundblaster ubuntu alsa
[01:45] <termo> will this work the same as in debian (this makes searching a lot easier)
[01:45] <manveru> well - this is one of the points i don't like in ubuntu
[01:45] <manveru> somebody had the insane idea of removing alsaconf
[01:46] <termo> hmmz
[01:46] <manveru> i mean - it's the _best_ working sound-configuration-tool in all linux-world - and they just remove it
[01:48] <manveru> Hobbsee, have you some idea why that is like that?
[01:49] <manveru> !alsa
[01:49] <ubotu> alsa is, like, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[01:49] <Hobbsee> i have no idea sorry manveru 
[01:49] <Hobbsee> i'm definetly no expert in anything sound related
[01:50] <imrabti> Hello 
[01:50] <Hobbsee> hey
[01:50] <imrabti> i've a problem 
[01:51] <imrabti> Can anyone Help me 
[01:51] <imrabti> please
[01:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> what's the problem? we cant hlep if we don't know
[01:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> *grouches*
[01:51] <imrabti> In K3b 
[01:51] <Hobbsee> !tell imrabti about ask
[01:51] <Hobbsee> !tell imrabti about anyone
[01:51] <imrabti> I can use it only whem i'm root 
[01:52] <imrabti> i can't use it whem i'm a simple user
[01:52] <Hobbsee> imrabti: what error message?
[01:52] <imrabti> "You don't have permission"
[01:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> imrabti: open k3b,a nd run it's config util (i don't have it installed anymore)
[01:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> and remember to kdesu, not sudo
[01:53] <imrabti> But I can use it when i'm a root with the sudo command
[01:53] <imrabti> kdesu
[01:53] <imrabti> Ok 
[01:53] <imrabti> thanks 
[01:53] <imrabti> for the help 
[01:54] <manveru> hmm, how are the chances sudo did already do something evil?
[01:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> manveru: 90%
[01:54] <manveru> -do..
[01:54] <Hobbsee> i'd probably say 95% lol
[01:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> ice authority == rooted (so to speak ;D)
[01:54] <Hobbsee> chmod the ice authority?
[01:55] <Hobbsee> *chown, i mean
[01:55] <manveru> man i feel sooo damp today...
[01:55] <Hobbsee> ?
[01:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> yep
[01:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> imrabti: can you run this command in a terminal?  `ls -lh ~/.ICEauthority
[01:55] <imrabti> Are There any IDE For Java in Kde like Ecplipse
[01:55] <imrabti> ?? 
[01:55] <manveru> imrabti, JEdit :)
[01:55] <manveru> imrabti, or why not use Eclipse?
[01:56] <imrabti> Because he take a lot of Memory 
[01:56] <manveru> every IDE eats lots of money...
[01:57] <imrabti> Yes
[01:57] <imrabti> But not like Kdevelop 
[01:57] <imrabti> or Anjuta 
[01:57] <manveru> then use them?
[01:57] <manveru> afaik Anjuta does java
[01:57] <manveru> never got it working to a level i would have felt comfortable with (and it's gtk... *shiver*)
[01:58] <manveru> i better shouldn't mention i use x-chat right now...
[01:58] <imrabti> ok
[01:58] <Hobbsee> you can use some gtk stuff without using all of it lol
[01:58] <Hobbsee> but i prefer qt stuff too, in general
[01:59] <imrabti> IYes Me too I prefer to use Qt Applications 
[01:59] <manveru> imrabti, there is Komodo
[01:59] <imrabti> An IDE 
[01:59] <manveru> yeah, a beta is just running for it
[01:59] <imrabti> for Java 
[01:59] <manveru> if you want you can just give it a try
[01:59] <imrabti> ?? 
[01:59] <manveru> yeah
[02:00] <imrabti> Ok thanks I will try it 
[02:00] <artox> hey all!
[02:00] <manveru> wait a second..
[02:00] <artox> where to get xorg server sdk?
[02:00] <manveru> imrabti, no sorry - it doesn't
[02:01] <Hobbsee> artox: maybe try apt-cache search?
[02:01] <imrabti> Ok
[02:02] <artox> no its not in the repositories, btw. i enabled all
[02:02] <manveru> imrabti, sorry, doing only ruby - so i haven't got that good overview about java-ides
[02:02] <manveru> artox, what exactly is a xorg server sdk?
[02:02] <imrabti> ok
[02:02] <artox> its the sdk of xorg
[02:02] <artox> to compile things
[02:03] <artox> because i want to compile the evdev driver
[02:03] <termo> hmm, there seem to be lots of people having this problem, but I haven't found out how this sound card detection system works...
[02:03] <mianos> hi, i have kubuntu breezy installed (kde3.5) but i cant print in pdf-files - Why?
[02:04] <termo> Does anyone know at what staget (in which file) sound card modules are loaded?
[02:04] <mianos> can somone help me/tell me what i have to install=
[02:04] <artox> where can i get the SDK, konsole tells me: checking for valid Xorg SDK... configure: error: Unable to find xf86Version.h under /usr/X11R6/lib/Server/include and /usr/X11R6/lib/Server/xc/include
[02:07] <lirock> Hi 
[02:08] <lirock> Just installed the 64bit version , great..
[02:09] <Hobbsee> night all...
[02:09] <Sarkie> hi
[02:09] <lirock> Is there some news about the 64 bit flash player from Macromedia?
[02:09] <Sarkie> quick question
[02:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> lirock: not afaik
[02:09] <lirock> Hi Sarkie..
[02:10] <Sarkie> if i have Ubuntu can i install Kubuntu over the top and swap gnome for KDE?
[02:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> yes
[02:10] <Sarkie> easily?
[02:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> reasonably
[02:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> removing gnomes the hard bit
[02:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> "hard"
[02:10] <lirock> Yes.. :) I've done that before.. it works great.
[02:11] <Sarkie> how "hard"?
[02:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> Sarkie: i havent done it myself. the 'hard' bit is in getting all the files, but the computer runs fine if they are left lying around
[02:11] <lirock> Or think about it to use them both
[02:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> just take up space
[02:11] <Sarkie> hmm
[02:11] <Sarkie> mite wipe Ubuntu
[02:12] <Sarkie> just got VMWARE installed properly but i really dont like gnome
[02:12] <lirock> Just add the rules to your sources.lst and give it a try.. 
[02:13] <Sarkie> a "try"
[02:13] <Sarkie> well brb ill boot into ubuntu
[02:16] <Sarkie> lo
[02:18] <Sarkie> right whats the sources list please :D
[02:20] <bdmp> I can not use "administrator mode" button under "file sharing" in the gui, how can I fix this? I have breezy that I downloaded today. 
[02:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> bdmp: open up konsole and type 'kdesu kcontrollcenter' IIRC
[02:25] <bdmp> ok
[02:25] <bdmp> command not found
[02:26] <artox> its kcontrol
[02:26] <artox> how to see my X version?
[02:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> thanks artox
[02:26] <bdmp> think its working
[02:28] <bdmp> whats next
[02:28] <bdmp> ah ha 
[02:28] <bdmp> love ya
[02:30] <bdmp> can someone help me edit fstab to mount a hard drive permanatly that I have just mounted?
[02:31] <djk_> !mount
[02:31] <ubotu> rumour has it, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[02:31] <Sarkie> !kde
[02:31] <ubotu> [kde]  A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[02:31] <Sarkie> :D
[02:31] <Sarkie> anyone done that?
[02:35] <brodel> done what?
[02:35] <Sarkie> ubotu [kde]  A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[02:35] <ubotu> Sarkie: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[02:35] <brodel> install KDE?
[02:35] <Sarkie> yup on ubuntu
[02:36] <brodel> Yeah I did that a while ago.
[02:36] <Sarkie> did it work ok then?
[02:36] <bdmp> The hard drive mounting faq says "Next add an entry in /etc/fstab using existing entries as a guide and you can then mount and/or unmount your new drive as you see fit by using the command:" That is pretty vague.  Can anybody tell me what the line would say for a fat32 drive that anyone can read write or execute?
[02:36] <brodel> yeah.. enough for me to test it out. 
[02:37] <brodel> Later on, I decided to start over with kubuntu, but that was just because I wanted to start over anyway. It let me see KDE and test it out and that's what I wanted. Most of my little complaints about ubuntu I found out were gnome related.
[02:37] <brodel> I like KDE much better now that I see the difference. :)
[02:38] <Sarkie> well i dont really like Gnome
[02:38] <_d4vid> hi all
[02:38] <Sarkie> so im trying to install it
[02:38] <gambix> http://jmouette.nerim.net/pub/fr-dvorak <-- cette carte n'est plus valide !
[02:38] <brodel> do that then. (I'd use sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop though)
[02:39] <gambix> enfin l'adresse :(
[02:39] <gambix> quelqu'un a a stock chez lui ?*
[02:39] <gambix> oups
[02:39] <djk_> !fr
[02:39] <brodel> gambix, #ubuntu-fr
[02:39] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[02:39] <gambix> bad chan 
[02:40] <gambix> :)
[02:40] <brodel> ha.. blame the chan
[02:40] <gambix> sorry
[02:40] <brodel> np
[02:40] <djk_> frenchies :p
[02:40] <Sarkie> oui dacor
[02:43] <bdmp> can someone tell me how to add repositories with all the handy things I will need, like firefox?
[02:44] <Sarkie> isnt it in by default
[02:44] <Sarkie> ?
[02:44] <bdmp> yeah
[02:44] <bdmp> i don't think it was in hoary
[02:44] <brodel> !repositories
[02:44] <ubotu> repositories is, like, totally, How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list
[02:44] <bdmp> I just installed breezy 5 min ago
[02:45] <brodel> funny, I've been here long enough to learn those little things, but I still can't do much on my own :(
[02:45] <manveru> !sources
[02:45] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:47] <brodel> that source-o-matic thing it pretty cool.
[02:48] <seaLne> anyone else noticing in kde3.5 konsole that ALT+arrow keys dosen't change channels in irssi?
[02:48] <brodel> never saw that before
[02:48] <brodel> It does for me using konversation
[02:59] <brodel> ok. I added the key and updated my repositories like it says on this page http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php but what do I do to update KDE to 3.5? I am running RC1 now
[02:59] <jpowers> brodel: does apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade not work for you?
[03:00] <slow-motion> hallo
[03:00] <brodel> I did update, didn't know I should do dist-upgrade
[03:01] <jpowers> that's what I did
[03:01] <jpowers> it worked like a champ
[03:01] <brodel> ok. Did that.. looks like it's gonna take a while. Thanks.
[03:01] <jpowers> yep
[03:01] <jpowers> took me a while too
[03:12] <lwizardl> anyone wanna help me with getting java working
[03:12] <brodel> wish I could.. but I'd just screw ya up more :\
[03:12] <hugelmopf> lwizardl: just as a browser plugin?
[03:12] <lwizardl> no
[03:13] <manveru> !java
[03:13] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[03:13] <manveru> !javadebs
[03:13] <ubotu> rumour has it, javadebs is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[03:24] <_radikal> hi 
[03:24] <nxv__> hi, how do i install win32 codecs for mplayer. or in other words, where do i get the package?
[03:24] <Sarkie> :S
[03:24] <_radikal> searh the mplayer site
[03:25] <_radikal> there are a links to download
[03:25] <Sarkie>  Right i have just installed Kubuntu desktop over Uubntu, now gnome is still on it, i have lost windows from boot up menu and gained maybe 3 other ubuntus, can some help me!!!!
[03:25] <hugelmopf> nxv__: even easier: check the wiki site "RestrictedFormats"
[03:26] <hugelmopf> nxv__: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:27] <nxv__> hugelmopf: thx this was exactly the thing i searched for. but only searching vor win32 and mplayer i din't find it. thx
[03:28] <hugelmopf> nxv__: there is also an unofficial repository, that includes a lot of this non-free stuff: "deb ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/plf/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free"
[03:29] <hugelmopf> Sarkie: Windows is gone from the boot menu by installing kubuntu-desktop?
[03:29] <nxv__> hugelmopf: is it secure or could i break my install, so i would have to reinstall when switching to the next release. had this porblem with backports before switching to breezy and try to avoid it now.
[03:29] <Sarkie> either that or the latest update
[03:29] <Sarkie> i did both
[03:29] <Sarkie> ive jsut added root   (hd0,0)
[03:29] <Sarkie> makeactive
[03:29] <Sarkie> chainloader +1
[03:29] <Sarkie> into menu list
[03:29] <Sarkie> is that ok?
[03:30] <hugelmopf> nxv__: i don't see why it should give problems, but of course it is unofficial, and thus not taken into consideration for upgrade paths etc. you can still remove it later though, if something does not work?
[03:31] <hugelmopf> Sarkie: i'll let somebody else comment on that, since i don't have windows on my laptop, so i don't know exactly, what the windows grub entry should look like.
[03:31] <Sarkie> ok if that has worked, how do i remvoe gnome? and make kde default?
[03:31] <nxv__> hugelmopf: thx for ur advice. i will installe win32codes now manually to prevent apt-get update installing something from this repository without me noticing it
[03:33] <IULIUS23ro> hi everybody
[03:33] <Sarkie> hi dr nick
[03:33] <hugelmopf> Sarkie: have you tried if KDE is default already? i.e. you start into a "Kubuntu" login screen?
[03:33] <Sarkie> hugelmopf, i do then it reverts back to gnome when it loads
[03:33] <IULIUS23ro> whats totalcommanader's cousin in linux?
[03:34] <Sarkie> so kubuntu loading screen, ubuntu everything else, i still have ubuntu desktop installed shall i remove that?
[03:34] <hugelmopf> Sarkie: there is something called "session type" on the login screen, where you can choose KDE
[03:34] <hugelmopf> it should remember your choice
[03:34] <Sarkie> right
[03:35] <Sarkie> brb
[03:38] <Sarkie> and it works
[03:38] <Sarkie> cheers
[03:39] <Sarkie> wheres snayptic and all that stuff?
[03:39] <lwizardl> how do i installed .deb ?
[03:39] <hugelmopf> Sarkie: under Kubuntu they have their own package manager, called Adept
[03:40] <hugelmopf> lwizardl: "sudo dpkg -i package.deb"
[03:40] <IULIUS23ro> what file manager like tcmd in windoze is the best in kde environment???
[03:40] <yasser> how do i get rid of the menu so that when i install new distro the old menu doesnt come up?
[03:40] <hugelmopf> IULIUS: sorry, i don't know that one. what about konqueror, it should be tweakable to all your needs?
[03:41] <hugelmopf> yasser: which menu, the boot menu which gives you the choice between different Linux, Windows, ...?
[03:41] <Kibou> IULIUS23ro: it's called krusader
[03:41] <yasser> hugelmopf: no no the kde menu:)
[03:42] <hugelmopf> yasser: you want to get rid of the K-Menu?
[03:42] <hugelmopf> rightclick -> remove
[03:42] <yasser> hugelmopf: i mean i dont want to get the menu of my previous distro with orphaned icons......
[03:43] <hugelmopf> yasser: hmmm, since these are "per-user", you might have to edit them with kmenuedit.
[03:44] <yasser> hugelmopf: im the only user.......say im installing pclinuxos.....with /home intact, but i want the default pclinuxos kde menu after installation, not the old kubuntu menu....how to do this?
[03:44] <Sarkie> wheres adept?
[03:45] <hugelmopf> yasser: with "kmenuedit" you can edit your menu, is that good enough?
[03:45] <hugelmopf> Sarkie: it should be in the K-Menu under "System"
[03:45] <Sarkie> nope :S
[03:46] <hugelmopf> try if it is installed: Alt-F2, adept, Enter
[03:46] <hugelmopf> sorry
[03:46] <hugelmopf> you have to run as root, so on the console: "sudo adept"
[03:47] <Sarkie> nice
[03:47] <hugelmopf> Sarkie: if it starts there, you might want to run "kappfinder", to fill your menu.
[03:48] <Sarkie> hmm
[03:48] <Sarkie> it didnt find it
[03:49] <hugelmopf> Sarkie: I am not sure, why it doesn't show up, since I have not switched from Ubuntu myself, but installed Kubuntu right away. 
[03:49] <Sarkie> well it was in gnome before
[03:49] <Sarkie> i nolticied it
[03:49] <Sarkie> ill make a loader?
[03:49] <hugelmopf> to have it in the menu, use "kmenuedit" to add it
[03:50] <Sarkie> odd
[03:50] <Sarkie> it didnt mount my windows partition
[03:51] <hugelmopf> Sarkie: what did you expect, and what happened?
[03:51] <Sarkie> well it used to mount it on load up
[03:52] <lwizardl> how do i make a script to run a program? i need to always pass java -jar dvarchive.jar or so it seems
[03:52] <Sarkie> ln
[03:52] <Sarkie> oops
[03:52] <Sarkie> i mean alias
[03:53] <hugelmopf> lwizardl: you can define aliases in ~/.bashrc e.g. alias la='ls -a'
[03:53] <Sarkie> hugelmopf, i did infact just KDE isnt seeing it correctly
[03:53] <hugelmopf> Sarkie: it is mounted? and where do you expect to see it?
[03:54] <Sarkie> well a program use for music, says it wasnt mounted
[03:54] <Sarkie> /media/windows
[03:55] <Sarkie> can i remove ubuntu desktop now, and will it remove gnome from my system?
[03:55] <hugelmopf> Sarkie: i am not sure, if it will remove gnome from your system. i think it won't.
[03:55] <hugelmopf> you can try though
[03:55] <hugelmopf> i'll be back later
[03:55] <Sarkie> :s hmm
[03:55] <Sarkie> lets try
[04:06] <IULIUS23ro> what do i have to install to fix this?? configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0.3) (headers and libraries) not found
[04:08] <IULIUS23ro> ??
[04:08] <ninHer> is it up the http server from www.kde.org ?
[04:08] <Kamping_Kaise1> qt headers?
[04:08] <IULIUS23ro> in kynaptic doesnt show me qt....-devel
[04:09] <ninHer> could anyone check for www.kde.org ? thanks
[04:09] <IULIUS23ro> and i have qt3 headers
[04:09] <IULIUS23ro> :-/
[04:10] <bhna> IULIUS23ro: libqt3-mt-dev
[04:11] <IULIUS23ro> i have them
[04:11] <IULIUS23ro> :(
[04:11] <ninHer> could anyone check for www.kde.org ? thanks
[04:12] <Sarkie> hi
[04:12] <Kaiser_Sleeps> ninHer: what for?
[04:12] <Kaiser_Sleeps>  hi Sarkie
[04:12] <Sarkie> whats the command to load up a commnad line, like cmd in windows?
[04:12] <bhna> IULIUS23ro: what do you compile and how?
[04:12] <ninHer> www.kde.org Kaiser_Sleeps 
[04:12] <bhna> ninHer: is down
[04:13] <ninHer> thanks bhna 
[04:13] <Kaiser_Sleeps> i cant find it eithr
[04:17] <Sarkie> how do i load bash or whatever
[04:18] <bhna> Sarkie: open a konsole
[04:18] <Sarkie> i cant i just removed loads of shit and most of KDE :S
[04:18] <Sarkie> trying to install Kubuntu
[04:20] <bhna> Sarkie: ctrl+alt+F1 and back to X11 ctrl+alt+F7
[04:21] <lwizardl1> how do i make a script to run a program? i need to always pass java -jar dvarchive.jar or so it seems
[04:22] <IULIUS23ro> bhna i wanna compile pcmm-1.0 its a file manager like krusader
[04:25] <bhna> IULIUS23ro: what have you done before the error apears?
[04:25] <IULIUS23ro> nothing
[04:25] <IULIUS23ro> i watched a movie :P :)
[04:26] <IULIUS23ro> now im installing qt4
[04:26] <bhna> IULIUS23ro: i mean e.g ./configure make make install
[04:26] <IULIUS23ro> nothing its my first ./configure .... application
[04:27] <IULIUS23ro> i will tell u after i download qt4 if those errors are still there k?
[04:27] <bhna> IULIUS23ro: do you have the sourcecode or the binary
[04:28] <Sarkie> hi
[04:28] <IULIUS23ro> dont know the difference
[04:29] <bhna> IULIUS23ro: what and whrer do you download the program?
[04:29] <Sarkie> say if i removed KDE from UBuntu and therefore didnt have konsole and such, how would i install packages?
[04:29] <IULIUS23ro> i have to make ./configure make and make install thats for sure
[04:29] <bhna> *where
[04:29] <IULIUS23ro> linuxsoftware.cz/en
[04:29] <IULIUS23ro> brb
[04:29] <IULIUS23ro> on the phone
[04:29] <Sarkie> help me :P
[04:29] <bhna> IULIUS23ro: have you make ./configure
[04:36] <IULIUS23ro> same problem
[04:36] <IULIUS23ro> :(
[04:43] <bhna> IULIUS23ro: please read ./configure --help
[04:48] <Kibou> what's wrong with krusader..
[04:54] <berkes> I am wondering what alternatives for kaffeine there are, besides mplayer?
[04:55] <Tm_T> kmplayer
[04:55] <Tm_T> just better
[04:55] <sikor_sxe> vlc
[04:55] <sikor_sxe> codeine
[04:56] <berkes> kplayer = kmplayer. 
[04:56] <treefrog> painkiller lol
[04:56] <berkes> the thing is, that indeed that indeed mplayer is FAR better, but has legal issues, so i am told
[04:57] <berkes> hence kubuntu ships with that (imnso) awfull kaffeine. 
[04:58] <bhna> berkes: kplayer and kmplayer are not the same
[04:59] <berkes> no, whats the difference then? acc to apt-cache show they are...
[05:02] <bhna> berkes: http://kmplayer.kde.org/ and http://kplayer.sourceforge.net/
[05:03] <musashiden> um, iam having a little trouble with my kubuntu ever since i upgraded from hoary to breezy
[05:03] <berkes> bhna: aah, thats odd. I guess its because i have some older repositories. 
[05:03] <berkes> bhna: and I remember that in mandriva they shipped as one package too, the kpart and the kmplayer. 
[05:04] <musashiden> when i rebooted my pc, it hangs on the loading screen and the last imput it gives is "cheking battry status..."
[05:04] <berkes> anyway, thanks for the urls
[05:06] <musashiden> anyone knows how to deal with this?
[05:09] <treefrog> musashiden: thats not nice..  sorry no answer but condolinces.. 
[05:09] <releaselogger> http://dev.bit-freaks.net/images/tmp2.png <-- amaroK 1.3.7 nears
[05:12] <berkes> so, i want to compile kplayer / kmplayer and mplayer, but prefer to do so within apt, any hints? 
[05:13] <berkes> first of all, i cannot find any repos with these packages, so i guess the sources will be just as hard to find
[05:14] <musashiden> treefrog: huh? :\
[05:15] <musashiden> it has something to do with the nvidia drivers
[05:15] <musashiden> because if i reconfigure Xorg, and change the device to nv, Xorg opens up when i restart my computer
[05:16] <musashiden> and when i change it back, the same problem appears again
[05:18] <releaselogger> berkes: why kmplayer?
[05:19] <berkes> releaselogger: 'cause I like it. I really dig its interface. 
[05:19] <berkes> releaselogger: why do you ask? Are there better alternatives?
[05:19] <releaselogger> berkes: codeine
[05:19] <berkes> what backend does that use?
[05:19] <releaselogger> though it's using xine as backend
[05:19] <berkes> ugh
[05:20] <berkes> xine + gstreamer + arts don't mix
[05:20] <releaselogger> yeah
[05:20] <releaselogger> let dmix mix
[05:20] <releaselogger> :P
[05:20] <berkes> gstreamer and arts kinda go together
[05:20] <releaselogger> gst is crashy like a flying dog IMHO
[05:21] <berkes> (untill you want to start using that fsking skype cr#p)
[05:21] <berkes> releaselogger: your right. And Arts is ugly like hell. And xine does not play nic ewith the other kids. 
[05:22] <IULIUS23ro> how is it posible to have sound on xmms or other application and skype?
[05:22] <IULIUS23ro> in the same time
[05:22] <berkes> releaselogger: conclusion: multimedia on linux is still crap (as compared to its opponents OSX and windhooze)
[05:22] <releaselogger> IULIUS23ro: not possible
[05:22] <releaselogger> skype uses oss
[05:22] <releaselogger> oss = not mixable at software level
[05:22] <IULIUS23ro> :(
[05:22] <releaselogger> berkes: that's the disadvantage of open source
[05:22] <berkes> IULIUS23ro: you should google a bit, theree are some oss wrappers, but its very very hard
[05:22] <releaselogger> nah
[05:22] <berkes> releaselogger: not that much,
[05:23] <IULIUS23ro> berkes: linux is like a little child a smart one have patience
[05:23] <releaselogger> very very very very very bad
[05:23] <releaselogger> berkes: oh it is, just compare oss and alsa
[05:23] <berkes> releaselogger: its mostly because of the fragmentaion at the moment
[05:23] <releaselogger> why do people still code in oss?
[05:23] <musashiden> i guess nobody has ever dealt with my problem before
[05:23] <releaselogger> berkes: yeah but that's because of the OSS
[05:23] <berkes> releaselogger: on all levels there is fragmentation
[05:24] <releaselogger> yeah but it's worse at mm 
[05:24] <releaselogger> since there are too much equal solutions which are equal common used
[05:24] <termo> Can anyone tell me when (and whicht file is responsible for this) sound-card-modules are loaded at boot-time?
[05:24] <berkes> from the sound servers and hardware supp, untill the GUIs: there are just too many choices. 
[05:24] <IULIUS23ro> musashiden: try to stop some services in all init's regading power management and battery status worked for me
[05:24] <berkes> and none of them really seem to get close: 
[05:25] <releaselogger> berkes: choise is not bad, choise at coding level IS bad
[05:25] <berkes> no, not true, JUK and amarok get close
[05:25] <releaselogger> nah
[05:25] <releaselogger> definitly not
[05:25] <releaselogger> juk is more database than anything else
[05:25] <berkes> yea, but if thats what you want :
[05:25] <berkes> :)
[05:25] <releaselogger> yeah
[05:25] <releaselogger> but oss vs. alsa
[05:26] <releaselogger> that's a big problem in sound area
[05:26] <berkes> anyhow, does anybody know how to nicely compile all them ?
[05:26] <releaselogger> probably not
[05:26] <berkes> releaselogger: and what about the Arts / gst / xine choices?
[05:26] <berkes> its just as bad, imnso.
[05:26] <releaselogger> berkes: yeah that's the next level
[05:26] <releaselogger> why must have arts and gnome have it's own sound backend?
[05:27] <berkes> neither of those three are stable and none of them Just Work, it seems.
[05:27] <releaselogger> why is gstreamer still not stable?
[05:27] <releaselogger> why are xine devs so lazy?
[05:27] <releaselogger> berkes: xine is stable like a rock
[05:27] <berkes> a lot of em blame the patents on codecs 
[05:27] <releaselogger> gst is just stable
[05:27] <releaselogger> if you use it for open codecs or closed
[05:28] <releaselogger> arts is out-dated
[05:28] <berkes> releaselogger: right, so, how nice does xine play together with Arts?
[05:28] <manveru> berkes, very
[05:28] <releaselogger> berkes: there shouldn't be a reason for
[05:28] <berkes> releaselogger: will xine close down all audio? 
[05:28] <releaselogger> nope
[05:28] <releaselogger> it uses dmix
[05:28] <releaselogger> if present
[05:28] <releaselogger> like arts does
[05:28] <berkes> right, sounds like i should go for that then
[05:29] <releaselogger> yup
[05:29] <berkes> can xine use alsa?
[05:29] <releaselogger> yeah
[05:29] <releaselogger> else dmix won't work
[05:29] <releaselogger> actually every soundbackand I know uses alsa
[05:29] <releaselogger> just not the closed source applications
[05:29] <releaselogger> they use oss
[05:29] <berkes> so, then why the beeep does kubunut not ship with that, instead of that never working kaffeine/gst combi?
[05:30] <releaselogger> berkes: gst = better integreated in ubuntu imo
[05:30] <berkes> heh, kubunut :) funny typo
[05:31] <berkes> releaselogger: one last question :) is there a kpart for xine?
[05:31] <releaselogger> berkes: nope
[05:31] <releaselogger> that's why you should use codeine
[05:31] <releaselogger> it got a xine part :D
[05:32] <releaselogger> err
[05:32] <berkes> ah :)
[05:32] <releaselogger> kpar
[05:32] <releaselogger> kpart
[05:36] <tapanim> opengl and ati drivers :/ my screen is too bright
[05:36] <tapanim> and gamma won't help enough
[05:36] <tapanim> gamma is 0,4 that i can even see something else like white...
[05:36] <releaselogger> berkes: http://dev.bit-freaks.net/apachelogger/codeine_1.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[05:37] <lwizardl> ok java is screwed up 
[05:37] <berkes> lwizardl: nothing new there :)
[05:37] <berkes> releaselogger: thanks
[05:37] <releaselogger> yw
[05:37] <lwizardl> http://pastebin.com/448406
[05:38] <lwizardl> thats what i'm getting when i try and run a java app
[05:41] <tapanim> in xorg.conf i replaced ati with fglrx, and then it makes my screen almosta white
[05:41] <tapanim> opengl won't work if i use driver="ati"
[05:41] <berkes> releaselogger: hmm, im getting some dependency issues? are you interested in them? for debugging purposes?
[05:41] <tapanim> but then screen is ok
[05:41] <tapanim> :/
[05:42] <releaselogger> berkes: they should all be solvable with offical repos
[05:42] <tapanim> how to get work both of those?
[05:42] <berkes> releaselogger: not here, though
[05:43] <releaselogger> berkes: ok, please paste the issues :)
[05:43] <berkes> codeine: Vereisten: kdelibs4c2 (>= 4:3.4.3-1) maar 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu1 zal genstalleerd worden
[05:43] <Lord_Athur> hi
[05:43] <berkes> thats europeanish for kdelibs4c2 but 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu1 will be installed
[05:43] <Lord_Athur> what's the name of the application that allows me to use GAMBAS with the kde options?
[05:44] <releaselogger> hm
[05:45] <Lord_Athur> ?
[05:45] <Lord_Athur> hm?
[05:45] <releaselogger> berkes: isn't all my package though
[05:45] <berkes> Lord_Athur: if no-one here knows, maybe ask in #kde, its busier there, normally
[05:45] <berkes> releaselogger: how do you mean?
[05:46] <releaselogger> berkes: just a modified version
[05:46] <Lord_Athur> ok berkes 
[05:46] <berkes> releaselogger: ah. 
[05:47] <berkes> releaselogger: could it be that this one is made for kde 3.5? 'cause on my current box i run vanilla kubuntu (kindof)
[05:47] <releaselogger> yup
[05:47] <IULIUS23ro> a good program for defragmentation on kubuntu??
[05:47] <releaselogger> berkes: I can send you the sources if you want to build it
[05:47] <berkes> kde 3.5 gave me a terrible time on my other box... so ill wait with upgrading ;)
[05:48] <releaselogger> IULIUS23ro: dude, linux filesystems fragment at a very low level
[05:48] <berkes> IULIUS23ro: you normally need not worry bout that with kubuntu
[05:48] <IULIUS23ro> ;;)
[05:48] <IULIUS23ro> thats a good thing
[05:48] <releaselogger> you have to have a partition filled up to 95% to get fragments in general
[05:48] <berkes> its like asking "is there a good virusscanner for linux" 
[05:49] <IULIUS23ro> a beginner's question
[05:49] <berkes> np IULIUS23ro
[05:49] <berkes> releaselogger: http://www.methylblue.com/codeine/ are the sources, not?
[05:49] <IULIUS23ro> but what should i do with the libs after i uninstall something 
[05:49] <releaselogger> yup
[05:49] <IULIUS23ro> how do i mentain a clean kubuntu?
[05:49] <berkes> IULIUS23ro: if you use apt, its clean enough
[05:50] <releaselogger> berkes: I think you need scons to build it, since mxcl is again using feature's technologie
[05:50] <berkes> ugh.
[05:50] <musashiden> come on people, i really need help. i have tried to do everything, it just wont work. i think the breezy nvidia-glx drivers are buggy on breezy
[05:50] <berkes> i thiiiink ill leave it for now, then :) this is my work machine, cannot afford it to become too unstable :)
[05:51] <releaselogger> berkes: scons isn't unstable
[05:51] <releaselogger> just not commonly used
[05:51] <releaselogger> ...yet ;-)
[05:51] <berkes> releaselogger: no, i know, did not mean it like that, but im checking what i need for it and all, for codeine to compile, 
[05:51] <berkes> its a bit too much for a critical machine, for now.
[05:52] <releaselogger> too bad :|
[05:52] <releaselogger> though codeine doesn't depend on that much afaik
[05:52] <releaselogger> just qt kde xine and scons
[05:52] <czert> hi
[05:52] <czert> how to find an irc chat from my country?
[05:53] <releaselogger> I think there is no kubuntu channel for sk
[05:53] <berkes> releaselogger: i've bookmarked it all, and ill install it on my other box, the one i fskd up by upgrading to 3.5 anyway :)
[05:53] <releaselogger> berkes: hehe, well, what's the problem with 3.5?
[05:54] <berkes> releaselogger: kmail is crashing on my mostly. but kopete crashes quite often too, 
[05:54] <releaselogger> oh
[05:54] <releaselogger> strange
[05:54] <berkes> its a known issue, im following it,
[05:54] <releaselogger> ah
[05:54] <berkes> but kmail is critical for me. 
[05:54] <releaselogger> yeah
[05:54] <sikor_sxe> my wireless adapter doesn't come up at boot. i have to manually modprobe it. what can i do about this?
[05:54] <releaselogger> berkes: you also could leave kmail at 1.3.x
[05:54] <czert> i would be satisfied with channel about linux
[05:54] <releaselogger> er
[05:54] <releaselogger> 3.4.x
[05:55] <czert> i have beginers questions... :)
[05:55] <sambagirl> what is Kmail?
[05:55] <releaselogger> O.o
[05:55] <releaselogger> sambagirl: kde's mail application
[05:55] <sambagirl> oh
[05:55] <releaselogger> czert: what irc client are you using?
[05:55] <czert> konversation
[05:56] <releaselogger> czert: in the 6th item in the menubar, there is a option which starts a search dialog
[05:56] <releaselogger> there you can search for channels
[05:56] <czert> it is called window yeah?
[05:57] <releaselogger> yup
[05:57] <releaselogger> even in sk?
[05:57] <releaselogger> cool!
[05:57] <IULIUS23ro> http://www.boingboing.net/2005/07/28/microsoft_genuine_ad.html
[05:57] <czert> chanel list?
[05:58] <czert> channel list
[05:58] <Sarkie> IULIUS23ro why did you post that?
[05:58] <IULIUS23ro> to make joke about those who are working at M..soft
[05:58] <IULIUS23ro> im not aloud??
[05:59] <IULIUS23ro> are IT news
[05:59] <apachelogger> czert: yup
[06:00] <sambagirl> i see evolution mail but no Kmail. I thinking it not exist 
[06:00] <sambagirl> wash kubuntu daily :D
[06:00] <berkes> sambagirl: if you installed kubuntu from scratch tis there
[06:00] <sambagirl> from scratches?
[06:00] <berkes> evolution is a gnome/ubuntu thing
[06:00] <sambagirl> i installed ubuntu
[06:01] <sambagirl> then i installed kubuntu
[06:01] <apachelogger> evolution is a ximian thing
[06:01] <berkes> sambagirl: if you install kubuntu-desktop you have kmail
[06:01] <apachelogger> not gnome not ubuntu
[06:01] <apachelogger> just ximian
[06:01] <sambagirl> ok
[06:01] <apachelogger> and since ximian controlls 90% of gnome
[06:01] <berkes> apachelogger: sure, but its the default gnome and ubuntu clienbt
[06:01] <apachelogger> it's somekind of gnome thing
[06:02] <sambagirl> so i type kmail in root?
[06:02] <berkes> sambagirl: do you see kontact?
[06:02] <sambagirl> oui
[06:02] <berkes> that one holds kmail
[06:02] <berkes> just start kontact.
[06:02] <sambagirl> ahh ok thank you
[06:03] <berkes> youl never ever want to go back to gnome after tasting kontact :)
[06:07] <czert> can i filtrate only sk channels?
[06:10] <jkop> ha
[06:10] <JoHn123> hi
[06:10] <jkop> hi
[06:13] <lwizardl> how do i install rpm files?
[06:14] <czert> when i am searching in channel list can i filter that i want only channels fron slovakia??
[06:14] <czert> allien -i
[06:14] <czert> alien -i
[06:14] <czert> for examle alien -i file.rpm
[06:14] <czert> i think...
[06:14] <czert> :)
[06:15] <sambagirl> i see aliens walking everyday
[06:15] <czert>  when i am searching in channel list can i filter that i want only channels from slovakia??
[06:15] <lwizardl> ok i don't have alien installed yet. sec doing that now
[06:15] <sambagirl> what is  a slovakia?
[06:16] <czert> hh
[06:16] <czert> its a country
[06:16] <sambagirl> no way
[06:16] <czert> yeah
[06:16] <sambagirl> your joking,no?
[06:16] <sambagirl> i thought you were joking :)
[06:16] <czert> its in the middle of europe
[06:16] <berkes> does anyone know in what repos i should look for xine-lib?
[06:16] <czert> shame on you
[06:16] <czert> :)
[06:17] <sambagirl> :)
[06:17] <sambagirl> you meaning checkoslovokia?
[06:17] <czert> grrrrrrrrrrr
[06:17] <czert> NO!
[06:17] <berkes> sambagirl: c'mon....
[06:17] <sambagirl> let me check google.
[06:17] <berkes> sambagirl: you should really open up a wikipedia page before starting a worldwar :)
[06:17] <czert> checkoslovakia split about 15 years ago!
[06:18] <releaselogger> czert: what?
[06:18] <sambagirl> oh really?
[06:18] <releaselogger> eh?
[06:18] <releaselogger> omg!
[06:18] <czert> now there are two states
[06:18] <berkes> hahah
[06:18] <sambagirl> i just finding this out.
[06:18] <czert> czech republic
[06:18] <Chousuke> ;P
[06:18] <czert> and slovakia
[06:18] <sambagirl> ahh ok
[06:18] <releaselogger> no difference?!
[06:18] <sambagirl> oh this had to do with berlin wall thing, no?
[06:18] <berkes> and also: slovakie != slovenia
[06:18] <czert> litle difference in language...
[06:18] <berkes> sambagirl: berlin is in .de :)
[06:19] <czert> but we understand very well to each other
[06:19] <czert> its almoust same...
[06:19] <sambagirl> is all the same..
[06:19] <czert> hh
[06:19] <releaselogger> as I said
[06:19] <releaselogger> no difference
[06:19] <sambagirl> this is where toto was, no?
[06:19] <czert> and slovenia is near italia, and chroatia
[06:20] <releaselogger> slovenia ~ austria
[06:20] <czert> it has nothing to do with slovakia
[06:20] <lwizardl> ok apollon doesn't work
[06:20] <sambagirl> lol
[06:20] <berkes> but, then again, molvania is pretty close, not?
[06:20] <czert> sambagirl: where are you from??
[06:20] <sambagirl> start world war indeed.
[06:21] <sambagirl> originally, el salvador do bahia, brasil
[06:21] <sambagirl> now atlanta georgia usa
[06:21] <czert> and you dont learn this in school?
[06:21] <sambagirl> i have heard of europa but i doubt it really exists.
[06:21] <czert> :D
[06:21] <sambagirl> learn what?
[06:21] <sambagirl> i dont believe things written by man.
[06:22] <czert> about different countries
[06:22] <sambagirl> they are all lies
[06:22] <berkes> releaselogger: do you happen to know where xine-lib can be found?
[06:22] <sambagirl> next you would have me believeing that their are not aliens 
[06:22] <releaselogger> berkes: packages.ubuntu.com
[06:22] <czert> :)
[06:22] <czert> ok fine
[06:22] <czert> now can you tell me how to filter channels only from slovakia??
[06:23] <czert> i want to ask some questions but not in english..
[06:23] <berkes> releaselogger: its not in any official repos, it seems. but xine says it kindof needs it :)
[06:33] <jbever> can anyone help me w/ a UT2004 problem?
[06:33] <Otis> does a P3 at 500 MHz have enough power to run Kubuntu these days ?
[06:33] <musik> !sources
[06:33] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:34] <Otis> I think I got my RIVA TNT2 h/w accel to work and the desktop is still a bit slow
[06:34] <Otis> read "but" instead of "and"
[06:34] <Stele> tht TNT2 is pretty ancient
[06:34] <Otis> yeah but I compiled the drivers from NVidia's site
[06:35] <Otis> and the X log indicates that it's happily loaded the kernel module
[06:35] <Otis> what's a good test to check the 3D accel ? TuxRacer ?
[06:35] <musik> does anyone has this problem that kubuntu often lands up in console mode?
[06:36] <Otis> musik: not me, sorry
[06:36] <hugelmopf> Otis: glxgears i think
[06:36] <musik> :(
[06:36] <Otis> hugelmopf: ok, thx
[06:37] <Otis> schweet, that works
[06:38] <hugelmopf> Otis: try "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark" and it should also show you some fps
[06:38] <hugelmopf> Otis: glxgears will also work w/o 3D accel, but at least for me it stops being fluent quite quickly
[06:38] <Otis> GLCore doesn't load, something to do with it being NVidia drivers .... does this mean OpenGL stuff won't work ?
[06:39] <Otis> glxgears claims it's working at ~210 fps
[06:40] <sambagirl> Will not save configuration.
[06:40] <sambagirl> Configuration file "/home/jazzy/.kde/share/config/konquerorrc" not writable.
[06:40] <sambagirl> Configuration file "/home/jazzy/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals" not writable.
[06:40] <sambagirl> Please contact your system administrator.
[06:40] <sambagirl> why i keep getting this error for everything?
[06:40] <sambagirl> i have a virus?
[06:40] <hugelmopf> seems like (parts of) your homedirectory are not writeable
[06:40] <hugelmopf> no, you don't have a virus
[06:40] <sambagirl> ok
[06:40] <lwizardl> can someone help me with configuring samba (i think is what i need) to share files with windows 
[06:40] <sambagirl> nothing works
[06:41] <sambagirl> i cannot open up a root window
[06:41] <hugelmopf> lwizardl: do you want to share, or only acccess?
[06:41] <hugelmopf> sambagirl: please show the output of "ls -l /home/jazzy/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals"
[06:41] <IULIUS23ro> i have some .swf files what do i have to install to see them?
[06:41] <lwizardl> hugelmopf: well my windows pc in ther other bedroom have music and that that I want to be able to view, listen, or delete
[06:42] <IULIUS23ro> ?
[06:42] <lwizardl> swf are shockwave files
[06:42] <IULIUS23ro> and in kubuntu what do i have to install?
[06:42] <sambagirl> -rw-------  1 jazzy jazzy 4420 2005-12-02 22:59 /home/jazzy/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals
[06:43] <hugelmopf> lwizardl: you might not even have to set up samba for that, but should be able to use the "smb:/" capabilities of konqueror. try to open "smb://nameofotherpc" to see if you can browse it
[06:43] <lwizardl> well on windows i just used a web bowser to view them. have you tried that
[06:43] <gilrim> how do I get xorg to use 1024x768 60hz? The emnu only provides 75...
[06:44] <gilrim> and the monitor freaks out @75hz :P
[06:44] <hugelmopf> sambagirl: you are logged in as jazzy, aren't you? that actually looks ok to me.
[06:45] <sambagirl> this is an old root i had opened up
[06:45] <sambagirl> but i cannot open new ones
[06:45] <hugelmopf> sambagirl: you should not log into KDE as root.
[06:45] <sambagirl> oh really?
[06:45] <sambagirl> ok
[06:46] <hugelmopf> sambagirl: you should log in as jazzy, and whenever you need to do something as root (e.g. use the package manager Adept), it will ask you for your password.
[06:46] <lwizardl> hugelmopf: yeah it fails
[06:46] <sambagirl> Failed to run /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator:
[06:46] <sambagirl>  Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.
[06:46] <sambagirl> see what i mean>? 
[06:46] <sambagirl> i trying to open a root terminal
[06:46] <sambagirl> but not working.
[06:47] <hugelmopf> sambagirl: i don't exactly understand your situation. did you log into KDE as root (in the "Kubuntu" login screen)?
[06:47] <sambagirl> i put in the password yes i suppose i will rebboot
[06:47] <sambagirl> chao
[06:47] <sambagirl> or is there alternative?
[06:47] <hugelmopf> logout and back in?
[06:48] <kkathman> su <username>
[06:48] <sambagirl> ok i typed su jazzy
[06:48] <sambagirl> then what?
[06:49] <kkathman> should be a $ prompt right?
[06:49] <sambagirl> yes born shell
[06:49] <sambagirl> or somethign like that
[06:49] <kkathman> oki doke
[06:49] <kkathman> yer now under your name
[06:49] <sambagirl> oki doke
[06:50] <sambagirl> ok what do i do now?
[06:50] <sambagirl> or is that it?
[06:50] <kkathman> does anyone happen to know of a package that is good for time billing and invoicing?
[06:51] <sambagirl> yes yes
[06:51] <kkathman> sambagirl: I dunno, I came late to the party so dont know what you are doing..sorry
[06:51] <sambagirl> lol
[06:52] <sambagirl> 1 called time matters
[06:52] <kkathman> but it sounded like you wanted to get off root and back to your name :)
[06:52] <sambagirl> assxnet
[06:52] <kkathman> time matters...ok I'll check that out..thanx :)
[06:52] <sambagirl> accountingsoftware411
[06:52] <sambagirl> office tools pro
[06:54] <kkathman> ahh I was looking for a F/OSS solution :)
[06:54] <sambagirl> well go to dmoz.organd choose accounting software
[06:54] <sambagirl> it is all free stuff.
[06:54] <hugelmopf> sambagirl: i meant log out and back in
[06:55] <sambagirl> oh ok
[06:55] <sambagirl> brb
[06:59] <lwizardl> hey anyone haing issues with sharing files with windows here this is great worked perfectly http://kubuntu101.blogspot.com/2005/11/how-to-share-files-using-samba.html
[07:00] <DHGE> kkathman: http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html
[07:07] <sambagirl> i had to mount -n -o remount, rw /
[07:07] <Otis> my OpenGL screensavers run at one frame per minute ... could this be due to GLCore not loading when X starts up ?
[07:08] <Otis> maybe the real question is : can NVidia's drivers emulate OpenGL ?
[07:09] <Otis> I've read in various places that when you have an old Nvidia card (RIVA TNT) GLCore won't load
[07:12] <Otis> if the previews of the OpenGL screensavers are animating ok, does this mean that OpenGL is being emulated properly by my NVidia drivers ?
[07:21] <pussfeller> how come konsole doesn't see all my fonts?
[07:21] <pussfeller> and i might add, some what uncharitable, most of the default fonts don't work right either
[07:25] <jbever> i have a dual monitor setup and was wonderning how to force a full screen game onto one screen instead of being split between them
[07:29] <YazzY> howdy
[07:29] <YazzY> any of you guys installed 3.5 on breezy ?
[07:29] <YazzY> i have problems with kmail 
[07:29] <YazzY> kaddressbook needs libgnokii2 which is not avaliable 
[07:30] <YazzY> and kmail needs libkcal2b which needs kaddressbook
[07:35] <jbever> is there a way to upgrade to kde 3.5 using adept?
[07:36] <PaloDeQueso> How long should KAudioCreator take to rip a standard size cd?
[07:39] <MrGreen> I cannot reboot into kubuntu to finish install, can I use install CD or a liveCD to boot into kubuntu?
[07:39] <PaloDeQueso> How long should KAudioCreator take to rip a standard size cd?
[07:39] <h> my ubuntu fails to start X after I remove xdm package, please help me
[07:41] <MrGreen> h can you not reinstall xdm?
[07:50] <jbever> how do I upgrade to kde 3.5?
[07:50] <jbever> can it be done in adept?
[07:51] <devlin7> to those who tried helping me last week with the mysterious crashing at the same point during the installation...mystery solved... Bad CD-ROM drive lol
[07:54] <kkathman> jbever: wait on 3.5
[07:56] <apachelogger> jbever: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[07:57] <kkathman> apachelogger: he should wait on 3.5
[07:57] <apachelogger> kkathman: you see the 2 numbers before .php :P
[07:57] <kkathman> yes
[07:57] <jbever> is there something wrong w/ 3.5?
[07:57] <kkathman> yes
[07:58] <kkathman> if you want to "tinker"  go ahead
[07:58] <kkathman> but if you want stability, dont
[07:58] <kkathman> its up to you
[07:59] <Aaden> hello
[07:59] <jbever> ok, thanks for the heads up
[07:59] <Aaden> in regards to my fellow irc'ers would you all mind signing apetition?
[07:59] <Aaden> http://www.petitiononline.com/freeaad/petition.html
[07:59] <kkathman> judging by the peeps in the channel, about 90% are experiencing problems, and about 50% are downgrading back
[08:03] <jbever> once you have upgraded a package in adept, how do you downgrade to an older version?
[08:05] <devlin7> Has anyone tried "Prelink" and saw any difference in load times?
[08:09] <gibarian> Hi everyone...I'm having trouble with my network config....the GUI doesn't keep my gateway information, and everytime I start up I need to manually add the default gw...what file do I need to enter this information in?
[08:16] <IULIUS23ro> i have a problem
[08:16] <kkathman> whats the prob?
[08:16] <IULIUS23ro> how do i set up my computer to be a proxy server
[08:16] <IULIUS23ro> for another computer
[08:17] <kkathman> no clue
[08:20] <devlin7> Anyone... I have a Brother multifunction laser printer that does have debian, mandrake, suse drivers available for it. I must have done something wrong cause it doesn't print even tho it tells me the test page has printed. 
[08:20] <IULIUS23ro> how do i set up squid?
[08:22] <devlin7> Once I get this printer issue figured out...bye bye M$ !
[08:28] <jbever> how safe is it to upgrade the kernel through Adept?
[08:29] <h> does anyone know how to copy and paste in nano? Google search returns no good result
[08:31] <MrGreen> Wondered how to finish kubuntu install?
[08:34] <lwizardl> can someone help me with getting java to work correctly on ubuntu
[08:36] <devlin7> MrGreen: what do you mean?
[08:37] <MrGreen> when I reboot I'm dropped to reduced shell ;-(
[08:38] <Drakeson> is it possible to assign a shortcut key to a window?
[08:38] <devlin7> what are your system specs?  ( I'm no expert but willing to try n' help)
[08:38] <MrGreen> errr trying to get kubuntu64 up & running
[08:39] <MrGreen> booting via lilo
[08:39] <Drakeson> MrGreen: xserver problem?
[08:39] <MrGreen> errr no ... initrd.img drops me to reduced shell
[08:39] <MrGreen> busybox...
[08:39] <MrGreen> prompt then stops
[08:39] <MrGreen> can I use install CD or a live CD to boot system
[08:39] <MrGreen> ?
[08:40] <MrGreen> shame becuase cd install was very easy & quick
[08:40] <MrGreen> *because
[08:41] <Drakeson> you can use live cd, then do whatever you like, e.g. mount filesystem ...
[08:41] <MrGreen> ahh ok chroot in
[08:41] <MrGreen> mount --bind /dev /mnt/<mount point> etc etc
[08:41] <Drakeson> but, sorry, I am no expert (not even a power user ;)
[08:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi guys
[08:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> how can i install from svn?
[08:41] <MrGreen> np thanks for your help
[08:48] <devlin7> brb
[08:58] <sven> evening, I forgot the command to set the password for root after installation?
[09:01] <sven> anyone?
[09:03] <cesar> sven: sudo passwd root
[09:14] <YazzY> hi guys
[09:15] <YazzY> which of the flash debs do i need to enable flash player for konqueror?
[09:15] <ClayG> someone through me a bone and tell me the way to telnet into a shell?
[09:15] <ClayG> from 'doze
[09:15] <ClayG> do you have to specify the port?
[09:16] <YazzY> ClayG: you can
[09:16] <ClayG> a buddy is helping me test my ssh connection, and he's in 'doze
[09:16] <YazzY> ClayG: try telnet somehost 23
[09:16] <YazzY> if this is ssh 
[09:16] <ClayG> he wont grab puttyssh so im trying to give him telnet instructions
[09:16] <ClayG> ok thanks 
[09:17] <YazzY> but you will just get banner
[09:17] <YazzY> you will not actually be able to login
[09:43] <bam_> morning
[09:44] <bam_> my sd/cf card slot was recognized and working until I did a apt-get update, fdisk -l doesnt see it, where do I start looking for a problem
[09:49] <sambagirl> Vlc is the best video thing ever created.
[09:50] <jesusfish> anyone here ever successfully build alsa-source?
[09:50] <crimsun> jesusfish: yes, why?
[09:51] <jesusfish> crimsun: I get some weird warning/errors/issues when trying to install it
[09:51] <sambagirl> what is alsa?
[09:51] <jesusfish> crimsun: such as -> WARNING: Module /lib/modules/2.6.12/misc/osslinux.ko ignored, due to loop
[09:54] <rodrigo> Hi, how to install a .bin file? I ve done chmod +x fileName but I dont know how to execute it and if I need any proogram to do it
[09:55] <jesusfish> crimsun: as well, the config script picks the wrong modules dir to install to
[09:58] <crimsun> jesusfish: what in the world are you doing?
[09:58] <jesusfish> crimsun: oh, actually, got the dir issue fixed
[09:58] <Almindor> anyone knows if kubuntu runs ok on a Asus A6U laptop? (with all power managment etc.)
[09:58] <crimsun> sambagirl: it's the sound api base for Linux
[09:58] <jesusfish> crimsun: just gotta see if that fixes the install issue
[09:59] <crimsun> jesusfish: the official Ubuntu packages don't have any dir issues I can see
[09:59] <jesusfish> crimsun: it didn't seem to work if I used make-kpkg, but I'm using debain/rules with setting KVERS and KSRC and that works
[10:03] <jesusfish> crimsun: well, it install without issues, but I get unkown symbol errors when trying to load the driver now
[10:03] <jesusfish> FATAL: Error inserting snd (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-k7/updates/alsa/acore/snd.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[10:13] <jesusfish> crimsun: tried rebooting, still doesn't work
[10:14] <crimsun> jesusfish: where in the world did you get osslinux.ko?
[10:15] <jesusfish> crimsun: might've been there from having OSS installed
[10:15] <crimsun> no
[10:15] <crimsun> unless you mean commercial OSS
[10:15] <jesusfish> crimsun: I don't get the loop errors anymore though
[10:15] <jesusfish> yes
[10:15] <jesusfish> commercial
[10:15] <crimsun> so what's the issue?
[10:16] <jesusfish> crimsun: when I try and load the module I get a huge list of "Unknown symbol" errors
[10:21] <_junior> Hi, you guys! Are (any of) you kubuntu develpoers?
[10:22] <seth_k> what's your question, _junior? somebody may know anyways
[10:24] <_junior> Hi, seth_k, I was wondering about some issues on kubuntu that I, for the first time, see kde steps back from gnome ...
[10:24] <sorush20> !Katapult
[10:24] <ubotu> I guess katapult is an application for KDE designed to provide faster access to applications, bookmarks and other items. Once you've installed it, alt+f2 ->katapult, then hit Alt+Space. When splash screen appears, type the command you want.
[10:25] <_junior> At least, visually ...
[10:26] <_junior> Anyway ... someone could tell me why it's konqueror doesn't have a navigation panel (just to start)?
[10:27] <crimsun> jesusfish: unknown symbols? Do your headers match your running kernel?
[10:27] <jesusfish> crimsun: they should
[10:28] <crimsun> that's never a reassuring statement
[10:28] <jesusfish> how would I check?
[10:28] <jesusfish> crimsun: it built it using the source from the current headers
[10:28] <crimsun> matching /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build ?
[10:29] <jesusfish> crimsun: 
[10:29] <jesusfish> oops
[10:29] <jesusfish> crimsun: ya
[10:29] <crimsun> jesusfish: give me the spew on pastebin.ca
[10:29] <crimsun> brb
[10:30] <sioux> Hi :)
[10:31] <_junior> Hey, you all! Where can we try to make suggestions to kubuntu (shure, trying to make it better)? Anyone knows?
[10:32] <sioux> hi people i am trying this new distro... but apt repos are so few?
[10:34] <sioux> hey people are you there?
[10:35] <insanekane> yep
[10:35] <insanekane> around 142 of them :)
[10:35] <_jonas> I installed Bittorrent using Adept, but I still cant download files from piratebay. What am i doing wrong?
[10:35] <insanekane> _jonas: what *are* you doing ?
[10:35] <insanekane> btdownloadcurses works for me :/
[10:35] <insanekane> :P
[10:36] <sioux> hey who has some apt repos to show me??  :-D
[10:37] <insanekane> sioux: arent breezy main, restricted, universe, multiverse enough ?
[10:37] <_jonas> Inanekane: I am pressing the button "install Package". After that I am logging on to piratebay. Download this file. All that happens is that i get a 30K file on my desktop. I "save to disk". Cant fint bittorrent on my computer so I cant use "Open with"
[10:37] <insanekane> _jonas: get ktorrent
[10:37] <sioux> insakane no! that reps has few packages
[10:38] <insanekane> _jonas: that gives you integration with the web browser itself
[10:38] <sioux> no mmplayer
[10:38] <sioux> no libdvdcss
[10:38] <insanekane> !codecs
[10:38] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[10:38] <sioux> no digikam
[10:38] <sioux> no xine
[10:38] <sioux> and so on for many others
[10:38] <insanekane> !tell sioux about easysource
[10:39] <insanekane> !tell sioux about codecs
[10:39] <crimsun> dude what?
[10:40] <insanekane> sioux: no xine ?? i have xine
[10:40] <crimsun> there are 17000 packages in Kubuntu Breezy.
[10:40] <crimsun> how the heck is that too few?
[10:40] <kkathman> ROFL
[10:40] <kkathman> only 17000 crimsun :)
[10:40] <insanekane> sioux: and i have digikam too
[10:40] <crimsun> geez, you'd think there's a dearth or something :p
[10:40] <insanekane> sioux: i don't think you are using universe/multiverse
[10:40] <kkathman> uhm.. yah
[10:41] <sioux> ok ok friends...  i just installed the distro give me the time to configure all the apt repos :)
[10:42] <insanekane> !apt
[10:42] <ubotu> apt is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[10:42] <crimsun> jesusfish: is this yours? http://pastebin.ca/32423
[10:42] <insanekane> !repos
[10:42] <ubotu> [repos]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[10:42] <jesusfish> crimsun: yup
[10:42] <insanekane> !tel sioux about repos
[10:42] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, insanekane
[10:42] <insanekane> !tell sioux about repos
[10:42] <crimsun> jesusfish: note uname -r
[10:43] <jesusfish> crimsun: huh?
[10:44] <crimsun> jesusfish: what's unclear?
[10:44] <jesusfish> 2.6.12-9-k7
[10:45] <crimsun> about an hour you pasted /lib/modules/2.6.12/misc/osslinux.ko
[10:45] <crimsun> I presume you fixed that
[10:45] <jesusfish> crimsun: yup
[10:45] <crimsun> so now /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build is valid?
[10:46] <jesusfish> crimsun: how do I check that?
[10:46] <crimsun> ls -l
[10:47] <jesusfish> I have that dir
[10:47] <crimsun> it's a symlink
[10:47] <jesusfish> ah, yup, goes to the right header dir in /usr/src
[10:47] <crimsun> now give me dmesg spew
[10:47] <jesusfish> build -> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-k7
[10:47] <crimsun> it should be pretty clear once you look at dmesg
[10:49] <jesusfish> crimsun: it just says unkown symbol
[10:49] <crimsun> jesusfish: did you pastebin it?
[10:49] <jesusfish> crimsun: it's pretty much the same as the other pastebin I sent
[10:50] <crimsun> pastebin it anyway
[10:50] <crimsun> and then pastebin the output from ''modinfo snd''
[10:51] <jesusfish> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/32424
[10:52] <crimsun> and the second part?
[10:52] <jesusfish> http://pastebin.ca/32426
[10:53] <crimsun> hah
[10:53] <crimsun> toldya.
[10:53] <crimsun> "filename:       /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-k7/kernel/sound/alsa/acore/snd.ko"
[10:53] <crimsun> "vermagic:       2.6.12 K7 gcc-3.4"
[10:53] <jesusfish> ya
[10:53] <crimsun> take a wild guess
[10:53] <jesusfish> that's where it should be
[10:54] <crimsun> cf. "note uname -r"
[10:54] <crimsun> 2.6.12-9-k7 != 2.6.12
[10:54] <crimsun> you didn't compile against matching headers
[10:55] <jesusfish> crimsun: k, so what command do I use with debian/rules?
[10:57] <crimsun> you need to explicitly pass KVERS and KSRC
[10:58] <_jonas> insanekane: Sorry for my lack of knowledge, but I am used to Windows. How do I install ktorrent and other programs for that matter. I am used to clicking the hyperlink and then Windows takes care of the rest. But how do I do it using kubuntu?
[10:59] <crimsun> _jonas: just use Adept to install ktorrent
[11:00] <jesusfish> crimsun: k, just did that, same error
[11:00] <_jonas> Crimsun: I tried to look it up but it wasnt on the list?!?!
[11:00] <crimsun> !info ktorrent
[11:00] <ubotu> ktorrent: (BitTorrent client for KDE), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.0-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 325 kB, Installed size: 1248 kB
[11:00] <djk_> _jonas: update your sources.list then..
[11:00] <crimsun> _jonas: do you have universe enabled?
[11:01] <crimsun> jesusfish: so you started from a fresh untar, rebuilt, installed, and ran ''depmod -e''?
[11:01] <jesusfish> no fresh untar
[11:01] <crimsun> ...
[11:02] <_jonas> djk: How? Full upgrade and then OK?
[11:02] <_jonas> Crimsun: how do I enable it...brand new with Kubuntu
[11:02] <djk_> _jonas: no, what i meant was editing your sources.list to include additional repos and afterwards sudo apt-get update...
[11:03] <Knowerrors> Hey all, anybody here ever use dvd swap/trade site like peerflicks? just reading about it and thinking of joining
[11:03] <insanekane> !tell _jonas about repos
[11:03] <djk_> _jonas: read the links ubotu just sent you..
[11:04] <_jonas> Thanks for your help guys...I feel so lost=)
[11:05] <jesusfish> crimsun: k, building over now
[11:06] <jesusfish> crimsun: no good
[11:06] <jesusfish> ...no wonder I usually avoid building these things...
[11:06] <sioux> :))  now I have digikam with universe repo :)) thank you!
[11:07] <gast> hello
[11:07] <gast> is there a way to run multiple instances of kopete?
[11:07] <gast> (on the same desktop ^^)
[11:08] <insanekane> sioux: :)
[11:08] <insanekane> gast: why do you want multiple instances ?
[11:09] <gast> to run my friend's icq as well
[11:09] <[Relic] > where's the master list of things torun at start up?
[11:09] <djk_> gast: can't you just add 2 icq accounts?
[11:10] <gast> i want two seperated lists
[11:10] <[Relic] > gaim handle the other one?
[11:10] <insanekane> gast: why don't you run another session ?
[11:11] <[Relic] > cannot find what is writing to the HD every 5 seconds :(
[11:11] <jesusfish> crimsun: is there a way to like force the version magic?
[11:11] <gast> i considered your workarounds yet
[11:12] <insanekane> gast: K->switch user->start new session
[11:12] <gast> i know, thank you
[11:12] <insanekane> k
[11:12] <gast> so there is no way to run multiple instances of kopete?
[11:12] <insanekane> gast: heck, why don't you try kdesu ?
[11:12] <gast> aah
[11:12] <gast> mom, googling
[11:13] <jesusfish> crimsun: aha!
[11:14] <gast> ok, that's not a clean solution but thank you for the tip
[11:19] <jesusfish> crimsun: I have a feeling the headers are screwed
[11:20] <[Relic] > what is bluez-utils?  I am trying to figure out what I can shut down in hopes of getting the HD to stop running every 5 seconds
[11:28] <sioux> people thanks for now... talk you soon :)
[11:28] <sioux> I go
[11:29] <jesusfish> crimsun: got it
[11:32] <jesusfish> crimsun: headers are messed...2.6.12-8-k7 worked
[11:33] <sorush20> is there any ofline free storage
[11:34] <CVirus> guys when I start a new session of KDE .. the sound server cant be initialized in it as it is used by the first session .. is there a work round for this ?!
[11:35] <insanekane> CVirus: probably set the idle time ?
[11:35] <CVirus> insanekane, nice idea
[11:43] <sorush20> how can I cut up a compressed package into smaller pieces and then email them to my gmail account?
[11:43] <sorush20> is there a program that I can use to email my files for backup to my gmail account?
[11:44] <QMario> How do I use my Linksys WUSB11 on KUbuntu?
[11:45] <Hobbsee> !wireless
[11:46] <Hobbsee> hmmm, wonder why the bot is not responding
[11:46] <QMario> !wireless
[11:46] <QMario> Ubotu
[11:46] <Hobbsee> sorush20: maybe uncompress it, split the files, then compress them again, then send?  there may be a quicker way to do it, i'm not sure
[11:46] <Hobbsee> !ubotu
[11:47] <ubotu> [wireless]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[11:47] <QMario> Hobbsee, so what should I do?
[11:47] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[11:47] <Hobbsee> ah, there we go!
[11:48] <Hobbsee> visit that page?
[11:48] <_jonas> This is the message I get when using Ktorrent and downloading files. What does it mean and how can I get it to work? "Spraren http:// http//tracker.prq.to/announce r nerkopplad. Stoppar nerladdning"
[11:49] <th3l4sts4mur41> qualche italiano :)
[11:49] <QMario> !wireless
[11:49] <ubotu> wireless is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[11:49] <th3l4sts4mur41> !ati
[11:49] <ubotu> rumour has it, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[11:54] <Nakkel> Im having a small problem with video thumbnails on Breezy and KDE 3.5, seems like Im missing /usr/lib/kde3/videothumbnail.so file? Where can I fix that?
[11:54] <Knowerrors> Anyone hear when kde 3.5 will be "ready" for usage, ie get the dependancies and bugs worked out?
[11:54] <gast> hopefully before 6.04
[11:54] <hugelmopf> Knowerrors: I did not have any problems upgrading to 3.5. But I am sure there are bugs, as in every software.
[11:54] <th3l4sts4mur41> se c' qualche italiano [quary me]  :)
[11:55] <hugelmopf> Knowerrors: anything specific that you can use help with?
[11:55] <Knowerrors> hugelmopf: Im using kde 3.5 now, you prob just haven't run into the problems, but theyre not minor things
[11:56] <hugelmopf> only problem so far is that konqueror takes forever to load webpages, while firefox works fine. seems like i have messed up some network setting.
[11:56] <Knowerrors> for example, ivman and kde storage notifications conflicting, I had to uninstall ivman
[11:56] <hugelmopf> i have been wondering what ivman is there for. what are the symptoms of the conflict?
[11:57] <djk_> hugelmopf: ivman handles the automounting..
[11:57] <Knowerrors> first window for kde comes up asking what you want to do, then ivman makes the default action happen as well
[11:57] <Knowerrors> so I had to uninstall ivman to stop this
[11:57] <QMario> !Botsnack
[11:58] <hugelmopf> Knowerrors: kde doesn't need ivman at all? i guess i'll uninstall it as well then
[11:58] <Knowerrors> right
[11:58] <Knowerrors> but the main problem now is kde doesn't automount removable media...
[11:58] <Knowerrors> for example, put in a usb flash drive, a window pops up asking what you want to do
[11:59] <Knowerrors> if you click on open in new window, it mounts it only, and does not browse to the folder for the media device
[11:59] <Knowerrors> you have to manually browse to /media/usbstorage
[12:00] <djk_> Which ati drivers are recommended? The ones from the repo or the ones directly from ati?
[12:00] <Knowerrors> the folder it takes you to first is :/media , which only handles mounting... its really weird
[12:00] <Mardle> What is this Dapper Flight 1?
[12:00] <Mardle> djk_ I use them from ATI
[12:01] <Knowerrors> test bed for next k/ubuntu
[12:01] <Knowerrors> djk_: are you using kde 3.5?
[12:01] <hugelmopf> Knowerrors: sounds indeed buggy. good they are not in the official kubuntu yet :-)
[12:01] <djk_> Knowerrors: no
[12:01] <Mardle> Knowerrors: Is there gonna be a way to upgrade when its released so i dont have to reinstall it once more?
[12:01] <djk_> Mardle: well, did you compare them to the repo ones? are they the same? what's the difference?
[12:02] <Knowerrors> Mardle: yes
[12:02] <Mardle> djk_: I just know when i tried the fglrxinfo i got the mesa respons to it and not the radeon 9800 respons i wanted to run cedega