[12:03] <QMario> When I modprobe ndiswrapper, I get this error: 
[12:03] <QMario> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[12:03] <hugelmopf> QMario: "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"?
[12:03] <QMario> Same error.
[12:05] <QMario> What is wrong with the modprobe?
[12:05] <QMario> Should I install Breezy?
[12:05] <djk_> Mardle: mesa respons?
[12:07] <QMario> Hello?
[12:07] <hugelmopf> QMario: any info in "dmesg"?
[12:07] <QMario> Anyone here?
[12:07] <QMario> ndiswrapper (wrapper_init:1494): loadndiswrapper failed (11); check system log for messages from 'loadndisdriver'
[12:08] <hugelmopf> QMario: I don't have any experience with ndiswrapper, so I am lost there. sorry.
[12:09] <th3l4sts4mur41> !dvd
[12:09] <ubotu> [dvd]  "DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available on http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl   See also !libdvdcss2"
[12:09] <th3l4sts4mur41> !libdvdcss2
[12:09] <ubotu> libdvdcss2 is, like, totally, to enable DVD playback, read and use this local file for libdvdcss2 /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh   Don't have this file? Install "libdvdread3"
[12:12] <amran> !libdvdcss2
[12:12] <ubotu> libdvdcss2 is, like, to enable DVD playback, read and use this local file for libdvdcss2 /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh   Don't have this file? Install "libdvdread3"
[12:20] <QMario> Is Breezy out for KDE yet?
[12:21] <QMario> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list</body>
[12:21] <QMario> Is Breezy out for KUbuntu yet?
[12:22] <sambagirl> no
[12:22] <sambagirl> but kubuntu is out for breezy
[12:22] <sambagirl> if i understand this stuff right.
[12:22] <sambagirl> breezy is like hoary
[12:22] <robotgeek> :)
[12:22] <sambagirl> kde is like gnome
[12:22] <sambagirl> this kde and gnome sit on top of breezy and hoary
[12:22] <sambagirl> soft of like SCO ODT sits on top of unix
[12:23] <sambagirl> right?
[12:23] <robotgeek> sambagirl: isn't sco dead yet?
[12:24] <sambagirl> maybe for some people, infact Amiga might even be dead for some people yet it is still a real system and is constantly being redefined. Some people think Mac is dead now that they are flriting with Intel. 
[12:25] <QMario> What "kubuntu is out for breezy"?
[12:25] <QMario> What does that mean?
[12:25] <sambagirl> it means that Kubuntu is like whip cream on top of something see?
[12:25] <sambagirl> think of breezy being hot chocolate and kubuntu being whip cream on top of hot chocolate
[12:26] <sambagirl> comprende?
[12:26] <robotgeek> sambagirl: i am on ppc :)
[12:26] <djk_> QMario: that kubuntu breezy has been released perhaps?
[12:26] <sambagirl> ok well Amigaone is PPC, so in theory Ubuntu PPC version should work seamlessly on AMIGAONE, no?
[12:26] <QMario> The real version?
[12:27] <QMario> How do I get it?
[12:27] <QMario> !Breezy
[12:27] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[12:27] <djk_> QMario: no, they faked it..
[12:27] <QMario> !Kubuntu
[12:27] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, not a fork ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[12:27] <djk_> QMario: by either dist-upgrading or by downloading the cd-images..
[12:28] <sambagirl> Qmario this is all speculations on my part, i am making theories on this, ok? These are my best guess-ta-ments
[12:28] <djk_> sambagirl: you had coffee?
[12:29] <sambagirl> belgiun something yes
[12:30] <sambagirl> djk was i accurate in my theories?
[12:30] <sambagirl> or totally bouncing off the floor?
[12:31] <slow-motion> n8
[12:32] <neoncode> is their a way to re-build firefox to use the KDE Konqoueror instead of the GNOME file browser. it's realy anoying me. I hate that thing...
[12:32] <djk_> sambagirl: erh..close.. i did not get the whole chocolate thing but nevermind..
[12:34] <sambagirl> if you think of ubuntu as being hot chocolate, you can think of kubuntu or gnome as being the whip cream to sweeten the hot chocolate or to intensify the experience, see?
[12:39] <Deviant17m> Hey!!!!!!!!!!
[12:42] <Deviant17m> eehh i downloaded the kubuntu cd online, but when i am instaling i get the error message that couldnt install Kernel 386, cuase it might be corrupted, how can i fix this?? without having to download the CD again, or how do i check the msd5??
[12:42] <neoncode> Hey, can kopete transfer files in AIM?
[12:43] <th3l4sts4mur41> !kopete
[12:43] <ubotu> Kopete is the KDE IM, supporting AIM, ICQ, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber, IRC, Gadu-Gadu, Novell GroupWise Messenger, and more. See http://kopete.kde.org
[12:43] <neoncode> so can it?
[12:44] <neoncode> Oooo
[12:45] <hunika> GOOD NIGHT TO EVERYBODY (01:45 ROMANIA OFFLINE)
[12:58] <khalif> Hello to all!
[01:03] <khalif> Hello to all! :)
[01:04] <khalif> I was wondering if someone could offer a little assistance?
[01:05] <khalif> I'm a noob to 'nix/KDE and I'm trying to install some icons...
[01:06] <bam_> morning
[01:07] <bam_> where is the location of the themes folder
[01:07] <bam_> seems my theme mgr doesnt wanna install themes from kde-look.org
[01:08] <QMario> !WUSB11
[01:08] <ubotu> QMario: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[01:08] <QMario> NO
[01:08] <QMario> How do I use my Wireless USB Adapter?
[01:08] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell QMario about wireless
[01:08] <QMario> sudo modprobe ndiswrapper gives an error.
[01:09] <robotgeek> oh okay, i have no clue about ndiswrapper
[01:09] <QMario> What is modprobe?
[01:09] <QMario> How would I make modprobe work?
[01:09] <robotgeek> QMario: it inserts a kernel module into the kernel
[01:15] <cazeloof_> salut les jeunes
[01:30] <jaro> hi everyone
[01:34] <jaro> does someone know where i can get new themes and stuff ? repositories would be nice
[01:46] <jaro> why do i not have a C compiler installed ?
[01:47] <jaro> why can I not compile things ?
[01:49] <djk_> jaro: you can download and install them..
[01:49] <djk_> via apt..
[01:49] <jaro> styles ?
[01:49] <jaro> I am looking for a new style
[01:49] <jaro> but that one is only available in source
[01:50] <jaro> so i tried to compile it
[01:50] <jaro> and i got this error message
[01:50] <gerst> hi
[01:50] <jaro> that i was missing a C Compiler
[01:50] <jaro> or do You know any repositories for KDE Styles ?
[01:50] <gerst> I`m using kubuntu and I have 2 sound cards how can I switch which one to use?
[01:50] <djk_> my answer was regarding the c compiler question..
[01:51] <jaro> hm yea, but i dont know how to do it via apt
[01:52] <QMario> 121
[01:52] <djk_> !compiling
[01:54] <jaro> !compile
[01:54] <ubotu> compile is, like, totally, Go and read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall. tar -zxvf tarball, cd blah, ./configure, make, make install or install by hand.  Also, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ConfigureMakeMakeInstall.  Ask me about <compiling>
[01:54] <djk_> jaro: did you read the message ubotu send you..
[01:54] <djk_> sent*
[01:54] <jaro> yes
[01:55] <jaro> i know about compiliing
[01:55] <jaro> there was no other version
[01:55] <jaro> or package
[01:55] <jsubl2> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:56] <jsubl2> jaro sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:56] <jaro> ah that one again ^^
[01:56] <jaro> i will have to wait because kynaptic is still busy
[01:57] <djk_> jsubl2: do you know the syntax to change something ubotu knows
[01:57] <jsubl2> no
[02:02] <jaro> ok installing Build-Essential now
[02:02] <jbever> does anyone know whether it is safe to upgrade my kernel through adept?
[02:05] <jaro> it works :)
[02:05] <wampus> jbever, i did....noticed no problems so far
[02:05] <jaro> thanks 
[02:05] <jaro> can You tell me, where I can see the logs for an installation ?
[02:06] <wampus> jaro, kubuntu installation?
[02:06] <jbever> thanks wampus, I will give it a try
[02:06] <djk_> ubotu forget compile
[02:06] <ubotu> i forgot compile, djk_
[02:06] <jsubl2> not sure maybe /var/log
[02:06] <djk_> ubotu compile is Go and read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall tar -zxvf tarball, cd blah, ./configure, make, make install or install by hand.  Also, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ConfigureMakeMakeInstall  Ask me about !compiling
[02:06] <ubotu> okay, djk_
[02:06] <djk_> !compile
[02:06] <ubotu> well, compile is Go and read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall tar -zxvf tarball, cd blah, ./configure, make, make install or install by hand.  Also, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ConfigureMakeMakeInstall  Ask me about !compiling
[02:06] <jaro> hm, no for anything i installed via apt or compile
[02:06] <djk_> good.
[02:07] <wampus> jaro, probably in whatever dir it installed to there will be a log
[02:08] <jaro> hm
[02:08] <jaro> another thing... I just compiled ActiveHeart (KdeStyle) , but I can
[02:08] <jaro> t
[02:08] <jaro>  find it in the styles list yet..
[02:08] <jaro> where is it ?
[02:08] <wampus> did you make, make install?
[02:09] <jaro> yes
[02:09] <wampus> did you recieve an error?
[02:10] <jaro> no
[02:10] <wampus> i dunno man, i guess try it again
[02:10] <jaro> hmm
[02:10] <jaro> ok
[02:11] <jaro> wait, maybe it has something to do with an configure option i didnt specifiy
[02:11] <jaro> To Install:
[02:11] <jaro> ./configure --prefix="`kde-config --prefix`"
[02:11] <jaro> make
[02:11] <jaro> make install
[02:11] <jaro> what exactly is "'kde-config --prefic'" ?
[02:11] <vblanton> is LeeJunFan around?
[02:11] <wampus> try omitting all that and just do ./configure
[02:12] <jaro> i did
[02:12] <jsubl2> I generally use ./configure --prefix=/usr since kubuntu puts everything in /usr
[02:12] <LeeJunFan> vblanton: hey, wassup?
[02:12] <vblanton> LeeJunFan, remember my internet woes?
[02:12] <vblanton> LeeJunFan, I fixed 'em :)
[02:12] <LeeJunFan> yeah, what was it?
[02:12] <vblanton> LeeJunFan, MTU
[02:13] <vblanton> had to lower it from 1500 to 1400
[02:13] <LeeJunFan> haha, what a guess. :)
[02:13] <vblanton> now it works like a charm.
[02:13] <wampus> jaro, that should work. i would check on kde look (i assume thats where you got it) and see if anyone has reported a bug or if there is an upgrade.
[02:13] <vblanton> Thanks for helping me out, looks like I'll be switching over to kubuntu now :)
[02:13] <LeeJunFan> vblanton: cool. You're welcome.
[02:13] <jaro> well, here it says, please restart kde after installation
[02:13] <jaro> do i have to reboot ?
[02:13] <jaro> or just log off / on ?
[02:13] <wampus> just log out
[02:13] <jaro> ok
[02:13] <wampus> yeah
[02:14] <wampus> let me know how it goes
[02:15] <jaro> re
[02:16] <jaro> still no style
[02:18] <wampus> im gonna try myself, active heart on kde look, right?
[02:18] <jaro> yes
[02:19] <jaro> :)
[02:19] <jaro> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=11384
[02:20] <Deviant17m> can anyone send me this file ----->"linux-image-2.6.12-9-386_2.6.12-9.23_i386.deb"
[02:20] <Deviant17m> it's corrupted on my install package
[02:21] <seth_k> http://ubuntu.mirrors.tds.net/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.12/linux-image-2.6.12-9-386_2.6.12-9.23_i386.deb
[02:24] <jaro> re wampus
[02:24] <wampus> jaro, didnt work for me either. i dunno what the deal is
[02:25] <jaro> :(
[02:25] <jaro> i had this one installed on hoary last time
[02:26] <wampus> its gotta be something stupid that were just overlooking, or the style for whatever reason doesnt work with breezy
[02:26] <jaro> maybe
[02:26] <jaro> but at least im not the only one
[02:27] <wampus> ahhh
[02:27] <wampus> its a kwin style
[02:27] <jaro> and that means ?
[02:27] <wampus> on its page there is a link to the kwin client. install that and see what happens
[02:28] <jaro> oh
[02:28] <wampus> adept may have it
[02:29] <jaro> i take it it is already installed, as it appears green on apt
[02:30] <wampus> yeah i know...it appears you have to install a seperate client for this style. seems like a lot of trouble. 
[02:32] <jaro> ah
[02:32] <jaro> but the style is lovely
[02:32] <wampus> indeed
[02:33] <wampus> if that doesnt work i dont know what else to do. it would be nice IF SOMEONE ELSE COULD HELP OUT WITH THIS PROBLEM. it kinda sux when you have 130 people on a channel and only 1 is willing to help
[02:34] <wampus> come on people
[02:35] <dale> where can I go to get an updated apt sources-list,,, there are packages supposedly available that I can't find
[02:36] <aleman> dale did you add multiverse and universe?
[02:37] <sorush20> is there a way that I can automatically compile from source?
[02:37] <dale> universe yes...  unaware of multiverse
[02:37] <sorush20> with out haveing to type configure 
[02:37] <wampus> uhhh no
[02:38] <sorush20> is there a way that the configure program could get all the dependencies?
[02:38] <wampus> nope...sorry. maybe one day.
[02:38] <aleman> dale: same line that universe but multiverse instead
[02:39] <sorush20> Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! what do I do when I get this ?
[02:39] <dale> aleman:  thanks am trying now
[02:40] <aleman> dale let me know if that was it..., btw what are the packages that you are trying to get?
[02:40] <wampus> sorush20, try using adept to make sure all your X apps are installed and upgraded. i think that should do it.
[02:40] <BlueEagle> wampus: Some people might be AFK and I do not get paid to help people. Loosing the attitude MIGHT help you.
[02:40] <sorush20> how do I use adept to make sure that x apps are instlled?
[02:41] <BlueEagle> sorush20: gentoo? :p
[02:41] <wampus> k menu -> system -> adept
[02:41] <sorush20> BlueEagle: no , Kubuntu
[02:42] <dale> aleman:  semms to have worked thnx...  was just trying to get mplayer to watch a movie :)
[02:42] <aleman> ok, glad it worked...
[02:43] <aleman> still look into the starter guides to have everything working...
[02:45] <jaro> arg
[02:45] <BlueEagle> sorush20: What are you attempting to compile btw?
[02:45] <jaro> i cant find the programs i installed
[02:45] <BlueEagle> jaro: which program did you install then?
[02:46] <sorush20> k3b I'm having problems with erasing the DVDRW
[02:46] <jaro> now i installed ehm
[02:46] <jaro> deKorator
[02:47] <jaro> some kind of style
[02:47] <jaro> or theme-manager
[02:47] <jaro> but i don't know where to open it
[02:48] <sophie_> hello all
[02:50] <aleman> hey sophie
[02:51] <sophie_> I just did a fresh breezy install with kde 3.5 on new harddrive
[02:51] <sophie_> aleman: Maxtor hd reliabilty suck
[02:52] <Deviant17m> hey can anyone send me the linux-image-2.6.12-9-386_2.6.12-9.23_i386.deb from the instalation cd please, i got it corrupted and i dont wanna download entire cd again
[02:52] <BlueEagle> deviant17m: You can remove the CD from your sources.list and download the package.
[02:52] <sophie_> Deviant17m: why not dowload it
[02:52] <andre> Hi. I would like to know, how I van get kaffeine working. It doesn't work and everybody in forums out there can't find a solution. And this bugs are the same since hoary
[02:53] <BlueEagle> deviant17m: just comment out the CD and then aptitude install it
[02:53] <aleman> sophie: ???
[02:54] <sorush20> guys any dapper art work
[02:54] <sophie_> aleman: what
[02:54] <Deviant17m> cause when i try and download the package, it doesnt download especific package, it start download again and when installing it says that some files form another instalation and install interrupts 
[02:54] <aleman> nevermind...
[02:55] <aleman> andre I've been using kaffeine with no problems...
[02:55] <aleman> do you have codecs and streamers and plugins installed?
[02:57] <andre> Yes I have. I jhvae gstreamer-ffmpeg working
[02:57] <Deviant17m> eehh comment? (O_o)
[02:58] <Deviant17m> can anyone just send me the file please =) ill appreciate it
[02:58] <andre> the problem that is the same since hoary. using kaffeine-xine. If I iopen a file it works. When i click to open another file it crashes
[02:59] <aleman> andre: sorry no idea...
[03:00] <jsubl2> Deviant17m: wget http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.12/linux-image-2.6.12-9-386_2.6.12-9.23_i386.deb  
[03:00] <andre> aleman> Can you watch DVDs. Yes I have libdvdcss, wich I got from marillat
[03:01] <Deviant17m> i am in windows, dont got linux installed i am in a friends cd
[03:01] <Deviant17m> P*
[03:01] <Deviant17m> pc*
[03:01] <aleman> don't have dvd player in my pc (quite old)
[03:02] <andre> aleman: ok tanks
[03:02] <Deviant17m> oh great thank you jsubl2 =)
[03:03] <jsubl2> =)
[03:05] <Knowerrors> Anyone know of a kubuntu channel for developers?
[03:07] <BlueEagle> knowerrors: I am guessing kubuntu-devel or kubuntu-dev
[03:08] <Knowerrors> yeah, first one worked, good guess
[03:12] <BlueEagle> knowerrors: One of my strong points. :p
[03:40] <[Relic] > I have tried everything I can think of to stop the HD from doing something every 5 seconds, but I am out of ideas, all the logging is off, sensors off, bluetooth still activates even though it was supposedly shut off, top doesn't give many hints of what it is, last files written doesn't show much, and I am out of ideas, I may just need to try a full new install, but I don't know if that would just keep producing the same pro
[03:40] <[Relic] > blem
[03:40] <[Relic] > any ideas on something I could shut down that might be doing that that I may have missed?
[03:44] <fatejudger> is that text file display issue in KDE 3.5 a Kubuntu-only issue?
[03:46] <joel> how hard is it to set up a dual boot machine?  I want 5.10 and dapper on the same box, is it possible to keep them completely seperate?
[03:46] <joel> 1 HDD
[03:49] <bam_> anyone configure thunderbird with guarddog firewall yet?
[04:45] <homo_buntu> na ihr buten buntus :-)
[04:46] <djk_> na homo
[04:48] <thebanana> has anyone been successful connecting to networks with the apollon that's in the repo?
[05:01] <freelove> im on ubuntu breezy.if i install kubuntu-desktop now, will i get kde 3.5?
[05:01] <jsubl2> no  see http://kubuntu.org
[05:02] <jsubl2> the repo is in the notice
[05:02] <freelove> but in repos i can see version 3.5??!!!
[05:02] <jsubl2> ok
[05:02] <jsubl2> i would still read the notice on kubuntu.org 
[05:03] <freelove> what notice? it simply says 3.5 packages are available?
[05:05] <jsubl2> click read more
[05:06] <RobNyc> anyone here can help me why i cant mount my reiser4 partition
[05:06] <RobNyc> also whos running superkaramba here
[05:09] <freelove> RobNyc, what partition is it? is it for storage?
[05:10] <RobNyc> freelove, its my gentoo partitoin
[05:10] <RobNyc> partition*
[05:11] <jsubl2> default ubuntu kernel does not have reiser4 support 
[05:11] <RobNyc> jsubl2, so what can i do
[05:12] <RobNyc> im on 2.6.12-smp kernel btw
[05:12] <jsubl2> patch and build your own
[05:13] <RobNyc> oh ok 
[05:13] <RobNyc> thanks
[05:46] <corona> my win mod key doesn't seem to work anymore! can someone help please...?
[05:58] <_texas> i want to reinstall Kubuntu with the DVD i just created on my other computer, and this linux box wont boot the dvd when restarted, any suggestions?
[06:02] <PokerFacePenguin> _texas: does the dvd boot in the computer you created it on?
[06:02] <_texas> it loads the disc menu
[06:03] <_texas> this box dosent even load the menu when i put it in
[06:03] <PokerFacePenguin> _texas: havent booted a kubuntu dvd...but that sounds like a yes to me...how old is the other pc?
[06:03] <_texas> this computer is maybe a year old
[06:04] <_texas> the other i built 4 months ago
[06:04] <PokerFacePenguin> _texas: and you can make it boot a cd fine?  the pc that wont boot the dvd..
[06:05] <_texas> well i installed this Kubuntu on a CD-R on this machine
[06:05] <PokerFacePenguin> _texas: I would burn the dvd on the newer pc at a very slow rate...slowest you can...
[06:05] <_texas> it seems to have burnt fine though, ill try it in the other computer real quick
[06:07] <PokerFacePenguin> _texas: if all drives are dvd bootable, and the dvd boots in the new pc, and dvd doesnt boot in the old...i would burn it slooooooow and try again, and also wonder about whether the old pc will boot _any_ dvd
[06:07] <_texas> the old PC is not old , parts are maybe 1 year old
[06:08] <PokerFacePenguin> _texas: and it has booted a dvd before?
[06:08] <_texas> never tried it before
[06:08] <_texas> i dont see why it wouldent
[06:10] <_texas> the other computer booted LIVE
[06:11] <_texas> i wonder if i kill this install and wipe the drive if it would work
[06:12] <PokerFacePenguin> hmm burn it slow first
[06:13] <_texas> ok, and if that dosent work, how can i reformat the hard drive
[06:13] <_texas> use the CD-R version?
[06:15] <PokerFacePenguin> you want to wipe it all?
[06:15] <_texas> yep
[06:15] <_texas> just installed it the other day so nothing important on here
[06:16] <PokerFacePenguin> you can use parted to delete and recreate with a knoppix disc
[06:16] <PokerFacePenguin> would be my preferred way
[06:16] <_texas> whats parted?
[06:16] <PokerFacePenguin> a command line disk partitioning tool
[06:17] <_texas> so reboot in Gnome and use Parted?
[06:17] <PokerFacePenguin> you on multi partition computer?
[06:17] <_texas> nope
[06:17] <_texas> just Kubuntu on here
[06:18] <PokerFacePenguin> so each pc has one partition...one pc is K one is U
[06:18] <PokerFacePenguin> ?
[06:18] <_texas> one is Windows XP and this one is Kubuntu
[06:19] <sophie_> does anyone know what is using gam_server in kubuntu because it is acting up
[06:19] <PokerFacePenguin> _texas: I believe that rm -R * will delete it all if you want to use the same filesystem type...let me man that command real quick
[06:21] <PokerFacePenguin> _texas: if you just want to get rid of the whole filesystem i think u can cd / and issue a rm -fR * to wipe the complete filesystem....someone please correct me if i am wrong
[06:21] <sproingie> much faster to umount it and mkfs
[06:22] <PokerFacePenguin> sproingie: he seemed to be a little shy about parted tho :)
[06:22] <_texas> i dont know anything about linux, trying to learn
[06:23] <sproingie> it's no scarier than rm'ing the whole filesystem
[06:23] <sproingie> and a whole lot faster
[06:23] <_texas> can u give me a step by step to doing that please Sproingie?
[06:23] <sproingie> just use qtparted.  google for "system rescue cd"
[06:24] <sproingie> it's all pointy clicky easy
[06:26] <_texas> here http://qtparted.sourceforge.net/download.en.html which one do i need
[06:27] <PokerFacePenguin> _texas: do you own a knoppix cd?
[06:28] <_texas> nope
[06:28] <_texas> is Kubuntu a good distro to start out with?
[06:28] <PokerFacePenguin> _texas: yes
[06:28] <_texas> k
[06:29] <_texas> so i should just make a Knoppix CD?
[06:29] <PokerFacePenguin> _texas: yes...and use qtparted
[06:29] <PokerFacePenguin> _texas: it is on there
[06:30] <_texas> i have to install knoppix or no?
[06:30] <PokerFacePenguin> _texas: no, it is live
[06:30] <_texas> k
[06:30] <_texas> thanks for ur help guys, ill try ur suggestions
[06:30] <PokerFacePenguin> _texas: and "pointy clicky" :)
[06:30] <_texas> hehe
[06:30] <_texas> see u soon i hope
[06:53] <Flammia> hey... anyone active in here??
[06:55] <dareboy> hey how do i change the repositories to universe
[06:55] <Flammia> here's where to go...
[06:57] <Flammia> hmmm, can't find the link
[06:57] <Flammia> I'll just explain it
[06:57] <dareboy> k
[06:57] <Hobbsee> !tell dareboy about repos
[06:57] <Flammia> ??
[06:57] <kinfo> what?
[06:58] <Hobbsee> !
[06:58] <ubotu> I don't know, Hobbsee
[06:58] <Flammia> kk...
[06:58] <Hobbsee> !ubotu
[06:58] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[06:58] <Flammia> click Adept -> Manage repositories
[06:58] <dareboy> k
[06:58] <dareboy> then...
[06:58] <Flammia> then activate basically all of them
[06:58] <dareboy> how
[06:58] <Flammia> and where it says "main restricted"
[06:58] <Flammia> change it to "main restricted universe multiverse"
[06:59] <Flammia> right click -> enable
[06:59] <Flammia> to activate
[07:00] <dareboy> do u change all of main restricted
[07:01] <Flammia> does anyone in here know of a way to stop the "K Menu" popup every time I roll over the button??
[07:01] <Flammia> don't need to change them all...
[07:01] <Flammia> I just did it for archive.ubuntu.com
[07:04] <dareboy> how do u Create a new shell script in the /usr/bin directory.
[07:05] <Flammia> lol.. ask someone who actually knows how to use linux
[07:05] <Flammia> all I can tell you is you'll have to be root, and probably have to do it through KATE or maybe Konsole
[07:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> dareboy: use /usr/local/bin
[07:06] <dareboy> 
[07:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> dareboy: and do the script, then copy it in
[07:06] <dareboy> how do i get there
[07:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> dareboy: have you made your script?
[07:07] <dareboy> wat?
[07:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> dareboy: have you written your script yet?
[07:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi robitaille
[07:07] <dareboy> wtas that
[07:07] <dareboy> watsthat
[07:07] <robitaille> Hello Kamping_Kaiser 
[07:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[07:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> *shrug* at db
[07:09] <Flammia> Kaiser... do you mind doing a short tutorial??
[07:12] <Flammia> guess that was a negative
[07:13] <Flammia> if anyone wanders in, and feels like solving a problem, I installed flashplayer-mozilla from adept, but it doesn't register any keyboard input in flash applets
[07:14] <Flammia> I also tried installing firefox (also via adept), and it has the same problem... won't recognize any keystrokes when flash is in focus
[07:17] <_texas> okay so i got into qtparted
[07:18] <_texas> but apperntly id did not format my drive
[07:18] <_texas> it*
[07:19] <Flammia> so do it again... ??
[07:28] <pussfeller> so whats the command to install the new kde after you add the sources, apt-get install kde?
[07:28] <pussfeller> ya know,the blurd doesnt tell you that part
[07:28] <pussfeller> blurb
[07:29] <Flammia> why not use adept, and it installs itself
[07:30] <pussfeller> 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu1 is the version all these are comming up as, with install kde
[07:30] <pussfeller> yeah, but wahts the package name
[07:30] <pussfeller> is it kubuntu-desktop, or kde, or what
[07:30] <pussfeller> is it kde35?
[07:33] <pussfeller> ah, i forgot to update
[07:33] <pussfeller> silly me
[07:33] <pussfeller> bad pussfeller
[07:35] <Tm_T> =)
[07:35] <Flammia> I don't know... sorry
[07:35] <Flammia> I'm very new :(
[07:41] <pussfeller> its ok, i should know better
[07:41] <pussfeller> thats why i am bad bad bad
[07:41] <Flammia> lol... that's one way to put it
[07:41] <Flammia> think you can help me out with something??
[07:42] <Flammia> I know the basic formatting of a script, and such... I jsut want to know how I should create/save it
[07:42] <pussfeller> you mean in a text editor?
[07:44] <whiskers> how do i get my webcam to work , i have a logitech zoom
[07:45] <Flammia> yeah
[07:45] <Flammia> I tried one, and saved it as "test.sh", but I couldn't run it from a terminal
[07:45] <pussfeller> sh test.sh
[07:45] <Flammia> wha??
[07:45] <Flammia> erxplain, please
[07:46] <pussfeller> if its a bash script, you type sh script.sh
[07:46] <pussfeller> or chmod it +x and then ./script.sh, given that it has the path at the top
[07:47] <Flammia> yeah... I did ./script.sh
[07:47] <Flammia> how would the chmod +x be done??
[07:48] <pussfeller> #!/bin/sh should be the very first line
[07:48] <pussfeller> chmod +x script.sh
[07:49] <pussfeller> or right click on it in konqy and change it that way
[07:49] <Flammia> yes... that is my first line
[07:50] <pussfeller> but "sh test.sh" should work
[07:50] <Flammia> ah... so it basically sets a file parameter that makes the system recognize it as a shell script, without typing "sh" on the command line
[07:50] <pussfeller> no, thats what the #!/bin/sh does, in a sense
[07:50] <Flammia> then what does the chmod +x modify it to??
[07:50] <pussfeller> making it executable means you can run it, which is what +x does
[07:51] <Flammia> I understand it must be done... but why??
[07:51] <Flammia> gotcha... executable
[07:51] <Flammia> duh... x for executable
[07:51] <pussfeller> actually, i never asked myself why before
[07:51] <drumline> Flammia: do you know how the octet for permissions works?
[07:51] <pussfeller> i wonder what subtereanean process that unleashes
[07:52] <Flammia> oi vey... the octect for permissions
[07:52] <pussfeller> heh
[07:52] <Flammia> vaguely... I understand the premise, but not what each specific digit represents anymore
[07:52] <drumline> Flammia: oi vey?
[07:52] <pussfeller> i always forget which ones are which
[07:52] <pussfeller> and I have to scroll down in man chmod
[07:52] <drumline> Flammia: ahh...  ok...  4r 2w 1x
[07:52] <Flammia> oi vey means nothing... I jsut say it sometimes
[07:53] <pussfeller> and then there is ugo to make it even more confusing
[07:53] <pussfeller> user, group, others
[07:53] <Flammia> so the chmod sets the permissions...
[07:53] <drumline> I don't even use ugo... I think it's a waste of time
[07:53] <Flammia> that explains why I was getting a very general error when trying to run it
[07:54] <Flammia> I assume I need to sudo to use chmod??
[07:54] <drumline> although there are occasions when ugo can be useful...  I'll say that.
[07:54] <drumline> Flammia: yes..  
[07:54] <pussfeller> its good if you forget what each number stands for
[07:55] <pussfeller> Flammia: makeing a script 777 means everyone can write it, execute, or read it
[07:55] <pussfeller> or any file for that matter
[07:55] <Flammia> so by running chmod +x, I add 111 to a script's permission key??
[07:56] <Flammia> to allow anyone to run it
[07:56] <pussfeller> thats a good question
[07:56] <pussfeller> yea that changes all the perm
[07:57] <Flammia> er... well, it would only be 111 if nobody could run it before using chmod... othewise it's confusing
[07:57] <Flammia> so what do the "user" "group" and "others" refer to??
[07:58] <Flammia> I always thought the numbers related to "root" "users" and "guests"
[07:58] <pussfeller> you are user, group is the group the file belongs to, and others, are people who arent either
[07:58] <pussfeller> if you do ls -alh in your home dir you will see stuff that relates
[07:59] <Flammia> so the only way to make something accessible only to root, you would have to be root and set permissions to 700??
[08:00] <Flammia> or does root automatically get 7 for all files??
[08:01] <pussfeller> root can do what it wants to anyfile on the system
[08:02] <pussfeller> and if you want people to read, but not write, you could do 744
[08:02] <pussfeller> root has all 3, group and others have read only
[08:03] <Flammia> alright... so i get what user and others refer to... but I'm a little sketchy on group
[08:04] <drumline> group is what group the user belongs to in /etc/group
[08:04] <drumline> group or groups
[08:06] <pussfeller> say you wanted to share files, but only certain people were allowed to chnge the files, you could make a group, put those users in the group, and then chmod 774
[08:06] <Flammia> oh, cool
[08:07] <pussfeller> and chown user.group -R filedir
[08:07] <Flammia> I'm assuming the chown part is to determine which of the user's groups gain access
[08:08] <pussfeller> yeah it determines who "owns" the files
[08:11] <Flammia> gotcha
[08:11] <Flammia> anyways... the script worked :)
[08:17] <Flammia> hey... has anyone heard of a bug where the keyboard doesn't work in flash??
[08:19] <pussfeller> whats the command to remove only a certain package and not the dependencies
[08:25] <Flammia> I'm telling you man... use adept
[08:25] <Flammia> I think it gives you the option
[08:25] <aftertaf> and adept is full of kde goodness
[08:27] <aftertaf> and hi Hobbsee again ;)
[08:27] <Hobbsee> hehe hello again aftertaf 
[08:27] <aftertaf> :)
[08:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> hey Hobbsee
[08:27] <Flammia> whoa, people are talking in here!!
[08:27] <Hobbsee> hey Kamping_Kaiser 
[08:27] <Hobbsee> Flammia: of course
[08:28] <Hobbsee> aftertaf: i join a fair few channels on startup...
[08:28] <aftertaf> me 2
[08:28] <aftertaf> !lart Kamping_Kaiser 
[08:28] <aftertaf> lol
[08:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> !lart aftertaf
[08:28] <aftertaf> ooooo*
[08:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> !lart Hobbsee
[08:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> woot
[08:28] <Hobbsee> hehe
[08:29] <Hobbsee> Kamping_Kaiser: you're supposed to do it quietly...
[08:29] <aftertaf> w0_ot
[08:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> l0l
[08:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> why? ;)
[08:29] <aftertaf> why not?
[08:29] <Flammia> and I see Kaiser's active again
[08:29] <aftertaf> nice :)
[08:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[08:30] <aftertaf> top
[08:30] <Hobbsee> well, Kamping_Kaiser was
[08:30] <Flammia> lol.. defenestration is the only solution... Hobbsee knows his stuff
[08:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> wtf is it/does it?
[08:30] <Hobbsee> Flammia: definetly, and it's her
[08:30] <Hobbsee> Kamping_Kaiser: answers.com
[08:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol. you called me her yesterday Hobbsee :P
[08:31] <Flammia> ah... sorry, miss
[08:31] <Hobbsee> you cant, you've been defenestrated
[08:31] <Flammia> lol
[08:31] <Hobbsee> hehe Kamping_Kaiser - you confused me!
[08:31] <Flammia> defenestrate him again
[08:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[08:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> woot. 
[08:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> rofl
[08:32] <Hobbsee> i hate to say it, but that factoid is rather innapropriate for me lol...
[08:32] <Flammia> Defenestratology - The science of throwing things out/off of a window/opening/roof, preferably resulting in a fall of 5m or greater
[08:32] <Hobbsee> hehe yeah
[08:32] <aftertaf> Hobbsee:  depends on the staplegun ;)
[08:32] <Flammia> you can infer what defenestrating is from that
[08:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol. i see
[08:32] <Hobbsee> defenestration: the act of throwing someone or something out a window
[08:32] <Hobbsee> also means "getting rid of windows"
[08:33] <Flammia> did you defenestrate your Windows??
[08:33] <Hobbsee> hehe
[08:33] <Hobbsee> me?  no, it's still ther
[08:33] <Hobbsee> e
[08:33] <Flammia> I should... it's pissing me off
[08:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> you didnt throuw it hard enough Hobbsee :)
[08:33] <Flammia> like seriously, if it has the option to push F6 to install to a SATA drive, you'd expect F6 to maybe, I dunno... work??
[08:34] <Hobbsee> hehe, nah..
[08:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol Flammia
[08:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> not unless you get the delux upgrade :O
[08:34] <Hobbsee> Flammia: that's where you'd expect F6 to cause a BSoD
[08:34] <Flammia> right... I got the deluxe upgrade to Kubuntu
[08:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> woot
[08:34] <Hobbsee> ah yes, definetly an upgrade
[08:35] <aftertaf> like the xbox 360
[08:35] <Hobbsee> Kamping_Kaiser: which version of wine?
[08:35] <aftertaf> 2 versions. one that costs more and is compat with old games
[08:35] <Flammia> though my system's still rife with issues... most of which I'm too noob to fix :(
[08:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hobbsee: whatevers shipped in dapper
[08:35] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[08:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> from july this year
[08:35] <aftertaf> Flammia:  noobness with a desire to get it working it a good thing
[08:35] <jhealey> anyone try win4lin?
[08:35] <Hobbsee> Kamping_Kaiser: why are you not using the proper wine repo?
[08:36] <Flammia> err... what's a wine??
[08:36] <Hobbsee> !wine
[08:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hobbsee: i pointed at it, and it didnt get me an update
[08:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> so i went :(
[08:36] <Flammia> !wine
[08:36] <Hobbsee> Kamping_Kaiser: how long ago was this?
[08:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> about 4 hours ago
[08:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> maybe 2
[08:36] <jhealey> Flammingya, it allows you to run windows apps within GNU/Linux
[08:37] <Flammia> wow... sounds useful
[08:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> it's cool when it works
[08:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> i had to get a dll from a doze using mate for google earth to start installing
[08:37] <jhealey> yes, also try win4lin, a commerical prod that I've heard is good....? .... anyone??
[08:37] <Flammia> I especially love the idea of using a secure OS to emulate an insecure OS... it's almost like there was no point in switching to linux
[08:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> and it buggered up during install, so i have to try again later
[08:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> jhealey: yeh, it's supposed to be.
[08:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> mate used it
[08:38] <Hobbsee> http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb <-- Kamping_Kaiser there's a newer version if you follow those instructions
[08:38] <aftertaf> Kamping_Kaiser:  try qemu
[08:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> Flammia: WINE Is Not An Emulator
[08:38] <Flammia> "for Debian"
[08:38] <Hobbsee> Kamping_Kaiser: you can usually download .dll files, you know
[08:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> aftertaf: i don't want to use Windows :S
[08:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> i want google earth to run in linux
[08:38] <jhealey> Flammia: yeah, that is kind of odd, but we all have some app we still need
[08:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hobbsee: it was just as quick asking somoene else to get it to me :)
[08:38] <Flammia> will apps aimed at Debian still work with Ubuntu?? (I hear we're Debian based)
[08:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> some
[08:39] <Hobbsee> Kamping_Kaiser: mmm....maybe
[08:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> with more or less success
[08:39] <Flammia> Kamping_Kaiser: not an emulator??
[08:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> no, it's (quote) an api translation layer
[08:39] <Hobbsee> i used 0.9.1, IIRC - worked ok
[08:39] <Hobbsee> of wine, that is
[08:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> i saw 0.9.2 is on wines repos
[08:39] <ClayG> wine is not an emulator like gnu is not unix
[08:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> but it wouldnt update me *downloads by hand*
[08:39] <Flammia> ah... if I knew what that was, I might understand
[08:40] <Flammia> uhh... Gnu??
[08:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> gnu is not UNIX :|
[08:40] <jhealey> a recursive acronym, Flammia
[08:40] <Hobbsee> yeah, 0.9.2 is teh latest
[08:41] <jhealey> Flammia, check out www.gnu.org
[08:41] <Flammia> well, I know I'll be looking to install a Windows game at some point... guess I should acquire Wine
[08:41] <Hobbsee> Flammia: might be worth trying cedega
[08:41] <jhealey> lots of good info about why we should call our OS a GNU/Linux OS, not a Linux OS
[08:42] <Hobbsee> !cedega
[08:42] <ubotu> I heard cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/index.php?title=Main_Page or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/
[08:42] <Flammia> lol... a recursive acronym
[08:42] <Flammia> that is so wrong on so many levels... it's like a solution to a 4th year engineering problem
[08:43] <aftertaf> looool
[08:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol. get used to it
[08:43] <Flammia> so cedega is an alternative to Wine??
[08:43] <aftertaf> Flammia:  geeks cant be good at everything
[08:43] <jhealey> setting up my wireless NIC was like doing japanese arithmetic
[08:43] <aftertaf> Flammia:  sort of, but payware$
[08:43] <Flammia> aftertaf: but we try
[08:43] <aftertaf> jhealey:  looool
[08:44] <jhealey> loool?
[08:44] <aftertaf> a big lol
[08:44] <aftertaf> :] 
[08:44] <jhealey> laughing over obstinate odd oval loudly?
[08:45] <Flammia> setting up wireless??
[08:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> =] 
[08:45] <jhealey> that made no set
[08:45] <Flammia> never done it in Linux... is it painful??
[08:45] <jhealey> yeah, i set up wireless on this nic
[08:45] <jhealey> it was painful for me
[08:45] <aftertaf> things rarely do, jhealey 
[08:45] <jhealey> set=sense
[08:45] <jhealey> i used ndiswrapper
[08:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> Flammia: it's either easy or impossibly hard. you may be lucky :)
[08:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> ask ubotu
[08:45] <Flammia> wait... is there actually something XP does better than Linux??
[08:46] <jhealey> which requires the *right* win32 driver for my NIC
[08:46] <Flammia> it takes approx 12 clicks to get wireless working in XP
[08:46] <Hobbsee> Flammia: oh, occasionally, there is something
[08:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> Flammia: if you have your driver cd....
[08:46] <Flammia> wow... my tiny mind has just been shattered and disillusioned
[08:46] <jhealey> yes, wireless in XP was a lot easier
[08:47] <jhealey> what happened Flammier?
[08:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> the penguin isnt all dancing :)
[08:47] <Flammia> I learned that not every distro of Linux is superior to XP in every way
[08:47] <jhealey> nope.  XP is the better desktop OS in some categories
[08:48] <jhealey> but the negatives outway the positives for me
[08:48] <Flammia> meh... doesn't matter how good it is if you can't install it :P
[08:48] <ClayG> jhealey: I got to say that xp rivals alot of it's linux counter parts
[08:48] <jhealey> i definetly recommend it for idiots
[08:48] <Flammia> I recommend Linux for idiots
[08:48] <ClayG> of coarse that is compairing xp to gnome/kde/someother windowmanager
[08:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> it depends on the ididot
[08:48] <jhealey> and people who don't mind lining the pockets of evil scumbags
[08:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> gaming idiot=Windows
[08:48] <Flammia> because then I won't have to talk to them... I work tech support and we only support XP
[08:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> other idiot=linux (ubuntu)
[08:49] <ClayG> hahah true
[08:49] <jhealey> hehe. i used to do tech support for MS too
[08:49] <ClayG> ragheads
[08:49] <Hobbsee> hehehe
[08:49] <Flammia> nah... not for MS... we're just corporate whores, and only support XP
[08:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> just as the conversation gets going
[08:49] <jhealey> thats not to say that all XP users are idiots, and it does depend on the idiot
[08:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> I'm off to eat
[08:50] <jhealey> bye KK
[08:50] <Flammia> see ya
[08:50] <jhealey> Flamm: I see
[08:50] <Flammia> actually, I retract my previous statement
[08:50] <Kaiser_Eats> later folks
[08:50] <Flammia> I recommend MacOS for idiots
[08:50] <Flammia> get them off both my OS's
[08:51] <jhealey> hehe
[08:51] <jhealey> OS X sure looks nice, doesn't it
[08:51] <jhealey> i was checking it out at Microcenter  the other day
[08:51] <Flammia> hey... since everyone's active now, I could use some help...
[08:52] <jhealey> but some Mac dudes recognized me as a PC person and the ganged up on me and threw me out
[08:52] <Flammia> I've got flash properly installed (as per kubuntuforums.net instructions, using adept), but I can't use the keyboard in it
[08:52] <Flammia> lol... you got kicked by Maclom X
[08:52] <jhealey> hehe
[08:52] <Flammia> he's gonna lead the oppressed Mac users against the "man" (AKA Bill)
[08:53] <jhealey> flammia, i had the same problem tonight using firefox/flash
[08:54] <jpowers> I like OSX
[08:54] <jpowers> a lot
[08:54] <Flammia> "had" as in past tense, as in it's fixed??
[08:54] <jhealey> n ope
[08:54] <Flammia> never used OSX, can't make an opinion on it
[08:54] <jhealey> it was on a Redhat traing course website
[08:54] <aftertaf> firefox?
[08:54] <Flammia> samn...
[08:55] <Flammia> it has the same problem in Konqueror
[08:55] <jhealey> there was a flash applet dealio where I was supposed to enter text
[08:55] <jhealey> the box highlighted, but keystrokes did not make the characters appear
[08:55] <Flammia> there's no way something like that could go unfixed if it was actually a bug... we must have something wrong
[08:55] <jhealey> i guess so
[08:56] <Flammia> that's exactly the same situation I'm in... the mouse registers, but no keystrokes
[08:56] <jhealey> maybe it is a security setting of some kind??
[08:56] <aftertaf> could be that fmash sux
[08:56] <aftertaf> +l even
[08:57] <Flammia> but flash plays games
[08:58] <Flammia> and until I start emulating Windows, I have no other source
[08:58] <jhealey> i had to give up games
[08:58] <aftertaf> i found armagetron and got back into games :)
[08:58] <jhealey> before wiping the last NTFS/Fat partition off every on of my hard drives
[08:59] <Hobbsee> Flammia: i thought it was shockwave that let you play games, not flash
[08:59] <Hobbsee> anyway, you got an example site where it wont let you type things in?
[08:59] <Flammia> well.. don't think I installed shockwave...
[08:59] <Flammia> and a lot of games are flash
[08:59] <jhealey> i cunt give you my example, because it is from a secure website.  FLammia?
[08:59] <poningru> there is no shockwave for linux
[09:00] <Flammia> sure... addictinggames.com/shadowofthewarrior.html
[09:00] <Flammia> I believe is the URL
[09:00] <Flammia> yup
[09:00] <jhealey> when is the next release of ubuntu due out, anyone?
[09:01] <Flammia> tried with some other games off that site... none accepted keyboard input
[09:02] <Hobbsee> jhealey: april 06
[09:02] <Hobbsee> Flammia: as in, using the arrow keys, i take it?
[09:02] <Flammia> jhealey... not playing games is like not having sex... you can try to stop, but there's always that underlying desire
[09:02] <Flammia> until you turn 65, then you just don't care
[09:02] <Flammia> yeah... arrow keys
[09:02] <Flammia> space, ctrl, anything
[09:03] <Hobbsee> Flammia: works here
[09:03] <jhealey> good one Flammia, agreed. that is why I have PS2
[09:03] <Flammia> so it's something in my config...
[09:03] <Flammia> how'd you install, Hobbsee??
[09:03] <Flammia> jhealey: I'd like to say I own a PS2, but console gaming is too expensive for me
[09:04] <Hobbsee> uh, let me grab the link
[09:04] <jhealey> i have a good idea for a name of an ubuntu release
[09:05] <Hobbsee> http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=337871
[09:05] <jhealey> how about "Hairy Beaver"
[09:05] <Flammia> Slippery Sasquatch??
[09:05] <Flammia> you need to alliterate
[09:05] <Hobbsee> Flammia: which version of flash do you have?  http://www.macromedia.com/software/flash/about/ 
[09:06] <Flammia> and the previous 3 have been 4-legged furry mammals
[09:06] <Flammia> my text doesn't show all that well, either... think I don't have that something11 font...
[09:06] <Flammia> anyways looks like 7.0.05.0??
[09:07] <Flammia> or 7.0.06.0
[09:07] <Hobbsee> Flammia: http://www.macromedia.com/go/d9c2fe33
[09:07] <Hobbsee> update it from that
[09:07] <jhealey> Flammia, i went to that website, i get blank buttons and a blank window also, no keyboard input
[09:07] <Flammia> blank buttons... no
[09:08] <Flammia> they have slight markings on them??
[09:08] <Flammia> possibly you're also missing the font??
[09:08] <Hobbsee> might be worht trying msttcorefonts on there too then
[09:08] <jhealey> nope, they be blank
[09:08] <jhealey> no markings
[09:09] <jhealey> just a 'brushed' looking button
[09:10] <Flammia> so you get even less text than I do
[09:10] <Flammia> thanks for the link, Hobbsee... I'll try it out
[09:11] <Hobbsee> no problems
[09:11] <Flammia> hmmm... I installed through adept...
[09:11] <Flammia> is just installing "flashplayer-mozilla" good enough??
[09:11] <jhealey> Flammia, wha part of the world do you hail from?
[09:11] <Flammia> Canada, Ontario to be precise
[09:11] <jhealey> ah
[09:11] <jhealey> texas here
[09:12] <Hobbsee> Flammia: it is, but that's an earlier version of flash
[09:12] <jhealey> seems like a font issue
[09:12] <realjimshady> can anyone tell me how to disable zeroconf/avahi in kubuntu without uninstalling the package?  
[09:12] <Flammia> gotcha
[09:12] <Flammia> Texas... cool
[09:12] <jhealey> cuz i cant see some stuff
[09:12] <Hobbsee> they found a security hole in it, as you'll see in the first link i sent you
[09:12] <Hobbsee> Australia here
[09:12] <jhealey> even when there is no 'input'
[09:12] <Flammia> sweet!!
[09:13] <Flammia> Australia is like Canada, except for the southern hemisphere
[09:13] <jhealey> why, is there dollar worth 60 cents too?
[09:13] <jhealey> there=their
[09:13] <robotgeek_away> jhealey: go Texas!
[09:14] <jhealey> go Texas wooo
[09:14] <jhealey> woohoooo
[09:14] <jhealey> wooo. now i need a beer. don't get me riles
[09:14] <jhealey> riled
[09:14] <robotgeek> oops, this is not offtopic!
[09:14] <Flammia> I've already got the flah installer off the website...
[09:14] <jhealey> robotgreek, are yoou from texass too?
[09:14] <robotgeek> jhealey: yup
[09:14] <Flammia> I jsut couldn't find the proper directory to extract it to the first time, so I gave up and used adept
[09:15] <Flammia> I dunno... what is an Australian dollar worth, Hobbsee??
[09:15] <jhealey> what part, growbotgreek?
[09:15] <Hobbsee> Flammia: dont remember, look it up
[09:15] <jhealey> i think they have drachmas there, not dollars
[09:15] <Flammia> and $CAD is at around 75 rght now
[09:15] <Flammia> I think
[09:16] <jhealey> i used to have a pile of your change when I lived closer to the border
[09:16] <jhealey> not any more though
[09:16] <jhealey> more likely to have a peso...
[09:17] <Flammia> you need Canadian bills
[09:17] <Flammia> they're colourful
[09:17] <Flammia> our 10s are purple!!
[09:17] <jhealey> colorful?
[09:17] <Flammia> no... colourful
[09:17] <jhealey> no, colorful
[09:17] <Flammia> don't be retarded with your lazy spelling and dropping u's in every word
[09:17] <jhealey> we conserver our u's
[09:17] <Hobbsee> colourful here
[09:17] <Flammia> I shall spell in the weay it is spelt where I am
[09:18] <jhealey> i'm saving up all my u's
[09:18] <Flammia> weay is Canadian spelling, too... yeah...
[09:18] <jhealey> I've got 225,234,365 now
[09:18] <Hobbsee> our 10's are blue, or 5's are purple
[09:18] <jhealey> i can use them any way I choose
[09:18] <Flammia> lol... that's because you use so many extra saying "huuh??" all the time
[09:18] <jhealey> here, have 10  uuuuuuuuu
[09:18] <Hobbsee> but our 20's are orange and our 50's are yellow, and 100's are green - far prettier
[09:18] <Flammia> damn, I'm sorry... I'm gonna stop racisming you now
[09:19] <Flammia> yellow??
[09:19] <Hobbsee> yep, yellow
[09:19] <Flammia> that's ugly
[09:19] <Hobbsee> nah, they're quite pretty - it's a nice shade of yellow
[09:19] <Flammia> unless it's nice yellow
[09:19] <jhealey> that's why bnt is my favorite linx
[09:19] <jhealey> bnt = ubuntu without the u's
[09:19] <Flammia> hahahah
[09:20] <jhealey> flammia, check out www.ninjai.com
[09:20] <jhealey> it is like the game you are trying to play
[09:20] <Flammia> hahah!!
[09:20] <Flammia> he's so short!!
[09:21] <Flammia> I can watch it fine
[09:22] <Flammia> except that my video card can hardly handle it
[09:22] <Flammia> yes, I'm serious... my video card can hardly handle flash animation
[09:22] <jhealey> wow, what card is that?
[09:23] <jhealey> shitigottago
[09:24] <jhealey> referring to the fact that I must leave,and not the city in japan of the same name
[09:24] <poningru> rofl
[09:24] <poningru> I thought that was someones name 
[09:25] <jhealey> it would be a good one
[09:25] <jhealey> see you later CanadaFlammia
[09:25] <jhealey> and Hobbsee
[09:25] <jhealey> from the land of Mad Max
[09:25] <Flammia> lol
[09:25] <Flammia> see ya
[09:26] <Flammia> Texas
[09:26] <jhealey> and deadly killer Wollabees
[09:26] <jhealey> and Tarantularoos
[09:27] <jhealey> and vicious flying poisonous housecats
[09:27] <jhealey> and whatever other wierd animals you've got 'down unda'
[09:35] <freeflying> anyone know how to use ipod under kde
[09:36] <manveru> freeflying, you plug it in
[09:37] <freeflying> manveru: y, but nothing happen 
[09:37] <manveru> well, you've got amaroK?
[09:37] <manveru> and wich KDE are you using?
[09:39] <freeflying> manveru: amarok will not find it 
[09:39] <freeflying> I'm using kde3.5 under dapper
[09:39] <manveru> ah... welcome to KDE 3.5 :)
[09:39] <aftertaf> freeflying:  and does an update want to remove 9/10ths of kde?
[09:40] <manveru> freeflying, my best bet would be to edit the /etc/fstab to reflect your ipod
[09:40] <freeflying> aftertaf:  y , because some packages shall be rebuild against the kdelibs4c2a
[09:41] <freeflying> Bus 005 Device 004: ID 05ac:1204 Apple Computer, Inc.
[09:41] <freeflying> but it can not be mounted
[09:44] <aftertaf> freeflying:  nothing appears in /media?
[09:44] <freeflying> aftertaf:  it can not be mounted 
[09:49] <manveru> aftertaf, this automount is buggy in 3.5
[09:49] <manveru> you have to mount it yourself
[09:52] <freeflying> manveru:  ur sure that there are bugs with automount in kde3.5
[09:52] <manveru> absolutly
[09:53] <manveru> i've heard these problems now from ~15 people in here
[09:53] <manveru> i'm never doing anything with cds, dvds usb-sticks or ipods - that's why i don't know how to solve it
[09:53] <freeflying> but they are using breezy
[09:54] <freeflying> manveru: actually , usb flash drive can be used ,and it can be mounted automately
[09:55] <manveru> i see
[09:56] <freeflying> someone have talked this with me in kubuntu-devel hrs ago 
[10:08] <ninHer> hi all
[10:11] <poningru> ello
[10:23] <bam_> commandline question
[10:23] <bam_> mv *.zip /dir/something/ 
[10:23] <bam_> how do I force an overwrite
[10:24] <robotgeek> bam_: -f
[10:28] <cyne> how do i force a disk check on reboot?
[10:29] <cyne> i had a blackout
[10:30] <cyne> and my computer shut down improperly
[10:30] <cyne> now it says my disk is 100% full
[10:30] <cyne> i need to check it but how?
[10:33] <manveru> cyne, well, use the recovery-mode
[10:33] <manveru> or some live-cd
[10:33] <cyne> why?
[10:33] <manveru> because you cannot boot a full disk
[10:33] <cyne> well i did :)
[10:33] <cyne> this is the computer
[10:34] <cyne> i need to fsck on next boot... how do i force that?
[10:34] <manveru> why fsck?
[10:34] <cyne> to check the disk for errors because my computer shutdown in a blackout
[10:34] <bam_> thanks
[10:34] <cyne> that's why the disk is full
[10:35] <manveru> you can fsck from recovery-mode
[10:35] <cyne> recovery mode?
[10:35] <cyne> how do i do that?
[10:35] <manveru> choose it in grub
[10:35] <cyne> ok thanks 
[10:35] <cyne> :)
[10:35] <cyne> bbl
[10:50] <paul__> hi, i've just installed kubuntu, install went fine, however on init 5 it loads the gui and then just freezes 
[10:50] <paul__> i.e freezes on a blue screen with the mouse pointer.. i can load console fine, i'm assuming that there is some issue with my startx settings
[10:51] <aftertaf> paul__:  can you press ctl+alt+F1 and get to console?
[10:51] <paul__> wondering if someone can give me some pointers on how i can debug/ resolve this, as i'm currently only got a console machine!
[10:51] <aftertaf> paul__:  whats your gfx card?
[10:51] <paul__> aftertaf: i didnt try that, i'm currently in console at the moment 
[10:51] <paul__> aftertaf: latest geforce stuff, 
[10:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> do you have the default driver installed?
[10:51] <aftertaf> paul__:  definitely a X problem
[10:52] <manveru> paul__, run 'sudo dexconf'
[10:52] <Kamping_Kaiser>  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-6-686 - Non-free Linux 2.6.15 modules on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV YAYAYAYYYY
[10:52] <paul__> ok i didnt open irssi in a screen so i'll have to quit irc for that 
[10:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> start another console
[10:52] <manveru> you have more consoles...
[10:53] <paul__> how can i get to it ? :D
[10:53] <manveru> ctrl+alt+f2|f3|f4
[10:53] <manveru> up to f6
[10:53] <paul__> its just a flashing cursor 
[10:53] <paul__> like its not loading 
[10:53] <paul__> i.e no root@machinename.. 
[10:53] <manveru> you're in recovery?
[10:53] <aftertaf> paul__:  quit out and screen back in ;)
[10:54] <paul__> yah recovery 
[10:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> well
[10:54] <manveru> start your computer normal again
[10:54] <paul__> give me a minute or so and i'll get back into normal and try control alt f1 
[10:54] <Kamping_Kaiser>  a nasty hack is remove the x bit from init, then boot usual
[10:54] <manveru> paul__, cu later
[10:54] <aftertaf> Kamping_Kaiser:  as long as he doesnt log in via kdm it doesnt freeze
[10:54] <paul__> my system specs are v7800 gefore card, x2 4000 2gb ram 
[10:54] <aftertaf> paul__:  and we'll cjeck your xorg.conf
[10:55] <paul__> i'll be back in a minute 
[10:55] <aftertaf> whoah :] 
[10:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> aftertaf: yeh. so he chmod -x 's kdm and he can boot
[10:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[10:56] <aftertaf> !cigarette
[10:56] <ubotu> It's bad to smoke, but aftertaf needs one all the same...  Here dude, have a light :)
[10:56] <aftertaf> again
[10:59] <paul__> back again.. sucessfully able to use the different consoles with control alt 
[10:59] <paul__> X windows still doesnt load though :(
[11:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> paul__: have you installed dirver?
[11:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> *drivers?
[11:00] <manveru> well, let's do following steps...
[11:00] <manveru> paul__, wich processor do you have?
[11:01] <aftertaf> x2 4000
[11:01] <aftertaf> amd?
[11:01] <paul__> yep 
[11:01] <paul__> x24000
[11:01] <aftertaf> 64bit smp?
[11:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> yep. rofl
[11:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> no drivers for you
[11:01] <paul__> nah i just installed the i386 version
[11:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh, lol. damn :( :-p
[11:02] <aftertaf> paul__:  64 bit processors?
[11:02] <manveru> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-386-nvidia-legacy
[11:03] <manveru> that's what you need, tho i would recommend a k7-kernel at least
[11:03] <paul__> -legacy makes me think its older 
[11:03] <manveru> but not sure how they work with 64
[11:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> what's the vid card?
[11:03] <aftertaf> v7800geforce
[11:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> legacy? wtf you using that for?
[11:04] <paul__> i'm not!
[11:04] <paul__> i just installed the default install thing. 
[11:04] <aftertaf> lol. manveru got his mouse tangled ;)
[11:04] <manveru> i have no mouse...
[11:04] <aftertaf> paul__:  you have a biprocessor PC right?
[11:04] <paul__> where abouts is my 'startx' config?
[11:04] <manveru> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-k7-smp-nvidia-legacy (this one? :)
[11:05] <paul__> yep aftertaf guess you could call it that for the moment anyway 
[11:05] <aftertaf> paul__:  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:06] <paul__> if i rm -rf it will it go through the configuration phase again 
[11:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> wb incubii
[11:06] <aftertaf> we cant see what 64bit kernel packages are around, apt only knows about those for our architecture
[11:06] <incubii> thanks Kamping_Kaiser , how you doin
[11:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> not bad. chilling. yourself mate?
[11:07] <paul__> or is there a command to get back to the gui settings for startx 
[11:07] <aftertaf> paul__:  no dont do that... you can edit your xorg file with nano
[11:07] <aftertaf> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> use dpkg :|
[11:07] <incubii> likewise, just enjoying my day off
[11:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> cool
[11:08] <paul__> aftertaf: i'm not using my cpu as 64 bit, i'm just installing the regular i386 stuff so essentially i'm guessing i'm only currently using 1 of the 2 availible processors but that doesnt worry me 
[11:08] <aftertaf> paul__:  Kamping_Kaiser       First thing i thionk would be to use the "nv" driver to get X up and running, then sort out the nvidia restricted bits later.
[11:08] <incubii> but isnt it always the case, you start your day off, wake up and first thing you get is 15 calls from work about XP machines that wont work
[11:08] <aftertaf> paul__:  which iso did you install from? the 64bit one?
[11:08] <paul__> ner just the i386 non 64 bit.
[11:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> aftertaf: sure, but use dpkg, that's what it's for ;)
[11:09] <aftertaf> paul__:  ahh. i think that might be part of the pb too...... you cant upgrade from 32 to 64 bit
[11:09] <aftertaf> what do you reckokam?
[11:09] <aftertaf> what do you reckon Kamping_Kaiser ?
[11:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> no, you cant upgrade across arches
[11:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> well actualy, i thiunk you can
[11:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> but i havent
[11:10] <aftertaf> not easily. and you can run a 32bit on a 64bit pc no worries?
[11:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> no idea there
[11:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> i asume so
[11:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> IBM make their chips properly :)
[11:12] <paul__> you can 
[11:12] <paul__> i ran windows xp pro without issue
[11:13] <Chousuke> it depends on the processor.
[11:13] <paul__> you just close yourself out of 1/2 the cpu power
[11:13] <Hentai^XP> lol incubii
[11:13] <incubii> you following me now :P
[11:13] <Chousuke> paul__: What CPU does this? :P
[11:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[11:13] <Chousuke> at least AMD's 64 bit processors should be able to run at full speed in 32 bit mode.
[11:14] <Hentai^XP> incubii I been here for a while
[11:14] <Hentai^XP> in here
[11:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> they can Chousuke:|
[11:14] <incubii> fair enough
[11:15] <paul__> whats is the shortcut to get back to the xwindow screen?
[11:17] <Tm_T> phuuh
[11:17] <Tm_T> xorg updating
[11:17] <aftertaf> paul__:  alt+F7
[11:18] <incubii> i should update my laptop, its still running release breezy, lol
[11:18] <aftertaf> paul__:  you could try this : sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[11:18] <manveru> how about a little and effective dexconf?
[11:19] <aftertaf> dexconf? never heard of that... :] 
[11:19] <manveru> have a look at it :)
[11:19] <manveru> it's the thing that builds the configuration
[11:20] <manveru> seems like he got it right...
[11:20] <aftertaf> will it auto reconf my X?
[11:20] <manveru> it will
[11:20] <aftertaf> without asking?
[11:20] <manveru> better make a backup
[11:20] <aftertaf> :] 
[11:20] <aftertaf> oi
[11:20] <manveru> yeap
[11:20] <aftertaf> k
[11:47] <sveri> hi, i even installed apache and apache2 on my system, then i removed apache, and now i cant get apache2 working, i even deleted the config files in /etc/apache2/* and now i cant get them back, removing and reinstalling doesn't help, is there a way to completely remove and reinstall apache2?
[11:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> sudo apt-get --purge remove apache2 && sudo apt-get install appache
[11:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> *apache2
[11:56] <liam> hello
[11:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi
[11:56] <liam> never tried this before
[11:57] <aftertaf> lol
[11:57] <aftertaf> student!
[11:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> heh. yeh
[11:58] <aftertaf> bleedin' stoodents :] 
[11:58] <aftertaf> from t'north of england
[11:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> yay for rammstein
[11:59] <khalif> Hello!
[11:59] <khalif> Morning to all!
[11:59] <aftertaf> mornin ;)
[11:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi mate
[11:59] <aftertaf> rammstein?
[11:59] <aftertaf> german metal?
[12:00] <khalif> I was wondering if someone could help me out for a spot?
[12:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh
[12:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> khalif: maybe ;)
[12:00] <khalif> I'm a total noob to 'nix and I just installed Kubuntu on my ThinkPad.....
[12:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> wd
[12:01] <khalif> I'd really like to change the look of it a bit and I was was wondering if someone might be able to tell me how to install icons and themes....
[12:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> aftertaf: is probably your man
[12:02] <aftertaf> lol
[12:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> i might be able to help with more technical questions
[12:03] <aftertaf> whereas i'm an eyecandy :)
[12:03] <aftertaf> Kamping_Kaiser:  me neither, since dapper. im on e17
[12:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> sure :)
[12:03] <khalif> I know they have to be unpacked and placed in certain folders using the terminal, but I'm not sure which folders to place them in.
[12:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[12:03] <aftertaf> khalif:  does kdelook.org give any clues to that?
[12:03] <manveru> aftertaf, is dapper working nice with the efl-all stuff?
[12:03] <khalif> Not really. :(
[12:03] <aftertaf> no pbs for now manveru but i havent updated it for over 2 months e17
[12:03] <aftertaf> no cvs access here
[12:04] <aftertaf> manveru:  but it works fine
[12:04] <manveru> aftertaf, there are repos for that
[12:04] <aftertaf> manveru:  yeah but are they uptodate?
[12:04] <khalif> I know they have to go in the .kde folder, but beyond that I'm not sure.
[12:04] <aftertaf> !themes
[12:04] <manveru> aftertaf, they are from... today
[12:04] <aftertaf> !kdethemes
[12:04] <aftertaf> manveru:  which repos?
[12:05] <aftertaf>  kdethemes is obtained by installing kdeartwork ("sudo aptitude install kdeartwork"), which will get you some more themes. You can switch themes using the "Appearence & Look" section of your KDE Control Panel (or System Settings). Also see http://www.kde-look.org for additional themes, that can usually only be installed by compiling them manually.
[12:05] <manveru> aftertaf, have a look over at #e
[12:05] <khalif> You guys are going a little too fast for me....
[12:05] <khalif> Could we start over?
[12:06] <khalif> lol!
[12:08] <khalif> Does anyone know which folder icons have to be placed in since most don't come packaged like themes?
[12:10] <manveru>  apt-cache search icon | grep kde
[12:12] <khalif> Ok, confused.... execute "apt-cache" from the terminal and then what?
[12:15] <Hentai^XP> apt-cacje search icon | grep kde
[12:15] <Hentai^XP> all in one go
[12:15] <Hentai^XP> cache
[12:20] <khalif> after the word icon, is that an L or a line or what?
[12:21] <khalif> or a slash
[12:23] <Hentai^XP> its a |
[12:23] <Hentai^XP> above enter
[12:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> pipe
[12:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> it's not always above enter :|
[12:24] <Hentai^XP> troo
[12:24] <khalif> Thanks!
[12:24] <manveru> it's left from the y, to press with alt+gr on a german layout :)(
[12:25] <manveru> german layout is da pain for coding...
[12:25] <khalif> I got a message saying it couldn't stat source package list...
[12:26] <manveru> have you got adept or something else open
[12:26] <manveru> ?
[12:27] <poningru> khalif: try to refresh
[12:27] <poningru> err reload
[12:27] <manveru> update?
[12:27] <khalif> I can open adept. Does using that require an internet connect, cause I don't have the thinkpad hooked up to  connection.
[12:27] <khalif> It doesn't have an ethernet port :(
[12:33] <bdmp_> just testing
[12:36] <bdmp_> can someone just say something, I am comparing xchat and chatzilla (firefox plug in)
[12:37] <khalif> Something! lol!
[12:37] <bdmp_> thanks
[12:37] <khalif> kool!
[12:37] <bdmp_> anyone here use chatzilla firefox plugin?
[12:37] <bdmp_> There is the channel topic window at the top and it is really annoying
[12:38] <manveru> uhm
[12:38] <manveru> well... is this going to be a chat-client-review?
[12:39] <bdmp_> What do you mean? am I going to write a review?
[12:39] <manveru> dunno
[12:39] <manveru> would be cool tho ^^
[12:39] <bdmp_> I have no idea what I am doing. If the goal is too confuse people I would be more than glad.
[12:40] <bdmp_> Give me a couple weeks.
[12:40] <manveru> oh, you've got all time of the universe
[12:40] <bdmp_> I use portable firefox at work I thought I might try it out on that
[12:41] <bdmp_> Anyway, I just installed breezy. woo, it is nice
[12:42] <bdmp_> gotta love that new adept thing
[12:42] <raphink> :)
[12:43] <bdmp_> and did they change something with the repos? I didn't change anything and I am having no problems. In hoary, I had to add a bunch of repos.
[12:44] <bdmp_> one nice thing about this chatzilla is it has a button on the right that changes the input to multi-line input. nice for making paragraphs, I don't think xchat has that function.
[12:47] <bdmp> bdmp_ test
[12:50] <PaRez> have just same problem: looking for IRC client on Ubunto Breezy - at the moment, I try KDE's Konversation
[12:51] <PaRez> it has also no multiline support (or I didn't find it ...)
[12:52] <raphink> konversation is pretty nice imo
[12:52] <raphink> otherwise there's also kvirc
[12:58] <PaRez> :raphink: it is nice, but the
[12:59] <PaRez> multiline support is valuable for formatting issues with longer statements ...
[01:02] <aftertaf> Kamping_Kaiser:  u there?
[01:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> aftertaf: yep
[01:03] <bdmp> I am trying to get firefox to open bittornado when i download. What is the bin file name for the bittorrnado gui?
[01:05] <manveru>  btdownloadgui.bittornado
[01:07] <bdmp> thanks
[01:11] <bdmp> manveru, I looked for that file but it is not there so I think I don't have the gui installed, but when I search bittorrent in adept, I don't see the gui package. I remember there was one in synaptic under hoary
[01:12] <manveru> yeah, there is...
[01:12] <hh2k> Hi.. I just installed KDE 3.5 via .deb packages, now I have some strange panel focus behavior.. anyone else have 3.5 installed ?
[01:12] <manveru> bittorrent-gui or bittornado-gui
[01:12] <manveru> hh2k, welcome to 3.5 ^^
[01:13] <hh2k> manveru: uhm thanks :)
[01:15] <bdmp> manveru, is that a package? both adept and the apt-get install give me nothing.
[01:16] <manveru> do 'apt-cache search torrent'
[01:17] <bdmp> gnome-btdownload?
[01:18] <bdmp> Is there something wrong with my sources.list file?
[01:19] <manveru> most certainly
[01:19] <manveru> !sources
[01:19] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:19] <manveru> take the last one - gives you a shiny new repo-filled sources.list with everything you'll ever need
[01:19] <bdmp> I was looking for that the other day. Thanks
[01:21] <bdmp> I tried gnome-btdownload and it worked. is that ok to use??
[01:22] <raphink> bdmp : why not?
[01:22] <raphink> although ktorrent or qtorrent might be more appropriate for kubuntu
[01:22] <bdmp> cause it is gnome
[01:22] <raphink> well if you're ok with gnome apps that's fine ;)
[01:22] <bdmp> I messed my gnome up once with kde programs
[01:22] <raphink> I'm not ok because I can't bear the way they look ;)
[01:23] <bdmp> i tried qtorrent and I couldn't get it to work right
[01:23] <raphink> well I think it' seasier to mess gnome with KDE apps
[01:23] <raphink> than KDE with gnome apps ;)
[01:23] <manveru> reminds me that i should switch to konversation now...
[01:23] <pspuser> manveru-  Im noo to all this.  could you tell me how to load a repository?  
[01:23] <manveru> !repository
[01:23] <ubotu> manveru: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[01:23] <manveru> !repository
[01:23] <raphink> !repos
[01:23] <ubotu> methinks repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[01:23] <raphink> :)
[01:23] <manveru> oO?
[01:23] <raphink> yeah ;)
[01:23] <manveru> since when?
[01:24] <raphink> I've always seen it there
[01:24] <manveru> ah!
[01:24] <manveru> !repositories
[01:24] <ubotu> from memory, repositories is How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list
[01:24] <manveru> lol
[01:24] <raphink> heh
[01:24] <raphink> repos is more complete ;)
[01:24] <manveru> yeap
[01:24] <raphink> !sources
[01:24] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:24] <manveru> that's my favorite
[01:25] <manveru> !easysource
[01:25] <raphink> ah!
[01:25] <pspuser> Thank you! Im gonna sit back and do some reading for a few minutes.  
[01:25] <ubotu> hmm... easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:26] <raphink> wb manveru 
[01:26] <bdmp> there is a warning about  some of the sources in the auto source list thing, are there any I should not use?
[01:27] <manveru> the backports one
[01:27] <bdmp> k
[01:27] <bdmp> k
[01:27] <bdmp> oops
[01:27] <raphink> well you might use them, but they're more eager to be unstable
[01:28] <raphink> since backports are packages from dapper, built so they can be used in breezy
[01:28] <raphink> hi Hobbsee 
[01:28] <Hobbsee> hey Kamping_Kaiser 
[01:28] <Hobbsee> hey raphink 
[01:29] <Hobbsee> :)
[01:29] <raphink> :)
[01:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[01:29] <bdmp> I know I am dumb, but what is the sources.list location?
[01:29] <Hobbsee>  /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:29] <raphink>  /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:30] <raphink> Hobbsee: ;)
[01:30] <bdmp> ah
[01:30] <Hobbsee> :P
[01:30] <bdmp> like misplacing your glasses on your head
[01:33] <Hobbsee> bdmp: if it makes you feel any better, when i go to edit my grub menu list, i'll often go to sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.lst and wonder why i got a different screen to the one i was expecting :P
[01:35] <bdmp> ha
[01:36] <De[X] tone> hello all
[01:36] <De[X] tone> help me pls
[01:36] <Hobbsee> !anyone
[01:36] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[01:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> if we know your problem we may help
[01:36] <Hobbsee> !ask
[01:36] <Hobbsee> !tell De[X] tone about ask
[01:37] <De[X] tone> thx
[01:37] <De[X] tone> !ask
[01:37] <Hobbsee> bdmp: hehe...i'm not kidding - or i'll go to my breezy menu.list instead of the one that is written to the mbr - the dapper menu.list
[01:38] <bdmp_> Hobbsee: is hobbsee a reference to the last name hobbes?
[01:38] <Hobbsee> bdmp_: no
[01:38] <bdmp_> my cousins are all hobbes so i thought i would ask
[01:39] <Hobbsee> ah ok - no, it isnt, and if you had my full name and looked me up, you still wouldnt find me on the net
[01:39] <djk_> Hobbsee: you sure?
[01:40] <Hobbsee> djk_: fairly, yes, i've never found anything that actually relates to me by my full name
[01:40] <Hobbsee> there's an artist who's done some nice work with paper mache with my full name lol
[01:40] <djk_> lol
[01:40] <De[X] tone> !ask how to get kubuntu by shipping
[01:40] <ubotu> De[X] tone: Are you on ritalin?
[01:40] <djk_> !shipit
[01:40] <ubotu> from memory, shipit is For free ubuntu CDs, visit https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[01:41] <De[X] tone> not ubuntu
[01:41] <djk_> there.
[01:41] <De[X] tone> but kubuntu
[01:41] <Hobbsee> De[X] tone: same place
[01:41] <De[X] tone> oh okay
[01:41] <De[X] tone> thx guys
[01:41] <bdmp_> I didn't realize it was a bot saying are you on ritalin. that is funny stuff
[01:42] <djk_> you must have been on ritalin if you didn't notice :p
[01:43] <bdmp_> once the bot told me something about bread or somehting, and i didn't know what a bot was and I thought some someone was messing with me and I got all mad. ha
[01:43] <djk_> hehe
[01:43] <LeeJunFan> whoop that bot's ass! you can DO IT!
[01:43] <LeeJunFan> :)
[01:43] <bdmp_> and I was on ritalin in high school
[01:44] <bdmp_> then i dropped out. now i am fine.
[01:44] <djk_> eh. good?
[01:44] <De[X] tone> i am new user on linux
[01:45] <bdmp_> well it is funny because it wasn't me it was highschool is boring.
[01:45] <bdmp_> hello De[X] tone 
[01:47] <De[X] tone> can i order the latest kubuntu at shippit.ubuntu.com?
[01:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> De[X] tone: no
[01:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> only ubuntu
[01:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> Kubuntu is roumered to be shipping for dapper
[01:50] <De[X] tone> Kamping_Kaiser : what do u mean for "dapper" ?
[01:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> De[X] tone: the next ubuntu
[01:50] <De[X] tone> oh great
[01:51] <De[X] tone> Kamping_Kaiser : can i install the lates KDE 3.5 into my ubuntu 5.10
[01:51] <De[X] tone> any url tutorials for me ?
[01:51] <djk_> !kde3.5
[01:51] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, kde3.5 is http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[01:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> beat me djk_ ;)
[01:52] <djk_> yay. I'm the man, the MAN :p
[01:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> heh
[01:53] <hh2k> yea install 3.5, i would like to hear whats happening to your panel after that 
[01:54] <De[X] tone> whats wrong with the panel then ?
[01:55] <Hobbsee> got no idea, my panel's working fine
[01:55] <hh2k> well i have auto hide on and can only get it up in the one side under the kmenu button
[01:56] <Hobbsee> hh2k: i think you'll find that there's an option for that...
[01:56] <Hobbsee> er, ok, mine's coming up from both sides
[01:56] <hh2k> Hobbsee: then it's something new it worked fine in 3.4... can you get focus in the middle etc ?
[01:57] <Hobbsee> yep
[01:57] <Hobbsee> but i went from beta1 --> rc1 --> rc2 --> final
[01:57] <bdmp> I am using ktorrent for the first time and it lets you set one port to use. Bittornado lets you set a max port and min port, making a range.What port does ktorrent use if you are using more than one torrent?
[01:58] <hh2k> Hobbsee: hmm ok strange.. though i had none of the rc's installed it should work the same i would think
[01:58] <Hobbsee> should do
[01:58] <manveru> bdmp: try it and sniff the traffic with ethereal
[01:59] <bdmp> is that a program ethereal?
[01:59] <djk_> manveru: shouldn't it be the port he set in ktorrent..
[01:59] <djk_> bdmp: yes
[01:59] <manveru> it should :)
[01:59] <manveru> but one can never trust software
[01:59] <djk_> manveru: especially not opensource...
[01:59] <manveru> exactly ^^
[02:00] <djk_> manveru: and that's why you use another program to check on the program..woot?
[02:00] <bdmp> but you can only set one port.
[02:00] <bdmp> what if I am using 2 torrents?
[02:00] <manveru> djk_: i can sniff ethereal as well - using yet another program...
[02:01] <manveru> but hell, how do i check the kernel?
[02:01] <Hobbsee> uname -r?
[02:01] <manveru> and this gives me superior superiority over the kernel? oO
[02:01] <Hobbsee> what did you want to know?  what kernel you're running?
[02:02] <manveru> uhm no
[02:02] <djk_> bdmp: so what? http uses 80,...you think multiple porn sites care about which port they go through
[02:02] <manveru> i would cat /proc/version for that
[02:02] <Hobbsee> ah, sorry...
[02:02] <bdmp> ha
[02:03] <bdmp> its not that simple
[02:03] <bdmp> porn is very complicated
[02:03] <bdmp> ha
[02:03] <morrow> +
[02:08] <Hobbsee> night all...
[02:12] <aftertaf> surf the split :)
[02:13] <manveru> wb ubotu
[02:18] <freeflying> anyone have experience of installing kubutu on ppc
[02:19] <ziad> i wont to reset the password for root please help me
[02:20] <ziad> i dont remember it
[02:20] <ziad> i wnt to go to run level 1
[02:20] <ziad> how
[02:20] <ziad> help me please
[02:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> why do you want to enable root?
[02:21] <_mindspin> do you have physical access?
[02:21] <manveru> ubotu: tell ziad about root
[02:22] <_mindspin> !root
[02:22] <ubotu> hmm... root is rumour has it, that root is disabled in Ubuntu, actually this means there is no password set for the root account, use sudo when you need admin access, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[02:22] <carsten> hi
[02:22] <ziad> thank you
[02:24] <BigKahuna> when launching an application (MOTV) i get en error saying a library does not exist (
[02:24] <BigKahuna> libXm.so.3) but I can see the library in /usr/XR11R6/lib. Any ideas?
[02:26] <BigKahuna> carstenb, make up your mind ;-)
[02:37] <carstenb> re
[02:37] <BigKahuna> your nick
[02:37] <carstenb> BigKahuna, whats with my nick?
[02:38] <BigKahuna> nothing, forget it.
[02:38] <carstenb> ok
[02:38] <carstenb> how are you?
[02:38] <BigKahuna> tired...
[02:38] <BigKahuna> u?
[02:39] <carstenb> fine
[02:39] <carstenb> Im from germany
[02:39] <BigKahuna> I
[02:39] <BigKahuna> I'm from England but currently in Singapore.
[02:40] <BigKahuna> get ready for the world cup?
[02:40] <djk_> good one BigKahuna. you know ze germans will lose :p
[02:40] <carstenb> yes
[02:40] <carstenb> haha
[02:41] <carstenb> the german will win :)
[02:42] <BigKahuna> well if Englands qualifying matches are anything to go bye, you wont get much hassle from us.
[02:42] <djk_> not with that defense, that useless ballack, that useless and overrated schweinsteiger, that extremely useless, overrated and annoying podolski.... need i say more?
[02:42] <djk_> BigKahuna: have you seen any of the german matches?
[02:43] <djk_> celebrating a victory over south africa like there's no tomorrow..ffs.. that's like premier league vs 4th division..
[02:43] <BigKahuna> they are the hosts I didnt think they had to play any qualifiers?
[02:43] <djk_> albeit i'm not sure which one would be premier league :p
[02:44] <MenZa`> Fuball :o
[02:44] <djk_> BigKahuna: no they didn't.. but they're playing for the fun of it..
[02:44] <MenZa`> Foozball :o
[02:44] <djk_> BigKahuna: or better, to prepare...
[02:44] <djk_> MenZa`: yep, footy :)
[02:44] <MenZa`> Bah, real men practice martial arts
[02:44] <MenZa`> like me :o
[02:45] <BigKahuna> MenZa`, you prance around in your pyjamas?
[02:45] <MenZa`> :\
[02:45] <_mindspin> I f you wanna have a ticket you have to strip blank first, 
[02:45] <_mindspin> giving all Informations to get identified
[02:46] <djk_> _mindspin: you going to any matches?
[02:46] <_mindspin> nope, no chance to get tickets
[02:46] <_mindspin> they are mostly given to sponsors
[02:48] <_mindspin> and if you wanna get enlisted for tickets you have to give them when with whom all their IDs and so on...
[02:48] <carstenb> the whole world wants tickets... but nobody have one
[02:48] <_mindspin> cocacola has, budweiser, hyubdai
[02:49] <_mindspin> btw. did you all upgrade to breezy?
[02:49] <BigKahuna> carstenb, are you building a new stadium?
[02:49] <djk_> i certainly don't want tickets. much better in front of a tv
[02:49] <_mindspin> I am still on hoarey
[02:49] <carstenb> BigKahuna, no
[02:49] <BigKahuna> carstenb, figures, tight-ass germans ;)
[02:49] <_mindspin> It would have been a nice expetience for my son
[02:50] <djk_> _mindspin: bring him to a St.Pauli game then ;)
[02:50] <_mindspin> we go to kickers offenbach, kinda similiar
[02:50] <djk_> :)
[02:51] <_mindspin> hamburg is too far awy from us
[02:51] <BigKahuna> Your all germans?
[02:51] <djk_> how dare you say something like that BigKahuna 
[02:51] <_mindspin> although I was an a lot of matches when they#ve been in league one and two ( St.Pauli)
[02:51] <djk_> yes..
[02:52] <_mindspin> hehe
[02:52] <_mindspin> back to topic, is the /media /hal thing fixed yet?
[02:53] <BigKahuna> when launching an application (MOTV) i get en error saying a library does not exist...
[02:53] <_mindspin> and I still have troubles with sound (atrsd) on my testing system which runs kde3.5pre
[02:53] <BigKahuna> libXm.so.3 - but I can see the library in /usr/XR11R6/lib. Any ideas?
[02:54] <_mindspin> I've read it but i have no idea maybe permission issue?
[02:55] <_mindspin> but it sounds more like a dependency problem
[02:55] <_mindspin> did xou get the app from the repos?
[02:55] <BigKahuna> I just used apt
[02:55] <carstenb> BigKahuna, befor we Englishman leave into the stadium, we destroy it selfe
[02:56] <djk_> BigKahuna: that's motif3 isn't it?
[02:56] <_mindspin> british footbal is the best I have say
[02:56] <_mindspin> to
[02:56] <djk_> womens footy is the best :)
[02:56] <BigKahuna> carstenb, It depends if we get beat and how drunk we are.
[02:57] <BigKahuna> djk_, just a shame they dont swap shirts at the end of the game, right?
[02:57] <_mindspin> most of them don#t care about men
[02:58] <djk_> BigKahuna: hehe, yea, but one took her shirt off during the EC in england this year :)
[02:58] <_mindspin> does anyone of you use the sshfs
[02:59] <BigKahuna> djk_, motif3?
[02:59] <manveru> _mindspin: me
[02:59] <djk_> BigKahuna: yes
[02:59] <carstenb> kommt hier noch jemand aus deutschland?
[02:59] <BigKahuna> djk_, that will fix my library problem?
[02:59] <_mindspin> manveru: does file locking work ?
[02:59] <aftertaf> wooooo :)
[02:59] <djk_> BigKahuna: try copying the libXm.so.3 to /usr/lib
[03:00] <manveru> _mindspin: dunno? how do i lock them?
[03:00] <ziad> what is packege name for gaim
[03:00] <manveru> !info gaim
[03:00] <_mindspin> is there any file locking inplemented, as for to say, two users open files in the same folder on the remote drive
[03:01] <manveru> _mindspin: no - who first saves will be overwritten
[03:01] <djk_> BigKahuna: i had a problem with opera 8.50 not detecting libXm although it is there, after copying it to /usr/lib there were no "not detected motif" messages anymore.
[03:01] <manveru> _mindspin: afaik - i'm only sharing it with me, myself and manveru
[03:02] <manveru> oO
[03:02] <BigKahuna> djk_, Nice one, it's working.
[03:02] <djk_> BigKahuna: :)
[03:02] <BigKahuna> djk_, Cheers.
[03:02] <djk_> sure thing :)
[03:05] <aftertaf> !funky
[03:06] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, funky is Get up,  (git awn up),   Get up,  (git awn up),  Stay on the scene (git awn up)..... like an ubuntu machine,  (git awn up). yeah granddaddy of funk :] 
[03:06] <Tm_T> ubotu: howare you?
[03:06] <ubotu> Tm_T: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[03:07] <Tm_T> I can type
[03:07] <Tm_T> ubotu: how are you?
[03:07] <ubotu> Tm_T: peachy
[03:07] <Tm_T> uh, good
[03:07] <kkathman> please dont play with the bot
[03:07] <Tm_T> who's playing?
[03:08] <seth_k|away> Tm_T is just making sure ubotu feels loved
[03:08] <seth_k|away> by giving it the time of day
[03:08] <kkathman> I saw Tm_T give someone a bad time the other day because they were doing what he just did :)
[03:08] <seth_k|away> haha
[03:08] <Tm_T> kkathman: haha, true
[03:08] <Tm_T> kkathman: I don't do it all day ong ;)
[03:09] <Tm_T> +l
[03:09] <l3m> !l3m
[03:09] <ubotu> methinks l3m is just great
[03:09] <l3m> hrhr
[03:09] <kkathman> I have to be careful tho, Tm_T will kick me out now that he's an op
[03:09] <Tm_T> I'm not
[03:09] <seth_k|away> but I am
[03:10] <aftertaf> well done seth_k|away  :)
[03:10] <seth_k|away> fear me
[03:10] <seth_k|away> :P
[03:10] <kkathman> yes you are, Riddell made you one the other day dude
[03:10] <seth_k|away> oy
[03:10] <seth_k|away> [08:10]  [Notice]  -ChanServ- 13  20    Tm_T                                5m 45s
[03:10] <Tm_T> I'm not!
[03:10] <Tm_T> ;)
[03:11] <seth_k|away> see all the people who left b/c they were afraid of Tm_T with op powers?
[03:11] <seth_k|away> :P
[03:11] <Tm_T> yu
[03:11] <aftertaf> lol
[03:11] <aftertaf> !funky
[03:11] <aftertaf> !funky
[03:11] <Tm_T> aseigo: sir, you don't have to fear me
[03:11] <ubotu> aftertaf: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[03:11] <Tm_T> whopsie
[03:12] <Tm_T> I should get some caffeine
[03:13] <seth_k|away> jah, all new ops have to spend 72 hours straight in the channel giving support
[03:13] <seth_k|away> you'll need LOTS of caffeine
[03:18] <Tm_T> seth_k|away: uhm, I never give any support here ;)
[03:19] <manveru> Tm_T: so you're basically idling around and looking serious?
[03:19] <Tm_T> manveru: serious and old
[03:19] <seth_k|away> and drinking caffeinated beverages
[03:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol. yeh. that's Tm_T
[03:20] <manveru> hmm, caffein.... *disappears*
[03:20] <Tm_T> you wan't my soul? give me 100kg of coffee beans and 250l coca-cola/dr.pepper
[03:21] <Tm_T> and I might discuss about my soul ;)
[03:21] <Tm_T> Kamping_Kaiser: you know, it's hard to look old and crumpy all day long, even in age of mine
[03:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol. we all have to work somehow ;)
[03:22] <Tm_T> aye
[03:23] <seth_k|away> eep, class
[03:33] <_rysiek> hi all
[03:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi 
[03:34] <_rysiek> any idea how to fix the media bug?
[03:34] <_rysiek> i've been out of town for a week - did any fix come up?
[03:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> kde3.5? no, not that i know of
[03:35] <_rysiek> nope, KDE3.4.3
[03:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> not sure
[03:36] <_rysiek> the thing with disk devices (cdroms, usb sticks, nfs drives, etc) not being added to media:/
[03:36] <_rysiek> ok then, does anybody have an idea where are any conf files for that feature and what are their names?
[03:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> check your up to date
[03:36] <_rysiek> done a quick google search, didn't find anything
[03:37] <_rysiek> I've just done apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, I am up-to-date
[03:57] <Kyaneos> hi
[03:57] <jazwec> hi..please..i have to run a file *.COM
[03:57] <jazwec> how can i do that?
[03:58] <jazwec> will wine make it?
[03:58] <jazwec> will wine make it?
[03:58] <jazwec> sorry for double posting
[03:58] <Kaiser_Sleeps> er. com? wtf for?
[03:58] <Kaiser_Sleeps> try wine
[03:58] <jazwec> its crack
[03:58] <Kaiser_Sleeps> rofl.
[03:58] <Kaiser_Sleeps> try wine
[03:59] <jazwec> but my wine is quite strange..nothing is doing when i type wine /path/
[04:07] <manveru> jazwec: did you set it up?
[04:07] <jazwec> manveru oh..do i have to? :)
[04:08] <manveru> uhm - i didn't use it for some years now - but i'm almost sure you have to
[04:12] <jazwec> manveru how?
[04:14] <manveru> hmm
[04:15] <manveru> !wine
[04:15] <manveru> ubotu: tell jazwec about wine
[04:19] <bretzel> Wow! KDE3.5 is amazingly faster than previous versions !
[04:20] <jazwec> bretzel could you update it without loosing your data?
[04:20] <bretzel> Fonts rendering are also now very clear and much nicer!
[04:21] <bretzel> Actually the only hints I have is that in 3.4.3 I had yakuake loaded at startup and then it is again loading in 3.5 after the upgrade
[04:21] <bretzel> I have to say I am using Ubuntu with kubuntu repo loaded and upgraded through synaptic.
[04:23] <jazwec> bretzel and how can you upgrade your kde
[04:24] <bretzel> jazwec : Are you also using Ubuntu ?
[04:25] <jazwec> bretzel kubuntu
[04:25] <bretzel> Hey wow! Fonts are really good here now!
[04:26] <bretzel> jazwec ??
[04:31] <jazwec> bretzel im using kubuntu but i have older version of kde..i have 3.4.3
[04:33] <bretzel> jazwec Why don't you just upgrade to 3.5 ? goto kubuntu.org and follow the simple steps ( editing your apt-get sources.list ) and do apt-get update then apt-get upgrade ( under sudo of course )
[04:33] <BigKahuna> how to kill a process from cli using process name not PID?
[04:34] <bretzel> BigKahuna: killall -9 [process-name]  ??
[05:07] <angasule> hmm, I can't switch tabs in konqueror with the keyboard, and the google search bar doesn't work, any idea why? It happened before, the next window I open will work, but it's annoying
[06:05] <_root> hi
[06:05] <_root> is this the help channel ?
[06:06] <jjesse> yes _root 
[06:06] <_root> oky
[06:06] <_root> my friend has instaled kubuntu 5.10
[06:06] <_root> and when the instalation is completed
[06:07] <_root> he cant get to grub
[06:07] <_root> he gets an error
[06:07] <_root> grub error 17
[06:07] <frank23> kde 3.5 is released. Are there still annoying bugs? like artsd crashing like before?
[06:07] <_root> i'we searched google for help
[06:07] <_root> but nothink....
[06:07] <jjesse> frank23: i use kde3.5 w/o issues
[06:08] <frank23> jjesse: none at all?
[06:08] <_root> he has just one hard disk
[06:08] <jjesse> frank23: yes none at all, it works quite well on my dell laptop
[06:08] <_root> and in bios the first boot option is hdd0
[06:08] <angasule> _root: does he have any other OS in that computer? or just kubuntu?
[06:08] <frank23> jjesse: great! I'll install it later on
[06:08] <_root> yes, winXP
[06:10] <angasule> I really don't know how to diagnose grub problems without being in front of the pc, sorry :? plus I'm new to kubuntu, I don't know what their magic dust does
[06:10] <_root> oky TY
[06:11] <_root> but have u any suggestion
[06:12] <angasule> hmm, I found what error 17 means: This error is returned if the partition requested exists, but the filesystem type cannot be recognized by GRUB. 
[06:12] <angasule> is the hard disk SCSI?
[06:13] <davorm> SCSI ? ( what means that )
[06:15] <angasule> nevermind, you probably don't
[06:15] <davorm> amm, tell me...
[06:15] <davorm> i'm not such a n00b...
[06:15] <angasule> it's a fancy kind of hard disk
[06:15] <davorm> :D
[06:15] <angasule> home users have IDE, usually
[06:15] <davorm> yes
[06:16] <davorm> servers have SCSI
[06:16] <davorm> ?
[06:16] <angasule> yes
[06:16] <th3l4sts4mur41> !udev
[06:16] <ubotu> methinks udev is a server used in Ubuntu (and other distros) that manages device nodes
[06:16] <_zajacslv> hi - after installing loki_games - i cannot make changes in menu - Please Help
[06:16] <angasule> so, I can't really help you, I don't know enough
[06:16] <davorm> oky ty 
[06:16] <angasule> you're welcome, sorry I wasn't of much use
[06:16] <th3l4sts4mur41> qualche italiano online ?
[06:17] <angasule> io sono argentino :)
[06:17] <th3l4sts4mur41> la patria del pibe de oro :)
[06:17] <judgeeye> hi guys - i'm an debian convert and trying my first steps in ubuntu - but I have a problem installing kde:
[06:17] <judgeeye>   kubuntu-desktop: Depends: kamera but it is not going to be installed
[06:18] <judgeeye> can you help me?
[06:18] <angasule> hehe si
[06:18] <judgeeye> i am trying: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:19] <th3l4sts4mur41> angasule --> secondo te conviene installare su kubuntu il gdesklets ?
[06:20] <angasule> th3l4sts4mur41: io non parlo italiano :)
[06:20] <th3l4sts4mur41> angasule: io parlo poco lo spagnolo :-)
[06:21] <raphink> angasule: not so bad for someone who doesn't speak italian ;)
[06:21] <angasule> judgeeye: why would it mention kamera? it's not a kde base package or anything, weird
[06:21] <raphink> th3l4sts4mur41: ci parli l'inglese per favore
[06:21] <angasule> raphink: I'm half italian, like most of argentina, and I'm getting my italian citizenship soonish
[06:22] <raphink> oh ok :)
[06:23] <angasule> I should really learn italian, hmm
[06:30] <laszlok> is there any way to renew the nic without doing sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0?
[06:31] <regeya_> !english
[06:31] <ubotu> regeya_: What?
[06:31] <_sara> hey
[06:31] <regeya_> hm.
[06:31] <regeya_> ubotu, no, engrish is http://engrish.com
[06:31] <ubotu> regeya_: okay
[06:32] <regeya_> w00t
[06:32] <regeya_> !engrish
[06:32] <ubotu> from memory, engrish is http://engrish.com
[06:32] <_sara> has anyone beign able to install themes with the new superkaramba?
[06:33] <laszlok> _sara: yes, what version of kde?
[06:34] <_sara> kde 3.5
[06:34] <laszlok> k then yes i have and i seems to work fine
[06:35] <_sara> how you do it. I tried installing liquid wheather from get new stuff and no lick
[06:35] <_sara> luck no lick
[06:36] <laszlok> did it give an error?
[06:36] <_sara> could not rename partial file /tmp/kde-sara
[06:37] <_sara> please check permissions
[06:37] <laszlok> okay its giving me the same thing
[06:37] <laszlok> i think last time i install liquid wheather i downloaded it straight from the site
[06:38] <_sara> I already chek permission and I am the owner and can write and modify
[06:38] <_sara> I also tried dowloading it from the website but I get a kate seesion with weird characters
[06:39] <laszlok> http://liquidweather.net/downloads.html
[06:39] <laszlok> right click --> save as
[06:39] <laszlok> so it wont open in kate
[06:40] <_sara> ok i'll try
[06:40] <_sara> I have a save link as is that the same
[06:41] <laszlok> ya thats the one
[06:42] <_sara> yeap it works now, thank you. I still wonder why the other way doesn't work
[06:43] <laszlok> the kgetnewhotstuff still has some bugs i think
[06:43] <_sara> ohh thank you again
[06:43] <laszlok> so hows the weather?
[06:45] <_sara> waiting for  to  a foot of snow
[06:46] <laszlok> ya me too, i should be going to class but i dont want to venture outside
[06:47] <_sara> too sick to go to school today hopefully with the snow I have a better excuse
[06:47] <davorm> hi, is there any key or simbol to auto complite the name of a file when u wont to open or do a command in shell
[06:47] <laszlok> well i have to jet, or ill be late
[06:48] <sampan> davorm, the <tab> key
[06:48] <laszlok> davorm: tab
[06:48] <davorm> oky ty
[06:48] <davorm> :O
[06:48] <davorm> nice really ty
[07:16] <pinguino> hi all
[07:16] <pinguino> little problem post installation, Can anyone help me?
[07:18] <pinguino> the installation went good, but after rebooting i see only a frozen psichedelyc screen and the mouse arrow... tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but nothing... any hint?
[07:18] <pinguino> (please.... :-)
[07:28] <pussfeller> someone tell me what happens when you click on a link in a kde app.. does konq open the webstite, or do you get a text file downloaded into /var/tmp/kdecache ?
[07:29] <pussfeller> like in konversation
[07:29] <pussfeller> everytime I click a link, i am getting a text file, this is driving me nuts
[07:29] <libben> I wanna reinstall XP on my other drive, and its where grub is located also and mbr. what should i do? reinstall xp as usual? boot with kubuntu livecd after that and then overwrite the mbr with grub-install ?
[07:30] <djk_> pussfeller: i've set konversation to open the link in opera..
[07:30] <djk_> libben: pretty much yes.
[07:30] <libben> pussfeller: check ur options
[07:30] <djk_> libben: although you can also use the install cd to reinstall grub..
[07:30] <pussfeller> i have been looking thru options, but i see nothing
[07:31] <djk_> pussfeller: bevaiour -general, somewhere around there.
[07:31] <djk_> behaviour*
[07:32] <libben> djk_: isnt that a messy way? i mean, go thru partioning and all that. 
[07:32] <libben> but ill take it i can get help when im done with windowsxp install, and get back here.
[07:33] <djk_> libben: not really.. i guess it doesn't matter, but i wouldn't say messy ;)
[07:33] <pussfeller> djk_: this is a kde prob, not application specific
[07:33] <pussfeller> it does it in all kde apps
[07:33] <pussfeller> i assume the file associations are somehow set wrong
[07:35] <djk_> pussfeller: ah, misunderstood you then.
[07:36] <pussfeller> djk_: but do you get what I am saying, instead of the webpage itself, from the internet, I get a text copy opened up in a temp cache
[07:36] <pussfeller> do you get that?
[07:36] <libben> can i do the installation thing, without reformating the hds ?
[07:36] <djk_> pussfeller: yea i get it now. mmh, weird
[07:36] <djk_> libben: yes.
[07:37] <pussfeller> this is annoying as heck
[07:37] <pussfeller> its been like this thru 3 upgrade
[07:38] <lordpatman> hi
[07:39] <slow-motion> hallo
[07:40] <djk_> hi
[07:44] <pussfeller> hah, i fixed it, the file association was konqueror insteead of kfmclient openURL %u text/html
[07:44] <pussfeller> 1 annoyance down, 3 million to go
[07:46] <Kraftstoff> hi. is it any page in wiki where I can find information about setting "Ctrl+Alt" as keyboard switcher in KDE? :)
[08:09] <_stefan> hallo allemaal
[08:09] <_stefan> zijn hier nederlanders?
[08:09] <_stefan> hello
[08:10] <_stefan> is there someone who can help me please?
[08:10] <Stele> depends on the question i  guess
[08:10] <Stele> for example, we probably can't help you with a heart transplant
[08:11] <_stefan> i whas traying to upgrade my KDE to the latest version so i add a mirror to apt and it whas wrom and now i cannot open apt anymore can you help me ?
[08:11] <Stele> I can't but maybe someone else here can
[08:11] <EauTisse> guys, I'd like to create a KDE desktop "template" kit for setting new user accounts up on a Ubuntu box ... what files do I need to copy ?
[08:12] <Riddell> EauTisse: /etc/skel
[08:12] <_stefan> please yust help me with it
[08:12] <EauTisse> ah, ok, thanks
[08:13] <_stefan> what can i do to reset my apt server list?
[08:13] <hunika> raphink: Hello
[08:13] <_stefan> hi
[08:14] <_stefan> hello someone there to help me?>
[08:16] <_stefan> please???????????????
[08:18] <_stefan> hello anyone?
[08:20] <gerst> hi
[08:20] <_stefan> can you please help me 
[08:20] <gerst> i could try..
[08:20] <_stefan> my adept server list is failed i cannot start adept anymore
[08:23] <gerst> apt-get works in console?
[08:23] <_stefan> yes
[08:23] <_stefan> but i dont know how
[08:23] <gerst> use that :D
[08:23] <_stefan> no please help i am a beginner user
[08:24] <gerst> me too :D
[08:24] <gerst> so.. sorry
[08:24] <gerst> im new to ubuntu
[08:24] <gerst> i was a suse user
[08:24] <_stefan> me to
[08:24] <_stefan> do you know how to configure update server list?
[08:25] <gerst> etc/apt/sources.list
[08:25] <_stefan> ja vanuit console?
[08:26] <gerst> use mcedit or whatever editor U like
[08:26] <gerst> you have to be root for this
[08:26] <_stefan> ok
[08:27] <_stefan> heb jij het bestand niet meer?
[08:27] <gerst> what?
[08:27] <_stefan> kan ik hem namelijk gewoon vervangen 
[08:27] <_stefan> oh sorry
[08:27] <_stefan> do you have the .list file for me ?
[08:27] <_stefan> so i can yust replace it
[08:28] <gerst> i will paste it to you in private ok?
[08:28] <_stefan> ok
[08:28] <_stefan> thanks
[08:29] <_stefan> ah cannot send must register before private can be use
[08:29] <_stefan> can you send it bij mail?
[08:29] <manveru> http://rafb.net/paste
[08:29] <_stefan> ok
[08:29] <_stefan> wat is this?
[08:30] <manveru> this wonderful page is called pastebin
[08:30] <manveru> you can take text - paste it and write the url of it here
[08:30] <gerst> I cant.. `cos Im not registred user..
[08:30] <gerst> wait
[08:30] <gerst> here is the list.. http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-77699.html
[08:30] <_stefan> ok
[08:30] <manveru> oO
[08:30] <manveru> was only a hint... they are really useful
[08:30] <_stefan> wich one
[08:31] <_stefan> thanks 
[08:31] <_stefan> wich one must i have 
[08:31] <gerst> manveru good site
[08:32] <gerst> http://rafb.net/paste/results/Xg5BFl28.html
[08:32] <_stefan> thanks
[08:32] <_stefan> please wait i am going to past it
[08:34] <_stefan> oke i whant to past it and save but i cant save i am not a root user i have no root pasword 
[08:34] <_stefan> its not visible
[08:34] <gerst> ?
[08:35] <_stefan> hih yes i am normal user but havent made a root user is there normaly one made?
[08:37] <gerst> than user sudo mcedit...
[08:37] <_stefan> what is the defould root password
[08:37] <gerst> user
[08:37] <laszlok> _stefan: what happened to it?
[08:37] <gerst> there is no default root psw
[08:37] <_stefan> ok
[08:37] <gerst> user=use
[08:37] <gerst> :D
[08:38] <_stefan> i cannot open the editor
[08:38] <gerst> or sudo passwd root
[08:38] <gerst> and make a root psw
[08:39] <_stefan> oke have a root password
[08:39] <douglas> Is there any programs comparable to audacity but using the kde/qt interface?
[08:41] <_stefan> oke managed
[08:41] <_stefan> i am going to test it
[08:41] <_stefan> yes yes yes thanks for good help
[08:42] <_stefan> its resolved
[08:42] <Stele> see i told you someone could help you
[08:42] <_stefan> oke can you allso help me to upgragde to kde 3.5
[08:42] <_stefan> thanks
[08:43] <_stefan> how do i upgrade my KDE to 3.5
[08:44] <_martin> Read www.kubuntu.org for info on upgrade to 3.5
[08:45] <_stefan> thanks guys must leave now see ya later
[08:50] <gerst> is there an easy way to share an internet connection?
[08:50] <lordpatman> cu
[08:51] <ClayG> dial up or broadband?
[08:51] <ClayG> gerst: 
[08:52] <ClayG> I am hoping broadband, that just seemed like a dial up question
[08:52] <ClayG> if broadband, spend 20-30 bucks and buy a router from walmart
[08:53] <gerst> wireless
[08:53] <gerst> over pppoe
[08:53] <ClayG> does your wireless have little holes in the back that look like they are shaped like a big phone cord?
[08:54] <ClayG> you have to find the cords that look like "big phone cords" and match them to holes
[09:02] <jaro> hey you guys
[09:03] <jaro> hmm... i've got a new Router
[09:03] <jaro> will it work for Linux too ?
[09:03] <jaro> i mean despite the fact it says winxp on the box
[09:04] <jaro> its a D-Link 4-Port Ethernet Broadband Router
[09:04] <pussfeller> yes
[09:04] <hugelmopf> jaro: if it is a normal router, there should not be any problems.
[09:04] <kkathman> puttin Windows XP on the box is just a marketing gimmick
[09:04] <pussfeller> its kinda dumb to put it on a router
[09:05] <kkathman> if they put Linux on the box...kinda dumb
[09:05] <pussfeller> or at least, not put linux on the box, if you going to use something as redundant as an xp symbol
[09:05] <kkathman> pussfeller: well not really...its marketing
[09:05] <pussfeller> i get ya
[09:05] <kkathman> hehe
[09:06] <kkathman> if a person doesnt really know and they see one that says Windows XP and another says nothing, or Linux...they'll buy the winxp
[09:06] <kkathman> hehe
[09:06] <hugelmopf> anybody of you experienced in network settings? i seem to have something messed up with my DNS settings, which makes konqueror load pages very slowly.
[09:06] <kkathman> hugelmopf: are you dhcp?
[09:06] <hugelmopf> yes
[09:07] <jaro> hmm great guys
[09:07] <pussfeller> i bought a usb hd and they said windows and mac on it
[09:07] <kkathman> the network should get your DNS automatically then
[09:07] <kkathman> could be that the DNS server it got is just yukky
[09:07] <kkathman> you might try resetting your modem
[09:07] <pussfeller> and i had to stop and consider, is this one touch drive some sort of whack nut porduct that needs windows to work
[09:07] <jaro> ... but the thing is when I loaded 192.168.0.1 with my browser nothing happend, whereas on the other computer with winxp a loginbox came up
[09:08] <hugelmopf> kkathman: that's what i thought. i did the kubuntu-installation at university, and now i saw the university domain showing up in /etc/resolv.conf (as "search") even though i am connected to my own dhcp-router here, so that doesn't seem right to me.
[09:08] <pussfeller> well, jaro, its possible the routers webinterface uses activex controls to work
[09:08] <pussfeller> but that wont stop the router from working right once its configured
[09:09] <hugelmopf> jaro: maybe more likely is that you have not setup your network on kubuntu yet?
[09:09] <pussfeller> yeah what he said
[09:09] <jaro> i had set it up with a static ip adress
[09:09] <hugelmopf> jaro: then set it up as DHCP now
[09:09] <jaro> maybe i would then have to change to dhcp ?
[09:09] <jaro> hm ok... i must do that later.. 
[09:09] <jaro> otherwise i wouldnt be able to chat ^^
[09:10] <jaro> thanks for helping
[09:10] <hugelmopf> jaro: np. do you know/figure out yourself, where to change it?
[09:10] <jaro> hmm 
[09:10] <jaro> sure
[09:10] <jaro> but
[09:10] <pussfeller> so should i use ubuntu-server on my fileserver/gateway, or install freebsd on it
[09:11] <pussfeller> i dont want no gui
[09:11] <jaro> i had some kind of exp. with kubuntu now, which means, whenever I set the NetworkConfig with the ControlCenter, it didnt work.So i had to set it with a shell.
[09:11] <hugelmopf> pussfeller: you are in the wrong channel for an unbiased answer to that question ;-)
[09:11] <pussfeller> not really.. i wanna know if anyone has tried ubuntu server and found it to be good, bad, what
[09:11] <jaro> the control center always forgot to add the Gateway to /etc/network/interfaces
[09:12] <pussfeller> does it need x to work?
[09:12] <hugelmopf> jaro: GUI tools might not be good, I am not using them. it should be easiest to edit /etc/network/interfaces itself
[09:12] <pussfeller> i suppose x wouldnt kill me, it would just be slow
[09:12] <jaro> hugelmopf:  hm yea, but i thought it would be some kind of bug... because the networkinterface itself is really nice
[09:17] <Slyder0244> my kubuntu is broken anyone think they can help me out
[09:19] <hugelmopf> Slyder: are there more details coming?
[09:19] <Slyder0244> yea i was waiting to see if anyone was around
[09:19] <Slyder0244> i can't boot into kde i just get a command prompt for logging in and then no gui
[09:19] <mixi> !transparenci
[09:19] <ubotu> mixi: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[09:19] <Slyder0244> i think it's from where i tried to install a kdm theme 
[09:21] <hugelmopf> Slyder: if you login and issue "/etc/init.d/kdm restart" and look at the messages, if it fails, does that give you any hints?
[09:21] <hugelmopf> sorry, "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"
[09:22] <Slyder0244> well i'll reboot and try 
[09:23] <Oti1> what's a good set of groups to register a new user account under if I want to make the account "idiot-proof" ?
[09:23] <Oti1> there's "user", of course ...
[09:24] <angasule> idiots are too clever
[09:24] <Oti1> are there somet groups that are "nested" in others, i.e. does "user" cover other groups too ?
[09:24] <Oti1> angasule: haha, yeah
[09:27] <angasule> no, there's no nesting
[09:27] <angasule> each file has permissions for the owner, the group and the rest
[09:28] <angasule> hmm, I'm taking screenshots of kubuntu to show to some friends, but I can't find good hamster porn
[09:29] <Oti1> angasule: so if a user is not admin, they have to belong to a whole list of groups such as "audio", "cdrom" etc ?
[09:29] <Oti1> .... in order to use the cdrom or the sound card ?
[09:30] <Slyder0244> well i tried that hugelmopf
[09:30] <Slyder0244> all it did was say kdm is stopping and then starting and nothing happened
[09:31] <angasule> Oti1: yeah, unless everybody is allowed to use them, or a program run by a user that has access (like root) let's other use that resource
[09:31] <angasule> and my grammar is no good today heh sorry about that
[09:32] <hugelmopf> Slyder: then you'll have to consider your change again. it worked before some change, right?
[09:33] <bam_> anyone know how to make a certian program be the default open for a particular file type
[09:33] <Slyder0244> yea it worked before that but i already deleted the theme and the kdmrc file and restored the old one yet none of that seemed to help
[09:33] <hugelmopf> bam_: open Konqueror -- Settings -- Confgure --> there you can configure Filetype-Application links
[09:34] <hugelmopf> Slyder: how did you install the new theme in first place?
[09:34] <Oti1> angasule: well those are the more obvious ones but there are a whole bunch of other groups that are less obvious
[09:34] <Slyder0244> i put it in the theme directory with the old one and then changed the line in the kdmrc file to point to it like it said on kde-look
[09:34] <Oti1> angasule: where's a good place to look for this kind of info ?
[09:36] <Slyder0244> could it be another problem beyond the kdm i just figured that had to be what caused the problem since i can't get to a gui login
[09:37] <hugelmopf> Slyder: i am a bit lost without more details, and since you have to reboot every time to try something, it is a bit difficult.
[09:37] <bam_> hmmm lemme look again, sure I didnt see anything familiar
[09:37] <angasule> Oti1: I think the file /etc/group lists all the groups, no description or anything, though, but a nice starting point, maybe?
[09:38] <Slyder0244> yea i see what you are saying hugelmopf i'm not sure what other details i could give ya 
[09:38] <Slyder0244> i just know i can't boot into kde and i'd like to be able to do that again ya know heh
[09:39] <hugelmopf> Slyder: you can try the following: login at the command prompt and issue "startx". see whether this starts up your KDE.
[09:39] <MoreFX> Hi! I am trying to get pcmcia to work on my thinkpad. Yenta is up and running but the wlan card is not detected. KDE reports two emty slots. Can I scan for pcmcia devices manually?
[09:39] <Oti1> angasule: well I can see the list of the groups in the config pannel for users & groups. I *especially* need descriptions ! ;-)
[09:40] <Oti1> angasule: but I hear from other sources that being part of the "user" group only is sufficient
[09:40] <Slyder0244> k i'll give that a try hugelmopf thanx
[09:40] <hugelmopf> Oti1: what about looking which groups your main user is in, that should be sufficient, should it not?
[09:40] <hugelmopf> angasule: depends on what the user ought to do
[09:40] <hugelmopf> -angasule, +Oti1
[09:41] <Oti1> hugelmopf: well my only current user is the admin user .. I do *not* want mam and dad to have the same groups
[09:41] <Oti1> I'll just try them out with "user" only
[09:41] <Oti1> see how that suits them
[09:41] <Oti1> cheers 
[09:41] <angasule> Oti1: create a new user, and then check what groups it belongs to
[09:41] <hugelmopf> that wont be enough
[09:41] <hugelmopf> audio e.g. they might want ;-)
[09:42] <_jaro> :-)
[09:42] <_jaro> ROuter working now
[09:43] <_jaro> I just forgot to refresh IP
[09:43] <hugelmopf> :-)
[09:43] <bam_> i see application  preference order but when I open it konquerer take over, dont want this
[09:44] <rysiek> hello guys
[09:44] <rysiek> any ideas on how to make xmms/BMP play Monkey Audio (*.ape) files?
[09:45] <sioux> hi people..  who hep me to configure 3d drivers for my ati range 128??  The guide in wiki do not work for range 128 :(
[09:46] <gerst> how can change the fonts under wine?
[09:46] <sioux> I sow something about dri and mesa which are already provided by kubuntu, but I am not able to configure it
[09:47] <angasule> sioux: mesa is a software driver, I believe
[09:47] <sioux> angasule yes it is!
[09:48] <sioux> ATI do not provide offcial linux driver for that card :(
[09:48] <Slyder0244> well that didn't work hugelmopf, i think it's a problem with the xorg
[09:48] <hugelmopf> bam_: "kcontrol" -> "KDE components" -> File Associations
[09:49] <hugelmopf> Slyder: but startx should have given you a bit more information about the error?
[09:49] <Slyder0244> fatal io error 104
[09:50] <_martin> Hey guys. I hope you can help me with this issue. I've been running Kubuntu for the last 2 months and I love it. There is just one thing. I can't activate the WLAN card... I can do a "sudo kcontrol" and activate it but after 1 second it gets deactivate again >< Any ideas how I could fix it??? PS. I know the card is working, tested it in XP. It's an Intel Pro Wireless 2200BG
[09:50] <Slyder0244> and it said something about not being able to start xorg i believe and i remember trying to disable xorg before i had to reboot 
[09:50] <Slyder0244> then after that reboot i couldn't get back into kde
[09:51] <hugelmopf> Slyder: where did you disable xorg?
[09:51] <Slyder0244> in the ksysguard i tried killing the process and then everything froze up 
[09:51] <angasule> _martin: I have breezy badger and the default install includes a Wireless LAN Manager (KWiFiManager), maybe that would be of use
[09:51] <hugelmopf> _martin: what kind of wireless network (encryption)?
[09:52] <hugelmopf> Slyder: you killed the x-server while you were using it? hmmmm... need more infos from "startx"
[09:53] <Slyder0244> yea that's what i did but i thought xorg was just controlling the tranlucencies and shadows....guess i was wrong
[09:53] <_martin> I have WPA encryption and MAC filtering
[09:53] <Slyder0244> how do you scroll up while in the command prompt hugelmopf 
[09:54] <hugelmopf> Slyder: Shift-PageUp 
[09:54] <Slyder0244> or would their be a log all of that was written to that i could read off the hard disk
[09:55] <hugelmopf> _martin: MAC filtering is no problem. WPA: i'll let somebody else comment, i don't use it myself.
[09:55] <hugelmopf> _martin: i think you will beed wpasupplicant, but i don't have experience in setting it up
[09:56] <hugelmopf> -beed, +need
[09:56] <_martin> Hmmm, I managed to find the AP with KWiFiManager but I can't connect to it. I'll just remove the WPA encryption. No need for it anyway since I have MAC filtering :P
[09:56] <_martin> Brb
[09:56] <sikor_sxe> where can i get kubuntu sourcecode?
[09:57] <hugelmopf> _martin: MAC filtering is by far no replacement for encryption. anybody can spoof a MAC address
[09:57] <Slyder0244> hugelmopf, Parse error on line 21 of section Files in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:58] <Slyder0244> that's from the xorg log
[09:58] <hugelmopf> slyder: that looks very good. what is that line and its surroundings?
[09:58] <Slyder0244> i can send ya the log if that would be easier
[09:58] <kkathman> sikor_sxe: kubuntu.org
[09:59] <kkathman> sikor_sxe: but, kubuntu is basically ubuntu with KDE
[09:59] <hugelmopf> slyder: no, it seems you have already identified the right spot. maybe you could paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf in http://kubuntu.pastebin.com
[09:59] <kkathman> sikor_sxe: so, basically you really dont get the "source" per se.
[09:59] <Slyder0244> can do hugelmopf 
[10:00] <_martin> wOOt!!!!! KWifiManager worked now... connected via WLAN!! :D :D :D
[10:00] <hugelmopf> _martin: congrats. but read my line above!
[10:01] <Slyder0244> hugelmopf, http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/450040
[10:01] <hugelmopf> slyder: i actually wanted your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and not the log.
[10:02] <Slyder0244> oh opps sorry
[10:03] <Slyder0244> hugelmopf, http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/450043
[10:05] <hugelmopf> Slyder: you might have already noticed yourself: the :unscaled " should not be on a new line
[10:05] <Slyder0244> yea i saw that was a problem i didn't know why though
[10:05] <hugelmopf> these two lines need to be:
[10:05] <hugelmopf>         FontPath        "/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
[10:06] <hugelmopf>         FontPath        "/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
[10:06] <hugelmopf> Slyder: have you edited xorg.conf with the nano editor?
[10:06] <Slyder0244> no
[10:06] <hugelmopf> or with anything else?
[10:06] <Slyder0244> nope
[10:06] <Slyder0244> didn't even know where the file was till you told me
[10:07] <hugelmopf> strange. but just fix these lines and reboot
[10:07] <Slyder0244> k now i just gotta get knoppix to let me write to the file last time i tried editing the files it wouldn't let me write them
[10:08] <hugelmopf> slyder: you'll have to do that as root. try "su" to get a root prompt
[10:11] <Slyder0244> yea i went into su/root but it won't let me edit it, just says it can't set a read only document to be modified
[10:11] <hugelmopf> then the disk is mounted read/only
[10:11] <Slyder0244> i checked the properites and changed it to read and write for every user
[10:11] <True_Chaos|Lapto> Hey, I think im missing a driver or something, because my DVD drive isnt being recognised.  All its reading as is a cdrom drive.  Im on a laptop if that helps.
[10:11] <Slyder0244> and unticked the read only box
[10:12] <hugelmopf> True_Chaos: you might need libdvdcss to play movie DVDs
[10:16] <True_Chaos|Lapto> hugelmopf, k
[10:16] <hugelmopf> True_Chaos: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:17] <True_Chaos|Lapto> im not seeing libdvdcss in apt-cache search libdvd
[10:17] <hugelmopf> no, read my link
[10:18] <Kaloqn_8008> try www.google.com
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[10:18] <nrdb> Hi I have just installed kubuntu, I was wondering what the root password was, I don't remember it asking me.
[10:19] <hugelmopf> nrdb: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[10:19] <True_Chaos|Lapto> nrdb, doesnt have one set...  use sudo
[10:19] <[Relic] > is there an easy way to import configs from an old install to a new one?
[10:21] <nrdb> I have just installed kubuntu, I was wondering what the default root password is, I don't remember it asking on install.
[10:22] <hugelmopf> nrdb: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[10:22] <True_Chaos|Lapto> nrdb IT didnt ask for one during install.  There currently is no root password set.
[10:23] <True_Chaos|Lapto> nrdb, if you want to set a root password, type sudo passwd root
[10:26] <nrdb> True_Chaos|Lapto: isn't this a bit of a security issue?
[10:26] <True_Chaos|Lapto> dont ask me.  I just know how to set one.
[10:27] <nrdb> True_Chaos|Lapto: hugelmopf: ok I got my root shell now anyway, thank for the help.
[10:27] <True_Chaos|Lapto> sudo is effectively the same thing
[10:32] <libben> isnt there any ff 1.5 out for us numbs who dont know how to do it from source?
[10:32] <kkathman> yep
[10:32] <_jaro> hey you guys
[10:32] <kkathman> libben easy...
[10:33] <_jaro> I would like to know where things install when I install them via kynaptic
[10:33] <libben> kkathman: hit me with one then ?=)
[10:33] <kkathman> libben:  download it from the ff site, and install it in your home dir.  Then symlink it to /usr/bin
[10:34] <kkathman> works great
[10:34] <libben> why symlink it ?
[10:34] <libben> its not like i would type firefox in terminal
[10:34] <kkathman> that way you can just type "firefox" and it goes
[10:34] <kkathman> I dunno how you want to access it
[10:35] <kkathman> I removed the ff I had
[10:35] <kkathman> then deleted /usr/bin/firefox
[10:35] <kkathman> installed ff 1.5 in my home
[10:35] <libben> well, when u try to access firefox, u should be in an x envoiroment. 
[10:35] <kkathman> then created a symlink in /usr/bin
[10:35] <kkathman> yep...seeing thats kinda the purpose of a browser
[10:36] <kkathman> you can be at the CLI and type firefox and it should run
[10:37] <libben> whats CLI ?
[10:37] <kkathman> command line interface
[10:38] <libben> =)
[10:38] <_jaro> can someone tell me where I can change the desktop application type like from kde to gnome ?
[10:38] <kkathman> anyway thats how you install it simply
[10:38] <kkathman> _jaro just log out and re log in under gnome and it should ask you if you want to make it default
[10:40] <_jaro> ah
[10:40] <_jaro> hmm
[10:41] <_jaro> and.. ok.. I installed Enlightenment from Apt, where did it actually go, and how can i find out where other installed programs go
[10:41] <_jaro> i remember there was some kind of command , some log file
[10:41] <kkathman> dont know about enlightenment
[10:41] <kkathman> this is a kubuntu channel not enlightenment :)
[10:42] <kkathman> but i think there is an e channel out there
[10:42] <True_Chaos|Lapto> hmm.  this is wierd.  I get audio but no video
[10:42] <khalif> Good afternoon!
[10:42] <khalif> How is eeveryone today?
[10:42] <_jaro> i mean in general
[10:43] <_jaro> how can i find out in which Directory a program is gonna be installed
[10:43] <khalif> I'm a noob to linux and I was wondering if I could get a little help....
[10:43] <dodger> which "programmname"
[10:43] <_jaro> any program
[10:43] <_jaro> ah
[10:44] <_jaro> in which file is that information ?
[10:44] <dodger> oops, soory "be installed"? I think you can read the .deb file
[10:44] <_jaro> ah wasnt there a config file from where i built a program
[10:44] <_jaro> but what if the deb file is on server
[10:44] <_jaro> like in Synaptic
[10:45] <dodger> hmm, there is an apt-option that just downloads the file
[10:45] <kkathman> _jaro are you looking for /etc/inittab?
[10:45] <True_Chaos|Lapto> Ok, when trying to play a dvd, all I get is really jerky audio.  This is a burned movie dvd, and works in my dvd player on my windows machine, and the dvd player for my tv... and I cant figure out why it wont play
[10:45] <_jaro> what is that ?
[10:46] <dodger> what is what?
[10:47] <libben> kkathman: i just downloaded the tar.gz file. its just unpack it and run the bash script "firefox" ? why aint there a make and make install and all that ?
[10:47] <kkathman> _jaro it like tells you what things are started on your system
[10:47] <khalif> I want to change the look of my Kunbuntu desktop and I downloaded some new ones, but I can't install them using the icon manager.
[10:47] <kkathman> libben: because thats not the source
[10:47] <kkathman> libben: you said you didnt want the source
[10:47] <kkathman> and yah thats all ya do
[10:47] <_jaro> ok
[10:48] <_jaro> once again
[10:48] <libben> i downloaded from getfirefox
[10:48] <_jaro> 1. I start Kynaptic
[10:48] <khalif> could someone tell me what folder I need to put the icons in and then what I need to do to get the desktop to use them?
[10:48] <_jaro> 2. I install a program, which i found on some multiverse there
[10:48] <_jaro> 3. I want to know how to actually start that program, and where it's directories are
[10:48] <kkathman> _jaro that wont get you 1.5 will it?  only 1.0.7 I think
[10:48] <khalif> Also what folder do I place applications in that I want to use?
[10:49] <kkathman> _jaro: you want to know where firefox is?
[10:49] <dodger> well, you cannot read the deb-file, it's binary. but cat a deb file makes cool sounds :-)
[10:49] <_jaro> i wasnt talking about ff
[10:49] <dodger> _jaro: then you type which and the name of the programm
[10:49] <kkathman> ok
[10:50] <_jaro> it always says like /usr/bin ... 
[10:50] <_jaro> but thats only the binaries
[10:50] <_jaro> not the data folders
[10:50] <kkathman> _jaro: to start the program...do whereis <program>  then just type it
[10:50] <khalif> Anybody have any experience with changing their icons in Kubuntu?
[10:50] <kkathman> why do you want to know where all the directories are?
[10:51] <_jaro> because i want to know where stuff is on my computer ^^
[10:51] <kkathman> nah you dont need to know that
[10:51] <kkathman> lol
[10:51] <_jaro> hmm.. and when will the K-Menu be altered ?
[10:52] <kkathman> some proggies alter the K-menu others dont
[10:52] <kkathman> but you can edit the k menu yourself
[10:52] <_jaro> i can
[10:52] <kkathman> _jaro some programs will give you a choice or where they install, others dont
[10:52] <_jaro> yes
[10:52] <_jaro> hm
[10:53] <_jaro> i never saw that
[10:53] <pv_> quite funny, installing the kde 3.5 packages frees 215 MB disk space (or so apt advertises)
[10:55] <kkathman> pv_ yah you soon find out why
[10:55] <kkathman> hehe
[10:57] <pv_> please enlighten me (even if this was a joke :)
[10:57] <elgordo12345> Hello everyone.   What is the opinion of KDE 3.5 ?    
[10:58] <kkathman> elgordo12345: wait till it comes into the official repos
[10:59] <elgordo12345> ok.  so once it stabalizes they'll move it to the standard ones then right? 
[10:59] <kkathman> yes
[10:59] <elgordo12345> great.  I'll let other people feel the pain first!   Thanks
[10:59] <kkathman> believe me they are
[11:14] <gerst> anyone knows a good online form fill program? like roboform under windoz
[11:14] <nrdb> Hi I would like to use OObase to connect to a postgresql database, does anyone know if this is possible?
[11:17] <Slyder0244> can anyone help me with my xorg.conf file
[11:18] <angasule> gerst: umh, I'm not sure what roboform does, sounds similar to the KDE wallet
[11:19] <gerst> can kde wallet fill any kind of online form with 1 click?
[11:21] <angasule> I don't fill online forms, so I don't know
[11:26] <libben> what does firefox %u does?
[11:27] <angasule> gerst: there's also a firefox extension called 'autoform' which may be of use
[11:27] <angasule> libben: umh, ask in the firefox channel?
[11:36] <vblanton> Anyone know why dragging a box on the desktop is slow and "laggy"?
[11:37] <khalif> What do I need to do to get the "home" and "trashcan" icons to appear on my desktop?
[11:37] <vblanton> xG7Lie4
[11:37] <vblanton> asdasd
[11:37] <angasule> vblanton: maybe you have the wrong driver?
[11:37] <DRAGON_Ultra> how many things you doing at once
[11:37] <angasule> vblanton: oops :)
[11:37] <vblanton> angasule: I'm running nvidia driver
[11:37] <vblanton> I90eja
[11:38] <vblanton> oops, sorry for the random letters, my cat is pouncing around
[11:38] <DRAGON_Ultra> lol
[11:38] <khalif> I would like to have the home and trashcan on my desktop. What should I do to enable that?
[11:39] <vblanton> DRAGON_Ultra: only one thing. talking here
[11:39] <DRAGON_Ultra> k
[11:39] <DRAGON_Ultra> hmm
[11:39] <vblanton> khalif: you can drag the home icon on the desktop
[11:40] <vblanton> khalif: as for the trash bin...
[11:41] <khalif> When I drag the home icon onto the desktop, will it just move the folder to my desktop folder or will it make an alias?
[11:41] <vblanton> khalif: im not sure... one sec
[11:41] <vblanton> khalif: it should ask you if you want to make a link or not
[11:42] <khalif> ok.....
[11:42] <vblanton> anyone know how to add the trash can to the desktop? I can't remember
[11:42] <libben> how do i install plugins for firefox 1.5 ? like macromedia and so on?
[11:43] <vblanton> libben: macromedia isn't a plugin
[11:43] <vblanton> libben: plugins are apps developed for the firefox browser, downloadable at the firefox homepage
[11:43] <libben> true
[11:44] <vblanton> libben: in order to instal macromedia you can go to the macromedia webpage
[11:44] <vblanton> libben: there are linux instructions there
[11:45] <vblanton> does anyone else get a choppy effect when dragging a highlighting box across one corner of the desktop to the other?
[11:45] <kkathman> vblanton: I do not
[11:46] <kkathman> well I say that...its not like windows I guess
[11:48] <vblanton> hmm.. weird. Especially since I have a geforce 6800gt and the latest drivers..
[11:48] <vblanton> not that I really mind, but it's just funky
[11:49] <vblanton> maybe I should upgrade to kde 3.5
[11:49] <khalif> If I wanted to install some new programs would I put them in /usr/share or in /usr/share/apps?
[11:49] <DRAGON_Ultra> never had good luck with Nvidia
[11:49] <vblanton> khalif: well, first i'd check if Adept has it!
[11:49] <vblanton> khalif: that way you don't have to deal with installing it yourself
[11:50] <vblanton> khalif: if Adept doesn't have it, then try opening Adept Going to Adept > Manage Repositories and enable the other repositories, fetch updates and check if Adept has it again.
[11:51] <khalif> I've gott Kubuntu installed on an old Thinkpad and because it doesn't have an Ethernet port I have to download programs using my iMac then move them to the laptop using my usb drive.
[11:51] <vblanton> oh
[11:51] <khalif> Since I'm doing this manually, I need to know which directory to copy and un-tar the apps to.....
[11:52] <vblanton> In that case, you can place them in your home folder, or in a system folder like /usr/games/bin or whatever. I'm not to knowledge about the system directory structure and where apps go, so you should ask someone else if you want to install it in the system.
[11:52] <vblanton> But, I usually install stuff in my home directory
[11:52] <vblanton> and then link to it in the menu
[11:52] <khalif> thanks vblanton
[11:52] <vblanton> no problemo
[11:53] <vblanton> Also, most apps will self-install themselves in the appropriate places!
[11:53] <vblanton> If you are compiling them...
[11:53] <vblanton> have fun
[12:00] <angasule> what's a good kde-friendly bittorrent program? ktorrent crashes constantly
[12:02] <jaro> hi there
[12:02] <angasule> hello