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| BenC | jbailey: there are already | 12:36 |
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| BenC | linux-headers-2.6.15-6-386, for example | 12:36 |
| ispiked | mjg59: ping | 12:39 |
| mjg59 | ispiked: Hi | 12:42 |
| ispiked | mjg59: I hate to bug you, but I'm wondering why fn+f1 doesn't put my laptop to sleep. the keycode appears to be registered, and I could've sworn this used to work. | 12:43 |
| mjg59 | ispiked: What hardware? | 12:50 |
| ispiked | mjg59: the same as you. | 12:50 |
| ispiked | mjg59: dell d610. | 12:50 |
| mjg59 | Have you got the latest acpi-support ? | 12:50 |
| ispiked | yeah. did that break it? | 12:51 |
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| ispiked | I'm pretty sure I can suspend using logout > suspend with the latest acpi-support package. | 12:51 |
| ispiked | I'm headed out now. be back later. | 12:52 |
| mjg59 | Hm. Not sure, then. | 12:53 |
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| mjg59 | BenC: So, is the idea to switch to the libata PATA drivers where possible? | 01:28 |
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| ispiked | mjg59: where is that button's action configured? | 04:23 |
| mjg59 | ispiked: /etc/acpi/events | 04:23 |
| ispiked | mjg59: same deal with the logout action? | 04:25 |
| ispiked | http://rafb.net/paste/results/lcTK1z80.html | 04:25 |
| mjg59 | ispiked: Uhm. Which logout action? | 04:25 |
| ispiked | "suspend the computer" | 04:26 |
| mjg59 | Oh, the Gnome one? No, that triggers gdm to execute pmi | 04:26 |
| ispiked | mjg59: what is that? | 04:27 |
| mjg59 | It's a script that ends up executing /etc/acpi/sleep.sh, so it's broadly the same | 04:27 |
| ispiked | it'd be nice if scroll lock would work (with the light, too). | 04:34 |
| ispiked | might file a bug for that. | 04:34 |
| mjg59 | BenC: ata_piix + added PCI ID drives my Thinkpad fine | 05:18 |
| fabbione | morning | 06:06 |
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| infinity | mjg59 : Who do I complain to that my 'screen close' button no longer triggers a screen lock? | 08:21 |
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| dhpeterson | hi ... breezy install fails for me ... it's a uhci_hcd issue ... can anyone here help? | 09:16 |
| dhpeterson | i have checked ubuntu bugzilla and debian BTS and it's not a dupe | 09:16 |
| dhpeterson | i want to raise a bug report but i don't know which package and where to do so, etc | 09:16 |
| crimsun | file it on bugzilla.ubuntu.com against 'linux' | 09:27 |
| dhpeterson | okay | 09:27 |
| dhpeterson | what severity ... both hoary and breezy installers don't complete. is that a critical? | 09:27 |
| dhpeterson | btw same for the debian sarge installer | 09:27 |
| dhpeterson | interestingly, knoppix 2.6 _does_ boot successfully | 09:28 |
| infinity | Does our livecd boot? | 09:28 |
| dhpeterson | neither live nor install works | 09:29 |
| infinity | Saying "a livecd boots" and "the installer fails" don't relate much. | 09:29 |
| dhpeterson | live cd and install cd fail in the same place | 09:29 |
| infinity | Okay, if the livecd doesn't work either, then please, file a bug, lots of fun debug output, blah blah. | 09:29 |
| dhpeterson | sorry if i was ambiguous | 09:29 |
| infinity | Severity is normal. | 09:29 |
| dhpeterson | okay i will prepare a bug report, thanks | 09:30 |
| fabbione | BenC: | 10:25 |
| fabbione | [ 1067.366233] bcm43xx: Invalid PHY Revision 7 | 10:25 |
| fabbione | [ 1199.264579] bcm43xx: FIXME: Possibly broken code in bcm43xx_phy_setupg() at drivers/net/wireless/bcm43xx/bcm43xx_phy.c:346 | 10:25 |
| fabbione | the driver loads and the board is initialized | 10:25 |
| fabbione | but i can't get it to associate with my AP | 10:25 |
| fabbione | i think i am getting that error when trying to force to use 11M | 10:26 |
| fabbione | it's probably the model that's not fully supported for my understanding of the code | 10:27 |
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| jbailey | fabbione, BenC: Next time one of you are twiddling the kernel configs, CONFIG_CRAMFS=y can probably go away now. | 02:04 |
| jbailey | Need to double check with Colin, but I don't think d-i uses it at all. | 02:05 |
| BenC | ok | 02:10 |
| fabbione | hey BenC | 02:11 |
| fabbione | i was just talking with Kamion | 02:11 |
| fabbione | i did fix a couple of kernel d-i things for him | 02:11 |
| fabbione | mind to pull from my repo? | 02:11 |
| BenC | doing that now | 02:12 |
| fabbione | thanks | 02:12 |
| fabbione | hmmm | 02:14 |
| fabbione | if you have time it would be a good idea to fire up a full build on sparc | 02:14 |
| fabbione | mine is chaoking on OOo2, gcc-3.4 and gcj-4.1 | 02:14 |
| fabbione | these d-i changes are always hairy without a build | 02:14 |
| fabbione | the other arches are ok | 02:14 |
| BenC | I do full builds on all 6 arches before release | 02:15 |
| fabbione | ah cool | 02:16 |
| fabbione | even better | 02:16 |
| BenC | sparc64 is done in 12 minutes, so it's easiest :) | 02:16 |
| fabbione | BenC: i was wondering.. can i get access to your sparc somehow that doesn't distrurb you? | 02:16 |
| fabbione | disturb | 02:16 |
| BenC | yeah, I can try setting that up today | 02:16 |
| fabbione | since you use the box for testing | 02:16 |
| fabbione | i could just use it while you sleep to push some big pkgs to a fine tuned buildd there | 02:17 |
| fabbione | and skip stuff like gcc-* here | 02:17 |
| fabbione | i will send you my ssh key | 02:17 |
| fabbione | no need to run TODAY | 02:17 |
| fabbione | sometimes, when you have time | 02:17 |
| BenC | sure thing, I'll setup dchroot for you and sudo access inside that chroot | 02:18 |
| fabbione | nah | 02:18 |
| fabbione | i will send you a chroot :) | 02:18 |
| BenC | ok, just send a url, and I'll unpack the chroot :) | 02:18 |
| fabbione | BenC: sure.. i just need to pack it first ;) | 02:20 |
| BenC | don't forget your rootkit :) | 02:21 |
| fabbione | of course :) | 02:21 |
| fabbione | it's funny when people tell us: "no you can't get access to my machine to debug this kernel problem.." | 02:22 |
| fabbione | they really make me laugh | 02:22 |
| fabbione | they don't realize we do actually build that kernel for them :) | 02:22 |
| fabbione | we have kernel privileges! | 02:22 |
| fabbione | and they don't see it :P | 02:22 |
| BenC | yeah, lol | 02:23 |
| BenC | "if I wanted your machine, it'd already be DoS'ing the whitehouse by now" | 02:24 |
| fabbione | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FabioMassimoDiNitto <- | 02:25 |
| fabbione | that was like: zul meets fabbione, fabbione meets zul | 02:25 |
| === BenC lol | ||
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| zul | hey sorry i havent been around. | 02:43 |
| fabbione | BenC: chinstrap:/home/fabbione/sparc-chroot-dapper.tar.bz2 | 02:43 |
| fabbione | BenC: and i am off for a nap :) | 02:43 |
| fabbione | hey zul | 02:43 |
| fabbione | later fellas | 02:44 |
| crimsun | cya fabbione | 02:44 |
| BenC | bye fabbione | 02:46 |
| zul | hey fabbione, bye fabbione | 02:46 |
| mjg59 | infinity: Oh, yeah, that one's my fault | 02:56 |
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| mjg59 | BenC: About? | 03:13 |
| BenC | yeah | 03:13 |
| BenC | mjg59: pong | 03:14 |
| mjg59 | BenC: What's the long-term plan with all these libata PATA drivers? | 03:15 |
| BenC | see how they go, and if they start breaking shit, back them out | 03:15 |
| BenC | unless I can fix them (or jgarzik can help me) | 03:15 |
| mjg59 | The obvious breakage is that drives will move from hda to sda | 03:16 |
| BenC | I don't think he's keen on me using them in the dist | 03:16 |
| BenC | hmm | 03:16 |
| mjg59 | On the other hand, it means we can do hotswap properly | 03:16 |
| BenC | upgrades will get messy though | 03:16 |
| BenC | maybe I can default the combined_mode to IDE | 03:17 |
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| BenC | until lately I hadn't realized how much of a mess things were between ide and ata/sata/pata | 03:17 |
| BenC | what do you suggest? | 03:21 |
| jbailey | mjg59: re: s/hda/sda/ - I wonder if there's any reasonable way to move systems to by-uuid for booting and mounting? | 03:22 |
| BenC | I've always liked that method | 03:23 |
| jbailey | Part of udevroadmap is to do that for new installs in d-i anyway, so it's just transitioning people to the New World Order. | 03:23 |
| BenC | same thing with iftab for network interfaces | 03:23 |
| jbailey | I don't know iftab | 03:23 |
| mjg59 | BenC: The libata drivers are pretty untested, but /ought/ to work | 03:23 |
| BenC | iftab gives network interfaces their names based on mac address | 03:23 |
| mjg59 | But when we upload a kernel with them in, there's going to be breakage | 03:23 |
| BenC | I think I'll disable them for now, until we get this sorted out | 03:24 |
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| infinity | mjg59 : Is this new behaviour intentional, or a bug? :) | 03:51 |
| infinity | mjg59 : (I've always used my "screen close" button as a quick shortcut to "I'm walking away from the laptop for 5 minutes, lock the screen") | 03:51 |
| mjg59 | infinity: bug | 03:53 |
| mjg59 | I fucked up the environment variable check | 03:53 |
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| jbailey_ | BenC: Just had my X hang on ppc64 again. Interesting that this time a kill -9 of Xorg doesn't make it go away. | 04:50 |
| jbailey_ | BenC: Anything I can usefully collect for you for a bug report before I hit the shiny switch? | 04:50 |
| BenC | check dmesg | 04:50 |
| BenC | and "cat /proc/<pid>/wchan" if the X pid | 04:51 |
| jbailey_ | no oops in dmesg | 04:51 |
| BenC | I have a feeling you are hitting a drm issue | 04:51 |
| jbailey_ | I did the cat a dozen times, each in .__start | 04:51 |
| BenC | hmm, that's an odd place | 04:52 |
| BenC | is the process in D state this time? | 04:52 |
| jbailey_ | 5603 root 25 0 0 0 0 R 100 0.0 11:06.14 Xorg | 04:52 |
| jbailey_ | (from top) | 04:52 |
| jbailey_ | It was taking up a bunch of ram before I kill -9'd it. | 04:52 |
| BenC | is that 100% CPU usage? | 04:52 |
| jbailey_ | Yes. | 04:53 |
| BenC | all the memory usage is gone, and it's hanging | 04:53 |
| BenC | that's an odd one :) | 04:53 |
| jbailey_ | Shall I strace it? | 04:53 |
| BenC | yeah | 04:53 |
| jbailey_ | # strace -p 5603 | 04:53 |
| jbailey_ | attach: ptrace(PTRACE_ATTACH, ...): Operation not permitted | 04:53 |
| jbailey_ | Should I try the ppc32 kernel to see if it recurs there? | 04:54 |
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| BenC | infinity: ping | 05:19 |
| infinity | pong... ish. | 05:39 |
| infinity | 3:30am and heading to bed. | 05:39 |
| infinity | So, uhh.... make it quick. :) | 05:39 |
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| infinity | BenC : Alright, whatever you were pinging for, you missed your chance. ail me, or catch me tomorrow. | 05:47 |
| === infinity -> bed, finally. | ||
| BenC | hey | 05:47 |
| BenC | sorry | 05:48 |
| dilinger | will dapper kernels work on breezy? | 05:48 |
| infinity | Oh. You are here. | 05:48 |
| dilinger | i'm gonna try getting this smp opteron box stable w/ some 2.6.15 love | 05:48 |
| infinity | On breezy servers or desktops? | 05:48 |
| BenC | infinity: next time prepend "BenC" to the pong so I actually get an audio feedback :) | 05:48 |
| infinity | udev will probably blow up on desktops. | 05:48 |
| dilinger | infinity: both | 05:48 |
| dilinger | infinity: so i'd just need to backport udev? | 05:48 |
| BenC | dilinger: you'll have to sync a few packages to dapper aswell | 05:48 |
| BenC | mainly udev, and ditch hotplug | 05:49 |
| infinity | BenC : Well?.. :) | 05:49 |
| dilinger | ok | 05:49 |
| dilinger | thanks | 05:49 |
| dilinger | i'll give it a shot on my laptop, first | 05:49 |
| dilinger | and once i'm locked out of a usable system, i'll try the opteron server ;) | 05:49 |
| BenC | infinity: should/could I add server-{low,high}end to lrm? | 05:49 |
| infinity | Hrm. | 05:50 |
| infinity | Are we building wireless drivers for -server targets? | 05:50 |
| BenC | dilinger: you should be able to add dapper to sources.list, and install the kernel, and then remove it | 05:50 |
| BenC | infinity: right now, -server is just a tuned version of the normal targets (HZ, disable-preempt) | 05:51 |
| BenC | same hw support | 05:51 |
| infinity | I assume that might change? | 05:51 |
| infinity | For now, I wouldn't bother. We'll discuss it later. | 05:51 |
| BenC | highend supports numa/bigsmp/summit/es7000 targets | 05:51 |
| BenC | ok | 05:51 |
| infinity | If we want atheros and acx_pci support, we'll have to do it. | 05:51 |
| infinity | I may want to tweak things to not bother including the video crap on -server targets. | 05:52 |
| BenC | well, all the kernel video crap is in there too | 05:52 |
| infinity | I hope that will go away. | 05:52 |
| BenC | me too | 05:52 |
| infinity | But, yeah. Let's discuss it tomorrow. | 05:53 |
| infinity | If you're doing an LRM/linux-meta ABI bump tonight, just leave restricted out of the server stuff in linux-meta for now. | 05:53 |
| infinity | We'll sort it later when we're sure what we want. | 05:53 |
| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-kernel:BenC] : Ubuntu kernel development discussion ONLY | New git tree for dapper: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelGitGuide | 2.6.15-7.9 uploaded (The "My momma made me do it" release) | ||
| BenC | ok | 05:54 |
| fabbione | ehhehe | 05:54 |
| fabbione | cool | 05:54 |
| fabbione | new crack :) | 05:54 |
| fabbione | BenC: btw.. it's GO on ppc.. or at least it was last pull i did | 05:54 |
| fabbione | dunno if you read the scrollback | 05:54 |
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| fabbione | i did also test the Airport Extreme2 driver | 05:54 |
| fabbione | but it fails on me | 05:54 |
| BenC | mjg59 got it working | 05:55 |
| mdz_ | BenC: are you getting any feedback on CD-ROM/DMA issues since we switched to 2.6.15? | 05:55 |
| BenC | you have to do some manual shit | 05:55 |
| mjg59 | fabbione: I had to do: | 05:55 |
| BenC | mdz: zero | 05:55 |
| mdz_ | interesting | 05:55 |
| BenC | only thing I've heard about cdrom was the atapi stuff with sata controllers | 05:55 |
| BenC | and that was a seperate issue | 05:55 |
| mdz_ | I thought we'd fixed that long ago | 05:56 |
| mjg59 | iwconfig foo essid bar; iwconfig foo channel baz; ifconfig foo up; iwlist scan; iwconfig foo essid bang | 05:56 |
| infinity | BenC : Keybuk fed you a patch for ide stuff that fixed mdz's DMA issues, no? | 05:56 |
| BenC | infinity: yes | 05:56 |
| infinity | (And the CDROM on sata thing should be fixed in this upload too, right?) | 05:56 |
| mdz_ | BenC: is that in -7.9? | 05:56 |
| fabbione | mjg59: trying now.. but i have no idea what chan i am using | 05:56 |
| BenC | it wasn't dma directly, it was ide-generic/modular-ide crack | 05:56 |
| fabbione | mjg59: how can i figure that out? | 05:56 |
| mdz_ | BenC: is modular ide a bad idea? why isn't it upstream? | 05:57 |
| fabbione | mdz_: IDE maintainer is a pain | 05:57 |
| infinity | BenC : For LRM's ABI bump, you should be able to just bump "abi_version" in debian/rules, add a new changelog entry, and build the source package. (make sure you have kernel-wedge installed) | 05:57 |
| infinity | BenC : Should be smooth sailing. | 05:57 |
| BenC | breezy's ide was that it loaded all the ide controller drivers, and then ide-generic, and let them fight it out, then removed any that didn't win | 05:57 |
| BenC | that doesn't work for dapper | 05:57 |
| BenC | infinity: yeah, I have it ready to upload once I see a success report for atleast one arch :) | 05:58 |
| infinity | BenC : Rock. | 05:58 |
| infinity | Kay, I'm off to bed, then. We'll revisit the LRM-on-server-kernels thing later. | 05:58 |
| BenC | mdz: the way breezy handled drivers grabbing devices was bad | 05:58 |
| mdz_ | mjg59: my T42 with 2.6.15-6 failed to come back from STR today | 05:58 |
| BenC | dapper will low the correct drivers instead of doing a free-for-all | 05:59 |
| BenC | s/low/load/ | 05:59 |
| mjg59 | mdz_: When suspended, did it have the hard drive LED on? | 05:59 |
| mdz_ | (previously /sys/power/state was empty, but that's fixed now) | 05:59 |
| mdz_ | mjg59: it wasn't on when I tried to resume at least | 05:59 |
| BenC | if anything doesn't get loaded, or is loaded incorrectly, Keybuk assures me he will correct it in initramfs :) | 05:59 |
| mdz_ | the moon light was on, though the fan was still running | 06:00 |
| mjg59 | mdz_: If the fan was still running, it hadn't suspended | 06:00 |
| mdz_ | or maybe it was just radiating heat | 06:00 |
| mdz_ | anyway it was hot | 06:00 |
| mjg59 | Right | 06:00 |
| mjg59 | Sounds like it froze on the way down | 06:00 |
| mjg59 | I've had my Thinkpad do something like that. I'll look into it. | 06:00 |
| mdz_ | any testing I can do? | 06:00 |
| fabbione | mjg59: do you get this in your dmesg: [26120.102096] bcm43xx: FIXME: Possibly broken code in bcm43xx_phy_setupg() at drivers/net/wireless/bcm43xx/bcm43xx_phy.c:346 | 06:01 |
| BenC | mdz: btw, I don't think we are going to do kernel-wedge and kernel-package merging for dapper | 06:01 |
| mjg59 | See if it's reproducible? | 06:01 |
| mjg59 | fabbione: Yeah | 06:01 |
| fabbione | mjg59: hmmmm | 06:01 |
| mdz_ | BenC: something scary there? | 06:01 |
| fabbione | what channel should i use? | 06:01 |
| BenC | things work for us now, and kernel-package 10 in debian is way way way different | 06:01 |
| mjg59 | fabbione: Whatever channel your AP is on | 06:01 |
| fabbione | mjg59: i have no clue... | 06:01 |
| BenC | we have patches in wedge and package for powerpc stuff, and custom update-initramfs usage | 06:01 |
| mjg59 | fabbione: iwlist scan should tell you | 06:02 |
| === fabbione tries again from scratch | ||
| BenC | mdz: it's not impossible to merge those into the new packages, just that there's no pressing need to do so, that I can see | 06:02 |
| mdz_ | BenC: bugfixes? | 06:02 |
| mdz_ | that's the usual reason | 06:02 |
| BenC | most of the bugs fixes between our version and 10 in debian, is fixing things that broke when they split the debian/rules file up | 06:03 |
| BenC | mdz: -7.9 has -server kernels for i386, btw | 06:05 |
| mdz_ | BenC: so it'll need queue/new processing on i386? | 06:05 |
| BenC | yes | 06:05 |
| BenC | it's an abi bump anyway | 06:06 |
| mdz_ | ah, right | 06:06 |
| mdz_ | BenC: what's new and cool in the server flavour? | 06:06 |
| makx | Keybuk: could you take a look at debian #342057, BusLogic not loaded because !sysfs (seems needed for vmware testing of initramfs-tools). | 06:06 |
| BenC | abi tracking will start with this upload too | 06:06 |
| BenC | mdz: HZ is down to 100 (suggested for server), and preempt is disables (enabled for desktop) | 06:06 |
| BenC | that's for low/high end server | 06:06 |
| BenC | highend also has generic bigsmp/numa/summit/es7000 support | 06:07 |
| BenC | 64CPU max, and 64Gig max | 06:07 |
| mdz_ | BenC: sounds like material for https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes | 06:08 |
| mdz_ | BenC: please add an entry there under the server section | 06:08 |
| BenC | ok | 06:08 |
| fabbione | mdz_: the -server kernels will land only on the -server CD | 06:09 |
| fabbione | we will install by default the low end, with high end available | 06:09 |
| BenC | would be nice if we could detect highend | 06:10 |
| fabbione | mjg59: do you have a 54M net at home? | 06:12 |
| mjg59 | fabbione: No | 06:12 |
| fabbione | did you force the speed? | 06:12 |
| mjg59 | Yup | 06:12 |
| mjg59 | Sorry, forgot to mention that | 06:12 |
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| fabbione | ;) | 06:12 |
| mjg59 | It doesn't do speed autonegotiation properly yet | 06:12 |
| fabbione | where in that process? | 06:12 |
| fabbione | or just after | 06:12 |
| fabbione | my ap doesn't feel the mac at all | 06:13 |
| fabbione | actually | 06:14 |
| fabbione | did you use dhcp on top? | 06:14 |
| fabbione | or just static | 06:14 |
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| mjg59 | Either | 06:16 |
| mjg59 | dmesg should show that it's authenticated if it's been successful | 06:16 |
| BenC | mdz: added | 06:16 |
| fabbione | [ 450.499743] SoftMAC: Sending Authentication Request to 00:04:e2:d9:0a:dc. | 06:17 |
| fabbione | it doesn't when i am in 11MB | 06:17 |
| mjg59 | fabbione: I think it ought to get a response, too | 06:17 |
| fabbione | that's my neibourgh AP | 06:17 |
| mjg59 | 802.11g speeds currently don't work | 06:17 |
| fabbione | that's at 54MB | 06:17 |
| mjg59 | Set it to 11 and then set the essid again? | 06:17 |
| fabbione | o | 06:17 |
| BenC | maybe the AP is configured for g-only? | 06:17 |
| fabbione | nope | 06:19 |
| fabbione | i don't see any outgoing request to/from my AP | 06:19 |
| fabbione | not even in dmesg | 06:19 |
| fabbione | BenC: my ap is 11 only | 06:19 |
| fabbione | it definetely can't do more than that | 06:19 |
| BenC | ah | 06:19 |
| mjg59 | fabbione: Does iwconfig show the correct essid and frequency? | 06:19 |
| fabbione | i was trying my neighbour only becuase it's 54MB :) | 06:19 |
| fabbione | i can see the frequency keep changing | 06:20 |
| fabbione | otherwise the essid is fine | 06:20 |
| mjg59 | Uhm. | 06:20 |
| fabbione | i wonder if the fact that i am not broadcasting the essid might confuse the driver | 06:20 |
| mjg59 | Have you explicitly set the channel? | 06:20 |
| fabbione | yes | 06:20 |
| mjg59 | Yes, that might currently break it, I guess | 06:20 |
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| fabbione | *cough*fuck cisco*cough* | 06:22 |
| fabbione | i can't even find how to do it again | 06:25 |
| fabbione | woo | 06:40 |
| fabbione | mjg59: i got the AP to see the interface and viceversa | 06:41 |
| mjg59 | Any joy? | 06:41 |
| fabbione | but no IP joy | 06:41 |
| mjg59 | Cool | 06:41 |
| fabbione | [ 557.190722] SoftMAC: Sending Authentication Request to 00:02:8a:21:18:59. | 06:41 |
| mjg59 | Try configuring it manually rather than using dhcp? | 06:41 |
| fabbione | yes | 06:41 |
| fabbione | that's what i am doing right now | 06:41 |
| fabbione | no joy either | 06:43 |
| fabbione | it complains about authentication | 06:43 |
| fabbione | but i have no authentication config on my AP | 06:43 |
| fabbione | only filters by mac-address | 06:43 |
| BenC | so it's open, no wep/wap? | 06:43 |
| fabbione | nope | 06:45 |
| fabbione | if i run iwscan list a few times in a raw i see the AP at intervals.. | 06:47 |
| fabbione | but that might be normal | 06:47 |
| mjg59 | How does it complain? | 06:48 |
| makx | BenC: getting bugreports on debian initramfs-tools of !sysfs drivers that are fixed in your tree? | 06:51 |
| fabbione | SoftMAC: Rates not sorted! | 06:51 |
| fabbione | SoftMAC: Authentication timed out with 00:02:8a:21:18:59 | 06:52 |
| makx | BenC: could you push those to linus, are they already in mm? | 06:52 |
| BenC | makx: uh, say that again? :) | 06:52 |
| BenC | I'm not sure what you mean | 06:52 |
| makx | buslogic has sysfs support in your tree for example. :) | 06:53 |
| fabbione | mjg59: i will fight with it tomorrow again.. gotta cook dinner | 06:53 |
| BenC | s/sysfs/module-device-table/ you mean? | 06:53 |
| makx | indeed magic keyword. | 06:53 |
| BenC | it's not proper support, it's just a hack to get udev/hotplug to load the driver | 06:54 |
| BenC | for linus to take it, the driver(s) would also need to be converted over to the PCI callbacks for hotplug support | 06:54 |
| BenC | right now they only probe when loaded, if you insert a new device, the module has to be unloaded/loaded again to probe it | 06:55 |
| BenC | these are the same things we had in breezy | 06:55 |
| jbailey | BenC: Is he being all prissy now about correctness? Sheesh. ;) | 06:55 |
| BenC | it's a convenience, but IMO, it's lying to have a module-device-table and not be able to support the hotplug callbacks for which is was designed for :) | 06:56 |
| BenC | makx: what are the chances that debian would want to clone ubuntu's git tree, and sync non debian/* changes? | 06:57 |
| BenC | the major thing would be some of the non-free stuff that debian would want to ignore (and purge from it's branch) | 06:58 |
| dilinger | BenC: i assume the git tree includes all the external drivers and patches? | 07:04 |
| dilinger | debian doesn't really want to maintain that stuff, they'd only be interested in bugfixes | 07:04 |
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| CataEnry | Hi | 07:14 |
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| fabbione | BenC: you didn't pull the last changes to d-i? | 07:18 |
| fabbione | they are not in the changelog | 07:23 |
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| fabbione | BenC: if you can do that Kamion will love you | 07:29 |
| fabbione | perhpas fire up a 7.10 right away? | 07:29 |
| fabbione | bbl | 07:29 |
| BenC | I did a pull and saw two changes from you in git-log | 07:29 |
| fabbione | yes | 07:29 |
| fabbione | but the changelog in the archive doesn't have them | 07:30 |
| fabbione | * Stop providing ext2-modules and ship it for all arches. | 07:30 |
| BenC | not sure why, did you commit it? | 07:30 |
| fabbione | it's missing | 07:30 |
| fabbione | oh crap | 07:30 |
| BenC | ext2-modules is not listed in debian/control, so I assume all is well | 07:30 |
| fabbione | i didn't commit the changelog | 07:31 |
| BenC | heh, shame on you :) | 07:31 |
| fabbione | if you check debian/d-i/i386/package-list | 07:31 |
| fabbione | # This file is used to build up the control file. The kernel version and | 07:32 |
| fabbione | # "-di" are appended to the package names. Section can be left out. So can | 07:32 |
| fabbione | # architecture, which is derived from the files in the modules directory. | 07:32 |
| fabbione | # It overwrites specifications from /usr/share/kernel-wedge/package-list. | 07:32 |
| fabbione | # | 07:32 |
| fabbione | Package: kernel-image | 07:32 |
| fabbione | Package: fat-modules | 07:32 |
| fabbione | Priority: standard | 07:32 |
| fabbione | it should look like that | 07:32 |
| BenC | yeah, it does | 07:33 |
| fabbione | ok | 07:33 |
| fabbione | do you have d-i/sparc/modules/sparc64/ext2-modules ? | 07:33 |
| BenC | yep | 07:33 |
| fabbione | great | 07:34 |
| fabbione | than it's missing only the changelog entry | 07:34 |
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| fabbione | thanks dude | 07:34 |
| fabbione | sorry for the panix | 07:34 |
| fabbione | panic | 07:34 |
| BenC | no problem :) | 07:35 |
| fabbione | i did add the changelog entry and committed it for the sake of completness | 07:36 |
| fabbione | it should be in my archive if you want to pull it | 07:36 |
| fabbione | and i must run to cook now :) | 07:36 |
| fabbione | later | 07:36 |
| BenC | later | 07:37 |
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| makx | BenC: zero. | 11:14 |
| dilinger | heh | 11:14 |
| makx | you tree went in completly different direction. | 11:14 |
| dilinger | unless ubuntu kept feature additions in a separate tree.. | 11:14 |
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| mdke | hi all. my laptop doesn't get very far into the boot process due to (i think) the hard drive getting a new device name under the new dapper system, I wondered if anyone fancied some debugging with me? | 11:16 |
| makx | hmm what's your root on? | 11:17 |
| mdke | it is on /dev/sda7 | 11:17 |
| mdke | or rather, it was | 11:17 |
| mdke | i rather think that now it is on /dev/hda7 | 11:17 |
| makx | timing trouble with udev picking up ide-generic before your sata driver. | 11:17 |
| makx | do you have latest udev installed? | 11:17 |
| mdke | updated yesterday | 11:18 |
| makx | what does dpkg -l udev show? | 11:18 |
| mdke | today I can't get close enough to boot | 11:18 |
| makx | you don't have an old kernel to boot into??? | 11:18 |
| mdke | oh yeah i could do that | 11:18 |
| mdke | brb | 11:18 |
| makx | if your initramfs got update too you need to pass some boot param to break at some point. | 11:20 |
| makx | and then there is some manual stuff to load your right driver and kick off init. | 11:20 |
| mdke | makx, ok i can boot with the old kernel, but I had to reboot back into breezy again cos the network card isn't working | 11:25 |
| mdke | most of the initscripts didn't seem to start | 11:25 |
| mdke | anyhow, it is version 076 of udev | 11:25 |
| mdke | weird because I could boot yesterday, with the new kernel | 11:26 |
| makx | which revision | 11:26 |
| mdke | ubuntu5 | 11:26 |
| mdke | is that right? | 11:26 |
| makx | should be | 11:26 |
| mdke | oh well, no worky | 11:26 |
| makx | fabbione on #ubuntu-boot had the same trouble as you. | 11:27 |
| mdke | maybe we have similar laptops | 11:27 |
| mdke | fabbione, did you resolve? | 11:27 |
| mdke | this hard drive is weird, it is sda for warty, hda for hoary, and sda again for breezy :) | 11:28 |
| makx | well hda for hoary is because of the old kernel. | 11:28 |
| mdke | makx, ok so any ideas? shall i just file a bug? | 11:29 |
| makx | ooh changed from warty to hoary, then no idea.. | 11:29 |
| makx | well i'm debian initramfs-tools maintainer i could you get booted, but i've some work atm | 11:29 |
| mdke | i don't need to boot, but i'd like it to get fixed | 11:29 |
| mdke | so I'll file a bug | 11:30 |
| makx | then check if there is not already a bug around against udev/initramfs-tools? | 11:30 |
| makx | and add your lspci output info. | 11:30 |
| mdke | will do | 11:31 |
| mdke | will lspci from breezy be ok? | 11:31 |
| makx | yes. | 11:31 |
| mdke | makx, thanks for your help | 11:31 |
| makx | mdke: np, Keybuk on #ubuntu-boot is your udev dude. | 11:32 |
| mdke | yeah i will bother him | 11:32 |
| makx | he is not around atm. | 11:33 |
| mdke | no he isn't | 11:33 |
| mdke | he'll get my bug :) | 11:33 |
| lamont | BenC: elilo tested and working | 11:38 |
| BenC | with initramfs? | 11:38 |
| lamont | not yet | 11:39 |
| BenC | well good that you could get it to work, because I was not having any luck even with initrd :) | 11:39 |
| lamont | BenC: http://people.debian.org/~lamont/elilo.efi | 11:40 |
| lamont | drop that in your efi directory and see how things go | 11:40 |
| lamont | mind you, you may want to rename the existing one to something else first, | 11:41 |
| lamont | so you can rename it back from efi-shell to get a working system afterwards... :) | 11:41 |
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