[12:08] <os2mac> hello everyone
[12:09] <khalif> Anyone know how to delete folders?
[12:10] <kkathman> khalif: from the CLI?
[12:10] <kkathman> rm -rf <folder>
[12:10] <khalif> Well I wanted to do it from the desktop, but when I try to move the folder into the trash can, I get an error...
[12:10] <angasule> khalif: from konqueror, select them and press delete, or right click on them and select the 'delete' option
[12:10] <angasule> what error, khalif?
[12:10] <kkathman> khalif: probably a permissions error
[12:11] <vblanton> Anyone know why mp3 files are unsupported in a clean kubuntu install?
[12:11] <kkathman> or that the directory has something in it
[12:11] <jbueler> what does it mean when a repository is signed with a GPG key?
[12:11] <kkathman> jbueler: means that if you get it, and you use that person's key and there are no errors, that the package is authetically his/hers
[12:11] <khalif> No it says that creating folders is not supported in the trash protocol. What does that mean?
[12:12] <vblanton> jbueler: GPG key's prove the authenticity of the repository.
[12:12] <kkathman> vblanton: yah thats what I just said :)
[12:12] <vblanton> kkathman: didn't notice, was just typing and not looks ;)
[12:12] <vblanton> um, so why aren't mp3 files playing in a base kubuntu installl?
[12:12] <vblanton> ghehe
[12:13] <angasule> khalif: maybe folders can't be put in the trash, you have to delete them directly (and therefore you won't be able to undelete them)
[12:13] <vblanton> angasule: no way
[12:13] <angasule> vblanton: legal issues, I guess, you need help getting them to play?
[12:13] <angasule> vblanton: no way what?
[12:14] <jbueler> oh so if i'm trying to add a repository how do I go about adding the key....
[12:14] <jbueler> i have tried this...# wget http://repos.knio.it/key.asc
[12:14] <jbueler> # apt-key add key.asc
[12:14] <vblanton> angasule: folder can be deleted, i assume that he's trying to drag the folder onto the icon on the tasbar and it's automatically attempting to make a "copy" within the trash protocol. who knows why. sounds like a bug to me.
[12:14] <angasule> it'd be nice if there was a switch to auto-add all mp3 packages for the programs you've installed (so if you install k3b, k3b-mp3 is installed, etc)
[12:14] <angasule> vblanton: that's what I said
[12:15] <vblanton> angasule: right, but you can drag a folder into a trash can window screen, or right click folders and send them into the trash, just not drag onto the icon.
[12:15] <vblanton> angasule: so how do I get mp3's working in my proggies?
[12:16] <angasule> vblanton: hmm, you're right, it doesn't make sense, though
[12:16] <angasule> vblanton: what are your proggies?
[12:16] <vblanton> angasule: just the base kubuntu system
[12:17] <vblanton> angasule: k3b has an mp3 package, what about kaffeine and amarok
[12:17] <jbueler> umm never mind I think I just got it...
[12:18] <angasule> vblanton: you have to install the win32codecs, let me get you the link
[12:19] <angasule> http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#mp3s
[12:19] <khalif> Thanks kkathman. I used that CLI tip you gave. :)
[12:20] <vblanton> angasule: I didn't know that mp3's are win32codecs.
[12:20] <angasule> http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/MP3_on_Kubuntu_5.10
[12:20] <vblanton> ok lemme see
[12:20] <angasule> err, no, you're right, my head is messed up, vblanton, disregard that, but the links are fine :)
[12:20] <robotgeek> vblanton: if you install the xine engine, mp3's should work fine on amarok
[12:20] <khalif> vblanton: Do I drag the home folder to the desktop or /home/(username) folder to get the home icon to appear?
[12:21] <vblanton> angasule: thanks for the link
[12:21] <angasule> you're welcome
[12:21] <vblanton> khalif: just drag it on over!
[12:21] <vblanton> khalif: either way will work though
[12:22] <khalif> LOL! Which folder though: The home folder or the username folder?
[12:22] <vblanton> khalif: ok, you can send a link of the /home/khalif folder, or just drag the home icon on your kicker (taskbar) on to the desktop
[12:23] <Insom__> which codec package do i need to play realmedia files?
[12:23] <khalif> Hmmm, Interesting: I don't have a home icon on my taskbar. How do i enable that?  :O 
[12:25] <vblanton> khalif: oh? you can drag it on from konqi
[12:25] <khalif> ok
[12:25] <vblanton> khalif: when you open konqi, you'll see a link to home
[12:26] <vblanton> khalif: you can drag that link on to the taskbar
[12:26] <vblanton> khalif: then, i'd recomend changing the icon to the cool house :P
[12:26] <khalif> How do I do that (Change Icon)?
[12:27] <vblanton> khalif: if you right click and icon and click properties you'll be able to click on the image of the icon to change it
[12:27] <vblanton> (within the properties dialogue)
[12:27] <khalif> OH!
[12:28] <khalif> 8) 
[12:28] <vblanton> :) Cool, huh? You haven't seen 1% yet ;)
[12:29] <vblanton> khalif: there are so many cool things you can do with a linux-box its increadible...
[12:29] <vblanton> khalif: do you know what superkaramba is?
[12:29] <angasule> Insom__: hmm, did you google for "kubuntu wiki real" or something like that? my connection is so loaded right now I can't load the google main page...
[12:29] <khalif> No, tell me:  :P 
[12:30] <vblanton> khalif: Once you get a feel of linux and your a bit more comfortable with the system, I recommend checking out superkaramba. its a tool for having widgets on your desktop (like a weather notifier, or a music player directly on your desktop screen).
[12:31] <vblanton> The next version of Kubuntu will have it built in, and you can install the newest version of KDE if you want it (it is also built-in).
[12:31] <vblanton> Or, you can install the seperate package out of Adept.
[12:31] <angasule> khalif: if you press ALT and SPACE at the same time, and then write the name of a program (like 'konqueror'), then press ENTER, the application opens (it's really nice if you don't want to use the mouse so much)
[12:31] <vblanton> sure thing
[12:32] <vblanton> you can also do mathematical equations in that dialog box ;)
[12:32] <angasule> vblanton: how?
[12:33] <vblanton> I think you just type "1 + 2" or whatever and hit entger
[12:33] <angasule> doesn't work for me :?
[12:33] <khalif> Ok two things: First, I'm trying to change the icon using properties like you said, but after I click ok, nothing happens. What am I doing incorrectly?
[12:34] <vblanton> khalif: if you choose a new icon and hit OK it should change immediately
[12:35] <khalif> also when i press ALT + SPACEBAR together something called katapult appears. What's that?
[12:35] <vblanton> you could try refreshing the desktop, but I doubt that's necessary (right click on desktop and click refresh)
[12:35] <vblanton> khalif: a easy program finding tool.
[12:35] <vblanton> angasule: open up the run command dialog and type in 1+2
[12:35] <vblanton> angasule: and then hit enter
[12:35] <jbueler> got another question....about installing a program and repository...
[12:36] <jbueler> can someone help?
[12:36] <vblanton> angasule: mine opens with alt + f2 but I think i changed it from the default one..
[12:36] <vblanton> jbueler: shoot
[12:36] <jbueler> I'm trying to install k9copy by adding the repository and the key which I did but when I install the 
[12:36] <jbueler> adept thing says BREAk(install)
[12:37] <angasule> vblanton: alt + f2 is another thing, try alt + space
[12:37] <vblanton> angasule: I changed my default shortcuts :)
[12:37] <angasule> vblanton: yes, but alt + f2 also runs programs, and it does work as a calculator like you said (I just tried it :P )
[12:38] <vblanton> jbueler: I'm not sure. i haven't been using kubuntu for long enough to tell you about adept. I can only answer general linux q's
[12:38] <vblanton> angasule: oh, ok :)
[12:38] <vblanton> angasule: great :)
[12:38] <angasule> alt + space calls a program called Katapult
[12:38] <vblanton> angasule: rigt
[12:38] <jbueler> oh no problem thanks though! I'm brand new to linux and Kubuntu so thanks
[12:38] <jbueler> anyways
[12:39] <vblanton> jbueler: i don't think you need to add a key... just the repo
[12:39] <os2mac> who wants to know about adept?
[12:39] <vblanton> jbueler
[12:39] <os2mac> what's the problem?
[12:39] <jbueler> well I added a repository then selected the packeage 
[12:40] <jbueler> but under action it says BREAK(install)
[12:40] <jbueler> whats this mean and how can I fix?
[12:41] <EMMESHEMI> i am setting up kontact and ran across the spam filters.  I have a choice of bogofilter or GMX spam Filter.  Any suggestions?
[12:41] <os2mac> sounds like a problem with dependancies....
[12:41] <os2mac> did you try to use apt-get?
[12:42] <vblanton> os2mac: he's using Adept
[12:42] <jbueler> no not sure the exacty way to do it....
[12:42] <jbueler> is it apt-get install "packageName" ?
[12:42] <os2mac> I understand that... but maybe it will work with apt-get...
[12:42] <vblanton> EMMESHEMI: you can use both, right? ;)
[12:42] <os2mac> yes...
[12:42] <EMMESHEMI> oy
[12:42] <EMMESHEMI> yes
[12:43] <vblanton> EMMESHEMI: :) That's what I did
[12:43] <EMMESHEMI> work ok?
[12:43] <khalif> Ok, here's a big question: How can I get those vertical lines in the menubar to disappear?
[12:43] <EMMESHEMI> in windows world..they tend to compete for the same message if you have 2 spam filters
[12:44] <vblanton> EMMESHEMI: Give it a try, you can always change it later.
[12:44] <vblanton> EMMESHEMI: or pick one and see if it works for you
[12:44] <khalif> I'm also still trying to figure out what directory I need to install applications into...
[12:44] <vblanton> khalif: what vertical lines?
[12:46] <khalif> There are thse vertical lines that are all over my menubar, I think they are a part of the style or system them. But no matter what style or theme I use, the lines are still there....
[12:46] <khalif> :( 
[12:47] <vblanton> khalif: I'm not sure what you mean, but i'm not using the default style, so you maybe someone else can help ya
[12:47] <khalif> ok...
[12:47] <Hentai^XP> possibly vid ram is borked
[12:47] <khalif> I think I asked you this already vblanton, but what folder to I copy applications that I've downloaded into?
[12:48] <vblanton> khalif: you can place them in your home folder
[12:48] <vblanton> khalif: make a directory called apps or whatever, and install them in there.
[12:49] <khalif> should I do '/home/khalif/.kde/apps' or should do '/home/khalif/apps'?
[12:52] <khalif> Also I know you guys are getting sick of me but I got one more question: I know how to un-tar a file, but how can I open a .zip file in linux using the CLI?
[12:54] <kylev> khalif: there is probably an "unzip" program for you
[12:54] <kylev> it's in the unzip package
[12:55] <kylev> bah, wait, sorry.
[12:55] <kylev> unzip package on centos
[12:55] <kylev> forgot what channel I was on :P
[12:56] <hacked_hank> hello
[12:57] <khalif> No I actually have it. I jsut checked adept. So all I have to do is call it from the cli like so: unzip (name-of-file) right?
[12:58] <jbueler> whats this mean...."E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?"
[12:59] <jbueler> this is the error I get when i try to apt-get from konsole
[01:00] <vblanton> goodbye all
[01:00] <angasule> bye vblanton 
[01:00] <Hobbsee> morning all
[01:00] <angasule> jbueler: do you have adept open?
[01:00] <khalif> thanks vblanton
[01:00] <khalif> hello hobbsee
[01:01] <Hobbsee> hey khalif 
[01:01] <khalif> hows it hangin?  :D 
[01:01] <khalif> I'm s corny....
[01:01] <Hobbsee> hey os2mac 
[01:01] <khalif> I'm so corny
[01:01] <Hobbsee> clearly
[01:01] <khalif> lol!
[01:02] <khalif> You have to excuse me, I'm a NOOB....  O:) 
[01:03] <os2mac> Lo Hobbsee...
[01:03] <os2mac> howzit?
[01:03] <Hobbsee> yeah, good, just got home :)
[01:04] <os2mac> same here... waiting for the snow.
[01:04] <Hobbsee> snow?  *is jealous*
[01:06] <jbueler> angasule: sorry I was trying to figure this out...yeah its open
[01:07] <jbueler> you think that is the problem ?
[01:07] <Hobbsee> jbueler: if it's an error about the directory being locked or something, yes
[01:07] <Hobbsee> i came in late
[01:08] <jbueler> yeah it says its locked...I closed it I'll try again...
[01:08] <jbueler> yep that looks like it damn I feel dumb...thanks'
[01:09] <Hobbsee> no problems 
[01:09] <Hobbsee> plenty of people come in here with that error, dont worry
[01:16] <jbueler> Hobbsee: you have time for another newbie question?
[01:16] <Hobbsee> sure
[01:16] <Hobbsee> got no idea if i'll be able to answer it, but i'll give it a shot
[01:16] <jbueler> i'm trying to ultimately install k9copy it has dependacnies that aren't availible
[01:17] <jbueler> so I found them and downloaded a .deb file
[01:17] <jbueler> is this something I can istall the package from?
[01:17] <Hobbsee> you found the dependancies from where?
[01:17] <Hobbsee> did you download a .deb of the dependancies, or a deb of the k9copy?
[01:18] <jaro> hey you guys
[01:18] <jbueler> http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fq%2Fqt-x11-free%2Flibqt3c102-mt_3.3.4-3_i386.deb&md5sum=ef0153655738cd107b81fafa5724897e&arch=i386&type=main
[01:18] <Hobbsee> a deb of the k9copy, i presume
[01:18] <jaro> do You know if it is possible to install WarCraft III on Linux ?
[01:18] <jbueler> yeah thats what it says...
[01:19] <Hobbsee> jaro: ah, yes, i think so, with wine or cedega, or maybe there's a  native version of it
[01:19] <Hobbsee> jbueler: sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt
[01:20] <Hobbsee> you dont want to get the packages from debian
[01:21] <jbueler> oh ok.
[01:22] <jbueler> there is one other pakage I'll try to get that to work...
[01:22] <Hobbsee> jbueler: as for the k9copy deb that you want to run
[01:22] <jbueler> yeah
[01:22] <Hobbsee> in a console, cd to the directory where you downloaded it, and type "sudo dpkg -i filename<tab>"
[01:24] <jaro> hmm
[01:24] <jbueler> well I was trying to use apt-get for k9copy but it was saying there are other dependacies that weren't available
[01:24] <jaro> how can i install cedega
[01:25] <Hobbsee> !cedega
[01:25] <ubotu> hmm... cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/index.php?title=Main_Page or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/
[01:25] <Hobbsee> jbueler: post the entire error you got to the pastebin?
[01:25] <Hobbsee> !info k9copy
[01:28] <khalif> How do i use the 'unzip' command to open a .zip file in the CLI?
[01:28] <Hobbsee> jbueler: this is probably safer - i'll compile it and send a deb to you to install...
[01:28] <_mike> hello
[01:28] <jbueler> oh ok...sure
[01:28] <Hobbsee> debian packages dont always work - it's safer to compile them
[01:28] <_mike> whats happening out there people/
[01:28] <_mike> ?
[01:29] <Hobbsee> er...
[01:29] <_mike> lol how much does this Operating System can do?
[01:29] <[Relic] > anyone know where the color profiles arte stored for the desktop?
[01:29] <raphink> indeed, Debian packages shouldn't be installed as such
[01:29] <_mike> or how much can this operating system can do?
[01:30] <raphink> but compiled in Ubuntu
[01:30] <Hobbsee> raphink: getting a problem with make for it though...
[01:30] <raphink> which package Hobbsee ?
[01:30] <Hobbsee> k9copy
[01:30] <raphink> _mike: what do you mean?
[01:30] <raphink> where did you take it Hobbsee and what error do you get on make?
[01:30] <Hobbsee> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/450306
[01:31] <_mike> wanting to know what all this OS can do?
[01:31] <Hobbsee> grabbed the source at http://k9copy.free.fr/index.php and built it via ./configure, then that was at the end of make
[01:31] <raphink> Hobbsee: did you try to dpkg-buildpackage it ?
[01:31] <raphink> _mike: it can do anything you want an OS to do
[01:31] <Hobbsee> no, how do i do that?
[01:32] <raphink> Hobbsee: you got a .deb right?
[01:32] <Hobbsee> no, i went straight from source
[01:32] <_mike> does it got good antivirus and firewall
[01:32] <_mike> that are easy to use
[01:32] <raphink> Hobbsee: oh ok
[01:32] <raphink> Hobbsee: planning to package it?
[01:32] <raphink> _mike: no need for antiviruses
[01:33] <Hobbsee> raphink: well, with checkinstall, and sending it to him, yes
[01:33] <raphink> and as of firewall, it's always better to have a dedicated machine or router for it
[01:33] <Hobbsee> ooh, better still...
[01:33] <_mike> because this operating system is ok agenst viruses that a windows pc can get
[01:33] <_mike> ?
[01:34] <raphink> Windows viruses are not Linux compatible
[01:34] <raphink> Hobbsee: ?
[01:34] <Hobbsee> http://www.kubuntu.de/archive/pool/breezy/testing/k9copy_1.0.1b-0kubuntu2_i386.deb
[01:34] <_mike> are there any linux viruses out there i am new to linux
[01:34] <_mike> and UNIX
[01:34] <raphink> Hobbsee: heh ;)
[01:34] <Hobbsee> _mike: you might want to check out www.ubuntuforums.org - a lot of this is answered there - people have written pages on all this stuff
[01:35] <Hobbsee> raphink: http://www.kubuntu.de/archive/pool/breezy/testing/
[01:35] <raphink> _mike: about 10 known in total I think, most of them being innofensive and offensive one using security holes that have been fixed since
[01:35] <_mike> thanks sorry for bugging you
[01:35] <raphink> looks good Hobbsee 
[01:35] <raphink> Hobbsee: it's not in universe or backports?
[01:36] <Hobbsee> no, k9 copy is not
[01:36] <raphink> hmm weird
[01:37] <Hobbsee> raphink: and those packages arent in universe cos there hasnt been time to merge them into it
[01:38] <raphink> hmm they're not even in dapper's universe?
[01:39] <Hobbsee> dont know - not booted to dapper atm
[01:39] <raphink> ok
[01:39] <raphink> you can check on ubuntu.packages.com
[01:46] <musashiden> hey, i need help ASAP
[01:46] <musashiden> this is ridiculous
[01:47] <musashiden> i installed breezy completely from scratch, and i still get the same damned error i got when i updated from hoary to breezy
[01:47] <Hobbsee> musashiden: what about?
[01:47] <Hobbsee> which error?
[01:47] <musashiden> the nvidia-glx drivers are messed up
[01:48] <[Relic] > no clues on where the appearance and themes of the desktop are stored?
[01:48] <musashiden> i get some "screens not found" error
[01:49] <musashiden> it works when i reconfigure xorg and i set up the device as "nv", but when i put nvidia, i get that error
[01:50] <musashiden> and i doubt its me because i just formatted my computer and installed kubuntu breezy from scratch
[01:50] <Hobbsee> why not leave the device set as nv?
[01:51] <musashiden> because then Xorg takes most of the CPU
[01:51] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[01:51] <devilz> hi i installed ubuntu first, then i install 'kde' packages to get kde, how can i remove gnome now?
[01:52] <DRAGON_Ultra> why remove
[01:52] <devilz> dont need packages
[01:52] <musashiden> iam thinking that the nvidia-glx drivers are messed up in the ubuntu ftp servers where i downloaded them from
[01:52] <Hobbsee> devilz: did you install "kubuntu-desktop"?
[01:52] <DRAGON_Ultra> hmm
[01:52] <devilz> i'm installing it now Hobbsee 
[01:52] <Hobbsee> cool :)
[01:52] <musashiden> a little help would be appreciated!!
[01:53] <devilz> Hobbsee, do i need to apt-get install kde & apt get install kde-core?
[01:53] <musashiden> ...
[01:54] <Hobbsee> devilz: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:54] <Hobbsee> that's all you need...
[01:54] <devilz> ok
[01:54] <Hobbsee> musashiden: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074 does that help?
[01:54] <devilz> i'm watching How to Install kde ;) thats why i'm asking ;)
[01:54] <musashiden> i know how to install them, i just did, but they are bugged
[01:55] <devilz> Hobbsee, what is better gdm or kdm?
[01:55] <Hobbsee> i prefer kdm, but either
[01:55] <djk_> heh "useless".. interesting..
[01:56] <Hobbsee> devilz: i'm still looking for the command to get rid of gnome
[01:56] <amu> devilz: in case you wanna get rid of gnome, just run a: sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop --purge
[01:56] <devilz> ohh
[01:56] <devilz> there it is Hobbsee 
[01:56] <devilz> ;)
[01:56] <devilz> ty amu 
[01:56] <Hobbsee> that works?
[01:56] <amu> you maybe need rerun apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:56] <amu> Hobbsee: yep
[01:57] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[01:57] <Hobbsee> wish i'd known that months ago
[01:57] <jbueler> Hobbsee: your Mr. Fix it...but thanks for your help earlier with the k9copy thing...I can't quite figure out what I'm to do but I'll give it another go later on....thanks
[01:57] <jbueler> :)
[01:57] <Hobbsee> jbueler: did you download it?
[01:57] <djk_> amu: most likely since both metapackages include OOo for example, don't they
[01:57] <jbueler> huh?
[01:57] <devilz> btw does kde have same file manager like gnome has nautilus
[01:57] <devilz> ?
[01:58] <jbueler> sorry did I miss something?
[01:58] <djk_> konqueror
[01:58] <djk_> devilz: ^
[01:58] <devilz> only that?
[01:58] <djk_> krusader
[01:58] <Hobbsee> jbueler: download http://www.kubuntu.de/archive/pool/breezy/testing/k9copy_1.0.1b-0kubuntu2_i386.deb
[01:58] <Hobbsee> just to your home directory
[01:59] <amu> djk_: thats why i said you maybe need to rerun .... kubuntu-desktop :)
[01:59] <djk_> :)
[02:00] <EMMESHEMI> does anyone else get a message from "crash handler" that "kicker" caused an error?  I just formatted this machine today and am getting it again.
[02:00] <devilz> amu, is it possible to remove gnome desktop and to keep nautilus ?:)
[02:00] <vblanton> Hey all. Anyone know how to fire up superkaramba once KDE 3.5 is installed?
[02:01] <Hobbsee> vblanton: alt+f2, superkaramba
[02:01] <vblanton> nope, looks like its not even installed
[02:01] <amu> devilz: just remove everything and run a apt-get install nautilus; only the minimum needed files will be installed
[02:01] <vblanton> I thought it came with 3.5?
[02:01] <devilz> i installed kde desktop now
[02:01] <devilz> and then i removed gnome
[02:01] <devilz> like you said
[02:02] <Hobbsee> vblanton: sudo apt-get install superkaramba - it's in those repos
[02:02] <vblanton> Hobbsee: oh yes, I got it in Adept now
[02:02] <vblanton> Hobbsee: I just thought it was a dep
[02:02] <devilz> brb
[02:02] <Hobbsee> :)
[02:04] <khalif> Excuse me, but what text editor could I call from the terminal to edit a file?
[02:05] <Hobbsee> khalif: gedit, kwrite, kate, nano
[02:05] <khalif> I tried gedit, but apparently I don't have that one.
[02:05] <khalif> ok, I do have kate.
[02:05] <khalif> Thanks!
[02:07] <Hobbsee> :) no problems
[02:08] <vblanton> khalif: nano is a text-editor within the commandline
[02:08] <vblanton> khalif: its nice, but kate is graphical and has highlighting for code.
[02:08] <vblanton> KDE 3.5 is nice :)
[02:09] <Hobbsee> oh yes, definetly
[02:09] <vblanton> The transparent kicker is a little slow though
[02:09] <vblanton> i mean, taskbar, not kicker
[02:09] <vblanton> But only because of the new-style notifications aaron seigo made
[02:10] <djk_> !start an editor war
[02:10] <ubotu> vim is better than xemacs.
[02:10] <vblanton> Why would you want a pop-up telling you the name of the application when it's already named in your taskbar?
[02:11] <devilz> http://www.kde-look.org/content/pre1/25668-1.jpg can someone tell me where can i get that toolbar?
[02:11] <Hobbsee> that'll be kbfx
[02:12] <Hobbsee> devilz: yeah, that's a standard kicker, with kbfx
[02:12] <Hobbsee> kbfx is the little button on the left
[02:12] <devilz> how can i have kbfx too
[02:12] <Hobbsee> !kbfx
[02:12] <ubotu> Hobbsee: I give up, what is it?
[02:13] <Hobbsee> devilz: http://www.kubuntu.de/archive/pool/breezy/testing/
[02:13] <Hobbsee> otherwise, use the search on kde-look.org for kbfx, which you'll need to do anyway to pick a pretty button to use
[02:14] <devilz> Hobbsee, can you show me your kde desktop
[02:15] <Hobbsee> um...
[02:15] <Hobbsee> you'd probably want to see my dapper one, not my breezy one
[02:15] <Hobbsee> and i dont have kbfx installed on this machine
[02:15] <khalif> I'm trying to hide the GRUB menu on boot up: from the terminal I styped sudo kwrite /boot/grub/menu.lst   The instructions that I found said to uncomment the hiddenmenu line. I did that and rebooted, but the grub menu still showed. Whaat did I do wrong?
[02:15] <devilz> oh ok
[02:19] <devilz> Hobbsee, what about taskbar?
[02:19] <devilz> how to change it
[02:20] <vblanton> Anyone notice that "For Transparency" is a little slower than say, "elegant"?
[02:20] <vblanton> In KDE 3.5
[02:21] <fatejudger> I don't like taskbar transparency
[02:21] <devilz> http://www.kde-look.org/content/pre1/25668-1.jpg
[02:21] <devilz> i like this
[02:21] <djk_> khalif: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-4-Manual/ref-guide/s1-grub-configfile.html
[02:21] <devilz> its not transparent
[02:23] <neoncode> what's the linux equivilent of CTRL+ALT+DEL with the process list?
[02:23] <vblanton> Ctrl + Esc
[02:24] <vblanton> That's the KDE-equiv atleast
[02:24] <vblanton> not linux-equic
[02:24] <neoncode> vblanton: Ctrl + Esc does nothing... great....
[02:25] <vblanton> neoncode: ok, that's my hotkey, I might have changed it.. lets see...
[02:26] <vblanton> neoncode: did you try ctrl + alt + del?
[02:26] <vblanton> You can find it in Kmenu > System > Performance Monitor
[02:27] <robnyc> what u guys use here to play mp3s
[02:27] <vblanton> I'm not sure what the default hotkey for it is
[02:27] <vblanton> robnyc amarok
[02:27] <robnyc> vblanton: funny cuz i cant find the mp3s i downloaded
[02:28] <vblanton> robnyc did you install the mp3 packages? they are not available by default.
[02:28] <vblanton> robnyc: because of legal issues
[02:28] <robnyc> vblanton: yes i did but i can always double-check with u 
[02:28] <Hobbsee> !mp3
[02:28] <Glin|Jol> Winamp not Running
[02:28] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:28] <vblanton> ubotu: yes. kubuntu also has a link from there websites lemme find it..
[02:28] <ubotu> vblanton: Bugger all, i dunno
[02:29] <vblanton> http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php
[02:29] <jbueler> Hobbsee: I got k9copy up and running thanks so much! :)
[02:29] <vblanton> jbueler: nice :)
[02:29] <vblanton> http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#mp3s <--direct link
[02:30] <robnyc> ty vblanton let me see
[02:30] <Hobbsee> jbueler: yay!
[02:32] <vblanton> so, how do enable the dapper repos?
[02:32] <robnyc> vblanton: change breezy to dapper
[02:35] <vblanton> Anyone know how to download the newest versions of software from the dapper repos?
[02:35] <vblanton> while running breezy..
[02:39] <djk_|away> what does "clearing orphaned inode" mean?
[02:39] <Hobbsee> vblanton: you dont, unless you're crazy
[02:40] <devilz> Hobbsee, what about taskbar of Crystal Clear do you know where can i find it
[02:40] <Hobbsee> link to it?
[02:40] <Hobbsee> oh, from that picture above?
[02:40] <devilz> yes
[02:40] <vblanton> Hobbsee: I thought that it was alright to grab the newest versions of packages from dapper
[02:40] <Hobbsee> i'm assuming that's a normal kicker...check kde-look.org though - many things are there
[02:40] <vblanton> for instance, I want the newest version of the game wesnoth.. so I can play it online
[02:41] <devilz> Hobbsee, i did nothing is there
[02:41] <Hobbsee> vblanton: well...you're likely to have trouble, IIRC
[02:41] <devilz> http://everaldo.com/
[02:41] <devilz> this game made it
[02:41] <devilz> guy
[02:42] <devilz> this guy made it
[02:42] <devilz> but there are only icons ;(
[02:42] <Hobbsee> devilz: it looked to me like it was a standard kicker, no transparency, with a graded white background image...
[02:44] <devilz> its beautiful
[02:44] <devilz> ;)
[02:45] <Hobbsee> it is
[02:46] <Hobbsee> devilz: that's definetly a normal kicker
[02:46] <Hobbsee> with a different background image
[02:48] <devilz> ?
[02:48] <devilz> check image again
[02:48] <devilz> and tell me how i can get that toolbar
[02:48] <jsubl2> url please
[02:48] <devilz> like he has where it says kde - mozilla
[02:49] <devilz> http://everaldo.com/splashs/images/Crystal_Clear.jpg
[02:50] <devilz> colors are made so beautiful ;) white goes to light grey and then again white 
[02:50] <Hobbsee> hmmm...you're right - it's a kde theme
[02:50] <Hobbsee> i didnt notice the top of the firefox window
[02:50] <devilz> i know ;)
[02:50] <devilz> do you know where can i get it;)
[02:51] <Hobbsee> kde-look.org i'd say
[02:51] <jsubl2> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=25668
[02:52] <khalif> What does -xjf mean when un-tarring a file in the Terminal?
[02:52] <devilz> jsubl2, those are icons
[02:52] <devilz> i dont need icons
[02:52] <devilz> ;)
[02:52] <jsubl2> x extract j bzip2 f filename
[02:53] <Hobbsee> must go...
[02:53] <jsubl2> right devilz sorry
[02:53] <khalif> could I use -xjf with the unzip funtion to open a .zip file?
[02:54] <jsubl2> normally that would be unzip file.zip
[02:54] <djk_|away> khalif: x = extract, j = for bzip2 , f = file
[02:54] <devilz> btw where is Look and Feel
[02:54] <devilz> it says in control panel
[02:54] <devilz> but i dont find control panel ;)
[02:55] <khalif> so just 'unzip <filename>' is what I would type into the Terminal to open a .zip file right?
[03:01] <musashiden> does anyone know whats going on with the nvidia drivers?
[03:06] <jaro> hey you guys
[03:06] <jaro> does anyone of you know where to get Thunderbird 1.5 ?
[03:06] <musashiden> so nobody has ever had the "screens not found" problem before with the nvidia drivers?
[03:07] <devilz> checking for gcc... no
[03:07] <devilz> checking for cc... no
[03:07] <devilz> checking for cc... no
[03:07] <devilz> checking for cl... no
[03:07] <devilz> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[03:07] <devilz> huh?
[03:07] <crimsun> install build-essential
[03:08] <crimsun> no dev tools are installed by default
[03:08] <devilz> ty
[03:08] <musashiden> ...
[03:08] <devilz> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[03:09] <crimsun> musashiden: paste your Xorg.0.log onto pastebin
[03:09] <devilz> cant install windows decorations
[03:09] <devilz> ;(
[03:09] <crimsun> !x-includes
[03:09] <ubotu> crimsun: What?
[03:10] <crimsun> /msg ubotu xincludes
[03:10] <devilz> damn need to register nickname
[03:10] <devilz> lol
[03:11] <crimsun> !xincludes
[03:11] <ubotu> When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev
[03:11] <musashiden> ok, one moment
[03:11] <musashiden> crimsun: where is the log file again? i forget
[03:12] <musashiden> forgot*
[03:12] <crimsun> /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:13] <devilz_> !libjpeg
[03:13] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, devilz_
[03:13] <musashiden> erm, iam using nv now :s
[03:13] <musashiden> crimsun: if i use nvidia, then X wont start, so we wont be able to talk
[03:14] <djk_> crimsun: any way to find out what may have cause the load average to go from 0.10 to over 15 before i had to use the resetbutton?
[03:14] <musashiden> crimsun: but iam pretty sure the erro was "no screens found"
[03:14] <musashiden> error*
[03:14] <crimsun> musashiden: so change to nvidia, start X, copy the broken log file, revert to nv, start X, and paste the broken log file
[03:15] <crimsun> djk_: yes, look at /var/log/kernel*
[03:17] <djk_> crimsun: okay, and what exactly am i looking for?
[03:17] <devilz_> !qt
[03:17] <ubotu> Qt is the Q-toolkit. Qt is to KDE what GTK is to GNOME. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package
[03:18] <khalif> how do I use the dpkg comman in Terminal?
[03:18] <devilz_> checking for KDE... configure: error:
[03:18] <devilz_> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[03:18] <devilz_> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[03:18] <devilz_> wow what is that?
[03:19] <crimsun> what are you compiling?
[03:19] <khalif> subversion...
[03:19] <crimsun> djk_: an OOPS and/or erstwhile nastiness
[03:19] <crimsun> khalif: dpkg --help
[03:20] <khalif> it's a .deb file
[03:20] <crimsun> khalif: ...so you want to install it?
[03:20] <devilz_> crimsun, window decoration theme
[03:20] <devilz_> ;)
[03:20] <crimsun> devilz_: that's the name of the application?
[03:20] <khalif> Yes. I'm trying to use this Baghira theme and it says that I have to have that installed first.
[03:21] <devilz_> deKorator-0.1
[03:21] <khalif> It gives the windows the brushed metal look like OS X...
[03:21] <crimsun> devilz_: kdebase-dev
[03:22] <devilz_> need to install?
[03:22] <crimsun> khalif: why not use Adept to install subversion?
[03:22] <devilz_> ok installing
[03:22] <djk_> crimsun: i see some "printk: n messages surpressed" where n is a 3 digit number, followed by "hw tcp v4 csum failed"
[03:23] <khalif> I've got Kubuntu installed on a Thinkpad 600X; It doesn't have an Ethernet port on it so I have to download things through my iMac and then transfer them using my USB pen drive.
[03:23] <khalif> What's dekorator?
[03:30] <starscalling> sup ;)
[03:35] <dchan> Anybody have a solution to the automount problem yet?
[03:40] <comradevik> can i get flash and mplayer in konqueror
[03:40] <dchan> I was looking into this the other day...
[03:41] <dchan> you can try alien with RPM's
[03:41] <dchan> I haven't done it yet because I'm more worried about automount weirdness
[03:42] <dchan> you can get flash by installing the version for mozilla and then having konq use that plugin.
[03:43] <comradevik> it comes out really messed up
[03:44] <comradevik> it mooves too fast
[03:44] <comradevik> and without sound
[03:44] <dchan> talking about flash?
[03:44] <comradevik> yes
[03:44] <dchan> Have you first tried the plugin using firefox or mozilla?
[03:45] <dchan> Nobody seems to specifically develop these plugins for KDE/Konq so it pays to test with the target browser first.
[03:46] <comradevik> ./mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer
[03:46] <comradevik> thats what it says
[03:46] <dchan> Sounds good but this is a hard problem to diagnose
[03:46] <dchan> If the plugin is running things and they're moving too fast there may be some command-line switches you can feed the plugin
[03:47] <djk_> comradevik: did you try the flashinstaller yet?
[03:47] <dchan> I'll see if I can't replicate the issue
[03:48] <comradevik> .. i guess i'll just watch flash in firefox
[03:48] <dchan> are you using the "artsdsp to pipe plugin sound through aRts" setting?
[03:49] <dchan> I just let konq find the plugin (I already had it installed but never used it through konq).
[03:49] <dchan> And noticed that checkbox. 
[03:49] <dchan> Heading to newgrouds :-D
[03:55] <[Relic] > fresh install doesn't seem to have installed many of the video formats including avi and mpeg, how do I get all the basic video formats supported again?
[03:56] <EmmesHEMI> is there anyway to set firefox as the default browser in Kontact?  i want firefox to open when i click on a link.
[03:59] <kkathman> [Relic] : its because in general these are not "legal" for distribution, but you can get them from restricted formats
[03:59] <kkathman> !restrictedformats
[03:59] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[04:00] <dchan> If there's nothing obvious in kontact then check your ~/.kde/share/apps folder for a "kontact" folder and see if you can't twiddle the settings
[04:00] <[Relic] > can't even get to that since it didn't install psm
[04:00] <kkathman> psm?
[04:00] <dchan> psm?
[04:00] <kkathman> use konqueror
[04:00] <dchan> o_0
[04:02] <dchan> I use it but haven't heard the acronym "psm".
[04:02] <dchan> I don't have kontact/kmail installed because I use thunderbird
[04:04] <kkathman> dchan I just use Opera mail handler since I use Opera for most everything else
[04:08] <dchan> kurrently trying to work through the kubuntu kde automount issue :-(
[04:09] <EmmesHEMI> relic:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75278&highlight=HOWTO%3A+win32+video+codecs
[04:09] <dchan> at first it mounts things like a rabid squirrel, and then it stops mounting anything at all...
[04:11] <EmmesHEMI> understood, i just followed that one though and got it working
[04:11] <kkathman> I think the wiki would do the same thing
[04:12] <kkathman> which should always be the starting point I think
[04:12] <EmmesHEMI> hmm, i never check that.  good advice
[04:13] <dchan> getting wiki with it...
[04:17] <dchan> heading to the forums...wiki != solutions
[04:19] <dchan> Argh! ttfn...
[04:26] <RobNyc> Any easy way to get reiser4 into ubu's kernel or something , 
[04:30] <dareboy> how do u get lime wire
[04:32] <dareboy> ?
[04:32] <thoreauputic> !limewire
[04:32] <ubotu> rumour has it, limewire is first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.
[04:32] <thoreauputic> !java
[04:32] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[04:32] <dareboy> how do u get java
[04:33] <Kibou> ..
[04:33] <thoreauputic> !javadebs
[04:33] <ubotu> somebody said javadebs was Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[04:33] <dareboy> i mean how do u make universe repositroies
[04:33] <thoreauputic> !repos
[04:33] <ubotu> hmm... repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[04:34] <musashiden> hmm, i figured out my problem, turns out i needed to use nvidia-glx-legacy
[04:34] <musashiden> but theres one thing though
[04:34] <musashiden> xorg is lagging me, bad
[04:34] <musashiden> even though now its using the right nvidia drivers
[04:36] <RobNyc> Now Playing: John Lennon - Imagine [0:47/3:04]  [160 kbps]  [|||-------] 
[04:36] <RobNyc> oh yes limewire rocks
[04:37] <musashiden> ...
[04:37] <musashiden> anybody has any suggestions on how to make Xorg use less CPU?
[04:37] <`nauh> shut it down?
[04:38] <musashiden> ...
[04:38] <Br0k3ndr3ms> hello
[04:38] <Br0k3ndr3ms> i need some help
[04:38] <musashiden> i cant shut Xorg down, then everything would shut down
[04:38] <`nauh> how much cpu is it using
[04:38] <musashiden> 80% now
[04:38] <`nauh> yikes
[04:38] <Br0k3ndr3ms> i need some help with linux sound drivers
[04:39] <Br0k3ndr3ms> can any one help me?
[04:39] <musashiden> we can help you if you would just tell us what the problem is
[04:39] <Br0k3ndr3ms> i need the drivers for santa cruz
[04:40] <Br0k3ndr3ms> and i cant find them
[04:43] <Br0k3ndr3ms> i need the drivers for santa cruz sound card
[04:43] <Br0k3ndr3ms> and cant find them
[04:44] <musashiden> most sound cards dont even need a driver
[04:47] <Br0k3ndr3ms> well when i run a game it does this
[04:47] <Br0k3ndr3ms> ------- sound initialization -------
[04:47] <Br0k3ndr3ms> sound sampling rate: 11025
[04:47] <Br0k3ndr3ms> ./AlienArena: line 5:  8829 Bus error               ./crx +set game arena $*
[04:47] <Br0k3ndr3ms> and someone who knew about that game said its my sound drivers
[04:48] <musashiden> can you listen to music?
[04:48] <Br0k3ndr3ms> i can hear saound in other games yes
[04:48] <Br0k3ndr3ms> sound
[04:48] <musashiden> then is not the drivers
[04:49] <musashiden> is the game
[04:51] <Br0k3ndr3ms> were can i download adept???
[04:51] <musashiden> ....
[04:51] <Br0k3ndr3ms> it seems to have uninstalled itsself
[04:52] <musashiden> Br0k3ndr3ms: sudo apt-get install adept
[04:52] <Br0k3ndr3ms> i was trying to install something on it and it started removing all this stuff
[04:53] <musashiden> can anyone tell me, please, why is my Xorg taking up so much CPU even after i installed the right nvidia drivers and Xorg acknowledges them?
[04:54] <musashiden> it even shows the "nvidia" splash screen when Xorg loads up
[04:55] <`nauh> so how come the vncserver installed from apt-get doesnt know where the system's default font path is?
[04:56] <kkathman> musashiden: thats normal
[04:56] <kkathman> it should be your dominant process
[04:56] <kkathman> but your CPU load itself should be 4% or less on idle
[04:56] <musashiden> kkathman: so you are telling me it should use 80% of my cpu?
[04:56] <kkathman> a bunch of memory but not CPU
[04:57] <musashiden> its using cpu
[04:57] <musashiden> a lot of it
[04:57] <kkathman> are you sure?
[04:57] <musashiden> EVERYTHING is lagging
[04:57] <kkathman> what are you looking at?
[04:57] <musashiden> yes
[04:57] <musashiden> top
[04:57] <kkathman> are you in KDE?
[04:57] <musashiden> yes
[04:57] <khalif> Excuse me, but where could I find kscreensaver?
[04:57] <kkathman> khalif: on the k-menu
[04:58] <kkathman> under graphics
[04:58] <Br0k3ndr3ms> i need help
[04:58] <khalif> So it's already installed on the latest KDE?
[04:58] <Br0k3ndr3ms> really bad
[04:58] <kkathman> musashiden: try running ksysguard and look at the actual cpu while in KDE
[04:58] <kkathman> khalif: yes
[04:58] <khalif> Where could I find xmms?
[04:58] <kkathman> khalif: why dont your check around on the k-menu and explore
[04:59] <khalif> ok
[04:59] <kkathman> you'll find lots of things
[04:59] <Br0k3ndr3ms> i was trying to install something with adept and it started removeing lots of stuff does anyone know why this happend?
[04:59] <kkathman> Br0k3ndr3ms: depends on what you tried to install :)
[04:59] <`nauh> no one on the VNC thing?
[04:59] <kkathman> `nauh: check the wiki?
[05:00] <`nauh> no
[05:00] <`nauh> hmm
[05:00] <kkathman> !wiki
[05:00] <`nauh> at least not about htat
[05:00] <musashiden> kkathman: its using 12% of user% and 15% of system%
[05:00] <Br0k3ndr3ms> i forgot :(
[05:00] <kkathman> always try the wiki.ubuntu.com first :)
[05:00] <`nauh> heh
[05:00] <Br0k3ndr3ms> is there any way i can restore all of it?
[05:01] <Br0k3ndr3ms> it also killed adept
[05:02] <kkathman> Br0k3ndr3ms: well, if you installed stuff, and it removed stuff...
[05:02] <kkathman> if you knew what you installed
[05:02] <kkathman> you could remove it
[05:02] <Br0k3ndr3ms> i dont think it had gotten to it yet
[05:02] <musashiden> -sigh-
[05:03] <Br0k3ndr3ms> i think it had somehting to do with sound
[05:04] <kkathman> Br0k3ndr3ms: sometimes its normal for it to remove stuff, if the package is more current
[05:04] <Br0k3ndr3ms> like was it going to reinstall all of that stuff?
[05:04] <Br0k3ndr3ms> i exited it cause i got scarred
[05:04] <kkathman> maybe...maybe not
[05:05] <kkathman> I never used adept myself
[05:05] <kkathman> I always use either sudo apt-get or sudo aptitude
[05:05] <Br0k3ndr3ms> is there a better one than adept?
[05:05] <kkathman> and do that from the konsole
[05:05] <kkathman> then you have a log of what was removed and you get to see it first
[05:06] <Br0k3ndr3ms> it says E: Invalid operation adept
[05:06] <kkathman> ??
[05:06] <kinfo> i don't understand.
[05:06] <Br0k3ndr3ms> nvm
[05:06] <Br0k3ndr3ms> just me being stupid
[05:06] <Br0k3ndr3ms> sorry
[05:06] <kkathman> Br0k3ndr3ms:  for instance you find a package you want to install...called "foo"
[05:07] <kkathman> Br0k3ndr3ms: go to the konsole... type    sudo apt-get install foo
[05:07] <kkathman> it will come back and TELL you what its going to install, remove and update
[05:08] <Br0k3ndr3ms> crap i dont understand
[05:08] <Br0k3ndr3ms> like    sudo apt-get install Adept
[05:08] <Br0k3ndr3ms> ?
[05:09] <kkathman> well you DONT want to install adept
[05:09] <Br0k3ndr3ms> or is apt the same thing as adept
[05:09] <`nauh> kkathman: not finding anything useful on the wiki
[05:09] <kkathman> apt-get is like adept
[05:09] <`nauh> or in the forums
[05:09] <kkathman> `nauh:  maybe you could google Linux install VNC
[05:10] <`nauh> well i kinda know whats wrong
[05:10] <kkathman> Br0k3ndr3ms: you can find specific packages
[05:10] <Br0k3ndr3ms> like
[05:10] <`nauh> the font path for kubuntu isnt what VNC expects it to be
[05:10] <`nauh> so it cant find the fonts
[05:10] <Br0k3ndr3ms> sudo apt-get install kate
[05:10] <kkathman> Br0k3ndr3ms: using apt-cache search <package>
[05:10] <kkathman> Br0k3ndr3ms: yeah but thats already installed :)
[05:10] <kkathman> but you got the right idea
[05:11] <Br0k3ndr3ms> yeah but it got uninstalled with all that other stuff :(
[05:11] <kkathman> Br0k3ndr3ms: say you wanted to look for an nvidia package....you could type   apt-cache search nvidia
[05:11] <kkathman> and it will bring back all the packages that refer to nvidia
[05:12] <Br0k3ndr3ms> esher: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[05:12] <Br0k3ndr3ms> thats what it said
[05:13] <kkathman> Br0k3ndr3ms: adept is probably either (a) still running or (b) open on your desktop
[05:13] <Br0k3ndr3ms> well i dont see it
[05:13] <kkathman> check "top"
[05:13] <kkathman> or ps aux
[05:13] <Br0k3ndr3ms> top?
[05:13] <kkathman> in a console
[05:14] <kkathman> top shows your top 10 or 15 running resources
[05:14] <kkathman> ps  aux shows everything
[05:14] <Br0k3ndr3ms> root      8850  0.3 13.0  64028 33388 ?        Ss   22:21   0:11 adept -icon adept -miniicon adept -caption Adept
[05:15] <kkathman> yep its running
[05:15] <tareq> Hi, I need help with something. I can't play mp3s.
[05:15] <Br0k3ndr3ms> how do i exit it?
[05:16] <bimberi> ubotu tell tareq about mp3
[05:16] <thoreauputic> !mp3
[05:16] <Glin|Jol> Winamp 5.11 paused
[05:16] <ubotu> methinks mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:16] <thoreauputic> bimberi: you win :)
[05:16] <bimberi> thoreauputic: very rare :)
[05:16] <Br0k3ndr3ms> how do i exit it?
[05:17] <kkathman> hey thoreauputic :)
[05:17] <thoreauputic> bimberi: I'm out of practice ;)
[05:17] <thoreauputic> kkathman: hi :)
[05:17] <kkathman> Br0k3ndr3ms: prolly NOT a good thing to kill Adept while its doing its thing
[05:17] <Br0k3ndr3ms> its not still doning  that
[05:18] <Br0k3ndr3ms> i exited it before cause i got scarred
[05:18] <Br0k3ndr3ms>  and then i clicked it again to see if it still worksed
[05:18] <kkathman> well you might have exited the front end, but if ps aux says its running..its probably running
[05:18] <dareboy> how can i change kubuntu to ubuntu
[05:18] <thoreauputic> Br0k3ndr3ms: exiting any apt process e=while it's running will break things
[05:18] <Br0k3ndr3ms> but its not still making changes is it?
[05:19] <Br0k3ndr3ms> yeah i already did...
[05:19] <kkathman> Br0k3ndr3ms: probably
[05:19] <dareboy> HOW CAN I CHANGE KUBUNTU TO UBUNTU
[05:19] <thoreauputic> dareboy: install ubuntu-desktop (that will add ubuntu, not replace it)
[05:19] <thoreauputic> dareboy: don't shout
[05:19] <tareq> ty
[05:19] <tareq> ty for the page
[05:19] <tareq> now to see if it works
[05:19] <bimberi> tareq: np :)
[05:19] <kkathman> then you can uninstall kubuntu-desktop
[05:20] <Br0k3ndr3ms> i think i'm going to reformat
[05:20] <tareq> but why do i have to install gnome :(
[05:20] <thoreauputic> kkathman: ubinstalling kubuntu-desktop won't do anything - it's a metapackage
[05:20] <Br0k3ndr3ms> well i'm going to reformat
[05:20] <Br0k3ndr3ms> bye guys
[05:21] <Br0k3ndr3ms> hey, are there any girls that use linux
[05:21] <Br0k3ndr3ms> ?
[05:21] <thoreauputic> Br0k3ndr3ms: of course
[05:21] <demonjester> my wife :)
[05:21] <Br0k3ndr3ms> i mean many of them lol
[05:22] <kkathman> I would imagine there are a few :)
[05:22] <dareboy> SO WAT DO I DO
[05:22] <kkathman> they are good women for sure :)
[05:22] <bimberi> Br0k3ndr3ms: nah, only demonjester's wife :)
[05:22] <demonjester> lol and she was kicking and screaming the whole install :)
[05:22] <thoreauputic> dareboy: *stop* the caps first
[05:22] <Br0k3ndr3ms> oh well i'll be back tomorrow most likly
[05:23] <Br0k3ndr3ms> bye guys..and girls lol
[05:23] <tareq> too bad there aren't many ogg players around
[05:23] <thoreauputic> dareboy: then look in adept for ubuntu-desktop , or run  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop  in a terminal
[05:23] <dareboy> how di i do it
[05:24] <kkathman> gee dareboy didnt we just tell you
[05:24] <kkathman> please scroll up and see
[05:26] <dareboy> wat do i do after i install
[05:27] <tareq> i installed the plug ins
[05:27] <tareq> i get some decoder error
[05:27] <dareboy> wat do  do after install
[05:28] <dareboy> wat do i do after install
[05:29] <`nauh> hmm i think i broke it
[05:29] <tareq> wait
[05:29] <tareq> i fixed it
[05:29] <tareq> ty
[05:29] <bimberi> dareboy: logout, select gnone from the Sessions menu, login
[05:29] <dareboy> wat do i do
[05:29] <tareq> changed alsaasink to ossink
[05:29] <tareq> ty bimberi
[05:29] <dareboy> wat is session menu
[05:30] <demonjester> dareboy: at the login prompt
[05:30] <bimberi> dareboy: it's part of the login screen
[05:30] <dareboy> when
[05:30] <dareboy> o ok
[05:30] <dareboy> then ?
[05:30] <bimberi> dareboy: sit back and enjoy the brown :P
[05:30] <demonjester> lol
[05:31] <dareboy> k
[05:31] <dareboy> so let me get this right
[05:32] <dareboy> first i download just the thing in the terminal then logout
[05:32] <dareboy> then go to session screen
[05:32] <dareboy> ?
[05:33] <`nauh> something i apt-got broke KDE...
[05:33] <bimberi> dareboy: yes, download and install
[05:33] <dareboy> bimberi is that all i do
[05:33] <kkathman> once you install it, when you log out you'll see gnome and you can sign in using that
[05:33] <dareboy> gnome where?
[05:33] <bimberi> dareboy: yes
[05:34] <kkathman> howdy there bimberi :)
[05:34] <kkathman> sorry I didnt see your responses there :)
[05:34] <demonjester> dareboy: in the session screen
[05:34] <dareboy> kkathman gnome where
[05:34] <bimberi> hey kkathman :) - np
[05:34] <kkathman> yah like demonjester just said
[05:34] <`nauh> have you ever seen 'No write access to '/home/user/.ICEauthority'' before?
[05:35] <kkathman> `nauh: cant say that I have
[05:35] <`nauh> hmmm
[05:35] <`nauh> not even sure what that file is for
[05:35] <`nauh> but KDE refuses to start
[05:35] <bimberi> `nauh: yes - remove it using sudo and retry login
[05:35] <`nauh> o i have 3 of em
[05:35] <`nauh> heh
[05:36] <dareboy> do i have to partition anything
[05:36] <bimberi> bimberi: i think if something runs as root the file becomes owned by root
[05:36] <`nauh> yea, one is owned by root
[05:36] <bimberi> dareboy: ^^^^ (D'Oh)
[05:36] <dareboy> bimberi: wat
[05:37] <`nauh> i understood
[05:37] <`nauh> :b
[05:37] <bimberi> dareboy: sorry, the answer is no
[05:37] <bimberi> dareboy: you will have a single install and you can choose to log into either gnome or kde
[05:39] <`nauh> so has anyone tried messing with vnc?
[05:39] <dareboy> it says select a default display manager should i pick gdm or kdm
[05:40] <demonjester> nauh: no I use NX much faster over slow lines
[05:40] <bimberi> dareboy: either.  did you like kdm (the login screen)?.  if not, try gdm, you can always switch back
[05:40] <khalif> How do I find in KDE which linux kernal I have?
[05:40] <bimberi> khalif: uname -r
[05:40] <khalif> I tried Kinfocenter but it's not in there...
[05:41] <demonjester> khalif: in console type what bimberi said
[05:41] <khalif> Will that also tell me what the path to it is?
[05:41] <`nauh> i havent heard of NX, but i'm on a lan :/
[05:41] <bimberi> `nauh: i've used vnc
[05:41] <khalif> I need to install a patch for a bootsplash...
[05:41] <`nauh> the one installed by apt?
[05:41] <`nauh> bimberi
[05:42] <dareboy> was the terminal thing that u gave for breezy badger
[05:42] <bimberi> `nauh: yes, vncserver (i had problems with vnc4 and tight)
[05:42] <`nauh> bimberi: font problems?
[05:42] <bimberi> `nauh: yep
[05:43] <dareboy> bimberi: was the terminal thing that u ave me for breezy badger
[05:43] <demonjester> nauh: NX or FreeNX from NoMachine
[05:43] <`nauh> bimberi: i c, someone should post a bug report or something :b
[05:43] <`nauh> demonjester: i just looked up the site
[05:43] <bimberi> dareboy: terminal thing?
[05:43] <demonjester> dareboy: are you talking about the apt-get command?
[05:44] <khalif> bimberi: How would I go about finding out which folder stores the source?
[05:44] <dareboy> ya the 1 u gave me
[05:44] <bimberi> khalif: ah, are you compiling something?
[05:44] <demonjester> dareboy: it will work with any version
[05:44] <khalif> YEs, I need to install a patch for a bootsplash...
[05:45] <bimberi> khalif: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[05:45] <`nauh> success!
[05:45] <`nauh> sort of
[05:45] <khalif> Will this require being connected to the net because I don't have a net connection for my Linux box...
[05:47] <`nauh> 'Composite Manager crashed twice within a minute and is therefore disabled for this session...'
[05:47] <`nauh> i hope thats not important...
[05:47] <bimberi> khalif: the headers might be on the CD (not sure) - otherwise you can download via http://packages.ubuntu.com
[05:48] <khalif> thanks! :)
[05:48] <bimberi> `nauh: hm, i don't know, you could try removing .Xauthority as well
[05:48] <bimberi> khalif: np :)
[05:49] <`nauh> well it ran, it just gave me that dialog
[05:55] <khalif> bimberi: I installed the headers, what's next?
[05:59] <khalif> bimberi: still there?
[06:03] <bimberi> khalif: back, retry your compile
[06:05] <khalif> confused. all I've done so far is install the headers. I haven't downloaded the patch yet cause I want to be sure that I'm placing in the right directory.
[06:08] <bimberi> ah, looks like i'm confused then - is this a kernel patch?
[06:09] <bimberi> khalif: you mentioned compiling a driver - that usually just needs the headers, not the whole source
[06:10] <bimberi> khalif: at least i thought you mentioned compiling a driver :)
[06:11] <halcyonCorsair> can someone tell me about katapult?
[06:13] <seth_k|lappy> ubotu tell halcyonCorsair about katapult
[06:13] <ghostsyn> hi i was wondering whether someone can point me in the right direction for finding out info about a problem i am having with samba
[06:14] <ghostsyn> its basically that i have a fileserver setup with samba and everything works well
[06:15] <ghostsyn> but when i try to access the share konquer acts funny and wont let me open things without it copying it to my tmp folder
[06:15] <halcyonCorsair> ok, is there anyone else here who can tell me about katapult?
[06:15] <ghostsyn> i cant even mount the thing properly - anyone have any insights?
[06:17] <khalif> My bad bimberi. I am installing a patch to my kernal so that I can use a bootsplash. I need to find out which folder the kernal source is stored in so that I can make sure that I'm installing the patch in the right place......
[06:20] <khalif> bimberi: I see a folder called boot with some files that are names after my kernal version. Could this folder be where my source is stored?
[06:22] <vblanton> so... how come kubuntu switched to gstreamer?
[06:22] <vblanton> for some reason it doensn't want to play any video files at all in kaffience
[06:22] <morzel> good mooooooooooorrrrrning
[06:23] <vblanton> chances are that kubuntu doesn't come with the sources and you'll have to download them
[06:23] <vblanton>  in /usr/src/linux is where it's held
[06:23] <halcyonCorsair> vblanton: you should still be able to install alternate backends?
[06:24] <khalif> vblanton: How would I go about doing that?
[06:25] <khalif> My bad vblanton: Clicked wrong button! :)
[06:29] <khalif> vblanton: After I find and download source, will I have to compile it and if I do, will it mess up Kubuntu?
[06:29] <bimberi> khalif: back again, yes it will be in /usr/src - note that (k)ubuntu does not install the source by default
[06:30] <vblanton> khalif: no... why do you want to do this anyway?
[06:30] <khalif> Can i use adept to install it or would I have to get it from the net?
[06:30] <khalif> I'm trying to install a bootsplash!
[06:30] <khalif> :)
[06:30] <halcyonCorsair> ubotu: help
[06:30] <vblanton> oh! just a bootsplash..
[06:31] <vblanton> you don't need to recompile the kernel..
[06:31] <vblanton> recompiling is a head ache and you'll probably screw it up
[06:31] <khalif> So what else should I do?
[06:31] <vblanton> khalif: you'll have to compile it and copy the bzImage into your boot directory, then link to it properly from grub so it actually boots into the new kernel
[06:32] <vblanton> and so on and so forth..
[06:32] <vblanton> it'll take a couple hours..
[06:32] <khalif> Will I still need the kernal patch?
[06:32] <vblanton> instead, you should be able to copy a bootsplash bz.image into the /boot directory. check where the original kubuntu boot image is and replace it ;)
[06:33] <vblanton> kubuntu is already built with bootsplash support.. that's why you see the cool kubuntu load up
[06:33] <khalif> lol, how do I find the original image?
[06:35] <vblanton> chcek the /boot/grub.conf
[06:35] <vblanton> and see where it loads from
[06:35] <nrdb> I am trying out OpenOfficeBase, I tried the "table - Use Wizard to create table" button but nothing happened anyone know why?
[06:36] <khalif> I'm in the ok. And I'm looking for bz.image right?
[06:37] <vblanton> im not sure, never did it. just hinting
[06:37] <jhealey> 
[06:37] <khalif> Also I don't see a grub.conf file, but I see a menu.lst file: Is that the same thing vblanton?
[06:37] <bimberi> khalif: this might be what you're looking for - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[06:37] <vblanton> im sure there is a guide online within the ubuntu forums or something
[06:37] <vblanton> ok, bimberi is one step ahead :)
[06:38] <bimberi> vblanton: ha, only half a step :P
[06:38] <khalif> thanks bimberi and vblanton. I'll give it a look see!  :D 
[06:38] <vblanton> goodnight. im outa here!
[06:39] <jhealey> 
[06:40] <TecnoVM64> Hello people, how can i install kde 3.5 without installing kubuntu-desktop? (it gives me a lot of broken packages), i already added the repositories.
[06:41] <nrdb> I am trying out OpenOfficeBase, I tried the "table - Use Wizard to create table" button but nothing happened anyone know why?
[06:46] <TecnoVM64> oh, nvm i got it :).
[07:05] <Delvien> Anyone have alot of experience with Wifi and KDE here?
[07:07] <Delvien> anybody?\
[07:09] <frank23> Well I have some experience
[07:25] <whiskers> wow this room is quiet
[07:26] <DaSkreech> Yeah I know
[07:26] <whiskers> 130 people in here and no one talking, whats up with that
[07:26] <DaSkreech> Everyone playing XBox2?
[07:27] <khalif> Anyone with Kubuntu experience?
[07:27] <whiskers> purrhaps
[07:27] <whiskers> what do you need?
[07:28] <khalif> I'm trying to customize the Kubuntu boot splash screen. I need to find the file that states where the Kubuntu bootsplash image is so i can go into the folder and replace it.
[07:29] <khalif> Any experience with that?
[07:29] <whiskers> sorry no :(
[07:29] <frank23> khalif: usplash
[07:29] <khalif> What's that?
[07:29] <frank23> that's the package that does it. that's all I know
[07:30] <DaSkreech> khalif: Sounds like usplash I think you should find info on the wiki
[07:30] <khalif> ok, thanks!
[07:30] <DaSkreech> khalif: What do you want to replace it with?
[07:30] <whiskers> wiki? is there a nice howto to get a webcam working in there too?
[07:34] <DaSkreech> I think there is What brand Webcam?
[07:34] <whiskers> its a logitech quickcam zoom
[07:35] <whiskers> i read that it uses the philips driver
[07:35] <whiskers> so i got the source downloaded from the package manager, but from there i dont know what to do
[07:36] <DaSkreech> For which Kernel?
[07:36] <whiskers> how do i check
[07:36] <frank23> whiskers: logitech is common: maybe check the ubuntu forums for info
[07:38] <whiskers> :( wish they'd include the driver on the cd
[07:43] <whiskers> hmm
[07:43] <whiskers> mebbe it works already, is there a webcamming program?
[07:44] <DaSkreech> Kopete
[07:46] <whiskers> how do i start up the webcam with kopete?
[07:48] <DaSkreech> Which KDE are you using?
[07:48] <DaSkreech> 3.5 or 3.4?
[07:49] <whiskers> 3.4
[07:49] <DaSkreech> Oh.. Never mind then :)
[07:58] <whiskers> how do you untar a package?
[07:58] <kkathman> depends on the suffix
[07:58] <whiskers> sudo tar -jxvf pwc-source.tar.gz
[07:59] <kkathman> if the suffix is gz or tgz  use   tar xvzf <tarfile>
[07:59] <kkathman> dont need sudo
[07:59] <whiskers> its a tar.gz
[07:59] <kkathman> then my syntax as listed
[07:59] <whiskers> ok 
[07:59] <kkathman> xvjf is for bz2 files
[07:59] <whiskers> ty
[08:00] <kkathman> my pleasure
[08:04] <whiskers> ok i have teh source untarred
[08:04] <kkathman> im sorry Im not sure what you are doing...?? been in and out :)
[08:04] <whiskers> im trying to install drivers for my webcam
[08:04] <whiskers> i have the source downloaded
[08:04] <whiskers> and just untared the file
[08:05] <Flammia> 'morning, everyone
[08:05] <whiskers> and it has .c and .h files
[08:05] <whiskers> and one called Makefile
[08:05] <whiskers> morning Flammia 
[08:05] <kkathman> ok so you have untarred it
[08:05] <kkathman> it probably put it in a directory 
[08:05] <kkathman> look in that directory and see if there is a file called "configure"
[08:06] <whiskers> there isnt one
[08:06] <kkathman> is there a file called autogen.sh ?
[08:07] <whiskers> a Makefile, and .c files, and a .h and a folder called debian
[08:07] <kkathman> hmm
[08:07] <kkathman> odd
[08:07] <kkathman> where did you get the file?
[08:07] <whiskers> the debian folder has control, control.modules.in  and folder called postin, and one called rules
[08:07] <whiskers> it was in the ubuntu pool
[08:08] <kkathman> typically you have to ./configure,  make and make install
[08:08] <whiskers> pwc driver
[08:08] <kkathman> but in the main folder...only make?
[08:08] <Flammia> I am absolutely no help right now... never installed a driver for Linux
[08:09] <Flammia> maybe make is the only one he needs... it could be an easier version
[08:09] <kkathman> well I guess from that directory you could try a  sudo make install...see what happens
[08:09] <whiskers> Makefile is run how?
[08:09] <kkathman> Im a bit at a loss too
[08:09] <kkathman> try just doing a make, then a sudo make install
[08:09] <Flammia> sudo ./makefile
[08:09] <kkathman> no ./
[08:10] <kkathman> I dunno
[08:10] <Flammia> okay
[08:10] <kkathman> could try make...see what happens
[08:10] <kkathman> then sudo make install
[08:10] <kkathman> shrug..dunno
[08:10] <whiskers> hmm, none of those works
[08:11] <kkathman> odd
[08:11] <kkathman> Im out
[08:11] <kkathman> lol
[08:11] <kkathman> no idea
[08:13] <Flammia> do ither of you torrent??
[08:15] <whiskers> brb
[08:17] <Flammia> kathman??
[08:23] <khalif> hey I got one more question if anyone could help. 
[08:24] <khalif> I'm trying to transfer some files from my iMac to my laptop running Kubuntu using my USB pen drive.
[08:24] <Flammia> well... good luck finding someone who can help :P
[08:25] <khalif> Everytime i plug it into my usb port I get an error message saying that "media/sda4" doesn't exist. 
[08:26] <kkathman> yes?
[08:26] <khalif> I've got my pen drive formatted as UNIX File System so why won't Kubuntu recognize it?
[08:26] <DaSkreech> Ask ask how else you gonna learn?
[08:26] <kkathman> sorry was busy...wassup?
[08:26] <khalif> I'm trying to transfer some files from my iMac to my laptop running Kubuntu using my USB pen drive. Everytime i plug it into my usb port I get an error message saying that "media/sda4" doesn't exist. I've got my pen drive formatted as UNIX File System so why won't Kubuntu recognize it?
[08:27] <kkathman> I learned a little just now about that makefile thing...gotta have the gnome-doc-tools installed :)
[08:28] <Flammia> he's already gone, though...
[08:29] <Flammia> oh, I was just wondering what torrenting client is best for KDE
[08:30] <DaSkreech> azuerues :-)
[08:30] <kkathman> Flammia: there are a few
[08:30] <kkathman> one comes with kubuntu tho
[08:30] <Flammia> really??
[08:30] <DaSkreech> khalif: You've used this USB pen drive with  this machine before?
[08:30] <kkathman> but I have heard its a bit rusty
[08:31] <Flammia> maybe I should use that, then... none of my torrents are starting through Azure
[08:31] <kkathman> Flammia: look under k-menu, Internet...look for bittorrent
[08:31] <kkathman> I think its kbittorrent or something like that
[08:31] <Flammia> not there...
[08:32] <Flammia> I thought I had seen it there before, but couldn't find it so I dled azureus
[08:32] <khalif> Nope never used it before DaSkreech
[08:32] <DaSkreech> khalif: Can you check if there is a /dev/sda4?
[08:32] <Flammia> I'll try locate-ing it
[08:33] <khalif> let me see...
[08:33] <Flammia> got nothing...
[08:33] <Flammia> maybe I should try adepting it??
[08:41] <Flammia> hey Hobbsee
[08:45] <Hobbsee> hey Flammia 
[08:46] <Flammia> how's life down under??
[08:51] <Hobbsee> oh yeah, fun, been moving furniture around
[08:51] <DaSkreech> hMM I wonder if khalif's kubuntu box is in the same house
[08:52] <Flammia> lol... sounds exciting
[08:52] <Flammia> hey... think you can help me with a small problem??
[08:52] <khalif> lol! Yes it is. I don't have an Ethernet port on it so I do my internet stuff on my iMac.... :)
[08:53] <Hobbsee> possibly, ask the question first
[08:53] <DaSkreech> Ah :)
[08:54] <Flammia> well, I'm having difficulty torrenting... and I don't know what can cause these sorts of thing in linux
[08:54] <Flammia> I can connect the tracker, and a few of my peers, but nothing ever downloads
[08:55] <Flammia> what!
[08:55] <Flammia> but it's so... useful...
[08:55] <Hobbsee> never had a reason to, apart from distro cds, i guess
[08:56] <Flammia> maybe it's an "Australian" thing
[08:56] <Hobbsee> nah, i doubt it
[08:56] <Hobbsee> distro cd's i could torrent
[08:56] <Flammia> you've never felt like downloading something retardedly huge before??
[08:56] <Flammia> like a television series??
[08:57] <Flammia> or a DVD image??
[08:57] <Hobbsee> but i usually end up downloading off a fast, local mirror (telstra.com), or i'll download a cd that most people arent using, like a daily cd, so there wouldnt be many torrents anyway
[08:58] <Hobbsee> nope - i hardly watch tv lol
[08:58] <Flammia> nor do I... that's why I have to torrent it :P
[08:58] <Hobbsee> and for any Very Big Files that i want to get, prozilla is very effective
[08:58] <Flammia> prozilla??
[08:58] <Hobbsee> yep
[08:59] <Flammia> which is... ??
[08:59] <Hobbsee> !prozilla
[08:59] <ubotu> prozilla is, like, totally, a download accelerator for linux.  It is available at http://prozilla.genesys.ro/
[08:59] <Hobbsee> it's a compile job, but it works a charm
[09:00] <Flammia> download accelerator??
[09:00] <Flammia> how the hell does that work
[09:01] <Flammia> I wish more people were active in this channel...
[09:01] <Hobbsee> you've never come across download accelerators?
[09:03] <Flammia> nope
[09:03] <DaSkreech> Flammia: it allows you to download a single file from multiple servers at the same time
[09:03] <Flammia> I always figured it was just some attempt to put spyware on my fragile Windows system
[09:03] <DaSkreech> So you can add up the bandwidth till your modem applies for UN help for cruelty
[09:03] <Hobbsee> Flammia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Download_manager
[09:03] <Flammia> cool
[09:04] <Hobbsee> freedownloadmanager.org's not bad for windows systems
[09:04] <Flammia> problem is, I don't have any large files I want to download straight... all of them are kept in torrent form, because no server wants to risk the bandwidth
[09:05] <Hobbsee> true
[09:06] <DaSkreech> I forget what was the question?
[09:06] <Flammia> how can I fix my life so that torrents work on my kubuntu box??
[09:06] <Hobbsee> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Download_manager
[09:06] <Hobbsee> oops, sorry
[09:07] <DaSkreech> Heehee
[09:07] <Flammia> lol
[09:07] <Flammia> nice copy/paste action
[09:07] <DaSkreech> Bit of an evangelist eh?
[09:07] <Hobbsee> well, i copied what you said above, and was about to paste it, then found when i hit enter that id' gotten the wrong link
[09:07] <Hobbsee> [18:54]  <Flammia> well, I'm having difficulty torrenting... and I don't know what can cause these sorts of thing in linux
[09:07] <Hobbsee> [18:54]  <Flammia> I can connect the tracker, and a few of my peers, but nothing ever downloads
[09:08] <Hobbsee> there we go!
[09:08] <Flammia> I want to turn off that annoying Klipboard thing, too :P
[09:08] <Flammia> thank you for repeating myself, Hobbsee
[09:08] <Hobbsee> hehe
[09:08] <Flammia> saves me the trouble
[09:08] <Hobbsee> Flammia: right click on it, exit, say you dotn want it to start at startup
[09:08] <Flammia> you are my hero
[09:09] <Hobbsee> no problems :)
[09:09] <DaSkreech> http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=26353
[09:09] <Flammia> I have ktorrent
[09:10] <DaSkreech> Oh
[09:10] <DaSkreech> ok
[09:10] <Flammia> and azureus
[09:10] <Flammia> neither of them are working :S
[09:10] <DaSkreech> Is it just that torrent or all torrent's don't download?
[09:11] <Flammia> I've tried 2
[09:11] <DaSkreech> Do you have a firewall up?
[09:11] <DaSkreech> That would include a router with NAT
[09:11] <Flammia> does Kubuntu have one built in??
[09:11] <Flammia> no router... just a hub
[09:11] <Flammia> and I can torrent fine from my other box
[09:12] <DaSkreech> ok
[09:12] <DaSkreech> So ports blocked seems out of it
[09:12] <Flammia> although, let me check...
[09:12] <Flammia> I think I've got that one running on port 50000
[09:14] <Flammia> nope... the port passes tests
[09:14] <DaSkreech> So you get zip from the Download or just slow speeds?
[09:15] <Flammia> nothing at all
[09:16] <Flammia> though one of the torrents report connection to 14 peers, nothing is being transferred
[09:16] <Flammia> scratch that... they both see peers
[09:16] <Flammia> and neither transfer anything
[09:16] <DaSkreech> for both programs?
[09:16] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[09:16] <DaSkreech> I normally do torrents from the command line
[09:17] <Flammia> I could try that
[09:17] <DaSkreech> Do they have output windows or debug info?
[09:17] <Flammia> wouldn't be too much of a problem... I just don't know how
[09:17] <Flammia> no errors are coming up, if that's what you mean
[09:17] <DaSkreech> ok
[09:19] <Flammia> so does Kubuntu have a built-in firewall??
[09:22] <DaSkreech> Flammia: Sorry it's near 0400 here
[09:22] <DaSkreech> Head's shutting down
[09:22] <DaSkreech> no 
[09:22] <DaSkreech> You could still have a NAT network and have issues
[09:23] <Flammia> told ya... nothing outsde the computer is blocking it
[09:23] <Flammia> unless the trackers are racist against Linux
[09:23] <DaSkreech> You say that you only have a hub though so I doubt it
[09:23] <Flammia> and I know what you mean... it's 0330 here
[09:24] <DaSkreech> See you tomorrow then? :)
[09:25] <Flammia> oh yeah... I have tomorrow off :D
[09:25] <Flammia> sweet
[09:25] <DaSkreech> :-)
[09:25] <DaSkreech> Night
[09:25] <Flammia> 'night
[09:26] <Flammia> I'll keep working on these... I want them to run while I sleep
[10:15] <antti> i just installed kubuntu in my comp and i want to ask, is there drivers for geforce 6600gt or should i download tem?
[10:15] <antti> them*
[10:16] <poningru> !nvidia
[10:16] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[10:16] <poningru> antti: did you get that?
[10:25] <antti> oh poningru thank you SO much, you just saved my hope with linux
[10:26] <poningru> hehe cool :)
[10:37] <BlueDevil> does double click interval work for anybody? (using breezy x86)
[10:50] <freelove> i dont hear sounds in gaim....plz help!
[10:50] <freelove> plus kde 3.5 panel seems to crash on logging out.........
[10:56] <dennis-> hey folks, can anyone give me a pointer on how to install kubuntu from a usb stick?
[11:01] <freelove> no one is here it seems:(
[11:05] <poningru> !installation
[11:05] <ubotu> poningru: I don't know, could you explain it?
[11:06] <poningru> dennis-: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/FromUSBStick
[11:11] <dennis-> thx poningru!
[11:14] <os2mac> poningru that is cool... can you do it with the live version?
[11:15] <poningru> os2mac: yeah ofcourse
[11:15] <poningru> the problem is not many computers allow you to boot from usb
[11:15] <poningru> most modern computers do
[11:15] <poningru> but if your computer is more than 2 years old
[11:15] <poningru> it most likely will not
[11:15] <poningru> 2-3 years old
[11:16] <os2mac> this would be a cool forensics/diagnostic tool.
[11:28] <dennis-> os2mac: well, live cds are imo better, because they're read only
[11:35] <bmayolg> Hi to all
[11:36] <th3l4sts4mur41> !bootsplash
[11:36] <ubotu> th3l4sts4mur41: I haven't a clue
[11:36] <bmayolg> someone been trying to install gstreamer-mad from universe lately?
[11:42] <bmayolg> it seems that gstreamer-mad package is broken in universe, but i am not sure
[11:42] <_antti> how i can lpay cd:s on kubuntu?
[11:43] <_antti> i hear other sounds of the kubuntu but not the song
[11:45] <ninHer> hi all
[11:45] <bmayolg> hi
[11:45] <bmayolg> _Antti which program do you use?
[11:47] <_antti> kscd
[11:48] <bmayolg> if you open the preferences in KSCD under the extras TAb
[11:49] <bmayolg> look at the path of the cdrom unit
[11:49] <_antti> ok
[11:49] <nrdb> I would like to install the latest Open Office, I downloaded "OOo_2.0.0_LinuxIntel_install.tar.gz" but it only has RPM files in it, is there a different file I was meant to download or what?
[11:50] <bmayolg> nrdb you better search for a debian package (.deb)
[11:50] <bmayolg> .rpm are packages for other distributions
[11:50] <bmayolg> also, on the latest kubuntu Oo2 is installed
[11:50] <_antti> ok it's in media:/hdd
[11:50] <bmayolg> try /dev/cdrom
[11:50] <_antti> at console?
[11:51] <bmayolg> no in the path
[11:51] <_antti> ok
[11:51] <bmayolg> if you look at it, now says that the cd is your hard disk
[11:52] <_antti> there is files /dev/cdrom and /dev/cdrom1
[11:53] <_antti> and it's linked at hdd
[11:53] <bmayolg> mmm strange
[11:53] <bmayolg> if you try only /dev/cdrom and apply what happens?
[11:55] <_antti> if i double click that /dev/cdrom it says open with program and gives the list 
[11:57] <bmayolg> ok, let's say that you write on the path window: /dev/cdrom and you aply
[11:57] <_antti> aply?
[11:57] <_antti> i'm bad at english sry
[11:57] <bmayolg> and al look at the audio engine: arts?
[11:58] <bmayolg> apply, sorry
[11:58] <bmayolg> probably your machine has two cdrom?
[11:58] <_antti> yes
[11:59] <_antti> a cd and a dvd
[11:59] <bmayolg> ok, so you have to tell KsCd the path to your cdrom
[11:59] <_antti> it plays the songs
[11:59] <_antti> i just can't hear anything
[11:59] <bmayolg> ok, and the audio engine is?
[12:00] <bmayolg> only one more thing
[12:00] <bmayolg> when you type in the path /dev/cdrom, what happens?
[12:01] <_antti> nothing
[12:01] <bmayolg> then let's try /dev/cdrom
[12:01] <bmayolg> then let's try /dev/cdrom1
[12:01] <bmayolg> just in case
[12:01] <_antti> ok
[12:02] <_antti> nothing happens
[12:02] <bmayolg> ok after typing that, you click on ok and restart the application?
[12:02] <_antti> if i do dev/cdrom1 it gives me the same thing
[12:03] <bmayolg> be sure you type /dev/cdrom and not dev/cdrom
[12:06] <_antti> if i do that it gives me empty page
[12:07] <bmayolg> really I cannot think of another thing
[12:07] <bmayolg> sorry, let's see if others can help
[12:07] <_antti> ok
[12:07] <_antti> np
[12:07] <_antti> ty for trying
[12:08] <_antti> btw i try to log in as su
[12:08] <_antti> and it says authentication failure
[12:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell _antti about root
[12:09] <bmayolg> yes, as far as I know there is no root in Ubuntu as such
[12:09] <bmayolg> in Ubuntu there is a difference with others linux distro
[12:09] <freelove> i dont hear sounds in gaim....plz help!
[12:09] <freelove> plus kde 3.5 panel seems to crash on logging out.........
[12:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> freelove: check it's using the right sound server (cant help though, sorry)
[12:10] <bmayolg> Antti if you take a look at the faqs on ubuntu you will see the differences in root
[12:11] <bmayolg> Any f you tried lately installing gstreamer mad from universe?
[12:11] <_antti> sudo chown bob
[12:11] <_antti> is that command to login?
[12:11] <bmayolg> nope
[12:11] <bmayolg> exactly what do ou try to do?
[12:12] <_antti> install enemy territory in my  comp
[12:12] <_antti> :P
[12:12] <bmayolg> :D
[12:12] <_antti> i made it with SUSE
[12:12] <_antti> but now i'm just lost
[12:13] <bmayolg> yes because in Suse you have a root account as such
[12:13] <_antti> yea
[12:13] <_antti> u have axperience with installing ET at kubuntu?
[12:13] <_antti> experience*
[12:13] <bmayolg> no, it was a long time ago and don't remember
[12:13] <_antti> damn
[12:13] <bmayolg> but sure if you search at google
[12:13] <bmayolg> you know....:D
[12:14] <bmayolg> ET is GREATTT
[12:14] <_antti> like words installing enemy territory at kubuntu?
[12:14] <freelove> Kamping_Kaiser: once it told me that artsd is not configured properly?
[12:14] <bmayolg> and sure a lot of people tried
[12:14] <freelove> Kamping_Kaiser: but i can listen to songs!
[12:14] <bmayolg> yep
[12:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> freelove: i don't know KDE, i just think your sounds not set up right. probably gaim not set to use arts
[12:15] <bmayolg> any of you know of a free email taht lets you pop3 connections? I am not interested in webmail
[12:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> qpopper?
[12:17] <bmayolg> will take a look
[12:17] <bmayolg> see you all
[12:17] <bmayolg> bye
[12:18] <jaro> hi all
[12:18] <_antti> hi
[12:18] <jaro> I installed Thunderbird via Apt
[12:18] <jaro> where was it installed ?
[12:18] <jaro> whereis won't tell a thing
[12:24] <dipnlik> hi all. i was playing with the K Menu Editor but now I think my menu is kinda fscked up. the internet menu disappeared for example. is it possible to reset this to defaults?
[12:24] <_jim> ok stupid unix question... how do you mount a samba share?
[12:32] <cowpat1989> can someone send me the compiled rtl8180 drivers if possible
[12:32] <cowpat1989> i use breezy badger version
[12:47] <khalif> How can I find out what filesystems are enabled for 5.10?
[12:47] <khalif> I tried looking in the wiki, but there was no info.
[12:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> cat /proc/filesystems IIRC
[01:00] <bdmp> I mounted a hard drive but now I can't mount as a user. What do I have to put in the mount command to make it read and write for everyone. This is not an fstab problem
[01:01] <devilz_> hi does anyone know how to set window decoration
[01:01] <devilz_> ?
[01:02] <BetawiBoyz> does anyone have conexant hsf modem driver for kubuntu 
[01:04] <bdmp> I'm sorry I messed up the post above, it is "I mounted a hard drive and now I cannot read and write as a user" ,not "I mounted a hard drive but now I can't mount as a user."
[01:06] <poningru> bdmp: you have to mount it to a place that the user has permission to use
[01:06] <poningru> where did you mount it?
[01:06] <bdmp> can't I put permissions in the mount?
[01:07] <poningru> you can only give permission regarding read or write 
[01:07] <poningru> not which user
[01:07] <bdmp> /dev/hdb1 /media/120baby
[01:07] <bdmp> that is fine
[01:07] <bdmp> I just want anyone to beable to write
[01:07] <bdmp> it reads acutally, I just messed that up in the explanation
[01:08] <poningru> just chmod 777 /dev/hdb1 
[01:08] <poningru> err
[01:08] <bdmp> cool
[01:08] <viviersf> no man
[01:08] <bdmp> thanks
[01:08] <bdmp> ooh
[01:08] <viviersf> it wont work
[01:08] <poningru> just chmod 777 /media/120baby
[01:08] <poningru> yeah not the dev
[01:08] <poningru> the media
[01:08] <bdmp> ok
[01:08] <bdmp> cool
[01:09] <poningru> viviersf: why wont it work?
[01:09] <viviersf> it wont work
[01:09] <viviersf> cos the media is mounted Read only
[01:09] <poningru> no he said he mounted it rw
[01:09] <BetawiBoyz> does anyone have conexant hsf modem driver for kubuntu 
[01:09] <viviersf> hmmmm
[01:09] <poningru> bdmp: right you mounted it -o rw right?
[01:09] <bdmp> I don't think I mounted read write
[01:10] <viviersf> BetawiBoyz, www.linuxant.com
[01:10] <poningru> wtf then thats the prob
[01:10] <bdmp> I did a plain vanilla mount
[01:10] <viviersf> poningru, ;)
[01:10] <bdmp> I don't know how to mount any other flavors, so that's what I was trying to ask
[01:10] <poningru> oh sorry dude
[01:10] <bdmp> thanks for your help
[01:10] <BetawiBoyz> viviersf: :) for free driver it's only 14 kbps speed
[01:11] <poningru> bdmp: just when you mount go -w
[01:11] <poningru> as in an option
[01:11] <bdmp> ok
[01:11] <viviersf> BetawiBoyz, yep :)
[01:12] <poningru> seriously though why are you trying to do this it should have automounted everything
[01:12] <bdmp> I edited fstab
[01:12] <bdmp> but I haven't restarted after the reinstall and i just wanted to learn how
[01:12] <poningru> oh you dont have to restart
[01:13] <bdmp> thats confusing
[01:13] <bdmp> sorry
[01:13] <bdmp> I mean
[01:13] <poningru> just mount -a iirc
[01:13] <BetawiBoyz> can you imagine how much time i spend for download new kubuntu release with 14 kbps :P
[01:13] <bdmp> I installed, mounted, edited fstab and then I asked you the question. It didn't mount with fstab because it hasn't been restarted yet
[01:14] <viviersf> BetawiBoyz, your fault you use a winmodem ;P
[01:15] <poningru> BetawiBoyz: where do you live dude?
[01:15] <poningru> cause atleast in the US you can get new modems for under 5USD
[01:15] <BetawiBoyz> poningru: Indonesia
[01:16] <BetawiBoyz> any girl here
[01:16] <BetawiBoyz> heuehuehe
[01:16] <BetawiBoyz> viviersf are you a girl
[01:16] <poningru> wrong place to ask
[01:16] <BetawiBoyz> ;)
[01:16] <viviersf> raaait dude
[01:16] <poningru> a linux user support channel? dont think so
[01:16] <BetawiBoyz> sory
[01:16] <poningru> bdmp: did that command work?
[01:17] <bdmp> yeah...
[01:17] <devilz_> hi does anyone know how to set window decoration
[01:17] <poningru> devilz_: what do you mean?
[01:17] <viviersf> hmmm
[01:17] <viviersf> devilz_, alt+f2 then run kcontrol
[01:17] <devilz_> well i want to set http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=31447&file1=31447-1.png&file2=31447-2.png&file3=31447-3.png&name=deKorator
[01:18] <devilz_> this window decoration
[01:18] <devilz_> and i downloaded the file, extracted, configured, installed
[01:18] <devilz_> set buttons, etc
[01:18] <devilz_> but i dont get it like he has
[01:18] <viviersf> and you set kde to use it ?
[01:19] <devilz_> ?
[01:19] <devilz_> dunno
[01:19] <viviersf> lol
[01:19] <devilz_> i just made like he has on the screenshot ;)
[01:19] <viviersf> alt+f2 : kcontrol
[01:19] <devilz_> yes i am there
[01:19] <viviersf> go to window decorations
[01:19] <viviersf> and select it
[01:19] <devilz_> i told you i did
[01:20] <viviersf> lemme check
[01:20] <viviersf> gimme link to download 
[01:21] <viviersf> plz
[01:21] <devilz_> http://www.kde-look.org/content/download.php?content=31447&id=1
[01:22] <devilz_> you here everything here http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=31447
[01:23] <devilz_> viviersf, can i send you my screenshot
[01:23] <devilz_> you will see how i have it
[01:24] <viviersf> k
[01:24] <viviersf> cos im not compiling
[01:24] <viviersf> cant download 20mb stuff  now
[01:24] <viviersf> :/
[01:25] <viviersf> send again
[01:25] <viviersf> hmmm
[01:25] <viviersf> wth
[01:25] <devilz_> damn
[01:25] <viviersf> hold
[01:26] <viviersf> k send
[01:26] <viviersf> it will work now
[01:27] <devilz_> 4kb/s
[01:27] <devilz_> thats lame
[01:29] <viviersf> youo got slow internet
[01:29] <devilz_> lol no
[01:29] <devilz_> i have 10mbit connection
[01:29] <devilz_> and 1mbit upload
[01:30] <viviersf> hah
[01:30] <viviersf> i can see the problem
[01:30] <viviersf> dekorator isnt a full theme
[01:30] <viviersf> its a themeble window decoration
[01:30] <viviersf> so 
[01:30] <viviersf> you have to get the correspoding theme for it
[01:31] <devilz_> can you tell me where can i get it
[01:31] <viviersf> like look here : 
[01:31] <viviersf> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=31872
[01:31] <viviersf> its a dekorator theme
[01:33] <devilz_> hm
[01:33] <devilz_> can i get for this http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=3&id=31447&file1=31447-1.png&file2=31447-2.png&file3=31447-3.png&name=deKorator
[01:33] <viviersf> yes
[01:34] <devilz_> whre
[01:34] <devilz_> where
[01:35] <nxv__> hi i have an wav recorded here and don't know how to cope with audio files on linux. how can i do noise reduction on this file?
[01:37] <devilz_> viviersf, this link you gave me
[01:37] <devilz_> its working fine
[01:38] <devilz_> just need to find where to get for my thing
[01:39] <viviersf> yep
[01:39] <viviersf> browse around on kdelook
[01:40] <devilz_> dunno what to search
[01:41] <devilz_> or this
[01:41] <devilz_> http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=25668&file1=25668-1.jpg&file2=&file3=&name=Crystal+Clear
[01:42] <devilz_> even nicer decoration
[01:42] <devilz_> but its not online to download it
[01:42] <devilz_> just icons
[01:45] <viviersf> devilz_, i had that one
[01:45] <viviersf> its linspires window deco
[01:45] <viviersf> had a .deb
[01:45] <viviersf> lemme check quick for you
[01:46] <devilz_> oh thank you
[01:47] <viviersf> soz i dont have it
[01:47] <devilz_> i found it
[01:47] <viviersf> lol k
[01:47] <devilz_> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=31816
[01:57] <devilz_> viviersf, still here?
[01:59] <viviersf> ya
[01:59] <devilz_> http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=25668&file1=25668-1.jpg&file2=&file3=&name=Crystal+Clear
[02:00] <devilz_> how can i change toolbar
[02:00] <devilz_> i mean
[02:00] <devilz_> taskbar
[02:03] <BlueEagle> I am having trouble getting glxgears to run w/o vblank.
[02:04] <BlueEagle> Running linux-image-2.6.12-10-686, linux-restricted-modules-686 and nvidia-glx 76.67 iirc
[02:15] <_jaro> hey you guys
[02:15] <viviersf> devilz_, its a applet for kicker called kbfx or sumthing
[02:15] <_jaro> i need to get the right driver for my graphic card
[02:16] <_jaro> its a via Unichrome S3
[02:16] <viviersf> yuck
[02:16] <_jaro> so i go to the via site.. and get a selection of different linux-systems
[02:16] <_jaro> but there is neither debian nor ubuntu in it
[02:16] <viviersf> lol
[02:16] <viviersf> it should be ni the ubuntu repositories
[02:16] <_jaro> and only one without distro but only for XFree
[02:16] <viviersf> +
[02:17] <_jaro> how would it be called then?
[02:17] <viviersf> well your card will work
[02:17] <viviersf> via / s3 / vesa 
[02:17] <viviersf> one of those drivers will work\
[02:17] <_jaro> right now i have to use vesa driver
[02:18] <_jaro> because if i use the standard via driver... the screen goes black whenever i switch to a terminal for example
[02:18] <_jaro> with Ctrl-Alt-1
[02:18] <_jaro> for example
[02:18] <viviersf> why dont you want to use vesa ?
[02:19] <_jaro> because i need 3D support
[02:19] <_jaro> which i havent got with vesa
[02:19] <_jaro> i want to play War3 on Linux
[02:20] <_jaro> there is no New via/vesa/s3 driver available in my reposes
[02:21] <_jaro> Linux XFree86 (Not distribution-specific)
[02:21] <_jaro> Fedora Core 3.0 Linux
[02:21] <_jaro> Fedora Core 1.0, 2.0 & 4.0 Linux
[02:21] <_jaro> Mandrake / Mandriva Linux
[02:21] <_jaro> Red Flag Linux
[02:21] <_jaro> Red Hat Linux
[02:21] <_jaro> SuSE Linux
[02:21] <_jaro> thats the selection ive got
[02:21] <_jaro> which one is appropriate for ubuntu ?
[02:22] <crimsun> which model unichrome
[02:22] <devilz_> viviersf, can you show me your desktop
[02:22] <_jaro> wait
[02:22] <_jaro> pls
[02:23] <th3l4sts4mur41> !xorg
[02:26] <_jaro> S3G Graphics KM400/KN400 Display Driver V.6.14.10.0055
[02:27] <_jaro> @crimsun
[02:28] <crimsun> provides support for Via/S3 CLE266/KM400/K8M800/UniChrome cards
[02:28] <crimsun> Package: xserver-xorg-driver-via
[02:28] <_jaro> ive got that package already
[02:29] <dutch> morning crimsun :)
[02:29] <_jaro> or maybe there is a new version ?
[02:31] <_jaro> i have got version 6.8.2-77
[02:31] <crimsun> 'morning james
[02:31] <crimsun> _jaro: I don't know of anything newer. Have you looked in xorg cvs?
[02:32] <_jaro> where can i find xorg cvs ?
[02:33] <devilz_> i dont understand something
[02:33] <devilz_> in some package it says i need to ./configure
[02:33] <devilz_> and make & make install
[02:33] <devilz_> but it says bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[02:34] <_jaro> i got that too one time
[02:34] <devilz_> http://linuxcult.com/crystal/icons/clear-style.linspire0.1.tar.gz
[02:34] <devilz_> this is url
[02:34] <devilz_> ;)
[02:35] <_jaro> ah linspire
[02:35] <nalioth> devilz_: do you have "build-essential" installed?
[02:35] <devilz_> yes
[02:35] <chx> if I detached a tab from Konsole... how could I reattach it?
[02:36] <nalioth> devilz_: there is usually a README or INSTALL to read in the tarball
[02:36] <devilz_> i did
[02:36] <devilz_> read
[02:36] <devilz_> and it says ./configure
[02:36] <devilz_> ;)
[02:37] <nalioth> devilz_: IS there a configure script in the tarball?
[02:38] <devilz_> config.h.in
[02:38] <devilz_> configure.files
[02:38] <devilz_> configure.in.in
[02:38] <devilz_> those are configure files
[02:38] <devilz_> download the package
[02:39] <nalioth> devilz_: is there an "autogen.sh" in there?
[02:39] <devilz_> no
[02:39] <khalif> Has anyone had any problems mounting usb flash drives?
[02:39] <nalioth> devilz_: then it seems your readme is out of sync with the tarball
[02:40] <devilz_> http://linuxcult.com/crystal/icons/clear-style.linspire0.1.tar.gz
[02:40] <devilz_> it shouldnt be
[02:40] <devilz_> how can i install this now
[02:56] <devilz_> have anyone used Crystal Clear window decoration, style, icons ,etc?
[02:58] <nalioth> devilz_: i dont use themes/icons, sorry
[02:59] <bdmp> I am trying to save a file through a program dialog to a windows computer but I don't know the path through the file system
[03:00] <bdmp> for example if I was going to save to another hard drive I would go to /media/mydrive, what about a network?
[03:02] <laszlok> bdmp: do you have samba set up?
[03:02] <bdmp> yea
[03:02] <laszlok> in konqueror you can type smb://
[03:02] <bdmp> yeah but it is a program dialog so I can't type that in
[03:03] <bdmp> I have to click from folder to folder
[03:03] <bdmp> so is there a place that it is "mounted" or something?
[03:03] <laszlok> you have to mount a network drive, like mapping drives in windows
[03:04] <th3l4sts4mur41> !dvd
[03:04] <bdmp> ok 
[03:05] <_stefan> hello everyone
[03:06] <_stefan> i like to update my kde to 3.5 can someone help me
[03:07] <_stefan> ??????????????
[03:15] <devilz_> how can i change kde taskbar to other colors/style
[03:19] <reagleBRKLN> When i copy a large file, my whole system crawls. Yes, dma is turned on. Any suggestions or is this normal for a cp or kio_file to dominate the resources?
[03:31] <aeon17x> What's the name of the KDE menu editor?
[03:40] <bl3ssing> how can I format my sda1 and sda2 usb device? I have a flash memory usb!
[03:51] <bl3ssing> how can I format in linux [kubuntu]  my flash memory  stick? 
[03:54] <devilz_> !kbfx
[03:55] <jaro> did anyone of you install cedega ??
[03:58] <devilz_> where can i find Synaptic/Kynaptic
[04:00] <jjesse> kynaptic has been replaced w/ Adept
[04:01] <jjesse> for installing packages 
[04:01] <jjesse> k menu -> System -> Package Manager (Adept)
[04:01] <bl3ssing> how can I format in linux [kubuntu]  my flash memory  stick? 
[04:01] <jaro> oh are you sure about kynaptic?
[04:02] <jaro> because i still use it
[04:02] <aeon17x> Uh, where is the volume control?
[04:03] <bl3ssing> can anybody help me? 
[04:03] <bl3ssing> how can I format in linux [kubuntu]  my flash memory  stick? 
[04:03] <devilz_> jjesse, and where is Adept
[04:03] <devilz_> ah np
[04:03] <devilz_> found it
[04:04] <jaro> hm adept looks ugly
[04:04] <jaro> like some gnome thing
[04:04] <bl3ssing> jaro, you're right, but it is very usefull ... comparing with the XP.
[04:05] <bl3ssing> and I think that is the main purpose of it: to get our job more easier than ...
[04:05] <bl3ssing> WinXo
[04:05] <bl3ssing> P
[04:05] <devilz_> btw how come i dont have kdevelop and kdevelop3-dev
[04:05] <devilz_> in adept
[04:06] <jaro> hm but i like kynaptic more in that way
[04:06] <poningru> bl3ssing: what do you want to do?
[04:06] <poningru> I guess leave
[04:07] <devilz_> omg how much thing to do
[04:07] <devilz_> for stupid kbfx
[04:07] <fenoamby> hello, i ve juste install TurboPrint for my Canon i865 and my HP Laserjet 1100 but i can't print test page 
[04:07] <devilz_> many
[04:08] <fenoamby> and before this install, i m unable to print with the Laserjet 
[04:09] <Kibou> are the new nvidia drivers gonna be in the repos soon or should I install them manually?
[04:09] <devilz_> !sources
[04:09] <fenoamby> hello, i ve juste install TurboPrint for my Canon i865 and my HP Laserjet 1100 but i can't print test page 
[04:09] <fenoamby> and before this install, i m unable to print with the Laserjet 
[04:09] <devilz_> stupid bot where is he now
[04:35] <Fleischlego> Hi.
[04:36] <RATTrigger> who is the chieftan of this tribe?
[04:39] <jaro> yes ive got it
[04:39] <jaro> LOCATE
[04:39] <jaro> to actually LOCATE programs
[04:45] <BlueEagle> Well, this is rather nice. KDE will transparantly load and save files from/to ftp servers. :)
[04:47] <BlueEagle> Now, if I could only get Quanta to show the contents of the FTP folder in the Files Tree I would be a happy man.
[04:48] <zajacslv> hi my problem is: i cannot open folders in other windows even check this option in folder menu - please help
[05:04] <dennis_p> I have trouble with sudo in other user accounts.
[05:06] <dennis_p> I tried sudo ls in mythtv account but kubuntu konsole says it does not recon my password 
[05:08] <dennis_p> sudo -u (user account with administration rights) ls also does not recon password
[05:08] <dennis_p> must I create a root account?
[05:17] <morrow> dennis_p: the users should be in the admin usergroup
[05:19] <dennis_p> morrow: well the first user is in admin group automatically? then why does sudo -u not work?
[05:24] <fyzix> Hi :-), Anybody know how to change the charset from in kubuntu?
[05:26] <fyzix> I would like to change to ISO 8859-1
[05:28] <BlueEagle> no you wouldn't. You might think you want to do that but you really don't.
[05:29] <BlueEagle> fyzix: (read: Why do you want to do that?)
[05:33] <shirase> has anyone here a logitech quickcam express?
[05:33] <shirase> can't get it running here.....
[05:34] <shirase> everytime i start v4l or anything else using the webcam, the whole system freezes
[05:35] <shirase> ?
[05:42] <douglas> I set up a server some time ago, and until now I just havn't had the time to mess with this problem, I have two samba shares which I mount at startup on my desktop, both in windows and linux(kubuntu), every once in a while browsing that mount fails, it seems that the connection just get's broken, even doing something simple like straming mp3's. Someone help me out, I don't know how to make it not do that.
[05:51] <freelove> Error while initializing the sound driver:
[05:51] <freelove> device: default can't be opened for playback
[05:51] <freelove> plz help........i cant hear gaim sounds............
[06:09] <monad> hi... getting a strange grub error (17) after a reset (cus somebody obviously messd with the machine) ... what do i do?
[06:10] <jaro> can anybody help me installing cedega ???
[06:11] <jaro> i get an error message while compiling
[06:11] <jaro> make[3] : Entering directory `/root/.WineCVS/sources/dx9wine/wine/dlls/dinput/tests'
[06:11] <jaro> ../../../tools/winegcc/winegcc -B../../../tools/winebuild -mconsole joystick.o keyboard.o mouse.o testlist.o   -o dinput_test.exe.so -L../../../libs/port -lwine_port -L../../../dlls -L../../../dlls/dinput -L../../../dlls/ole32 -L../../../dlls/version -L../../../dlls/user32 -L../../../dlls/kernel32 -L../../../libs -ldinput -lole32 -lversion -luser32 -lkernel32 -ldxguid -luuid -ldxerr8
[06:11] <jaro> winebuild: keyboard.o is an empty file
[06:11] <jaro> winegcc: ../../../tools/winebuild/winebuild failed.
[06:11] <jaro> make[3] : *** [dinput_test.exe.so]  Error 2
[06:11] <jaro> make[3] : Leaving directory `/root/.WineCVS/sources/dx9wine/wine/dlls/dinput/tests'
[06:11] <jaro> make[2] : *** [tests]  Error 2
[06:11] <jaro> make[2] : Leaving directory `/root/.WineCVS/sources/dx9wine/wine/dlls/dinput'
[06:12] <jaro> make[1] : *** [dinput]  Error 2
[06:12] <jaro> make[1] : Leaving directory `/root/.WineCVS/sources/dx9wine/wine/dlls'
[06:12] <jaro> make: *** [dlls]  Error 2
[06:12] <kkathman> _jaro DONT paste in here!!
[06:12] <kkathman> thats what pastebin is for!
[06:12] <jaro> sorry
[06:12] <jaro> pastebin ?
[06:12] <kkathman> !pastebin
[06:12] <jaro> !pastebin
[06:13] <kkathman> look at the topic
[06:13] <jaro> ?
[06:13] <jaro> i cant see all of it
[06:13] <kkathman> good grief....the channel topic !!
[06:13] <pv_> hint: /topic
[06:14] <kkathman> in the future take your output, and paste it at kubuntu.pastebin.com then give someone the pastebin link
[06:16] <jaro> ah ok
[06:16] <jaro> anyway
[06:16] <jaro> could you help me with that ?
[06:18] <freelove> Error while initializing the sound driver: default can't be opened for playback..plz help........i cant hear gaim sounds.
[06:21] <BlueEagle> freelove: Which application are you attempting to use when that error comes up?
[06:22] <BlueEagle> oh, never mind.
[06:23] <freelove> uhh...i think gaim......but not sure coz i open many apps same time....
[06:25] <BlueEagle> First up go to the preference menu and find the sound settings
[06:25] <BlueEagle> Which Method is set there?
[06:26] <BlueEagle> If it is set to "Default" change it to "Arts"
[06:27] <BlueEagle> the preference menu is the one in Gaim ofcourse.
[06:27] <BlueEagle> freelove: ^
[06:29] <freelove> BlueEagle: where is this preference menu?
[06:29] <BlueEagle> in gaim
[06:30] <BlueEagle> on the login screen
[06:30] <BlueEagle> It's between "Accounts" and "Sign in"
[06:31] <freelove> BlueEagle: wow! thanks a lot blueeagle.....where do u all learn all this??
[06:31] <[miles] > evening...
[06:31] <freelove> any book recommendations? seriously.......
[06:31] <BlueEagle> I opened Gaim and found the "Preferences" button and saw an entry for sound and then the output method. I have read that Arts is KDEs sound engine and ESD is Gnomes'.
[06:32] <[miles] > does anyone know the name of the package I need to make GTK apps (For eg: Firefox) use my KDE theme... iirc there is something to make GTK stuff more in line with QT apps
[06:32] <BlueEagle> freelove: It just took me three minutes because I was looking for the multimedia output selector found in gnome. :D
[06:33] <freelove> BlueEagle: thanks anyway dude:)
[06:33] <BlueEagle> freelove: np. :D
[06:34] <BlueEagle> freelove: Oh, and it helped that I knew that EDS and arts and Alsa and oss has got a tendency to not work all too well all the time.
[06:34] <freelove> BlueEagle: i see........
[06:35] <BlueEagle> It would have been easier if sound mixing was done by oss or alsa as that would mostly negate the needs of arts and esd, however there are no single "best way"(tm) of doing this afaik.
[06:36] <[miles] > anyone?
[06:36] <robzon> hi all
[06:36] <BlueEagle> [miles] : apperantly not. :/
[06:36] <[miles] > :)
[06:36] <JabberWokky> Anybody have any experience with getting (k)ubuntu installed on a system with an Adaptec 2610SA RAID card?
[06:36] <JabberWokky> Anybody have any experience with an Adaptec 2610SA RAID card at all?
[06:36] <robzon> I've just installed KDE3.5 from kubuntu on ubuntu system, and automounting stopped working on gnome (it works on KDE tho).. anyone had a similar issue?
[06:37] <[miles] > it's gtk-qt-engine ... but it does not seem to make any difference to Firefox when it's installed
[06:37] <[miles] > :-\
[06:37] <BlueEagle> jabberwokky: it's a hardware raid device, isn't it?
[06:37] <JabberWokky> BlueEagle: Yes.
[06:37] <BlueEagle> jabberwokky: have  you checked for linux compatibility?
[06:38] <JabberWokky> BlueEagle: It does, but the code appears to be Adaptecs, so at least debian doesn't support it in their installer.  I wanted to know if there was a list of drivers that the Ubuntu installer supported.
[06:39] <BlueEagle> jabberwokky: Well since there appears to be a kernel driver for it I am at loss for why it is not loaded/availible.
[06:39] <JabberWokky> Or at least that has been the focus of my googling of late.  There may be another way to figure out if it's supported.  Basically, the question is if the 5.10 installer can see it.
[06:39] <BlueEagle> jabberwokky: when in the installer hit ALT+F2 or F3 to open a console and modprobe it.
[06:40] <slow-motion> hallo
[06:40] <BlueEagle> jabberwokky: Also try using the expert installation mode.
[06:40] <JabberWokky> BlueEagle: This is a pre-buy research.  Haven't bought it yet.  I have a manager waiting for me to call to authorize the purchace, and this is the first server we're trying with ubuntu, so I want it to go smoothly.  :)
[06:41] <BlueEagle> jabberwokky: Check the installation cd for a module named 2*sa
[06:42] <BlueEagle> or rather aacraid
[06:42] <JabberWokky> Good idea... mounting the CD now.
[06:42] <BlueEagle> Well I'm off. Good luck jabberwokky.
[06:43] <JabberWokky> Thanks!
[06:51] <vblanton> Hey all ,I want to keep the same home folder with all my files from gentoo linux, but some of the hidden config files make it a little messy.  Should I just delete all the hidden folders and THEN install kubuntu? Will that work?
[06:52] <vblanton> If I keep th hidden files/folders with the config's then sometimes programs in a test-install of kubuntu I have act a little funky, and my Kmenu is not really functional and has fake entries...
[07:34] <E-Train> can anyone help me out with a probably easy fix
[07:34] <E-Train> i dumped windows the other day and am using kubuntu
[07:35] <DaSkreech> There's your easy fix :-)
[07:35] <freelove> lol
[07:36] <E-Train> haha
[07:37] <E-Train> i have a ntfs hard drive with just media on it, mostly mp3's, and I can play them in xmms but i wanna start useing amarok
[07:38] <E-Train> so when i install the gstreamer plugins i get an error in adept
[07:38] <DaSkreech> !mp3
[07:38] <E-Train> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by 
[07:38] <E-Train> another program
[07:38] <simone> hi, I have a little problem involving kppp and gprs connection, may I ask?
[07:39] <DaSkreech> E-Train: Do you have apt-get or aptitude running?
[07:39] <DaSkreech> simone: Ask Ask! how else you gonna learn?
[07:39] <E-Train> i just install the plugins using adept, not sure what else i have running
[07:40] <sampan> e-train, do you have another instance of adept, aptitude, synaptic, running?  check the process table (ksysguard if you don't want to do it via cli) to make absolutely sure
[07:40] <simone> ok
[07:40] <sampan> sounds like some other package program/process is running to me
[07:40] <simone> i use to run mepis, and i had no problem in connecting my cell phone to internet via kppp, now, with the seame config, no connection
[07:41] <E-Train> sampan: it shows adept running but its not open
[07:41] <simone> do you think i need some additional module or something similar, DaSkreech 
[07:41] <simone> ?
[07:41] <E-Train> is it possible to have to session running
[07:41] <E-Train> ~2 sessions running
[07:42] <DaSkreech> simone: not sure. Perhaps you could hop into #mepis and ask if they have gprs modules installed by default?
[07:42] <sampan> yes, it's possible, but it's not recommended -- it might still be configuring something you installed before -- or (more likely) it's stalled
[07:43] <E-Train> sampan: i think its stalled cause i have had the problem for a while. I tried to install realplayer and I think it messed some things up
[07:43] <DaSkreech> simone: I'm not a big grps user I'm sure that someone will jump in soon but couldn't hurt to check if mepis has that preconfigured
[07:43] <simone> just a little issue:  i found a tutorial (not mepis oriwnted, which told me to set the cell as /dev/ttySmSo (or something).  In this case is /dev/ttys0.  could be this the problem
[07:43] <E-Train> sampan: I just tried to kill it and it said insufficent premitions
[07:44] <ClayG> guys I'm having trouble getting my NFS share mounted
[07:44] <sampan> e-train, gotcha -- i'd probably go ahead and sudo kill the process then ... usually that's not recommended for packaging because stopping an install halfway through can be bad.  
[07:44] <ClayG> it says permission denied, I'm ssh'ed into the box so I know it isn't a connection issue
[07:44] <sampan> e-train, try sudo kill -9 process#
[07:44] <ClayG> any ideas?
[07:45] <E-Train> Sampan: is the process# the 'PID'
[07:45] <sampan> yes
[07:45] <sampan> process-ID .. or process # --
[07:45] <E-Train> cool
[07:47] <E-Train> Sampan: so do you think by installing those gstreamer plugins my mp3's will work with amarok
[07:48] <E-Train> Sampan: why would they work with xmms and not amarok? does it have to do with them being on a ntfs partition
[07:48] <sampan> i think so -- i'm a newb and not all that knowledgeable about multimedia, but if you're following the directions from the wiki it should work
[07:48] <sampan> xmms has mp3 support built-in, amarok doesn't
[07:48] <sampan> so no, it doesn't have anything to do with the ntfs partition
[07:49] <E-Train> sampan: ahhh got it, do yo know of any sites that have a good tutorial of how to install the w32codecs?
[07:49] <sampan> if you can apt-get (or adept them), they should install themselves
[07:49] <sampan> !restrictedformats
[07:50] <DaSkreech> They should be in the Wiki under restriced formats
[07:50] <sampan> !restricted
[07:50] <DaSkreech> sampan: nO uBOTU
[07:50] <sampan> :'(
[07:50] <sampan> whatever shall we do without ubotu?
[07:51] <E-Train> thaks guys
[07:52] <sampan> e-train  if you haven't been there before, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28formats%29%7C%28restricted%29 is the wiki on multimedia stuff
[07:57] <E-Train> sampan: I just killed that tried kill it and it says it locked still
[07:57] <E-Train> any other ideas
[08:02] <djk_> where's ubotu?
[08:04] <E-Train> Sampan: If i reboot will they kill any process that is useing dpkg
[08:04] <sampan> e-train, hrmmmm ... did it actually kill it? one time i had a process that i couldn't kill (eventually had to -- shudder -- reboot, in order to kill it) 
[08:05] <E-Train> Sampan: I will reboot and see what happens
[08:05] <sampan> rebooting should kill it, but it's not really the preferred (linux) way of doing things ... sudo kill -9 should kill it afaik
[08:07] <djk_> sampan: not if it's a zombie process..
[08:08] <djk_> sampan: regarding the kill -9 ^
[08:10] <sampan> rebooting won't kill it if it's zombie?
[08:10] <djk_> sampan: no, rebooting will, but kill -9 won't if it's a zombie..
[08:14] <sampan> oh ... gotcha -- linux ends out 'needing' rebooting -- i guess that's one linux myth that bites the dust ;)
[08:21] <angasule> http://www.losurs.org/docs/zombies
[08:29] <[Relic] > were are the journal system settings?
[08:32] <[Relic] > ?? kjournald
[08:32] <kinfo> No match for "kjournald"
[08:32] <[Relic] > ?? kjournal
[08:32] <kinfo> No match for "kjournal"
[08:32] <[Relic] > ?? journal
[08:32] <kinfo> No match for "journal"
[08:32] <[Relic] > ?? ext3
[08:32] <kinfo> No match for "ext3"
[08:34] <b0nn> hi all, Ive just tried to install apache via adept and I get an error
[08:35] <b0nn> I was trying to install apache1.3.38 and adept tried to install apache2-utils
[08:35] <b0nn> that should be apache1.3.33-8
[08:36] <kylev> b0nn: just start running apache2 :-)
[08:36] <LoBoGoL> god night! :)
[08:36] <b0nn> heh
[08:37] <b0nn> Ive just manually installed apache-utils (1.3.33-8)
[08:38] <[Relic] > any ideas on the location of the journaling system settings?
[08:38] <b0nn> etc/devfs?
[08:39] <b0nn> or not
[08:39] <LoBoGoL> some of Brazil here?
[08:42] <winnie> hi! .. i need help !!!
[08:43] <b0nn> eat less sugar :)
[08:43] <winnie> lol :p
[08:43] <winnie> can you help me with kubuntu ???? :$
[08:43] <b0nn> no idea
[08:43] <winnie> thanks!
[08:44] <b0nn> heh
[08:44] <b0nn> are you going to tell people the problem?
[08:44] <b0nn> or is it a mind reading test
[08:44] <[Relic] > what fun would that be, you are supposed to guess it
[08:45] <b0nn> heh
[08:45] <b0nn> its the modem
[08:45] <danudany> ok ... i have just installed kubuntu and i can not change the resolution to 1024...
[08:46] <b0nn> right click desktop
[08:46] <b0nn> click on configure desktop
[08:47] <b0nn> click on display
[08:47] <danudany> not that way.... 
[08:47] <b0nn> :)
[08:47] <danudany> i know that but i cant go along 800x600
[08:47] <djk_> try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:48] <Flammia> he's right... I had the same problem
[08:48] <Flammia> if you get no video after setting your max res higher, try reducing the frequency and colour depth
[08:50] <Flammia> does anyone in here torrent??
[08:51] <poningru> Flammia: yeah why do you ask?
[08:52] <Flammia> cuz I'm having difficulties
[08:52] <Flammia> Azureus downloads nothing at all
[08:52] <Flammia> and KTorrent downloads very slowly for only about 10% of the time... otherwise it's also stalled
[08:53] <djk_> configure iptables for the ports you use..
[08:53] <b0nn> Is your ISP limiting your downloads?
[08:53] <djk_> it also depends on the peers though..
[08:53] <Flammia> nope... ISP is fine
[08:53] <b0nn> We have a big problem here in NZ with ISP's trying to contain p2p
[08:53] <Flammia> I can torrent on my other box, connected through the same hub
[08:54] <LoBoGoL> which the great difference between Ubuntu with the Gnome and the Kubuntu with the Kde?
[08:54] <Flammia> how do I configure IP tables, djk_??
[08:54] <Flammia> the difference is the GUI
[08:55] <Flammia> I like how KDE looks, ergo I use Kubuntu
[08:55] <djk_> Flammia: it probably will be better if you use firestarter ( a graphical frontend)..
[08:55] <Flammia> so... go to a terminal and type firestarter??
[08:55] <djk_> you'll have to install it first..
[08:55] <Flammia> KTorrent also has this nasty habit of going "Not Responding" after about 10 minutes
[08:56] <LoBoGoL> ok
[08:57] <angasule> Flammia: yeah, don't bother using it... also, avoid qtorrent, it has absolutely no options (maybe it has command line options, but then, why use a graphical client if you need the command line?
[08:58] <Flammia> thanks, angasule
[08:58] <Flammia> alright... I'l install firestarter... using adept??
[08:58] <angasule> Flammia: don't thank me, I'm just b*tching :)
[08:58] <djk_> butching?
[08:59] <djk_> yes Flammia
[08:59] <angasule> yes, butching heh
[08:59] <angasule> if anyone can recommend a kde-friendly bittorrent client, it'd be most welcome
[08:59] <djk_> bittornado? 
[09:00] <djk_> i don't really know what kde-friendly is supposed to mean, but yea..
[09:01] <angasule> mostly, that it goes to the tray and doesn't look out of place
[09:01] <PokerFacePenguin> for kubuntu, i like guarddog best
[09:01] <kkathman> Hi ya PokerFacePenguin :)
[09:02] <Flammia> I'd define KDE-friendly as "works in KDE"
[09:02] <djk_> guarddog is a frontend to iptables.. not a torrent-client...
[09:02] <PokerFacePenguin> heya kkathman 
[09:02] <Flammia> which I haven't found yet
[09:02] <[Relic] > I can't find anything on any of the forums about where the journaling settings are stored  :(
[09:02] <djk_> Flammia: everything _works_ in kde.. 
[09:03] <PokerFacePenguin> djk_: thats what i get for jumpin in halfway in and not reading close enuf.. :P
[09:03] <djk_> hehe :)
[09:04] <Flammia> firestarter is trying to make me create a firewall...
[09:05] <angasule> firestarter *is* a firewall, I think?
[09:05] <djk_> angasule: no, just a frontend to iptables
[09:05] <Flammia> okay
[09:05] <Flammia> it's still putting me through a firewall wizard :P
[09:07] <Flammia> alright... firestarter is running... what should I be checking??
[09:07] <b0nn> meh .. write an iptables script youself :P
[09:07] <djk_> azureus needs udp and tcp ports 6881:6889 ..
[09:07] <Flammia> argh... I am so new to linux... I just learned how to even _make_ a script yesterday
[09:09] <b0nn> ok.. my next suggestion might have been a bit much then (Was going to suggest installing OpenBSD on an old machine and using that as a hardware firewall :)
[09:09] <sampan> flammia, don't let 'em pressure you into biting off a huge chunk of steep-learning curve meat (i.e., iptables) firestarter is fine -- you can call it up and make changes to your iptables 'on the fly' with it easily.
[09:09] <sampan> ;X
[09:10] <b0nn> no no noooooooo, heap on the pressure :-)
[09:10] <Flammia> but before putting in firestarter I didn't even have a firewall...
[09:10] <djk_> i don't really get  "hardware firewalls"...
[09:10] <Flammia> lol... I've got enough pressure
[09:10] <sampan> lol b0nn 
[09:10] <Flammia> alright... I enabled ports 6881 and 6889
[09:10] <Flammia> still no action on the torrents
[09:10] <Flammia> should I be running Azureus as root??
[09:11] <b0nn> no
[09:11] <djk_> hell no
[09:11] <angasule> besides, even Eric Raymond can't do all the magic (I share his pain, until kubuntu, I had never been able to print on the printer through samba)
[09:11] <angasule> never
[09:11] <PokerFacePenguin> Flammia: never run p2p apps as root
[09:11] <Flammia> kk... that's what I had thought
[09:12] <djk_> b0nn: ever tried freesco?
[09:12] <b0nn> IIRC opening those ports is to allow your bittorrent client to accept requests from trackers as to what file(s) you are in possession of
[09:12] <Flammia> hmmm... firestarter's showing a lot of action ont hose ports
[09:12] <Flammia> but nothing's coming through
[09:12] <b0nn> djk_: yeah, ages ago
[09:12] <djk_> how is it
[09:12] <b0nn> small
[09:13] <b0nn> I have a friend who uses it on a cf card for his fw
[09:13] <djk_> heh, yea i know it's small :)
[09:13] <djk_> from the screenshots it looks pretty powerful
[09:13] <sampan> flammia, did you add a rule allowing anyone to connect on those ports in firestarter?
[09:13] <b0nn> (using it on floppys is no good because the write head in the FDD's welds to the floppys because of a constant read/write state
[09:14] <Flammia> yes... it was Service: BitTorrent, Port: 6881-6889, For: Everyone
[09:14] <djk_> b0nn: doesn't it actually run in the 8MB ram it requires?
[09:14] <sampan> kk
[09:14] <b0nn> pass
[09:14] <b0nn> Im passing on 2nd hand info :\
[09:15] <djk_> b0nn: i'm pretty sure it does.. just like DBAN runs in the RAM it uses..
[09:15] <Flammia> I'm blocking a lot of Samba and Microsoft-ds packets right now... does that have any significance??
[09:16] <b0nn> Flammia: no
[09:16] <Flammia> actually.. does a red record mean it was blocked, or allowed...
[09:16] <sampan> it's significant in that your pc is protecting itself, but probably not significant as far as the bt problem is concerned ;)
[09:17] <Flammia> lol... gotcha
[09:18] <angasule> so, I'm gonna start chemical warfame against the flies, have fun
[09:18] <Flammia> they deserve it
[09:18] <Flammia> so... nobody else has any enlightenning information on torrenting??
[09:20] <PokerFacePenguin> flammia: i use limewire to p2p, but i do in ubuntu insteazd
[09:20] <Flammia> whoa... I am connected to one peer... but still have no downloading
[09:20] <angasule> Flammia: you open 6881-6889, then it works, never had any trouble with those ports open
[09:20] <angasule> Flammia: some torrents are sucky, no seeds and bad peers
[09:20] <Flammia> one torrent I know is good, though... I've used it twice on other machines
[09:20] <djk_> try some porn ;)
[09:21] <angasule> heh djk speaks the truth
[09:21] <PokerFacePenguin> Flammia: and for kde, i use the bittornado.....basically end up downloading a torrent file and click on it...run it with btdownloadgui
[09:21] <b0nn> try go-open
[09:22] <Flammia> alright, Penguin... explain that and I shall try
[09:22] <Flammia> I've heard of running torrents from command line also...
[09:22] <PokerFacePenguin> Flammia: gotta let the dog in ...brb
[09:23] <Flammia> kk
[09:23] <b0nn> Flammia: btdownload.py
[09:24] <b0nn> try this torrent and see what speed you get
[09:24] <PokerFacePenguin> Flammia: do a man for btdownloadgui to see if ya got it
[09:24] <b0nn> http://www.go-opensource.org/files/go-open-vol-1.torrent
[09:24] <Flammia> errr... that's not a command, so how do I do it??
[09:24] <PokerFacePenguin> Flammia: man btdownloadgui
[09:24] <Flammia> don't have it... adept??
[09:25] <b0nn> btdownload.py is a python client by bram
[09:25] <Flammia> 3K'sec on tht torrent
[09:25] <Flammia> on KTorrent... which will crash in about 5 minutes
[09:26] <Flammia> 90K/sec now
[09:26] <b0nn> so its your seeds .. not you
[09:26] <Flammia> it's not a connection problem... it's a software problem
[09:26] <PokerFacePenguin> Flammia: adept for the bittorrent pkg, and if you click on a torrentfile you can select open with btdownloadgui
[09:26] <Flammia> KTorrent crashes and Azureus won't connect
[09:28] <Flammia> 170K/sec now
[09:28] <b0nn> have your clients crashed?
[09:29] <Flammia> not yet
[09:29] <Flammia> what am I torrenting anyways??
[09:30] <Flammia> PokerFacePenguin: Where do I find btdownloadgui to open the file with??
[09:31] <Flammia> nevermind... figured that out
[09:31] <PokerFacePenguin> Flammia: its not very pretty, but it gets the job done
[09:32] <Flammia> I noticed... it's actually running
[09:32] <Flammia> will it seed after it finishes torrenting??
[09:32] <djk_> yes
[09:33] <Flammia> perfect
[09:33] <Flammia> I forsake KTorrent forever!!
[09:33] <PokerFacePenguin> Flammia: lol
[09:33] <Flammia> now... can I run firestarter without opening  a terminal??
[09:34] <sampan> yes
[09:34] <sampan> kmenu --> run command --> type: kdesu firestarter
[09:34] <PokerFacePenguin> Flammia: or add it to the menu with add item
[09:36] <Flammia> anyways... thanks for the help
[09:36] <Flammia> I gotta go
[09:36] <sampan> tootles
[09:40] <b0nn> did flammia get to the bottom of his problem?
[09:40] <b0nn> and theres no damn scroll back on irssi :\
[09:41] <sampan> there is on my irssi :X
[09:41] <b0nn> how do I scroll back then?
[09:41] <b0nn> I normally use bitchx
[09:41] <sampan> try sb -40
[09:41] <b0nn> sb -40
[09:42] <sampan> or scrollback -40
[09:42] <b0nn> scrollback -40
[09:42] <sampan> bah, i must have set up an alias -- just a second
[09:42] <b0nn> I cant get /whois on it either
[09:42] <sampan> weird
[09:44] <b0nn> well I better get back to work 
[09:46] <hunika> raphink: Hello
[09:48] <hunika> raphink: I have a small question
[09:48] <hunika> raphink: I have seen at kde-look.org that there exists MAC OS X theme for KDE
[09:48] <hunika> raphink: How the hell can I install it. There is no deb file
[09:49] <hunika> raphink: Or debian compatible installation file
[09:49] <hunika> raphink: Can you help me pls
[09:54] <djk_> there's most likely a readme with instructions..
[09:54] <hunika> djk_ no there are no instructions 
[09:54] <hunika> djk_ just a file
[09:54] <hunika> djk_ anyway I have another proble,
[09:55] <hunika> djk_ how can I get a flash player for konqueror
[09:56] <gerst> hi
[09:56] <gerst> is there alien command in your kubuntu? :D
[09:56] <gerst> i got bash: alien: command not found
[09:56] <gerst> wtf?
[09:57] <djk_> hunika: link?
[09:57] <Kibou> gerst: how about installing it first..
[09:58] <hunika> djk_: What link the mac os theme link?
[09:58] <sampan> gerst, have you installed alien?  
[09:58] <gerst> i thought its default stuff :D
[09:58] <gerst> but I cant install it with apt-get
[09:58] <gerst> Package alien is not available, but is referred to by another package
[09:58] <gerst> i need another repository
[09:59] <djk_> hunika: yes.. 
[10:01] <djk_> hunika: regarding flashplayer, if you have it installed for a different browser (mozilla for example) you can search for it in konquerors options..
[10:03] <hunika> djk_ I see
[10:04] <djk_> hunika: what about that link for mac os x theme
[10:08] <hunika> djk_ I am sorry I am busy a little bit
[10:08] <hunika> djk_ I will look now
[10:10] <hunika> djk_: Here is the link for the MAC OS THEME http://citkit.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/baghira/baghira-0.7.tar.bz2
[10:12] <djk_> hunika: not the downloadlink, the kde-look.org link to it ;)
[10:15] <djk_> hunika: is it this here? http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=8692
[10:17] <hunika> djk_: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=8692
[10:17] <djk_> hunika: well, there are instructions ..
[10:19] <hunika> djk_: For me a person who uses Linux for 2 weeks are not instructions :)))))) I used windows for 10 years
[10:20] <djk_> hunika: heh, time to say goodbye to the clicking-mentality i suppose
[10:22] <PaloDeQueso> Does anyone use samba with kubuntu as a server and smbmounting over a network?
[10:23] <bam_> anyone using gtkpod?
[10:24] <hunika> djk_: Yes for First Linux seemed to me with the kde like Windows. I said it is a copy of windows, it is the same. The K menu - Start menu and so on. But it is much more difficult I think, or it is just another way.
[10:24] <PaloDeQueso> I have a kubuntu server setup with two hard drives smb shared, I have those two HDs smb mounted over the network on my desktop (kubuntu). I stream all of my music and movies from my server. Quite often though it almost seems as though it stalls or disconnects for about a minute, and in the middle of my media it stops. Is there any known reason for this?
[10:27] <djk_> hunika: the baghira theme is in the repos..
[10:27] <djk_> hunika: it's in universe
[10:27] <djk_> hunika: so, sudo apt-get install kwin-baghira
[10:30] <hunika> djk_: Where should I install it in Theme Manager?
[10:30] <hunika> djk_: I don't have there
[10:31] <hunika> djk_: I have made the install in console
[10:31] <hunika> djk_: Where should I install the theme, apply/to see it
[10:31] <djk_> hunika: then you should be able to select it in system settings-appearance-style
[10:33] <hunika> djk_: As I see it is working but I don't have an apple bar instead of taskbar
[10:34] <hunika> djk_: And it is not like in the screenshot at kde-look
[10:34] <djk_> hunika: i don't use that theme, so maybe you have to configure it.. or it doesn't do that.. there's karamba mac os x bar..
[10:35] <hunika> djk_: I see
[10:35] <hunika> djk_: I think Apple computers is the best but it is too expensive 
[10:35] <hunika> are the best
[10:37] <hunika> djk_: I am leaving now, anyway thanks for helping
[10:59] <_triablo> how to install essencial codecs for kaffeine player ?
[11:03] <jaro> hey 
[11:03] <jaro> :-)
[11:03] <Stormchaser> 'lo.
[11:03] <Stormchaser> Where can I find kdepim for KDE3.5 for breezy?
[11:03] <kkathman> you probably cant
[11:04] <kkathman> not for 3.5
[11:04] <kkathman> but kdepim is in the repos I believe
[11:04] <Stormchaser> why?
[11:04] <jaro> hmm
[11:04] <kkathman> because most apps have not ported to KDE 3.5 things yet :)
[11:04] <jaro> does anyone have a very nice Desktop ?
[11:04] <kkathman> even standard apps havent
[11:05] <Stormchaser> there is no such difference betwee 3.4 and 3.5... 
[11:05] <Stormchaser> +n
[11:05] <kkathman> ?
[11:05] <Stormchaser> I mean kde-pim is a KDE package
[11:06] <kkathman> there isnt huh...well maybe you can explain why so many packages got held back when you "upgrade" to 3.5 then?
[11:06] <Stormchaser> IT hold in kmail, kontact, kpilot, ...
[11:06] <kkathman> or why so many people are experiencing issues with Konq?
[11:06] <kkathman> hmm?
[11:06] <Stormchaser> kkathman: I was never in core development in KDE
[11:07] <kkathman> you can try it...it might be ok
[11:08] <kkathman> !info kdepim
[11:08] <kkathman> ubotu wake up dude
[11:08] <l3m> kkathman: just dist-upgrade
[11:08] <kkathman> lol
[11:08] <l3m> then you get everything
[11:08] <kkathman> ahh no ubotu today
[11:08] <kkathman> lol
[11:09] <l3m> i think it's just a packaging issue
[11:09] <kkathman> l3m: no thanks...3.5 is just transitional anyway
[11:09] <l3m> so you don't upgrade without explicitly requesting it
[11:09] <kkathman> Stormchaser: kdepim is in the repos btw
[11:09] <Delvien> anyone know alot about LED lights on laptops :P
[11:09] <Delvien> hey kkath
[11:09] <kkathman> but its out of date  I think
[11:09] <kkathman> heya Delvien :)
[11:10] <Delvien> kkathman you run on a laptop right?
[11:10] <kkathman> nope
[11:10] <kkathman> 3 desktops
[11:10] <Kibou> did they improve kompmgr in 3.5?
[11:10] <Kibou> it's a little flaky in 3.4.3
[11:10] <Stormchaser> o.O Why does subversion relies on libapr?
[11:10] <Delvien> kkathman bleh , Desktops are old :P
[11:11] <Stormchaser> anyone tryed KDE4?
[11:12] <kkathman> I know some that have
[11:12] <Stormchaser> how is it?
[11:12] <kkathman> its still very very alpha I think :)
[11:12] <Riddell> who has breezy and wants to test the new amarok?
[11:12] <Stormchaser> Riddell: It seems, that the new amarok has some weird race conditions
[11:13] <Riddell> Stormchaser: which new amarok?
[11:13] <Stormchaser> 1.3
[11:13] <Riddell> which 1.3?
[11:13] <Stormchaser> bah... I have to restart KDE to check for the version
[11:13] <Stormchaser> brb
[11:13] <fyrmedic> I had 1.3.6 and had all the same issues as 1.3.1
[11:14] <Riddell> so, who wants to test 1.3.7?
[11:16] <Stormchaser> 1.3.1
[11:16] <Stormchaser> guess it's not that _new_
[11:17] <jaro> hmm you guys ?
[11:17] <manveru> Riddell: uhm, got 1.3.1 in e17 (kde 3.5 installed in background) - would like to upgrade a bit :)
[11:17] <jaro> cedega need gcc 4.0 to be downgraded...
[11:17] <fyrmedic> I'm out!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:17] <jaro> how can i do that ?
[11:17] <Riddell> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-1.3.7 breezy main  for testers
[11:17] <jaro> hey does e17 work at all ?
[11:17] <jaro> i installed it
[11:17] <jaro> but i dont even have a menu
[11:17] <manveru> jaro: ever heard the sentence - "just do it"?
[11:17] <jaro> for standard apps
[11:18] <jaro> there is no main menu
[11:18] <jaro> it says when i click left on the background a menu should appear
[11:18] <jaro> but doesnt
[11:18] <manveru> hm?
[11:19] <manveru> well, better check that back with the #e channel - but e17 is still very beta
[11:19] <jaro> i can't run a thing
[11:28] <manveru> wait a second, Mike Oldfield hat an album named Amarok? :)
[11:28] <manveru> -t+d
[11:30] <manveru> Riddell: well, everything is working smooth...
[11:34] <Riddell> manveru: great, thanks
[11:34] <manveru> Riddell: except for one thing...
[11:35] <manveru> Riddell: i've got problems with files that contain umlauts... maybe i have to rebuild my collection
[11:35] <manveru> Riddell: but it says the files don't exist - so i fear it's something more serious
[11:38] <Delvien> any recent KDE updates?
[11:38] <manveru> Delvien: ?
[11:39] <manveru> what do you think of as KDE update?
[11:40] <djk_> where's ubotu?
[11:41] <manveru> oh, he's on vacation... said he would be back next week or so
[11:41] <djk_> nice.
[11:42] <manveru> not sure, but maybe ubuntulog can help you? :)
[11:43] <djk_> it's not like i need ubotu, just wanted to fix the most recent factoid..
[11:45] <manveru> Riddell: is musicbrainz working?
[11:45] <Riddell> manveru: for ogg yes, not mp3
[11:46] <manveru> oh?
[11:46] <libben> djk_: thxs for the grub tip. it worked great with install cd, would have come up with that myself eventually. but the easy road to ask is way faster =)
[11:46] <djk_> :)
[11:48] <libben> time to get some sleep. been working 12hour this day, need to catch up with my pillow.
[11:49] <manveru> Riddell: and the postgresql-options-field is still in a single line
[11:49] <manveru> Riddell: would be nice if it was splitted up like the mysql one
[11:50] <Riddell> manveru: where's that?
[11:50] <manveru> Riddell: in the options for the collection
[11:50] <manveru> in the main-options
[11:51] <Riddell> manveru: if it's a user interface issue you need to talk to the amarok devs
[11:51] <manveru> wich issues do you handle?
[11:52] <Riddell> packaging
[11:52] <manveru> i see...
[11:52] <Riddell> kubuntu specific issues
[11:52] <Riddell> default settings in kubuntu too
[11:52] <Riddell> like the big question for dapper... do we have a splashscreen on amarok or not
[11:53] <manveru> hmm, according to the ultimate gui-guide it's better to have one
[11:53] <manveru> since it signals activity
[11:54] <manveru> but best would be to have it optional (not sure if it is so - i prefer splash anyway)
[11:54] <manveru> there are arguments against splash-screens? :)
[11:56] <djk_> they're not really useful..
[11:57] <djk_> unneccessary garbage to load ;)
[11:57] <manveru> i prefer it over staring one minute at a blank screen...
[11:57] <pv_> does amarok take one minute to start?
[11:58] <manveru> if something is expected to take a long time to start it _must_ have a splash-screen
[11:58] <djk_> well, it's not really "signaling activity" if it takes a minute now is it ;)
[11:58] <LeeJunFan> pv_: not here, but then I have a 64bit 3400 :)
[11:58] <manveru> never worked with some IDE like JEdit/Eclipse - right? ^^
[11:58] <djk_> pv_: amarok takes a few seconds here..p4 3200
[11:58] <djk_> manveru: me?
[11:59] <LeeJunFan> pv_: how many mp3's do you have in your collection also? I've also got mine setup to use mysql, which may help it speed up a bit.
[11:59] <manveru> well, my amaroK takes about 20-30 sekonds to start
[11:59] <djk_> manveru: i have, but then i decided i don't like java ;)
[12:00] <manveru> oh hell - i'm KDE-addicted, i say seKonds...
[12:00] <manveru> djk_: well, that's the fact for every IDE out there, they just have lots of stuff to load - and i don't code java, but ruby - so i'm glad i don't depend on them
[12:01] <djk_> manveru: i just think that loading a splashscreen may slow down loading the prog, thus unneccessary garbage.
[12:02] <manveru> i guess that might take... 0.01 seconds or something
[12:02] <libben> how can i spin down a hd? is it bad to spin it down? 
[12:02] <manveru> and it's faster in a subjective way (the way a human sees it)