[12:00] <The_Isle_of_Mark> ubuntu have tou done a sudo hdparms and then p? is the drive locked?
[12:00] <j-linux> spikebike: good idea.... I'm looking it up now...
[12:00] <levander> ubuntu: paste your /etc/fstab, maybe something's wrong in there?
[12:00] <brownie17> garg
[12:00] <j-linux> thanks
[12:00] <j-linux> I do like the Powerbooks though.. great screens
[12:00] <spikebike> I prefer the t40/t41/t42/t43, particularly with the 1400x1050 screen
[12:00] <spikebike> about 5 lbs
[12:00] <thechitowncubs> The_Isle_of_Mark, ok...
[12:00] <spikebike> awesome screen
[12:00] <xiaogil> how to list files with their size using the ls command ?
[12:00] <logical_mark> The_Isle_of_Mark: How can I get vncviewer to fit the remote desktop to screen?
[12:00] <RAW-mEAT> whats my problem, cant see through what i did wrong:   http://nopaste.php-q.net/176475
[12:00] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, -fullscreen
[12:01] <kaz> rockett18: not sure
[12:01] <Rockett18> spikebike> yeah the IBM thinkpads T40 - 43's are wafer thin and light as hell
[12:01] <AbdulSpiegel> _jason, okay im done, im gonna reload and see what happens
[12:01] <Mabus06> yes brownie, changes the resolution, but not really... see doom 3 uses a worse resolution thatn I use
[12:01] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, vncviewer -fullscreen
[12:01] <ubuntu> levander: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/448880
[12:01] <spikebike> rockett and durable, I like the big sturdy al plate hinges
[12:01] <j-linux> spikebike: I typed "ibm thinkpad" into google and the second result is about running linux on thinkpads. :)
[12:01] <nawac> salut
[12:01] <Mabus06> But basically it keeps it at the same resolution I guess (taskbar is still large), except now the screen is bigger than my monitor.
[12:02] <Mabus06> So I don't know what that means exactly.
[12:02] <kaz> thanks... this will probably work now :] 
[12:02] <spikebike> no thin plastic crappy hinges (ala dell)
[12:02] <amparo_pzzi> to join two files .avi ????????????
[12:02] <amparo_pzzi> anyone
[12:02] <levander> ubuntu: in fact, maybe that 'mount -o bind' command is screwing things up, see if you can't umount that proc filesystem, use the output of a bare 'mount' command (bare = no args) to verify it's unmounted
[12:02] <Rockett18> spikebike> Thinkpads just wont die... definately going to be my next laptop purchase... currently have a big motha of a toshiba that's starting to feel old
[12:02] <logical_mark> The_Isle_of_Mark: I did vncviewer -fullscreen [my ip]  and I still have to scroll around the remote screen. Also what is the hot key to exit?
[12:02] <spikebike> yeah, I know a few folks that got tempted away from thinkpads and regret it
[12:02] <thechitowncubs> The_Isle_of_Mark, Hello?
[12:03] <levander> ubuntu: think you're fstab is okay, i don't know about all the options, but i imagine they don't screw anything up
[12:03] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, hi
[12:03] <AbdulSpiegel> _jason, its still not there, by the way where does a package go when its installed, i installed the vitualgameboy but i cant find it
[12:03] <logical_mark> Does anyone in here know of a webcam that is compatiable with linux?
[12:03] <thechitowncubs> The_Isle_of_Mark, alright, restarted x
[12:03] <levander> ubuntu: you may even need to reboot if you can't be sure that you haven't "over-mounted" proc
[12:03] <ubuntu> ok
[12:03] <worldmaster0> im out
[12:03] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, ok cool. sudo synclient -h to see if it lists your touchpad
[12:04] <ubuntu> its late
[12:04] <ubuntu> i go sleeping
[12:04] <ubuntu> try tomorrow
[12:04] <ubuntu> bye
[12:04] <ubuntu> thx for your help
[12:04] <levander> oh, ubuntu, i know the feeling
[12:04] <ubuntu> :)
[12:04] <levander> ubuntu: get some sleep!!
[12:04] <thechitowncubs> The_Isle_of_Mark, it says shmconfig is disabled but it isn't according to my xorg.conf
[12:04] <confrey> I have one slot pcmcia, the second may be is a sd reader, it's not working in linux, what's missing?
[12:04] <_jason> AbdulSpiegel, you don't see anything when you search for "zsnes"?  If so, please post your updated sources.list.  Check the games submenu in applications for virtualgameboy.  I don't use it so I'm not sure where it would install itself to
[12:04] <levander> bob2 doesn't hang out here anymore?
[12:05] <logical_mark> The_Isle_of_Mark: Did you read that last?
[12:05] <AbdulSpiegel> _jason, already posted the updated source: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5396
[12:05] <logical_mark> The_Isle_of_Mark: about vncviewer
[12:05] <JohnP789> What might cause slow DNS lookups in Breezy, when DNS lookups to the same server are very fast in WinXP on the same machine.
[12:05] <JohnP789> ?
[12:06] <Dr_Willis> ipv6 issue perhaps?
[12:06] <JohnP789> I don't think there's any ipv6 stuff on my network.
[12:06] <JohnP789> I've pasted my little DNS benchmark in the pastebin.
[12:06] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, yeah, um ctl-atl-enter?
[12:06] <JohnP789> time ./lotsadigs.sh takes >7 seconds.
[12:06] <amparo_pzzi> to join two files .avi ????????????
[12:07] <r3tex> what is the default filesystem on ubuntu?
[12:07] <_jason> AbdulSpiegel, oh you are using hoary.  Didn't see that before.  I don't know if it is in the hoary repos.  Have you considered upgrading to breezy?
[12:07] <crouton> ext3?
[12:07] <j-linux> Does anyone here have a thinkpad?  How is the customer service?  Wasn't it sold to a Chinese company  recently?
[12:07] <thechitowncubs> The_Isle_of_Mark, this is really weird...
[12:07] <logical_mark> The_Isle_of_Mark: And about still having to scroll?
[12:07] <amparo_pzzi> ntfs ............xd
[12:07] <j-linux> Ubuntu work ok on them?
[12:07] <j-linux> works
[12:07] <silent_scream> in which dir I can find kernel sources?
[12:07] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, change your local resolution to match that of the remote system
[12:07] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, what?
[12:07] <recon0> can somebody help me with a hardware acceleration problem...http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5398
[12:08] <robotgeek> silent_scream: /usr/src/
[12:08] <spikebike> j-linux yeah a bunch
[12:08] <thechitowncubs> The_Isle_of_Mark, is there any way that I can find out if this is software or hardware related because i had a little mishap carrying my laptop up to my room right before this happened... so :/
[12:08] <spikebike> no problems so far
[12:08] <_jason> AbdulSpiegel, I just searched the hoary repo, and zsnes is there.  Can you close synaptic and run this command in a  terminal: sudo apt-get update; apt-cache search zsnes
[12:08] <Fujitsu> recon0, what type of video card is it?
[12:08] <JohnP789> Could somebody time the many-digs script I pasted in the pastebin?  I think 11.6 seconds, my last timing, is way to slow.
[12:08] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, that is what we are trying to do, poll the touchpad for information about it :)
[12:08] <j-linux> spikebike: that's good to hear.  Toshiba was terrible with the customer service.  Otherwise I would buy another one.
[12:09] <recon0> Fujitsu, a nvidia
[12:09] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, does a regular mouse plugged in work...such as usb?
[12:09] <AbdulSpiegel> _jason, well ya i tried once, but good news i found the package and i installed, one problem tho i cant find it on the games submenu
[12:09] <Fujitsu> recon0, have you installed the drivers?
[12:09] <thechitowncubs> The_Isle_of_Mark, alrighty..y
[12:09] <thechitowncubs> Yes, my usb mouse works
[12:09] <thechitowncubs> And I can't get SHMConfig loaded
[12:09] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell recon0 about nvidia
[12:09] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, ah, I see...can you pastebin your xorg.conf?
[12:10] <recon0> fujitsu, i installed & enabled nvidia-glx, if that's what you mean
[12:10] <Fujitsu> recon0, yes.
[12:10] <Fujitsu> OK.
[12:10] <The_Isle_of_Mark> ubotu tell thechitowncubs about pastebin
[12:10] <Fujitsu> recon0, does your account have the "Use video acceleration" privilege?
[12:10] <blue-frog> recon0, with ubuntu nvidia drivers?
[12:11] <_jason> AbdulSpiegel, unfortunately I can't help you with using the zsnes emulator as I don't use it.  Try searching the forums and google if no one here can help.  You may also want to read the man page (probably: man zsnes).
[12:11] <recon0> fujistu, ??
[12:11] <thechitowncubs> http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/5399
[12:11] <AbdulSpiegel> _jason, what are you using?
[12:11] <blue-frog> recon0, paste your xorg.conf
[12:11] <Fujitsu> recon0, open up System->Administration->Users and Groups.
[12:11] <_jason> AbdulSpiegel, I don't use any emulator.  I don't play too many games
[12:11] <recon0> fujitsu, ok
[12:12] <recon0> fujitsu, it does
[12:12] <b_e_n_z> i have a dvd writer but ubuntu doesn't recognize that it can write (in disk management, it says the drive can only read dvd's)... how can i make ubuntu know that this dvd writer can write?  (same setup no problem under gentoo)
[12:12] <Fujitsu> recon0, find your user, double-click, and check the 'Privileges' tab.
[12:12] <thechitowncubs> The_Isle_of_Mark, did you get htat?
[12:12] <AbdulSpiegel> _jason, i see, thanks alot for the help tho
[12:12] <recon0> fujitsu, brb
[12:12] <Fujitsu> recon0, OK.
[12:12] <_jason> AbdulSpiegel, yw
[12:12] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, yeah hang on a sec...looks fine, but give me a bit
[12:13] <thechitowncubs> ok
[12:14] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, so a sudo lsof | grep -i psaux
[12:15] <thechitowncubs> nothing
[12:15] <hi-fo-web> hey
[12:15] <Fujitsu> hi-fo-web: Hi.
[12:15] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, ok sudo cat /proc/bus/input/devices | grep mouse0
[12:16] <hi-fo-web> what is a good program to get a trojan virues off of ur computer
[12:16] <edo> hi all
[12:16] <Drgb> hi everyone, what are critical commands to shut system down?????
[12:16] <Drgb> i mean
[12:16] <Drgb> key bindings
[12:16] <Drgb> my pc is stuck
[12:16] <thechitowncubs> H: Handlers=mouse0 event1 ts0
[12:16] <Fujitsu> hi-fo-web, what trojan!?
[12:17] <hi-fo-web> im not shure
[12:17] <Dr_Willis> Drgb,  alt-ctrl-backspace, and alt-ctrl-del
[12:17] <edo> help x kaffeine dvb (skystar2)
[12:17] <Fujitsu> hi-fo-web, how do you know you have one!?
[12:17] <hi-fo-web> on xp it is running to slow  becaues of it so i had to put in the live cd of linux
[12:17] <Fujitsu> hi-fo-web, is it on Linux?
[12:17] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, ok sudo cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:17] <The_Isle_of_Mark>  | grep synaptics
[12:17] <opnsrc> How do I change fonts in ubuntu KDE
[12:17] <hi-fo-web> nope
[12:17] <opnsrc> font size
[12:18] <Fujitsu> hi-fo-web, this is a Linux channel, there are others around that would be more appropriate...
[12:18] <hi-fo-web> avg sid it
[12:18] <opnsrc> where is the settings for that?
[12:18] <hoopdr> hi folks. i just helped convert a windows user ... that was fun!
[12:18] <hi-fo-web> said
[12:18] <thechitowncubs> (II) LoadModule: "synaptics"
[12:18] <thechitowncubs> (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/synaptics_drv.o
[12:18] <thechitowncubs> (II) Module synaptics: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
[12:18] <thechitowncubs> Synaptics Touchpad no synaptics event device found (checked 3 nodes)
[12:18] <thechitowncubs> (EE) Synaptics Touchpad no synaptics touchpad detected and no repeater device
[12:18] <thechitowncubs> (II) UnloadModule: "synaptics"
[12:18] <thechitowncubs> shit
[12:18] <thechitowncubs> SORRY
[12:18] <hi-fo-web> virues protector thing
[12:18] <thechitowncubs> :/
[12:18] <Fujitsu> hoopdr, it is fun, isn't it!
[12:18] <hi-fo-web> it didnt go away though
[12:18] <Fujitsu> Well, I converted a Red Hat user last night (my father, it was).
[12:18] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, your touchpad is bad
[12:18] <Mabus06> how do you chown every file in a folder?
[12:18] <hoopdr> only thing is i couldnt find wine.. is it in the badger set of packages?
[12:18] <thechitowncubs> The_Isle_of_Mark, fuck.
[12:18] <Fujitsu> hi-fo-web, we here are Linux people.
[12:18] <_jason> Mabus06, -R
[12:18] <macd> Mabus06, chown -r
[12:18] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, or at least the ribbon cable is unhooked
[12:19] <gratuit> has anyone here gotten mythgame to install? it requires a package that doesn't exist....
[12:19] <Mabus06> thanks, _jason, macd
[12:19] <hi-fo-web> just dont worrie about it i will formate it again
[12:19] <edo> nobody use skystar2 ?
[12:19] <hi-fo-web> can u download from here
[12:19] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, it unloaded the module since it didnt find the hardware, no hardware = hardware not connected/working
[12:19] <Mabus06> macd, only upper case R works btw
[12:19] <macd>  lowercase works for me
[12:20] <hi-fo-web> can u download from here???
[12:20] <hdp> hi all, i just tried to do a netinstall on a subnotebook, and after the first reboot the installer gives me a warning: the following packages have unmet dependencies libesd-alsa0: Conflicts: libesd0 but 0.2.36-1ubuntu5 is to be installed. any ideas?
[12:20] <Seveas> hi-fo-web, no
[12:20] <Dr_Willis> hi-fo-web,  Huh?
[12:20] <Mabus06> macd, says invalid option for me
[12:20] <hi-fo-web> o
[12:20] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, sorry to be the bearer of bad news
[12:20] <macd> interesting, Mabus06 use -R then ;)
[12:20] <Seveas> hdp, if you're trying dapper: known bug
[12:20] <Mabus06> Yeah I did, macd, lol
[12:20] <hdp> Seveas, nope, it's breezy. hope so... ;)
[12:21] <opnsrc> anyone know?
[12:21] <Seveas> hdp, that'd be really weird. Double check that it's not dapper please
[12:21] <hdp> k
[12:21] <hoopdr> another thing is that the poor guy is using a 56k modem. Are firefox and thunderbird set up to use the nearest comms device or do i need to fiddle. It showed up in the system properties tree of course.
[12:22] <macd> Has anyone seen gnome take the applications menu, and change it behavior:  Instead of the menu "droping down" on click, it drops down for a second then changes into a small grey box on the desktop, when clicked it simply vanishes.  Reselecting the applications menu again causes the same behavior
[12:22] <nalioth> thechitowncubs: please dont flood or curse in the channel
[12:22] <thechitowncubs> I know
[12:22] <thechitowncubs> The_Isle_of_Mark, guess what!
[12:22] <hdp> Seveas, i downloaded this netboot image: http://tinyurl.com/cv3kj
[12:22] <jgrieves> macd dapper
[12:22] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, what?
[12:22] <thechitowncubs> The_Isle_of_Mark, my Acer warranty runs out in 7 days!
[12:22] <thechitowncubs> hahahaha
[12:22] <macd> jgrieves, yep
[12:22] <Seveas> hdp, ah I'm mistaken - it's breezy that's broken with netboot
[12:23] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, nice!
[12:23] <jgrieves> macd check the forums
[12:23] <jgrieves> macd there are a couple of solutions
[12:23] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, get the RMA quick!
[12:23] <Seveas> elmo and kamion are discussing it now in #ubuntu-devel :)
[12:23] <macd> I have somewhat, but I will again.
[12:23] <Determinist> Seveas, lo mate, seems like your NX howto is gaining fans :P
[12:23] <hoopdr> is anyone willing to help me with my queries?
[12:23] <jgrieves> macd the post is something about applicaiton menu
[12:23] <macd> jgrieves, ty
[12:23] <jgrieves> macd there are 2 solutions in the post that work
[12:23] <Seveas> Determinist, :)
[12:24] <hdp> Seveas, i already did a netinstall on two subnotebooks via netboot, are there different versions out there?
[12:24] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, at least there is something positive in that situation
[12:24] <gratuit> how do I file a bug report on a borken package?
[12:25] <Seveas> hdp, it's a recent change in the archive that caused it
[12:25] <macd> ahhh I feel pretty dumb now
[12:25] <recon0> fujitsu, i think my problems olmost fixed,  now all i get is http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5400
[12:26] <hoopdr> wow this channel really went downhill
[12:26] <AbdulSpiegel> argg i need help
[12:26] <AbdulSpiegel> how do i install a package
[12:26] <AbdulSpiegel> ???
[12:26] <jake_> im trying to go into superuser mode, and it says authentication failure, and i KNOW im entering the right password
[12:26] <Fujitsu> AbdulSpiegel, what do you mean!?
[12:26] <macd> jake_ ubuntu uses sudo not su
[12:26] <Madpilot> gratuit: https://launchpad.net/malone/distros/ubuntu
[12:26] <hoopdr> goes with the growth of the community I guess
[12:26] <Fujitsu> recon0, paste your xorg.conf.
[12:26] <AbdulSpiegel> Fujitsu, well i found the darn zsnes package i was looking for, and i did that install thing
[12:26] <AbdulSpiegel> but now i cant find it
[12:27] <Fujitsu> What do you mean you can't find it? Where are you looking?
[12:27] <robotgeek> AbdulSpiegel: dpkg -L zsnes | less
[12:28] <opnsrc> Does anyone know how to change the KDE default font?
[12:28] <AbdulSpiegel> robotgeek, okay, great, now how do i run it??
[12:28] <recon0> fujitsu, ok http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5401
[12:28] <robotgeek> AbdulSpiegel: no clue
[12:28] <opnsrc> !font
[12:28] <ubotu> 'fixed' is the one true font!
[12:28] <Seveas> !forget font
[12:28] <ubotu> Seveas: i forgot font
[12:28] <opnsrc> !font size
[12:28] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, opnsrc
[12:28] <Madpilot> AbdulSpiegel: probably with "zsnes" in a terminal
[12:28] <Seveas> opnsrc, somewhere in kcontrol I guess
[12:29] <Fujitsu> I don't know, recon0. Have you followed all of the instructions in the Ubuntu Wiki?
[12:29] <DozeN> how much time?
[12:29] <hdp> Seveas, thanks for enlightening me, i already started to bang my head against the wall ;)
[12:29] <recon0> !nvidia
[12:29] <ubotu> [nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[12:29] <AbdulSpiegel> YAY I FUCKING FOUND IT
[12:29] <AbdulSpiegel> !!!
[12:29] <ubotu> ! is, like, what you add before a sentence to talk to me
[12:30] <Madpilot> well, he left before he got kicked for profanity, anyway... :P
[12:30] <robotgeek> lol
[12:30] <Fujitsu> Madpilot, heh.
[12:30] <silent_scream> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386/ is not a valid kernel source tree. what is going on ?
[12:30] <opnsrc> thanks
[12:31] <robotgeek> silent_scream: that's just headers?
[12:31] <recon0> fujitsu, i still have some work to do, i'll be right back
[12:31] <Fujitsu> That's what I would have thought, robotgeek.
[12:31] <opnsrc> found it, thanks
[12:31] <robotgeek> Fujitsu: :)
[12:31] <opnsrc> default is 10, why so small?
[12:32] <silent_scream> robotgeek, i don't understand what you mean... where exactly is the kernel-source?
[12:32] <robotgeek> silent_scream: what are you trying to compile?
[12:32] <silent_scream> lirc-modules-source
[12:32] <tritium> silent_scream, you only need headers to compile modules.
[12:33] <silent_scream> ok but it displays me "/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386/ is not a valid kernel source tree."
[12:33] <soeme> hello
[12:33] <Fujitsu> Hi soeme.
[12:33] <soeme> german speaking?
[12:33] <tritium> !de
[12:33] <ubotu> it has been said that de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[12:34] <soeme> thanks....
[12:34] <opnsrc> thanks
[12:35] <edo> help x kaffein anyone may help me ?
[12:35] <robotgeek> Fujitsu: lirc-modules-sources recommends either kernel-headers | kernel-source
[12:35] <soeme> !enlightenment
[12:35] <ubotu> enlightenment is, like, totally, at Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work; install: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=46105
[12:35] <Fujitsu> Why is it wanting a kernel source then!?
[12:35] <Seveas> robotgeek, linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[12:35] <robotgeek> silent_scream: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[12:35] <ardchoille> Someone told me Ubuntu 5.10 was simply Debian sid with a changed name. Is that even remotely true?
[12:36] <Pres-Gas> Are the fonts installed in ubuntu in a different location than debian?
[12:36] <tritium> no, ardchoille
[12:36] <silent_scream> robotgeek, i have them installed.
[12:36] <robotgeek> Seveas: not me, silent_scream wants to compile lirc-modules-source
[12:36] <Pres-Gas> I am getting "could not init font path element" on vnc
[12:36] <ardchoille> tritium: ok, thanks
[12:36] <Oceansblue> anyone running flightgear
[12:37] <Seveas> silent_scream, apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) gcc-3.4 build-essential module-assistant
[12:37] <Seveas> sudo module-assistant
[12:37] <silent_scream> Seveas, i have installed all of them
[12:37] <Seveas> silent_scream, then simply use module-assistant
[12:37] <recon0> fujitsu, i can't install  linux-resricted-modules-686
[12:37] <Fujitsu> recon0, why not?
[12:38] <recon0> fujitsu, it depends on a package, and when i try to install that package it says it depends on linux-image-2.6.12-10-686 but isn't installable
[12:38] <Fujitsu> recon0, linux-restricted-modules-386 if you are running the default kernel.
[12:38] <recon0> oh
[12:38] <silent_scream> Seveas, module assistand also  displays errors.
[12:39] <silent_scream> Seveas, take a look http://pastebin.ca/32430
[12:39] <nekostar> arg
[12:39] <nekostar> ok on this comp i had a sound.. o crap nvm
[12:39] <Trashcan> where is the proper place to put modprobe ndiswrapper on boot?
[12:40] <macd> make that into a shell script, then place it in /etc/init.d then run update-rc.d scriptnamehere
[12:40] <Trashcan> ok
[12:40] <Trashcan> thanks
[12:40] <Seveas> silent_scream, install bttv
[12:40] <nekostar> shyt
[12:40] <nekostar> yeah ok so i get this beating sound
[12:40] <nekostar> is there a way to tell ubuntu to totally reconfigure sound like it does when it installs?
[12:41] <nekostar> an equivalent to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[12:41] <recon0> fujitsu, i'm going to restart x now, brb
[12:41] <nekostar> WOW
[12:41] <silent_scream> Seveas, how ? by synaptic ?
[12:41] <hyphnated> Trashcan: or throw it in /etc/modules
[12:41] <nekostar> it reconfigured itself!!!!!
[12:41] <nekostar> wtf
[12:42] <hoopdr> +b -b -o +o hahehehahehehhahehehehaha
[12:42] <nekostar> lol hoopdr
[12:42] <Xenguy> nekostar: yes, that's a little flourish I threw in :-)
[12:42] <macd> hyphenated, yeah that would be much easier I suppsed
[12:42] <nekostar> Xenguy, you did that???????
[12:42] <hoopdr> irc truly is the playground of dreams
[12:42] <nekostar> DUDE  <3
[12:42] <macd> s/suppsed/suppose
[12:42] <Xenguy> nekostar: heheh
[12:42] <Seveas> silent_scream, yes
[12:42] <nekostar> hey i was wondering Xenguy
[12:42] <Seveas> sigh
[12:43] <nekostar> who does the torrent stuff for ubuntu?
[12:43] <nekostar> someone needs to um
[12:43] <nekostar> stabb
[12:43] <nekostar> or something
[12:43] <nekostar> but beyond that
[12:43] <Xenguy> nekostar: no idea, I'm not a Ubu developer or anything
[12:43] <nekostar> have you played with utorrent in windows ever?
[12:43] <nekostar> totally superior client..
[12:43] <nekostar> !_!
[12:43] <ubotu> nekostar: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[12:43] <Seveas> nekostar, offtopicness in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[12:43] <Xenguy> nope, haven't gotten around to torrent yet
[12:44] <nekostar> eh sorry Seveas
[12:44] <xfree> is it safe to remove firefox - +yelp - ?
[12:44] <silent_scream> Seveas, synaptic can't find bttv!
[12:44] <Xenguy> nekostar: utorrent eh?
[12:44] <nekostar> Seveas, who would i talk to about porting something like that?
[12:44] <nekostar> yeah
[12:44] <Seveas> !find bttv
[12:44] <Talisker> Hi, I've.. made a stupid mistake and I need your help fixing it
[12:44] <rubem> hi theere
[12:44] <nekostar> lets go to offtopic i guess
[12:44] <Fujitsu> Hrm... recon0 seems to be taking his time...
[12:44] <Talisker> I installed grub, and I wanted it to be the main boot loader, so I installed it on HDA, and now the system won't boot
[12:44] <rubem> how can i see how much memory my apps are consuming?
[12:44] <Talisker> Hi, I've.. made a stupid mistake and I need your help fixing it
[12:44] <Seveas> xfree, if you don't want them: sure
[12:44] <Fujitsu> Talisker, what does it do?
[12:44] <_jason> xfree, it is safe, but you will not have yelp (you will also lose the add-applications menu option).  yelp show's you help.
[12:44] <SataDmaProblem> hello, i have problem with my SATA, actually, when i am copying something to my hdd, from, i don't know, dvd or other partition, transfer is about 2mb/s. i think that is because UDMA is not enabled. how can i enable it ?
[12:44] <macd> rubem, top works well
[12:44] <Talisker> what does what do?
[12:44] <rodro> alguien habla espaol
[12:45] <rubem> macd?
[12:45] <Seveas> SataDmaProblem, sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/your_drive
[12:45] <Seveas> !es
[12:45] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:45] <Fujitsu> Talisker, what errors does it give, if any?
[12:45] <macd> rubem, the comand 'top'
[12:45] <rubem> macd thank you
[12:45] <dAndy> I am following the instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot
[12:45] <rubem> macd is there a GUI for that?
[12:46] <dAndy> is it normal for the debootstrap command to take a while
[12:46] <SataDmaProblem> problem:  sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/your_drive
[12:46] <Seveas> dAndy, yes
[12:46] <masingerz> yo rodro
[12:46] <SataDmaProblem> wow...
[12:46] <SataDmaProblem> HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[12:46] <macd> I think the ubuntu desktop has under the system menu --> administration -->systemmonitor
[12:46] <Seveas> SataDmaProblem, replayce /dev/your_drive with the actual name of the device
[12:46] <Max> Hi
[12:46] <HrdwrBoB> er
[12:46] <xfree> Seveas, _jason  i will install it again later after i install firefox 1.5
[12:46] <nalioth> Seveas: yes, i dont either, BUT i'd rather have a 'safe' one out there that is advertised by the ubuntu community than the unsafe shit that existed prior
[12:46] <HrdwrBoB> SATA doesn't use 'DMA' with hdparm
[12:47] <nalioth> bah
[12:47] <Seveas> nalioth, true, I'll have a look :)
[12:47] <HrdwrBoB> there's no need (and indeed no ability) to set it
[12:47] <Seveas> xfree, that's not possible yet
[12:47] <Max> Hello
[12:47] <_jason> xfree, will you be installing firefox through a package manager?
[12:48] <SataDmaProblem> Seveas, i know that, /dev/sda
[12:48] <SataDmaProblem> /dev/sda:
[12:48] <SataDmaProblem>  setting using_dma to 1 (on)
[12:48] <SataDmaProblem>  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[12:48] <HrdwrBoB> SataDmaProblem: DMA is alreadu enabled
[12:48] <HrdwrBoB> you can't do that
[12:48] <HrdwrBoB> are you reading what I'm saying?
[12:48] <Seveas> SataDmaProblem, indeed, I'm stupid, listen to HrdwrBoB :)
[12:48] <Max> Any body ever got stuck in the partioner, in beetween manual partion, sofware raid LVM and guided partitioning?
[12:49] <nekostar> dam this thing is so pimp
[12:49] <nekostar> hehe
[12:49] <nekostar> i changed all the hardware around and its totally good with it
[12:49] <SataDmaProblem> HrdwrBoB, but my processor is working with 100%, why that?
[12:49] <HrdwrBoB> SataDmaProblem: if you are copying data it still uses the CPU
[12:50] <dAndy> Seveas: so debootstrap is sitting at: I: Checking component main on http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu...
[12:50] <HrdwrBoB> SataDmaProblem: you might be in a high wait state
[12:50] <dAndy> and has been for > 10min
[12:50] <Xappe> xfree: actually, no need for removal. check: http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/45917/ and change the file names to the new release files of firefox
[12:50] <HrdwrBoB> SataDmaProblem: what are you doing
[12:50] <dAndy> strace shows no activity, just stalled on a read
[12:50] <dAndy> restarting the process doesnt help
[12:51] <SataDmaProblem> HrdwrBoB, what do yo mean? when I'm copying data, i can't do anything else..
[12:51] <HrdwrBoB> SataDmaProblem: from/to the drive?
[12:51] <HrdwrBoB> and it's showing 100% CPU utilisation?
[12:52] <HrdwrBoB> why you run 'top', what is the distribution of CPU usage
[12:52] <Talisker> Is there anyway to mount my hard drives from the livecd without editing fstab?
[12:52] <SataDmaProblem> from DVD/CD to hard disk
[12:52] <SataDmaProblem> HrdwrBoB, from DVD/CD to hard disk
[12:53] <HrdwrBoB> SataDmaProblem: so, perhaps you need DMS enabled *ON THE CD*
[12:53] <Mother> hi people
[12:53] <HrdwrBoB> DMA
[12:53] <HrdwrBoB> not on the hard drive
[12:53] <SataDmaProblem> HrdwrBoB, or even from one partition to another
[12:53] <HrdwrBoB> what is the CD device
[12:53] <Xappe> Talisker: use the "mount" command
[12:53] <Mother> just so you know the sort of guy you have here
[12:53] <Mother> http://www.sonar-security.com/tony-montanna-mainchan.log
[12:53] <khalif> Hello to all! :0
[12:53] <khalif> :)
[12:53] <Talisker> Xappe, mount won't let me mount anything that's not in fstab
[12:53] <xfree> _jason, yes firefox1.5.deb
[12:54] <_jason> xfree, can I ask you where you found it?
[12:54] <Mother> he's insulting everyone on other channels, now he goes by proffesional-hac
[12:54] <proffesional-hac> no i am only insulting lammers on remote-exploit
[12:54] <khalif> Where could I get some help with installing icons in KDE?
[12:54] <proffesional-hac> mother is a pedofile
[12:54] <Xappe> Talisker: sudo mount -t <fileystem> -o <options> <drive> <mountpoint>
[12:55] <Mother> roffle you've been banned from #remote-exploit, and you're abusing us on #whax
[12:55] <khalif> Total noob here ;)
[12:55] <xfree> _jason, this bulid.sh tool create it for me after i download it from mozilla firefox.tgz
[12:55] <SataDmaProblem> HrdwrBoB, was that question for me? i have LG cdrw and NEC dvdrw...but...why is that important?
[12:55] <Mother> don't want to spill this over, have a good one guys
[12:55] <_jason> xfree, ok well firefox1.5 isn't officially supported so proceed at your own risk
[12:55] <xfree> _jason, you can found about it on wiki.ubuntu.com
[12:56] <khalif> Seveas: where could I find some help on installing icons in KDE?
[12:56] <Seveas> khalif, #kubuntu maybe if no one in here can help
[12:57] <khalif> Seveas: Thank you...much appreciated!
[12:58] <barongas> How do I mount an ntfs drive as rw?
[12:58] <Seveas> barongas, you can't
[12:58] <barongas> Seveas, is there any way to transfer files between my ubuntu drive and my ntfs drive then?
[12:59] <Seveas> barongas, use explore2fs on windows
[12:59] <Hentai^XP2> ifs
[12:59] <barongas> Seveas, explore2fs will detect my ext3 drives?
[12:59] <Seveas> yes
[12:59] <barongas> Seveas, sweet, thanks
[01:00] <Hentai^XP2> barongas http://www.fs-driver.org/
[01:00] <Talisker> err..
[01:01] <Talisker> which of the files in /boot is actually the kernel?
[01:01] <Talisker> vmlinuz?
[01:01] <lllmanulll> Yep
[01:01] <Red-Sox> this channel is overwhelmed
[01:01] <Red-Sox> ubuntu is crazy popular
[01:01] <cafuego> Is it? I didn't mean to!
[01:01] <Seveas> Talisker, vmlinuz-* are kernels
[01:02] <Seveas> :)
[01:02] <cafuego> He's sleep in g on my couch atm :-)
[01:03] <barongas> partition hdc1 would in grubs menu.lst transfer to hd2,0 ?
[01:03] <misfit_toy> what will they think of next? a couch atm, withdraw money while watching tv and/or napping
[01:03] <FliesLikeABrick> yeah barongas it should
[01:04] <barongas> FliesLikeABrick, thanks.
[01:04] <starscalling> yay
[01:04] <starscalling> ok
[01:04] <starscalling> so is there a tool to just make ubuntu the second install ?
[01:04] <starscalling> from windows
[01:05] <starscalling> or do i need something special to deal with the ntfs for the install
[01:05] <Fujitsu> !enter
[01:05] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[01:05] <RedRose> how do i connect to X11:1 over the net?
[01:05] <cafuego> starscalling: Linux and NTFS are not fiends.
[01:05] <Seveas> cafuego, ghe, the new usplash is.... funny :)
[01:05] <Dr_Willis> second install?
[01:05] <starscalling> eh i c
[01:05] <cafuego> Seveas: :-)
[01:05] <nelo> Hello, I am trying to burn a VIDEO_TS to a dvd, however, nautilus tells me that there is not enough space. The file size = 4.1 gigs, which should fit in the DVD. The actual error message is "file image creation failed"
[01:05] <nelo> any ideas?
[01:06] <starscalling> Dr_Willis i was thinking perhaps i could just make ubuntu the second os on this computer.. as there are still things that are easier to do in windows for me than constantly figure out in ubuntu... because my learning curve is eh not the greatest at times :)
[01:06] <khalif> Nobody over @ #kubuntu is talking. Could someone help me out for a sec?
[01:06] <Dr_Willis> nelo,  try a sample/test with a smaller sized file.
[01:06] <cafuego> starscalling: Yes, you can install it as second OS without ANY problems.
[01:06] <Dr_Willis> starscalling,  Dual booting Linux/Windows is easy. Thats what "GRUB" is all about.
[01:06] <starscalling> ah
[01:07] <starscalling> so what tool do i need to trim the ntfs drive ?
[01:07] <shelika> yes khalif?
[01:07] <Dr_Willis> "personally" i perfer to have windows and linux each on their own totally seperate hard drives.
[01:07] <khalif> I would like to install some new icons in KDE, but they're all png's...
[01:07] <starscalling> hum...
[01:07] <Seveas> starscalling, the ubuntu installer can do that for you
[01:07] <starscalling> naw 20 gigs for windows should be fine :)
[01:08] <Dr_Willis> i thought the ubuntu installer had a resize ntfs feature.. but you Will want to scandisk/Defrat the Windows drive first.
[01:08] <starscalling> Seveas it will trim the ntfs partition to make room for the ubuntu partition?
[01:08] <Dr_Willis> and theres always risks.. backup anything Imporntant.. (always a good idea)
[01:08] <khalif> how can I install them using the icon manager since they're not packaged?
[01:08] <starscalling> or should i now that im in windows convert it all to fat32>?
[01:08] <starscalling> or try :P
[01:08] <macd> Starfire, you dont want to convert your NTFS to FAT32
[01:08] <Dr_Willis> khalif,  install them to do what? :P i just normally make a /home/username/icons dir.
[01:08] <dAndy> Seveas: you were right in the end, debootstrap finally got of its butt and finished :)
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> khalif,  or track down some icon 'themes' to replace the system icons
[01:09] <shelika> khalif: and are they global or app specific?
[01:10] <john_> The_Isle_of_Mark, you there?
[01:10] <khalif> See I thought that I had some, but they're not bundled together as a theme. I have both....
[01:10] <khalif> I found them on Yellowicon.com
[01:10] <john_> The_Isle_of_Mark, well... my touchpad came to life for some reason!
[01:10] <starscalling> macd why wouldt i wanna convert it to fat32?
[01:10] <john_> The_Isle_of_Mark, do you have any idea what could have caused that?
[01:11] <starscalling> i know there is native linux support for fat32 is all
[01:11] <khalif> So I should just make a folder in my home foldeer to store my icons and the icon manager can pull them from there?
[01:11] <The_Isle_of_Mark> john_, you probably have a bad connection on the ribbon cable that connects it to the mainboard
[01:11] <The_Isle_of_Mark> john_, I dont know that it would be reliable
[01:11] <shelika> yes, you should khalif
[01:11] <khalif> The icons come in folders for all of their different sizes.....
[01:11] <john_> The_Isle_of_Mark, thats not good
[01:12] <The_Isle_of_Mark> john_, it isnt, you are right
[01:12] <khalif> One more question....
[01:12] <john_> The_Isle_of_Mark, so is that a hard thing to access in general?
[01:12] <The_Isle_of_Mark> john_, really depends on the model. Sorry, but I am fixing dinner so I have to go for a while
[01:12] <john_> The_Isle_of_Mark, ok thanks for your help
[01:13] <khalif> I found some system themes of KDE-look.org that I downloaded. I installed theme using theme manager, but when I applied theme nothing happened. Do you think that the theme could've been messed up?
[01:13] <krix> hello there.
[01:14] <khalif> hello krix
[01:14] <shelika> could be, but I doubt it
[01:14] <krix> if i want to create a package for a firefox extension (from a .xpi file) then what i need to do for that ? I mean i see an install.rdf in the XPI file but can not figure out what can i do with that ?
[01:14] <krix> any example packages or some url about this article ?
[01:14] <macd> starscalling,  NTFS is a vast improvemt over FAT32 in speed, reliability and security, why would you "downgrade" that just to be linux compat on your filesystem?  It doesnt make sense to me
[01:14] <Seveas> krix, you'd better look on the ffox website
[01:14] <krix> Seveas, hm, maybe you are right, i just only thought that somebody here made some ubuntu package form some extenstion and i can see an example ;)
[01:14] <_jason> krix, did you try opening the file with firefox?
[01:15] <krix> _jason, i want to package the extension.
[01:15] <_jason> krix, never mind, thought you just wanted to install
[01:15] <krix> not install as user.
[01:15] <soundray> macd, depending on one's priorities, Linux compatibility could be reason enough...
[01:15] <krix> _jason, ;)
[01:15] <khalif> I don't have a way to connect to the net using the laptop which is what I have Kubuntu on. I use my iMac. Do you think that the theme isn't working because the laptop isn't connected to the net?
[01:15] <_jason> krix, good luck :)
[01:15] <macd> soundray, then one should have 2 machines and use samba
[01:16] <shelika> no, don't think that's the problem khalif
[01:16] <krix> _jason, thanks. :)
[01:16] <jirwin> hello
[01:16] <soundray> macd, I for one am much happier with FAT32 because I only ever use Windows if I get an attachment that I can't refuse and that Openoffice chokes on.
[01:16] <jirwin> I am running breezy, trying to get an atheros 5212 wifi card working
[01:16] <jirwin> it detects that it is there
[01:16] <soundray> s/refuse/reject/
[01:16] <chrisx2> .
[01:17] <chrisx2> 0
[01:17] <chrisx2> +--
[01:17] <chrisx2> ....2*
[01:17] <gnomefreak> this is weird
[01:17] <chrisx2> ********+
[01:17] <macd> soundray, good enough reason for you then I guess ;)
[01:17] <khalif> The theme that I downloaded was "KDE X" off of KDE-look.org; It's supposed to give the desktop the OS X appearance...
[01:17] <jirwin> but, it isn't able to pickup dhcp or scan for ssid
[01:18] <jirwin> when I do lspci i get  Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc.: Unknown device 001a (rev 01)
[01:18] <soundray> macd, also in my experience, if a FAT32 system does have a problem, it's easier to fix than if an NTFS one does.
[01:18] <khalif> You think that I have to set permissions for the file maybe since I copied it from my iMac to the laptop?
[01:18] <jirwin> now I know the chipset that it is on my laptop, is there a way to specify which one to use
[01:19] <jirwin> it looks like it didn't pick that up on installation
[01:19] <jirwin> i am using madwifi
[01:19] <barongas> Hmmm, the multibooting didn't work. It says Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7 and then does nothing
[01:20] <gnomefreak> does ubuntu have an auto fix grub off live cd? like pop it in and it will fix grub or do i still have to use /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[01:20] <gnomefreak> live cd or install either
[01:21] <bob832> just noticed the channel topic and was wondering, any particular reason firefox 1.5 will not be in breezy?  is it a bad thing to install it?
[01:21] <kbrooks> no
[01:21] <cyphase> Why does the update icon come up for accounts that can't update?
[01:21] <cyphase> i.e. don't have permission
[01:21] <soundray> jirwin, I think there is a way to modify the madwifi source to make a device known to the driver. Have you read http://www.marlow.dk/site.php/tech/madwifi and linked pages therein?
[01:21] <gnomefreak> bob832, its not gonna be in ubuntus backports cause its not stable enough for ubuntu
[01:22] <korhalf|CS> hows the midi support for ubuntu?>
[01:22] <kbrooks> bob832, breezy is frozen. no new application(s)
[01:22] <kbrooks> gnomefreak, huh?
[01:22] <kbrooks> gnomefreak, explain
[01:22] <bob832> oh, i am running it now with no problem
[01:22] <gnomefreak> kbrooks, my understanding is its not stable enough for ubuntu to backport them yet but they might be backported at a later date
[01:22] <khalif> Hey gnomefreak, I just wanted to thank you for all of your help yesterday!
[01:22] <jirwin> soundray: no I haven't...reading now
[01:22] <barongas> cyphase, only root can update and most people aren't logged in as root, but rather use the password to update
[01:22] <soundray> gnomefreak, bob832, I think it's not ff itself, but some of the dependencies that are considered unstable.
[01:22] <cyphase> barongas, i know..
[01:23] <bimberi> cyphase: good question.  so they can nag the sysadmin i guess :P
[01:23] <Seveas> soundray, almost :)
[01:23] <cyphase> but there are accounts that can't even sudo
[01:23] <kbrooks> so?
[01:23] <barongas> cyphase, oh, I didn' know that
[01:23] <Seveas> firefox1.5 would require recompilations from things in main
[01:23] <kbrooks> Seveas, ... why?
[01:23] <Seveas> and since things in main cannot link against things in backports, this is a no-go
[01:23] <kbrooks> Seveas, thats insane
[01:23] <gnomefreak> kbrooks,  you asked me to explain i did
[01:23] <khalif> I finally figured out why Ubuntu was coming up..... there is a bug in it with the drum sound that plays when the useer/pass screen appears.
[01:23] <cyphase> so they shouldn't be bothered by it
[01:23] <Seveas> kbrooks, firefox api and abi changed massively
[01:24] <_jason> khalif, I think it is suppose to do that
[01:24] <kbrooks> Seveas, backward compat is important
[01:24] <soundray> jirwin, HTH. I got madwifi to work with the help of this page before it started working out of the box.
[01:24] <gnomefreak> bongo sound :)
[01:24] <bob832> so is it safe to run 1.5 in ubuntu?
[01:24] <os2mac> hi all can someone give me a hand trying to configure a pcmcia nic (DWL-630) on a dell inspiron 8000
[01:24] <trendkill> hey guys, i just nuked my system when i did a dd /dev/hdc instead of a dd /dev/hdc1...i realized it only 10 seconds into the operation...is there a chance i can recover a partition that is further down the hardrive^
[01:24] <thrice`> Seveas: and doesn't ubuntu use binary anyways?
[01:24] <Seveas> bob832, if you install it from mozilla sources into /usr/local: fairly safe
[01:24] <Seveas> thrice`, libraries...
[01:24] <khalif> I had to go into the GRUB and add some thing called "irqpoll" to the kernal boot. After I did that, it started right up for me... :)
[01:24] <kbrooks> thrice`, src -> binary
[01:25] <Seveas> yelp for instance uses a firefox library
[01:25] <soundray> bob832, well, it's very unlikely to ruin your system if you got it to work in the first place...
[01:25] <_jason> bob832, it's safe but follow the wiki
[01:25] <Seveas> ff1.5 in backports would mean yelp unusable
[01:25] <bob832> don't really remember how i did it - found a how to on the forums
[01:25] <kbrooks> Seveas, yes i see
[01:25] <dell500> just wondering, but what app makes the taskbar work?
[01:25] <rubem> which is the name of the package for compiling things?  build-essencials?
[01:25] <Seveas> build-essential
[01:25] <gnomefreak> rubem,  no s
[01:25] <cyphase> Seveas, but isn't backports for tech-savvy users
[01:25] <cyphase> if they enable it
[01:25] <kbrooks> Seveas, how did the devekioers figure out that the firefix api changed
[01:25] <cyphase> they should know the conseqquences
[01:25] <cyphase> :)
[01:25] <Seveas> cyphase, no, for 1337-ricer-bleeding-edge users, who on average are not tech savvy
[01:26] <Axioein> Could some one help me talking to serial ports? I am being denied.
[01:26] <cyphase> Seveas, ah
[01:26] <kbrooks> Seveas, elite&
[01:26] <khalif> I decided to go with kubuntu though; much easier.... at least it will be when I figure out how to install these themes and icons correctly!
[01:26] <kbrooks> er, *
[01:26] <khalif> :) :)
[01:26] <shelik1> khalif: lol
[01:26] <gnomefreak> khalif,  lol
[01:27] <khalif> I can't wait til I can graduate from being a NOOB!
[01:27] <rubem> gnomefreak build-essencial ?
[01:27] <gnomefreak> build-essential
[01:27] <rubem> gnamefreak thank you
[01:27] <khalif> I have one last question and then I'll quit bothering you guys...
[01:28] <starscalling> bah
[01:28] <soundray> khalif, it may never happen. I've been using Linux since kernel 1.2.9, but it just develops faster than I can keep up with...
[01:28] <starscalling> keep em comin
[01:28] <gnomefreak> rubem,  your welcome but Seveas told you the answer way up there
[01:28] <kbrooks> khalif, a stupid question is one not asked
[01:28] <khalif> The package manager... that's for managing the libraries that Ubuntu uses right?
[01:28] <Seveas> kbrooks, crap
[01:28] <Seveas> that means I have tons of stupid questions :/
[01:28] <Xenguy> khalif: dependencies
[01:28] <kbrooks> khalif, no
[01:28] <gnomefreak> khalif, thats for gettting software :)
[01:29] <kbrooks> khalif, not just libraries*
[01:29] <kbrooks> Seveas, heh
[01:29] <Seveas> khalif, libraries and all other packages
[01:29] <gnomefreak> khalif, the package manager lists software avalible from your sources
[01:29] <Axioein> Can I write a file to a serial port?
[01:29] <soundray> Axioein, sure.
[01:29] <Seveas> Axioein, cat file >> /dev/ttyS0
[01:29] <Xenguy> Axioein: what are you trying to do?
[01:30] <khalif> See I was looking for some web development software to use since I can't use dreamwweaver in ubuntu and I didn't see any thing in the package manager....
[01:30] <bimberi> khalif: nvu
[01:30] <Seveas> khalif, nvu and screem are popular
[01:30] <soundray> khalif, check out screem
[01:30] <gnomefreak> khalif,  depends what you want to write
[01:30] <Xenguy> khalif: nvu seems to be something newish
[01:30] <Seveas> vim!
[01:30] <gnomefreak> lol @vim
[01:30] <bimberi> lol Seveas
[01:30] <Xenguy> vi!
[01:30] <Axioein> I am writting an small application in perl to read serial data... but the device that communicates over the serial port isn't with me.
[01:30] <khalif> What would those be under in the package manager?
[01:30] <soundray> ed!
[01:30] <ajmitch> Seveas: no wars here please :)
[01:31] <Seveas> !start an editor war
[01:31] <ubotu> gedit is better than xemacs.
[01:31] <Seveas> ajmitch, ;)
[01:31] <Xenguy> haha
[01:31] <gnomefreak> khalif,  there should be a search you can do
[01:31] <Axioein> So I am trying to emulate the data that is being sent.
[01:31] <khalif> ok...
[01:31] <soundray> ubotu: no way!
[01:31] <ubotu> soundray: No idea
[01:31] <_jason> notepad under wine!
[01:31] <soundray> See, I knew it.
[01:31] <soundray> echo <html> >homepage.html
[01:32] <Seveas> soundray, html: file not found
[01:32] <linux_newb> ive just installed ubuntu.  i downloaded xmms and im trying to play mp3s but its really quiet, is there another volume control somewhere
[01:32] <Xenguy> gnomefreak: keyboard kung-fu they call it; too busy for me
[01:32] <Seveas> (hint: quote the tag)
[01:32] <soundray> Seveas, :)
[01:32] <khalif> I just want to be able to so some PHP, XHTML and CSS programming for right now on the laptop. all my ActionScript will be done on my iMac....
[01:32] <gnomefreak> Xenguy, lol
[01:32] <misfit_toy> !mp3
[01:32] <ubotu> I heard mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats.
[01:33] <Axioein> Thanks Seveas. I was trying to pipe it rather then append it.
[01:33] <bimberi> linux_newb: try double-clicking on the volume applet and look for the PCM control
[01:33] <gnomefreak> khalif, if using kde kdevelop iis a good starter IDE if your starting out its graphical :)
[01:33] <Axioein> I see the folly of my ways.
[01:33] <soundray> Axioein, just curious: what's at the end of your serial port?
[01:33] <Seveas> Any UK residents here who have a spare Breezy CD?
[01:33] <khalif> Would kdevelop be in the package manager?
[01:33] <soundray> Seveas, yep!
[01:33] <misfit_toy> linux_newb, try typing "alsamixer" in a terminal and cranking anything not cranked
[01:34] <khalif> Or would I have to go online to get it?
[01:34] <gnomefreak> khalif, yes in kubuntu
[01:34] <gnomefreak> and ubuntu
[01:34] <Seveas> soundray, can I pm you?
[01:34] <gnomefreak> khalif,  packagemanager
[01:34] <khalif> Ok, thanks gnomefreak!
[01:34] <linux_newb> ok thnx
[01:34] <soundray> Seveas, sure, do I have to do something (still an IRC newbie)?
[01:34] <gnomefreak> khalif,  no problem
[01:34] <khalif> Talk to you guys later!
[01:35] <gnomefreak> khalif,  there really not a lot of packages to get from net unless you want an extra
[01:35] <gnomefreak> you have to*
[01:35] <Axioein> Soundray: It is a CTD
[01:35] <Axioein> Conductivity, Temperature. Depth sensor
[01:35] <soundray> Axioein, not that that makes me smarter...
[01:35] <soundray> Axioein, okay.
[01:36] <gnomefreak> is there a way to use the install cd to fix grub sutomatically without reinstalling ubuntu?
[01:36] <Axioein> Soundray: Also there will be a flow meter, compass, and gps.
[01:36] <linux_newb> hmmm ok i did that, and its louder, but surely it can go louder?
[01:36] <jenda> gnomefreak: just stop it after the grub install?
[01:37] <gnomefreak> linux_newb, try turning you speakers up too
[01:37] <linux_newb> yes they are at max
[01:37] <gnomefreak> jenda,  thats after the system is installed
[01:37] <ramza3> what is the difference between synaptic removal and complete removal
[01:37] <Axioein> Soundray: I am going to Antarctica with a sled that gets towed through the water and I am collecting the data.
[01:37] <soundray> Axioein, seriously?
[01:38] <Pablo> o.O
[01:38] <Axioein> soundray: Seriously.
[01:38] <chrisx2> how do i use ./ with sudo ?
[01:38] <soundray> Axioein, well I'm glad you're not relying on some commercial OS.
[01:38] <dishfish> Axioein : Antarctica WOW send me some photos of penguins!
[01:38] <os2mac> anyone around to help with some hardware oddities?
[01:39] <nalioth> chrisx2: sudo ./file
[01:39] <Seveas> !tell os2mac about anyone
[01:39] <john_> os2mac, yes
[01:39] <Axioein> soundray, I am hoping that this way is easier... rather than messing around with VB... which always reminds me of VD (also it is a touch more stable).
[01:39] <chrisx2> nalioth, it doesnt work...
[01:39] <dishfish> Axioein what data do u collect?
[01:39] <os2mac> problems connecting to the lan using a DWL-630 pcmcia wireless nic (atheros chipset)
[01:39] <nalioth> chrisx2: is the file "executable"?
[01:39] <Techie_dude> .can someone help me with something please
[01:39] <chrisx2> sudo: ./xfce4-4.2.2-installer.bin: command not found
[01:40] <Seveas> os2mac, try the latest drivers
[01:40] <robotgeek> os2mac: is it the airplus card?
[01:40] <soundray> dishfish, conductivity, temperature, depth :)
[01:40] <Axioein> I am sure someone can Techie_dude
[01:40] <Seveas> os2mac, see the madwifi page on the wiki
[01:40] <gnomefreak> .bin isnt executable is it?
[01:40] <nalioth> chrisx2: "chmod +x xfce4<tab>"
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> .bin means nothing
[01:40] <os2mac> I just recompiled and did the madwifi thing and nothing corrected
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> its just a commn extension for 'self installing files' tht are ment to be 'ran'
[01:40] <Techie_dude> okay... i am downloading Thunder bird from the mozilla website.okay. after i use the tar command to unzip it what do i do
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> chmod +x whatever.bin     sh ./whatever.bin
[01:41] <gnomefreak> Dr_Willis, .bin=binary
[01:41] <macd> Techie_dude, have you consulted the documentation included with ThunderBird?
[01:41] <Telep> Hmm, I'm sort of getting anxious. I just replaced my laptod HDD because the old one failed, but I'm still getting the same weird behaviour as before, constant HDD activity
[01:41] <soundray> Techie_dude, are you running Ubuntu?
[01:41] <chrisx2> ty Dr_Willis  it worked
[01:41] <Axioein> Techie_dude: why not use apt-get  to install it.... or synaptic?
[01:41] <bimberi> gnomefreak: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24113 (not tried it myself tho)
[01:41] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  .bin - dosnet really mean much of anything actually. :P it could benamed  whynot.runme.
[01:41] <Techie_dude> yes yes i am
[01:41] <nalioth> gnomefreak: a bin is also a container file
[01:42] <Techie_dude> and yes i have consulted it before and it dosen't help at all
[01:42] <soundray> Techie_dude, ^ Axioein
[01:42] <Seveas> Techie_dude, then don't download it from a website, but use the package manager to install the Ubuntu thunderbird package
[01:42] <Dr_Willis> a .bin file could be just a fancy script.
[01:42] <gnomefreak> Dr_Willis, isnt the reason its labled.bin is to let you know its a binary file?
[01:42] <Techie_dude> okay....still could you tel me how to do it so i can do files like this in the future?
[01:42] <nalioth> gnomefreak: no. a bin can be and executable or a conatainer file
[01:42] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  not really.. its just an annoying practice.. technicially isent EVERY file a 'binary' file?
[01:42] <jenda> gnomefreak: I meant the grub install
[01:42] <linux_newb> im having problems setting up samba to share a windows network drive, is there and easier way to send files
[01:43] <macd> typicaly after you un archive a file, you would configure then make it
[01:43] <Techie_dude> okay
[01:43] <macd> ^^was directed at Techie_dude
[01:43] <Dr_Willis> linux_newb,  what problems?
[01:43] <barongas> Anyone a grub-ninja? I can't get my windoze hd to work at all
[01:43] <Techie_dude> .....i tried red hat and it dosen't stand up to ubuntu i hate they way they use GNOME
[01:43] <soundray> linux_newb, to access files on a Win box, you don't need Samba.
[01:43] <linux_newb> well i'm trying to follow the instructions but im such a n00b and its confusing
[01:43] <gnomefreak> jenda,  yes i know but the partion is before the grub install so i would have to run through partion and system base install first
[01:43] <Techie_dude> it is just an ugly os
[01:43] <Dr_Willis> linux_newb,  i normally instll samba, then use 'sudo passwd -a USERYouwanttoAccessShares' then sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[01:44] <macd> Techie_dude, redhat and ubuntu are the same OS, packaged differently
[01:44] <linux_newb> does samba need to be on the windows box too?
[01:44] <linux_newb> :-S
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> linux_newb,  im not sure how the default samba setup for ubuntu sets user passwords.. but i normally set the wndws xp users  and linux passwords to be the same. (easier for my wife to rember)
[01:44] <Techie_dude> i know but redhat is ugly
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> samba is the linux Implentation of the windows "network neighbothood stuff"
[01:44] <jenda> gnomefreak: run expert?
[01:45] <salvador> HI
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> linux_newb,  so thats a NO. :P
[01:45] <soundray> Dr_Willis, are you sure he needs samba and not just smbfs?
[01:45] <salvador> i canot acces my usb Drive
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> linux_newb,  so thats a No.. its allready there.
[01:45] <S_Gramps> Hello
[01:45] <linux_newb> ok
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> soundray,  i cant say that ive ever just installed/used smbfs to be honest.
[01:45] <gratuit> Dr_Willis: I don't think the default ubuntu samba set up creates samba passwords at all, I think you have to do it manually
[01:46] <edo> anyone use dvb skystar2 ?
[01:46] <salvador> i canot acces my usb Drive how can I acces to it?
[01:46] <dataangel> Problem: I was trying to add myself to a group with usermod from the command line, and I accidentally made it so I'm not a member of any groups. This means I can't use sudo. How do I get sudo back without sudo rights? :P
[01:46] <Dr_Willis> gratuit,  yea.. thats a bit annoying at times.. and also I belvive the default samba setup makes the HOMES to be "read only" which i have to fix also.
[01:46] <linux_newb> well all i need to do for now is move a few files over, is there a program that will just do that
[01:46] <Dr_Willis> linux_newb,  easy way. install the ssh server, and on windows box use the 'winscp' client
[01:47] <bimberi> dataangel: boot into recovery mode and put yourself back in the groups (esp. "admin" for sudo access)
[01:47] <soundray> salvador, can you see it listed when you enter lsusb in a terminal?
[01:47] <dataangel> bimberi: k, thx
[01:47] <burnhamd> hey guys  I got a problem with samba
[01:47] <linux_newb> okay
[01:47] <salvador> YES
[01:47] <Dr_Willis> its a samba fest!
[01:47] <Dr_Willis> :P
[01:47] <dataangel> bimberi: Does recovery mode ask for a password?
[01:47] <Biscuitian_Warhe> salvador: What distro are you using, whats the drive formated as, and is it plugged in, on, etc?
[01:47] <linux_newb> how do i go about installing ssh
[01:47] <bimberi> dataangel: no
[01:47] <jrw146> Question... I've used 5.04 in the passed, but started to install 5.10 on different system. Goes thru the install just fine, but when it first tries to actually load (To say the login screen), it goes totally black. Its an old video card so I don't think its a video issue, but on this system, 5.04 and 5.10 do the same.
[01:47] <macd> linux_newb, apt-get install sshd
[01:47] <jrw146> Any clue as to the cause?
[01:48] <salvador> wen i inserted the USB drive to the usb the icon apears in the desktop but I can not acces to it
[01:48] <Dr_Willis> !info sshd
[01:48] <bimberi> dataangel: it should boot straight to a root shell
[01:48] <linux_newb> ty macd
[01:48] <macd> salvador, its possible the filesystem is not mountable
[01:48] <soundray> salvador, what happens when you click the icon?
[01:48] <salvador> it says that only root can do that
[01:48] <Biscuitian_Warhe> salavador: You need to be in root to go into it. Im not exactly sure how to get it to mount otherwise.
[01:48] <Techie_dude> what is a website i can download dapper at?
[01:48] <macd> linux_newb, I may have given you the wrong packagename
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> yea - its not sshd.. i forget what it is.. thats why synaptic has a search function
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> :P
[01:49] <gratuit> Techie_dude: install breezy, then upgrade to dapper
[01:49] <burnhamd> My problem with samba is that I cant seem to join the workgroup
[01:49] <macd> linux_newb, should be apt-get install openssh-server
[01:49] <Techie_dude> how do i upgrade to dapper then?
[01:49] <chrisx2> !pastebin
[01:49] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[01:50] <burnhamd> everything seems right under the config file but they cant see each other
[01:50] <macd> Techie_dude, Im not sure you want to upgrade to dapper, its not so stable
[01:50] <linux_newb> ok
[01:50] <Kayde> i have a problem guy's, my vidio card is 2 hopeless for ubutu, and i have lines at top of my screen, can anyh 1 help with it?
[01:50] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Error loading font: -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-*-*-18-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
[01:50] <Biscuitian_Warhe> What 's up with this error?
[01:50] <gratuit> Techie_dude: if you don't know and can't find out on your own, you prolly don't want to be running a testing distro
[01:50] <Techie_dude> okay
[01:50] <Kayde> sorry, bottom
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> Kayde,  and the video card is a ??
[01:50] <Kayde> w8
[01:50] <Techie_dude> ah...i didn't know it was a test distro...srry
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> a W8 video card?
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> :)
[01:50] <macd> you know the volkswagon card ;)
[01:51] <Kayde> ;)
[01:51] <misfit_toy> then it would have bugs
[01:51] <burnhamd> does anyone have a guess at my problem
[01:51] <Kayde> cyber 9525
[01:51] <levander> I'm upgrading to breezy now and am getting all kinds of perl warnings about "check your locale setting".  How screwed am I?
[01:51] <salvador> it says You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents
[01:51] <Kayde> DR Willis its a cyber 9525
[01:51] <Coweater> levander: run locale-gen as root
[01:52] <Coweater> levander: actually it should run a bit later in the update
[01:52] <Techie_dude> how do i switch from gnome to kde
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> Kayde,  old pci card?
[01:52] <Kayde> trident microsystems cyber 9525
[01:52] <Kayde> in my laptop
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> Techie_dude,  at the gdm login screen  - if both are isntalled - check the sessions menu.
[01:52] <levander> Coweater: yeah, but all those packages have already been installed with the locale set incorrectly.  That's how I'm worried about being screwed.
[01:53] <Kayde> i cant change it DR willis
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> Kayde,  ahh a "Trident 9525"
[01:53] <linux_newb> lol excuse my n00bness but how do i get onto root:D
[01:53] <levander> Techie_dude: I think you just install kubuntu-desktop package.
[01:53] <Kayde> ...
[01:53] <bimberi> linux_newb: sudo -i
[01:53] <Coweater> levander: not sure it causes any problems, i've never had any problems and it's always done that
[01:53] <levander> linux_newb: 'sudo -s'
[01:53] <linux_newb> ahh ty ty
[01:53] <levander> Coweater: how many times have you isntalled breezy?
[01:53] <josho> how do i make an account an admin if i deleted the admin account after i created this one
[01:54] <jgrieves> anyone know why my new login in nested window wouldn't work?
[01:54] <jgrieves> is it using Xnest?
[01:54] <Coweater> 5 or 6 i think, does the same thing when i update debian and i've done that quite a few times as well
[01:54] <Kayde> Dr_Willis, i ave a screen shot, want 2 se?
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> Kayde,  best bet is to do some googling. there may be some little X tweak ya need todo.
[01:54] <Techie_dude> ....one moer question before i leave...is there a way where i can make my non-root account have superuser privilages without having to type sudo all the time
[01:55] <Coweater> Techie_dude: that would defeat the purpose of sudo
[01:55] <macd> doesnt that defeat the purpose?
[01:55] <Techie_dude> aaah....
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> Techie_dude,  No. :P ya dont want todo that.
[01:55] <Ron_o> Techie_dude:  sudo -s
[01:55] <Coweater> and would be foolish too
[01:55] <Kayde> i am 13, i cant get help from any 1-i have no idea wat to do,.. google it?
[01:55] <salvador> how can I acces my usb drive without loging with root?
[01:55] <levander> Coweater: okay, cool, you'd think somebody would get rid of those warnings or at least note them in the release notes though
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> Techie_dude,  its EVIL! and will blow up the world!
[01:55] <khemir> Techie just do sudo passwd root
[01:55] <Kayde> u mean type problem in google and see wat it says,
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> Kayde,  yes.
[01:55] <Kayde> and todo is...
[01:56] <Techie_dude> okay....like i belive that i'm not a five year old...i'm eleven....probably the youngest person in here
[01:56] <khemir> Techie and now yuo now is root
[01:56] <bimberi> Techie_dude: possible (sudo can be configured with a NOPASSWD option) but, as you can tell by the reaction, not recommended
[01:56] <levander> salvador: umm, i think you can make it so that usb drives are auto-mounted or can be mounted by regular users in /etc/fstab
[01:56] <Dr_Willis> Kayde,  here is a hit on the ubuntu forums i just found.
[01:56] <mconsidine> join #ubuntu
[01:56] <Dr_Willis> Kayde,  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=291681
[01:56] <jgrieves> anyone know why my new login in nested window wouldn't work? is it using Xnest, becuase xnest seems to run fine
[01:56] <Kayde> ty
[01:56] <sambagirl> is there a fortran and rpg 2-4 compiler for ubuntu?
[01:56] <khemir> Techie sudo first time needs passwrod
[01:56] <macd> yep
[01:56] <levander> Techie_dude: you don't want to be superuser all the time, having to type sudo for commands that require it is intentional, superuser can do a lot of damage
[01:57] <macd> sambagirl, try using synaptic, nd searching for fortran
[01:57] <khemir> sambagirl > apt-cache search rpg
[01:57] <Techie_dude> and also every time i try it wont let me download the decoder or whatever so i can play dvds
[01:57] <Dr_Willis> Kayde,  search the forums for ' Trident 9525  '   may get some other hits as well.
[01:57] <josho> how do i put my user in the admin group if its not already because when i created another account from the admin accont i deleted the original account after
[01:57] <chrisx2> any1 help with http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5402
[01:57] <sambagirl> ok thanks for suggestions
[01:57] <josho> therefore i have no admin capabilities
[01:57] <burnhamd> can netbios be used under wine
[01:57] <juan> hola
[01:57] <khemir> hola juan
[01:58] <juan> hola
[01:58] <juan> de donde eres
[01:58] <khemir> burnham > i dont think so
[01:58] <misfit_toy> !espanol
[01:58] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, misfit_toy
[01:58] <khemir> juan > de MX
[01:58] <bimberi> josho: boot into recovery mode, then "adduser <username to have admin privs> admin"
[01:58] <burnhamd> how do I go about using wins
[01:58] <mconsidine> New here.  Just installed latest dist and trying to get sound working.  Is there a substitute for alsaconf?
[01:58] <burnhamd> on windows
[01:58] <nalioth> !es
[01:58] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:58] <Kayde> Dr_willis, sry i dont understand mumbojumbo-first time ive used linux,
[01:58] <burnhamd> it was easy on ubuntu
[01:58] <levander> Now I just got a bunch of warning in the breezy upgrade about not being able to delete some fonts directories for X11.  Damn these breezy upgrade scripts are sloppy.
[01:58] <djk_> What's the syntax to change something ubotu knows?
[01:58] <Kayde> i dont get it
[01:58] <josho> how do i do that
[01:58] <chrisx2> any1 help with http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5402
[01:59] <macd> chrisx2, you need to run 'sudo apt-get update'
[01:59] <logical_mark> Hey guys what are some good war-driving apps?
[01:59] <khemir> djk????????
[01:59] <jgrieves> anyone know why my new login in nested window wouldn't work? is it using Xnest, becuase xnest seems to run fine
[01:59] <djk_> khemir: ??????
[01:59] <josho> bimberi how do i go into recovery mode
[01:59] <nickrud> djk say ubotu forget factoid, ubotu factoid is
[01:59] <djk_> khemir: unless you have something to actually ask, don't ????? me ;)
[01:59] <khemir> djk > what meaning off
[01:59] <macd> josho, at boot time your presented with a option
[01:59] <sambagirl> you say apt-get rpg cache search?
[01:59] <Epix> Anyone use a firewire sound device on ubuntu? If so, what one and how? Im looking into getting one, im thinking of the presonus firebox... Any suggestions?
[01:59] <bimberi> josho: it should be an option in the grub menu when you boot the PC
[02:00] <josho> oooooo
[02:00] <djk_> nickrud: could you chang the !compile .. the URLs are wrong.
[02:00] <josho> and what is the command?
[02:00] <josho> i want the username to b josho
[02:00] <josho> so lk send the command exactly as i wuld type it in
[02:00] <bimberi> josho: adduser josho admin
[02:00] <_jason> djk_, use: no compile is blah blah blah
[02:00] <djk_> nickrud: i knew about forget/is, thought there was a way to change it without doing that.
[02:00] <chrisx2> W: GPG error: http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release: Unknown error executing gpgv
[02:00] <josho> thanx man
[02:00] <bimberi> josho: np :)
[02:00] <chrisx2> any ideas?
[02:01] <nickrud> djk_, I just work in a dialog window, and cut and paste ;)
[02:01] <djk_> _jason: ah, good to know.
[02:01] <macd> chrisx2: there are planty of hits on the ubuntu forums on fixing that
[02:01] <sambagirl> i am talking about RPG II - IV programming language not role playing games
[02:01] <chrisx2> kk
[02:02] <macd> sambagirl, go into synaptic and search for fortran and RPG you will return packages that you can install
[02:02] <nickrud> djk_, those links exist ??
[02:02] <sambagirl> ok thanks
[02:02] <Seveas> !compiling is <reply> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[02:02] <ubotu> ...but compiling is already something else...
[02:02] <Kayde> DR_willis, i dont understand the page, its confusing,
[02:03] <djk_> nickrud: yea but no.
[02:03] <sambagirl> who is this wiki?
[02:03] <Seveas> !no compiling is <reply> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[02:03] <ubotu> okay, Seveas
[02:03] <djk_> nickrud: the links in !compile have a . added to them ;)
[02:03] <sambagirl> is this hawaiian?
[02:03] <nickrud> aww, i liked the first compiling factoid
[02:03] <Epix> Anyone got a firewire device?
[02:03] <Dr_Willis> Kayde,  they are just saying how to reconfigure the X server. Check the whole forum for  i think this url shows all the hits --->  http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=2801558
[02:03] <Dr_Willis> hmm thtas an odd url.
[02:03] <Kayde> ok
[02:04] <macd> mod_rewrite in the webserver
[02:04] <misfit_toy> is there no simple program to just record video from a webcam? I'm currently using the "motion" project to capture stills as a security device, but I'd like to be able to record simple video from a webcam as well...
[02:04] <macd> ;)
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> 12 different messages about that card.
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> macd,  i was thinking it was using some cookie. :P lol.
[02:04] <macd> Dr_Willis, either is a good guess
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> Well I think - i am going to go bake come CHocklet CHip Cookies!
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> :P
[02:06] <jbroome> tasty
[02:07] <Techie_dude> what is the url to the site that has those extra things that has seveas in it?
[02:07] <misfit_toy> Dr_Willis, are the better with capital H's?
[02:07] <Falstius> anyone running wine on amd64?  I'm trying to do it in a chroot and it is still unhappy.  It also keeps downloading 2005 versions instead of 0.9
[02:07] <Dr_Willis> Yep :P
[02:07] <Seveas> Techie_dude, seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:07] <Dr_Willis> CHewy
[02:07] <Techie_dude> thakyou
[02:07] <misfit_toy> Dr_Willis, CHool
[02:08] <x_or> Anyone know if there is a way to install Ubuntu using chroot, from a running installation of Linux?
[02:08] <korhalf> what's the compose key to get a 1/2 symbol
[02:08] <HrdwrBoB> x_or: yes
[02:08] <HrdwrBoB> dchroot
[02:08] <korhalf> i know how to get  but what about 1/2?
[02:08] <misfit_toy> korhalf, find and ASCII chart
[02:08] <linux_new1> i just downloaded some nvidia drivers, the instructions say to type sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7676-pkg1.run but it tells me No such file or directory
[02:08] <jgrieves> anyone know why my new login in nested window wouldn't work? is it using Xnest correctly?  How can i load gdm if i just open Xnest :1?
[02:08] <djk_> nickrud: i fixed the typo in compile, now the links exist ;)
[02:09] <Johnson> hi
[02:09] <Johnson> f
[02:09] <burnhamd> linux_new: you need to cd to the directory you downloaded the file to
[02:09] <lightbright> Seveas: hello :)
[02:09] <lightbright> korhalf: how are you ? :)
[02:09] <soundray> Seveas, should I send i386 CDs to this guy?
[02:09] <linux_new1> oh.. its on the desktop
[02:09] <Johnson> is there a way i can download web pages
[02:10] <bob_> does any one now how to download a limewire that will work for ubuntu
[02:10] <djk_> Which are the recommended ATI drivers? Repo or directly ATI?
[02:10] <lightbright> bob_: yes I know
[02:10] <Seveas> djk_, directly ati is no longer sucky
[02:10] <burnhamd> limewire is on the wiki
[02:10] <Biscuitian_Warhe> How do I get my externel HD to automount as me, and not root?
[02:10] <Seveas> (actually: it's GOOD)
[02:10] <lightbright> bob_: first, sudo apt-get install j2re1.4
[02:10] <bob_> how do i download it
[02:10] <bob_> were it will work
[02:10] <lightbright> bob_: yiu done that yet?
[02:10] <Seveas> !tell djk_ about ati
[02:10] <djk_> Seveas: yea so I heard.
[02:10] <Biscuitian_Warhe> djk_: Repo.. the ATI's gave me heck..
[02:10] <Dr_Willis> djk_,  using the repo and the wiki - took me all of 3 lines of cut/pasting and 3 min.
[02:10] <korhalf> lightbright: omfg.
[02:11] <lightbright> korhalf: hello my young friend :)
[02:11] <Johnson> is ther a way to downloading a whole webpages inclusing the links?
[02:11] <Johnson> plz
[02:11] <bob_> idk what that is
[02:11] <Seveas> Dr_Willis, Biscuitian_Warhe: the latest ati drivers do hibernate :)
[02:11] <Seveas> and much more niceness
[02:11] <korhalf> Seveas: beware lightbright was trolling in the previous room i was in: #physics
[02:11] <korhalf> just telling you.
[02:11] <djk_> Seveas: yea i know what ubotu knows :p I just didn't see any recommendation anywhere.
[02:11] <lightbright> bob_: first you need to sudo apt-get install j2re1.4
[02:11] <Dr_Willis> Seveas,  i always disable  the hibernation stuff :P so no clue there.
[02:11] <bob_> how to i get that?
[02:11] <lightbright> korhalf: be silent! Seveas  and the rest know me from here and they know you are a liar if you claim that
[02:12] <djk_> Biscuitian_Warhe: heck meaning what exactly?
[02:12] <lightbright> korhalf is a troll following me around falsey accusing me
[02:12] <vblanton> is LeeJunFan around?
[02:12] <korhalf> lightbright: want me to copy and paste the type of things you were saying from the previous room?
[02:12] <korhalf> k im not starting another argument
[02:12] <jbroome> yeah!
[02:12] <badmacktuck> is there a way to make the menus transparent in ubuntu? that might be fun
[02:12] <lightbright> korhalf: your false logs wont help your lies
[02:12] <Seveas> korhalf, lightbright stop arguing or I'll throw both of you out
[02:12] <korhalf> badmacktuck: i dont think so
[02:12] <djk_> Dr_Willis: both installs seem rather easy, just curious which package is better or recommended :)
[02:12] <lightbright> korhalf is now ignored
[02:12] <lightbright> Seveas: agreed
[02:12] <Johnson> dose any one know how to download webpages
[02:12] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Seveas: The only thing they did for me was slow down acceleration.. and give me xorg heck.
[02:12] <Seveas> lightbright, wise move, korhalf please do the same :)
[02:13] <badmacktuck> korhalf, thanks
[02:13] <Dr_Willis> djk_,  its hard to beat somthing I got in a 3 line batch file. :P
[02:13] <bob_> what is sudo apt-get install j2re1.4?
[02:13] <lightbright> Seveas:  ;)
[02:13] <lightbright> bob_: did you install the Java yet?
[02:13] <Seveas> bob2, it's a command with which you install a java runtime
[02:13] <bob_> i dont think did
[02:13] <lightbright> bob_: thats the Java that Limewire needs first
[02:13] <djk_> Dr_Willis: true true
[02:13] <Seveas> bob_*
[02:13] <Trashcan> yay
[02:13] <burnhamd> type that into the bash terminal
[02:13] <Trashcan> seveas is here
[02:13] <Trashcan> so, i hibernated my pc.
[02:13] <lightbright> bob_: ok install that first and then message me
[02:13] <Seveas> Trashcan, gha good to see you
[02:13] <bob_> how do i install that
[02:13] <bob_> were do i get it
[02:14] <Seveas> you remind me that I have to take out the trash
[02:14] <Seveas> brb
[02:14] <Trashcan> lol
[02:14] <lightbright> bob_: sudo apt-get install j2re1.4
[02:14] <Trashcan> ok let me start over
[02:14] <Johnson_> hoe can i download webpages?
[02:14] <nickrud> ouch, what a welcome :)
[02:14] <macd> bob_ type that exact phrase into your command prompt
[02:14] <burnhamd> type: sudo apt-get install j2re1.4 into terminal
[02:14] <jgrieves> ok finally got more info on Xnest
[02:14] <jgrieves> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5403
[02:14] <linux_new1> ok now its telling me "you appear to be running an x server; please exit x before installing." whats x and how to i exit it
[02:14] <bob_> ok
[02:14] <jgrieves> can anyone help there?
[02:14] <lightbright> nickrud: hello, how are you this lovey day?
[02:14] <badmacktuck> Johnson_, you can go file>> save in firefox
[02:14] <tz> ok
[02:14] <badmacktuck> Johnson_, that generaly does it
[02:14] <nickrud> hangin in there. I'm doing my books, so I'm here for a bit
[02:14] <lightbright> bob_: burnhamd type: sudo apt-get install j2re1.4 into terminal
[02:15] <Johnson_> yeh but it only saves that page not the links
[02:15] <Seveas> jgrieves, try: gdmflexiserver --xnest
[02:15] <lightbright> nickrud: cool :)
[02:15] <bob_> teminal wuts that
[02:15] <Trashcan> ok seveas, since you're the undoubted guru
[02:15] <bob_> idk what command prompt is either
[02:15] <Trashcan> i hibernated my pc, and now it won't boot
[02:15] <Trashcan> comes up to a grub>
[02:15] <badmacktuck> Johnson_, oh wait you want all the files for the whole site? im not sure how you would do  that
[02:15] <jgrieves> Seveas on what an open Xnest window?
[02:15] <Trashcan> i have NO idea what's wrong :p
[02:15] <Johnson_> ah
[02:15] <Trashcan> needless to say i'm not pleased :(
[02:15] <Johnson_> bitchin' dose any one else know how to do that
[02:16] <badmacktuck> Johnson_, sorry dude
[02:16] <Johnson_> np man :)
[02:16] <jgrieves> Seveas i.e. open Xnest :1, then gdmflexiserver --xnest --display :0.1
[02:16] <mustard5> Johnson_, I would think wget command might help
[02:16] <Johnson_> ok
[02:16] <mustard5> Johnson_, as for the syntax of the command I would'nt know..but you could try the manual
[02:16] <badmacktuck> mustard5, now im interested
[02:16] <Johnson_> im trying to grap the python tutorials on there site
[02:16] <lightbright> rel_ish: whatever happens in another channel doesnt affect this
[02:16] <Seveas> jgrieves, no, to open an xnest
[02:16] <badmacktuck> ahh
[02:16] <linux_new1> im trying to install nvidia drivers, its telling me "you appear to be running an x server; please exit x before installing." whats x and how to i exit it?
[02:16] <Seveas> and now I really am goen
[02:16] <mustard5> Johnson_, I've download my own website using it once
[02:16] <jgrieves> ok
[02:16] <Trashcan> noooooooo
[02:17] <Trashcan> let's turn this into a question
[02:17] <Johnson_> ok
[02:17] <rel_ish> hmm actually I believe that the only reason this happened is because of what happened in the other channel
[02:17] <Trashcan> my pc boots to a grub prompt... what do i do :p
[02:17] <lightbright> bob_: did you install the Java yet?
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> linux_new1,  you are not using the apt-get method to install them are you.
[02:17] <lightbright> bob_: after that I can pooint you to the lime file you need
[02:18] <linux_new1> no dr_willis, i have downloaded them from nvidia.com
[02:18] <djk_> lightbright: why didn't you suggest the latest jre to bob?
[02:18] <bob_> i dont know where compand prompt is
[02:18] <bob_> or were to type that phrase
[02:18] <macd> wow
[02:18] <lightbright> djk_: thats the one I used and limewire works for me, so I thought its safest
[02:18] <badmacktuck> bob_, applications>> accesories>> terminal
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> linux_new1,  why are you doing that? its almos trivial to follow the Nvidia-wiki and get them, going.
[02:18] <EdLin> linux_new1, you don't want the ones from nvidia.com, you want the one in the Ubuntu repositories
[02:18] <bob_> thank you
[02:18] <nickrud> bob_, welcome to linux and ubuntu then :)
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> linux_new1,  type " !nvidia " and read the bots message
[02:18] <misfit_toy> is there no simple program to just record video from a webcam? I'm currently using the "motion" project to capture stills as a security device, but I'd like to be able to record simple video from a webcam as well...
[02:18] <bob_> lol
[02:18] <Trashcan> is there a recovery disk to fix grub?
[02:18] <djk_> lightbright: ah i see.
[02:18] <linux_new1> !nvidia
[02:18] <ubotu> methinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[02:19] <Johnson_> it only seams to grap that one page?
[02:19] <mustard5> Johnson_, I would say you would need to retrieve recursively...I'm reading over the wget manual atm :)
[02:19] <djk_> Trashcan: your install cd for example..
[02:19] <Johnson_> nice :)
[02:19] <Trashcan> oh really
[02:19] <EdLin> linux_new1, sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[02:19] <jgrieves> sudo gdmflexiserver --xnest opens a window, and than quickly closes it
[02:19] <macd> mustard5, Johnson_  wget -r
[02:19] <djk_> Trashcan: well, if you want to reinstall grub, yes.
[02:19] <sergio> hi, I have a problem with Sound Juicer, it take too long to extract a 12 tracks cd to mp3, almost 20 minutes, it's there a form to accelerate the process?
[02:19] <Trashcan> and i can do so without wiping the system aye?
[02:19] <mustard5> macd, thanks
[02:19] <lightbright> djk_:  :)
[02:20] <badmacktuck> sergio, faster hardware maybe? what are you using?
[02:20] <macd> sergio, mine does as well, Id recommend using xmms
[02:20] <nickrud> sergio, what rip rate are you getting? (I get about 3x)
[02:20] <bob_> Reading package lists... Done
[02:20] <bob_> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:20] <bob_> E: Couldn't find package j2rel.4
[02:20] <bob_>  thats what i got
[02:20] <djk_> Trashcan: well _can_ depends on _what_ you _do_ ;)
[02:20] <kpm> Hi, I have a portable USB hard drive hooked up, and I can brwose to it with Nautilus, however, I would like to get Rhthymbox (or any other music player) to use the Music directory on it as the library for the player's default, without having to copy all my music files over to the local hard drive... but the music applications I have tried so far (Rhtymbox and amaraok) don't list the portable hard drive in the directory tree... during initi
[02:20] <kpm> al start up, and the only other options I can find in RhythmBox is an import... which I assume will copy all my music files to the RhythmBox's default location...
[02:20] <tag> anyone have the ac97 sound device?
[02:20] <linux_new1> thnx edlin
[02:20] <Trashcan> lol djk_
[02:20] <djk_> Trashcan: but yes, unless you choose the wrong things ;)
[02:20] <sergio> 2.4x, I am using a 52x cd
[02:20] <mustard5> bob_, you need to enable the multiverse repository
[02:20] <bob_> how do i do that?
[02:20] <nickrud> bob_, first, don't paste in the channel :) and two, you need to enable multiverse
[02:20] <EdLin> linux_new1, after you do that you'll need to restart X, press control-alt-backspace after you've done that.
[02:20] <mustard5> ubotu: tell bob_ about repos
[02:20] <Trashcan> first things first, finding an install cd
[02:21] <mustard5> bob_, check pm from ubotu
[02:21] <macd> kpm, you need to create a symlink from your mount point to say /usbdrive
[02:21] <kpm> thanks macd, I will look up how to do that
[02:21] <macd> well
[02:21] <macd>  cd into /
[02:21] <macd> then sudo mkdir /usbdrive
[02:22] <macd> then ln -s /dev/yourdevicenodehere /usbdrive
[02:22] <Trashcan> good thing i left a copy of the cd sitting on my desk 45 minutes away
[02:22] <Trashcan> or this might be really easy
[02:22] <sergio> 2.4x, I am using a 52x cd
[02:22] <macd> yourdevicenodehere = the mount point
[02:22] <mustard5> tag, I would just ask your question...many people have ac97
[02:22] <Johnson_> would the -l command in wget work
[02:22] <EdLin> macd, why is cd-ing into / neccesary? This isn't windows explorer
[02:22] <macd> EdLin, point of reference
[02:22] <kpm> can I figure out the mount point in properties?
[02:23] <macd> as to not confuse newbs with paths
[02:23] <EdLin> macd, it isn't like the path gets longer if it's starting at / anyway
[02:23] <macd> kpm,  of you can 'df' on shell
[02:23] <kpm> thanks
[02:23] <macd> EdLin, not when someone is creating a directory in /
[02:23] <saivert> hello
[02:24] <EdLin> macd, you can create a directory in / if you're anywhere, assuming you're sudoing to root
[02:24] <saivert> RUnning Ubuntu Breezy badger (5.10) her.
[02:24] <bimberi> hi saivert
[02:24] <macd> EdLin, your missing the point. and this isnt worth talking about it doesnt pertain to fixing kpms' problem
[02:24] <saivert> Just installed Firefox 1.5 (final), Thunderbird 1.5RC1 but got problems with nvidia-glx package. It sais nvidia as driver in xorg.conf
[02:24] <tag> I've been trying to get it to work, I have the snd_ac97 module installed, but alsamixer can't find my sound device
[02:24] <kinderwood> looking for help compiling wine for amd64 from source, compiling failing with configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[02:25] <Kayde> Dr_willis, can u plz paste site again
[02:25] <Johnson_> so would the wget command work for downloading mutile links on a website
[02:25] <Seveas> !tell kinderwood about compiling
[02:25] <sorush20> guys how do I delete the files on a DVDRW
[02:25] <Kayde>  I lost it,
[02:25] <saivert> What do you do when nvidia-glx driver (sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings) does not work with GeForce Go 6600 chip?
[02:26] <macd> Seveas, can I tell myself something?
[02:26] <Seveas> macd, sure :)
[02:26] <saivert> i did run sudo nvidia-settings enable
[02:26] <macd> just curios what all these things say
[02:26] <djk_> people should be more careful when they enter links into ubotu... !grub has an invalid link as well...
[02:26] <Seveas> ubotu, tell macd about yourself
[02:26] <mustard5> tag, do you have other sound devices as well?
[02:26] <macd> Seveas, ty
[02:26] <saivert> Is there another channel where people help each other out or is this the right place?
[02:27] <Seveas> saivert, lots of channel on freenode are for support
[02:27] <mustard5> saivert, your in the right place
[02:27] <saivert> okay. I assumed people had experience with ubuntu 5.10 here.
[02:27] <djk_> Seveas: is there a list of commands ubotu knows?
[02:27] <kinderwood> seveas, or anyone, have read through the guide to compiling, have build-essential installed
[02:27] <djk_> Seveas: i mean ! commands..
[02:28] <Seveas> ubotu, tell djk_ about yourself
[02:28] <HighHopes> Hello folks! I have a problem ... In any x-terminal-emulator I get ugly characters instead of extended ASCII symbols, e.g. windows borders in midnight commander, letters in my spanish alphabet, etc... How can I solve this?
[02:28] <macd> kinderwood, do you also have autoconf installed?
[02:28] <saivert> The nv X server driver works, but the nvidia one does not. It says when starting X that it cant find any screens
[02:28] <Seveas> kinderwood, apt-get build-dep wine
[02:28] <EdLin> saivert, run nvidia-glx-config
[02:28] <The_Isle_of_Mark> hey, noob ubuntu question here, can I make apt-get download a package instead of using it from the cd?
[02:28] <navyn> anybody here familiar with gimp?
[02:28] <EdLin> saivert, from a command prompt...
[02:28] <saivert> i have done so . I followed the guide on ubuntu wiki
[02:28] <mustard5> saivert, have you installed the linux-restricted-modules for your kernel?
[02:28] <burnhamd> wine doesnt compile under amd64
[02:29] <burnhamd> you have to chroot it
[02:29] <nickrud> The_Isle_of_Mark, comment out the cdrom line in your sources.list to disable getting from the cd
[02:29] <macd> The_Isle_of_Mark,  take the CD out?
[02:29] <kinderwood> oh man, that stinks
[02:29] <Seveas> The_Isle_of_Mark, comment out the CD line in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:29] <saivert> I am running plain Ubuntu 5.10 breezy badger from latest ISO i downloaded
[02:29] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thanks guys
[02:29] <kinderwood> burnhamd, do you know if they are planning to support amd64?
[02:29] <EdLin> saivert, are you using an older card such as a TNT2? If so you may need the legacy drivers.
[02:29] <navyn> whenever I crop a photo, how can i stop the stupid dialog box, wanting coordinates to stop popping up?
[02:29] <djk_> Seveas: yea i know that, but i mean a list of all entered stuff.. listvals * is too short
[02:29] <saivert> I have GeForce Go 6600
[02:30] <djk_> and i dont think the wildcard would work anyway..
[02:30] <saivert> On a laptop
[02:30] <Falstius> I'm trying to get wine working in a chroot, but I get an error, "Application tries to create a window, but no driver loaded" ... any fix?
[02:30] <Seveas> djk_, afaik that factoid should say: http://ubuntu.cc.com.au
[02:30] <kinderwood> can anyone else reccomend a windows layer besides wine? just need to run simple .exe, no games
[02:30] <burnhamd> Kinderwood: nope i sure dont
[02:30] <saivert> I got sound semi-working as well (Intel ICH6 SoundMAX) but it fails when pluggins cable into line out (something with jack sense trouble)
[02:30] <EdLin> kinderwood, vmware, though it has a lot of overhead, can run about anything.
[02:30] <Falstius> kinderwood: there used to be a dosemu package
[02:31] <Kayde> DR WILLIS< PLEASE re post url
[02:31] <burnhamd> yea but dosemu isnt windows
[02:31] <navyn> its under crop and resize, how can i stop that from popping up in gimp
[02:31] <korhalf> Is there a way to bind the scroll mouse button to irssi, so i can scroll that way or?
[02:31] <djk_> Seveas: no, it says it's too short unfortunately, but thanks for the link, that's what i was looking for
[02:31] <XRange> is there channel for sound problem on laptop with ubuntu
[02:32] <HighHopes> Hello folks! I have a problem ... In any x-terminal-emulator I get ugly characters instead of extended ASCII symbols, e.g. windows borders in midnight commander, letters in my spanish alphabet, etc... How can I solve this?
[02:32] <EdLin> Falstius, dosemu and dosbox run great, nice for running old DOS games for nostalgia.
[02:32] <saivert> I have followed the 5 button mouse tip on Ubuntu forums, and back/forward mouse buttons do now work in Firefox, but why to a page open when I middle click background of website (eg no link/image, somewhere else on website)
[02:32] <Falstius> what kind of sick calls themself "edlin" and has DOS nostalgia?
[02:32] <Trashcan> djk_ so, if i were to, say, not have an install cd
[02:32] <Trashcan> is there anything i could do with a floppy? :p
[02:32] <EdLin> Falstius, me. ;-)
[02:33] <kinderwood> macd, autoconf was not installed, but i just did, still fails with same error
[02:33] <Trashcan> or.. well.. grub is installed, it's just not booting my image
[02:33] <djk_> Trashcan: check the links ubotu sent you as well ;)
[02:33] <Trashcan> ooo missed that
[02:33] <Trashcan> thankies
[02:33] <Falstius> can anyone help me with a chroot problem?  I'm having trouble getting wine to open windows.
[02:33] <saivert> anyone got GeForce Go 6600 working with nvidia-glx on 5.10 ubuntu ?
[02:33] <djk_> Trashcan: the second link has a , added at the end, resulting in a not found site.. so delete that.
[02:33] <saivert> sudo apt-get install wine  <--- works with breez
[02:33] <Trashcan> rgr
[02:34] <burnhamd> i got geforce 6600 regular pcie working if that helps
[02:34] <djk_> Seveas: i assume it's okay if i proofread !commands with links fixing them if proper punctuation messed up links?
[02:34] <Falstius> saivert: not on AMD64
[02:34] <kinderwood> seveas,  apt-get build-dep wine returns "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[02:34] <saivert> But wine does not handle running Winamp 5 that good. It puts frames around winamp's windows and the sound support is a bit broken
[02:35] <Seveas> djk_, sure, but use a private conversation with the bot for that :)
[02:35] <macd> kinderwood, IM not sure if there is a all encompassing way to install gcc and it suite of compilers, but someone might know
[02:35] <Trashcan> i tried my lameass attempts at 'kernel /boot/vmlinuz' and 'boot' but it was too tricky to do off the top of my head :(
[02:35] <saivert> A lot of stuff is broken on AMD64. Wait for updates.
[02:35] <djk_> Seveas: yep :)
[02:35] <navyn> is there a gimp channel on irc?
[02:35] <dAndy> Falstius: I just used https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot
[02:35] <EdLin> kinderwood, aptitude install build-essential
[02:35] <dAndy> Falstius: I am using it with cedega
[02:35] <EdLin> macd, ^^
[02:35] <macd> kinderwood, I had the same problem, poked around in synaptic under the c++ range and was able to fix my rpoblem by adding a missing package
[02:35] <macd> EdLin, he already has build-essential
[02:35] <kinderwood> macd, same error?
[02:36] <burnhamd> you meean #gimp
[02:36] <burnhamd> come on
[02:36] <saivert> Cedega is overrated. Why can't you copy Microsoft native DirectX DLL's from a windows box over to linux and run with Wine ?
[02:36] <thewayofzen> nalioth, if you are around.  would you happen to know how i might get my 52X cdrw drive burning at higher then 24X
[02:36] <saivert> Wine emulates most of the Win32 kernel so everything should work
[02:37] <bob_> i tried doing that stuff idk if it worked
[02:37] <crouton> hey fellas, anybody running XFS on the latest kernel.org 2.6.14.3 kernel?
[02:37] <nelsmar> FN keys sucks 0.o
[02:37] <nelsmar> i got my 2.6.14.3 running does that count? lol
[02:37] <nelsmar> was amazing what went wrong
[02:37] <EdLin> crouton, XFS should really only be used if you have a UPS, it write caches very agressively.
[02:37] <soundray> thewayofzen, would your blanks support that speed?
[02:38] <MunkieBoy> Hello.
[02:38] <thewayofzen> soundray,  yeah they support 52
[02:38] <saivert> I still use ext2 !!!
[02:38] <nelsmar> how much was the burner? lol
[02:38] <crouton> yah, well...
[02:38] <soundray> thewayofzen, is DMA on?
[02:38] <nelsmar> cause there are alot of 30$ burners that say 52x but benchmark shows only 24x is what they really burn at
[02:38] <nelsmar> *shrug*
[02:38] <saivert> Anyone tested burning with NeroLINUX ??
[02:38] <thewayofzen> soundray,  i followed the guide on ubuntuguide.org to have DMA on and still same results
[02:38] <thewayofzen> burns FINE at full speed in XP.. just seems odd
[02:38] <The_Isle_of_Mark> saivert, I have, I dont see much use for it
[02:39] <nelsmar> anyone have some links or somethign about triggering events with acpi and sonypi(support for my FN keys.... if i cat /dev/sonypi and hit FN F4 it outputs ;)
[02:39] <Falstius> dAndy: the chroot seems to work but when I run wine it barfs with the error, "application tried to open window, driver not loaded"
[02:39] <nelsmar> thewayofzen have you tried diff burnign software?
[02:39] <thewayofzen> nelsmar,  k3b and gnomebaker
[02:39] <thewayofzen> :)
[02:39] <Falstius> I can run synaptic in the change root and it opens windows.
[02:39] <nelsmar> damn ; / dunno man :(
[02:39] <soundray> thewayofzen, did you time the Windows result yourself or did you rely on the driver's speed info?
[02:39] <saivert> Yeah. Given the fact that NeroLINUX uses a lot of code from GnomeToaster I think running GnomeToaster would be better in the long run. NeroLINUX sure is great to ease the migration from Windows, but then Nero should have same GUI as in Windows.
[02:40] <thewayofzen> soundray,  i didnt break out a stop watch but its noticeable that its taking more time.
[02:40] <soundray> thewayofzen, anyway, the only option I see left is playing with hdparm.
[02:40] <thewayofzen> soundray,  ill hit up google then thanks!
[02:40] <Insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark:  You around?
[02:40] <The_Isle_of_Mark> Insipid, hey man
[02:40] <nelsmar> someone help me get a kickstat twards what to do for my FN keys im kind of stuck now :(
[02:40] <soundray> thewayofzen, remember man hdparm and /usr/share/doc/hdparm as well.
[02:41] <nelsmar> /dev/sonypi shows the output of the keys
[02:41] <Insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark:  32 bit it just as horrid.. I wonder if it has something to do with the kernel.
[02:41] <nelsmar> how can i get something to monitor sonypi and trigger te events in /etc/acpi/events
[02:41] <nelsmar> WITHOUGHT writting my own software please
[02:41] <saivert> Press Ctrl-Alt-F1, login and then type sudo halt
[02:41] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid I dunno man
[02:42] <Johnson_> dose any one know hoe to use httrack???????????????
[02:42] <nelsmar> .... saivert just because you cant do it yoru self doesnt mean you gotta be an arse :D
[02:42] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid that was my last ditch effort. I anything but video I can fix, but that has me stumped
[02:42] <jay> anyone know of an rpm for tvrss
[02:42] <saivert> I was trying to be funny nelsmar!! That's all. I'm sure most peolpe know what halt does.
[02:42] <nelsmar> The_Isle_of_Mark what is wrong?
[02:42] <jay> located tvrss.sf.net
[02:42] <nelsmar> saivert what does it do? lmao
[02:42] <nelsmar> just kiddin
[02:43] <Insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark:  I just don't like what I don't understand.. i read on the message boards of people running a 5200 beautifully.. and i know for a fact my geforce 2 mx 400 ran my apps better than this 5200 in linux
[02:43] <mustard5> saivert, not necessarily
[02:43] <The_Isle_of_Mark> nelsmar, nothing on my machine...insipid is having nvidia problems
[02:43] <saivert> Halt describes itself. It halts the system
[02:43] <nelsmar> nvidia is pissy lol... everytime i modify my kernel i have to re-patch ><
[02:43] <nelsmar> thank god it only takes 2 mins including reseting x
[02:43] <Tony_Sidaway> nelsmar, have you tried googling on this problem? It's a bit too hardware-specific for #ubuntu
[02:43] <Trashcan> djk_: can i pm you?
[02:43] <Johnson_> dose any one know how to use httrack or any program that can download multiple levels on a website?
[02:44] <The_Isle_of_Mark> Insipid, I know what you mean, unfortunately I dont know what to do...maybe if I had the machine here I could fix it, but I dont so I cant...and I feel bad about it
[02:44] <Insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark:  All i can think of is try to compile my own kernel and run the offical installer
[02:44] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid that could work
[02:44] <mustard5> Johnson_, wget -r was no good?
[02:44] <nelsmar> Tony_sidaway i just need a device monitor that will execute commands on input depending... liek somethign that would watch /dev/mouse and when it see's input it forwards... except watch /dev/sonypi
[02:44] <sorush20> guys what does can;'t find x includes mean?
[02:44] <nelsmar> its not to hardware specific it outputs raw data..... in 16bit i beleive
[02:44] <burnhamd> if i were to compile my own kernel will I get a considerable spped boost
[02:44] <Johnson_> no soz i didnt get that message im talking to you through konsole and it wont let me scroll up
[02:44] <nelsmar> insipid what is your problem?
[02:44] <Johnson_> i try now
[02:45] <mustard5> Johnson_, the -r option makes it recursive
[02:45] <saivert> But I am still awaiting explanation why my plain Breezy 5.10 installation can't be upgraded to use nvidia-glx package even though I have followed every guid (most of them tell me the same, run sudo nvidia-glx-settings enable). But it fails when restarting Xorg. It says it can not find any screens.
[02:45] <nelsmar> im almost tempted to use xorg.conf and map it as a mouse....
[02:45] <mulder> nelsmar, you didnt buy a sony vaio did you?
[02:45] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid nelsmar wants to help
[02:45] <jay> anyone?
[02:45] <Tony_Sidaway> nelsmar, sounds  like something you could run up in perl, python, guile, whatever.  Why the problem with programming?
[02:45] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Error loading font: -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-*-*-18-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
[02:45] <Biscuitian_Warhe>  Can someone help me out?
[02:45] <nelsmar> mulder no it was a gift why?
[02:45] <Johnson_> nice
[02:45] <Johnson_> i dont knw what that means
[02:45] <jay> located tvrss.sf.net
[02:45] <nelsmar> Tony_sideaway ive never programed C/C++ in linux i dont know how to make use of makefiles :(
[02:45] <djk_> Trashcan: if you are registered, yes
[02:45] <dpupp> Biscuitian_Warhe, ask your question if someone knows they will answer :)
[02:46] <nelsmar> wasnt going to start playing with C++ for another week or so
[02:46] <mulder> nelsmar, *shakes head*. i'm not a big fan of vaios heh
[02:46] <saivert> But I am still awaiting explanation why my plain Breezy 5.10 installation can't be upgraded to use nvidia-glx package even though I have followed every guid (most of them tell me the same, run sudo nvidia-glx-settings enable). But it fails when restarting Xorg. It says it can not find any screens.
[02:46] <Insipid> nelsmar:  Im getting worse performance on my nvidia geforce 5200 in linux than i did my geforce 2mx... glxgears is giving me 1300 fps in a tiny window... and ut2004 is running at 8 fps... in windows it runs at about 50 fps and my geforce 2 mx ran at about 25 fps in a different linux installation
[02:46] <Tony_Sidaway> nelsmar, you don't need all that.  Just grab man perl and get coding.
[02:46] <nelsmar> mulder ah ; / they arnt as good as they used to be, but i love myn :) linux hates all vaio
[02:46] <RobNyc> Anyway to get a higher kernel than 2.6.12?
[02:46] <djk_> Trashcan: although there are plenty of intelligent people here who'd be able to help as well ;)
[02:46] <Johnson_> if i put -r 3 would it download 3 levels ?
[02:46] <mustard5> saivert, well sudo nvidia-glx-config enable is the actual command
[02:46] <nelsmar> Tony_sidaway maybe i will hhmmmm man perl have some basics?
[02:46] <EdLin> RobNyc, is there any reason that you need 2.6.14?
[02:46] <Trashcan> djk_ : just trying to avoid clutter, but i see your point :)
[02:47] <nelsmar> Insipid did you install new(er) nvidia drivers? if so what version
[02:47] <Johnson_> coz it looks like its trying to download the whole net lol
[02:47] <saivert> sorry, my mistake. I meant config instead of settings. couldn't remember when typing message. was too lazy to look it up
[02:47] <Tony_Sidaway> nelsmar, get the Camel book if you need more, or just look on the web for perl tutorials.
[02:47] <Trashcan> seeing as how i don't have an installation cd of any sort (and the only burner in the house is.. joy.. the one that's broken)
[02:47] <Insipid> nelsmar:  I got breezy package
[02:47] <EdLin> RobNyc, security fixes from .14 have been backported to Ubuntu's kernel
[02:47] <mulder> nelsmar, my thinkpad works fine :) all the function combos seem to work
[02:47] <nelsmar> Tony_sidaway shouldnt be to hard to catch up on
[02:47] <Trashcan> i read about booting manually
[02:47] <saivert> It says "nvidia" in xorg.conf anyways
[02:47] <saivert> but one "nv" works.
[02:47] <Trashcan> i just need to know what options/modules to boot with
[02:47] <saivert> *only
[02:47] <nelsmar> Insipid breezy package? ... there was a package for nvidia drivers in add programs??? i dint knwo that
[02:48] <saivert> who is insipid?
[02:48] <Insipid> nelsmar:  apt-get
[02:48] <djk_> Seveas: is it possible that not all factoids on that site still exist? apparently there's ffnew but ubotu doesn't seem to know it (anymore)
[02:48] <nelsmar> mulder yeah myn worked on 2.6.9 kernelw iht ubuntu but i upped to a newer kernel cause im cleaning and leaning the system out and now im not sure what happened
[02:48] <mustard5> saivert, you could try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  and attempt to reconfigure your xorg.cof
[02:48] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Error loading font: -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-*-*-18-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
[02:48] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Can somebody help me out?
[02:48] <nelsmar> Insipid i didnt even try that my self lol, go to .... let me get you a direct link
[02:48] <Kayde> how do i make wrighting red/?
[02:48] <saivert> my xorg.conf looks pretty fine. I don't want to reset it cos I have enabled 5 button mouse support.
[02:48] <mustard5> saivert, atm I am a bit mystified as to what it might be
[02:48] <Insipid> nelsmar:  i know how to manually do this
[02:48] <kinderwood> any one else have troubleshooting ideas for "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"
[02:49] <sorush20> !dapper
[02:49] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[02:49] <mustard5> saivert, what kernel you running?
[02:49] <Johnson_> what about if i do -r -l 3 would that work?
[02:49] <saivert> wait mustard5
[02:49] <mulder> nelsmar, did you use the 2.6.9 kernel config file?
[02:49] <soundray> Kayde, can you elaborate?
[02:49] <nelsmar> mulder yeah had some problems 0.o and just started fresh
[02:49] <Kayde> ?
[02:49] <saivert> my uname -a output:  But I am still awaiting explanation why my plain Breezy 5.10 installation can't be upgraded to use nvidia-glx package even though I have followed every guid (most of them tell me the same, run sudo nvidia-glx-settings enable). But it fails when restarting Xorg. It says it can not find any screens.
[02:49] <nickrud> kinderwood, what does   which gcc    say in a terminal?
[02:49] <nelsmar> insipid why not manualy? works like a charm
[02:49] <Kayde> soundray Kayde, can you elaborate?-??
[02:49] <saivert> sorry paste with ctrl-v does not work in XChat
[02:49] <nelsmar> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-7667.html <<< the best drive from nv atm
[02:50] <mustard5> saivert, uname -r
[02:50] <Mr_Milenko> uhm
[02:50] <saivert> my kernel:  Linux cnsaivert 2.6.12-10-686 #1 Fri Nov 18 12:09:04 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:50] <Insipid> nelsmar:  thats the one i got, its just a binary
[02:50] <Insipid> nelsmar: from the apt-get
[02:50] <djk_> Trashcan: better ask in here then. i'm not that advanced to properly help you with that.
[02:50] <Insipid> dpkg even
[02:50] <soundray> Kayde, what are you trying to color in red?
[02:50] <Mr_Milenko> in cfdisk.. when you select type as Linux for a partition.. what FS is it?
[02:50] <kinderwood> nickrud, what do you mean?  I tried making a simple hello world.c and it compiled and ran fine
[02:50] <mustard5> siavert, I would try installing linux-restricted-module-$(uname -r)
[02:50] <Mr_Milenko> ext2 reiser ext3?
[02:50] <mulder> nelsmar, ok. what about using the breezy config then?
[02:50] <luisito> can I get the gedit sources?
[02:50] <Mr_Milenko> mustard! my homie.. help me out here :P
[02:50] <Kayde> i want 2 know...
[02:50] <saivert> why do you have to have restricted module ? Is the driver restricted?
[02:50] <nickrud> ah, kinderwood what are you compiling, and does it specify gcc-3.4?
[02:51] <mustard5> saivert, yes
[02:51] <nelsmar> mulder i hadproblems converting and now bleh... i did the sony pi and thinkin of just installing the dell / toshiba supporty which i think is what worked
[02:51] <saivert> damn this shitty business
[02:51] <hlen> luisito, ``apt-get source gedit'' in the dir where you want them
[02:51] <mustard5> Mr_Milenko, :)
[02:51] <nelsmar> im not sure... after going from 2.6.9 - > 2.6.10 it stopped working
[02:51] <mulder> nelsmar, hmm ok
[02:51] <nelsmar> and after i updated(4 hours after install) i decided to build my own kernel
[02:51] <Insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark:  Perhaps it's best not to use a binary anyways.. after all its not tweaked for my system if i do it like that.. did you use the binary?
[02:51] <kinderwood> nickrud, ah, im trying to compile wine on a amd64
[02:51] <nelsmar> *shrug*
[02:51] <soundray> saivert, blame nvidia / ati
[02:51] <mulder> nelsmar, you still using hoary i take it?
[02:51] <Insipid> kinderwood:  debootstrab a new chroot
[02:51] <saivert> E: Couldn't find package linux-restricted-module-2.6.12-10-686
[02:51] <Insipid> debootstrap
[02:51] <nelsmar> nope
[02:51] <nickrud> ah, nm, amd64, not here, wine, won't use :)
[02:51] <jay> whats Dapper
[02:52] <nelsmar> breezy
[02:52] <Mr_Milenko> or tell me how to format a partition as a certain type pls
[02:52] <saivert> E: Couldn't find package linux-restricted-module-2.6.12-10-686
[02:52] <dpupp> is there a good text editor which does highlighting for html as it does for other scripts? my little sister is wanting to learn html and im looking for a tool that might help her.
[02:52] <Mr_Milenko> :P
[02:52] <mulder> cause breezy uses 2.6.12
[02:52] <luisito> hlen, thanks. didn't know that apt-get option ;)
[02:52] <ivar> ok, i'm a bit stuck here. i seem to have hosed X in breezy
[02:52] <The_Isle_of_Mark> Insipid, yes I did, I have way too many machines to keep up to compile everything...if I wanted to do that I would run gentoo :)
[02:52] <soundray> saivert, you have to downgrade to 2.6.12-9-686
[02:52] <ivar> as such i'm using irsii, which is quite unfamiliar
[02:52] <nelsmar> not the update manager thingy
[02:52] <Insipid> wine WILL work on an amd64 if you chroot into a 32-bit environment created by debootstrap
[02:52] <linux_newb> i just had this pop up Could not grab your mouse.
[02:52] <saivert> why ?? I like 2.6.12 ??
[02:52] <linux_newb> A malicious client may be eavesdropping
[02:52] <linux_newb> on your session.
[02:52] <mustard5> saivert, sounds like you either need to run sudo apt-get update or enabled extra repositories
[02:52] <kinderwood> ok, i will look into the debootstrap and chroot for wine on amd64, thank you for all your help
[02:52] <nelsmar> i have latest updates...... from the update manager
[02:52] <nelsmar> it doesnt like me
[02:52] <linux_newb> :-S
[02:52] <mustard5> saivert, alternatively the package name is spelt wrong :)
[02:52] <saivert> i have enabled multiverse and universe. im fine
[02:53] <mustard5> saivert, search via synaptice :)
[02:53] <bimberi> saivert: it's modules (add the 's')
[02:53] <nelsmar> im proud that i got half this shit to work
[02:53] <nickrud> dpupp, I don't do much html stuff, and bluefish was a godsend for me. Learned as I went.
[02:53] <soundray> Insipid, is there a howto for 32-bit environments with debootstrap?
[02:53] <saivert> Look here:  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-686 is already the newest version.
[02:53] <mustard5> Mr_Milenko, you on breezy?
[02:54] <nickrud> dpupp, oh, and yes, it does syntax hightlighting
[02:54] <saivert> SO it means I got it!!!!!! NELSMAR
[02:54] <Trashcan> Seveas : have you any idea where i can find a proper grub boot sequence? :p
[02:54] <bimberi> soundray: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot
[02:54] <dpupp> thanks nickrud. i will check that out
[02:54] <Mr_Milenko> no :(
[02:54] <nelsmar> huh? *looks around clueless*
[02:54] <mustard5> saivert, hmmm ok
[02:54] <Mr_Milenko> and im on 14kbps dialup
[02:54] <soundray> thank you, bimberi
[02:54] <nelsmar> OHSHIT i just delted my .config
[02:54] <nelsmar> DAMNIT
[02:54] <bimberi> soundray: np :)
[02:54] <mustard5> Mr_Milenko, k
[02:55] <mustard5> Mr_Milenko, via command line I would not be too helpful in that regard
[02:55] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Is there CHAP MD5 support in linux?
[02:55] <saivert> I was tempted to compile my own kernel using a wonderful guide on Ubuntuforums, but I dropped it cos I don't see any reason to do so. It should work out of the BOX!!
[02:55] <nelsmar> oh damnit to hell tose fuckers
[02:55] <mustard5> nelsmar, watch the language plz
[02:55] <Trashcan> oh oh it's magic
[02:55] <Trashcan> $100 i just killed my system
[02:56] <Trashcan> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-<kernel version>
[02:56] <Trashcan> initrd /initrd.img
[02:56] <Trashcan> boot
[02:56] <Mr_Milenko> ah i remember a gnome partitioning tool
[02:56] <mustard5> Trashcan, you want a link to grub troubleshooting guide?
[02:56] <Trashcan> i got it
[02:56] <mustard5> Trashcan, k
[02:56] <Trashcan> my problem: i lack an install cd
[02:56] <Trashcan> and the computer with the burner is the one that wont boot
[02:56] <mustard5> Trashcan, ah ok..
[02:56] <mustard5> Trashcan, eek
[02:56] <Trashcan> woooot i got a grey screen
[02:57] <_jason> Trashcan, can you take the burner out of it and put it on your other comp?
[02:57] <mustard5> Trashcan, you want to see my grub?
[02:57] <Trashcan> PLEASE
[02:57] <mustard5> Trashcan, one tick
[02:57] <nelsmar> sorry mustard
[02:57] <tag> I can't seem to mount an item with the loopback device?
[02:57] <soundray> Trashcan, do you have any other bootable CDs?
[02:57] <Trashcan> windows
[02:57] <tag> lsmod shows the loop module inserted
[02:57] <mahangu> im using OOo2 impress, how can I package a presentation as a .ppt and make sure the fonts will render on a win32 box
[02:58] <mahangu> im using nimbus roman
[02:58] <saivert> How does one install a FreeBSD based OS and make it boot when I already got Windows XP and Ubuntu dual-booted using GRUB? I have created a new ext2 partition using PartitionMagic in windows xp and copied rootfs (in a .tar.gz archive) to the new partition, it mounts perfectly fine under ubuntu, but can't boot it from GRUB (tried root (hd0,5) which is a success, but kernel /boot/boot0 fails.
[02:58] <masingerz> Hey i have an ati video card and i found this generic driver over at the ati web
[02:58] <mustard5> Trashcan, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/449093
[02:58] <masingerz> https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=300
[02:58] <masingerz> which one should I use?
[02:58] <masingerz> XFree86 4.1
[02:58] <masingerz> XFree86 4.2
[02:58] <masingerz> XFree86 4.3
[02:58] <masingerz> x.org 6.8
[02:58] <masingerz> Please advice
[02:58] <saivert> don't spam
[02:58] <saivert> don't spam please
[02:58] <saivert> read my post above.
[02:59] <mulder> saivert, grub should recognise ufs should it not?
[02:59] <Trashcan> yay
[02:59] <saivert> ufs ??
[02:59] <Trashcan> thank you mustard5 :D
[02:59] <mustard5> Trashcan, np
[02:59] <saivert> that is used by FreeBSD I assume?
[02:59] <Trashcan> btw, what version is your grub?
[02:59] <jay> how do i activate 3d accelration on ubuntu here
[02:59] <Trashcan> that came with ubuntu
[02:59] <mulder> ufs is what freebsd uses
[03:00] <saivert> I thought FreeBSD supported ext2 as well
[03:00] <mulder> just point it to the boot code for the freebsd partition
[03:00] <Xenguy> who cares about FreeBSD - it's crap compared to Debian derivatives anyway :P
[03:00] <hlen> freebsd actually uses ufs2 these days
[03:00] <mulder> it supports ext2 but it uses ufs itself
[03:00] <jay> anyone
[03:00] <mustard5> Trashcan, whatever the default ubuntu version is
[03:00] <saivert> I'm trying to install FreeNAS on my laptop. Just for testing ofcourse. It's based on FreeBSD and you can download the entire 16MB rootfs in a tgz
[03:00] <Xenguy> anyway, it's off-topice AFAICT
[03:00] <soundray> Xenguy, there was never anything better than OS/2
[03:00] <Trashcan> yeah mustard
[03:00] <Trashcan> dunno what that is?
[03:00] <Mr_Milenko> bah
[03:00] <Mr_Milenko> got cut off
[03:00] <Mr_Milenko> this linuxant demo shit is pissing me off
[03:00] <soundray> Xenguy, except maybe BeOS
[03:00] <mulder> in any case grub should see it
[03:00] <Xenguy> soundray: that's off-topic too :P
[03:01] <Trashcan> because mine says 0.95
[03:01] <hlen> Xenguy, you shouldn't say stuff like that. people might not like to hear it.
[03:01] <mustard5> Trashcan, I havent change the version of grub at all..so I assume its default
[03:01] <soundray> Xenguy, just kidding.
[03:01] <crouton> Oh, BeOS, how I miss thee
[03:01] <Trashcan> and that's old as far as i know
[03:01] <dpupp> when i try to have GEDIT open files for editing it crashes. for example: sudo gedit var/www/file.htm -- the application gerdit has quit unexpectidly.
[03:01] <Xenguy> hlen: the truth hurts?
[03:01] <mustard5> Trashcan, ah ok..I did restore grub using the install CD recently...
[03:01] <hlen> Xenguy, that's your truth
[03:01] <saivert> so back to nvidia-glx then. any news?
[03:02] <saivert> Do I have to compile my own kernel to get it working?
[03:02] <mustard5> saivert, can you pastebin your xorg.conf?
[03:02] <Xenguy> hlen: here's the truth - this is Ubuntu, not FBSD, yes?
[03:02] <saivert> sure. which pastebin ??
[03:02] <mustard5> !pastebin
[03:02] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[03:02] <saivert> thx
[03:02] <luisito> hlen, when I try apt-get source gedit it says me: Unable to find a source package
[03:02] <luisito> hlen, and with other packages too
[03:03] <Trashcan> does anybody know what version of grub ubuntu comes with?
[03:03] <soundray> luisito, have you enabled source repositories?
[03:03] <bimberi> !info grub
[03:03] <ubotu> grub: (GRand Unified Bootloader), section admin, is optional. Version: 0.95+cvs20040624-17ubuntu7 (breezy), Packaged size: 347 kB, Installed size: 744 kB
[03:03] <jay> how do i activate 3d accelration on ubuntu here
[03:03] <N6REJ> yeah, I've been having that problem all night!  downloads the packages then says "unable to verify"   http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5404
[03:03] <luisito> soundray, yes man!
[03:03] <hlen> luisito, do you have a deb-src line in /etc/apt/sources.list? if not, that's the problem
[03:03] <saivert> Here is my /etc/X11/xorg.conf -->  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/449097  <<--grab it
[03:03] <Trashcan> ok cool, so my grub is intact
[03:03] <Biscuitian_Warhe> jay: we looking at nvidia or ati?
[03:03] <Trashcan> must have just lost menu.lst
[03:04] <Trashcan> mustard5: it's booting :D thank you sooo much
[03:04] <mustard5> saivert, k..looking it over now...I'll compare to mine..I'm on nvidia too
[03:04] <jay> ati
[03:04] <luisito> hlen, I have to check that
[03:04] <mustard5> Trashcan, well done :)
[03:04] <saivert> We are only talking about nvidia atm
[03:04] <saivert> And I got GeForce Go 6600 GPU remember
[03:04] <yagami> how do i join other servers
[03:04] <yagami> i cant remember what to type
[03:04] <N6REJ> mustard5: are the repositories broken 2nite?
[03:05] <Biscuitian_Warhe> jay:  Go to Synaptic and look for xorg-driver-fglrx or apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[03:05] <ubuntu> hi
[03:05] <soundray> luisito, did you run apt-get update after adding source repositories?
[03:05] <Biscuitian_Warhe> jay: Then when thats done. make a backup of your xorg.conf, and then run fglrxconfig (or conf, somthing like that) as root and put in the settings it tells you to
[03:06] <saivert> what is this fglrx thing ??
[03:06] <luisito> soundray, yes man, that too!
[03:06] <jay> cool thanks
[03:06] <saivert> It's unknown to me
[03:06] <Trashcan> saivert : open gl drivers
[03:06] <luisito> hlen, I have my deb-src lines too.
[03:06] <jay> Biscuitian_Warhe, how do i install mplayer
[03:06] <saivert> sorry got to go. idling
[03:06] <Trashcan> zommgmgg it worked
[03:06] <saivert> IDLE!!!!
[03:06] <jay> where do i get the debs
[03:06] <Trashcan> <--- really happy
[03:06] <sexcopter8000m> hi, i'm trying to install a programme (unstuff), and this is in the instructions: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/5406 how do i do this?
[03:06] <mustard5> N6REJ, not that I know of
[03:07] <Trashcan> mustard5 is my new best friend :)
[03:07] <Xenguy> luisito: if it is not working, just run apt-setup and get setup
[03:07] <Trashcan> (and djk_)
[03:07] <Xenguy> luisito: at least you'll know your mirrors are correct
[03:07] <sexcopter8000m> oh no wait, i should learn to read..
[03:07] <Xenguy> er, sudo blah blah
[03:07] <N6REJ> mustard5: I haven't been able to get a valid package in hours!
[03:07] <N6REJ> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5404
[03:07] <sexcopter8000m> it says in the default installation /usr is included.. duh
[03:08] <david> how do i get codecs?
[03:08] <Trashcan> !restrictedformats
[03:08] <ubotu> [restrictedformats]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[03:08] <mustard5> N6REJ, hmmm..what mirror you using?
[03:09] <luisito> Xenguy, hlen. soundray, now it's working, when I delete the target directory, but now, where they are downloading?
[03:09] <N6REJ> I used "!easysource"
[03:09] <N6REJ> !repos
[03:09] <ubotu> repos is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[03:09] <david> mirror?im new
[03:09] <soundray> luisito, to the current directory.
[03:09] <bimberi> david: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:09] <Trashcan> david: the restrictedformats link is what you need
[03:10] <mustard5> N6REJ, is it 'us' mirror or another country mirror?
[03:10] <Trashcan> follow the instructions there to get wmv/avi/mp3 etc. to play
[03:10] <david> im from new zealand.ill try that
[03:10] <Xenguy> luisito: typically they are downloading to /var/cache/apt/archives , but if you use 'apt-get install' they should just install automagically
[03:11] <N6REJ> mustard5: US
[03:11] <mustard5> N6REJ, so its gpg key errors or total failure to find the repo?
[03:11] <N6REJ> gpg
[03:11] <soundray> I compiled and installed a couple of packages myself. Now Software Update is offering to install "updates" for the same packages all the time. How can I set it to keep the local versions?
[03:12] <mustard5> N6REJ, ah ok...one tick..I find a different solution to the gpg key errors the other day
[03:12] <N6REJ> mustard5: look here ... .http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5404
[03:12] <mustard5> N6REJ, I have to find a link that first
[03:12] <N6REJ> mustard5: k
[03:12] <luisito> Xenguy, ah, ok then. thanks. have to take note of that. I always do when something is new to me. ;P
[03:13] <vegos> can anyone tell me how to install a patch
[03:13] <gp_aaron> can someone tell me where i can get the ubuntu default cursor theme
[03:13] <mustard5> N6REJ, you could try removing all the 'us.' entries and not using the U.S. mirror
[03:13] <bimberi> soundray: Synaptic has a "Lock Version" option (in the Packages menu), try that for your packages
[03:13] <mustard5> N6REJ, I'm still looking for this link...brb
[03:13] <bimberi> *Package menu
[03:14] <N6REJ> mustard5: yeah... I just pulled the set off of !repos  I'm trying that first.
[03:14] <misfit_toy> gp_aaron, it should already be installed
[03:14] <Xenguy> vegos: man patch
[03:14] <Biscuitian_Warhe> How do I get CHAP MD5 set up with pppd?
[03:14] <gp_aaron> misfit_toy, i want it for another distro
[03:14] <soundray> bimberi, exactly what I was looking for. Cheers!
[03:14] <bimberi> soundray: np :)
[03:15] <vegos> what file extension should a patch have
[03:15] <david> can anyone help with my modem problem?is there any way around paying for the full driver because atm i have only got a trail driver for my modem and it only goes 14.4kbps where it should be going 50 kbps?
[03:15] <N6REJ> mustard5: what really sucks is I dl'd 1700+ packages and had them all ready to go when I saw the failure :(  all days work gone bye bye :S
[03:15] <gp_aaron> misfit_toy, you know where i can grab it from?
[03:15] <N6REJ> :-/
[03:15] <masingerz> Hey i have an ati video card and i found this generic driver over at the ati web:: https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=300 :: which one should I use? :: XFree86 4.1 :: XFree86 4.2 :: XFree86 4.3 :: x.org 6.8 :: Please advice
[03:16] <Mr_Milenko> i have an ati card
[03:16] <Biscuitian_Warhe> david: Get a serial modem my son. Linuxant isn't quite the best.
[03:16] <Mr_Milenko> old one..
[03:16] <soundray> david, not sure if this applies, but have you checked http://linmodems.org ?
[03:16] <mustard5> david, I take it you are talking about the linuxant drivers for conexant?
[03:16] <bimberi> masingerz: on ubuntu breezy - x.org 6.8
[03:16] <mulder> linuxant is a ripoff
[03:16] <misfit_toy> gp_aaron, I believe it would be in ~/.HOME/icons/BASE
[03:17] <gp_aaron> misfit_toy, i don't have ubuntu
[03:17] <doskey> ra.da.net
[03:17] <misfit_toy> gp_aaron, then I have no idea, I would bet you're outta luck without an install to pick it from
[03:17] <gp_aaron> hence why i'm asking in here
[03:17] <gp_aaron> maybe someone knows where i can get it
[03:18] <gp_aaron> if not
[03:18] <misfit_toy> gp_aaron, best of luck
[03:18] <gp_aaron> maybe they could zip up their local copy
[03:18] <david> yes.il look on that site
[03:18] <vegos> anyone know what an APIC error is?
[03:18] <Activision> ss
[03:19] <Xappe> gp_aaron: hang on. i'll fetch the name for you...I hope...
[03:19] <soundray> gp_aaron, it's in ubuntu-artwork
[03:20] <luisito> gp_aaron, what for you want them? another linux distro?
[03:20] <gp_aaron> yeah
[03:20] <Xappe> it's called gimmac or somnething like that
[03:20] <Xappe> i'll do a short search, w8
[03:20] <misfit_toy> if it's gimmac then that's on art.gnome.org
[03:20] <misfit_toy> and gnome-looks.org as well
[03:20] <gp_aaron> Xappe, i heard it was called human on ubuntu
[03:20] <Amaranth> misfit_toy: that's jimmac
[03:20] <soundray> gp_aaron, yes it is. http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/u/ubuntu-artwork/
[03:21] <misfit_toy> Amaranth, ah
[03:21] <Xappe> gp_aaron: yes, jimmac is the one
[03:21] <gp_aaron> Xappe, ok thanks :)
[03:22] <MunkieBoy> I have a question...how do I get KDM to display a theme ?
[03:23] <soundray> vegos, not precisely, but I had to sort one out before I was able to install Ubuntu...
[03:23] <Xappe> gp_aaron: i had to try remembering the name, by searching the old forums :) had to install it when the theme broke during hoary development
[03:23] <gp_aaron> heh
[03:23] <luisito> gp_aaron, I have them right now if you want.
[03:23] <gp_aaron> luisito, i got it
[03:23] <gp_aaron> thanks though:)
[03:23] <luisito> gp_aaron, ok
[03:24] <misfit_toy> for cursors that is
[03:25] <gp_aaron> i can't seem to get it to load though
[03:25] <vegos> what is apic
[03:25] <luisito> gp_aaron, they are on /usr/share/icons/Human/cursors
[03:25] <misfit_toy> luisito, he doesn't have ubuntu installed
[03:25] <luisito> gp_aaron, on a ubuntu distro of course :P
[03:25] <misfit_toy> luisito, zip it up for him and send it then ;)
[03:25] <soundray> vegos, Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller
[03:25] <sorush20> could anyone here help me with this compiling error http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5405
[03:25] <gp_aaron> luisito, no ubuntu
[03:26] <luisito> gp_aaron, I tell him but it seems he got them
[03:26] <gp_aaron> misfit_toy, i have the jimmac.tar.gz but it doesn't work..:|
[03:26] <misfit_toy> gp_aaron, doesn't work on what?
[03:26] <gp_aaron> misfit_toy, i'm trying to load it up
[03:26] <gp_aaron> won't work
[03:26] <misfit_toy> gp_aaron, in what? what distro?
[03:27] <korhalf> hey, how do i make date present the date in a format similar to what ls -al gives about files
[03:27] <gp_aaron> gnome using gcursor on archlinux
[03:27] <korhalf> similar to this format i mean : 2005-12-04 20:52
[03:27] <misfit_toy> gp_aaron, I've seen some cursor themes just not load in gcursor on various distros, this might be one of them.
[03:28] <gp_aaron> i'll do it manually:P
[03:28] <rendi> hi how read end of file, what command to see that ?
[03:28] <soundray> korhalf, it's documented in man date
[03:28] <korhalf> soundray: can you explain
[03:28] <gp_aaron> luisito, dcc don't seem to work
[03:28] <misfit_toy> gp_aaron, firewall
[03:28] <N6REJ> mustard5: nope, that failed too :(
[03:29] <_jason> rendi, tail
[03:29] <mustard5> N6REJ, hmmm
[03:29] <rendi> tail ?
[03:29] <gp_aaron> firewall, iptables, router, nat all kinds of things
[03:29] <rendi> type tail ?
[03:29] <mustard5> ok send me a pm I'll walk you through this idea..I can't find the link
[03:29] <korhalf> soundray: whats the exact command
[03:29] <mustard5> N6REJ,  ok send me a pm I'll walk you through this idea..I can't find the link
[03:29] <_jason> rendi,  tail path/to/file
[03:29] <luisito> gp_aaron, hmmm.... email?
[03:29] <soundray> korhalf, I don't know the exact invocation, but you can work it out yourself if you enter 'man date' and look at the FORMAT section.
[03:29] <luisito> gp_aaron, or msn
[03:29] <gp_aaron> luisito, i think the one i got works
[03:30] <gp_aaron> sec
[03:30] <rendi> thanks _jason
[03:30] <_jason> rendi, tail outputs the last 10 lines of a file
[03:30] <N6REJ> mustard5: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5407
[03:30] <mahangu_> i need to package an OOo presentation for winblows, how can I do this and makes sure fonts and stuff will carry over?
[03:30] <luisito> gp_aaron, ok.
[03:30] <soundray> korhalf, date --iso-8601 gives you the date (not time) part.
[03:30] <Thunderguy> Hey, should I be concerned about 13% block fragmentation?
[03:31] <winnipegm> how do u mount ntfs drives on ubuntu
[03:31] <korhalf> soundray: man i cant figure it out, its giving me errors
[03:31] <Xenguy> !u
[03:31] <ubotu> The letter 'U' is not a pronoun, unless you're Dutch.  U mag wel 'je' zeggen, hoor.
[03:31] <korhalf> date -d %D
[03:31] <soundray> Thunderguy, is your disk nearly full?
[03:31] <levander> Just upgraded to breezy and first thing I notice is that I can no longer "hide" the sticky notes on my desktop.  Somebody can tell me how to do this?
[03:31] <winnipegm> how do i mount ntfs on unbuntu
[03:32] <soundray> !tell winnipegm about ntfs
[03:32] <Thunderguy> soundray: nope, but the partition is probably reaching 80% full
[03:32] <levander> !tell levander about ntfs
[03:32] <Xenguy> winnipegm: AFAIK ntfs is read-only except with experimental only software
[03:32] <gp_aaron> yep all good
[03:32] <gp_aaron> :)
[03:32] <gp_aaron> thanks
[03:32] <gp_aaron> byebye
[03:32] <_jason> levander, you can just pm ubotu and he will tell you all you want to know
[03:32] <soundray> Thunderguy, what file system is on that partition?
[03:32] <Xappe> gp_aaron: it was the theme you wanted, right?
[03:32] <gp_aaron> yep:)
[03:32] <gp_aaron> thanks
[03:32] <Thunderguy> soundray: ext2
[03:33] <levander> Nobdy knows how to hide gnome sticky notes on the desktop?
[03:33] <soundray> Thunderguy, in that case, you shouldn't have the slightest worry whatsoever.
[03:33] <mustard5> N6REJ, hmm...the errors look like something slightly different from a gpg key error
[03:33] <Thunderguy> soundray: will the defragmentation level correct itself over time?
[03:33] <Thunderguy> fragmentation*
[03:34] <N6REJ> mustard5: dunno, just that it ain't working :(
[03:34] <soundray> Thunderguy, it depends on how you use the partition.
[03:34] <winnipegm> i have 1tb of readonly u mean i cant use the drives??????????????
[03:34] <Thunderguy> soundray: files move in and out all the time, probably 1 gig per day, and it's a 10 gig partition.
[03:34] <soundray> Thunderguy, it is conceivable that your usage pattern promotes fragmentation, but it is exceedingly unlikely.
[03:34] <mustard5> N6REJ, I would try going into synaptic and refreshing the default keys..as a long shot
[03:34] <navarone> I just lost my sound. Whenever I click a mp3 file in file browser It gives me an error saying I had not configured my soundcard or improper input output...how do i fix. Was working earlier today...?
[03:35] <Madpilot> levander: try Tomboy, it's far more flexible than gnome sticky notes
[03:35] <N6REJ> mustard5: ok.. let me try that.
[03:35] <soundray> Thunderguy, it's a production system, isn't it?
[03:35] <levander> Apparently you just click on the desktop to hide sticky notes now.
[03:35] <winnipegm> Xenguy, does that mean i cant use the 1tb of windows harddrives i have stuff on it
[03:35] <Thunderguy> soundray: Alright, hey if I for instance create another ext2, move the contents of 'usr' into there empty usr, then append fstab to mount that partition in usr, do you think I would have any problems?
[03:35] <levander> Madpilot: i'll look at tomboy, thanks
[03:36] <snoopy> I have a problem with the logon: when the screensaver is turned on , and then if you press switch user and try and logon with the same account, and press the button to go back to the same session, it does not go back and makes me log on again
[03:36] <Thunderguy> soundray: I just do whatever on it, music, irc, web-surfing, games
[03:36] <mustard5> N6REJ, it should be in settings>>repositories>>authentication and then reset to default keys
[03:36] <Xenguy> winnipegm: if you have a terabyte of data, then you need to stop and do some reading right now :-)
[03:36] <levander> Has anybody implemented gestures to control the gnome desktop?  Like stroke-it for windows?
[03:37] <soundray> Thunderguy, you could move /usr as you say, but the data in /usr shouldn't normally be this dynamic.
[03:37] <soundray> Thunderguy, /home and /var are for data that change this often.
[03:37] <Thunderguy> soundray: What I'm figuring is moving it to another partition to create extra space.
[03:38] <MunkieBoy> How do I apply a KDM theme?
[03:38] <Thunderguy> soundray: or do you think gparted could resize my partition?
[03:38] <soundray> Thunderguy, Xenguy seems to have a suggestion for you...
[03:39] <MunkieBoy> :(
[03:39] <mconsidine> quit
[03:40] <mconsidine> logout
[03:40] <Xenguy> bye
[03:40] <nickrud> MunkieBoy, you might have bettr luck on #kubuntu
[03:40] <N6REJ> mustard5: gonna try something simple like NVU
[03:40] <mconsidine> bye
[03:40] <mustard5> N6REJ, k
[03:40] <Xenguy>  /quit
[03:40] <MunkieBoy> somebody told me here and not I'm being refered
[03:40] <MunkieBoy> again
[03:40] <MunkieBoy> wow...
[03:40] <MunkieBoy> thanks bye
[03:42] <karina> Hi guys
[03:42] <karina> how can I play mpg movie files in ubuntu?
[03:42] <vegos> how do you set boot options?
[03:43] <levander> Well, I upgraded to breezy and I must say, I notice no difference whatsoever.
[03:43] <soundray> vegos, do you boot with grub?
[03:43] <Amaranth> levander: It's mostly the little things.
[03:43] <Madpilot> !tell karina about restricted
[03:43] <Amaranth> levander: And laptop support.
[03:43] <levander> What a pain in the ass.
[03:43] <levander> Amaranth: the little things?
[03:43] <Amaranth> levander: bugs fixed and such
[03:43] <Madpilot> levander: on my system (desktop) Breezy boots significantly faster
[03:43] <N6REJ> mustard5: failed the first time I'm trying again.
[03:43] <vegos> yes
[03:43] <chorse> karina, /boot/grub/menu.lst, the option is called kopt
[03:43] <sorush20> could anyone here help me with this compiling error http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5405
[03:44] <Fangz> levander: OOo 2?
[03:44] <Amaranth> and of course without upgrading to breezy you can't upgrade to dapper
[03:44] <levander> Amaranth: actually I wasn't expecting much really, i wasn't going to upgrade, but wanted to use some software that uses the rails package.  hoary didn't have a rails package, breezy does
[03:44] <mustard5> N6REJ, let me try something....might be better in PM
[03:44] <navarone> sorted the sound...just had to reboot for effects to take hold
[03:44] <navarone> :)
[03:44] <chorse> err soundray, i mean. i really should go to bed now.
[03:44] <soundray> vegos, chorse's line to karina was meant for you.
[03:44] <levander> Amaranth: figured it was easier to upgrade than to install rails manually myself
[03:44] <thewayofzen> if im currently using Linux 2.6.12-10-386  is it safe to rm all of *-2.6.12-9-386 in the /boot
[03:44] <chorse> damn late again :)
[03:44] <navarone> thewayofzen,  you can do that thru Synaptic
[03:44] <levander> Amaranth: dapper is going to be a bigger deal?  or, that's just always the way it is, have to upgrade one release at a time?
[03:44] <soundray> chorse, I concur with your assessment :)
[03:44] <vegos> im confused, im pretty new can you be alittle more detailed
[03:45] <Amaranth> thewayofzen: No.
[03:45] <N6REJ> mustard5: ok.. failed again. :(
[03:45] <Amaranth> thewayofzen: Uninstall the linux-image package.
[03:45] <soundray> vegos, do you know how to edit a file?
[03:45] <Amaranth> thewayofzen: The one for that kernel version, I mean.
[03:45] <vegos> yes
[03:45] <thewayofzen> Amaranth,  ok will try that.
[03:45] <soundray> vegos, open /boot/grub/menu.lst for editing.
[03:45] <levander> I'm gonna go look at the plans for dapper on the wiki
[03:46] <Amaranth> levander: One release at a time.
[03:46] <soundray> vegos, find a line that starts #kopt or similar.
[03:46] <vegos> ok
[03:46] <Amaranth> levander: But dapper is getting xorg 7, which should give you some improvements
[03:46] <soundray> vegos, add your boot option to that line.
[03:46] <Amaranth> levander: Like composite not being so buggy.
[03:46] <bimberi> sorush20: xlibs-dev ? (i'm guessing though)
[03:46] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, i just thought of something
[03:46] <soundray> vegos, save and close the file, then run sudo update-grub in a terminal.
[03:46] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid what?
[03:47] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, im running an lcd monitor and nvidia-settings say Display Device --> CRT-0
[03:47] <soundray> vegos: Now if you've made a mistake, your system may not boot.
[03:47] <vegos> do i just add it with spaces in between options
[03:47] <Faust> Anyone using TinyX?
[03:47] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, do you think this could be an issue?
[03:47] <Johnson_> how do i download like 3 levels of a webpage ontp me pc
[03:47] <theCore> how i can install flash in epiphany ?
[03:47] <phoul> How do i use visual boy advance on ubuntu?
[03:47] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid no big deal there, sometimes it sees lcds as crts...
[03:48] <vilefridge> Hello :)  I'm wondering how to retain 'list view' in Nautillus?  If I select 'list view', as soon as I browse to another directory, it reverts back to icon view...
[03:48] <phoul> I downloaded it from synaptic
[03:48] <soundray> vegos, yes, just don't put spaces around the = sign, if your option has one.
[03:48] <phoul> But it dont *appear* to work
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> phoul,  run it,  and tell it a gba rom file to load.
[03:48] <vegos> i found a line that looks like this: kopt=root=/dev/hda3 ro
[03:48] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, im just wondering if there is a kernel option
[03:48] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, that i need to set for lcd
[03:48] <phoul> Dr_Willis, i tried it says it dont exist
[03:48] <Amaranth> 3.3
[03:48] <soundray> vegos, you can append your boot option there.
[03:48] <nekostar> help!!
[03:48] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid, nah, analog output is mostly all the same
[03:48] <nekostar> my computer cant see its hard drives anymore
[03:48] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, k
[03:48] <nekostar> i got a new one
[03:48] <soundray> vegos, what exactly are you appending?
[03:48] <nekostar> it had windows
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> phoul,  clarify that... "what" says what dosent exit?
[03:48] <nekostar> :/
[03:48] <vegos> these are the options:"acpi=off" and "noapic".
[03:49] <phoul> If i run Visalboyadvance
[03:49] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, the guy in #nvidia says his 5200 is running just fine in ubuntu this is crazy stuff :)
[03:49] <soundray> vegos, these are safe for booting, but your system may overheat.
[03:49] <phoul> Cannot display location 'file://visualboyadvance'
[03:49] <phoul> Details: There is no default action associated with this location
[03:49] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid, bad luck man :(\
[03:49] <nekostar> any clue wtf would happen there?
[03:49] <chorse> vegos, you can't, it's an example line with a # comment and options you don't want to have. create a new blank line starting with kopf=
[03:49] <chorse> kopt=
[03:49] <nekostar> i was installing windows again as a primary os
[03:49] <nekostar> then gonna install ubuntu as secondary
[03:49] <soundray> chorse NO!
[03:49] <vegos> what do you mean overheat
[03:50] <nekostar> and had to reboot in the middle of the whole process
[03:50] <nekostar> b/c it locked up
[03:50] <theCore> phoul, check your spelling, you can use TAB to auto-complete in the xterm
[03:50] <soundray> chorse, the line is supposed to start with a #
[03:50] <Toma-> phoul: try "visualboyadvance gamefile.gba"
[03:50] <Faust> is the 2.4 kernel still available/installable?
[03:50] <nekostar> yes Faust
[03:50] <Faust> thanks
[03:50] <soundray> vegos, some systems may get to hot if you run with acpi=off, because acpi controls the fans.
[03:51] <chorse> soundray, how can he add a boot option in a comment line?
[03:51] <nictuku> do you guys think a subscription of o'reilly safari is worthy?
[03:51] <nekostar> i dont remember the command though >_<
[03:51] <korhalf> anybody know how to get the format of Date out the same as in a file when u run ls -al
[03:51] <korhalf> im readin ghte man but cant figure it out
[03:51] <soundray> chorse, update-grub reads commented lines.
[03:51] <Johnson_> dose any one here now how to use httrack or how to download multiple levels of a website atall??????????
[03:51] <vegos> so this option would not be good to do
[03:51] <Johnson_> plz
[03:51] <phoul> Nope still dont work :(
[03:51] <navarone> Johnson man wget
[03:51] <chorse> soundray, oh, okay, my fault, then.
[03:51] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, know if i should disable Sync to VBlank options maybe?
[03:51] <soundray> chorse, update-grub only ignores lines starting with ##
[03:51] <phoul> Anyone willing to help me get it working/
[03:51] <Johnson_> i tryed wget but it still didnt work for me
[03:52] <ale3hs> what should do add in sources_list to install Rhythmob 0.9.2 ?? ubuntu has only rthythmbox 0.9.1 that crashes all the time with the radio
[03:52] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid shouldnt make a difference as far as that is concerned
[03:52] <phoul> Anyone?
[03:52] <soundray> vegos, if you're not on a laptop, don't worry about the heat problem for now.
[03:52] <vegos> i am
[03:52] <Johnson_> do u know thew command in wget so i can download diffrent levels?
[03:52] <jgw__> i followed the instructions to install the nividia binary driver from ubuntuguide.org, but it looks like it didnt install correctly as it looks like i'm using the same xorg "nv" driver. how do i tell for sure? (this is on breezy)
[03:52] <phoul> Can somone help me get visualboyadvance working?
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> phoul,  VisualBoyAdvance harvestmoon.zip   worked for me
[03:53] <theCore> phoul, please don't ask for a pet
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> you aint even trying the right command name are ya :P
[03:53] <jakob> i just migrated from debian sarge to ubuntu 5.10 but if I copy my ".evolution" dir (from evo 2.0) in my home dir and start evo 2.4, my calendars are all gone. also, I cannot see my imap mails in the "inbox", other folders work fine
[03:53] <korhalf> Dr_Willis: do you know what syntax i use to format the date output similar to how it looks when you type ls -al and see the date in there?
[03:53] <soundray> vegos, I suggest you only add noapic for now, then.
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> korhalf,  Nope.  rarely mess with that stuff sorry.
[03:54] <vegos> will that fix my problem
[03:54] <phoul> colin@ubuntu:~$ VisualBoyAdvance (DGEmu.com)0171 - Golden Sun (U)(Mode 7).zip
[03:54] <phoul> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `DGEmu.com'
[03:54] <soundray> vegos, what's the trouble you're trying to fix, anyway?
[03:54] <Johnson_> some one in here must know how to use Wget
[03:54] <meheren> is there a way to create a free floating panel?
[03:54] <vegos> im having trouble with my clock going 2 times faster than it should
[03:54] <jakob> also, tasks from other groups than "personal" are gone. are there some right way to upgrade from evo 2.0 to 2.4?
[03:54] <vegos> it was suggested that i boot with those options
[03:54] <jgw__> i followed the instructions to install the nividia binary driver from ubuntuguide.org, but it looks like it didnt install correctly as it looks like i'm using the same xorg "nv" driver. how do i tell for sure? (this is on breezy)
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> wget ftp://foobar.com/file/to/get.zip
[03:54] <korhalf> Dr_Willis: can you check man im reading the manual for it and i dont get it
[03:54] <theCore> korhalf, date --iso-8601
[03:54] <phoul> Dr_Willis, colin@ubuntu:~$ VisualBoyAdvance (DGEmu.com)0171 - Golden Sun (U)(Mode 7).zip
[03:54] <phoul> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `DGEmu.com'
[03:54] <meheren> or even a centered panel that is nt going the whole way accorss the screen?
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> vegos,  Turion Processor?
[03:55] <soundray> Johnson_, they probably do, but I for one would have to look up the man page, and you can do that for yourself.
[03:55] <vegos> AMD
[03:55] <Amaranth> !tell jgw__ about nvidia
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> phoul,  rename the rom file to somthing sensable.
[03:55] <vegos> i think it is
[03:55] <Johnson_> i did but it didnt work it was like a -l
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> phoul,  or put the whole name in single quotes   '     '
[03:55] <Johnson_> but i typed it in and i starting downloading the whole internet
[03:55] <meheren> is there a way to "center a panel so it does not go all the way accross the screen?
[03:55] <jgw__> thanks amaranth, i'll take a look :)
[03:55] <soundray> Dr_Willis, is this a known problem then?
[03:56] <Johnson_> so i put -l 4 to do 4 levels and it carryed on downloading the whole net
[03:56] <meheren> *"center"
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> soundray,  yep.. Ubuntu 5.10 was the best disrto for my Compaq V2311 - and it had that issue.  I had to givbe some option to the kernel to fix it..
[03:56] <mustard5> Johnson_, you read through the manual using man wget?
[03:56] <soundray> Johnson_, give it a start page then.
[03:56] <Johnson_> i do
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> soundray,  i THINK i used 'noapci, noapic, nolapic'   and perhaps one other.
[03:56] <gp_aaron> can someone search if gobby is in the ubuntu repo and if so which repo it is in
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> soundray,  the exact ones needed sort of vary from box to box.
[03:57] <Johnson_> a i wanted to download the whole python tutorials online and i just cant get them
[03:57] <soundray> vegos, did you read Dr_Willis? I suggest you only add noapic for now.
[03:57] <vegos> ok
[03:57] <locomorto> Johnson_: Have you tried the books?
[03:57] <navarone> Johnson...there is a flag for wget where you specify how deep into links you go in a website.  You can specify specific filetypes as well
[03:57] <Maerten> (Question@installation): Is it possible to somehow mount the i386 ubuntu5.1 install ISO with the Ubuntu 64bit LIVE CD, and install ubuntu 32bit. (I already have the right partitions with currently a 64bit ubuntu install). Thanks for your help!
[03:57] <vegos> so what would that option look like
[03:57] <soundray> vegos, what's your current kopt line again?
[03:57] <RobNyc> Why I cant mount my reiser4 partition when the reiser4progs is installed
[03:57] <Johnson_> god a flag
[03:57] <Dr_Willis> vegos,  i bet ya want me to go fire up my laptop and look dont ya.. :P
[03:58] <Johnson_> this is complex for me
[03:58] <Johnson_> ok
[03:58] <locomorto> Johnson_: http://www.greenteapress.com/thinkpython/
[03:58] <XRange> can anyone help me wit sound "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[03:58] <XRange> "
[03:58] <vegos> # kopt=root=/dev/hda3 ro
[03:58] <vegos> haha
[03:58] <meheren> is there a way to "center" a panel?
[03:58] <soundray> vegos, so change that to # kopt=root=/dev/hda3 ro noapic
[03:58] <soundray> vegos, all in one line of course
[03:58] <jgw__> amaranth: ah the problem is that i am running a custom 2.6.14 kernel :)
[03:59] <vilefridge> Hello :)  I'm wondering how to retain 'list view' in Nautillus?  If I select 'list view', as soon as I browse to another directory, it reverts back to icon view...
[03:59] <vegos> ok now what
[03:59] <soundray> vegos, save the file and exit
[03:59] <vegos> ok
[03:59] <soundray> vegos, now run sudo update-grub in a terminal.
[03:59] <XRange> can anyone help me wit sound "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory"
[04:00] <vegos> ok
[04:00] <phoul> Dr_Willis, i have it running but i cant like click okay and A wont work either...
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> phoul,  Huh? what are ya talking about? :P
[04:00] <soundray> vegos, to check if it worked, do a 'grep kernel /boot/grub/menu.lst' and see if noapic shows in the result line(s)
[04:00] <phoul> During the game
[04:00] <meheren> can i create a "floating panel"?
[04:00] <phoul> How come i cant click anything
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> phoul,  the GBA emulator has the buttons maped to the keyboard.. No clicking.
[04:01] <XRange> guess i ws wrong to come looking for hrlp here
[04:01] <phoul> okay well it dont work if i press A either
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> phoul,  remap the keys how ya like.. or check the docs for what ones do what.
[04:01] <meheren> xrange what you need help wit?
[04:01] <vegos> its there
[04:01] <XRange> alsa  i guess lspci shows my card but i get no sound
[04:01] <soundray> vegos, excellent, you can reboot then and see if your clock is still fast.
[04:01] <meheren> can i create a "floating panel"?
[04:01] <vegos> ok
[04:01] <vegos> thanks alot
[04:02] <Mabus06> What's the bots channell? (looking for info on blootbots, but it's rather OT here)
[04:02] <Johnson_> bitchin
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> soundray,  i am using JUST the   noapic nolapic options it seems.
[04:02] <Johnson_> what about httracker anyone know how to use that
[04:03] <navarone> no idea
[04:03] <XRange> no sound from this device "0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)"
[04:03] <soundray> Dr_Willis, will you be around for a while?
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> yea till about midnight
[04:03] <XRange> it use wrok for upgrade other night
[04:03] <ClayG> ffff
[04:03] <soundray> Dr_Willis, what timezone :) ?
[04:03] <navarone> Johnson you can also feed wget a file containing http address and it will download the files at those addresses
[04:05] <navarone> but I dont think opload...ftp for that...:)
[04:05] <jgrieves> sudo gdmflexiserver --xnest opens a window, and than quickly closes it any ideas?
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> soundray,  its 10:00pm here. ;P
[04:05] <chorse> midnight? that must be somewhere close atlantis
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> soundray,  this is Indiana - we cant handle the idea of timezones.
[04:06] <soundray> Dr_Willis, okay, I'm on UTC and I need my bed :) If vegos still has problems, can you tell him to add nolapic to his kopt line please?
[04:06] [theCore(n=ubuntu@Toronto-HSE-ppp3714657.sympatico.ca)]  ping
[04:06] <Johnson_> hmmmmmmmmmmmm thats long
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> soundray,  ok :P i mentioned it to him berfor.. perhps he will think on his own. LOL.
[04:07] <kismet> is there a problem with writing GUI applications for Linux?
[04:07] <ubuntu>  Hello
[04:07] <Johnson_> hi
[04:07] <xaar> hi
[04:07] <goyangfc> hey guys im on the installation and the installation stops
[04:07] <soundray> Dr_Willis, yeah, but he needed a lot of handholding through editing menu.lst - I think he'll need you.
[04:07] <ubuntu> I'm trying out the ubuntu live cd Very interesting
[04:08] <goyangfc> it says that the debootstrap program exited with an error
[04:08] <ubuntu> goyangfc, what is the errror message if any?
[04:08] <jgrieves> sudo gdmflexiserver --xnest opens a window, and than quickly closes it any ideas?
[04:08] <goyangfc> i am not able to install the base
[04:08] <navarone> There a live band at midnight ubuntu...<s>....j/k...lol
[04:08] <xaar> bye
[04:08] <goyangfc> ubuntu, it says that the debootstrap program exited with an error
[04:08] <goyangfc> ubuntu, i am not able to install the base
[04:09] <navarone> ubuntu> Install is easy...but try to sort partition first if you can...like for a new harddrive
[04:09] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, think it could be a sound isuee?
[04:09] <kismet> where do developers get together on this network?
[04:09] <goyangfc> can anyone help me?
[04:09] <vilefridge> Hello :)  I'm wondering how to retain 'list view' in Nautillus?  If I select 'list view', as soon as I browse to another directory, it reverts back to icon view...  I'm looking for the "apply to all windows"ish button but can't find it.. anyone?
[04:09] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid doubt it, glxgears doesnt depend on that
[04:09] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, i tried to enable low sound detail on ut2004 and everything just went to hell
[04:10] <djk_> kismet: most likely #ubuntu-devel
[04:10] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, yeah but glx isnt a benchmark.. plus my card is not agp like yours
[04:10] <djk_> kismet: or did you mean developers in general and not ubuntu-devs?
[04:10] <rayiner> hi. does anybody know how to force a modline setting on the 'nv' driver?
[04:10] <goyangfc> insipid: during installing the base, it says that the debootstrap program exited with an error
[04:10] <navarone> kismet try Windows/Channel list and refresh list...with dev in regex field to find channel
[04:10] <annex> Using the console version of the official bittorrent client (4.2) for multiple torrents is there a way to see the total uploaded and downloaded?
[04:10] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid it is pci?
[04:10] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, yes
[04:10] <insipid> goyangfc, no
[04:10] <rayiner> for some reason it thinks my 1920x1200 monitor is actually 1280x1024, and ignores any modelines specifying something larger
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> vilefridge,  theres the 'spatial' and 'browser' modes of the Naitulus file manager. if you want everything to stay in 1 window and keep the settings use  the 'navigonational' mode.
[04:11] <goyangfc> insipid: what does that mean?
[04:11] <bimberi> vilefridge: Edit -> Preferences -> Open New Folders using
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> vilefridge,  "Navigational" -> "like a browser" --> like windows does.
[04:11] <insipid> goyangfc, thought you were talking to me
[04:11] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid hmm, it could be, but I just read that ut2004 has some lib issues...localization or something
[04:11] <navarone> and spatial is...?
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> navarone,  a pain. :P
[04:12] <navarone> I would think so...lol
[04:12] <vilefridge> bimberi, Dr_Willis: Thank you very much!! :D
[04:12] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, ok? is there something i need to do?
[04:13] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid it just said the issue is well known..I dont know it..google for it?
[04:13] <The_Isle_of_Mark> I dont have ut2004
[04:14] <jgw__> !tell
[04:14] <jgw__> !tell me about nvidia
[04:15] <musk_> I guess I am ignoring the breezy upgrade and sticking with hoary?
[04:15] <_jason> musk_, why?
[04:15] <lawrence> Breezy is fun
[04:15] <kismet> why must there be mutliple desktop environments?
[04:16] <jgw__> choice
[04:16] <poningru> evening guys
[04:16] <djk_> kismet: choice perhaps?
[04:16] <_jason> kismet,  for choice
[04:16] <jgw__> how do i get ubotu to tell me about nvidia?
[04:16] <kismet> how about 1 desktop environment that allows use of modularized widgets
[04:16] <djk_> ubotu tell jgw__ about nvidia
[04:16] <jgw__> i'm trying to use its help facilities and i'm not getting any messages
[04:16] <kismet> jgw__, what you wanna know?
[04:16] <vegos> dr willis, i the noapic worked but i counldnt connect via wireless
[04:16] <jgw__> kismet: just stuff thats been asked a hundred times before in here, i'm sure
[04:17] <jgw__> thanks djk :)
[04:17] <lawrence> We should trash gnome, kde, *box, and the rest and have everyone use twm
[04:17] <djk_> jgw__: no problem :)
[04:17] <pepsi> lets all switch to windows!
[04:17] <djk_> lawrence: blasphemy!
[04:17] <luisito> if I want to learn programming in linux, here alone in my house, where I should begin?
[04:17] <lawrence> Alone, that's a good start
[04:17] <kismet> luisito, you know languages?
[04:18] <djk_> luisito: by reading a book about linux :)
[04:18] <lawrence> Most of us don't get to that point until about 10 days after we start ;)
[04:18] <luisito> kismet, not at all
[04:18] <jgw__> luis: i liked "Teach Yourself C In Linux Programming in 21 Days", "Joy of C", and of course the K&R C book
[04:18] <ubuntu> get a good book on C C++ and any other programming languages
[04:18] <jgw__> luis: also Beginning Linux Programming by Wrox Press is good after you learn C
[04:18] <kismet> luisito, learn C/C++. C++ is cooler, IMO, but C is kind of required
[04:18] <djk_> ubuntu: especially brainf*ck heh..
[04:18] <Sinistrad> luisito, http://www.ibiblio.org/obp/thinkCSpy/
[04:19] <jgw__> oh heh, i guess i shouldve asked luisito what he wanted to code, first
[04:19] <vegos> my clock is 2 times faster than it should be, can anyone help
[04:19] <djk_> jgw__: isn't the K&R C rather outdated?
[04:20] <lawrence> Yeah, I thought that K&R was pretty different from "modern" C
[04:20] <phoul> GAH!
[04:20] <dip> hi can someone dcc me their sources.list ?
[04:20] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, wow this guys geforce 4 is running onslaught mode ut2004 at 40 fps in linux
[04:20] <phoul> Why wont it work ><
[04:20] <luisito> well, first of all I need some kind of clue... let me explain...
[04:20] <morphix> hmm..
[04:21] <phoul> I have it open and im looking for somethign with a hex editer and i know its there because i found it on my friends computor
[04:21] <The_Isle_of_Mark> pretty sweet
[04:21] <phoul> but khex wont find it!
[04:21] <firestone> is there a gtkpod build that includes mp4v2 support?
[04:21] <lawrence> A lot of people start w/ java
[04:21] <bimberi> ubotu tell dip about sources
[04:21] <djk_> dip: check your query
[04:21] <Mabus06> can someone help me with some irc networking troubles with blootbot (same type as ubotu)
[04:21] <phoul> Anyone know why that would be?
[04:21] <jgw__> djk: nah
[04:21] <phoul> Or is Khex shit
[04:22] <jgw__> djk: they have ansi c editions of K&R
[04:22] <luisito> I know in visual basic (windows) I can do windows aplications, now... in C what is an example of an aplication made in C?, for example
[04:22] <morphix> having dual booted win xp with ubuntu.. in ubuntu i cant access my windows hdds (ntfs) cause the permissions are defaulted to 'root' being the owner of the hdds... so i cant look into the drives without being root.. how can i change the permissions so i can let my normal user account access those hdds?
[04:22] <firestone> is there a gtkpod build that includes mp4v2 support?
[04:22] <jgw__> personally i just use K&R as a reference, not for learning
[04:22] <Mabus06> can someone help me with some irc networking troubles with blootbot (same type as ubotu)
[04:22] <phoul> anyone?
[04:22] <mahangu> where are my fonts in ubuntu?
[04:22] <phoul> will anyone answer me?
[04:22] <jgw__> luisito: most thinks in linux/unix are written in C
[04:22] <kismet> luisito, i think things are much different for linux
[04:23] <mahangu> Mabus06, this is not a bot support channel
[04:23] <djk_> jgw__: well yes, but ansi isn't the same as K&R..
[04:23] <lawrence> luisito, don't start with VB
[04:23] <Mabus06> mahangu, well nobody pointed me to the bot support channell
[04:23] <jgw__> and visual basic is basically just a user-friendly frontend to the C-based Win32 API ;)
[04:23] <phoul> Anyone?
[04:23] <jgw__> djk: the latest edition is ;)
[04:23] <mahangu> Mabus06, like i said, this is #ubuntu support
[04:23] <Mabus06> and mahangu it's full of people who use IRC and are familiar with networking. It has little to do with blootbot
[04:23] <djk_> jgw__: heh.. isn't that a step backwards then?
[04:23] <jgw__> djk: what i'm saying is that there have been one or two new editions of the K&R book since the original
[04:23] <lawrence> luisito, vb teaches bad programming
[04:24] <Mabus06> yes I can read, thanks
[04:24] <phoul> Will antyone help me?
[04:24] <luisito> ok then, the advice of all of you is for me to start first with C and then go to C++?
[04:24] <djk_> jgw__: the various versions of C are quite confusing I think
[04:24] <jgw__> luisito: i agree with the others. VB is not a good landuage to learn if you want to be a programmer
[04:24] <phoul> Whats up with the hex problem im havin?
[04:24] <Mabus06> phoul, try to ask your question in one line so people don't think you're talking to someone else
[04:24] <Mabus06> and then repeat your question every 5 minutes if nobody answers
[04:24] <Nikusan> hi all, can anyone help me with DVD related problems?
[04:24] <jgw__> djk: yeah, i just go with the flow, which is a bastardization of C89/99 and GCC extensions l)
[04:25] <morphix> Mabus06 whats your problem?
[04:25] <Sinistrad> Nikusan, not if you don't ask a question regarding those problems.
[04:25] <phoul> I opened a file with my hex editer and the thing im looking for isnt there now it should be i found it on my friends computor why isnt it
[04:25] <luisito> ok, VB is out of the plan then
[04:25] <Madpilot> !tell mahangu about fonts
[04:25] <mahangu> Mabus06, this is an ubuntu support channel.
[04:25] <luisito> son, first C later C++ <---that's the right way?
[04:26] <djk_> luisito: doesn't really matter.
[04:26] <kismet> Well....
[04:26] <Mabus06> mahangu, thanks for the info
[04:26] <Sinistrad> luisito, that's not my advice.  Start with something relatively easy and useful (python, for example).
[04:26] <mahangu> Mabus06, np, google is your friend
[04:26] <Mabus06> Are you going to hassell the guy who asked about DVDs too?
[04:26] <djk_> or java..
[04:26] <GTroy> if I have mplayer installed, and FF wants to know what the default player should be, where do I find the player?
[04:26] <jgw__> luisito: what computing platform do you want to code for? windows? linux?
[04:26] <_jason> luisito, go with c++ first, it's easier to do C knowing c++ than the other way around imo
[04:26] <phoul> I opened a file with my hex editer and the thing im looking for isnt there now it should be i found it on my friends computor why isnt it
[04:26] <chorse> or c#
[04:26] <djk_> or brainfuck
[04:26] <Mabus06> Or mplayer? or c?
[04:26] <Mabus06> It's ubuntu related. So if you feel like blowing wind please blow it in another direction.
[04:26] <chorse> djk_, bf is not that user friendly
[04:27] <djk_> chorse: uh, yes it is..
[04:27] <Shady> so... I just got linux and I've never used IRC before. I keep getting this vt 8 and I don't know what it means.
[04:27] <phoul> I opened a file with my hex editer and the thing im looking for isnt there now it should be i found it on my friends computor why isnt it
[04:27] <luisito> jgw__, linux, I want to help Linux
[04:27] <djk_> chorse: what's difficult about bf?
[04:27] <djk_> chorse: there's hardly anything you need to know to use it..
[04:27] <The_Isle_of_Mark> !runlevel
[04:27] <kismet> luisito, me too
[04:27] <ubotu> The_Isle_of_Mark: Wish i knew
[04:27] <chorse> djk_, oh for me nothing really. but most newbs have problems with it.
[04:27] <djk_> chorse: i can't see how one can have problems with EIGHT commands..
[04:27] <Nikusan> I've got libdvdcss2, I can watch DVDs fine in Ogle, but they won't open in VLC or Totem. Anyone know why?
[04:28] <jgw__> luisito: then learn C, or Perl, or Python
[04:28] <phoul> Gah anyone?
[04:28] <fr500> hello
[04:28] <phoul> I opened a file with my hex editer and the thing im looking for isnt there now it should be i found it on my friends computor why isnt it <-------- or is khex just a peice of shit
[04:28] <Shady> Hello.
[04:28] <luisito> jgw__, kismet, I think the future and the power is in our hands with Linux
[04:28] <chorse> djk_, most people have already problems with one command, "stfu"
[04:28] <fr500> i dont have any cds left now, how can i install breezy from my lan, i have a windows box that has the cd image
[04:29] <MarcN> phoul: do you use emacs?  Try M-x hexl-mode
[04:29] <phoul> No i use khex
[04:29] <jgw__> luis: thats why i use linux :) (not to get all political)
[04:29] <djk_> chorse: was that an example or directed at me ;)
[04:29] <mahangu> fr500, there was a way to install from an .iso, but why not just get a CD
[04:29] <mahangu> it'l be a LOT easier
[04:29] <navarone> what kind of file phoul?
[04:29] <chorse> djk_, take your pick :)
[04:29] <phoul> .gba
[04:29] <lawrence> luisito, start with One Flat (http://nickm.com/cis/oneflat/)
[04:29] <djk_> chorse: i believe the hardest command is rtfm :p
[04:29] <fr500> mahangu: it's 01:29
[04:29] <fr500> am
[04:30] <Shady> Can anyone help me out.
[04:30] <masingerz> hello i need help
[04:30] <chorse> djk_, it depends. rtfm --force in violence mode is quite effective.
[04:30] <MarcN> phoul: you can also use "od your.file"   to dump the binary.  See man for options.
[04:30] <LOQUiLLO_> hi mazingerz
[04:30] <djk_> chorse: hehe
[04:30] <navarone> I'm not into hex...more a voodoo type myself...;)
[04:30] <luisito> lawrence, I'll check it.
[04:31] <lawrence> luisito, I was joking
[04:31] <mahangu> fr500, 7-11?
[04:31] <phoul> ahh
[04:31] <fr500> mahangu: what?
[04:31] <fr500> i mean, it's too late to go out now
[04:31] <mahangu> fr500, no all night stores that cell CDs
[04:31] <mahangu> ah right
[04:32] <Shady> Can anyone see me?! ack
[04:32] <djk_> no
[04:32] <jgw__> shady: yes
[04:32] <luisito> lawrence, sorry, if you say to me "start with pancakes" I'll do 'cause I don't know nothing about that programming world :P
[04:32] <jgw__> well, no
[04:32] <_jason> Shady, I can read what you type but I can't see you :D
[04:32] <Dreamer3> ok
[04:32] <Shady> right right
[04:32] <mcadory> fr500: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-797.html
[04:32] <Dreamer3> with no root how can i do a system-wide copy over ssh?
[04:32] <Madpilot> Dreamer3: sudo
[04:32] <Dreamer3> Madpilot: how would i use sudo remotely?
[04:33] <mulder> Dreamer3, sudo su
[04:33] <Dreamer3> Madpilot: i'm running rsync from the remote system
[04:33] <Shady> All right I just got linux and i've been fooling around with getting around with it. But ever time I try to get into a folder with "open" it says I don't have the permission...
[04:33] <luisito> there are too many options. it's kind of confuse what to choose
[04:33] <lawrence> luisito, One flat is a fake language created by one of my CS professors
[04:34] <morphix> having dual booted win xp with ubuntu.. in ubuntu i cant access my windows hdds (ntfs) cause the permissions are defaulted to 'root' being the owner of the hdds... so i cant look into the drives without being root.. how can i change the permissions so i can let my normal user account access those hdds?
[04:34] <Madpilot> Dreamer3: I've only used ssh in terminal, but sudo worked just fine - I used my account pw on that machine, and it worked fine
[04:34] <djk_> luisito: there are several thousand languages, pick whatever you want ;)
[04:34] <mustard5> Shady, as a user you would be limited to accessing your own HOME folder...
[04:34] <Dreamer3> Madpilot: i'm on the remote machine
[04:34] <luisito> lawrence, ok, I understand :)
[04:34] <Dreamer3> Madpilot: not the ubuntu box
[04:34] <mustard5> Shady, to access other areas requires that you do so as an administratory
[04:34] <Dreamer3> Madpilot: trying to copy files off the remote box
[04:34] <jgw__> luisito: maybe start off with something simple, like perl or python
[04:34] <jgw__> luisito: or even java
[04:35] <phoul> Okay im useing ghex how do i find normal text with it
[04:35] <Shady> OH! that makes sense.
[04:35] <lawrence> luisito, start w/ java or C/C++.  they have the most applicable syntax
[04:35] <mustard5> Shady, what would you like to do?
[04:35] <Shady> and I've never used IRC before either
[04:35] <mcadory> morphix: ntfs?
[04:35] <Shady> Just get around in my folders while using the console.
[04:35] <jgw__> the nice thing about java/perl/c/c++ is that they use similar syntax, so after learning one, you'd already jumped over several hurdles to learn the others
[04:35] <luisito> djk_, ok, I'll choose one of the options jgw__ said.
[04:35] <mustard5> Shady, ok..well in IRC its handy to type the name of the person you are talking to, so that they know who you are addressing
[04:35] <Madpilot> !cli
[04:35] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, cli is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[04:35] <MarcN> morphix: in /etc/fstab, try putting uid=1000,guid=1000 as the mount options (where those numbers are your uid/gid).  also set your mount point to be owned by you.
[04:36] <Madpilot> Shady: see ubotu above ^^^
[04:36] <mcadory> morphix: sorry, ntfs is read only.
[04:36] <Dreamer3> Madpilot: ok, just turning on root was the right thing to do in this case
[04:36] <MarcN> morphix: don't forget also 'ro' option
[04:36] <ordinary> ntfs = note the fing system?
[04:36] <Shady> mustard 5: Alright
[04:36] <mustard5> Shady, you can use the TAB key to autocomplete peoples names...type the first few letters of my nickname in then hit TAB and try it out
[04:36] <Shady> mustard5, hah, nifty.
[04:36] <chorse> ordinary, n00bish tainted f*cking shit.
[04:36] <mustard5> Shady, when you add my nickname to the start of your message it appears on my screen as red text
[04:37] <mustard5> chorse, watch the language plz
[04:37] <ordinary> lol
[04:37] <vladuz976> can someone tell me what initrd and mkinitrd is?
[04:37] <chorse> mustard5, sorry but that's ntfs :)
[04:37] <ordinary> the last five letters of mustard5's nick... tard 5 LOLOL
[04:37] <Shady> mustard5, excellent, so now 1 mystery is cleared up.
[04:37] <mustard5> ordinary, I'm glad your amused :)
[04:37] <djk_> Madpilot: i think i saw you adding a few things to ubotu, if so, please make sure that you don't accidentally punctuate http-links ;)
[04:38] <chorse> vladuz976, an initrd is a a filesystem containing kernel modules the system needs at boot time before e.g. the hdd filesystem is available
[04:38] <danipaez> does someone knows how to set up an advantek pci ethernet card ?
[04:38] <Madpilot> djk_: I don't think I have added puncutation like that, but it's easy to fix - you can do it yourself, or just ask here on the channel - someone will fix it
[04:38] <luisito> jgw__, just last question for me to be a little more clear. An application like GIMP can be made with any of those languages (perl, python or C)?
[04:38] <ordinary> wellchumm 2 intardnet :D:D:D:
[04:39] <Shady> mustard5, so how do I fix my permissions so I can do stuff in the console?
[04:39] <djk_> Madpilot: i just fixed about 40 ubotu entries ;)
[04:39] <jgw__> luisito: yes and no. you can make a GUI app with any of those languages, but only ones written with c/c++/or java will run well
[04:39] <mustard5> Shady, whats specifically would you like to do?
[04:39] <vladuz976> chorse: so how can i use mkinitrd ?
[04:39] <jgw__> luisito: those other languages arent really designed to write gui apps, although you can
[04:39] <Shady> mustard5, let's say get into my "my downloads" folder through the console
[04:39] <phoul> I cant find the damn string!
[04:40] <vladuz976> chorse: i'm just compiling a kernel
[04:40] <mustard5> Shady, on your windows partition?
[04:40] <Madpilot> djk_: excellent!
[04:40] <jgw__> luisito: if you want to write gui apps for KDE, learn C++, that's what they use. GNOME uses C and now youre starting to see some C# apps
[04:40] <jgw__> luisito: Java is also "good" for GUI apps
[04:40] <Shady> mustard5, linux
[04:40] <chorse> vladuz976, use kernel-package, it creates a .deb for you and you don't have to worry about that at all
[04:41] <phoul> I cant find it!
[04:41] <phoul> :(
[04:41] <phoul> I know its there
[04:41] <thrice`> Shady: sudo ls -dl /home/user
[04:41] <jgw__> luisito: since linux is open source, and community-based, there are more options than any one person can keep track of
[04:41] <mustard5> Shady, ah ok...so its in your $HOME folder?
[04:41] <thrice`> where user is your user
[04:41] <EdLin> lucasvo, it's possible to make simple apps, and even sometimes more complex ones, with python, perl, or tcl/tk - but they are scripting languages which has tradeoffs in development time and execution speed.
[04:41] <Shady> right
[04:41] <EdLin> s/simpe apps/simple GUI apps/
[04:41] <Shady> mustard5, right.
[04:41] <mustard5> Shady, ls lists directory contents...and cd is used to change directories
[04:41] <EdLin> s/simpe/simple
[04:41] <thrice`> Shady: run that and spit back what it says
[04:41] <luisito> jgw__, oooook, that helps me very much to understand and organize my head. Thank You All Very, Very Much.
[04:41] <EdLin> phoey
[04:42] <vladuz976> chorse: i wanted to learn how to do it
[04:42] <Shady> Desktop and My downloads
[04:42] <jgw__> luisito: np, good luck. just find something and jump in, anything you learn will help you if you decide to move onto something else later, so all wont be wasted
[04:42] <Shady> mustard5, my downloads and desktop.
[04:42] <phoul> Anyone
[04:42] <mustard5> Shady, well you can use the TAB key to autocomplete pathnames in terminal
[04:42] <chorse> vladuz976, in this case - read http://www.digitalhermit.com/linux/Kernel-Build-HOWTO.html
[04:42] <lawrence> luisito, Once you learn a couple languages, you'll be able to learn almost any language really quickly
[04:43] <jgw__> lawrence is right :)
[04:43] <chorse> just drop the lilo stuff in there
[04:43] <mustard5> Shady, it would be something like cd ~/Desktop to get to your Desktop   where ~/ is a shorthand method of specifying your home folder
[04:43] <phoul> God dammit whats a good hex editer!
[04:43] <phoul> I cant find it
[04:44] <navarone> ummm...Is Firefox 1.5 as easy to install as they are saying it is on website? Just extract to directory of your choice and execute the bin?
[04:44] <Shady> mustard5, ahhh the tilde! I must have forgot I'll test it real quick.
[04:44] <luisito> jgw__, lawrence, great! I'll jump!! let's see what can I do. :). It isn't too bored?
[04:44] <lawrence> navarone, yup
[04:44] <navarone> Have to uninstall first?
[04:44] <mustard5> ubotu: tell Shady about cli
[04:44] <navarone> other firefox i mean?
[04:44] <lawrence> navarone, Don't think so...
[04:44] <mustard5> check for a pm from ubotu Shady
[04:44] <jgw__> luisito: what do you mean "it isnt too bored?"?
[04:44] <phoul> Anyone?
[04:44] <phoul> I need a hex editer that work
[04:45] <navarone> ghex?
[04:45] <firestone> Is banshee in the repositories?
[04:45] <phoul> Im trying ghex
[04:45] <phoul> But the strings not there
[04:45] <phoul> The text string isnt there!
[04:45] <gracee> hi] 
[04:45] <phoul> But its there on my friends computor
[04:45] <phoul> Grrr
[04:45] <logical_mark> Hey guys, what is a good replacement for Macromedia Dreamweaver?
[04:45] <navarone> can't help ya there
[04:45] <mustard5> logical_mark, nvu is probably the best you will find in the repos
[04:45] <jgw__> logical: vim
[04:46] <luisito> jgw__, I mean, if it is too tedious to learn, thats what I really mean, sorry. :P
[04:46] <EdLin> logical_mark, nvu, screem
[04:46] <phoul> anyone?
[04:46] <logical_mark> mustard5: Getting a bit better with installing stuff that is not in the repos, so if you know of something let me in!
[04:46] <phoul> This is starting to anger me
[04:46] <phoul> ><
[04:46] <logical_mark> mustard5: Thanks!
[04:46] <theCore> logical_mark: like bluefish
[04:46] <jgw__> luisito: its tedious at times, but then, you just take a break to refresh yourself
[04:46] <mustard5> logical_mark, I don't actually :)  I just use nvu
[04:46] <Mabus06> howdy, mustard5
[04:46] <mustard5> hey Mabus06 how goes it buddy :)
[04:46] <chorse> logical_mark, i would say vi but you may like bluefish a little more
[04:46] <navarone> phoul google or visit freshmeat or sourceforge...may be a project there that meets your needs
[04:46] <lawrence> navarone, Just installed it...you can't have both running simultaneously, but you can ahve both installed
[04:46] <Shady> mustard5, thanks alot maybe I can figure some stuff out now....
[04:47] <Mabus06> mustard5, trying to set up a blootbot for one of the channells I frequent... having troubles
[04:47] <phoul> navarone, i dont understand why i cant find it in a hex editer
[04:47] <navarone> Okay tehn laurence...is the memory issue fixed?
[04:47] <mustard5> Mabus06, I don't even know what it is :)
[04:47] <logical_mark> theCore, chorse: Isn't bluefish used for CODING the website. I just need something that I can draw out tables and such and it writes the html in the background
[04:47] <Mabus06> mustard5, but you see one everyday! (ubotu)
[04:47] <mustard5> Mabus06, ah hehehe
[04:47] <mustard5> Mabus06, the bliss of ignorance ;)
[04:48] <luisito> jgw__, I think the results are an excellent pleasure to go in again. I like that kind of things.
[04:48] <navarone> phoul I hardly use a text editor..a hex editor is all Greek to me
[04:48] <logical_mark> mustard5: off the top of your head do you know of a webcam that is linux compatible?
[04:48] <theCore> logical_mark, then nvu would be the best
[04:48] <chorse> logical_mark, i don't know about any wysiwyg tools here, sorry.
[04:48] <jgw__> luisito: the only thing to do is to decide on what you want to learn and stick with it, taking breaks as needed
[04:48] <pepsi> how can i turn off sounds from gdm (startup and shutdown sounds)
[04:48] <phoul> GAH!
[04:48] <chorse> although i know that dreamweaver works well in wine
[04:48] <bob832> #ipcop
[04:48] <jgw__> luisito: i am utterly stupid, but even i have done kernel driver stuff
[04:48] <bob832> opps, my bad
[04:48] <Mabus06> mustard5, do you know much about connecting to IRC? therein lies the trouble with my bot for now
[04:49] <mustard5> logical_mark, I'll see if I can find something in the wiki
[04:49] <theCore> phoul: i think you really need to learn the zen principles
[04:49] <mustard5> Mabus06, ah ok..what options does it give you?
[04:49] <navarone> pepsi...try System preferences sound or Mukltimedia selector
[04:49] <phoul> Okay look my friends computor i found it on
[04:49] <navarone> Multimedia...ahem
[04:49] <phoul> And i cant find it on here
[04:49] <luisito> jgw__, that is a great thing. I like it. :)
[04:50] <pepsi> navarone, right.. that lets me shut off "sounds for events" or esd altogether, but i want those on, just not the startup sounds.. they arent listed in the events
[04:50] <mustard5> logical_mark, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras?highlight=%28webcam%29
[04:50] <mustard5> Mabus06, what do you have to specify to get it to connect?
[04:50] <luisito> jgw__, I'll google now to see what can I get...
[04:51] <logical_mark> mustard5: didn't know it was that easy. Thanks!
[04:51] <Mabus06> mustard5, I pmed it to you
[04:51] <theCore> phoul: `ghex' is a good hex editor
[04:51] <mustard5> ah ok.. looking now Mabus06
[04:51] <phoul> If i use ghex i cant find it
[04:51] <phoul> Its not in there
[04:51] <fr500> i'm using this method for a netinstall, now, is there a way for me to set it to fetch the files from my desktop computer that has the cd image?
[04:51] <phoul> Im looking for a text string
[04:51] <theCore> phoul: you need to add the universe ripo
[04:51] <_jason> phoul, have you considered the possibility it is actually not there?
[04:51] <phoul> Jason its there buddy
[04:51] <phoul> i found it at my friends house
[04:52] <phoul> hes looking at it right now
[04:52] <Nikusan> I've got libdvdcss2, I can watch DVDs fine in Ogle, but they won't open in VLC or Totem. Anyone know why?
[04:52] <luisito> Once again, thank tou all for the help. See ya later!!!
[04:52] <theCore> phoul, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#addinguniverse
[04:52] <jgw__> bye luisito
[04:53] <phoul> theCore, why?
[04:53] <navarone> Configuration EDitor/desktop/gnome/sound and uncheck any that are checked pepsi
[04:53] <navarone> Application/Config editor
[04:53] <theCore> phoul, so you have access to a tons of package for ubuntu
[04:54] <phoul> I have thos already open
[04:54] <phoul> At my friends house i found it in hex workshop
[04:54] <pepsi> navarone, i want esd though
[04:55] <jgw__> man coming back to linux is rough
[04:55] <theCore> phoul, okay then n/m
[04:55] <phoul> well
[04:55] <phoul> Gah!
[04:55] <phoul> How do i find it on nix!
[04:55] <jgw__> i know the base linux system inside and out, but now there's all this new technology and a new way of doing things (as i'm using ubuntu and not slackware)
[04:55] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, interesting quote i found "NVidia 7676 appears to be broken on breezy."
[04:56] <theCore> phoul, okay ... can you explain what is your problem exactly ?
[04:56] <phoul> Im looking for a text string
[04:56] <theCore> phoul, in ?
[04:56] <DaveRag> Hey can anyone help me I got a process going crazy from another user (sh script) but even when I reboot it's still working.. it changes PID really fast too
[04:56] <phoul> In goldensun.gba it was there at my friends house
[04:56] <phoul> not there here
[04:57] <theCore> phoul, please, can you stop talking about your friend ... it doesn't help me to solve YOUR problem
[04:58] <phoul> Dude i ment *i* found it at his house meaning it *is* there
[04:58] <phoul> The string isnt there
[04:58] <phoul> it was in hexworkshop
[04:58] <theCore> phoul, what string ?
[04:58] <phoul> A text string in a hex editer
[04:59] <phoul> The string should be i need
[04:59] <DaveRag> i got 2 processes like that always running and I don't know why (/bin/sh -c cat `find ${DEFAULT} -type f -follow`| wc -c from user web3_cmorin) how can I know why this runs all the time?
[04:59] <GTroy> anyone know how to change permission to delete a file?
[04:59] <theCore> phoul, for ?
[04:59] <theCore> phoul, explain ...
[04:59] <GTroy> chown -R ?
[04:59] <phoul> I open goldensun.gba with a hex editer
[04:59] <bimberi> GTroy: sudo rm <file>
[04:59] <jgw__> grtroy: sudo chown
[04:59] <jgw__> oh whoops, misread
[04:59] <GTroy> thanks guys
[04:59] <phoul> I look for a text string with the words I need in it
[04:59] <phoul> Its not there
[05:01] <_jason> GTroy, just use the sudo command before rm to delete stuff not owned by your user
[05:01] <freelove> im on ubuntu breezy.if i install kubuntu-desktop now, will i get kde 3.5?
[05:01] <pbransford> phoul, try different encodings... maybe the endian is reversed etc
[05:01] <phoul> ?
[05:01] <freelove> or the old version of kde?
[05:01] <phoul> huh
[05:01] <dr_willis> heh
[05:01] <dr_willis> hex editing gba roms eh?
[05:01] <slashx1896> Hey
[05:02] <debugged> hi all
[05:02] <phoul> Lol yeah
[05:02] <slashx1896> Can someone help me on how to mount my Webcam?
[05:02] <phoul> I wanan change some text and take a screenshot
[05:02] <pbransford> Hey
[05:02] <phoul> But I cant find the string!
[05:02] <dr_willis> its posibially all the text is compressed some how.
[05:02] <pbransford> phoul, it might be encoded somehow (think of a .pak file for a gameboy?)
[05:02] <theCore> phoul, you should ask that question on another channel , because it is *really* to ubuntu
[05:02] <m4v1s> has anyone used the partition tool included with the latest live cd?
[05:02] <slashx1896> Gnome Meeting  or w/e says i dont have a webcam plugged when i do,  guess i need to mount it
[05:03] <dr_willis> mount a web cam?
[05:03] <m4v1s> to resize partitions, id like to dual boot my laptop, without having to reinstall windows + all my other crap
[05:03] <slashx1896> yes
[05:03] <pu> do i need to read and understand linux completely before jumping into an ubuntu install?
[05:03] <slashx1896> or w/e i need to do so gnome meeting will recongnize my webcam
[05:04] <dr_willis> pu,  of course not. :P but its good to read up on the fundamentals..  you can always toy with a livecd for a few days
[05:04] <Fangz> pu: What do you know about linux?
[05:04] <ExDead> hello all
[05:04] <pu> i know that you have to configure things for yourself
[05:05] <Fangz> pu: Well, not neccessarily
[05:05] <pu> for example, i found some sites explaining how to configure wireless for my laptop
[05:05] <slashx1896> pu: i didnt know really anything about linux and i got ubuntu installed, and im workin my way through it and asking questions here
[05:05] <ExDead> i need help with burn CDs
[05:05] <pu> but i didn't really understand it
[05:05] <Fangz> pu: Hmm
[05:05] <pu> cool.
[05:05] <dr_willis> wireless is  confusing under windoes even. :P
[05:05] <slashx1896> exdead: data or audio?
[05:05] <ExDead> all
[05:05] <RobNyc> Whats wrong why I cant mount my reiser4 partition ?
[05:05] <slashx1896> exdead: try serpentine cd burner
[05:06] <pu> let me find that link; i think it said i needed the windows driver.. and then use a wrapper
[05:06] <dr_willis> pu,  ndiswrapper
[05:06] <ExDead> i have instaled nerolinux and tellme abaut a problem with a "DMA"
[05:06] <slashx1896> serpentine
[05:06] <Fangz> pu: If you can guarantee that you will have the internet after installing ubuntu, then you are fine
[05:06] <fr500> has anyone used matchbox on ubuntu?
[05:06] <dr_willis> ExDead,  enable dma for the cdrom drive.
[05:06] <slashx1896> exdead: oh, i never used nerolinux
[05:06] <dr_willis> fr500,  yes i have.
[05:06] <debugged> hi all..
[05:06] <pu> i thought that also Fangz, but i don't know how to get wireless working
[05:06] <ExDead> but how
[05:06] <Fangz> pu: Because community support with linux based systems is very extensive
[05:06] <ExDead> i a new in this of linux
[05:06] <dr_willis> fr500,  its an interesting window manager.. but a real pain in ways
[05:06] <Fangz> pu: What's your card?
[05:07] <debugged> is ubuntu can be installed KDE h
[05:07] <bimberi> ExDead: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[05:07] <ChrisC_> Can anyone think of why glxgears would not be producing the framerate info on the terminal? (gears window opened and turning, just no FPS data)
[05:07] <Fangz> debugged: See Kubuntu
[05:07] <slashx1896> So can anyone here help me with mounting my webcam or w/e i have to do to get gnome meeting to recognize it
[05:07] <pu> netgear wg111?
[05:07] <fr500> dr_willis: but for instance for an "embedded" system (or something alike) it works right?
[05:07] <dr_willis> ExDead,  from what i hear k3b  beats the nerolinux program in  most ways
[05:07] <bimberi> dr_willis: ha, np ;)
[05:07] <pu> ma521 will work as well.
[05:07] <pu> i have both.
[05:07] <thread> Anyone have any thoughts why quake3 would die with "...loading libGL.so.1: Segmentation fault" when other opengl apps work fine? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=541218
[05:07] <dr_willis> fr500,  it works fine. its just a little weird in some ways. :P if ya want a real light window manager ya may want to try wmii
[05:08] <coz> hello all
[05:08] <slashx1896> i just use Serpentine for burning my cds, but i dunno
[05:08] <coz> does anyone here use wacom tablet?
[05:08] <dr_willis> fr500,  i had issues with matchbox and a few programs.. but nothing real major.
[05:08] <fr500> kk
[05:08] <ExDead> yes i have  k3b but dont work because the  DMA problem
[05:08] <pu> i just like the idea of having complete control over my system
[05:08] <pu> lol, but i can't control it
[05:09] <Fangz> pu: 811b or g?
[05:09] <slashx1896> guess no ne here knows how to fix me webcam, il just try back here later
[05:09] <slashx1896> my*
[05:09] <h> how do I compile unloading support into kernel?
[05:09] <dr_willis> slashx1896,  my webcam crashes the system whenever i try tio access it :P
[05:09] <pu> wg111 is g, ma521 is b
[05:09] <edwin> t
[05:09] <slashx1896> well....
[05:09] <pu> i found a good tutorial - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81461
[05:10] <slashx1896> i dunno, i just wanna get gnome meeting to recognize it
[05:10] <pu> just now
[05:10] <pu> is it that easy? if i follow those directions?
[05:10] <dr_willis> wireless is getting better supported all the time.
[05:10] <bimberi> pu: check your cards here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[05:10] <slashx1896> im already having problems with my ipod, my computer recognizes it, its mounted but GTKpod wont reconginzie my ipod so i got 2 problems atm
[05:10] <dr_willis> it pays to know the fundamentlas of how a wireless network works -  so you are noit getting bombarded with all these odd terms.
[05:10] <ExDead> thanks to you bimberi, the page help me
[05:11] <bimberi> ExDead: np :)
[05:11] <ExDead> bye all
[05:11] <ExDead> and thanks again
[05:12] <m4v1s> when i install ubuntu it will allow me to resize a current partition, correct?
[05:12] <pu> hmm.. for my ma521, it reads "briefly worked in breezy.. lots of problems"
[05:12] <jgrieves> no you have to use something else, currently that is not supported\
[05:13] <slashx1896> ugh :\ well il come back later tomrow and see if anyone here can fix my ipod and webcam cya all, if someone finds out how to fix it and has aim add me (screen name = irc name)
[05:13] <jgrieves> ubuntu live cd has a partition resizer
[05:13] <bimberi> m4v1s: yes - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/installation/Partitioning
[05:13] <Razor-X> any LaTeX users here that have experience with tabular and tabular* ?
[05:13] <jgrieves> bimberi is this new?
[05:14] <bimberi> jgrieves: no, since hoary at least
[05:14] <pu> any people here using ubuntu as a mythtv box?
[05:14] <nixen> n iwconfig determine encryption type (WEP, WPA etc)?
[05:14] <nixen> Can...
[05:14] <jgrieves> but you can't resize it?
[05:15] <m4v1s> thats what i thought, just making sure...thank you bimberi
[05:15] <DaveRag> I got a process from user 10006 going crazy here, it's a script and I don't know why it runs
[05:15] <jgrieves> bimberi where does it talk about resiazing
[05:15] <Razor-X> nixen: I know iwconfig can work with wep, and with an extension, WPA
[05:15] <jgrieves> oh there
[05:15] <fangorious> when I try to play a video, plain mpeg I think, totem tells me the video source is in use by another application. but the only other open app is firefox (and now xchat)
[05:15] <jgrieves> intersting
[05:15] <bimberi> jgrieves: "Select the partition that you want to resize. Hit enter."
[05:15] <Fangz> pu: The best place to consult is the http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[05:15] <Fangz> https://wiki.ubuntu.com//SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[05:16] <nixen> Razor-X, I'm connected to the wireless network. I just don't know if I'm connected trough WEP WPA or something else. Is there a way to check?
[05:16] <Fangz> and http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu
[05:16] <bimberi> jgrieves: oh, you found it :P
[05:16] <jgrieves> bimberi thanks misspeslled resize
[05:16] <Mabus06> who owns ubotu
[05:16] <jgrieves> bimberi wow its getting late, i've ben debugging make files too late
[05:16] <Razor-X> nixen: can you use the network functions just fine?
[05:16] <jgrieves> bimberi thanks for correcting me, i didn't notice that o nmy installs
[05:16] <nixen> Razor-X, yep.
[05:16] <Razor-X> nixen: and also, how did you connect to said network?
[05:16] <bimberi> jgrieves: neither did i, until i saw the wiki page :)
[05:17] <pu> thank you Fangz, very helpful
[05:17] <nixen> Razor-X, I used the network utility. Isn't there iwconfig tool or something that can tell me current encyrption type?
[05:17] <Razor-X> (I never followed the Ubuntu wiki entry with ndiswrapper, so I had to probe the man pages meself, without an internet connection :( )
[05:17] <Razor-X> nixen: try it, simply type in ``iwconfig'' in a terminal
[05:17] <thread> Anyone have any thoughts why quake3 would die with "...loading libGL.so.1: Segmentation fault" when other opengl apps work fine? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=541218
[05:18] <Fangz> pu: If it is your first time with linux, I strongly suggest you do a windows dual boot
[05:18] <fangorious> is there some incompatibility between fglrx and the default "XWindows (X11/XShm/Xv) video output sink?
[05:18] <nixen> Razor-X, I tried that already. I can't see encryption type specifyed in the output.
[05:18] <Razor-X> nixen: ah, unless you specified a WEP or WPA passphrase somewhere, chances are you're unencrypted
[05:18] <dr_willis> fangorious,  not that i have seen
[05:18] <Mr_Milenko> just wait for the OpenQuake builds to come out
[05:19] <pu> Fangz, what if i have another computer with windows already running
[05:19] <Mr_Milenko> alot of people are removing the OpenGL bit and one guys trying SDL
[05:19] <nixen> Razor-X, Its not possible to joing this network without some encyrption.
[05:19] <dr_willis> fangorious,  i play/watch videos all the time on my ati system
[05:19] <Razor-X> I connect using simply ``sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid foo'' to connect to network ``foo'', or I use the SSID ``any'' for connecting to whatever's nearby
[05:19] <Razor-X> nixen: ... and yet you're connected without providing a passphrase of any sort? that's not really possible, if you can use the functions of the network fine
[05:19] <fangorious> dr_willis: any thoughts on why playing an mpeg in totem would give me an error message that "The video output is in use by another application. Please close other video applications, or select another video output in the Multimedia Systems Selector."
[05:19] <Fangz> Well, if you have some means of transferring files between them, then fine
[05:20] <Fangz> e.g. an usb thumbdrive or somesuch
[05:20] <fangorious> dr_willis: with only firefox and x-chat being the other apps running
[05:20] <nixen> Razor-X, I used passphrase to joing the wifi.
[05:20] <dr_willis> fangorious,  some video player may of crashe3d  and dident release some lock perhaps.
[05:20] <nixen> Razor-X, is WPA2 backwards compatible with WEP?
[05:20] <Razor-X> nixen: well, then, you're probably on wep, try pasting the output of ``cat /etc/network/interfaces'' for me
[05:21] <Razor-X> nixen: they're different protocols, I don't think so, as far as I know, but most routers come equipped with both, since WEP is simpler
[05:21] <nixen> Razor-X, I can't be. WPA2 isn't WEP compatible,
[05:21] <ChrisC_> Can anyone think of why glxgears would not be producing the framerate info on the terminal? (gears window opened and turning, just no FPS data)
[05:21] <fangorious> the only other video app I've used on this installation is flash in web pages. I don't think i've ever been able to play a video on this install.
[05:21] <Razor-X> nixen: ... odd..., you're using WPA
[05:21] <dr_willis> ChrisC_,  beausew the glxgears guy got mad I think
[05:21] <Razor-X> nixen: put ``cat /etc/network/interfaces'' in pastebin
[05:22] <dr_willis> ChrisC_,  i hear theres the insane option -iagreethisisnotabenchmark
[05:22] <Razor-X> Fangz: meh
[05:22] <Razor-X> I don't know... I don't trust ndiswrapper
[05:22] <Razor-X> but I did compile it, for what that's worth
[05:22] <nixen> Razor-X, I'll paste only relecant part... here we go
[05:22] <ChrisC_> googling now, you're right ...
[05:22] <dr_willis> or similer.. but ive never managed to get it to show the fps.. been tempted to just find the code and re3complie it back to normal
[05:22] <Fangz> I'm using a native beta driver
[05:23] <dr_willis> ChrisC_,  makes ya want to smack the guy.
[05:23] <fangorious> dr_willis: hrm, switching to "XWindows (No Xv)" lets me play the video, but it looks awful
[05:23] <Razor-X> I'm using one of those shitty USB sticks
[05:23] <Razor-X> ugggh :(
[05:23] <Razor-X> 'least hotplug and ndiswrapper and iwconfig/ifconfig can all get along well
[05:23] <Razor-X> well, my parents are doing a good job restricting my internet, anyhow :P
[05:23] <john_> Can anyone help me set up my microphone?
[05:24] <john_> I can't get sound recorder to record
[05:24] <ChrisC_> undocumented CLI attribute now required:  glxgears -printfps
[05:24] <Fangz> Razor-X: Do they know how to use GNU/Linux?
[05:24] <ChrisC_> bastid
[05:24] <nixen> Razor-X, iface eth1 inet dhcp
[05:24] <nixen> wireless-essid A233R5
[05:24] <nixen> wireless-key s:B607CDE7DBE43242167A1CFDE366927E1BA817B0901CF4EE979D31CB4D0A3C11
[05:24] <nixen> auto eth1
[05:24] <Razor-X> Fangz: no
[05:24] <Razor-X> nixen: in pastebin
[05:24] <nixen> Raskall, oops.
[05:24] <rendi> The installer was unable to detect MySQL support in PHP. Please ask your host to ensure that PHP was compiled with MySQL, or that the proper extension is being loaded.
[05:24] <rendi> can help me Sir ?
[05:24] <Fangz> Razor-X: Then they have no power over you.
[05:24] <Razor-X> Fangz: they do if they control my physical interface to the internet :P
[05:24] <fangorious> dr_wilis: the quality may have just been that one clip, some other ones don't look so horrible. guess i'll file a bug report.
[05:25] <nixen> Razor-X, that password is too long for WEP I think.
[05:25] <john_> I really need some help setting up my mic volume, i can't get it if my life depended on it
[05:25] <Razor-X> nixen: hmmm, yeah, I think so too, a bit of googling can clear that up though
[05:26] <nixen> Razor-X, I have no idea what to google for.
[05:27] <sunnzy2> Does anyone know how to install Chinese input?
[05:28] <sunnzy2> Or if there is a Chinese channel that I can ask people?
[05:28] <rebort> does anyone have insight on http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16479 Z
[05:28] <insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark, hey if your still i found something interesting
[05:28] <Razor-X> sunnzy2: I can help a *little* bit with that, only because I have some experience getting Japanese working
[05:28] <Razor-X> sunnzy2: but, there should be a chinese Ubuntu help chanel
[05:28] <levander> Anybody can tell me what this abi file is that upgrading to breezy put in my /boot directory?
[05:28] <sunnzy2> Razor-X, well, I have installed scim and scim-chinese.
[05:28] <walkingice> subterrific:  you can join #ununtu-tw
[05:28] <sunnzy2> But I don't know what to do now...
[05:29] <walkingice> subterrific:  sorry...wrong
[05:29] <walkingice> sunnzy2: :  you can join #ununtu-tw
[05:29] <Fangz> Sigh. Things I miss with ubuntu - That feeling of *power* when I do 'su'
[05:29] <humboldt> Are there any kernel updates available for ubuntu newer than 2.6.12-10?? Something like 2.6.14??
[05:29] <humboldt> 2.6.12 swsusp does not work for me
[05:29] <levander> Fangz: that's one of the dumbest things i've heard in a while...
[05:29] <humboldt> and reboot does not work either
[05:29] <Razor-X> Fangz: yeah, that took me a while to wean off as well :P
[05:30] <atrolinux> Is there an ftp server included in ubuntu's standard install?  If not, what's a good one that's supported by ubuntu?
[05:30] <nixen> I'm trying to install ethereal and apt-get install ethereal gives me an error message that it can't find the package. Any suggestions?
[05:30] <levander> humboldt: why do you care about a kernel update like that?  i just upgraded today and got 2.6.12-10, so i don't think there is
[05:30] <john_> This is exteremely weird
[05:30] <Fangz> levander: bah
[05:30] <atrolinux> nixen, enable a repository that has the package
[05:30] <Madpilot> humboldt: no - 2.6.<higher number> will be released w/ Dapper
[05:30] <Hobbsee> humboldt: try http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17615
[05:30] <chorse> atrolinux, i like vsftpd - The Very Secure FTP Daemon
[05:30] <nixen> atrolinux, what?
[05:30] <Hobbsee> humboldt: for the reboot problem
[05:30] <pu> thanks for the help everyone; i'll be back later tonight
[05:31] <atrolinux> nixen, enable more repositories in synaptic, or manually add one if you know a repository that has the package
[05:31] <atrolinux> thanks chorse
[05:31] <levander> Fangz: sudo -s will give you this same feeling of power over life if you really need it
[05:31] <Hobbsee> !info ethereal
[05:31] <ubotu> ethereal: (network traffic analyzer), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.10.12-2ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 485 kB, Installed size: 1312 kB
[05:31] <humboldt> Hobbsee: so any dapper kernels out there yet?
[05:31] <Razor-X> I do find sudo more convenient now, IMO
[05:31] <Hobbsee> humboldt: got no idea, but that's something to try for your reboot problem
[05:31] <Razor-X> of course, I could've added a root account, but whatever
[05:31] <chorse> nixen, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the # in the deb univesial line and do an apt-get update
[05:32] <nixen> ya, got that.
[05:32] <Hobbsee> !tell nixen about repos
[05:32] <levander> Razor-X: sudo is infinitely more convenient in my opinion, no having to be like 'oh yeah, i gotta switch in/out of su right now!!'
[05:32] <nixen> no need.
[05:32] <Fangz> levander: su is shorter.
[05:32] <Razor-X> levander: exactly, it used to get annoying constantly logging in and out
[05:32] <nixen> ty
[05:32] <Razor-X> levander: only thing is, for a while, it became muscle memory
[05:32] <Hobbsee> Fangz: by all of 2 letters...
[05:32] <Fangz> 50%!
[05:32] <levander> Fangz: do you know what bash aliases are?  but those three extra characters will not effect your life, i promise
[05:32] <Razor-X> Hobbsee: technically by 3 characters, since you're prepending a ``sudo ''
[05:32] <Razor-X> :)
[05:33] <nixen> Razor-X, I'm going to sniff this connection. I'm hoping that would tell me what encr. is used.
[05:33] <Hobbsee> ah yes, the space at the end...
[05:33] <Razor-X> plus, for multiple commands in the interface, you either do ``sudo -i'' which is 7 characters long, or keep entering commands, which is *more* ineffecient
[05:33] <levander> Razor-X: for me, it was also like having to switch between insert and edit mode in vi, it was just a mental glitch you had to stop and remember to do occasionally
[05:33] <Razor-X> :)
[05:33] <jgrieves> who likes debugigng make files
[05:33] <Razor-X> nixen: that should do it, especially if your packetmon can auto-identify the WEP/WPA packets
[05:33] <Razor-X> jgrieves: not me
[05:34] <Razor-X> :)
[05:34] <jgrieves> Razor-X drat!
[05:34] <jgrieves>  :)
[05:34] <atrolinux> are there any ftp servers in the universe/multiverse?
[05:34] <Razor-X> levander: yeah, I was thinking of making an alias of ``sudo -s'' to ``su'', pretty fun that
[05:34] <levander> atrolinux: you've tried 'apt-cache search ftp'?
[05:34] <Razor-X> any LaTeX users here?
[05:34] <nixen> Razor-X, strangley enough I get no captured packets. I guess my card isn't supported.
[05:34] <Razor-X> nixen: aaah :(
[05:35] <levander> Razor-X: i'd see a psychiatrist and ask if that meets the requirements for an OCD diagnosis, the medicines they dispense have saved lives
[05:35] <Razor-X> most Linux-native drivers are supported by most packed monitors
[05:35] <atrolinux> levander, indeed, and it appears that everything with ftp in it is installed.  Also, i have repositories enabled that aren't multiverse/universe and I'm trying to stick to something supported if possible.
[05:35] <Razor-X> levander: :P
[05:35] <Razor-X> levander: mind me, I'm simply an impetuous youth *makes an innocent face*
[05:35] <levander> atrolinux: so, you want something *not* in universe/multiverse?
[05:36] <Razor-X> gah, I want to make flash-cards in LaTeX....
[05:36] <atrolinux> levander, no, I want something in it.  I just haven't noticed anything suitable that is in it.  Just asking if there is something.
[05:37] <levander> atrolinux: universe/multiverse are not supported, do you want something supported, or something not supported?
[05:37] <levander> atrolinux: the only reason you'd want something supported is if you have something commercial that people's livelihoods depend upon
[05:37] <atrolinux> levander, as supported as possible ;)
[05:37] <levander> atrolinux: then you don't want universe/multiverse
[05:37] <atrolinux> levander, I don't have a problem using something not supported, it just seems like a good idea to avoid it if I can, no?
[05:38] <levander> atrolinux: it doesn't really matter, there is a slight advantage in that ubuntu recommends things and so they'll do things like configure them better by default, maybe integrate them more into other things
[05:39] <levander> atrolinux: if i don't like one of the 'official ubuntu recommended apps' i don't hesitate not to use it
[05:39] <colombian> hi
[05:39] <debugged> test
[05:39] <levander> atrolinux: like i use grip instead of sound-juicer
[05:39] <koharski> hi
[05:39] <Razor-X> levander: what're those for?
[05:39] <koharski> so I just installed ubuntu
[05:39] <koharski> and fluxbox
[05:39] <atrolinux> levander, right.  Is there a supported ftp server then?  If not, is there one in universe/multiverse?  What's a good ftp server elsewhere?   ... yeah, I use grip instead too
[05:40] <levander> Razor-X: ripping CD's to oggs
[05:40] <Razor-X> levander: ah
[05:40] <atrolinux> or mp3s, if you're so inclined
[05:40] <Mabus06> anyone here knowledged in how connecting to irc works? (no, not how to open up xchat and connect... how it works)
[05:40] <Mabus06> I need help with something
[05:41] <nixen> 104 bits == WPA?
[05:41] <atrolinux> Mabus06, open up mIRC and connect? (just kidding, I dunno how to help)
[05:41] <nixen> :(
[05:41] <Razor-X> levander: I use a cd app to play them to stdout, and use flac to take stdin and play it into a FLAC file
[05:41] <Razor-X> levander: of course, I have to repeat this for every track, but, it works
[05:41] <levander> atrolinux: i'm looking
[05:41] <koharski> how do I get a fluxbox menu? Right now I just have an empty one with exit and xterm in it. Maybe I can just import my GNOME menu and edit out gnome things?
[05:41] <Razor-X> levander: although, I'm thinking of trying a WAV player, if it can play a CD track (haven't experimented there yet)
[05:41] <Coweater> Mabus06: what with? it's mostly covered in the rfcs
[05:41] <chorse> Mabus06, the irc protocol is specified in RFC1459
[05:42] <Fangz> koharski: I think fluxbox has its own menu format
[05:42] <Mabus06> whoa, noob it down for me guys
[05:42] <levander> Razor-X: grip automates the naming of the output files for me in a format i specify, and takes information out of cddb to name them
[05:42] <Fangz> There is a way of autogenerating, though
[05:42] <levander> atrolinux: i'm looking, sec
[05:42] <Hobbsee> koharski: you may want to check out #fluxbox
[05:42] <Fangz> So you probably wanna run that
[05:42] <PokerFacePenguin> Mabus06: you mean IRC commands?
[05:42] <Mabus06> basically I'm trying to get a bot to connect (to another server, don't worry) and one of the config files asks for the irchost and I don't know what to put
[05:42] <koharski> so how can I generate a fluxbox menu just plain old debian way?
[05:42] <Mabus06> No, not irc.freenode.net etc
[05:42] <koharski> like, a termonal command
[05:42] <Mabus06> That's the server it connects to. The host is something else.
[05:42] <Razor-X> levander: I guess that works
[05:43] <Mabus06> By default it is 0.0.0.0, but that does not work.
[05:43] <PokerFacePenguin> Mabus06: that is your default route
[05:43] <Razor-X> oh wow, seems sox can play CD
[05:44] <Fangz> koharski: Run fluxbox-generate_menu
[05:44] <Razor-X> maybe I'll write a script to convert every track on a CD to a FLAC....
[05:44] <PokerFacePenguin> Mabus06: i believe it is asking for your IRC server......such as irc.freenode.net
[05:44] <koharski> thank you
[05:44] <Fangz> Then, if you want to manually edit, locate the menu config file in ~/.fluxbox
[05:44] <koharski> bash: fluxbox-generate_menu: command not found
[05:44] <koharski> hmmm
[05:45] <Fangz> Try variations?
[05:45] <david> Totem could not play 'file:///mnt/The Family Guy/Family.Guy.S05E01.PDTV.XviD-TV.avi'.         There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins                     how can i play this file?its a movie???
[05:45] <Mabus06> PokerFacePenguin, no... as I said that's in another part of the config
[05:45] <foampeac1> hi
[05:45] <PokerFacePenguin> Mabus06: did you try your own ip?
[05:45] <Mabus06> PokerFacePenguin, this is related to how the bot connects
[05:46] <humboldt> Did all features which were added to breezy kernel 2.6.12 make it into the official 2.6.14 kernel?
[05:46] <Mabus06> as in, through my own networking stuffs
[05:46] <david> w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb dats the codecs i have downloaded
[05:46] <foampeac1> HOW do i run an app as root from my desktop?
[05:46] <foampeac1> with an icon
[05:46] <Mabus06> PokerFacePenguin, yes
[05:46] <jrattner1> What program is the easiest, for ADDING and REMOVING files on your ipod?
[05:47] <PokerFacePenguin> Mabus06: internal and external?
[05:47] <Mabus06> PokerFacePenguin, yup, I think.
[05:47] <thread> jrattner1: check out banshee !
[05:47] <B_166-ER-X> is there a way to put a worspace selector ON the desktop ?
[05:47] <jrattner1> thread, thats what im working with, but it crashes every time i start it
[05:47] <levander> atrolinux: vsftpd is in main (i think), but i've never heard of it before.  one quick thing, you've considered just using openssh, and making people sftp into your site?
[05:47] <foampeac1> jrattner1: amarok? i dont know
[05:47] <thread> jrattner1: you could try killing all your settings
[05:48] <jrattner1> AMarok crashes during the file transfer
[05:48] <bimberi> foampeac1: create a launcher and put "gksudo " at the start of the command
[05:48] <thread> jrattner1: um not quite sure how that's done, though
[05:48] <foampeac1> bimberi: thanks
[05:48] <bimberi> foampeac1: np :)
[05:48] <atrolinux> levander, it's a laptop, the ftp server is just for easily tranferring files.  security is not a primary concern.  vsftpd was recommended before, but I am not seeing that in main
[05:50] <levander> atrolinux: you'll need sshd for connecting remotely to the box anyway, it's not a question of security really, it's just that ssh is more and more of a common way to communicate remotely with UNIX boxes
[05:52] <corndog> thats odd
[05:52] <corndog> i didnt choose a channe;
[05:52] <corndog> channel*
[05:52] <alekz> how can i see my partitions via terminal ?
[05:52] <PokerFacePenguin> alekz: mount
[05:53] <Agrajag> that only shows the partitions that are mounted
[05:53] <PokerFacePenguin> alekz: or parted
[05:53] <alekz> thanks
[05:53] <bimberi> corndog: did you use "Ubuntu Servers" in xchat? - it autojoins #ubuntu :)
[05:53] <corndog> i must have
[05:53] <PokerFacePenguin> alekz: careful with parted :)
[05:53] <levander> alekz: 'fdisk -l <device file name>'
[05:53] <corndog> is this k/ubuntu n00b paradise?
[05:54] <levander> alekz: 'parted print <device file name' will show you the partitions
[05:54] <corndog> cause thats where i need to be   :)
[05:54] <levander> corndog: yes
[05:54] <atrolinux> levander, but the ftp is for connecting to friend's winblows boxes... actually them connecting to mine.  openssh is installed and used, it just won't be for the ftp server
[05:54] <corndog> lovely
[05:55] <levander> atrolinux: what ftp client are you going to have your friends using?
[05:55] <levander> atrolinux: most ftp clients support secure-ftp which is I think all you need for it to talk to openssh-server and transfer files
[05:55] <levander> i think
[05:56] <jbroome> filezilla for windows will talk ftp and sftp/scp
[05:56] <corndog> i am using breezy 5.10. and i plugged in my hd from my old pc (xp). anything i can do to access it?
[05:57] <levander> atrolinux: only problem is i don't think the standard command line xp utility 'ftp' does support sftp, but i could be wrong
[05:57] <blanky> hey guys guess who's back, back again
[05:57] <blanky> blanky's back, tell a friend
[05:57] <blanky> man i hate that song
[05:57] <levander> corndog: what file system is on the xp drive?
[05:57] <corndog> better than havin your name be michael bolton   ;)
[05:57] <corndog> im pretty sure i formatted it ntfs
[05:58] <PokerFacePenguin> has anyone here ever updated a distro remotely over ssh?
[05:58] <levander> !tell corndog ntfs
[05:58] <PokerFacePenguin> er upgraded
[05:58] <corndog> eh?
[05:58] <sophie_> hello all I have a serious with gam_server and i<m not even running gnome
[05:59] <levander> corndog: go to wiki.ubuntu.com and search for ntfs
[05:59] <sophie_> its using like 90% of my system ram and 40& cpu
[05:59] <Hobbsee> !tell corndog about ntfs
[05:59] <atrolinux> levander, either the cli ftp, or IE's horrendous ftp client.  They're not very tech savvy friends.
[05:59] <sophie_> im not even using ntfs
[05:59] <corndog> thanks lev, i appreciate any help i get
[05:59] <levander> corndog: that message ubotu just sent you gives you the link i was telling you to find
[06:00] <levander> sophie_: neither am i
[06:00] <Shady> Does anyone know how to get mp3's to play in rhythm box? I would research this but I have homework to do.
[06:00] <alekz> how can i listen mp3 files on ubuntu ?
[06:00] <alekz> ubotu, search mp3
[06:00] <ubotu> alekz: I give up, what is it?
[06:00] <Hobbsee> !mp3
[06:00] <bimberi> ubotu tell shady about mp3
[06:00] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:00] <RobNyc> i cannot play mp3s i just downloaded on apollon .. with neither amarok, xmms, or kaffeine why
[06:00] <bimberi> ubotu tell alekz about mp3
[06:00] <levander> you can, but you have to get your sound card working, it's been a long time since i tried, and i don't know how difficult it is
[06:00] <alekz> thanks
[06:00] <sophie_> !tell sophie about ntfs
[06:01] <Hobbsee> !tell RobNyc about mp3
[06:01] <bimberi> ubotu tell RobNyc  about mp3
[06:01] <RobNyc> ty Hobbsee bimberi
[06:01] <Shady> is ubotu a search engine or something?
[06:01] <Hobbsee> !tell Shady about yourself
[06:01] <atrolinux> Shady, it has answers to commonly asked questions
[06:01] <dougsk> sophie, I ran into that once before under hoary but I've not noticed it under breezy.  killing gamin seemed to take care of it (it would restart)
[06:02] <XRange> when did "Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)" get broke
[06:02] <sophie_> dougsk: Ive killed it but where does it get started
[06:02] <Shady> atrolinux, I'm so amused by this.
[06:02] <ClayG> y
[06:02] <dougsk> sophie_, not sure tbh, will take a look and see
[06:02] <levander> sophie_: for gam_server problem, type 'killall gam_server'
[06:02] <atrolinux> Shady, by what exactly? ubotu?
[06:02] <levander> sophie_: oh sorry, didn't see you'd been told
[06:03] <sophie_> levander: done that and it works but im not moutning any ntfs partition where does it get started
[06:03] <levander> sophie_: where does what get started?
[06:03] <levander> sophie_: the ntfs comments weren't for you, they were for someone else
[06:04] <levander> sophie_: not sure where gam_server gets started, there must just be another daemon in gnome somewhere that keeps it running
[06:04] <levander> sophie_: not sure it matters
[06:04] <humboldt> Is it relativly unproblematic or insane to install the dapper kernel 2.6.15 in breezy. I read some problems might occure since kernel interface apis for usb ... have changed?!
[06:04] <sophie_> levander: Im not even running gnome or gnome apps
[06:05] <Mabus06> humboldt, unless you need dapper for something specific, stick with the stable version till dapper is actually released
[06:05] <corndog> can iswear in here lev?
[06:05] <RobNyc> so Hobbsee bimberi what do i use to play music?
[06:05] <RobNyc> i can use amarok ?
[06:05] <Mabus06> ubotu, tell corndog about coc
[06:05] <levander> sophie_: on the last line in the output of this command, what are the first two characters?  command: 'dpkg -l ubuntu-desktop'
[06:06] <humboldt> Mabus06: Well, my swsusp simply does not work at least it did not with 2.6.12-9
[06:06] <humboldt> A laptop without that features somehow sucks
[06:06] <Hobbsee> RobNyc: you can use amarok, yes
[06:06] <bimberi> RobNyc: sure, i use rhythmbox myself, but there's a lot of players available
[06:07] <sophie_> levander: No pa...
[06:08] <sophie_> levander: I,m running kubuntu
[06:08] <levander> sophie_: what is 'No pa...'?
[06:08] <sophie_> sorry for the gnome purist here
[06:08] <ExDead> hello all
[06:08] <Razor-X> any LaTeX users here?
[06:08] <sophie_> levander: no package of that name
[06:08] <sophie_> Razor-X: Yeah I pratice safe sex
[06:08] <ExDead> help with burn CDs
[06:08] <Razor-X> sophie_: ........
[06:08] <_jason> Razor-X, yes
[06:09] <corndog> lev that tutorial was awesome. thank you so much. that would have taken me three hours to find that
[06:09] <Razor-X> sophie_: err, ahh, Lamport TeX, TeX as in typesetting program
[06:09] <Razor-X> _jason: great, can you help me smooth some stuff out with tabular?
[06:09] <sophie_> Razor-X: I know I was just screwing around
[06:09] <Razor-X> sophie_: :P
[06:10] <snausages> can anyone tell me how i can stop xmms from flashing in the taskbar? i read the forums, and tried what was suggested, but it still does it.
[06:10] <_jason> Razor-X, heh sorry Razor-X I have only used the tabular env for very simple stuff and I'm currently working on something. There is probably a tex channel you can try
[06:10] <levander> sophie_: i just looked, gam_server is part of the gamin package.  I'd ask on #kubuntu if KDE is somehow using gam_server, if not 'sudo apt-get remove --purge gamin'
[06:10] <sophie_> levander: should I install ubunut-desktop would that help
[06:10] <Razor-X> _jason: there is
[06:10] <Razor-X> _jason: but, no-one's responding.... :)
[06:10] <sophie_> levander: YEah but I went on kubuntu and no support its pretty dead noe
[06:10] <sophie_> levander: YEah but I went on kubuntu and no support its pretty dead now
[06:11] <Razor-X> _jason: can you specify a specific column/row width/height respectively?
[06:11] <levander> sophie_: you misspelled ubuntu-desktop then if you got 'no package by that name'
[06:11] <levander> sophie_: 'dpkg -l ubuntu-desktop'
[06:11] <Razor-X> I want to make Japanese flash cards for my self-Japanese study (another hurdle will be mule), but I want to divide my letter paper up into 6 parts to make a flash card from each
[06:12] <sophie_> sophie_: levander yep in irc I misspelled but when I paste into console I spelled it rigth
[06:12] <levander> sophie_: that dpkg command would just report that the package is not installed if it's not installed, it wouldn't report that there's no package by that name
[06:13] <_jason> Razor-X, column is p{width} I believe.  Have you checked the notsoshort guide?
[06:13] <Razor-X> _jason: I have, but not in a while
[06:13] <sophie_> levander: i did "dpkg -l ubuntu-desktop"
[06:13] <levander> sophie_: view the output of 'apt-cache show gamin' to understand what gam_server does.  You can try to remove it if you wish, and see if you miss anything that gam_server would otherwise be doing
[06:13] <Razor-X> _jason: so it would look like ``\begin{tabular}{\p{3in.}|{\p{3in.}}'' ?
[06:13] <sophie_> levander: and got No packages found matching ubuntu-desktop.
[06:14] <_jason> Razor-X, I don;t think you need the \ before the p but try it both ways
[06:14] <levander> sophie_: okay, maybe i'm wrong and they take ubuntu-desktop out of the kubuntu distribution
[06:14] <Razor-X> _jason: cool, I'll give it a shot
[06:14] <levander> sophie_: i would post something on ubuntuforums.org and see if gam_server is doing something that you need
[06:14] <levander> sophie_: if it's not 'apt-get remove gamin'
[06:15] <levander> has anybody seen any really cool gnome themes online?  i've looked through some, but haven't seen any i considered outstanding
[06:15] <P8ntKid> How do i play .rm files?
[06:15] <sophie_> kennethlove: http://pastebin.com/449220
[06:15] <sophie_> levander: http://pastebin.com/449220
[06:16] <DShepherd> hey
[06:17] <levander> sophie_: i don't know much kde, you've really got to ask someone who knows kde if it's using gam_server in any way, sorry
[06:17] <Razor-X> _jason: thanks a bunch
[06:17] <Razor-X> _jason: do you have any ideas about row height?
[06:17] <Mabus06> can anyone tell me the bot's home channell?
[06:18] <_jason> Razor-X, nope I don't think I've ever used it
[06:19] <sophie_> levander: thanks for your help
[06:19] <dougsk> levander, sophie_ it appears that both kubuntu and ubuntu desktop meta packages depend on gamin.  I wonder if it helps with the pmount icons on the desktop?  anyhoopt it seems some people are renaming the binary and others have made a backported version for hoary un the ubuntuforums
[06:19] <sophie_> levander: how about firefox could it be using gam_server
[06:19] <tritium> Razor-X, I hope you're referring to texdoctk whenever you have questions like that...
[06:20] <Razor-X> tritium: *that's* the name
[06:20] <tritium> Razor-X, were you trying to remember it earlier, or what?
[06:20] <P8ntKid> How do i run a .bin file?
[06:21] <sophie_> P8ntKid: in linux extentions mean nothing
[06:21] <corndog> if its video, ive used vlc player to view .bin files
[06:21] <_jason> P8ntKid, make sure it has executable permissions, then ./file.bin
[06:21] <sophie_> P8ntKid: you can check with file name.bon
[06:21] <sophie_> P8ntKid: you can check with file name.bin
[06:21] <P8ntKid> sophie_: then how do i install it?
[06:21] <blanky> just run it man
[06:21] <blanky> sudo ./file.bin
[06:22] <Razor-X> tritium: yeah, I was
[06:22] <sophie_> P8ntKid: you can try "sh filename.bin"
[06:22] <benplaut> anyone know how to executew 'window manager hints' from the command line?
[06:22] <sophie_> blanky: I dont that is safew
[06:22] <P8ntKid> RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: cannot execute binary file
[06:22] <P8ntKid> :(
[06:22] <sophie_> blanky: I dont think that is safe
[06:22] <blanky> sophie_, me either, lets use a condom
[06:23] <DShepherd> huh???
[06:23] <corndog> dont binaries need to be compiled
[06:23] <sophie_> blanky: lets use LaTex
[06:23] <dougsk> sophie_, oh oops it appears your using breezy, hmm sorry about that
[06:23] <blanky> lol :P
[06:23] <fr500> i just installed breezy, my wireless card used to work fine in hoary out of the box but it doesnt really show up here
[06:23] <mrkoje> corndog: binaries are already compiled
[06:23] <corndog> my bad
[06:23] <blanky> lol
[06:23] <mrkoje> corndog: what needs to be compiled is the source
[06:23] <fr500> weird, installer asked me for which kernel to install
[06:23] <blanky> yeah, what you're looking for is trinaries kid
[06:23] <blanky> fr500, you mean which kernel to install FOR?
[06:23] <blanky> FOR
[06:23] <fr500> yes
[06:24] <blanky> then what kernel are you runnign
[06:24] <blanky> choose it
[06:24] <blanky> then just go wit de flow
[06:24] <jgrieves> XKBstr.h does anyone know what that is a header for?
[06:24] <blanky> back :)
[06:24] <DShepherd> mrkoje: lol
[06:24] <ilba7r> hi recommend a python ide for a newbie
[06:24] <fr500> blanky: i did but no wireless now
[06:24] <ClayG> anyone know how to connect to another server in irssi without disconnecting the first?
[06:24] <tritium> fr500, which processor do you have?
[06:24] <corndog> mrkoje can you tell me what can be used to stop certain processes from running at startup
[06:24] <benplaut> anyone know how to executew 'window manager hints' from the command line?
[06:24] <fr500> tritium: PIV
[06:24] <benplaut> woops
[06:24] <benplaut> wrong channel
[06:25] <tritium> fr500, you want linux-686, in that case
[06:25] <mrkoje> corndog: what process are you talking about
[06:25] <Agrajag> P8ntKid: you have to make the file executable
[06:25] <Agrajag> P8ntKid: chmod +x RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[06:25] <fr500> tritium: my card uses madwifi, maybe i messed something?
[06:25] <blanky> sophie_, you experienced in linux?
[06:25] <corndog> none in particular. i figure i can look them up and determine if i need them. 71 seems like too many
[06:25] <jgrieves> XKBstr.h does anyone know what that is a header for?
[06:25] <dougsk> ilba7r, idle seems to work okay if your using qt/kde you might try eric3
[06:25] <mrkoje> corndog: There is a good utility called "BUM" which is Boot-up Manager
[06:25] <jgrieves> i can't ifnd it on goggle
[06:25] <tritium> fr500, is this a fresh install?  do you have linux-restricted-modules installed?
[06:26] <fr500> yes and no i dont know why
[06:26] <mrkoje> corndog: it is a gui for gnome... apt-get install bum
[06:26] <Razor-X> tritium: I still can't find anything
[06:26] <ilba7r> thanx dougsk I found a package SPE will give it a try too
[06:26] <corndog> im running kde
[06:26] <Razor-X> tritium: at best, I see something that spans multiple rows, but nothing with fixed width
[06:26] <tritium> fr500, please install linux-686 so it pulls in linux-restricted-modules, which contains modules you may need
[06:26] <fr500> tritium: kk
[06:26] <mrkoje> corndog: you could edit the init files...   bum or the cli is better though
[06:26] <dougsk> jgrieves, 'X' keyboard maybe?
[06:26] <tritium> Razor-X, what are you trying to do?
[06:27] <sophie_> blanky: I know a litle
[06:27] <corndog> will they work with kubuntu
[06:27] <jgrieves> dougsk i have heard of XKB.h
[06:27] <Razor-X> tritium: create a tabular environment with a fixed row height and width
[06:27] <mrkoje> corndog: im not sure bum will or not... are you on kubuntu?
[06:27] <tritium> Razor-X, you probably want to \usepackage{tabularx}
[06:27] <corndog> yeah
[06:27] <blanky> sophie_, cool cool, I'm kinda familiar with it, I switched mainly to test my programs and stuff
[06:27] <mrkoje> corndog: or just install kde on ubuntu
[06:27] <dougsk> jgrieves, was pulling out of well nm
[06:27] <Razor-X> tritium: can tabularx do that?
[06:27] <corndog> no, 5.10 breezy
[06:27] <fortran01> how do we change bash behavior from bash-3.00$ to [guest@localhost ~] $
[06:27] <blanky> sophie_, starting to do some cross platform programming and stuff
[06:28] <jgrieves> dougsk ur right xkb is keyboard
[06:28] <jgrieves> keyboard string
[06:28] <jgrieves> no idea
[06:28] <corndog> it sounds like more folks prefer gnome
[06:28] <tritium> Razor-X, yes.  Search in texdoctk for it
[06:28] <sophie_> blanky: using what language and what api
[06:28] <Razor-X> tritium: I have, it shows me a total tabular width, so that it can resize certain columns to acheive said width, but nothing about height
[06:28] <DShepherd> gnome believer here.. well for now!!
[06:28] <blanky> sophie_, C/C++, I'm checking out wxWindows, but GLADE looks nice
[06:29] <tritium> Razor-X, I don't recall the details
[06:29] <blanky> sophie_, I'm still deciding though, I didn't like the idea of QT
[06:29] <sophie_> why not qt
[06:29] <blanky> cause it's too...commercially
[06:29] <mrkoje> corndog: it doesn't really matter
[06:30] <fr500> tritium: /msg nickserv ident 2430561
[06:30] <fr500> wooooooooops
[06:30] <fr500> dang
[06:30] <sophie_> blanky: I thought it was going open also on windows
[06:30] <tritium> fr500, oops ;)
[06:30] <mrkoje> corndog: i don't know of any boot up managers for kde.. not really familiar with kde at all.
[06:30] <blanky> my friend's dad across the street works in trolltech (maker of qt) though, he gave me a book to learn it but...
[06:30] <mrkoje> corndog: I know there is though... you will just have to search
[06:30] <blanky> sophie_, yeah I thought too lol, when it does I think I'll use it, since its commercial, it's got more developement put into it right
[06:31] <logical_mark> SEJeff: are you at your keyboard?
[06:31] <fr500> wew
[06:31] <blanky> logical_mark, no man, I think he's at his toilet but let me go get him
[06:31] <corndog> thank you mrkoje
[06:31] <logical_mark> blanky: being cool or being an ass?
[06:31] <dougsk> jgrieves, are you hacking on X or what, just curious
[06:32] <blanky> logical_mark, is that a trick question
[06:32] <logical_mark> blanky: nvm, I was going to ask him about the two CMS he recomended me.
[06:33] <jgrieves> dougsk compiling some junk
[06:33] <blanky> ah, i dont think he's here anymore, probably idle
[06:33] <logical_mark> blanky: I rememver that one was drupal and I wanted to know what the other was, I think it was three words thrown togethor...
[06:33] <jgrieves> dougsk accessibility sutff
[06:33] <Remdul> Hello
[06:33] <blanky> drupal is nice, ther'es a lot of 3 word ones
[06:33] <PokerFacePenguin> logical_mark: opensourcecms.com             try em all
[06:33] <dougsk> jgrieves, ah scweet so is it the future port of dragon naturally speaking for gnome?  heh heh
[06:33] <Remdul> I have a problem I wish to ask assistance with, if I may.
[06:33] <blanky> logical_mark, do you know any of the words?
[06:33] <ULffuntu> hi
[06:34] <jgrieves> dougsk yep, i'm bringing jaws over 2
[06:34] <jgrieves> dougsk with the obsolete microsoft accessibility API :)
[06:34] <logical_mark> PokerFacePenguin: I think that was it
[06:34] <dougsk> jgrieves, heh
[06:34] <logical_mark> does anyone in here use drupal?
[06:34] <blanky> sophie_, you still ther?
[06:35] <blanky> logical_mark, i've researched it
[06:35] <blanky> what about it
[06:35] <PokerFacePenguin> logical_mark: http://opensourcecms.com/ is awesome...lets u testdrive them all
[06:35] <sophie_> blanky: yep kid was crying
[06:35] <blanky> sophie_, oh, sucks lol, he/she still crying?
[06:35] <logical_mark> blanky: well, I need someone who uses it and could explain an error to me
[06:35] <jgrieves> dougsk :)
[06:35] <PokerFacePenguin> logical_mark: drupal package messed me up...did u get it goin?
[06:35] <blanky> logical_mark, oh, what type of error
[06:36] <sophie_> blanky: nope just wanted his passifier
[06:36] <logical_mark> PokerFacePenguin, blanky: I keep getting an error when I install the eCommerce module. It says that a function dosn't exist....
[06:36] <blanky> sophie_, lol, hey do you know anything about qt on windows? if they still charge for it?
[06:37] <Remdul> I need some help: I am trying to install Ubuntu, at the installation screen, it tells me to Hit ENTER to install, normal. I hit enter and it completely reboots my computer, bringing me right back to the Hit ENTER screen. Anyone know whats wrong by chance?
[06:37] <blanky> logical_mark, sorry man, though it'd be something more universal such as sql error, php error, or apache error, dont know though
[06:37] <blanky> sophie_, ?
[06:37] <ULffuntu> what kind of computer
[06:37] <Remdul> Compaq
[06:37] <ULffuntu> desktop
[06:37] <logical_mark> blanky: yeah I knew what you were getting at
[06:37] <logical_mark> blanky: thanks though
[06:38] <ULffuntu> or laptop
[06:38] <blanky> logical_mark, no problem bud, hey dude, listen, /join #drupal
[06:38] <brian_> .
[06:38] <Remdul> It's a desktop
[06:38] <ULffuntu> has it ever done this before w/ another OS
[06:38] <sophie_> blanky: Im looking on their webside now
[06:38] <logical_mark> blanky: oh yeah DUH! Going now thanks.
[06:38] <blanky> sophie_, thanks! I'm looking too but im kinda new to it
[06:38] <Remdul> Not to my knowledge, no. I ran memtest86, found nothing wrong.
[06:38] <blanky> logical_mark, no problem buddy
[06:39] <PokerFacePenguin> logical_mark: im curious ...did you use the drupal package or build it from scratch
[06:39] <ULffuntu> hold on
[06:39] <Mabus06> WOW... is every channell on freenode other than this one so unfriendly?
[06:39] <calc> Mabus06: no
[06:39] <slide> mostly thouh
[06:39] <ULffuntu> what other options did you try
[06:39] <Mabus06> Every place I go for help there are people who yell at me for not asking the question right.
[06:39] <sophie_> blanky: you need to buy a license if your app is not open source otherswise its free
[06:39] <blanky> sophie_, i found this, might be it? http://www.trolltech.com/download/qt/x11.html
[06:39] <jgrieves> Mabus06 ubuntu-accessibility is always friendly :)
[06:39] <Remdul> Server option.
[06:39] <cast> Mabus06: freenodes pretty friendly, its just peculiar as to who it's friendly too.
[06:39] <ULffuntu> have you tried rescue
[06:39] <blanky> sophie_, my app is free, where can I download it, or was that it
[06:40] <logical_mark> PokerFacePenguin: I just downloaded it, made the mySQL db and user, and setup the settings.php file. Have it running on apache2 localy now
[06:40] <sophie_> blanky: free does not mean open source
[06:40] <calc> cast: which is about the same of all irc networks ;)
[06:40] <PokerFacePenguin> logical_mark: you got the package from the repos?  how long ago?'
[06:40] <brian_> i need some help setting up a DNS server. can anyone point me in the right direction?
[06:40] <blanky> sophie_, I know, that's what I meant, I dont think I'll be making any commercial style applications if I'm barely learning it :P
[06:40] <sophie_> fuck gam_server
[06:40] <calc> brian_: look at the package "bind"
[06:41] <tritium> sophie_, please watch your language
[06:41] <blanky> yeah, let's fuck it *takes out LaTeX*
[06:41] <Remdul> no I have not. Should I do so real fast?
[06:41] <ULffuntu> f*ck gam_server too
[06:41] <brian_> calc: thank you
[06:41] <ULffuntu> well one sec
[06:41] <sophie_> tritium: sorry
[06:41] <tritium> cool
[06:41] <ULffuntu> did you make that install cd yourself
[06:41] <ULffuntu> because maybe it's corrupt
[06:41] <Remdul> Nope, they sent it to me
[06:41] <corndog> is there a tutorial on how to install programs
[06:41] <ULffuntu> which version
[06:41] <calc> grr he left already
[06:41] <Remdul> It's the official CD.
[06:42] <calc> i was going to mention bind9 was better
[06:42] <Remdul> 5.04 V
[06:42] <dougsk> jgrieves, oh btw thanks for db2, will it be ready for dapper?
[06:42] <sophie_> tritium: cron.seconds killall gam_server
[06:42] <tritium> heh
[06:42] <ULffuntu> ok, would you be able to try that cd on another computer to see what happens
[06:42] <rebort> i would like to beg for help with http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16479
[06:42] <Remdul> I've installed it on another computer before.
[06:42] <tritium> logical_mark, you installed the software in question from the repositories/
[06:42] <ULffuntu> good
[06:42] <ULffuntu> ok one sec
[06:43] <cast> Remdul: there will be non-install-cd related methods of installing one could attempt when you give up on the install cd :>
[06:43] <Remdul> How so, Cast?
[06:43] <ULffuntu> yeah, once again describe exactly what happens
[06:44] <Remdul> Aight. I put in the Installation CD and boot the computer, it comes to the Boot: screen, where it says Press ENTER to install. When I hit enter, it reboots the computer entirely, bringing me back to the Boot: screen
[06:45] <ULffuntu> even if you type in 'rescue' and then hit boot?
[06:45] <ULffuntu> i mean return
[06:45] <Remdul> let me try real fast
[06:45] <Remdul> Yes
[06:45] <ULffuntu> and memory is good?
[06:45] <Remdul> Yes.
[06:45] <logical_mark> PokerFacePenguin, tritium: Sorry for the delay. No this is a website CMS that I downloaded from drupal.org. It is a web portal system that runs on a webserver
[06:45] <ULffuntu> hold on
[06:46] <Remdul> I found no errors during my test.
[06:46] <ULffuntu> computer is good... verified
[06:46] <logical_mark> PokerFacePenguin, tritium: I am in their support channel now. Thanks guys!
[06:46] <tritium> logical_mark, please use ubuntu packages
[06:46] <PokerFacePenguin> logical_mark: ah, the repo package borked me good....good luck
[06:46] <tritium> logical_mark, okay, or use their support channelf for their packages ;)
[06:47] <ULffuntu> what year is the compaq?
[06:47] <Remdul> let me find out real fast.
[06:49] <frontovik> hi just got my ubuntu cds. first time to use it ..will it install on laptop? thanks@
[06:49] <Remdul> I am unsure. It's v3.14 (I think its a 2001 or 2002) A friend gave it to me to use as a server.
[06:49] <ULffuntu> ok
[06:49] <ULffuntu> 2 things to try
[06:49] <sophie_>   /quit
[06:49] <tritium> frontovik, yes
[06:49] <ULffuntu> go into cmos and reset to default and try the cd
[06:49] <corndog> shoudlnt this start the installation process?    /home/me/bum-2.1.2/install-sh
[06:50] <frontovik> thanks
[06:50] <Madpilot> has anyone ever gotten Inkscape to print? my printer works in everything *but* Inkscape, and I can't figure out why...
[06:50] <Remdul> I'll try it real fast.
[06:50] <ULffuntu> brb
[06:50] <tritium> pretty ironic, Madpilot
[06:51] <Madpilot> tritium: you misspelled "irritating"... ;)
[06:51] <ULffuntu> b
[06:52] <tritium> Madpilot, no doubt
[06:52] <hajiki> what wiki does the ubuntu wiki run on?
[06:52] <Madpilot> hajiki: MoinMion
[06:52] <Remdul> That did not work, unfortunately.
[06:52] <ULffuntu> ok #2
[06:52] <Madpilot> Remdul: printing from Inkscape?
[06:52] <_native_> man bsd's are pissin me off!
[06:52] <ULffuntu> go into cmos, try to turn off everything ACPI
[06:53] <Remdul> Aight
[06:53] <_native_> ;p whats up everybody. ;] 
[06:53] <ULffuntu> whazzup
[06:53] <calc> its very unlikely you can disable ACPI in bios
[06:53] <_native_> is watson here?
[06:53] <ClayG_> oh nice
[06:54] <tritium> _native_, no, he and Sherlock Holmes left earlier.  They were investigating a crime scene
[06:54] <Remdul> I dont see any ACPI stuff in the bios.
[06:54] <ULffuntu> yeah
[06:54] <_native_> lol
[06:54] <ULffuntu> hold on
[06:55] <_native_> its not his nick so i cant just do a /seen
[06:55] <tritium> ;)
[06:55] <ULffuntu> describe the processor
[06:55] <StEllis> Hey I just had to reformat my windows partition and I lost my master boot record so I cant boot into ubuntu now does anyone know how to fix this
[06:56] <cast> StEllis: reinstall grub
[06:56] <Remdul> Intel Celeron 2.8 400mhz
[06:56] <_native_> StEllis; yeah boot with live cd and install grub
[06:56] <ULffuntu> cd is x86?
[06:56] <_native_> boot with ubuntu live cd that is and do grub-install i think.
[06:56] <Remdul> Yes
[06:57] <ironwoodcarver> hello world from snowy Canada
[06:57] <No1Viking> What's the name of the compilator for C++ that kdeveloper uses?
[06:57] <ULffuntu> this is tough :)
[06:57] <ULffuntu> nothing is wrong with that computer... right?
[06:57] <starm> hello, I just installed for the first time and im getting a blank screen, anybody wish to help me?
[06:57] <_native_> ironwoodcarver; nice ;] 
[06:57] <ironwoodcarver> does anyone know why kpackage wont accept my root pasword???????
[06:57] <tritium> ironwoodcarver, hello from the desert
[06:58] <Remdul> Well, I wonder if formatting the harddrive would help, since the operating system on it is corrupt now, though I dont see how that could affect a new operating system installation
[06:58] <ULffuntu> naw I don't think
[06:58] <ironwoodcarver> Hi tritium which desert?
[06:58] <ULffuntu> like you could put in a MSDOS disk and it would work right?
[06:58] <Remdul> Windows possessed this computer. It seems not to want to let go.
[06:58] <tritium> ironwoodcarver, you specifically enabled the root account (which is disabled by default)?
[06:58] <Remdul> No floppy
[06:58] <cast> vsftpd runs as root? thats not cool
[06:58] <tritium> ironwoodcarver, New Mexico
[06:58] <ULffuntu> how about a winCD disk?
[06:58] <munzir> hi gurus, Can I put ServerAdmin directive so it would be used by all the virtual hosts instead of repeating it on each one?
[06:58] <ULffuntu> any version
[06:59] <ironwoodcarver> ha peyote
[06:59] <ULffuntu> just to see if it works
[06:59] <Madpilot> what's the apt-get command for "tell me which package this particular app comes from"?
[06:59] <Remdul> I have a Windows XP Pro CD, and i think that prompted to install fine.
[06:59] <Remdul> I can recheck though
[06:59] <ULffuntu> yeah
[06:59] <tritium> Madpilot, dpkg -S <path/to/file>
[06:59] <Remdul> Aight
[06:59] <calc> anyone else read MenusRevisited?
[07:00] <starm> please I need guidance on this first install, can anyone point me in the right direction? help.ubuntu.com doesnt have troubleshooting
[07:00] <calc> after reading that i finally realized why all my apps were disappearing
[07:00] <crimsun> calc: yep
[07:00] <tritium> hi crimsun
[07:01] <tritium> Did that work out for you, Madpilot?
[07:01] <calc> appears the comments in the comment section on that page were completely ignored
[07:01] <Remdul> Well, I got to the blue screen with no problems
[07:01] <calc> though i guess that could mean good things for debian gaining more users back
[07:01] <Madpilot> tritium: trying it now, just a sec
[07:01] <ULffuntu> well my diagnosis so far is bad ubuntu cd
[07:01] <ULffuntu> hold on
[07:01] <crimsun> tritium: hi
[07:02] <Remdul> I've tried several CDs, I hvae like 8
[07:02] <ULffuntu> so 8 failures :p
[07:02] <ULffuntu> that computer must hate linux
[07:02] <Remdul> Odd, since I've used one before though, on a laptop.
[07:03] <Gambit--> mornin' chaps
[07:03] <Remdul> Thats what I've assumed too. But for a server, theres nothing better than linux
[07:03] <ironwoodcarver> evening
[07:03] <ULffuntu> well hold on
[07:03] <Gambit--> Remdul, wow, jump right in channel and I see stuff like that, heh
[07:03] <Madpilot> calc: how badly have they cut the menus down in Dapper so far?
[07:03] <ULffuntu> can you try another version of ubuntu
[07:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> Madpilot: my applicaions menu doent work ;)
[07:03] <ULffuntu> 5.10?
[07:04] <maruchan> whats the best program to convert dvix to dvd
[07:04] <maruchan> ?
[07:04] <calc> Madpilot: don't recall though totem is gone which is something i run from menu often
[07:04] <deFrysk> Kamping_Kaiser, works fine here ;)
[07:04] <Madpilot> Kamping_Kaiser: what, at all? oops... :P
[07:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> deFrysk: :P
[07:04] <Gambit--> I'm looking for docs that will tell me the difference between installing for a "server" type or for aa normal type
[07:04] <Remdul> I suppose I can download it
[07:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> no, not at all ;)
[07:04] <calc> document viewer, image viewer, xsane are disabled as well
[07:04] <deFrysk> dapper runs ok on my box
[07:04] <ULffuntu> i think it's the cd
[07:04] <calc> bittorrent too
[07:05] <maruchan> whats the best program to convert dvix to dvd?
[07:05] <Remdul> Aight. I found a way to format the C: drive, so I am doing so now.
[07:05] <Madpilot> calc: dumping XSane doesn't make any sense to me... sure you can scan thru GIMP or even OOo, but why start those monsters up just to scan stuff?
[07:05] <calc> the whole systems menu is gone
[07:05] <ironwoodcarver> what are you using to burn the iso image?
[07:05] <Madpilot> calc: System Tools, you mean?
[07:05] <ULffuntu> so as soon as you tap enter (no text scroll that you can see) it reboots?
[07:06] <calc> Madpilot: yea
[07:06] <calc> sorry i wasn't clear
[07:06] <Remdul> No, theres 3 lines. 2 lines of files, then says Ready. Then it reboots
[07:06] <calc> i think i would rather like a nearly fully implemented fdo menu
[07:06] <ULffuntu> try hitting escape or cnt-c during that part
[07:06] <Sotek> I upgraded to Breezy, and now my sound doesn't work if I boot with the Breezy kernel. Can anyone help?
[07:06] <ULffuntu> to see what happens
[07:07] <calc> though the spec needs a little work still last i looked
[07:07] <Remdul> During the 2 files part?
[07:07] <ULffuntu> so we can see what exactly it says
[07:07] <ULffuntu> also if you might have a Live CD....
[07:07] <Remdul> Aye.
[07:08] <sladen> Sotek: there's a wiki page for debugging sound problems.  Please make sure you report it on Bugzilla, given that it's something that has broken
[07:08] <Remdul> I do
[07:08] <nekostar> arg
[07:08] <nekostar> im installing ubuntu as second os in other comp this time
[07:08] <Sotek> Sladen: I went there. I didn't see anything remotely helpful, although that may just be due to my lack of linux experience.
[07:08] <nekostar> it said it had an error during install on one package...
[07:08] <ULffuntu> well if the live cd boots then we know the computer likes linux
[07:08] <Sotek> ... and what's bugzilla?
[07:08] <nekostar> woudl that be in the syslog?
[07:08] <calc> the current way of disabling menu items by marking them disabled directly in /usr/share/applications though is a bit annoying (imho)
[07:08] <calc> thats not to say i like the way the debian menu i implemented looks either
[07:08] <Madpilot> Sotek: bugzilla.ubuntu.com -- where we report stuff that doesn't work in Ubuntu
[07:09] <Remdul> So, put the live CD in and see if it boots?
[07:09] <ULffuntu> yeah let's try that
[07:09] <Remdul> Aight.
[07:09] <calc> i just created it as a stopgap before debian would eventually switch over to the fdo menu-spec stuff
[07:09] <dpupp> whats a quick way to view the gate way of a machine?
[07:09] <UncleD> Hi Ubunuters.
[07:09] <dpupp> terminal command...
[07:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> what's the command to check memory useage?
[07:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> otehr then top
[07:10] <calc> Kamping_Kaiser: free
[07:10] <chorse> Kamping_Kaiser, free
[07:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> thanks
[07:10] <UncleD> Just loaded Ubuntu LiveCD on a machine and I noticed it boots into GNOME as user "ubuntu" - I wanted to mount /dev/hda1 from an existing file system (Redhat8) runing on the machine to fix a problem with libraries on that machine. It says I cannot mount without being root. How do I fix this?
[07:11] <starm> Can anyone help me with my install, its done and I only get a blank screen? I can do ctr-alt-F1 to get a prompt and loggin but how do I get a GUI???
[07:11] <dpupp> clarifies: whats a quick way to view the gateway of a machine thats on a wired network?
[07:11] <Davey> UncleD, "sudo mount..." in the terminal
[07:11] <Davey> or "sudo su" to become root proper
[07:11] <Remdul> Live CD is a fail
[07:11] <calc> dpupp: route
[07:11] <chorse> UncleD, sudo mount /dev/hda1 /wherever/you/like
[07:11] <UncleD> Davey, I went into the terminal.
[07:11] <ULffuntu> sudo -s
[07:11] <UncleD> Will sudo mount work from the user ubuntu
[07:11] <ULffuntu> heh hold on
[07:11] <UncleD> because when I tried to "su" it asked for a password?
[07:11] <calc> dpupp: route -n works better actually
[07:11] <sladen> UncleD: sudo mount /dev/hda1 ...
[07:11] <ULffuntu> live cd failed
[07:11] <Davey> sudo runs the command as root, essentially
[07:11] <UncleD> will it ask for a password?
[07:11] <Remdul> Yes
[07:11] <calc> dpupp: or "ip route"
[07:11] <UncleD> What is the default password?
[07:12] <Davey> not on the live cd, I don't think
[07:12] <Davey> TIAS )
[07:12] <sladen> UncleD: Ubuntu is a modern unix.  We use sudo around here, just like MacOSX
[07:12] <Davey> TIAS :)
[07:12] <sladen> UncleD: there isn't one!
[07:12] <ULffuntu> ok
[07:12] <UncleD> sladen, it requested one from me when I tried to "su root"
[07:12] <ULffuntu> give me alist of all the OSs you have on hand
[07:12] <sladen> UncleD: sudo !!!!
[07:12] <UncleD> and I hit enter and it failed.
[07:12] <ULffuntu> please
[07:12] <UncleD> sladen, ill try sudo!
[07:12] <calc> ULffuntu: sudo su -
[07:12] <sladen> UncleD: sudo mount ...
[07:12] <dpupp> Thanks CAlc!
[07:12] <starm> my mandrake died and decided to try ubunto but no veedeeo!
[07:12] <Remdul> XP Pro, XP Home, ubuntu
[07:12] <varsendagger> i am using qemu and i want to use it to start up ubuntu, does anyone know what command i need to use?
[07:12] <Davey> UncleD, yeah, its a random string, use of root proper is discouraged
[07:12] <UncleD> Ok everyone - im going to try sudo and then i'll report in!
[07:13] <ULffuntu> it would be nice if you had another linux
[07:13] <m0wax> How can I make it so that ordinary users can restart apache on a server?  As I understand sudo only allows them to do it in a certain time period?
[07:13] <UncleD> sladen, I haven't worked with MacOX
[07:13] <starm> maybe i can do something in xorg.conf?
[07:13] <Remdul> Unfortunately I dont
[07:13] <sladen> UncleD: okay, well, when you do, Mac OSX is like ubuntu ;-)
[07:13] <varsendagger> ULffuntu, are you talking to me?
[07:13] <ULffuntu> ok one sec
[07:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> m0wax: you can give them sudo access to run apache restart
[07:13] <ULffuntu> no sorry just Remdul
[07:13] <UncleD> sladen, I haven't worked with MacOSX, i've been using slackware for 7 years and then redhat for 5 (recently tried fedora but I like rh8) - now im going to go UBUNTU all the way.
[07:13] <chorse> m0wax, sudo allows users to act as superuser by typing their own passwords.
[07:13] <varsendagger> cool
[07:13] <calc> m0wax: man sudoers
[07:13] <sladen> varsendagger: the live CD with qemu, or do you have an HDD image :)
[07:13] <m0wax> Ahh.........thanks guys
[07:14] <sladen> varsendagger: s/:)/?/
[07:14] <UncleD> sladen, next question before I go back to my terminal. How do I use my linksys wireless USB device plugged into my machine?
[07:14] <ULffuntu> ok remdul
[07:14] <chorse> without root privs one cannot start apache (if it listens on a port <1024)
[07:14] <sladen> UncleD: plug it in ;-)
[07:14] <ULffuntu> go into cmos and switch off all your IDE controllers
[07:14] <Remdul> Aight
[07:14] <sladen> UncleD: it should "just work".  If it isn't, that's a bug and needs filing on Bugzilla
[07:14] <UncleD> On windows my linksys wireless device was automatically detected - its one of those ones that you plugin and it has a cord connected to a little thingy looks like ___| with the | being the antenna.
[07:14] <UncleD> sladen, it doesn't work.
[07:15] <UncleD> It didn't prompt me to connect to my wireless network.
[07:15] <varsendagger> i have ubuntu installed and debian with enlightenment installed and i want to emulate ubuntu inside the debian enlightnement
[07:15] <UncleD> I have a WEP secured wireless network
[07:15] <Remdul> Done
[07:15] <UncleD> how do I connect to it and have it ask me for the key?
[07:15] <ULffuntu> try it
[07:15] <varsendagger> sladen,
[07:15] <UncleD> Isn't there an ubuntu program that lets you detect local wireless network with devices plugged in for that purpose?
[07:15] <calc> wireless on ubuntu is still a bit complicated
[07:16] <Remdul> Disk boot failure
[07:16] <varsendagger> !wireless
[07:16] <ubotu> well, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[07:16] <ULffuntu> yeah oops, leave the cd on
[07:16] <starm> is there a wiki to troubleshoot video?
[07:16] <sladen> UncleD: you need to config WEP with the network chooser  (System->Administration->Networking), or the little network logo at the top-right of the menu-bar
[07:16] <ULffuntu> sorry
[07:16] <Remdul> lol, k
[07:16] <varsendagger> sladen, any ideas
[07:16] <sladen> varsendagger: what's your question?
[07:17] <varsendagger> i have ubuntu installed and debian with enlightenment installed and i want to emulate ubuntu inside the debian enlightnement
[07:17] <desrt> anyone know why i might see "(II) fglrx(0): DRI initialization successfull!
[07:17] <sladen> varsendagger: chroot is probably your best bet
[07:17] <desrt> " and yet still have glxinfo tell me that direct rendering is off?
[07:17] <ULffuntu> ati
[07:17] <desrt> pitti.
[07:17] <pitti> Hi desrt
[07:17] <varsendagger> how does chroot work?
[07:17] <varsendagger> --- looking on google right now
[07:18] <starm> is there a configuration too for x.org in ubunto so that I can get video?
[07:18] <desrt> varsendagger; any children processes of the command think that the directory you give is the root directory
[07:18] <starm> s/too/tool
[07:18] <pbransford> damn liquidwar is fun.
[07:18] <pbransford> like nanomachines trying to contain something :D
[07:18] <desrt> varsendagger; which is nice for 2 reasons... 1: it lets you have a mini fake system setup... 2: it prevents the programs from 'breaking out' into the real filesystem and changing stuff they ought not to
[07:19] <Remdul> *sighs* Of course it doesnt....
[07:19] <ULffuntu> ok well that elimantes a bad hd
[07:19] <cast> id go with xen over chroot personally
[07:19] <starm> like in mandrake I had drakconf is there an equivalent in ubuntu??
[07:19] <ULffuntu> and you reset the cmos to default right?
[07:19] <UncleD> sladen, ok - ill check out administration->networking - in there, what should i be looking for?
[07:19] <Remdul> Yes
[07:19] <UncleD> ubotu: thank you very much for the wireless link.
[07:19] <ubotu> UncleD: pas de quoi
[07:20] <ULffuntu> and no bad memory right?
[07:20] <UncleD> script response?
[07:20] <Remdul> No errors in my test.
[07:20] <sladen> UncleD: select your wireless-card, "Propeteries", "Key"...
[07:20] <UncleD> Ok!
[07:20] <Remdul> I may run it again overnight and during school, just to run it longer.
[07:20] <UncleD> Ill give it a shot sladen :)
[07:20] <ULffuntu> brb have to clear my brain (bathroom)
[07:20] <UncleD> thanks again.
[07:21] <lakritz> hi
[07:21] <starm> is this the right chanel is there an ubuntu help chanel or something?
[07:21] <varsendagger> cast, desrt   i'm trying to use qemu and it sais to point it to the disk linux.img  where should i look for this? /boot ore where?
[07:21] <badmacktuck> you are in the right place Starm, what can we do you for
[07:22] <pbransford> starm, yes the right channel.
[07:22] <varsendagger> these guys will hook you up
[07:22] <lakritz> how can I move multiple files with automatic renaming? I'd like to move files like foo-a.txt asdf-a.txt to foo-b.txt asdf-b.txt
[07:22] <starm> ok I just installed for the first time and am getting a blank screen, i can ctr-alt-F1 to loggin
[07:22] <pbransford> starm, but either the answer is no, or nobody knows what drakconf is
[07:22] <pbransford> starm, sounds like an X configuration problem
[07:22] <ULffuntu> Remdul: no flaky usb connected right? (this is a reach)
[07:22] <Remdul> Nope.
[07:22] <starm> yeah how do I fix it, in my mandrake (which just died) I woulda used drakconf
[07:23] <starm> how do I configure X in ubunto?
[07:23] <ULffuntu> lemme do a virtual install on my vmware, you said 5.04 right
[07:23] <pbransford> starm, not sure, but try editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf by hand if you know what you need in it.
[07:23] <Remdul> Right
[07:23] <ULffuntu> 5 min
[07:23] <Remdul> Thanks
[07:24] <starm> hum i don't, it seems to us the same "nv" driver that I used in mandrake, i dont know much more than that
[07:24] <prasetyo> hi you are
[07:24] <nekostar> eh
[07:24] <nekostar> nfs eh
[07:25] <pbransford> Hey, doesn't X have a configuration wizard?
[07:25] <starm> anyone else has a nvidia FX card had problems?
[07:25] <Mabus06> ha!
[07:25] <Mabus06> don't get me started starm
[07:25] <prasetyo> hahaha
[07:26] <Mabus06> but yeah, that's gotta be one of the most commonly asked questions
[07:26] <starm> im not even trying to install the nvidia drivers
[07:26] <Mabus06> I guess nvidia doesnt like linux
[07:26] <nekostar> likes it just fine
[07:26] <nekostar> lol
[07:26] <ULffuntu> remdul: are you there
[07:26] <nekostar> ive got nvidia all over the place
[07:26] <starm> just trying to get a GUI
[07:26] <starm> i dont need the fast drivers
[07:26] <Mabus06> well congrats nekostar, but just becuse you did not encounter problems doesnt mean it isn't problematic
[07:27] <varsendagger> hey chroot worked like a charm
[07:27] <Remdul> I am
[07:27] <nekostar> its not my fault if you cant check the forums
[07:27] <ULffuntu> ok reset cmos and boot to the intro screen
[07:27] <ULffuntu> then hold
[07:27] <nekostar> ubuntuforums.org
[07:27] <nekostar> learn it like it love it
[07:27] <nekostar> :)
[07:27] <Remdul> Aight
[07:28] <Mabus06> nekostar, don't patronize me
[07:28] <ULffuntu> press F2
[07:28] <starm> ill check the forum again
[07:28] <starm> i guess
[07:28] <Mabus06> starm, I understand your strife. heh
[07:28] <Remdul> k
[07:28] <ULffuntu> what do you see
[07:29] <starm> heh:S
[07:29] <Remdul> A helpscreen thing....
[07:29] <ULffuntu> ok hold on
[07:30] <Remdul> Prereqs for installing.
[07:30] <ULffuntu> do you fulfill the prereqs?
[07:30] <Remdul> Yes, easy.
[07:30] <ULffuntu> ok hold on
[07:31] <ULffuntu> press F3
[07:31] <Remdul> k
[07:31] <ULffuntu> let's try ACPI=off
[07:31] <ULffuntu> tell me what happens
[07:32] <ULffuntu> linux acpi=off
[07:33] <Remdul> rebooted
[07:33] <ULffuntu> ok
[07:34] <dpupp> anyone know a quick way to find out what your assigend dhcp IP address is in the terminal?
[07:34] <ULffuntu> ok press f7
[07:34] <deFrysk> ifconfig ?
[07:34] <Remdul> k
[07:34] <ULffuntu> netstat --inet -a
[07:34] <starm> theres no like x config tool where I can try different settings and test them?
[07:34] <sladen> dpupp: /sbin/ifconfig
[07:35] <dpupp> that works fantastic! thanks
[07:35] <ULffuntu> remdul: what do you see
[07:35] <sladen> starm: System->Preferences->Screen Resolution?
[07:35] <linux_new1> I have a second (ntfs) HDD that I have mounted, it shows as read only, how can i change it
[07:35] <Remdul> Special boot paramaters...
[07:35] <ULffuntu> ok
[07:35] <sladen> linux_new1: NTFS *is* readonly under Linux
[07:36] <linux_new1> oh i see:-(
[07:36] <sladen> linux_new1: there's no specification for the filesystem
[07:37] <linux_new1> will i be able to add files to that HD with ssh from a windows machine
[07:37] <topyli> sladen: well there is, but they're not telling us :)
[07:37] <varsendagger> hey when i chroot and change back to the original stuff that i had going it crashes why is this?
[07:37] <ULffuntu> ok press f6
[07:37] <Remdul> k
[07:38] <ULffuntu> ok let's try some f7 stuff
[07:38] <topyli> linux_new1: not as long as you mount it under linux
[07:38] <Remdul> k
[07:38] <ULffuntu> linux boot_debug=1
[07:38] <sladen> varsendagger: what crashes?
[07:39] <linux_new1> oh well thats a bummer:(
[07:39] <Remdul> rebooted
[07:39] <varsendagger> sladen my other distro that i am running with chroot
[07:39] <ULffuntu> ok I'll tell you what I think now
[07:39] <Remdul> Kill it?
[07:39] <ULffuntu> the first to lines are the kernel being ramdisked into memory
[07:39] <ULffuntu> hah
[07:40] <sladen> varsendagger: so the whole system crashes?
[07:40] <linux_new1> is there a better client for yahoo than gaim?
[07:40] <ULffuntu> we don't even get to the modules before it reboots right?
[07:40] <sladen> varsendagger: and this is a non-Ubuntu kernel?
[07:40] <themuffenmann> anyone know of any decent gtk theming tutorials?
[07:40] <varsendagger> no just the other distro
[07:40] <sladen> themuffenmann: try  http://art.gnome.org/
[07:40] <Remdul> It loads 2 files for installation, then reboots. thats all\
[07:41] <ULffuntu> yeah that is the ramdisk kernel
[07:41] <ULffuntu> let me see if we can adjust that
[07:41] <themuffenmann> i know..i understand it but in some themes i see 'widget_class "*whatever*"'
[07:41] <Remdul> Thank you
[07:41] <sladen> varsendagger: sorry, I'm lost.  There are too many "it" and "other"s.
[07:41] <Insipid> does anyone know if compiling a kernel and using the nvidia installer is known to increase performance in breezy?
[07:41] <themuffenmann> i dont know what the asterisks are for
[07:41] <sladen> Insipid: not really.  Possibly even negatively
[07:42] <ULffuntu> what we cold try is that f7 disable framebuffer
[07:42] <varsendagger> sorry --- too tired i'll give it a whirel tomarrow
[07:42] <Remdul> Aifgr
[07:42] <ULffuntu> tell me if you can see that on f7
[07:42] <Remdul> Aight*
[07:42] <varsendagger> sladen,  thanks anyway
[07:42] <Insipid> sladen:  something is seriously wrong with my configuration
[07:43] <sword> sup
[07:43] <sladen> Insipid: compiling kernels is likely to make the situation worse
[07:43] <sword> what's a good program to convert flac to mp3
[07:43] <Insipid> sladen:  and i have been speding days trying to figure it out, and other people that have my problem on google never get answers
[07:43] <Remdul> No good.
[07:43] <sladen> Insipid: what is the problem you are seeing?
[07:43] <ULffuntu> hmm
[07:44] <ULffuntu> Remdul: it's the memory
[07:44] <ULffuntu> do you have another stick
[07:44] <ULffuntu> to try
[07:44] <Remdul> I dont....
[07:44] <ULffuntu> how many sticks in the box
[07:44] <Insipid> sladen:  a GIGANTIC performance issue... im getting worse performance on my geforce 5200 pci then i did on my nvidia geforce 2 in debian unstable a year ago
[07:44] <Remdul> 1
[07:44] <pussfeller> sword: amarok has a script that does converting, given you have flac and lame
[07:44] <sladen> Insipid: how are you testing the performance?
[07:44] <ULffuntu> heh
[07:45] <Insipid> sladen:  and not just a little worse.. ALOT worse we are talking 8 fps in unreal tournmanet.. glxgears 1300
[07:45] <starm> woohoo! I got it
[07:45] <ULffuntu> i dunno remdul
[07:45] <ULffuntu> sorry
[07:45] <starm> this is what I used: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:45] <sladen> Insipid: glxgears is *not* a benchmark
[07:45] <Remdul> How can I repay you for trying though? I appreciate it so much
[07:45] <she_kim> guys.,i need someone to talk to....
[07:45] <ULffuntu> one million dollars
[07:45] <Insipid> sladen: nope but ut2004 *IS*
[07:45] <starm> next time someone is looking for a tool to configure x:sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:45] <ULffuntu> heh
[07:45] <sladen> Insipid: 8 fps.  Are you using software 3D?
[07:45] <Remdul> lol
[07:45] <Insipid> OpenGL from nvidia drivers
[07:46] <Insipid> hardware 3d
[07:46] <Ven0mSevenX> hello all
[07:46] <sladen> Insipid: Ubuntu installs the free drivers by default
[07:46] <Insipid> i know this
[07:46] <ULffuntu> are you gonna try memtest all night?
[07:46] <Remdul> Yeah
[07:46] <ULffuntu> too bad you don't have another stick
[07:46] <Remdul> The only other thing I can think of doing....
[07:46] <Ven0mSevenX> ive never tried wireless networking on linux before
[07:46] <sladen> Insipid: have you switched them yourself after installing?
[07:46] <Insipid> sladen:  2 seconds of google would tell me that.. i have been googling for days.. i have the nvidia drivers and i know they working
[07:46] <Ven0mSevenX> but i have the driver installed with ndiswrapper
[07:46] <Insipid> sladen:  yes im using the restricted binaries
[07:46] <Ven0mSevenX> and this is the output of iwconfig wlan0...
[07:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> damn google earth install crashed on me :(
[07:47] <david> with glxgears when you type it into terminal.is it meant to tell wat fps??cuz mine just sits there for like an hour
[07:47] <Remdul> Thank you though. Thanks a lot for your help.
[07:47] <Ven0mSevenX> wlan0     IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:off/any
[07:47] <Ven0mSevenX>           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.412 GHz  Access Point: 00:00:00:00:00:00
[07:47] <Ven0mSevenX>           Bit Rate:54 Mb/s   Tx-Power:25 dBm
[07:47] <Ven0mSevenX>           RTS thr:2347 B   Fragment thr:2346 B
[07:47] <Ven0mSevenX>           Power Management:off
[07:47] <Ven0mSevenX>           Link Quality:100/100  Signal level:-10 dBm  Noise level:-256 dBm
[07:47] <sladen> Insipid: what does   glxinfo  | grep direct   give?
[07:47] <Ven0mSevenX>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[07:47] <Ven0mSevenX>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[07:47] <sladen> Kamping_Kaiser: Google Earth for Linux?
[07:47] <Ven0mSevenX> so i figure it works
[07:47] <ULffuntu> goodluck and good night :)
[07:47] <tonyyarusso> Is it possible to mount NTFS read-write?
[07:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> sladen: no, wine
[07:47] <Ven0mSevenX> but how do i connect to something?
[07:47] <Remdul> G'night. :)
[07:47] <Insipid> it says im using stuff from NVIDIA corporation
[07:47] <Insipid> direct rendering + yes
[07:47] <Insipid> =
[07:48] <Insipid> sladen:  sorry about that.. direct rendering = yes
[07:48] <Ven0mSevenX> anyone?
[07:48] <Ven0mSevenX> need a bit of help with wireless networking
[07:49] <unique311> hello
[07:49] <cafuego> yayness
[07:49] <Insipid> sladen:  i get about 50 fps with max settings in windows, 8 fps with minimum settings in linux..... my old debian box with the geforce 2 gives about 25-30 fps which is like 3 times better than 5200
[07:50] <Insipid> sladen:  if im rendering a motionless frickin wall its like 10 fps
[07:50] <david> how do find out how many frames per second your video card is doing??????????????????
[07:51] <unique311> i just installed advancemame on ubuntu, and i am getting this error about framebuffer not being supported in X.
[07:51] <zoexii> unique311, change the vo
[07:51] <unique311> k
[07:52] <badz> ndernet.org
[07:52] <Insipid> cafuego:  i remember you from the debian channel i think :)
[07:52] <rassel_love> hi!!!!!!!!!!
[07:53] <david> hello??
[07:53] <UncleD> Ok - Running Ubuntu Live - Problem: Where in Administration -> Networking is the option to Select a wireless card OR the option to enter in a WEP Key - anyone?
[07:53] <cafuego> Insipid: Muahaha.
[07:53] <dip> I have a strange problem with a older computer, after using it for about an hour both of the cdrom drives dissapper, what could be wrong?
[07:54] <dip> bad ide controller, ide cable, power supply ?
[07:54] <zoexii> UncleD, It only appears after a wireless driver is installed,
[07:54] <she_kim> bason pod lamang naay maluoy na mkig chat nako
[07:54] <she_kim> huhuhuhuhuh
[07:54] <Insipid> cafuego:  i didnt get RTFM too much from you :)  but yeah you generally got angry hehe
[07:55] <linux_new1> is there shortcuts key combinations for copy paste etc?
[07:55] <Insipid> cafuego:  this seems like a great channel to be if you want to yell RTFM at folks though
[07:55] <Insipid> adios
[07:55] <rassel_love> hey!!!!!!!!!!!1chat pod mo nako !!!!!!!!!!
[07:55] <UncleD> zoexii - ok - how do I select a wireless driver? Or are you saying I must install a wireless driver ? because I currently am running the LiveCD - so I can't exactly install onto the CD.
[07:55] <dip> any help ?
[07:55] <cafuego> !es
[07:55] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:56] <zoexii> UncleD, I don't think you can do anything from the Live CD, but yeah, you need linux-wlan, or ndiswrapper installed.
[07:57] <rassel_love> hey guys shot up!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:57] <UncleD> zoexii - so from the LiveCD i have no internet? :(
[07:57] <cafuego> !ops
[07:57] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[07:58] <zoexii> UncleD, ethernet should work ;)
[07:58] <rassel_love> really!!!!!!!!1
[07:58] <cafuego> rassel_love: Please go away.
[07:58] <UncleD> zoexii - ethernet is active but no ethernet chord in that location!
[07:58] <benplaut> cafuego: voice of athority!?
[07:59] <cafuego> oh yeah
[07:59] <UncleD> zoexii - here's another question - I have a box that requires PPPOE to connect. Does ubuntu have a PPPOE script installed that I can set a login/pass to use?
[07:59] <zoexii> UncleD, I've set up wireless before, but never in my life have I had to deal with PPPOE... sorry
[08:03] <UncleD> zoexii - dang!
[08:03] <UncleD> zoexii - ive been using pppoe for a long time, maybe i can find the scripts for it again
[08:04] <UncleD> xoexii look what i find :) http://frankandjacq.com/ubuntuguide/rp-pppoe-3.6.tar.gz
[08:10] <TotalNewb> Anyone know how to do linux scripts that would allow you to rename files? I need to change things like Book_1_2 to book1_2 for example. Is there a way to automate that proccess?
[08:10] <zoexii> UncleD, right on....  http://frankandjacq.com/picts/california-2003/cali-album/slides/joseph-helen.html  PPPOE scripts and family vacation photos... interesting
[08:10] <No1Viking> What's the name of the compilator for C++ that kdeveloper uses?
[08:10] <mahangu> why isnt ff 1.5 in the repos?
[08:10] <mahangu> No1Viking, compiler
[08:10] <mahangu> it's compiler, not compilator
[08:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> gcc
[08:10] <No1Viking> mahangu, ok
[08:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> TotalNewb: ask in #bash, and look at the topic
[08:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> several good tutes
[08:10] <No1Viking> so what's the name of the plugin?
[08:10] <TotalNewb> Cool.
[08:11] <topyli> mahangu: because it was not out when breezy was released
[08:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> 18952 kgoetz    20   0 98944  72m  17m R 66.6 14.4  27:27.80 gaim
[08:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> does that look like a useable backtrace?
[08:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> um.
[08:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/449272
[08:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> that^
[08:12] <UncleD> zoexii - based on ubuntu's philosophy i dont think it is so surprising for frankandjacq to include family with ubuntu :)
[08:12] <No1Viking> What's the name of the compiler for C++ that kdeveloper uses as a plugin?
[08:12] <mahangu> topyli, so you mean it's not going to be in until dapper?
[08:12] <topyli> mahangu: that's right
[08:12] <mahangu> topyli, whoa that sucks
[08:12] <mahangu> i gotta go download it
[08:12] <UncleD> zoexii - this women is scary http://frankandjacq.com/picts/california-2003/cali-album/slides/joseph-helen.html
[08:12] <topyli> mahangu: well, that's what stable releases are like
[08:13] <mahangu> isnt 1.5 stable now?
[08:13] <topyli> mahangu: stable ubuntu release i mean
[08:13] <UncleD> u mean 5.1
[08:15] <paulproteus> No1Viking: g++ ?
[08:15] <paulproteus> mahangu: You're talking about Firefox 1.5.
[08:15] <paulproteus> The thing is, it wasn't released when Breezy was.
[08:15] <UncleD> I invented firefox!
[08:15] <paulproteus> So how could Ubuntu have packaged it back when Breezy was released?
[08:15] <UncleD> annndd the internet
[08:16] <UncleD> ;] 
[08:16] <paulproteus> UncleD: http://sethf.com/gore/
[08:18] <UncleD> Oh check this out paul:
[08:18] <UncleD> ii  pppoeconf                 1.1ubuntu1                configures PPPoE/ADSL connections
[08:18] <UncleD> pppoeconf comes with ubuntu!
[08:18] <UncleD> That means I can configure my dsl on my new install
[08:18] <UncleD> I hope it works
[08:18] <mahangu> paulproteus, isnt stuff packaged in between releases?
[08:18] <paulproteus> mahangu: It gets packaged for the next release, sure.
[08:19] <mahangu> paulproteus, that's in april!
[08:21] <B7su4> everytime that i go to install something off the multiverse
[08:21] <pussfeller> whats the command to only remove a package and not its dependencies
[08:21] <aftertaf> pussfeller:  apt-get remove package
[08:21] <B7su4> it says package not found...evedn after i enabled it and reloaded the page
[08:22] <Insipid> i give up... i know its not ubuntu but i have nothing else to blame anymore...
[08:22] <pussfeller> aftertaf: that removes deps too
[08:22] <aftertaf> pussfeller:  itll remove any packages that depend on the package you remove
[08:22] <Madpilot> mahangu: I gather that FF 1.5 will be backported to Breezy if/when they get the dependancies worked out...
[08:22] <pussfeller> yes, i dont want that to happen
[08:22] <pussfeller> i wnat only the package, and no deps removes
[08:22] <aftertaf> pussfeller:  which you cant really get around, afaik.
[08:22] <mahangu> Madpilot, thanks
[08:22] <aftertaf> pussfeller:  dpkg -r ?
[08:23] <pussfeller> no you can, i just cant remember the exact vefbiage
[08:23] <pussfeller> maybe its f
[08:23] <aftertaf> B7su4:  have you typed sudo apt-get update?
[08:23] <B7su4> aftertaf, no
[08:23] <aftertaf> B7su4:  close synaptic and try it.
[08:23] <B7su4> k
[08:24] <topyli> mahangu: a stable release is stable precisely because it doesn't change. if it changed, it would be called unstable :)
[08:24] <aftertaf> then, try apt-cache search [name of package you want] 
[08:24] <Madpilot> mahangu: check the ubuntuforums - there's a long thread there on the backports forum - about FF 1.5
[08:24] <aftertaf> or go dapper mahangu  :)
[08:24] <aftertaf> hi Madpilot ;)
[08:24] <aftertaf> & topyli too :] 
[08:25] <topyli> hiya
[08:25] <Madpilot> aftertaf: hi
[08:26] <aftertaf> B7su4:  did it return any errors? what are you wanting to install?
[08:26] <aftertaf> hi Hobbsee :)
[08:26] <Hobbsee> hey aftertaf!
[08:28] <ryan_> If I want to add a grub boot option, I go to /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[08:28] <topyli> ryan_: yes
[08:28] <ryan_> Ok, THanks I'll look into it
[08:30] <Madpilot> OK, that's cool - someone produces "Tux key" stickers for Linux users to cover their "Windows key" with: http://shop.tuxgraphics.org/fan/penguinsticker.html
[08:30] <Madpilot> LD
[08:30] <Madpilot> :D
[08:30] <aftertaf> looool
[08:30] <allison_1984> can anyone tell me how to install lmms ? :)
[08:30] <aftertaf> maddler:  topic it in offtopic :)
[08:31] <aftertaf> allison_1984:  lmms?
[08:31] <allison_1984> lol, its a mixer ...like fruity loops...
[08:31] <aftertaf> allison_1984:  you got a a tarball?
[08:31] <allison_1984> afteraf > http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=105168&package_id=113209&release_id=358034
[08:31] <topyli> allison_1984: apt-get install lmms
[08:32] <allison_1984> afteraf > I downloaded the archive file
[08:32] <allison_1984> afteraf > lmms-0.1.1.diff.gz
[08:33] <mrkoje> allison_1984: if its not in the repositories... and after searching the internet for quite soem time, you might need to get the source and compile it
[08:33] <allison_1984> afteraf >extracted it, and it looks like a text file...to me....
[08:33] <aftertaf> lmms diff file, hmmm. doesnt lokk very source code to me.. more like a patch
[08:33] <dpupp> is ubuntu avilable to be recorded to CD instead of DVD? my old notebook cant reconize DVDs.
[08:33] <aftertaf> dpupp:  yes... same web page.
[08:33] <mrkoje> allison_1984: you would need the source
[08:33] <dpupp> great thanks
[08:33] <aftertaf> 650meg isos
[08:34] <allison_1984> afteraf > should I be downloading this then ? >  lmms-0.1.1.tar.bz
[08:34] <aftertaf> allison_1984:  grab a .tar.gz file
[08:34] <aftertaf> allison_1984:  or that,, yeah
[08:34] <allison_1984> afteraf >ok
[08:35] <topyli> allison_1984: lmms is in breezy-backports. no need to mess with the source
[08:36] <allison_1984> topyli> you use it ?
[08:36] <aftertaf> topyli:  really? ok...
[08:36] <Hentai^XPwork> !seen Hentai^Remote
[08:36] <ubotu> hentai^remote is currently on #kubuntu (2d 10h 40m 31s) #ubuntu-offtopic (2d 10h 40m 31s) #kubuntu-offtopic (2d 10h 40m 31s) #ubuntu (2d 10h 40m 31s)
[08:36] <topyli> allison_1984: i have looked at it, but haven't done anything yet
[08:36] <ryan_> Q: how do I know which partition that's not mounted is the NTFS partition?
[08:37] <allison_1984> topyli> how did you install it ?
[08:37] <topyli> allison_1984: with apt-get
[08:37] <aftertaf> topyli:  ok. i find it in dapper, but ubotu didnt find it in breezy.... its a backport? ok !
[08:37] <dpupp> catastrophic failure to install suse,... now to try ubuntu.  :)
[08:37] <aftertaf> ryan_:   with gparted... or fdisk
[08:38] <allison_1984> topyli> was it already in your repositories ? I haven't in my add applications menu
[08:38] <allison_1984> topyli> I am trying to get it from the sourceforge
[08:38] <topyli> allison_1984: backports are not there by default, you have to add it
[08:39] <allison_1984> topyli> how do I add it ?
[08:39] <aftertaf> allison_1984:  see repos.
[08:39] <aftertaf> !repos
[08:39] <ubotu> repos is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[08:39] <allison_1984> topyli > ok
[08:40] <allison_1984> thanks guys
[08:45] <Shady> ubotu, installing azureus
[08:45] <ubotu> Shady: No idea
[08:45] <Shady> ubotu, installing programs
[08:45] <ubotu> Shady: What?
[08:45] <aftertaf> Shady:  /msg ubotu
[08:45] <Hobbsee> !azureus
[08:45] <ubotu> [azureus]  a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[08:45] <ryan_> In /boot/grub/menu.lst, root      (hdb, 0) the second number stands for the partition #? or the boot order in which it is to be displayed?
[08:46] <Shady> too good.
[08:46] <allison_1984> Shady > I installed bit tornado thru the add applications
[08:46] <aftertaf> ryan_:  man grub
[08:46] <aftertaf> itll tell you
[08:46] <allison_1984> Shady > u could try for azureus thru there
[08:46] <ryan_> aftertaf: ok, thanks
[08:46] <Shady> allison_1984, alright thanks
[08:47] <aftertaf> ryan_:  a get-out clause for 'not sure' ;)
[08:47] <ryan_> aftertaf, Thanks, I checked out the help ;) :D
[08:48] <solka> ryan_: that's partition #, starting from 0
[08:49] <Gambit-> heh ok really stupid ubuntu installation question, but wtf is my root password?
[08:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> there is none
[08:49] <rob1> !root
[08:49] <ubotu> rumour has it, root is rumour has it, that root is disabled in Ubuntu, actually this means there is no password set for the root account, use sudo when you need admin access, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[08:49] <ryan_> Solka: Thanks man
[08:49] <ryan_> :)
[08:49] <topyli> Gambit-: no root login, no password
[08:49] <Gambit-> right, ok
[08:49] <phillyb> heh, you got troppled ti seems ;)
[08:49] <allison_1984> topyli>  I just updated my repos
[08:49] <phillyb> bots and people alike
[08:49] <Gambit-> I tried sudo, but it bitches about not being able to gethostbyname() the machine
[08:50] <ryan_> Alright I'm gonna try it out, thanks guys
[08:50] <themuffenmann> hi guys
[08:50] <allison_1984> topyli>  what do i do next ?
[08:50] <rob1> Gambit-, have you changed your host name?
[08:50] <Gambit-> rob1, first time bootup
[08:50] <topyli> allison_1984: sudo apt-get install lmms. synaptic should find it as well
[08:51] <pppoe_dude> hi if i install ubuntu server, then apt-get ubuntu-desktop, will the menus in gnome be fixed in terms of sudo? coz they don't work right if you disable sudo and use root
[08:51] <rob1> Gambit-, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=78324
[08:51] <Gambit-> fuuuck
[08:51] <allison_1984> topyli> says could not find package lmms
[08:51] <Gambit-> aaarrrgh, goddamn firefox
[08:52] <topyli> allison_1984: did you do apt-get update?
[08:52] <pppoe_dude> hey whats wrong with firefox?
[08:52] <ClayG> profile in use shit
[08:52] <rob1> pppoe_dude, enable sudo again, if you want a root terminal just do sudo -s
[08:52] <Gambit-> pppoe_dude, I have a ts session open with linksys, and if I click on a link in mirc, it overwrites that window
[08:52] <ClayG> I know that sound
[08:53] <pppoe_dude> rob1, i know how to get around it, but when you do an expert install, all the administrative menu buttons dont work... they give you invalid password (coz they're trying to use sudo)
[08:53] <pppoe_dude> rob1, and the update manager is useless if sudo is disabled
[08:53] <allison_1984> topyli> updating.......I thought it would have been done in synaptics
[08:54] <rob1> pppoe_dude, you could try submitting a bug report on it
[08:54] <pppoe_dude> if there's a way to replace sudo with gksu
[08:55] <rob1> pppoe_dude, the issue might have been overlooked as the advanced install is not the usual way to install Ubuntu
[08:55] <aftertaf> sudo is irreplaceable.
[08:55] <rob1> in fact you just get stuck with the debian installer
[08:55] <aftertaf> gksu is a wrapper for yuor gui
[08:56] <pitti> pppoe_dude: you cannot compare sid to ubuntu
[08:56] <topyli> pppoe_dude: you can use gksu of course, but you would need to enable root
[08:56] <pitti> pppoe_dude: sid is a Debian *release*, ubuntu is a distro name
[08:56] <pppoe_dude> pitti, i know ubuntu is much more active
[08:56] <allison_1984> topyli> finished update
[08:56] <pitti> pppoe_dude: I wouldn't say that, Ubuntu is just active in different fields
[08:56] <allison_1984> topyli> Reading package lists... Done
[08:56] <allison_1984> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:56] <allison_1984> E: Couldn't find package lmms
[08:56] <pppoe_dude> pitti, i was referring to the releases of ubuntu
[08:56] <pitti> pppoe_dude: debian sid is equivalent to Ubuntu dapper at the moment (development versions)
[08:57] <pppoe_dude> pitti, i.e. is breezy = sid?
[08:57] <pppoe_dude> pitti, ok nm
[08:57] <topyli> allison_1984: please don't paste those messages here. we know how apt works :)
[08:57] <pitti> pppoe_dude: breezy ~ sarge
[08:57] <allison_1984> topyli> sorry
[08:57] <pitti> pppoe_dude: sarge and breezy are the latest stable releases
[08:57] <pppoe_dude> pitti, oh ok.
[08:57] <topyli> allison_1984: well, the repositories are still not right
[08:57] <aftertaf> allison_1984:  try apt-cache search lmms
[08:57] <allison_1984> topyli> ok
[08:57] <aftertaf> and allison_1984 paste your sources to a pastebin
[08:58] <aftertaf> !tell allison_1984 about pastebin$
[08:58] <aftertaf> !tell allison_1984 about pastebin
[08:58] <pppoe_dude> rob1, ya the issue was probably overlooked as i guess one of the main goals of ubuntu is ease-of-use, which is accompanied by sudo
[08:59] <allison_1984> guys, I am like 6 days with Ubuntu !! :(
[08:59] <aftertaf> allison_1984:  and you're in the right place to learn ;)
[08:59] <allison_1984> I am getting all confused .......
[08:59] <pppoe_dude> rob1, however, i think if they'd include an expert install, it would be comparable to a debian installation, instead of just the option of selecting each step,
[08:59] <rob1> sure
[08:59] <benoit> hello, ok i just got my ubuntu distro working, i come from mandrake, how do I install java 5?
[09:00] <rob1> !java
[09:00] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[09:00] <allison_1984> topyli > gkrellmms - GKrellM XMMS Plugin
[09:00] <allison_1984> ...
[09:00] <poningru> !javadebs
[09:00] <ubotu> hmm... javadebs is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[09:00] <benoit> thx
[09:00] <dpupp> i smell trouble ahead ;)
[09:00] <pppoe_dude> coz ubuntu is a bit more uptodate than debian, and as an intermediate user, i would like a more advanced environment
[09:01] <solka> !ltmodem
[09:01] <ubotu> solka: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[09:01] <pppoe_dude> lol
[09:01] <rob1> solka, try linmodem.org
[09:01] <benoit> I just thanked a bot didn't I?
[09:01] <poningru> solka: what are you trying to do?
[09:01] <rob1> solka, or is it linmodems.org
[09:01] <pppoe_dude> benoit yes
[09:02] <pppoe_dude> unless you were thanking rob1
[09:02] <poningru> !info linmodem
[09:02] <topyli> allison_1984: paste your sources.list to the pastebin
[09:02] <poningru> hmm
[09:02] <Gambit-> ok that did the trick
[09:04] <solka> robl, i'm aware of linmodem.org, i'm just interested why ltmodem module is not included in restricted-modules in breezy (in controversy with description)
[09:04] <Gambit-> now what's the command used to configure X11 servers nowadays?  It's not xf86config anymore...?
[09:04] <rob1> its too patent encumbered
[09:04] <pppoe_dude> Gambit-, try xorgcfg
[09:05] <pppoe_dude> Gambit-, and xorgconfig for command line
[09:05] <Gambit-> nope
[09:05] <Gambit-> locate doesn't find either of them, either.
[09:05] <solka> robl, thanks, then i guess the wrong description is a bus, should i report it?
[09:05] <dpupp> is there something closer to mIRC? i dont quite like the layout of Xchat...
[09:06] <mank> Can some suggest a good X based VPN client
[09:06] <poningru> dpupp: irssi
[09:06] <pppoe_dude> Gambit-, it should, are you using xorg?
[09:06] <rob1> you can run mirc in wine;)
[09:06] <Gambit-> pppoe_dude, Vanilla install from 5.10, I assume so
[09:06] <dpupp> rob1, might as well switch to windows if im going to keep depending on wine ne?:
[09:06] <pppoe_dude> Gambit-, try "sudo xorgconfig" does that give anything?
[09:06] <poningru> rob1: eew
[09:07] <Gambit-> pppoe_dude, I'm trying it from root already
[09:07] <starscalling> ok
[09:07] <mank> is there a good vpn client for ubuntu?
[09:07] <starscalling> has anyone used automatix?
[09:07] <rob1> hehe, I didnt say it was nice
[09:07] <starscalling> this shit is fuckign pimp
[09:07] <dpupp> but thanks for the alternate sugestion. it is welcome.
[09:07] <starscalling> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66563&highlight=automatix i recommend checking it out
[09:07] <rob1> starscalling, right..
[09:07] <Hobbsee> !tell starscalling about coc
[09:07] <pppoe_dude> Gambit-, do you have xbase-clients installed?
[09:08] <starscalling> o.O
[09:08] <PokerFacePenguin> any ssh gurus  here?
[09:08] <Gambit-> pppoe_dude, No idea mate.  It starts up an x server, but the device is wrong so it comes out thoroughly distorted
[09:08] <allison_1984> topyli> #pastebin.....
[09:08] <UncleD> ssh guru in the house!
[09:08] <mank> I'm sure some of us here use VPN to connect to office...what vpn clinent do you use?
[09:08] <UncleD> hey pppoe_dude, great name. I was asking today if ubuntu had pppoe ready to go
[09:09] <UncleD> then i found a pppoeconf thing
[09:09] <pppoe_dude> UncleD, lol... i got it 3 years ago
[09:09] <PokerFacePenguin> UncleD: good deal...i got keys and ssh working....i want that to be the only way to login by ssh....is is PAM i need to disable
[09:09] <PokerFacePenguin> using openssh
[09:09] <poningru> mank: did you get your answer?
[09:09] <starscalling> Hobbsee, i dont see that its changed much
[09:09] <mank> nope!
[09:09] <poningru> there is pptp-linux
[09:09] <poningru> but thats not gui
[09:09] <UncleD> poker, you'll want to disable telnetd
[09:09] <UncleD> of course
[09:09] <mank> any GUI based
[09:09] <UncleD> but also you need to disable normal login in sshd
[09:09] <UncleD> restrict it to rsa/dsa or just dsa
[09:10] <poningru> mank: hmm there is this
[09:10] <poningru> http://ccsd.msoe.edu/faq/linux/Ubuntu.jsp?IDFaq=226
[09:10] <drsung> Hi, Changing virtual consoles brings up a blank screen. browsing through forums didn't help. Anyone who can help?
[09:10] <Gambit-> PokerFacePenguin, disable PasswordAuthentication in the sshd_config most likely
[09:10] <pppoe_dude> drsung, did you try all of them?
[09:10] <PokerFacePenguin> UncleD: it is dsa already...and works that way..but if i just hit enter at the password prompt for my key..it still will authenticate with the reg passwd
[09:10] <starscalling> did you have a point Hobbsee ??
[09:11] <starscalling> not to be rude but eh?
[09:11] <mank> poningru, i am gonna try pptp config
[09:11] <PokerFacePenguin> Gambit-: do i have to restart the sshd daemon to get it to become active?
[09:11] <Hobbsee> starscalling: i thought that had a part about no swearing in there...
[09:11] <drsung> pppoe_dude, if you mean all forums.. i'm pretty sure i did not find every single one... if you mean consoles... yes.
[09:11] <starscalling> nope
[09:11] <poningru> drsung: what would you expect?
[09:11] <starscalling> !swear
[09:11] <ubotu> somebody said swear was please do not swear
[09:11] <starscalling> THAT might be wat your looking for lol
[09:11] <poningru> drsung: what do you mean blank screan?
[09:11] <poningru> drsung: as in what was missing?
[09:11] <UncleD> pppoe_dude, you been using ubuntu for three whole years!?
[09:12] <starscalling> in the future instead of being obtuse why not just say what you mean eh?
[09:12] <Gambit-> so how do I install the xorg configuration tools, anyone?
[09:12] <pppoe_dude> UncleD, no back in redhat i had to setup pppoe
[09:12] <UncleD> im a ubuntu n00b. ive been watching its development, but ive been a slackware junkie for 8 years and redhat for 5
[09:12] <pppoe_dude> UncleD, had no idea how.
[09:12] <UncleD> yea it was so hard
[09:12] <UncleD> i had to write my own script
[09:12] <UncleD> using shell language. and it took me a week
[09:12] <pppoe_dude> Gambit- try "ls /usr/X11R6/bin" does it give anything interesting?
[09:13] <UncleD> pppoe_dude, now I am hoping that ubuntu does a nice clean pppoe config
[09:13] <drsung> the screen turns itself off... (yellow light starts blinking, static noise) an turns back on when i change to Console 7 (x-server)
[09:13] <pppoe_dude> UncleD, debian has a nice one
[09:13] <danakin> im having trouble changing the mac address. can someone please help?
[09:13] <Gambit-> pppoe_dude, I looked there, actualy, and there's surpingly few binaries, just gtf, import, mmapr, mmapw, X, and Xorg, nothing else.
[09:13] <pppoe_dude> pppoeconf
[09:13] <UncleD> ya i know
[09:13] <UncleD> I seen it in the distr.pkgs
[09:14] <Gambit-> pppoe_dude, it looks like I just don't have the binaries on the system, so how would I get them?
[09:14] <pppoe_dude> Gambit-, try apt-get xbase-clients (at you own risk :P)
[09:14] <UncleD> pppoeconf comes with ubuntu also.
[09:14] <Gambit-> haha
[09:14] <Gambit-> what's likely to happen?
[09:14] <pppoe_dude> UncleD, right, well i dont use dsl anymore, back to cable so i dont pay attention :P
[09:14] <pppoe_dude> Gambit-, prolly nothing harmful... if it tells you it needs to get a million packages, dont do it
[09:15] <drsung> poningru, the screen turns itself off... (yellow light starts blinking, static noise) an turns back on when i change to Console 7 (x-server)
[09:15] <poningru> woah
[09:15] <pppoe_dude> UncleD, and im actually on debian now :P
[09:15] <starscalling> debian is really nice
[09:15] <topyli> allison_1984: sorry, missed you there. join #flood. pastebin is a web site where you can paste stuff, #flood is the channel where you can do the same
[09:15] <Gambit-> pppoe_dude, claims to be already the newest version
[09:15] <starscalling> i think it runs a tad faster than ubuntu actually
[09:15] <starscalling> but ubuntu still is a bit easier lol
[09:15] <pppoe_dude> Gambit-, do an "apt-cache search xorgconfig"
[09:16] <Gambit-> nothing
[09:16] <robotgeek> Hobbsee: !CoC
[09:16] <pppoe_dude> Gambit-, did u enable repos?
[09:16] <UncleD> pppoe_dude, dsl is where its at for supersonic speeds. Too bad my isp caps mine.
[09:16] <Gambit-> pppoe_dude, what are repos?
[09:16] <UncleD> pppoe_dude, I start downloading at like 20mbits, then i end up at 650kb. Lame eh?
[09:16] <pppoe_dude> Gambit-, oh like apt repositories in you /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:16] <B7su4> still did not work
[09:16] <danakin> can someone help me with a mac address change in 5.04? I have the command and all, but the address never stays the same after rebooting. Relatively new to linux
[09:16] <rob_p> Gambit-:  I think you want, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" if you are trying to reconfigure your xorg configuration.
[09:17] <pppoe_dude> Gambit-, or do what rob_p says
[09:17] <UncleD> danakin - add the command to your .bash_profile
[09:17] <Gambit-> hmm ok I'll give that a whirl
[09:17] <pppoe_dude> UncleD, that is why i hate dsl
[09:17] <danakin> how do i do that
[09:17] <pppoe_dude> UncleD, PLUS the whole pppoe thing is really unecessary
[09:18] <UncleD> danakin - /home/ubuntu/.bash_profile - edit that file <-
[09:18] <danakin> ok
[09:18] <poningru> where ubuntu is your username
[09:18] <UncleD> exactly.
[09:18] <ulinskie> anybody knows how I can install samba in hoary?
[09:18] <poningru> so for you its /home/danakin/.bash_profile
[09:18] <Gambit-> So do you think the vmware adapter will work under VirtualPC as well?
[09:18] <topyli> danakin: profile is not really the place for such stuff. first, it is only sourced when you log in. second, the command would need root permissions
[09:18] <UncleD> so if your username is danakin, edit /home/danakin/.bash_profile
[09:19] <UncleD> if its your box, and a fresh install, your username is probably ubuntu or danakin :}
[09:19] <poningru> !tell ulinskie about samba
[09:19] <pppoe_dude> UncleD, danakin ~/.bash_profile
[09:19] <UncleD> topyli - it needs root permissions?
[09:19] <poningru> ulinskie: did you get that?
[09:19] <UncleD> if so youll want to add it to your startup files
[09:20] <topyli> UncleD: i would suppose so. after all, you're changing the mac address
[09:20] <poningru> hmm thats true
[09:20] <UncleD> which i need to learn more about ubuntu's filesystem organization
[09:20] <UncleD> in redhat its /etc/rc.d
[09:20] <dpupp> i think im failing to understand something... im wanting to uninstall a program and its saying that ubuntu-desktop is going to be removed ---- if i uninstall irssi-text ?  to be removed : ubuntu-desktop ... why?!?
[09:20] <aftertaf> UncleD:  /etc/init.d
[09:20] <UncleD> i missed an init.d
[09:20] <poningru> dpupp: dont worry about it
[09:20] <allison_1984> aftertaf > still there ?
[09:20] <UncleD> blah my brain needs sleepy
[09:20] <UncleD> thanks aftertaf
[09:20] <aftertaf> UncleD:  and /etc/rcX.d
[09:20] <aftertaf> allison_1984:  yep :)
[09:21] <poningru> unless you are upgrading the ubuntu-desktop is not really necessary
[09:21] <topyli> dpupp: don't worry. ubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage that depends on the default ubuntu set of packages
[09:21] <allison_1984> aftertaf: I have downloaded the tar file
[09:21] <themuffenmann> quit
[09:21] <themuffenmann> exit
[09:21] <allison_1984> aftertaf: I still can't install it thru the command line
[09:21] <dpupp> so its safe to remove anything that says ubuntu-desktop will be removed?
[09:21] <topyli> dpupp: yes
[09:21] <PokerFacePenguin> UncleD: how do i restart the sshd daemon?
[09:21] <drsung> poningru, any idea where i could find some hints to solve my problem?
[09:21] <ulinskie> thanks
[09:21] <pppoe_dude> Gambit-, any luck?
[09:21] <Madpilot> dpupp: pretty much - -desktop is just a metapackage
[09:21] <ulinskie> yes I got it
[09:21] <dpupp> define metapackage?
[09:21] <pppoe_dude> Gambit-, try editin /etc/X11/xorg.conf if you want
[09:22] <topyli> dpupp: it contains nothing, it just depends on other stuff
[09:22] <Gambit-> pppoe_dude, it's defintiely going through the configuration, I'm trying with VMWare as the video card (running it under virtualpc) and we'll see how that goes
[09:22] <aftertaf> allison_1984:  did you paste your sources.list to pastebin?
[09:22] <Madpilot> dpupp: a package that exists to tell the computer to install other packages, crudely
[09:22] <pppoe_dude> Gambit-, cool
[09:22] <allison_1984> aftertaf: yes
[09:22] <Gambit-> pppoe_dude, I don't really want to hand-edit the conf, getting the devices crafted properly is tedious
[09:22] <Gambit-> :)
[09:22] <aftertaf> allison_1984:  url?
[09:22] <pppoe_dude> :P
[09:22] <poningru> drsung: I have idea dude
[09:22] <allison_1984> aftertaf: but that was before I downloaded the tar file....but after havinf updated the repos
[09:23] <poningru> drsung: did you try reducing the number of virtual desktops you have?
[09:23] <allison_1984> aftertaf: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/449307
[09:23] <PokerFacePenguin> UncleD: basically, i am looking at some sshscans in my auth.log and need to take care of this quickly on a remote machine
[09:24] <pppoe_dude> !ubuntu
[09:24] <ubotu> somebody said ubuntu was an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards
[09:24] <drsung> poningru, i don't think that's it. The problem appears only when switching consoles (Ctrl+Alt+F1-6). And that only since updating to 5.10
[09:24] <aftertaf> allison_1984:  ok... paste the contents of your sources.list.... you have a lot of repositories there!!! :)
[09:25] <poningru> drsung: yeah I have no idea dude sorry
[09:25] <Gambit-> pppoe_dude, fyi, vmware does not work for virtualpc, now I'm going to try vesa
[09:25] <B7su4> aftertaf, it still does not work
[09:25] <poningru> brb
[09:25] <aftertaf> B7su4:  what was that again?
[09:25] <allison_1984> aftertaf: where do i get this ?
[09:25] <aftertaf> allison_1984:  /etc/apt:sources.list
[09:25] <aftertaf> allison_1984:  /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:25] <insomnd> im in the process of changing nicknames
[09:25] <B7su4> every time i try to install a package from multiverse it can t find it
[09:25] <allison_1984> aftertaf: I haven't installed many of them...just a couple here and there tho
[09:26] <aftertaf> B7su4:  same here then, paste your sources.list
[09:26] <topyli> allison_1984: no breezy-backports there
[09:26] <drsung> Anyone an idea where to look for help for my "Blank-Screen-Problem" The problem appears only when switching consoles (Ctrl+Alt+F1-6). And that only since updating to 5.10
[09:26] <aftertaf> topyli:  true
[09:26] <poningru> drsung: wait hmm that seems to happen to me too
[09:26] <B7su4> aftertaf, wich source list?
[09:26] <aftertaf> B7su4:    /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:26] <Gambit-> pppoe_dude, vesa was accepted, rebooting now to see if everything still works afterwards.
[09:26] <aftertaf> !sources
[09:26] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:26] <poningru> drsung: if you press ctrl+alt+f7
[09:26] <poningru> it switches back
[09:27] <poningru> hmm this is weird
[09:27] <pppoe_dude> Gambit-, vesa usually works, but its crappy in terms of acceleration, movies, etc.
[09:27] <B7su4> aftertaf, were do i paste it?
[09:27] <Gambit-> pppoe_dude, yup, I'm running it under virtualpc anyways, so obviously performance in that sense isn't a top priority.
[09:27] <pppoe_dude> Gambit- yes
[09:27] <aftertaf> !tell B7su4 about pastebin
[09:27] <dip_> this is crazy, im running ubuntu on a P3,500mhz,512mb ram and is faster than my athlon 1700+,512mb,gentoo system
[09:28] <aftertaf> dip_:  good :)
[09:28] <poningru> dip_: rofl dont let the word get out :-)
[09:28] <dip_> how does everything load so fast
[09:28] <dip_> !
[09:28] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, dip_
[09:28] <drsung> poningru, then i would switch back to the x-server and everythings fine, but when trying to switch to a text-console the screen just turns off.
[09:28] <poningru> dip: african voodoo magic
[09:29] <Gambit-> hrm
[09:29] <poningru> drsung: hmm this only happens when pressing f4 for some random reason
[09:29] <insomnd> hi
[09:29] <poningru> the other f1-3 and 5-6 is fine
[09:29] <Gambit-> insomnd, the login X screen popped up nicely, but after I logged in the graphics got all confuzled again.
[09:29] <dip_> i ripped apart 6 old computers to make this ubuntu pc and am amazed
[09:30] <poningru> Gambit-: what graphics card is it?
[09:30] <Gambit-> poningru, virtualpc
[09:30] <insomnd> Gambit-, might be a resolution problem, refresh rate? i'm not too familiar with virtualpc/vmware etc...
[09:30] <Gambit-> insomnd, well the first screen looked fine, that's the odd part.
[09:30] <poningru> Gambit-: yeah it sounds like a resolution problem
[09:30] <B7su4> aftertaf, okay i pasted it
[09:30] <insomnd> Gambit-, but if the login screen looked fine, then in theory it should somehow work
[09:31] <Fr0Gs> how do i change a persons password in ubuntu
[09:31] <SCMark> How do i make xchat automatically not show join/part messages when I join a chat?
[09:31] <Gambit-> yeah that's my opinion too, grr.
[09:31] <poningru> !password
[09:31] <ubotu> No idea, poningru
[09:31] <poningru> wtf
[09:31] <allison_1984> aftertaf: I am denied permission to see the sources !!!
[09:31] <insomnd> Gambit-, anything interesting in /var/log/?
[09:31] <Fr0Gs> how do i change a persons password in ubuntu?
[09:31] <Gambit-> insomnd, let me check -- not usually though, as the apps don't know the screens hashed.
[09:31] <insomnd> prolly X.0.log
[09:32] <insomnd> right
[09:32] <poningru> Fr0Gs: its just sudo passwd username iirc
[09:32] <poningru> hold on
[09:32] <B7su4> aftertaf, now what do i do?
[09:32] <aftertaf> B7su4:  go here and do these changes... http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5410
[09:32] <poningru> its just sudo passwd
[09:33] <insomnd> when is gnome 3.0 coming out?
[09:33] <poningru> Fr0Gs: did you catch that?
[09:33] <Gambit-> ok brb, gotta change some configuration details
[09:33] <aftertaf> allison_1984:  use sudo.
[09:33] <insomnd> like 3d holographics etc
[09:33] <allison_1984> even in sudo
[09:33] <Madpilot> allison_1984: that whole area is owned by root - in a terminal, type "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" w/o the quotes
[09:33] <aftertaf> allison_1984:  what command did you try that denied you access?
[09:33] <topyli> Fr0Gs: if you are logged in as the user, just use passwd
[09:33] <aftertaf> thx Madpilot  :)
[09:33] <Madpilot> aftertaf: np
[09:33] <ulinskie> help! cannot open a shared folder of another workstation from by ubuntu pc.. it says somthing like desktop configuration file
[09:33] <insomnd> i wonder what gnome 10.0 looks like... or kernel 4.6.10
[09:33] <insomnd> :)
[09:34] <poningru> ulinskie: what does it say?
[09:34] <poningru> insomnd: I wager that the kernel dev will stop before that
[09:34] <linux_new1> how do i get wine
[09:34] <Gambit-> huh
[09:34] <Gambit-> didn't think I'd survive that
[09:34] <poningru> probably something like hurd/minix will take over
[09:34] <B7su4> aftertaf, do i just change those specific lines?
[09:34] <insomnd> poningru, as in something better will replace it?
[09:34] <poningru> !tell linux_new1 about wine
[09:35] <insomnd> poningru, or as in opensource will be dead?
[09:35] <aftertaf> B7su4:  you replace yours by that one
[09:35] <poningru> insomnd: I dont think so
[09:35] <topyli> poningru: minix? i sure hope not. that would be a huge stepback :)
[09:35] <linux_new1> ohh damn i acciodently closed that window
[09:35] <linux_new1> !tell linux_bew1 about wine
[09:35] <linux_new1> ?
[09:35] <linux_new1> hehe
[09:35] <poningru> topyli: have you seen the improvement tanenbaum is doing on it?
[09:35] <poningru> or whats his face
[09:36] <insomnd> k im out for a smoke
[09:36] <insomnd> latas
[09:36] <B7su4> aftertaf, all of it
[09:36] <topyli> poningru: no, except the license improvements
[09:36] <ulinskie> Do not open the file unless you created the file yourself, or received the file from a trusted source. To open the file, rename the file to the correct extension for "x-directory/smb-share", then open the file normally. Alternatively, use the Open With menu to choose a specific application for the file.
[09:36] <equilibriusmind7> hello room
[09:36] <aftertaf> B7su4:  yep remove all and paste that in it.
[09:36] <Gambit-> insomnd, there's a messsage about VBESetVBEMode failing, but it's just informational and says it tried again withot customized values.
[09:36] <equilibriusmind7> can anyone help me regarding a root program? the firewall firestarter at times fails to ask for root privilages when starting up.. still starts up.. is this normal?
[09:36] <poningru> ulinskie: hmm ic
[09:37] <aftertaf> equilibriusmind7:  do you type sudo?
[09:37] <allison_1984> aftertaf: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/449315
[09:37] <equilibriusmind7> nope
[09:37] <equilibriusmind7> usualy i enter a password for it to star up
[09:37] <poningru> ulinskie: what kinda file is it?
[09:37] <insomnd> equilibriusmind7, prolly the gnome kering
[09:37] <equilibriusmind7> but at time's, i dont have to
[09:37] <insomnd> *keyring
[09:37] <poningru> if its text then open it in gedit
[09:37] <topyli> equilibriusmind7: after you give your password once, it will be cached for 15 minutes or so. that's why you don't have to enter it again
[09:38] <insomnd> smoke
[09:38] <equilibriusmind7> ahh...
[09:38] <equilibriusmind7> i see, thanks...
[09:38] <B7su4> aftertaf, thanks it worked
[09:38] <aftertaf> allison_1984:  you dont have backports in there
[09:38] <poningru> ulinskie: right click open with other application and choose gedit
[09:38] <aftertaf> B7su4:   :)
[09:38] <Madpilot> allison_1984: did you run that Automatix script?
[09:38] <jimcooncat> hi, what can I use to play flash games (*.swf) I've downloaded?
[09:38] <poningru> topyli: how do you change that cache time?
[09:38] <aftertaf> jimcooncat:  flash can be installed
[09:39] <poningru> !flash
[09:39] <ubotu> from memory, flash is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:39] <aftertaf> !tell jimcooncat about flash
[09:39] <allison_1984> Madpilot > I ran automatix some time ago..but not today...
[09:39] <jimcooncat> thanks!
[09:39] <topyli> poningru: no idea
[09:39] <Madpilot> allison_1984: I was just wondering; that's a very strangely put together sources.list...
[09:39] <aftertaf> Madpilot:  isnt it just...
[09:40] <allison_1984> Madpilot > its looks like the update run from automatix
[09:40] <robotgeek> allison_1984, Madpilot : what is the issue?
[09:41] <topyli> allison_1984: still no backports
[09:41] <mank> hi
[09:41] <allison_1984> robotgeek : I want to install lmms....lol
[09:41] <robotgeek> allison_1984: xmms?
[09:41] <aftertaf> robotgeek:  no lmms.
[09:42] <aftertaf> allison_1984:  you need a line with breezy-backports in your sources.list
[09:42] <robotgeek> aftertaf: it doesn't show in apt-cache search ?
[09:42] <aftertaf> robotgeek:  not yet...
[09:42] <Madpilot> robotgeek: it's in Breezy Backports
[09:42] <allison_1984> aftertaf: how should I go about doing that ?
[09:42] <Madpilot> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=lmms&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all
[09:42] <robotgeek> Madpilot,aftertaf :okay
[09:42] <equilibriusmind7> i've also recently come across a program, gaim 1.3.2, modified to work with paltalk, it works, i've ran it in kubuntu, had to add some missing files from gaim 1.5, but it worked pretty well...buggy, but ok.. is there way i can modify it, (patch the new version of gaim) to work with paltalk? any programs that would help me out (not an expert at linux, just a basic new user) the website for the program is http://xodia
[09:42] <equilibriusmind7> n.net/code.php
[09:42] <Madpilot> !tell allison_1984 about backports
[09:42] <topyli> allison_1984: add this to your souces.list: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[09:43] <topyli> allison_1984: then run apt-get update and apt-get install lmms -> done
[09:43] <aftertaf> whew topyli thx :)
[09:43] <allison_1984> topyli: ok
[09:44] <topyli> allison_1984: do NOT run apt-get upgrade with backports enabled. you may not want to upgrade everything to backports
[09:45] <allison_1984> topyli: oh... no way.... :)
[09:48] <dpupp> testing 1 2 3.
[09:49] <zakame> ulinskie: ping
[09:49] <equilibriusmind7> take care all
[09:55] <Kaiser_Eats> what do people think, should i use the wine debs for grumpy or Breezy? *goes with grumpy*
[09:57] <topyli> Kamping_Kaiser: what is grumpy?
[09:57] <steve__> hey all, when using apt-get, or apt-cache, how do I compare versions available with what I have installed?  say, for mozilla-firefox?
[09:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> topyli: it's been debated for ubuntu, kinda like Debian Sid
[09:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> an 'always unstable' version
[09:58] <poningru> steve__: just use synaptic
[09:58] <topyli> Kamping_Kaiser: oh. the name fits :)
[09:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol :)
[09:58] <Madpilot> topyli: "Grumpy Groundhog"
[09:58] <insomnd> lol
[09:58] <dpupp> WOW! ubuntu installed fine on my notebook... no video problems. now to test the rest.
[09:59] <insomnd> dpupp what notebook?
[09:59] <steve__> poningru, I'll take a look at it.. but I would really like to know how to do it on the command line.
[09:59] <poningru> dont remember
[09:59] <steve__> poningru, ok.  thanks, anyways.
[09:59] <dpupp> its a sony Vaio PCG-r505/ABW (japanese)
[10:00] <insomnd> dpupp ya sonys usually fine with linux
[10:00] <insomnd> although im disappointed with their mp3 players and thumb drives
[10:00] <dpupp> insmnd, i heard different.. i read that vaio is a #@$% to get working.
[10:00] <poningru> steve__: here we go
[10:00] <poningru> show
[10:00] <rob_p> dpupp:  I've got Ubuntu on my Sony Vaio and everything works great.
[10:00] <insomnd> dpupp i had a B100B sony vaio
[10:01] <poningru> apt-cache show mozilla-firefox
[10:01] <insomnd> worked like a charm
[10:01] <dpupp> :)
[10:01] <insomnd> except the screen was too crappy
[10:01] <insomnd> any ideas on how to get a 5-in-1 TI card reader to work?
[10:01] <insomnd> thats the only thing i still didnt fix
[10:02] <steve__> poningru, that works, but it doesn't tell me what version I have installed, and what versions are available.  is it possible to downgrade?
[10:02] <insomnd> steve__, did u try aptitude?
[10:02] <steve__> poningru, sorry, I guess it does say what I have installed....
[10:02] <steve__> insomnd, no I haven't tried aptitude
[10:03] <poningru> steve__: try this as well
[10:03] <poningru> apt-cache showpkg
[10:05] <insomnd> steve__, try aptitude
[10:05] <steve__> poningru, that's like show, but it gives a bit more information that's generally not useful (reverse dependences, provides, etc)
[10:05] <steve__> insomnd, ok, I'll take a look at aptitude.
[10:05] <insomnd> steve__, search for a package it shows installed and most recent version
[10:06] <bungle_> hi all
[10:07] <poningru> Hi bungle
[10:08] <insomnd> man i need to sleep
[10:08] <insomnd> !sleep
[10:08] <ubotu> insomnd: I don't know, could you explain it?
[10:08] <steve__> insomnd, aptitude seems to work, thanks!  now, firefox 1.5 not in backports yet?  heheh
[10:08] <bungle> what the hell
[10:09] <insomnd> steve__, i dont think so... but i installed it thru tgz... just extract directory works like a charm
[10:09] <poningru> !firefox1.5
[10:09] <ubotu> rumour has it, firefox1.5 is unsupported in breezy but if you would like to install (at your own risk) Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:09] <topyli> steve__: it's a difficult package to backports. a lot of stuff depends on it
[10:09] <insomnd> works very well on my computer
[10:09] <poningru> and we should scratch that at your own risk
[10:09] <poningru> cause it works pretty well on my comp
[10:09] <poningru> and everyone should switch to 1.6
[10:10] <poningru> its the trunk btw
[10:10] <topyli> poningru: doesn't mean it will work for everybody. naturally, it is supported by mozilla.org though.
[10:10] <topyli> but not by ubuntu
[10:10] <poningru> topyli: um why wouldnt it work?
[10:11] <poningru> oh you mean trunk
[10:11] <poningru> yeah trunk is pretty unstable
[10:11] <topyli> poningru: no, i mean 1.5. it's unsupported, therefore the risk is yours :)
[10:11] <poningru> oh that
[10:11] <poningru> yeah true
[10:12] <topyli> works well for me too though
[10:12] <insomnd> so how can I use X like vnc?
[10:13] <insomnd> start an X server remotely, but have it displayed locally
[10:13] <insomnd> without vnc
[10:13] <steve__> insomnd, sssh
[10:13] <steve__> insomnd, ssh -X user@server
[10:13] <insomnd> hmm..
[10:14] <insomnd> so X can run normally on the remote machine?
[10:14] <insomnd> [server] ?
[10:15] <insomnd> ok... command successful, but it just gave me a command prompt
[10:15] <steve__> well, if you ssh'd into a server that does not have X started, and then start X, it will start it for you, but not for the entire server... it will still be a text login.
[10:15] <Seveas> insomnd, freenx does what you said
[10:15] <steve__> insomnd, (unless u ssh in as root)
[10:16] <steve__> insomnd, the -X option tells ssh to accept X packets sent from the server.  i think.
[10:16] <insomnd> ok
[10:16] <steve__> insomnd, and the server has to be configured to send those packets.
[10:16] <insomnd> steve__, ya... i think someting to do with $DISPLAY
[10:17] <insomnd> argh
[10:17] <insomnd> maybe later
[10:17] <steve__> heh
[10:17] <insomnd> so will all that behave like a normal X session?
[10:18] <insomnd> rather than a picture of my X session?
[10:18] <steve__> yeah, as far as i know.
[10:18] <insomnd> coo
[10:18] <poningru> wait how can the terminal open up an x session?
[10:19] <steve__> insomnd, i think there's an option in vnc to go fullscreen, if that's the only problem...
[10:19] <insomnd> it iwll prolly open it on one of the virtual ones
[10:19] <poningru> as in does open have another window? or what
[10:19] <insomnd> steve__, no thats not the only problem, in fact, theres no problem with vnc
[10:19] <insomnd> just seems like vnc is a bit proprietary
[10:19] <insomnd> even tho its not
[10:19] <steve__> o.O
[10:19] <steve__> ok..
[10:19] <insomnd> :p
[10:20] <b0uncer> cups wizards?
[10:20] <steve__> ^^
[10:20] <b0uncer> I've got cupsd running, yet no printers, can't access 127.0.0.1:631 etc...
[10:20] <insomnd> vncviewer -fullscreen does the trick
[10:20] <insomnd> and a vncserver -geometry xxx -depth 16 does it even better
[10:20] <steve__> insomnd, anyways, try the ssh -X thing.  works nicely.
[10:20] <linux_new1> Hi, does anybody know of a yahoo chat client with voice?
[10:20] <insomnd> i will
[10:21] <insomnd> now i need sleep tho
[10:21] <insomnd> :p
[10:21] <steve__> linux_new1, only on win32, I think.
[10:21] <steve__> insomnd, good night.
[10:21] <insomnd> ill try
[10:21] <insomnd> linux_new1, try skype
[10:21] <insomnd> not yahoo, but works
[10:21] <steve__> insomnd, (it doesn't matter if the server is already running X or not)
[10:21] <ubuntu> good morning
[10:22] <linux_new1> oh okay then... dont suppose anybody here has ran yahelite on wine?
[10:22] <insomnd> steve__ ssh -X user@server gave me a console
[10:22] <tag> I thought multiverse had the non-free flash plugin?
[10:22] <ubuntu> i finally instal ubuntu 5.10 , my question is how i can install firefox 1.5 final version in ubuntu ?
[10:22] <poningru> linux_new1: there is kopete
[10:22] <housetier> how do I report more than one bug for an application? I just reported one bug in xpat2 and would like to report another one, but I can't find the button nor the link
[10:22] <b0uncer> anybody, help me with cups?
[10:22] <steve__> insomnd, what did it output on console?
[10:22] <insomnd> ubuntu, download from mozilla
[10:22] <ubuntu> i download
[10:22] <insomnd> steve__, just a regular shell
[10:22] <poningru> !tell ubuntu about firefox1.5
[10:22] <steve__> b0uncer, what do u need help w/?
[10:23] <ubuntu> which command i need tu run for install it ?
[10:23] <b0uncer> steve__, getting my printer work :/
[10:23] <poningru> ubuntu: did you get that?
[10:23] <tag> when will firefox 1.5 be packaged with ubuntu I wonder ;-)
[10:23] <steve__> insomnd, did you try starting emacs or some graphical program?
[10:23] <steve__> xclock?
[10:23] <poningru> tag: not till dapper
[10:23] <b0uncer> it worked last time, but now cups seems to have bit the dust again
[10:23] <insomnd> steve 1 sec
[10:23] <b0uncer> can't get the web-interface open
[10:23] <tag> that is teh suck
[10:23] <poningru> 06-04
[10:23] <linux_new1> ok thnx i will have a look at kopete
[10:23] <steve__> b0uncer, have you run the config?
[10:23] <insomnd> holy crap
[10:23] <b0uncer> steve__, it won't run it anymore
[10:23] <poningru> tag: why not just download 1.5 yourself and install it?
[10:23] <insomnd> NIICE
[10:23] <steve__> b0uncer, what's ur status?
[10:23] <poningru> !firefox1.5
[10:23] <ubotu> somebody said firefox1.5 was unsupported in breezy but if you would like to install (at your own risk) Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:23] <b0uncer> I had a working config last time I tried
[10:24] <tag> because I like automatic package updates and shit
[10:24] <b0uncer> steve__, status?
[10:24] <insomnd> steve__, got it
[10:24] <steve__> insomnd, so you just had to run whatever, right?  :)
[10:24] <insomnd> quite awesome... howver, i dont know which X is running
[10:24] <b0uncer> also, cupsd seem sto be dying all the time
[10:24] <insomnd> steve__, like.. on which display is it tunneling it
[10:24] <insomnd> i guess i have to read up
[10:24] <ubuntu> thanks guys
[10:25] <UncleD> ;] 
[10:25] <steve__> insomnd, not sure how to answer ur question.  it's using the display ur already using?  heh  have fun reading
[10:25] <insomnd> so it's basically opening say "gedit" on the server and displaying the contents on localhost:1?
[10:25] <steve__> insomnd, yes.
[10:25] <steve__> insomnd, all the work is being done on the server.
[10:25] <insomnd> ok
[10:26] <steve__> insomnd, the display instructions are being sent back to ur client
[10:26] <housetier> am I allowed to only report one bug a day?
[10:26] <insomnd> steve__, so if i tried to run an X session, would that work? like X :1?
[10:26] <insomnd> ill try that
[10:26] <steve__> b0uncer, /etc/init.d/cupsd restart
[10:27] <b0uncer> no such file says my bash
[10:27] <b0uncer> cupsys is
[10:27] <b0uncer> and that re/starts all right
[10:27] <b0uncer> but still it won't help ./
[10:27] <insomnd> holly crap
[10:27] <insomnd> it worked
[10:27] <b0uncer> I think I should be able to access the web-interface of cups config
[10:27] <b0uncer> but no
[10:27] <b0uncer> timeout
[10:27] <insomnd> X :2 gave me an [ctrl] [alt] [F8]  X session, from server
[10:27] <steve__> b0uncer, does cupsd exist on ur system?
[10:28] <insomnd> yay
[10:28] <steve__> insomnd,  what do you mean  [ctrl] [alt] [F8]  X session
[10:28] <steve__> ?
[10:28] <b0uncer> yup, it does
[10:28] <insomnd> steve__, it's like i'm running another X session locally
[10:28] <b0uncer>  /usr/sbin/cupsd
[10:29] <steve__> insomnd, oh, instead of F7?
[10:29] <b0uncer> Listen 127.0.0.1:631
[10:29] <b0uncer>  <-- that's in the cups.conf, so it should let me in :/ but no...
[10:29] <steve__> b0uncer, can ur run it?
[10:29] <insomnd> steve__, ya, sorta how you can do X :2 locally,
[10:29] <b0uncer> sure I can
[10:29] <tag> oh alright!
[10:29] <steve__> b0uncer, did you try localhost:631 in browser?
[10:29] <insomnd> steve__, but puttin X :2 on the remote ssh gives me a local F8
[10:29] <b0uncer> steve__, yes, it gives me "timeout"
[10:30] <steve__> b0uncer, hmmm
[10:30] <steve__> b0uncer, and it WAS working?
[10:30] <insomnd> and a subsequent xterm -display :2 opens a terminal.... in the terminal, typing gnome-session does the trick :)
[10:30] <insomnd> thanks steve__
[10:30] <steve__> insomnd, no problem.  glad I could help.  :)
[10:31] <insomnd> steve__, and this is supposed to be encrypted right?
[10:31] <b0uncer> steve__, yes since I was able to print
[10:31] <b0uncer> everything worked, but seems like some settings are lost now because I can't open the config :/
[10:31] <steve__> insomnd, yes, it's encrypted
[10:31] <b0uncer> damn
[10:31] <b0uncer> this is what I hate in cups
[10:31] <insomnd> k
[10:31] <insomnd> off to bed
[10:31] <insomnd> ByE :)
[10:31] <steve__> b0uncer, were u able to run the config before?  or did it just "work"?
[10:31] <steve__> insomnd, g'nite
[10:31] <b0uncer> steve__, I was able to run the config
[10:32] <b0uncer> both the web-interface and that of gnome's
[10:32] <steve__> k...
[10:32] <steve__> b0uncer, what does it say when you try to run cupsd?
[10:32] <b0uncer> nothing?
[10:32] <b0uncer> just runs
[10:33] <MAX-17A2> hello
[10:33] <b0uncer> no output, and doing "ps -e | grep cupsd" gives me 1-4 lines of cupsd
[10:33] <steve__> b0uncer, ps -A | grep cups
[10:33] <steve__> oh ok
[10:35] <GaiaChld> msg jorge i listened to sinead o conner on the way to my new home
[10:35] <GaiaChld> sorry
[10:35] <steve__> sorry, b0uncer .. I'm not sure what the problem is.  I'm kinda new to ubuntu, and i was never a cups guru  (don't use it, atm)
[10:35] <b0uncer> printing seems to suck in linux..just when you get everything set up, it just crashes
[10:35] <GaiaChld> does 64 bit ubuntu support dual core amd processors ?
[10:35] <mjr> yes
[10:36] <steve__> i gotta go to sleep now. work in the morn.
[10:36] <steve__> 'nite all.
[10:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> later mate
[10:36] <b0uncer> now my cupsd die
[10:36] <b0uncer> died
[10:36] <b0uncer> exit status 99
[10:36] <b0uncer> :(
[10:36] <steve__> g'luck b0uncer .  :)
[10:38] <GaiaChld> win32 codecs wont work at all in 64 bit environment right ?
[10:39] <poningru> GaiaChld: nope
[10:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> GaiaChld: it says here (amoung other things) http://robotgeek.org/blog/easybreezy/
[10:39] <poningru> iirc
[10:39] <GaiaChld> thanks Kamping_Kaiser
[10:40] <starscalling> arg
[10:40] <starscalling> i have no sound !_!
[10:40] <gib8> hi
[10:40] <Gambit-> Anyone know why gnome changes the screen mode after login?
[10:40] <ubuntu> can i minimize to icon tray  the xchat window?
[10:41] <gib8> has someone a mainboard with nvidia-chip? becouse with mine there is no usb possible
[10:41] <vbgunz> ubuntu you can try alltray at alltray.sourceforge.net
[10:41] <starscalling> wires and cables are fine
[10:41] <Razor-X> anyone here use flwriter?
[10:41] <starscalling> but nothing comes out
[10:41] <starscalling> any clus?
[10:41] <vbgunz> alltray will help minimize some windows to the tray... I use it now... it is pretty simple... Good night everyone!
[10:41] <blue-frog> starscalling, on a laptop?
[10:42] <Razor-X> or rather, fltkutf8
[10:42] <starscalling> desktop
[10:42] <AlexMBas> ubuntu, there is a tray-enabled xchat on repository
[10:42] <AlexMBas> I use it
[10:42] <starscalling> usually ubuntu detects the sound fine.. but this is a dual install with windows as mian so
[10:42] <starscalling> seems thats a bit different
[10:42] <starscalling> xmms is telling me to make sure soundcard is configed right too
[10:43] <starscalling> so something is borked up somewhere
[10:43] <GaiaChld> such a shame mandrake does 32 and 64 bit apps and i'm a fan of man but i'm not a fan of mandrake
[10:43] <Razor-X> starscalling: try a ``cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp''
[10:43] <blue-frog> starscalling, move your mouse over the soun tray icon, what does it say?
[10:44] <gib8> r there some problems with nivdia and ubuntu?
[10:44] <starscalling> Razor-X, /dev/dsp device or resource busy
[10:44] <poningru> gib8: whats wrong?
[10:44] <starscalling> blue-frog, the volumes on
[10:44] <Razor-X> starscalling: ahhh
[10:44] <gib8> poningru, i cant connect something on my usb
[10:44] <Razor-X> starscalling: something's probably using the sound card
[10:44] <starscalling> ive installed alsamixergui and its not got all my stuff in there either for some reason
[10:44] <gib8> poningru, i also cant mount by hand
[10:44] <starscalling> Razor-X, i know the card works
[10:44] <gib8> poningru, mount is in D-Status by usb
[10:44] <starscalling> the setup works from windows boot
[10:44] <poningru> gib8: wow I think thats a good thing
[10:44] <Razor-X> starscalling: are you sure Ubuntu has the right drivers loaded?
[10:44] <starscalling> thats probably it right there
[10:44] <poningru> ;)
[10:45] <starscalling> how can i make sure
[10:45] <poningru> mounting ones hand is never a good thing :)
[10:45] <Razor-X> starscalling: my test above, once it passes, Ubuntu is working fine
[10:45] <gib8> poningru, yeah but automount also doesnt work
[10:45] <starscalling> ...
[10:45] <poningru> hmm
[10:45] <gib8> poningru, that is why i tried by hand
[10:45] <starscalling> how can i check what its running
[10:45] <starscalling> or change it
[10:45] <Razor-X> try a ``killall esd'' or a ``killall artsd'' and try again
[10:45] <poningru> so its a hd on a usb right?
[10:45] <ubuntu> alexmbass  where?
[10:45] <gib8> poningru, yes, i tried both
[10:45] <poningru> that is weird
[10:46] <poningru> do you have hotplug disabled or something?
[10:46] <starscalling> o shit
[10:46] <gib8> poningru, no, everything is enable, but in devicemanager i only see3 of my 6usb-ports
[10:46] <starscalling> i bet im not in the audio group
[10:46] <starscalling> brb
[10:46] <Razor-X> is it minded if I paste three lines in the channel?
[10:47] <starscalling> dam thats not it
[10:47] <shadygrove> I need help with a Turtle Beach Montego II (snd-au8830)
[10:47] <gib8> i read something about false architecture of nivdia-chips
[10:47] <poningru> gib8: oh thats probably because they just repeat the 3 ports into 6
[10:47] <shadygrove> cat /proc/asound/cards shows --no cards--
[10:47] <shadygrove> but the snd-au8830 module (and associated modules) are loaded
[10:47] <GaiaChld> shadygrove i had an oem version of that and i was even running windows and it was not a pleasant experience.  well, i had to RMA but it was an OEM version.
[10:48] <gib8> poningru, it shows in devicemanger when i have the usb-stick conected, that its there, but i cant connect to this :(
[10:48] <shadygrove> this card works under XP with the windows reference driver
[10:48] <poningru> gib8: that is weird
[10:48] <Razor-X> errr, can I paste three lines in the channel about a compile error?
[10:48] <paul__> hi, i've just tried to install "kubuntu", the install progresses fine, i get to the init 5 stage (startx) and it loads the gui screen, however just hangs there as if it gets stuck through the loading
[10:48] <poningru> have you tried plugging it in and restarting?
[10:48] <poningru> see if it is detected during start up
[10:48] <blue-frog> Razor-X, pastebin.com
[10:48] <GaiaChld> shadygrove then it must not be very linux supported because i must have gotten the one right before that one
[10:48] <gib8> poningru, in devicemanger there is: nforce2 usb controller
[10:49] <Razor-X> blue-frog: I guess, I still think there should be a form-function limit, but oh well
[10:49] <paul__> is there anyone here who could give me pointers as to where i can look to resolve this? I'm a little screwed as i dont really have a pc i can google with
[10:49] <gib8> poningru, yes when i plugin and start, its hangs on LVM
[10:49] <poningru> hmm
[10:49] <gib8> poningru, becuse it means there is a new hd
[10:49] <paul__> for example, is there a setup function that i can run from the console to rejig the settings for 'startx'
[10:49] <shadygrove> GaiaChld: alsa-project.org shows it as supported and I walked through their howto but no luck
[10:50] <Razor-X> http://pastebin.com/449343
[10:50] <gib8> poningru, and then it trys to mount
[10:50] <poningru> gib8: if its connected through usb it shouldnt hang
[10:50] <shadygrove> GaiaChld: I'll give a shout out to my lug and see if I can ghet somehelp there
[10:50] <gib8> poningru, ah okay ;)
[10:50] <GaiaChld> you are fortunate
[10:50] <Razor-X> I have a problem getting FlWriter (FLTKUTF8) to compile, I gave the configure file ``enable-xft'' so I'm thinking that's the problem, but I want that feature
[10:51] <gib8> poningru, thats not good *g*
[10:51] <eViL_> Is there an easyer way to upgrade the kernel on Ubuntu like there is in slackware (going to the /testing directory of Slackware CD2) ?
[10:51] <poningru> it should be the same as rebooting with a usb stick
[10:51] <gib8> poningru, and all this extern devices worked on my laptop with ubuntu
[10:51] <Razor-X> eViL_: apt isn't easy enough for you? :P
[10:51] <eViL_> how do I use it ?
[10:51] <eViL_> what should I do with APT ?
[10:51] <Razor-X> eViL_: use apt/synaptic/aptitude to snag a kernel
[10:51] <GaiaChld> paul i'd post to ubuntuforums.com and give as much technical information about your computer as possible.
[10:52] <Razor-X> I mean... when someone says Slackware, dare I say, *easy*, you should reevaluate your statement there :P
[10:52] <eViL_> how ?
[10:52] <poningru> gib8: yeah I have no idea sorry dude
[10:52] <gib8> poningru, okay thx 4 trying
[10:52] <afd_> hi! I've added a new hard-disk and I've mounted it in /mnt. That's because Gnome didn't add its disk icon in nautilus. How can I get it to appear, just like for the cdrom?
[10:52] <Razor-X> eViL_: which of the three (if any) do you use?
[10:52] <eViL_> witch package should I search for ?
[10:52] <eViL_> yes
[10:52] <eViL_> apt-get
[10:52] <Madpilot> eViL_: if you've done all the updates to Ubuntu, you should already be running the most recent available kernel...
[10:53] <eViL_> but I'm not very familiar with this things...
[10:53] <Razor-X> eViL_: ``apt-get search linux'' should do the trick
[10:53] <starscalling> 0000:01:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 04)
[10:53] <starscalling> 0000:01:0a.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy MIDI/Game port (rev 04)
[10:53] <Razor-X> but as Madpilot says, your kernel should be up to date
[10:53] <eViL_> ok
[10:53] <eViL_> thanks
[10:53] <starscalling> there's my card in lspci too
[10:53] <GaiaChld> afd, if i knew the exact answer i'd tell you but i had to fiddle with /etc/fstab for a long time to access my other drive.
[10:53] <Razor-X> might I suggest you switch to aptitude?
[10:53] <Madpilot> eViL_: there was a kernel update about a week ago
[10:53] <poningru> afd_: just make a symlink to that folder?
[10:53] <GaiaChld> doing alot of google searches
[10:53] <Razor-X> it works the same as apt-get
[10:53] <poningru> and change the icon
[10:53] <Razor-X> but it does a few things better, and even has a curses interface, if you're so inclined
[10:54] <blue-frog> afd_, add a line to /etc/fstab
[10:54] <afd_> blue-frog, I've added. /dev/sdb1       /mnt/sdb1       ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[10:55] <poningru> blue-frog: he already has mounted it
[10:55] <linx> has anyone installed Call of Duty using iso?
[10:55] <nico__> hello
[10:56] <nico__> can somebody help me?
[10:56] <nico__> i have a quite simple problem
[10:56] <linx> wats wrong?
[10:56] <poningru> nico__: dont ask to ask
[10:56] <poningru> just ask
[10:56] <nico__> i want to compile c
[10:56] <blue-frog> afd_, so what is your problem, am not i understand?
[10:56] <poningru> !build
[10:56] <ubotu> If you want to build software, you need the build-essential package to start with
[10:56] <nico__> but i don't have the .h files
[10:56] <blue-frog> afd_, so what is your problem, am not sure i understand?
[10:56] <nico__> no stdio.h anywhere
[10:57] <afd_> poningru, blue-frog, I can make a link, but I want the drive icon, and the drive listed in the top level in nautilus tree
[10:57] <Razor-X> nico__: it's part of build-essentials
[10:57] <nico__> ^^
[10:57] <linx> i need help with cedega 5.0 and installing COD from iso can anyone help?
[10:57] <poningru> afd_: yeah just change the icon
[10:57] <poningru> right click it and there is a tab that allows you to do that
[10:57] <nico__> thanks a lot
[10:58] <afd_> poningru, that's a workaround to a problem. I want to solve the problem, or know how to solve it
[10:58] <shadygrove> should my Montego II soundcard show up with 'lcpci' even if it is not configured correctly?
[10:58] <poningru> yeah I dont know exactly sorry dude
[10:58] <blue-frog> afd_,  try /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 defaults 0 2
[10:58] <shadygrove> b/c it isn't
[10:58] <blue-frog> afd_, sudo mkdir /media/sdb1  of course
[10:58] <poningru> hao2lian is that you?
[10:58] <afd_> blue-frog, sounds good. Let me try
[10:58] <Moe|Joe|c> hey peopl
[10:58] <Moe|Joe|c> ee
[10:59] <blue-frog> afd_, when fstab has bee changed   sudo umount /mnt/sdb1  then sudo mount -a
[10:59] <Moe|Joe|c> does anyone know of a decent guide for 5.10 on how to install apps and stuff?
[10:59] <Moe|Joe|c> like http://ubuntuguide.org/
[10:59] <poningru> shadygrove: are you hao2lian?
[10:59] <Madpilot> Moe|Joe|c: wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:59] <blue-frog> Moe|Joe|c, wii.ubuntu.com > starterguide
[10:59] <poningru> Moe|Joe|c: yes
[10:59] <foampeace> does debian have the latest firefox?
[10:59] <shadygrove> poningru: nope
[10:59] <nico__> arf... it doesnt' work
[11:00] <nico__> can't find sdl-cofig....
[11:00] <Madpilot> foampeace: packages.debian.org & search
[11:00] <poningru> http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/index.html
[11:00] <Moe|Joe|c> thanks everyone :)
[11:00] <linx> no one helps me >.<
[11:01] <poningru> linx: I dont think its possible to install cod on linux dude
[11:01] <poningru> trust me I would be all over that if I could
[11:01] <foampeace> does anyone know what happens if you mix debian apt sources to ubuntu apt sources?
[11:01] <Moe|Joe|c> Call Of Duty?
[11:01] <poningru> foampeace: it breaks ubuntu
[11:01] <Moe|Joe|c> u can install it on their
[11:01] <Moe|Joe|c> use cedega
[11:02] <Moe|Joe|c> to emulate it
[11:02] <poningru> Moe|Joe|c: um no
[11:02] <GaiaChld> foampeace its not advised, you should stick to ubuntu if possible.  i have used debian sources before and they worked but things can break
[11:02] <poningru> too much money/hassle
[11:02] <linx> using cedega
[11:02] <foampeace> poningru: you tried it?
[11:02] <linx> 5.0
[11:02] <poningru> foampeace: I have had to fix stuff before but on a friends comp
[11:02] <shadygrove> adios all
[11:02] <poningru> foampeace: it depends on which package it is
[11:02] <GaiaChld> foampeace yeah i dont advise it
[11:03] <Madpilot> foampeace: there've been people in here before w/ badly broken Ubuntus from mixing repos...
[11:03] <linx> i used "sudo mount file.iso /media/iso/ -t iso9660 -o loop" for both cds but when it asks me for the 2nd cd during installation it won't install cause it doesn't find it i guess
[11:03] <poningru> linx: um what are you talking about dude?
[11:03] <linx> installin cod on cedega 5.0
[11:03] <poningru> linx: oh gotcha
[11:03] <b0uncer> no working printer configuration :/
[11:04] <poningru> sorry /me has no exp in that
[11:04] <linx> no problem
[11:04] <b0uncer> when I do "poff" and get out of the net, I get "access denied" when trying to open up the cups web interface
[11:04] <linx> i tried installing CDemu
[11:04] <linx> but when i do the modprobe it says there is no such module
[11:04] <b0uncer> when I have net started via pon then I only get "timeout"
[11:04] <aftertaf> what isthe recommended kernel for a biprocessor amd 64bit ?
[11:05] <Madpilot> b0uncer: System menu --> Admin --> Printing
[11:07] <rapha> What would be as light as possible and as easy to set up as possible a POP3 server for Ubuntu (it should just serve the local users' mailboxen)
[11:08] <b0uncer> Madpilot, it won't open up
[11:08] <starscalling> ah ha!
[11:08] <starscalling> i think i know whats up
[11:08] <poningru> !pop3
[11:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> rapha: try qpopper
[11:08] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, poningru
[11:08] <starscalling> how can i switch my system from using one sound card to another?
[11:08] <starscalling> i e
[11:08] <starscalling> not that onboard pos
[11:08] <b0uncer> Madpilot, I've seen enough today to tell this: cups is restricting my access to all the config tools, and will not give me printers either though cupsd is running
[11:09] <b0uncer> web-interface gives me either a "timeout" (when I'm connected to internet) or "access denied" (when I'm not connected)
[11:09] <allison_1984> any help on installing lmms ?
[11:09] <rapha> Kamping_Kaiser: thx
[11:09] <Madpilot> b0uncer: the menu item won't open? what about the rest of the admin tools on the menu?
[11:10] <b0uncer> Madpilot, everything else works, but everything cups-related or printer-related will not open
[11:10] <b0uncer> every such tool dies on timeout
[11:10] <b0uncer> takes minutes to open, then gives an error
[11:11] <aftertaf> allison_1984:  did you add backports repository?
[11:11] <allison_1984> aftertaf > I think I did, then I did the reload, and then still nothing...
[11:12] <aftertaf> allison_1984:  id start afresh with your sources.list. use the !easysources srcipt to make you a new one, and paste over your old one with it.
[11:12] <allison_1984> aftertaf > I am going the long way...like u asked me....downloaded the tar file
[11:12] <allison_1984> aftertaf > still the command line cannot even find the files I downloaded ......
[11:12] <aftertaf> allison_1984:  not an easy path to tread if you're new.... and may have dependencies that you'll end up downloading via backports....
[11:13] <aftertaf> allison_1984:  pv msg?
[11:13] <allison_1984> yes
[11:13] <allison_1984> #allison
[11:13] <shadygrove> just wanted to let folks know my Montego II is working now
[11:13] <b0uncer> Madpilot, could it be that the problem is caused by something that also seems to prevent me from using nmap..?
[11:13] <shadygrove> somebody mentioned lspci, shich I had not checked
[11:14] <b0uncer> nmap tells me it can't figure out which interface to route the packets through?
[11:14] <b0uncer> huh?
[11:14] <shadygrove> I moved my PCI cards around and on the next boot I go a startup sound
[11:14] <shadygrove> everything checks out now
[11:14] <Madpilot> b0uncer: no idea - do all the rest of your web connection things work?
[11:14] <starscalling> i wonder if its in the bios
[11:14] <starscalling> !_!
[11:14] <ubotu> starscalling: I give up, what is it?
[11:14] <b0uncer> Madpilot, yes...nmap can scan internet addresses (ips) but 127.0.0.1 is a problem
[11:14] <b0uncer> ?
[11:15] <b0uncer> whatta..?
[11:16] <b0uncer> I can't even open up my gnome-network-prefences
[11:16] <b0uncer> something is sucking now and badly
[11:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> hvae you lost loopback?
[11:16] <raphink> b0uncer: give the result of `grep localhost /etc/hosts'
[11:16] <b0uncer> Kamping_Kaiser, yea seems like that
[11:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh, Gnome uses loopback to work
[11:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> so if it's not there, you have big issues on the Gnome front
[11:17] <b0uncer> yea that fixed the nmap problem
[11:18] <b0uncer> but I don't have port 631 open though it ought to be?
[11:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> that's printing
[11:18] <b0uncer> NOW it works
[11:18] <b0uncer> :)
[11:18] <b0uncer> heh
[11:18] <b0uncer> damn I hate cups
[11:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> so you shouldnt need it open
[11:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[11:18] <b0uncer> and why on earth will my loopback device not start upon startup?
[11:18] <aftertaf> no auto lo?
[11:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> borked networking?
[11:19] <b0uncer> aftertaf, no auto lo
[11:19] <b0uncer> :<
[11:19] <b0uncer> I used to have
[11:19] <poningru> wtf is the matter with your comp b0uncer ?
[11:19] <raphink> b0uncer: grep 'auto lo' /etc/network/interfaces
[11:19] <b0uncer> and I used to have my internet started at boot...it won't work anymore
[11:19] <b0uncer> this new Ubuntu sucks on these matters
[11:19] <aftertaf> b08y:  did you TOUCH anything?
[11:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> b0uncer: did you upgrade to it?
[11:19] <leboo> !ubotu
[11:19] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[11:19] <b0uncer> raphink, got "auto lo"
[11:19] <b0uncer> Kamping_Kaiser, yeah I did
[11:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> b0uncer: what ubuntu are you running?
[11:19] <b0uncer> Kamping_Kaiser, breezy badger
[11:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh
[11:20] <derek[] > Hi
[11:20] <derek[] > http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5411
[11:20] <aftertaf> hi derek[]  whats the problem?
[11:21] <derek[] > how do I install w32codecs package?
[11:21] <Madpilot> !w32codecs
[11:21] <aftertaf> !w32codecs
[11:21] <AdmiralCrunch> sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[11:21] <aftertaf> nope....
[11:21] <Madpilot> bleh... too long for the bot
[11:21] <aftertaf> !restricted
[11:21] <ubotu> well, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[11:21] <Madpilot> AdmiralCrunch: that doesn't work anymore
[11:21] <derek[] > AdmiralCrunch, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5411
[11:22] <leboo> !info romanian
[11:22] <Madpilot> derek[] : go to that RestrictedFormats wiki page
[11:22] <aftertaf> derek[] :  add this to sources.list http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5411
[11:22] <aftertaf> doh.
[11:22] <AdmiralCrunch> lame
[11:22] <aftertaf> not that   deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas all       <-----------this
[11:22] <derek[] > ok
[11:22] <Madpilot> AdmiralCrunch: lawyers
[11:22] <aftertaf> then apt-get update
[11:22] <b0uncer> hey when does Xchat 2.6 come into ubuntu reposities?
[11:22] <AdmiralCrunch> Sorry, haven't been on ubuntu in almost a month
[11:22] <aftertaf> b0uncer:  when you update to dapper ;)
[11:22] <Seveas> b0uncer, all in good time
[11:22] <derek[] > aftertaf, I don't want to update everything
[11:22] <Madpilot> b0uncer: in April, when Dapper is released
[11:23] <blue-frog> derek[] , wget ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb  then sudo dpkg -i w32*
[11:23] <b0uncer> Madpilot, you're saying it won't come before it?
[11:23] <aftertaf> derek[] :  you wont, but you need to tell apt about the new packages in the repos
[11:23] <derek[] > k
[11:23] <aftertaf> blue-frog:  thx... there is that too :)
[11:23] <Astxist> strange I have 2.6 on breezy
[11:23] <Madpilot> b0uncer: it might be available thru the backports
[11:23] <derek[] > thanks blue-frog
[11:24] <Astxist> heh that's probably where I got it
[11:24] <b0uncer> Madpilot, does ubuntu provide package updates other than those which are broken, before new release versions?
[11:24] <b0uncer> or do I just have to wait for 6 months before I get somethin gnew
[11:24] <blue-frog> derek[] , do not add the repo bacause if you forget to disable it afterwards you're going to udpadte things you don't want to update
[11:24] <b0uncer> *something new
[11:24] <aftertaf> b0uncer:  if it a stable release i think it gets included
[11:25] <Madpilot> b0uncer: only security updates & broken apps will get included
[11:25] <b0uncer> aftertaf, how do I do the trick: compile a package and package it so that I can install and uninstall it through synaptic?
[11:25] <b0uncer> Madpilot, that sucks :)
[11:25] <derek[] > aftertaf, "deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas all" this whole line?
[11:26] <b0uncer> I need to get something like that one site (can't remember its name) which provides new apps' rpm packages for Fedora
[11:26] <b0uncer> or then a tool which enables me to create debs for myself
[11:27] <Madpilot> b0uncer: too much of that and you'll have problems upgrading to Dapper in April...
[11:27] <Starfire> can somehow help me figure out -why- my sound isn't working when my chip is supported by alsa, alsamixer is turned up, but no sound output from anywhere. even no errors
[11:27] <derek[] > W: GPG error: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 49A120FD1135D466
[11:27] <derek[] > W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[11:27] <blue-frog> b0uncer, apt-get install checkinstall and google for it to know how to use it
[11:27] <derek[] > aftertaf,
[11:27] <b0uncer> Madpilot, which package do I need from synaptic, if I get errors from a missing glib when compiling stuff?
[11:28] <b0uncer> there's only glibc-doc and that's not it I guess
[11:29] <b0uncer> checking for GLIB - version >= 2.0.3... no
[11:29] <b0uncer> *** Could not run GLIB test program, checking why...
[11:29] <b0uncer> *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the
[11:29] <b0uncer> *** exact error that occured. This usually means GLIB is incorrectly installed.
[11:29] <b0uncer> configure: error: "Cannot find glib"
[11:29] <grant_> Do any of you guys know how to change screen resolution in GDM?
[11:29] <Kimppa> hello. How can I with grep use several keywords? As in "cat #ubuntu.log | grep keyword1 AND keyword2"?
[11:30] <Astxist> grant_, system prefrences screen resolution
[11:30] <grant_> Astxist. That changes the resolution withing GNOME, but GDM/Login Screen is still wrong resolution.
[11:30] <Astxist> oh no idea how to change that
[11:31] <aftertaf> derek[] :  that doesnt matter
[11:31] <derek[] > aftertaf, ?
[11:31] <onkarshinde> grant_: I don't think you can change resolution of GDM.
[11:31] <grant_> I have tried adding a Modeline and such into xorg.conf, but nothing seems to change it.
[11:31] <derek[] > aftertaf, verification doesn't matter?
[11:31] <grant_> It's more the refresh rate that is incorrect.
[11:31] <aftertaf> derek[] :  not this time.
[11:31] <B|4ckm0r3> hi all!i can't use the nvidia drivers with dapper...actually i'm using nv!is there a way to do it or i have to wait until a new upgrade?
[11:31] <derek[] > aftertaf, then when?
[11:31] <b0uncer> Madpilot, I haven't played with compiling apps too much, so how do I remove a self-compiled app from my pc if I need to do that?
[11:32] <b0uncer> is it something like "make uninstall" ?
[11:32] <aftertaf> B|4ckm0r3:  upgrade again now, it should work. does for me.
[11:32] <onkarshinde> b0uncer: what are you trying to compile?
[11:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> B|4ckm0r3: yeh, newly in
[11:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> same problem :)
[11:32] <aftertaf> derek[] :  then you apt-get install w32codecs
[11:32] <aftertaf> Kamping_Kaiser:  its broken again?
[11:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> but I'm sucking on vesa, as nv wont work
[11:32] <B|4ckm0r3> aftertaf:  i've upgraded 1 hour ago (it upgraded all the X stuff)
[11:32] <b0uncer> onkarshinde, trying Xchat 2.6
[11:32] <rapha> Kamping_Kaiser: thanks again... was as easy as apt-get install & worked :)
[11:32] <aftertaf> ah ok. not toucing it then for now :)
[11:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> rapha: cool :)
[11:33] <onkarshinde> b0uncer: 'make uninstall' should do. By the way, xhcat 2.6 is in backports
[11:33] <Madpilot> b08y: no idea, it sounds like you've done more compiling than I have :)
[11:33] <derek[] > aftertaf, WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[11:33] <grant_> There must be a way to change refresh rate/resolution for GDM, It's a nuisance, seeing it doubled everytime I turn on my computer.
[11:33] <derek[] >   w32codecs
[11:33] <b0uncer> onkarshinde, what's "backports"
[11:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> it did on a server i run, so glad it worked for you rapha :)
[11:33] <B|4ckm0r3> Kamping_Kaiser:  have you solved it?:P
[11:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> B|4ckm0r3: no, i havent tried :)
[11:33] <onkarshinde> !tell b0uncer about backports
[11:33] <b0uncer> and Madpilot how does it prevent me from upgrading to dapper then?
[11:34] <onkarshinde> b0uncer: Backport is repos for some apps backported to Breezy
[11:34] <Starfire> can somehow help me figure out -why- my sound isn't working when my chip is supported by alsa, alsamixer is turned up, but no sound output from anywhere. even no errors
[11:34] <z3r0x> Starfire, laptop?
[11:34] <aftertaf> Starfire:  lsmod | grep sound > do you see soundcore?
[11:34] <onkarshinde> Starfire: What are you trying to play?
[11:35] <z3r0x> Starfire, my laptop for example needs to unmute the external amplifier
[11:35] <derek[] > http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5412
[11:35] <Starfire> soundcore is there
[11:35] <Starfire> and yes, laptop
[11:35] <Starfire> the external amp -should- be unmuted
[11:35] <z3r0x> Starfire, amixer set 'External Amplifier' mute
[11:35] <blue-frog> derek[] , wget ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb  then sudo dpkg -i w32*
[11:36] <blue-frog> derek[] , would be over by now...
[11:37] <Starfire> holy moly
[11:37] <starscalling> !restricted formats
[11:37] <ubotu> methinks restricted formats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[11:37] <Starfire> and there is
[11:37] <Starfire> SOUND!
[11:37] <z3r0x> ^^
[11:37] <Starfire> i totally missed that setting in the volume control
[11:37] <derek[] > blue-frog, k
[11:37] <Starfire> i feel SO stupid
[11:37] <Starfire> thanks
[11:37] <z3r0x> np
[11:37] <Starfire> i thought the amp was unmuted
[11:37] <Starfire> but no
[11:37] <starscalling> what was you fix Starfire
[11:38] <TuntisUBUNTU> Hello?
[11:38] <starscalling> for me i had to turn off onboard sound >_<
[11:38] <z3r0x> Starfire, it was unmuted but you have to mute it
[11:38] <TuntisUBUNTU> How do I remove systems from the GRUB menu?
[11:38] <z3r0x> TuntisUBUNTU, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:38] <Starfire> open up volume control in gnome and go to edit > preference and check off the external amp
[11:38] <TuntisUBUNTU> how, I do not have access to it and in Ubuntu, there's no root
[11:38] <aftertaf> TuntisUBUNTU:  sudo
[11:39] <TuntisUBUNTU> you're telling me to use some weird vim?
[11:39] <z3r0x> TuntisUBUNTU, you can also use nano :)
[11:39] <aftertaf> TuntisUBUNTU:  sudo gedit
[11:39] <onkarshinde> !tell TuntisUBUNTU about root
[11:39] <derek[] > blue-frog, sudo dpkg -i w32* <--- this should be done by being in the directory containing the downloaded file?
[11:39] <Starfire> how come the external amp is muted by default>
[11:39] <Starfire> ?
[11:39] <Starfire> makes no sense
[11:40] <z3r0x> don't know
[11:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> derek[] : yes
[11:40] <derek[] > k
[11:40] <TuntisUBUNTU> how do I remove systems from the file, just remove them?
[11:40] <z3r0x> yes
[11:40] <blue-frog> derek[] , if you launch the command from the same terminal window from where u did wget it will work as it will be from the same directory
[11:41] <onkarshinde> TuntisUBUNTU: At the end there is listing.
[11:41] <z3r0x> so I go to bed
[11:41] <z3r0x> cya guys
[11:41] <TuntisUBUNTU> Erm, I removed them now
[11:41] <aftertaf> TuntisUBUNTU:  and if its old kernels that you want to remove, you can get them in synaptic, which will also update your grub for you
[11:41] <derek[] > blue-frog, oh. I didn't do wget.. I just copied the url to firefox
[11:41] <TuntisUBUNTU> Er, not exactly...
[11:41] <Starfire> now to get wireless working w/ WPA
[11:42] <TuntisUBUNTU> just want to already delete that old Kubuntu partition
[11:42] <sveri> hi, i even installed apache and apache2 on my system, then i removed apache, and now i cant get apache2 working, i even deleted the config files in /etc/apache2/* and now i cant get them back, removing and reinstalling doesn't help, is there a way to completely remove and reinstall apache2?
[11:42] <TuntisUBUNTU> So, I removed references to the old stuff, can I leave blank spaces after "OTHER OPERATING SYSTEMS"?
[11:42] <TuntisUBUNTU> (I just don't want to break my grub.)
[11:42] <onkarshinde> TuntisUBUNTU: Sure you can
[11:42] <z3r0x> sveri, apt-get remove --purge apache2
[11:43] <TuntisUBUNTU> So, I save the file?
[11:43] <z3r0x> sveri, with sudo, of course
[11:43] <onkarshinde> TuntisUBUNTU: Yup.
[11:43] <neutrino> Hello to all of you. The first time i come here
[11:43] <sveri> z3r0x: ok, i'll try that
[11:43] <aftertaf> welcome/bienvenue neutrino  :] 
[11:43] <TuntisUBUNTU> Do I need to execute some command now?
[11:43] <neutrino> bienvenue  aftertaf are you frensh?
[11:43] <z3r0x> TuntisUBUNTU, did you save?
[11:44] <allison_1984> aftertaf > Is the list of sources that you gave me comprehensive ? I am doing an apt-get update on those sources .....!!!
[11:44] <heatxsink> nice
[11:44] <TuntisUBUNTU> yes
[11:44] <heatxsink> anyone in here have a fglrx compatible video card?  I'm having problems with my laptop displaying to an external monitor properly
[11:44] <derek[] > is there some program like 'digital post-its'?
[11:44] <aftertaf> neutrino:  no but i live in rouen ;)
[11:44] <z3r0x> TuntisUBUNTU, then you can reboot if you want :)
[11:44] <Madpilot> derek[] : Tomboy
[11:44] <TuntisUBUNTU> Ermm, i'll do that later...
[11:44] <derek[] > Madpilot, ok
[11:45] <allison_1984> aftertaf > vous etes francais ?
[11:45] <onkarshinde> derek[] : if size of notes is not very big then there is notes applet in gnome.
[11:45] <sveri> z3r0x: that didn't do the trick
[11:45] <onkarshinde> derek[] : you can add it to panel from right click panel, add to panel
[11:45] <derek[] > hehe , Tom Sawyer
[11:46] <derek[] > onkarshinde, ah, I see! Thanks!
[11:46] <OdeLon> Hi, is there a way to restart the second phase of installation from scratch?
[11:47] <onkarshinde> OdeLon: Not really
[11:47] <heatxsink> anyone?
[11:47] <Seveas> OdeLon, ehy do you need that?
[11:47] <heatxsink> anyone?
[11:47] <Myrtti> what
[11:48] <neutrino> I am having a problem with my ext2 partition do you know any tool to check the partition other than fsck??
[11:48] <OdeLon> One of the packages was corrupt and now I only have a command line interface. startx does nothing.
[11:48] <z3r0x> sveri, maybe with --fix-missing? apt-get install --fix-missing apache2
[11:48] <Madpilot> heatxsink: I've got a 9600XT in my desktop, if that helps at all...
[11:48] <neutrino> i think it is not working fine
[11:48] <Seveas> OdeLon, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:48] <z3r0x> sveri, but I'm not sure though...check the man page
[11:48] <heatxsink> Madpilot:  do you have dual screens?
[11:48] <OdeLon> And for some reason, I don't have root access - the installer didn't ask for a root password.
[11:48] <sveri> z3r0x: thx, again, i'll try that too
[11:48] <Seveas> !tell OdeLon about root
[11:48] <heatxsink> Madpilot:  I have a X600 in my laptop I think they are relatively close
[11:49] <Madpilot> heatxsink: nope, just one. the card does have dual output, though
[11:49] <heatxsink> I'm trying to get it to do dual screens
[11:49] <OdeLon> Thanks Seveas
[11:49] <heatxsink> cause I have this external LCD just sitting here
[11:49] <heatxsink> would be nice to actually use it for something :-)
[11:49] <onkarshinde> OdeLon: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[11:49] <neutrino> I am having a problem with my ext2 partition do you know any tool to check the partition other than fsck??
[11:50] <OdeLon> What about the rest of the missing packages? I don't know which ones I've missed...
[11:50] <aftertaf> OdeLon:  there arent any...
[11:50] <aftertaf> OdeLon:  argh, ok i misread...
[11:50] <Seveas> OdeLon, ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage that depends on all of the default install
[11:51] <Seveas> so thy will be installed
[11:51] <aftertaf> heheh OdeLon if the pc is on the net, you'll need to modify your apt sources first.
[11:51] <onkarshinde> OdeLon: you can try 'sudo dpkg-recnfigure ubuntu-desktop' and then you will know if anything is missing
[11:51] <aftertaf> OdeLon:  sudo nano /etc/apt:sources;list will let you edit this list
[11:51] <derek[] > onkarshinde, thanks, stickynotes is just what i needed.
[11:51] <derek[] > onkarshinde, btw, where are you from?
[11:51] <aftertaf> OdeLon:  sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:52] <onkarshinde> aftertaf: not for basic install
[11:52] <Gambit-> hi chaps
[11:52] <onkarshinde> derek[] : form India
[11:52] <Gambit-> I have some data for the wiki, would someone be willing to add it for me?
[11:52] <derek[] > onkarshinde, so did I guess
[11:52] <OdeLon> Thanks guys. Trying all that now.
[11:52] <aftertaf> Gambit-:  log yourself on and you can add it.
[11:53] <aftertaf> onkarshinde:  no nano ?
[11:53] <Gambit-> aftertaf, I didn't really want to go through the effort of creating a user account, etc.
[11:53] <aftertaf> lol!
[11:53] <z3r0x> ^^
[11:53] <OdeLon> :( nano: command not found
[11:53] <aftertaf> onkarshinde:  ok..... no nano ;)
[11:53] <z3r0x> OdeLon, so take vi
[11:54] <aftertaf> OdeLon:  did sudo dpkg-reconfigure ubuntu-desktop give you any clues?
[11:54] <aftertaf> OdeLon:  you can also enable internet on your sources.list by running sudo apt-setup and editing by hand... which will put you in vim
[11:55] <onkarshinde> derek[] : and how did you guess?
[11:55] <OdeLon> afteraf: The computer is not on the net at the moment, so I guess it can't find anything.
[11:55] <derek[] > onkarshinde, "shinde"
[11:55] <onkarshinde> derek[] : do you know someone from India?
[11:55] <aftertaf> OdeLon:  ok. that solves that then ;)
[11:56] <OdeLon> hehe
[11:56] <derek[] > onkarshinde, I myself am here
[11:56] <aftertaf> OdeLon:  will it be on the net soon?
[11:56] <OdeLon> Anything I can do with the install CD?
[11:56] <aftertaf> OdeLon:  try the dpkg command you got before.....
[11:56] <aftertaf> and it'll try to read from the cd.
[11:56] <onkarshinde> derek[] : then why name derek?
[11:57] <derek[] > onkarshinde, internet nickname
[11:57] <aftertaf> lool onkarshinde :] 
[11:57] <derek[] > onkarshinde, btw Indians have such names..
[11:57] <linux_new1> Hi I'm tryin to install wine from the instructions at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29996 . I get up to the cvs login bit but after I enter the password cvs it keeps saying "PAM authenticate error: User not known to the underlying authentication module" what should I do?
[11:57] <onkarshinde> derek[] : :)
[11:58] <ines> salut
[11:58] <OdeLon> afteraf: I might get it online later today. Running with the CD in doesn't do anything.
[11:58] <onkarshinde> linux_new1: install from synaptic
[11:58] <linux_new1> ok
[11:58] <linux_new1> how do i do that
[11:58] <aftertaf> OdeLon:  try this:   sudo apt-get -f install
[11:59] <onkarshinde> linux_new1: System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager
[11:59] <aftertaf> linux_new1:  you run synaptic, and choose wine, then click Apply!
[11:59] <linux_new1> :D i isee
[11:59] <linux_new1> thanks
[12:00] <OdeLon> OK... that tells me that "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 11 not upgraded."
[12:00] <aftertaf> ok.
[12:00] <aftertaf> thats good.... means nothing hanging around uncofigured
[12:00] <allison_1984> aftertaf : install is taking place, slowly but surely....thanks... !....
[12:00] <aftertaf> allison_1984:   ;)
[12:00] <onkarshinde> OdeLon: Then you should do 'sudo apt-get upgrade'
[12:00] <aftertaf> OdeLon:  try that^^^^^   and then sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:01] <OdeLon> Once the computer is on the net?
[12:01] <aftertaf> OdeLon:  you can try now, with the cd.... for net updates, you'll need to modify your sources.list.
[12:01] <derek[] > For some reason I'm not anymore able to type tilde.. whether with pressing shift or without it, only ` types
[12:02] <aftertaf> OdeLon:  which you can do now too via vim
[12:02] <aftertaf> OdeLon:  try now:   sudo apt-get install nano
[12:02] <aftertaf> nano is easier
[12:02] <aftertaf> though vim rocks
[12:03] <Starfire> real men use vim
[12:03] <kestas> !tell kestas about libdecss
[12:07] <kestas> !tell kestas about libcss
[12:07] <kestas> argh
[12:07] <Gambit---> well someone who /can/ log in to the wiki, would you like to add a section for me?
[12:09] <khalif> Morning to all!
[12:09] <khalif> :)
[12:09] <ulinskie> anybody! how come I cannot browse another windows computer in ubuntu hoary samba?
[12:09] <OdeLon> Yuck "Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg received a segmentation fault".
[12:10] <khalif> Would anyone happen to know how to install icons?
[12:10] <Myrtti> ulinskie: you've got smbfs installed?
[12:11] <khalif> Since I don't know what that is, I would have to say no, LOL!
[12:12] <khalif> My bad you weren't talking to me. Soory noob here, lol!
[12:14] <allison_1984> aftertaf > lmms is installed, says so in the synaptics P manager.......why can't I see it ? like a tangible icon to open it ?
[12:14] <khalif> I know that I have to compile themes first before I install, but I don't have the first clue on what I would need to do to install icons. could anyone shed a little light?
[12:15] <poningru> !theme
[12:15] <ubotu> poningru: What?
[12:15] <poningru> !themes
[12:15] <poningru> !tell khalif about themes
[12:16] <poningru> !theme is <reply> see !themes
[12:16] <ubotu> poningru: okay
[12:16] <poningru> ubotu: botsnack
[12:16] <ubotu> thanks poningru :)
[12:16] <solka> !themes
[12:16] <poningru> allison_1984: try opening up a terminal
[12:16] <khalif> I appreciate any help that I can get.... :)
[12:16] <poningru> and type in lmms
[12:17] <dpupp> anyone know how i can fix this; checking for XdbeQueryExtension in -lXext... no
[12:17] <dpupp> configure: error: something went wrong when checking for Xdbe (double buffer extension)
[12:17] <solka> !KDEthemes
[12:17] <poningru> !kdetheme
[12:17] <ubotu> poningru: No idea
[12:17] <NetGrunt> hi there ubuntuers
[12:17] <poningru> !kdetheme is <reply> Kdethemes
[12:17] <ubotu> poningru: okay
[12:18] <poningru> !kdethemes
[12:18] <NetGrunt> does anybody know how can I install the tahoma font under Ubuntu 5.10 ? Thanks
[12:18] <poningru> awesome
[12:18] <poningru> !fonts
[12:18] <ubotu> somebody said fonts was https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[12:18] <cafuego> NetGrunt: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[12:18] <NetGrunt> cafuego : I already have msttcorefonts
[12:18] <NetGrunt> from 5.04
[12:19] <derek[] > What's the GUI based FTP program for linux?
[12:19] <NetGrunt> root@gong:~ # dpkg -l | grep mstt
[12:19] <NetGrunt> ii  msttcorefonts                         1.2ubuntu2                         Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts
[12:19] <poningru> derek[] : gftp
[12:19] <poningru> derek[] : there are many
[12:19] <cafuego> NetGrunt: Hmm, does it not include Tahoma?
[12:20] <poningru> NetGrunt: I am pretty sure it does include it
[12:20] <poningru> its owned by ms
[12:20] <poningru> hmm weird
[12:20] <cafuego> !find Tahoma
[12:20] <eruin> anyone come across this in dapper? (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libGLcore.so
[12:21] <NetGrunt> root@gong:/usr/share/fonts # find . -name "*ahoma*" -print
[12:21] <NetGrunt> nothing
[12:21] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'Tahoma' returned no results.
[12:22] <cafuego> NetGrunt: It's not a free font then.
[12:22] <NetGrunt> cafuego, that's why I installed msttcorefonts
[12:22] <NetGrunt> but still no luck
[12:22] <poningru> http://www.pipian.com/anime/tahoma.htm
[12:22] <poningru> just install from there
[12:22] <cafuego> NetGrunt: No, Tahoma would be even less free. As in: not available.
[12:22] <khalif> anyone know how to install icons?
[12:22] <ryan_> hellou people
[12:22] <Insipid> cafuego: you use an nvidia card in ubuntu?
[12:22] <cafuego> Insipid: Yes
[12:23] <eruin> Tahoma is supposed to be installed by the msttcorefonts package
[12:23] <NetGrunt> cafuego, it used to be on 5.04 ;)
[12:23] <Insipid> cafuego: binaries?
[12:23] <cafuego> eruin: Actually, it's not.
[12:23] <poningru> !font
[12:23] <ryan_> wondering... is there any command that i can type in ubuntu, from the standard gnome terminal, to open another instance of the gnome terminal?
[12:23] <ubotu> poningru: Do they come in packets of five?
[12:23] <poningru> !fonts
[12:23] <ubotu> I guess fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[12:23] <cafuego> Insipid: Prebuilt, yes. amd64. Works fine
[12:23] <Ng> tahoma isn't available under a redistribution license
[12:23] <Ng> you will need to own it via windows/office
[12:23] <poningru> !font is <reply> fonts
[12:23] <ubotu> okay, poningru
[12:23] <cafuego> Copy tahoma.ttf from any windows box to ~/.fonts
[12:24] <Insipid> cafuego:  Man, I have been living the google life for about a week and i can't figure out why im having such a strange issue with my nvidia card..
[12:24] <eruin> Ng, ah, right, I was thinking of trebuchet
[12:24] <NetGrunt> ubotu, that's good thanks
[12:24] <ubotu> NetGrunt: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[12:24] <cafuego> Insipid: Old card?
[12:24] <Insipid> cafuego:  Ill explain the situation.. one sec
[12:24] <poningru> ryan_: dude just type gnome-terminal
[12:25] <cafuego> Insipid: I'm actually going to run off again, I have house guests.
[12:25] <poningru> cafuego: entertaining people?
[12:25] <Madpilot> good night, all
[12:25] <Insipid> cafuego:  okay
[12:25] <cafuego> poningru: jdub and his wife, actually.
[12:25] <poningru> woah
[12:25] <poningru> didnt know you guys lived close
[12:25] <poningru> cya
[12:25] <poningru> have fun
[12:25] <cafuego> We don't :-)
[12:26] <poningru> visiting for ?
[12:26] <cafuego> poningru: They're attending OSDC 2005 for a few days
[12:26] <poningru> ah ic
[12:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> installing the linux-686-smp kernel will keep me up to date with stuff i need
[12:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> *slaps head*
[12:27] <OdeLon> I am getting an error with dpkg now "dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signale (Broken pipe)"
[12:27] <OdeLon> It is trying to install the blt package.
[12:27] <poningru> OdeLon: ?
[12:27] <OdeLon> Yes poningru?
[12:28] <NetGrunt> thanks
[12:28] <NetGrunt> bye
[12:28] <OdeLon> I am running "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop --fix-missing" still got over a gig of stuff to fix :(
[12:28] <poningru> OdeLon: blt package?
[12:28] <poningru> oh
[12:29] <NetGrunt> woop, wrong button
[12:29] <OdeLon> Yeah - blt_2.4z-3ubuntu1_i386.dev
[12:29] <OdeLon> Yeah - blt_2.4z-3ubuntu1_i386.deb
[12:29] <ryan_> thanks poningru
[12:29] <poningru> ryan_: yep
[12:29] <NetGrunt> I have gkrellm2 installed. Every time I click on the "Show Desktop" Icon, it minimizes gkrellm2 as well. Does anybody know how can I prevent that ?
[12:30] <poningru> OdeLon: hmm ic did you build this yourself?
[12:30] <poningru> or where did you download it from?
[12:40] -pone:#ubuntu- Besucht mal unseren neuer Chat: mIRC: /server -m irc.BlueChat.org ||
[12:40] <pone> Besucht mal unser neuer Chat: mIRC: /server -m irc.FreeIRC ||
[12:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> woot
[12:41] <allison_1984> lmms is installed, says so in the synaptics P manager.......why can't I see it ? like a tangible icon to open it ?
[12:41] <christian_> hi all
[12:41] <christian_> a little problem:
[12:41] <christian_> i installed my ubuntu over a pc
[12:41] <poningru> allison_1984: take a look at my previous comment to you
[12:42] <christian_> the i add my old debian disk, i save data and now i want to use this disk as a new data storage unit
[12:42] <fishdish> hmm, anyone intersted ina media center pc?
[12:42] <poningru> fishdish: I am
[12:42] <allison_1984> I didn't see it, got disconnected
[12:43] <poningru> allison_1984: oh just type lmms into a terminal
[12:43] <christian_> but i discover in fstab my cdrom is /dev/hdb and my two old partition over debian disk is /dev/hdb1 and /dev/hdb5. Is it possible?
[12:43] <poningru> christian_: what happend now?
[12:44] <poningru> so you just want to mount your old debian disk?
[12:44] <christian_> Now how to delete the two partition from this disk and use it as a second one-partitioned disk?
[12:45] <poningru> christian_: I dont understand what you are trying to say
[12:45] <christian_> disk manager says this disk is not accessible
[12:45] <fishdish> i got a few P4 630 @ 3.0 GHz/512 RAM @ 400 MHz/ 200 GB SATA hd / dvb -receiver / remote control / boots separately as a DVD player and a computer / license for Win XP Media Center Edition but i'll ship it default with Ubuntu + Windows install CD
[12:45] <christian_> poningru, i want to delete all the partitions in this disk
[12:45] <poningru> sigh
[12:45] <christian_> and create a new one
[12:45] <poningru> fishdish: dont spam here
[12:45] <poningru> especially for win
[12:46] <poningru> christian_: oh ic
[12:46] <Ng> christian_: you can use fdisk or parted to delete/create partitions
[12:46] <fishdish> yeps, but i'm putting uvuntu on them configured as a media centre
[12:46] <fishdish> ubuntu
[12:46] <fishdish> the hard part is the remote control though in configuring the device
[12:47] <fishdish> it's liek an infrared keyboard and i have to write file manually
[12:47] <rixth> Is there anyway to reload xorg.conf without reloading X?
[12:47] <aftertaf> fishdish:  lirc ?
[12:47] <poningru> rixth: no
[12:47] <fishdish> hmm? thanks
[12:47] <aftertaf> !info lirc
[12:47] <ubotu> lirc: (Linux Infra-red Remote Control support), section universe/utils, is extra. Version: 0.7.0.1-1ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 256 kB, Installed size: 1376 kB
[12:48] <christian_> Ng, but doing fdisk /dev/hdb could I have problems (hdb is my cdrom unit)?
[12:48] <kyncani> christian_: gparted and qtparted are more userfriendly than fdisk
[12:48] <poningru> christian_: you may wanna use gparted its a gui for parted
[12:48] <Ng> christian_: yeah, you can't partition a cdrom. fstab could be out of date, but you can run "sudo fdisk -l" to get a list of the current disks/partitions
[12:48] <Ng> christian_: also see what people just said about gparted :)
[12:49] <Ng> gparted will show you the disks, not what fstab thinks the disks are :)
[12:51] <fishdish> ubotu am looking for it's docs
[12:51] <ubotu> fishdish: Bugger all, i dunno
[12:51] <Blaamann> I am helping a friend that 'lost' his sound/audio but I can't find a package that contains alsaconf ?
[12:51] <poningru> !find alsaconf
[12:52] <kyncani> Blaamann: when looking for an uninstalled file, apt-file search is your friend
[12:52] <christian_> ok, thanks Ng poningru kyncani
[12:52] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'alsaconf' returned no results.
[12:52] <drcode> hi all
[12:53] <Starfire> alsaconf doesn't come with ubuntu
[12:53] <drcode> how Can I change from server to workstation , after install server?
[12:53] <Blaamann> Ok, thanks.
[12:53] <kyncani> Starfire: it does, but it's not the package name. And it's not in the package description either
[12:53] <kyncani> Blaamann: see @
[12:53] <kyncani> ^
[12:54] <drcode> how Can I change from server to workstation , after install server??
[12:54] <kyncani> drcode: install ubuntu-desktop ?
[12:55] <drcode> thanx
[12:56] <ryan_> i'm looking for initrc ... would it typically be empty on a fresh installation or have i not found it?
[12:57] <kyncani> Blaamann,Starfire: my bad, it seems alsaconf would come from a debian repository, not a ubuntu package (got some apt-pinning here). My bad
[12:57] <phrocker> morning
[12:58] <Blaamann> kyncani: Which debian repository ?
[12:58] <ryan_> i'm looking for initrc ... would it typically be empty on a fresh installation or have i not found it?
[12:58] <Hoxzer> guess what guys
[12:58] <Blaamann> ....any I guess
[12:58] <Ng> ryan_: initrc?
[12:59] <Ng> ryan_: do you mean a .xinitrd or something to do with init.d maybe?
[12:59] <Ng> ".xinitrc" I mean
[12:59] <ryan_> the file reffereed to in 'man startx'
[12:59] <kyncani> Blaamann: from my apt-pinning conf, testing/main i guess
[12:59] <iLikeSpoons> hey all
[01:00] <ryan_> .xinitrc ... i'm looking to be able to specify a batch file to run after x has loaded
[01:00] <ryan_> but not every time x loads... ie i would pass a command when starting x to tell it to run a certain batch file
[01:00] <kyncani> Blaamann: would come from alsa-utils, but ubuntu's version of alsa-utils does not provide alsaconf
[01:00] <iLikeSpoons> I just got ubuntu and am planning to install it, but I'd like to ask some questions before.
[01:01] <Blaamann> kyncani: Do you know the reason for that ?
[01:02] <kyncani> Blaamann: no idea ..
[01:02] <iLikeSpoons> now, I've been using slackware for somw time now, but am still a newbie at all of this.
[01:02] <eth42> for some reason, i cannot install ubuntu 5.10 (original install cd from shipit.ubuntulinux.org). it cannot install kernel-386 (btw, i wasn't offered any other kernels). It says that I shall look for /target/var/log/bootstrap.log for details, but there is no such file.
[01:03] <poningru> eth42: when does it stop?
[01:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> eth42: look on vc4
[01:04] <eth42> poningru: what do you mean? it just says that it couldn't install it... <shrug>
[01:04] <eth42> Kamping_Kaiser: ok, thanks
[01:05] <eth42> should there be other kernels offered than linux-386, linux-image-386 and linux-image-2.6.12-9-386?
[01:05] <bluefrog-10> eth42, not on the disk, on internet yes
[01:06] <eth42> ok
[01:06] <Hoxzer> where is Nvidia driver configure file located?
[01:08] <eth42> now I've choosen linux-image-2.6.12-9-386 instead of linux-386, and it worked. strange, strange, strange
[01:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> you network installing?
[01:08] <ryan_> .i'm looking to be able to specify a batch file to run after x has loaded
[01:08] <Nolite> hi all
[01:08] <poningru> eth42: you were supposed to just press enter
[01:08] <eth42> Kamping_Kaiser: no, the official (= pressed) install cd
[01:08] <ryan_> but not every time x loads... ie i would pass a command when starting x to tell it to run a certain batch file
[01:08] <poningru> not type enything
[01:09] <eth42> poningru: I got a chooser. is that wrong?
[01:09] <poningru> ryan_: you mean bash
[01:09] <eth42> poningru: when I just pressed enter, I got the errors
[01:09] <Nolite> if beeing in home directory as user in the terminal, why can't i open a folder using "cd /foldername/" it replies with "folder does not exist"
[01:09] <poningru> eth42: um yeah what do you mean a chooser?
[01:09] <DrgbLGS> hi everyone, does anyone knoiw how to change colors to the menu "application" "places" and "system"?
[01:09] <ryan_> poningru: well... i want it to run a set of commands after it loads... like a .bat batch file in dos/windows
[01:09] <eViL_> PPL please help me out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=545657
[01:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> Nolite: don't start with the /
[01:09] <Nolite> Kamping_Kaiser, ok...
[01:09] <yatesy> Nolite: because you've specified an absolute path
[01:09] <poningru> ryan_: that would be a .sh file
[01:10] <eth42> a choose-list between linux-386, linux-image-386 and linux-image-2.6.12-9-386
[01:10] <_native_> w00t! fluxbox is my new home.
[01:10] <Nolite> Kamping_Kaiser, d'oh! :) thanks
[01:10] <DrgbLGS> hi everyone, does anyone know how to change colors to the menu "application" "places" and "system"?        (sorry for quoting myself)
[01:10] <Nolite> yatesy, allright, thanks
[01:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> Nolite: if you say /directory, the shell looks in your / directory for `directory`
[01:10] <Nolite> Kamping_Kaiser, ah... :p
[01:11] <ryan_> poningru: okay... is it possible to make X load one of this after it starts up... but not every time? I mean only when I specify it (for example at the command line startx 'command.sh' or such)
[01:11] <DrgbLGS> hi everyone, does anyone know how to change colors to the menu "application" "places" and "system"?        (is no one reading this?)
[01:11] <jess> anyone know how to make OpenOffice2 launch from wine by associating it with .doc files?
[01:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> DrgbLGS: don't spam your question please
[01:11] <yatesy> DrgbLGS: do you know how to repeat?
[01:11] <yatesy> DrgbLGS: do you know how to repeat?
[01:11] <yatesy> DrgbLGS: do you know how to repeat?
[01:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> yatesy: pls don't :(
[01:11] <eth42> there are root passwords in 5.10??
[01:11] <DrgbLGS> Kamping_Kaiser, i'm just trying to catch attention
[01:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> jess: pardon?
[01:12] <eth42> I thought Ubuntu didn't want to have active root accounts
[01:12] <bluefrog-10> eth42, no use sudo
[01:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> DrgbLGS: yeh, but if no one knows, asking ever 2 minutes doesnt help
[01:12] <bluefrog-10> eth42, u are in expert mode correct
[01:12] <eViL_> PPL please help me out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=545657
[01:12] <DrgbLGS> Kamping_Kaiser, i don't think no one knows how to change some colours
[01:12] <_native_> any binrev listeners?
[01:12] <eth42> bluefrog-10: uhuh, don't know
[01:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> eth42: if you leave it blank, it disables the apssword
[01:12] <Xamusk> anyone here has used ubuntu as an LTSP server/client?
[01:12] <eth42> never chose to be in expert mode
[01:12] <Stuple> Hi
[01:12] <bluefrog-10> eth42, if it asks for root password  u must be in expert mode install
[01:12] <derek[] > hallo anna
[01:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> DrgbLGS: awake people don't know
[01:13] <derek[] > anna, wie gehts es dir?
[01:13] <bluefrog-10> Xamusk, ye
[01:13] <anna> hello derek (=
[01:13] <ryan_> poningru have you any idea?
[01:13] <DrgbLGS> Kamping_Kaiser, what about asleep ppl?
[01:13] <eth42> bluefrog-10: ok, cool, something's very strange here :-)
[01:13] <Stuple> i have a question
[01:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> DrgbLGS: they may know, but cant tell you ;)
[01:13] <anna> woher weisst du, dass ich deutsch spreche?
[01:13] <derek[] > anna, :) ..I weisse
[01:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> !de
[01:13] <ubotu> hmm... de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[01:13] <DrgbLGS> :D thx very much guys, i'll try to right click every menu other 6 or 7 times
[01:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> bitte ;)
[01:13] <derek[] > anna, Ich*
[01:13] <bluefrog-10> anna, #ubuntu-de
[01:14] <_native_> l
[01:14] <anna> okay ;)
[01:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> Stuple: ask away
[01:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> Xamusk: not per se
[01:14] <Stuple> if i have the live version of ubuntu
[01:14] <eth42> thanks, people. bye!
[01:14] <Xamusk> bluefrog-10, I'm having an issue in which the client, during boot-time, overwrites the xorg.conf file that I set and also doesn't load the settings I put in lts.conf... this effectually disables my mouse (it's serial, but tries to load a PS/2 one). Do you know what's happening?
[01:14] <Stuple> and install it, what is my root password
[01:15] <OdeLon> poningru: Sorry for the delay - I didn't build this - it is part of the official iso
[01:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> Stuple: there isnt one
[01:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> use sudo
[01:15] <Stuple> sudo?!
[01:15] <Stuple> what's that
[01:15] <_native_> is border snapping possible with fluxbox
[01:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell Stuple about sudo
[01:15] <_native_> ?
[01:15] <anna> derek, do you have any idea how to connect my mobile phone (sonyericcson) with ubunti?
[01:15] <bluefrog-10> Xamusk, paste your lts.conf to pastebin.com
[01:15] <anna> ubuntu
[01:16] <derek[] > anna, you mean access GPRS?
[01:16] <Stuple> also...
[01:16] <Stuple> i have downloaded the DVD version of ubuntu
[01:16] <Stuple> is she live only?
[01:16] <anna> erm.. no.. i have a usb cable and i dont know, how to view my photos ;)
[01:17] <derek[] > anna, I think you need the linux driver for that cable
[01:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> Stuple: not sure, i think it can install
[01:17] <anna> (sorry, my english isnt that good)
[01:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> but i havent used it
[01:17] <Xamusk> bluefrog-10, http://pastebin.com/449460
[01:17] <anna> hm.. i searched in google for hours and i didnt find anything..
[01:18] <derek[] > anna, may be ubuntu could auto-install it..
[01:18] <bluefrog-10> Xamusk, lts.conf seems ok
[01:18] <derek[] > anna, type:  /join #ubuntu-de
[01:18] <Xamusk> actually, some script sees the client xorg.conf, backups it, and replaces it with another from some obscure place I haven't found yet
[01:18] <Stuple> yes I install it but is it ok to use it...
[01:18] <bluefrog-10> Xamusk, don,t remember where u are supposed to put customised xorg.conf, refresh my mind pls.
[01:18] <Stuple> is it better to get the Cd version
[01:18] <Ng> anna: which sonyericsson is it? newer ones (e.g. a k750) will be automatically mounted when you plug them in
[01:18] <rudiz> is there a irc #ubuntu-dev channel?
[01:19] <derek[] > eth42, Hallo. Konnen Sie hilfen anna?
[01:19] <eth42> uh?
[01:19] <eth42> what?
[01:19] <derek[] > eth, in Deutsch
[01:19] <Xamusk> bluefrog-10, oh, I just put it in the client rootdir, but it isn't being used
[01:19] <eth42> why, there is #ubuntu-de?
[01:19] <anna> oh sorry..
[01:19] <bluefrog-10> Xamusk, am not sure this is the place
[01:20] <anna> but people in ubuntu .de arent that helpful ;)
[01:20] <anna> usually..
[01:20] <rudiz> anna, sie sollen nach #ubuntu-de gehen
[01:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> how many people in there anna?
[01:20] <derek[] > 90 Kamping_Kaiser
[01:20] <gimmulf> Hi, how do i upload an directory using ftp in terminal, put -R ? :)
[01:20] <eth42> anna: and why don't you ask your question here, in english?
[01:21] <anna> eth42 , i tried ;)
[01:21] <eth42> try again
[01:21] <Xamusk> bluefrog-10, nor am I... there's also a XF86CONFIG_FILE parameter in lts.conf... haven't used it yes, as it seems that the lts.conf isn't useful
[01:21] <rudiz> anna was wolst du wissen?
[01:21] <anna> i just want to connect my phone (sonyericsson) with ubuntu
[01:21] <eth42> anna: no idea how that works
[01:21] <anna> rudiz: ob es vielleicht einen treiber fr das handy gibt..
[01:22] <rudiz> ich weisz das nicht
[01:22] <Nolite> what program can I use to edit setting (text) files in Ubuntu as ROOT with?
[01:22] <freemanen> is there possible to see a word list in aspell
[01:22] <anna> okay, danke trotzdem ;)
[01:22] <derek[] > anna, did you try plugging in your phone?
[01:22] <Nolite> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=99149 <-- I have similair problem but want to increase my vertical refresh rate and cannot do this without managing to edit this file it seems
[01:22] <eth42> anna: have you ever read that your phone should work with linux? (then it will also work with ubuntu)
[01:23] <Ng> anna: which sonyericsson is it? newer ones (e.g. a k750) will be automatically mounted when you plug them in
[01:23] <rudiz> anna is asking how to connect a a mobile phone to pc
[01:23] <chrisx1> hey i go to install xfce and i mak all for iunstall and it saysd make sure u have all the repos... anyideas?
[01:23] <anna> jes, i did connect it, but it didnt work..
[01:23] <eth42> after the first reboot after installation there is a window "Installing packages" Preparing for installation... 0%. and it's there for 5 minutes now... erm.... how do I get it started?
[01:24] <anna> it is the new one 750i
[01:24] <bluefrog-10> Xamusk, sry won't be able to help u right now as my ltsp server is down (major network reinstall/onfig) have a go at #edubuntu
[01:24] <anna> maybe it is mounted, and im simply too stupid ;)
[01:24] <anna> cause im totally new to linux..#
[01:24] <derek[] > anna, do "mount"
[01:24] <Ng> anna: check System->Preferences->Removeable Drives and Media - go to the camera tab and make sure the option to import photos is turned on
[01:24] <derek[] > anna, vielleicht "sudo mount"
[01:24] <freemanen> is it possible to se the aspell word list?
[01:24] <chrisx1> hey i go to install xfce and i mark all for install and it says make sure u have all the repos... anyideas?
[01:25] <derek[] > anna, and tell what output you get
[01:25] <Ng> anna: I have a k750i and it gets mounted fine when I plug it in
[01:25] <Xamusk> bluefrog-10, thanks
[01:25] <anna> okay, ill try that
[01:25] <eth42> anna: open a terminal and type "mount". it will give you a list of mounted partitions and media
[01:25] <anna> oh
[01:25] <anna> but how do you get the fotos etc?
[01:25] <derek[] > anna, and paste the output here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/
[01:26] <anna> /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[01:26] <anna> proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[01:26] <anna> sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)
[01:26] <anna> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[01:26] <anna> tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[01:26] <anna> usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[01:26] <anna> tmpfs on /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[01:26] <anna> tmpfs on /dev type tmpfs (rw,size=10M,mode=0755)
[01:26] <anna> /dev/hdc on /media/cdrom1 type iso9660 (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,user=anna)
[01:26] <anna> /dev/sda1 on /media/sda1 type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=winnt,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[01:26] <chrisx1> lmfao
[01:26] <derek[] > oh man
[01:26] <anna> oh.. i understand nothing (=
[01:26] <derek[] > anna, don't paste such large text in the channel
[01:26] <chrisx1> hey i go to install xfce and i mark all for install and it says make sure u have all the repos... anyideas?
[01:26] <anna> okay, sorry
[01:27] <derek[] > anna, use this : http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/
[01:27] <derek[] > I think this is it: usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[01:27] <Ng> nope
[01:27] <gimmulf> Hi, how do i upload an directory using ftp in terminal, put -R ? :)
[01:27] <derek[] > anna, do you have your phone plugged now while you ran that command?
[01:27] <Ng> it's the media/sda1 one
[01:27] <anna> yes
[01:27] <odin> Does anyone know of a music player like amarok that doesn't use kde-libs?
[01:28] <chrisx1> xmms?
[01:28] <Nolite> what program can I use to edit setting (text) files in Ubuntu as ROOT with?
[01:28] <derek[] > anna, ok do this: cd /media/sda1
[01:28] <derek[] > anna, then: ls -a
[01:28] <chrisx1> Nolite, sudo gedit
[01:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> hey Hobbsee
[01:28] <anna> okay, can i paste the output here? its just small ;)
[01:28] <Ng> derek[] : the pictures will be in a directory called DCIM, but really she should check the preferences because gthumb ought to offer to import the photos when you plug it in
[01:28] <Nolite> chrisx1, allright, is that a package I can download through Synaptics?
[01:29] <derek[] > Ng, tell her:)
[01:29] <chrisx1> Nolite, just go to terminal and type that in
[01:29] <Ng> derek[] : I have *shrug*
[01:29] <Nolite> chrisx1, ah... ok *checking it out*
[01:29] <anna> oh sorry Ng, i just saw what you wrote ;)
[01:29] <chrisx1> Nolite,:)
[01:30] <derek[] > Ng, sudo should solve it?
[01:30] <pl_ice> hey
[01:30] <derek[] > anna, in the output do you see DCIM ?
[01:30] <anna> nope..
[01:30] <Ng> derek[] : I wouldn't have thought so, but I dunno
[01:31] <chrisx1> Nolite, did it work?
[01:31] <Ng> it could be that the media/sda1 is some other kind of USB device maybe
[01:31] <anna> may i paste the output here derek[]  ?
[01:31] <pl_ice> any one uses xmms with plugin ? :)
[01:31] <yatesy> anna: no use a pastebin
[01:31] <kyncani> anna: no, if you must paste, paste to #flood
[01:31] <wickedpuppy> anna, pastebin pls
[01:31] <pl_ice> !pastebin
[01:31] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[01:31] <derek[] > anna, I wouldn't recommend it
[01:31] <anna> sorry, i dont kno.. what is pastebin?
[01:31] <wickedpuppy> pl_ice, what plugin ? i use xmms ... i find no need for any plugin though
[01:32] <anna> know
[01:32] <wickedpuppy> anna, read ubotu above
[01:32] <derek[] > anna, open this in mozilla firefox: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl   , paste the output in the textbox ,  and click Send. Copy the URL of the next page and paste here.
[01:32] <pl_ice> for my bloody keboard control iTouch each time i turn the plug on, xmms shuts down...
[01:33] <wickedpuppy> pl_ice, eh ah .... hmms ... no idea :P
[01:33] <Nolite> chrisx1, yes... I've managed to edit the file, xorg.conf
[01:33] <gimmulf> Not anyone in here who knows how to copy directorys to ftp using "ftp" in terminal?
[01:33] <gimmulf> for files it's just put file
[01:33] <pl_ice> yeh, not sure eh
[01:33] <Nolite> chrisx1, altough I cannot change the vertical refreshrate as intended, maybe I have to update the file in some kind of way :p
[01:34] <wickedpuppy> Nolite, when you save , you got error message ?
[01:34] <derek[] > For some reason I'm not anymore able to type tilde.. whether with pressing shift or without it, only `, after I installed other input modes in linux. Why is that?
[01:34] <Nolite> nope
[01:34] <kyncani> gimmulf: use a higher-level ftp app, like gftp for example
[01:34] <anna> derek[]  , i was wrong, there is something calles DCIM ;)
[01:35] <anna> i did not see it in the beginning
[01:35] <Nolite> chrisx1, it was 43-60hz I changed it to 60-85Hz (as 85 is what I normally use) but it only shows 60 as an option under ScreenResolution
[01:35] <derek[] > anna, then do this: cd DCIM , then: ls -a
[01:35] <gimmulf> kyncani:  i only have access thru shell right now
[01:35] <Nolite> chrisx1, it's the file system/etc/x11/xorg.conf
[01:35] <anna> hm that doesnt work..
[01:35] <ryan_> hello all.. my dns servers are forgotten every time i restart the computer.. any ideas?
[01:36] <kyncani> gimmulf: well, look for higher-level console ftp
[01:36] <anna> the terminal gives an error message
[01:36] <gimmulf> kyncani:  suggestion? :)
[01:36] <kyncani> gimmulf: nope, sorry :(
[01:36] <derek[] > anna, then do: sudo -i  , (type in the password if it asks  you), then: cd DCIM , then: ls -a
[01:37] <maffju> anna, i think it's easier if you click "Places" (or "Orte"), then choose "sda1", then you should see a folder DCIM ...
[01:37] <chrisx1> Nolite, gotta ring someone be back in a sec
[01:37] <Nolite> chrisx1, maybe I do something wrong in gedit? I login, open the file, alter the line and hit the Save button and then close the gedit window, is it something else I should do?
[01:37] <anna> yes, there is a folder called DCIM, but i cant open it..
[01:37] <Nolite> chrisx1, sure, appreciate any help
[01:37] <kyncani> gimmulf: thinking of it, wget could do it
[01:37] <wickedpuppy> anna, what error you got ?
[01:38] <pl_ice> hey, any one uses xmms +iTouch plugin for keyboard?
[01:38] <ryan_> hello all.. my dns servers are forgotten every time i restart the computer.. any ideas?
[01:38] <shadukan> hello ppl
[01:39] <anna> erm it say: "No such file or directory"
[01:39] <shadukan> i am happy to set i set up a full functional dhcp/tftp install of ubuntu in my desktop
[01:39] <wickedpuppy> anna, then there is no such directory as DCIM
[01:39] <shadukan> and i can boot ubuntu using pxe client of the laptop
[01:39] <kbrooks> Is it possible to zero out a file
[01:39] <shadukan> the kernel is booting and the program start the installation
[01:39] <shadukan> i have thow a problem
[01:39] <SEJeff> kbrooks: Type this: > filename
[01:40] <SEJeff> kbrooks: That will z out a file
[01:40] <shadukan> the damn cannot find the nfs exported images to install
[01:40] <anna> wickedpuppy but there has to be. i can see it ;)
[01:40] <anna> promise
[01:40] <shadukan> any suggestions?
[01:40] <wickedpuppy> anna, can you do ls -l .. paste the output on the pastebin ?
[01:40] <shadukan> but i tried and saw that the export is done successfully....
[01:40] <derek[] > anna, do: sudo cd /media/sda1/DCIM , then: ls -a
[01:41] <kbrooks> no.
[01:41] <shadukan> any suggestions???
[01:41] <kbrooks> SEJeff, lets just say ubuntu uses ext2 now
[01:41] <anna> derek[]  it says command not found :/
[01:41] <kbrooks> its possible to recover filename
[01:41] <derek[] > anna, then just do 'sudo' first
[01:42] <anna> but im allredy root..
[01:42] <derek[] > anna, sorry, 'sudo -i'
[01:42] <derek[] > anna, oh
[01:42] <derek[] > weird
[01:42] <anna> okay, im totally confused ^^
[01:42] <derek[] > anna, do: ls -a /media/sda1
[01:43] <derek[] > anna, and  please learn to use the pastebin, (I told you how). It will be useful.
[01:43] <pl_ice> hey, u guys know how to setup gnome to show random pic as desktop backgrd ? kde has this...
[01:44] <anna> wickedpuppy http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5414 this should be the link..
[01:44] <gib8> hi
[01:44] <shadukan> try xscreensaver....
[01:45] <wickedpuppy> anna, i only see debootstrap_settings ...
[01:45] <wickedpuppy> where is DCIM ?
[01:45] <maffju> anna, you are in /root
[01:45] <taga123> :)
[01:45] <gib8> i read that u can use the num-lock leds for showing networktraffic, is this also possible to show if there is some r/w onto the hd? becouse on laptop i see this and on my workstation i have to knee down to take a look on the lamp when it lags ;)
[01:45] <maffju> anna type: cd /media/sda1/DCIM
[01:45] <derek[] > I told her to cd into the directory so many times
[01:46] <maffju> derek[] , i know ;)
[01:46] <anna>  derek[]   http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5415
[01:46] <pl_ice> xscreensaver is a screen saver ... :/
[01:46] <anna> im sorry ;(
[01:46] <wickedpuppy> well there is DCIM alright
[01:47] <wickedpuppy> derek[] , pls take things easy :P she seems to be very new to linux
[01:47] <derek[] > anna, ok. Now do this: ls -a /media/sda1/DCIM
[01:47] <shadukan> pl_ice: but it has configuration utility...;p
[01:47] <derek[] > wickedpuppy, ;)
[01:47] <pl_ice> c'mon we love linux chicks :D
[01:47] <pl_ice> shadukan ok, will look at it :D
[01:47] <wickedpuppy> how she got root is mystery ... i volunteer to spank the guy who taught how to use root to a newbie
[01:48] <derek[] > wickedpuppy, there's a link to it in the menu
[01:48] <pl_ice> cracker chick :/ even better
[01:48] <anna> derek[]  , sorry, that doesnt work..  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5416
[01:49] <hns> cannot load XkbLayout "us_intl", only us, anyone any idea
[01:49] <anna> wickedpuppy im afraid myself.. i think you can damage many thing, when you are root and dont know what you do ..
[01:50] <derek[] > anna, hm. I don't understand that, sorry
[01:50] <maffju> anna, oops, that looks bad
[01:50] <maffju> anna, are the batteries ok?
[01:50] <TD|Gaute> anna: I'll spank you if you want ;-)
[01:50] <Insipid> oh god..
[01:50] <anna> what does spank mean?
[01:50] <taga123> be  gentel
[01:50] <taga123> gentle
[01:50] <eth42> Has anyone got problems with cdrecord (or any program which uses it, i.e. any cd burning problem)? I cannot set the speed manually. It always uses the max speed.
[01:50] <anna> batterys are okay, yes..
[01:50] <derek[] > anna, nevermind that
[01:51] <TD|Gaute> Anyone here with a widescreen monitor? Is it easy to configure with Ubuntu 5.10 (1280x768)?
[01:51] <derek[] > eth42, use xcdroast.. or smth like that
[01:51] <maffju> anna, i think it's best to reconnect the phone - i once had a similar problem
[01:51] <pl_ice> eth42 k3b? ...
[01:51] <Ng> TD|Gaute: you may need to edit the xorg.conf, but it should be fairly easy
[01:51] <czr> hello, a quick question, are there any ppl working here with kickstart?
[01:51] <derek[] > TD|Gaute, I've heard ubuntu works well on a wide screen
[01:51] <Ng> TD|Gaute: I know a couple of people with 1680x1050 monitors and they did it very easily
[01:51] <TD|Gaute> Ng, manually? Just add the resolution?
[01:52] <Ng> TD|Gaute: in theory, yes, X ought to be able to figure out the details for itself
[01:52] <eth42> pl_ice: yes, i first encountered the problems with k3b.
[01:52] <Ng> you very rarely need to write a full manual modeline these days
[01:52] <anna> maffju should i just pull the cable and the connect it again?
[01:52] <pl_ice> eth42 but when u press 'refresh' in k3b it's ok, u can set i manualy, that whats happens to me
[01:52] <TD|Gaute> OK. Cool. I'm trying to find a silent desktop to use with my LCD TV :-)
[01:52] <eth42> pl_ice: refresh?
[01:52] <allison_1984> anna > plug in your line and restart the puter
[01:53] <Ng> TD|Gaute: EPIA systems are quite nifty, very small and quiet
[01:53] <maffju> anna, first type: umount /media/sda1
[01:53] <maffju> anna, then pull the cable and reconnect
[01:53] <Ng> TD|Gaute: i have an EPIA M10000 next to my tv for playing movies and browsing the web and stuff :)
[01:53] <TD|Gaute> Ng, I'll probably build my own out of some old stuff at work.
[01:53] <pl_ice> eth42 just before u burn the cd, there is a podown where u can chose the speed, next to it is a blue'arrow' that's to refresh, it's gonna determine cd
[01:53] <pl_ice> cd's speed
[01:53] <Insipid> my comps run like monsters
[01:54] <TD|Gaute> I just want it for internet banking and mail.
[01:54] <eth42> pl_ice: I see.
[01:54] <anna> maffju, i dont want to be root ;) can you tell me how to stop beeing root?
[01:54] <eth42> pl_ice: But I can actually choose 1x, for example
[01:54] <maffju> anna, type: exit
[01:54] <maffju> anna, or STRG-D
[01:54] <Insipid> somebody did read the beginners guide to linux
[01:54] <Insipid> didnt
[01:54] <anna> thank you ;)
[01:54] <eth42> pl_ice: it then says that either the burner or the media doesn't support 1x (!!) and it therefore has to burn at 8x (which is the media's max speed)
[01:55] <Xamusk> how much "stable" are dapper's iso?
[01:55] <pl_ice> hm, strange :D maybe ur cd's are buggered
[01:55] <eth42> pl_ice: and this results in errors. :-(
[01:55] <BigKahuna> Anybody using the V4L driver with ubuntu?
[01:55] <anna> maffju okay i just reconnected the phone..
[01:55] <eth42> BigKahuna: is there *the* V4L driver? I thought it's a library...
[01:55] <maffju> anna, try again: ls /media/sda1/DCIM
[01:56] <pl_ice> eth42 have u tried with other blank cd's?
[01:56] <anna> okay, it says directory not found..
[01:56] <dcs> how to use fetchmail to get mail from a maildrop box
[01:56] <Insipid> what anna needs to realize is that it is case sentitive
[01:56] <derek[] > anna, do: mount  , and paste the output
[01:56] <derek[] > anna, not here ;)
[01:56] <eth42> pl_ice: yes, with blank cd-r, cd-rw, dvd-r, dvd-rw, dvd+r, .... do you think I should try dvd+rw? :-)
[01:57] <BigKahuna> eth42, Actually, that what I was hoping someone could explain for me.
[01:57] <dcs> how to find help for fetchmail
[01:57] <eth42> BigKahuna: I think V4L is a library, and drivers (e.g. for tv-cards or webcams) are written compliant to that library
[01:57] <pl_ice> um, i guess not, often i got back packet of dvd's but if u tried so many; not sure hey; hm, other programs show the same? there is nero for linux 'floating' around u can try that
[01:57] <dcs> is there any body who knows about fetchmail
[01:58] <anna> derek[]   http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5417 ;)
[01:58] <derek[] > anna, are you sure you're typing DCIM , and not dcim ?
[01:58] <derek[] > anna, ok
[01:58] <Insipid> derek[] :  I already said that :)
[01:58] <derek[] > Insipid, yes, but not to her directly :)
[01:58] <BigKahuna> eth42, I have been tinkering with my PVR card and finally have it working with the IVTV driver. Then I here about V4L, all I can figure out from the official wiki is that it is an API. Which doesnt really help me.
[01:58] <anna> yes, im not typing anything, i just copy what you write..
[01:58] <eth42> pl_ice: yes, I think it is a bug in Ubuntu's cdrecord. But probably it's only with my drive... *shrug*
[01:58] <derek[] > anna, ok
[01:59] <eth42> BigKahuna: haven't you found any tutorial for your PVR card?
[01:59] <GaveUp> hey guys.  I've got a intel 2200bg wifi adapter in my laptop and I'm trying to setup ubuntu to connect to my ap that uses wpa2-psk tkip but following some forum posts i keep getting driver doesn't support messages...anyone have any ideas what i'm doing wrong?
[01:59] <eth42> BigKahuna: and what's IVTV?
[01:59] <pl_ice> eth42 don't worry lately i can't open movies i burn nor burn over 4.2 gigs dvd's thats life :D
[01:59] <poningru> so question regarding md5sum how does one get the md5sum of couple of words?
[01:59] <derek[] > hm.. anna, your phone is not mounted
[02:00] <eth42> pl_ice: hey, it's almost 2006 now and I cannot choose the burners speed, that's weird!
[02:00] <Insipid> she should read the mount man page
[02:00] <anna> derek[]  if you say so =^_^=
[02:00] <eth42> BigKahuna: maybe your IVTV is a V4L driver?
[02:00] <pl_ice>  hehe
[02:00] <BigKahuna> eth42, Yes I found a HowTo, IVTV project to develop drivers specifically for my type of PVR card (hauppauge).
[02:00] <derek[] > anna, last time it was
[02:01] <derek[] > anna, under /media/sda1
[02:01] <pl_ice> u guys konow where is taht setting for xscreensaver to put random desktop backgrounds?
[02:01] <anna> sometimes i think, linux is to difficult for me..
[02:01] <pl_ice> anna u not alone :) first steps are the worst
[02:01] <eth42> BigKahuna: ivtvdriver.org?
[02:01] <Insipid> anna:  Why are you using it?
[02:01] <derek[] > anna, nevertheless, don't get discouraged
[02:01] <Insipid> I honestly think if she isnt going to RTFM then she should go back to windows or OSX
[02:02] <anna> Insipid because i like it, i like the idea behind ubuntu
[02:02] <derek[] > anna, great!!
[02:02] <anna> derek[]  thank you ;)
[02:02] <BigKahuna> eth42, Yah
[02:02] <derek[] > Bitte! ;)
[02:02] <maffju> anna, do you see sda1 if you click "places"/"orte" > "Computer"?
[02:02] <eth42> BigKahuna: maybe entering Load "v4l" into your /etc/X11/xorg.conf already helps
[02:02] <rudiz> anna, ubuntu ist super!
[02:03] <julo> hi
[02:03] <pl_ice> english ...
[02:03] <anna> erm.. there is "sony ericsson memory stick"
[02:03] <eth42> BigKahuna: v4l should already be compiled into Ubuntu's kernel I guess
[02:03] <czr> hmm, anyone know about using kickstart with ubuntu?
[02:03] <eth42> BigKahuna: at least I seem to use it
[02:03] <maffju> anna, right-click and select "mount" (if it's there)
[02:03] <anna> rudiz yes, and its free.. unlike windows..
[02:03] <anna> okay.
[02:03] <eth42> BigKahuna: (Hauppauge analogous tv-card)
[02:03] <maffju> anna, try to double-click it
[02:04] <julo> Could anyone do a simple test for me ? -> launch alacarte, uncheck gedit, right-click on a text file, choose "open in another app", and see whether gedit is listed in the apps list.
[02:04] <BigKahuna> eth42, Yup, thats what Im using.
[02:04] <julo> thanks
[02:04] <eth42> BigKahuna: what's your problem now? the driver is loaded
[02:04] <BigKahuna> I guess the IVTV driver must need the V4l api? just guessing.
[02:04] <eth42> BigKahuna: I think it already uses it
[02:05] <maffju> anna, any errors?
[02:05] <eth42> BigKahuna: does lsmod list your ivtv driver?
[02:05] <anna> maffju there was no mount-button but (in german "einbinden") i could integrate it
[02:05] <maffju> anna, can you enter the DCIM folder?
[02:06] <BigKahuna> eth42, Yes.
[02:06] <Insipid> anna: yes integrate it
[02:06] <anna> maffju yes
[02:06] <maffju> anna, see your pictures?
[02:06] <anna> no..
[02:06] <anna> but i do have pictures on the phone ;)
[02:06] <Insipid> nothing is in the directory at all?
[02:06] <maffju> anna, the DCIM folder is empty?
[02:07] <anna> yes
[02:07] <eth42> so, I think now you can use your card. As the howto tells: use ptune-ui or ivtv-tune to tune the channel and cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg
[02:07] <Insipid> maffju: Directory!!! :)
[02:07] <eth42> BigKahuna: so, I think now you can use your card. As the howto tells: use ptune-ui or ivtv-tune to tune the channel and cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg
[02:07] <maffju> Insipid, sorry ;)
[02:07] <chrisx1> hey i go to install xfce and i mark all for install and it says make sure u have all the repos... anyideas?
[02:07] <Insipid> the world folder brings back bad memories
[02:07] <BigKahuna> eth42, Yeah thanks.
[02:08] <eth42> BigKahuna: cool!
[02:09] <anna> maffju could it be possible, that i just saved the pictures in the wrong place?
[02:10] <feg> hello, i cant hear anything with flash plugin on breezy
[02:10] <rudiz> anna, look at the desktop
[02:10] <feg> is it a known prob?
[02:10] <maffju> anna, sorry, i don't know anything about your mobile phone...
[02:10] <pl_ice> u guys know how to throw randowm picture on desktop background?
[02:10] <BigKahuna> eth42, Last question, just tried to install MoTV. When I try and run the application it says a library is missing. Should all the dependencies not have been checked before installing, I used apt.
[02:10] <anna> maffju oops.. sorry, i thought you got the same ;)
[02:11] <Insipid> maffju: gnu/linux is getting too user friendly :)
[02:11] <maffju> anna, unfortunately not ;)
[02:11] <anna> rudiz sorry, i dont get what you mean ..
[02:11] <maffju> Insipid, ;)
[02:12] <Insipid> maffju:  I remember when someone told me about linux years ago and i installed debian for the first time... WOW.. so many nights spent reading man pages...
[02:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> wow. that's a slpit
[02:12] <pl_ice> server split :D
[02:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> whao
[02:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> wb all
[02:12] <rudiz> anna,http://www.ubuntuusers.de/
[02:12] <aftertaf> manyeah....................
[02:12] <chrisx1> hey i go to install xfce and i mark all for install and it says make sure u have all the repos... anyideas?
[02:13] <pl_ice> chrisx1 run apt-get install it will tell u more info ...
[02:13] <chrisx1> ok
[02:13] <aftertaf> chrisx1:  compare your repos to the official ones, do you have all enabled?
[02:13] <aftertaf> !repos
[02:13] <ubotu> repos is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[02:13] <chrisx1> will in a sec
[02:13] !lilo:*! Small main rotation server routing problem; affected users, about 2,400.... we're looking at it now.
[02:13] <chrisx1> on phone
[02:13] <anna> rudiz okay, but i know this site.. what do you want me to do? ;)
[02:13] <taga123> wow
[02:13] <taga123> is  that  a meteor   falling
[02:13] <rudiz> put your question there
[02:14] <Insipid> anyone here big on nvidia?
[02:14] <aftertaf> !nvidia
[02:14] <ubotu> I guess nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[02:14] <Insipid> dont even give me that **** link
[02:14] <_mindspin> anna: what's your question?
[02:14] <Insipid> im tried of reading it :)
[02:14] <christian_> now, i formatted my new disk... how can i add it into resources menu?
[02:14] <pl_ice> Insipid what card u got?
[02:15] <Insipid> nvidia geforce 5200 pci
[02:15] <anna> _mindspin how to get the pictures of my mobile phone via usb cable ;)
[02:15] <_mindspin> on hoary or breezy?
[02:15] <anna> rudiz okay.. but i have to register..
[02:15] <Insipid> running the latest nvidia package.. installed and working correctly... except it performs worse than a geforce 2 mx
[02:15] <pl_ice> :D
[02:15] <pl_ice> what's ur fps?
[02:16] <gib8> Insipid, hi is yours usb working?
[02:16] <Insipid> my geforce 2 mx ran ut2004 on debian with 30 fps... my 5200 is about 8 fps when im staring at a wall
[02:16] <gib8> Insipid, and do u have an nvidia,nforce based mainboard?
[02:16] <pl_ice> hey, it should be in thousands ...
[02:16] <Insipid> VIA
[02:16] <Insipid> pl_ice: wtf are you smoking
[02:17] <pl_ice> fps, 8 i when u don't have drivers correctly
[02:17] <rudiz> annano
[02:17] <gib8> mhh
[02:17] <pl_ice> *is
[02:17] <rudiz> anna, no
[02:17] <aitor> hola
[02:17] <aitor> alguien con guadalinex v3 beta2 ????? please
[02:18] <Insipid> pl_ice:  ut2004 is much more complicated than glxgears.. its not going to run 1000 fps on even the most godly machines.. you want my glxgears fps which is not a benchmark
[02:18] <pl_ice> yeh, pretty muc
[02:18] <pl_ice> *much
[02:18] <Insipid> pl_ice: it should be running 40 frames per second in deep action
[02:18] <Insipid> with high settings
[02:19] <pl_ice> Insipid did u post it on the forum?
[02:19] <Insipid> and YES i know for an absolute fact the drivers are installed correctly :)  something may be configured wrong, but its nothing as obvious as #Load DRI so i dont wanna see that please
[02:19] <Insipid> no ive seen someone else do it any not get answered why should i
[02:20] <pl_ice> Insipid , try it, someone will, if not jump to #linux
[02:20] <Insipid> ill probably just go back debian
[02:20] <gudi> gi
[02:20] <gudi> hi
[02:20] <pl_ice> Insipid glad i don't play games ;)
[02:21] <derek[] > how to get the list of running applications?
[02:21] <feg> hi, im using breezy. i have no sound with flash plugin in firefox. can you help e please?
[02:22] <BigKahuna> when launching an application (MOTV) i get en error saying a library does not exist (
[02:22] <BigKahuna> libXm.so.3) but I can see the library in /usr/XR11R6/lib. Any ideas?
[02:22] <Insipid> pl_ice:  hell in debian when i recompiled my kernel, and use the nvidia kernel module it ran great on a geforce 2..
[02:22] <Insipid> ubuntu is so fing automated i dont even know where to begin looking for conflicts
[02:22] <kestas> for some reason Im not getting any sounds from flash?
[02:22] <kestas> in 5.10
[02:23] <anna> maffju can i register my nickname somewhere=?
[02:23] <kestas> anyone know how I can fix it?
[02:23] <BigKahuna> kestas, There are a couple of fixes for that on the wiki, have you tried?
[02:23] <john_> kestas, /etc/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefoxrc (change auto to none)
[02:23] <BigKahuna> kestas, Search 'restricted formats'
[02:23] <pl_ice> Insipid yeh, i'm thinking jump to deb. but can't be asked
[02:23] <anna> maffju , the programm keeps on blocking private messages.. dont know why..
[02:24] <kestas> john_, still nothing
[02:24] <maffju> anna, one moment ...
[02:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> !register
[02:24] <ubotu> hmm... register is type /msg nickserv help register
[02:25] <john_> kestas, did you restart firefox? do you have other sounds going off?
[02:25] <john_> if you answered yes and no then you are doing something wrong
[02:25] <maffju> anna, type (here): /msg nickserv register passwd
[02:25] <maffju> anna, passwd is your passwd
[02:25] <anna> maffju but i dont have a password..
[02:25] <kestas> john_, nope
[02:26] <maffju> anna, you can choose one! :)
[02:26] <derek[] > anybody used gnokii ?
[02:26] <kestas> and yes I restarted it
[02:26] <anna> maffju ah okay ;)
[02:26] <pl_ice> derek[]  yeh, me
[02:26] <kestas> maybe I need to install flash as root instead of just a user
[02:26] <john_> kestas, what do you mean nope
[02:26] <john_> search synaptic for it
[02:26] <anna> maffju .. this wont work, because the nickname anna is allready registered..
[02:27] <derek[] > pl_ice, cool. I get an error: Couldn't open /home/derek/.gnokiirc config file,
[02:27] <maffju> anna, arg -- do you mind changing your nick?
[02:27] <Insipid> anna i guess that means you don't exist
[02:27] <Insipid> sorry
[02:27] <pl_ice> derek[]  do a search for that file, think it's in /etc/ then copy it to ur dir (with  .) but it still should read the global file in /etc
[02:27] <maffju> anna, type: /nick yournewnick
[02:27] <Stonekeeper> hi. Does anyone know where perl-gtk lives?
[02:27] <Insipid> so long, and thanks for all the fish
[02:27] <Insipid> lol
[02:27] <anna> maffju no, you can choose one for me (=
[02:28] <pl_ice> Insipid :D
[02:28] <derek[] > pl_ice, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5419
[02:28] <martii> hello
[02:28] <martii> there is pretty nasty problem with keyboard layout in breezy
[02:28] <Insipid> anna: anna_rulez
[02:28] <martii> I try to have more than one layout
[02:28] <martii> and it looks like it's impossible to do
[02:28] <derek[] > anna_
[02:28] <derek[] > anna, try: anna_
[02:29] <Insipid> anna:  or omglookitsanna_
[02:29] <derek[] > lol
[02:29] <anna> Insipid well.. im not shure about this one *haha
[02:29] <pl_ice> derek[]  never had that error :D
[02:29] <derek[] > pl_ice, dang.. I just installed gnokii and got this error
[02:29] <pl_ice> there is an option to give full error output look in man
[02:29] <martii> then I get infromation "The typing monitor is already running"
[02:29] <martii> after I try to add more layouts
[02:30] <maffju> anna_, cool
[02:30] <pl_ice> derek[]  u have to edit that file and change it for ur needs, there is a good description on the forum
[02:30] <derek[] > pl_ice, which file?
[02:30] <maffju> anna_, now /msg nickserv register passwd
[02:30] <derek[] > pl_ice, it doesn't exist
[02:30] <Insipid> WOAH, i got a paper due in like 2 hours what am I doing!!!?
[02:31] <derek[] > pl_ice, only .gnokii-errors exists
[02:31] <pl_ice> .gnokiirc
[02:31] <pl_ice> derek[]  man gnokii :D
[02:31] <anna_> yahoo ^^
[02:31] <Insipid> *runs*
[02:31] <djk_> Insipid: trying to get on bash.org with that?
[02:31] <anna_> my very own nickname *haha
[02:31] <derek[] > gedammit.. why the heck can I not type the tilde sign >>>>>>>>>.<<<<<<<<<
[02:31] <maffju> anna_, congratulation
[02:31] <pl_ice> anna_ cong.
[02:31] <derek[] > anna_, Felicitation!
[02:31] <anna_> derek[]   ~
[02:32] <aftertaf> ~~~~
[02:32] <anna_> thanks ^^
[02:32] <derek[] > anna_, I know.. I just can't do it from my end anymore
[02:32] <derek[] > and here's the problem:
[02:32] <tsw> derek[] : just copy paste from here ~ ;)
[02:32] <Insipid> djk_:  sure why not
[02:32] <anna_> derek[]  sorry, that was a joke ;)
[02:32] <derek[] > For some reason I'm not anymore able to type tilde.. whether with pressing shift or without it, only `, after I installed other input modes in linux. Why is that?
[02:32] <derek[] > np anna_
[02:32] <aftertaf> derek[] :  you're on the wrong locales maybe?
[02:33] <djk_> Insipid: I thought so.
[02:33] <Insipid> djk_:  actually, i really gotta go.. its really due ill be back soon
[02:33] <derek[] > aftertaf, how do I find out?
[02:33] <aftertaf> er, i dunno.... :/
[02:33] <derek[] > :\
[02:34] <anna_> maffju should i paste the output in pastebin?
[02:36] <derek[] > pl_ice, the man page doesn't help me. I can't first of all get it working
[02:36] <derek[] > pl_ice, the output I showed you was of gnokii --identify
[02:36] <BigKahuna> when removing an application how to ensure all previously installed dependencies are also removed. apt-get remove only seems to remove the package with the name specified.
[02:37] <pl_ice> derek[]  u have to configure first gnokii, looks like it's trying to connect via cable, not ir etc
[02:38] <derek[] > pl_ice, yes cable, DKU5
[02:38] <pl_ice> derek[]  have u found that config file?
[02:38] <derek[] > pl_ice, no , not in /home/derek
[02:38] <Chizn> does anyone here have the problem where a vfat partition will be remounted (oddly) from read and write to read only attributes?
[02:38] <Chizn> what does that mean?
[02:38] <[cro] smiley> how to make gdesklets be on top of other windows?
[02:38] <pl_ice> derek[]  so edit the main one, it's ok it will use global config insted of local(in ur chome)
[02:39] <derek[] > pl_ice, ok, where is it?
[02:39] <oblonski> hi htere
[02:39] <pl_ice> derek[]  i have to fire up my laptop :/ can't u search for it?
[02:40] <derek[] > pl_ice, I'm new to linux
[02:40] <derek[] > pl_ice, tell me the commands
[02:40] <derek[] > pl_ice, and the file is .gnokiirc ?
[02:40] <saik0> how would I format my /boot partition and re-install grub (debian installer style)
[02:40] <pl_ice> find / -name "filename"
[02:41] <derek[] > exact filename?
[02:41] <Elektrochelovek> derek[] , try 'rm -Rf ./' will fix enything
[02:41] <pl_ice> Elektrochelovek piss off
[02:41] <derek[] > Elektrochelovek, that was very rude
[02:41] <derek[] > you sound like a Microsoft ambassador
[02:41] <saik0> Ban worthy...IMO
[02:41] <derek[] > yes, ban!
[02:41] <Ng> !ops
[02:41] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[02:41] <Chizn> out for blood
[02:42] <Elektrochelovek> apoligies, i coulnd conrol myself;] ] 
[02:42] <sml> i have never had sich a painful experience with passwords & security in 5 years of linux use!
[02:42] <pl_ice> :/
[02:42] <saik0> Seveas saves the day!
[02:42] <Hoxzer> tell me guys how can I mess up twice with the backups?
[02:42] <Seveas> saik0, derek[] , calling out for a ban is not don, simply use the !ops trigger
[02:43] <saik0> Seveas, was'nt aware, noted. and thanks
[02:43] <Seveas> Hoxzer, rm -rf backup/; rm -rf backup/
[02:43] <Seveas> that'll mess it up twice
[02:43] <derek[] > Seveas, okay.
[02:43] <Seveas> Hoxzer, but what was the real problem? :)
[02:43] <sml> are there any ubuntu based distro's out there with normal security?
[02:43] <pl_ice> sml what
[02:43] <pl_ice> 's the problem?
[02:44] <Seveas> [cro] smiley, <shift><f12>
[02:44] <Seveas> BigKahuna, debfoster is your friend
[02:44] <XPefdMe> my windows machine ate everything :(
[02:44] <Hoxzer> Seveas: I lost knoppmyths XF86Config-4
[02:44] <sml> my new account always asks "to change my password immediately"  that is the first problem.
[02:44] <Hoxzer> now I can only boot in TV-out form :D
[02:44] <Seveas> Hoxzer, unless you use warty you don't need it
[02:44] <Hoxzer> no so nice to do Graphical settings
[02:44] <XPefdMe> I am going ot try Linux
[02:45] <Hoxzer> problem is with knoppmyth ;(
[02:45] <XPefdMe> should I download breezy badger or Dapper drake?
[02:45] <XPefdMe> which is better?
[02:45] <Hoxzer> ubuntu has nonthing to do with this
[02:45] <pl_ice> sml when? :> strange...
[02:45] <Seveas> XPefdMe, breezy
[02:45] <XPefdMe> ok
[02:45] <sml> pl_ice .. so I change the password and login ok
[02:45] <Seveas> dapper is very much in development and broken :)
[02:45] <sml> pl_ice .. all looks ok ...
[02:45] <Hoxzer> is it possible that I backup my Xorg.conf and copy it to knoppmyth as XF86Config-4?
[02:45] <XPefdMe> I am downloading it, it will be done in 14 minutes
[02:45] <XPefdMe> I will be back soon
[02:45] <aftertaf> Seveas:  yeah, and its fun that way :] 
[02:45] <pl_ice> sml never happened to me, can u post it on ubuntuforums.org /security ?
[02:46] <sml> pl_ice .. i have tried editing with visudo
[02:46] <[cro] smiley> Seveas, i tryed it doesnt work
[02:46] <coz> hello all
[02:46] <Chizn> is it possible for a partition to remount itself as read-only randomly?
[02:46] <Seveas> Chizn, only if it's broken and errors are occurring
[02:46] <Chizn> ahh.. how would i tell?
[02:46] <pl_ice> sml i don't know what u have done, but it's not soupossed to b like that ...
[02:47] <Seveas> Chizn, syslog/kern.log should give hints
[02:47] <aftertaf> Chizn:  or if your distro is a certain window-type one from redmond ;)
[02:47] <saik0> Seveas: How would I install grub into an empty partition?
[02:47] <sml> pl_ice .. yea the previous times I have used ubuntu it has been ok
[02:47] <[cro] smiley> Seveas, it worked in the beginning, but then i changed shortcut and it doesnt work anymore
[02:47] <Seveas> saik0, grub-install /dev/your_partition
[02:47] <Seveas> [cro] /ban 85.186.*
[02:47] <Seveas> damn you keyboard
[02:47] <pl_ice> sml please post all errors on forum /security ...
[02:47] <Seveas> pl_ice, why?
[02:47] <Chizn> right ok, cool, thanks
[02:47] <Seveas> this is IRC, not the forum
[02:48] <Dr_Acemaster> how do you copy the time stamp along with text in xchat?
[02:48] <saik0> Seveas, that puts all the init-rds, kernels, and config stuff in it?
[02:48] <sml> Seveas .. any chance buddy of a few mins please?
[02:48] <derek[] > pl_ice,  derek@linux:/usr/share/xgnokii/help/en_US/sample$ ls
[02:48] <derek[] > gnokiirc
[02:48] <pl_ice> ok, Seveas help him :) i'm off to bewd
[02:48] <pl_ice> *bed
[02:48] <sml> :)
[02:48] <Seveas> g'night
[02:48] <derek[] > pl_ice, hang on
[02:48] <sml> thanks pl_ice
[02:48] <pl_ice> derek[]  try using gammu, i found it much better package :D
[02:48] <Seveas> saik0, no, it installs grub
[02:48] <derek[] > pl_ice, ok
[02:48] <coz> I use a wacom tablet, is it possible to debug this in ubuntu
[02:48] <pl_ice> than gnokii
[02:49] <Chizn> Dec  5 13:35:18 localhost kernel: [4417669.913000]  FAT: Filesystem panic (dev hda5)
[02:49] <Chizn> what does that mean!?
[02:49] <[cro] smiley> Seveas, i tried to reinstall gdesklets but it doesnt help:( any ideas?
[02:49] <XPefdMe> Ok, I have backedup up what documents remain onto a CD, and plan to purge windows from my machine
[02:49] <christian_> now, i formatted my new disk... how can i add it into resources menu?
[02:49] <Seveas> [cro] smiley, change the shortcut key back?
[02:50] <Seveas> Chizn, it means that the filesystem on the disk is busted
[02:50] <Seveas> Chizn, boot into windows and run chkdsk
[02:50] <[cro] smiley> Seveas, shift + F12 nothing happens
[02:50] <Chizn> i dont have windows :oS
[02:50] <Seveas> Chizn, then why do you have a FAT partition?!?
[02:50] <saik0> Seveas ok..well what happened was I was running debian on this machine and edited the menu by hand...i just want the automagic kernel list working for ubuntu and not debian
[02:51] <coz> Does anyone use a wacom tablet here?
[02:51] <Chizn> cuz i like them...? lol
[02:51] <pl_ice>  bed time bie :D
[02:51] <aftertaf> Chizn:  do you HAVE a fat partiton?
[02:51] <[cro] smiley> bie
[02:51] <Seveas> Chizn, you're masochistic or foolish
[02:51] <Seveas> fat partitions are stupid to use on libux
[02:51] <Chizn> probably a bit of both
[02:51] <Seveas> linux even
[02:51] <Chizn> i have a fat 32 partition, yes aftertaf
[02:52] <_jason> Chizn, what do you like about them??
[02:52] <Chizn> lol, i find it funny that you guys are freaking out over me using a fat partition in linux, are they really that bad?
[02:52] <Seveas> Chizn, yes
[02:53] <Chizn> i like how if i change my mind and move back to windows, i dont have to piss about with 50 odd gigs of data
[02:53] <Chizn> but.. i cant see that happening..
[02:53] <Chizn> its not possible to just convert fat to ext3 is it without losing everything
[02:53] <Seveas> (un?)fortunately not
[02:54] <solka> !nvidia
[02:54] <saik0> Chizn, not unless you have another box, HDD, or maybe a CD spindle and far too much time
[02:54] <Chizn> so i guess that another reason for it being fat, the fact it was fat when it got filled with all this data and not being able to convert it, it just stayed like that
[02:55] <saik0> seeing as how tou're the foolish/masochistic type =)
[02:55] <Chizn> yea, lol
[02:55] <Chizn> i will probably look into that
[02:55] <Chizn> this read only switch is starting to irk my turkey
[02:56] <Chizn> could i do a chkdsk from vmware or do i need a physical windows install?
[02:56] <saik0> Chizn, o_O FAT32 is writable
[02:56] <Chizn> yea not when it kicks up a PANIC in the kernel
[02:56] <Chizn> it makes it read-only.. :o(
[02:57] <Chizn> then i have to umount and mount again and its fine then it goes again later on
[02:57] <saik0> Chizn, fsck /dev/foo
[02:57] <Seveas> Chizn, fsck.vfat might work too
[02:57] <Chizn> what does that do?
[02:57] <Chizn> oh yea, we have man pages, lol
[02:58] <Seveas> gna :/
[02:58] <saik0> Did anyobody else just see that? infitity billion quit messages?
[02:58] <deltron> lol
[02:58] <Seveas> saik0, relax, just a netsplit
[02:58] <deltron> it's called a netsplit :)
[02:58] <XPefdMe> that is called a netsplit
[02:58] <Chizn> yea, it was a netspliiit
[02:58] <deltron> lol
[02:58] <XPefdMe> LOL
[02:59] <Chizn> yakky things
[02:59] <XPefdMe> lets not all answer at once :)
[02:59] <Seveas> you'll see about this many join messages
[02:59] <deltron> that's why you run irssi-text so it doesn't show you all the messages
[02:59] <saik0> you call it netsplit, i call it 'infinity billion quit messages'
[02:59] !lilo:*! That main rotation server has been removed from rotation, and we'll be shutting it down for now. Affected users: about 2262
[03:00] <XPefdMe> saik0 this happens because one of the servers lost its connection to the server we are on
[03:00] <Chizn> you can fsck a fat partition?
[03:00] <XPefdMe> so the network SPLIT
[03:00] <XPefdMe> and the people logged into that server, left the channel here
[03:00] <XPefdMe> but there is a copy of the channel on their server, that says ALL OF US split
[03:00] <aftertaf> chan became dual
[03:01] <XPefdMe> now that would be a million billion thingys
[03:01] <sml> Seveas .. can you help with this root / su / visudo problem ?
[03:01] <saik0> Now, can someone tell me how to get the debian automagic kernels working if you dont install grub at installation and edit the menu from an existing one?
[03:01] <XPefdMe> bbiaw
[03:01] <sml> I have googled for hours
[03:01] <Seveas> sml, what's the problem? unable to sudo?
[03:01] <Seveas> ooh
[03:01] <Seveas> this is bad
[03:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> waho
[03:01] <aftertaf> funky chicken dance
[03:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> never had freenode like this
[03:01] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[03:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol ubotu
[03:01] <Seveas> Kamping_Kaiser, ghe, it's been worse a few weeks ago
[03:02] <sml> I am always asked to change my password ,, when I try to run an admin tool, it says "child terminated with 1 status"
[03:02] <saik0> this is gonna hurt
[03:02] <sml> Seveas .. i have tried visudo with no luck
[03:03] <Seveas> sml, sudo echo foo
[03:03] <Seveas> what's the output of that
[03:03] <sml> foo
[03:03] <Chizn> heh, glooobal
[03:03] <Seveas> then sudo works :)
[03:03] <sml> that's all
[03:03] <deltron> doh
[03:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> brb. reconnecting to the network
[03:03] <Seveas> sml, /etc/sudoers on the pastebin please
[03:03] <deltron> server we were on split lol
[03:03] <Seveas> btw, gotta go for half an hour
[03:03] <aftertaf> !funky
[03:03] <ubotu> funky is probably Get up,  (git awn up),   Get up,  (git awn up),  Stay on the scene (git awn up)..... like an ubuntu machine,  (git awn up). yeah granddaddy of funk :] 
[03:04] <Chizn> that was pretty quick response to the routing problem though
[03:04] <sml> Seveas .. i have no network connection as I cannot get into the gui networking tool
[03:05] <sml> Seveas but the file is ..
[03:05] <saik0> sml, you're on IRC.....
[03:06] <sml> Seveas ... # User priv ... root ALL=(ALL) ALL .. # Member of the ... %admin ALL=ALL(ALL) ALL
[03:06] <sml> saiko0 .. on my other notebook
[03:06] <sml> saiko0 .. working beautifully with archlinux :)
[03:06] <sml> saiko0 .. if only arch did a ppc distro for this iBook!!
[03:09] <chrisx1> hey
[03:09] <Skippy23> hello everybody
[03:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi
[03:10] <Skippy23> hi kaiser
[03:10] <Skippy23> how are you
[03:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> not bad. self?
[03:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> skippy. lol@nic
[03:10] !lilo:*! reup in progress on that main rotation server on standby; affected users, about 2050
[03:10] <Skippy23> huh
[03:10] <saik0> sml, how does arch do with ease of installation?
[03:11] <Skippy23> hmm
[03:11] <sml> saiko0 ... i have found arch to be very smooth with about 5 different computers
[03:11] <sml> saiko0 .. the best thing is that if you do have a problem, then it is easier to resolve
[03:12] <saik0> sml, I'm partial to i686 binaries =)
[03:12] <sml> saiko0 .. have u tried arch?
[03:14] <saik0> sml, no cant say I have. but if you wanna continue this discussion msg me for the sake of the topic
[03:17] <sml> hmmm
[03:17] <S3xy_SBY> hiii ubunterosss
[03:17] <sml> saiko0 .. anyway .. I will install Dapper Drake and that should resolve this security problem !
[03:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> er
[03:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> wont solv that stability issue though
[03:19] <sml> breezy is not much good with this F&^$ed up security and sudo etc
[03:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> what hole?
[03:20] <Skippy23> ubuntu is not that safe out of the box
[03:20] <Skippy23> :\
[03:20] <Ng> Skippy23: how do you figure that?
[03:20] <Skippy23> wrong rights
[03:20] <djk_> go on..
[03:21] <Skippy23> no iptables list
[03:21] <blue-frog> Skippy23, what do u need it for?
[03:21] <djk_> no open ports.
[03:21] <Skippy23> a newbie can,t handle iptables i ques
[03:21] <Skippy23> djk 22 25 111 and 631
[03:21] <djk_> Skippy23: a newbie can use firestarter.
[03:21] <Ng> Skippy23: by default there's nothing for iptables to protect, the only listening services are on lo
[03:22] <Skippy23> hmm
[03:22] <Ng> anything else? ;)
[03:22] <Skippy23> thats about it
[03:22] <Skippy23> :)
[03:22] <Ng> so, it's secure then :)
[03:23] <Skippy23> mwoah
[03:23] <aftertaf> lol
[03:23] <Skippy23> i use a older ubuntu version 4.10 and updating whas a problem
[03:23] <aftertaf> Skippy23:  xfree > xorg for one
[03:24] <djk_> Skippy23: updating to what
[03:24] <Skippy23> security updates
[03:26] <aftertaf> Skippy23:  tried going to hoary yet? then breezy ?
[03:27] <chrisx1> any1 help with "Some Packages have unresolvable dependences"
[03:27] <Skippy23> why 4.10 is fine
[03:27] <Lunz> Hi, can anyone recommend a program that does a timed shutdown of my system???
[03:27] <aftertaf> chrisx1:  reposiroty setup right, universe & multiverse?
[03:27] <chrisx1> not sure
[03:27] <aftertaf> Lunz:  shutdown does just that
[03:28] <aftertaf> man shutdown
[03:28] <chrisx1> i dont know what they should be
[03:28] <Lunz> really
[03:28] <djk_> Lunz: don't state the obvious ;)
[03:28] <aftertaf> chrisx1:  illpaste you one.
[03:28] <chrisx1> ok ty
[03:28] <djk_> eh,, crap,, aftertag ^^
[03:28] <djk_> ah damn it..
[03:28] <djk_> i meant aftertaf
[03:28] <Lunz> ok kool
[03:28] <chrisx1> dapper?
[03:31] <ScatterBrain> Any Samba+LDAP admins here?
[03:32] <saik0> ScatterBrain. you would probably have better luck in #samba. I know I did
[03:32] <ScatterBrain> saik0: Thanks...
[03:35] <Lunz> I wish there was a GUI program that could do the shut down.
[03:37] <aftertaf> djk_:  yeah..... rtfm ;)
[03:37] <aftertaf> Lunz:  learn to use and be happy with the console, it can be your best friend
[03:38] <Lunz> lol I know! I was a big fan of the MS DOS command prompt.
[03:38] <aa-aa> haueh
[03:38] <aa-aa> big fan of the MS DOS
[03:38] <aa-aa> ^^
[03:39] <OdeLon> Hi guys
[03:39] <aftertaf> wb OdeLon :)
[03:39] <OdeLon> Thanks afteraf
[03:39] <aftertaf> +t
[03:39] <Lunz> k guys take care c u soon.
[03:40] <aftertaf> :) Lunz
[03:40] <aa-aa> pena que nesse canal no haja nenhum brasileiro.. :P
[03:40] <OdeLon> I finally got past most of the problems I have - now apt-get install seems to die on some python scripts (Tools.py line 470)
[03:40] <OdeLon> It complains about invalid syntax
[03:41] <aftertaf> OdeLon:  did it get on the net?  and with which package do you have that error?
[03:41] <OdeLon> Not sure... it says 452 not fully installed or removed.
[03:41] <aftertaf> OdeLon:  ok, sudo apt-get -f install ......
[03:42] <OdeLon> Did that... and when it tries to install it complains about a syntax error in Tools.py
[03:42] <aftertaf> OdeLon:  pastebin the full error
[03:42] <OdeLon> It goes through several packages and then dies with too many errors
[03:42] <aftertaf> !pastebin
[03:42] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[03:43] <OdeLon> How can I start an x session from command line? How do I configure X?
[03:44] <trappist> OdeLon: startx and sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:44] <sethk> OdeLon, startx
[03:44] <aftertaf> OdeLon:  startx
[03:44] <obsvuugj> OdeLon> to reconfigure sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:44] <OdeLon> startx doesn't even exist... tried that...
[03:44] <sethk> OdeLon, if startx doesn't exist, perhaps you didn't install X
[03:44] <aftertaf> OdeLon:  with 452 not fully configured, you're not yet there i imagine
[03:45] <Seveas> OdeLon, dpkg --configure --pending
[03:45] <aftertaf> sethk:  probs with install cd left him with console
[03:45] <OdeLon> I should think...
[03:45] <aftertaf> OdeLon:  try what Seveas said..
[03:45] <aftertaf> Seveas:  apt-get -f install  seems to die on some python scripts (Tools.py line 470)
[03:45] <OdeLon> Seveas: even this spews out errors
[03:46] <sethk> aftertaf, regardless, if startx doesn't exist, then the X install didn't complete
[03:46] <aftertaf> sethk:  i agree.. the thing is to get him past thos errors so that the other packages do install
[03:47] <sethk> aftertaf, then probably he has to uninstall something to get to a good state, then reinstall
[03:47] <aftertaf> the python package with the sytax error, then......
[03:48] <mark_> hey guys, can anyone help me in installing a espon c66 printer ?
[03:48] <aftertaf> OdeLon:  try again, and note the actual package name with the python errors.
[03:48] <OdeLon> It seems to choke when compiling Tools.py with a syntax error in that file.
[03:48] <aftertaf> tools.py is the package name?
[03:48] <OdeLon> It is happening with many packages.
[03:48] <aftertaf> oh ok.
[03:49] <aftertaf> OdeLon:  id get another install cd then.
[03:49] <OdeLon> Tried a couple... Should I remove python and retry?
[03:49] <aftertaf> i dont know what else could help
[03:49] <shining> how can I use screen in screen ?
[03:50] <Seveas> shining, C-a n
[03:50] <trappist> shining: set up a different control character
[03:50] <trappist> say, ctrl-f
[03:50] <Seveas> C-a c that is...
[03:50] <shining> no wait
[03:50] <trappist> that's not quite running screen in screen
[03:50] <shining> yep
[03:51] <shining> I use screen on my laptop
[03:51] <shining> inside it I ssh to my other box
[03:51] <shining> which has a screen session too
[03:51] <aftertaf> OdeLon:  i dont know what package you could remove for that......
[03:51] <Seveas> ah
[03:51] <Seveas> that's gonna be awkward :)
[03:51] <aftertaf> shining:  bind the next and prev keys to sth else in one of them
[03:51] <shining> yep I'll see how to do that, thanks
[03:52] <trappist> shining: use a different control character
[03:52] <aftertaf> trappist:  is right...
[03:52] <aftertaf> shining:  check your .screenrc
[03:52] <shining> I hope I can just add a bind
[03:52] <holycow> does anyone know if you can setup an email account in evolution to download all email to one mail folder?  evo seems to dump everything to a main inbox
[03:52] <shining> not overwrite the current one
[03:52] <aftertaf> !screen
[03:52] <ubotu> I guess screen is a terminal multiplexer http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen AND http://www.macworld.com/weblogs/macgems/
[03:53] <trappist> shining: did I mention use another control character?
[03:53] <aftertaf> trappist:  you did..... ;P
[03:54] <trappist> screen -e^Ff for example
[03:54] <aftertaf> OdeLon:  or try again, reinstalling but use the server option for a minimum install, then get it on the net and apt-get your ubuntu-desktop
[03:54] <mark_> an anyone help me in adding a espon c66 printer ?
[03:55] <aftertaf> mark_:  cant you find it in print setup?
[03:55] <OdeLon> Will try if removing/reinstalling python won't get me anywhere.... so far so good
[03:55] <mark_> No its not listed
[03:55] <aftertaf> OdeLon:  there are a lot of packages with it.....
[03:55] <aftertaf> !printing
[03:55] <ubotu> hmm... printing is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[03:55] <shining> trappist: yep, thanks
[03:56] <aftertaf> mark_:  check on that site....
[03:56] <mark_> will do, thx
[03:56] <jack__> Hi! I cam't compile perl modules using cpan. I just installed build-essental but it still doesn't work.
[03:56] <OdeLon> I kinda figured so... it seems to be installng most of the missing packages right now.
[03:56] <OdeLon> X not withstanding
[03:56] <aftertaf> OdeLon:  really? good news then ;)
[03:57] <OdeLon> fingers crossed
[03:57] <trappist> jack__: "doesn't work" isn't really helpful.  information like what happens when you try might be.
[03:57] <aftertaf> and if ubuntu-desktop wont install, try kubuntu-desktop ;)
[03:57] <OdeLon> lol afteraf
[03:57] <puff> Morning.
[03:57] <MP3yeur> hello all (im ench user)
[03:57] <MP3yeur> hello all (im fench user)
[03:57] <wickedpuppy> !fr
[03:57] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[03:57] <jack__> trappist, cpan can't pass makefiles:: Writing Makefile for DBI
[03:57] <jack__>     -- NOT OK
[03:58] <wickedpuppy> jack-, btw ... have you thought of asking in #perl ?
[03:58] <MP3yeur> ive no response on ubuntu-fr
[03:58] <jack__> wickedpuppy, uhw.. hehe
[03:58] <wickedpuppy> MP3yeur, then pls ask here ...
[03:58] <Seveas> jack__, don't use cpan, use apt
[03:58] <OdeLon> !he
[03:58] <ubotu> OdeLon: Not a clue
[03:58] <OdeLon> !il
[03:58] <shining> do ubuntu and kubuntu share the same repos?
[03:58] <ubotu> OdeLon: Bugger all, i dunno
[03:58] <aftertaf> jack__:  try removing older versions of automake & autoconf
[03:58] <Kaiser_Sleeps> shining: yes
[03:58] <Seveas> OdeLon, feel free to add it :)
[03:58] <Seveas> shining, yes
[03:59] <wickedpuppy> he is what ?
[03:59] <OdeLon> Give me a couple of years hacking around first
[03:59] <aftertaf> lool OdeLon  :)
[03:59] <trappist> jack__: the vast majority of cpan modules are available in, and should be installed from, the apt-repositories.  sudo apt-get install libdbi-perl
[03:59] <aftertaf> bye all :)
[03:59] <trappist> jack__: you might also want to install libperl-dev
[04:00] <shining> so installing kde from ubuntu will result in exactly the same distribution as installing gnome from kubuntu, right? both will have exactly the same working versions of the two de
[04:00] <trappist> shining: yeah it's all the same packages.  ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop are just metapackages that install a selection of packages for you.
[04:00] <jack__> trappist, I installed libdbi-perl. but perl complains that it can't find module perl. :: use dbi;
[04:01] <trappist> jack__: libperl-dev?
[04:02] <jack__> Okay it's working now!! Thanks all.. :) :)
[04:02] <MP3yeur> ive a problem with CUPS on my server (192.168.0.2), i want to print a document on a Station (192.168.0.5), i try to connect with firefox to http://192.168.0.2:631 (it work), but when i go to administrative task, CUPS ask to me login and password, i try my root login with password and others actives login but it's not correct for CUPS, then i cant do administrative tasks !
[04:02] <MP3yeur> Please use simple word to talk with me because im french !
[04:03] <trappist> MP3yeur: set up serveradmin in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
[04:03] <Seveas> MP3yeur, the cups webadmin should not be used
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> CUPS admin features are disabled by default in Ubuntu
[04:03] <sethk> MP3yeur, by default you can only administer cups using a browser running on the same machine.  You can change this in the cups configuration
[04:05] <MP3yeur> sethk i think i ve autorised access since 192.168.0.*
[04:05] <holycow> guys, does anyone know how to disable/config the ubuntu update manager so that it automatically installs the updates without asking the user?
[04:05] <MP3yeur> i want to create a login user for administrative printer tasks
[04:06] <Earthen> could someone give me the web addess for the sources list for breezy
[04:06] <sethk> MP3yeur, also, start the browser as root, in addition to using the root password and user
[04:06] <MP3yeur> on the server ?
[04:07] <MP3yeur> Administrative commands are disabled in the web interface for security reasons. Please use the GNOME CUPS manager (System > Administration > Printing).                   i dont want to use this soft !
[04:07] <CarlFK> "start the browser as root" doesn't sound rignt.  the server won't know what user the browser is running as
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> Cups by default only allowed localhost to it  i thought.
[04:08] <trappist> MP3yeur: feel free to reconfigure cups via /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
[04:09] <indypende> someone can give me some information about the printers?
[04:09] <MP3yeur> i will go on the server, i will try to start firefox as root user, and im connect to 192.168.0.2:631
[04:09] <MP3yeur> it ok ?
[04:09] <indypende> i have to take my new printer for home use
[04:09] <trappist> cups doesn't care if firefox is running as root
[04:09] <indypende> i need that's be supported totally by linux!
[04:09] <MP3yeur> ok
[04:09] <Fushizzz> Heyo
[04:09] <indypende> no one have an idea?
[04:10] <nickrud> MP3yeur, there's an easier method; sudo adduser cupsys shadow, sudo invoke-rc.d cupsys restart, and voila, the :631 works
[04:10] <CarlFK> MP3yeur:  try localhost:631 not 192.168.0.2:631
[04:10] <MP3yeur> then 127.0.0.1
[04:10] <are> holaaa
[04:10] <are> alguien abla espaol ?
[04:11] <BockBilbo> are, vete a #ubuntu-es
[04:11] <are> gracias
[04:11] <are> ya estoy alli
[04:11] <are> =] 
[04:11] <are> tanks
[04:11] <are> =] 
[04:11] <Fushizzz> nisiquiera vos sabes Hablar
[04:12] <CarlFK> indypende: what printer (make/model/URL)
[04:12] <CarlFK> indypende: also, have a look at http://www.linuxprinting.org
[04:12] <indypende> CarlFK, i have to aquire a new printer... i want a suggestion!
[04:13] <Seveas> !tell are about es
[04:13] <jimmy_> using apt-get how can i search what versions of a file are available?
[04:13] <CarlFK> indypende: laser or inkjet?  fast or cheap?  color?
[04:14] <trappist> MP3yeur: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrequentlyAskedQuestions?highlight=%28cups%29#head-31236fe6767d32d8849819b22f0da7da5026023b
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> "Budget" is the top question. :P
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> and the task its to do.
[04:14] <indypende> CarlFK, inkjet/color
[04:14] <Seveas> indypende, check www.linuxprinting.org
[04:14] <indypende> Seveas, i see..
[04:14] <ikor> jimmy_: use apt-cache
[04:15] <indypende> but all the supported perfectly there are'nt on the markets
[04:16] <bretzel> Hi there :-)
[04:16] <SirKillalot> is there a way to restart X without having to restart an X application? (something like freeze it?)
[04:16] <jimmy_> if i want to downgrade gcc to 3.4, how do i do this. i'm using 4 now
[04:17] <Chousuke> SirKillalot: not
[04:17] <Chousuke> -t
[04:17] <trappist> SirKillalot: no, that's one of the things that kinda sucks about X
[04:17] <SirKillalot> ok thanks
[04:17] <SirKillalot> thoug that sucks
[04:17] <mamoru> people, is there a tool to change keyboard map?
[04:17] <SirKillalot> i would like to restart my X because of it needing so much RAM after that runtime..
[04:17] <ikor> mamoru: setxkbmap
[04:18] <MP3yeur> ok ive try a person on the french channel, thanks for your help !
[04:18] <CarlFK> indypende: try asking in #linuxhelp.  last I checked, Lexmark was not well supported
[04:18] <jimmy_> how do i downgrade gcc versions? do i uninstall first
[04:18] <mamoru> ikor, thanks!
[04:19] <HarddisK> re all
[04:19] <trappist> MP3yeur: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrequentlyAskedQuestions?#head-31236fe6767d32d8849819b22f0da7da5026023b
[04:19] <trappist> jimmy_: no, several versions of gcc can coexist happily
[04:19] <trappist> jimmy_: to choose which version to use, export CC or use update-alternatives
[04:19] <jimmy_> how can i see what version I have?
[04:20] <jimmy_> versions
[04:20] <Ng> dpkg -l | grep gcc
[04:20] <trappist> ls /usr/bin/gcc-*
[04:20] <Ng> or that :)
[04:20] <jimmy_> i'm trying to compile mplayer but it says to use gcc-3.x
[04:20] <Seveas> dpkg -l "gcc*"
[04:20] <hedonick> or gcc -v :)
[04:20] <Seveas> jimmy_, don't compile mplayer
[04:21] <Seveas> grab it from the repositories
[04:21] <Seveas> !tell jimmy_ about mplayer
[04:21] <Seveas> hedonick, that won't tell all installed versions :)
[04:22] <hedonick> Seveas: ah, didn't see the qualifier, only his first (malformed ;-) question
[04:23] <limguohong91> Hi May I know is it possible to connect a mp3 player to ubuntu and it is not IPod....... I am using Creative Zen touch
[04:24] <Fushizzz> hi
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> limguohong91,  plug it in  - and if you are lucky it will show up as a usb drive.
[04:24] <limguohong91> Dr_Willis, I tried and I am unlucky
[04:24] <Fushizzz> i am gay
[04:24] <jimmy_> apt-get can't find mplayer-586
[04:25] <Seveas> Fushizzz, off-yopic talk elsewhere please
[04:25] <OdeLon2> Seveas: Removing and reinstalling python did the trick, I am now using xchat on my shiny new ubuntu desktop
[04:25] <Seveas> jimmy_, enable multiverse
[04:25] <OdeLon2> Thanks for all the help!
[04:25] <shining> dapper isn't broken enough, I'm disappointed :)
[04:25] <Seveas> OdeLon, cool :)
[04:25] <Ng> limguohong91: you need special software
[04:25] <Ng> shining: today
[04:25] <ice9> what is a good web development application for linux ?
[04:25] <trappist> shining: you timed it wrong
[04:25] <Seveas> ice9, vim
[04:25] <chrisx1> hey im havin trouble installin packages
[04:25] <chrisx1> hey
[04:25] <ice9> for web
[04:25] <ice9> really ?
[04:25] <chrisx1> any1 help with "Some Packages have unresolvable dependences"
[04:25] <Ng> limguohong91: I think gnomad2 should do the trick
[04:25] <Seveas> vim is good for everything :)
[04:25] <ice9> I use that for text
[04:25] <shining> trappist: what happened recently?
[04:25] <Ben123987> Ng, Where can i get it?
[04:26] <Seveas> but you might be interested in nvu or screem
[04:26] <ice9> what are some other ones
[04:26] <trappist> shining: missing mouse and keyboard drivers for xorg
[04:26] <Milleniumgroup> hi, evryone :)
[04:26] <Fushizzz> Yow
[04:26] <shining> ha yep, I just updated that
[04:26] <shining> all input and graphic x driver
[04:26] <Ben123987> Ng, Where can i get gnomad2 ?
[04:26] <Ng> Ben123987: synaptic
[04:26] <trappist> shining: since you said that I'm going to take this opportunity to apt-get upgrade :)
[04:26] <shining> :)
[04:27] <Ben123987> Thanks Ng :)
[04:27] <shining> hehe it was a joke, it doesn't work at all
[04:27] <trappist> oh nm then
[04:28] <shining> trappist: no, just trying to confuse you
[04:28] <shining> trappist: I just checked again by killing x
[04:28] <shining> it works fine
[04:28] <bretzel> I have just upgraded KDE to 3.5 with Kubuntu repo and for others using KDE in Ubuntu, I recommand to jump to kde 3.5 (Kubuntu desk )ASAP :-)
[04:29] <shining> kubuntu meta packages isn't broken ?
[04:29] <BigKahuna> how to kill a process from cli using process name not PID?
[04:29] <shining> what do you mean, kubuntu repo?
[04:29] <shining> BigKahuna: killall maybe
[04:30] <trappist> BigKahuna: pkill
[04:30] <bretzel> shining: Only for konq-plugins but I managed to install it bu removing previous KDE -- I have to say I dunno if that package was well installed tho:-) but I am actually in kde3.5 and everything seems to be ok
[04:30] <shining> BigKahuna: or kill `pidof app` or something like that
[04:30] <shining> ho
[04:30] <jessid> hello...I would like to know if there exist any gui app to configure samba service!!!
[04:32] <Yagisan> Do we have and screen capture apps like fraps in ubuntu ?
[04:32] <Yagisan> s/and/any
[04:32] <Ng> Yagisan: poke your Print Screen key :)
[04:32] <Ng> or do you mean movie recording?
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> :)
[04:32] <Yagisan> Ng: I need 25/fps 640x480
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> Fraps is an interesting program.
[04:32] <Ng> Yagisan: ah, I'm not sure then, sorry
[04:33] <Yagisan> Ng: Me either, that's why I'm here :)
[04:33] <mahangu> i cant write to my ipod shuffle, nautilus says it is a read onyl device
[04:33] <mahangu> whta can I do?
[04:33] <mahangu> i want to put some files on it
[04:34] <jimmy_> apt-get install mplayer-586 gives error: Depends: libpolyp0 but it is not installable
[04:35] <bur[n] er> mahangu: use banshee
[04:35] <CarlFK> mahangu: there is an app for ipod.. i can't remember what it is called...
[04:35] <bur[n] er> mahangu: or gtkpod
[04:35] <CarlFK> banshee
[04:35] <bur[n] er> or the very latest rhythmbox (not in repositories)
[04:35] <bur[n] er> bbl
[04:36] <mamoru> people, is there a tool for editing keyboard map?
[04:36] <BigKahuna> trappist, Thanks, works a treat.
[04:36] <_jason> mamoru, try man setkeycodes... don't know too much about it
[04:36] <Ben123987> I am using gnomad2 and it is goof but when i open it with my MP3 connected. It shows. USB_Set)Configuration: Operation not pemritted
[04:36] <Ben123987> How can i fix it?
[04:37] <osfameron> dammit, ubuntu is still reading CDs at x1.3 speed or so rather than the x10 it should be doing
[04:37] <osfameron> despite running through modifications in !dma
[04:38] <Dr_Willis> osfameron,  you ripping audio cd's ?
[04:39] <osfameron> Dr_Willis: yup
[04:39] <ubuntu> dvs
[04:39] <chrisx1> where do i get gtk2.2.0?
[04:39] <mamoru> _jason, thx, but that's not quite what i needed
[04:39] <ubuntu> algun espaol
[04:39] <Dr_Willis> osfameron,  Ive seen some programs (windows included) that rip them slowly for some reaon. Dirt? or perhaps they are some how double checking the data.. not sure.
[04:39] <_jason> !es
[04:39] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:40] <osfameron> Dr_Willis: the laptop came installed with WinXP, used to run at 10x speed
[04:40] <chrisx1> where do i get gtk2.2.0?
[04:40] <chrisx1> !gtk
[04:40] <ubotu> chrisx1: Are you smoking crack?
[04:40] <osfameron> on ubuntu not.  But I wonder if I can check for dirt, that's a possibility I spose
[04:40] <trappist> osfameron: sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/cdrom (or whatever the device is)
[04:40] <osfameron> trappist: did that
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> osfameron,  i tend to just use 'grip' and let them rip in the background.
[04:41] <hybrid> chrisx1: synaptic?
[04:41] <jimmy_> could someone install mplayer for me
[04:41] <chrisx1> its not there
[04:41] <chrisx1> or
[04:41] <chrisx1> if i do
[04:41] <osfameron> Dr_Willis: ooo, I'll check that out
[04:41] <chrisx1> i get unresolveable dependances
[04:41] <hybrid> jimmy_:sudo  apt-get install mplayer
[04:41] <CarlFK> jimmy_:  breezy?
[04:42] <hybrid> chrisx1: are all your repos set up correctly?
[04:42] <CarlFK> jimmy_: see if this helps: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto
[04:42] <chrisx1> hybrid im not sure
[04:42] <Pablo> how do I burn a bin/cue in linux?
[04:42] <chrisx1> can i paste them to you?
[04:42] <hybrid> chrisx1: /join #flood
[04:43] <jimmy_> i get error mplayer-586: Depends: libpolyp0 but it is not installable
[04:44] <jimmy_> maybe i should reinstall
[04:44] <jimmy_> ubuntu
[04:44] <AlexRM> Hey
[04:45] <AlexRM> I just installed the fglrx ATI Drivers, and now there are horizontal lines accross my screen
[04:45] <AlexRM> I think that my horizontal refresh rate is..stuck
[04:45] <AlexRM> how do I change it ??
[04:45] <trappist> AlexRM: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:45] <vincentmx> hi
[04:45] <trappist> or sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:45] <enkrav> Hi, why is the ssh-agent process running, on my ubuntu installation? I don't have installed any ssh server ??
[04:45] <AlexRM> trappist, and edit what?
[04:45] <trappist> AlexRM: if you don't know, go with the dpkg-reconfigure
[04:46] <AlexRM> ok
[04:46] <jimmy_> anyone know a linux distro that is easy to use?
[04:46] <saik0> Could anybody explain this phenomenon: Boot CDs only boot when no (bootable?) HDDs are connected
[04:46] <TrendKill> hi guys, im trying to create a reiserfs partition on a 60 gig hard drive (i want the whole hardrive to be one partition) but mkreiserfs keeps creating a 10 gig partition instead of the whole thing...any ideas on what im doing wrong? mkreiserfs /dev/hdc1
[04:46] <saik0> jimmy_, ubuntu
[04:46] <vincentmx> jimmy_ kubuntu, xubuntu or ubuntu
[04:46] <saik0> jimmy_ =P
[04:46] <jrw146> I attempted installing 5.10. After all the initial setups, it rebooted as usual, and began unpacking stuff (as usual). After it finished that, it goes to a screen with just a bolded, non blinking _ , left for hours, then I manually restarted. It goes thru the normal boot procedures, but as its about to load the logons/desktop, it simply goes to a blank screen. Tried with 5.04 and doing the...
[04:46] <jrw146> ...same as well.
[04:46] <jrw146> Any clues?
[04:46] <vincentmx> odd question in an Ubuntu channel
[04:46] <jimmy_> TrendKill, maybe your boot order in your bios
[04:47] <hybrid> jimmy_: ubuntu is the most flexible. SuSe is strickly newbie/business Xandros is for Windows lovers and Fedora is for RedHat people
[04:47] <ubuntu> hi @ all
[04:47] <vincentmx> hi ubuntu
[04:47] <enkrav> and debian is ...
[04:47] <saik0> jrw146, mkfs is for creating filesystems on a partition
[04:47] <ubuntu> i ve problems with grub
[04:48] <hybrid> enkrav: debian is not Y2K compatiable
[04:48] <TrendKill> jimmy_, how would that affect the maximum partition size?
[04:48] <saik0> jrw146, your partition is 10 gigs big
[04:48] <vincentmx> ubuntu, i'd change my nick if i were you, other people would also want that nick
[04:48] <TrendKill> oh and im using ubuntu livecd...
[04:48] <TrendKill> even gparted fails to create it...
[04:48] <ubuntu> yes but i m online with livecd
[04:49] <jimmy_> why doesn't ubuntu come with mplayer? doesn't totem stink
[04:49] <jrw146> saik0: I used the utility in the ubuntu install to automatically partition my drive accordingly. Only a 30gb. But... I've used bigger HDs and bigger partitions than that on other systems.
[04:49] <jimmy_> i can't watch streaming porn with totem
[04:49] <saik0> TrendKill and jrw146. doh, i meant to say that to TrendKill
[04:49] <vincentmx> ubuntu, just type "/nick" and the name you want
[04:49] <jrw146> saik0: Haha, thought so.
[04:49] <vincentmx> yes
[04:49] <vincentmx> :D
[04:49] <Yagisan> jimmy_: It's in universe
[04:49] <mynewnickname> better?
[04:50] <vincentmx> indeed
[04:50] <AlexRM> Thanks who ever helped me, works now
[04:50] <vincentmx> very unique too
[04:50] <mynewnickname> ok, now my problem
[04:50] <mahangu> bur[n] er, but i want to copy files to my shuffle, not music
[04:50] <vincentmx> ask away, mynewnickname
[04:50] <jimmy_> Yagisan, but i get Dependent errors when trying to install it
[04:50] <mynewnickname> i ve partioned my hd and then installed windows
[04:50] <TrendKill> saik0, but i dont want to install ubuntu just yet....but actually...your on to something...ill just kill the install right after the partitioning...thanks alot!
[04:50] <vincentmx> yes
[04:50] <mynewnickname> now my grub isnt working
[04:50] <vincentmx> hmm
[04:50] <saik0> TrendKill, no need
[04:50] <AlexRM> but can someone help me with my Surround Sound Problem? I have surround sound working by changing some volumes in Wave Surround, Wave Center, Wave LFE Etc....but now in BMP the Volume bar doesn't work
[04:51] <AlexRM> say if I set the volume to 0 in BMP, the volume level is still the same
[04:51] <mynewnickname> i tried it with http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Bootloader
[04:51] <saik0> TrendKill, youre on the live CD right. you can use parted (CLI tool) or GParted (gtk+ tool)
[04:51] <vincentmx> mynewnickname, you need to add it to your menu.lst
[04:51] <shining_> I've a problem with a laptop, I can't find what I'm missing in the kernel config. the cdrom is showing in /dev/hdc instead of /dev/scd , and I can't enable dma, so it isn't usable
[04:51] <jimmy_> i get error mplayer-586: Depends: libpolyp0 but it is not installable
[04:51] <mynewnickname> but after "grub-install /dev/hda" it says The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[04:52] <hybrid> is tor open?
[04:52] <shining_> any idea?
[04:52] <Yagisan>  jimmy_: mplayer-586 installed fine for me in my i386 chroot (breezy) are you on dapper ?
[04:52] <shining_> anyone with an ich6 laptop ?
[04:52] <vincentmx> mynewnickname, just open a terminal and type sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:53] <trappist> shining_: it's not a scsi cdrom, is it?
[04:53] <hybrid> jimmy_: i compiled mplayer so i could bypass ubuntu's restricted format protection
[04:53] <shining_> trappist: no idea
[04:53] <jimmy_> Yagisan, what is dapper?
[04:53] <trappist> shining_: ide-scsi is deprecated, but there's still a scsi emulation option in the kernel I believe
[04:53] <shining_> trappist: sata maybe? I'm not sure
[04:53] <trappist> shining_: then it's not
[04:53] <shining_> the hard drive shows as /dev/sda
[04:53] <Yagisan> jimmy_: the development version.
[04:54] <trappist> shining_: why can't you enable dma?
[04:54] <Yagisan> hybrid: odd, mine works fine with "restricted formats"
[04:54] <deluxe___> can someone tell me if i can do install of ubuntu using a linksys wusb11 v2.6 wireless adapter
[04:54] <vincentmx> mynewnickname, and add your windows install to it
[04:54] <trappist> hybrid: for restricted formats, just install w32codecs
[04:54] <hybrid> Yagisan: well this is something i started with Warty. I havent tried anything else
[04:55] <shining_> trappist: no idea, but if it's a sata cd, it shouldnt show as /dev/hdc , should it ?
[04:55] <jrw146> I attempted installing 5.10. After all the initial setups, it rebooted as usual, and began unpacking stuff (as usual). After it finished that, it goes to a screen with just a bolded, non blinking _ , left for hours, then I manually restarted. It goes thru the normal boot procedures, but as its about to load the logons/desktop, it simply goes to a blank screen. Tried with 5.04 and doing the...
[04:55] <jrw146> ...same as well. Figured I'd repost if anyone new came in to try to help.
[04:55] <trappist> hybrid: there's nothing in the mplayer build that prevents you from playing those formats.  ubuntu just doesn't ship with the codecs.
[04:55] <Yagisan> jimmy_: If you have esound installed, you may not be able to install libpolyp0 as there is a conflict
[04:55] <hybrid> trappist: yea and the source comes with it
[04:55] <trappist> shining_: never had a sata drive, so I'm not sure, but I wouldn't think so
[04:55] <odin> How do I find out what my PATH is?
[04:55] <Seveas> echo $PATH
[04:55] <trappist> odin: echo $PATH
[04:55] <odin> Thanks
[04:55] <hybrid> it is just something i did in warty and have continued since
[04:56] <hybrid> hey Seveas! long time no see
[04:56] <shining_> trappist: you can't enable dma on sata drives with hdparm -d1, like on ide drives
[04:56] <Seveas> hi
[04:56] <saik0> What might be causing CDs to only boot when no HDDs are present? (cdrom first in BIOS)
[04:56] <trappist> hybrid: a million years ago I wrote this script.  maybe it still works: http://linuxkungfu.org/files/scripts/getmplayer
[04:56] <trappist> shining_: this is true
[04:57] <pu> hello.
[04:57] <vincentmx> hi pu
[04:57] <pu> i've been following this gudie to set up wireless on my laptop - https://wiki.ubuntu.com//SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[04:57] <hybrid> trappist: #easybreezy
[04:57] <pu> and i'm having trouble using modprobe ndiswrapper
[04:57] <shining_> trappist: how can I see which controller the cdrom is using?
[04:57] <Fenomen> Hello people!
[04:58] <vincentmx> hi
[04:58] <vincentmx> pu, could you describe?
[04:58] <Fenomen> Can anyboady help me with some answers
[04:58] <pu> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (...etc...etc.../ndiswrapper.ko)
[04:58] <pu> is what it says..
[04:58] <_jason> Fenomen, just ask, if someone knows you get an answer :D
[04:58] <vincentmx> ok
[04:58] <shining_> I thought it would be the same as the hard drive one, but the hd works fine. I don't get it
[04:59] <Fenomen> OK
[04:59] <shining_> nobody with one of these stupid new laptops ?
[04:59] <Yagisan> night all
[04:59] <pu> walmart laptops? heh
[04:59] <Fenomen> I want to make a preinstallation disk(s) for My UBUNTU
[04:59] <Fenomen> but I can't find a information in the internet how to do that
[04:59] <shining_> pu: ich6 chipset
[05:00] <pu> what does that mean shining?
[05:00] <jrw146> I attempted installing 5.10. After all the initial setups, it rebooted as usual, and began unpacking stuff (as usual). After it finished that, it goes to a screen with just a bolded, non blinking _ , left for hours, then I manually restarted. It goes thru the normal boot procedures, but as its about to load the logons/desktop, it simply goes to a blank screen. Tried with 5.04 and doing the...
[05:00] <pu> not supported?
[05:00] <jrw146> ...same as well. Could it be a video issue? Its a old Geforce4MX PCI.
[05:00] <shining_> pu: it's supported
[05:00] <shining_> pu: just looking for a less stupid user than me so he can tell me if I'm missing a hidden option in the kernel or something
[05:01] <pu> i think if i can just get this working, i can work with ubuntu
[05:01] <Fenomen> Maybe someone knows how to make a Preinstallation disks for UBUNTU 5.10???
[05:02] <pu> thanks for your help shining
[05:02] <No1Viking> !repos
[05:02] <ubotu> repos is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[05:02] <jimmy_> alright i'm going to try to compile mplayer again. i need to change the gcc version i'm using to 3.x how can i do this?
[05:02] <trappist> jimmy_: update-alternatives
[05:03] <shining_> omfg
[05:04] <Fenomen> Does somebody knows something about UBUNTU Preinstallation
[05:04] <trappist> wth, no alternatives for gcc?
[05:04] <Fenomen> Does somebody knows something about UBUNTU Preinstallation
[05:04] <shining_> Fenomen: wtf is that?
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> Fenomen,   care to clarify
[05:04] <jimmy_> trappist, i don't understand update-alternatives
[05:05] <shining_> Fenomen: just build a pc and install ubuntu on it
[05:05] <shining_> jimmy_: it's really hard indeed
[05:05] <trappist> jimmy_: export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4
[05:05] <pu> i think maybe it has something to do with ubuntu installed the wrong driver intially
[05:05] <pu> and i removed with ndiswrapper -e
[05:05] <chrisx1> !find irssi
[05:05] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'irssi' (5 shown): irssi-plugin-icq ;; irssi-scripts ;; irssi-snapshot ;; irssi-snapshot-dev ;; irssi-text.
[05:05] <pu> and then reinstalled the ones i downloaded from web
[05:05] <trappist> chrisx1: you want irssi-text.  why it's called that is beyond me.
[05:06] <Seveas> trappist, there were/are plans for a gui version
[05:06] <hybrid> trappist: because you can compile it with a GUI
[05:06] <hybrid> kinda like mplayer
[05:06] <deltron> mmmm irssi-text :)
[05:07] <hybrid> deltron: yes its a great client
[05:07] <deltron> yeah, my fav :)
[05:07] <hybrid> deltron: i use it on all my boxes
[05:08] <shining_> when you are ssh on the box, and you reboot it, why doesn't it always log out?
[05:08] <shining_> most of the times, it get stuck. how do I kill it?
[05:08] <trappist> imho the gui version should get a special name. xchat is a gui client with an optional cli version, so it makes sense there.
[05:08] <hybrid> shining_: lag
[05:08] <shining_> hybrid: ha
[05:08] <jrw146> *snifflesniffle* Wow, doomed to a life of winblows. What is a poor girl to do? Bah... I'll try again, heh..
[05:08] <jrw146> I attempted installing 5.10. After all the initial setups, it rebooted as usual, and began unpacking stuff (as usual). After it finished that, it goes to a screen with just a bolded, non blinking _ , left for hours, then I manually restarted. It goes thru the normal boot procedures, but as its about to load the logons/desktop, it simply goes to a blank screen. Tried with 5.04 and doing the...
[05:08] <jrw146> ...same as well. Any clues?
[05:08] <hybrid> shining_: i can reset my router and not get disconnected from irc
[05:09] <pu> man, no internet = no ubuntu.. lol
[05:09] <shining_> hybrid: wow, I can't do that
[05:09] <hybrid> shining_: my lag goes over 100
[05:09] <trappist> me neither.  my screen runs on my router :)
[05:09] <hybrid> trappist: wrt?
[05:09] <deltron> lol, I've ben thinking about doing that
[05:09] <trappist> but ssh's keepalive is pretty robust.  you can go a few minutes before it gives up.
[05:10] <maffju> jrw146, maybe x is not properly configured?
[05:10] <shining_> ssh maybe but not irssi
[05:11] <jrw146> maffju: I've not had a chance to configure it... Plus, its an old Geforce4MX PCI. My laptop's Radeon from the same era needed no config.... Hmm...
[05:11] <shining_> btw my router or modem always lose the net connection, it's very annoying
[05:11] <jimmy_> thanks for your help mplaying is install now
[05:11] <shining_> I stayed 10 min there and I'm already shining_
[05:11] <Fenomen> No, the Preinstallation I men, that make one PC, ahd do the own configuration on it, and than make the disk, whith wich I cold install aal the same as it was on my configured system, without the reconfiguring...
[05:12] <shining_> Fenomen: huh
[05:12] <Fenomen> It is as on IBM notebooks is eaven one partition for making the preinstallation disks
[05:13] <jrw146> Fenomen: I wouldn't call that "preinstallation", sounds like you just want to copy your settings to another PC..
[05:13] <jrw146> Fenomen: How to accomplish that... Er.... I'm not certain.
[05:13] <Fenomen> maybe I want to copy my settings to many pc's
[05:13] <redguy> Fenomen: sound like debian's FAI to me. maybe ubuntu can do the same thing?
[05:14] <AlexRM> Hey
[05:14] <redguy> Fenomen: Fully Automated Install if I remember correctly
[05:14] <AlexRM> I would like to Install UT2004 on Ubuntu. How would I do this? Is there a guide somewhere?
[05:14] <Fenomen> Well, I heard, that UBUNTU can do that, but a can't find out How
[05:15] <Fenomen> yes Something like automated installation... but also with all the addons, wich I added when the UBUNTU alredi was installed
[05:15] <trappist> AlexRM: it's pretty straightforward.  first, make sure you have dri enabled - glxinfo | grep rendering - then run the installer.
[05:16] <AlexRM> DRI? what is that?
[05:16] <redguy> Fenomen: well, entering ubuntu FAI in google gives "Installing Ubuntu Linux with FAI - FAIWiki" as the first link
[05:16] <redguy> Fenomen: you didn't look hard, did you?
[05:16] <trappist> AlexRM: direct rendering something
[05:16] <Fenomen> Thanks
[05:16] <shining_> infrastructure maybe
[05:16] <AlexRM> trappist, I have my drivers installed, so they should be already enabled, yes?
[05:16] <guiss> hi, i am trying to set up a debian chroot environment in ubuntu, followed the instructions from http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html and when I change /etc/inittab, the console I assign debian keeps respawning, any help?
[05:16] <Fenomen> Thats meen, that I didn't look hard!!! :)
[05:16] <Fenomen> Ok, thanks
[05:17] <trappist> AlexRM: depends.  run glxinfo | grep rendering to find out.
[05:17] <AlexRM> trappist, yep, done it-s enabled
[05:17] <AlexRM> so I just put the disc in, and run the installed? and thats it done?
[05:17] <AlexRM> installer*
[05:18] <AlexRM> trappist, does it matter if im on 64bit Linux?
[05:18] <trappist> AlexRM: well I don't know if the linux installer is on the cd - you may have to download that.
[05:18] <shining_> it's crap when you ssh from a distrib using utf8 on one using iso. what can I do?
[05:18] <trappist> AlexRM: there's an amd64 installer.  google it :)
[05:18] <AlexRM> trappist, Cool ok, sorry - new to all this stuff
[05:18] <MikeG> Help. Where is 'acroread' repository?
[05:18] <pu> can somebody tell me what this means?
[05:18] <pu> i used the command "modprobe ndiswrapper"
[05:19] <pu> and this was the response i received..
[05:19] <pu> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[05:19] <trappist> pu: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[05:19] <karlan> how can i get access to my windows partition?
[05:19] <saik0> MikeG, you would probably be better off using evince, unless you're sure you want abobe's reader
[05:19] <shining_> do I need to use the same locale on both system ?
[05:20] <MikeG> Said0, I'll try evince first. Never used it. Thanks.
[05:20] <jeff303> hi, does anyone know if the monitor power-saving settings have change from hoary -> breezy?
[05:20] <trappist> karlan: use the 'umask=0' option in your /etc/fstab
[05:20] <saik0> MikeG, np problem. btw it comes with breezy
[05:21] <jrw146> I attempted installing 5.10. After all the initial setups, it rebooted as usual, and began unpacking stuff (as usual). After it finished that, it goes to a screen with just a bolded, non blinking _ , left for hours, then I manually restarted. It goes thru the normal boot procedures, but as its about to load the logons/desktop, it simply goes to a blank screen. Tried with 5.04 and doing the...
[05:22] <jrw146> ...same as well. If it's an X related problem, how abouts do I go to solve it?
[05:22] <MikeG> saik0, evince? Is that correct sp. can't apt-get it
[05:22] <evilmegaman> hi, I think I want to compile my own kernel but I don't know how to exactly. Is there any guides I can use?
[05:22] <chrisx1> any ideas about this E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:22] <nassif> hi all ... yehaa :) it works
[05:23] <trappist> jrw146: doesn't sound like an X problem, unfortunately
[05:23] <karlan> trappist, i havent asked anything yet?
[05:23] <MikeG> saik0, never mind. got it.
[05:23] <Slant_Laptop> christel, somethign went wrong in the package scripts. Do you have the output from before that point?
[05:23] <trappist> karlan: oh I was probably trying to answer somebody else.  please disregard :)
[05:23] <karlan> :p
[05:23] <jrw146> trappist: It was mentioned earlier, butthey never reiterated. *shrug* Any clues yourself?
[05:23] <karlan> i have some questions thou :-)
[05:23] <saik0> MikeG, good to hear
[05:23] <AlexRM> trappist, I can't find hte 64bit installer anywhere, do you know where it is?
[05:24] <nassif> how do i make ubuntu pop up a window if i.e. firefox wants to connect to its starts page but the dial in connection is not already established ?
[05:24] <karlan> first off, i am having some trouble with my sound. it works fine in ubuntu, but not in xmms. where do i choose the right soundcard etc in xmms?
[05:24] <maffju> jrw146, i still think it might be an x related problem - try replacing "radeon" (or whatever driver you have) by "vesa" in your /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[05:25] <trappist> jrw146: it sounds like what I got with a poorly built custom kernel back in the 2.5.x days.  in your case it just sounds like a bad install.  maybe a bad cd.
[05:25] <jrw146> maffju: But how do I actually do that when I'm never given the opporitunity?
[05:25] <pu> trappist, even with sudo, i get the same response..
[05:25] <jrw146> trappist: 5.04 is one of the officially pressed CDs mailed to me, 5.10 is from the official page that I burnt. Both doing the same thing.
[05:25] <saik0> karlan, set xmms to use esd
[05:26] <maffju> jrw146, can you start the pc with a live cd?
[05:26] <jrw146> maffju: Haven't tried any of the ubuntu Lives, but my Knoppix live works
[05:26] <trappist> jrw146: does ctrl-alt-f3 (or f2 or f4 etc.) do anything?
[05:26] <maffju> jrw146, so can use a live cd, mount the hard drive and change the xorg.conf
[05:27] <karlan> saik0, got it to work :-) thx
[05:27] <jonathon> gday
[05:27] <evilmegaman> Where do I download the latest kernel? so I can compile it myself?
[05:27] <maffju> jrw146, oh, sure, trappist's suggestion is good!
[05:27] <karlan> one more question, how can i get my back and forward-button to work on my logitech mx510 in firefox etc?
[05:27] <jonathon> i god a simple kind of question for anyone awake
[05:27] <saik0> karlan, yep, anytime
[05:28] <jonathon> how do u change the background screen that comes up when the gnome splash is loading up?
[05:28] <jrw146> trappist: pressed at what time? Haven't attempted that... And when I do, what is it supposed to accomplish? Going to reinstall ubuntu and see what happens.
[05:28] <AlexRM> Does anyone know where I can get a UT2004 64BIT installer?
[05:28] <saik0> karlan, might want to look into beep-media-player. in essence xmms with gtk
[05:28] <jonathon> how do u change the background screen that comes up when the gnome splash is loading up?
[05:28] <maffju> jrw146, pressing ctrl-alt-f2 will show a non-graphical login
[05:29] <maffju> jrw146, if it's an x related problem, it should work
[05:29] <Evaso> any body is trying to backport Kino 0.8.0?
[05:29] <maffju> jrw146, if it doesn't work, I'm on the wrong track
[05:29] <morgania> hi all
[05:29] <trappist> jrw146: considering when it occurs, I don't think it's a boot issue.  ctrl-alt-f3 should take you to a different virtual console, if it exists, from which you should be able to accomplish something.
[05:30] <AlexRM> Please, Does anyone know where a 64BIT UT2004 Installer is?
[05:30] <karlan> saik0, beep-media-player? got any url?
[05:30] <NoUse> karlan it's in synaptic/apt
[05:30] <jrw146> Trappist/Maffju: Will try it out, Will pop back in within 2-3 hours depending on how long it takes to reinstall everything.
[05:31] <saik0> karlan, apt-get install beep-media-player, if u wanna check it out look it up at freshmeat.net
[05:31] <karlan> ok, nice
[05:31] <karlan> will do :)
[05:31] <maffju> jrw146, good luck
[05:31] <karlan> any got an answer on my mouse-question? :)
[05:32] <Seveas> karlan, a cat is the answer to all mouse problems
[05:32] <jonathon> how do find out what daemons are running?
[05:32] <Seveas> jonathon, ps f -e
[05:32] <Seveas> or ps aux
[05:32] <Davey> unfortunately, Seveas, cats have their own problems :/
[05:32] <AlexRM> Please, can someone help me??
[05:32] <karlan> Seveas, :p
[05:32] <morgania> i install mubuntu on my pc, and when i whant to install a tar.gz the linux don`t know where, or how to use, the c compiler for extract tar.gz
[05:33] <hybrid> Seveas karlan remember the "cueCat"?
[05:33] <trappist> AlexRM: looks like the linux installer is on the cdrom and includes amd64 binaries
[05:33] <karlan> hybrid, not really
[05:33] <Seveas> !tell morgania about compiling
[05:33] <AlexRM> trappist, ok - I shall install my dvd driver now
[05:33] <AlexRM> brb
[05:33] <hybrid> karlan: it was an input device that scan barcodes and let you do stuff with them online
[05:33] <jimmy_> exit
[05:33] <Seveas> karlan, search the wiki for a page with ManyMouseButtons in the title
[05:33] <Seveas> I'm pretty sire there is one
[05:34] <karlan> hybrid, hmm, not sure that i know what you mean.
[05:34] <mahangu> im having trouble writing files to my ipod shuffle
[05:34] <mahangu> it mounts alright
[05:34] <mahangu> but with chmod 700
[05:34] <jonathon> once you find the daemon you want how do you make it activate when  your gnome starts?
[05:34] <mahangu> so i cant write files to it
[05:34] <saik0> Are there any channels where i could get help with hardware related issues?
[05:34] <Seveas> saik0, this one is a good start
[05:35] <karlan> saik0, damn, beep is much better :-) thx
[05:35] <Seveas> and depending on the hardware there may be other channels too
[05:35] <bluefoxicy>  11:34:26 up 86 days, 22:58,  5 users,  load average: 0.24, 0.26, 0.17
[05:35] <mindamp> how do i use sed to print only the first three characters from line 1 of a file?
[05:35] <bluefoxicy> I totally 86'd windows' uptime.
[05:35] <saik0> Seveas, I've asked here a few times. Got a mobo that only boots CDs if there are no HDDs present (proper boot order)
[05:35] <vardhan> Hi, which package in dapper has xorgcfg ?
[05:35] <Seveas> bluefoxicy, and missed the latest 20 kernel security fixes...
[05:36] <trappist> Seveas: after a few tries it's ManyButtonsMouse rather than ManyMouseButtons
[05:36] <Seveas> saik0, that really sounds like an incorrect boot order in the bios
[05:36] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  i'm inside a NAT network.  I'm aware of the risk.
[05:36] <jonathon> how can you make commands execute at login automatically?
[05:36] <saik0> Seveas, i want as far as rmoving all but cdrom from the boot order. still boots HDDs
[05:36] <trappist> jonathon: put them in your .bashrc
[05:36] <morgania> root@ubuntu:/programe/streamripper/streamripper-1.61.17# ./configure
[05:36] <morgania> checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
[05:36] <morgania> checking whether build environment is sane... yes
[05:37] <morgania> checking for gawk... no
[05:37] <morgania> checking for mawk... mawk
[05:37] <morgania> checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... no
[05:37] <morgania> checking for gcc... gcc
[05:37] <trappist> gah.
[05:37] <Seveas> no pasting in here
[05:37] <Naruto_UzumakiMT> hi
[05:37] <Seveas> don't even think about getting help anymore
[05:37] <bluefoxicy> rafb.net/paste
[05:37] <KevinColyer> sorry to be a pain and off topic but I am having a problem and can't seem to find a solution. I installed Breezy with a UK keyboard, but my user has a French keyboard. How do I change the login/system keymap to French? Once in the Desktop there is no problem
[05:37] <steve6> Ubuntu!
[05:37] <karlan> this i remember i got it to work a long time ago on my debianmachine, but how do i get access to my ntfs partitions on my computer?
[05:37] <Naruto_UzumakiMT> uhm, i have a question about firefox update...
[05:38] <Seveas> karlan, mount them :)
[05:38] <nassif> how do i manage dial on demand ?
[05:38] <karlan> Seveas, is it just to mount them? i remember that i had to get some program to get it to work last time
[05:39] <steve6> for dsl nassif?
[05:39] <yoav> can any one point me out to a channel that has languauge support?
[05:39] <megngab> hi, i'm a newbie and i have a very basic question
[05:39] <Seveas> karlan, mounting is enough
[05:39] <Seveas> megngab, ask away :)
[05:39] <nassif> steve6, nope : analog modem
[05:39] <karlan> Seveas, oh okay. how do i get access to them? :) when i try to access them, i get an errormsg that says that i dont have any rights to view them
[05:39] <Seveas> yoav, which langiage?
[05:40] <megngab> i have installed my ubuntu 5.10 but i don't know what is the defaul super user password?
[05:40] <Naruto_UzumakiMT> does someone here know when firefox 1.5 will be in update sources?
[05:40] <Seveas> karlan, use -o umask=0000 in the mount command
[05:40] <Seveas> Naruto_UzumakiMT, probably never
[05:40] <Naruto_UzumakiMT> there is no password, do your stuff with sudo and your password
[05:40] <ClayG> can you do x over ssh without installing/enabling XDM
[05:40] <Seveas> !tell megngab about root
[05:40] <yoav> thanks Seveas - hebrew. or any non latin actually, i guess its the same trick
[05:40] <Seveas> ClayG, ssh -X
[05:40] <Seveas> that's enough :)
[05:40] <karlan> oh ok
[05:40] <karlan> will try
[05:40] <ClayG> the remote node doesn't need xdm?
[05:40] <Seveas> yoav, #ubuntu-il or #ubuntu-he perhaps
[05:40] <megngab> ok, thanks!
[05:40] <Seveas> ClayG, no
[05:41] <ClayG> I installed it last night on it, and today it will not log in
[05:41] <ClayG> when i look in /etc/init.d/
[05:41] <ClayG> i noticed xdm,kdm,and gdm
[05:41] <yoav> thank Seveas
[05:41] <christian_> hi all
[05:41] <Jonne> small question: how do you set the dns server address from command line?
[05:41] <Naruto_UzumakiMT> Seveas: why wont there be this update? Thats not nice :(
[05:41] <saik0> Seveas, know anyplace somebody might be able to help with that mobo problem?
[05:41] <megngab> opppppps ....
[05:41] <Seveas> Jonne, nano /etc/resolv.conf
[05:41] <Jonne> tnx
[05:41] <christian_> is there a way to display my second hard disk into Resources men?
[05:41] <Seveas> saik0, not really
[05:41] <ClayG> also the remote "server" that i ssh into instead of booting into a graphical login screen boots into what you would see if you ctrl/alt/f1
[05:42] <megngab> when you say sudo, what do you mean?
[05:42] <Amaranth> !sudo
[05:42] <Taa5i__> What does Could not read data: success mean?  And why does rdate keep mailing me about it please?
[05:42] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, sudo is the command to get superuser privileges, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[05:42] <Naruto_UzumakiMT> it is a commmand
[05:42] <ClayG> I want to remove all of these gdm,kdm,and xdm
[05:42] <Seveas> Naruto_UzumakiMT, because it would require a lot of things in main to be recompiled against something in -updates
[05:42] <ClayG> then sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[05:42] <Naruto_UzumakiMT> type "sudo <command>"
[05:42] <ClayG> if this is safe
[05:42] <Seveas> which is simply not done
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> ClayG,  if you remove gdm - you cant configure it..
[05:43] <megngab> like when i want to modify the fstab file, i then type the command "sudo vi fstab"...
[05:43] <Naruto_UzumakiMT> Seveas: doh! Ok, then i use the official one...
[05:43] <Naruto_UzumakiMT> yes megngab
[05:43] <AlexRM> Hi,
[05:43] <megngab> thanks a lot!
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> ClayG,  if you want to boot to the console by default - just disable the gdm/xdm/kdm services
[05:44] <Everin> Seveas,
[05:44] <steve6> does ubunto have an installer worth a shit? or is it ugly like gentoo
[05:44] <AlexRM> How do I start the UT2004 Linux Installer?
[05:44] <AlexRM> I went sudo linux-installer.sh but it said command not found
[05:44] <Everin> me i show u my problm /
[05:44] <Everin> ?
[05:44] <megngab> another question ...
[05:44] <ClayG> so is gdm ONLY in the /init.d?
[05:44] <Naruto_UzumakiMT> lol, why must the installer be colorful and styled, it must u#install a system and not look godd
[05:44] <ardchoille> w00t! This distro rocks!
[05:44] <megngab> how do i setup my webcam?
[05:44] <ClayG> that isn't just a call to it when my system starts up?
[05:44] <trappist> AlexRM: sudo sh /path/to/linux-installer.sh
[05:45] <ardchoille> trappist: hi
[05:45] <ardchoille> I remember that nick from a idff channel a long time ago
[05:45] <trappist> ardchoille: probably #mandrake
[05:45] <ardchoille> yep
[05:46] <Naruto_UzumakiMT> bye
[05:46] <zlaja> hey guys! anyone who knows how i disable my x server?
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> ClayG,  the run levels start th different services,  read up on how the "SysV" init system works. there are some SysV config tools you can instal also,
[05:46] <zlaja> i want to install a nvidia gfx-driver
[05:46] <Taa5i> I downloaded recently an Ubuntu-server ISO, however at boot trying to boot server or server-expert to install failed saying no such kernel.  I then checked the syslinux.cfg file and saw no option for those, despite them being listed in the Help Boot Options text.
[05:46] <trappist> zlaja: uninstalling it is pretty effective at disabling it
[05:46] <Naruto_UzumakiMT> #quit no FF 1.5 in update source :(
[05:46] <ClayG> nah, I'll erase gdm, xdm and kdm from init.d
[05:47] <ClayG> this will be the fastest way to see if i can fix it, it wont boot into graphical now anywaty
[05:47] <Taa5i> Is it the case that on an ubuntu-server cd, linux and expert are actually server and expert-server, and the documentation is just wildly misleading?
[05:47] <ardchoille> zlaja: you can just go to runlevel 3 and install the driver there
[05:47] <trappist> ClayG: no, just use update-rc.d for that - taking them out of init.d is not the way to go
[05:47] <saik0> zlaja, theres is an ubuntu way to install
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> ClayG,  thats like hitting a fly with a hammer - its wrth wile to learn the RIGHT way to do what you are trying to do.
[05:47] <megngab> anybody can help me how to setup my webcam in ubuntu 5.10?
[05:47] <Everin> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables ; what meens that ?
[05:47] <Seveas> !tell Everin about compiling
[05:48] <zlaja> woot?
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> ClayG,  you dont want to delete them from the /etc/init.d/
[05:48] <zlaja> im new at linux
[05:48] <Taa5i> !tell Taa5i about rdate
[05:48] <saik0> zlaja, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:48] <ClayG> I can't just sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm and have it popped back in there?
[05:49] <pavka> Hello
[05:49] <karlan> Seveas, im having trouble to mount. it seems that the ntfs partition is already mounted, but in my filemanager, the icon has an red marker with an X on. what am i doing wrong?
[05:49] <Everin> ubutntu it is the only linux distribution with i have problems to install tar.gz ....why ?
[05:49] <trappist> ClayG: sudo apt-get install bum and use bum - it's a pretty handy app for managing your services
[05:49] <Seveas> karlan, mount -o remount,umask=0000
[05:49] <pavka> Where is solved problems for dapper?
[05:49] <BooZee> hello. what is "libqt3c102-mt" ?
[05:49] <Seveas> that'll remount it and set the umask :)
[05:50] <ClayG> I'll do that
[05:50] <Seveas> BooZee, a dependency of skype I guess
[05:50] <ClayG> here is another problem
[05:50] <Seveas> it's a nonexistent package
[05:50] <BooZee> Seveas: and how can I get it?
[05:50] <Seveas> BooZee, not
[05:50] <ClayG> i wake up this morning and my sshtoy/backup computer i usually ssh into gives me a warning about an RSA change and a possible man in the middle attack
[05:50] <ClayG> it wont evenlet me try to log in
[05:50] <BooZee> Seveas: synaptic syas it's not installable
[05:50] <Seveas> if it is indeed skype you're trying to install: /msg ubotu skype
[05:50] <ClayG> so i delete /home/clay/.ssh/<forgotfilename>
[05:50] <megngab> anyone who can help me how to setup my webcam in ubuntu 5.10?
[05:50] <ClayG> bascially a list of known trusted compturs
[05:51] <BooZee> Seveas: what not? I can't get it? why?
[05:51] <Seveas> BooZee, that libqt3 package does not exist in Ubuntu
[05:51] <trappist> ClayG: just remove the offending entry (ssh gives you the line number) from ~/.ssh/known_hosts
[05:51] <Seveas> you need a correct version of skype
[05:51] <chenman> jj
[05:51] <deFrysk> BooZee, if its skype get the static,deb its easyer to install , no deps
[05:51] <NoUse> !tell BooZee about skype
[05:52] <deFrysk> BooZee, if its opera same thing
[05:52] <karlan> Seveas, when i try that, i only get the helpfile for the command mount
[05:52] <BooZee> k. 10x
[05:52] <megngab> Seveas, can I use webcam in ubuntu? how?
[05:52] <bluefoxicy> there's 53 Xservers
[05:52] <karlan> ah, big 'O' :-)
[05:54] <karlan> Seveas, this is the message i get, and still not working. http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5425
[05:55] <johnsie2k> is there a Firefox 1.5.deb?
[05:56] <NoUse> johnsie2k no, there are instructions to install it manually on the wiki
[05:56] <johnsie2k> arg
[05:56] <deFrysk> johnsie2k, also see /topic
[05:56] <jgrieves> johnsie2k firefox is integrated into 5.10 more than you think :)
[05:56] <johnsie2k> is that why i always have to tinker to speed things up? :-)
[05:57] <thcPoL> algun espaol?
[05:57] <thcPoL> tengo una duda...
[05:57] <jgrieves> johnsie2k nah that's just linux in generel
[05:57] <jgrieves> :)
[05:57] <Seveas> karlan, mount -o remount,umask=0000 /dev/hda1
[05:57] <Seveas> same for hdb1 and c1
[05:57] <Seveas> off even
[05:58] <rudiz> johnsie2k,https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion?highlight=%28firefox%29%7C%28version%29%7C%28new%29
[05:58] <thcPoL> tengo una duda
[05:58] <karlan> Seveas, still not working :c i did the "sudo mount -o remount,umask=0000 /dev/hda1" and entered the password. still not getting acces thou
[05:59] <thcPoL> alguien me puede ayudar?
[05:59] <johnsie2k> thanks :-)
[06:01] <ClayG> trappist: is bum a gui?
[06:01] <deFrysk> !es
[06:01] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:02] <rudiz> yes bum is gui
[06:03] <mamoru> i have added a new partition with cfdisk. how can i format it?
[06:03] <mamoru> and what else should i do to use it under ubuntu?
[06:04] <mrphillips> when i boot the ubuntu live cd (just got it today) once it has finished it just shows a brown screen?
[06:05] <johnsie2k> meh... too much work, too little time.
[06:05] <mrphillips> ay?
[06:05] <karlan> Seveas, got tired of me already? :-)
[06:06] <mrphillips> ne body got ne ideas why my live cd boots and then goes to a brown screen
[06:06] <SockerFot> hey, is there any way to like, LINK files from windows to my ubuntu (i am using partition)? i have loads of music on windows
[06:06] <deltron> SockerFot: samba :)
[06:06] <valles> PHP4 APACHE FIREFOX D/L problem Anyone????
[06:06] <deltron> SockerFot: you mean on the network, or locally
[06:06] <SockerFot> deltron, wich is?
[06:06] <NoUse> valles maybe if your question was more vague
[06:06] <SockerFot> i mean link between two harddrives
[06:07] <deltron> oh
[06:07] <mrphillips> is there any know compatability issues with athlon xp's?
[06:07] <NoUse> mrphillips I use ubuntu on my XP without any problem
[06:07] <valles> Ok...  I can't get firefox execute the php files... he wants to download them
[06:07] <trappist> valles: it's not firefox's fault.  it's the webserver's fault.
[06:07] <bluefoxicy> Wow
[06:08] <NoUse> valles yeah you haven't configured apache properly
[06:08] <trappist> valles: firefox doesn't execute php files.  the webserver does.
[06:08] <bluefoxicy> Thunderbird 1.0.7 uses 60M of ram (differential between output of top before and after)
[06:08] <NoUse> !tell valles about php
[06:08] <valles> trappist: ahhmm I see
[06:08] <mrphillips> mine boots and does all its stuff and then just goes to a brown screen
[06:08] <bluefoxicy> and Thunderbird 1.5rc1 uses 26M
[06:08] <valles> trappist: I did eerything on the wiki
[06:08] <SockerFot> oh NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
[06:08] <deltron> easy, you mount the drive, like mount /dev/hdc1 /mnt/windows -t ntfs or something like that
[06:08] <valles> trappist: and It still doesn't work
[06:08] <deltron> SockerFot: ^^
[06:08] <SockerFot> oooooooooh noooo no. my sound has stopped working
[06:09] <deltron> bbl
[06:09] <deltron> lunchtime
[06:09] <trappist> valles: apache2 or 1.3.x?
[06:09] <valles> trappist: have been pn it for two days... and it reeks...
[06:09] <SockerFot> jesus f-cking christ. my sound! :(:(:(
[06:09] <valles> trappist: 2
[06:09] <valles> trappist: apache 2 php4
[06:09] <trappist> valles: php4 or 5
[06:09] <mrphillips> brown screen anyone?
[06:09] <trappist> oops
[06:09] <valles> trappist: php4
[06:10] <NoUse> SockerFot I think we heard you the first time
[06:10] <valles> I noticed that in my etc folder I have apache and apache2 folders...
[06:10] <trappist> valles: sudo ln -s /etc/apache2/mods-available/php4* /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/
[06:10] <NoUse> valles ubotu sent you a link to a wiki article on how to set up PHP
[06:11] <trappist> valles: or use a2enmod
[06:11] <valles> NoUse: I was on that wiki for two days I have had enough...
[06:11] <NetGrunt> hi
[06:11] <NoUse> valles have you read this article?
[06:12] <NetGrunt> does anybody know how can I play .wmv video files on ubuntu ?? thanks
[06:12] <valles> NoUse: yes...
[06:12] <karlan> anyone who got a Logitech MX510 or another mouse that has back/forward buttons?
[06:12] <valles> trappist: i'll check...
[06:12] <NoUse> valles thats what I used, it worked great
[06:12] <trucmuch> bonsoir
[06:12] <trappist> valles: any php4 goodies in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled?
[06:12] <SockerFot> how do i identify my sound card?
[06:13] <trappist> SockerFot: lspci
[06:13] <trucmuch> comenkon monte une partition fat 32 avec toute permisssion pour tous tou simplement ?
[06:13] <jkelly2005> im having some problems with /etc/fstab, i need to mount a separate partition that i can write to. i can mount the partition as a user but i need to be root to write to the partition, any ideas on what i could do?
[06:13] <trappist> !fr
[06:13] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[06:13] <karlan> NetGrunt, VLC reads wmv-files if im not misstaken
[06:13] <trucmuch> oups sorry
[06:13] <trappist> jkelly2005: mount with umask=0 or uid=1000
[06:13] <jkelly2005> ok, thanks
[06:14] <trappist> !tell NetGrunt about w32codecs
[06:14] <valles> trappist: i checked and there were a lot of files
[06:14] <valles> trappist: php4.conf and php4.load
[06:16] <valles> trappist: does that help?
[06:16] <trappist> valles: have you restarted apache2 lately? have you checked your logs?
[06:16] <valles> I have restarted a couple of tmes... not after the link I just made
[06:18] <mamoru> how to format a partiiton
[06:18] <mamoru> ?
[06:19] <valles> trappist: are you there
[06:19] <chrisx1> can any1 access http://86.8.48.207
[06:20] <_jason> chrisx1, yes
[06:20] <trappist> valles: you just made those links? they're vital.  restart apache2 and try again.
[06:20] <mamoru> chrisx1, yes
[06:20] <_jason> chrisx1, well it says "placeholder page"
[06:20] <chrisx1> ty its debian apache?
[06:20] <chrisx1> ta ppl
[06:20] <chrisx1> yay
[06:20] <chrisx1> port forward works
[06:20] <vir> do anybody know from which package i get a "/etc/init.d/cpufrequtils"? I've install "cpufrequtils" but there are no init scripts
[06:21] <valles> trappist: They were there before
[06:21] <trappist> valles: check your apache2 logs
[06:21] <yapyccky> hello, how is possible to make the movement of toutchpad slower?..its too fast now...
[06:21] <valles> trappist: where?
[06:22] <valles> trappist: where?
[06:22] <trappist> valles: /var/log/apache2/error.log
[06:23] <valles> trappist: I have two files... error.log and error.log.1
[06:23] <AlexRM> Hey,
[06:23] <grae> loking for help with new install on dual AMD machine
[06:24] <AlexRM> I just installed UT2004 - but when I go to the directory (/usr/var/games) or what ever it is, If I type ut2004 it doesn't work. But if I type sudo ut2004 it works
[06:24] <AlexRM> why is this? can't I run it as a noremal user
[06:25] <valles> trappist: [Sat Dec 03 18:12:03 2005]  [error]  [client 127.0.0.1]  File does not exist: /var/www/favicon.ico
[06:25] <valles> [Sat Dec 03 18:30:37 2005]  [notice]  caught SIGTERM, shutting down
[06:25] <trappist> valles: that's not it
[06:25] <trappist> and today's not dec 3
[06:25] <valles> trappist: there is nothing on the other one
[06:26] <grae> installed the latest release on dual 275 but OS only sees 1 cpu
[06:26] <trappist> valles: use tail to look at the end of the logfile
[06:26] <valles> trappist: caught SIGTERM, shutting down
[06:26] <valles> PHP/4.3.10-10ubuntu4.2 configured -- resuming normal operations
[06:27] <valles> that's the last line
[06:27] <valles> repeated three times
[06:28] <trappist> valles: grep AddType /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php4.conf
[06:31] <Zaphod_42> hi
[06:32] <thomerz> hi, how do i set an application as default for an filetype?
[06:32] <valles> trappist: IT WORKED...
[06:33] <trappist> heh
[06:33] <valles> trappist: MY APACHE ejecutes PHP4....
[06:33] <Milleniumgroup> anyone using gaim? how do i add new themes? I tried to place  folder in the same area the themes are saved..it doesn't work.. it doesn't show up...any ideas?
[06:33] <valles> trappist: You are a Genious...
[06:33] <valles> trappist: thanks for not reffering me to the wiki again and for you patience...
[06:33] <trappist> valles: I didn't tell you to do anything that's not in the wiki, just so you know
[06:33] <valles> trappist: your undying patience...
[06:34] <NoUse> Milleniumgroup it's in preferences, you open the smiley chooser and drag and drop themes in there
[06:36] <mrphillips> has anyone got any ideas why my live cd boots to a brown screen ive googled it and people with mac's have had similiar problems, i have an amd athlon xp, and badger version of ubuntu
[06:36] <NetGrunt> trappist, thanks for the tip about w32 codecs, it works!!
[06:36] <chemaFPA> Hi, I use xubuntu, Xorg work perfect, but late I install xdm and dont start. Simply try to run, and then back to the terminal without any error, Startx work perfectly
[06:36] <trappist> shore does :)
[06:37] <trappist> chemaFPA: how are you running xdm
[06:37] <digitize> !backports
[06:37] <ubotu> well, backports is Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[06:37] <mamoru> people, how to format a partition?
[06:38] <Milleniumgroup> NoUse, yeah but those are smiley themes, im talking about normal themes... like making gaime look like msn or like an alien etc etc etc ?
[06:38] <Seveas> mamoru, mkfs /dev/your_partition
[06:38] <chemaFPA> first only with the apt-get configuration, in the boot i can see startx trying to run. And in the terminal with "sudo xdm"
[06:38] <Talisker> Ok, so I installed grub over lilo on hd0, and now my system won't load, I get "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(3,1)
[06:38] <lluis> Anyone has a NOKIA D211 PCMCIA card working?
[06:39] <Seveas> Talisker, either menu.lst is bad or your initrd is broken
[06:40] <ReleaseX> what is better to use, nvidia cards or ati cards
[06:40] <Seveas> ReleaseX, ati
[06:40] <zlaja> guys how do i shut down x server? without uninstalling it as someone else said
[06:40] <trappist> ReleaseX: nvidia
[06:40] <ReleaseX> seveas, ok thanks
[06:40] <Seveas> zlaja, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:40] <digitize> Seveas: you think? for linux?
[06:40] <zlaja> thanks!
[06:40] <Milleniumgroup> zlaja ctrl+alt+backspace
[06:40] <digitize> i'm not disagreeing, just curious
[06:40] <jgrieves> Seveas i think you were helping my yesterday with gdmflexiserver --xnest, which opens up a window for me, and then closes with no errors
[06:40] <Seveas> digitize, yeah, with their latest commercial drivers they win that part again
[06:41] <digitize> ah i see
[06:41] <Seveas> and the open source ati drivers beat the hell out of the open source nvidia drivers
[06:41] <trappist> nvidia has a better history (imo) of supporting linux, and nvidia drivers don't b0rk your display when you turn composite on.  and nvidia's drivers are easier to install.
[06:41] <Talisker> so what do I do about that?
[06:41] <Seveas> jgrieves, not impossible, I remember helping someone with gdmflexiserver --xnest
[06:41] <digitize> it doesn't matter too much either way i suppose, i have an old nvidia card, not being a gamer and all
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. got an external usb hard drive with 2 partitions.. it was seen and auto mounted fine.. but partition 1 got put on /media/usbdisk whild 2 was put on /media/sda2   -  anyone have a clue where to look to make it use sda1 instead? or should i just manually mount the thing.
[06:41] <B_166-ER-X> legacy !
[06:41] <jgrieves> Seveas any ideas on that problem?  Xnest seems to laod fine
[06:42] <Seveas> jgrieves, what was the problem again?
[06:42] <jgrieves> Seveas but gdmflexiserver --xnest opens a new window, loads a black background and then closes
[06:42] <Talisker> Seveas, would reinstalling lilo help?
[06:42] <jgrieves> when run from term no error
[06:42] <Seveas> Talisker, maybe
[06:42] <Seveas> jgrieves, that's weird..
[06:42] <Seveas> did you install the xnest package and do you normally use gdm or kdm?
[06:43] <jgrieves> Seveas lol
[06:43] <jgrieves> Seveas installed xnest
[06:43] <Talisker> I don't know, I use gdm
[06:43] <jgrieves> Seveas gdm usually
[06:43] <Seveas> jgrieves, gdmfexiserver will only function in a gdm controlled environment
[06:44] <Seveas> Talisker, that question was for jgrieves ;)
[06:44] <jgrieves> Seveas ok, it seems to be?
[06:44] <smo> I could be wrong (my ubuntu machines are headless), but doesn't gdm drop logs in /var/logs ?  If there's no errors on the terminal, that's where I'd look next
[06:44] <Seveas> smo, indeed
[06:44] <jgrieves> hmm insteresting
[06:45] <Seveas> jgrieves, try smo's suggestion and look at the logs
[06:45] <jgrieves> will check logs
[06:45] <jgrieves> Seveas but now its complaining about .Xauthority
[06:45] <jgrieves> not being setup correctly
[06:45] <Seveas> after logging in?
[06:45] <jgrieves> Seveas course that is with using sudo gdm...
[06:45] <Marco`> hi
[06:45] <Seveas> nono
[06:45] <Seveas> no sudo
[06:45] <jgrieves> ok, was just for kicks, checking logs
[06:45] <Marco`> how to get onboard networking on my nForce2 working..
[06:45] <B7su4> how can i play mp3?
[06:46] <Seveas> Marco`, modprobe forcedeth
[06:46] <Marco`> is loaded
[06:46] <Seveas> !tell B7su4 about mp3
[06:46] <korhalf> any of you guys ever try Quod Libet?
[06:46] <cristian> hello everybody
[06:46] <korhalf> i think its the best mp3 player around, i used to be a BMP fan
[06:46] <Milleniumgroup> nvm I solved it.. I had a wrong tarball
[06:47] <m4v1s> i am still having trouble resizing my ntfs partition to fit ubuntu on my laptop
[06:47] <m4v1s> im currently on the live cd version
[06:47] <mrkoje> is there anything like crossover office besides wine... that is somewhat free
[06:47] <jgrieves> Seveas smo, after clearing gdm logs and re-running no log in /var/log/gdm/
[06:47] <Seveas> mrkoje, cedega
[06:47] <mrkoje> sevas: thanks
[06:47] <Seveas> jgrieves, in Xorg.0.log?
[06:47] <Marco`> B7su4: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ubuntu+%2B+mp3&btnG=Google+Search
[06:47] <EdLin> mrkoje, you can get the cvs version of cedega for free, but the regular, complete and less buggy version, is commercial.
[06:48] <Marco`> Seveas: any more suggestions on my network chip
[06:48] <Marco`> never worked w/ Debian too
[06:48] <jgrieves> Seveas smo, oh thre it is xnest warning: unhandled event
[06:48] <Seveas> Marco`, if forcedeth doesn't solve it: -ENOCLUE
[06:49] <zlaja> how was i supposed to type to shut down x server and start it again?
[06:49] <zlaja> sorry but i need to type it down on a paper ;D
[06:49] <m4v1s> should i resize the ntfs partition with the livecd tool or use the install disk?
[06:49] <Marco`> zlaja ctrl-alt-backspace ?
[06:49] <Seveas> zlaja, sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[06:49] <trappist> m4v1s: either is fine.  use windows to defrag it first though.
[06:49] <m4v1s> of course
[06:50] <zlaja> thanks once again guys :D
[06:50] <m4v1s> thank you
[06:50] <jgrieves> Seveas smo, (WW) Open APM failed (/dev/apm_bios) (No such file or directory)
[06:50] <jgrieves> Seveas smo, xnest warning: unhandled event
[06:50] <m4v1s> btw, how much space does ubuntu require?
[06:50] <xptk> hi, why ubuntu if I have debian, I need to know your advantages
[06:51] <m4v1s> ive heard 3 gigs 6 gigs 10+ im not going to use it as my primary os but id like to be able to use it and have space...
[06:52] <EdLin> xptk, more recent and well integrated desktop software
[06:52] <tonyyarusso> What can I use to reference "any file in this directory plus any files in any subdirectories"?  Like a super-*.* kind of thing.
[06:52] <devilz_> hi, can i ask how can i kill ipp 631 tcp port?
[06:53] <zlaja> ctrl-alt-backspace only logs me out
[06:53] <m4v1s> thanks for the help guys...
[06:53] <zlaja> how do i shut down x server?
[06:54] <zlaja> sorry but this is my first time using linux =)
[06:54] <EdLin> zlaja, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:54] <zlaja> thank you =)
[06:54] <EdLin> zlaja, why do you want to do it?
[06:54] <zlaja> have to install nvidia driver
[06:55] <EdLin> zlaja, Ubuntu comes with nvidia drivers
[06:55] <zlaja> not gfx drivers
[06:55] <zlaja> or atleast they aint up to date
[06:55] <EdLin> zlaja, it does, in the repositories
[06:55] <EdLin> zlaja, sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx
[06:55] <zlaja> allright =)
[06:56] <EdLin> zlaja,  sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[06:56] <EdLin> zlaja, then restart X and poof, you've got hardware accel
[06:56] <zlaja> whoa =)
[06:57] <zlaja> i restart X by simply logging out and in?
[06:57] <EdLin> zlaja, no, control-alt-backspace
[06:57] <zlaja> oh
[06:57] <zlaja> thanks =)
[06:58] <toronto> hola
[06:58] <holycow> any suggestions on how to remove all the packages associated with kde desktop environment metapackage?
[06:58] <xptk> hola
[06:58] <tidi> thanks folks for having this chat site because we sure need it us newbees
[06:58] <toronto> que tal'
[06:58] <tonyyarusso> I got a bunch of files with spaces in the filenames; is there any easy way to "fix" all of the names to be spaceless?  (Either by replacing with an underscore or just closing them up.)
[06:59] <xptk> toronto, conoces bien ubuntu?
[06:59] <EdLin> holycow, if you installed them with aptitude, removing the kubuntu metapackage will do it. Otherwise you're on your own...
[06:59] <toronto> si
[06:59] <toronto> por
[06:59] <tidi> hola
[06:59] <EdLin> holycow, maybe removing Qt and kdelib will get most of them.
[06:59] <holycow> EdLin, aptitutde cannot remove metapackage and its dependencies if installed via apt alone?
[06:59] <holycow> EdLin, oh thats a great idea
[06:59] <xptk> es que me acabo de comprar un porttil y estaba pensando en la posibilidad de instalselo
[06:59] <xptk> crees que es una buena idea?
[07:00] <nickrud> holycow, I used to do the remove libqt3-mt route, it works ok
[07:00] <xptk> o mejor linux?
[07:00] <EdLin> holycow, aptitude keeps track of things well only if you use it instead of apt a lot.
[07:00] <ryan__> What is on the 5 cds that can be sent through the mail?
[07:00] <holycow> EdLin, ah okay, good to know. thx
[07:00] <tidi> install version and preview
[07:00] <holycow> nickrud, i was just going to ask that, thanks :)  i only want to get rid of most of kde, i'm not fussy about every tiny little app
[07:01] <eSPete> how do i make the font bigger in xterm?
[07:01] <EdLin> holycow, yep, Qt oughta nuke most of them
[07:01] <smo> tonyyarusso: rename 's/ /_/g' *  (replace * with something more sane if you don't want to match *everything*)
[07:01] <nickrud> holycow, about the only thing left after libqt is the sound stuff, if I remember right
[07:01] <tidi> also yu can get a mac version  of ubuntu
[07:01] <holycow> nickrud, allright, great
[07:01] <EdLin> eSPete, in gnome's terminal program it's in the menus.
[07:02] <eSPete> i dont use the gnome term, i use xterm
[07:02] <tonyyarusso> smo: That sounds good, but out of curiosity, what does that mean?  (The s and g in particular.)
[07:02] <EdLin> eSPete, you may need to fool with resource files.
[07:02] <eSPete> EdLin, does xterm not have any conf files?
[07:03] <EdLin> eSPete, it uses merged resource files
[07:03] <eSPete> EdLin, which is?
[07:03] <EdLin> eSPete, create a resource file and make it merged with xrdb
[07:03] <tidi> later guys aand gals great site
[07:03] <EdLin> eSPete, the settings for the resource file are in xterm's manpage
[07:04] <tonyyarusso> smo: Oh, it's some sort of perl thing, isn't it?
[07:04] <smo> tonyyarusso: yup.  I believe the g makes it replace every match rather than just the first.  I'm not sure what the s is .. it's simply been there in every replace pattern I've used
[07:04] <EdLin> eSPete, a good starting sample .Xdefaults file is somewhere on stevens-tech.edu, others are out there too. Google
[07:05] <tonyyarusso> smo: I see.  Thanks.
[07:07] <Talisker> wait, the root argument passed to the kernel... should it point to the system root partition or to the grub root partition?
[07:07] <ClayG> eSPete: there is also a confg/text file for the gnome terminal
[07:07] <tucoz> Too bad there is no firefox 1.5 for breezy as of yet. Anyway, running it from a local dir works fine, and man what a different browsing experience it is.
[07:08] <Taa5i_> Could someone offer some insight into installing Ubuntu onto a software RAID-1 configured during install please?
[07:08] <ClayG> I was wondering how to make it stay a certain size when i launched the terminal, and couldnt find the answer anywhere, i finally found it. I had to find and edit a termcap file
[07:08] <tucoz> But I read in the forums that it is a cumbersome task to backport it, so I am happy as it is.
[07:08] <Taa5i_> I have as far as creating two identical sets of partitions on the two devices and setting them as RAID autodetect.
[07:09] <Talisker> My ubuntu kernel is on /dev/hda1, but grub is installed on /dev/hda3, so which one should be passed at root=/dev/hd[x]  ?
[07:09] <doru> hi all
[07:09] <smo> Talisker: the root= partition is mounted as /
[07:09] <Taa5i_> Talisker: /dev/hda
[07:09] <tonyyarusso> smo: Are you sure I don't need a backslash to escape the space character?
[07:09] <jgw__> heya doru
[07:09] <Talisker> Taa5i_, /dev/hda or /dev/hda1 ?
[07:09] <doru> somebody has Pinnacle TV Card saa7134?
[07:10] <doru> i cant configure it
[07:10] <smo> tonyyarusso: it works for me as is, I think because the whole pattern 's/ /_/g' is quoted.  but it probably won't hurt
[07:10] <doru> i just received the cd s and installed ubuntu
[07:10] <EdLin> doru, I have a working tv tuner card, what's the problem?
[07:11] <smo> tonyyarusso: perl's regexes are one of those black arts I try not to understand, just remember a few recipies that work, and google for examples when I need more
[07:11] <doru> i need the saa 7134 module when i give modprobe saa 7134 it can t find it
[07:11] <jgw__> doru: if you do a google search for 'ubuntu breezy "pinnacle tv"' some seemingly useful forum posts come up
[07:11] <tidi> how do i change my display res back to 1028 it reset it selt to 800 by
[07:11] <jrw146> Trappist: Well, I tried the ctrl+alt+f3. it got me to the command line spot, but nothing was accomplished. Sure, I could log in, but I still cant get a working system.
[07:11] <doru> ok
[07:12] <doru> i m coming from mandriva to ubuntu so i tried here
[07:12] <EdLin> doru, I have a Hauppauge WinTV, despite the name it works. ;-)
[07:12] <djk_> what could be the cause of a sudden increase in load average.. and i'm talking about 0.10 to over 15.00
[07:12] <tonyyarusso> smo: Okay.
[07:12] <doru> za zours is with bt 878 chipset
[07:12] <jgw__> djk: an app freaking out
[07:12] <jgw__> djk: investigate with ps or top
[07:12] <zOrK> can i upgrade from haory to breeze?
[07:13] <osfameron> tonyyarusso: you don't need to escape the space, though you could write it \s (which also matches tabs).  Actually, you could just do tr/ /_/ which is faster (it just transliterates single characters)
[07:13] <jgw__> z0rk: yes, put the breezy cd in your hoary machine and it'll upgrade
[07:13] <EdLin> doru, on older kernels I have to specify tuner=39, but Breezy has a kernel new enough that this is unnecessary
[07:13] <osfameron> anyone got one of those 3G data cards to work with ubuntu?
[07:13] <djk_> jgw__: of course, but during this i was unable to do anything.
[07:13] <tucoz> doru, maybe this will help a bit: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_saa7134
[07:13] <osfameron> I'm really tempted, but it's certainly advertised as being win only (not even sure mac)
[07:14] <doru> tnx edlin
[07:14] <doru> tnx i ll trz and come with news ab what i can do
[07:14] <doru> or not
[07:14] <EdLin> doru, that advice is not helpful for your problem, chances are it uses a different chipset
[07:14] <djk_> jgw__: thus unable to check. and other than a browser/amarok/gaim nothing was running.
[07:14] <doru> ya my chipset is Philips saa 7134
[07:14] <zOrK> jgw__: thanks!, and can i do a apt-get upgrade from haory to breezy?
[07:15] <tonyyarusso> osfameron: Thanks for the tip.
[07:15] <EdLin> z0rz, use dist-upgrade, not plain upgrade
[07:15] <tonyyarusso> smo & osfameron: Can I make this apply to anything in any number of subfolders to?
[07:16] <ClayG> in gnome what does a red box with an X in it mean attached to an icon?
[07:16] <zOrK> thanks
[07:16] <EdLin> np
[07:16] <ClayG> I just browsed a NFS shared directory that had locks on the icons, I dropped into cli and chmod 777 *
[07:16] <tidi> any help in terminal for change of  resolution mine is locked on 800x
[07:17] <ClayG> and now when browsing them a red box with white x is also attached, and so is the lock!
[07:17] <ClayG> tidi what do you mean in res?
[07:17] <EdLin> tidi, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:17] <ClayG> you mean when you launch terminal the size it is?
[07:17] <tidi> my resultion i can't change from  desk top
[07:17] <tidi> yes
[07:18] <karlan> is there any swedish people here?
[07:18] <osfameron> tonyyarusso: sure.  Are you doing it in perl or bash?
[07:18] <ClayG> I dont think we are speaking about the same things. I think you are talking about screen size/resolution
[07:18] <tucoz> karlan, sure
[07:18] <tidi> yes yu right sorry
[07:18] <tonyyarusso> Bash, but apparently this references perl, so I'm not really sure.
[07:18] <ClayG> system>admin>screen size
[07:19] <pinguino> hi all
[07:19] <tidi> clay is this the command for it in terminal?
[07:20] <pinguino> i have a problem post installation
[07:20] <pinguino> the installation went good, but after rebooting i see only a frozen psichedelyc screen and the mouse arrow... tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but nothing... any hint?
[07:20] <jrw146> Any clues as to why I can't actually get into the desktop? Just finished installing, it finished doing the initial unpackaging, but instead of bringing me to the desktop, I end up at a blank screen. No nothing.
[07:21] <tucoz> tidi, I believe that is the menus you should enter to change the resolution
[07:21] <tucoz> in gnome
[07:21] <pinguino> maybe we have a similar problem, jrw146
[07:21] <tidi> i tried that but it won't leet me change it
[07:21] <jrw146> pinguino: I agree, its something similar. But I'm not even getting a cursor
[07:21] <tidi> i try ok
[07:22] <jgw__> bah i was going to write a cool little applet for gnome, and someone already stole my idea and wrote it ;) (Zenity)
[07:22] <tucoz> jrw146, pine: what graphics card do you have?
[07:22] <pinguino> i saw something on the wiki about black screen, but don't remember exactly where, jcw
[07:22] <tucoz> *pinguino, I meant
[07:22] <osfameron> tonyyarusso: you could do something like:  for file in `find | xarg`; do your_rename_command $file; done
[07:22] <jrw146> tucoz: Geforce4 MX PCI 32mb. ooold card, but in perfect working order
[07:22] <Earthpig> Anyone here know awk?
[07:22] <tucoz> I had something similar when I installed. I have a ati x700 mobile.
[07:22] <jgw__> earth: a lot of us do, i'm sure
[07:23] <Earthpig> ok. substr($0,0,3) -- should return 3 chars, right?
[07:23] <Earthpig> Under OpenBSD's awk and gawk, it does.
[07:23] <tucoz> That needed some tweaking to get running.
[07:23] <tucoz> That is the xorg.conf file
[07:23] <Earthpig> But under mawk (the Debian/Ubuntu default) it returns only 2.
[07:24] <pinguino> tucoz, i have an ATI 9250
[07:24] <jrw146> tucoz: I dont even know how to access such a file, and even if I Could, I have no clue what to do to it.
[07:24] <patrik_> 7quit
[07:24] <Earthpig> to test: echo 1234 | awk '{print substr($0,0,3)}'
[07:24] <tonyyarusso> osfameron: I'm going to pretend that was English, and try desperately to decipher this.
[07:24] <michi> algun espaol?
[07:25] <crimsun> michi: ubuntu-es
[07:25] <smo> osfameron: I tried that, but rename applies it to the directory name too, which breaks find (once "foo foo/match one" becomes "foo_foo/match_one", find's next match "foo foo/match two" doesn't exist anymore)
[07:25] <Earthpig> Hrm. Guess not many do know awk. :)
[07:25] <jgw__> earth: looks like its a known issue with mawk
[07:25] <jgw__> it SHOULD do 3, but doesnt
[07:25] <tucoz> pinguino, jrw146: I had to set the driver to 'vesa' in /etc/X11/xorg.conf to get it running. Then I installed the official ati-drivers from ati.com
[07:25] <Earthpig> ah ok. didn't think i was crazy.
[07:26] <Earthpig> jgw: got a reference for that?
[07:26] <osfameron> smo: aha!  well, I did say "something like" :-)
[07:26] <jgw__> i found it in google
[07:26] <jrw146> tucoz: How do you actually go about doing that though?
[07:26] <jgw__> on a gnu.org list
[07:26] <jgw__> earth: still playing
[07:26] <Earthpig> worth entering up in ubuntu bugzilla?
[07:26] <osfameron> I have trouble getting find and xargs stuff to work properly myself...
[07:27] <tucoz> jrw146, make a copy of xorg.conf; cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/xorg.conf_back
[07:27] <osfameron> smo, tonyyarusso: how about: for file in `find | xargs`; do mv $file ${file// /_}; done
[07:27] <tucoz> jrw146, sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:27] <jgw__> earth: i cant speak for the ubuntu folks, but i would
[07:27] <Earthpig> osfameron: bad idea
[07:27] <jgw__> earth: enough stuff uses awk that i'm concerned
[07:28] <osfameron> Earthpig: I thought it might be :-)  why specifically?
[07:28] <tucoz> jrw146, find the Section "Device", and change the driver to vesa.
[07:28] <Earthpig> osfameron: whitespace in filenames.
[07:28] <jgw__> earth: it doesnt work as the mawk manpage states, so it == bug
[07:28] <tonyyarusso> Earthpig: Do you know a fix for that?
[07:29] <Rex> I'm trying to get PHP working on my ubuntu box. I put a file test.php in /var/www, but when I go to it with a web browser it prompts me to open it with another application. When I open it in a text editor, I see that the PHP was parsed correctly (no more <? tags)
[07:29] <Earthpig> tony: I normally use -print0 | xargs -0
[07:29] <Rex> Why?
[07:29] <jrw146> tucoz: But do this how? Boot into recovery mode?
[07:29] <Earthpig> and i have a shell script called mvalt.
[07:29] <Earthpig> (takes the dest as the first argument)
[07:29] <jgw__> earthpig: looks like a bug that's been around for at least a year
[07:29] <karlan> Rex, have you associated .php-ending in apache? (if using apache)
[07:29] <Earthpig> then i can go: find blah -print0 | xargs -0 mvalt
[07:29] <osfameron> Earthpig: heh, yes of course, it doesn't work
[07:30] <tucoz> jrw146, you can enter a virtual terminal by pressing ctrl+alt+f1
[07:30] <Rex> I'm using apache, I haven't really done anything with it.
[07:30] <jgw__> earth: use gawk?
[07:30] <Earthpig> jgw: yeah I'm flipping to that now.
[07:30] <tucoz> and return to x by pressing ctrl+alt+f6 or f7 i think
[07:30] <karlan> Rex, the thing is, you have to associate the .php-ending in your config. hold on
[07:30] <Rex> karlan: how can I do that?
[07:30] <karlan> Rex, will find tutorial, hold on
[07:30] <Rex> okay
[07:30] <Earthpig> ubuntu-minimal depends on mawk. sigh.
[07:31] <tucoz> jrw146, you could also try and set up xorg again, by running: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:31] <testmachine> hm
[07:31] <testmachine> breezy installed
[07:31] <testmachine> hehe
[07:31] <testmachine> did an upgradeto dapper
[07:31] <testmachine> but that didnt went allright
[07:31] <testmachine> *grin*
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> now time to do a clean install of dapper?
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:32] <testmachine> nah
[07:32] <testmachine> had this breezy cd
[07:32] <testmachine> so installed breezy
[07:32] <karlan> Rex, look at this guide: http://www.hostlibrary.com/installing_apache_mysql_php_on_linux
[07:32] <gsnedders> i installed php4 via apt, but it doesn't appear to have the CLI for PHP. How can I add the CLI?
[07:32] <Rex> karlan: cool, thanks.
[07:33] <karlan> you can skip the first steps if you already installed it. hold on, will look for the right line
[07:34] <tucoz> jrw146, good luck. Gotta run.
[07:34] <jgw__> gsnedders: apt-cache search php4-cli
[07:34] <jrw146> tucoz: Thanks, but its not working so far....
[07:34] <karlan> Rex, Private message soon
[07:34] <jgw__> gsnedders: err apt-cache show php4-cli
[07:34] <CarinArr> hey i have a quick question.. i'm using a dell inspiron laptop with a touchpad AND a rubber pointer thing in the middle of the keyboard (if you know what i mean).. does anyone know how to leave the rubber pointer thing enabled while disabling the touchpad?
[07:34] <gsnedders> jgw__:thanks
[07:34] <Earthpig> jgw: If I submit the bug, will you add a few of the URLs you found?
[07:35] <jgw__> earth: no ;) but its an easy issue to duplicate, and you could paste that gnu.org url i msg'ed you
[07:35] <crimsun> Earthpig: actually that's not a bug
[07:36] <jgw__> earth: its easy to duplicate: read manpage for awk & substr(), echo "1234567" | blah blah
[07:36] <crimsun> Earthpig: 1003.2 does not specify that index must be '0'
[07:36] <crimsun> echo 1234 | awk '{print substr($0,1,3)}'
[07:36] <crimsun> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnu-utils/2004-09/msg00083.html
[07:36] <jgw__> crimsun: its the string length that doesnt work, not the indexing
[07:36] <Belutz> I just know that ubuntu is #26 in PC World's The 100 Best Products of 2005
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> Belutz,  :P
[07:37] <karlan> doesnt firefox 1.5 work in ubuntu?
[07:37] <Belutz> :)
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> Belutz,  they got some really lame things in that top 100 however.  their WORST 10 is more fun.
[07:37] <Belutz> thanks to all ubuntu developers
[07:37] <jgw__> crimsun: huh, well thats whacky
[07:37] <Dasnipa`> where is the worst 10?
[07:38] <Belutz> Dr_Willis, well at least people who read pc world now knows ubuntu ;)
[07:38] <Dasnipa`> is #1 M$?
[07:38] <Dasnipa`> #1 on worst 10 that is
[07:38] <Belutz> #1 is firefox
[07:38] <Belutz> oh
[07:39] <Dasnipa`> #2 is gmail i know that
[07:39] <Dasnipa`> on the best list
[07:39] <Earthpig> crimsun: So it's really a bug that n is undefined?
[07:39] <Earthpig> sorry, i?
[07:39] <Milleniumgroup> http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/article/0,aid,120763,pg,12,00.asp
[07:39] <Milleniumgroup> :)
[07:39] <peladillas> ss
[07:40] <jgw__> earth: i'd still consider it a bug or at least an "undesirable condition"
[07:40] <Milleniumgroup> how the hell can # Zone Labs ZoneAlarm Antivirus Antivirus and Firewall Software
[07:40] <lucaslira> How can I generate .iso of my HD for never lost my configurations?????
[07:40] <Milleniumgroup> be 11th place?
[07:40] <jgw__> mill: they paid for it
[07:40] <crimsun> Earthpig: it's a possible candidate for a wishlist bug in mawk, yes, but I wouldn't say that it's RC-level
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> lucaslira,  chech out "Mondo/Mindi" it can backup to cdroms and so forth.
[07:41] <jgw__> kickbacks due wonders to top 10 lists
[07:41] <lucaslira> thanks
[07:42] <tonyyarusso> What's the command line file search tool?
[07:42] <osfameron> Earthpig: find -print0 | xargs -0 isn't doing the right thing at all...
[07:42] <osfameron> at least for file in `...` is still splitting on internal whitespace
[07:43] <hostix> hey
[07:43] <Earthpig> osfameron: yes. it will always do that.
[07:43] <Necrocide> Hi.
[07:43] <taylor_> How do I change my setting for evolution in breezy? I entered some wrong info.
[07:43] <Earthpig> It's dangerous to use find between backtics.
[07:44] <Earthen> how do I force firefox to use the mplayer plugin rather than the totem player
[07:44] <hostix> where can i get more apt media's
[07:44] <jgw__> taylor: load evolution, go to the edit menu, select preferences
[07:44] <DanielHolth> Hello.
[07:44] <osfameron> Earthpig: that makes it rather less useful than it could be.  Granted, I'd normally do this kind of stuff in Perl
[07:45] <Necrocide> I got a question. I'm new to linux so don't kill me for my stupid questions. I just installed Ubuntu, and rebooted to login. I'm like in this console window, what's the command to start the GUI of Ubuntu? Also, under the installation I did not get promted to create a root password? So I can not login as root.
[07:45] <NoUse> taylor_ from the preferences menu inside evolution
[07:45] <taylor_> jgw__, thanks
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> Necrocide,  why do you allready want to login as root. :P  sounds like yoru X did not get configured right.
[07:46] <osfameron> Necrocide: I think if it didn't boot to GUI the installation failed
[07:46] <osfameron> you're probably best off reinstalling
[07:46] <jgw__> taylor: np, if youre having problems finding a specific setting, lemme know
[07:46] <Earthpig> osfameron: this will work: find -print0 | xargs -0 -i mv {} dstdir/
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> what video card ya got Necrocide ?
[07:46] <Milleniumgroup> you're using an irc client in terminal :O ?
[07:46] <Earthpig> But it won't be quick. Much faster to use the mvalt thing I mentioned earlier.
[07:46] <djk_> Necrocide: read the link ubotu sent you to find out about root/sudo
[07:46] <Necrocide> I had to boot my windows
[07:46] <Milleniumgroup> ah
[07:47] <jrw146> tried to reconfig the whole x thing, failed miserably. It told me that, too. Now X wont load, and I'm at a command line login.... Reconfiguring to VESA simply made my problems worse... Any help?
[07:47] <Necrocide> Anyway. I got "Intel Extreme Graphic" - I never had any problems with this grahpic card in other Linux distros.
[07:48] <osfameron> Earthpig: yeah, or perl :-)  where is your script?
[07:48] <rambo3> same kernel for all?
[07:49] <Necrocide> When I turn on the system, I get in GRUB - And I boot the first one. The one that seems the most right. It loads and it promt me for a login, I login and then. Nothing. Only the bash console. Hehe.
[07:49] <osfameron> Necrocide: seriously, I would try reinstalling, and only debugging if that doesn't get you anywhere
[07:49] <osfameron> I had a similar problem when I was trying on a PC with dodgy fan settings
[07:49] <tonyyarusso> Anyone know why gnomebaker would only work as root?
[07:49] <osfameron> it kept rebooting half way through installation
[07:50] <Necrocide> Hmm..
[07:50] <Earthpig> osfameron: it's easy to write: mvalt() { local $_dest=$1; shift; exec mv "$@" "$_dest"; }
[07:50] <osfameron> (cos the CD and HD whirring so hard got it heated up)
[07:50] <Necrocide> There is not a command to start the GUI?
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> 'startx'
[07:50] <rambo3> startx
[07:50] <Necrocide> I thought so
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> but if X is not configured right - it wont work
[07:50] <Necrocide> I google a bit
[07:50] <Necrocide> about X
[07:50] <osfameron> hence my "give up foolish mortal" pronouncements
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> or he could just try dpkg-reconfigure xorg-?? * (i forget)
[07:51] <jrw146> I'm at the same screen as Necrocide, but this was after doing dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. so.. startx wont do me any good either.... Bah. I've reinstalled using 5.04 and 5.10 way too many times now...
[07:52] <Necrocide> Crap.
[07:52] <Necrocide> Hmm..
[07:52] <smo> tonyyarusso: if you're still on the replace thing, I just found -execdir :)  find . -type f -execdir rename 's/ /_/g' "{}" ";"   should run without problems (doesn't rename the directories, but doesn't choke on them either)
[07:52] <rambo3> xserver
[07:52] <sorush20> how do I install QT?
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> actually an intel video needs a kernel module loaded - dosen it?
[07:52] <karlan> why do i have to insert the ubuntu dvd whenever i try to install a program?
[07:52] <rambo3> !apt
[07:52] <ubotu> apt is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[07:53] <sorush20> !qt
[07:53] <ubotu> Qt is the Q-toolkit. Qt is to KDE what GTK is to GNOME. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package
[07:53] <Bobster> karlan: it looks on the cd first, you can comment it out of the sources.list file
[07:53] <djk_> karlan: because you probably still have the deb line for the dvd in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:53] <jdkycdoc> hi everyone, could you tell me how can i change from kernel compiled from 386 to 686? do i just need to download and install the image using synaptic?
[07:53] <rambo3> or change sources in synaptics
[07:53] <karlan> thx :)
[07:53] <Necrocide> How do I configure my X?
[07:53] <djk_> !xorg
[07:53] <ubotu> xorg is, like, totally, to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[07:53] <Necrocide> Thanks.
[07:53] <NetGrunt> bye
[07:53] <djk_> sure
[07:53] <rambo3> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:54] <Necrocide> yessir. I try :)
[07:54] <nilux_05> hi everyone.I just installed ubuntu but i can not login as root.during installing no password was given for rootuser
[07:54] <Necrocide> SUDU!
[07:54] <jgw__> nilux: use sudo, dont use root
[07:54] <Necrocide> Even I know that now :)
[07:55] <karlan> does anyone know how i can chose correct mouse in xorg? :) a person told me that i had to configure my set of mouse in xorg, but i really cant find it anywhere.
[07:55] <nilux_05> sudo?
[07:55] <djk_> nilux_05: read the link ubotu just sent you..
[07:55] <Necrocide> Okay, thanks for the help I let you know if I succede.
[07:55] <nilux_05> how?
[07:55] <djk_> nilux_05: by clicking on it..
[07:56] <nilux_05> thanks djk_
[07:56] <rambo3> yes
[07:56] <djk_> sure
[07:57] <jrw146> trying to reconfiugure X, but after doing so, I went from frozen blank screen (Before reconfig) to getting an X failed to load login screen..... Any suggestions?
[07:58] <rambo3> do you get terminal
[07:58] <jrw146> I do now.
[07:58] <rambo3> thats enough , gui is overrated
[07:59] <aep> hihi
[07:59] <jrw146> yeah.. "thanks".
[07:59] <aep> apt doesnt work on fresh install
[07:59] <Astxist> gui == shiney
[07:59] <MickMcMack> Question; will Ubuntu find a USB wireless adapter on bootup?
[07:59] <Astxist> aep, sources.list needs editing
[08:00] <Astxist> aep, uncomment some of it :)
[08:00] <aep> on apt-get update it says:  Unknown Error on executing gpgv
[08:00] <aep> Astxist,  did it already
[08:00] <eleanor> hey, anyone got any idea how I mount my digital camera (USB)?
[08:00] <aep> seems gpg or something is corrupt :(
[08:00] <Astxist> aep, ah ok no idea on that problem sorry
[08:00] <Exxcaliber> Plug it in, and it should show up on your desktop
[08:00] <Exxcaliber> eleanor, ^
[08:01] <Astxist> eleanor, should mount automatically
[08:01] <eleanor> it's not doing :-/
[08:01] <eleanor> sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't
[08:01] <Astxist> that's odd
[08:02] <XxFREDdiexX> i need help installing stuff plz help me
[08:02] <eleanor> dmesg|tail shows that it knows I've plugged it in
[08:02] <Necrocide> I hoped I should return here so shortly. Seems like the 'xserver-xorg' is not installed at all? How can this me?
[08:02] <Necrocide> should not*
[08:02] <Astxist> XxFREDdiexX, more details please
[08:03] <XxFREDdiexX> im trying to install amicans amay
[08:03] <XxFREDdiexX> im trying to install amicans amay
[08:03] <Amaranth> america's army?
[08:03] <XxFREDdiexX> ya
[08:03] <Astxist> XxFREDdiexX, sorry never done that can't help
[08:03] <XxFREDdiexX> k
[08:03] <rambo3> just download and install
[08:04] <chris_> hey i have a problem my screen res is stuck at 640 x 800
[08:04] <XxFREDdiexX> qut about ut2004
[08:04] <chris_> how do i fix it?
[08:04] <linukso> Hmmm, is xorg in ubuntu very slow, or is it just my computer that is getting very old?
[08:04] <Amaranth> !fixres
[08:04] <XxFREDdiexX> wut*
[08:04] <ubotu> I heard fixres is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:04] <chris_> ty
[08:04] <chris_> bbs
[08:05] <XxFREDdiexX> can sombody help me installstufff
[08:05] <Exxcaliber> XxFREDdiexX, sure
[08:05] <Necrocide> I hoped I shouldnt return here so shortly. Seems like the 'xserver-xorg' is not installed at all? How can this be? And how to solve?
[08:05] <Exxcaliber> XxFREDdiexX, Whats the problem?
[08:06] <XxFREDdiexX> i dont no how to insall any thing
[08:06] <pablo> hello
[08:06] <XxFREDdiexX> im a n00b to linux
[08:06] <pablo> what do you want to install?
[08:06] <XxFREDdiexX> amicans amary
[08:07] <pablo> dunno what that is, but the tool for installing soft in ubuntu is called synaptic
[08:07] <pablo> or, in the command line, apt-get
[08:07] <pablo> have you got all the repositories?
[08:08] <XxFREDdiexX> i tryed that
[08:08] <rambo3> did you donwload the game?
[08:08] <pablo> sudo gedit /etc/sources.list
[08:08] <pablo> no, sorry
[08:08] <Necrocide> Anyone can solve my problem? :P
[08:09] <rambo3> if so type : sh armyops250linux.run  or ./army->tab
[08:09] <pablo> fred: do you have the .deb that you want to install?
[08:09] <Myrtti> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg?
[08:09] <XxFREDdiexX> file:///home/freddie/Desktop/armyops250linux.run
[08:09] <XxFREDdiexX> that is wut it is
[08:10] <Exxcaliber> Necrocide, why doesnt it seem that the xserver is installed?
[08:10] <rambo3> yes
[08:10] <eleanor> anyone know what to do with a digital camera that isn't automatically mounting via USB?
[08:10] <Necrocide> Because when I do 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' it says it's not installed?
[08:10] <Exxcaliber> XxFREDdiexX, just go to a terminal and type" sh armyops250linux.run"
[08:10] <pablo> .run   ? mhh
[08:10] <Exxcaliber> Damn..
[08:10] <XxFREDdiexX> weres the termnal
[08:10] <Exxcaliber> XxFREDdiexX,  utilities
[08:10] <XxFREDdiexX> k
[08:11] <Pantsos> hello guys, i was wondered if there is a way to migrate from Ubuntu x86 to AMD64 without install from the scratch Ubuntu AMD64
[08:11] <Pantsos> any ideas?
[08:11] <Exxcaliber> Necrocide, So you managed to install ubuntu without the graphical interface?
[08:11] <Necrocide> yeah
[08:11] <Necrocide> Somehow
[08:11] <Necrocide> lol
[08:11] <Pantsos> heh
[08:11] <chorse> Pantsos, run ubuntu i386 on x64
[08:11] <Exxcaliber> Pantsos, Yeah, what about just recompiling the kernel?
[08:11] <Exxcaliber> Necrocide, coool.. hehe..
[08:11] <Astxist> Necrocide, what did you do to it!?
[08:11] <Astxist> :)
[08:11] <[matrim] > Heh gang, how do I unmount a disk?
[08:12] <Necrocide> No clue. :|
[08:12] <XxFREDdiexX> weres utilluts
[08:12] <Pantsos> yeah, but what about the other packages?
[08:12] <rambo3> !umount
[08:12] <ubotu> rambo3: Are you on ritalin?
[08:12] <Exxcaliber> Necrocide,  So what if you do "sudo apt-get install -s xserver-xorg"
[08:12] <[matrim] > !unmount
[08:12] <ubotu> [matrim] : Are you smoking crack?
[08:12] <Exxcaliber> XxFREDdiexX, Programs
[08:12] <XxFREDdiexX> k
[08:12] <chorse> [matrim] , sudo umount /your/disk
[08:12] <Necrocide> Havent tried. I'm still linux newbie. I write it down, and boot it up..
[08:13] <XxFREDdiexX> were prgrams
[08:13] <Exxcaliber> KK. Necrocide, are you certain that it's connected to the internet? hehe
[08:13] <XxFREDdiexX> programs*
[08:13] <Necrocide> I can ping google, so I hope :)
[08:13] <Exxcaliber> XxFREDdiexX, At the top left corner
[08:13] <Exxcaliber> Necrocide, Kk..
[08:13] <pablo> fred: are you on gnome or kde?
[08:13] <Necrocide> Time to try.. :P
[08:14] <Exxcaliber> Necrocide, then you can also use irssi, it's an irc client for the terminal ;)
[08:14] <tonyyarusso> Can I export a list of all of the packages I have installed to a text file?
[08:14] <XxFREDdiexX> i dont see it
[08:14] <[matrim] > thanks, I was trying to mount a fat32 disk from my raid card to a folder, but I couldn't see the specific dick in "device manager" so I made a quess and mounted wrong one :/
[08:15] <rambo3> xxFreddiexx : move the file top /home/freddie/  , open terminal and type sh army~  or ./army~  |~ = tab key
[08:15] <Exxcaliber> XxFREDdiexX, okay, well i don't use an american system so im not sure what it's called, but its the first button from the left..
[08:15] <thomerz> tonyyarusso, dpkg -l > pakages.txt
[08:15] <Paradosso>  someone is willing to share his .procmailrc and /etc/postfix/main.cf to check gmail w/mutt, please?
[08:15] <Exxcaliber> rambo3, don't confuse the poor guy.. hehe
[08:15] <tonyyarusso> thomerz: Wonderful.
[08:16] <pablo> I have a problem: when I migrated from outlook to evolution many of my e-mail messages were copied more than once, so I've got them repeated in my inbox. do you have any idea how to remove the repeated ones without having to select each one of them manually?
[08:16] <[matrim] > BTW : if I can find a dick by another OS locaded on the raid card, and I locate the raid card in ununtu, but ubuntu sais nothing is attached at IDE cable :/  what may be a solution
[08:17] <czr> anyone around who has used kickstart to install ubuntu?
[08:17] <quickdraw> hello question
[08:17] <czr> matrim, how do you know that ubuntu 'locates' your card?
[08:17] <jbroome> [matrim] : mr. freud called.  wants to know why you're looking for a dick by another OS. :)
[08:18] <czr> I've been to freuds home actually
[08:18] <czr> no raid cards there
[08:18] <bytefoo> wow what a typo lol :|
[08:18] <jgw__> jbroome: damnit you ruined it! i actually thought that everyone would look past it, for a sec
[08:18] <quickdraw> dev packages in ubuntu
[08:18] <XxFREDdiexX> wut do i type in th termnal
[08:18] <[matrim] > czr, it's located under"Device Manager" and I checked the data... it's correct. and it located IDE ports
[08:18] <quickdraw> how do I install them?
[08:19] <czr> matrim, did you check dmesg output?
[08:19] <rambo3> !dpkg
[08:19] <czr> matrim, could you paste that into pastebin, I could take a look
[08:19] <quickdraw> dpkg is not finding the dev packages
[08:19] <quickdraw> output from dpkg
[08:19] <Exxcaliber> quickdraw, first of all, you need to get better at asking questions :P Write your whole question in one line, please :)
[08:19] <Exxcaliber> and don't paste huge outputs!!
[08:19] <pablo> anyone?
[08:19] <quickdraw> ok
[08:20] <quickdraw> No huge output
[08:20] <[matrim] > czr, is patebin compatible with screenshots?
[08:20] <czr> matrim, dmesg outputs text. pastebin is good with text
[08:20] <Exxcaliber> pablo, try to search the maling list for evolution, other people might be experiencing the same problem, and this channel is very general.. you will have better luck at the evolution homepage
[08:20] <czr> dmesg > /tmp/file.txt, then paste that into pastebin
[08:20] <Exxcaliber> maling list = mailinglist*
[08:21] <pablo> yes, thanks.. I already did that.. this was sort of my last resort...
[08:21] <pablo> thanks anyway
[08:21] <tonyyarusso> [matrim] : Yes, I believe it takes jpg or gif plus png if you need to do that, but text is nicer.
[08:21] <quickdraw> dpkg output
[08:21] <quickdraw>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[08:21] <czr> there probably is a mailing list for evolution somewhere, you could try digging the archives there
[08:21] <quickdraw> for libx11-dev
[08:21] <Exxcaliber> pablo, oh.. well, don't give up, other people might know the answer, I just don't
[08:21] <Exxcaliber> quickdraw, do you do, sudo dpkg ?
[08:21] <quickdraw> yes
[08:22] <czr> hmm. ubuntu5.10 is running like a sloth under vmware
[08:22] <czr> running is the wrong word though :-)
[08:23] <quickdraw> list show libx11-dev
[08:23] <quickdraw> dpkg list
[08:23] <quickdraw> but I cant install it it says it cant find it
[08:23] <czr> quickdraw, apt-cache show libx11-dev
[08:23] <quickdraw> ok
[08:23] <czr> dpkg -l lists the packages that have been already installed on your comp
[08:23] <thomerz> how can i set an application as default for a filetype?
[08:24] <XxFREDdiexX> it say no write premmion when i try to install it
[08:24] <[matrim] > czr, http://pastebin.com/449902 thats what I could found, but checking it over again
[08:24] <quickdraw> czr, it shows filename md5sum
[08:25] <quickdraw> I cant find the X11 headers, shouldnt they be under /usr/X11R6
[08:25] <XxFREDdiexX> tell me wut to do
[08:25] <czr> matrim, it finds hda at least
[08:25] <Exxcaliber> XxFREDdiexX, write "sudo sh arm~"
[08:25] <czr> matrim, what is your problem exactly? you have how many disks in your compu?
[08:26] <czr> matrim, next time just paste the whole dmesg
[08:26] <sorush20> how do I get rid of this error?
[08:26] <korhalf> what runlevel should i put scripts that i want to be exectued on boot up in?
[08:27] <sorush20> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[08:27] <sorush20> I'm trying to configure k3b
[08:27] <korhalf> http://www.speedguide.net/read_articles.php?id=121 <- should i even bother with this ?
[08:27] <czr> sorush20, install libx11-dev or smt like that
[08:27] <[matrim] > czr, I can't get it mounted
[08:27] <quickdraw> I think I got it
[08:27] <Agrajag> sorush20: uh, why not just install k3b from apt?
[08:27] <czr> matrim, you didn't answer my other question
[08:27] <quickdraw> thanks guys
[08:28] <czr> matrim, you need to be more precise as 'what cannot be installed'
[08:28] <czr> mounted err
[08:28] <czr> :-)
[08:28] <XxFREDdiexX> wut sould i pu 4 the installshion path
[08:28] <sorush20> Agrajag: I can erase a DVDRW I don't know what to do ?
[08:28] <bungle_> hi all
[08:28] <[matrim] > I need to mount the IDE master on IDE 0 as a filder in my root,   Can't be more precise then that
[08:29] <czr> matrim, you have multiple partitions on ide0. which partition are you mounting?
[08:29] <czr> hda even
[08:29] <korhalf> Hello?
[08:29] <kaur> how can i make evolution mail delete messages on server after i have deleted them from the computer?
[08:30] <korhalf> http://www.speedguide.net/read_articles.php?id=121 <- should i do that to tweak my connection on my end for the better?
[08:30] <korhalf> or should i not bother
[08:30] <[matrim] > czr, Yea, but on raid it's a single one
[08:30] <czr> matrim, so what you're saying is that you have a software raid over two disks on that controller and you cannot mount the software raid volumes in linux?
[08:30] <lucaslira> where i find mondo manual
[08:30] <lucaslira> ????
[08:30] <lucaslira> ??
[08:31] <Exxcaliber> Kaur, is your email account on an IMAP protocol?
[08:31] <sorush20> Agrajag: how do I use a DVD-RW ?
[08:31] <czr> matrim, which OS created the raid volumes?
[08:32] <czr> matrim, or did you create it from BIOS?
[08:32] <Exxcaliber> lucaslira, Google.com?
[08:32] <Anon9289> hi...
[08:32] <lucaslira> I will try
[08:32] <[matrim] > czr, on the raid card, I have removed all but on (single fat32 partitioned) disk, I need to mount the partition on the disk to a specific folder ( /libdisk )
[08:32] <Exxcaliber> hi Anon9289
[08:32] <Exxcaliber> Greate idea lucaslira
[08:32] <lucaslira> but the homepage of mondo not founded
[08:33] <czr> matrim, by 'on the raid card' you mean BIOS?
[08:33] <Anon9289> can we still do an ubuntu-expert-install with breezy?
[08:33] <Anon9289> sorry... custom-expert
[08:33] <czr> also, by disk you mean 'disk' on raid?
[08:33] <XxFREDdiexX> wut should i put insallashion path
[08:33] <czr> or disk as in physical disk?
[08:33] <_willcooke_> Argh!  Can someone help?  I've set up a machine so I can vnc in to it, and then put it up in the loft.  But, I can vnc in until someone is logged in to gnome.  Is there a way I can get vnc to accept a connection with out be having to go in to the loft and get the box back out again?  I can ssh in.
[08:33] <lucaslira> So....thanks
[08:33] <[matrim] > BIOS locates the disk, so does other OS's. so I know the disk is oporational, the broblem is I can't fint the mount path for it
[08:33] <_willcooke_> sorry, that should read ...CANT vnc in...
[08:33] <seppo> hello everyone, has somebody has any experience with a nx8220 laptop and hibernate/suspend with ubuntu breezy?
[08:33] <czr> matrim, which other OSes?
[08:34] <czr> matrim, I'm trying to triangulate the problem area, so please be patient with me
[08:34] <smo> _willcooke_; gdm has an option to automatically log a user in.  you can probably change it in gdm.conf, then /etc/init.d/gdm restart, and it should bring it up
[08:34] <Exxcaliber> seppo, check www.tuxmobile.com
[08:34] <_willcooke_> smo, nice one!  I'll take a look.  Cheers
[08:34] <[matrim] > czr, I am, what irritates me is that my GF refises to allow me to hang up the phone
[08:34] <[matrim] > czr, last checked with was moms win XP
[08:34] <seppo> yeah i've done that, according to the laptoptesting team of ubuntu it should wokr
[08:35] <XxFREDdiexX> plz tell me
[08:35] <czr> matrim, did you ever get it working in any Linux?
[08:35] <czr> matrim, or just windows?
[08:35] <zelas_metallium> I'm trying to get my sound card working, and I can't find any help on the ubuntu documentation site.
[08:35] <Exxcaliber> XxFREDdiexX, it doesnt matter
[08:35] <seppo> what card?
[08:35] <[matrim] > not this disk, but another over same card last install (ubuntu)
[08:36] <czr> matrim, hmm. sis sounds like a fakeraid. fakeraid = software raid that is implemented in bios and windows drivers, not hardware raid
[08:36] <rambo3> zelas what card
[08:36] <shutdownrunner> Has any of you heard about concordance tool for linux using gtk?
[08:36] <czr> matrim, so you'd need to get devicemapper to support the layout that sis is using for the raid layout on the disks
[08:36] <zelas_metallium> seppo, I don't know.  how can I find out?  I think it's onboard.
[08:36] <czr> zelas_metallium, lspci
[08:36] <Exxcaliber> seppo, did you try to compile your kernel with the acerhk module? i read a lot of laptop articles last night and they all recommended that module for both hotkeys and wifi chips :P
[08:36] <_willcooke_> smo, Excellent, that worked.  Thanks a lot.
[08:36] <[matrim] > czr, it's a raid 0,1, 5 card
[08:36] <Exxcaliber> seppo, so maybe it could also help out with the ACPI stuff
[08:36] <czr> matrim, do you have a specific card name for me?
[08:37] <Exxcaliber> seppo, you did add ACPI support, right?
[08:37] <seppo> do you have a brand pc zelas?
[08:37] <XxFREDdiexX> Exxcaliber it sayes i need write premission
[08:37] <seppo> acpi support is loaded by default afaik
[08:37] <zelas_metallium> the only thing I can find is this: 0000:00:1b.0 Class 0403: Intel Corp. I/O Controller Hub Audio (rev 03)
[08:37] <rambo3> lscpi  in terminal
[08:37] <rambo3> lspci
[08:37] <Exxcaliber> XxFREDdiexX, Just use this path "~/Army"
[08:37] <seppo> look up your model at the website of the pc brand
[08:37] <Exxcaliber> XxFREDdiexX, Then it'll get placed in your home dir
[08:38] <[matrim] > czr, PCI0680 Ultra ATA-133 Host Controller  (Silicon Omage inc)
[08:38] <seppo> suspend, hibernate power downs, but once i want resume, my X serve rhangs (using fglrx)
[08:38] <Exxcaliber> seppo, oh.. yeah.. forgot i was on the ubuntu channel :P
[08:38] <zelas_metallium> rambo3, that's the output of lspci that relates to sound
[08:38] <Tuntis> Hmm, wanna hear something useless?
[08:38] <czr> matrim, it's not a real raid. it's fakeraid. just checked
[08:38] <seppo> hehehe
[08:38] <Tuntis> You guys have been a very big help to me.
[08:38] <czr> matrim, try silimage-driver
[08:39] <czr> matrim, http://linux-setup.news-view.co.uk/topic-5322.html
[08:39] <thundr> I noticed in the topic that Firefox 1.5 isn't in Breezy until it gets to Dapper.  I was curious as to why that is.
[08:39] <czr> not ubuntu-related problem at all matrim
[08:39] <seppo> Exxcaliber: , acpi is loaded by default right?
[08:39] <Exxcaliber> seppo, yeah, i guess, im not sure though
[08:39] <oxez> thundr: Yea, there is a thread about that in the backports section on ubuntuforums.org, you might want to check it out!
[08:39] <recon0> !kernel
[08:39] <thundr> thanks, oxez, I will.
[08:40] <[matrim] > czr, thx
[08:40] <zelas_metallium> based on that line, how can I tell what cartd I have?
[08:40] <seppo> Exxcaliber, battery is recognized, i can suspend//hibernate but after resume, my X server just hangs, then i need to reboot hard
[08:40] <czr> matrim, good luck. last time I really needed to get the BIOS-raid working in linux I ended up patching kernel and making boot floppies. not fun
[08:40] <testing> hello
[08:41] <testing> sorry im using java web chat
[08:41] <jrattner1> hello
[08:41] <[matrim] > czr, I could attach it to the mainboard Raid instead since I know that that should be tru raid
[08:41] <rambo3> zelas_metallium is it a laptop?
[08:41] <[matrim] > but I need to find either the key to the chassi, or a crowbar
[08:41] <testing> is there a way to do a custom-expert install for breezy?
[08:41] <zelas_metallium> rambo3, nope, desktop
[08:41] <czr> matrim, which motherboard do you have?
[08:41] <recon0> How can you find out what your kernel version is?
[08:41] <[matrim] > czr, ASUS A8V-Deluxe
[08:41] <czr> matrim, the 'raid' that is sold on cheap ide/sata motherboards is not true raid either
[08:42] <czr> matrim, manufacturers just like to call it raid. it has nothing to do with hardware raid (real raid)
[08:42] <_willcooke_> smo, Any ideas how to do an "alt-tab" over a vnc session?!
[08:42] <czr> matrim, it won't work since every fakeraid uses different block allocation. so you'll just lose all your data that is stored on drives now
[08:42] <Milleniumgroup> hello?
[08:42] <Milleniumgroup> hello?
[08:42] <Milleniumgroup> who is this?
[08:42] <Milleniumgroup> Michael
[08:42] <Milleniumgroup> dad?
[08:42] <Milleniumgroup> :P
[08:42] <Mr_Milenko> what?
[08:43] <Mr_Milenko> oh
[08:43] <Milleniumgroup> lost
[08:43] <Mr_Milenko> different michail
[08:43] <Milleniumgroup> :)
[08:43] <Milleniumgroup> lol ya
[08:43] <Mr_Milenko> el*
[08:43] <Mr_Milenko> bah
[08:43] <Mr_Milenko> cant even spell my friggin name
[08:43] <czr> is this channel always like this?
[08:43] <Mr_Milenko> nah
[08:43] <Milleniumgroup> like what?
[08:43] <Milleniumgroup> friendly? yes
[08:43] <czr> full of badly behaving noobs :-)
[08:43] <Mr_Milenko> after 3pm its always active
[08:43] <osfameron> friendly?
[08:43] <Milleniumgroup> yeah friendly
[08:43] <osfameron> the screen moves too fast to read
[08:44] <Mr_Milenko> everyone was a noob at one time czr
[08:44] <rambo3> zelas_metallium you cam allways check with  modprobe snd_intel8x0
[08:44] <rambo3>  and see if that works , else join #alsa channel for more info on sound
[08:44] <osfameron> it's hard to even remember who's who
[08:44] <czr> Mr_Milenko, you avoided the badly behaving-part
[08:44] <[matrim] > czr, I'll solve it somehow, thanks for your time.
[08:44] <zelas_metallium> rambo3, thanks
[08:44] <czr> matrim, good luck
[08:44] <Mr_Milenko> everyone has behaved badly at least once ;)
[08:44] <czr> matrim, google for silimage-driver, it should be able to read the blocks in correct order
[08:44] <Anon9038> sorry i keep getting disconnected.. so is there a custom-expert install in breezy?
[08:44] <Milleniumgroup> Efnet should learn from this channel :P
[08:45] <Milleniumgroup> and let's not mention the ub community.. friendly people :)
[08:45] <nilux_05> im trying to view a video file but totem has problems opening it.it say i need to download some plugins.where can i find them
[08:45] <seppo> Exxcaliber, according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/HPNX8220-PG802?highlight=%28nx8220%29 it should work, do you know Jani Monoses?
[08:45] <XxFREDdiexX> Exxcaliber were will it be located now
[08:46] <nilux_05> i installed realplayer10 but have no idea how it works
[08:46] <hubidubi> hi
[08:46] <Exxcaliber> seppo,  no who is she ?
[08:47] <Exxcaliber> XxFREDdiexX,  in your home dir
[08:47] <hubidubi> do you know any pcmcia wlan card which works with ubuntu vanilla kernel out of the box?
[08:48] <seppo> Exxcaliber , she/ he is a member of the ubuntu laptop testing team and did the test nx8220 :)
[08:48] <zelas_metallium> rambo3, it didn't give me any errors, but I still can't adjust the volume
[08:48] <rambo3> and alsamixer ?
[08:49] <quickdraw> question, which ubuntu package contains X11/IntrinsicP.h. For debian, it is libxt-dev
[08:49] <HighHopes> Hello! How can I install full bash completion in Ubuntu Breezy?
[08:50] <jrw146> using Xorg's config... I'm trying to manually enter the pci id.. lspci told me 000:01:0e.0 . I'm not sure what to put into Xorgs config to get it to work. Everything I've tried tells me its not a valid ID.
[08:50] <recon0> is there a command to find which version of the linux kernel i'm using?
[08:50] <Exxcaliber> seppo, hehe okay, i guess im owned :P
[08:50] <yoav> hey everyone, new linux user, trying to edit the /etc/apt/sources.list but i tells me i cant. apparently im not the owner...? im just following instructions trying to compile amule, and very clueless
[08:51] <seppo> Exxcaliber, 31337 :o)
[08:51] <zelas_metallium> rambo3, alsamixer says: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[08:52] <rambo3> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:52] <zelas_metallium> rambo3, mae?
[08:52] <MickMcMack> gedit? *bashes rambo3 about the head with evil X propoganda*
[08:52] <yoav> rambo3 - what does that do?
[08:52] <Maquinitas> hola
[08:53] <rambo3> zelas_metallium , i had same problem with onboard sound . either use older kernel or buy a cheap sound card . thats what i did
[08:54] <zelas_metallium> yoav, only root can edit that file, sudo changes you to root within the scope of the application you run under it
[08:54] <XxFREDdiexX> Exxcaliber how do i get it to my desktop
[08:54] <zelas_metallium> yoav, so, sudo <editor> <file> edits as root
[08:54] <Skies> has the dapper-version working GUI yet? :P
[08:54] <yoav> thx zelas
[08:55] <djm62> hello...does the topic imply that breezy will get firefox 1.5?
[08:55] <SockerFot> ok, i have a problem up in here
[08:55] <yoav> zelas, so once i write that line i go back to open the file directly, or do i keep working from the command line?
[08:55] <Skies> yesterday I upgraded from breezy to dapper, it could not start x-server
[08:56] <SockerFot> my sound stopped working earlier today, just suddenly when i started up Ubuntu. any idea what might have happened?
[08:56] <rambo3> MickMcMack yeah "vi" "nano" is much simpler. :wq
[08:56] <talisker> err... I can't boot into my system, I have some grub fiesco
[08:56] <Skies> lol 665 people, one op
[08:56] <talisker> I can boot in recovery mode
[08:56] <djm62> yoav: if you type "sudo gedit whateverthefilenameis", then an editor will appear on your screen
[08:56] <tonyyarusso> I've noticed that when doing apt-get upgrades, it says that two packages were held back, the kernel and kernel image.  If a new kernel is available, can I upgrade to it with apt, or do I need to do something else?
[08:56] <Exxcaliber> XxFREDdiexX, i dont know what the program file is called, so you'll have to consult the documentation for the game
[08:57] <djm62> yoav: you will be editing that file until you close the program
[08:57] <talisker> When I try to boot normally I get "Error 1: Filename must be either an absolute pathname or blocklist"
[08:57] <yoav> djm62: thx
[08:57] <XxFREDdiexX> Exxcaliber it dont have 1
[08:58] <MickMcMack> rambo3, yeah, I was going to say nano or pico. ^^ (I'm just bitter because my uni forces certain programs/DE's/WM's down our throats.
[08:58] <teebee> Hi
[08:58] <teebee> I'm new at Linux...
[08:58] <yoav> djm62: it asks for a password, and doesnt accept my password. any idea?
[08:58] <Sanne> teebee: welcome :)
[08:58] <tonyyarusso> Actually, check that.  I misremembered; they were linux-image-386 and linux-restricted-modules-386 this time.  What's that mean?
[08:59] <teebee> Sanne: Thanks
[08:59] <djm62> yoav: try again, with your normal user password
[08:59] <yoav> thats what im doing. 2nd time. no go
[08:59] <tonyyarusso> teebee: You're not the only one either.  I switched in August.
[08:59] <djm62> yoav: does it give you any particular error?
[08:59] <Exxcaliber> XxFREDdiexX, and there aren't any guides on google?
[09:00] <yoav> djm62: nope. just Sorry, try again.
[09:00] <recon0> does anybody know how to make a eyetoy webcam work? i'm new to linux, sorry
[09:00] <djm62> yoav: bear in mind that CaPiTaLiSaTiOn CoUnTs?
[09:00] <teebee> dskf
[09:00] <yoav> djm62: know i got my password right. yea, i checked caps
[09:00] <SockerFot> noone that can help me?
[09:00] <teebee> tonyyarusso: Can you help me at adding new programs?
[09:01] <djm62> yoav: I'm baffled then.  that's inexplicable
[09:01] <XxFREDdiexX> Exxcaliber nope
[09:01] <yoav> anyone?
[09:01] <tonyyarusso> teebee: Depends what they are, but probably.
[09:01] <recon0> nobody? (see above message)
[09:01] <yoav> djm62: thx anyway.
[09:01] <tonyyarusso> teebee: Which version are you running?
[09:01] <talisker> yoav, what are you trying to do?
[09:01] <yoyo> #fluendo
[09:01] <teebee> Tonyyarusso: Ubuntu 5.10
[09:02] <ompaul> yoav, are you the first installed user on the machine or is that someone else?
[09:02] <ClayG> can you format dos disks in ubuntu
[09:02] <tonyyarusso> teebee: Good stuff.  Breezy has a pretty slick app for adding a lot of stuff.
[09:02] <djm62> ClayG: I think so
[09:02] <tonyyarusso> teebee: Check out Applications > Add Applications and grab anything that looks cool.
[09:03] <Biscuitian_Warhe> How to I connect PPP using CHAP MD5 authentication?
[09:03] <djm62> ClayG: mkfs.msdos
[09:03] <djm62> ClayG: or mkfs generally, for other variants
[09:03] <yoav> talisker: trying to edit /etc/apt/sources.list , so i was clued to sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list, but it doesnt accept my password
[09:03] <ClayG> hmm
[09:03] <ClayG> nice thank you
[09:03] <ompaul> yoav, are you the first installed user on the machine or is that someone else?
[09:03] <yoav> ompaul: yes i am
[09:03] <tonyyarusso> teebee: That'll get most of the things you're likely to need for everyday work, and if you're looking for something else, let me know what it is and I might be able to point you in the right direction.
[09:03] <Sanne> Clay2: I think it's in this package: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/otherosfs/dosfstools
[09:03] <ompaul> yoav, did you set a root password?
[09:03] <Skies> is there any gedit like program without need of xserver???
[09:04] <hkais> hi
[09:04] <yoav> that might be it. how?
[09:04] <Skies> hi :P
[09:04] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Hullo
[09:04] <djm62> Skies: probably nano is good for that
[09:04] <yoav> ompaul: that might be it, how?
[09:04] <ompaul> yoav, did you set a password for root?
[09:04] <Skies> k
[09:04] <hkais> anyone here with a notebook and holding presentations?
[09:04] <ronny> hola hay algun chileno ?
[09:04] <teebee> tonyyarrussu:  FX: KSnakeRace: This program is not currently installable. It... Enable that section in the repositories
[09:04] <ompaul> yoav, if you did that is the (excuse the pun) root of the problem
[09:04] <teebee> Where is that?
[09:04] <ronny> alguien ke hable espaol
[09:04] <djm62> ronny: ve a #ubuntu-es
[09:04] <IcemanV9> !es
[09:04] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:05] <Exxcaliber> XxFREDdiexX, okay
[09:05] <ronny> thanks
[09:05] <yoav> ompaul: i didnt. is it still the root of it ? :}
[09:05] <SockerFot> my sound stopped working earlier today, just suddenly when i started up Ubuntu. any idea what might have happened?
[09:05] <yoav> ompaul: i should have or shou ldnt?
[09:05] <Exxcaliber> XxFREDdiexX, well, once you find the file, the command to making the link is "ln -s original-path placement-of-link"
[09:05] <Exxcaliber> XxFREDdiexX, Does that make sense?
[09:05] <ompaul> yoav, you should not have
[09:05] <BufordTJustice> hi, can someone help me with themes
[09:06] <yoav> ompaul: well, i didnt. stumped?
[09:06] <ompaul> yoav, launch a shell please
[09:06] <tonyyarusso> teebee: Which section did it say?
[09:06] <ompaul> yoav, a terminal
[09:06] <yoav> ompaul: a newbie... thx
[09:06] <talisker> yoav, what is your problem?
[09:06] <yoav> ompaul: gotit
[09:06] <BufordTJustice> I downloaded some gnome themes but cant install them in ubunutu as it requires .tar.gz files
[09:06] <teebee> tonyyarusso: Repositories...
[09:06] <ompaul> yoav, applications - accessories - terminal
[09:07] <BufordTJustice> i cant find any .tar.gz themes
[09:07] <quickdraw> where do I get X11/InrinisicP.h from in ubunut what package
[09:07] <yoav> talisker: trying to edit /etc/apt/sources.list , so i was clued to sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list, but it doesnt accept my password
[09:07] <XxFREDdiexX> Exxcaliber nm ill ask my coison later
[09:07] <Exxcaliber> XxFREDdiexX,  okay
[09:07] <talisker> yoav, sudo password and root password are not the same
[09:07] <yoav> ompaul: yea, got it
[09:07] <ompaul> yoav, in there please type id
[09:07] <yoav> ompaul: ok
[09:07] <talisker> did you try to visudo?
[09:07] <hkais> anyone here who uses a notebook with high resolution (>1024x768) and needs a connect to a beamer with 1024x768?
[09:07] <ompaul> yoav, what is the number beside your username
[09:08] <yoav> ompaul: 1000
[09:08] <BufordTJustice> can anyone help me with an issue with themes
[09:08] <ompaul> yoav, does it also say admin in that line?
[09:08] <tonyyarusso> How can I tell which repository a package is coming from?
[09:08] <yoav> ompaul, yea
[09:09] <teebee> tonyyaruso: Where is this folder/section: repository?
[09:09] <djm62> yoav: are you using an english-language keyboard layout?
[09:09] <ompaul> yoav, please type the following in that terminal "sudo -i" and press the return key it will ask for a password that is your password give it your password
[09:10] <ompaul> yoav, without the " so >>> sudo -i <<<
[09:10] <tonyyarusso> teebee: A repository is any place where a bunch of packages are stored.  We actually need to figure out which repository it's in, and enable that.  Alternatively, we can try just enabling a bunch, and seeing if that helps.
[09:10] <yoav> ompaul: thx, i found out what it was. to embarassed to say. but it wasnt caps...
[09:10] <teebee> tonyyarussso: Okay...
[09:10] <djm62> :)
[09:10] <djm62> yoav: actually, what was it...handy to know what can go wrong
[09:11] <yoav> djm62: i doubt it would be handy to any of you, just 1st day jerkoffs like me :] 
[09:11] <ompaul> yoav, well if you told us we may get a laugh but more important I might then be able to say to someone what it is your saying - you can message me - at least someone might know to ask it think of others in the same boat
[09:11] <teebee> tonyyarusso: I really dont understand that word... I'm from DK
[09:11] <nilux_05> can anyone help me to make .wmv file or .mpeg .avi play with tetem
[09:12] <stephans> #sus
[09:12] <tonyyarusso> teebee: That's fine; we'll figure it out.
[09:12] <ompaul> !tell nilux_05 about restricted
[09:12] <stephans> #suse
[09:12] <ompaul> nilux_05, please check the message from ubotu
[09:12] <yoav> yea ok, here goes the cold water: (first the excuse) i just fixed my local language layout, and it always reverts back to hebrew, i didnt notice it was doing that(password is invisible and all...)
[09:13] <Howdy125> kplayer not in repos :-(
[09:13] <ompaul> yoav, it is an unusual thing for that to happen, but hey something to keep in mind
[09:13] <yoav> ompaul: just as bad as caps :] 
[09:13] <ompaul> yoav, na
[09:13] <tonyyarusso> teebee: All right, let's try something.
[09:14] <teebee> tonyyarusso: Okay
[09:14] <yoav> thx anyway everyone
[09:14] <tonyyarusso> teebee: Open System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager
[09:14] <ompaul> yoav, I was caught by special characters in years gone by in passwords, so I would say nothing to worry about but a right pain non the less
[09:14] <teebee> Unable to get exclusive lock
[09:14] <teebee> This usually means that another package management application (like apt-get or aptitude) already running. Please close that application first.
[09:15] <yoav> ompaul, djm62, talisker, rambo3, thx
[09:15] <tonyyarusso> teebee: You'll have to close the Add Applications window first, and try again.
[09:15] <ompaul> yoav, have a good day
[09:15] <yoav> ompaul, thx
[09:15] <yoav> ompaul:  you too
[09:16] <teebee> tonyyarusso: It jumped out of the desktop... I needed to login again
[09:16] <tonyyarusso> teebee: Now that's just odd, but try it.
[09:17] <teebee> tonyyarusso: There it go
[09:17] <teebee> In
[09:17] <fr500> hello
[09:17] <maxwell> for some reason gnome is taking 5+ minutes to load the widgets, i dont reboot very often so I'm not sure exactly when this problem began, any ideas on how to fix this? (note: killing gdm and doing a startx loads gnome as fast as normal, no slowness)
[09:17] <tonyyarusso> teebee: Take a look in Settings > Repositories.
[09:18] <teebee> tonyyarusso: And then...
[09:18] <tonyyarusso> teebee: Tell me what you see.
[09:18] <Kelsey23> what is the path to libtcl.so on Hoary
[09:18] <SockerFot> im going crazy
[09:19] <teebee> tonyyarusso: CD Ubuntu 5.1 Breezy Badger (binary)
[09:19] <teebee> tonyyarusso: Software resources
[09:20] <tonyyarusso> teebee: Any others?
[09:20] <teebee> tonyyarusso: Nope
[09:20] <BlueDevil> did anyone build gstreamer 0.10 ubuntu packages?
[09:21] <tonyyarusso> teebee: Hit the Add button.
[09:21] <teebee> tonyyarusso: What then?
[09:21] <Sentinelle> Bonsoir tout le monde
[09:22] <tonyyarusso> teebee: Select Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" from the drop-down list if you see it.
[09:22] <SockerFot> whats the difference between standard session and GNOME session?
[09:22] <BlueDevil> so, noone on gstreamer 0.10?
[09:22] <teebee> tonyyarusso: Done
[09:22] <Sentinelle> J'aurais besoin d'une aide pour installer les lments de base comme Java entres autres sur Ubuntu
[09:23] <tonyyarusso> teebee: Go ahead and check all four boxes if you want; might as well.
[09:23] <BlueDevil> Sentinelle: tu peut chercher le site ubuntuforums.org
[09:23] <ompaul> !tell Sentinelle about fr
[09:23] <tucoz> Sentinelle, write /msg ubotu java
[09:23] <viller> why doesn't anyone at #ubuntu-artwork talk? why do they join the channel if they don't say anything
[09:24] <tonyyarusso> teebee: Then hit OK, OK, then Yes to reload the list.
[09:24] <jgw> viller: they might have day jobs
[09:24] <teebee> tonyyarusso: Done downloading... ETC.
[09:24] <jgw> viller: a lot of us idle on irc while at work and answer questions when we can
[09:24] <tonyyarusso> teebee: Click anywhere in the list and start typing ksnake.
[09:24] <viller> jgw: that's wierd
[09:25] <jgw> not really ;)
[09:25] <chrisx1> i do that n im in uk
[09:25] <tonyyarusso> teebee: If it shows up, we're set to install it.
[09:25] <viller> jgw: most of you work with comps?
[09:25] <chrisx1> answer q's if and when i see them
[09:25] <jgw> viller: i do
[09:25] <teebee> tonyyarusso: How to install a windows progra, such as GTA SA?
[09:26] <viller> jgw: where I live people think bad about them who spend time behind the computer or work with it
[09:26] <jgw> viller: where i live, we're revered :)
[09:26] <viller> jgw: thats sad, I think that comp people are smarter than the average
[09:26] <bozel> hi @ all
[09:26] <smo> viller, same problem.  I was literally chased out the local library for mentioning the C word
[09:26] <pozdiy> trying to install package "pymol", get missing dependency:"Depends: python (<2.4) but 2.4.1-0ubuntu2 is to be installed", what is actually missing?
[09:27] <viller> jgw: thats sad was not about you're reply :)
[09:27] <smo> (yes, the 8-letter one  hehe)
[09:27] <Milleniumgroup> Depends
[09:27] <jgw> viller: i dont spend all my time behind a computer though, either. its a big part of my life, but i also climb mountains, run marathons, road/mountain bike, and so on
[09:27] <MickMcMack> OUTSIDE?
[09:27] <viller> smo: the c word is comp?
[09:27] <smo> aye
[09:27] <Milleniumgroup> if you get well paid being a good worker sure... being a nerd who doesn't go outside = bad
[09:27] <MickMcMack> Milleniumgroup, LIES!
[09:27] <fr500> hello
[09:27] <Milleniumgroup> :)
[09:27] <tonyyarusso> teebee: That touches on a whole new realm.  Some windows programs are actually cross-platform, and will be just fine.  Others can be run with an emulator, such as WINE.  The rest won't run, but you might find a Linux or cross-platform app that does the same thing, which can be found by either asking in here or Googling "Linux like <<program>>" or something to that effect.
[09:27] <Milleniumgroup> :O
[09:27] <viller> jgw: yea I like sports a lot too, but I had this wierd illness for some time, I was very tired all the time, now I can do sports again
[09:27] <fr500> does anyone have a sony ericsson t610 paired with a laptop running breezy
[09:28] <Milleniumgroup> I think i know your sickness
[09:28] <viller> jgw, my favourite sport is footbag
[09:28] <teebee> tonyyarusso: Thats fine...
[09:28] <yoav> ompaul, got another minute?
[09:28] <Milleniumgroup> it's called (embrace yourself) *lazyiness*
[09:28] <jgw> viller: i know how that goes, you'll recoup
[09:28] <evilmegaman> uh oh. I am getting command not found when I type make :(
[09:28] <Milleniumgroup> J/K ;)
[09:28] <jgw> see, here footbaggers are looked down upon as hippies ;)
[09:28] <viller> does someone know how what's footbag?
[09:28] <_jason> evilmegaman, have you installed the build-essential package?
[09:28] <evilmegaman> Maybe not
[09:28] <evilmegaman> I will do that
[09:28] <chrisx1> !find libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so
[09:28] <jgw> viller: footbagging is big in my town, amongst hippies
[09:29] <tonyyarusso> teebee: Google is definitely a serious friend for those things.
[09:29] <chrisx1> umm
[09:29] <viller> jgw: hippies lol
[09:29] <_jason> christel, ubotu is not with us right now I believe
[09:29] <tonyyarusso> teebee: Did you figure out the rest of the steps to install ksnake, or are we still working on that?
[09:29] <teebee> tonyyarusso: Googles is a freind for everyone... *GG*
[09:29] <sorsis> never trust a hippie
[09:29] <chrisx1> o
[09:29] <chrisx1> _jason, ok
[09:29] <ompaul> yoav, ask your question, address the channel, if I happen to know then most likely I will chip in if no one else does :)
[09:29] <teebee> tonyyarusso: I'm downloading those files rigth now...
[09:29] <_jason> chrisx1, nvr mnd, he's here
[09:29] <chrisx1> anyone know where libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so is?
[09:30] <chrisx1> !find libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so
[09:30] <chrisx1> !find libstdc++-libc6.2-2
[09:30] <viller> jgw: I play footbag a bit proffesionnaly, I do 'real' tricks, It tackes a lot of practice and it's physically very exhausting (it actually is)
[09:30] <trappist> chrisx1: apt-file search is your friend
[09:30] <trappist> libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2: usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
[09:30] <tonyyarusso> teebee: Perfect.
[09:30] <jgw> viller: yeah
[09:30] <chrisx1> ooo
[09:30] <chrisx1> ty
[09:30] <maxwell> for some reason gnome is taking 5+ minutes to load the widgets, i dont reboot very often so I'm not sure exactly when this problem began, any ideas on how to fix this? (note: killing gdm and doing a startx loads gnome as fast as normal, no slowness)
[09:31] <yoav> k. im trying to compile amule, and bottom line is that im getting this now on the terminal - E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[09:31] <yoav> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[09:31] <trappist> maxwell: try sudo iptables -I INPUT -s 127.0.0.1 -j ACCEPT
[09:31] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so' returned no results.
[09:31] <viller> yoaw: maybe sudo will help
[09:31] <student> anyone have any experience with modems?
[09:31] <maxwell> trappist, what will that do exactly?
[09:31] <jgw> student: just ask your question
[09:32] <tonyyarusso> teebee: I found a page suggesting extracting the .cab files for gta first with something like Cedega, and then claiming it would run with wine v0.9, so you can try that.
[09:32] <BlueDevil> yoav: if not sudo, maybe it's locked by synaptic
[09:32] <cnet2> what-s the setup command for ubuntu?  I installed ubuntu and found out it didn't install the cc compiler.
[09:32] <viller> yoav: sorry for tiping ur name wrong
[09:32] <XxFREDdiexX> need help installing amican amy
[09:32] <trappist> maxwell: make sure connections from localhost are allowed - I've noticed that gnome produces some invalid tcp packets on lo, which a lot of firewalls will block even though it's coming from localhost
[09:32] <tonyyarusso> student: I have experience with mine, but not much else.
[09:32] <teebee> tonyyarusso: Okay
[09:32] <BlueDevil> cnet2: synaptic
[09:32] <ryan__> Q: does anyone know the correct line I would add to /boot/grub/menu.lst to add a windows boot option to the startup list?
[09:32] <jgw> cnet2: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:32] <yoav> viller, i used sudo for edit the sources list(no pro about the name), and also for running the install
[09:32] <erUSUL> student, i use an external usb (acm) modem
[09:32] <chrisx1> trappist, bash: apt-file: command not found
[09:32] <trappist> maxwell: which will slow gnome down a lot as it waits for those connections to timeout
[09:32] <maxwell> trappist, thanks
[09:32] <_jason> christel, you have to install apt-file
[09:33] <trappist> chrisx1: yeah you have to install it then run sudo apt-file update
[09:33] <trappist> maxwell: please let me know if it works
[09:33] <yoav> BlueDevil, how do i unlock synaptic? its not on the package list there, amule
[09:33] <chrisx1> E: Couldn't find package apt-file
[09:33] <cnet2> thanks
[09:33] <maxwell> i just uninstalled iptables, didnt mean to have it on there at all
[09:33] <trappist> _jason: irssi completion is the bomb
[09:33] <_jason> is there a way to turn off the cycling feature of auto-completion?
[09:33] <maxwell> rebooting now
[09:33] <ryan__> Is there such thing as "hd" instead of "hd0" in /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[09:33] <viller> yoav: i don't exactly understand what you said, just type sudo whateveryourcommandis
[09:33] <trappist> maxwell: cool, lemme know when you get back :)
[09:33] <teebee> tonyyarusso: Thanks... Then i'm nealy up and running... Started yesterday.
[09:33] <XxFREDdiexX> need help instaling amicans amay
[09:33] <chrisx1> trappist, How??
[09:33] <Kelsey23> ryan__:no
[09:34] <trappist> chrisx1: sudo apt-get install apt-file && sudo apt-file update
[09:34] <ompaul> yoav, three things to know (A) amule is in universe (B) this means that you have to add it to the repositries (C) to do this you need to send a message to the bot this one >>/msg ubotu repos<<
[09:34] <Kelsey23> ryan__: hd0, hd1, hd2, etc.
[09:34] <tonyyarusso> teebee: Awesome timing.  It took me more like a week because of my softmodem.
[09:34] <chrisx1> trappist, E: Couldn't find package apt-file
[09:34] <ryan__> kelsey23: Thanks, I have linux under hd0, and I'm guessing windows is under hd1, but I can't get the right code to boot it
[09:34] <viller> ok I'm going to sleep now
[09:34] <viller> bye
[09:34] <trappist> chrisx1: sounds like your sources.list is a little slim
[09:34] <yoav> viller, i did. specifically -  sudo apt-get update && apt-get install amule
[09:34] <XxFREDdiexX> tell me
[09:34] <yoav>  , then it goes through the process and at the end it gives that line
[09:34] <ompaul> yoav, that will give you all the info you need to install the package - you do not need to build it from source, in fact as a 1st day user you should not try to
[09:34] <BlueDevil> yoav: you need to enable universe to get amule
[09:35] <teebee> tonyyarusso: I  havn't got ADSL... But i'm home at one of my freind.
[09:35] <chrisx1> no idea could u paste urs please trappist in pm?
[09:35] <student> I'm supposed to see if I can get a computer running linux to recognize this internal modem.  The auto-setup thing doesn't recognize that the modem is there.  All my reading online tells me that setting up an internal modem can be difficult, especially if it is a winmodem.  Most places suggested that I simply try different settings while trying to connect.  But I don't have a phone line to experiment with.  Any suggestions?
[09:35] <trappist> !tell chrisx1 about repos
[09:36] <tonyyarusso> teebee: So some quick things you should know:  Add Applications or Synaptic will take care of most of your installation needs.
[09:36] <yoav> ompaul, so i input >>/msg ubotu repos<< and i also need to enable universe?
[09:36] <chrisx1> pastebin down?
[09:36] <erUSUL> student, have you checked linmodems.org?
[09:36] <ompaul> yoav, you start there to get info you need
[09:36] <tonyyarusso> teebee: For things not listed initially, Google them.  Depending, you may get an "apt line" or the .deb package itself.
[09:36] <teebee> tonyyarusso: Okay... But i have to go now... School day tomorrow...
[09:37] <ompaul> yoav, you can change repos for synaptic if you like
[09:37] <tonyyarusso> teebee: This will only take a second.
[09:37] <chrisx1> trappist,  is pastebin down?
[09:37] <chrisx1> The connection was refused when attempting to contact paste.ubuntulinux.nl.
[09:37] <teebee> tonyyarusso: Okay
[09:37] <student> yeah, some.  I find it very confusing becuase I really don't get the technical language.
[09:37] <fr500> mna bluetooth and my 7610 worked like charm in hoary, did a breezy clean install and now it's not working
[09:37] <tonyyarusso> teebee: Apt lines mean you can just add them the same way you did the Ubuntu official ones in Synaptic, but instead of the dropdown list, hit Custom, and copy-paste the address, then reload and go.
[09:38] <teebee> okay
[09:38] <chrisx1> can anyone tell me if u can access this http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325
[09:38] <holycow> http://www.gnomejournal.org/article/33/macedonia-deploys-5000-gnome-in-public-schools  <-- neato
[09:38] <BlueDevil> yoav: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#addinguniverse
[09:38] <tonyyarusso> teebee: For packages, open a terminal window, "sudo dpkg -i /full/path/packagename.deb, and you're done.
[09:38] <yoav> ompaul, thx again, im trying it
[09:38] <tonyyarusso> teebee: Good luck, and enjoy!
[09:39] <BlueDevil> chrisx1: nope, cannot connect to host
[09:39] <yoav> BlueDevil, thx
[09:39] <BlueDevil> yoav: yw
[09:39] <chrisx1> damn pastebin is off
[09:39] <teebee> tonyyarusso: Thanks again... And hope to chat to you another time...
[09:39] <tonyyarusso> teebee: See you around.
[09:39] <chrisx1> !easysource
[09:39] <ubotu> it has been said that easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:40] <maxwell> trappist, i uninstalled iptables, rebooted, but gnome widgets still taking 5+ minutes to load
[09:41] <evilmegaman> I am creating my own kernel, What processor family is intel pentium D?
[09:41] <recon0> until paste.ubuntulinux.nl is back up, we could use ubuntu.pastebin.com
[09:42] <_jason> what ISP can you use to get modem access to the internet?
[09:42] <yoav> ompaul, yoav@yoavbuntu:~$ >>/msg ubotu synaptic<<
[09:42] <yoav> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[09:42] <yoav>  , and im getting the same with repos
[09:42] <ompaul> yoav, stop
[09:42] <jgw> evil: i686
[09:42] <yoav> ompaul, stopping
[09:42] <jgw> err evilmegaman: i686
[09:42] <evilmegaman> :) thanks jgw
[09:42] <_jason> yoav, type that in xchat
[09:42] <linux_newb> Hi all, i installed ubuntu a couple of days ago, I installed nvidia drivers and everything was working fine for a while, except today after rebooting the desktop resolution is 640X480 and I can't change it , any ideas how i can fix it?  Also, when i boot up, im getting 2 errors, "missing command to run" and "you must run this program as the root user"
[09:42] <ompaul> yoav, you can (A) message me or (B) join me in #ubuntu-ie as there is little or no traffic there
[09:43] <Skies> omfg I updated my pc to dapper, the loading screen is like drawn with paint :d
[09:43] <ompaul> yoav, we would be creating a lot of noise they don't need here
[09:43] <Milleniumgroup> linux-newb you need to run as sudo in some cases sudo = superuser
[09:43] <BlueDevil> yoav: use the instructions at the page I sent you
[09:43] <Milleniumgroup> and you need to edit your x11 in order to change resolution
[09:43] <chrisx1> anyone have an idea when pastebin will be back up??
[09:43] <noplease> hi@all
[09:44] <erUSUL> linux_newb, run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:44] <linux_newb> ok
[09:44] <Milleniumgroup> type sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:44] <jrw146_> Er... total brainfart here... I can't seem to remember how to mount my second harddrive.
[09:44] <rysiek> hi there
[09:44] <Milleniumgroup> or do the easy way lol sorry as erUSUL said
[09:44] <_jason> chrisx1, http://pastebin.com/
[09:44] <chrisx1> naw
[09:44] <Milleniumgroup> hi
[09:44] <chrisx1> i need ubuntus
[09:45] <rysiek> got a question: any ideas on how to play APE files on Ubuntu?
[09:45] <_jason> chrisx1, oh you are trying to retrieve something?
[09:45] <sethk> jrw146_, if you first is hda, the second is hdb
[09:45] <chrisx1> yes
[09:45] <rysiek> or rather in XMMS
[09:45] <chrisx1> offical repos
[09:45] <_jason> chrisx1, use source-o-matic
[09:45] <chrisx1> !eassource
[09:45] <ubotu> chrisx1: I don't know, could you explain it?
[09:45] <chrisx1> !eassources
[09:45] <ubotu> chrisx1: I don't know, could you explain it?
[09:45] <_jason> ubotu, tell chrisx1 about easysource
[09:45] <tonyyarusso> jrw146_: Unless you're actually dealing with partitions, in which case hda2.
[09:45] <bluefrog-10> rysiek, install ape plugins, search in synaptic
[09:46] <BlueDevil> jrw146_: if you use SATA drives or SCSI ones, then use sda as first hd, sdb and so on..
[09:46] <linux_newb> is 64 mb 64000 kb?
[09:46] <chrisx1> ubuntus site is down?
[09:46] <sethk> linux_newb, yes
[09:47] <sethk> linux_newb, 1k = 1024 bytes, the rest is just multiplying by 1000, 1000000, etc.
[09:47] <_jason> chrisx1, seems to be
[09:47] <chrisx1> _jason, grr
[09:47] <erUSUL> linux_newb, no 65536
[09:47] <sethk> erUSUL, that's 65536 bytes, but 64000 kbytes
[09:47] <jrw146_> Two IDE Drives, one 30gb, one 120gb. 30gb was partitioned using ubuntu's utilities upon installation. the 120GB is partitioned using NTFS.
[09:47] <crimsun> chrisx1: ubuntu.com is up for me.
[09:47] <trappist> sethk: a mb is 1024 kb, a gb is 1024 mb etc.
[09:47] <sethk> erUSUL, because 64000 * 1024
[09:47] <sethk> trappist, no
[09:47] <chrisx1> ubuntulinux.nl aint
[09:47] <_jason> chrisx1, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade has a copy of it
[09:48] <sethk> transgress, that isn't how it works.  Look  it up.
[09:48] <chrisx1> ty
[09:48] <trappist> sethk: yes, it's all powers of two
[09:48] <_jason> chrisx1, source-o-matic is up now lol
[09:48] <sethk> trappist, sorry, but no, it isn't.  read the number of blocks on your hard drive, figure out the bytes, and you'll see.
[09:48] <evilmegaman> jgw, I think I need to add SMP support so I added that, And now I need to know what I should have for maximum number of CPU's. What should I put?
[09:49] <EnCCodEr> E a gente! boa noit! :)
[09:49] <erUSUL> sethk, yes it is how it works you are counting just like hd makers do to fool customers.
[09:50] <_jason> !br
[09:50] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.
[09:50] <sethk> erUSUL, no, that makes it even less than what I'm saying
[09:50] <smo> erUSUL: that's actually the SI standard.  kb=1,000  mb=1,000,000 etc
[09:50] <sethk> erUSUL,the hard drive makers cheat by using 1000 instead of 1024
[09:50] <linux_newb> well im confused lol
[09:50] <sethk> erUSUL, although they propagated the "standard" that smo mentions to legitimize the cheating they've been doing for years
[09:51] <EnCCodEr> Algum poderia me dizer por gentiliza onde consigo a liosta p/ instalar o blender via apt-get?
[09:51] <erUSUL> sethk, that's what you are saying
[09:51] <trappist> sethk: yes, that's what I mean.  in hard drive manufacturer market-speak, 1gb=1000kb.  but not in real life :)
[09:51] <trappist> err 1000000kb
[09:51] <sethk> trappist, correct.  1K is 1024 bytes.  But 1 meg is not 1024*1024, it's 1000*1024
[09:51] <sethk> trappist, which is, of course, a power of two
[09:52] <erUSUL> sethk, 1 MB is 1024 kb
[09:52] <EnCCodEr> Ummm...a  english chanel...
[09:52] <sethk> erUSUL, no, it isn't.  look it up.
[09:52] <_jason> EnCCodEr, /join #ubuntu-br < ai e so portugueses para ajudarem
[09:52] <trappist> sethk: look it up where, please
[09:53] <sioux> hi people who help me to configure 3d drivers for my ati range 128. the guide on wiki do not work for this card and ATI do not provide offical driver :( Please help
[09:53] <sethk> trappist, find an online calculator that converts units, for example.
[09:53] <EnCCodEr> Qual o canal no Brasil?
[09:53] <smo> kilo is 10^4, mega is 10^6.  kibi is 2^10, mebi is 2^10, etc.
[09:53] <sethk> smo, correct
[09:53] <trappist> sethk: dd if=/dev/zero of=1megfile bs=1024 count=1024
[09:54] <sethk> smo, except, conventionally, 1k is 1024
[09:54] <sethk> trappist, that shows nothing, except that you named your file 1megfile
[09:54] <trappist> sethk: look at the output
[09:54] <trappist> sethk: and du -h it
[09:54] <sethk> dd if=/dev/zero of=1megfile bs=1024 count=12
[09:54] <EnCCodEr> Good night! I a new Ubuntu user...anyone can haelp me to install blender?
[09:54] <sethk> trappist, I have, many times.  du -h is a round off, you can't use it.
[09:54] <linux_newb> ok so is my 64mb vid card 64000 bytes or not
[09:54] <sethk> linux_newb, no, it's 65535
[09:55] <linux_newb> ok thanks
[09:55] <sethk> linux_newb, no, sorry
[09:55] <sethk> linux_newb, its 64 * 1024 * 1000
[09:55] <linux_newb> lol
[09:55] <sethk> linux_newb, but it isn't 64000, everyone agrees about that.  :)
[09:56] <sethk> trappist, look in the Oxford dictionary of computing, that's where my definition comes from.
[09:56] <linux_newb> well anyway my vid card was working fine yesterday, and now its not, i dont get the nvidia spalsh screen now
[09:56] <sethk> linux_newb, that's too bad, but what does it have to do with the amount of memory?
[09:57] <sethk> linux_newb, what did you change?
[09:57] <linux_newb> and it will only display 640x480 res
[09:57] <erUSUL> sethk, the units program agrees with you bu i do not ;)
[09:57] <linux_newb> well i tried to run that command
[09:57] <Chris_in_the_uk> hey all, i'm looking for help setting up a console bittorrent client
[09:57] <linux_newb> and it went through all this stuff and asked me to manually enter the kb
[09:57] <sethk> erUSUL, I don't claim that it makes any sense, only that it is the way it is usually used.
[09:57] <linux_newb> i havent changed anything
[09:57] <sethk> linux_newb, that's ignored unless you have an ancient card.
[09:57] <trappist> sethk: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megabyte  also google for define:megabyte.  the definition depends on the application.
[09:57] <hkais> anyone here with a nforce 4 sli board?
[09:57] <sethk> linux_newb, the amount of memory is autodetected.
[09:58] <rambo3> i new type in amount of memory for vid-card . only soed problems in the past
[09:58] <rambo3> new =never
[09:58] <sethk> trappist, wikipedia is just something that someone wrote.  It has no authority whatsoever.
[09:58] <linux_newb> ok well how do u suggest i fix it?
[09:58] <Chris_in_the_uk> i've been trying to set up cTorrent but it says there's errors with the C++ Compiler although i have one installed
[09:58] <sethk> linux_newb, something has to have changed.  I try the apt-get thing that reconfigures X
[09:58] <HrdwrBoB> trappist: it was redefined to be differen
[09:58] <HrdwrBoB> different
[09:59] <HrdwrBoB> by companies monopolising on it
[09:59] <linux_newb> apt-get thing
[09:59] <mbruemmer> hello i have a question, about how much hd space is needed for the ubuntu installation
[09:59] <sethk> linux_newb, I forget the syntax, if you don't know it I'll look it up, or someone will know it.
[09:59] <Hericus> Atleast 5Gb should be satisfactory. mbruemmer.
[09:59] <navarone> mbruemer> you would probably need 5gb max for comfort...but more is better
[10:00] <erUSUL> sethk, linux_newb sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:00] <Chris_in_the_uk> mbruemmer, i've installed the server (text only) version on a 3 gB harddrive
[10:00] <linux_newb> i tried that
[10:00] <rickardg> anybody managed to install the ruby bindings for sqlite on Breezy?
[10:00] <Hericus> I agree with navarone, you'd be unhappy with anything less than 30GB. The more space you have, the happier you'd become.
[10:00] <cafuego> mbruemmer: 2GB minimum, more is nicer, as you can install more stuff and save more documents.
[10:00] <navarone> mbruemer> i left ubuntu approx 12 gb after setting up new hard drive and leaving freespace
[10:01] <Milleniumgroup> Milleniumgroup type sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf (warning*)
[10:01] <Milleniumgroup> do that linux-newb at your own risk of course
[10:01] <mbruemmer> cafuego my girlfriend only have 1.2 gb is there any solution???
[10:01] <sethk> mbruemmer, it depends very much on how much you need to install.
[10:01] <navarone> mbruemer>depends on if you are doing server install and do not plan on using a gui or desktop environment
[10:01] <cafuego> Hericus: What nonsense, I'm very happy with an install on a 12G disk.
[10:01] <sethk> mbruemmer, you can fit it into 1.2 gig but you'll have to be very very careful about what you install
[10:01] <rambo3> yes live cd , or knoppix
[10:01] <sethk> mbruemmer, that's really too small for the full GUI desktop, IMHO
[10:01] <Milleniumgroup> linux-newb read this
[10:02] <Chris_in_the_uk> mbruemmer, how much ram do you have on that machine? you'll need atleast 64MB for a server install
[10:02] <cafuego> mbruemmer: Yes. Install the base system first, then add 'xubuntu-desktop'. That will give her XFCE, which is much smaller (and faster) than Gnome.
[10:02] <Hericus> cafuego, yes, I'm sure the installation would make you "happy" however, to run most software and what not, you'd be happy with a bigger harddrive, something of atleast 40GB.
[10:02] <themuffenmann> just give ubuntu 10-20 gigs and youll be fine
[10:02] <Milleniumgroup> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=423584 ATI but you can use it or search for a similar guide
[10:02] <cafuego> Hericus: No.
[10:02] <mbruemmer> cafuego: only internet and a text programm, she is not that interessted in pc
[10:02] <linux_newb> its asking me to please eneter video cards bus identifier
[10:02] <eedge> How can I create a SMB share of a linux folder so its accessable from my win2k station?
[10:02] <cafuego> mbruemmer: *nod* xfce with fiorefox, thunderbird and abiword. SHould be great :-)
[10:02] <linux_newb> it has PCI:1:0:0 written in the box already but its agp card
[10:03] <Milleniumgroup> read the guide
[10:03] <cafuego> linux_newb: Yes, AGP == pci
[10:03] <Milleniumgroup> or search for "nvidia drivers"
[10:03] <Milleniumgroup> in the forum
[10:03] <hkais> anyone here with a nforce 4 sli board under ubuntu?
[10:03] <navarone> I think the larger numbers are for if you are going to be saving large files as well...I mean amany people use ubuntu and plain linux as entertainment jukeboxes...
[10:03] <Milleniumgroup> there's a big guide to help ya out
[10:03] <cafuego> linux_newb: Specifically, pci bus 1:0:0 is agp :-)
[10:03] <linux_newb> they were working fine yestreday:(
[10:03] <Hericus> cafuego, you're entitled to your opinion.
[10:03] <mbruemmer> cafuego: thx for your information
[10:04] <mbruemmer> cafuego: but how much hd space will be left there??
[10:04] <cafuego> Hericus: Claiming an Ubuntu install in 40G runs better then one in 12 (or 5 for that matter) is nonsense.
[10:04] <Chris_in_the_uk> mbruemmer: how much RAM do you have on your box?
[10:04] <Hericus> cafuego, you misunderstand me.
[10:04] <cafuego> mbruemmer: With xfce, probably a few hundred Mb.
[10:04] <mbruemmer> cafuego: 128mb
[10:04] <themuffenmann> just give the install a 10 gig partition and youll be fine
[10:04] <Chris_in_the_uk> mbruemmer: that will be fine then, ignore me :)
[10:05] <Hericus> cafuego, running ubuntu on a 40GB would be better for someone to run, because of much more space than a  12GB HD.
[10:05] <cafuego> mbruemmer: Just keep in mind to do the 'server' install, ut the default one.
[10:05] <B_166-ER-X> what would be a good Burning app to burn .ISO files ?
[10:05] <sethk> Hericus, no, not if the space is never used
[10:05] <cafuego> B_166-ER-X: right click the file, choose 'Burb'
[10:05] <soundray> B_166-ER-X, I use nautilus for that.
[10:05] <vegos> my clock goes 2 times faster than it should be, can anyone help
[10:05] <navarone> mbruemer> I have 256 w/Athlon 1.2ghz...and I'm thinking of getting more memory...however if you opt for xfce as desktop you would be ebtter off with lower ram
[10:05] <MasterTsunami> k3b, gnomebaker, take your pick :/
[10:05] <sethk> B_166-ER-X, cdrecord, if you don't mind CLI
[10:05] <themuffenmann> B_166-ER-X:, just right click on the .iso and click burn to disk
[10:05] <Hericus> sethk, well if the space isn't used, then a 4GB would suffice.
[10:05] <cafuego> Eh, burn.
[10:05] <themuffenmann> write to disk*
[10:06] <mbruemmer> cafuego: thanks again that was a great help!
[10:06] <Hericus> sethk, I still stand with what I said before, its always better to have a bigger HD.
[10:06] <mbruemmer> cafuego:cu
[10:06] <Chris_in_the_uk> haricus: it would be possibly better to get 2 10gb harddrives than 1 40gb harddrive, it depends what you want the machine to do!
[10:06] <cafuego> mbruemmer: No problem :-)
[10:06] <Hericus> What language is that?
[10:06] <cafuego> navarone: xfce also runs better with more ram ;-)
[10:06] <Chris_in_the_uk> Hericus: German
[10:06] <sethk> Hericus, no, actually, that's quite untrue.  At some size you would definitely encounter significant unnecessary overhead
[10:06] <Chris_in_the_uk> und tschus
[10:06] <soundray> navarone, I don't think you mean what you just said. Even with xfce, more memory is better.
[10:06] <navarone> cafuego...I'd imagine any desktop os would
[10:06] <cafuego> No no, tschs
[10:07] <themuffenmann> just install the ubuntu partition with 3-4 gigs and use Fluxbox
[10:07] <eedge> How can I create a SMB share of a linux folder so its accessable from my win2k station?
[10:07] <cafuego> make mit ze accents!
[10:07] <navarone> Imeant if he had no plans to upgrade memory then xfce would be a better eprformer
[10:07] <Hericus> sethk, :) it isn't my intention to have an argument over harddrive space.
[10:07] <cafuego> eedge: System -> Administration -> Shared Folders
[10:07] <eedge> Oh :)
[10:07] <eedge> lol
[10:07] <cafuego> navarone: indeed
[10:07] <Chris_in_the_uk> cafuego: i think it is an umlaut - and cya is almost the same as und tschus
[10:07] <soundray> navarone, that's what I thought you meant... I concur with that.
[10:08] <navarone> I wonder if there sucha thing as typing dyslexia...<s>
[10:08] <cafuego> Chris_in_the_uk: Ja, das ist sicher ein Umlaut.
[10:08] <Milleniumgroup> http://www.germane-software.com/~ser/Files/Essays/RPM_Hell.html = why RPM is a disaster
[10:08] <Chris_in_the_uk> cafuego: how do you do that from command line - the SMB share?
[10:08] <cafuego> Chris_in_the_uk: $EDITOR /etc/smb/samba.conf
[10:08] <Chris_in_the_uk> cheers
[10:08] <soundray> navarone, yes, it's called dyspraxia.
[10:08] <cafuego> Chris_in_the_uk: Note, you must add a user to samba via 'smbpasswd' to access it.
[10:09] <Chris_in_the_uk> ok
[10:09] <navarone> I think i ahve it...maybe I can get a government grant...<s>
[10:09] <chrisx1> where can i get libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
[10:09] <jgrieves> Milleniumgroup old news who uses RPM :)
[10:09] <vegos> my clock goes 2 times faster than it should be, can anyone help
[10:09] <Chris_in_the_uk> cafuego: i'll work that one out once i've installed something else
[10:09] <Taa5i> Has anyone had success getting an HP NetRaid controller to properly display its logical drives in Ubuntu?  In Gentoo they showed up out of the box.
[10:09] <soundray> vegos, Hi
[10:09] <Chris_in_the_uk> vegos: which clock?
[10:09] <Milleniumgroup> jgrieves, true, but im just getting started.. I switched from windows - linux 2 months ago :)
[10:09] <vegos> haha
[10:09] <vegos> soundray, i did the noapic
[10:09] <vegos> and it fixed my clock
[10:09] <jgrieves> Milleniumgroup never look to PRM
[10:10] <jgrieves> RPM
[10:10] <vegos> but i couldnt connect via wireless anymore
[10:10] <Milleniumgroup> I won't deb all the way :)
[10:10] <Hericus> sethk, how long have you been running ubuntu?
[10:10] <jgrieves> Milleniumgroup i spent countless hours this weekend in rpm heck in AIX
[10:10] <Hericus> Out of mild curiousity.
[10:10] <Milleniumgroup> damn unix cool
[10:10] <Milleniumgroup> well not so cool about the RPM part
[10:10] <soundray> vegos, next step is to try nolapic (note an additional l)
[10:11] <deltron> lol
[10:11] <chrisx1> how can i remotely use a linux desktop?
[10:11] <deltron> I'm working on an AIX box a ork
[10:11] <soundray> vegos, and see if it fixes your clock without affecting your wireless.
[10:11] <hkais> really nobody here with a nforce 4 sli board under ubuntu?
[10:11] <vegos> ok
[10:11] <deltron> chrisx1: ssh + remote x forwarding
[10:11] <deltron> chrisx1: or ssh + vnc
[10:11] <Milleniumgroup> nice :)
[10:11] <chrisx1> how do i do that?
[10:11] <vegos> brb
[10:11] <chrisx1> how do i enable vnc via ssh?
[10:12] <chrisx1> brb
[10:12] <deltron> chrisx1: http://pigtail.net/LRP/vnc/
[10:12] <jesse> Does Any one  know how to install alien
[10:12] <Techie_dude> does anyone know if there is any webcam streaming programs that are in the synaptic
[10:12] <soundray> jesse, apt-get install alien
[10:12] <Agrajag> sudo apt-get install alien
[10:12] <jesse> whats apt-get
[10:13] <soundray> jesse, are you on ubuntu?
[10:13] <deltron> jesse: use synaptic, or apt-get to install the application
[10:13] <jesse> yaim in ubuntu
[10:13] <deltron> Techie_dude: apt-cache search webcam or search for webcam in synaptic
[10:13] <Techie_dude> okay
[10:13] <soundray> jesse, you can open a terminal window, and enter 'sudo apt-get install alien' on the command line.
[10:13] <jesse> ookthanku
[10:14] <deltron> hmm
[10:14] <soundray> jesse, but by the sounds of it, you should look whether you can install the package you need with apt-get instead of alien.
[10:14] <deltron> I need to create a deb package for ultra vnc
[10:14] <deltron> hehe
[10:15] <jesse> idk whataptget is
[10:15] <deltron> go to a terminal, and type sudo apt-get
[10:15] <_jason> jesse, do you know what synaptic is?
[10:15] <linukso> Hi! Is it normal for gnome to take 45 sec. to start up (from gdm login)?
[10:15] <jesse> No
[10:15] <Techie_dude> i know i sound crazy but i am getting every package that starts with lib so i won't hav eto hunt for packages
[10:16] <_jason> ubotu, tell jesse about synaptic
[10:16] <cafuego> deltron: By far the easiest way (if you only need a binary package) would be 'checkinstall'.
[10:16] <ompaul> cafuego, ubotu on holiday?
[10:16] <soundray> linukso, what kind of machine?
[10:16] <_jason> jesse, once you understand what synaptic is, think of apt-get as the command line way of doing what you do in synaptic
[10:16] <ompaul> !!
[10:16] <ubotu> well, ! is what you add before a sentence to talk to me
[10:16] <linukso> I am running breezy, and my computer is a 1ghz pentium 3 mobile with 512 mb ram
[10:16] <ompaul> cafuego, not happening over in -ie
[10:17] <linukso> soundray: I don't start anything extra, only networkmanager...
[10:17] <deltron> cafuego: it's not that hard to create debs though
[10:17] <soundray> linukso, my guess is that something is holding you up, then timing out and making way for the Gnome start to complete.
[10:18] <soundray> linukso, one way to check would be to switch to a text console with Alt-Ctrl-F1, and login...
[10:18] <linukso> soundray: with startx?
[10:18] <linukso> soundray: I will create an extra user just to see if a set of fresh startup scripts takes just as long...
[10:19] <soundray> linukso, no, run 'tail -f .xsession-errors on the text console...
[10:19] <linukso> ah, ok.
[10:19] <hkais> really nobody here with a nforce 4 sli board under ubuntu? which boards do you use here?
[10:19] <deltron> there's really not a linux client for ultravnc, outside of the java browser
[10:19] <soundray> linukso, then switch to gdm, login, switch back to text, and follow the startup messages.
[10:19] <deltron> *shrugs*
[10:19] <jesse> o thats the package manager thinie
[10:19] <jesse> i know what that is
[10:19] <deltron> yes
[10:20] <jesse> ya i know what synaptic is
[10:20] <linukso> soundray: ok, I will try that.
[10:20] <_jason> jesse, you can install alien with synaptic
[10:20] <_jason> !info alien
[10:20] <ubotu> alien: (install non-native packages with dpkg), section admin, is optional. Version: 8.53 (breezy), Packaged size: 112 kB, Installed size: 288 kB
[10:20] <soundray> linukso, I think network trouble can cause gnome start delays.
[10:20] <vegos> soundray?
[10:20] <soundray> vegos ?
[10:21] <jesse> ya i did that alien thing with synaptic
[10:21] <vegos> nolapic stopped me at boot
[10:21] <_jason> jesse, may I ask why you need alien?
[10:21] <jesse> now i got alot of folders and files and idont know what to do with them
[10:21] <jesse> for this thing for soulseek its a rpm file
[10:21] <vegos> what is the directory of the list
[10:21] <vegos> i have to get there through recovery
[10:21] <soundray> vegos, too bad. Back to noapic then, and probably try to fix the wireless...
[10:22] <soundray> vegos /boot/grub/
[10:22] <thundr> The panel in gnome on the top has moved everything right about 4 inches.  Any idea why this happened?
[10:22] <soundray> vegos /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:22] <vegos> lok
[10:22] <vegos> thanks
[10:22] <soundray> thundr, you switched the screen resolution. Very annoying panel behavior.
[10:23] <jesse> What Do i do after i use synaptic
[10:23] <Techie_dude> i donwloaded java from the website for firefox...my browser wouldn't get the plugin so i had to do it manually so..... how do i get the java to work in firefox
[10:23] <_jason> jesse, I don't use souldseek, however according to the wiki "nicotine" is a client for the soulseek network.  It is packaged for ubuntu, so you should be able to install it using synaptic
[10:23] <thundr> Soundray, It is.  Should I file a bug, or just move everything back the way it was?
[10:23] <rambo3> you need to link the plugin to mozilla
[10:24] <rambo3> there are tutorials on ubuntu website
[10:24] <soundray> thundr, maybe both.
[10:24] <bllx> can anyone tell me how to change your UID  (user ID) number in Ubuntu? In Admin->Users and Groups its an unavailable option, even as admin
[10:24] <rambo3> why do you want to do that
[10:24] <soundray> bllx, you'd edit /etc/passwd for that. But be ready for side effects...
[10:25] <bllx> to have rw privs on a mac os x hfsplus partition
[10:25] <jesse> i cant find the  nicotine
[10:25] <bllx> bad ones? ;)
[10:25] <soundray> bllx, suggest you change your mount options instead.
[10:25] <levander> After I upgraded to breezy last night, fetchmail stopped downloading my mail from gmail.  Anybody know of any changes I should be aware of?
[10:25] <rambo3> cant you just mount partition with users and add your self to the group
[10:26] <jesse> thanks you for the help but i got to go
[10:26] <jesse> bye
[10:26] <Watje> Does anyone knows a good program to manage a tournament (on a lanparty)?
[10:26] <bllx> sound: in what way?
[10:26] <soundray> bllx, pass it an option... I think it's called umask=0000
[10:26] <linukso> soundray: hi! I get some errors in .xsession-errors that I cant figure out...
[10:27] <bllx> im mounting manually only as and when i need it, no /etc/fstab entry
[10:27] <soundray> linukso, do you want to put it up on http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl ?
[10:27] <bllx> I changed the UID number fine in Hoary, just cant remember how :(
[10:27] <linukso> soundray: I will :)
[10:28] <pozdiy> where to switch off beeping signal on error (I hear it not only in vim but even in the shell prompt)?
[10:28] <soundray> bllx, mount -t hfsplus -o umask=0000 disk/partition /mntpoint/
[10:28] <bllx> its very useful for working with yr os X partiton and not hurting os X's privs either
[10:28] <pozdiy> where to switch off beeping signal on error (I hear it not only in vim but even in the shell prompt)?
[10:28] <soundray> bllx, I agree. I was surprised how good the hfsplus support is as well.
[10:28] <nutter426> hiya
[10:28] <nutter426> are there any lists of repositories?
[10:29] <nutter426> is it possible to mount an ISO image off a network share (windows host)?
[10:29] <bllx> sound: will that make the os X partition have no privs at all?
[10:29] <soundray> Connected my mac mini in firewire drive mode, worked like a charm.
[10:29] <linukso> soundray: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/5432
[10:30] <bllx> i worked in hoary for ages with UID set to my os X user's UID, everything worked great
[10:30] <pozdiy> where to switch off annoying beeps on error (I hear them in shell prompt, also in xpdf when reaching end of the document etc)?
[10:30] <gimmulf> "choose an offer" <-- is this correct english or should it be "a offer" ? :)
[10:30] <raziel`> ciao a tutti..qualcuno pu dirmi come si fa a compilare un prog c sotto ubuntu??
[10:30] <erUSUL> nutter426, yes
[10:30] <erUSUL> !tell nutter426 about sources
[10:30] <soundray> linukso, I wouldn't worry about the error messages, unless you run into other trouble as well.
[10:31] <chrisx1> gimmulf, thats correct
[10:31] <MikeG> nutter426, http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[10:31] <Seveas> !tell raziel about it
[10:31] <gimmulf> chrisx1:  ty
[10:31] <soundray> linukso, to speed up your gnome start, try turning off automounting in System-Administration-...
[10:31] <Seveas> !tell raziel`  about it
[10:31] <gimmulf> Is there any good page to check english gramma?
[10:31] <ubuntu> ver irc.cl
[10:31] <confrey> hi everybody
[10:32] <kbrooks> Can I remove old kernels?
[10:32] <soundray> linukso, sorry, System-Preferences-Removable Drives...
[10:32] <nutter426> thanks very much
[10:33] <nutter426> i'm running hoary at the moment, and looking to upgrade to breezy
[10:33] <nutter426> my laptop doesn't have a DVD drive, but I want the DVD image for my desktop, and i was wondering if i could use the DVD image on my laptop over the network?
[10:33] <erUSUL> kbrooks, yes
[10:33] <erUSUL> !tell nutter426 about breezy
[10:34] <soundray> linukso, was I making sense?
[10:34] <derek[] > Hi!
[10:34] <derek[] > http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5434
[10:34] <kalael> Hello
[10:35] <confrey> can naybody help me? I'm serching a driver for a pcmcia wifi, rtl8180
[10:35] <aquarius> I've got a machine which kernel panics on booting from the hoary cd, either install or live. The panic is the *first* thing that happens after hitting ENTER to boot: segmentation fault, unable to handle kernel paging request.
[10:35] <linukso> soundray: Thanks, I will try that, maybe it will help.
[10:36] <linux_newb> how would i go about uninstalling my nvidia drivers and reinstalling?
[10:36] <kalael> having some problems installing ubuntu.  Not sure if its freezing up or what but when its starting up the partitioner it seems to stop at 52% and just stays there.
[10:36] <erUSUL> nutter426, if you mount your win share under e.g. /mnt/win you could do after that mount /mnt/win/pathtoiso.iso /mnt/dvd -t iso9660 -o loop=/dev/loop0
[10:36] <hermanr> Time for https://bugzilla.ubuntu.org/ to get a new SSL certificate!
[10:37] <soundray> aquarius, maybe try memtest86?
[10:37] <_jason> derek[] , are you on breezy?
[10:37] <aquarius> soundray: as a boot option, or as the boot command?
[10:37] <unf> nas!
[10:37] <derek[] > _jason, no. hoary
[10:38] <soundray> aquarius, as the boot kernel. It runs a memory test (you may have guessed...)
[10:38] <jen_> Er.... I've tried almost every thing I've read, and I cant seem to get it to work. Can anyone give me a step-by-step of how to mount my second hard drive? It's NTFS.
[10:38] <aquarius> soundray: so at the "boot:" prompt I just type "memtest86"?
[10:38] <aquarius> soundray: couldn't find kernel image memtest86 (this is a hoary install cd)
[10:38] <soundray> aquarius, IIRC, yes. It's documented in the boot screens - F2, F3...
[10:38] <erUSUL> jen_, sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdxx /mnt
[10:38] <xored> iam getting that error compiling lejos : http://pastebin.com/450086 . Seems to be a gcc error. I treid cc=gcc-3.4 or 4 nothing change. Someone a clue ?
[10:39] <newpz> hi my hard drive keeps spinning down and up everytime i click on somehting... its like shutting off when im not clicking then powering back up when i click something.. is this a setting or something?
[10:39] <soundray> Chaps, is memtest86 on the live CD?
[10:39] <_jason> derek[] , if you upgrade to breezy, there are later versions of those packages available (I only checked libc6, you can verify at packages.ubuntu.com)
[10:39] <newpz> ps: noting is messages
[10:39] <derek[] > _jason, ok
[10:39] <nutter426> i know ubuntu comes with gaim, but has anyone managed to get yahoo messenger working?
[10:39] <HighHopes> Hello! Why I can't see any graphical characters (like mc borders) in aterm? .. :( I see ugly characters instead
[10:40] <derek[] > is it ok to install using the tar.gz ?
[10:40] <rambo3> ask in #afterstep
[10:40] <derek[] > nutter426, yes
[10:40] <HighHopes> rambo3, it happens with aterm .. rxvt... xterm .. any terminal emulator :(
[10:40] <erUSUL> xored, i can not understand german but it seems a problem in the program itself
[10:41] <HighHopes> Hello! Why I can't see any graphical characters (like mc borders) in aterm, xterm, rxvt? .. :( I see ugly characters instead
[10:41] <soundray> aquarius, do you want to boot again and check the install info screens? Maybe try the live CD?
[10:41] <kalael> having some problems installing ubuntu.  Not sure if its freezing up or what but when its starting up the partitioner it seems to stop at 52% and just stays there.
[10:41] <xored> erUSUL: no, its an rdy programm. So this programm runns in any case on other systems, lets say on all
[10:41] <kalael> What should I try?
[10:41] <Hericus> Has anyone run the grsec kernel?
[10:41] <aquarius> soundray: tried "memtest86" as the boot command on both the hoary live and install CDs
[10:41] <derek[] > nutter426, yes
[10:41] <derek[] > is it ok to install using the tar.gz ?
[10:42] <aquarius> soundray: same for both: "couldn't find kernel image memtest86"
[10:42] <lsuactiafner> Hericus : its only for a server.. really
[10:42] <lsuactiafner> Hericus : very restrictive
[10:42] <soundray> aquarius, please look at the boot info screens with keys F1 F2 a. s. o.
[10:42] <xored> erUSUL: thats the english version  : http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=270027
[10:42] <Hericus> lsuactiafner, yes, I realise that. I just intend to experiment.
[10:43] <soundray> derek[] , don't revert to a non-deb package to fix dependencies. You're asking for trouble...
[10:43] <lsuactiafner> Hericus : just read the documentation if you want to know more about it
[10:43] <jen_> erUSUL: for some reason its telling me: mount: according to mtab, /dev/hdb1 is mounted on /
[10:43] <aquarius> soundray: doesn't mention memtest or similar on any of the screens.
[10:43] <soundray> aquarius, okay, my mistake.
[10:43] <jen_> erUSUL: but, when I look at /, all I see is the default stuff - root, etc, and all that.
[10:43] <Hericus> lsuactiafner, yes, I'm doing that. I just wanted to find someone thats run it, to tell me whether its worth looking into.
[10:44] <soundray> aquarius, it's on some other Linux live CDs. Knoppix and Kanotix, I'm sure, and maybe DSL.
[10:44] <erUSUL> jen_, well are you sure you are refering to the correct partition?
[10:44] <aquarius> soundray: it's on breezy too, but the bloke doesn't have a breezy cd :(
[10:44] <soundray> aquarius, what type of machine is it?
[10:44] <jen_> erUSUL Yeah. Is there a way to unmount it? Then remount, specifying a new location?
[10:44] <xored> having a compile error, english version : http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=270027 . Switched compiler(gcc) to 4 and 3.4 nothing help. Someone has a clue ?
[10:44] <aquarius> soundray: x86.
[10:44] <lsuactiafner> Hericus : if you intend to run a server
[10:44] <soundray> aquarius, 286? :)
[10:44] <lsuactiafner> Hericus : doesnt hurt to learn more about linux
[10:45] <Hericus> lsuactiafner, no, certainly not. :)
[10:45] <lsuactiafner> good project
[10:45] <erUSUL> jen_, please post sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb in pastebin
[10:45] <aquarius> soundray: bit difficult to say 'cos the bloke with the machine is somewhere else and I'm on the phone to him ;) it's pretty up-to-date, built from components rather than bought as a unit.
[10:45] <Hericus> lsuactiafner, the thing is, I'm trying to do too much at once, I only have two hands.. :p
[10:45] <erUSUL> jen_, and the output of mount
[10:45] <jen_> erUSUL: Sure.. But... How do I actually use pastebin?
[10:46] <kalael> Can anyone help... I'm trying to install breezy but it seems to freeze during starting partitioner at 52%.  Is there anything I should do?
[10:46] <aquarius> soundray: SATA HDD, but it does the same thing with the HDD unplugged and on the livecd so that's not it, especially since it's the first thing that happens after booting the CDs
[10:46] <soundray> aquarius, hard to imagine a more difficult support situation. Maybe if you were doing CW Morse :)
[10:46] <aquarius> soundray: yeah, I know :)
[10:46] <erUSUL> !tell jen_ about pastebin
[10:46] <soundray> aquarius, any other OS's on the machine?
[10:47] <moquist_> I've got a friend whose fonts and icons and windows are "huge".  Any ideas on how she can fix this?
[10:47] <aquarius> soundray: no. He's got a different SATA HDD with Windows on it but that HDD is screwed: he went and bought a second (empty) HDD and that's what we're trying to install Ubuntu on. Ubuntu was on the machine before and working fine until the first HDD screwed up.
[10:47] <erUSUL> xored,  the error is in the program itself maybe recent versions of gcc are stricter with that type of syntax than previus ones
[10:48] <nutter426> i'm having trouble with synaptic, new installation, and i'm getting "child terminated with 1 status" which doesn't help me
[10:48] <trappist> moquist_: she could increase her screen resolution
[10:48] <ni1s> Any ETA on Gaim 2.0?
[10:48] <soundray> aquarius, that points to a hardware problem if you ask me... any chance of disabling SATA support in the BIOS?
[10:49] <korhalf> why is my server timing out?
[10:49] <korhalf> my apache server?
[10:49] <korhalf> http://24.150.164.116:80
[10:49] <aquarius> soundray: I suppose so, temporarily, although that would mean no HDD, and it was working before. Will try!
[10:49] <jen_> erUSUL: Okay, sent with the pastebin
[10:49] <hermanr> How do I suspend my laptop, from the default GNOME UI?
[10:49] <ubuntu> lol awesome i just got my cd as last
[10:49] <korhalf> it was working just yesterday
[10:49] <erUSUL> jen_, post here the url
[10:49] <lsuactiafner> Hericus : learn to compile a kernel yourself before attempting gsec
[10:50] <soundray> aquarius, if it doesn't fail then, you know it's SATA at fault. Then you can install a PATA HD.
[10:50] <ni1s> korhalf, cant reach it
[10:50] <jen_> erUSUL: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5436 and http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5435
[10:50] <ubuntu> so can any one tell me what ubuntu can offer
[10:50] <Hericus> lsuactiafner, that would be the mature thing to do. :)
[10:50] <tony_> Hi all! cantfind an answer cause maybe i dont know the question. Im looking for a way to add commands to be run at the start of Xfce.. Specifically the mounting of a win disk. I could make an icon to run but i would like it to run by itsef.
[10:50] <soundray> ubuntu, a great support IRC channel!
[10:51] <ubuntu> bye
[10:51] <tony_> soundray:yes!
[10:51] <_jason> heh taht was quick, hope he installs
[10:51] <soundray> Couldn't convince him.
[10:51] <erUSUL> jen_, sudo umount /dev/hdb1
[10:51] <ni1s> tony_, you want to have a harddrive mounted on boot?
[10:51] <trappist> tony_: put it in your /etc/fstab and it'll mount on boot
[10:52] <moquist_> trappist: good point; I had been assuming her screen resolution was set properly and that the fonts were set hugely or something.  maybe it *is* just the resolution.
[10:52] <rBo3Db> can anyone advise how do I start a localised programme, specifically gnucash, in a non-English locale environment as an English-language rather than localised version? something is wrong with encoding: the localised version is just illegible... thanks
[10:52] <tony_> nils:yes, i found the command to run. i just need it a script to put it in.. fstab? is that a script
[10:52] <jen_> erUSUL: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5437
[10:52] <trappist> tony_: no, /etc/fstab is a configuration file for filesystems to be automatically mounted
[10:52] <khalif> Hello!
[10:52] <levander> is it dovecot, or is it postfix that acts as my mail server that fetchmail delivers mail to?
[10:52] <_jason> tony_, search the wiki for: "mount windows"
[10:52] <tony_> trappist:thanx
[10:53] <egon_spengler> tony_, fstab==file system table abbreviation
[10:53] <hermanr> Is reportbug supposed to work out of the box on Ubuntu?  Or is it just there to appease longterm Debianists?
[10:53] <khalif> I'm using Kubuntu, but no one over in that channel is being helpful so here I am!
[10:53] <tony_> all:thanx
[10:53] <mwe> I thought fetchmail was supposed to fetch mail, not deliver it
[10:53] <soundray> rBo3Db, open a terminal, type env, look at the output and change all variables that point to your current locale to the C locale or US English. Set variables with export VAR=something.
[10:53] <dwhsix> hi all --- how can I make higher screen resolutions available?  System|Preferences|Screen Resolution only goes up to 1280x1024, I know the hw I have can go higher.
[10:53] <khalif> Does anyone have any experience3 with changing their icons?
[10:53] <jen_> erUSUL: Any clue? Hm...
[10:53] <kuraia> hi all
[10:53] <erUSUL> mwe, you are rirgt
[10:54] <levander> mwe: it fetches it, but then it puts it somewhere, where does it put it
[10:54] <levander> ?
[10:54] <soundray> rBo3Db, then call gnucash from that terminal.
[10:54] <nutter426> anyone installed firefox 1.5 on hoary?
[10:54] <kuraia> im trying to execute ethereal in ubuntu
[10:54] <kuraia> but i have some problems
[10:54] <existance> i installed gcj 4.0 from synaptic and yet when i compile it doesn't know what a char is.  Anyone know why?
[10:54] <kuraia> coud somebody help me?
[10:54] <soundray> rBo3Db, I think it's built with an old GTK library, which may be the reason for your troubles.
[10:54] <nutter426> i'm having trouble with synaptic, new installation, and i'm getting "child terminated with 1 status" which i don't understand
[10:54] <mwe> levander: you can customize that. look in /etc/fetchmailrc or ~/.fetchmailrc iirc
[10:54] <_jason> kuraia, describe the problems.  If someone knows, they will try
[10:55] <kuraia> libwiretap.so.0: cannot open shared object file
[10:55] <mwe> levander: I guess "man fetchmail" will tell you the default
[10:55] <bart_> lu
[10:55] <kuraia> when i execute ethereal
[10:55] <erUSUL> jen_, sudo /etc/init.d/evms stop
[10:55] <levander> mwe: it puts it on port 25 of your local machine I believe, what i'm asking is which server listens at port 25, dovecot or postfix?
[10:55] <erUSUL> jen_, and try to umount again
[10:55] <rBo3Db> soundray, thanks, yes old GTK...
[10:55] <_jason> kuraia, did you install ethereal through synaptic or some other package manager?
[10:55] <Gameplayer> hello
[10:55] <kuraia> no it was installed
[10:55] <korhalf> nils why cant you reach it?
[10:55] <khalif> The icons that I downloaded don't come bundled so that they can be installed using the icon manager. What folder would I need to manually place them in and....
[10:55] <kalael> Is there anyone who can help me... having install problems
[10:55] <kuraia> i have 5.10 version
[10:55] <soundray> Hi vegos, how's it going?
[10:55] <vegos> soundray?
[10:55] <vegos> haha
[10:56] <soundray> vegos, still on time warp?
[10:56] <kuraia> and ethereal was installed in ubuntu
[10:56] <vegos> i cant get to the file to fix it
[10:56] <vegos> so i cant even boot
[10:56] <Gameplayer> i need help with proftpd, can anybody help me ?
[10:56] <khalif> what would I need to do to get the desktop to actually use the new icons?
[10:56] <jen_> erUSUL: Still saying device is busy.
[10:56] <nutter426> kalael: explaing the problem
[10:56] <vegos> is there a way to access my linux files from my windows partition
[10:56] <soundray> vegos, cd /boot/grub <return>, then nano menu.lst
[10:57] <kuraia> ethereal is installed in ubuntu 5.10 by default, _jason
[10:57] <linux_newb> well i cant fix this crap i'm gonna reinstall:(
[10:57] <vegos> i cant get to the terminal
[10:57] <existance> i installed gcj 4.0 from synaptic and yet when i compile it doesn't know what a char is.  Anyone know why?
[10:57] <vegos> it hangs up on boot
[10:57] <kalael> nutter426:  when running the install everything seems to be fine until I get to starting partitioner... then it seems to stop at 52%.
[10:57] <soundray> vegos, okay, we need to do grub surgery then.
[10:57] <Agrajag> existance: did you install build-essential or just gcj?
[10:57] <mwe> levander: I'm pretty sure last I used fetchmail a few years ago it just put it somewhere in my homedir, after downoading the mail from my pop3 server
[10:57] <_jason> kuraia, what does "apt-cache policy ethereal | grep Installed" return?
[10:57] <soundray> vegos, are you close to the machine?
[10:58] <nutter426> not one i know how to fix
[10:58] <erUSUL> jen_, how have you mounted /dev/hdb1 in / (root) it is very weird. i'm afraid you wil need to reboot
[10:58] <vegos> im on my windows partition now
[10:58] <kalael> thanks anyways
[10:58] <soundray> vegos, okay, you will need to note down the steps then.
[10:58] <nutter426> kalael: tell everyone, but you could try booting a live CD and partitioning, if you have a live CD
[10:58] <vegos> ok
[10:58] <soundray> vegos, what partition is Ubuntu on?
[10:58] <levander> mwe: it sends it to your mail delivery agent, which may put it in your home directory
[10:58] <jen_> erUSUL: Rebooting, then will see what happens. be back soon.
[10:59] <phiqtion> nalioth: busy?
[10:59] <levander> mwe: i just figured out that the mail delivery agent by default on ubuntu is postfix
[10:59] <kuraia> it doesn't return nothing jason
[10:59] <kalael> currently the harddrive doesn't have an os
[10:59] <kalael> this will be the only thing running on the machine
[10:59] <kuraia> it doesn't return anything jason
[10:59] <vegos> i dont remember, i think hda1 or hda2
[10:59] <kalael> ubuntu that is
[10:59] <kuraia> i'm spanish speaker jason, sorry
[10:59] <erUSUL> mwe, fetcmail delivers the mail to the mta listening in pot 25 in the local machine
[10:59] <kuraia> :D
[10:59] <soundray> vegos, isn't windows on the first partition?
[10:59] <cyphase> anyone here ever tried TrueCrypt?
[10:59] <_jason> kuraia, are you sure you typed it correctly?
[10:59] <erUSUL> !enter
[10:59] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[11:00] <phiqtion> Can someone please explain me why isn't the terminal recognizing the CVS command? do i need to download something before issuing the CVS command? thanks!
[11:00] <mwe> erUSUL:, levander. ok I see
[11:00] <rafx> cyphase: yea, TC 4.1 just got released
[11:00] <kalael> but thanks for the suggest of the live cd I will try that
[11:00] <soundray> vegos, can you remember the exact kernel version that you installed?
[11:00] <vegos> if there is any clue
[11:00] <vegos> no
[11:00] <cyphase> rafx, i know
[11:00] <_jason> kuraia, what does it show without the grep: apt-cache policy ethereal
[11:00] <erUSUL> phiqtion, you have to install cvs
[11:00] <cyphase> rafx, would you recommend it?
[11:00] <mwe> haven't used that buggar for quite a while
[11:01] <HighHopes> Hello folks! Where do I set $LANG to be a permanent setting ? ... I wish I could have LANG=en_US
[11:01] <rafx> cyphase: on windows or ubuntu?
[11:01] <soundray> soundray, did you install i386 or amd64?
[11:01] <cyphase> ubuntu
[11:01] <cyphase> although..
[11:01] <cyphase> i know someone on windows who might need it
[11:01] <erUSUL> HighHopes, in your .bashrc or .bash_profile
[11:01] <cyphase> i'm mostly just interested in it
[11:01] <cyphase> i don't really need it
[11:01] <rafx> yea right
[11:01] <rafx> perv
[11:01] <HighHopes> erUSUL, and .. system-wide?
[11:01] <soundray> vegos, sorry, talking to myself there.  Did you install i386 or amd64
[11:01] <kuraia> it retunrs this _jason
[11:01] <kuraia> Instalados: 0.10.12-6
[11:01] <kuraia>   Candidato: 0.10.12-6
[11:01] <kuraia>   Tabla de versin:
[11:01] <kuraia>  *** 0.10.12-6 0
[11:01] <kuraia>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[11:02] <cyphase> lol rafx
[11:02] <rafx> :)
[11:02] <soundray> kuraia, don't do that please...
[11:02] <_jason> lol oh no wonder it's in spanish, in the future use pastebin for pastes
[11:02] <kuraia> why soundray?
[11:02] <cyphase> rafx, but would you recommend it?
[11:02] <adri> hi everybody! I'm looking for a programm of sharing files over the network peer to peer, does it exist??
[11:02] <soundray> kuraia, pastebin is for pasting.
[11:02] <vegos> i386
[11:02] <_jason> ubotu, tell kuraia about pastebin
[11:03] <mwe> adri: yes, there a several, depending on what exactly you need
[11:03] <rafx> cyphase: i haven't tried the linux version. still using 3.1a because i don't need fancy features like hidden volumes.  seems pretty stable
[11:03] <erUSUL> HighHopes, there is no system wide lang setting every user has hers own, you can make it default to anyones in /etc/skel
[11:03] <kuraia> ok soundray i didn't know paste bin
[11:03] <cyphase> rafx, ok, thanx
[11:03] <kuraia> :D
[11:03] <nutter426> anyone ever encountered the child 1 status error with synaptic?
[11:03] <adri> mwe> a programm like Bearshare (but bearshare isn't compatible with linux...)
[11:03] <erUSUL> adri, there are many
[11:04] <cyphase> adri, gtk-gnutella
[11:04] <cyphase> same network, protocol, etc
[11:04] <HighHopes> erUSUL, THANKS!
[11:04] <_jason> kuraia, I am not sure, but my ethereal version is: 0.10.12-2ubuntu3 .  Yours is different.  Would you consider removing your version and reinstalling to get the version I have?  Mine works fine.
[11:04] <adri> ok thank u cyphase... im going to test it
[11:04] <soundray> vegos, okay. When you boot your laptop, get it to show you the grub menu with Esc if necessary. Then hit C. You'll get the grub command line. Enter 'geometry' and find the first line that contains 'ext3'.
[11:04] <adri> good evening all
[11:04] <cyphase> adri, welcome. it's in the repo's
[11:05] <kuraia> ok jason
[11:05] <vegos> ok
[11:05] <kuraia> i 'll do it
[11:05] <navarone> nutter> idk for sure but maybe error results from trying to use synaptic when you are running apt-get in terminal...? just a guess
[11:05] <Mabus06> I have two dvd questions
[11:05] <cyphase> cool..
[11:05] <Mabus06> What's the easiest way to copy a video dvd with only a dvd r drive?
[11:05] <jgrieves> good website for cursor themes?
[11:05] <soundray> vegos, let's assume that line starts with (hd0,4). Then you type 'kernel (hd0,4)/boot/kernel-2.6', at which point you should hit the tab key.
[11:05] <cyphase> Ubuntu is specifically supported by TrueCrypt
[11:06] <erUSUL> navarone, that's why locking exists ;)
[11:06] <Mabus06> and also, what's the easiest way to get an .avi file onto a dvd that I can watch on a dvd player
[11:06] <jen_> erUSUL: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5438 - New results of mount
[11:06] <soundray> vegos, Tab will complete the kernel name, if the location (hd0,4) is correct. If so, hit return.
[11:06] <Necrocide> I'm converted!
[11:06] <Necrocide> Thanks Ubuntu! :P
[11:06] <Seveas> :)
[11:06] <Mabus06> anyone?
[11:07] <XxFREDdiexX> guy i need help
[11:07] <soundray> vegos, next step is similar: enter 'initrd (hd0,4)/boot/initrd.img-2.6', then Tab to complete.
[11:07] <Mabus06> I need to know 1) how to get a dvd video copied onto a blank dvd disc without using two drives
[11:07] <XxFREDdiexX> i installed amercias army how do i run the game now
[11:07] <soundray> vegos, if this has all worked, you can press return, then 'boot' return.
[11:07] <Hylve> Hello i'am a noob in Linux World , but i try to open a Ventrilo Server but this came up in log RROR: ServerCreateStream(): bind failed for interface '0.0.0.0', errno = 98.
[11:08] <aquarius> Mabus: rip with dvdbackup, then burn with growisofs.
[11:08] <Mabus06> ok thanks aquarius
[11:08] <soundray> vegos, leave out the 'quotes' each time.
[11:08] <Happuf> Hylve: cant get your ip?
[11:08] <Mabus06> aquarius, my second question is how to get a .avi file onto a dvd I can watch with a dvd player
[11:08] <erUSUL> jen_, sudo mkdir /mnt/win && sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /mnt/win
[11:08] <navarone> Mabus> I would think you could copy with one drive...ripper will rip and make image od dvd and then have you remove and put in balnk to write image to dvd-r...<?>
[11:08] <levander> does anybody else feel like the ubuntu community is getting overrun by newbies, and so you can't get any decently difficult questions answered?
[11:08] <zever> XxFREDdiexX, go to the directory armyops and execute the file armyops
[11:08] <vegos> ok
[11:08] <vegos> ill give it a shot
[11:08] <soundray> vegos, you should be booting into your system, where you should change nolapic to noapic in /boot/grub/menu.lst immediately.
[11:08] <mikerobi> how do i change my default kernel?
[11:08] <nutter426> i cant get into synaptic, get "Child terminated with 1 status" error
[11:08] <aquarius> Mabus: you have to transcode the avi file to mpeg-2. It's a big topic.
[11:09] <Mabus06> aquarius, can I pm you
[11:09] <Seveas> mikerobi, edit the default: line /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:09] <soundray> vegos, after that run update-grub and you should be back to square one :)
[11:09] <aquarius> Mabus: I can't help any more than I have
[11:09] <Nelo> Hello, is there a player that plays windows media playlists?
[11:09] <vegos> do you know why noapic is affecting my wireless
[11:09] <soundray> levander, difficult questions are difficult to answer, whether newbies are in the channel or not.
[11:09] <Hylve> hhmsg Happuf my ip is
[11:09] <Hylve> 81.226.203.117
[11:10] <Hylve> ^
[11:10] <Hylve> ^^*
[11:10] <XxFREDdiexX> do u want me to tell it to run the file zever
[11:10] <zever> yes
[11:10] <levander> soundray: no kidding, but the swamp of newbie questions i just think scares the more knowledgable people away, i think
[11:10] <rafx> rejoice!  xen 3.0 released!
[11:10] <erUSUL> jen_, have you done that?
[11:10] <nutter426> is there a special ubuntu noob channel for me to go join?
[11:11] <_jason> nutter426, you mean to chat?
[11:11] <Hylve> When i start i file in Linux ,how do i know if it's running ?
[11:11] <levander> nutter426: you're fine, it's not an individual problem
[11:11] <jen_> erUSUL: mount now shows that its mounted at /mnt/win, but using the file browser, I cant access it.
[11:11] <jen_> erUSUL: Says I don't have permission.
[11:11] <vegos> soundray, do you know why noapic is effecting my wireless?
[11:11] <navarone> nutter>are you using breezy?
[11:11] <levander> nutter426: and besides, according to my questions, you're in the right place
[11:11] <soundray> levander, that's possible, but I don't believe it's a serious loss.
[11:11] <ladybird> lol
[11:11] <ladybird> hi all
[11:11] <Hylve> Hello i'am a noob in Linux World , but i try to open a Ventrilo Server but this came up in log RROR: ServerCreateStream(): bind failed for interface '0.0.0.0', errno = 98.
[11:12] <soundray> vegos, I've no idea.
[11:12] <vegos> ok
[11:12] <mikerobi> Seveas: thanks
[11:12] <levander> soundray: it's not a serious loss to have knowledgable people in here?
[11:12] <Mabus06> aquarius, in dvdbackup you're supposed to type "dvdbackup -i device", but I don't know what to put for device
[11:12] <aquarius> Mabus06, /dev/dvd. You'll want -M as well
[11:12] <erUSUL> jen_, it is normal do not worry. sudo nano /etc/fstab and add at the end of the file this line /dev/hda1       /mnt/hda1       ntfs    ro,user,umask=0222,noauto       0       0
[11:12] <soundray> levander, it's not a serious loss to not have people who are bothered/scared by newbie questions.
[11:13] <navarone> nutter> according to what i am reading the errro you got is because you gave incorrect password
[11:13] <nutter426> does anyone know of any specific drivers for synaptics touch pads on laptops? the standard mouse driver works, but a proper one would be nice
[11:13] <levander> levander: the problem isn't newbie questions, the problem is the swamp
[11:13] <sorush20> does it make any difference if I disable the cd repository or not?
[11:13] <erUSUL> jen_, /dev/hdb1 not hda1 sorry
[11:13] <mwe> ro is redundant with that umask
[11:13] <Necrocide> Is there any command to stay updated with packages or something similair? I'm still new to linux, so be over with me. :)
[11:13] <FARIS2> hi all, just wanted to know if i would be facing problems with drivers that will not be supported in ubuntu 64 bit ?
[11:13] <Mabus06> aquarius, that does not work
[11:13] <KasperTech2> Please have a look at my problem. It's described nicely at: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=546966#post546966
[11:13] <levander> sorush20: if you disable the cd repository, you won't be able to get to repositories on the cd, if you've replaced them with repositories online, you're fine
[11:14] <_jason> sorush20, you can disable it, all the packages are in the online repos I believe
[11:14] <nutter426> navarone: i have the same password for my user and for root, and i've logged in successfully with that password to both users, so i dont know how it can be wrong
[11:14] <erUSUL> mwe, ???
[11:14] <Comrade_Vladimir> any one know if i can get a netscape browser for ubuntu
[11:14] <soundray> levander, well, to an extent it is. But we're adding to it right now, off-topic...
[11:14] <Comrade_Vladimir> thats free anyways
[11:14] <soundray> Comrade_Vladimir, errgh, netscape, why would you want that?
[11:14] <_jason> Comrade_Vladimir, you can get mozilla, have you tried it?
[11:14] <Seveas> Comrade_Vladimir, mozilla-browser
[11:15] <Comrade_Vladimir> soundray i dont like it either but i need it to use yahoo music
[11:15] <Entity> ppc users, http://bcm-specs.sipsolutions.net/announcement.pdf :)
[11:15] <Comrade_Vladimir> i have mozilla firefix
[11:15] <Comrade_Vladimir> fox*
[11:15] <mwe> erUSUL: umask=0222 masks out the write permission bits, so ro is not really needed
[11:15] <_jason> Comrade_Vladimir, mozilla browser is different
[11:15] <navarone> nutter>if you are using numpad make sure numlock is on...<?> I dunno what else as of yet
[11:15] <FARIS2> fix :> LOL
[11:15] <Comrade_Vladimir> i no how can i get netscape
[11:16] <jen_> erUSUL: Added the line and saved it, but still denying me because I dont have permission
[11:16] <Mabus06> anyone know how I can convert an .avi file to an mpeg-2 I can burn to a dvd?
[11:16] <FARIS2> hi all, i would like to ask if im gonna face problems with drivers with ubuntu 64-bit, is it gonna be like windows where drivers arent supported by the manufacturer or it doesnt matter
[11:16] <erUSUL> jen_, sudo umount /mnt/win
[11:16] <HighHopes> Folks.. I have serious problems with UNICODE and xterm's... what is the recommended setting for a system to be capable to "draw" well extended ASCII graphical symbols in any terminal emulator? .. because I see ugly characters instead of boxes, lines, etc...
[11:16] <nutter426> navarone: i'm on a laptop, so no numberpad, but its a more valid point, the numlock light is off, but i've toggled num lock on and off and still no help
[11:16] <Comrade_Vladimir> so there is no netscape for windows
[11:17] <vegos> soundray, geometry didnt work
[11:17] <erUSUL> jen_, mount /mnt/win (without sudo)
[11:17] <Mabus06> anyone know how I can convert an .avi file to an mpeg-2 I can burn to a dvd? (please pm me with instructions or link to a doc or a program name, I will brb and might miss the message if you type it here)
[11:17] <soundray> vegos, did you get to the grub command line?
[11:17] <adri> hi again everybody... i just install gnutella.. but it tells me that i'm looking like firewalled and so i couldn't receinve any result.. and when i try to search anything i dont receive anything... can u help me please?
[11:17] <jen_> erUSUL: mount: can't find /mnt/win in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[11:17] <vegos> yes
[11:18] <erUSUL> jen_, sudo umount /dev/hdb1
[11:18] <beruic> Can anyone help me finding a nice little app that shows me the state of num lock, caps lock and scroll lock? (Don't have any lamps on my keyboard)
[11:18] <jen_> erUSUL: umount: /dev/hdb1: not mounted
[11:19] <khalif> I got a question: When you use "apt-get" from the Terminal is it grabing the program from the hard drive or from the internet?
[11:19] <soundray> vegos, maybe try geometry (hd0)
[11:19] <mwe> jen_: that's because you put /mnt/hda1 in fstab, not /mnt/win
[11:19] <erUSUL> jen_, have you changed /dev/hda1 for /dev/hdb1 in the line i show you??
[11:19] <vegos> ok
[11:19] <vegos> brb
[11:19] <beruic> khalif: both
[11:19] <jen_> erUSUL: Pretty sure I did, double checking
[11:19] <FARIS2> its a program called thumblock, no joking :)
[11:19] <KasperTech2> khalif: Depends.
[11:19] <bllx> how risky is it really to change your UID number by editing /etc/passwd ?  I really need to change it somehow
[11:20] <erUSUL> jen_, mwe is right my bad edit the fstab again and change things to much your system
[11:20] <khalif> Ok, if my laptop doesn't have an internet connection, how can I install programs that I've downloaded using another computer?
[11:20] <adri> hi again everybody... i just install gnutella.. but it tells me that i'm looking like firewalled and so i couldn't receinve any result.. and when i try to search anything i dont receive anything... can u help me please?
[11:20] <Agrajag> bllx: you will no longer own any of your files, you'll have to chown them
[11:20] <bllx> yikes really
[11:20] <Agrajag> bllx: before you do something like that, you should probably unlock the root account
[11:20] <phiqtion> where exactly in menu.lst do i add splashimage=(hd1,0)/boot/grub/UbuntuEL.xpm.gz to add a new splash?
[11:20] <Agrajag> so you can log into it if you screw something up
[11:21] <erUSUL> adri, are you firewalled?? ;)
[11:21] <rBo3Db> soundray: sorry to bother... ref. gnucash: you said, "change all variables that point to your current locale to the C locale or US English"... it works, will I have to roll back to the earlier locale after I'm thru with gnucash?.. or is locale changed only for the terminal window where it was changed, and it's enough to close that window?...
[11:21] <sorush20> _jason: levander thanks could guys take a look at the repository list for me and see if they are ok? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5439
[11:21] <FARIS2> khalif: umm use a cd writer or share on lan ?
[11:21] <jen_> erUSUL: Ahh, I see. When I pasted in the line, I only noticed the hda1 @ one of the spots, not on both. Its changed to be /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb1
[11:21] <bllx> Apra: maybe if i enable root account I can change the UID I need to change, from the GUI ?
[11:21] <Necrocide> How the heck do I place a trashcan on the desktop? :/
[11:21] <beruic> Can anyone help me finding a nice little app that shows me the state of num lock, caps lock and scroll lock? (Don't have any lamps on my keyboard)
[11:21] <nutter426> hmmm, further to my password problem with synaptic, i managed to log into a terminal (tty2) but still cant get into package manager
[11:21] <soundray> rBo3Db, put your variable exports in a script, add a gnucash line, and always call that script.
[11:21] <khalif> and then using apt-get will grab the application from my cd or my usb drive?
[11:22] <adri> erUSUL, i dont know... i ve only install linux ubuntu but maybe there's a firewall integrated in linux?? but i havent got installed any firewall...
[11:22] <Agrajag> bllx: from the GUI? I don't know, why don't you just change it in /etc/passwd?
[11:22] <erUSUL> jen_, no in the second colum it should say /mnt/win (the dir you created in /mnt)
[11:22] <rBo3Db> soundray: i too thought of that already... no need to roll back?
[11:22] <bllx> o ok
[11:22] <czr> adri, the firewall is integrated part of linux kernel, you just have to tell it what it should do
[11:22] <Hylve> Hello i'am a noob in Linux World , but i try to open a Ventrilo Server but this came up in log RROR: ServerCreateStream(): bind failed for interface '0.0.0.0', errno = 98.
[11:22] <jen_> erUSUL: Ah, Gotcha. Changing now.
[11:22] <bllx> i just thought maybe that way it'd keep my files as mine even after UID no. change
[11:22] <Hylve> ??
[11:22] <erUSUL> adri, have you gat a router?
[11:22] <architx> adri, install firestarter to administer the firewall
[11:22] <soundray> rBo3Db, you can just close the terminal, as you said.
[11:22] <erUSUL> got*
[11:22] <phiqtion> where exactly in menu.lst do i add splashimage=(hd1,0)/boot/grub/UbuntuEL.xpm.gz to add a new splash?
[11:22] <Agrajag> bllx: then you'll nee to chown everything you used to own to belong to you again, read the chown manpage
[11:22] <FARIS2> khalif ask the people how to install something using your usb driver or cd cause im a noob too lol
[11:22] <czr> adri, there are graphical frontends for this but they all use iptables-tool (command line)
[11:22] <adri> erUSUL yes i ve a router...
[11:23] <beruic> Can anyone help me finding a nice little app that shows me the state of num lock, caps lock and scroll lock?
[11:23] <Chris_in_the_uk> anyone got any ideas how to set up a command line bittorrent client?
[11:23] <rBo3Db> soundray: thanks
[11:23] <khalif> thanks FARIS2
[11:23] <czr> phiqtion, before the title-lines
[11:23] <_jason> sorush20, I'm not sure about having the hoary extras repo while you are running breezy, you may want to ask the channel to take a look.  The rest looks fine
[11:23] <FARIS2> khalif :)
[11:23] <holycow> has anyone here setup automatic updates to transparently udpate the system without prompting the user?
[11:23] <czr> phiqtion, assuming your new image is on first partition of hdb
[11:23] <adri> architx, i m going to install it and to try... thank U
[11:23] <bllx> yeh Agra looks like Ill have to chown my files whatever I do, after changing UID
[11:23] <phiqtion> czr, where are the title lines
[11:23] <erUSUL> adri, you have to open the ports and enable nat in the router
[11:23] <Oniano> could somebody help me with some xorg issues?
[11:23] <bllx> thanks
[11:23] <czr> phiqtion, lines starting with 'title'
[11:23] <Oniano> i have an i915 chipset laptop
[11:24] <soundray> bllx, I haven't read all the advice you got just now, but I'd suggest you activate the root account so you have a fallback.
[11:24] <czr> phiqtion, you have them I trust?
[11:24] <Taa5i_> Has anyone had any success with an HP NetRaid scsi controller in ubuntu?  It seems to fail with iop0 could not activate controller.  In Gentoo it boots shiny out of the box.
[11:24] <comradevik>  i wanted to try out kde so i installed it in synaptic and now i can't log in into either gnome or kde
[11:24] <Oniano> http://www.ynyr.com/Xorg.0.log
[11:24] <erUSUL> adri, you do not have a firewall is the router...
[11:24] <bllx> Ive only got about 3 files though :)
[11:24] <beruic> I really need an app that shows me the state of num lock, caps lock and scroll lock?
[11:24] <bllx> ok soundray
[11:24] <Taa5i_> beruic: Check your keyboard lights.
[11:24] <adri> erUSUL, i dont think the problem come from the router because my friends connected on the network with me dont meet any problem with share programm...
[11:24] <FARIS2> will i have any problems installing drivers using 64 bit ubuntu ? i meant like facing drivers problems like 64-bit windows
[11:24] <phiqtion> czr, you mean the ones that say ubuntu test, ubuntu kernel, memtest ?
[11:24] <bllx> should I read up how to activate root account?
[11:24] <czr> FARIS2, with closed binary drivers yes
[11:24] <beruic> Taa5i_: Dont have any...
[11:24] <bllx> yes i will
[11:25] <soundray> bllx, just enter sudo passwd and set a root password.
[11:25] <czr> FARIS2, although I hear nv drivers work properly nowadays, otherwise no problems
[11:25] <czr> phiqtion, yes
[11:25] <bllx> o is that all...ok
[11:25] <Necrocide> How the heck do I place a trashcan on the desktop? :/
[11:25] <erUSUL> adri, do they use gnutella network?
[11:25] <jen_> erUSUL: Okay. fstab now contains      /dev/hdb1       /mnt/win    instead of hdb1 in both.
[11:25] <Taa5i_> beruic: Then I guess you can't check their status eh.
[11:25] <czr> Necrocide, infinite storage for all your pr0n ;-)
[11:25] <khalif> What folder do applications usually get installed in?
[11:25] <soundray> Necrocide, is that a computer question :)
[11:25] <phiqtion> czr, gparted indicated me ubuntu is on hda6. so its hd6,0 ?
[11:25] <ben> okay I have wireless half working. my wireless connects, and I can get to my router settings but I can't get online. It looks like dhcp isn't working because I don't get an ip
[11:25] <czr> phiqtion, did you create a separate /boot-partition?
[11:25] <erUSUL> jen_, fine do sudo umount /mnt/win
[11:25] <soundray> Necrocide, I think it's in the Nautilus settings somewhere.
[11:26] <Agrajag> bllx: if you want to disable it again when you're done, you can just run sudo passwd -l root
[11:26] <robotgeek> ben: try sudo dhclient <wireless_interface>
[11:26] <Necrocide> Hey! :P I'm new to linux, I'm trying to figure out the basics :P
[11:26] <czr> phiqtion, hda = hd0
[11:26] <bllx> ok
[11:26] <beruic> Taa5i_: In windows i can. Logitech made an app for that
[11:26] <Trashcan> ben: if you can connect to your router and get a page from it then you have an ip
[11:26] <czr> phiqtion, hd0,0 = first partition on hd0 (hda1)
[11:26] <adri> erUSUL, no they dont use it and they dont use linux :(
[11:26] <Trashcan> you might not be getting dns from it though
[11:26] <jen_> erUSUL: umount: /mnt/win: not mounted
[11:26] <FARIS2> czr, yeah nv i guess it would work.. but i meant like sound drivers and stuff like that because on 64-bit windows my sound drivers arent supported so i threw it away lol, so if i install ubuntu 64 i dont think it would work the same way as windows for drivers..
[11:26] <Necrocide> Aaaha :/
[11:26] <ben> trashcan: then why can I get to nothing but my router settings?
[11:26] <robotgeek> Necrocide: System -> Help -> Starter Guide
[11:26] <czr> FARIS2, 64-bit is no-brainer in linux
[11:26] <Necrocide> merci
[11:26] <czr> FARIS2, shouldn't have problems at all
[11:26] <phiqtion> czr, so it's hd0,6 ?
 you might not be getting dns from it though
[11:27] <czr> phiqtion, that would be hda7 ;-)
[11:27] <ben> oh sorry, channels moving fast didn't see it
[11:27] <sorush20> could you guys take a look at this and find out if I need the horey extra repositories? thanks http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5439
[11:27] <czr> phiqtion, linux numbers partitions starting with 1. grub starting with 0 :-)
[11:27] <Taa5i_> beruic: I suggest looking into a new keyboard.
[11:27] <FARIS2> czr, guess so.. so installing drivers on 64 bit would be the same as any other distro right ?
[11:27] <mwe> czr: except with propraity sofwary like drivers and flash player, like you already mentioned
[11:27] <vegos> soundray, that command worked but there were no ext3 listed
[11:27] <czr> FARIS2, yeah. linux has worked on 64-bit archs for ages now
[11:27] <beruic> Taa5i_: I'll miss my wireless :,(
[11:27] <erUSUL> adri, i mean the network. each network has its ports that need to be open. if they use another p2p net they need another ports open no the ones that uses gnutella
[11:27] <vegos> soundray, there was just a ext2fs or something
[11:27] <adri> i dont arrive to use firestarter... ive download and install it with synaptic and now, i dont know how use it??
[11:28] <Taa5i_> beruic: Should be lights on the wireless hub then.
[11:28] <phiqtion> czr, so if gparted says ubuntu is on hda6 i should pinpoint grub it's on hd7 ?
[11:28] <czr> mwe, flash is not a driver. mainly I mentioned binary drivers because they're evil. nv might work, but others I don't know, neither do I care
[11:28] <bllx> `thanks all
[11:28] <robotgeek> sorush20: you are on breezy? the hoary-extras won't work on breezy
[11:28] <beruic> Taa5i_: No
[11:28] <czr> phiqtion, no. hda = hd0
[11:28] <adri> erUSUL, so u think that the problem come from the router...
[11:28] <KasperTech2> Anyone? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=546966#post546966
[11:28] <soundray> vegos, that's slightly surprising, but that'll be the one then...
[11:28] <czr> phiqtion, hda6 = hd0,5
[11:28] <FARIS2> czr thanks for the help.. great *claps* for the work
[11:28] <phiqtion> czr, im lost
[11:28] <architx> you go to system tools
[11:28] <architx> its there
[11:28] <beruic> Taa5i_: Have never seen that anywhere too
[11:28] <soundray> vegos, was it (hd0,4) by any chance?
[11:28] <czr> phiqtion, hda6 = sixth partition of first IDE device
[11:28] <erUSUL> adri, i can not know but ubuntu does not close any port by default so...
[11:28] <czr> phiqtion, hd0,5 is the same for grub
[11:29] <mwe> czr: I know flash is not a driver. I just mentioned it as another problem for 64bit linux
[11:29] <vegos> when i did the command for it it said that filenot found
[11:29] <czr> mwe, not a problem for me ;-)
[11:29] <adri> erUSUL, give me another name of peer to peer program please... and ill test it to see if the problem is really the router
[11:29] <czr> I don't use flash
[11:29] <phiqtion> czr. ok i will try, thank you
[11:29] <Mabus06> can someone please tell me how to convert a .avi file into a mpeg2 that i can burn onto a dvd
[11:29] <sorush20> robotgeek: thanks. also who do I have to talk to to get a package added to repository?
[11:29] <erUSUL> adri, amule
[11:29] <vegos> soundray, when i entered geometry (hd0) it listed 3 partitions (0,1,2)
[11:29] <erUSUL> adri, xmule
[11:29] <adri> erUSUL, thank u
[11:29] <comradevik> i installed both gnome and kde and now neither of them load
[11:29] <erUSUL> adri, both for edonkey network
[11:29] <soundray> vegos, okay, which one was ext2fs?
[11:29] <robotgeek> sorush20: the breezy backports in the forum?
[11:30] <nutter426> grrrr, i cant do any admin, and i'm typing the right password
[11:30] <vegos> soundray, 2
[11:30] <robotgeek> KasperTech2: do you have gcc3.4 installed?
[11:30] <ben> dhclient did nothing
[11:30] <robotgeek> ben: oh well
[11:30] <ben> actually it did, it made me not even be able to go to my router settings
[11:30] <soundray> vegos, well, you know the deal then... kernel (hd0,2)/boot/kernel-2.6 TAB, return, initrd (hd0,2)... and so on as before.
[11:31] <KasperTech2> robotgeek: I've run "sudo apt-get install build-essentials" and "sudo apt-get install gcc" numerous times.
[11:31] <jen_> erUSUL: Mount not showing hdb1. So.. I need to try:  sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /mnt/win    ... right?
[11:31] <robotgeek> KasperTech2: sudo apt-get install gcc3.4 ?
[11:31] <beruic> Anyone who knows an app that shows the state of Num/Scroll/Caps-lock?
[11:31] <Kimppa> Hi. I'm trying to mount and .iso file, but I get an erro saying wron fs type. I use -t iso9660
[11:31] <erUSUL> jen_, no do just mount /mnt/win
[11:31] <robotgeek> ben: what wireless card do you have?
[11:31] <Kimppa> any ideas what other types I could try?
[11:31] <vegos> soundray, i did that and it said no file found
[11:32] <erUSUL> jen_, that's the point of the fstab line save typing ;)
[11:32] <jen_> erUSUL: ahhh.. I see now! *huggles!* Thanks!
[11:32] <GigaClon> I get this when trying to run widelands
[11:32] <GigaClon> ./widelands: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.6' not found (required by ./widelands)
[11:32] <KasperTech2> robotgeek: Well the gcc-version.h doesn't lock down to gcc3.4, it reads the installed gcc version and if it's below 3.0 it breakes (I've opened the file)
[11:32] <nutter426> lol, if i run it as root, it works
[11:32] <soundray> vegos, do you have a live or install CD?
[11:32] <architx> erUSUL,  ubuntu does not open any port by default
[11:32] <vegos> yes
[11:32] <architx> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/firewall
[11:32] <robotgeek> KasperTech2: did you make sure it compiled with gcc3.4?
[11:32] <erUSUL> jen_, if you want the partition mounted at boot time erase the noauto option in fstab
[11:33] <beruic> Anyone who knows an app that shows the state of Num/Scroll/Caps-lock?
[11:33] <erUSUL> architx, neither closes them
[11:33] <kuraia> has anybody executed ethereal in ubuntu 5.10?
[11:33] <architx> true but if you have to open a port for some p2p
[11:33] <navarone> hmmm.I think I'm making the move to Opera till FF 1.5 gets to repos...it's pretty good so far.
[11:33] <soundray> vegos, try booting that and edit boot/grub/menu.lst. You will have to find the kernel lines and remove nolapic from each one in addition to the kopt line.
[11:33] <architx> default will not do
[11:33] <KasperTech2> robotgeek: No... how do I do that?
[11:33] <hedonick> kuraia: yep, no problems here (though I don't use sudo, have an root account)
[11:33] <robotgeek> KasperTech2: as in export CC = /usr/bin/gcc3.4 ?
[11:33] <erUSUL> architx, yes it will do
[11:33] <ben> robotgeek: intel pro wireless lan?
[11:34] <soundray> vegos, when done, reboot and run update-grub again.
[11:34] <robotgeek> KasperTech2: that might be it, tho i am speculating here :)
[11:34] <nutter426> why does synaptic need to download 188MB for 59MB of changes?
[11:34] <KasperTech2> robotgeek: What :o?
[11:34] <jen_> erUSUL: Gotcha. Er... Now... Next question... And I'm sure this'll be rather easy..... Missing plugin for mp3 or does totem not support? [one more question after that, too] 
[11:34] <architx> if you install some sorta listening app it will just forward it to outside
[11:34] <architx> ?
[11:34] <vegos> kernel lines?
[11:34] <The_Isle_of_Mark> kuraia, are you having a problem with it?
[11:34] <hedonick> kuraia: just ran it again, worked like a charm
[11:34] <GigaClon> how do I fix this problem?./widelands: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.6' not found (required by ./widelands)
[11:34] <beruic> Anyone who knows an app that shows the state of Num/Scroll/Caps-lock?
[11:34] <Mabus06> can anyone help me burn a dvd from a .avi file
[11:34] <erUSUL> !tell jen_ about mp3
[11:34] <trappist> beruic: gkrellm leds plugin
[11:35] <erUSUL> jen_, read what ubotu told you
[11:35] <sorush20> robotgeek: is there a breezy backport repository
[11:35] <Millenniumgroup> hi..how do I know which eth1 is my network card? I got 2 NIC's.. but I don't know which one of them is eth0 and eth1?
[11:35] <beruic> trappist: explain
[11:35] <soundray> vegos, in boot/grub/menu.lst, there is at least one line starting with "kernel", which contains "nolapic". That you need to change.
[11:35] <beruic> trappist: I don't have any LED's on my keyboard...
[11:35] <kuraia> yes i have a problem with it The_Isle_of_Mark
[11:35] <trappist> beruic: well, where do you want to show it
[11:35] <The_Isle_of_Mark> kuraia, what is the problem?
[11:36] <beruic> trappist: On screen
[11:36] <robotgeek> KasperTech2: before compiling the drivers, export CC = /usr/bin/gcc-3.4
[11:36] <adri> erUSUL, xMule doesn't work too... but here is the message of nutella: "You appear to be firewalled, both UDP-wise and TCP-wise" can u tell me more?
[11:36] <beruic> trappist: tray  or txt
[11:36] <robotgeek> KasperTech2: before that, install gcc-3.4 tho
[11:36] <trappist> beruic: what window manager?
[11:36] <beruic> Gnome
[11:36] <beruic> trappist: Gnome
[11:36] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell sorush20 about backports
[11:36] <kuraia> The_Isle_of_Mark it doesn't find libwiretap.so.0
[11:36] <navarone> adri> I think...at lerast in gtk-gntuella...there is a n option to use pseudo udp mode...that passes firewall I believe
[11:37] <KasperTech2> robotgeek: Okay, install gcc-3.4, roger. What do you mean by "export CC = ..." ?
[11:37] <trappist> oh.  I know there's a kde tray app for it but I dunno about gnome.  the gkrellm plugin shows it in... gkrellm
[11:37] <The_Isle_of_Mark> kuraia, how did you install it?
[11:37] <beruic> trappist: I'll try looking for that
[11:37] <navarone> adri> never used xmule tho
[11:37] <erUSUL> adri, tcp and udp are two inet protocols your router has a firewall that does not let pass packets (both udp and tcp) to your computer from outside. You need to enable nat and open the apropiate ports in the router
[11:38] <robotgeek> KasperTech2: the kernel i think has been compiled with gcc-3.4, if i am right. it might introduce incompatilitiies if compiled with gcc-4.0, so yo uare enusring that it compiles with gcc-3.4 by typing that string
[11:38] <mwe> Millenniumgroup: maybe dmesg|grep -i eth will help you
[11:38] <kuraia> The_Isle_of_Mark, it's installed by default in ubuntu 5.10
[11:38] <erUSUL> adri, does p2p work on windows? becouse if it does work maybe the problem is not the router. The router should affect both linux and windows
[11:38] <The_Isle_of_Mark> kuraia, no it isnt
[11:38] <ben> I got it. I had to disable my ethernet before wireless would work
[11:38] <KasperTech2> robotgeek: Right into bash :|?
[11:38] <robotgeek> KasperTech2: yes
[11:39] <robotgeek> ben: hmm, awesome!
[11:39] <The_Isle_of_Mark> kuraia, make sure you have ethereal-common installed too
[11:39] <kuraia> The_Isle_of_Mark yes it
[11:39] <adri> erUSUL, yes it works without any problem.. it's what i dont understand...
[11:39] <Millenniumgroup> mwe, cheers m8 :9
[11:39] <Millenniumgroup> mwe, cheers m8 :)
[11:39] <kuraia> ok
[11:39] <KasperTech2> Okay, first: "sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4" then: "export CC = /usr/lib/gcc-3.4" ?
[11:39] <Chris_in_the_uk> hey, can anyone give me a hand setting up a command line torrent client?
[11:39] <KasperTech2> Right, robotgeek
[11:39] <trappist> Chris_in_the_uk: btdownloadcurses http://server.com/file.torrent
[11:40] <The_Isle_of_Mark> kuraia, it is not installed by default in breezy
[11:40] <Chris_in_the_uk> cheers
[11:40] <erUSUL> adri, do 'sudo iptables -L'
[11:40] <eobanb> Chris_in_the_uk, might like http://transmission.m0k.org/
[11:40] <The_Isle_of_Mark> kuraia, there are a few files associated with it such as icons, but the app is not installed by default
[11:41] <erUSUL> Chris_in_the_uk, it should not need any set up just btdownloadcurses file.torrent
[11:41] <adri> erUSUL, i did it
[11:41] <erUSUL> adri, if need to use pastebin
[11:41] <khalif> Excuse me, but what would I need to do to have home and the trashcan appear on my desktop?
[11:42] <erUSUL> adri, does it show any output?
[11:42] <adri> erUSUL, sorry, i dont understand?
[11:42] <Trashcan> Places->right click Home->Add to desktop
[11:42] <erUSUL> !pastebin
[11:42] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[11:42] <kuraia> The_Isle_of_Mark i have typed this whereis ethereal
[11:42] <Chris_in_the_uk> trappist: what if the torrent file is local?
[11:42] <Kimppa> Hi. I'm trying to mount and .iso file, but I get an erro saying wron fs type. I use -t iso9660. Any ideas?
[11:42] <The_Isle_of_Mark> khalif you have to enable it on some systems, application >> system tools>> configuration
[11:42] <Alex> Chris_in_the_uk: /local/path/to/torrent.torrent
[11:42] <trappist> Chris_in_the_uk: btdownloadcurses /path/to/file.torrent
[11:42] <kuraia> The_Isle_of_Mark, and i have gotten /usr/bin/ethereal...
[11:43] <adri> erUSUL, Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source
[11:43] <Alex> Kimppa: definatly 9660?
[11:43] <Alex> Kimppa: Check it with 'file'
[11:43] <khalif> Is places a folder?
[11:43] <erUSUL> adri, only this line?
[11:43] <Chris_in_the_uk> trappist: if i close my ssh session, will the torrent carry on downloading?
[11:43] <Alex> !screen
[11:43] <ubotu> I guess screen is a terminal multiplexer http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen AND http://www.macworld.com/weblogs/macgems/
[11:43] <erUSUL> khalif, in the top panel
[11:43] <trappist> Chris_in_the_uk: no... run it in a screen
[11:43] <kuraia> The_Isle_of_Mark, i have typed this also apt-cache policy ethereal | grep Instalados
[11:44] <Kimppa> Alex: file says "data"
[11:44] <Alex> Chris_in_the_uk: See ubotu's link.
[11:44] <Alex> Kimppa: $ file ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso
[11:44] <Alex> ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso: ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data 'Ubuntu 5.10 i386               ' (bootable)
[11:44] <adri> erUSUL, yes only this line... there are 2 other lines about input and forward
[11:44] <Alex> :)
[11:44] <trappist> Chris_in_the_uk: screen -S bt... btdownloadcurses file.torrent... ctrl-a d... screen -x to reattach
[11:44] <khalif> I don't have anything on my Konquer panel that says places...
[11:44] <The_Isle_of_Mark> kuraia, well, however it got there, I would do a refresh on it from apt-get or synaptic
[11:44] <Trashcan> oh
[11:44] <kuraia>  The_Isle_of_Mark, and it returns this   Instalados: 0.10.12-6
[11:44] <Trashcan> konquerer, well nvm then
[11:45] <Kimppa> $ file HarryPotter.iso
[11:45] <Kimppa> HarryPotter.iso: data
[11:45] <Kimppa> that's it
[11:45] <khalif> I don't think that I have nvm
[11:45] <Alex> Kimppa: If it's a dvd, you can't mount it, probably.
[11:45] <soundray> khalif, Places is a Gnome thing. Don'tthink it's in KDE.
[11:45] <khalif> oh that would explain it... :)
[11:45] <Kimppa> I've mounted tons of dvd's before, this is the first one I'm having problems with
[11:45] <Alex> Kimppa: Ah. Darn.
[11:46] <QMario> Is there any FTP Server software that I can obtain that is available for Linux/Ubuntu?
[11:46] <trappist> QMario: dozens of them
[11:46] <greatjones> hello, i am trying to install java and i am unsure how to do it. it says to type "su" into the console and then enter the root password, but i do not know what the root password is. i tried my personal account password, but that did not work. any suggestions? thank you.
[11:46] <Moo> is SFTP mounting possible/how?
[11:46] <trappist> !tell greatjones about sudo
[11:46] <The_Isle_of_Mark> kuraia, that isnt the ubuntu install then, I know for sure it does not install by default. I am not here to argue, so if you want help, install the ubuntu package by doing an install from the ubuntu repos
[11:46] <_jason> ubotu, tell greatjones about java
[11:47] <The_Isle_of_Mark> !info ethereal
[11:47] <ubotu> ethereal: (network traffic analyzer), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.10.12-2ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 485 kB, Installed size: 1312 kB
[11:47] <QMario> Ubotu, tell QMario about FTP.
[11:47] <erUSUL> adri, go to https://grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2 and check some randon ports e.g. 4555
[11:47] <The_Isle_of_Mark> kuraia see above ubotu post about ethereal version
[11:47] <ubuntu> Im using a live cd right now....love ubuntu
[11:47] <_jason> QMario, you can just pm ubotu your query
[11:47] <hedonick> QMario: do   apt-cache search 'ftp server'
[11:48] <ubuntu> are there any ubuntu laptops?
[11:48] <soundray> ubuntu, sure!
[11:48] <ubuntu> where?
[11:48] <QMario> Ubuntu, you would know. ;)
[11:48] <ubuntu> lol
[11:48] <ubuntu> the default name
[11:48] <The_Isle_of_Mark> ubuntu right here is one :)
[11:48] <Moo> greatjones: default ubuntu install doesn't have root password, i think
[11:48] <_jason> ubuntu, I bleieve hp sells laptops with ubuntu preinstalled, but ubuntu works great on a lot of them (I use inspiron 8200)
[11:48] <Moo> greatjones: you need to set it first
[11:48] <HrdwrBoB> unreal: the IBM X40 is a good laptop for ubuntu, also the IBM T40
[11:49] <Jambon> anyone know a good channel for help with java programming?
[11:49] <HrdwrBoB> (well, X41, T43 in the latest models)
[11:49] <Moo> greatjones: ubuntu uses normally sudo, but sun java install requires su
[11:49] <SEJeff> greatjones: No you don't. type: sudo -s and type your normal user password
[11:49] <HrdwrBoB> but eh, all good
[11:49] <_jason> Jambon, #java?
[11:49] <HrdwrBoB> Jambon: try #java :O
[11:49] <rafx> what are the odds of Ubuntu getting an up-to-date postfix package like 2.2.6?
[11:49] <mkyb14> does anyone know how to check what version of xwindows ubuntu 5.10 is using so that i can figure out what version of the ATI drivers to download and install for a radeon 9700
[11:49] <Jambon> evidently i need to register
[11:49] <SEJeff> !tell greatjones about rootsudo
[11:49] <hedonick> ubuntu: if you need to check if someone has installed ubuntu on a specific laptop before and what the result was http://www.linux-laptop.net/ might help
[11:50] <erUSUL> !tell mkyb14 about ati
[11:50] <soundray> ubuntulog, also http://www.tuxmobil.de
[11:50] <Jambon> how do i register a name?
[11:50] <QMario> Are there people offering free and legal domain names?
[11:50] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell Jambon about register
[11:50] <HrdwrBoB> yes, and they're all scammers
[11:50] <adri> erUSUL, i dont understand very much what u asking me... i havent got the level in informatic to solve this problem.. thank u for your attention...
[11:51] <erUSUL> adri, np
[11:51] <nutter426> how do i map a share from a windows pc to hoary?
[11:51] <ubuntu> czr: i just messed up GRUB. im on the live cd. how can i install it back?
[11:51] <gi2k15> Ubuntu isn't able here to automount udf CDs. Any ideas to resolve it?
[11:51] <QMario> HrdwerBoB, were you talking to me?
[11:52] <QMario> HrdwrBoB
[11:53] <erUSUL> ubuntulog, grub-install /dev/hdxx
[11:53] <mkyb14> erusul  thats not for installing but fixing a frozen state
[11:53] <phiqtion> czr: i just messed up GRUB. im on the live cd. how can i install it back?
[11:53] <soundray> gi2k15, mount it with a terminal command?
[11:53] <erUSUL> ubuntulog, grub-install /dev/hdxx
[11:53] <mkyb14> i'm looking at the ati website for the drivers adn it wan'ts to knwo what version of xwindows i have
[11:54] <erUSUL> !info xserver-xorg
[11:54] <ubotu> xserver-xorg: (the X.Org X server (dummy package)), section x11, is optional. Version: 6.8.2-77 (breezy), Packaged size: 267 kB, Installed size: 700 kB
[11:54] <Chris_in_the_uk> hey, i'm having problems installing screens, i've downloaded the source but i'm having problems when i run configure
[11:54] <erUSUL> mkyb14, 6.8.2-77
[11:54] <gi2k15> soundray, I did it and worked, but then I wasn't able to umount it because it said the device was busy, all the time.
[11:54] <khalif> Excuse me, but I've got Kubuntu installed on an old Thinkpad. My Thinkpad doesn't have an Ethernet port so i have to download programs using my iMac and then transfer to the Thinkpad using my USB pen drive.
[11:54] <khalif> What folder do i copy and un-tar programs into?
[11:54] <Chris_in_the_uk> khalif /tmp?
[11:54] <phiqtion> how can i reinstall grub?
[11:55] <gratuit> when using Aterm to run mc, all of the line characters appear as strange blocks followed by an a, anyone know how to fix this?
[11:55] <soundray> gi2k15, you need to cd away from any directory on the disk before you can umount. Also close all open files on the CD.
[11:55] <Chris_in_the_uk> !info tgetent
[11:55] <erUSUL> khalif, somewhere under your home
[11:55] <gi2k15> soundray, I did it, but still got this problem
[11:55] <mkyb14> what does that mean?
[11:55] <Chris_in_the_uk> !info libncurses
[11:55] <erUSUL> phillyb, grub-install
[11:56] <erUSUL> mkyb14, is the xorg version
[11:56] <mkyb14> oh for breezy?
[11:56] <phiqtion> how can i reinstall grub?
[11:56] <erUSUL> mkyb14, yes
[11:56] <Chris_in_the_uk> can anyone help me installing screens?
[11:56] <erUSUL> phillyb, grub-install
[11:56] <erUSUL> phiqtion, grub-install
[11:56] <khalif> Ok, I'm confused. /tmp or the home folder: Which one?
[11:56] <phiqtion> erUSUL, anything else?
[11:56] <mkyb14> sweet thanks
[11:56] <erUSUL> Chris_in_the_uk, screens??
[11:57] <n0dl> when i opened synaptic and clicked to uninstall firefox it told me that xubuntu-desktop was to be removed as well!
[11:57] <phiqtion> erUSUL, a menu appears after that
[11:57] <soundray> gi2k15, I get this, sometimes it's just impossible to find the process that prevents umounting. I don't think it's a udf fault.
[11:57] <Chris_in_the_uk> erUSUL - yes, so i can ssh in, run a program, close the ssh then come back later
[11:57] <n0dl> how do i remove firefox without removing xubuntu-desktop?
[11:57] <erUSUL> phiqtion, sorry a tab completion mistake twice 8)
[11:57] <robotgeek> n0dl: that's a meta package, you need not worry till you are upgrading to dapper
[11:57] <_jason> nodl read the description of that package
[11:57] <erUSUL> Chris_in_the_uk, sudo apt-get install screen
[11:57] <Chris_in_the_uk> erUSUL: http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/#introduction
[11:58] <Chris_in_the_uk> erUSUL: tried that
[11:58] <Chris_in_the_uk> i'm having to compile from source
[11:58] <erUSUL> and?
[11:58] <gi2k15> soundray, I don't know. The ISO cds mounts ok, but only when it comes to udf I got this problem
[11:58] <n0dl> robotgeek: i dont get what your saying
[11:58] <erUSUL> !tell Chris_in_the_uk about sources
[11:58] <Millenniumgroup> !tell Millenniumgroup about sources
[11:58] <soundray> gi2k15, well, I may be wrong. Does umount -f work?
[11:59] <Millenniumgroup> ah nice bot
[11:59] <Ninjaa> hi guys, im trying to extract a xampp thats on my desktop into the opt folder, and egtthe command line right though. anyone help ?
[11:59] <gi2k15> soundray, never tried it.
[11:59] <robotgeek> n0dl: all i am saying is there is no reason to worry
[11:59] <phiqtion> how can i reinstall grub?
[11:59] <Ninjaa> :o at my typing
[11:59] <soundray> gi2k15, last time I tried it didn't work anyway.
[11:59] <khalif> Also, can I work mount/unmount disk images in linux?
[11:59] <n0dl> robotgeek: so i can uninstall it without deleting my xubuntu-desktop?
[11:59] <soundray> phiqtion, grub-install /dev/hda
[11:59] <gi2k15> soundray, I'll check it now