[12:00] <kbrooks> whats resgen.exe
[12:00] <zorba64> MenZa`: sudo apt-cache search libjpeg
[12:00] <MenZa`> libjpeg-progs
[12:00] <MenZa`> libjpeg62 libjpeg-dev imgsizer
[12:00] <MenZa`> that's what I get
[12:01] <MenZa`> progs?
[12:01] <zorba64> MenZa`: you need libjpeg-dev
[12:01] <MenZa`> zorba64: then make?
[12:01] <odat> my fstab say this about the drive "/dev/hdb1       /Slave          ext3    defaults        0       2"
[12:02] <MenZa`> ./configure then make, zorba64 ?
[12:02] <odat> how do i make get permissions to read and write on this drive?
[12:02] <Marsh> hi, I'm about to make the change to ubuntu from windows, what support is there for wifi? im aware its limited but will buy a new card if needed
[12:02] <ltibor65> nickrud, the last two lines of source.list: deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
[12:02] <ltibor65>  deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
[12:02] <zorba64> MenZa`: start ./configure again and see if it completes
[12:02] <DuDE27> Marsh
[12:02] <owner989> there is a wifi addon marsh
[12:02] <DuDE27> tell us what card you have
[12:03] <nickrud> ltibor65, you need  deb http://hu.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse uncommented
[12:03] <slew> does anyone know if there is a gnome alternative to karamba?
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> wifi support in linux is slowly gaining ground. :P
[12:03] <Marsh> belkin, i sec and ill get more info
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> slew,  'gdesklets'
 does anyone know if there is a gnome alternative to karamba? <-- gdesklets?
[12:03] <mycket> @odat: try adding ",rw" after "defaults" (whithout quotes)
[12:03] <DuDE27> google would tell you that too ;)
[12:03] <slew> thanks both
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> gdesklets, and karamba - more eye candy! :P
[12:03] <Dr_Acemaster> how does one replace grub w/ lilo?
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> i got a similer program under windows also.
[12:04] <Dr_Willis> Dr_Acemaster,  install lilo, edit the lilo.conf, run lilo
[12:04] <slew> DuDE27, heh thanks
[12:04] <Dr_Willis> Dr_Acemaster,  but grub has lilo beat in soooo many ways.
[12:04] <odat> mycket, does that actually work or is it just a guess?
[12:04] <Marsh> DuDE27: Belkin wireless 54mbps desktop adaptor
[12:04] <Dr_Acemaster> Dr_Willis: please enlighten me
[12:04] <Dr_Acemaster> I for one like the looks of lilo MUCH better
[12:04] <Dr_Acemaster> black and white text vs GUI
[12:04] <nickrud> Dr_Willis, true, except when your bios sucks
[12:04] <rain> rofl, i wont name names, but a friend of mine got his 55 discs in the mail, he is only one person....abuse of the system...
[12:05] <Dr_Willis> enlightien you in what way?
[12:05] <nickrud> rain, tell him to drop about 20 at a library: poof, no more abuse :)
[12:05] <Dr_Acemaster> Dr_Willis: how grub is better than lilo
[12:05] <rain> nickrud: oh im sure he will spread them out, he is giving a few to me haha
[12:05] <ltibor65> nickrud, do I need to paste that line into source.list?
[12:05] <Dr_Willis> Dr_Acemaster,  try them both... and learn them both.. and you will perfer grub is  the main way. Grub can do so much more.
[12:06] <djk_> when can one start ordering dapper cds?
[12:06] <zorba64> MenZa`: djk_  when it says you can :)
[12:06] <nickrud> ltibor65, make yours look just like http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325
[12:07] <djk_> zorba64: thanks captain obvious
[12:07] <Dr_Acemaster> Dr_Willis: well I'm still relatively new to linux, but what more does a loader do than load an os, and they both do that, and lilo looks a whole lot better
[12:07] <zorba64> djk_: no probs soldier
[12:07] <MenZa`> zorba64: woops, was afk
[12:07] <nelposto> hey guys.. n00b question today... i was playing around with boot up config and I accidently dropped gdm from startup.. I was wondering, at what runlevel(s) should gdm be ticked?
[12:07] <djk_> zorba64: goody then :)
[12:07] <NetGrunt> hi there ubuntuers!
[12:07] <nickrud> Dr_Acemaster, actually, grub has a lot of extra functionality over lilo; take a look at the documentation.
[12:08] <Dr_Willis> Dr_Acemaster,  looks? they both just put up a menu. thtas all there is to looks.
[12:08] <zorba64> MenZa`: yep...sorry...slip between brain and keyboard
[12:08] <DuDE27> Marsh
[12:08] <DuDE27> should work with ndiswrapper
[12:08] <NetGrunt> Does anybody know how can I configure my ubuntu 5.10 XWindows so that the CLIPBOARD behaves exactly like m$oft windows one ? Thanks
[12:08] <Dr_Willis> Thing to rember about Grub  - it starts numbering your drives at 0 (zero) :P
[12:08] <MenZa`> zorba64: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5356
[12:08] <NetGrunt> I hate that 2 buffers thing
[12:08] <Dr_Willis> NetGrunt,  2 buffers?
[12:08] <Dr_Acemaster> well black and white text vs GUI
[12:08] <NetGrunt> yes dr willis
[12:08] <existance> Can anyone help me in a crusade to get both my monitors working?
[12:08] <Dr_Willis> NetGrunt,  2 buffers??
[12:08] <NetGrunt> there's two clipboards in xwindows
[12:08] <Dr_Willis> :P
[12:08] <owner989> existance what video card do you have
[12:09] <nickrud> Dr_Acemaster, you can get b&w with grub too. No issue.
[12:09] <Dr_Willis> NetGrunt,  never noticed. i guess.
[12:09] <Dr_Acemaster> nickrud: I don't want black and white
[12:09] <gand_> I've installed mysql but it don't start
[12:09] <MickMcMack> RACISM! :O
[12:09] <existance> owner989, the AGP is Radeon 9800, and the PCI is Gefore MX 4000
[12:09] <MenZa`> brb
[12:09] <zorba64> MenZa`: checking for gzsetparams in -lz... no
[12:09] <zorba64> configure: error: *** GPLFLash requires libz.
[12:09] <NetGrunt> Dr_Willis, or at least there used to be two ... i'm really lost in the changes from xfree to xorg
[12:09] <crimsun> zlib1g-dev
[12:09] <owner989> two cards lol
[12:09] <gand_> I get this error: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)'
[12:09] <nickrud> Dr_Acemaster, then, you can get a pretty grub splash screen too. no issue.
[12:09] <Dr_Acemaster> nickrud: ok how do I do that?
[12:09] <existance> owner989, ubuntu defaulted to displaying on the PCI card for some reason
[12:09] <ltibor65> nickrud, I sent the source.list
[12:10] <mycket> @odat i don't have another partition so its just a guess. but theres a fstab manpage and a mount manpage they sould help
[12:10] <Dr_Willis> NetGrunt,  or ive used them for so long.. OH wait.. you are refering to how GNOME has its "cut/paste" buffer - vs X's normal "select/middle click" pasting?
[12:10] <owner989> yeah you need to insall the ati drivers
[12:10] <zorba64> MenZa`: you will have to ride the same merry-go-round til you have all you need and it stops erroring out
[12:10] <owner989> fglrx
[12:10] <MenZa`> well, I don't know how to decipher this
[12:10] <MenZa`> Quite new to Linux
[12:10] <existance> owner989, how can i install fglrx without uninstalling the nvidia drivers?
[12:10] <blulin> hello
[12:10] <MenZa`> gzparams in -lz
[12:10] <existance> !ati
[12:10] <nickrud> Dr_Acemaster, I have splashimage=(hd1,1)/boot/grub/29964-ubuntuEL.xpm.gz
[12:10] <ubotu> hmm... ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[12:10] <nickrud>  in my menu.lst
[12:11] <MenZa`> that would be sudo apt-cache search gzparams ?
[12:11] <NetGrunt> Dr_Willis, yes
[12:11] <MenZa`> or sudo apt-cache search gzparams -lz ?
[12:11] <Red-Sox> is there a pager for windows?
[12:11] <Red-Sox> widows*
[12:11] <nickrud> not the one I like, but kubuntu is trying to take over the world, & I'm humoring them :)
[12:11] <Dr_Acemaster> nickrud: so is that included in the ubuntu install?
[12:11] <owner989> yes you need to get the restricted modules for your kernel
[12:11] <Dr_Willis> NetGrunt,  err... its the same buffer as far as i can tell. :P using xfce here however at the moment
[12:11] <MenZa`> owner989: talking to me :P?
[12:11] <NetGrunt> dr_willis, hold on, i will send you an URL in which it's explained
[12:11] <NetGrunt> Dr_Willis, coz I don't remember the technical details
[12:11] <owner989> lol that was meant for existance
[12:11] <existance> owner989, there are ATI and nvidia restricted packages?
[12:12] <owner989> yes existance
[12:12] <szronik> I was trying to install wine, but there is an error with the package manager because of gnucash. I can't even uninstall gnucash now because it tells me that gnucash has unmet dependencies, depends on libofx2. What's the workaround here?
[12:12] <owner989> its one package
[12:12] <owner989> but it depends on what kernel you are running
[12:12] <Dr_Acemaster> nickrud: or where do I get a look at some samples?
[12:12] <owner989> existance you can also try easy ubuntu
[12:13] <owner989> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=64629&highlight=ati+driver
[12:13] <owner989> it installs ati drivers
[12:13] <odat> i have a slave drive that i cannot access and need help
[12:13] <MenZa`> zorba64 ?
[12:13] <existance> owner989, mmm i think i'd rather learn about it and do it hard way ;)
[12:13] <nickrud> ok, ltibor65 , when you added multiverse to lines 20 & 21, you removed universe :) Put them back!
[12:13] <mycket> @odat: http://www.rahul.net/cgi-bin/userbin/man?topic=fstab&section=5
[12:13] <existance> owner989, i have linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-386, is that it?
[12:13] <varsendagger> Red-Sox, what's happening?
[12:13] <owner989> yea
[12:13] <NetGrunt> dr_willis, http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=156144&cid=13089319&pid=13089319&threshold=1&mode=nested&commentsort=0&op=Change
[12:13] <owner989> it should match your installed kernel
[12:13] <AlexRM> !pastebin
[12:13] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[12:14] <owner989> existance im pretty sure you will have to install the ati drivers
[12:14] <Dr_Willis> NetGrunt,  well im not finding any 2 buffers here on my box. :P
[12:14] <owner989> the ati drivers have a dual monitor setup
[12:14] <existance> owner989, im not absolutley certain which i have, is there a infokernel or something?
[12:14] <nickrud> Dr_Acemaster, search around on google, I'm sure you'll find a lot
[12:14] <existance> owner989, even though the other monitor is nvidia?
[12:14] <Dr_Willis> NetGrunt,  unifies qt and gtk based programs AS WELL AS commandline  ... he means 'kde and gnome' appps I guess
[12:15] <NetGrunt> Dr_Willis, keep on reading dude
[12:15] <Dr_Willis> NetGrunt,  as for the 'commandline' part.. :P  bah
[12:15] <MenZa`> zorba64: I tried sudo apt-cache search gzsetparams but no output
[12:15] <AlexRM> Hey, I get this error (Right at the end) when compling Guifications for Gaim
[12:15] <AlexRM> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/447739
[12:15] <owner989> existance if you goto help in xchat
[12:15] <owner989> and click about
[12:15] <owner989> it tells your kernel version
[12:15] <odat> mycket, i tried rw and it did nothing still did not have permission
[12:15] <Red-Sox> varsendagger: n2m
[12:15] <existance> cool :)
[12:16] <existance> yea that's it then
[12:16] <NetGrunt> Dr_Willis, ANYWAY .... don't you find it's annoying to have something copied on the clipboard, then you select some other thing with the mouse (without pressing ctrl+c) and it automatically copies itself to the clipboard again ? that drives me nuts ... I hate it
[12:16] <existance> owner989, so i already installed those via the !nvidia thing.  what do i do now?
[12:16] <varsendagger> NetGrunt, i wish windows did that
[12:16] <AlexRM> Can anyone help with my error?
[12:16] <unkn0wn2u> I disabled ipv6 and oss kernel modules by removing them from /usr/lib/modules , was that a smart thing to do?
[12:16] <Dr_Acemaster> nickrud: ok thanks
[12:16] <owner989> existance but you want to use the radeon as your main video card right?
[12:16] <szronik> I would like to install wine, but I have package dependency problems. Can anyone help me resolve them?
[12:16] <existance> owner989, yea, the AGP one
[12:17] <Dr_Willis> NetGrunt,  the select/middle click - has been a standard way for 20 years. :P i actually perfer it that way
[12:17] <Dr_Willis> NetGrunt,  im not able to get 2 buffers  going.. let me try a kde ap.
[12:17] <owner989> you will have to install the fglrx driver then
[12:17] <NetGrunt> dr willis, maybe the 2 buffers thing is gone
[12:17] <NetGrunt> but there's still the other annoying thing
[12:17] <existance> owner989,  but doesnt that uninstall the nvidia drivers?
[12:17] <nickrud> ltibor65, if you want, you can replace /etc/apt/sources.list completely with http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5358 ; it's a bit easier to read and understand.
[12:17] <NetGrunt> varsendagger, that's why I use linux, coz THEORETICALLY let's you chose among different choices
[12:18] <MenZa`> hmm... can anyone help me now that zorba64 seem to be afk
[12:18] <NetGrunt> varsendagger, but we can see that sometimes it does not
[12:18] <owner989> i dont think so existance
[12:18] <existance> owner989,
[12:18] <existance> owner989, sec
[12:18] <odat> does anyone know how to gain access to a slave drive?
[12:18] <MenZa`> !windowsdrives
[12:18] <ubotu> from memory, windowsdrives is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[12:18] <varsendagger> NetGrunt, i'm pretty sure you can change it in source and recompile it    :)
[12:18] <owner989> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=423584
[12:18] <Dr_Willis> NetGrunt,  with gnome - the 'select/middle click' buffer and the select/copy buffer clipboard seem to be identical.. with KDE however - they seem to be different.
[12:19] <NetGrunt> varsendagger, I'm not a programmer sorry
[12:19] <varsendagger> hah hah
[12:19] <existance> owner989, i just ran sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx and while installing it said removing nvidia-glx :(
[12:19] <mycket> @odat: generally you can look at the line for the floppy: "users" says that it can be mounted by users, too - rw means read/write
[12:19] <varsendagger> me neither, but you cannot do that with windows, even if you wanted to
[12:19] <Dr_Willis> NetGrunt,  and aparently theres a kde setting that removes that differance.
[12:19] <NetGrunt> varsendagger, sure thing! again .. that's why I use linux
[12:20] <mycket> @odat: but you have to do "sudo umount /dev/your_device_here" before that
[12:20] <owner989> but i think you can configure both cards using the ati setup
[12:20] <NetGrunt> Dr_Willis, ok with the two buffers ... there's still another problem, whenever you select some text, it autocopies it to the clipboard
[12:20] <matrix-ubuntu-c> hello
[12:20] <owner989> fglrxconfig and fireglcontrol
[12:21] <gar-> Dr_Willis sup
[12:21] <Dr_Willis> NetGrunt,  thts how the middle-click/copy works. :P and works for every window manager. the whole "cut/paste" feature  is actually specific to KDE/GNOME and a few others..
[12:21] <owner989> i dont know much about nvidia drivers sorry
[12:21] <sethk> Dr_Willis, the thing about copy/paste buffers is not a window manager issue.  It's an X windows issue.  X windows has a separate buffer for the mouse copy/paste operations vs. copy and paste from an app menu.  However, some window managers allow you to make the apps use the mouse copy/paste buffer
[12:21] <NetGrunt> thanks sethk
[12:21] <sethk> Dr_Willis, and kde allows this as well
[12:21] <Dr_Willis> sethk,  yea - seems tht gnome and kde both now sort of 'sync' the 2 buffers.
[12:21] <NetGrunt> also whenever you select any text, it's automatically copied to the clipboard
[12:21] <NetGrunt> and (for me) that sucks
[12:21] <Dr_Acemaster> when would I ever want to boot to an older kernal?
[12:21] <existance> owner989, i can see the ATI card in device manager, but it isn't in xorg.conf, shouldn't it be?
[12:21] <Dr_Acemaster> kernel
[12:21] <odat> mycket, so if i put rw,user in place of default on my slave drive line in fstab i should have access to it?
[12:22] <sethk> Dr_Willis, right, that's the default but you can change it.
[12:22] <Dr_Willis> NetGrunt,  thats a Feature. :P and a good thing.  lol.
[12:22] <NetGrunt> Dr_Willis, for you maybe, not for me
[12:22] <juser> Heya Everyone... I'm a new Ubuntu user just installed it... and was trying to install E17 but it asks for Jpeglib.h but i can't find any Jpeg package in Synaptic other than Jpegpixi and jpeginfo... and they ain't the right one's :S
[12:22] <owner989> ati should be your default video card
[12:22] <sethk> NetGrunt, I find that the biggest advantage in using X compared to windows
[12:22] <owner989> in x
[12:22] <owner989> because its newer too
[12:22] <existance> owner989, how do i check/change that?
[12:22] <mjr> actually, the _selection_ is different from the _clipboard_. See http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Standards_2fClipboardsWiki for a good X selection/clipboard explanation
[12:22] <zeeeee> hi all, can i prevent others from seeing my idle times when they run 'w'? or, as root, prevent users from seeing each others' idle times?
[12:22] <NetGrunt> sethk, I understand some people might like it, I hate it though .... and I remember some months ago a thread on slashdot with LOTS of people complaining about that as well
[12:22] <existance> owner989, i installed fglrx too btw
[12:23] <NetGrunt> mjr, thanks
[12:23] <owner989> you can check
[12:23] <sethk> NetGrunt, ignorance.  they've never used anything other than windows.  Or they like to type, I'm not sure which.
[12:23] <Dr_Willis> slashdot tends to be a huge flamefest anyway.. "it should be just like windows... vs No it shouldent"
[12:23] <existance> owner989, how though?
[12:23] <zorba64> juser: sudo apt-cache search libjpeg
[12:23] <NetGrunt> sethk ... no comments
[12:23] <sethk> NetGrunt, especially as you can change the behavior to whatever you want it to be
[12:23] <owner989> if ati is being used fglrxinfo will give info
[12:24] <NetGrunt> sethk, can you explain me how ? I haven't been able
[12:24] <owner989> in console
[12:24] <sethk> NetGrunt, but once used to the automatic copy nobody would ever go back to the other way.
[12:24] <mycket> @odat: as i said, i don't have another linux partition - so no guarantee, but that's what i would try first...
[12:24] <matrix-ubuntu-c> how can i solve this problem its missing arp-cache entry
[12:24] <Dr_Willis> actually can the select/middle click be disabled ? ive never seen a way either.. never wanted to.
[12:24] <sethk> NetGrunt, sure, just change the application copy/paste to use it's separate buffer
[12:24] <odat> mycket, ok trying
[12:24] <sethk> NetGrunt, I believe in kde it's in the klipper configuration
[12:24] <NetGrunt> sethk, forget about buffers ... i'm talking about the "auto copy when select" thing
[12:24] <juser> zorba64, Thx
[12:24] <zorba64> juser: np
[12:25] <LjL> Dr_Willis: in kde, it can be made to use the same buffer as ctrl-c/ctrl-v, not disabled, though
[12:25] <Dr_Willis> sethk im thinkng he wants to totally disable the 'select text->goes to clipboard' feature.  Thats part of X -
[12:25] <existance> owner989, it says the Nvidia one :(
[12:25] <Dr_Willis> LjL,  yea - thtas not exactly what hes wanting however..
[12:25] <ilbuca> I need on my system boot,run automatically IP_FORWARD and MASQERADE.Which file I have to edit?
[12:25] <NetGrunt> Dr_Willis, that's what I want yes
[12:25] <eobanb> according to the windows faq, to add an entry to the grub menu i should go to system > administration > boot.....but i dont see any such menu item...can anyone help?
[12:25] <Dr_Willis> NetGrunt,  then WHY dident you say so? :P
[12:25] <owner989> yes
[12:25] <NetGrunt> Dr_Willis, I did
[12:25] <He|m> can someone give me a hand with adding numbers in a colum from a file
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> NetGrunt,  not really :P  but we are used to milking out what peopel really want..
[12:26] <owner989> try running fglrxconfig
[12:26] <eobanb> er i meant ubuntu faq
[12:26] <ltibor65> nickrud, i pasted "universe" to the 2 lines, but I cananot also now find cdrdao.
[12:26] <NetGrunt> Dr_Willis, no prob man, maybe I did a bad explanation
[12:26] <NetGrunt> however
[12:26] <NetGrunt> do you know how can I disable that thing  ?
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> NetGrunt,  of course if it were disabled - then that would totally remove the clipboard from a lot of Other window manager tht you could be running.
[12:26] <zeeeee> answer: chmod 660 /var/run/utmp
[12:26] <zorba64> ltibor65: did you sudo apt-get update afterwards?
[12:27] <nickrud> ltibor65, did you do an update, so the new repository is recognized?
[12:27] <Dr_Acemaster> nickrud: does it matter what line I add 'splashimage=...'??
[12:27] <existance> most mice are PS/2 type?
[12:27] <Dr_Willis> NetGrunt,  you are the first person ive actually ever ask how. :P
[12:27] <NetGrunt> Dr_Willis, I don't care. I want to type ctrl+c and ctrl+v every time I want to copy/paste something to/from the clipboard, and NO way anyother thing I do with the mouse can alter the clipboard
[12:27] <nelposto> erm guys... how do i find what version of the ubuntu kernel I'm using?
[12:27] <eobanb> uname -a
[12:28] <zorba64> nelposto: uname -a
[12:28] <NetGrunt> Dr_Willis, do you know if this is possible ?
[12:28] <MickMcMack> The ubuntu kernel?
[12:28] <existance> owner989, in fglrxconfig, it wants my mouse port type.  Any idea which it is if it just plugs into the mouse slot on the keyboard?
[12:28] <nelposto> cheers
[12:28] <nickrud> Dr_Acemaster, there should be a commented out splashimage line in menu.lst already; if not, just put it close to the beginning.
[12:28] <owner989> just press enter
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> NetGrunt,  time to hit google I guess. its a feature of the X server actually.. so id guess it would not be disableable at all. at least not easially.
[12:28] <owner989> thats the default
[12:28] <mycket> @nelposto: sudo cat /proc/version
[12:29] <Trashcan> thanks whoever mentioned fglrxconfig
[12:29] <Trashcan> perfect
[12:29] <theg> anybody have any experience getting this dang turtle beach santa cruz sound card working?  Lots of questions/problems on the net, but no solutions...
[12:29] <odat> mycket, still there?
[12:29] <mycket> @odat: yes
[12:29] <eobanb> according to the ubuntu faq, to add an entry to the grub menu i should go to system > administration > boot.....but i dont see any such menu item...can anyone help?
[12:29] <Stormx2> my gnome windows are a bit screwed, if i want to resize them, I have to get within 1px of the edge. Its tricky and annoying, does anyone know how to fix this? Its only started recently.
[12:29] <NetGrunt> Dr_Willis, I hoped there was an easy way, something like a configuration parameter on the xorg.conf file
[12:29] <ltibor65> nickrud, yes I tried sudo apt-get update.
[12:30] <Trashcan> which package do i install for the kernel sources?
[12:30] <existance> I have a mice and mouse0 in my /dev/input, how do I know which one is my mouse?
[12:30] <odat> mycket, ok now when i go the computer / file browser i can see the slave drive but i still can't write to it
[12:30] <Trashcan> latest 386
[12:30] <Dr_Willis> NetGrunt,  not that i have ever noticed/heard of in my 8+ years of linux ussage.
[12:31] <kiko> hi!
[12:31] <Stormx2> hey!
[12:31] <mycket> @odat: shit :-( then i cannot help you at the moment. Maybe someone else can...
[12:31] <NetGrunt> strange thing
[12:31] <kiko> i dont know speakin english
[12:31] <NetGrunt> last time I checked was 2 years ago, when xorg wasn't used
[12:31] <Stormx2> odat: What filesystem?
[12:31] <nickrud> ltibor65, I'm not sure about what you're doing, but if you want, just replace your sources.list with http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5359
[12:31] <Seveas> !tell kiko about es
[12:31] <odat> Stormx2, ext3
[12:31] <kiko> i'm spanish
[12:32] <Stormx2> odat: Have a look on the wiki
[12:32] <zorba64> !es
[12:32] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:32] <Stormx2> !tell odat about mounting
[12:32] <kiko> ok
[12:32] <Dr_Willis> NetGrunt,  the whole "cut/paste" menu item wasent really even standard on linux till gnome and kde got popular. :P
[12:32] <kiko> i'm trying to install ldap
[12:32] <Stormx2> Dr_Willis: What came before gnome and kde?
[12:32] <deemo> can someone here help me set up VNC on my computer? Its giving me erros
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> Stormx2,  lets see...   for a long time i think fvwm was real popular, then windowmaker, and  olvwm
[12:33] <eobanb> if i wanted to boot from /dev/hdd, what would be the root entry in grub?
[12:33] <nickrud> wasn't motif the be all and end all at one time?
[12:33] <Bog_> can anyone suggest a popular Media Manager for Linux?
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> Stormx2, http://xwinman.org/  has most of them listed
[12:33] <NetGrunt> Dr_Willis, I've been using linux for 12 years and UNIX for 15 or so :P
[12:33] <zorba64> Bog_: what sort of media do you want to manage?
[12:33] <blanky> if i installed something with dpkg, how can I see if it's installed, like, how can i show my dpkgs
[12:34] <Bog_> zor: audio and vidio
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> NetGrunt,  if you say so. :P ya should be used to the select/middle click by then.
[12:34] <_jason> blanky, it should be found in synaptic
[12:34] <Bog_> zorb: something like itunes?
[12:34] <NetGrunt> Dr_Willis, I've been using it, I always hated it so
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> NetGrunt,  poor thing. :P
[12:34] <odat> Stormx2, that doesn tell me anything
[12:34] <blanky> _jason, even if i didn't install it through synaptic?
[12:34] <zorba64> Bog_: for audio try rhythmbox or amarok
[12:34] <AlexRM> Hi,
[12:34] <_jason> blanky, dpkg and synaptic both use the same database
[12:34] <AlexRM> is there a karamba for Gnome? or a karamba Type program?
[12:34] <eobanb> if i wanted to boot from /dev/hdd, what would be the root entry in grub?
[12:35] <Bog_> zora: nothing combined?
[12:35] <ilbuca> Please,Is there someone who tell me which file I have to edit for automatically start IP_FORWARD and MASQUERADE on system boot?
[12:35] <blanky> doesn't show up in synaptic :'( (it's called cedega)
[12:35] <zorba64> Bog_: dont think so
[12:35] <owner989> cedega should show up
[12:36] <blanky> doesnt :'(
[12:36] <zorba64> !gdesklets
[12:36] <ubotu> gDeslets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefuleness Homepage is hhtp://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[12:36] <blanky> maybe Cedega?
[12:36] <blanky> i did cedega, maybe it's Cedega
[12:36] <blanky> let me see
[12:36] <AlexRM> is there a Karamba type program for Gnome?
[12:36] <owner989> linux is case sensitive
[12:36] <blanky> gdesklets
[12:36] <Bog_> zorb: so there's nothing like Windows media or iTunes?
[12:36] <owner989> but im not sure if it matters in synaptic
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> AlexRM,  Gdesklets
[12:36] <pbransford> Is there a general linux forum anywhere? somewhere i can post a question and relevant data, and check responses later?
[12:36] <odat> friggin A    doesn't anyone have two friggin hard drive in here to give me a clue of what to do!!!!!!!!!
[12:36] <_jason> blanky, do apt-cache search cedega
[12:36] <owner989> http://ubuntuforums.org/
[12:36] <pbransford> odat, whats the question?
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> pbransford,  dozens of them.. try the ubuntu homepage/forums
[12:36] <blanky> odat: what the heack are you talking about lol
[12:37] <blanky> _jason, will try
[12:37] <owner989> odat use cfdisk
[12:37] <pbransford> Dr_Willis, i aws looking for something more linux-generic, less distro specific. but thanks
[12:37] <Stormx2> blanky: what do you need?
[12:37] <blanky> _jason, it didn't output anything, it just gave a new line
[12:37] <AlexRM> Cool thanks,
[12:37] <odat> pbransford, i have a slave drive which is being mounted as /Slave  but i don't have permission to read or write to it
[12:37] <blanky> Stormx2, I want to remove cedega (installed with a deb package)
[12:37] <cliebow> what are called the gtk dev packages ?
[12:37] <AlexRM> Does anyone know why my Synaptic is NOT using my GKT Theme?
[12:38] <owner989> pbransford http://groups.google.ca/group/alt.linux?lnk=sg&hl=en
[12:38] <AlexRM> it uses the MetaCity one (That is the Window Border Right)
[12:38] <Stormx2> blanky
[12:38] <odat> the fstab orignally looked like this "/dev/hdb1       /Slave          ext3    defaults        0       2"
[12:38] <nickrud> pbransford, use a newsreader (pan for example) and set up news.gmane.org as the server; there is a list there for nearly every need
[12:38] <pbransford> owner989, is the SnR ratio useful there?
[12:38] <Stormx2> blanky: It will show up in synaptic no?
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> AlexRM,  its running as root perhaps. so its using roots themes setup.
[12:38] <owner989> i have no idea lol
[12:38] <blanky> Stormx2, what
[12:38] <AlexRM> Dr_Willis, Ahh yes - How do I make every user use same theme?
[12:38] <_jason> blanky, try dpkg -l cedega
[12:38] <_jason> blanky, that is a lowercase L
[12:38] <pbransford> odat, shouldnt have anything to do with master/slave
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> AlexRM,  dont let any users change any of their themes. :P is one way.
[12:39] <pbransford> is it formatted properly
[12:39] <Stormx2> blanky: usually when .deb packages are installed, they show up in synaptic regardless
[12:39] <AlexRM> Dr_Willis, I am the User and Only User
[12:39] <AlexRM> so I want my theme changed!
[12:39] <AlexRM> hehe
[12:39] <blanky> Stormx2, it's not :'( oh well
[12:39] <_jason> blanky, try dpkg -l *cedega*
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> AlexRM,  copy your users .gnome configs over to roots dir... of course. :P
[12:39] <owner989> odat it would help if you said what file system that drive is
[12:39] <sergio> hi, does anybody can tell me if there is an antivirus for ubuntu?
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> and change the owner/permssons and stuff of course.
[12:39] <owner989> NTFS?
[12:39] <odat> owner989, ext3
[12:39] <blanky> no packages found matching *cedega*
[12:39] <khalif> Um, I hoping that someone might be able to help me :(
[12:39] <ltibor65> nickrud, I replaced the source.list with the one you are written to paste.ubuntu.nl, but I cannot find cdrdao.
[12:40] <x_or> Can anyone tell me how to configure a ATH chipset WiFi card.  I loaded the module ath_pci, but now what?
[12:40] <pbransford> khalif, if we fail to help here, try ##linux
[12:40] <owner989> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[12:40] <AlexRM> Dr_Willis, Root Dir....wheres that? do you mean / ..... I can't just plonk it in there can i?
[12:40] <odat> all i want to do is treat this drive as a seperate drive that i can access and store stuff on
[12:40] <Stormx2> khalif: What with?
[12:40] <khalif> I'm a total 'Nix noob and I could really use some help..
[12:40] <owner989> actually nm if it is ext3
[12:40] <LjL> !ubuntuguide
[12:40] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is probably an unofficial guide written by community members. It is not guaranteed to be up to date, or to work. There is an official guide, at http://help.ubuntu.com which is preferred.
[12:40] <LjL> !ntfs
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> AlexRM,  the Root user has  /root :P
[12:40] <erUSUL> x_or, run ifconfig -a
[12:40] <eobanb> if i wanted to boot from /dev/hdd, what would be the root entry in grub?
[12:40] <AlexRM> Ahhhh
[12:40] <LjL> !ntfs
[12:40] <pbransford> khalif, ask and be answered if theres answeres here
[12:40] <nickrud> ltibor65, try ctl-f in synaptic, and search for cdrdao
[12:40] <Stormx2> LjL: /msg ubotu ntfs
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> AlexRM,  time to get into reading some Linux fundamentals/tutorials - instead of worrying about theme on a app you run every so often. :P
[12:41] <khalif> Thanks pbransford
[12:41] <x_or> erUSUL:  Ok, shows sit0, is that the device exposed by ath cards?
[12:41] <blanky> guys wth is speedcrunch, its installed on my pc
[12:41] <LjL> Stormx2: not if i want it in the channel
[12:41] <nickrud> ltibor65, I've been using that style sources.list for several years (not just ubuntu)
[12:41] <_jason> blanky, did you reload the packages in synaptic before searching?
[12:41] <khalif> Ok then from the beginning:
[12:41] <AlexRM> Dr_Willis, What files do I need to copy over? sorry for beeing a newb!
[12:41] <theg> eobanb: probably (hd1,x) where x is the partition number
[12:41] <zorba64> blanky: funky calculator
[12:41] <pbransford> khalif, im still a newb but not so much anymore. psudo newb :)
[12:41] <blanky> zorba64, oh
[12:41] <gratuit> I'm having problems with the mythmusic plugin on ubuntu, Whenever I select the Scan for new music item, nothing happens, is there any other way to add music to the playlist, or any ideas on why it might not work? has anyone had it work?
[12:41] <blanky> _jason, yeah, it's allright though
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> AlexRM,  my guess the .gnome* dirs.
[12:41] <Stormx2> LjL: Why would you want it in the channel?
[12:41] <varsendagger> has anyone succesfully installed enlightenment 17
[12:41] <khalif> I have a Thinkpad 600X with 190MB of RAM
[12:41] <erUSUL> eobanb, (hd3,x)
[12:41] <AlexRM> Oh the whole directory
[12:41] <sergio> hi, does anybody can tell me if there is an antivirus for ubuntu?
[12:41] <unkn0wn2u> gratuit, I have it working
[12:41] <Stormx2> LjL: you can go !tell <whoever> about <whatever>
[12:42] <owner989> its not needed sergio
[12:42] <odat> uhm ok no ideas i guess
[12:42] <gratuit> unkn0wn2u: did it work out of the box?
[12:42] <erUSUL> x_or, no it is a ipv6 related iface run iwconfig
[12:42] <sergio> thanks
[12:42] <LjL> Stormx2: because of this [00:40]  <owner989> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> AlexRM,  or run the gnome-theme selector as root from the shell with 'sudo' and select the right theme.
[12:42] <_jason> blanky, that's strange :/  It should show up though.. for example you should find a package called w32codecs if you installed those with a .deb
[12:42] <khalif> I have been trying to install Ubuntu on it since 9:00am this morning
[12:42] <unkn0wn2u> gratuit, no you have to setup a music directory
[12:42] <varsendagger> owner989, why isn't anti virus neede in ubuntu?
[12:42] <khalif> I go through the instal perfectly with no errors
[12:42] <x_or> erUSUL:  Hmm, shows no cards.  dmesg says "ath%d: unable to attach hardware; HAL status 13"  Does this indicate a bad card perhaps?
[12:42] <Stormx2> varsendagger: No-one writes viruses for linux
[12:42] <owner989> varsendagger, there are too few linux viruses to make such a program worthwhile
[12:42] <ltibor65> nickrud, what is crl-f?
[12:43] <owner989> and as long as you dont run as root
[12:43] <AlexRM> Dr_Willis, what is the command for the gnome-theme?
[12:43] <AlexRM> cos it's not gnome-theme :P
[12:43] <Stormx2> varsendagger: Linux is much more secure than windows ya see ;-)
[12:43] <nickrud> ltibor65, that's a keycommand inside synaptic
[12:43] <khalif> After the install is finished, the user/pass screen appeaars at which point I put in my info and then hit enter
[12:43] <Stormx2> varsendagger: The only way you'll get a virus is if you build a very insecure server off your computer
[12:43] <varsendagger> Stormx2, why don't peopel write linux viruses?
[12:43] <pbransford> Stormx2, WRONG! its just not as common
[12:43] <existance> owner989, woo, I got it to switch to the AGP monitor :)
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> AlexRM,  no clue really. :P  i dont worry about eye candy much.
[12:43] <erUSUL> x_or, i do not know :(
[12:43] <AlexRM> ow :(
[12:43] <owner989> cool existance
[12:43] <pbransford> varsendagger, hes wrong, they are out there
[12:43] <djk_> varsendagger: if you're really scared, buy a mac ;)
[12:43] <owner989> is the dual monitors working?
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> AlexRM,  try 'gnome<tab>
[12:43] <pbransford> khalif, go on...
[12:43] <unkn0wn2u> Stormx2, I disagree with the no antivirus thing , just download drupal
[12:43] <existance> owner989, any idea how I go about installing the others drivers?
[12:44] <zorba64> varsendagger: we aint that popular...thankfully
[12:44] <Stormx2> pbransford: Well, it doesn't have ActiveX for a start, and window's shell access it notorious
[12:44] <owner989> existance did you get the fglrx-control package
[12:44] <AlexRM> Dr_Willis, it just beeps at me :P
[12:44] <owner989> try running fireglcontrol from console
[12:44] <pbransford> Stormx2, and having to chmod things and execute them make viruses harder to strike :P just worry about worms if they ever become popular on *nix
[12:44] <Trashcan> after installing a windows driver for my wireless card using ndiswrapper, what do i do to get the card working?
[12:44] <varsendagger> hey i am getting a error can
[12:44] <khalif> The problem is that after the user/pass screen Ubuntu starts to hang, no menu bar, no GUI no nothing. Just a blank screen with a cursor
[12:44] <Trashcan> that's as far as the instructions went
[12:44] <existance> owner989, not sure i just ran apt-get instal xorg-driver-fglrx
[12:44] <gratuit> unkn0wn2u: any idea on where that is documented?
[12:44] <Stormx2> pbransford: And that'll only happen once bug #1 is fixed
[12:45] <owner989> sudo apt-get install fglrx-control
[12:45] <owner989> do that as well
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> AlexRM,  we are back to the 'learning linux fundamentals' now :P   hit tab a few times and it MAY show all the 'name completions'
[12:45] <pbransford> khalif, boot as single user, and check your X logs...
[12:45] <blanky> how can I force to remove a directory even if it's not empty
[12:45] <djk_> blanky: rm -rf
[12:45] <Stormx2> blanky: rm -rf dir
[12:45] <pbransford> khalif, it's your X server. the config is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf i believe
[12:45] <AlexRM> Dr_Willis, Ahh thanks, sorry - im very new to linux
[12:45] <pbransford> careful with that rm command!!!
[12:45] <existance> owner989, ok, done
[12:45] <pbransford> blanky, rm -rf /     system decapitation
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> AlexRM,  gnome-control-center - looks Promiseing
[12:46] <ltibor65> nickrud, but where in synaptic need I to write ctl-f?
[12:46] <unkn0wn2u> gratuit, just install drupal and the paypal module and you'll find out like I did,            The paypal people called my dns server people and they shut me down becuase of a phishing scam
[12:46] <owner989> try running fireglcontrol
[12:46] <Stormx2> Yes. only yesterday I managed to delete all my icons with a rm -rf command.
[12:46] <LjL> pbransford: well, not unless you run it as root, fortunately
[12:46] <khalif> When I access 'top' from the terminal it says that I'm using nearly 90% of my RAM yet there are no programs running....
[12:46] <Stormx2> khalif: open system-monitor
[12:46] <pbransford> LjL, true
[12:46] <existance> owner989, ok it ran
[12:46] <LjL> khalif: quite normal, linux caches a lot of stuff
[12:46] <nickrud> ltibor65, you press ctl-f, that will pop up an entry you can use to search with. Gotta go, time to fix dinner :)
[12:47] <owner989> it has some dual monitor options
[12:47] <pbransford> LjL, Gota give windows this: its a pain in the arse to wipe c:\windows or c:\program files
[12:47] <djk_> pbransford: wanna play [ $[ $RANDOM % 6 ]  == 0 ]  && sudo rm -rf * || echo "You live"  ;)
[12:47] <owner989> ive never used a dual monitor in linux however
[12:47] <owner989> but it should work
[12:47] <LjL> pbransford: it can be done using the recovery console i think
[12:47] <existance> owner989, gah,i got to go eat, thanks for the help :)
[12:47] <pbransford> khalif, thats fine. unused ram is wasted ram. linux swaps much more intelligently than windows
[12:47] <owner989> np
[12:47] <existance> owner989, i should be able to figure it out ;)
[12:47] <blanky> djk_, try to run that
[12:47] <djk_> blanky: dont do that unless you know what it is doing...
[12:48] <varsendagger> !paste
[12:48] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[12:48] <khalif> how do I open the system monitor?
[12:48] <LjL> djk_, everyone: i appreciate the joke, but perhaps it's not a terribly good idea to type stuff like that here... lots of newbies, you know!
[12:48] <pbransford> khalif, i don't know for the console, i cant even terminate stuff from the console.
[12:49] <tritium> djk_, please don't do that here
[12:49] <Trashcan> lol
[12:49] <djk_> LjL: yea but it made you happy didn't it? :(
[12:49] <Trashcan> lol
[12:49] <Trashcan> that's one tense game
[12:49] <LjL> djk_: yeah, but only because i know enough not to type it on my console :)
[12:49] <khalif> pbransford: Because Ubuntu hangs, I can't get into the GUi stuff. If there's anything to do, it has to be done from the terminal.
[12:49] <pbransford> djk_, no thanks...
[12:49] <BotBuilde1> It's more fun with $RANDOM % 2
[12:50] <pbransford> djk_, digital russian roulette
[12:50] <Trashcan> someone wanna play with me? i have a trash system to do it on ;)
[12:50] <djk_> tritium: meh, if random people copy stuff not targeted at them ..
[12:50] <djk_> pbransford: yep :)
[12:50] <khalif> pbransford: What were you saying about the X server?
[12:50] <tritium> djk_, nevertheless, that's not appropriate here
[12:50] <pbransford> khalif, i understand, but that's not in my knowledge base unfortunatly.
[12:50] <pbransford> khalif, the X server seems to make your computer die...
[12:51] <khalif> What exactly IS the X server?
[12:51] <owner989> khalif what video card do you have
[12:51] <mycket> @khalif: Press CTRL+ALT+F1 then you have a non-X console
[12:51] <owner989> X is the gui
[12:51] <pepsi> ah!!
[12:51] <LjL> khalif: it's the thing that drives your graphics card
[12:51] <Trashcan> so I have an NTFS drive with some stuff on it that I want to copy over to my main (ext3), how do i mount it ?
[12:51] <djk_> !ntfs
[12:52] <Trashcan> thanks
[12:52] <khalif> I have no idea what video card I have: This is an IBM thinkPad 600X with a Pentium III
[12:52] <rp78> hi all! i have ubuntu breezy and a conexant modem, do i have to download additional drivers for my modem
[12:53] <owner989> khalif run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:53] <owner989> select vesa
[12:53] <tritium> khalif, what does lspci list for your video chipset?
[12:53] <pbransford> arg crappy connection + mandatory shallow buffer = chunk blowage
[12:53] <mycket> khalif: IMHO its not the X-server but Gnome that cannot be initialized. Maybe at he thogin.screen another Window manager (twm?) works...
[12:53] <owner989> yes khalif try lspci
[12:53] <owner989> or just use vesa driver
[12:53] <owner989> vesa should work for anyone
[12:54] <owner989> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:54] <erUSUL> !enter
[12:54] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[12:54] <khalif> Hold On!
[12:54] <inf> OH!
[12:54] <inf> OOOOH!
[12:54] <owner989> lol
[12:54] <inf> http://lastmeasureunified.zoy.org
[12:54] <rp78> hi all! i have ubuntu breezy and a conexant modem, do i have to download additional drivers for my modem
[12:55] <pbransford> mwhaaa!
[12:55] <Kejk_PL> rp78: probaby yes
[12:55] <inf> http://lastmeasureunified.zoy.org
[12:55] <owner989> rp7 you need the restricted package
[12:55] <owner989> restricted modules package
[12:55] <pbransford> rp78, connexant? most likely a winmodem
[12:55] <khalif> Video card is NeoMagic NM2360
[12:55] <odat> arrrggggg
[12:55] <rp78> how do i do that
[12:55] <tritium> inf, stop that
[12:55] <inf> help!"
[12:55] <Kejk_PL> rp78: is it external modem? if not, you'll need to BUY drivers :-(
[12:55] <BotBuilde1> inf, you bastard
[12:56] <inf> i need somebody
[12:56] <inf> help!
[12:56] <BotBuilde1> you suck ass
[12:56] <inf> not just anybody!
[12:56] <odat> nothing works apparently you can not have a simple slave drive with linux
[12:56] <BotBuilde1> noone help him
[12:56] <inf> what
[12:56] <BotBuilde1> you just pasted a really annoiying link
[12:56] <owner989> khalif see if it is listed when you run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:56] <tritium> inf, cut it out now
[12:56] <BotBuilde1> thank gods i can tree delete firefox
[12:56] <inf> help me!
[12:57] <khalif> ok, one sec
[12:57] <BotBuilde1> but i lost the stuff i was browsing
[12:57] <BotBuilde1> no
[12:57] <mycket> khalif: http://koivunen.info/?q=node/41
[12:57] <BotBuilde1> screw inf
[12:57] <rp78> it is internal, it is detected in the device manager
[12:57] <tritium> inf, don't ever paste a link like that again here
[12:57] <inf> whats wrong wif it+
[12:57] <owner989> good link mycket
[12:57] <tritium> wif is not a word
[12:58] <Kejk_PL> rp78: http://www.google.pl/search?q=conexant+linux
[12:58] <khalif> OK, I'm lost: xserver-xorg is asking me for my video card's 'bus identifier'....
[12:59] <LjL> khalif: leave the default
[12:59] <mustard5> khalif, use the default
[12:59] <BotBuilde1> inf - firefox bounced around at a totally unstoppable rate displaying sick pictures and opening thousands of outlook windows
[12:59] <owner989> rp78 goto help and click about
[12:59] <mycket> @owner989, thx
[12:59] <owner989> see what kernel version you have
[12:59] <khalif> ok
[12:59] <_jason> ban inf please
[12:59] <BotBuilde1> while yelling "I'm a giant vagina"
[12:59] <owner989> after that use synaptic to install the matching restricted modules for your kernel
[12:59] <rp78> pbransford: can i use winmodem drivers as an alternate driver for my conexant modem?
[12:59] <tritium> BotBuilde1, was there porn on inf's link?
[01:00] <_jason> tritium, worse...
[01:00] <BotBuilde1> I think so
[01:00] <BotBuilde1> yeah worse
[01:00] <BotBuilde1> goatse.cx i think
[01:00] <khalif> Should I enter an amount of RAM for my video card to use?
[01:00] <Stormx2> ban him
[01:00] <BotBuilde1> My comps really fast though so its hard to tell
[01:00] <zorba64> BotBuilde1: you clicked on it
[01:00] <BotBuilde1> thankfully
[01:00] <owner989> no khalif
[01:00] <Dr_Willis> khalif,  i havent had to do so in years
[01:00] <BotBuilde1> zorba64 - yeah i figured it was something relevant
[01:00] <rp78> owner989: what will i look on the about dialog box
[01:00] <khalif> bear in mind I have a really old laptop....
[01:00] <erUSUL> !ops
[01:00] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[01:00] <owner989> for example mine says Linux 2.6.12-10-686-smp
[01:00] <khalif> Pentium III
[01:00] <owner989> what does yours say
[01:01] <tritium> what's the matter, erUSUL ?
[01:01] <Dr_Willis> khalif,  i had it working on a Pent100 laptop. :P and never had to enter the info.
[01:01] <pbransford> tritium, hes a dial up. most likely that ban won't stick
[01:01] <bucky> inf is over in #debian spamming the channel with http://lastmeasureunified.zoy.org
[01:01] <khalif> ok, I'm going to continue...
[01:01] <tritium> pbransford, indeed...
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[01:02] <Trashcan> how should the fstab entry read for ntfs (what needs to be added for read only?) or is it read only by default?
[01:02] <zorba64> Trashcan: read-only by default I believe
[01:02] <Trashcan> thanks
[01:02] <khalif> Should I use the 'Kernal framebuffer Device Interface'?
[01:03] <erUSUL> tritium, sorry i thougt thast nobody has "noticed" inf. my bad
[01:03] <mustard5> khalif, choose defaults on all questions you don't know the answer to
[01:03] <Trashcan> hum
[01:03] <tritium> erUSUL, no problem
[01:03] <Trashcan> seems to be empty
[01:03] <nalioth> erUSUL: may i help you?
[01:03] <eobanb> is there any way to install windows after an ubuntu install without wiping grub from the mbr?
[01:03] <Trashcan> i mounted /dev/hdb1 at /media/storage as ntfs
[01:03] <Trashcan> empty :(
[01:03] <pbransford> well i gota get going, lunch break almost over XP
[01:03] <pbransford> good luck khalif
[01:04] <owner989> hey i wonder if that exploit inf posted works in the new firefox
[01:04] <Stormx2> Trashcan: Did the mount go ok?
[01:04] <owner989> they should fix that
[01:04] <pbransford> you might want to ask in ##linux as well
[01:04] <_jason> owner989, yes
[01:04] <zorba64> Trashcan: try sudo modprobe ntfs then mount again
[01:04] <Trashcan> /dev/hdb1 on /media/0 GB Disk (hdb1) type ntfs
[01:04] <Trashcan> ok zorba
[01:04] <pbransford> owner989, tahnkfully news:// isn't a registered protocol on my system yet :)
[01:04] <intelikey> eobanb if you have multiple hdd's yes.
[01:04] <owner989> type killall firefox-bin in console to close his nonsense
[01:04] <owner989> if you clicked his link
[01:04] <djk_> tritium: was inf properly g-lined?
[01:05] <owner989> ban inf from the entire server
[01:05] <owner989> lol
[01:05] <tritium> djk_, not yet
[01:05] <erUSUL> nalioth, sorry for bothering you i thougt that nobody has "noticed" inf and friend. my bad the problem has been solved already
[01:05] <Seveas> off-topic talks somewhere else...
[01:05] <Seveas> not in here
[01:05] <Stork> what's the linux equivilant of ctrl+alt+delete ?
[01:05] <pepsi> the reset button?
[01:06] <mycket>  ctrl+alt+delete?
[01:06] <snorks> ctrl+alt+f2 perhaps
[01:06] <owner989> ctrl alt delete will reboot in linux
[01:06] <owner989> but not in x
[01:06] <ilba7r> to restart the window manager ctrl alt backspace
[01:06] <mycket>  ctrl+alt+backspace?
[01:06] <korhalf> how do i make xbindkeys launch in gnome every session?
[01:06] <Trashcan> woot
[01:06] <Trashcan> works
[01:06] <korhalf> i know usually its .xsession, but i think gnome ignores that
[01:06] <eobanb> intelikey, i do
[01:06] <snorks> ctrl+alt+f2 perhaps, then ps aux and kill the stuff u wanna kill, then ctrl+alt+f7
[01:06] <Seveas> korhalf, .gnomerc
[01:06] <Trashcan> thanks zorba64
[01:07] <eobanb> i have ubuntu on one, and i'm going to install windows on a second
[01:07] <korhalf> Seveas, thanks, i appreciate it :)
[01:07] <Trashcan> hm
[01:07] <intelikey> eobanb set bios to boot the other disk and install win then set bios back.
[01:07] <Trashcan> how do i allow other users than root to read?
[01:07] <korhalf> Seveas, I don't have a .gnomerc in my home directory, is it okay to just create one? and also, what syntax does it follow?
[01:07] <wickedpuppy> snorks, eh ah can't you do ps aux in terminal and kill it ? must you go to ctrl-alt-f2 ?
[01:07] <Seveas> korhalf, yes, shellscript
[01:07] <Trashcan> sudo chmod u+r /media/storage gives 'read only filesystem'
[01:08] <Seveas> Trashcan, if it's fat/ntfs: add umode=0000 when mounting
[01:08] <intelikey> eobanb it is not that hard to reinstall grub after a windows install tho
[01:08] <rp78> i got this file on the internet: PCI_56K_V2_K2.2.16.tar.gz. it's from driverguide.com and for Conexant HSF 56k PCI. how do i install it?
[01:08] <Trashcan> thanks seveas :D
[01:09] <mustard5> rp78, they usually contain a README file
[01:09] <intelikey> rp78 'fileroller'
[01:09] <korhalf> Can anyone help me with this?
[01:10] <Broam> Anyone know where the best place is to file bug reports for Dapper?
[01:10] <korhalf> i edited my .xbindkeysrc
[01:10] <intelikey> rp78 unpack it and read the instructions
[01:10] <korhalf> and put xgamma -gamma 2 as alt + g and xgamma -gamma 1 as alt + f to bring it back
[01:10] <korhalf> so when i go into a game like ET, i press alt + g to get the increased gamma
[01:10] <korhalf> and when im done i can press alt + f, the problem is it isnt working, and i launched xbindkeys..
[01:10] <Seveas> Broam, depends on the package
[01:10] <Broam> dasher.
[01:11] <Seveas> !info dasher dapper
[01:11] <ubotu> dasher: (A graphical predictive text input system), section x11, is optional. Version: 3.2.18-1 (dapper), Packaged size: 178 kB, Installed size: 524 kB
[01:11] <intelikey> rp78 can i get that url from you ?
[01:11] <Seveas> Broam, bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[01:11] <BotBuilde1> rp78 - tar xzvf PCI_56K_V2_K2.2.16
[01:11] <Broam> Gotcha, thanks
[01:11] <korhalf> Any ideas?
[01:11] <darkgamer20> please help me. I added my hp officejet k80 with the gnome printer manager, but whenever i try to print from OO.o the printer dose not do anything it just sits there. I am sure that the hplip driver is installed, any ideas about what might be wrong?
[01:11] <tonyyarusso> All right, I tried looking through the wikis, and I still don't understand samba.
[01:11] <brosio> anyone could explain me why not all the kde play good when i maximize and minize windows the sound ends immediatly i've check on kde settings an into it play good any helps ?
[01:12] <dmoyne> hello ! :Is it safe to install KDE 3.5 ?
[01:12] <erUSUL> darkgamer20, have you configured the printing settings in OOorg
[01:12] <Seveas> dmoyne, KDE is unsafe by nature
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[01:12] <wshin> haaha
[01:13] <Seveas> dmoyne, kde 3.5 should be ok if you use the semi-official repos
[01:13] <Trashcan> hm seveas
[01:13] <erUSUL> tonyyarusso, go to samba.org it has lots of good documentation
[01:13] <Trashcan> umask=0000 didn't work
[01:13] <Trashcan> :(
[01:13] <darkgamer20> erUSUL: well OOorg says its gonna print to my officejet so i thought that didn't need any other configuration
[01:13] <dmoyne>  Seveas : I have installed in a test distro Ubuntu but I have a problem with MIME
[01:13] <korhalf> Wait i got it working, but when i start ET, it doesnt accept the new gamma
[01:14] <korhalf> it just defaults to 1.0
[01:14] <erUSUL> tonyyarusso, specially the book Samba-HOWTO-Collection.pdf
[01:14] <Stormx2> Trashcan: try umask=1000
[01:14] <Seveas> dmoyne, someone else will have to help you there, I'ma gnomie :)
[01:14] <Trashcan> neg
[01:15] <owner989> KDE 3.5 is beta
[01:15] <owner989> its up to you
[01:15] <dmoyne>  Seveas : thanks anyway I will wait a little bit more !
[01:15] <Seveas> dmoyne, or try in #kubuntu :)
[01:15] <wshin> windowmaker..
[01:15] <Seveas> owner989, 3.5 jas been released already...
[01:15] <Seveas> has*
[01:15] <intelikey> Trashcan what ya doing ?
[01:16] <Trashcan> mounting my ntfs drive i used for storage in windows
[01:16] <dmoyne> ok thanks and bye !
[01:16] <Trashcan> so i can pull some stuff off it
[01:16] <Trashcan> and reformat
[01:16] <Seveas> Trashcan, did you unmount it before retrying?
[01:16] <Trashcan> yessir
[01:16] <Trashcan> every time
[01:16] <intelikey> !ntfs
[01:16] <ubotu> somebody said ntfs was the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[01:16] <tonyyarusso> erUSUL: I'll try that.
[01:16] <darkgamer20> erUSUL, well tried to configure it but there seems to be nothing that change my result
[01:16] <Trashcan> yea, i did that inteli
[01:16] <Trashcan> it didn't work though :(
[01:17] <intelikey> hmmm   pastebin  your fstab, lets have a look.
[01:17] <jonny> Hi guys.  Doing my head in here but does anyone happen to know what directory the wallpaper image files are held in?
[01:17] <mustard5> Trashcan, I found the script doesnt work if two criteria are not met.  1.  the drives are still mounted 2. there are already entries in your fstab for windows drives
[01:18] <Trashcan> well the first time i did it, the drive didn't get mounted
[01:18] <mustard5> Trashcan, heh..I wrote that badly :)
[01:18] <Trashcan> with the script
[01:18] <Trashcan> so i did it following the 'by hand' part of the wiki
[01:18] <Trashcan> now i'm just having permissions issues
[01:18] <mustard5> Trashcan, PM me and I can walk you through it
[01:18] <mustard5> Trashcan, with the script that is
[01:19] <tim_> Hi
[01:19] <musashiden> can i get a little support for kubuntu here? #kubuntu is being a little useless, noone answers
[01:19] <intelikey> hey tim_
[01:19] <ltibor65> Hi, how can I give root privileges for cdrdao in order to running with k3b?
[01:19] <Seveas> musashiden, sure, if people in here can help, they will
[01:19] <fayer77> do you know how to check if the php parser is working?
[01:19] <Seveas> ltibor65, you don't need root privileges
[01:19] <Seveas> ltibor65, just make sure you're in the cdrom group
[01:19] <mulder> how do i set my cli resolution to 1400
[01:20] <musashiden> ok, i just upgraded from hoary to breeze, and when i restarted my computer, Xorg doesnt start up
[01:20] <intelikey> ltibor65 chmod +s    methinks
[01:20] <musashiden> the log shows this error
[01:20] <musashiden>   Download only - do NOT install or unpack archives
[01:20] <musashiden>   -s  No-act. Perform
[01:20] <musashiden> ooops
[01:20] <musashiden> not that
[01:20] <Seveas> musashiden, do NOT paste in here
[01:20] <erUSUL> musashiden, use pastebin please
[01:20] <intelikey> ltibor65 you might check that in the man page.   man chmod
[01:20] <erUSUL> !pastebin
[01:20] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[01:21] <musashiden> my bad
[01:21] <musashiden> :/
[01:21] <musashiden> not really used to use a pastebin, iam kinda new in this whole irc server
[01:21] <odat> slave drive slave drive slave drive    no one knows how to mount this     all these tech heads and no one is using two hard drives????
[01:22] <musashiden> this is the error
[01:22] <musashiden> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/447799
[01:22] <seth_k|lappy> odat, a slave would be hdb1, use sudo fdisk -l
[01:22] <erUSUL> odat, they are mounted exactly as the master ones
[01:22] <intelikey> odat,  i see your rant but i missed your question.  care to tell me what you are trying to do exactaly
[01:22] <khalif> ok, the x server thing didn't work.
[01:22] <syndicate> does anyone know of a way to flip cursors for left handed users?
[01:23] <khalif> anyone else have any ideas?
[01:23] <musashiden> khalif: are you talking to me?
[01:24] <erUSUL> musashiden, run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:24] <musashiden> already did that
[01:24] <odat> intelikey, i have a slave drive which is formatted as ext3 its also being listed in my fstab as "/dev/hdb1  /Slave          ext3         errors=remount-ro           0  2"  all i want to do is have a friggin icon that i can click on to access this drive and read and write to it
[01:24] <odat> sheesh
[01:24] <djk_> Seveas: why is DicOOo not included in the OpenOffice packages? and why does the OOo package not use the standard OOo buttons?
[01:24] <khalif> I'm asking anyone that might be able to help me get Ubuntu running, LOL!
[01:24] <khalif> :)
[01:25] <Seveas> djk_, -ENOCLUE, I'm not the resident OO.o guru
[01:25] <musashiden> iam trying to get help about kubuntu :/
[01:26] <djk_> Seveas: yea but since you seem to be the highest ranked ubuntu supporter here i thought i'd ask you ;)
[01:26] <khalif> what kind of computer do you have musashiden?
[01:26] <Trashcan> :'( i had to give up NFSMW to have linux on a fast computer
[01:26] <Trashcan> woe is me
[01:26] <Seveas> highest ranked?
[01:26] <erUSUL> odat, you should have the icon in Places>Computer
[01:26] <djk_> Seveas: just an impression i got..
[01:26] <musashiden> khalif: a compaq with a dual athlon
[01:26] <intelikey> odat ok that should be easy enough.    right click on the desktop and make a new link to location / url    set it to  /slave    and  it should be just what you want.
[01:26] <djk_> not because of the op..
[01:26] <odat> erUSUL, stop talking cuz you have no idea
[01:27] <Seveas> Ubuntu is not about ranks
[01:27] <mycket> @khalif: press CTRL+ALT+F1, log in, delete .gconf and *gnome* directories then aptlget install xfce4 or any other Winndowmanagager and choose it at the GDM Login prompt
[01:27] <khalif> Isn't Kubuntu for Macs?
[01:27] <Seveas> We all just try to help :)
[01:27] <musashiden> no...
[01:27] <musashiden> Seveas: well i could really use some help right about now :/
[01:27] <djk_> Seveas: i know, but rather than the 600+noobs/intermediates you seem to know a bit more ;)
[01:27] <djk_> Seveas: hence the impression..
[01:27] <khalif> mycket: Can youstart over and go a littler slower and step by step?
[01:27] <erUSUL> odat, fair enough
[01:27] <Seveas> musashiden, I saw the error and it does not say much
[01:28] <khalif> I'm a total noob!
[01:28] <Seveas> musashiden, a complete xorg log, xorg.conf and lspci output would help more
[01:28] <musashiden> ok
[01:28] <mycket> kalif, yep, i'll try
[01:28] <jonny> Hi guys.  I'm new to ubuntu but I'm loving it.  Would one of you be able to answer a quick question for me?   What directory are the wallpaper image files are held in?
[01:28] <khalif> thanks
[01:28] <intelikey> odat let me stress that the url (address)  is case sensitive.    /Slave
[01:28] <odat> intelikey, permission denied
[01:28] <mycket> press CTRL+Alt+DEL
[01:28] <djk_> would anyone happen to know who packages OOo?
[01:28] <wickedpuppy> mycket, don't you mean ctrl-alt-f1 ?
[01:29] <Seveas> djk_, doko
[01:29] <_jason> for aynone who was unlucky enough to click that link inf posted with the firefox exploit, the "noscript" extension will block the exploit.  I'll be using it from now on personally.
[01:29] <khalif> Ok, I'm logged in terminal
[01:29] <intelikey> odat open a terminal and type 'sudo chmod 777 /Slave '
[01:29] <intelikey> then try again.
[01:29] <mycket> khalif, yes, CTRL+ALT+F1
[01:29] <Seveas> _jason, or you simply don't click on crap from random ircers ;)
[01:29] <djk_> Seveas: never seen doko here, does he/she come to irc?
[01:29] <_jason> Seveas, true, but I thought it was support related
[01:29] <Seveas> djk_, yeah, on the -devel channel
[01:29] <khalif> Alright I'm in.. :)
[01:29] <musashiden> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/447808
[01:30] <Trashcan> ooo, i'm gonna try guild wars under linux
[01:30] <djk_> ah
[01:30] <musashiden> thats the Xorg part
[01:30] <Trashcan> when this stuff stops copying
[01:30] <Trashcan> goooo wine
[01:30] <mycket> khalif, apt-get install xfce4
[01:30] <Seveas> musashiden, ok, now the xorg.conf
[01:30] <regeya> oh, the firefox exploit that's gone as of 1.5
[01:30] <regeya> yeah, firefox 1.5 is great.
[01:30] <regeya> I use it on Windows and OS X.  very stable.
[01:30] <odat> intelikey, permission denied
[01:31] <_jason> regeya, no it's not gone, I'm using firefox 1.5
[01:31] <intelikey> ?
[01:31] <intelikey> odat where ?
[01:31] <khalif> It said it couldn't find the package!
[01:31] <wickedpuppy> odat, how can sudo have permission problem ?
[01:31] <khalif> ;)
[01:31] <odat> intelikey, from the desktop icon i created
[01:32] <odat> wickedpuppy, if i knew would i be here?
[01:32] <intelikey> you ran the command i gave you odat ?
[01:32] <mycket> khalif, try apt-get install fvwm (or twm or fvwm2)
[01:32] <khalif> o trying it now..
[01:32] <mycket> khalif, i hope that any WM ist in the list...
[01:32] <Abyss_Original> ello
[01:32] <Lhikan> hi
[01:32] <odat> intelikey, yes and i can read and right to that directory if i get to it through nautilus but i can not use the launcher icon i created to access it
[01:33] <musashiden> Seveas: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/447813
[01:33] <Abyss_Original> Linux newbie here
[01:33] <Abyss_Original> just played with this live install jobby, and wanna install the full ubuntu 5.10 along side my windows, i have a question
[01:33] <EasterSunshine> everyone is a linux newbie it seems
[01:33] <Seveas> musashiden, the complete file please
[01:33] <Lhikan> can someone help me with wifi internet
[01:33] <DRAGON_Ultra> not all of us R
[01:33] <Abyss_Original> can i do this and boot fro m a SATA drive? and just use one partition for linux?
[01:33] <khalif> Nogo on any of them....
[01:33] <Seveas> !tell Lhikan about anyone
[01:33] <khalif> :(
[01:34] <intelikey> odat you did make sure that the icon(link) is spelled correctly  /Slave  ?
[01:34] <Abyss_Original> well i like sharing knowledge,,but in the subject of linux, i dont think i can share much!!
[01:34] <intelikey> not /slave
[01:34] <owner989> abyss use cfdisk
[01:34] <Seveas> Abyss_Original, yes you can
[01:34] <Abyss_Original> ok kewl, i know many things r possible with linux, its just making it happen!
[01:34] <Seveas> Abyss_Original, the installer will even lwt you shrink your win. partition to create room for linux
[01:35] <mycket> khalif, OK, press CTRL+F7 either the empty screen or the yogin shold appear...
[01:35] <odat> intelikey, ok i'm right clicking on the desktop and selecting create launcher in the command box i'm putting /Slave   then creating the icon on the desktop and when i double click on it  it says permission denied
[01:35] <Abyss_Original> ok, so u think i shud just whack in this ubuntu 5.10 install disk and all the options in there?
[01:35] <Lhikan> i have already imputed my wap settings, yet it won't work
[01:35] <Lhikan> can someone help me
[01:36] <intelikey> odat launcher ?    if you do that  type  "nautilus /Slave "
[01:36] <khalif> Do you want me to log back in?
[01:36] <Lhikan> I have a netgear wg311t
[01:36] <intelikey> ok odat ?
[01:36] <MichaleR> Hullo, anyone here up on upgrade woes with gconf2 ?
[01:36] <odat> intelikey, presto
[01:36] <mycket> khalif, first look, if on the left side is something like "session"
[01:37] <odat> intelikey, thanks man thats all i wanted
[01:37] <regeya> wheee!
[01:37] <intelikey> odat you will have to excuse my gnome illiteracy    i use kde.
[01:37] <khalif> nope. The ctrl + F7 thing didn"t work so I just hit exit...
[01:37] <odat> intelikey, tis ok
[01:37] <intelikey> :)
[01:37] <ramza3> anybody have an answer to this: http://groups.google.com/group/ubuntulinux/browse_thread/thread/feb5cb31a8d9a3be
[01:38] <Lhikan> Can someone help me with wifi internet? I have already imputed my wap settings, yet it won't work. I have a netgear wg311t.
[01:38] <mycket> khalif, no login prompt anymor? Just white lettes on black sreen?
[01:38] <khalif> No I have a login promp but nothing that says session
[01:39] <regeya> kde rocks.
[01:39] <musashiden> Seveas: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/447818
[01:39] <regeya> though right now I'm using xfce.
[01:39] <Lhikan> Anyone?
[01:40] <mycket> khalif, wait a minute, i'll check it on my machine....
[01:40] <khalif> k
[01:40] <Seveas> musashiden, did you install the legacy nvidia driver as explained on the wiki?
[01:40] <musashiden> it was working fine before i upgraded :/
[01:40] <khalif> lhikan, you need to find out if your wireless card is currently supported!
[01:40] <musashiden> wasn't the upgraded supposed to install it?
[01:40] <Lhikan> it is
[01:40] <khalif> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards#head-f4ec44818f740e901d4f5d3368a4a96f4607696d
[01:41] <Lhikan> the list in the wiki said so
[01:41] <Seveas> musashiden, what did you upgrade to?
[01:41] <musashiden> from hoary to breeze
[01:41] <Lhikan>  Netgear
[01:41] <Lhikan> 
[01:41] <Lhikan> 
[01:41] <Lhikan> WG311T
[01:41] <Lhikan> 
[01:41] <Lhikan> 
[01:41] <Lhikan> Atheros AR5212
[01:41] <Lhikan> 
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[01:41] <Lhikan> No
[01:41] <Lhikan> 
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[01:41] <Lhikan> Yes
[01:41] <intelikey> oh my !
[01:41] <Lhikan> 
[01:41] <LjL> Lhikan: don't flood please!
[01:41] <Lhikan> 
[01:41] <Lhikan> Yes
[01:41] <Lhikan> 
[01:41] <LjL> !ops
[01:41] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[01:41] <Lhikan> 
[01:41] <Lhikan> Detected in Network Settings as ath0 and started working once the WAP details were input
[01:41] <Lhikan> 
[01:41] <Lhikan> 
[01:41] <Lhikan> 
[01:42] <Lhikan> 
[01:42] <Lhikan> ?
[01:42] <Lhikan> all i did was paste the text from the wiki in
[01:42] <brosio> tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:32770         0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN     8539/python
[01:42] <brosio> what's this process ?
[01:42] <insipid> hi, im runny ubuntu breezy.. i installed the nvidia drivers and everything and followed directions on the webpage and im getting 8 fps on ut2004 with 800X600 whereas in windows i got 50-60 fps on such a resolution ive tried nearly every faq and how-to ive come accross on google with no success
[01:42] <ajmitch_> brosio: ps axu |grep 8539
[01:42] <ajmitch_> Seveas: thanks
[01:42] <owner989> musashiden do you have the restricted modules package
[01:43] <brosio> hplip     8539  0.0  0.5   8848  5852 ?        S    Dec03   0:00 python /usr/sbin/hpssd
[01:43] <musashiden> errr...
[01:43] <brosio> o_O
[01:43] <insipid> ive also read posts by others with the same graphics card who claim to have BETTER performance than windows... however its unusable in linux for me
[01:43] <brosio> hp driver ?
[01:43] <ajmitch_> brosio: right, there's your answer :)
[01:43] <ajmitch_> brosio: it's not listening on the internet, only to connections that originate on your local computer
[01:43] <insipid> im doing something terribly wrong in order to be only getting 8 fps and im wonder if anyone here has any suggestions or knows where i need to look
[01:43] <musashiden> owner989: i check that how?
[01:44] <owner989> go into synaptic
[01:44] <brosio> yes of course
[01:44] <ajmitch_> brosio: and yes, it is that driver
[01:44] <intelikey> hpssd using tcp  ?
[01:44] <owner989> and see if its installed for your kernel version
[01:44] <brosio> but i don't like it
[01:44] <brosio> :D
[01:44] <intelikey> cups ?
[01:44] <musashiden> owner989: i cant! thats the problem, Xorg wont load up
[01:44] <insipid> use dselect then
[01:44] <musashiden> iam using putty ATM to connect to my destop from my laptop
[01:45] <insipid> so nobody here is using a nvidia card
[01:45] <owner989> musahiden did you sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:45] <owner989> ?
[01:45] <brosio> grave bugs of ssh (-> 1:4.1p1-7ubuntu4) <open>
[01:45] <brosio>  #332863 - SEGV on connect to sshd
[01:45] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid what howto did you follow?
[01:46] <brosio> i don't undesrtand but i breezy
[01:46] <musashiden> owner989: yes
[01:46] <insipid> the howto that ubotu just told me
[01:46] <owner989> you can use vesa to get into x
[01:46] <brosio> can i install package that contains open bugs ?!!
[01:46] <owner989> you have an nvidia card right?
[01:46] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, the binary install howto
[01:46] <musashiden> owner989: yes
[01:46] <khalif> brb!
[01:46] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid do you get the nvidia splash screen when you start gnome?
[01:47] <ramza3> are there quick keys to the windows style WINDOWSKEY-D  (minimize all apps)
[01:47] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, yeah ill turn it off later
[01:47] <ntumba> Hello all, I was wondering if someone could help me - I'm trying to stream to a shoutcast radio
[01:47] <owner989> try easy ubuntu to install the nvidia drivers http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=64629&highlight=ati+driver
[01:47] <insipid> im not sure what that has to do with performance
[01:48] <insipid> the drivers ARE working glxinfo says so
[01:48] <dad_> Hey, is there someone on who can help me with something really sensitive? Like upgrading the kernel sensitive?
[01:48] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid just making sure you are using the drivers and not software accel
[01:48] <owner989> installing a new kernel is safe enough dad
[01:48] <robotgeek_work> ajmitch_,Seveas : a common problem i face when the kernel is upgraded is that it doesn't install the upgraded linux kernel headers package. hence, on the newly installed kernel, i loose stuff like wireless drivers. should i file a bug?
[01:48] <Seveas> !tell dad_ about anyone
[01:48] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid what nvidia chip do you have?
[01:48] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, 5200
[01:48] <Seveas> robotgeek_work, no
[01:48] <Seveas> robotgeek_work, just install the nice metapackages
[01:49] <musashiden> owner989: you are not listening to me, i cant access my desktop unless i use Putty or a terminal window because Xorg is getting an error
[01:49] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid hang on a sec, checking my config
[01:49] <ramza3> with ubu 5.10, can I move the toolbar to the bottom as opposed to the top of the screen
[01:49] <Seveas> if you install linux-686, install linux-headers-686 too
[01:49] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid please paste your xorg.conf file to pastebin.com
[01:49] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, okay 1 sec
[01:49] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid and then let me know the link
[01:50] <mr_daemon> Hello all. I have a Maxtor OneTouch external USB drive. When I opened the box and plugged it in my ubuntu desktop, it automatically mounted in /media and sprung on the desktop. I copied some files to it for a LAN party, then unmounted it and took it off. Now when I plug it in, it is detected, as per dmesg, but doesn't automagically mounts, and doesn't springs on the desktop either... anything else I plug in works, like this USB memory key over th
[01:50] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, pastebin is under contruction
[01:50] <dad_> My update manager says that I need to take special action to upgrade certain packages. Specifically the kernel image and restricted modules. Anyone know why it's telling me this, and if I should take any precautions before doing it?
[01:50] <robotgeek_work> Seveas: ppc here, so that would be 'linux-headers-powerpc'
[01:50] <The_Isle_of_Mark> !pastebin
[01:50] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[01:50] <The_Isle_of_Mark> ubuntu.pastebin.com
[01:51] <owner989> mushaiden i said use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select
[01:51] <owner989> vesa
[01:51] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, lol so thats how you use the bot thanks
[01:51] <robotgeek_work> Seveas: thanks, did not notice that before. looks like you guys have taken care of pretty much everything :)
[01:52] <dad_> insipid you can also message him keywords and he'll sometimes spit out usefull imformation about it.
[01:52] <pozdiy> have double boot system with windows, once got from ubotu a very nice sh script to automatically mount existing windows partitions but unfortunately lost the bookmark, anybody knows about that script?
[01:52] <Seveas> robotgeek_work, linux-headers-ppc methinks
[01:52] <ilcid> If I install a geforce 6600gt, will the x server work? I currently have a radeon 9200se and running breezy
[01:52] <robotgeek_work> Seveas: i got it, it's powerpc
[01:52] <mycket> khalif, still there?
[01:53] <robotgeek_work> ubotu: tell pozdiy about windowsdrives
[01:53] <khalif> yep! :)
[01:53] <jgrieves> does anyone use dual monitors here?
[01:53] <dad_> Okay, well thanks for hearing me all. I'm just gonna hope it's telling me the correct thing to do.
[01:53] <owner989> it will ilcid but you will have to install the nvidia drivers instead
[01:53] <pozdiy> robotgeek_work, tnx
[01:54] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/447829
[01:54] <jgrieves> i want the cursor to switch screens a whole lot less
[01:54] <ilcid> owner989 how will I go about doing that?
[01:54] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid ok give me a minute
[01:54] <jgrieves> so when I hit an edge, now it switches
[01:54] <jgrieves> from 1 display to the other
[01:54] <mycket> khalif, on my login screen under the input-field i see "sprache" (language) and "sitzung" (session) does it appear on your screen, too?
[01:54] <blanky> hey guys what's your favorite dvd ripper
[01:54] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid change the part that says RenderAccel to true
[01:55] <khalif> You mean the regular login or the terminal log in?
[01:55] <mycket> yep
[01:55] <blanky> inspid what's your problem
[01:55] <mycket> try terminal login
[01:55] <khalif> hold on, let me check....
[01:56] <dad_> blanky I have never used one in linux. Just in doze.
[01:56] <ramza3> how do I update the package manager list
[01:56] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid then do a sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[01:56] <owner989> try easy ubuntu ilcid http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=64629&highlight=ati+driver
[01:56] <mr_daemon> Any ideas anyone? The disk doesn't mount automatically anymore, but just that disk in particular.
[01:56] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid I need to help my wife for a second...brb
[01:56] <blanky> hey guys what's your favorite dvd ripper
[01:57] <dad_> blanky if you dual boot into 'doze, dvd shrink rocks.
[01:57] <ilcid> thanks owner989
[01:57] <ilcid> ill try that
[01:57] <dad_> bye
[01:57] <intelikey> mr_daemon check your fstab ?
[01:57] <khalif> My terminal window doesn't display any of that. Just "Breezy Badger" and a warrenty disclaimer.....
[01:57] <blanky> dvd srhink, okay
[01:57] <blanky> *shrink
[01:58] <mr_daemon> intelikey: That shouldn't matter, I was expecting dbus, hal and friends to handle the drive just like it handles memory keys.
[01:58] <mycket> no bash shell? No OK button?
[01:59] <intelikey> mr_daemon i agree except if it is aliased in fstab it may prevent "those guys" from taking over.
[01:59] <khalif> I think it only shows the shell info when I execute  a command...
[01:59] <khalif> like if I execute top it say:
[01:59] <intelikey> mr_daemon it was just a though.
[02:00] <khalif> actually that was a bad example...
[02:00] <khalif> if i execute free....
[02:00] <mycket> khalif, on that shell enter "sudo synaptic"
[02:00] <khalif> actually that was a bad example too, lol!
[02:00] <khalif> ok
[02:01] <niko> Just curious: every time I boot ubuntu, the first line (while the kernel is initializing) is something like "audit (<timestamp>): initialized" -- what is this and where can I learn more?
[02:01] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid
[02:01] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, tell me when you get back i just did that and it made no difference whatsoever.. i put it to false because i heard there was a bug memory leaks.. anyways still unnacountable and unbearable fps.. its bad
[02:01] <soundray> Anyone around for a bash question?
[02:01] <intelikey> niko kernel docs
[02:01] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid I am not an expert, but lets see what we can do
[02:02] <intelikey> soundray  :)
[02:02] <khalif> Ok, it says "Gtk-WARNING: cannot open display:
[02:02] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid do a sudo apt-get install apt-show-versions
[02:02] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, i appreciate the help.. even if we dont figure it out.. helping on irc is a pain :)
[02:02] <mwe> soundray: ask away. people will answer if they can
[02:02] <khalif> What is synaptic?
[02:02] <grant_> Hey guys.
[02:02] <soundray> I like to use for i in $(cat file) to process a file word-by-word.
[02:02] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid did you see the last post about apt-get?
[02:02] <hhurtta> khalif: gui for aptget
[02:03] <soundray> Now I'd like to process it line by line instead. Is that possible? Easy?
[02:03] <niko> intelikey, I did a google on Linux kernel audit (but found nothing relevant) any hints as to what type of an audit it is?
[02:03] <khalif> thanks hhurtta
[02:03] <mwe> soundray: maybe for i in $(`cat file`) will work
[02:03] <PokerFacePenguin> read $i
[02:03] <insipid> yeah installing now
[02:03] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid ok cool
[02:03] <grant_> Can anyone help me with changing resolution/refresh rate within GDM? My screen seems to be split in two. It was like this when I originally installed Breezy, though I can change the refresh rate within gnome, just not GDM.
[02:03] <mycket> khalif, ooups - then "/etc/init.d/gdm/restart" first. Synaptic is the software manager where you can choose what programs you want
[02:03] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, done, wow i love apt
[02:04] <mycket> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm/restart
[02:04] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, ubuntu has all the good features of debian witihout the bad :)
[02:04] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid when it finishes do a sudo apt-show-version | grep -i nvidia
[02:04] <khalif> should change to that directory or what?
[02:04] <The_Isle_of_Mark> bad debian?
[02:04] <insipid> apt-show-version | grep =i nvidia
[02:04] <niko> soundray, what kind of "process" and why not use "awk"
[02:04] <khalif> ok
[02:04] <insipid> whoops
[02:04] <The_Isle_of_Mark> heheh
[02:04] <levander> Anybody can tell me why when I chroot to where /dev/hda2 is mounted everything works fine, but the output of a basic 'mount' command now thinks /dev/hda2 is /dev/hda3?
[02:04] <The_Isle_of_Mark> versions
[02:04] <mr_daemon> intelikey: Good call but I already tried that =/
[02:04] <The_Isle_of_Mark> note the s
[02:05] <slashx1896> Hey all
[02:05] <insipid> nvidia-kernel-common/unknown uptodate 1.0.7667+1
[02:05] <insipid> nvidia-glx/unknown uptodate 1.0.7667-0ubuntu25.1
[02:05] <mycket> no, just type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" it will restart the X Display Mananger
[02:05] <jgrieves> i can't seem to find the guides on dual display
[02:05] <jgrieves> does ubotu know?
[02:05] <T80U> Ive got Teamspeak2 server running, it works fine on lan but it seems that it wont work on the net
[02:05] <slashx1896> is their some sort of task manager? i have something open but it wont close.. i hit X and nothing opens im burning a cd and i wantto stop burning the cd
[02:05] <soundray> niko, adding something in between each line, and, yeah, awk might be the thing. I just haven't made friends with it yet...
[02:05] <grant_> Anyone have advice for my previous question?
[02:05] <khalif> says command not found....
[02:05] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid do a uname -r
[02:05] <intelikey> soundray hmmm maybe something like "`grep -ie [a-z]  file`"  not sure,  i've never actually tried to keep whole lines togather in a for statement......
[02:05] <slashx1896> *i hit X and rite click and hit close and it wont close
[02:05] <jgrieves> slashx1896 System Tools > System Monitor
[02:05] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, apt-show-version | grep =i nvidia
[02:06] <insipid> gah
[02:06] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, sorry
[02:06] <mycket> kahlif, and if you press CTRL+F7 ?
[02:06] <erUSUL> slashx1896, try xkill
[02:06] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, 2.6.12-9-amd64-generic
[02:06] <The_Isle_of_Mark> ah amd64
[02:06] <PokerFacePenguin> soundray: have you seen the advanced bash scripting guide?
[02:06] <owner989> insipid whats the isle of mark
[02:06] <soundray> mwe, your suggestion doesn't work...
[02:06] <jgrieves> slashx1896 I have it as a shortcut sequence , looks like win task manager
[02:06] <niko> soundray, I finally took the plunge about 8 months ago, and its amazing!  Very easy to learn.
[02:06] <insipid> owner989, its the isle where mark lives?
[02:06] <slashx1896> kk
[02:06] <jgrieves> anyone using dual display in here? working fine I need some configuration help
[02:07] <soundray> PokerFacePenguin, I remember having seen that, I'll look it up again, thanks.
[02:07] <khalif> nothing happens when I press ctrl +f7
[02:07] <PokerFacePenguin> soundray: i wonder about those parenthesis he gave you
[02:07] <owner989> khalif did you get in x yet
[02:07] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid amd64...I dont know if the setup is the same, but my system amd 32 2600 needed nvidia-settings too
[02:07] <niko> soundray, You can easily add stuff after each line. REGEX is your friend.
[02:07] <PokerFacePenguin> soundray: its actually in the repos
[02:07] <intelikey> soundray did you try what i said ?
[02:07] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid do a sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[02:07] <khalif> yeah, I did the x seve thing. didn't work
[02:07] <erUSUL> khalif, crtl + Alt + f7 to get to X
[02:07] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, i actually looked for that package so i could get a gui interface setup but it doesnt exist
[02:07] <grant_> No one knows how to change screen resolution for GDM?
[02:07] <owner989> its ctrl alt f1
[02:08] <owner989> to goto console
[02:08] <soundray> intelikey, not yet -- too many suggestions at once :)
[02:08] <blanky> hey guys is there a way/script in gnome nautilus so that I can do something like 'start terminal here...' so it'd start the terminal at that directory?
[02:08] <intelikey> k
[02:08] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid do you have the 32 bit handlers installed?
[02:08] <musik> how do i pause the downloading of an iso with wget to resume downloading later?
[02:08] <khalif> That just took me back to the Ubuntu user/pass screen...
[02:08] <mycket> khalif, the "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" soult restart your X-Server too
[02:08] <djk_> does anyone know of a program for disjunctive normal form and conjunctive normal form?
[02:08] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, doubt it
[02:08] <intelikey> i'll go play with it a few minutes.  i'm sure we can come up with something
[02:08] <khalif> let me try it again!
[02:09] <mustard5> grant_, I take it that System>>Preferences>>Resolutions has been suggested?
[02:09] <drumline> I'm looking to partition this laptop accordingly.  What's the maximum you guys would think I'd need for Ubuntu?   I'll be using a FAT32 part between XP and Ubuntu.
[02:09] <blanky> hey guys is there a way/script in gnome nautilus so that I can do something like 'start terminal here...' so it'd start the terminal at that directory?
[02:09] <brosio> azureus isn't in repository ? :|
[02:09] <blanky> !automatix
[02:09] <grant_> mustard5, this only changes resolution within gnome, not GDM.
[02:09] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid I think the amd64 just shot my knowledge all to pieces
[02:09] <drumline> On this empty system, I have 2.6 gigs used and I don't see it going much past that, but I wanted to check here.
[02:09] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid I dont know anything about them
[02:09] <khalif> ok That last sudo took me back to the Ubuntu log-in screen...
[02:09] <erUSUL> blanky, nautilus-open-terminal
[02:10] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid let me see if I can find out something
[02:10] <grant_> mustard5, It's the refresh rate, that is causing me greif. I have also manually editing xorg.conf, however made no difference either :S
[02:10] <mustard5> grant_, hmm ok...I'm confused by what the difference is between gnome and GDM (Gnome Desktop Manager)
[02:10] <mycket> khalif, OK, choose session and terminal
[02:10] <intelikey> soundray
[02:10] <intelikey> soundray !
[02:10] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, okay.. i do know other people with amd64's have been successful with the drivers.. better fps with the ut2004 benchmark
[02:10] <intelikey> hey soundray !
[02:10] <soundray> intelikey, I'm here
[02:10] <mycket> you should see a white bash shell window afer logging in
[02:11] <mustard5> grant_, and you have restarted your X server since making the changes?
[02:11] <intelikey> yeah it seems to work
[02:11] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid ok then...lets try it..I'll dig for info for just a second and get right back with you
[02:11] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, think i might have to go old school and compile a kernel? okay ill wait
[02:11] <intelikey> i just checked it with "for this in "`grep -ie [a-z]  .bashrc `" ;do echo "$this" ;done "
[02:11] <grant_> It does not change the resolution at GDM, GDM is still displaying the wrong refresh rate for my screen, cause it to have a big fuzzy line down the centre, and everything mirrored, however once I log on, it all goes to the right rate.
[02:11] <grant_> Yes, I have both restarted X and rebooted computer.
[02:11] <khalif> Choose failsafe terminal?
[02:11] <mycket> yes failsafe terminal
[02:12] <mustard5> grant_, hmm ok..so the issue is only appearing on the login screen?
[02:12] <soundray> intelikey, cool.
[02:12] <intelikey> only thing it will skip blank lines and lines with only numbers,  if that makes a differance soundray
[02:12] <grant_> Mustard5, yes, that is correct.
[02:12] <soundray> intelikey, now I need to translate that to my problem...
[02:12] <mustard5> grant_, ah ok ..I see the distinction now
[02:12] <pozdiy> followed bluetooth howto and got my bt-usb stick mounted, how to unmount it - or is it plugnplay?
[02:12] <khalif> Ok, I'm in the white terminal screen!
[02:13] <mustard5> I wonder if its a matter of the order in which things are being done
[02:13] <grant_> I am not sure if there is a specific configuration file now for the login screen, other than the one in System menu.
[02:13] <mycket> khalif, OK, try "sudo synaptic" again
[02:13] <mustard5> grant_,  I wonder if its a matter of the order in which things are being done
[02:13] <intelikey> so does that mean i can be the bash guy for the day soundray ?
[02:13] <grant_> I believe it should be setting the refresh rate before the login screen, not after.
[02:13] <snorks> to rar a folder to filename.rar is that "rar a -r folder name.rar"?
[02:14] <khalif> Ok, a Window popped up! :)
[02:15] <bash_guy_4_t`day> shucks, i only get that honer for 3 minutes.    i gota go folks.  have fun without me.
[02:15] <nekostar> how do i make ssh listen on a port different than 22?
[02:15] <PokerFacePenguin> soundray: if you are reading filenames, it probably wont like spaces in them
[02:15] <bash_guy_4_t`day> err honner even
[02:15] <pozdiy> pozdiy, sudo /etc/init.d/bluez-utils stop ?
[02:15] <grant_> Mustard5, any suggestions on how to correct the order that it sets the resolution?
[02:15] <nekostar> !ssh
[02:15] <ubotu> ssh is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SSHHowto
[02:15] <khalif> Oh my god, you got me this far! What's next? :)!
[02:16] <mustard5> grant_, I'm trying to think of something for sure..but I'm not having any light bulbs go off atm :)
[02:16] <soundray> PokerFacePenguin, no, they aren't filenames. Parameters for a condor execution.
[02:16] <mycket> khalif, Thats the package manager. Look for settings an something like package sources (i have a german distribution...)
[02:16] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid you loaded the 64 bit drivers, right?
[02:16] <grant_> mustard5, that's ok, thanks for your help :)
[02:16] <PokerFacePenguin> soundray: ah...just thought i might point that out
[02:16] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, i believe so, if i didnt im sure x wouldnt be working
[02:17] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid just checking
[02:17] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, i got the restricted modules package for me 64 bit kernel
[02:17] <khalif> Nothing that says package sources.....wha else might it be that you want me to access?
[02:17] <quacker> The_Isle_of_Mark, I'm tired of your insipid mewling (just wanted to say that -- heh)
[02:18] <quacker> (or mewling to insipid)
[02:18] <mustard5> grant_, I'm just looking for something in the forums....brb
[02:18] <grant_> Thanks, I've looked before, had no luck however.
[02:18] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid I think I am out of my element...and I hate having to give up, but I dont know enough about the 64 bit arch to help you I did find thishttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368 that is a bit dated, but it had some info a couple of pages in...just change the versions as you are dling them to install
[02:18] <khalif> I see suff like "base system"
[02:19] <mustard5> grant_, found something... http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=69333&highlight=gdm+login+screen+refresh+rate
[02:19] <khalif> development
[02:19] <soundray> mwe, niko, PokerFacePenguin and intelikey: Thanks for your suggestions. Got things to try out now :)
[02:19] <khalif> GNOME desktop environment
[02:19] <mustard5> grant_, it seems the login screen uses the first listed xorg.conf setting
[02:20] <ChAdWiCk> hi guys, im trying to install php4 and i get this error chad@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install php4
[02:20] <ChAdWiCk> Password:
[02:20] <ChAdWiCk> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[02:20] <ChAdWiCk> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[02:20] <ChAdWiCk> any ideas?
[02:20] <mycket> khalif, press the search button and search for xfce4 or fvwm or fluxbox
[02:20] <grant_> mustard5, I'll give it a shot, one minute.
[02:20] <LjL> ChAdWiCk: you have synaptic or something open, close it
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> ChAdWiCk,  close synaptic :P
[02:20] <mustard5> ChAdWiCk, close synaptic
[02:20] <vbgunz> What is the Lost+Found folder for in my home directory?
[02:20] <LjL> ChAdWiCk: and please use the pastebin to paste ;)
[02:20] <ChAdWiCk> thanks guys :)
[02:20] <Corrupter> how do i check to see if i have a firewall enabled?
[02:20] <mycket> khalif, these are graphical window managers, whre you can start and use programs with X
[02:20] <ChAdWiCk> sorry LjL
[02:21] <niko>    soundray, good luck. The nice thing about awk (vs. grep) is that you can "add lines" based on multiple regex cases. Very easy too.
[02:21] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, thanks ill read it
[02:21] <jgrieves> anyone know anything about dual monitor support, i need some help with configuration
[02:21] <snorks> i've read manpage but still dont get it. if i stand in ~ and want to rar ~/2k/ with the same filename as the folder, what is the correct line?
[02:22] <Millenniumgroup> hi... I tried to install vmware workstation.. and it gave me an errior (right after tar) saying A previous installation of VMware software has been detected.
[02:22] <Millenniumgroup> The previous installation was made by the tar installer (version 3).
[02:22] <khalif> no dice on any of those. Any other searches?
[02:22] <Corrupter> for some reason not a single bittorrent client will work for me, every file i download never connects, any idea's?
[02:22] <Millenniumgroup> I only tared, and getting ready to install it, but evry time I try to ./xxxx.pl it keeps saying it's already installed by tar
[02:22] <MonkeyBlue> I need to remove a driver
[02:23] <MonkeyBlue> yet i cant find a single way to
[02:23] <owner989> sounds like you need to configure your router corrupter
[02:23] <mycket> you found GNOME desktop environment? Thats the thing that does noot work on your machine. Try to reinstall it (right mouse button)
[02:23] <MonkeyBlue> wha?
[02:23] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, ouch this is the official installer
[02:23] <PokerFacePenguin> Corrupter: man btdownloadgui
[02:23] <LjL> MonkeyBlue: what kind of driver?
[02:23] <MonkeyBlue> A WLAN card
[02:23] <MonkeyBlue> I had it working through ndiswrapper
[02:23] <MonkeyBlue> but I reinstalled Ubuntu
[02:24] <jonathon> i want to make a nautilus script that opens a sudo nautilus and i want the password thing to come up like it does for other programs how can i do that?
[02:24] <MonkeyBlue> and it has a driver from ubuntu
[02:24] <ChAdWiCk> with the repository closed :) i get this error http://cpp.enisoc.com/pastebin/6508
[02:24] <MonkeyBlue>  and  it isnt working
[02:24] <SOMNIVM> does anyone have a working lexmark x1100 scanner on ubuntu?
[02:24] <ordinary> Don't let your small children in the sexcopter8000m !
[02:24] <snorks> i've read manpage but still dont get it. if i stand in ~ and want to rar ~/2k/ with the same filename as the folder, what is the correct line?
[02:24] <LjL> MonkeyBlue: drivers are often kernel modules, so "rmmod <module-name>" could do it
[02:24] <hydroksyde> MonkeyBlue: You don't have "drivers" with a monolithic kernel
[02:24] <hydroksyde> you have kernel modules
[02:24] <Millenniumgroup> hmm I take it the problem is a rare one? :/
[02:24] <khalif> I cn't right click with the laptop buttons.... is there another wway to do it?
[02:24] <Millenniumgroup> im the only one trying to use vmware in here?
[02:24] <snorks> definiately not
[02:25] <snorks> me too. i gave up
[02:25] <jonathon> hello?
[02:25] <LjL> hydroksyde: actually, i don't see why a kernel module can't *be* a driver ;)
[02:25] <jgrieves> Millenniumgroup i use vmware
[02:25] <snorks> Millenniumgroup: i got asked for C headers
[02:25] <snorks> Millenniumgroup: etc
[02:25] <MonkeyBlue> Ljl: wheres the modules name
[02:25] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, this doesnt really apply to me since the application im runing uses the 64 bit libraries my problem is not the compatibility
[02:25] <LjL> hydroksyde: and on the other hand, a kernel module does not *have* to be a driver, nor does a driver have to be a kernel module in all cases
[02:25] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, but thanks anyways
[02:25] <hydroksyde> MokeyBlue: Run lsmod
[02:25] <LjL> MonkeyBlue: i don't know, but type "lsmod", and you'll see all the modules you have loaded
[02:25] <jgrieves> Millenniumgroup i never recieved that
[02:25] <LjL> MonkeyBlue: hopefully, you'll be able to guess the right name from the list
[02:25] <jgrieves> Millenniumgroup i recieved the same things snorks got
[02:25] <Millenniumgroup> ok guys, do you know how to continue my install? after I tared it.. I tried to ./xxx.pl but it kept on saying alrayd installed by tar
[02:26] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid I used it in on deb, but I have the same card in one of my systems and the ubuntu install worked great doom3 runs just fine with a 5200 128 mb
[02:26] <Millenniumgroup> hmm
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> SOMNIVM,  check the "SANE" homepage for what scanners are supported and how well they are supported
[02:26] <mycket> khalif, press Enter or the second button (actualize or something like that)
[02:26] <SOMNIVM> Dr_Willis, I did..it is supported, but I cannot access it
[02:26] <niko> I'm all Googled-out ... need some spoon feeding ... is there a Linux Kernel for Dummies website that will tell me what  "audit (<timestamp>) intializing" is all about? Is the audit accessible from UserLand?
[02:26] <SteveW> someone ! tell SteveW about raid
[02:26] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid matter of fact let me switch to that system and we can check it against it..again with the caveat that it is amd32
[02:27] <PokerFacePenguin> !raid
[02:27] <ubotu> I heard raid is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto
[02:27] <SOMNIVM> scanimage -L returns
[02:27] <SOMNIVM> device `lexmark:/dev/usb/scanner0' is a Lexmark X1100 flatbed scanner
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> SOMNIVM,  hmm.. i was suprised my scanner worked so well.. may want to check the forums/wikis and see if anyone else has used one.. if that fails its Google time. :(
[02:27] <SOMNIVM> but there is no /dev/usb/scanner0
[02:27] <jonathon> how do i make a password promt for programs?
[02:27] <khalif> Ok... GNOME is in the 'SECTION' window. When I clicked on it, a list of files popped up in the 'PACKAGES' window. Whick package do I look for?
[02:27] <SteveW> !if only that we enough
[02:27] <ubotu> No idea, SteveW
[02:27] <LjL> SOMNIVM: if scanimage -L reports it, it usually means it's working
[02:28] <LjL> SOMNIVM: what happens if you actually try to use it?
[02:28] <Lord_Maynoth> so do you guys think dapper will autodetect your windows parititions for you?
[02:28] <mustard5> grant_, how did it go?
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> Lord_Maynoth,  i Hope they make it do so.
[02:28] <Lord_Maynoth> if not how much longer do you think we will have to wait
[02:28] <grant_> mustard5, didn't make any difference, I'm not sure if I understand what I'm supposed to do.
[02:28] <SOMNIVM> LjL, scanimage: open of device lexmark:/dev/usb/scanner0 failed: Invalid argument
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> Lord_Maynoth,  that will eliminate about 10% of the questions in here. Lol.
[02:28] <LjL> SOMNIVM: that's when running it with sudo?
[02:28] <SOMNIVM> yep
[02:28] <SOMNIVM> in su mode
[02:29] <Lord_Maynoth> it would be nice to have a simple device manager to install and unistall drivers
[02:29] <mustard5> grant_, from what I read in the thread it uses the first 'supported' resolution/refresh rating that is listed in your xorg.conf
[02:29] <SirKillalot> do you know a better archive manager than file-roller or ark?
[02:29] <SOMNIVM> I'm verry confused now... I tried to create the device myself...but it's still not working
[02:29] <mycket> all, gnome has a lot of packages. press OK or appy or so. synaptic should install all needed packages
[02:29] <mustard5> grant_, you used the pastebin before?
[02:29] <grant_> mustard5, is there anyway I can send you/show you my xorg.conf?
[02:30] <mustard5> ubotu: tell grant_ about pastebin
[02:30] <grant_> No, what is Pastebin?
[02:30] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid ok I am at my machine with the 5200
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> Lord_Maynoth,  well lets see.. on my last linux box. i dident have to install 'any' drivers :) they were all allready there.
[02:30] <mustard5> grant_, look for message from ubotu
[02:30] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, okay except to run doom 3 on minimum
[02:30] <Lord_Maynoth> yeah but it would be nice to be able to upgrade and install new ones if they were not
[02:30] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, doom 3 had to be minimum on my comp in windows
[02:30] <LjL> SOMNIVM: try "export SANE_DEBUG_DLL=128" and "export SANE_DEBUG_LEXMARK=128" (assuming "LEXMARK" is correct)
[02:30] <grant_> I see.
[02:30] <Lord_Maynoth> seems like a basic functionality that both windows and macOSX provide
[02:31] <LjL> SOMNIVM: at least you could get a better idea of what's not working
[02:31] <grant_> So you want to me post my xorg.conf on there?
[02:31] <BlackSolaris> Hey guys, with the help of my spanish teacher (an avid Ubuntuer) I was able to edit /etc/modules I think it was so that I didn't have to start ndiswrapper from the terminal when I logged on to use my wireless card, but I forget what the command is to allow access to the file... any ideas?
[02:31] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, however, it was very very playable
[02:31] <mustard5> grant_, paste your xorg.conf in there..hit submit ..and then show me the URL
[02:31] <grant_> ok :)
[02:31] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid I ran it at medium with this machine...my other one runs great on ultra with a 6800 :P
[02:31] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid ok so you could not find the nvidia-settings package?
[02:31] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, wow.. i really wish i could get stuff working right in linux people say it runs so much better
[02:31] <ChAdWiCk> trying to install mysql 4 i get the following error
[02:31] <ChAdWiCk>  http://cpp.enisoc.com/pastebin/6508
[02:31] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, correct
[02:32] <hydroksyde> Lord_Maynoth: It's just a matter of nobody implementing one
[02:32] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid have you tried searching it in synaptic?
[02:32] <insipid> yes
[02:32] <insipid> and dpkg search
[02:32] <The_Isle_of_Mark> hmm
[02:32] <Lord_Maynoth> well its a basic functionality somebody should implement
[02:32] <niko> Any experts on kernel boot messages in the house?
[02:32] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid I am using it right now as we speak
[02:33] <LjL> Lord_Maynoth: i'm not sure implementing it is that easy in linux
[02:33] <wickedpuppy> Lord_Maynoth, why not you ?
[02:33] <hydroksyde> Lord_Maynoth: Maybe, but Linux is quite different from windows. It would require a bit more abstraction. Which would take more work, and abstraction annoys some people
[02:33] <grant_> mustard5. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/447855
[02:33] <mustard5> grant_, thanks..checking it out now
[02:33] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, this is what i get
[02:34] <hydroksyde> Of course, If it's possible in Mac OS X, it shouldn't be to difficult in Linux
[02:34] <insipid> insipid@gimli:~/ut2004$ sudo dpkg --search nvidia-settings
[02:34] <insipid> nvidia-glx: /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/nvidia-settings-user-guide.txt.gz
[02:34] <SOMNIVM> LjL, look at this:
[02:34] <SOMNIVM> [lexmark]  x1100_usb_bulk_write: returned Invalid argument (size = 4, expected 4)
[02:34] <SOMNIVM> [lexmark]  x1100_usb_bulk_read: returned Invalid argument (size = 255, expected 255)
[02:34] <Lord_Maynoth> I am not a dev I am an end user...  I am not going to spend the next 20 years learning to code worth a crap just to add a basic feature every other consumer os has to linux
[02:34] <SOMNIVM> hahahahahaha
[02:34] <wickedpuppy> Lord_Maynoth, if everyone think that way ... you won't be using linux now
[02:34] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid have you sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[02:34] <The_Isle_of_Mark> ?
[02:34] <hydroksyde> Lord_Maynoth: The way to do this in linux is to get the kernel source, run make gconfig, switch on what you do need and switch off what you don't
[02:35] <insipid> Package nvidia-settings is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:35] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid you have all the repos enabled?
[02:35] <Red-Sox> i have windows installed right now, I want ubuntu too, I installed windows on a 250g hard drive, but on a 100g partition, If I install ubuntu on a new partition, does it automaticly install grub, and when I start up, grub pops up, i choose which one I want, and viola, its done? is it that simple? P.S. windows partition is C://
[02:35] <Lord_Maynoth> should be able to add/remove/upgrade device drivers from gui
[02:36] <hydroksyde> gconfig is a GUI
[02:36] <mustard5> grant_, still thinking about it....:)
[02:36] <hydroksyde> However, I don't think there's any reason why a heavilly modular distro like ubuntu shouldn't
[02:36] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid got to system>administration>synaptic package manager
[02:36] <khalif> *WHEW!* I finally got all of the packages selected. What's next?
[02:36] <grant_> :)
[02:36] <grant_> mustard5, Inside breezy, i am running 1024x768 @75khz, not sure if that helps you.
[02:36] <jonathon> what command can i use to make natilus open n the current directory?
[02:37] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, okay i remember editing my sources.list i THINK i got them all.. okay im in synaptic
[02:37] <mycket> khalif, try to install or apply
[02:37] <khalif> ok
[02:37] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid once there click settings repos
[02:37] <niko> Where can one learn about kernel boot messages?
[02:37] <pepsi> jonathon, nautilus ./ ?
[02:37] <mustard5> grant_, yeah...I was wondering what that 'modeline' part was...did you add that?
[02:37] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid actually reposotories
[02:37] <grant_> Yes.
[02:37] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, yep i know it says i got universe
[02:37] <mustard5> grant_, k...
[02:37] <wickedpuppy> niko, google
[02:37] <grant_> I also added the vertrefresh and horizrefresh, didn't seem to make any difference however :S
[02:38] <mustard5> grant_, k
[02:38] <niko> wickedpuppy -- been there done that
[02:38] <jonathon> nautilus ./  ??
[02:38] <wickedpuppy> niko, if not on google then its going to be tough ... don't you think ?
[02:38] <khalif> had to put my disc back in. it'll be a sec......
[02:38] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, what am i looking for here
[02:38] <mycket> khalif, ok
[02:39] <pepsi> jonathon, is that not what you want?
[02:39] <Red-Sox> is it that simple?
[02:39] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid the nvidia-settings is in the Restricted copyright section
[02:39] <wickedpuppy> niko, you can always email to linus ... search for linus email at osdl.org ... i forgot the exact name
[02:39] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid is that enabled?
[02:39] <niko> wickedpuppy, yeah, that's why I'm asking here. Unfortuneatly the term is too general ("audit <timestamp> initializing")
[02:39] <jonathon> doesnt seem to work
[02:39] <mustard5> grant_, so did you add that in an attempt to fix this problem or another problem?
[02:39] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, i only see it in backports
[02:40] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, ill check my sources.list
[02:40] <niko> wickedpuppy LOL, ask linus himself? like he doesn't have better things to do then teach newbies
[02:40] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid are you using breezy?
[02:40] <grant_> In attempt to fix this problem.
[02:40] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[02:40] <insipid> oops
[02:40] <insipid> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[02:40] <wickedpuppy> niko, he does really ... subscribe to kernel mailing list .. he is busy teaching newbie kernel hackers
[02:40] <mustard5> grant_, k..well I'm thinking you should backup your current xorg.conf and try it without it
[02:41] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, yes.. im not used to this synaptic if you wondering why i do everything in the console
[02:41] <mustard5> grant_, are you using ctrl + alt + backspace to restart GDM ?
[02:41] <rambo3> fixed my alsa sound card problem , bought a new sound card . ali M5455 doesnt work with this new kernel
[02:41] <grant_> Though, it won't make any difference? as it was like this before I added that.
[02:41] <grant_> Yes.
[02:41] <rambo3> !java
[02:41] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[02:41] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid I normally do to, dont sweat it
[02:41] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid ok so in synaptic clisk settings repos and then click add
[02:41] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, anyways deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe      i need to add main restricted right?
[02:41] <niko> wickedpuppy, I'm way below a kernel hacker ; I just want to know if there is userland info available about this "audit" thing. And/or what is the audit thing anyway?
[02:42] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid select the restricted and add it
[02:42] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid yes!
[02:42] <PokerFacePenguin> niko: http://www.linux-m32r.org/lxr/http/source/kernel/audit.c
[02:42] <hosler_> where can i download the w32codecs?
[02:42] <mustard5> grant_, I'm not too good with xorg.conf problems :)
[02:42] <jonathon> im running the command gksudo nautilus ./ and it fails
[02:42] <Tom39|ubuntu> Hi al, I'm attempting to use Breezy to remote desktop conncet into Windows XP.  I have Windows XP running Ultra VNC, and I'm trying to connect with Terminal Server Client from Breezy.  What kind of settings do I need to tell the tsclient to get it working?
[02:42] <wickedpuppy> niko, what was the search term you used for google ?
[02:42] <niko> PokerFacePenguin, thanks a lot , I'll check it out
[02:42] <rambo3> !codecs
[02:42] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[02:43] <grant_> hehe.
[02:43] <niko> wickedpuppy: GOOGLE  audit linux kernel
[02:43] <jonathon> im running the command gksudo nautilus ./ and it fails anyone know why?
[02:43] <hosler_> !easysource
[02:43] <ubotu> I guess easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:43] <rambo3> sudo nautilus ?
[02:43] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, tada i see it!... that was almost as easy as editing sources.list
[02:43] <wickedpuppy> niko, happy reading the c code ... :P
[02:43] <jonathon> gksudo
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> jonathon,  any more secific error? running Nautilus as root is sort of.. well... nasty :P
[02:43] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid easier really...come on admit it lol
[02:43] <PokerFacePenguin> wickedpuppy: it gives the goals tho
[02:44] <grant_> mustard, I'll restart gdm again.
[02:44] <steve_laptop> HELP lol can someone please tell me how to set up access to all users for NETGO?
[02:44] <jonathon> its the gksudo i think
[02:44] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid ok so get that installed and run it...nice setting can be modified with it
[02:44] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, as a lover of the terminal NEVER! :P GUI's are sinful
[02:44] <jonathon> i got an idea for a work around anyway
[02:44] <niko> wickedpuppy, I'll take a look, I've dipped my toes in those waters 10 yrs ago
[02:44] <insipid> like beer
[02:44] <rambo3> system -> administration ->users
[02:44] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid without GUIs there is no ut2004
[02:44] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, shhh :)
[02:45] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid of course you could play it in ascii I guess
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> DOOM with the ascii lib!
[02:45] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, im not supposed to install closed sources drivers eeeep and binary video games!!! the debian community will shoot me
[02:45] <vbgunz> does Linux have any really cool FREE 1st person shooter games?
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> vbgunz,  RTCW:ET
[02:45] <PokerFacePenguin> wickedpuppy: basically looks like it is the "go between" for talking between the kernel and "user space"
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> vbgunz,  http://www.fileplanet.com/124801/120000/fileinfo/Return-to-Castle-Wolfenstein:-Enemy-Territory-Client-v2.60-%5BLinux%5D
[02:46] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid I am a cli guy myself..and yeah I converted from deb a couple weeks ago...I am not looking back I love ubuntu
[02:46] <khalif> OK, all packages have been installed.....
[02:46] <vbgunz> Dr_Willis: I loved RTCW but ET is the MP right?
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> vbgunz,  of course. :P
[02:46] <rambo3> and americas army
[02:46] <vbgunz> Dr_Willis: I will check it out... Is it fun? Have you tried it?
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> Then theres "Cube" and the doom clones..
[02:46] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid it is a nice smooth distro with room for tweaks and stuff that most noob distros leave out
[02:46] <khalif> what's next?
[02:46] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, just depends on the situation for me.. i have been gone from linux so ubuntu helps me get back into the game
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> vbgunz,  its one of the most popular games out..:P well its old now.. but its still a blast
[02:46] <hosler_> !java
[02:46] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[02:46] <hosler_> !javadebs
[02:46] <ubotu> javadebs is, like, totally, Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[02:46] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid that's punny
[02:47] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid ok so is it installed?
[02:47] <vbgunz> Dr_Willis: is there a Gamers site for Linux... Showcasing games made for Linux or the such/
[02:47] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, anyways its installed
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> vbgunz,  i just installed the 2.55 version.. then relized it had a 2.60 version out and had to redownload it.. thts why   i had that link.
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> vbgunz,  several Linux Gamer sites. Google for "Linux game tome"
[02:47] <insipid> www.happypenguin.org
[02:47] <insipid> for games
[02:47] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid ok from your cli ;) type nvidia-settings
[02:47] <insipid> oh i know
[02:47] <insipid> im there
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> 'slune' is fun also.. and  the various emulators are a blast
[02:47] <insipid> sry
[02:48] <mycket> khalif, then we have to make sure that the old configurations are deleted, close synaptic, ant in the shell type "rm -rf .*" then reboot
[02:48] <SOMNIVM> LjL, is it normal that the scanner is only detected like an usb device without any driver being loaded when I plug it in the usb port?
[02:48] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid ok check the opengl section and disable the cpu instuction set
[02:48] <LjL> SOMNIVM: yes, i think so... wouldn't be too sure tho
[02:48] <vbgunz> Dr_Willis: Damn... I have to pay Fileplanet to get the game? Thats wild... I wish Steam would make a native Linux client
[02:48] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid restart x then go back to it and re-enable it
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> vbgunz,  not really :P just to use their premium servers.
[02:48] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid mine took that to get it going
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> vbgunz,  but that url was to my download.. im a paid user. :P
[02:49] <vbgunz> Dr_Willis: ahh
[02:49] <khalif> how do I reboot?
[02:49] <SOMNIVM> I mean dmesg returns:
[02:49] <SOMNIVM> [4295246.992000]  usb 2-1.1: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 7
[02:49] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, eh okay.. how about flipping and vblank
[02:49] <neil_dugan> I have the kubuntu LiveCD I was wondering how to get access to the HD.
[02:49] <khalif> from the terminal?
[02:49] <SOMNIVM> and no module is loaded
[02:49] <mycket> khalif, sudo reboot
[02:49] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid leave those as is for now
[02:49] <The_Isle_of_Mark> the flipping should be checked by default
[02:49] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, this seems silly but hey.. ive had to do stranger things i guess
[02:50] <jayr> hello
[02:50] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, brb
[02:50] <khalif> ok still in the white terminal....
[02:50] <jayr> I need help setting up python path for blender3d
[02:50] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid yep
[02:50] <gi2k15> can qparted resize ntfs partitions?
[02:50] <khalif> going down now!
[02:50] <The_Isle_of_Mark> GL
[02:50] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, forgot how to leave x
[02:50] <insipid> ctr alt backspace?
[02:51] <mycket> khalif, yep, from the terminal. and if that did not work - well, you have to ask someone else...
[02:51] <arentie> hello, when ubutnu is going through the boot process, the screen displays; however, when the login screen appears my monitor quits working
[02:51] <khalif> ok loading modules now.....
[02:52] <arentie> is their an article related to this issue?
[02:52] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, ok
[02:52] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid ok do this real quick
[02:52] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, i just re-enabled it
[02:52] <insipid> right?
[02:53] <The_Isle_of_Mark> before you enable it do a quick and dirty check with glxgears
[02:53] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid ah ok
[02:53] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid disable it again and lets do a quick glxgears check
[02:53] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid but dont exit X
[02:53] <mycket> khalif, don't forget to chosse GNOME when logging in again, or you'ss be in safe terminal again.
[02:54] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, okay glxgears is running
[02:54] <khalif> What is that clicking sound that comes on when the log-in window starts up?
[02:54] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid with the instructions disabled do a glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[02:54] <neil_dugan> I have the kubuntu LiveCD I was wondering how to get access to the HD.
[02:54] <jayr> is there way to run blender with python2.3
[02:54] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, omg i remember this.. LOL
[02:54] <jayr> I cant figure out how to change python 2.4 to 2.3
[02:54] <jayr> just temporarily
[02:54] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid it will give you your frame rate of glxgears...not a benchmark, but it is a way to check performance
[02:55] <mycket> Gmome makes a lot of noise :-) I dont think thats an error
[02:55] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, yeah okay looking at some fps's
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> what is the silly option to make glxgears spit out the fps anyway?
[02:55] <The_Isle_of_Mark> right now this machine gets 330 or so frams per sec
[02:55] <The_Isle_of_Mark> er 3300
[02:55] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, for glx gears these are pretty nasty 1129
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> glxgears --help and -help dont show nothing. :( and no man pages that i saw wither.
[02:55] <vbgunz> Dr_Willis: i am in queue for downloading RTCW:ET... 22 minutes... I notice it is a .RUN file... How will I use that when I get it?
[02:55] <The_Isle_of_Mark> Dr_Willis, see post above...it hurts to type it
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> vbgunz,  ./whatever.rin
[02:55] <khalif> A window popped up saying that GDM_failsafe is the default.
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark   - wow..
[02:56] <khalif> Should I make GNOME the default?
[02:56] <mycket> make GNOME the default
[02:56] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid yeah that is nasty
[02:56] <vbgunz> Dr_Willis: So just run it? No install or dpkg -i or anything... just run?
[02:56] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, something is terribly wrong
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> The_Isle_of_Mark,   makes ya wonder why the idiots dident bother to put a -help option in tht stated that.
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> vbgunz,  yea.. install it as a user.
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> vbgunz,  waiting 20 min - ick.
[02:56] <vbgunz> Dr_Willis: sweet :)
[02:57] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid yes it is...I have heard of some 32 bit libs needed to run things correctly on the nvidia cards
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> vbgunz,  i got it allready downloaded. :P ya can proberly find it from some other site as well..
[02:57] <vbgunz> Dr_Willis: I am in queue with FilePlanet... I used my gamespy account...
[02:57] <fenris> hi
[02:58] <khalif> Still nothing!
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> vbgunz,  Hmm.. oh yea.. im a founder club member. :P i got  special access I guess.
[02:58] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, man im really starting to wonder, wtf i installed 64 bit.. i thought it would be nice to learn 64 bit assembly.. but wow so aggrevating
[02:58] <khalif>  grrr!
[02:58] <vbgunz> Dr_Willis: I assume you play it? Can I put you in my buddy list for a game later?
[02:58] <fenris> is it possible that there is no tomcat package in ubuntu? or am i overlooking something...
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> vbgunz,  yea.. let me get gamespy fires up and see what myname is
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> vbgunz,   i am  Dr_Willis   on gamespy.. amazing eh! :P
[02:59] <vbgunz> I meant here, but that'll be cool too... I don't really use gamespy, just have an account... Does RTCW support VOIP so we can takl in game?
[02:59] <mycket> khalif, ok - then i don't know, too - sorry. But there are a lot of problems on a thinkpad 600.
[02:59] <justin__> I've been using ubuntu for a while now....within that last month or so, my "Applications" menu stopped working!  "Places" and "System" still work, but when I click on "Applications", it shows the menu for a very brief split-second, and then the menu is replaced with a tiny little grey box.  Anyone else having this problem?
[02:59] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark,  althought after my googling i have never hear anyone have problems
[02:59] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, with 64 b it opengl libs
[02:59] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid yeah...looking for that info I read at some time...I need to get an amd64 to learn things...the way of the future I hear :)
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> vbgunz,  not that i know of.
[02:59] <ChAdWiCk> trying to install mysql 4 i get the following error  http://cpp.enisoc.com/pastebin/6508
[02:59] <mycket> khalif, type "thinkpad 600 ubuntu" in google, maybe you find a hint
[03:00] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, future is looking grim
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> vbgunz,  trying to think of an easy way to send you that file..
[03:00] <mburoff> I have a quick hardware question for anyone.  I have an AMD64 X2 4800+ which is supposed to run at 2.6GHz... however.. the systeminformation says that it's running at 1005MHz... is this just a linux setting... or do i need to chnage my processor speed somewhere
[03:00] <khalif> ok! thanks for all your help mycket
[03:00] <vbgunz> Dr_Willis: I am in queue, about another 10 minutes, I'll start downloading it
[03:00] <mycket> khalif, OK. Good luck!
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> vbgunz,  its 260mb :P
[03:01] <vbgunz> Dr_Willis: no problem, about 30 minutes on my line maybe
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> in 10 min time i could have it downloaded like  2x lol.
[03:01] <insipid> there is lots of neat games in linux like planeshift
[03:02] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid I tried to give planeshift some server cpu time and bandwidth and they didnt want it
[03:02] <levander> liable: the HOWTO you pointed me to is just what i needed, almost.  You don't know of one for grub instead of lilo do you?
[03:02] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid damn that amd64
[03:03] <vbgunz> Dr_Willis: I hear that... I use to have a really good line but since I moved, I can no longer have services like Brighthouse, Verizon, etc :(
[03:04] <vbgunz> insipid: thanks for that happypenguin link!
[03:04] <justin__> so....everyone else has a working "Applications" menu?
[03:05] <cyphase> how do you prevent an account from being logged into via SSH?
[03:05] <ilcid> How do I resize a partition?
[03:05] <liable> levander: nah, sorry
[03:06] <gi2k15> ilcid on ubuntu?
[03:06] <ilcid> gi2k15 yes
[03:06] <djk_> ilcid: qtparted
[03:06] <gi2k15> qparted
[03:06] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid I dont think you'll need a recompile, but have you tried to get a more specific kernel if there is one?
[03:06] <grant_> mustard5. No luck :(
[03:06] <gi2k15> but can qparted resize ntfs?
[03:07] <ilcid> I want to resize a ext3 partition
[03:07] <ilcid> I think its ext3 at least
[03:07] <gi2k15> so qparted will help
[03:07] <djk_> gi2k15: qtparted can.. so i assume qparted should too
[03:07] <gi2k15> but that question was for everyone
[03:07] <gi2k15> hum...
[03:07] <mahangu> what's the difference between ls and dir?
[03:07] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, i really dont understand the packaging methods of ubuntu
[03:07] <gi2k15> much better doing that on linux than using partitionmagic
[03:08] <ilcid> Is qtparted on the live cd?
[03:08] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, but the one i got seemed like the right choice at first glance
[03:08] <gi2k15> probably yes
[03:08] <cyphase> How do you prevent an account from being logged into via SSH?
[03:08] <ardchoille> ilcid: do you have a copy of MEPIS?
[03:08] <gi2k15> mahangu: ls = dir on linux
[03:08] <gi2k15> i think :P
[03:08] <insipid> vbgunz, np.. its a really great site
[03:08] <ilcid> ardchoille: no
[03:08] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid yeah it seems so, but maybe you should check in synaptic for the kernel images
[03:08] <vbgunz> insipid: :)
[03:08] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, one sec
[03:09] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid go to synaptic and check out base system, base system restricted and base system universe and see if anything makes more sense
[03:09] <The_Isle_of_Mark> I dont have your repos setup since I am 32bit, but it shoudl be in there
[03:09] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, im thinking maybe the k8
[03:09] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid sounds good
[03:10] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, im asuming if its not xeon its k8
[03:10] <mahangu> gi2k15, there is a dir command in bash too
[03:10] <cyphase> How do you prevent an account from being logged into via SSH?
[03:10] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid, yeah sounds good
[03:11] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid make sure you get the headers
[03:11] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, now is this gonna deal with my boot manager for me
[03:11] <justin__> can i get a little help from someone?
[03:11] <djk_> mahangu: mmh the man pages seem to be identical
[03:11] <mahangu> djk_, yeah, wierd
[03:11] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid, yes, it'll add it to it and make it default for you
[03:11] <justin__> cyphase, sorry, i don't know...
[03:12] <gi2k15> mahangu dont they do the same thing?
[03:12] <ilcid> How do I resize partitions in gparted? I can't change anything in the resize box
[03:12] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, so i need to get the new kernel package and the restricted modules reboot then run the nv drivers in the new kernel?
[03:12] <neil_dugan> I have the kubuntu LiveCD I was wondering how to get access to the HD.
[03:12] <gi2k15> try man dir
[03:12] <gi2k15> and see if there's something different
[03:12] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid, that is what I would do
[03:12] <insipid> neil_dugan, mount it
[03:12] <djk_> gi2k15: i just said that the man pages seem to be identical ;)
[03:12] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid, I think the generic kernel is probably lame on the 3dnow stuff, you know?
[03:13] <gi2k15> so they may do de same thing :P
[03:13] <Dandel> how do i change the mapping of the sorround sound and mic?
[03:13] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, brb this seems like a long shot but hey lets check it out
[03:13] <mahangu> gi2k15, im writing an article, and wondering if to use ls or dir as an example
[03:13] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid long shot? nah man
[03:13] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid, I wish I had a 64bit now so I could check it out
[03:14] <gi2k15> ls is the default command on linux to list the contents of the directory
[03:14] <djk_> ilcid: you'll need the required programs for the filesystem you want to manipulate
[03:14] <gi2k15> use it instead of dir
[03:14] <niggpie> Hello!  I'm having difficulty extracting .rar archive files.  I installed P7Zip, however I can't find any documentation on the author's website or through google searches.  I cannot find a man page entry either, however when I do a whereis, I am told that it is here: p7zip: /usr/lib/p7zip
[03:14] <niggpie> .  Is anyone familiar with this console app?  Can someone give me a hand?
[03:14] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, its fun to fiddle around with.. but once you actualy need to use your system for something you get mad hehe
[03:14] <neil_dugan> insipid: On a lot of LiveCDs there is an app to do it automatically or at least generate the '/etc/fstab' file, is there nothing on ubuntu/kubuntu
[03:14] <mahangu> gi2k15, is there a RFC that says it's default? a spec?
[03:15] <mahangu> i dont see anything like it
[03:15] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid I think I would install the 32 bit kernel for those times until the 64 bit software arena stablizes
[03:15] <insipid> neil_dugan, not sure actually.. never tried sorry i gave you such a generic useless reply
[03:15] <mahangu> as djk_ said, both have identical man pages
[03:15] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, man i reboot this comp like 50 times a day with windows alone :)
[03:15] <gi2k15> mahangu I believe ls was created first. this MAY come since unix time
[03:15] <gi2k15> but i'm not sure
[03:16] <mahangu> mmm
[03:16] <djk_> niggpie: i don't kow p7zip, but for rar you can use unrar (nonfree) ..
[03:16] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid get rid of windows
[03:16] <neil_dugan> insipid: Is there a way to setup a persistant home directory I might put a mount script in?
[03:16] <mahangu> interesting to do some history
[03:16] <gi2k15> yes yes
[03:16] <mahangu> neil_dugan, why not use /etc/fstab?
[03:16] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, i can't some of my games wont run in linux and im very involved in them like freelancer
[03:16] <crouton> howdy folks
[03:16] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid ever used cedega?
[03:16] <gi2k15> but if it helps, every article I've read about linux always use ls instead of dir
[03:16] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, yep
[03:16] <neil_dugan> mahangu: because it will be reset when I next boot.
[03:16] <mahangu> insipid, use cedege, most games run it it i hear
[03:16] <mahangu> neil_dugan, why would it reset?
[03:16] <djk_> insipid: get a gf with a pc then :p
[03:16] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid worked great for me
[03:16] <niggpie> djk_: I'm familiar with IZArc, Winzip, and WinRAR when it comes to Windows, but for Linux I'm lost.  I was told P7Zip worked for .rar files from a command prompt.
[03:17] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, not mine.. freelancer is a microsoft game
[03:17] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid it has come a long way
[03:17] <mahangu> gi2k15, yeah i know, but isnt that habit?
[03:17] <neil_dugan> mahangu: its a LiveCD and nothing is perminent, unless it on a HD somewhere.
[03:17] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, i just checked the database freelancer not supported.. and gunz the duel isnt even listed
[03:17] <gi2k15> probably not. I think dir was implemented on bash shell for people that came from MS-DOS
[03:17] <djk_> niggpie: i have never used p7zip, but i know that unrar (nonfree) works
[03:17] <mahangu> neil_dugan, oh, live cd, my bad
[03:17] <mahangu> gi2k15, hmmm, yeah
[03:17] <SteveW> RAID experience? msg me pls!!!
[03:17] <pozdiy> iwconfig does not show any wlan entry, how to detect my miniPCI wifi card?
[03:17] <crouton> halo was boring, freelancer was much better
[03:17] <niggpie> djk_: alright, thx for the info :)
[03:17] <mahangu> i really should google that
[03:18] <djk_> niggpie: sure :)
[03:18] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid well I am not a hardcore gamer so I dont keep up...I use it for those games I really like and would hate to leave behind with windows
[03:18] <mahangu> SteveW, state your problem clearly for the whole channel to see
[03:18] <mahangu> The_Isle_of_Mark, like? :) but let's take that to offtopic, heh ;-)
[03:18] <neil_dugan> mahangu: most othere LiveCD automatically add the HD partitions to the /etc/fstab file kubuntu doesn't seem to do this.
[03:18] <gi2k15> mahangu probably dir on linux is an alias for ls, but I can't confirm that
[03:18] <mahangu> neil_dugan, i dont use live cds
[03:18] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, hehe i only have a 60 gb hd.. windows wastes about 18 gigs of it :(
[03:18] <mahangu> gi2k15, no, it has a seperate man entry
[03:18] <crouton> anybody knowledgeable about Unbuntu and Subversion?
[03:19] <mahangu> !svn
[03:19] <ubotu> it has been said that svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/
[03:19] <mahangu> crouton, go for it
[03:19] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid it'll run it from ntfs installations
[03:19] <gi2k15> yes, but if they are the same, so it can be an alias
[03:19] <mahangu> crouton, also apt-cache search subversion
[03:19] <gi2k15> or just two shell program that do the same thing
[03:19] <crouton> yeah yeah, but I've already done that. I have a specific question.
[03:19] <mahangu> crouton, ask
[03:19] <BotBuilder> whoah
[03:19] <mahangu> crouton, as a rule in here, just ask
[03:19] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, you mean mount the partician and run the game?
[03:19] <BotBuilder> we must be talking about what i did
[03:19] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid yes
[03:19] <BotBuilder> *just
[03:19] <SteveW> anyone know how to configure ubuntu fresh install onto a SATA RAID1 Promise Fastrak TX2 S150 Dell Poweredge with no IDE drive!
[03:20] <BotBuilder> installed svn ;p
[03:20] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, sounds nice until it tries to write a saved game
[03:20] <crouton> I need to compile the 'latest' version of libapache2-svn to match subversion-1.2.3.  The version in breezy repositories is 1.2.0.
[03:20] <BotBuilder> anyway, how should i make a server?
[03:20] <BotBuilder> (svn)
[03:20] <neil_dugan> insipid: Is there a way to setup a persistant home directory for the ubuntu/kunbuntu LiveCDs?
[03:20] <mahangu> crouton, why not just apt get the packages you need
[03:20] <BotBuilder> svnserve or mod_dav_svn
[03:20] <crouton> BotBuilder - did you do a source compile of subversion 1.2.3?
[03:20] <insipid> neil_dugan, never used the livecd's im not the right person
[03:20] <mahangu> brb
[03:20] <BotBuilder> crouton - no
[03:20] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid ntfs is stablizing on linux and besides you can tell it to save the data for games on your extfs partition
[03:20] <neil_dugan> insipid: Sorry didn't mean to direct the question just to you,
[03:21] <BotBuilder> sudo apt-get install subversion
[03:21] <crouton> BotBuilder - well I did, and I'm trying to avoid using the Subversion 1.2.0 packages in Breezy repositories
[03:21] <BotBuilder> oh
[03:21] <BotBuilder> different topics then
[03:21] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid it can just read the game executables from it if you want to
[03:21] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, brb we can continue discussion in a sec
[03:21] <jchurchill> mahangu, the standard that specifies 'ls' is POSIX
[03:21] <BotBuilder> I'm trying to figure out whether i should use svnserve or mod_dav_svn
[03:21] <BotBuilder> which is more common?
[03:22] <crouton> You can do both and decide based on your personal experience
[03:22] <mahangu> jchurchill, thank you! got a url for that?
[03:23] <crouton> I just need to find 'mod_dav_svn' that matches the latest subversion source..
[03:23] <gi2k15> mahangu try this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ls
[03:23] <mbmccormick> does ubuntu come with ndiswrapper installed?
[03:24] <The_Isle_of_Mark> mbmccormick, no, but it is an easy install
[03:24] <Dandel> i doubt it... what card are ya using?
[03:24] <Amaranth> no
[03:24] <jonathon> how do i make apt ignore dependencies?
[03:24] <mbmccormick> im using the linksys wusb11 version 4. its supported by the software...
[03:24] <kent> jonathon, you dont want it do ignore dependencies. Its a feature.. :)
[03:24] <Rev-Marc> what is the secret to viewing shred folders on other computers?
[03:24] <jonathon> i do want it to ignore its holding me back
[03:25] <Rev-Marc> shred = shared
[03:25] <funktown> Rev-Marc.. other windows computers? or linux?
[03:25] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, cool i guess it did the drivers automatically for me
[03:25] <neil_dugan> Is there a way to setup a persistant home directory for the ubuntu/kunbuntu LiveCDs?
[03:25] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid, wb, so how is glxgears now?
[03:25] <Rev-Marc> linux now but both eventually
[03:26] <jonathon> is there no way to ignore the dependencies?
[03:26] <kent> jonathon, what is holding you back?
[03:26] <insipid> gah -iaknowledgethatthisisnotabenchmark?
[03:26] <Rev-Marc> I have shared folders with Samba on both computers
[03:26] <kent> jonathon, if you really need to trick the system then read the manual for dpkg.  It can ignore deps as fare as I know..
[03:26] <jonathon> i want to install azurues and it wants to install jre1.4 and i have like 1.5.0
[03:26] <The_Isle_of_Mark> Rev-Marc, open your home folder and type smb://<ipaddress or name of machine> and there you go
[03:27] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[03:27] <jchurchill> mahangu, POSIX url is http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/toc.htm
[03:27] <eazel7> hi ppl
[03:27] <kent> jonathon, if you have azureus as a .deb package locally. Just read the manual for dpkg and it will work.  I think its something like "dpkg --force-ignore " or something..
[03:27] <jchurchill> mahangu, look at 'shells and utilities'
[03:27] <mbmccormick> has anyone setup web/dns hosting on their ubuntu box? is it easy to do?
[03:27] <eazel7> anyone lost GLX extension on dapper as me?
[03:27] <jonathon> when apt downloads its in deb form?
[03:27] <insipid> the_isle_of_mark im looking at a 10 fps increase on average
[03:27] <jonathon> kent: when apt downloads its in deb form?
[03:27] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid that is not so special is it?
[03:28] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, thats not much
[03:28] <Rev-Marc> I open the home folder and I can not see anywhere to type anything
[03:28] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, considering im 2000 below
[03:28] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid well man you have reached the limit of my knowledge
[03:28] <insipid> 6705 frames in 5.0 secs
[03:28] <djk_> jonathon: in which repo did you find azureus?
[03:28] <ricardo> ol
[03:29] <jonathon> breezy extras from the ubuntguide website
[03:29] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid If I had a 64 bit wokring we could do a diff on the files and find out wnat it might be, but I dont so we cant and that sucks
[03:29] <kent> jonathon, I think you can tell apt to only download it and not install it. Then you can manually run "dpkg -i --force-depends" (which i think it is, and not as above..).  If you cant tell apt to only download it, then browse the server which holds it from firerox/epiphany.. :)
[03:29] <djk_> !ubuntuguide
[03:29] <ubotu> methinks ubuntuguide is an unofficial guide written by community members. It is not guaranteed to be up to date, or to work. There is an official guide, at http://help.ubuntu.com which is preferred.
[03:29] <Milenko> I reeeally hate windows
[03:29] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, i can pop in a 32 bit kernel but i sense compatibility issues
[03:29] <Milenko> lol
[03:29] <jonathon> well i think i got enough info to go forth and konquer ;P
[03:29] <djk_> kent: there's a force-yes option for apt...
[03:29] <djk_> !javadeb
[03:29] <ubotu> I heard javadeb is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[03:30] <jonathon> whats force-yes do?
[03:30] <pantz> anyone have any idea why when i mount my SD camera card now - it names all photos in capital letters - this is new behaviour on Breezy
[03:30] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, i know your not the person to be asking.. but could i run both a 32 bit and a 64 kernel in the same environment?
[03:30] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid the amd64 is supposed to run 32bit natively just fine
[03:30] <Rev-Marc> what is the secret to viewing shared folders on other computers?
[03:30] <jonathon> i dont need java its already installed but it wants to apt-get a lower version so i want to ignore it
[03:31] <Rev-Marc> I have shared folders with Samba on both computers
[03:31] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid, no
[03:31] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, im woried about conflicts
[03:31] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid, yeah
[03:31] <djk_> jonathon: apt will continue without prompting...
[03:31] <funktown> Rev-Marc.. go to your "Network" tab in Nautilus.. thats all I had to do =)
[03:31] <mbmccormick> in windows, i can "allow other computers to share this computer's internet connection". can i do this in ubuntu?
[03:31] <jonathon> I did it in synaptic
[03:31] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid everyone I know with amd64 is running the 32 bit version of their preffered os..windows xp 32bit and linux 32bit
[03:31] <Milenko> like i said
[03:31] <Milenko> i REEEALLY hate windows
[03:31] <djk_> jonathon: either way, get the deb from the link ubotu sent you.. and the javadeb was for me..:p
[03:32] <Rev-Marc> where do i find nautilus?
[03:32] <Milenko> rebooted yesterday and BAM bluescreen
[03:32] <Mulder> mbmccormick, of course
[03:32] <Milenko> havent seen one of them in years..
[03:32] <fridge> Is it fairly straightforward to go from ubuntu to kubuntu?
[03:32] <jonathon> ;P hey can u send me something from the bot on manpages?
[03:32] <Milenko> i feel.. betrayed
[03:32] <Milenko> lol
[03:32] <mbmccormick> cool, thanks
[03:32] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, why get the processor then?  just better made?
[03:32] <funktown> Rev-Mark.. Nautilus is your file-browser (in Gnome)
[03:32] <Rev-Marc> I am running the 64bit Ubuntu on my AMD 64 laptop
[03:33] <mahangu> jchurchill, thanks mate, gotta run, bookmarked it!
[03:33] <insipid> Rev-Marc, im having problems with nvidia
[03:33] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid because if you are going to buy hardware, why buy something that is not futureproof in any way...they are not going to be developing 32 bit procs anymore
[03:33] <djk_> jonathon: there's not much to know about manpages... just type man foo  where foo is the name of the prog
[03:33] <jonathon> rev-marc are u having trouble file sharing
[03:33] <Rev-Marc> yes I am having trouble with file sharing
[03:34] <jonathon> do u care whether its secure or not?
[03:34] <mbmccormick> for those who used shipit to get the ubuntu distro, how long did it take for united states delivery?
[03:34] <djk_> perhaps 4-6 weeks? ;)
[03:34] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, actually my amd64 low-end 3000+ benchmarked better than a 3.0 ghz intel on a 32 bit os... and mine is only 2.0 ghz
[03:34] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid besides microsuck has funky software for 64bit...talk about crashes
[03:35] <Rev-Marc> no
[03:35] <jonathon> security = share makes ur folder share similar to the way windows xp home does
[03:35] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, i was actually able to run ut2004 with a nvidia geforce mx400 and that is amazing
[03:35] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid maybe a reinstall of the 32 bit ubuntu would be prudent at this time?
[03:35] <insipid> geforce 2
[03:36] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, i dont have the 32 bit version
[03:36] <insipid> ill have to download it
[03:36] <PokerFacePenguin> insipid: UT rocks
[03:36] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid dl it
[03:36] <Rev-Marc> insipid I my laptop has a mobitlty radion 9600
[03:36] <jonathon> rev-marc: best place to start is /etc/samba/smb.conf id back it up first tho
[03:36] <Rev-Marc> OK
[03:36] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, okay will it clean up all this garbage on my bootloader
[03:36] <Rev-Marc> will try now
[03:37] <funktown> if I install xmodmap.. will i have to configure .xmodmaprc myself?
[03:37] <The_Isle_of_Mark> Insipid no, but you can clean that up
[03:37] <PokerFacePenguin> insipid: how is the performance on UT on wine?
[03:37] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, your right i wont really care about 53 bit assembly for another year anyways
[03:37] <insipid> PokerFacePenguin, ut classic?
[03:37] <PokerFacePenguin> 2003
[03:38] <insipid> PokerFacePenguin, never did 2003
[03:38] <insipid> PokerFacePenguin, i did ut2004 native linux install on a geforce 2 mx 400 in debian sid once
[03:38] <The_Isle_of_Mark> PokerFacePenguin, I did and it runs fine, I never did any benchmarks, but I never had any problems either...I use cedega
[03:38] <PokerFacePenguin> insipid: havent felt like installing it under wine yet...but I solved that bugger under windows....lol
[03:38] <insipid> ran like a beuty
[03:39] <insipid> ah
[03:39] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, whats the name of the burner... k3b right?
[03:39] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid all this talk of fps games makes me want to crank up quake 4
[03:39] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid gnomebaker is the one to use with gnome
[03:39] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, how long you gonna be around
[03:39] <ShaddAFK> Hey, I've got a problem...I installed ubuntu on a dell inspiron with a broken LCD. I've had it hooked up to an old packard bell monitor but no matter what I do, once X starts the monitor loses all signal.
[03:40] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, im bored im gonna reformat
[03:40] <arentie> I'm having display problems
[03:40] <Mulder> has q4 been ported to linux?
[03:40] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid that sounds like me...I should be here a while
[03:40] <Shadda> Even after toggling to CRT on the laptop keyboard, I get no signal
[03:40] <Shadda> has anyone experienced this?
[03:40] <arentie> ShaddAFK, I have the same problem...
[03:40] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, i did this one time and whiped a research paper
[03:40] <insipid> whoops :)
[03:40] <arentie> Once X starts I lose the monitor
[03:40] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid you are gonna reformat the entire drive?
[03:41] <insipid> no
[03:41] <Mulder> Shadda, kill X and edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to reflect the crt monitor
[03:41] <insipid> but im whiping out this partition
[03:41] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid well dont go losing anything
[03:41] <insipid> linux is my primary operating system
[03:41] <insipid> i wont
[03:41] <insipid> you learn your lesson after a while
[03:41] <arentie> Mulder, how do I kill X?
[03:41] <PokerFacePenguin> tar is your friend
[03:41] <Shadda> Mulder: will do, thanks
[03:41] <The_Isle_of_Mark> ok...gotta go check on the baby, I'll be back around in a few...lemme know when you get it running again
[03:41] <PokerFacePenguin> :)
[03:41] <Mulder> arentie, ctrl alt backspace
[03:42] <arentie> ok thanks
[03:42] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, im curious why does 1280x1024 in gnome feel like friggin 800X600
[03:42] <insipid> lol
[03:42] <Stormx2> insipid: I agree!
[03:42] <Shadda> arentie: if its a default install, ubuntu will autologin and restart x though heh
[03:42] <insipid> Stormx2,  :)
[03:42] <crouton> anyone know where libapache2-dev documentation goes?
[03:42] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid they want it easy and friendlly
[03:42] <skulrid__> hi
[03:42] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, i ment everything seems so large
[03:42] <Stormx2> Yep
[03:42] <Stormx2> It does
[03:42] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid I guess :p ok baby crying now...it'll be a few minutes
[03:43] <insipid> okay
[03:43] <Stormx2> there was a nice mock up of gnome on gnome-look.org
[03:43] <skulrid__> ppl I have mplayer plug-in on firefox, but when I try to see any video on a site, there is no audio, any help plz??
[03:43] <Stormx2> of how it should look ;-)
[03:43] <funktown> skulrid__ make sure you dont have any audio running before you attempt to view media through firefox
[03:44] <PokerFacePenguin> crouton: /usr/doc maybe?
[03:44] <skulrid__> no i turned averything off
[03:44] <crouton> PokerFacePenguin: nay
[03:46] <skulrid__> funktown no sound... :S
[03:47] <arentie> Mulder, I select ctrl+alt+Backspace, but monitor doesn't respond
[03:47] <Mulder> arentie, weird
[03:47] <Mulder> arentie, how about try dumping yourself in  a cli then. ctrl alt f1
[03:47] <Mulder> use the ctrl and alt keys on the left side of the keyboard
[03:48] <arentie> I did you the left side
[03:48] <skulrid__> funktown now its working... lol =)
[03:48] <arentie> Mulder, I did use the left side
[03:48] <Mulder> does that put you at a login prompt?
[03:48] <arentie> no
[03:48] <nathan__> i'm having an issue with hibernation
[03:48] <arentie> shall I try ctrl alt f1
[03:48] <Mulder> yes
[03:48] <Mulder> do that
[03:48] <arentie> ok
[03:48] <ggg> please, help: I need to set up environment Variables, I did it in /etc/profile and works great when logging in from console, but won work when using X.. any idea?
[03:49] <Shadda> Mulder: any way to detect monitor info? This monitor is about 10 years old heh, god only knows what H/VSyncs it has
[03:49] <nathan__> i recently installed the 3d accelerator drivers for ATI and now when i put my computer into hibernation it doesn't return back up when i switch it on again
[03:49] <Mulder> Shadda, lol um... no idea.  you can try X --configure BUT that might just pickup your broken lcd... worth a shot though
[03:50] <The_Isle_of_Mark> arentie, are you trying to restart the x server?
[03:50] <pantz> anyone know where the mount options are defined for the 'auto-mounting' of usbkeys?
[03:50] <PokerFacePenguin> crouton: hmm...maybe ls -R | grep apache | grep doc   would work from the /
[03:50] <djk_> pantz: ivman does the automounting.
[03:51] <djk_> !ivman
[03:51] <ubotu> it has been said that ivman is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IvmanConfigAction.xml
[03:51] <Mulder> ggg, http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-freebsd/2004-February/msg00000.html
[03:51] <ggg> thanks
[03:52] <Mulder> errr ooops
[03:52] <Mulder> wrong one
[03:52] <crouton> PokerFacePenguin: doesn't really matter much
[03:52] <Mulder> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2005-August/msg00139.html
[03:52] <arentie> Mulder, ctrl alt f1 worked
[03:52] <The_Isle_of_Mark> !codecs
[03:52] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[03:53] <arentie> Mulder, do I modify /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[03:53] <Mulder> ggg, actually scrap that last link again. http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2005/08/msg01245.html directly answers your quesiton in an easier way
[03:53] <Mulder> arentie, i suspect so.
[03:53] <ggg> ok, thanks a lot..
[03:54] <arentie> I believe the problem is with the refresh rate
[03:55] <arentie> what is the command that would reveal the refresh rate?
[03:55] <Mulder> i dont think there is one
[03:55] <Mulder> i can suggest you do X --configure
[03:55] <Mulder> but again if your monitor is broken that might have issues
[03:55] <Mulder> --configure is Xorg's autodetection
[03:56] <TnT|away> ive just installed ubuntu 5.04 how do i make it auto logon?
[03:56] <The_Isle_of_Mark> does anyone know when the ubuntu lpi test is going to be available?
[03:56] <Mulder> auto logons are a bad idea
[03:57] <crouton> not if you're running a mythbox
[03:57] <TnT|away> still i want it to auto logon
[03:57] <djk_> Mulder: that depends on the situation...
[03:57] <Shadda> Mulder: --configure is an invalid option
[03:57] <kbrooks> brb
[03:57] <TnT|away> its actually my ubuntu server
[03:57] <Mulder> Shadda, config?
[03:57] <kbrooks> killing X
[03:57] <pantz> djk_, what is ivman - i find no trace of it on my system
[03:57] <TnT|away> so i want it auto logon
[03:57] <Mulder> i forgot the flag, but it was something like configure
[03:57] <kbrooks> screen is kind of ...
[03:57] <kbrooks> "dithered"
[03:57] <Shadda> -configure
[03:58] <Shadda> however
[03:58] <djk_> pantz: go to the link ubotu posted...
[03:58] <Shadda> When I run it, I get "Missing output drivers. Configuration failed"
[03:58] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, long download :)... im really liking how ubuntu has the bounty system
[03:58] <wastrel> is there a way to unsuckify the gnome file dialogs?
[03:58] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid they are doing a lot of things right
[03:58] <djk_> wastrel: by using kde ;)
[03:59] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid I think they put a lot of thought into the distro before coming out with it
[03:59] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, they are making a desktop distrobution for end-users without sacrificing the the morals of open sources and free software
[03:59] <TnT|away> ive just installed ubuntu 5.04 how do i make it auto logon?
[03:59] <wastrel> someone should make a drop-in library replacement that de-gimps the damn things
[03:59] <pantz> djk_, i did but i checked for  /etc/ivman/ and it doesn't exist - so what i am wondering is what is 'auto-mounting' my usb right now?
[03:59] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid yeah and not dumbing it down to the point of being limited
[03:59] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid I tried xandros once and it was terrible what they did to deb
[04:00] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, yeah its alot easier to get "restricted" packages.. just not required
[04:00] <Mulder> TnT|away, /etc/gdm/gdm.conf looka t flags concerning autologin
[04:00] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, keeping is free and keepin it real at the same time :)
[04:00] <Mulder> TnT|away, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-12777.html
[04:01] <TnT|away> thanks'
[04:01] <djk_> pantz: i guess ubuntu does it differently then..
[04:02] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid, yeah man, I own a server farm and I am thinking about using ubuntu for my images on new or replacement machine
[04:02] <The_Isle_of_Mark> s
[04:02] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, i personally would run a *bsd on a server, but thats just me
[04:03] <yatesy> sound choice
[04:03] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, we have already determined by me trying to get these drivers installed im a unix neophyte
[04:03] <pantz> djk_, you running kubuntu then i gather?
[04:03] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid unfortunately that is not an option, I have customers that want functionality that bsds dont have...I rent dedicated servers and such
[04:03] <yatesy> like what?
[04:03] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, ahhh i would likely use pure debian then... but then again what do i know
[04:04] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid I am by no means a unix noob...just on some things...like multimedia drivers lol
[04:04] <djk_> pantz: yes
[04:04] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, i was referring to me
[04:04] <kbrooks> i need some MAJOR help
[04:04] <joanra> Hello
[04:04] <kbrooks> i left the screen on for 3 hours
[04:05] <kbrooks> and somehow it changed
[04:05] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, thankfully i pick up on this stuff rather quickly.. last time i was running debian i got really proficient.. but im also quick to forget
[04:05] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid, deb is nice, but I want to support a commercial linux...one that I agree with. I love deb, I have a few dozen mission critical servers running it, but debian will never be a desktop os...
[04:05] <Mulder> yeah definitely, just use vanilla debian
[04:05] <kbrooks> into a .... "ghost" image
[04:05] <Mulder> and install only what you need
[04:05] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, ohh your looking for a market
[04:05] <He|m> anyone know how to calculate a sum of 1 column of numbers from a file?
[04:05] <kbrooks> any way to fix this?
[04:05] <Mulder> not have X and all that garbage which is unnecessary in a server environment
[04:05] <yatesy> debian is a desktop OS, ubuntu is built upon it silly :P
[04:05] <kbrooks> i dont use screen savers
[04:05] <hydroksyde> kbrooks: What do you mean ghost? Have you burnt in yout monitor?
[04:05] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, yeah so far i totally support ubuntu
[04:05] <kbrooks> hydroksyde, no
[04:05] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid I am looking for linux to make inroads into the desktop market
[04:05] <kbrooks> hydroksyde, never
[04:06] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, i think i just heard someone say "debian is a desktop OS"
[04:06] <kbrooks> hydroksyde, i just left the screen on, it "blanked out"
[04:06] <insipid> what kind of statement was that
[04:06] <joanra> Anybody works with Bluefish?
[04:06] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid, I am tired of broken OSs at the desktop, servers that require 2 people to care for and the like
[04:06] <kbrooks> and when i unblanked it
[04:06] <safrican> Hi
[04:06] <kbrooks> it changed (the monitor screen overlaying the stuff)
[04:06] <Madpilot> joanra: I use it sometimes, yeah
[04:06] <joanra> Anybody know if there is a Bluefish sourced compiled i686?
[04:06] <safrican> how do i get rid of the HPIJS without apt removing my ubuntu-desktop, etc. ?
[04:06] <insipid> debian is a gnu based os with a linux kernel... its not a "desktop os"
[04:07] <kbrooks> so what's wrong?
[04:07] <natsmith9> does anyone know about a correlation between the fglrx drivers and hibernation?
[04:07] <kbrooks> hydroksyde, ^^^
[04:07] <joe_alf> !wxpython
[04:07] <djk_> safrican: ubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package..
[04:07] <ubotu> joe_alf: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[04:07] <hydroksyde> kbrooks: I'm not sure what you mean... do you have a different monitor around that you could try?
[04:07] <Madpilot> joanra: don't think so, I think there's only one version of Bluefish in the repos
[04:07] <kbrooks> hydroksyde, no
[04:07] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, i agree.. i totally support their commercial approach as well
[04:07] <kbrooks> i can do a ss
[04:07] <safrican> djk_: yeah even then, i would like to keep it.. and have it removed...
[04:07] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid, heheh yeah debian is a desktop os for people proficient in linux, but joe and jane average need something like ubuntu...and besides pointing and clicking isnt as evil as some say :)
[04:07] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, as long as it doesnt turn into greed
[04:07] <safrican> but thanks
[04:07] <joanra> Thanks Madpilot. Do you works ok with Bluefish?
[04:08] <hydroksyde> kbrooks: Try pressing ctrl+alt+f1 and see if it's still there (ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to X)
[04:08] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, i went straight from windows to debian i disagree.. i was 15 years old and knew nothng about computers and picked up just fine
[04:08] <Madpilot> joanra: it's not a bad program; try Screem too - I use both for HTML work
[04:08] <yatesy> insipid: whats your point here? ubuntu wouldn't EXIST if it wasn't for debian
[04:08] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid right, but look at Mr Shuttleworth's philanthropic endeavors..I think he truly cares about the community
[04:08] <kbrooks> hydroksyde, im not a ubuntu noob
[04:08] <hydroksyde> ok
[04:08] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid you arent a "normal"
[04:08] <hydroksyde> sorry
[04:08] <kbrooks> i rebooted and it shows up in the console
[04:08] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, i am a normal person, that read the docs
[04:08] <kbrooks> and in the gui
[04:09] <hydroksyde> I'm just not totally sure what you mean by "the monitor screen overlaying the stuff"
[04:09] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid by that satement alone you are not normal
[04:09] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, LOL!
[04:09] <yatesy> heh so true
[04:09] <kbrooks> hydroksyde, the monitor overlaying the stuff is messed up
[04:09] <joanra> Anybody know what is more performance partition EXT3 or xfs?
[04:09] <kbrooks> its not smooth
[04:09] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, i guess your right i have a drive to understand
[04:10] <Mulder> nathan_, there are hibernation issues with laptops. http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=hibernation&go=Go has specific articles for thinkpads
[04:10] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, thats why its hard for unix programmers to cater to the needs of the end-user i think
[04:10] <hydroksyde> kbrooks: Tried deguassing?
[04:10] <kbrooks> hydroksyde, i did
[04:10] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid joe average wants to click on a big button that says internet...and another that says email...and another that says my digital camera etc
[04:10] <yatesy> generally they don't, they expect people to go find out for themselves by reading available documentation
[04:10] <hydroksyde> kbrooks, so evidently it's a monitor problem?
[04:10] <yatesy> not spoon feed it to you
[04:10] <kbrooks> hydroksyde, i am not sure
[04:10] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark i was more interested in the command line :) so yeah i gues your right im wierd
[04:11] <yatesy> hey thats what running a servers all about ;)
[04:11] <kbrooks> hydroksyde, could you help me determine if its the monitor or not
[04:11] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid, I use command line all week...weekends are for guis man...beer and guis
[04:11] <hydroksyde> kbrooks, does it show up before linux starts?
[04:11] <hydroksyde> kbrooks, POST screen?
[04:11] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, i feel weak when using a GUI.. its like watching a informative film on tv vs reading the manual
[04:11] <kbrooks> hydroksyde, in the grub boot menu, no i dont see a post screen, it gets skipped
[04:12] <hydroksyde> ok
[04:12] <insipid> bad example but thats what its like for me
[04:12] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid I dont want to remember the exact syntax of every configuation file out there...sometimes a simple click is nice
[04:12] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, this is true
[04:12] <hydroksyde> kbrooks: CRT?
[04:13] <kbrooks> hydroksyde, how do i determine? i dont have the manual around
[04:13] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid, how is the DL going?
[04:13] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, GUI's working side by side with command line interfaces.. way to go
[04:13] <coz> hello all
[04:13] <hydroksyde> hydroksyde: Cathode Ray tube monitors are heavier, traditional monitors
[04:13] <hydroksyde> aargh
[04:13] <coz>  anyone here use wcom tablets
[04:13] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, 259 megs completed out of 632
[04:13] <coz> wacom tablets
[04:13] <kbrooks> hydroksyde, i don't lift
[04:13] <hydroksyde> kbrooks, Cathode Ray tube monitors are heavier, traditional monitors
[04:13] <kbrooks> ....
[04:14] <kbrooks> i cant lift heavy things
[04:14] <kbrooks> well
[04:14] <kbrooks> whats a LCD monitor
[04:14] <Chizn> what is a good webpage design app for ubuntu?
[04:14] <The_Isle_of_Mark> chizn Nvu
[04:14] <Nikusan> Chizn check out Nvu
[04:14] <coz> anyone use wacom tablets?
[04:14] <joanra> I think that in amule based in fat32 partition slow the performance. What do you think about it?
[04:15] <hydroksyde> an LCD monitor is not a CRT monitor
[04:15] <hydroksyde> http://games.tiscali.cz/hardware/tema/lcdvscrtmonitor/viewsonic-crt.jpg - that's a CRT
[04:15] <Nikusan> hi all, can anyone help me with a gaim/msn not connecting problem?
[04:15] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, i think i need a guide to net searching or something.. sometimes ill spend days looking for some kind of information such as my nvidia problem.. and ill go into an irc channel and get chewed out followed by a link to a popular howto ive never seen
[04:15] <Madpilot> Chizn: try Bluefish or Screem as well
[04:15] <snorks> Nikusan: use http method
[04:15] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid, get used to that
[04:15] <Chizn> bluefish! thats it..
[04:15] <Nikusan> snorks: yep I just found that, ticked it, and it still wont work :(
[04:15] <Chizn> i knew it had blue in it, lol
[04:15] <Madpilot> insipid: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[04:16] <snorks> Nikusan: cannot help you then :/
[04:16] <Chizn> thanks
[04:16] <logical_mark> Hey guys what program should I use in Firefox to play this video that WONT play! I am using MPlayer now
[04:16] <logical_mark> http://media.putfile.com/WizardsofWinter-SM
[04:16] <kbrooks> hydroksyde, i have a CRT then
[04:16] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid, that is why I maintain a channel connection to a lot of irc channels...people see you in there they understand a little better that you are not some noob with a hand out looking for answers
[04:16] <insipid> i guess ill stick around here then
[04:16] <joanra> Anybody have a KM400 vga chip? I can not active dri!
[04:16] <hydroksyde> kbrooks, It sounds kinda like the shadowmask is warped. Do you see odd colours?
[04:16] <insipid> i tried that with the debian channel worked out sorta ok
[04:17] <insipid> except mwilson used kill me
[04:17] <kbrooks> hydroksyde, black and a shade of gray
[04:17] <kbrooks> a "light" shade
[04:17] <j> anyone out here
[04:17] <The_Isle_of_Mark> j no
[04:17] <kbrooks> hydroksyde, alongside each other vertically
[04:17] <Toothpick> Compaq Presario M2000 wireless... ?
[04:18] <j> sorry this is the first time I actully ever ran linux or anything dont mind me
[04:18] <kbrooks> j: ask
[04:18] <kbrooks> j: any questions? ask!
[04:18] <Toothpick> lspci shows broadocm corporation bcm4318 AirforceOne 54g 802.11g [rev 2]  or something very close...what program should I run to try to configure it?
[04:18] <logical_mark> Hey would someone help me with this video not playing in Firefox? http://media.putfile.com/WizardsofWinter-SM
[04:18] <hydroksyde> kbrooks, I think your problem is most likely your monitor. It may possibly be your video card, but I doubt it. That's the best i can come up with given the information I have
[04:19] <kbrooks> hydroksyde, and when i open up the terminal
[04:19] <cliebow> Toothpick: wont etwork-admin show it?
[04:19] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid so what do you think of redhat and novell
[04:19] <The_Isle_of_Mark> ?
[04:19] <jayr> is there a way to change the pytho path in ubuntu?
[04:19] <joanra> Anybody have a KM400 vga chip?
[04:19] <jsubl2> logical_mark: played for me... sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[04:20] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, i don't know what to think really.. but i dont like what i see
[04:20] <kbrooks> a "copy" o the windiw Iis blitted onto the monitor
[04:20] <kbrooks> but not permantently
[04:20] <kbrooks> its not a ghost image
[04:20] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, i dont like complicated software ideologies
[04:20] <coz> OK does anyone use wacom tablets here?
[04:21] <jayr> err.. is there a way to change the python path in ubuntu?
[04:21] <PokerFacePenguin> <---- uses crayons mostly :P
[04:21] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid well, I am pretty sure they are the only way to make money in free software, but I think getting users on linux in any way would be a great thing...btw redhat blows
[04:21] <kbrooks> hydroksyde, should I replace the monitor?
[04:21] <PokerFacePenguin> coz: no experience with them
[04:21] <Ep|phany> i have totem-xine and w32 codecs but i cant seem to watch streaming wmvs with firefox does anyone have any ideas?
[04:22] <pepsi> is udev 076-0ubuntu5 _supposed_ to replace hotplug? im hesitant to let it remove hotplug
[04:22] <hydroksyde> kbrooks: I'd say so. You might want to take your machine into a computer shop when you buy the monitor, and see that it's the problem
[04:22] <wickedpuppy> jayr, why you want to change python path ?
[04:22] <kbrooks> hydroksyde, no
[04:22] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, the users decide where money is made.. advertisement is key
[04:22] <coz> Ok thanks all
[04:22] <kbrooks> i have a idea
[04:22] <kbrooks> hydroksyde, well, i'm 14
[04:22] <kbrooks> i dont have money
[04:22] <hydroksyde> kbrooks: So you can't get a new monitor?
[04:23] <jayr> wickedpuppy, I need to change the path so I can run scripts from blender3d
[04:23] <kbrooks> but i  dont want to live with this stupid as fuck problem
[04:23] <Ep|phany> anyone got any suggestions for me?
[04:23] <logical_mark> jsubl2: It wont play. What should i Have set for the videeo output in Configure
[04:23] <wickedpuppy> jayr, can't change the path in blender3d ?
[04:23] <kbrooks> jayr, export PYTHONPATH="/path/to/x:/path/to/y"
[04:23] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, software licensing is so complicated im not gonna even pretend i know what im talking about :)
[04:23] <Killer_Smurf> Ep|phany  ... don't eat yellow snow
[04:23] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid yeah, ubuntu is doing a lot of good things, and I hope..I hope that once they get the user experience polished up they start hard core ads..I mean really get it in the average guys head that it is better
[04:23] <kbrooks> wickedpuppy, PYTHONPATH != PATH
[04:23] <jsubl2> logical_mark: get the codecs from player site and put them in /usr/lib/win32
[04:24] <Killer_Smurf> jj
[04:24] <hydroksyde> kbrooks, if your monitor is dodgy, I don't suggest trying to repair it... Unless theres something in the user controls to correct it
[04:24] <jayr> wickedpuppy, I tried that
[04:24] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid you would not believe the amount of reps I get trying to sell me software
[04:24] <wickedpuppy> kbrooks, ah k ... so its like JAVA_HOME ?
[04:24] <kbrooks> hydroksyde, i dont want to live with this problem!!!!!
[04:24] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid they come in hey, would you like a good backup software, I say sure, is it better than dd? they say yeah...but it isnt
[04:25] <kbrooks> hydroksyde, it looks like the user controls are not messed up
[04:25] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, LOL
[04:25] <hydroksyde> kbrooks: I wouldn't either. But to me it sounds like your monitor is the problem, and if your monitor is busted then it's busted
[04:25] <kbrooks> hydroksyde, well yeah :(
[04:25] <hydroksyde> kbrooks, I suggest you see if you can find another monitor and test
[04:26] <tonyyarusso> Can I still use SWAT if I've already changed something so http://systemname:901 returns an error?
[04:26] <kbrooks> hydroksyde, the only other monitor is owned by someone else here
[04:26] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, i hate it when people say software is better... you can't make that statement with out declaring its purpose and its features and its system load ect..
[04:26] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid I mean really, how good can backups get? I have a dlt jukebox running and cron jobs to back up my servers. fancy, no..very solid and trustworthy? yes
[04:26] <hydroksyde> kbrooks, ask if you could borrow it for a few minutes perhaps, to find out if you need a new one?
[04:26] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, excatly
[04:27] <insipid> you dont want fancy anyways
[04:27] <insipid> not for that
[04:27] <kbrooks> hydroksyde, not right now, esp at 2230
[04:27] <Aven> what's a good pop3 server for ubuntu?
[04:27] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, 61 percent done la de da
[04:27] <pantz> i just read the 'rename' man page and it says to run rename y/A-Z/a-z/ * to rename files from capital letters to small letters - but i get an error - could someone test this command out?
[04:27] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid microsoft has the world believing that if you didnt pay 30k for licensing it isnt good or trustworthy
[04:28] <kbrooks> hydroksyde, but i'l  try that tomorrow
[04:28] <wickedpuppy> jayr, is your problem solved ?
[04:28] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, whats even more interesting is people wont admit they believe that
[04:28] <hydroksyde> kbrooks, good idea
[04:28] <pantz> this is the error i get - Unrecognized character \xE2 at (eval 1) line 1.
[04:28] <pantz> any ideas?
[04:29] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid right. that is why I want to get ubuntu to really stand out...get it approved for support from people like oracle and ibm and such. Big names running ubuntu and the market share picks up
[04:29] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, well i guess if you pay 30k for something a corporate judge will be in your favor when something goes wrong
[04:29] <jayr> no
[04:29] <jayr> wickedpuppy
[04:29] <jayr> wickedpuppy, no
[04:30] <insipid> rediculous though
[04:30] <jayr> I tried setting python path through blender
[04:30] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid heheh ever been involved in court where technology is concerned?
[04:30] <insipid> oh gawd
[04:30] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid I have, and it is a joke. Judges are nromals
[04:30] <kbrooks> jayr, run that in the shell
[04:30] <jayr> then I set pthon path through .bashrc
[04:30] <insipid> Your honor if this apple was my decoder.... and this orange was my codec
[04:30] <insipid> wha??
[04:30] <kbrooks> jayr, . ~/.bashrc
[04:31] <kbrooks> and rerun blender
[04:31] <Aven> someone please name me a pop3 mailing server
[04:31] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid right, and they STILL dont get it. I lost a patent that way
[04:31] <insipid> LOL!
[04:31] <Roostercogburn> Hey I need help setting up my gmail with revolution
[04:31] <kbrooks> Aven, too many
[04:31] <Aven> name one common used one
[04:31] <Roostercogburn> Can anyone help?
[04:31] <SteveW> ubotu tell stevew about raid
[04:31] <SteveW> !raid
[04:31] <ubotu> [raid]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto
[04:31] <The_Isle_of_Mark> Aven qmail
[04:31] <Aven> ubotu tell aven about linux
[04:32] <Aven> :P
[04:32] <jayr> when I echo the pythonpath it says that hey I am running python 2.3
[04:32] <jayr> I run blender and it says using python2.4
[04:32] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, well do you think hackers will go underground if something happened to OSI and the government
[04:32] <ChAdWiCk> can someone tell me where the default install dir is for apache2? atm it looks like this http://202.6.145.139/
[04:32] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, like the episode in europe
[04:33] <PokerFacePenguin> insipid: lol, the hackers are already underground
[04:33] <insipid> PokerFacePenguin, huh?
[04:33] <vilefridge> Hello :)  I'm wondering where the equivalent of 'program files' is in Ubuntu.  I downloaded a Linux app that looks pre-compiled and I'm wondering where I should put it?  Right now it's just kicking about the desktop.  Thanks!
[04:33] <sorsis> inspid: what OSI?
[04:34] <PokerFacePenguin> insipid: any self respecting hacker is an island unto himself usually....pardon the play on the name
[04:34] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid I think there will always be adversaries for "hackers" just different names for them.
[04:34] <Madpilot> vilefridge: which app? it wasn't in the repos?
[04:34] <hydroksyde> vilefridge, /usr
[04:34] <insipid> PokerFacePenguin, ohhh yeah
[04:34] <vilefridge> Madpilot: no it wasn't unfortunately.  Rar 3.51
[04:34] <dwhsix> ChAdWiCk: /var/www I believe
[04:34] <The_Isle_of_Mark> PokerFacePenguin, islands heh
[04:34] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, LOL!
[04:34] <vilefridge> hydroksyde: just /usr/rar  ?
[04:34] <vilefridge> and i can run it from a command prompt like that?
[04:35] <kbrooks> vilefridge, no
[04:35] <ChAdWiCk> thanks dwhsix
[04:35] <kbrooks> vilefridge, this isnt magic
[04:35] <PokerFacePenguin> The_Isle_of_Mark: :)
[04:35] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, i don't understand hacker ideology really
[04:35] <hydroksyde> vilefridge: binaries should go in /usr/bin, and libraries (*.so) should go in /usr/lib
[04:35] <navarone> vilefridge> have you installed  or compiled package?
[04:35] <dwhsix> you're welcome... plenty of times I've been here with no answers...
[04:35] <kbrooks> insipid, hacker ideology like what?
[04:35] <vilefridge> navarone: downloaded a pre-compiled package.  All I did was extract it to desktop.
[04:36] <insipid> like what makes these open source programmers "hackers" and these programmers just programmers
[04:36] <insipid> seems like a self-label
[04:36] <PokerFacePenguin> insipid: well, look at it this way...most everyone here is a hacker....there are just varying degrees
[04:36] <hydroksyde> vilefridge: are all the files in one directory, or are there lib and bin directories?
[04:36] <vilefridge> hydroksyde:  No directories, just files.  Let me take a screenshot, one sec :)
[04:37] <PokerFacePenguin> insipid: why else would anyone in their right mind tear apart and rebuild their system for fun
[04:37] <navarone> insipid...a hacker to me anyway isd simply someone who wants to know how something works...a garage mechanic can be a "hacker" in that sense
[04:37] <sorsis> inspid: hacker is somewhat pioneer. programmer does what he is told to do.
[04:37] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid what PokerFacePenguin said is true, they tend to be loners, some introverted to the point of inarticulation, and ideology is something I dont think many of them really think out...I believe that if anything most of them rationalize a reason for doing what they do..whether it be activism or whatnot
[04:37] <vilefridge> hydrosyde: http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2575/screenshotrarfilebrowser1tw.png
[04:37] <crouton> a better word could be 'tweaker'
[04:38] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, wonder where the name came from :)
[04:38] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid, I have a guy that works for me that is a wiz in the true form of the term and he can barely speak to me. I have to ask him for electronic communication only
[04:38] <navarone> vile> have you looked at the readme?
[04:38] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid, it came from ham radio
[04:38] <PokerFacePenguin> The_Isle_of_Mark: for instance, i have a ham radio license....i hack radios too...the media has just villified the term...the originals back in the day with the HomeBrew Computer Club...they represent the hacker spirit to me
[04:39] <vilefridge> navarone: yes, it just describes what Rar does, no install instructions in any of the txt's
[04:39] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, i have a hard time talking to people about computers face to face i can't do it and will just act stupid
[04:39] <SteveW> anyone help with raid install??? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=542339#post542339
[04:39] <hydroksyde> vilefridge, yeah, check the readme. If that doesn't help, copy all the files with diamond icons to /usr/local/bin
[04:39] <The_Isle_of_Mark> PokerFacePenguin, exactly
[04:39] <crouton> haha.. talking computers is fun, but most people's eyes glaze over
[04:39] <vilefridge> hydrosyde:  Can i create a /rar directory in /usr/local/bin or will that keep me from executing from command line?
[04:39] <Trashcan> yay
[04:39] <Trashcan> wireless in linux with ndiswrapper = easy
[04:40] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid, no this guy cant even speak hardly at all...stutters and fidgets, and if you get closer than about 3 feet from him he backs away...but can make a server stand up and do flips
[04:40] <The_Isle_of_Mark> Trashcan, yes indeed
[04:40] <scottott> newbie question...how do you get a downloaded program package into the synaptic package manager...it's in a folder on my desktop now?
[04:40] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, wow severe
[04:40] <hydroksyde> vilefridge: It will, but a way some people get around that is creating a /usr/local/rar directory, and creating symlinks in /usr/local/bin
[04:40] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, i can communicate rather well (as much as i hate being around people physically)
[04:41] <Muldy> ugh
[04:41] <Muldy> linux users arent a bunch of introverts are they?
[04:41] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid, yeah, he sits in his office and codes.
[04:41] <Trashcan> muldy: in an elitist sort of way
[04:41] <insipid> Muldy, no
[04:41] <Trashcan> well, depends on who you ask
[04:41] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid, yeah I have had to learn to communicate personally, I am not the confident gregarious person I appear to be in meetings and conference
[04:41] <Trashcan> the guys here are really nice
[04:41] <insipid> Muldy, linux users are people.. same poeple that sell you beer at the bar
[04:41] <Trashcan> some guys you have to force answers from
[04:41] <jayr> kbrooks, really I think I am doomed
[04:41] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid, Toastmasters changed me
[04:42] <vilefridge> hydroksyde: thanks for the info :)  Although I have nooo idea what Symlinks are I'll google my heart out!
[04:42] <crouton> haha toastmasters
[04:42] <insipid> lol
[04:42] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid, I would not be nearly as successful today had it not been for my local group
[04:42] <Muldy> insipid, i'm not fan of bars.
[04:42] <navarone> good for you Isle
[04:42] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid seriously
[04:42] <Muldy> and i drink wine.
[04:42] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, hehe how about asking for help?
[04:43] <hydroksyde> vilefridge, it would probably be easier just to copy rar and unrar into /usr/local/bin
[04:43] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid how do you mean?
[04:43] <scottott> am i in the wrong place to ask questions about how to use the synaptic package manager?
[04:43] <vilefridge> hydroksyde: alright I think I might end up doing that :)
[04:43] <PokerFacePenguin> The_Isle_of_Mark: no way...you are in sav....im in wayx
[04:44] <PokerFacePenguin> or richmondhill
[04:44] <The_Isle_of_Mark> PokerFacePenguin, cool, but I live in Atlanta most of the time
[04:44] <Muldy> scottott, nope.
[04:44] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, you see on irc i can ask for help all day long if i felt like it.. but in real life I CANNOT ask for help... for example.. if i have questions about my university i wont ask.. i take chances and if the class was the wrong class i would rather waste 800 dollars and 4 months than ask an advisor
[04:45] <scottott> ok, how do you get a downloaded program package into the synaptic package manager so you can install it?
[04:45] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid wow
[04:45] <gar-> does anyone got the chanse to go to the ubuntu seminal on montreal canada?
[04:45] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid perhaps you should try to do something about that
[04:45] <gar-> :P
[04:45] <Madpilot> scottott: which app, and what format is it in?
[04:45] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, i can't shop either.. any kind of shopping or service industry.. i get scared to ask peopple for help
[04:45] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid phobia or just dicomfort?
[04:45] <vilefridge> hydroksyde:  Any idea why it won't let me run the diamond file?  eric@unknown:~/Desktop/rar$ rar
[04:45] <vilefridge> bash: rar: command not found
[04:45] <navarone> insipid> sounds like a socila anxiety prob
[04:45] <scottott> it's called qtopia desktop and it's used for syncing my Sharp Zaurus PDA
[04:46] <insipid> i dunno i guess, im rather happy until i need help :)
[04:46] <vilefridge> scottott:  you have a zaurus?? :O  Can you run standard linux software on there?  Like Skype?
[04:46] <Muldy> scottott, you downloaded it yourself?
[04:46] <insipid> yay 90 percent complete
[04:46] <nicoAMG> Hello!
[04:47] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid you might not be as bad as my employee, but I can see you are similar. put my guy on IM and he is a chatty person.
[04:47] <scottott> I don't know about Skype, since I have only used it on WinXP in the past, but I have a bash terminal on the Zaurus
[04:47] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid talk to him personally and he just shuts down
[04:47] <rixth> !karma rixth
[04:47] <ubotu> rixth has neutral karma
[04:47] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, yep thats me.. i feel less emotionally attached and more mentally attached
[04:47] <rixth> Aww.
[04:47] <hydroksyde> vilefridge,  try ./rar instead
[04:47] <scottott> yes, I downloaded it myself
[04:47] <nekostar> YAY
[04:47] <Muldy> scottott, is it a .deb ?
[04:47] <nekostar> for those who give a fark
[04:47] <rixth> How many times do you need to be ++ to get good karma?
[04:47] <nekostar> ipods working great :O
[04:48] <navarone> Isle of Mark> Some people are just too self conscious one -on-one or in groups...everyone is like that to some degreee
[04:48] <Muldy> rixth, 24/7
[04:48] <scottott> I have a tar.gz file that I have unzipped
[04:48] <vilefridge> hydroksyde: ohhhhh hahha :$ oops
[04:48] <Siph0n> is there a graphical ssh file client?
[04:48] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, if you were to tell me something irl i would probably agree with you unconditionally and support whatever you tell me.. you could tell me windows xp is great irl and i would argue with you
[04:48] <Muldy> scottott, then you cant use synaptic for that
[04:48] <PokerFacePenguin> Siph0n: putty?
[04:48] <rixth> Siph0n, gFTP does it
[04:48] <insipid> im getting better though :)
[04:48] <Muldy> scottott, there will probably be a README you should read that came with that package to see what you should do
[04:48] <nicoAMG> I have trouble with HAL since i udated the kernel on my AMD 64 computer...
[04:48] <insipid> wouldnt argue btw
[04:49] <gar-> anyone here from england
[04:49] <scottott> checking the readme now
[04:49] <nekostar> !kernel
[04:49] <Siph0n> thanx.... gftp it is :)
[04:49] <nekostar> hey anyone compile a kernel in here?
[04:49] <Muldy> everybody
[04:49] <nekostar> . . .
[04:49] <rixth> Not me.
[04:49] <nekostar> for ubuntu?
[04:49] <Muldy> yeah
[04:50] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid good I hope you can work through that. it is a tough world and people tend to take advantage of people like you. seriously, exposure therapy is the best for it
[04:50] <rixth> There is no point updating.
[04:50] <navarone> insipid> voicing an opinion is not a bad thing...however agreeing with something you do not actually agree with can get you labeled as a "kiss-up" or similar
[04:50] <nicoAMG> HAL daemon reports an Internal error and hangs my computer when i start my session...
[04:50] <Muldy> but it's easier using the ubuntu kernels
[04:50] <nekostar> someone was just telling me they dont wanna run ubuntu b/c the kernel compiling thing is buggy or something
[04:50] <nekostar> they wanna get a little deeper in it than just the default kernel etc etc
[04:50] <nekostar> which reminds me
[04:50] <nekostar> i should compile one tonight lol
[04:50] <nekostar> what source do you recommend etc
[04:50] <rixth> nekostar, if you have a SATA drive & a VIA chipset, you cannot compile your own kernel on Ubuntu.
[04:51] <nekostar> vanilla?
[04:51] <Muldy> what do you want to do
[04:51] <nekostar> thats the thing right there rixth
[04:51] <nekostar> ive via but not sata // buddy does though
[04:51] <nekostar> Muldy, what do you mean
[04:51] <nekostar> i just want a newer kernel
[04:51] <nekostar> it can use the same config i suppose as this one does
[04:52] <Muldy> ok but if you use a newer kernel you wont have the ubuntu patches
[04:52] <Muldy> personally i'd stick with stock unless you absolutely needed to upgrade
[04:52] <Madpilot> rixth: why that restriction, out of curiousity? (I have a SATA drive as my only HDD)
[04:52] <insipid> true
[04:52] <nekostar> what ubuntu patches
[04:52] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid hence the nick insipid?
[04:52] <rixth> Madpilot, VIA chipset?
[04:52] <nekostar> and why do i need em
[04:52] <insipid> the_isle_of_mark :)
[04:52] <Madpilot> rixth: NForce 2
[04:52] <insipid> its suitable
[04:52] <Muldy> there are a shitload of patches check the changelog
[04:52] <crouton> what's the latest ubuntu-patched kernel?
[04:52] <nekostar> eh
[04:52] <Muldy> you may or may not need them
[04:52] <nekostar> 2.6-9?
[04:53] <Muldy> i dont know what your needs are
[04:53] <rixth> Madpilot, even if you turn on the flag to compile sata support, it doesn't compile sata_via nor does it tell you WHY it doesn't.
[04:53] <crouton> it's not 2.6.14 at least?
[04:53] <nekostar> 2.6.12-9-386
[04:53] <Muldy> it's 2.6.12-10
[04:53] <PokerFacePenguin> it better than -9
[04:53] <Muldy> that's the latest stock
[04:53] <Madpilot> rixth: crazy...
[04:53] <vilefridge> hydroksyde: It worked and extracted all 50+ files :D :D thank you very much!!!
[04:53] <crouton> but .14 has nice things... :(
[04:53] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, its not therapy i need, what i need to realize is just because people don't logically analyze situations in 1's 0's they are not gonna explode on me all the time
[04:53] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid at least you recognize your traits. I bet that is one of the reasons you love deathmatch games. Online domination of people that you probably wouldnt stand up to irl
[04:53] <nekostar> 12??
[04:54] <Muldy> so install .14 if you really wantit
[04:54] <nekostar> where can i get that at least !_!
[04:54] <hydroksyde> vilefridge: np
[04:54] <crouton> i do
[04:54] <Deanodriver> hey
[04:54] <cyberix> I wonder why my Xorg seems to use 1.5GB of memory.
[04:54] <Deanodriver> my usb drive isn't automounting anymore, it did yesterday
[04:54] <PokerFacePenguin> insipid: you need to take a meyers-briggs test
[04:54] <Muldy> nekostar, the default kernel is 2.6.12-9
[04:54] <cyberix> Any suggestions.
[04:54] <Muldy> for breezy at least
[04:54] <Deanodriver> bloody thing
[04:54] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, i have... what was i again..
[04:54] <hydroksyde> cyberix, Xorg is nasty and bloated
[04:54] <nekostar> Muldy, how can i o: oops lol
[04:54] <insipid> The_Isle_of_mark, intj or something?
[04:54] <Deanodriver> bios detects it
[04:55] <rob1> what do people use to legally obtain mp3s using Linux (without paying for crossover)?
[04:55] <Deanodriver> and cd's still automount
[04:55] <cyberix> hydroksyde: 1.5 GB (!)
[04:55] <nekostar> Muldy, what about the other new thing..
[04:55] <nekostar> dapper
[04:55] <The_Isle_of_Mark> I think you meant PokerFacePenguin for that one
[04:55] <nekostar> what kernel is that atm
[04:55] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, yeah sorry
[04:55] <nekostar> perhaps i can just update the kernel :P
[04:55] <Muldy> nekostar, that's still testing. i do not know anything about it
[04:55] <navarone> insipid> and you have to realize that just like the 1's adn 0's analogy, you cannot simply turn yourself on or off as you see fit in regards to people. Either you saty on and see where it takes you or turn off and never know
[04:55] <hydroksyde> cyberix, yeah, that does seem like a bit much
[04:56] <insipid> navarone, wow :) that was an effective statement
[04:56] <Deanodriver> in Disks Manager, the drive is noticed, but the partition is marked as inaccessible
[04:56] <navarone> insipid...that's cos I didn't turn you off when you were not what I expected
[04:56] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, about the deathmatches thats partialy right.. except its not about dominating others.. its about improving myself
[04:57] <null42> hello all
[04:58] <PokerFacePenguin> <--- sharpening the saw
[04:58] <Madpilot> PokerFacePenguin: "Seven Habits of Highly Defective People"? :D
[04:58] <BotBuilder> insipid - that's what you like to think, yes ^_^
[04:59] <BotBuilder> good lord there's an acronym for that 0_0
[04:59] <nekostar> hrm
[04:59] <SteveW> GUYS, ubuntu screwed up my mbr, what can i do?
[04:59] <Shadda> rewrite the mbr, perhaps?!
[04:59] <PokerFacePenguin> IMHO insipid has far too much FUD IRL
[04:59] <PokerFacePenguin> :P
[05:00] <navarone> fud?
[05:00] <SteveW> shadda, yes, how - i'm dual boot
[05:00] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, i don't want to "dominate" i like to show my hard word... for example.. i don't want people to fear me or not have fun playing with me because i destroyed them and said "omgz u noobz"
[05:00] <PokerFacePenguin> Fear Uncertainty Doubt
[05:00] <Madpilot> everyone: #ubuntu-offtopic exists, and is currently dead quiet - maybe the "life, the universe and everything" discussions could move there?
[05:00] <SteveW> shadda, can i use the live cd to fix it?
[05:01] <PokerFacePenguin> gotta love the net lexicon
[05:01] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, i guess your right though.. i do want to "beat them"
[05:01] <insipid> "wine"
[05:01] <insipid> "win"
[05:01] <gar-> ooooh
[05:02] <insipid> sorry
[05:02] <cjfs> this conversation seems rather one sided
[05:02] <gar-> i use Wine to run world of warcraft
[05:02] <gar-> and is a PITA
[05:02] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, download complete :)
[05:02] <cjfs> is Wine ever not a pain in the ass?
[05:03] <gar-> it gave me alot off problem the fist time i use it
[05:03] <insipid> cjfs, not sure why we are all talking about my personality on an ubuntu channel :)  i think we all got bored
[05:03] <BotBuilder> oi, how do i make an svn repository
[05:03] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid hey sorry was afk. so its reinstallation time?
[05:03] <BotBuilder> not a checkout or anything like that
[05:03] <gar-> rofllllllllllll
[05:03] <BotBuilder> make on that can be served by svnserve
[05:03] <Muldy> http://viqles.un.geek.nz/SaveMoneyAtXmas.jpg
[05:04] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, yeah i gotta grab a cd burner package burn this bad boy and im good to go
[05:04] <tc450> anyone know what's up with dalnet ?
[05:04] <The_Isle_of_Mark> gnomebaker
[05:04] <insipid> i thought it was gnometoaster
[05:04] <insipid> *shrug*
[05:05] <PokerFacePenguin> insipid: you are confusing it with another package
[05:05] <Madpilot> insipid: Nautilus will burn ISOs & data CDs just fine
[05:05] <insipid> PokerFacePenguin, yeah its been a while
[05:05] <Madpilot> Muldy: that's in gloriously bad taste, thanks for sharing! :P
[05:05] <insipid> Madpilot, oh
[05:05] <Muldy> Madpilot, no problem :)
[05:06] <insipid> Madpilot, dangit since when did unix become so desktop friendly
[05:06] <navarone> I think Serpentine is default for audio burning ...if you simply put ina  blank cd-r
[05:06] <Madpilot> insipid: no idea about Unix, but Linux is desktop friendly right now :)
[05:06] <Madpilot> navarone: it is
[05:07] <wickedpuppy> insipid, freebsd isn't that hard to use :P it even has linux compatibility ...
[05:07] <navarone> Madpilot...and works quite well too...operation is almost transparent
[05:07] <sjke> hi all.. I have what I hope is a quick question about the ubuntu bittorrent.. how do u change the port being used, I have not found anyplace to config.. cheers :)
[05:07] <Madpilot> navarone: yeah, I like Serpentine, it's a slick app
[05:07] <SteveW> noob here! ubuntu screwed up my mbr, how can i fix?
[05:08] <Muldy> screwed up?
[05:08] <navarone> Madpilot...have you tried rythmbox and burning playlist?
[05:08] <wickedpuppy> SteveW, thats a bad way to start asking ... lol
[05:08] <wickedpuppy> especially in a channel full of ubuntu zealots :P
[05:08] <sjke> SteveW, are u dual booting or something?
[05:08] <sm> evening all
[05:09] <Madpilot> navarone: haven't yet; I did notice that Serpentine didn't seem to save the track's info, though
[05:09] <vladuz976> how do i use md5sum to check it on an iso i downloaded
[05:09] <SteveW> wickedpuppy, i've been trying to install ubuntu on my system for a couple of days, no luck http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=542339#post542339
[05:09] <sm> is it just me, or is firefox 1.5 on breezy hanging like a mother ?
[05:09] <nmsa> vladuz976: cksum ./file.iso, salut!
[05:09] <SteveW> sjke, yes, plus its full raid1, a real pain in the butt. see my post ( # 2 ) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=542339#post542339
[05:09] <PokerFacePenguin> PokerFacePenguin </dev/null
[05:10] <cjfs> sm: firefox 1.5 on anything hangs :)
[05:10] <vladuz976> nmsa: not md5sum?
[05:10] <freakazoid333> i have brezzy badger running on a desktop pc (along with this nb) and the 60hz refresh rate of the crt is killing my eyes. loaded the ati drivers i found using synaptic but i still cant find an option to change it. where should i look
[05:10] <cjfs> it's a feature!
[05:10] <Muldy> ff 1.5 works fine
[05:10] <insipid> oh heck
[05:10] <nekostar> so whats the point of all the patches to the kernel>?
[05:11] <insipid> *has to deal with fstab cuz he broke it!*
[05:11] <trappist> each one has a different point
[05:11] <cjfs> nekostar: if we don't patch it, it gets angry
[05:11] <nekostar> freakazoid333, in terminal:
[05:11] <freakazoid333> ok
[05:11] <nekostar> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:11] <nekostar> but
[05:11] <nelposto> oh intelligent ones
[05:11] <nekostar> before you execute that
[05:11] <sjke> SteveW, what other operating sys u running?
[05:11] <prasert> Hello, everybody
[05:11] <lemur> hello
[05:11] <freakazoid333> su?
[05:11] <nmsa> vladutz976: md5sum archive_name.zip
[05:11] <SteveW> sjke, xp
[05:11] <nekostar> system > preferences > screen resolution
[05:11] <nekostar> :)
[05:12] <lemur> Quick gnome question: where is my home folder icon? :(
[05:12] <prasert> i new user in ubuntu
[05:12] <nekostar> just in case what you want is in there
[05:12] <freakazoid333> ahh good cal :D
[05:12] <prasert> please help me
[05:12] <nekostar> lol
[05:12] <freakazoid333> duh
[05:12] <nekostar> what cha need prasert
[05:12] <nelposto> when i first installed ubuntu on this laptop, I had to run the command vga=771 otherwise the screen was all bad
[05:12] <nekostar> angry eh cjfs
[05:12] <nelposto> now i have installed some ati drivers, and the screen goes bad like it went before I passed it that command
[05:12] <cjfs> nekostar: yeah, you ever seen an angry penguin?
[05:12] <irvin> lemur: Quick gnome answer" where is should be... what's the problem
[05:12] <nekostar> heh
[05:12] <nekostar> not really
[05:13] <prasert> how to config ubuntu for transparent like kde
[05:13] <nmsa> vladuz976: http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/using_md5sums.html
[05:13] <cjfs> you don't want to mess with a penguin, keep it patched and happy :)
[05:13] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, i hate asking for quick answers but /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[05:13] <nelposto> is there anyway for me to edit vga=771 into some file to run it alongside with the ati drivers?
[05:13] <lemur> irvin: problem is I don't have my home folder on my desktop...there must be some inanely simple solution
[05:13] <navarone> cjfs> I read Torvald was bitten by penguin at a zoo...that's why Tux is Linux mascot...
[05:13] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, im missing something
[05:13] <sjke> SteveW, http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/Default.asp?url=/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/prkd_tro_ldau.asp
[05:13] <nekostar> lemur, you want your home folder to be on the desktop?
[05:13] <irvin> No there is no home folder icon the the desktop by default
[05:14] <nekostar> are you running gnome?
[05:14] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid sorry
[05:14] <lemur> nekostar: I kid you not
[05:14] <nekostar> o
[05:14] <lemur> nekostar, yes
[05:14] <nekostar> thats fairly easy
[05:14] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid are you burning it command line?
[05:14] <nekostar> applications > system tools > configuration editor
[05:14] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, no.. because i dont undersatnd how gnome handles mounting
[05:14] <Killer_Smurf> anyone have an idea how to make my master control for volume really control the volume.  It's on an acer laptop
[05:14] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, so i let gnomebaker do it
[05:14] <nekostar> apps > nautiilus
[05:15] <nekostar>  >> desktop
[05:15] <nekostar> click the icons you wanna see
[05:15] <nekostar> :)
[05:15] <dragonbyte> has anyone here done the CISSP cert?
[05:15] <SteveW> sjke, thanks for that!
[05:15] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid dev/hdc should be linked as media/cdrom
[05:15] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid dev/hdc should be linked as media/cdrom0
[05:15] <lemur> nekostar, nice...thanks =)
[05:15] <nekostar> np man
[05:15] <sjke> np
[05:15] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, it is
[05:15] <nekostar> i recommend getting some extra themes and stuff
[05:16] <nekostar> there are some nice packages for that :)
[05:16] <insipid> nekostar, ohh theme packages!
[05:16] <insipid> sexy
[05:16] <nekostar> yeah!
[05:16] <insipid> freshmeat?
[05:16] <nekostar> they even have one that dl's from the art place where they make em or so
[05:16] <nekostar> i put em all in on gp
[05:16] <Madpilot> !themes
[05:16] <nekostar> gp == general principals
[05:16] <nekostar> :D
[05:17] <prasert> good bye see you later
[05:17] <Madpilot> gah, that one's too long to display, but here:  themes is try installing gnome-art (sudo apt-get install gnome-art) and running it from System -> Preferences -> Art Manager (On Breezy). It downloads and installs themes from art.gnome.org. Some other sites with various themes include: http://art.ubuntu.com - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com. See also !KDE
[05:17] <Madpilot> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?
[05:17] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid so it isnt finding your hardware?
[05:17] <defendguin> anyone here ever run a jabber server?
[05:17] <insipid> umount: /media/cdrom0 mount disagrees with the fstab
[05:17] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, i can read cd's fine
[05:18] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid, is cdrom0 your burner?
[05:18] <insipid> aye
[05:18] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid or do you have more than one?
[05:18] <insipid> only one drive
[05:18] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid sheesh you have problems with this stuff, eh?
[05:19] <The_Isle_of_Mark> lol
[05:19] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, only cuz im a hurry
[05:19] <imajuchi> hello everyone, I would like someone to explain something to me. I need to share some files with a friend. I want him to be able to go into the internet and download from me the files he needs like when you download something from a regular website. do i need to setup an ftp server or are there any program like that ,that i might use. thank you
[05:19] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid ok well is the drive mounted in fstab or from command line
[05:19] <insipid> to get the kernel
[05:20] <varsendagger> ---offtopic does anyone know how to make irish cream?
[05:20] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, yep gnome mounted it
[05:20] <irvin> imajuchi: do you have broadband connection?
[05:20] <imajuchi> yes
[05:20] <dragonbyte> varsendagger: dangerous question begging for a dirty answer
[05:20] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid gnome is cd insert aware so when you drop a cd in it mounts it or asks you what to do if it is blank
[05:20] <varsendagger> dragonbyte, true
[05:20] <irvin> imajuchi: yes you can install ftp to serve files off the net
[05:20] <varsendagger> imajuchi, is that a yes to my question?
[05:21] <imajuchi> no to irvin
[05:21] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid so umount the drive, setup your iso to be burned then it should ask you for a cd.
[05:21] <Ksatria> tytyty
[05:21] <dragonbyte> varsendagger: are you wanting to know how to specifically make the stuff in the bottle, or a drink using it?
[05:21] <imajuchi> irvin
[05:21] <varsendagger> make the stuff in a bottle
[05:21] <Ksatria> uuui
[05:21] <dragonbyte> varsendagger: no idea
[05:21] <imajuchi> which one is a good ftp server
[05:21] <Ksatria> hallo
[05:21] <dragonbyte> varsendagger: i bet google or wikipedia knows :)
[05:21] <Ksatria> ghskdhgjdshg
[05:21] <Ksatria> gshgkjsdhg
[05:21] <Ksatria> gjhhgjkjg
[05:22] <imajuchi> and do you know where i can find a good guide
[05:22] <Ksatria> gjshgghuehy
[05:22] <Ksatria> gsg
[05:22] <Ksatria> gs
[05:22] <Ksatria> gs
[05:22] <Ksatria> gsg
[05:22] <Ksatria> s
[05:22] <imajuchi> thank you very much
[05:22] <Ksatria> gg
[05:22] <Ksatria> sg
[05:22] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, yeah nautilus wants to handle it
[05:22] <Ksatria> g
[05:22] <Ksatria> s
[05:22] <Ksatria> g
[05:22] <Ksatria> sg
[05:22] <BotBuilder> wtf
[05:22] <Ksatria> s
[05:22] <Ksatria> g
[05:22] <Ksatria> g
[05:22] <Ophiocus> someones cat is on the loose
[05:22] <Ksatria> gs
[05:22] <Ksatria> gs
[05:22] <Ksatria> g
[05:22] <BotBuilder> lol
[05:22] <Ksatria> s
[05:22] <Ksatria> gs
[05:22] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid, ok let it
[05:22] <Ksatria> g
[05:22] <Ksatria> s
[05:22] <Ksatria> ss
[05:22] <Ksatria> g
[05:22] <BotBuilder> someone kick ksatria
[05:22] <Ksatria> sg
[05:22] <Ksatria> s
[05:22] <Ksatria> g
[05:22] <insipid> okay so be it :)
[05:22] <Ksatria> s
[05:22] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid I just like gnomebaker a little better
[05:22] <Ksatria> g
[05:22] <Ksatria> ggd
[05:22] <Ksatria> dd
[05:22] <Ksatria> dgszg
[05:23] <SteveW> ubotu tell ksatria about everything
[05:23] <Ksatria> g
[05:23] <Ksatria> s
[05:23] <Ophiocus> it kinda spaces out the text though :P
[05:23] <Ksatria> g
[05:23] <Ksatria> s
[05:23] <Ksatria> tg
[05:23] <Ksatria> rg
[05:23] <Ksatria> g
[05:23] <BotBuilder> Ophiocus: yeah, very true
[05:23] <SteveW> ubotu tell ksatria about ubuntu
[05:23] <nekostar> .......................
[05:24] <SteveW> hmm. the bot seems to have fixed her?
[05:24] <nekostar> * [Ksatria]  (n=hafidzsy@202.95.134.238): ksatria
[05:24] <nekostar> interesting
[05:24] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, ouch...
[05:24] <imajuchi> irvin, i have gftp, can i used it to serve files and will he needs to download a client or just click on a link?
[05:24] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid ?
[05:24] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, oh whew.. i thought it was gonna do 4x
[05:24] <hydroksyde> SteveW, does everything mean... everything?
[05:24] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid lol I dunno it might
[05:25] <nekostar> >:P
[05:25] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid gnomebaker and k3b are decent apps though
[05:25] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, *nod* i liked how it looked
[05:25] <SteveW> hydroksyde, no, unfortunately
[05:25] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, ill tell you what i dont like as far as looks though.. default ubuntu gnome theme :)
[05:26] <navarone> I go for a minute and I miss the flood
[05:26] <SteveW> hydroksyde, help me in my despair! post # 2 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98624
[05:26] <insipid> lol
[05:26] <ULffuntu> anybody here jam on beepmediaplayr?
[05:26] <wickedpuppy> !ops
[05:26] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[05:26] <hydroksyde> *clieck*
[05:26] <wickedpuppy> ah heck
[05:26] <nalioth> wickedpuppy:
[05:27] <wickedpuppy> insipid, i can swear by k3b :P
[05:27] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid what dont you like about the default theme? it is warm and comfy and wants to grab all who use buntu and give them a nice brown hug
[05:27] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, i kind of like fluxbox myself.. i may go back to that i dunno..
[05:27] <navarone> It's like choclate and cocao
[05:27] <wickedpuppy> nalioth, Ksatria ... above
[05:27] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, gnome is a big flashy
[05:27] <insipid> bit
[05:27] <nekostar> nalioth, Ksatria er
[05:27] <nekostar> nvm
[05:27] <wickedpuppy> he is quite now though
[05:27] <navarone> gnome is flashy compared to kde?
[05:27] <nekostar> dam you wickedpuppy
[05:27] <nekostar> DAM U
[05:27] <nekostar> lol
[05:28] <imajuchi> any one can recommend me a good ftp server for ubuntu?
[05:28] <nekostar> navarone, gnome is quite nice
[05:28] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, lol its really bland theme.. and gnome is just flashy compared to what im used to neko
[05:28] <nekostar> where are you at imajuchi
[05:28] <navarone> nekostar> I prefer gmome over kde anyday
[05:28] <nekostar> yeah
[05:28] <nekostar> thats me
[05:28] <imajuchi> home :)
[05:28] <nekostar> :D
[05:28] <navarone> looks good in the front yard too...<s>
[05:28] <dbarbi1> when i'm trying to install the ati drivers, i issue the command "sudo depmod -a ; sudo modprobe fglrx" and i'm getting an error: "Fatal: error inserting fglrx (lib/modules/2.6.12-10-686/volatile/fglrx.ko): No such device"
[05:28] <nekostar> lol
[05:28] <imajuchi> why?
[05:28] <dbarbi1> can anybody help
[05:28] <sellsw> hello, how is everyone
[05:29] <wickedpuppy> thanks nalioth :P
[05:29] <nekostar> er why what imajuchi
[05:29] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid I like flux, but it is boring...it is a new millenium people should allow their machines to be nice looking...it isnt like it takes huge amounts of ram when compared to the amounts machines have in them nowadays
[05:29] <imajuchi> why you ask me :)
[05:29] <nekostar> The_Isle_of_Mark,
[05:29] <nekostar> actually
[05:29] <sellsw> i am kind of proud of myself, I set this irc chat up on my ibook
[05:29] <sjke> anyone clued up on changing the port used by the bittorrent included with ubuntu 5.10???
[05:29] <nekostar> i can tell the diff b/t gnome and flux
[05:30] <irvin> anyone familiar with the the package archives?
[05:30] <nekostar> o:
[05:30] <The_Isle_of_Mark> nekostar of course you can, that isnt waht I was saying
[05:30] <wickedpuppy> sjke, no green light ?
[05:30] <nekostar> i meant for the ftp server geographically
[05:30] <imajuchi> usa
[05:30] <nekostar> The_Isle_of_Mark, i mean in performance
[05:30] <nekostar> but hey i like gnome :D
[05:30] <nekostar> though i keep openbox in
[05:30] <sjke> wickedpuppy, it is using a port that is banned on the tracker I want to use.. is a problem
[05:30] <irvin> i want to download all packages off the net from archive.ubuntu.com, which one do i get? dists/breezy or the pool directory?
[05:30] <The_Isle_of_Mark> nekostar again not what I was saying
[05:30] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, i dont like configuring it though
[05:30] <nekostar> imajuchi, then do this i guess
[05:30] <nekostar> !sources
[05:30] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:31] <nekostar> the breezy one
[05:31] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, setting up those menu's through command line gets old
[05:31] <nekostar> put that in-- sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources
[05:31] <Madpilot> irvin: you're far better off letting Synaptic or apt-get handle the downloads
[05:31] <nekostar> and uncomment everythign
[05:31] <wickedpuppy> sjke, you can change port by Tools -> Nat/ Firewall test or go through the wizard again
[05:31] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid I used windowmaker for years, years I tell you. I was dragged into gnome kicking and screaming, but I like it now
[05:31] <imajuchi> ok
[05:31] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, anyhow... the time has come.. muahaha im downgrading to 32 bit!
[05:31] <nekostar> The_Isle_of_Mark, im with ya why not run it.. i mean compaired to windows its better
[05:31] <nekostar> i mean dam
[05:31] <sjke> there is no Tools
[05:32] <sjke> it isn't azureus
[05:32] <The_Isle_of_Mark> nekostar compared to windows my old ti55 calc is better...it never crashes
[05:32] <wickedpuppy> oh
[05:32] <nekostar> this machine runs better ::: xp atholon 2000+ / 1 gig ram compaired to xp atholon 3000+ /  1 gig ram
[05:32] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, il be back shortly
[05:32] <nekostar> lmfao The_Isle_of_Mark
[05:32] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid GL man and hope it fixes it for you until 64bit is ubiquitous
[05:32] <sjke> wickedpuppy, just the standard bittorrent included in the packages under internet
[05:32] <insipid> *nod*
[05:33] <nekostar> arg
[05:33] <nekostar> sjke,
[05:33] <nekostar> do NOT use those
[05:33] <imajuchi> nekostar, do you know a good ftp server
[05:33] <nekostar> get bittornado
[05:33] <dbarbi1> can anybody help get these ati drivers installed?
[05:33] <nekostar> not really i guess imajuchi
[05:33] <wickedpuppy> sjke, use bittornado or azureus ?
[05:33] <nekostar> the source o matic might :/
[05:33] <nekostar> very good wickedpuppy
[05:33] <nekostar> :)
[05:33] <imajuchi> thank you anyway :)
[05:33] <sellsw> is anyone using chat on a computer other than a linux box
[05:33] <The_Isle_of_Mark> imajuchi proftpd and vsftpd are both ok, I prefer vsftpd
[05:33] <nekostar> sorry bout that imajuchi
[05:33] <proiect_ubuntu> vladuz976: are you there? can I ask you something?
[05:34] <nekostar> i forget that not all of em are both http and ftp
[05:34] <BotBuilder> sellsw - i am
[05:34] <BotBuilder> winxp
[05:34] <sjke> wickedpuppy.. yeah I think that might be the way to go.. I'll load up azureus.. it has always been good to me *s* just figured there would be a way to configure the one already there..
[05:34] <imajuchi> thank you the isle of mark :)
[05:34] <nekostar> oooo
[05:34] <BotBuilder> sshing into my ubuntu box ;p
[05:34] <nekostar> proftpd was nice to me!
[05:34] <The_Isle_of_Mark> imajuchi, no problem
[05:34] <nekostar> lol swt BotBuilder
[05:34] <imajuchi> and they have gproftpd too
[05:34] <nekostar> o.O
[05:34] <imajuchi> ill give then i try
[05:35] <BotBuilder> nekostar: swt?
[05:35] <nekostar> really? thats interesting
[05:35] <imajuchi> :)
[05:35] <nekostar> sweet lol
[05:35] <nekostar> sorry i forgot thats a az library of some sort
[05:35] <nekostar> though i tend to get a wierd thing with az on ubuntu
[05:35] <nekostar> when i resize the window the insides of the window dont resize
[05:36] <nekostar> unless i restart az
[05:36] <nekostar> and it wont do updates
[05:36] <nekostar> !_!
[05:36] <ubotu> nekostar: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[05:36] <nekostar> meh
[05:36] <BotBuilder> nekostar abbreviates too much
[05:36] <nekostar> waaa?
[05:37] <nekostar> that was two abbriviations..,.
[05:37] <nekostar> az and swt
[05:37] <Madpilot> nekostar: try that smiley now :D
[05:37] <nekostar> :D
[05:37] <nekostar> ~_^ :) ;)
[05:37] <nekostar> !_!
[05:37] <ubotu> nekostar: I don't know, could you explain it?
[05:37] <nekostar> lol
[05:38] <nekostar> ubotu asked if i was smoking crack earlier or something lol
[05:38] <ubotu> Not a clue, nekostar
[05:38] <nekostar> arg
[05:38] <Madpilot> nekostar: meh, was supposed to do something different (I'm messing with the bot's brain in a pm...)
[05:38] <nekostar> dont make me get the hooker back out ubo tu
[05:38] <nekostar> hehe
[05:38] <nekostar> let me know im willing to help test any time
[05:38] <nekostar> and btw
[05:38] <nekostar> awesome bot :D
[05:38] <nekostar> !_!
[05:38] <ubotu> nekostar: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[05:38] <nekostar> o.o
[05:38] <BotBuilder> lol
[05:38] <nekostar> yes
[05:38] <nekostar> it might be
[05:38] <nekostar> hehe
[05:38] <nekostar> brb smoke ^^
[05:39] <The_Isle_of_Mark> nekostar goes to find his crack pipe
[05:41] <imajuchi> thank you the isle of mark, I was reading about vsftpd and i seems really really good and safe :)
[05:41] <The_Isle_of_Mark> imajuchi, as far as ftp goes I guess it is
[05:41] <blanky> guys, it's make, make install, ./configure, right?
[05:41] <jeff_> hey guys
[05:41] <imajuchi> yes
[05:41] <blanky> thanks dogg
[05:42] <jeff_> i just downlaoded a movie and i have the following files
[05:42] <imajuchi> no
[05:42] <imajuchi> its backward
[05:42] <blanky> oh it isnt?
[05:42] <darkgamer20> can someone please help me with my printer problem. i added the printer in the gnome printer manager but when i try and print nothing happens. please help me. I am a little new to linux
[05:42] <wickedpuppy> blanky, ./configure , make , make install
[05:42] <imajuchi> ./configure
[05:42] <imajuchi> make
[05:42] <jeff_> cd1.bin cd2.bin cd1.cue cd2.cue
[05:42] <blanky> ./configure, make, make install, okay thanks guys!
[05:42] <imajuchi> make install
[05:42] <imajuchi> yes
[05:42] <Madpilot> !tell darkgamer20 about printers
[05:42] <jeff_> does anybody know how i can play the movie?
[05:42] <imajuchi> dvd?
[05:42] <jeff_> i dont know
[05:43] <The_Isle_of_Mark> jeff those are disc juggler files I think
[05:43] <jeff_> hmm
[05:43] <jeff_> its Jarhead
[05:43] <nekostar> lol The_Isle_of_Mark
[05:43] <logical_mark> Hey can someone tell me where I can get the win32codecs for MPlayer?
[05:43] <jeff_> what do i do with jugglers?
[05:43] <imajuchi> but in a disk?
[05:43] <The_Isle_of_Mark> jeff_, search for that on google
[05:43] <nekostar> !win32codecs
[05:43] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, win32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[05:43] <nekostar> or actually
[05:43] <imajuchi> apt-get.org
[05:44] <nekostar> logical_mark, you want my sources file?
[05:44] <imajuchi> look in the long list or do a find for win32codecs
[05:44] <jeff_> the_isle_of_mark: google jugglers?
[05:44] <nekostar> !google
[05:44] <ubotu> nekostar: I haven't a clue
[05:44] <nekostar> lol
[05:44] <nekostar> that one needs to be defined
[05:44] <imajuchi> jeff, you have a disk or is it a file?
[05:44] <nekostar> google -- www.justgoogleit.com
[05:44] <nekostar> or
[05:44] <nekostar> google -- www.justfuckinggoogleit.com
[05:44] <nekostar> hehe
[05:44] <darkgamer20> Madpilot: thanks for that page, but am certain that my printer is supported with the hplip driver, i just need some help getting it going
[05:45] <jeff_> the_isle_of_mark: i just have the files
[05:45] <logical_mark> nekostar: I am new to linux and wouldn't knwo what to do with them? Could you tell me? Go ahead and send them of course- Thanks!
[05:45] <nekostar> sure!
[05:45] <jeff_> lol
[05:45] <The_Isle_of_Mark> jeff_, http://www.afterdawn.com/faq/general_playback/how_do_i_play_bin_and_cue_files.cfm
[05:45] <nekostar> ok
 So I've got his video driver problem...
[05:45] <nekostar> now go to the dcc directory and do:
[05:45] <ramza3> if I am moving my laptop around, from network to network.  Normally windows just picks it up.  Does ubuntu do the same thing.  I notice I have my old DNS names in there
[05:45] <imajuchi> i would recommend you to go into the ubuntu forum jeff and look for automatix and install it
[05:45] <nekostar> sudo cp sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:46] <nekostar> then
[05:46] <imajuchi> i has almost all the plugings you need to see movies and listen to music
[05:46] <nekostar> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:46] <nekostar> then you can see them
[05:46] <jeff_> imajuchi: what do i need to install?
[05:46] <nekostar> i have em set up so that i can get any package i desire
[05:46] <nekostar> so consider local laws if you desire
[05:46] <imajuchi> dowload the file there
[05:46] <imajuchi> run the script
[05:46] <nekostar> when your satisfied that your good there
[05:47] <nekostar> [comment out any you dont want with #] 
[05:47] <nekostar> then save and close gedit
[05:47] <imajuchi> and it will install in the system tools
[05:47] <rainbowjoshua> I have this problem on an onboard Radeon Xpress 200...
[05:47] <imajuchi> then
[05:47] <nekostar> then in terminal run sudo apt-get update
[05:47] <imajuchi> run it
[05:47] <nekostar> say twice
[05:47] <imajuchi> and install anything you feel you need
[05:47] <imajuchi> they have very good info in the forum
[05:47] <nekostar> also consult:
[05:47] <logical_mark> nekostar: what do I do with the file now?
[05:48] <nekostar> what irc are you running logical_mark ? xchat?
[05:48] <darkgamer20> ok guys I tried installing the hpoj driver but my printer still dose not do any printing yet. please help oh btw its an hp officejet k80
[05:48] <nekostar> in terminal for that cd ~/.xchat2/downloads
[05:48] <darkgamer20> please i have been at this for hours
[05:48] <bur[n] er> darkgamer20: using usb?
[05:48] <logical_mark> yes - and the default folder is in my home directory, but it is hidden and I don't know how to reveal it.
[05:48] <bur[n] er> darkgamer20: did you restart cups after installing the hpoj driver?
[05:48] <nekostar> sudo cp sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:48] <imajuchi> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66563&highlight=Automatix
[05:48] <Madpilot> darkgamer20: did you get a msg from ubotu with a couple of URLs?
[05:48] <bur[n] er> logical_mark: ctrl+h
[05:48] <imajuchi> jeff, thats the link
[05:48] <nekostar> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:49] <rainbowjoshua> heeeelllpp.... heeeelppp....
[05:49] <nekostar> then comment out any lines you dont want with # <<-- that
[05:49] <darkgamer20> Madpilot: yes, but i know my printer is supported
[05:49] <ramza3> hmm, reading up I see issues with ubuntu and dhcp
[05:49] <nekostar> rainbowjoshua, what exactly is the problem?
[05:49] <logical_mark> nekostar: Thanks! Now what?
[05:49] <nekostar> now in terminal:
[05:49] <darkgamer20> bur[n] er: oh thanks you i will try that and report back
[05:49] <nekostar> sudo apt-get update
[05:49] <nekostar> do that twice
[05:50] <nekostar> then you can use apt-get or synaptic to get any package availiable
[05:50] <nekostar> ^_^
[05:50] <nekostar> im fairly new myself but dam its nice
[05:50] <nekostar> btw handles ipods rather easy too :)
[05:50] <imajuchi> nekostar, do you know if the f80 works on ubuntu?
[05:50] <nekostar> f80 >?
[05:51] !lilo:*! Whoops, sorry, had some clonebots to handle.
[05:51] <bur[n] er> nekostar: using banshee? gtkpod? or rhythmbox?\
[05:51] <jeff_> imajuchi: i think i already have automatix. what do i need to install to play my movie (its in .bin and .cue files)
[05:51] <imajuchi> cannon multipase f80
[05:51] <thewayofzen> out of curiousity i installed kubuntu-desktop to see what kde was about.. cause i hadnt tried it in so long.  but removing it didnt remove all the stuff it isntalled.. how do i get rid of all that unwanted stuff now?
[05:51] <logical_mark> Nekostar: now what?
[05:51] <imajuchi> ohhhhhhhhhh
[05:51] <imajuchi> umm
[05:51] <nekostar> ok
[05:51] <bur[n] er> jeff_: that's a cd image... you can burn it to disk... or extract the .bin
[05:51] <darkgamer20> bur[n] er, ok i restarted cups with: sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart, and tried to print from openoffice.org but my printer still dose not do anything
[05:51] <nekostar> what was it you wanted in the first place logical_mark sorry lol
[05:51] <imajuchi> burn it to a disk
[05:51] <nekostar> the codecs?
[05:51] <bur[n] er> darkgamer20: does the gnome printer manager see the printer?
[05:51] <imajuchi> or try to mount it
[05:51] <bur[n] er> darkgamer20: is it usb?
[05:51] <jeff_> bur[n] er: how do i extract the .bins?
[05:51] <nekostar> ubotu, restricted formats
[05:51] <ubotu> restricted formats is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[05:52] <darkgamer20> bur[n] er, yes and yes it is usb
[05:52] <logical_mark> nekostar: you sent me your sources.list file so that I could get the w32codecs
[05:52] <nekostar> follow that
[05:52] <bur[n] er> jeff_: good question ;)  file-roller maybe?
[05:52] <nekostar> :)
[05:52] <jeff_> bur[n] er: lol
[05:52] <logical_mark> nekostar: now I have the file and I need to know where the original is for me to replace
[05:52] <nekostar> but you can just apt-get the packages and shouldnt have to build any or http dl any
[05:52] <bur[n] er> darkgamer20: can you print from 'gedit' ?
[05:52] <QMario> How do I use CD-RWs in Linux?
[05:52] <nekostar> ok
[05:52] <nekostar> lets start over with ya logical_mark :P
[05:52] <imajuchi> gnomebaker
[05:52] <nekostar> what are you using for irc>?
[05:52] <nekostar> xchat
[05:52] <nekostar> ok
[05:53] <darkgamer20> bur[n] er, let me try that
[05:53] <nekostar> then in the xchat dl directory :: ~/.xchat2/downloads
[05:53] <imajuchi> qmario, use gnomebaker to write and erase them :)
[05:53] <nekostar> is where the file is at
[05:53] <logical_mark> Nekostar: yes, sources.list
[05:53] <nekostar> so in a terminal :: applications > accessories > terminal
[05:53] <nekostar> yes
[05:53] <darkgamer20> bur[n] er, nope nothing happens still
[05:53] <imajuchi> or k3b :)
[05:53] <theCore> guys, do you know were is the 'buildd' trunk?
[05:53] <nekostar> open terminal and do this:
[05:53] <bur[n] er> darkgamer20: i knwo don't know why,k but my printers are diff in oo and gedit...
[05:54] <nekostar> sudo cp ~/.xchat/downloads/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:54] <darkgamer20> bur[n] er, oh ok, what is your printer?
[05:54] <bur[n] er> darkgamer20: well, ya got me then ;)  you went through the gnome printer setup with it I assume... can you try using hte web based cups? localhost:631
[05:54] <heatxsink> anyone in here have problems with LIRC working with the lastest kernel?
[05:54] <imajuchi> well thank you everyone for the help
[05:54] <bur[n] er> darkgamer20: hp psc 1209
[05:54] <imajuchi> good night or day :)
[05:54] <nekostar> it will ask your pass.. thats your user pass
[05:55] <nekostar> with me so far logical_mark ?
[05:55] <darkgamer20> bur[n] er, using cups...i need a user and pass and in other distros i used the root acc...but in ubuntu its disabled
[05:55] <DaOne> hey pplz can someone help me wit transferring my ubuntu installation onto another disk?
[05:55] <crouton> Ranish
[05:55] <logical_mark> Nekostar: yes one sec
[05:55] <bur[n] er> darkgamer20: oh... got me then ;)
[05:55] <darkgamer20> bur[n] er, your printer uses the hpoj driver rite?
[05:55] <bur[n] er> darkgamer20: yep
[05:55] <darkgamer20> bur[n] er, what did you do to get it going?
[05:55] <bur[n] er> darkgamer20: scanning works for me too :)
[05:56] <darkgamer20> wow
[05:56] <jeff_> how could i mount the movie?
[05:56] <darkgamer20> bur[n] er, so then you must use the hlip?
[05:56] <bur[n] er> i went through the gnome printer admin... it saw a usb printer (when i had it usb) i told it to use the hpoj driver, i clicked print
[05:56] <bur[n] er> ;)
[05:56] <bur[n] er> actually maybe I do
[05:56] <Madpilot> darkgamer20: I've got an HP Deskjet 5740 - printer only, not combo - and it worked just like bur[n] er's did...
[05:56] <darkgamer20> hmmmm
[05:56] <logical_mark> Nekostar: ok that is done
[05:57] <DaOne> hey anyone know anything about transferring ubuntu from one HDD to another?
[05:57] <nekostar> ok
[05:57] <nekostar> now let me ask you a question
[05:57] <bur[n] er> DaOne: just copy it all :)
[05:57] <luisito> how can I take a screenshot of a video playing in gxine?
[05:57] <The_Isle_of_Mark> DaOne, dd
[05:57] <darkgamer20> Madpilot and bur[n] er, was yours turned off when you went through setup?
[05:57] <nekostar> are you concerned with any legalities locally?
[05:57] <nekostar> if not
[05:57] <bur[n] er> darkgamer20: on the whole time
[05:57] <nekostar> then just do :: sudo apt-get update
[05:57] <bur[n] er> darkgamer20: this isn't windows ;)
[05:57] <darkgamer20> bur[n] er, haha rite
[05:57] <crouton> DaOne - google for 'Ranish', you can put it on a CD or get it via a System Restore CD and copy the entire drive wholesale.
[05:58] <bur[n] er> darkgamer20: I use the hpijs driver it seems
[05:58] <gigamonkey> Hmmm, I just updated by system today (after not having done so for several months) and now when I reboot my X configuration seems dorked up.
[05:58] <logical_mark> nekostar: I could care less. Second, I own a copy of XP Pro, so to my understanding haveing the w32codecs is legit
[05:58] <navarone> DaOne...you can get iso and burn to cd for Gghost for Linux at freshmeat...or sourceforge...google it
[05:58] <nekostar> awesome
[05:58] <nekostar> then just do the apt-get update
[05:58] <nekostar> and go on to the restricted formats page
[05:58] <gigamonkey> It seems to have reverted to the configuration for monitor I used to use and now I get a "scan out of range" message on my screen.
[05:58] <QMario> Imajuchi, thank you! :)
[05:59] <The_Isle_of_Mark> DaOne, use partimage
[05:59] <bur[n] er> navarone: Gghost?
[05:59] <navarone> Ghost...lol
[05:59] <gigamonkey> Is there any simple way to reconfigure X from the command line?
[05:59] <navarone> I was scared
[05:59] <bur[n] er> navarone: as in Norton Ghost?
[05:59] <DaOne> ok i'm getting a couple of suggestions...  i'm in ubuntu live cd at the moment because i planned to use dd.  but i cannot seem to get ubuntu to recognise the drives
[05:59] <crouton> dpkg-reconfigure 'pkg'
[05:59] <darkgamer20> bur[n] er, hmm maybe i gotta install hpijs too
[05:59] <gigamonkey> (And is it likely that the update could have done this to me?)
[05:59] <navarone> It's a twin of Nortons
[05:59] <bur[n] er> darkgamer20: possibly?
[06:00] <logical_mark> nekostar: thanks for all the help
[06:00] <yaoming> hi all, is there anybody knows which package contains a tool to add applications program?
[06:00] <ro^fflex> i've got a question.
[06:00] <DaOne> and on top of that i dont know how 2 use dd :S
[06:00] <bur[n] er> navarone: use g4l before?  how easy is it to backup to a network location?
[06:00] <darkgamer20> bur[n] er, nope install already
[06:00] <roostercogburn> hey can anybody help me with some sound probs
[06:01] <darkgamer20> bur[n] er, actually i use the hpijs driver too
[06:01] <The_Isle_of_Mark> DaOne, sudo apt-get install partimage
[06:01] <crouton> DaOne - 'dd if=/input/path of=/output/path' or do 'man dd'
[06:01] <roostercogburn> ??
[06:02] <DaOne> The_Isle_of_Mark: i tried that but it says it cannot find the package
[06:02] <navarone> bur[n] er, They say it can be used to backup to remote location...but I have not used it as of yet. I have iso and I am waiting for time to reduce windows partition,reinstall and then image partition for backup
[06:02] <ro^fflex> when i throw my box in to hibernation mode, x11 is killed, and or my raw tty goes to a screen with a bunch of kernel messages.. usually just saying that my wireless interface goes back online, and that my framebuffer is getting turned back on... but is there a way to get back in to X11, or back in to my raw tty?
[06:02] <navarone> freshmeat.net/projects/g4l/
[06:02] <logical_mark> nekostar: how do I get MPlayer to work with w32codecs?
[06:02] <nekostar> np logical_mark
[06:02] <nekostar> mplayer?
[06:02] <nekostar> oi
[06:02] <nekostar> thats a bit harder
[06:02] <nekostar> for that let me refer you to ubuntuforums.org
[06:02] <The_Isle_of_Mark> nekostar not hard
[06:02] <ro^fflex> think anyone could help?
[06:02] <nekostar> they have a few dam good how-to's
[06:03] <nekostar> or ask The_Isle_of_Mark there  :P
[06:03] <nekostar> dunno ro^fflex
[06:03] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, do this
[06:03] <logical_mark> Isle_of_Mark: How do I do it?
[06:03] <logical_mark> Isle_of_Mark: * listinging
[06:03] <nekostar> LOL
[06:03] <darkgamer20> bur[n] er, nope i restarted cups but nothing happens.
[06:03] <yaoming> where can i find the HOW-TO for ubuntu 5.10?
[06:03] <nekostar> that was classic :P
[06:03] <ro^fflex> idiots
[06:03] <darkgamer20> Madpilot, do you know anything about this?
[06:04] <nekostar> o rite
[06:04] <nekostar> lol
[06:04] <DaOne> crouton: i would try that but i dont know what the input & output paths are.  :(  i dont know how 2 get ubuntu to recognise the drives.  one of them has a ubuntu installation & the other is fresh.  so i cannot use winmac_fstab
[06:04] <darkgamer20> man this printer setup crap is really frustrating
[06:04] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins
[06:04] <yaoming> where can i find the HOW-TOs for ubuntu 5.10?
[06:04] <nekostar> yaoming, what how to's
[06:04] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-lame
[06:04] <nekostar> ubuntuforums.org has lots :)
[06:04] <Madpilot> darkgamer20: sorry, no... my printer "just worked"...
[06:04] <darkgamer20> man...
[06:04] <The_Isle_of_Mark> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg
[06:04] <crouton> yaoming: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=100&order=desc is a good place to start
[06:05] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[06:05] <nekostar> yeah what crouton said ^_^
[06:05] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, sudo apt-get install libdivx4linux
[06:05] <yaoming> thanks crouton and nekostar
[06:05] <crouton> sure
[06:05] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, sudo apt-get install lame
[06:05] <Madpilot> darkgamer20: there are good cups howtos on linuxprinting.org, if that helps...
[06:05] <owner989> mplayer is a much better media player than totem
[06:05] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, sudo apt-get install sox
[06:05] <owner989> totem is unstable for me
[06:05] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, sudo apt-get install ffmpeg
[06:06] <The_Isle_of_Mark> sudo apt-get install mjpegtools
[06:06] <DaOne> dd sounds like the best way to go but i dont know how 2 use it.  i dont know what the paths for my HDDs are because i dont know how 2 get ubuntu to recognise them.
[06:06] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, sudo apt-get install vorbis-tools
[06:06] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[06:06] <crouton> DaOne - IDE SATA or SCSI drives?
[06:06] <levander> if i have a usb keyboard and mouse, does the 'hotplug system' control them?
[06:06] <logical_mark> Isle_of_Mark: DAMN This is a lot! LOL
[06:06] <darkgamer20> Madpilot, thanks i look around
[06:07] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, I like having alll the codecs
[06:07] <DaOne> crouton: both drives are IDE
[06:07] <crouton> DaOne - and you're running the LiveCD, or what exactly?
[06:07] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, sudo apt-get install mplayer-386
[06:07] <nekostar> of course yaoming
[06:07] <nekostar> :)
[06:07] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, sudo apt-get install mplayer-fonts
[06:07] <DaOne> crouton: i'm using the Hoary LiveCD
[06:07] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, that is all
[06:07] <typpo> isle_of_mark: I have all those codecs installed, but .wmv files play completely blurred, all the colors are just dragged across
[06:07] <crouton> DaOne - so have you actually installed anything to any of the drives
[06:08] <typpo> is that a codec issue?
[06:08] <pepsi> what is Bazaar?
[06:08] <The_Isle_of_Mark> typpo, yeah sounds like it
[06:08] <logical_mark> Isle_of_Mark: Awesome. Anything else?
[06:08] <DaOne> crouton: on one of the drives i have installed ubuntu, yes.
[06:08] <The_Isle_of_Mark> ubotu tell typpo about win32codecs
[06:08] <ubuntu> hi
[06:09] <ubuntu> is there a radio player for ubantu?
[06:09] <logical_mark> Isle_of_Mark: I still cannot get this to play in firefox! sudo apt-get install mplayer-fonts
[06:09] <navarone> Okay..i am off...take care peeps
[06:09] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, nope, unless you want the gui for mplayer...and why would you want that?
[06:09] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, just mplayer <filename>
[06:09] <crouton> DaOne - I'd browse www.ubuntuforums.org, somebody has to have asked a similar question
[06:09] <logical_mark> Isle_of_Mark: No I didnt mean to paste that. I meant to past this URL http://media.putfile.com/WizardsofWinter-SM
[06:09] <ubuntu> is there a radio player for ubantu?
[06:10] <logical_mark> Isle_of_Mark: I cant get that video to play
[06:10] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, mplayer --help gives you the keys for controling it
[06:10] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, what is the file extension?
[06:10] <crouton> DaOne - I know a way to do it using a separate CD and a program called Ranish, but not within the Ubuntu/Linux OS per se
[06:10] <logical_mark> Isle_of_Mark: wmv
[06:10] <The_Isle_of_Mark> hmm
[06:10] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, where can I find the file?
[06:11] <logical_mark> Its at that url http://media.putfile.com/WizardsofWinter-SM
[06:11] <DaOne> crouton: well im willing to use Ranish
[06:11] <logical_mark> Isle_of_Mark: thats the only place I know
[06:11] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, you want it to play in firefox?
[06:11] <DaOne> crouton: but i only have a dial-up connection so if ihave to DL stuff then it wouldnt be a good idea
[06:11] <crouton> DaOne: http://www.sysresccd.org/download.en.php, burn the ISO onto a CD, boot from that CD, and type 'ranish' at the bootprompt
[06:11] <thewayofzen> ok so i googled for how to get rid of kubuntu-desktop now i gotta figure out how so get rid of konquerer...
[06:11] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, or are you trying to play it from your hard drive?
[06:11] <mrproper> I have this problem where launchers in Gnome won't work anymore when I change the executable path to a direct path.
[06:12] <logical_mark> Isle_of_Mark: I want it to play in firefox
[06:12] <mrproper> I click and nothing happens.
[06:12] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, that is a different question....ok do this then
[06:12] <The_Isle_of_Mark> sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[06:13] <ispiked> why are evolution-data-server-1.4 and evolution-exchange-storage running if I don't even use evolution?
[06:13] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, back
[06:13] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, sudo gedit /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf
[06:13] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, that was wild i did a regular install and i never once set up root?
[06:13] <logical_mark> Isle_of_Mark: I think I have already done this
[06:14] <Mr_Milenko> dialup and linux.... a match made in hell..
[06:14] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[06:14] <insipid> Mr_Milenko, your not kidding
[06:14] <DaOne> crouton: thanks for your help.  i'll download that and see what i can do.  (it'll take me a couple of days...)
[06:14] <DaOne> bibi peeps & thnx 4 helping :D
[06:14] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid, no, you wont be, sudo everything that needs root and use your user password
[06:14] <Xenguy> I really want a good replacement for FTP, for non-anonymous uploads to my box.
[06:14] <Mr_Milenko> nah only way i can friggin connect is if i deactivate my network cards then connect..
[06:14] <bhuvan> a query on ubuntu .. how can i create a copy of bootable ubuntu linux cd 1 ?
[06:15] <Mr_Milenko> then reactivate when im connected to use my local network
[06:15] <Xenguy> Does 'rssh' or 'scponly' ring any bells for people here?
[06:15] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, i don't like that im going to have to go hit the manuals to set up root
[06:15] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, ok you have to setup firefox to allow it
[06:15] <Mr_Milenko> that or im fucking something up.. bad..
[06:15] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[06:15] <levander> anybody have an idea how to get around when the ubuntu boot process hangs on 'starting hotplug system...'?
[06:15] <logical_mark> Isle_of_Mark: No how do I do that?
[06:15] <nekostar> Xenguy, there is some nice stuff with ssh as i recall
[06:15] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid, it is easy just do a sudo passwd root
[06:15] <bhuvan> i've the CD, i've copied the content to my hard disk..
[06:15] <nekostar> or ssl
[06:15] <nekostar> yesh
[06:15] <nekostar> rssh
[06:15] <bhuvan> now, i wish to create the bootable CD from it ..
[06:16] <Xenguy> nekostar: nod - scponly looks respectable too
[06:16] <BotBuilder> levander - TO get around boot kinks i removed all uneccesary hardware and tried again
[06:16] <nekostar> o.O
[06:16] <nekostar> scpyeah
[06:16] <nekostar> thats the ticket
[06:16] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, what was that link again?
[06:16] <levander> BotBuilder: doesn't the hotplug system control all usb devices?
[06:16] <Xenguy> nekostar: what's wrong with it?
[06:16] <BotBuilder> levander - not sure
[06:16] <nekostar> wrong with it?
[06:17] <logical_mark> Isle_of_Mark: Right now mplayer loads and it gets all the way to where it says, in firefox, playing file.... but the file wont play. The URL is: http://media.putfile.com/WizardsofWinter-SM
[06:17] <BotBuilder> It might nadle stuff like hotplugging SATA
[06:17] <nekostar> nono its supposed to be dam good according to a few friends that are admins
[06:17] <Xenguy> nekostar: guess I'm not following your meaning
[06:17] <BotBuilder> dunno if its possible to hotplug pci
[06:17] <nekostar> [good admins] 
[06:17] <Xenguy> nekostar: OK
[06:17] <nekostar> ^_^
[06:17] <nekostar> sorry for being unclear
[06:17] <Mr_Milenko> mustard5 around?
[06:18] <Xenguy> nekostar: no worries - I'm just trying to get some feedback on these 2 software
[06:18] <Mr_Milenko> ubotu tell me about dialup
[06:18] <varsendagger> Xen guy do you run Xen?
[06:18] <varsendagger> Xenguy,
[06:18] <Mr_Milenko> ubotu, tell me about dialup
[06:18] <heatxsink>  anyone?
[06:19] <DShepherd> hey
[06:19] <zorba64> !dialup
[06:19] <ubotu> dialup is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DialupModemHowto
[06:19] <nekostar> lol Xenguy
[06:19] <Xenguy> hehe
[06:19] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, i guess i should get a k7 kernel?
[06:19] <Mr_Milenko> Xenguy, i cry every time i log in...
[06:20] <Xenguy> heh
[06:20] <richard> lol
[06:20] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, i guess it would be the most compatible and most optimized
[06:20] <The_Isle_of_Mark> Insipid yeah
[06:20] <logical_mark> Isle_of_Mark: Are you still looking into that for me?
[06:21] <logical_mark> The_Isle_of_Mark: Are you still looking into that for me?
[06:21] <angel_> is it possible to install KDE apps in GNOME?
[06:21] <dug52143> hello
[06:21] <crimsun> angel_: sure
[06:21] <willis_> angel_,  you can RUN kde and gnome apps  as ya want.. :P
[06:21] <richard> angel_ yes
[06:21] <Xenguy> varsendagger: no my nick came before Xen :-)
[06:22] <varsendagger> cool
[06:22] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, yes hang on one sec
[06:22] <angel_> crimsum, willis_,richard: Thanks :)
[06:22] <varsendagger> i have ubuntu and  edebian on another partition, how can i run these simutaniously?
[06:23] <Agrajag> simultaneously? Qemu or VMWare or Xen, I guess
[06:25] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, ok ready?
[06:25] <arachne42> Hiya!  Can anyone help me with a wpa_supplicant question?
[06:25] <zdennis> is iptables still the way to go for a personal linux firewall?
[06:25] <tag> I'm reading this instructions on making a debian package, and after installing all the packages referred to by the tutorial...deb-make doesn't exist.
[06:25] <logical_mark> The_Isle_of_Mark: YES!
[06:26] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, sudo mv /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[06:26] <The_Isle_of_Mark> oops
[06:26] <QMario> Is it possible to use a CD-RW the same way a Flash Drive is used?
[06:26] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark cd /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[06:26] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, sudo mv libtotem_mozilla.so libtotem_mozilla.so.old
[06:27] <logical_mark> The_Isle_of_Mark: Wait I got this error on that first command... "mv: missing file argument
[06:27] <logical_mark> "
[06:27] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, crosses the fingers
[06:27] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, check my last posts
[06:27] <Madpilot> QMario: I think k3b supports RW properly, ie w/ erase functions - not sure about gnomebaker
[06:27] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, sudo mv libtotem_mozilla.xpt libtotem_mozilla.xpt.old
[06:27] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, get all that?
[06:27] <ice9> I just installed dvdrip
[06:27] <mrproper> How can I get Ubuntu to add more resolutions to the resolution capplet?
[06:28] <ice9> but its relling me I'm missing alot of programs
[06:28] <ice9> but there installed ?
[06:28] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, ?
[06:28] <ice9> what am I doing wrong
[06:28] <willis_> ice9,  dvdrip is like a front end to all these other programs.
[06:28] <logical_mark> The_Isle_of_Mark: Getting errors on the "sudo mv libtotem_mozilla.so libtotem_mozilla.so.o"
[06:28] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, what errors?
[06:29] <logical_mark> /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins$ sudo mv libtotem_mozilla.xpt libtotem_mozilla.xpt.old
[06:29] <logical_mark> mv: cannot stat `libtotem_mozilla.xpt': No such file or directory
[06:29] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, anyway rename the libtotem files and restart firefox, it will play, mine plays it just fine
[06:30] <DShepherd> logical_mark: is that the name of the file?
[06:30] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, I have to run...sorry
[06:30] <logical_mark> The_Isle_of_Mark: Thanks for the help those far
[06:30] <logical_mark> Dshepard: could you finish where he left off?
[06:31] <varsendagger> anone use xen, i have a live disk but never been able to use it
[06:31] <owner989> what kind of file are you trying to play
[06:31] <DShepherd> logical_mark: are you sure that libtotem_mozilla.xpt is the name of the file?
[06:31] <ice9> anyone user dvdrip
[06:31] <ice9> use dvdrip
[06:32] <GTroy> !sources.list
[06:32] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:32] <linuxgeek2> hi
[06:32] <linuxgeek2> folks
[06:32] <linuxgeek2> Is there are way to change the colour of the screen while startup
[06:32] <logical_mark> Dshepard: No, he told me it was... I don't know what is going on. I am just trying to get MPlayer to play the video on this website: http://media.putfile.com/WizardsofWinter-SM
[06:32] <linuxgeek2> I get that brow screen
[06:32] <varsendagger> Agrajag, have you used any of these emulators?
[06:32] <lemur> amarok complains about not having kfmclient
[06:33] <Agrajag> only qemu and vmware
[06:33] <linuxgeek2> Is there are way to change the colour of the screen while startup
[06:33] <linuxgeek2> I get that brow screen
[06:33] <linuxgeek2> ?
[06:33] <varsendagger> how do they work, can i apt-get them?
[06:33] <cddesjar> is there a way to migrate from debian sid to ubuntu?
[06:33] <Agrajag> just qemu
[06:33] <QMario> Madpilot, I know about the erase functions, but I am wondering about just adding files as if it were a Flash drive, with formatting each time.
[06:33] <Agrajag> vmware is commercial software
[06:33] <QMario> s/with/withou
[06:33] <cddesjar> without reformatting cause my cdrom is broke
[06:33] <varsendagger> ahh
[06:33] <Agrajag> and xen is a ibt more complicated to set up, you need special kernels to run it
[06:34] <varsendagger> ohh i think i'll try qemu
[06:34] <poningru> !wifi
[06:34] <ubotu> methinks wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[06:34] <linuxgeek2> !human
[06:34] <ubotu> linuxgeek2: Do they come in packets of five?
[06:34] <linuxgeek2> !startup
[06:34] <ubotu> linuxgeek2: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[06:34] <www> HI
[06:34] <DShepherd> logical_mark: type all that again but instead of typing libtotem..... all at once type 'libt' and tab
[06:34] <linuxgeek2> !ubuntu
[06:34] <ubotu> methinks ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards
[06:34] <www> hwo are you
[06:34] <XiCillin> is the modem  device inubuntu usually /dev/ppp?
[06:34] <linuxgeek2> fine
[06:34] <DShepherd> logical_mark: do you know about tab autocomplete?
[06:35] <varsendagger> !samba
[06:35] <ubotu> rumour has it, samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[06:35] <Mr_Milenko> stop molesting the bot...
[06:35] <varsendagger> sorry
[06:35] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[06:35] <thewayofzen> When burning Cds in linux.. if i dont want the spaces replaced with  underscores do i CHECK joliet or UNCHECK it in gnomebaker i always forget...
[06:35] <varsendagger> i was explainging the bot to my wife
[06:35] <biscuit_> XiCillin: Its usually /dev/modem or /dev/ttSY0
[06:35] <BotBuilder> ooh yeah uboto that's how i like it
[06:35] <biscuit_> XiCillin: Depends on the "Windows" COM port.
[06:35] <logical_mark> Dshepard: No I do not, I do 'ls' in the plugins directory though and there is no file close to what he was talking about
[06:36] <XiCillin> biscuit isee
[06:36] <XiCillin> thanks
[06:36] <Agrajag> thewayofzen: turn joliet and rock ridge on
[06:36] <logical_mark> Dshepard: .                       mplayerplug-in-qt.so   mplayerplug-in-wmp.so
[06:36] <logical_mark> ..                      mplayerplug-in-qt.xpt  mplayerplug-in-wmp.xpt
[06:36] <logical_mark> libjavaplugin_oji.so    mplayerplug-in-rm.so   mplayerplug-in.xpt
[06:36] <logical_mark> mplayerplug-in-gmp.so   mplayerplug-in-rm.xpt  raclass.zip
[06:36] <logical_mark> mplayerplug-in-gmp.xpt  mplayerplug-in.so      rpnp.so
[06:36] <biscuit_> XiCillin: Anytime.
[06:36] <DShepherd> logical_mark: dont paste here
[06:37] <mcadory> logical_mark: pastebin
[06:37] <biscuit_> Woot. 100 fps in SuperTux.. Lol.
[06:37] <logical_mark> Dshepard: Sorry. pasebin from now on
[06:37] <ratero> The Spanish language lives!
[06:37] <DShepherd> logical_mark: well you dont seem to have any totem player library file
[06:38] <logical_mark> I dont have totem player installed
[06:38] <biscuit_> How do I get rid of something I compiled (IE WINE)
[06:38] <owner989> just delete it
[06:38] <varsendagger> biscuit !checkinstall
[06:39] <ratero> The Spanish language lives!
[06:39] <DShepherd> logical_mark: what are you trying to do?
[06:39] <akk> Do I remember that there's a channel somewhere for discussing installation issues?
[06:39] <biscuit_> Ok.. I got that covered.. Lol. Thanks.
[06:39] <biscuit_> How does ALSA handle multiple streams?
[06:39] <orangey> hey all!
[06:39] <owner989> not well biscuit i think
[06:40] <biscuit_> Hi
[06:40] <logical_mark> DShepherd: I have a website whos videos wont play in my Firefox browser. The site is: http://media.putfile.com/WizardsofWinter-SM
[06:40] <biscuit_> owner989: It won't at all. But I mean, how do you get it to?
[06:40] <ratero> The Spanish language lives!
[06:40] <owner989> i think using artsd can solve this issue
[06:40] <orangey> I'm trying to get my system to play DVDs with xine (shouldn't be THAT hard).. I installed libdvdcss and libdvdnav and libdvdread.. but xine still won't read.. any ideas?
[06:40] <owner989> instead of using alsa
[06:40] <owner989> but im not sure
[06:41] <owner989> linux has too many sound daemons i think
[06:41] <biscuit_> orangey: Does it spit anything out (errors) in normal running mode or in a terminal?
[06:41] <tonyyarusso> How can I make sure samba is running, and start it if it is not?
[06:41] <crimsun> biscuit_: it's a userspace library-layer plugin
[06:41] <crimsun> biscuit_: ("dmix")
[06:41] <orangey> biscuit: Something bout not being able to read.. moment.
[06:42] <logical_mark> DShepherd: I just installed Totem and totem-gstreamer, and now in Firefox Totem tells me it could not start the video output...
[06:42] <orangey> biscuit_: "Source Can't be read"
[06:42] <biscuit_> crimsun: Where do I find it at.. its not in the repos.
[06:42] <orangey> biscuit_: and something about dvdnav
[06:42] <biscuit_> crimsun: I remember reading about that.
[06:42] <linuxgeek2> !wallpapers
[06:42] <DShepherd> logical_mark: oh,  I have no clue..
[06:42] <owner989> logiccal did you install your video card drivers
[06:42] <ubotu> linuxgeek2: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[06:42] <masingerz> hello
[06:43] <biscuit_> orangey: Does it say somewhere like dvd:// When it tries to load, like in that one little bar thingey
[06:43] <orangey> I'm typing in xine dvd://mymovie.iso
[06:44] <biscuit_> Just one slash I think.
[06:44] <biscuit_> Depends I suppose.
[06:44] <owner989> mplayer is the best media player orangey
[06:44] <firefly2442> when networking computer to computer, is a crossover cable required or is a standard cable OK?
[06:44] <owner989> imho
[06:44] <B_166-ER-X> I installed Gdesklets shell,  runned sor desklets apps, it froze, i rebooted, and now the Desklets shell wont run , it just stall ..even after an reinstall...  someone could help ?
[06:44] <orangey> owner989: and how do I get dvdnav on that?
[06:44] <Muldy> firefly2442, crossover
[06:44] <firefly2442> Muldy, no way to do it with a regular cable?
[06:44] <Muldy> firefly2442, not really, no.
[06:44] <owner989> orangey, mplayer can play dvds
[06:45] <Muldy> firefly2442, you can get a crossover adapter for your regular cable
[06:45] <B_166-ER-X> please ?
[06:45] <orangey> owner989: from isos?
[06:45] <QMario> !CD-RW
[06:45] <ubotu> QMario: I haven't a clue
[06:45] <Muldy> or recrimp your cat5 so that it is a crossover
[06:45] <QMario> !gnomebaker
[06:45] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, QMario
[06:45] <QMario> !Botsnack
[06:45] <ubotu> :)
[06:45] <owner989> ive never tried  orangey
[06:45] <firefly2442> mkay, is there a difference in speed between crossover and regular?
[06:45] <owner989> with iso
[06:46] <owner989> but you could just mount it as a drive
[06:46] <ratero> The Spanish language lives!
[06:46] <Muldy> no
[06:46] <firefly2442> Cat5 can do gigabit right?
[06:46] <Muldy> cross over is just when the contacts are changed around
[06:46] <firefly2442> ahh I see
[06:46] <mcadory> no
[06:46] <Muldy> it can if its cat5e
[06:47] <Muldy> the only difference between cat5e and cat5 is whether the 4 contacts have been wired
[06:47] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, no luck
[06:47] <ratero> The Spanish language lives!
[06:47] <ratero> The Spanish language lives!
[06:47] <ratero> The Spanish language lives!
[06:47] <firefly2442> guess I'll just have to live 100mbit for now
[06:48] <firefly2442> wanted to test it out
[06:48] <firefly2442> oh well, thank you very much
[06:48] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, 1339 fps this absolutely rediculous ihave done everything....
[06:49] <z3d3> anyone here doing port forwarding on their box?
[06:50] <B_166-ER-X> what do i do with a .tar.bz2 file ?
[06:50] <biscuit_> Weee.. Halo is very .dll dependant indeed!
[06:50] <biscuit_> B_166-ER-X: Just extract it.
[06:50] <DShepherd> B_166-ER-X: anything you want to do with it
[06:50] <B_166-ER-X> sh ?
[06:51] <DShepherd> B_166-ER-X: tar
[06:51] <mcadory> B_166: tar xzf
[06:51] <biscuit_> B_166-ER-X: tar -x usually does the trick.
[06:51] <B_166-ER-X> ok
[06:51] <DShepherd> B_166-ER-X: tar xfj
[06:51] <B_166-ER-X> dang, ithink i will have to compile it after... i'll let it go.. for now.
[06:52] <B_166-ER-X> any1 uses gdesklets shell ?
[06:52] <jeff303> does anyone know where the firefox plugin directory is?
[06:52] <jeff303> can't find it
[06:53] <B_166-ER-X> http://mycroft.mozdev.org/download.html
[06:53] <crimsun> /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/
[06:54] <B_166-ER-X> oups, misunderstanding. ;)
[06:54] <jeff303> crimsun: thanks that was it
[06:54] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, brb
[06:56] <starscalling> eh
[06:56] <biscuit_> In glxgears is over 1000 fps ok?
[06:56] <Aegir> biscuit_: glxgears is not a benchmark
[06:57] <biscuit_> Aegir: Lol. I know. Im just trying to shoot the ballpark.
[06:57] <Aegir> biscuit_: :p
[06:57] <BlueEagle> biscuit_: Don't go shooting ballparks. They ain't done nothing wrong. ;D
[06:58] <biscuit_> Aegir: What do you get?
[06:58] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, alright yeah.. no lucky and no performance different after doing the nvidia-settings thing
[06:58] <biscuit_> Aegir: Can SuperTux be a benchmark?
[06:58] <Aegir> biscuit_: Don't really care, I'll have a look.
[06:58] <biscuit_> BlueEagle: :P
[06:59] <Aegir> biscuit_: If i need to brag, I just tell people that I have Xorg7, EXA and Composite working perfectly with Xcompmgr on my startup list for super-smooth, fast, sexy visuals.
[06:59] <Aegir> :b
[07:00] <Aegir> biscuit_: Nevermind then ;)
[07:00] <biscuit_> Aegir: Use words a 14 year old can use. Bleh.
[07:01] <masingerz> hello
[07:01] <ChAdWiCk> anyone know how to configure proftpd permissions (uplaod and download)
[07:02] <rob_p> biscuit_:  Just for reference, my Sony Vaio FS-550 runs about 1700 fps with glxgears.  It's got the Intel 800 chipset 128 MB (shared) video RAM.  Nothing too fancy.
[07:02] <rabeldable> proftpd has configuration directives similar to apache check out the proftpd website there are lots of examples
[07:03] <Aegir> biscuit_: Heh,my glxgears doesnt even give me a score. But it's smooth, I'll tell you that much. Mobility Radeon 9000 IGP, btw, one of the few cards that can actually do the more advanced xorg special effects bastardry
[07:03] <Muldy> ewww igp
[07:04] <Aegir> Muldy: I know, I was like that aswell before I got my dirty little hands on Xorg7
[07:04] <Shucknet> what are your recommendations on using ubuntu as a mail server?  I have to administer remotely over ssh
[07:04] <biscuit__> Yeargh. Juno on Linux won't work anymore.
[07:05] <Aegir> Muldy: It used to always be my Nvidia desktop that I did all the fancy xorg stuff on, now it's my ATI laptop again :D
[07:05] <owner989> is junu dialup
[07:05] <rob_p> Aegir:  Try this at the command prompt: "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"  That should dump fps to stdout...
[07:05] <biscuit__> owner989: Howd you know?
[07:05] <Aegir> rob_p: Heh, cheers.
[07:05] <owner989> ive heard of it
[07:05] <crouton> Shucknet: works perfectly fine, there's a couple guides on it.
[07:06] <Shucknet> what MTA does the base distro come with?
[07:06] <crouton> juno?  didn't that get merged into netzero?
[07:06] <Shucknet> crouton: and do you know if there's a Horde package for it?
[07:06] <Aegir> Hoargh! Well! Would ya look at that! 530fps... Pfft. Like it matters...
[07:06] <owner989> dialup should work in any os unless it uses proprietary software
[07:06] <crouton> horde? don't know.
[07:06] <onkarshinde> rob_p: what FPS is considered good?
[07:06] <rob_p> onkarshinde:  It's a relative measurement.
[07:07] <jeff303> where did gedit go in the gnome menu, in Breezy?  used to be accessories/text editor
[07:07] <nicholas> hey funky ppl !
[07:07] <nicholas> http://research.lumeta.com/ches/map/gallery/isp-ss.gif
[07:07] <biscuit__> owner989: Juno's an oddball, it doesn't use PAP, nor CHAP, but some CHAP MD5
[07:07] <biscuit__> SO it kicks itself off every hour.
[07:07] <nicholas> where is the schmong to know more bout nslookuo ?
[07:07] <onkarshinde> jeff303: It is still there
[07:07] <rob_p> onkarshinde:  Basically only has meaning if you baselined with it and then made changes and wanted to see the relative improvement, etc.
[07:08] <poningru> Hi can someone test something for me?
[07:08] <biscuit__> How do I tell if I have JAVA installed?
[07:08] <onkarshinde> rob_p: Ok. Thanks
[07:08] <poningru> can you install wifi-radar
[07:08] <poningru> through synaptic
[07:08] <poningru> and go see if there is a wifi.conf in /etc
[07:08] <onkarshinde> biscuit_: If it is basic install then you don't have java
[07:08] <nicholas> get on up!
[07:08] <poningru> did anyone get my last msg?
[07:09] <rabeldable> nicholas: what is "not an isp"?
[07:09] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, hey let me know when you get back
[07:09] <biscuit__> onkarshide: So I just go on Good ol Sun and get it?
[07:09] <onkarshinde> poningru: We read it.
[07:09] <nicholas> interseting rhytm devices.,,,
[07:09] <onkarshinde> !tell biscuit_ about java
[07:09] <nicholas> l0v3
[07:09] <jeff303> onkarshinde: ok not showing up in mine any more for some reason... I probably messed up something during the upgrade
[07:10] <onkarshinde> !tell biscuit__ about java
[07:10] <onkarshinde> jeff303: Not a chance, gedit will be installed by default. See if you can find it in Menu Editor, may be the menu item is disabled
[07:10] <biscuit__> !javadebs
[07:10] <ubotu> from memory, javadebs is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[07:11] <Maniqui> hihi
[07:12] <Maniqui> I have installed few games, but I dont know how (from where) I run them
[07:12] <Maniqui> they are not under applications -> games
[07:12] <themuffenmann> Mai
[07:12] <themuffenmann> Mani*
[07:12] <onkarshinde> Maniqui: which games?
[07:12] <themuffenmann> did you install via synpatic?
[07:12] <Maniqui> enigma, dopewars, beneath-a-steel-sky
[07:12] <themuffenmann> synaptic*
[07:12] <Maniqui> I installed them using synaptic
[07:12] <themuffenmann> open a terminal
[07:12] <themuffenmann> and type the name of the game
[07:12] <Maniqui> yes
[07:13] <Maniqui> that simple?
[07:13] <themuffenmann> yep
[07:13] <jeff303> onkarshinde: ok I'm sure you're right.. still no dice after unchecking/rechecking
[07:13] <jeff303> onkarshinde: no big deal I can just do a custom application launcher... still weird though
[07:13] <Maniqui> bash: enigma: command not found
[07:13] <onkarshinde> Maniqui: or better, press Alt+F2 and then typr command to run the game
[07:14] <Maniqui> thanks! the trick with Alt + F2 did work
[07:14] <onkarshinde> Has anyone successfully installed Google Earth using wine
[07:14] <owner989> we need to bug google to release a linux version
[07:14] <Aegir> onkarshinde: My last experiance was that it installed, but was rather shoddy.
[07:14] <Maniqui> beneath-a-steel-sky use scummvm, so I run ScummVM, but I dont know where to browse to load the games
[07:15] <Maniqui> where are apps (games, multimedia players, etc) installed on Ubuntu?
[07:15] <Maniqui> I mean, in wich folder?
[07:15] <onkarshinde> Aegir: Did you do any special tweaks? It is not installing at all on my machine
[07:15] <biscuit__> Aegir: Wouldn't it work better in Cedega, just because of it's using 3d stuff?
[07:15] <cast> Maniqui: uh, lots of places. generally in /usr but it depends on the app
[07:16] <cast> Maniqui: echo $PATH will tell you some places to look for binaries
[07:16] <Maniqui> thanks, cast.
[07:16] <Aegir> biscuit_, Probably. I detest Cedega, however.
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> diddly dang it.. isent there a rc file for  local commands. to run at boot time.. im looking in /etc/ and cant seem to find it.. rc.local ?
[07:16] <Aegir> onkarshinde: Not really. It was a while ago aswell
[07:16] <biscuit__> Aegir: Why?
[07:17] <biscuit__> onkarshinde: What's it spitting out in the term?
[07:17] <Aegir> biscuit__, illogical reasons. I just don't like Cedega.
[07:17] <onkarshinde> biscuit__: What are you asking about?
[07:17] <biscuit__> Aegir: Oh ok. What about WINE with DX
[07:17] <drummer87> hi all, i've just got an old ethernet switch and am trying to connect to it through telnet but can't... the default IP is 0.0.0.0 but when i pint this, ping says "pinging 0.0.0.0 (127.0.0.1)" which is localhost.... any ideas please?
[07:17] <biscuit__> Hey.. why couldn't you do that. Install DX on WINE.
[07:18] <biscuit__> onkarshinde: When you try to install GEarth, what does it say
[07:18] <Aegir> biscuit__ because it comes WITH wine. Only recently has DX9 been built in.
[07:18] <onkarshinde> biscuit__: The installation starts and halts at a particular point and then hangs
[07:18] <Aegir> biscuit__ but still, I don't know. I haven't toyed with Google Earth in quite a while
[07:19] <Aegir> biscuit__ I use wine for exactly two programs, and that's it.
[07:20] <biscuit__> Aegir: Does WINE autodetect COM ports?
[07:20] <onkarshinde> biscuit__: Any idea? Also it gave me error that some psapi.dll was not found
[07:20] <lemur> I isntalled apache2 and can connect to localhost, but it appears not to listen for outside connections.  I don't know how to change it
[07:20] <Aegir> biscuit__ Don't know
[07:21] <onkarshinde> lemur: And how are you testing outside connections?
[07:21] <lemur> onkarshinde: using my domain name
[07:21] <biscuit__> onkarshinde: You need to put that .dll in the system32 folder.
[07:21] <biscuit__> That would be my only guess.
[07:21] <onkarshinde> biscuit__: trying.
[07:22] <rabeldable> drummer87: do you have a console port on your switch?
[07:22] <onkarshinde> lemur: See if you can find anything in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[07:22] <drummer87> rabeldable, yes.. but don't have a com cable
[07:23] <lemur> onkarshinde: yes, I'm looking at it...it's kind of hard for me to understand; nothing jumps out
[07:23] <rabeldable> drummer87: is there a reset button on the switch?
[07:23] <rabeldable> drummer87: what kind of switch is it?
[07:24] <lemur> oh, I bet I know what it is!
[07:24] <Aegir> drummer87: For the most part, you cannot telnet to an ordinary switch, being a layer 2 device, but with more advanced switchs, for instance Cisco ones, they have a console port on the back, you then use hyper terminal and a rollover (Not crossover) to connect to it and alter the settings, for instance, enable telnet connections. Your switch though might not allow telnet connections at all. What brand is it?
[07:24] <lemur> my IP on the subnet..
[07:24] <onkarshinde> I will be back
[07:25] <drummer87> rabeldable, it's a notel baystack 350-24T.. not sure where the reset switch is though
[07:25] <Aegir> Ahh
[07:25] <drummer87> found a pdf manual, and says telnet is enabled by default, but maybe it has been since disabled
[07:26] <Aegir> drummer87: Yeah, is the switch seccond hand? The last owner might have disabled it.
[07:26] <mrkoje> Aeigir: What are you talking about rollover... are you meaning a serial cable?
[07:26] <mrkoje> Aeigir: There are CAT5 cables... Patch and Crossover
[07:26] <ramza3> is there a way to move the taskbar thing from the top to the bottom to where it has been on most OSs for the last 20 years
[07:27] <mrkoje> Ramza3:  Click on it and drag it to the bottom
[07:27] <ramza3> oops
[07:27] <ramza3> duh
[07:27] <rob1> does Ubuntu support and play ogg music files out of the box?
[07:27] <Aegir> mrkoje: yeah, it has an rj45 lead on one end, and a db9 connector on the other. You connect it from the com port of your computer to the console port of the switch/router, using HyperTerminal from there. Some other devices might have their console port as somthing else than a network plug, but all the ones I've seen have been.
[07:27] <lemur> weird
[07:27] <drummer87> i also tried 192.168.100.1 in telnet but connection was refused.. that could be the switch since i don't have anything in the 100 range in my home network
[07:28] <orangey> hmm.
[07:28] <rabeldable> there is a rollover cable and it is different than a crossover cable
[07:28] <orangey> any ideas as to where I could find a comprehensive guide on playing encrypted DVDs?
[07:28] <drummer87> Aegir, yes it is second hand
[07:28] <darkgamer20> is there a guide to compiling the spca5xx driver on ubuntu?
[07:28] <Aegir> Yeah, and a rollover is not an ethernet lead. A crossover only flips the send and receive pairs, a rollover flips all the pairs on one end
[07:29] <Aegir> drummer87: Yeah, even if you can get into it's console port, it'd be password protected. Have fun :)
[07:29] <rabeldable> drummer87:  it might not allow connections on port 23 you need to connect to it using a serial cable
[07:29] <mrkoje> Aegir: Wierd... never heard of that. When I went through the cisco classes we just used connect with a serial cable to get to the cisco ios
[07:29] <rabeldable> mrkoje: was it a blue or black cable?
[07:30] <rabeldable> mrkoje: it was a thin flat cable right?
[07:30] <mrkoje> Aeigir: rabeldable: It was a standard serial cable
[07:30] <Aegir> mrkoje: How long ago was that? I'm doing my CCNA now, and when dealing with most modern routers and the 2900 series switches (1900's too, but they are evil), you use a rollover cable to the console port. Routers have the console port on the front, switches are hidden on the back.
[07:30] <mrkoje> Aegir: this was in 96
[07:30] <Aegir> mrkoje: Yeah, that's a while back
[07:30] <mrkoje> Aegir: actually it was 97-98
[07:30] <sethk> mrkoje, with the ciscos you could set a password (three passwords, actually) and depending on how you set them, you might not be able to get in
[07:31] <rabeldable> i've been doing this for 10 years and there have always been rollover & crossover cables
[07:31] <sethk> mrkoje, although you could reset to factory state and start from scratch
[07:31] <toresbe> yeah, ISTR all Cisco cables being rollover.
[07:31] <mrkoje> Aegir, sethk, rabeldable: I actually haven't messed with Cisco stuff for a while, I am not sure what the standards are like
[07:31] <rabeldable> drummer87: have you been looking on the net for documentation
[07:31] <sethk> rabeldable, that's quite true.  a lot of the newest hardware can automatically compensate for the cable
[07:31] <toresbe> Most console ports are wired DTE, so you could easily hook it up to a modem
[07:31] <sethk> rabeldable, avoiding the need for crossover cables, but not all equipment does it obviously
[07:32] <Aegir> mrkoje: Yeah, I'm doing CCNA2 at the moment, actually finnishing it up in a week or two. Doing the entirity of CCNA over two years at school. Fun stuff :), aiming for the certification at the end of it.
[07:33] <mrkoje> Aegir: Thats great! I actually only did the CCNA1 and that was in highschool. I am a CS major/math minor right now
[07:33] <mrkoje> Aegir: and I love it.
[07:33] <Mulder> YAY! math :D
[07:33] <meefer> What can I run on my x86 Mac box?
[07:33] <pbransford> Hey! tor users are banned from #ubuntu :|
[07:34] <drummer87> rabeldable, yes.. and found some, but i haven't studied networking, so aren't familiar with some of the terminology and such.
[07:34] <Mulder> meefer, mac os x
[07:34] <pbransford> thats not fair :(
[07:34] <crimsun> pbransford: too much abuse.
[07:34] <Aegir> mrkoje: Cool. I'm doing a traineeship in data communications, structured cabling, over the two years aswell. So I'll leave highschool with two certs and a cablers license.
[07:34] <hydroksyde> meefer, possibly other x86 OSes too
[07:34] <pbransford> crimsun, aw crap. what about making them mute?
[07:34] <Mulder> meefer, what kind tpm are they using
[07:34] <paladinew> hello everyone
[07:34] <rabeldable> drummer87: have you been here: http://www130.nortelnetworks.com/cgi-bin/eserv/cs/main.jsp?level=1&category=8&subcategory=&subtype=&tranProduct=8122&resetFilter=1&pfTypeList=alpha&level1List=1&productList=8122&contentTypeList=8
[07:34] <crimsun> pbransford: ...that would defeat the purpose of getting help, no?
[07:34] <mrkoje> Aegir; thats cool
[07:35] <paladinew> I have a question, what program should I use to sniff IM packets on my network ???
[07:35] <crimsun> paladinew: ethereal
[07:35] <sethk> paladinew, I use ethereal for all types of packet sniffing
[07:35] <Aegir> mrkoje: Yeah, it's been a prick to get the whole thing working though. Some staff at my school didn't want me to do it.
[07:35] <paladinew> I havent had much luck with etheral
[07:35] <sethk> paladinew, it's thebest and also the easiest, so I would stick with it.
[07:36] <sethk> paladinew, the other tools are considerably harder to use
[07:36] <crimsun> paladinew: then use tcpdump directly
[07:36] <paladinew> aim traffic would be tcp packets correct?  I've tested it and it doesnt seem to show up
[07:36] <Aegir> mrkoje: Going to either go get a job at an ISP when I leave highschool, or go for my diploma in IT and then move onto CS at Uni.
[07:36] <pbransford> crimsun, there was a channel that made tor people ask for permission to speak somehow
[07:36] <poacheR> hi, I'm new to ubuntu; quick question, what's the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu with kde? (alternatively, doesn't ubuntu come with kde on the cd?)
[07:36] <pbransford> crimsun, nevermind, just kinda irritating thats all
[07:37] <paladinew> crimsun: is tcpdump a separate app, or add-in for ethereal?
[07:37] <Mulder> separate app
[07:37] <Mulder> tcpdump was around long long before ethereal
[07:37] <paladinew> can I add it under "add applications" ?
[07:37] <mrkoje> Aegir: Go for a CS degree... or maybe even a CIF degree.. but go for your degree.
[07:37] <drummer87> rabeldable, thanks.. think so, but will see if there's other files i missed that will help
[07:37] <pbransford> paladinew, seperate app. been around longer than ethereal
[07:38] <biscuit__> Wait till the day we have frozen bubble lan parties.
[07:38] <biscuit__> Heh
[07:38] <pbransford> biscuit__, wee?
[07:38] <poacheR> lol
[07:38] <masingerz> hello
[07:38] <biscuit__> Wee indeed.
[07:38] <tonyyarusso> I've heard of the existence of apps that will transparently burn audio CDs directly from mp3 files; anyone know which those are?
[07:38] <paladinew> so where should I dl tcpdump
[07:38] <hydroksyde> poacheR: I don't know for sure, but I'd say Kubuntu has better integration, and uses KDE by default
[07:39] <poacheR> I suppose, but does ubuntu come with KDE on the cd if you know?
[07:39] <hydroksyde> I think it doesw
[07:39] <hydroksyde> s/doesw/does/
[07:39] <onkarshinde> tonyyarusso: Perhaps Serpentine does this. Not sure though. May be you can try gnomebaker
[07:39] <poacheR> is Kubuntu EXACTLY the same as ubuntu otherwise, or is it lagging behind or sth in any way
[07:39] <tag> ugggggh
[07:40] <biscuit__> Could you mod Frozen Bubble?
[07:40] <tag> java in ubuntu?
[07:40] <poacheR> (I'm assuming it's otherwise the same project?)
[07:40] <onkarshinde> poacheR: Exactly same as Ubuntu but with KDE
[07:40] <hydroksyde> poacheR, : I'd say the config tools are rewritten for Qt
[07:40] <onkarshinde> !tell tag about java
[07:40] <poacheR> cool, thx :)
[07:41] <tag> !javadebs
[07:41] <ubotu> methinks javadebs is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[07:41] <pbransford> biscuit__, more than likely, the code is available. Would you _want_ to?
[07:41] <biscuit__> pbransford: I wanna make like a 4 player version of it. Lol. Whoever gets the most balls first wins.
[07:41] <paladinew> better yet, can someone explain how I can setup ethereal to only sniff AIM traffic?
[07:41] <biscuit__> Kinda like a mini lan party.
[07:41] <biscuit__> Lol
[07:41] <owner989> paladinew lol
[07:42] <rob_p> paladinew:  Open a shell, type, "sudo apt-get install tcpdump" and it'll be installed within a few moments.  It's a command line packet sniffer so if you're looking for something, "point-n-click", tcpdump probably isn't for you.  In that case, use ethereal.
[07:42] <rabeldable> drummer87: the documentation says that you can connect to the COM port using a straight through DB-9 with a straight through standard serial port cable
[07:42] <biscuit__> pbransford: Only problem, I only know PHP :( and limited C/C++
[07:43] <pbransford> paladinew, lol! done it... quite fun, but you have to be on a non-switched network... otherwise the switch doesn't send you the other people's traffic
[07:43] <owner989> in ethereal just create a filter with some of the aim headers
[07:43] <paladinew> I'm on a non-switched netowrk, so thats fine
[07:43] <pbransford> paladinew, you could to ARP poisoning, but thats evil and quite involved
[07:43] <Mulder> who sitll uses non switched networks these days
[07:43] <pbransford> paladinew, build a filter...
[07:43] <hydroksyde> Mulder: I do
[07:43] <pbransford> the best is a wifi card with monitor mode :P
[07:43] <Mulder> hydroksyde, why? heh
[07:44] <pbransford> doesn't even have to be the same network and you can listen in
[07:44] <hydroksyde> Mulder: Can't be bothered buying a switch
[07:44] <drummer87> rabeldable, just db9 to db9 - switch to computer? i don't have a cable though
[07:44] <Mulder> switches are dirt cheap though
[07:44] <drummer87> i could make one, but don't have the parts
[07:44] <Aegir> And WAN uplink!
[07:44] <rabeldable> drummer87: yeah you need to get a serial cable...
[07:45] <masingerz> pix too
[07:45] <Aegir> Although I cannot seem to get console access to it. Gotta figure that one out at some point. Bloody DLink crap. I wanted a Linksys WRT54G, the one that runs Linux...
[07:45] <hydroksyde> Mulder: Yeah, but I have a 10Mbit 8-port hub, and I only use it for 256Kbit internet (rarely ever PC to PC). Why would I wanna change?
[07:45] <Mulder> hydroksyde, security?
[07:45] <tag> sweet
[07:45] <Mulder> stops sniffing :P
[07:45] <onkarshinde> Mulder: I thought Mulder was a fictional non existent surname when I used to watch X-Files
[07:45] <pbransford> freaking broadcom makes me use windows drivers. no monitor mode for me :(  (actually, probably a GOOD thing hehe)
[07:46] <rabeldable> drummer87: its good to have one anyways... after you get the cable look up information on building your own cables with RJ45 DB-9 & RJ45 DB-25 connectors, you can easily change the pinouts to connect to anything
[07:46] <hydroksyde> Mulder, This network is trusted, The wireless network is separate
[07:46] <Mulder> ok, i have nothing to add
[07:47] <hydroksyde> and the only other person on it is trustworthy, not to mention not bright enough to use a sniffer
[07:47] <masingerz> hey does anybody know how to get rid of the static while hearing mp3's on rythmbox?
[07:47] <hydroksyde> masingerz, depends what's causing the static
[07:47] <pbransford> hydroksyde, its the OTHER people you worry about. the ones with airsnort etc
[07:47] <poningru> anyone know how to make my wireless card from ra0 to eth1?
[07:47] <poningru> cause wifi-radar will not check ra0
[07:47] <pbransford> ra0? mines wlan0
[07:47] <Mulder> hydroksyde, are they silly enough to get their computer infected with trojans/worms/spyware that might take advantage of such though?
[07:48] <biscuit__> poningru ln /dev/etc1 /dev/ra0
[07:48] <hydroksyde> Mulder: Good point
[07:48] <poningru> ok thanks dude
[07:48] <masingerz> well... the static only happens when thees something playing
[07:48] <pbransford> Mulder, most spyware/worms are mass-attackers, not likely hand tailored to a specific network type
[07:48] <biscuit__> poningru: Though, you gotta make some rule or somthing or else you have to do it again on each boot.
[07:48] <poningru> perhaps I should make it /dev/wlan0
[07:48] <masingerz> and it sounds like pindrops
[07:48] <poningru> ok thanks dude
[07:48] <poningru> biscuit__: would a cron job do it?
[07:49] <Mulder> pbransford, still, i'd personally not run the risk
[07:49] <biscuit__> poningru: Your talking to the wrong guy for that.
[07:49] <sellsw> mike: are you there
[07:49] <hydroksyde> Mulder: I still secure my own PC...
[07:49] <sellsw> tritium: are you there, sorry
[07:49] <poningru> biscuit__: wait why would it disapear after reboot?
[07:49] <masingerz> what is making the static...good question
[07:49] <poningru> the symlink I mean
[07:49] <Mulder> hydroksyde, that's good to hear
[07:49] <biscuit__> poningru: Im not entirely sure.
[07:50] <poningru> hmm ok thanks dude
[07:50] <Mulder> hydroksyde, you should attempt to secure your trusted user's pc too to mitigate any hazard
[07:50] <pbransford> Mulder, i just make sure anything sensetive needs a good PW to get in, and goes encrypted (like tor)
[07:50] <pbransford> poningru, /dev is a dynamic filesystem created by the kernel.
[07:50] <pbransford> Mulder, or just trust no-one :)
[07:50] <rabeldable> poningru: have you looked at the /etc/iftab file?
[07:50] <sellsw> I am using my ibook and a chat program I downloaded. It works pretty good
[07:51] <poningru> no I have not
[07:51] <rabeldable> poningru: there you can change the mapping of eth or whatever to point to a specific MAC address
[07:51] <poningru> ok thanks
[07:51] <Corrupter> does anyone know anything about running Bryce 5.5 in Wine?
[07:51] <salvador> hi
[07:51] <salvador> i need help
[07:51] <Mulder> pbransford, sure but if i recall correctly ssh had a weakness with the way it transmitted passwords (thouh encrypted) over the network a few years back. you cant discount those sorts of things popping up, not to mention potential for mitm attacks
[07:51] <regeya> that remains to be seen
[07:51] <salvador> can somebody help me?
[07:51] <regeya> !ask
[07:52] <regeya> ubotu: tell salvador about ask
[07:52] <rabeldable> poningru: only reason I know that works is because I changed my wireless from eth1 to eth0 there
[07:52] <drummer87> rabeldable, if making a serial cable, would i just wire the connectors pin to pin (ie. pin1 to pin1, pin3 to pin3)?
[07:52] <poningru> hmm ic ok thanks
[07:53] <tymanthius> Evening
[07:53] <salvador> when i right click my Trash on the right bottom and click Empty Trash notigh happens can anibody help me or know wats the problem
[07:53] <onkarshinde> salvador: state your problem
[07:53] <masingerz> hey u know my grandpa was called Lino
[07:53] <rabeldable> drummer87: you need three things.  1 straight through (regular) ethernet cable, 2 DB-9 (straight through)
[07:53] <tymanthius> Just finished installing ubuntu after playing w/ the live cd for a bit.
[07:53] <BotBuilder> how can i find out what processes are running and their ids?
[07:54] <poningru> BotBuilder: ps -aux
[07:54] <tymanthius> I like it, but during install I was never asked for a root password.
[07:54] <BotBuilder> thanks
[07:54] <Natdigga_> how can I find what's in the repository?  I'm looking to install JRE.
[07:54] <rabeldable> drummer87: straight through means just like you said, pin1 -> pin1 ...etc...
[07:54] <tymanthius> Where would I find one?
[07:54] <HappyFool> !tell tymanthius about root
[07:54] <poningru> I had a question
[07:54] <poningru> if I unplug the card
[07:55] <salvador> I installed the ubuntu CD and when i right click my Trash on the right bottom and click Empty Trash notigh happens can anibody help me or know wats the problem
[07:55] <poningru> and plug it back in it doesnt autodetect
[07:55] <Corrupter> what other programs are good for running Windows programs besides Wine?
[07:55] <rabeldable> drummer87: the DB-9 connectors should be RJ45 DB-9 connectors
[07:55] <poningru> guess I have to restart
[07:55] <tymanthius> Thanks Happy.  Used to Mandrake/Mandriva.  :)
[07:55] <poningru> Corrupter: it sometimes does that
[07:55] <rabeldable> poningru: don't restart
[07:55] <onkarshinde> Cedega (padi app) for games specially
[07:55] <poningru> rabeldable: then?
[07:55] <Corrupter> poningru: huh?
[07:55] <biscuit__> whats a good first person shooter in the repos?
[07:56] <rabeldable> poningru: you need to change a few things first
[07:56] <poningru> Corrupter: try going into trash and select all and delete it
[07:56] <poningru> rabeldable: listening
[07:56] <salvador> when i right click my Trash on the right bottom and click Empty Trash notigh happens can anibody help me or knows wats the problem
[07:56] <Corrupter> poningru: what are you talking about?
[07:56] <pbransford> Weeeeee. Just thought you all should know that.
[07:56] <poningru> Corrupter: sorry
[07:56] <poningru> salvador: my comments toward Corrupter were meant for you
[07:56] <onkarshinde> salvador: and what do you expect it to do? Show a dialog?
[07:56] <salvador> does anibodu knows whats wrong?
[07:56] <poningru> onkarshinde: he is saying that it is not deleting the trashed items
[07:57] <salvador> yeap
[07:57] <salvador> thats right
[07:57] <Corrupter> what other programs are good for running Windows programs besides Wine?
[07:57] <rabeldable> poningru: you could change the ip information in the /etc/network/interfaces file then do an ifdown and ifup to "disable and enable" the interface
[07:57] <salvador> it doesn delete anything
[07:57] <onkarshinde> Corrupter: didn't you read my reply about Cedega?
[07:57] <poningru> rabeldable: hmm let me try
[07:57] <Corrupter> onkarshinde: didn't see it
[07:57] <tymanthius> Going to go look around at things now.  Thanks.  :)
[07:58] <rabeldable> poningru: or you could reboot, but the system will not be on the net yet you need to modify the network properties for the interfaces still
[07:58] <poningru> right
[07:58] <salvador> can anibody help me?
[07:58] <salvador> or tell me whats wrong?
[07:58] <PokerFacePenguin> salvador: you dont _right_ click it to empty...
[07:59] <poningru> salvador: dude it has never worked for me either
[07:59] <salvador> so wat do I have to do to empty the trash
[07:59] <salvador> ?
[07:59] <salvador> never
[07:59] <PokerFacePenguin> _left_ click it
[07:59] <Natdigga_> What apt-get install do I run for Java Runtime?
[07:59] <poningru> just go into trash and select it all
[07:59] <poningru> and delete
[07:59] <poningru> select all == Ctrl+a
[08:00] <_tcc> I just want to say
[08:00] <_tcc> I got on ubuntu
[08:00] <_tcc> And its probably the best things i've ever been on
[08:00] <rabeldable> i gotta get some work done... msg me if you need something
[08:00] <PokerFacePenguin> i might have misspoke there...im in _U_buntu
[08:00] <poningru> rabeldable: ok thanks dude
[08:00] <salvador> it says that i dont have permision to delete something
[08:01] <salvador> Error while deleting.
[08:01] <nicholaspaul> HELP!! : ) I can't seem to fix broken packages in Synaptic - it says E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[08:01] <owner989> use sudo salvador
[08:01] <salvador> "/home/salv...console.Po" cannot be deleted because you do not have permissions to modify its parent folder.
[08:01] <poningru> salvador: you gotta delete from command line
[08:01] <poningru> goto command line
[08:01] <salvador> and with sudo how can i delet the trash?
[08:01] <JustinG> hey, i'm having problems getting my sound working and i've checked -everything-.
[08:01] <owner989> trashcan doesnt need sudo to delete
[08:01] <poningru> cd ~/.trash
[08:01] <poningru> sudo rm -r
[08:01] <i3dmaster> what's the module name for usb cdrom?
[08:01] <_tcc> How can I contribute to ubuntu?
[08:01] <poningru> err
[08:02] <poningru> sudo rm -r *
[08:02] <_tcc> I want to do some stuff.
[08:02] <owner989> justin, try killall esd in terminal
[08:02] <mrkoje> _tcc: spread the word
[08:02] <_tcc> I already did.
[08:02] <_tcc> I gave away my CD.
[08:02] <salvador> thats the command for deleting all the trash?
[08:02] <cast> _tcc: depends what you are good at? moneys always good :>
[08:02] <crimsun> _tcc: there's a participation page on the home page
[08:02] <_tcc> I can code perl.
[08:02] <nicholaspaul> _Tcc there might be some links on the site..   You can order more CDs !
[08:02] <owner989> the trash icon is in the bottom right hand corner salvador
[08:02] <salvador> i've just type that and that it?
[08:02] <nicholaspaul> Anyone know how to fix broken packages in synaptic????
[08:03] <poningru> _tcc: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate/
[08:03] <_tcc> Give them away free at school!
[08:03] <felipito> hellosss
[08:03] <nicholaspaul> hey felipito
[08:03] <mrkoje> _tcc: program device drivers then
[08:03] <poningru> salvador: in a command line
[08:03] <poningru> go into the trash folder
[08:03] <poningru> and then sudo rm -r *
[08:03] <PokerFacePenguin> _tcc: lol, install them at school first, then give them away
[08:03] <_tcc> hehe
[08:03] <nicholaspaul> _tcc - get some drivers for ppc wifi working - you' ll be loved by many!!!
[08:03] <JustinG> how can i get my ac97 codec sound working?
[08:04] <_tcc> heh
[08:04] <_tcc> Ubuntu is the best thing.
[08:04] <nicholaspaul> _tcc, including me!! :-)
[08:04] <nicholaspaul> i agree _tcc
[08:04] <varsendagger> _tcc, you can look into the bounty projects
[08:04] <salvador> wich is the trash route?
[08:04] <JustinG> my only gripe about ubuntu is my sound isn't working AT ALL
[08:04] <_tcc> really?
[08:04] <JustinG> yeah
[08:04] <owner989> justin did you try my suggestion
[08:04] <_tcc> My sound never worked on fedora SORE.
[08:04] <drummer87> rabeldable, hmm.. thanks, but i'm a little confused. should i make a cable with serial to serial, or serial to ethernet (rj45)? and how would i connect to the com port on the switch with the rj45 one?
[08:04] <JustinG> i didn't see it
[08:04] <varsendagger> they are so importan they are willing to pay for coders
[08:05] <owner989> type killall esd in terminal
[08:05] <_tcc> Now its blasting and awesome
[08:05] <varsendagger> python
[08:05] <JustinG> i see, lemme try
[08:05] <poningru> salvador: .Trash
[08:05] <salvador> let me try
[08:05] <salvador> thanks
[08:05] <JustinG> i'm using an intel-based chipset on my laptop.
[08:05] <Mulder> heh
[08:05] <owner989> ubuntu could have solved a lot of peoples sound problems if they had included alsaconf
[08:05] <PokerFacePenguin> varsendagger: founder has deep pockets
[08:05] <JustinG> ac97 codec.
[08:05] <Mulder> mozilla programmers must no know the meaning of 'free'
[08:06] <Mulder> firefox is using 105mb ram and it has nothing but google open
[08:06] <JustinG> alsaconf would be nice
[08:06] <nicholaspaul> Anyone know how to fix broken packages? ... are the repos down ?
[08:06] <owner989> justing that sound chip does work under linux
[08:06] <PokerFacePenguin> varsendagger: and a nice philanthropic attitude to go with em
[08:06] <JustinG> i've setup slackware several times with sound working.
[08:06] <varsendagger> PokerFacePenguin, true story
[08:06] <JustinG> owner989: i'm experiencing no sound
[08:06] <nicholaspaul> JustinG, Jack is supposed to be a good app too. Worth  looking into
[08:06] <JustinG> 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[08:06] <owner989> esd hogs the sound
[08:06] <Aegir``> Mulder: Epiphany is calling you! Give in to Epiphany! :P
[08:06] <owner989> did you try my command suggestion
[08:06] <JustinG> yeah
[08:06] <ilba7r> how to add an environmental variable to gnomerc? I need to enter a library path and bash_profile does not work for it
[08:06] <Mulder> Aegir`, is that the gnome browser?
[08:07] <salvador> im tired of typings yes
[08:07] <salvador> rm: remove write-protected regular file `gettext-0.14.5/gettext-runtime/intl/dgettext.lo'? y
[08:07] <salvador> rm: remove write-protected regular file `gettext-0.14.5/gettext-runtime/intl/dgettext.lo'? y
[08:07] <salvador> a lot of files
[08:07] <salvador> not only one
[08:07] <JustinG> nothing doing
[08:07] <Aegir> Mulder: Yeah. It's pretty good. Doesn't seem to have popup blocking though, probably an extension methinks.
[08:07] <owner989> salvador dont you have a trash can icon in your bottom right hand corner
[08:07] <durt> browsers are just too bloated - there needs to be something in between dillo and the the big boys
[08:07] <HappyFool> salvador: 'rm -rf *' -- the -f should stop the question
[08:07] <salvador> yes
[08:07] <owner989> why dont you use that to empty your trash?
[08:07] <Mulder> Aegir, does it do tabbed browsing?
[08:07] <salvador> ok thanks
[08:07] <PokerFacePenguin> salvador: i guess you could make a script an alias that types yes when you type /y
[08:08] <salvador> je
[08:08] <poningru> owner989: dude the problem is if a sudo file gets trashed by a program then this can happen
[08:08] <Aegir> Mulder: Yeah. it's tabbed browsing was more advanced than Firefoxes prior to FF 1.5
[08:08] <salvador> with the -f i'll try
[08:08] <Mulder> Aegir, nice. i'll give it a go
[08:08] <poningru> yeah some programs do move it to trash
[08:08] <salvador> thanks
[08:08] <Aegir> Mulder: It's a good browser, apt-get it and see ;)
[08:08] <HappyFool> JustinG: does 'aplay -l' list your sound card ?
[08:08] <HappyFool> JustinG: (don't paste here ;)
[08:08] <felipito> man, I'm using NVU for web design a new website and, man! I'm surprised with the easy of use. All web design softwares should be like this one!
[08:08] <owner989> is epiphany better than firefox
[08:08] <poningru> felipito: we all hail glazmon
[08:09] <salvador> all yeah baby
[08:09] <PokerFacePenguin> all hail that guy that wrote the pastebin script
[08:09] <Mulder> Aegir, i tried it long ago when i was using sarge, but it was slow. i also had a shitty slow system back in those days. so that was probably why
[08:09] <JustinG> aplay -l does list it
[08:09] <poningru> glazman*
[08:09] <felipito> owner989: I don't think so
[08:09] <salvador> thankyou very much
[08:09] <JustinG> but no sound is coming out when i test sound
[08:09] <salvador> it worked
[08:09] <HappyFool> JustinG: ok, and can you play a .wav file?
[08:09] <owner989> what program are you trying to play sound in justing
[08:09] <poningru> http://glazman.org/weblog/dotclear/index.php
[08:09] <JustinG> i can "play" one but experience no sound
[08:09] <salvador> I tiped sudo rm -rf * and it worked
[08:09] <owner989> justinG are you using XMMS?
[08:09] <HappyFool> JustinG: something like 'aplay /usr/share/sounds/login.wav' ?
[08:10] <salvador> thankyou man
[08:10] <felipito> ok
[08:10] <vikasbn> hi ppl, i have a laptop with external monitor connected thru a docking station...
[08:10] <JustinG> did that just now and nothing, HappyFool
[08:10] <salvador> does anibody knows a compiler for java like Textpad for ubuntu linux?
[08:10] <HappyFool> JustinG: no error or anything?
[08:10] <vikasbn> the video on the ext monitor comes only on the analog port and not on the DVI port
[08:10] <nicholaspaul> HELP!! : ) I can't seem to fix broken packages in Synaptic - it says E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[08:10] <JustinG> no error but no output
[08:10] <HappyFool> JustinG: ok, fire up alsamixer
[08:10] <owner989> justinG please tell me which program you are using to play files
[08:11] <owner989> ?
[08:11] <HappyFool> JustinG: use the left and right arrows to choose channels, up and down to adjust volume and 'm' to mute/unute
[08:11] <JustinG> been there. alsamixer's settings are fine
[08:11] <vegos> hello, my audio was working but i followed some instructions on the ubuntu guide about setting up my audio properly and now i have no audio can someone please help
[08:11] <vikasbn> is there a sample xorg.conf out there for setting up external monitors?
[08:11] <JustinG> (i've setup slackware in the past a few times, i know how to get sound working...usually)
[08:11] <owner989> lol vegos
[08:12] <salvador> does anibody knows a compiler for java like Textpad for ubuntu linux?
[08:12] <owner989> vikasbn just use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:12] <JustinG> owner989: i'm testing in the sound preferences applet in GNOME
[08:12] <vikasbn> owner989, thanks!
[08:12] <HappyFool> salvador: gedit/eclipse/emacs/vi/.....
[08:12] <cyphase> why does X server crash when the nVidia driver is enabled?
[08:12] <lemur> what package is it that contains perl's geoipfree libraries?
[08:12] <JustinG> and the aplay suggestion HappyFool gave me
[08:12] <HappyFool> JustinG: you've gotten this sound card working under slackware?
[08:13] <salvador> where can I get or install that?
[08:13] <owner989> justinG use XMMS
[08:13] <vegos> so no one can help?
[08:13] <HappyFool> salvador: you already have gedit and vi (or vim); look in synaptic for the rest
[08:13] <BotBuilder> What would be a good solution for automatically sending files over to my ubuntu server whenever they are modified in a windows folder?
[08:13] <owner989> go into options >preferences  and select output plugin, chose alsa
[08:13] <JustinG> HappyFool: not this laptop's sound card no, but i know the general troubleshooting methods of fixing the sound since its usually muted by default.
[08:13] <cyphase> Why does X server crash when the nVidia driver is enabled?
[08:14] <vegos>  my audio was working but i followed some instructions on the ubuntu guide about setting up my audio properly and now i have no audio can someone please help
[08:14] <felipito> since I came from windows (arghh!) I don't know much about IRC security in linux. Anybody can enter to my machine and check my files while I am on IRC under linux like can happen in windows?
[08:14] <owner989> cyphase did you install the restricted modules?
[08:14] <salvador> yes I have gedit
[08:14] <cyphase> yes
[08:14] <salvador> but not vi
[08:14] <owner989> the answer is no felipito
[08:14] <salvador> so, how can I huse gedit?
[08:14] <insipid> anyone here using an nvidia chip?
[08:14] <salvador> and compile?
[08:14] <BotBuilder> felipito - people can access your windows comp when you're on irc?
[08:15] <HappyFool> JustinG: if memory serves, there have been a few cases where some channels need to be muted (some IEC channels, i think), though maybe that no longer applies
[08:15] <PokerFacePenguin> vegos: did you uninstall whatever you installed?  '
[08:15] <vegos> help please
[08:15] <JustinG> HappyFool: doesn't hurt to try
[08:15] <salvador> so, how can I huse gedit?
[08:15] <poningru> sweet
[08:15] <owner989> justinG xmms would be a better choice to test the sound
[08:15] <salvador> so, how can I huse gedit to compile java files?
[08:15] <owner989> because you can select the hardware output in options
[08:16] <vegos> im not sure how to uninstall it
[08:16] <HappyFool> salvador: launch it and start typing. to compile java, you can either uses gcc's java compiler or install sun's jdk
[08:16] <PokerFacePenguin> vegos: what directions did you follow?
[08:16] <felipito> BotBuilder: very easy men. I stopped using IRC under windows. It is very bad.
[08:16] <JustinG> XMMS isn't working owner989
[08:16] <JustinG> no sound coming out
[08:16] <JustinG> and i muted the IEC channels
[08:16] <BotBuilder> felipito well shite
[08:16] <_tcc> :(
[08:16] <owner989> try going into options >preferences
[08:16] <salvador> how can I make a Scrip?
[08:16] <owner989> and click configure
[08:16] <BotBuilder> I dont believe you though
[08:16] <felipito> owner989: thank you. thats what I thought.
[08:16] <JustinG> i changed it from OSS to ALSA. both don't work
[08:16] <salvador> to emty my Trash?
[08:16] <BotBuilder> ive written irc bots - its just a simple text proptocol
[08:17] <BotBuilder> sure you can get my ip address
[08:17] <vegos> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly
[08:17] <BotBuilder> but then what?
[08:17] <owner989> click configure justing
[08:17] <durt> salvador: you write your code in an editor and use javac (assuming you have jdk installed) to compile
[08:17] <owner989> try changing the audio device
[08:17] <salvador> i know now how to delete everythingm but how can I make a Scrip to doit fo rme?
[08:18] <owner989> i dont get why ubuntu devs didnt include alsaconf
[08:18] <_jason> salvador, google "bash scripting"
[08:18] <owner989> it makes audio setup really easy
[08:18] <HappyFool> JustinG: at this point all i can suggest is googling on linux + your sound card, or wait for crimsun to be around. You could also try the forums (ubuntuforms.org)
[08:18] <JustinG> aplay /usr/share/sounds/login.wavi'm looking through the forums right now as well
[08:18] <JustinG> wtf
[08:18] <JustinG> bah
[08:18] <JustinG> stupid touchpad
[08:18] <JustinG> can't disable the dern thing
[08:19] <owner989> justinG you can get alsaconf from the alsa website
[08:19] <salvador> basj scripting??
[08:19] <krak`nix> is there a shell command to display current time?
[08:19] <salvador> bash scripting??
[08:19] <salvador> how can I do that?
[08:19] <HappyFool> krak`nix: date
[08:19] <PokerFacePenguin> vegos: you made a backup of /etc/esound/esd.conf called /etc/esound/esd.conf_backup........cp back to original and remove the added lines
[08:19] <_jason> salvador, google will tell you
[08:19] <krak`nix> HappyFool: ty :)
[08:19] <salvador> jeje
[08:19] <salvador> ok
[08:20] <vegos> ok
[08:20] <owner989> i dont have any sound output unless i killall esd
[08:20] <rabeldable> salvador: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[08:20] <HappyFool> abs is the advanced one isn't it? ;)
[08:20] <HrdwrBoB> hm
[08:21] <rabeldable> HappyFool: whats the difference?
[08:21] <HappyFool> i think there's an intro on ldp too, but nm
[08:21] <B_166-ER-X> how can i set gnome to start Gdesklets automatically on startup ?
[08:22] <HappyFool> B_166-ER-X: i think System -> Preferences -> Sessions is what you want
[08:22] <B_166-ER-X> ok
[08:22] <rabeldable> HappyFool: your right...
[08:22] <rabeldable> salvador: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/index.html
[08:22] <salvador> c'mon, is there a TextPad for linux?
[08:23] <Madpilot> salvador: gEdit?
[08:23] <HappyFool> salvador: if you want to hack java, try eclipse
[08:23] <salvador> jeje alright
[08:23] <HappyFool> and if you want a real editor, try emacs :P
[08:23] <salvador> alright (Y)
[08:25] <vegos> i fixed the files but still have no audio
[08:25] <durt> salvador: scite or geany
[08:25] <PokerFacePenguin> vegos: probably cuz you killed all esd....not sure how to restart it...would reboot
[08:25] <vegos> i did
[08:26] <JustinG> man, this is pissing me off.
[08:26] <HappyFool> just launch esd in the background in a terminal: 'esd &' (the & backgrounds it)
[08:26] <salvador> what is that?
[08:26] <salvador> scite or geany?
[08:27] <kumakun> Quick question: Upgrading to Breezy using apt-get or Synaptec. I assume it's possible, but how? I'm not afraid of howtos, I just couldn't find one.
[08:27] <vegos> please can anyone help
[08:27] <HappyFool> !tell kumakun about breezy
[08:28] <HappyFool> vegos: what's the problem?
[08:28] <salvador> how can I access ntfs partitions without the console?
[08:28] <salvador> in gui?
[08:29] <vegos> my audio was working fine, but i did a howto on getting audio to work properly in the ubuntu guide and now my audio doesnt work
[08:29] <salvador> without loging with root
[08:29] <vegos> the reason i did this was because i was having problems with audacity
[08:29] <salvador> i've tried to change the permisions but it doesnt change
[08:29] <HappyFool> vegos: when you say 'doesn't work' -- doesn't work at all ?
[08:29] <HappyFool> !tell salvador about windowsdrives
[08:30] <vegos> audio is inaudible
[08:30] <rabeldable> vegos: if you have an mp3 lying around you can cat the file to /dev/audio to help troubleshoot this
[08:30] <HappyFool> catting an mp3 will result in white noise
[08:30] <PokerFacePenguin> HappyFool: he installed esd-alsa and created a symlink to a new file...wonder if he unlinks it and backs out of his install will it work
[08:30] <grayman> erm
[08:30] <rabeldable> vegos: if you cat an mp3 to /dev/audio and you hear anything then your audio drivers are loaded and working
[08:30] <salvador> what what abput windowdrives?
[08:31] <HappyFool> salvador: check your pm's from ubotu
[08:31] <fatehaze> Is there a way to add download sources to Synaptic?
[08:31] <grayman> how i stop ubuntu from wanting a cd to install things?
[08:31] <HappyFool> PokerFacePenguin: sounds like a plan
[08:31] <fatehaze> Or is it pretty comprehensive already?
[08:31] <salvador> pm's?
[08:31] <rabeldable> vegos: cat some-file.mp3 > /dev/audio
[08:31] <vegos> how do i unlink and back out of install
[08:31] <PokerFacePenguin> HappyFool: he followed the wiki for getting sound to work
[08:31] <rabeldable> vegos: then ctrl-C to quit
[08:31] <HappyFool> salvador: private messages. if you're using x-chat there shuold be a button labelled 'ubotu' at the top or bottom of the windo
[08:32] <HappyFool> PokerFacePenguin: i think he followed ubuntuguide, which is not highly rated here
[08:32] <durt> fatehaze: edit /etc/apt/sources.list if theres a repo you want to add
[08:32] <rabeldable> if you hear sound then you know your problem is with the audio program your trying to use
[08:32] <vegos> its not the audio program
[08:32] <vegos> its all the audio
[08:32] <fatehaze> Thanks
[08:32] <fatehaze> Is it worth doing?
[08:32] <rabeldable> vegos: did you cat to /dev/audio?
[08:32] <HappyFool> vegos: you installed 'esd-alsa' ?
[08:32] <ExDead> hello all
[08:32] <vegos> yes i did
[08:32] <JustinG> i need~ music and i can't get any sound output
[08:32] <vegos> i installed esd-alsa that is
[08:33] <rabeldable> vegos: nothing... not even some garble?
[08:33] <HappyFool> vegos: hmm. what was the package name?
[08:33] <ExDead> quien habla espaol
[08:33] <HappyFool> vegos: libesd-alsa0 ?
[08:33] <HappyFool> !es
[08:33] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:33] <HrdwrBoB> ExDead: #ubuntu-es
[08:33] <PokerFacePenguin> salvador: you dont _right_ click it to empty...
[08:33] <ExDead> thanks
[08:33] <vegos> thats the one
[08:33] <PokerFacePenguin> oops
[08:33] <PokerFacePenguin> up arrow strikes again
[08:34] <ordinary> How do I get my screen size to be 800x600 pixels?
[08:34] <HappyFool> hmm, i have that and it works fine
[08:34] <salvador> yes I did
[08:34] <salvador> but nothing happend
[08:34] <PokerFacePenguin> salvador: was from earlier
[08:34] <HappyFool> vegos: can you point me to the guide you followed
[08:34] <vegos> sure
[08:34] <PokerFacePenguin> salvador: a history error
[08:35] <ordinary> How do I expand the resolutions that my screen will use?
[08:35] <vegos> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly
[08:35] <ExDead> please i need help with the rar files
[08:36] <HappyFool> vegos: ok. for reference, please don't use ubuntuguide in the future. use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[08:36] <owner989> why happyfool?
[08:36] <HappyFool> vegos: are you using ubuntu 5.10 ? (the latest one)
[08:36] <rabeldable> !ubuntuguide
[08:36] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, totally, an unofficial guide written by community members. It is not guaranteed to be up to date, or to work. There is an official guide, at http://help.ubuntu.com which is preferred.
[08:36] <vegos> ywa
[08:36] <vegos> yes*
[08:36] <JustinG> where can i get a WPA driver?
[08:37] <rcmiv> which channel for applications help?
[08:37] <PokerFacePenguin> rcmiv: give it a shot
[08:37] <HappyFool> vegos: hmm
[08:37] <HappyFool> vegos: you did all of those steps?
[08:37] <masingerz> doaes anybody here know how to get rid of audio static in rhythmbox?
[08:38] <vegos> yes
[08:38] <rcmiv> trying to get VICE to work
[08:38] <HappyFool> vegos: i think the easiest thing will be to try to undo them
[08:38] <vegos> i did
[08:38] <vegos> i cp the backup
[08:38] <PokerFacePenguin> rcmiv: i'm not familiar with that one
[08:38] <vegos> and replaced the lines
[08:38] <vegos> the only thing i didnt undo is the installation of that also app
[08:39] <vegos> alsa*
[08:39] <rcmiv> not surprised PFP
[08:39] <PokerFacePenguin> rcmiv: what is it
[08:39] <rcmiv> C64 emulator
[08:39] <HappyFool> vegos: that guide is for ubuntu 5.04 -- i think libesd-alsa0 is standard for ubuntu 5.10
[08:39] <derrickw> hey has anyone built a distro with debian from scratch? i'm kind of a linux n00b, but i was really think about doing it, partly because i think it would be a good way to learn how the system works, and partly because, as disorganized as i am in real life, i am a little ocd about certain things, like only having on my computer what i need, and everything in perfect order
[08:39] <PokerFacePenguin> rcmiv: dang....i had one of those! :)
[08:39] <HappyFool> vegos: did you remove /etc/asound.conf ?
[08:39] <PokerFacePenguin> rcmiv: even had a 300 baud modem with it
[08:39] <vegos> i didnt remove it
[08:39] <vegos> i just deleted all the lines
[08:39] <derrickw> but i am wondering if it is too incredibly difficult for someone who is new to linux
[08:40] <rcmiv> good speed 300
[08:40] <HrdwrBoB> derrickw: eh, you can do it if you want but there's better things to spend time on
[08:40] <PokerFacePenguin> rcmiv: in those days it was
[08:40] <HrdwrBoB> and it would be very difficult
[08:40] <rcmiv> 2400!
[08:40] <HappyFool> vegos: there are 2 configuration files: /etc/esound/esd.conf and /etc/asound.conf
[08:40] <PokerFacePenguin> rcmiv: still managed to use my fair share of extenders...oops..did i say that?
[08:40] <vegos> yes
[08:41] <vegos> i restored the old lines in the esd.conf
[08:41] <vegos> and deleted all lines in the asound.conf
[08:41] <derrickw> HrdwrBoB - you don't think it's particularly fulfilling?
[08:41] <HappyFool> vegos: ok, i suggest just rm'ing /etc/asound.conf (sudo rm /etc/asound.conf)
[08:41] <HappyFool> vegos: that will delete the file
[08:42] <HappyFool> vegos: did you reboot after doing all this?
[08:42] <vegos> yes
[08:42] <HappyFool> hmm
[08:42] <vegos> should i reboot now, after rm
[08:42] <HrdwrBoB> derrickw: not really
[08:42] <HappyFool> vegos: let's leave that as a last resort
[08:42] <HappyFool> vegos: have you run alsamixer ?
[08:43] <PokerFacePenguin> derrickw: depends on how much time you got to fufill up
[08:43] <vegos> no, whats that
[08:43] <HappyFool> vegos: that will let you check the volume controls on each channel
[08:43] <JustinG> argh
[08:43] <vegos> where is it
[08:44] <vegos> i found it
[08:44] <HappyFool> vegos: run 'alsamixer' in the terminal. use the left and right arrows to choose channels, up and down to adjust volume and 'm' to mute/unute
[08:44] <HappyFool> vegos: oh, and ESC to exit
[08:44] <PokerFacePenguin> HappyFool: he still linked that one file...gotta take care of that too doesnt he?
[08:44] <ordinary> can I edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to expand the number of resolutions my screen can employ?
[08:44] <HappyFool> PokerFacePenguin: oh right, thanks
[08:44] <vegos> that work
[08:44] <vegos> ed
[08:44] <vegos> its fixed
[08:45] <HappyFool> ah-ha
[08:45] <vegos> thank you very much
[08:45] <PokerFacePenguin> HappyFool: nice job
[08:45] <HappyFool> :)
[08:45] <vegos> have another question
[08:46] <vegos> how do you mount windows on boot
[08:46] <HappyFool> !tell vegos about windowsdrives
[08:46] <vegos> thanks
[08:47] <personal> 787i6
[08:47] <JustinG> i really need this sound working T_T
[08:47] <GoyangFC> hey guys
[08:47] <GoyangFC> im about to use ubuntu
[08:47] <personal> medan
[08:48] <GoyangFC> hows the dual-boot setting for ubuntu?
[08:48] <derrickw> goyangfc - nice choice
[08:48] <GoyangFC> derrickw: hows the dual-boot setting for ubuntu and windows?
[08:48] <PokerFacePenguin> !dualboot
[08:48] <ubotu> [dualboot]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[08:48] <nelposto> GoyangFC: works well for me
[08:48] <salvador> why does sometimes linux doesn't connect to internet by router? and the I boot windows and it does connect normally
[08:48] <owner989> it works fine goyangfc
[08:49] <GoyangFC> oh damn thanks guys
[08:50] <GoyangFC> pokerfacepenguin: thank you
[08:50] <PokerFacePenguin> GoyangFC: np
[08:50] <salvador> why does sometimes linux doesn't connect to internet by router? and the I boot windows and it does connect normally
[08:50] <GoyangFC> pokerfacepenguin: and then once i become comfortable with ubuntu im gonna switch to gentoo
[08:50] <mrkoje> salvador: it could be many different problems....
[08:50] <mrkoje> salvador: type ifconfig in the cli and see what it says
[08:51] <mrkoje> salvador: are you talking about wifi or wired
[08:51] <drumline> you guys like Shoreline as a firewall?
[08:51] <salvador> wired
[08:52] <mrkoje> salvador: what does it say when you type   "ifconfig" at the command line
[08:52] <GoyangFC> nelposto,owner989: thank you
[08:52] <drumline> salvador: what's going on?
[08:52] <nelposto> np GFC
[08:52] <salvador> well wen I boot ubuntu the ethernet connection fails
[08:53] <salvador> and in windows it does not fail
[08:53] <GoyangFC> ubuntu sounds sick
[08:53] <salvador> that means that the router is not the problem, i think
[08:53] <drumline> ok...  salvador, type this and put the output into pastebin.com.  I think I may know what's going on.,
[08:53] <GoyangFC> nelposto: is gnome included??
[08:53] <drumline> salvador: type: route
[08:53] <mrkoje> salvador: no its probably not the router but instead the initialzation of your nic with ubuntu
[08:54] <drumline> mrkoje: there's a bug in the KDE network config util
[08:54] <salvador> ok i type route, then?
[08:54] <mrkoje> drumline: why would you use kde?
[08:54] <scottishkiwi> Anyone able to help me?  I've upgraded to 5.10 and wireless networking no longer works.  It worked by default on 5.04.  I'm only able to connect via wired connection.
[08:54] <mrkoje> ubuntu is gnome
[08:54] <drumline> salvador: use pastebin.com to send me a link.
[08:54] <GoyangFC> mrkoje: nice
[08:55] <drumline> mrkoje: that's besides my effort here.
[08:55] <salvador> but right know am not using the router
[08:55] <robotgeek> scottishkiwi: what wireless card do you have?
[08:55] <drumline> salvador: ok...   paste it into a private window to me
[08:55] <mrkoje> GoyangFC: What do you mean?
[08:55] <salvador> ok
[08:55] <GoyangFC> mrkoje: well i was curious if it was KDE or GNOME
[08:56] <mrkoje> ubuntu is by default gnome...  on the other hand there is a fork... kubuntu which is kde by default
[08:56] <scottishkiwi> intersil isl3890
[08:56] <salvador> ok, how can I send private window?
[08:56] <GoyangFC> mrkoje: thanks
[08:56] <mrkoje> you wouln't be using kde or kde network config with a default install of ubuntu
[08:56] <drumline> salvador: do you see my name on the right?   double click on it.
[08:57] <salvador> ok
[08:57] <salvador> nothing happens
[08:57] <drumline> type: /query drumline
[08:58] <mrkoje> is what i meant is that you wouldn't be using... not really... couldn't... per se
[08:59] <salvador> guys, how can I install RPM pakages in ubuntu?
[08:59] <owner989> you cant
[08:59] <HappyFool> !tell salvador about alien
[08:59] <owner989> you can try and use alien
[08:59] <owner989> but it doesnt always work
[08:59] <HappyFool> salvador: only do so as a last resort
[08:59] <scottishkiwi> robotgeek - it's an intersil isl3890.  it worked by default in 5.04 as eth0.  I can configure eth2 for wireless but it doesn't work (ie I can put in my WEP key etc) but nothing happens
[08:59] <salvador> je
[09:00] <salvador> i download the LimeWire and it's on RPM
[09:00] <owner989> there is limewire for debian/ubuntu
[09:00] <salvador> so I coudn't install it
[09:00] <robotgeek> scottishkiwi: so it detected and stuff, but is not able to connect?
[09:00] <drumline> salvador: umm...  are you going to drop this cycle?   I'm waiting on you.
[09:00] <owner989> search synaptic salvador
[09:00] <salvador> really where?
[09:00] <HappyFool> hmm. ubotu has a limewire entry, but i'm not sure how up-to-date it is
[09:00] <salvador> noup
[09:00] <owner989> goto system > administration >synaptic package manager
[09:01] <salvador> noup
[09:01] <HappyFool> !tell salvador about limewire
[09:01] <PokerFacePenguin> scottishkiwi: if  you have signal....it is an ip problem most likely
[09:01] <salvador> i've already search in Synaptic and nohting happens
[09:01] <HappyFool> check your pm's from ubotu
[09:01] <masingerz> does anybody here know how to get rid of audio static in rhythmbox?
[09:01] <drumline> salvador: alright.  I'll just let you figure out the internet issue on your own.
[09:01] <PokerFacePenguin> scottishkiwi: are you using dhcp?  if so do a sudo dhclient interfacex
[09:02] <owner989> salvador try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66563&highlight=ati+driver
[09:02] <owner989> it installs limewire and other p2p progs for you
[09:02] <masingerz> later im tired ill come back tomorrow
[09:02] <salvador> alright thanks
[09:03] <salvador> so, I will never be able to install RPM pakages?
[09:03] <durt> use alien salvador
[09:03] <HappyFool> salvador: have you checked your private messages from ubotu ?
[09:03] <HappyFool> *grinds teeth*
[09:03] <salvador> yes thankyou
[09:04] <salvador> so everytime I have to download the other installer?
[09:04] <salvador> so everytime I have to download the "Other" installers?
[09:04] <owner989> salvador you would be better to use the link i posted
[09:04] <owner989> automatix
[09:04] <scottishkiwi> Hi pokerfacepenguin.  I'll try that command in a second.
[09:05] <PokerFacePenguin> scottishkiwi: where interfacex is your interface name of course...i think you said it was eth2
[09:05] <salvador> yes
[09:05] <nalioth> !automatix
[09:05] <salvador> yes thankyou
[09:06] <salvador> (Y)
[09:06] <salvador> wow
[09:06] <salvador> now I have LimeWire in Ubuntu
[09:06] <nalioth> owner989: i'd appreciate it if you didnt recommend automatix in here, it is unsafe
[09:06] <owner989> how so nalioth?
[09:06] <vegos> anyone know how to configure an ATI card
[09:07] <HappyFool> vegos: you mean install the accelerated drivers?
[09:07] <nalioth> it does not provide a safe back up during install, uses very ill-advised methods to install and other non standard practices
[09:07] <vegos> well i cant play video
[09:07] <scottishkiwi> PokerFacePenguin - can I paste you the output in a private message?
[09:07] <vegos> thats all i really no
[09:07] <vegos> know*
[09:07] <PokerFacePenguin> yes
[09:07] <salvador> so know how can I run LimeWire?
[09:07] <nalioth> owner989: we've seen quite a few boxes in here that have been broken due to it's use
[09:07] <robotgeek> salvador: can't you just run gtk-gnutella, that works fine?
[09:07] <owner989> hmm i used it
[09:08] <salvador> do I always have to double click the runLime.sh?
[09:08] <owner989> whats the main problem it caused
[09:08] <PokerFacePenguin> scottishkiwi: yes
[09:08] <vegos> when i installed ubuntu i had to option "NoAccel" "True"
[09:08] <vegos> thats all i know about it
[09:08] <scottishkiwi> PokerFacePenguin - Hopefully you can see it
[09:08] <PokerFacePenguin> scottishkiwi: not if you arent registered
[09:09] <GoyangFC> how do you get to language selector on ubuntu?
[09:09] <scottishkiwi> Ah.  I'm not registered.  Damn newbie!
[09:09] <HappyFool> !tell vegos about ati
[09:09] <PokerFacePenguin> did you type sudo before dhclient eth2
[09:09] <vegos> thanks
[09:10] <[Rsync] > Hi guys
[09:10] <GoyangFC> guys, how do you get to language selector?
[09:10] <PokerFacePenguin> scottishkiwi: sudo dhclient eth2  gets you an ip address and automatically sets your default route to the router
[09:10] <scottishkiwi> Yes I did.  The final 2 lines were no DHCPOFFERS received.  No working leases in persistent database - sleeping
[09:11] <HappyFool> GoyangFC: System -> Admin -> Language selector
[09:11] <GoyangFC> happyfool: thanks and also how do you get desklets?
[09:11] <PokerFacePenguin> scottishkiwi: when  you type an ifconfig does it say interface is up AND _has signal_ ?
[09:11] <nalioth> owner989: i has no built in safety net (in case something goes wrong during operations) it use --force  quite a bit
[09:12] <PokerFacePenguin> scottishkiwi: ifconfig and iwconfig are your friends for t/shooting this kinda thing
[09:13] <scottishkiwi> Link quality is 15.  Signal level 0.  Noise level 244.  I have excellent line of site - and have never had any issues with signal.
[09:13] <scottishkiwi> thanks PokerFacePenguin.  THis is really appreciated.
[09:14] <salvador> bash: gtk-gnutella: command not found
[09:14] <PokerFacePenguin> scottishkiwi: np
[09:14] <salvador> bash: gtk-gnutella: command not found
[09:14] <salvador> bash: gtk-gnutella: command not found??????
[09:15] <cast> salvador: we, ummm, gathered that.
[09:16] <HappyFool> GoyangFC: not sure about gdesklets, sorry. take a look in synaptic (System -> Admin -> Synaptic)
[09:16] <GoyangFC> happyfool: thanks
[09:19] <Starfire> frikkin sound...
[09:19] <nalioth> salvador: did you install it? "sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella"  ?
[09:19] <binks> hello
[09:20] <dcj028> hi can anyone tell me how to install jre2 on my ubuntu 5.04 ? it cannot find the package sun-j2re1.5
[09:20] <HappyFool> !tell dcj028 about javadebs
[09:20] <binks> i have just installed breezy and added kernel i686smp from the repository rebooted into the new kernel is that all i have to do to set it up
[09:21] <HappyFool> binks: should be
[09:21] <dcj028> whats javadebs happyfool?
[09:21] <permana> hai
[09:21] <nalioth> dcj028: look at your private messages
[09:21] <salvador> ley me try
[09:21] <HappyFool> binks: if you do 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' you should see entries for two cpu's
[09:21] <salvador> let me try
[09:21] <salvador> im not sure
[09:22] <owner989> im using the same kernel binks
[09:22] <binks> cheers anything else i should do to tweak performance
[09:22] <binks> i do see 2 processors
[09:22] <binks> :)
[09:22] <salvador> what is gtk-gnutella for?
[09:23] <nalioth> salvador: it is a p2p program that uses the gnutella network
[09:23] <owner989> binks it is running faster than the 386 kernel
[09:23] <owner989> at least thats what i noticed
[09:24] <salvador> wow
[09:24] <owner989> gtk gnutella is great
[09:24] <owner989> better than limewire
[09:24] <salvador> Reading package lists... Done
[09:24] <salvador> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:24] <salvador> E: Couldn't find package gtk-gnutella
[09:25] <nalioth> ubotu: tell salvador about repos
[09:25] <salvador> something wrong
[09:25] <nalioth> salvador: enable the universe and multiverse repositories
[09:25] <owner989> i can see that package
[09:25] <HappyFool> pasting in channel is something wrong :P
[09:25] <salvador> where can I do that?
[09:25] <nalioth> salvador: see the priv msg from ubotu
[09:25] <t4c0> ok .. I keep hearing Ubuntu this Ubuntu that .. what is so great about Ubuntu ? is it good for a workstation (lets say the user has no problem juggling SPARC assembly in his head & shit like that .. do you think he'd be satisfied with ubuntu ?)
[09:26] <ramza3> what do I need to do to reload .bashrc
[09:26] <owner989> lol t4c0
[09:26] <ramza3> source .bashrc
[09:26] <nalioth> t4c0: it's usable for everyone
[09:27] <HrdwrBoB> t4c0: I admin about 30-40 machines, I love it :)
[09:27] <t4c0> doesn't "usable for everyone" imply "bloaty" ?
[09:27] <owner989> actually its less bloated
[09:27] <owner989> imho
[09:27] <HrdwrBoB> t4c0: if you've used debian, it's pretty much like that only it works more
[09:27] <ramza3> the real question, is it the best all-around distro.  I am loving it, took me a couple of hours to setup this machine with everything I need
[09:27] <owner989> it fits on one cd, how is it more bloated?
[09:27] <t4c0> what do you mean it works "more" ?
[09:28] <ramza3> t4c0: just popin a liveCD, you will see
[09:28] <HrdwrBoB> t4c0: given that you have to use debian unstable to get any decent software, it works more :)
[09:28] <PokerFacePenguin> t4c0: burn it...it if doesnt work for u..give it away
[09:28] <HrdwrBoB> it does the simple stuff so I don't have to
[09:28] <owner989> t4c0 are you a linux user
[09:28] <t4c0> ramza3: oh no .. i'm not going into the "best distro" talk
[09:28] <HrdwrBoB> I have better things to worry about than pissfarting around with my desktop box
[09:28] <holycow> t4c0, heh
[09:28] <t4c0> I know my way arround Gentoo, Slackware
[09:28] <ramza3> I didnt say bestdistro, I said best all-around distro
[09:29] <ramza3> I would say Fedora is probably more suited for enterprises
[09:29] <owner989> slackware is more noobish that ubuntu
[09:29] <holycow> ramza3, that is a terrible question
[09:29] <holycow> ramza3, it is terrible because its dumb
[09:29] <t4c0> i seriously doubt that
[09:29] <holycow> ramza3, its dumb because you cannot define 'best overall' as that means nothing
[09:29] <cast> owner989: so what are you saying? people new to linux looking for the most userfriendly OS should isntall slack?
[09:29] <HrdwrBoB> ramza3: that really depends, and I'm quite sure you don't know what you're talking about
[09:30] <owner989> i would install ubuntu cast
[09:30] <HrdwrBoB> given that an enterprise would be better off with 'real' redhat
[09:30] <owner989> but slackware is marginally easier
[09:30] <t4c0> to a noob I'd rather recommend "linux for human beings" than slackware
[09:30] <owner989> to setup
[09:30] <holycow> cast, depends on their goals, if they want to learn how to use linux, then slack will force you to learn
[09:30] <t4c0> redhat is crap. (don't feel the need to back this statement up so if you need proof/reasons, just ignore this line)
[09:30] <owner989> ubuntu forces you to learn
[09:30] <ramza3> HrdwrBoB, I just wanted to see how many people responded to get them excited
[09:30] <nixo> I've installed ubuntu for the first time today. I was expecting that my Win XP partition (dev/hda5) will be put in to grub automatically, but that didn't happen. How can get dual boot working?
[09:30] <holycow> owner989, not even close bro, not in the least
[09:30] <cast> holycow: thats true but i was confronting the 'slackware is more noobish that ubuntu' comment :>
[09:30] <t4c0> all this "force you to learn" is bullshit
[09:30] <holycow> you could use ubuntu for years and know nothing
[09:31] <holycow> *nod*
[09:31] <t4c0> i think in most cases it forces you to switch distros
[09:31] <dylan> does anybody know how to get mplayer to repeat a movie?
[09:31] <dylan> is there a repeat setting?
[09:31] <cast> slack was pretty userfriendly last time i used it. seemed to configure everything
[09:31] <cast> dylan: you mean -loop 0?
[09:31] <dylan> cast, i dont know...does that work
[09:31] <owner989> ubuntu is great i think
[09:31] <cast> dylan: 0 == infinity, any other int will loop it that many times
[09:32] <t4c0> I consider myself a FreeBSD user .. but I have had my time with Linux and still use it on occasion
[09:32] <dylan> cast, can i do this from the mplayer-386 gui?
[09:32] <cast> dylan: uh, no idea. i don't use gui's often :>
[09:32] <vegos> i just installed fglrx for my ati
[09:33] <salvador> WOW NEW PACKAGES
[09:33] <salvador> thanks for the tip guys
[09:33] <vegos> i just installed fglrx for my ATI and now my resolution is weird, can anyone help
[09:33] <holycow> vegos, yes, get an nvidia card
[09:34] <holycow> *cough*
[09:34] <holycow> j/k!!!!
[09:34] <holycow> :)
[09:34] <holycow> what do you mean resolution is weird?
[09:34] <t4c0> HOLY COW !
[09:34] <owner989> vegos run fglrxconfig
[09:34] <t4c0> why didn't i think of that nickname
[09:34] <Tuntis> if I have an "update" Windows, how do I fixmbr?
[09:34] <cast> holycow: it keeps winking at him
[09:35] <owner989> tuntis what do you mean
[09:35] <t4c0> so anyway
[09:35] <t4c0> what's up with kubuntu ?
[09:35] <t4c0> ubuntu doesn't have kde or what ?
[09:35] <owner989> ubuntu is gnome
[09:35] <owner989> kubuntu is kde
[09:35] <ZiX> t4c0: ubuntu is gnome.
[09:35] <Tuntis> Don't ask questions why, I just need to get ntloader back.
[09:35] <holycow> cast hehe :)
[09:35] <ZiX> is kubuntu better? :o
[09:35] <HappyFool> Tuntis: i think the theory is you boot up with the cd and run fixmbr; don't know if you can boot with an update cd
[09:35] <t4c0> hmm
[09:35] <owner989> i think you can run fixmbr in windows
[09:35] <t4c0> you mean .. gnome is the default wm
[09:35] <t4c0> are there any alternatives on install ?
[09:36] <owner989> like what t4c0
[09:36] <cast> like e!
[09:36] <t4c0> like screen
[09:36] <t4c0> j/k
[09:36] <nalioth> t4c0: once you get a base system, you can install kubuntu or xubuntu or any other DE you like
[09:36] <t4c0> like blackbox/fluxbox/hackedbox/openbox ... err
[09:36] <t4c0> fvwm
[09:36] <t4c0> etc
[09:36] <owner989> gnome is the most usable and user friendly of them all
[09:36] <t4c0> what's "xubuntu" ?
[09:36] <seriouslycgi> woah this is a big chan
[09:36] <nalioth> !xubuntu
[09:36] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[09:36] <t4c0> yes but it's not as lightweight as blackbox.
[09:37] <vegos> is the touchpad an inport
[09:37] <Tuntis> Xubuntu? :O
[09:37] <seriouslycgi> t4c0 can you install a lightweight manager from the install disks?
[09:37] <nalioth> t4c0: if you use it on debian, it's most likely available here
[09:37] <Glassius> i'm gonna try to use evms to join two hdds into one partiton...do i just install ubuntu normally, and then set the disks up after the install?
[09:38] <vegos> is the touchpad a inport bus
[09:38] <unimatrix9> hi there
[09:38] <t4c0> seriouslycgi: my question exactly
[09:38] <unimatrix9> is there an impress presentation somewhere about ubuntu for starters?
[09:38] <holycow> unimatrix9, no one would bother to create such a thing
[09:38] <holycow> unimatrix9, try the iki
[09:38] <HappyFool> Glassius: you can setup LVM during the ubuntu install -- i don't know what evms is
[09:38] <holycow> wiki
[09:39] <linux_newb> hi people:)
[09:39] <wickedpuppy> enterprise volume management system ...
[09:39] <HappyFool> does LVM qualify?
[09:39] <wickedpuppy> i don't think there is much difference between lvms and evms
[09:39] <HappyFool> anyway, i setup LVM and RAID-1 in the ubuntu installer, though it was a bit of a pain
[09:39] <seriouslycgi> how fast is ubuntu at installing from apt without a gui?
[09:39] <wickedpuppy> but then again i use ext3
[09:40] <t4c0> errh
[09:40] <t4c0> i missed something
[09:40] <holycow> seriouslycgi, the same as with gui, what they hell is up with questions tonight?
[09:40] <t4c0> why is redhat good for enterprises ?
[09:40] <holycow> :)
[09:40] <linux_newb> can someone help me im trying to install ubuntu
[09:40] <wickedpuppy> t4c0, #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:40] <t4c0> windows is teh shiznit
[09:40] <holycow> linux_newb, just ask
[09:40] <seriouslycgi> sorry not really asking the question right.... im trying to install something on a pent 200mhz but fedora takes about 2 hours to install gcc
[09:40] <linux_newb> ok
[09:41] <holycow> seriouslycgi, it's okay, i'm drunk :)
[09:41] <salvador> bye guys
[09:41] <salvador> and thanks for all
[09:41] <linux_newb> i've started installing it, then it asked me to reboot, and now im at this screen that says GNU GRUB command prompt like thing
[09:41] <salvador> i'll never change ubuntu
[09:41] <linux_newb> what am i sposed to do here
[09:41] <ZiX> t4c0: redhat 9.0 is the normal redhat, but redhat fucked up stuff and then made fedora, and now you have to pay for Redhat, you get the enterprise edition..
[09:41] <holycow> linux_newb, be more specific
[09:42] <jenda> What's going on in here?
[09:42] <t4c0> uhum .. I know the deal with redhat and fedora .. what i don't know is why redhat would be the best for enterprises
[09:42] <t4c0> jenda: we're having a gay orgy
[09:42] <ajeet> Hello, I've updated my kernel via update manager and upon rebooting, noticed there are two entries for Ubuntu in the boot loader, one for each kernel, why is this?
[09:42] <t4c0> uh wait .. this is not #gay-orgy !! damn it
[09:42] <spikebike> tf rhel is best supproted
[09:42] <linux_newb> well i'm installing it, it did it's thing, then it wanted me to reboot, and after rrebooting i'm at this grub screen and i'm not sure what to type
[09:42] <owner989> ajeet, because you can use both
[09:42] <holycow> t4c0, well i can tell you why friends of mine use redhat instead of debian for example, they need to be able to call someone on a 24/hr 2hour response time basis
[09:42] <spikebike> t4
[09:43] <owner989> uninstall the old one with synaptic if you dont want it
[09:43] <HappyFool> linux_newb: that shouldn't heppen
[09:43] <t4c0> tech support ?
[09:43] <holycow> t4c0, it has little to do with the software, although redhat really is great about open sourcing stuff and community support
[09:43] <t4c0> the noobienes
[09:43] <holycow> i can't rault them for anything really
[09:43] <ajeet> owner989: I thought when you update a kernel, it replaces the old one?
[09:43] <linux_newb> oh so any suggestions on what i should do then
[09:43] <HappyFool> t4c0, holycow et al: could you please take the redhat discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[09:43] <owner989> it doesnt
[09:43] <mrkoje> i like the fedora/red hat distro very much
[09:43] <t4c0> so i suppose they're not the "juggle sparc asm in your head" kind of guys, huh ?
[09:44] <owner989> you can boot with either one
[09:44] <mrkoje> i use that for my production server... i have ubuntu on my laptop though
[09:44] <HappyFool> linux_newb: no error messages during install
[09:44] <holycow> t4c0, as a sysadmin, there are times when you don't really want to be tracking down a kernel oops ... especially when your running infastructure for multimilion dollar companies and your bosses are dipshits that think computers are as simple as toasters
[09:44] <owner989> if you remove the old one with synaptic it will remove the boot entry for it as well
[09:44] <linux_newb> none
[09:44] <owner989> or you can  sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:44] <linux_newb> it installed fine
[09:44] <t4c0> hm .. i suppose you're right
[09:44] <ajeet> owner989: is the new kernel the previous kernel with updated code... What I mean is will I lose some functionality by removing the old one?
[09:44] <owner989> no you wont
[09:45] <t4c0> by the way .. I'm turning 18 today .. happy birthday to me .. you'd think someone in my position would be doing something else than talk OS related subjects huh ? :-/
[09:45] <owner989> it is safe to remove the old one if the new one boots up fine
[09:45] <ajeet> So the new kernel is the old one with updated code?
[09:45] <t4c0> in any case.
[09:45] <t4c0> thanks for the info
[09:45] <owner989> basically ajeet
[09:45] <t4c0> my girlfriend needs a ..
[09:45] <linux_newb> do you think i should reinstall from scratch again or what?
[09:45] <t4c0> well .. she doesn't need linux but doesn't matter
[09:45] <t4c0> i'm going to install it on her pc anyway
[09:46] <wickedpuppy> t4c0, #ubuntu-offtopic pls
[09:46] <t4c0> and I was thinking this would be a good opportunity to install ubuntu
[09:46] <owner989> lol t4c0
[09:46] <ajeet> owner989: Thanks
[09:47] <Starfire> jargh
[09:47] <Starfire> sound...needed
[09:47] <HappyFool> linux_newb: what other OS's do you have installed?
[09:47] <owner989> it sounds like a good idea t4c0
[09:47] <linux_newb> i had windows on it but that was deleted when i installed this
[09:47] <owner989> and with dualbooting no damage is done
[09:47] <linux_newb> i assume
[09:47] <t4c0> ok, thanks
[09:48] <HappyFool> linux_newb: if you told the installer to use the whole drive, windows will have been erased
[09:48] <Tuntis> I'm gonna fixmbr with the recovery console, but how the hell do I boot if it doesn't overwrite the mbr :/
[09:48] <linux_newb> yes i told it to use the whole drive, its only 10gb
[09:48] <Tuntis> Oh, it couldn't install itself
[09:48] <HappyFool> Tuntis: my impression is that fixmbr does overwrite the mbr (that's kind of the point ;)
[09:49] <jenda> linux_newb: What does it do exactly about GRUB?
[09:49] <jenda> linux_newb: What OSes do you have?
[09:49] <owner989> you want it to overwrite the mbr tuntis?
[09:49] <Tuntis> Yes
[09:49] <linux_newb> it stops on a screen
[09:49] <owner989> then fixmbr is what you should do
[09:49] <Tuntis> I don't want to take the risk on overwriting grub
[09:49] <linux_newb> that says GNU GRUB at the top
[09:49] <owner989> lol
[09:49] <Tuntis> The problem is, the Windows disk is an "update"
[09:49] <owner989> of course it will overwrite grub
[09:49] <HappyFool> linux_newb: hmm. i don't know if reinstalling will make any difference
[09:49] <owner989> thats what you want to do
[09:49] <linux_newb> "minimal bash-like line editing is supported..."
[09:49] <Tuntis> Erm, I meant installing ubuntu again overwriting grub
[09:49] <HappyFool> linux_newb: you are viewing this right now ?
[09:49] <linux_newb> yes
[09:50] <linux_newb> viewing right now
[09:50] <jenda> t4c0: lol, thanks for filling me in on that :)
[09:50] <Tuntis> (as I have the problem of that I installed Ubuntu in a USB drive and I don't want to destroy the partitions before grub is in datahell)
[09:50] <HappyFool> linux_newb: ok, try this: 'kernel (hd0,0)/boot/' and type <TAB>
[09:50] <HappyFool> linux_newb: without the quotes
[09:50] <linux_newb> ok
[09:51] <Rubin> how are universe packages maintained, like if a bug is found in one that needs fixed, do they update to a newer version? or just back-port the fix?
[09:51] <HappyFool> hmm, maybe there's a way to get grub to list the partitions
[09:51] <owner989> use cfdisk
[09:51] <owner989> it will list the partitiojns
[09:51] <owner989> partitions
[09:51] <HappyFool> from a grub prompt ?
[09:51] <owner989> no
[09:51] <linux_newb> it says Error 27: Unrecognized command
[09:52] <owner989> tuntis try grub-install
[09:53] <HappyFool> linux_newb: hmm
[09:53] <jenda> linux_newb: Did you use the default installation or expert? Do you have another OS on the machine?
[09:54] <linux_newb> default, no other OS although it did have windows on previously. i tol it to use the whole disk
[09:54] <linux_newb> told*
[09:55] <Nikusan> Hey all, does anyone know why I can get DVDs working in Ogle, but not in VLC or Totem?
[09:55] <owner989> you dont really need grub if you only have one os installed
[09:56] <Tuntis> erhghe, Why... do I want to try grub-install when I just want to get rid of Grub and get NTLoader back for these reasons: 1) The USB external drive I partitioned for Kubuntu didn't work. 2) I won't be removing the ext2/swap partitions before I can get grub off my ass 3) I do not trust in the Ubuntu installation what I am gonna run to an IDE disk's partition overwriting grub with grub
[09:56] <Starfire> how can i disable my synaptics touchpad so it doesn't mess with me while i'm typing?
[09:56] <HappyFool> linux_newb: does 'help' work ? (just a basic test)
[09:56] <HappyFool> linux_newb: i can't see a command to list the partitions in the grub manual
[09:56] <linux_newb> yes it works
[09:57] <cast> HappyFool: tab completion will list em
[09:57] <HappyFool> cast: something like root <TAB> ?
[09:57] <Starfire> Tuntis: to get rid of grub get a dos boot disk with fdisk on it. boot off the floppy/usb jumpdrive and run fdisk /mbr
[09:57] <Starfire> or win9x bootdisk
[09:58] <Tuntis> So FDISK /mbr installs me WinXP default bootmanager? :/
[09:58] <HappyFool> linux_newb: try that: 'root <TAB>'  (the <TAB> means the TAB key, not literally typing < T A B >)
[09:58] <HappyFool> linux_newb: make that 'root (<TAB>'
[09:59] <linux_newb> possible commands are : root rootnoverify
[09:59] <Starfire> Tuntis: not exactly, because the NTloader isn't exactly deleted. it restores the mbr from any non-windows bootmanagers
[09:59] <HappyFool> linux_newb: put a ' ('   (space and left parenthesis) after root
[09:59] <HappyFool> linux_newb: and press <TAB> twice
[09:59] <Tuntis> Where would I get the correct boot disk?
[09:59] <owner989> thats right tuntis
[09:59] <owner989> it does
[10:00] <Madpilot> anyone here own an iRiver IFP-795? I see they work w/ .ogg files, and are going very cheap on EBay...
[10:00] <Tuntis> Madpilot, I think you're on the wrong channel :P
[10:00] <linux_newb> k now it says grub> rootkernal (hd0,0)/boot/root/ ( )
[10:01] <Madpilot> Tuntis: not really, because I'm wondering how it works in Ubuntu, too - I've got 30Gb of .ogg music ripped into Ubuntu...
[10:01] <Tuntis> Oh, you should have mentioned the word "Linux" or "Ubuntu" :P
[10:01] <HappyFool> linux_newb: ok, try  'root (hd0,0)<ENTER>'
[10:02] <derrickw> Madpilot - i don't know about those, but i had an iriver h320 and i loved the thing. i wholeheartedly back iriver
[10:02] <derrickw> much better product than an ipod for the money
[10:02] <Tuntis> So, erm, where do I get an correct bootdisk?
[10:02] <HappyFool> linux_newb: then 'kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vml<TAB>'
[10:02] <linux_newb> Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83
[10:03] <HappyFool> linux_newb: great
[10:03] <Madpilot> derrickw: do all the iRiver players do .ogg? (what about .flac?)
[10:03] <Tuntis> I just gave up on booting with the usb external drive
[10:03] <HappyFool> that's an ell, not a one
[10:03] <Tuntis> ** Now to find that goddamn right boot disk **
[10:03] <MenZa`> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98306 <- Ouch, someone help this guy...
[10:03] <owner989> tuntis http://www.bootdisk.com/
[10:04] <owner989> they have winxp bootdisks there
[10:04] <owner989> or whatever you need
[10:04] <Tuntis> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98306 <- aaaahha...
[10:04] <linux_newb> ok so it addedpossible files are config.............. memtest...... vmlinuz.... system.map..... initrd,img
[10:05] <HappyFool> linux_newb: vmlinuz is what you want
[10:05] <owner989> lol tuntis
[10:05] <HappyFool> linux_newb:    kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz<TAB>    should pick the image
[10:05] <holycow> MenZa`, whats to help, he is installing it on a 233mmx box
[10:06] <Tuntis> Yup
[10:06] <holycow> he aint gonna do shit on that, never mind gimp
[10:06] <kori> cc
[10:06] <Tuntis> That could run X11, maybe?
[10:06] <holycow> and HE BOUGHT ubuntu on ebay
[10:06] <holycow> wtf?
[10:06] <HiddenWolf> Xfce would even be painfull on that.
[10:06] <MenZa`> holycow: yeah, I saw that thread the other day ;)
[10:06] <holycow> he deserves to be banished to using windows xp forever
[10:06] <owner989> i thought they mailed cds for free
[10:06] <owner989> lol
[10:06] <HiddenWolf> holycow, well, it makes people feel better to buy stuff, less deviant and shit. :)
[10:06] <MenZa`> but no, he didnt buy it on ebay
[10:06] <Tuntis> Maybe some foolidiot sold an Shipit cd?
[10:06] <HiddenWolf> owner989, they do, doesn't prevent you from selling it. :)
[10:07] <linux_newb> its saying unrecognized command
[10:07] <MenZa`> "I searched around and found this site and downloaded the install ISO. Formatted an Old MMX233 and loaded up the Ubuntu (5.10). "
[10:07] <HiddenWolf> Tuntis, there are several companies that take your money for cd's
[10:07] <owner989> it sounds like it didnt install properly either
[10:07] <owner989> his xserver-xorg is missing
[10:07] <owner989> lol
[10:08] <HappyFool> linux_newb: hmm. how about     kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-386    ?
[10:08] <Madpilot> Tuntis: there are always Ubuntu CDs on EBay
[10:08] <MenZa`> I've got 100 shipit cds on my way, imagine how much money I could actually make from that..
[10:08] <linux_newb> "error1: Filename must be either and absolute pathname or blocklist"
[10:08] <MenZa`> But why? Ubuntu is FREE. For a reason.
[10:08] <MenZa`> "AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!"
[10:08] <MenZa`> :\
[10:09] <pppoe_dude> hi i need help with mplayer... getting a weird error msg, plz see http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/448090
[10:09] <HiddenWolf> MenZa`, it's not forbidden to make money off it. and if you can pay 5 dollars to get the cd's next week instead of next month, might be worth it. :)
[10:09] <pppoe_dude> if u need me to post the whole thing i will
[10:09] <Tuntis> http://www.sysint.no/Nedlasting/MbrFix.htm <- ermh, could this work?
[10:09] <MenZa`> HiddenWolf: Every penny I have I gotta spend on presents :\
[10:09] <HiddenWolf> pppoe_dude, pastebin
[10:09] <MenZa`> Else, I would ;)
[10:09] <pppoe_dude> HiddenFly, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/448090
[10:10] <MenZa`> but HiddenWolf: In my personal opinion, I belive it's wrong to profit on a linux os
[10:10] <HiddenWolf> MenZa`, canonical didn't develop it out of charity, you know
[10:10] <Madpilot> MenZa`: the Ubuntu CDs seem to go for between 3 & 5 bucks on EBay - that might cover a few presents ;)
[10:10] <HiddenWolf> They intend to make money, and they will.
[10:10] <MenZa`> True.
[10:10] <Tuntis> lol, I saw one big store selling RedHat 9 personal here in Finland
[10:10] <jenda> MenZa`: I think it's not wrong. You always support the community by that.
[10:10] <MenZa`> Madpilot: I have 7 atm ;)
[10:10] <HappyFool> linux_newb: ok, let's try this one more time
[10:11] <MenZa`> jenda: Just my personal opinion.
[10:11] <HiddenWolf> Tuntis, here in holland every major bookstore sells at least a few linux flavors
[10:11] <redson> does anyone here use Monopod?
[10:11] <HappyFool> linux_newb: 'kernel /boot/vmlinuz-'  then press <TAB>
[10:11] <MenZa`> But I see where you're getting at, with it profiting the development
[10:11] <Tuntis> But, Redhat 9 Personal isn't supported anymore...
[10:11] <holycow> HiddenWolf, when i was in amsterdam i was amazed at the number of linux mags in the stores
[10:11] <HiddenWolf> MenZa`, think of it this way. Buying it gives it credibility in the eyes of the average consumer.
[10:11] <MenZa`> Agreed :o
[10:11] <HappyFool> linux_newb: that should complete to something like 'kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-386' -- if it doesn't, I don't know what's going on
[10:11] <HiddenWolf> holycow, cool, isn't it? :)
[10:12] <linux_newb> yes it has the numbers
[10:12] <holycow> what, amsterdam or linux?
[10:12] <HappyFool> ok
[10:12] <holycow> ;)
[10:12] <dosle> I just installed ClamAV, where should i expect to see the application so i can use it or is it a manual program list addition?
[10:12] <HappyFool> linux_newb: now press <enter> -- does it give an error ?
[10:12] <HiddenWolf> MenZa`, I'd rather see canonical make a shitload of money off ubuntu, and attract more developers because of it, than have it ideologically pure.
[10:12] <linux_newb> yeah it says unrecognized
[10:12] <calc> being able to actually sell linux requires that the dist do something worth paying for, which is useful in the long run
[10:12] <HappyFool> dosle: i think it's mostly used from the command-line
[10:12] <HappyFool> linux_newb: hmm
[10:12] <dosle> HappyFool, alrighty thanls
[10:13] <HiddenWolf> holycow, well, both, of course. :)
[10:13] <dosle> *thanks
[10:13] <HappyFool> linux_newb: i'm out of ideas
[10:13] <pppoe_dude> ******** WARNING: vpkg_length=2863 > len=906 ********, then ******** !!!!!!!! BUG!! len=906 !!!!!!!!!!! ********
[10:13] <holycow> HiddenWolf, lol, amsterdam is now my fav city in the whole world
[10:13] <MenZa`> I'm just gonna go sell a few ubuntu cds on ebay then - if I get a large surplus, I'm donating :)
[10:13] <HappyFool> linux_newb: i guess you can try reinstalling
[10:13] <redson> does anyone here happen use Monopod?
[10:13] <HappyFool> linux_newb: or ask in here again later
[10:13] <holycow> HiddenWolf, as an aside debians social licence and ubuntu's pragmatism are not mutually exclusive, both can benefit i think
[10:13] <linux_newb> "error1: Filename must be either and absolute pathname or blocklist"
[10:14] <linux_newb> is what it says if i press tab again
[10:14] <holycow> provided ubuntu keeps on giving back to debian, it is going to be a very healthy endeavour i think
[10:14] <linux_newb> ok well thanks very much
[10:14] <owner989> debian sid is too unstable for everyday use
[10:14] <HiddenWolf> holycow, of course. ubuntu pushes a lot upstream, Most devels are DD's. Debian has improved a lot as well.
[10:14] <HappyFool> linux_newb: if it completes to a filename, you don't need to press <TAB> again
[10:14] <owner989> the apt-get upgrade is broken
[10:14] <Hiddenbug> owner989, thats why I use dapper instead ;p
[10:14] <owner989> ubuntu breezy is the right way
[10:14] <pppoe_dude> sarge is really good tho
[10:15] <holycow> HiddenWolf, i was hoping to see debian development speed increase, although i don't see much evidence of that beyond patches so far :/
[10:15] <HiddenWolf> owner989, problem with debian is, they're not a team. They don't get together and tackle a hard issue in a few days, but they let it go on.
[10:15] <holycow> we shall see
[10:15] <owner989> i agree hidden
[10:15] <owner989> ubuntu adds polish to debian
[10:15] <holycow> HiddenWolf, i think i'm going to try and hook up with some ubuntu/debian folks next time i'm in amsterdam :)
[10:15] <Tuntis> Hey
[10:15] <Hiddenbug> ubuntu adds a wake up call to debian
[10:15] <Tuntis> http://www.sysint.no/Nedlasting/MbrFix.htm <- would this work?
[10:15] <HiddenWolf> holycow, it increases due to the amount of patches pushed upstream, but the system is fundamentally not suited to the speed and goal-oriented development like ubuntu is.
[10:16] <HiddenWolf> holycow, drop by in -nl when you do. ;)
[10:16] <holycow> owner989, indeed, the desktop workload requires quite a bit of elbow grease, it isn't easy to get debian to be as smooth as ubuntu if you are starting with say sarge
[10:16] <holycow> HiddenWolf, :) right on
[10:16] <holycow> hehe
[10:17] <calc> the main problem with debian is its bureaucracy
[10:17] <HiddenWolf> holycow, imagine all DD's come together for a development status meeting. :D
[10:17] <holycow> not imho ...
[10:17] <holycow> imho debian doesn't have a problem that needs solved
[10:17] <holycow> what debian has is a whole lot of misunderstanding
[10:17] <holycow> people want debian to be a desktop, but its not designed for that, its far more generic than that
[10:17] <holycow> a desktop is a very specific instance of what debian is
[10:17] <HiddenWolf> holycow, right on.
[10:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> IMO Debian should not release
[10:18] <calc> debian continues to have serious bureaucracy issues
[10:18] <holycow> also debian supports A LOT of architectures, thats a bitch any way you slice it
[10:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> should just exist as unstable, testing and stable
[10:18] <calc> which tends to lead to people quitting, see chip
[10:18] <holycow> fuck, microfucks can't release windows on one platform, and thats just an os, not 16000 apps simultaneously on what 11 arch's
[10:18] <HiddenWolf> holycow, watch it.
[10:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> holycow: it's over 18000 isnt it?
[10:19] <HiddenWolf> Kamping_Kaiser, about 18k, yeah
[10:19] <nalioth_zZz> ubotu: tell holycow about coc
[10:19] <ajmitch> nalioth_zZz: keeping them in line, I see :)
[10:20] <HiddenWolf> This is a family channel, my childen! Be good, or be banned. :)
[10:20] <ajmitch> HiddenWolf: yessir :)
[10:20] <Tuntis> Chi...childen? What does that mean? :(
[10:21] <mrkoje> off topic... but wow.. a dell 30" lcd!
[10:21] <Sneaky_Bastard> leenooks works on everything from wristwatches (IBM demo) to phones to settop boxes to smart missles to space shuttle experiments all the way up to mainframes and clustered super-duper-computers
[10:21] <Sneaky_Bastard> windows works on what ?
[10:21] <Sneaky_Bastard> oh wait, windows doesn't actually work :p
[10:21] <calc> mrkoje: just after i bought two 23" lcds too :\
[10:22] <HiddenWolf> I've got a 24" myself
[10:22] <Madpilot> mrkoje: for how much? (almost scared to ask...)
[10:22] <calc> of course 30" would have required i buy a new system since they require dual link dvi
[10:22] <mrkoje> calc: I've had the dell 24" for 6 months... but I want the damn 30" now
[10:22] <HiddenWolf> it's already big enough to make me turn my head.
[10:22] <calc> mrkoje: my 23" come in a few days
[10:22] <HiddenWolf> mrkoje, what's the resolution?
[10:22] <mrkoje> no price yet... not released until dec 21
[10:22] <calc> HiddenWolf: 2560x1600 (same as apple)
[10:22] <mrkoje> 25xx x 19xx
[10:22] <mrkoje> oh ok 1600
[10:22] <owner989> lcd screens are great
[10:22] <Madpilot> mrkoje: mmm, nice bit of pre-Xmas impulse shopping! :P
[10:23] <mrkoje> madpilot... no kidding I think my family is going to have to go with out this year
[10:23] <Tuntis> ERM
[10:23] <Tuntis> Hello?!
[10:23] <mrkoje> lol they would kill me
[10:23] <HiddenWolf> Heh, I'll stick to 24" for a bit. My geforce6600 has trouble gaming on it already. :)
[10:23] <owner989> hi tuntis
[10:23] <Tuntis> How can I exactly "kill" grub and replace it with NTLoader from Windows XP
[10:23] <mrkoje> my wife already thinks it is ridiculous to have the 24
[10:23] <owner989> fdisk /mbr
[10:23] <Tuntis> and there is an fdisk in winblows?
[10:23] <calc> HiddenWolf: you could do 1280x800 without problem on the 30" ;)
[10:24] <owner989> of course
[10:24] <Tuntis> and that is a pretty-much-like-safe method?
[10:24] <HiddenWolf> calc, yeah, but that'd be so not cool. :)
[10:24] <calc> nice and divisible by 2 both ways so no degradation
[10:24] <owner989> yes tuntis
[10:25] <calc> Tuntis: fdisk /mbr might do it from a dos bootdisk
[10:25] <owner989> or even a bootcd
[10:25] <calc> sorry i see someone else said that
[10:25] <HiddenWolf> Tuntis, or just put in a windows install cd.
[10:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> tunis, if you have xp you can use the install cd to fixmbr
[10:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> (i hear)
[10:25] <Tuntis> Except that my XP cd is still magically an upgrade cd
[10:25] <HiddenWolf> go to rescue mode, and fixmbr
[10:26] <Tuntis> So I execute fdisk /mbr in a dos prompt
[10:26] <Tuntis> ?
[10:26] <calc> Tuntis: the fixmbr from a cd sounds safer if you have the disc
[10:26] <owner989> Tuntis http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=310994
[10:26] <owner989> you can use that
[10:27] <Tuntis> excuse me, does that *beep* thing have 6 disks?!
[10:27] <Tuntis> anyways I don't believe that it boots an upgrade cd
[10:27] <Tuntis> as it's an windows application in it
[10:28] <owner989> tuntis the windows boot disk set has all the tools
[10:28] <owner989> like fdisk
[10:28] <owner989> it can also read ntfs partitions
[10:29] <calc> i'm pretty sure the upgrade cd is bootable also
[10:29] <calc> but you have to set cd to boot first and hit a key when it tells you to during boot up
[10:29] <Tuntis> Erm, no it isn't.
[10:30] <calc> hmm i thought i had booted an xp upgrade cd in the past, i may be mistaken
[10:31] <Tuntis> well let's go try it.
[10:34] <Tuntis> no luck
[10:34] <Tuntis> It pretty much looks like that there must be an fdisk in windows and I need to do it via Winblows.
[10:35] <Starfire> did you boot off of a floppy or flashdrive and do fdisk /mbr in the command line?
[10:35] <Tuntis> eh, no
[10:35] <Tuntis> I tried to boot off the upgrade xp cdf
[10:35] <Tuntis> *cd
[10:35] <Starfire> that won't work
[10:35] <Tuntis> exactly.
[10:35] <Starfire> www.bootdisk.com
[10:36] <owner989> exactly starfire
[10:36] <owner989> thats what i told him
[10:36] <Starfire> get a windows boot floppy, boot off of it, and do fdisk /mbr and your problem is solved
[10:36] <Starfire> i've done it several times to getg rid of LILO
[10:37] <Tuntis> Erm, are you sure they can write to an NTFS disk's MBR?
[10:38] <owner989> if you download the xp set
[10:38] <owner989> yes
[10:38] <calc> afaict fixmbr and fdisk are not on the windows install itself
[10:38] <calc> Tuntis: mbr is in sector 0 it is not fs specific
[10:40] <Tuntis> Okokokok
[10:40] <Tuntis> The PROBLEM here is that my floppy disk drive doesn't work
[10:40] <Starfire> use a flashdrive then
[10:42] <Starfire> also, what's with the ACPI module not throttling my cpu down? my fan is constantly running on my laptop.
[10:42] <indypende> hi all
[10:42] <ogg> anyone know which packages is installed with the 'server' install of breezy. is there any list.
[10:42] <Tuntis> Don't have one, unless an memory card reader can be one.
[10:43] <owner989> the best idea is to make a boot cd
[10:43] <owner989> works like a boot disk
[10:43] <[raekw0n] > how do I install ubuntu 5.10 when I get sata_sil error (amd duron processor)
[10:44] <Tuntis> er
[10:44] <Tuntis> 1) The link for the XP bootdisks again 2) How do I make it a bootdisk?
[10:44] <Tuntis> (Can't have enough of blank cd-r's.)
[10:47] <Madpilot> Tuntis: sets of 50 CD-Rs are a Good Thing ;)
[10:47] <t4k3r0n> hi
[10:47] <Tuntis> yeah...
[10:47] <owner989> http://www.nu2.nu/bootcd/
[10:49] <t4k3r0n> #ubuntu-es uya con eso tendre bien el mapa para ya poder teklear las letras en la pantalla de bienvenida
[10:49] <Starfire> damnit, the kernel devs need to work more on the ACPI modules
[10:49] <deFrysk> Cturtle, ?
[10:49] <Tuntis> ^^ In English?
[10:49] <Tuntis> Aha
[10:49] <Cturtle> Jip
[10:50] <iustin> does anybody know if i can manage to mount and acces other partitions without beeing logged as root/sudo ?
[10:51] <cast> iustin: use fstab?
[10:51] <Starfire> fstab, ftw
[10:51] <iustin> i heard about fstab
[10:51] <iustin> but i don`t know what to tyoe in there
[10:51] <Tuntis>  http://www.nu2.nu/bootcd/ <- what do I exactly take from there?
[10:51] <cast> man fstab and man mount should do
[10:52] <cast> you might want the 'user' option
[10:52] <iustin> ok ... from boot, everytime ... every user can acces ?
[10:52] <cast> should be, or it might just be the user thatm ounted it first? [cant remember, could fix that with permissions perhaps?] 
[10:53] <owner989> tuntis you can try this http://www.ubcd4win.com/downloads.htm
[10:53] <SimpleAONE> hi
[10:53] <iustin> thanx for the help!!
[10:54] <Tuntis> erm, owner989
[10:54] <ogg> anyone know which packages is installed with the 'server' install of breezy. is there any list.
[10:54] <Tuntis> UBCD4Win?
[10:54] <SimpleAONE> anyone has problems with Ubuntu and latest ATI 3D drivers ?
[10:54] <Madpilot> ogg: you might want to ask on #ubuntu-devel
[10:55] <Tuntis> owner?
[10:55] <owner989> tuntis all you need is a way to boot up and run fdisk
[10:55] <owner989> so a bootcd is a good idea
[10:55] <Tuntis> UARGHH, GOING TO TOILET
[10:55] <Tuntis> faastt!!11
[10:55] <owner989> but it needs to have fdisk
[10:58] <thierry_> hi all
[10:58] <thierry_> does anybody knows what is "i2c" in xorg.conf ? is it useful ? necessary ? for what ?
[10:59] <Tuntis> Aaalright
[10:59] <Tuntis> erm
[10:59] <cast> i2c reminds me of sensors
[10:59] <Tuntis> I'll just take...?
[10:59] <Tuntis> UBCD4Win?
[10:59] <owner989> actually
[10:59] <owner989> there is http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[10:59] <owner989> which seems more appropriate but i dont see fdisk
[11:00] <owner989> included
[11:00] <thierry_> cast: sensors ? input device you mean ?
[11:00] <dosle> I've just gotten apache2 up and running, but im unable to create folders myself.  no access privs to it.  i've been CP-ing w/ sudo to the apache folder.  is there a better way?
[11:00] <drumline> sudo -i
[11:00] <Tuntis> Erh, I don't see FDISK in UBCD4Win either
[11:00] <drumline> that'll get your root privs
[11:00] <Tuntis> "list of tools"
[11:00] <dosle> ah thanks
[11:01] <Starfire> Tuntis: you can get a fdisk.exe file from www.bootdisk.com it'll be in a zip file
[11:01] <owner989> yes starfire
[11:01] <owner989> he just needs the xp fdisk
[11:01] <drumline> Just wanted to say that I love Ubuntu and I love this #channel.  :)  Thanks folks.
[11:01] <owner989> its only a small file
[11:01] <dosle> drumline,  is there another way for the GUI aspect of drag/dropping files to apache?
[11:01] <dosle> indeed it is a helpful channel for those roadbumps
[11:01] <calc> thierry_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I2C
[11:02] <Tuntis> So Starfire, I waste an cd-r to burn an FDISK.exe to an cd, and then I can boot from the cd?
[11:02] <Toma-> Tuntis: what are you trying to do?
[11:02] <Tuntis> Toma-, I need to kill grub from my first drive's MBR
[11:02] <Tuntis> (fdisk /mbr)
[11:03] <thierry_> calc: thanks, I read this
[11:03] <Toma-> can you boot winxp?
[11:03] <Tuntis> ofcourse
[11:03] <Tuntis> I'm in it now
[11:03] <Tuntis> the problem is that I won't be deleting my old Kubuntu installation before grub is off
[11:03] <Toma-> Tuntis: goto recovery mode and run "fixmbr"
[11:04] <deimos_> Siema
[11:04] <deimos_> mam problem
[11:04] <Toma-> or u may be able to just run it now
[11:04] <Tuntis> And how the h*** do you expect for me to run it from grub?
[11:04] <deimos_> naprawde ciki wic si skupcie
[11:04] <Toma-> Tuntis: you run it from windows xp
[11:04] <Toma-> itll reinstall the windows boot loader
[11:04] <Tuntis> how?
[11:04] <Tuntis> I tried Microsoft's instructions to install recovery console, it couldn't install it (thanks grub)
[11:05] <Toma-> Tuntis: click start>run>cmd.exe i think
[11:05] <cast> weren't you guys talking about this when i went out to get pizza ages ago?
[11:05] <Toma-> youll get a windows terminal
[11:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol yep
[11:05] <deimos_> mam ubuntu i nie wiem jak zainstalowa plik ktry scignlem "bittorrnet" pod linuxa jaka komenda gdzie komu za co ? M'kay
[11:05] <Tuntis> cast, if you're talking about my case, i'm justa noob.
[11:05] <Tuntis> *just a
[11:05] <Tuntis> Toma, the problem is the people here recommend me to use fdisk from a bootdisk
[11:06] <cast> Tuntis: so what was the original problem? you want to kill grub..but why :p
[11:06] <Toma-> Tuntis: all you need to do is reinstall a boot loader?
[11:06] <Tuntis> Toma-, WinXP default.
[11:06] <Toma-> ok. hang on a sec
[11:06] <Tuntis> Cast, because I don't want the Ubuntu install to mess out with grub to existing grub
[11:06] <Tuntis> I'd rather not take risks here
[11:06] <owner989> grub just overwrites grub
[11:07] <owner989> no harm is done
[11:07] <drumline> dosle: still there?
[11:07] <cast> Tuntis: ahh. i see. so your going to install ubuntu and you dont want it checking for a existing boot loader ?
[11:07] <owner989> ubuntu just overwrites grub with grub again
[11:07] <owner989> ive done it many times
[11:07] <Tuntis> I want it to do it EXACTLY like instructed in that fancy geocities dualboot site
[11:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> just copy menu.list aside
[11:07] <Tuntis> I just don't... want it overwriting the grub
[11:07] <Tuntis> AND
[11:07] <Tuntis> there's one more problem
[11:07] <owner989> why not tuntis?
[11:08] <dosle> drumline,  yeah im here
[11:08] <Tuntis> I think that it would install a piece of grub to the ext2 usb external-partition and that's going to get wiped
[11:08] <Toma-> Tuntis: have you run fixmbr yet?
[11:08] <drumline> dosle: go to the K, Internet, Web Browser (konquerer)... right click and run as a different user... try root and your root pass....   that works for me, but again, I set my root password in single user mode, so if that doesn't work, I'd recommend setting your root password.
[11:08] <Tuntis> No because I have no idea where I could do so
[11:08] <Tuntis> My floppy drive is f...ed
[11:08] <owner989> he is trouble getting a boot cd
[11:08] <Toma-> Tuntis: youve never run the cmd command before on windows?
[11:08] <owner989> he just needs a boot cd with xp fdisk on it
[11:09] <Tuntis> Toma-, nooo
[11:09] <Toma-> fdisk doesnt install a boot loader
[11:09] <Tuntis> (I have)
[11:09] <Tuntis> Oh damnit this is getting damn weird
[11:09] <Tuntis> I'm, like, a "pro" on Windows side but on Linux, you want to scream "TUNTIS, NOOOO!!!"
[11:09] <Toma-> Tuntis: http://www.neowin.net/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t292614.html
[11:10] <Toma-> Tuntis: if your a windows pro, u should know how to get a command prompt up on xp :)
[11:10] <Tuntis> I know that.
[11:10] <dosle> drumline, i see what that would solve but my issue is a bit different i think.  I just want to be able to drag and drop the .html into the directory
[11:10] <tobi-wan> hoi folks. i am considering switching to dapper drake... is this a) possible, b) a good idea, c) doable via editing sources.list breezy -> drapper ?
[11:10] <Tuntis> The problem is the people here and neither me trust really on fixing the mbr inside windows
[11:10] <ximenes> Windows fdisk /mbr used to rewrite the MBR. I don't think XP does though.
[11:10] <Starfire> how do i go about throttling my CPU down so my fan isn't always on my laptop
[11:10] <Tuntis> Your Neowin link still can't help me...
[11:10] <Tuntis> I have an Upgrade cd
[11:11] <Toma-> Tuntis: have you got an install cd?
[11:11] <dosle> for 'var/www/my_folder_i_created' i can't drop files in it
[11:11] <Starfire> download an install cd
[11:11] <Tuntis> Nope
[11:11] <Tuntis> So, we're speaking of illegal activities now?
[11:11] <drumline> dosle: konquerer is how you can drag and drop it...    either that or select them all and copy, then paste it...
[11:11] <drumline> open up two konquerer's and drag em
[11:11] <dosle> oh ok
[11:11] <maruchan> quick question messing around with installed the kde package to see what it looks like. .how do i change themese
[11:11] <hhurtta> Tuntis: it's not illegal if you don't install from it
[11:11] <hhurtta> :)
[11:12] <maruchan> the menus adn stuff are to diffuclt to mange
[11:12] <Tuntis> Wait a second, my friend is sending some fancy "OWNED!!" psp7 made windows background images, i'm gonna photoshop something absolutely cool to him ->>
[11:12] <dosle> thanks drumline
[11:12] <drumline> dosle: did that work?
[11:12] <cast> hhurtta: i believe its copyright infringement, i wasnt aware it wasnt copyright infringement if you didnt use it ;p
[11:12] <dosle> no, i don't have konqueror but i will go about getting it
[11:13] <Tuntis> Well, I can't be like "never-downloaded-illegal-stuff-before" either :/
[11:13] <drumline> dosle: oh yeah...  this in the Gnome side of things...   umm...  Nautalis is the gnome FM right?
[11:13] <holycow> .
[11:13] <hhurtta> cast: I guess you're right
[11:13] <drumline> dosle: try it with the Gnome File Man
[11:14] <[cro] smiley> hi all
[11:14] <holycow> drumline, correct
[11:14] <[cro] smiley> is there any program that can limit your download
[11:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi holycow
[11:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi [cro] smiley
[11:14] <hhurtta> i just think that bending rules for need every now and then isn't that bad
[11:14] <holycow> hi Kamping_Kaiser
[11:14] <dosle> drumline: is that in a menu as well?  not seeing it
[11:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> [cro] smiley: bandwidth?
[11:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> try shaperd (not used it myself)
[11:15] <[cro] smiley> Kamping_Kaiser ADSL i u mean that
[11:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> give shaperd a shot, but if you find something good, let me know :)
[11:15] <drumline> dosle: probably in one of the pulldowns from the top...    I don't have much experience with Gnome, I'm more attracted to KDE.
[11:16] <dosle> perhaps i should work on moving to KDE then ;)
[11:16] <dosle> thanks for the help then.  i appreciate it
[11:16] <poningru> dosle: what are you trying to do?
[11:16] <Tuntis> back
[11:16] <drumline> dosle: if you want...  I think you should at least try it and make your decision afterwards.
[11:16] <Tuntis> Alright people
[11:17] <holycow> Kamping_Kaiser, wanted to say thanks once again for digging up that info about sharing files between users ... gonna give that a shot next week as i'm expanding my desktop pilots now
[11:17] <dosle> poningru, just unable to drag .html's from /desktop to /var/www/ but no permission
[11:17] <drumline> poningru: he wants to drag and drop files without having to type the root password every time
[11:17] <holycow> i don't know if it works, i'll letcha know :)
[11:17] <Tuntis> So you are saying, that I could just start installing Ubuntu and it would kill grub, destroy the ubuntu usb external part of grub's settings and install everything normally?
[11:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> holycow: no worries, if it goes well let me know :)
[11:17] <poningru> ah ic nm
[11:17] <dosle> i just think its odd if im creating the sub directories in /var/www/my_site i can't have permissions
[11:18] <poningru> why not just set that folder as yours?
[11:18] <drumline> dosle: here's what I'd do.   Open a root shell and do it on the command line  :)
[11:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> dosle: chown yourname.yourname /var/www/my_site ?
[11:18] <holycow> Kamping_Kaiser, yeah if it works i'll put up a tut on the wiki, it's something fairly important imho
[11:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> thanks. :)
[11:18] <poningru> dosle: yeah do what Kamping_Kaiser is asking you to do
[11:18] <cast> dosle: read what ls -l tells you, itll probably become obvious
[11:18] <drumline> dosle: poningru's suggestion should work
[11:18] <dosle> aha that should do it, i was fooling with CHMOD
[11:18] <dosle> thats what i was trying to think of earlier
[11:19] <dosle> got them mixed up earlier
[11:19] <drumline> dosle:  Don't change the group though.. .just the user.
[11:19] <dosle> right.
[11:19] <drumline> cool..
[11:19] <dosle> nice!
[11:19] <poningru> dosle: chmod xx7 /var/www/my_site
[11:19] <dosle> that did it, hooray
[11:20] <poningru> that is how you would have done with chmod btw
[11:20] <pepsi> this is silly.. ijust signed up for every mailing list at lists.ubuntu.com
[11:20] <pepsi> im being bombarded with email :P
[11:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> pepsi: that is silly :|
[11:20] <pepsi> heh
[11:20] <poningru> just something for you to know for future reference
[11:20] <poningru> pepsi: drink some coke?
[11:20] <pepsi> ok
[11:20] <tobi-wan> can someone please point me to a link to the dapper repositories? i've troubles locating them
[11:21] <poningru> archive.ubuntu.org
[11:21] <Madpilot> tobi-wan: please read the /topic before messing with dapper...
[11:21] <ajmitch> hi pitti :)
[11:21] <poningru> tobi-wan: what are you trying to do?
[11:21] <drumline> dasle: the chmod method opens the directory up to any other local user on that box.  Just be aware of that.
[11:21] <tobi-wan> Madpilot: eh... thanks, that's what i always forget... *sigh*
[11:21] <dosle> thanks Kamping_Kaiser and drumline  and poningru
[11:21] <drumline> dosle: the chown method locks the directory only to you.
[11:21] <poningru> yep
[11:21] <cyphase> why doesn't ubuntu include ndis wireless drivers with ndiswrapper?
[11:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> np dosle. any time
[11:22] <tobi-wan> poningru: well, trying it out :-)
[11:22] <[cro] smiley> how can i limit my download
[11:22] <cyphase> or is that against most drivers EULA..
[11:22] <poningru> tobi-wan: oh hehe
[11:22] <poningru> tobi-wan: make sure to do what Madpilot said
[11:22] <poningru> :)
[11:22] <tobi-wan> i've read that it isn't broken (in some review), so i decided to give it a spin, but obviously....
[11:22] <Madpilot> cyphase: it's almost certainly a copyright/license issue...
[11:22] <poningru> [cro] smiley: in what software?
[11:22] <cyphase> Madpilot, suppose you got permission..
[11:23] <poningru> cycom: then yes if the mfg & the chipset mfg said its ok I am pretty sure that would be ok
[11:23] <cyphase> lol
[11:23] <poningru> err cyphase
[11:23] <poningru> yeah
[11:23] <cyphase> why do people call me cycom
[11:23] <cyphase> :)
[11:23] <binks> morning all
[11:24] <binks> :):)
[11:24] <poningru> cause auto complete tabs to the first guy
[11:24] <poningru> err nick
[11:24] <cyphase> lol
[11:24] <binks> thats how i feel about my ubuntu system (new install)
[11:24] <cyphase> cyphase is now known cyahase
[11:24] <cyphase> ;)
[11:25] <pppoe_dude> is there a way to dump a stream from real player?
[11:26] <poningru> as in save it?
[11:26] <poningru> to file?
[11:26] <pppoe_dude> poningru yes
[11:26] <[cro] smiley> poningru in all, i need a program that would track my total download on computer
[11:26] <binks> i spent all day yesterday wasting time installing gentoo but why i ask myself
[11:26] <sorush20> iface? what does it mean?
[11:26] <drumline> smiley: mrtg
[11:26] <drumline> although, that's a nasty way to do it.
[11:27] <drumline> binks: WHY?
[11:27] <drumline> binks: what's Gentoo's claim to fame?
[11:27] <cast> pppoe_dude: mencoder/mplayer will dump rm streams
[11:27] <binks> in 2 hours this morning ive reinstalled ubuntu upgraded kernel to 1686 fixed mr mtrr prob with ati drivers and installed avidemux
[11:27] <cast> drumline: that it takes days to install a full desktop system!
[11:27] <drumline> cast: I'm told that mplayer is in the repos.  Where is it hiding?
[11:27] <pppoe_dude> cast, well aware of that, however on my comp mplayer is very buggy
[11:27] <binks> i dont no like i said wasted my time
[11:27] <n0cturnal> iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING --dst 172.22.233.10 -p tcp --dport 22 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.15.128 <-- should this work?
[11:27] <drumline> cast: holy moly...  full build from source?
[11:28] <cast> i..build from source
[11:28] <pppoe_dude> i get errors you can see in http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/448090
[11:28] <drumline> cast: ahh.. OK...
[11:29] <drumline> n0cturnal: isn't there the ability to use a config file?
[11:29] <cast> mplayers legally questionable selection of codecs means only a somewhat reduced version would make it into your repo's
[11:29] <pppoe_dude> cast, i actually installed the codecs from mplayerhq...
[11:29] <n0cturnal> drumline: sorry?
[11:29] <Madpilot> drumline: use Synaptic and search for mplayer - there's lots of versions...
[11:29] <morzel> hi all
[11:29] <pppoe_dude> cast, although you might be right
[11:29] <drumline> cast: ahh...  heh.. ."legally questionable"    I take it mplayer uses codecs that MS doesn't want used anywhere else?
[11:29] <morzel> how can I create zip from folder?
[11:30] <morzel> i tried zip -r foldername
[11:30] <pppoe_dude> this is crazy... i need to record a lecture arghhh
[11:30] <drumline> pppoe: there's a sound recorder in KDE... that's all I know.
[11:30] <Madpilot> morzel: Applications menu - Accessories - Archive Manager
[11:30] <Tuntis> Oh damnit
[11:30] <morzel> i will see
[11:30] <pppoe_dude> is there something like apt but that compiles from source? takes care of dependencies, etc...
[11:31] <poningru> morzel: try tar -cvf xxxx.tar boing/
[11:31] <Tuntis> I'm just going to install ubuntu just-like-that and let it install grub again
[11:31] <kevix> pppoe_dude: apt-src ?
[11:31] <poningru> where the xxx.tar is the name of your tar file and the boing is the folder you want tarred
[11:31] <cast> drumline: well, the question is where did all the .dll's come from
[11:31] <pppoe_dude> kevix, however you still get a source "package" from that...
[11:31] <pppoe_dude> is there a more universal tool..?
[11:32] <drumline> MadPilot: I must be using the wrong repos.  I've enabled ALL of the ones that were in the apt config file and I still only get two results on mplayer searches.
[11:32] <pppoe_dude> drumline, you prolly need the nermin/marillat one
[11:32] <drumline> cast: wow...  there are .dll's in the packages?  hahaha
[11:32] <poningru> pppoe_dude: I think apt-build
[11:32] <poningru> hold on
[11:32] <drumline> pppoe: repo?
[11:32] <james__> is it easy to get DDD and xemacs gui on ubuntu
[11:33] <cast> drumline: i doubt they'd be in your pkgs, they are on the mplayer site though in .tar.gz [iirc?] 
[11:33] <pppoe_dude> something like the garnome thing from gnome...
[11:33] <pppoe_dude> that would be awesome
[11:33] <poningru> pppoe_dude: dude use apt-build with synaptic
[11:33] <drumline> pppoe: nermin what?
[11:34] <pppoe_dude> drumline nermin sorry
[11:34] <pppoe_dude> drumline, want the address?
[11:34] <drumline> sure.  please.
[11:34] <Madpilot> !tell drumline about repos
[11:34] <pppoe_dude> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main
[11:34] <pppoe_dude> drumline, /\/\/\
[11:35] <morzel> poningru: thx
[11:35] <poningru> morzel: yep
[11:35] <pppoe_dude> drumline, you'll need a gpg key, go to http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&postid=1908818#post1908818 about halfway through the page
[11:35] <Madpilot> drumline: I just searched Synaptic, there's six or eight mplayer packages
[11:35] <poningru> morzel: oh and man tar
[11:35] <morzel> k
[11:35] <poningru> morzel: always good to look at man files
[11:35] <gib8> hallo
[11:35] <pppoe_dude> ill look into apt=build
[11:36] <drumline> Madpilot: we must have differing sources in the apt conf.
[11:36] <Madpilot> pppoe_dude: the mplayer stuff is all in Ubuntu's Multiverse
[11:36] <pppoe_dude> Madpilot... hmm
[11:36] <Madpilot> drumline: do you have Universe & Multiverse enabled?
[11:36] <drumline> Madpilot: yes. I have everything enabled.
[11:37] <gib8> knows someone from a problem with nvidia-drivers and usb under ubuntu?
[11:37] <pppoe_dude> Madpilot, i see...
[11:37] <pppoe_dude> you are right
[11:37] <Madpilot> drumline & pppoe_dude: search for mplayer here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[11:37] <gib8> i cant get my usb-devices running
[11:37] <pppoe_dude> and the w32codecs too
[11:38] <Madpilot> pppoe_dude & drumline: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=mplayer&searchon=names&subword=1&version=breezy&release=all
[11:38] <bibi> hi ya! I'm just a newbee on linux. Where can I find the packages for RAR files??
[11:38] <james__> ubuntu is soo hot
[11:38] <cast> bibi: unrar will..unrar them
[11:39] <kestas> rar will rar them
[11:39] <Madpilot> !rar
[11:39] <kestas> pretty crazy
[11:39] <ubotu> rar is probably a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression#head-32ba956d13d49934f65bf67dd40646653a7a6140
[11:39] <drgb> hi everyone, i'd like to raise my screen's resolution, i'm using 1024x768, and i can't set it higher, can someone help me?
[11:39] <pppoe_dude> nm, no w32codecs
[11:39] <cast> kestas: but why would anyone want to do that ;\
[11:39] <drumline> Madpilot: hmm...  weird...  that must be a different repo that it's searching.
[11:39] <kestas> drgb, man xrandr
[11:39] <drgb> thx kestas
[11:39] <kestas> or man xorg.conf
[11:39] <pppoe_dude> my head is itchy
[11:39] <Madpilot> drumline: check the msg ubotu sent you a while ago, and double-check your sources.list against it
[11:40] <bibi> ubotu: thanks for the url... i'll check it now
[11:40] <kestas> cast, I dont know, is rar compression better than bzip?
[11:40] <ubotu> no worries, bibi
[11:40] <Madpilot> ubotu tell bibi about ubotu
[11:40] <cast> kestas: hmm, ill have a look. regardless .tar.bz2 is preferable as rar is nonfree-ish
[11:40] <Madpilot> :)
[11:41] <pppoe_dude> !ubotu
[11:41] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[11:41] <poningru> how do you create rar files?
[11:41] <kestas> poningru, install rar, look at the ubuntu faq
[11:41] <poningru> cause stupid firefox extension is using rar files
[11:41] <binks> does anyone d/l using nzb files if so what app do u use
[11:42] <poningru> yeah I have that installed just wanted to know if its 100% compatible
[11:42] <bibi> XDDD he was a bot. fanzy, and very clever XDDD
[11:42] <poningru> cause that extension refused to take the rar
[11:43] <cast> kestas: hmm, wikipedia says rar can be better. it also says that lzma can be best *makes own investigation with kernel sources*
[11:43] <Tuntis> !tell tuntis -about kubuntu
[11:44] <poningru> wow its quiet today
[11:45] <pppoe_dude> wow almost 6am
[11:45] <Tuntis> Ok
[11:45] <Tuntis> Does anyone know, how I really, could, remove grub and get the ntloader back?
[11:46] <kestas> Tuntis, with the windows rescue cd
[11:46] <Tuntis> Don't have one
[11:46] <binks> tuntis boot ur xp cd select repair
[11:46] <kestas> Tuntis, but you can easily boot windows with grub
[11:46] <binks> then at promt rum fixmbr
[11:47] <binks> then take ur pc outside and burn it at the stake
[11:47] <drumline> Madpilot: yikes... I was missing a few...   Yet, synaptic whines about those lines...   *shrug*
[11:47] <Tuntis> I wonder how many times I have said this: 1) I have an upgrade cd 2) I'm removing it so that I could install Ubuntu again and remove the old kubuntu partition in safety
[11:47] <cast> ahh. tar zxf *.tar.gz; cd $_; dh_make; dpkg-buildpackage is so easy :)
[11:47] <gib8> in the devicemanager, do i have to have there for every usb-port an usb-controler showen?
[11:47] <sonium> is there a way to install ubuntu-server without physical access to the machine?
[11:48] <TheCount> hello - I went from Debian to Ubuntu, thus changed from XFree86 to Xorg .. Now my modeline for my SGI 1600W connected to the DVI-out of a Matrox G550 via a PIX-Link adapter doesn't seem to give the same output, and I don't get any picture anymore .. any ideas what to do?
[11:48] <TheCount> The logs look like the correct modeline was choosen etc, but the PIX-Link insist on 'Out of range', i.e. it is unable to sync on the DVI signal. Windows doesn't have any problems whatsoever, XFree86 didn't have any either.
[11:49] <bibi> Is there a way to assign the "WIN" key as a hotkey to open a BOX list of icons (that from gnome)??
[11:49] <cast> sonium: sure, though it would help if it had a nix already on there
[11:49] <binks> tuntis u mean u dont have a xp cd
[11:49] <cast> sonium: and that you had a spare partition :>
[11:50] <Madpilot> drumline: you're running 5.10 (Breezy), right?
[11:51] <Tuntis> Binks: Exactly
[11:51] <Tuntis> Well, an XP cd I could boot from
[11:51] <HiddenFly> pppoe_dude: watch your hilights :)
[11:52] <Tuntis> I guess it is hard to get grub off
[11:52] <binks> plz dont shout im tryin to help
[11:52] <Tuntis> Who is shouting?
[11:52] <TheCount> Tuntis: not at all
[11:52] <binks> if u dont have a xpcd yes difficult
[11:52] <cast> Tuntis: some days when i feel like toasting the MBR i use dd, though, one would have to be careful if one wanted to kill the bootloader without the partition table
[11:53] <Tuntis> Okokok
[11:53] <drumline> Madpilot: aha!   I was missing one of those that were in the pastebin..
[11:53] <Tuntis> Just tell me one THING
[11:53] <Tuntis> ONE thing.
[11:53] <Tuntis> If I install Ubuntu to my new partition
[11:53] <drumline> Madpilot: i guess Ubuntu can't provide a link to that repo in the distro?
[11:53] <binks> can u not borrow an xp cd
[11:53] <Tuntis> What does it do to the current grub?
[11:53] <Tuntis> Binks, no.
[11:53] <Madpilot> drumline: which repo?
[11:53] <binks> rewrite it
[11:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> Tuntis: removes it, and puts in a new one
[11:53] <Tuntis> Alright, but if it detects my old Kubuntu install, does it dualboot with it (too)?
[11:53] <Tuntis> (The answer I want is NO)
[11:54] <drumline> madpilot: I don't know yet..   one of the "community supported" ones listed in the ubotu pastebin link
[11:54] <binks> not if u choose to install over it
[11:54] <owner989> tuntis lol
[11:54] <TheCount> Tuntis: yes, no. if it does, edit the menu.lst
[11:54] <Storkme> how can i stop the ircd i just installed?? help. there's an ircd-irc2 in init.d but when i do "/etc/init.d/ircd-irc2 stop" it says "bash: ircd-irc2: command not found"
[11:54] <Madpilot> drumline: likely Multiverse - that's where all or most of the mplayer stuff is
[11:54] <Tuntis> Ok Ok Ok
[11:54] <Tuntis> So
[11:54] <bibi> QUESTION: Is there a way to assign the "WIN" key as a hotkey to open a BOX list of icons (that from gnome)??
[11:54] <Tuntis> What if I destroy the old kubuntu partitions?
[11:54] <TheCount> Storkme: some part of the path is wrong. try using sudo.
[11:54] <owner989> now that is a good question
[11:54] <Tuntis> Will the current Grub even boot?
[11:55] <Tuntis> (well Kubuntu didn't find the usb drive's partitions anyways)
[11:55] <TheCount> Tuntis: it will start, but won't have anything to load.
[11:55] <binks> what does ur drive look like ie hda1 ntfs hda3,hda4,hda5 linux
[11:55] <septox> someone know how to configure the source.list from breezy to install more packages, the connection always black at 36%
[11:55] <Tuntis> How so, I dualboot with XP?
[11:55] <drumline> Madpilot: all of my repos have us.archive.ubuntu...   you think the us.archive makes a difference?
[11:55] <drgb> guys, i tried to edit xorg.conf, but i had no results, does anybody know how to run the automatic configurator for the screen's resolution such as when you are installing ubuntu?
[11:55] <TheCount> Tuntis: XP will still work.
[11:55] <Tuntis> Now there's THIS problem
[11:55] <Madpilot> drumline: the us archive seems to have more trouble than the rest, for some reason. aside from that, it's identical, AFAIK
[11:56] <owner989> drgb sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:56] <Tuntis> Somehow Ubuntu managed to install menu.lst to the Kubuntu partition
[11:56] <owner989> run that
[11:56] <Storkme> alex@ubuntu:/etc/init.d$ sudo ircd-irc2
[11:56] <Storkme> sudo: ircd-irc2: command not found
[11:56] <Storkme> no luck
[11:56] <drgb> owner989, you own :D
[11:56] <Tuntis> So if I wipe the partition, grub is dead?
[11:56] <TheCount> Tuntis: nope.
[11:56] <bibi> ubotu :p: Is there a way to assign the "WIN" key as a hotkey to open a BOX list of icons (that from gnome)??
[11:56] <TheCount> Tuntis: and yes, yourr XP won't boot either
[11:57] <TheCount> Tuntis: (because the menu.lst and other stuff are gone)
[11:57] <drumline> Tuntis: what do you want to do?
[11:57] <Tuntis> So tell me, what do I need to do, to install Ubuntu without getting ntloader back first?
[11:57] <Tuntis> Install Ubuntu again to an IDE partition
[11:57] <owner989> just install ubuntu
[11:57] <TheCount> Tuntis: if you have a DOS/Win95/Win98 bootdisk, do an "fdisk /mbr
[11:57] <TheCount> Tuntis: if you have a DOS/Win95/Win98 bootdisk, do an "fdisk /mbr" from it.
[11:57] <owner989> just install ubuntu and let install the grub loader
[11:57] <drumline> tuntis: word to TheCount
[11:57] <poningru> TheCount: dude stop repeating yourself
[11:58] <drumline> a 98 boot disk is great sometimes
[11:58] <TheCount> poningru: dude calm down, I hit the return key to early and didn't want to split the sentence.
[11:58] <poningru> oh sorry I thought you were the one in kubuntu
[11:58] <poningru> #kubuntu*
[11:58] <TheCount> or even  better, a HiRen BootCD.
[11:58] <Tuntis> And whose advice I should follow?
[11:58] <poningru> Tuntis: TheCount or he will drink your blood blah
[11:58] <Tuntis> I don't trust some 98-fdisk fixing my mbr in an ntfs partition
[11:58] <drumline> Tuntis: if you use the 98 boot disk, it'll blow away grub.
[11:58] <owner989> if you are going to install ubuntu whats the point in restoring a nt boatloader
[11:59] <owner989> ubuntu will install grub and correctly detect all your partitions
[11:59] <TheCount> Tuntis: if you want to have ntloader back again, install a fresh standard mbr, which is what 'fdisk /mbr' does. there's a unix tool which does the same, but I'd have to look for it first. everthing else: set up something with grub.
[11:59] <owner989> or at least it should
[11:59] <Madpilot> good night, all
[11:59] <Tuntis> Alright, let's explain my hard drive structre
[11:59] <drumline> madpilot: thx man.
[11:59] <Tuntis> Good Night
[11:59] <TheCount> Tuntis: it doesn't matter.
[12:00] <poningru> it really doesnt :)
[12:00] <Tuntis> So...
[12:00] <poningru> so
[12:00] <Tuntis> I partition unformatted space from an IDE disk
[12:00] <Tuntis> Put the Ubuntu CD in
[12:00] <Tuntis> Install it
[12:00] <TheCount> LALALA not listening.
[12:00] <Tuntis> And let it install Grub on my main drive?
[12:00] <poningru> rofl we are just messing with you dude
[12:00] <TheCount> Tuntis: would work.
[12:00] <poningru> continue
[12:00] <Tuntis> Alright
[12:01] <n0cturnal_> anyone?
[12:01] <TheCount> the Debian package is called 'mbr' and has a command 'install-mbr'. might be available in Ubuntu as well
[12:01] <cyphase> how do you prevent a kernel module from loading at startup?
[12:01] <cyphase> and making sure another one is
[12:01] <TheCount> n0cturnal_: coffee? yes, please.
[12:01] <Tuntis> If I won't be back in 5 hours, it means you just killed me and I'm gonna assasinate you.
[12:01] <poningru> n0cturnal_: what?
[12:01] <n0cturnal_> iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING --dst 172.22.233.10 -p tcp --dport 22 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.15.128 <-- should this work?
[12:01] <owner989> lol
[12:01] <poningru> oh sorry dude /me doesnt remember that stuff
[12:01] <n0cturnal_> lol
[12:01] <n0cturnal_> np
[12:02] <cyphase> (From title) "No Firefox 1.5 in Breezy until after it appears in Dapper."
[12:02] <cyphase> meaning it'll be backported..
[12:02] <cyphase> or will it be an "ofiicial" Breezy package
[12:02] <cyphase> official*
[12:03] <drumline> oh well..  download it from mozilla.org  :)
[12:03] <n0cturnal_> i think i've got the rule right.. i've been messing around with the sh!t all afternoon and must have got at least a couple working...
[12:03] <cyphase> mozilla.com *
[12:03] <cyphase> ;)
[12:03] <bibi> mmmmmm
[12:03] <cyphase> drumline, i already have..
[12:03] <n0cturnal_> but when i telnet to the port from here i get nothing
[12:03] <cyphase> it just would be nice to have it installed through apt
[12:03] <TheCount> n0cturnal_: tcpdump is your friend.
[12:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> cyphase: no offical Breezy deb
[12:04] <cyphase> but it'll be backported..
[12:04] <cyphase> ?
[12:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh
[12:04] <TheCount> cyphase: no, noone cares about Firefox 1.5, so why the hell should it be backported?
[12:04] <cyphase> good
[12:04] <cyphase> :)
[12:04] <mp3guy> once you to linux from windows you never go back, would you say this is true?
[12:04] <TheCount> mp3guy: nope.
[12:04] <Starfire> <- still has no sound in ubuntu
[12:04] <cyphase> Kamping_Kaiser, me niehter, but i'll enable it for firefox
[12:04] <spikebike> no
[12:05] <wb> hi
[12:05] <cyphase> neither*
[12:05] <Tomcat_> mp3guy: Depends on the person... :o
[12:05] <cast> Starfire: heh. i had no sound for half a year before i learnt to chmod things in /dev :)
[12:05] <jareth_> hi all
[12:05] <Starfire> well, i -should- have sound
[12:05] <jareth_> i installed 2.6.14 kernel
[12:05] <TheCount> mp3guy: depends on what you intend to do with it as well .. choose the right tool for each job
[12:05] <wb> question: Is it possible to run a zd1211 Sitecom 802.11g USB wlan Stick with ubuntu?
[12:05] <Tomcat_> mp3guy: When I switched I tried very hard to replace all my apps and rituals, because going back would have been a huge defeat that I wouldn't have been able to bear. :)
[12:05] <cast> TheCount: as long as its a free tool ;)
[12:05] <cyphase> all my hardware works
[12:06] <jareth_> patched it, but now i don't have framebuffer support.. no available vt's
[12:06] <jareth_> any ideas?
[12:06] <TheCount> cast: sorry, but it doesn't work that way.
[12:07] <TheCount> cast: windows2k/XP are fine enough client operating systems, and sometimes you're in an environment where you simply can't avoid them without severe compatibility problems ..
[12:07] <spikebike> yeah, if the app you need is windows... then you need windows
[12:07] <SockerFot> hello
[12:08] <SockerFot> can anyone tell me of a program to view videos in in Ubuntu?
[12:08] <ubotu> okay, bibi
[12:08] <mp3guy> xine and vlc SockerFot
[12:08] <SockerFot> like a program that i can view online videos with, like Windows media player
[12:08] <SockerFot> so i can view videos on the internet that ppl send to me
[12:08] <mp3guy> SockerFot, mozilla-mplayer plays internet videos great
[12:09] <poningru> can we have a user named tell and about?
[12:09] <poningru> so that we can have tab completion with the ubotu commands
[12:10] <SockerFot> mp3guy, where do i find it?
[12:10] <mp3guy> SockerFot, open a terminal or use synaptic, in terminal its sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[12:10] <wickedpuppy> SockerFot, both are in repositories ... use apt-get or synaptic to install
[12:11] <SockerFot> ah right
[12:11] <SockerFot> another thing... wich VLC am i to download? Debian? Familiar Linux?
[12:11] <wickedpuppy> debian ... of course
[12:11] <wickedpuppy> what is familiar linux ? another distro ?
[12:11] <SockerFot> ok i know nothing
[12:12] <wickedpuppy> never heard of it before
[12:12] <SockerFot> i installed and tried linux for the first time yesterday so...
[12:12] <mp3guy> SockerFot, you don't download programs like in windows, you use synaptic package manager, much easier
[12:12] <SockerFot> yeah i tried that
[12:12] <SockerFot> but can i find VLC in synaptic?
[12:12] <wezzer> enable universe first
[12:13] <Raskall> I am replacing my old server now. My old server has a 250 GB disk, my new one has a 300 GB disk. Is dd a bad idea for getting my new server up? That is, boot from an ubuntu live-cd, and run "dd if=/dev/olddisk of=/dev/newdisk/"?
[12:13] <Raskall> or should the disks be of same size to get this working?
[12:13] <SockerFot> wezzer, ive done that, because i installed Azureus yesterday
[12:13] <cast> Raskall: i dont think you want to do that, just copy it over normally with whatever tool you like
[12:13] <halaszvari> hi
[12:14] <drumline> Mplayer lags
[12:14] <drumline> yeesh
[12:14] <TheCount> Raskall: either copy the data from the filesystem or copy the partition, but don't mess with the disk like that ;)
[12:14] <cast> drumline: using the right -vo?
[12:14] <drumline> cast: not sure... I'll need to do some looking and debugging...   but that's tomorrow...   g'niter!
[12:15] <TheCount> Raskall: you should have the identical block count for the new partition on the new drive .. slightly large will work out as well, otherwise you'd have to resize the filesystem. you'll have to re-initialize the bootloader if you just copy the data/partition
[12:15] <Raskall> TheCount: did that with a windows NT setup once, you see. had to install 12 winnt computers in one night. installed one computer, took out the disk and dd-ed it in on the other computers. but that was identical computers.
[12:15] <TheCount> Raskall: copying the data instead of the filesystem has the advantage of a fresh filesystem (and you could move from ext2/ext3 to xfs or something like that)
[12:15] <cast> night drumline
[12:16] <TheCount> Raskall: so you're afraid to loose your NT?
[12:16] <TheCount> Raskall: it would work with dd, but you'll have to lay hands on the partition table to get the extra 50gb accessible.
[12:16] <SockerFot> mp3guy, okay now i installed everything like all the packs i got when i searched for VLC plus the mozilla plugin. but when i try to watch this video it says (no picture) but i can hear the sound. What to do?
[12:16] <Raskall> TheCount, cast: this was 6 years ago. :)
[12:16] <mp3guy> you probably need w32codecs
[12:17] <Raskall> TheCount: mm..
[12:17] <SockerFot> mp3guy, and i suppose i find those in synaptic too?
[12:17] <SockerFot> :D
[12:17] <wickedpuppy> !restrictedformats
[12:17] <ubotu> hmm... restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[12:17] <wickedpuppy> SockerFot, there you go
[12:18] <SockerFot> wickedpuppy, ?
[12:18] <Raskall> TheCount, cast: If I had more time, I'd set up everything from scratch, but I get the new server the same day as I have to give away my old one (it's a borrowed computer)
[12:18] <wickedpuppy> SockerFot, visit that page
[12:18] <mp3guy> wickedpuppy, has anyone thought of making a special page/package that automatically installs w32codecs, libdvdcss2, azureus, realplayer, skype?
[12:18] <Raskall> but I run hd-backup every night of /home, /var, /usr/local and /etc.
[12:18] <cast> christ, they weren't joking at lzma going at 1meg/minute
[12:18] <TheCount> Raskall: the only problem lies with the partition block and what it thinks about the physical geometry of your disk.
[12:18] <wickedpuppy> mp3guy, there is automatix ... but we don't encourage it
[12:19] <TheCount> Raskall: creating the partition block by hand and copying just the partitions is safest.
[12:19] <TheCount> Raskall: s/by hand/with fdisk or partitioner/
[12:19] <mp3guy> wickedpuppy, i suppose, but removing commonly wanted packages from the repositories is a step backwards when it comes to making ubuntu a common desktop os for everyday users
[12:19] <Raskall> TheCount: mm.. Guess that will be the solution. But is it just to copy all the files, chroot, grub-install and then boot the new disk?
[12:20] <wickedpuppy> mp3guy, ? commonly wanted packages are removed ?
[12:20] <wickedpuppy> which ones ?
[12:20] <TheCount> Raskall: nearly, yeah. you might have to boot from cd to have the new disk be the primary disk before the grub-install, thou, unless you're experienced with grub or willing to learn ;)
[12:20] <mp3guy> wickedpuppy, w32codecs, realplayer, skype, libdvdcss2
[12:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> not removed, never added
[12:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> legal reasons
[12:21] <linux_newb> Hi i was just wondering if anyone could help me, I've just installed ubuntu but I'm getting "error 18" when grub tries to load
[12:21] <Raskall> TheCount: I am quite experienced with grub.
[12:21] <wickedpuppy> precisely Kamping_Kaiser  ...
[12:21] <TheCount> Raskall: then you'll know what I mean.
[12:21] <wickedpuppy> linux_newb, if i were you i would be googling for grub error 18
[12:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> linux_newb: check your hdd parameteres in bios
[12:21] <linux_newb> i have
[12:21] <Raskall> TheCount: But I'd like to have a fresh breezy-install too. The old machine is hoary.
[12:21] <n0cturnal_> my iptables rules dont seem to be doing anything.. prerouting just doesn't seem to happen. ideas anyone?
[12:21] <linux_newb> i have tried changing the HD settings in bios
[12:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> take it off auto and autodetect
[12:21] <TheCount> Raskall: well, just do it. your question was answered, thou ;)
[12:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> then get a new hdd ;)
[12:22] <linux_newb> nothing wrong with the hd:(
[12:22] <Raskall> TheCount: but I have A LOT of customized config files and self compiled things. That is what worries me.
[12:22] <TheCount> Raskall: life IS hard.
[12:22] <chrisx1> Is THere A WIN32 App emulator for breezy?
[12:22] <Raskall> TheCount: I know. :)
[12:23] <mp3guy> chrisx1, wine
[12:23] <chrisx1> installed already?
[12:23] <wickedpuppy> chrisx1, wine and crossover office
[12:23] <Raskall> TheCount: but as long as I get the web servers and mailserver up, I guess I'll have time to do the rest later
[12:23] <wickedpuppy> chrisx1, always sudo apt-get install wine ... if its installed it will tell you
[12:23] <chrisx1> am doin
[12:23] <AlexRM> Allo
[12:23] <AlexRM> You know for Windows there are several programs to Minimize Thunderbird to the system tray
[12:23] <AlexRM> Is there one for Linux?
[12:24] <wickedpuppy> programs to minimise another program ?
[12:24] <wickedpuppy> why ? i never have to minimise programs in ubuntu .. i just move to another virtual desktop
[12:24] <TheCount> hello - I went from Debian to Ubuntu, thus changed from XFree86 to Xorg .. Now my modeline for my SGI 1600W connected to the DVI-out of a Matrox G550 via a PIX-Link adapter doesn't seem to give the same output, and I don't get any picture anymore .. any ideas what to do?
[12:24] <AlexRM> Yeh, cos Thunderbird by it's self wont minimize to the system tray,
[12:24] <AlexRM> wickedpuppy, I don't use them
[12:24] <TheCount> The logs look like the correct modeline was choosen etc, but the PIX-Link insist on 'Out of range', i.e. it is unable to sync on the DVI signal. Windows doesn't have any problems whatsoever, XFree86 didn't have any either.
[12:24] <chrisx1> wickedpuppy, Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[12:24] <chrisx1> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[12:24] <chrisx1> is only available from another source
[12:24] <chrisx1> E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[12:25] <Raskall> TheCount: it seems my self compiled stuff actually is in the breezy repos. goody.
[12:25] <mp3guy> chrisx1, what program do you want to run on linux?
[12:25] <TheCount> (yes, I'm repeating myself, but this is MY actual problem)
[12:25] <chrisx1> radmin
[12:25] <mp3guy> chrisx1, what is that?
[12:25] <chrisx1> t oconnect to a windows pc without VNC
[12:25] <chrisx1> *to
[12:25] <chrisx1> remote administration program
[12:25] <TheCount> chrisx1: use rdesktop for that
[12:25] <mp3guy> chrisx1, i'm very sure there is some linux alternatives, i recommend chacking them out, its alot easier than getting networking and stuff working wine
[12:26] <TheCount> (unless I'm mistaking tools here)
[12:26] <yo2lux> hi
[12:26] <wickedpuppy> chrisx1, you got to enable universe and multiverse ..and yes as mp3guy suggested check out the alrenatives
[12:26] <jareth_> what kernel option do I need to enable for framebuffer support/vrtual terminals?
[12:27] <mp3guy> speaking of alternatives, are there any good video editors? Like to the caliber of windows movie maker 2 or arcsoft showbiz 2?
[12:27] <gi2k15> People, Qtparted is crashing when I select hda. What's wrong? I'm running this on LiveCD
[12:27] <yo2lux> i have two HDD in pc. The primary HDD is 80GB with windows xp, i want to install ubuntu on secondary drive that have 40GB, is possible ? i don't want to lose files from primary drive
[12:27] <chrisx1> to use rdesktop
[12:27] <AlexRM> So is there a Minimize to system tray for Thunderbird for Linux?
[12:27] <jareth_> mp3guy: look at kino
[12:27] <chrisx1> what server does i need to run on windows?
[12:28] <Talisker> err hi, I need to install a package to have support for QT
[12:28] <Talisker> but there are dozens of QT packages in the cache
[12:28] <Talisker> which one do I need?
[12:28] <Renfr> Hello, folks. I'm looking for a long-suffering soul who looks kindly on newbies, for a DCC
[12:28] <mp3guy> jareth_ kino can't open anything
[12:29] <Talisker> i can do that
[12:29] <wickedpuppy> Renfr, just ask here
[12:29] <Talisker> but you might as well ask here
[12:29] <chrisx1> TheCount, what server do i need to run on widows pc to use rdesktop?
[12:29] <gi2k15> Talisker, isn't there a metapack for QT at synaptic?
[12:29] <jareth_> mp3guy: because?
[12:29] <TheCount> Renfr: sorry, I don't do suffering
[12:29] <AlexRM> So is there a Minimize to system tray for Thunderbird for Linux?
[12:29] <TheCount> chrisx1: the default terminal server
[12:29] <chrisx1> no
[12:29] <chrisx1> i mean like
[12:29] <chrisx1> what does windows need to run
[12:29] <Kejk_PL> Talisker: libqt3-mt
[12:29] <Talisker> I'm using apt-cache, and there are dozens of them
[12:29] <Talisker> thanks
[12:29] <chrisx1> VNC?
[12:29] <mp3guy> jareth_, it can't open mpeg4, xvid, asf, anything
[12:30] <freenik> hello
[12:30] <TheCount> yo2lux: no problem whatsoever.
[12:30] <gi2k15> People, Qtparted is crashing when I select hda. What's wrong? I'm running this on LiveCD
[12:30] <TheCount> chrisx1: no, the one that comes with windows.
[12:30] <chrisx1> oo
[12:30] <chrisx1> k
[12:30] <yo2lux> TheCount ubuntu install the boot manager when my primary partition is big?
[12:30] <TheCount> chrisx1: if you'd want to use VNC, you'd have to use VNC. sure.
[12:30] <libben> how can i check my cpu temperature? I cant do cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone or acpi -V and so on.. lsmod | grep therm does show me it exists sorta i think.... my thermal_zone folder is empty... how can i check my cpu temperature? its an p4 1.7 ghz. i can see temp in bio and in windows. but not in linux
[12:30] <jareth_> mp3guy: i see.. any needed plug-ins?
[12:30] <Renfr> OK, thanks. I just downloaded the "live" iso. At boot (CD boot enabled), the machine putters for a LONG time, then starts Windows, and tells me that is has trapped a "serious error". What's am I doing wrong?
[12:30] <TheCount> yo2lux: parse error ;)
[12:30] <aeoth> meep.
[12:30] <Talisker> meep
[12:31] <TheCount> yo2lux: ubuntu will install the bootloader on the primary harddisk without changing anything else
[12:31] <yo2lux> thanks!
[12:31] <Talisker> Renfr, my best guess is that the CD is broken
[12:31] <TheCount> Renfr: same here
[12:31] <Talisker> try downloading and burning it again
[12:31] <Talisker> I once had a similar problem
[12:31] <mp3guy> jareth_, no, can't find any
[12:32] <Renfr> Download again? Burn again? Does a CDRW work?
[12:32] <aeoth> heh, anybody willing to give me a hand? installed ubuntu yesterday, nice and fun. Decided to take out my cd drive to save that tiny bit of extra power. Shut down, restarted, one of my nics is 'offline'. ubuntu's networking thing (+ ifconfig -a) doesn't detect it at all..
[12:32] <AlexRM> Please guys! is there a Minimize to system tray for Thunderbird for Linux?
[12:32] <Talisker> after much fscking around it became appearent to me that the problem probably sourced at the fact that I only had half of the image file
[12:32] <gi2k15> Renfr, yes
[12:32] <SockerFot> ASHGLASDFDS
[12:32] <SockerFot> im going crazy
[12:32] <SockerFot> video is still not working
[12:32] <Renfr> OK, thanks all! Bye...
[12:32] <Talisker> so am I
[12:32] <aeoth> http://www.aeoth.net/screenshot.png <-- it 'detects' both NIC's...
[12:32] <SockerFot> mp3guy, are you there?
[12:32] <TheCount> Renfr: check the md5sum, burn again. cdrw should work.
[12:32] <Talisker> Ubuntu is a poor host for LFS
[12:33] <SockerFot> or wickedpuppy ?
[12:33] <gi2k15> AlexRM , try looking for an extension that does it, or go through the config
[12:33] <wickedpuppy> SockerFot, just ask ?
[12:33] <mp3guy> SocketFot, yes
[12:33] <AlexRM> gi2k15, I have tried an extension...but it was only for Windows
[12:33] <SockerFot> wickedpuppy, video's  still not working
[12:34] <gi2k15> AlexRM, Have you checked the program's config?
[12:34] <SockerFot> wickedpuppy and mp3guy this is the video http://www.danerd.com/Show.php?vid=1321 and when i open it, it just says "no picture"
[12:34] <AlexRM> gi2k15, what do you mean?
[12:34] <gi2k15> See if there's something there that will enable the system tray
[12:34] <Talisker> for instance, I need to download 55 MB worth of packages just to access the kernel make xconf interface
[12:34] <gi2k15> But I'm not sure if there is any
[12:35] <gi2k15> I just use webmail =)
[12:35] <wickedpuppy> SockerFot, hold on .. i am going to that side
[12:35] <AlexRM> gi2k15, thers not an option in thunderbird to do it by it's self. thats why you need a program to do it for you,
[12:35] <wickedpuppy> SockerFot, no picture for me too
[12:35] <wickedpuppy> :P
[12:35] <SockerFot> ok, weird
[12:36] <SockerFot> because it worked in windows
[12:36] <TheCount> no, proprietary
[12:36] <AlexRM> I got one! Kdocker!
[12:36] <linux_newb> o w00t i got it working
[12:36] <linux_newb> :P
[12:37] <TheCount> congrats ;)
[12:37] <linux_newb> lol ty
[12:37] <AlexRM> Gah! Kdocker isn't in Synaptic
[12:37] <gi2k15> http://kdocker.sourceforge.net/
[12:38] <AlexRM> oh good! now I gotta complie it
[12:38] <gi2k15> There's a deb package there
[12:38] <gi2k15> Should work on Ubuntu
[12:38] <TheCount> "why do users whine? because they can!"
[12:39] <AlexRM> gi2k15, There is also a KUbuntu resporit
[12:39] <AlexRM> shall I add that?
[12:39] <libben> how can i check my cpu temperature? I cant do cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone or acpi -V and so on.. lsmod | grep therm does show me it exists sorta i think.... my thermal_zone folder is empty... how can i check my cpu temperature? its an p4 1.7 ghz. i can see temp in bio and in windows. but not in linux
[12:39] <gi2k15> AlexRM, I don't know if it's gonna work =(
[12:39] <TheCount> libben: go for lm-sensors
[12:39] <gi2k15> Well, try it
[12:40] <AlexRM> gi2k15, would it be safer to use the .deb file?
[12:40] <AlexRM> and use dkpg ?
[12:40] <libben> TheCount: i allready have that installed
[12:40] <libben> then what
[12:40] <gi2k15> I think. But don't worry, anything will explode :P
[12:40] <aeoth> Rah :/
[12:41] <TheCount> libben: have a look at the documentation? ;)
[12:41] <gi2k15> Linux let you do mistakes
[12:41] <AlexRM> gi2k15, suppose .. i'll try the ubuntu one
[12:41] <gi2k15> AlexRM, try it and then tell us here
[12:42] <AlexRM> they don't work .. oh well bed it is
[12:42] <AlexRM> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://dinton.no-ip.org kubuntu/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/dinton.no-ip.org_dists_kubuntu_main_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[12:42] <TheCount> apt-get update
[12:43] <thierry_> hi all
[12:43] <mantiena> hi
[12:45] <thierry_> I modified my xorg.conf. Basically two modes "1280x1024@60" "1024x768@60". On ubuntu, gdm is 1280, xfce is 1280, but gnome stays at 1024. Any idea ?
[12:45] <AlexRM> noooo! it's not 64 bit!
[12:45] <AlexRM> just my luck :(
[12:45] <einPaule> Hello everyone, Ive got a problem with evolution, it wont show the e-mails in the imap account, I can see what is in the sent folder, but inbox and trash dont show anything
[12:46] <owner989> thierry sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:46] <owner989> run that
[12:46] <testmach1ne> einPaule: then you account settings are wrong :)
[12:46] <thierry_> owner989. Yes i've just did it....
[12:46] <owner989> what video card do you have
[12:46] <owner989> ?
[12:46] <testmach1ne> einPaule: or your account doesnt have imap support?
[12:46] <TheCount> or the imap account is empty ;)
[12:47] <thierry_> very basic 'Sis' some thing i ppresume
[12:47] <owner989> are you using the vesa driver?
[12:47] <thierry_> my worry is why xfce is able to go up to 1280, but gnome can not...
[12:47] <einPaule> testmach1ne, TheCount: The folders are not empty, Im 99 % sure the logins are correct, but before I make a total fool of my self Ill double check
[12:48] <ubuntu> woohooo
[12:48] <einPaule> I can see whats in the folders using kontact
[12:48] <yikes> x11 or xv better in video?
[12:49] <thierry_> owner989: where can i check this ? no 'vesa' keyword in my xorg.conf
[12:49] <SockerFot> wickedpuppy, still doesent work :(
[12:49] <testmach1ne> thierry_: Section "Device"
[12:50] <einPaule> testmach1ne: It shows me that I have 7 new messages, but does not show them on the right hand side
[12:50] <thierry_> Driver "sis"
[12:50] <owner989> sounds like the right driver
[12:50] <owner989> for your card
[12:50] <thierry_> should I change it to vesa (from sis) ?
[12:50] <testmach1ne> hmmm thats weird :/
[12:51] <testmach1ne> einPaule
[12:51] <owner989> if its working i wouldnt
[12:51] <thierry_> owner989: ok i do not change this
[12:51] <owner989> but
[12:51] <owner989> if you do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:51] <[den] > I want to get in American chat. Prompt the American server, please...
[12:51] <owner989> you can select a higher resolution in the setup
[12:51] <owner989> like 1280x1024
[12:52] <einPaule> is there a channel for evolution specifically?
[12:52] <TheCount> THE american server.
[12:53] <thierry_> owner: yes ! but, I did it. the gdm shows in 1280 (so it works), and when I use xfce it statys at 1280, but from gdm, if i use gnome it goes back to 1024 !
[12:53] <testmach1ne> einPaule: you could try #evolution
[12:53] <testmach1ne> einPaule: but i dont know if it exists
[12:55] <einPaule> testmach1ne: Id be all by myself!
[12:55] <einPaule> ;-)
[12:55] <testmach1ne> hehe
[12:55] <testmach1ne> i am not an evolution expert myself
[12:56] <SockerFot> DAMEN HELL
[12:56] <SockerFot> how do i get videos to work in FUCKING SHIT ubuntu HELL
[12:56] <owner989> lol
[12:56] <BeGu> :)
[12:57] <owner989> if only he had asked nicely
[12:57] <mustard5> :)
[12:57] <SockerFot> ok im sorry
[12:57] <owner989> socketfot lol
[12:57] <SockerFot> but i really domt understand
[12:58] <owner989> sockerfot get http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=64629&highlight=ati+driver
[12:58] <SockerFot> ok thanks
[12:58] <[Chaos|Krieger] > .. :/
[12:58] <owner989> easyubuntu installs codecs for you
[12:58] <SockerFot> owner989, the thing is that ive installed lots of stuff, w32 and so on
[12:58] <thierry_> I try to ask it again nicely : gdm starts in 1280 (so it works), and when I use xfce it stays at 1280. But from gdm, if i use gnome it goes back to 1024 ! Any idea?
[12:58] <Seveas> owner989, and it wrecks your system too
[12:58] <owner989> seveas, i thought you only hate automatix
[12:59] <Seveas> makes no difference
[12:59] <Seveas> it's just as crappy
[12:59] <SockerFot> Seveas, it does? i dont want to install anything that wrecks my system
[12:59] <owner989> i used it
[12:59] <SockerFot> doesent sound nice, what should i do then?
[12:59] <Seveas> SockerFot, what was the problem again?
[12:59] <owner989> i think only the old easyubuntus caused problems
[12:59] <owner989> the new one works without a prob
[01:00] <SockerFot> Seveas, ive installed lots of codecs, vlc player and bla bla bla. but videos still dont work. when i open them on firefox, it says (no picture), and when i download and open them with various programmes, i can only hear the sound
[01:00] <SockerFot> there must be some kind of codec missing
[01:00] <freenik> hello, actually i cant decide between kde und gnome...if i install ubuntu and then apt-get kde, will I have "same" kde like in kubuntu?
[01:00] <Seveas> SockerFot, did you install w32codecs?
[01:00] <owner989> or it could be your video card
[01:00] <SockerFot> Seveas, yepp
[01:00] <owner989> can you play games
[01:00] <Seveas> owner989, it does stuff that I wouldn't do if I were drunk
[01:00] <SockerFot> yes, and i can watch the videos in Windoes
[01:00] <SockerFot> windows
[01:00] <SockerFot> but no go in ubuntu. i installed ubuntu yesterday.
[01:00] <Seveas> SockerFot, and did you install mplayer?
[01:01] <SockerFot> Seveas, hmm yeah i think so. gonna search for it in synaptic. there was one thing though. i followed a wikiguide that told me to do something in mozilla, create som pluginmap and enter some terminal codes. the problem was that i cant locate my mozilla map so i dont know where to enter these things
[01:01] <owner989> socker did you run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:01] <SockerFot> owner989, nope, whats that?
[01:02] <Seveas> owner989, that is bullshit
[01:02] <Seveas> you don't need that for codecs
[01:02] <owner989> seveas if he has no x acceleration he wont have any video
[01:02] <Seveas> SockerFot, that was for viewing things in the browser
[01:02] <owner989> thats a possibility
[01:02] <thierry_> i beleive too that "sudo dpkg-reconfigure" does not help too much...
[01:02] <Seveas> owner989, try this in the terminal: mplayer filename_of_your_video
[01:03] <Seveas> ehm
[01:03] <Seveas> SockerFot, try this in the terminal: mplayer filename_of_your_video
[01:03] <thierry_> seveas: yes good idea; i solved problem like that
[01:03] <chrisx1> how do i un zip a zipfile in terminal?
[01:03] <Seveas> christel, unzip filename.zip
[01:03] <Seveas> :)
[01:03] <Seveas> chrisx1*
[01:03] <SockerFot> Seveas, i have some uninstalled packages when i seard for mplayer but when i try to mark them it says that it is "mplayer-586  men 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9"
[01:03] <kbrooks> :p
[01:03] <kbrooks> :P
[01:03] <owner989> its working seveas
[01:03] <SockerFot> Seveas, its in some kind of conflict with another package
[01:04] <Seveas> owner989, yeah it was meant for SockerFot :)
[01:04] <owner989> lol
[01:04] <chrisx1> Seveas, ta, how do i make another command do something straight after?
[01:04] <owner989> i like the output
[01:04] <Seveas> SockerFot, 'mplayer' does not exist as package, mplayer-586 is good
[01:04] <SockerFot> and i find that in synaptif?
[01:04] <Seveas> chriswk, unzip foo.zip && som_other_command
[01:04] <Seveas> SockerFot, yes
[01:05] <SockerFot> okay, now its downloaded and installed
[01:05] <SockerFot> what to do now? should videos work now
[01:05] <owner989> sockerfot what video card do you have
[01:05] <Seveas> SockerFot, try this in the terminal: mplayer filename_of_your_video
[01:05] <SockerFot> owner989, GeForce FX 5200 something something
[01:06] <Seveas> SockerFot, on a sidenote: did you already enable the nvidia drivers?
[01:06] <chrisx1> how do i get wget to save to a folder?
[01:06] <SockerFot> Seveas, i dont know how to do that :D
[01:06] <doktoreas> :O
[01:06] <Seveas> chrisx1, man wget :)
[01:06] <chrisx1> lol
[01:06] <chrisx1> k
[01:06] <chrisx1> ty
[01:07] <Seveas> !tell SockerFot about nvidia
[01:07] <Seveas> SockerFot, ubotu gave you a hint
[01:07] <Stork> how can i stop my ircd from running?
[01:07] <doktoreas> alexzndr: ;)
[01:07] <Seveas> Stork, pkill -9 name_of_ircd
[01:08] <Stork> Seveas, didn't work
[01:08] <doktoreas> hi guys
[01:09] <doktoreas> i have installed ubuntu on my laptop... the configuring found both the wired nd the wireless card
[01:09] <doktoreas> the matter is that the wired can ping itself, but if i try with another pc on the lan
[01:09] <doktoreas> i got host unrechable
[01:10] <Seveas> doktoreas, sudo mii-diag eth0 (if eth0 is the wired)
[01:10] <Seveas> dies that say 'You have link beat'?
[01:10] <Seveas> does*
[01:10] <doktoreas> just a sec Seveas
[01:10] <doktoreas> thx for your answer
[01:11] <SockerFot> Seveas, it wont give me any results when i search for "linux-resricted-modules"
[01:11] <Seveas> resTricted
[01:11] <Seveas> SockerFot, so you have an intel or amd cpu?
[01:11] <mustard5> SockerFot, you missed the T
[01:12] <SockerFot> mustard5, :D
[01:12] <unimatrix9> hello there
[01:12] <SockerFot> Seveas, i thinks its AMD. i got i686 or whatever its called
[01:13] <unimatrix9> i have mounted /dev/hda1
[01:13] <Seveas> SockerFot, install the linux-k7 metapackage (that's optimized for AMD and includes the restricted modules) and reboot into that kernel
[01:13] <unimatrix9> how can i get acces for all users? on the bash
[01:13] <Seveas> unimatrix9, is it a windows drive or a linux drive?
[01:13] <unimatrix9> ntfs
[01:13] <N6REJ> morning Seveas
[01:13] <unimatrix9> hda1
[01:13] <Seveas> unimatrix9, then unmount it again and add -o umask=0000 to the mount command
[01:14] <Seveas> morning N6REJ
[01:14] <SockerFot> Seveas, will that fix it so i can watch movies?
[01:14] <Seveas> SockerFot, it's part of the fix
[01:14] <Seveas> SockerFot, you're being bitten by 2 nastyness-es:
[01:14] <SockerFot> is linux-k7 another kernel?
[01:14] <Seveas> 1) Nvidia cards only work with the closed source drivers which cannot be supported for 100% and thus are not enabled by default
[01:15] <mz2> i wonder if there's anything i could do to make my usb hard drive get recognised by gnome-volume-manager again, like it used to be in breezy
[01:15] <enkrav> Hello, how can I choose the windowmanager from a   console doing  startx ?
[01:15] <Seveas> 2) Media playback is a patent encumbered field which makes it difficult to support and impossible to enable by default
[01:15] <unimatrix9> ok so it would be mount -t ntfs -0 umask=0000 /dev/hda1 ?
[01:15] <holycow> mz2, your running dapper?
[01:15] <mirak> I have noticed that with the proprietary drivers, GDM won't start if the screen is not turned when the computer boots.
[01:15] <Seveas> unimatrix9, no
[01:15] <Seveas> -o not -0
[01:15] <N6REJ> Seveas: for a Nvidia FX 5200 AGP do know which kernel?
[01:16] <mz2> holycow: yes
[01:16] <holycow> mz2, well then, either grab a compiler and vim and fix the course ... or wait :)
[01:16] <Seveas> mz2, wait for keybuk to make his new world order complete
[01:16] <N6REJ> enkrav: there is a button called "session" use that.
[01:16] <holycow> course = source
[01:16] <holycow> heh
[01:17] <Seveas> bbl - breeakfast time
[01:17] <mz2> i guess i could always just write some sick piece of python to treat this case specifically through hal (because i know where i want it mounted and i know it's model and so on :)
[01:17] <SockerFot> Seveas, ok now ive downloaded
[01:17] <enkrav> N6REJ,  I installed TWM but it didn't appear on the session thing
[01:17] <SockerFot> time to reboot?
[01:17] <mz2> that would be fun actually
[01:17] <N6REJ> enkrav: go to system > preferences and choose it as your default :D
[01:19] <unimatrix9> /home/ubuntu# mount -t ntfs -o umask=0000 /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1
[01:19] <unimatrix9> yes?
[01:19] <holycow> mz2, attaboy!
[01:19] <holycow> lol :)
[01:19] <holycow> well now that the redhat directory server has been released ...
[01:19] <holycow> ... i guess it's time to start thinking about directory integration
[01:19] <holycow> we need deep gnome lockdown and directory integration features
[01:19] <enkrav> N6REJ, I cannot find where... System->prefs...???
[01:20] <SockerFot> okay
[01:20] <SockerFot> now ive installed the k7-kernel
[01:20] <SockerFot> but still no video
[01:21] <unimatrix9> for video you need codecs, or not?
[01:21] <unimatrix9> and mplayer...
[01:21] <unimatrix9> or the likes
[01:22] <Talisker> SockerFot, what format are you trying to play?
[01:22] <Talisker> Did you visit the restricted formats page?
[01:22] <derek[] > Setting up mplayer-586 (1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6.1) ...
[01:22] <derek[] > Errors were encountered while processing:
[01:22] <derek[] >  msttcorefonts
[01:22] <derek[] > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[01:22] <derek[] > -- Any idea why?
[01:22] <chrisx1> is there any ftp client installed in breezy?
[01:23] <SockerFot> Talisker, yes i did. im trying to play wmv. and YES i installed w32codecs.
[01:23] <Talisker> err...
[01:23] <Talisker> WMV's don't really play on linux
[01:23] <Talisker> there's a new format
[01:23] <mustard5> christel, not by default
[01:23] <SockerFot> not at all??
[01:23] <kbrooks> chrisx1, no. gftp is a good one
[01:23] <djk_> Talisker: what?
[01:23] <Talisker> but there's a package for smil
[01:23] <Talisker> not all
[01:23] <Talisker> only some of the newer ones
[01:23] <djk_> Talisker: since when do wmv's not play?
[01:23] <SockerFot> ok Talisker, can you send me a video, like mpeg format, or avi format or something and see if i can play it?
[01:24] <Talisker> djk_, only some of the newer one
[01:24] <SockerFot> aah hello djk :D
[01:24] <Talisker> SockerFot, download a small one at the local pr0n mirror
[01:24] <SockerFot> haha
[01:24] <djk_> Talisker: okay, can you give me link to a linux site stating that please?
[01:24] <djk_> SockerFot: hi
[01:25] <SockerFot> djk_, as you may see, i have problems running movies
[01:26] <djk_> SockerFot: afaik, mplayer plays wmvs..
[01:26] <cyphase_> Why would the nVidia driver be crashing my X server?
[01:26] <cyphase_> after about 15-25 minutes
[01:26] <dabaR> djk_: only if you have w32 codecs instgalled. or compile with right libs.
[01:26] <djk_> dabaR: that's a given
[01:26] <SockerFot> djk_, already installed mplayer but nothing seems to work
[01:27] <mustard5> cyphase_, what leads you to believe its the nvidia driver?
[01:27] <cyphase_> mustard5, because it wasn't doing it before i installed the nVidia driver
[01:27] <djk_> dabaR: but vlc doesn't seem to play wmvs though..
[01:27] <mustard5> cyphase_, what version of the driver are you using?
[01:27] <cyphase_> the one that comes with breezy
[01:27] <cyphase_> lemme see..
[01:28] <mustard5> cyphase_, k..nvidia-glx package
[01:28] <mustard5> cyphase_, what card are you using?
[01:28] <dabaR> dunno, I know you need the w32codecs- win 32 codecs for wmvs - windows media video.
[01:28] <cyphase_> i know
[01:28] <cyphase_> uhh..
[01:28] <cyphase_> 1 sec
[01:29] <SockerFot> hmm, now i am installing mplayer-k7, is that the one i should install?
[01:29] <jenda> SockerFot: what processor do you have?
[01:29] <mustard5> SockerFot, for k7 kernel yes
[01:29] <einPaule> damn, I cant see the messages on the imap server, even though evolution shows that there are 320 messages (7 unread), and i can create new folders
[01:29] <cyphase_> mustard5, GForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x
[01:29] <dabaR> SockerFot: ty0pe uname -r in a terminal
[01:29] <SockerFot> i have the k7-kernel
[01:29] <cyphase_> mustard5, i'm using the k7 kernel
[01:29] <cyphase_> could that be it?
[01:29] <cyphase_> i doubt it..
[01:29] <SockerFot> dabaR, 2.6.12-10-k7
[01:30] <jenda> SockerFot: Then it's the one you want
[01:30] <SockerFot> but videos still arent working
[01:30] <jenda> SockerFot: Do you have the codecs?
[01:30] <dabaR> ubotu: tell SockerFot about w32codecs
[01:30] <SockerFot> yes i fucking have w32
[01:30] <jenda> cool it
[01:30] <djk_> !language
[01:30] <ubotu> djk_: I don't know, could you explain it?
[01:30] <djk_> meh..
[01:30] <TheCount> SockerFot: would you please watch your language? bugs me the whole time.
[01:31] <linux_newb> ok I'm new to this linux stuff and i've just installed ubuntu, i want to conenct to the internet via crossover cable through a windoze box
[01:31] <SockerFot> TheCount, okay im so sorry
[01:31] <linux_newb> is this possible and how would i do it
[01:31] <jenda> SockerFot: What files are you having trouble playing?
[01:31] <mustard5> cyphase_, I'm just trying to think what it might be
[01:31] <shreevatsa> xdvi looks *bad* on Breezy. Can someone confirm this/help me?
[01:31] <SockerFot> jenda, .wmv
[01:31] <Hobbsee> !tell SockerFot about coc
[01:31] <Hobbsee> djk_: i think you were looking for !coc
[01:31] <djk_> coc..nice abbreviation :)
[01:31] <jenda> indeed
[01:32] <Hobbsee> hehe
[01:32] <mustard5> cyphase_, if you installed k7 kernel you would have installed the linux-restricted-modules for your kernel...as I doubt X would even start without them..so thats not the problem
[01:32] <Hobbsee> i didnt write it
[01:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi Hobbsee :)
[01:32] <Hobbsee> hey Kamping_Kaiser!
[01:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[01:32] <cyphase_> mustard5, it's installed
[01:32] <cyphase_> i made sure
[01:32] <dabaR> linux_newb: you will need to set up windows to share the connection.
[01:32] <shreevatsa> xdvi prints black text on a grey background... why?
[01:32] <mustard5> cyphase_, my first guess would be that it was flaky RAM sticks actually
[01:32] <linux_newb> ok i have done that, windoze shows an active connection now
[01:33] <mustard5> cyphase_, I would be running a memtest at startup using the option in grub menu and look for errors in your RAM
[01:33] <cyphase_> i have
[01:33] <cyphase_> none
[01:33] <Seveas> SockerFot, if those .wmv files are DRM protected you should give up
[01:33] <Seveas> that won't work on Linux
[01:33] <mustard5> cyphase_, have you checked you xorg logs at all?
[01:33] <SockerFot> ok how do i see if they are DRM Seveas?
[01:33] <jenda> Seveas: Really?
[01:34] <Seveas> jenda, yeah
[01:34] <dabaR> linux_newb: what do you mean it shows an active connection?
[01:34] <Seveas> SockerFot, boot into windows, fire up windows media player, load the file and look at its properties
[01:34] <doktoreas> Seveas: i got link status :previously broken, but now reestabilished
[01:34] <cyphase_> mustard5, no
[01:34] <cyphase_> not yet
[01:34] <jenda> Seveas: No better way to find out?
[01:34] <mustard5> cyphase_, that might be a good place to look for clues....because I have to say its a pretty unusual problem
[01:35] <SockerFot> Seveas, ah no ill skip that. but shouldnt the other files work now? ive installed mplayer-k7 and everything
[01:35] <djk_> Seveas: could one do that via wine as well?
[01:35] <linux_newb> i mean windoze shows an active LAN connection now, but i'm not sure what to do next, the ubuntu wont connect to anything
[01:35] <Seveas> SockerFot, they should if you also enabled the nvidia driver
[01:35] <goonie> Can anyone help out a newb with a problem with wireless on a fresh 5.10 install?
[01:35] <Seveas> djk_, -ENOCLUE
[01:35] <dabaR> linux_newb: do you have 2 ethernet cards on the windows computer?
[01:35] <Seveas> !tell goonie about anyone
[01:35] <linux_newb> just the one
[01:35] <mustard5> cyphase_, do you think your card might be overheating?
[01:35] <SockerFot> Seveas, i think i did actually
[01:35] <linux_newb> i have dialup
[01:35] <cyphase_> i don't think so..
[01:36] <cyphase_> oh well
[01:36] <dabaR> linux_newb: you can surf with windows
[01:36] <goonie> point taken :)
[01:36] <cyphase_> i can manage without 3D until i get my new computer :)
[01:36] <mustard5> cyphase_, ok..its just that it sounds like a hardware issue
[01:36] <linux_newb> yeah...
[01:36] <dabaR> linux_newb: can you ping between the two boxes?
[01:36] <cyphase_> custom built, 100% fully linux compatible
[01:36] <cyphase_> :)
[01:37] <mustard5> cyphase_, thats ok..but I'm saying it looks like a hardware failure at first glance...I could be wrong
[01:37] <cyphase_> where are the X logs again..?
[01:37] <mustard5> cyphase_, /var/log
[01:37] <linux_newb> please excuse my newbness... how do i find the ip of the ubuntu box
[01:37] <dabaR> linux_newb: ifconfig
[01:38] <SockerFot> Seveas, well, the videos in google video seems to work.
[01:38] <goonie> I installed 5.10 a few hours ago (dual boot) and so far so good... except wireless won't work. lspci recognizes the card and ifconfig sees it as eth1 but I'm not getting an IP from the DHCP. I've double checked the wep and the essid
[01:38] <SockerFot> but i think thats Java
[01:40] <dbzdeath> hey how can i get sound in firefox?
[01:40] <cyphase_> mustard5, i see nothing out of the ordinary
[01:41] <mustard5> cyphase_, hmm mystifying
[01:41] <cyphase_> yea..
[01:41] <cyphase_> it's ok
[01:42] <zzyber> Hi, i have a printer Epson Stylus DX4250 and i cant find a driver for it. What can i do?
[01:42] <mustard5> cyphase_, did you see the nvidia logo come up when you restarted X?
[01:42] <cyphase_> mustard5, no, becaus ei disabled it
[01:42] <mwe> zzyber: check out linuxprinting.org
[01:42] <cyphase_> because i*
[01:42] <mustard5> cyphase_, ah ok
[01:43] <lyric> hi
[01:43] <cion> hey all, is ATI RADEON 9600PRo well supported on ubuntu?
[01:43] <zzyber> mwe, thx
[01:43] <mwe> cion: yes
[01:43] <SockerFot> Seveas, ok, now most of the videos seem to work but still some doesent. thanks! :)
[01:43] <mustard5> cyphase_, well you could run it with VESA drivers and see if it still occurs..that would discount the nvidia drivers being the problem perhaps
[01:43] <cion> hey mwe :) so i install drivers w synaptic?
[01:44] <mwe> !ati
[01:44] <ubotu> [ati]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[01:44] <mwe> cion: look at that
[01:44] <zzyber> mwe, hm it wasnt there.......
[01:44] <b_e_n_z> i have a dvd writer but ubuntu doesn't think it can write dvd's...
[01:44] <b_e_n_z> [4294673.577000]  hdc: DVD+RW RW5240, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
[01:44] <cion> mwe:ok thx
[01:44] <dabaR> dbzdeath: Its a web browser. What page has no sound?
[01:45] <mwe> zzyber: bad luck then, it seems. google, if that doesn't help either, buy another printer
[01:45] <holycow> http://zero-install.sourceforge.net/index.html  <-- okay now this is bloody cool
[01:45] <slashx1896> HEY
[01:45] <slashx1896> anyone here not sleaping? lol
[01:45] <AlexRM> Hey
[01:45] <AlexRM> is there Flash for Ubuntu 64bit?
[01:45] <slashx1896> i dunno
[01:46] <linux_newb> dabar, sorry im taking so long (total noob) but yes i can ping between both machines
[01:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> no IIRC
[01:46] <testmach1ne> me neither
[01:46] <mustard5> Alex, I don't think so
[01:46] <saki> benz - You might look at /etc/fstab and change the permission to rw for that mountpoint.
[01:46] <mwe> AlexRM: no. macromedia hasn't made it availble for amd64 afaik
[01:46] <dabaR> linux_newb: no worries, I was making soup anyhow:)
[01:46] <slashx1896> i need to install a java plug in but it wont let me?
[01:46] <AlexRM> mwe, :( when will it be?
[01:46] <Hobbsee> !tell slashx1896 about javadeb
[01:46] <lyric> Well, I am lowering version 5.10 and I wanted to know if I need to create a partition for the operational system
[01:46] <joshua> Crossover Office can install macromedia flash
[01:46] <lyric> han ?
[01:46] <Hobbsee> !tell slashx1896 about java
[01:47] <dabaR> linux_newb: did you enable connectiopn sharing on your windows?
[01:47] <linux_newb> yes
[01:47] <Hobbsee> joshua: you can get flash on linux, without crossover office...it's shockwave that you'll have trouble with
[01:47] <linux_newb> oooh i can ping google
[01:47] <slashx1896> i need to download java runtime envoriment
[01:47] <Hobbsee> slashx1896: see your PM's
[01:47] <linux_newb> i couldnt load it in firefox though
[01:47] <slashx1896> Hobbsee: is that for java runtime evniorment?
[01:47] <Hobbsee> slashx1896: yes
[01:47] <lyric> Well, I am lowering version 5.10 and I wanted to know if I need to create a partition for the operational system... ???
[01:47] <slashx1896> k
[01:48] <mwe> AlexRM: I have no idea. there is a workaround, setting up a chroot environment and running firefox 32bit from that to get it working. I don't have the URL handy though. sorry
[01:48] <slashx1896> the 2nd or firsT?
[01:48] <slashx1896> or both
[01:48] <dabaR> linux_newb: you can ping google in ubuntu?
[01:48] <joshua> hobbsee: is it the plugin your talking about, or the IDE for flash?
[01:48] <slashx1896> plug in for meh
[01:48] <slashx1896> Hobbsee: the 2nd or first one? or both?
[01:48] <lyric> there is somebody in here to help me?
[01:48] <mustard5> slashx1896, try the javadeb first
[01:48] <slashx1896> ok
[01:48] <dabaR> ubotu: tell lyric about ask
[01:48] <Hobbsee> joshua: um...the plugin works, and i think there's a non-free version of flash, if you check in apt-cache
[01:49] <linux_newb> dabar: yes
[01:49] <Hobbsee> !tell lyric about anyone
[01:49] <slashx1896> mustard5
[01:49] <lyric> Well, I am lowering version 5.10 and I wanted to know if I need to create a partition for the operational system... ?
[01:49] <nooooooby_noob> YAY
[01:49] <slashx1896> mustard5: wich one do i download?
[01:49] <Hobbsee> lyric: lowering version 5.10?
[01:49] <nooooooby_noob> hehe
[01:49] <dabaR> linux_newb: that sounds good. well, did you install a firewall on your ubuntu?
[01:49] <mustard5> slashx1896, let me just get the download location on my browser
[01:49] <slashx1896> theres like 7
[01:49] <lyric> yeah
[01:50] <linux_newb> no i havent installed a firewall
[01:50] <lyric> download
[01:50] <slashx1896> oki
[01:50] <mustard5> slashx1896, jre 1.5
[01:50] <nooooooby_noob> <linux_newb on ubuntu box:D
[01:50] <djk_> Is there a prog for Boolean Algebra in the repos which includes discjunctive/conjunctive normal forms?
[01:50] <linux_newb> i can get on irc:P
[01:50] <dabaR> lyric: you will need a partition to install ubuntu onto, yes. Or you can use the installer to resize the partition you have, but then part of it needs to be empty.
[01:50] <slashx1896> i dont se that
[01:50] <mustard5> slashx1896, jre  = java runtime environment....1.5 is the latest
[01:50] <lyric> I need to create a partition in my computer, or ubuntu makes this?
[01:50] <Hobbsee> lyric: the installer will do it if you tell it to
[01:50] <mustard5> slashx1896, its there....I can see it :)
[01:51] <slashx1896> mustard5: http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/ there?
[01:51] <dabaR> linux_newb: you can try flushing your firewall rules. sudo iptables --flush
[01:51] <mustard5> slashx1896, yep...
[01:51] <slashx1896> mustard5: wich one lol 1-7 im ust be blind
[01:51] <lyric> okay
[01:51] <linux_newb> oh its working now YAY thnx very muchly for your help guys
[01:51] <mustard5> slashx1896, they all start with Sun..so ignore that and look for the letters jre  and 1.5 version
[01:51] <goonie> I installed 5.10 a few hours ago (dual boot) and so far so good... except wireless won't work. lspci recognizes the card and ifconfig sees it as eth1 but I'm not getting an IP from the DHCP. I've double checked the wep and the essid. Any ideas why it's not working?
[01:51] <lyric> dabaR but I don't know how do that... ;p
[01:51] <slashx1896> 4 of them start with sun
[01:52] <slashx1896> j2rel 1.5 ?
[01:52] <mustard5> slashx1896, yes
[01:52] <slashx1896> o lol
[01:52] <slashx1896> ok
[01:52] <dabaR> linux_newb: good work
[01:53] <dabaR> lyric: the easiest thing to do would be to erase all the files on your hard disk that you do not need, and during the install choose to resize your hard disk.
[01:53] <dabaR> lyric: how big is your HD?
[01:53] <slashx1896> mustard5: do i isntall through synaptic?
[01:53] <mustard5> slashx1896, you will install it using dpkg command
[01:54] <lyric> dabaR 40 G
[01:54] <slashx1896> im new with this can you help me?
[01:54] <Alex_BO> HELLO!I'm trying to download a video with bittorrent, but the download speed is only 7 kb/s.is it normal?
[01:54] <mustard5> slashx1896, sure..
[01:54] <slashx1896> iive done it before but i forgot
[01:54] <mwe> sudo dpkg -i foobar.deb
[01:54] <mustard5> slashx1896, take note of where you download it to in your folders :)
[01:54] <slashx1896> i know wher it is lol
[01:54] <lyric> dabaR or more than that
[01:54] <mustard5> slashx1896, ok
[01:55] <mustard5> slashx1896, tell me when your ready then
[01:55] <joshua> does anyone know a thing or 2 about wacom tablets?
[01:55] <holycow> Alex_BO, that has nothing to do with ubuntu ... its a feature of bittorrent.  basically you have more leeches than seeders
[01:55] <goonie> is there a special howto or a forum that deals with wireless on ubuntu?
[01:55] <Hobbsee> !wireless
[01:55] <ubotu> I guess wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[01:55] <doktoreas> i have installed ubuntu on my laptop... the configuring found both the wired nd the wireless card
[01:55] <slashx1896> Ready
[01:55] <doktoreas> the matter is that the wired can ping itself, but if i try with another pc on the lan
[01:55] <doktoreas> i got host unrechable
[01:55] <mustard5> slashx1896, k open up a terminal
[01:55] <slashx1896> k
[01:56] <mustard5> slashx1896, is it in your HOME folder?
[01:56] <slashx1896> no
[01:56] <slashx1896>  i know how tho
[01:56] <slashx1896> hold on
[01:56] <mustard5> slashx1896, cd to the directory it is in
[01:56] <Raskall> hmm.. I am setting up NFS mounting over my 802.11b-wlan. The mount itself takes looooong time. I haven't tried I/O on the mounts yet, but guess that will hang to. What are the best options to have for nfs over wlan?
[01:56] <slashx1896> wait is the file in my home folder or do i have the terminal set to home folder?
[01:56] <slashx1896> yeah i know
[01:56] <mustard5> slashx1896, just tell me where it is :)
[01:57] <mp3guy> whats the best kernel image to install for an AMD Athlon64 3700? I installed ubuntu i386
[01:57] <Alex_BO> holycow, uhm... but is it normal or have i some problems?
[01:57] <dabaR> lyric: you can then erase about 15GB worth of files, for an optimal install. That is if you do not feel like reinstalling windows. If you want, just back everything up on your HD, and reinstall.
[01:57] <slashx1896> k
[01:57] <barosl^win> any swedish here?
[01:57] <mustard5> when you have the terminal set up to the correct working directory use  sudo dpkg -i fullpackagename.deb
[01:57] <dabaR> mp3guy: well, it seems you have a 64 bit processor.
[01:57] <slashx1896> i have the file on my desktop and i have my terminal set to desktop
[01:58] <mp3guy> da
[01:58] <mustard5> slashx1896,  when you have the terminal set up to the correct working directory use  sudo dpkg -i fullpackagename.deb
[01:58] <mgedmin> Raskall, I use NFS over WiFi with no special options
[01:58] <holycow> Alex_BO, yes it is, read up on how bittorrent works here: http://bitconjurer.org/
[01:58] <mp3guy> dabaR, i know, but ubuntu 64bit is crap, not enough programs
[01:58] <doktoreas> it's not an ahrdware issue cause with anoter live distro the wired works
[01:58] <Raskall> mgedmin: ok.. maybe try with just the defaults, then?
[01:58] <Alex_BO> holycow, okay, thanks
[01:59] <slashx1896> mustard5: ok its down its stuff lol
[01:59] <mustard5> slashx1896, no errors?
[01:59] <slashx1896> nope
[01:59] <doktoreas> Seveas: it's not an ahrdware issue cause with anoter live distro the wired works
[01:59] <mustard5> slashx1896, if not..its installed :)
[01:59] <slashx1896> lets test
[01:59] <dabaR> doktoreas: what does that have to do with your wireless card. Dont clutter your questtion like that. Can you rephrase what you would like?
[01:59] <slashx1896> !!!
[02:00] <ubotu> I heard ! is what you add before a sentence to talk to me
[02:00] <lyric> After creating a Linux partition ext3 in windows xp... it does not obtain to recognize the bred partition... but when I to install the Ubuntu, I go to be able to choose this partition to install the Ubuntu?
[02:00] <slashx1896> it worked but when it was loading what i need java for firefox just closed on me
[02:00] <slashx1896> :\
[02:00] <mustard5> slashx1896, firefox and java don't play nice sometimes
[02:00] <slashx1896> :\
[02:00] <slashx1896> alrite
[02:00] <dabaR> lyric: yes the installer will see the partition, but remember to choose to manually edit partition table
[02:00] <mustard5> slashx1896, I tend to use epiphany browser when I want to use java
[02:00] <slashx1896> epiphany?
[02:01] <slashx1896> wat that
[02:01] <slashx1896> or how do i get to it
[02:01] <mustard5> slashx1896, you can install via command line if you want
[02:01] <mustard5> !info epiphany
[02:01] <ubotu> epiphany: (Clone of BoulderDash Game), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 0.5.1-1build2 (breezy), Packaged size: 614 kB, Installed size: 2404 kB
[02:01] <lyric> dabaR how thus?
[02:02] <slashx1896> Hold on im tryin to get on the thing in needed java for on firefox agian
[02:02] <mustard5> slashx1896, let me find the proper name of the package..one second
[02:02] <slashx1896> k
[02:02] <testmachine> fuckfuck
[02:02] <snorks_> shh
[02:02] <testmachine> are you in the middle of an dist-upgrade
[02:02] <testmachine> is your hdd as full as possible
[02:02] <testmachine> :\
[02:02] <dabaR> mustard5: epiphany-browser
[02:02] <doktoreas> dabaR: both wired and wirelss are recognized, but the wired one can only ping itself and not the pc on the lan
[02:03] <dabaR> doktoreas: do you need us to help you with the wired, or wireless?
[02:03] <testmachine> upgrading too dapper now
[02:03] <slashx1896> K i got on the chat client thingy
[02:03] <dabaR> lyric:
[02:03] <darklordfuzz> Any of you guys know of a way to save an OpenOffice spreadsheet in a format that can be read by excel?
[02:03] <mustard5> slashx1896, k if it still crashes on occasion you can do a sudo apt-get install epiphany-browser
[02:03] <Hobbsee> darklordfuzz: try saving it as .xls then :P
[02:03] <lyric> dabaR In the hour of the installation I go to choose the Linux partition ext3?
[02:03] <doktoreas> dabaR: wired one
[02:03] <dabaR> lyric: just read while installing, and choose to manually edit the partition table.
[02:04] <mustard5> dabaR, thanks
[02:04] <darklordfuzz> tried saving as .xls .. what do you mean by :p?
[02:04] <dabaR> doktoreas: OK, so, what does the LAN work on? a router?
[02:04] <linux_newb> ok i want to be able to access a secondary windows HDD from ubuntu, I have shared the drive on windows, where do i go in ubuntu to see the drive
[02:04] <Hobbsee> darklordfuzz: turn your head around sideways
[02:04] <kr4nker_h4nker> hi, i don't have sound with my emu10k1 sound card since i updated to breezy
[02:05] <kr4nker_h4nker> is that problem known?
[02:05] <darklordfuzz> lol!
[02:05] <dabaR> darklordfuzz: he means that is the excel file extension
[02:05] <lyric> dabaR Then after I choose the partition that I created, correct?
[02:05] <Hobbsee> darklordfuzz: otherwise, save it as a pdf, if it doesnt need editing
[02:05] <doktoreas> dabar: yeah router with 192.168.0.1
[02:05] <mike_g> darkloardfuzz: File Menu: Save As: File Type; .xls
[02:05] <Myrtti> :-}
[02:05] <kr4nker_h4nker> hi, i don't have sound with my emu10k1 sound card since i updated to breezy
[02:06] <Hobbsee> !sound
[02:06] <ubotu> I guess sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[02:06] <freemanen> then do the update dapper?
[02:06] <dabaR> lyric: yes, you would choose to install the / partition on the ext3. Remember, the / partition on that.
[02:06] <slashx1896> whats the diferece imbetween epiphany and firefox?
[02:06] <Myrtti> freemanen: lol
[02:06] <mustard5> linux_newb, are you talking about a drive on another machine?
[02:06] <linux_newb> yes mustard5
[02:06] <lyric> dabaR thx a lot :] 
[02:06] <dabaR> doktoreas: that is the router IP address? do you have the ubuntu computer beside you? type ifconfig and tell us the IP address you have tghere.
[02:07] <lyric> dabaR one more thing... how do I get some program
[02:07] <mustard5> linux_newb, I would think you would use samba to do that
[02:07] <lyric> it's a... aptitude install program ?
[02:07] <Hobbsee> lyric: yes, prefaced by sudo
[02:07] <lyric> ok
[02:07] <mustard5> ubotu: tell linux_newb about samba
[02:07] <lyric> sudo is a software of the root user
[02:07] <lyric> correct?
[02:07] <dabaR> lyric: you can install that way yes. "sudo aptitude install blah"
[02:08] <darklordfuzz> thanks, i'll give it another shot
[02:08] <Hobbsee> !tell lyric about sudo
[02:08] <lyric> What I type to show the version of ubuntu?
[02:08] <Seveas> lyric, cat /etc/issue
[02:08] <dabaR> cat /etc/issu
[02:08] <mustard5> slashx1896, take a look and compare :)
[02:08] <Hobbsee> !tell linux_newb about samba
[02:08] <mustard5> linux_newb, see message from ubotu on samba
[02:08] <linux_newb> ooh i see
[02:08] <linux_newb> thnx
[02:08] <mgedmin> linux_newb, apt-get install smbfs
[02:09] <Hobbsee> night all...
[02:09] <doktoreas> the router ip is 192.168.0.1 and ifconfig for the card is eth1 192.168.0.8 netmask 255.255.255.0
[02:09] <lyric> Seveas where I scribe this command?
[02:09] <mustard5> night Hobbsee !
[02:09] <doktoreas> dabaR:
[02:09] <doktoreas> the router ip is 192.168.0.1 and ifconfig for the card is eth1 192.168.0.8 netmask 255.255.255.0
[02:09] <mgedmin> linux_newb, you need 'samba' if you want to share your Linux disk, and 'smbfs' if you want to access a shared disk from Linux
[02:09] <dabaR> doktoreas: can you ping the router?
[02:09] <Mabus06> Can someone refer me to some docs on turning an .avi file into something readable by a conventional dvd player?
[02:09] <rob_> oh dear, i've just logged in and looks like someone else has a *very* similar problem
[02:09] <lyric> issue = ?
[02:09] <artox> where can i get the SDK, konsole prints: checking for valid Xorg SDK... configure: error: Unable to find xf86Version.h under /usr/X11R6/lib/Server/include and /usr/X11R6/lib/Server/xc/include
[02:10] <doktoreas> dabaR: nope :(
[02:10] <boabsta> Mabus06, google for konqkonv then look at that file
[02:10] <doktoreas> dabaR: i can only ping myself
[02:10] <rob_> can anyone help me with sharing a folder.  i've done what seems obvious. but now when i go to places>network servers it asks for a password repeatedly no matter what i type
[02:10] <dabaR> doktoreas: and you can not ping google, and you can not browse the web?
[02:11] <boabsta> Mabus06, or use it if you run KDE
[02:11] <artox> that was while trying to ./configure evdev driver
[02:11] <lyric> issue = ?
[02:11] <lyric> cat /etc/issu
[02:11] <Mabus06> boabsta, I use gmone
[02:11] <MickMcMack> Why would my pound sign not work? :(
[02:11] <lyric> what means issu ?
[02:11] <mwe> artox: maybe you need the xlibs-dev package
[02:12] <lyric> dabaR what means issu?
[02:12] <doktoreas> dabaR: i can't ping the router so interent is not working
[02:12] <mwe> lyric: it was a typo. it's cat /etc/issue
[02:13] <dabaR> lyric: it was a typo. seveas told you the right command. "cat /etc/issue" will tell you what version of ubuntu you have. This is while in ubuntu.
[02:13] <artox> mwe: nope, same problem
[02:13] <boabsta> Mabus06, no matter, download the konqkonv desktop file and look at that - it shows command line to convert a AVI
[02:13] <lyric> dabaR ah... okay
[02:14] <dabaR> doktoreas: maybe you turned off pinging on your router... Anyhow, you have a proper IP address, I do not see why you would not be able to surf. post your /etc/network/interfaces file to paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:14] <mwe> artox: what did you say you're trying to compile?
[02:14] <derek[] > What's the command to update a package?
[02:15] <derek[] > say irssi
[02:15] <aquarius> In a fresh breezy install, OpenOffice Writer is coming up with the OO filepickers for loading and saving, not the gnome filepickers. WHy might this be?
[02:16] <mwe> derek[] : don't you want to update all avialble packages?
[02:16] <derek[] > no
[02:16] <artox> mwe: i tried to compile the evdev driver! (0.2)
[02:16] <derek[] > limited internet usage
[02:16] <snorks> How to play .ape files in XMMS? Which codek is that?
[02:16] <aquarius> derek[] , apt-get install <packagename> will upgrade just that package and its dependencies.
[02:17] <derek[] > aquarius, ok
[02:17] <mwe> artox: I don't know about that, sorry. try asking in the channel again
[02:17] <derek[] > aquarius, even if its already installed? (i thought there would be something like "apt-get update.."
[02:17] <derek[] > )
[02:17] <ZiX> i tried kubuntu but hate it.. how to switch back to ubuntu?
[02:17] <aquarius> derek[] , install will upgrade it. "apt-get upgrade" upgrades all packages that need upgrading.
[02:18] <derek[] > ok
[02:18] <derek[] > thx
[02:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> ZiX: do you have Gnome installed still?
[02:18] <aquarius> I have openoffice.org2-gnome installed, but it doesn't seem to be using it.
[02:18] <ZiX> Kamping_Kaiser: yup.
[02:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> ZiX: click 'sessions' wehn your at the login screen, and you can use Gnome
[02:18] <rraajj> ZiX: If you still have Gnome installed, then just change the session to "Gnome" in the login screen.
[02:18] <mwe> ZiX: install ubuntu-desktop and use debfoster to uninstall kubuntu-desktop
[02:19] <ZiX> mwe: i already have ubuntu-desktop.... debfoster?
[02:19] <mwe> ZiX: yes
[02:19] <rob_> when i go to places > "network servers" i'm asked for a password, no matter what i type, this message repeats over and over. does anyone know why?
[02:19] <hile> well no real need to remove kde
[02:19] <ZiX> cuz all defaults are gone, artwork too, icons :o
[02:19] <hile> ZiX: if you want the gdm login screen instead of kde's, you can run sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm and select gdm
[02:20] <ZiX> i know :o
[02:20] <ZiX> but then the artwork ain't back
[02:20] <mwe> but if he doesn't like kde, keeping it around would be a terrible waste of space
[02:20] <olicat> does anyone know how to fix unmounting usb devices in ubuntu?
[02:20] <ZiX> mwe: i like kde but just not the bloat..
[02:20] <derek[] > http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5371
[02:20] <ZiX> and the kopete that err..... is slow
[02:20] <ZiX> xD
[02:21] <MickMcMack> ZiX, so use twm. \o/
[02:21] <olicat> i've just come from suse 10 which unmounted usb pens, ipods etc fine. but if i unmount any of my usb devices in ubuntu, i get errors
[02:21] <mwe> ZiX: me too. I don't use all the krap. just the framework
[02:21] <ZiX> MickMcMack: XFCE or fluxbox.
[02:21] <derek[] > aquarius, look at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5371
[02:21] <MickMcMack> ZiX, I thought you said you didn't like bloat. :)
[02:21] <Goshawk> olicat, what kind of error?
[02:21] <ZiX> MickMcMack: uhuh :o
[02:21] <khalif> hey all :)
[02:21] <ZiX> WMII :P
[02:21] <ZiX> WMII/ION/RATPOISON/OPENBOX
[02:21] <ZiX> ;p
[02:21] <khalif> Noob to 'nix here....
[02:22] <ZiX> do you REALLY use twm?
[02:22] <ZiX> :o
[02:22] <ZiX> khalif: welcome, then :o
[02:22] <aquarius> derek[] , do you want text-mode irssi or GUI irssi?
[02:22] <olicat> Goshawk, usb pens popup with "Cannot unmount volume", and ipods get a similar error
[02:22] <MickMcMack> ZiX, yep - purely because I'm used to it.
[02:22] <derek[] > aquarius, text
[02:22] <aquarius> derek[] , apt-get install irssi-text
[02:22] <khalif> I was wondering if someone could answer a couple quick questions for me?
[02:22] <derek[] > aquarius, I think irssi is only text-mode
[02:22] <ZiX> MickMcMack: i find TWM is terrible..
[02:22] <ZiX> when you like TWM, why are you on Ubuntu?
[02:22] <mwe> twm. I thought nobody had been using that since 1975 or something
[02:22] <Goshawk> olicat, maybe you have a shell pointing to it, or a window where the contents of your usb pen is displayed, you should close everyting
[02:22] <MickMcMack> ZiX, my first PC was a bit crappy and didn't really like anything else; so it's just what I'm used to.
[02:22] <ZiX> you'd better take gentoo :o
[02:23] <MickMcMack> ZiX, why would I want Gentoo?
[02:23] <olicat> Goshawk, everything is closed
[02:23] <Goshawk> s/everyting/everything
[02:23] <ZiX> i worked with redhat 6.2
[02:23] <ZiX> :o
[02:23] <khalif> Anybody using Wine currently?
[02:23] <ZiX> MickMcMack: well.. tweakability?
[02:23] <olicat> "Unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument"
[02:23] <MickMcMack> ZiX, to install something on Gentoo you need to like, sell your soul. :(
[02:23] <mwe> khalif: well, yes
[02:23] <olicat> as i said, suse does this just fine
[02:23] <rob_> hi, i'm looking for some help with a sharing folders over a network
[02:23] <ZiX> MickMcMack: or wait for three hours ;)
[02:23] <Goshawk> olicat, use umount from command line
[02:24] <olicat> Goshawk, so whats's the point in having a gui?
[02:24] <khalif> mwe: Have you had any success using it with any recently released software?
[02:24] <dabaR> rob_: did you read the samba wiki page?
[02:24] <doktoreas> dabaR: i can ping the router from other pc... this is the paste
[02:24] <doktoreas> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/6TYtLk41.html
[02:24] <olicat> is this ubuntu's idea of usability?
[02:24] <MickMcMack> ZiX, yep - I'm impatient, Gentoo is a nice idea, but I want to spend more time working, less time trying to get things installed.
[02:24] <Goshawk> olicat, we need to know if the problem is umount itself or a special flag that the gnome gui sends to it....
[02:24] <ZiX> MickMcMack: yup, me too
[02:24] <ZiX> that's why i took Debian
[02:24] <dabaR> doktoreas: why a static IP addresss? use dhcp for your router.
[02:25] <ZiX> first i had redhat, on a club, couldn't install ANYTHING (had no permissions, rofl xD)
[02:25] <mwe> khalif: no it only works with quite a limitid number of programs. they have a compatibility list on their website
[02:25] <Sarkie> hi
[02:25] <rob_> dabaR, i've been trying to, i've done all that's abvious it when i go to network places and look for the other shared folders on my friend computers i have problems
[02:25] <ZiX> then, somebody said "gentoo is better"
[02:25] <olicat> how much damn testing could they have done if i can't even unmount the most widely used usb device in the world
[02:25] <ZiX> so i used gentoo for like 3 years
[02:25] <scott_> HI, can any one tell me how to realplayer to install. I am new at this system
[02:25] <ZiX> first install was done by the guy, second by me
[02:25] <MickMcMack> ZiX, also; Mentor Graphics behaves better in twm than most other Window Managers that I've tried - but in the end, it's still the same OS; it's just about preference.
[02:25] <ZiX> then, i switched to Debian, to see how that was
[02:25] <olicat> i can unmount stuff if i call eject /dev/node from a command line. i don't want to do that 50 odd times every day
[02:25] <dabaR> olicat: stop being negative.
[02:25] <ZiX> some things were missing, and i heard much about ubuntu
[02:25] <artox> how can i see my X Version??
[02:25] <mwe> khalif: most recent program I ran with wine was IE because I needed it for my web bank
[02:25] <ZiX> so i tried ubuntu
[02:25] <ZiX> xD
[02:25] <Goshawk> olicat, i have 3 usb pens, and i had been never got errors
[02:25] <khalif> I know, I was just browsing it. I'm a web developer who's addicted to Dreamweaver....
[02:26] <dabaR> olicat: how wouuld you like to unmount things?
[02:26] <ZiX> MickMcMack: is TWN the original X wm?
[02:26] <ZiX> :o
[02:26] <Sarkie> I am installing KDE for Ubuntu is it as easy as install KDE then uninstall GNOME?
[02:26] <olicat> dabaR, it's hard to be positive with such glaringly obvious bugs halting productivity
[02:26] <mwe> khalif: Oh
[02:26] <ZiX> TWM*
[02:26] <ZiX> hi PabloEscobar_
[02:26] <MickMcMack> ZiX, I thinkso, yes.
[02:26] <ZiX> Paradoxx*
[02:26] <olicat> dabaR, from right clicking the device on the desktop, or the disk unmounter applet
[02:26] <ZiX> :o
[02:26] <khalif> I use an iMac at home, but I need something for my laptop which is running Kubuntu...
[02:26] <mwe> khalif: I don't think it works with wine. check frankscorner.org too, though
[02:26] <ZiX> MickMcMack: why didn't they call it XWM, then?
[02:26] <ZiX> :o
[02:26] <doktoreas> dabaR: i wanna use staic ip address
[02:26] <artox> how can i see my X Version??
[02:26] <ZiX> oh wauit
[02:26] <MickMcMack> ZiX, because it is THE window manager to use. xD
[02:26] <ZiX> wait*
[02:26] <ZiX> THE WINDOW MANAGER
[02:26] <khalif> What's frankscorner?
[02:26] <ZiX> yea :o
[02:26] <dabaR> doktoreas: then set it up at the router, not at the computer.
[02:26] <BigKahuna> Looking for help with a (PAL) MythTV installation.. Any experts out there?
[02:27] <PabloEscobar_> ZiX-> hi
[02:27] <Goshawk> olicat, i'm not saying to you that you must use the command line, but try it to know if the problem is fromward umount or a bad flags gives to it...
[02:27] <ZiX> but it's so empty...
[02:27] <ZiX> :p
[02:27] <ZiX> PabloEscobar_: i accidentaly typed your name, damn tab-completion.
[02:27] <Goshawk> olicat, btw do what you want....
[02:27] <PabloEscobar_> ZiX-> lol
[02:27] <MickMcMack> ZiX, more empty space means more space for windows. \o/
[02:27] <dpupp> Does XMMS play CDA ?
[02:27] <lyric> When I to place the COMPACT DISC of instalacao of ubuntu... and to restart the XP, it already it goes direct for the installation of ubuntu?
[02:27] <ZiX> MickMcMack: true :o
[02:27] <mwe> khalif: frankscorner.org is a web page with instructions for installing different programs in wine
[02:27] <dpupp> IM having issues getting XMMS to play my audio CDs.
[02:27] <ZiX> more empty space on your harddisk, more space for the virus called windows
[02:28] <khalif> ok, cool. Thanks mwe
[02:28] <ZiX> xD
[02:28] <olicat> Goshawk, i;m trying to do what i want: perform a simple unmount command via the gui, as is the standard method - however ubuntu is broken. hence my visit here
[02:28] <ZiX> so the more bloat, the more stability, cuz windows doesn't fit anywhere
[02:28] <ZiX> (A)
[02:28] <ZiX> nice one, eh? xD
[02:28] <dabaR> lyric: yes. it will boot from the CD if your bios is set up that way. What is your first language?
[02:28] <lyric> dabaR portuguese
[02:28] <dabaR> !pt
[02:28] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[02:28] <khalif> One more question for you: I'm also browsing KDE-Apps.org for some web development tools. Anyone you could suggest?
[02:28] <olicat> so everyone here with an iPod, you can unmount it through a gui without problems?
[02:29] <TuntisUbuntu> uargh
[02:29] <mwe> khalif: http://frankscorner.org/index.php?p=dreamweavermx
[02:29] <TuntisUbuntu> hey
[02:29] <TuntisUbuntu> I have a serious problem :/
[02:29] <TuntisUbuntu> I can't copypaste anything to freaking hard drives
[02:30] <TuntisUbuntu> I can't create any files
[02:30] <lyric> dabaR last question... as I move in the BIOS to make this when I to place the COMPACT DISC?
[02:30] <MickMcMack> TuntisUbuntu, what type of partition is on them?
[02:30] <TuntisUbuntu> IDE drive?
[02:30] <dabaR> doktoreas: do you think you know how to set up the static Ip at the router? if not, read its manual, I bet its available online.
[02:30] <MickMcMack> TuntisUbuntu, what type of partition is on them?
[02:30] <TuntisUbuntu> Permissions just say that only "owner" can change them
[02:30] <mustard5> TuntisUbuntu, ntfs?
[02:30] <NetGrunt> Does anybody know how can I configure my ubuntu 5.10 XWindows so that the CLIPBOARD behaves exactly like m$oft windows one ? Thanks
[02:30] <TuntisUbuntu> What do you mean? It's ext2
[02:30] <MickMcMack> Ah. what did you mount it as? rw or ro?
[02:31] <TuntisUbuntu> I didn't mount them, Ubuntu did automatically
[02:31] <TuntisUbuntu> You see, it's the drive this whole thing is installed to
[02:31] <dabaR> lyric: ask as many questions as you would like, but it is hard to understand you, and I do not want to give you some wrong advice. the installation should start right away when you reboot the computer with the cd in the drive.
[02:31] <MickMcMack> TuntisUbuntu, WHERE are you trying to write to? :P
[02:31] <TuntisUbuntu> A hard disk
[02:31] <MickMcMack> WHERE on the hard disk? :|
[02:32] <dabaR> NetGrunt: whatt is the clipboard?
[02:32] <TuntisUbuntu> Anywhere I want to?
[02:32] <MickMcMack> TuntisUbuntu, I highly doubt that.
[02:32] <TuntisUbuntu> If I go to the "filesystem" drive, I can't write anything there.
[02:32] <TuntisUbuntu> Just read.
[02:32] <TuntisUbuntu> Desktop is writable, though
[02:32] <NetGrunt> dabaR, whenever you press ctrl+c / ctrl+v something gets copied/pasted to/from clipboard
[02:32] <MickMcMack> TuntisUbuntu, that's correct...
[02:32] <MickMcMack> TuntisUbuntu, firstly; why would you EVER want to write something to / ?
[02:32] <dabaR> TuntisUbuntu: only the root user has access to the whole hard drive. each other user has write access only to his home directory
[02:33] <TuntisUbuntu> Oooh
[02:33] <MickMcMack> TuntisUbuntu, secondly; if you did, you would have to use sudo.
[02:33] <TuntisUbuntu> I have sudo, I don't have knowledge to use it
[02:33] <dabaR> NetGrunt: you mean to be able to copy and paste several things, like,  press ctrl
[02:33] <dabaR> +c several times and it remembers all what you copied?
[02:33] <TuntisUbuntu> Then, tell me where to put files for ndiswrapper?
[02:33] <dabaR> !root
[02:33] <ubotu> I guess root is rumour has it, that root is disabled in Ubuntu, actually this means there is no password set for the root account, use sudo when you need admin access, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[02:34] <dabaR> !ndiswrapper
[02:34] <ubotu> I guess ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[02:34] <TuntisUbuntu> well you guys don't exactly seem to support dwl-510 either
[02:35] <dabaR> Im sorry? we guys?
[02:35] <dabaR> What do you mean, TuntisUbuntu
[02:35] <TuntisUbuntu> Maybe I referred the wrong person(s)
[02:35] <TuntisUbuntu> But I don't see Ubuntu giving me any access to config my dwl 510
[02:35] <dabaR> !wireless
[02:35] <ubotu> well, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[02:36] <dabaR> read those three pages, and come back here if you need more help
[02:36] <MickMcMack> dabaR, your nick is very confusing for dyslexic people. >_>;;;
[02:36] <dabaR> MickMcMack: why is that?
[02:37] <MickMcMack> dabaR, I think because the da ba, d's and b's can get confusing. And the R is at the end, so together with the b/d - it just looks all WOOOOO!
[02:38] <dabaR> OK.
[02:38] <MickMcMack> Sorry, I'm incredibly bored. :(
[02:38] <dabaR> MickMcMack: are you dyslexic?
[02:38] <MickMcMack> dabaR, yessir.
[02:39] <dabaR> Ill go wikipedia on what that even means.
[02:39] <[Inv] LLIypuk> hi folk ! who call tell me where's the ubuntu's *headquarters* situated ?
[02:40] <NetGrunt> dabaR, no, As far as I know windows doesn't do that by default. I Just want my xwindows to NOT autocopy to clipboard everything you select with the mouse
[02:40] <poningru_sleep> [Inv] LLIypuk: Island off of Ireland
[02:40] <[Inv] LLIypuk> ^)
[02:40] <poningru> [Inv] LLIypuk: Isle of Man
[02:40] <Sarkie> NetGrunt thats MIRC not windows
[02:40] <[Inv] LLIypuk> so Ireland distro ?
[02:40] <MickMcMack> NetGrunt, it doesn't - it depends on the app; as far as I know.
[02:40] <xerox> Hi.
[02:40] <poningru> [Inv] LLIypuk: um no
[02:40] <[Inv] LLIypuk> &
[02:40] <[Inv] LLIypuk> ?
[02:41] <xerox> Do you know if it is possible to hide the desktop icons?
[02:41] <GaWaiNe> Hi
[02:41] <dabaR> MickMcMack: so my nick causes you pain?
[02:41] <dabaR> xerox: sure is.
[02:41] <poningru> xerox: just rename it with a . in front
[02:41] <poningru> like if its xxxxx
[02:41] <dabaR> xerox: just have no desktop icons?
[02:41] <poningru> then rename it .xxxxxx
[02:41] <MickMcMack> dabaR, I wouldn't say pain - it's just confuddling at times. :o
[02:41] <xerox> poningru: hehe, no, I mean temporary :-)
[02:41] <xerox> dabaR: yep!
[02:42] <dabaR> MickMcMack: you think I should change it?
[02:42] <ompaul> [Inv] LLIypuk, the IOM Isle of Man is not the republic of Ireland
[02:42] <MickMcMack> dabaR, nononononono. Not at all.
[02:42] <xerox> poningru: it would confuse with the real dot-files, I think.
[02:42] <poningru> ok fine mv * .*
[02:42] <xerox> poningru: it doesn't work that way.
[02:42] <gi2k15> Is there a way I can resize and/or convert NTFS partitions on Ubuntu?
[02:42] <xerox> poningru: I mean, mv.
[02:42] <poningru> there are no dot files
[02:42] <poningru> oh yeah hehe
[02:42] <MickMcMack> dabaR, if people change themselves just to suit others, we wouldn't be individuals anymore. >_<
[02:42] <poningru> doh
[02:42] <xerox> I intend to hide them gnome-wise.
[02:42] <dabaR> xerox: to not have desktop icons at all, you would go into Apps>Sys Tools>Config Editor. In there, apps>nautilus, and find option for no icons.
[02:42] <[Inv] LLIypuk> ompaul - i'm sorry but where is it situated ?
[02:43] <TuntisUbuntu> ndiswrapper doesn't work.
[02:43] <dabaR> MickMcMack: well, I dont want to cause trouble to poor dyslexic people.
[02:43] <poningru> xerox: I dont understand why not just rename all the files like that
[02:43] <MickMcMack> dabaR, do I detect a hint of minty sarcasm? :o
[02:43] <testmachine> poor dyslexic people
[02:43] <testmachine> ?
[02:43] <testmachine> i am dyslexic
[02:43] <testmachine> but not poor
[02:43] <testmachine> dont call us poor!
[02:43] <testmachine> :P
[02:43] <MickMcMack> Discrimination! :O!
[02:43] <testmachine> indeed!
[02:43] <ompaul> [Inv] LLIypuk, on the IOM an island in the middle of the Irish sea, where the TT-Races (motorbike racing) takes place
[02:43] <GaWaiNe> I've a problem with my wireless mouse. It's a logitech mx 1000. Ubuntu have found my mouse but sometime it is stucked for short period of time, while on windows it works fine. What is the problem ?
[02:44] <xerox> dabaR: thanks, I'll scrap them.
[02:44] <poningru> [Inv] LLIypuk: dude just google it
[02:44] <poningru> or wp it
[02:44] <xerox> poningru: for a bunch of reasons, thanks for the help, anyway.
[02:44] <[Inv] LLIypuk> :)
[02:44] <chris__> any1 know a good vnc viewer
[02:44] <dabaR> gi2k15: what do you want to do exactly?
[02:44] <[Inv] LLIypuk> g00d advise :)
[02:44] <poningru> xerox: yep sorry couldnt be of more help
[02:44] <poningru> try irc.gnome.org #gnome
[02:44] <xerox> poningru, dabaR: if you care, the option is "show_desktop" under app/nautilus/preferences.. Thanks both.
[02:44] <poningru> since this seems like a gnome thing
[02:45] <gi2k15> dabaR, Resize my NTFS partition so I can have more space on Linux
[02:45] <GaWaiNe> I've the same problem with a touchpan and a usb mouse
[02:45] <dabaR> chris__: aptitude search vnc
[02:45] <Goshawk> chris__, tightvnc
[02:45] <poningru> gi2k15: use gparted after umounting everthing
[02:46] <daje> could anyone tell me how to search for files on ubuntu?
[02:46] <dabaR> gi2k15: you can likely get gparted parted or qtparted to do that for you.
[02:46] <chris__> tightvnc is rpm or source only
[02:46] <poningru> daje: under places
[02:46] <chris__> i tried source n i got errors
[02:46] <poningru> search for files
[02:46] <snorks> daje: locate
[02:46] <poningru> snorks: ?
[02:46] <daje> snorks: in terminal?
[02:46] <ompaul> [Inv] LLIypuk, this company http://www.canonical.com/ set up this distro http://www.ubuntu.com/ because of this man http://www.markshuttleworth.com
[02:46] <poningru> if he is asking he is not asking for a cli answer
[02:47] <AlexRM> Hey,
[02:47] <snorks> daje: I apologize, you want the graphical solution. Talk to poningru
[02:47] <dabaR> poningru: I told him what to do:) the xerox guy...
[02:47] <ompaul> poningru, perhaps we need a factiod to give like the canonical answer to that query I have seen it a few times recently
[02:47] <daje> snorks: ok, cheers anyway
[02:47] <arix> hi
[02:47] <poningru> ompaul: hehe true
[02:47] <AlexRM> you know the menu's at the top of the screen on Gnome (Appliactions, Places, System) - How do I edit Places and System...it will only let me edit Applications
[02:47] <[Inv] LLIypuk> ompaul - thx !
[02:47] <gi2k15> I tried using Qparted, but it said it couldn't read the partition's data, so some operations were disabled, like resize
[02:47] <arix> does anyone know how to setup the cdrom speed in gnome?
[02:47] <daje> poningru: looking for something like spotlight on mac, heard of something called beagle - any good?
[02:47] <poningru> AlexRM: you cant
[02:47] <gi2k15> And Qtparted crashes when I select hda
[02:48] <AlexRM> poningru, :( shame
[02:48] <poningru> daje: hehe pretty good
[02:48] <poningru> AlexRM: well you can
[02:48] <AlexRM> poningru,  :)
[02:48] <poningru> but tooooo much hacking required
[02:48] <AlexRM> poningru,  :(
[02:48] <AlexRM> oh well
[02:48] <poningru> daje: beagle is ok but not that good yet
[02:49] <daje> poningru: any other suggestions for a vanilla gui search
[02:49] <poningru> as in it supports stuff but doesnt have support for everything
[02:49] <poningru> daje: under places->Search for files...
[02:49] <AlexRM> Gah, XMMS keeps setting it's self to Always on Top, yet there is no setting for that
[02:49] <AlexRM> how can I make it Not always on Top?
[02:49] <poningru> daje: are you using gnome?
[02:49] <AlexRM> nevermind, I got it
[02:49] <poningru> AlexRM: what do you mean on top?
[02:50] <daje> poningru: yep, thanks - the best solutions are always just under your nose
[02:50] <poningru> hehe
[02:50] <daje> poningru : also could you point to a good .asf player - does vlc do it?
[02:50] <AlexRM> poningru, tis ok, I fixed it. I ment it was always ontop of everything, sya I open something full screen it will be on top, but its ok now
[02:50] <poningru> daje: you need w32codecs for that iirc but not sure if even that solves it
[02:51] <poningru> .asf is ms stuff iirc
[02:51] <poningru> ms answer to a media container
[02:51] <poningru> so proprietry up the wazooo
[02:51] <poningru> so try installing w32codecs
[02:51] <AlexRM> poningru, Is ther a way to change the colour ofthe Application, Places, System Buttons? because when I change the panel backrgound, the buttons keep there origional colour, which looks crap
[02:51] <poningru> AlexRM: try changing the theme
[02:51] <daje> poningru: can't find w32codecs using apt-get - is it in standard repositories?
[02:52] <poningru> daje: no legal issues
[02:52] <poningru> daje: hold on
[02:52] <AlexRM> poningru, I don't want to. I like my theme, just I want those different
[02:52] <poningru> !w32codecs
[02:52] <poningru> err
[02:52] <poningru> !tell daje about w32codecs
[02:52] <poningru> daje: follow that link
[02:52] <daje> poningru: many thanks
[02:52] <poningru> AlexRM: hmm what do you mean that color only?
[02:53] <poningru> like the menu background color?
[02:53] <poningru> EuroNews: dude please dont use pms
[02:53] <poningru> its annoying
[02:53] <folki> Can anybody help me how can I install software when I have only binary files? I know I have to compile it but I don` t know how can I do it. I am only beginners in Linux.
[02:53] <EuroNews> ok
[02:53] <poningru> please use the channel it wont matter if its too offtopic
[02:53] <AlexRM> poningru, Ok, take Windows XP for example, when you open an an application, it appears at the bottom yeh..it's coloured like Blue or Silver or Green (which ever theme you chose)
[02:53] <folki> beginner*
[02:54] <ompaul> cos if it is too offtopic we can move it to the offtopic channel :)
[02:54] <poningru> hehe true
[02:54] <dabaR> folki be specific. what do youwant to know?
[02:54] <gi2k15> folki, if it's the binary, you don't need to compile it. You just compile the source codes
[02:54] <AlexRM> poningru, I want it so that I can change the Panel Background and have the Buttons (Not actual application buttuns) change to, hum tis hard to explain
[02:54] <poningru> AlexRM: I think you have to go through theme
[02:54] <poningru> try it out
[02:55] <poningru> theme in gnome is not the same as theme in windows
[02:55] <poningru> so try it out
[02:55] <poningru> you can always revert back
[02:55] <AlexRM> poningru, but you can't change certain elements of 1 theme
[02:55] <ompaul> !tell folki about synaptic
[02:55] <AlexRM> such as panel buttons
[02:55] <poningru> AlexRM: hmm yeah that I dont know about
[02:56] <ompaul> folki, you should have a message from ubotu about how you can install up to 17500 packages for Breezy
[02:56] <AlexRM> poningru, I got an idea .... I can take my theme and change the actual button image :P
[02:56] <poningru> I am sure you can do it but I have no idea how to do that perhaps some of the more expert graphics hackers can answer this question
[02:56] <poningru> AlexRM: also if this place doesnt work out try the gnome irc server
[02:56] <poningru> irc.gnome.org #gnome
[02:57] <AlexRM> cool ok
[02:57] <dabaR> ubotu: tell AlexRM about themesforums
[02:57] <poningru> folki: what is the ext on that binary?
[02:57] <poningru> folki: as in what is the 3 letters at the end of the filename
[02:57] <poningru> after the dot
[02:58] <Millenniumgroup> hi, how do I delete something that tells me: "cannot delete vmware - is a directory" I've tried sudo rm and sudo chmod 777 vmware, still it complains, any ideas?
[02:58] <poningru> Millenniumgroup: sudo rm -r vmware
[02:58] <folki> ext is zip
[02:58] <Millenniumgroup> ok trying
[02:58] <AlexRM> dabaR, WOW, that theme that guy is running is amazing! do you know what it is??
[02:58] <dabaR> no idea, i use openbox
[02:58] <poningru> folki: yeah thats just a archive file
[02:58] <rob_> when i click places > network servers, i get a prompt asking me for a password to connect to the ip address that corresponds to my own computer? and when i put my password it it repeatedly asks the same question over and over
[02:58] <poningru> folki: try double clicking on it
[02:58] <Millenniumgroup> tx buddy :)
[02:59] <chris__> any1 help with this
[02:59] <chris__> vncviewer: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: canno t open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:59] <poningru> Millenniumgroup: no prob dude
[02:59] <folki> I have just download it and at page is written that the type of package is binary
[02:59] <poningru> folki: what is the full name of that file?
[03:00] <poningru> folki: people usually compress their binaries to make it easier to download
[03:00] <poningru> !zip
[03:00] <ubotu> poningru: I don't know
[03:00] <[raekw0n] > how do I install ubuntu 5.10 when I get sata_sil error
[03:00] <chris__> any1 help with this vncviewer: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: canno t open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:00] <poningru> chris__: you sure you have that lib at the right place?
[03:00] <chris__> um
[03:00] <chris__> not sure
[03:01] <poningru> hold on
[03:01] <Toma-> !pastebin
[03:01] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[03:02] <folki> Full name of that file is QDictionary-1.zip
[03:02] <poningru> folki: why do you need this thing?
[03:03] <poningru> because there are other dictionaries in the synaptic
[03:03] <chris__> poningru, and ideas?
[03:03] <poningru> chris__: hmm still looking
[03:03] <chris__> ok ty
[03:03] <poningru> that looks like a c std lib I think
[03:03] <poningru> yeah it is
[03:03] <poningru> doh
[03:04] <poningru> chris__: do you have build essentials package installed?
[03:04] <poningru> !build essentials
[03:04] <ubotu> poningru: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[03:04] <poningru> yes yes I did
[03:04] <poningru> when I was 3 actually
[03:04] <folki> It is not important why...but I want to learn how to install software in Linux because I have chaos there. Sometimes I use Synaptic Package manger, sometimes I have to unpack it and it is all, but I do not know how can I compile some binary files
[03:05] <poningru> you insensitive clod
[03:05] <poningru> ubotu: build
[03:05] <ubotu> If you want to build software, you need the build-essential package to start with
[03:05] <poningru> WHICH IS WHAT I ASKED YOU ABOUT YOU IDIOT
[03:05] <poningru> chris__: dude install the build-essential package
[03:06] <chris__> k
[03:06] <poningru> folki: ok well if you just
[03:06] <poningru> double click on that file
[03:06] <poningru> it should open up the archive manager
[03:06] <ompaul> poningru, the bot has no feelings so calling it names does not work :-)
[03:06] <poningru> from which you can just drag and drop the binaries to your filesystem and just use it from there
[03:06] <poningru> oh I think it does
[03:07] <poningru> :)
[03:07] <chris__> humm poningru how:$
[03:07] <[raekw0n] > what are my options if noirqpoll for ubuntu install won't work to get past sata_sil
[03:07] <dabaR> poningru: chill:)
[03:07] <linuxgeek2> !paste
[03:07] <ubotu> rumour has it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[03:07] <dabaR> chris__ install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 from universe
[03:07] <yuacht> hello. as i updated to the last kernel my sound isn't working and i can't install the nvidia kernel. I changed back from 2.6.12-10-k7 to 2.6.12-9-k7 and now my sound works again, but i still can't install the nvidia kernel, complains about me not having the kernel sources for my kernel. and i don
[03:07] <yuacht> 't know which package im supposed to install
[03:07] <yuacht> for the sources
[03:07] <poningru> chris__: just go to synaptic and search for that name
[03:08] <yuacht> or, i can't find a package WITH the right sources
[03:08] <poningru> hehe guys I was just kidding around with the yelling
[03:08] <chris__> its installed poningru
[03:08] <poningru> chris__: try what dabaR said
[03:08] <linuxgeek2> folks I trying to build libyahoo2 lib for source
[03:08] <linuxgeek2> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5372
[03:09] <linuxgeek2> I get the error message when I type make
[03:09] <poningru> folki: I would say take a look at how to install software on ubuntu from the wiki
[03:09] <linuxgeek2> help
[03:09] <poningru> !tell folki about installing software
[03:09] <poningru> !tell folki about install
[03:09] <poningru> folki: thats not it
[03:09] <linuxgeek2> !libyahoo
[03:09] <ubotu> linuxgeek2: Are you on ritalin?
[03:09] <chris__> whats universe?
[03:09] <linuxgeek2> folks
[03:09] <poningru> !software
[03:09] <ubotu> poningru: What?
[03:09] <linuxgeek2> I have a prolem
[03:10] <in8> yuacht: I had to follow these directions to get some other sources - http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-77889.html
[03:10] <linuxgeek2> help
[03:10] <linuxgeek2> me
[03:10] <linuxgeek2> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5372
[03:10] <dabaR> poningru: folki :  check out my page: http://dabar.selfip.org/synaptic.html
[03:10] <dpupp> how do i change default players? i dont want soundjuicer handling my CDA.
[03:10] <wickedpuppy> !tell chris__ about repositories
[03:10] <yuacht> in8, i just dont understand, always worked for me before.
[03:10] <linuxgeek2> I am unable to build libyahoo
[03:10] <linuxgeek2> from source
[03:10] <wickedpuppy> linuxgeek2, what errors you got ?
[03:10] <chris__> wickedpuppy, and then i do what?, What is Universe???
[03:11] <in8> yuacht: Im really new to ubuntu, I was a mandrake user ;p
[03:11] <wickedpuppy> chris__, read that link
[03:11] <linuxgeek2> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5372 wickedpuppy
[03:11] <linuxgeek2> check out this http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5372
[03:11] <linuxgeek2> when I type make
[03:11] <poningru> in8: what are you trying to do?
[03:11] <folki> thank all for your advices
[03:11] <wickedpuppy> linuxgeek2, did ./configure ?
[03:11] <folki> I am learning how to do it
[03:11] <poningru> folki: anytime dont leave unless you have all the answers
[03:12] <linuxgeek2> wait let me paste that also wickedpuppy
[03:12] <in8> poningru: done already - installed hylafax server with apt-get
[03:12] <michele> dpupp: system -> preferencer -> removable drives
[03:12] <poningru> cool
[03:12] <poningru> nm
[03:12] <poningru> who's next in line?
[03:12] <wickedpuppy> linuxgeek2, why not paste everything in one ??
[03:12] <poningru> woah a fios guy
[03:12] <dpupp> thanks michelle
[03:12] <chris__> wickedpuppy, thats for worty?
[03:12] <poningru> hows that fiber typpo ?
[03:13] <wickedpuppy> whats for warty ?
[03:13] <wickedpuppy> !repositories
[03:13] <typpo> it works ok
[03:13] <ubotu> somebody said repositories was How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list
[03:13] <folki> ok...but you told me I should read some manuals in internet how can  i do it so I am goiing to read it
[03:13] <wickedpuppy> chris__, that link ?
[03:13] <chris__> i dont understand i get 1 error bout missing so file
[03:13] <chris__> and pl tellin me to add to repos.?
[03:13] <linuxgeek2> ok
[03:13] <chris__> *ppl
[03:14] <wickedpuppy> chris__, you want to know whats universe ... lol
[03:14] <poningru> folki: go read it if it still doesnt satisfy you come back and ask
[03:14] <wickedpuppy> chris__, btw i didn't ask you to add any repo .. i just shows ya whats a universe repo
[03:14] <linuxgeek2> give a sec wickedpuppy
[03:14] <chris__> i was told to install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2
[03:14] <chris__>  from universe?
[03:14] <wickedpuppy> sheesh
[03:14] <poningru> chris__: your file is in the universe so you have to add universe to your repositories
[03:14] <folki> of course
[03:14] <folki> :-)
[03:15] <dabaR> chris__: universe is the community maintained free software repository.
[03:15] <wickedpuppy> then you got to add universe repository
[03:15] <poningru> wickedpuppy: dude dont assume that the user knows this stuff
[03:15] <poningru> explain it to him/her
[03:15] <wickedpuppy> poningru, i don
[03:15] <wickedpuppy> poningru, i let you do the talking then
[03:15] <wickedpuppy> :P
[03:16] <poningru> lol
[03:16] <chris__> am new to debian
[03:16] <chris__> im used to using a bunch of rpms
[03:16] <linuxgeek2> wickedpuppy, here you go
[03:16] <linuxgeek2> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5373
[03:16] <wickedpuppy> poningru, i don't like to hold hand cause they come back for every small damn problems they got when they can google or think for themselves easily
[03:16] <linuxgeek2> I have pasted both the output of ./configure and make
[03:16] <dabaR> chris__: you can install that exacct file. do you know how to install things in ubuntu?
[03:16] <rambo3> chris even other dist had apt
[03:16] <chris__> not really
[03:17] <linuxgeek2> wickedpuppy, ?
[03:17] <chris__> apart from apt-get
[03:17] <rambo3> !dpkg
[03:17] <poningru> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5253052326994067125&q=linux
[03:17] <poningru> chris__: how to add software
[03:17] <chris__> ty
[03:17] <Paradoxx> grr, how can i get wma files to run >.<
[03:18] <Paradoxx> !wma
[03:18] <ubotu> restricted is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[03:18] <strider_> Hey, has anyone got Azureus installed alongsie Eclipse?
[03:18] <wickedpuppy> linuxgeek2, libyahoo2.c:774: error: static declaration of 'yahoo_send_data' follows non-static declaration <-- this seems to be the error
[03:18] <poningru> chris__: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components
[03:18] <Paradoxx> !freeformats
[03:18] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, freeformats is There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[03:18] <dabaR> chris__: visit my page at htp://dabar.selfip.org/synaptic.html
[03:18] <Paradoxx> strider_: yes, me
[03:18] <poningru> chris__: what dabaR gave is the better page
[03:18] <strider_> Paradoxx, using the deb?
[03:18] <strider_> or the binary
[03:18] <ompaul> !tell chris__ about synaptic
[03:19] <Paradoxx> strider_: i think aureus was installed using binary, but eclipse useing deb
[03:19] <Paradoxx> strider_: if i recall correctly
[03:19] <ompaul> chris__, I just had the bot send you a message bout using synaptic have a look at that, being somewhat familar with linux you should have little difficulty with that
[03:19] <Raskall> why does nautilus hang when accessing autofs-ed nfs mounts? quite annoying.
[03:19] <sunnzy2> Does anyone know what program I can use to read reiserfs partitions from Windows?
[03:19] <chris__> ty
[03:20] <Dr_Acemaster> I installed kismet to monitor my wireless signal strength, is there no GUI?
[03:20] <dabaR> ompaul: it is a gnu program. linux is the kernel
[03:20] <sunnzy2> I need to copy some big files from Windows so I am wondering if I can do it without snipernet
[03:20] <ompaul> sunnzy2, there is a #windows channel I have no idea, maybe the reiser site might have some info on that :-)
[03:20] <strider_> ok. azureus from Debian has a naming conflict with Eclipse packages. Well inary then forme
[03:20] <strider_> Thanks Paradoxx
[03:20] <poningru> Dr_Acemaster: there is
[03:21] <Dr_Acemaster> poningru: it didn't seem to install any icons in my menus, how do I go about configuring it?
[03:21] <sunnzy2> ompaul, do you think windows people would know anything about reiserfs?
[03:21] <poningru> Dr_Acemaster: doh
[03:21] <ompaul> sunnzy2, don't know
[03:21] <Dr_Acemaster> poningru: I did open kismet.conf but couldn't make head or tails of it
[03:21] <kiko> hi!
[03:21] <poningru> Dr_Acemaster: you should install wifi-radar
[03:21] <Dr_Acemaster> poningru: it may have installed icons but I can't find 'em :)
[03:21] <poningru> not kismet its more complex than needed
[03:22] <rambo3> apt-cache search make ubuntu pretty |grep usless
[03:22] <poningru> !info wifi-radar
[03:22] <ubotu> wifi-radar: (graphical utility for managing Wi-Fi profiles), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.9.4-0ubuntu6 (breezy), Packaged size: 29 kB, Installed size: 200 kB
[03:22] <Paradoxx> strider_: np
[03:22] <kiko> i have a question
[03:22] <Dr_Acemaster> poningru: aight, is wifi-radar in synaptic?
[03:22] <Paradoxx> anyone has wma files work??
[03:22] <strider_> sunnzy2 : there are many. I've used a .NET GUI app (yarreg or something like that). Google for it
[03:22] <poningru> Dr_Acemaster: yes
[03:22] <Lunz> hi can someone please help me? I want to change my boot order in Ubuntu?
[03:22] <dabaR> Paradoxx: you need the w32codecs
[03:22] <Dr_Acemaster> poningru: ok thanks, will give that a try
[03:22] <poningru> if you enabled the universe and multiverse
[03:22] <dabaR> ubotu: tell Paradoxx about w32codecs
[03:22] <kiko> is easy
[03:22] <Dr_Acemaster> poningru: yes I did
[03:22] <Paradoxx> dabaR: but i have those installed, and yet still...
[03:23] <dabaR> Lunz: you want windowws to boot by defaul
[03:23] <poningru> Dr_Acemaster: then you should be able to get it
[03:23] <sunnzy2> strider, I am aware there are many... I just don't like trying out random programs on google...
[03:23] <holycow> *hmmm* i forgot the command to add a user to a particular group ... what is it again?  google is suggesting the use of 'useradd' which is stupid
[03:23] <poningru> Dr_Acemaster: make sure to run it under sudo
[03:23] <Lunz> yes dabaR that's right.
[03:23] <ompaul> Lunz, sudo >> nano /boot/grub/menu.lst << and change the number for "default"
[03:23] <rambo3> Lunz sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:23] <sunnzy2> No one talks in the windows channel...
[03:23] <Dr_Acemaster> poningru: how do I do that? run synaptic from terminal w/ sudo?
[03:23] <Sarkie> hi
[03:23] <kiko> dpkg -i gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg_0.8.2-1_i386.deb
[03:23] <kiko> and voil
[03:23] <bluewater1000> sunnzy2. copy the docs to a CD ,, other alt.. tranfer the docs to a vfat partition
[03:23] <poningru> Dr_Acemaster: hehe no I meant run wifi-radar after installation in sudo
[03:23] <kiko> you have to install w32codecs
[03:23] <kiko> dpkg -i gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg_0.8.2-1_i386.deb
[03:23] <Lunz> how do I know what number to change it to though?
[03:24] <kiko> that's the package
[03:24] <Dr_Acemaster> poningru: so needs to be run from terminal?
[03:24] <Sarkie> Right i have just installed Kubuntu desktop over Uubntu, now gnome is still on it, i have lost windows from boot up menu and gained maybe 3 other ubuntus, can some help me!!!!
[03:24] <holycow> oh nm there we go, adduser works
[03:24] <dabaR> Lunz: "sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst" and then read that file, it is self explanatory how to do it.
[03:24] <sunnzy2> bluewater1000, yes I do have a 5 GB usb stick
[03:24] <poningru> Dr_Acemaster: yeah after installation just go to the terminal and type in 'sudo wifi-radar'
[03:24] <Paradoxx> dabaR: i just tried to reinstall em, and it said "Reinstallation of w32codec not possible, it could not be downloaded"
[03:24] <Dr_Acemaster> poningru: well that's kind of pain, it won't run w/o sudo?
[03:24] <poningru> or if you want create a panel icon for it
[03:24] <Dr_Acemaster> poningru: well I'd like for it to start up auto
[03:24] <bluewater1000> sunnzy2 grins well that only 10 CDs
[03:25] <Dr_Acemaster> and tell me right from the get if I have any connections available
[03:25] <dabaR> Paradoxx: with apt?
[03:25] <Dr_Acemaster> and how strng they are
[03:25] <Paradoxx> yep
[03:25] <poningru> Dr_Acemaster: http://www.bitbuilder.com/wifi_radar/
[03:25] <Paradoxx> sudo apt-get install --reinstall w32codec
[03:25] <Lunz> alright I'll read it
[03:25] <dabaR> Paradoxx: aptitude search w32codecs. tell me whether there is a ii to the left of it.
[03:25] <strider_> sunnzy2 : I used this once for transferring a file. It worked for me http://yareg.akucom.de/
[03:25] <rambo3> http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/categories.php?func=gd_show_app_list&gd_sub_app_list=7
[03:25] <raid> hi all, need some printer setting up help here, anyone? Have to install a Canon ip1500 but i haven't really understood what cups, cupsys are... and how i have to use them, any1 could explain me?
[03:25] <kiko> paradox it easier to install gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg_0.8.2-1_i386.deb
[03:26] <kiko> dpkg -i gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg_0.8.2-1_i386.deb
[03:26] <kiko> type it in google
[03:26] <dabaR> kiko: not so.
[03:26] <Dr_Acemaster> poningru: will check it out, installin now, thanks
[03:26] <kiko> i install it yesterday
[03:26] <Paradoxx> dabaR: just an 'i' to the left of it
[03:26] <dabaR> ubotu: tell kiko about restricted
[03:26] <ompaul> sunnzy2, http://www.cfar.umd.edu/users/aravinds/tools.html
[03:26] <kiko> and now i'm listening wma
[03:26] <chris__> poningru, that page still didnt help me with my problem
[03:26] <valles> I'm having problems setting up LAMP... I tried the HOWTO in the WIKI but I can't get mysql to run after instalation
[03:26] <sunnzy2> strider, thanks man, it can write to reiserfs, can it?
[03:26] <Paradoxx> whats that mean?
[03:27] <dabaR> it means it is installed
[03:27] <Sarkie> Right i have just installed Kubuntu desktop over Uubntu, now gnome is still on it, i have lost windows from boot up menu and gained maybe 3 other ubuntus, can some help me!!!!
[03:27] <kiko> dabar i have a question
[03:27] <poningru> sorry guys I have to go
[03:27] <kiko> because when i'm not a superuser
[03:27] <valles> I'm having problems setting up LAMP... I tried the HOWTO in the WIKI but I can't get mysql to run after instalation
[03:27] <kiko> i can't listening to music
[03:27] <Paradoxx> dabaR: so what now?
[03:28] <mwe> valles: what happens when you type mysql -u root?
[03:28] <blizzkid> lo all. I've been googling for weeks, but can't find the solution. I would like to see a notification of incoming calls on my samsung d-500. Kmobiletools should do the trick, but after 15 seconds, it disconnects.
[03:28] <dabaR> Paradoxx: do you have universe and multiverse enabled?
[03:28] <holycow> woot!
[03:28] <holycow> brb
[03:28] <sunnzy2> ompaul, oh, that's the one I would use to write files?
[03:28] <chris__> vncviewer: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: canno t open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:28] <chris__> any1 help?
[03:28] <valles> mwe: let me chek exactly
[03:28] <xiaogil> Does the Aiport card work on Ubuntu breezy on Mac ibook g4 ?
[03:29] <ompaul> sunnzy2, I have no idea, it is just a link, the thing is that I don't / won't use windows so I can't test it
[03:29] <Paradoxx> dabaR: yep
[03:29] <sunnzy2> ompaul, alright
[03:29] <u|qos> hey guys ...
[03:29] <dabaR> kiko: what program do you use for playing music?
[03:29] <mgedmin> chris__, did you install vncviewer from source?
[03:29] <kiko> totem
[03:29] <u|qos> how do i add/remove a line to a file via bash?
[03:29] <dabaR> Paradoxx: I dont know. try "sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-~n"
[03:29] <kiko> and to watch films too
[03:29] <chris__> unless i installed from rmp then yes
[03:29] <valles> mwe: can't connect to local MYSQL server  through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[03:29] <Lunz> dabaR: my Microsoft Windows Xp is the 6th entry, so I would change the "Default" value to 6?? is that right?? to make Windows the default boot?
[03:30] <dabaR> either 6 or 5
[03:30] <dabaR> kiko: how did you install that .deb for ffmpeg?
[03:30] <mgedmin> chris__, there are no rpms nor rmps in Ubuntu
[03:30] <blizzkid> lo all. I've been googling for weeks, but can't find the solution. I would like to see a notification of incoming calls on my samsung d-500. Kmobiletools should do the trick, but after 15 seconds, it disconnects.
[03:30] <chris__> exatly
[03:30] <Lunz> yeh, I did start the counting from 0.. so it should be 6
[03:30] <ompaul> chris__, that is not the way with Ubuntu/ Debian, you should you use synaptic in a gui or apt-get command line
[03:30] <kiko> i don't know why
[03:30] <kiko> i don't know it
[03:30] <chris__> so yes i installed from source...
[03:30] <kiko> ffmpeg
[03:30] <kiko> is it good?
[03:30] <mgedmin> chris__, you should have used apt-get install xvncviewer
[03:30] <mwe> valles: hmm. is it running? try /etc/init.d/mysql start or /etc/init.d/mysql restart
[03:30] <Lunz> dabaR: Kool thanx mate.
[03:31] <mgedmin> chris__, try it now
[03:31] <ompaul> chris__,  jjust install it using the tools and then watch your problems go away
[03:31] <dabaR> kiko: that .deb you said you googled for, how did you install it, where did you download it from??
[03:31] <mwe> valles: run those with sudo though
[03:31] <sunnzy2> Alright, thanks guys, I guess I'll just copy it from Linux then
[03:31] <kiko> a second please
[03:31] <rob_p> u|qos:  Open the file using vi, nano, or pico, etc. and edit the unwanted line out.
[03:31] <chris__> apt-get install xvncviewerit actually wasnt source
[03:32] <chris__> it was compiled but had to run script
[03:32] <chris__> to move to another folder
[03:32] <Paradoxx> dabaR: it says " No candidate version found for gstreamer0.8-arts"
[03:32] <greatjones> hello, i am a total Linux newb, and I don't understand how to install firefox 1.5 - what does "tar -xzvf firefox-1.5.tar.gz" mean? those are the only instructions given on the firefox site to install the browser
[03:32] <valles> mwe: Starting MySQL database server: mysqld ... failed
[03:32] <u|qos> rob_p VIA bash ...
[03:32] <mgedmin> chris__, if you install software manualy (instead of using apt-get or Synaptic, or gnome-app-install), then you can expect these sorts of breakages
[03:32] <rob_p> u|qos:  In that case, cat the file, pipe it through grep and redirect the results to a new file!
[03:32] <rambo3> with vi
[03:33] <xored> iam searching for the KFTP-Grapper package, but it seems as packages.ubunutu... is down. can someone help
[03:33] <valles> mwe: Please take a look at the syslog (How do I do that?)
[03:33] <chris__> mgedmin, all i typed in console was "./vncinstall /usr/local/bin /usr/local/man"
[03:33] <ompaul> chris__, just do this >> sudo apt-get install xvncviewer <<
[03:33] <mwe> valles: hmm. time to check the logs to find the problem. /var/log/mysql.log and /var/log/mysql.err
[03:33] <rambo3> unless you want a new file. echo comecrap >> new.txt
[03:33] <mwe> valles: look at those in your favorite editor
[03:33] <chris__> ompaul, xvncviewer is already the newest version
[03:33] <u|qos> rambo3, i want that the new line will be attached to the old file
[03:34] <rambo3> why dont u use vi
[03:34] <rob_> once i attempt to share a folder going to "places">"network servers" gives me a prompt for a password to access my own computer's ip.  is it supposed to do this? i put in my password and it asks the question again, until i cancel, then and only then can see an icon for "windows network". is this normal. i don't understand what is going on
[03:34] <mycket> greatejones, you have the sourcepackage. Firefox is already on Ubuntu
[03:34] <kiko> http://pkg-gnome.alioth.debian.org/debian/pool/g/gst-ffmpeg/gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg_0.8.2-1_i386.deb
[03:34] <chrisx1> sorry wrong button
[03:34] <greatjones> mycket: i have version 1.0 on ubunto, and I wanted to upgrade to 1.5, is this possible?
[03:34] <u|qos> rambo3, cause its part of a bash script
[03:34] <chrisx1> but still its latest version
[03:34] <chrisx1> ill have to uninstall?
[03:34] <valles> mwe: they are empty
[03:35] <rambo3> w|qos it will add the line to the end of the file
[03:35] <ompaul> chris__, then type xvncviewer  <--
[03:35] <u|qos> rambo3, but how?
[03:35] <chrisx1> ompaul, look
[03:35] <chrisx1> chris@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ vncviewer
[03:35] <chrisx1> vncviewer: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:35] <chrisx1> chris@ubuntu:~/Desktop$
[03:35] <mwe> valles: hmm. try /var/log/messages then
[03:35] <mycket> greatjones, start synaptic and have a look what version is available. Compiling Firefox youself is difficult :-(
[03:36] <kiko> chris download it !
[03:36] <chrisx1> download what:S
[03:36] <rambo3> echo "some crap you want to add to the end of the file" >>FileToWriteTo.txt
[03:36] <valles> mwe: got it.. i can see it now
[03:36] <ompaul> chrisx1, lets do this again -see the letter X at the start>
[03:36] <kiko> libstdc++
[03:36] <ompaul>  xvncviewer
[03:36] <kiko> -libc6...
[03:36] <chrisx1> yer...
[03:37] <dabaR> u|qos: you want to append a line to a file?
[03:37] <mwe> valles: look near the end for anything that might indicate mysql errors
[03:37] <kiko> i have a question
[03:37] <ompaul> chrisx1, btw we paste in paste.ubuntulinux.nl not in the channel :)
[03:37] <kiko> how can i listening to music with totem
[03:37] <kiko> when i'm not the superuser
[03:37] <kiko> ?
[03:38] <rambo3> add your self to that gruop then
[03:38] <rambo3> that can listen to music
[03:38] <ompaul> kiko, I do all the time
[03:38] <greatjones> mycket: sorry to be so clueless, but I'm not able to figure out how to upgrade to version 1.5 with synaptic...
[03:38] <bluewater1000> greatjones: in console.. apt-get update then apt-get install firefox..
[03:38] <chrisx1> am out nm
[03:38] <_jason> greatjones, version 1.5 of what
[03:38] <chrisx1> cya
[03:38] <deFrysk> greatjones, see /topic
[03:38] <greatjones> _jason firefox
[03:38] <ompaul> kiko,  I use four different programs depending on my mood
[03:39] <greatjones> bluewater1000: i am a total newbie, I'm not sure what console is, but I think I have an idea, so I'll try
[03:39] <valles> mwe: nothing
[03:39] <u|qos> rambo3, but the content of the file will replaced each time
[03:39] <kiko> ok
[03:39] <greatjones> defrysk: ahh ok thank you
[03:39] <u|qos> rambo3, totaly overwritten
[03:39] <mwe> valles: you did run the /etc/init.d/mysql start/restart with sudo, right?
[03:39] <mycket> greatjones: Hm, it doesn't seem to be available. but google found thist: http://lxer.com/module/newswire/lf/view/45917/
[03:40] <valles> mwe: you said no sudo
[03:40] <dabaR> u|qos: what command do you use?
[03:40] <greatjones> mycket: i just did /topic and it says that firefox 1.5 is not yet avaliable
[03:40] <greatjones> mycket: thank you for your help, i appreciate it very much
[03:40] <juan> hola
[03:40] <deFrysk> !es
[03:40] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:40] <rob_> i'm having a problem with network servers in the places menu
[03:40] <mycket> gratjones, good luck!
[03:40] <mwe> valles: well sorry. it should be run with sudo
[03:41] <valles> mwe: i get the same error
[03:41] <valles> mwe: can't connect to local MYSQL server  through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[03:41] <mwe> valles: chech /var/log/syslog too
[03:41] <u|qos> dabaR, i got it :) but how do i remove the added line in an later step?
[03:41] <mwe> valles: near the end of the file
[03:41] <rambo3> u|qos ask in php or something , it doesnt replace in my files so i dont know what you are doing
[03:41] <bluewater1000> greatjones: firefox 1.5 may not be in ubuntu debs yet,, it always takes a wee bit of time
[03:42] <rambo3> is that some new kind of debs?
[03:43] <dabaR> rambo3: yes.
[03:43] <heien> Hi all. just connected my bluetooth dongle to my ubuntu pc. How do i pair it with my nokia?
[03:43] <valles> mwe: ok I can see some things....
[03:43] <marky> how can i join another rooms?
[03:43] <Exxcaliber> heien, have you got a program callede gnome-obex?
[03:43] <valles> mwe: can 't create lower-test
[03:44] <Exxcaliber> marky, just type "/join #roomname"
[03:44] <mwe> valles: yes. if you don't know what the errors mean, post them on the pastebin site
[03:44] <kiko> when i try to listening to music with totem, it gives me this error can't open resource for writing
[03:44] <heien> gnome-obex-se
[03:44] <heien> Exxcaliber,
[03:44] <kiko> can somebody help me?
[03:44] <Exxcaliber> heien okay..
[03:44] <lysis> with?
[03:44] <kiko> when i'm not the superuser
[03:44] <valles> mwe: pastebin site?
[03:44] <mwe> valles: I'll look at it and see if I can help you
[03:44] <mwe> !paste
[03:44] <ubotu> paste is probably please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[03:44] <Exxcaliber> well, go to Programs -> System utilities and Bluetooth manager
[03:44] <Exxcaliber> heien,  ^
[03:44] <lysis> when you're not the superuser . . . .
[03:45] <kiko> yes
[03:45] <mwe> valles: the site ubotu just showed
[03:45] <kiko> when i'm root it works fine
[03:45] <lysis> what do you want help with about that?
[03:45] <lysis> i just entered channel buddy; i don't know what you're talking about. =)
[03:45] <kiko> i have to changes permissions
[03:45] <mwe> valles: then paste the url in here
[03:45] <u|qos> dabaR, how do i remove a special line from a config file via bash?
[03:45] <Exxcaliber> heien, it should show your nokia phone, IF you have activated bluetooth on your cell?
[03:45] <kiko> but i don't know where
[03:45] <heien> "Could not find bluetooth devices on the system"
[03:45] <lysis> kik, what is it that works fine for you
[03:45] <kiko> ok lysis
[03:46] <heien> Do i have to reboot, or run a command, after plugging my dongle?'
[03:46] <Exxcaliber> heien did you activate the bluetooth ability on your cell?
[03:46] <kiko> when i try to listening to music with totem, it gives me this error can't open resource for writin
[03:46] <heien> Exxcaliber, yes
[03:46] <Exxcaliber> heien, no it should detect it by itself.. atleast that's what mine did
[03:46] <kiko> when i'm a normal user
[03:46] <lysis> did you copy the music off of a disc?
[03:46] <kiko> yes
[03:47] <lysis> i had the same problem, the music when it's copied off of a cd/dvd (as mp3s already on the disc as data) will copy over with the same permissions you have from the cd. READ ONLY
[03:47] <Exxcaliber> but heien, on my cell i can change wether my cell should be detectable or not.
[03:47] <Raskall> why on earth does nautilus hang on some automounted nfs directories?
[03:47] <heien> Exxcaliber, i plugged the dongle in, installed gnome-bluetooth, and now i get that error. is there any command where ubuntu shows what is plugged in?
[03:47] <lysis> so you must open terminal and sudo chown [your username]  -R [the directory where you put all the music] 
[03:47] <kiko> but why does totem have to write in this files?
[03:47] <Exxcaliber> yep, lsmod
[03:47] <valles> mwe: not much I can find there
[03:47] <heien> Exxcaliber, yes, mine to, but, i cant even start the program
[03:47] <lysis> just in case you request it to change id3 tags or something of the sort
[03:47] <Exxcaliber> ok
[03:47] <Exxcaliber> strange..
[03:47] <lysis> if totem doesn't have full power over the files, it'll just not open them
[03:47] <valles> mwe: it seems like something is running
[03:48] <mwe> valles: no? no errors?
[03:48] <kiko> aha
[03:48] <valles> mwe: it seems like something is running and it won't let anything els run
[03:48] <lysis> not the same with dvd discs of course . . . . but mp3's it runs differently.
[03:48] <valles> mwe: I have got error aplenty ... but
[03:48] <kiko> thanks i'm going to changes permissions in these files
[03:48] <Geeek> anybody can help me witn ubuntu installation?
[03:48] <valles> mwe: the pastebin does not have a thing on them
[03:48] <kiko> but it's wma
[03:49] <linuxgeek2> wickedpuppy, hi
[03:49] <linuxgeek2> u there
[03:49] <linuxgeek2>  ?
[03:49] <lysis> if it's wma you'll need to get codecs to play that
[03:49] <heien> Exxcaliber, bluetooth              43012  4 rfcomm,l2cap
[03:49] <lysis> i still haven't gotten wma files to work for me yet
[03:49] <Exxcaliber> hmm..
[03:49] <lysis> so i don't know what codecs you need.
[03:49] <kiko> i have download them
[03:49] <mwe> valles: you're supposed to paste the relevant part of the log on the paste site. then paste the url to your post here, so I can look at it
[03:49] <kiko> and they work fine
[03:49] <Exxcaliber> heien, what i usually do is to go to a terminal and type gnome-obex-send
[03:49] <laprag> I'm struggling getting AMD64 Breezy onto a box. It thinks the root partition is a swap partion :/
[03:49] <kiko> i have installed all the codecs
[03:50] <rob_p> u|qos:  The line you will be removing from the config file... does it contain a unique string of characters that could be used by grep, to identify it?  If so, you could do, "cat config_file | grep -v 'some_unique_string' > new_file; mv new_file config_file" and the line containing that string will be gone.  Or use awk.
[03:50] <lysis> ok.
[03:50] <lysis> you should be good to go then.
[03:50] <AzMoo> How can I install a truetype font that I've downloaded?
[03:50] <lysis> let me know which codec you need for wma.  *laughs*
[03:50] <ubuntulnx> hi! any reason for having such an old version of Cohen's bittorrent client in ubuntu breezy?
[03:50] <maffju> i have serious problems installing the nvidia drivers on my notebook
[03:50] <Exxcaliber> heien, then a window pops up, and my phone shows up on the list
[03:51] <eViL_> Can anyone tell me how to install j2re 1.5 on Ubuntu 5.10 (don't know how, since it doesent come with rpm)
[03:51] <eViL_> ?
[03:51] <mwe> maffju: did you follow the wiki?
[03:51] <maffju> mwe, yes
[03:51] <maffju> mwe, i also tried installing the original nvidia binaries
[03:52] <heien> Exxcaliber,  an empty window
[03:52] <mwe> maffju: I don't have an nvidia card, sorry. I just wanted to point you to the wiki if you hadn't seen it already
[03:52] <kiko> lysis i have installed this package 'dpkg -i gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg_0.8.2-1_i386.deb'
[03:52] <Get> how secure is it to rezie to windows partiotion with the ubuntu installer?
[03:52] <treefrog> eViL_:  have you read the unoficial howto page?
[03:52] <Exxcaliber> what happens when you press the update button.. doesn't your phone show up?
[03:52] <kiko> to play w32codecs
[03:52] <eViL_> where ?
[03:52] <AzMoo> eViL_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-68565ae07a003332e82c9f23706638777396c249
[03:52] <eViL_> thanks
[03:52] <mustard5> ubotu: tell eViL_ about javadeb
[03:52] <eViL_> I'll read
[03:52] <eViL_> whats javadeb ?
[03:52] <mustard5> eViL_, check the PM from ubotu too
[03:53] <lysis> and that will do the wma?  hmmm
[03:53] <mwe> Get: there are no guarantees, but I hear it's safe
[03:53] <mustard5> eViL_, its a deb package to install java
[03:53] <kiko> when i'm root it works fine
[03:53] <Geeek> anybody can help me witn ubuntu installation?
[03:53] <kiko> i'm going to change permissions
[03:53] <kiko> and voila
[03:53] <mustard5> eViL_, rather than downloading from the Sun java website
[03:53] <valles> mwe: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5375
[03:53] <kiko> does somebody work in image processing systems?
[03:53] <valles> mwe: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5375
[03:53] <treefrog> eViL_:  also do a search in the ubuntu forums.. They are full of tips and howtos
[03:54] <eViL_> whetre can I find the *.deb ???
[03:54] <eViL_> ok
[03:54] <eViL_> thanks everyone
[03:54] <Urthmover> yw
[03:54] <mustard5> eViL_, did you get a pm from ubotu?
[03:54] <Get> mwe, ok
[03:54] <lysis> kiko, what kind?
[03:54] <Urthmover> http://www.nofadz.com/mst3k.m3u
[03:54] <eViL_> yes
[03:54] <mustard5> eViL_, the link to the .deb package is in the message from ubotu
[03:54] <Urthmover> MST2K free 24/7 stream
[03:54] <Urthmover> :-)
[03:55] <maffju> how can i use gcc-3.x instead of gcc-4 when installing the nvidia driver?
[03:55] <eViL_> ok
[03:55] <eViL_> thanks
[03:55] <treefrog> you got to love that bot
[03:55] <eViL_> yea
[03:55] <rhalff> hi i've compiled the nvsound kernel module, but when I restart ubuntu seems to delete the module, what script is doing this ?
[03:55] <kiko> what kind of image processing systems
[03:55] <kiko> ?
[03:55] <Exxcaliber> heien?
[03:56] <lysis> kiko, correct
[03:56] <heien> Exxcaliber,
[03:56] <kiko> i work with idl interactive data language
[03:56] <kiko> in astronomy
[03:56] <heien> There is a window opening, but it doesnt show my  phone.
[03:56] <Exxcaliber> Okay..
[03:56] <kiko> do you know it ?
[03:56] <valles> mwe: it seems like it is missing something...
[03:56] <pantz> anyone know how automounting of camera flash cards is done with ubuntu?
[03:56] <lysis> kiko, not at all. sorry.
[03:56] <kiko> and i have installed it in ubuntu
[03:57] <Exxcaliber> Strange, well, you should search the developer mailing list for info, on the program..
[03:57] <kiko> and i have problems
[03:57] <Paradoxx> any1 know of an app i can use to convert wma to mp3??
[03:57] <pantz> i want to change one of the mount options - the annoying new one that gives all of my pictures uppercase names
[03:57] <mwe> valles: yeah. try some brute force. first get a root prompt. sudo -i
[03:57] <kiko> i have atyradeon
[03:57] <holycow> anyone here manage to setup a wacom with pressure sensitivity properly on breezy?
[03:57] <heien> Exxcaliber, thx for your help anyway.. :)
[03:57] <Exxcaliber> There's a link to the website at the Bluetooth filesharing program
[03:57] <Exxcaliber> np
[03:57] <lysis> do you need help with programming kiko?
[03:57] <kiko> yes
[03:57] <kiko> but with idl programming
[03:57] <valles> mwe: got it
[03:58] <mwe> valles: then killall -9 mysqld
[03:58] <u|qos> does nobody know how to remove a special line from a config file via bash?
[03:58] <lysis> unfortunately i don't know any programming.
[03:58] <kiko> i'm doing an application to show the venus express images
[03:58] <valles> mwe: no process killed
[03:58] <rob_p> u|qos:  I already told you!
[03:59] <kiko> but it doesn't work in linux yet
[03:59] <kiko> :))))))))
[03:59] <paul_> I've got a Nvidia Geforce4 Ti, and I've installed the official Nvidia drivers. Apparently my systems set up to do indirect rendering in OpenGL. Anyone know how I set it up to render directly?
[03:59] <mwe> valles: hmm
[03:59] <lysis> lol
[04:00] <u|qos> rob_p , sorry i missed that
[04:00] <fissy> paul_, did you change the driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[04:00] <paul_> Yeah, set to nvidia now not nv
[04:00] <rob_p> u|qos:  There are probably better ways but that will work.
[04:00] <ubuntulnx> hi! any reason for having such an old version of Cohen's bittorrent client in ubuntu breezy?
[04:01] <valles> mwe: read this ----:.  051204 10:31:31 Do you already have another mysqld server running on socket: /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock ?
[04:01] <ompaul> ubuntulnx, it was synced from sid betwen october and april
[04:01] <valles> mwe: read this ----:   051204 10:31:31 Do you already have another mysqld server running on socket: /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock ?
[04:01] <mwe> valles: yeah
[04:02] <mwe> valles: still have the root prompt?
[04:02] <valles> mwe: yeah
[04:02] <Toma-> anyone know how to disable certain modules? like 'fan' and 'thermal'?
[04:02] <valles> mwe: I should purge all previous instalations I guess...
[04:02] <u|qos> rob_p, thx i got it ... :)
[04:03] <theine> Toma-, try putting them in /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[04:03] <fissy> paul_, got nvidia-glx installed?
[04:03] <Toma-> theine: i do believe theyre getting loaded before hotplug
[04:03] <ubuntulnx> ompaul, it seems we have 3.4.2 (1 year old already??) when 4.2.x is available..
[04:03] <Toma-> but ill give it a bash anyway
[04:03] <valles> mwe: to unistall I went through the synaptic package manager and manually selected each package...
[04:03] <laprag> hmmm, why would the installer think to use (hd1,0) and not (hd0,0) in menu.lst?
[04:03] <ompaul> ubuntulnx, is it in debian sid?
[04:03] <theine> Toma-, then perhaps check out /etc/init.d/acpid
[04:03] <mwe> valles: try deleting /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock then /etc/init.d/mysql start
[04:04] <mwe> valles: you upgraded from a previous version?
[04:04] <Toma-> theine: not getting loaded there either ;) im using initng
[04:04] <valles> mwe: I dunno ... I started
[04:04] <theine> Toma-, don't know initng, but does it not execute any of the scripts in /etc/init.d ?
[04:04] <valles> mwe: I'lll erase it but how do I do that from bash
[04:05] <Toma-> nope. different/faster init script system
[04:05] <mwe> valles: rm /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock from the root prompt
[04:05] <ompaul> ubuntulnx, ubuntulnx could not sustain its release cycle if it was to go off and get the bleeding edge of anything that is why unless you are tracking a program for a release that you usually will not see new software in releases of distros, or at least that is my understanding of it all
[04:05] <theine> Toma-, so what would be the analog of /etc/init.d/acpid ?
[04:05] <Toma-> nah i think its getting loaded with the kernel... but ive put the acpi=off in the kernel args tho
[04:06] <SockerFot> i am sorry that im asking for help all the time, but how do i open/execute a tar.gz file? what commando is it? and is there any list anywhere with useful commandos?
[04:06] <Toma-> theine: ive totally disabled acpi i think. turned it off in bios, stopped running its init script but those 2 modules are still getting called for
[04:06] <theine> Toma-, anyway, I guess the proper way to do it on a non-initng system is to edit /etc/default/acpid and to put only the desired modules there
[04:06] <xxenon> can I prevent dhclient from fetching DNS info ? (I don't want it to change my resolv.conf)
[04:07] <valles> mwe: rm: cannot remove `/var/run/mysqld.sock': No such file or directory
[04:07] <theine> Toma-, and you also pass acpi=off to the kernel?
[04:07] <mycket> SockerFot, tar -xvzf filename.tar.gz
[04:07] <Toma-> theine: indeed.
[04:07] <SockerFot> okey mycket thanks
[04:07] <mwe> valles: /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock
[04:07] <ompaul> SockerFot, what are you trying to open what is the package called there may be a native version for Ubuntu
[04:07] <mwe> valles: you typed the wron path
[04:07] <SockerFot> rarlinux-3.5.1.tar.gz
[04:08] <theine> Toma-, as a last resort you can always delete those modules from /lib/modules ...
[04:08] <Toma-> yehh... or rename them ;)
[04:08] <valles> mwe: nope ... nothing there
[04:08] <theine> Toma-, whatever you prefer
[04:09] <valles> mwe: rm: cannot remove `/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock': No such file or directory
[04:09] <mwe> valles: did you run cd /usr && sudo bin/mysql_install_db --user=mysql at some point during installation?
[04:09] <Toma-> time to see what happens! :O
[04:10] <valles> mwe: no
[04:10] <mwe> valles: you should
[04:10] <SockerFot> damned hell, how do i unrar these files? when i try to open a .rar-file, the program says its not supported
[04:10] <rob_p> Toma-:  Are the modules listed in /etc/modules?  If so, maybe remove them from that file and then modprobe -r them.
[04:10] <valles> mwe: can I do that now or do I have to start from scratch
[04:10] <mwe> valles: did you thoroughly follow the wiki?
[04:10] <Sarkie> whats the command for command window?
[04:10] <Sarkie> i.e. in windows cmd
[04:10] <mwe> valles: you should be able to do it now
[04:11] <ompaul> SockerFot, okay, it appears that 3.5.4 is the latest of that, so unless you know of issues I would not use that one. http://www.rarlab.com/rar/unrarsrc-3.5.4.tar.gz
[04:11] <Toma-> hotplug didnt solve it :S
[04:11] <valles> mwe: I did....
[04:11] <SockerFot> ompaul, yeah but anyway, how do i use the program?
[04:11] <mgedmin> SockerFot, apt-get install unrar
[04:11] <ompaul> SockerFot, where that one = the one you have
[04:11] <valles> mwe: the problem is... I did not see a
[04:11] <mgedmin> SockerFot, and if that doesn't work, apt-get install unrar-nonfree or apt-get install rar
[04:12] <sls_> has anyone installed the fedora directory server in ubuntu?
[04:12] <termo> hmm, not sure about this:
[04:12] <SockerFot> mgedmin, i already installed unrar-nofree, the problem is that i dont know how i should use it?
[04:12] <ompaul> SockerFot, you were told by <mycket> SockerFot, tar -xvzf filename.tar.gz you when you get inside that you will get more ideas
[04:12] <mwe> valles: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP about a page down it tells you to run that
[04:13] <ubuntulnx> ompaul, it looks like it was depreciated favoring btdownload.bittornado??
[04:13] <ompaul> SockerFot, such as what it is that is within the file is is C source perl or soemthing lesle
[04:13] <termo> when I want to add multiverse packages to my distro. Will it suffice to add "multiverse" behind my breezy-distro line?
[04:13] <valles> mwe: I on it
[04:13] <termo> or will I have to add the backports distro as well?
[04:13] <SockerFot> ompaul, eh? i dont understand anything?
[04:13] <mwe> valles: excuse me?
[04:14] <Toma-> is there a way to search within a group of files for a particular string?
[04:14] <SockerFot> i just want to know how i should extract this file. its one file packed in 50 different rar-archives. and i cant open any of them, because it says that the file is not supported or something like taht
[04:14] <ompaul> SockerFot, before I take this conversation further, what is it you need that file for?
[04:14] <termo> i.e. will this work in sources.list: http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse
[04:14] <eViL_> What is the best way to install a *.deb file (sory, I'm a slacker)
[04:15] <mycket> Toma-, grep wordyoulookfor *
[04:15] <Kaiser_Sleeps> dpkg -i
[04:15] <Kaiser_Sleeps> sudo dpkg -i debname
[04:15] <Toma-> ahh thanks :)
[04:15] <eViL_> ok thanks
[04:15] <Kaiser_Sleeps> np
[04:15] <termo> anytone?
[04:15] <mgedmin> SockerFot, open a terminal in that folder, then type 'unrar x *.rar'
[04:15] <valles> mwe: let me check
[04:16] <SockerFot> mgedmin, x? should i write x? okay
[04:16] <kbrooks> SockerFot, the full command
[04:16] <kbrooks> not type just x
[04:16] <SockerFot> kbrooks ?
[04:16] <SockerFot> but what is the full command?
[04:16] <SockerFot> the filename?
[04:16] <kbrooks> SockerFot, he told you
[04:16] <mgedmin> SockerFot, "unrar x filename" is the full command
[04:17] <Sarkie> How do i load up bash and such?
[04:17] <SockerFot> yeah i got that
[04:17] <SockerFot> ok
[04:17] <mgedmin> File Roller does support RAR archives, iirc
[04:17] <ompaul> SockerFot, do this:  mkdir rar; cd rar ; wget http://www.rarlab.com/rar/unrarsrc-3.5.4.tar.gz ; tar xzf unrarsrc-3.5.4.tar.gz; ls make* ::: read one of those make files and do whatever it demands of you
[04:17] <mgedmin> maybe it needs the 'rar' package instead of 'unrar' or 'unrar-nonfree'
[04:17] <valles> mwe: ok I did it
[04:18] <mgedmin> ompaul, rar is already packaged for Ubuntu
[04:18] <ompaul> mgedmin, ohh, did not notice it
[04:18] <mgedmin> in multiverse
[04:18] <ompaul> ahhh
[04:18] <valles> mwe: but i didn see that line of code...
[04:18] <valles> mwe: command I mean
[04:18] <mwe> valles: can you start /etc/init.d/mysql start now without errors?
[04:19] <slashx1896> Hey
[04:19] <_jason> SockerFot, unrar-nonfree is the package name (ther is also unrar-free but doesn't open latest rar files)
[04:19] <valles> mwe: i'll try it now and see ... Thnx for your undying patience
[04:19] <SockerFot> mgedmin, "bash: unrar: command not found
[04:19] <SockerFot> "
[04:19] <mwe> valles: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP about a page down it tells you to run that
[04:19] <slashx1896> I just downlaoded a .exe for my linksys router
[04:19] <slashx1896> how do i install it?
[04:20] <valles> mwe: no... still the same error
[04:20] <slashx1896> through terminal?
[04:20] <_jason> SockerFot, have you installed "unrar-nonfree" in synaptic/apt-get?
[04:20] <slashx1896> dpkg
[04:20] <sewoyl> hi, anybody having a 'characters skipped' issue when typing in xfce??
[04:20] <SockerFot> _jason, now i have
[04:20] <SockerFot> ill try again
[04:20] <sewoyl> this is really an annoyinh problem
[04:20] <valles> mwe: and the worst part is if I uninstall all packages... how do I know I unistalled Everything...
[04:20] <valles> mwe: no recidues...
[04:20] <sewoyl> it desn't happen in nome
[04:20] <sewoyl> Gnome
[04:21] <SockerFot> _jason, and now what the hell? it said there where no files to extract. LOL
[04:21] <mycket> slashx1896, you can't install ist. EXEs are for WIN and you have a linux System
[04:21] <_jason> SockerFot, the syntax is "unrar x filename"
[04:21] <slashx1896> I just installed a .exe file for my router (firmware) how do i install it? it wont let me run it
[04:21] <slashx1896> so what do i do?
[04:21] <_jason> SockerFot, if you wish you can use the archive manager (just double click on your file in nautilus)
[04:21] <SockerFot> yeah i did now
[04:21] <SockerFot> and it worked
[04:21] <mwe> valles: I'd reinstall mysql then, if I were you. sudo apt-get --purge remove mysql-server. then reboot, not really needed, but anyway. then sudo apt-get install mysql-server and run cd /usr && sudo bin/msyql_install_db --user=mysql
[04:22] <Thrashbarg> anyone ever got an EM8300 MPEG-2 decoder card working in ubuntu?
[04:22] <SockerFot> but hey man, the package name is "unrar-nonfree". i dont like the last word of that package. what is that supposed to mean?
[04:22] <slashx1896> i just got a .zip version and it came with .txt files and a .bin file
[04:22] <valles> mwe: i'll try taht
[04:23] <_jason> SockerFot, it's a closed format I believe
[04:23] <mycket> slash1896, did you read the txt file?
[04:23] <SockerFot> _jason, wich means?
[04:23] <_jason> SockerFot, doesn't have to do with costing anything
[04:23] <SockerFot> ok good
[04:23] <total_assault> where is the x config file in ubuntu breezy?
[04:23] <slashx1896> mycket, can i do it thoruhg linux if i have the .bin file? or can i only install it w/ windows
[04:24] <valles> mwe: I 'll reboot and be back in five....
[04:24] <mwe> total_assault: /etc/X11/xorg.con
[04:24] <mwe> total_assault: /etc/X11/xorg.conf that is
[04:24] <total_assault> mwe: ty
[04:24] <mwe> valles: ok
[04:24] <u|qos> i installed vsftpd and its running and accessible via lan, but i can't connect from internet to it ... are there any flags to set in a config file?
[04:24] <xored> i need to install libqt3c102-mt on breezy for skype, but there is no one in the reps Someone a tip ?
[04:24] <total_assault> mwe: touchpad config...
[04:24] <mwe> total_assault: yes. what about it?
[04:25] <total_assault> mwe: thats why i needed the location of x config
[04:25] <mycket> slashx1896, you could open a shell nad type ./xyz.bin (the filename) But if the firmware ist for WIN it wont work.
[04:25] <_jason> SockerFot, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-free_software
[04:25] <mwe> total_assault: yes. your touchpad is not working?
[04:26] <Thrashbarg> http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/graphics/em8300 <- should there be any reason why i cant find that in synaptic when i've got the miltiverse repository uncommented?
[04:26] <slashx1896> its a firmware upgrade and i figured i can do that thorugh my linksys config settings
[04:26] <total_assault> mwe: its working partly (was picking up double taps and no scroll) i installed synaptics driver have to config it
[04:27] <mycket> slashx1896, but linux has no drive C, no Folder Program Files etc. I guess you habe a WIN only Program.
[04:27] <mwe> total_assault: well I can post my xorg.conf on the paste site if you want it. my synaptics tp is working
[04:28] <Toma-> slashx1896: you have a .bin file right?
[04:28] <valles> mwe: back... from reboot..
[04:28] <Toma-> and a .txt...
[04:29] <Sarkie> say if i removed KDE from UBuntu and therefore didnt have konsole and such, how would i install packages?
[04:29] <mwe> valles: yes. and you uninstalled mysql-server first with apt-get --purge remove mysql-server?
[04:29] <valles> mwe: yeah
[04:29] <valles> mwe: now install ... what
[04:29] <Toma-> Sarkie: xterm
[04:29] <Sarkie> xterm is.....?
[04:29] <Toma-> or hit alt-ctrl-f2
[04:29] <valles> mwe: apt-get mysql-server ?
[04:30] <Toma-> sarkie its another "konsole" type of app
[04:30] <mwe> valles: then sudo apt-get install mysql-server then cd /usr && sudo bin/mysql_install_db --user=mysql. then pray
[04:30] <Sarkie> i did that and entered alt cretil f2 then apt-get install kde
[04:30] <Toma-> Sarkie: what are u trying to do exactly?
[04:30] <Sarkie> right i installed kubuntu,
[04:31] <Sarkie> then removed any remaining references to gnome
[04:31] <Sarkie> and one must have linked to kde cos it started removing some kde stuff
[04:31] <valles> mwe: ok... I'm installing
[04:31] <Sarkie> so i stopped it
[04:31] <Jxpx> anyone know where are the logs from the xchat?
[04:31] <Sarkie> and didnt have synapic or apti (there one) so couldnt install it
[04:31] <Toma-> Jxpx: /home/jxpx/.xchat2/
[04:32] <Jxpx> how can i view them?
[04:32] <bhearsum> is dapper the most recent ubuntu?
[04:32] <valles> mwe: installed... look at the last line... Checking for crashed MySQL tables in the background.
[04:32] <Toma-> Jxpx: text editor of your choice
[04:32] <maffju> Jxpx: cat ~/.xchat2/xchatlogs/
[04:32] <maffju> *
[04:32] <Jxpx> ok
[04:32] <Jxpx> thanks
[04:32] <Toma-> bhearsum: its a development version
[04:32] <bhearsum> ahhh
[04:32] <bhearsum> thats what i thought
[04:32] <Toma-> Sarkie: so you want to re-install kde?
[04:32] <mwe> well is it runnig?
[04:32] <Sarkie> well kunbutu
[04:33] <mwe> valles: did it start?
[04:33] <mwe> valles: ps -e|grep mysqld
[04:33] <Toma-> Sarkie: try "apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop" then "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[04:33] <rambo3> kill x server and re remove and the install with apt ?
[04:33] <Jxpx> Toma-, gedit  /home/jxpx/.xchat2/xchatlogs / and nothing
[04:33] <Sarkie> nothing comes up when i alt f2 and run a ccommnad
[04:34] <mwe> Toma-: kubuntu-desktop is just a meta package
[04:34] <Toma-> yes it is mwe.
[04:34] <mwe> Toma-: removing it wont actually remove any software
[04:34] <valles> mwe: IT WORKED...
[04:34] <Toma-> precisely what should happen
[04:34] <mwe> valles: good now set the mysql root password!
[04:34] <ackbahr> I have probs with a printer install in ubuntu (it's a foo2zjs printer) Can anyone help me? (I'm rather new to linux)
[04:35] <Toma-> Jxpx: you need to specify a filename in that directory
[04:35] <valles> mwe: ok... yesterday I did this.. and I screwed upt the thing
[04:35] <valles> mwe: it wouldn't use the password
[04:35] <Jxpx> and whta the name of the logs
[04:35] <mwe> valles: ok
[04:35] <Jxpx> or example
[04:35] <Jxpx> toma-.
[04:35] <BlueEagle> ackbahr: f002zjs? Who makes those?
[04:36] <mwe> valles: mysql -u root
[04:36] <Jxpx> the extension
[04:36] <valles> mwe: I'm inside now... as root...
[04:36] <Toma-> Jxpx: why dont you just browse to the directory? i dont know the exact filenames on your computer.
[04:36] <valles> mwe: you know how I came about installing again.. I had this problem with firefox...
[04:36] <Jxpx> beocuse i cant see in my home the  folder
[04:36] <Jxpx> :S
[04:36] <ackbahr> Well, that's the name of the GDI generic driver... It's actually a HP color laser jet (2600n)
[04:36] <BlueEagle> ackbahr: http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/
[04:36] <mwe> valles: then SET PASSWORD FOR 'root'@'localhost' = PASSWORD('newpwd');  newpwd beeing your new password
[04:36] <Jxpx> how can i make to see the folder , Toma- ?
[04:37] <valles> mwe: it tried saving my php file
[04:37] <Toma-> Jxpx: pop open nautalis and press ctl+h
[04:37] <mwe> valles: what?
[04:37] <Jxpx> oh thanks_!!
[04:37] <Jxpx> thanks Toma- !
[04:37] <BlueEagle> ackbahr: What is the name of your printer?
[04:38] <jimcooncat> setting up computer for friend's family -- what gui program can I call for the user to change their password?
[04:38] <Toma-> no probs
[04:38] <mwe> valles: you're in the root user account, using the mysql client and it tries to save your php file?
[04:38] <Lardarse> how do i mae modprobe look in the correct location for my nvidia.ko ?
[04:38] <Lardarse> make*
[04:38] <Toma-> Lardarse: what are u trying to do?
[04:38] <bhearsum> try depmod -a
[04:38] <Lardarse> trying to get my graphics card to work...
[04:38] <Lardarse> lardarse@phoenix:~$ sudo modprobe nvidia
[04:38] <Lardarse> FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile/nvidia.ko': No such file or directory
[04:38] <bhearsum> Lardarse: did you run the nvidia installer?
[04:39] <Toma-> Lardarse: have you installed the right packages?
[04:39] <Lardarse> Toma-: nvidia-glx and nvidia-settings
[04:39] <Toma-> and you did nvidia-glx-settings enable?
[04:39] <Toma-> or whatever it is
[04:39] <Lardarse> yip
[04:40] <mwe> valles: are inside the mysql client, as the mysql root user?
[04:40] <Toma-> err glx-config
[04:40] <Lardarse> yep, did that
[04:40] <Sarkie> ok for my kubuntu what if i cant get into KDE at all can i apt install from the login screen:
[04:40] <Sarkie> ?
[04:40] <Toma-> Lardarse: also, the nvidia module gets loaded buy itself in the xorg.conf file. so theres no need for a modprobe to be issued
[04:41] <Toma-> Sarkie: indeed you can
[04:41] <Sarkie> session type??
[04:41] <Toma-> what?
[04:41] <Sarkie> im in windows at the moment you see
[04:41] <Toma-> ahh
[04:41] <Sarkie> do i change the session type?
[04:41] <Lardarse> Toma-: when i have the driver set to nvidia, X doesn't load
[04:41] <Toma-> Lardarse: what card do you have?
[04:41] <Lardarse> 5200
[04:41] <Dr_Acemaster> I edited menu.lst for grub to add my splash screen w/ splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/ubuntu.xpm.gz but it just skips past the option screen now
[04:41] <dspstv> i have installed the server (base installation) on a pII, i will like to have some WM so i installed evilwm, also xserver-xorg but i get a can't open display error message
[04:41] <valles> mwe: no no no ... sorry ...
[04:42] <Toma-> fairly recent card right?
[04:42] <valles> mwe: I changed the password...
[04:42] <dspstv> could someone tell me what oother package i might need to get xorg up and running?
[04:42] <Toma-> Sarkie: yeh, goto failsafe
[04:42] <Lardarse> Toma-: i would say so :-)
[04:42] <mwe> valles: with the command I suggested? you need to run another command as well!
[04:42] <valles> mwe: I'll change the password for the other root user, right?
[04:42] <dspstv> xorg-common and xserver-xorg are installed
[04:43] <Sarkie> Toma- cheers
[04:43] <mwe> valles: it's the same root user but a differnet host mask
[04:43] <Toma-> Lardarse: im at a loss...
[04:43] <Toma-> have you tried to dpkg-reconfigure those packages?
[04:43] <total_assault> lardarse: you the same person from xtremesystems.org?
[04:44] <valles> mwe: how do I check the name of the root user mask
[04:44] <Lardarse> total_assault: who the f**k are they?
[04:44] <mwe> valles: first SET PASSWORD FOR 'root'@'localhost' = PASSWORD('newpwd'); if you didn't already, substituting your actual new password for newpwd
[04:44] <Lardarse> (that's a no..)
[04:44] <valles> mwe: that I did
[04:44] <mwe> valles: in the mysql client as the root user
[04:44] <mwe> valles: good . then
[04:44] <_jason> does anyone know of an easy (as in not changing code) way of changing the way firefox names the temporary download file?  Instead of it calling a file, file.part, I would like to have it .file.part.  I've tried google but no luck.
[04:45] <mwe> valles: SET PASSWORD FOR 'root'@'host_name' = PASSWORD('newpwd');
[04:45] <Sarkie> _jason get the code for firefox change it and compile it
 have you tried to dpkg-reconfigure those packages?
[04:45] <Lardarse> which ones?
[04:45] <valles> mwe: host name being
[04:45] <valles> ?
[04:45] <mwe> valles: host_name being your actual hostname
[04:45] <Toma-> nvidia-glx
[04:45] <total_assault> lardarse: i guess not, theres another person with you username on those forums, a couple thousand posts, and likes to make cascades to cool his computer (refrigeration that cools to -100C)
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> _jason,  make it save to a .directrty - if you really want them  hidden.
[04:45] <valles> I don't have one yet
[04:46] <Lardarse> total_assault: i don't do water-cooling
[04:46] <mwe> valles: what does SELECT Host, User FROM mysql.user; give you for root?
[04:46] <ompaul> dspstv, >> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg << >> sudo apt-get install gdm<< (there can be debate about this but essential if your going to use gnome) >> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop<< that should get you up and running (assuming the hardware is up to it) and of course if you have all that then there is this >>sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<< and now you should be reasonably happy
[04:46] <dspstv> ompaul, the last one is the one im needing
[04:46] <valles> mwe: got it
[04:46] <_jason> Dr_Willis, I didn't realize you could specifiy the download location of the temp file.  I just looked in prefs and can't find it.  Where can I specify the directory?
[04:46] <dspstv> since the rest is there
[04:47] <ompaul> dspstv, stop reading this and start typing
[04:47] <valles> mwe: two root accounts
[04:47] <dspstv> )
[04:47] <mwe> valles: good. the one that's not localhost
[04:47] <valles> mwe: great
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> _jason,  just tellit to save to a dir. :P not the desktop
[04:47] <mwe> valles: it's the same account
[04:47] <_jason> Dr_Willis, but then the files I download will go there too!
[04:47] <Lardarse> Toma-: i did that, no message was printed...
[04:47] <Toma-> thats ok. it worked.
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> _jason,  so..  big deal.
[04:47] <Toma-> try loading that module again
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> _jason,  make a "download" dir. and stay organized :P
[04:48] <valles> mwe: same password then ?
[04:48] <Toma-> also, this might sound weird, but have u tried a reboot?
[04:48] <mwe> valles: now not just everyone can access the database as root. you should be ready to start playing
[04:48] <_jason> Dr_Willis, lol well this isn't a big deal for me, I', just looking to make it function as I would like it too :P
[04:48] <mwe> valles: yes same password or you'll get confused when to use which
[04:48] <_jason> to*
[04:49] <bondo> I have a question about updating to a 64bit Ubuntu.. currently I have 5.10 ia32 installed and I would like to update to the 5.10 amd64
[04:49] <Lardarse> Toma-: i'll try that now...
[04:49] <opnsrc> I want to mount hde3 as a fat32 filesystem
[04:49] <opnsrc> I tried
[04:49] <rambo3> !php
[04:49] <ubotu> somebody said lamp was Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[04:50] <valles> mwe: I had...  I was using mysql ... my original problem was trying to get it to work with php... but firefox kept trying to download the php files
[04:50] <opnsrc> sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hde3
[04:50] <ompaul> bondo, be much better to have the install disk in your hand - so little to download so much to gain
[04:50] <bondo> I have the disc its a DVD
[04:50] <mwe> valles: ok. you should check your /etc/apache2/apache2.conf file to see if it handles php files correctly
[04:50] <ompaul> bondo, an
[04:51] <mwe> valles: does it still want to dl the php files?
[04:51] <qwerxy> hi all - noob problem - ubuntu prompted me to upgrade packages - so i did - now i can't startX - - any help gratefully received
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> ompaul,   using a correct mount command will be needed. :P
[04:51] <ompaul> bondo, be aware that you will have to learn how to run certain 32bit apps for music, dvds and suchlike
[04:52] <bondo> yeah thats no sweat... did you get my message I have the DVD for amd64
[04:52] <dspstv> ompaul, i have no startx command, i have all the xorg related files, o i think..
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> ompaul,  mount -t vfat /dev/hde3 /media/MakeThisDirFirst
[04:52] <opnsrc> but it gives me an error, it says A device can be given by name, say /dev/hda1 or /dev/cdrom, .....
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> dang it - i am off by one nick. :P
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> opnsrc, ,  mount -t vfat /dev/hde3 /media/MakeThisDirFirst
[04:53] <goonie> How do I remove the autoload of the ipw2200 driver? I've given up and I'm gonna try to use ndiswrapper instead
[04:53] <ompaul> dspstv, did you do the sudo dpkg thing?
[04:53] <opnsrc> thanks
[04:53] <dspstv> yea
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> goonie,  theres a module blacklist file  in /etc/- that prevents module from autoloading
[04:54] <rubem> hi there
[04:54] <bondo> Will I beable to boot of the DVD and choose to update off my DVD ?
[04:54] <opnsrc> mount point makethisdirfirst does not exist
[04:54] <bondo> or does it not work like that?
[04:54] <opnsrc> isn't it mnt
[04:54] <rubem> anyone know a good program for administration of mysql server?
[04:54] <goonie> Dr_Willis, thx, I'll have a look at that
[04:54] <rubem> like the Enterprise Managar of SQLServer?
[04:54] <opnsrc> isn't it mnt ?
[04:54] <ompaul> bondo, no you will rebuild it (as far as I know :))
[04:54] <bondo> oh okay well I will give it a whirl
[04:54] <drazzib> i've performance problems with the last update of kernel 2.6.15 of dapper.
[04:55] <ompaul> bondo, backup anything you want in home first
[04:55] <AlexRM> Hey
[04:55] <drazzib> my system seems really slow...
[04:55] <bondo> yeah thats where I put everything... and its a seperate HD
[04:55] <ompaul> bondo, and of course you have to have an AMD64 bit chip :-)
[04:55] <paul_> I've got a nvidia card and the official nvidia drivers but "glxinfo | grep direct" says that direct renedering is not activated. I've edited xorg.conf to comment out DRI and keep glx in. Any ideas?
[04:55] <AlexRM> Is there an MP3 Volume Leveler for Linux?
[04:55] <AlexRM> it's damm annoying that all my music are not at euql sound leveles
[04:55] <ompaul> bondo, motherboard and the rest
[04:55] <Toma-> drazzib: dont ask about dapper in here
[04:55] <bondo> lol... funny.... just installed it last night runs much better then my PIII 1.13
[04:56] <rubem> ???
[04:56] <dspstv> ompaul, the problem is that ubuntu-desktop brings down my things an i dont want anything relate dto gnome
[04:56] <valles> mwe: nope
[04:56] <valles> not working
[04:56] <drazzib> Toma> okay, is there a location people can discuss about it ?
[04:56] <dspstv> thats why i installed te server way
[04:56] <Lardarse> Toma-: didn't work
[04:56] <valles> what should I change in apache2.conf
[04:56] <dspstv> i just want evilwm
[04:56] <Phoul> How do i get JRE for ubuntu
[04:56] <Toma-> drazzib: the bug list?
[04:56] <Lardarse> X failed to load the nvidia driver
[04:56] <valles> mwe: what should I change in apache2.conf
[04:56] <Toma-> drazzib: being a tester u should know about these things :)
[04:56] <Toma-> Lardarse: damn it. :S
[04:56] <drazzib> Toma> :)
[04:57] <bondo> another funny thing is couple of my buddies got same stuff and had to reload all of windows ended up losing all there stuff. but not me I just recompiled the kernel and was done with it.
[04:57] <dspstv> then i got xor-common and xserver-xorg ...from there on dpkg-reconfigure
[04:57] <Phoul> Anyone know how i can get JRE for ubuntu
[04:57] <Toma-> !java
[04:57] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[04:57] <Toma-> !javadebs
[04:57] <ubotu> I heard javadebs is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[04:57] <Toma-> read them Phoul
[04:57] <mwe> valles: well if your php files are working you don't need to edit it
[04:57] <ompaul> drazzib, bit for help- it is not released if you are a developer and have those skills the people in #ubuntu-devel will welcome you if you are not they will ignore you as dapper is so new it is just not funny - it will break many times between now and April when it will be released
[04:57] <bondo> okay, off to try it.
[04:57] <ompaul> drazzib, s/bit/not
[04:58] <Lardarse> Toma-: any other ideas?
[04:58] <mwe> valles: but you need to edit the php.ini file to enable mysql in php
[04:58] <ompaul> dspstv, you could have a look at xdm this will allow graphical logins
[04:58] <Toma-> Lardarse: did you follow the wiki on nvidia?
[04:58] <Toma-> or did u make it up as u went?
[04:59] <drazzib> ompaul> ok, thanks. I'm a newbie tester for ubuntu :)
[04:59] <valles> mwe: that's in the wiki right
[04:59] <ompaul> dspstv, you should really have a look at xubuntu as it is build to give you a full system for low spec machines
[04:59] <mwe> valles: I think so, yes
[04:59] <Lardarse> i did the wiki rote twice (uninstalling after the first time)
[04:59] <Toma-> hmm
[04:59] <ompaul> drazzib, well it will die many times - a couple of days it did not even boot
[04:59] <goonie> Dr_Willis, I can't find this blacklist in /etc .... what is the filename?
[04:59] <qwerxy> hi all - is there a way to "reset' all packages using apt-get - just like a virgin install? :)
[05:00] <valles> mwe: well I think I read for a while and Let you have peace...
[05:00] <dspstv> ompaul, but i dont need any graphical logins i just will like a simple startx, bu the command is missing dunno why
[05:00] <drazzib> ompaul> same here :)
[05:00] <valles> mwe: Should I have a problem I'll let you know
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> goonie,  try a ls -R | grep black
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> goonie,  it may be in /etc/modules? i was thinking it was in /etc/ - let me ssh to my linux boxen
[05:00] <Toma-> goonie: /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[05:01] <drazzib> ompaul> but I want to find the source of thoses really annoying performance issues
[05:01] <AlexRM> Is there an MP3 Volume Leveler for Linux?
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> Toma-,  heh - i would of never guessed that one.. :P was looking for /etc/modules/blacklist
[05:01] <goonie> Dr_Willis, no result
[05:01] <Toma-> drazzib: probably a memory leak. google the buglist and/or file a bug
[05:01] <Toma-> :P
[05:01] <drazzib> :)
[05:01] <ompaul> dspstv, well have a look at xubuntu it uses gdm as the login manager it works well on a 500MHz PIII with 128megs of ram and an 8meg video card
[05:01] <drazzib> Already done without success
[05:02] <Toma-> AlexRM: something to normalise all mp3s or just single mp3s?
[05:02] <AlexRM> Toma-, All, I have hundres!
[05:02] <Toma-> drazzib: well file a bug and wait.
[05:02] <ompaul> dspstv, and provides xfce for the wm - when you understand that you can change it to anything you want
[05:02] <dspstv> ompaul, it comes with gnome..i dont need that...thats my problem.
[05:02] <Toma-> AlexRM: what are u using to play them?
[05:02] <mauper> don't you have to reencode for normalization ?
[05:02] <dspstv> it loads in all those gnomelibs
[05:02] <AlexRM> Toma-, XMMS, I hate XMMS! just there's no other Winamp style player :(
[05:03] <dspstv> or libgnomes
[05:03] <Jamy> Hi guys! I got a question for X server and XDMCP pros
[05:03] <Lardarse> Toma-: any idea why the hell modprobe would be looking in a folder called volatile ???
[05:03] <Exxcaliber> maybe volatile?
[05:03] <Exxcaliber> hmmm..
[05:03] <Toma-> Lardarse: because the nvidia module is a "volatile" module apprently. hang on a sec
[05:03] <drazzib> it's rally difficult to fill a bug without a real bug :) My workstation work fine, it's just really slow
[05:04] <ompaul> dspstv, xinit startx if you have the stuff configed but what I was saying was if you can't do it - let ubuntu do it with xubuntu-desktop and gdm which is not gnome just the login managler
[05:04] <drazzib> (and, yes, I've activated dma, looked at loaded drivers, monitor syslog, without success
[05:04] <drazzib> )
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> its a feature/thing where the  'tainted' kernels go - I do belive.
[05:04] <Lardarse> i don't even have a folder called volatile in /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386
[05:04] <Toma-> AlexRM: you could try beep media player, aka "bmp".... also, there are plenty of normalisation plugins for xmms and bmp
[05:04] <mgedmin> drazzib, is it slow because the CPU is hogged, or is it slow because the RAM is full and it is swapping all the time?
[05:04] <dspstv> ompaul, cool thanks for your time and help
[05:04] <mgedmin> the system monitor applet is very good for this
[05:04] <drazzib> not swapping, top
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> i THought vilatile was a  mounted thing sort of like /proc was - let me check
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> tmpfs on /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[05:05] <nox-Hand> Hey
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> or so the mount command says.. now what THAT meand.. im not sure..
[05:05] <ompaul> Jamy, if you don't ask you will not get any answers, that might be beginning to occur to you at this stage :-) and I will not anwer your question, a) I am going out the door now b) pro - hardly
[05:05] <drazzib> inot swapping, top is repporting high sys. utilisation
[05:06] <Toma-> Lardarse: have you got the linux-restricted-modules installed?
[05:06] <drazzib> without a process eating CPU :)
[05:06] <nox-Hand> My mates bottom process bar has gone. anyone know how to reopen it?
[05:06] <Lardarse> Toma-: don't know...
[05:06] <Jamy> I have a computer which will be used as a small server and a kind of multimedia station, playing flim and so on... I'd like to open several X session at a time because I wanna be able to play a DVD whereas my rommate will be working on his website other anything else working with another computer of the network
[05:06] <Toma-> Lardarse: use synaptic and search for it
[05:06] <olo> l
[05:06] <drazzib> but anyway, it's not the right channel for this question. I will report this thing and try to investigate that
[05:06] <mauper> nox-Hand: right-click on the panel, add ?
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> nox-Hand,  ya mean the application list - or the whole bottom panel?
[05:06] <qwerxy> hi all - i'm getting the error - could not open default font 'fixed' when trying to startx - any ideas? :)
[05:07] <Jamy> but I don't even know if it is possible to do
[05:07] <whyameye> I'm trying to choose the multiverse and universe repositories in synaptic on Breezy. I check them, click OK, get a few errors, then they are unchecked when I look again...
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> qwerxy, i saw MANY forum messages on that topic yesterday.
[05:07] <mgedmin> drazzib, you might want to look at the numbers in /proc/interrupts
[05:07] <mgedmin> it might be disk, or it might be network events
[05:07] <qwerxy> oh really Dr_Willis ?
[05:07] <mgedmin> if a counter next to an IRQ in /proc/interrupts changes a lot, you might see which device causes it
[05:07] <qwerxy> Dr_Willis: url?
[05:07] <nox-Hand> mauper: the whole bottom panel it gone..
[05:07] <eubenesa> hey guys
[05:08] <eubenesa> im on the partitioning part
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> qwerxy,  yea - vnc ervers have a similer issue. Seems in the vnc case. the default fonts path some how tog changed from Xfree86 to the x.org change.
[05:08] <Jamy> true ompaul but I was looking for my words ;-)
[05:08] <mauper> nox-Hand: hang on a sec ...
[05:08] <eubenesa> and i would like to do dual-boot with windows
[05:08] <nox-Hand> mauper: the whole bottom panel is* gone..
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> qwerxy,  but tht MAY not be the same case with your problem.
[05:08] <whyameye>  I'm trying to choose the multiverse and universe repositories in synaptic on Breezy. I check them, click OK, get a few errors, then they are unchecked when I look again...
[05:08] <eubenesa> how do i set my partition in the ubuntu installation?
[05:08] <qwerxy> Dr_Willis: well i just did a package update... and now my xwindows won't start...
[05:08] <eubenesa> im on the part where you choose the partitioning method
[05:09] <mgedmin> drazzib, vmstat 1 also shows a number of interesting stats -- if sys is > 5/10%, you might want to look at the interrupts column (1-2 thousand is normal)
[05:09] <rubem> anyone know a good media player? totem sux
[05:09] <Toma-> rubem: mplayer
[05:09] <ompaul> Jamy, you can and you have several ways of doing it - and the ones I would suggest would be klunky - one question have you two or three machines?
[05:09] <nox-Hand> amaroK
[05:09] <eubenesa> rubem: mplayer
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> qwerxy,  time to check the X logs and see.. and do some research..  somthing font-wise is buggered it seems. :(
[05:09] <nox-Hand> rubem: amaroK
[05:09] <whyameye> sorry, I don't get any errors. It's just that the multiverse and universe repositories don't remain checked...
[05:09] <qwerxy> Dr_Willis: buggered is right :) - -cool
[05:09] <eubenesa> toma-: will you help me on partitioning my hdd??
[05:10] <Toma-> eubenesa: sure
[05:10] <mauper> nox_hand: if there still is another panel, you can rightclick on it and add a new panel ...
[05:10] <mycket> eubenesa, grub will add your windows automatically. Install it in the MBR of your first HDD
[05:10] <mgedmin> qwerxy, there's a FAQ on the unbuntu wiki that says how to fix your problem
[05:10] <Toma-> eubenesa: how big is your hdd?
[05:10] <qwerxy> mgedmin: url?!?!
[05:10] <eubenesa> toma-: im on the partitioning method
[05:10] <Jamy> well I have got this server on linux and then 4 other computers which are linux and windows ones
[05:10] <drazzib> mgedmin> I will look this thinks. thanks.
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> qwerxy,  seen similer error for YEARS  - often using a 'font server' helps.. but thts sort of gotten out of favor it seems
[05:10] <qwerxy> mgedmin: please :)
[05:10] <eubenesa> toma-: 250gb sata
[05:10] <mgedmin> qwerxy, looking for it now
[05:10] <Jamy> ompaul : well I have got this server on linux and then 4 other computers which are linux and windows ones
[05:10] <eubenesa> toma-: im on the part where you choose your partitioning method
[05:10] <Toma-> eubenesa: nice. u'll want about 5gb for / and the rest for /home
[05:10] <mgedmin> qwerxy, try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[05:11] <qwerxy> mgedmin: thanks
[05:11] <Lardarse> Toma-: i do now... why do all of these f..... kernel numbers look th same :-(
[05:11] <eubenesa> toma-: do i choose manuel partitioning?
[05:11] <nox-Hand> mauper: Cheers, will try
[05:11] <Toma-> eubenesa: yes
[05:11] <mauper> nox-Hand: np
[05:11] <ompaul> Jamy, you should look at xnc - vnc - ssh - and exporting X across the wire - it depends on what machines do what jobs and what you really want to achieve how fast your network is and lots of other stuff
[05:12] <Toma-> Lardarse: because theyre all the same, just slightly different... expand the column and see that theres more after the numbers
[05:12] <eubenesa> toma-: there are options like raid, lvm, etc.
[05:12] <Toma-> eubenesa: none of them
[05:12] <Lardarse> Toma-: yeah :-S i found it now...
[05:12] <whyameye> how do I add universe and multiverse repositories in Breezy?
[05:12] <AlexRM> Hey, Guys I need a Good PHP Editor with GOOD synatx highlighting and functionlity, know of any?
[05:12] <eubenesa> toma-: so like level partitioning?
[05:12] <mauper> AlexRM: quanta not good enough ?
[05:12] <ompaul> Jamy, i.e. there are plenty of ways to do it, do you move files out to the local machines and back or do you do something else do you serve them across the wire and if so what speed is the lan and what happens when more than one machine tries to access data on the server (and it does not have to be the same data)
[05:13] <Toma-> eubenesa: level partitioning?
[05:13] <ompaul> Jamy, and with that I am off shopping
[05:13] <AlexRM> mauper, don't realy like it that much, is there an alternative?
[05:13] <mycket> AlexRM, (X)Emacs?
[05:13] <Jamy> ompaul : thanks
[05:13] <mauper> AlexRM: nedit ... scnr ;)
[05:13] <eubenesa> toma-: i meant guided partitioning
[05:14] <Toma-> Lardarse: whats the exact error again? what file is needed?
[05:14] <Toma-> eubenesa: yes
[05:14] <eubenesa> ok
[05:14] <Lardarse> FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile/nvidia.ko': No such file or directory
[05:14] <Lardarse> but it's there now...
[05:14] <Toma-> ahh sooper
[05:14] <Lardarse> i'm gonna try it again...
[05:15] <eubenesa> toma-: then it has resize scsi1, erase entire disk, erase entire disk and use lvm, use the largest free space, manually edit partition size
[05:15] <Toma-> eubenesa: you've installed something on it before?
[05:15] <eubenesa> yeah windows xp
[05:15] <Toma-> and you want to get rid of it?
[05:15] <eubenesa> but i guess i need to do a new installation after installing ubuntu
[05:15] <eubenesa> yeah i want to get rid of it
[05:15] <eubenesa> and get it back later with dual-boot
[05:16] <Toma-> i see.
[05:16] <eubenesa> should i go manually edit here?
[05:16] <Toma-> well, delete that partition firstly
[05:16] <Toma-> yes
[05:16] <eubenesa> ok
[05:17] <eubenesa> so erase entire disk?
[05:17] <Toma-> yep
[05:17] <eubenesa> with using lvm or no?
[05:17] <Toma-> yeh use lvm
[05:17] <eubenesa> now i have three partitions
[05:18] <Toma-> ...3?
[05:18] <Toma-> what are they called?
[05:19] <eubenesa> lvm vg ubuntu root, lvm vg ubuntu swap, and scsi1 sda
[05:19] <Toma-> ok delete all them
[05:19] <Akonkwa> I just installed ubuntu, and internet does not work. What can I do ?
[05:19] <eubenesa> ok
[05:20] <ggg> ggg hi, I wonder why wen I issue a set command in a terminal window inside GNOME the result is different from the output I get wen issuing the same command in a simple common login(no X).Does GNOME change my environment variables??
[05:20] <rambo3> play gnome games?
[05:20] <Jxpx> akonkwa
[05:20] <Dr_Acemaster> lmao
[05:20] <mycket> akonkwa, open a console and type sudo pppoeconf
[05:20] <Jxpx> u must configure the adsl
[05:21] <lysis> how can i merge my unpartitioned space into my current root partition without formatting?
[05:21] <Toma-> lysis: google ext3 resize
[05:21] <lysis> thank you sir.
[05:21] <Akonkwa> mycket : ok be right back
[05:22] <ggg> Hi, I wonder why when I issue a set command in a terminal window inside GNOME the result is different from the output I get wen issuing the same command in a simple common login(no X).Does GNOME change my environment variables??
[05:22] <eubenesa> toma- it doesnt let me do anything
[05:22] <eubenesa> toma- hold on
[05:22] <mgedmin> ggg, the other way around
[05:22] <Toma-> eubenesa: youre in the manual editing partionioner?
[05:22] <ggg> how is that?
[05:22] <daje> anyone know a good bittorrent client to use?
[05:23] <mgedmin> ggg, when you run something in a terminal, your .bashrc gets processed; when you run something directly from gone, .bashrc is not touched
[05:23] <mgedmin> ggg, if you need to set some environment variables for programs you launch with Alt+F2 or from the menus, then set them in ~/.gnomerc
[05:24] <ggg> well.. I had set JAVA_HOME and PATH variables in /etc/profile which works great in the alt-F2 f3 etc... I need same behavior inside GNOME
[05:24] <eubenesa> toma- yeah
[05:24] <ggg> I meant alt ctr F2
[05:24] <eubenesa> toma- be right back
[05:24] <Toma-> eubenesa: i gotoo go
[05:24] <Toma-> *got to
[05:24] <mgedmin> ggg, either set them in ~/.gnomerc also, or source /etc/profile
[05:25] <ggg> mgedmin, I need to set GLOBAL always true every user ALWAYS VALID variables... where would you suggest me to set them????
[05:25] <mgedmin> ggg, /etc/environment perhaps
[05:25] <ggg> yes! I put them in environment, but  inside GNOME, terminal dont see them!
[05:26] <mgedmin> ggg, you said you put them in /etc/profile, not in /etc/environment
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> in the gnome terminal - that should be reading the .bashrc and/or .bash_profile as well.
[05:26] <ggg> I tried both... no luck inside GNOME
[05:26] <mgedmin> hmm
[05:26] <mgedmin> ggg, did you log out & log in after you changed /etc/environment?
[05:27] <Lardarse> Toma-: it restarted fine, until the screensaver kicked in, and crashed the computer. i tried to hard-restart, but x crashed on loading, so i used grub to boot in recovery mode and reconfigure x to use the nv driver
[05:27] <ggg> I didnt touch(neither want to) any personal file... I want this variables to be available WORLD WIDE
[05:27] <valles> mwe: USER and GROUP in APACHE...  what are those?
[05:27] <Toma-> wow...
[05:27] <Lardarse> Toma-: wow  knew how to make it not crash ? or wow, it crashed ?
[05:27] <Toma-> Lardarse: id love to help but i gotta get some sleep. its 12:27 here :S
[05:28] <Lardarse> Toma-: np
[05:28] <Toma-> wow it freaked out when it shouldnt have :D
[05:28] <raf256> HELP
[05:28] <Lardarse> Toma-: i'll post on the forums...
[05:28] <raf256> how the f. can I install crusader?
[05:28] <raf256> also, is there any FTP client other then gftp?
[05:28] <raf256> graphical one best
[05:28] <sikor_sxe> kasablanca
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> raf256,  theres Dozens of different ftp clients out.
[05:28] <ggg> yes mgedmin , I did...  and
[05:29] <raf256> Dr_Willis, I have 5.04 ... what ftp clients are there?
[05:29] <ggg> will try again...
[05:29] <Toma-> Lardarse: also, try asking again at different times of the day
[05:29] <termo> Can anyone tell me when (and whicht file is responsible for this) sound-card-modules are loaded at boot-time?
[05:29] <Toma-> nehoo. cyas.
[05:29] <Lardarse> Toma-: i sleep at other times of theday ;-P
[05:29] <Lardarse> cya
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> raf256,  i tend to use good old 'mc' for my meger ftp needs.. search synaptic for 'ftp' and see what others are there.
[05:29] <lysis> ok i found QTPARTED,  and it allows me to create partitions, but not merge uncreated space onto an existing partition. am i able to create a /home partition without breaking my box?
[05:30] <akonkwa2> mycket: i did sudo ppoeconf, but it didn' find the access concentrator
[05:31] <mycket> akonkwa2 do you have a dsl-router? Or ist your dsl-modem directly connected to the pc?
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> lysis,  it should let ya merge them.. unless i guess they are seperated by another partition.
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> lysis,  oh wait.. i reread tht.. :P youmean expand an existing partition - to include unallocated space.
[05:32] <lysis> they're separeted by swap
[05:32] <akonkwa2> mycket: my computer connects to the net via a cable modem using ethernet interface
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> lysis,  heck - ya can always delete/remake a swap parttion afterwards.
[05:33] <akonkwa2> mycket: I don't have a router , it's connected directly
[05:33] <lysis> i'll try that . . .
[05:33] <lysis> won't let me delete swap because it is mounted.
[05:33] <mycket> akonkwa2, but cable modem - mo dsl via telephone line?
[05:34] <raf256> omg1
[05:34] <raf256> how do I install mysql + php?
[05:34] <raf256> I need some non-free repos?
[05:34] <GoyangFC> hey im on the installation and i need help on partitioning my hdd
[05:34] <akonkwa2> mycket: cable modem. No telephone line. I should also mention that I ran the installation with the computer being disconnected from them modem
[05:35] <rambo3> !iptables
[05:35] <ubotu> rambo3: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[05:35] <raf256> how to install mysql-php?
[05:35] <rambo3> type !php
[05:35] <raf256> !php
[05:35] <ubotu> I heard lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[05:35] <Dandel> how do i get firefox 1.5 to install when the latest verison on ubuntu is 1.0.7 :/
[05:36] <_jason> Dandel, /topic
[05:36] <mycket> akonkwa2, hm. then i cannot really help. Just one guess: your pc and the modem ar in different subnets and cannot find each other...
[05:36] <marc_> whats the standart folder for apache-server?
[05:36] <akonkwa2> mycket: How do I find out the subnet of my modem?
[05:37] <mycket> akonkwa, eg modem: 192.168.78.1 and your pc 192.168.0.1
[05:37] <mycket> akonkwa, shold be a hint in the manual
[05:37] <JzE> marc_: I think it's /var/www
[05:38] <r3tex> what is the default filesystem in ubuntu?
[05:38] <marc_> JzE, thx! :D
[05:38] <JzE> :)
[05:38] <McHammer> ext3
[05:38] <anewman> marc_ - Apache stores files in several folders. If you go into Synaptic and go to the apache packages, you can list the files it installs, and where they are.
[05:39] <sikor_sxe> i want to start a script when my wlan cardbus-adapter is put in
[05:39] <sikor_sxe> how can i do this?
[05:39] <raf256> how do I create a new database?
[05:39] <raf256> database BASE for user USER with passowrd PASS?
[05:39] <marc_> anewman, yeah, but if i type: /usr/blablabla start
[05:39] <mister_roboto> Dandel: you  can always just go get it from the web site and install it manually. that's what I did
[05:39] <marc_> anewman, nothing happend
[05:39] <mwe> valles: I believe the User and Group directives are the user and group the daemon should run as
[05:39] <anewman> marc_ - Just click on the package, Properties--->Installed files
[05:40] <Dandel> ahuh... what about updating alsa to the newst version... don't i need some packages for that?
[05:40] <kapputu> how do I mount smb drives on bootup?
[05:40] <marc_> anewman: ok, are they getting then started?
[05:41] <anewman> marc_ - apt-get should set the paths for you. You should be able to type apachectl -start from anywhere
[05:41] <marc_> DsS|Skywalker: hi
[05:41] <Bog_> hello
[05:41] <Bog_> can anyone suggest a popular Linux media manager (like MusicMatch, Windows Media Player or iTunes)?
[05:41] <anewman> marc_ - No go?
[05:41] <mister_roboto> Dandel: you don't need anything additional to run FF 1.5, just unpack the tgz and you're all set. it feels snappier to me, and i like the drag/relocate tab feature.
[05:41] <marc_> anewman: wait, im trying
[05:41] <fenril> Bog_, Amarok Muine
[05:41] <TenPlus1> Q.) Will xUbuntu have wireless control/wizards etc. like gnome and kde ???
[05:41] <termo> ok
[05:42] <termo> i still don't get it
[05:42] <Bog_> fen: do they handle video as well?
[05:42] <fenril> no
[05:42] <fenril> Totem does
[05:42] <fenril> vlc
[05:42] <termo> i removed all relevant entries from /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base, and still my snd-cmipci gets loaded :S
[05:42] <TenPlus1> vlc rocks!!!
[05:42] <termo> why is that?
[05:42] <Bog_> fen: any that do both audio and video?
[05:42] <fenril> TenPlus1, YEAH \o/
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> Terminus,  the hotplug service is loading it perhaps.
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> oops..
[05:43] <fenril> Bog_, yes
[05:43] <kapputu> how do I mount smb drives on bootup?
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> termo, ,  the hotplug service is loading it perhaps.
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> :P sorry terminus.
[05:43] <Johnson> hi
[05:43] <marc_> anewman: not go
[05:43] <termo> Dr_Willis: hmm, I'll have a look at that, tnaks
[05:43] <termo> tnx
[05:44] <marc_> anewman: apache is installed
[05:44] <rem_> in /etc/fstab i would guess kapput ..
[05:44] <marc_> anewman: but how can istart it trou shell/terminal?
[05:44] <fenril> Bog_, totem-xine instead of totem-gstreamer
[05:44] <rem_> thats where i mounted nfs at startup ..
[05:44] <anewman> marc_ Do you know which version? It's possible you may need to type apache2ctl
[05:44] <fenril> better
[05:44] <vbgunz> Howdo you run a .RUN file?
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> termo,  the module blacklist is in /etc/hotplug/blacklist  ( i think, someone just asked about an hr ago about it)
[05:44] <Johnson> dose anyone know where some good tutorials for hping i just downloaded it and no nothing i googled it but i couldnt fin nothing usefull
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> vbgunz,  what are ya trying to .run anyway?
[05:44] <valles> mwe: I just installed it ... what user is it using?
[05:45] <vbgunz> Dr_Willis: that ET frmo yesterday :P
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> sh whatver.run, or chmod +x whatever.run then ./whatever.run
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> vbgunz,  i just did a ./whatever.run :P
[05:45] <vbgunz> :P
[05:45] <termo> Dr_Willis: Ah, thanks thanks thanks! That's what I need!
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> vbgunz,  also i ran it as a user, and dident isntall it system wide.. i hit 'cancle' whenit asked about the system wide install. so it installed to the users home dir.
[05:45] <Bog_> fen: it looks like totem is only video
[05:45] <marc_> anewman: just a sec
[05:46] <esj> problem with building xen disk images.   following http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/UbuntuHoaryHowTo I get a disk image which makes xen fail with an: "Error: Device 2049 (vbd) could not be connected. Hotplug scripts not working."  error message
[05:46] <mister_roboto> Johnson: that's funny, I just googled it after you said that and there is  TON of info on hping
[05:46] <TenPlus1> Q.) Will xUbuntu have wireless control/wizards etc. like gnome and kde ???
[05:46] <vbgunz> Dr_Willis: its finally running...
[05:46] <mister_roboto> Johnson: the THIRD link has a pile of tutorials on a wiki.  the VERY FIRST link is to the home page with plenty of docs
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> vbgunz,  and it only took 24 hrs!
[05:46] <fenril> Bog
[05:46] <fenril> no
[05:47] <fenril> audio too
[05:47] <vbgunz> Dr_Willis: haha, I fell asleep :P
[05:47] <gimmulf> How do i start openoffice from terminal?
[05:47] <mjr> gimmulf, "ooffice"
[05:47] <mjr> gimmulf, or ooffice2
[05:47] <fenril> ooffice2 -writer
[05:47] <Bog_> fen: ok... it has a media library?
[05:47] <gimmulf> thanks
[05:47] <esj> which is very odd since debootstrap installs hotplug
[05:48] <CarlFK> anyone know what the recomended JRE is?  (last I checked it wasn't Sun's )
[05:48] <Agrajag> last I checked it was sun's
[05:48] <fenril> ooffice2 -calc
[05:48] <TenPlus1> CarlFK: Sun JRE 1.5.0_06 I think is the latest and greatest
[05:48] <marc_> anewman: 2.0.53
[05:48] <fenril> Bog_, er
[05:48] <marc_> anewman: 2.0.53ubuntu5.3
[05:48] <anewman> marc_ /usr/sbin for apache
[05:48] <EdLin> CarlFK, if you're on x86 or sparc, Sun's Java is the best
[05:49] <marc_> anewman: im trying, just a sec
[05:49] <fenril> a library, i dunno.
[05:49] <Johnson> any one here know anything about hping2?
[05:49] <gimmulf> Hmm getting this hen trying to start openoffice2:  [Java framework]  Error in function createUserSettingsDocument (elements.cxx).javaldx failed!
[05:49] <CarlFK> but there are licencing issues with Sun, so the ubuntu team was trying to use others
[05:49] <daje> anyone know a good bittorrent client to use?
[05:49] <fenril> It crashes for me
[05:49] <fenril> dapper
[05:49] <fenril> :(
[05:50] <TenPlus1> would rather use Sun's Java tho... keep it official... Microsoft already screwed up on that one with their own jrl;s
[05:50] <Dandel> mister_roboto, what about configuring the dumb sound... i gotta remap the 5.1 outputs :/
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> daje,  theres a p2p wiki page on theUbuntu Wiki that reviews most of them.
[05:50] <EdLin> CarlFK, if you're concerned abotut licensing you can use some incomplete but free-as-in-freedom jdks. A jre plugin hasn't been finished yet though.
[05:50] <daje> Dr_Willis: cheers
[05:50] <carthik>  I am trying to access my mounted iPod and amarok keeps telling me "Could not mount device, please mount it and try again" - what can I do to fix this?
[05:50] <marc_> anewman: i found it, how to start now?
[05:50] <anewman> marc_ Just want to let you know, I'm fairly knew at this...But I did just get Apache/MySQL/PHP working on a machine just the other day......I'll try to help but may not be the most qualified.
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> daje,  gnome also comes with one i thought. minimal, but it works.
[05:50] <EdLin> CarlFK, (hint, blackdown is not free as in freedom)
[05:50] <carthik>  It worked once before - remounting, and physically removing the usb cable and putting it back in don't help
[05:51] <marc_> anewman: i, glad for any help, thanks anyway :)
[05:51] <lysis> i'm having weird problems with gnome.  i hope i don't have to format or anything.  sometimes when i boot it says "cannot find the icon for enemy-territory" and enemy-territory has a huge question mark. and it won't let me run opera too.
[05:51] <marc_> anewman: i found it, how to start now?
[05:51] <mister_roboto> Johnson: just go to the damn wiki and read! jesus...   wiki.hping.org.    tells you everything you need to know.
[05:51] <anewman> marc_ Try sudo apache2ctl -k start
[05:52] <CarlFK> EdLin: I was looking for something that would run Azureus, figured I would see how well it worked
[05:52] <Stork> is there someway that i can close a program that's frozen?
[05:52] <TenPlus1> open the task manager
[05:52] <mister_roboto> Dandel: configure sound? remap 5.1 output?   I thought you were just talking about running Firefox 1.5?  You don't need to do anything with your sound for that
[05:53] <Typh00N> I have a question on Ubuntu 5.10 installation, can anyone help me?
[05:53] <marc_> anewman: theres standing: apache's alreay running
[05:53] <EdLin> CarlFK, swing apps don't run well on free jdks
[05:53] <marc_> anewman: so, how can i see now the controls or properties from apache?
[05:53] <spacey> Typh00N, just ask the question
[05:53] <anewman> Stork System Tools ---> System manager then End Process
[05:53] <n3xuxn0> i m new user of ubuntu and i have installed the ubuntu 5.10 but into default installion there isn't gcc why?
[05:53] <CarlFK> EdLin: what is "swing" ?
[05:53] <anewman> marc_ Test it just to make sure. Open the browser and type localhost
[05:54] <spacey> n3xuxn0, because you don't need it for normal desktop usage
[05:54] <Mabus06> system  monitor not system manager
[05:54] <EdLin> n3xuxn0, aptitude install build-essential
[05:54] <EdLin> CarlFK, a Java GUI library that due to patent considerations is one of the least well implemented parts of Java for free jdks.
[05:54] <valles> mwe: Ok I did everything on the wiki and Firefox still tries to download the php file
[05:54] <anewman> n3xuxn0 - Ubuntu is more of a desktop for normal people. You can install gcc with Synaptic.
[05:54] <n3xuxn0> ok thanks
[05:55] <CarlFK> EdLin: thanks.
[05:55] <anewman> n3xuxn0 By nirmal people I mean people who most likely will NOT be developing software.
[05:55] <spacey> n3xuxn0, like EdLin said install the build-essential package
[05:55] <marc_> anewman: hey, its working. its the "docs" directory right? how can i install now php and mysql, for my intranet local?
[05:55] <Typh00N> During the ubuntu 5.10 installation, after I've done the partitioning, it goes onto "Installing the base system" part. When does it ask me in which drive I want to install ubuntu? or does it just install ubuntu in the ext3 partition?
[05:55] <anewman> marc_ If you are looking for configuration files it will be /etc/apache2
[05:56] <CarlFK> EdLin: I figured it would "help" if I tried the others, maybe file some bug reports, which might help make them better
[05:56] <mo|ubuntu> where can I find id3tag?
[05:56] <mo|ubuntu> /usr/bin/audio-convert: line 719: id3tag: command not found
[05:56] <marc_> anewman: ok thanks for all!! are that files now in the internet in my apache directory or only local or only on my pc?
[05:56] <mgedmin> Typh00N, you choose the destination during partitioning -- if you've created only one ext3 partition, that's where it will be installed
[05:56] <anewman> To install php and MySql just use Synaptic. I don't remember the exact packages.
[05:56] <mgedmin> mo|ubuntu, try apt-cache search id3tag
[05:56] <sikor_sxe> my wireless adapter doesn't come up at boot. i have to manually modprobe it. what can i do about this?
[05:56] <n3xuxn0> ok sorry but i have another question: i logged into sys with normal user and if i write on terminal sudo apt-get install buil-essential it return me a message-error sudo_unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()
[05:57] <anewman> marc_ I don't understand that last question.
[05:57] <anewman> marc_ Your website will be in /var/www
[05:57] <n3xuxn0> i try to add ubuntu to /etc/hosts but i cannot modify the file because i have not the permission
[05:57] <mgedmin> mo|ubuntu, although it doesn't work too well for your query...
[05:57] <n3xuxn0> why this?
[05:57] <Mabus06> How do I change it back so that in the workspace manager, each workspace shows the icon of the program that's maximised in it? (hard to explain, but it's like this by default... for instance I might see a rhythmbox logo in the selector for workspace 3)
[05:57] <mgedmin> mo|ubuntu, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=id3tag&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=breezy&arch=i386
[05:57] <Typh00N> mgedmin, I have to hard drives, one has ntfs partition, and the other gets ext3 and swap. So ubuntu will be installed in the hard drive with ext3 and swap without deleting or changing the hd with ntfs ?
[05:58] <marc_> anewman: i mean, can i give people in different countrys rights, that they upload stuff on my server? is that possible?
[05:58] <valles> mwe: Ok I did everything on the wiki and Firefox still tries to download every single php file
[05:58] <EdLin> CarlFK, swing apps are often close to non-operational on free sdks. Luckily swt, despite it's drawbacks, seems to more able to be implemented.
[05:58] <mgedmin> Typh00N, yes, but it will also install a boot loader (GRUB) in the MBR
[05:58] <Typh00N> mgedmin, about the boot loader. Which one is better - LILO or GRUB ?
[05:59] <anewman> marc_ If I understand your question, Yes...It is possible. But most likely they will be connecting via FTP. I don't *think* Apache will let anyone upload anything.
[05:59] <mgedmin> Typh00N, GRUB
[05:59] <Typh00N> whjat's the difference ?
[05:59] <anewman> marc_ I think you may want to throw an FTP server on your machine perhaps?
[05:59] <dokkeri> Typh00N: grub is easier to set up but I guess it's a matter of preference. Never had any problems with either
[06:00] <marc_> anewman: YES that what i mean, i have no clue, how to get one and install one, would be VERY nice if u could help me
[06:00] <oxez> Typh00N: grub looks nicer than LILO iirc
[06:00] <Typh00N> and is grub easy to configure ?
[06:00] <mister_roboto> http://lwn.net/Articles/89772/            <---- LILO vs GRUB
[06:01] <Typh00N> thanx
[06:01] <martin__> hi, i have a quick question
[06:02] <martin__> on my ubuntu machine I run an apache server
[06:02] <anewman> marc_ Give me a sec. Let me take a look...I have not done an FTP server in a while. I can steer you in the right direction though...
[06:02] <martin__> but I can
[06:02] <martin__> but i can't access it by it's hostname on a windows machine
[06:02] <marc_> anewman: hey thanks, yes im waiting
[06:02] <martin__> I have to go by IP, how can I fix that?
[06:03] <jackmacokc> i am upgrading my hard drive, and used ghost to copy my existing ubuntu files to a new drive. i need help re-installing grub
[06:03] <mycket> martin__, either install a Nameserver or edit the host file on your WIN machine and put your linuxbox in there
[06:04] <alejandrodelloco> howdy all
[06:04] <martin__> oh okay, I'll look into a nameserver but that might get tricky. the HOSTS file is easy though
[06:04] <martin__> thanks
[06:04] <alejandrodelloco> I have a query
[06:04] <alejandrodelloco> I just intalled Breezy on an amd64 box
[06:05] <alejandrodelloco> and when I try to log in to a gnome session, nothing happens
[06:05] <alejandrodelloco> I just get that blank brown screen and a pointer
[06:05] <alejandrodelloco> and gnome doesn't start
[06:05] <mo|ubuntu> mgedmin: thanx man! you saved my day :)
[06:05] <jackmacokc> when i do sudo grub-install /dev/hda1 it tells me it 'could not find device for /boot: not found or not a block device'
[06:05] <anewman> marc_ The people who you are going to allow access to this....Are you going to give them each a user ID and password, or do you want to allow anonymous access?
[06:06] <mister_roboto> jackmacokc: did you already put a filesystem on your new drive?
[06:06] <kapputu> what's the executable name for Imagemagick?
[06:06] <spola> alejandrodelloco, i had the same problem ... reset your session
[06:06] <jackmacokc> mister_roboto, i disk duped my existing ubuntu installation from one drive to the other, so i assume it should be setup the same
[06:06] <alejandrodelloco> how do I do this
[06:06] <spola> (but on x86)
[06:06] <marc_> anewman: with id would be betther
[06:06] <alejandrodelloco> failsafe gnome doesn't work either
[06:07] <alejandrodelloco> I tried failsafe terminal and I managed to get a pseudo-gnome session by running metacity and gnome-panel
[06:07] <alejandrodelloco> but gnome-session is just
[06:07] <nelsmar> XD i keep skipping over it i know its here somewhere, where in kernel config would affect my terms from opening after kernel decompresses(no ubuntu boot screen... no login just sits after it says uncompressing linux and after a min goes into X
[06:07] <alejandrodelloco> tarded
[06:07] <mister_roboto> jackmacokc: /dev/hda1 is the second partition on your first drive, is that waht you want? or is it hdb? a second drive?
[06:07] <jackmacokc> mister_roboto, it is? whats the first partition?
[06:08] <mister_roboto> i'm sorry... i mean first partition on first drive
[06:08] <jackmacokc> /dev/hda0?
[06:08] <mister_roboto> you just want /dev/hda
[06:08] <anewman> marc_ Great....Go to google, and do a search for Ubuntu secure ftp server  The second link down should get you going. It is a step by step guide...Much better than what I could tell you I think. Let me know if that helps?
[06:08] <mister_roboto> for the install
[06:08] <jackmacokc> mister_roboto, it gives me the same error when i do sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[06:08] <mister_roboto> jackmacokc: or /dev/hdb for a second drive, whatever    you don't put the partition on the grub-install
[06:08] <nelsmar> tty support or something isnt it? got everythign else pretty much going but.... i need to compile in nvidia drivers(7667 prefered) , but no tty = no driver ><
[06:09] <masingerz> helo
[06:09] <nelsmar> hello :X
[06:09] <valles> mwe: I have problems with firefox and php
[06:09] <anewman> marc_ That will allow people to connect to your machine and send files to you. And also get files from you...But there are good configuration options so they can't get everything.
[06:09] <valles> definetely
[06:09] <jackmacokc> mister_roboto, this will be the first and only drive. I Ghosted the drive from my working ubuntu disk
[06:09] <nelsmar> anyone, with the kernel? i searched forums ... no luck an i just cant seem to find the problem
[06:09] <qwerxy> trying to install ubuntu onto a partition which already has it installed - - getting error no root volume...?
[06:10] <ortner> Hiho
[06:10] <qwerxy> have formatted as ext3...
[06:10] <marc_> anewman: thanks man, your very cool! ill try it now
[06:10] <TonySt> ok, I'm trying to install a slave (secondary) hard drive on my ubuntu machine. I've disconnected primary, reformatted the one i'm using for slave, and creating a primary DOS partition on slave. Is that the right thing to do?
[06:10] <qwerxy> how do i make ubuntu install choose that partition as the correct one?
[06:10] <mister_roboto> jackmacokc: sorry never used ghost and don't know how that works with formatting/etc on a new drive. grub-install /dev/hda should work if, in fact, the drive is device hda and it has a filesystem.  dunno what to tell you
[06:10] <vbgunz>  Dr_Willis: how do I kill ET? I just ran top and don't see it listed... I think I need to change my video driver before I play :P
[06:11] <jackmacokc> mister_roboto, you think i should mkfs.ext3 that partition? hmmm
[06:11] <anewman> marc_ One thing you may want to look into also....Is an ftp server utilizing SSL. With a normal ftp server user names and passwords are not encrypted.
[06:11] <nelsmar> qwerxy didnt ubuntu let you choose? it wasnt automatic for me... in the partition manager i had to flag each partition as what it should be used for
[06:11] <jackmacokc> mister_roboto, how do i list all my partitions and what file systems they have?
[06:11] <anewman> marc_ There are some ftp-ssl packages in Synaptic.
[06:11] <qwerxy> nelsmar: i'm trying to do that too
[06:11] <vbgunz> Dr_Willis: I got it
[06:12] <mister_roboto> jackmacokc: "sudo fdisk -l" works
[06:12] <qwerxy> nelsmar: how did you specify which partition is the root one?
[06:12] <nelsmar> qwerxy and it isnt letting you choose? i had a "special" computer XD i have 5 partitions.....
[06:12] <qwerxy> nelsmar: lol ok - i only have 3
[06:12] <nelsmar> qwerxy did you open the partition manager from the install cd?
[06:12] <anewman> marc_ Also, if you are not going to be using apache, I personally would uninstall it.
[06:12] <qwerxy> nelsmar: yes
[06:12] <nelsmar> 0.o if only i remembered what it looked like lol
[06:12] <qwerxy> lol k
[06:12] <nelsmar> tryng to remember it was about 2 weeks ago ><
[06:13] <qwerxy> nelsmar: should i say - ex3 journaling file system?
[06:13] <nelsmar> qwerxy what do you see on the partition screen, are you there now?
[06:13] <Sarkie> lo
[06:13] <qwerxy> nelsmar: yes
[06:13] <nelsmar> oh are you askign what TO use?
[06:13] <qwerxy> nelsmar: eh?
[06:13] <nelsmar> i use reiser 0.o i was goign to do reiser4 cause when i used to use linux peopel were excited about it but i guess it never hit off and no one supports...... so i kinda oopsed and ment to run ext3
[06:13] <nelsmar> ide use ext3 on your root
[06:14] <jackmacokc> is gparted or qtparted installed on the breezy live cd?
[06:14] <qwerxy> right
[06:14] <marc_> anewman: why?
[06:14] <nelsmar> that or reiserFS, reiser is faster out of hte box. but over time it getes cluttered and slows down a bit
[06:14] <kapputu> I have 256MB RAM and 500Meg swap. IS it a good idea to increase the swap size? I find firefox use a lot of virtual memory
[06:14] <nelsmar> qwerty sorry XD i thought you couldnt figure out how to make it root lol
[06:14] <anewman> marc_ An SSL ftp server will be a little more secure.
[06:14] <jackmacokc> kapputu: no
[06:14] <mister_roboto> jackmacokc: this is useful too "sudo parted /dev/hda print"
[06:14] <mjr> kapputu, you're probably fine with that
[06:14] <qwerxy> nelsmar: ok that's fine - but then when i proceed - it says "no root file system is defined"
[06:15] <marc_> anewman: ah ok, i thought apache will let ppl send and get files from my pc :D
[06:15] <anewman> marc_ As far as Apache....I believe keep things as simple as possible...If you don't need it, get rid of it....It will be more secure with out.
[06:15] <nelsmar> ewwwww
[06:15] <nelsmar> reminds me of the damn kernel i did
[06:15] <jackmacokc> mister_roboto, Warning: The partition table on /dev/hda is inconsistent
[06:15] <anewman> marc_ Apache is a web server. If you wanted to have your own web site on your PC.
[06:15] <nelsmar> OHHHH
[06:15] <jackmacokc> mister_roboto, you know how i can repair that?
[06:15] <nelsmar> when you select its partition there is a line that says what it is
[06:16] <nelsmar> i think third line... it is likely blank, hit enter and select root
[06:16] <anewman> marc_ You could set up Apache so people can get files from you...But they will not be able to send anything to you...Unless they emailed it or something like that.
[06:16] <nelsmar> did it say root on the screen where yous eelcted ext3? errrr where you add ext3
[06:16] <anewman> marc_ FTP will let people send and get files.
[06:16] <kapputu> is there any way to prevent firefox from bloating if I leave the machine on??
[06:16] <sharkey> Hello folks i have a bit of a question here.
[06:16] <mo|ubuntu> mgedmin: could you help me again: mp3_encode is missing to... :-/
[06:16] <mister_roboto> jackmacokc: don't want to give you bad info. i'm not an expert. you could try rewriting the partition table with parted or one of the gui frontends like qtparted (kde) or the gnone what (gparted?)
[06:17] <sharkey> On my computor i have debian suse and ubuntu
[06:17] <Exxcaliber> bloating?
[06:17] <kapputu> or do I need to restart every now and then?
[06:17] <nelsmar> hey has anyone used cedega with silkroad? i googled and nothing.... i "borrowed" a copy to see if it was going to work with 4.4x no luck ; / but i dont want to pay for 5.0 if it sint going to work its useless to me...
[06:17] <Exxcaliber> kapputu, bloating?
[06:17] <sharkey> I would like to delete suse and debian but have the memory go to ubuntu's pariction
[06:17] <sharkey> Is this possible?
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> vbgunz - got it going?
[06:17] <nelsmar> suse didnt like me lol
[06:17] <mgedmin> mo|ubuntu, the link I gave you lets you search Ubuntu packages for file names, try it
[06:17] <mgedmin> mo|ubuntu, packages.ubuntu.com
[06:17] <kapputu> Exxcaliber, like taking 334MB of virtual memory
[06:17] <jansson> How do I upgrade from 05.04 to 05.10?
[06:17] <sharkey> anyone.
[06:17] <Exxcaliber> sharkey, only the data in your personal folders
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> sharkey,  memory? you mean drive space?
[06:17] <sharkey> yeah drive space
[06:18] <Exxcaliber> kapputu, wow.. that must be a bug, why don't you try to update firefox?
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> sharkey,  you got all 3 installed allready?
[06:18] <Exxcaliber> it doesn't act that stupid on my pc.
[06:18] <_jason> ubotu, tell jansson about breezy
[06:18] <Maniqui> hi, in my "grub" menu (at start-up), I have duplicated options for Ubuntu. I think this happened after doing some automatic upgrades...
[06:18] <vbgunz> Dr_Willis: no, I think it has something to do with my driver... I have an nvidia card but like the nv driver as it gives me better resolution... I just changed my driver to nvidia and need to restart x to try again... one minute please
[06:18] <sharkey> DR yeah i do i want debian and suse off
[06:18] <sharkey> I wanna keep ubuntu
[06:18] <sharkey> But have it have all the drive space
[06:18] <marc_> anewman: ah opk, thx.
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> vbgunz,  better res? tht shouldent be.. :P
[06:18] <Exxcaliber> Maniqui, it's supposed to be like that, atleast if the kernel versions differ.
[06:18] <nelsmar> jansson couple ways, ib eleive one is you can click System->Administration->Update Manager, Prefrences - > Add CD
[06:18] <marc_> anewman: can other ppl in my home-network see the files on my apache webserver?
[06:18] <nelsmar> and burn the 5.10 cd
[06:19] <kapputu> Exxcaliber, I have the latest one from the repo
[06:19] <Maniqui> I have one option that says "Ubuntu 2.xxxxx.9" (dont remember the exact number) and other option that says "Ubuntu 2.xxxxxxx.10"
[06:19] <Maniqui> Exxcaliber, but I dont have two Ubuntus installed
[06:19] <Quest-Master> 2.6.10?
[06:19] <nelsmar> another you can add..... and add a breezy server to the repositorys.... and then it will detect all the updates from 5.04 to 5.10
[06:19] <vbgunz> Dr_Willis: I get 1400x1050 with the nv driver but can't play games whereas I can only get 1280x1024 with the nvidia driver :P
[06:19] <anewman> marc_ No. Unless, you have "shared" the folders.
[06:19] <prasert> hello everybosy
[06:19] <rambo3> if 2.xx.10 works you can uninstall 2.xxx.9
[06:19] <Exxcaliber> kapputu, from the ubuntu stable repo or some unofficial one? hehe
[06:19] <n3xuxn0> i logged into sys with normal user and if i write on terminal sudo apt-get install buil-essential it return me a message-error sudo_unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname() why this? sorry for my bad english
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> sharkey,  you could just reforamt the 2 partitions and mount them as /home or similer and use them that way. or qtparted and merge them
[06:19] <marc_> anewman: back again
[06:19] <nelsmar> i likd the 2.6.9 kernel mroe than the 2.6.10 kernel with breezy 0.o
[06:19] <vbgunz> Dr_Willis: it's cool, I am shutting down vmware and some other apps now to give it a try...
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> vbgunz,  egads man - what kind of monitor ya got :P
[06:20] <sharkey> how do i merge them
[06:20] <anewman> marc_ The only thing they would be able to see was if they were in a web browser and they typed "http://yourmachine
[06:20] <Maniqui> aaaaaah, how is that, rambo? Do I have two kernels installed? (totally newbie hear)
[06:20] <Maniqui> hear = here
[06:20] <kapputu> Exxcaliber, you mean I should get one from unstable? How do I add that to sources.lst?
[06:20] <anewman> marc_ They would see the same thing you saw when you typed localhost.
[06:20] <Exxcaliber> Exxcaliber, does the kernel version differ? Cause if they do its good. GRUB just want to make sure that if it updates to the newest kenrel and it doesnt work, then you can use the old one
[06:20] <nelsmar> better laptop support sonypi worked on the 2.6.9, they forgot to patch 2.6.10 or something like that... never actualy looked why it didnt work i just made a new kernel
[06:20] <vbgunz> Dr_Willis: just a regular crt :)
[06:20] <sharkey> Dr_Willis, can i pm you i cant keep up with this chat
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> vbgunz,  Ugh a crt! :P
[06:20] <Exxcaliber> Maniqui, Yeah kinda newbish :P
[06:20] <vbgunz> Dr_Willis: brb, starting x again
[06:20] <n3xuxn0> someone can help me?
[06:20] <marc_> anewman: ok lemme test it, i got another pc next to me, but its windows ... is it a problem?
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> sharkey,  theres not much else to say. depends on exactlyu you want to do with the drive/space.
[06:20] <anewman> marc_ No.
[06:21] <Exxcaliber> kapputu, no no.. you should only get one from the stable rep
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> sharkey,  qtparted, or gparted and rearange them how ya like. is the basics
[06:21] <sharkey> Dr_Willis, i want to have all the space be ubuntu
[06:21] <nelsmar> anyone here good with kernels? i made a boo boo and no tty's are avaiable lol
[06:21] <marc_> it works
[06:21] <marc_> anewman: it works
[06:21] <Exxcaliber> kapputu, and thats what you did right?
[06:21] <Maniqui> Yep. But again, is it correct to have two options in grub? if yes, that means that everytime I update the kernell I will have a new option in grub? :S
[06:21] <anewman> marc_ Good.
[06:21] <Exxcaliber> Maniqui, Yes
[06:22] <marc_> anewman: so if i would do now .html files into my apache docs folder, will they be showen?
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> sharkey,  ubuntu can use all the partitions seperatly  by mountng them.  or ya can try to merge them all into one huge partition with the parted tools.
[06:22] <anewman> marc_ Yes.
[06:22] <kapputu> Exxcaliber, yes I don't have any unofficial source
[06:22] <Exxcaliber> kapputu, okay.. Thats strange..
[06:22] <sharkey> Dr_Willis, the partictions are already there how do i re-mount them?
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> sharkey,  but remove/merging partitions - may confuse your boot loader.
[06:22] <rambo3> maniqui its not updating its installing a new one
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> sharkey,  edit the fstab and add new entryes for the partitions.
[06:22] <jansson> _jason, nelsmar: Thanks, that info really should be avaible from the start page imo, or atleast in an easy to find way on the w3iki.
[06:23] <anewman> marc_ Right now, you probably see something that says apache2_default?
[06:23] <Maniqui> Thanks, Exxcaliber. The "workaround" is editing the file that I have in my "active" partition, am I right? (i mean, I have found a file that has information about grub)
[06:23] <kapputu> I'm using 1.07
[06:23] <marc_> anewman: thats very good and mysql and php must be installed extra? because i want to make dynamic pages with php in my network, so my family can see "buyinglists and maybe cooking-books". u know?
[06:23] <Exxcaliber> kapputu, Firefox is not supposed to take up that much ram at all, so i guess you are gonna have to check for updates or add another rep, and get an unstable version, which might have fixed the bug.
[06:23] <sharkey> Dr_Willis, i just want a easy way to have suse and debian off and leave ubuntu on or just be able to write to the other ones and pulls stuff from them
[06:23] <marc_> anewman: right, it works :d
[06:23] <sharkey> because my ubuntu partiction is small
[06:23] <Maniqui> ok, rambo3, so can I uninstall one (the older one)?
[06:23] <anewman> marc_ Yes. You would need php and mysql for dynamic sites.
[06:23] <qwerrttyy> I installed nvidia-glx-legacy for my tnt2 riva but I get "FATAL: error inserting nvidia (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatilen/nvidia.ko): No such device" What could be the problem?
[06:23] <Exxcaliber> Maniqui, yes.. it's called menu.grub and it's placed in your boot partition
[06:23] <Exxcaliber> kapputu, you can find info on adding another rep, in the ubuntu starter guide.
[06:24] <nelsmar> jansson it wasnt? >< doh figured it was
[06:24] <nelsmar> good luck! :D
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> sharkey,  'pull stuff from them' ? if you want to keep the suse and other data.. then mount them  and your ubuntu system can have full access to the partitions.
[06:24] <anewman> marc_ and may I suggest phpmyadmin to help you administer your MySQL.
[06:24] <marc_> anewman: i already downloaded and installed them with synaptic, do u know how to set them up and make them work together with apache?
[06:24] <Trackilizer> Hey guys, have a quick question.
[06:24] <rambo3> yes if the new one is working without problems. but its justt better to have both and just edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:24] <Exxcaliber> Trackilizer, bring it on
[06:24] <marc_> anewman: yes i need that too, i know that from internet-servers
[06:24] <sharkey> Dr_Willis, could you help me in pm because i have no clue how to do any of this
[06:24] <sharkey> Please
[06:24] <anewman> marc_ Yes. But it would probably take me all day. I spent some time Thurs and Fri getting it to work for me.
[06:25] <Maniqui> thanks, rambo3. And how do i uninstall programs from the GUI? using Synaptic?
[06:25] <Trackilizer> hdb1 has been mounted and is displayed on my desktop, i just wanted to know how to change the settings so that i can not only read but also write onto the partition.
[06:25] <Trackilizer> It's a FAT32 partition
[06:25] <Exxcaliber> Okay..
[06:25] <marc_> anewman: oh, so do you know then any tutorials/howto for me?
[06:25] <anewman> marc_ But if you installed that stuff from Synaptic...it should all be there....You just need to configure it. I would bet PHP is probably working right now.
[06:25] <kapputu> Exxcaliber, backports?
[06:25] <sharkey> Dr_Willis,
[06:25] <sharkey> pm?
[06:25] <anewman> marc_ Yeah...Give me a sec to jog my memory.
[06:25] <u|qos> hey guys ...
[06:25] <Exxcaliber> Trackilizer, open the file called /etc/fstab
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> sharkey,  a read of some of the  'linux mount  and hard drive' tutorials on google will get you the basics down.   googling for a good tutorial now.
[06:26] <marc_> wait, ill get to my apache docs and test my php
[06:26] <marc_> anewman: ok thx
[06:26] <rambo3> yes just cahnge to advanced and search linux-image
[06:26] <rambo3> and remove older one
[06:26] <Exxcaliber> kapputu, Im not certain, please ask the firefox developers at #mozilla-firefox
[06:26] <Trackilizer> Yes...
[06:26] <u|qos> i cant connect to my apache server from internet... from lan it works
[06:26] <sharkey> Dr_Willis, in ubuntu theres a disk manager and theres a format button what does that do...
[06:26] <TonySt> I'm trying to format a slave harddrive for ubuntu.... What format type? Extended 2, 3, FAT, etc?
[06:26] <Exxcaliber> Trackilizer, then find the line with your hdb1 part, and change the setting ro to rw
[06:26] <mannyman> I downloaded a script file from this page but don't know how to run it http://christophe.delord.free.fr/en/adsl/index.html
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> sharkey,  format will erase the hard drive
[06:27] <sharkey> GAH!
[06:27] <Exxcaliber> then save the file, and do this in a terminal " umount /dev/hdb1
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> sharkey,  format will erase the partition selected - i guess is more exact
[06:27] <sharkey> Ohh okay
[06:27] <sharkey> And theres the other button
[06:27] <anewman> marc_ Have you installed phpmyadmin with Synaptic?
[06:27] <Exxcaliber> Trackilizer, and then type "mount -t /dev/hdb1"
[06:27] <sharkey> status enable
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> unless of course the drive has 1 partition. :P what else did ya think 'format' would do. :P
[06:27] <sharkey> Whats that
[06:28] <[cro] smiley> hi all
[06:28] <marc_> anewman: there is no phpmyadmin in synaptic by me
[06:28] <Trackilizer> Exxcaliber, i don't have anything there that say "ro"
[06:28] <sharkey> Dr_Willis, whats the status inaccessible enable thingy
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> sharkey,  no clue - i nevre used those ubuntu tools. :P
[06:28] <sharkey> gah
[06:28] <anewman> marc_ Ok...One sec.
[06:28] <Trackilizer> /dev/hdb1       /media/hdb1     vfat    defaults        0       0
[06:28] <Exxcaliber> Trackilizer, please paste the line with your hdb1 partition
[06:28] <Exxcaliber> om
[06:28] <TonySt> I'm trying to format a slave harddrive for ubuntu.... What format type? Extended 2, 3, FAT, etc?
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> sharkey,  i just normally manually edit the /etc/fstab and make it do what i want.
[06:29] <nelsmar> http://pastebin.com/448457 if anyone wants to glance and see if im missing something..... i have no tty's
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> sharkey, http://www.linuxvoodoo.com/resources/howtos/mounting/    seems to be a indepth tutorial of the fstab file.
[06:29] <mannyman> I downloaded a script file from this page but don't know how to run it !
[06:29] <mannyman> http://christophe.delord.free.fr/en/adsl/index.html
[06:29] <Exxcaliber> Trackilizer, okay, where it says default, try putting rw instead, but this is on your own responsibility, i am not that familiar with mount commands..
[06:29] <mannyman> please help !
[06:30] <Exxcaliber> mannyman, type sh scriptname
[06:30] <Exxcaliber> mannyman, in a terminal
[06:30] <Trackilizer> Ok, i'll try that... is there anything else i could try, like to unmout the partion and re-mount it somehow?
[06:30] <anewman> marc_ In Synaptic go to Settings ---> Repositories   Then +Add Universe and Multiverse. Then click OK.
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> mannyman,  you really SHOULD at least give a summary of the problem.
[06:31] <Exxcaliber> Trackilizer, sure, just unmount it and then remount it with this command "mount -t /dev/hdb1 -o rw" then it'll mount with read and write support
[06:31] <Exxcaliber> Trackilizer, but it won't do it next time you rebooot
[06:31] <nelsmar> i love this i have a centrino 1.73ghz lol.... when i compiled new kernel somethign goofed and it scales all the way to 163mhz at idle!!!! lmao
[06:31] <nelsmar> its great
[06:31] <mannyman> ok I got it fine
[06:32] <mannyman> thanks guys
[06:32] <mannyman> Exxcaliber, thanks
[06:32] <qwerrttyy> I installed nvidia-glx-legacy for my tnt2 riva but I get "FATAL: error inserting nvidia (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatilen/nvidia.ko): No such device" What could be the problem?
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> sharkey,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive  - covers in details also.. you allready got the drives partioned. you just need to mess with the mounting part.
[06:32] <Exxcaliber> mannyman, ur welcome
[06:32] <Trackilizer> Exxcaliber, the thing is i can't seem to be able to unmount it, i'm not root.
[06:32] <mannyman> Dr_Willis, I just needed the command, thnaks
[06:32] <Exxcaliber> Trackilizer, but you do know the root password, right?
[06:32] <Trackilizer> All i do is right click it and click "unmount volume.
[06:32] <Trackilizer> Yes i do.
[06:33] <Exxcaliber> Trackilizer, ok
[06:33] <Exxcaliber> Trackilizer, open up a terminal, type "sudo su"
[06:33] <marc_> anewman: no, therey no phpmyadmin
[06:33] <nelsmar> i cant beleive no one has an idea whats wrong with my kernel lol
[06:33] <Trackilizer> Yes
[06:33] <Exxcaliber> then you'll become root, for all further work in that terminal, Trackilizer
[06:33] <Trackilizer> Well i used to do sudo -s for that...
[06:33] <anewman> marc_ I forgot...Are you on Ubuntu 5.04?
[06:33] <Exxcaliber> Trackilizer, then type the commands you wish to execute with root privilegies :)
[06:34] <marc_> anewman: yes
[06:34] <Exxcaliber> Trackilizer, i didn't knew one could do so :)
[06:34] <[cro] smiley> how to make gdesklet clock to be on top?
[06:34] <anewman> marc_ Ok...I am on 5.10...Give me a sec.
[06:34] <AlexRM> Hey
[06:34] <Trackilizer> i see, so what's the command to unmount a partition?
[06:34] <AlexRM> Is there a MySQL Database Viewer for Linux?
[06:34] <Exxcaliber> Hey AlexRM
[06:34] <[cro] smiley> Gdesklets: toggling float mode doesn't work
[06:34] <Exxcaliber> Trackilizer, guess :) "umount /dev/hdb1"
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> note the lack of a N in umount
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> and dont ask me where it went.. I dident take it!
[06:35] <Exxcaliber> Dr_Willis, yeah..
[06:35] <HighHopes> Hello! I've just installed Breezy in server mode because I don't want to use Gnome.. What is the package I must use with apt-get to install xorg with the usual "startx" command?
[06:35] <Trackilizer> lExxacliber, bash: unmount: command not found
[06:36] <AlexRM> Is there a MySQL Database Viewer for Linux?
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> HighHopes,  could apt-get install a window manager like fluxbox and it should also install all the needed X parts.
[06:36] <marc_> anewman: ok. i got an other questions just with testing .php. how can i get trou databrowser root access?
[06:36] <marc_> anewman: caus i want so do my new .php file into the apache foulder, but it says, i need root accedd
[06:36] <HighHopes> Dr_Willis I thought that .. but .. nothing :( Only fluxbox and some other packages were installed ... but nothing about Xorg
[06:36] <AlexRM> Is there a MySQL Database Viewer for Linux?  Please I really need one
[06:37] <[cro] smiley> Can you add a task to Evolution from console?
[06:37] <Exxcaliber> Trackilizer, its umount, without the N
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> HighHopes,  thats odd.
[06:37] <Trackilizer> Exxcaliber, sorry about that... stupid of me
[06:37] <Trackilizer> :)
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> HighHopes,  could try the 'xubuntu-desktop' metapackage but that may install some gnome-bits.
[06:38] <Exxcaliber> Trackilizer, np, i did the same thing myself a bunch of times :)
[06:38] <anewman> marc_ www.phpmyadmin.net Get the latest stable version.
[06:38] <AlexRM> Is there a MySQL Database Viewer for Linux?
[06:38] <kapputu> how do I upgrade firefox to 1.5??
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> !info xprg
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> AlexRM,  YES..  happy now?
[06:38] <HighHopes> Dr_Willis : I installed xserver-xorg package and it installed so many things related with xorg.. but the command startx is not in my shell
[06:38] <anewman> AlexRM - www.phpmyadmin.net
[06:39] <AlexRM> Dr_Willis, not really :P need to know name of it
[06:39] <mister_roboto> kapputu: it's not in the repository (see /topic) but you can just go download the tgz file and install it manually
[06:39] <Exxcaliber> kapputu, add the unofficial reposotories, and then update firefox with synaptic.
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> HighHopes,  it may just not be in your PATH
[06:39] <mister_roboto> Exxcaliber: even better!
[06:39] <marc_> anewman: thanks, im out for eat. cya
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> AlexRM,   too bad... you dident ask that. :P
[06:39] <anewman> marc_ Not familiar with your errors. I was going to try to test php on your machine by trying phpmyadmin.
[06:39] <Exxcaliber> mister_roboto, what?
[06:39] <anewman> marc_ Later.
[06:39] <safrican> hey
[06:40] <masingerz> helo
[06:40] <mister_roboto> Exxcaliber: i had just gotten the tgz and did it manually. didn't realize there was a repository that has it
[06:40] <safrican> how come i don't see Luxi Sans in "System->Preferences->Font" ?
[06:40] <safrican> i thought Luxi Sans was part of the Xorg Fonts,etc. ?
[06:40] <AlexRM> anewman, that's browser based
[06:40] <anewman> AlexRM - Yes. I don't know of any others...I'm just getting into this stuff myself.
[06:40] <masingerz> numlock worked wooohooo
[06:40] <AlexRM> :(
[06:40] <anewman> AlexRM - It looks like it is pretty versatile though. It may or may not suit your needs. I don't really know.
[06:40] <AlexRM> Dr_Willis, you know what I ment. Do you know the name of one?>
[06:41] <kapputu> Exxcaliber, what unofficial repositories do I add? I could not find the information in the Starter guide
[06:41] <Exxcaliber> mister_roboto, hehe sad..
[06:41] <Exxcaliber> kapputu, okay.. give me a sec..
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> AlexRM,  the MySQL stuff has its own text based query system is the definitive standard.. or could search synaptic for other 'front ends'
[06:42] <sellsw> tritium: mike, what is up
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> AlexRM,  or check freshmeat.net for others that may not be in the repos.
[06:42] <masingerz> please help: I hear "snow like static" when listening to mp3's in rythmbox
[06:42] <Maniqui> I have to edit /etc/network/interfaces. I have found that if I open it with "gedit", with my user, I cant edit it. I have to do "sudo gedit", and then open the file, by dragging and dropping it to the "gedit" windows.
[06:42] <Maniqui> For sure, there is a short way....
[06:43] <safrican> i actually found it
[06:43] <safrican> thanks
[06:43] <Exxcaliber> kapputu, press the help icon in the top of your screen
[06:43] <Maniqui> And, when I do "sudo gedit" in the Terminal, the terminal becomes unusable until I close gedit
[06:43] <zIRCkUser2> hey
[06:43] <anewman> Maniqui - sudo gedit &
[06:43] <Exxcaliber> kapputu, then the help show up.. on one of the last lines is a link to "Ubuntu 5.10 starter guide" press it..
[06:43] <freenik> is gnome-bluetooth available "in" ubuntu?
[06:44] <mister_roboto> anewman:   actually, what you want to do is "sudo -b gedit"
[06:44] <kapputu> Exxcaliber, any way to do it from the command line?
[06:44] <Exxcaliber> kapputu, then to your left a list shows up.. press the line saying installing applications :)
[06:44] <mister_roboto> anewman: so it can prompt you for the password first before going to background
[06:44] <Maniqui> thanks, anewman. I remember that in Kubuntu there was a "Edit as root" in the context menu
[06:44] <Exxcaliber> kapputu, yes..
[06:44] <Chrisx1> im installin ubuntu on another pc will it be able to do nat n dchp
[06:44] <anewman> mister_roboto Ahhh. Never knew about that.
[06:44] <sambagirl> -rw-------  1 jazzy jazzy 4420 2005-12-02 22:59 /home/jazzy/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals
[06:44] <sambagirl> how i can fix that?
[06:44] <sellsw> anyone running chat on anything else than a linux box
[06:45] <Chrisx1> im on windows
[06:45] <Exxcaliber> kapputu, but i don't remeber the name of the files you need to edit..
[06:45] <Maniqui> mmmm, "sudo gedit &" did not work
[06:45] <Exxcaliber> please ask google on adding unofficial repositories
[06:45] <sellsw> Chrisx1: I am on an ibook
[06:45] <Chrisx1> kool
[06:45] <Chrisx1> im installin ubuntu on another pc will it be able to do nat n dchp
[06:45] <Chrisx1> like as a server?
[06:45] <Chrisx1> or not?
[06:45] <anewman> Maniquit - sudo -b gedit  I stand corrected.
[06:45] <kapputu> Exxcaliber, I added backports but it isn't updating firefox
[06:46] <sellsw> Chrisx1: I had a win box partiioned, but bought this ibook
[06:46] <Exxcaliber> kapputu, strange.. that's out of my league :)
[06:46] <sellsw> Chrisx1: ubuntu is a good distro
[06:46] <Chrisx1> kool, i never been intrested in macs
[06:46] <h> how do I change the login manager to XFCE or Gnome?
[06:46] <Chrisx1> yer i agree there
[06:46] <Maniqui> anewman, I have tried it,  I find that the file I want to edit is still opened as "read only"
[06:46] <Chrisx1> but im changin from a widows server
[06:46] <Chrisx1> to linux
[06:46] <Chrisx1> i have ubuntu at home
[06:46] <Chrisx1> for my pc
[06:46] <Chrisx1> just wondering is it good as server?
[06:46] <sellsw> Chrisx1: I always have: I think a win box, not a linux box, crashes to much
[06:47] <sellsw> Chrisx1: ubuntu, yes
[06:47] <Chrisx1> NAT?
[06:47] <Trackilizer> Exxcaliber, Thanks alot, it worked.
[06:47] <mgedmin> Chrisx1, yes
[06:47] <Chrisx1> or an eqivelant
[06:47] <sellsw> Chrisx1: what ya mean
[06:47] <Exxcaliber> Trackilizer, cool :) If you want it to work for good, just add rw instead of default to /etc/fstab
[06:47] <Chrisx1> Network Address Translation
[06:47] <Trackilizer> I also wanted to know, is there anyway i can make a desktop shortcut of a folder within that partition?
[06:47] <Chrisx1> im sure it has dchp
[06:48] <mgedmin> Chrisx1, if you want easy-to-install Internet sharing, all you have to do is install two packages: ipmasq and dnsmasq
[06:48] <sellsw> Chrisx1: yeap
[06:48] <martin__> anyone here who has a audigy2 soundcard
[06:48] <Chrisx1> also is there any1 here from uk using NTL ISP?
[06:48] <navarone> Chrisxl> if you simply want ubuntu to act as server you can use "server" install...just type "server" instead of pressing enter at first install promt and it will install server components without any desktop environment
[06:48] <Exxcaliber> Trackilizer, Sure..
[06:48] <masingerz> please help: I hear "snow like static" when listening to mp3's in rythmbox: will this 5.04 doc work for 5.10 http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly
[06:48] <Chrisx1> damn!
[06:48] <Chrisx1> better stop the install then
[06:48] <anewman> Maniqui - Don't know what to tell ya'. It works over here. Did you also try sudo -b gedit ?
[06:48] <mgedmin> Chrisx1, if you want to specify your own firewall rules, then it is better to not install ipmasq
[06:48] <Exxcaliber> Trackilizer, type man ln, in a terminal, and read a lil about how to make shortcuts
[06:48] <navarone> what is sudo -b for?
[06:49] <Trackilizer> Once again, thanks.
[06:49] <mister_roboto> navarone: it puts the requested job into the backgrond after getting your password
[06:49] <Exxcaliber> Trackilizer, np
[06:49] <Chrisx1> navarone, didnt see that lolz
[06:49] <navarone> domo arigato. mr roboto :)
[06:49] <mister_roboto> heh
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[06:49] <ompaul> !ops
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[06:50] <Anjay> can anyone tell me how good gparted is at resizing ntfs?
[06:50] <Happuf> 19:50 -lol:#ubuntu- #debian-online
[06:51] <Happuf> what is this :D
[06:51] <Alex> Anjay: REsized a bunch of machines using the Ubuntu thing recently, worked greta.
[06:51] <RichiH> Happuf: i klined
[06:51] <masingerz> helo
[06:51] <CarlFK> Happuf: du no. but I got it too
[06:51] <Happuf> ok
[06:51] <Happuf> good
[06:51] <masingerz> i need some help
[06:51] <Anjay> Alex: Thanks for that. The thing is I want multiple partitions, ie: for multiple distros, would Ubuntu's be able to do that?
[06:52] <Maniqui> I'm editing /etc/network/interfaces. I need to add a line to tell to the card that the network is "restricted"
[06:53] <Maniqui> I have wireless-essid airero and wireless-key 1303130313
[06:53] <navarone> masingerz, ask the question and maybe someone will be able to help
[06:53] <zzyber> does someone know how to solve my problem to import a pst file into evolution?
[06:53] <Trackilizer> Exxcaliber, don't want to bother you but who would i make a short cut of a folder called "MP3s" to my desktop, the path is /media/media/Data/MP3s.
[06:53] <masingerz> please help: I hear "snow like static" when listening to mp3's in rythmbox: will this 5.04 doc work for 5.10 http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly
[06:53] <pepsi> hi there... i made a new user and group, both called cvs and then i included myself in the cvs group, but if i try to ls a directory whose group is cvs, i get permission denied, even though the directory allows reading by the group
[06:53] <ompaul> Anjay, that is the job or Grub or Lilo and Ubuntu uses Grub as do most modern GNU/Linux distros
[06:54] <valles> Firefox PHP download problem... anyone there
[06:54] <navarone> masinger what kind of soundcard?
[06:54] <Maniqui> wich line should I add to set it up as "restricted" on start-up? Right now, I'm always running a terminal with "iwconfig ra0 enc restricted" when Ubuntu starts.
[06:54] <masingerz> intel embedded sound
[06:54] <masingerz> high defenition
[06:54] <masingerz> realtec codec
[06:55] <Anjay> ompaul: Surely Grub is simply a boot manager, and to partition my hard drive before installing the various distros I'd need to use something like QTParted, GParted, etc. ?
[06:55] <mister_roboto> pepsi: does the dir have +rx permissions for the group?
[06:55] <masingerz> 0000:00:1b.0 0403: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definiti on Audio Controller (rev 03)
[06:55] <pepsi> mister_roboto, yes
[06:55] <pepsi> 770
[06:55] <kapputu> what's the executable name for ImageMagick anyone????
[06:56] <Maniqui> a simple "wireless-mode restricted" will do the job?
[06:56] <masingerz> i hear mp3s, its just that it has this snow like static in the backround
[06:56] <navarone> kapputu> I think it is magick
[06:56] <pepsi> mister_roboto, `groups pepsi` shows that i am indeed in the cvs group
[06:56] <pepsi> so i dunno what the hell..
[06:56] <mister_roboto> pepsi: that was not the question
[06:56] <mister_roboto> pepsi: what does "ls -l <dirname>" say?
[06:57] <pepsi> drwxrwx---
[06:57] <mister_roboto> pepsi: what does "id" say?
[06:57] <mannyman> Anyone have an idea if Mandriva's Interactive Firewall is being converted to deb or installable as RPM on Ubuntu ?
[06:57] <nickrud> kapputu, convert to convert formats, display to see the image
[06:57] <Exxcaliber> kapputu, image magic is not a part of the ubuntu base system
[06:57] <mister_roboto> pepsi: you probably don't have that group active in your current session.   might have to log back in
[06:57] <pepsi> i see
[06:58] <pepsi> id doesnt list that group
[06:58] <masingerz>  Intel 82801FB I/O Controller Hub (ICH6)
[06:58] <masingerz>  Realtek ALC860 audio codec
[06:58] <masingerz> 18
[06:58] <mister_roboto> just log in again
[06:58] <pepsi> interesting
[06:58] <pepsi> ok
[06:58] <ompaul> Anjay, I understood your question different to how you did, I supppose it is a several part problem part 1 is can u do it? yes part 2 how you format the other partitions? many different tools o/s dependant part 3 is there a tool to all them all work together? well you can control the boot sequence using GRUB (forget lilo we both know it exists)
[06:58] <mister_roboto> pepsi: adding to /etc/group does not affect currently running shells
[06:58] <houman_zhu> hi there, im trying to patch my kernel with the Kolivas patch and i get this message when i do patch -p1: Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected!
[06:59] <pepsi> mister_roboto, i figured, but i opened another terminall.. does that not count as a new login?
[06:59] <mister_roboto> pepsi: not if it's a child process of your current shell
[06:59] <Vebzku> Hey when i install ubuntu and then gome that  DHCP andt that sey someting error thing
[06:59] <Vebzku> and then when i'm in ubuntu about 15min that x cursor gome and my screen go black
[06:59] <pepsi> ah
[06:59] <Vebzku> Sory my bad english
[07:00] <navarone> masingerz, try changing output in System/Pref/Sound to oss if it is esd and esd if it is oss...maybe one will work better tyhan the other
[07:00] <masingerz> ok
[07:00] <mannyman> Anyone have an idea if Mandriva's Interactive Firewall is being converted to deb or installable as RPM on Ubuntu ?
[07:01] <navarone> mannyman, why not simply install Firestarter to edit the firewall rules?
[07:01] <masingerz> sound ro multimedia selectors?
[07:01] <mannyman> not the same
[07:01] <gi2k15> Can someone help me installing vb6 runtimes using wine?
[07:01] <masingerz> sound or multimedia selectors?
[07:01] <navarone> masingerz, sound
[07:01] <mannyman> it seems hard to explain to Linux people the needs of a Windows addict
[07:02] <mannyman> you talk about choice but the nearest you have to Zonealarm is firestarter
[07:02] <masingerz> mannyman: may should go to reahb
[07:02] <mannyman> getting sick of hearing the name
[07:02] <masingerz> rehab
[07:02] <DanielHolth> Hi. I need to do a reinstall after severe filesystem corruption, but I don't want to erase what I've got. Is this easy?
[07:02] <chungaroo> i need help accessing a shared printer connected to an xp box
[07:02] <navarone> masingerz, sry...in SOund try to disable the server starting up as well...
[07:02] <DanielHolth> The hard drive is backed up.
[07:02] <masingerz> *maybe they should go to windows rehab clinic
[07:02] <mannyman> even in rehab you get drugs don't you ?
[07:02] <DanielHolth> and it does not think (smart) that it is damaged.
[07:02] <Exxcaliber> chungaroo, Uh tough one..
[07:02] <pepsi> mister_roboto, yup, that fixed it.. thanks :)
[07:03] <mister_roboto> DanielHolth: if you have severe filesystem corruption, sounds like the erasing has already been taken care of!
[07:03] <ompaul> mannyman, depends on the rehab
[07:03] <navarone> masingerz, and you wwere right...it is multimedia selector
[07:03] <mister_roboto> pepsi:  glad to hear it :)
[07:03] <ompaul> mannyman, cold turkey is good for the spirit
[07:03] <DanielHolth> Well then remind me whether the install will allow reinstall without format.
[07:03] <mannyman> well get working
[07:03] <s> new user here - my wireles will not automatically connect when i boot up...i have to manually go into networking and deactivate then activate it again.
[07:03] <mister_roboto> DanielHolth: the install will use existing partitions without reformatting
[07:03] <s> is there a way i can get it to do this by default
[07:03] <DanielHolth> Yay
[07:04] <masingerz> -so disable server at startup in sounds and try other options in multimedia?
[07:04] <gi2k15> Can someone help me installing vb6 runtimes using wine? The terminal freezes with this message: err:setupapi:SetupDefaultQueueCallbackA copy error 0 "C:\\windows\\temp\\IXP002.TMP\\OLEPRO32.DLL" -> "c:\\windows\\system32\\OLEPRO32.DLL"
[07:04] <mister_roboto> DanielHolth: if you tell it to, of course ;)
[07:04] <chungaroo> i need help accessing a shared printer connected to an xp box...anyone?
[07:04] <navarone> masingerz, I have esd as output and oss as input in multimedia on my system...but I am using sb live so your mileage may vary
[07:05] <kapputu> firefox  1.5 is awesome
[07:05] <mister_roboto> kapputu: how did you end up getting it?
[07:05] <masingerz> ok
[07:05] <masingerz> lemme see
[07:05] <Exxcaliber> kapputu, Yeah, how did you fix ur prob?
[07:05] <navarone> masingerz, and yes, disable the server start up thingy...a lot of people get problems with that apparently
[07:06] <masingerz> ok im gonna try
[07:06] <DanielHolth> domo arigato
[07:06] <navarone> DanielHolth, we're showing our age...:)
[07:06] <mister_roboto> lol
[07:07] <kapputu> Exxcaliber, from the website
[07:07] <DanielHolth> he asked for it navarone
[07:07] <kapputu> the backports don't have it yet
[07:07] <mister_roboto> DanielHolth: indeed. i guess i show my age too :)
[07:07] <chungaroo> i need help accessing a shared printer connected to an xp box...anyone............?
[07:07] <mannyman> kapputu, which website
[07:07] <DanielHolth> it's only 26. it means I am no longer a pimply faced lad (pfy) living in my mom's basement.
[07:07] <mister_roboto> mannyman: you've never been to the firefox or mozilla web site??!!
[07:08] <kapputu> mannyman, getfirefox.com
[07:08] <mannyman> mister_roboto, good morning
[07:08] <fredforfaen> !root
[07:08] <ubotu> well, root is rumour has it, that root is disabled in Ubuntu, actually this means there is no password set for the root account, use sudo when you need admin access, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[07:08] <Exxcaliber> kapputu, the mozilla website?
[07:08] <mister_roboto> mannyman: mornin'  :)
[07:08] <kapputu> Exxcaliber, yes
[07:08] <[cro] smiley> float mode doesn't work in kdesklets, what should i do?
[07:08] <masingerz> navarone: does it matter if I have some mp3 running while i do this test
[07:08] <Exxcaliber> kapputu, cool
[07:09] <kapputu> is there a sudoku game available in ubuntu?
[07:09] <navarone> masingerz, probably want to stop them as you change things
[07:09] <mannyman> sudoku, now that's a game
[07:09] <masingerz> navarone: ok
[07:09] <kapputu> mannyman, yeah
[07:09] <mjr> kapputu, there seems to be a gnome-sudoku package
[07:10] <mjr> (also, my SO is coding a nonogram program for Gnome, incidentally ;)
[07:10] <gi2k15> For people who wants to give FF 1.5 a try, http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/
[07:11] <valles> Firefox PHP download problem... anyone there
[07:11] <gi2k15> But there isn't any package, just a tar. I believe you already know that...
[07:13] <masingerz> navarone: it works
[07:13] <chungaroo> does anyone know how to print of of a shared xp printer?
[07:13] <masingerz> I disabled the sound server on startup and used
[07:13] <masingerz> alsa and alsa in multimedia
[07:13] <navarone> ok
[07:13] <loko_> i have a question
[07:14] <masingerz> thank you, i cant beleive it
[07:14] <gi2k15> chungaroo, I don't have a clue since I don't use it, but perhaps you need SAMBA
[07:14] <gi2k15> chungaroo, but it's just a guess
[07:14] <mister_roboto> mjr: what is a nonogram?
[07:14] <loko_> when i try to listening to music when i'm not a superuser
[07:14] <bob832> chugaroo:  System/Printing you can add the printer there
[07:14] <loko_> i can't listening to music when i'm not the superuser
[07:14] <jbroome> chungaroo: make sure printer is shared and your linux user can print to it
[07:15] <Taa5i__> I recently downloaded an ubuntu-server iso, however at boot [despite it showing option in the help section] , it said server and the expert variety of server were not available kernels when I tried to boot.  Any thoughts?
[07:15] <nelsmar> #linux
[07:15] <nelsmar> DOH
[07:15] <nelsmar> i ment /join
[07:16] <DanielHolth> What's the argument to dpkg to erase a package from the database, when the package has already been erased from the hard drive?
[07:16] <chungaroo> jbroome, i added the printers but i can't seem to print to them
[07:16] <masingerz> actually it was alsa and esd
[07:16] <airox> DanielHolth: you mean remove'd and want to purge it ?
[07:16] <psi> how do i encode to mp3 with sound juicer?
[07:17] <DanielHolth> I mean it will not delete the package BECAUSE i already deleted a directory it's trying to remove.
[07:17] <Taa5i__> I don't want to download a whole another server iso just to find that this is a known problem and i'm sol.
[07:17] <airox> DanielHolth: dpkg --purge packagename would remove the package and it's configuration files and such from your hard disk.
[07:17] <DanielHolth> oh nevermind
[07:17] <DanielHolth> nasty nasty filesystem corruption
[07:18] <mister_roboto> DanielHolth: how did you get this corruption?
[07:19] <hari`> Anyone know what apt package includes glu.h ?
[07:20] <_jason> hari`, I get a result for libglu1-mesa-dev
[07:20] <claudemir> hi all,
[07:20] <mister_roboto> _jason: what command did you use to find that?
[07:20] <hari`> _jason, what command found that for you?
[07:20] <claudemir> i have a problem with mp3 files
[07:20] <_jason> mister_roboto, hari`: dpkg -S glu.h
[07:20] <puff> I put a cdrom in my laptop, but now the cdroom drive button doesn't make the cdrom open.
[07:20] <mister_roboto> -S  ahhh :)
[07:21] <Taa5i__> puff: That is normal.  Use eject.
[07:21] <mister_roboto> _jason: still learning these apt and dpkg tools
[07:21] <navarone> puff> right click cd on desktop and choose eject
[07:21] <puff> Taa5i__: I was hoping you'd say that.
[07:21] <blue-frog> puff, u need to eject the cd
[07:21] <hari`> _jason, thanks.
[07:21] <puff> thanks.
[07:21] <_jason> hari`, np
[07:22] <Taa5i__> Is it possible to install onto a software RAID-1 created during the install process?
[07:22] <masingerz> navarone: here is the thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=541926&posted=1#post541926
[07:22] <claudemir> which the music format that I can transform my mp3 files?
[07:22] <masingerz> credits to you also
[07:22] <Taa5i__> Essentially I have two identical scsi drives that I want to create a mirrored install onto.
[07:22] <hari`> I need a cheatsheet.  I learned rpm/up2date/yum just fine, but the dpkg/apt suite is just brainmelting for some reason.
[07:22] <mgedmin> Taa5i, I did this, but it was slightly painful
[07:22] <masingerz> thank you navarone
[07:22] <mgedmin> the installer didn't wait until the drives were synchronized, and I got some errors after the reboot
[07:22] <Taa5i__> I tried making all the partitions duplicated and as RAID autodetect, but then it complained that no root partition was made and made me go baCk before i could RAID it.
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> hari`,  theres a few very good tutorials out on google. :P
[07:22] <mgedmin> but with a little babysitting I did that
[07:22] <navarone> masingerz, ok...but im not opening urls unless needed...firefox goobles my ram
[07:23] <Taa5i__> Basically I want a redundant base system for a backup server I'm building.
[07:23] <masingerz> thank you again navarone
[07:23] <navarone> np
[07:23] <hari`> Dr_Willis, understood, but for some reason, the info just isn't sticking in my head.  ;)
[07:23] <KBlacKBoX> non pas toi et pes les pds
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> hari`,  print it out.. tape it to the bathroom walls.. near the 'reading throne' :P
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> hari`,  and eats lots of fiber!
[07:24] <Taa5i__> mgedmin: Do you think you could write up your procedures and email them to me at my work address please?
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> hari`,  scary  is that i got the whole 'lower bathroom' being a library of Linux books.
[07:24] <KBlacKBoX> miss*
[07:24] <KBlacKBoX> xcuse*
[07:25] <navarone> Dr_Willis, do you have any windows tomes for...ummm...clean up purposes in the bathroom? <s>
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> navarone,  nah.. I perfer that Cottenelle-toilet paper they got out now.. :P its soooo soft!
[07:26] <cddesjar> does anyone know when flight #2 is scheduled to be released?
[07:26] <max> Really stupid question: How do I get rhythmbox to support mp3s?
[07:26] <cliebow> fwiw: amarok is pretty cool
[07:26] <claudemir> max: what?
[07:27] <navarone> cddesjar, you need a codec/plugin...I think one something-mad
[07:27] <_jason> ubotu, tell max about mp3
[07:27] <navarone> sry...I meant max
[07:27] <max> Most of my music is ogg, but there's some I ripped before then
[07:28] <cddesjar> ok
[07:28] <mgedmin> Taa5i__, I can, but it won't be much
[07:28] <cddesjar> i was like hmm...that doesn't have naything to do with my question :)
[07:29] <navarone> max>gsteamer-mad is what you need
[07:29] <ufk> hiya
[07:29] <navarone> gstreamer-mad
[07:29] <graabein> hi, how do i mount bin/cue files?
[07:29] <ufk> i finished installed ubuntu, just wanted to say that i'm impressed of how easy it was
[07:30] <navarone> max...search in synaptic for gstreamer and install them all basically
[07:30] <claudemir> quit
[07:30] <ufk> how can i set static IP for my network card instead of dhcp?
[07:30] <blue-frog> ufk, system>administration>network
[07:31] <max> Thank you.  That restricted formats helped.
[07:31] <navarone> one of my cooling fans is humming and whizzing...i ahte that :/
[07:31] <Taa5i> Does anyone have any thoughts about my first question though?  Why the ubuntu-server iso doesn't contain the server kernel it claims to have please?
[07:32] <Taa5i> It reports the specified kernel does not exist when I try to use either server or server-expert at the boot prompt.
[07:32] <navarone> Taa5i, I think you can do a server install from regualr ubuntu install cd...just type "server" at install prompt at beginning...<?>
[07:32] <blue-frog> Taa5i, and what doest it claim to have?
[07:32] <navarone> hmm
[07:33] <hari`> Hm, can't find a package for 'sdl-config'
[07:34] <blue-frog> Taa5i, verify your cd, type expert at prompt and then choose verify cd..
[07:34] <navarone> I gotta go get stuff done...:) cya all alter
[07:34] <xored> how to get the OpenGL working on a Radeo9800pro. I have installed the fglx driver from the reps. What do i need to switch the xserver on ?
[07:34] <Taa5i> blue-frog: I'll try that monday when I'm back at work.  In the meantime I think I'll burn another copy from a different server as a backup.  Thanks.
[07:38] <spola> is anyone else having firefox crash from time to time ?
[07:38] <AlexRM> Hey, im trying to compile bmp-docklet for bmp, but it says:
[07:38] <AlexRM> checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[07:38] <AlexRM> what XML parser is there?
[07:39] <mgedmin> spola, I used to have that a lot, thanks to the Flash plugin, when my sound device was otherwise engaged by some application
[07:39] <marc_> how can i make, that everyone on my local-network can see my test.html on my /var/www/ folder? "You have not the right permissions to open this file!"
[07:39] <fxlxx> hi, i am having problems connecting to a OpenSSH 4.1p1 Debian-7ubuntu4 as root using pubkey auth. it worked a few days ago. any background on this?
[07:39] <hari`> AlexRM, try (sudo apt-get install libxml-parser-perl)
[07:39] <h> my ubuntu fails to start X after I remove xdm package, please help me
[07:40] <hari`> h, startx ?
[07:40] <fxlxx> it hangs on debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP
[07:41] <h> hari`, that would work but I want it to start on boot automatically
[07:41] <Jxpx> algun chileno?
[07:41] <hari`> h, so gdm?
[07:41] <AlexRM> !pastebin
[07:41] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[07:42] <AlexRM> thanks hari` but now I get this error: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/448551
[07:42] <majyk> after logging into gdm you see a brown theme before the desktop comes up. I've changed my desktop and my gdm theme but want to get rid of that hideos brown shit that shows you login through gdm but before the desktop is shown. Is there a sane way to do this?
[07:42] <h> hari`, let me enable gdm in /etc/init.d
[07:43] <hari`> AlexRM, after what command?
[07:43] <AlexRM> hari`, ./configure
[07:43] <hari`> AlexRM, what are you building?
[07:43] <AlexRM> hari`, BMP-Docklet-1.3
[07:44] <hari`> I'd find someone who works with that package then.
[07:44] <XRange> how  does one down grade xrog in ubuntu
[07:44] <debugger> hi
[07:44] <XRange> i got red , green, black wheni start apps
[07:44] <XRange> i got red , green, black strips when i start apps
[07:45] <marc_> how can i make, that everyone on my local-network can see my test.html on my /var/www/ folder? "You have not the right permissions to open this file!"
[07:45] <Red-Sox> snorks: im assuming ur asleep :(
[07:45] <debugger> I'm looking for a gnome applet for displaying the cpu temperature, which one do you guys advice?   I' looking at sensors-applet.sourceforge.net but it doesn't seem to have a deb package :/
[07:45] <marc_> how can i make, that everyone on my local-network can see my test.html on my /var/www/ folder? "You have not the right permissions to open this file!"
[07:46] <loko_> hi!
[07:46] <loko_> i have a question
[07:47] <Red-Sox> loko_: hi
[07:47] <loko_> does somebody can help me?
[07:47] <Red-Sox> loko_: shoot
[07:47] <_jason> loko_, you just ask the questiona nd if someone knows they will trry
[07:47] <Red-Sox> loko_: what is ur quesion?
[07:47] <loko_> im trying to listening to music with totem
[07:47] <loko_> and with rythmbox
[07:47] <loko_> but i have this problem
[07:47] <Red-Sox> loko_: is there a problem with it?
[07:48] <loko_> "could not open resource for writing"
[07:48] <Red-Sox> loko_: did you install the MP3 plug ins?
[07:48] <loko_> yes
[07:48] <mgedmin> marc_, is the file world-readable?
[07:48] <vilefridge> I'm very confused.  How come when I go to apt-get install K3b or Arson, they want to remove Skype and libqt.. packages?  I really want to burn a VCD/SVCD, and this is driving me nuts.  Any ideas?
[07:48] <loko_> w32codecs
[07:48] <loko_> i have install them
[07:48] <Red-Sox> loko_: try them in xmms first
[07:48] <loko_> ok
[07:48] <mgedmin> loko_, is your user account a member of the 'audio' group?
[07:48] <Red-Sox> loko_: just in case you dont know, sudo apt-get install xmms, if u dont already have it
[07:48] <loko_> i have look gstreamer properties
[07:48] <chorse> loko_, is the file on a ntfs or fat32 partition?
[07:48] <marc_> mgedmin: i dont know, i just finished setting up my apache2 webserver, i dont know from any user right and so on, could u explain me that?
[07:48] <loko_> no
[07:48] <Red-Sox> chorse: its music
[07:49] <mgedmin> loko_, if not, sudo adduser $USER audio, then log out and log back in
[07:49] <loko_> yes it's in ft32
[07:49] <chorse> Red-Sox, a music file may be on a win32 filesystem as well
[07:49] <loko_> ok
[07:49] <loko_> thanks
[07:49] <Red-Sox> chorse: oh, sorry, my bad
[07:49] <mgedmin> marc_, the Properties dialog in Nautilus shows you permissions; alternatively use ls -l in a terminal
[07:50] <chorse> Red-Sox, np :) a friend of mine just hat a similar problem and it was caused by permission problems due the non-unix fs
[07:50] <unclemike> ? im thinking of trying ubuntu...last time i tried it was about 6 mounths ago...when i download it and install it..how do i install the java plugin
[07:50] <Red-Sox> chorse: oh, did you fix it?
[07:51] <marc_> mgedmin: and how can i make files to permissions for everyone?
[07:51] <debugger> unclemike, thats on the gnome help application ;)
[07:51] <loko_> mgedmin i try sudo adduser $USER audi
[07:51] <loko_> mgedmin i try sudo adduser $USER audio
[07:51] <loko_> but i get the same problem
[07:51] <mgedmin> loko_, did you log out and log back in?
[07:51] <loko_> no
[07:52] <mgedmin> loko_, group membership doesn't take effect until you log in
[07:52] <loko_> i don't know it
[07:52] <nexyon> hi
[07:52] <mgedmin> marc_, clickety-click in Nautilus, or chmod a+r filename in a terminal
[07:52] <chorse> loko_, what says an ls -la /wherever/your/file/is.mp3 ?
[07:52] <nexyon> hi
[07:52] <nexyon> does anyone play farcry with wine/cedega?
[07:52] <unclemike> debugger: is there any advanages in useing ubuntu then mandriva that im on right now
[07:52] <majyk> is there a way to edit the colors after you login through gdm but before the desktop shows?
[07:52] <marc_> mgedmin: ok thx for nautilus, whats the exact code, for chmod that files?
[07:53] <ompaul> unclemike, support in this channel?
[07:53] <Hoxzer> is there any plugin that would make Mozilla look like ie in the eyes of web server?
[07:53] <mgedmin> marc_, like I said -- chmod a+r /path/to/your/file.html
[07:53] <dabaR> majyk: the little screen that loads your programs? or the brown before the picture?
[07:53] <Chrisx1> hey i installed server version of ubuntu and i cant connect to internet and is there meant to be a graphical interface on it?
[07:54] <mgedmin> marc_, it means that everyone ("a") should be able ("+") to read ("r") that file
[07:54] <qwerrttyy> Hello. I'm a little frustrated installing working nvidia-legacy in Ubuntu. Can anyone point me to _the_ source for installing these drivers? (I've already tried the BinaryDrivers wiki.ubuntu.com and ones from the forums.ubuntu.com)
[07:55] <Chrisx1> hey i installed server version of ubuntu and i cant connect to internet and is there meant to be a graphical interface on it? i installed 2 ethernet cards both same type
[07:55] <Chrisx1> and i selected 1 as primary
[07:55] <Chrisx1> and tried the cable in both sockets
[07:55] <dabaR> qwerrttyy: whgen you find the source for them, let us know.
[07:56] <Determinist> Chrisx1, last i've checked the server install doesnt include X, i may be wrong tho.
[07:56] <dabaR> Chrisx1: no, it does not have a graph interface.
[07:56] <dabaR> Chrisx1: why cant you get online, what method are you using? router, cable, dsl, dial up..
[07:56] <blake> anyone around that can answer a question ?
[07:56] <dabaR> no
[07:56] <dabaR> !ask
[07:56] <Chrisx1> atm im goin to a hub
[07:56] <Determinist> blake, ask, then we'll see
[07:56] <Chrisx1> to this pc
[07:56] <Chrisx1> with nat
[07:56] <kale> q: what do i need to install to play .m4a audio ?
[07:57] <AlexRM> Hi, guys I installed my fglrx drivers last night for my X800XT, and I get VERY low FPS in penguin-racer, So I did fglrxinfo and it sayd:
[07:57] <Chrisx1> if i can get it workin ill set the linux box for server
[07:57] <AlexRM> libGL error: drmMap of framebuffer failed
[07:57] <Determinist> Chrisx1, did any of the ethernet cards get an IP address?
[07:57] <mgedmin> Chrisx1, is there a DHCP server in your local network?
[07:57] <nexyon> does the far cry installer from liflg.org automatically update the game to the version 1.33??
[07:57] <qwerrttyy> dabaR, alright : *
[07:57] <blake> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[07:57] <Chrisx1> im using windows sharing and it auto configs ip
[07:57] <Chrisx1> so im guessing yes
[07:57] <blake> trying to configure bind9.3.1
[07:57] <Chrisx1> but theres no dns
[07:57] <Chrisx1> id need to reconfigure the Ethernet
[07:57] <Chrisx1> Anyidea how/what to do?
[07:58] <dabaR> blake: install the build-essential package, that is the one that installs the compiler environment.
[07:58] <qwerrttyy> !ubotu
[07:58] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[07:58] <qwerrttyy> !nvidia-legacy
[07:58] <ubotu> qwerrttyy: Wish i knew
[07:58] <qwerrttyy> !nvidia
[07:58] <ubotu> methinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[07:58] <dabaR> Chrisx1: a hub with NAT?
[07:58] <blake> i tryed apt-cache search bind9.3.1
[07:58] <AlexRM> Why do I get Low FPS with ATI Drivers? and how can I increase them?
[07:58] <Chrisx1> ok the iSP Connects to this Pc(WINXP) actually it hasnt got nat (my mistake) Its Got ICS
[07:59] <Chrisx1> Then To A Hun
[07:59] <Chrisx1> *Hub
[07:59] <Chrisx1> Then To other Pcs
[07:59] <blake> it wouldnt find the file cause if it did i woulda just apt-get install
[07:59] <dabaR> Chrisx1: and then from the windows to a hub, and from the hub to the ubuntu?
[07:59] <Chrisx1> yes dabaR
[08:00] <ompaul> Chrisx1, can you keep         all the words                   off one idea on                        one line it makes it easier
[08:00] <ompaul> Chrisx1 to read without other lines getting in between your and the next person
[08:00] <blake> although , i notice bind is installed in /etc/bind
[08:00] <blake> but it doesnt seem to be running
[08:00] <blake> cause none of my hosts are working at all
[08:01] <Chrisx1> sorry
[08:01] <ompaul> Chrisx1 don't worry about speed, better to give all the info in one go
[08:02] <dabaR> Chrisx1: well, what are you saying that you can ping the windows machine from the ubuntu? did you set up the IP address statically on the ubuntu?
[08:02] <Chrisx1> ok well somebody in ubuntu-server told me to edit a config file
[08:02] <kale> q: what do i need to install to play .m4a audio ?
[08:02] <dabaR> Chrisx1: I do not think ICS includes DHCP.
[08:02] <blake> what iam trying to accomplish is ipv6 host forwarding , turn my ipv6 hosts into hi.com etc. , i have already setup my named.conf and my zones and what not but still doesnt seem to be working.
[08:02] <mgedmin> dabaR, it does, iirc
[08:02] <dabaR> kale: you can go one of two ways. both are shown after you search synaptic for mp4
[08:02] <Chrisx1> no it did dchp automaticly for some reason dabaR
[08:03] <Determinist> Chrisx1, again, did the ubuntu box draw an IP address from the windows one or did you map them statically?
[08:03] <mgedmin> Chrisx1, if you want automatic DHCP configuration on boot, your /etc/network/interfaces should contain two lines
[08:03] <ompaul> Chrisx1, it is most likely that your hub takes an internet ip from the outside and nats it to the rest of the boxes on the inside
[08:03] <marc_> Chrizz: hi
[08:03] <AlexRM> Hello, Can someone help me with my ATI Drivers?
[08:03] <mgedmin> Chrisx1, auto eth0
[08:03] <marc_> Chrizz: r u there?
[08:03] <mgedmin> Chrisx1, iface eth0 inet dhcp
[08:03] <AlexRM> There not workign correctly
[08:03] <Chrisx1> look i got kinda mixed up
[08:03] <Chrisx1> this pc is a "server"
[08:03] <Determinist> Chrisx1, pm
[08:03] <Otis> do you guys reckon that a PII at 500 MHz can run KDE w/ 128 MB RAM ok these days ?
[08:03] <Chrisx1> ok
[08:03] <kale> dabaR: sfront?
[08:03] <marc_> Otis: maybe
[08:03] <Otis> Evolution-alerter takes like 67,000 ... KB ?
[08:04] <mgedmin> Chrisx1, do you want it to use the internet connection shared by a different machine, or do you want it to share its connection to other machines?
[08:04] <Shadda> Otis: probably...but I'd use something like fluxbox
[08:04] <dabaR> kale: also, visit the http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats page.
[08:04] <AlexRM> Please someone help me with ATI Drivers
[08:04] <dokkeri> Otis: Sure I guess.. I put ubuntu with gnome on my sister 400mhz 128mb ram and it runs fine
[08:04] <Otis> marc_: well it's running right now on that setup ... it's sluggish though
[08:04] <funktown> AlexRM -- did you instal fglrx and fglrx-kernel-source ?
[08:04] <Otis> dokkeri: interesting
[08:05] <AlexRM> funktown, npt fg;rx-kernel-source, I think
[08:05] <marc_> Otis: Hm, i think it probplaby work, but slow!
[08:05] <mgedmin> Alex, what's wrong with the open-source radeon driver?
[08:05] <AlexRM> hang on I found a guide - let me follow it and if it still doesn't work ill come back
[08:05] <blake> can anyone give me a hand with that ?
[08:05] <AlexRM> mgedmin, I get low FPS
[08:05] <funktown> AlexRM.. install the kernel source.. and update xorg.conf to use fglrx
[08:05] <funktown> browse ubuntuforums.org for a howto.. too long to post here =P
[08:05] <mgedmin> ah, so you have a new Radeon card
[08:05] <AlexRM> funktown, I already have edited xorg
[08:05] <mgedmin> I don't
[08:06] <mgedmin> so I've never tried fglrx
[08:06] <pozdiy>  would like to get back a small tray icon of my wlan0 connection - closed it and now do not remember what kind of application was that
[08:06] <dabaR> AlexRM: and you read thee ati wiki page>
[08:06] <loko_> thanks mgedmin
[08:06] <AlexRM> dabaR, on Ubuntu?
[08:06] <loko_> i'm listening to music
[08:06] <kale> dabaR: i already grabbed gstreamer-plugins; apt get says it can't find multiverse version; xmms & rythmbox still don't read 'em
[08:06] <loko_> :D
[08:06] <blake> what iam trying to accomplish is ipv6 host forwarding , turn my ipv6 hosts into hi.com etc. , i have already setup my named.conf and my zones and what not but still doesnt seem to be working. Can anyone help me with that ?
[08:06] <AlexRM> ATI binary kernel module source
[08:06] <AlexRM> This package builds the ATI XFree86 4.x/X.Org binary kernel module needed
[08:06] <AlexRM> by xorg-driver-fglrx.  This package is not needed on an
[08:06] <AlexRM> Ubuntu system because a pre-compiled kernel module is supplied by the
[08:06] <AlexRM> linux-restricted-modules  packages.
[08:07] <AlexRM> woops!
[08:07] <dokkeri> Otis: If it's too sluggish you could try some of the lighter window managers. Fluxbox and such..
[08:07] <dabaR> kale: do you know how to add repositories? do you want to play m4as in any program you feel like it, or in xmms only?
[08:07] <ompaul> AlexRM, paste.ubuntulinux.nl, but I think you know that  :-)
[08:07] <AlexRM> IT says I don't need fglrx-kernel-source
[08:07] <kale> dabaR: in xmms or anything i can get
[08:07] <Paradosso> how would you tell bash to list files sortedy by creation date and copy the first 5 results to another directory?
[08:07] <AlexRM> ompaul, yes I do, didn't mean to paste it in here!
[08:07] <funktown> i had to install the kernel source to get fglrx working properly on my comp
[08:07] <dabaR> kale: and the first queastion?
[08:08] <kale> yes, i added all the other repositories
[08:08] <dabaR> AlexRM: yes, the wiki page for ati onn ubuntu.
[08:08] <AlexRM> dabaR, yes I read it.
[08:08] <dabaR> weird. is it breezy, or hoary?
[08:08] <dabaR> kale: ^
[08:08] <loko_> does somebody work in image processing systems?
[08:08] <ompaul> AlexRM, I did finish the line with a :-) <----- ;-)
[08:08] <kale> breezy
[08:08] <dabaR> kale: for a start, you can innstall xmms-mp4
[08:08] <firecracker2k3> Hi guys, is it possible when I dist-upgrade, that it does not upgrade the kernel
[08:09] <AlexRM> dabaR, shall I follow this http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=423584 ?
[08:09] <mgedmin> firecracker2k3, it is possible, if you did not have the linux-386 (or linux-686) package installed
[08:09] <pozdiy> pozdiy,  Add to Panel -> Network Monitor
[08:09] <kale> dabaR: it's not listed....
[08:09] <firecracker2k3> mgedmin, is this a meta package that I can remove?
[08:10] <mgedmin> firecracker2k3, it is an empty package that depends on the latest version of the kernel
[08:10] <firecracker2k3> ok so if I remove it, it wont try to upgrade the kernel on a dist-upgrade?
[08:10] <mgedmin> if you remove it, upgrades won't install new kernel versions automatically
[08:10] <firecracker2k3> great thanks
[08:10] <dabaR> kale: "cat /etc/issue" cat /etc/apt/sources.list" and post that to the paste.ubuntulinux.nl web site. Also, make sure you reloaded your package list, with the reload button in synaptic, or "sudo aptitude update"
[08:10] <Otis> is anyone able to get the OpenGL screensavers to run on an old RIVA TNT ?
[08:10] <vilefridge> I've mounted a NTFS volume but I can't seem to be able to access it.  How can I change permissions to allow myself access to this volume?  Can someone direct me to a source of info or give me a quick hand?
[08:11] <mgedmin> (but upgrades will install security updates to the kernel version you already have)
[08:11] <mgedmin> firecracker2k3, there are other meta packages, like linux-image-386, iirc
[08:11] <blastradius> hi room
[08:11] <devlin7> Hiya peeps, has anyone tried "prelink" and if so have you seen any improvement?
[08:11] <blastradius> don't know what it is?
[08:12] <majyk> dabaR, the screen that loads right after you login but before the desktop shows. I've edited my gdm theme and my desktop theme and want to get rid of the brown.
[08:12] <mycket> vilefridge, change your /etc/fstab to something like this:  /dev/hda1   /media/hda1 ntfs    umask=000    0 0
[08:12] <blastradius> it must just be me, but i love the brown
[08:12] <blastradius> classy
[08:13] <devlin7> blastradius: its suppose to launch apps faster but from what I see it doesn't do squat but take forever linking to everything
[08:13] <dabaR> majyk: right click on the desktop, change backkground, then choose solid color, or something like that, and change that color, I think.
[08:13] <kale> dabaR: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5381
[08:13] <blastradius> i don't have a problem with the speed of apps loading, fast enough for me.  Patience is a virtue
[08:14] <AlexRM> Guys, This is some errors with ATI Drivers: http://pastebin.com/448585
[08:14] <AlexRM> why is it doing this?
[08:14] <EvilGuru> I use sftp to send files to my server, I have many users, is it possible to allow the users to use sftp but not have a shell access?
[08:14] <EvilGuru> like I was able to do with my ftp server app
[08:14] <El_Che> EvilGuru: yes. put a script in their .bash_profile
[08:14] <dabaR> kale: you do not have multiverse enabled. that is where the codecs are. also, you have backports enabled, so take care with that. visit http://dabar.selfip.org/synaptic.html to see how to add multiverse.
[08:15] <El_Che> EvilGuru: something like trap 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 on top and a wait somewhere
[08:15] <devlin7> blastradius: my ubuntu/kubuntu system is a 750mhz crap...er emachine I figured anything was worth a shot speeding up loading lol
[08:15] <El_Che> busy now, but you can look in that direction
[08:15] <El_Che> done that before
[08:15] <EvilGuru> thanks!
[08:15] <mjr> EvilGuru, set their shell to /usr/lib/sftp-server
[08:15] <dabaR> vilefridge: "cat /etc/fstab" and post that to the paste.ubuntulinux.nl web site.
[08:16] <vilefridge> mycket: ok!
[08:16] <apolo> hi
[08:16] <david_m_e> hello all- just installed Ubuntu - haven't worked on an -ix system in 20 years - how do i open a command line window so i can type in command? (I tried using the file system by clicking on bash, but that did nothing; nor did typing bash into the command line applet); thanks
[08:17] <dabaR> david_m_e: Apps>Sys Tools>TErminal
[08:17] <blastradius> interesting that you saythat Devlin.  I also have Ubuntu/Kubuntu installed because i was a KDE fan since my Mandrake days, since giving Gnome a chance because of Ubuntu i don't think i'll ever go back!
[08:17] <david_m_e> i ran terminal, but with what settings?
[08:17] <vilefridge> dabaR: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5382
[08:17] <chorse> daved-, Applications->Accessories->Terminal or ctrl+f2 "gnome-terminal"
[08:17] <chorse> err, david_m_e , sry :)
[08:17] <apolo> I can add sourceforge to the list of repository(sources.list)??
[08:17] <IULIUS23ro> hello
[08:17] <dabaR> david_m_e: or, alt+ctrl+f1 to alt-ctrl-f6 is consoles, and alt+ctrl+f7 is this GUI environment.
[08:17] <IULIUS23ro> how do i set up my computer to be a proxy server
[08:17] <david_m_e> thank you very much - will try now
[08:18] <kale> dabaR: thank you so much!  it worked!
[08:18] <chorse> IULIUS23ro, web proxy?
[08:18] <themuffenmann> blastradius: you like Gnome better than KDE?
[08:18] <dabaR> kale: excellent.
[08:18] <mycket> IULIUS23ro, install squid
[08:18] <The_Isle_of_Mark> dabaR, are you the same one that has the synaptic page?
[08:18] <_jason> chorse, I believe default is alt+f2 for running things?
[08:18] <themuffenmann> i tend to do the same..even though i have KDE in Slackware
[08:18] <IULIUS23ro> another computer to connect to internet from me
[08:18] <IULIUS23ro> ty
[08:18] <dabaR> vilefridge: can you change your fstab back to what it was before you did that?
[08:18] <Red-Sox> can you run aqua in linux?
[08:18] <chorse> _jason, aye, it's the default both in gnome and kde
[08:19] <dabaR> The_Isle_of_Mark: sure.
[08:19] <vilefridge> dabaR: yes, one sec
[08:19] <Swedish_Chef> blastradius: i have the same experience... i absolutely hated gnome and loved kde up until ubuntu
[08:19] <Swedish_Chef> i like kde less and less, though i've been playing with 3.5 all this week
[08:19] <Otis> how much memory is Evolution supposed to use ? I see two evolution processes (alerter and another one) each using up like ~60,000 KB of memory
[08:19] <The_Isle_of_Mark> dabaR, cool. I ask because I have some webspace and I am thinking of giving out some to people that support the cause.
[08:19] <The_Isle_of_Mark> dabaR, I see you are using selfip.org
[08:20] <blastradius> yes, i know it's a contentious issue but i feel more stability with Gnome, everything works , no broken links.  It's a personal preference of course and i did love KDE but Gnome 'feels better'
[08:20] <daved-> chorse, who has disturbed my slumber
[08:20] <vilefridge> dabaR: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5384
[08:20] <dabaR> The_Isle_of_Mark: well, feel free to put the web page there. /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:20] <chorse> daved-, i'm sorry
[08:20] <Swedish_Chef> gnome feels more integrated
[08:20] <david_m_e> thanks to dabaR - it worked great - thanks
[08:20] <Swedish_Chef> and it's a hell of a lot simpler
[08:20] <IULIUS23ro> how do i set up squid?
[08:20] <Swedish_Chef> though i still prefer konqueror over nautilus by far
[08:21] <chorse> IULIUS23ro, if you only want a simple web proxy you mal prefer the package tinyproxy
[08:21] <dabaR> vilefridge: oh, so you are saying you needed the whole line for mounting the ntfs?
[08:21] <Otis> Swedish_Chef: I thought that only KDE had a consistent file protocol
[08:21] <blastradius> each to there own. KDE is supposed to be used more in Europe i'm told and Gnome in U.S.A. but i'm English and Gnome for me is the best
[08:21] <halibut> any ubuntu + gmail + firefox 1.5 users who can help me test my firefox extension (it has a ubuntu theme as one of the options, but I think I am a bit off with the colours :)
[08:21] <IULIUS23ro> ssh ftp http https proxy
[08:21] <Otis> Swedish_Chef: i.e., you can have a view open on a folder over FTP and drag-n-drop from the FTP window to Kate or something
[08:21] <IULIUS23ro> thats the protocols needed
[08:21] <Swedish_Chef> Otis: yeah, ioslaves
[08:21] <be1> ok
[08:22] <Swedish_Chef> that's why i love konqueror
[08:22] <Otis> Swedish_Chef: that right there is the clincher for me
[08:22] <Swedish_Chef> i have a gnome desktop now, but i use konq for file browsing
[08:22] <Swedish_Chef> and visiting flash sites
[08:22] <Swedish_Chef> since firefox is a complete piece of crap now
[08:22] <Otis> and also, the thing that switched me right off Gnome is the zealotry around C vs C++
[08:22] <david_m_e> while i'm here, i guess i'll press my luck. I installed Ubuntu with a microsoft MN130 ethernet adapter, which Ubuntu did not recognize, so i had to remove partition and re-install after putting in an adapter which it did recognize (Kingston); for future reference, how do i re-run the hardware recognizition step/program ?
[08:22] <vilefridge> dabaR:  Not necesarily.  This is what i did: eric@unknown:~/Desktop$ sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /home/eric/Desktop/C_NTFS/
[08:22] <vilefridge>    However, when accessing that mounted volume, it says I do not have permissions.. so the whole fstab editing thing is what someone else suggested.  I'm open to anything..
[08:22] <blastradius> although Kate is ace for codeing
[08:22] <Swedish_Chef> i don't like how gnome uses C
[08:22] <Swedish_Chef> it just feels hackish to me
[08:23] <dabaR> vilefridge: so would you like it mounted every time you boot, or just when you feel like it?
[08:23] <Otis> Swedish_Chef: they ended up making some kind of weird OO hack for C
[08:23] <Swedish_Chef> yeah
[08:23] <vilefridge> dabaR: every time I boot would be nice :)
[08:23] <Swedish_Chef> but i've noticed kde apps crash a lot more than gnome ones
[08:23] <Swedish_Chef> which is a reverse from a while back when gtk apps were pretty crappy
[08:23] <Swedish_Chef> don't know how that happened...
[08:23] <blastradius> what!! is hackish a bad thing? if it wern't for hackers (the real ones) we wouldn't have anything now
[08:23] <bluefrog-10> vilefridge, edit fstab replace defaults by  user,unask=0222
[08:24] <mjr> hack it is. Luckily, an app programmer doesn't have to use C but can opt for some sane language. C is easily bindable :)
[08:24] <Swedish_Chef> blastradius: by hackish i mean a kludge
[08:24] <mjr> blastradius, true enough
[08:24] <Swedish_Chef> a lazy man's way of getting out of doing something right
[08:24] <dabaR> vilefridge: then you will need a line in the fstab file. read pm from ubotu
[08:24] <pv_> how come C is the lazy man's way :)
[08:24] <Otis> let's not get carried away ...
[08:24] <blastradius> yes KDE apps crash much more often than Gnome in my experience, that's what i mean by more stability with Gnome
[08:24] <Otis> no one is saying any such thing
[08:24] <vilefridge> dabaR: thank you kindly :)
[08:25] <Swedish_Chef> pv_: that's the ironic thing... OO in C is a bitch compared with C++ :P
[08:25] <Otis> btw ... I'm setting my old box up with kubuntu for my folks ... I'd like them to have access to only a minimum of useful apps etc ...
[08:25] <exterminator> servus leute
[08:25] <Otis> what's a good way of configuring the "mam and dad" accounts ?
[08:25] <david_m_e> anyone know how to re-run Ubuntu's hardware recognition step without having to completely re-install ?
[08:26] <Otis> are there desktop templates I can load when creating accounts ?
[08:26] <Otis> or do I have to go edit the menus etc for each user ?
[08:26] <paulproteus> david_m_e: Yeah, reboot. ;)
[08:26] <mycket> IULIUS23ro, you can install it via synaptic. Documentation is http://www.squid-cache.org/
[08:26] <david_m_e> really? it's that simple?
[08:26] <ompaul> david_m_e, he is right you know
[08:26] <paulproteus> david_m_e: It should be, at least.
[08:26] <david_m_e> oh wow... kool; thanks
[08:27] <ompaul> david_m_e, what kind of hardware is it?
[08:27] <devlin7> blastradius: I have Kubuntu installed now but am going to install Gnome and see which I prefer... before anything tho I am trying to figure out how to get my printer working... it is linux compatible or so they say on their website
[08:27] <janne> hi
[08:27] <janne> how I can upgrade from hoary to breezy
[08:27] <blastradius> nuff respect to 'true' hackers Wozniak, Stallman and of course Torvalds, too much has been glamorised in the media.
[08:27] <blastradius> what's the problem Devlin
[08:28] <zoexii> hello, I have a problem,  I have a folder full of photos, many copied from an iPhoto library... The permissions are a mess, and I need to give myself privilages to read and write to all files and subfolders within my ~/Photos/ folder.  what is the command for this?
[08:28] <david_m_e> the 1st install didn't recognize my (pardon moi) Microsoft ethernet adapter, so i replaced it with a Kingston; i didn't know any other way of getting the hardware recognized, so i deleted Ubuntu partition and re-installed
[08:28] <paulproteus> !tell Skies about breezyupgrade
[08:28] <Skies> yeah'
[08:28] <AlexRM> Does downloading firefox 1.5 for linux work in ubuntu yet?
[08:28] <ompaul> david_m_e, this is GNU/Linux reinstalling is a rare thing to have to do
[08:29] <_jason> AlexRM, it works, however there are no packages for it yet and it is not officialy suported
[08:29] <devlin7> blastradius: when I try to print it shows the progress bar, then it says printing completed.... nothing at all printed infact the printer is still in sleep mode.
[08:29] <h> does anyone know how to copy and paste in nano. Google search returns no good result
[08:29] <AlexRM> is it better to wait, _jason ?
[08:29] <marc_> anyone got a page, where u can download cool linux wallpapers?
[08:29] <david_m_e> it's my 1st -ix computer in over 20 years... i might as well be a beginner
[08:29] <ompaul> david_m_e, with the network card you can click on system- administration - networking
[08:29] <_jason> AlexRM, yes, it is better to wait
[08:29] <bluefrog-10> devlin7, to be sure, switch on your printer before booting, then go to system>administration>printer and see if it is recognised when you add a printer
[08:29] <ompaul> marc_, how about a tool that does that for you and allows you to choose it?
[08:30] <AlexRM> _jason, when is the expected release of it for Ubuntu?
[08:30] <Skies> yeah firefox works in ubuntu
[08:30] <Swedish_Chef> zoexii: chmod -R 755 ~/Photos/
[08:30] <Skies> :P
[08:30] <_jason> ubotu, tell AlexRM about ffbackport
[08:30] <marc_> ompaul: what tool?=
[08:30] <david_m_e> i think the problem is that the MS adapter uses a non-standard interrupt, which is why Ubuntu did not recognize it during the network card search phase
[08:30] <zoexii> h, try ^G for help with all commands,
[08:30] <zoexii> Swedish_Chef, thanks,
[08:30] <blastradius> Devlin, have you configured it properly in system/admin/printers
[08:31] <_jason> h, you can use highlight to copy and middle click to paste
[08:31] <Swedish_Chef> zoexii: no problem
[08:31] <blastradius> add a new printer
[08:31] <ompaul> marc_, how about a tool that does that for you and allows you to choose it?gnome-art gnome-splashscreen-manager << but you need a repo called universe for that-- do this if you don't understand >>/msg ubotu repos<<
[08:31] <david_m_e> i apologize for having to use the 'microsoft' word - i don't like profanity any more than anybody else
[08:32] <ompaul> david_m_e, well then stop saying it :-)-
[08:32] <Determinist> ompaul, dude, he's talking about wallpapers, not splashscreens :P
[08:32] <frito> Hi, I too have a printer question - my hp 720c is found and appears setup, but no test page appears
[08:32] <ompaul> and gnome art has that
[08:32] <dabaR> Determinist: didd you set up Chrisx1's connection?
[08:32] <Determinist> dabaR, yes
[08:33] <Trashcan> what's everybody's favorite dvd burner for gnome?
[08:33] <Trashcan> or command line
[08:33] <fissy> nautilus
[08:33] <dabaR> ++
[08:33] <Determinist> ompaul, sorry, didnt catch that :)
[08:33] <Trashcan> :o
[08:33] <marc_> ompaul: what tool?
[08:34] <Determinist> dabaR, ++?
[08:34] <ompaul> marc_, gnome-art
[08:34] <dabaR> I agree is what it means.
[08:34] <Storkme> does ubuntu have the windows equivilent of a HOSTS file? for redirecting a host to an ip
[08:34] <Trashcan> ++ = +1 vote for naut
[08:34] <Determinist> k
[08:34] <david_m_e> if anyone's curious, i need a command line window (correct terminology = console?) so that I can install the worldcommunitygrid.org's grid-computing program that uses my spare clockticks to design medicines
[08:34] <Terminus> Storkme, /etc/hosts
[08:34] <ompaul> Storkme, that question is the wrong way around
[08:34] <Trashcan> lol
[08:34] <AlexRM> how can I Force dpkg to install 32bit software on my 64bit machine?
[08:35] <Storkme> good point
[08:35] <Storkme> sorry
[08:35] <devlin7> blastradius: lol, if I knew that I prolly wouldn't have a problem...
[08:35] <ompaul> Storkme, they used to think that the internet was a fad
[08:35] <Trashcan> i'm all for the windows bashing and all that, but so far my gaming experience on linux has been sub par ;)
[08:35] <Storkme> heh
[08:35] <Storkme> Trashcan, you should check out the java based Quake 2 engine :)
[08:35] <Happuf> AlexRM: i think there is no way...
[08:35] <Trashcan> java :\
[08:35] <Swedish_Chef> Trashcan: i remember when nvidia's linux drivers were faster than windows drivers...
[08:35] <Swedish_Chef> sigh
[08:35] <Trashcan> lol
[08:35] <Swedish_Chef> the good ol' days, before all this fancy shmancy shader stuff
[08:35] <Trashcan> :(
[08:36] <Trashcan> americas army = half the framerate with lower settings
[08:36] <Swedish_Chef> seriously?
[08:36] <Trashcan> on ati drivers
[08:36] <Swedish_Chef> oh
[08:36] <Swedish_Chef> haha
[08:36] <Swedish_Chef> i had a radeon 9800
[08:36] <Trashcan> same..
[08:36] <Swedish_Chef> and after the hell i went through
[08:36] <Swedish_Chef> i swore i'd never buy ati again
[08:36] <Trashcan> lol
[08:36] <Trashcan> it works fine
[08:36] <Trashcan> just not fast
[08:36] <Swedish_Chef> worst drivers in the world
[08:36] <marc_> ompaul: thx
[08:36] <Swedish_Chef> yeah, they only recently fixed stability
[08:36] <Swedish_Chef> before it would crash sitting idle for a day
[08:37] <Trashcan> lolol
[08:37] <Swedish_Chef> i'm not joking
[08:37] <vilefridge> dabaR:  The mount was successful for my Windows D: partition, I'm listening to a .mp3 off my NTFS drive atm :)  However, the C: partition still whines about no permissions.  Is it becaue it has a * beside it?  /dev/hda1   *           1        2297    18450621    7  HPFS/NTFS
[08:37] <TotalNewb> Morning or what have you.
[08:37] <ompaul> marc_, no worries
[08:37] <Swedish_Chef> the performance was terrible, instability was worse, and it doesn't support all the cool stuff like nvidia drivers
[08:37] <Trashcan> vilefridge: i'm listening to mp3s on my ntfs drive :D
[08:37] <Swedish_Chef> not to mention their driver development is slow
[08:37] <Trashcan> and copying psp isos (shh)
[08:37] <Swedish_Chef> same applies to ati's windows drivers
[08:37] <david_m_e> one more question... when i pressed ctrl-alt-f1 to get a console, it appears in whole-screen-mode; (how) can change that to a box on my screen so i can monitor other windows?
[08:37] <dabaR> vilefridge: post the file again, so I can take a look.
[08:37] <Storkme> is it a good idea to add some common advertisement servers to /etc/hosts.deny ?
[08:38] <Quest-Master> Trashcan: can I PM you?
[08:38] <Trashcan> david: Applications->Accessories->Terminal is what you want
[08:38] <vilefridge> trashcan: :)
[08:38] <chorse> Storkme, it isn't.
[08:38] <Swedish_Chef> Storkme: i just add them to /etc/hosts, with the ip address 127.0.0.1
[08:38] <Trashcan> assuming you're using gnome
[08:38] <Trashcan> sure quest
[08:38] <aramil> xcuse me
[08:38] <aramil> can i ask smth?
[08:38] <Swedish_Chef> Storkme: if you use firefox, try adblock and flashblock
[08:38] <Otis> is it possible to configure a KDE desktop (menus, icons) template to use when creating new user accounts ?
[08:38] <Storkme> Swedish_Chef, alright, thanks
[08:38] <ompaul> !tell aragon about ask
[08:38] <ompaul> !tell aramil about ask
[08:38] <ompaul> aragon, sorry for someone else
[08:39] <vilefridge> dabaR: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5386
[08:39] <aramil> ok
[08:39] <Swedish_Chef> bbl
[08:39] <aramil> i tried to install a deb package
[08:39] <aramil> and because it wasnt installed properly
[08:39] <david_m_e> i agree, Mr. Can; however, when i run that, if ii recall correctly, it asks for information i don't know... let me run it again to find out which info
[08:39] <arkais> hi
[08:40] <aramil> the repositories and packages in synaptic do not open
[08:40] <_jason> aramil, you can just ask, but try to state your question without using enter or else it will be hard to read
[08:40] <TotalNewb> Can anyone recomend a good CD-R burning application for Kubuntu/KDE or Gnome? I have never burned with Linux before.
[08:40] <_jason> TotalNewb, try gnomebaker
[08:40] <chorse> TotalNewb, k3b for kde, gnome has one integraded in it's filemanager nautilus. both are nice.
[08:40] <sorsis> xroast
[08:41] <david_m_e> i'm sorry, i was wrong; apparently i did not recall correctly
[08:41] <vilefridge> storkme: i can vouch for adblock, its works great :)
[08:41] <dabaR> vilefridge: and what, you have to be root to read from the drives? writing to ntfs is not something people oftenn do, if they like their files.
[08:41] <chorse> TotalNewb, when running gnome just insert an empty cd-r and follow the wizard
[08:41] <_willcooke_> Hi guys.  I'm installing a fresh breezy on to a friends computer! (yay!)  But, there are two hdd's, one is 40Gb and one 60Gb.  I know you can use something to make both discs appear as one big disc.  Should I choose the LVM option in the guided partitioner?
[08:41] <aramil> ok i tried to install a deb package but it wasnt installed properly or it was half-instaled nad now when i open synaptic it doesnt load my packages in the repositories and it pops the message "E: The package cinelerra needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[08:41] <aramil> E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report."what shall i do?
[08:41] <dabaR> TotalNewb: k3b is for kde
[08:41] <themuffenmann> TotalNewb: in Gnome, open a terminal and type 'nautilus burn:///'  you will get a window..place your files in there and under the file menu, click write to cd
[08:42] <halibut> any ubuntu + gmail + firefox 1.5 users who can help me test my firefox extension (it has a ubuntu theme as one of the options, but I think I am a bit off with the colours :)
[08:42] <TotalNewb> Oh? It's preinstalled? Kickin!
[08:42] <themuffenmann> yep
[08:42] <vilefridge> dabaR:  I don't have any need for the C partition, I kind of just wanted to understand why I couldn't access it, but I could access D w/out a hitch.  I don't need sudo to read from the D, I can browse to it in nautilus
[08:42] <TotalNewb> Thanks :)
[08:42] <themuffenmann> no prob man
[08:43] <dabaR> vilefridge: no idea, the fstab entries look identical.
[08:44] <david_m_e> this room has been good to me; any way to make this specific room a 'favorite' or to bookmark it?
[08:44] <aramil> ok i tried to install a deb package but it wasnt installed properly or it was half-instaled nad now when i open synaptic it doesnt load my packages in the repositories and it pops the message "E: The package cinelerra needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[08:44] <aramil>  E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report."what shall i do?
[08:44] <vilefridge> dabaR: only difference I can see is there's a * beside the hda1 (C) part, must mean it's bootable and dances to i'm to sexy for..
[08:45] <dabaR> vilefridge: i dont see that
[08:45] <aramil> does anybody listen?
[08:45] <kyncani> aramil: tried to apt-get remove it ?
[08:45] <aramil> tell me how cause i m pretty muxh a noob
[08:46] <devlin7> question... is synaptic strictly for gnome?
[08:46] <vilefridge> dabaR:  /dev/hda1   *            where-as...      /dev/hda5      (no star)
[08:46] <eu> question why  uname -a
[08:46] <eu> Linux ubu 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Fri Nov 18 11:51:02 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:46] <kyncani> aramil: ... apt-get remove cinelerra . And "man apt-get" if it does not work, look for various --force options
[08:46] <eu> and not 686?
[08:46] <marc_> howto give a folder with all files in this folger a+r chmod rights?
[08:47] <themuffenmann> i think if you make the folder with a+r rights, you can edit any file in there as you like
[08:47] <dabaR> vilefridge: I do not see that on your post.
[08:47] <aramil> i tried and it says "E: The package cinelerra needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[08:47] <aramil> "
[08:47] <themuffenmann> so you would do: sudo chmod a+r (folder)
[08:47] <themuffenmann> if your on ubuntu..
[08:48] <marc_> themuffenmann: no, caus it sais for the folder OK but the datas in it NO
[08:48] <devlin7> brb
[08:48] <marc_> themuffenmann: im on ubuntu 5.04 yeah
[08:48] <themuffenmann> alright, thanks for correctin me
[08:48] <vilefridge> dabaR: ahh sorry, i see that now :)  Well thanks again for all the help, much appreciated :D :D
[08:48] <dabaR> aramil: you borked your system. run "sudo apt-get update" and paste any errors to paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:48] <kyncani> aramil: man apt-get. Look for --force, --ignore, ... options
[08:48] <dabaR> welcome
[08:48] <marc_> howto give a folder with all files in this folger a+r chmod rights?
[08:49] <dabaR> a+r is read perfmission for all
[08:49] <dabaR> marc_: be specific. tell us the name of the directory, where it is in the file system, and what you would like to do with it.
[08:49] <ste> anybody know how to manually create a cedega "game" entry? In other words, making a new game entry without teling cedega an installer.exe
[08:49] <_jason> marc_, chmod -R
[08:50] <whax30> hi guys
[08:50] <marc_> dabaR: /var/www/phpXplorer/ its an script, u can manage your files on apache
[08:50] <ste> oh sorry, wrong chan
[08:50] <whax30> i tryed to install ubuntu on my desktop pc but it stopped 2 times now on the same action
[08:50] <Determinist> ste, there are cedega specific help channels, perhaps you should consult with the guys there
[08:50] <whax30> he says that he wants to browse the apt network ore somethink and then just dont continoue
[08:51] <dabaR> marc_: and it is a diretory, or a file?
[08:51] <AlexRM> Hello
[08:51] <marc_> dabaR: its an direktory and there many files and some more direktorys in it
[08:51] <dabaR> and you want everyone to be able to read it, so that your web server can read it?
[08:51] <AlexRM> I went to Install FAM to complie BMPx and it said it needed to remove 102 pacakges!
[08:52] <marc_> yes
[08:52] <AlexRM> is this correct??
[08:52] <marc_> dabaR: right
[08:52] <SGershon> Hi. Anyone knows the link that build repositories lists?
[08:52] <korhalf> Hey guys, im trying to run starcraft with wine on ubuntu
[08:52] <ardchoille> I have an ATI vid card and I haven't installed the ati drivers yet becasue the output of glxinfo | grep render says "direct rendering: Yes". Do I even need to install the ATI drivers?
[08:52] <korhalf> but it keeps asking for a CD
[08:52] <marc_> _jason: hasent worked :(
[08:52] <korhalf> and the CD is in the drive, so i dont know what to do
[08:52] <dabaR> marc_: "sudo chmod -R a+r /var/www/phpXplorer" should work
[08:52] <nekostar> actually
[08:52] <nekostar> hey
[08:52] <marc_> dabaR: im trying
[08:52] <AlexRM> I went to Install FAM to complie BMPx and it said it needed to remove 102 pacakges! Is this Correct?
[08:53] <nekostar> how hard is it to port something made for windows written in some sort of c to linux?
[08:53] <nekostar> like a torrent client>?
[08:53] <marc_> dabaR: worked, thx
[08:53] <themuffenmann> yeah use the -R recursive option
[08:53] <spikebike> neko the code/logic is straight forward
[08:53] <spikebike> the GUI much less so
[08:53] <dabaR> AlexRM: whst program are you using for install?
[08:53] <AlexRM> dabaR, BMPx
[08:53] <spikebike> there are already torrent clients
[08:54] <spikebike> azureus, and bit-torrent (main line) come to mind
[08:54] <AlexRM> dabaR, Ahhh, Synaptic
[08:54] <Determinist> i definately need to dig deeper into the entire linux method of security and permissions, seems like one big mess to me at the moment altho i'm certain it's nothing big or too complex
[08:54] <nekostar> ah
[08:54] <dabaR> weird that it wants to remove half your system.is ubuntu-desktop one of the packages that is being removed>??
[08:54] <nekostar> spikebike,
[08:54] <PokerFacePenguin> ardchoille: I dont think you need to install anything else
[08:55] <nekostar> there is a client out there that is tiny
[08:55] <marc_away> how to give directorys and folders write-read for everyone? a+r+w ?
[08:55] <nekostar> and beautiful
[08:55] <ardchoille> PokerFacePenguin: Thatnk you. That's what I was thinking too.
[08:55] <nekostar> and has the best features of azureus and the original client like dht
[08:55] <nekostar> but its made for windows
[08:55] <nekostar> utorrent.com
[08:55] <dabaR> ardchoille: isit working foryou?
[08:55] <nekostar> if we could get that for linux that should be the official client of ubuntu
[08:55] <ardchoille> dabaR: I don't know, I haven't tried a 3d app yet.. need to find one to test.
[08:56] <nekostar> and a few TB of torrents later i honestly know what im speaking about :D
[08:56] <nutshell42> hi, I tried to install kubuntu and the partitioner doesn't find any partitions on my disks
[08:56] <marc_away> how to give directorys and folders write-read for everyone? a+r+w ?
[08:56] <nutshell42> fdisk and debian work just fine
[08:56] <arkais> if i want shutdown all my clients from my server, what command i have to write?, i try shutdown -h now , but it's just work with my server but no with my clients
[08:56] <spikebike> neko I don't see the source as being available.
[08:57] <nekostar> spikebike, im sure i could get it
[08:57] <nekostar> legitly lol
[08:57] <dabaR> marc_away: dont do that for everyone, it is unsafe.
[08:57] <dabaR> marc_away: man chmod will tell you
[08:57] <nekostar> if your interested ill give it a shot then
[08:58] <marc_away> dabaR: u mean man chmod?ok thx, sorry, im asking to much. thx anyway
[08:58] <spikebike> man, always check the volume before testing skype
[08:58] <dabaR> marc_away: you are not asking too much, it is unsafe to allow everyone write access to your files, then they can delete them, http allows for a delete commandd.
[08:59] <dabaR> marc_away: to find out about the options for chmod, you can run "man chmod" in a terminal.
[08:59] <AlexRM> Why can't I get taglib 1.4 in Ubuntu resporites???
[08:59] <nekostar> spikebike, so should i give a shot at getting the source on utorrent?
[08:59] <SGershon> Hi. Anyone knows the link that build repositories lists?
[08:59] <nekostar> !sources
[09:00] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:00] <nekostar> :P
[09:00] <nekostar> hello again SGershon
[09:00] <nutshell42> how can I install ubuntu on an existing partition without using the partitioner?
[09:00] <ortner> Whats the difference with Breezy and Hoary?
[09:00] <nekostar> nutshell42, do you mind wiping out the data?
[09:00] <linux_newb> Hi people, I've just installed ubuntu and I have a 2nd HDD full of mp3's, but I cant seem to find where it is in ubuntu. Can someone tell me how to get to it?
[09:01] <nekostar> linux_newb, what filesystem is the other hdd
[09:01] <nutshell42> nekostar: on that specific partition? no
[09:01] <dabaR> linux_newb: is it on the same computer?
[09:01] <frito> any pointer to information on using hp 720c printer gratefully received
[09:01] <linux_newb> ntfs
[09:01] <linux_newb> yes on same computer
[09:01] <coz> ahello all
[09:01] <kapputu> why does firefox 1.5 treat the window as a text box???? I get a text box cursor on all windows
[09:01] <nekostar> ah linux_newb google ntfs and ubuntu and fstab
[09:01] <coz>  does anyone here use a wacom tablet?
[09:01] <nutshell42> nekostar: on the whole disk? that would be... not optimal =)
[09:01] <nekostar> i dont have that comp on atm
[09:01] <dabaR> linux_newb: readd private message from ubotu.
[09:01] <nekostar> right
[09:01] <Determinist> did firefox 1.5 hit the repos yet?
[09:02] <linux_newb> thnx
[09:02] <nekostar> nutshell42, you really need 3 partitions for ubuntu though
[09:02] <dabaR> Determinist: read the topic
[09:02] <nekostar> you need / swap and /home
[09:02] <kapputu> Determinist, no but 1.07 sucked on my machine
[09:02] <pozdiy> !tell linux_newb about windowsdrives
[09:02] <nutshell42> nekostar: not for the installation I hope
[09:02] <SGershon> nekostar, thanks.
[09:02] <AlexRM> Why can't I get TAGLIB1.4, even when I have all resporites and updated?
[09:02] <nekostar> np SGershon
[09:02] <SGershon> nekostar, there's someone that looks just like you on other channel...
[09:02] <nekostar> eh thats what i understood nutshell42 but i might be wrong
[09:02] <SGershon> ;)
[09:02] <nekostar> lol
[09:02] <nekostar> what chan?
[09:03] <coz> any wacom tablet users here?
[09:03] <Determinist> dabaR, i see, so only from backports, eh?
[09:03] <dabaR> Determinist: so I heard here today.
[09:03] <nutshell42> nekostar: I've got a gig of ram so if it doesn't find the swap partition until the first reboot I don't care; and I don't mount /home until I have the system set up because it's more important than the rest =)
[09:03] <AlexRM> Can someone help me get taglib 1.4 please??
[09:03] <nekostar> huym
[09:03] <Determinist> dabaR, any known issues from people who've tried to install it from the original packages or compile it?
[09:03] <nekostar> AlexRM, gimme second and ill browse for it
[09:04] <AlexRM> nekostar, thanks
[09:04] <nekostar> nutshell42, let me look about a bit for ya
[09:04] <nutshell42> nekostar: but I even could provide those two partitions if it absolutely doesn't work otherwise; it's just that it absolutely doesn't work now because that partitioner is junk =/
[09:04] <nekostar> keep in mind im no expert but ill try to help
[09:04] <nutshell42> nekostar: thx a lot
[09:04] <aramil> i receive the following error from synaptic E: The package cinelerra needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it." what can i do?
[09:04] <aramil> i m noob
[09:04] <sven> evening
[09:05] <sven> I forgot the command to set root password after installation ? :(
[09:05] <nekostar> aramil, get sources and use synaptic
[09:05] <nekostar> !sources
[09:05] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:05] <Exxcaliber> sven, passwd
[09:05] <nutshell42> nekostar: btw. a way to cleanly move a debian system to ubuntu would be fine too, it's just that debian sid is borked atm and I need a replacement =)
[09:05] <sven> exxcaliber, was it really that easy :')
[09:05] <Exxcaliber> sven, yep :)
[09:05] <dabaR> Determinist: i use epiphany, and have not heard anything yet
[09:05] <Exxcaliber> well.. sven, sudo passwd
[09:06] <aramil> but i cant open my sources from synaptic
[09:06] <lukas> does anyone here know anything about ssh
[09:06] <aramil> i receive the message and the place where packages r is blank
[09:06] <sven> Exxcaliber, that only changes my own password, not that of root
[09:06] <Determinist> dabaR, k mate, thanks
[09:06] <Exxcaliber> sven, did you do sudo passwd?
[09:06] <mycket> lukas, just ask.
[09:06] <dabaR> !root
[09:06] <ubotu> root is, like, totally, rumour has it, that root is disabled in Ubuntu, actually this means there is no password set for the root account, use sudo when you need admin access, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:07] <sven> thnx Exxcaliber
[09:07] <harry_> sudo -h
[09:07] <Exxcaliber> sven, np :)
[09:07] <lysis> is there a better Soundblaster Audigy driver than what comes with Breezy? i'm unable to use TeamSpeak because it doesn't pick up my microphone at all (just makes funny noises)
[09:08] <lysis> or does anybody have an alt solution to fix the mic input?
[09:08] <Exxcaliber> !newb
[09:08] <ubotu> Exxcaliber: I give up, what is it?
[09:08] <blue-frog> lukas, question being?
[09:08] <Exxcaliber> hehe
[09:08] <Exxcaliber> !lsmod
[09:08] <ubotu> Exxcaliber: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[09:08] <Exxcaliber> damn..
[09:08] <harry_> sudo -s
[09:08] <harry_> sudo -s -H
[09:08] <Exxcaliber> !sudo
[09:08] <ubotu> sudo is, like, totally, the command to get superuser privileges, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:08] <lukas> ok, I need to access my linux box at school which is a windows environment in which I'm unable to install any programs. The best solution I've found so far is ssh with X-forwarding enabled. I don't know what would be required to get x-forwarding worknig on windows
[09:09] <Exxcaliber> lukas, how come you don't just use VNC?
[09:09] <lukas> VNC is slow
[09:09] <Exxcaliber> and X-forwarding aint?
[09:09] <korhalf> ANYone know why when i wine starcraft it looks for the cd but cant find it?
[09:09] <korhalf> its in the drive.
[09:09] <lukas> from my experience, its faster than VNC
[09:09] <nekostar> ok
[09:09] <nekostar> nutshell42,
[09:09] <Exxcaliber> lukas, okay...
[09:09] <nekostar> you still there?
[09:10] <Determinist> lukas, NX
[09:10] <Exxcaliber> korhalf, ask the wine development team :)
[09:10] <nekostar> i noticed you said something about a debian partition?
[09:10] <nutshell42> yes
[09:10] <nekostar> you can use the same /home directory :)
[09:10] <nutshell42> I assumed as much =)
[09:10] <nekostar> just make a different named user ok?
[09:10] <aramil> can anybody help me with this error message?i m a complete noob
[09:10] <nekostar> ah then yeah only one partition
[09:10] <aramil> E: The package cinelerra needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it."
[09:10] <nekostar> just toss in the disk and boot
[09:10] <nekostar> then choose the appropriate partition
[09:10] <Determinist> lukas, on a 16KB upload at home , i sometimes need to really pay attention to notice i'm not at home using my own home comp. it's just that good.
[09:10] <nekostar> and make that in ubuntu as boot /
[09:10] <nekostar> etc
[09:11] <nutshell42> nekostar: well, I can't, that's the problem
[09:11] <nekostar> should be just fine
[09:11] <aramil> how can i tottaly remove the package without using synaptic?
[09:11] <nekostar> ah
[09:11] <nekostar> what exactly is the problem then sorry
[09:11] <nekostar> it cant find the partition?
[09:11] <Infernall> where can i modify my grub config in ubuntu?
[09:11] <nekostar> is it a primary partition?
[09:11] <nutshell42> the partitioner doesn't show any partitions on the disk
[09:11] <lukas> Determinist: you mean like freeNX?
[09:11] <nutshell42> fdisk does
[09:11] <funktown> aramil: sudo apt-get remove <package> ?
[09:11] <Determinist> lukas, yes
[09:11] <nekostar> ic
[09:11] <Exxcaliber> Determinist, did you actually get NX working? i tried but found it very dificult.
[09:11] <AlexRM> How can I get TagLib 1.4 ? please
[09:11] <nutshell42> and I wondered whether I could use fdisk to partition the disk
[09:11] <nutshell42> and then install ubuntu
[09:11] <nutshell42> without using the partitioner
[09:11] <Determinist> Exxcaliber, just a sec, i'll get you a URL... Seveas wrote a howto on the wiki, he's the NX guru
[09:12] <nutshell42> but I would have to set the / and other mount points
[09:12] <nekostar> ah i c
[09:12] <nutshell42> and continue the installation
[09:12] <Exxcaliber> Determinist, Greate :D !!
[09:12] <nekostar> let me ask this
[09:12] <nutshell42> and I don't see how to do that
[09:12] <nekostar> can you do it in debian?
[09:12] <aramil> i tried but it shows the same message
[09:12] <fissy> nutshell42, yes, you can do that easily
[09:12] <nutshell42> btw. I don't seem to be the only one with that problem
[09:12] <nekostar> there we go
[09:12] <nutshell42> debian works
[09:12] <fissy> nutshell42, i do that when i install so i never have to wipe out /home
[09:12] <lukas> determinist: what's the freeNX website
[09:12] <nekostar> fissy, pls help him :)
[09:12] <mycket> Infernall, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:13] <fissy> problem is, i can't really remember how to do it off hand, i always work it out when i'm there.
[09:13] <nekostar> ok then
[09:13] <fissy> obviously choose to setup the partitions yourself
[09:13] <nekostar> AlexRM, let me look for the tagthing
[09:13] <Determinist> lukas, there's no freenx website.
[09:13] <nutshell42> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=55885
[09:13] <nutshell42> fissy: I *can't*
[09:13] <AlexRM> nekostar, Danke
[09:13] <nekostar> ok
 the partitioner doesn't show any partitions on the disk
[09:13] <fissy> and i think when you get to a screen showing the partitions you have, you press enter on one and then make sure you choose not to format it and choose a sensible mount point for it
[09:13] <nekostar> ive got the backports etc in AlexRM and i dont see it
[09:13] <Determinist> Exxcaliber, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX?highlight=%28freenx%29
[09:13] <fissy> oh
[09:13] <fissy> that's not good nekostar
[09:13] <nekostar> so its not a approved package that i can see
[09:13] <Exxcaliber> Thx:)
[09:13] <Determinist> lukas, look at the url i just gave Exxcaliber
[09:13] <fissy> have you got data on there you want to keep nekostar ?
[09:13] <AlexRM> nekostar, so how can I get it?
[09:14] <Determinist> Exxcaliber, np mate, have fun :)
[09:14] <nutshell42> that thread doesn't solve the problem either
[09:14] <nekostar> whats that fissy ?
[09:14] <fissy> sorry, nekostar i think i meant nutshell42
[09:14] <nekostar> lol fissy
[09:14] <nekostar> AlexRM, lets look for some source :)
[09:14] <AlexRM> nekostar, Cool :P
[09:14] <aramil> another solution?
[09:14] <nekostar> what do you need it for anyway?
[09:14] <lukas> determinist: is there an online client for NX that works decently fast?
[09:14] <Determinist> lukas, freenx is the server environment, the client is still proprietary and is freely distributed from nomachine.com, altho i've heard there's a free client in the workings
[09:14] <nutshell42> fissy: yep, I definitely don't want to erase the whole disk
[09:14] <nekostar> and what was the name? taglib right?
[09:14] <fissy> nutshell42, you say you can't see any partitions, are there any partitions?
[09:15] <AlexRM> nekostar, taglib yeh
[09:15] <nekostar> what do you use it for?
[09:15] <fissy> hmm, how are you going to get at your data if there aren't any partitions? or do you know where they should be and want to create them first?
[09:15] <AlexRM> nekostar,  Package requirements (taglib >= 1.4) were not met.
[09:15] <fissy> ^nutshell42^
[09:15] <AlexRM> nekostar, to compile BMPx
[09:15] <nutshell42> fissy: yes, there are; fdisk (in another virtual terminal) works just fine
[09:15] <nekostar> ah
[09:15] <nutshell42> fissy: there are partitions, lots of them
[09:15] <Exxcaliber> Determinist, is there a windows client available?
[09:15] <Determinist> lukas, follow that howto to install the server environment, then install the client on any windows/mac/linux machine you wish and voila
[09:16] <Determinist> Exxcaliber, yes mate, i'm using one right now from work
[09:16] <fissy> nutshell42, ok, that's really weird, I don't think I can help you with that. sorry
[09:16] <nutshell42> fissy: fdisk sees them, debian sees them, windows sees them, just the ubuntu partitioner doesn't
[09:16] <Exxcaliber> Okay.. And it's not laggy like VNC?
[09:16] <fissy> nutshell42, could you install debian then use dist-upgrade to go to ubuntu?
[09:16] <lysis> is there a better Soundblaster Audigy driver than what comes with Breezy? i'm unable to use TeamSpeak because it doesn't pick up my microphone at all (just makes funny noises)
[09:16] <Determinist> Exxcaliber, not to be compared...
[09:16] <Michael> Can someone tell me how allow access to my other hard drive partitions?
[09:16] <Exxcaliber> Cool :)
[09:16] <lukas> determinist: the server part is fine, but I can't install anything on the school computers. I need an online version
[09:16] <Determinist> Exxcaliber, much much better
[09:16] <fissy> nutshell42, you know, change all the repositories from debian ones to ubuntu ones
[09:16] <nutshell42> fissy: sounds like a good idea, how?
[09:17] <nutshell42> iow, what repositories do I need?
[09:17] <Determinist> lukas, there's an apache module in beta testing ... have a look at nomachine.com
[09:17] <nekostar> ok found it AlexRM
[09:17] <nekostar> wget http://www.lsr.ph.ic.ac.uk/~ho1/linux/deb/libtag1_1.4-1_i386.deb
[09:17] <lysis> Michael, sudo fdisk -l    tell the /etc/fstab what drives you want to mount
[09:17] <ali4728> Help! I put a new ATI graphic card into my Linux box, now X Windows wont start! It does not recognise the new card!! Any ideas?
[09:17] <aramil> can anybody help me plz
[09:17] <nekostar> as per google
[09:17] <nekostar> and this forum thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=304647
[09:17] <AlexRM> nekostar, does it matter than im on 64 bit?
[09:17] <nekostar> oi
[09:17] <Exxcaliber> ali4728, can't you set your xorg.conf back to default settings?
[09:17] <nekostar> anyone?
[09:17] <fissy> nutshell42, i haven't needed to do it, but i imagine you install debian just as you would ubuntu, then when it's up and running edit /etc/apt/sources.list and make it the same as a sources.list from a fresh ubuntu install
[09:18] <nekostar> i dont know about the 64 bit stuff./... fissy or Exxcaliber any clues?
[09:18] <ali4728> Exxcaliber, hav not tried that !
[09:18] <pequatre> hello. when "apt-get update"-ing, i'm told to run "dpkg --configure -a". but it then freezes on "parametring gstreamer0.8-a52dec". what should i do ?
[09:18] <nutshell42> fissy: I fear this will totally fsck up /etc, but I'll try =)
[09:18] <lukas> determinist, could I use this client and reconfigure it? http://www.cosmopod.com/podconnect.php
[09:19] <ali4728> Exxcaliber, how can have new card working?
[09:19] <Exxcaliber> ali4728, try it :) Cause you conf file is probally set to using your old video card :)
[09:19] <nutshell42> fissy: what's the name of the ubuntu standard distribution?
[09:19] <fissy> nutshell42, if you were to start from debian unstable, it'd probably be ok
[09:19] <fredforfaen> Hey a freind of mine has a problem...when he is going to burn cd's or dvd's he get this error;  Could not determine size of resulting image file ....anyone have a idea?
[09:19] <nutshell42> for apt-get I mean
[09:19] <ali4728> Exxcaliber, it was an integrated one!
[09:19] <AlexRM> nekostar, does a 64bit libtag exist?
[09:19] <Exxcaliber> ali4728, Hmm.. Well, i actually don't know what the default settings are, you'll have to read the documentation from xorg to figure that out
[09:19] <Michael> lysis: everything is already mounted, but it tells me I don't have permissions to access
[09:19] <Red-Sox> can u run aqua in linux
[09:20] <Exxcaliber> ali4728, well, it's still a video card / chip
[09:20] <AlexRM> nekostar, I got it!!!
[09:20] <ali4728> Exxcaliber, thanx
[09:20] <fissy> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted
[09:20] <fissy>  ??
[09:20] <Exxcaliber> ali4728, ur welcome
[09:20] <nekostar> AlexRM, since you got it
[09:20] <AlexRM> nekostar, few posts down it says taglib1.4 for 64bit, by Negatory
[09:20] <nekostar> share with me
[09:20] <nekostar> oic
[09:20] <nekostar> AWESOME
[09:20] <AlexRM> nekostar, http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0245939201/linux/taglib_1.4-1_amd64.deb
[09:20] <nekostar> now if i may suggest sir
[09:20] <mycket> Michael, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#fg-windows-partitions
[09:20] <lysis> Michael, try doing it as root with sudo. if you can access it that way, just simply change the permissions of that share
[09:20] <nekostar> keep that forums link in mind :)
[09:20] <Exxcaliber> Determinist, ??
[09:20] <nekostar> there is a LOT of help in there
[09:20] <nutshell42> fissy: no, I mean instead of "unstable" what should I put in apt.conf
[09:21] <AlexRM> yeh I will
[09:21] <nekostar> and since you have that down why not idle here and help others with stuff that you know ~_^
[09:21] <Exxcaliber> Determinist, just couldnt remember what room you where in :P May I Pm you ?
[09:21] <nekostar> its a team effort !
[09:21] <lysis> nekostar, i couldn't agree more!
[09:21] <nekostar> ^_^
[09:21] <fissy> nutshell42, i don't have one
[09:21] <nekostar> hehe lets mess once more witht he bot: smilie with sideburns::::
[09:21] <nekostar> !^_^!
[09:22] <ubotu> No idea, nekostar
[09:22] <fissy> nutshell42, i could tar up the whole of /etc/apt if you wanted
[09:22] <nekostar> hehe
[09:22] <tony_> Hi all! anyone able to use 6G ipod on ubuntu with gktpod or such
[09:22] <tony_> ?
[09:22] <nutshell42> fissy: thx, I think I found a howto
[09:22] <lukas> 6G iPod?
[09:22] <fissy> ok, cool
[09:22] <nekostar> oo ipod?
[09:22] <nekostar> i got that working
[09:22] <Exxcaliber> Determinist, ....?
[09:22] <nutshell42> fissy: thx for your help
[09:22] <nekostar> installed um
[09:22] <fissy> nutshell42, np, good luck
[09:22] <lukas> Exxcaliber: he seems to be gone
[09:23] <nekostar> gtkpod and just specified where it mounts to
[09:23] <tony_> nekostar :how? mine can mout easy but no more
[09:23] <nekostar> sweet
[09:23] <nekostar> ok tony go to terminal and do :: df -h
[09:23] <nekostar> where is it mounted?
[09:23] <mrtwister> hello. installed 5.10 server install, but not configured neetwork... how i can configure network from console under root?
[09:24] <Exxcaliber> lukas, so it seems
[09:24] <Determinist> sorry guys, at work, had a phone call
[09:24] <tony_> nekostar: yes sir /media/ipod
[09:24] <nekostar> awesome
[09:24] <korhalf> Can anyone help me get Starcraft working with wine?
[09:24] <nekostar> now ive not tried with another application but in gtkpod i have
[09:24] <nekostar> what app are you trying to work with it in?
[09:24] <dabaR> korhalf: try #winehq
[09:24] <mrtwister> korhalf, go to wine page, there is links to resources at one i seen detailed description
[09:24] <tony_> nekostar: then what? gktpod cant find some .db or other w8
[09:24] <nekostar> you have gtkpod?
[09:24] <korhalf> Thank you :)
[09:24] <nekostar> sweet let me open
[09:25] <nekostar> edit > edit preferences
[09:25] <Lord_Drachenblut> what apps are available for using an ipod with ubuntu?
[09:25] <nekostar> first tab there is input output
[09:25] <Seveas> Lord_Drachenblut, banshee and gtkpod to name a few
[09:25] <nekostar> under the first section you have ipod mount point
[09:25] <nekostar> change that to /media/ipod
[09:25] <nekostar> and your done
[09:25] <greatjones> hello, i would like to change my hosts file, but the system says that i do not "own" the file. how do i change the hosts file? i gather it has something to do with "root"", but i'm new to Linux so I'm not sure what
[09:25] <nekostar> lol
[09:25] <tony_> nekostar: yes it cant find iTunesDB.ext and complains of database damage on pos 668 in /media/ipod/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesDB
[09:26] <nekostar> ah
[09:26] <Lord_Drachenblut> will i lose what is currently on the ipod like with windows or osx
[09:26] <nekostar> lets see here..
[09:26] <Seveas> Lord_Drachenblut, no
[09:26] <Lord_Drachenblut> thanks seveas
[09:26] <mrtwister> hello. installed 5.10 server install, but not configured neetwork... how i can configure network from console under root?
[09:26] <nekostar> what i did was file > create ipod directories..
[09:26] <fredforfaen> !k3b
[09:26] <ubotu> hmm... k3b is "A sophisticated KDE cd burning application", its said to be the best burning GUI out there!
[09:26] <nekostar> but i dont know if that will work or so
[09:27] <nekostar> then i did file > synch stuff
[09:27] <nekostar> fredforfaen, i LOVE k3b
[09:27] <david_m_e> i finally remembered the other really important question i had: how much of a problem is viruses, worms, rootkits, etc... in the linux world? is there a quality a-v package? any good free packages?
[09:27] <nekostar> david_m_e, for me not much of a problem
[09:27] <tony_> nekostar: ok now but the read icon is greyed
[09:27] <nekostar> add firewall
[09:28] <nekostar> yeah
[09:28] <navyn> why do my apps installed with wine show up on my KDE menu's but not in Gnome
[09:28] <fredforfaen> Hey a freind of mine has a problem...when he is going to burn cd's or dvd's he get this error;  Could not determine size of resulting image file ....anyone have a idea?
[09:28] <Seveas> david_m_e, clamav + corbicula
[09:28] <nekostar> b/c its got it from the ipod should be
[09:28] <nekostar> do you see the list in the window?
[09:28] <david_m_e> i'm already behind a router; but what about downloads, emails that are infected ?
[09:28] <fredforfaen> anyone?
[09:28] <nekostar> david_m_e,
[09:28] <nekostar> you can get rooted from anywhere
[09:28] <nekostar> but your windows virii cant do shit pretty much
[09:29] <tony_> nekostar: i just add music and then sync?
[09:29] <barongas> Is there a way to expand a partition without wrecking it's content?
[09:29] <nekostar> should be tony_
[09:29] <nekostar> does it see whats on the ipod right now?
[09:29] <mannyman> how do I get the login screen to start at 800x600 resolution ?
[09:29] <david_m_e> spysweeper (for windows) is a highly rated anti-rootkit but i don't know anything about a-v-ware for -ix
[09:29] <greatjones> hello, how do i use ubuntu with root privliges?
[09:29] <david_m_e> thank you, seveas;
[09:29] <nekostar> greatjones, try using sudo before the command
[09:29] <Seveas> dave__, apt-get install chkrootkit
[09:29] <tony_> nekostar: how can i tell . i have the addad song as flagged in the songlist in gtkpod
[09:30] <david_m_e> i am still wondering tho... how much of a problem are viruses, etc... in the -ix world?
[09:30] <tony_> nekostar: is that what u mean?
[09:30] <fredforfaen> can anybody help this is kinda a crisis....
[09:30] <Seveas> david_m_e, not so much
[09:30] <nekostar> david_m_e, most of the time not much of one
[09:30] <nekostar> fred whats up
[09:30] <nekostar> tony?
[09:30] <barongas> My 200GB HD has a 40GB partition which I want to expand to cover the entire drive, save some swap. Can it be done without the files being destroyed?
[09:30] <Seveas> the only real crap is crappy php scripts that do xmlrpc
[09:30] <ViennaLinux> is there a special channel for Wireless things ???
[09:30] <nekostar> let me add a song to my ipod so i can see what u mean ok?
[09:30] <fredforfaen> he cant burn with any of the programs , gnomeburner gnomebaker and k3b
[09:30] <greatjones> nekostar: sorry i am a total newbie, whats sudo?
[09:30] <mannyman> how do I get the login screen to start at 800x600 resolution ?
[09:30] <nekostar> sudo means rootpower do command
[09:30] <nekostar> sudo apt-get update
[09:31] <nekostar> like apt-get update as root
[09:31] <barongas> greatjones, it's a command in the console that allows you to perform a command as if you were root
[09:31] <themuffenmann> sudo means super-user do
[09:31] <tony_> nekostar: yes pls . the song shows up in the left & right window
[09:31] <david_m_e> thanks
[09:31] <pozdiy> greatjones, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:31] <greatjones> nekostar:  where/how do i get to the console?
[09:31] <greatjones> neko: ok thank you i will go there
[09:31] <themuffenmann> what distro are you using great
[09:31] <themuffenmann> ?
[09:31] <themuffenmann> ubuntu?
[09:32] <nekostar> greatjones,  applications > accessories > terminal
[09:32] <barongas> greatjones, Programs->accessories->Terminal
[09:32] <nekostar> tony_, ok i added the song
[09:32] <themuffenmann> yep
[09:32] <greatjones> themuffenmann: ubuntu 5.10
[09:32] <nekostar> now i push the synch icon
[09:32] <themuffenmann> oh your on breezy huh?
[09:32] <tony_> nekostar: where do you see it in your gtkpod?
[09:32] <mannyman> how do I get the login screen to start at 800x600 resolution ?
[09:32] <themuffenmann> im still yet to try it out..im usin hoary right now but i placed an order on Launchpad for some pressed cds a couple days ago
[09:33] <matrix-ubuntu-c> how do i know if ubuntu supports arp-cache
[09:33] <greatjones> nekostar: ok thank you, i am at the terminal now...what do i do to change the hosts file? sorry to be repeating my question, but i am not exactly sure what to do now
[09:34] <themuffenmann> what host file do you mean
[09:34] <themuffenmann> ?
[09:34] <mannyman> how do I get the login screen to start at 800x600 resolution ?
[09:34] <nekostar> gimme one second greatjones
[09:34] <nekostar> tony_,
[09:34] <existance> I have fglrx set up and I am trying to get the drivers for my second card (nvidia), any one know how i give it to fglrx?
[09:34] <nekostar> i opened the folder for my ipod
[09:34] <nekostar> looked inside
[09:34] <mycket> mannyman, reconfigure the xserver
[09:35] <nekostar> its in there now
[09:35] <greatjones> themuffenmann the one that is used to redirect web servers to 127.0.0.1 =)
[09:35] <nekostar> the synch seems to put it on the ipod
[09:35] <pequatre> hello --> http://ubuntu-fr.pastebin.ca/32418 if anyone can help ?
[09:35] <nekostar> ok then
[09:35] <themuffenmann> ah..i dont know great..
[09:35] <mannyman> mycket, could you tell me how?
[09:35] <themuffenmann> mannyman,
[09:35] <tony_> nekostar: yes--- where in the menu is that? i get "u didnt sync database"
[09:35] <nekostar> so greatjones what are you needing to do?
[09:35] <nekostar> u didnt
[09:35] <nekostar> ah
[09:35] <fredforfaen> can anyone help
[09:35] <themuffenmann> at a terminal, type 'sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[09:36] <mannyman> ok
[09:36] <nekostar> tony_, file > synchronize itunes db
[09:36] <greatjones> nekostar: i need to modift the hosts file in the /etc directory, so that ad servers get redirected to 127.0.0.1
[09:36] <nekostar> fredforfaen, what do you need?
[09:36] <fredforfaen> Hey a freind of mine has a problem...when he is going to burn cd's or dvd's he get this error;  Could not determine size of resulting image file ....anyone have a idea?
[09:36] <nekostar> ad servers greatjones ?
[09:36] <nekostar> welll ok?
[09:36] <nekostar> let me find it
[09:36] <nekostar> hum
[09:36] <mycket> mannyman, open a console and type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:36] <dabaR> !enter
[09:36] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[09:37] <mycket> mannyman, yo will have to restart the xserver then
[09:37] <greatjones> nekostar yes you can modify the hosts files so that you don't get most ads in your browser
[09:37] <mannyman> mycket, which one ? this or "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" ?
[09:37] <nekostar> greatjones,
[09:37] <themuffenmann> scroll down to where you see something like Section "screen"
[09:37] <nekostar> ever think of using an extention?
[09:37] <mycket> "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[09:37] <greatjones> nekostar no whats that
[09:37] <rebort> can anyone help with http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16479 ?
[09:37] <existance> I have fglrx set up and I am trying to get the drivers for my second card (nvidia), any one know how i give it to fglrx?
[09:37] <themuffenmann> and it will have a series of resolutions, the one which is defined first on this line is the default resolution
[09:38] <nekostar> should be in /etc/hosts
[09:38] <nekostar> greatjones, firefox has extentions to do just that
[09:38] <david_m_e> i was wondering something similiar to mannymans question; my question: can the screen resolution be changed whenever one wishes, or is the resolution at boot the only one you will get that session?
[09:38] <lysis> does anybody here use TeamSpeak?
[09:38] <crimsun> david_m_e: whenever you wish (within reason)
[09:38] <david_m_e> crimsun: how would i go about that?
[09:38] <fredforfaen> can anyone help?
[09:39] <mannyman> mycket, thanks
[09:39] <Exxcaliber> lysis, i have used it for windows.. why?
[09:39] <themuffenmann> david: if you change your xorg.conf file, you will have multiple resolutions to choose from
[09:39] <mannyman> themuffenmann, thanks
[09:39] <existance> lysis, i've found ventrilo has a higher quality than ts
[09:39] <lysis> not working in linux
[09:39] <themuffenmann> did it work mannyman?
[09:39] <lysis> does it connect to ts servers?
[09:39] <mannyman> I have to reboot
[09:39] <Exxcaliber> fredforfaen, state you problem.
[09:39] <existance> lysis, i doubt it
[09:39] <fredforfaen> Hey a freind of mine has a problem...when he is going to burn cd's or dvd's he get this error;  Could not determine size of resulting image file ....anyone have a idea?
[09:39] <lysis> oh . . . it won't help me any then.
[09:39] <Exxcaliber> lysis, i don't think im the right one to ask
[09:39] <lysis> :(
[09:39] <themuffenmann> ok, try it out..if it doesnt work, check back in and ill give you soem more instructions
[09:40] <lysis> thanks for the attempt though =)
[09:40] <mannyman> themuffenmann, thanks again
[09:40] <themuffenmann> yep, no prob
[09:40] <rebort> i beg for help with http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16479
[09:40] <greatjones> nekostar where can i find them?
[09:40] <nekostar> open firefox greatjones and go to tools > extentions
[09:40] <linux_newb> i cant get samba working:(
[09:40] <nekostar> then click get more extentions
[09:40] <david_m_e> i don't know if muffman or mannyman are familiar with windows, but within windows, one can change the screen res at will and all apps running in that session will re-configure themselves to the new resolution; if such is possible under Ubuntu, how?
[09:41] <the> !tell the about ati
[09:41] <nekostar> fredforfaen,
[09:41] <dabaR> david_m_e: can you change the resolution using the gnome menu? System>Prefs>Resolution.
[09:41] <the> wtf. Get him to give me the links again
[09:41] <nekostar> what package was that error from
[09:41] <AlexRM> Can someone Please hlep with this Error: http://pastebin.com/448684 - > I just configuered BMPx and went to do Make and it was all going fien untill this error: http://pastebin.com/448684
[09:41] <dabaR> ubotu: tell the about ask the bot
[09:41] <fredforfaen> k3b
[09:41] <tony_> nekostar: i tried to copy the .db file from ipod to homr and i can. Why cant the gtkpod find it do you think?
[09:42] <david_m_e> thank you; obviously, i need to explore the menus more
[09:42] <kaz_> after updating hoary to breezy & rebooting, I get a black screen. I'm using an NVIDIA card.
[09:42] <dabaR> david_m_e: it works?
[09:42] <existance> lysis, i doubt it
[09:42] <existance> lysis, oops..
[09:42] <existance> I have fglrx set up and I am trying to get the drivers for my second card (nvidia), any one know how i give it to fglrx?
[09:42] <david_m_e> it shall try now, dabaR
[09:42] <the> dabaR:  I only need ati.
[09:42] <dabaR> the: ask him about it.
[09:42] <nekostar> dunno tony_ tbh
[09:42] <nekostar> i was lucky in that it just worked?
[09:42] <nekostar> hum
[09:43] <the> ubotu:  tell the about ati
[09:43] <dabaR> kaz_: you can try reinstalling the drivers. read pm from ubotu.
[09:43] <nekostar> im probably doing stuff wrong somehow lol
[09:43] <david_m_e> yes, dabaR, it worked great
[09:43] <greatjones> nekostar: thank you very much, that is a great resource
[09:43] <AlexRM> Can someone Please hlep with this Error: http://pastebin.com/448684 - > I just configuered BMPx and went to do Make and it was all going fien untill this error: http://pastebin.com/448684
[09:43] <kaz_> pm?
[09:43] <dabaR> private message
[09:43] <kaz_> oh
[09:43] <greatjones> nekostar: thank you for all of your help, i really appreciate it
[09:43] <tony_> nekostar: probably not.. you are in the right! i will try alternative ways.. winsucks xp thanks for the help.. kudos kudos
[09:43] <kaz_> thanks
[09:44] <nekostar> tony_, i know there is soemthing on it in the forums
[09:44] <AlexRM> Pwease help me
[09:44] <nekostar> let me browse there for a bit
[09:45] <tony_> nekostar: yes there conclusion from what i could find was that it doesnt work :)
[09:45] <nekostar> lol
[09:45] <nekostar> let me look about a bit
[09:46] <the> dabaR:  Damnit. It says they are available for 5.1, and then it says they aren't.
[09:46] <nekostar> ah tony_
[09:46] <nekostar> try synching and all
[09:46] <nekostar> then closing gtkpod
[09:46] <david> i'm back... i thought '/pm <message>' would make my message appear in red, but i got bumped instead
[09:46] <nekostar> and take ipod out and in
[09:46] <nekostar> then open again
[09:46] <AlexRM> http://pastebin.com/448684 <-- Please help me, I was compling BMPx and I went to do Make and this error came up
[09:46] <nekostar> and read from ipod
[09:46] <david> so, how do i respond to a specific person's message?
[09:46] <nekostar> AlexRM, i looked its beyond me sorry :/
[09:46] <david> never mind
[09:46] <dabaR> the: what? the 5.10 version of ubuntu?
[09:46] <nekostar> david,
[09:46] <AlexRM> :(
[09:46] <david> i will consult the help
[09:47] <nekostar> you need to be registerd to do pm's
[09:47] <kaz_> dabar: how do I get to shell though?
[09:47] <david> i don't know if i'm registered... i have been told that i'm certifiable
[09:47] <nekostar> yeah
[09:47] <tony_> nekostar: tried that. its my sis ipod and she wants to try it on xp. i would try more if it was my own.. thanks for the help though
[09:47] <dabaR> ubotu: tell david about nicktab
[09:47] <kaz_> it tries to go to the (broken) x session
[09:47] <nekostar> tony_, i can see the playlist stuff be updated when i do that
[09:47] <dabaR> ubotu: tell david about ask the bot
[09:47] <nekostar> tony_, why not back up the whole thing
[09:47] <nekostar> then you can have at it lol
[09:48] <fredforfaen> anyone know what i should do?
[09:49] <linux_newb> i'm trying to setup samba so i can access a networked windows drive, i need to put hostanem and domain name, what should go in domaain name? mshome?
[09:49] <vegos> my clock goes drastically fast and my video is played drastically fast, can anyone help
[09:50] <Lord_Drachenblut> linux_newb do you have a domain controller in your network
[09:50] <nekostar> tony_,
[09:50] <nekostar> did you make sure to tell gtkpod to create the directories?
[09:50] <linux_newb> no
[09:50] <jesusfish> anyone here ever successfully build alsa-source?
[09:50] <nekostar> b/c mine looks like i am pretty sure its supposed to lol
[09:50] <Lord_Drachenblut> linux_newb i believe with out a domain controller you can't really have domains
[09:51] <linux_newb> well im not sure what a momain controller is
[09:51] <ravi_> hi
[09:51] <linux_newb> domain*
[09:51] <dabaR> ubotu: tell jesusfish about alsa-source
[09:51] <Lord_Drachenblut> linux_newb think about the naime and it is kind of self evident
[09:51] <jansson> How can i make a shell script run without questions? It asks wether I want to run it or edit it.
[09:51] <linux_newb> but i'm trying to follow the instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba and i cant figure it out
[09:51] <vegos> my clock goes drastically fast and my video is played drastically fast, can anyone help
[09:52] <ravi_> has any one configured apache in ubuntu?
[09:52] <jansson> vegos, It's your computer, it's to fast.
[09:52] <kaz_> So if I am booting to a blank black screen, how do I get to shell to fix it?
[09:52] <dabaR> ravi_: thats not a great question. how would you like it configured?
[09:52] <vegos> not in windows
[09:52] <Exxcaliber> hehe
[09:52] <dabaR> kaz_: alt+ctrl+f1
[09:53] <kaz_> thanks
[09:53] <tony_> nekostar: yes?
[09:53] <david> NickServ, what i meant was: several times, responses to my questions have appeared in red, which has made it very easy for me to see them; how do i do that so i can tell others answers?
[09:53] <jansson> vegos, Sounds weird. I'd guess that the playing of video too fast is due to that the clock goes too fast. But the clock really should be the same as in windows.
[09:53] <jesusfish> dabaR: one quick question...any idea why it picks up the wrong dir to sinatll?
[09:54] <dabaR> jesusfish: no.
[09:54] <ravi_> dabaR, I have configured it in redhat. But in ubuntu, the configuration files are located in some other place. So I was wondering where it is located and how to start the httpd server
[09:54] <nekostar> when i look inside the ipod i get all the directories i did with windows is all
[09:54] <rebort> anyone have inspiration on bug http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16479 Z
[09:54] <vegos> it goes about twice as fast as my watch
[09:54] <dabaR> jansson: is that a serious answer?
[09:54] <nekostar> calendars contacts ipod_control etc
[09:54] <nekostar> my itunes folder and db is in there even
[09:55] <nekostar> [inside of ipod_control] 
[09:55] <fredforfaen> can anyone pls help me?
[09:55] <dabaR> ravi_: you install apache. then the conf file is in /etc/apache/httpd.conf
[09:55] <rebort> fredforfaen: with what?
[09:55] <nekostar> fredforfaen, i dont understand why he's got that problem?
[09:55] <dabaR> ravi_: have you installed anything in ubuntu yet?
[09:55] <themuffenmann> for apache on ubuntu just do 'sudo apt-get install apache2
[09:55] <themuffenmann> '
[09:55] <ravi_> dabaR, not the source but I have installed using apt-get plenty of times
[09:55] <the> How do you install something from an rpm?
[09:55] <jansson> dabaR, Well, except for the fact that its totally unhelpful, yes?
[09:55] <jesusfish> anyone know why alsa-source config script picks the wrong install dir?
[09:55] <dabaR> themuffenmann: apache2 is apache2.
[09:55] <ravi_> dabaR, only binaries
[09:56] <dabaR> ravi_: install apache, or apache2
[09:56] <themuffenmann> yeah, i was just saying if you want to install apache2 on ubuntu do 'sudo apt-get install apache2
[09:56] <ravi_> dabaR, How do I find which is installed ?
[09:56] <sonium> hi
[09:56] <fredforfaen> nekostar  a friend of mine has a problem with k3b he gets Could not determine size of resulting image file when he tryes to burn cd's and dvd's anyone can help?
[09:56] <the> How do you install something from an rpm?
[09:56] <themuffenmann> i dont think Archive Manager supports rpm format
[09:56] <ravi_> dabaR, will apt-cache search apache do the trick ?
[09:56] <dabaR> ravi_: use synaptic, or aptitude in a terminal, aptitude search apache and see whether there is a i to the left of the package name.
[09:57] <dabaR> ravi_: I dont use apt-cache/apt-get
[09:57] <nekostar> yeah
[09:57] <nekostar> im not understanding why its doing that
[09:57] <nekostar> does it also do that when running it as root?
[09:57] <dabaR> the: what is the rpm, why not install using apt?
[09:57] <fredforfaen> nekostar yeah
[09:57] <nekostar> hum
[09:57] <the> dabaR:  Just tell me how
[09:57] <nekostar> somethings farked up i think...
[09:57] <nekostar> did he do sudo apt-get dist-update?
[09:58] <fredforfaen> heh nekostar now its something about the writing speed , cant change to writing speed....man this is wierd
[09:58] <dabaR> the: I dont do requests. and also, I dont bork people's systems through IRC.
[09:58] <rebort> nekostar: no any other programs work for burning?
[09:58] <ravi_> dabaR, that is a huge list for me. and there is apache and apache2 and in the left side there is a 'p'
[09:58] <fredforfaen> nekostar i can get him to
[09:58] <nekostar> there are lots of em
[09:58] <ThePyromaniac> Guys, how can i sync my HP iPaq rx1715?
[09:58] <the> dabaR:   What?
[09:58] <nekostar> im just wondering if there is a dependancy problem somewhere..
[09:58] <dabaR> ravi_: that means it iss not installed. install one.
[09:58] <nekostar> also
[09:58] <dabaR> the: you can easily break your system with rpms, and I dont want to be responsible.
[09:58] <the> dabaR:  It's the ATI drivers, but they are rpm and I forgot how to turn them into like..deb or whatever
[09:58] <nekostar> have him delete his .k3b directory
[09:59] <rebort> ThePyromaniac: sudo apt-cache search ipaq gives you an rsync wrapper
[09:59] <dabaR> the: just get them from the wiki page.
[09:59] <dabaR> the: it will likely break yhour system pretty bad.
[09:59] <ravi_> dabaR, do you recommend apache or apache2
[09:59] <the> dabaR:  Why can't you just tell me the command that turns them into something that you can install from?
[09:59] <Talisker> where is the kernel located?
[10:00] <ThePyromaniac> rebort searching would have been a good idea first, sorry. sleepy! :D
[10:00] <rebort> ThePyromaniac: i'm not sure if that'll help you
[10:00] <xored> How to make a linebrake in the mathe-objekt-editor in OpenOffice ?
[10:00] <Talisker> /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-386 ??
[10:01] <rebort> ThePyromaniac: i remember reading lately on planetkde and p.g.o about opensync, i dont really know what it is but it sounds promising
[10:01] <ravi_> the, you may use alien to convert from an rpm to deb package
[10:01] <ioboss> i have a problem whit eclipse cdt...
[10:01] <ioboss> :(
[10:01] <ioboss> i cant install that plugin
[10:01] <ThePyromaniac> rebort dont really want sync, just wanna transffer files
[10:01] <the> ravi_:  Thank you.
[10:02] <dabaR> ravi_: you know, I dont recommend anything like that, I am not qualified. either will work if it is just for your personal use, I think.
[10:02] <ravi_> dabaR, So do I use apache or apache2 ? Which do you feel is better of the two?
[10:02] <fredforfaen> nekostar ill try
[10:02] <rebort> ThePyromaniac: anything happen when you plug it into your computer?
[10:02] <ThePyromaniac> rebort nah, nmap may work
[10:03] <ravi_> dabaR, I have used alien to install inscape deb package in fedora
[10:03] <rebort> ThePyromaniac: nmap?
[10:03] <rebort> ThePyromaniac: i dont think that transfers files, its a network scanner
[10:03] <ThePyromaniac> it said it supported stuff, and now i see you are right lol
[10:03] <dabaR> ravi_: to install a rpm driver on ubuntu will likely lead him to reeinstall the system. and the BinaryDriverHowto/ATI page of the wiki likely explains how to install the ATI drivers safely.
[10:03] <rebort> rebort: i think you can instal it on an ipaq, and thats why it came up
[10:04] <rebort> ThePyromaniac: Several popular handheld
[10:04] <rebort>  devices are also supported, including the Sharp Zaurus and the iPAQ.
[10:04] <the> http://hashphp.org/pastebin.php?pid=5588   when I alien my fglrx package
[10:04] <rebort> ThePyromaniac: check out opensync
[10:04] <Determinist> i wonder if i could install linux on my fujitsu-siemens Loox 420, tired of that cursed Windows mobile thing
[10:05] <ravi_> dabaR, I didn't know his problem.  Sorry
[10:05] <dabaR> ravi_: no need to be sorry.
[10:05] <dabaR> he asked for it.
[10:05] <ThePyromaniac> rsync is installed already...
[10:05] <Igloocentral> !raid
[10:05] <ubotu> I guess raid is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto
[10:05] <ravi_> dabaR, So do I use apache or apache2 ? Which do you feel is better of the two?
[10:05] <the> dabaR:  I'm running Breezy. It says right on there that there are no breezy packages.
[10:05] <the> dabaR:  I clearly stated that earlier.
[10:06] <Determinist> ravi_, apache2 works well for me
[10:06] <dabaR> the: ya, but that would be weird.
[10:06] <sethk> Determinist, it runs well on my fujutsu laptop, although I don't know if that's relevant
[10:06] <the> dabaR:  Weird if they didn't? Well then it's weird. Because they don't have them
[10:06] <ravi_> Determinist, thanks
[10:06] <Determinist> seth_k, doubt it mate, pocket PCs use embedded ROM operating systems.
[10:07] <rebort> anybody help with http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16479 ?
[10:07] <spikebike> umm
[10:07] <spikebike> I run linux on a pocketpc pda
[10:07] <sethk> Determinist, yes, I know, but they might share some hardware characteristics
[10:07] <dabaR> the: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[10:07] <seth_k> Determinist, you want sethk, not seth_k ;)
[10:07] <Determinist> seth_k, sorry lol
[10:07] <sethk> seth_k, whatever  :)
[10:07] <Determinist> sethk, perhaps, yes
[10:07] <ThePyromaniac> rebort i cant find opensync
[10:08] <the> dabaR:  Note: Currently, ATI Drivers for AMD64 are not available in Breezy (Ubuntu 5.10)
[10:08] <Tallen> is there a ubuntu package for Anjunta ? I tried 'apt-cache search anjunta' and returned nothing, am I doing something wrong ?!
[10:08] <dabaR> the: read that again
[10:08] <rebort> ThePyromaniac: opensync.org
[10:08] <silent_scream> has anybody used LIRC ?
[10:08] <dabaR> the: oh.
[10:08] <the> dabaR:  for AMD64. That's my processor.
[10:09] <rebort> ThePyromaniac: like i said i dont really know what it is
[10:09] <crimsun> !info anjuta
[10:09] <ubotu> anjuta: (A GNOME development IDE, for C/C++), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1.2.4-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 872 kB, Installed size: 2124 kB
[10:09] <crimsun> Tallen: helps if you spell it correctly
[10:09] <ThePyromaniac> rebort heh ok
[10:09] <dabaR> the: and you dont think that if it was that easy to install from an rpm, they would create one for the 64bit?
[10:09] <sergio> hola
[10:10] <sergio> hola
[10:10] <dabaR> crimsun: why are there no amd64 packages for ati?
[10:10] <the> dabaR:  Are you saying it's easy to install from RPM? Because I haven't been able to. IT gives me errors. I've tried the wiki thing before, so I know it doesn't work for me.
[10:10] <Tallen> oh, man thats so sad. Thanks your right I cant spell..
[10:10] <sonium> I cannot access my ntfs partitions
[10:10] <ravi_> Determinist, I am not able to install apache2. I get a error that the /var/../lock directory is already locked. And I do not have synaptic or any other software open
[10:10] <dabaR> the: no, I am saying that if it was possiblee, they would have included it in ubuntu,.
[10:10] <sonium> it says The folder contents could not be displayed.
[10:10] <angelo> i'm not able to access mythtv repositories in breezy
[10:10] <sonium> any ideas?
[10:11] <crimsun> angelo: do you have multiverse and universe enabled?
[10:11] <Determinist> ravi_, check "ps ax | grep apt" look for anything else that might be locking it
[10:11] <dabaR> sonium: post your /etc/fstab file to paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:11] <crimsun> !info mythtv
[10:11] <ubotu> mythtv: (A personal video recorder application (client and server)), section multiverse/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.18.1-5 (breezy), Packaged size: 16 kB, Installed size: 64 kB
[10:11] <sonium> it seesm correct, but ok
[10:11] <linux_newb> how can i play mp3s? rythm box is saying theres no plugin for them
[10:11] <angelo> yes i have eb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[10:11] <angelo> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[10:11] <ravi_> Determinist, It returns nill
[10:11] <dabaR> ubotu: tell linux_newb about mp3
[10:11] <crimsun> linux_newb: enable universe and install gstreamer0.8-mad
[10:11] <ravi_> Determinist, It returns nil
[10:11] <the> dabaR:  What the fuck?! This is pissing me off. Why is it that only MY system setup doesn't work!?
[10:11] <crimsun> angelo: no, that's breezy-backports. That's not breezy at all.
[10:11] <linux_newb> universe?
[10:12] <crimsun> !tell linux_newb about repos
[10:12] <dabaR> the: no, all people that have  amd64 can not get their ati working, it seems.
[10:12] <sonium> dabaR, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5393
[10:12] <Determinist> ravi_, time for a reboot then... and if you have any other versions of apache installed, now would be the time to remove them
[10:12] <ravi_> Determinist, wait maybe if I just log off and log on it might work. I will keep you updated
[10:12] <dabaR> crimsun: why are backports open by default?
[10:12] <the> dabaR:  I need direct rendering. I'm a fucking programmer and I need direct rendering for OpenGL. I can't play half of my games, eithe r.
[10:13] <crimsun> dabaR: snafu, probably
[10:13] <ThePyromaniac> rebort: balls, SynCE sounds good but for KDE
[10:14] <dabaR> the: we need you to stop swearing.
[10:14] <the> dabaR:  What am I going to do!?
[10:14] <silent_scream> has anybody used LIRC ?
[10:14] <rebort> ThePyromaniac: you may have to use it :)
[10:14] <dabaR> the: install a 32 bit chroot or something, I do not know. ask a good question to the channel.
[10:14] <ThePyromaniac> rebort an extra 76 megs!
[10:14] <ThePyromaniac> chuckle, but ok
[10:15] <dabaR> sonium: check out my post on that site, make your file look like that, and then run "sudo mount -a" in a terminal.
[10:15] <DUNFreak> Would anyone have a link to a tutorial on how to activate NTFS support with ubuntu^
[10:15] <DUNFreak> ?
[10:16] <rebort> ThePyromaniac: ask around a bit if youre reluctant to get all the kde libs
[10:16] <dabaR> !ntfs
[10:16] <ubotu> ntfs is probably the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[10:16] <rebort> DUNFreak: yes
[10:16] <thechitowncubs> t
[10:16] <DUNFreak> hehe thanks a lot :)
[10:18] <sonium> dabaR, it says I still lack permission
[10:18] <sonium> I added users and did mount -a
[10:19] <DUNFreak> any chance of read-write ntfs? (or possibly a ntfs2fat32 converter that won't erase my data?)
[10:20] <Seveas> DUNFreak, no on both
[10:20] <DUNFreak> darn
[10:20] <DUNFreak> gonna have to go with vmware to read/write then
[10:21] <dokkeri> DUNFreak: Best way is to make a shared fat32 partition for linux and windows I figure...
[10:21] <DUNFreak> trying to get rid of Windows at the moment actually as much as possible
[10:21] <sonium> sudo ls /media/hda1 works, while without sudo it not works
[10:21] <DUNFreak> I can still play games on my fiance's computer ;)
[10:22] <sonium> the permission of the mountpoint is only for root
[10:22] <sonium> should I change this?
[10:22] <sonium> if, yes, how?
[10:22] <DUNFreak> I guess my solution would be to use partitionmagic to create a fat32 partition, transfer as much data as possible, resize... rince wash repeat.
[10:23] <topyli> DUNFreak: no problem. install linux, throw your windows installation media away. -> done!
[10:23] <drapelyk> Anyone: is there an apt- command to remove a program?
[10:23] <jbroome> apt-get remove
[10:23] <mwe> permissions of mountpoints don't matter for mounted file systems. only options to mount
[10:23] <crouton> howdy folks
[10:23] <DUNFreak> topyli: I was stupid enough to convert my secondary partition to ntfs, but other than that, yeah that's pretty much it
[10:23] <drapelyk> jbroome will it remove all dependencies too?
[10:24] <firefly2442> anyone know if there will be an update for the gam_server 100% CPU issue?
[10:24] <sonium> mwe, specify
[10:24] <dokkeri> topyli: Nooo... Not yet... Once Fallout and Torment run under wine I Windows is obsolete :P
[10:24] <sonium> why do I have to be root to access the filesystem?
[10:24] <mwe> sonium: how did you mount the partition you're trying to access?
[10:24] <sonium> mount -a
[10:24] <dokkeri> They still run like crap
[10:24] <sonium> /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,users        0       0
[10:25] <topyli> dokkeri: i would keep a windows box around if i were a gamer. after all, people buy playstations too, why not windows boxen? =)
[10:26] <dokkeri> It makes me feel dirty :(
[10:26] <mwe> sonium: try dev/hda1 /media/windows ntfs nls=utf8,umask=0222 0 0
[10:26] <mwe> sonium: /dev/hda that should be
[10:27] <mwe> sonium: /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 ntfs nls=utf8,umask=0222 0 0
[10:27] <omp> does anyone know where I can get the Human icons from?
[10:27] <mwe> sonium: the umask is what is doing the trick
[10:28] <lightbright> hey hey, its fat Albert
[10:28] <xiaogil> is it possible to resume an upload with scp ?
[10:28] <Alex> Yeas.
[10:28] <Alex> er, yes.
[10:29] <bungle> hi all
[10:29] <Alex> Hey bungle
[10:29] <Fujitsu> Hi bungle.
[10:29] <bungle> hi Alex
[10:29] <angelo> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy multiverse that's working thanks
[10:29] <bungle> hi Fujitsu
[10:29] <sonium> mwe, doesn't work
[10:29] <sonium> It just display the help page
[10:29] <Alex> xiaogil: Use rsync --
[10:29] <Alex>  rsync --partial ./local/file remotehost:/path/to/remote/file
[10:30] <Alex> (will resume it)
[10:30] <angelo> it is possible to share modem connection?
[10:30] <DUNFreak> hmn. PartitionMagic supposedely can convert from ntfs to fat32 (according to linux-ntfs.org)
[10:30] <gil>  18:26
[10:30] <gil> 
[10:30] <Fujitsu> DUNFreak, yes.
[10:30] <Fujitsu> angelo, what do you mean? BEtween computers?
[10:30] <Coweater> running breezy, tested my sound with aplay and it works fine, amarok won't play through the gstreamer or xine engines, it just flys through the playlist, with arts it just sits still after clicking play
[10:30] <Fujitsu> If so, yes.
[10:31] <firefly2442> angelo, like a proxy?
[10:31] <DUNFreak> though I wonder if partition magic under vmware will screw up everything :(
[10:31] <bob832> if i wanted to find out what rules there were for port 113 in iptables, what would i do?
[10:31] <angelo> my modem is connect to internet. Can an other computer use it to connect to internet?
[10:32] <Fujitsu> angelo, if they are networked to yours, yes.
[10:32] <muzik> i went to bed lastnight, got up and ubuntu crashed, so i restarted and now grub is all screwed up, i got fedora up, and i got the ubuntu hdd set as slave, coudl anyone help me fix up grub?
[10:32] <nekostar> ok!
[10:32] <angelo> i must build a proxy server?
[10:32] <ThePyromaniac> anyone hear got an IPaq?
[10:32] <nekostar> now that i have my nvidia card set up nice
[10:32] <nekostar> i need to take it out :/
[10:32] <Fujitsu> angelo, not really.
[10:32] <ThePyromaniac> i seem to have 200 avantgo / ipaq syncing packaged but none of em do much
[10:33] <nekostar> so where do i find the module thing that tells the kernel what modules to load?
[10:33] <gil> gato lindo
[10:34] <nekostar> ubotu, unload module
[10:34] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, nekostar
[10:34] <nekostar> :/
[10:34] <nekostar> ubotu, module
[10:34] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, nekostar
[10:34] <nekostar> DA,
[10:34] <nekostar> M
[10:34] <The_Isle_of_Mark> nekostar rmmod
[10:34] <omp> So, know one knows where I can download the Human icon set from? :x
[10:34] <crouton> quick question - any harm from removing EVMS via apt-get if I am using LVM?
[10:34] <nekostar> rmmod?
[10:34] <nekostar> kay
[10:35] <nekostar> thanx The_Isle_of_Mark
[10:35] <Madpilot> omp: it's default in Ubuntu, you shouldn't need to download it...
[10:35] <The_Isle_of_Mark> nekostar, np man
[10:35] <omp> Madpilot: i use Gentoo
[10:35] <sonium> but why can root access the drive but not me?
[10:35] <ILF_> where's the gnome menu editor? there is no "gnome-menu-editor" command..
[10:35] <QRZ> bob832:  sudo iptables -L -nv | grep 113
[10:35] <The_Isle_of_Mark> omp get out! blasphemer!
[10:35] <nekostar> ah
[10:35] <nekostar> so like
[10:35] <The_Isle_of_Mark> lol
[10:35] <omp> The_Isle_of_Mark: :)
[10:35] <nekostar> rmmod -w nvidia
[10:35] <nekostar> then when i shut comp off it will kill the module then
[10:36] <kent> ILF_, rightclick on the Program-menu and choose edit?
[10:36] <bob832> QRZ: thanks
[10:36] <nekostar> and wont try to load when i turn back on?
[10:36] <nekostar> b/c i need to swap the system the card is in
[10:36] <QRZ> bob832:  np
[10:36] <The_Isle_of_Mark> nekostar it wont load the module if the hardware isnt there
[10:36] <nekostar> o:
[10:36] <nekostar> just reconfigure the xorg.conf then
[10:36] <The_Isle_of_Mark> nekostar, yep
[10:36] <isikhulu> Hello all
[10:36] <nekostar> what is the default driver do you know?
[10:36] <nekostar> hi isikhulu
[10:37] <The_Isle_of_Mark> nekostar, vesa
[10:37] <nekostar> ok
[10:37] <ILF_> or use nv
[10:37] <nekostar> thanx The_Isle_of_Mark
[10:37] <The_Isle_of_Mark> nekostar, np again
[10:37] <nekostar> ILF_, nv even though i will have no nvidia card?
[10:37] <isikhulu> Having a bit of a problem getting Audacity to record through my mic....
[10:37] <ILF_> nekostar: ok, not then, heh
[10:37] <nekostar> heh thought so but thanx
[10:37] <nekostar> :)
[10:37] <isikhulu> have Breezy running on a IBM ThinkPad T20....
[10:38] <isikhulu> I can hear my mic through the speakers but Audacity isn't picking it up
[10:38] <isikhulu> did quite a few google searches but so far no luck
[10:38] <nekostar> o yeah
[10:38] <nekostar> here's a good one for ya The_Isle_of_Mark and company:
[10:38] <opnsrc> When I browse folders, there is no address bar where I can type where I want to go and copy the address of the folder
[10:38] <Madpilot> omp: well, switch distros, and you'll have all the Human icons you can handle ;)  slightly more seriously, I've got no idea which package contains Ubuntu's default themes - search packages.ubuntu.com
[10:39] <opnsrc> How do I put one there, I see no option for it
[10:39] <opnsrc> ?
[10:39] <nekostar> is there a way to get the tty screens to have higher res for the text?
[10:39] <The_Isle_of_Mark> nekostar, yes, but I dont know how
[10:39] <The_Isle_of_Mark> sorry
[10:39] <nekostar> opnsrc, try edit > pref
[10:39] <omp> Madpilot: do you think it will be hard to find it on the CD?
[10:39] <nekostar> np lol
[10:39] <Fujitsu> sonium, I can probably help. Is it NTFS?
[10:39] <nekostar> ill look in the forums
[10:39] <Chrisx1> hey i got a q for Linux And Windows I Have ICS on Widows Will i be able to run and port forward ircd and ssh + vnc from windows to linux or not?
[10:39] <nekostar> hehe
[10:40] <opnsrc> oh thanks
[10:40] <nekostar> :)
[10:40] <crouton> !lvm
[10:40] <The_Isle_of_Mark> Chrisx1, no, windows ICS does not allow that to happen...well easily anyway
[10:40] <ubotu> hmm... lvm is (for the moment) http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
[10:40] <Chrisx1> do you know any portforwarding tool to do it?
[10:41] <illidan> hi
[10:41] <keez> hello
[10:41] <flame-boy> how do I change my IP with terminal ?
[10:41] <opnsrc> I still don't see an option to do that
[10:41] <keez> can anyone tell me how to compile only one kernel module?
[10:41] <nick_> change your IP?
[10:41] <isikhulu> Chrisxl, probably be better off running ICS through linux.
[10:41] <opnsrc> For an address bar
[10:41] <Madpilot> omp: no idea, sorry
[10:41] <Mabus06> Chrisx1, portforward.com
[10:41] <crouton> anybody use LVM frequently enough to answer some questions?
[10:41] <The_Isle_of_Mark> Chrisx1, easiest thing to do, but not the cheapest is an internet gateway router link netgear, dlink, etc
[10:41] <omp> Madpilot: okay, thanks
[10:42] <Chrisx1> lolz kk Mabus06
[10:42] <flame-boy> nick_ yes
[10:42] <keez> can anyone tell me how to compile only one kernel module?
[10:42] <Mabus06> Chrisx1, no joke, has good info for port forwarding with tons of hardware
[10:42] <flame-boy> how do I change my IP with terminal ?
[10:42] <The_Isle_of_Mark> flame-boy, ifconfig --help
[10:42] <isikhulu> Chrisxl, I'd suggest a Linksys WRT54G and put a third party firmware on it such as Talisman...
[10:42] <opnsrc> Is there something I can install that puts an address bar?
[10:42] <keez> can anyone tell me how to compile only one kernel module?
[10:43] <Chrisx1> I Dont have a router...
[10:43] <isikhulu> allows for all kinds of networking options such as VPN Server, VLANs, etc.
[10:43] <Mabus06> Well then what do you need to port forward for?
[10:43] <Chrisx1> .well i cant run a ssh shell on here
[10:43] <nekostar> i heard compile kernel is make menuconfig, make dep, make bzImage, make modules, make modules_install, or make oldconfig dep clean install modules modules_install, or make-kpkg clean && make-kpkg --version=local.1 kernel_image modules_image <<-- keez
[10:43] <isikhulu> He's running ICS through Windows
[10:43] <Mabus06> Address bar, opnsrc ?
[10:43] <Chrisx1> so id need a port forward
[10:43] <nekostar> so somewhere in there in the manules should be just that
[10:43] <silent_scream> how can i change the language in console to english just for this session ?
[10:43] <opnsrc> Yeah, of the folder I'm in
[10:43] <opnsrc> so if I were in /lib it'll show /lib and I can type /lib/mount and it'll move to that folder
[10:44] <Mabus06> oh
[10:44] <omp> in nautilus?
[10:44] <dspstv> how can i identify my soundcard, lspci -vv tells me nothing, but im sure theres some sound device... ?
[10:44] <opnsrc> and then if I were to open a random folder I can copy and paste it somewhere else (IE: the search field and search for stuff in it)
[10:44] <keez> nekostar, thanks but i want only one module to be compiled
[10:44] <Mabus06> No idea, I just thought GNOME uses what it does because they think its better.
[10:44] <omp> opnsrc: in nautilus?
[10:44] <keez> nekostar, not all
[10:44] <nekostar> keez, like i said
[10:44] <Coweater> any idea why firefox ui text won't obey my gtk settings?
[10:44] <nekostar> somewhere int he manules for those should be the answer
[10:44] <nekostar> lol
[10:44] <The_Isle_of_Mark> dspstv, lspci | grep -i aud
[10:44] <opnsrc> In folders
[10:45] <opnsrc> Just your regular folder
[10:45] <opnsrc> Like when you browser web pages
[10:45] <opnsrc> You have an address bar
[10:45] <fredforfaen> nekostar but he has problem w!hardware
[10:45] <opnsrc> that you can type www.google.com/blahblahblah and copy and paste that
[10:45] <fredforfaen> ops
[10:45] <dspstv> The_Isle_of_Mark, but will that list non-pci sound cards also?
[10:45] <fredforfaen> !hardware
[10:45] <ubotu> it has been said that hardware is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[10:45] <omp> opnsrc: you want this in GNOME's file manager, correct? :p
[10:45] <The_Isle_of_Mark> dspstv, no, what kind of sound card is it?
[10:45] <opnsrc> I have no idea what I'm using
[10:45] <nekostar> w hardware?
[10:45] <opnsrc> I think it's KDE
[10:45] <The_Isle_of_Mark> dspstv, isa?
[10:45] <opnsrc> whatever comes with ubuntu
[10:45] <dspstv> no idea
[10:45] <omp> opnsrc: do you have ubuntu or kubuntu?
[10:46] <dspstv> thats exantly what o want to know
[10:46] <The_Isle_of_Mark> dsptv, try pnpdump
[10:46] <opnsrc> Ubuntu
[10:46] <dspstv> its an old HP vectra
[10:46] <drapelyk> Anyone: how do I remove a directory even if it isn't empty?
[10:46] <nekostar> should be nautilus
[10:46] <dspstv> oke
[10:46] <_jason> drapelyk, rm -r
[10:46] <drapelyk> thanks
[10:46] <The_Isle_of_Mark> drapelyk, rm -Rf
[10:46] <opnsrc> I have this thing where I can click through different folders but not type or copy and paste folders
[10:46] <omp> opnsrc: it's in the gnome main menu somewhere, should be called Configuration Editor
[10:46] <opnsrc> gnome main menu?
[10:47] <silent_scream> how can i change the language in console to english just for this session ?
[10:47] <omp> opnsrc: after opening the configuration editor, go to applications >> nautilus, and it's somewhere in there
[10:47] <nekostar> config editor is applications > system tools > config editor
[10:47] <opnsrc> k
[10:47] <drapelyk> _jason, it says that -r is an invalid option
[10:47] <Xenguy> drapelyk: rm -rf
[10:47] <Chrisx1> btw whoever said u cant portforward on ics u can:p
[10:47] <Rockett18>   Home
[10:47] <Rockett18> -  Minutes
[10:47] <Rockett18> -  Java Links
[10:47] <omp> opnsrc: i would check, but i'm not using GNOME :p
[10:47] <Xenguy> drapelyk: careful
[10:47] <Rockett18> woops
[10:47] <_jason> drapelyk, what's the exact command you are using
[10:47] <Rockett18> accidentily hit paste
[10:47] <opnsrc> k thanks
[10:47] <drapelyk> sudo rmdir -rf *.*
[10:48] <Xenguy> drapelyk: or just *
[10:48] <_jason> drapelyk, rm not rmdir
[10:48] <The_Isle_of_Mark> drapelyk, rm
[10:48] <drapelyk> yay, thanks
[10:48] <_jason> drapelyk, the -r means "recursively"
[10:48] <drapelyk> _jason, alrighty thanks
[10:48] <opnsrc> thanks
[10:48] <_jason> drapelyk, np
[10:49] <Xenguy> drapelyk: it's cool - you can kill your pooter with that command ;-)
[10:49] <Peter`> could i use a ubuntu live cd to modify a Windows installation folder? can it read/write the different windows files formats?
[10:49] <omp> opnsrc: did you find it, cause i can give the instructions in more detail now? :p
[10:49] <nekostar> lol
[10:49] <drapelyk> Xenguy, if you execute it low enough?
[10:49] <nekostar> i did go > location
[10:49] <nekostar> then it showed up
[10:49] <opnsrc> Well I'm where you said
[10:49] <opnsrc> and I'm looking under desktop right now
[10:49] <opnsrc> Preferences
[10:49] <omp> opnsrc: i think it's in preferences
[10:50] <drapelyk> Xenguy, i'm in /var/www/blog so... :D
[10:50] <omp> opnsrc: always use location entry or something like that
[10:50] <nekostar> yeah
[10:50] <nekostar> thats it omp
[10:50] <nekostar> lol
[10:50] <ubuntu> hi everybody
[10:50] <nekostar> gj
[10:50] <ubuntu> i ve problems with grub
[10:50] <nekostar> hi ubuntu
[10:50] <omp> nekostar: :)
[10:50] <Xenguy> brb
[10:50] <szronik> Does anyone in here have experience with xatitv and the GATOS package?
[10:50] <ubuntu> i tried grub-install /dev/hda
[10:51] <ubuntu> but it says "The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly."
[10:51] <ubuntu> can anybody help me?
[10:51] <nekostar> in fact omp that was such a good idea i did for mine lol
[10:51] <nekostar> and put icons at 50%
[10:51] <nekostar> ok
[10:51] <omp> nekostar: haha :)
[10:51] <nekostar> well ill bbian
[10:51] <nekostar> er bbiab rather
[10:51] <omp> cya nekostar :)
[10:51] <nekostar> time to swap vid card to other system i guess
[10:51] <nekostar> cya
[10:51] <navarone> Config editor/apps/Nautilus/preferences/ at right click always show location entry or something like that...lol...will show a location address type bar in file browser then
 Was a little alte with that wasn't I...?
[10:52] <ubuntu> can anybody help me fixing grup?
[10:52] <Xenguy> drapelyk: yeah, or if you accidently issue it for fun to kill you linux installation, but forgot your windows partition is also mounted ;-)
[10:52] <ubuntu> *grub
[10:52] <paulproteus> ubuntu: Be specific.
[10:52] <drapelyk> Xenguy, hahaha
[10:52] <paulproteus> Did it used to work?  How did you break it?
[10:52] <Xenguy> heh
[10:52] <opnsrc> always_use_browser ?
[10:52] <ubuntu> i installed windows, so my ubuntu cant boot
[10:52] <opnsrc> it says if set to true it will always use browser window or something
[10:52] <ubuntu> with the live cd
[10:53] <The_Isle_of_Mark> opnsrc that is it, I just did it to make sure
[10:53] <ubuntu> i tried it with the live cd
[10:53] <opnsrc> k thanks
[10:53] <ubuntu> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu # mkdir /mnt/ubuntu
[10:53] <ubuntu> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu # mount /dev/hda4 /mnt/ubuntu/
[10:53] <ubuntu> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu # mount -o bind /proc /mnt/ubuntu/proc/
[10:53] <ubuntu> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu # chroot /mnt/ubuntu/ /bin/bash
[10:53] <ubuntu> root@ubuntu:/ # grub-install /dev/hda
[10:53] <ubuntu> The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[10:53] <navarone> opnsrc...always show location...second entry from top in app/nautilus/preferences
[10:53] <Xenguy> ubuntu: d0ze likes to be first AFAIK
[10:53] <Peter`> can ubuntu read/write to NTFS/FAT32?
[10:53] <Oceansblue> read only ntfs
[10:53] <Peter`> doh.
[10:54] <dokkeri> Peter`: don't know a bout NTFS but FAT32 is fine
[10:54] <opnsrc> k thanks
[10:54] <Oceansblue> w/r fat32
[10:54] <paulproteus> ubuntu: pastebin "ls -l /boot/ "  please.
[10:54] <Peter`> tring to find a way to fix my XP installation :(
[10:54] <logical_mark> Hey is there an easy way to transfer all my settings to another Ubuntu installation?
[10:54] <opnsrc> oh shoot the browser thing screwed it up more
[10:54] <Term[Away] > !captive
[10:54] <ubotu> captive is, like, totally, a project to use windows NTFS drivers under linux. It does not work properly with Ubuntu.
[10:54] <opnsrc> Let me re check that
[10:54] <Term[Away] > heh, seems like it doesn't work.
[10:54] <Xenguy> logical_mark: that can be done with the 'dpkg' command IIRC
[10:54] <dspstv> !icecast2
[10:54] <ubotu> Not a clue, dspstv
[10:54] <ubuntu> -rw-r--r--  1 root root   59868 2005-10-10 13:13 config-2.6.10-5-386
[10:54] <ubuntu> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root    4096 2005-12-04 23:46 grub
[10:54] <ubuntu> -rwxrwxrwx  1 root root 4403200 2005-10-29 22:06 initrd.img-2.6.10-5-386
[10:54] <ubuntu> -rw-r--r--  1 root root   94428 2005-03-31 13:08 memtest86+.bin
[10:54] <ubuntu> -rw-r--r--  1 root root  845016 2005-10-10 14:27 System.map-2.6.10-5-386
[10:54] <ubuntu> -rwxrwxrwx  1 root root 1188648 2005-10-10 14:27 vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386
[10:54] <Oceansblue> There is a project for r/w on NTFS but not ready yet
[10:55] <paulproteus> ubuntu: I said "pastebin" !
[10:55] <Xenguy> logical_mark: I can look it up, unless someone else knows right now
[10:55] <Term[Away] > ubuntu, please don't flood. use a pastebin or #flood.
[10:55] <dspstv> !freej
[10:55] <ubotu> dspstv: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[10:55] <opnsrc> There we go
[10:55] <muzik> could someone please send me or paste me a copy of their default 5.10 grub.conf??
[10:55] <ubuntu> what is pastebin???
[10:55] <muzik> mine has happily disappeared
[10:55] <opnsrc> thanks navarone , The_Isle_of_Mark , and everyone else
[10:55] <paulproteus> !pastebin
[10:55] <dspstv> !pastebin
[10:55] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[10:55] <silent_scream> how can i change the language in console to english just for this session ?
[10:55] <logical_mark> Xenguy: Yeah that would be awesome if you could look it up for me. Or tell me where to go...
[10:55] <opnsrc> makes life a whole lot easier
[10:55] <ubuntu> oh, ok
[10:55] <ubuntu> sorry
[10:56] <ubuntu> didn't know
[10:56] <chorse> silent_scream, export LANG=languagecode
[10:56] <rebort> anyone capable of helping with http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16479 ?
[10:56] <paulproteus> ubuntu: Try "sudo grub-install /dev/hda"
[10:56] <jesusfish> !uboto tell jesusfish about alsa-source
[10:56] <ubotu> jesusfish: I give up, what is it?
[10:56] <jesusfish> !ubotu tell jesusfish about alsa-source
[10:56] <Xenguy> logical_mark: K (this captures the existing apps installed; I don't believe it transfers other files (like config files) tho)
[10:56] <ubuntu> the same thing
[10:56] <jesusfish> !tell jesusfish about alsa-source
[10:56] <ubuntu> The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[10:57] <crimsun> jesusfish: /msg ubotu alsa-source
[10:57] <logical_mark> Xenguy: I might be better off just doing it all over again in that case. It dosn't take to long with SPM
[10:57] <opnsrc> you know the search thing
[10:57] <opnsrc> it still has the icons for the folder and doesn't let me type in the location I want to search within
[10:57] <paulproteus> ubuntu: What architecture?
[10:57] <opnsrc> within * or paste it. How do I fix that?
[10:57] <ubuntu> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/448768
[10:58] <ubuntu> architecture?
[10:58] <ubuntu> sorry i m noob
[10:58] <paulproteus> ubuntu: No worries.
[10:58] <ubuntu> but please help me
[10:58] <paulproteus> Try this: "sudo cp /lib/grub/i386-pc/* /boot/grub "
[10:59] <ubuntu> and then?
[10:59] <opnsrc> you know how you go to places > search . I want to be able to type in the address I want to search in
[10:59] <Mabus06> What's a good gui program for creating DVDs from .avi files?
[10:59] <logical_mark> Xenguy: I would think that in a linux enviroment, where it take significantly more time to get things setup the way you like, there would be such a "Files and Settings Transfer Wizard"
[10:59] <paulproteus> grub-install /de/vhda
[10:59] <paulproteus> grub-install /dev/hda
[10:59] <ubuntu> The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[10:59] <paulproteus> ubuntu: Okay.  Can you pastebin the contents of /proc/partitions ?
[11:00] <Xenguy> logical_mark: I have 4 lines for you (I'll paste 2 + 2)
[11:00] <Xenguy> logical_mark: dpkg --get-selections [pattern...] 
[11:00] <mrtwister> what is name oc C++ compiler in ubuntu and debian? in redhat it is gcc-c++, i want install openh323 on ubuntu..
[11:00] <Xenguy>               Get list of package selections, and write it to stdout.
[11:00] <Xenguy> logical_mark: dpkg --set-selections
[11:00] <Xenguy>               Set package selections using file read from stdin.
[11:00] <The_Isle_of_Mark> opnsrc, that is the gnome-search-tool
[11:00] <opnsrc> Where do I get that?
[11:01] <opnsrc> Or where do i get another search tool them
[11:01] <opnsrc> ?
[11:01] <Xenguy> logical_mark: I think there may be ways to do everything you want; I just don't know what they are :-)
[11:01] <opnsrc> then *
[11:01] <logical_mark> Xenguy: What replaces "[pattern...] "
[11:01] <The_Isle_of_Mark> opnsrc, the settings for that are in configuration editor under gnome-search-tool
[11:01] <ubuntu> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/448771
[11:01] <opnsrc> oh ok, thanks
[11:01] <kismet> How can I let ssh execute a remote command and then exit ?
[11:01] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, did you get mplayer and firefox working last night?
[11:02] <konstvet> I'm trying to get my soundcard to work but when I start esd it tells me "ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:868:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave"
[11:02] <konstvet> Any ideas?
[11:02] <Xenguy> logical_mark: not sure offhand - what do you think?
[11:02] <logical_mark> The_Isle_of_Mark: Yes I did thanks for all the help. Could you help me with remote desktop now?
[11:02] <ubuntu> ???
[11:02] <ubuntu> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/448771
[11:02] <Mabus06> What's a good gui program for creating DVDs from .avi files?
[11:02] <Xenguy> logical_mark: easy enough to try a few tests
[11:02] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, what is the prob?
[11:02] <Paradoxx> anyone know of a program i can use to convert wma files to mp3?
[11:02] <logical_mark> Xenguy: I will look into it all. Thanks for the headstart!
[11:02] <Xenguy> The_Isle_of_Mark: /last logical_mark
[11:03] <Xenguy> logical_mark: lemmee know how it goes :-)
[11:03] <Knowerrors> Hey all, anybody here ever use dvd swap/trade site like peerflicks? just reading about it and thinking of joining
[11:03] <Xenguy> The_Isle_of_Mark: er, /lastlog logical_mark ?
[11:03] <thechitowncubs> Hey guys, my touchpad stopped working today, it is a synaptics how can I check whats wrong?
[11:03] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, you want to setup remote desktop?
[11:04] <jdkycdoc> hi, i am about to install the nvidia driver in breezy, to follow the ubuntu hoary guide is the best option?
[11:04] <eLFanTasma> why there`s nobody in ubuntu-es?
[11:04] <logical_mark> The_Isle_of_Mark: I was following the directions at, http://ubuntuguide.org/#remotedesktop, but I don't know what port to forward on my router to access the desktop from ANYWHERE
[11:04] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, I see
[11:04] <logical_mark> Xenguy: Yeah I will let you know how it goes. I won't try anything until tmwo though.
[11:04] <konstvet> I'm trying to get my soundcard to work but when I start esd it tells me "ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:868:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave"
[11:04] <konstvet> Any ideas?
[11:04] <ubuntu> what is?
[11:04] <ubuntu> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/448771
[11:05] <ubuntu> no idea?
[11:05] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, Isnt vnc port 5900?
[11:06] <cliebow> vnc 5900-5999
[11:06] <cliebow> 5901 for first screen
[11:06] <ubuntu> can anybody help me with grub?
[11:06] <The_Isle_of_Mark> cliebow, knew it was something like that :)
[11:06] <paulproteus> ubuntu: Sorry, forgot about you for a sec. (-:
[11:06] <logical_mark> The_Isle_of_Mark: That what I thought. Let me ask, what windows client should I be using to connect? I choose TinyVNC, but when I try and connect, with port 5900 forwarded on my router, and I type my IP_ADDRESS:5900 it won't connect
[11:06] <ubuntu> np
[11:06] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, you know that vnc is unsecure, right?
[11:07] <cliebow> id use nx
[11:07] <ubuntu> and? what is?
[11:07] <paulproteus> Try "sudo update-grub"
[11:07] <ubuntu> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/448771
[11:07] <logical_mark> The_Isle_of_Mark: No... is there a secure way to connect to my desktop other than SSH?
[11:07] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, sshvnc is cool
[11:07] <cliebow> nx is faster
[11:07] <opnsrc> I can't find such an option
[11:07] <cliebow> prettier
[11:07] <thechitowncubs> My touchpad stopped working, any advice?
[11:07] <opnsrc> Is there another search tool I can download?
[11:07] <The_Isle_of_Mark> cliebow, never used it, better you say?
[11:07] <cliebow> and the author can do the "Packet Dance"
[11:07] <ubuntu> and then grub-install /dev/hda?
[11:07] <logical_mark> The_Isle_of_Mark: apt-get is not finding it
[11:08] <paulproteus> ubuntu: No, just update-grub.
[11:08] <paulproteus> update-grub should do the install, as I understand it.
[11:08] <The_Isle_of_Mark> cliebow, one nice thing about sshvnc, no vncserver and only uses port 22
[11:08] <konstvet> Anyone who can help with my sound problem?
[11:08] <cliebow> x11 tunnelled thru ssh..and compressed
[11:08] <ubuntu> and then?
[11:08] <sls> where in each user profile can i launch scripts?
[11:08] <ubuntu> reboot?
[11:08] <The_Isle_of_Mark> cliebow, then it is about the same, so nx is faster? is it in a repo?
[11:08] <paulproteus> ubuntu: Yes.
[11:08] <paulproteus> Reboot.
[11:08] <paulproteus> Cross your fingers.
[11:08] <ubuntu> ok bye
[11:09] <ubuntu> if dont work, i ll come back ;)
[11:09] <cliebow> ive used it in redhat alot..never have in ubuntu..it should be in repo
[11:09] <ubuntu> hehehe
[11:09] <ubuntu> stole his nick :)
[11:10] <paulproteus> konstvet: Be specific.  What's the problem?
[11:10] <konstvet> I'm trying to get my soundcard to work but when I start esd it tells me "ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:868:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave"
[11:10] <thechitowncubs> STUPID TOUCHPAD
[11:10] <rem_> hey anyone installed a network printer with ubuntu ?
[11:10] <thechitowncubs> why did it stop working just out of the blue
[11:10] <rem_> i tried with 3 different and never succeeded ..
[11:10] <The_Isle_of_Mark> cliebow what type of viewer is needed on the other side?
[11:11] <airox> Anybody tried that free version of Oracle already ?
[11:11] <rem_> I have to keep a mandrake cze I cant print with ubuntu ! :(
[11:11] <cliebow> the nxclient from nomacnine rocks
[11:11] <opnsrc> Are there any other search tools available?
[11:11] <konstvet> paulproteus: 'm trying to get my soundcard to work but when I start esd it tells me "ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:868:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave"
[11:11] <Paradoxx> any1 kno a program i can uyse to convert wma to mp3 or flac files?
[11:11] <linux_newb> can i change the brown color at the top of the windows to something else
[11:11] <airox> opnsrc: checkout beagle for searching.
[11:12] <Madpilot> linux_newb: System menu - Preferences - Theme
[11:12] <opnsrc> thanks
[11:12] <rem_> hey anyone installed a network printer with ubuntu ?
[11:12] <paulproteus> linux_newb: System -> Preferences -> Theme
[11:12] <airox> rem_: yes.
[11:12] <rem_> ..how ?
[11:12] <airox> Through the wizard.
[11:12] <Paradoxx> !printer
[11:12] <ubotu> somebody said printer was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[11:12] <Dr_Willis> yep - the wizard was a wiz!
[11:12] <rem_> the recommended postscript driver never works and the 2-3 others neither ..
[11:13] <cliebow> i pick unix lpd printing
[11:13] <rem_> I tried woth 1260, 2060, 2400c Brother and samsung clp500
[11:13] <rem_> none seems to work with ubuntu ..
[11:13] <airox> Try harder :)
[11:13] <konstvet> paulproteus: 'm trying to get my soundcard to work but when I start esd it tells me "ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:868:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave"
[11:13] <rem_> been trying for over 1 year now ..
[11:13] <rem_> since warthy ,.
[11:13] <thechitowncubs> touchpad stopped working meh
[11:14] <rem_> I tried 93275 diff driv4ers ..
[11:14] <paulproteus> rem_: Dude, I have a Samsumg ML-1210 that works fine with Ubuntu.
[11:14] <rem_> how did u install it ?
[11:14] <cliebow> host 192.168.0.231
[11:14] <rem_> just the default printer installation ?
[11:14] <paulproteus> rem_: I used the wizard. (-:
[11:14] <airox> rem_: What do your logs say ?
[11:14] <paulproteus> It told me the best driver was "gdi" so I used that.
[11:14] <cliebow> Queue..lp for an hp4
[11:14] <paulproteus> I might have had to install some extra packages, though.
[11:14] <guest000> hi, i'd like to access my printer over lan from windows xp, but windows cannot find my machine..
[11:14] <guest000> oh, no voice
[11:15] <guest000> wait
[11:15] <airox> guest000: We hear you.
[11:15] <airox> ;)
[11:15] <paulproteus> rem_: http://rafb.net/paste/results/3fYGGY49.html is the packages I have installed that are relevant
[11:15] <fend> a very good evening all
[11:15] <rem_> actually it does print, but just 3 line with the description and one line with symbols
[11:15] <rem_> ill have a look thx
[11:15] <airox> evenin fend
[11:16] <The_Isle_of_Mark> konstvet, did you get your sound resolved?
[11:16] <fend> I have a short question that I would like to ask..aqui vamos!
[11:16] <konstvet> The_ISle_of_Mark: Nope. Afraid not... Any ideas?
[11:17] <lightbright> hey hey, its fat Albert
[11:17] <lightbright> :)
[11:17] <lightbright> god: change your nick please
[11:17] <fend> I installed ndiswrapper from source and installed my windriver. I also added ndiswrapper to the boot proces. Now the problem is that it crashes my kernel when booting. How can I get into linux again and prevent the ndiswrapper from booting?
[11:17] <god> lightbright:  Why?
[11:17] <lightbright> god: because you are no God, so stop dreaming pal!
[11:18] <lightbright> god: it seems you have a very low self-esteem to want to claim to be god
[11:18] <god> lightbright:  I'm not dreaming, bud. I don't care if I'm not a god. So why does it bother you?
[11:18] <linkd> god: cuz it might be offensive to others.
[11:18] <god> lightbright:  I have fine self esteem.
[11:18] <lightbright> god: welcome to my ignore
[11:18] <The_Isle_of_Mark> konstvet, try doing a sudo lsof | grep snd and kill any processes that are using the snd
[11:18] <rem_> cupsys-pt this was the only one I didnt have..ill see if it helps ..
[11:18] <lightbright> god: keep lying to yourself, ignored
[11:18] <ubuntu> hi
[11:18] <nealz> Shit, people are assholes.
[11:18] <ubuntu> i m back
[11:18] <nealz> Anyways.
[11:18] <linux_newb> im not sure my vid card is working properly, the screens a bit jerky sometimes, esp with some themes, its a GeForce2 MX400 will i need to install special drivers or anything
[11:18] <ubuntu> dont work
[11:19] <Red-Sox> Mr. snorks?
[11:19] <Zealot87> hey, can someone give me the the universe repository lines?
[11:19] <nealz> How do you install SDL, SDL_image, SDL_mixer, SDL_ttf, and all the headers?
[11:19] <The_Isle_of_Mark> konstvet, oops that should have been sudo lsof | grep alsa
[11:19] <mannyman> is there a graphical tool to edit GRUB ?
[11:19] <sls> linux_newb, install the drivers from nvidia.com
[11:19] <ubuntu> can anybody help me with grub?
[11:19] <Zealot87> no, just boot files
[11:20] <airox> mannyman: gedit ? ;)
[11:20] <Zealot87> could someone tell me the lines for the universe repositories
[11:20] <fend> is there any way to get in linux or linux shell without using a livecd if linux crashes on booting?
[11:20] <Madpilot> !tell Zealot87 about repos
[11:20] <ubuntu> i partioned my harddisk an then installed windwos
[11:20] <sls> linux_newb, and change the "nv" to "nvidia" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:20] <airox> fend: kernel panic ?
[11:20] <mannyman> well how about documentation ?
[11:20] <mannyman> for GRUB
[11:20] <LexiCon> why is my ipw2200 wireless card set @ eth1 and my ethernet at eth0?
[11:20] <airox> fend: or just a crash during init phase ?
[11:20] <fend> no, ndiswrapper problem
[11:20] <ubuntu> now ubuntu isnt booting
[11:20] <sls> sls
[11:20] <airox> fend: try applying init=/bin/bash to the kernel parameters in grub
[11:21] <The_Isle_of_Mark> LexiCon, that is default in linux
[11:21] <Zealot87> Madpilot, I was just there, it doesnt give the actual repository line, im in server, and I accidently deleted the repository lines, and I just wanted to uncomment them
[11:21] <nealz> How do you install SDL, SDL_image, SDL_mixer, SDL_ttf, and all the headers?
[11:21] <LexiCon> is that default?
[11:21] <The_Isle_of_Mark> LexiCon, yes
[11:21] <LexiCon> it was the other way around for me on Hoary
[11:21] <LexiCon> 0.o
[11:21] <LexiCon> oh well
[11:21] <ubuntu> ???
[11:21] <ogg> Hi, where can I find a list of what packages gets installed, when doing a 'server' install? And where can I find the page describing all the packages, and what section they belong to. Multiverse, Universe etc. Thanks.
[11:21] <airox> fend: that would mean: press e during grub menu, move to the kernel line, press e again and append init=/bin/basb, press enter and press b
[11:21] <levander> Anybody know where to buy the Samsung Spinpoint SATA 250 GB drive? It's getting good reviews, but I can't find the SATA version online.
[11:21] <Madpilot> Zealot87:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 if that helps, or I can pm you with the text of that link
[11:21] <LexiCon> just wondering if it was something I should worry about
[11:21] <LexiCon> apparently not
[11:21] <ubuntu> anybody can help me with grub?
[11:21] <n0dl> yup
[11:21] <mannyman> well how about documentation for GRUB/boot files editing?
[11:21] <airox> ubuntu: what's wrong ?
[11:21] <The_Isle_of_Mark> LexiCon, dont sweat it
[11:22] <fend> hmm, maybe stupid question..but how can I add that when the grub is showed?
[11:22] <Zealot87> Madpilot! thanks so much! it
[11:22] <Zealot87> is exactly what i need
[11:22] <ubuntu> airox: i partioned my harddisk and then installed windows
[11:22] <airox> fend: like i told you, press e and the rest
[11:22] <lightbright> fend: edit the /boot/menu.lst
[11:22] <mycket> ubuntu, WIN doesn't share the MBR with other Systems :-(
[11:22] <airox> ubuntu: and when did u installed ubuntu ?
[11:22] <paulproteus> ubuntu: Are you the same one who was here about fifteen minutes ago?
[11:22] <fend> and how can I edit that if i'm unable to get into ubuntu?
[11:22] <halibut> any ubuntu + gmail + firefox 1.5 users who can help me test my firefox extension (it has a ubuntu theme as one of the options, but I think I am a bit off with the colours :)
[11:23] <ubuntu> before windows and partioning
[11:23] <airox> fend: you can do this when you see the OS selection emnu
[11:23] <konstvet> The_Isle_of_Mark: It refuses not to reboot gnome-set which uses alsa
[11:23] <ubuntu> yes
[11:23] <Zealot87> i wish i knew which repos were the ones that i deleted
[11:23] <mycket> ubuntu, you can reinstall ubuntu or try to reinstall grub from a live-cd
[11:23] <sls> ..
[11:23] <airox> ubuntu: before partitioning!?
[11:23] <ubuntu> paulproteus: yes
[11:23] <airox> omg ...
[11:23] <fend> aha, ok..I will check it out right now
[11:23] <fend> thanks
[11:23] <nealz> How do you install SDL, SDL_image, SDL_mixer, SDL_ttf, and all the headers?
[11:23] <airox> fend: good luck with it!
[11:23] <Madpilot> Zealot87: sounds like it might be easiest to just rewrite the whole sources.list
[11:23] <ubuntu> i tried to reinstall grub, but it doesnt work
[11:23] <mannyman> where can I find documentation for GRUB/boot files editing?
[11:24] <ubuntu> after grub-install /dev/hda:
[11:24] <ubuntu> The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[11:24] <airox> mannyman: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/grub-legacy-support.en.html
[11:24] <levander> mannyman: there's a grub-doc package, and the grub manual is online - just google grub, it's second response
[11:24] <mannyman> thanks all
[11:25] <mycket> nealz, in synaptic look for libsdl- packages
[11:25] <Dr_Willis> mannyman,  grub has a VERY VERY well done homepage with detailed docs.. google is our friend. :P
[11:25] <ibrasil> someone knows how to change qt theme?
[11:25] <levander> ubuntu: boot with the livecd, mount the / partition, chroot to where you mounted it, '/sbin/grub-install /dev/hda'
[11:25] <konstvet> The_Isle_of_Mark: It refuses not to reboot gnome-set which uses alsa
[11:25] <ubuntu> levander: i did so
[11:25] <levander> ubuntu: mount the / partition of /dev/hda
[11:26] <ubuntu> it says : The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly
[11:26] <The_Isle_of_Mark> konstvet, how many returns did you have on the lsof command?
[11:26] <levander> ubuntu: it says that when you boot or when you run grub-install?
[11:26] <pppoe_dude> how can i install ubuntu without sudo and with user implementation very similar to debian?
[11:26] <ubuntu> when i run grup-install
[11:26] <konstvet> The_Isle_of_Mark: 2. gnome-set and mixer_app
[11:26] <levander> pppoe_dude: there's some doc's on the wiki for how to disable sudo
[11:27] <pppoe_dude> if i do the expert install, eventually, if i try running any root-only commands from the menu, it is impossible to get them running
[11:27] <The_Isle_of_Mark> konstvet, and what are you trying to use with?
[11:27] <levander> ubuntu: and you've chrooted before you run grub-install?
[11:27] <ubuntu> yes
[11:27] <pppoe_dude> levander, i already had sudo disabled, but there are still left overs... ill check the wiki tho
[11:27] <pppoe_dude> !sudo
[11:27] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, sudo is the command to get superuser privileges, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[11:27] <ubuntu> chroot /mnt/ubuntu /bin/bash
[11:27] <Dr_Willis> Ive often wondered why even bothe rwith the expert install. :P it just seems to break more things then it fix's
[11:27] <konstvet> The_Isle_of_Mark: With what? I'm just trying to start esd...
[11:28] <levander> ubuntu: in the chroot, run mount to make sure everything's mounted correctly before you run it, if you have a separate boot partition, make sure that's mounted
[11:28] <Madpilot> Dr_Willis: I was thinking more or less the same thing...
[11:28] <The_Isle_of_Mark> konstvet, can you aplay anything?
[11:28] <levander> ubuntu: run 'mount' to make everything's mounted corrected**
[11:28] <Dr_Willis> Madpilot,  i installe on a new box last night and dident even SEE any 'expert' thing mentioned..
[11:28] <ubuntu> levander: ok
[11:28] <konstvet> The_Isle_of_Mark: Nope, it says the device doesn't exist.
[11:28] <The_Isle_of_Mark> konstvet, what kind of card is it?
[11:28] <LexiCon> ok, got a slight problem here...when I boot up, my wireless works fine. but if I go afk for a bit, the wireless doesn't work anymore (but network configuration still says 'The interface eth1 is active' and all settings are fine)
[11:29] <Madpilot> Dr_Willis: you type it in at the install prompt
[11:29] <LexiCon> is there any way to start it back up again?
[11:29] <lewis> hi, i have a question
[11:29] <ubuntu> it doesnt work
[11:29] <pbransford> can anyone recomend a small, easy to configure, and low-load web server?
[11:29] <bob832> reading up on iptables...if i wanted to block port 113, would this command do it?
[11:29] <Skies> how I can upgrade firefox to 1.5? :P
[11:29] <ubuntu> after mount, i tried grub-install /dev/hda
[11:29] <pbransford> apache is overkill for what i need/want
[11:29] <bob832> iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 113 -i eth0 -j REJECT
[11:29] <ubuntu> same problem
[11:29] <konstvet> The_Isle_of_Mark: Some very ordinary soundblaster card.
[11:29] <The_Isle_of_Mark> konstvet, specifically isa or pci?
[11:29] <lewis> how do i update Kde in ubuntu to 3.5
[11:30] <pbransford> bob832, do DROP instead of REJECT if you don't want to respond to that port at all.
[11:30] <confrey> hi everybody
[11:30] <confrey> I need som help to configure my wifi pcmcia card.... can anybody help me?
[11:30] <bob832> pbransford: ok, thanks
[11:30] <The_Isle_of_Mark> confrey what kind of card?
[11:30] <Red-Sox> can somebody plz say ' Red-Sox' im testing out a new feature in my client
[11:31] <ubuntu> maybe the problem is that ubuntu was hda3 and after partition it it was hda4
[11:31] <The_Isle_of_Mark> Red-Soc
[11:31] <The_Isle_of_Mark> Red-Sok
[11:31] <The_Isle_of_Mark> Red-Sock
[11:31] <ubuntu> but i dont know how to fix it
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> lewis,  the Kubuntu homepage has some details on that, i saw last week or so.
[11:31] <The_Isle_of_Mark> Red-Socks
[11:31] <konstvet> The_Isle_of_Mark: ISA
[11:31] <The_Isle_of_Mark> Red-Sox
[11:31] <The_Isle_of_Mark> heheh
[11:31] <Red-Sox> haha
[11:31] <Skies> how I can upgrade firefox 1.0.7 to 1.5? :P
[11:31] <lewis> thanx, i trired adding the link to my source list but it doesnt connect
[11:31] <confrey> The_Isle_of_Mark, a digicom, chip rtl8180; it's working, witn windows driver by ndiswrapper; the ap is working, I don't know well how to configure it
[11:31] <Red-Sox> i have a sound set when someone says my name, in this case... homer's DOH!, The_Isle_of_Mark
[11:31] <The_Isle_of_Mark> konstvet, ok, if it is isa then do a sudo pnpdump and get the irq from the card
[11:32] <The_Isle_of_Mark> confrey, use wifi-radar
[11:32] <ogg> what version of the linux core is used in ubuntu 5.10, standardinstall?
[11:32] <HrdwrBoB> er
[11:32] <paulproteus> ogg: The linux kernel, you mean?
[11:32] <silent_scream> i have a problem with compiling lirc: http://pastebin.ca/32430 . what am i doing wrong ?
[11:32] <paulproteus> uname -r
[11:32] <HrdwrBoB> you mean kernel version?
[11:33] <fog> ogg, 2.6.12
[11:33] <funktown> ogg > type in "uname -r"
[11:33] <ogg> yeah, the linux kernel :)
[11:33] <rem_> what is the syntax for a network printer trhough ipp .. : ipp://192.168.x.x:9100 .. ?
[11:33] <RAW-mEAT> hello, i cant start X - as normal user. when i do startx it says "already running on display 0" only if i do "sudo startx" but thats not my desktop and stuff :(
[11:33] <chorse> ogg, 2.6.12 + patches
[11:33] <paulproteus> silent_scream: Try this:
[11:33] <ogg> ok
[11:33] <paulproteus> apt-get install module-assistant
[11:33] <levander> ubuntu: why not paste your /boot/grub/menu.lst, i'll look at it
[11:33] <konstvet> The_Isle_of_Mark: Hmmm... I don't seem to have pnpdump command
[11:33] <paulproteus> module-assistant auto-install lirc
[11:33] <paulproteus> Don't do it manually.
[11:34] <ubuntu> ok
[11:34] <Jxpx> chile
[11:34] <ubuntu> wait a moment
[11:34] <rem_> paulproteus, airox ->
[11:34] <rem_> what is the syntax for a network printer trhough ipp .. : ipp://192.168.x.x:9100 .. ?
[11:34] <steve__> hey all.  Does anybody know how i could cross compile something for the ARM processor?
[11:34] <funktown> rem_ it varies on different networks
[11:34] <ubuntu> where should i paste it?
[11:34] <The_Isle_of_Mark> konstvet, I dont think it shows up in lspci but try it
[11:35] <funktown> example: mine is 192.168.2.4 ..but it could be .1.3 on yours
[11:35] <rem_> i have a 192.168.x.x network with 2 printers on it ..
[11:35] <ogg> there will not be an update for the kernel until next release of ubuntu? (dapper)
[11:35] <levander> bucky: that 200gb does have a different model number than the one in the tomshardware article
[11:35] <Skies> what folder I have to extract firefox-1.5.tar.gz to upgrade that one what came with the os?
[11:35] <chorse> steve__, i'd recommend qemu + debian arm
[11:35] <konstvet> The_Isle_of_Mark: It didn't. Oh, bother... I'll go fetch a more modern PCI card instead...
[11:35] <steve__> chorse, thanks, I'll look qemu up. :)
[11:35] <paulproteus> silent_scream: Hi? :)
[11:36] <ubuntu> which was the page, where i can paste long text?
[11:36] <silent_scream> Well paulproteus the same results
[11:36] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[11:36] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[11:36] <The_Isle_of_Mark> konstvet, lspnp
[11:36] <Jxpx> !pastebin
[11:36] <Jxpx> !es
[11:36] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:36] <Jxpx> !argentina
[11:36] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, Jxpx
[11:36] <The_Isle_of_Mark> konstvet, that is the command in ubuntu
[11:36] <nemik> this is really strange. i open imageshack.us in mozilla, and my CPU usage SPIKES to 100% and firefox is unusable. anyone else had this?
[11:37] <ubuntu> levander: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/448840
[11:37] <The_Isle_of_Mark> konstvet, did you get that?
[11:37] <rem_> does anyone know the syntax for a network printer trhough ipp on port 9100 .. ?
[11:38] <AbdulSpiegel> hi
[11:38] <konstvet> The_Isle_of_Mark: Yeah. Still - I'll just use a PCI card instaed. Less of a fuss.
[11:38] <AbdulSpiegel> Can anyone help me install this: www.zsnes.com
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> rem_,  i belive i selected the jetdirect and entered the ip#:9100
[11:38] <konstvet> The_Isle_of_Mark: Thanks anyway.
[11:38] <The_Isle_of_Mark> konstvet, yeah, most of the time it is an irq conflict
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> AbdulSpiegel,  what have ya tried so far?
[11:39] <AbdulSpiegel> well i downloaded the thign to my desktop and its like a src.tar.gz
[11:39] <AbdulSpiegel> i dont know how to get it to install
[11:39] <rem_> what printer do you have Willis ?
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> rem_,  a network enabled HP laserjet 4l
[11:39] <rem_> k thx
[11:39] <kbrooks> AbdulSpiegel, What's the full name
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> got  a little dlink printer server 'thinggie' :P for the old thing.
[11:40] <macd> AbdulSpiegel, first youll need to unpack the archive
[11:40] <kbrooks> macd, wait wait
[11:40] <kbrooks> macd, step by step
[11:40] <kbrooks> explain :P
[11:40] <_jason> AbdulSpiegel, there is a zsnes package in the repos.  I don't use it, but have you tried?
[11:40] <thechitowncubs> touchpad problems here, just stopped working for some reason, any advice?
[11:40] <AbdulSpiegel> kbrooks, zsnes142src.tar.gz
[11:40] <kbrooks> AbdulSpiegel, see _jason
[11:40] <AbdulSpiegel> _jason,  whats the repos?
[11:41] <_jason> AbdulSpiegel, in synaptic
[11:41] <_jason> !info zsnes
[11:41] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, despite that terrible nick, I'll help what type of touchpad is it?
[11:41] <AbdulSpiegel> _jason, im afraid i dont follow, i dont know what synaptic is
[11:41] <tritium> The_Isle_of_Mark, you're one to talk about nicks ;)
[11:41] <AbdulSpiegel> im new to linux
[11:41] <kbrooks> AbdulSpiegel, System > Adminstration
[11:41] <macd> has anyone seen wierd behavior in gnome; the applications menu doesnt "drop down" anymore is turns into a small box and never expands.
[11:41] <kbrooks> Synaptic is there
[11:41] <The_Isle_of_Mark> tritium this coming from a radioactive element?
[11:41] <kbrooks> macd, small box?
[11:41] <The_Isle_of_Mark> lol
[11:42] <_jason> AbdulSpiegel, It is a program where you can install thousands of programs very easily.  And it is the best way to install in ubuntu.
[11:42] <macd> want a screenshot?
[11:42] <tritium> The_Isle_of_Mark, of course.
[11:42] <macd> seriously the menu drops down, then turns into a 5px x 5px box and I cant expand it
[11:42] <AbdulSpiegel> i dont see zsnes
[11:42] <karlan> in my fresh installation of ubuntu, i never got to the point where i can choose an root password.
[11:42] <_jason> AbdulSpiegel, for zsnes, you will need to enable the multiverse repo.  Ubotu will send you information on how to do that, shortly
[11:42] <The_Isle_of_Mark> tritium, I dont think I have ever taken shots from anything on the periodic table :p
[11:42] <AbdulSpiegel> or anyother snes emulator
[11:42] <ubotu> zsnes: (Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (TM)), section multiverse/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 1.400-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 504 kB, Installed size: 3212 kB
[11:42] <_jason> ubotu, tell AbdulSpiegel about repos
[11:42] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, still there?
[11:42] <thechitowncubs> I really need some help troubleshooting my touchpad
[11:43] <macd> karlan, thats b/c Ubuntu uses SUDO
[11:43] <thechitowncubs> yes yes yes
[11:43] <karlan> macd, wanna explain more? :)
[11:43] <thechitowncubs> Its a synaptics
[11:43] <levander> ubuntu: just got back, sorry, i'll look at the paste now
[11:43] <kbrooks> AbdulSpiegel,
[11:43] <tritium> The_Isle_of_Mark, technically, isotopes aren't listed on the table
[11:43] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, what kind of touchpad, synaptics, alps, etc?
[11:43] <kbrooks> AbdulSpiegel: type ctrl + f
[11:43] <kbrooks> and then type zsnes
[11:43] <thechitowncubs> The_Isle_of_Mark, synaptics
[11:43] <kbrooks> and press enter
[11:43] <rem_> ahh I just remembered the printer is Brothe, but the network card in it is HP ... it works now with HP jet direct ! :))
[11:43] <macd> karlan, Im not sure what else I can explain, the menu doesnt drop down instead it turns into a small box
[11:43] <levander> ubuntu: you don't have separate boot and root partitions, this is correct?
[11:43] <Dr_Willis> rem_,  :P
[11:44] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, have you tried restarting x?
[11:44] <karlan> macd, well, i want to make some changes, (in this case, use apt-get in terminal) but it asks for a password
[11:44] <thechitowncubs> I rebooted
[11:44] <ubuntu> yes
[11:44] <ubuntu> its correct
[11:45] <levander> ubuntu: and according to your menu.lst, your root partition is /dev/hda3?
[11:45] <ubuntu> no
[11:45] <ubuntu> it is hda4
[11:45] <macd> karlan, ahh  then type 'sudo apt-get blahblah' the password is the same as your useraccount
[11:45] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, let me get my laptop, I have one on it..one sec
[11:45] <levander> ubuntu: well, your menu.lst is wrong then
[11:45] <pppoe_dude>  any other websites for screenshots than www.lynucs.org?
[11:45] <levander> ubuntu: let me see if I can edit that paste
[11:45] <ubuntu> oh
[11:45] <thechitowncubs> The_Isle_of_Mark, thanks
[11:46] <ubuntu> levander: i changed the menu.lst before
[11:47] <ubuntu> but after update-grub, it changed back
[11:47] <kbrooks> !info zsnes
[11:47] <karlan> macd, can i go back to just typing in a root password? not have to use sudo every time. thats not very smooth :)
[11:47] <levander> ubuntu: don't run update-grub, all it does is modify menu.lst i think, and i've noticed it does it wrong in chroot environments sometiems
[11:48] <ubotu> zsnes: (Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (TM)), section multiverse/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 1.400-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 504 kB, Installed size: 3212 kB
[11:48] <ubuntu> and after modifing?
[11:48] <macd> karlan, yes you can, the information is availabe in the ubuntu forums on howto do it, though I dont recommend it, there is no root account for a reason.
[11:48] <AbdulSpiegel> _jason, im almost done doing the respositories
[11:49] <_jason> AbdulSpiegel, ok, let me know if you have any problems finding zsnes
[11:49] <ubuntu> levander: what to do now?
[11:49] <ubuntu> i changed all hda3 with hda4
[11:49] <levander> ubuntu: change all entries in menu.lst to look like these: ubuntu.pastebin.com/448864
[11:49] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, there?
[11:49] <karlan> macd, ok, how come sudo works? isnt that a potential security risk aswell?
[11:49] <thechitowncubs> The_Isle_of_Mark, yes
[11:50] <AbdulSpiegel> _jason, i did the tutorial to do the repositories, but i still cant find zsnes
[11:50] <levander> ubuntu: grub names disks and partitions differently than the rest of linux, a grub (hd0,2) is for the rest of linux a /dev/hda3
[11:50] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, ok real quick check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and see if the synaptic driver is called for the touchpad...seems silly I know, but it is the place to start I think
[11:50] <recon0> does anyone know how to configure hardware accelleration on ubuntu?
[11:50] <levander> ubuntu: grub zero-indexes disks and partitions
[11:50] <ubuntu> ok
[11:50] <ubuntu> thx
[11:50] <_jason> AbdulSpiegel, ok, I need you to pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list please
[11:50] <_jason> !pastebin
[11:50] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[11:50] <j-linux> Has anyone used Ubuntu on PowerPC?  Specifically a powerbook?  My Toshiba laptop just died and I need a new computer.  Am thinking about a OSX/Ubuntu dual boot PowerMac...
[11:51] <karlan> thx for your help macd. nite nite :)
[11:51] <macd> karlan, sudo works by allowing your user to execute operations at a higher privilage level, but not be the root user
[11:51] <levander> ubuntu: change menu.lst, run grub-install in the chroot environment, reboot
[11:51] <brownie17> j-linux, lots of people do
[11:51] <thechitowncubs> The_Isle_of_Mark, yep its there
[11:51] <AbdulSpiegel> _jason, okay give me a sec
[11:51] <ubuntu> i changed menu.lst
[11:51] <brownie17> what the heck is with banning broken ladder!?
[11:51] <ubuntu> but grub-install wouldnt run
[11:52] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, ok good. do you have shmconfig enabled?
[11:52] <nemik> went for a wlak with my girlfriend in the forest, it just snowed last night
[11:52] <nemik> [img] http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/9505/dsc002092ia.jpg[/img] 
[11:52] <nemik> [img] http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/9293/dsc002117tt.jpg[/img] 
[11:52] <nemik> [img] http://static.flickr.com/35/70225359_c4a86f7baf.jpg[/img] 
[11:52] <j-linux> brownie17: I have a lot of work I need to get done and would prefer not to deal with serious technical hurdles... I'm hoping to find out whether it is easy or has complications...  I heard the wireless doesn't work.
[11:52] <nemik> oops
[11:52] <ubuntu> levander: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/448867
[11:52] <confrey> The_Isle_of_Mark, I tried with wifi-radar, I connect to ap, but I have the network unreachble
[11:52] <tritium> nemik, don't do that please
[11:52] <nemik> this is really strange. i open imageshack.us in mozilla, and my CPU usage SPIKES to 100% and firefox is unusable. anyone else had this?
[11:52] <thechitowncubs> The_Isle_of_Mark, I don't konw what tha tis
[11:52] <robotgeek> j-linux: the airport extreme card doesn't work
[11:53] <nemik> tritium: sorry had an old thing in clipboard
[11:53] <The_Isle_of_Mark> confrey check your ip info with sudo ifconfig wlan0
[11:53] <AbdulSpiegel> _jason, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5395
[11:53] <brownie17> j-linux, i beleive "madpilot" uses PPC, ask him. don't know if he is here now.
[11:53] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, ok we can enable it
[11:53] <xored> can i mount a NTFS partion writeable ?
[11:53] <thechitowncubs> ok
[11:53] <j-linux> I have my own wireless card that I can hopefully plug in, but does anyone know of any other issues?  I can run Gimp, Quanta, evolution, OOo with no problems?
[11:53] <robotgeek> j-linux: yes, no problems at all
[11:53] <brownie17> Madpilot, j-linux has a question
[11:54] <korhalf> xored, no, and the support to do so is buggy
[11:54] <ubuntu> levander: no more ideas? :(
[11:54] <confrey> The_Isle_of_Mark, I have a problem : I have a eth0 too; what ip can I use in wifi-radar configuration?
[11:54] <recon0> does anyone know how to configure hardware 3D acceleration?
[11:54] <xored> korhalf:
[11:54] <xored> ok
[11:54] <chorse> recon0, nvidia or ati?
[11:54] <The_Isle_of_Mark> confrey sudo ifconfig eth0 down
[11:54] <The_Isle_of_Mark> confrey then try it
[11:54] <confrey> I have to use eth0, because IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII haven't irc!
[11:55] <recon0> chorse, nvidia
[11:55] <j-linux> On a PowerBook would WINE work just like on Windows?  Crossover office?  Can I run MS Office 2003 (e.g., access) if I need to on a power pc
[11:55] <robotgeek> confrey: please don'y do that
[11:55] <mwe> !nvidia
[11:55] <ubotu> methinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[11:55] <spikebike> j-linux no
[11:55] <confrey> I have already tried it...
[11:55] <tritium> no, j-linux
[11:55] <robotgeek> j-linux: hmm, i have never tried wine.
[11:55] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, do a sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.old
[11:55] <chorse> recon0, install nvidia-glx
[11:55] <kaz> what do I use to listen to shoutcast feeds?
[11:55] <logical_mark> Hey guys, how can I get VNC viewer to fit the remote desktop to the screen?
[11:55] <recon0> ok
[11:55] <robotgeek> j-linux: but mostly not, i guess
[11:55] <Madpilot> brownie17: hmm? sorry, I was in another channel, and AFK too
[11:56] <amparo_pzzi> to join two files .avi ????????????
[11:56] <kaz> I guess there isn't a coolplayer port
[11:56] <confrey> robotgeek, my keyboard is crazy when I'm using pcmcia wifi
[11:56] <chorse> recon0, to enable the driver, run "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[11:56] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, to make a backup just in case
[11:56] <opnsrc> I recently installed Kde and I can't figure out how to configure the fonts
[11:56] <robotgeek> confrey: hmm, okay
[11:56] <thechitowncubs> The_Isle_of_Mark, alright
[11:56] <opnsrc> they're so small
[11:56] <_jason> AbdulSpiegel, We are going to add multiverse manually.  First close synaptic.  Now open a terminal and type "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list".  I need you to add the word " multiverse" to the end of lines 19,20, 25, and 26.  Then save the changes.  Open synaptic and press "reload".  Try the search again.
[11:56] <j-linux> spikebike: it wont run wine on a powerpc?
[11:56] <amparo_pzzi> to join two files .avi ????????????
[11:56] <opnsrc> I configured the resolution but what about the fonts
[11:56] <brownie17> j-linux, talk to madpilot, ask him your problems
[11:56] <levander> this channel has gotten so busy, has anybody thought about splitting it up into ubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-sysadmin?? or something like that, just something that one has to do with all these wierd applications people try, and another that just has to do with configuring the old server type software and getting hardware
[11:56] <spikebike> j-linux no, wine is a windows emulator, but it depends on IA32
[11:56] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add this:
[11:56] <levander> hardware to work**
[11:56] <brownie17> "Well, it's a marvelous night for a Moondance"
[11:57] <chorse> recon0, afterwards you may want to add Option "RenderAccel" "true" in the xorg.conf device section
[11:57] <recon0> chorse, thankz
[11:57] <spikebike> you'd need to run a IA32 emulator and then run wine on the emulator
[11:57] <The_Isle_of_Mark> Option "SHMConfig" "true" under the input device section where synaptics is called, understand?
[11:57] <j-linux> spikebike: arrggg... I guess I can't get a powerpc then.  I was hoping to abandon Windows completely...
[11:57] <Mabus06> How come my Doom 3 no longer plays sound, and when it closes, it makes the screen large?
[11:57] <j-linux> (except for when I need to make a project for someone else)
[11:57] <chorse> recon0, renderaccel speeds up the non-3d stuff a little
[11:57] <thechitowncubs> The_Isle_of_Mark, understood
[11:57] <recon0> ok
[11:57] <_jason> AbdulSpiegel, what's up? talk here don't dcc me please
[11:57] <levander> ubuntu: you ran grub-install in a chroot environment off the livecd after making those changes?
[11:58] <spikebike> j-linux powerbooks will likely be sold with intel in jan
[11:58] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, do that in that section a line above end section
[11:58] <levander> ubuntu: sorry I keep missing stuff, this channel is just so busy
[11:58] <ubuntu> yes
[11:58] <ubuntu> i did
[11:58] <j-linux> spikebike: my computer just died.  I am a week behind on my work :S
[11:58] <kaz> what do I use to listen to shoutcast streams?
[11:58] <thechitowncubs> The_Isle_of_Mark, done
[11:58] <ubuntu> mkdir /mnt/ubuntu
[11:58] <AbdulSpiegel> _jason, my bad i thought it would make things easier, no prob tho
[11:58] <ubuntu> mount /dev/hda4 /mnt/ubuntu/
[11:58] <j-linux> spikebike: what is an IA32 emulator?  Something for Mac?
[11:58] <ubuntu> mount -o bind /proc /mnt/ubuntu/proc/
[11:58] <recon0> chorse, where is xorg.conf?
[11:58] <ubuntu> chroot /mnt/ubuntu/ /bin/bash
[11:59] <brownie17> Mabus06, you mean changes the resolution
[11:59] <spikebike> j-linux I'd suggest a thinkpad then
[11:59] <djk_> Which ati drivers are recommended? The ones from the repo or the ones directly from ati?
[11:59] <Rockett18> kaz> beep-media-player or xmms would work great for those
[11:59] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, then restart x
[11:59] <ubuntu> vi /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:59] <ubuntu> grub-install /dev/hda
[11:59] <kaz> thanks...  rythym player isn't working right
[11:59] <ubuntu> >The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[11:59] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, when you get back we'll go over a couple utilities
[11:59] <brownie17> Mabus06, maybe because it is crashing, and ot change he resolution back to what it should be like it would if it closed normally
[11:59] <opnsrc> How do I make fonts bigger?
[11:59] <j-linux> spikebike:  that might be a good idea.  I wonder if I can find a store that sells one here... (honolulu doesn't always have the widest slection)
[11:59] <opnsrc> under KDE
[11:59] <Rockett18> kaz> do you have the w32codecs?
[11:59] <levander> ubuntu: i don't know what that /bin/bash is for on the end of the chroot command, and i don't think you need that 'mount -o bind' command, but i don't think they should have hurt either
[11:59] <chorse> recon0, /etc/X11/xorg.conf, you need root privs to edit the file
[11:59] <amparo_pzzi> to join two files .avi ????????????
[11:59] <recon0> ok
[12:00] <spikebike> j-linux or mailorder and have it sent by air tomorrow