=== thomas_ [n=thomas@26.101.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu [12:22] greets [12:22] anyone here ? I just installed this distro for the kids and I have some questions [12:23] ask [12:23] i see that moodle is supposed to be installed by default. here do i find it ? [12:23] wher do i find it ? [12:24] it isnt, the system is prepared for it, moodle is in universe, install it with synaptic [12:24] it had a bug that prevented it from entering the CD [12:24] (but it will enter the next release in the default install) [12:25] did you read http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuInstallNotes ? [12:25] nope. this is my fist graphical linux. always run command only [12:25] whats synaptic ? [12:25] its in the System->Administration menu [12:26] your package management [12:26] ah [12:26] gui to apt-get ? [12:26] i want to make this as easy as posible. i want to break the kids from $MS before it's too late [12:28] use synaptic, enable the universe repository and install moodle with a doubleclick (http://wiki.edubuntu.org/SynapticHowto) [12:28] hrm === ogra is off for the night === jclinton [n=jclinton@pdpc/supporter/student/jclinton] has joined #edubuntu [12:33] hi all [12:33] how do i lock down the edubuntu desktop? === mparise [n=eliana@dsl-69-60-238-21.unitz.ca] has joined #edubuntu [12:51] does anyone have a good howto on setting up thinclients? My server is up and running === ealden [n=ealden@219.90.94.124] has joined #edubuntu [01:02] will we see a ppc version of edubuntu soon? === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-133-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === thomas_ [n=thomas@26.101.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu [01:42] euthydemus, server or client? [01:43] mparise, did you check the wiki === ealden [n=ealden@219.90.94.124] has joined #edubuntu [01:54] spacey, i did [01:54] maybe i missed it [01:55] i've reading the wiki all afternoon though [01:59] hmm ok [02:00] you have some specific questions? [02:00] anyway i really have to go to sleep now, [02:00] goodnight [02:00] i'll be here tomorrow === hoochymama [n=hoochyma@c-67-182-101-216.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === eLFanTasma [n=ircap8@201.124.60.68] has joined #edubuntu === DanC_lap [n=connolly@c-24-128-48-127.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:53] hi you all === DanC_lap [n=connolly@c-24-128-48-127.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === CAP8271 [n=ircap8@201.124.60.68] has joined #edubuntu === toothpick [n=toothpic@pcp01993813pcs.plsntv01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:26] What is the name of the grading software? === toothpick [n=toothpic@pcp01993813pcs.plsntv01.nj.comcast.net] has left #edubuntu ["Konversation] === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #edubuntu === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@220.224.35.150] has joined #edubuntu [06:46] hey all === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu === hoochymama [n=hoochyma@c-67-182-101-216.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #edubuntu === pitux [n=pitux@241-188-222-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.240.163.143] has joined #edubuntu === mwest [n=mwest@tsl.uct.ac.za] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === guim [n=glederer@104.241-200-80.adsl-fix.skynet.be] has joined #edubuntu === blue-frog [n=james@81.56.254.229] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu [11:01] could someone please reply to the slashdot thing and mention LTSp, they all seem to have missed that, and think it's *just* a different desktop package... [11:26] highvoltage: PING [11:27] highvoltage: since when are you on a personal e-mailing basis with Linus!? ;) === JaneW is suitably impressed [11:32] JaneW: very>>>busy/\/\/-and()distracted**PONG*** [11:32] JaneW: just got your email with the bmp's (ouch!) [11:32] JaneW: not quite what we're looking for ;) [11:33] highvoltage: nod, not sure what to do with that, and too busy to think about it atm... [11:33] JaneW: linus is cool, hey? i think it's nice that he want to contribute directly to edubuntu [11:33] highvoltage: sure, I agree, I hope ogra likes the tool [11:33] JaneW: don't worry, i'll reply to the bmp guy tomorroe [11:33] JaneW: i think it's likely that ogra will rewrite it in python :) [11:33] Linus was very self-deprecating baout the tool though ;) [11:34] i think on some level, he *wants* ogra to rewrite it in python ;) [11:34] linus said that if we had such a tool in edubuntu, he'd install it on his computer for his daughter. [11:34] now, that would be real cool, if Linus ran edubuntu. === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu [11:35] huh ? [11:35] hehe [11:35] i'm going to push him to do that, we can get that slashdotted too ;) [11:35] hi ogra :) [11:36] erm, what did i miss ? linus sent a tool to slashdot ? === ogra didnt follow the thread since yesterday morning [11:37] highvoltage: indeed [11:37] ogra: i think i forwarded to you privately? [11:37] ogra: i'll send it again [11:37] ogra: see mail from highvoltage [11:37] highvoltage, you mean the tracker tool ? [11:37] re tracker tool [11:37] yes [11:37] ah [11:38] LOL [11:38] i didnt notice at all from whom it was [11:38] yes [11:38] :-D [11:38] hehe :) [11:38] sorry, just send it again. === JaneW too at first... [11:38] ogra: care to show it? :) [11:38] i have looked at the code and was just impressed by the cleaness :) [11:38] heh [11:38] ogra: good to hear it === highvoltage looked at the code and was confused by it [11:39] i'm thinking about how to integrate it into s-c-p [11:39] forward it to your boss ;) [11:39] does RMS have kids? [11:39] so we can show the data directly aside the userlist :) [11:39] ogra: good idea [11:40] highvoltage: I like the way you think... [11:40] ok, prioritized now *g* [11:40] heh [11:40] highvoltage: RMS? can you imagine what his kids would turn out like? [11:40] ogra: thank you [11:40] erm... big grin :) [11:40] hehe [11:40] picture the edubuntu packaging 'Edubuntu - as used by Linus Torvald's children' [11:40] ajmitch_: they'll be born with beards [11:41] I appreciate many of RMS' views, but he's still a nutter [11:41] JaneW: lol! [11:41] RMS is cool. i support him 100% [11:41] highvoltage: sure, but he's still nuts ;) [11:41] ajmitch_: so am i, and ~ 8 billion other people ;) === ajmitch_ spotted photos of ogra starting to grow his RMS beard ;) [11:44] http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/edubuntu/tracker.tar.gz [11:44] for the intrested ones ^^^ [11:45] highvoltage: 8 Billion? [11:45] ogra, morning [11:45] moin juliux [11:45] ogra, in the next days markus krger will contact you, he will hack on the ltspmanager [11:45] yay [11:46] ogra, in which language is the ltspmanager written? [11:46] the worst part (dhcp handling) parsing the lts.conf should be straight forward [11:46] highvoltage: According to estimates published by the United States Census Bureau, the world population in June 2005 was ~6,450,000,000 [11:46] python [11:46] highvoltage: so don't exagerate :P [11:46] juliux, all tools i write from scratch are python/gtk [11:46] ogra, ok [11:46] ogra, i know there some gnome. [11:46] gnome-de people who have a lot of time [11:47] highvoltage: unless you are counting the ppl with multiple personalities ;) [11:47] ogra, sorry i have to go to university, i have a examen [11:47] we should also find some python-qt people to hack up a kde version ... there is some community interest for a kedubuntu [11:47] JaneW: ok ;) [11:47] juliux, good luck [11:48] ogra, thanks === t3r0 [n=t3r0@nuclease102.gprs.dnafinland.fi] has joined #edubuntu === JaneW [n=JaneW@dsl-165-120-130.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === bluefrog-10 [n=james@81.56.254.229] has joined #edubuntu === chaiz [n=chaiz@gb.jb.102.211.revip.asianet.co.th] has joined #edubuntu === zakame [n=zak@210.5.89.111] has joined #edubuntu === Xamusk [n=yyyy@201009172048.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #edubuntu [01:37] anyone here used ubuntu as an ltsp server/client? [01:38] Xamusk: nearly everyone does .... edubuntu is built around it ;) [01:38] good, then maybe someone can help me :) [01:38] ask away [01:39] although I'm using ubuntu [01:39] the implementation is the same [01:40] in client boot-time, something is renaming my xorg.conf to xorg.conf.YYYYMMDDHHmm, and replacing it with another xorg.conf... it looks like it's ignoring lts.conf, so my mouse won't work (the xorg.conf that appears is configured with a PS2 mouse) [01:40] heya all :) [01:41] Xamusk, do you use a ps2 mouse ? [01:41] some people have issues with the module not being loaded [01:43] ogra, in the server, but a serial mouse in the client... I've modified the client /etc/modules to include sermouse (and it loads, as seen on lsmod) [01:43] however, in one of the messages in boot-time, it says something like "Loading /dev/psaux common for all mice" [01:43] hmm, serial mice are a small problem we still have to solve ... the xorg setup is based on autodetection on boot of the thin client (as you noted already) [01:44] yeah [01:44] the lts.conf doesnt support all classic ltsp setiings yet [01:44] and mdetect somehow detects both /dev/psaux and /dev/ttyS0, but gives psaux priority [01:44] http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuLtsConfParams [01:44] see there [01:45] ogra, http://pastebin.com/449460 this is my lts.conf [01:45] as you can see, I've tried _many_ ways to get the mouse pointed to /dev/ttyS0 [01:46] yup, but the ltsp implementation doesnt read it yet === pirast [n=pirast@p508B0CF5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #edubuntu [01:47] ah, so it's a ltsp problem... :-( [01:47] is it ubuntu-specific or generic to all ltsp implementations? [01:47] its an age problem ;) our ltsp in breezy is very young ... there is a patch ... [01:47] its solved (untested) in dapper [01:48] let me look if i can find it in my bzr branch === Xamusk trembles to think about reinstalling all his server... [01:51] impelemtation...? [01:58] hah, got it [01:58] http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5418 [01:59] add the lines with the + in front to /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/init.d/ltsp-client-setup [02:00] and omit the X_COLOR_DEPTH one, it wont work with breezy [02:00] ok [02:00] that should work ... [02:02] should I put it _after_ the "fi"? [02:03] I'm not very used to diffs and patches [02:03] yes, after the fi [02:04] thanks, I'll boot the client [02:04] yup, tra it :) [02:04] *try [02:10] didn't work [02:11] can you log in on the client at the console ? [02:11] ogra, yes [02:11] whats in your xorg.conf ? [02:11] didnt it catch up the setting ? [02:12] the mouse is pointing to /dev/input/mice [02:12] hrm .... === lucasvo [n=lucasvo@www.wservices.ch] has joined #edubuntu [02:12] nope [02:13] can you paster the /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/init.d/ltsp-client-setup from the server ? [02:14] yes [02:15] http://pastebin.com/449501 [02:16] in boot, looks like the lines gave me six lines of output, 3 sets of 2 lines saying "0 value set \n 0 true" [02:17] the additions are in lines 123-126 [02:18] hmm ... [02:19] the patch looks good ... [02:19] try to wipe the lts.conf and leave only the options you just added (plus the SERVER if its not the one you boot from) [02:19] and only the DEFAULT section [02:20] USE_XFS, LOCAL_APPS and X_MOUSE_RESOLUTION isnt supported and XSERVER is auto by default anyway [02:21] probably you must use "" around Y for X_MOUSE_EMULATE3BTN too [02:22] the getltsconf is very strict about the format afaik [02:22] hmmm [02:22] I didn't use because the examples I found didn't use too, but if you're saying that ubuntu isn't using the latest version of ltsp, then that could not apply [02:23] ok, booting again [02:23] evening all [02:24] Xamusk, ubuntu *is* the latest version of ltsp ... its newer than the one from ltsp.org ;) [02:24] thats why it doesnt support all options yet ;) [02:24] heh [02:25] docs written first ogra ? then the new implantation started :) [02:28] o_O [02:28] brb [02:29] strange [02:30] it says it couldn't find sermouse.ko (that I specified in lts.conf) [02:30] brb .oO(/me wonders why both his kids are night owls, and have chosen this exact moment to call for attention) [02:30] Xamusk, show me your new lts.conf === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [02:33] ogra, http://pastebin.com/449515 [02:33] i'm pretty sure you need to omit the .ko ending btw [02:33] drop the s41 and s4 sections too... doesnt look like you'll need them ... [02:34] hi guys [02:34] hey jsgotangco [02:34] ogra, well... I think it doesn't matter that much, as the sermouse module is being loaded, according to lsmod [02:34] hey ogra how are you? [02:34] jsgotangco, fine ... [02:34] jsgotangco, linus made his first contribution to edubuntu on the weekend ;) [02:35] huh, I forgot that [02:35] so he can use it for his daughter [02:35] oh? what did he do? === jsgotangco was out of the country over the weekend [02:36] a little c tool that logs out a specified user after a certain amount of time [02:37] i'm about to write a pygtk gui for it and a little panel applet that pops into the notification area [02:37] wow [02:38] so he actually installed it that's awesome.... [02:39] JaneW already asked for user feedback from hime ;) [02:39] -e [02:40] wonder if he's subscribed to the list [02:40] i got in contact with the release manager of firefox [02:40] very energetic guy [02:42] he isnt, i'd have noticed that :) [02:42] ahhh [02:42] it would be nice to have him on the next edubuntu summit =) [02:42] but i didnt notice the tool was from him, so i'm probably to blind ... [02:43] highvoltage forwarded linus mail to me ... and i just looked suspicious over the code ... i realized that is was from linus when he told me today and i looked at it again *g* [02:44] heh [02:44] i was already impressed by the cleaness of the code :) [02:44] congratulations ogra, you're making tsunamis not waves already =) [02:45] hehe .... [02:45] yes, i'm pretty proud about that ... [02:45] yes, you should be :) [02:45] my seoul trip was awesome as well [02:46] ogra: w00t [02:47] i had a edubuntu workshop and a talk on the weekend ... there was much interest [02:48] ogra, it was my first time speaking in a conference with a translator... [02:48] it was interesting... [02:48] even our roundtable was translated real time [02:49] wow [02:49] sure at the start the translators verified keywords like what is "edubuntu", "Dapper", etc.. [02:49] wow, a la UN :) [02:49] hehe [02:49] zakame, yeah with the audience in those ear thingies [02:50] ogra, no advancement so far [02:50] :( [02:50] asa gave me a spool of firefox stickers heh [02:50] and erich (xandros) gave me 3 boxes of their product [02:50] ooh [02:51] re [02:52] Xamusk, sorry i'm out of ideas ... :/ [02:53] the only thing I have left is to learn sed and make a script that changes xorg.conf _after_ it's overwritten by the init scripts [02:53] os download the dapper isos [02:53] or [02:53] you could supply a complete xorg.conf [02:53] how? I tried but no success [02:53] i havent tested dapper with serial mice yet ... [02:53] (i lack HW here ...) [02:56] oh, I have a lot of OLD computers... that's why I want ltsp... the computers are so old that, even having HDs, they are too slow to run OpenOffice === Yagisan hasn't used serial mice in years, not even on my p2/233 or K6 boxes [02:58] Xamusk: a relatively cheap hardware solution is a pci usb card if no usb, and a usb mouse [02:58] er is there a plan to have live cds for edubuntu? ulinskie was asking it earlier to me... [02:58] Xamusk, comment out the "dpkg-reconfigure -fnoninteractive -pcritical $xserver_package" [02:59] ... line in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/init.d/ltsp-client-setup [02:59] zakame: I was asked that too yesterday several times [02:59] then your xorg.conf in the chroot will be used ... [02:59] zakame: IIRC yes there are plans, but currently it doesn't fit [03:00] Yagisan: i see, thanks :) [03:00] Xamusk, but make sure th exorgconf in the chroot is right first [03:01] ogra, ok [03:01] zakame: considering how big it is, I'd suggest a live dvd (those 650MB cds are tiny) === lucasvo [n=lucasvo@www.wservices.ch] has joined #edubuntu [03:01] normally the XF86CONFIG_FILE parameter in lts.conf should work as well [03:02] ogra, yes, it _should_ [03:02] Yagisan: hehe, indeed... though dvds aren't common yet in my locale :/ [03:02] but i'm not sure it applies if xorg is used ... thats rather for xfree86 setups === lucasvo [n=lucasvo@www.wservices.ch] has joined #edubuntu [03:02] but it didn't when I tried... [03:02] indeed [03:02] did yu set it in colons ? [03:02] yes [03:03] zakame: I wonder if it would fit on a 700MB or 800MB cd ? [03:03] if [ -n "$XF86CONFIG_FILE" ] ; then [03:03] # User has specified a custom config [03:03] cp "$XF86CONFIG_FILE" "$xserver_config" [03:03] hmm, the code indicates that it should be used in any case [03:04] where did you store the file ? [03:04] it must be in the chroot [03:04] the client doesnt see the server filesystem ... === pirast [n=pirast@p508B0CF5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #edubuntu [03:04] ogra, I just typed XF86CONFIG_FILE = "xorg.conf" [03:04] Yagisan: hm depends on what we'd like to fit in it :) [03:04] Xamusk, you'll need a path, relative to the chroot ... [03:05] ogra, actually I read somewhere that the path is relative to /etc/X11/ in the chroot [03:05] i.e. /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/my_xorg.conf becomes XF86CONFIG_FILE = "etc/my_xorg.conf" [03:05] err [03:05] XF86CONFIG_FILE = "/etc/my_xorg.conf" [03:06] nope it isnt ... according to th code above [03:06] oops [03:06] I read it wrongly [03:06] its just a cp ... and drops all autodetection === blue-frog [n=james@81.56.254.229] has joined #edubuntu [03:08] ok, trying again [03:08] I wish I could read code that easy [03:09] ogra, following the advise you gave me after having alook at my toolbox script I am trying to correct it. One thing though I don't understand. How should conf files (smb, ldap..) should be touched pls? [03:09] blue-frog, not at all ... [03:10] all the tools you use there are packaged in ubuntu, the right way woul be to have a debconf option in the package to create at specified config [03:11] ah ty can't do it then... [03:12] what would a lot of "NETDEV WATCHDOG" messages mean... it says "transmit timed out", but in the next line it says that eth0 link is up [03:12] hmm, sounds like a NIC driver issue [03:12] Xamusk: tends to indocate ACPI errors [03:12] hmmm [03:12] s/indocate/indicate === Yagisan speaks from experience [03:13] acpi... don't know if a pc that old has acpi... maybe something is loading (incorrectly) the acpi drivers [03:13] Xamusk: pass "acpi=off pci=noacpi" to the kernel boot paramters for the old box [03:14] Xamusk: old boxes (like mine) often have enough acpi to make eg Win98 happy, but it is broken [03:14] append it in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/pxelinux.cfg/default to the kernel line [03:15] ok [03:15] ogra: can we do that on a per box config ? [03:16] Yagisan, yes [03:16] Yagisan, the pxelinux tries to load a lot of files before falling down to default [03:16] Yagisan, not to my knowledge ... (patched gratefully accepted indeed ;) ) === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.240.163.143] has joined #edubuntu [03:16] Xamusk: thanks, just wanted to double check [03:17] Yagisan, when loading in the client, it says which file it's tring to get (putting the MAC in the filename may do it) [03:19] ugh... that's what happens when one try to manual-edit too much in xorg.conf [03:19] where's the xf86cfg in a case like this [03:20] Xamusk, just remove the line again, let it autogenerate and scp the file from the console to the server ... [03:20] then edit the mouse settings [03:22] ogra, hehehe... too troublesome... I'll try to tweak it again... That's just because I tried some generic options and changed some names [03:22] too troublesome ? i guess thats the easiest way :) [03:25] but the best part is: the correct xorg.conf is there [03:26] the problem seems to be in the Screen section... I changed the Device name in only one place [03:28] ah [03:28] 4 minutes to boot a client is the true slow part [03:28] Xamusk: 4!! I take 2~3 on my p2/233 [03:29] yeah :( [03:29] Xamusk: what is your box ? (congested network ?) [03:29] it looks like there are a lot of misconfigs [03:29] not really... I think [03:29] but maybe then it is [03:30] though this box is better than the previous I was testing, that took almost 8 minutes [03:30] woah ... === Yagisan notes dappers ltsp is still at 0.59 [03:30] thats heavy [03:30] yup, mdz does the updates of the package ... [03:30] he had no time to inspect all my patches yet [03:31] should be updated during this week [03:31] at least he told me he would look over the patches during the week [03:31] Xamusk: Are you on a co-ax based network, or slower ? (PLIP :-P) [03:31] ogra: I though he was handing that over to you ? === Katsumoto [n=teraflop@bbned225-210-100.dsl.hccnet.nl] has joined #edubuntu [03:32] Xamusk, its one of my main goals for dapper to get the booting donw to less than a minute ... [03:32] Yagisan, he can give his baby away it seems ... [03:32] *cant [03:32] Yagisan, on a what? [03:32] note: I'm not a pro admin [03:33] Xamusk: Co-axial cable (was that called 10base2 ? looks like tv cable) [03:33] do you have multiple cables you plug into a switch ? or just one cable that runs past all te PCs ? [03:34] Xamusk: haven't used it in 7 years or so, but it was pretty slow (rather prone to rfi interference and collisions) [03:34] Yagisan, I thought those were fast (if not with a lot of sequential hosts)... but no, I'm in a plain ethernet... only don't know if the the client card is 10 or 100 mbps [03:34] ogra, hehehe... not _that_ anti-pro admin [03:35] ogra, just didn't understand the term [03:37] ogra, THANK YOU A LOT for making this work [03:37] i have the bootime down to 1 min in dapper currently ... but thats with this client : http://www.disklessworkstations.com/cgi-bin/web/200014.html?id=AowNeHn7 [03:37] see you guys later i still feel a bit dazed [03:37] ciao jsgotangco [03:38] now I have 20 mins before lunch to see how long OO.o takes to launch [03:38] Xamusk, youre welcome ,i learned a lot during supporting you ;) [03:38] i.e. we have to revisit the serial mouse thingie ;) [03:39] I have leaned a lot too... (didn't know about the ltsp-client-setup file) [03:40] that preseed syntax looks a lot like the preseed files I had to use when I remastered a debian cd [03:40] yes, its the same [03:40] i have to find out why the mouse settings dont get respected ... [03:40] only it's a lot more powerful [03:40] ogra: If you'd like to send me one of those, I'll just get my address details for you :-P [03:40] but first i have to get a working X server at all ... doent work in dapper yet [03:41] ogra, as you said before, they are not implemented yet [03:41] Yagisan, i only have the one ... donated from jim mc quillian (the inventor of ltsp) [03:42] Xamusk, they should work ... thats what bothers me ... there must be a prob in xorg itself [03:42] ogra: thought so - that's his company right ? [03:42] yup [03:43] i still have to make my list forcanonical, they will pay for another bunch, so i can test at least all the machines http://www.disklessworkstations.com offers === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu [03:43] ogra: what you need for testing is something old and decrepit, with busted acpi and other interesting features :) [03:44] yes, i have a pI 133 here for etherboot testing, but havent tested yet ... [03:44] ogra: So, got any spare 486s or Pentium 1s ? [03:44] and another PII 233 [03:44] no 486 anymore though ... [03:44] but since we say the minimum requirement is a PCI bus, i doubt i'll care for 486 [03:45] they only had PCI in the last quater of their lifecycle === Yagisan broke my 486 transferring it to a new case, I cracked a diode (my 486 had a pci bus, with a 4MB S3 Virge/DX video card) [03:46] wow! 4MB! [03:46] when I had a 486 it only had a 1MB Trident [03:46] phew ... that gives small scrensizes :) [03:46] *screen [03:47] hehehe [03:47] I remember (in that time I used rwindows) that it pained in that place only to find a video driver that would get 256 colors [03:47] Xamusk: I was hunting for some voodoo 2's for the board before it broke - that would have been nice === vmarks [n=vmarks@adsl-065-015-231-005.sip.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:48] I kept that box going for years, usb upgrades, disk upgrades [03:48] well... In my country, I haven't seen PCI-E boards yet [03:48] i know some brazilians using pci-e [03:48] but comercially in their companys ... [03:49] well... those must have been imported in quite a high price [03:49] by the way, how do you know I'm brazillian [03:49] ? [03:50] http://www.async.com.br/ [03:50] your ip tells me ;) [03:50] hehehehe [03:50] thought that the second after [04:09] thank you again guys, I gotta leave now... if I have an update in my status, I'll let you know === pc22 [n=arik@222.126.13.162] has joined #edubuntu === zakame_ [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #edubuntu === zakame_ is now known as zakame === pirast [n=pirast@p508B0CF5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #edubuntu === sven-tek [n=sven-tek@p508E76F8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:48] how should i mount users homedirectories, localted in win2003 dc. i want to separate linux and windows homedirectories because it's ugly when user browses own homedir from windows's "my documents" and there are .bashrc etc [04:48] i mean, pam_mount or how? [05:00] night all [05:00] me too, gudnyt Yagisan ! :D [05:01] re === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-201-251.tpgi.com.au] has left #edubuntu [] === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:08] hi all [05:09] ogra: hi, mon. how are you doing? [05:09] fine, thanks ... [05:09] ogra: as I rm -rf my /home a couple of weeks ago, I lost my gpg stuff. [05:10] and you dont have a backup ? [05:10] Is it just a matter of resigning the Code? [05:10]