[12:05] but its stange because in the package you have entry`s not containing the prefix [12:05] they just appy install [12:05] install -m .... [12:05] install knows what the prefix is [12:05] enabling support for xinetd should be done in debian/config so it would work with dpkg-reconfigure [12:07] thats the problem it picks inetd even if its not installed [12:07] and the file for xinetd.d should be in /usr/share/pure-ftpd, the config should just symlink it (and the postinst should remove that symlink) [12:07] thats why i added a defpend to inetd [12:07] postrm* [12:08] ile work it out [12:09] just put up some nice music and im on a role [12:09] r.e.m or bad religion [12:09] Isen't inetd about to get removed? I think I read something like that. [12:10] well its okey because now it depends on xinetd (pre) or secundary inetd [12:11] JohnnyMast: I think the inetd functionality was about to get removed altogether... It is not really worth the trouble with the amount of RAM in current boxes. [12:11] if thats the case [12:11] JohnnyMast: But I might be wrong... could have been a debian or gentoo or fedora list where I read that:-) [12:11] the pure-ftpd has to go on the shuffle [12:11] because [12:12] it as like in debian [12:12] prefers inetd [12:12] the whole package is buid that way [12:12] JohnnyMast: I am on way to many MLs. [12:13] and has a no good switch to do || if inetd_install_faild; then mode=standalone [12:13] its not good in that [12:13] good :) [12:13] JohnnyMast, when you think you are finished please post the complete debdiff pn the pastebin [12:13] it keeps you up-to-daye [12:13] Seveas for sure [12:14] JohnnyMast: Well, what good is that if you can't remember where the fact you just learned belongs to? [12:15] its not the orgin but knowing it is better [12:15] i forgot where my shools where [12:15] no way [12:15] but i know what i learned [12:15] :) [12:15] hungers fact is useless, since he doesn't know where it's from (not ubuntu anyway) [12:16] so knowing the origin is important :) [12:17] hmm yeah but i didnt read it in ubuntu eighter so === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-084-059-083-177.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:25] forgot to add pure-ftpd-common.xinetd to pure-ftpd-common.preinst [12:25] azeem: around ? === Sepheebear [n=SepheeBe@cpe-68-175-48-109.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ppp-69-239-159-45.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:07] siretart: just so you know, your debian/control in mplayer-skins in not UTF-8 === Mirno [n=mirspcm@office.spcmnet.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:10] or rather [01:10] it doesn't open as UTF8 [01:10] wonder why === bpuccio [n=brian@ool-457afde7.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theCore [n=ubuntu@Toronto-HSE-ppp3714657.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:58] ok, for the packaging guide do you guys recommend apt-get or aptitude for installing packages? === minghua doesn't see any advantage apt-get has over aptitude [01:59] but then again, my opinion is biased as I'm an aptitude advocator [01:59] aptitude automatically installs Recommends === theCore [n=ubuntu@Toronto-HSE-ppp3714657.sympatico.ca] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [02:00] then recomment using aptitude -R/--without-recommends in your doc === theCore [n=ubuntu@Toronto-HSE-ppp3714657.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:00] LaserJock, that's configurable [02:00] s/recomment/recommend/ [02:01] LaserJock: The only problem I can see is that aptitude 0.4 is still a little beta-ish and has bugs [02:01] oh, I'm not against aptitude but I just want to use something that will be best for readers [02:01] but then again, upstream is fixing them in a fast pace [02:02] minghua: I was thinking installing Recommends was a positive [02:02] LaserJock: just tell them the --without-recommends and the /etc/apt/apt.conf setting at the first place, and I think they'll love it === minghua doesn't think so [02:03] LaserJock: the problem is that quite a lot of Debian packages are misusing the Recommends: section [02:03] LaserJock: many of those should be Suggests: instead [02:04] so then apt-get might be an advantage since you don't have to explain what -R is for, etc. [02:04] LaserJock: yeah, you can say so :-) === Kyral [n=kyral@hamlin-166-12336.hamlin.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:16] lifeless: now === manicka [n=manicka@203-158-39-222.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:22] I guess Recommends should list packages that directly add fonctionalities to the program === wjb [n=warren@c220-237-178-175.lowrp1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sephee [n=SepheeBe@cpe-68-175-48-109.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === blablablabla [n=maniac@i3ED6E3C9.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Trashcan [n=matt@ip68-2-208-158.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === SloMoSnail [n=slomo@p5487EE1B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theCore [n=ubuntu@Toronto-HSE-ppp3714657.sympatico.ca] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [03:20] I feel dirty [03:20] I used Checkinstall to make a local package === LaserJock slaps Kyral back into MOTU land ;-) [03:22] Wait [03:22] I can't use Checkinstall [03:22] HA! [03:22] VICTORY IS MINE! === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:27] hmm [03:27] I program I am trying to run wants libwx_gtk2u_xrc-2.5 [03:28] is it alright to just symlink the libwx_gtk2u_xrc-2.6 to it? [03:34] ... [03:34] sure ;-) [03:34] this stupid program is using 2.5 of wxwidgets [03:34] STABBITY [03:34] STABBITY!!! [03:34] Kyral: that's crappy [03:34] I know I know [03:34] I'm symlinking [03:36] Or can I download libwxgtk2.5 === sephee [n=SepheeBe@cpe-68-175-48-109.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janm [n=jm__@ppp32C2.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:42] ...this angers me [03:44] I have to compile 2.5 of wxwidgets === bmonty [n=bmontgom@wsip-68-15-230-31.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.38] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:50] hi bmonty [03:50] hey LaserJock [03:51] Kyral: that's very bad; an RC-level bug should be filed on it. Which is it? [03:52] Its not a Debian bug [03:52] Its a program out of Debian [03:52] I was just venting :P [03:52] They gave the sourcecode to wxwidgets 2.5 [03:53] for the most part, most things can be carried forward to 2.6 [03:53] there's not _too_ much breakage [03:56] Should I make this..lol [03:56] waste.sourceforge.net [03:58] bmonty: how's the kiddo? [03:59] LaserJock: he is making life interesting :) [03:59] bmonty: I'm sure [04:05] Friend wants to know if Waste is okay to package [04:05] along with WxWidgets 2.5 [04:05] absolutely not. [04:06] thats what I thought [04:06] wxwidgets 2.5 will not be packaged [04:06] Waste is fine _without_ wxwidgets2.5 [04:06] it's the unstable version of 2.6 [04:06] Yah well, I have no clue how to change the sourcecode to use 2.6 [04:07] note also that wxwidgets2.5 was ripped out of Debian Sarge prior to its release for being both non-free in its license and for being horribly broken according to its Debian maintainer (and upstream developer) [04:07] i remember that, i had to pluck things from either hoary or warty to get 2.5 [04:07] the only reason it remained in Hoary is that we weren't quick enough === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.38] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ppp-69-239-159-45.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [04:27] my friend was amused that you objected to WxWidgets instead of WASTE :P === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ppp-69-239-159-45.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob1 [n=rob@ubuntu/member/rob1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === seth_k [n=seth@asmallorange.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === irvin [n=irvin@203.215.115.150] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:37] masters of the universe [05:38] i want to download all the packages for breezy from archive.ubuntu.com but i don't know which one to get.. dists/breezy or /pool [05:39] all of them? [05:39] irvin: there maybe 120G space need [05:40] i want to make a dvd for all the packages and distribute them among the broaband-impared [05:43] but i want the binary packages only for i386 [05:44] irvin: can't you use the DVD images? [05:48] bmonty: he need all bainary package of i386 [05:48] irvin: Look into debmirror. [05:48] To download them at least. === uniq [n=frode@213.184.199.55] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-27-207.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@cpe-69-205-38-37.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ppp-69-239-159-45.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Fuddl [n=fuddl@2001:6f8:9cf:0:20f:eaff:fe4d:d7b7] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:34] can someone test something in a package? [07:34] !info wifi-radar === mmtb [n=mmtb@dyn91.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === seth_k [n=seth@asmallorange.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mmtb [n=mmtb@dyn91.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob1 [n=rob@ubuntu/member/rob1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-27-207.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:30] hello all :) === _maydayjay_ [n=maydayja@ip101109.101.nas.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:37] morning zakame [08:37] zakame: congrets for being approved as a motu, just saw the motu report [08:38] sivang: thanks very much! :) [08:38] how's everything? [08:39] zakame: pretty fine, LaserJock was trying to help me walkthrough a merge , are you able to? [08:39] (err, I may need to reset my lpbugs.conf file again here and checkout again the motu-tools archive) [08:41] what part of the process are you in now? [08:43] zakame: I will be ready for opening and assigning the merge bug to me in a couple of minutes. As this is not my personal workstation I'l need to reset my lpbugs.conf here [08:43] ooh [08:44] actually, coming to think of it - I also need a pbuilder right? [08:44] (besides a chroot) [08:45] its recommended :) though if you say that's not your personal machine, you can skip that [08:45] but the chroot's needed === bojan [n=bojan@dsl-151-181.utaonline.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:45] hi! [08:45] hey bojan :) [08:45] ok, thenm I'll skip the pbuilder. I'll just work inside the chroot [08:46] hi zakame. how are you? [08:46] bojan: just hanging out for a while :) will be hearing mass a bit later [08:55] bbl === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-27-207.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TheMuso [n=luke@dsl-202-173-132-131.nsw.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:16] anybody here ? :) [09:17] I wonder why some of the items in http://tiber.tauware.de/~sistpoty/MoM/index.py?state=new are not found when clicked through to scott's folder === trulux [n=lorenzo@unaffiliated/trulux] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pef [n=loic@ubuntu/member/pef] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chriszero [i=Christia@M2469P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chris_zero [i=Christia@M2469P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bojan [n=bojan@dsl-151-181.utaonline.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bojan [n=bojan@dsl-151-181.utaonline.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-27-207.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:49] why does the pkge xfwm4 has so many /usr/share/applications/xfce*.desktop files? [10:52] umm well .. why can't all those xfce*.desktop file be substituted with xfce-settings-manager.desktop ? === StevenK [n=stevenk@14.5.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob1 [n=rob@ubuntu/member/rob1] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:21] morning [11:21] morning siretart [11:21] nomed: you should ask janimo [11:21] huhu ajmitch [11:22] ok thanks [11:22] i'll post a message to ubuntu-motu list === StevenK waves to ajmitch. [11:22] hi StevenK [11:23] ajmitch: So, if I point you to a debdiff, will you look over it for me? [11:23] it's just that i have the settings menu section that contains just xfce stuff and takes all the screen [11:23] it's really a long list [11:23] StevenK: right now? I could give it a quick glance but I'll be sleeping soon [11:24] ajmitch: Hrm. It's moin, and the _merged.debdiff is 13Mb, so lets leave it until tomorrow. :-) [11:26] youch [11:26] why so large? [11:26] what ubuntu changes were made in the past that bloat it out? [11:27] A shedload of files had their ^M's removed. [11:27] aha [11:27] evil [11:27] And a shedload of i18n stuff. [11:27] -rw-r--r-- 1 steven users 7.6M 2005-12-04 12:49 debian/patches/203_ubuntu_i18n.patch === ajmitch cries [11:27] the debian debdiff is 20M by itself === ajmitch is glad he isn't in .au for Christmas this year [11:28] it's warm enough here [11:28] Yah. It was bloody 32C here today. [11:28] probably only about mid 20s here [11:28] You don't have the Weather applet? :-) [11:29] it doesn't show dunedin, last I looked :) [11:29] Ah. [11:29] -rw-r--r-- 1 steven users 8.1M 2005-12-04 21:28 moin_1.3.5-1ubuntu1.debdiff [11:29] Given most of that has to be the 7.6Mb 203_ubuntu_i18n.patch, that's pretty good. [11:30] boah, and here it is snowing, and the streets are damn icy... [11:30] 23C here [11:30] puh [11:30] so my guess wasn't too far off [11:31] I'd much prefer 23C. === ajmitch spent most of november & december in melbourne last year [11:31] After about 29C, my Athlon starts to get a little too warm, and it misbehaves. [11:31] which was a bit warmer than dunedin [11:32] Yes, but Melbourne is strange. === siretart wonders if he should upgrade his gnome to dapper.. [11:32] so is dunedin :) === zyga [n=zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === elektranox [n=elektran@p5481FC53.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === elektranox [n=elektran@p5481FC53.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Danten [n=danten@h174n9c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #Ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@gra86-1-82-239-88-236.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:08] azeem: opensync packaging === raphink [n=raphink@gra86-1-82-239-88-236.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:09] azeem: I've an ITP ready to file .. [12:10] lifeless: ajmitch said he was interested as well [12:10] I have enough to do already, so please go forward :) [12:12] ;) [12:12] I've emailed the guy who did the interim package [12:12] but more important: [12:12] how to split it: [12:13] I am thinking of: [12:13] opensync + opensync-dev [12:13] one package per plugin [12:13] multisync [12:13] I'm proposing to maintain opensync & opensync-dev in debian, and perhaps one or two of the plugins (i.e. the python one) [12:14] hey lifeless :) [12:15] hey sivang [12:15] sivang: did you see the interfaceverfication paper/draft ? === markuman [n=supermar@p50924A14.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:16] lifeless: I have started reading it, but then had to get to something else. actually now that you have reminded me of it - I will go finish reading it. [12:17] lifeless: multisync is still its own project/source package, right? [12:18] there is also a KDE thingy now, which seems to get hypde [12:18] hyped [12:25] azeem: yes [12:25] the kde thing is a kde specific ui, like multisync is just ui now [12:25] ok [12:25] the question will be what to do with multisync in Debian [12:26] right [12:26] I don't particularly 'get' X build deps etc [12:26] so I don't want to package multisync ;) [12:27] I figure if I get the engine packaging right, you can drop in a new multisync anytime. === mmtb [n=mmtb@dxl84.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:27] I mean, it is also a social problem, because the maintainer is MIA. And whether to just have multisync-0.9x supersede 0.8x with the same source package, or have a new source package [12:27] ok, I'll think of that === MagnusR [n=magru@85.194.14.142] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sivang watches http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1165754797197197496&q=ubuntu === maradong [n=bhentges@213.47.179.227] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:35] Marks keynote is quite interesting. [12:37] hehe, humor is more important then trademarks :) [12:37] Currently, the playback feature of Google Video isn't available in your country. [12:37] :( :( [12:37] raphink: where are you in? [12:38] what's wrong with my country ? :( [12:38] France [12:38] ! [12:38] it's not really like I'm in the middle of nowhere ;) [12:38] no idea, I hadn't a clue this google video has anything to do with where you are in [12:39] hehe [12:39] hey guys [12:39] We hope to make this feature available more widely in the future, and we really appreciate your patience. [12:39] anyone happens to have the whole dapper repo around? [12:39] pff [12:39] what do you mean zyga ? [12:39] zyga: I once prepared one, it took about a day to get it all on disk [12:40] raphink: each .deb from dapper [12:40] ok [12:40] :) [12:40] (like someone with ro access to archive.ubuntu.com maybe?) [12:40] what for zyga ? [12:41] raphink: running three python scripts that extract data for command-not-found [12:41] one scans for +x files, other scans for symlinks and the last reads update-alternatives in postinst === TMM [n=hp@c51471f2c.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:43] what do you use that for zyga ? [12:43] raphink: for the command-not-found specs [12:43] raphink: www.suxx.pl/blog (latest post) [12:44] so this is a tool to apply to scripts to check if it might generate `command not found' ? [12:44] no no [12:44] it's a tool that gathers all commands to build a database [12:45] hmm [12:45] and works as a deamon on the command prompt [12:45] so that when you ask to run foo and foo is not around bash will tell you 'ah, foo isn't here but you can install it by typing apt-get install blah' [12:45] to check what is typed, grep it and check if the app does exist or not [12:45] no :) [12:45] so if it doesn't, it explains how to install it [12:45] right? [12:45] lol [12:45] it is using bash's command_not_found hook [12:45] ok [12:46] but it must be a deamon, no? [12:46] a deamon would smell like a keylogger ;] [12:46] no, it's only executed when a command is not found [12:46] it's pretty fast [12:46] hmm ok [12:46] :) [12:46] so when I type sl instead of ls it tells me I can install sl ... :) [12:46] so you have to hack the command-no-fond bash sub [12:47] actually we've hacked bash to support that (or mvo did, I just made minor adjustmennt) [12:47] I wrote a program that knows what to suggest [12:47] and a set of data extractors [12:47] good :) [12:47] but right now I need to run all scripts over again [12:47] you'll need a big database to support all commands in Debian-like systems [12:47] especially the third script, the one that reads alternatives [12:47] nah [12:47] mhm [12:48] <0.5M of plain text [12:48] about 4 when in dbm format [12:48] ok :) [12:48] well it's still a big work ;) [12:48] how so? [12:48] It's automated [12:48] oh ok :) [12:48] all I need is a person with all the debs [12:48] well I was just seeing about the notepad one [12:48] and wonderinf how this can be automated ;) [12:48] that was an example of suggestions [12:48] sivang: I've updated that document http://people.ubuntu.com/~robertc/interfaceverification.txt [12:48] ok [12:48] suggestions are of cours manual :) [12:49] sure [12:49] can't you get the whole list of packages from apt-get? [12:49] if it's just the whole list that you want [12:50] or on packages.ubuntu.com maybe [12:50] no I cannot [12:50] I need to scan each package [12:50] ok [12:50] what do you need to scan in packages? [12:51] lifeless: ah ok, then I'm to it as soon as I finish the video. Thanks for the notification. [12:51] raphink: symlinks, +x files and postinst scripts === raphink is thinking whether it could be done another way, and can't think of any other way ;) [12:52] no it cannot :) [12:52] hehe [12:52] you might try to contact the maintainer of an ubuntu mirror [12:53] see if he's willing to run your scripts === sivang notes this is a sunday :-) [12:53] sivang: yes I noted it too. Rainy sunday :( [12:53] raphink: I'll wait till monday, mvo has that access :) [12:53] raphink: here is sunny and hot :) [12:53] good for you sivang :D [12:54] raphink: actually, if this continues that way - I suspect we're in for some drout [12:54] :s [01:01] lifeless: btw, I'm curious - why did you metnion db2 as an example ? :) === Fuddl [n=fuddl@2001:6f8:9cf:0:20f:eaff:fe4d:d7b7] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:14] big database :) [01:19] lifeless: right, and ___SLOW___ mostly on "domestic" hardware :) [01:19] hi everybody :) [01:20] hey slomo , 'sup? === mbreit [n=mo@dslb-082-083-011-043.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:23] hi guys [01:23] sivang: erm [01:23] sivang: *any* disk based db is slow [01:23] hi sivang, mbreit [01:23] relative to memory access [01:24] lifeless: true, but comparing db2 that's not natively running on the disk (e.g. has its own partition) and other FOSS db's in the same approach, the latter mostly wins over my setup here. === herve [n=hcauweli@ubuntu/member/herve] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:26] hello [01:27] lifeless: suprisingly enough, in order to get the same redundency you get out of ext3 , in IBM's AIX is approx two times slower compared to ext3. [01:30] sivang: the point is to not compare apples to apples [01:30] but to check that an apple and an orange are both fruit [01:30] and then use the cheaper fruit [01:30] the lp test suite for instance [01:31] takes 30+ minutes to run [01:31] nearly 6 minutes of that is in python [01:31] the rest is outside python - i.e. postgresql [01:31] 6 minutes is not great, but we can work on that. 30 minutes is terrible. === mmtb_ [n=mmtb@dyg145.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-201-251.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mmtb_ is now known as mmtb === TMM [n=hp@c51471f2c.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:47] lifeless: Heh, I love that. "but to check that an apple and an orange are both fruit" === ompaul [n=ompaul@212.2.182.113] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hunger [n=hunger@p54A606CB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === oris_wolfbane [n=oris@82-38-121-195.cable.ubr01.hali.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:58] StevenK: thanks [01:58] ... but did it make sense ? === trulux [n=lorenzo@unaffiliated/trulux] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:03] <\sh> much better then "that a tomatoe and a potatoe are both fruits" is much better...and makes more sense...but it's not obvious, because many people are thinking, that a tomatoe and a potatoe are vegetables...which are not [02:04] <\sh> oh well...\sh work on your grammar...and think straight === sivang takes that recommendation for himself as well [02:06] <\sh> sivang: quite a problem this morning..we came back this morning around 1 or so from the "Essener Linux Tage" see planet :) [02:07] \sh: ah, well - good for you :) I wish I had gone to a linux event on my weekend :) === uniq [n=frode@213.184.199.55] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:08] <\sh> sivang: was quite ok...gentoo and ubuntu were sitting together [02:08] \sh: hehe, so I take it you enjoyed yourself [02:08] <\sh> I met some interesting people there... [02:09] \sh: like whom? [02:09] <\sh> sivang: well 1/4 of the german ubuntu-dev team were enjoying [02:10] <\sh> one guy from credative, a linux company here in my area..doing some goverment linux stuff [02:10] Chris Halls? [02:10] <\sh> another company who are delivering small linux clients ... via chipset etc. [02:10] cool [02:10] Chris is in the .uk, I thought [02:11] ah right [02:11] I forgot [02:11] azeem: I think he is also related to credative no? [02:11] sivang: yeah, he runs the .uk branch [02:13] <\sh> so...another coffee from my new ubuntu coffee mug :) [02:14] so many linux events in germany, I wish I could visit only quarter of them :) [02:17] <\sh> sivang: most of them are community work...LWE or Linuxtag is more professional [02:17] \sh: so Essener Linux Tage is also community? [02:19] <\sh> sivang: looked like :) but for the first time quite prof. but not many projects, ubuntu, gentoo, debian, skolinux, gnome and some other lugs === StevenK waves at \sh. [02:20] <\sh> moins StevenK === abelcheung [n=abelcheu@n219079012150.netvigator.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:40] \sh: Can you request a sync of pgadmin3. I've checked the _merged.debdiff which is just debian/changelog stuff, and it builds, installs and works fine in a dapper chroot. [02:41] <\sh> StevenK: did they change the build-dep from libwxgtk-2.5 to 2.6? [02:42] <\sh> ah I see now.....yes [02:42] Yup. I checked that bit. [02:42] \sh: Danke [02:43] <\sh> StevenK: wow..Bitte Schoen :) [02:44] Not so much. It's the only word I know. :-) [02:44] <\sh> StevenK: bitte schoen is something like "You're Welcome" [02:44] \sh: Ah. [02:45] schoen? [02:45] :P [02:45] schn [02:45] i hope:) [02:46] no? [02:46] sch?n is hard to type [02:46] hmm [02:46] so is double s [02:47] <\sh> well...my uk keyboard doesn't have umlauts :) [02:47] true:) [02:47] but schoen means shoe in dutch :P just looks wierd:P [02:47] my uk keyboard is in en_US :) [02:47] Hrm. irssi in screen in Gnome terminal doesn't like the UTF-8 that is flying around. [02:48] you have to enable utf in screen and irssi [02:49] Help? :-) [02:51] Right. Detached and added -U to screen. [02:51] http://jerakeen.org/blog/2005/06/23/screen-irssi-utf8 [02:52] I think I've sorted out screen. man irssi didn't help. [02:52] either restart screen with -U [02:52] or .ctrl-a:utf8 on. on your irc window [02:52] first comment [02:52] Blah. irssi doesn't like term_type [02:53] Right. Can someone throw utf-8 at the channel? [02:56] <\sh> utf-8 [02:56] <\sh> ,) === StevenK pokes his tongue out at \sh. [02:58] StevenK: [03:00] Awww. It still doesn't work. [03:00] Ah, well. Off to bed for me. [03:00] StevenK: [03:01] ah - to late. /me wonders why his connections has serious lag tonight [03:04] Yagisan: I saw it, but it didn't work. === StevenK [n=stevenk@14.5.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === oris_wolfbane [n=oris@82-38-121-195.cable.ubr01.hali.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bojan [n=bojan@dsl-151-181.utaonline.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mirno [n=mirspcm@office.spcmnet.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mmtb [n=mmtb@dyg145.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-0244.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jason [n=jason@dhcp0534.hrn.resnet.group.upenn.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fmes [n=fmes@dslb-082-083-012-037.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Sepheebear [n=SepheeBe@cpe-68-175-48-109.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bmonty [n=bmontgom@wsip-68-15-230-31.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:04] good morning! [05:07] hi bmonty :) [05:07] hey slomo [05:09] <\sh> re [05:10] would you guys mind taking a look at something I have been working on? [05:11] I have a bazaar archive at: http://www.montynet.org/bzr/ubuntu-spy [05:12] what does it do? ;) [05:12] 403 [05:13] fixed it, sorry [05:14] it grabs a list of ubuntu mirrors and then you can test them to find the fastest one [05:14] eventually it will write your sources.list for you, but I don't have that working yet === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:16] <\sh> moins ogra [05:16] *yawn* [05:17] <\sh> how are u testing ? [05:17] \sh, thanks for the pics :) [05:17] <\sh> ogra: u found it on my gallery? [05:17] sure [05:17] already imported in my f-spot :) [05:17] hey ogra [05:17] ogra: how's stuff? :) [05:18] tired [05:18] ogra: working hard on edubuntu ? [05:18] <\sh> ogra: and btw...I owe me one bottle of bacardi gold :) [05:18] <\sh> ogra: http://www.python.org/doc/2.4.2/lib/module-xml.parsers.expat.html [05:18] <\sh> s/I/you/ [05:18] hmm, indeed :) [05:18] <\sh> heheh [05:19] \sh: what did you made a bet about? [05:19] if xml was in the python std lib [05:19] <\sh> 13.5 xml.parsers.expat -- Fast XML parsing using Expat [05:19] <\sh> [05:19] <\sh> New in version 2.0. [05:20] ogra: but that's what "batteries included" is all about :) [05:20] <\sh> waiting now for my food [05:20] <\sh> bmonty: there is a stop button missing :) === m_breit [n=mo@dslb-082-083-011-043.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:21] edubuntu is on slashdot :) [05:21] yeah, and there isn't any error checking yet :) [05:21] <\sh> ogra: woot? [05:21] yup, yesterday ... [05:21] nearly off the frontpage again [05:22] <\sh> yeah...have it [05:22] <\sh> do u see an increase of downloads? :) [05:24] dunno, i have no stats handy [05:24]