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| mjg59 | BenC: bcm430x people just announced working transmit/receive | 12:22 |
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| mjg59 | BenC: With gawk, I get "Error in source file" | 12:40 |
| BenC | mjg59: you have to delete the bad file | 01:19 |
| BenC | then one that was attempted by mawk | 01:19 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Ah | 01:26 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Is there any way of enforcing this in the build? | 01:26 |
| BenC | would be better if we can fix up the awk script to work more compatibly | 01:27 |
| mjg59 | Yeah | 01:27 |
| mjg59 | I've managed to get the bcm43xx driver to associate, but not yet to bring up an interface | 01:28 |
| BenC | will we be able to put some bcm43xx firmware in l-r-m? | 01:35 |
| mjg59 | Nf. | 01:43 |
| mjg59 | That's awkward. | 01:43 |
| mjg59 | Currently, I'd say "no" | 01:43 |
| BenC | any ideas on the ability to distribute bcm4xxx firmware at all? :) | 02:06 |
| BenC | I know we have some bcm firmware already in our kernel tree | 02:07 |
| mjg59 | The bcm ethernet stuff is fine - they've given us permission | 02:21 |
| infinity | We can put firmware in LRM if we have the driver in the kernel. | 03:08 |
| infinity | (if we can distribute the firmmware, that is) | 03:08 |
| infinity | We do that for acx100 firmware. | 03:09 |
| mjg59 | The firmware is ripped out of the Windows driver right now | 03:09 |
| BenC | yeah, there's a tool to extract it | 03:09 |
| infinity | Same story with the acx100 firmware. | 03:09 |
| BenC | infinity: why do we do that for acx100 and no others? | 03:09 |
| infinity | The tool actually goes and downloads a bunch of random drivers and extracts the firmware. | 03:09 |
| BenC | we will need that same functionality for bcm43xx | 03:10 |
| mjg59 | The Broadcom one extracts stuff from the Windows or MacOS drivers | 03:10 |
| infinity | BenC : Perhaps because of the extreme sketchiness of how we obtain the firmware? :) | 03:10 |
| mjg59 | But we still need permission to distribute it | 03:10 |
| infinity | (And the fact that it's obviously not Free) | 03:10 |
| BenC | yeah, wonder if the bcm43xx folks have visited this issue yet | 03:10 |
| infinity | Some firmware is kindly licesnsed in a way that pretends ot be Free, and we look the other way, I think. | 03:11 |
| BenC | yeah, like the ones that are in "source code, binhex style" | 03:11 |
| BenC | "This binhex-to-C-array dump is GPL'd" :) | 03:12 |
| mjg59 | I'd be surprised if Broadcom would let us ship the firmware for a device that we've reverse engineered a driver for | 03:12 |
| BenC | it's not really reverse engineered, is it? | 03:12 |
| BenC | or is the spec reverse engineered? | 03:12 |
| mjg59 | The driver? Well, it's based on reverse engineered specs | 03:12 |
| infinity | The latter, i think. | 03:12 |
| mjg59 | So it's probably legal, but I can't see them being keen | 03:12 |
| BenC | broadcom isn't keen on too many things | 03:13 |
| BenC | I used to have access to their docbase | 03:13 |
| BenC | wonder if that login still works | 03:14 |
| infinity | ARGH. | 05:56 |
| infinity | BenC : Still around? | 05:56 |
| infinity | http://www.kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=blobdiff;h=1e737e269db99fbf01a5436910ae1aef99e9e075;hp=0631074954f75b6351a6c13769e03be5ce87139a;hb=b135c4815051bad6b2472e4ad0152f205918d2c5;f=include/linux/pci_ids.h | 05:56 |
| infinity | -#define PCI_DEVICE_ID_ATT_L56XMF 0x0440 | 05:57 |
| infinity | Apparently, I need that for ltmodem to build. | 05:57 |
| mjg59 | infinity: You could define it locally | 05:57 |
| mjg59 | infinity: Also, see http://www.livejournal.com/users/mjg59/55488.html | 05:58 |
| mjg59 | That's the sort of fucking shit I'm dealing with | 05:58 |
| infinity | mjg59 : Oh, I will define it locally, but it still seems a bit wrong that it got removed. | 05:59 |
| mjg59 | infinity: I'm really unconvinced by that title. There's stuff removed there that isn't duplicated by anything else in the file. | 05:59 |
| mjg59 | I wish I knew why people keep removing stuff from the kernel | 06:00 |
| mjg59 | You'd think they could write a useful patch instead | 06:00 |
| infinity | Yeah, I did a quick grep and came to the same conclusion as you. | 06:01 |
| infinity | It may as well have read "Remove PCI IDs for devices I don't like" or something. | 06:01 |
| mjg59 | It's probably "Remove PCI IDs that aren't referenced in the kernel" | 06:02 |
| mjg59 | Someone should bitch | 06:02 |
| mjg59 | Preferably not me, this time | 06:02 |
| mjg59 | I did it for the last bit of useful stuff that got ripped out | 06:03 |
| infinity | Meh. That seems braindead to me, but what do I know? | 06:04 |
| infinity | I like the ("Open Source" code) bit in your license. | 06:05 |
| infinity | Just in case we weren't sure. | 06:05 |
| mjg59 | I hate Linuxant | 06:06 |
| mjg59 | Deep, visceral hate | 06:06 |
| calc | so what does vbetool 0.5 do for amd64 over i386? | 06:33 |
| calc | er i meant over 0.4 | 06:33 |
| calc | i brainoed ;) | 06:33 |
| mjg59 | It builds properly | 06:34 |
| calc | something that would have made 0.4 not work right on amd64 or just build time issues? | 06:34 |
| mjg59 | Basically just build time issues | 06:34 |
| calc | ah ok | 06:35 |
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| infinity | mjg59 : Any drivers to shove at me for LRM yet?... I'm rolling a new release. | 07:40 |
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| infinity | Can someone buy me an OS that makes sense for Christmas? kthx. | 08:56 |
| infinity | I rebooted, initramfs claimed that /dev/sda3 (my root device) didn't exist. Sure enough, it had been created as /dev/hda[*] instead. | 08:57 |
| infinity | Another reboot, and it's back to /dev/sda[*] , and I'm rocking myself to sleep in the foetal position in the corner. | 08:57 |
| fabbione | infinity: is that machine SATA? | 09:02 |
| infinity | Yes. | 09:03 |
| fabbione | it's a load module order problem | 09:03 |
| infinity | I blame udev. | 09:03 |
| fabbione | sometime the ide driver (hda*) is loaded before the sata (sda*) | 09:03 |
| infinity | Note that I didn't touch anything between reboots. | 09:03 |
| fabbione | yeah | 09:05 |
| fabbione | it still can happen | 09:05 |
| fabbione | 2 drivers handling the same device | 09:06 |
| fabbione | BAD BAD BAD | 09:06 |
| infinity | Yeah. Just wonder why I've never seen it until today. | 09:06 |
| infinity | Moon phase, I guess. | 09:06 |
| fabbione | possibly | 09:07 |
| makx | infinity i had that frequently with udev = 0.74 | 09:55 |
| makx | it was solved that time with a nasty timeout. | 09:55 |
| makx | that was prior udev with /dev/.udev/udevqueue you can test against | 09:55 |
| infinity | Well, this is with the shiney new udev here. | 10:04 |
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| infinity | Our systems and packages may be cleaner, but they only boot every second try, so don't be TOO envious. :) | 10:26 |
| makx | infinity you seem to use udevplug, which is not even in our udev package. | 10:29 |
| makx | we need to use udevsynthesize. | 10:29 |
| fabbione | BenC: please pull from my archive when you wake up (RedHat cluster kernel modules update) | 10:59 |
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| CataEnry | hi all | 11:09 |
| chmj | is stuff like fixing FTBFS becouse of missing headers worth pushing to kernel upstream ? | 12:52 |
| fabbione | chmj: where do you get that? | 12:53 |
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| chmj | fabbione: linux-2.6/kernel/irq/handle.o | 12:56 |
| chmj | include/asm/acpi.h:67: error: boot_cpu_data undeclared (first use in this function) | 12:56 |
| fabbione | from which tree? | 12:56 |
| fabbione | and on what arch are you building? | 12:57 |
| chmj | i386 | 12:57 |
| fabbione | from which tree? | 12:57 |
| chmj | upstream tree with some test patches | 12:57 |
| fabbione | probably worth a shot, but check if the patch hasn't been submitted already | 12:57 |
| fabbione | acpi is common enough to trigger an alarm when it doesn't build | 12:58 |
| chmj | fabbione: hmm, thanks | 12:58 |
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| BenC | fabbione: ok | 01:54 |
| fabbione | BenC: thanks dude.. test builded on amd64 and it's fine | 02:04 |
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| fabbione | jbailey, BenC: should we have the meeting now? | 02:13 |
| fabbione | or do you prefer to wait? | 02:13 |
| fabbione | both ways work for me | 02:13 |
| jbailey | fabbione: I'm fine now. I jjust need to remember what it was about. | 02:14 |
| fabbione | something about specs? | 02:14 |
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| jbailey | I need logrotate for these things. | 02:15 |
| jbailey | ah, here we are. | 02:18 |
| jbailey | KernelServerRoadmap | 02:18 |
| jbailey | The idea being that the spec currently defines servers are pretty exclusively things that high end admins would need (clusters, fibber channel raid arrays, etc). | 02:19 |
| jbailey | What came up was that Ben asked if he thougt anyone would notice if USB network cards weren't compiled for that kernel. | 02:20 |
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| jbailey | My comment was that if setup up an office for SME/SoHo, it's very reasonable to do servers with wireless USB. | 02:20 |
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| fabbione | jbailey: it really depends what you consider a "server" | 02:21 |
| jbailey | So the discussion is really, (I think), how are we defining server | 02:21 |
| jbailey | Right! =) | 02:21 |
| fabbione | and at the end the result was: hw drivers all | 02:21 |
| jbailey | So it needs to be clear, match what actual end user expectations are. | 02:21 |
| fabbione | we finetune the server for other properties | 02:21 |
| fabbione | like highmem and premptviness | 02:21 |
| jbailey | Well, the definition is less important than what a person will install in their office. | 02:21 |
| fabbione | and stuff along that line | 02:21 |
| fabbione | well it is somehow | 02:21 |
| jbailey | Is it correct for a person in a 5 person office to install the server edition on their fileserver? | 02:21 |
| jbailey | If it's not, then I think it's misnamed. | 02:22 |
| fabbione | we might want to support the kernel server only on certified hw | 02:22 |
| jbailey | And should be "Enterprise computing edition" or something like that, with a note on the side saying what that means. | 02:22 |
| jbailey | There's no serious chance of that for dapper. | 02:22 |
| jbailey | Possibly after that, though. | 02:22 |
| fabbione | i think that what ben and I decided at UBZ was full hw | 02:22 |
| fabbione | but just tune for server/desktop | 02:22 |
| fabbione | for example | 02:22 |
| fabbione | redhat cluster suite doesn't like preempt | 02:23 |
| fabbione | now.. | 02:23 |
| BenC | ok, here, we can do the meeting now if you like | 02:23 |
| fabbione | you stick redhat cluster suite module on the server kernel | 02:23 |
| fabbione | but not on the workstation one | 02:23 |
| fabbione | given also that desktop prefers preempt generally | 02:23 |
| fabbione | BenC: cool | 02:23 |
| fabbione | it will save me to run this evening | 02:24 |
| fabbione | i *think* the biggest mistake is that we keep trying to code in a spec the kernel | 02:25 |
| jbailey | Eh? If we don't code it into a spec, how are we supposed to do it with enough community feedback? | 02:25 |
| fabbione | jbailey: keeping an eye on bugzilla? ;) | 02:25 |
| fabbione | jbailey: seriously i think that the kernel world is too unpreditable to be specced the same way we do for other stuff, imho | 02:27 |
| fabbione | but does my answer satisfy your curiosity? | 02:27 |
| fabbione | (in regards of the hw support) | 02:28 |
| jbailey | It does, but it doesn't answer the real question yet for me - Is the server kernel going to be suitable for a 5 person office running a fileserver? | 02:28 |
| BenC | fabbione: one thing we weren't sure of, is this going to be server as in "any machine I decide to run as a server" or server a in "expensive NUMA/Summit type systems"? | 02:28 |
| jbailey | I think it's a yes. | 02:28 |
| fabbione | BenC: iirc we did agree to fine tune the server flavour to suck in as much server coolness as possible | 02:29 |
| BenC | but our normal 686 kernel can do that | 02:29 |
| fabbione | jbailey: it should yes.. | 02:30 |
| BenC | and our desktop kernel, currently, isn't full preempt, so it should be suitable for SOHO server situations | 02:31 |
| fabbione | BenC: i think we should rever that for desktop | 02:31 |
| BenC | so my opinion was that the "server kernel" would be geared toward the higher end stuff | 02:31 |
| fabbione | and disable the RH stuff on it | 02:31 |
| fabbione | BenC: the main problem is that it means shipping even more kernels on -server CD | 02:32 |
| BenC | and disable NFS server, and other things like that? | 02:32 |
| fabbione | that's confusing for the user | 02:32 |
| fabbione | BenC: no, the rh cluster and premept simply conflicts.. it was an example | 02:32 |
| fabbione | also.. you can't make clustered workstation | 02:33 |
| BenC | just the line is getting fuzzy | 02:33 |
| fabbione | it just doesn't work :) | 02:33 |
| BenC | I'm not really sure what the target of our server kernel is, which is making it hard to decide what should and should not be there | 02:33 |
| fabbione | hmmmmm | 02:34 |
| fabbione | i thought we did agree on full hw support | 02:34 |
| fabbione | and just tune highmem and preempt | 02:34 |
| fabbione | to start | 02:34 |
| BenC | but that's the minor issue | 02:34 |
| BenC | are we not going to do numa/summit/bigsmp right now? | 02:34 |
| fabbione | do they need to be different flavour? | 02:35 |
| fabbione | or can they exist in the same kernel? | 02:35 |
| BenC | there's a generic one that covers all three | 02:35 |
| BenC | but I don't know if it will run on a normal 686, or if you even want to | 02:35 |
| fabbione | we can test the former | 02:35 |
| BenC | the generic one is what I have now | 02:36 |
| BenC | maybe I can do a server and a enterprise kernel? | 02:36 |
| fabbione | or server-lowend and server-highend | 02:36 |
| BenC | server being our 686 tuned for server, and enterprise being the one that supports the big systems? | 02:36 |
| fabbione | i would avoid enterprise word | 02:36 |
| BenC | ok | 02:37 |
| fabbione | that would make sense yes | 02:37 |
| fabbione | if we stick the word enterprise anywhere we will be classified as RH | 02:37 |
| BenC | will we need udeb's for those? | 02:37 |
| fabbione | and we do not want that | 02:37 |
| fabbione | only for the -686 | 02:37 |
| fabbione | so we could: | 02:37 |
| fabbione | install the -server CD with the 686-server tuned | 02:37 |
| fabbione | who needs the big mofo can install it from CD | 02:38 |
| BenC | ok | 02:38 |
| fabbione | how should we call them? | 02:38 |
| fabbione | 686-server and highend-server? | 02:38 |
| fabbione | we will need to keep a very detailed documentation on the differences | 02:39 |
| fabbione | for sure people are going to ask | 02:39 |
| infinity | "highend" is one of those things people will install for "highend features", invariably installing the wrong thing. | 02:39 |
| infinity | Is there any short word one can think of that unambiguously means "really big hardware you don't own, dumbass" | 02:39 |
| fabbione | and note that we will need the same counterparts for the other arches | 02:39 |
| fabbione | 686-forbigfathwyoucanteffordunderyourstinckydesk | 02:40 |
| infinity | (Also, where is the cutoff between server and fatserver?.. With commodoty hardware as it is these days, I assume server will still support a fair number of CPUs (4, 8?) and a mess of RAM (16G, 32G?) out of the box. | 02:41 |
| infinity | Just not crazy configs like 512 CPUs and NUMA... Right? | 02:41 |
| fabbione | infinity: i think that's more or less what i had in mine and didn't say | 02:41 |
| BenC | yeah, that's basically it | 02:42 |
| BenC | 8-way, 32Gig is the limit for our normal server | 02:43 |
| mjg59 | Hmm. Dyntick seems to be a bit over-enthusiastic | 02:43 |
| mjg59 | As in, I'm only getting ticks if I actually do something that generates interrupts | 02:43 |
| infinity | BenC : Oh, hate to take your mind off the pressing business of naming your next baby... | 02:43 |
| fabbione | we could call it 686-bigmofo | 02:44 |
| mjg59 | And it doesn't actually seem to be saving me any power, either | 02:44 |
| infinity | BenC : What should we do with "linux-tree" and "linux-patch-ubuntu" from linux-meta? | 02:44 |
| fabbione | i wonder if they will get it? | 02:44 |
| fabbione | infinity: kill them | 02:44 |
| fabbione | linux-patch doesn't exist anymore | 02:44 |
| infinity | BenC : Are you intending to keep the kernel debian-native from here on in, and we should just drop those? | 02:44 |
| fabbione | and neither -tree- afair | 02:44 |
| BenC | infinity: I had them deleted, we just need linux-source now | 02:45 |
| infinity | Well, -tree = source+patch-ubuntu, so if there's no patch, there's no tree. Right. | 02:45 |
| infinity | Kay. | 02:45 |
| BenC | brb, rebooting to -7.9 | 02:46 |
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| cliebow_ | could someone elaborate on tagging a vmlinux kernel with initramfs?suggestions were adding initrams.gz to the data section? | 03:08 |
| Yagisan | reading the scrollback, what about servers that need high interactivity eg edubuntu or other ltsp servers ? | 03:10 |
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| Yagisan | do they have to have a "desktop" kernel ? | 03:10 |
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| fabbione | Yagisan: ltsp servers are workstations | 03:12 |
| fabbione | so they get the desktop kernel | 03:12 |
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| BenC | yay, my cdrom is working! | 03:15 |
| BenC | jbailey: I have an interesting tidbit for you, my G4 stopped locking up from the screen-saver after I switched LCD panels | 03:16 |
| jbailey | BenC: It's an Apple Cinema Display. No chance of me swapping it out. =) | 03:17 |
| BenC | hehe | 03:17 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Did you have a chance to ask jgarzik about the ata_piix pata support? | 03:17 |
| BenC | mjg59: he never came back around | 03:18 |
| mjg59 | Ah, ok | 03:18 |
| Yagisan | fabbione: Ok, but that would still have the driver support of say "server" versions ? | 03:18 |
| fabbione | Yagisan: please read all the scroll back | 03:18 |
| fabbione | Yagisan: the hw support will be the same in terms of drivers | 03:18 |
| fabbione | and no ltsp does NOT need a server kernel | 03:18 |
| BenC | fabbione: so on i386 (the only server kernel atm) I will disable all the cluster stuff except in the server kernels, correct? | 03:19 |
| BenC | should I disable gfs aswell? | 03:19 |
| fabbione | BenC: yes correct. | 03:20 |
| fabbione | gfs/clustering can go away from the desktop | 03:20 |
| fabbione | and you could reenable pre-empt | 03:20 |
| fabbione | but that's up to you | 03:20 |
| fabbione | gfs depends on CMAN iirc | 03:22 |
| BenC | ok | 03:22 |
| fabbione | do it should autodisable | 03:22 |
| Yagisan | fabbione: ok. I just thought I read that nfs was proposed to be disabled in desktop kernels, and that's needed for ltsp/edubuntu | 03:22 |
| fabbione | s/^d/s | 03:22 |
| fabbione | Yagisan: read carefully ;) | 03:22 |
| fabbione | BenC: when do you plan to upload 7.9 ? | 03:23 |
| Yagisan | fabbione: I know, I need more coffee (and sleep - my babies won't let me do that). | 03:23 |
| BenC | hopefully today | 03:24 |
| fabbione | BenC: perfect | 03:24 |
| BenC | maybe tomorrow since I want to get the server kernel building aswell | 03:24 |
| fabbione | i am waiting for the new rh modules to test the new userland | 03:24 |
| fabbione | too lazy to build it myself on 3 arches | 03:24 |
| fabbione | did you remember to enable the ABI script? | 03:25 |
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| CataEnry | hi all | 03:26 |
| BenC | yeah, abi is working again | 03:40 |
| fabbione | cool | 03:40 |
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| mjg59 | BenC: Hm. The ata_piix driver doesn't provide PCI IDs for a lot of the devices that piix.c will drive | 04:20 |
| mjg59 | I'm playing with it a bit now | 04:20 |
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| lamont__ | BenC: either I deleted it, or something else caused your patch email to not reach me... could you send it to lamont.jones@hp.com? | 05:16 |
| lamont__ | (elilo/gnuefi) | 05:16 |
| BenC | I didn't send it | 05:17 |
| BenC | it's not booting | 05:17 |
| BenC | the fix is simple enough, just use the linker scripts from gnu-efi 3.0b | 05:17 |
| BenC | it's like a two line change | 05:17 |
| BenC | I even tried building with gcc-3.4, and it still doesn't work (as soon as it tries to run elilo, it drops back to the EFI menu, almost instantly) | 05:18 |
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| jbailey | BenC: Amusingly enough, I switched back to sparc/2.6.12-9 and started a gdb build earlier. I just checked and it has not crashed yet. | 05:23 |
| BenC | yeah, that is odd | 05:23 |
| BenC | I've been doing some fairly frequent builds of the kernel on my e3k (-j20) | 05:24 |
| BenC | maybe I should try a gdb build :) | 05:24 |
| jbailey | BenC: It's in the testsuite that it's dying. | 05:28 |
| jbailey | So the two thoughts I have are memory pressure, or some syscall exercising. | 05:28 |
| BenC | I have 6 gigs, so memory pressure is difficult for me | 05:28 |
| BenC | I need to get my U2 out for testing some of this | 05:28 |
| jbailey | I understand. I have the same problem with my ppc64 box. =) | 05:28 |
| BenC | poor us :) | 05:29 |
| jbailey | Isn't our life hard? =) | 05:29 |
| lamont__ | BenC: so we just need a newer gnu-efi, and then figure out why it doesn't boot, eh? | 05:52 |
| lamont__ | and pulling ram is painful, too. | 05:53 |
| lamont__ | BenC: does it play a pretty tune first, or just exit? | 05:54 |
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| BenC | tune? | 05:54 |
| BenC | I hadn't noticed any tunes coming from my i2k :) | 05:55 |
| BenC | I see "Loading Ubuntu", then "Starting Ubuntu", and then back to EFI, the "Starting Ubuntu" goes so fast I somtimes don't even see it | 05:55 |
| BenC | so it's like exiting pretty damn early | 05:56 |
| BenC | lamont: is there any debugging I can put in elilo? | 05:56 |
| BenC | I'm almost thinking it is exiting in crt0 or something | 05:57 |
| BenC | ah, it has verbose and debug options | 06:01 |
| BenC | I'll try enabling that | 06:01 |
| mdz | BenC: I get a BUG on 2.6.15-5 triggered by the pcmciautils init script | 07:11 |
| mdz | is pcmciautils not doing the same checks that pcmcia-cs did, to avoid loading the drivers on systems which don't have pcmcia? | 07:11 |
| BenC | fixed in -6 | 07:11 |
| mdz | (this is on my desktop) | 07:11 |
| mdz | ok, am doing that upgrade now | 07:11 |
| BenC | you got a softlock, correct? | 07:11 |
| mdz | correct | 07:11 |
| mdz | init_i82365 ... _spin_lock_irqsave | 07:11 |
| BenC | yeah, fixed | 07:12 |
| mdz | thanks | 07:12 |
| BenC | patch from breezy causing that | 07:12 |
| BenC | just removed it | 07:12 |
| mdz | BenC: any guesses as to my via/irqpoll problem? (#5234) | 07:15 |
| mdz | that's the real issue with 2.6.15 on my desktop currently | 07:15 |
| BenC | same problem from breezy, right? | 07:15 |
| BenC | I left out your patch to see if you'd complain, so I guess I'll still need it :) | 07:15 |
| BenC | I'll put it in -7.9 | 07:16 |
| mdz | not exactly; irqpoll no longer works around it now | 07:16 |
| BenC | maybe irqpoll is broken | 07:16 |
| BenC | x86 or amd64? | 07:17 |
| mdz | x86 | 07:18 |
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| BenC | I was going to upload -7.9 today, but it got put off because a driver is failing to build | 07:19 |
| BenC | since I have to put it off anyway, I can get your via patch in and check irqpoll | 07:19 |
| BenC | when is flight 2 supposed to be done? | 07:20 |
| CataEnry | hi | 07:20 |
| jbailey | BenC: I asked Colin for a not-sooner-than this morning and he said Thursday. | 07:44 |
| BenC | cool, so tomorrow shoudl be ok for a -7.9 upload | 07:44 |
| BenC | thanks | 07:44 |
| mdz | BenC: flight 2 is tentatively later this week | 07:48 |
| mdz | thurs or fri | 07:48 |
| fabbione | mjg59: are you aware of any problem with the ipw2x00 driver in the latest breezy kernel? | 08:19 |
| fabbione | (or if you heard something about it) | 08:19 |
| mjg59 | What sort of problem? | 08:26 |
| fabbione | basically it happens only to cvd | 08:27 |
| fabbione | when there are 3 or 4 APs around | 08:27 |
| fabbione | the card becomes unstable to death | 08:27 |
| fabbione | do you happen to have one of them around to test in a similar situation? | 08:27 |
| fabbione | the problem happens with breezy kernels | 08:28 |
| mjg59 | I've seen vaguely similar stuff | 08:30 |
| fabbione | workarounds? | 08:30 |
| mjg59 | Nope | 08:30 |
| fabbione | ok thanks :/ | 08:31 |
| dilinger | breezy's kernel keeps crashing on my opteron machine :/ | 08:35 |
| mjg59 | Fucking ay | 08:37 |
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| jbailey | dilinger: Your opteron and my sparc can go cuddle. | 08:37 |
| fabbione | dilinger: your opteron is crap.. :) | 08:38 |
| dilinger | fabbione: my opteron rocks :p | 08:38 |
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| dilinger | fabbione: i'm not even using SMP, since that crashes on bootup | 08:38 |
| trevilor | hi guys | 08:39 |
| dilinger | it may very well be the 3ware driver | 08:40 |
| dilinger | since it's been doing a lot of i/o when it hangs | 08:40 |
| fabbione | dilinger: what about trying to see if it is something else? | 08:40 |
| dilinger | fabbione: well, the machine's in boston right now, and i'm not | 08:40 |
| dilinger | so trying stuff is kind of hard | 08:40 |
| fabbione | dilinger: sucks to be you | 08:40 |
| dilinger | :P | 08:41 |
| dilinger | not really. it's a 2TB machine :) | 08:41 |
| dilinger | once it's stable, i will be very very happy | 08:41 |
| BenC | mjg59: just did a sync for bcm43xx and softmac for -7.9, so let me know if it works stock | 08:42 |
| dilinger | the sunfire should be going out to davem today | 08:42 |
| dilinger | assuming that the UPS pickup happens correctly | 08:42 |
| fabbione | dilinger: cool | 08:42 |
| mjg59 | BenC: I needed to add a PCI ID | 08:43 |
| fabbione | BenC: dunno if you are reading #u-d but we might not need udeb for -server at all | 08:43 |
| mjg59 | But other than that, it seems good | 08:43 |
| fabbione | softmac as in the Airport Extreme support? | 08:43 |
| BenC | fabbione: ok, I have them enabled, so it's easy to turn off (or ignore them) | 08:43 |
| mjg59 | Softmac provides 802.11 management stuff in software | 08:43 |
| BenC | mjg59: email me the id's | 08:43 |
| mjg59 | Which the Broadcom driver needs | 08:43 |
| fabbione | ok | 08:43 |
| fabbione | BenC: ok, if they don't build, just disable them | 08:44 |
| BenC | bcm43xx as in airport extreme though | 08:44 |
| fabbione | BenC: i totally forgot to ask to Kamion before saying yes | 08:44 |
| mjg59 | BenC: 4318 with VENDOR_HP, ID_ANY in the subvendor/device fields | 08:44 |
| BenC | mjg59: ok, they'll be there | 08:44 |
| mjg59 | Rock | 08:45 |
| dilinger | jbailey: what kind of sparc, btw? | 08:53 |
| jbailey | dilinger: U5 | 08:53 |
| dilinger | ah | 08:54 |
| mdz | BenC: kernel-wedge and kernel-package merges seem to still be pending; if there's something blocking them, please note in the status whiteboard, otherwise please get them merged soonest | 10:12 |
| jbailey | Is it expected that there's no linux-headers-2.6.15-# package yet? | 11:49 |
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