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| LaserJock | theCore: hi | 06:53 |
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| theCore | LaserJock, hi | 06:55 |
| theCore | LaserJock, i rethinked about the hello packages as examples, and i now think it's a good idea | 06:56 |
| theCore | LaserJock, pretty sure about that | 06:57 |
| theCore | LaserJock, they quite complete examples | 06:57 |
| theCore | they are* | 06:58 |
| theCore | LaserJock, have you started something ? | 06:58 |
| theCore | (Did you begin something?) <-- it is clearer like that ;) | 07:01 |
| LaserJock | theCore: no, I worked on the outline some more. I am going to email the ubuntu-motu list to get feedback on our outline. | 07:01 |
| theCore | okay | 07:01 |
| LaserJock | but right now I have some real life work to do and I am up for membership tomorrow morning at the CC meeting. | 07:02 |
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| theCore | i understand | 07:03 |
| jsgotangco | hi all | 07:03 |
| LaserJock | theCore: did you want to start on something | 07:03 |
| LaserJock | hi jsgotangco | 07:03 |
| jsgotangco | what's up dudes? | 07:04 |
| jsgotangco | rob1, ping? | 07:04 |
| LaserJock | jsgotangco: no much, we were discussing the Ubuntu Packaging Guide | 07:04 |
| LaserJock | s/no/not/ | 07:04 |
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| theCore | LaserJock, the outline is coming very well | 07:12 |
| theCore | LaserJock, yes | 07:13 |
| theCore | LaserJock, so where i can start ? | 07:16 |
| LaserJock | theCore: at the beginning? | 07:18 |
| LaserJock | theCore: are you going to work in XML? | 07:18 |
| theCore | LaserJock, yes | 07:19 |
| LaserJock | theCore: How about doing the Introduction? | 07:19 |
| theCore | LaserJock, okay | 07:20 |
| theCore | LaserJock, we start from scratch ? | 07:20 |
| LaserJock | theCore: yes, I think it would be easier if we did | 07:24 |
| LaserJock | theCore: you don't have to do it perfectly. Just give it a rough draft | 07:24 |
| theCore | LaserJock, okay | 07:25 |
| theCore | LaserJock, do we make the guide in multiple file ? | 07:34 |
| theCore | LaserJock, or in a single one ? | 07:34 |
| bhuvan | jsgotangco, ping | 07:37 |
| jsgotangco | hi | 07:37 |
| bhuvan | we're not receiving mails in ubuntu-doc-commits mailing list | 07:37 |
| bhuvan | is it wise to add it to cc agenda ? | 07:37 |
| jsgotangco | hrmmmm | 07:37 |
| jsgotangco | bhuvan, i don't know how its setup at the moment but jdub is the one managing all the ubuntu lists... | 07:38 |
| jsgotangco | i can ask hem | 07:38 |
| jsgotangco | s/hem/him | 07:38 |
| bhuvan | cool | 07:38 |
| bhuvan | fwiw, the problem exists since dec 02 | 07:39 |
| jsgotangco | ahh i was out of the country then | 07:39 |
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| LaserJock | theCore: sorry, I was working on something else. what do you think? I would think that eventually we will need multiple files but right now it is probably easier to do just one. | 07:51 |
| theCore | LaserJock, it's what i thinked | 07:52 |
| rob1 | if you choose multiple files, use xincludes | 07:53 |
| theCore | rob1, i all ready use it | 07:55 |
| theCore | *already | 07:55 |
| theCore | right now, i'm making the placeholders for the guide | 07:57 |
| LaserJock | theCore: ok, I gotta get to bed. Email me what you have done when you feel like it. good luck ;-) | 07:58 |
| theCore | LaserJock, cya later | 08:00 |
| LaserJock | cya | 08:01 |
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| dholbach | hellas | 08:43 |
| dholbach | any objections on me doing another docs upload now? | 08:43 |
| dholbach | (to dapper) | 08:43 |
| jsgotangco | sure | 08:44 |
| jsgotangco | load up the crack machine! | 08:44 |
| dholbach | rock'n'roll | 08:45 |
| dholbach | 1626 lines of changes since last time | 08:45 |
| dholbach | you guys rock | 08:45 |
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| jsgotangco | dholbach, i've been slacking | 08:51 |
| dholbach | come on | 08:52 |
| dholbach | you've been busy | 08:52 |
| dholbach | and rocking korea business world :) | 08:52 |
| jsgotangco | not on docs side :( | 08:53 |
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| jsgotangco | yeah i got good emails from it | 08:53 |
| dholbach | i just read the dvdrip part from the new docs | 08:53 |
| jsgotangco | oh that looks bad | 08:53 |
| dholbach | could you please have an eye on the docs and if you find stuff that developers could make easier, by applying a patch, PLEASE let us know | 08:54 |
| dholbach | write a quick bug report | 08:54 |
| dholbach | maybe even refer to your documentation | 08:54 |
| jsgotangco | dholbach, make me resist from installing the Xandros box set that was given to me..hehe... | 08:54 |
| dholbach | i don't want to be an asshole, but no user should have to do stuff like "sudo gedit /usr/share/applications/dvdrip.desktop" | 08:55 |
| dholbach | so please file bug reports for that stuff :) | 08:55 |
| jsgotangco | oh missing desktop items? | 08:55 |
| dholbach | that's something i found in the docs | 08:55 |
| dholbach | and i saw more stuff that we could automate/make easier | 08:55 |
| jsgotangco | that's crack | 08:55 |
| dholbach | i highly appreciate what you all do | 08:56 |
| dholbach | 30,2M doc upload ;) | 08:56 |
| dholbach | i hope mdke_ helps me soon to write a quick script that weeds out the stuff not needed in the docs, i get form svn :) | 08:57 |
| dholbach | s/form/from | 08:58 |
| dholbach | it's up :) | 09:07 |
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| WaterSevenUb | dholbach, mdke said he was planning to release new ubuntu-docs via -update. Could this http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18050 be solved also in the -update? not sure if the problem lies in the ubuntu-docs package. | 02:12 |
| jsgotangco | plan to release? | 02:14 |
| dholbach | WaterSevenUb: afaik we have no fix for 18050 yet | 02:14 |
| dholbach | and updates to -update must be really really really really safe updates | 02:14 |
| WaterSevenUb | dholbach, ok.... thx :-) | 02:15 |
| WaterSevenUb | jsgotangco, way of speaking... #rosetta-users #ubuntu-translators mdke's mail. | 02:15 |
| WaterSevenUb | #-> mailing list. | 02:15 |
| WaterSevenUb | dholbach, this seems to be a broken link... easy to solve though... | 02:16 |
| dholbach | cool | 02:17 |
| jsgotangco | its really hard to push -update | 02:18 |
| jsgotangco | itll have to go with pitti's acid test | 02:18 |
| jsgotangco | unless -docs is a universe package | 02:18 |
| dholbach | mdz' acid test | 02:18 |
| jsgotangco | as well | 02:18 |
| jsgotangco | =) | 02:18 |
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| jsgotangco | although i'm afraid i'll be flying agian next week | 02:19 |
| jsgotangco | (hope not) | 02:19 |
| dholbach | what is it next week? | 02:19 |
| jsgotangco | oh its work related...in brisbane... | 02:19 |
| jsgotangco | hopefully andy fitz is in town :) | 02:19 |
| dholbach | :))) | 02:20 |
| jsgotangco | how far is romania from berlin? | 02:20 |
| jjesse | morning :) | 02:23 |
| jsgotangco | morning jjesse :) | 02:25 |
| jjesse | probablly not morning where you are at jsgotangco | 02:25 |
| jsgotangco | well in a few hours it'll be morning :) | 02:26 |
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| WaterSevenUb | dholbach, when you click in System, Help, those strings and links that appear for FAQ guide are in what source package? I've looked into ubuntu-doc source and the links are ok... | 02:34 |
| dholbach | hm, they should be there | 02:35 |
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| jjesse | LaserJock: did they vote on you when i was gone? | 03:53 |
| jjesse | LaserJock: if not you are working on the packaging guide? | 03:53 |
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| LaserJock | jjesse: no and yes | 04:04 |
| jjesse | LaserJock: ok i had to remember what i was supporting you :) | 04:08 |
| LaserJock | jjesse: np | 04:10 |
| jsgotangco | mgalvin, ping? | 04:18 |
| mgalvin | jsgotangco: pong | 04:18 |
| jsgotangco | mgalvin, how's things? i arrived yesterday... | 04:19 |
| mgalvin | going good, cool, i read you blog, sounds like it was fun | 04:19 |
| jsgotangco | mgalvin, very... | 04:23 |
| jsgotangco | after 6 years i finally get to see snow again | 04:24 |
| mgalvin | it snowed a few times here this week ;) | 04:24 |
| jsgotangco | yeah although the next day i hated it again | 04:25 |
| mgalvin | :) | 04:25 |
| jjesse | congrats LaserJock | 04:28 |
| jsgotangco | cheers | 04:29 |
| LaserJock | thanks | 04:29 |
| jjesse | it is snowing every day this week | 04:29 |
| LaserJock | thanks for all your support guys | 04:29 |
| jsgotangco | well the day after it snowed, i remembered why i didn't like it at all in the first place | 04:29 |
| mgalvin | LaserJock: congrats | 04:30 |
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| LaserJock | ok, so who do I need to talk to about getting svn commit access? | 05:06 |
| jsgotangco | elmo | 05:14 |
| LaserJock | jsgotangco: really, for the doc team repo? | 05:15 |
| jsgotangco | yup | 05:15 |
| LaserJock | do one of you need to do it? | 05:15 |
| jsgotangco | i can send elmo an email requesting for it...elmo will just need your gpg key so he can setup the account and send you the details | 05:18 |
| Belutz | jsgotangco, !! | 05:19 |
| LaserJock | jsgotangco: that would be great, he already has my gpg key perhaps | 05:19 |
| jsgotangco | Belutz, hi, how did your debian conf go? | 05:20 |
| Belutz | jsgotangco, hi, finally, i did the talk about edubuntu | 05:22 |
| jsgotangco | cool | 05:22 |
| Belutz | jsgotangco, and it's not that scary as i thought :p | 05:22 |
| jsgotangco | Belutz, well you're empowered to do so... | 05:22 |
| Belutz | jsgotangco, and some of the audience ask a lot about edubuntu and willing to help to develop edubuntu | 05:22 |
| jsgotangco | Belutz, so well, jdub hinted on an asian tour... | 05:23 |
| Belutz | jsgotangco, asian tour? when? | 05:23 |
| jsgotangco | Belutz, im going to list down big conferences in the region so i'll need your help | 05:23 |
| jsgotangco | and make a sane schedule at least | 05:23 |
| Belutz | ok | 05:24 |
| Belutz | let me know what should i do | 05:24 |
| jsgotangco | Belutz, the key is to duplicate Badger Badger Badger Tour | 05:24 |
| jsgotangco | and make an easy route to go with.... | 05:25 |
| jsgotangco | (it can be pretty hard to fly from jakarta then go to mumbai after 2 days) | 05:25 |
| jsgotangco | then go back to syndey | 05:26 |
| Belutz | jsgotangco, is there any sponsor for this event? | 05:26 |
| jsgotangco | we'll flesh it out further by next year | 05:26 |
| jsgotangco | Belutz, its still very early to tell... | 05:26 |
| jsgotangco | Belutz, the idea just sprang up after the hard planning we did for seoul | 05:27 |
| Belutz | jsgotangco, i see, by the way, how's korea? | 05:27 |
| jsgotangco | pretty good | 05:27 |
| jsgotangco | have you seen my blog? | 05:27 |
| Belutz | jsgotangco, the that is also posted in p.u.c ? | 05:27 |
| jsgotangco | yes | 05:27 |
| jsgotangco | i hanged out with a guy from Xandros and the project leader of firefox | 05:28 |
| Belutz | yes i've read that :) | 05:28 |
| jsgotangco | Belutz, the new one? :) | 05:28 |
| jsgotangco | Belutz, the organizer flew us in business class we're not complaining | 05:29 |
| jsgotangco | =) | 05:29 |
| Belutz | jsgotangco, yes the new one :) | 05:30 |
| jsgotangco | its not in-depth but gives you an idea how big it was and the potential market | 05:31 |
| Belutz | :-) | 05:31 |
| jsgotangco | they payphone thing was fun | 05:32 |
| Belutz | hmm how do i upload the slides? i don't have a space | 05:32 |
| jsgotangco | xandros just won't show up | 05:32 |
| jsgotangco | hehe | 05:32 |
| Belutz | yeaaa the payphone is cool | 05:32 |
| Belutz | hahaha | 05:32 |
| jsgotangco | Belutz, i know you can upload to the wiki but i don't know how | 05:32 |
| Belutz | jsgotangco, hmm i see, i already upload some of the pics into flickr | 05:33 |
| Belutz | the breezy cd's are gone in less than 10 minutes :p | 05:34 |
| jsgotangco | link? | 05:34 |
| Belutz | wait | 05:35 |
| Belutz | http://www.flickr.com/photos/belutz/sets/1524102/ | 05:35 |
| Belutz | i haven't upload the crowd in our booth | 05:35 |
| jsgotangco | edubuntu laptop whoaaa | 05:37 |
| Belutz | it's mine ;) | 05:38 |
| Belutz | too bad i don't have that "ubuntu sticker on laptop" :p | 05:38 |
| jsgotangco | mine doesn't either..its either the gnu sticker from stallman or a firefox sticker | 05:40 |
| jsgotangco | i'll add you as a flickr contact =) | 05:41 |
| Belutz | well i got a debian conference sticker, but i want the ubuntu one to be the one sticking on my laptop :p | 05:41 |
| Belutz | jsgotangco, ok :) | 05:41 |
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| Belutz | lol :D | 05:42 |
| Belutz | they are my classmates | 05:42 |
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| Madpilot | Burgwork: pink | 06:36 |
| Madpilot | ping, even... | 06:36 |
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| Burgwork | Madpilot, pong | 06:50 |
| Madpilot | Burgwork: morning | 06:54 |
| mdke_ | evening | 06:58 |
| Burgwork | salut mdke_ | 06:58 |
| Madpilot | not here - that CC meeting started at 0600 my time :P | 06:58 |
| mdke_ | ah crap | 06:58 |
| mdke_ | forgot about that | 06:58 |
| mdke_ | did LaserJock get through ok? | 06:58 |
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| Madpilot | yes | 06:59 |
| Madpilot | I dragged myself out of bed, wanted to see what the CC meetings were like before I subject myself to the Membership grilling sometime in the new year | 07:00 |
| mdke_ | cool | 07:00 |
| mdke_ | Madpilot, i was thinking recently perhaps we can get together with rob1 and have a quick meeting about some things on the desktopguide | 07:00 |
| mdke_ | i want to do some writing on it but I really want to get a couple of general policy things clear in my head | 07:01 |
| Madpilot | mdke_: sure - maybe mail the list so we can arrange a time? | 07:01 |
| === mdke_ nods | ||
| Burgwork | http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=99683 | 07:02 |
| Madpilot | mdke_: where are you located, timezone-wise? | 07:02 |
| mdke_ | utc | 07:02 |
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| Madpilot | that's easy to remember, then ;) | 07:03 |
| Burgwork | Madpilot, feel sorry for the man, he lives in london | 07:03 |
| Madpilot | nah, there are far worse places | 07:03 |
| mdke_ | sure | 07:04 |
| mdke_ | canada for one | 07:04 |
| mdke_ | everyone has two halves to their head | 07:04 |
| mdke_ | i saw it on south park | 07:04 |
| Madpilot | sure, south park = gospel truth :P | 07:04 |
| mdke | yeap | 07:05 |
| mdke | they have some accurate things about british people too | 07:05 |
| mdke | ok -> home | 07:07 |
| mdke | WaterSevenUb, no, i don't think we can fix that in an -update. It's language updates only I think. | 07:08 |
| mdke | WaterSevenUb, apart from the fact that I don't have any idea how to fix it at all | 07:08 |
| mdke | just read the portugese! | 07:08 |
| mdke | ok -> home | 07:09 |
| WaterSevenUb | mdke,portugese=portuguese:-) | 07:26 |
| WaterSevenUb | mdke, yeah.. I've been looking to the source of ubuntu-docs and I can't find anything wrong. | 07:26 |
| WaterSevenUb | mdke, perhaps something with yelp. | 07:26 |
| jjesse | are we at the point that the desktopguide is set enough to copy and start changing for kubuntu? | 07:31 |
| Madpilot | at least in the common-tasks.xml, there are still a fair number of sections that just have "To be written." in them... | 07:33 |
| jjesse | well if the have to be written,then they might be distro specific? | 07:34 |
| jjesse | its been awhile since i looked at the desktopguide | 07:34 |
| Madpilot | it's fairly Gnome-specific | 07:35 |
| jjesse | so if those parts are gnome-specific then i can start going after them in a kde way | 07:39 |
| jjesse | sorry for the delay that's what you get when the boss shows up :) | 07:40 |
| Madpilot | heh | 07:40 |
| Madpilot | certainly the parts I've re-written are pure Gnome - Synaptic, Nautilus, Serpentine, etc etc... | 07:41 |
| jjesse | i sent rob1 a question via emailthe other day haven't heard back | 07:41 |
| Madpilot | jjesse: mdke was talking about an IRC meeting for desktop guide; we should organize a time thru the mailing list | 07:42 |
| jjesse | Madpilot: i would be intereseted in that | 07:42 |
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| Anoop | hi anybody there? | 09:46 |
| mdke | Anoop, hello | 09:47 |
| Anoop | hi i have a prob with ubuntu | 09:47 |
| mdke | Anoop, what sort of problem? | 09:47 |
| Anoop | be patient with me and i will explain this serious prob i am having | 09:47 |
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| mdke | Anoop, if it is related to documentation, I can help | 09:47 |
| mdke | Anoop, otherwise, you need #ubuntu | 09:47 |
| Anoop | i installed breezy badger on a toshiba satellite m-45 s355 laptop | 09:47 |
| Anoop | k | 09:48 |
| Anoop | not documentation | 09:48 |
| mdke | :) | 09:48 |
| Anoop | so i should join 3ubuntu | 09:48 |
| Anoop | sorry #ubuntu then | 09:48 |
| mdke | yeah they will help you out | 09:48 |
| Anoop | thanks u very much | 09:48 |
| mdke | np | 09:49 |
| mdke | good luclk | 09:49 |
| mdke | luck* | 09:49 |
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| bshumate | hiyas! | 11:48 |
| bshumate | how do i use the role attribute of the emphasis tag in the context of Ubuntu documentation? | 11:48 |
| mdke | hi bshumate | 11:48 |
| mdke | i don't know, but I can point you to a guide that does | 11:48 |
| bshumate | ok! | 11:48 |
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| mdke | bshumate, it should be somewhere in here | 11:50 |
| mdke | http://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/index.html | 11:50 |
| mdke | http://www.docbook.org/tdg/en/html/docbook.html | 11:52 |
| mdke | maybe that is useful too | 11:52 |
| mdke | actually, probably way more useful | 11:52 |
| bshumate | rockin...i am really getting into the Docbook...and viewing in Yelp is so much better than guessing at what the XML ends up rendering as....thanks! | 11:53 |
| bshumate | ahh, so the role attribute is a generic thing then it appears...i thought maybe the contents of role would be used in a manner specific to ubuntu. boy have i got a lot to learn... | 11:55 |
| mdke | heh | 11:55 |
| mdke | bshumate, sounds like you're doing fine to me | 11:56 |
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