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robotgeekn0dl: uninstaling xubuntu-desktop won't really remove any packages12:00
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gi2k15soundray, now I was able to umount, without -f12:00
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phiqtionsoundray: im on the live cd. it says casper-snapshot does not have any correspoding BIOS drive12:00
gi2k15soundray, but automount still doesn't work12:00
Millenniumgroupkhalif sudo mount /media/cdrom0/ -o unhide12:01
soundraygi2k15, are you using a mountpoint under /media ?12:01
Millenniumgroupsudo umount /media/cdrom0/12:01
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gi2k15soundray, yes12:01
erUSULMillenniumgroup, for things under media use pmount12:01
soundrayphiqtion, how did you get into this trouble?12:01
Millenniumgroupoh sorry you said iso12:01
Millenniumgroupsudo mkdir /media/iso12:01
Millenniumgroupsudo modprobe loop12:01
Millenniumgroupsudo mount file.iso /media/iso/ -t iso9660 -o loo12:01
phiqtionsoundray, trying to add a picture to the grub12:01
gi2k15soundray, /media/cdrom012:01
Millenniumgrouppmount, i'll remember that tx erusul12:02
soundraygi2k15, maybe mkdir /mnt/udfcd and mount the cd there.12:02
hkaisanybody here with an nforce mainboard under ubuntu?12:02
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soundraygi2k15, maybe it's nautilus touching the media mountdir.12:02
soundrayphiqtion, what are the symptoms when you boot the hd?12:02
Ninjaahi guys, im trying to extract a xampp download thats on my desktop into the opt folder, and i cant command line right though. anyone help ?12:03
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Shadowpillardamn damn damn12:03
Shadowpillarcan someone help me?12:03
phiqtionsoundray, grub loading, black screen. i press enter it says uncompressing linux. laptop restarts12:03
gi2k15soundray, but I could umount the CD now. I just can't automount. But anyway, I'll try to change the mount point to avoid more problems12:03
Shadowpillarsome reason, only root now has access to everything in the system12:03
tony_Shadowpillar:what?12:03
ShadowpillarI am quite fucked atm12:03
ShadowpillarI dunno what happened12:03
Millenniumgroupmaybe you did a sudo su?12:03
Shadowpillarbut suddenly, all non-root users couldnt access anything12:04
Shadowpillaryet12:04
Millenniumgroupjust type exit or kill -k12:04
gratuithow do I change my locale?12:04
Chris_in_the_ukany idea what tgetent is?12:04
!lilo:*! Hi all. New channel. Through some oversight, we apparently have no fetchmail channel. Well, we had no fetchmail channel. Now we do. Please stop by ##fetchmail if you're interested in helping. Thanks! :)12:04
ShadowpillarMillenniumgroup no12:04
soundraygi2k15, well, my suggestion was as a workaround to the umount problem. It cuts out automounting altogether.12:04
Millenniumgroupk12:04
Shadowpillarit affected everything12:04
ShadowpillarI'm on my debian server box12:04
Shadowpillaratm12:04
Shadowpillarmy ubuntu system's permissions are fine it seems12:04
Shadowpillarbut my user cannot login12:04
gi2k15soundray, yes, yes. At least now I can umount the CD. Thanks for your help o/12:04
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mkyb14is there a way in install a ".run" file... it's the ati installer for linux drivers and i dont' know the console command12:05
Shadowpillarno services can start12:05
jack_Hi! Can I recursively download only .jpg files from a given url using wget?12:05
_jason!enter12:05
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!12:05
vegossoundray12:05
soundrayphiqtion, what if you press the down key before enter on the black screen? Maybe it'll start the rescue kernel?12:05
khalifI'm trying to delete a folder that I created in my home folder. When I right-click on it and select move-to-trash, I get an error message that says that the trash protocol doesn't support creating folders. What gives?12:05
Shadowpillarcan anyone please help me?12:05
vegossoundray, that kernel is the wrong one i think12:05
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phiqtionsoundray, what does it do?12:05
vegossoundray, any ideas what the kernel could be, the initrd was right though12:05
ShadowpillarI'm in deep shit here12:05
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Taa5i_Has anyone ever had success in enabling an HP NetRaid controller under Ubuntu?12:06
Shadowpillarany suggestions?12:06
_jasonmkyb14, have you tried to follow the wiki instruction for ati first?12:06
soundrayphiqtion, it boots a moderately fail-safe kernel that may not have your reboot problem.12:06
Shadowpillarso12:06
phiqtionsoundray, and what should i do there?12:06
ShadowpillarWhy has ubuntu decided to lock me out of my own system?!12:06
Shadowpillarwhat the hell is this?12:06
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Chris_in_the_uk!tell Shadowpillar about enter12:06
Shadowpillarall non-root users are affected12:06
soundrayvegos, are you talking about the grub cmd line?12:06
vegosyeah12:07
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mkyb14the ones that someone sent me were for fixing a nonbootable computer12:07
Shadowpillar....12:07
erUSULShadowpillar, none i can think of,. if you somehow changed the permisions of everything you will have to reinstall12:07
sorush20is there a panoramic image creator in Linux ubuntu repositories?12:07
Chris_in_the_ukShadowpillar: can you log in as root?12:07
vegosthe initrd.img-2.6 is there12:07
soundrayphiqtion, revert the changes that got you into trouble.12:07
ShadowpillarerUSUL here's the thing, none of the permissions are changed12:07
_jasonubotu, tell mkyb14 about ati12:07
jen_erUSUL: Read the guide, enabled all of the repositories, but am getting an error message on the terminal..   http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/544212:07
vegossoundray, kernel-2.6 isnt12:07
khalifhow do I delete a folder?12:07
ShadowpillarChris_in_the_uk only if I do init=/bin/sh12:07
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ShadowpillarI try to sudo to my user and it denies me access12:08
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Chris_in_the_ukwhy?12:08
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Chris_in_the_ukShadowpillar: what is the error message?12:08
ShadowpillarChris_in_the_uk permission denied.12:08
soundrayvegos, the line is (hd0,2)/boot/vmlinuz-2.6 TAB. I'm really sorry.12:08
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khalifI created a folder in my home foldeer that I would now like to delete...12:08
Shadowpillarno services are starting...12:08
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jeff_hey guys12:09
Chris_in_the_ukShadowpillar: i'd reinstall12:09
thomerz!w32codecs12:09
vegossoundray, hahah no problem thanks12:09
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erUSULjen_, have you synaptic running while running the command?12:09
Chris_in_the_ukShadowpillar: but then again, i'm lazy12:09
Shadowpillar..so now I have to delete all my data....12:09
Shadowpillarthis is great.12:09
jeff_lol every time i come in here, somebody is telling some one about win32codecs12:09
Chris_in_the_ukshadowpillar: can you ssh in?12:09
Shadowpillarthis is real fucking great.12:09
Shadowpillarno12:09
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flankkShadowpillar, relax.  There is no root account in Ubuntu.  In fact, you will no longer be needing your user account.  All those services were just a waste of startup time, so I removed them.12:09
Shadowpillarnothing will start12:09
mkyb14how do i find my kernal version for thier commands on that ati installer12:09
Shadowpillarstfu flankk12:09
erUSULShadowline, copy the files somewhere with a livecd (knoppix is great)12:10
jeff_does anybody know why nautilus sucks?12:10
Millenniumgroupmkyb14 uname -r12:10
Chris_in_the_ukshadowpillar: you could always put the harddrive into a working linux box, mount it and copy the files12:10
SeveasShadowpillar: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct12:10
jen_erUSUL: the first time I tried it, I did. This time I tried it... http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/544312:10
Shadowpillar.....12:10
erUSULShadowline, and in rescue mode12:10
mwethere is a root account, but it has no password, by default12:10
jeff_its just so weak compared to konqueror12:10
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jen_erUSUL: That one is after closing synaptics12:10
jeff_is there any way to make nautilus betteR?12:10
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Millenniumgroupwow Shadowpillar what a nice guy...12:10
Chris_in_the_ukyes12:10
Seveasjeff_, apt-get source nautilus, hack away, send patches upstream12:10
Chris_in_the_uk...12:10
_jasonmkyb14, hat step?12:11
_jasonmkyb14, what*12:11
mkyb14uh this step12:11
mkyb14sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-<your-kernel-version> xorg-driver-fglrx12:11
jeff_seveas: lol i could try, but i meant in the form of downloadable patches or something12:11
blastermasteris there a way to get a soundblaster live 24bit to do harware sond mixing?12:11
flankkShadowline, I'd be inclined to help you if you calmed yourself and presented the situation clearly.12:11
Seveasjeff_, nautilus is fine the way it is :)12:11
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soundrayflankk, he's quit.12:12
kuraiaShadowpillar, you can do a root count in ubuntu12:12
_jasonmkyb14, what version of ubuntu are you using?12:12
erUSULjen_, you do not have multiverse enabled. try sudo apt-get update12:12
mkyb145.1012:12
Seveasjeff_, another option: make a wishlist of improvements and file it at the gnome bugzilla12:12
Millenniumgroupmkyb14 cat /proc/version12:12
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Millenniumgrouptells you what version you got (kernel) ^12:12
ale3hsany backport for Rhythmbox 0.9.2 ???12:12
jen_erUSUL: Done.12:12
_jasonmkyb14, I don't see that command in the wiki?  what number step?12:12
jeff_seveas: lol yeah its alright, but it feels so weak. ive gotten used to tabbed browsing and stuff in konq12:12
jeff_seveas: yeah i think im gonna do that12:12
jen_erUSUL: Said it fetched 4B in 6s. heh..12:12
erUSULjeff_, try again the install12:13
erUSULjen_, try again the install12:13
erUSULjen_, if it fails is becouse you do not have enabled multiverse12:13
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holycowi haveto say, the ubuntu wiki contains some of the most accessible linux/debian info i've ever seen12:14
Millenniumgroupwiki is always great :912:14
mkyb14http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1012:14
Millenniumgroupwiki is always great :)12:14
mkyb14first on on the list12:14
n0dlbrb12:14
os2macso I login into www.slashdot.org and look what was on the frontpage: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/12/05/191205&tid=131&tid=14612:14
_jasonmkyb14, the wiki instruction are a lot easier12:14
jeff_is there any way to make Gaim better? i mean with nice features?12:15
flankkholycow, I agree.  My productivity gains every time I am configuring wiFi and I stumble accross random goatses.12:15
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holycowis upower bootslpash going to replace usplash in ubuntu?12:15
Ninjaahi guys, im trying to extract a xampp thats on my desktop into the opt folder, and i cant get the command line right though. anyone help ?12:15
Seveasos2mac, you should read the fridge moet often12:15
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holycowflankk, rofl12:15
jen_erUSUL: I went to synaptics, chose setting->repositories... Every box is checked. Is that not where I enable it?12:15
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erUSUL!tell jen_ about repos12:16
erUSULjen_, iirc multiverse can not be enabled that way12:16
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_jasonjen_, press "add" after settings->repos and select multiverse12:16
soundraySeveas, sent off the CDs today. Am I efficient or what? :-D12:16
admodhi all12:17
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Seveassoundray, you're good :)12:17
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jen__jason: Ahh, I see now.12:17
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acer_question for everyone12:17
Mabus06Can anyone help me put an .avi file onto a cd or dvd I can watch on a dvd player? I don't care if it's a vcd using cds, or a dvd, or whatever. I just want this 673.9mb avi file viewable on a dvd player, willing to take whatever route possible to do so.12:17
GigaCloncan some help me with a error?12:17
_jasonacer_, 4212:18
Biscuitian_WarheHow do I setup a PPP connection to use CHAP MD5 authentication?12:18
Mabus06GigaClon, be a *tad* more specific.12:18
acer__jason ??12:18
GigaClonhow do I fix this problem?./widelands: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.6' not found (required by ./widelands)12:18
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soundrayMabus06, come on it's an ERROR! :)12:18
outofsightQuestion: How do I change my laptop's functional volume key to control front speaker instead of PCM?12:18
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_jasonacer_, nvr mnd, go ahead and ask your question for everyone12:18
vegossoundray, when i do the vmlinuz command it says that it must be an absolute pathname12:18
deusI got a mess here i have an api missmatch when i try to start up X, i need to choose a newer nvidia kernel module, that can be used with the X module 7667. How can i choose the correct module?12:19
SeveasGigaClon, by not using the software12:19
Killer_Smurfoutof sight when you find out let me know12:19
StEllisDo I need the install cd or the live cd for this case: I had to reformat my windows partition and now I cant boot to ubuntu12:19
SeveasGigaClon, you should recompile it to work on your system12:19
acer_Question:  I installed Breezy about a week ago and eventually got CD/DVD playback working but recently no disks will mount12:19
GigaClonok12:19
Mabus06Can anyone help me put an .avi file onto a cd or dvd I can watch on a dvd player? I don't care if it's a vcd using cds, or a dvd, or whatever. I just want this 673.9mb avi file viewable on a dvd player, willing to take whatever route possible to do so.12:19
acer_.....also USB drives willnot mount12:19
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soundrayvegos, (hd0,2)/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-whatever is an absolute pathname.12:20
flankkStEllis, either.  There's a sticky in the forums about reconfiguring Grub if you can't boot properly.12:20
vegosyes12:20
soundrayvegos, are you sure you've entered it correctly?12:20
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vegossoundray, i enter kernel (hd0,2) /boot/vmlinuz-2.6-12-10-38612:20
StEllisflankk do you know what forum or have a link?12:21
soundrayvegos, don't say you added a space between ) and / ! :)12:21
acer_Question:  I installed Breezy about a week ago and eventually got CD/DVD playback working but recently no disks will mount also USB drives will not mount.  Can anyone help?12:21
vegoshaha yeah12:21
vegosok12:21
vegosbrb12:21
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bllxwell I seem to have successfully changed my UID number; now I can access my OS X hfs+ home folder with full privs, and everything looks ok in Ubuntu12:22
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acer__jason were you implying that i needed to take a number?12:22
mkyb14this is way to compliecated just to install some ati drivers for a 980012:22
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Seveasacer_, no12:22
acer_lol12:22
mkyb14i'm getting lost between the wiki and what the xoom site is saying i need to install12:22
acer_o ok12:22
chrisx1hey i need help installin touch screen drivers anyideas?12:22
ubuntu_trying to grub-install and get the fallowing error: /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.12:23
bllxone odd thing though: in Admin->Users and Groups my user is no longer listed, unless I check the box 'Show all Users'12:23
ubuntu_google is'nt much use12:23
zlacki have some troubles installing ubuntu. i get on tty4 buffer i/o error on device sr0, logical block XXXX. anyone a workaroud? my cd drive is working good for other os'es12:23
Seveasacer_, can you mount them manually with pmount/are you in the plugdev group/did tou change fstab?12:23
bllxis that bad?12:23
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deusI got a mess here i have an api missmatch when i try to start up X, i need to choose a newer nvidia kernel module, that can be used with the X module 7667. How can i choose the correct module?12:23
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flankkStEllis, you'd have to search for it.  All you need to do is boot up to a terminal, 'man grub' and edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst to your liking.  I'd tell you exactly how but I don't know your configuration.12:24
sorush20what is good podcast software?12:24
nihoninmorning all12:24
owner989wow you guys wont believe this12:24
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owner989im playing files in windows media player12:24
owner989under wine12:24
nihoninlol12:24
StEllisflankk I dont know how to boot up to the terminal though thats the thing12:24
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BockBilbobye!12:24
Seveasowner989, ewwwwwww gross :p12:24
flankksorush20, a software that will play podcast streams robustly.12:24
owner989mp3s and asf files play12:25
owner989its sweet12:25
sorush20flankk: yes12:25
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owner989it even pulls updates from ms site12:25
owner989haha12:25
nihoninbrb12:25
soundrayowner989, and you're not ashamed to admit it, wow!12:25
mkyb14has anyone here installed ati drivers and know an easier way than the confusing wiki and the xoom site12:25
owner989lol soundray12:25
InterceptoRcan anyone help me12:25
owner989i can use IE6 and wmp in linux now12:25
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bllxso thanks Agrapaj, it worked12:25
Seveasowner989, can you send your wine config to dennis@ubuntu.com12:26
soundrayowner989, I play my asf files with cat >/dev/dsp. Sound is suboptimal, but hey!12:26
mweand what do you wan't that crap for? :)12:26
bllxAgrajag12:26
owner989seveas, sure12:26
SeveasI need to get IE6 working since I do lots of web development12:26
Seveasand that crappy thing always needs hacks12:26
owner989seveas i did so much tweaking with wine today12:26
acer_Seveas:  pmount doesn't work/ dont know about the group (how would i check?)/no i dont believe i changed the fstab12:26
nihoninback12:26
erUSULmkyb14, i use radeon (amn radeon) drivers with my 925012:26
Seveasacer_, the 'id' command12:26
saik0Seveas: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/12:26
acer_ok12:26
acer_uid=1005(admod) gid=106(admin) groups=20(dialout),21(fax),24(cdrom),25(floppy),26(tape),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),105(scanner),106(admin12:27
owner989seveas which files would you like me to send you12:27
Seveassaik0, thanks12:27
bllxbye all12:27
Seveasowner989, saik0 made it unneccessary, but thanks anyway :)12:27
acer_Seveas: i am in that group..plugdev12:27
soundraybye bllx12:27
flankkStEllis, Pop in your live CD and use the terminal there if you don't feel comfortable using the install CD.  Works the same way.  Understand that you are booting off the CD, and editing files on the drive, so you will need to mount the partition and 'chroot' to use the system binaries.12:27
zlackanyone some help for me?12:28
Seveasacer_, weird, can you put your syslog on the pastebin right after plugging in a usb device12:28
soundrayzlack, what with?12:28
zlacki have some troubles installing ubuntu. i get on tty4 buffer i/o error on device sr0, logical block XXXX. anyone a workaroud? my cd drive is working good for other os'es12:28
hkaisnext try, anyone here who uses a nforce4 mainboard under ubuntu?12:28
acer_give me a minute12:28
nihonini have installed ubuntu 5.10 an have a icon on my desktop to my windows partition but i cant access as a messagbe box appears stating i dont have the permissions to access the partition, i know how permissions work but as i dont have the root passwrd is there any other way around this problem12:28
zlacksoundray: with that :)12:28
owner989seveas, i installed wmp9 in wine but no video would play until i installed the unofficial fraunhofer codec12:28
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owner989now videos and mp3s play12:29
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soundrayzlack, a SATA drive by any chance?12:29
zlacki tried to turn my DMA on / off but didnt work12:29
vegossoundray, i got it booted but im in Busybox and dont know how to edit in this12:29
zlacksoundray:" yeah its a sata drive12:29
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soundrayvegos, try nano.12:29
saik0owner989, ok. seriously now. why? theres plenty of (better) ways to get multimedia support in linux12:29
zlackibm thinkpad t43p12:29
vegosi cant cd /boot12:30
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NinjaaHello, can some please help me with a tar.gz file i have on my desktop. I need to extract it to opt12:30
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zlacksoundray: its installing but it already took 1 hour for like 6% :(12:30
erUSULnihonin, how have you mounted the partition?12:30
phiqtionnalioth: busy?12:30
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soundrayvegos, what did your kernel line complete to?12:30
kbrooksNinjaa, tar -xzvf f.tar.gz -C /opt12:30
erUSULNinjaa, tar xvzf file.tar.gz -C /opt/12:30
saik0Ninjaa: tar xvzf foo.tar.gz12:30
vegossoundray, vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-38612:31
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soundrayzlack, that'll be 16 hours for the full install then...12:31
Ninjaalol three to choose from12:31
germancitohello12:31
nihoninit mounts at startup 5.10 found it an created the mount point while installing12:31
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zlacksoundray: any workaround?12:31
kbrookserUSUL, i win12:31
flankknihonin, my guess is that you actually do _not_ have permission to access your NTFS partition.  Users don't by default.12:31
germancitohave anyone here played crossfire????12:31
germancitoi'm trying to install it but don't know how12:31
nihonini have my mp3 on that drive an would like to access them12:32
erUSULkbrooks, XD12:32
soundrayvegos, good, that's one to remember. Next time you boot with grub cmd, add the parameter root=/dev/hda3 to the kernel line.12:32
soundrayzlack, do you know your SATA chipset?12:32
ale3hsguys, there is any backport for Rhythmbox 0.9.2 in Ubuntu??12:32
chrisx1hey i need help installin touch screen drivers anyideas?12:32
goldrakhi12:32
vegossoundray, so it should be vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-386 root=/dev/hda3?12:33
nihoninho goldrak12:33
goldrakI need a program for desing a flash film12:33
nihoninhi i mean12:33
mwenihonin: you probably need umask=0222 in /etc/fstab12:33
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Kevinhow do i install ubuntu?12:33
soundrayvegos, yes.12:33
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goldraki see uira but i can't donwload12:33
mwenihonin: under the mount option for the ntfs partition12:33
saik0nihonin, sudo gedit /etc/fstab and change defaults to  defaults,umask=02212:33
goldrakwe know another program12:33
zlacksoundray: its a sonoma chipset12:33
Kevini put in the iso disc i made with nero and now it sais A:/12:34
germancitoanyone here who can help me installing crossfire please12:34
mwesaik0: umask=0222 it should probably be12:34
saik0nihonin, 0222 typo12:34
owner989saik0. well its just an experiment really, i am actually surprised how well wm9 plays files under linux12:34
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phiqtionhow can edit the menu.lst file from the live cd?12:34
soundrayzlack, doesn't ring a bell. Perhaps you can search the web and see whether the corresponding driver module reads any kernel boot options.12:34
nihoninok thanx will give that a go12:34
Kevini put in the iso disc i made with nero and now it sais A:/12:35
acer_Seveas: I am getting logging failures see here>  http://paste.uni.cc/834412:35
nihoninaprreciate ur help12:35
flankkowner989, under wine?  Wine can execute almost all Windows binaries nowadays.12:35
Kevinhow am i helping you?12:35
zlacksoundray: i tried to google for the error, but didn't find any stuff except people experiencing dvd play errors (movies) and enabeling DMA with hdparm12:35
soundrayzlack, apart from Google, http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html may be a starting point.12:35
Ninjaaguys its saying no such file, but xampp is sitting there on my desktop : /12:35
nihoninbbl12:35
Kevinsomebody else...12:35
Kevini put in the iso disc i made with nero and now it sais A:/12:36
soundrayzlack, well maybe something like nodma will fix it for your installation.12:36
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owner989flankk, yes12:36
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jen_erUSUL: Thanks. I've got that working now.... but........ hehe... I went to the device manager, and my sound device is showing up, volume is up, speakers hooked up, etc..... Any ideas?12:36
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ale3hscopying files from ext3 to NTFS is so slooow ....!!! why??12:36
phiqtionhow can edit the menu.lst file from the live cd?12:36
zlacksoundray: can i still do that during the install?12:36
halibutCan anyone help me test my firefox extension (must use firefox 1.5 and gmail) (think skins for gmail)12:36
Kevini made the disc with a file called "ubuntu-5.10-install-i386"12:36
soundrayzlack, I'm afraid not.12:36
zlacksoundray: i tried to hdparm -d0 /dev/cdroms/cdrom012:36
saik0ale3hs, using captive NTFS? or that ext windows app?12:37
zlacksoundray: didn't work out12:37
saik0ale3hs, either way. both are slow12:37
redguyKevin: did you boot from that cd?12:37
soundrayzlack, from Alt-F2?12:37
Kevinme? saik0?12:37
zlacksoundray: can i do it before the install starts?12:37
jen_erUSUL: Nevermind, Solved it. *huggles* Thanks for all the help~!12:37
ale3hssaik0, dont tell me... ridiculous slow12:37
saik0Kevin, nope12:37
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obruxoagur12:38
soundrayzlack, yes, by default it boots ubuntu, I think, so you enter ubuntu nodma or something like that.12:38
phiqtionhow can edit the menu.lst file from the live cd?12:38
ale3hssaik0, but i just run the default cp.. should I add any parameters?12:38
Ninjaaguys im putting "tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.5.0.tar.gz -C /opt" into my terminal but its saying file not found, yet the file is there on the desktop!!12:38
soundrayzlack, it's documented in the various boot screens.12:38
erUSULjen_, no problem tha's why we are here to help others12:38
flankkand give "huggles"12:39
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erUSULNinjaa, tar xvfz Desktop/xampp-linux-1.5.0.tar.gz -C /opt12:39
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vegossoundray, i got back to ubuntu (thank god)12:39
soundrayvegos, well done.12:39
vegossoundray, i guess i need to research into the wireless thing12:39
ale3hssomebody that uses Rhythmbox 0.9.2 plz???12:39
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soundrayvegos, do you want to try another kernel?12:40
vegos?12:40
saik0ale3hs. Ifortunetly I'be never had to use captive NTFS, so I dont know12:40
vblantono0o there are a lot more people here than in #kubuntu12:40
ale3hssaik0, thanx anyway12:40
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NinjaaerUSL,thats perfect buddy, thanks12:40
soundrayvegos, could you post the output from "dpkg -l linux-image*' to http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl please.12:40
mwevblanton: yeah, but most of them don't like kde :)12:40
vegossure12:41
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sorush20does konqueror have flash available for it?12:41
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Glossaryi never installed a firewall but it always sais that there is one12:41
Glossaryhow to remove it?12:41
Glossary:p12:41
zlacksoundray: trying now, will let you know12:41
vegossoundray, is that a pipe or L12:41
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soundrayvegos, L12:42
ale3hsGlossary, I got the same problem with gtk-gnutella12:42
edwinwhois edwin12:42
Glossaryale3hs, did you fix it?12:42
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soundrayedwin, /whois12:42
vegosi have to restart first and then i will post12:42
ale3hsit says i am firewalled .. I removed the firewall from my router.. still same problem12:42
phiqtionhow can edit the menu.lst file from the live cd?12:42
edwinthanks12:42
Glossary:/12:43
Glossarythis sucks12:43
ale3hsGlossary, but check ur router firewall12:43
Glossaryale3hs, how12:43
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mwephiqtion: mount the partition and edit the file12:43
soundrayvegos, why restart?12:43
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vblantonsorush20: you can download flash for konqi at the macromedia webpage ;)12:43
phiqtionmwe: how how how12:43
ale3hsGlossary, from the router web-page ..u have an cable/dsl connection and a router, rt?12:44
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Glossaryyea12:44
halibutcan anyone please help me test my firefox extension?  ( http://rivex.no-ip.org/extension.jpg ), must use gmail and FF1.512:44
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fr500hello12:44
Kevinglossery12:44
flankkphiqtion, mount, chroot, vim.  Prefix with man if you must.12:44
ale3hsGlossary, ok just login to ur router IP address with firefox12:44
Glossaryk done12:44
fr500a question, can i force synaptic to fetch an especific version of a program, gnome bluetooth for instance, 0.51 worked better for me12:44
mwephiqtion: sudo mkdir /mnt/foo && sudo mount /dev/bar /mnt/foo, /dev/bar being the device of your disk12:44
ale3hsGlossary, and u will find a firewall option12:44
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soundrayfr500, yes, there is some option for that in the Package menu, I think.12:45
mwephiqtion: then browse to the menu.lst file under /mnt/foo12:45
mwephiqtion: and edit it with sudo12:45
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acer_Seveas: here is the system log when i inserted the USB drive..... http://paste.uni.cc/834512:46
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flankkphiqtion, it's better to "chroot" then after you're done editing the file, make sure the changes are commited by issuing the "grub" command.  That's it.12:46
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sorush20vblanton: I have a list of plugins in the Konqueror browser plugins configuration menu but they just can't become active for some reason?12:47
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ale3hshow i register my nick in freenode irc ?? coz I cant join some channels with unregistered nick12:47
DarthFrogHi folks.12:47
DarthFrogCan anyone help me with fglrx configuration?12:48
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DarthFrogDmesg reports;[4294771.877000]  [fglrx]  Internal AGP support requested, but kernel AGP support active.12:48
DarthFrog[4294771.877000]  [fglrx]  Have to use kernel AGP support to avoid conflicts.12:48
DarthFrog[4294771.877000]  [fglrx]  Kernel AGP support doesn't provide agplock functionality.12:48
DarthFrog[4294771.877000]  [fglrx]  AGP detected, AgpState   = 0x1f004e0b (hardware caps of chipset)12:48
DarthFrog[4294771.878000]  [fglrx:firegl_unlock]  *ERROR* Process 7373 using kernel context 012:48
Quest-Masterale3hs: /ns REGISTER help12:48
vegossoundray, i posted12:48
ale3hsQuest-Master,  k12:48
Quest-MasterErr12:49
Quest-Masterale3hs: /ns HELP register12:49
hkaisi cannot believe it, isn't here anybody who uses a nforce4 chipset?12:49
soundrayvegos, okay, loading now...12:49
ale3hsyea Quest-Master coz now my passwd is help :)12:49
hkaiswhich chipsets are used here in the chan?12:49
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halibutThink ubuntu skin for gmail,  can anyone please help me test my firefox extension?  ( http://rivex.no-ip.org/extension.jpg ), must use gmail and FF1.512:50
hkaisI search for any success or failiure reports with the boards...12:50
SWAThow can I burn a 4GB image on a 4.5GB DVD? k3b won't do it because the image is too big. I guess it has something to do with iso/udf. Anyone help?12:50
DarthFroghkais: My motherboard uses an SiS chipset.12:50
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ubuntukingtry nerolinux12:50
DarthFrogSWAT: you could just use cdrecord manually.12:51
acer_can anyone help me?12:51
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phiqtionmwe: help me. i dont understand hda0,0. gparted states ubuntu is located in hda6. so is it hd6,0 or hd0,6?12:51
transgressDarthFrog: why not just use the kernel agp?12:51
ross_can anyone walk me through installing a printer driver? I'm brand new to Ubuntu12:51
hkaisanybode else here who knows his chipset? maybe someone with a nforce 4?12:51
DarthFrogtransgress: the kernel agpgart is loaded.  But I can't get 3D working. :-(12:52
vblantonSWAT: you could look into the k3b options for anything regarding it, check the help manual ,or ask on the k3b forums ;) If you really want k3b to do it for you.12:52
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flankk!tell transgress about printer12:52
snorksphiqtion: i think that would be hd0,612:52
fr500soundray, so repos have previous versions stored?12:52
vblantonDarthFrog: do you have the drivers installed?12:52
transgressflankk: not me.  tell the person who asked12:52
snorksphiqtion: iirc grub using 0 instead of a, so hda = hd012:52
vblantonDarthFrog: for your video card12:52
SWATDarthFrog, do you know by any chance if cdrecord manually works for sure?12:52
transgressflankk: that'd be ross_12:52
zlacksoundray: how can i check the dma status of my sata drive? with hdparm as well?12:52
phiqtionsnorks: thanks12:52
SWATubuntuking, nerolinux is non-free12:52
soundrayfr500, yes, as long as the corresponding releases are supported.12:53
DarthFrogvblanton: Yes, both sis_agp and fglrx, as well as agpgart.12:53
DarthFrogSWAT: It works. :-)12:53
ross_Can you walk me through installing a printer driver12:53
vegossoundray, what have you decided?12:53
SWATvblanton, thanks, but it hasn't to do anything with the options12:53
erUSULacer_, try pmount /dev/sdf112:53
soundrayzlack, yes12:53
ubuntukingi know12:53
SWATDarthFrog, ow, that's all I needed to know. :)12:53
DarthFrogvblanton: But I only get get indirect rendering. :-(12:53
vblantonSWAT: ok, well cdrecord works, you just need to figure out how to use it ;)12:53
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ubuntukingSWAT, but it works pretty good and u can get a key online12:53
soundrayvegos, I was looking for a k8 specific kernel. You don't seem to have one available.12:53
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vegossoundray, your speaking foreign to me12:54
soundrayvegos, my hope was that that would fix all your timekeeping and wifi trouble.12:54
SWATDarthFrog, I thank you. Now I'm almost hooked on console again :)12:54
acer_erUSUL, it mounted something but i have no access to that mounted drive12:54
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chrisx1 Am i able to watch vcd's on ubuntu?12:54
vblantonDarthFrog: and your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is loading the right driver?12:54
DarthFrogThe hardest part about using cdrecord is figuring out the correct syntax for addressing the drive.12:54
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DarthFrogvblanton: Yes.12:54
SWATubuntuking, thanks for the information though. I'm trying to keep to the GPL/free stuff :)12:54
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soundrayIsn't there a kernel for AMD64 CPUs even in the i386 install?12:55
vblantonDarthFrog: stumped. never dealt with SIS before12:55
SWATvblanton, thanks you too :)12:55
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vblantonsoundray: well.. there should be12:55
edwinwhat directory is the kernel located in?12:55
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dekelaHi everybody!12:55
edwinhi12:55
ubuntukingSWAT, that is the only program that is non free12:55
vblantonSWAT: np12:55
DarthFrogvblanton: fglrx is loaded, sis_agp is loaded, agpgart is loaded, the fglrx xorg driver is being used.12:55
soundrayvblanton, which repository please?12:55
ubuntukingSWAT, i burn a lot of dvd s and i get a lot of coaster with k3b12:55
mweI have to look up the options for cdrecord everytime I use it. that's why I use a frontend now12:55
vegossoundray, will this bug be fixed in future kernels12:55
dekelaanyone knows how can I fix my grub install?  I have windows on /dev/sda1 and ubuntu on /dev/sda212:55
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DarthFrogk3b is a frontend to cdrecord, I believe.12:55
vblantonsoundray: bummed if I know.. lemme check12:56
chrisx1 Am i able to watch vcd's on ubuntu?12:56
ross_I'm brand new to ubuntu. Can someone walk me through installing a printer drive12:56
erUSULacer_, check under media12:56
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halibutcan anyone please help me test my firefox extension?  ( http://rivex.no-ip.org/extension.jpg ), must use gmail and FF1.512:56
DarthFrogdekela: what's wrong with grub?12:56
acer_erUSUL, where would i be checking?12:56
soundrayvegos, give me a min please12:57
vblantonsoundray: Oh! RIght! If you use a k8 kernel it'll assume your running in 64bit and everything will screw up..12:57
acer_erUSUL, You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "sdf1".12:57
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dekelaFirst, When I boot Ubuntu it has the wrong root settings, So I need to get into prompts and set it to (hd2,1)12:57
erUSULacer_, under what dir did pmount mount the usb thingy12:57
vblantonsoundray: so, when you run a 32 bit operating system on a 32/64bit cpu you'll have to stick to 32bit kernels. :)12:57
dekelaDaedric, Then when I try to boot windows12:58
vblantonsoundray: as I do12:58
soundrayThanks vblanton. Sorry, vegos, what I had in mind isn't a solution.12:58
dekelaDaedric, I get error 13 partition not known12:58
DarthFrogdekela: edit the file /boot/grub/menu.lst12:58
erUSULacer_, ?? have you done sudo pmount??12:58
dekelaDarthFrog, The first issue I know how to solve12:58
acer_erUSUL, yes i used sudo, and it is in the media dir12:58
dekelaDaedric, My problem is with the windows12:58
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soundrayvegos, you could reinstall using the amd64 architecture, but IF it even solves your timer problems, you get others instead.12:58
phiqtionDarthFrog: i need to tell grub that the new splash screen is located in hda6. so its hd0,6 ?12:59
DarthFrogdekela: No.  hdo,512:59
DarthFrogdekela: grub is zero based.12:59
DarthFrogerr, hd0,512:59
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erUSULacer_, pumount it and pmount it as a normal user12:59
soundrayvegos, for example, I'm running amd64 and I can't load any flash content in firefox anymore. Not that it hurts much, but there are a few annoyances of this type.12:59
dekelaDaedric, Sorry? So (hd0,5) means?12:59
acer_erUSUL, everything was automounting yesterday or the day before and now this?!12:59
taxmanhi all new to Ubuntu, been using free software for many years. Is there a goo guide to slimming down a new install memory wise? Googling didn't find much01:00
vblantongoodbye all01:00
taxman*good01:00
soundraythanx again vblanton01:00
DarthFrog'Bye vblanton, and thanks for trying to help.01:00
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acer_erUSUL, error message says::  Error: device /dev/sdf1 is already mounted to /media/sdf101:00
wickedpuppytaxman, try top ...01:00
soundraytaxman, is that for RAM or hard disk mainly?01:00
vblantondekela: hd0,5 is the 6th partition on your first hard drive.01:01
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taxmanprob is I have 128MB, even installed to hd it's pretty slow01:01
taxmanlivecd was unusable01:01
chrisx1yay i got vcd/dvd workin01:01
wickedpuppytaxman, i got 512 and i don't feel good01:01
taxmanof course the pretty gnome desktop is great, but man is sucks resources01:02
acer_erUSUL, it is "mounted" but it root access only01:02
erUSULacer_, pumount /media/sdf1 note the *u*01:02
acer_erUSUL, ok tying that now01:02
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erUSULacer_, use sudo01:02
soundraytaxman, one well supported slim choice is xubuntu.01:02
taxmanI'm particularly impressed that the install was flawless and everything on this laptop works perfectly01:02
jirwinhello01:02
DarthFrogtaxman: You might try Xfce instead of Gnome/KDE. There is a Ubuntu project for running Xfce on Ubuntu.01:02
dekelaDaedric, But I have only 2 Parttions on my sda01:02
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DarthFrogdekela: So where did /dev/hda6 come from?01:03
taxmanyeah, sounds decent, but it's a separate project right?01:03
soundraytaxman, xubuntu is that project  that DarthFrog is talking about.01:03
jirwinto get breezy to install on my laptop, I had to send "acpi=off vga=771 noapic nolapic" through the installer01:03
DarthFrogsoundray: Thanks.01:03
jirwininstalled, and everything works great but the batter01:03
jirwinbattery*01:03
dekelaDaedric, I didnt say anything about /dev/hda601:03
jirwinany ideas on how to get this to work?01:04
acer_erUSUL, i am using su root, and it just unmounted sdf101:04
dekelaDaedric, I have 2 SATA drives the first has 2 partitions01:04
acer_is there a difference btw sudo and su root??01:04
zlacksoundray: i tried several options => linux ide=nodma, linux dma=off01:04
dekelaDaedric, sda1 (NTFS windows)01:04
zlackany other suggestions?01:04
caryi have a quick question for anyone: i am soon likely to own a PC (as opposd to my macs) that will basically be for tinkering. ill want to boot unbuntu, win2000/xp?, and possibly mac osX86. how hard is it to make a machine dual/triple boot between these things? anyone know or have a link to a place that is fairly detailed?01:04
erUSULacer_, now pmount it as a normal user no root01:04
dekelaDaedric, sda2 Ubuntu01:04
soundrayzlack, linux nodma ?01:04
caryubuntu would be the primary OS in theory01:04
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acer_erUSUL, or it mounted with access to me01:05
taxmancary, triple booting is pretty straightforward01:05
DarthFrogcary: it's easy with Ubuntu. Install Windows first, then Ubuntu.01:05
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Hobbseecary: tripple booting is easy - i do it on this laptop, just install ubuntu last01:05
taxmanbut mac osX86 you'll have to know how to do01:05
DarthFrogcary: The Ubuntu installer will detect Windows and configure grub to dual-boot. No idea about OSX.01:05
soundrayzlack, did you read the boot help?01:05
Hobbseeah yes, OSX might be an issue01:05
acer_erUSUL, should have read "OK it mounted with access to me"01:05
taxmancary, you did know macos is supposed to be protected for mac machines only right?01:06
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carydarthfrog, taxman, hobbsee, what all doyou boot?01:06
DarthFrogtaxman: Do you happen to know if Windows and Linux will run on mac x86 machines?01:07
Hobbseecary: xp, kubuntu breezy, kubuntu dapper01:07
taxmancary, ubuntu only on this machine, winders on work machine01:07
DarthFrogcary:  kbuntu breezy, WinXP.01:07
zlacksoundray: yes, but it didn't say anything about dma01:07
zlacksoundray: you mean @ the cd or online?01:07
soundrayzlack, CD01:07
erUSULacer_, well done01:08
zlacksoundray: yes i read that, didn't find anything01:08
soundrayzlack, online is always an option of course.01:08
carytaxman, yes, but i thought about tinkering with it. its more a thing ot fill time as a hobby. im not really a developer but i like a challenge01:08
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soundrayzlack, sorry, wrong pointer.01:08
zlacksoundray: google sucks for me at the moment01:08
acer_erUSUL, ok that worked for me but this computer is destine for a family that would not be able to do that everytime01:08
soundrayzlack, hold on...01:08
zlackok01:08
acer_erUSUL, is there anyway to get automount working again?01:09
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chrisx1hey ubuntu stuck my CD rom drive any idea how to open?01:09
caryhobbsee, taxman, darthfrog : what are the main diffrences to the common observer between KDE and Gnome (im really asking about ubuntu and kubuntu, but the difference is the same right? kubuntu is just ubuntu with kde)01:09
acer_paperclip?01:09
Hobbseechrisx1: "eject" into a terminal01:09
erUSULacer_, a reboot does not help??01:09
chrisx1ok01:09
chrisx1ty01:09
Milk_Anyone know why my clock keeps loosing time despite being setup to ping time servers?01:09
DarthFrogChrisx_:  Alt-F2 and type "eject"01:09
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chrisx1done it ty01:09
acer_erUSUL, i can try brb...01:09
erUSULacer_, sometimes the kernel makes thing weird01:09
Hobbseecary: kubuntu is ubuntu with kde, without gnome01:09
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acer_erUSUL, normal restart?01:10
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caryhobbsee, i know, but i dont get the difference between KDE and Gnome01:10
DarthFrogcary: yes, Kubuntu is KDE on Ubuntu. With gnome-support, though. :-)01:10
taxmancary, to a longtime kde user and new gnome user, nothing too serious, just menu placement, and names of config utilities01:10
devintwhen is firefox 1.5 going to be backported?01:10
erUSULacer_, yes01:10
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carytaxman, ahha. thanks01:10
acer_erUSUL, ok see you on the flipside01:10
DarthFrogcary: Gnome is C based, KDE is C++01:10
Coweaterdevint: when someone does it01:10
esseshi all01:10
Hobbseecary: if you dont konw which one you wont, just install both one the one operating system - ie, install ubuntu, then "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" then you can switch as you feel like01:10
carydarthfrog, ah. thanks01:10
taxmancary, they are different mind you, but nothing major to a new user01:10
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DarthFrogcary:  KDE is more easily used by someone from Windows.  GNOME is more limited in configuration.01:11
olive(gnome powaaa)01:11
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r3texwhat kind of partitioning can the install-cd do?01:11
animali want to run dualscreen or at least get my other screen to work with my laptop. can anybody help me? is there any way to get dualscreen working in ubuntu?01:11
Kelsey23Gnome is eaiser to use01:11
taxmanif both libraries are installed, each can run both kde and gnome programs01:11
essesDid anyone try to mount an amiga cd with ubuntu? I've no permission to see folders contents!!!01:11
Hobbseer3tex: well, what are you looking to do?01:11
Kelsey23I strongly recommend it to anyone who hans't used GNU/Linux before01:11
DarthFrogcary: Try both and see which one you like.01:11
soundrayzlack, have a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-85950.html, scroll down to jvictor. It pertains to the live cd, but I'm pretty sure it translates to the install cd.01:12
r3texHobbsee:  do i have to allocate free-space prior to installing, or can the install-cd resize partitions?01:12
carytaxman, i would call me a new user for sure. i reconfigured my powerbook a while back (with a lot of help from this forum) and dual booted ubuntu and os x, but PPC architecture is fairly limiting. i never go tmy sound right01:12
Kelsey23cary: don't try to install KDE on Ubuntu though ;-P01:12
carydarthfrog, will do01:12
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DarthFrogcary: install Ubuntu, which will give you GNOME by default. Then use Synaptic to install the kde-desktop package.01:12
Hobbseer3tex: it can resize :)01:12
r3texHobbsee:  what filesystems can it resize?01:12
essesuheee uheee no answers?01:12
HobbseeKelsey23: whyever not?01:12
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DarthFrogcary: Then you'll have both GNOME and KDE installed.  At the login screen, you can choose which one to run.01:12
acer_erUSUL, trying it now01:12
Kelsey23Hobbsee: it does not work well01:13
zlacksoundray: i already found that, didn't work out for me unfortunally01:13
Kelsey23Hobbsee: for me, KDE hijacked GTK01:13
Hobbseer3tex: um...most of them, you might want to google it01:13
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HobbseeKelsey23: i've run both many times before without a problem.  not sure how kde could hijack gtk - and i suspect you mean qt anyway01:13
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Hobbsee!start a desktop war01:13
ubotublackbox is much better than kde!01:13
Kelsey23Hobbsee: yes....QT was rendering GTK things01:13
acer_erUSUL, no luck01:13
Kelsey23Hobbsee: I dont know, it was wierd01:14
carydarthfrog, oh nice. sounds good. i used to boot win2k and i ran LiteStep as a shell replacement and i loved tweaking the .rc files to completely manipulate my UI. linux is a bit more intimidating though. especially since use of a command line donest yet make sense to me. i mean i know how to some degree but i dont see the point. i guess maybe when i find a reason to ssh ill get it?01:14
HobbseeKelsey23: in what programs?  that sounds odd01:14
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Kelsey23Hobbsee: any GTK application01:14
soundrayzlack, sorry, out of ideas. Unless you could temporarily put in an old PATA CD-ROM drive.01:14
DarthFrogcary: before installing the kde-desktop package, edit the file "/etc/apt/source.list" and put this line in "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main". Then you'll get the latest & greated KDE.01:14
zlacksoundray: i'm affraid not :P01:14
zlacksoundray: thanks though01:14
HobbseeDarthFrog: you mean the /etc/apt/sources.list :P01:14
erUSULacer_, :( i can not help you further i'm afraid01:15
DarthFrogcary: You don't absolutely need to use the command line. But that's where the power is. :-)01:15
DarthFrogHobbsee:  Thank you. :-)01:15
HobbseeDarthFrog: no problems01:15
essesAt least an amiga channel bitte :-)01:15
soundrayzlack, one more suggestion before I leave: http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/dists/warty/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/ch04s03.html01:15
zlacksoundray: isn't there a netinstall iso or something? so i can wait a bit and do the rest from the inet?01:15
taxmandid I say I'm extremely impressed with Ubuntu so far? Well I am01:15
acer_erUSUL,  anyone who can?  anyother reccomendations?01:15
HobbseeKelsey23: there's a howto on ubuntu forums about how to make the qt apps look GTK'ish - you might want to check it out01:15
soundrayzlack, yep, just my line of thought.01:15
zlack:)01:16
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DarthFrogcary:  And if you really want to understand Linux (rather than the GUI), you'll do it from the command line.01:16
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zlacksoundray, thanks allot for your effort01:16
Kelsey23Hobbsee: It's not that I want to make a QT app look GTKish01:16
JuhazKelsey23, Hobbsee http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=971401:16
carydarthfrog, right. thats why i want to use it. but im not sure like..where i can. im a photogrpaher and i play with comptuers (have for 12 years) and im not sure if there IS a real application for me and linux. but damnit i want to learn it01:16
erUSULacer_, no :(01:16
Kelsey23Hobbsee: But when I went back to XFCE, QT was rendering all of the widgets01:16
Hobbseehmmm...weird01:16
Kelsey23very01:16
acer_erUSUL, reinstall Ubuntu from scratch?01:16
HobbseeJuhaz: that's installed by default in breezy, as part of kubuntu-desktop01:16
soundrayzlack, I know what it's like when Google sucks. It sucks, doesn't it? :-)01:16
zlack:-)01:17
DarthFrogcary: For what purposes do you use a computer?01:17
carydarthfrog, ive got basic commands like switching dir's and copying etc down (sort of. i knwo its not hard, i just dont have a functional linux machine right now), but i dont really KNOW what id need to utilize it haha01:17
soundrayBye zlack & everyone.01:17
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zlacksoundray, it sucks when i don't get the information i want. its not google's fault ;)01:17
Seveascary, as photographer you'll love F-spot01:17
zlacklaters!01:17
carydarthfrog, mostly i edit photos in photoshop. and i keep files organized01:17
caryseveas, hey! been a long time, what is F-spot?01:17
DarthFrogcary:  You'll use the GIMP then. :-)01:17
Seveascary, F-spot is the best photo organizer in town01:18
Seveasand gimp is a decent photo editor01:18
DarthFrogcary: Which is available in Windows.01:18
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acer_DIFFERENT QUESTION:  Is there anyway to set themes universally for all users or must it be done on an individual basis?01:18
Seveasacer_, individual01:18
acer_ugh01:18
JuhazHobbsee, yes, and it's obviously what causes the behavior Kelsey23 is seeing. KDE probably writes gtkrc and sets that theme in there, or something01:18
vegossoundray, thanks for all the help01:18
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carydarthfrog, yeah i am half-familiar with GIMP (in as much as i know its called the free linxu equiv to photoshop), but ill be keeping my dual G5 for my editing. so functionally ill thikn o fhte PC as a toy i guess01:19
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acer_looks like ill be reinstalling ubuntu01:19
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DarthFrogSeveas:  Surely that's wrong.   Re-setting the default theme would do it universally, no?01:19
ilba7r!info jedit01:19
n0dldoes anyone know how to view email using an MTA MUA and something like fetchmail?01:19
quadra[ !unload : no module with this name ] 01:19
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SeveasDarthFrog, as long as everyone uses the default...01:19
n0dlor does anyone know where i can find a good tut on it?01:19
Seveasquadra, ?01:19
carydarthfrog, partly just so i have windows to be compatible outside of virutal pc, but i really want to know linux and what have you01:19
DarthFrogSeveas: Right.  But that wasn't what was asked. :-)01:19
acer_DarthFrog, how can i reset the default?01:19
Kelsey23Juhaz; Hobbsee: yes.....if I picked a GTK theme to use in KDE, XFCE would do that too, but not allow me to switch01:20
caryseveas, sounds nice.01:20
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caryseveas, do you use it?01:20
taxmanis there an ipod control app for linux?01:20
DarthFrogacer_: Don't know, sorry, I've never changed it.  It'll be in /etc somewhere, though.01:20
Seveascary, I use both gimp and F-spot sometimes01:20
acer_DarthFrog, time to start playing, =)01:20
Seveas!help01:20
caryseveas, i am googling fspot now, but what is it about it that you like?01:20
acer_!help?01:20
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, acer_01:20
DarthFrogacer_:  Have fun!  Good attitude. :-)01:20
Seveascary, install it and you'll see :)01:21
Seveas(Really, the best way to see why it's great is using it)01:21
taxmancary, have you run the livecd yet? its the easy way to try it01:21
acer_for an average family coming from XP, would you use Kubuntu, Xbuntu, or Ubuntu?01:21
caryseveas, haha. awesome. now to get a hold of this PC box and getting a system goign01:21
DarthFrogcary: Ubuntu will make it easy for you to use Linux.  But you'll only understand Linux by working at the command line.01:21
DarthFrogacer_: Kubuntu.01:21
acer_why?01:22
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acer_just looking for some opinions01:22
carytaxman, i have actually fully installed ubuntu (hoary) before on my powerbook, just am out of practice and i removed linxu from the pb a while back01:22
DarthFrogacer_: Because KDE is more accesible for XP users.01:22
n0dlacer_:its hard to install Xubuntu in the beginnig01:22
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DarthFrogaccessible. :-)01:22
n0dlacer: mostly becuase you have to know how to install xubuntu from the base (meaning you need some CLI experience)01:22
DarthFrogaccessable??01:22
odlan0dl: xubuntu is easy to install...just type server at the boot options and then apt-get install xubuntu-desktop gdm01:22
acer_n0dl, that is not the issue, the end result use is my consern01:22
DarthFrogNo, that's wrong. :-)01:23
carydarthfrog, yeah. i enjoy the idea of a GUI thats secure (one of many reasons i use a mac) but id love to "get" linux, and actually use it for what its worth01:23
odlan0dl: and you're in business01:23
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Kelsey23# apt-get install xubutnu-desktop01:23
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DarthFrogcary: then runlevel 1 is your friend. :-)01:23
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n0dlodla: to get xubuntu-desktop you must first activate univ and multi01:23
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acer_anyone else?01:23
odlan0dl: fine...it's still easy ;)01:23
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RemdulHey guys, I need some help installing Ubuntu. :(01:23
carydarthfrog, that was basically greek01:23
acer_Kubutu, Xbuntu, or ubuntu/01:23
acer_?01:23
sorush20guys  my aRts is slow in the swf playback ? any ideas01:23
DarthFrogcary: It will be for a while.01:24
Kelsey23Xubutnu01:24
acer_why?01:24
acer_must support your answer01:24
Kelsey23XFCE has a nice UI01:24
acer_for an average family coming from XP01:24
Kelsey23and it is light on system resources01:24
essesBye01:24
n0dlexactly01:24
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Kelsey23what are your system specs?01:24
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rendihi what command to cpy directory01:24
carydarthfrog, good to know. once i get the basics down so that the WIKI makes sense to some degree maybe i can start learning01:24
n0dlxubuntu is visually pleasing like KDE but without the RAM suck01:24
Kelsey23acer_: what are your PC's specs?01:25
Toma-kde is more family friendly with the kde-education and toys packages01:25
DarthFrogcary: runlevels are the system configurations that Linux can load on booting. In Debian-based distributions (which Ubuntu is), runlevel 1 is the maintenance configuration (i.e. no GUI) and runlevel 2 is the normal operating configuration (i.e. the full GUI environment).01:25
acer_Kelsey23: not my system let me look01:25
n0dlGNOME is fairly buggy for some reason (or at least from my experience)01:25
carydarthfrog, taxman, seveas, other people: thanks for the help. time to get to work again!01:25
n0dlbut i also agree with Toma-01:25
RemdulI'm trying to install Ubuntu, when i put in the CD and boot, it comes to the Hit enter to continue installing screen. When I hit enter it reboots my computer. Memtest has ran 111 tests and no errors.... The CD is official Ubuntu v5.04.01:25
DarthFrogcary: Have fun. :-)01:25
Kelsey23acer_: ok01:25
carydarthfrog, ah. i understand. sort of like booting to openfirmware in os x01:25
n0dlKDE is rather family friendly and is suggested by many including the linux mag for new linux users:TUX01:26
Toma-also, kde-games are alot better than gnome-games01:26
Kelsey23TUX sucks!01:26
DarthFrogTUX rocks!01:26
caryhahaha01:26
Kelsey23it is all fanboyism!!!01:26
acer_Kelsey23: specs here>  http://shopping.yahoo.com/p:HP%20Media%20Center%20PC%20m300y%20Desktop%20Computer:1991345571:page=details;_ylt=AljLBbnL.TqRnpGO4.2sQlqgn7sF;_ylu=X3oDMTA5ZW01N2htBHNlYwNiZ3NpYg--01:26
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bimberirendi: cp -r /path/to/dir /path/to/copy (-r means it will do all subdirs)01:26
SeveasKelsey23: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct01:26
DarthFrogKelsey23: But it is very helpful.01:26
carySuperTux rocks. that is to say, mario bros rocks01:26
n0dlwhatever im just saying kubuntu is user/family friendly none the less01:26
RemdulAnyone have any suggestions?01:26
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n0dlacer_: i would say kubuntu because altough i dont exactly like it... It is fairly easy to install if you only have an ubuntu disk01:27
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n0dlacer_: i mean cd01:27
DarthFrogcary: actually, why don't you take out a free subscription to TUX magazine?01:27
BroamAnyone want to help a poor newb fsck his / superblock?01:27
DarthFrogcary: It's distributed as a PDF file via email.01:27
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DarthFrogcary: You'll find it very useful.01:27
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BroamHeh.  I've installed Breezy on this P2 laptop that was a handmedown.  When I update with apt-get or synaptic...eventually it just hangs.  Hard01:28
DarthFrogTUX subscription:  https://www.ssc.com/tx/subs/DigitalSub.php01:28
RemdulI am running out of ideas... and I am getting stressed out, because I need this computer running.01:28
chrismurfanybody here using iFolder with bonjour support?  I know avahi doesn't work, trying to figure out what the approved p2p method is for iFolder.01:28
stinkydavehello, has anyone had any luck getting asterisk 1.2 running on Ubuntu??01:28
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USCRyanHow do i get my users list on the left hand side of the screen to show back up?01:28
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linux_newbhey whats the command to install ssh01:29
nihoninhave worked out my problem with mounting windows partition thanx for your help01:29
BroamI suspected the disk, but two nights of spinrite level 5 saying it's clean make me think something else.  Anyway, I did a 120 reset on it and of course I blow the superblock.  It's the / partition so I can't fsck it from itself.  I'm thinking the best way to do it is to fsck from the install disk, but I'd like some pointers.01:29
BroamThanks01:29
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RemdulI'm trying to install Ubuntu, when i put in the CD and boot, it comes to the Hit enter to continue installing screen. When I hit enter it reboots my computer. Memtest has ran 111 tests and no errors.... The CD is official Ubuntu v5.04.01:29
Toma-linux_newb: apt-get install sshd01:29
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Toma-actually, its just ssh01:30
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Kelstest01:30
linux_newbthanks01:30
BroamRemdul:  What brand of computer is it?01:30
acer_lol kels01:30
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RemdulCompaq01:30
Kelsheh, Hitlerish ban01:30
Sannelinux_newb: ssh install is also nicely covered in the starter guide you have on your panel under the help icon. It's under networking/ssh server.01:30
acer_how good is freevo and myth TV?01:31
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ShadyHey, I'm rather new to linux and I really like it. I would like to change over completely but because of my ipod is there an ipod program or something that can run ituns?01:31
BroamShady:  Try gtkpod01:31
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acer_is there any FrontRow, CenterStage, iTheater apps for linux?01:31
Shadowpillar...01:31
Shadowpillarnow then01:31
Toma-Kels: id say ban evasion is also frowned upon ;)01:31
SeveasKels, I am not a bot...01:31
Kelsoh01:31
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Seveasand the H word is off limits01:32
tonyyarussoWhat's the easiest/safest way to upgrade a kernel?01:32
Toma-acer_: and what do all thopse apps do?01:32
ShadyBroam, thanks!01:32
RemdulIts a cheap $500 computer from Walmart.01:32
acer_hold on01:32
acer_Media Centers01:32
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caryone more thing: is it hard to make it so a (rather large) firewire drive is the boot drive from this (powerbook) computer? and further, is it even rational to thikn of having a PPC and an x86 boot partitions on the same firewire drive?01:32
Broamnp, Shady.01:32
Toma-acer_: totem does it all01:32
felipe_How do I make menus semi-trasparent?01:32
USCRyan*question* im trying to install nvidia drivers.....it says im running an x-server and need to run on a different level.  can anyone help me understand/do this?01:32
BroamRemdul:  Hmm.  Check to see if your BIOS has virus protection turned on.  It's probably a red herring, but it's worth a shot.01:32
acer_http://www.apple.com/imac/frontrow.html01:32
RemdulI will check.01:33
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Shadowpillarno permissions are changed in my system, all I know is I ran checkinstall, I had to stop it halfway through, and suddenly, BAM. I lost all access to my system, root is the only user that works, I'm using the ubuntu lice cd01:33
Broam!info breezy fsck01:33
quadra[ !unload : no module with this name ] 01:33
Shadowpillarlive*01:33
Shadowpillarso, can anyone help me?01:33
robotgeekSeveas: the bcm drivers need 2.6.15 kernel. i'm going to hold on till it works for more people :)01:33
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BroamShadow:  Why did you stop it halfway through?  (Mostly curious)01:33
tonyyarusso!kernel upgrade01:33
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, tonyyarusso01:34
tonyyarusso!kernel01:34
ShadowpillarBroam, put in some bad data when it asked for docs, when I was pressing enter I hit the ' key01:34
Seveasrobotgeek, good call :)01:34
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RemdulBroam, I dont have the ability to turn that on/off in the bios, I dont see.01:34
ShadowpillarBroam, then suddenly, I lost all permissions01:34
acer_any official bittorent dls of Breezy?01:34
linux_newbwhats the command to install nvidia drivers01:34
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Shadowpillarany way to re-configure some base packages to fix this?01:34
BroamHmm.  I wonder if it reset the permissions before you stopped it.  I know I blew up locale settings once01:34
Shadowpillarnothing has been altered01:34
Seveas!tell linux_newb about nvidia01:34
acer_is it any faster than the Ubuntu site?01:34
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linux_newbty01:34
Toma-acer_: also, theres mythtv... but its pretty complicated to install01:34
robotgeekSeveas: i'm guessing a year till it becomes stable and commonplace. maybe a post to slashdot will help, eh01:34
USCRyan*question* im trying to install nvidia drivers.....it says im running an x-server and need to run on a different level.  can anyone help me understand/do this?01:35
Seveashehe01:35
acer_Toma- i was looking at that but...looks amateur01:35
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Toma-its not amateur. it can do all sorts of crazy things01:35
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acer_the screen shots look amateur i should say01:35
BroamShadowpillar:  I'm unsure how the default user permissions are set up in ubuntu.  I don't even know if there's a wheel group01:35
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Toma-what do you mean by that?01:36
SeveasBroam, there is one :)01:36
BroamPhew. :)01:36
taxmanDarthFrog taxman: Do you happen to know if Windows and Linux will run on mac x86 machines?01:36
BroamSeveas:  Is fsck on the install disk?  I see a 'rescue mode' here in the expert install01:36
SeveasBroam, by default the user is in the following groups:01:36
Seveasuid=1000(dennis) gid=1000(dennis) groups=20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),44(video),103(plugdev),107(lpadmin),108(scanner),117(admin),118(fuse),1000(dennis)01:36
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acer_Toma- nm i was thinking frevo01:36
acer_freevo*01:36
Toma-oic :)01:36
RemdulBroam: Any ideas?01:36
Seveas(except not in fuse)01:36
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taxmanDarthFrog, I missed that question, but I really don't know either01:37
ShadyHow does ubotu work?01:37
sorush20guys what is the breezy backports repositories?01:37
BroamRemdul:  Do you have any other 'live CD's?01:37
Shadowpillarlike I said01:37
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ShadowpillarNo permissions have been changed01:37
Shadowpillarat all01:37
Toma-sorush20: there are none :O01:37
taxmanShady, what do you want to know?01:37
Shadowpillarthis is what's lame01:37
RemdulBroam: several. Try the live or install?01:37
Shadowpillarreiserfs01:37
ShadowpillarI use reiserfs01:37
sorush20Toma-: you sure?01:37
Toma-positive01:38
BroamRemdul:  Try live first.01:38
Shadowpillarcould that be the issue with permissions?01:38
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Shadytaxman, If it is possible to use windows games with some time of emulator01:38
bimberiShady: ubotu is a "blootbot" (essentially a perl script)01:38
Shadowpillarso no one can help me....01:38
BroamRemdul:  I have a gateway 2k machine that refuses to acknowledge one of my SuSE live CD's as having a valid boot sector, but it'll take a FreeBSD cd.  Ubuntu is untested (I gave it to my parents when SuSE didn't want to install--and that's what I was using at the time)01:38
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Shadowpillarthis is great. just great01:38
Seveasubotu, tell Shady about yourself01:38
acer_Toma- how hard is the setup?01:39
BroamShadowpillar:  I'm sorry.  I'm not that skilled.  You could probably try adding your main user account to a few extra groups01:39
acer_Toma-, using synaptic wont make it easier?01:39
Broamubotu, tell Broam about yourself01:39
RemdulBroam: It still rebooted01:39
ShadowpillarBroam, been ther, done that01:39
Shadowpillarthere*01:39
ShadowpillarBroam, and it isnt my user group only01:39
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Shadowpillarit's ALL users except root01:39
Shadowpillarlike I said01:39
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USCRyan*question* can anyone tell me how to change the runlevel so i can install nvidia drivers?01:40
BroamShadow:  Did you try running the process again but letting it go to completion this time?01:40
taxmanShady, I've heard the two "emulators" based on wine work pretty well, but you need a pretty fast machine if you want to use 3d games01:40
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BroamRemdul:  Hmm.  Both live and install cause your machine to instantly reboot01:40
ShadowpillarBroam, yes01:40
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RemdulBroam: Yes.It loads 2 files, says Ready. then reboots.01:40
ShadowpillarBroam, I'm think I might have messed up the filesystem, only thing I can think happened01:41
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BroamRemdul:  Is there any prompt for a menu?01:41
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ExDeadhello all01:41
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RemdulBroam: theres a Boot: then I have a cursor. the command prompt from the CD01:41
BroamRemdul:  If you hit enter, or do you not get a chance to do so?01:42
Shadytaxman, thanks for the info I'll try it out later, Just wanted to see if I can just be free of having to OS's on the comp.01:42
ExDeadhey people i need help with synaptic01:42
chrisx1any1 know of a good FTPd server?01:42
evianAnyone running firefox 1.5? I get this grey empty rectangle region at the bottom of the window, wasting a lot of screen space.01:42
BroamExDead:  Ask away01:42
RemdulBroam: If I hit enter, it reboots. If I type something in, it doesnt.01:42
Broamevian:  I'm running FF 1.5 in Dapper (don't run Dapper)01:42
BroamRemdul:  Type "linux"01:42
navaroneis room frozen?01:42
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RemdulBroam: Reboots to that too01:42
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evianyeah I'm using Breezy01:43
BroamRemdul:  memtest?01:43
taxmanShady, most likely, though I'm locked in so far for some stuff my wife needs. I may try crossover now that I have the space for it01:43
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Broamevian:  I've seen about 2-3 hacks for getting FF 1.5 in Breezy01:43
Remdulfrom the prompt?01:43
BroamRemdul:  yeah01:43
RemdulBroam: I ran memtest86 for 36 hours.01:43
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chrisx1any1 know of a good FTPd server?01:43
ExDeadi cant update nothing01:43
RemdulBroam: I'll run it from the cd then, I guess01:43
BroamRemdul:  I take it you have two machines? :)01:43
RemdulBroam: Yup01:44
BroamShadowpillar:  I'm about out of ideas short of reinstall (which is bad)01:44
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bimberichrisx1: vsftpd gets recommended a lot01:44
wby87hi everyone:)01:44
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BroamRemdul:  Wait01:44
Broamthat works?01:44
RemdulBroam: Aight.01:44
chrisx1bimberi, its easy to configure?01:44
BroamRemdul:  So memtest works, but neither install utility does01:45
jen_Quick question... How do I change default applications? Say I want to change my default media player to Mplayer instead of Totem...01:45
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RemdulBroam: Yeah01:45
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bimberichrisx1: sorry, i don't know (i use ssh for file transfers)01:45
RemdulBroam: it's got me all sorts of confused.01:45
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BroamRemdul:  Can you boot another CD from the drive and have it work, say a windows install disk or something?01:45
ubuntusu people01:45
BroamEnter password:01:45
ubuntusup*01:45
Broam:)01:45
RemdulBroam: I've gotten windows to work. I never went through with the installation though01:46
chrisx1bimberi,  ok01:46
ShadyWell since I'm here, and learning, what was your number one resource for learning to use linux (anyone?)01:46
BroamRight, don't agree to the EULA and you can try to take it back01:46
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BroamRemdul:  Is this brand spanking new?01:46
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ubuntuis there a free emulator for dx9 games?01:46
BroamShady:  I don't feel like my skills are advancing at work01:46
ShadowpillarBroam, luckily my personal data is all saved to separate partitions01:46
RemdulBroam: No, it has a corrupted version of Windows on it.01:46
BroamShadowpillar:  Smart man01:46
bimberiShady: #ubuntu :P01:47
Shadowpillarcedega01:47
Shadowpillaror wine01:47
chrisx1is google down?:o01:47
Shadowpillarisnt perfect01:47
ubuntuno  not  5 minutes agop01:47
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tonyyarussoShady: Google under Windows first (softmodem-needed a driver), then lots more of Google plus IRC here.01:47
wby87google is never down:)01:47
chrisx1takin a while01:47
HobbseeShady: ubuntuforums.org wiki.ubuntu.com and google01:47
__ngmlinuxanyone here know anything about networking cameras or ethernet in Ubuntu?01:47
BroamRemdul:  Hmm.01:47
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ShadowpillarBroam, my home directory isnt, but most of my major files are01:47
ubuntuthats why i know i have a connection problem if google doesnt come up01:47
Shadowpillarluckily I can just back it up if worse comes to worst01:48
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BroamShadowpillar:  Since you can get in as root, I'd say back your stuff up in preperation, in case your attempts to fix it screw the pooch01:48
chrisx1try it01:48
chrisx1www.google.com01:48
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__ngmlinuxwhat do I need to do if I want to hook up a network camera directly to a PC? other than a crossover cable?01:48
__ngmlinuxthere must be some kind of routing required01:48
wby87question: is there any threads/posts/etc. that guides you through installing dual system ubuntu? (windows/ubuntu)01:49
BroamRemdul:  There might be some hardware address that linux is probing and it's causing it to error out, panic, and reboot01:49
ubuntudoes anybod know a work around when port forwarding doesnt work for hosting a game?01:49
Hobbsee!tell wby87 about dualboot01:49
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RemdulBroam: Any way I can fix that, do you think?01:49
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BroamRemdul:  You can specify things to have it ignore when you pass it boot options01:49
Broamsince i can get into the boot menu on Theodora (my misbehaving laptop) lemme try Ring TFM and see what I can find01:50
RemdulBroam: I tried linux ACPI=off, still did. Is that the wrong thing?01:50
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BroamRemdul:  That'd be power management.  If this box is 2003 or newer you shouldn't have to do that01:50
RemdulBroam: I think its 200201:50
BroamHmm...01:50
Broamlemme read manuals.  Theo can at least boot off of CD01:50
Hobbseewby87: it's pretty simple :)01:51
BroamLet's see....01:51
BroamRemdul:  And I quote:01:51
ubuntuis winamp linux ready?01:51
navaroneRemdul, what's wrong...I jsut got herer01:51
ubuntuor do i have to run wine01:51
Broam"If your system hangs when booting, and the last message you see iss "aec671x-detect.." try01:51
Broamgdth=disable:y01:51
Hobbseeubuntu: why not use xmms? it's very similar to winamp01:52
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Toma-ubuntu: cant you use a linux alternative?01:52
Broamubuntu:  You can also use Beep Media player01:52
RemdulNavarone: I cant get the linux to install on my computer. It reboots every time I tell it to install, no matter how.01:52
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ubuntudoes it have a built in library to browse?01:52
Toma-but yes, winamp is wine ready01:52
BroamNavarone:  Remdul can run memtest, we're thinking the kerne's panicking01:52
BroamRemdul:  Try this...01:52
SCMarkI just got a dell 2005FPW LCD.  How do I configure it so that I'm not using 1280x1024 anymore01:52
navaroneis it a laptop?01:52
Shadyshould i always after right-click/eject to get cds out?01:52
__ngmlinuxanybody know how to setup networking for a direct camera?01:52
Broamlinux gdth=disable:y noapic nolapic01:53
ShadowpillarChecking Semantic tree:01:53
Shadowpillarfinished01:53
ShadowpillarNo corruptions found01:53
navaroneShady...taht's the way it works I think01:53
__ngmlinuxSCMark try OS X01:53
Shadowpillar....great.01:53
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__ngmlinux1280x1024 is pretty good for linux01:53
BroamWell it's not corrupt01:53
Shadynavarone, sorry for the bad grammar, couple of things going on.01:53
dwhsixSCMark: once someone tells you, tell me too... I asked the same question about 2 hours ago with no response...01:53
Nihil85hallo!01:53
BroamHola~01:53
navaroneShady...nm as long as you ignore more typos...;)01:54
BroamRemdul:  Any love?01:54
ubuntuhas compiling become automated for linux yet? like a .exe file etc.01:54
SCMark__ngmlinux: I don't think you understand the question01:54
navaronemore=my01:54
RemdulBroam: Whatcha mean? Try what?01:54
BroamTry booting with the command:01:54
Toma-SCMark: try hitting ctl-alt-+ or -01:54
Broamlinux gdth=disable:y noapic nolapic01:54
tonyyarussoSay, I know we're waiting for Firefox 1.5 to go through Dapper, but I was wondering if anyone's familiar with what the timetable for that might be?01:54
__ngmlinuxSCMark, agreed01:55
BroamRemdul:  if not...this is a really esoteric question...do you know what disk drive / IDE controller you have in that box?01:55
Broamtonyyarusso:  "When it's done" I guess.01:55
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dwhsixSCMark: I think what's needed is editing the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to make additional resolutions available...01:55
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RemdulBroam: Lemme see if this works real fast01:55
BroamIt works 'okay' in Dapper--it functions but there's integration to be done01:55
insomndhow can i modify the "system" menu in gnome 2.12? i tried the configuration editor with no luck01:55
dwhsixbut I believe mistakes in that file can leave you really hosed01:55
Nihil85I have a lot of problems with Ubuntu. I cannot open Synaptic, i cannot see wma and dvd (even if i installed totem xine and all its libraries and VLAN), i cannot change date and hour, the system freezes sometimes (about one time every two days)01:55
SCMarkdwhsix: I think so too.  I'm gonna try a dpkg-reconfigure01:56
tonyyarussoBroam: Fair enough.01:56
Nihil85i used the right password, obviously01:56
ubuntuwhat i hate if the libraries adress changes or ou have to renew that stuff01:56
sorush20there are breezy back ports here http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy-backports/01:56
sorush20!backports01:56
ubotuwell, backports is Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports01:56
dwhsixSCMark: I think I tried that and it didn't give me anything more than what 1280x102401:56
insomndi am trying to edit the command that launches that item, e.g. "Add Applications" to run gksu synaptic01:56
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Broamtonyyarusso:  There are 'hacks' and scripts available to get FF 1.5 in Breezy if you are so determined, but I don't recommend them.01:57
tonyyarussoAlso, I know there was a bit of a backlog previously in the Ubuntu ShipIt; anyone know if that's been cleared or still an issue?  (Wondering about Breezy disk arrivals to distribute to friends, but knowing it'll probably be a while...)01:57
SCMarkdwhsix: I'll try the more advanced options to see if I can maually add the top resolution01:57
Toma-sorush20: well thats the first ive heard of it :D01:57
insomndis it safe to rename gksudo to gksudo_ and symlink gksudo to gksu?01:57
BroamNihil85:  I've got a laptop that loves teh locking.  I'm looking into it01:57
Toma-sorush20: sorry for the misleading info before01:57
tonyyarussoBroam: I'm not planning to try anything like that; just curious.01:57
RemdulBroam: Still rebooted.01:58
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jen_Quick question... How do I change default applications? Say I want to change my default media player to Mplayer instead of Totem...01:58
BroamRemdul:  blaaaah01:58
RemdulBroam: I know it....01:58
ubuntuSo what distro you guys think is the best coded utilizing your hardware?  or is the answere obvious given were in a ubuntu chat01:58
BroamJen_:  I know you can edit preferences preferred applications but it only does web mail and terminal01:58
owner989i would say ubuntu is01:58
bimberiinsomnd: gksudo is already symlinked to gksu01:58
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jen_Broam: Yeah, I noticed that... =(01:58
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bimberiubotu tell jen_ about defaultapp01:59
insomndbimberi, but gksudo is differnet, doesn't work if sudo is disabled. gksu works as root01:59
sorush20there is a dapper repository list here too01:59
burnhamdhey guys I have a samba problem01:59
sorush20http://packages.ubuntu.com/01:59
jgrievesdoes anyone know if .bdf's are cross platform compatible with X?01:59
jgrievesi.e freebsd.inux01:59
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bastiHello, while running ./configure (to install mmsv2) I get the following error:01:59
jgrievesi.e freebsd/linux01:59
Nihil85Broam, i'm not using a laptop01:59
basti"Error: configure failed for commoncpp201:59
basti"01:59
BroamRemdul:  Do you know what's the hard disk in that thing?02:00
jen_bimberi: But say that I'm trying to switch say... streaming wm to a different program...?02:00
bastiCan someone help me ?02:00
BroamNihil:  Probably not the same thing then02:00
RemdulBroam: I dont. No clue02:00
rabihHello02:00
bimberijen_: got me there, don't know sry :|02:00
ubuntudoes anybody know a site with a bunch of source file programs so i can compile02:00
Broamjen_:  I can't figure that out at the moment.  I'm just glad I can select XMMS from the context menu02:00
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rabihIn fact I have a problem to use root in ubuntu !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!02:00
SCMarkok.  I'm going to restart gdm.  brb02:00
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sorush20with the ever growning world of free software when will the bubble burst on microsoft and such gients?02:01
bimberiinsomnd: k02:01
burnhamdhow do I get linux to act as the server of a windows networks02:01
bastiaby idea?02:01
bastib=n02:01
burnhamdI really only need it for printing02:01
insomndbimberi, hmm even if i change it it still doesnt work02:01
rabihHi for all02:01
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insomndhow can i make ubuntu use gksudo as gksu?02:01
djk_sorush20: never?02:01
chrisx1any1 recommend a good ftp server other than proftpd and vsftpd02:01
fr500someone using gnome-phone-manager?02:01
bimberiubotu tell burnhamd about samba02:01
Toma-sorush20: when the marketing people from myer and walmart decide to start giving away free software02:01
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BroamRemdul:  I'm tapped out of ideas02:02
Toma-oh no i said an opinion :( sorry Seveas02:02
rabihCan any one help me please ???????????????02:02
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tonyyarussoIs there a painless way to install the Java Runtime Environment and enable it for Firefox?  The last time I tried it involved copying to ff library folders and didn't end up working.02:02
RemdulBroam: thank you for trying. I might as well just reinstall windows.....02:02
mkyb14how do you check to see what version of xwindows your running?02:02
BroamYeah but that's giving up! :)02:02
basti:(02:02
Hobbsee!tell Remdul about javadeb02:02
insomndi think i found it02:02
Toma-rabih: you odnt 'use' root on ubuntu. you use 'sudo'02:03
BroamHobbsee: ya missed02:03
insomnd /etc/gksu.conf02:03
bimberirabih: what's the problem02:03
Broam!tell tonyyarusso about javadeb02:03
sorush20i've found the backports but now I'm stuck as to how to add it to the apt sources list could anyone help please?02:03
insomndsudo-mode = no02:03
Hobbseewhoops!  i ddi02:03
rabihyes my problem is02:03
Hobbseesorush20: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list02:03
insomndmaybe not02:03
Hobbseein a terminal02:03
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Broamsorush20:  You may want to back up the file first02:03
rabihI c'ant install the driver of my WIFI02:03
bastiis here nobody able to help me? I have further informtation, but I dont wanna post them in channel, because its to much02:03
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navaroneRemdul, have you tried "linux ide=nodma"...?02:03
djk_ubotu tell basti about pastebin02:04
RemdulThis is ironic, it really is.... I thought Linux was the better operating systems. it wont install though.02:04
BroamMan, nodma!  Forgot about that one02:04
Remdulnavarone: Will do right now02:04
tonyyarussoLooks like a much nicer idea.  Thanks Broam.02:04
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BroamRemdul:  Try ida=nodma, I think he's onto something02:04
sorush20Hobbsee: here is the backport , Im not sure if its the repository or just a list of the files that are in the repository? http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy-backports/02:04
Broamnp02:04
Toma-sorush20: open up synaptic and click repositories and just add it thru there02:04
bimberiubotu tell rabih about wireless02:04
bimberiubotu tell rabih about wifi02:05
bastihttp://ubuntu.pastebin.com/45034702:05
sorush20when is there going to be a competition on naming the versions of ubuntu? who the hell choose breezy..02:05
Remdulit's cursed and still rebooted.02:05
mkyb14how do you check to see what version of xwindows your running?02:05
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BroamRemdul:  Hmm.  Can you disable certain 'unnecessary' hardware in BIOS?02:05
navaroneid the gdth thing the only error?02:05
rabihyes    TOMAS02:05
Hobbsee!tell sorush20 about backports02:05
RemdulNot really.... It's all onboard02:05
jesse_Is It Possibly to run .exe files on ubuntu?02:05
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navaroneno jesse_02:05
jesse_Possible*02:06
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Toma-mkyb14: Xorg -version02:06
navaroneunless you are using wine...but I dunno about wine never used it02:06
Hobbsee!tell jesse_ about windows02:06
sorush20Toma-: you don't get it, having a look at the repositories there the link that I have http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy-backports/ doesn't compare with the links that are there hence my apprehension in adding the link?02:06
BroamWho needed breezy backports URL again?02:06
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bimberijesse_: yes, with wine (or cedega, or crossover office)02:06
jesse_is there anyway to install anything that i bought that the disk has a setup.exe file?02:06
Broamdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse02:06
jesse_How do i get wine?02:07
djk_ubotu tell sorush20 about howcome02:07
Broamdeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ breezy-extras main restricted universe multiverse02:07
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Toma-sorush20: thats interesting...02:07
Hobbsee!tell jesse_ about wine02:07
mkyb14thankyou02:07
Broamsorush20:  Read my previous 2 lines, those are the deb sources02:07
feghi, how to tell thunderbird to handle news:// ?02:07
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insomndhow can i force gksudo to ask for ROOT password instead of current user password02:07
jesse_thank you!02:07
kuraiahi!02:07
kuraiai need help!02:07
Hobbsee!tell kuraia about ask02:08
powerjAnyone having some problems with hotplug, on current dappy??02:08
BroamAnyone know how to mangle MIME types in Breezy?02:08
Broampowerj:  My hotplug is fine02:08
kuraiai'm spanish speaker02:08
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sorush20ola02:08
kuraiabut i haven't found help in ubuntu-es02:08
fr500man02:08
kuraiaols sorush2002:08
BroamBenvenido kuraia. Que necesita ud?02:08
powerjBroam, with dapper?02:08
kuraiaeres espaol?02:08
fegwhen i click on news:// links nothing happens02:08
Broampowerj:  Runnin' Dapper (living on the bleeding edge)02:08
kuraiasoy novata sorush2002:08
rabih in fact I have a problem with root using02:08
fr500so far breezy has been a pita. Hoary was almost flawless02:08
Broamkuraia:  No, soy americano02:09
sorush20kuraia: so no I don't speak spanish but I'm willing to help02:09
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kuraiaok02:09
powerjBroam, it wont load any drivers that requires a firmware.02:09
kuraiasorush20 i want to change my display02:09
mkyb14wha's the difference between XFree86 4.3 and X.Org 6.8  ... for ati drivers download02:09
Broampowerj:  Hmm.  You got a wifi driver or something?02:09
powerjBroam, ipw2200  intel standard centrino chip.02:09
kuraiasorush20 to 32 bits02:09
kuraiasorush20 do you know how can i do it?02:10
bimberimkyb14: ubuntu breezy (and hoary) use x.org02:10
powerjBroam, trying to modprobe is usless.02:10
kuraiaBroam hola soy novata en esto02:10
sorush20kuraia: you don't have to type my name everytime you can just type a little of my name and press tab then that will fill out the rest of the name..02:10
Broampowerj:  I know intel requires firmware.  I know the OpenBSD required it in /etc/firmware02:10
kuraiaBroam, quiero cambiar mi display a 32 bits02:10
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powerjBroam, before code in /etc/hotplug/firmware.agent make sure the firmware was loaded.02:10
fr500my laptop wont shut down, it halts and freezes there, anyone had that issue?02:10
Broamkuraia:  Yo trato a "edit -> screen resolution" pero no puede cambiar a 32 bits02:11
tonyyarussofr500: Only in Windows :)02:11
powerjBroam, but dapper current is removing this package hotplug, that this files are in.02:11
sorush20kuraia: I think you can use the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server command and change the setting of your monitor02:11
fr500hmmm02:11
Broampowerj:  I know hotplug got changed to another package02:11
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Broamtry using packages.ubuntu.com to find what it is now02:11
sorush20kuraia: are you using kde?02:11
fr500guess i gotta go back to hoary02:11
powerjBroam, I have been searching allredy, i cant find it out.02:11
Broamkuraia:  usa ud. el KDE?02:11
kuraiasorush20, thanks02:11
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Broamde nada. :P02:11
mkyb14what about *cough fedora02:11
fr500bluetoot wont work, and same for acpi02:11
kuraiasorush20, i'll do it02:11
Broampowerj:  Lemme see what it's called now02:12
jesse_will wine allow me to run my setup.exe for my webcam02:12
kuraiaBroam, uso gnome02:12
sorush20kuraia: be careful02:12
tritiumpowerj, what are you trying to find out?02:12
fr500jesse_, will run, wont work02:12
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jesse_y?02:12
bimberimkyb14: sorry, no idea :) (#fedora?)02:12
fr500jesse_, even if it installs, linux apps wont find the cam02:12
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kuraiasorush20, but haven't that package02:13
kuraiasorush20, maybe i have to edit some file02:13
jesse_is there anything that will find it?02:13
Broampowerj: There's a hotplug in my sources02:13
Broampowerj:  If you reinstall it what happens?02:13
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powerjBroam, it will remove ubuntu-desktop, and a lot of other packages.02:13
ubuntu__23402:13
Broamsheeet.02:13
fr500jesse_, what cam?02:13
ubuntu__12302:14
powerjBroam, also udevd vill be gone, that is really required to boot.02:14
jesse_its a Ezonics02:14
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navaroneRemdul,  any luck?02:14
Broampowerj: I see the hal packages are still here02:14
Remdulnavarone: None, at all.02:14
powerjtritium, trying to make my wifi card work, now when they have removed hotplug package from dappy.02:14
powerjBroam, yes they are still in, youst hotplug that seems to be depricated in some way.02:15
BroamQuestion is...what are they using instead...02:15
powerjBroam, yes.02:15
BroamI mean, I'm still having my devices detected...02:15
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powerjCan you check the logs of a package, and see what the packager say when changing its status?02:15
Remdulnavarone: any ideas?02:15
Broampowerj:  lemme just search synaptic a few times02:15
Toma-powerj: theres a changelog part in synaptic when you click the package02:16
Broampowerj:  Is this an EFI -based machine?02:16
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BroamToma-: well let's read that , shall we?02:17
powerjBroam, no efi boot, and nothing exiting in changelog02:17
khalifI'm trying to hide the GRUB menu on boot up: from the terminal I styped sudo kwrite /boot/grub/menu.lst  The instructions that I found said to uncomment the hiddenmenu line. I did that and rebooted, but the grub menu still showed. Whaat did I do wrong?02:17
Toma-...02:17
Biscuitian_WarheCan somebody help me set up PPP with CHAP MD5?02:17
powerjMaby its the other packages that fight hotplug that will have some exiting in their changelog02:17
Broampowerj: conflicts with usbmgr02:17
khalifAnd yes I did save the file... :O02:17
ubuntuevidentally people are working hard to crack the xbox 360 for linux use02:18
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tritiumpowerj, udev is replacing hotplug02:18
ubuntuwould be nice 3 core comp02:18
Toma-ubuntu: yeh so it wont crash as much XD02:18
powerjThese packages are beeing removed if i try to install hotplug: gnome-volume-manager hal hal-device-manager hwdb-client initramfs-tools02:18
powerj  ubuntu-desktop udev update-notifier usplash02:18
powerjtritium, but udev is not loading any firmware at all.02:18
ajmitchpowerj: you're on dapper, right?02:19
navaroneRemdul, still looking thru threads...slow going...:)02:19
Broamajmitch: powerj is on dapper02:19
ajmitchpowerj: why are you trying to install hotplug?02:19
Remdulnavarone: Thank you for looking. :)02:19
navaroneis it laptop?02:19
wby87hi, another question, I have a pentium d cpu running, should i get the 64-bit version? whats the difference between the regular 32 and 64? will my system run significantly faster?02:19
powerjajmitch, yes.02:19
ajmitchpowerj: as tritium said, udev is replacing it02:19
Broamwby87:  I don't think you can run the 64-bit version...02:19
ajmitchso the simple answer is "don't"02:19
Broamwby87: Maybe I'm wrong02:19
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burnhamdanyone here use the composite manager02:20
burnhamdxcompmgr?02:20
powerjajmitch, becouse udev cant handle firmware loading.02:20
Broamajmitch: how do we get firmware to load then?02:20
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ajmitchpowerj: you need to have the firmware in a different directory02:20
Broamodla: How else we gonna learn02:20
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odlaRTM?02:20
wby87why not? i think pintium d has the xmt64 thing build in? so it is a 64 cpu right?02:20
oriani neede an updated sources list for apt-get02:20
CaptainMorganyo02:20
ajmitchyou have been following the ubuntu-devel list, right? :)02:20
Broamwby87: If it does, you can try the 64 bit version02:20
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Broamajmitch: On occaision02:20
odlaif you're running dapper you should be reading manuals02:21
burnhamdi use 64bit02:21
wby87will it be alot faster? or just a mild increasement?02:21
burnhamdit is faster02:21
ajmitchodla: nah, manuals don't keep up02:21
powerjajmitch, when a module is loaded into the kernel, that require some firmware, the kernel will put an hotplug action == also an udev action, to an netlinkbus, the hotplug packaga walks his configs, and sees that a firmware is required, he copy the firmware into an entry in /sys fs.02:21
burnhamdbut you have to chroot in to 32bit to use some apps02:21
ajmitchpowerj: I understand how the firmware loading worked02:21
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transgressi didn't notice a huge change between 64bit and 32bit to be honest... i mean there was enough of an increase to just notice... but not a lot IMHO.02:21
powerjajmitch, actually monitoring with strace shows noting even wanting to see a firmware.02:21
ajmitchpowerj: you need to put it in /lib/firmware02:21
burnhamdmild increasement02:21
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powerjI have.02:22
Biscuitian_WarheWhat do I need to play WMV/ASF files?02:22
powerjajmitch, but still.02:22
burnhamdI would go 32bit unless you have too much ram02:22
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navaroneRemdul, you tried "pci=noacpi"...?02:22
jgrievesdoes anyone know if the cursors menu in > pref > mouse picks up .pcf fonts?02:22
ClayGhow do i boot from floppy if my cdroom isn't bootable? is there a prog like rawright that ubuntu uses?02:22
oriani neede an updated sources list for apt-get02:22
Remdulnavarone: Yeah, I'll try again though02:22
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powerjajmitch, another idea?02:23
trkoreckyCan someone guide me through setting up a dedicated Half-Life 2 server?02:23
djk_ubotu tell orian about sources02:23
wby87i have 2 gig, but i don't planning on doing anything fancy, i just want to learn linux in a "friendly" enviroment, so maybe i should just get the 32 ones?02:23
burnhamdi would02:23
felipe_Hello, somebody know how to make the menus in gnome transparent like the panels?02:23
wby87ok, got it, thanks02:23
ajmitchpowerj: assuming you have the latest packages (including kernel, udev, module-init-tools, etc), you've put files in the right place, and it still doesn't work02:23
Remdulnavarone: no go02:23
burnhamdyou can use wine and my favorite OPERA with 32 bit02:23
navaroneRemdul, might wan to check if bios is set for PnP...I think it should be disabled...dunno if that has anythign to do with it02:23
ajmitchthen maybe you can file a bug02:23
wby87opera the browser?02:23
Toma-burnhamd: opera has been released for linux for sometime now02:23
burnhamdyea02:23
Toma-no need for wine02:24
Remdulnavarone: I dont think I have anything like that in the bios02:24
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burnhamdto TOMA yea but it is hard to get running under 64bit mode02:24
BroamRemdul:  Navarone has a point.  You want to make sure that your BIOS settings aren't trying to fake out Win 95. Usually there's a "PNP OS" or "report No FDD for Win 95' and other silliness02:24
SuperIDI need to install libqt0-ruby1.8  Qt bindings for Ruby.  I searched with synaptic but cannot find it.  Can anyone recommend a repository that might provide this?02:24
djk_ClayG: http://linux.simple.be/tools/sbm02:24
powerjajmitch, i use a custom kernel, but everyting else is latest.02:24
wby87ic, but i've been using firefox for a while now, kinda hard to switch:)02:24
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RemdulBroam: I'll check again real fast02:24
powerjajmitch, 2.6.14-cks302:24
ClayGnm02:24
felipe_in which repository can I find the xbindkeys?02:24
jgrievesdoes anyone know if the cursors menu in > pref > mouse picks up .pcf fonts?02:25
ClayGit just occured to me,02:25
ClayGI'm an idiot02:25
chrisx1omfg just had massive spider crawl on my hand02:25
chrisx1:|02:25
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djk_ClayG: that's a solution too ;)02:25
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ClayGI just made a bootdisk for a slackware install, I dont know what made not think of using it02:25
clemslackeranybody had the problem of dvdshrink not recognizing their drive?02:25
ajmitchpowerj: you'll probably run into problems with a custom kernel then02:25
BroamSince there's been some turnover, can anyone give me an idea of the best way to proceed on rescuing my / partition on a fresh Breezy install that has a corrupt superblock?02:26
ajmitchpowerj: you have tried with the kernel in dapper?02:26
BroamAnd no, I can't put the drive in another machine02:26
powerjajmitch, it works perfectly before.02:26
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ajmitchthat was before :)02:26
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robnycHello, i downloaded mp3s with apollon and i installed the mp3 stuff and i still cant find it to play it02:26
=== Broam can't find e2fsck on the breezy install
trkoreckyCan anyone help me install and run a dedicated server for Half-Life 2?02:27
bimberiSuperID: libqt0-ruby1.8 is in the universe repository02:27
SCMarkwell I was able to get 1600x1054 at 57Hz.  Any Idea how to get this thing running at 60Hz?02:27
ClayGif a distro only had fvwm for a windows manager what display manager would you suspect it of having?02:27
SCMarkI've got a dell 2005FPW02:27
BroamClayG:  The only distro I've seen that did that was like Solaris 602:27
powerjajmitch,  i am looking into kernel sources.02:27
ajmitchBroam: e2fsck is in /sbin02:27
powerjajmitch, trying to find a custum ubuntu patch to apply.02:27
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Broamtrkorecky: Is there a linux build?  if not you will need wine02:27
Broamajmitch: On the install CD?02:27
SCMarkand who was it that wanted to know how to get native resolution in this thing?02:27
Toma-ClayG: xdm02:28
CoweaterClayG: there is no "display manager"02:28
SuperIDbimberi:  hmmm....I seem to have both source and binary universe repositorys enabled...but synaptic doesn't list anything for libqt002:28
trkoreckyBroam: I believe so, as I've seen others running a linux server02:28
kuraiahas anybody installed qemu?02:28
sorush20guys I don't get it here is the repository directory using adept I have figured out the syntax of the repository addition but It just will not update when I click on fetch updates? any ideas here is the repository http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports/main/02:28
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ajmitchBroam: um.. possibly? :) I'd try the live cd if you have one02:28
ajmitchpowerj: there are several patches applied02:28
kuraiahas anyody installed qemu?02:28
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OceansblueAny FlightGear people on line?02:28
Broamajmitch: I'll have to find a blank CD then.  I have an old SuSE Live CD (9.1).  Maybe that'll work02:28
kuraiahas anybody installed qemu?02:28
powerjajmitch, 2.6.15 is that one released yey?02:29
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powerjyet?02:29
Remdulnavarone: PNP = Plug and Play OS?02:29
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BroamRemdul:  PNP = plug and play OS yes02:29
BroamRemdul:  Try changing that02:29
RemdulBroam: it was on Yes02:29
bimberiSuperID: hm, should be there, it's on all architectures - http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/interpreters/libqt0-ruby1.802:29
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BroamHahahaha nice02:29
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BroamMy laptop is booting the install CD, and froze at the second period02:30
Remdul Broam: Made no difference.02:30
BroamThis thing is a DOG02:30
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BroamRemdul:  bleh02:30
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RemdulBroam: I'm sorry02:30
hcatlin_how do i launch gnome (its installed) after i set it to not auto-launch on boot.02:30
hcatlin_?02:30
tagI'm trying to use cpan, on a pretty fresh install, it won't install any packages because it claims it's unable to write makefiles from Makefile.PL02:30
BroamRemdul:  Unless you want to try *everything* all at once...I'm out of ideas02:30
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bimberihcatlin_: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start02:31
kuraiahas anybody installed qemu?02:31
kuraiahas anybody installed qemu?02:31
tagExtUtils::MakeMaker exists, and it always actually writes the makefile so far as I can tell02:31
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Broamkuraia: I do not have that installed, mil disculpas02:31
tagbut for some reason, cpan think's its returning a bad status02:31
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SuperIDbimberi, not to be obtuse....but shouldn't apt-get install libqt0-ruby* work?02:31
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RemdulBroam: I really appreciate ya trying to help me. I appreciate it greatly.02:31
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tagI've had this problem on another machine I was running ubuntu on - but I've had others work fine - any ideas what's missing?02:31
BroamRemdul:  No problem.  I'm trying as much as I can, this place is fast-paced!02:31
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HrdwrBoByes02:32
bimberiSuperID: no, wildcards don't work02:32
jgrievesanyone know how to install individual cursors in gnome02:32
RemdulBroam: I noticed. You're helping a lot of people out at once02:32
SuperIDhah ok ty02:32
BroamRemdul:  95wpm and no love on the superblock02:32
fr500tag, what was the prob?02:32
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RemdulBroam: Nice! Not sure what the superblock is though02:32
tagfr500: I just explained the problem.02:33
BroamSuperblock is the main...um...information table for where stuff is stored on the hard disks02:33
BroamMine is fubar on this laptop02:33
BroamAnd the problem is02:33
RemdulAh! lol, aight.02:33
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Broamthe program which I should be able to use to fix it?  On that partition02:33
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tagI'm trying to use cpan, on a pretty fresh install, it won't install any packages because it claims it's unable to write makefiles from Makefile.PL02:33
RemdulThat cant be good.02:33
tagbut for some reason, cpan think's its returning a bad status02:33
BroamSo I've been looking for it on the install CD.  ajmitch pointed me to the right spot.02:33
tagExtUtils::MakeMaker exists, and it always actually writes the makefile so far as I can tell02:33
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tagI've had this problem on another machine I was running ubuntu on - but I've had others work fine - any ideas what's missing?02:33
tagthere02:33
tagI've repeated my explanation :-)02:33
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navaroneRemdul, how old is puter?02:34
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fr500was it a fresh install in the case that worked too?02:34
Remdulnavarone: 2002, I *think* I got it from a friend02:34
bastihttp://ubuntu.pastebin.com/45036502:34
bastican someome help me with that?02:34
Remdulnavarone: Possibly a 2001, but I dont think that old02:35
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jgrievesanyone know how to install individual cursors in gnome02:35
jgrievesi.e i want to throw a cursor into the gnome-panel02:35
ajmitchBroam: ext2/3 should store multiple superblocks if only that one is broken02:35
jgrievesMouse > cursors02:35
jgrievesand i hav eno idea where it is storing it02:35
Broamtag: Makefiles are teh voodoo02:35
Broamajmitch:  problem is that e2fsck is on the partition that is fubar02:35
tagno they aren't02:36
Broamajmitch: So I can't fix it because I have to unmount the partition first02:36
tagmakefiles are simple02:36
Broamtag:  Always were to me.  That and VHDL. :P02:36
tagthe point is, ExtUtils::MakeMaker writes the makefile02:36
jgrievesperahps its in .icons02:36
tagand this only happens in ubuntu02:36
tagand it only happens in some ubuntu installs02:36
Broamtag:  and the MakeMaker is crashing?02:36
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Broamtag:  Maybe you have a bum version of MakeMaker?02:36
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tagdoes a bum version of MakeMaker come with breezy?02:37
Broamtag:  I hope not!02:37
Broamtag:  Try seeing if there is an update on backports02:37
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oriani did su, entered root password, than cfdisk, and i got this : Opened disk read-only - you have no permission to write02:37
admod!help02:37
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Broamorian:  you need to remount the drive RW02:37
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tagBroam: Seems to be up to date here (including backports)02:37
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orianit is rw02:38
Broamorian:  It took me a bit of staring at the man pages and playing with mount to get it to go.  I recommend mount -v (for verbose mode) and -f (for fake)02:38
jaywhats the best way to do a podcast from linux02:38
jayis it just audacity?02:38
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Broamorian:  That's really odd.  Usually fstab does not lie02:38
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Broamorian:  you may not be able to run cfdisk on a mounted parition (fsck doesn't let you)02:38
GunbladeHow can i upgrade firefox?02:38
admod::stabs fstab::  dont lie again02:38
orian/dev/sda3 on /home type ext3 (rw)02:38
BroamGunblade:  Are you running Breezy?02:39
Gunblade5.1002:39
admodthats breezy02:39
djk_|awaywhat does "clearing orphaned inode" mean?02:39
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fworpanyone here know anything about breezy-ppc? ive just gotten through the setup, and when i go to sudo, it says 'sudo: unable to lookup gilligan via gethostbyname(), where gilligan is the hostname i setup when i installed it. I think it has something to do with choosing airport as the default network interface02:40
sorush20anyone here got the breezy backports?02:40
sorush20because I just managed to get mine ...02:40
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BroamYES  IT IS FSCKING02:40
JesusSaveshey guys02:40
Broamalthough I should have umounted it first02:40
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JesusSaveshow can i install a .rpm file in ubuntu?02:41
navaroneRemdul,  do you have raid scsi components?02:41
nekrataalhey02:41
sorush20would I be true in saying every one would like to become friends with their idol?02:41
GunbladeHow do i update firefox to 1.5?02:41
BroamGunblade: The official word is "wait."  I've seen 2 or 3 tricks to do the upgrade now but you have to be determined02:41
Remdulnavarone: Not to my knowledge02:41
BroamJesusSaves: Use 'alien'02:41
factotumhehe, just freaked out my wife, running her copy of photoshop 7 with xoffice hehe02:41
nekrataali have a webcam conected to my usb port, it is detected in Device Manager, but how can i use it?02:41
jgrievesdoes anyone know where cursors are stored and what type of file it is?02:41
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jgrievescompiled my cursors but i want gnome to pick them up02:41
sorush20Gunblade: you can't unless you change your repositories to the development version dapper..02:41
Broamubotu, tell JesusSaves about alien02:41
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nekostareh ok02:41
GunbladeBroam: ok thanks02:42
tritiumJesusSaves, are you sure there's not .deb of what you want to install?02:42
nekostarso i had windows on primary partition first then installed ubuntu for double boot02:42
orianwhich command do i have else than cfdisk to edit my partitions? since cfdisk doesnt work now02:42
BroamGunblade:  Sorry that's not the best response.  It will be in Breezy once it's finalized in Dapper02:42
orianit worked before02:42
nekostarthen windows got pissy so i had to just reinstall it02:42
nekostaris grub still gonna be in the mbr?02:42
nekostarand if not how do i get it back in there?02:42
mherwegorian: fdisk02:42
BroamBWAHAHAHA FIXED02:43
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mherwegorian: boot knoppix and use cfdisk or qtparted02:43
jgrievescompiled my cursors but i want gnome to pick them up02:43
jgrievesdoes anyone know where cursors are stored and what type of file it is?02:43
Broamorian:  gparted also is on the install disk IIRC02:43
intervalhi!02:43
Broamjgrieves:  No clue, I'm sorry.  You might be able to dig in /usr/bin/X1102:43
orianwhich command to use if i wanna see how much GB i have used in some directory?02:43
navaroneRemdul, I am readinga  thread with Debian 3.0 as subject and loading modules at installation. Is there a way to specify module to use at install...gdth specifically...? Broam?02:43
jgrievesBroam yep bin digging htere :)02:44
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jgrievesBroam i can't believe i can't find spec online  @ gnome02:44
icerabbitI have a quick question about Ubuntu.02:44
Remdulnavarone: I have no clue...02:44
Broamjgrieves: Hmm.  That's really odd02:44
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icerabbitI've searched the forums to no avail, and request your help as a last resort. I have an ATI Radeon X800 Pro. For some reason, X wont work. I tried "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" then selecting the Vesa Driver, but that doesnt work either. Any suggestions please?02:44
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jgrievesBroam maybe i'm just a bad searcher :\02:44
bimberiorian: du -sh /path/to/dir02:44
tritiumicerabbit, you followed the wiki page for ati?02:44
chrisx1YAY02:44
chrisx1ty02:44
chrisx1ops02:44
Broamicerabbit: Have you tried using the free driver, or if not, have you tried using the binary driver?02:44
chrisx1wrong window02:44
chrisx1lolz02:44
navaroneBroam>take a look here and see if it is in any way applicable to Remdul  http://www.debianhelp.org/Article3027.html02:44
Broamwill do.02:45
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BroamSonofa..IT'S STILL CORRUPT02:45
icerabbitfree driver, and binary driver? I have tried neither...02:45
tritium!tell icerabbit about ati02:45
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tritiumJesusSaves, which .rpm are you trying to install?02:45
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navaroneRemdul, did you try gdth=disable a sa install flag?02:46
BroamNavarone:  I sent that to him.02:46
ryanpghi, what mail lists are "required" for keeping up with dapper, including announcements and warnings?02:46
tritiumryanpg, ubuntu-devel, primarily02:46
Broamajmitch: I have a laptop partition here that's used for suspend to disk.  Do I just tell /etc/fstab to not mount it?02:46
icerabbiti've already tried "sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx" but it says that it cant find xorg-driver-fglrx02:46
prgHi can someone tell me what file to edit to change the boot loader default OS?02:47
tritiumicerabbit, then follow the wiki, and make sure you've installed the necessary packages02:47
Broamicerabbit:  are you stuck in terminal mode?02:47
navaroneBroam> I am not sure what hardware he has but the gdth reference seesm to suggest he has a scsi device or raid controller02:47
tritiumprg, /boot/grub/menu.lst02:47
Broamnavarone:  Yeah, I tried giving him that line and he wasn't able to get any love02:47
nickrudryanpg, dapper-changes can be interesting02:47
BroamRemdul: Can you crack the case for me?02:47
icerabbitYes broam, i am stuck in terminal02:47
Broamicerabbit: Do you have another video card you can swap in?02:47
icerabbitnope02:47
BroamUsually the case. ;(02:47
RemdulBroam: Already open02:48
tritiumicerabbit, you need both linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) and xorg-driver-fglrx02:48
QMarioIs this a scam for a free domain name?02:48
QMario http://www.freedomain.co.nr/basic.php02:48
BroamQMario: I wouldn't know, this is a channel about ubntu02:48
Remdulnavarone: I have, and sorry about that, went to talk to my folks a minute02:48
QMarioIf it is, how do I get a free domain name for a Ubuntu FTP Server?02:48
navaroneBraom> i don't suppose a biod update will give any love either...?02:48
Broamnavarone: It might actually02:49
navaronebios*02:49
icerabbithow exactly would i get them tritium?02:49
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QMarioMe?02:49
tritiumicerabbit, which processor do you have?02:49
QMarioHello Broam!!! :)02:49
icerabbit64bit02:49
tritiumicerabbit, which one?02:49
icerabbitathlon 6402:49
Broamhahah.02:49
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QMarioWhy?02:49
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QMarioHee hee hee!!! :)02:50
navaroned'oh02:50
ryanpgtritium, nickrud are people generally alerted to possible (likely) breakage on those lists? like "don't update for a few days" kinda warnings?02:50
QMarioHe?02:50
BroamYeah, theodora has two drives02:50
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bobbydhi02:50
khalifWhat does -xjf mean when using the Terminal02:50
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RemdulBroam: The case is already open because I was trying different harddrives to fix the problem earlier02:50
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jayanyone using audacity here02:50
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tritiumryanpg, it hsa been broken lately, as is usually the case early in development02:50
nickrudryanpg, no, not that I've seen.02:50
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bobbyddoes anyone here use a digital video camera under ubuntu? I want to buy a firewire camera to do live video capture, any suggestins?02:50
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jayhow do u move tracks around02:50
djk_|awaywhat does "clearing orphaned inode" mean?02:51
ryanpgtritium, do you know what's broken now?02:51
jayso they don't start all at the same time02:51
QMarioBroam, a REAL girlfriend?02:51
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sorush20goodnight everyone02:51
BroamHer daddy gave me this laptop02:51
QMarioDo you mean a human?02:51
Broamsorry we couldn't help sorush02:51
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tritiumryanpg, no, sorry02:51
QMarioOh okay!02:51
icerabbithmmm, so i suppose I'll have to download linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) and xorg-driver-fglrx through the console?02:51
ryanpgk, thanks tritium and nickrud02:51
navaroneRemdul, are you familar with flashing bios on motherboard? There is s lim chance that may help. I upgraded before installing to get LBA for my large drives02:51
Broamicerabbit:  Do you know what kernel version you're running?  I can give you the name of the packages02:51
icerabbit2.8602:51
Remdulnavarone: I am not, unfortunately.02:51
jayanyone02:52
egon_spenglerkhalif, -xjf means for tar to extract the file using bzip instead of gzip and preserve filenames/paths02:52
tritiumicerabbit, apt-cache search linux-amd64, and look for an appropriate kernel meta-package (e.g. linux-amd64-generic, linux-amd64-k8)02:52
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tritiumicerabbit, those will depend on and pull in a matching linux-restricted-modules when you install them02:52
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nickrudryanpg, it seems to me that the last two releases were pretty broken, up until about 2 months before release (this is just a casual observation from the outside)02:53
USCRyancan anyone help me with some problems im having installing my nividia drivers?02:53
tritiumicerabbit, or did you install a 32-bit version?02:53
Broamicerabbit:  apt-get install xserver-xorg-driver-ati02:53
icerabbitno, i installed the proper 64bit version02:53
JesusSavesi'm tryin to install tightvnc02:53
JesusSaveswhat is alien?02:53
prgA question about grub again:  So, if I have two options at boot, and I want the default to be the second I just set the value for 'default' to be 1..correct?02:53
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burnhamdwhat problems with nvidia02:53
BroamJesusSaves:  alien is a program that converts RPM to DEV02:53
Broamubotu, tell burnhamd about nvidia02:53
navaroneRemdul> When you next reboot take a note of what bios version you are using. It should be something like Award Bios oe Ami bios...and will give the version number. Try and find it and google for update. Usually can get at motherboard manfacturers website...check motherboard while case is open for name...If you find it the website should have instructions for upgrading02:54
mherwegalien is a converter e.g. from rpm to deb02:54
BroamRemdul: You will have more luck looking on Compaq's website.02:54
fworpok, maybe i should pose the question differently. I want to use my dialup modem to connect to the internet. I specified a random network interface as the default when asked by the setup utility. Is there some way to let ubuntu know that i dont want to use either? Using the wifi interface where there is no network for me to connect to seems to be screwing up my ability to sudo02:54
BroamRemdul:  And you will need a floppy disk02:54
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USCRyanburnhamd, i init 1 to get to runlevel 1 to install it, and it tells me i need the kernel source to compile the installation?02:54
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tritiumJesusSaves, tigthvnc is in the repos.  No need to install the .rpm02:54
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icerabbitok guys... thanks a lot for the help! I'll be sure to come back with results!02:54
Broamfworp:  Add a network monitor to one of your gnome panels02:54
RemdulBroam: I dont have a floppy drive02:54
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fworpBroam: how do i do that? does it require root privilages?02:55
tritiumUSCRyan, you should be using the ubuntu packages02:55
BroamRemdul: Hmmmm...I wonder how you flash bios on those things.  Maybe CD-Rom will work too02:55
Broamfworp:  right-click one of your panels in gnome (you are using gnome, right?)02:55
JesusSavestritium how do i start it?02:55
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Remdulnavarone: Thank you very much. I will try this02:55
fworpBroam: yeah02:55
tritiumJesusSaves, did you install it?02:55
USCRyantritium, how do i do that? i just downloaded the driver off the site, went to run level 1 and tried to run it02:55
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Broamfworp: select "add to panel..." and scroll down until you see Network Monitor02:55
JesusSavesi don't think so02:55
tritium!tell USCRyan about nvidia02:55
Broamfworp: it's under system and hardware02:55
JesusSaveswhere can i find it?02:55
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USCRyanthanks02:56
tritiumJesusSaves, apt-cache search tightvnc02:56
navaroneRemdul, it is easier than it seems...you need to copy updated bios to bootable floppy and possible have update tool copied over on floppy as well. I used Asus aflash.exe It does the actual flashing and may offer to save current bios to saem floppy in case anything goes pearshaped02:56
prgHi can someone answer a grub question?02:56
Toma-!info tightvnc02:56
Toma-*ubotu* Package 'tightvnc' does not exist. :(02:56
Remdulnavarone: will cds work?02:56
tritiumUSCRyan, tell Reggie Bush that pushing a Q.B. over the goal line is against the rules ;)02:56
Broamfworp: I know it seems dumb, but it's the only way I can think of02:56
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BroamToma:  There may be another VNC client he can use.  Search synaptic?02:56
navaroneRemdul...no idea...floppy is general media to use02:56
Toma-xvncviewer02:57
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Toma-is the best bet02:57
Remdulnavarone: I will just have to go buy a floppydrive then. Thanks a lot for your help!02:57
tritiumToma-, wrong package name02:57
navaronelol02:57
BroamRemdul: You *may* be able to boot off of CD if you know how to get one of those things to do El Torito02:57
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RemdulBroam: I have no clue how to.02:57
Toma-the best one is simple "vnc-common" tho02:57
tritiumJesusSaves, you want the server?02:57
tritium!info tightvncserver02:58
BroamRemdul:  Sometimes CD burning programs allow you to burn like a bootable floppy02:58
ubotutightvncserver: (virtual network computing server software), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2.9-6build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 610 kB, Installed size: 1364 kB02:58
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Toma-oh he needs a server?02:58
BroamStupid question time!02:58
JesusSavesyes i just want the server02:58
RemdulBroam: I'll look around, see what I cant do.02:58
JesusSavesok how do i run and install the server02:58
Toma-ahhh sorry02:58
navaroneBroam...maybe get all files and make image...then burn image to cd?02:58
JesusSavesi mean the viewer would be cool to check out02:58
Broamnavarone:  I'm thinking that.02:58
jgrievesBroam Do you know if Mouse is from applets?02:58
djk_what does "clearing orphaned inode" mean?02:58
JesusSavesbut really the server is better02:58
jgrievesBroam gnome-applets02:58
Broamjgrieves: No clue.  I'm the kind of idiot that can't figure out how to switch out gnome for xfce4 after I install the package02:58
tritiumJesusSaves, make sure you've enabled universe and updated, and then "sudo aptitude install tightvncserver"02:59
jgrievesBroam haha02:59
navaroneRemdul, are you using this computer as dual boot?02:59
Broamjgrieves: Possibly02:59
Toma-ahhhhh the viewer is "xtightvncviewer" ....what a silly package name02:59
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xiaogilwhy when i use firefox to see the page http://ndweb.iis.sinica.edu.tw/archaeo2_public/Include/GetImage_FileName.jsp?filename=R024974ccwa&type=3, i get a big image, and when i try to read it with wget, i get a small image ?02:59
Remdulnavarone: No, I only want ubuntu installed on it02:59
seife`wich program u guys recommend me to part my hard drive?02:59
JesusSaveshow do i run these programs?02:59
tritium!tell JesusSaves about repositories02:59
JesusSavesseife, fdisk02:59
Broamseife`:  Do you have any data on the disk you want to save?02:59
tritiumfollow that to enable universe02:59
seife`Broam, no i just installed ubuntu on the full disk, i mean its just one partition03:00
Broamxiaogil:  the page might be sending you a different image?03:00
seife`but i want to remove a part of this partition03:00
seife`and create another new one03:00
Broamseife`:  Aha.  And you want to make a second partition?  Hmm.03:00
seife`can i do that?03:00
xiaogilBroam: it's amazing, isn't it ?03:00
djk_tritium: what does 'clearing orphaned inode' mean?03:00
Broamseife`:  I believe so, don't quote me.  If nothing else, you could use gparted or something like that03:00
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Broamseife`;  WAit.  I'm an idiot. Yes, you can.03:00
navaroneseife> you can go thru install process...do the partitioning...ie. resize existing and then back out of install when changes to partitions are written?03:01
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xiaogilBroam: how to download the big image with a command line then ?03:01
tritiumdjk_, you're running fsck?03:01
Broamdjk:  Ever have a windows installation complain about lost chains that became CHK files?  Same thing03:01
seife`what can i do03:01
Toma-!vnc03:01
ubotuI guess vnc is http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html03:01
Broamxiaogil: Try giving it the same user agent string03:01
xiaogilBroam: what do you mean ?03:01
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seife`Broam, what can i do man03:01
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tritiumJesusSaves, does that give you enough info to get started?03:02
jgrieveshow do you make a symbolic link to a directory03:02
jgrievesln -?03:02
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Broamxiaogil: Every browswer sends information about what program it is to the website03:02
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xspadesln -s target shortcut03:02
Broamxiaogil: You need to send the same user agent string that firefox sends with wget03:02
jgrievesxspades doesn't work for directories/03:02
jgrieves?03:02
xspadesit does03:02
Broamseife`:  I would say short of anything else anyone tells you, you might be able to use the installer to repartition03:02
xspadesln -s /usr/bin ~/bin03:02
jgrievesxspades hmm03:03
Broamseife`:  But that's not exactly the most elegant solution03:03
xiaogilBroam: how to know this user agent ?03:03
djk_tritium: no, was during bootup..03:03
seife`give me another solution, i cant use a program?03:03
jgrievesxspades yeah brian fart03:03
jgrievesxspades had trailing /03:03
tritiumdjk_, did you not shutdown properly?03:03
Broamseife`:  yeah, you can.   Try gparted or fdisk03:03
djk_tritium: no, was forced to use the resetbutton :(03:03
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tritiumah, ok03:04
Broamseife`:  The problem is that it may be difficult to do so while you have the thing mounted03:04
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ryanpglater all03:04
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djk_tritium: for some unknown reason to me suddenly the load average went from 0.10 to over 1503:04
jgrievestritium thanks :)03:04
BroamStupid question time.03:05
seife`Broam, what u mean wt.03:05
tritiumdjk_, wow03:05
djk_tritium: absolutely nothing worked anymore03:05
Broamseife`:  You can't edit a disk you're using at the time.  That's why I said try the installer--you need to boot off of something else03:05
navaroneseife> try gparted...not sure if you need to use a boot cd or floppy though if you want to work on mounted partition03:05
BroamStupid question time: How do I get a breezy install to use XFCE4?  I'm fairly sure I have the package installed03:05
JesusSaveswow that system package manager is nice03:05
JesusSavesnow i can install g++03:05
JesusSavesfinally03:05
BroamJesusSaves: Ain't it?03:05
seife`how i part the disk with the installer? ;/03:05
navaroneBroam...at login click session and choose xfce03:06
xspadesBroam, select xfce on gdm login as the session03:06
tritiumJesusSaves, you're easiest solution is to install build-essential03:06
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tritiumBroam, you installed xubuntu-desktop already?03:06
Broamplease tell me it's not that stupid03:06
Broamplease tell me I have an IQ above 6003:06
xiaogilBroam: it seems that tcpdump could do the job but i don't understand how to use it...03:06
Broamxiaogil:  I know there's a way to specify it.  Try reading the man pages?03:06
JesusSavesbuild essential?03:07
JesusSaveswhat is that03:07
djk_Broam: well _if_ you have it installed, just select it in gdm/kdm next time03:07
BroamJesusSaves: That's essential for compiling stuff03:07
JesusSavesso it seems like that system program manager is real nice don't even need any rpms03:07
bimberi!info build-essential03:07
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xiaogilBroam: yes I'm trying, but I don't get it03:07
JesusSavesoh where can i get it?03:07
ubotubuild-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 11.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB03:07
Broamtritum:  yeah03:07
tritiumJesusSaves, sudo aptitude install build-essential03:07
BroamOkay, after that bout of stupidity, I need a soda03:07
JesusSavesare there server essentials too? like php, mysql, apache ?03:07
djk_tritium: so what is the inode message?03:08
BroamI remember having to hack certain files in SuSE to use XDM instead of GDM because I didn't have enough memory03:08
JesusSavesi'm running ubuntu using VMWARE, do you recommend keeping it that way for a webserver?03:08
nickrudJesusSaves, you can search for packages in the package manager by hitting control-f (try mysql, etc)03:08
tritiumJesusSaves, on the other hand, you may prefer to use the gui front end, synaptic (Sytem->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager)03:08
JesusSavesyeah but if there were just a list of servers it would be nice03:08
JesusSavesyes tritium i'm using it thanks03:08
JesusSavesi am not a console lover03:08
BroamJesusSaves: There is, it's in /etc/apt/sources.list03:08
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JesusSavesuhh ?03:08
JesusSavesi love GUIs03:09
JesusSaveswhat is a good editor to make GUI apps for linux?03:09
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tritiumdjk_, just an error with your filesystem since you shutdown abruptly03:09
BroamJesusSaves:  You will probably want the Glade interface designer03:09
JesusSaveskdevelop?03:09
Broamdjk_:  I wouldn't worry aobut that orphaned inode03:09
JesusSavesok got it, is it easy to port with windows?03:09
BroamJesusSaves:  (re: kdevelop) That's probably only useful if you're using KDE03:09
djk_Broam: i don't worry ;) i just want to know :)03:09
JesusSavesoh i'm using gnome03:10
JesusSavesi love ubuntu, it feels just like windows03:10
tritiumJesusSaves, there's anjuta for gnome03:10
JesusSavesonly its linux03:10
JesusSavesanjuta is good?03:10
djk_tritium: so basically it just told me that it fixed the error?03:10
BroamJesusSaves: I know GTK+ is portable to Windows; I don't know if glade designs GTK+ stuff.  I was going to do some linux coding but I decided I'd rather get good at using the system first03:10
JesusSavescross-platform ?03:10
tritiumdjk_, yes03:10
rhouseanjuta is pretty nice03:10
BroamHoly heck XFCE is fast03:10
JesusSavesyeah i am a Windows developer03:10
djk_tritium: good thanks, never had to use the resetbutton with linux before..03:10
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JesusSavesjust thought i'd try out ubuntu03:10
BroamAnd yes, I heart the mono03:10
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tritiumheh, hadn't seen it called C-hash before03:11
BroamJesusSaves: I love ubuntu.  It's great.  I can't do everything but I love finding out where things are and going "wow, that was so easy..."03:11
BroamI just read that today too, the C-hash thing03:11
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tritiumnot C-sharp?03:11
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BroamIt's really C-sharp (C#) but I like C-hash03:12
revhi03:12
Broamit summs up some of the more esoteric parts of the language nicely :)03:12
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johnblackhorsetritium: it is C-pound and don't you forget it!03:12
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BroamC-tic-tac-toe03:12
tritiumjohnblackhorse, ha, okay03:12
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tritiumAnd Pink Floyd sang "no dock sockasm in the clossroom" too03:12
revi have a fresh install of kubuntu. i can't get any root access03:12
JesusSavesahhhh nautulus just crashed03:13
dashinhoHello, I have a question. Shipit shipped me like one year a go Ubuntu 4.10, now I want to install it (1 year later)... After I install it can I update it to the 5.10 ?03:13
Broamrev:  You should be able to just do kdesu03:13
Broamand use your password for your user03:13
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crimsundashinho: yes, but you have to do a bit of tweaking on your own03:13
Broamdashinho: Yes.  You will need to change your /etc/apt/sources.list, plus some tweaking03:13
xspadesdashinho, update sources.list to breezy, apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade03:14
revsays kdesu is not a command03:14
dashinhoxspades, thats all?03:14
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revrev@box1:~$ su03:14
revPassword:03:14
revsu: Authentication failure03:14
revSorry.03:14
revrev@box1:~$03:14
JesusSavesok i installed a bunch of stuff using that system packager thing, now how do i run tightvnc server?03:14
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JesusSavesi don't see it on my applications list03:14
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BroamJesusSaves: apt-get install menu03:15
Broamrev:  try sudo su03:15
Broamyes, that works03:15
xspadesdashinho, pretty much, ubuntuguide.org has an entry for upgrading from warty/hoary to breezy03:15
linux_newbhow do i install kde03:15
johnblackhorseubotu: tell rev about sudo03:15
revsudo workd03:15
icerabbitNot sure if you still remember me Broam, it was only a few seconds ago, but when i use "apt-get install xserver-xorg-drive-ati" i get a return saying it cant find the package03:15
Broamubotu, tell linux_newb about kde03:15
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linux_newbty03:15
johnblackhorseBroam: please do not advise that, it is redundant. sudo -i  does the same thing03:15
Broamicerabbit: I'm not that forgetful...yet03:15
JesusSaves Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)03:15
JesusSavesE: Unable to lock the list directory03:15
Broamjohnblackhorse: really?  Hmm.03:16
dashinhoIs a better idea to download 5.10 iso's and burn it into a CD?03:16
bimberidashinho: yes, if that's feasible03:16
crimsundashinho: yes03:16
JesusSavestritium, u there?03:16
BroamNeat.03:16
JesusSavesi installed g++, but how do i get it to work... along with tightvnc server?03:16
dashinhowell, then i am going to do that on this night.03:16
JesusSavesat least i think I did03:16
tritiumyes, JesusSaves.  What's up?03:17
tritiumJesusSaves, do you have a c++ program you'd like to compile with g++?03:17
icerabbitis there anyway that i could download the fglrx driver through the console?03:17
BroamOh wow, that's so much better03:17
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tritiumicerabbit, yes.  sudo aptitude install xorg-driver-fglrx03:18
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GunbladeCan anyone help me with installing a Teamspeak sserver? I get as far as basically extracting it.... <_<;03:18
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crimsun(note that semantically ''sudo -s'' is closer to ''sudo su'')03:18
icerabbitthank you tritium03:18
Broamicerabbit:  You know how to switch between TTY's right?03:18
icerabbitNo... What is a TTY Broam?03:18
icerabbitor wait.. ill google it03:18
navaroneOkay...I am off...take care folks03:18
dashinhoAnother litle thing. I am planning on downloading kubuntu. If I dont like it, can I install gnome on it ?03:19
BroamWell, by default in ubuntu you have 6 text logins on a box03:19
crimsundashinho: yes03:19
BroamCtrl-Alt-F1 through F603:19
icerabbitooooh so i see03:19
BroamCtrl-Alt-F7 is your GUI03:19
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Ishotwebhello everyone03:19
BroamIt's so useful when something hangs your GUI to step out into a text login and kill it03:20
JesusSavestritium yep03:20
JesusSavesi guess i have to use full path03:20
tritiumicerabbit, you got linux-amd64-generic or -k8 installed (along with linux-restricted-modules)?03:20
dashinhok thank you guys!03:20
tritiumJesusSaves, ok, sounds like you're figuring it out03:20
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JesusSavestritium, what about the tightvnc viewer? like where does this stuff install to?03:20
icerabbitBroam: I'll keep that in mind when I get X to actually work03:20
icerabbittritium: yes i installed it03:20
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tritiumJesusSaves, "dpkg -L tightvncserver" will list all the files in the package03:20
tritiumicerabbit, good deal03:21
GunbladeCan anyone help me with installing a Teamspeak sserver? I get as far as basically extracting it....03:21
jgrievesdang it03:21
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jgrieveswhy can't i get mouse prefernces to pick up /usr/share/gnome/cursor-fonts/03:21
jesse_Can Someone Help Me With Getting Limewire on my computer03:21
Ishotwebcan someone help me out? i'm very new to Ubuntu, and linux in general, trying to compile Wine, it looks like gcc isn't in my path and i'm having trouble adding it03:21
tritiumIshotweb, any reason you're not using the wine binary packages?03:21
jgrievesIshotweb just apt-get i :)03:21
xiaogilBroam: I tried the command 'wget --user-agent=""  http://ndweb.iis.sinica.edu.tw/archaeo2_public/Include/GetImage_FileName.jsp?filename=R024974ccwa&type=3' to download the big jpeg file, but still it download the small one, could you help me to make this work ?03:22
jgrievesIshotweb sudo apt-get install wine03:22
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hammerabiBroam: 6 text logins in a box?03:22
IshotwebHmm i've been following a tutorial and i needed to modify a few files before i compiled Wine, that's why i didn't get the binary03:22
icerabbitok... I'll try aptitude and installing fglrx drivers then I'll brb03:22
icerabbitthanks again guys03:22
Broamhammerabi:  It's umm...I forget how this gets explained03:22
jHey.  I'm trying to run Ubuntu, but I can't get the live cd to boot up (on either on my computers).  Are there any steps I have to do to the iso before I can use it?  I've changed the bios settings to boot from cd first03:23
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jesse_Does AnyOne Know How To Put Limewire On Ubuntu?03:23
badmacktuckis firefox 1.5 in the repo yet? if so whats the package called?03:23
JesusSavesPassword:03:23
JesusSavesVerify:03:23
JesusSavesCouldn't start Xtightvnc; trying default font path.03:23
JesusSavesPlease set correct fontPath in the tightvncserver script.03:23
JesusSavesCouldn't start Xtightvnc process.03:23
jgrievesbadmacktuck no03:23
Broamhammerabi:  Dates back to the days when there were multiple serial consoles--people would use these 'dumb terminals' to log into a machine over serial03:23
Dood_Sethdoes ubuntu run on RS/6000 (ppc) ?03:23
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JesusSaveswhats up?03:23
badmacktuckjgrieves, bugger. thanks03:23
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Broamxiaogil: try setting the useragent equal to:03:23
jgrievesbadmacktuck you can downlaod tarball03:23
hammerabiBroam: oh, you mean six vts, right03:23
jgrievesbadmacktuck off of mozilla site03:23
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hammerabihammerabi: though you were talking about user accounts or such03:24
whatthedeuceanyone know what the problem could be with the live cd?03:24
Gunbladesrs can no one help me out with installing TS server?03:24
badmacktuckjgrieves, is that a lot of work to install that way?03:24
JesusSavesFatal server error:03:24
JesusSavescould not open default font 'fixed'03:24
jgrievesbadmacktuck nope there is a wiki entry about it03:24
Broamxiaogil: "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8) Gecko/20051202 Ubuntu/1.4.99+1.5rc3.dfsg-1ubuntu4 Firefox/1.5"03:24
Broamthat's my useragent string03:24
hammerabiGunblade: "srs" is not a word; if no one here can help you, though, perhaps try the forums or the mailing list03:24
jgrieves!tell badmacktuck about firefox03:24
jgrieves?03:24
hammerabiGunblade: I'd be rather shocked if you couldn't find any sort of howto in the interweb, though.03:24
Ishotwebi use PATH=$PATH:/usr/lib/gcc to add that directory to the path, correct?03:24
Broamhammerabi: Yeah, that03:24
Dood_SethJesusSaves:  can I holla atcha fa a minnit ?03:24
jesse_no one can help me?03:24
JesusSavesDood_Seth, ?03:25
jgrievesbadmacktuck sorry, check out wiki, really easy03:25
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Gunbladethere is from Teamspeak but the commands are not working once you extract the folder03:25
xiaogilBroam: no, it still downloads the small file03:25
Dood_SethJesusSaves: may I speaketh with thee for a moment03:25
hammerabijesse_: no, no one can help you03:25
BroamDood_Seth: I'm not sure.  Debian probably does, as does NetBSD.  Unsure about ubuntu03:25
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johnsie2khi is there any way t chnage the screen hz on breezy?03:25
badmacktuckhaha, okay thanks jgrieves03:25
Broamxiaogil: Hmm.  Visit this web site03:25
hammerabijesse_: however, if you'd used google to begin with, you'd be done by now03:25
jesse_o ok thankyou03:25
starscallingeh03:25
Broamwith your firefox03:25
whatthedeucecan anyone help me?  I'd like to be able to run Ubuntu before christmas03:25
starscallinghow can i redit grub?03:25
jesse_what do i type in google03:25
whatthedeuce(I'm getting a new computer, which I want to run Ubuntu on)03:25
Broamxiaogil: http://www.cambiaresearch.com/cambia3/myuseragent/03:25
johnsie2kAlso, anyone here know anything about laptop lcds?03:26
Broamwhatthedeuce: You have my attention03:26
starscallingeh let me be more specific03:26
starscallingi had windows then ubuntu then grub worked good..03:26
starscallingthen windows took a crap.. so i had to reinstall it03:26
bimberiIshotweb: the binary is much easier to work with - for more recent versions just add "deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/03:26
bimberi" to your sources.list then update and install03:26
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hammerabijohnsie2k: it's a lot simpler if you just ask your question straight away03:26
starscallingso now the grub is gone./.03:26
Broamstarscalling: windows installs overwrite grub03:26
starscallingi have a gentoo live cd03:26
starscallingcan i do grub from that>?03:27
Ishotwebbimberi: i can't use the binary because i needed to edit one of the DLL files in the source to do what i need to do.. so i need to edit and recompile03:27
starscallingi dont have the ubuntu live cd atm03:27
Broamstarscalling:  You may have better luck, instead of using grub, having your windows install have a menu entry to boot linux03:27
johnsie2kok lol... I chnaged my laptop lcd and now its a little shakey but almost readable... anyone know the cause?03:27
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JesusSavesDoonz, ?03:27
JesusSavesthat guy left03:27
hammerabijohnsie2k: changed?03:27
Broamstarscalling:  other option is to use lilo to boot off another partition and tell your BIOS to boot off of that instead03:27
hammerabijohnsie2k: you physically removed the lcd from your laptop?03:27
johnsie2kyeah03:27
xspadesjohnsie2k, tryed reconfiguing xorg?03:27
JesusSavestritium, thanks for your help.. do you happen to know why the server won't start up?03:27
bimberiIshotweb: ah, ok, have you installed build-essential? (includes gcc plus some other useful things)03:28
hammerabiuh03:28
whatthedeuceMy computers (I've tried it on two) can't boot from the Linux live cd.  Is there anything I have to do to the iso before burning it?  I've changed my bios settings, but it still won't boot from the cd03:28
starscallingBroam how do i get it to lilo03:28
dwhsixSCMark: any luck with other resolutions?03:28
starscallingi can tell bios to boot off different partition./... or different hdd anyway03:28
doogluswhatthedeuce: try the hoary cd instead of breezy.  that works for me.03:28
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hammerabiwhatthedeuce: does it boot other cds?03:28
johnsie2khow dod you do that? I dont think its a linux problem cos the hp logo is shakey on bootup too03:28
Broamstarscalling: You may have some luck using the install CD.  I'm not real familiar with that stuff, sorry...03:28
starscallingeh thanx03:28
Broamjohnsie2k: You might have a loose connection03:28
dwhsixI did the dpkg-reconfigure (from single-user mode), did h\get 1600 by something, but my LCD doesn't like it... so sticking with 1280x1024 for now.03:28
hammerabijohnsie2k: that sounds like it's physically damaged; e.g. loose connection, bent board03:28
doogluswhatthedeuce: you should burn the .iso file as an image, not as a file, of course.  if you list the contents of the CD using windows you should see a bunch of files, not just one .iso file03:28
Broamstarscalling: Sorry I'm not real familiar with that stuff.  It has been done a lot, so you should be able to find howtos on the internets03:29
dwhsixmessed with fonts and other theme stuff to get more usable screen real estate03:29
Ishotwebbimberi: ah... that may be it... one second i'll install it. for some reason i thought i had already done that03:29
tritiumJesusSaves, you're sure it did not?03:29
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whatthedeuceI'll try the install cd.  There isn't anything blatent I have to do to the iso before burning it?  I've had problems installing other Linux distros (I'm running Debian right now)03:29
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doogluswhatthedeuce: did you list the CD contents in windows or debian?03:29
johnsie2kWell... the replacement screen wasnt the exact sane number so I'm surprised it's working at all lol03:29
sergioHi, I have a proble with Rhythmbox 0.9.0, when I play a song, it doesn't display the name, the correct long, the album, it only says unknown and whe you see the time the song is it's only a few seconds, how i can fix it?03:29
hammerabiwhatthedeuce: no, just configure your bios to boot the cd, and burn it correctly03:29
xiaogilBroam: i tried with my user-agent (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; zh-CN; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051010 Firefox/1.0.7 (Ubuntu package 1.0.7)), but the result is the same, it doesn't work, the problem looks to come from somewhere else03:29
Mr_Milenkotheodora?03:30
JesusSavesi dunno let me check03:30
whatthedeucelist the CD contents?03:30
xspadesjohnsie2k, reconfigure xorg, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:30
Broamxiaogil: I'm out of ideas, sorry. :(03:30
transgressokay my friend's computer won't reboot ... it just immediately drops him to a shell after it goes to sync his clock with ntpd03:30
hammerabisergio: useful details would include what file format it is, and whether it affects all formats or just one03:30
JesusSaveshow do i find my IP address03:30
hammerabitransgress: something ate his/her disk03:30
zoexiihey, I need some help compiling 'gens'... I can't even get so far as running ./configure   It returns "error: cannot run /bin/sh ./config.sub03:30
BroamAnyone know how I'd change a computer's hostname quickly?03:30
doogluswhatthedeuce: like put the CD in while running windows or debian and do a "dir" or "ls" to see what's on it.  if you see "<something>.iso" then you burnt it wrong.03:30
Ishotwebbimberi: thanks for the help... that did it03:30
johnsie2kif i changed the board do you think that would help?03:30
djk_JesusSaves: ifconfig03:30
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zoexiiwhat is causing this.03:30
hammerabiJesusSaves: "ip a", or do you mean "how do I find the IP address that the internet sees me using?"?03:30
bimberiJesusSaves: ifconfig (look for inet addr)03:30
bimberiIshotweb: np :)03:30
xiaogilBroam: is there another command than wget that could be more efficient ?03:30
hammerabiBroam: edit /etc/hostname, /etc/hosts, /etc/postfix/* reboot03:31
Mr_Milenkowww.whatismyip.com03:31
Broamxiaogil: I'm not really sure...03:31
dooglusxiaogil: netcat is lower level.  what do you mean by efficient?03:31
transgresshammerabi: huh?03:31
whatthedeuceI do see something.iso.  How do I burn it properly?03:31
hammerabitransgress: huh?03:31
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xiaogildooglus: i mean a command that downloads the same web page as firefox do03:32
doogluswhatthedeuce: can you run nautilus in debian?03:32
hammerabitransgress: you gave no details about what it actually said, so I would guess the boot process failed due to the filesystem being broken03:32
djk_whatthedeuce: with k3b for example..03:32
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dooglusxiaogil: firefox can do that03:32
hammerabidooglus: yes03:32
Broamhammerabi: If I don't have a postfix directory, I don't need to touch it, I take? :)03:32
translocatedfetuhowdy, is there a fast (not involving vanilla kernel sources) way to keep modules I don't need from starting up (rmmod -f has had some unstable consequences).03:32
hammerabiBroam: yes03:32
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sergioHi, I have a proble with Rhythmbox 0.9.0, when I play a song in MP3 format, it doesn't display the name, the correct long, the album, it only says unknown and whe you see the time the song is it's only a few seconds, how i can fix it?03:32
xiaogildooglus: can i use firefox as a command line ?03:32
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dooglushammerabi: so right-click on the .iso file in nautilus and select 'burn image' or some such03:32
hammerabitranslocatedfetu: what modules?03:32
Techie_dudehow do i unzip tar.bz2 files?03:32
tritiumtranslocatedfetu, blacklist them03:32
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translocatedfetuparport03:32
hammerabidooglus: yup03:32
dooglusxiaogil: you can run firefox from the command line, yes.03:32
iSlermukkahello guys03:32
transgresshammerabi: it isn't giving any error whatsoever...03:32
BroamTechie_dude:  file roller should be able to handle it03:33
translocatedfetutritium, thanks i will look that up03:33
dooglusxiaogil: what don't you like about wget?03:33
iSlermukkaim wondering if i should change my OS to linux03:33
hammerabitranslocatedfetu: is it hotplug loading them? if so, what tritium said (ie edit /etc/hotplug/blacklist)03:33
Techie_dudewhat is fileroller?03:33
djk_Techie_dude: tar -xjf03:33
iSlermukkabut..03:33
hammerabiiSlermukka: no03:33
dooglusTechie_dude: it's like winzip03:33
whatthedeucesorry, but I missed that.  How could I burn the iso image properly with windows (my Linux computer has no burner)03:33
iSlermukkawhy not?03:33
iSlermukka:D03:33
BroamTechie_dude: It's a GUI archiver utility like Winzip or something.03:33
hammerabiTechie_dude: a crappy "archive manager" for gnome, ala winzip03:33
hammerabiwhatthedeuce: that depends entirely on what windows software you are using03:33
BroamTechie_dude: tar -xjf will also work.03:33
hammerabiiSlermukka: if you have to ask, you're only going to be disappointed03:33
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iSlermukkahammerabi03:33
Techie_dudei'll go with broam.....03:33
doogluswhatthedeuce: you can do it using some versions of nero, but it depends what version03:33
hammerabiiSlermukka: you might like to try it, tho, and see if you'd be happy running it along with whatecver else you use03:34
transgressusually if it's something needing to be blacklisted it hangs... this is just dropping him to a shell03:34
dooglusBroam: the 'j' option to "tar xf" is never needed03:34
iSlermukkai will try it. but i just want to know if it's good for the things i do03:34
hammerabitransgress: it prints nothing at all?03:34
Broamdooglus: I'm simply parroting hammerabi (no dead parroting sketch jokes please)03:34
johnsie2kwhen i reconfigure xorg do i need to reboot?03:34
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hammerabidooglus: tar automatically uses -j if it's a .tar.bz2?03:34
hammerabijohnsie2k: no03:34
transgresshammerabi: it is printed the shit it's loading... once it gets to ntpd it drops him to a shell... not like a login... just a shell.03:34
whatthedeucewould I be able to do it with the newest version of nero?03:35
djk_whatthedeuce: yes03:35
dooglusBroam: "tar xf" will unpack an archive whether it's uncompressed, compressed, gzipped or bzip2ed03:35
hammerabijohnsie2k: not in general, anyway.  if you're using binary-only modules, it may or may not work03:35
hammerabibut that's nvidia/ati's problem03:35
xiaogildooglus: my problem is that when i wget a web page (http://ndweb.iis.sinica.edu.tw/archaeo2_public/Include/GetImage_FileName.jsp?filename=R024974ccwa&type=3), i get a small jpeg image, and when i download the same page using firefox, i get a the same image in a bigger resolution. I'd like to be able to download that image with a command line, but there's no way to do it with wget.03:35
Broamhammerabi: apparently not. :)03:35
dooglushammerabi: it doesn't look at the filename, it looks at the file03:35
iSlermukkai want to know if ubuntu is good for irc, msn messenger, playing music, watching videos, playing few games.03:35
hammerabidooglus: oh, neat03:35
Broamdooglus: with the 'file' utility?  Good old file magic!03:35
johnsie2kwhat is the purpose of an inverter board?03:35
Techie_dudebzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file.03:35
hammerabitransgress: it prints no error at all?  the last line is "starting ntp...[done] ", then a shell?03:35
zoexiiiSlermukka, mostly... yes.03:35
iSlermukkaoh and of course ware03:35
BroamTechie_dude: You need to give it a file to uncompress03:35
whatthedeucethanks.  Sorry for the stupid questions, but I'm still pretty bad with Linux03:35
hammerabiiSlermukka: depends what games03:35
Techie_dudei did03:35
iSlermukkawow + CS03:35
dooglusBroam: it doesn't use the 'file' utility, but it uses the same technology - it just looks at the first few bytes to check how/if it's compressed03:36
BroamTechie_dude:  Then it's not really a bz2 file...hmm.03:36
Broamdooglus:  Good enough.03:36
transgresshammerabi: actually i'm not sure it says done on ntp ... let me look... but yeah it just drops to a shell after that03:36
Techie_dudewine-0.9.2.tar.bz2.gz.....that is the file name03:36
BroamHahah, .bz2.gz03:36
hammerabitransgress: bear in mind that no one else can see the screen, so you have be extremely specific about exactly what happens03:36
Broamthat's a new one on me03:36
dooglus.bz2.gz?  that's one messed up file type :)03:36
hammerabiBroam: it's like avi.rar!03:36
BroamTechie_dude: is there as reason you didn't use synaptic to get the wine binary?03:36
dooglusTechie_dude: try "gunzip <file>" on it03:36
_native_ive seup a installation with the server option for a clean light install i have fluxbox up and running now i have no accel : Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".03:36
whatthedeuceare there any free programs I could use to burn it?  Nero doesn't have a free trial, and I can't afford $70 right now03:37
iSlermukkahammerabi03:37
BroamDid someone have problems with a laptop not wanting to shut down earlier?  Mine's doing the same thing03:37
tritiumwhatthedeuce, nautilus, k3b, graveman, gnomebaker03:37
iSlermukkacan i run wow + CS on ubuntu?03:37
bob832if i wanted to install a program, would i use the .deb version or the rpm version?03:37
doogluswhatthedeuce: nautilus is free03:37
djk_iSlermukka: with wine /cedega probably yes.03:37
BroamiSlermukka: You will need Wine or Cedega or something, but yes you can run most windows programs on Ubuntu03:37
Techie_dudegunzip didn't work.03:37
iSlermukkaok03:37
dooglusTechie_dude: how?03:37
BroamTechie_dude: Where did you get that file?03:37
iSlermukkadudes thgx03:37
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_native_i have it seems all the dri stuff and opengl stuff i need but...03:37
Techie_dudeoff of surge force03:37
BroamiSlermukka: No worries.03:37
djk_bob832: the deb03:37
iSlermukkaok03:38
iSlermukkanice03:38
dooglusTechie_dude: what does "file <file>" tell you?  (where you replace <file> with the filename)03:38
iSlermukkaill install ubuntu tomorrow03:38
bob832djk_: thanks03:38
djk_bob832: but rather use the repos if you have to ask ;)03:38
iSlermukkai hate windows so much03:38
Broamtritium: WOW = World of Warcraft.  A Blizzard game, obviously03:38
hammerabitritium: world of warcraft, I think03:38
hammerabisome sort of everquest clone03:38
Techie_dudewine-0.9.2.tar.bz2.gz: ERROR: cannot open `wine-0.9.2.tar.bz2.gz' (No such file or directory)03:38
dooglusTechie_dude: so what's the file really called?03:38
BroamiSlermukka: Do you have a second machine, or are you doing to blow your current windows install away?  If it's the second, i recommend you back stuff up first03:38
bob832:)03:38
dooglusTechie_dude: perhaps you need to 'cd' to the right place first?03:38
Techie_dudei dunno all i know is its wine....03:38
tritiumBroam, well, I wouldn't say "obviously".  I don't know games...03:38
Broamwine-0.9.2.tar.bz2.gz.rar.arj.arc.lha!03:39
dooglus.uue.md503:39
Techie_dudewhat is that03:39
Broamtritium: I stand corrected, sorry03:39
djk_Broam: you forget zip and ace :p03:39
iSlermukkaBroam: ill put all my important stuff to my other harddrive03:39
whatthedeucedoes nautilus work with Windows?  I can't burn on my Linux computer03:39
BroamTechie_dude: We find it odd that it would be compressed two different ways, is all03:39
JesusSavesquestion, does anyone know how to get my local IP address? and how can I add an alias for g++ to auto-run g++-4.003:39
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FalstiusJesusSaves: /sbin/ifconfig03:39
dooglusJesusSaves: "ifconfig" will tell you your local IPs03:39
crimsunJesusSaves: by default g++ _is_ g++-4.003:39
iSlermukkabroam i also have another comp, i could try it there03:39
hammerabiJesusSaves: do not mess with g++, at all03:39
Techie_dudethen how do i unzip it?03:39
BroamiSlermukka: I'd recommend that03:39
zoexiiwhattheduce, there are plenty of shareware apps for burning iso in windows,03:39
BroamTechie_dude: That's a *very* good question.03:40
Razor-Xdoes Open Office 1 support XIM?03:40
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zoexiiwhatthedeuce, do a search at versiontracker and you will find simething03:40
BroamTechie_dude: try the command:  file <filename>03:40
hammerabiJesusSaves: "ip a" will show you your local ip addres, as will ifconfig03:40
Broamand tell me what it spits out03:40
dooglusTechie_dude: try "cd Desktop" before the "file <file>" command03:40
iSlermukkaok thx dudes03:40
iSlermukkaill get some sleep now03:40
dooglusTechie_dude: or cd to wherever you saved it to03:40
iSlermukkaits 4.40 here03:40
iSlermukkac ya03:40
BroamRazor-X:  Refresh me on what XIM is again03:40
Razor-XBroam: X Input Methods03:40
alekzanyone has working the aMSN version that supports webcam ?03:40
Techie_dudeokay if i get wine from the synaptic what all do i need.......i already cded it!03:41
hammerabialekz: doesn't gaim support that?03:41
Razor-XBroam: so that I'll be able to get kinput2 to work, basically03:41
BroamRazor-X:  you mean like IME's and stuff? I *believe* so but the only accessibility tool I've been using lately is dasher, and that's busted in dapper03:41
alekzhammerabi, nope03:41
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hammerabieven gaim-vv?03:41
dooglusTechie_dude: after the 'cd' command, do "ls -l wine*" - what's that show?03:41
Razor-XBroam: I see03:41
JesusSavesomg this is so sweet03:41
bimberiIshotweb: add "deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ breezy/" to your sources.list03:41
JesusSavesi am connected to the VNC server03:41
JesusSaveshardcore03:41
bimberiTechie_dude: add "deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ breezy/" to your sources.list03:41
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bimberisry Ishotweb :)03:41
Techie_dudels: wine: No such file or directory03:41
JesusSavesthanks guys03:42
dooglusTechie_dude: I said "ls -l wine*"03:42
JesusSavesyou are sweeeeeeeeet03:42
JesusSaveshelped me a lot03:42
BroamJesusSaves:  You are the welcome.03:42
JesusSavesone more question (how can i auto-start this tightvncserver on startup?)03:42
JesusSaveslike a normal server?03:42
BroamJesusSaves:  Look into rc.d03:42
Techie_dude-rw-r--r--  1 jared jared 10301088 2005-12-05 20:28 wine-0.9.2.tar.bz203:42
BroamI think that's the startup script (I'm starting to get fuzzy on the details)03:42
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tritiumBroam, you mean update-rc.d?03:42
Ishotwebwow this wine compile is taking a long time03:42
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dooglusTechie_dude: so "tar xf wine*" will extract it03:42
hammerabiif tightvncserver can usefully run as a daemon without configuration, it will run already03:43
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BroamIshotweb: Yeah, compiles do that.03:43
tritiumJesusSaves, is there no init script in /etc/init.d for it?03:43
Techie_dudetar: wine: Cannot open: No such file or directory03:43
Techie_dudetar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now03:43
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bimberiJesusSaves: did you sort out the font issue?03:43
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dooglusTechie_dude: re-read my command.  try copy-paste perhaps03:43
Ishotwebheh yeah03:43
JesusSavesoh crud another question, i compiled with g++ blah.cpp and it gives me a.out , but when i run a.out it ives me a wacko error: bash: a.out: command not found03:43
dooglusTechie_dude: do you suffer from asterisk-blindness?03:43
Techie_dudeoh...sorry03:43
BroamJesusSaves: try ./a.out03:43
tritiumJesusSaves, ./a.out03:44
JesusSavesbimberi ? umm no03:44
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Broambwhahha03:44
JesusSaveshow do i get it to work b03:44
sanjurohello world ???03:44
dooglusJesusSaves: add "." to your path, or use a path to it, like /home/user/a.out or ./a.out03:44
BroamThe world says hello.03:44
Broam~a.out03:44
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sanjurohey this is my first irc connection (thanks ubuntu :)03:44
bimberiJesusSaves: no i don't know, i had similar issues and ended up switching to FreeNX03:44
Broamwb icerabbit03:44
dooglusBroam: ~/a.out perhaps.  not ~a.out03:44
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icerabbitthanks broam03:44
JesusSavesyou guys how to use that remote desktop?03:44
BroamYou get anywhere?03:44
JesusSavescan i just use windows RDC?03:45
JesusSavesto connect to it?03:45
tritiumJesusSaves, another quick tip:  packages store their documentation in /usr/share/doc/<packagename>03:45
icerabbiti just have one problem standing between me and a fully operational X03:45
BroamJesusSaves: The remote desktop is windows RDP yeah.  I think you have the client installed by default03:45
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Broamicerabbit: Lemme guess...screen resolution?03:45
JesusSavesyeah might as well use that right?03:45
JesusSavesrarther than vnc?03:45
BroamJesusSaves:  'rdesktop' is the command.  I do not believe there is a server for *nix03:45
sanjurohey broam ?03:45
tritiumJesusSaves, have you checked out System->Preferences->Remove Desktop ?03:45
icerabbitnope.. its libdri.a03:45
BroamRemote, not remove03:45
icerabbitI need to downgrade it apparently03:45
JesusSavestritium, yeah but now i just gotta test it out by connecting to it03:46
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tritiumright, my mistake ;)03:46
_native_little help?03:46
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Broam_native_: go ahead03:46
xiaogildooglus: don't you have a solution for my problem ?03:46
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dooglusxiaogil: I can't remember what your problem was.03:46
Broamdooglus:  wget and user agent03:46
dooglusBroam: go on?03:47
icerabbiton the forum it says for me to download a file (the old libdri.a) how would i do this through the console?03:47
dooglusicerabbit: wget <url>03:47
tritiumicerabbit, what on earth are you doing?03:47
starscallingsup everyone03:47
Broamdooglus:  something about weird behavior when he uses firefox to connect to this URL vs. Wget. He gets a thumbnail with wget03:47
icerabbitlol... what the forum tells me to!03:47
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tritiumsounds like a messy way to break your system03:48
JesusSavesyeah wouldn't let me do it in windows03:48
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JesusSaveslooks like i can just use tightvnc03:48
Broamicerabbit: do you also do what your breakfast cereal tells you to do. :P J/K03:48
icerabbitarg..03:48
JesusSavesgood enough03:48
dooglusxiaogil: you want to specific a user-agent when using wget?  that's done with the --user-agent flag...03:48
dooglusxiaogil: there's a man page for wget03:48
sonarehows it going :)03:48
_native_i have mass time with ubuntu and hardware accel has always worked out the box but this time i have taken a different route of using fluxbox with the server install option xorg.conf looks just right i posted the error to the pastebin03:48
JesusSavesok guys gonna log off03:48
icerabbit.. well if my breakfast cereal gave me linux advice.. i probably would... lol03:48
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JesusSavesGod bless you all I pray Jesus will heal you from your sickness and lead you to eternal life03:48
tritiumicerabbit, in that case, please bring me a beer, and do anything else I tell you ;)03:49
BroamHAHAHA03:49
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xiaogildooglus: i tried it already with the following command that changed nothing: wget --user-agent="Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; zh-CN; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051010 Firefox/1.0.7 (Ubuntu package 1.0.7)"  http://ndweb.iis.sinica.edu.tw/archaeo2_public/Include/GetImage_FileName.jsp?filename=R024974ccwa&type=303:49
sonaremy cheerios tell me ooooooooooooooooooooooo03:49
icerabbitlol...03:49
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Broamicerabbit: Why does it say to downgrade to that libdri.a?03:49
sonarewhat can this mean?03:49
Falstiuscan Jesus fix my wine problems?03:49
BroamNo, water isn't in Breezy03:49
johnsie2kcan Jesus fix my lcd?03:49
Techie_dudegah...the fonfiguring of wine is taking foever03:49
ciushello all03:49
ciusbooo wine03:49
cius:-)03:49
pepsihrm03:49
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icerabbithmmm...03:50
BroamIf it gives you the whole 'just do it' that's not a real good forum post03:50
zoexiidoes anyone here have experience making dgen work?  my ~/.dgen/dgenrc file is empty, and as I understand it, there should be keybindings and whatnot.  I can execute a rom, but have no way to play it.03:50
tritiumicerabbit, pour some lucky charms out on the table, and type what is spelled out on the console...03:50
_native_i installed fglrx and that didnt do shi*  ?03:50
BroamI don't know how to type the red balloon in unicode, tritum03:50
icerabbitwould it be dangerous to "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and edit some stuff in there?03:50
Broamicerabbit:  not if you back it up first03:51
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tritium_native_, did you follow the wiki?03:51
dooglusxiaogil: I can't resolve that address03:51
Broam_native_: icerabbit's in the same boat as you03:51
sonareannnnnyway.. how do i get the mp3 decoder going on a fresh, full install?03:51
kuraiahi all!03:51
Techie_dudei'm a noob give me a break....this is the first time i ever used linux.....by the way if you add the repository that the winehq website tells you to....DON'T APT-GET CAMSERV.....it will not let you log in after that it will freeze up at the end of the install and yo reboot and it freezes at username03:51
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kuraiai have a question03:51
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BroamHello kuraia03:51
kuraiacan anybody help me03:51
kuraia?03:51
Techie_dudemake[1] : *** [install]  Error 103:51
Techie_dudemake[1] : Leaving directory `/home/jared/Desktop/wine-0.9.2/include'03:51
Techie_dudemake: *** [include/__install__]  Error 203:51
tritiumTechie_dude, please don't paste03:51
sonaretotem says i need to install the plugin apparently03:51
Techie_dudei don't know how to use that other thing03:51
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doogluskuraia: not unless you give us a little more to go on03:52
Techie_dudedoes anyone have any idea what that means03:52
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tritiumTechie_dude, please learn how to use pastebin03:52
Broamsonare:  the mp3 decoder codec is patented, I believe there's some breezy-extras repository you can find03:52
xiaogildooglus: sometimes it works bad, but usually it works fine03:52
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_native_tritum; i have never had to . the only difference is that i did the server option and am using fluxbox besides that all the required packages seem to be present.03:52
kuraiaBroam, hi want to emulate windows xp in ubuntu with qemu,03:52
Broamubotu, tell broam about pastebin03:52
Techie_dudewhere do i get paste bin03:52
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kuraiadooglus,  hi want to emulate windows xp in ubuntu with qemu,03:52
tritiumTechie_dude, see the topic03:52
Broamheh.03:52
Techie_dude...Broam any idea what that error meant03:52
kuraiahave anybody used qemu?03:52
doogluskuraia: what do you want from us?  you want us to talk you out of your windows habit?03:52
BroamTechie_dude: the compile failed.  Unsure why.03:52
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sonarei simply cannot find anything mp3 or mpeg related in SPM that isnt already installed :{03:53
alekzanyone has working aMSN 0.95b ?03:53
zoexiikuraia, yes03:53
Broamdooglus: Apparently she's having problems with qemu03:53
_native_is fglrx installed by default?03:53
sonarecan anyone assist me?03:53
sdffffffffffffffhow to extract tar files03:53
tritiumno, _native_03:53
icerabbitno native03:53
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dooglussdffffffffffffff: "tar xf <tarfile>"03:53
Broamsonare: beep media player or xmms has mp3 decoding capabilities (I think they have liscences)03:53
_native_tritium, ok ive never had to use it03:53
sonareor is it best to post upon the forums?03:53
kuraiazoexii, have you emulated windows 2000 on linux?03:53
icerabbityou have to do "aptitude install xorg-driver-fglrx"03:53
Broamflgrx is a binary only driver from ATI and is restricted copyright, so it's not in default install03:53
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_native_tritium, my card is supported by the default ati driver03:54
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tritium_native_, you don't _have_ to, but you can03:54
matt247234hi, does anyone know what could be wrong with my xorg.conf or some other limitation that does not let me set refresh to anything other than 60Hz (conf at http://pastebin.ca/32604)03:54
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zoexiikuraia, I installed XP on qemu... it was to slow to use.  I tried to compile with the kqemu module and got nowhere,03:54
tritiummatt247234, check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log03:54
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zoexiikuraia, that's all the experience I've had with it.03:54
kuraiaok zoexii03:54
Techie_dudeHow do i use paste bin03:54
sonaredamn! i just realised my mirc script was hiding nearly all text03:54
kuraiazoexii, i have used vmware03:55
Broammatt247234: How good is the ben-q monitor?03:55
_native_tritium, so whats the deal my xorg.conf is exactly the same as my working config from installation on another disk.03:55
logical_markHey guys, what do I do if I cannot get a CD-RW drive to eject - and yes i have right clicked on it and hit "eject"03:55
Broamsonare: Try beep media player or XMMS03:55
matt247234just got it, so far so good though03:55
ToothpickGreets03:55
tritium_native_, what errors are you getting?03:55
Broamlogical_mark: make sure nothing's trying to use the disc03:55
ciusHas anyone had  problem where you xorg.conf has resolutions up to 1280x1024 setup in it, but the screen resolution chooser in gnome won't let you go past 1024x768?03:55
sonarethanks broam. is beep one of those all-in-codec programs?03:55
dooglusTechie_dude: v----03:55
dooglus!paste03:55
uboturumour has it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text03:55
Techie_dudev------?03:55
Broamsonare:  Something like that.  XMMS was blowing up for me03:55
_native_just Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"03:56
dooglusTechie_dude: sorry.  poor attempt at a down-arrow.03:56
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tritium_native_, if you don't want fglrx, just use "ati" as your driver03:56
_native_tritium, ive installed all the dri packages except the dev ones03:56
Falstiuseveryone knows down arrow is j ;)03:56
_native_tritium, i have03:56
Techie_dude...still don't get it03:56
_native_tritium, its installed03:56
logical_markBoam, there is not even a CD in the drive...03:56
dooglusFalstius: I thought it was \C-n03:57
tritium_native_, not sure, then03:57
Broamlogical_mark: So there's no CD in the drive but you can't get the drive door to open?03:57
sonareone more thing, i couldnt find any package lists for breezy.03:57
Broameveryone knows down arrow is ~[[B03:57
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matt247234tritium: my xorg log is here: http://pastebin.ca/3260803:57
Trashcananyone know why i might be getting 'Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic as user root: Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.' ?03:57
doogluslogical_mark: last resort: open up a paperclip and poke it into the little hole in the CD drive's door03:57
_native_damn it i used to be a Xorg master then i changed my field of study. :[03:57
xiaogildooglus: it should work if you try again now03:58
logical_markBroam: The light on the CD Drive just stays on like it is thinking about opening...03:58
tritium_native_, probably a good choice.  majoring in X.org is probably too narrow a focus03:58
logical_markdooglus: I doubt that is a long term solution.03:58
ciusI've been wondering exactly what sort of advantage moving ot a modular xorg would have...03:58
Broammatt247234: RADEON: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found <-- this scares me03:58
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revwhere do i find the grub conf file03:59
Trashcani have one of those too03:59
Trashcan:p03:59
matt247234broam: it shows up as two devices03:59
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dooglusxiaogil: I used wget without specifying a user agent and it got my a 178Kb image file03:59
Trashcanis that a bad message?03:59
matt247234pci:1:0:0 and 1:0:103:59
Broammatt247234: That might be because it does dual-mon or something?03:59
_native_ill have it working in a minute im just lazy and want the answer now! ;-] 03:59
sonareare there any package lists for breezy, online?03:59
Broamsonare:  packages.ubuntu.com/03:59
LeeJunFananyone know of anyone working on a tiny ubuntu embedded? I'm looking to use ubuntu on outdoor wireless routers on a 128M Flash card.03:59
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doogluslogical_mark: no, not really.  long term, you should stop using the mount point - close all programs that are using the CD - then "sudo eject"03:59
Broammatt247234: looks like your monitor will handle 1280x1024 at 72hz04:00
doogluslogical_mark: you can use the "fuser" command or "lsof" to see what's using it04:00
kuraiabye04:00
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dooglussonare: http://packages.ubuntu.com04:00
matt247234broam:yes, it should, but it doesn't and doesn't show up in the resolution changer04:00
Broamis there any way to filter the output of lsof? geeeez04:00
badmacktuckokay dokay04:00
_native_LeeJunFan, i dont know if i woulduse ubuntu for that.04:00
dooglusBroam: "lsof /media/cdrom"04:00
badmacktuckhow do i play divx's04:00
tritiummatt247234, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and try to enable more refresh rates04:00
revi'm haveing trouble finding the grub conf file04:00
badmacktuckor any avi for that matter04:00
BroamThanks dooglus04:01
logical_markdooglus: new to linux. I only understand how to do sudo eject...04:01
matt247234tritium: just did that to get the conf04:01
slideOk, so I am trying to setup tv-out on my box but whenever gnome starts nothing shows up at first, if i change the resolution my login screen shows up. The mouse can go off the rght side of the screen but its still on the monitor (just cant click anything but it still shows the same background and stuff), this is the guide i followed http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98456 This is my xorg.conf http://rafb.net/paste/results/68jSsd63.04:01
slidehtml and this is my Xorg.0.log http://rafb.net/paste/results/asBLj525.html04:01
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dooglusBroam: and of course, you can pipe the output through grep, perl, or whatever your filter of choice happens to be04:01
Broamlogical_mark: try lsof /media/cdrom like dooglus suggested04:01
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BroamI'm learning so much.04:01
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BroamI think Theodora should crash more often so I have an excuse to pop in here...I'm just kidding, honey.  No , I would never ruin your laptop to talk to these wonderful people04:02
sonareheh :)04:02
dooglusBroam: "lsof | grep cd" would probably do04:02
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sonarelaptops and linux :C04:02
BroamYeah.04:02
BroamThis thing is a total dog, too04:02
BroamBoth batteries refuse to charge04:02
dooglusBroam: oh, except there's a lot of addresses there with "0xcd" in them.  so "grep cdrom" is better.04:02
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BrunellusI've just enabled xcompmgr on my machine, and my gnome panels seem to have gone04:02
Broamyeah, good old hexadecimal04:02
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sonarei cant wait to inherit my friends VAIO laptop. that will be so much fun with ubuntu04:02
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tritiumsonare, laptop support in ubuntu is quite good04:03
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BroamI wonder if kill-all gnome panel will fix that04:03
sonarei know :D04:03
alekzhow can i run 3dchess ? apt says is already installed but i cant found it :S04:03
Broamstupid general question04:03
xiaogildooglus: i know... it works for me too now that I have added " "04:03
dooglusBroam: you'll need a hyphen in there I think.  gnome-panel04:03
sonarebut damn vaio is worse thaan a winmodem04:03
badmacktucki have a ton of .avi files, mostly divx and xvid, and i cant get any of them to play. does anyone have a player recommendation?04:03
Broamif people install programs and they don't install up in the menu04:03
tritium!restricted04:03
ubotuwell, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats04:03
dooglusxiaogil: added what?  oh - you quoted the url?04:03
Broamis `apt-get install menu` the way to fix it?04:03
xiaogildooglus: yes :)04:03
xiaogildooglus: thanks for your help04:04
tritiumalekz, dpkg -L <packagename> to list the files in the package04:04
xiaogildooglus: did you quote it too ?04:04
Broam!info breezy menu04:04
sonarebadmacktuck: totem will play them but i am sure you need either the codec or the linux equivalent of directshow04:04
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alekzthanks tritium04:04
badmacktucksonare, you know what the codecs called?04:04
dooglusxiaogil: the problem was the '&' in the URL.  if the shell sees a "&", it thinks that's the end of the command.04:04
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badmacktucksonare, i found a few but it still wont play04:04
tritiumalekz, likely in a games directory not in your path04:04
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Broamubotu, tell Broam about yourself04:05
dooglusxiaogil: you could stick a '\' in front of the & instead of quoting the URL - that should work too04:05
sonarebadmacktuck: http://www.xvid.org/04:05
Broam!info menu04:05
ubotumenu: (generates programs menu for all menu-aware applications), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 2.1.25 (breezy), Packaged size: 377 kB, Installed size: 1620 kB04:05
sonarebadmacktuck: http://www.divx.com/divx/linux/04:05
tritiumbadmacktuck, read that URL from ubotu about restricted formats04:06
Broamalekz:  you can also install the "menu" package04:06
tritiumBroam, but menu does not implement the freedesktop.org standard04:06
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BroamIt doesn't?04:06
BroamWhat does then04:06
starscallingarg04:07
BroamI dont' mind doing it the wrong way for myself, but I'd rather not steer others the wrong way04:07
tritiumBroam, gnome and kde have implemented it, and most applications are including proper .desktop files, but not all have yet04:07
BroamGotcha04:08
Brunelluswhat does it mean when the bonobo-activation server exits with error code 3?04:08
Broam!info bonobo04:08
ubotubonobo: (The GNOME Bonobo System.), section gnome, is optional. Version: 1.0.22-2.3build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 150 kB, Installed size: 1300 kB04:08
dooglusBroam: a good hint is to get the 'debian' menu working - then even packages which don't install proper .desktop files appear in the menu, under 'debian'04:08
BroamThat's informative04:08
sonarethat restricted formats page is an eyeopener. tells me everything i needed to know. thanks ubuntu!04:08
Broamdooglus:  Do tell. :)04:09
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BroamWait, think I found it04:09
dooglusBroam: do you see 'debian' under 'applications'?04:09
BroamI don't , but I'm in the editor and it's greyed out04:09
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dooglusBroam: install package "menu-xdg" and it should appear04:10
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dooglussonare: ubotu is a bot.04:10
dooglussonare: so there's not much point thanking it :)04:10
BroamBingo.  Thanks dooglus04:10
dooglusBroam: obscure, eh?04:11
BroamYes.  Ubotu was not programmed to understand gratitude04:11
Broamdooglus: I have my share of obscure trivia04:11
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dooglusBroam: the funny thing is, I recently installed breezy onto a different PC from scratch and the debian menu was enabled out the box.04:11
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BroamFreaky04:11
maxhello everybody04:11
Broamhi max04:11
dooglusBroam: that's what prompted me to go and hunt down how to enable it for my own PC04:11
bob832hello max04:11
Broamdooglus: Aha.04:11
Broamdooglus: I once had beep media player start up with a stream as a command argument and saw the debian skin instead of the ubuntu one04:12
Broamdooglus: Sometimes the paint's a little thin. :)04:12
dooglusBroam: indeed.  it's still debian underneath the brown paint.04:12
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GunbladeI am denied access from a folder whats an easy way so I can write to it ?04:13
xiaogildooglus: for me, the image can only be watched with evince (pdf), do you know how to watch it with any picture application ?04:13
ULffuntu<wayne shorter<beep media player04:13
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dooglusBroam: did you ever run debian?  I only ran it for a few hours, when I was a lot greener than I am now.  I don't have much of a basis for comparison04:13
Broamdooglus: I ran SuSE 9.104:13
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dooglusxiaogil: I'm too scared to open the image.  I suspect you're trying to hax0r my box0r04:14
Broamdooglus: That was a DOG.  It was KDE 3.2, before they started getting big on memory conservation04:14
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matatatahej04:14
Broamdooglus: it was on a machine roughly equivalent to Theodora here (P2-400, 128mb ram)04:14
dooglusBroam: I'm mostly a mandrake refugee04:14
Broamhello matatata04:14
xiaogildooglus: ?04:14
matatatahello04:14
dooglusxiaogil: never mind.04:14
matatataare you04:14
Broamdooglus: I ran a lot of OpenBSD and NetBSD too04:14
matatataUbuntu fans??04:14
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outofsightQuestion: How do I change my laptop's functional volume key to control front speaker instead of PCM?04:15
matatatahow new is it??04:15
BroamWarty has been out since Oct 200404:15
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GunbladeI am denied access from a folder how do i get access?04:15
triple5hi folks04:15
tritiummatatata, how new is what?04:15
Broamthe current version is Breezy, October 200504:15
matatataumbuntu04:15
BroamGunblade:  which folder?04:15
tritiummatatata, depends on which release you're asking about04:15
matatatawhen did unbuntu come04:15
matatatafirst04:15
Broamoutofsight: I think there's a way to do it...you may need to fool with key bindings.04:15
thoreauputicGunblade: depends which directory, and why04:16
dooglusxiaogil: according to 'file', it's a "DjVu Image file", whatever that is.  I'd just be happy that evince can open it if I was you...  :)04:16
tritiumThe first release was Oct. 200404:16
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Broamwhat is DjVu?04:16
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ULffuntulike a pdf04:16
Broamsay no more.  Thank you :)04:16
outofsightBroam, where are these key bindings?04:16
dooglusBroam: I've no idea.  that's what "file image" told me04:16
FalstiusBroam: around here it is a strip club (or so I've been told)04:16
matatatai dont know anything about umbuntu is it mutch better then "linux"04:16
Gunbladewell when installing a TS server in the tutorial they make you create  TSS user,and it creates a folder where my home is...I need to put the TS server in there but I can not write to it04:16
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xiaogildooglus: but i need to re-use it, it's amazing that Gimp can't open it04:16
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dooglusFalstius: that's not a good name for a strip club.  doesn't it mean "i've seen it all before" or something?04:16
Broamoutofsight:  Not sure.  I'm not sure how your laptop handles the volume control--does it send it the command to the OS or the BIOS?  That I can't answer.  What brand is your laptop?04:16
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Broamdooglus: I've seen this before and I'm living it again or sometsuch04:17
dooglusxiaogil: you can open it in evince and then take a screenshot with the PrtSc key04:17
BroamGunblade:  Try using `sudo -i`04:17
dooglusBroam: you and me both.04:17
matatatalinux is an older verion of umbuntu now?=??04:17
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Broammatatata:  Ubuntu is a version of Linux04:17
jonathonhello im trying to make my linux look cool and was wondering if anyone knew how to change the background that comes up when the gnome splash is loading/04:17
B_166-ER-Xhow do i ignore someone under Xchat 2.6.0 ?04:17
dooglusBroam: this reminds me very much of another night spent putting off packing for a flight in the morning :)04:17
skplecan someone tell me why the 'configure' button is greyed out on my network ptroperties panel?04:17
triple5So, I have a problem: my usbmount doesn't work and I plug in usb stick or mobile phone without it coming up on the  screen04:17
outofsightBroam, it's an ASUS, I think it worked before when I had initially installed breezy but stopped when I updated the kernel04:17
Falstiusthe french translates literally as "already seen"04:17
matatataso if i want to get linux i go for unbunt04:17
triple5I have tried lsmod04:18
Broammatatata: Yes.  There are many different kinds of Linux, but Ubuntu is regarded as one of the best04:18
GunbladeBroan: and then what?04:18
Broamtriple5:  can you use the HAL to verify that the OS is seeing it?04:18
matatataIS IT going to be problems with my GAMES if i get umbuntu????04:18
dooglusmatatata: linux is the name of the kernel.  ubuntu is a distribution which uses the linux kernel.  this room is full of ubuntu lovers, so we'll tell you to use ubuntu.  other channels will tell you to use their favourite distribution.04:18
BroamGunblade:  When you are root you can do anything, so you can go into that folder and place things in there.  Be careful though04:18
skplecan someone tell me why the 'configure' button is greyed out on my network ptroperties panel?04:18
tritiummatatata, it is spelled "ubuntu"04:19
GunbladeI am still denied...04:19
triple5Broam: how to use HAL?04:19
dooglusmatatata: of course, we're right and the others are all wrong.  don't listen to them,.04:19
Broamtriple5:  hold please04:19
xiaogildooglus: unfortunately, the picture is bigger than my screen04:19
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ULffuntujonathon: http://www.gnome-look.org/04:19
Glossaryhow can i make people TELnet to my IP address??04:19
Broamtriple5:  System -> Administration -> device manager04:19
cyphaseGlossary, you probably need to open your firewall04:19
Madpilotmatatata: that depends on which games you're talking about - regular Windows games won't run without using other applications to emulate Windows...04:19
GunbladeError while moving items to "/home/tss". is what I get when trying to drag the folder to it04:19
Glossarycyphase, i dont have any firewall04:19
cyphaseGlossary, router?04:20
tritiumGlossary, ssh would be more secure04:20
Glossarycyphase,  nop.04:20
cyphaseso your computer connects straight to the net?04:20
dooglusxiaogil: are you sure?  it's only about 500 pixels high, and less wide.04:20
cyphaseas in..04:20
Glossaryssh dont work either04:20
BroamGunblade: You may want to chmod that directory so that you can write to it04:20
matatatabut can i get an emulation of windows and then run all GAMES04:20
dooglusxiaogil: zoom to "100%"04:20
Broammatatata: Yes04:20
cyphasecard in computer -> wall plug kind of thing?04:20
tritiumGlossary, you need to install the server04:20
skplecan someone tell me why the 'configure' button is greyed out on my network ptroperties panel?04:20
Broamskple: What sort of network card you got in that thing?04:20
xiaogildooglus: i'll loose all the quality of the image04:20
Glossarytritium, what server and how?:S04:20
dooglusskple: did you run it as root?04:20
cyphaseIs Ubuntu going to support per user application installation?04:20
dooglusxiaogil: zooming to 100% loses qualityy?04:20
jonathoni know how to change my background but there seems to be another background imagine that is loading up between login and my actual gnome desktop04:20
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tritiumGlossary, openssh-server (or just ssh)04:20
xiaogildooglus: and i'll need to do that with many images04:20
matatataall NEW GAMES then to they work with unbunto or only some????????04:20
Broamskple:  you also can't edit the "lo" interface04:20
qwerrttyyDoes anyone know why gaim keeps disconnecting after a while? My friend has this problem on Windows, too.04:21
Glossarytritium, what do i search for in apt-cache search ?04:21
Broammatatata: You will need to use a product called CEDEGA to play Windows games in Ubuntu04:21
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xiaogildooglus: they're should be a command to get this image04:21
cyphaseqwerrttyy, which IM system?04:21
matatataUBUNTU04:21
cyphasenetwork*04:21
Madpilotmatatata: that's going to depend on which games you're interested in...04:21
tritiumGlossary, sudo apt-get install openssh-server04:21
skplebroam: thank you04:21
FalstiusGlossary: apt-get openssh-server04:21
xiaogildooglus: in a clean way04:21
qwerrttyycyphase, AIM04:21
cyphaseAIM has been having problems lately i've heard04:21
matatatalike FEAR AOE 3 m.m04:21
cyphasenot with Gaim04:21
Broamskple: the 'lo' interface is local loopback, it's used for certain programs.  You need another interface such as 'eth0' to connect to the internet04:21
cyphasethe network itself04:21
triple5Broam: I have the device there... USB04:21
dooglusxiaogil: did you check out the 'djvulibre-bin' package?  I've not, but maybe that can convert it to something more common04:21
matatatacall of du  204:21
cyphaseyou couldn't add the "ty"?04:22
cyphase:)04:22
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Broamtriple:  what is the device exactly?  (I have a LG-VX6100 and I can get it to be seen and picked up as a network interface of all things!)04:22
Gunbladehow do you CHMOD a directory?04:22
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matatatacant umbuntu uppgrade so all games Working===?04:22
Glossaryok Done, now what?04:22
Broamgunblade:  This is dangerous stuff...04:22
dooglusGunblade: "chmod <mode> <directory>"04:22
th3flawl3ss1i have a quick question guys04:22
cyphaseGunblade, same way you do it wiht a file04:22
sethkGunblade, same way you chmod a file04:22
cyphasewith*04:22
tritiummatatata, it's not as simple as you suggest04:22
BroamGunblade: what the "mode" is..you may need to read some manual pages04:22
sethkGunblade, in UNIX things work consistently04:22
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Madpilotmatatata: like I said, that depends on the game - I'd search google if I were you04:23
dooglusGunblade: "man chmod" for the man page04:23
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triple5Broam: it is a little USB mass storage stick 512MB04:23
sethkGunblade, for a directory x means searchable rather than executable04:23
xiaogildooglus: i'll try it right now04:23
Broamtriple5:  You may just need to mount it04:23
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Broamtriple5:  do me a favor.  Open up a text terminal04:23
triple5can't see where, it did it once or twice, but04:23
cyphaseIs Ubuntu going to support per user application installation? Meaning, a user can intstall an application in their home directory without admin rights, using a package manager04:23
sonarei understand that winmodems are difficult to get working in linux. however, device manager recognises the chipset etc, but there is nothing under /dev/modem or any of the /dev/pci* entries. Is it best I just buy a new, non-win based modem?04:23
triple5Broam done the text terminal04:23
Broamtriple5:  type 'dmesg | less' and scroll to the bottom04:23
dooglussethk: I'm not sure.  'x' lets you into the directory, but doesn't let you list its contents04:24
Broamyou want to write world (what is that, 775)?04:24
triple5usb-storage: device scan complete04:24
matatatai like consept of Umbuntu..... but i dont change to it if not all Programs/games are working,, maybe i get it on my next computer but then i need  to emulate windows in umbuntu ,, WEel seeeeeee04:24
th3flawl3ss1im new to linux and need help getting this program installed. http://www.teamxlink.co.uk im not even sure which version to run with ubuntu04:24
Broamtriple5:  did it say anything about mounting it?04:24
dooglusBroam: 777.  but "o+w" is easier to think of04:24
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Broamtriple5:  if not, hit 'q' to quit less04:24
sonarecyphase: you can bar users from executing certain programs04:25
cyphaseWho's having problems with the nVidia driver in Ubuntu?04:25
GlossaryHow can i create different Directories with Different passwords for different users??04:25
Broamtriple5:  and type 'mount' with no arguments04:25
thoreauputicsonare: probably - have you looked at http://linmodems.org ? Some winmodems can be made to work04:25
cyphasesonare, what's that got to do with it?04:25
sethkdooglus, a+rwx (all read/write/execute) is the same as 77704:25
Broamtriple5:  If you want to paste that output, join the #flood channel here and I'll be there04:25
sethkdooglus, don't use numbers, that's the mark of an amateur04:25
triple5okay04:25
Broamsethk: or a BSD junkie04:25
sonarecyphase: i think it would be a bad idea because of dependencies on the whole system04:25
cyphasesonare, i mean users should be able to install applications in their home directory without admin rights04:25
cyphasewhat do you mean?04:26
sethkBroam, no, the symbols have been available in BSD since 197104:26
FalstiusGlossary: use the "adduser" command and "passwd" you can look up the details online.  You might want to read a basic linux admin tutorial.04:26
cyphasethey could have whatever dependencies in their home folder04:26
matatata i like consept of Umbuntu..... but i dont change to it if not all Programs/games are working,, maybe i get it on my next computer but then i need  to emulate windows in umbuntu ,, WEel seeeeeee /// please here my problem and  konsult with your Linux creators =) =) =)04:26
cyphaselike a miniture of the system-wide package manager04:26
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matatataheheh04:26
cyphaseminiature*04:26
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cyphasewith some changes to account for the circumstances04:26
sethkmatatata, no distribution, o/s, whatever, has "all" of anything04:26
tritiumyeah, we saw already, matatata.  Tell that to the makers of your windows games/programs...04:26
xiaogildooglus: djvuextract should do the job, but nothing happens when i execute : djvuextract "/home/gilles/GetImage_FileName.jsp?filename=R024974ccwa&type=3"04:27
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matatatabut i like linux more04:27
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matatatabut i dont know anything of it yet04:27
petrucchioquit04:27
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=== cyphase hopes, someday, there will be an MMORPG that only runs in linux
cyphase:)04:28
Madpilotmatatata: Linux isn't just a different version of Windows, it's a totally different system, so Windows programs can't run in Linux... and the emulators aren't perfect and can't do some things either...04:28
tritiumthere's no time like the present to start learning, matatata04:28
cyphase*yea right*04:28
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sonarecyphase: i think you have a good idea there but i think the security problem will overshadow things04:28
cyphasewhat security problems?04:28
matatatathanks MADPILOT04:28
sonareyou can already install software (as an admin) that wipes the whole disk04:28
Falstius cyphase, it won't happen because linux programers tend to keep platform compatibility in mind ;)04:28
cyphaseyea..04:28
cyphaseFalstius, i know04:29
cyphasebut we need an open source MMORPG04:29
cyphasethat works in linux04:29
cyphaseto draw more people in04:29
cyphase;)04:29
tritium!enter04:29
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!04:29
FalstiusNethack.04:29
matt247234tritium:have any other ideas for my monitor, i ran that configure thing a few more times and got the same results each time; i don't know if it changes anything, but it is connected on dvi04:29
matatatawhat is the best thing with unbunto if you compare to older VERIONS04:29
sonarenethack is brilliant04:29
cyphaseyea..04:29
tritiummatt247234, not really, sorry04:29
sethkmatatata, the strange questions on IRC04:30
Hmmmmhi guys, i need to write some documentaiton. i was wondering if someone could suggest a good tool for doing that04:30
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BroamBAH I gotta go04:30
Madpilotsethk: :D04:30
Broamthe girlfriend needs picked up04:30
BroamBBL04:30
tritiumHmmmm, LaTeX04:30
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dooglussonare: did you try "crawl"?04:30
sonareand nethack is funny, unlike the terrible wish-fullfillment most mmorpgs devolve into04:30
cyphaselol04:30
icerabbitI'm happy to say that I am now connected to IRC from within X!04:30
cyphaseunfourtanetly..04:30
Hmmmmtritium, unfortunately i don't know tex04:30
Broam-AwaywOOOOOOOOOOOOOo04:30
cyphasepeople won't move to linux just because nethack works on it04:30
Hmmmmi was hoping to use some sorta simple gui with templates04:30
cyphasenow, WoW..04:31
sonarehello i am a hott dark-elf with a big sword04:31
Hmmmmsomething for gnome04:31
cyphaseor Guild Wars04:31
tritiumHmmmm, it's worth learning, particularly for the beautiful typesetting of mathematics04:31
cyphaseor something like that04:31
sonarehalf-life and alpha centauri is everything anyone should need04:31
cyphasesonare, what security problems were you talking about?04:31
Hmmmmtritium, yesi do wana learn tex, i have fixed an appointment for that lesson for my physics professor04:31
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matatataDO you think the developers gonna do games to all SYSTEMS like Linux in future04:31
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Hmmmmbut right nowi need to get this done quick n a lil dirty04:31
tritiumHmmmm, excellent04:31
slashx1896Hey all04:31
triple5hey04:32
icerabbitApparently all i had to do was run fglrxconfig after "aptituded install xorg-driver-fglrx"!04:32
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agave911hi all04:32
triple5I still have  a problme with the usb storage04:32
sonarecypase: there is no way to tell the effects of a program you download from the internet until you run it04:32
tritiumicerabbit, isn't that on the wiki page?04:32
icerabbitthank you for the help04:32
triple5no mounting, no automounting...04:32
icerabbityes04:32
cyphasesonare, the programs will be from the repositories..04:32
matatatafinal QUEStion:....04:32
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sonarenon-admin installs is why windows is full of spyware etc04:32
agave911i am trying to install breezyx86 on a amd6404:32
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cyphasesonare, i think you're misunderstanding me04:33
sonarecyphase you have a good idea there04:33
matatataWHY SHOLD I CHANGE TO LINUX  (if not securety)04:33
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theblue_Hi all.04:33
sonarei did :)04:33
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jonathonplease help my gnome is ugly04:33
cyphaselol04:33
cyphasei mean..04:33
agave911but am havig trouble on the second fase of the installation04:33
cyphasei can get a tar ball of any program04:33
icerabbitI have learned to successfully use wikis! a turning point in my linuxc life!04:33
cyphaseand extract it to my home directory04:33
cyphaseand run it..04:33
agave911i get a kernel panic error-code 1204:33
slashx1896GnomeMeeting is saying No Device Found for my cam when its clearly plugged in, can someone help?04:34
cyphasebut a package manager is better for obvious reasons04:34
matatata.....04:34
matatataplease someone answer04:34
dooglusmatatata: it's more stable.  you're more in control.  and you'll learn a whole bunch of stuff.04:34
Falstiusmatatata: it is easier to use then windows.04:34
tritiumslashx1896, is it a supported cam, and is its driver loaded?04:34
sonarematatata: its  ok to use just dont expect to be able to put just any old program on there. nor is some hardware supported because manufacturers are horrible idiots that dont care about users04:34
slashx1896its a logitech cam and i dont think the driver is loaded04:34
Madpilotmatatata: no viruses, no spyware, none of that crap. and no need to run antivirus, antispyware and the rest of *that* crap...04:34
tritiumslashx1896, you'd need it to be04:34
cyphaseyea!04:34
cyphase:D04:35
slashx1896tritium: how04:35
agave911has any one installed x86linux on amd64 ?04:35
matatataso you dont have antivirus???04:35
tritiumslashx1896, sudo modprobe <modulename>04:35
slashx1896srry brb04:35
cyphasematatata, no anti anything needed04:35
cyphase:)04:35
Falstiusagave911: I'm running 86_64 on AMD64 ...04:35
matatatadont you have antivirus on your computer04:35
cyphaseme? no04:35
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cyphasei have a firewall..04:35
cyphasebut no anti virus04:35
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matatatayou only need firewall=???04:36
thoreauputicmatatata: no linux viruses in the wild04:36
cyphaseyou don't even need that04:36
cyphaseif you have a hardware firewall04:36
Falstiusthoreauputic: that's not true (atleast according to the news)04:36
cyphasebut i have a firewall because i like to play with software04:36
tagLINUX IS A VIRUS04:36
cyphaselol04:36
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tag</troll>04:36
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cyphase;)04:36
thoreauputicFalstius: oh? link?04:36
agave911Falstius: how did you manage?04:36
matatataonly Linuxhackers is i am affraid of if i get linux?????04:36
cyphaseWINDOWS*04:36
agave911Falstius: is there a parameter?04:37
cyphasematatata, a hardware firewall will protect you04:37
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Falstiusagave911: for most things it is sweet .. some problems with binary codecs (no flash) but you can do a chroot for all of that if you like.04:37
cyphaseand you might as well get a software firewall04:37
cyphaselike Firestarter04:37
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thoreauputicFalstius: I'd be interested to know if there is a virus in the wild - that would be a first04:37
xiaogildooglus: are you still there ?04:37
matatatabut you dont need to be a hacker to get LINUX like i am only an middle-nob-Now more then family-guy04:38
thoreauputicFalstius: where did you read that about viruses for linux ?04:38
agave911Falstius: do you run breezy i486 on the amd6404:38
Falstiusthoreauputic: http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2001/09/18/insecurities.html04:38
cyphasematatata, Linux isn't for hackers only :)04:38
Falstiusthoreauputic: I read about it on slashdot a while back.04:38
thoreauputicFalstius: OK thanks - looking now04:38
agave911i already have breezy-amd64 installed, but need something more stable04:38
Falstiusagave911: I run 64bit breezy, I haven't tried the 32bit.04:38
agave911Falstius: ok04:38
matatatai have 1000000 questions for you  linux guys out there04:38
slashx1896tritium: what u mean my module name?04:39
cyphasego ahead04:39
tritiumslashx1896, the name of the module for your webcam04:39
slashx1896all i know about it that it is logitech..04:39
Madpilotmatatata: Ubuntu is specifically aimed at non-hackers... it's designed to be usable by anyone04:39
Falstiusagave911: I haven't had stability problems except for totem .. but I had problems with that in 32bit too.04:39
matatatahoe demanding is it on hardware if you compare with Windows XP04:39
dooglusxiaogil: yes.04:39
cyphaseless demanding04:39
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matt247234can anyone help me with my monitor?  i just found out that it does 75Hz on d-sub, but somehow only 60 on dvi (xorg.conf: http://pastebin.ca/32604)04:39
cyphasei've heard some cases where it's more04:39
dooglusxiaogil: I extracted the .IFF content, using: djvuextract ./image.djvu BG44=image.iff04:39
matatatai have 512 RAM04:39
cyphasebut most i've heard say it's faster04:39
agave911Falstius: Gnome crashes sometimes, it is anoying04:40
thoreauputicFalstius: umm - that looks to be a trojan, and the by-line was 2001 (*very* old news04:40
dooglusxiaogil: run "djvudump <file>" to get the name "BG44" to use04:40
dooglusxiaogil: but then - The Gimp doesn't want to open the .iff file anyway...04:40
matatataif i get  UBUNTO can i have it in a network and send  files betwin one with XP04:40
Falstiusthoreauputic: I didn't say there were many of them ;)  Just you can't say "none"04:40
Madpilotmatatata: with 512 you should be fine, Ubuntu will probably run at least as fast as XP, probably faster04:40
tritiumthoreauputic, there was a rather nasty vulnerability in apache recently04:40
sonareagave mostly that is just nautilus, but it is gettign better all the time04:40
cyphasematatata, yes04:40
xiaogildooglus: I tried the command : djvuextract "/home/gilles/GetImage_FileName.jsp?filename=R024974ccwa&type=3" BG44=myimage which returnsa file which has the same size a the image but that is readable by nothing04:40
slashx1896tritium, all i know about my logitech is the make of it, where do i find the module i have to type04:41
matatatacaz i going to buy a new  computer04:41
thoreauputictritium: I didn't say there were no vulnerabilities04:41
sonarematatata U-B-U-N-T-U >:D04:41
matatataheheh04:41
dooglusxiaogil: me too...  we now need to work out how to use .iff files...04:41
thoreauputictritium: I was only referring to viruses04:41
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matt247234anyone?04:41
tritiumslashx1896, first find out if the hardware is supported at all (ask uncle google, for staters)04:41
cyphasetritium, a virus is a program04:41
Falstiusagave: airen@box:~/.wine$ uptime04:41
Falstius 22:43:52 up 7 days,  2:15,  2 users,  load average: 0.01, 0.04, 0.0004:41
matatatahow demanding is the  Emulator of windows  if i want to play games i need to lower my graficks then`???????04:41
cyphasea hacker is a quick thinking person who can adapt to the situation quickly04:42
xiaogildooglus: why did you name it .tiff, it seems the result is exactly the same when naming it .jpg04:42
cyphasehackers are harder to prevent then viruses04:42
slashx1896lol, so find out if my logitech cam is supported to linux?04:42
sonarematatata: it is not an emulator04:42
tritiumcyphase, heh, thanks for that info04:42
_jasoncyphase, so he has to be quick then? :P04:42
matatatawhat is it=??04:42
logical_markHey, I downloaded the Bianary for BOINC and now I need to know how to install it04:42
cyphase_jason, yes04:42
thoreauputiccyphase: hacker != cracker04:42
cyphasei know04:42
sonarematatata: it uses the windows libraries but does not slow down because there is no OS-on-OS barrier04:42
dooglusxiaogil: it's in .iff format...04:42
matatataif not games  work  when i have umbunto how to play windows-games04:43
dooglusxiaogil: run "file" on it to see that.04:43
dooglusxiaogil: Useful conversion programs: iff2pgm, pgm2iff, iff2ps, convert_format (in nelson's bin)04:43
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cyphasei say hacker sometimes still04:43
sonarematatata: wine can even be faster on ubuntu than on windows itself!04:43
cyphaselol04:43
broamI'm baaaaaaaaaaaack04:43
linux_newbanyone here use gyach enhanced?04:43
xiaogildooglus: you know so much...04:43
broamtriple5:  you get taken care of?04:43
matatataso the libary is ALWAYS inside umbunto and dont need an Procces to play windows-games???04:43
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sonareyep04:44
logical_markcyphase: if there is already an expliot in EVERY computer in the world running windows, or EVERY router that runs important backbones, then I would argue that a quickly executed virus would be more damging than a hacker executing the attack himself...04:44
matatataso.....04:44
cyphaseyea..04:44
dooglusxiaogil: I don't know anything about this, but I know how to google...04:44
cyphasebut we're talking about linux04:44
matatataif i have umbunto and windows libary and play a game.... SAME performence???????????04:44
cyphaseand not every computer in the world, of any os, has the same vulnerability04:44
dooglusxiaogil: the problem is, I can't find iff2pgm.  The Gimp can almost certainly open pgm files, so that's all we'd need04:44
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cyphaseand i'm talking about one network04:45
sonarematatata: not -all- games ever created in the history of windows work yet (wine is a work in progress) but if you have a problem just set aside a partition for windows and use that for games!04:45
cyphasea virus versus a hacker04:45
cyphasea hacker is faster04:45
cyphasecracker*04:45
sonarematatata: same performance04:45
tritiumdon't forget to define virus, cyphase04:45
matatatapartition for windows.........04:45
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sonarea partition on your disk.04:45
thoreauputicmatatata: and it's spelled U-B-U-N-T-U  :)04:45
th3flawl3ss1anybody got a minute to help a noob?04:45
broamI do!  I do!04:46
matatataUBUNTo yes yes04:46
broamPick me!  Pick me!04:46
cyphaselol04:46
tritiummatatata, almost ;)04:46
th3flawl3ss1lol04:46
matatataU04:46
dooglusxiaogil: a google search for "iff2pgm" only returns 2 hits - neither offers a copy of the program.04:46
cyphaseUuntu04:46
cyphaseoops04:46
bimberithoreauputic: thanks, that was annoying me too :P04:46
sonarewhat is all this Umberto rubbish about anyway????????? is it like apple mac??????????04:46
cyphasepressed Insert04:46
cyphaseUbuntu*04:46
th3flawl3ss1i have 2 problems here, just installed the 64 bit version and cant write to my external HDD04:46
thoreauputicbimberi: heheh :)04:46
th3flawl3ss1its read only04:46
sonarehehe04:46
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broamth3flawl3ss1: You will need to remount it read-write04:46
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broamth3flawl3ss1: of course, your next question is "how"?04:46
matatatahere in sweden its easier to say umbunto its coming along when i writing04:47
th3flawl3ss1lol04:47
cyphaseth3flawl3ss1, what format is it/04:47
broamI was walking triple5 through this but the girlfriend needed a ride home04:47
cyphase?*04:47
th3flawl3ss1not sure... i think fat3204:47
cyphaseok04:47
dooglusxiaogil: http://freshmeat.net/projects/gimpiffplugin/ looks promising04:47
matatatawell04:47
broamvfat!  let's hear it for vfat! :P04:47
cyphasebecause linux doesn't do NTFS well04:47
xiaogildooglus: what about netpbm ?04:47
matatatai dont wont virus04:47
cyphaseso if it's NTFS, that's why04:47
bungleHow do I set up my 15" lcd screen in xorg conf04:47
cyphasematatata, don't worry04:47
dooglusxiaogil: does that do IFF?  if so, why not...04:47
cyphaseyour safe :)04:47
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th3flawl3ss1ok, im guessin i right click and go to properties to find out for sure04:48
ordinarySOMEONE update me on the REPOSITORY changes!  I get a 404 not found with SYNAPTIC!04:48
Ishotwebhmm so i'm still trying to learn the linux filesystem... a tutorial tells me to look in .wine/drive_c/windows/system , can someone tell me where that is?04:48
cyphaseordinary, no changes04:48
cyphasei get all my updates right04:48
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sonareooh i have a question: how easy is it to plug-and-play? will Umberto (oh god now I'm doing it too!) detect the change in hardware and load/unload the right drivers on startup?04:48
Falstiusth3flawl3ss1: the easoest way is to type "mount" at a command prompt.04:48
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Ishotwebi suppose i should go read something on basic terminal commands so i'm not completely illiterate04:48
dooglusxiaogil: netpbm seems to handle TIFF but not IFF04:48
tritiumIshotweb, under your home dir04:48
broamth3flawl3ss1: If you want to paste your mount output, join #flood04:48
matatatabut if i had a windows partision dosent it means holes for viruses m.m??????????04:48
thoreauputicIshotweb: it's a hideen (dot) directory in your home directory04:48
triple5I have tried lsmod, all modules seem to be in place, but I don't have ehci_hcd04:48
ordinaryERROR "W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)04:48
ordinary"04:48
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Madpilotsonare: depends what the hardware is - stuff like digital cameras and printers usually "just work"04:49
broamtriple5: you're alive!04:49
triple5instead I have uhci_hcd04:49
cyphaseordinary, i *just* did an apt-get update04:49
cyphase100%04:49
broamtriple5: ehci and uhci are just different speeds I think04:49
sonarematatata: only if you install stuff from the internet using windows.04:49
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cyphaseordinary, that's not a 40404:49
MichaelCan someone tell me how to make a windows harddrive readable? (already mounted)04:49
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cyphaseordinary, add sudo to the beginning if your not root04:49
thoreauputicordinary: wait a while and try again04:49
broamLooks like we're holding a session to mount hard disks!04:49
Ishotwebtritium and thoreauputic: ahhh thanks.. didn't think about hidden files04:49
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janopotterwhat is of chanel in spanich04:49
th3flawl3ss1lol04:49
tritium!your04:49
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, your is "your" is possessive, "you're" is a contraction meaning "you are"04:49
broamI almost wish we were doing this 2 weeks ago when I spent 2 hours trying to do this04:50
matatataadd sonare ///friends list of KNOWLAGE04:50
janopotterwhat is the chanel in spanich04:50
thoreauputicIshotweb: a dot hides the file in *nix :)04:50
tritium!es04:50
ordinarythe command is working, files are being downloaded :D04:50
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:50
Madpilot!es04:50
cyphasetritium, i know :)04:50
triple5okay different speeds, but which is the right one for USB 104:50
cyphasebut what the hell04:50
cyphaseyou're* :)04:50
tritiumheh :)04:50
janopotterhola cual es el canal en espaol de ubuntu04:50
broamtriple5:  Dunno.  Try uhci and see what you get04:50
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Ishotwebthoreaputic : ah... that makes sense. so how do i find it if it's hidden?04:50
sonareMadpilot: I trust network cards and modems are relatively PnP? that is, for the ones with driver support in the kernel.04:50
matatataadd cyoohase ///user =good to ask04:50
tritium!es janopotter04:50
ubotutritium: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?04:50
cyphasehow about me!04:50
cyphase;)04:50
broamsonare: modems are often *not* PnP.  WinModems, and all04:50
Ishotweberr oops, misspelled thoreauputic04:50
triple5broam: what do you mean try uhci?04:50
cyphasematatata, cyphase* :)04:51
Madpilotsonare: Ubuntu detected my onboard network stuff just fine on install - likewise my onboard sound04:51
sonarebroam: winmodems .... argh!04:51
triple5I have tried uhci, but this error message comes up,04:51
thoreauputicIshotweb: either hit ctrl-H in nautilus or use  ls -al for instance04:51
broamtriple5:  actually you should be ok.  It should ju04:51
triple5sense key: Unit Attention.04:51
broamtriple5: ^W^W^W^W^W^W^W^W^W I'm in flood, paste away04:51
janopotterhola cual es el canal en espaol de ubuntu04:51
tritium!es04:51
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:51
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tritiumjanopotter, ^^^04:51
matatatai going to install UMBUNTU i think on my next COMPUTER i going to buy after chrismus, YOU know WHY??????????+04:51
janopotter#ubuntues04:51
thoreauputicIshotweb: for tricky nicks, try  e.g. thore <hit tab>  :)04:52
sonareMadpilot: i am thinking of putting in different hardware, post-install; not installing with the hardware04:52
broamsi04:52
tritiummatatata, um...hakuna matatata ?04:52
frogzoobroam: if theye winmodems - then no, if theye external serial modems - then yes04:52
triple5I am gone to flood04:52
cyphasematatata, you don't have to have a lot of question marks and capital letters04:52
cyphasefor random words04:52
xiaogildooglus: could it be iff ilbm images ?04:52
cyphaseand it's Ubuntu*04:52
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Chris-CSynaptic question: how do I tell whether a package listed came from the universe rep or the multiverse rep?  Without digging into properties ... Is there some way to make it visible in the list display?04:52
sonarecyphase: he is saying that to be silly i think.04:53
Ishotwebthoreauputic, ah that makes it easier. thanks for all the help. got it now04:53
matatatai think micrsoft is going to after a while BLOCK all pirate copies Somehow so that EVERYONE must PAY, and the ANTIVIRUS Progs ASAME!!!! (not good))04:53
thoreauputicIshotweb: no worries :)04:53
Madpilotsonare: I haven't installed any hardware beyond hard drives since moving to Ubuntu, so I can't really tell you anything...04:53
tritiumChris-C, apt-cache policy <packagename> is one method04:53
cyphasematatata, please stop04:53
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cyphaseit's annoying04:53
matatatai DONT want to PAY04:53
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cyphasedon't capitalize every other word04:53
thoreauputicmatatata: this is kind of off-topic you know04:53
tritiummatatata, don't support piracy here, please04:53
frogzoomatatata: can't be done - there'll always be keygens04:53
cyphaseLIKE this, BECAUSE it's ANNOYING04:53
Chris-Ctritium, thanks but I meant in the synaptic list view04:54
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xiaogildooglus: netpbm doesn't work, thr image is not recognized by ilbmtopbm04:54
bimberiChris-C: Settings -> Preferences -> Columns & Fonts, add the Component column04:54
tagHow do I start a nested X server?  I thought I could do startx ~/.xinitrc -- Xnest :1004:54
sonarei dont like what matatata is doing to the discussion but i dont want to be nasty.04:54
bimberiChris-C: or Section :)04:54
MichaelCan I setup reading for a windows partition if it's been mounted?04:54
matatataops what did i say....ehh04:54
Chris-Cbimberi, awesome!04:54
matatatabest i go..04:54
thoreauputictag: you can use  gdmflexiserver --xnest   (IIRC)04:55
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matatatabye04:55
skpleEVERYONE GO SEE AEON FLUX04:55
skpleit sucked.04:55
tritiummatatata, you know what you said.  We don't support piracy here.04:55
tagX: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.04:55
sonaregood luck matatata !04:55
sonareskple: noooooooooooo04:55
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skplehehe04:55
cyphasematatata, don't steal windows. just don't use it :)04:55
sonareoh peter chung what did you do???04:55
skpleno kidding04:55
thoreauputictag:  Xnest -ac -display :1  is another way I think04:55
dooglusxiaogil: you could try http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/XnView-Download-4612.html - that claims to be able to open and convert .IFF files...04:55
matatatathanks.... i dont suport piracy at all but everyone gots a piracy here and so it is04:56
tritiummatatata, no, not everyone here pirates04:56
matatataall young atleast04:56
sonarelinux is nothing to do with piracy04:56
frogzooif you run ubuntu, its very difficult to not resent having to licence windows for games and nothing else04:56
thoreauputicerm..  Xnest -ac  :104:56
tritiumif you don't like commercial software, don't but it04:57
matatatai think its good caz its for free right??04:57
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cyphase:D04:57
frogzoonot that Id condone running a warez xp just for your games - nope, would never do that04:57
cyphasewe'll see a torrent of switchers04:57
cyphasefrogzoo, of course not04:57
cyphase:)04:57
hyphenatedcyphase: well, those clowns at id software seemed to do precisely that. did you go and buy doom3?04:57
thoreauputicOK all discussion of wareZ etc ---> #ubuntu-offtopic04:57
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ciuswe need more open source games04:58
cyphasehyphenated, no, i didn't04:58
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matatataany program you need to pay for in umbuntu???04:58
hyphenatedand the other clowns that made unreal tournament etc, they did the same04:58
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tagthoreauputic: Also startx -- /usr/bin/Xnest :1204:58
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ciusor more specifically, we need more open assets for the open source engines already out there.04:58
dooglusmatatata: yes.  there's commercial software for ubuntu04:58
xiaogildooglus: xnview can't read it too04:58
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thoreauputictag: aha :)04:58
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dooglusxiaogil: then I'm sorry, but I give up!04:58
janopotterno ahi nadie en el canal #ubuntues04:59
tritium!es04:59
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:59
xiaogildooglus: okay, thanks for your help!04:59
cyphasematatata, IBM just certified their very expensieve commercial database for ubuntu04:59
cyphaselol04:59
matatatabut not the windows libary that you can play games with you need  to pay??04:59
cyphaseno04:59
cyphasethat's free04:59
cyphasewine anyway04:59
dooglusxiaogil: if you really care, the next step would be to delve into evince and see exactly how it's managing to open the image.  but that could get messy.04:59
cyphaseif you get cedega..04:59
cyphasethat costs04:59
hyphenatedyeah, it's a whopping 5USD per month04:59
varsendaggerthoreauputic, i am using chroot to run stuff on another linux distro, the other distro keeps crashing when i switch back to my ubuntu04:59
hyphenatedthat's like a burger a week04:59
matatataso i need umbuntu and Wine to play games?? anything more===??04:59
ciusheck just buy it once04:59
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dooglusxiaogil: clearly there's some free software which can read the format, so your problem does have a solution.05:00
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Falstiustritium, he is complaining there's no one in ubuntu-es05:00
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tritiumFalstius, he spelled the channel name wrong05:00
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ciuswhen you see the perfromance of cedega, you'll go back to your warez xp dual boot or just do without05:00
cyphasehyphenated, you need to chill05:00
sonareha05:00
thoreauputicvarsendagger: and why are you telling me this ? *grin*05:00
xiaogildooglus: i'll have to find it, but i guess that won't be easy05:00
GunbladeHey all I am just wondering how I can install some FTp software to run a FTP server on ubuntu...anything like Filezilla on windows?05:00
mister_robotomatata: if you like shooters, you have a good choice on linux05:00
sonarecius: 3rd party software, says it all05:00
stinkydavehi, is ssh2 installed by default in ubuntu, I am trying to connect to a debain server on my network and it isn't working05:00
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cyphasestinkydave, no05:01
varsendaggeryou are talking about xnest iand i thought i might be able to do the chroot throught xnest05:01
sethkstinkydave, no, separate installl05:01
tritiumstinkydave, not the server.  sudo apt-get install openssh-server05:01
cyphaseyou have to install it05:01
sethkstinkydave, but very easy05:01
thoreauputicGunblade: you want a server or a client?05:01
matatatashooters???05:01
cyphaseinstall ssh05:01
Gunbladeserver05:01
Falstiustritium: eh, you're right.  I was giving him the benefit of the doubt.05:01
regeyawhen I pop in and see something like a cedega diss, I'm just thinking 'um...huh.'05:01
tritium:)05:01
mister_robotomatatata: like quake, doom, unreal tourney05:01
varsendaggerthoreauputic, what is the syntax for xnest05:01
matatata1 person games05:01
ciusanyone know of a project working on free quake 3 assets?05:01
sethkmatatata, hey, this is a clean channel05:02
thoreauputicvarsendagger: it depends - you can do  Xnest -ac :1 for example05:02
tritiumjanopotter, necesitas un "-" en el nombre del canal05:02
stinkydaveI will try to install the openssh-server05:02
regeyaI'm thinking that if you can't deal with not having MS Office and can't deal with the differences between MS Office and OpenOffic, you might need to invest in Windows and MS Office.05:02
cyphasemaybe shuttleworth will give another 20 million(?) for an open source MMORPG05:02
frogzoo!sp05:02
cyphase;)05:02
matatataclen channel???05:02
ubotufrogzoo: I give up, what is it?05:02
frogzoo!ep05:02
ubotufrogzoo: Are you smoking crack?05:02
janopotterthanks05:02
thoreauputicvarsendagger: then you start things from the parent terminal with -display :105:02
Madpilotmatatata: Enemy Territory & Americas Army both have Linux-native versions...05:02
regeyawait...05:02
regeyacedega is WineX, isn't it05:02
tritiumfrogzoo, don't bother, I'm helping another person to get there05:02
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varsendaggerlike xmms -display :105:03
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broamtritium: are you any good at helping people mount drives?  I am teh sux05:03
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matatatawhen you install linux vesion you have the umbuntu version then05:03
tritiumbroam, who needs help?05:03
matatataon games=)))05:03
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mister_robotomatatata:ubuntu is just one distribution of linux (linux operating system with other programs added)05:03
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Madpilotmatatata: yes - and it's Ubuntu, please...05:03
frogzooregeya: both crossover office & cedega are wine derivatives05:03
triple5Me needs a little help in #flood05:03
broamtritium: triple5 and th3flawl3ss105:03
broamtritium: they're in #flood because of mount paste05:04
matatataUbunTU05:04
triple5mounting and automounting05:04
tritiummatatata, please don't mix lower and upper case05:04
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thoreauputicvarsendagger: you might like to run a window manager first :)05:04
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broamtritium: I'm out of ideas05:04
matatata....i always do everything wrong right05:04
matatatagrrrr05:04
sonarei was wondering what is the support for USB dialup modems like?05:04
cratukiFor some reason my ls order is different under ubuntu than on my debian stable host05:04
thoreauputicvarsendagger:  gdmflexiserver --xnest is easier05:05
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cyphasesonare, what support?05:05
cratukiDoes anyone know what causes ls to order like that?05:05
regeyafrogzoo, thank you for your insight.  I've owned licenses to both, thank you.05:05
_jasoncratuki, how is it ordering? it should be alphabetic iirc05:05
Gunbladeso what do I need to install to make a FTP server05:05
varsendaggerohh05:05
mister_robotocratuki: you don't have it aliased, do you? like to provide some desired sort order?05:05
regeyaever since the name change, though, frogger, I occasionally get confused.  especially this time of year.  christmas is always busy for me.05:05
cyphasesonare, i'm just kidding. i have no idea05:05
varsendaggerthoreauputic, thanks05:05
regeyafrogger, frogzoo, who can tell?05:06
matatata"Ubuntu" is an ancient African word, meaning "humanity to others". Ubuntu also means "I am what I am because of who we all are". The Ubuntu Linux distribution brings the spirit of Ubuntu to the software world.// matatat05:06
thoreauputicGunblade: there are quite a few ftp servers for linux - look in synaptic05:06
cyphasedoes anyone have a wireless card working nativly in linux?05:06
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cyphaseout of the box05:06
mister_robotocyphase: yes05:06
bimbericratuki: is ls aliased with some additional options? try "alias ls" to see05:06
tritiumyes, cyphase05:06
cyphase*now* i get answers05:06
cyphaseafter i fixed mine05:06
cyphase:)05:06
frogzoocyphase: my ipw2200 worked out of the box on 5.1005:06
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cratukithanks - it's not aliased05:06
Gunbladewhat is one with an interface, synaptic doesn't really give a huge description05:06
cratuki(still writing up what's wrong)05:06
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bimbericratuki: check on debain too :)05:07
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cyphasemister_roboto, tritium, frogzoo, on a desktop05:07
bimberi*debian05:07
matatatahow to DL unbuntu what do i need05:07
thoreauputicGunblade: you can install pure-ftp with pureadmin05:07
mister_robotocyphase: no, dell laptop05:07
cyphasei figured05:07
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cratukiThanks guys - must be a binary configuration, and seems to have also changed on my recent version of debian stable05:07
frogzoocyphase: are you running breezy ? hoarys wireless support is patchy05:07
tritiumcyphase, laptop05:07
cyphasefrogzoo, of course :)05:07
cratuki(I'm sure it wasn't like that on woody - config must have changed)_05:07
cratukiI can fix by downloading the source.05:07
tritiummatatata, is unbuntu the anti-ubuntu?05:08
cratuki(it's to do with the order files display in, whether underscores are counted as symbols or ignored)05:08
thoreauputichmm  pure-ftpd actually05:08
cyphaseI got a USB NIC working with ndiswrapper easily05:08
cyphasejust install the driver05:08
matatatais it any nice program like STYLEXP on umbuntu=????05:08
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frogzoocyphase: you might like gtkwifi - only it doesnt integrate into the control panel for me - but of you figure it out, Id be interested how05:08
cyphasefrogzoo, what is it?05:08
Madpilotmatatata: what does StyleXP do? If it's a theme manager, then Ubuntu has a very good one built right in05:08
frogzoocyphase: GUI for managing wifi connections - available atm only as a .deb - see sourceforge05:09
cyphasefrogzoo, i use netapplet05:09
thoreauputicmatatata: for heaven's sake start speling ubuntu correctly05:09
dooglusxiaogil: still there?05:09
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ciusmatatata, you don't need anything like styleXP as far as hacking in theming support goes.05:09
broamheh05:09
matatatayes it is  theme manger05:09
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xiaogildooglus: yes, sure05:09
ubuntutest05:09
thoreauputicheh "s/speling/spelling05:09
frogzootest!05:09
xiaogildooglus: the iff image is readble by djview05:09
thoreauputichaha05:09
bimberiubuntu: failed :P05:09
dooglusxiaogil: ok...  is that enough?05:10
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veryfunnylol05:10
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xiaogildooglus: no, unfortunately05:10
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veryfunnyQuestion05:10
xiaogildooglus: i'd like it to be in jpeg05:10
veryfunnyI have two optical drives and only one works05:10
veryfunnyis this commmon?05:10
rjreciohi, is there any dashboard-like app instead of gdesklets?05:10
dooglusxiaogil: here's the answer: ddjvu -format=pnm image.djvu image.pnm05:10
puCan somebody help me set up wifi on a laptop?05:10
veryfunnyon is CD/DVD05:10
broamveryfunny: by optical do you mean CD?05:10
matatatahow to try unbuntu without destroying my things and my windows copy so i can change back to XP later (if i want05:10
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veryfunnyother is CR-RW/DVD-R05:10
broammatatata: there is a way.05:10
frogzooveryfunny: nope - somethings broken - IDE or SATA?05:10
veryfunnyyes05:10
_jasonmatatata, use the livecd05:11
dooglusxiaogil: once you've got .pnm, you can convert that to whatever you like05:11
matatatalivecd05:11
matatatai must burn into an cD????05:11
tritiumyes05:11
veryfunnyfrogzoo:how could i tell its not my system its a friends05:11
pui'm following this guide and i think have the problem pinned down, but dont know how to fix it05:11
matatataand start umbuntu with CD???05:11
broamYes.05:11
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matatatamy cd burner not working...now what05:11
sonaresometimes i wish compiling and installing was as simple as clicking. i know it is antithetical but adding new themes to gnome like this is overkill for some users.05:11
rjreciohi, is there any dashboard-like app instead of gdesklets?05:11
ciusrjrecio, no that I've found, and I've been looking for a while.  Not for gnome anyway, kde has its own thing05:12
thoreauputicmatatata: arghhh Please stop with the umbutu stuff05:12
broamsonare: there's always autopackage05:12
tritiummatatata, when learning, you're going to have to pay close attention to the spelling and case of commands, etc.05:12
rjreciocius, thanks!05:12
sonarebroam,  i love you.05:12
xiaogildooglus: you're fantastic! thanks a lot!...05:12
ciusrjrecio, np05:12
broamautopackage is fun!05:12
matatataubuntu05:12
dooglusxiaogil: i know :)  you're welcome!05:12
xiaogildooglus: how did you find that ?05:12
frogzooveryfunny: physically check the interfaces - Id check 1st the master/slave IDE jumpers05:12
thoreauputictritium: heh :)05:12
dooglusxiaogil: I read all the man pages in that package05:12
veryfunnywhich is more standard in HP computers IDE or SATA?05:12
_jasonmatatata, you can order free cd's from shipit but they will take a while... or if you happen to be in philadelphia I'll give you one05:12
puhello. is anyone familiar with setting up wifi in ubuntu? :)05:12
veryfunnybecause it is all still original05:12
broamIDE unless it's very very new, veryfunny05:13
Gunbladeok so I have installed pureadmin and pure-ftp, but how do you start the server and know what prots it uses etc. so I can set it all up05:13
tritiumthoreauputic, :)05:13
ciusrjrecio, you might try playing with panels in gnome, you can emulate some dashboard type stuff if you're creative.05:13
matatataI WANT one umbuntu CD for freee HOW05:13
Gunbladeports*05:13
veryfunnyok so then they are IDE05:13
matatatai live in SWEDEN05:13
dooglusxiaogil: I ran this command to step through the man pages until I found something interesting: for i in $(dpkg -L djvulibre-bin | grep /man/man1/ | cut -c21- | sed 's/.1.gz//'); do man $i; done05:13
xiaogildooglus: i was just having a look at the djvu's homepage http://djvulibre.djvuzone.org/features.html05:13
veryfunnyit is 2.5-3 years old05:13
broam!se05:13
ubotubroam: Are you on ritalin?05:13
broamNo!05:13
dooglusxiaogil: there's possibly a better way to do it, but that worked for me05:13
tritiummatatata, shipit.ubuntu.com05:13
bimberimatatata: https://shipit.ubuntu.com/05:13
matatatathanks05:13
frogzooveryfunny: either the cable is ribbon cable=IDE - or its thin 4 wire = SATA05:13
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broamveryfunny: it'll be 40 or 80 wires (don't count, it'll take too long)05:14
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veryfunnyribbon05:14
thoreauputicmatatata: if you can't correct your typing and spelling maybe ubuntu isn't for you ;-)05:14
_jasonmatatata, sorry, sweden will be too long a walk from philadelphia :P05:14
veryfunnyso IDE05:14
frogzooveryfunny: my money is that its IDE & your problem is that the IDE jumpers are wrong - very common problem05:14
veryfunnyhow do we fix this?05:14
matatatajason come to me with the CD05:14
veryfunnya hammer?05:14
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broamveryfunny: pliers, it's the only way ot pull jumpers out without fingernails05:15
_jasonmatatata, actually, if you buy me a ticket i could take a vacation to sweden05:15
dooglusxiaogil: that page would have led you to ddjvu very quickly...05:15
matatataok same climat i think so happy winter vacation05:15
frogzooveryfunny: you remove the drives - examine them for a little chart describing correct jumpering - and make sure each IDE channel has 1 max masters (or if only drive on channel) and 1 max slaves05:15
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matatatado they send me a free cd no charges at all?????05:16
tritiumyep05:16
_jasonmatatata, YES05:16
broammatatata: yes05:16
johnwhow do I get into the korn shell/05:16
johnw?05:16
veryfunnylet me see...05:16
frogzoomatatata: the CDs take some time to arrive though05:16
matatata =) =) =) = )= )= )  * 100000005:16
dooglusmatatata: they sent me 5, even though I only asked for 1.05:16
tritiumjohnm, you'll need to install it first05:16
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xiaogildooglus: yes, but still you were definetely much more quicker than me05:16
dooglusmatatata: they pay postage, too05:16
ardchoilleIs there a tut about how to install Opera somewhere? I must be missing something.05:16
matatatais it an key-code on every CD????05:16
frogzoo!opera05:16
ubotuOpera isn't in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and get then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser05:16
ardchoillethanks frogzoo05:17
tritiummatatata, it's free -- no need for a key code05:17
dooglusmatatata: ubuntu is free - there's no need for a key05:17
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matatataok05:17
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broam!shipit05:17
ubotu[shipit]  For free ubuntu CDs, visit https://shipit.ubuntu.com/05:17
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Madpilotmatatata: when you get your CDs, there's even a note on them encouraging you to copy them!05:17
xiaogildooglus: do you think that converting those images into jpeg will alterate the quality ?05:17
matatataununtu koncept is relly good freedom to people!!!05:17
veryfunnyso you say there will be a chart on the drive?05:17
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johnwwhere can I download the korn shell?05:17
tritiumxiaogil, jpeg is lossy, so yes05:17
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broamxiaogil: I do not doubt that converting those to jpeg will alterate the quality.  JPEG is lossy, so yes05:17
dooglusxiaogil: yes.  jpeg is 'lossy'.  if you use pnm instead you'll lose nothing.05:17
dooglusbroam: I think you can tell jpeg to be non-lossy - is that true?05:18
veryfunnytime to get some pliers and i'll be back05:18
_jason!pdksh05:18
ubotu_jason: Not a clue05:18
_jason!info pdksh05:18
ubotupdksh: (A public domain version of the Korn shell), section shells, is optional. Version: 5.2.14-19 (breezy), Packaged size: 252 kB, Installed size: 436 kB05:18
Madpilotdooglus: not that I've ever heard - try saving as tiff or png if you want none-lossy05:18
broamveryfunny: Yes.  There's a chart on the drive.  And the pliers--you want needlenose05:18
xiaogilif any browser can read pnm, then that will be fine to me05:18
frogzooveryfunny: a chart/label - or just a stripe on the connector with 'C' 'S 'M - the C is cable select, S=slave, M=master05:18
broamdooglus: if you set quality to 100 you can get it very very close05:18
broamdooglus: but it's not perfect, no05:19
tritiumnothing is, though05:19
johnwthanks05:19
xiaogildooglus: 7.4 MB for the PNM image!! that's amazing...05:19
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broamGuys, I'd love to stay and chat05:20
broambut my girlfriend is threatening to take away my boob supply05:20
sonareis there anyway to bypass the "run, display, terminal run, cancel" dialogue when double-clicking anything that isn't a folder or native app? for example, text files. >:|05:20
_jasonbroam, i think it's understandable05:20
broamLaterz05:20
rjreciohow can I set up centrino scalable frequency options?05:20
_jasonsonare, yes, check the options05:21
matatatahow to save this CHANNEL i am no good with MIRC05:21
Madpilotsonare: there should be a "don't ask me again" checkbox somewhere on the popup?05:21
Falstiusmy wife doesn't have a boob supply :(05:21
rjrecioon fedora I use /etc/cpuspeed.conf05:21
The_Isle_of_Markdid someone say boobs?05:21
_jasonsonare, edit > preferences > behavior05:21
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sonareMadpilot: no.. :(05:21
xiaogilfirefox can't display pnm image, what none lossy image format should i use then ?05:21
Madpilotxiaogil: png05:22
Falstiusrjrecio: on my machine ubuntu is doing it automatically.05:22
dooglusMadpilot: check this: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/javascript/2003/11/14/digphoto_ckbk.html -- non-lossy jpg.05:22
frogzoomatatata: save as?05:22
xiaogilMadpilot: ok, thanks05:22
Madpilotsonare: hmm, I remember fixing that months ago when I first installed ubuntu, can't remember how, though05:22
dooglusxiaogil: pnm is a text-based format - take a look at the file with "head -100 file.pnm" and you'll see it looks like C source code.05:22
tritiumdooglus, jpeg2000 is quite different from jpeg05:22
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rjrecioFalstius, I know, but I want to customize it, for example, in cpuspeed I use an option that when power state is AC, the cpu clock works on fullspeed05:22
dooglusxiaogil: sorry - don't.  it's not ascii and it'll mess up your terminal...05:23
matatataLaunchpad will be going offline for maintenance in 15 minutes.05:23
matatatai cant register+?05:23
dooglustritium: right.05:23
frogzoomy lappie has no brightness controls - suggestions for software to set it?05:23
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Falstiusrjrecio: ahh ... should be in the config for acpid05:23
rjreciowhen is on battery, it sets clock to minimum and just increase it on demand05:23
Madpilotdooglus: interesting, but from jpeg2000 != jpg, from what I read there05:24
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cfh_devI'm using a usb ethernet adapter and can't seem to ping localhost.  I don't have eth0 up.  Any thoughts?05:24
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sonaredrivers05:24
frogzoocfh_dev: surely its not eth0 you want - usb0? or something ?05:24
sonareha yes05:24
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cfh_devfrogzoo: right, the usb thing is on rausb005:25
frogzoocfh_dev: correct settings in /etc/network/interfaces ?05:25
rjrecioFalstius, you meant /etc/acpi?05:25
rjreciofound nothing there ;(05:25
dooglusxiaogil: using -format=rle makes a very small file - but the gimp won't open it...05:25
matatatathanks for all help you all05:26
cfh_devfrogzoo: What kind of setting are you referencing?  I'm able to access the internet using this adapter, if that tells anything.05:26
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matatatai will try out ubundo thans to YOU05:26
tritiumgood luck, matatata05:26
matatatacya later05:26
matatatathanks05:27
The_Isle_of_Markanyone in here help me with umfufu linox?05:27
frogzoocfh_dev: settings for localhost (and all networks ifs) are set in /etc/network/interfaces - take a look, ull see what I mean05:27
cfh_devfrogzoo: I don't see anything about localhost, just the loopback and other pertinent network stuff05:27
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puwould anyone be so kind to help me out with this guide to set up wifi in ubuntu?05:27
The_Isle_of_Markor is it uboongu?05:27
rebortThe_Isle_of_Mark: what is Umfufu Linux?05:28
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cfh_devfrogzoo: I have eth0 and rausb0 in there set with dhcp05:28
Falstiusahh, sweet tranquility.05:28
rebortThe_Isle_of_Mark: oh I see05:28
The_Isle_of_Markrebort, just a little fun05:28
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thoreauputicThe_Isle_of_Mark: troll alert!  *grin*05:28
rebortThe_Isle_of_Mark: i was wondering :)05:28
The_Isle_of_Markheheh05:28
bob832how can i get a more detailed summary of a clamav scan. such as a log?05:29
frogzoocfh_dev: unless Im mistaken, the  loopback is localhost?05:29
The_Isle_of_Markpu laptop?05:29
Muldywhere would i go to request new things for the next ubuntu releaes05:29
dooglusxiaogil: saving as a .pnm and then running "convert image.pnm image.png" makes a smaller file, losslessly. (1.9Mb).05:29
dooglusMuldy: bugzilla.ubuntu.com05:29
puyes isle05:29
rjreciowill firefox 1.5 be available on ubuntu repos?05:29
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The_Isle_of_Markpu what card?05:29
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Muldydooglus, cheers05:29
punetgear ma52105:29
cfh_devfrogzoo: for some reason, iface lo wasn't up05:29
rjrecioanyone knows ? :P05:29
thoreauputicrjrecio: only if someone backports it05:29
Amaranthrjrecio: It won't be available for breezy unless you download it from mozilla.com05:29
The_Isle_of_Markpu and are you using breezy?05:29
xiaogildooglus: thanks!!05:29
puyes05:29
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_jasonubotu, tell rjrecio about ffbackport05:30
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pui am using this guide05:30
frogzoocfh_dev: another satisfied customer ;)05:30
puhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com//SetupNdiswrapperHowto05:30
The_Isle_of_Markpu ok did you get the drivers for xp?05:30
dooglusAmaranth: it should appear in breezy-backports at some point I'd expect05:30
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Amaranthrjrecio: Too many things that use firefox (yelp, the help browser; epiphany, the gnome web browser; etc) break if you replace 1.0.7 with 1.505:30
pui think the problem lies in step 6/7 of the first part05:30
rebortdooglus: it will when it's in dapper05:30
Amaranthdooglus: Not without rebuilding half the system.05:30
odla1.5rc3 is sweet05:30
rjrecioright, thanks!05:30
fecan anyone give me a quick remedy?  i'm trying to look at /media/hdc1 (my win partition) as a user, but i don't have the permissions, and when i try to sudo/chmod it, it says i can't change the permissions then, either, because it's read only05:30
pubecause it says if i use "make deb".. two packages will result.. and i only see one05:30
rjrecioso I will keep my little 1.0.705:30
rjrecio;>05:30
puthe first one of the two05:30
feand just going into su in ubuntu seems out of the question :p05:30
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dooglus1.50 final seems to crash a lot more than the release candidates did.05:31
puand yes, i have the drivers for both xp and 200005:31
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The_Isle_of_Markpu I think compiling is silly for that. you should do it with apt-get05:31
Amaranthodla: 1.5rc3 == 1.505:31
frogzoo!tell fe about windows05:31
Madpilotfe: "sudo chmod <whatever>" - with the space, not a /05:31
The_Isle_of_Markpu you want me to walk you through it?05:31
frogzoo!tell fe about ntfs05:31
pui would very much appreciate it05:31
odlaAmaranth: really?  but i am running 1.4.99rc3 Deer Park05:31
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Muldy1.5 has memory leaks in it, and so does 1.005:31
puthe problem is, i have no connection to the laptop right now05:32
Muldymozilla need to majorly overhaul fiefox05:32
puthis computer i'm using now is wireless as well05:32
frogzoobesides, 1.5 will break all your plugins for no tangible advantage05:32
AmaranthMuldy: Not memory leaks, bad malloc05:32
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FalstiusFe, you need to change the options in /etc/fstab05:32
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veryfunnyback05:32
_jasonfrogzoo, that's not true05:32
xiaogildooglus: do you have a suggestion for the pnm/png conversion tool ?05:32
MuldyAmaranth, explain bad malloc?05:32
dooglusfrogzoo: it is a lot faster, particularly the forward/back operation05:32
dooglusxiaogil: "convert"05:32
The_Isle_of_Markpu do from a terminal type sudo install ndiswrapper-utils05:32
dooglusxiaogil: part of image magick05:32
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gandiranyone know about a posible solution to my problem? I cannot connect to my windows xp machine over my local lan it does not accept my login, even if the username and password are correct are there any kind of settings i need to use to make it to authenticate on a windows xp pro machine?05:32
feFalstius, which05:33
frogzoo_jason: what about flash? ra? mpeg? etc ?05:33
durtfrogzoo: how does it break plugins?05:33
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pusays.. too few arguments05:33
_jasonfrogzoo, idk what ra is but the others work for me05:33
AmaranthMuldy: Let's say firefox is using |||||||||| (memory) and frees some of it so it's only using ||0000000| (0 is non-used). The free parts count against firefox until that last used part is freed.05:33
fworpdoes anyone here own an external usb modem? ive been looking for a usb/pcmcia 56k modem for my powerbook, and most of the online listings are full of modems that are no longer being sold, the companies have gone bankrupt, alien abductions, etc etc. So i was trying to find a living breathing person who has one (and preferably is using it now) to leech some information from05:33
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frogzoo_jason: ra would be real audio05:33
The_Isle_of_Markpu do from a terminal type sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils oops05:33
thoreauputicor aptitude ...05:33
_jasonfrogzoo, i don't thnik i've used it but since the mplayer-plugin is working fine with everything else it probably works fine too05:34
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Falstiusfe, I have: /dev/sdb1       /drives/knox    ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0222     0       005:34
dooglusAmaranth: if that memory has been freed, it should be reusable by firefox05:34
xiaogildooglus: excellent!05:34
puk done but says it's already the newest version05:34
veryfunnyfrogzoo, i set the read only drives to master and the burner to slave.05:34
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MuldyAmaranth, see, i think it goes beyodn that, because i've noticed that the memory keeps growing and growing. if what you were saying were true, the next time someone someone malloc'd, some of those 0's would be allocated i assume? but no, firefox just asks for more ram.05:34
veryfunnyfrogzoo, still no luck05:34
puthe problem i get is with modprobe.. has FATAL: something..05:34
frogzoodurt: _jason I stand corrected - 1.5 apparently doesnt cause problems for plugins05:34
rjrecioeverytime that I access my win partition from ubuntu, when I boot windows I have to check it... anyone knows why? I mount it read-only05:35
feFalstius, thx, that umask tag worked05:35
frogzooveryfunny: a chart/label - or just a stripe on the connector with 'C' 'S 'M - the C is cable select, S=slave, M=master05:35
The_Isle_of_Markpu ok great, have you unzipped the windows drivers somewhere?05:35
puyes05:35
puhome/driver/05:35
dooglusMuldy: did you try running it under valgrind to find out which routine is leaking?05:35
The_Isle_of_Markpu is that /home/<username>/driver?05:35
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pushould i use the 2000 or XP drivers?05:35
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frogzooveryfunny: please describe the layout? are both drives on the 1 cable?05:35
Muldydooglus, havent tried it in linux yet, just windows and been monitoring it through taskman.  i've seen on bugzilla people reporting the same with linux releases05:36
Muldy<Muldy> Amaranth, see, i think it goes beyodn that, because i've noticed that the memory keeps growing and growing. if what you were saying were true, the next time someone someone malloc'd, some of those 0's would be allocated i assume? but no, firefox just asks for more ram.05:36
puw/ <username> i think05:36
veryfunnyyes both on one05:36
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puyes.. w/ username05:36
AmaranthMuldy: No, no one else can use them until firefox gives up that last |05:36
The_Isle_of_Markpu ok what is the .inf file in the folder?05:36
PabloI am on a lappy and I was wondering how to get it to recognize my hotswap cd drive once I slide it in?05:36
frogzooveryfunny: so you need one drive labelled as master (preferably DVD) and the CD as slave05:36
dooglusMuldy: the most recent release doesn't suffer from the problem for me.  It doesn't stay up long enough to grow to an unweildy size :)05:36
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puNETMA521.inf05:37
AmaranthMuldy: But yeah, firefox does eat a lot of RAM holding the cache entirely in ram.05:37
dooglusAmaranth: I think you're missing his point.  firefox itself can reuse memory that it has freed05:37
veryfunnyfrogzoo, the top drive is a CD/DVD only and the bottom is CD-RW/DVD-RW05:37
pudoes it matter if i use the XP versus the 2000 drivers?05:37
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Amaranthdooglus: It does.05:37
Muldyyeah nevermind returning the ram to the OS05:37
pubecause i have both.05:37
The_Isle_of_Markpu ok linux is case-sensitive so do a sudo ndiswrapper -h and tell me what it says05:37
Muldylet me describe my problem more clearly05:37
Amaranthdooglus: You'll notice memory usage eventually levels out.05:37
whyameyeI made a change in /boot/grub/menu.lst which is preventing my ubuntu Breezy from booting. I undid the change by booting a live ubuntu CD but I don't know how to run update-grub for the hard drive from the live CD...so the hard drive still won't boot. Any suggestions?05:37
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veryfunnyfrogzoo, the CD/DVD is now the master and the CD-RW/DVD-RW is now the slave05:37
AmaranthMuldy: But firefox does hold the entire cache in RAM.05:37
frogzooveryfunny: and then both drives should appear in the bios - usually jumper the fastest drive as master, here I dont think it makes any difference05:37
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PabloI am on a lappy and I was wondering how to get it to recognize my hotswap cd drive once I slide it in?05:37
AmaranthMuldy: So if you have broadband and bandwidth to spare kill the cache.05:38
The_Isle_of_Markpu I meant sudo ndiswrapper -l not h05:38
veryfunnyfrogzoo, do i have to change anything in the bios?05:38
dooglusAmaranth: it holds the memory cache in RAM, and the disk cache on disk...  much like any other browser05:38
veryfunnyforgzoo, or is it automatic?05:38
frogzooPablo: if its usb, it should just happen automagically05:38
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dooglusAmaranth: unless it gets swapped out, of course.  then it's on the swap partition.05:38
puit says Installed ndis drivers:....etc..... driver present, hardware present05:38
seth_k|lappywhyameye, this wiki page will help you recover GRUB: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows05:38
MuldyYou open firefox.  You run a few tabs for different sites.  You close those tabs. You open more tabs to view more sites.  More googling, etc.  6 hours down the track, you have only 1 tab in firefox set on some .txt site, yet it's allocated iteslf 130mb of ram, and each new tab increases memory allocations from the OS05:38
The_Isle_of_Markpu more specific please05:38
puok05:38
frogzooveryfunny: you need to go into drive detect in bios - after youve set the jumpers properly - is that done?05:38
pulooks like this.. first line..05:38
puInstalled ndis drivers:05:39
Muldyif that's not a memory leak, then that's a bloody bad "feature"05:39
pusecond line is..05:39
veryfunnyfrogzoo, nope...shall do that now05:39
punetma521                     driver present, hardware present05:39
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bob832anyone know where clamav stores its scan logs?05:39
durtpu: looks good to me05:39
Pablofrogzoo, it is a hotswap cd drive that plugs in a media bay on meh lappy05:39
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whyameyeseth_k|lappy, I just went to the web page you mention. All of the commands are blank. Am I missing a font or something?05:39
dooglusMuldy: I've seen the same.  No tabs open, and huge memory usage.  Could be that it's using 130Mb of cache in RAM, but I doubt it.05:39
The_Isle_of_Markpu great, ok do sudo ifconfig wlan0 up05:39
AmaranthMuldy: Yeah, it doesn't like to free RAM but it doesn't use more, it'll reuse that 130mb.05:39
frogzooPablo: drop in a CD & see what happens05:39
MuldyAmaranth, but it doesnt reuse it it allocates more.05:39
Pablook05:39
durthe needs to modprobe ndiswrapper first05:39
Muldyit keeps allocating ore05:39
AmaranthMuldy: To be honest most linux apps like to eat up all the ram they can, it's just the way it is.05:40
pusays... "wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device"05:40
MuldyAmaranth, yeah but this is just ridiculous05:40
Muldydooglus, i agree.05:40
durtpu: modprobe ndiswrapper05:40
AmaranthMuldy: For firefox 2.0 gecko is basically getting rewritten so hopefully this will get cleaned up.05:40
seth_k|lappywhyameye, odd. I've copied it to pastebin for you: http://pastebin.com/45053005:40
Pablofrogzoo, nothing happens05:40
Pablo:\05:40
pumodprobe is the problem i am having..05:40
Muldydooglus, someone else i've talked to thinks it's memory leaks in the gdk_pixmap code05:40
AmaranthMuldy: They're getting rid of a _lot_ of dead code and switching to cairo for all rendering.05:40
AmaranthMuldy: dead == unmaintained05:41
The_Isle_of_Markpu I thought you had done that :) ok try sudo modprobe ndiswrapper and tell me the output05:41
MuldyAmaranth, i hope so, cause apart from this, 1.5 is pretty decent.05:41
puok.. here it is.. "FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted"05:41
dooglusMuldy: try disabling the browser.cache.memory.enable preference - that'll disable the RAM cache.  Does it still leak?05:41
frogzooPablo: suggest google with drive name & ubuntu05:41
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Pablook05:41
PabloI will just reboot05:41
puthat's where things get messed up..05:41
AmaranthMuldy: The architectural reorganization plan is an awesome read.05:41
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Pabloit works if it is in when I boot it frogzoo05:42
Muldydooglus, i'll tell you in about 6 hours :)05:42
AmaranthMuldy: But it's spread out along about 5 different blog posts.05:42
dooglusMuldy: OK...  I'll be sleeping then, but I'll still be idling here.05:42
Pablobrb05:42
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The_Isle_of_Markpu ok one sec05:42
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puand i think it has something to do with... "dpkg -i --force-overwrite ndiswrapper-modules-$(uname -r)_1.6-1.i386.deb"05:42
MuldyAmaranth, hmmm okay. dont they have a concise roadmap somewhere/05:42
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MichaelCan someone tell me how to give read (or read-write) permissions to one of my windows partitions?05:43
lysishey is there a reason my center channel doesn't have any audio coming out of it ever? i'm missing audio from the center channel in dvd's05:43
AmaranthMuldy: Not that I know of, but it might have been migrated to the wiki.05:43
durtpu: wow, wtf is that05:43
_jasonubotu, tell Michael about mountwindows05:43
pudon't know durt :(05:43
frogzoo!tell Michael about ntfs05:43
puit's step 6 & 7 from here..https://wiki.ubuntu.com//SetupNdiswrapperHowto05:43
whyameyeseth_k|lappy, thanks. I'm going over it now...05:44
pubut that's just my guess?05:44
MuldyAmaranth, ah ok. cause i know they did have a roadmap website but it was very vague. not nearly as comprehensive as openoffice's one05:44
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veryfunnyfrogzoo, the BIOS configuration is first channel master -> 120gb HD, first channel slave -> none, second channel master ->Optical Reader (CD/DVD), second channel slave Optical Writer (CD-RW/DVD-RW), third channel master and slave => none05:44
durtpu: what is the output after "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"?05:44
veryfunnyfrogzoo, that matches the jumper also05:44
The_Isle_of_Markpu what was the file name again?05:45
puok, the exact output after modprobe is ""FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted05:45
frogzooveryfunny: so both drives should be accessible - as /dev/hdc and /dev/hdd - probably need appropriate entries in /etc/fstab Id guess05:45
veryfunnyhow do i correct that?05:45
durtpu: apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` and see if that does anything05:46
frogzooveryfunny: paste the line for /dev/hdc05:46
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The_Isle_of_Markpu what exaxtly...cut and paste...is the output of sudo ndiswrapper -l?05:46
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pui can't cut and paste, because it's on the laptop05:47
pubut it says on the first line "Installed ndis drivers:"05:47
veryfunnyfrogzoo, says permission denied as sudo05:47
The_Isle_of_Markpu ok be case sensitive on the driver present05:47
frogzoopu usb key?05:47
puand on the second line.. "netma521             driver present, hardware present"05:47
puthat's all05:47
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frogzooveryfunny: grep hdc /etc/fstab05:47
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durtpu: that part is fine - your having kernel/module problems05:48
veryfunny/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       005:48
bob832nm, found my answer05:48
durtpu: make sure you have the restricted modules installed05:48
veryfunnyfrogzoo /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       005:48
puso it does have to do with that line from step 7 on that tutorial?05:48
slewhi, i want to monitor the cpu temprature, i have lm_sensors installed but it seems not to work, what do i need to do to make this work?05:49
pundiswrapper-modules-$(uname -r)_1.1-1_i386.deb05:49
puthat one ^05:49
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MichaelThat script mounted EVERYTHING but the partition I needed05:49
The_Isle_of_Markpu yes05:49
frogzooveryfunny: use 'sudo vi /etc/fstab' to add this line "/dev/hdd        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0" - then "sudo mkdir /media/cdrom1 ; mount -a"05:49
pui used "make deb" and the tutorial said it was supposed to create two .deb but i only got one05:49
puso i don't know how to get that second part05:50
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The_Isle_of_Markpu remove ndiswrapper and then re-install it with apt and try again. the version with breezy is05:50
The_Isle_of_Mark!info ndiswrapper05:50
veryfunnyfrogzoo, where do i add it?05:50
puhow do i remove?05:50
frogzooveryfunny: just under the hdc line in /etc/fstab05:50
pushould i start Ubuntu from scratch?05:51
The_Isle_of_Mark1.1-4ubuntu205:51
The_Isle_of_Markpu it might be easier05:51
bob832is ubuntu considered debian 2.1 or debian 3+  ?05:51
The_Isle_of_Markpu but you dont have to05:51
pui don't mind05:51
frogzoobob832: its not considered debian at all05:51
rebortbob832: probably 3+, but its not really debian in any sense05:52
The_Isle_of_Markpu then that would clean it out, if it was a fresh install, that is what I would do05:52
puso, lets say i had a fresh install and the windows drivers on a USB drive05:52
puwhat steps would i take to install?05:52
rebortbob832: there are many things you can read on the relationship search for it05:52
bob832oh, i thought it was a derivative of debian05:52
rebortbob2: it is05:52
The_Isle_of_Markpu sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils, let it fix depency issues, then follow the tutorial from step05:53
rebortaddress that to bob83205:53
bob832rebort:  alright, i am going to have to do that, thanks05:53
The_Isle_of_Markpu step 1 of installing windows drivers05:53
veryfunnyfrogzoo, it just beeps when i try typing05:53
The_Isle_of_Markpu got that?05:54
puyes sir, but it will take a while to re-install :)05:54
The_Isle_of_Markpu sokay, I have to go anyway...midnight here05:54
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puthank you very much for your help05:54
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pui think once i get wireless working, i can work my way through ubuntu05:55
The_Isle_of_Markpu np...oh and use wifi-radar for managing wireless connections, pretty nice05:55
puok05:55
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a|sohello people05:55
a|soi need some help..05:56
veryfunnyfrogzoo, i tried copy pasting that in terminal and it just beeped05:56
a|soi just ran up the live ubuntu cd05:56
a|sobut i cant run any programs that i download05:56
a|sowhy is that05:56
reborta|so: how so05:56
a|soit says cant open05:56
frogzooveryfunny: if you press 'dd' inside vi, it will delete the line, then push 'pp' to paste the line twice 'then position the cursor over c and press 'rd' to replace the c with d - do the same for drive0 to make it drive 105:56
a|sosomething like that.. i tried to download skype05:56
a|soi even tried up with various other programs nothing installs..05:56
ardchoille!plf05:56
ubotuI haven't a clue, ardchoille05:56
a|sojut note that am using a live cd.05:56
a|sojust*05:57
ardchoille:(05:57
a|soits my first time on this os..and looks pretty good..05:57
puone question... should i use the XP drivers or the windows 2000 drivers?05:57
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ardchoilleAnyone know how to add the plf Ubuntu repos to sources.list?05:57
reborta|so: where are you downloading these programs fromZ05:57
frogzooa|so: once you start using the pkg manager, you start to like ubuntu it more05:57
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MichaelThanks for the script frogzoo or ubotu05:58
MichaelI edited it and got it work05:58
slewhi, i want to monitor the cpu temprature, i have lm_sensors installed but it seems not to work, what do i need to do to make this work?05:58
Madpilotslew: you need to install ksensors or xsensors to get desktop display working05:58
slewMadpilot, thanks homie05:59
a|soi dont even know what pkg manager is.. am not really that into computers.. but a friend of mine.. promotes linux back in maldives.. thats where am from.. and he said to try it out..since its very stable..and.. well i refused to use it for a long time.. saying that.. if this was better.. why  are almost everyone using windows.. anyways gave it a shot today..and it works wonderful.05:59
Madpilotlm_sensors doesn't have a front-end display mode05:59
veryfunnyfrogzoo, i got up to here "'then position the cursor over c and press 'rd' to replace the c with d - do the same for drive0 to make it drive 105:59
a|soi went to .. www.skype.com and tried to the debian version download05:59
veryfunnyfrogzoo, over which c?05:59
a|sodo you think that.. maybe since am using a live version.. i cant download anything ?05:59
frogzoo!tell a|so about synaptic05:59
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a|sowhat is synaptic ?06:00
reborta|so: you can install thinsg on the live version but you really should install to a hard disk for that06:00
frogzoo!synaptic06:00
ubotuhmm... synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto06:00
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reborta|so: synaptic is a package management (aka installation/removal program) that is in the administration menu06:00
reborta|so: look https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Skype?highlight=%28skype%29 for skype installation help06:01
n00bmasterhey, ubuntu wont find my isa nics06:01
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whyameyewhen adding support for hibernation in Breezy, how do I know what disk partition to put in the #kopts line?06:01
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frogzoon00bmaster: isa nics will need irqs/io defined for the drivers cos its not P&P06:01
n00bmasterok06:01
veryfunnyfrogzoo, this is what i have >> http://pastebin.com/45055806:01
khalifHey, I'm trying to apply a patch to my kernal. How can I find out what folder my source is stored in? Someone suggested I install linux headers for my version, which I did, but I don't know what to do after that.06:02
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reborta|so: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto is a better howto06:02
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n00bmasterWhat will I need to install, because it is refusing to install with file not found errors06:02
frogzooveryfunny: now use the 'r' command to change one line to "/dev/hdc    /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto  0   0"06:03
rebortkhalif: source is in /usr/src/linux i believe, what do you need a patch for?06:03
alekzwhy i cant print on gimp? anything happends :S06:03
whyameyewhen I hibernate to disk, where are the RAM pages stored?06:03
frogzoo!tell whyameye about cups06:03
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whyameyefrogzoo, isn't cups about printing?06:03
n00bmastertypo06:03
khalifI'm installing a bootsplash for my box. I looked in usr/src, but i didn't see anything for my linux kernal.06:03
veryfunnyfrogzoo, this >> http://pastebin.com/45056206:04
frogzoosrc whyameye, meant alekz06:04
frogzoo!tell alekz about printing06:04
alekzfrogzoo, i can print on any other aplication :S06:05
XiCillinis it hard to set up ubuntu on a 64-bit dual core processor?06:05
XiCillinor should it detect it06:05
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frogzooveryfunny: probly now a reboot & everything should work06:05
cyberHello to all06:05
cybersomebody that speak Spanish?06:05
veryfunnyfrogzoo, do i have to save?06:05
triple5si un poquito06:06
mohadhi there06:06
frogzooveryfunny: yup 'wq'06:06
Madpilot!es06:06
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.06:06
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veryfunnyfrogzoo, then close terminal?06:06
veryfunnyfrogzoo, sorry this is my first time in vi06:07
frogzooveryfunny: did you 'mkdir /mnt/cdrom1' ?06:07
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veryfunnyfrogzoo, no06:07
mohadcan anybody help me how to install BBX-Mercury-l theme06:07
frogzooveryfunny: sry,'sudo mkdir media/cdrom1'06:07
veryfunnyfrogzoo, i am still looking at etc/fstab..should that go away? or do i need to open a new terminal?06:08
paul__hi guys, wondering if someone can assist me. I've installed the amd64 5.1 version of ubuntu. I have an issue loading into the desktop. I can get the intial login screen, enter my username and password, i hear a sound, and then i just stays on a blank screen06:08
frogzooveryfunny: then 'ls -l /media/cd*'06:08
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paul__i'm tried all the different "session" options, and none of them seem to work, all the same symptoms.06:08
frogzooveryfunny: 'wq' should write & close the vi session - if it reporting errors, you dont have write permission - did you use sudo?06:08
paul__My pc specs at 2gig ram AMD X2 4000, geforce 6800/7800 ( not sure)06:09
Hoxzerhow do I make file writable to all users?06:09
veryfunnyfrogzoo, yes i use sudo, when i type w it says recording, but q does nothing06:09
Kibou..06:09
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paul__Hoxzer: chmod06:09
morphixhmm.. i cant seem to get nvidia drivers to install anymore :(06:09
khalifpaul_: Theres a bug with the ubuntu version for pc's. Reboot your box06:09
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frogzooalekz:  probly gimp prints as postscript so youl need postscript enabled06:09
morphixcan someone help.06:09
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morphixplz./06:09
alekzfrogzoo, how can i enable it ?06:10
khalifat the GRUB menu press esc when prompted06:10
paul__ok06:10
paul__and then?.06:10
khalifFind your boot version in the menu (it's should be the first one)06:10
whyameyetrying to get hibernation to work on my Dell. I get "resume= option should be used to set suspend device" then it freezes. I assume this is for the /boot/grub/menu.lst. How do I know what option to put in, though? Tried hda2 and it was a disaster....06:10
paul__yerp. and then? :)06:11
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khalifI think its the second line on the next menu, but you'll see something referred to boot...06:11
XiCillinany experience bugs when restarting the computer? (shuting down gnome?)06:11
frogzooveryfunny: sry, I can't teach you vi like this - suggest you try http://database.sarang.net/study/vim/HOWTO/Vim-HOWTO-7.html#ss7.106:11
khalifhighlight that and press "e" to edit it.06:11
paul__yep, what do i change.06:12
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Muldyheh06:12
Muldynevermind 6 hours of use06:12
Muldyi've clocked up 60mb already06:12
Muldyand i only have the apache howto and aandtech up06:13
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paul__what am i editing khalif heh06:13
khalifWhen the edit screen appears, use the arrow keys to move all the way to the end of the line, press spacebar and then type the word "irqpoll". after that press "b" to boot and then everything should be ok.06:13
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douthatwhat is the color PS1 setup in ubuntu?06:13
SpYdErXxHi guys06:13
paul__k06:13
SpYdErXxnew with ubuntu ;)06:13
khalifDon't type the quotes, just irqpoll06:13
paul__i'll be back in 5 minutes with the result06:14
SpYdErXxwussup06:14
khalifHold up a sec!06:14
khalifDamn!06:14
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ordinaryHow do I change mp3 files to wav files with a command line?  what program do I use anbd where do I get it?06:14
khalifI wanted to tell him that ever so often irqpoll gets knocked out and that he'll have to re-edit the boot line to add it back in....06:15
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munzirhi sirs, when  the client/resolver query for DNS records, where are those cached? how can one flush them?06:15
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a|sothis is what it says skype:06:16
a|so Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>=3:3.3.3.2) but it is not installable06:16
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polpakmunzir, it depends on the client. Typically they are cached on the name servers themselves06:16
thedevilsjesterHow do I restore grub onto my MBR from within a 5.10 live cd?06:16
polpakmunzir, but many browsers will cache dns results until the browser is restarted06:17
frogzooalekz try this link http://packages.ubuntu.org.cn/breezy/graphics/cupsys-driver-gimpprint06:17
munzirpolpak: for example I am using linux and queried using dig06:17
alekzthanks frogzoo :)06:17
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polpakmunzir, dig does not cache the results06:17
polpakmunzir, the name server you are querying might06:17
douthati have kind of a noobish question: how can I find out which packages I have installed aren't part of sarge stable?06:17
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ryan__how do I install a .deb file?  I forgot06:18
polpakdpkg -i file.deb06:18
frogzooryan__: dpkg -r blah06:18
douthatryan__: dpkg -i06:18
ryan__thanks06:18
frogzoo*-i* (needs glasses)06:18
puis there a recommended "switching to ubuntu from windows" guide?06:19
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gleesondis there a way to upgrade from worty to hoary without reinstalling?06:19
khalifI see a folder called boot with some files that are names after my kernal version. Could this folder be where the my source is stored?06:19
munzirpolpak: when I use dig for example to do queries, I got an ANSWER SECTION with the name of the domain and a TTL value. That value means if the domain change its ip for example dig will still give that old value until the TTL expires and then it would query the NS again, you got me?06:20
_jasonI installed freenx, will this startup automatically when I reboot?  How can I check if it is currently running (I dont have access to a windows machine right now)?06:20
whyameyewhere is the swap partition?06:21
frogzoogleesond: I believe you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryUpgrade06:21
thedevilsjesterI am in a Breezy Live CD, how do I restore grub onto my MBR from it?06:21
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frogzoogleesond: then afterwards, upgrade to breezy - but dont miss the middle step (Hoary)06:21
ordinaryubuntubuntubuntubun06:22
ordinaryubuntubuns...06:22
ordinarylets make a new kind of pastry and then opensource it06:22
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veryfunnyfrogzoo, i figured out the vi stuff and did 'mkdir /media/cdrom1' then 'ls -l /media/cd*'06:24
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mobrienhi, i've got a weird samba issue that i hope someone could give me some advice with.  I've been going nuts for a few days06:24
Hoxzerhow do I use chmod to make file readtable and writable to certain user?06:24
veryfunnyfrogzoo, it gave me this:  lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    6 2005-12-05 21:24 /media/cdrom -> cdrom006:24
veryfunnytotal 006:24
veryfunnytotal 006:24
mobrienall my needed ports are open to my lan 137-139 and 445, but sometimes I can't browse any shares (local or remote)06:25
_jasonHoxzer, you can modify owner, group, and all.  to make the owner have read and write: chmod u+rx file06:25
a|soinstalling skype..is more like doing a huge program.. is there any tool which could be a useful replacement for voice chat in ubuntu ?06:25
mobrienwhen I do nmblookup -M -- - I get ""name_query failed to find name   __MSBROWSE__ #01"06:25
veryfunnyfrogzoo, i meant this >> http://pastebin.com/45058206:26
mobrientried forcing master browser = yes in the conf, no luck06:26
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limguohong91I am using gnomad2 but when I connect to my mp3 it saud USB_SET_Confrigation: Operation not permitted06:28
limguohong91May I know how can i fix this?06:28
Hoxzer_jason: ok, how do I change the owner?06:28
_jasonHoxzer, chown username file06:29
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veryfunnyGrrrrr06:29
veryfunnydamn optical drives06:29
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veryfunnyhell im going to bed06:30
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paul--hello, i came here 5 or so minutes ago, i've got an issue loading into the gnome, after putting in my username/password,i hear a sound and see a blank background and it just sits there.06:31
NoobIntroubleHaving Trouble getting Wine to install in Ubuntu...tryed apt-get install wine. advised package not found.. why?06:31
munzirpolpak: thanks a lot I got it now06:31
paul--someone mentioend i tried putting irqpoll at the end of the boot line, but that didnt seem to work at all,06:31
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paul--perhaps i'm adding the 'irqpoll' to the wrong line, i cant seem to find anything about it on the net.06:33
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a|sommm where do i find my hard disks ?06:34
veryfunnyplaces>computer06:35
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dreameryou find your hard disk inside your tower06:36
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sethkdreamer, I found one of mine in the garbage, but that's because I put it there yesterday06:36
pucan i ask somebody here a question about ndiswrapper?06:36
phyburnhello i was wounder if there way any way to install Ubuntu with the installer but I need to set up special peramiters because i already have gentoo on it06:36
phyburninstaller cd*06:37
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zoexiipu, maybe06:37
puwhich drivers should i use? win xp or win 2000?06:37
a|soam nt able to access any of my hard disks.. i went to system and disks it says inaccessable and i tried to enable but nothing happens06:37
sethkphyburn, if you mean do your own partitioning and destination selection, sure06:37
sethkphyburn, use expert mode06:37
phyburnkk06:37
phyburnthanks06:37
phyburnhow would i boot into that06:37
Dr_Willisa|so,  you are refering to your WIndows drives?06:37
paul--grr tried irqpoll, still cant login to gnome, just gets stuck :(06:37
zoexiipu, whichever works...  right now I use the XP driver for my card, and it works.  I've never tried the 200006:38
puwhat do u think i should use zoexii?06:38
phyburnsethk, do i just boot normal or do I need to do some thing before it boots normal06:38
puic, thanks06:38
puwhat kind of card do u have?06:38
zoexiipu, try one, if it doen't work, try the other,06:38
zoexiipu, dwl 122 usb06:38
zoexiipu, Dlink that is...06:39
a|sono.. am running live ubuntu for the first time.. and i cant check on any of my hard disks..which are in ntfs format..  well one of the partition has windows on it.. but two other partitions has songs on it06:39
zoexiia|so, mount them, System>administration>disks06:39
puthank you zoexii06:39
phyburndoes any one know how to boot into expert mode with the installer CD06:40
Dr_Willisa|so,  its not mounting them automaticially aparently. You could mount them manually in 'read' only .06:40
Dr_Willisphyburn,  every time I see 'expert' mode mentioned  - its someone that has done it.. and messed stuff up. :P06:40
Dr_Willisphyburn,  i think you enter 'expert' at the boot prompt. or smthing.06:40
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OrbordeI have an ndiswrapper problem.06:41
Madpilotphyburn: expert install stuffs up many of the default Ubuntu GUI tools...06:41
limguohong91When I want to copy 2 files to etc/hotplug/usb it does not allow me. I know it is because of permission. May I know how I can change it?06:41
OrbordeActually, I'll pastebin it. Stand by06:41
phyburnDr_Willis i have no other choice for some reason the dev wanted it so you can not partition your drive if there is already linux on it06:41
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a|sodr wills how do i mount them.. i can see the hard disk.. it shows with all the partitions together but when i click the tab of partition it has the partitions too.. when i press enable it doesnt do anything.. and it doesnt have an access path either..06:42
phyburnMadpilot: well i need to partition my drive and i cant do it06:42
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Dr_Willisphyburn,  Huh? ive done just that befor I thouight.. during the installer. i alt-ctrl-F2 and fired up fdisk and did wht i wanted I thought.06:42
zoexiia|so, you have to define the mount directory first,06:42
a|sowell.. erm.. i dont even know what mount is06:42
OrbordeLook at this: http://pastebin.com/45060006:42
a|sohow do i do this06:42
zoexiicreate a couple of mount points in /media/ or wherever.06:42
OrbordeWhy don't I see a wlan interface?06:42
phyburnDr_Willis how would i fire up fdisk just hit alt-ctrl-F2 when the system is starting06:43
zoexiia|so, a mount point is simply an ordinary folder,06:43
a|sookay so i just create a folder on the desktop06:43
a|soand then ?06:43
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zoexiia|so, I would reccomend in /media06:44
Dr_Willisphyburn,  yea - normally most all text based installers let ya pop over to the other consoles . some times theres logging info or other stuff on them or a shell to do things.06:44
a|sowhere is the media ?06:44
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a|soi create a media folder and make an ordinary folder in that ?06:44
Dr_Willisphyburn, it may be alt-f2 :P i forget.. i hit the keys out of habbit.06:44
Dr_Willis  /media/06:44
phyburnkk thanks06:44
zoexiia|so, no, /media is a folder which already exists in your root directory,06:45
Madpilot!mount06:45
ubotuI heard mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f06:45
a|sookay am inside media06:45
zoexiia|so, any cdroms that you might mount appear in this folder as well.  usb drives etc,06:45
a|soill just create any folder in that ?06:45
ardchoillehehe, I love _DarkMind- 's avatar on ubuntuforums06:45
Madpilota|so: see ubotu above ^^^06:45
zoexiia|so, give it a name that makes sense, 'windows' maybe.06:46
WatjeDoes anyone knows a good program to manage a tournament (on a lanparty)?06:46
ardchoilleWatje: vim?06:46
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Orbordeardchoille: No, emacs, you miserable troll!06:47
a|sozoexii, when i went to the media folder and right clicked..it doesnt allow the create new folder option06:47
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ardchoilleemacs is a nice OS.. maybe someone will write a good editor for it06:47
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Watjeardchoille, no i want some tournament software06:47
Watjeno text editor :x06:47
a|sonote : am using a live ubuntu cd06:47
zoexiia|so, open a terminal and type "sudo mkdir /media/windows"06:48
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zoexiia|so, you need superuser priveledges to create folders in /media06:48
a|sozoexii am sorry to ask this.. but how do i open a terminal.. and how do i get a superuser priviledge.. am the only user on this machine06:48
insipidman sudo06:49
zoexiia|so, applications>accessories>terminal06:49
Dr_Willisinsipid,  :P if he cant get to a shell yet.. i think ya are jumping the gun :P06:49
insipidsorry06:49
ardchoillea|so: ALT+F2, type gnome-terminal06:49
Dr_Willisinsipid,  but at least the guy is tryign to learn. :P he has potential!06:50
Dr_Willishttp://linuxcommand.org/learning_the_shell.php06:50
Dr_Willisis a nice looking shell tutorial - i just found.06:50
insipidDr_Willis, i think people need to read the linux beginners guide to, its really good for understanding basic command line navigation06:50
Orbordehttp://pastebin.com/450608 <- Can anyone take a look at this and tell me if I'm doing something wrong?06:50
a|sothe terminal has already something written on it as ubuntu@ubuntu:-$06:51
a|sowhat should i do.. type the one you said below it06:51
ardchoilleinsipid: yeah, I just recently learned what "cd -" does06:51
a|soor erase this one06:51
Dr_WillisInsecta,  yea - im wondering if there should be some beginner guide links on the default desktop06:51
Dr_Willisoops.. insipid  i ment. :P06:51
ardchoillea|so: you can't erase that, that is your prompt06:51
Dr_WillisHmm.. actually some links on the live cd - may be a good idea.06:51
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Overclocked_486can anyone help with a quick cron question?06:52
zoexiia|so, that's the command propt, don't worry about it,06:52
ardchoilleOverclocked_486: I can try06:52
a|somm ardchoille, whenever i press enter on that line.. it just repeats itself .. where should i type what you wnated me to paste06:52
insipidDr_Willis, yeah people don't really understand what they are getting into, some eye catching documentation would be good for clueless people06:52
zoexiia|so, just type "sudo mkdir /media/windows" after the '$'06:52
ardchoillea|so: just type away, it'll show06:52
MadpilotDr_Willis: the liveCD - and the default install of Ubuntu - has a Help launcher on the top bar already, actually06:53
insipidthen we can just say "double click the guide"06:53
insipid=>06:53
Dr_Willisinsipid,  :P good linux book = Not a lot of pictures - but good "outlines" of how things relate.06:53
ardchoillea|so: the "$" is showing that you are using the term as a user, not root06:53
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Dr_WillisMadpilot,  i thogh that was hte gnome help system06:53
Overclocked_486ardchoille: I added a shell script to start xmms and have it play to /etc/cron.daily, then added a line in /etc/crontab for it to start at a given time on any day as my regular user.06:53
Dr_WillisMadpilot,  unless ive just never noticed any other help in there. :P06:54
insipidDr_Willis, don't need pictures i mainly ment a guide to the shell, thats all that matters.. not gnome06:54
Dr_Willisseems that often the 'help' is less then helpfull.  :P06:54
Overclocked_486ardchoille: Problem is, it made my sound daemon choke.06:54
veryfunny!mount06:54
ubotuwell, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f06:54
Overclocked_486ardchoille: Is there usually a problem with these sorts of tasks conflicting with daemons?06:54
Dr_Willisinsipid,   http://linuxcommand.org/    - seems decently done.06:54
veryfunny!fstab06:54
ubotuthe /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the winmac_fstab file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab  See <partitions>.06:54
a|soalright06:55
insipidDr_Willis, ill have to check it out then06:55
a|soi have the foder created06:55
a|sowhat should i do now that i have a folder named windows inside.. the  media folder06:55
ardchoilleOverclocked_486: I don't know, I've never tried to start xmms from a cronjob06:55
Overclocked_486ardchoille: thanks anyways.06:56
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zoexiia|so, set the acess path in disk manager to /media/windows, then click the button06:56
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cenopechey quick question, i have an external hard drive and i had it working at one point, but now it wont even load it up, do i have to mount it?06:58
cenopecit would do it automatically before06:58
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cenopec????06:58
zoexiicenopec, try mounting it.06:59
GlossaryHow can i find out which users are online in a terminal command?06:59
a|sowell it did something and then said that i do not have the permission to view the contents of this folder and dint show me anything06:59
dreamerglossary.. try the who command06:59
dreamertype "who"06:59
Glossaryok thanks07:00
phyburnwhat anther command that i can us instead of fdisk07:00
[adw] Glossary: or type just w07:00
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dreamerwithout the quotes.. and you can quote me on the quotes unquote07:00
paul__finally got ubuntu desktop working :)07:00
phyburnnice07:00
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zoexii!windowsdrives07:00
ubotuI guess windowsdrives is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f07:00
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Glossarythanks :)07:01
Glossaryum07:01
dreamertry my favorite command as well07:01
Glossarydoes anybody know a little bit about IRCds?07:01
dreamertype "fortune"07:01
dreamer:-p07:02
[adw] fortune07:02
a|sohow do i get administrative rights ?07:02
[adw] :-P07:02
ordinaryfortune07:02
a|sothats whats preventing me07:02
dabaRphyburn: what other command that would do what? there are a lot of commands you could use, depending on what you would like done.07:02
a|sohow come they put me as some punee person when am the only user07:02
frogzoo!tell a|so about sudo07:02
Glossarylol07:02
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dabaRa|so: does the drive get mounted on boot?07:02
Glossaryok how many processes can i run ??? ircds ..07:02
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zoexiia|so, you should be able to browse the volume as super-user... I don't know if nautilus can be run as root,07:02
dreamerthey put you as "puny" user so you dont get in trouble as root07:03
phyburnim trying to partition my disk dabaR but fdisk keeps tell me unable to read /dev/hda07:03
Glossaryhow can i logout a user using Terminal ??07:03
Toma-Glossary: exit07:03
Glossaryexit ?07:03
Glossaryif im not using that user07:03
Dr_Willis'kill' their processes if you are refering to killing some OTHER users and making them logout.07:03
frogzooGlossary: Id guess 2^32 on a 32 bit system07:03
Toma-or you mean konsole or gnome-terminal?07:03
Glossaryif the other user is on Telnel or smth07:03
dabaRGlossary: you would have to kill his process. are you the admin of the system?07:03
Toma-oic07:03
Glossaryyea i am07:04
a|sozoexii how do i become super ?07:04
Dr_Willisps ax | grep (some pattern to find the user)07:04
frogzooa|so: please read prior link07:04
Dr_Willisor does ps have a  user optin? never noticed.07:04
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insipid*sighs* i really don't want to to compile my own kernel...07:04
GlossarydabaR, and how to kill the process?07:05
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dabaRGlossary: sudo ps -u <userName>, then, either sudo kill -9 PID for his login, or post the output of the ps -u command to paste.ubuntulinux.nl and i will tell you the exact commmand.07:05
frogzoodabaR you dont need sudo for ps - just btw07:05
zoexiia|so, try this: applications>systemtools>run as different user   then run 'nautilus' as root,07:05
Dr_Willissoululdent ya use just 'kill pid' to kill them nicely first. :P then -9 if they dont die that way.07:06
linux_newbim trying to install something, i need to switch to the directory the file is in how do i do that07:06
zoexiia|so, you should be able to browse the partition then,07:06
whyameyeI can't get resume to work after a suspend to disk. Is there a log created somewhere on the disk that I could look at to try to troubleshoot?07:06
Delvienanyone have some experience with wifi here?07:06
GlossarydabaR,  8319 ?        00:00:07 x-session-manag07:06
frogzoolinux_newb: 'cd DIRECTORY'07:06
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dabaRfrogzoo: ok, thanks.07:06
Glossaryis it kill -9 8319 ?07:06
linux_newboh thats it i remember now ty:P07:06
Dr_Willissudo kill 831907:06
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Dr_Willisthen if it dont die.. try it with -907:06
dabaRis he logged into the console and you are trying to kill this remotely, Glossary ?07:06
frogzooGlossary: best to try kill -TERM first, kill -9 is not really recdd07:06
Glossaryyea remotely07:07
zoexiia|so, in any case, this is a pretty half-assed solution, you should read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions if you want to have the partition mounted automatically07:07
dabaRweird, everybody knows how to use Unix all the sudden.07:07
dreamerwhats unix?07:08
zoexii!unix07:08
ubotuzoexii: Wish i knew07:08
frogzoodreamer: unix is a Linux clone07:08
dabaRa|so: is the drive mounted at boot?07:08
dabaRdreamer: whatever, that is where those commands came from.07:08
Glossary:P07:08
dreamerha ha07:08
linux_newbim trying to install a rpm package and it tells me to use alien, whats that07:09
dreamerunix isnt a problem.. i wish i knew how to work IRC07:09
dabaRlinux_newb: what are you installing?>07:09
linux_newbgyach enhanced07:09
Dr_Willisirc needs a good chat program. :P07:09
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skplexchat!07:09
dreamerbitchx07:10
jsgotangcoirssi!07:10
[adw] irssi07:10
dabaRdreamer: youre such a hardcore one, eh?:P07:10
Shadowpillarxchat07:10
Shadowpillarwait07:10
ShadowpillarMIRC07:10
Shadowpillar:D07:10
zoexiiircII07:10
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linux_newbirc = multiplayer notepad07:10
dreamerha ha07:10
Dr_Willisi rember some 'telnet' feature in mIRC :P so i could telnet into my linux box and run irssi :P07:10
ShadowpillarBACK IN MAH DAY, WE USED TELNET AND LIKED IT07:11
skplecan someone tell me how to change the close window button?07:11
frogzoolinux_newb: RPMs don't work on ubuntu - find a .deb07:11
linux_newbok..07:11
Shadowpillarwe telnetted to port 104 on ircnet.07:11
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linux_newbwill bz2 files work07:11
Glossaryok WHO isnt showing me the other user who's online and connected thru SSH07:11
zoexiiskple, change it how? system>prefs>themes probably....07:11
dreameryou mean ubuntu isnt redhat?07:11
Shadowpillarnowadays these kids and their xchats and mircs and ircII's07:11
dreamer:-X07:11
ShadowpillarGlossary, w07:11
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ShadowpillarGlossary, type w07:11
GlossaryShadowline, w doesnt show anything also07:12
dreameri use xchat.. im not much of an IRC junkie07:12
damnhilI just found a serious security hole in ubunut07:12
frogzoodreamer: strange but true - ubuntu is not redhat - only the names have been changed to protect the guilty07:12
Glossaryit shows me only!07:12
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Dr_Willisskple,  just the onebutton? or the whole theme/look? theres several theme settings ya can play with07:12
a|sommm when i go back to the disks and browse from there.. i can access..07:12
Shadowpillardamnhil, was it the glitch I found which killed my system? :(07:12
dabaRGlossary: it would be shown.07:12
Glossarywell its not :S07:12
a|soi already got a user with executive powers..but from the one in the desktop i cant view the files as i dont have the permission..07:12
Shadowpillarwith reiserfs07:12
a|sobut from the system.. disks i can07:12
damnhilShadowpillar: you can do ls /root as a normal user07:13
Shadowpillarput a ' in the docs location field when running checkinstall07:13
ShadowpillarBAM07:13
Shadowpillarkills the system07:13
skpledr_willis: no matter which theme i use i get the same ugly red arrow for my close window button, and i would like to change it.07:13
Shadowpillarall the permissions on disk are utterly fucked.07:13
insipidman.. 1280X1024 looks like 800X600 in gnome..07:13
insipiduugly :O07:14
Shadowpillarpardon my language07:14
Shadowpillarthey exist07:14
Shadowpillarbut they dont at the same time07:14
Dr_Willisskple,  try the theme control panel thing and play with under 'theme details' - sounds like youmay have a messed up file.. i see none with red arrows.07:14
Shadowpillarit's got me baffled.07:14
insomndis it hard to build debian packages?07:14
skpleDr_Willis, are you using hoary hedgehog?07:14
dabaRskple: is it the X in the top right?07:14
Dr_Willisskple,  may want to take a screen shot and post it somehwere for us to look at.07:14
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skpledabar: no, it is the one that appears on tabs07:15
Dr_Willisskple,  using 5.10 - I dont go by the silly names.07:15
linux_newbok.. somewhere i heard that i can convert these rpm files to deb... does anybody know about doing that?07:15
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dabaRskple: paste.ubuntulinux.nl can take postings of pictures.07:15
skpleDr_Willis, alright, screenshot it is07:15
damnhilWhy does ubuntu allow normal user to see /root ?07:15
insipidthe kernel handles memory rather well...07:15
dabaRin the right of the tabs themselves? in what prgram?07:15
frogzoolinux_newb: best dont go that direction until you really know what you're doing07:15
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Madpilotdamnhil: it's read-only07:15
linux_newbok:D07:15
frank23linux_newb: you can use alien to convert from rpm to deb but why don you just use Xchat07:16
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Dr_Willisplus theres not much in /root07:16
linux_newbi'll stick with gaim for now then07:16
dabaRinsomnd: search for debian new maintainers guide on google.07:16
a|somm now i tried to play a file..and it says that there are no decoders..and i need to install pluggins to play muisc files07:16
linux_newbi wanted gyach for yahoo..07:16
a|sowhat should i do..where do i get an auto bundle or something07:16
crimsundamnhil: hiding things in /root buys you nothing.07:16
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skpledabaR, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/i544807:16
skpleoops07:16
skpleforgive07:16
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frank23linux_newb: for yahoo's chat rooms?07:16
zoexii!mp307:16
ubotuit has been said that mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats07:16
Glossary08:16:29 up 7 days, 18:39,  2 users,  load average: 0.35, 0.27, 0.2407:17
GlossaryDoesnt actually show the 2 users!07:17
linux_newbyes frank07:17
Glossaryshows only me07:17
Glossary:S07:17
GlossaryWhy07:17
dabaRGlossary: root user.07:17
evan_no!07:17
zoexiia|so, follow the above link, it will tell you how to get mp3 support07:17
frogzoocrimsun: a world executable /root does appear interesting - would be better not07:17
skpleDabar: it is the little ugly red arrow that appears on the tabs in xchat, and in gaim, on the tab07:17
frank23linux_newb: I never went to those chat rooms. does Gaim work for that?07:17
Shadowpillarapt-get install libmad07:17
GlossarydabaR, what?07:17
dabaRwell, we shall take a look now.07:17
linux_newbgaim works for that but i have heard that gyach e in alot better07:18
dabaRGlossary: the root user is also logged in, but not shown under w who, and so on.07:18
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dabaRGlossary: or even if you log in twice.07:18
GlossarydabaR, a friend of mine is connected to his USERname on MY PC through SSH...! i cant see him only why ???07:19
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zoexii!ubotu07:19
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.07:19
frogzooGlossary: who ?07:19
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linux_newbubotu is my friend:D07:19
ubotulinux_newb: What?07:19
Glossaryfrogzoo, who what?07:19
frogzooGlossary: does this guy show if you run 'who' ?07:19
linux_newbis xmms the best mp3 player07:20
Glossaryfrogzoo, no...07:20
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dabaRGlossary: II doubt that sentence, and have no answer.07:20
skpledabaR, do you see it07:20
GlossarydabaR, what man?07:20
Toma-linux_newb: no :(07:20
dabaRlinux_newb: it is one of them. if it was the best, everyone would use just that one, and no others would be worth developing.07:20
alekzhow can i remove gnome-pty-helper process ?07:20
dabaRskple: no, it looks normal, like mine. a red x.07:20
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Shadowpillarlinux_newb, you're asking a matter of opinion, I'd say beep-media-player has it beat because it has more modern features, bmpx, once it hits a stable build, will rock the foundation xmms is on07:21
skpledabaR, show me yours.07:21
ShadowpillarI hear amarok is good too07:21
skplei wish there was a player like amarok for gnome.07:21
dabaRskple: I am remotely logged into my computer.07:21
dpupphow do i find the path to mplayer ?07:21
dabaRwhich mplayer07:21
xspadeswhich g(mplayer)07:21
zoexiiskple, it runs on gnome,07:21
dpuppim configuring an xmms plugin, which allows display of video using mplayer...07:22
skplezoexii, yeah, but it never looks rigth07:22
zoexiiskple, just check it off in synaptic, it will take care of all the kde dependancies07:22
frogzoodpupp: or 'locate mplayer' if it not in your current path07:22
dpuppok07:22
Toma-make that "locate mplayer | grep bin"07:22
dpuppthanks!07:23
GlossarydabaR, i didnt get your last message!07:23
dabaRmeh, thats for normal files, for binaries, programs, you use which.07:23
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insipidwow ubuntu detects printers too.. amazing07:23
skpledabaR, so you do not know of a way to change that bitmap, or whatever it is?07:23
insipid:)07:23
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dabaRskple: exactly.07:23
dabaRGlossary: I did not send one. I do not think there is someone logged in if he is not shown by who.07:24
dpuppAwesome! slowly xmms player is becoming my defaul.07:24
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Glossarybut dabaR im sure he's in.. he pasted me the whole thing that he's connected07:24
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Glossaryand changed the password and done some things etc..07:24
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nicholaswHello!07:24
Overclocked_486can anyone help me with a cronjob problem? a working shell script isn't executing.07:24
skplehi07:24
Glossaryhe's not on the same PC as I am.. he's home but connected to his account ont his pc using ssh07:25
skpledoes anyone else know how to change  the close tab graphic?07:25
dabaRGlossary: no. I do not believe that. I am not a subject matter expert or anything, but afaik that is impossible to mask yourself like that. try this. "sudo ps aux" and read through the output. if you don't see his username, he is lying:)07:25
Toma-skple: for what app?07:25
Overclocked_486can anyone help me with a cronjob problem? a working shell script isn't executing.07:26
Glossaryok just a sec07:26
dabaRGlossary: make sure, using "hostname" that you are both logged into the same machine. would not be the first time it happened.07:26
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GlossarydabaR, yea i see his username!07:26
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Glossarybut its not appearing in the who! or w!07:27
dabaRGlossary: ok, you solved your problem. turns out my information was wrong.07:28
GlossarydabaR, so its sudo ps aux??07:28
skpletoma: for all apps, it appears in both xchat and gaim07:28
skplecan someone tell me what to do if no engine appears in the amrok configuration options?07:28
Toma-oh that one07:29
linux_newbhow do i mount a ntfs drive07:29
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Overclocked_486hey, can anyone help me with a cronjob problem? a working shell script isn't executing.07:29
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Lockeanyone know what port 6881 is?07:30
GlossarydabaR,07:30
Glossaryn3tki    25941  0.0  0.3   6284  2032 ?        S    08:11   0:00 sshd: n3tki@pts07:30
Glossaryn3tki    25943  0.0  0.3   4632  2016 pts/2    Ss+  08:11   0:00 -bash07:30
Glossarywhat should i kill here?07:30
Overclocked_486Locke: Bittorrent, AFAIk07:31
Toma-skple: find your icon theme directory, openup the size youre at and open the gtk folder. then edit/change the gtk-icon.png to what you want07:31
frogzooLocke: grep 6881 /etc/services ?07:31
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dabaRGlossary: first one.07:31
sagarphow can i get firefox to stop using totem and just use mplayer??07:31
Lockeoverclocked_486: pose any security problems to my firewall if i open it?07:31
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skpletoma: thank you07:32
Toma-no prob07:32
Overclocked_486Locke: It shouldn't any more than another port.07:32
Glossaryokay thx07:32
frank23Locke: you appart from possible legal problems? ;-)07:32
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Overclocked_486Locke: It's less well known than 80 or 21, for examle.07:32
Overclocked_486*example07:32
dabaRsagarp: it may be an option in  "about:config" in the address bar. Did you check the forums on this one? Did you install the mplayer plugin?07:32
Overclocked_486locke: Why would you need it open?07:32
linux_newbhow can i see my ntfs primary slave drive in ubuntu07:33
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Shadowpillarsagarp, hrmm... mplayer plugin.. but I'd suggest installing the totem-xine package.07:33
frogzooLocke: as far as IANA know, 6881 is unregistered07:33
Lockeoverclocked_486: bittorrent won't connect07:33
insipidAnyone here know how to make the menu's scaled smaller in gnome?07:33
Overclocked_486Locke: Ah.07:33
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Amaranthinsipid: Do you like C? :)07:33
GlossarydabaR, ok one more question07:33
DjKriticalDoes anyone know a decent gnutella client for Ubunut07:33
Shadowpillarsagarp, as you can get the same results as mplayer07:33
Glossaryif he uploads and runs an IRCd deamon would it still work if im already running on the same machine IP ??07:33
skpledoes anyone know the url of the mozilla extension that lets you play mpegs and such?07:33
starscallingim baaaaaaaaack .:P07:33
Overclocked_486can anyone help me with a cron problem?07:34
Shadowpillarsagarp, the default totem-gstreamer is garbage, as is most of gstreamer07:34
insipidAmaranth, yes, im not touchign the source :)07:34
frogzooOverclocked_486: wassup? just state your problem07:34
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Shadowpillaratm, gstreamer is better for nothing more than playing little sound effects07:34
paul__what is the best/easiest way to install the nvida drive for a 6800 gefore?07:34
deFryskShadowpillar, hello ?07:34
AmaranthShadowpillar: gstreamer 0.10 is awesome07:34
frank23skple: extension: mediaplayerconnectivity ?07:34
deFryskgarbage ?07:34
paul__there seems to be multiple methods..07:34
frogzoo!tell paul__ about nvidia07:34
insipidAmaranth, i mean hell im running 1028X1024 and the widgets are MASSIVE like 800X600 feel to them07:34
Glossary*running one..07:34
insipid128007:34
Overclocked_486frogzoo: throwing sh /etc/cron.daily/alarm.sh works just fine, but when I add it into /etc/crontab it won't execute07:35
Shadowpillarfrom my experience, gstreamer doesnt play nice with dvd's07:35
paradoxiumlinux_newb:  it's in the starter guide on the ubuntu wiki07:35
Amaranthinsipid: err, the applications menu uses 22x22 or 24x24 icons, they aren't that big07:35
linux_newb!tell linux_newb about ntfs07:35
sagarpdabaR,shadowpillar, i tried about:config, i didnt find anything, and i cant find any info in forms...nothing i try works...some file types are associated with mplayer, some with totem...i tried using mozplugger, and changing mime types, nothign seems to work07:35
Shadowpillaror a lot of movie formats07:35
linux_newb:D07:35
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frogzooOverclocked_486: its probably crapping out from output - try adding in the crontab '> /dev/null 2>&1'07:35
GlossarydabaR,  if he uploads and runs an IRCd deamon would it still work if im already running one the same machine IP ??07:36
Shadowpillarsagarp, apt-get install totem-xine and install the w32codecs package07:36
sagarpshadowpillar, i use totem-xine..most of the time when firefox has a video embedded, it crashes when i close that window..this is why i want to try to see if that happens with mplayer07:36
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deFrysksagarp, if you are sure you'll never use the totem-pluging, remove the referring plugins from /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins07:36
Shadowpillarsagarp, odd, I dont have that issue07:36
insipidAmaranth, my desktop in 1280X1024 gets packed up quicker than me 800X600 by FAT windows BIG menus and UGLY widgets07:36
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Amaranthinsipid: It sounds like you've got a configuration problem.07:37
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Amaranthinsipid: Try changing your theme.07:37
Overclocked_486frogzoo: So if I want it to execute every day at, say, noon, the line should read "0 12 * * * root sh /etc/cron.daily/alarm.sh >/dev/null 2>&1"?07:37
dabaRsagarp: I had 2 other questions.07:37
kumakunHey, real quick question. what's the standard port that ssh uses?07:37
frogzooinsipid: change your theme - the OS X ports are nice07:37
ShadowpillarAmaranth, wanna hear my prob? you'll love this one.07:37
dabaRDjKritical: `did you get an answer? gtk-gnutella is what I use.07:37
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ShadowpillarAmaranth, I was making a package via checkinstall07:37
frogzookumakun: grep ssh /etc/services07:37
insipidAmaranth, changin the theme just changes the buttons and colors07:37
sagarpdabaR, i do have the mplayer plugin installed, as some files play with mplayer, and some play with totem07:37
GlossarydabaR, you still here man?07:37
skplecan someone tell me why no sound comes out when i try to play an audio file with amarok, even though the song is playing?07:37
themuffenmanngtk-gnutella is pretty good07:38
Overclocked_486frogzoo: I'm trying to get xmms to play in the morning to wake me up.07:38
themuffenmannthats whut i use07:38
ShadowpillarAmaranth, stop it because I put in some bad data, suddenly, my ENTIRE system's permissions were quite screwed.07:38
AmaranthShadowpillar: I heard that one, my answer is fdisk. :P07:38
dabaRinsipid: use a different WM. openbox nicely rolls up windows using hte scroll wheel of the mouse, has no panels, and no desktop.07:38
dreamerwhats a good book for linux noob?07:38
Amaranthinsipid: Ok, try the fonts caplet.07:38
ShadowpillarAmaranth, what good will that do?07:38
themuffenmannFluxbox is good too07:38
insipidi like fluxbox07:38
dabaRsagarp: inside firefox some play in totem, some in mmplayer?07:38
insipidim thinking about ditching the desktop.. its pretty lame07:38
dabaR!books07:39
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, books is http://www.debian.org/doc/books - Debian, and http://www.nl.debian.org/doc/manuals/book-suggestions/ - Linux07:39
AmaranthShadowpillar: It'll wipe the system.07:39
sagarpdabaR,  yes, it's based on the mime types..i dont remember which exactly but some are set to play with totem, some with mplayer, and when i cahgne the mime.conf file ro wahtever it doesnt work07:39
skpledoes anyone know the url of the mozilla extension that lets you play mpegs and such?07:39
themuffenmanni have Ubuntu on a 20 GB partition with GNOME and Fluxbox then Slackware on another 20GB partition07:39
themuffenmanngood shit07:39
insipidgnome is just so hideous id rather look at a blank screen with a right0click menu07:39
a|soalriht its extracting i think..07:39
whyameyewhat does it mean if the IDE device for the ACPI handler is NULL? I get this when trying to resume from hibernation. Then the machine freezes....07:39
frank23skple: extension: mediaplayerconnectivity ?07:39
ShadowpillarAmaranth, ho ho. do you think the permissions prob is on the filesystem level?07:39
skplei liek gnome07:39
frogzooskple: gxine methinks?07:39
kumakunfrogzoo: Thanks07:39
ShadowpillarAmaranth, like the permissions table or something got messed up but fsck cant see it?07:40
dreameri like kde07:40
themuffenmannany other GTK themers in the house?07:40
AmaranthShadowpillar: I think you could spend a month fixing it by hand or spend 20 minutes reinstalling.07:40
dreamerenlightenment is pretty nice too07:40
dabaRubotu: no, books is http:://www.debian.org/doc/books - Debian, and http://www.nl.debian.org/doc/manuals/book-suggestions/ - GNU/Linux07:40
ubotuokay, dabaR07:40
AmaranthShadowpillar: No, it's at the chmod level.07:40
ShadowpillarAmaranth, it isnt07:40
ShadowpillarAmaranth, trust me07:40
ShadowpillarAmaranth, the permissions are the same07:40
frogzoothemuffenmann: install the gnome art manager 'gnome-art'  ?07:40
GlossarydabaR,  if he uploads and runs an IRCd deamon would it still work if im already running one the same machine IP ??07:40
themuffenmannfrog..what do you mean?07:40
AmaranthGlossary: no07:40
AmaranthGlossary: unless you run his on a different port07:41
insipidAmaranth, fonts are at 1007:41
ShadowpillarAmaranth, they're the same as they were before07:41
harry_potterhi07:41
Amaranthinsipid, Shadowpillar: I have no idea.07:41
ShadowpillarAmaranth, and havent been modified, that's what's mindblowing07:41
ShadowpillarI think it's reiserfs07:41
GlossaryAmaranth, thanks.. but its not such a smart idea to run to ircds on a same ip then is it?!07:41
Overclocked_486frogzoo: no dice. xmms still won't come up.07:41
Shadowpillargonna go back to ext307:41
Shadowpillarused ext3 for 3 years and never had a prob07:41
AmaranthGlossary: It's usually not a good idea to run one at all.07:41
Shadowpillarused reiser for a few months and bam07:42
GlossaryAmaranth, why not?07:42
AmaranthGlossary: Unless it's needed for something.07:42
Glossarywell yea it is..07:42
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dabaRsagarp: did you search the forums? the totem plugin is located at /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libtotemSomething. if you rename it, it wont be used to play movies any more. I personally thinnk that if you bloat your programs too much(like using a browwser to view movies) it will crash more often.07:42
AmaranthGlossary: some script kiddie using your irc server for his zombie bots to connect to07:42
insipidAmaranth, woah subpixel smoothing helped07:42
nrdbHi I am trying to use OpenOfficeBase, but none of the wizards are working, anyone know why?07:42
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GlossaryAmaranth, no no im just testing something and then im removing him07:43
insipidi can read the stuff alot better07:43
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paul__how can i tell if i'm running i386 or i686? uname -r states 2.6.12.9-amd64-generic07:43
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Overclocked_486paul__: You'd be running an A6407:44
Amaranthpaul__: You're running either a pentium 4 EMT64 or an Athlon or Opteron AMD6407:44
paul__yeah07:44
frogzooOverclocked_486: maybe try writing the log somewhere - '> /tmp/xxx 2>&1'07:44
Amaranthpaul__: which is it?07:44
jwaldongood afternoon ubuntu's minions :)07:44
paul__but that doesnt help in terms of choosing between linux-restricted-modules-386 (or linux-restricted-modules-68607:44
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paul__its an X2 4000 amd chip.07:44
Amaranthpaul__: You need to install the x86 version of Ubuntu.07:44
Glossaryand Amaranth  or dabaR could the user connected to my PC see my FILES? or only his dir????07:44
Orbordepaul__: There should be a linux-restricted-modules-amd64 ...?07:45
Overclocked_486frogzoo: The line should read "0 12 * * * root sh /etc/cron.daily/alarm.sh >>/dev/null 2>&1 > /tmp/xxx 2>&1"?07:45
AmaranthGlossary: depends on your permission setup07:45
AmaranthGlossary: by default, yes07:45
GlossaryAmaranth, how can i limit that??07:45
AmaranthGlossary: If you're worried about that don't let people on your system.07:45
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nrdbpaul__: have you tried "cat /etc/cpuinfo"07:45
Glossarybut i need to know how to limit it.. can you please tell me?07:45
paul__yeah, its /proc/07:46
nrdbI am looking for some tutorials on using OpenOfficeBase...07:47
GlossaryAmaranth, please tell me how07:47
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AmaranthGlossary: I don't remember exactly.07:47
frogzooOverclocked_486: imo, should read "0 12 * * * /etc/cron.daily/alarm.sh > /tmp/xxx 2>&1"07:47
dabaRGlossary: a user on the system can see all files on the system that are readable to him. in all folders that are executable by him.07:47
Overclocked_486frogzoo: I'll try that.07:47
GlossarydabaR, you know how i can limit it to see only his directory?? (and are my files editable for him????)07:47
nrdbpaul__: sorry about that your right there.07:48
frogzooOverclocked_486: that script should start with "#!/bin/sh" btw07:48
Overclocked_486it does.07:48
Overclocked_486wait...07:48
Overclocked_486no, it's /usr/bin/sh. will that make a difference?07:48
chorseOverclocked_486, sure.07:49
nrdbOverclocked_486: what does "which sh" return07:49
frogzooOverclocked_486: dunno - 'which sh' should give the correct path07:49
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Overclocked_486yeah, bin/sh.07:49
Overclocked_486dag07:49
GlossarydabaR,  ???07:49
nrdbHi I am trying to use OpenOfficeBase, but none of the wizards are working, anyone know why?07:50
whyameyein general, do people have suspend to disk working in Breezy?07:50
dabaRGlossary: look, if you do an annoying thing like that once more, I wont answwer any of your questions. you are more impatient than most people I work this with _for_ money.07:50
Overclocked_486!/usr/bin/sh changed to !/bin/sh07:50
ubotuOverclocked_486: I haven't a clue07:50
Overclocked_486*drumroll*07:50
dabaRGlossary: read this http://zernike.uwinnipeg.ca/~s_liao/Courses/2941/Week05.pdf07:51
chorsenrdb, there aren't many tutorials at this time, did you read the official docs?07:51
GlossarydabaR, well im sorry but i thought you didnt see the message or smth07:51
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dabaRGlossary: just be patient, I am looking around for material for you.07:51
dabaRGlossary: around the end of that file permissions on *nix systems are explained.07:51
AmaranthGlossary: I _think_ chmod 701 /home/<user> will hide /home/<user> from other users07:51
GlossarydabaR, okay man thanks, but pdf dont open here..07:51
nrdbchorse: I haven't been able to find much at all.  where are the offical docs?07:51
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chorsenrdb: just click on the Help button in OO.o07:52
chorsenrdb, else this is a nice base+mysql tutorial, http://www.bsdgangster.org/modules.php?name=Content&file=viewarticle&id=1007:52
insipidaw hell i just found some spyware for linux... punkbuster07:53
kwtm1From the command line, how does one get a list of packages or look for a package?  I tried "dpkg -l MyPackageName", but that seems to yield no results whereas using Adept or Kynaptic shows the package name clearly listed.07:53
dabaRGlossary: read it when you have time. to make files unreadable by anyone but yourself, "chmod 700 filename" if it is an executable file, and chmod 600 filename if it is not an executable. "man chmod" for more details.07:53
nrdbchorse: I found one of to do with base_mysql and all that went into was how to set it up, nothing to do with using it.07:53
chorsenrdb, well base is quite new07:54
Overclocked_486man, this is annoying.07:54
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Glossaryhum thanks07:54
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nrdbchorse: Yes!  Do you know why none of the wizards are working?07:55
linux_newbhow can i see my 2nd HDD in linux its ntfs07:55
dabaR!mountwindows07:55
ubotuDownload and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions07:55
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linux_newbty07:55
chorsenrdb, mh, ubuntu package?07:55
nrdblinux_newb: As far as I know all you can do with ntfs is read.07:56
dabaRheh, if you wish to die a slow and painful death, press here.07:56
linux_newbnrdb: yeah it sux eh:P07:56
dabaRntfs does suck, yes.07:56
nrdbchorse: Yes, just install and updated kubuntu.07:56
linux_newbhe he07:56
chorsenrdb, what happens if you try a wiz?07:57
nrdbchorse: Abosutly nothing, no warning/errors/or anything.07:57
dabaRAmaranth: the thing with just making your home folder x is that if a user somehoww finds out an exact filename there, he can read it if it is readable.07:57
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dabaRAmaranth: 701 is sometimes used for apache to be able to access your public07:58
win#kediri07:58
AmaranthdabaR: Of course, but there isn't much else you can do unless you chmod everything in there by hand.07:58
dabaRpublic_html folder.07:58
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AmaranthdabaR: Yeah, that's why I use it.07:58
dabaRAmaranth: dont even allow x would work.07:58
dabaRit would be off limits.07:58
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dabaRAmaranth: its funny, a lot of the profs at my U dont understand permissions, so they have pr0n files in their Unix accounts:)07:59
fatehazeI'm running stock Ubuntu but my login screen says Edubuntu... is there a way to change it?07:59
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dabaRinstall ubuntu-desktop should do it.08:00
chorsenrdb, mh, the version shipped with ubuntu is a 2.0 prerelease. perhaps you may want to try the openoffice package from openoffice.org if it's working there08:00
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fatehazePhat, thanks :)08:00
dabaRI like edubuntu.08:01
dabaRit has nice icons08:01
fatehazeHmm, too few arguments for "install ubuntu-desktop"08:01
chorsefatehaze, apt-get install08:01
fatehazeEdubuntu is nice and all, I just don't know why my startup screen says it08:01
fatehazeAh, thanks :D08:02
a|somm am gonna sleep now its 7:02 am08:02
a|sothnx for everything08:02
dabaRfatehaze: it was not a command, it was a conceptual thing, install the ubuntu-desktop package with your favorite installation program.08:02
a|sotake care people08:02
fatehazeHehe, gotcha08:02
Overclocked_486can anyone give me an example of a working cron job?08:02
fatehazeCan I customize the login screen to my liking?08:03
nrdbOverclocked_486: cron jobs are just standard scripts, cron just executes the script at set intervals.08:04
bluefoxicyI hope thunderbird 1.5 is packaged in dapper08:04
bluefoxicyit uses 26 megs of memory08:04
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bluefoxicy1.0.7 uses like 60 @.@08:04
Overclocked_486nrdb: But my script works. Cron seemingly won't execute it.08:04
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nrdbOverclocked_486: you have to be carefull of permissions, it is executed as root I beleave.08:05
dabaRfatehaze: it is called the gdm login screen, it is customizable under System>Prefs, or System>Admin more likely.08:06
fatehazeAwesome, thanks again08:06
nrdbOverclocked_486: its been a while since I done anything with cron and that wasn't on ubuntu.08:06
Overclocked_486nrdb: hmm... I can execute it as myself using sh and it's owner is root...08:06
rob_pOverclocked_486:  Could you paste your script to the pastebin?  Maybe someone could help if they saw it.08:06
whyameyeanybody have hibernate working in Breezy?08:07
Overclocked_486#!/bin/sh08:07
Overclocked_48608:07
Overclocked_486xmms --play08:07
rob_p!pastebin08:07
ubotufrom memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com08:07
Overclocked_486that's it08:07
nrdbOverclocked_486: has it got the shebag line "#~/bin/sh" at the top?08:07
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dpuppspeaking of customizing screens, is it possible to customize the screen where things display as: loading this.....OK (what is the name of that screen?)08:07
Overclocked_486#!/bin/sh08:07
nrdbOverclocked_486: thats "#!/bin/sh" at the top?08:07
Overclocked_486nrdb: yes08:08
linuksoOverclocked_486: try setting the full path to xmms in the script.08:08
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nrdbOverclocked_486: can't help much, maybe try a very simple script in its place just to test the cron timing.08:08
rob_pOverclocked_486:  What does your cron entry look like?08:09
nrdbOverclocked_486: echo the date to a file or something.08:09
kyncaniOverclocked_486: you want to start xmms from a cron job ?08:09
allison_1984what is the command line to uninstall an application ? :)08:09
cenopecanyone know how to mount an external hard drive08:09
cenopecusb08:09
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dabaRdpupp: the gnome splash screen that loads the panel, desktop and that?08:09
kyncaniallison_1984: apt-get08:10
dpuppdabaR, not sure... its the one that comes after grub...08:10
dabaRallison_1984: why use commands?. there is a nice gui program for that. would you like a command, or a walkthrough of using the GUI?08:10
linuksoallison_1984: suod aptitude remove <app>08:10
Overclocked_486rob_p: 55 6    * * *   overclocked     sh /etc/cron.daily/alarum.sh08:10
allison_1984kyncani > thats all ?08:10
nrdbOverclocked_486: "52 6    1 * *   root    test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report /etc/cron.monthly" everything after the 'root' is the command to run.08:10
kyncaniallison_1984: apt-get is the tool. man apt-get for details how to use it08:10
nrdbOverclocked_486: got to go now bye!08:10
Overclocked_486nrdb thanks08:10
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dabaRdpupp: oh, that one is very new, not much customization can be done yet, and I dont know how it can be done.08:11
allison_1984kyncani > ok...thanks guys ! :)08:11
kyncaninp08:11
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dabaRallison_1984: why use commands?. there is a nice gui program for that. would you like a command, or a walkthrough of using the GUI?08:11
Overclocked_486kyncani: I want to use xmms as an alarm clock, because my real alarm clock sucks.08:11
dpuppDabaR know if it can be turned off and just have the text flying by?08:11
fatehazeCan I install Xubuntu on powerpc architecture?08:11
kyncaniOverclocked_486: well, if you want to start an X app, you have to set DISPLAY i think08:11
dabaROverclocked_486: "man at" that could help.08:12
cafuegofatehaze: yes08:12
fatehazeThanks :)08:12
kyncaniOverclocked_486: but if you just want to control xmms, you should use xmms-shell methinks08:12
allison_1984dabaR > thing is I installed thru the x terminal, sometimes I don't find it in the add applications menu......anyway lemme try08:12
dabaRdpupp: you would edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file.08:12
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Overclocked_486kyncani: My script works fine. It's one line: "xmms -- play"08:13
dabaRallison_1984: use System>Administration>Synaptic package manager. visit http://dabar.selfip.org/synaptic.html for a short walkthrough. what commmand did you use to install the program?08:13
kyncaniOverclocked_486: as for the alarm thing, i think xmms-alarm is what you're looking for08:13
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kyncaniOverclocked_486: well, as it does work very fine, you do not have any problem now do you ? :)08:14
fatehazeIf I install Xubuntu with my current Ubuntu installation intact, I can switch between the two with the "sessions" button, right?08:14
allison_1984dpkg -i08:14
dpuppthanks dabaR08:14
Overclocked_486kyncani: it works fine when I invoke it with sh. Getting cron to invoke it's a whole different story.08:14
fatehazeOr should I just install xfce seperately?08:15
kyncaniOverclocked_486: as i said, three solutions : 1) use xmms-alarm 2) use xmms-shell 3) start xmms from cron but you have to set $DISPLAY08:15
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rob_pOverclocked_486:  So you can do, "/etc/cron.daily/alarum.sh" at the command prompt as your user, and it works?08:15
dabaRallison_1984: it will likely be shown in synaptic. for a command line tool, I, and many others, recommend aptitude for general use. "sudo aptitude install package" installs package, sudo aptitude remove package removes package, aptitude search keyword searched for a keyword in the name and description of a package.08:15
kyncaniOverclocked_486: using xmms-alarm being my choice08:15
frogzooOverclocked_486: oh, I guess your problem is youre trying to launch an X app from within cron - dont think this is possible08:15
Overclocked_486ah, ok.08:16
kyncanifrogzoo: it is possible08:16
dabaROverclocked_486: use "at" that could work.08:16
frogzooOverclocked_486: kyncani is right - you just need to set Display variable ?08:16
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frogzooie at the top of the script 'export Display=0.0'     iirc ?08:17
Overclocked_486you know, I give up. When it's executed as "sh /etc/cron.daily/alarum.sh" it's fine, when executed as "/etc/cron.daily/alarum.sh" it fries ESD.08:17
allison_1984dabaR > starting up the synaptics manager takes a lot more time than thru the terminal....that I must say....lol08:17
dabaRecho "xmms --play" |at 6am or something like that would do it.08:17
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dpupphow do i change the file association of *.pls files? I want XMMS to open them from now on.08:17
Overclocked_486where should I put the $DISPLAY ?08:17
dabaRallison_1984: the command line has its virtues off course. that is why I use that mostly for things like installation. but so does gui have advantages.08:17
frogzooOverclocked_486: 2nd line - after the #!/bin/sh08:18
dabaRdpupp: right click on one in the file manager window(nautilus) and select properties. under the open with tab, selecct the program you want.08:18
Overclocked_486frogzoo: Commented?08:18
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frogzoolike so 'export DISPLAY=:0.0' no comments08:18
dpuppperfect. Thanks dabaR08:18
Adrossdoes anyone have any experience using a video ipod on linux?08:18
Adrossspecifically ubuntu?08:19
dabaROverclocked_486: seriously you guys, try at, I think it is more fit for the jjob.08:19
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allison_1984dabaR > definitely for a noob like me !! ....ty08:19
Overclocked_486so before "xmms --play" I should have "export DISPLAY=:0.0"?08:19
frogzooOverclocked_486: give it a new line all of its own08:19
dabaRallison_1984: why it takes longer to load up is that it has to display all packages it knows about, that could be a very high number.08:20
Glossarydeluser doesnt do anything!!08:20
Orbordefrogzoo / Overclocked_486 : What are you doing?08:20
frogzooOrborde: Overclocked_486 is trying to start xmms from cron08:20
paul__wondering if anyone could tell me a decent terminal client ? specifcially for ssh to remote server to use irssi08:20
Overclocked_486Orborde: I'm trying to use xmms as an alarm clock using cron08:20
ShadowpillarOverclocked_486, or just do DISPLAY=:0 xmms --play08:20
OrbordeAhhh08:20
dabaRGlossary: did you give root permissions to someone you should not have? sudo deluser <username> removes a user from the system.08:20
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paul__atm i'm using the default terminal and its very lame looking :P08:20
dabaR!find terminal08:21
GlossarydabaR, it sais done.. but the files didnt get deleted.08:21
dabaR!+find terminal08:21
ubotuUbuntu Package Listing of 'terminal' (13 shown): fte-terminal ;; gnome-terminal ;; gnome-terminal-data ;; lessdisks-cloner-terminal ;; lessdisks-terminal ;; lessdisks-xterminal ;; multi-gnome-terminal ;; multi-gnome-terminal-doc ;; nautilus-open-terminal ;; sdm-terminal ;; terminal ;; xfce4-terminal ;; xterminal.08:21
dabaRGlossary: the /home/username file do not get deleted that way.08:22
Overclocked_486while I'm at it, is there a way to get ESD to restart without rebooting?08:22
paul__yer there are a few availible, i've just not used any of them i'd love something that is like putty, or like the iwhax terminal08:22
dabaROverclocked_486: are you in gnome?08:22
GlossarydabaR, oh... how?08:22
Overclocked_486dabaR: yes08:22
dabaRGlossary: what, how do you delete the files? rm.08:22
Glossaryoh okay..08:23
Glossarythanks ;)08:23
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dabaROverclocked_486: try just killall esd. and if it does not restart, run "nohup esd&"08:23
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dabaRGlossary: man rm for details if you are not sure.08:23
Glossaryyea i know how :)08:24
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Overclocked_486dabaR: still dead.08:24
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aftertaf_anyone know how tyo clone a floppy disk in linux?08:24
aftertaf_i got a msdos boot disk that is deaded, but linux can read it (surprise)08:25
aftertaf_and i need to make a new one.08:25
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dabaROverclocked_486: you killall-ed esd? it stayed dead? you ran "nohup esd&" and it did not run?08:26
frogzooaftertaf_:  dd if=/dev/fd0 of=/tmp/fd.bck - swap floppies ; dd if=/tmp/fd.bck of=/dev/fd008:26
cenopechey i guess my external hard drive is not being recognized by ubuntu anymore, anyone know y?08:26
morphixhmm.. i cant seem to get nvidia drivers to install anymore :(08:26
frogzoocenopec: whats changed? power? cables?08:27
Overclocked_486dabaR: yes. I ran killall esd, then ps ax | grep esd, which returned the grep, then nohup esd&. I then opened a new terminal and there was still no sound.08:27
aftertaf_nice one frogzoo .. that'll  do a byte for nyte copy, no need to format et al ? :)08:27
dabaRdid the nohup commmand produce a sound?08:27
khalifI really could use some help guys, :) !08:27
frogzooaftertaf_: correct08:27
khalifI'm trying to transfer some files from my iMac to my laptop running Kubuntu using my USB pen drive. Everytime i plug it into my usb port I get an error message saying that "media/sda4" doesn't exist. I've got my pen drive formatted as UNIX File System so why won't Kubuntu recognize it?08:27
cenopecnothing at all08:28
Overclocked_486dabar: No.08:28
dabaRkhalif: ls /media and tell us whether there is an sda408:28
cenopecand my windows comps still recognize it08:28
aftertaf_morphix:  what happened, an update?08:28
dabaROverclocked_486: run just esd in a terminal now.08:28
cenopecso its not hardware error08:28
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Overclocked_486dev/dsp: Device or resource busy08:29
aftertaf_argh i/o error08:29
aftertaf_guess its borked then08:29
NigelSkhalif: I'm not sure which filesystem you mean by unix filesystem?08:29
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frogzooaftertaf_:  guess theres bad sectors - Linux can read some, but not all08:29
cenopecfrogzoo: you have any idea?08:30
frogzoocenopec: show us the fstab line08:30
khalifdabaR: The console says: cdrom, cdrom0, floppy, floppy008:30
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khalifI don't even have a floppy drive!08:30
aftertaf_yup.08:30
dabaRkhalif: sudo mkdir /media/sda408:31
aftertaf_frogzoo:  its a ghost bootdisk... and funny that the error is on the actual driver for the NIC :] 08:31
aftertaf_long live bart's universal boot disk :] 08:31
khalifWill doing that make Kubuntu recognize my usb pen drive?08:31
cenopecfrogzoo: lol can you be more specific, still not that well versed in the commands08:31
dabaROverclocked_486: sudo lsof /dev/dsp08:32
frogzoocenopec: I assume youve tried a reboot?08:32
dabaRkhalif: that is the folder your error message tells you is missing. what the command will do, is create that folder. I can not tell whether it will fix your issue. you can only try.08:32
dabaRs/folder/directory08:33
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khalifThanks!08:33
cenopecyeah plenty of times08:33
frogzoocenopec: this is a USB external HDD?08:34
cenopecyeah its an old floppy drive i put it into an eclosure08:34
cenopecubuntu recognized it for about a week08:34
cenopecnow it just does nothing08:34
cenopecchanged the usb port, everytthing08:35
cenopeci figure its software error08:35
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morphixaftertaf_ no not an update..i have since formatted the pc08:36
frogzoocenopec: unfortunately I dont know that much about how the hotplug system works08:36
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dabaRkhalif: did that fix your issue?08:36
cenopecyeah i figured i am in a tight spot08:36
dabaRcenopec: a floppy disk drive is not called a hard disk drive..08:37
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khalifdabaR: Nope, still getting the same error message.08:38
bluefoxicyQuestion08:38
DJGreenhi ubundites08:38
bluefoxicywhy does ubuntu-desktop depend on libanything?!08:38
DJGreen:)08:38
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bluefoxicytry updating nessus in dapper08:39
DJGreendoes anyone else here have applications menu problem in dapper?08:39
khalifI thought that this new version of Ubuntu/Kubuntu was configured to use USB pen drives?08:39
bluefoxicyit wants to remove libgdchart-gd1-noxpm, python-gdchart, and ubuntu-desktop, and install libgdchart-gd2-noxpm08:39
DJGreenmy menu seems to stop working at least cannot access the applications menu08:39
bluefoxicywhich means no real programs are being removed08:39
khalifDo you think that I have to find a driver for it?08:39
bluefoxicyubuntu-desktop must depend on python-gdchart or libgdchart-gd1-noxpm08:40
frogzookhalif: mostly they work just as is08:40
bluefoxicywhich is retarded08:40
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bluefoxicyit should depend on an application which thus depends on one of those08:40
khalifI can't keep making cd's just to transfer a few files to my laptop....08:40
bluefoxicyand in my case, since no application depends on those two things, ubuntu-desktop should be able to stay without them.08:40
frogzookhalif: CD R/W :D08:40
morphixUSB thumb drive :P08:41
dabaRkhalif: "sudo mount /dev/sda4 /media/sda4" after plugging it in.08:41
khalifafter a while that's gonna fail from all of the re-writing to it.08:41
khalifOk. let me try that!08:41
DJGreenI am on Ubuntu ppc dapper. I love it since i now have 3d accelleration its great but the applictions menu is inaccessable. Any solutions anyone?08:41
morphixgot a usb thumb drive? lol.08:42
dabaRbluefoxicy: are you having a rant about how the development version is not perfect yet?08:42
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NigelSdabaR: directories in /media should be found as devices are added, e.g. you shouldn't have to make your own surely?08:42
bluefoxicydabaR:  Actually I'm more concerned with why a meta-package is run as it is.08:42
NigelSkhalif: what filesystem did you say it was formatted with again?08:42
dabaRNigelS: be my guest.08:43
khalifUNIX08:43
cenopecdaBaR: what did you mean by that earlier 'A floppy disk drive is not called a hard disk drive08:43
dabaRkhalif: is that under macOS?08:43
NigelSkhalif: what do you mean by unix? what did you format that with?08:43
dabaRcenopec: is it a hard disk, or a floppy drive?08:43
khalifYep! :)08:43
bluefoxicydabaR:  It's like if the package openoffice.org2 depended on openoffice.org2-writer and glibc and libgtk+ and all the other libs openoffice.org2-writer depended on, instead of just openoffice.org2-writer which depends on all those anyway.08:43
NigelSkhalif: can macosx understand fat32?08:43
cenopecits an external hard disk08:43
cenopecit was a floppy a couple days ago but i gave up on that08:43
dabaRNigelS: in MacOSX they have an option to format as Unix type. I think it is ext, but not 100% sure, I bet he can find that out with fdisk.08:43
khalifIt's a Sandisk usb pen drive.08:43
bluefoxicydabaR:  as soon as oowriter2 no longer needs something, suddenly a meta-package wants it for no reason.08:44
morphixkhalif so is mine :D08:44
cenopecits a 2.5 inch 6 gig hard drive in an enclosure08:44
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cenopecits usb08:44
fr500hello08:44
morphixSandisk Cruzer Micro08:44
bluefoxicydabaR:  this is going on with ubuntu-desktop, evidently; it apparently depends on miscillaneous libraries and python components that certain programs need.08:44
bluefoxicydabaR:  for reasons i can't explain.08:44
fr500a question, how can i insall some hoary packages in breezy? changing repositories?08:44
dabaRif you remove a dependency of a program, that is a dependency of another program, 3 programs will be remove,08:45
Thirstehfr500, yes, but why do that?08:45
fr500bluetooth sw  from hoary worked better for me08:45
khalifYeah, i formatted it in UNIX File System. I thought that would be more compatible than MS-DOS (yuck!)08:45
cenopecdabaR: you know anything about my prob?08:45
Thirstehfr500, if you add the hoary mirrors, it's possible, but I don't recommend it -- and you might run into a dependency chaos08:45
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Razor-Xkhalif: UNIX file system?08:46
DJGreenfr500 change the repositories by adding multiverse and universe to the repo area08:46
cenopecdabaR: ubuntu recognized it for about a week, but then now i plug it in and nothing happens08:46
DJGreenwhere it says main restricted08:46
fr500DJGreen, i have the packages08:46
khalifYeah, it's a format option in OS X08:46
DJGreeni see08:46
fr500but they dont worl08:46
fr500work08:46
Razor-Xahhh08:46
DJGreenuse synaptic08:46
fr500Thirsteh, both gnome-phone-manager and gnome-bluetooth from hoary work for me 100% contrary from the newer ones in breezy08:46
Razor-Xweird08:46
dpuppis there a way to play midi in XMMS? i dont really like having to type "pmidi midifilename.mid" in a terminal to hear midi.08:46
NigelSkhalif: fat32 is generally a good choice for usb drives08:46
khalifShould I reformat it as something else08:47
Thirstehfr500, if that's what you want to do then adding the Hoary mirrors is what you want to do, just add the mirrors, get the packages and get them removed again asap08:47
_native_Razor-X; sup08:47
Thirstehfr500, the mirrors that is08:47
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khaliffat32 isn't an option on my iMac, jsut MS-DOS, UNIX File System and HFS+08:47
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dabaRcenopec: what drive is it?08:48
Hoxzercan I use terminal server client to connect to the nXserver?08:48
DJGreeni can't stand not having a working gnome panel08:48
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DJGreeni think its a bug in dapper's gnome panel08:48
_native_DJGreen; what happened?08:48
DJGreenanyone else have this problem?08:48
dabaRkhalif: that file system should definitely be fine. the mount /dev/sda4 /media/sda4 did what?08:48
_native_ahh..08:48
fr500Thirsteh, add or replace, which is better?08:48
khalifdabaR: How do I specify the filesystem type with that mount command?08:49
cafuegokhalif: Linux can read and write HFS just fine.08:49
DJGreenmy gnome-panel application menu doesnt work it flashes the menu but then shows me no menu08:49
Thirstehfr500, add, you'll want to remove the mirrors after installation08:49
abydosugh, I hate making decisions like this.08:49
DJGreenvery frustrating08:49
DJGreenplaces and system menu works fine08:49
khalifreally?08:49
cafuegokhalif: hfs+ too for that matter, though it will eventualkly require OSX disk ustils to fix.08:49
DJGreenbut only applications menu does the bitch number with me08:49
fr500Thirsteh, ok, and only the main repo or multiverse and everything08:49
cenopecdabaR: its a usb enclosure, an old laptop hard drive, 6 gigs,08:49
cafuegokhalif: Yes, even on ia32 :-)08:49
khalifwhat's ia32?08:50
cafuegokhalif: 32bit Intel08:50
dabaRkhalif: -t <type> but I am not sure what osX means by Unix.08:50
cafuegodabaR: ffs (bsd)08:50
Thirstehfr500, try the main one for starters, since it's a bluetooth package I suppose it's there08:50
abydosDo I want to upgrade my desktop to an a64, and have to buy a new HD, CPU, mobo, and RAM, or do I want to build a completely new machine, based on an a64, with all-new RAM, only 1 HD, and one optical drive?08:50
cafuegoSorry, ufs08:50
dabaRcafuego: how can he then specify that mount?08:50
abydoserr, at that rate, it's cheaper to build a new box08:51
abydossince I'd have to buy a new gfx card anyway..08:51
cafuegodabaR: mount -t ufs /dev/hdXY /mnt/poin08:51
cafuegotry that first, you may need specific ufs mount options (see man mount)08:51
fr500Thirsteh, they should keep old versions on the server :p08:51
dabaRkhalif: try that, replace the two /dev /mnt with what we said.08:51
khalifOk...08:51
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cafuegoYou may need '-o 44bsd' too (I think)08:52
NigelSI was just suspicious that the error is not entirely accurate, e.g. macos formatted the drive strangely, and kde spits out that error08:52
ryan__hum... so say I have aptly-gotten a package at some stage... how do I know where to find it?08:52
NigelSwhy not try, khalif typing tail -f /var/log/messages in a terminal and then plugging it in, see what it says regarding the device08:52
DJGreenanyone else on ubuntu ppc and on dapper ?08:53
cafuegoDJGreen: Does dapper ppc have kernel 2.6.15 yet?08:53
DJGreenlet's see what i have08:53
DJGreenLinux hell 2.6.15-6-powerpc #1 Thu Dec 1 03:54:10 UTC 2005 ppc GNU/Linux08:54
cafuegoneet08:54
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DJGreenoh yeah this version has parts of xorg 708:54
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DJGreenwhich also means i have 3d accelleration on my powerbook 1708:54
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DJGreengood news for all ppc users08:55
dabaRryan__: where to find which part of the package? sudo dpkg -L <packageName> will tell you all files in the packkage, I think.08:55
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_native_cafuego; likes saying "mac mini" ;] 08:55
DJGreenmac mini is a pill08:55
DJGreenheh08:55
dabaRryan__: you dont have to use sudo for the command.08:55
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robotgeekDJGreen: do the older powerbooks (2001) get the nice 3-D (i think not)08:55
DJGreenin dapper yes08:55
ryan__dabaR thanks.. let me play around with that for a minute08:56
DJGreenit uses r300 and other drivers08:56
cafuegorobotgeek: Not the wallstreet etc ones.08:56
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dabaRIll tell you what's good news for all ppc users - apple signed with intel.08:56
DJGreenthe older ones should have 3d out of the box08:56
cafuegothe mini has a 9200 se, works fine already.08:56
robotgeekcafuego: no, it's a powerbook G4, ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x (rev 02)08:56
DJGreenintel sucks still08:56
DJGreenapple should have gone with amd08:56
dabaRapple still sucks too.08:56
cafuegorobotgeek: That should already work.08:57
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DJGreenwell let's not knock machines here08:57
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DJGreenpeople like what they have08:57
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dabaRno, I don't.08:57
cafuegodabaR: A driver for the broadcom *is* under development :-)08:57
DJGreeni am a pro mac user here but i support pc's cause08:57
dabaRcafuego: no. wow, what great news.08:57
DJGreenso putting it together i think apple would have strived better with amd08:57
robotgeekcafuego: i don't have direct rendering on mine08:57
morphixi like pc's with the 'byo' type of stuff08:58
DJGreentobotgeek install dapper08:58
DJGreenif you really want the 3d accelleration08:58
DJGreenits out of the box on dapper but also unstable mind you.08:58
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robotgeekDJGreen: i've lived without 3D acceleration for an year now, i don't mind waiting for another 4 months or so.08:58
khalifguys: with that sudo /mnt/poin I got a message saying "mount: mount point /mnt/poin does not exist"08:58
DJGreenwell according to adc apple the next expo will be releasing the laptops with intel chips08:59
cafuegoir is what an U3?08:59
dabaRkhalif: sudo mount -t ufs /dev/sda4 /media/sda408:59
Hobbseekhalif: sudo mkdir /mnt/poin08:59
DJGreenhehe robotgeek its pretty good but suityourself08:59
DJGreenxorg 7 should be a blessing for all of us not just apple geeks08:59
robotgeekDJGreen: plus, i have an ibook which has 3D accel anyways08:59
DJGreenyeh08:59
DJGreenso you're all good08:59
DJGreeni'm just happy because powerbook 17 is an issue bitch09:00
robotgeekDJGreen: oh well, my powerbook apparently now has direct rendering support09:00
DJGreenmy powerbook is the drama queen of all ppc09:00
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DJGreenit was an issue for me until happer09:00
cafuegodabaR: You're aware of http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/ ?09:00
DJGreendapper rather09:00
DJGreenhaha09:00
fr500Thirsteh, can i make synpatic not update the packages after doing all this?09:00
DJGreenbroadcom company itself is developing for x86 mac version09:01
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morphixi would get a PPC IF they didnt cost so much.. and if they were able to be totally custom built.09:01
DJGreenapple happens to make universal binaries09:01
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DJGreenthat's why i see it coming to ppc09:01
robotgeekdabaR: the driver already compiles. on 2.6.15 (the dev claims to have sent the email using those drivers)09:01
cafuegodabaR: Oh, it looks like they have a _working_ version now.09:01
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DJGreenin a couple months finally after years of waiting ppc folks will be able to join the rest09:02
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DJGreeni know how it felt to be a ppc linux fan and be behind on all the good stuff09:02
robotgeekDJGreen: yay!09:02
DJGreenlike doom3 on linux09:02
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cafuegoToo bad Apple will probably go Centrino now that there's a working-ish broadcom driver :-P09:02
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DJGreeni doubt apple will go gentoo09:02
DJGreeni bet you more than anything it will be debian/gnu darwin09:03
DJGreenlook it up on sourceforge09:03
DJGreendebian gnu darwin09:03
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DJGreengentoo is a compile your own style os09:03
dabaRcafuego: I could not care less, I wont be buying any more apples like this anyhow. if they come up with a better product, I may buy one.09:03
DJGreenosx is already like that09:03
DJGreenwith darwinports09:03
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DJGreenthat's probably what he meant about gentoo on osx09:04
DJGreenits a compile file system09:04
cafuegodabaR: the Quad G5 seems nice09:04
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DJGreendabar you should welcome anyone09:04
DJGreenthat's what this place is for09:04
DJGreenx86/ppc09:04
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DJGreenall linux users are the same at elast as of now.09:04
linuxboyI got this strange problem in openoffice on breezy09:05
ubuntu2when I'm enabling a 0x82 swap partition I need to mkswap then swapon and thats it?09:05
cafuegoubuntu2: Yep09:05
ubuntu2cool, danke09:05
linuxboyI have 2 PCs that run Openoffice and they have numbers that change on a save in calc09:05
cafuegoubuntu2: To auomate it, add a swap entry in /etc/fstab09:05
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seliniumGood Morning all!09:06
ubuntu2err... right, /dev/hdc3 swap swap defaults 0 009:06
ubuntu2 is what it made :D09:06
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cafuegoSeems about right09:06
fr500i downloaded a source deb, how can i recompile it against different deps? or however its called09:07
cafuegoEh09:07
cafuego/dev/hdc3 none swap defaults 0 009:07
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DJGreeni have to say one messed up issue09:07
ubuntu2is the /experimental/livecd able to use a swap partition so it doesnt seek constantly09:08
DJGreenwhat you all think about france going closed source09:08
DJGreen?09:08
DJGreenif that happens good bye freedom linux09:08
ubuntu2.. never liked the french :P09:08
cafuegoubuntu2: I believe it automatically uses it if it finds one at bootup09:08
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acid2g'mornin09:08
ubuntu2moin acid209:08
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tempest_hey, anybody know how to add plugins for totem?09:08
acid2could anyone help me to fix this compile error: http://rafb.net/paste/results/VhKcM486.html ?09:08
fr500i mean, i downloaded gnome-phone-manager 0.4 source debs, now i want to recompile it against some different libs i have09:08
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dabaRDJGreen: it is not a mater of not welcoming someone, it is a matter of a discussion of something not classifiable as "ubuntu support" people's questions are not being answered. I am always on #ubuntu-offtopic09:09
seliniumDJGreen:? How can an entire county go Closed source?09:10
DJGreenfor curiosity sakes what is everyone's favorite irc client for ubuntu?09:10
dabaRDJGreen: as well, visit gnu.org/philosophy, to learn the name of the OS.09:10
DJGreenoh its all good dabar09:10
DJGreenwasnt knockin09:10
DJGreen:)09:10
acid2DJGreen: I'm an IRSSI user09:10
morphixirssi :)09:10
DJGreeni am an xchat user09:10
DJGreenbut i like irssi09:10
DJGreen:)09:10
morphixxchat IF i am using GUI.. lol09:10
seliniumDJGreen, I'll answer in #ubuntu-offtopic ! :)09:10
DJGreenhaha09:11
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dabaRits a used channel09:11
DJGreenjoin #ubuntu-offtopic09:11
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DJGreenwhoops09:11
dabaRtempest_: did you read the codecs page of the wiki?09:11
DJGreendoh!09:11
seliniumlol09:11
ubuntu2well on breezy, the default boot doesnt include any swap when found. system monitor says 0 bytes of 0 bytes until you swapon09:11
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darkoHi! I would like to disable taskbar grouping of the same programs. Can anyone help?09:12
fr500tempest_, it depends if the backend is xine or gstreamer i think09:12
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dabaRubuntu2: those do not seem like sentences.09:13
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zorba64darko: as grouping on gnome taskbar...try right clicking and see what u find09:14
dj_iwan_daHi every body.. srry for waiting.. would you like to join..09:15
darkozorba64: I tried that, but there is no apropriate option :-(09:15
linuxboyEverytime I save a calc spreadsheet, it changes my values on the next open. Why is it doing this?09:15
zorba64darko: right-click on the handle where you apps are grouped09:16
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joedj_anyone know what i need to get quicktime working in xine?09:17
dj_iwan_dayeah.. i'd to talk about anything.. expecialy abaout Indonesian country.. well i't our country..09:18
zorba64joedj: w32codecs09:18
darkozorba: I did, but there is no option for disabling it.09:18
blue-frogjoedj, wiki.edubuntu.com > starter guide09:18
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fr500!tell joedj about w32codecs09:18
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joedj_blue-frog: hrm, nothing there apart from an odd directory list09:19
dj_iwan_dahai joedj.. don't work so hart.. enjoy your live..09:19
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joedj_fr500: nothing told me, yet ;-)09:19
blue-frogjoedj, choose the starter guide link09:19
joedj_blue-frog: there are no links, just a directory list09:20
fr500joedj, got the msg form /msg /msg joedj  told joedj about w32codecs (methinks w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-fda9cc5147253891fe3047263b82d787ab025bba to install)09:20
joedj_blue-frog: httpS did the trick, though09:20
joedj_fr500: i'm joedj_ :)09:20
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fr500wew09:20
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dj_iwan_dadag.. every body.. i've to leave now.. see you thank09:21
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ishitanyone any help on ubuntu sources.list09:22
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dabaRishit: how do you pronounce your nick?09:22
aftertafishit:  whats te pb?09:22
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ishitbackports r closed09:22
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ishitwhere can i get the latest sources.list available09:23
antixokay, I installed firefox 1.5 and used automatix to install java, etc... they work in the old firefox version, but not in 1.5. any suggestions?09:23
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deFryskantix, stop using automatix is my first suggestion09:23
antixuh okay09:24
joedj_thanks for the help, folks09:24
darkozorba64: You we're right, I was clicking on wrong part of taskbar. It works as I wanted now. Thanks!09:24
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antixdeFrysk: did you have any further suggestions?09:25
fr500joedj, did it work?09:25
fr500i mean, didi you get it?09:25
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ishithello can anyone help09:25
antixor was "first" for comedic value?09:25
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deFryskantix, in the wiki is a howto for firefox1.509:26
antixyeah I know09:26
deFryskantix, did you use that howto ?09:26
joedj_fr500: actually no, this is an AMD64 machine so i'm still stumped :)09:26
fr500oh09:26
fr500crap09:26
antixyes09:26
joedj_maybe VLC can do it09:26
fr500i got one too (but no linux yet) the alienware is for gaming :p09:27
ishitanyone got the latest ubuntu sources.list09:27
fr500altough i feel intrigued09:27
zorba64darko: thought it might...good & np09:27
antix1.5 works fine, it's just the plugins I'm having issues with09:27
dabaR!sources09:28
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic09:28
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dabaRthe Breezy one is out of date.09:28
deFryskantix, did you read the : Link to your plugins (and remove totem-mozilla as it doesn't seem to work with Firefox 1.5): bit ?09:29
antixdeFrysk, I did09:29
deFryskantix, and apply it ?09:29
joedj_fr500: gotta run, i'll drop in if i figure anything out :)09:29
antixyes... I'll do it again just to be redundant and make sure09:29
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fr500kk09:30
deFryskantix, also check the automatix script , the cause might lay there09:30
khalifThis this is crazy! I'm reading entries in the Kubuntu forum where a couple people experienced the same problem as me. Only they didn't have 3.5 and when they installed the 3.5 beta their problem with the usb drives went away. I've got the final 3.5 version, but I'm having the same problem that they used to.09:30
blue-frogIam looking for someone kind enoguh to give me a wroking example of how using /etc/skel. (goole is full of theory which I am not able to translate in wroking stuff), pls09:30
dabaRishit: if you are looking to add the backports to your sources.list, visit http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports for instructions09:31
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antixhm.. what would I be looking for there?09:31
khalifWhy can't stuff just work? Why do I have to do all of this workaround crap to get things to work that should already be working?09:31
deFryskantix, dunno , ask the maker of the script09:31
antixcool beans09:31
khalifI'm really getting frutrated with Linux..09:32
dabaRkhalif: cause it is more fun. and lets you get embarassed in front of friends and family.09:32
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blue-frogI am looking for someone kind enoguh to give me a working example of how using /etc/skel. (goole is full of theory which I am not able to translate in working stuff), pls09:32
blue-frogsry09:32
zorba64khalif: isn't your laptop a little old?09:32
paul__what do i need for 'make' ?09:32
antixI went the forums, and the best answer I seemed for find for installing java, flash, etc. was automatrix... but apparently it only automatically installs for the old version. I don't understand why the plugins wouldn't work, though, given that everything is properly linked.09:33
blue-frogpaul--, apt-get install build-essential09:33
deFryskantix, the prob with that script reveals itself now, you have no idea of whats installed and whats not ;)09:33
antixI know what's installed, it's just improperly installed09:33
antixif I run "firefox.ubuntu" all the stuff works09:33
khalifThat yes, it is a bit old (four or five years), but still when i had WindozeXp (yuck!) everything worked fine. Sure it doesn't have a firewire drive. Sure it doesn't have an Ethernet port, but it still worked.09:34
paul__blue-frog, cheers09:34
deFryskantix, if the plugins are copied and symlinked properly it should work09:34
antixyeah, that's my theory.. unfortunately it isn't so09:34
khalifLet me calm down. Has anyone else experienced problems with mounting usb pen drives?09:34
deFryskantix, next time stay away from automatix and alike script , use the help and wiki files and we and you know whats installed and whats not and how09:35
robotgeekdeFrysk: AFAIK, the script used to install java debs from the plf repositories09:36
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zorba64antix: the wiki is the place to go first imho, then the forums etc09:36
antixum okay09:36
deFryskrobotgeek, possibly , dont know09:36
antixwell the wiki doesn't google well apparently09:36
robotgeekantix: the wiki doesn't do google09:37
antixnothing turns up in google but forums09:37
robotgeekdeFrysk: i dunno about the newer version too09:37
deFryskantix, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html09:37
antixbut I'll take that as a get lost and use the wiki09:37
deFryskantix,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation09:37
robotgeekantix: the wiki also has a search function :)09:37
antixyes yes...09:37
deFryskantix, those are the resources to use09:37
zorba64antix: it here https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FrontPage09:37
Browni tried ubuntu live cd today, i was unable to access the web via firefox inside of x, but from a terminal I was able to ping outside addresses, i'm a n00b, but is this a common fixable thing?09:38
paul__any ideas how i would fix this: (installing vmware workstation) http://pastebin.com/45070409:38
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blue-frogpaul--, u need to install gcc3.4 and export its path09:39
dabaRBrown: if you can ping, in general, you can surf.09:39
dabaRBrown: ping domain names worked?09:40
blue-frogpaul--, http://users.linuxbourg.ch/waver/blog/index.php?2005/10/18/61-installer-vmware-sous-ubuntu-breezy09:40
blue-frog  in french but command lines are command lines...09:40
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Brownthat's what I found strange, dhcp worked, it had a local ip, but no browser ability to connect09:40
paul__thanks yet again!09:40
Brownyeah, could ping google, but not surf there09:40
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antixTitle Search: "firefox 1.5"09:41
antix 0 results of about 6233 pages. (0.19 seconds)09:41
antixer...09:41
antixyeah, helpful, that09:41
deFryskantix, search firefox09:41
antixyeah, that didn't turn up much of use either. anyway, I'll figure it out.09:41
dabaRBrown: dunno, I know what I could try, like, clear out browser, "sudo iptables --flush" but those should not make a difference, since it is a new live boot.09:41
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thomerzhi, where do i find the file, where the menu architecture is saved?09:43
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Brownk, wish i was in front of it, just decided to try the irc room, i'll be back on tomarrow, what would be a way to test another x program, or are x programs any different from terminal apps09:44
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robotgeekthomerz: might be ~/.local/share/applications/menu-xdg/09:44
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Browndoes ubuntu default install lynx, pinging a site might not be enough to test connct ability09:45
CppIsWeirdcan anyone help me out, i just installed kubuntu on my external USB hard drive, and everything went smoothe until i go to grub, it wanted to install on my main master boot record to handle booting for my main OS, and thats not what i wanted it to do, so not knowing the path (/dev/sda/) to the usb drive, i backed up, and went into the partitioning and wrote it down, went back into grub where it wouldent allow me to write a bo09:45
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thomerzrobotgeek: there are only a few .desktop files09:46
robotgeekthomerz: one sec09:46
CppIsWeirdmy two questions are is, one is there a way to get  grub on there without having to do the whole install again, and two, just so i dont run into this wall again, i can just install grub straight to the USB hard drive, what i want to do is make the bios boot off the usb if i want to get there09:46
kwtm1CppIsWeird: Are you trying to say that you wanted to boot Kubuntu from your external USB drive?09:46
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CppIsWeirdyes09:46
CppIsWeirdbut i dont want grub or anything on my internal hard drive09:46
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CppIsWeirdi want to select usb hard drive to boot from bios09:46
robotgeekthomerz: sorry, i know it's a xml file, let me look harder09:47
UbuntuRobHas anyone in here had experience with Enlightenment in Ubuntu??09:47
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kwtm1CppIsWeird: hmm... good question.  If your bios lets you boot from there, then technically you should be able to do it,09:47
kwtm1but I don't know how much of the kernel can be loaded via USB.09:48
thomerzrobotgeek: would be nice, but don't hurry :>09:48
CppIsWeird... that wasnt my question09:48
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CppIsWeirdall of it can be09:48
kwtm1I'm thinking that, before Linux is up and running fully (or substantially), it might not be able to access the USB parts.09:48
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kwtm1I guess I just don't have enough experience to answer that question.09:48
CppIsWeirdi guess the question is how do i install grub on another partition then the first drive?09:48
blue-frogpaul--, the howto i've given u work for vmware 5....124.  with the new vmware release u don't need the any-any trick just use the export trick09:49
kwtm1From the command line, how does one get a list of packages or look for a package?  I tried "dpkg -l MyPackageName", but that seems to yield no results whereas using Adept or Kynaptic shows the package name clearly listed.09:49
UbuntuRobCppIsWeird: Can you install GRUB to a Floppy and copy it over to the USB Drive?????09:49
CppIsWeirdhmm09:49
BrowndabaR: just getting my irc legs back, any thoughts about other x/terminal apps I can try to test my connectability, the nic card is an onboard gigbit card, could just be a poorly adapted driver09:49
CppIsWeirdwould i just copy it?09:49
CppIsWeirddoesnt grub have to be set to boot09:49
UbuntuRobAs far as I know that should be what you have to do09:50
CppIsWeirdim still somewhat unsure as to exactly how grub functions09:50
CppIsWeird*not grub, i mean boot sectors and etc.09:50
robotgeekthomerz: my grep is working :). however, the file extension is .menu09:50
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UbuntuRobit should be the same as booting linux from a floppy!09:50
robotgeekthomerz: /.config/menus/*09:51
kwtm1UbuntuRob: no, I don't think it's the same as botting linux from a floppy09:51
robotgeekthomerz: maybe that one09:51
kwtm1For starters, I don't think grub supports floppies.09:51
CppIsWeirdyes it does09:51
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kwtm1So, the question is, does grub support USB drives?09:51
UbuntuRobthen why does ubuntu allow you to install GRUB to a floppy disk?????09:51
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CppIsWeirdhmm09:52
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CppIsWeirdima go try something09:52
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CppIsWeirdhope it work09:52
CppIsWeirds09:52
kwtm1It does?  Hmm, clearly I don't know what I'm talking about.  I'll just keep quiet, then.09:52
UbuntuRobAll you can do is give it a try!!!09:52
CppIsWeirdi really dont want to start from the beginning of installation again09:52
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thomerzrobotgeek: one moment, i will have a look09:53
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_StraTDeS_Hi people, I need some help to install ubuntu because I have a problem with the hd and the cdrom (rare problem). I am shearcing info for months and I don't find anything. Anyone can help me please?09:53
vbgunzanyone in here a bit familiar with GnuPG?09:53
poningruyeah09:53
poningru_StraTDeS_: whats the problem?09:53
robotgeekvbgunz: slightly, why?09:53
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vbgunzrobotgeek: when you --list-sig a key what do the numbers after sig mean?09:53
_StraTDeS_[poningru]  i have a sata disk, seagate, model st3200822as09:54
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vbgunzrobotgeek: I have sig 2 and sig 3 on a key... not sure what it means09:54
poningru_StraTDeS_: what version of ubuntu are you using?09:54
poningruerr trying to install09:54
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robotgeekvbgunz: me neither, sorry :(09:54
_StraTDeS_5.10 amd09:54
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vbgunzrobotgeek: thats cool :)09:54
robotgeekvbgunz: tho, i only have sig3's .09:54
vbgunzrobotgeek: what do you mean?09:55
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robotgeekvbgunz: no sig 2's. i see all sig 3's09:55
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vbgunzrobotgeek: ahh09:55
robotgeekvbgunz: disregard, i have no clue what i am talking about. lol09:55
olicatmorning all. if i've got an svn server, how can i create a new project on there?09:56
vbgunzrobotgeek: I think those numbers signify the level of trust that signer has given that key...09:56
roycei tried ubuntu live cd today, i was unable to access the web via firefox inside of x, but from a terminal I was able to ping outside addresses, any ideas?09:56
thomerzrobotgeek: wasn't the right file ;(09:56
vbgunzrobotgeek: 1 being don't know and 5 being I trust completely or something...09:56
Hoxzer__how do I set timer for command?09:56
_StraTDeS_any idea poningru?09:56
robotgeekvbgunz: hmm, my keysigns have all been very trusted.09:56
poningru_StraTDeS_: hold on still looking09:56
vbgunzrobotgeek: not sure, just think those number mean the "level of trust"09:57
robotgeekthomerz: sorry, then. ask around09:57
kongopart #ubuntu su09:57
robotgeekvbgunz: hmm, nvm09:57
blue-frogroyce, /etc/resolv.conf needs a nameserver entry09:57
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_StraTDeS_ok09:57
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vbgunzrobotgeek: just trying to confirm the meaning of those numbers :P09:57
olicatany ideas how to create a new project with svn?09:58
poningru_StraTDeS_: its just grub that doesnt install right?09:58
royceblue-frog: like pico that file and enter a dns server address?09:58
_StraTDeS_[poningru]  no09:58
_StraTDeS_ubuntu don't detect my hd and can't install nothing09:58
blue-frogroyce, yes    nameserver 212.27.32.5   for example09:58
poningru_StraTDeS_: oh really?09:58
blue-frogroyce, use your provider dns of course09:59
poningru_StraTDeS_: try updating the bios09:59
_StraTDeS_[poningru]  problem updating the bios because in an hp modified bios09:59
poningruoh hmm09:59
poningruyeah I dont know what to tell you dude, try posting in the forums09:59
_StraTDeS_ok thnx...10:00
royceblue-frog: sure, is this a common thing, could I have changed something in my install to have avoided this error?10:00
poningruwait around till this channel gets more populated and ask again10:00
ishithow do i make a fat partition writable in breezy10:00
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blue-frogroyce, depends on how your netowrk is setup10:00
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royceblue-frog: pc-switch-dslmodem, dhcp assigned ip10:01
royceblue-frog: let me know if I'm askin too many questions, hate to wear my welcome, just heavily curious, seems like a really sweet distro10:02
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blue-frogroyce, maybe dhcp is not assiging correctly the dns servers10:02
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royceblue-frog: the eth0 properties showed my primary dns server, in any case i'll ry that fix tomarrow, if it doesn;t werk, i'll definately be back, thanx for the help10:04
blue-frogroyce, ok10:05
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ericwhello10:06
ericwhas anybody gotten dual monitors to work with an ati radeon 9800?10:07
poningru_StraTDeS_: dude do you have other drives?10:07
poningrunot just SATA10:07
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_StraTDeS_[poningru]  only this drive, this is the problem10:09
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poningru_StraTDeS_: hmm yeah I am seeing problems with people that have SATA+IDE drives10:09
poningruI am not seeing problems with just sata drives10:10
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CppIsWeirdok, well i re-did the installation, and typed in /dev/sda (my usb drive) and it ran through everything just fine and peachy... but when i tell the bios to boot off my usb drive, it doesnt, explinations?10:13
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_StraTDeS_i go to try bios update10:15
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CppIsWeirdhmm, you really thing its the bios?10:15
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CppIsWeirdhmm... that assumes i remember what board is in my PC :-P10:15
_StraTDeS_i am speaking about my problem cppisweird10:15
_StraTDeS_not your10:16
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CppIsWeirdoh10:16
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CppIsWeirdlmfao10:16
CppIsWeirdyour prolly right anyways10:16
jcsgbuenos dias10:16
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jcsgbuenos dias alguien me lee10:18
Seveas!es10:18
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.10:18
jcsgme hablas a mi10:18
_StraTDeS_[jcsg] 10:18
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_StraTDeS_este es el irc ingles10:19
_StraTDeS_entra en ubuntu-es10:19
_StraTDeS_o habla ingls10:19
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jcsgdesde el navegador10:19
_StraTDeS_desde un programa de irc10:19
Seveas_StraTDeS_, please stick to english in here10:19
jcsgvale muchas gracias10:19
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khalifOk, ok, ok ok! I'm learning now!10:20
pramzhi hi10:20
_StraTDeS_[Seveas]  yes sorry I was explaining this to jcsg10:20
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jcsgpero el espaol es una de las lenguas mas habladas en el mundo pero bueno no pasa nada10:20
Seveas_StraTDeS_, ah ok10:20
PaulieHello, I just made the transition from XP, now I have loads of audio stuff on my windows partition, I cannot play them in rythmbox ( however I can play them in 'xmms' )10:21
Pauliewhat is wrong?10:21
Seveas!tell Paulie about mp310:23
Seveas(xmms has mp3 decoding built-in, for rhythmbox you need gstreamer0.8-mad)10:23
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khalifWhen I click on my hardrive icon on the desktop, Konquerer opens and the harddrive appears in browser as "media:/hda1". the error message that I get when I try to mount my usb jumpdrive is: "Error: no file/folder exists at media:/sda1". media:/sda1 means that there should be a folder called 'sda1' at the root right?10:24
xspadeshow are you mounting the usb drive?10:24
desplesdakhalif:  actually no, media:/sda1 means it's accessing data through the device /dev/sda110:24
Paulieok i get it! thanks10:25
khalifWell then I don't understand why I'm still getting an error message. I created a directory called sda1 in the media folder which is where cd's and floppy's mount at.10:26
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khalifI edited the fstab like so: /dev/sda1      /media/sda1 auto defaults,users,noauto 0 010:27
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xspadesif it isnt mounted now try, sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda110:28
khalifAt first I had it as /media/usbdrive which made a usb drive icon appear, but when I changed it to /media/sda1 the usb drive icon disappeared.10:29
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ubuntu2ubuntu displays everything in /media on the desktop10:31
ubuntu2what was wrong with the /usbdisk entry? you wanted to give it a definite name10:31
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stratkingi'm having problems my install not connecting my wireless card10:33
khalifHold on a quick sec!10:33
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sioraistratking,  what kind of wireless do you have?10:34
stratkingnetgear wg311 v210:34
stratkingpci card10:34
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stratkingiwconfig gives me what looks to be the right output10:35
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stratkingi did a sudo ifup wlan0 and it get "SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable10:35
human_erroranyone know of a lightweight mp3 player that can delete the currently playing song?10:35
sioraiDoes the installer actually find the card?10:35
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stratkingi believe so, it pulls up as Nickname:"acx100 v0.2.0pre8" w/ iwconfig10:36
fdrHello... do you know if there is any gnome applet/application that displays a world clock? Thank you!10:36
stratkingthe card uses the acx chipset10:36
eobanb_which is better, reiser4, or XFS?10:37
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sioraiWell, tbh, I'm neither a ubuntu guru, or wireless chipset guru either, but, I can tell yuo that MY installer couldn't locate the network either10:37
khalifWhat is the OS X file system? HFS?10:37
eobanb_khalif, yes10:37
eobanb_HFS+10:37
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sioraiand I'm 4 feet from it, however, once it finished the install, I was able to connect via my wireless10:38
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khalifHFS+ would be Mac OS Extended right?10:38
sioraiThough mine was given the name eth110:38
eobanb_yes, khalif10:38
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stratkingyeah, when i installed, it found my card but said i was having dns problems10:38
khalifThanks! :)10:38
sioraiand I'm guessing you aren't having em10:38
sioraiYou've set it to automatically determine IP addy and all that correct?10:39
siorai(if that applies, and 9 times out of 10 it does)10:39
stratkingi tried it for both dhcp and static ip, telling it all the info10:39
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siorai*thinks* You shuoldn't have a static IP on a wireless network, though, heh10:40
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stratkingyeah i know but it was the only way i could even get one page to come up10:40
stratkinghad to put in the ip address but one came up10:40
sioraione page?10:40
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stratkingcan't get it to come up again though :(10:40
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sioraiTried restarting?10:40
stratkingi've tried logging out, should i do a full restart?10:41
siorai( sorry, old habits die hard )10:41
sioraifor some reason, it works on my system, and I don't know why10:41
siorai; /10:41
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stratkingi can try that10:41
EtnaRossomorning all, i need to install filezilla on my ubuntu, does anyone can help me?10:41
EtnaRossothanks in advance10:41
sioraiEtna you tried the packege management system?10:41
EtnaRossoi tried apt-get install filezilla10:42
EtnaRossobut no such package returns10:42
EtnaRossoplease my english10:42
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sioraienabled multiverse/universe?10:42
EtnaRossomultiverse?10:43
sioraiAdditional packeges maintained by the community10:43
sioraiat least I think ^^;;10:43
sretzkidumbledoore dies on page 606!!11210:43
sioraioh, the new harry potter book right?10:44
ubuntu2... SPOILERS /dev/null not here plz10:44
sretzkiyeah10:44
ubuntu2anyway that's old news :P10:44
RawplayerMI10:44
sioraiOh, for the record, Aeon Flux ROCKS10:44
Paradoxxsiorai: i actually just searched my cache awhile ago, and didn't see a firezilla.10:44
stratkingshould the connection properties for wlan0 have it listed as type: ethernet?10:44
ParadoxxEtnaRosso: firezilla is an ftp client right?10:44
EtnaRossoyes10:44
sioraiFirezilla ?10:44
NakkelEtnaRosso: Isnt Filezilla Windows software?10:45
sioraior FiLezilla ?10:45
ParadoxxEtnaRosso: is it absolutely neccesary that you use it?10:45
Paradoxxdon't see a file zilla for me either10:45
sioraiMine is stratking10:45
stratkingok, thanks10:45
blue-frogeating and drinking is absolutely necessary, nothing else10:46
Paradoxxbut yo ucan try yourself, just ensure you have added repos10:46
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Paradoxx!addingrepositories10:46
ubotuI don't know, Paradoxx10:46
NakkelThe only Filezilla I know: http://filezilla.sourceforge.net/10:46
sioraiblue frog, eating isn't even neccisary10:46
Paradoxxrepos10:46
EtnaRossois it a fools' channel?10:46
Paradoxx!repos10:46
uboturepos is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource10:46
EtnaRossoNakkel it is10:46
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blue-frogsiorai, tell that to ethiopan...10:46
EtnaRossothanks for nothing bye bye10:46
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ishithow do i enable write for a fat partition in breezy10:47
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sioraiI didn't think you could write to a win32 partition in linux??10:47
ishitof course thats poss10:48
sioraiWell, either way, I'd have to add 'dying' to that neccisary list10:48
mjrsiorai, you can't (easily or freely) write to an _ntfs_ partition in linux, writing fat works fine10:48
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sioraiAhhh, okay mjr10:49
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ubuntu2is the captive-ntfs in breezy any less prone to locking up the bus?10:50
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human_erroranyone know of a lightweight mp3 player that can delete the currently playing song?10:50
sioraidunno human_error10:50
topylihuman_error: "rm"10:50
human_errorbreaks my workflow to have to shell, find the file and rm it10:51
sretzkihuman_error: for i in *.mp3; do mpg123 $i || rm $i;done10:51
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sretzkior rather mplayer10:51
Jack_Bauersnape kills dumbledore10:51
Jack_BauerO RLY10:51
Jack_Bauer645 users10:52
Jack_Bauerwhoa!10:52
siorailol Jack_Bauer10:52
sretzkiif you kill it, it returns 1, if you quit it, it returns 010:52
sretzkiJack_Bauer: XD10:52
Jack_BauerXD pwnd n00b sretzki10:52
Jack_Bauerhow much are bots? 80% ;P10:52
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siorai<<< not a bot10:53
human_errorthanks sretzki, i'll play with some mplayers that can list the file.10:53
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Paradoxxme neither10:54
poningruI had a question why does hotplug detect a wireless card?10:54
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ParadoxxJack_Bauer: generally they are just persons who have signed in, and gone afk...10:54
poningruerr not detect10:54
freelovei dont hear sounds in gaim in kubuntu....plz help!10:54
ubuntu2thats what hotplug does10:54
poningrufreelove: dude I would use kopete10:54
poningruubuntu2: it doesnt detect10:54
poningruI forgot the not10:54
sapohi all, i installed e17 yesterday, and it set my cpu to run @ 800mhz, it is a 1.8ghz.. how am i supposed to set my cpu back at 1.8ghz without e17? thanx10:55
sapoand without restarting =x10:55
mischahi all, when i am in a terminal and ssh to somewhere i get the following message: setterm: $TERM is not defined. anyone know what that means...tanx in advance10:55
mischascp i mean10:55
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aftertafsapo:  that sounds all wrong.10:55
aftertafjoin #e and mention that.......10:56
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ubuntu2oh, sorry i never had wireless cards10:56
pramzmischa, what does echo $TERM output ?10:56
paul__wow, just setup ubuntu + vmware workstation for linux + windows xp pro as a virtual machine, sexy++++!10:56
topylisapo: a window manager surely shouldn't change clock speed. where do you see the value?10:57
sapotopyli it is an app to save power10:57
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stratk1ngi figured it out :)10:57
sapobut when i logged out from it, my cpu was still @ 800mhz10:57
topylisapo: oh, i thought you were talking about enlightenment :)10:57
stratk1nghad the wrong hostname in there from the install10:57
czrpaul__, except the win xp part ;-)10:57
poningrupaul__: dude dont use sexy and windows in the same sentence10:57
stratk1nggave it the right host name and it worked10:57
sapoi was, this app comes with enlightenment :P10:57
HappufHey what command build packet from source?10:58
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topyliHappuf: checkinstall10:58
sapowhat i wanna know is if there is some command or stuff to set up the cpu clock without restarting.. i got curious about it10:58
czrhappuf, depends on what kind of source it is10:58
topyliHappuf: or read the debian new maintainers guide if you want to do it properly10:58
czrHappuf, dpkg-buildpackage if it's a debianized source10:58
Happufczr: in my foulder.10:58
HappufOk :)10:58
HappufI'll try.10:59
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linxi was wondering if anyone could help me install COD(isos) in cedega.... i mount the first iso but when it asks for the 2nd i mount it and then it doesn't recognize it... anyone got any other ideas?10:59
czrsapo, it's regulated normappy by cpufreq governor in the kernel10:59
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czrsapo, so you need to dig info about that10:59
Jack_BauerParadoxx you mean 80% bots10:59
Jack_Bauer;P10:59
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Jack_Bauer~siorai 2+211:00
czrJack_Bauer, you get around I see :-)11:00
Jack_Bauerhaha hi czr11:00
Jack_Baueryeh am everywhere!11:00
czrwell, at least not on 50% freenode channels I'm on, so I guess I'm still safe ;-)11:00
Jack_Baueryou cannot escape from me11:00
czrI can, and I have :-)11:00
Jack_Bauer:P11:00
Jack_Bauernever i will hunt you down !11:00
Jack_Bauerheh11:00
czrI'm quite tall. so you need to hunt me up11:01
Jack_Bauerooo ;D11:01
czralthough I'm not that tall11:01
czrbut if you courch, that would still work11:01
czrcrouch even11:01
Jack_Bauer10 foot 10 inches11:01
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czrewww, imperial units11:01
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Jack_Bauerheh11:02
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czryou have switched to the dark side?11:02
stratk1ngso are multiverse/universe stable enough to use w/ 5.10?11:02
Chousukemost of it, yes.11:02
sapoczr thanx, found this http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_make_use_of_Dynamic_Frequency_Scaling#Using_Frequency_Scaling_Governors11:02
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czrsapo, looks right, have fun11:02
drakeoutlawhi all, has anybody managed to make intel HD audio modem to work?11:03
sapoi m interested in it, cause my pc is like 22 hours/day idle downloading stuff.. so i wanna know how to use it by hand without e17 :)11:03
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czrsapo, if it's idle, then the default governor should handle it11:03
czrsapo, it will scale based on CPU load11:03
czrdefault governor in ubuntu that is11:04
sapoczr so it is @ 800mhz cause i m not stressing it?11:05
czrsapo, yes. use uptime-command to check load levels11:05
czrstart glxgears in one window, then cat /proc/cpuinfo after a while11:05
czrshould be maxed at that point11:05
khalifWhat does UDF mean?11:06
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czrkhalif, depends on context11:06
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czrkhalif, one filesystem that one can use with DVD-ROMs for example11:06
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sladenczr: powernowd is automatically configured on Ubuntu by default11:06
sladenczr: and scales the usage based on what is required11:06
khalifThanks!11:07
czrsladen, and how exactly does that contradict with what I said? :-)11:07
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pramzyay 2.6.14-ck6 compiled and running :D11:08
czrck?11:08
czrwhat's that?11:08
Syntuxguys, I updated my bios, and now my computer wont boot, is there any solution for this? is there anyway to reset bios or re-install it without getting into the system ?11:08
pramzken colivas's patchset11:08
pramzLinux frozen 2.6.14-ck6 #1 Mon Dec 5 23:55:15 PST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux11:08
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czrSyntux, yeah, reflash the chip outside the mobo11:08
czrSyntux, so unless you have the proper replacement chip and small-eletronics skills, I'd say no11:08
sladenczr: I didn't know who you were replying to, but hopefully the person you were will notice my messages too11:08
czrsladen, it was sapo11:08
czrsladen, could have used scrollback first ;-)11:09
sladenczr: hopefully sapo noticed :)11:09
Syntuxczr, relfash the chip outside the mobo ? what's mobo ?11:09
sapoi noticed :P11:09
czrSyntux, motherboard11:09
sladenSyntux: how far ''doesn't boot''.  do you see the motherboard11:09
sladenSyntux: does 'caps-lock' work on the keyboard11:09
Hentai^XPSyntux your most likely screwed11:09
czrSyntux, 'no' is the answer you are looking for11:09
Hentai^XPunless you have dual bios board11:09
mischapramz, rxvt11:09
Syntuxsladen, bios post doesn't appear11:10
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czrSyntux, wrong bios version for your motherboard.11:10
sladenSyntux: and sometimes the first 8kB is protected with a floppy-loader for reflashing even when screwed11:10
drakeoutlawhas anybody managed to make the intel HD audio modem work?11:10
sladenSyntux: okay.  Does it beep11:10
ulinskiegot a q! is there MATHLAB for Linux?11:10
sladenSyntux: have you tried re-sitting the RAM11:10
sladenulinskie: yes.  It costs $$$.11:10
ulinskieohhhh11:11
ulinskie:(11:11
linuksoulinskie: there is, if you can afford it. You could try octave if you don't need the toolboxes or simulink11:11
sladenulinskie: or there a GPL workalike called GNU Octave11:11
syklitengutthi. have a question. yeasterday, I copied allot of files from a cd to my computer(ubuntu) today they are all gone(after reestart) .... any ideas?11:11
linuksoulinskie: you can get it with sudo aptitude install octave11:11
sladensyklitengutt: where did you copy them to  (/tmp gets wiped at boot)11:12
drakeoutlawsyklitengutt: They are most likely in a different location from where you thought you copied them11:12
syklitenguttto /home11:12
czrwhy /home?11:13
czror you mean home directory (which is not /home)?11:13
poningru$HOME11:13
syklitenguttyea...11:13
syklitenguttplaces home11:13
czrthen check in ls -la ~11:13
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ulinskieok.. that's good news... anybody knows if octave is preinstalled in edubuntu?11:14
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Chousukehm11:14
syklitenguttI tried do a search but it didnt found anything...11:14
Chousukeoctave is probably in universe11:15
czrsyklitengutt, do you remember any of the filenames that you copied?11:15
czrif you do, you could try this: find / -iname "blah*" 2> /dev/null11:15
czrwhere blah is the start of a filename that you remember11:15
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Chousukeulinskie: octave is not installed per default11:17
syklitenguttnothing came up. can it be beacause I didnt umout proporlie?11:17
czrsyklitengutt, umount your system properly?11:17
czrthat could be the reason yes11:17
czrdo a 'sync' next time when in doubt11:18
czr(in a terminal)11:18
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syklitenguttok... im not used to have to do that. how to do a sync?11:18
khalifOk the error message that I'm getting now when i try to mount my usb jumpdrive is: "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1, missing codepage or other error"11:18
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khalifI don't understand I edited the fstab file like the other devices in the file. The only thing that I changed was the mount folder...11:19
ubuntu2that happens when you mount -t WRONG_FS11:20
ubuntu2if its FAT32, use -t vfat11:20
gnugeekhi world, anyone knows how I can change gtk1.2 themes in ubuntu?11:20
czrubuntu2, nothing if WRONG_FS isn't any filesystem name in /proc/filesystems11:20
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lonewolffhey, i wonder if anyone can help, i just install 64bit version of ubuntu on a new system and it wont boot, i get grub error 17 :S11:20
gnugeekall the apps under gtk1.2 are ugly11:20
lonewolff(the system has sata hard drives, which i think may be part of the problem)11:20
gnugeekhow can I change it11:20
gnugeekI installed gtk-engine-industrial for that11:21
gnugeekwhat next?11:21
gnugeekany guru herE?11:21
syklitenguttlol.... found the files. they are in my home directory, but only as root user.... how to fix?11:21
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deFryskgnugeek, sudo apt-get install gnome-themes-extras11:22
KraizGrub error 17 is returned if the partition requested exists, but the filesystem type cannot be recognized by GRUB.11:22
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deFryskgnugeek, and select a theme you loike11:22
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syklitenguttjust make them filetype User?11:22
gnugeeki have that package11:22
lonewolffKraiz: that is very odd, the installer should have formatted it as ext311:22
megngabhow will i make my webcam works in ubuntu 5.111:22
KraizAccording to some Gentoo forums.11:22
Shinjanhi folks11:22
gnugeeknow11:22
ubuntu2i never said it was the right one11:23
deFryskgnugeek, system> prefs> themes11:23
deFryskafk11:23
gnugeekok11:23
gnugeeknow?11:23
gnugeekI chose t-ish as a theme, but vlc player is still ugly11:24
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gnugeekeven audacity11:24
robotgeekgnugeek: vlc is built in gtk1 , those themes don't apply to vlc (they apply to gtk2 apps)11:24
topylignugeek: they are ugly, that's that :)11:25
drakeoutlawsyklitengutt: in aterminal window use sudo command with chown example: sudo chown <yourusername> filename. then when it asks for password, give your user password11:25
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deFryskgnugeek, vlc remains ugly in breezy11:25
IRCMohanhi guys11:25
gnugeekI changed their theme when I was using fluxbox11:25
deFryskgnugeek, it'l be improved in dapper11:25
IRCMohani am new to ubuntu11:25
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ubuntu2moin IRCMohan11:25
IRCMohanhi mubuntu211:26
odie5533My VLC player closes a few seconds after opening, any help?11:26
IRCMohanguys i rec ubuntu cd by mail today11:26
robotgeekIRCMohan: great, do you have a specific question you would like to ask?11:26
gnugeekwhen you use gtk-theme-switch11:27
gnugeek, you can change gtk1.2 themes, I changet the fonts and theme to industrial11:27
gnugeekin fluxbox it worked for gtk-1.2 apps11:27
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IRCMohani tried to run the live cd but after the hardware detection the cdrom stopped reading and it says to checkk the cd integrity11:28
gnugeekbut when i run gnome, gtk1.2 is ugly again11:28
IRCMohani did it and at various ppercent the cd fails to read man11:28
dpuppwhat was the process for installing jp IME in ubuntu ? i forgot..11:28
IRCMohancan u guys help me solve the issue11:29
ubuntu2IRCMohan, all the official breezy cds I have have trouble reading on old cd drives11:29
gnugeekgtk-theme-switch writes a file in ~/.gtkrc11:29
ubuntu2if you have a cdburner, use THAT to boot the livecd11:29
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gnugeekfile as^11:29
ubuntu2only downside is, you cant burn while that session is going11:29
drakeoutlawIRCMohan: is it possible to use a different cd drive?11:29
gnugeekanyone?11:29
gnugeekdefrysky11:29
IRCMohanman mine is anew pc Intel 3 GHZ machine11:30
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IRCMohanwih 52x cd/dvd rom11:30
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IRCMohanbut all me 5 cds r not working11:30
gnugeekanyone?11:30
MiSS_n00bHi ppl, whats the best way to install wine? i have a unreliable dialup connection, can i resume downloading the files if I get disconnected?11:30
ashishHi folks11:30
ashishI am trying to compile from source11:30
ashishI ge this error11:31
ashishashish@ash:~/freehoo-3.4.1$ sudo ./autogen.sh11:31
ashish+ aclocal11:31
ashish+ autoheader11:31
ashish+ libtoolize --force --automake --copy11:31
ashish+ automake --gnu --include-deps --copy --add-missing11:31
gnugeekgtk-theme-switch does the job in fluxbox11:31
ashishconfigure.ac: 16: required file `./[config.h] .in' not found11:31
ashish+ autoconf11:31
ashishashish@ash:~/freehoo-3.4.1$11:31
ashishhelp11:31
robotgeekashish: dont' paste in here11:31
ashishI am sorry robotgeek11:31
ashishPlz help me someone11:31
robotgeekashish: what are you trying to compile?11:31
poningruashish: whats wrong?11:32
IRCMohanguys anyone can help me11:32
gnugeekwhat will be in Drapper?11:32
ubuntu2errr, new cd doesnt mean quality. @ IRCMohan try another drive11:32
ashishI get an eror configure.ac11:32
ashish?11:32
ashishconfig.h not founs11:32
ashishfound11:32
gnugeekcan anyone give me list, what is breezy missing that drapper will add?11:32
robotgeekashish: which application are you trying to build?11:32
ashishA yahoo msg11:32
ashish?11:32
robotgeekgnugeek: it's dapper :)11:32
IRCMohanit is a HP pc man11:32
gnugeekdaiper11:32
poningru!dapper11:32
ubotuThe 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake11:33
gnugeek!dapper11:33
robotgeekashish: yahoo messenger??? use gaim11:33
syklitenguttdidnt work... The files is in My root directory and I want to move them to home Hjem/chris11:33
ashishhey I know that come on man11:33
ashishI just asked for help11:33
gnugeekthanks dude11:33
robotgeekashish: can you tell me the name of the app you are trying to compile? i can look at the dependencies11:33
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ashishok11:33
ashishwww.nongnu.org/freehoo11:33
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ashishthanks dude11:34
MiSS_n00bso......... is there any kind person that will help with wine? :)11:34
robotgeekashish: http://www.nongnu.org/freehoo/INSTALL.txt do you have all those libs?11:34
ashishyes11:35
ubuntu2... press F2, then select the screen with optimizations listed11:35
ubuntu2when you boot the livecd11:35
robotgeekMiSS_n00b: apt-get resumes, wget also resumes11:35
ubuntu2that's all i can think of11:35
ashishYup just installed them11:35
ashishbefore11:35
robotgeekashish: also the development libraries?11:35
ashishyup11:35
seriesxDoes anybody know if generic SCSI support must be compiled into the kernel if you want to be able to mount USB devices such as cameras? My camera does not automount and I don't have SCSI support in the kernel.11:35
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robotgeekashish: as in libreadline-dev11:35
ashishyes11:35
MiSS_n00bok thnx robotgeek i wasnt sure11:35
ashishyes11:35
ashishdude11:35
ashishI have install the devel package also11:36
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ashishI guess it's something gotta do with automake11:36
robotgeekashish: lemme try11:37
ashishok11:37
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poningruseriesx: no you dont need that11:37
poningruit should automagically detect it11:37
poningrunot necessarily mount11:37
poningrucause some cameras dont allow that11:38
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HoRoBihi11:38
pl_icehey11:38
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seriesxok. my camera shows up in /proc/bus/usb/devices but how do I mount it then? I don't have any /dev/sd* nodes11:38
ashishrobotgeek,11:39
ashishu there11:39
ashish?11:39
mischahi all, when i am in a terminal and scp something to somewhere i get the following message: setterm: $TERM is not defined. anyone know what that means...tanx in advance11:39
robotgeekashish: trying, wait one moment11:39
mischaecho $TERM gives rxvt11:39
ashishokie11:39
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robotgeekashish: meanwhile, post your error to pastebin please.11:40
robotgeekubotu: tell ashish about pastebin11:40
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odie5533What other decent general programming editors are there besides gedit for ubuntu gnome?11:42
ashishdude11:42
czrgedit isn't a programming editor ;-)11:42
pl_icewhere is my car :)11:42
mjrodie5533, anjuta11:43
czrthere are various IDEs out there11:43
odie5533I noticed that, its not that good for it either...11:43
czrwas going to suggest anjuta, it's rather heavy but ok11:43
odie5533I wanted more of a general editor like EditPad is for windows11:43
czrI use mcedit ;--)11:43
robotgeekashish: are you sure you compiled libyahoo2 correctly, just asking11:43
czrwhich is even less a programming editor than gedit ;-)11:43
robotgeekgvim11:43
ashishyes no doubt11:43
czrheh11:43
ashish?11:43
czrshould learn vi one of these days11:43
ashishrobotgeek, is it working for you ?11:44
czrI think that's a mantra I've been repeating for over 10 years now11:44
syklitengutthow to chmod all files in a folder from fileowner root to chris?11:44
ubuntu2some editors dont work for people, no shame there11:44
ubuntu2i hate emacs11:44
Kamping_Kaisersyklitengutt: chown11:44
czrsyklitengutt, chmod -R newowner.newgroupowner path/to/dir11:44
Kamping_Kaisersudo chown chis *11:44
czrsyklitengutt, and please forget about 'folder'. use directory instead ;-)11:45
syklitenguttk11:45
odie5533does gvim support code folding?11:45
robotgeekodie5533: yes11:46
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robotgeekashish: i'm compiling libyahoo atm11:46
paul__hi all, wondering if its possible to mount ntfs drives?11:46
ashishk11:46
Myrtti!ntfs11:46
ubotuit has been said that ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions11:46
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paul__lovely11:46
czrhmm. ntfs was used already in nt3.5111:47
syklitenguttI get this: to few arguments.11:47
czrsyklitengutt, what was the command that you typed?11:47
czrsyklitengutt, something is missing from it11:47
syklitenguttchmod -R chris from its directory11:48
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czrchmod -R chris .11:49
czryou need to give the path to directory always (or list of filenames)11:49
czr. = current working directory11:49
Seveaschmod -R chris won't work11:49
SeveasI guess you mean chown11:50
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ashishI just compiled libyahoo211:50
ashishstill same errors for freehoo11:50
robotgeekashish: /autogen.sh: line 6: libtoolize: command not found11:50
czroh yeah, chown ;-)11:50
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czrwas blinded by the other error11:50
ashishI have line no 611:51
ashishconfigure.a11:51
ashishconfigure.ac11:51
robotgeekashish: moment, installing libtool11:51
syklitengutt invalid mode string: chris11:51
ashishconfig.h file not found11:51
czrsyklitengutt, you're using the wrong command. not chmod, chown!11:51
syklitenguttk11:52
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czryou also should run it with root-privileges11:52
czrchanging ownership of files is a privileged operation11:52
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hfxhiyas11:52
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robotgeekashish: i was able to create a configure file11:52
ashishoh11:52
ashishwhere the hell is the problem11:53
ashish?11:53
hfxhow do i make gedit save into a samba share? right now it opens all files oin the share read-only11:53
ashishI am not able to figure out which package11:53
robotgeekashish:  sudo apt-get install libglib1.2 libglib1.2-dev libguile9 libguile-dev libreadline5-dev11:53
czrhfx, you need to mount the samba share so that the rights are what you need, not a problem in gedit11:53
robotgeekashish: then, rebuild libyahoo11:53
czrhfx, man mount, then search for uid,gid11:53
RezDawgNew to linux, when im playing a game in window i can alt+tab to get back to the desktop or switch to another app that is open, is there a equal in linux?11:54
syklitenguttok.... tnx. that changed the fileowner, but how about file group?11:54
czrsyklitengutt, scrollback and read my first response to your question11:54
czrsyklitengutt, in short, learn to read what people write you ;-)11:54
aeon17xRezDawg: equal in Linux?11:54
syklitengutttnx11:54
hfxczr, thanks. is there also a possibility to mount from gnome? or kde?11:54
RezDawgaeon17x, is there key combo in linux that will do the samething11:55
ashishok i am installing11:55
aeon17xRezDawg: of course.11:55
czrhfx, probably. I use automount myself so don't know the specifics in gnome/kde11:55
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RezDawgaeon17x, would you be so kind and enlighten me please11:55
paul__that ntfs way mounted it perfectly, however now i'm having trouble associating the media/ drives with vmware ;/11:55
hfxthx :)11:55
ashisheven after installing same problem11:55
ashishdude11:56
paul__is there a way to make them accessable via /dev/hdb2 etc,11:56
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robotgeekashish: my ./configure is failing, one sec11:56
aeon17xRezDawg: ALT tab switches windows, CTRL ALT D shows the desktop.11:56
ashishmy ./autogen.sh itself is failing11:56
czrpaul__, you mean you have mounted the filesystem and also want vmware to use the same ntfs at the same time?11:56
czrpaul__, that would break ntfs seriously11:56
RezDawgaeon17x, well ill try again, but when i tried alt+tab in ubuntu nothing happened11:57
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aeon17xRezDawg: what kind of windows are up?11:57
robotgeekashish: sudo apt-get install automake1.411:57
ubuntu2... for vmware, giving it access to /dev/hda1, etc is dangerous11:57
ubuntu2and well, unwise11:57
ashishI guess I installed it11:57
ubuntu2just give it access to the mounted volume name11:57
ashishyes it is already installed11:57
RezDawgaeon17x, i was playing a game and wanted to get back to the desktop, so ill try adding the d to the action11:58
paul__czr, eek, didnt think aboutit like that, is there anyother way to go about it?11:58
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aeon17xRezDawg: what game?11:58
paul__perhaps setup some local smb shares of the /media/* drives?11:58
robotgeekashish: then, i dunno what's wrong11:58
CppIsWeirdhow do i make the windows boot loader have the option to boot kubuntu?11:58
ashishoh11:58
czrpaul, use shared folders inside vmware to transfer files between the host and vm machine11:58
czrpaul__, I guess that is what you want to do, right?11:58
paul__yeap11:58
paul__didnt know there was such option11:59
czrread vmware manual 'shared folders' ;-)11:59
czrvmware contains oodles of fun stuff11:59
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RezDawgaeon17x, i was playing americas army and when you die you have to wait til next round to start playing so when i play in windows i usually alt+tab out and mess around til beginning next round and want to do the same thing now that i use linux11:59
paul__oooh sneaky its on a different tab, thanks alot czr11:59
czrpaul__, np. have fun :-). and read the manual on how to use it from windows side, it's a bit interesting ;-)12:00
aeon17xRezDawg: I don't know, it's likely the game is preventing you from switching.12:00
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RezDawgaeon17x, well you have given me something to try, so thanks. hope it will work12:00
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ashishheh I picked it up from the CVS12:01
ashishit worked12:01
vbgunzRezDawg: I believe you can probably open up another x session... That might work *but* am not too sure how it might effect your work, play habit12:01
vbgunzczr: you use vmware?12:01
czrvbgunz, yeah, sometimes12:02
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czractually have 5.10 running in vmware right now12:02
vbgunzczr: have you upgraded to 5.5 yet?12:02
czrbeen using it for many years12:02
czrno, not yet12:02
RezDawgvbgunz, well like i said im new to linux so opening another x session sounds a little advance but it might be simple. problem is how am i going to open another session while ingame12:02
vbgunzoh, you're on Windows, using Ubuntu in vmware?12:02
czrI should test it out, with the vmware player stuff12:02
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czrvbgunz, no, on linux :-)12:03
czrvbgunz, but I don't want to mess up my custom distro ;-)12:03
robotgeekashish: cool12:03
czrvbgunz, I'm running 4.0 actually12:03
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czrthe upgrade is about 100USD, but I don't really need it right now, so I'm sticking with 4.0 until I have more time to play with it12:04
vbgunzRezDawg: Applications > System Tools > New Login... Then Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back to your old login... then to get back to the game, Ctrl+Alt+F8 through 12 to find it... it will probably be on F8 or F9...12:04
RezDawgvbgunz, thanks i will try that also.12:04
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vbgunzczr: I upgraded from 5.0 on Ubuntu to 5.5 on Ubuntu and I am running Windows XP professional in vmware... Windows media player worked fine in 5.0 but turned real shottie in 5.5 ... it is barely unusable...12:05
ashishrobotgeek, fixing some dependencies12:05
robotgeekashish: i finished compiling :)12:05
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vbgunzRezDawg: just an idea, until you find out how to Alt+Tab out ;)12:05
czrvbgunz, never use media player, so can't really help you. can't you downgrade?12:05
syklitengutttnx for all your help, but im pretty new on linux and ubuntu so most of this is a bit strange.... Have been a hardcore Win user...12:06
vbgunzczr: yeah, but 5.5 fixed a few bugs that I appreciate12:06
czrvbgunz, have you checked the vmware forums?12:06
ashishmeet too12:06
vbgunzczr: its cool, no biggie12:06
czrvbgunz, ok :-)12:06
ashishbut I am get some error here12:06
ashishsystem tag or some crap12:06
czrvbgunz, you tried making vmware player images yet?12:06
robotgeekashish: same, ignore :)12:06
CppIsWeirdhas anyone ever attempted to install ubuntu on an external USB drive?12:06
czrsyklitengutt, you should find a tutorial on how to use UNIX somewhere with google12:06
henkhi, i'm trying to do :   >> gnome-terminal -e 'ssh foo.bar.nl' --name=foobar  << to have a terminal with an ssh session to an external host with the name of that host on my taskbar. but the progam name stays 'terminal'  can  anyone tell me how to do it ?12:06
vbgunzczr: I been used Ghost, but vmware player is no where near as good as vmware images for sure :P12:06
robotgeekashish: a better client i think is centericq, cli and all too12:07
vbgunzczr: plus the player sucks imho12:07
ashishthis is my company folks have written this prog12:07
czrvbgunz, you have tried it? I haven't, that's why I ask. why does it suck?12:07
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seliniumCppIsWeird, There are tutorials out in google land about it! :) But you are better off using a microdrive, usb has a limited number of read/write cycles12:07
robotgeekashish: oh okay.12:07
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charleshi everyone12:08
seliniumhi charles12:08
FubberIs there an alternative to Evolution, I need to connect to MS Exchange Server and Evo is crap12:08
czrselinium, all flash do internal wear-levelling nowadays12:08
syklitengutthave done that and learned allot.... have learned allot about f.ex xorg and grub after some problems. but something just wont stick in my mind.12:08
czrselinium, most flash does :-)12:08
Kamping_KaiserFubber: not realy no12:08
CppIsWeirdselinium, no theres not12:08
ashishthanks dude robotgeek12:08
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vbgunzczr: no options anywhere near the options you have in vmware ws... Also, I couldn't install vmware tools and couldn't get the res passed 640x480... I hardly played with it though but saw the options... there were like 3 or so, all dumb too, forgot what they were12:08
robotgeekashish: np12:08
frogzo1Fubber:  for exchange, I think it's Evo or nothing12:08
czrFubber, you could try using IMAP instead. exchange does that. not for calendars though12:08
charlesi'm new to linux, but so far so good12:08
czrvbgunz, but the player is meant for playing ready made images, so one should really prepare the images with proper settings12:09
czrvbgunz, I'm going to test it out for a weird idea I have12:09
FubberFrankly the Exchange support is dire, My sent Items get fired back into my Inbox aswell, whats the deal with that!12:09
vbgunzczr: I guess using the player is more for checking out an image Vs working with one...12:09
czrvbgunz, yes. it's for software demos and presentations and stuff12:09
CppIsWeirdiv only been at this 6 hours now, dont you think iv tried google a few times? i get so tired of people who dont know what the answer is suggest google just to hear themselves speak.12:09
czrvbgunz, if it would be vmware workstation then it couldn't be free, right?12:09
czrCppIsWeird, what is your problem?12:10
odie5533is the 8 spaces for a tab in vim standard?12:10
vbgunzczr: yeah, I currently use vmware for Windows development and nothing more... I checked out the player on my Ghost images and found it very slow... too slow :(12:10
seliniumCppIsWeird, Firstly I have found google sites with tutorials on the subjectotherwise I would not say so. Secondly, I was looking them up, but now look yourself!12:10
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CppIsWeirdczr: kubuntu installs fine on my external usb drive, but it wont boot no matter what i do12:11
czrvbgunz, ok. btw, you use ghost?12:11
ubuntu2once you multiboot, it pays to just stop using the MS bootloader12:11
CppIsWeirdi tried installing frub to the usb drive, to the main drive, having windows boot it12:11
czrCppIsWeird, there are many things that stop your computer from booting over usb12:11
vbgunzczr: yes12:11
czrCppIsWeird, bios being the main culprit12:11
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CppIsWeirdmy bios supports it12:11
czrvbgunz, ah, I have a question, privmsg ok?12:11
vbgunzczr: I love Ghost...12:11
vbgunzczr: ok12:11
seliniumczr: Is your bios set to boot from USB first?12:11
czrCppIsWeird, then you need a boot sector that supports your bios way of mapping drives12:11
ubuntu2ghost.radified.com <3 my babies12:11
czrselinium, not me ;-)12:12
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seliniumCppIsWeird,  Is your bios set to boot from USB first?12:12
czrah, vbgunz, ubuntu2 also uses ghost12:12
czrso I'll just ask here, highly OT though12:12
vbgunzczr: what do you mean?12:12
czrsuppose I have ghost image files. how to restore them while running in linux?12:12
CppIsWeirdczr, how would i go about finding that information? are there protocol names i should look for in my hardware documentation?12:13
ubuntu2dont think ghost works in wine12:13
vbgunzczr: I have a dual boot system... On Windows, I have Ghost and Games... When I've done enough work with Ubuntu, I back it up with Ghost... I love it because a restore really only takes less than 5 minutes... The sweetest backup and restore times hands down imho :)12:13
ubuntu2anyway, I'm not sure of anything > 200112:13
czrCppIsWeird, trial and error unfortunately12:13
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CppIsWeirdwhat i dont understand is the ubuntu H2 device boots just fine aslong as the supporting devies supports booting from usb12:14
czrCppIsWeird, 'usb-storage' is the model that is used to access stuff over usb (disks, flash, cd-rom)12:14
ubuntu2even though the image I made of an OEM PC was made in a later version (hence can't be accessed)12:14
czrwe're using ghost to install computers at work12:14
czrand the install system sucks-a-plenty12:14
czrbased on dos-floppies and broken lanman over netbeui12:14
ubuntu2which VERSION12:14
CppIsWeirdyou wouldent happen to know how h2 does its booting do you?12:14
czrubuntu2, old one. I think we now have 8.xmt12:15
czrsomething -)12:15
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czrCppIsWeird, what is h2?12:15
CppIsWeirdis there a tool that would check a devices MBR from within windows?12:15
vbgunzubuntu2: I tried using wine for Trillian... *but* Trillian just wouldn't play nicely... I gave up rather quickly on wine and settled with Gaim... Can't wait for version 2...12:15
CppIsWeirdhttp://www.zinside.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=4612:15
seliniumCppIsWeird, Obvoiulsy this site doesn't exist in Google? http://www6.tomshardware.com/howto/20051110/12:16
CppIsWeirdUbuntu H2 : Bootable USB 3GB Micro Hard Drive with Ubuntu Linux12:16
ubuntu28 is still old, but its the one with taht activation iirc12:16
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ubuntu2... never used wine in my life12:16
czrubuntu2, why would we need a newer version?12:16
czrI want a version that runs within Linux12:16
CppIsWeirdselinium: try listening and stop being an asshat, if you would read as i have, you would see that ubuntu H2 is a preinstalled ubuntu on a usb microdrive12:16
CppIsWeirdyou are now on ignore, have a nice day12:16
czrthat would allow me to scrap the dos-crap and move to pure pxe-install stuff12:16
ubuntu2i was saying go older czr12:17
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czrubuntu2, older? why?12:17
ubuntu2... telling people they're on ignore is no fun12:17
czrI wonder whether running ghost under dosemu would work12:17
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ubuntu2letting them figure it out on their own ^^12:17
khalifI'm trying to install kfstab, but i keep getting this error: " Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open". Any ideas?12:17
czrheh ubuntu212:17
CppIsWeirdits in hopes that they stop their mindless rambeling12:18
czrCppIsWeird, so your problem is that H2 doesn't work on your computer?12:18
vbgunzczr: why not just dual boot? Having Windows on it's own partition and dual booting is extremely handy...12:18
ubuntu2... sudo?12:18
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CppIsWeirdh2 to my knowledge only exists on that device12:18
CppIsWeirdi dont have h212:18
CppIsWeirdlmfao12:18
CppIsWeirdim going in circles12:18
czrvbgunz, as I said, we use it to install computers at works. we reinstall about 200 different configs on 10 different machine models12:18
czrat work even12:18
CppIsWeirdhow do i make the windows boot loader have the option to boot kubuntu?12:18
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CppIsWeirdoopse12:18
ubuntu2what about h3... or the new '06 model.. h6 (no h4/5 here)12:18
CppIsWeirdwrong one12:18
hfxtrying to mount an nfs share. keep getting "mount: RPC: Program not registered". what's wrong?12:18
czrCppIsWeird, it would still require the BIOS to boot it12:18
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czrCppIsWeird, what does your bios say when you try to boot off usb?12:19
czrhfx, have you started portmap?12:19
czrI had to install it separately for 5.1012:19
CppIsWeirddoesnt say anything, but it detects the drive specifically in the bios12:19
vbgunzczr: oh12:19
hfxczr, yep12:19
CppIsWeirdand i have checcked the stats on my bioos, its up to par12:19
czrhfx, dmesg/firewalling?12:19
CppIsWeirdwhatever's going wrong its putting a MBR on the usb drive12:19
khalifI'm suing sudo aptitude install kfstab, but I keep getting this error: " Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open"12:20
syklitenguttbut I have a strange problem. I have followed this guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion but im missing all my plugins after this...  tried to cp the plugins in my mozilla folder to /opt/Firefox but when I type about:plugins in FF none is listed12:20
CppIsWeirdwhich i dont think the ubuntu isntaller was prepared for12:20
czrCppIsWeird, buggy bios then, really. have you looked for linux booting MBRs?12:20
CppIsWeirdomfg12:20
czrI had the same thing with compaq nc4000 laptop12:20
czrsupports usb booting but only with a non-standard MBR12:20
CppIsWeirdhas anyone installed kubuntu on an external USB hard drive?12:20
czrthe standard ones didn't work with the BIOS12:20
vbgunzczr: I use 9 and man I wish it had the option of ghost distro images... Currently you have to use the restore CD which takes forever... I wish the restore was just one click or two click restore...12:20
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czrvbgunz, indeed12:20
Hentai^XPsup CppIsWeird12:21
CppIsWeirdhey dewd12:21
hfxczr, dmesg doesn't give me anything about nfs :o/ firewalling is disabled afaik, lemme check12:21
czrnow the only way I can do it is a) boot linux over pxe, b) transfer ghost images to a second partition (at the end of disk), c) setup disk to boot from second part, ghost is there too, d) when pc boots, it will start ghost automatically to restore images on first partition12:21
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utenteciao12:21
czrhfx, dmesg should give you something12:21
hfxczr, iptables is accepting everything12:21
selinium_CppIsWeird, I apologise for being ubrupt, but I was only trying to help. I really get annoyed with people who just throw help back, I was looking stuff up for you? I would like to help because it is something I am interested in.12:22
czrhfx, weird. ping to server ok?12:22
czrhfx, you have portmap running on the server and firewall on that box is ok? :-)12:22
paul__czr, i've setup shared folders, however i cant seem to figure out how to access it from the vmware winxp pro session.12:22
hfxczr, naw, nothing. do i need to pass it an argument?12:22
paul__what is the normal approach to accessing it?12:22
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ubuntu2say what? since when do you need a CD to restore ghost images12:22
czrpaul__, read the manual ;-)12:22
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czrpaul__, windows exporer //.host/share blah. smt like that12:23
hfxping is ok12:23
ubuntu2... run ghost/ghostpe ... open, restore, image, browse to image location, select, press OK12:23
czrubuntu2,  from within windows?12:23
hfxczr, portmap is running also on the server12:23
paul__it states n a Windows virtual machine, shared folders appear as folders on a designated drive letter12:23
ubuntu2... no ghost works truly in windoes12:23
paul__however this doesnt occur..12:23
ubuntu2the shell doesnt let you access low-level functions12:24
CppIsWeirdselinium: no worries, im just tired an agrivated.12:24
czrubuntu2, so you need a dos first to run ghost right? so why not have a CD that has dos and ghost and networking12:24
hfxczr, policy is all accept on that box either12:24
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ubuntu22003, upwards work with the loader in win32, but then it boots to dos12:24
czrubuntu2, I know a thing or two about legacy systems, no news to me ;-)12:24
ubuntu2... that you need the professional version of ghost .. see ghost.radified.com12:24
czrubuntu2, doesn't help12:24
rMaxdzien dobry12:25
czrhfx, hmm, weird12:25
hfxczr, funny...even on the server it gives me the same message12:25
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ubuntu2old hardware didnt have pxe12:25
czrhfx, sounds like portmap is broken. try restarting nfs stuff12:25
ubuntu2thats the.. boot using NIC EEPROM right12:25
hfxczr, that command right: "mount -t nfs server:/srv/HFX /mnt"?12:25
czrold hardware can be booted with etherboot-pxe-floppy12:25
CppIsWeirdanyways, im going to bed, i will pick this up again tommorrow12:25
ubuntu2what's a pxe?12:25
czrbesides, we don't have old hardware, so it's not an issue12:25
CppIsWeirdgood night everyone12:25
czrpreboot-execution-environment. a mechanism for bios to get IP via DHCP and load kernel and stuff over TFTP and execute that12:26
vbgunzubuntu2: I have ghost 9 and am afraid booting it from dos is hell to pay... Ghost needs a "recovery CD" that I am aware of and then with it, you'll get a gui to choose from so many options "scanning disk for viruses, etc" restore files or disk is there too, just takes more time to boot into cd than actually restoring the image :P12:26
czrsome bioses call it 'boot from network'12:26
hfxgnah12:26
czrhfx, yes12:26
rMaxktos tu gada po polsku?12:26
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czrrmax, english only please12:26
hfxczr, got it12:27
czrhfx, it works now?12:27
ubuntu2maybe there's a #ubuntu-pl channel?12:27
hfxhad to reatart the nfs server, not just reload ^^12:27
rMaxale ja nie znam english12:27
czrhfx, heh :-)12:27
hfxretard Lol yea. meant restart ;)12:27
ubuntu2vbgunz, AH that thing, thats the version i stay away from... you need that cd for the "key" to unlock the images12:27
czr/etc/init.d/nfs retard12:27
hfx*g*12:28
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hfxthanx for your help, czr :)12:28
czrnfs: process 2032 now succesfully retarded12:28
czrhfx, np :-)12:28
ubuntu2symantec took it out the next version i think. as for previous.. only loss there is images created in newer versions cant be read12:28
vbgunzubuntu2 yup... It isn't like the old one... the old one was better in a sense12:28
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czrubuntu2, your needs some loving IMHO :-)12:30
czr+site12:30
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rickardgAnybody had any luck installing ruby bindings for sqlite on Breezy?12:31
czrubuntu2, the reason why I want to use linux is that I can go full network boot - install over network way12:31
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ubuntu2?12:32
czrrelating to the 'running ghost from linux'12:32
ubuntu2oh right12:33
ubuntu2i dont imagine it would be impossibl12:33
ubuntu2e, but i have no idea HOW-to to help you.12:33
MiSS_n00bhi, I started installing wine with "apt-get install wine" and I got cut off... how do i resume downloading12:34
czrubuntu2, that's ok. most of my projects are trying to do something that hasn't been done before, so I'm quite used to finding out and testing myself ;-)12:34
ubuntu2is there a --resume ?12:34
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MiSS_n00bno12:35
Kamping_Kaiserit should resume by itself12:35
ubuntu2if it got cut off in the download, you can wget the remaining12:36
Kamping_Kaiserapt- should resume12:36
czrMiSS_n00b, just repeat the command12:36
czrshould resume automatically12:36
ubuntu2but running it again might resume it, since its intelligent about where it left off12:36
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MiSS_n00bnvm this workeed root@ubuntu:~ # apt-get install wine --fix-missing12:36
ubuntu2wee!12:37
jckhi12:38
jckhas anyone configured ubuntu breezy badger with lvm on raid1?12:39
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derek[] hello people12:39
derek[] when I add the Japanese input method in Keyboard preferences12:39
derek[] it eats up the 'tilde'12:39
derek[] any idea why?12:39
derek[] or how to set up the JP input method without any problems12:39
derek[] ?12:40
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czrubuntu2, you know anything about older ghosts?12:41
ubuntu2older than 2001?12:41
czrI don't know how the product numbers go12:42
ubuntu2if yes, then no. I believe that was the first time i saw radified's page12:42
czrI see manuals for 2003, 10.0 and 9.012:42
topyliderek[] : the tilde is a dead key, at least in my keyboard layout. try following it with a space12:42
ubuntu2which turned me onto ghost12:42
ubuntu2right12:42
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derek[] topyli, hmm12:42
ubuntu2his page lists versions to years iirc12:42
czrbut not older. I assume that 8.x is older than 9.012:42
derek[] ~12:42
topylithere you go12:42
derek[] I can type it ,  topyli ,  when I remove the JP layout12:42
topylioh12:42
derek[] yeah :(12:42
czrah, 2003 looks more familiar12:43
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derek[] it works fine while keeping the Russian layout along though12:43
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frogzo1Acronis beats the shiz outta ghost - though not really on topic :-/12:43
ubuntu2OH, i can check for you12:43
ubuntu2if ubuntu supports mounting floppy images12:44
ubuntu2is that the dd magic?12:44
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topyliubuntu2: from man mount: mount /tmp/fdimage /mnt -t msdos -o loop=/dev/loop3,blocksize=102412:47
topyliyou don't have to specify the loop device IIRC, just use -o loop12:48
khalifHow can I find out which fikesystems are enabled in Kubuntu 5.10? I tried looking in the wiki, but there was no info.....12:48
MiSS_n00bis there any kind of firewall installed by default on ubuntu12:48
topyliMiSS_n00b: no12:49
maupertry firestarter12:49
maupernice basic iptables voodoomagic ;)12:49
MiSS_n00bwill i need a firewall? this connects to the internet through a firewalled windoze box12:50
topyliMiSS_n00b: no12:50
MiSS_n00bok ty12:50
ubuntu2err ? sudo mount /path/to/mounted/file /current/file/location -t vfat -o loop=/dev/loop3,blocksize1024 you mean? or is FAT12 different than FAT3212:50
MiSS_n00bfat12? o.O12:51
mauperMiSS_n00b: but you should still install it ;)12:51
khalifI think thats fat16...12:51
ubuntu2floppies are FAT12 i thought12:51
ubuntu2since they're 2.88 MiB at the max12:51
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topyliubuntu2: try vfat and msdos for starters12:51
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khaliffat16 was Windows 95 and fat32 is Windows 9812:52
ubuntu2k well gotta access my 2ndary cd now, the one that doesnt read so well12:52
topylimauper: because nothing is listening to any ports by default anyway12:52
Hentai^XPfloppys are fat1212:52
MiSS_n00b:-S12:53
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Hentai^XPusually12:53
maupertopyli: are you sure ?12:53
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cowpat1989hey, can someone send me the compiled rtl8180 drivers for preezy if possible12:53
topylithat's the design12:53
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khalifIs there a way to see what file systems are supported currently by Ubuntu?12:53
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czrkhalif, what are you looking for?12:54
[Jonne] is anyone else having problems configuring his network card in dapper?12:54
mauperkhalif: /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-686/kernel/fs/ ?12:54
cowpat1989i meant breezy before12:54
[Jonne] I did a server install from the hoary cd, dist-upgraded to breezy, installed kubuntu-desktop12:55
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[Jonne] it went wrong when I dist-upgraded to dapper.12:55
khalifI'm trying to edit my fstab so I can mount my usb pen drive, but i think that I'm listing the wrong file system...12:55
[Jonne] My previous dapper install worked ok12:55
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Ng[Jonne] : dapper is unstable, so it's pretty likely it will be broken on some days, don't run it if you don't know how to fix things ;)12:55
Gokee2Hello everyone I have a Compaq Presario M2000 with a ATI sound card.  I have been having a lot of problems getting it to work and heard it worked off the bat in ubuntu so I was wondering if anyone here has simaler hardware?12:55
topyli[Jonne] : perhaps it wasn't broken when you last installed it, but is broken today12:55
[Jonne] problem is that i can't fix my network, which means I can't do apt-get update regularely12:56
czrkkhalif, use vfat as the driver12:56
kyncanikhalif: you can set the fs to auto12:56
[Jonne] i could live with broken stiuff, it's just that it won't fix itself now12:56
czror vfat,auto12:56
khalifI tried that, but I keep getting error messages. I think that it has to be explicilty listed...12:57
czrkhalif, try mount manually first12:57
czrmouting12:57
mauperGokee2: I would give it a try, works like a charm for me on my off-the-shelf notebook12:57
Ng[Jonne] : I would suggest you install breezy and stay there :)12:57
spacey[Jonne] , whats wrong with your network then?12:57
spaceyNg, yeah thats best advice:)12:57
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kyncanikhalif: usb disks are supposed to be mounted automagically anyway ?12:57
[Jonne] I'm not sure, but I can't set the gateway ip address12:58
[Jonne] i think that's the problem12:58
cowpat1989anyone know how to get a rt8180 ieee 802.11b wireless card working12:58
khalifWhen i try to mount manually, it ask for file system type.12:58
MiSS_n00bdchp12:58
Gokee2mauper, I would load ubuntu on it but I need it going by tomarrow and I have done a bunch of bug fixes in debian12:58
topyli[Jonne] : dapper is like that :)12:58
khalifYeah it's supposed to, but mine doesn't! :(12:58
[Jonne] it's not dhcp, btw, it's a manual config12:58
spacey[Jonne] , /etc/network/interfaces12:58
czrkhalif, try passing -tvfat to mount command12:58
kbrooksGokee2, btw ltns12:58
[Jonne] what can I find there?12:58
czrkhalif, also do modprobe vfat first12:58
[Jonne] I mean, what should i do there12:59
czrjonne, man interfaces12:59
Gokee2kbrooks, ltns?12:59
spaceycheck if its configured right there12:59
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Ngczr: that's just compounding the problem really12:59
spaceyand in emergency you could even configure it with ifconfig directly12:59
czrNg, which one?12:59
leagrisAny Firefox 1.5 Breezy packaged ?12:59
topylileagris: no01:00
Ngczr: if he doesn't know about the network interfaces file he certainly shouldn't be running dapper01:00
mauperGokee2: then stay with the system that works for you, if it is mission critical ;)01:00
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czrNg, why explain that to me? obviously he wants to run dapper, so :-)01:00
Gokee2mauper, It also needs sound :(01:00
mauperall I can say is that my average ubuntu install takes about 30 minutes01:00
Gokee2hmmm01:00
[Jonne] spacey, i tried ifconfig, and that didn't work01:00
czrjonne, does ifconfig -a list eth0 for you?01:01
spaceywhat did you try with ifconfig :P01:01
Ngczr: I want to go into space, but I don't join #rockets and ask how to mix rocket fuel ;)01:01
czrng, people come in different shapes and sizes ;-)01:01
mauperGokee2: and if the sound on your current system doesn't work either, why not try ?01:01
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[Jonne] czr not after startup, when I do ifconfig eth0 etc, it's listed01:01
Gokee2mauper, Because I don`t have a extra partishin01:01
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czrjonne, ifconfig -a ?01:02
topyli[Jonne] : this isn't actually the best place to talk about dapper. if you want to fix it, join the developers channel. if you want dapper support, then tough luck01:02
kbrooksGokee2, long time no see01:02
kyncani[Jonne] : Ng is right, if you cannot fix things yourself, you should not run dapper01:02
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mauperGokee2: you have a current debian install ?01:02
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Gokee2kbrooks, ah yes :)01:02
czrng, I'd be careful before attributing 'blind' to me. I've been using and building distros for 10 years now01:02
Gokee2mauper, yes01:02
mauperGokee2: no space for resize ?01:02
davrohi, is there a way to recover items deleted using the gnome Empty Wastebasket ?01:02
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Gokee2mauper, No :(01:03
mauperGokee2: jikes ...01:03
Ngczr: then you ought to know better, imho01:03
Ngbut it's your time :)01:03
czrNg, imho noted ;-)01:03
[Jonne] when I'm in KDE, and I do sudo kcontrol, I can't kill eth0 from there. And it doesn't remember that I filled in the gateway address01:03
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spaceykill eth0?:)01:03
Gokee2mauper, Would a ubunto live cd work?01:04
mauperGokee2: good idea!01:04
kbrooksspacey, disconnect01:04
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christoph_TEST01:05
spaceyi think you can only disconnect it with the plug, no? :-) must be some kde terminology01:05
christoph_HEY01:05
[Jonne] oh well, i'll just mess around some more then. The thing is that it sucks that I can't easily get online to search for info.01:06
[Jonne] thanks anyway01:06
spaceygl01:06
czrjonne, man interfaces01:06
czrjonne, then use ifup eth0/ifdown eth001:06
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Gokee2mauper, Ok I am downloading the live cd :)01:08
topylispacey: maybe a bad idea today. we just heard it's broken :)01:08
davrohi, is it possable to recover items that have been deleted using gnome Empty Wastebasket ?01:09
mauperGokee2: good luck with the sound01:09
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Gokee2mauper, ty01:09
topylidavro: not very easily01:09
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topylidavro: if you unmount the disk immediately, some tools may find the info01:10
davrommm, so the gnome Empty Wastebasket is basically the same as rm *01:10
topyliyes01:10
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davrofair enough, and thanks for the help.01:11
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[Jonne] where do most people that run dapper hang out? I didn't see anything about that issue on ubuntuforums, while the x problems of a week ago was on there immediately.01:11
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Ng[Jonne] : the developer mailing list is the place to discuss dapper01:12
topyli[Jonne] : #ubuntu-devel. which is absolutely not a support channel01:12
Ngor that :)01:12
ubuntu2still working czr01:12
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robotgeekif you ask them support questions, they will ask you to leave :)01:12
[Jonne] oh wait, found a thread about it01:12
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czrubuntu2, hmm?01:12
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ubuntu2old versions of ghost01:13
czrhas anyone kickstarted ubuntu here?01:13
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spaceytopyli, hehe, thnx for the warning :o) to little spare time anyway, so good :P01:13
czrubuntu2, oh no. got back to my other project. writing curses software ;-)01:13
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czrubuntu2, related to the ghost stuff though01:14
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czrubuntu2, it's a large project, ghost is only one small part of it01:14
ubuntu2well i'll try to get version info for you ;)01:14
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czrubuntu2, that'd be cool, thanks01:14
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MiSS_n00bok, i just used the apt-get install wine command to get wine, im confused, what am i supposed to do now01:14
masingerzhello i have a question01:14
robotgeekMiSS_n00b: winecfg , i suppose01:15
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MiSS_n00bbash: winecfg: command not found01:15
MiSS_n00b:(01:16
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robotgeek!wine01:16
topyli!gin01:16
ubotutopyli: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about01:16
MiSS_n00blol01:16
soci0pathwinetools maybe01:17
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[Jonne] bye, and thanks. I'll boot back into Ubuntu01:17
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MiSS_n00bcommand not found01:17
kyncaniMiSS_n00b: get a wine howto with google ?01:17
sorush20is anyone here able to find azureus, on the beezy repositories?01:17
MiSS_n00byeah i've been reading01:18
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rambo3miss noob whats the problem01:18
kyncaniMiSS_n00b: well, following the howto, what do you want to do now ??01:18
kyncanisorush20: i cannot find azureus with ubuntu repositories, only with debian ones ..01:19
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rambo3sorush install from source01:19
masingerzi installed nicotine and it runs well, and then I downloaded the newer version so now i have 2 nicotine: 1.0.8rc1 that launches from aplications internet, and the second one that i donwloaded that is 1.0.8 Question: cani et the latest to run override the old one?01:19
MiSS_n00bwell i used apt-get install wine and it downloaded and unpacked this n that and set up stuff, then it stopped01:19
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MiSS_n00bim not sure if it installed properly or what or how i can check01:20
aeon17xDo I have to do anything with my scanner for it to be detected?01:20
aeon17xLike mounting it or something?01:20
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rambo3type wine in terminal and see what happends01:20
josefif i want to use apache2 is it necessary to install apache too?01:20
sorush20rambo3: I never installed from source would I just type sudo apt-get install package-source ?01:21
MiSS_n00byeah i tried says command not found01:21
rambo3no , download unpack and ./run01:21
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rambo3then you didn t download it01:21
rambo3; installed it01:21
rambo3open01:22
rambo3oopen "add applications" cahnge to advanced . search "wine" and mark it for instalation . install xwine to if you want01:23
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Ngjosef: no01:23
MiSS_n00bit will have to DL again wont it? I'm on dialup and this is taking forrrever01:24
andreb_i want a world map for my ubuntu linux but i cant find that software in apt database, any tips?01:24
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rambo3then dont install wine .  it takes alot to make it work properly . you need alot more configuration01:26
sorush20where are the debian repositories?01:26
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robotgeeksorush20: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo01:27
victorhello01:27
victori've got a problem with my laptop01:27
victori don't know if this is a correct place for questions01:27
robotgeekvictor: right place, ask away!01:28
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victorthanks :)01:28
victori've got ubuntu 5.10 installed01:28
NgMiSS_n00b: typically once you have the wine package installed you can just do "wine /path/to/some/windows/program.exe"01:28
victoruntil yesterday my laptop shut down correctly, but since then it doesn't01:29
victorafter killing all, and unmounting all, it keeps freezy when saying "Power down"01:29
victor(excuse my english, i'm spanish)01:29
victorit may be because of xcompmgr01:30
victori've installed it with transset as well01:30
soci0pathMiSS_n00b, http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb there are good instructions there01:30
robotgeekvictor: unlikely, cause that just deals with the xserver01:30
victorsince then it doesn't shut down properly01:31
robotgeekvictor: oo01:31
victorbut i've uninstalled it01:31
victorand re-edited the xorg.conf01:31
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josefThe connection was refused when attempting to contact localhost firefox apache2. Who can help?01:31
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victorbefore it worked properly..01:32
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soci0pathvictor , try this: deselect "save settings on exit" then tell the computer to reboot after shutting down.01:32
victori don't think that will work, i've trying as well doing a halt, or killing X and shutting down from terminal01:33
soci0pathonce it reboots try a normal shutdown01:33
victorthat's strange as well, it reboots perfectly, but it doesn't halt01:33
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soci0pathwhen it hangs, can you jsut press the power button and have it shut down?? does it reboot without doing a disk check on reboot?01:34
victoryes, i can halt it by pressing the button, and it reboots without checking anything01:35
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BockBilbohello01:35
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BockBilboanyone here can tell me what are the whitelists for in postgrey???01:36
soci0pathso the shutdown is correct, it's just not calling the power off01:36
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victorsorry? i don't understand that01:36
victorlinux can't shut down the pc01:36
victori can manually01:36
victorwindows also can01:36
soundrayIs there any documentation for how the clipboard is supposed to work in Gnome?01:36
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victorand linux was able to some days ago01:36
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huedlrickhi01:37
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williiHi all01:37
huedlrickwhich player ist the best for wmv?01:37
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rambo3wmp01:38
victorby manually i mean using the power button lol01:38
soundrayvictor: I have a workaround for problems with shutting down, using grub.01:38
williijust added a windows wireless driver where on the system can I locate it please01:38
huedlrickhaha :-)01:38
kyncanihuedlrick: i like mplayer, totem-gstreamer and gxine01:38
victortell me01:38
rambo3vlc works fine too01:38
frogzo1willii: /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ipw220001:39
soundrayvictor: add a stanza to /boot/grub/menu.lst with 'title Shutdown' and 'halt'01:39
huedlrickwhen i open several wmvs i become many error messages and when i'm lucky i even see the movie01:39
williiok thanks frigzo101:39
masingerzhello i need to override the old nicotine01:39
victorhaha i'll try01:39
frogzo1victor: maybe check /var/log/messages ?01:39
victorbut the grub can't shut down the pc with a halt in command line, so i suppose that wouldn't work neither01:40
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soundrayvictor, then you can shutdown with 'yes | grub-reboot 5' (replace 5 with the appropriate number for your shutdown stanza).01:40
victorfrogzo1, i didn't i'll do right now01:40
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frogzo1victor: grub's got nothing to do with it - once grub kicks off the kernel, it's all down to linux01:40
williiwhat I mean I have go to system/management or something do add browse for driver and then done i need to know where system managemnt is01:41
soundrayfrogzo1, I am just suggesting a workaround. grub can shutdown the machine in most cases, even if linux can't.01:41
victorsoundray, but your workaround is like typing halt in command-line?01:42
soundrayvictor, yes, roughly.01:42
victorit doesn't work01:42
soundrayvictor, what doesn't work?01:42
frogzo1willii: if the driver was a .deb you installed, then your driver's good to go - just 'modprobe ipw2200' or whatever01:42
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soundrayI am getting inconsistent behaviour when I try to copy and paste in Gnome. How is it supposed to work?01:44
mjrsoundray, middle button pastes the text that is currently selected, explicit copy and paste work on the clipboard buffer01:45
Astxisthmm?01:45
victorfrogzo1, this is what my /var/log/messages says01:45
victorshall i copy it here?01:45
frogzo1victor: pastebin pls01:45
robotgeekubotu: tell victor about pastebin01:45
mjrsoundray, should be quite consistent, though some legacy (non-gnome) applications may operate differently01:45
soundraymjr: So if I select a text in gedit, I should be able to middle-click-paste it in Openoffice, correct?01:45
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soundraymjr, at least I used to...01:46
victorwhat?01:46
Sionidehttp://www.guardian.co.uk/rickygervais podcasty goodness :D01:46
soundrayvictor, put it up on http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl01:46
mjrsoundray, you should, and if you can't, it's OpenOffice.org's fault (it isn't as home in Gnome as it could/should)01:46
frogzo1victor: the last fifty lines prior to the last boot01:46
mjrat home01:46
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Paradoxxhow do yo uinstall a .deb package?01:47
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victori don't understand :$01:47
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soundraymjr, is there a utility that shows the current clipboard content? Sth. like klipper in KDE?01:47
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victorsoundray, i use klipper01:47
mjrdunno01:47
williithanks frogzo1 so I just type modprobe ipw2200 at command line? yes it was a .deb package coveted by the alien command01:47
soundrayvictor, in Gnome?01:47
victori didn't find any like it01:47
stremichello01:47
frogzo1willii: modprobe DRIVER_NAME01:48
victoryep01:48
mjrindeed, OpenOffice doesn't seem to support middle-button selection pasting. Shame on it, it's an age-old X custom. :(01:48
Paradoxxcan some1 tell me how to install a .deb file please?01:48
frogzo1Paradoxx: dpkg -i file.deb01:48
FubberParadoxx, dpkg -i XXXXXXX.deb01:48
Fubberfrogzo1, bah ;-)01:48
Paradoxxty01:48
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frogzo1heh :D01:48
victorkipper and amarok are the only kde apps that i use in gnome01:48
soundrayvictor, mjr, it does paste things, but only if you've selected them in Ooo itself...01:48
stremicwho can tell me, how can i automatically mount (in gnome) my floppy01:49
paul__is there a way to set copy and paste i.e to copy highlight and to paste right mouse button?01:49
victori use it because i can have lots of things in buffer01:49
paul__i.e similar to putty on windows01:49
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victorwhat do i do in that webpage01:49
victorin the pastebin?01:49
mjrsoundray, right. Well, in any case, it's an OO.o bug. Quite an uncomfortable one :(01:49
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williithanks frogzo1 so something like driver-ipn2220_2.10.03.2004-2_i38601:50
rambo3yeah specilly if you work without of keyboard01:50
frogzo1willii: probably ip222001:50
soundraymjr, what confuses me is that it did work for me before, and now it's stopped. Well, never mind. Thank you for checking it on your side.01:50
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frogzo1*ipn2220*01:50
maxicomo me meto en ubustu espaol01:50
soundraymjr, maybe I will report a bug.01:50
rob_psoundray:  Copy/paste is a little kludgy but if you make sure that the text to be pasted, is still highlighted on the original location, then paste *should* work.  At least that's how it seems to here.01:50
frogzo1!es01:50
mjrsoundray, please do01:50
victorsoundray, what are you talking about?01:50
victormaxi, www.ubuntu-es.org01:51
SlugOI made a shortcut on the desktop for my home folder. can I somehow choose the icon so that it changes according to the icon theme?01:51
mjrsoundray, maybe it's some 1.x -> 2.x regression?01:51
maxipero ubuntu en chat01:51
victormmm try irc-hispano01:51
maxiaaa ok01:51
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victortry /server libres.irc-hispano.org01:51
holycowwould anyone know how to force firefox to use your default font in the font settings, instead of using 'helvetica' when you have that installed?  some pages request 'helvetica' and other shitty ms font substitutions and it would be nice to force foxy to to actually do what the system admint told it to01:51
soundraymjr, no, I;m sure I had it working in 1.9.19201:51
williithanks frogzo101:51
victorthen try /join #ubuntu01:51
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mjrsoundray, 'k01:52
victorand let's see if there's someone there lol01:52
victorfrogzo1, is there any bot with common help?01:52
victor!help01:53
Tony_SidawayHelp message01:53
stremichello victor, can you help me please01:53
frogzo1!tell victor about ubotu01:53
ubuntu2hey, if i'm running from a livecd, but I need to use that drive to burn an image to cd ON THAT DRIVE, is it possible to do without rebooting?01:53
soundrayrob_p, mjr, strange, I can paste things that are highlighted in firefox, but not in gnome-terminal, gedit or emacs.01:53
victoranybody says anything lol01:53
victorstremic, tell me01:53
victormaybe i can01:53
frogzo1ubuntu2 nope01:53
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victorbut i doubt so, i'm newbie01:53
victor:$01:53
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stremicmy floppy doesnnt mount in gnome . the error mesage isr no valid udi, but in the terminal i can mount it under sudo01:54
soundrayvictor, do you want to copy your /var/log/messages to pastebin?01:54
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liberviscoHello, I've got this great annoyance with apt-get that wasn't there in hoary01:54
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victorif you can mount it by the terminal01:55
victortry editing your /etc/fstab01:55
liberviscoevery time I do apt-get update it downloads the whole database all over again instead of just the differences01:55
liberviscoin hoary it wasn't so01:55
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victori think there are options to mount things automatically when they are plugged01:55
victorhowever...01:55
soundraystremic, have you played with the options in System-Preferences-Removable Drives ?01:55
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rob_psoundray:  Yeah, that's strange.  Not sure what to tell ya on that one.  I just tried it here and I was able to copy from a text file open in gedit, and past it into a oo document just fine.01:56
victorsince when a pc detects when a floppy is inserted?01:56
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frogzo1victor: can be done - there's an option for fstab (racks brains....)01:56
victorthat's cool01:57
rambo3when light tourns green01:57
victorsoundray, yes, frogzo1 asked me about my /var/log/messages01:57
stremicwhat should i editing in fstab,01:57
victorstremic, i don't know that... try looking in forums, i remember reading something about mounting devices automatically01:58
soundraystremic, try System-Preferences-Removable Drives before you touch your fstab.01:58
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victoryeah, listen to them, they may help you better ;)01:58
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stremicthank soundray and victor mfg stremic01:59
frogzo1victor: my guess is that gnome isn't shutting down cleanly - a reinstall might be a good plan, or just mv aside your .gconf and .gconfd directories & logout/login01:59
tuyanhi all, i want to use blowfish shadow file for my server. how can i do it ?01:59
victorfrogzo1, yeah i thought about a reinstall..01:59
frogzo1victor: reinstall of gnome that is, but try moving aside the directories first01:59
victorso i think i will, because i also want to clean the hd02:00
soundrayrob_p, more weirdness: when I select sth in OO Writer and middle-click in emacs, Openoffice freezes and emacs shows the *previous* clipboard contents after a while...02:00
seriesxrunning synaptic results in "segmentation fault" every now and then, but when I reboot it works again. any idea?02:00
liberviscoso how can I make apt-get update to download only changes in the repo database and not the whole database every time it's ran?02:01
soundrayrob_p, Openoffice is dead in the water right now :)02:01
holycow*hmmm*02:01
holycowanyone have hoary installed by chance?02:01
victorlibervisco, when i run apt-get update it only updates the changes in the database02:02
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frogzo1seriesx: anything in /var/log/messages?02:02
victorare you sure it downloads the whole database each time you run it?02:02
frogzo1holycow: the answer to your problem = upgrade to breezy :)02:02
liberviscovictor, yes.. the same as I when i was running it the first time02:02
liberviscoit's breezy02:02
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liberviscothat chunk of some 500kb and then that 2MB chunk which takes about 15 minutes on modem02:03
victorlibervisco, try using aptitude instead apt-get02:03
holycowfrogzo1, lol, actually no, i'm looking for the shiny metal gnome splash boot image02:03
victorit usually works better02:03
holycowthe breezy one is fugly beyond belief02:03
seriesxfrogzo: I'll disabled all logging unfortunately. should I turn it on and check again maybe..02:03
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liberviscovictor, Why would that be different? I already used synaptic and it's the same02:03
frogzo1holycow: install the art manager - pkg is 'gnome-art' I think02:04
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holycowfrogzo1, that is contained within it? weird.  okay i'll try02:04
soundraythoreauputic, Walden for healing? :)02:04
Kamping_Kaiserhi holycow02:04
holycowhey :)02:05
Kamping_Kaiser:)=02:05
victorwith aptitude, when you install sth which depends of other packages, and then you want to remove that main package, it will remove the dependant packages as well02:05
thoreauputicsoundray: think Civil Disobedience, not Walden ;)02:05
Kamping_Kaiserhi thoreauputic02:05
thoreauputichi Kamping_Kaiser :)02:05
Kamping_Kaiser:)02:05
victormay be with aptitude your database is updated correctly02:05
soundraythoreauputic, yes!02:06
victorbut i had your problem as well, i didn't remember02:06
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liberviscovictor, hm.. I'll give it a try but it worked properly on hoary02:06
liberviscothere must be a way to fix it02:06
victorthat was because the update-notifier tries always to update the database, every time you turn on your pc02:07
victorand sometimes i only turn on the pc for 1 minute or less02:07
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victorso it usually didn't have time to finish the update02:07
derek[] E: Couldn't find package libxpm02:07
victortry disabling that option02:07
derek[] ??02:07
victorit worked for me02:08
victori'm going have lunch02:08
liberviscovictor, alright, I'll try that.. I'm on dial up so I'm not even always on and it therefore can't update it02:08
liberviscothanks victor02:08
soundrayvictor, apt-get install lunch :)02:08
libervisco:)02:08
liberviscocya02:08
holycowwhat is the name of the site where i can post code snippets again?02:08
victoryeah, i'm on dial up as well02:08
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thoreauputicwoah, what happened to ubotu ?02:09
Kamping_Kaisero_002:09
ubuntu2how big is a default breezy install02:09
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ubuntu2i'm getting rid of this livecd and installing with the install cd i got in the mail... if it fits on my partition02:09
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Kamping_Kaiserubuntu2: about 1.6 gig + swap after apt-cache clean02:09
frogzo1!ubotu02:09
ubuntu2after clean :( cry02:09
Kamping_Kaiserubuntu2: you want at least 1.8 gig for an install02:09
Kamping_Kaiserpreferably 2+02:10
frogzo1ubuntu2 dl the install CD ?02:10
thoreauputicubuntu2: around 1.8 Gig I think (for the default install)02:10
ubuntu2well even with the spiffy packaging they sent out? still 3x CD size?02:10
thoreauputicubuntu2: erm, the CD is compressed02:10
ubuntu2hmm, reading alternative installation methods, I guess02:10
frogzo1ubuntu2 20gigs is better :) disk is cheap02:11
ubuntu2figures d;)02:11
derek[] How do I install libxpm ?02:11
thoreauputicubuntu2: you can do a "server" install then add stuff02:11
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derek[] E: Couldn't find package libxpm02:11
ubuntu2its 4am, nothing is open... and i'm poor02:11
ubuntu2my cd burner just broke, i'm using my dvdwriter as the "cdrom" in this livecd session02:11
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derek[] ubuntu2, :(02:11
soundrayderek[] , try libxpm402:11
stremichello, who can tell me, how can i configure mounting without root or sudo permissions02:12
derek[] soundray, ok02:12
derek[] soundray, btw, I  need it because of this: configure: error: Could not find XpmReadFileToPixmap in -lXpm.02:12
BockBilbobye!02:12
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thoreauputicderek[] :  apt-cache search libxpm02:12
thoreauputic   <<-- always try this method to see what's available02:12
dabaRstremic: be more specific. mount can only be used by root, with sudo on ubuntu.02:12
soundrayderek[] , ah okay, get libxpm-dev as well then.02:12
ubuntu2k at the booting prompt type server instead of just enter?02:12
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derek[] thoreauputic, ok , thanks02:12
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derek[] soundray, ok02:12
frogzo1dabaR: mount can be used by others if fstab has the "user" option02:14
holycowhttp://pastebin.com/450870  <-- check out the questionnaire i got from adobe a minute ago02:14
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dabaRfrogzo1: the mount commmand?02:14
holycowcan flash and other things be far behind?02:14
frogzo1dabaR: yep02:14
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dabaRfrogzo1: oh ya, the cds get mmounted that way.02:14
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dabaRholycow: flash is a web advertisement technology.02:15
holycowdabaR, congratulations captain obvious02:15
holycow>_>02:15
dabaRfrogzo1: do you ever answer any questions, or just correcct me?02:15
frogzo1dabaR: I'm fine thanks, how are you?02:16
stremicon my gnome desktop, i can not mount the floppydisk automatically, in the fstab is the entry for auto and when i mount it in the terminal i can mount it but only when i use sudo, so i think the problem for mounting on the desktop is i let down the sudo permission for mounting genererally02:16
ubuntu2... even if O02:16
dabaRfrogzo1: Imm fine too, Im just wondering about that one.02:17
ubuntu2err s/O/I ... + want to use fluxbox as my WM I need to install X11 right? and thats like 1 GB?02:17
thoreauputicubuntu2: er, no X isn't that big :)02:17
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frogzo1ubuntu2 dunno how, but my /usr is currently 16.5 gig :)02:18
thoreauputicubuntu2: in fact it's pretty small - you need x-window-system-core02:18
ubuntu2sources ... ls /usr/src :)02:18
rambo3floppy is so 1995 . you can allways manage users and groups , from system -> administration02:18
soundrayubuntu2: du -s /usr/X11R6/ : 55748 kB02:18
dabaRholycow: what is the survey about? tell them you accept non-free software only as a model to create free versions:P02:18
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thoreauputicrambo3: floppy may be 1995 but it can be damn useful at times :)02:19
ubuntu2gracias :)02:19
thoreauputicexcuse language ;)02:19
stremicdabar, can you understand me now02:19
holycowdabaR, its a standard corporate survey to test the demand for products.  it has nothing to do with the theology of free software.  i'm disqualified either because i don't use redhat or because i use linux for everything (i.e. not a casual corporate worker).02:20
ubuntu2is there no way to "skip ahead" in the ubuntu install with a livecd?02:20
dabaRstremic: yup, but I dont know what to do.02:20
ubuntu2I have to power on.. from a clean partition, and go from there... ugh><02:20
frogzo1what's the pkg/command to pull smart stats of a hdd ?02:21
dabaRholycow: a standard corporate survery to test the demand for products is very ambiguous at least. did you read the survey? are they planning on a new version of adobe acrobat?02:21
ubuntu2maybe acrobat for linux02:22
holycowdabaR, i started the survey but was disqualified02:22
bobbydfrogzo1, smartctl02:22
dabaRthats just wrong imo02:22
dabaRholycow: congratulations.02:22
bobbydfrogzo1, part of smartmon if i remember correctly02:22
frogzo1hdparm I'm thinking02:22
ubuntu2hdparm -tT ?02:22
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pinkisntwellanyone installed mplayer from ubuntu and had problems with it?02:23
blue-frogno02:23
dabaRis it a survey. or you have a specific issue, pinkisntwell02:24
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holycowdabaR, shut the hell up02:24
holycowlet the dude talk02:24
holycowthis isn't #debian02:24
rambo3you wish02:24
frogzo1bobbyd: thx - smartctl in pkg smartmontools02:24
Zugotwent ahead and removed my windows from my main box last night and forgot that i don't have vpn client for my job on linux02:25
Zugotthat sucks02:25
holycowpinkisntwell, never had problems with it, but you haveto know what to expect.  often people have problems with an app because it behaves differrently from what they are used to02:25
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holycowpinkisntwell, what issues are you having with it?02:25
mysyfy_where i can found my kernel sources...and how can i recompile it ?02:26
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ubuntu2probably /usr/src/blahblah02:26
thoreauputicmysyfy_: look for linux-source in synaptic02:26
mysyfy_thoreauputic: at /usr/src i have only rpm dir02:27
thoreauputicthe source for the kernel isn't installed by default02:27
mysyfy_thoreauputic: how can i install it ?02:27
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ubuntu2czr, these are from Ghost 2001 Personal (not business ed.)02:27
ubuntu2-r-xr-xr-x  1 root root 220852 2000-08-17 20:39 gdisk.exe02:27
ubuntu2-r-xr-xr-x  1 root root 710534 2000-08-21 22:16 ghostpe.exe02:27
thoreauputicmysyfy_: as I said, look in synaptic for linux-source02:28
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tuyanhi all, i want to use blowfish in shadow file for my server. how can i do it ?02:28
pinkisntwellwait, I'm getting support from #mplayer02:28
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mysyfy_thoreauputic: ok i'll do that02:29
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thoreauputicmysyfy_: why do you need the source, by the way?02:29
thoreauputicmysyfy_: what are you compiling?02:29
mysyfy_thoreauputic: i'm trying to install VMware Workstation.....02:29
thoreauputicah I see02:30
thoreauputicIIRC you can do that with only linux-headers - but I may be wrong02:30
mysyfy_thoreauputic: running the configure script output that my kernel is compiled in an later version of the gcc i have now02:30
thoreauputicMyst0z: yes, you can do   export CC=gcc-3.4  to correct that02:31
mysyfy_thoreauputic: so i will recompile it in the latest version02:31
mysyfy_thoreauputic: hmmmmm i'll try that....02:32
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frogzo1tuyan: man pam - best place to start02:32
thoreauputichmmm - I think the gcc-3.4 solution is easier02:32
mysyfy_thoreauputic: so do i..heheh...02:32
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thoreauputicyou still need linux-headers-$(uname -r)02:33
blue-frogmysyfy_, synaptic search for linux-headers02:33
chrisx1how do i start open ssh service?02:33
thoreauputicno need really - just do  sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)02:34
kukAWhttp://picasa.hu/1133875016-1133820621761.jpg happy santaclaus ;-) :)02:34
soundraychrisx1, it should start automatically once installed.02:34
mysyfy_thoreauputic: right....i'm getting the hearders....02:34
thoreauputicchristel: is it installed? If so it is running by default02:34
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chrisx1it doesnt:(02:34
dabaRchrisx1: you installed openssh-server?02:35
thoreauputicchristel: else do  sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start| restart02:35
soundraychrisx1, check with 'ps aux | grep sshd'02:35
blue-frogchrisx1, openssh-server is installed?02:35
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_jasonchrisx1, make sure you opened port 2202:35
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eth42how can I play midi files?02:35
soundraychrisx1, how are you coping with all that advice :)02:35
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thoreauputiceth42: install timidity and freepats02:36
dabaRsee ya holycow.02:36
idiothow can I play *.wmv files, I've installed the w32codecs and cannot play them with any media player still.02:36
stremichi at all, who can tell me, what the problem is, when i want mount my floppy and i get an error message like this: the udi is not a valid mounting volume02:36
eth42thoreauputic: ok. but freepats is so big.... :-/ gnargs02:36
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czrubuntu2, that's supposed to help me? :-)02:36
thoreauputicidiot: did you read wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  ?02:36
ilba7r!info wxpython02:36
idiotyea02:36
ubuntu2i may not be back soon.. installing via install cd for breezy02:37
ubuntu2... any estimate for a "server" install?02:37
thoreauputiceth42: unless you have a sound card that does midi natively, you'll need that or sound fonts02:37
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eth42thoreauputic: ok. thanks02:37
soundrayubuntu2: half an hour on current hardware.02:37
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dabaRubuntu2: its a hardware thing.02:37
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chrisx1soundray, i cant lolz.02:38
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ubuntu21,2 GHz 1 GB RAM02:38
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thoreauputichmm the bots are back...02:38
idiotwhen I play a *.wmv all I get is sound, and I've installed the w32codecs.02:38
khalifI am so frustrated! The kubuntu disk that I downloaded must have a bug in it!02:38
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blue-frogubuntu2, 20 minutes ish02:38
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thoreauputicidiot: which player are you using?02:39
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idiotvlc02:39
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thoreauputicidiot: vlc can't handle wmv 902:39
khalifI have edited my fstab file every way that I can and my USB flashdrive will not mount!02:39
thoreauputicidiot: try totem-xine with w32codecs02:39
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blue-frogkhalif, check md5sum and verify the cd u burned as well02:40
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idiothow do I run it02:40
soundraykhalif, run 'tail -f /var/log/messages', then insert your flashdrive and look for error messages.02:40
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thoreauputickhalif: try running tail -f /var/log/messages then plug in your USB and see what the system thinks it is02:40
hfxhmmm...my server performance is lousy since exporting some paths via nfs. "top" shows no big performance eaters even if one remote console hangs (on a "ls" for example). any idea what that could be?02:40
dabaRidiot: install it first.02:40
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blue-frogkhalif, if iso file has wrong md5sum u can use rsync to download wjhat's missing i think, it will save you time02:40
soundraythoreauputic, same school of thought :)02:40
idiotI did02:40
thoreauputicsoundray: too slow :)02:40
dabaRtotem is the command.02:41
ubuntu2czr, Ill still be able to see what you say about me ;P so no badmouthing02:41
idiotnow how do I run it02:41
ubuntu2wtf why cant i find my .bash_history for my terminal sessions?02:41
paul__hi, i've got an issue with my screen res in ubuntu desktop. xorg.conf shows the higher res's are availible. however in the desktop i can only choose up to 1248x96802:41
paul__(or something like that..)02:41
thoreauputicidiot: you were told02:41
czrubuntu2, say about you? hmm?02:41
paul__what have i dont wrong.02:41
idiotno I wasn't.02:41
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dabaRidiot: totem is the command02:41
hfxoops, it's a debian server *blushes* never mind my question ;)02:41
idiotI've tried playing wmv files in totem02:41
idiotit fails to do so.02:42
thoreauputicidiot: yes you were - type totem in  terminal to start the app02:42
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idiotYes, and it doesn't work.02:42
dabaRidiot: some just dont work.02:42
thoreauputicidiot: is it totem-xine ?02:42
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idiotNo, its totem.02:42
idiotI've installed totem-xine02:42
idiotbut I don't know how to run it.02:42
DimonPeople! Do Linux distributives have tools for IRC-server creating?02:42
dabaRthoreauputic: do you find that too? that some just dont work.02:42
thoreauputicidiot: I told you - install totem-xine and w32codecs02:42
idiotI DID02:42
idiothow do I run it02:42
thoreauputicOK02:42
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dabaR:)02:43
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thoreauputicdabaR: yes, not all codecs are supported02:43
ubuntu2hopefully your distro is much easier to just stick it in and install (compared to the other distro i've been playing with for 3 days)02:43
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thoreauputicidiot: you might just have an unplayable file there02:43
DimonPeople! Do Linux distributives have tools for IRC-server creating?02:43
DimonPeople! Do Linux distributives have tools for IRC-server creating?02:43
thoreauputicDimon: of course02:43
czrdimon, google for ircd02:44
dabaRDimon: rephrase your question at least if you see noone answering. maybe you did not pose a great question.02:44
mysyfy_Brasil na area ?02:44
idiotNo, no wmv's are supported.02:44
idiotand I've installed the codecs and the player.02:44
idiotVideo codec 'Windows Media Video 9' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies02:44
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thoreauputicidiot: hmm - well wmv plays fine here02:44
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dabaRidiot: paste the output of aptitude search w32codecs totem-xine to paste.ubuntulinux.nl02:44
thoreauputicidiot: I assume you installed w32codecs?02:45
idiotis totem-xine a program?02:45
idiotwell I've installed it, how do I run it?02:45
thoreauputicidiot: YES02:45
idiottotem runs the normal totem02:45
blue-frogruns totem-xine02:45
dabaRidiot: the normmal totem either runs gstreamer, or xine, depending on what is installed.02:45
thoreauputicidiot: no it runs totem-xine if you installed totem-xine02:45
soundrayWould w32codecs work in amd64?02:45
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kyncaniidiot: the normal totem *is* totem-xine02:45
Dimonczr: Thanks02:45
thoreauputicsoundray: not without a chroot02:46
dabaRmysyfy_: are you asking something about brasilian?02:46
czrDimon, np02:46
soundraythoreauputic, good to know, thanks.02:46
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ubuntu2so you're sure.. being in ubuntu currently, and HAVING the install cd in my drive as well.. i cant skip ahead past the hardware setup?02:46
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dabaRubuntu2: why do that:?02:47
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ubuntu2... i'm IN ubuntu right.. the cd isnt crippled or anything02:47
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ubuntu2(I hate having to do magical juju on cmdline to get stuff working)02:47
thoreauputicubuntu2: if it's the live CD you need to use the other one to install02:47
mysyfy_dabaR, yes if someone is brazilian02:47
ubuntu2i got that, I have both inserted02:48
dabaRubuntu2: i do not think you are making much sense with the last 3 posts, try insatlling, it should Just workk(tm).02:48
thoreauputicubuntu2: so reboot into the installer02:48
dabaR!br02:48
ubuntu2alright :) bbs02:48
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dabaRheh, ubotu is not here.02:49
mysyfy_thoreauputic, i get the linux-headers i run the export CC=gcc-3.4....just that ?02:49
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thoreauputicubuntu2: assuming your BIOS is set for that CD drive02:49
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dabaRmysyfy_: check out "/j #ubuntu-br"02:49
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dabaRthoreauputic: if he is in live...02:49
ubuntu2i gotcha, see ya on the flipside02:49
thoreauputicMyst0z: run that before attempting to compile02:49
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thoreauputicdabaR: yes, the system will probably try to boot the live CD again :)02:50
mysyfy_dabaR, hmm tks02:50
thoreauputicmysyfy_: sorry that was for you02:50
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thoreauputicmysyfy_: the export command will apply only to the shell you are running BTW02:51
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mysyfy_thoreauputic, i run the script again...and output the same msg ...that the kernel was compiled with other gcc version02:51
mysyfy_i have to update something ?02:51
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mysyfy_i'm running the script as super user02:52
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thoreauputicmysyfy_: did you run your commands immediately after the export command?02:52
mysyfy_yes02:52
blue-frogmysyfy_, did u install gcc 3.4 and exported it?02:52
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mysyfy_no i have gcc 4.0.202:52
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mysyfy_blue-frog,02:52
blue-frogexporting gcc 3.4 without installing it, not much help...02:53
thoreauputicmysyfy_: *cough* have you installed  build-essential  ?02:53
thoreauputicmysyfy_: if not, do so02:53
khalifok, here's the sit: ran tail then plugged in my cruzer mini. Tail log showed successful scan and attachment of cruzer. When it went to sccan for the file system it looked for HFS+; couldn't find it on my cruzer.....02:53
blue-frogmysyfy_, apt-get install gcc-3.4 or something like it02:53
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nlfsoftwarehello all02:53
nlfsoftwarei need some help please02:54
derek[] how do I pass more than a single package's name in the command 'sudo apt-get install packagename' to install ?02:54
mysyfy_ok i'll do that...tks02:54
nlfsoftwareany one can tell me how to force to close an aplication using sudo?02:54
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blue-frogmysyfy_, and build-essential as signaled by thoreauputic02:54
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mysyfy_blue-frog, right02:54
Madpilotderek[] : with space btwen the names - apt-get install foo bar baz02:54
derek[] Madpilot, ok thx02:55
Seveasnlfsoftware, sudo kill -902:55
khalifThe problem that I have is that when I format my cruzer as HFS+, I can't copy the Linux files that I need to the drive. I don't know why. I don't have any cd's that I can burn the files to and I don't have an ethernet port on the thinkpad, so i can't download the files directly from the Net. basically, I'm screwed!02:55
electr0nderek[] : apt-get install package && package02:55
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virhello02:56
thoreauputicelectr0n: no, that doesn't work :)02:56
bob832hmm, heres an interesting question:  according to the system monitor, my cpu is at 100% but under the processes tab, the only gnome-sys-monitor is using CPU power (5%) - why is this?02:56
nlfsoftwareseveas,  hive the list of options to the comand kill02:56
khalifHow do i stop a tail call?02:56
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thoreauputicelectr0n: apt-get install <package> <package>02:56
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soundraykhalif, Ctrl-c02:56
nlfsoftwareI want to close synaptic02:56
khalifThanks02:56
Seveasnlfsoftware, sudo pkill -9 synaptic02:57
soundraykhalif, what happens when you try to copy files to your hfsplus partition>02:57
thoreauputicnlfsoftware: is it finished doing what it was doing? If not, killing will cause problems02:57
soundraykhalif, ?02:57
thierry_how do I apply a patch on a directory?02:57
khalifIt says that some ornone of the files can be copyed...02:58
khalif*copyied02:58
virI would like it to have the "Open Terminal" entry in the right-click menu of the desktop...how to activate it? there is no such entry..02:58
khalif*copied02:58
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GetHi!02:58
GetI'm trying to install ubuntu dual boot02:58
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thoreauputicvir: install nautilus-open-terminal  from memory02:58
soundraykhalif, the drive is mounted with -t hfsplus ?02:58
williiHi all02:58
mysyfy_blue-frog, thoreauputic, right now did ok the installations...tks :)02:59
khalifYou mean on my Linux box or on my iMac?02:59
dbzdeathdoes anyone know if it's possible to make a fat32 partition hold a file that's more than 4gb? maybe some kind of mod?02:59
williiHi frogzo102:59
thoreauputicmysyfy_: ah, good :)02:59
soundraykhalif, Linux.02:59
Getbut when I should enter the partition size, is it for the linux or windows partition?02:59
frogzo1willii: wassup?02:59
virthoreauputic, thx :)02:59
williiI tried modprobe and cannot find ipn222003:00
thoreauputicvir: you're welcome :)03:00
khalifIt's attached, but not mounted. It can't fully mount because it's looking for HFS+03:00
frogzo1Get: should be a snap - just install windows, then ubuntu & select grub as your bootloader03:00
nlfsoftwareseveas, thanks a lot03:00
nlfsoftware:D03:00
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thoreauputicubotu test03:00
virbut...why its not installed by default?  i mean its important, isn't it?03:00
khalifbrb...03:00
derek[] $ mkdir ~/apps03:00
derek[] derek@linux:~/downloads/pekwm-0.1.4pre2$ ./configure --prefix=~/apps/pekwm03:00
derek[] configure: error: expected an absolute directory name for --prefix: ~/apps/pekwm03:00
williithe folder ipn2220 is in  usr/share/drivers/ipn222003:00
Getfrogzo1: but windows is installed03:01
frogzo1willii: were there instructions for installing the driver anywhere?03:01
MortalKombat-How to log psybnc with xchat03:01
Getbut I cant resize the windows partition03:01
MortalKombat-???03:01
frogzo1Get: do you have a partition free?03:01
thoreauputicderek[] : try /home/you/apps/pekwm  ?03:01
frogzo1Get: ah, i c03:01
Getfrogzo1, no03:02
virthoreauputic, fyi: i had to restart nautilus03:02
thoreauputicvir: yes, that's normal :)03:02
derek[] thoreauputic, ok03:02
thoreauputicvir: it has to re-read its config03:02
Gethmm,maybe I should try partition magic03:03
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virthoreauputic, maybe nautilus needs such an option03:03
thoreauputicderek[] : funny place to put it - what's wrong with /usr/local  ?03:03
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thoreauputicvir: what option?03:03
frogzo1Get: is xp on fat32 or ntfs?03:04
derek[] thoreauputic, so I can keep the stuff secured in case of a reinstall or format03:04
virthoreauputic, "--reread", or "--restart"03:04
thoreauputicvir: it used to exist in hoary - I think the gnome people decided in their wisdom to remove yet another thing ;)03:04
williiI was told by a guy who had windows how to install he gave me a url for a rpm i586 package with winxp driver forwireless then I did alien to convert it to .i386.deb then did dpkg -i  thats it up to now03:04
thoreauputicvir: ah I see03:05
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vir:)03:05
thoreauputicderek[] : I see - alternatively you could have made /usr/local a partition on install03:05
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derek[] thoreauputic, yes, good idea. Although right now its not on a separate partition.03:06
thoreauputicderek[] : fair enough :)03:06
Getfrogzo1, on ntfs03:07
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derek[] :)03:07
vbgunzAnybody have any idea why I cannot update my Thunderbird plugins?03:07
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frogzo1willii: if I were you, 1st thing I'd do is uninstall that .deb - then I'd look for a guide for installing the ubuntu drivers - breezy supports a lot of wifi cards03:08
frogzo1Get: first defrag, then resize your partitions - partition magic, or the open source fs resize utils - qtparted etc03:09
williithe guy who told me has same wifi set up card as me and he has 5.1003:09
Getfrogzo1, but then I will lost the windowsinstall? :(03:09
Getor not03:09
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frogzo1Get: you shouldn't - but you're best making a full backup before you try03:10
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Getfrogzo1, ok03:10
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Ragedhi03:12
thoreauputicRaged: hi - quiet moment in the usual channel traffic03:13
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Ragedi need help03:15
Shadowpillarftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu/dists/breezy/ <-- I found a good resource for w32codecs03:15
mwethen ask a qeustion, Raged03:15
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AllvisHi, fantastic os, :)03:16
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virI can't find the (gnome?) configuration tool for gnome - is it installed by default?03:16
AllvisI just wondering about the hdparm.conf file03:16
vireh for grub03:16
AllvisAnyone wanna help me with hdparm.conf ?03:17
thoreauputicvir:  sudo "editor" /boot/grub/menu.lst    :)03:17
nlfsoftwareok thanks for the tip... sorry but was to buy new bats for the mouse03:17
nlfsoftwarelol03:17
mwevir: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst is a great configuration tool for grub03:17
chrisx1anyone know about touch screen drivers?03:17
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mwebrb03:18
virthoreauputic, what's about the gui configuration? it was really good (gnome 2.10)03:18
thoreauputicvir: in ubuntu? I never saw it ...03:18
virin debian ;)03:18
thoreauputicah03:18
chrisx1how do i configure the eth0 card via ssh?03:19
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Ragedhow do i uninstall Unbuntu??03:20
medicationanyone know when gaim 2.0 is going to be released?03:20
mjrRaged, by overwriting it with something else?03:20
chrisx1:O RAGED SAID BAD WORK:O03:20
pinkisntwelli get no sound from mplayer except if i start it from the cli. what the hell?03:20
thoreauputicRaged: install another OS on top of it? Delete the partition?03:20
thoreauputicpinkisntwell: for what it's worth, I've had better results using xine or totem-xine03:21
thoreauputicYMMV03:21
kuraiahi all!03:21
pinkisntwellyes but I would like to see why this happens, too03:22
pinkisntwellit's supposed to be the best player and all03:22
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Ragedwell, i have windows installed in another partition, but when i delete de partition where Unbute is on, i gives a error when i boot my PC03:22
thoreauputicpinkisntwell: according to whom? My experience suggests otherwise03:22
virthoreauputic, well, then this is outdated: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#id2521330 , there is no "System->Administration->Boot" in menu03:22
medicationpinkisntwell: have to run mplayer from a shell?03:22
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Amaranthmplayer? the best player? ha!03:22
qsrvhi03:22
kuraiapinkisntwell, what's the problem?03:22
samanthaciao03:23
thoreauputicvir: looking03:23
pinkisntwellif I start from the Applications menu it says it can't initialize audio and hence gives no sound03:23
pinkisntwellif i start from the cli i get audio03:23
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janopottergood morning03:24
medicationpinkisntwell: are you using ALSA?03:24
pinkisntwellyes03:24
dabaRpinkisntwell: its a setting03:24
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pinkisntwelli also tried with oss, still no luck03:25
dabaRtried esounnd?03:25
pinkisntwellthe strange thing is that if i start it from the cli it works03:25
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Amaranthpinkisntwell: the menu is running gmplayer03:25
kuraiahave you given audio permissions?03:25
thoreauputicvir: you're right, that seems wrong03:26
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kuraiapinkisntwell, have you given audio permissions?03:26
Amaranthkuraia: this is ubuntu, he has them unless someone turned them off03:26
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pinkisntwellwhat's that?03:26
Ragedhow do i remove the GRUB menu? and let Windows start automatic (not that i don't like UBuntu, it's just i can't use it)03:27
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Vekelarhello03:27
Vekelari'm back03:27
kuraiapinkisntwell,  sudo adduser $USER audio03:27
Vekelarsomebody stole my nick (i'm victor)03:27
dabaR1-888-Microsoft, heh03:27
pinkisntwellbut it works from the cli! most other players work too03:27
thoreauputicVekelar: was your nick registered ?03:27
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Vekelarno, today is the first time i connect in this server03:28
wickedpuppy...03:28
wickedpuppythen you might have been stealing other's nick03:28
Vekelari was thinking of registering it, but i think that now it's too late03:28
Vekelarwickedpuppy, no, because it was not registered. it was nobody's nick lol03:28
thoreauputicVekelar: well, victor is a pretty common name :)03:28
Vekelaris it?03:29
thoreauputicVekelar: sure03:29
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Vekelari thought it was just in latin countries03:29
wickedpuppyvictor hugo ....03:29
thoreauputicVekelar: no, it's an english name too03:29
Vekelarwow i didn't know.. i don't know if that's good or bad lol03:30
dabaRits just horrible03:30
Vekelarhahahha03:30
Vekelarlol03:30
thoreauputicVekelar: even has the female form as in "Queen Victoria " :)03:30
Vekelaroh yes.....03:30
Vekelarthat's true03:30
Vekelarlol03:30
Vekelarand victoria beckham, maybe more famous lol03:31
thoreauputicright03:31
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dabaRor, Doctor Thoreauputic, the lesss known form of the name victor03:31
Vekelartalking now about ubuntu...03:32
thoreauputicdabaR: I was just pointing out that both forms exist in english :)03:32
Vekelaronce i broke my apt03:32
medicationanyone know of a IM client that supports yahoo video?  I'm waiting for gaim 2 to be released (which will merge gaim-vv) but I was curius if there was another solution out there03:32
Vekelari found no solution, so i had to reinstall03:32
Vekelardo you know if there is any solution?03:32
thoreauputicVekelar: probably sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a03:33
Vekelarit didn't03:33
Vekelarthe problem was03:33
thoreauputicthat reconfigures the whole system :)03:33
dabaRVekelar: to what? apt can be broken usually by wrong repository list or other things. for most thngs there is a fix on gnu/linux systems03:33
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Vekelarthat i was downloading and installing sth03:33
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Vekelarand when it was installing, my battery "died"03:33
Vekelarlol03:33
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Vekelarthen i could do nothing03:34
Vekelari needed a package to reconfigure the apt, but i couldn't download anything03:34
Vekelarbecause i needed that package to fix the apt03:34
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dabaRwget did not workk for downloading?03:35
thoreauputicVekelar: you could have downloaded the package from the archives on another box03:35
Vekelaryeah that was sth i didn't think :$03:35
Vekelarlol03:35
Vekelaror downloading with wget...03:35
Vekelarways to be stupid...03:35
Vekelarlol03:35
dabaRthoreauputic: ya, but even without that, there are ways to sane dpkkg after breakage like that _and_ theey are shown in the error message.03:36
thoreauputicdabaR: of course03:36
Vekelarbut maybe the dpkg-reconfigure03:36
Vekelarthe one i tried03:36
Vekelarwas aptitude --reconfigure or sth03:36
Vekelari don't remember...03:36
dabaRVekelar: come to the chan if you have such issues, and post exact errors, this way its theory.03:36
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xeroxHi.  Can anybody use dpkg to find in which package there is this file, please?  /usr/share/doc/texmf/latex/latex2e-html/index.html03:37
Vekelaryeah.. now i don't have that problem, i was just asking for any solution when that happens03:37
dabaRthoreauputic: how come this chan is so quiet in the morning? I guess a lot of people are from north america....03:37
chrisx1im from uk:P03:37
dabaRxerox: yes, ubotu can.03:37
thoreauputicdabaR: I would guess so, yes03:37
dabaRwtheck is ubotu?03:37
Vekelarwhat is ubotu?03:37
Vekelara bot?03:37
dabaRa kangaroo killed ubotu03:37
thoreauputicubotu is AWOL03:37
tuyanok, using pam_unix2 helps to use blowfish and md5 passwords at the same time..03:37
thoreauputicand cafuego isn't around either, I guess03:38
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dabaRVekelar: yes the resident one.03:39
goliathow can i make mysql server accessible through network?03:39
thoreauputiccome back ubotu! All is forgiven!03:39
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PhoulHELP!03:39
PhoulPLEASE!03:40
Vekelarhow does ubotu work?03:40
PhoulI cant login!!!!03:40
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thoreauputicPhazeman: ask a question, and don't shout03:40
dabaRVekelar: when he comes, ask him about usage03:40
dabaRand about ask the bot03:40
VekelarPhoul, have you got your root pass?03:40
PhoulYes i can get into root03:40
dabaRPhoul: write down your passwords!03:40
PhoulI know my passwords03:40
Vekelardo a passwd03:40
dabaRgood, then that is out of the way.03:40
thoreauputicPhazeman: then do passwd <username>03:40
Vekelarover your user03:40
Vekelarand change your pass03:40
PhoulWhen i try to login to either gnome or kde i get a eroor03:41
Phoulerror03:41
goliathelp guys I installed mysql using apt but i cant login from a remote pc how can i change that ?03:41
slumbang.. what is the root passwd when installing in server mode03:41
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thoreauputicPhoul: did you read my suh=ggestion?03:41
PhoulChange the password03:41
thoreauputic*suggestion03:41
PhoulHow/03:41
VekelardabaR, i said !help here, but it didn't work03:41
Tony_SidawayHelp message03:41
ficusplanetHey everyone.  Do lithium-ion batteries need to be fully charged before first use?03:41
thoreauputicpasswd <yourusername>03:41
dabaRVekelar: like we discussed, he is missing.03:41
Phoulpasswd colin03:41
Phoul-_-03:42
thoreauputicPhazeman: right, then give a new pass03:42
Vekelaryeah, when he was here i did that lol03:42
PhoulIm in failsafe teminal because i cant get anywhere03:42
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medicationficusplant: that's typically a good idea, but not completely nec.03:42
dabaRgoliat: did you read the mysql manual? people at #mysql know a whole world more about mysql than we do.03:42
PhoulI need to get back into gnome :'(03:42
thoreauputicPhoul: then you have root rights and you can do what we told you03:42
Vekelaryes03:42
Vekelarwrite passwd colin03:42
goliatdabaR, thank you03:43
Vekelarand then type a password03:43
Phoulthoreauputic: you said login to root right?03:43
medicationli-ion batteries will develop a charge/use memory over time03:43
dabaRslumbang: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo03:43
slumbang.. after I installed "server" mode, took out cd, rebooted, finished install. Now I'm at a login screen. I can't apt-get packages because I didnt set root's passwd03:43
slumbangi have the user i made, but he cant apt03:43
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thoreauputicPhoul: you should have root in rescue mode03:43
blue-frogslumbang, sudo apt-get...03:43
dabaRPhoul: you said why cant you log in?03:43
slumbangbut what is root's passwd03:43
VekelardabaR, good question03:43
dabaRslumbang: visit the page.03:43
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dabaRI always get to the point:)03:43
blue-frogslumbang, disabled your passwd is yhe one to use03:43
thoreauputicslumbang: there isn't one - use sudo03:44
Vekelarlol03:44
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Sp4rKyhi03:44
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slumbanglol, k then03:44
PhoulGah i tried to login and it said something like cannot reach x session and it said it had only been on for 10 seconds and i could be relogged ro something03:44
PhoulAnd i tried everything but i cant even get into ion303:44
thoreauputicslumbang: see  wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo03:44
goliatmysql is dead nobody answers03:44
MadpilotPhoul: did you see something about .ICEauthority?03:44
PhoulYeah03:44
dabaRPhoul: oh, well, if it is or something, then that is fine. go read, write down, and tell us exact error. I usually erase all files under /tmp when that happens.03:45
thoreauputicPhazeman: remove the ~/.ICEauthority file03:45
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Phoulwhos ph03:45
blue-froggoliat, need to change network in mysql conf03:45
thoreauputicbah I meant Phoul03:45
Phoulphazeman03:45
Vekelarthoreauputic, what is in that file?03:45
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ubuntuhi03:45
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dabaRgoliat: no, just wait. and read the manual, the part about user administration, that is what they will suggest anyhow. the manual is available with your install somewhere under /usr/share/doc or so, and online at mysql.com or whatever their page is.03:46
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Phoulthoreauputic: how exactly can i get it working again03:46
thoreauputicVekelar: it's an authority file for ICE03:46
PhoulIm in terminal mode and i dont know how to use it well03:46
PhoulAnd im like stuck03:46
thoreauputicPhoul:  rm ~/.ICEauthority is a start03:46
blue-froggoliat, by default it's only listening on lo03:46
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Vekelarwhat is ice?03:46
dabaRthoreauputic: if he is logged in as safe mode root, that wont delete his user's ~/.I...03:46
khalifMan, i'm about ready to throw this dang laptop out the window!03:46
thoreauputicdabaR: good point03:46
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xor-ptWhere can we see all the security updates since the last ubuntu release?03:47
Phoulthoreauputic: how do i do that? in terminal mode i only have 1 terminal and its runing irc03:47
dabaRkhalif: its a learning experience03:47
thoreauputicPhoul:  sorry - remove the .ICEauthority file in your home dir03:47
khalifI did some more research and came across the mtab file.03:47
Phoulthoreauputic: how03:47
thoreauputicPhoul: open a new login on tty2  ( alt-F2)03:47
PhoulHow do i switch?03:47
PhoulI never delt with this before03:48
thoreauputicor tty303:48
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dabaRPhoul: first, did you boot into safe mode?03:48
khalifapparently it's a file that lists the file systems and other options to check for when trying to mount a drive or file.03:48
thoreauputicI just told you how03:48
goliatblue-frog,    is it something related to skipnetwork?03:48
Phouldoing altf2 does nothing03:48
PhoulAnd im in failsafe terminal because nothing els works03:48
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thoreauputicPhoul: you have 6 to choose from - alt-F2, F3, F$ and so on03:48
blue-froggoliat, don't know u were asking about mysql, no?03:49
dabaRPhoul: do you have a terminal open?03:49
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chrisx1its ctrl + alt + f203:49
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JyZ|Hello03:49
PhoulYes thats how im in IRC03:49
JyZ|Hey03:49
thoreauputicPhoul: failsafe from the login screen, right?03:49
chrisx1Phoul,  its ctrl + alt + f203:49
chrisx1to switch03:49
JyZ|How can i play mp3 files on ubuntu ?03:49
thoreauputicchristel: no it isn't if he's in a tty03:49
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chrisx1JyZ|, xmms?03:49
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goliatyep03:49
JyZ|where i get it?03:49
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dabaRJyZ|: visit http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:49
NgJyZ|: see the RestrictedFormats wiki page03:49
Slartibartfasthello, could someone tell me how to change virtual desktop using the keyboard?03:49
thoreauputicchristel: please be accurate if you correct people03:50
chrisx1JyZ|, sudo apt-get install xmms03:50
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chrisx1well that worked for me thoreauputic03:50
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Phoul2Hey okay what do i do03:50
khalifI figured out that I kept getting the HFS+ error message in tail because the mtab file expressed to look for that file system only. So I edited the file to auto and made new mount directories for the flash drive. Then I went intofstab and edited that basically the same way.03:50
Phoul2Now im in like this stupid black screen lol03:50
MadpilotSlartibartfast: Alt+Ctrl+left or right arrow keys03:50
thoreauputicchristel: yes itworks, its just not necessary from a tty03:50
chrisx1ok03:51
Phoul2My god if i dont get this fixed soon im going to be in SO MUCH SHIT03:51
khalifPlugged inmy fash drive and I'm still getting error messages! This thing is killing me!03:51
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Phoul2Can somone please help me :)03:51
thoreauputicPhoul: reboot, choose rescue/recovery mode - you should get a root prompt03:51
dabaRwhat does your prompt look like, Phoul2 ?03:51
Phoul2What does that do thoreauputic ?03:51
Phoul2dabaR: uhh black with white text and blue bars03:51
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thoreauputicPhoul: it gives you an opportunity to fix the problem :)03:51
leagrisSlackwise, CTRL+F1 F2 ... if with kde desktop03:51
Phoul2But i dont know how to fix it!03:51
dabaRPhoul2: I mean, at the end, is it a $ or a #?03:52
concept10someone please recommend ad cd to mp3 ripper03:52
Phoul2is what dabaR ?03:52
leagrisconcept10, I like grip03:52
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Phoul2thoreauputic: how do i fix the problem if i dont know what it is03:52
thoreauputicPhoul: when you've done what I suggested, at the root prompt type  rm /home/youruser/.ICEauthority03:52
deFryskconcept10, sound juicer03:52
pinkisntwellhow can I play wmv9 in ubuntu?03:53
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dabaRwhat is the text of your prompt in a terminal? something like dbernar1@dabar:~$03:53
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concept10sound juicer included with breezy will not rip to mp3 and I have lame installed03:53
israelhablan espaol?03:53
lucasvois there any setting about sound in rythmbox? I have working sound in totem but there isn't any in rythmbox03:53
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Phoul2~$03:53
nadia007mornin...03:53
thoreauputicisrael: /join #ubuntu-es03:53
laszloki can see my wireless cards in the device manager, now how can i see it in the network settings?03:53
dabaRPhoul2: try rm ~/.ICEauthority.03:53
vbgunzAnybody have any idea why I cannot update my Thunderbird plugins?03:53
israelhola03:53
JyZ|where can i open terminal03:53
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Maifershit, i hate dial up03:54
deFryskconcept10, then try grip03:54
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thoreauputicJyZ|: look in applications - accessories03:54
Maiferis anyone using xcompmgr?03:54
leagrisconcept10, the best you can to evaluate, is try by yourself and make your own opinion. Il like grip because it is a gtk frontend to cmdlines. Lightweight and onvert to anythng you should need03:54
JyZ|found03:54
nadia007israel, si quieres hayuda en espanol tienes que ir a :/join #ubuntu-es03:54
JyZ|ty :P03:54
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Phoul2dabaR: done i think03:54
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thoreauputicPhoul: silence is good :)03:55
dabaRPhoul2: alt+ctrl+f7 and try logging in again03:55
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dabaRthoreauputic: I think he was asking what to do next:)03:55
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Maiferdoes anyone use xcompmgr?03:55
thoreauputicdabaR: you're probably right :) It's late here ;-)03:56
nadia007anyone here have problems with on board nvidia and marvel yukon Gigabit nics?03:56
Phoul2dabaR: thank you it worked03:56
Maiferdon't say marvel yukon if i'm here03:56
Maiferlol03:56
Phoul2Gah now i dont know how to get back03:56
Phoul2What buttons03:56
Phoul2?03:56
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Maifernadia007, i had problems with that ethernet card03:56
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dabaRthoreauputic: dont be a sissy, it's like 3 pm...:-/03:56
thoreauputicdabaR: 2 AM here ;)03:57
Phoul2dabaR: to go to the session i just logged into what buttons to get back03:57
leagrisconcept10, I launch grip, plug a CDDA, it automaticaly sart ripping, encoding to whatever I like (preferer flac) and automagically write a nice m3u playlyst with all metadata included. When finished, the CD pop out.03:57
dabaRPhoul2: get back where?03:57
dabaRoh, ya, you are in au, not nl03:57
nadia007maifer, did you find a solution?  Is it drivers issue?03:57
Phoul2?03:57
thoreauputicPhoul2: be clear please03:57
Maiferyou are on a toshiba, aren't you?03:57
Phoul2Okay to go to this i have to press  alt+ctr+f203:57
JyZ|the media players dont work what is there03:57
dabaRPhoul2: you say what buttons. I like the shift keyl03:57
Phoul2How do i get back to the session03:57
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nadia007maifer, no I'm on a MSI motherboard03:58
thoreauputicPhoul2: to get back ctrl-alt-F703:58
dabaRPhoul2: I said that above. alt+ctrl+f7. how do you knnow it worked if you did not try, anyhow?03:58
thoreauputicor alt-F7 from a tty03:58
Maifermmm i have a toshiba03:58
Maiferwhose ehternet card is a marvel yukon03:58
Maiferwith ubuntu breezy03:58
thoreauputicPhoul2: take a deep breath :)03:58
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lesshaste how can I do a line break inside a \thanks{} command in latex?03:58
intelikeyjust alt+f# in console mode  :)03:59
quail_linuxthoreauputic: do you live in the eastern states of australia ?03:59
thoreauputicquail_linux: yes03:59
JyZ|when i try to open mp3 file with rythbox it say There is no steam on this file03:59
deFryskconcept10, in sound juicer , help and then select preferences there is a section about howto setup a mp3 profile03:59
CarinArrlesshaste, er.. wrong channel?03:59
Maiferjust after installing ubuntu... ubuntu recognized both lan cards (wifi and ethernet), however, it wasn't able to make them work03:59
CarinArrlesshaste, have you tried #latex03:59
nadia007maifer, when installing ubuntu it sees it, but when I get it to detect dhcp it can't find anything... have to switch over to the nvidia card.03:59
lesshasteCarinArr,yes :(03:59
quail_linuxthoreauputic: kewl i live in Sth Aust03:59
virbye / thx03:59
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thoreauputicJyZ|: read wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:59
CarinArrlesshaste, have you tried \\03:59
Maiferyeah, in my laptop, the problem is with the firewire03:59
lesshasteCarinArr, yes...it doesn't work03:59
Maiferalways the firewire03:59
thoreauputicJyZ|: you need mp3 support03:59
Maiferlol03:59
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concept10damn, its not working for me.  (grip) cant find the encoder04:00
dabaRJyZ|: did you install mp3 support? we told you the URl, I believe.04:00
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phoulw00t im back in04:00
nadia007maifer, I have firewire as well on the motherboard...  don't need it wonder if it would help if I disabled it?04:00
Maiferi found the solution by telling the hotplug not to load the firewire controller04:00
phoulIs that all i needed to do?04:00
JyZ|u mean w32codecs?04:00
dabaRphoul: does it all work again?04:00
thoreauputicphoul: evidently yes04:00
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CarinArrsome environments in latex are iffy when it comes to linebreaks.. i'm assuming the normal where you make sure you have a blank line in between doesn't work04:00
concept10okay, here we go04:00
Maiferyeah disable it, and i hope/suppose the lan cards will work then04:00
nadia007maifer, hmm..  might try that, seeing if that helps..04:00
dabaRJyZ|: xmms or libmad for mp3s. wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats04:00
phoulYeah dabaR But what was with ICEauthority?04:00
thoreauputicJyZ|: no - read the URL I gave you04:00
pinkisntwellhow can I see the properties of a launcher which is in the applications menu? i mean what file it's launching04:00
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nadia007maifer, thanks for the heads up.04:00
dabaRphoul, I dont know, but good work fixing that one.04:01
Maifernadia007, edit /etc/hotplug/blacklist04:01
JyZ|now installed xnms04:01
Maiferand add this: ohci139404:01
JyZ|xmms04:01
phoulLol dabaR you and thoreauputic fixed it not me04:01
JyZ|what now04:01
thoreauputicphoul: ICEauthority gives authority for inter process communication - it's used mainly by KDE04:01
phoulwhich i dont even have04:01
phoul><04:01
Maiferthen you'll have to reboot04:01
JyZ|what now04:02
dabaRphoul: yes, that was a joking comment.04:02
Maiferlet's see if then works04:02
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thoreauputicphoul: it can get stuffed if you run apps as root04:02
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phoulLol dabaR and thoreauputic thank you so much04:02
nadia007maifer, sweet.. thanks04:02
israelquien me puede ayudar en espaol04:02
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jah_raztahis there such a resourse i can use to see the current progress of version 6.04?04:02
OneSeventeenI have an ubuntu server and I can only access it from within the same subnet, am I doing something wrong?04:02
JyZ|what now i got xmms?04:02
phoulI would have been in shit if my mom saw me doing this stuff lol04:02
phoul><04:02
JyZ|installed04:02
jah_raztahlike what is complete/incomplete/in progress04:02
JyZ|sudo apt-get install xmms with that command04:02
Maiferisrael, join #ubuntu-es04:02
dabaRphoul: thats nothing, just put $20 on my paypal.04:02
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israelpor favor hableme alguien en espaol04:02
phoulLol i would if i had money04:02
chrisx1dabaR, lmfao04:02
thoreauputicphoul: if you try to run apps as root in X, that file and .Xauthority can change permisions and lock you out04:02
nadia007israel, tienes que cambiar a otro canal, este es solo en ingles, tienes que ir a #ubuntu-es04:03
dabaRisrael: #ubuntu-es04:03
JyZ|dabaR, i installed now xmms (sudo apt-get install xmms) what now?04:03
Maiferanybody uses xcompmgr?04:03
laszloki can see my wireless cards in the device manager, now how can i see it in the network settings?04:03
phoulthoreauputic, so can i still run things as root?04:03
jah_raztahJyZ|, try running the program04:03
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lesshasteCarinArr,  \thanks{every\protect\\one} :)04:03
thoreauputicphoul: never run X apps as root04:03
dabaRJyZ|: now run xmms, it is in the apps menu, under sound and video, and it plays mp3s. you will get it to freeze when you strat playing a file. come back and tell me I was right.04:04
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phoulwhat are X apps?04:04
thoreauputicphoul: if you need to, use gksudo04:04
JyZ|ill try04:04
thoreauputicphoul: graphical apps04:04
phoulUhh04:04
phoulWhat about synaptic04:04
Maifernadia007, does it work?04:04
phoul...04:04
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phoulohh you mean dont login as root04:04
JyZ|debaR, the sound is not working :S04:04
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thoreauputicphoul: when you start synaptic it asks for your password - that's OK04:04
phoulOhh aight04:05
blue-frogOneSeventeen, u need to tell ur gateway/computer what route to use for a different subnet04:05
dabaRjah_raztah: well, for one, you can read the devel mailing lists, search through launchpad, and google about it a little in general.04:05
nadia007maifer, I'm reinstalling ubuntu on my box... it had a serious crash over the weekend due to the nics.04:05
phoulUmm when i start konqueror sometimes i do kdesu konqueror for certin things is that okay?04:05
dabaRJyZ|: does the program freeze when you press play?04:05
deFryskconcept10, i made a screenshot of how to set up soudjuicer for mp304:05
pinkisntwellgmplayer plays sound but mplayer doesn't04:05
Maiferlol04:05
Maifergood luck04:05
Maiferi have to reinstall it soon04:05
jckhi can anyone help me configure ubuntu with lvm on raid104:05
pinkisntwellwhat can i do?04:05
Maiferlinux isn't able to turn my pc off04:05
thoreauputicphoul: if you use kdesu it's OK04:05
Maifer:(04:05
Maiferit was until yesterday04:05
phoulkk thank you04:05
JyZ|debaR, nope it plays... but i cant hear ANY sound04:05
phoul:D04:05
JyZ|debaR, from anywhere04:05
nadia007maifer, tell me about04:05
Maiferabout what?04:06
dabaRJyZ|: your whole system has no sound whatsoever?04:06
thoreauputicphoul: just don't run for instance " sudo konqueror " or try to run konqueror from a root terminal04:06
nadia007maifer, sry just an expression.04:06
deFryskconcept10, http://johanvrt.tomaatnet.nl/sound-juicer-mp3.png04:06
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Kibouare the new nvidia drivers gonna be in the repos soon or should I install them manually?04:06
phoulkk04:06
Maiferi'm not english, loll04:06
phoulOhh thats what i did then04:07
JyZ|debaR, i got soundblast live 24bit sound card?04:07
phoulI did sudo konqueor last night before i logged off04:07
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deFryskconcept10, and make sure to apt-get install gstreamer0.8-lame04:07
JyZ|debaR, but here in linux it use  CA0106 (Alsa Mixer)04:07
thoreauputicphoul: yes, the result is your authority file gets root permissions - so your user can'tt access it any more04:07
JyZ|debaR, strange04:07
trappistJyZ|: it wants to use emu10k104:07
dabaRmy nick is dabaR04:07
phoulumm since i removed that ICE thingy is that a probelm?04:07
trappistJyZ|: that way you'll get hardware mixing04:07
reagleBRKLNWhen i copy a large file, my whole system crawls. Yes, dma is turned on. Any suggestions or is this normal for a cp or kio_file to dominate the resources?04:07
phoulLike do i need to put it back on?04:07
thoreauputicphoul: it regenerates on login04:08
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phoulAhh okay04:08
JyZ|trappist what shall i do so i get it working ?04:08
phoulThank you thoreauputic :)04:08
dabaRphoul: like, dont worry, it will all work out, if it is working.04:08
KBlacKBoXhi all04:08
thoreauputicphoul: no worries :)04:08
trappistreagleBRKLN: a) are you sure dma was successfully turned on?  sounds like your ide controller isn't (fully) supported04:08
phouland dabaR thank you to :D:D04:08
KBlacKBoXsome one can help me to install the java ?04:08
phoulIm just glad you guys was on because i would have had to take off linux is my mom saw that04:08
JyZ|trappist, what should i do to get it work propebly?04:08
phoulSHe hates it as it is04:08
intelikeyubotu ?04:08
deFrysk!tell KBlacKBoX about java04:09
phoulBut if it had a problem04:09
dabaRubotu is missing, deFrysk04:09
trappistJyZ|: I don't think ubuntu ships alsaconf, which is kinda lame... that's what I used to use to make sure the right audio drivers were set up04:09
phoulGah04:09
MadpilotdeFrysk: we're botless ATM04:09
intelikeywhere da bot ?04:09
reagleBRKLNtrappist: hdparm thinks so, see http://rafb.net/paste/results/tCQk4V82.html04:09
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KBlacKBoX!tel04:09
deFryskomg :s04:09
KBlacKBoX**04:09
KBlacKBoX!tell04:09
KBlacKBoXyes*04:09
JyZ|trappist, :S so i cant get it workin?04:09
trappistreagleBRKLN: I'm stuck in a console atm so I'll take your word for it.  you might check dmesg for anything unusual.04:09
dabaRhttp://giannaros.com/breezydebs afaicanremember04:09
thoreauputicKBlacKBoX: ubotu is not in the channel04:09
koVagina Electrica!04:10
KBlacKBoXlol04:10
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intelikey!tell me about utobu04:10
KBlacKBoXmy english is too bad :(04:10
thoreauputicintelikey: waste of time04:10
trappistJyZ|: alsaconf is just a frontend.  it can be made to work, but I wouldn't know how off the top of my head without alsaconf.  or, maybe you could download it and build it yourself.  or maybe I'm wrong and it's available :)04:10
deFryskKBlacKBoX, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#sect-java04:10
intelikeythoreauputic the bot was ?04:10
thoreauputicintelikey: ubotu is currently AWOL :)04:10
KBlacKBoXdeFrysk merci !04:11
JyZ|trappist, Too bad04:11
OneSeventeenIs there a way to make my webserver accessable to everyone, not just my subnet?04:11
deFrysk<--not a bot04:11
intelikeythoreauputic yeah that is what i was asking about /04:11
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thoreauputicdeFrysk: could have fooled me ;-)04:11
trappistJyZ|: you could try modprobe -r whateverdriver and modprobe emu10k104:11
holycowwhat is the ubuntu service called that tries to sync the clock on boot?04:12
thoreauputicholycow:  ntpdate04:12
nadia007oneseventeen, try http://ubuntuguide.org this is a great guide!04:12
dabaROneSeventeen: is it connnected to the Internet?04:12
intelikeyholycow ntpd04:12
deFrysknadia no04:12
holycowdanke, time to remove that04:12
intelikeyholycow or ntp04:12
deFrysknadia007, its the worst04:12
JyZ|trappist, mm u know any emulator i could get steam working (www.steampowered.com)04:12
dabaRnadia007: its in fact a horribly outdated and brave guide.04:12
reagleBRKLNin anycase the problem doesn't seem to be with the drive performance, it's moving data fast enough,  it just makes everything else go unresponsive04:12
erUSUL!ubuntuguide04:12
trappistJyZ|: www.transgaming.com04:12
nadia007dabar, really...  I've always used it...04:12
OneSeventeendabaR: Yes, the other servers connected to the same switch are viewable globally04:12
JyZ|tyy :P04:12
OneSeventeenbut mine isn't.04:12
dabaRerUSUL: ubuntu is not here.04:12
deFrysknadia007, better stop using it ;)04:13
dabaROneSeventeen: does your computer have a global IP address?04:13
JyZ|trappist, it cost?04:13
OneSeventeendabaR: yup.04:13
nadia007just curious... what's so bad about it?04:13
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intelikeyholycow are you asking what init script runs it ?    if so look in /etc/rcS.d/04:13
trappistJyZ|: you can get the cvs version for free04:13
OneSeventeendabaR: I'm just using the IP and subnet mask, do I need to give it the gateway address too?04:13
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thoreauputicGLOBAL NOTICE: Please do not recommend ubuntuguide.org - it's out of date04:13
holycowintelikey, just wanted to remove ntpdate04:13
dabaROneSeventeen: whats the Ip adddress?04:14
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OneSeventeen129.24.216.4204:14
nadia007kay... that makes sense.04:14
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OneSeventeenI just added the gateway address and restarted the networking services.04:14
[A] ndy80has Firefox 1.5 been introduced in Dapper?04:14
trappistthoreauputic: it's a rare treat to see someone spell 'recommend' correctly on the irc04:15
KBlacKBoXsynaptik I belve in U04:15
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JyZ|trappist, i cant find url ? to the free one04:15
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dabaRnadia007: it has the hoary sources.list, and enables backports by default. those are my main beefs with it. It broke my system on the warty>hoary upgrade, and many many other ones that we here fixed(probbably many more, that did not come here) it is not a starter guide in that sense, cause a starter dooes not know better.04:15
thoreauputictrappist: heh - I avoided a typo at least :)04:15
intelikeyholycow i would remove the init script (symlink actually) and keep the ntp (network time protocal) so you can still sync your clock manuelly if you need too.04:15
OneSeventeencan someone try going to http://129.24.216.42/ and tell me if it works04:15
trappistJyZ|: I'm currently hobbled in a console at the moment or I'd try to help, but it's there04:15
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holycowintelikey, not a bad idea04:15
JyZ|trappist, k04:15
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Vekelar15 minutes after my conection hanged up, the nick i had is killed04:16
Vekelar15 minutes later04:16
absenthwould I be correct in assuming Zen is an open source project similar to Vmware?04:16
trappistabsenth: sorta, yeah04:16
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crimsunabsenth: Xen?04:16
Vekelaris anyone using xcompmgr?04:16
trappistyes04:16
dabaROneSeventeen: that Ip address is unreachable from the Internet.04:16
intelikeyOneSeventeen yep04:16
trappistoops04:16
absenthtrappist, crimsun, Yeah that's it....  explains why I couldn't find the project homepage.04:16
Vekelaranybody answers that question, does that mean that anybody is using it?04:16
Vekelartransgress, are you using it?04:17
intelikeyOneSeventeen i got it just fine.04:17
OneSeventeenI just now reset the network interfaces, so looks like it needed the gateway address....04:17
intelikey                                                        UNM Department of Human Resources04:17
trappistVekelar: you might have better luck asking an actual question about it04:17
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OneSeventeenokay, thanks for the help.  (and no, that is not the page on the server, but the server is being used to redirect to that page until the new site is up)04:18
dabaROneSeventeen: ya, its just unpingable, but the web service seems to work.04:18
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OneSeventeendabaR: thanks04:18
Vekelartrappist, lol04:18
Vekelarxcompmgr works too slow on my pc04:18
Vekelari've got direct rendering04:18
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Vekelardo you know why is it?04:18
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trappistVekelar: maybe because you have direct rendering :)  atm composite and dri don't work so well together.04:19
frogz02no ubotu ?04:19
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Kibouanyone tried the new nvidia drivers already?04:19
Vekelari thought that having the graphics card working would help...04:19
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intelikeyfrogz02 no.   ubotu is MIA04:20
thoreauputicfrogz02: ubotu has taken a holiday it seems04:20
GreenCultbuenos dias a todos04:20
Vekelarhowever, i've deinstalled it... i think my laptop doesn't shut down properly because of it04:20
trappistVekelar: it partly depends on your card.  it really, really sucks on my ati card no matter what, and it works ok on my nvidia card as long as I don't try to enable dri/glx04:20
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erUSULGreenCult, mejor prueba en #ubuntu-es este canal es en ingles slo04:21
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thoreauputicGood night all, 2:20 AM is late enough ...04:21
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Vekelartrappist, incredible...04:21
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Vekelarmy card is an ati radeon 128mb04:21
trappistVekelar: the feature is very young and incomplete04:21
Vekelari can't exlplain myself why it doesn't work..04:22
JyZ|how do i get azereus working?04:22
Vekelarthe solution is forget about xcompmgr04:22
Vekelarlol04:22
trappistVekelar: for now, that's probably the best solution04:22
trappistVekelar: also, what video drivers are you using?04:22
frogz02JyZ|: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7527204:23
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Vekelarfgrlx04:23
holycowdoes anyone know if a java deb exists for breezy?  i don't have enough time to build my own ...04:23
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trappistVekelar: you might try with the oss ati drivers04:23
intelikeyholycow yes it does04:23
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olicatany ideas how i can get syntax highlighting in vim, on breezy?04:24
holycowintelikey, googling now :)04:24
Vekelartrappist, would you mind telling me how? lol04:24
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Vekelarcould be a good idea04:24
intelikeymultiverse has it  iirc04:24
erUSULholycow, there are debs but my memory is not as good as ubotu's ;)04:24
holycow!java04:24
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intelikeythe bot's on leave04:24
trappistVekelar: change 'fglrx' to 'ati' in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and get rid of any fglrx-specific stuff in the 'device' section04:24
thefishis it possible to install from a live CD?04:24
holycowhehe :)04:24
trappistolicat: :syntax on04:25
holycowah well, google loves seveas04:25
holycowand so do we04:25
holycow:)04:25
odie5533How do you search in vim?04:25
trappistodie5533: /searchterm04:25
Seveasholycow, ?04:25
jbroome /foo04:25
frogz02odie5533: /04:25
intelikeythefish sure it is.   you might be asking is it easy.  not really no.04:25
jbroomen finds the next instance of foo04:25
odie5533Is there some advanced vim tut some where? vimtutor is rather short04:25
Vekelarolicat, edit /etc/vimrc04:25
JyZ|frogz02, where can i download a free game emulator? working one :P04:26
holycowSeveas, according to google you have built java debs for us poor folk once again :)04:26
thefishintelikey: go on then04:26
trappistodie5533: I think I have one or two up at howto.linuxkungfu.org04:26
Seveasholycow, really?04:26
olicatcheers04:26
PsychoticAmberhi everyone o.O im kelpie from the forums04:26
thefishits an ftp install?04:26
Vekelarodie5533, do a vimtutor in console04:26
SeveasI did build java debs this morning04:26
frogz02JyZ|: no idea, sry04:26
holycowlol Seveas thats the thinkin anyways :)04:26
Seveasbut they're not linked anywhere :)04:26
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valberghow do i update from warty warthog (4.10) to breezy badger 5.04 ?04:27
trappistok gonna reboot into this hopefully-fixed dapper, bbiaf04:27
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frogz02valberg: you need to do a dist-upgrade to hoary - and then to breezy - DONT miss the middle step - google for details04:27
absenthis there a guide anywhere for Ubuntu that covers a Soup to Nuts approach to connecting to Wireless lans?04:27
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intelikeythefish you can use fdisk/cfdisk and setup the new root partition.  then copy the running system to that new partition.  reconfigure a few config files in /etc and blamoh  you've installed.    oh and install a boot loader to start the thing.04:28
thefishwhats it use, grub?04:28
erUSULvalberg, breezy is 5.10 hoary is 5.04. Never tried a two version upgrade at once neither know if it is possible...04:28
thefishpeh, may be quicker to use install disk04:28
RATTriggerLooks kind of busy here04:28
intelikeythefish it would be better to use the install disk.04:29
frogz02erUSUL: it can't be done - it takes 2 steps04:29
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xslfvalberg: I will be hesitant to upgrade two versions at once. It might be risky.04:29
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adjthis is absurd. why would a auto update from synaptic break my nvidia kernel module04:29
frogz02xslf: the docs explicity say not to do it - things will break badly - it takes 2 steps04:30
thefishdoes the livecd not automount anything?04:30
intelikeywhat exactly do you mean "two versions at once"  from 5.4 to 6.4 ?04:30
MadpilotRATTrigger: no, this is quiet by #ubuntu standards ;)04:30
RATTriggerGood04:31
adj!tell me about nvidia04:31
RATTriggerCause I'm ready for anything04:31
adj!ubotu tell me about nvidia04:31
AmaranthYou can't upgrade from warty to breezy, you have to go warty->hoary->breezy04:31
PsychoticAmberanyone know how to do an install using the iso from slave drive and installing it to harddrive? i know its possible, just how to go about it i do not know04:32
frogz02adj: ubotu is awol - i's a tan his hide when he gets back04:32
iikianyone here use a ati radeon 7000?04:32
RATTriggernow in #kubuntu and #blackbox04:32
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JyZhow can i open Install BIN files?04:32
intelikeyno way would i even think about upgrading two releases....  fresh install man04:32
adjfrogz02: it doesnt really matter. im through with this distro and the fucked up repos04:32
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JyZ?04:33
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frogz02JyZ: usually you just run them...04:33
JyZkyi run em04:33
iikialso does anyone know of a good VNC server client that was a GUI interface?04:33
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JyZkybut they dont start...04:33
iikihas*04:33
RATTriggerradeon is weak. I only use nvidia with OpenGL to play the doom....04:33
JyZkyblalba Cannot be shown04:33
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rambo3you have to convert bin files04:33
thefishwhats the default root pass on livecd?04:33
JyZkyhow where?04:33
frogz02adj: as you wish - breezy is very nice though04:33
MonsieurBonhello. I just installed vpnc, but there's no vpnc-connect. What can I do about that?04:33
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JyZkywhere and how? rambo304:33
adjfrogz02: yeh. been running it for the last 4-5 months04:33
rambo3search conver bin to iso04:34
adjfrogz02: and 1 out of 4 upgrades from synaptic breaks sound or video04:34
rambo3chunk or something04:34
intelikeythefish is there a root password on the live cd ?04:34
JyZkysay the bin file is a setup04:34
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thefishintelikey: no idea, i try to su - and it asks for one04:34
adjfrogz02: which never happened in debian, and sure ashell never happened in slack or my bsd's04:34
thefishsudo works without though04:34
frogz02adj: so where 2 next? back to debian? or freebsd?04:34
intelikeythefish 'whoami'04:34
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FleischlegoHeya.04:34
thefishintelikey: non-root04:34
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adjfrogz02: probably a quick ru at gentoo to see how it is sourcing everything, then i dunno deb or slack04:35
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rambo3JyZky search  bchunk04:35
thefishi dont want to sudo xyz all the time04:35
intelikeythefish try 'sudo -'  and see what it tells ya04:35
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JyZkyrambo3 can u find 4 me iam n00b04:35
xslfthefish: there is no root user. to open a root teminal, use sudo su -04:35
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thefishintelikey: help stuff04:35
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rambo3its in apt04:35
intelikeyxslf bull roar04:35
thefishxslf: thanks04:35
frogz02thefish: it's the price u pay for security04:35
adjfrogz02: its dissapointing though. i hope you guys can get ubuntu to a successfull (marketable) point04:36
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thefishhehehe04:36
jckcan anyone help me with lvm and raid?04:36
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JyZkyrambo3 and where is apt :-D04:36
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intelikeythefish you can do a 'sudo bash'   ?04:36
MonsieurBonhow do I get vpnc-connect? I installed vpnc, but it says "command not found"04:36
thefishintelikey: sudo su - worked fine04:36
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thefishnow to mount lvm?04:37
frogz02adj: I'm not on the team - just a casual bystander - would really like to see widespread of any distro though, & atm, ubuntu looks the best bet04:37
intelikeysame thing....04:37
thefishi dont have any lvm stuff under /dev04:37
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thefishmdadm works on live?04:37
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jckno moving physical volume to a raid device04:37
jckpvmove hangs04:37
iikiif anyone is interested in using VNC, get x11vnc using synaptic.  Then you can use the ultravnc viewer to view current X session04:37
eyequeueis anyone else haveing trouble with google?     Your client has issued a malformed or illegal request.04:37
thefishaah its named differently, volumes are /dev/system/foo04:37
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eyequeuethis is just with "lynx http://google.com/"04:38
rambo3JyZky -> go to -> Programs -> add/remove programs -> archive (change to advanced )-> search : bchunk04:38
frogz02eyequeue: not recently - probs ur end04:38
blue-frogiiki, just use system prefernces remote desktop...04:38
intelikeywell i'm at the point where this thing will probably hang.  so if i just disappear on ya you know why.....04:38
iikireally?04:38
iikihaha04:38
frogz02eyequeue:  mtu issues? u on dsl?04:38
JyZkyno results :S04:38
blue-frogiiki, it will do what u want without adding a new program..04:38
eyequeuefrogz02, any idea what would cause that?04:39
JyZkyit say no resaults04:39
MonsieurBonno help here then... :(04:39
frogz02^^04:39
eyequeuefrogz02, i have adsl, yes, but that's never been a factor before04:39
jcki create a phsical volume on a raid device, add it do volume group Ubuntu, and then I try tu use pvmove to free the non raid device04:39
rambo3then you need to add repos04:39
JyZkyrambo it say no result04:39
xoredas i have installed ubuntu before, i had WinXP running. So i installed Linux as "second" system. Now iqam going to delete Windows. My question is about grub. I`ve installed grub on the partition of WinXP, so if i delete this partition, i would not be ablt to boot, or ?04:39
JyZkyits added?04:39
jckpvmove hangs and leaves a mess04:39
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frogz02eyequeue: try setting the mtu to 1440 - your isp might have made some changes04:40
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JyZky:S:S04:40
eyequeuefrogz02, it also doesn't specify *whay* "request" it considers to be "malformed or illegal" (unhelpfully)04:40
iikiamazing04:40
iikiwhere were you like 3 days ago04:40
eyequeuefrogz02, um, okay, you'll have to help me out here, how do i set mtu in lynx?04:40
blue-froghere certainly04:40
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frogz02eyequeue: the setting u need is in /etc/ppp/peers/dsl-provider04:41
adjxored: you need to remove windows. boot linux from cd, reinstall grub, then reboot from the HD04:41
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eyequeuefrogz02, i don't use ppp here, i have adsl04:41
iikithanks a ton, i really enjoy using a vnc client from the school computers cause they are lame04:41
adjanyone on the team here?04:41
frogz02eyequeue: add a line: "mtu 1440"04:41
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frogz02eyequeue: oh - my bad04:42
adjor anyone else have an nvidia card stop working after last kernel upgrade?04:42
eyequeuefrogz02, the file you mentioned does not exist here04:42
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xoredadj:  could i just install grub from my linux right now ?04:42
frogz02eyequeue: are you running pppoe?04:43
seriesxyes my nvidia card stopped working after an upgrade04:43
eyequeuefrogz02, no04:43
adjxored: if you installed to the MBR, yeh04:43
seriesxand that's how it is supposed to be, just reinstall the nvidia driver?04:43
eyequeuefrogz02, this is wireless here04:43
blue-frogyes04:43
frogz02eyequeue: oh, and the AP routes to your isp?04:43
adjseriesx: dunno.04:43
xoredadj : No as i installed ubuntu, i`ve installed grub on the first partition. Now i want to install him on the MBR04:43
xoredadj: how can i do this?04:44
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eyequeuefrogz02, the router (which i don't admin) handles the interaction with the isp, but i do know there is no pppoe involved at all, this is adsl from the telco, not a cablemodem04:44
adjxored: i just told you04:44
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frogz02xored: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst then run 'sudo grub-install'04:44
eyequeuefrogz02, correct04:44
intelikeyxored 'grub-install /dev/hda '  assumes ide04:44
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frogz02eyequeue: low signal problems?04:45
xored iam not sure, but i remeber having problems installing it on the MBR. the linux boot partition is after 8GB on the HDD. Coudl that be a problem ?04:45
eyequeuefrogz02, no, i don't think so, as i'm here with you :)04:45
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intelikeyxored on older bios's yes it is.04:46
xoredadj, frogz02 , intelikey : so iam gonnna install it on the MBR of the HDD, not of a specific partition, right ?04:46
frogz02eyequeue: shift reload?04:46
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xoredintelikey: no its an new nfroce304:46
eyequeuefrogz02, sorry, what's shift reload mean?04:46
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frogz02xored: /dev/hda is the disk, not a partition04:46
intelikeyshouldn't be a problem then.04:46
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xoredfrogz02: yes sure04:46
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xoredfrogz02: iam just asking04:47
frogz02eyequeue: if you click 'reload' button while holding 'shift' key - you will clear the browser cache for that page04:47
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eyequeuefrogz02, um, this is lynx, there's no "click" here :)04:47
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frogz02eyequeue: sometimes the cache copy gets corrupt & needs to be cleared04:47
frogz02eyequeue: oh i c - d'oh04:48
eyequeuefrogz02, ^R does what you seem to mean though, and trying that, i get a fresh copy of the 400 error page here04:48
intelikeyeyequeue don't ya just love help from a GUI perspective   :)04:48
eyequeueintelikey, heh04:48
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eyequeueintelikey, at least i could translate, once i had a description of the intent :)04:49
mikerLadies, gentlemen: Nooby with a question here;04:49
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intelikeyyeah   :)04:49
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mikerWhats the process to update/upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10?04:49
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eyequeuethe catch is, firefox seems to be hosed here at the moment too04:50
nutter426is there a known issue with system admin with long passwords (11 characters)?04:50
frogz02eyequeue: is  this for all pages/sites?04:50
Madpilotmiker: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade04:50
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mikerThanks a ton.04:50
eyequeuemiker, "apt-get dist-upgrade" after you make the appropriate changes to /etc/apt/sources.list and run 'apt-get update' to source those changes04:50
frogz02nutter426: think passwd is ltd to 8 chars04:50
Madpilotnp04:50
_jasonubotu, where art thoumy ubotu04:51
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intelikeyMadpilot who's box is ubotu on anyway?04:51
nutter426that to me intelikey?04:51
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frogz02miker - make sure to install the meta pkgs 1st - ubuntu-base & ubuntu-desktop04:51
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eyequeuefrogz02, ubuntu.com seems error-free here, just google being bad to me04:51
thefishnutter426: there should not be a problem, not sure what crypt ubuntu uses, but it will be at least 254 chars04:51
intelikeymutter426 nosir04:52
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Madpilotintelikey: cafeugo's (sp?)04:52
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intelikeyah04:52
frogz02eyequeue: well I'd say that nails it as a google problem....04:52
Roycei am tying the livecd, i cannot access the internet through firefox in x, but I can ping outside net addresses, any clues?04:52
intelikeyand that whole server is offline atm04:53
eyequeuefrogz02, yes, but of course, like so many, my world involves needing google for info ... and somehow *others* aren't having this trouble with google now? :(04:53
nutter426the reason i ask is because i was in yesterday asking about "child exited with 1 status" and was told it was a password error, but i can run synaptic as root, and it works fine, but when i have to type my password into an automatic pop-up i have troubles. my password is 11 letters04:53
frogz02Royce: can you 'nslookup www.yahoo.com' ?04:53
frogz02eyequeue: maybe try closing lynx & restarting?04:54
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eyequeuefrogz02, if you can reach google, can you find me an email addy there to write to to ask them to repair things?04:54
rambo3nutter436 , did you make root account?04:54
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Roycefrogz02: yes, it returns sveral ip's04:54
eyequeuefrogz02, i tried that before coming here, tried everything i could think of before asking for help actually :)04:54
_jasonRoyce, have you tried a different browser?04:54
frogz02eyequeue: google already know their servers have a problem ;)04:54
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intelikeymutter426 there is no known issue with passwords upto 32 chars04:55
eyequeuefrogz02, oh, i thought someone said google was fine, it was just me, okay now i'm confused04:55
intelikeyrambo3 every linux system has the root account.04:55
frogz02eyequeue: that error 400 u see is thrown by the server - the server will post it to syslog, & their noc will flag it, I'm guessing04:55
eyequeuefrogz02, aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh04:56
nutter426rambo: yes, i have a root account we both share the same password04:56
frogz02eyequeue: google has a huge server farm - there might be a problem just on one server04:56
nutter426any other ideas why i would have problems on 2 different machines with the same passwords?04:57
eyequeuefrogz02, now to just hope that a site with the volume of google.com cares about single instances of 400s :)  i'm thinking they'd only care if 90% of hits weer affected or something :/04:57
frogz02eyequeue: also, would be interesting if you've tried other, unrelated queries04:57
nutter426in case it matters, my laptop is running hoary (updating to breezy as we speak) and my desktop has a fresh install of breezy04:57
Roycelooks like google is the only page I can't load, nm04:58
eyequeuefrogz02, well, i hadn't even gotten to the feeding-it-a-query stage yet, just trying to get connected TO http://google.com/ to get that line on which to type the query, spits the 400 error04:58
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intelikeynutter426 all i can say is change the password and test it.  then you will know if that is the cause.04:58
Roycelooks like other people are talkin bout that too04:58
eyequeueRoyce, you have google troubles too??  i get 400's from them at present04:58
frogz02eyequeue: www.google.com ?04:58
nutter426time for a noob moment... whats the best way to change a password?04:58
Roycei cant connect at all, i can ping em04:59
Madpilotgoogle.com & google.ca both work here04:59
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rambo3i was think of enabled root account , intelikey04:59
eyequeuefrogz02, i've never added the www. before, let me try04:59
frogz02nutter426: passwd04:59
Royceeverything else works though04:59
nutter426ty frogz04:59
Madpilotnutter426: System menu -> Admin -> Users & groups04:59
slumbangfrom a console install, what do I need to install for fluxbox04:59
intelikeyrambo3 it is enabled.   it just doesn't have a password set atm.04:59
eyequeuefrogz02, that still spits 400, oh well04:59
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frogz02eyequeue: seems Royce has something similiar - the plot thickens04:59
Roycethis is a live install05:00
xoredintelikey: (hd0)   /dev/sda05:00
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eyequeuefrogz02, Royce and eyequeue can't go google, but Madpilot can, sigh05:00
Roycegoogle works fine on this pc, same network05:00
xoredintelikey: thats in my device.map now, after i did a grub-install sda05:00
rambo3http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/root05:00
slumbangtrying to apt-get install kde is 485 packages05:00
intelikeyrambo3 every time you use sudo, you use the root account.05:00
xoredintelikey: is that ok for grub installed on the MBR od the HDD sda ?05:01
eyequeuegoogle.ca too :(  btw, i tried omitting the trailing slash on a whim, but it still fails05:01
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slumbangthe /etc/resolv.conf is b0rken?05:01
intelikeyxored yes  /dev/sda   <--- that would be an scsi interface.05:01
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eyequeueRoyce, so you have multiple machines, some of which can hit google and some of which can't? what's unique about the omes that fail?  that they are ubuntu boxen? :(05:01
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xoredintelikey: yes and no. Its a SATA-IDE but this doesnt matter. so i try a reboot now, thank you05:02
eyequeues/omes/ones/05:02
Royceunly this ubuntu box can't see google05:02
Royce*only05:02
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eyequeueRoyce, and only this ubuntu box can't hit google (though i don't have others here to try with, oh well)05:02
MadpilotRoyce: you've got other computers there that can get thru? same net connection?05:02
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intelikeyxored or usb or sata   but each of those using the scsi interface layer05:02
Royceyes, same router05:03
lucaaswhat coomand can i use to see command network usage?05:03
lucaasnot ifconfig05:03
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intelikeynmap ?05:04
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eyequeueokay, this is bizarre ... i DO have a not-current-woody machine here, fired it up, connected to it and IT CAN hit google okay with lynx :((((  JUST THE UBUNTU box can't hit google :(  and yes, samr net connection05:04
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Royceim using breezy badger05:04
eyequeueRoyce, so i guess we just confirmed it to be an UBUNTU problem :(05:04
nutter426i'm back :(05:05
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nutter426i'm not even getting the password prompt at the moment05:05
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eyequeueRoyce, this (failing) box is also breezy05:05
intelikeyfellas this pinguin can access google.com without error.  so it is a ub issue and not a network issue.05:05
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eyequeueintelikey, though i'm not changing from ubuntu :) do you like pinquin?  i presume that's a distro05:06
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Royceeyequeue: you live or installed?05:06
eyequeueRoyce, installed05:06
jgrieveshello05:06
eyequeueRoyce, you?05:06
jgrieveshow do i convert UTC to local central time here in states?05:06
Royceeyequeue: live05:06
KyralCST is UTC - 6 hours05:06
eyequeuejgrieves, i think CST (not CDT) is a 6 hour offset05:06
bart_it is..05:06
intelikeyeyequeue 'pinguin' is a refferance to 'tux' the linux mascot.    pinguin = linux sysetm05:06
jgrievesso UTC 13:0005:06
Kyralbecomes CST 7 AM05:07
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jgrievesmmmk05:07
Royceeyequeue: playin with an old laptop, thought all the net didnt work cause i never try anything but google as a test05:07
jgrievesthanks05:07
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eyequeuejgrieves, but if your box is set to UTC, type this command at console:  "TZ=CST6CDT date" (with that space in there) and it will print things in CST for that one command05:07
eyequeueRoyce, lol, similar here, i consider google.com indicative of "the outside" almost anywhere i test :)05:08
jgrieves10:08:0505:08
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jgrievessounds about right05:08
qsrvare there any other things (ones not mentioned in gnome's help) that I could do to improve the performance?05:08
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KyralPrelink05:08
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jgrieveseyequeue thanks,05:08
Kyral!tell qsrv about prelink05:08
jgrieveseyequeue what is taht saysing 6 hours off?05:08
eyequeueRoyce, oh, and not that it is a factor, but this is a laptop too ... any chance yours is wireless?05:08
Kyralubotu tell qsrv about prelink05:08
Kyral....where is hte bot?05:09
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Royceeyequeue: it is but ubuntu didnt see the broadcom card, using wired05:09
eyequeuejgrieves, okay, consider UTC as being the time it is in london, england right now (but without any summer/winter time changes) ... that's about 6 hours from where you are locally now05:09
intelikeyKyral cafugo's server is off line atm.05:09
Kyralah05:09
jgrievesgotcha05:09
eyequeuejgrieves, i'm in EST5EDT btw, so you're an hour from here05:09
bart_eg?05:09
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bart_wrong05:10
Royceeyequeue: had the same issue yesterday as well on a nicer box, though i never tried any other sires i'm sure they worked05:10
mistik1Can one of you guys tell me what version of  the quota package is in the latest Ubuntu and maybe if it supports JFS?05:10
eyequeueRoyce, okay, so the wireless aspect isn't the problem then, we at least know that05:10
Royceeyequeue: i cant believe theres any chance we stand alon05:10
eyequeuemistik1, Filename: pool/main/q/quota/quota_3.13-1_i386.deb05:11
eyequeuemistik1, not installed here, so i can't tell you about support/performance though, sorry05:11
mistik1thanks05:11
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stratovariushey all05:11
stratovariuswho can help me to play midi files on ubuntu?05:11
stratovariusi wanna use kguitar but it says me05:12
stratovariusstratovarius ho installato kguitar ma mi da questo errore kguitar: cannot create MIDI Scheduler05:12
stratovariusstratovarius kguitar: ERROR opening MIDI device / Music can't be played05:12
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mistik1eyequeue: I think that version supports JFS iirc05:12
eyequeuecool05:12
intelikey:)05:12
stratovariuskguitar: cannot create MIDI Scheduler kguitar: ERROR opening MIDI device / Music can't be played (sorry those are the errors)05:12
mistik1Is there a safe upgrade method from debian-3.1 to Ubuntu current?05:12
mistik1maybe some docs somewhere?05:12
Kyralmistik1: It would be interesting05:13
intelikeybbl05:13
Royceanybody else having google issues w/ breezy?05:13
Kyralthe procedure is known, but its by no means foolproof05:13
rambo3you mean downgrade05:13
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Kyral3.1 is Sarge right?05:13
eyequeueRoyce, so what i think we know so far:  this is a problem only with breezy badger, and this is something that happens with google.com, but not ubuntu.com ... not surprising that google has some non-boring aspects to their servers i guess05:13
mistik1yea05:13
OneSeventeenis it possible to use the Ubuntu Live CD to change the root password of another linux computer?05:13
crankshaftwhere's the ubotu? i haven't been here for a while...05:14
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crankshaftneed to get url for samba tutorial05:14
KyralBreezy is just ahead of Sarge I think05:14
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AgrajagOneSeventeen: yeah, just mount the root partition of the other system, chroot into it, and run passwd for root05:14
stratovariusdoes nobody here use kguitar?05:14
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Royceeyequeue: i guess it would have to be a compatability issue on googles end, but I cant imagine them being incompatable w/ anything05:14
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mistik1I keep running into issues with this debian install05:14
mistik1like needing quota support for JFS05:15
nutter426:'( this is such a pain in the ass05:15
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spolaRoyce, tried deleting cookies/cache/... ?05:15
XiCillinanybody try ubuntu on amd64 x2?05:15
eyequeuemistik1, Kyral, i'm going to guess that installing things like the meta-package "ubuntu-desktop" might be a big factor in helping "most" of the gotchas in a debian->ubuntu transition05:15
Kyraleyequeue: it would be more like Debian still uses XFree86 and Ubuntu uses XOrg05:15
Roycespola: this is a live install, but what is the command, just for kicks05:16
Kyralso X will be removed and reinstalled05:16
mistik1X is of no consequence on this machine05:16
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nutter426i can't get into synaptic at all05:16
mistik1Its a server not a desktop05:16
Kyralnevermidn then lol05:16
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eyequeueKyral, i'm hoping ubuntu-desktop has a dependency on the xorg stuff, but i'm no gui expert at all here05:16
Kyralubuntu-desktop installs everything that a fresh install would05:16
Roycemail.google.com is also unreachable, but similarl pingable05:17
spolai had a problem with getting google to load (on FF) that went away after i deleted cookies n cache. if you can ping google i'd try that first (not sure how to do it in lynx tho)05:17
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sadapups,05:17
jgrievesRoyce have u tried with another computer?  i have that problem with my router sometimes05:17
jgrievesRoyce usually w/ wireless card05:17
sadapany one speak spanish05:17
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mistik1eyequeue: BTW, I have to do all this on a machine 1000 miles away :)05:18
eyequeueRoyce, i've not tried gmail via lynx, i think that requires javascript, doesn't it?  (my firefox is hosed here, but thunderbird is the way i usually interact with gmail)05:18
Kyralsadap: #ubuntu-es05:18
sadaptanks, is obiusly05:18
OneSeventeenAgrajag: do I just create a directory, type mount /root /newfolder, then how do I chroot into it?05:19
eyequeuemistik1, heh, been there don't that, AND been bitten :)  if ever you upgrade sshd, ssh OUT, then back IN, before dropping your current connection :)  that's the only tidbit of advice i'd offer05:19
spolahehe ... ajax on lynx, *good luck*05:19
mistik1eyequeue: Oh for sure05:19
XiCillinbreezy badger has SMP right?05:19
Roycejgrieves: yes, other pc's on the same router have no issue, other pc's with this install develop them05:19
KyralXiCillin: yell05:19
Kyralerr05:19
Kyralyes even :P05:19
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eyequeuespola, is gmail and google on ajax?  is that perhaps why we can't get to it from breezy?  (trying to determine the causative factor)05:20
Kyralyou have to install the kernel package05:20
jgrievesRoyce mmmk :) is one wireless and hte other wired?05:20
XiCillincool thanks i'm getting the amd64 x2 4800+05:20
Kyrallinux-686-smp or linux-k7-smp05:20
vbgunzAnybody have any idea why I cannot update my Thunderbird plugins?05:20
xslfOneSeventeen: chroot /newfolder05:20
Roycespola: cleared the cache and cookies, no luck05:20
spolagmail yes, google search no05:20
jgrievesRoyce just out of curioucity05:20
XiCillinneeded ubuntu to wokr05:20
KyralXiCillin: Eh I dunno if SMP is on 64 bit05:20
Kyralit will work mind you05:20
Roycejgrieves: wired, live didnt recognise the wireless in here05:20
eyequeuejgrieves, my "bad" google-connector is wireless, but his is wired05:20
Kyralbut SMP won't be fully utilizied05:20
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Kyralany 64bit guys wanna help me :P05:21
jgrieveseyequeue was talking to Royce, not sure what you're refering to :)05:21
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XiCillinkyral, waht? so your saying ubuntu will be 64 bit on my amd but it wont use smp?05:21
Roycejgrieves: we are having identical issues05:21
jgrievesRoyce ok, sorry, your proble is one i have wiht my netgear router a lot05:21
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KyralXiCillin: if there isn't a SMP kernel05:21
KyralI think there is05:21
joe_hello all05:21
Kyralbut I'm not 100% sure05:21
eyequeueRoyce, btw, my ipw2200 wireless (centrino) was sensed fine with livecd here, after you get things working for you, please consider writing up a bug report about your wireless/livecd troubles, so it can be fixed for future releases :)05:21
AgrajagOneSeventeen: chroot /mnt/whatever /bin/bash (as root)05:21
jgrievesRoyce i can ping anything, no http connections though05:21
Stonekeeperhi. Has anyone ever experienced the sound slowing down? All the desktop stuff now plays at half the speed!!! How can I fix this?05:21
Roycejgrieves: my router is an actiontech, all other sites seem to werk05:22
Kyralyou could always roll your own05:22
jgrievesRoyce sounds like that is not your problem thourgh05:22
Kyralwhich is fun actually :D05:22
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OneSeventeenAgrajag: is there a default root password for the live CD?05:22
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StonekeeperStuff played through a browser is oj05:22
eyequeuejgrieves, Royce and i are the two here that are getting errors from google only with ubuntu :)05:22
Stonekeeperok05:22
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jgrieveseyequeue gotcha :)05:22
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jgrieveseyequeue everything else runs fine?05:22
spolarolling your own kernel is easy ... start with a stock kernel and keep removing things untill it no longer boots :p (make sure to keep a stock kernel in grub tho)05:22
eyequeuejgrieves, well, others told me it was google's problem not mine, but it seems Royce and i have it *ony* with ubuntu boxen on our lans, not with non-ubuntu05:22
Kyralspola: LOL05:23
AgrajagOneSeventeen: no, there's no password for the ubuntu account and it has full sudo priveleges I think05:23
Manuhi05:23
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KyralIts true though lol05:23
xslfOneSeventeen: no. root is disabled. To open a root session, type sudo su05:23
Manuany german here?05:23
tannerhello05:23
OneSeventeenxslf: thanks05:23
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Seveasxslf, eek05:23
Manuneed some help ;)05:23
Seveassudo -i05:23
KyralManu: #ubuntu-de I THINK05:23
Seveasnot sudo su05:23
OneSeventeenAgrajag: cool, just noticed that05:23
tannerwaassssup05:23
Stonekeepercan i change the sound settings or do i need to re-install?!?!05:23
eyequeuejgrieves, well, my firefox is hosed, but that *is* a local issue :)  but i can connect fine to ubuntu.com with lynx, but google.com gives me a 400 error05:23
spolaalso, disable loadable module support and compile everything in05:23
Roycei guess i can live w/o google, but itll be hard05:23
Kyralspola: lol I did that05:24
Kyralbefore05:24
jgrieveseyequeue have u tried tracert?05:24
xslfSeveas: eek?05:24
spolaRoyce, try scroogle :p05:24
eyequeuexslf, OneSeventeen, "sudo -s" to get a root session in ubuntu, typically05:24
AgrajagOneSeventeen: then if you chroot while root, you retain full root privielges on the other system and should be able to run passwd and change root's password without knowing what it is currently05:24
Manucool thaks05:24
spolahttp://www.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/scraper.htm05:24
Kyralthen for some reason auto loading for the NVidia Module died05:24
jgrievestracepath rather05:24
jasmuzGuys im trying to setup Amarok in Ubuntu under GNOME, and it says it didnt find the proper sound server, even i installed amarok-aRTS05:24
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FlimFlamMani have a dell inspiron 4000 notebook with windows xp on it.  is it possible to install ubuntu dual-boot on this machine?  i will be using this to do a presentation on ubuntu at work.05:24
eyequeuejgrieves, traceroute?  i get a 400 error back, so i presume i get through to the site05:24
OneSeventeenso how do I mount /root from the hard drive to the temporary filesystem?  I created a folder /mnt/tr/ now I want to mount /root from /hda  to /mnt/tr ?05:24
KyralYou need the ESD/ALSA plugin05:24
KyralFlimFlamMan: yes05:24
jgrievesoh a 40005:24
jgrievesfirefox or lynx?05:25
spolaKyral, lol @ "for some reason"05:25
tannerhello05:25
AgrajagOneSeventeen: what partition is / on?05:25
FlimFlamManKyral, how do i repartition without losing the existing OS?05:25
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jgrievesoh05:25
jgrievesfirefox hosed05:25
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OneSeventeenAgrajag: not positive, is there a way I can view my partition table?05:25
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Agrajagif it's hda1, you'd mount mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/tr05:25
KyralFlimFlamMan: shrink the NTFS partition using PartitionMagic or GParted on the LiveCD05:25
Roycespola: joke or not a .com?05:25
xslfOneSeventeen: sudo fdisk -l05:25
eyequeuejgrieves, running tracepath now, btw, what is it, it's new to me :)05:25
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Kyralbut there is always a risk05:25
AgrajagOneSeventeen: uh, fdisk -l /dev/hda I think05:25
Kyralwith partitioning05:25
jgrievestraces path to a network host discovering MTU05:26
jgrieves       along this path05:26
Kyralso I can't tell you 100% that nothing will FUBAR05:26
spolaRoyce, its made by peeps who are terrified google might be tracking them but it returns the same results so ...05:26
FlimFlamManKyral, thanks05:26
eyequeuejgrieves, the pertinent 2 lines seem to be:  9:  so-3-0-0--0.er01.asbn.eli.net (207.173.115.110)      asymm 10 122.632ms05:26
eyequeue10:  no reply05:26
jgrieveseyequeue u should get to around 17 with google05:26
KyralJust SHRINK NTFS05:26
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Kyraldon't move/delete it05:26
Roycescroogle werks just fine05:26
eyequeuejgrieves, implying that at the distant border of eli.net it falls off the face of the net?05:26
joe_Can someone help?  Sound plays fine, but Rythymbox says all my mp3 files aren't valid audio streams, but they played fine in Winhoes.05:27
OneSeventeenI would guess / is on hda605:27
jgrieveseyequeue yeah remember the world si flat05:27
jgrieveseyequeue one sec let me try with lynx05:27
Agrajagok so mount /dev/hda6 /mnt/tr05:27
Agrajagand see if that's it, and if so chroot /mnt/tr /bin/bash05:27
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eyequeuejgrieves, here's the 2 pertinent lines from traceroute, not tracepath, btw:  7  ge-1-0-0--0.er01.chcg.eli.net (207.173.115.138)  68.188 ms  67.787 ms  67.978 ms05:27
eyequeue 8  core1-2-2-0.ord.net.google.com (206.223.119.21)  68.123 ms  68.642 ms  69.056 ms05:27
jgrieveseyequeue i get 400 too :)05:27
Royceeyequeue: i havent been watching your conversation, any developments?05:27
spolajoe_, installed support for mp3's yet? if not go google it05:28
jgrievesAlert!: HTTP/1.0 400 Bad Request05:28
jgrievesdoes lynx support java script ?05:28
eyequeuejgrieves, meaning traceroute goes past eli to google, and tracepath stops after eli.net05:28
OneSeventeenAgrajag: thanks!05:28
Kyraljoe_: Beep Media Player supports MP3s out of tthe box05:28
jgrieveseyequeue probably just firewalls on googles end05:28
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eyequeueRoyce, nothing that seems to be a cure yet, but tracepath doesn't hit google whereas traceroute does, if that's of interest05:28
joe_you mean it doesn't come with it?  What sort of simple user friendly of that?  Thanks.05:28
RockyBurti'm sure this has been asked a million times, but does anyone have a firefox 1.5 deb available?05:29
jgrieveseyequeue I tried with lynx and am getting 400's05:29
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spolathats the one thing i hate about ubuntu its their retarded view on non-free formats ... if Suse can do it out of the box, so should ubuntu05:29
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PerryJrhello05:29
eyequeueRockyBurt, lol, i'd suggest googling for it, but ... no google working, heh05:29
zdhhi all05:29
PerryJrdootoodoo05:29
jgrieveseyequeue but works fine with firefox05:29
Agrajagspola: Suse costs money for a reason05:29
spolaeyequeue, then scroogle.org it!05:29
RockyBurteyequeue: i've been googling all morning (google.ca) in fact05:29
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nutter426i can't do any admin stuff :(05:29
Kyralspola: read the RestrictedFormats wikipage for the explination05:29
tannerhey05:29
PerryJrhey tanner05:29
PerryJrwassup05:29
tannerperry05:29
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xslfeyequeue: he can use other search engines :-)05:29
jgrieveseyequeue doesn't google use javascript on main page?05:30
tannerwassssuuuppppp05:30
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PerryJrhey alexis05:30
alexischello05:30
tannerlexis05:30
alexisctanner05:30
monicamheey05:30
eyequeuejgrieves, well, iirc, your firefox-> google doesn't really go to google.com, does it?  doesn't it append some "hey, i'm special, i'm firefox" stuff to the url?  a modrewrite on the client end heh05:30
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tannerthats wat ur new name is.... lexis05:30
RockyBurti found the ubuntu wiki page describing how to setup firefox 1.5 with a link to building a deb, but resulting deb doesn't install ...05:30
alexiscok sounds good05:30
tannerpfff05:31
spolayeah i read it .... maybe someone should build guerilla-ubuntu n distribute thru the warez scene05:31
monicami love ligers :>05:31
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KyralThere will never be an official package05:31
jgrieveseyequeue yeah seems to be fine though, www.google.com works fine over here on firefox, not on lynx05:31
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eyequeuejgrieves, i've used lynx with google for years, not sure ... but the no-gui-for-me package "surfraw" has a google method that it seems to think works with lynx  (and experience with it has always been fine)05:31
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pierrowill firefox 1.5 be in the official breezy depot ?05:31
Agrajagpierro: no05:31
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topyliRockyBurt: i found things pretty easy when i just installed it in /opt and used the diversion05:32
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pierrook.05:32
jgrieveseyequeue *shrugs*05:32
Roycedoes kubuntu have a live distro, ii could try konqueror then05:32
AgrajagIt'll be in dapper though05:32
RockyBurttopyli: yeah, i may end up going that route, but i hate installing non-deb stuff :/05:32
eyequeueRockyBurt, "won't install"?  maybe we can help with that part.  what errors?05:32
jgrieveseyequeue default install of my lynx gave sthe same 40005:32
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KyralRoyce: yes05:32
jgrieveseyequeue didn't they recently change their search page to be personalized?  go directly to google.com/ig05:32
nutter426i get the password entry box, and thats it05:32
_jasonjgrieves, I had that problem too, a google search gave me this but I haven't tried it yet: http://tux.oclug.on.ca/pipermail/oclug/2004-May/038971.html05:32
eyequeuepierro, dapper is breezy's successor, expect to see 1.5 or later in dapper05:32
nutter426noone had any experience of system admin stuff failing to load then?05:33
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RockyBurteyequeue: its a messed up deb problem (i know a little about building debs) ... the exact error is, "mv: cannot stat `/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/defaults.ini': No such file or directory"05:33
jgrieves_jason ok forwarding to eyequeue05:33
KyralDapper don't use right now05:33
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topyliRockyBurt: i agree, but the diversion helps a little (dpkg will think firefox is installed)05:33
nutter426when will dapper be out?05:33
Kyralstill in devel05:33
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jgrieveseyequeue may i suggest http://tux.oclug.on.ca/pipermail/oclug/2004-May/038971.html05:33
jgrieves:)05:33
KyralApril 200605:33
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KyralFF 1.5 will most likely be backported05:33
RockyBurtis dapper ready enough for those on the bleeding edge to be able to use it? or is it far too unstable ?05:33
_jasonjgrieves, sure, wasn't really following the conversation :)05:33
eyequeuejgrieves, both ig and ig/ give me 400s as well here05:33
NgRockyBurt: if you need to ask, the answer is no ;)05:34
jgrievesRockyBurt no, kernel is bust and xorg is still fighting to stay alive05:34
RockyBurtlol05:34
KyralRockyBurt: if you are ready to handle things randomly breaking then go for it05:34
jgrieveseyequeue *shrugs* that page might help if it opens in lynx :)05:34
topyliRockyBurt: we just heard today from someone who installed it that it's broken and doesn't go online :)05:34
nutter426FF 1.5 is fine on windoze, i've been using it since beta, and i'm now on RC205:34
FlimFlamManthis laptop is a PIII 500 with 256MB.  will it run ubuntu acceptably?05:34
RockyBurti used to run debian unstable for several years (i never ran a single stable debian version)... was able to cope with the occassional breakage05:34
topyliRockyBurt: might be fixed tomoroow of course :)05:34
ChousukeFlimFlamMan: depends what you call acceptable. :)05:35
Chousuke+on05:35
jgrievestopyli network thing isn't to hard to fix05:35
seliniumFlimFlamMan, yes but I would consider xubuntu05:35
ChousukeFlimFlamMan: it has enough RAM to run GNOME05:35
jgrievestopyli with transfer over to xorg a lot of mice work broken :)05:35
slumbanghow do i search the packages to find a specific file i'm looking for05:35
jgrievestopyli xorg 7 that is05:35
topyliRockyBurt: ubuntu's development versions are more like experimental than unstable05:35
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FlimFlamManChousuke, at a level of performance that you'd want to present to people that haven't really used linux/ubuntu before  :-)05:35
ChousukeFlimFlamMan: but as selinium said, consider cubuntu :)05:35
Chousukexubuntu*05:35
RockyBurttopyli: more liking debian 'testing' perhaps? i always found that a tad bit too unstable ;)05:35
jgrievestopyli i have to say i a ma big fan of the new splash screen, i laughed for a long time05:35
xslfFlimFlamMan: Althugh it can run Gnome, I would use XFCE on such a laptop05:36
eyequeuejgrieves, it seems the summary of that is "the box has too many apps on it"?05:36
khalifHey guys, great new: I saved a bunce of money by switching to geiko!05:36
selinium.msg ubotu xubuntu05:36
Kyral.....05:36
seliniummsg ubotu xubuntu05:36
KyralUbotu isn't here right now05:36
rambo3fluxbox05:36
jgrieveseyequeue __jason pointed that out05:36
khalifNah, i finally got my USB flash drive to work!05:36
seliniumarghh05:36
khalif:)05:36
eyequeuejgrieves, i do note this is a RECENT breakage with lynx, so i hope that google undoes whatever insanity they recently did :(05:36
jgrieveseyequeue i am not quite sure what to tell you except to google :)05:36
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topylijgrieves: i'll upgrade after gnome releases 2.14, not before :)05:37
eyequeuejgrieves, lol05:37
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jgrievestopyli  good call :)05:37
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topyliselinium: use / to give irc commands :)05:37
pierrois there a firefox 1.5 package for ubuntu breezy yet (backport) ?05:37
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robotgeek!firefox1.505:37
khalifI have another problem now. I'm trying to compile a cvs file and I got an error that says I need autoconf.pl 2.53 or newer05:37
eyequeueRoyce,  http://tux.oclug.on.ca/pipermail/oclug/2004-May/038971.html ... *if* your problem was using lynx ... if it was using firefox, please let me know05:38
Kyralrobotgeek: No Bot :P05:38
topylijgrieves: yeah, that's what i did before and all was well. the ubuntu preview releases on the same day05:38
jgrievesno obutu05:38
_jasonubotu is gone, search the forums pierro you will find a sticky about the firefox backport05:38
robotgeekKyral: ugghh, where's cafeugo05:38
nutter426this is driving me crazy :'(05:38
Roycei hope goole fixes whatever this issue is, thanx for the help guys, if its still down in a few then i'll be back askin the same questions,  again thanx05:38
topylijgrieves: might have something to do with "some" notorious gnome people on the ubuntu team :)05:38
jgrievesRoyce good luck05:38
robotgeekpierro: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion05:38
eyequeueRoyce, agreed, if google changed something, they'd better revert05:38
khalifI checked the branches on www.kde.org and the last autoconf file that the have was made like two months ago.05:38
Royceeyequeue: i was tryin firefox05:38
jgrievestopyli haha most likely05:39
eyequeueRoyce, okay cool then, you had the problem in firefox, not in lynx, so this is something else05:39
Royceis lynx even installed by default, i tried it but couldnt find it05:39
khalifIs there a way that I can find a newer version of that file?05:39
jgrievesRoyce no, apt-get install lynx05:39
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eyequeuecome to think of it lynx ON WOODY does connect lust fine to google :(05:39
pierrothanks guyz05:39
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eyequeueso this isn't specifically a lynx/google issue, this is a breezy/google issue, as far as i can see so far05:40
_jasoneyequeue, possible a lynx in breezy issue?05:40
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eyequeuei just wish it were happenening to all breezy users, so it would be easier to diagnose05:40
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Kyraleyequeue: thats mean05:41
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HollyHi05:41
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Hollyjemand hier der deutsch spricht?05:41
eyequeue_jason, no, unfortunately.  Royce had that problem with breezy and firefox05:41
deFrysk!de05:41
deFryskshit05:41
KyralHolly: #ubuntu-de05:41
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eyequeueKyral, nah, just looking for clarity, not looking to harm breezy users :)05:41
FlimFlamManKyral, is gparted on the breezy installer cd?05:41
deFryskHolly, try /j #ubuntu-de05:41
rambo3lynx http://www.google.com -> Warning!: HTTP/1.0 400 Bad Request05:42
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KyralFlimFlamMan: LiveCD05:42
FlimFlamManok05:42
nutter426is it possible a reinstall of breezy would allow me to get into the admin stuff on the system menu?05:42
RockyBurtwow, firefox 1.5 on ubuntu is  waaaay faster than standard ubuntu firefox05:42
_jasoneyequeue, I'm gonna try the suggestion in that link about having too many programs listed in some file for lynx... I bet that resolves it05:42
RockyBurtperhaps its because of not as many extensions installed05:42
KyralEpiphany > Firefox ;P05:42
Shadowlinewow, theres a linux driver for the Airport Extreme out now!!05:43
deFryskRockyBurt, 1.5 is faster, period05:43
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KyralDeer Park > Epiphany > Firefox ;P05:43
deFryskRockyBurt, also in dapper the firebird is faster05:43
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eyequeue_jason, if you do manage to get a change from broken to working, can you file the bug whereever you think best?  lynx?  (i think it's a google thing myself, but they'd be more likely to listen to "ubuntu" than me, plus that, i go in the hospital tomorrow05:44
XiCillinkyral, i looked around but i didn't see anything that said ubuntu doesn't have SMP on 64-bit05:44
XiCillinhopefully they do anybody know?05:44
KyralXiCillin: packages.ubuntu.com and search for SMP in the AMD64 arch05:45
XiCillinalrgithy05:45
phiqtionnalioth: busy?05:45
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KyralI can't search because I'm using x86 and don't have access to the AMD64 repos05:45
_jasoneyequeue, I'll do that, I have class right now but later tonight I'll try this05:46
_jasoneyequeue, hospital D:  hope you feel better05:46
eyequeuenow, after all this, how do imanage to recall *why* i was trying to look something up on google anyway?  what was i trying to fix before this google-breakage distracted me, lol05:46
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XiCillinkyral: kernel-headers-2.6.11-9-amd64-k8-smp :-)05:47
eyequeue_jason, thanks man, and good luck in class :)05:47
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XiCillinthey do SWEET!05:47
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gi2k15How can I see kernel's version?05:48
roberto_Good morning, how to i make myself root in ubuntu? su doesn't seem to be working by default05:49
holycowuname -a05:49
deFryskuname -r05:49
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gi2k15Thnaks05:49
_native_roberto_; sudo05:49
phiqtionhow can i install azureus in ubuntu?05:49
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roberto_thanks _native_05:50
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MoonRangeri go to System --> Administration --> Synaptic Package Manager and i get this error E: Malformed line 35 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)05:50
MoonRangersays go to Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem. .. then i am lost05:50
KyralMoonRanger: look at line 3505:50
_native_MoonRanger; check your sources.list against a correct file05:50
_native_a correct example can be found @05:51
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MoonRangerin the repository area of the package manager05:51
_native_shoot i forgot the url05:51
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MoonRangerim a complete newbie when it comes to ubuntu and linux05:52
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_native_MoonRanger; no goto the terminal applications>accesories>terminal then type:   cd /etc/apt && less sources.list05:52
ravi_how to install graphics drivers for "S3 unichrome II" ??05:52
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phyburnon IDE cables does it matter witch sides goes where05:53
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MoonRangeris thier a way to just replace that file05:53
phyburnbecause on my IDE cables have a blue end and a black end any one know if it matters05:53
ravi_ how to install graphics drivers for "S3 unichrome II" ??05:53
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_native_MoonRanger; yes you need a correct file but i dont remomber the link to it05:54
MoonRangerwould it be on the ubuntu cd ..05:54
ravi_how to install graphics drivers for "S3 unichrome II" ??05:54
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_native_MoonRanger; uhh :p yeah probably.05:56
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MoonRangerok ..05:56
NiLzhi, what font package do I need to install to get the font "Fixed" + windows fonts (Arial etc) working in breezy?05:57
Kyralmstcorefonts I believe05:57
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linuxgeek79!fonts05:57
KyralNo bot05:57
ravi_how to install graphics drivers for "S3 unichrome II" ??05:57
linuxgeek79oh05:57
ravi_how to install graphics drivers for "S3 unichrome II" ??05:57
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linuxgeek79hmmmmmmmmm05:57
linuxgeek79help05:57
linuxgeek79how do I install ttf fonts05:58
ravi_ how to install graphics drivers for "S3 unichrome II" ??05:58
Madpilotlinuxgeek79: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto05:58
linuxgeek79thanks Madpilot05:59
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passkillrhi05:59
passkillrdoes anyone have an idea06:00
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passkillrabout getting gnome 2.12 on06:00
bedwardsWhat is the new theme manager in breezy?06:00
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passkillrsarge06:00
Kyralpasskillr: try #debian06:00
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MoonRangernow i got that working .. thanks ..06:01
MoonRangeri have another question .. where do i find either oidentd or pidentd in 5.1006:02
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MitjaWhich player supports Intel Video 3.2 (iv32) codec?06:03
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chrisx1yer i wanted u to06:03
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chrisx1ops06:03
chrisx1hey any ideas of touchscreens?06:04
xorDoes firefox crash for anyone else when totem tries to watch quicktime videos?06:04
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xorUnder Ubuntu.06:04
bedwardsIs there a new theme / art manager in breezy that connects to art.gnome.org in the background?06:04
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bedwardsI was just looking at touch screens myself (just briefly), I don't have any good advise, but would be interested to see Ubuntu on touch.06:05
deFryskbedwards, try  apt-get install gnome-art06:05
chrisx1i have some drivers06:05
chrisx1that work with most06:05
chrisx1but hard to install06:05
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ravi_ how to install graphics drivers for "S3 unichrome II" ??06:06
chrisx1bedwards, try on elotouch.com06:06
ravi_ how to install graphics drivers for "S3 unichrome II" ??06:06
deFryskxor doe you have w32codecs installed ?06:06
ravi_ how to install graphics drivers for "S3 unichrome II" ??06:06
Dr_Willisgoogle issue? ive not noticed any.06:07
chrisx1ravi_, dont flood06:07
Dr_WillisHmm.06:07
Dr_Willisravi_,  when in doubt.. go check the forums first.06:07
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chrisx1:o06:07
chrisx1lolz06:07
Dr_Willisravi_,  when in doubt.. go check the wiki first, forums second. :P06:07
chrisx1FOrums!:P06:07
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virhiya!06:08
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wolkihi!06:08
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virhow to get this *beep* (pcspkr) quiter?06:08
phyburnim getting I/O errors when im partitioning any ideas06:09
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mali_dani???06:09
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bittercoldsomebody from catalonia?06:10
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deFryskbittercold, spanish ?06:11
wolkiI just got a friend of mine who has a problem connecting to the internet. He has wireless disabled, and turned off hardware-side, but it doesn't seem to accept setting the standard gateway to eth0 (which is, of course, activated). Dioes someone have an idea, and how can we set this from the command line? oh, it worked fine for weeks, the problem had occurred once already but then it was fixed by rebooting, which doesn't help anymore.06:11
bittercoldyes06:11
ompaul!es06:11
FlimFlamManis it possible to scan a cd to make sure all files on it are readable?06:12
deFryskbittercold, try /j #ubuntu-es06:12
ompaulbut then es = equal catalan06:12
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deFryskompaul, its likely more catalans are in -es06:12
wolkiany ideas would be very appreciated... I know next to nothing about laptops and wireless, can't afford it ^^;;06:12
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deFryskor is it catalanians ?06:12
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ompaulcatalonians06:12
bittercoldthanks deFrysk06:12
deFryskbittercold, yw ;)06:13
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wolkiFlimFlamMan: tried just copying it to the hdd?06:13
deFryskwen will the bot be back ?06:13
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AmaranthdeFrysk: Both the bot and its owner are MIA.06:14
deFryskMIA = ?06:14
spolamissin in action06:14
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ompaulmissing in action06:14
deFryski see06:14
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deFrysk*dutch06:14
ompauldeFrysk, getting confused about where you are from? ;-)06:15
deFryskompaul, lol06:15
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FlimFlamMani'm having this problem - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=82017  -  booting livecd dies when trying to retrieve libc6-udeb.  is there a fix?06:15
Luixscomo me cambio a ubuntu en espao?06:15
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Luixsa el irc de espaol??06:15
deFryskompaul, great , thanks :)06:15
ompaul!es06:15
deFryskLuixs, try /j #ubuntu-es06:16
Luixs#ubuntu es06:16
Dr_Willis#ubuntu-es06:16
Luixsthanks06:16
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ompaulLuixs, >>>>>/join #ubuntu-es<<<<06:16
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DrBairsituation... I'm behind an evil firewall that lets NO traffic out of the network.  The only way out (that I know of) is through an unauthenticated proxy that allows http, https, and ftp traffic. Any idea how I might ssh outside of the network?06:16
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Dr_Willis:) and perhaps get fired? :P06:17
xerxes1358Hi06:17
xerxes1358he does ubuntu has a FDISK tool during the install ?06:17
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DrBairDr_Willis:  shhhh!06:17
spolaDrBair, use an ajax terminal ? except this will probably not encrypt the data you send to the website06:17
DrBairdon't tell anyone06:17
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Dr_WillisDrBair,  a ssh tunnle perhaps. tht seems to be the answer for most things :P06:17
wolkiso, if we "ifconfig eth0 up", would that activate it as the gateway (if nothing else is connected)?06:17
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khalifWhat does the ln command mean?06:18
DrBairunfortunately all the ports are locked off, so I can't ssh tunnel06:18
Dr_Williskhalif,  'link'06:18
Dr_WillisDrBair,  set up the tunnle on the ftp port ?06:18
_native_what are you guys talking about?06:18
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_native_ajax? encryption?06:18
DrBairspola:  know of any web apps that would do that?06:19
_native_mesa likes06:19
khalifwha if there is -s afte ln?06:19
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freeloveim having tons of problems! can i make hda5 to hda1 and hda1 to hda5? i want to install 9806:19
ompaulDr_Willis,  I can't tell you that if your ssh box ran on port 80 as opposed to ohh 22 and then you went ssh far box you could loose your job06:19
wolkikhalif: makes a symbolic link06:19
Dr_Williskhalif,  try 'man ls' and read all about it.06:19
phiqtionis there a tutorial for cedega in ubuntu?06:19
freeloveto d: and not c:.........plz help me!!06:19
freelove[22:43]  <freelove> otherwise my bro will format my linux partition!06:19
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spolaDrBair, well it all depends on how much you trust the website :-) but yeah if you google you'll find tuns06:19
ravi_reg " how to install graphics drivers for "S3 unichrome II" ??" could not get frm the links specified in the forums06:19
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DrBairDr_Willis:  ftp goes through the proxy like everything else06:19
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Dr_Willisompaul,  geting where companies are getting more paranoid about everything ese days. :P06:19
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DrBairspola:  I'll just run it off my webserver06:20
ompaulDr_Willis, it might not be a good idea at all06:20
Dr_Willisompaul,  i agree.. :P06:20
fdrhello! could you please tell me whether I am supposed to file bugs on bugzilla or launchpad? thank you!06:20
phiqtionis there a tutorial for cedega in ubuntu?06:20
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ravi_how to install graphics drivers for "S3 unichrome II" ??06:20
spolathere are also some java applets that allow for that, but note that if they do traffic analys you're probably fired06:20
freelovesomeone plz help me:(06:20
ravi_how to install graphics drivers for "S3 unichrome II" ??06:20
deFryskphiqtion, no06:20
freelovei'll lose kubuntu!06:21
ompaulDr_Willis, actually I would most likely try the https port cos they do not expect to do that06:21
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Dr_Willisphiqtion,  you mean how to install the cedega-cvs ? - i think thers a wilki page for that.06:21
_native_someone help ravi_06:21
thefishfreelove: change the drives around and change jumpers06:21
FlimFlamManhow can i definitively ensure that the integrity of my ubuntu install has not been compromised?  the ISO md5 checksum matches, but running a CD integrity check tells me the MD5sum of "cdrom-core-modules" fails.06:21
ompaulDr_Willis, but actually do nothing cos I like getting paid at the end of the week06:21
_native_ravi_; stop asking so many times06:21
Dr_Willis_native_,  if he would actually give some details he may get some help. :P06:21
thefishhda1 is always the first partition on the primary master06:21
freelovethefish: how to do that? im n00b......06:21
spolaand if you run your own server, dont bother about encrypting the data you send to it over ajax, just use https :p06:21
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thefishwhy do you want to change them freelove06:21
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_native_Dr_Willis; true06:21
phiqtionDr_Willis: yes, where @?06:21
naliothphiqtion: did you get sorted?06:22
freelovethefish: coz i wanna install 98 to d: not c:06:22
freelovewin98 i mean06:22
phiqtionnalioth: BRO!!!! i have missed u dude. im trying to get into gaming on linux. any info?06:22
deFrysk98 only installes to c I believe06:22
Dr_Willisphiqtion,   search the ubuntu wikis for it. I bought cedega. :P06:22
thefishfreelove: it does not matter06:22
DrBairspola:  probably can't forward ports over a ssh applet though06:22
DrBairbut better than nothing06:22
freelovethefish: windows aint booting with grub.......06:22
deFryskDr_Willis, dont we all :)06:22
thefishfreelove: maybe you can change the disk that your mobo boots to, change boot order in bios06:22
phiqtionDr_Willis: sure you did06:22
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hostixHey06:22
thefishfreelove: then grub is misconfigured06:23
Dr_Willisphiqtion,  yep.. and to be honest - it sort of sucks :P every game i try has some issues.06:23
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robzonhi all06:23
freelovethefish: ive tried everything....reinstalling grub zillion times but it doesnt work,.......06:23
naliothphiqtion: cedega -cvs06:23
Dkellycan anyone help a new linux user?  have some trouble figuring out the install procedures for the jpilot package.06:23
thefishfreelove: have you tried eating your own head?06:23
thefishthen you havent tried everything06:24
hostixim trying to config VMware an everything seems to be config'd right but when i try to start it i get "vmware is installed, but it has not been (correctly) configured06:24
hostix............"06:24
phiqtionnalioth: ?06:24
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thefishfreelove: if you like, you can put your grub.conf in pastebin and send a link here06:24
robzonhey, automounting stopped working.. anyone knows what could be wrong?06:24
robzon(i mean usb mass storage devices)06:24
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hostixwhat can be wrong i have used defualt setup an the kernel headers for my kernel06:25
ravi_Dr_Willis: i am not able to get the tar balls frm the given links in the forum i am trying to enable dri06:25
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MillenniumgroupHow do I enable DD5.1 in linux? vlc can't play DD5.1 movies I have to switch to stereo evry time..anyone got a good guide? Im using a simple creative 5.1 card06:25
wyawc2000Who can help me configure eclipse+myeclipse+tomcat??06:25
robzoni have dbus processes running...06:26
ravi_i am not able to get the tar balls frm the given links in the forum i am trying to enable dri06:26
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wyawc2000I have install eclipse,myeclipse,tomcat, but when i write a .jsp file,  I couldn't see the result..06:26
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robzonanyone at least knows how automounting works in ubuntu?06:27
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topylirobzon: via hotplug i guess06:28
fdrhello... please, could you tell me where am I supposed to file bugs? On launchpad or on bugzilla? Thank you!06:28
wyawc2000That i have start my tomcat, and test it is well, but it also couldn't work when i edit a jsp file....why?06:28
robzontopyli: do you know what is required? which daemons/processes? i think that installing kde3.5 could brake it... :/06:28
Madpilotfdr: launchpad, I think06:29
fdrMadpilot: I was wondering, because both sites are active...06:29
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ravi_i am not able to get the tar balls frm the given links in the forum i am trying to enable dri06:29
ravi_some one help me06:29
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wolkiok. i just called him again, we tried some things out... it seems like the ip he's getting is not the ip he usually has (but we're not 100% sure). We're on the same network, and i gave him wha'ts entered in broadcast on my machine, but we still get "network is unreachable" errors... and no packages sent/received, which it should - i guess - do if it actually tries to send stuff06:30
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topylirobzon: dunno, it's an init scipt. try "sudo /etc/init.d/hotplug restart" and see if it's broken or not :)06:30
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wolkioh, he just told me he got a weird error while booting up recently... are those messages logged for some days, and if they are, where? i'm kinda out of my depth here, the slightest idea would be very appreciated06:31
robzontopyli: eh, it's not a problem with hotplug :/06:31
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Shimonnhi06:32
JabberWokkyAnybody have any experience with getting Ubuntu installed on a system with an Adaptec 2610SA RAID card?06:32
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marvin_hi06:33
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topylirobzon: i haven't seen kde in 5 or 6 years, so i don't know how it works, or what it does to people's systems :(06:33
GorNj006:33
JabberWokkyAnybody have any experience with an Adaptec 2610SA RAID card at all?06:33
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marvin_helpme plz06:33
freelove!pastebin06:33
robzontopyli: ok.. thanks for help anyways.. I'll look through hotplug scripts, maybe KDE changed them in some way.. :/06:34
JabberWokkyrobzon: Missed your question when you came in, but have you tried #kubuntu?  (Just trying to help, sorry if that's useless advice)06:34
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robzonJabberWokky: no no, I'm back to gnome now :)06:34
freelovethefish: plz give me pastebin link......06:34
marvin_hello06:34
marvin_hello06:34
kenmasterhello06:35
robzonhello06:35
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marvin_need help06:35
einPaulehello06:35
marvin_in linux06:35
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JabberWokkyrobzon: Yes, but if you installed the KDE packages (which I'm not sure you did), they would know them in more depth over in the #kubuntu channel.  Just a thought. :)06:35
Oceansbluehello06:35
robzonJabberWokky: hmm yeah, I'll give it a try. thanks :)06:35
marvin_how install the messenger of hotmail in itsistem06:35
freelovethefish: plz tell me where i can post my grub conf??06:36
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hostixpastebin.com06:36
thefishfreelove: ^06:36
Seveasmarvin_, it's installed by default in applications -> internet instant messenging06:36
thefishfreelove: i need to go soon, but paste it and im sure someone will help06:36
kenmasterusa gaim06:37
marvin_ok06:37
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sklavwhats up guys / gals06:38
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freelovethefish: plzzzzzzzzzzzzz stay for 5 min only.......its imp:(06:38
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owner989any idea how i can prevent ubuntu from trying to mount a card reader built into a USB printer06:39
thefishfreelove: pastebin it then!06:39
freelovehere it is http://pastebin.com/45115106:39
kenmasteris una hp?06:40
Dr_Willisowner989,  that works? cool.06:40
Dr_Willis:P06:40
freelovethefish: i read somewhere that this happens bcoz my bios & linux are clashing....06:40
Dr_Willisowner989,  gnome has some settings as to what to auto-mount  for the user.06:40
owner989dr_willis i got the canon mp130 working under linux06:40
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callistohi06:40
Dr_Willisowner989,  but im not sure if you can set it for a SINGLE thing..its a all or nothing  I think06:40
callistohm..06:40
owner989the ip15000 driver works for the mp13006:40
owner989but06:40
freelovethefish: my bro reinstalled win98, i lost grub, reinstalled grub....since then windows wont boot...it hangs...06:41
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owner989ubuntu has scrolling errors in the console trying to mount a card reader built into the printer06:41
callistowhat's subject06:41
owner989you cant see them in the gui06:41
sklavhi06:41
callistohi06:41
owner989but if you press alt+f1 you can06:41
Dr_Willisowner989,  oh -  you could just edit the fstab and try to mount it manually and see what the deal is.06:42
freelovethefish: hda1 & hda5 are same physical drive......how can i change drive & jumpers?06:42
Dr_Willisowner989,  it may be mad theres no card in the slot.06:42
gi2k15Is there in a repository where I can find kernel 2.6.12 source?06:42
owner989this is a  problem in all linux distros06:42
thefishfreelove: no, its because its trying to boot to a disk/partition thats not there06:42
gi2k15Although Ubuntu uses it, it seems the official repositories just have 2.6.11 source06:42
owner989i think its because the linux kernel doesnt properly support that type of card reader06:42
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owner989canon card reader06:42
Bill^Gateshi everyone06:42
thefishfreelove: you cant on that, but you want linux in hda1 and win in hda5?06:42
Bill^Gatescan anyone help me?06:42
Dr_Willisfreelove,  change what? if they are the same drive.. what are you trying to do swap hda1 and hda5 ?06:42
gi2k15Bill^Gates, just ask06:43
callistowhat's problem06:43
callistoBill06:43
owner989the printer works fine now though, its just an annoyance06:43
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Bill^Gatesi am running the new ubuntu live cd, in a terminal when i do su it asks me for a password... what do i put in there?06:43
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owner989use your user password bill06:43
callistoright06:44
callistouser passwd06:44
sephadexhi06:44
pbransfordBill^Gates, su doesn't work. do sudo instead06:44
freeloveDr_Willis: exactly....coz i want win98 to install to c: not d:.......ive heard it automatically installs to c:06:44
callistoactivate root06:44
pbransfordBill^Gates, sudo -s    gives you what su does06:44
gi2k15Bill^Gates, use sudo and your user pass06:44
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callistosudo passwd root06:44
sephadexalguien espaol?06:44
callistoactivate root06:44
freeloveive hda & hdb.....win on hda1 linux on hdb106:45
Dr_Willisfreelove,  INSTALLING is going to be an issue.  if it was allready installed you could use the grub boot loader to 'swap' the partitions - that has NOTHING to do with Jumpers or the cbles however.06:45
freelovethefish: plz say what to do?06:45
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pbransford!tell sephadex ubuntu-es06:45
einPauleHello people, Ive got a bit of a problem... I want to play mp3s on AmaroK, yet it tells me that OSS is being used by another program... is it not possible to use skype and amarok at the same time?06:45
sephadexhola..tenog un problema..como no06:45
Dr_Willisfreelove,  actually if your hda5 is unallocated.. windows may format and install to it fine.  - but it may have issues booting it.06:45
freeloveDr_Willis: no no swapping in such wont be of help.....coz win98 is on hda106:45
owner989einpaule go into the amarok options06:46
sephadexno tengo /dev/dsp06:46
sklav!tell sklav mp306:46
pbransfordsephadex, habla espanol en #ubuntu-es    (me no hablo espanol, hablo ingles :) )06:46
owner989you can select the audio output06:46
freelovethefish: plz help what to do?06:46
owner989i reccommend alsa06:46
sephadexoks06:46
Dr_Willisfreelove,  so now we are back - to not knowing what you are trying to do.06:46
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sephadexthx06:46
thefishfreelove: paste your grub.conf into pastebin.com06:46
einPauleowner989: Can I select independantly from the system settings?06:46
sephadex#ubuntu-es06:47
owner989yes you can06:47
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djroupehi everybody06:47
owner989einpaule try this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4475306:47
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Bill^Gatespbransford: thanks for the help, it worked06:47
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freelovethefish: i DID! http://pastebin.com/45115106:47
Bill^Gatesif i issue the command dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=1M will it low-level-format the hdd?06:48
freeloveDr_Willis: i want to make windows boot anyhow....or my bro threatens me he will format my linux partitions.......06:48
owner989ubuntu should switch to alsa next release06:48
owner989and dump esd06:48
einPauleowner989: Ill try it, but ive been trying some guides...06:48
deFryskowner989, ubuntu uses alsa06:48
einPauleowner989: Ill tell you how it goes06:49
owner989not by default however06:49
djroupei have some king of pb. my webcam freeze my screen. its a microdia with this ID: 0c45:602c06:49
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deFryskowner989, gnome uses the deamon06:49
Dr_Willisfreelove,  so in summary - you have windows installed? and its where? and for some reaon your grub boot loader is not loading it?06:49
phiqtionnalioth: i download ZSNES from terminal, where does it install itself? /opt?06:49
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thefishfreelove: it boots ubuntu ok though?06:49
spolaBill^Gates, yeah but WHY ?06:49
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freeloveDr_Willis: win on hda1, ubuntu on hdb1, NO grub is loading and i CAN boot into ubuntu....but not windows....06:50
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naliothphiqtion: i have no clue. i do know there are snes emulators available in the repos06:50
chrisx1Any1 know if amsn is working in ubuntu yet?06:50
freelovethefish: only win98 doesnt boot.....06:50
owner989freelove does windows even show up in the grub menu06:50
phiqtionnalioth: what folder u think it might be06:50
Dr_Willisfreelove,  so you basicially need to just edit your grub config file to  boot windows.06:50
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La_PaRCahey kids06:50
naliothphiqtion: i have no idea. i dont game06:50
djroupeis someone could help me with my camera????06:51
freeloveyes windows shows up in grub06:51
phiqtionnalioth: where can i find out where zsnes is? is there a command that tells me?06:51
freeloveDr_Willis: how to do that?06:51
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thefishfreelove: and you say windows is on hda1? you are sure?06:51
freelovethefish: sure06:51
trappistphiqtion: `which zsnes` should tell you, if it's properly installed06:51
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naliothphiqtion: dpkg -l zsnes (or whatever the pkgname is)06:51
Bill^Gatesspola: the hdd is full of bad sectors06:51
trappist-L06:51
owner989freelove sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst06:51
freelovethefish: the problem is very similar to this but with ubuntu http://portal.suse.com/sdb/en/2004/05/fhassel_windows_not_booting91.html06:52
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thefishfreelove: and when you select windows 98/ME from the grub menu it just stays blank?06:52
owner989freelove can you view the windows drive in ubuntu?06:52
freeloveowner989: yes06:52
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freelovethefish: no....it all happens exactly this way http://portal.suse.com/sdb/en/2004/05/fhassel_windows_not_booting91.html06:52
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vblantonHey all ,I want to keep the same home folder with all my files from gentoo linux, but some of the hidden config files make it a little messy.  Should I just delete all the hidden folders and THEN install ubuntu? Will that work?06:53
owner989freelove you probably need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst06:53
owner989type sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst06:53
owner989add the partitions that you need to show06:53
freeloveowner989: done......what next?06:53
vblantonIf I keep th hidden files/folders with the config's then sometimes programs in a test-install of kubuntu I have act a little funky, and my Kmenu is not really functional and has fake entries...06:53
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owner989when you reboot it should show up in grub06:53
owner989assuming you did it correctly06:53
AbsenthWhat was the xwindows friendly sudo command again?06:54
freelovevblanton: yes that will work......but i think just deleting .kde should suffice..06:54
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AbsenthI know it's  g(something)sudo  or just gsudo?06:54
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vblantonfreelove: ok. thanks for double checking06:55
freeloveowner989: windows does show up in grub....what to do next?06:55
einPauleowner989: Ive followed the Guide and will reboot06:55
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einPauleor do I just have to restart x06:55
einPaule?06:55
TTiluswhat prog you woud recommend to use when burning data dvd-r discs06:55
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demeylo06:55
owner989not sure einpaul06:55
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einPauleok06:55
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einPaulesee ya06:55
freelove:(06:55
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Dr_WillisTTilus,  i tend to use k3b06:56
owner989freelove if it shows up in grub shouldnt selecting the windows partition boot windows?06:56
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owner989thats what it should do06:56
demeyany belgian peeps in here?06:56
Dr_WillisTTilus,  it just seems to work very well for my needs06:56
TTilusjust roasted couple of discs with k3b and had a weird prob06:56
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NiLzhi, I installed ms fonts, enabled bitmapped fonts but still all the websites look like shit, are there any other font packages I need to install?06:56
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TTilusdiscs work fine on the machine i burned them06:56
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freeloveowner989: it does not........this same exact thing happens http://portal.suse.com/sdb/en/2004/05/fhassel_windows_not_booting91.html06:56
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Absenthok....  for anyone who wanted to know (me) it's (gksudo command)06:56
Dr_WillisTTilus,  k3b is just a front end to the cdrecord and other tools.. same as most all the cd-burnin guis out.06:56
TTilusbut another machine (linux too) with equally old dvd drive doesnt seem to get discs to work06:57
CarinArri copy some code, it should be identical, but one works and one doesn't06:57
TTilusDr_Willis: yup, knew that06:57
CarinArrer wrong window06:57
chrisx1Any1 know if amsn is working in ubuntu yet?06:57
thefishfreelove: sorry, not enough time to have more of a look, have you thought of just installing ubuntu over it all, then using a VM like qemu or vmware?06:57
chrisx1any ideas of touchscreens?06:57
NiLzany1, please?06:57
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NiLzI installed ms fonts, enabled bitmapped fonts but still all the websites look like shit, are there any other font packages I need to install?06:58
TTilusdisc mounts but the 1+Gig files show as 11Meg or so06:58
owner989did you install suse linux 9.1 freelove?06:58
TTilusthey are mpg videos (tv recordings)06:58
freeloveowner989: no....im on ubtuntu06:58
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owner989but you get that same error06:58
TTilusthe files show well too , to the point they extend, the 8-11Meg06:58
owner989?06:58
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TTilusso on this another machine I only see a tiny bit from the start of the movie06:59
cyphaseDoes anyone have problems with their X server crashing when they install the nVidia driver?06:59
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cyphaseit runs for 15-25 minutes, then crashe06:59
cyphasecrashes*06:59
TTiluschrisx1: i have one on my psion  :)06:59
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chrisx1TTilus, i have an hitachi monitor07:00
TTilus(i frequently find myself tapping my monitor)07:00
chrisx1i have drivers07:00
chrisx1just really hard to install07:00
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Absenthcyphase,  on my 32-Bit Breezy install, I haven't had any problems with my 5900-Ultra.  Cyphase I have heard of people having a tough time with the nvidia-glx driver and the 6600 cards07:00
Absenthcyphase,  I haven't been brave enough to install the nvidia-glx on my 64bit breezy install.07:01
einPauleowner989: Youve got yourself a very happy Paul! Thanks07:01
owner989lol07:01
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owner989yes that guide helped me as well07:01
owner989otherwise i had to killall esd all the time07:01
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demeymmm07:02
TTilusI burned data DVD with couple of 1+Gb files.  It works fine on the machine it was burned.  Another Linux box having same make and age DVD drive shows only 8-11Mb files, otherwise things work.  Any suggestions what eats up the file tails?07:02
owner989freelove thats a strange problem, ive been reading that link you posted07:02
FlimFlamMangparted isn't resizing the ntfs partition on this laptop... any ideas?07:03
freeloveowner989: ya and had to happen wid me07:03
NiLzcan any1 tell me what font packages should I install pleasE?07:03
owner989it says it cant even be fixed by restoring the windows mbr with fixmbr..strange07:03
AgrajagFlimFlamMan: defrag it?07:03
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FlimFlamManAgrajag, ok07:04
Agrajagif there's data near the end of the disk it probably can't move it to resize the partition07:04
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demeyhey guys i am a noob and just starting with linux :) but now i have a  problem im trying to install teamspeak ( downloaded the filesand installed itt ) but i cant run it ( cant find itt anywhere ) could someone help me? thanxs07:05
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moccahHi there, I just wondered if i could rezise a reiserfs partition... it is a a single hardrive that is divided into two partitions one for / and one for /home ...07:05
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_AkirA_hello all07:06
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_AkirA_any admin here ? :)07:06
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madahello all07:06
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Seveas!tell _AkirA_ about anyone07:06
villerhi07:06
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madasoooo ... any laptop users in the chan?07:07
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Dr_Willismada,  yes :P07:07
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owner989freelove did you try enabling lba in the bios07:07
madaDr_Willis: awesome, mind if i pick your brain for a moment?07:07
owner989like it said on that link07:07
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demeynon whanne help me?07:07
freeloveowner989: yes...no effect07:07
Phoul|awaydemey, whats your problem?07:08
villerdoes every window manager have different icons? I mean are icons compatible between window managers?07:08
demeyhey guys i am a noob and just starting with linux :) but now i have a  problem im trying to install teamspeak ( downloaded the filesand installed itt ) but i cant run it ( cant find itt anywhere ) could someone help me? thanxs07:08
Dr_Willismada,  :P depends on what the issue is.07:08
Dr_Willisviller,  some times. :P but for the most part yes.07:08
Phoul|awaydemey, alt ft teamspeak07:08
Phoul|awayf2*07:08
_AkirA_(Seveas) please prv07:08
demeymmm07:08
madaDr_Willis: no issue, just general questions ... i am a long time debian user for desktop and server side but i was thinking about going to ubuntu for my laptop, just wondering about over all experience07:09
TTilusdemey: launch console and type teamspeak07:09
Phoul|awayTTilus, lol close to what i said07:09
Phoul|away"{07:09
Phoul|away:P07:09
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demeymmm07:09
demeythanxs07:09
Phoul|awayNo problem07:09
bkjholas07:09
bkjheys07:09
bkji'm new in here07:09
Seveashi bkj, welcome07:09
TTilusPhoul|away: i dont actually know what teamspeak is  :D07:10
bkjthnx07:10
Phoul|awayLol all i know is its not a teminal program07:10
Phoul|away:P07:10
chrisx1any ideas of touchscreens?07:10
bkjubuntu is pretty looking07:10
TTilusPhoul|away: just did a wild guess...07:10
Dr_Willismada,  5.10 worked very well for my compaq V2311 - but  thers alwyas little issues :P07:10
demeymmm07:10
demeydo i just take themap?07:10
Phoul|awaythemap?07:10
demeyteamspeak map07:11
Phoul|awaywhat the heck?07:11
Phoul|awaylol i dont use teamspeak i only knew how to start it :P07:11
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demeyim a noob ;-)07:11
TTilusPhoul|away: i did not assume it to be, most progs binary is the same name than package07:11
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villerDr_Willis: I thought I have to convert them all the time. It would be great if icons would be handled by X11 like cursors07:11
Phoul|awayTTilus, Ahh07:11
madaDr_Willis: i know all too well about "little issues", my main thing is that i love debian but it doesn't exactly have the "desktop focus" that ubuntu does, so i figured it might be a better candidate for a laptop ... also, did you notice any battery life loss when going to ubuntu?07:11
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Phoul|awayHmmm07:12
Phoul|away:P07:12
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Phoul|awayI like gnome07:12
Dr_Willisviller,  it depends. :P theres a trend now to using "SVG" icons which look MUCH better then just bitmaps07:12
Phoul|awayI tried ion307:12
moccahHi there, I just wondered if i could rezise a reiserfs partition... it is a a single hardrive that is divided into two partitions one for / and one for /home ...07:12
TTilusPhoul|away: so to be accurate teamspeak& if you want to get rid of term after launching the prog07:12
Phoul|awayI didnt understand07:12
Phoul|away><07:12
Phoul|awayTTilus, have you ever used ion3?07:12
TTilusPhoul|away: heard of it, never used07:12
Phoul|awayI find it annoying beyond belife!07:13
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Phoul|awayYou have to pretty much memorize EVERYTHING on your computor07:13
Phoul|awayWell thats not bad07:13
Phoul|awayBut no graphical things can be used07:13
Phoul|away>:(07:13
villerDr_Willis: better? I can't believe that. IMO svg is uglier and has less possibilities. Although you only have to make one image. That's good for the developer07:13
TTilusim a gnome/icewm-style of gui07:13
Phoul|awayyou like icewm?07:13
Dr_Willisviller,  the svg icon themes for kde look very nice..07:14
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Phoul|awayTTilus, do you have a screenshot of your icewm system?07:14
TTilusPhoul|away: like?  it does what i need.07:14
Phoul|awayi have wondered if it can look nice07:14
Dr_Willisviller,  gee. do  ya use 32x32 pixls icons.., or 64x64 ect.. thats the main issue ive seen with bitmaps.07:14
villerDr_Willis: I think they're just done good07:14
Madpilotviller: SVG is completely resizable, no pixelization like you get w/ enlarging bitmaps07:15
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Phoul|awayTTilus, any screenshots?07:15
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villerMadpilot: i know that, I'm an artist myself kinda07:15
TTilusPhoul|away: waite a sec07:15
Phoul|awaykk07:15
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Phoul|awayTTilus, anythin?07:18
TTilusPhoul|away: look priv07:18
Phoul|awayhuh?07:18
Phoul|awayi never got a pm07:18
TTilusPhoul|away: just got07:18
TTilus:D07:18
Phoul|awayNope07:19
Phoul|awayis your nick registered?07:19
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phoulthere now try07:19
demeyPhoul can whe go private?07:19
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phouluhh demey one moment07:19
demeyok07:19
phoulTTilus, pm it now07:19
phouldemey, shure pm me07:19
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korhalfman python is the best language ever07:20
korhalf:)07:20
demeyi offered you a chat07:20
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phoulNot dcc07:20
korhalfafter 15 minutes of reaeding the tut07:20
phoulthats not a pm07:20
demey this is the only thing i have07:20
demey:s07:20
korhalfi made a function that returns the hypotenuse07:20
phouldemey,07:20
korhalfdef hypotenuse(x,y):07:20
phoultype this /query phoul07:20
phoulAnd TTilus screenshot *please*07:20
korhalf     print math.sqrt(x**2+y**2)07:20
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demeyty07:21
phouldemey, is your nick registed?07:21
korhalfimagine writing this in C/C++, you have to specify data types07:21
korhalfinclude headers07:21
korhalftoo much work07:21
demeynope07:21
Bill^Gatesi issued the command dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=1M to low-level-format the hdd from the live cd.  It shows no indication of progress, except that in the beginning the HDD LED was lit. Now the LED is no longer on and there is no indication of progress.  Can anyone shed some light?07:21
lsuactiafnerwhere the does ubuntu store the data it collects from apt-get update? the new package lists ect?07:21
phouldemey, i wont get the pm inless you register its a server rule thingy07:21
phoulAnd TTilus screenshot pleasie07:21
demeymmm07:21
korhalflsuactiafner, /etc/apt/sources.list07:21
demeyok then07:21
korhalflsuactiafner, these are the pages it checks to update the repository07:22
phouldemey, you know how to register i hope (/ns register password)07:22
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korhalfwell the cache on your machien that is07:22
eheilNo.  Data where apt stores its packages by default live in /var/cache/apt.07:22
demeynow i am07:22
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ericmoritz\0is ubuntu every going to update firefox?07:23
Bill^Gatesanyone?07:23
soundrayBill^Gates, if I read your command correctly, it writes just one megabyte of zeros to the beginning of the disk.07:23
eheil /etc/apt/sources.list is where you configure apt sources.07:23
fantai compiled gtk+ with ./configure; make; make install and had no errors - how do i run it?07:23
Amaranthericmoritz\0: It's too large of a change since lots of apps build against firefox.07:23
soundrayBill^Gates, that should happen within a second...07:23
phoulTTilus, please answer07:23
Amaranthfanta: gtk is a library, you don't run it07:23
ericmoritz\0Amaranth: :/07:24
Amaranthfanta: and if you're using ubuntu it was installed by default07:24
Bill^Gatessoundray: what should the command be for the whole hdd?07:24
TTilusphoul: tried to mesg you couple of times07:24
TTilusphoul: dunno whats wrong07:24
phoulis your nick registered?07:24
ericmoritz\0all my extensions are breaking07:24
TTilusphoul: i dont know07:24
fantaok, what about QT ?07:24
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phoulregister it07:24
TTilusphoul: maybe not07:24
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phoul(/ns register password)07:24
soundrayBill^Gates, ...erm, sorry, I could have been wrong.07:24
phoulNext time you log in you do /ns identify password07:24
fantai compiled it too, but how do i run a compiled program?07:25
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soundrayBill^Gates, can you do a 'ps aux | grep dd' on another command line to see if dd is still running.07:25
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phoulTTilus, now try07:25
Bill^Gatesanyone know the command to low level format a whole hdd?07:25
lsuactiafnerwhere the does ubuntu store the data it collects from apt-get update? the new package lists ect?07:25
linuksofanta: I think you are way off, if you don't know what gtk+ is, why did you compile it from source?07:25
lsuactiafnerBill^Gates : maybe your bios will do it, my silicon image 3114 does it07:26
phoulTTilus, register the nick then pm me07:26
Bill^Gatessoundray: something must still be running, because the command prompt has not yet reset07:26
soundrayBill^Gates, do a 'ps aux | grep dd' please and report the result07:26
phoulPlease07:26
Dr_WillisBill^Gates,  ICK.  every time ive ever seen some one ask about low-level formatng.. they normally get a new hd soon afterwards07:26
Bill^Gateslsuactiafner: no, i already checked the bios07:26
TTilusphoul: just doing the "register the nick" part  :)07:26
fantai just wanted a program to build GUI apps07:26
eheilI alteady told you.  By drfault, the apt cache lives in /var/apt/cache.07:26
Bill^GatesDr_Willis: this hard drive was scanned with HDD Regenerator, it found over a gig of bad sectors07:27
eheilrather /var/cache/apt07:27
Dr_WillisBill^Gates,  :P  may be time to hit the store...07:27
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Bill^GatesDr_Willis: the hdd does not complete a format due to i/o errors07:27
soundrayBill^Gates, it's probably not worth wasting your time on this disk.07:28
Bill^GatesDr_Willis: i just want to llf the hdd, see if it doesnt PERHAPS help07:28
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Dr_WillisBill^Gates,  do you even want to risk it dieing tomorrow on ya :P07:28
Bill^Gatessoundray: it actually is, considered i am in sudan and no computers shops in hundreds of miles from me :(07:28
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Bill^GatesDr_Willis: well, yes.  seeing that no OS boots from it currently07:29
soundrayBill^Gates, oh right, I thought you lived near Seattle. :-)07:29
linuksofanta: gtk is part of the default install, if you want to create you own applications, get glade2.07:29
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Bill^Gatessoundray: im on a peace keeping mission in sudan07:30
lemurI'm tring to use vnc, but every gtk app segfaults07:30
fantaok thanks, linukso07:30
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linuksofanta: you can find it in synaptic or aptitude, it will bring along lots of dependencies...07:31
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soundrayBill^Gates, how big is that disk?07:31
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Bill^Gatessoundray: i have two laptops having the same problem, one has a 12.7gb and the other 40gb hdd's07:31
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Secreth`XSomeone know how to change the default C compiler? Because I keep getting this error: checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables07:32
soundrayBill^Gates, sounds like they collided...07:32
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Bill^Gatessoundray: yup07:32
Bill^Gatessoundray: any idea how to zero-fill/llf them?07:32
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moccahHi there, I just wondered if i could rezise a reiserfs partition... it is a a single hardrive that is divided into two partitions one for / and one for /home ...07:32
Bill^Gatessoundray: they both have toshiba hdd's, and toshiba is the only manufacturer that does not have hdd utilities for their hard drives07:33
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soundrayBill^Gates, this regenerator thingy, was it not able to partition some space for you in unaffected sectors?07:34
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CyberAngelHi guys! Can anyone help me on something?07:34
jbroomeask07:34
CyberAngelI need a program to capture AVI`s from my TV Tuner. In my previous distro (slamd64) I was using XdTV that it was able to capture into multiple formats (including mpeg2, mpeg4, xvid and many other). Now I have installed XdTV on kubuntu breezy but it can only capture as UnCompressed AVI!!!07:34
linuksoSecreth`X: you are shure that you have a C compiler installed (sudo aptitude install build-essential07:34
demeyany dutch guys in here07:34
demeyorr belgian?07:34
linuksowill get you all you need)07:34
Bill^Gatessoundray: no, it just scans a hdd for bad sectors, and attempts to recover them using magnetic alterations on the disk platter, leaving all data intact07:34
Secreth`Xlinukso, yes.. I have gcc installed07:34
Bill^Gatessoundray: had it scanning a month on the one drive, then got tired with it07:35
Bill^Gatessoundray: that's why my only option is to Low level format07:35
linuksoSecreth`X: ok. is it make or configure that fails?07:35
Secreth`Xconfigure07:35
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soundrayBill^Gates, was the disk partitioned when the problem first occurred?07:35
linuksoSecreth`X: ah, could you post a bit more of the error in pastebin?07:35
CyberAngelThe strange thing is that when I tried to compile from source I get some warnings like:07:36
CyberAngelchecking for libavcodec (ffmpeg) header files... yes07:36
CyberAngelchecking for avcodec_init in -lavcodec... no07:36
CyberAngelconfigure: WARNING: *** Could not find libavcodec (ffmpeg) libraries: feature is disabled ***07:36
CyberAngelThe same happens for the other codecs (xvid, divx etc) but I have already installed them.....07:36
Secreth`Xlinukso, thats the only error :/07:36
Bill^Gatessoundray: no, not one of them was partitioned07:36
slashx1896How can i find out if my webcam is supported w/ linux?07:36
Secreth`Xlinukso, i'll try that sudo aptitude install build-essential07:36
linuksoSecreth`X: is that the only output from configure?07:36
Secreth`Xlinukso, no.. but the rest are no errors.. they are all positive07:36
demeydoes one of you guys has teamspeak installed?07:36
linuksoSecreth`X: it might not help you, but most configure errors comes from missing header files.07:36
soundrayBill^Gates, I'll tell you what I would try.07:36
CyberAngeldemey, I have teamspeak installed07:37
Bill^Gatesokay?07:37
demeypm?07:37
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Secreth`Xlinukso, I'll try..07:37
linuksoSecreth`X: may I ask what you are compiling?07:37
unforcerhey could someone tell me why I cannot login there comes xserver-errors > /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: running: /usr/bin/X11/sessreg -a -w /var/log/wtmp - u /var/run/utmp -x "/var/lib/gdm/:0Xservers" -h "" -l ":0" "username"07:37
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Secreth`Xlinukso, Irssi atm.. but I tried it before and it didnt work then07:37
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soundrayBill^Gates, create multiple 2-Gig partitions and format them one-by-one with the dd command you were using.07:38
Secreth`Xlinukso, that aptitude worked! Thanks!07:38
MonsieurBonI just tried to compile a driver for my wlan card and got this error: http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/796 any idea someone?07:38
Bill^Gatessoundray: any use for doing that?07:38
slashx1896How can i find out if my webcam is supported w/ linux? anyone?07:38
soundrayBill^Gates, if the damage is limited to a region on the HD, you'll isolate the region that way.07:38
unforcerslashx1896: what is your webcam?07:38
eedgeEeeeek.07:38
linuksoSecreth`X: great!07:38
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soundrayBill^Gates, plus, you'll have the majority of the hd low-level-formatted.07:39
Secreth`Xlinukso, woot.. thanks!07:39
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slashx1896unforcer: i think its a logitech07:39
CyberAngeldemey, As I can see I can`t pm you cause I`m not registered....07:39
demeycyberangel07:39
Bill^Gatessoundray: what exactly does a llf do, does it fix bad sectors?07:39
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demeyow07:39
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demeyi have installed ts07:40
Secreth`Xlinukso, Is there a difference between apt-get and aptitude?07:40
soundrayBill^Gates, no.07:40
unforcerslashx1896: yep just use the search in ubuntu forums there are lots thread of those.....I think07:40
demeybut how do i run itt?07:40
CyberAngelin which folder did you installed it?07:40
eedgeI'm networked through a switch to another windows station... All internet is going through that station (and working) but when I do sudo mii-tool eth007:40
eedge I get eth0: 10 Mbit, half duplex, no link07:40
eedge. And if I double click the linux station from windows network neighborhood it times out (can't get to file shares)?07:40
demeyhome07:40
slashx1896unforcer: alrite, cause gnome meetings is saying no cam plugged in when there is07:40
soundrayBill^Gates, you wanted it llf'ed, I thought you knew why.07:40
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demeyim using gnome07:41
CyberAngelok go to your home and the to the folder that you installed TeamSpeak07:41
linuksoSecreth`X: aptitude will remove dependecies if you remove an application that you installed with aptitude.07:41
Bill^Gatessoundray: well that seems to be the way to go according to a lot of forums i looked at07:41
unforcerslashx1896: you need to install driver for you cam..07:41
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demeyand then?07:41
CyberAngelit has an executable file in there07:41
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Secreth`Xlinukso, ah ok.. thanks again07:41
kitschdanyone know any way to make transparency for kde apps work in gnome or other graphical environments? i really want transparency for yakuake :)07:41
sharrejis ther any way to forcr kill a nonresponding program under gnome07:41
CyberAngelthen ./TeamSpeak07:41
demeya file that says teamspeak and SH07:41
FlimFlamManis it possible to defrag an XP NTFS partition and move all the files toward the beginning of the drive?  the built-in defragger seems to defrag but doesn't consolidate it.07:41
slashx1896Will the normal cd that i had installed on windows work on linux?07:41
CyberAngelNormally it should run07:42
soundrayBill^Gates, I can imagine that there are situation where a llf helps, but not if you have actual bad sectors.07:42
demeyi klik on itt and klik run07:42
slashx1896o Alrite well il brb07:42
CyberAngelok I am just using the console :)07:42
demeymmm07:42
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CyberAngelIt runs perfectly for me07:43
soundrayBill^Gates, when you have bad sectors, you need a strategy that identifies and makes usable the remaining good sectors.07:43
demeyi press alt + f207:43
demeythen i search the map07:43
eedgeI'm networked through a switch to another windows station... All internet is going through that station (and working) but when I do sudo mii-tool eth007:43
demeyand select the run file07:43
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eedge I get eth0: 10 Mbit, half duplex, no link.07:43
demeybut itt doesnt do anything07:43
demeywhere schould itopen?07:43
CyberAngeldemey, I have installed as root in /opt/TeamSpeak2RC207:44
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CyberAngelthe I am pressing alt+f2 and I am typing /opt/TeamSpeak2RC2/TeamSpeak and it runs07:44
demeymmm07:44
CyberAngeljust that :)07:44
Bill^Gatessoundray: any idea what strategy to use?07:44
demeyow07:44
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soundrayBill^Gates, didn't I tell you a few minutes ago?07:44
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cozhello all07:45
CyberAngelnow if you want you can make a symbolic link in /bin so yuo can run it from averywhere07:45
demeyill do /home/TeamSpeak2RC2/TeamSpeak07:45
soundrayBill^Gates, create multiple partitions and find out which ones dd doesn't work on.07:45
Bill^Gatessoundray: sorry07:45
CyberAngeldemey, Yes07:45
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demeythen it gives an eror07:46
CyberAngelWhat error?07:46
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cozOK guys I am bored and lookiing for a new application to test one in graphics or some sort of communication any sugestions?07:46
demeynot able to view location 'file:///home/TeamSpeak2RC2/TeamSpeak%20/home/joris/TeamSpeak2RC207:46
demey'file:///home/TeamSpeak2RC2/TeamSpeak%20/home/joris/TeamSpeak2RC2/TeamSpeak'07:47
demeyi meant07:47
moccahHi there, I just wondered if i could rezise a reiserfs partition... it is a a single hardrive that is divided into two partitions one for / and one for /home ...07:47
CyberAngelrun the following: ~/TeamSpeak2RC2/TeamSpeak07:47
seth_kAmaranth, nice job with Automatix-NG stuff, now talk to robotgeek_away and work with what he's got too ;)07:48
soundraymoccah, install parted, parted-doc and read info parted07:48
demeynow something opens07:49
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CyberAngel:)07:49
Amaranthseth_k: I don't plan on actually doing anything, it was just a test.07:49
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demey#!/bin/sh07:49
demey#07:49
demey# This starup script will set the correct library path07:49
demey# and then startup the teamspeak binary.07:49
demey#07:49
demeyexport LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/joris/TeamSpeak2RC2:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH07:49
demey/home/joris/TeamSpeak2RC2/TeamSpeak.bin $*$07:49
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demeythats what opens :-/07:49
CyberAngel:(07:49
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seth_kAmaranth, I know. But robotgeek_away is actually making those changes in a version, hence why I said talk to him07:50
troozersafternoon chaps n' chappettes07:50
soundraydemey, please don't paste.07:50
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demeyok07:50
demeysrry soundray07:50
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soundrayubotu: tell demey about pastebin07:50
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Storkhelp, i killed my system tray! i run amarok and it says it's minimizing amarok to try, but it's not there07:50
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owner989does that happen after a reboot as well stork07:51
demeycyberangel and now?:-s07:51
troozersneed some help ... I have installed breezy and following a postfix install howto - and it says to install libsasl7 from the hoary repos... how do I tell ubuntu to do that?07:51
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DeterministStork, right click the bar, add notifications area, or just killall gnome-panel to restart the thing07:51
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soundraydemey, the bot is on holiday. Check out http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl please.07:51
owner989just install with synaptic troozers07:51
CyberAngelopen a console to try run it manually as I did07:51
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Lord_Maynothwhat would it take to allow linux/ubuntu to have a device manager with the ability to install, ugrade, remove drivers from devices?????????????????07:51
demeythat was manually07:51
rubemjoin #mysql07:51
demey...07:51
demeysoundray you dutch?07:51
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owner989technically linux doesnt use windows style drivers lord07:52
StorkDeterminist, thanks uberly07:52
Lord_Maynothyeah I know owner07:52
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Lord_Maynothbut what would it take to design a system like that07:52
Dr_WillisI think we need more ??'s :P07:52
troozersis that a gui tool owner989?  running in text mode only07:52
mipeWhen I Copy on flash disk, copy is completed but on my flashdisk is nothing???07:52
soundraydemey, almost. I'm German, I live in the UK, I guess that makes me Dutch on average :)07:52
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demeylol07:52
DeterministLord_Maynoth, such a thing does not exist, linux does not support bad drivers hence no need for user interaction in such a process, hence no need for GUI07:52
Deterministstonp mate07:52
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owner989maynoth what about device manager in system > administration menu07:52
demeyi need a dutch abuntu user07:52
Dr_WillisLord_Maynoth,  actually on the last box i had.. I dident need to install  any extra drivers at all.07:52
owner989that sounds like what you want07:52
demeyso i can speak dutch with him07:53
rubemhi teher07:53
soundraydemey, ask Seveas.07:53
rubemhow to configure the secret passphrase on phpmyadmin?07:53
jens2000hallo07:53
Lord_Maynothyeah but when you need to install a new driver should there not be an easy gui to do that from07:53
Amaranthrubem: afaik it's the mysql user info07:53
DeterministLord_Maynoth, sure, it's called synaptic07:53
owner989you can install stuff with synaptic07:53
demeyok07:53
Amaranthrubem: which defaults to root with no password, you should add a password and make a new user07:53
owner989and apt-get07:53
troozersis synaptic a gui tool?07:53
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owner989yes troozers07:53
Deterministtroozers, indeed it is07:54
CyberAngeldemey, check if that file is executable. For sure do a "chmod 755 ~/TeamSpeak2RC2/TeamSpeak"07:54
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troozersdamn, anyway to install from a previous repos without synaptic?07:54
Lord_Maynothso again... why would it be impossible to design a gui with a device manager that shows the version of the driver and offers the possibility to update your drivers07:54
CyberAngeland then "cd ~/TeamSpeak2RC2"07:54
Deterministtroozers, apt-get?07:54
Lord_Maynothwhat would it take07:54
CyberAngelthen "./TeamSpeak"07:54
soundrayBill^Gates, how are you getting on?07:54
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troozerswhat do i need to do to get it to install from the hoary repos instead of breezy?07:54
DeterministLord_Maynoth, again, do a search in synaptic for the name of your hardware under description, if it found anything... voila.07:54
owner989maynoth driver support is updated with new kernel versions in linux07:55
owner989mostly07:55
sharrejhey guys, is there a keyboard command to force kill a program in gnome07:55
owner989except for printers and some other stuff07:55
Deterministtroozers, add the hoary repos and do an update, but why on earth would you want to do that?07:55
soundraysharrej, yes. man kill07:55
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phiqtionnalioth: give some Wine info. is there a wiki?07:55
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demeycyberangel another error07:55
CyberAngelwhat error now?07:55
troozersfollowing http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/#install_distro, and says it had probs with breezy versions of libsasl707:55
Lord_Maynothshouldn't there be an easier way than synaptic... somthing of a dedicated gui applet for dealing with hardware and drivers etc07:55
demeynot able to vieuw  file://cd ~/TeamSpeak2RC207:56
topylisharrej: open terminal, do killall <foo>. or use xkill and click the window owned by that process07:56
Deterministtroozers, installing what application?07:56
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troozersi am doing a postfix+mysql+TLS installation07:56
CyberAngelwhere are you writing all these commands?07:56
demeyalt + f207:56
phiqtioncan anyone give me a link to learn how to install wine07:56
troozershaving the prob with the SASL part07:57
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topyliwhy doesn't the nautilus send-to dialog have a blietooth option? the gnome-bluetooth web site advertises such a function07:57
CyberAngel.....maybe that`s the problem....07:57
DeterministLord_Maynoth, yes, i suppose, given enough time and better cooperation from hardware makers, i suppose we'll have that too and together with it the sucky drivers avrage hardware makers create instead of the superb (in some cases) drivers created using reverse engineering07:57
CyberAngel:)07:57
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CyberAngelenter alt+f207:57
CyberAngelthen "xterm" and press enter07:57
demeyopen something07:57
CyberAngeland then enter all of the above commands in the console07:57
demeya blak screen07:58
demeyall?$07:58
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Deterministtroozers, i dont see how installing it from hoary would help tho. give it a shot.07:58
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CyberAngelperfectly :)07:58
rubem#phpmyadmin07:58
demeyfrom start?07:58
troozersta07:58
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sharrejThank You, in kde it's cntrl alt esc07:58
CyberAngelfrom chmod and after..07:58
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Deterministthis channel is flying too fast before my eyes today :/07:58
Lord_Maynothawesome.... when linux has a device manager, with the ability to update delete install new drivers etc. and also autopackage matures more linux will actually be a viable replacement for the adverage windows user07:59
Deterministor... i may be tired.07:59
Agiofwsto start sshd in ubuntu  i do  --->  /etc/init.d/sshd  start   <--- ?07:59
djk_where's ubotu?07:59
heftyhi07:59
phiqtioncan anyone give me a link to learn how to install wine07:59
MillenniumgroupHow do I enable DD5.1 in linux? vlc can't play DD5.1 movies I have to switch to stereo evry time..anyone got a good guide? Im using a simple creative 5.1 card07:59
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donzais there any howto to change breezy to use oss instead of alsa?07:59
djk_phiqtion: use the repos?07:59
Agiofwsto start sshd in ubuntu  i do  --->  /etc/init.d/sshd  start   ?07:59
owner989lord maynoth, its not as if windows device manager updates drivers for you07:59
owner989well it does07:59
donzaalsa is producing some static noice in to my mp3s07:59
cyphaseomg07:59
owner989but 90% of the time it doesnt update them07:59
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demeychmod?08:00
ClayG* Starting rpc mountd...                                                                                             [fail] 08:00
DeterministLord_Maynoth, i suppose, yes. the problem right now isnt the disability to create such a gui, but rather in the deeper problem that hardware isnt erally being supported on linux yet, on a large scale. it's the egg and the chicken problem. hardware makers wont pay attention to linux as long as there isnt a large user base and a large user base usually demands good hardware support.08:00
demeyfrom first command thats start with cd?08:00
Agiofwsto start sshd in ubuntu  i do  --->  /etc/init.d/sshd  start   ?08:00
owner989but i will say that its easier to install video card drivers in windows08:00
Determinists/disability/inability08:00
owner989compared to linux08:00
Deterministyes, i'll agree08:00
demeycyberangel08:00
Millenniumgroupowner989 and it's easier to kill yourself in piss poor windows08:00
demeythanxs08:00
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CyberAngellet`s go from the start. You are in a console now right?08:00
Agrajagowner989: what's so hard about apt-get install nvidia-glx?08:01
demeyyes08:01
CyberAngelvery nice08:01
owner989for newbies agrajag08:01
CyberAngelenter "cd ~/TeamSpeak2RC2"08:01
Agiofwsto start sshd in ubuntu  i do  --->  /etc/init.d/sshd  start   ?08:01
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DeterministMillenniumgroup, all in all, i do have to admit that windows handles hardware better. it's the quality of the drivers written for that platform that really sucks. there are other (many) problems with windows, but drivers support and handling isnt one of them.08:01
CyberAngelthen enter "chmod 755 TeamSpeak"08:01
Agrajagowner989: again, what so difficult about it? You run that, it installs the drivers08:01
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soundrayDeterminist, Lord_Maynoth: if after all those years, Linux was nothing more than a Windows replacement, I wouldn't be here.08:01
Lord_Maynothwell would it not be great if ubuntu lead the way... and built in a device manager with the ability to update and install 3rd party driver08:01
CyberAngelAnd finally enter "./TeamSpeak"08:01
owner989lol agrajag08:02
shinuhey, i got this error when i try to run rtorrent which i just compiled: rtorrent: error while loading shared libraries: libtorrent.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory08:02
owner989i never said that was hard08:02
Millenniumgroupowner989, well then don't use linux or find another distro...or you learn :)08:02
shinuhow can i solve it?08:02
owner989milleniumgroup i was responding to maynoth08:02
wwallace_lapowner989: try kanotix08:02
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owner989ive tried kanotix wwalace08:02
phiqtioncan anyone give me a link to learn how to install wine08:02
Deterministsoundray, i'm not suggesting that it is. i'm merely saying that to address a larger crowd, it has to achieve certain things windows has in the past, not that it is to be compared with it.08:02
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demeyffs08:02
Lord_Maynothwell like it or not.... the windows idiots (like me) are not going to switch until we have some basic functionalities provided by both windows and MacOSX08:02
Millenniumgroupdeterminist.. sorry I don't agree... one of the major faults with windows is hardware management, yes im aware 99% of evry dev supports windows..but it took me about 3 seconds to find my 2nd NIC in linux.. ws couldn't even detect it..08:02
demeyi cant get the08:02
wwallace_lapowner989: did you like it?08:02
MillenniumgroupWindows = drivers -reboot - drivers - reboot08:03
owner989wwalace its a good distro08:03
DrBairshinu:  seems like you need the libtorrent package08:03
wwallace_lapit is08:03
djk_phiqtion: how about winehq.com ?08:03
ubun-newbiei got two nics eth0 and eth1 how do  i remove eth008:03
owner989but i wouldnt use it until they release a final version08:03
demey~ in it :(08:03
shinuDrBair: i just compiled that too08:03
djk_phiqtion: or use apt to install it08:03
owner989it is RC right now08:03
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Lord_Maynothbasic functionalities being .exe type install system like autopackage is bringing to linux and a device manager with the ability to update and remove/install new drivers08:03
shinuDrBair: maybe rtorrent is looking in the wrong dirs or something?08:03
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CyberAngelthe ~ is your home directory08:03
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DeterministMillenniumgroup, i havent bumped into that all too often, altho i will admit to have ran into such problems in the past. either way, i'm using ubuntu now for obvious reasons, still doesnt mean windows sucks all over, it has afew good things.08:03
DrBairshinu: did you install libtorrent?08:03
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owner989wwalace_lap i think ubuntu is better for most people than kanotix08:04
Millenniumgroupubunu-newbie system -administartion - networking08:04
CyberAngelit has the same result as if you enter "cd /home/<YOUR USERNAME HERE>/TeamSpeak2RC2"08:04
Secreth`XIs there a program for turning .AVI's into .MPEG's?08:04
phiqtiondjk_: wine tools first or wine?08:04
demeyso i only need to type /teamspeak....08:04
DrBairshinu: its probably expecting it in /usr/lib08:04
shinuDrBair: i compiled it08:04
rubemanyone know a good php ide for ubuntu?08:04
owner989because kanotix uses debian unstable and its messed up right now08:04
djk_phiqtion: install both.08:04
phiqtiondjk_: which one first08:04
shinuDrBair: my files seem to be in /usr/local/lib08:04
soundrayDeterminist, for Linux it would be better to grow the community of tech-savvy users that find it attractive. Competing for a mass audience will only dumb it down.08:04
djk_phiqtion: whatever you want.08:04
MillenniumgroupDeterminist, i've used ms-dos since 1990.. and I can't see anything good about windows since I switched to linux about to 2months ago... remmeber they are charging YOU for a system that doesn't work very well..08:05
CyberAngelyou need to go to the folder that you installed teamspeak and all you need is to type "./TeamSpeak"08:05
Lord_Maynothanyone know if dapper drake will autodetect your windows paritions yet or not (without having to download a script)08:05
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DrBairshinu: is /usr/local/lib in your $PATH?08:05
owner989milleniumgroup except games08:05
owner989lol08:05
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CyberAngeldemey, Not /TeamSpeak but ./TeamSpeak08:05
owner989lord maynoth i would use breezy if i were you08:05
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Millenniumgrouplol ya, gaming in linux blows and determinst I do get your point, but plz remember there's a LOT more 3rd parties who supports hardware in ms, since ws is more mainstreamed08:05
CyberAngelyou need the dot before the slash08:05
topylii don't think /usr/local/lib is in anybody's path :)08:05
Deterministsoundray, that... is the big debate then, isnt it? for linux to be what it can be it needs better cooperation from hardware makers and other players in the market, without it turning even slighty mainstream, that just wont happen.08:05
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shinuDrBair: nope, how can i add it?08:06
DeterministMillenniumgroup, yes, i agree :)08:06
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NecrocideUbuntu for the win!08:06
owner989linux just needs more driver support from manufacturers08:06
demeyit says its running 0.o08:06
owner989otherwise its perfect08:06
owner989ubuntu is a step in the right direction08:07
gnomefreakkanotix is live cd :(08:07
gnomefreakand not in english :(08:07
owner989gnome it can be installed from live cd08:07
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owner989and it is in english08:07
demeymmm08:07
owner989you downloaded wrong lang version08:07
Lord_Maynothlinux needs a device manager  so companies can actually write drivers one time instead of 200 for each distro08:07
Earthpigtopyli: it's not even in the default /etc/ld.so.conf :)08:07
Lord_Maynothno company is going to do that08:07
gnomefreakowner every page google brought up is german :(08:07
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demeycyberangel it says its running and iff itt aint i need to delete some file08:08
ubun-newbiei got two nics eth0 and eth1 how do  i remove eth008:08
owner989lord_maynoth they just need to release the source code08:08
Lord_Maynothand no company is going to release the hardware specs due to competition08:08
Lord_Maynothright08:08
xslfLord_Maynoth: And leave Linux-ppc users in the dark? no thanks08:08
Lord_Maynoththats suicide08:08
reborthello, can anyone offer help with bug http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16479 Z08:08
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MadpilotLord_Maynoth: companies need to release specs, so people can write drivers for them...08:08
soundrayDeterminist, if Linux turns mainstream to get hardware vendors on board, what we'll get is more of the kind of mess we have with ati and nvidia right now.08:08
CyberAngelok delete the file that it says and then rerun it08:08
owner989gnomefreak, why do you want to use kanotix?08:08
demeyk08:08
owner989dont you like ubuntu08:08
Lord_Maynothcompanies release specs, whats going to happen?  the competition will copy them08:08
phiqtiondjk_: installed both, nothing came up in the menu. what now?08:08
ubun-newbiei got two nics eth0 and eth1 how do  i remove eth008:08
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rebortwhats the problem demey ?08:09
gnomefreakowner989,  i was just looking at it08:09
djk_phiqtion: type winetools in a terminal..08:09
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djk_phiqtion: and set it up..08:09
MadpilotLord_Maynoth: by the time something is released to the public, the "next big thing" is being developed - releasing specs probably doesn't matter much...08:09
Lord_Maynothjust like handing it out on a platter here come steal all my hard work08:09
Secreth`XIs there a program for turning .AVI's into .MPEG's?08:09
demeyinstalling TS rebort08:09
Lord_Maynothi disagree and obviously the big corps do also08:09
xslfLord_Maynoth: So the competition is always one step behind, while the companies don't have to create drivers non-X86 linux versions08:09
DrBairshinu: export PATH="/usr/local/lib:${PATH}"08:09
djk_Secreth`X: transcode, mencoder..08:09
Lord_Maynothotherwise they would release all their design documents08:09
soundrayDeterminist, if hw vendors only realized how little they have to lose from opening up their specs, we'd have an easier life with hardware support.08:09
MadpilotLord_Maynoth: HP supports Linux w/ their specs, and it works for them...08:10
Secreth`Xdjk_, are these in apt?08:10
topyliLord_Maynoth: the story of ibm and the success story of personal computing08:10
Lord_Maynothwell hardware is never going open source08:10
topyliLord_Maynoth: open specs08:10
djk_Secreth`X: yes.08:10
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Lord_Maynothits never going to happen08:10
Secreth`Xdjk_, thanks08:10
Lord_Maynothunless we get an open platform08:10
Lord_Maynothin computing08:10
Lord_Maynothyou guys keep me posted on that...08:10
Lord_Maynoth:P08:10
MadpilotLord_Maynoth: take a look at the printer page in the wiki, there are about three times as many HP printers there as anythign other company - because HP supports Linux...08:10
rebortdemey: TS = teamspeak?08:10
owner989which printer are you having trouble with maynoth08:11
DrBairsome companies are nice about specs08:11
demeyyeah rebort08:11
Lord_Maynothnothing about printers08:11
Lord_Maynothjust an observation08:11
vbgunzits official... Firefox 1.5 is out (for a while)... whats the news!08:11
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vbgunz!firefox08:11
owner989im using it08:11
owner989vbgunz08:11
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Lord_Maynothwindows morons like me want functionality like windows xp and MacOS X08:11
Lord_Maynotha device manager08:11
topyliewww08:11
vbgunzowner989: didn't download it through apt-get huh?08:12
Lord_Maynothand .exe install type install method like autopackage08:12
owner989no08:12
demeycyberangel : i cant find the file 0.o08:12
soundrayLord_Maynoth, so Linux people should jump to cater to your needs?08:12
owner989i can give you the install link08:12
Lord_Maynothyup08:12
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vbgunzowner989: I'll check it out!08:12
Lord_Maynothif thats your goal to get us to switch08:12
Lord_Maynothif not then don't bother08:12
topyliLord_Maynoth: you prefer unmaintainable systems? ;-)08:12
soundrayLord_Maynoth, sorry, we got other priorities.08:12
MadpilotLord_Maynoth: Synaptic is easier than any Windows install system going...08:12
owner989https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion vbgunz08:12
MasterTsunamiok so then don't switch :)08:12
rebortdemey: paste the errors you're getting at pastebin08:12
amparo_pzzisomeone uses cdrdao??08:12
Lord_MaynothBWHAHAHAHAHA08:12
decklinLord_Maynoth, perhaps you should go join the current thread on lkml.08:12
vbgunzowner989: thanks bro!08:12
Secreth`XI agree with Madpilot08:12
owner989np08:13
Lord_Maynothhang brb08:13
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MillenniumgroupDeterminsist, sorry bud, sometimes I just get carried away about windows lol08:13
MasterTsunamiby the way I have a nice webpage you should see...08:13
demeymmm08:13
soundrayJust another troll. It's sad.08:13
demeyagain? :-s08:13
CyberAngelrebort, where is the pastebin?08:13
MasterTsunamiyou are using internet explorer right?  :D08:13
nasshello all,08:13
Lord_Maynothhave to wipe my eyes on that one... apt-get is easier than downloading an exe...   oh the tears08:13
djk_CyberAngel: pastebin.com ?08:13
CyberAngelIt`s my first time on this channel :)08:13
xslfLord_Maynoth: You keep assuming that Linux only runs on PC's08:13
rebortdemey: oh just link me then08:13
rebort!pastebin08:13
CyberAngelI didn`t knew it :)08:13
ubun-newbiei got two nics eth0 and eth1 how do  i remove eth008:13
demeyrebort i postedem in this channel08:13
owner989lord maynoth, installing drivers in windows isnt always as easy as one click08:13
nassjust wanted to say that the ATI latest driver how-to on the Ubuntu forum really helped me !08:13
Madpilotrebort: no bot right now08:13
owner989speaking from experience08:13
rebortagh08:13
djk_Madpilot: why not?08:14
rebort Use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl for pasting08:14
decklinLord_Maynoth: seriously. i think they would appreciate your insight.08:14
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Madpilotdjk_: not sure08:14
demeymmm08:14
djk_Madpilot: :(08:14
rebortdemey: i wasn't here when you did08:14
Lord_Maynothwanna paste a link08:14
demeyim getting a bit annoyed08:14
owner989gnomefreak this is where the newest kanotix is http://debian.tu-bs.de/project/kanotix/preview/08:14
demeymmm08:14
Lord_Maynothdecklin08:14
gnomefreakty owner08:14
owner989np08:14
decklinhttp://www.uwsg.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0512.0/0972.html08:14
demeyim getting a bit annoyed08:14
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demeynot  you guys08:14
demeyat *08:14
rebortdemey: just paste the link here again08:14
demeymmm08:15
demeywhat link?08:15
versipolisubun-newbie: maybe sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces08:15
demeymah errors aint on the web dude :s08:15
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rebortdemey: go to pastebin.ubuntulinux.bl, paste your problem, it will give you a link to paste here08:15
rebortdemey: that's better than pasting your whole error in the crowded channel08:15
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DeterministMillenniumgroup, sorry, i'm at work , had to take a phone call :)08:16
zetaanyone know how to  get a card reader working?08:16
demeykk08:16
NecrocideCan I just increase my swap by increasing the size of the partition?08:16
DeterministMillenniumgroup, and it's quite understandable, i'm quite passionate about it as well.08:16
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owner989whats so hard about typing ./executable.bin lord_maynoth08:16
owner989same thing as windows08:16
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mcvideosalve a tutti08:16
Lord_Maynothautopackage is much better08:16
Lord_Maynothbeats being tied to a central repo08:17
demeyi think linux is a bit to hard for me :-/08:17
poningruwho is a tutti?08:17
poningrudemey: you on a mac?08:17
owner989whats your issue demey08:17
demeyinstalling :)08:17
TecnoVM64linux is just something you have to get used to :>08:17
mcvideoce qualcuno che parla la lingua italiana???????08:17
chrisx1Any1 know if amsn is working in ubuntu yet?08:17
MillenniumgroupDeterminist :)08:17
demeylol08:17
demeychrisxl08:17
poningruchrisx1: amsn?08:17
demeyyou dont need to instal that08:17
Lord_Maynothin 3 years autopackage will be able to resolve dependencies via apt-get etc... and programs will be able to be unistalled via the native package manager08:18
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rebortdemey: good luck i have a test to take now08:18
Secreth`Xdemey nothing is to hard. you just need to learn harder..08:18
Lord_Maynothso it will become the defacto linux installer08:18
demeychrisxl: go to applications on the upper site go to inet and klik on08:18
DrBairzeta: some card readers are a PITA08:18
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zetaPITA?08:18
poningrudemey: whats the problem you are having?08:18
demeychrisxl : then take Gaim08:18
poningrupain in the a**08:18
DeterministPain In The Ass08:18
owner989demey just use synaptic08:18
owner989thats easy to use08:18
zetaso no luck?08:18
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demeysynaptic?08:19
jupphow can i use php5 with apache? I installed apache and php508:19
Lord_Maynothanyone know if dapper will autodetect windows partitions08:19
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Lord_Maynoth?08:19
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DrBairzeta: has to do with them not announcing themselves when a card is inserted08:19
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djk_Lord_Maynoth: hoary already did.. warty probably too..08:19
DrBairzeta: I'll dig up the guide on it08:19
chrisx1anyone know a version of msn messenger with dp's For ubuntu08:19
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sorush20anyone here know about a good accounting software package?08:19
sorush20!accounting08:19
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poningruchrisx1: dp?08:19
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topylichrisx1: what is a dp08:19
EarthpigAlready done home. :)08:19
sorush20!account08:19
Earthpigoops08:19
ubun-newbiesudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces08:20
ubun-newbie** (gedit:7981): CRITICAL **: gedit_mdi_set_state: assertion `GEDIT_IS_MDI (mdi)' failed08:20
Madpilotsorush20: gnucash?08:20
poningrudont paste in here please08:20
owner989lord maynoth whats so hard about mounting an NTFS partition?08:20
chrisx1Display Picture08:20
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Lord_Maynothno... it didn't I still had to download a script to detect my windows partitions08:20
versipolisLord_Maynoth: u mean autodetect or mount so average user can actually use it08:20
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owner989lord_maynoth http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs08:20
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phiqtiondjk_: where can i see the software wine installed? the base system08:20
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TaZzZchris; gaim for msnmessenger on ubuntu08:20
poningruchrisx1: well I know kopete does08:20
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jeed890i need help!08:20
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demeymmm08:20
chrisx1is that for gnome?08:20
Lord_Maynothmissing the point.... the process should have been completely automatic08:20
poningruchrisx1: gaim does not have video though08:20
Seveasponingru, not yet08:21
Lord_MaynothI am asking if it will be so in dapper08:21
demeyguys im taking itt to a channel in my own languaga08:21
ubun-newbie** (gedit:7981): CRITICAL **: gedit_mdi_set_state: assertion `GEDIT_IS_MDI (mdi)' failed  how to fix this problem08:21
Lord_Maynothdrak08:21
Seveasgaim 2 is going to rock08:21
TecnoVM64chrisx1, kopete does, actually, it's for kde, but will work without any problem in gnome08:21
demeythanxs for the help08:21
Lord_Maynothdrake08:21
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devintCan anybody tell me how I can import my font and dll's from my windows installation into Wine?08:21
TaZzZchrix1:yes it is08:21
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poningruchrisx1: doh sorry that kopete is not in ubuntu yet08:21
chrisx1I Cant See Display Picture on it:S08:21
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jeed890CAN ANYBODY HELP ME WITH A BOOT UP PROBLEM?08:21
topyliphiqtion: you don't care where it is. the executable should be /usr/bin/wine08:21
shinuDrBair: does that command add that to $PATH for good? or is it just temporary?08:21
poningruSeveas: any idea when that will be in?08:21
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mwejeed890: cut the caps08:21
topylijeed890: you're hurting my eyes08:21
chrisx1poningru, I Cant See Display Picture on it:S08:21
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djk_Seveas: where's ubotu?08:21
Seveasjeed890, please drop the caps and simply state your problem08:21
gnomefreakgaim2 is dev stage yet?08:21
poningrujeed890: calm down dude whats the problem?08:21
Seveasponingru, -ENOCLUE08:21
ThunderguyI just got these Ubuntu Cd's 5.10 for the PC, the 5 that I ordered, but I have a problem, they are all scratched up on the disc's surface, not that it is so bad, but I can almost garuntee by looking at it that information on the discs is damaged, anyone know a good way to remove scratches and repair disc surfaces?08:21
Seveasdjk_, -ENOCLUE either :)08:22
DrBairshinu: thats for good08:22
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djk_phiqtion: type locate wine in a terminal ..not sure where it's installed to08:22
topylidamn. nautilus-sendto still doesn't offer to send files via bluetooth :(08:22
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versipolisThunderguy: toothpaste? :)08:22
owner989thunder theres some liquid you can get08:22
shinuDrBair: ok thanks a lot08:22
owner989that supposedly removes scratches08:22
Lord_MaynothAnyone here know if Dapper drake will autodetect and MOUNT windows partitions without a script?????08:22
Thunderguyversipolist: Are you serious?08:22
Seveastopyli, gnome-bluetooth from breezy sucks08:22
zetaDrBair is the guide in the wiki?08:22
poningruchrisx1: whats a display picture? is it the picture through video camera? or the one they choose?08:22
jeed890ok my problem is when i start up pc grub boot loader starts i can get into xp but when i try to boot up ubuntu it comes up with loads of code i dont understand08:22
Seveastopyli, grab my dapper backports :)08:22
owner989maynoth if you looked at the link i posted, you could have ubuntu mount the partition correctly on every boot08:23
topyliSeveas: i just backported dapper gnome-bluetooth, but no worky08:23
chrisx1poningru, one they choose some peoples i can see but some others i can08:23
ubun-newbie** (gedit:7981): CRITICAL **: gedit_mdi_set_state: assertion `GEDIT_IS_MDI (mdi)' failed  how to fix this problem08:23
ProfQkii made an apt-get upgrade this morning and till that time suspend to disk doesn't work correct08:23
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poningruchrisx1: hmm not sure what the problem is08:23
topyliSeveas: should i backport nautlus-sendto as well?08:23
DrBairzeta: nope, its at http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html in the "Additional notes..."  header08:23
Seveastopyli, no idea, I never tried that function :)08:23
Dasnipa`Lord_Maynoth, why would you want it to detect and mount ntfs automatically, when you can just edit the file and do it yourself08:23
Lord_Maynoththats great owner except you are ignoring the question....   I just asked if dapper would do it automatically... your responce is to sownload a script08:23
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poningrujeed890: did you try waiting till all that code is done?08:23
owner989its not a script08:23
owner989its just a command08:23
DrBairzeta: if you read through it, its not too bad. this was my first undertaking as a linux noobie08:23
chrisx1poningru, is there a newer version than v1.5.008:24
Lord_Maynothok then manually edit the fstab08:24
Lord_Maynothor whatever08:24
topyliSeveas: nautilus-sendto is not newer in dapper anyway08:24
chrisx1nm08:24
chrisx1goin to there chan08:24
zetaok will try08:24
jeed890it comes up with system panic (next line) system trying to kill init!08:24
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jkiHi08:24
Lord_Maynothwindows people hate the CLI... and it still is irrelivent to the question... but thanks anyway08:24
jkiAny ideas about why gnome-settings-daemon is only started for the first one of simultaneous Gnome sessions by same user? If i killall gnome-settings-daemon, bonobo-activation-server starts it in each Gnome session.08:24
zetaDrBair any way to get floppy disks to auto mount08:24
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owner989i dont know maynoth, but ubuntu didnt correctly mount my ntfs partition when i first installed it08:24
poningruchrisx1: no thats the latest08:24
zetaDrBair they mount when i right click and click mount.....08:24
owner989but its not hard to edit fstab08:24
Dasnipa`the question is whats the big deal about adding a line to fstab to do it... someone might not want to mount an ntfs partition automatically08:24
ThunderguyHey, do you think 'eyeglass lensecleaner' will work on cd's?08:25
Lord_Maynothowner nothing is really hard with ubuntu08:25
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Lord_Maynothits just annoying08:25
ProfQkiwho can help me with hibernate problem?08:25
chrisx1poningru, ok08:25
Lord_Maynothit took me over 3 weeks to get it the way I liked it08:25
poningruDasnipa`: whats the prob?08:25
Lord_Maynoththats insane... and no windows person is going to deal with that08:25
Dasnipa`poningru, nothing im commenting on Lord_Maynoth's question08:25
poningruoh08:25
gnomefreakLord_Maynoth,  apt-get upgrade is hard for people that never used it before08:25
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poningruProfQki: whats wrong?08:25
Lord_Maynothlol08:26
owner989maynoth, removing spyware from windows computer take a while too08:26
poningruwhat are we arguing about?08:26
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owner989ive seen so many comps wrecked with spyware08:26
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Lord_Maynothyup.... still dodging the question08:26
Lord_Maynoth:P08:26
Dasnipa`why did it take 3 months? i had no clue what i was doing at first and it took a google searcha nd the first link had the line i needed to add my ntfs to fstab and it worked perfectly08:26
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owner989but its a valid point08:26
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Biscuitian_Warhe!ati08:26
Lord_MaynothDasnipa there were tons of little annoyances I had to fix08:26
poningruguys does gedit have autocomplition for c++?08:27
ProfQkiponingru: after apt-get upgrade this morning when i resume after hibernation and i type the password it falls back to suspend08:27
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Lord_Maynothbeing able to play mp3s divx08:27
topylianybody know a better bluetooth gui interface than gnome-bluetooth? (i don't want to install half of kde either)08:27
Lord_Maynothhome networking08:27
Seveasponingru, no08:27
Lord_Maynothprinter drivers08:27
zetaDrBair this is not a usb card reader08:27
Lord_Maynothmodem drivers08:27
ubun-newbie** (gedit:7981): CRITICAL **: gedit_mdi_set_state: assertion `GEDIT_IS_MDI (mdi)' failed  how to fix this problem08:27
ProfQkiponingru: till the upgrade it worked well08:27
gnomefreak:x08:27
zetaDrBair does that matter?08:27
Lord_Maynothntfs partitions08:27
Seveasubun-newbie: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.08:27
Lord_Maynothnone of it was hard to do08:27
owner989i can play mp3s divx lord_maynoth08:27
Lord_Maynothjust time consuming to google08:27
owner989you just need the codecs08:27
poningruSeveas: do you know of a good text editor that does?08:27
Lord_Maynothyeah you guys are so not even listening08:27
Dasnipa`time consuming to google... rofl08:27
Seveasponingru, no08:27
owner989lol dasnipa08:27
Dasnipa`read man pages much?08:27
Lord_Maynothto the points being made or the questions being asked08:27
Lord_Maynothyes it is easy08:28
SeveasLord_Maynoth, if you simply looked at the wiki it would have taken mere hours08:28
Seveasor minutes08:28
poningruProfQki: do you remember what was upgraded today?08:28
Lord_Maynothbut it takes weeks to configure08:28
DrBairzeta: what bus does it run on?08:28
Millenniumgroupdamn so many posts about DD5.1 sound on the ubuntu forum :(08:28
Lord_Maynothi disagree08:28
Biscuitian_WarheI downloaded the ATI Xorg Driver from Synaptic, but everytime I try to fun fglrxconfig It wants to write to the XFree86 File.08:28
Lord_Maynothtotally08:28
owner989i agree seveas, ubuntu is a great learning tool08:28
owner989for linux newbies08:28
ProfQkiponingru: just a minute08:28
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owner989there is so much documentation08:28
Lord_Maynothyes08:28
sethkBiscuitian_Warhe, and?08:28
Lord_Maynoththere are thousands of how to articles08:28
poningruowner989: I disagree there isnt enough08:29
Lord_Maynotheveryhthing is there08:29
SeveasLord_Maynoth, disagree all you want, but don't blamu Ubuntu for you not being able to find things08:29
Lord_Maynotheverything you ever wanted to know08:29
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Biscuitian_Warhesethk: I've got Xorg. I downloaded the xorg one. Yet it keeps trying to write to that file08:29
poningruhave you looked at gentoo documentation?08:29
Lord_Maynothhey I am not seav08:29
poningruits sooo much better than ubuntu docs08:29
Lord_Maynothjust pointing out the obvious08:29
sethkBiscuitian_Warhe, and?  why do you think that's a problem?08:29
zetaDrBair checking now08:29
ThunderguyIs there an ubuntu program I could use or download to check the surface of a cd for unreadable areas due to scratches?08:29
owner989but gentoo takes much longer to setup08:29
SeveasThunderguy, you can vrify the md5sum of the cd08:29
Biscuitian_Warhesethk: I don't know how to configure xorg myself. But this won't do it either. So bleh.08:29
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jeed890thunder guy just clean the discs08:30
DrBairzeta:  some of the internal ones are usb08:30
sethkBiscuitian_Warhe, writing xorg.conf _is_ configuring xorg08:30
Lord_Maynothubuntu needs a device manager with the ability to update and install new drivers,  it needs a .exe install system like autopackage, and it needs to autodetect and automount windows partitions out of box to apeal to windows morons08:30
phiqtiondjk_: i have been appreciating you're help. how can i install a new programa to wine or winetools ?08:30
ThunderguyTrue, Seveas: The cd's from the factory have the same chksum as the cd's from the download site?08:30
Lord_Maynothif windows morons is not your target base then it is working great!08:30
Biscuitian_Warhesethk: Can you just tell me about !ati, so I can go to that one wiki... Lol08:30
Lord_Maynothnot sure why there is a disagreement08:30
SeveasThunderguy, yes08:30
SeveasThunderguy, and there is also md5sums.txt in the root of the cd08:31
Thunderguyk.08:31
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SeveasBiscuitian_Warhe, wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI08:31
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Dasnipa`'windows morons' just need to learn to not be lazy and actually read man mages, and not think that google 'takes too much time'08:31
Biscuitian_WarheGoogle is a great tool.08:31
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owner989exactly dasnipa08:31
owner989thats why there is so much spyware and virus infected computers08:31
poningruSeveas: on the cd cant you press backspace at prompt?08:32
UncleDIf I am using the LiveCD can I mkdir /home/media and create virtual space in memory?08:32
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SeveasDasnipa`, please don't use words as morons08:32
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Lord_MaynothI am not saying it is bad, or poorly documented.... it just takes more time digging through how to guides and being on the CLI than most windows users care to do08:32
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ProfQkiponingru: unfortunately i can't tell what i upgraded08:32
DrBairzeta: i need to do some stuff around the house before the wife figures out I've been a bum all day.  If you still need help you can PM me08:32
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zetaDrBair its an internal usb08:32
Dasnipa`Seveas, i put it in quotes as i was using the wording that Lord_Maynoth used08:32
jeed890does anybody run xp and ubuntu 5.04 dual boot (grub)08:32
zetaDrBair i will try the guide08:32
DrBairzeta: ah ok, then that should work08:32
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Seveasjeed890, I used tu08:33
poningruowner989: Dasnipa` Lord_Maynoth : no its not the users fault the software needs to mature enough to have almost zero learning curve, if the software is requiring reading 100's of pages of docs then it has failed08:33
djk_phiqtion: if you want to install a windows prog with wine type  wine name/of/the/program.exe to install it..08:33
veryfunnyDrBair thanks08:33
OneSeventeenhow do I set up multiple IP addresses on the same interface? (for web server purposes)08:33
poningruI am speaking about end user software08:33
jeed890could you help me plz then seveas because thats my problem08:33
Lord_Maynothwe agree then poningru08:33
SeveasLord_Maynoth, learning linux is much much easier than learning windows08:33
veryfunnyDrBair can this be used for an USB controller also?08:33
djk_phiqtion: of course you'll have to be in the dir of said exe or point to it..08:33
ProfQkiOneSeventeen: you can make ethx:1 interface and give an ip for it08:34
Lord_Maynothbwhahahaha    it will be in ten years if MS doesn't kill by then with frtiz chips08:34
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veryfunnyDrBair it is an old media box so it has buttons fro music, tv, camera, etc08:34
ProfQkiOneSeventeen: for example ifconfig eth0:1 192.168.1.108:34
SeveasLord_Maynoth, blaming linuc for not having fritz drivers is ridiculous08:34
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zetaDrBair it is an old media box so it has buttons fro music, tv, camera, etc08:34
Lord_Maynothits taking too long to evolve into a cosumer level os, and the groundwork for trusted computing is being laid08:34
zetaDrBair can this be used for that card also?08:34
Lord_Maynothstraw man argument08:35
Lord_Maynoth:P08:35
MillenniumgroupLord_Maynot  it needs a .exe install system like autopackage, and it needs to autodetect and automount windows partitions out of box to apeal to windows morons ......... clearly you can't be serious?08:35
jeed890can you @seveas?08:35
SeveasLord_Maynoth, bullshit and please stop this highly irrelevant discussion08:35
poningruLord_Maynoth: unfortunately you cannot straight up build a mature os it has to evolve08:35
bshumatetreacherous computing is more like it08:35
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UncleDIf I am using the LiveCD can I mkdir /home/media and create virtual space in memory?08:35
SeveasMillenniumgroup, ewwww autopackage08:35
DrBairzeta: udev can be used to assign device names to pretty much anything, or force them as is the case now08:35
Seveastalk about crap...08:35
Lord_Maynothoop ok08:35
poningruLord_Maynoth: take a look at plasma and other things08:35
Dasnipa`well thats if microsoft survives after thier new OS flops, and google surpasses them in size and puts out a linux based google OS08:35
BlueDevilSeveas: hello, are you maintaining a repo with freenx?08:35
MillenniumgroupSeveas I was quoting Lord_Maynoth08:35
UncleDIf I am using the LiveCD can I mkdir /home/media and create virtual space in memory? I need to mount /dev/hda1 using the LiveCD to fix a problem with ld-2.2.93.so08:35
zetaDrBair ok i will play with it08:35
Lord_Maynothmaybe i am wrong... but trusted computing is on its way08:35
phiqtiondjk_: thanks08:35
Lord_Maynothlicences cost money08:36
Seveasenough of this nonsense alread08:36
ProfQkiOneSeventeen: is it good for you?08:36
bshumate@Lord_Maynoth:  sometimes when you want to do something along the same lines, but differently, *you* have to change.  Linux does not work like windows, just like riding a horse, or bicycle will get you somewhere, but not in the same manner as driving a car.  *You* either adapt to using Linux the way Linux works, or just stick to being a "Windows Moron". ;-)08:36
djk_phiqtion: you're welcome.08:36
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poningruok guys this argument does not belong here08:36
Seveasplease stop this irrelevant discussion or move to #ubuntu-offtopic08:36
Seveasthis is a support channel08:36
Millenniumgroupagreed let's stop this pointless argument, it's not going anywhere08:36
poningruyeah what the OP said08:36
Seveasand even though Lord_Maynoth needs support, that should be somewhere else ;)08:36
Lord_Maynothand linux cannot be free and pay for licences for trusted computing if MS allows them to be licenced on the TP platform even08:36
florghi. what is a good sound recording tools for GNOME? Like krec for KDE08:36
KyralTake it to #ubuntu-offtopic08:36
BlueDevilSeveas: do you or do you not08:37
BlueDevil?08:37
SeveasBlueDevil, missed te question there08:37
poningruflorg: you mean from the mic?08:37
BlueDevilSeveas: hello, are you maintaining a repo with freenx?08:37
Seveasyes I mainitain such a repository08:37
Lord_Maynothgimme one strait answer and I will leave08:37
florgponingru: the line in08:37
BlueDevilthe sun-jre package is inaccesible08:37
jkilord_maynoth: 4208:37
Lord_Maynothdo you guys think dapper drake will autodetect and automount ntfs partitions08:37
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Lord_Maynothyes or no08:37
Dasnipa`no08:37
poningruflorg: yeah its sound recorder08:37
Thunderguyuh-oh md5sum didn't match on the cd I got in the mail :(08:37
SeveasLord_Maynoth, breezy already does08:37
BlueDevilSeveas: the sun-jre package is inaccesible08:38
Millenniumgroupno08:38
Lord_Maynothman sev dont tell me that08:38
djk_Seveas: i already told him that 20 mins ago....08:38
BlueDevilSeveas: 404 - forbidden08:38
SeveasBlueDevil, I know08:38
Lord_MaynothI have installed it on 3 diff machines08:38
florgponingru: thx, i'll try it...08:38
Lord_Maynothhad to run a script on each one08:38
Lord_Maynothto detect and set up ntfs partitions08:38
poningruflorg: under sound&video in applications08:38
BlueDevilSeveas: on purpose?08:38
Lord_Maynothamd/intel rigs08:38
SeveasBlueDevil, yup08:38
florgponingru: ok08:38
gnomefreakthe only problem ive found with some of the extra repos so far is the gpg keys08:38
phiqtiondjk_: wine is simulating windows 98 am i correct? so if i have a program like cakewalk kinetic it won't install in linux under wine correct?08:38
phiqtiondjk_: because kinetic requires winxp08:39
Lord_Maynothok here is better question08:39
Lord_MaynothIF08:39
Seveasphiqtion, winr can simulate 98 too08:39
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djk_phiqtion: depends on what you set wine to, i think it starts at windows 2.0 and ends at 2003..08:39
unimatrix9testhello everyone08:39
Lord_Maynothbreezy is suposed to autodetect and automount partitions  why does it not do so?08:39
SeveasLord_Maynoth, I already told you to take this elsewheere08:39
Lord_Maynoth:P08:39
poningruSeveas: perhaps its time to consider kb Lord_Maynoth08:39
phiqtiondjk_: how can i change it08:39
poningrujust a suggestion08:39
djk_phiqtion: with winetools08:40
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djk_phiqtion: there's an option somewhere..08:40
Lord_Maynothsec just ban me for asking a legit question like you did last time for saying autopackage worked ok for me with gaim 1.5 under hoary08:40
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jag_fsfso anybody know of somebody who has put together updated media packages with gstreamer 0.10? i'd love to try it out...08:40
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djk_phiqtion: type winetools in a terminal and look around.08:40
SeveasLord_Maynoth, that's your definition of OK08:40
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Seveasbut I remember now, you were here before08:40
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Seveasbeing just as annoying08:41
gnomefreakdamn Seveas  that was fast08:41
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phiqtiondjk_: im looking and dont see any option08:41
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phiqtiondjk_: ok got it bro08:41
OneSeventeenProfQki: sorry, boss came in and had a question, that looks good, so would that basically modify my /network/interfaces file and add the new virtual interface with its own IP?08:41
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ddew|bofhHey08:41
BlueDevilSeveas: then could you please remove it from the list?08:41
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djk_phiqtion: Modify Wine Configuration08:41
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SeveasBlueDevil, no ;)08:41
Jxpxmaxi08:42
SeveasBlueDevil, mind if I send you a private message?08:42
ddew|bofhAnyone here running breezy on a powermac g5?08:42
OneSeventeenProfQki: and does that mean I could also do ifconfig eth0:2 192.168.1.2 and ifconfig eth0:3 192.168.1.3 ?08:42
BlueDevilSeveas: by all means..08:42
BlueDevilgo ahead08:42
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Agiofwsroot@active:/ # /etc/init.d/ssh start  ; * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server..  ...fail!    Inned some help please08:42
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Biscuitian_WarheHi, I compiled ALSA 1.09 like I do everytime I install Hoary, but for some reason at the end of running alsaconf in spits out that the card id isn't valid, and it won't finish setting up the card08:42
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TTilusI burned data DVD with couple of 1+Gb files.  It works fine on the machine it was burned.  Another Linux box having same make and age DVD drive shows only 8-11Mb files, otherwise things work.  Any suggestions what eats up the file tails?08:43
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bthorntonhow would I find out which package contains the 'strings' command?  either that, or which package contains the 'strings' command?08:43
Agiofwsroot@active:/ # /etc/init.d/ssh start  ; * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server..  ...fail!    Inned some help please08:43
Agiofws?08:43
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jag_fsfAgiofws: what does /var/log/messages say?08:43
TTilusbronson: do you _have_ the strings already?08:43
SeveasAgiofws, and /var/log/daemon.log08:43
Agiofwsroot@active:/ # /etc/init.d/ssh start  ; * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server..  ...fail!    I need some help please how do you start an ssh server on ubuntu08:43
ompaulAgiofws, I was going to ask you but you asked twice so now I have to tell you to take it easy please08:43
Chrizzhi, hope some1 can help me.... running my ubuntu comp without monitor, just controlling it with VNC but the resolution is set to 640x480 and i can't put it any higher.... any1 got an idea??08:43
TTilusbronson: sorry, wrong guy08:43
rosahi!is there a possiblity for installing CAMFROG into ubuntu that works?08:43
Agiofwsok  ompaul08:43
TTilusbthornton: do you _have_ the strings already?08:44
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bthorntonTTilus: Well, if I do, it's not in the $PATH.08:44
UncleDCan someone help me? Im trying to save my other box!! I need to know, if I boot up with the LiveCD can I do: mkdir /home/media  and then sudo mount /dev/hda1 /home/media08:44
TTilusbthornton: if you do, which strings gives you the file08:44
unimatrix9testlots of questions...08:44
TTilusbthornton: search package containing file named strings08:44
TTilusbthornton: packages.debian.org08:44
unimatrix9testUncleD : mkdir /mnt/hda108:45
ompaulAgiofws, did you check var log messages to see what it complained about? (like all the nice people asked?)08:45
bthorntonTTilus: thanks08:45
gnomefreakpackages.ubuntu.com works too :)08:45
TTilusgnomefreak: whoa, good to know, thnx08:45
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unimatrix9testThen mount -t (filesystem) -o umask=0000 /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda108:45
Agiofwsompaul,  i think its workind08:46
gnomefreakyw was just thinking for the people that are using ubuntu not debian thats all08:46
ompaulAgiofws, ssh -C your_username@localhost08:46
unimatrix9testfor example mount -t ntfs08:46
ddew|bofhIs there a channel for ppc users on ubuntu?08:46
Agiofwsompaul,  wjat does -C do again ?08:46
jag_fsfso anybody know of somebody who has put together updated media packages with gstreamer 0.10? i'd love to try it out...08:46
Agiofwscompress?08:46
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eedgeI'm networked through a switch to another windows station... All internet is going through that station (and working) but when I do sudo mii-tool eth008:46
eedge I get eth0: 10 Mbit, half duplex, no link.08:46
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UncleDunimatrix9test - the error I get when I try that command is: You must be root to use this command (mount) - im using the LiveCD08:46
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ompaulAgiofws, exactly08:47
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jag_fsfUncleD : prefix the command with sudo08:47
Agiofwsok08:47
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unimatrix9testUncleD ; sudo passwd08:47
Agiofwsits faster ompaul ?08:47
unimatrix9testtype new password08:47
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unimatrix9testfor root08:47
unimatrix9test:)08:47
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UncleDso sudo passwd08:47
UncleDthen enter a new pass?08:47
UncleDthen su?08:47
SeveasUncleD, no08:48
kbrookswait wait08:48
Seveasjust 'sudo mount'08:48
jag_fsfor just sudo mount -t ...08:48
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Seveasdon't set a root password, you don't need it on Ubuntu08:48
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UncleDso do this:08:48
UncleDsudo mkdir /mnt/hda108:48
UncleDsudo mount -t (filesystem) -o umask=0000 /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda108:48
ompaulAgiofws, exactly08:48
SeveasUncleD, yeah08:48
unimatrix9testyeah ....08:48
unimatrix9test:P08:48
UncleDwhat actually goes in the place of (filesystem) ?08:48
kbrooksUncleD, there is NO password in root, and you dont need it except in special cases08:48
jag_fsfdepends.08:48
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bthorntonThis is a long shot, but would anybody here happen to have any experience with installing Maple 10 in Linux?08:48
jag_fsfuncled: where did the filesystem come from?08:49
jag_fsfuncled: windows? mac? linux? bsd?08:49
UncleDits linux08:49
UncleDwhat happened is its a rh8 box08:49
jag_fsfuncled: then try ext308:49
jag_fsfuncled: if not, ext208:49
UncleDand the library ld-2.2.93.so got destroyed08:49
ni1sIve desided to leave Ubuntu behind me08:49
kbrooksUncleD, you'll want mount -t auto08:49
UncleDso the box wont even boot up08:49
kbrooksUncleD, use auto. mount will guess for you08:49
Seveashehe, ld-*.so is indeed very neccessary08:50
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UncleDsudo mount -t auto /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 ?08:50
kbrooksUncleD, yes08:50
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Millenniumgroupkbrooks, now im confused08:50
kbrooksMillenniumgroup, about what?08:50
ni1sIve got a nice custom kernel built, a new found love for enlightenment and the knowlage to leave it all behind me08:50
Millenniumgrouphow do you get ROOT access without using sudo command? when ever I use sudo or sudo su (im always prompted for a password)08:50
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KyralMillenniumgroup: you don't08:51
jag_fsfmillenniumgroup: you don't.08:51
zon7hi there08:51
ni1sNo distro has enabled me to learn asmuch as Ubuntu did08:51
clauzheh08:51
Kyralthere is a reason for this08:51
clauzclaus@claus:~$ sudo mount -t auto /dev/sda1 /media/sda108:51
clauzclaus@claus:~$ cd /media/sda/08:51
clauzbash: cd: /media/sda/: Permission denied08:51
kbrooksMillenniumgroup, don't do so except in special cases08:51
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kbrooksclauz, by design08:51
FrdPrefctHello08:51
zon7i have a widescreen acer and I want to have widescreen suport in console mode. any help?08:51
FrdPrefctWhere can I get the deb-make package for breezy?08:51
Millenniumgroupkbrooks,sorry m8 I missread your statement :)08:51
unimatrix9testwanto install ubuntu ,and no internet acces, are there iso' s for extra packages for ubuntu?08:51
kbrooksclauz, you created /media/sda1 as root08:51
Millenniumgroupim new, started usinb linux 2 months ago :)08:51
Kyralzon7: what is the resolution on the screen?08:51
unimatrix9testits for an school08:51
zon71280x80008:52
ompaulMillenniumgroup, you don't have to do sudo -i / -s / su that is not the way to use sudo - the way to do it is when a command needs root is invoke sudo - so you don't end up using root access for cd /some/path or pwd or something else08:52
owner989milleniumgroup thats no longer new lol08:52
vbgunzMillenniumgroup: You'll learn to love that password one day...!08:52
|Waters|of|Hell|I've never used Ubuntu before :(08:52
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KyralMillenniumgroup: do what I do08:52
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Kyralmake bash aliases for you most often sudo'd commands (Apt-Get comes to mind)08:52
ompaulMillenniumgroup, sudo is ohh 24 or 25 years old at this stage08:52
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eedgeI'm networked through a switch to another windows station... All internet is going through that station (and working) but when I do sudo mii-tool eth008:52
eedge I get eth0: 10 Mbit, half duplex, no link.08:52
gnomefreak|Waters|of|Hell|,  you shoudl try it sometime08:52
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ompaulgnomefreak, s/should/must :-)))08:53
Millenniumgroupowner, well ok ;)   hmm I see ompaul...08:53
unimatrix9testare there iso's for extra packages for ubuntu acces to all sources without internet?08:53
clauzkbrooks, no08:53
Millenniumgroupinteresting08:53
FrdPrefctAnyone know where I can get the deb-make package?08:53
Chrizzhi, hope some1 can help me.... running my ubuntu comp without monitor, just controlling it with VNC but the resolution is set to 640x480 and i can't put it any higher.... any1 got an idea??08:53
|Waters|of|Hell|gnome, how did you make your text yellow on my screen ?08:53
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poningruunimatrix9test: its in the works08:53
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poningruunimatrix9test: not availble yet08:53
owner989|Waters|of|Hell| you should try ubuntu you wont be disappointed08:53
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navaroneFrdPrefct, I think you need build-essentials08:53
kbrooksclauz, sudo mkdir /foo # this does08:53
unimatrix9testok thanks for the info08:53
gnomefreakunimatrix9test,  you cant access the sources without a net connection to get packages08:53
unimatrix9testwhen is it due?08:53
ompaul|Waters|of|Hell|, like this where I use your name ????08:53
zon7kyral: Any help?08:54
kbrooksgnomefreak, incorrect08:54
clauzkbrooks, ntfs mount specific08:54
KyralWell I dunno about widescreen08:54
kbrooksgnomefreak, may be deb-src on the cd08:54
halibutAre there any gmail + firefox1.5 users who would like to test my ubuntu skin for gmail?08:54
owner989chrizz what video card do you have08:54
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Kyralbut to force the resolution08:54
gnomefreak|Waters|of|Hell|, i didnt its your irc client08:54
Millenniumgrouptx for the info ompaul, kyral,jag_fsf and vbunz :)08:54
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gnomefreakkbrooks,  when he stated sources i was thinking sources no tthe cd source08:54
|Waters|of|Hell|gnomefreak: ohd08:54
|Waters|of|Hell|oh*08:54
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ompaulMillenniumgroup, join the big happy club :-)08:54
KyralYou'd have to lookup the hexcode for the resolution which I have no idea what it is08:55
|Waters|of|Hell|Sorry can you tell, noob here.08:55
navarone|Waters|of|Hell|, your client indicates a line with your nick in it by colouring it a shade you specify in preferences08:55
Millenniumgroup:D08:55
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KyralI only know that 1200x1024 is 0x31B08:55
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william_hey guys, what program should I use to burn a .bin and a .cue file??08:55
zon7ok08:55
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zon7gonna search over the net08:55
unimatrix9testk3b08:55
Chrizz(owner989): nvidia geforce 2 mx, drivers installed08:55
|Waters|of|Hell|I'm using Irssi :)08:55
Kyralzon7: I believe the Gentoo Wiki has a table08:55
owner989did you try running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg chrizz08:55
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korhalfwilliam_, k3b08:55
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poningruwilliam_: either k3b or gnomebaker08:56
clauzkbrooks, umase=0222 =)08:56
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|Waters|of|Hell|Don't ask why08:56
william_well gnome baker wont let me do .bin and .cue08:56
william_only .iso I think08:56
UncleDwhat is the standard floppy /dev/fd* for ubuntu using the LiveCD?08:56
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poningruwilliam_: hmm yeah k3b then08:56
FrdPrefctnavarone : Already got that installed08:56
Seveaswilliam_, bchunk can convert it to iso for you08:56
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poningruwait why doesnt gnomebaker have .bin/.cue support?08:57
poningruthats lame08:57
Kyralbecause k3b is better08:57
poningruits the gnome answer to burning08:57
william_ahh I got it.. I had tried k3b before but it gave me some cdrdao error but I just tried it again08:57
william_and it works08:57
unimatrix9testlame is an other package08:57
unimatrix9testlol08:57
Seveasponingru, according to william_ not :)08:57
Seveasunimatrix9test, :p08:57
KyralStill, k3b is better08:57
william_yeah it only said .iso for burning images08:57
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KyralI run Fluxbox and still use k3b08:58
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unimatrix9testi run gnome with k3b no problem here08:58
Seveas!help08:58
Tony_SidawayHelp message08:58
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unimatrix9testis there any one here that use ubuntu in an primary school?08:59
FrdPrefctanyone else have suggestions as to where I can get deb-make for breezy?08:59
KyralLearn how to make a Debian package the right way08:59
Seveas!find deb-make08:59
Seveasah crap, the thing is gone08:59
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poningruwhere's Ubotu?09:00
Seveas-ENOCLUE09:00
Seveashe and cafuego are AWOL09:00
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Chrizzowner989 nothin seems to happen....09:00
ompaulunimatrix9test, have a look at gcompris and edubuntu as a starting point09:00
navaronegcompris is quite good09:01
UncleDunimatrix9test - is /dev/fd0 the floppy drive on ubuntu for LiveCD?09:01
flodinedoes anyone have arwiz font installed on breezy? need help09:01
unimatrix9testyes09:01
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flodineartwiz09:01
owner989chrizz it should do09:01
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owner989sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:02
owner989in terminal09:02
Chrizzterminal does nothin09:02
Chrizzyep, but now nothin :S09:02
owner989you are using breezy09:02
owner9895.1009:02
Chrizzyes09:02
vbgunzwhat is the command to upgrade cleanly from Hoary 5.04 to Breezy 5.10? Is it it sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?09:03
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veryfunnyis it possible that my DVD burner dosent have a driver?09:03
veryfunnyand thats why it wont mount anything?09:03
ompaulveryfunny, put a CD into it and see if it sees it09:04
veryfunnyit doesnt see any discs09:04
unimatrix9testan data dvd09:04
ompaulveryfunny, is it wired up correctly?09:04
unimatrix9testnot an movie09:04
veryfunnydata dvd09:04
veryfunnylet me try that09:04
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ompaulveryfunny, I am suggesting a music CD09:04
Chrizzowner989 can i maybe force a resolution?09:05
veryfunnyit is wired as the amster, with IDE jumpers in the master slot09:05
veryfunnyAudio Cds dont work09:05
chechuHello,Help Spanish ?09:05
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veryfunnyDVD movies neither09:05
unimatrix9testdata?09:05
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gnomefreakubotu tell vbgunz about upgrade09:05
ompaulveryfunny, so it sees nothing09:05
gnomefreak:(09:05
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veryfunnyompaul nope09:05
gnomefreakwho killed ubotu??? :(09:05
chrisx1Does amsn work on ubuntu09:06
chrisx1?09:06
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owner989chrizz you can manually edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:06
gnomefreakchechu,  spanish is at #ubuntu-es09:06
veryfunnyompaul it is a phillips09:06
vbgunz!upgrade09:06
chechugnomefreak,  thank you09:06
gnomefreakvbgunz, ubotu isnt here or broken09:06
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vbgunzgnomefreak: yup ubotu is dead...09:06
veryfunnyompaul model number DVD8301/44 i think09:07
chrisx1Does amsn or Kopete work on ubuntu09:07
vbgunzisn't it simple or no? I thought sudo apt-get dist-upgrade09:07
unimatrix9testveryfunny : what does dmesg say?09:07
Kyralchrisx1: yes09:07
gnomefreakchrisx1, yes both do09:07
unimatrix9testamsn or kopete , use gaim?09:07
Kyralchrisx1: why wouldn't they :P09:07
unimatrix9testits already there...09:07
phyburnhey im having trouble talking with my drive i keep getting I/O errors09:07
chrisx1gaim is crap09:07
gnomefreaki personally rather use gaim but thats just me09:07
chrisx1dp dnt work:(09:08
chrisx1lolz09:08
ompaulveryfunny, do this >>cat /etc/fstab<< and tell me is there more than one entry for /media/cdrom09:08
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unimatrix9testthere is an platform independent amsn, so if all fails09:08
unimatrix9testyou can use that...09:08
chrisx1ok09:08
unimatrix9testgoogle amsn09:08
phyburnhey im having trouble talking with my drive i keep getting I/O errors and wanted to know if there was some reason that having linux already on the drive that it would mess up fdisk to where it could not read my drive and wont let me edit it09:08
veryfunnydmesg says >>> http://pastebin.com/45134809:08
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phiqtionim trying to cd in the wine program files folder. but terminal stops in Program and does not read Program Files. terminal doesnt read spaces?09:09
unimatrix9testi used it an lot on an live knoppix cd09:09
unimatrix9testthen run amsn from usb stick..09:09
owner989phiq did you run winecfg09:09
veryfunnyompaul there are two /media/cdrom S09:09
Seveasphiqtion, cd Program\ Files09:09
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phiqtionowner989: i have wintools. that is for?09:09
veryfunnyompaul one is hdd the other hdc09:09
owner989i recommend running winecfg09:09
owner989and autodetect drives09:09
varsendaggerhey has anyone gotten e17 working for ubuntu?09:10
veryfunnyompaul i have tried the fstab route to no avail09:10
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TTilusI cant get DMA enabled on my dvd-drive.  Web tells me I propably dont have support for my chipset loaded.  How do I manage kernel modules in Ubuntu?  In Debian I use modconf, but it looks like it is not workin (doesnt list any modules).09:10
ompaulveryfunny, fstab route?09:10
veryfunnyompaul and thats what leads me to drivers09:10
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veryfunnyompaul, frogzoo had me retype the fstab, etc09:10
veryfunnyompaul that didnt help09:11
veryfunnyompaul still sees nothing09:11
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varsendaggerTTilus, i don't know09:11
chrisbanyone know where I can dump "mknod /dev/i2c-4 c 89 4" so my keyboard light works every time I boot the machine? Right now I have to do it each time I boot...09:11
CarinArrhi, i get error messages from ld saying it can't find -lGlu.. I seem to have the mesa stuff installed.. is there anything else i need to do?09:11
ompaulreboot it and see if it is there if it is not then it is not detected which is very strange, I would pull the box apart and make sure it was not on cable select - even try booting from the dvd with your livecd09:12
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veryfunnyompaul the very bottom of this dmesg has a lot of FAILs in it might that be the culprit drive  >> link ::  http://pastebin.com/45134809:12
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bushitohow can i pass from ubuntu to kubuntu???09:13
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veryfunnyompaul it is not on cable select i know that09:13
owner989you could just install kde bushito09:13
N6REJwhat would be the best way to print to another printer on the lan when both systems are running ubuntu?09:13
veryfunnyompaul i just rebooted before coming on here so...09:13
gnomefreakveryfunny, is that with a cd rom in it?09:13
eedgeI'm networked through a switch to another windows station... All internet is going through that station (and working) but when I do sudo mii-tool eth009:14
ompaultry the eject command09:14
eedge I get eth0: 10 Mbit, half duplex, no link.09:14
veryfunnygnomefreak reboot with the live cd in?09:14
navaronebushito, install kde-desktop and then you can change thru "sessions" when you log in09:14
eedgeI swear I'm invisable :P09:14
bushitohehehe but is the source package of ubuntu same as kubuntu, i mean if i dont got to change the apt-get source file list?09:14
eedgelol09:14
gnomefreakveryfunny,  the errors are with or without cd rom in the drive?09:14
veryfunnyompaul eject opens the drive09:14
ompaulvery is there anything in there?09:14
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veryfunnygnome freak that dmesg was with a cd in09:14
veryfunnyompaul yes an audio cd09:15
gnomefreakveryfunny,  try another cd for the hell of it see if you get errors like that09:15
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ompaulveryfunny, please try a different audiocd09:15
veryfunnyompaul any requests? =)09:15
phyburndoes any one know what i can do about `unable to read /dev/hda` what should i do09:15
ompaulveryfunny, then launch applications sound cdplayer09:15
gnomefreakwhitezombie if you got it :)09:16
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bwlangphyburn: try again with sudo ?09:16
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veryfunnyompaul Foreigner in the drive cdplayer says no disc09:17
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rubemhi there09:17
phyburnbwlang i think its in root i see the # sign09:17
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rubemwhich msn clients do you use?:09:17
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ompaulveryfunny, I am stumped09:17
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phyburnbwlang im booting off the CD it does not even have sudo09:17
rubemi'm looking for a good msn client09:17
UncleDuse centericq09:18
veryfunnyompaul you are not the first one to be09:18
eedgeI'm networked through a switch to another windows station... All internet is going through that station (and working) but when I do sudo mii-tool eth009:18
eedge I get eth0: 10 Mbit, half duplex, no link.09:18
varsendaggerrubem i use gaim,09:18
navaronerubem, I think gaim can handle msn...? But don't quote me on that09:18
veryfunnyompaul i am going to reboot with livecd in09:18
rubemgaim is not good, imho09:18
bwlangphyburn - didn't know it was booted from cd... what does fdisk -l /dev/hda say?09:18
varsendaggerhey is there some kind of trillian for linux?09:18
navaroneI was just thinking the same thing varsendagger09:19
Seveasvarsendagger, gaim09:19
bwlangphyburn: also do a dmesg | grep hda to be sure that the drive was detected09:19
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phyburnbwlang i hole bunch of nothing lol09:19
Seveastrillian is -- scary09:19
bwlangvarsendagger: gaim...09:19
troinci'm using gaim's jabber side to handle my google talk, but it won't stay connected more 10mins09:19
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rubemdo you use amns?09:19
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bwlangphyburn: so you have no parition table...09:20
troinc?09:20
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pderI TRY THE UBUNTU AND IT ARE DUMB IT DO NOT SUPPORT COMPUTER BECAUSE IT ARE DUMB09:20
phyburnbwlang : ok it just spammed a hole spew of stuff09:20
phyburnbwland: the last one was buffer I/O error on device hda, logic block 1409:20
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bushitohello09:20
troinchowdy09:21
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eedgelo09:21
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varsendaggerdoes gaim allow me to be signed into multiple messengers?09:21
troincyep09:21
Seveasvarsendagger, yes09:21
eedgeI'm networked through a switch to another windows station... All internet is going through that station (and working) but when I do sudo mii-tool eth009:21
varsendaggerwell then it gets my thumb up09:21
eedge I get eth0: 10 Mbit, half duplex, no link.09:21
bwlangphyburn: hmm sounds like maybe a bad drive? try running the drive check from the manufacturer...09:21
phyburnbwlang: yea im trying to partition it it ran once and then just crashed on me and now from then on its not working09:21
bushitohey i got a kubuntu CD, and it gots KDE, how can i install the package without having to download it?, cuase i select it to install and it starts downloading but duh i got it already oin the cd cant it just install it??09:21
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phyburnbwlang: ok09:22
Seveasbushito, insert the cd, sudo apt-cd add, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop09:22
bthorntonWhat's a good editor that will let me edit large (i.e. >100M) files without needing load the whole file?  I'm trying to edit an installer script stub on a large installation binary.09:22
eedgeErm, am I like not voiced or something?09:22
Chrizzowner989 http://pastebin.com/451363 thats my conf but bigger resolutions are alrdy in there...09:22
eedgeheh09:22
Seveaseedge, no09:23
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Kyralbushito: the installer downloads the packages if it detects an usable internet conn09:23
Seveaswell, not anymore :)09:23
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bwlangbthornton: sed? dunno if the graphical editors load partials... - probably emacs does...09:24
eedgeo... k... lol09:24
_tim__i just installed ubuntu on a new computer and now it doesnt work and now we have to throw out the computer and my dada is mad cause we just bought it and now it is ruined please help09:24
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[[kon] hi09:24
bwlang_tim__: are you kidding?09:24
bthorntonbwland: yeah I've so far tried vi and gedit, and they both want to load the whole thing09:24
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Seveaseedge, but if mii-{tool,diag} say you have no link, then you have no link09:24
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JayLv99hey09:24
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eedgebut I do, clearly, becuase I'm talking to you right now through that said link.09:24
Chousuke_tim__: the computer is fine.09:25
JayLv99does anyone know how to disable wall or write on server for a network?09:25
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Chousukeoh, bleh :P09:25
eedgewhich is what's confusing me...09:25
[[kon] im trying to do a non local vnc connection, i have the server ip and it doesnt seem to work09:25
SeveasChousuke, his computer is, he is not09:25
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kbrooksSeveas, who did you ban09:25
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eedgeReally all I'm trying to get to work in file sharing from the windows station to the linux client.09:25
Seveaskbrooks, that was pder again09:25
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troinc(kon) do yoiu have vnc server on the other machine09:25
kbrooksSeveas, who is pder? care to show me09:25
Seveaseedge, all the switch/network card lights are burning?09:25
Seveaskbrooks, /lastlog pder09:26
bushitoKyral, but how can i make it get it from the cd already tried the sudo apt-cd install but it doesnt got the apt-cd what can i do?? xD09:26
Pballer82hello i'm  currently installing on my other comp, should i make the partition logical or primary. I'm installing linux as a second os and i want to keep windows xp intact09:26
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veryfunnyompaul it didn't boot the live CD09:27
themuffenmannlivecd for ubuntu?09:27
veryfunnyyes09:27
themuffenmannah..i dunno..never made one myself09:27
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themuffenmannonly slackware09:27
Pballer82hey which type of partiton should i make on my HD, i have unallocated space should it be primary or logical?09:27
sbkHave a silly question. Assuming there isn't a runaway memory-hogging process acitve, will adding more swap space reduce the odds of the oom-killer being triggered?09:27
kilgostbonsoir tt le monde09:27
SeveasPballer82, linux does not care :O)09:27
[[kon] pballer82, logical for swap space, primary for space09:28
Pballer82kk09:28
kilgostoups... sorry ...09:28
veryfunnymy dvd burner doesnt see discs09:28
ompaulveryfunny, well now that is strange I would suggest posting that model number to the mailing list with a does anyone else have an issue with that (after first checking for such a post) then if no one says they actually have one consider it a bug09:28
Seveaskilgost, #ubuntu-fr svp ;)09:28
kilgostyes yes sry !09:28
kilgostbye..09:28
veryfunnyompaul where is this list?09:28
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veryfunny!mailinglist09:28
Seveasveryfunny, ubotu is gone09:28
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ompaulhttp://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users is the list09:29
veryfunnydarn09:29
gnomefreaki miss him :(09:29
veryfunny!long_live_ubotu09:29
veryfunny=)09:29
ompaulveryfunny,  you asked me and did not wait a minute - please if you ask slow down and allow others get the answer09:29
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veryfunnyompaul, i was just checking to see if umbotu knew09:30
veryfunnyompaul, sorry09:30
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ompaulyou can ask me or the bot - but there is no bot so please wait - the bot is dead long live the bot!09:31
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singinmatt13schroger's cat is dead too09:31
gnomefreakis someone re-programming ubotu or did we lose him for good?09:32
veryfunnymany deaths =(09:32
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ompaulsinginmatt13, you lifted the lid? or are you just guessing based on duration?09:32
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seluthai just installed a new video and sound card in to ubuntu, x wont start because the driver needs to be changed, what is the wizard thing to resetup sound and video on ubuntu? i could make the xorg file but i think the wiz would be much easier09:34
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Kyralselutha: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:34
seluthaKyral, great thanks09:34
singinmatt13ompaul, I'm judgin on the fact that I killed the cat, and my name is Curiosity09:34
veryfunnyis there an easier way to search the mailing list? or must i muttle through millions of pages09:34
bwlangveryfunny: gmane may have your mailing list...09:35
ompaulveryfunny, well I would use a search engine09:35
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veryfunnybwlang ? huh?09:35
veryfunnyompaul duh wow i am a little slow today09:35
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ompaulveryfunny, put in your model number and the list name and one or two other things like ubuntu with a + and see what happens09:36
bwlangveryfunny: gmane.com09:36
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ompaulveryfunny, if you join that list be aware that it is very very busy but that is not for bug reporting just exploring to find out if it is you or a bug09:36
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veryfunnyompaul i tried a couple searches and found nothing09:39
veryfunnyi will mail later09:39
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ompaulveryfunny, join the list send in your mail - read the others to see what the norm is for a request - then pop yours in and wait a day or so09:40
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ompaulveryfunny, nothing in 3 days go for a bugreport so you want to know if anyone has one of these working okay09:40
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{aaron}hi guys, what, if any, is the default JVM for Ubuntu...GCJ I'm guessing?09:41
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psychohi everybody !09:43
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lukus001Can somone tell me what command i need to type in the terminal to locate myself into the root directory?09:44
bwlanglukus001: cd /09:44
bwlanglukus001: or if you mean root's home dir  cd /root09:44
lukus001bwlang, perfect, Thanks!09:45
kbrooks{aaron}, yes gcj09:45
{aaron}kbrooks: thanks09:45
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xiaogilwill we have mysql 5 and PHP5 in Drapper ?09:46
poningruwhen do they finish dev?09:46
ompaulxiaogil, april09:46
ompaulxiaogil, sorry that was a don't know09:47
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ompaulponingru, april09:47
ompaulgot mixed up09:47
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poningruomaru: oh hehe I meant when do php and mysql finsih dev09:47
poningrunot dapper09:47
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lukus001Im trying to install this app http://www.3delight.com/renderman_download.htm < install intrsructions, but i get to the command "unsetenv DELIGHT" which is an unknown command...???09:48
ompaulxiaogil, watch the mailing list http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/dapper-changes09:48
BlueDevillukus001: what shell are you using?09:48
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xiaogilompaul: thanks09:48
gnomefreak<<loves bash09:48
lukus001BlueDevil just the terminal from the main menu09:48
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BlueDevillukus001: you can try replacing unsetenv with unset09:49
phudoes anyone know if KDE 3.5 is going to be backported to ubuntu 5.4?09:49
WatjeDoes anybody know if there is a program to see how much bandwith each proccess use?09:49
gnomefreakthats gnome terminal also bash i think09:49
BlueDevillukus001: unsetenv is a (t)csh command09:49
gnomefreak5.4?09:50
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lukus001BlueDevil, ok ill give it a try, thanks09:50
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Anoophi09:50
BlueDevillukus001: yw09:50
gnomefreakphu,  i doubt it09:50
poningruphu: no dont think so09:50
Anoopcan anybody help me with some ubuntu prob i am having with my laptop09:50
gearryI am trying to add the multiverse repository using the instructions from the wiki, but they don't seem accurate09:50
Kyralshoot09:50
Kyralgearry: look in the /etc/apt/sources.list09:50
gnomefreakphu,  maybe if lucky they will backport it for 5.10 but also doubt it09:50
Anoopkyral u want to09:50
SupIAmMikeSelect count(ID) as countOfBar2 FROM FOO WHERE BAR="1"; Select count(ID) as countOfBar2 FROM FOO WHERE BAR="2"09:50
gearrythe multiverse repository is not listed in my repository list09:50
BlueDevilAnoop: please state your problem09:50
phugnomefreak: 5.4 == hoary09:51
SupIAmMikecan i combine those 2 selects?09:51
gearryKyral: ok, I will look there09:51
lukus001BlueDevil, if its a Csh command, would that mean the enxt command "source .3delight_csh" isnt gonna work?09:51
Kyralgearry: add it onto the lines that say universe09:51
phuit's already ported to 5.1009:51
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gnomefreakphu,  yes i know09:51
Anoopok...i installed breezy badger(5.10) in my toshiba m45-S355 laptop09:51
Ishotwebcan someone help me out? trying to run a program with Wine and it's telling me "Application tries to create a window, but no driver could be loaded."09:51
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SeveasSupIAmMike, WHERE BAR = "1" OR BAR = "2"09:51
BlueDevillukus001: source is a valid bash command too09:51
gnomefreakphu, kde 3.5 isnt on breezy09:51
SeveasSupIAmMike, but highly offtopic in here09:51
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SupIAmMikeSeveas, but that will just give me 1 count of that09:51
Anoopwhat happend is while installed the dhcp couldn't configure my networking thing09:52
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SupIAmMikeit wont give me the counts seperately09:52
NeurosisI need help finding my root password for my ubuntu machine.  i havent been able to login to it since i have installed it09:52
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BlueDevilSupIAmMike: try using join09:52
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gearryKyral: OK I will try that09:52
SupIAmMikeoh whoops im not in #mysql09:52
SupIAmMikesorry i will leave09:52
BlueDevilNeurosis: sudo passwd root09:52
Anoopbut when the installation was over and i activated both ethernet card and wireless both started working09:52
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Kyrallol SupIAmMike09:52
phuhttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php09:52
gnomefreakphu,  i pretty sure they stopped backporting things for 5.0409:52
Anoopblue devil r u tracking my message?09:53
lukus001BlueDevil, thanks for the help =)09:53
Neurosisthank you very much blue09:53
krayziehy yall09:53
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phuso, yes, it's available for breezy09:53
BlueDevilAnoop: hold on, trying :)09:53
krayzieim new 2 this thing and i need some help pls09:53
Anoopk09:53
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Anoopi see u r in demand09:53
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BlueDevilAnoop: up to date :)09:54
krayziei have a sb live 24 bit and i cant hear the sound09:54
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gnomefreakphu, its avilable for kubuntu breezy not sure if for ubuntu breezy asnd if it was backported for ubuntu 5.10 thaqn 5.045 more than likely wont get it09:54
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krayziecan sum1 help me_09:54
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Anoopafter the first reboot everything gets messed up and the during the boot process it gets stuck in config network interface09:54
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BlueDevilAnoop: however it should have been able to detect the nics on install if it detected them after the install was finished...09:54
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SWAThow can I burn a DVD with 1 file of 4GB? (so probably use UDF). K3b won't work (it can't 'add' the file, because it's too big...) Help?09:54
Anoopand then when i log in thats it nothing works09:54
Anoopi tried reinstalling and same old thing09:55
gismo1hi, i've problems with playing an avi-video-file with totem, he says something like: 'could not determine the type of the data stream'.. i installed all needed plugins.. :(09:55
Anoopworks for the first time then gone09:55
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funktownSWAT -- 4GB is way too big for a dvd file on cd.. try to lower the quality and encoding a tad09:55
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Anoopi don't know why it can't configure while installing09:55
BlueDevilAnoop: please "cat /etc/network/interfaces" in a query to me09:55
SWATfunktown, I'm using DVD's atm (so it's fine)09:55
Anoophold on09:56
gismo1can anyone help me?09:56
funktownooh.. i always put them on cds.. im cheap =P09:56
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borSWAT: use mkisofs with -udf option09:56
SWATDVD are cheaper (if you calculate price per GB)09:56
noenhi - can anybody explain how I can install programs on my new ubuntu system (I am a total linux newbee)09:56
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chrisx1how do i change time usin ubuntu timeserver in terminal?09:56
Mazingo to the synaptic package manager09:56
SWATbor, thanks, I'll give it a try. Then burn with dvdrecord?09:56
Kyralchrisx1: youmean NTP?09:56
phoulHey im trying to get gtkgnutella working09:56
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gnomefreaknoen, use synaptic package manager09:56
Mazinto install progs, should be in the toolbar at top09:56
phoulBut when i search up something nothing happens09:56
borSWAT: yepp09:56
phoulany ideas?09:56
chrisx1Kyral, Yes09:56
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Kyralchrisx1: sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com09:57
funktownphout.. make sure you're connected09:57
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phoulHow?09:57
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Mazinnoen, then search for progs and mark them for download09:57
borSWAT: somelike easier is 'growisofs'09:57
chrisx1ty09:57
Anoopmapping hotplug script grep map eth0 iface lo inet loopback iface eth0 inet dhcp auto lo auto eth009:57
funktownsee the bar on the left side of the interface? labelled "Connections" ?09:57
phoulohh funktown in the bottom left it shows im connected09:57
Anoopblue for the time being i have disabled the wireless thing09:57
phoulAny other ideas?09:57
Anoopi want the ethernet to work first09:57
borSWAT: you need only to do growisofs -Z /dev/dvd -dvd-video /path/to/file09:57
noenok one moment Ill try that09:57
Anoopand i am at my work place09:57
funktownphoul.. when you search, make sure you click your query in the search box to view the results09:57
gismo1here's the output when i'm starting it with mplayer http://freebsd6.homeunix.org/~kacper/output09:57
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Anoopit has secured wireless which i have no access09:58
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boreh, s,dvd-vide,udf, of course09:58
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Anoopjust 30mins before i worked then one reboot everything gone09:58
phoulDid that to funk09:58
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BlueDevilanoop: ifconfig eth0 in a pm09:58
phoulin the top right09:58
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phoulIt says09:58
phoulYou appear to be firewalled or somethin09:58
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Techie_dudeHow do i open a program in WIne?09:59
neighborleehi..has anyone tried the livecd/installer and found getting livecd enviornment was a vvvvery long boot ?? ( want to make sure its not my cdrom drive)09:59
noenmazin -  I am looking for a pgp version .... no search results09:59
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Anoopblue i have only one internet connection now09:59
oggahHello, I got breezy installed (standardinstall) and later icewm installed. How do I change resolution in IceWM?09:59
BlueDevilneighborlee: yes, it's a long process09:59
funktownphoul > try to disable your firewall09:59
Anoopso i can't ifconfig now09:59
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phoulFunk how do i disable the wirewall09:59
neighborleeBlueDevil, ok thx for verify09:59
Anoopr u from america?09:59
BlueDevilneighborlee: yw09:59
phoulThe only one im awear i have is on my router and i would need to open a port you cant disbale it09:59
Anoopi will connect in the evening from home09:59
funktownphoul > no idea, depends on which one you're running.. or if its a hardware device09:59
Anoopand i can do what u want09:59
ortnerAnyone knows a good alternative to macromedia dreamwave for linux?10:00
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Anoopi am really desperate now10:00
Anoopi need ur help10:00
BlueDevilAnoop: why can't you show me ifconfig output?10:00
funktownphoul > try telling gtk-gnutella to use that port.. the option should be somewhere in the preferences10:00
Anoopk10:00
phoulfunk like on suse i got limewire running10:00
Anoophold on10:00
Techie_dudeHow do  i open a program in wine?10:00
oggahAnyone knows how to change resolution in iceWM?10:00
Anoopi am in a diff computer blue10:00
KyralTechie_dude: wine <path to exe>10:00
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oggahI want 1024, because the refreshrate is high then.10:00
Anoopi have to type a lot10:00
funktownortner > try nvu10:00
navaronephoul...you can enable pseudo udp node as well10:00
Kyraloggah: you have to do it in Xorg.conf10:00
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Techie_dudedo i need to use sudo10:00
KyralI think10:00
BlueDevilortner: try quanta10:00
KyralTechie_dude: I don;t think so10:01
BlueDevilAnoop: can't paste?10:01
oggahKyral, I guess so. What should I change?10:01
phoulnavarone, how do i do that?10:01
ortnerBlueDevil: , funktown thanks :)10:01
Anooptwo diff computers10:01
phouland what will it do10:01
Kyraloggah: what do you want to do?10:01
navaronephoul>should be a check box on Gnutella-net tab10:01
BlueDevilAnoop: ah, sorry10:01
Anooplet me type10:01
BlueDevilAnoop: then just check if the nic has an address assigned to it10:01
Anooplink encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:A0:D1:24:A3:1710:01
oggahKyral, the resolution is right now 1280x1024, but I want 1024x768.10:01
navaronephoul>enable udp...I have it enabled and use deafult firewall settings no prob10:02
Kyraloggah: I'd disable the higher res10:02
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Kyraleither way you are going to have to edit Xorg.conf10:02
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Anoopinet6 addr: fe80::2a0:d1ff:fe24:a317/64 scope:link10:02
phoulnavarone,  its enabled....10:02
oggahJust remove them from the Subsection "Display" ?10:02
phoulBut i still see no  results10:02
Kyral...or that10:02
Anoopblue it gets assigned the time its working10:02
navaronephoul try restarting gnutella now10:02
Anoopafter the reboot everything gone10:02
Anoopthats the most weired part10:02
noen@ menzin ???10:03
Anoophow can it work for once that means the drivers are installed correctly10:03
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phoulnope nothing10:03
Anoopbut i don't know what goes on during reboot?????10:03
phoulStill no search results10:03
Mazinoh, sorry noen10:03
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MazinI'm not sure, but PGP might not be in the UBuntu repositories10:03
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ortnerBlueDevil: what was the name of the program agian?10:03
navaronephoul...how many ultrapeers are you connected to?10:04
phoulnavarone, still nothing10:04
chrisx1How Do I Get Modules From Perl?10:04
noenso I have to download it manualy10:04
phoulultrapeers?10:04
SWATbor, why do I need to use the -dvd-video tag?10:04
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phoulwhat do you mean10:04
Mazinyou'll either have to add a repository, dl the rpm, or compile it from source10:04
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Mazinwait, i assume you mean GPG10:04
BlueDevilortner: quanta10:04
oggahKyral, thanks. Got 1024 right now :) How do I change refreshrate?10:04
Anoopblue r u there?10:04
navaronephoul> In Gnuterlla tab...how many connections does it say...at left...?10:05
BlueDevilAnoop: yes, heavily multitasking :)10:05
Anoopsorry i see ur posting now10:05
Anoopi know10:05
Anoopu r the man10:05
phoulnavarone, what tab...10:05
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borSWAT: well, that was wrong, you need -udf instead, of course, sorry :)10:05
Kyraloggah: it should be somewhere in Xorg.conf10:05
navaronephoul...be adventurous and try looking10:05
Kyralthe Horiz10:05
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borgrowisofs takes mkisofs arguments10:05
BlueDevilAnoop: lemme get this right: you're saying that sometimes it works and after a reboot it doesn't?10:05
SWATbor, no problemo, just clearing some space to make the image. If it works.... I'll let you know :)10:05
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bor(after its options)10:05
Anoopexactly10:05
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phoulnava the hostcache?10:05
mangoHi gays, I am trying to find out the driver for my wireless card for a hp "compaq nx6110". Windows xp does not day much apart that it is a  Broadcom Intel /wireless card ...could any help me please?10:05
noenno PGP : pretty good privacy10:05
phoulor the gnutellanet thing10:06
Anoopand that sometimes is very very few times10:06
borSWAT: that's a good point to use growisofs, because it writes the images on-the-fly10:06
Anoopi mean once in bluemoon it works10:06
Kyralmango: I think you need to use NDiswrapper10:06
Anoopthen one reboot gone10:06
smmorning all.. how do I unfuk gnome(?) when the mouse pointer gets stuck as the + sign in a text widget ?10:06
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borSWAT: so you don't need to care about space :)10:06
Anoopit def works right after the first installation10:06
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oggahseems a bit strange to me. running breezy on a amd athlon 1,4ghz. 512mb ram. doing a "free -m" shows 393mb used! 110mb free.10:06
phoulnavarone,10:06
smpresently I have to restart x which is a pain in the ass10:06
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MazinPGP is commercialware ain't it?10:07
navaronephoul...near bottom left...it say connections and upload download...how many connections do you have currently?10:07
noenyeah but there a defenitly open versions....10:07
phoul0/3 connections10:07
mjrMazin, yes; see gpg for a free replacement10:07
Mazinthat's what i thought, so it wouldn't be in the ubuntu repositories10:07
Anoophas anybody else tracked my messages?10:07
BlueDevilAnoop: that's weird10:07
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navaroneThen phoul you are not going to get search results if you are not on network10:07
Anoopexactly10:07
Mazinwill GPG work for you noen?10:07
phoulwell umm10:07
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phoulHow do i get on a network10:07
ubun-newbiehello anyone in ehre how do i start awk10:08
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Anoopblue what possibly can be wrong?10:08
navaronephoul...Setting/Preferences/Network tab...enable udp10:08
noenyes sure... as long as its works: I want encryption ;)10:08
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BlueDevilAnoop: I suggest you to grab the output of ifconfig, lsmod and dmesg when it's working10:09
phoulits already on navarone10:09
Mazinlook for GPG in synaptic then, and mark it for DL10:09
Mazinthen "apply changes"10:09
Anoopi am new to linux10:09
BlueDevilAnoop: and compare to the output of those commands when it's not working10:09
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Anoopso can u pl be detail abt what i should do10:09
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phoulnava its on lol10:09
Anoopk10:09
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phoulit was already on10:09
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Anoopr u in this chat most of the time10:10
BlueDevilAnoop: my *wild* guess is that the hardware is detected properly but it can't aquire an ip address via DHCP10:10
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noeninteresting: it is already installed..... I dont understand that10:10
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mangoKyral: I found only the source on synaptic...is it only what I need10:10
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Anoopu r 100% right10:10
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jendaHey, do you know how to install a VooDoo?10:10
mango??10:10
Anoopthats what exactly i think10:10
Anoopbut don't know how to fix it10:10
Kyralmango: NDiswrapper-utils10:10
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jupphow can i use php5 with apache? I installed apache and php510:10
Anoopwhats the reason blue?10:10
nopleasehi@all10:10
BlueDevilAnoop: for a more precise guess I would need more debugging output10:10
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phoulnavarone,10:11
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oggahhow do you define the "etc" directory?10:11
oggahin linuxsystems10:11
Kyraldefine?10:11
phoulIts already on10:11
BlueDevilAnoop: the causes can be multiple10:11
phoulAny other ideas10:11
Anoopu mean the output of ifconfig10:11
noenthe package is called: libgpg-error= ....I dont think thats what I want anyway10:11
BlueDevilAnoop: ifconfig, dmesg10:11
navaronephoul if you are not connecting to any peers you may have to look at the settings and see what looks out of whack...maybe make sure you are allowing surplus bandwidth or something else that is interfering10:11
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phoulnava i looked through the settings already10:11
oggahyeah define.10:11
BlueDevilAnoop: you might look in /var/log/messages for anything out of the ordinary10:11
phouleverything looks fine10:11
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phoulgod damn do i miss limewire10:12
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Anoopblue: how can i paste the messages from another machine?10:12
Anoopany idea?10:12
xiaogilwhat can i do when changes in the file /etc/fonts/fonts.conf are not taken into account ?10:12
oggahAnyone could give me a url with info bout ubuntus different directories? "etc", "var", "lib" etc.10:12
Kyraloggah: those are standard Linux dirs10:13
BlueDevilAnoop: without a network? :) take pictures :)10:13
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oggahwhat is by default put in these directories?10:13
OceansblueTry Debian site docs for directories10:13
navaronephoul...is peer mode on automatic in setting?10:13
BlueDevilAnoop: or use a serial consone :-/10:13
Anoopfrustrating!!!10:13
phoulnavarone, peermode?10:13
phoulwheres that10:13
BlueDevils/consone/console/10:13
navaroneIn settings10:13
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Anoopdon't know what is a serial consone10:13
phoulyeah autos on10:14
BlueDevilAnoop: console10:14
navaroneSetting/Pref/gnutella-net10:14
phoulyeah its on10:14
OceansblueA text console running from a serial port10:14
jgrievesdoes anyone work X a lot here10:14
BlueDeviljgrieves: ?10:14
navaronephoul...Setting/Pref/Bandwidth/Use surplus...?10:14
phoulYup10:14
Oceansbluewhat is the X ?10:14
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jgrievesis it Xfixes extension which works with cursor changing on the fly?10:15
mangoKyral: I installed everything....do I download the windows driver for the wireless card and install it thoriugh ndiswrapper  ow?10:15
Kyrallol Oceansblue10:15
Kyralmango: does it work?10:15
navaronephoul...I have no idea...maybe you are using router and need to forward ports10:15
jgrievesor is it render10:15
phoulIm on a router nava10:15
phoulI just dont know how to use it10:15
phoulDlink10:15
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navaroneno idea either...not suing one10:15
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phoulanyone know how to access a dlink router10:16
phoulIts a set up numbers into the browser i know that much...10:16
Ishotwebif my echo $DISPLAY gives me  :0.010:16
Ishotweb  is that normal10:16
BlueDeviljgrieves: i have RENDER enabled10:16
navaronephoul needs help forwarding port for gnutella-gtk to connect10:16
mangoKyral: I just installed the ndiswrapper. I asked you weather to download the windows drivers now?10:16
BlueDevilIshotweb: yes10:16
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Ishotwebbluedevil : okay thanks10:17
BlueDevilIshotweb: if you switch to the second desktop, it would echo :0.110:17
jgrievesBlueDevil do you know if render allows cursors to change on the fly10:17
Oceansbluemsg mango You can use the windows driver10:17
Kyralmango: yes you need the .sys and .ini10:17
Oceansbluethe sys and inf10:17
jgrievesBlueDevil trying to figure out which extensions corresponds to xcursorgen function...i.e cursors created for X which extension uses that10:17
Kyralsame thing!10:17
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BlueDevilIshotweb: disregard my second remark, it false10:18
mangoKyral: wait , I will download it first than get back to you.10:18
BlueDeviljgrieves: no, i do not know if render is responsible for that10:18
jgrievesok10:18
Ishotwebbluedevil : hah okay i will10:18
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Ishotwebdoes anyone know what could cause this Application tries to create a window, but no driver could be loaded. Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly. then?10:19
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jc-dentonhttp://news.netcraft.com/archives/2005/12/05/strong_growth_for_debian.html10:20
jc-dentoni ask myself if this is because of ubuntu10:20
jc-dentonbut how can i verify10:20
SWATbor, it didn't work10:20
SWATbor, because even mkisofs -udf says: Vlaue too large for defined data type (the file is just too large - ignoring)10:21
trappistjc-denton: if it gets the distro from the webserver's version string, then no.  ubuntu's apache identifies itself as such.10:21
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BlueDeviltrappist: probably doing so10:22
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BlueDevilbesides, ubuntu's big market share is on desktop not server10:22
trappistBlueDevil: now that I think of it, I'm certain it is.  that's how I got it to think I was running IIS on linux for a while :)10:22
BlueDeviltrappist: lol :)10:23
trappisthttp://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http://linuxkungfu.org10:23
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trappistbegone, flooder.10:24
BlueDeviltrappist: try Apache on SymbianOS :)10:24
jc-dentonah10:24
BlueDevilthat'd be the day when someone notices that at MS10:24
jc-dentonbut then why should debian grow so much10:24
jc-dentoni mean ubuntu offers commercial support for the server10:24
jc-dentonthat would be an argument10:24
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BlueDeviljc-denton: it sais that's prolly because deb 3.1 was released in july10:25
trappistjc-denton: debian offers extreme stability that can only come with painfully ancient packages, and server people tend to like that10:25
jc-dentonlol10:25
jc-dentona very good security team10:25
jc-dentonand much commercial support10:25
trappistthat too10:25
jc-dentonno that not10:25
jc-dentonthe security team is not even paid afaik10:26
trappisttherefore they suck?10:26
jendaThe teams aren't paid10:26
jc-dentonand commercial support, there is only progeny which i know10:26
jendaAnd no, they don't suck.10:26
jc-dentontrappist: well the team is basically joey hess10:26
BlueDevilheh, I'm paid and I suck :D10:26
jc-dentonwho does a very good job10:26
Anoopblue i have both ifconfig and dmesg copied10:26
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jc-dentonbut he's not paid10:27
Anoopif u want i can paste now10:27
jendaLinux as a whole has been created voluntarily :) - thank you BlueDevil :)10:27
borSWAT: hm, strange, -dvd-video uses UDF too and that should work (haven't used it yet, but read it).  you could try to use this option instead of -udf, but I don't know if your data is readable.  if you finished the mkisofs procedure, just try to mount it loopback10:27
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ddew|bofhAny ppc64 users around?10:27
ddew|bofh@10:27
jc-dentonwell i guess redhat ist popular because of the commercial support and stuff10:27
BlueDeviltrappist: i'm a product/project manager :P10:27
jc-dentondebian does not have that10:27
jc-dentonbut ubuntu10:27
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Anoopblue: did u get my message?10:27
jc-dentonso it would be likely that the growth is caused by ubuntu10:27
BlueDevilAnoop: please don't paste in channel10:28
Anoopk10:28
Anoopemail?10:28
BlueDevilAnoop: paste in pm/query10:28
jc-dentoni also see ubuntu nowhere on the chart of netcraft10:28
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Anoopwhere is pm/query?10:28
navaronewhat's netcraft?10:28
SWATbor, same error. Value too large, ignoring10:28
BlueDeviljc-denton: what's your point?10:28
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BlueDevilAnoop: pm=private message10:28
navaroneAnoop /msg <nick>10:29
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ddew|bofhI'm having problems with the ppc install-cds, anyone care to clue me in on who to contact or where I can get assistance?10:29
BlueDevilAnoop: /query <nick>10:29
jc-dentonBlueDevil: i'm intrested why they grew so much10:29
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mangoKyral: I found 2 drivers the 2100, and the 2200 which one do I picK?10:29
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Anoopso i paste here as pm/query10:29
BlueDevilAnoop signed off (Excess flood) :)10:30
Ishotwebah i figured out my problem... i need to get the X development files, at least xlib/xfree86 devel packages10:30
ompaulThis would be how I would use it >>/msg anoop this is not a query it is a message10:30
BlueDevilAnoop: yes, you can paste in a query10:30
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FlimFlamManfrom the breezy livecd, i'm trying to resize an ntfs partition with gparted, but it keeps failing.  command-line output says /dev/hdc is read-only (cdrom) and "unable to open /dev/mapper/casper-cow", whatever that is...  is there no way to resize this ntfs partition so i can install breezy?10:30
Techie_dude...um...i got this error when trying to use wine  rr:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"Z:\\home\\Dorgem\\Dorgem.exe" failed, status c000013510:31
Anooppm/query/ [LNKD]  -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 1110:31
Anoop[4294669.654000]  ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:00:1f.2 disabled10:31
Anoop[4294669.654000]  ahci: probe of 0000:00:1f.2 failed with error -1210:31
Anoop[4294669.655000]  ata_piix version 1.0310:31
Anoop[4294669.655000]  ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1f.2[B]  -> Link [LNKD]  -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 1110:31
Anoop[4294669.655000]  PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1f.2 to 6410:31
Anoop[4294669.655000]  ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x1F0 ctl 0x3F6 bmdma 0x1100 irq 1410:31
Anoop[4294669.809000]  ata1: dev 0 cfg 49:2f00 82:746b 83:7d09 84:6023 85:7468 86:3c09 87:6023 88:203f10:31
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Anoop[4294669.809000]  ata1: dev 0 ATA, max UDMA/100, 195371568 sectors: lba4810:31
Anoop[4294669.809000]  ata1(0): applying bridge limits10:31
Anoop[4294669.809000]  ata1: dev 0 configured for UDMA/10010:31
Anoop[4294669.809000]  scsi0 : ata_piix10:31
ompaulAnoop, please dont do that10:31
Anoop[4294669.809000]    Vendor: ATA       Model: TOSHIBA MK1032GA  Rev: AB2110:31
Anoop[4294669.809000]    Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 0510:31
BlueDevilstop :)10:31
Anoop[4294669.809000]  ata2: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x170 ctl 0x376 bmdma 0x1108 irq 1510:31
Anoop[4294670.117000]  ata2: dev 0 cfg 49:0f00 82:0000 83:0000 84:0000 85:0000 86:0000 87:0000 88:040710:31
BlueDevilomg ;)10:31
Anoop[4294670.117000]  ata2: dev 0 ATAPI, max UDMA/3310:31
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Anoop[4294670.117000]  ata2(0): applying bridge limits10:31
Anoop[4294670.117000]  ata2: dev 0 configured for UDMA/3310:31
borSWAT: darn, another solution would be to burn it as raw data (i.e. tar cvpf - -C /path/to/image/dir file | growisofs -Z /dev/dvd=proc/self/fd/0)10:31
Anoop[4294670.117000]  scsi1 : ata_piix10:31
ompaulpaste = paste.ubuntulinux.nl10:31
Anoop[4294670.119000]    Vendor: MATSHITA  Model: DVD-RAM UJ-831S   Rev: 1.4010:31
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Anoop[4294670.119000]    Type:   CD-ROM                             ANSI SCSI revision: 0510:31
navaroneuh oh10:31
Anoop[4294670.135000]  Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00alpha210:31
Anoop[4294670.135000]  ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx10:31
Anoop[4294670.135000]  ACPI: bus type ide registered10:31
Anoop[4294670.136000]  ide0: I/O resource 0x1F0-0x1F7 not free.10:31
Anoop[4294670.136000]  ide0: ports already in use, skipping probe10:31
Anoop[4294670.136000]  ide1: I/O resource 0x170-0x177 not free.10:32
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Anoop[4294670.136000]  ide1: ports already in use, skipping probe10:32
Anoop[4294670.136000]  Probing IDE interface ide2...10:32
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borSWAT: but you won't be able to mount it and must know that the data is kept raw on the DVD10:32
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FlimFlamManok...10:32
FlimFlamManfrom the breezy livecd, i'm trying to resize an ntfs partition with gparted, but it keeps failing.  command-line output says /dev/hdc is read-only (cdrom) and "unable to open /dev/mapper/casper-cow", whatever that is...  is there no way to resize this ntfs partition so i can install breezy?10:32
ompaulAnoop,  paste = paste.ubuntulinux.nl10:32
Techie_dudei got this error when trying to run wine rr:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"Z:\\home\\Dorgem\\Dorgem.exe" failed, status c000013510:32
BlueDevildamn, I even opened a query and said "paste here"10:32
funktownFlimFlamMan.. i dont think you can write any changes to an ntfs filesystem10:32
ompaulAnoop,  a little know very useful url10:32
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Techie_dudedoes anyone know what that error meant?10:33
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navaroneFlimFlamMan, writing ntfs can corrupt filedystem10:33
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owner989hey do you guys think i will be able to get a usb wireless adapter to work with ubuntu10:33
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SWATbor, hmmmz....... that's evil. ATM looking for another solution10:33
owner989im installing ubuntu on another computer right now10:33
trappistyou can resize ntfs.  that's not the same as writing to it.10:33
BlueDevilAnoop: nothing from the paste is useful10:33
ompaulTechie_dude, looks to me like the error is an exe error10:33
owner989but the autoconf didnt detect the network10:33
Techie_dudeokay10:34
BlueDevilAnoop: and in the future when I say paste here, please do so10:34
FlimFlamManfunktown, "Jan 17, 2005  A new, actively developed, free graphical partitioner arrived, called GParted. Its name stands for Gnome Partition Editor and it's one of the most feature rich  partitioners in the world by supporting ext2, ext3, JFS, Reiserfs, XFS, NTFS, FAT16, FAT32 and the HFS filesystems. GParted is using ntfsresize internally for safe NTFS resizing."10:34
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borSWAT: you could use rar to make an archive splitted into volumes with maxsize of 2 GB :)10:34
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Techie_dudecould it work with a zip file?10:34
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trappistFlimFlamMan: it looks like it's trying to resize your cdrom drive?10:34
BlueDevilAnoop: if you did, the text would have ended up in my query not in the channel10:34
SWATbor, come on :P I just want to burn it normally. Just browsing google with the current error10:34
Anoopfirst i made a mistake10:34
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ompaulTechie_dude, could what work - that is a little kinda vague10:35
Anoopi didn't understand10:35
FlimFlamMantrappist, i don't know if that error is a direct indication that it's trying to resize the cdrom or not...10:35
Anoopthen i did it right10:35
Techie_dudewill wine work with a .zip file....sorry10:35
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BlueDevilAnoop: i still can't see any text in the query10:35
trappistFlimFlamMan: you should be able to resize it from the ubuntu installer10:35
BlueDevilAnoop: what client are you using?10:35
Anoopwhy?10:35
ompaulTechie_dude, why would you want wine to work with it - just double click on it and it will be unzipped for you10:35
Anoopxchat10:35
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trappistFlimFlamMan: assuming you've defragged10:35
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Techie_dudeno i mean a windoes .zip filee10:36
Anoopblue:is xchat good or not10:36
ompaulTechie_dude, zip is a format10:36
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alistair_Prob off topic but the ubuntu certification? is there any plans to provide some kinda training manual? and not just an exam?10:36
FlimFlamMantrappist, i defragged but it just made files contiguous, there are still files spread across the drive.  this is an xp laptop10:36
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BlueDevilAnoop: if you right click on a nickname there should be an entry "Query"10:36
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williamHow do I get Ubuntu to access Debian's apt servers instead of its own?10:36
Techie_dudei know how to fix the pasting  problem in xchat....... type something like this before pasting....... this is the error i got...then paste after that message and it wont do taht10:36
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ompaulTechie_dude, ehh no if you have lots of data use paste.ubuntulinux.nl10:37
battlecatHi I am on dial-up and I would like to know if there is an update feature like there is when I use the ethernet cable at the office?10:37
BlueDevilwilliam: man sources.list10:37
Techie_dudeah....10:37
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trappistFlimFlamMan: you might have better luck defragging in save mode.  if there are files near the end of the partition ntfsresize will only work to the end of those files10:37
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ctcecilHow's everyone10:37
Anoopblue: there is no enter query in right click option10:37
trappist*safe mode10:37
Ishotwebokay so if i have to install a package called XFree86-devel how can i go about finding this package to install it? apt-get install XFree86-devel can't find it10:37
williamWhat is the Debian server?10:37
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trappistIshotweb: why do you think you need to install that?10:38
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ompaulwilliam, you do that to break your ubuntu10:38
williamI just want to install more apps10:38
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williamI don't even see game being listed10:39
Ishotwebtrappist: i need to compile wine, and wine's telling me that i need that package to build it with X support10:39
BlueDevilIshotweb: apt-cache search10:39
sunsun_hi how do i install lame to encode mp3?10:39
ompaulwilliam, so add a few repos to synaptic and you can have up to 17500 in breezy10:39
mysyfy_i'm trying to compile the kernel modules for running vmware.....during the installation i received this error10:39
trappistwilliam: debian packages are not binary-compatible with ubuntu10:39
mysyfy_gcc-3.4: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1plus': File not found10:39
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williamWhere is the list file anyways?10:39
TTilusI burned data DVD with couple of 1+Gb files.  It works fine on the machine it was burned and on an old Win XP laptop (IBM 600X).  Another Linux box having same make and age DVD drive (than the one used for burning) shows only 5-11Mb files, otherwise things work.  Any suggestions what eats up the file tails?10:39
sunsun_hi how do i install lame to encode mp3 using command line?10:39
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trappistIshotweb: try xserver-xorg-dev10:39
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_seatouchhey10:40
williamYou can download Lame from Apt10:40
BlueDevilAnoop: check for a tab in xchat having my nick as the title10:40
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jsteidlsunsun_: you mean like "apt-get"  or the console-interface?10:40
mysyfy_before running the installation i did export CC=gcc-3.4 as is the same version of my gcc for the kernel compilation10:40
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seatouchcan anyone tell me the command to install build-essential ?10:40
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borSWAT: if you find a way, please let me know :).  I thought the UDF-way should work, but obviously  this isn't the case10:40
AnoopYES10:40
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lightbrighthey hey10:40
sunsun_yah i  cant figure out what package has lame to encode mp3 using command line10:40
Ishotwebtrappist: it can't find that either10:40
ompaulwilliam, are you reading what I am saying to you? - you don't use debian repos for ubuntu - you will break your system - you add more repos - check out synaptic:: system - administration - syanptic package manager and in there you add more repos10:40
AnoopI already see that blue10:40
zAo^how do I change the number of scroll lines (mouse)10:40
mycketwilliam, you can add community packages in synaptic.10:40
jsteidlseatouch: sudo apt-get install build-essential10:40
mysyfy_i already have the g++ packages...10:40
TTilussunsun_: sudo aptitude install [the packages you want] 10:40
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BlueDevilAnoop: click on it, that's the query from me10:41
sunsun_lame is a virtual package so it doesnt install10:41
TTilussunsun_: or better yet, just sudo aptitude, and use the console interface to browse and select packages10:41
BlueDevilAnoop: and respond there10:41
Anoopi have already responded 3-4 lines10:41
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mysyfy_but i don't know if i have to have the g++ packages for the same version of the CC that i export10:41
BlueDevilAnoop: i didn't receive anything10:41
trappistmysyfy_: ls -l `which g++`10:42
sunsun_hi which package has the command line "lame" mp3 encoder?10:42
TTilussunsun_: packages.ubuntu.com10:42
seatouchcan anyone tell me where the root terminal is located ?10:42
Anoopcan't do anything10:42
TTilussunsun_: search there10:42
Anoopi can see ur mesg10:42
TTilusseatouch: use sudo10:42
seatouchrite10:42
chrisx1!tell seatouch about root10:42
Anoopcan i send the file10:42
Anoopi have it as file10:42
sunsun_it says lame is in the "multiverse"10:42
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Anoopblue i have an option called send file10:42
mysyfy_trappist, /usr/bin/g++ -> g++-4.010:43
ompaulwilliam, read this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto10:43
MagicFabHello10:43
ompaulchrisx1, the bot is missing10:43
sunsun_how do i put multiverse into sources.list?  what is the actual line?10:43
chrisx1:o10:43
jsteidlsunsun_: i have installed lame (its in universe/multiverse) and it worls fine in the console.10:43
chrisx1Why?10:43
BlueDevilAnoop: try sending the file10:43
jsteidlsunsun_: deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted universe multiverse10:44
MagicFabI'd like to know if FreeNX is really free (libre) ?10:44
ompaulseatouch read this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SudoRoot10:44
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BlueDevilsunsun_: replace "de" with your country code10:44
sunsun_ok thanks a lot everyone.10:44
TTilusMagicFab: search licence10:44
mysyfy_trappist, it's right version of g++ for gcc-3.4 ?10:44
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jsteidlsunsun_: do a 'apt-get update' after editing /etc/apt/sources.list10:45
JyZ|hey10:45
peadotre10:45
MagicFabAlthough http://freenx.berlios.de/ sure looks like it is, I don't find it in any U. repos10:45
TTilusMagicFab: this http://freenx.berlios.de/ ?10:45
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JyZ|where do i put Broken package filter on ?10:45
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BlueDevilMagicFab: Seveas has it in his repo for x8610:45
trappistmysyfy_: no, you want g++-3.410:45
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justin__#ht10:45
Anoopblue it says its waiting10:45
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BlueDevilAnoop: i didn't get a notification...10:45
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lawrencetrappist, why not gcc 4.0?10:46
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goyaveshello all10:46
jsteidlJyZ|: use synaptic and select custom instead of sections10:46
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lawrencetrappist, I hear that gentoo made the switch10:46
TTilusMagicFab: http://openfacts.berlios.de/index-en.phtml?title=FreeNX_FAQ/General10:46
trappistlawrence: he's using gcc 3.4 and is trying to match his g++ to it10:46
goyavesI want to know if there are people here from Africa ?10:46
mysyfy_trappist, hmm right....after install it i have to export something too ... like CC?10:46
lawrencetrappist, oh ok10:46
Necrocide&j #gnome10:46
trappistlawrence: so did ubuntu10:46
goyavesanyone here from Africa ?10:46
MagicFabBlueDevil: yes, saw that. But why isn't it into ubuntu repositories (too recent) ? How can I find out if it'sbeen considered for addition ?10:46
trappistmysyfy_: I'm not sure, I usually just change my symlinks10:46
lawrencetrappist, I know...but the compiler plays a greater role in gentoo10:46
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lawrenceso they'd most likely have a relatively conservative policy on updating it10:47
goyavesanyone here from Africa ?10:47
goyavesanyone here from Africa ?10:47
goyavesplease10:47
lawrenceNope10:47
BlueDevilMagicFab: don't know why it isn't in ubuntu repos10:47
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mysyfy_trappist, ok...tks u...i'll do that.. :)10:47
trappistlawrence: gentoo doesn't have a conservative policy about anything.  newer==better, especially with compilers.10:47
jsteidltrappist: not if it breaks everything ;)10:48
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jsteidlthats why there is breakmygentoo.net10:48
lawrenceyeah10:48
trappistjsteidl: you're preaching to the choir10:48
Anoopblue: do u see anything on query window10:48
Anoopwhat client r u using?10:48
Anoopxchat is good or not?10:48
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trappistxchat is fine10:48
chrisx1xchat == best10:48
chrisx1:P10:48
trappistreal men use irssi though10:48
LMX2xchat is the best irc client i know10:48
lawrencexchat is a demonspawn succubus from hell10:48
BlueDevilAnoop: i don't see anything in query window from you10:49
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Anoopthats weird10:49
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jsteidlAnoop: try it on another person (i volunteer ;))10:49
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Anoopthanks10:49
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BlueDevilAnoop: i'm using Konv since it comes with kubuntu-destop and I'm lazy10:49
JyZ|IS THERE ANY VIRUS SPYWARE OR MALWARE TO UBUNTU ?10:49
JyZ|can u hack ubuntu?10:49
jsteidlJyZ|: can you hack the world?10:50
lawrenceTheoretically, yes10:50
BlueDevilJyZ|: surely you can hack ubuntu10:50
JyZ|no10:50
Ishotwebhakk the planet!!!!!1111110:50
koof course JyZ|10:50
BlueDevilJyZ|: with a big enough hammer10:50
lawrenceJyZ|, You can hack anything10:50
JyZ|no10:50
williamWhat apt catagory is GMud under?10:50
JyZ|is it hard to hack ubuntu?10:50
lawrenceBlueDevil, lol nice10:50
JyZ|via internet?10:50
chrisx1HACK THE WORLD NOO MAN U CANT DO THAT:o10:50
Anoopjsteidl did u get a notification10:50
SWATbor, apparently I need the development version of mkisofs :-/10:50
Anoopi am trying to send a file to u10:50
chrisx1I unplug my Eth0!10:50
JyZ|do ubuntu got virus spyware ?10:50
JyZ|or overally linux10:50
jsteidlAnoop: no, i havent got any query...10:50
TTilusMagicFab: its coming http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/freenx-knx/2005-June/001358.html10:50
JyZ|?10:51
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lawrenceJyZ|, I don't think there's any known ubuntu spyware in the wild10:51
BlueDevilJyZ|: work for MS? doing research?10:51
jsteidlJyZ|: no.10:51
JyZ|no10:51
Anoopi don't see u in the tab jsteidl10:51
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JyZ|cause my web browser crash when iam on porn sites10:51
JyZ|:P10:51
jsteidlAnoop: i am trying to query you10:51
navaronelol10:51
Anoopk10:51
chrisx1anoop register ur nick10:51
goyavesplease anyone help me10:51
chrisx1so u can send pm10:51
goyavesplease anyone help me10:51
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jsteidlAnoop: reciving anything?10:51
Anoopnope10:51
chrisx1-NickServ- The nickname [anoop]  is not registered10:51
goyavesam searchin africans here10:51
BlueDevilanoop: write "/query jsteidl"10:51
jeed890seveas u therw?10:51
goyavesplease help me10:51
navaronegoyaves, what's wrong?10:51
Anoopdo i have to register10:52
JyZ|so10:52
lawrenceJyZ|, Probably because your browser knows you're a pervert and tries to change your ways through brute force.  It's trying to make you love Jesus, that's all.10:52
chrisx1/msg nickserv register "pass"10:52
JyZ|:P:P10:52
goyavesI want to know if there are any africans here ?10:52
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goyavesnavarone10:52
lawrencegoyaves, no10:52
goyaveswhere are you from10:52
goyavesam from montreal canada10:52
Anoopi am querying jstedl10:52
navaroneCanada goya...but therre are Africans living in Canada...so you never can tell10:52
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jeed890this is not chatty chat chat idiot its technical support10:52
JyZ|lawrence, u know any Emulator Free one ? maybie working with Counter-Strike ?10:52
lightbrightnavarone: interesting10:52
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navaronehow so lightbright ?10:53
jeed890seveas ?????????/10:53
jsteidlAnoop: you seem to have some sort of problem... but it works on my side to other clients.10:53
lawrenceJyZ|, Cedega? It's not free10:53
jc-dentoni noticed that the permission changed after updating fuse-utils on Breezy10:53
BlueDevilhuh?! cedega isn't free? :-/10:53
lightbrightnavarone: interesting what you said10:53
jc-denton< root@nx7010:~ # ls -l `which fusermount`10:53
jc-denton-rwsr-xr--  1 root fuse 17208 Dec  1 12:17 /usr/bin/fusermount10:53
Anoopi have xchat10:53
JyZ|ye10:53
JyZ|lawrence, but u know any FREE ones10:53
Anoopshould i change10:53
lawrenceJyZ|, Maybe someone has gotten wine to work w/ CS, I don't know10:53
lawrenceVanilla wine works w/ WoW10:53
JyZ|lawrence, i cant get it workin10:53
BlueDevilAnoop: you need to register your nick10:53
jeed890can anybody help me seveas was but now he dont reply10:54
Anoophow?10:54
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jsteidlAnoop: type /msg nickserv help10:54
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BlueDevilAnoop: "/msg nickserv register your_password"10:54
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jc-dentonwhy is this?10:54
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DJGreenhey hey folks10:54
JyZ|lawrence, when i try to update ubuntu it say  "You have 1 broken package on your system! use the broken filter to locate it"10:54
DJGreenwhat's up y'all Ubuntites10:54
JyZ|lawrence, where is the broken filter10:54
jeed890i need help with booting problems if anybody can help please pm me10:54
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DJGreenuse synaptic10:55
jsteidlJyZ|: use synaptic to locate the package10:55
navaroneJyZ|, try status at bottom left10:55
lightbrightDJGreen: why use synaptic when we have aptitude?10:55
DJGreeneven better10:55
lawrenceJyZ|, synaptic10:55
navaroneJyZ|, in synaptic10:55
neighborleelightbright, ease of use ? ;-)10:55
DJGreenbut for this guy its synaptic10:55
lawrenceJyZ|, Or just give me your root password, that works too10:55
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JyZ|lawrence, Naah :)10:55
DJGreenpfft ..10:55
lightbrightneighborlee: ok :)10:55
neighborlee:)10:55
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DJGreenyou know everyone was once a n00b10:56
trappistneighborlee: I think I remember you from #mandrake10:56
DJGreenso chill10:56
neighborleelightbright, of course mainly newbie friendly <G>10:56
neighborleetrappist, indeed10:56
lightbrightDJGreen: yes and many people are still noobs :)10:56
navaronelawrence, the Russian judge gives you 2.4 for social engineering...lol10:56
neighborleetrappist, how are you10:56
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lightbrightneighborlee: yeah true10:56
lawrencenavarone, rofl10:56
trappistneighborlee: excellent.  you?10:56
DJGreensadly but how can we have a bigger community if others dont start?10:56
Taa5i_Howdy yall!10:56
neighborleetrappist, excellent thx ;0)10:56
DJGreensee if you all want ubuntu to be all that that is10:56
eedgeIs there any way I can force my traffic to go through a proxy.10:56
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eedgeAs in, for programs that dont have inbuilt proxy support.10:57
trappisteedge: use iptables to set up a transparent proxy10:57
lawrenceJyZ|, did you start synaptic?10:57
JyZ|lawrence, do iptables start auotmaticly when i start ubuntu?10:57
eedgethat sounds difficult :)10:57
jsteidlAnoop: did it worked out for you?10:57
JyZ|lawrence, ye i fixed it :P10:57
trappisteedge: not really10:57
eedgeany chance of some kind of guide or helpful link?10:57
Anoopi think blue can see me now10:57
eedge:)10:57
Anoopcan u try again jsteidl10:57
lawrenceJyZ|, wait...what?10:57
lightbrightJyZ|: define iptables10:57
navaroneJzE, ...yes...you can use firestarter to view traffic and make policy changes10:57
JyZ|say Where?10:57
SWATbor, also have a look at the last remark on : http://lantech.geekvenue.net/chucktips/jason/chuck/1077301682/index_html10:58
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trappisteedge: iptables -t nat -I PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports $PROXY_PORT10:58
Taa5i_ANYBODY: Does anybody here have any experiance using Ubuntu with an HP NetRAID controller? I have an older HP NetServer with it built in and the distribution disks seem to have trouble with the disks10:58
lightbrightJzE: i use firestarter myself, its great10:58
eedgeI try it :)10:58
Taa5i_The RAID disks that is10:58
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williamOk10:58
williamNew question10:58
eedgeshould I have the proxy IP in there somewhere?10:58
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williamHow do I automount NTFS drives?10:58
jsteidlAnoop: ?10:58
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JyZ|say HEY10:58
eedgeshouldn't I even.10:58
Anoopyes10:58
JyZ|say any good program for looking videos?10:59
lightbrightJyZ|: go to www.grc.com   scroll-down,click on shields up logo,select all ports/services scan10:59
trappisteedge: no, you run that command on the proxy box, assuming you run the proxy on your gateway10:59
lawrenceJyZ|, You can use iptables to write firewalls and that kind of stuff10:59
lawrenceJyZ|, xine or totem10:59
DJGreenspeaking of mounting hey does anyone know how to automount hfs and hfs+ in fstab?10:59
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lawrenceJyZ|, I use totem-xine10:59
JyZ|with one is better10:59
jsteidlAnoop: did the registering worked out?10:59
Anoopi think so10:59
lawrenceJyZ|, depends10:59
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jsteidlAnoop: so you've recieved my message?10:59
Anoopnope10:59
trappisteedge: it does get a *little* more complicated if the proxy doesn't run on the gateway10:59
DJGreenmarc emery is that you?10:59
DJGreenhehe11:00
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jsteidlAnoop: then it hasnt worked ;)11:00
eedgeah, thats where the problem lies... the proxy box is windows :S11:00
eedgelol11:00
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Anoopk11:00
Paradossodoes anyone know how to set character encoding in aterm/eterm?11:00
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Anoopbut blue replied11:00
jsteidlAnoop: please type "/msg nickserv help register (your passwd here)"11:00
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Anoopand said hold on11:00
Techie_dudei can't get xwine to work with Dorgem11:00
Anoopi am holding on11:00
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jsteidlAnoop: okay, i am staying out of this ;)11:00
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Anoopthank you very much11:00
Techie_dudedoes anyone know how to fix my problem11:01
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jsteidlyou are welcome11:01
DJGreenaria giovanni?11:01
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DJGreenwow we have some celebs here11:01
DJGreenpabloescobar..11:01
NeverDreamleave the porn on YOUR computer11:01
DJGreenlol11:01
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JyZ|hey11:01
JyZ|i got allmost all port CLOSED11:01
eedgeWhat I want to do is force applications that alledgedly don't HAVE proxy support to go through my proxy.11:01
Techie_dudeDoes anyone know how to use xwine11:01
PabloEscobar_DJGreen-> sush11:01
BlueDevildoes running "dpkg -l|egrep '^..R'" produce any warning for any of you11:01
BlueDevil?11:01
DJGreenlol11:01
lightbrightTechie_dude: whats xwine?11:02
SWATDJGreen, don't be a perv. Keep those remarks to yourself11:02
Techie_dudeits a gui version of wine11:02
DJGreenpablo i was ecknowledging the names that go by here11:02
DJGreenheh..11:02
trappisteedge: it's a little more complicated, then, but you can do it.  just forward all port 80 traffic to the windows box on the proxy port.11:02
JyZ|lawrence, totem xine is to debian !11:02
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zimbabweserea11:02
DJGreenoh hey its just the names that people use here i wasnt being a perv11:02
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DJGreeni was just a name11:02
eedgeand how would I do that :P11:02
eedgeI havn't used iptables before.11:02
lawrenceJyZ|, Ubuntu is based on debian11:02
trappisteedge: /join #iptables11:03
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eedge /join #iptables11:03
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eedgeopps, haha11:03
JyZ|say know11:03
zimbabwewhat i do to see the list of channel ?11:03
lawrenceroot@sirius:/home/lawrence# aptitude search totem-xine11:03
lawrenceid  totem-xine11:03
lawrenceIt's definitely there11:03
jeed890is seveas here?11:03
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DJGreenlol11:04
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DJGreensome of these names are pretty funny11:04
lawrenceDJGreen, are you actually a dj?11:04
DJGreenonce11:04
DJGreenin Taiwan11:05
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lawrenceDJGreen, haha awesome11:05
nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnncan someone help me?11:05
DJGreeni gig some small time gigs11:05
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lawrenceDJGreen, cool11:05
DJGreenyeh11:05
lawrenceMC Frontalot is the greatest mc ever11:05
DJGreennothing too fancy just enough get the ladies11:05
DJGreen:)11:05
lawrencehaha nice11:05
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nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnni'm searching for a audio player that plays rar and zip files11:06
FlimFlamMancan i cram ubuntu onto a 2.5gb partition?11:06
DJGreengotta do tha spin and grin and the ladies will follow .. that's my motto11:06
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trappistnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn: rar and zip are not audio formats11:06
lawrenceFlimFlamMan, depends...what you going to use it for?11:06
lawrenceDJGreen, haha11:06
nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnyes i know11:06
FlimFlamManlawrence, to demo the ubuntu desktop at work11:06
nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnni'm not so stupid11:06
lawrenceFlimFlamMan, If you want to demo it, why not try a livecd?11:06
nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnbut i dont want to extract and play11:07
DJGreenmello the jello , fall back to attack i'm DJGreen in tha house.11:07
DJGreenword..11:07
FlimFlamManlawrence, low-end machine, would like to give it native drive access11:07
Chronusdarki agree with lawrence11:07
lawrencehaha11:07
DJGreen:)11:07
timbalbekovhow do i install the X11 development libraries?11:07
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hfxhiyas11:07
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hfxhow do i make gedit support writing to a samba share?11:08
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nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnsomeone knows a  audio program that plays rar and zip (yes its compressed files)11:08
nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn?11:08
szronikCan someone tell me why browsing the web under Ubuntu is so much slower than in Windows?11:08
trappisthfx: you don't.  you make your samba share support writing.11:08
lawrencennnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, Why not uncompress them first?11:08
DJGreenclickity clack did my keyboard tap. I know my show all the way down to my toe. nothin but a cow and a hoe.11:08
timmy334I just did a fresh install of Breezy on my laptop and it gives me the BSOD saying X couldn't start and it's disabling gdm. I've tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but it still doesn't work. How do I get it working?11:08
DJGreen:)11:09
hfxtrappist, it does o.O11:09
lawrenceDJGreen, haha nice....did you ever mc?11:09
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DJGreennope ..11:09
moolhum11:09
DJGreenjust spin11:09
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trappisthfx: gedit doesn't care if the file is on a samba share.11:09
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DJGreenoccasionally i pop in a few ryhmes to mix the nights11:09
lawrenceDJGreen, oh nice11:09
szronikI need to know how to speed up networking under Linux. How do I set the card to half-duplex mode too?11:09
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hfxtransgress, seemingly it does11:10
nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnncause i have 160 gb of music, and i like that they stay compressed ( i know some plugins for winamp or foobar under windows)11:10
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hfxon my kubuntu box, it works like a breeze11:10
hfxwith kate ^^11:10
Red-Soxnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn: thats a whole lot of music!!11:10
lawrenceFlimFlamMan, do you have a  swap partition?  Or do you need 2.5 gigabytes for ALL of ubuntu?11:10
nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnin hd11:11
FlimFlamManlawrence, that doesn't include .5gb swap11:11
lawrencennnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, don't pirate kthanks bye11:11
trappistnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn: unless your music is all .wavs they're already compressed and you're gaining nothing by zip/rarring them11:11
FlimFlamManor 50mb boot11:11
shinuwhy cant i do an 'lsof |grep 123'?11:11
nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnand i have more 320 gb on dvds11:11
hfxread some ugly rumour about gedit not supporting gnome-vfs. is that still correct?11:11
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BlueDevilnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn: you are aware that you can't compress mp3s much, right?!11:11
Red-Soxnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn: is there a media player that holds that much?11:11
DJGreenin fact last week i was invited as a guest at this one gig and i went on the mic and said "DJGreen is gonna burn the house down y'all best do your mizzen blitzen, if ya don't know what that is get the fuck out."11:11
nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnyes11:11
DelvienAnyone figure out how to make there "WIFI LED" to turn on when wifi is on?11:11
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trappistlawrence: having music is pirating?11:11
Red-Soxnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn: how do you rip DVDs?11:11
nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnno11:11
lawrencetrappist, I was joking11:11
lawrencennnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, i'm not sure...check to see if there's an xmms plugin11:12
nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnni have done this11:12
FlimFlamManmp3 doesn't compress hardly at all11:12
nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnyes11:12
Madmadcan anybody help me wid xp and 5.04 dual boot problems if so plz plz plz pm me11:12
DJGreensure it does .. just rename the mp3 to compress.mp311:13
nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnbut i like yo keep them on rar files11:13
BlueDevilnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn: uncompress the damn music, you're not gaining much space by keeping it compressed with rar or zip11:13
DJGreenviola compressed11:13
DJGreenhehe11:13
FlimFlamManwhat is your motivation for putting them in a zip?11:13
nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnsharing11:13
FlimFlamManwha?11:13
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nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnemule11:13
BlueDevilwtf?!11:13
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nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnamule11:14
nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnngnutella11:14
lawrencennnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, Oh....I was right then11:14
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FlimFlamMandoesn't take mp3's or what?11:14
BlueDevilyou have lots of albums?11:14
lawrencennnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, that's cool tho11:14
DJGreenif i were to come up with a gothic name i'd call myself NecroPoop.11:14
borSWAT: ah, great, thanks!  have you tried the development version yet?11:14
nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnthe edonkey network works better with large files11:14
FlimFlamManso share the zips and let people unzip them on the other end11:15
trappistnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn: please don't use the enter key for punctuation11:15
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trappistnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn: it would be even better if you'd consider changing your nick11:15
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BlueDevildidn't that network die of too many leechers riding it?! :)11:15
nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnyes? why?11:15
DJGreenhehe he said riding it..11:15
nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn(my first time on irc after 8 years?)11:16
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lawrenceDJGreen, Do you have any mp3s of you djing?11:16
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DJGreenuhh ... heh heh heh .. uhh .. yeah like that was cool or somethin .. heh ..11:16
DJGreenyou mean my mixes11:16
FlimFlamManso nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn was the first person to get locked up for 8 years for sharing copyrighted material11:16
DJGreennot on me here11:16
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DJGreeni'm on my lappy11:16
lawrenceDJGreen, oh cool11:16
BlueDevillol@FlimFlamMan11:16
nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnot in brazil!!!!11:16
trappistah, that explains a lot11:17
RezDawgDoes anyone here use xDvdshrink with ubuntu?11:17
Red-Soxtrappist: why do you say it would be better if nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn changed his nick?11:17
nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnhehehe11:17
DJGreeni never keep my mp3 on my lappy11:17
lawrencennnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, nice...corruption for the win!11:17
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DJGreeni remotely play them from my home11:17
laurenkhey11:17
DJGreenwhenever i am at a gig11:17
trappistRed-Sox: because it's extraordinarily lame?11:17
lawrenceDo you ever listen to your own mixes?11:17
DJGreenthis way peopel can't steal my shit11:17
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FlimFlamMani used to do that until my broadband provider slashed upload speed11:17
DJGreenonly when i'm really bored11:17
nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnntrapist how i change my nickname?11:17
BlueDevilDJGreen: riiiight :)11:17
Red-Soxtrappist: ill give you that ;)11:17
DJGreeni dont like to do the same thing twice11:17
trappistnickrud: /nick newnick11:17
DJGreeni'm freelance11:17
trappisterr11:17
Red-Soxnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn: then register it11:18
trappistnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn: /nick newnick11:18
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BlueDevilDJGreen: you stream from your home ssl wrapped? :)11:18
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DJGreennope11:18
trappistawesome11:18
Red-Soxnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn: newnick being your next nick11:18
DJGreenqt server11:18
DJGreenusing osx11:18
Red-Soxoh11:18
FlimFlamManif someone wants to go through the trouble of man-in-the-middle for a NSync track, i say let them11:18
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trappist<3 sophuslie11:18
lawrenceWhat's qt server....same as KDE's qt?11:18
DJGreenno11:18
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DJGreenquicktime as in apple's player11:18
DJGreenquicktime server11:19
lawrenceoh ok11:19
BlueDevilFlimFlamMan: i was only replying to "<DJGreen> this way peopel can't steal my shit" :)11:19
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DJGreenmost dj's use their laptops to play off their mixes11:19
DJGreeni never leave my mixes on my laptop11:19
DJGreenif i stepped away it can be copied11:20
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DJGreenso i just ssh to my box at home and tap the quicktime server11:20
DJGreenand stream them live11:20
njanDJGreen, lock your laptop when you're away from it?11:20
DJGreennot when you're running a gig11:20
BlueDevilyou could get a usb key11:20
njanDJGreen, why not? use an account with a four-character password just for gigs, it'd take seconds to unlock.11:21
DJGreenyou use your laptop to maintain everything even your switchboard and turntables11:21
DJGreennah ..11:21
njanDJGreen, and that way you wouldn't have the worry that if your connectivity died, you'd be musicless.11:21
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DJGreeni haven't had any trouble11:21
shinuwhy would a program tell me it cant open some high ports for listening?11:22
seriesxIn a terminal, how do I handle filenames that start with "-" ? GUI's can handle them but I don't know how to type11:22
njanDJGreen, well, since you're still doing it that way, I'd expect that. :-P11:22
shinunetstat |grep port_number doesnt return anything11:22
DJGreento me ssh is the easiest way11:22
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njanDJGreen, it's quite an elegant way, but I wouldn't do it that way, personally.11:22
navaroneDJGreen, you can even get fingerprint scanning usb drives...you can put media on the usb and no one can get it without fingerscan11:22
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njannavarone, but once playing someone could come along and copy it11:22
njannavarone, which I believe is what he's worried about.11:22
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FlimFlamManDJGreen, i'd be worried that there'd be a network issue during a gig11:22
DJGreenwell my purpose isnt really security11:22
popeyhow would they copy it?11:22
njanpopey, usb key?11:23
popeyjust disable the usb ports to stop idle plugging11:23
DJGreenhow it's all hardlined11:23
BlueDevilseriesx: escape it11:23
SWATbor, no not yet. What version of cdrtools is currently on my system? It's not a package so how can I check?11:23
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DJGreenthere's no wireless11:23
seriesxBlueDevil, how?11:23
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FlimFlamManwireless or not11:23
popeyrename the usbcore.ko module :)11:23
njanFlimFlamMan, ditto, me too.11:23
borSWAT: you can check it with cdrecord --version11:23
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njanHaving worked for an ISP I know wayyy better than to rely on one internet connection, especially a consumer one, for anything like that ;)11:23
FlimFlamMan"and now, DJGreen will entertain us with some magic tricks."11:23
DJGreeni'm not worried about that anyway .. i just ssh into my computer and stream11:24
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SWATbor, that would be 2.01.01a0111:24
DJGreenno point on elaborating technicality11:24
BlueDevilseriesx: \-11:24
njanDJGreen, what *would* you do if the internet connection died?11:24
Jxpxsomeone know how can i put a ackick in a chanel (i am the founder of course)11:24
seriesxdousn't work11:24
FlimFlamMansoft-shoe?11:24
DJGreenjust like any gig continue the show11:24
MeeKsim looking to mess with linux a bit, would ubuntu be a good start? or something like mandrake beter11:24
phyburnnice i have a ununtu desktop up11:24
DJGreenlike the power goes out11:24
phyburnbyby W$!11:24
DJGreenyou do it manually11:24
DJGreenthe show doesnt stop11:25
njanDJGreen, how, if you didn't have an internet connection?11:25
FlimFlamManwith what? the ubuntu log-off jingle?11:25
Jxpxsomeone know how can i put a ackick in a chanel (i am the founder of course)?11:25
njanJxpx, you asked that already.11:25
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Jxpxso ?11:25
borSWAT: hm, the same version the package in dapper has11:25
Killer3kMeeks - Ubuntu should be fine11:25
njanJxpx, so it's annoying your asking it again - I was typing you a response.11:25
DJGreenif i didnt have interent there's the love of dvd11:25
MeeKsive never used before11:25
Jxpxok11:25
FlimFlamManoh11:25
Jxpxthanks11:25
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DJGreen*internet11:25
SWATbor, that means the development version (mention in the comment) is far older and the stable version (after that) is used in Ubuntu Breezy. Still strange the error persists11:25
MeeKsi might try a live cd11:25
Killer3kMeeks: I never used it until an hour ago :D11:25
DJGreenbut that's cuttin it a bit i dont like to carry my stuff with me11:25
MeeKshow do you like11:25
DJGreenother than my quip11:26
navaronenjan, his internet connection was only needed to access offsite box and stream mixes from it...I think without connection he could just contuinue using whatever music he had onhand11:26
Killer3kMeeks: I am very VERY impressed11:26
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Jxpxsomeone know how can i put a ban in a channel?11:26
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MeeKsill have to go get the ppc version11:26
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DJGreendigital is better than old lp11:26
Ishotweberrrr so my wine install is asking me for the root password.... that's the password i've been using every time i ran something with sudo, right?11:26
njannavarone, so if he's carrying stuff on him, unless he has MAC-controlled tiers of music, that makes the online stream redundant. :P11:26
DJGreenheh ..11:26
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Killer3kMeeks: you have a mac?11:26
Ishotwebbecuase that password isn't working11:26
DJGreenbut lp is classic and every dj knows11:26
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ompaulJxpx, you need to be an op11:26
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GNAMwhere's BEN COLLINS?11:26
Jxpxi am11:26
BlueDevilIshotweb: no, that's not the password11:26
Jxpxi am ompaul11:26
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MeeKsyea killer i do11:27
jordan121887what is the easiest way to install network manageer, and where can i get it?11:27
DJGreenbut let's get something straight y'all i'm no big guy here i'm a little man with skills of dj11:27
SWATbor, do you have any great idea's how to solve this? :(11:27
njanJxpx, /mode #channel +b user!ident@ost.tld11:27
DJGreengraduated from NYU11:27
BlueDevilIshotweb: the password you use with sudo is you owm11:27
njans/ost/host/11:27
BlueDevilown11:27
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Killer3kMeeks: well I aint sure how it will go on that, but on my x86 it worked flawlessly11:27
Jxpxompaul,  so u know how can i ban?11:27
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Lewixhi all11:27
navaronenjan>beyond the technical...the point is he would only use internet connectiivty to accessa file he had offsite...playing music otherwise does not require it11:27
DJGreenso what i do is for living not for show11:27
DJGreen:)11:27
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MeeKsshould actually work better than x8611:27
MeeKssince hardware is proprietary11:28
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ompaulJxpx, I don't but my client does - xchat11:28
IshotwebBlueDevil, ahhh i understand i was mistaking sudo for root11:28
borSWAT: no, not really, I'll look at the sources for the USE_LARGEFILES define and how to enable it11:28
Killer3kMeeks: It even went and picked up that I have extra buttons on my keyboard and programed that perfect!!!11:28
Jxpxok11:28
DJGreenhere's the plus .. i use ubuntu on my lappy11:28
LewixI need some help11:28
njannavarone, right, and my point was that he said the reason he didn't use music locally was to stop people copying it. If he has stuff onsite anyway, in case the online feed goes down, it makes the online feed redundant because he *has* music onsite.11:28
LewixI've downloaded the dvd iso11:28
Killer3kMeeks: yes i agree, it should work better11:28
MeeKsyeah what kind of laptop would i need to run  ubuntu11:28
LewixI mean I can't dl it11:28
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ompaulLewix, can you put the question in one line - the whole one11:28
njanMeeKs, practically any new laptop will run it11:28
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MeeKsspecs11:29
MeeKs?11:29
BlueDevilIshotweb: you can set the root password using "sudo passwd root"11:29
njanMeeKs, are you asking about a new PC re: what sort you should get, or asking about a second hand PC for a minimum spec?11:29
borSWAT: there is a new version at ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/alpha/11:29
opnsrcI moved accessibility in the menu editor to Office11:29
borSWAT: a0311:29
navaronenjan> the music he said he didn't want  to have people access was his mixes...which he did not carry on gigs...hence the steraming if neccessary11:29
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IshotwebBlueDevil,  thanks for the help11:29
opnsrc(I'm using Ubuntu)11:29
BlueDevilIshotweb: so then you would be able to use that11:29
DJGreenbelieve it or not my lappy is powerbook 1711:29
MeeKsnjan: i want to get a laptop for it11:29
BlueDevilIshotweb: yw11:29
jordan121887can anyone tell me how to put network manager on my computer>>>11:29
DJGreenan apple lapbox11:29
DJGreen:)11:29
MeeKsbut dont want to spend a lot11:29
Killer3kMeeks: you could use any i suppose11:29
ompaulIshotweb, you should not do that -  you should use sudo11:29
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opnsrc(accidently) so I went back to change it back and when I do it still shows under Office (though with the Menu editor it does not)11:29
njanMeeKs, virtually any laptop you buy will probably run ubuntu.11:29
opnsrchow do I fix it?11:29
DJGreenits for the lady magnet affect ya know11:29
DJGreenglow the apple and get the babes11:29
SWATbor, would you do that for me? (look at the sources) And I know about the newer development version (would be logical if it would've been fixed in the stable though)11:29
Lewixarf11:30
Ishotwebompaul, in this case i need a root password11:30
Kruzi know this isnt exactly on topic but anyone here good with ettercap and could answer a question or two11:30
njanMeeKs, find the laptop, google it or look it up on the ubuntu wiki to see if there are any issues with that particular laptop, but I'd imagine any budget laptop from dell or toshiba would run ubuntu fine.11:30
MeeKscool11:30
borSWAT: mkisofs/Makefile:CPPOPTS +=-DUSE_LARGEFILES, seems to be if this version could work11:30
MeeKsis there a spec page?11:30
navaroneDJGreen, the ladies like macs I take it...lol11:30
kibab_hey all... what's the best way to configure a network card post-install? I can manually run ifconfig/dhcpc and get it up.... but I would presume there is something that will create the necessary config files for me?11:30
BlueDevilompaul: don't get all pedantic about sudo/su :P11:30
ompaulIshotweb, if you do that and you need to start the machine in single user mode youwill be locked out11:30
njanKruz, ask, and if someone knows hnow to answer, they will.11:30
SWATbor, which version? (current ubuntu version?:)11:30
UncleDAm I correct in that if I format a floppy disk and put files on it in WINDOWSXP and then load it up on ubuntu, ill be unable to mount it and access those files?11:30
DJGreenoh i was just messin about the lady part hopefully and most deffinitely not geeks11:30
njanMeeKs, there's a laptop compatibility page on the wiki somewhere.11:30
BlueDevilompaul: why would he be locked out?11:30
DJGreeni'd hate to bash in geeks for liking my laptop and not my gig11:30
MeeKsoh i meant general specs11:31
MeeKssystem requirements11:31
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ompaulBlueDevil, do it and see if you can get in without the password ...... that is how it works11:31
njanMeeKs, any laptop you buy new today will run ubuntu11:31
borSWAT: 2.01.01a03 (ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/alpha/cdrtools-2.01.01a03.tar.gz)11:31
njanMeeKs, you couldn't buy a new laptop which was below the ubuntu minimum requirements.11:31
BlueDevilompaul: without what password?11:31
borSWAT: wait a second, I'll test it on a 4 GB file11:31
KruzOK, ive been running ettercap for a while, can get unencrypted clear text pw's that have been on my network, but i was wondering about / how to get the encrypted web PWs (gmail, hotmail, etc) i have heard it is doable, i just havent been able to find it anywhere on the net11:31
UncleDAnyone know about mounting flopys formatted in windowsXP on ubuntu? Is it a problem?11:31
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MeeKsi want to nkow what ubuntus sys requirements are11:31
navaroneMeeks...you can try live cd first and see how hardware detection goes11:31
BlueDevilompaul: he has both passwords: his and root's11:31
njanKruz, gmail and hotmail are both encrypted with tls/ssl11:31
DJGreenettercap .. isnt nmap better?11:31
SWATbor, try 4.2 or 4.3 gb (just in case :P)11:31
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njanKruz, you'd have to actually crack https in order to do that, and that's hard.11:32
kibab_UncleD: no problem... just mount them msdos or vfat... (or auto)11:32
ompaulBlueDevil, the newley choosen root password - what happens is people forget it cose they don't use it daily - we see this time and again11:32
njanDJGreen, they're completely different applications. :P11:32
compDois there a tool to display all available modes (resolution) my video card supports?11:32
DJGreenthat's what i thought11:32
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pcnrmnirc.immortal-anime.net11:32
Ishotwebi'd assume i'm smart enough to remember two different passwords11:32
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borSWAT: ok :)11:32
LewixI would like to dl the dvd,where can I?11:32
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DJGreenyou know i need to ask this ..11:32
BlueDevilompaul: you cand invent software to be immune to stupidity11:32
ompaulIshotweb, your call - you don't need it so why use11:32
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DJGreenhow can you view wmv files on ubuntu?11:32
UncleDIs it possible to mount a windowsXP floppy disk on ubuntu that contains files ?11:33
Ishotwebompaul, then what am i supposed to do if my wine install is asking for my root password?11:33
DJGreeni know for pc folks its rather easy11:33
DJGreenbut what can i use ?11:33
MeeKsconvert them11:33
ompaulIshotweb, sudo it11:33
Kruzi see, i was reading some docs on dsniff and it said by using hosts, it could see them plain text, by tunneling, i tried a combo of dsniff, arpspoof, webmitm, like the doc said, but couldnt get it, is there a way to do it that way, or am i SOL11:33
navaroneUncleD, you should be able to11:33
FlimFlamManUncleD, why not just try?  doesn't xp make vfat format floppies by default?11:33
ompaulIshotweb, did you install it using synaptic / apt-get ?11:33
NecrocideI got a question about installing ClearLooks with the .deb package on Ubuntu forums, I see NOTHING changed???11:33
ompaulIshotweb, or did you compile it?11:33
UncleDFlimFlamMan - I guess maybe that was the problem, old floppies?11:33
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UncleDFlimFlam: I did try and it hung for 10 minutes11:34
UncleDit never mounted11:34
Ishotwebompaul, i needed to modify the source, so i couldn't just install the binary. i compiled it11:34
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jason__Hello all! Just installed Ubuntu 5.10 yesterday. Decided to get a wireless card today.11:34
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BlueDevilompaul: besides if he is worried he will forget the root password he can set it the same as his own; not a good practice though11:34
kibab_UncleD: perhaps it's bad then... linux doesn't have any problems reading floppies (xp or otherwise)11:34
opnsrcanyone know how to make the menu editor in sync with the menu?11:34
Ishotwebompaul, if i sudo it it aborts, telling me it's not advisable to run wineinstall as root.11:34
opnsrcor th ething that says edit menus11:34
UncleDkibab_ - maybe its due to the disks being old floppys?11:34
opnsrcfor some reason it's not in sync11:34
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kibab_UncleD: very likely.11:34
FlimFlamManUncleD, floppies *suck*, especially old ones.  i've had better luck formatting new floppies on a linux box, then using them in xp.  sometimes floppies work best in the floppy drive unit that formats them11:34
UncleDkibab, so ill basically need a new floppy11:34
ompaulIshotweb, try this:: sudo -i  :: then try the instll11:35
kibab_UncleD: yeah... basically.11:35
ompaulIshotweb, but consider what you are doing first11:35
UncleDthese floppys are probably 5 years old11:35
jason__Found a tutorial to add it but it says before doing anything to add ndiswrapper-utils but I cannot find it in the Package Manager11:35
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FlimFlamManUncleD, if they're the *only* floppies you have, try formatting them as vfat on the linux side, then use them on the windows side11:35
kibab_Is there a tool for configuring network cards / changing network settings in ubuntu?11:36
jason__How do I get ndiswrapper-utils if it's not in the Synaptics Package Manager?11:36
DJGreenanyone play doom3 yet on ubuntu?11:36
DJGreen:)11:36
ompaulIshotweb, did you get the source for wine on ubuntu or the source from the site? just curious well you know my thinking at this stage11:36
lysishey so, my audio turns itself off overnight11:36
lysisis there a way to fix this without rebooting?11:36
FlimFlamMani'm a RTCW:ET man myself11:36
SWATbor, how is it going?11:36
jason__How do I get ndiswrapper-utils if it's not in the Synaptics Package Manager?11:36
Ishotwebompaul, i got the source from ubuntu.11:36
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ompaulhmm11:36
BlueDevillysis: did you check mixer settings?11:36
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lysissudo alsamixer  ?11:37
BlueDevillysis: that for one11:37
Ishotwebompaul,  are you just thinking i might be running something i shouldn't, and thus i should be careful about running it under admin11:37
FlimFlamManopenoffice.org downloads have topped 50 million11:37
borSWAT: have to install some dependency packages first, should be finished soon11:37
jason__How do I get ndiswrapper-utils if it's not in the Synaptics Package Manager?11:37
BlueDevilFlimFlamMan: openoffice sucks11:37
lysisBlueDevil, nothing out of the ordinary my friend11:37
BlueDevillysis: is sound working now?11:38
lysisno11:38
lysisi didn't reboot11:38
ompaulIshotweb, well you would have been doing that anyway - I just hate to think of all those good linux cycles going to waste on a .exe :-) we can leave it there or talk on #ubuntu-offtopic :)11:38
lysis:)11:38
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lysisi wanted to try to fix it without rebooting11:38
lysisif i do it will work11:38
Lovecraftque taaaaal11:38
Lovecraftgrigos qliaos11:38
NecrocideI got a question about installing ClearLooks with the .deb package on Ubuntu forums, I see NOTHING changed???11:38
BlueDevillysis: so, the channels aren't muted, etc11:38
LovecraftxD11:38
BlueDevillysis: all looks normal?11:38
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lysisBlueDevil, this is correct.  is there something else i should check?  maybe if i reloaded audio?11:39
SWATbor, I'm using breezy and I don't want to uhhh... screw it up :)  So I'm already gratefull that you are doing it11:39
mcphailWhere's ubotu?11:39
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mekdhi11:39
SWATbor, btw, cdrtools is just make and make install right?11:39
owner989k3b is so much better than gnomebaker11:39
owner989k3b is even better than nero11:39
BlueDevillysis: what are the exact symptoms?11:39
SWATk3b is far superiour to gnomebaker11:39
Lovecraftqui wa pasa aca gringo reqliaos11:39
LovecraftxD11:39
owner989gnomebaker doesnt even work for me11:39
mekdcan anybody help me?11:39
lysisno audio output period after i leave the computer overnight. i watched a dvd and fell asleep.11:39
owner989it fails without even writing anything11:39
jason__How do I get ndiswrapper-utils if it's not in the Synaptics Package Manager?11:39
lysistoday (16 hours after the movie was over) i come to it and audio doesn't work11:40
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lysisit's happened before, and if i reboot all is well without a problem11:40
mcphaillysis: try "killall esd"11:40
davejason__: What are your sources?11:40
BlueDevillysis: it might be that the sound board is in sleep mode11:40
lightbrightwhats the command to install mozilla + composer pls?11:40
BlueDevilyou cand check bios settings11:40
kibab_jason__: then you would need to add a different apt-source.11:40
lysisi tried "killall esd" in term and it did nothing11:41
lysisesd: nothing killed11:41
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davejason__: Do you have multiple apt repositories set up in /etc/apt/sources.list?11:41
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jason__I'm a total newb...how would I do that? Sources?11:41
Seveas!dance11:41
UbugtuI guess dance is o/-< o, Seveas11:41
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jason__Checking now...11:41
BlueDevillysis: cat /bin/bash > /dev/dsp11:41
kibab_jason__: I've only booted ubuntu twice so far, but I think there is a tool for doing that.11:41
einPauleIve got a similar problem to lysis, after a couple of songs on AmaroK, the sound goes bad... the same thing after some time talking on skype11:41
einPauleowner989, you might remember my sound setup... any ideas?11:41
lysisOMG MAKE IT STOP11:41
kibab_jason__: sorry I can't be of much use... I'm very familiar with Linux, but just trying out ubuntu for the first time.11:41
phyburnhow would i enable root11:41
phyburni just installed and it never asked for a root passwd11:42
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BlueDevillysis: hahaa :) we've established your sound works :D11:42
kibab_phyburn: it puts you in the admin group for sudo...11:42
lysishow do we unestablish!!!!11:42
lysislol11:42
lysisunestablish unestablish11:42
BlueDevillysis: did you hear sound?11:42
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jason__dave: I've got the default one that comes with the install.11:42
phyburnkibab_ kk thanks so I should then be able to run `sudo passwd root`11:42
lysisa godawful errr eeee screeeech11:42
mcphailSeveas: you have skype in your repository?11:42
navaronelysis...try sudo killall11:42
kibab_phyburn: btw, you can sudo su and become root and set a password... but that might be against the ubunto philosophy11:43
Seveasmcphail, yes11:43
kibab_phyburn: :)11:43
williamHow do you enable 3d graphic acceleration?11:43
BlueDevillysis: your hardware works11:43
BlueDevillysis: what doesn't work?11:43
kibab_time to go pick up my kids... later all!11:43
davejason__: You will probably need to have more than just the default repositories.  Do you know how to add repositiories?11:43
lysisnoises from programs11:43
lysishow do i turn this god forsaken noise off? lol11:43
mcphailSeveas: would you consider adding a .deb for the skype_dsp_hijacker? The current version of skype is buggy without it.11:43
jason__No, sorry.11:43
BlueDevillysis: hit Ctrl-C11:43
phyburnkibab_ y, im new to ununto11:43
FlimFlamManoh man, this isn't gonna fit11:43
phyburnubunto11:43
Seveasmcphail, if the thing is open source, sure11:44
lysiswhat does that do?11:44
lysisoo the noise is gone11:44
BlueDevillysis: it stops the cat :)11:44
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mcphailSeveas: GPL (and i must add, i'm not connected to it in any way)11:44
davejason__: I don't know how to in synaptic because I do not use gui, but I do know how to with a text editor.11:44
lysisahh11:44
lysisgood man11:44
Seveasmcphail, is it packaged already?11:44
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roproom1breezy kvm serial mouse how to detect???11:44
erUSULSeveas, sorry to bother you but why have you "backported" tetex packages? (in your repository). Is there any problem with the ones shipped in breezy?11:44
BlueDevillysis: lucky you I didn't write "cat /dev/urandom >/dev/dsp" :P11:44
SeveaserUSUL, tetex 3 has quite a few new features11:45
phyburnkibab_  what is the package mannager for ubunto11:45
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mcphailSeveas: no - it's a simple script and lib. I've never rolled a .deb before, so i wouldn't know what to do11:45
BlueDevilroproom1: what do you mean?11:45
lysisi guess?  lol11:45
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lysisBlueDevil, any ideas why my programs won't make noise until i reboot then?11:46
erUSULSeveas, are there any problems installing it (e.g with LyX)?11:46
Seveasmcphail, mail me the sources and I'll package it11:46
BlueDevillysis: all your programs?11:46
BlueDevillysis: what have you tried?11:46
lysishmm minteresting11:46
SeveaserUSUL, debbugs mentions quite a few upgrade problems for debian users11:46
lysisnow rhythmbox works after you had me do that cat thing11:46
lysisbut gaim still doesn't.11:46
jason__dave: Found how to add one in synaptic...what do I need to add?11:46
mcphailSeveas: http://195.38.3.142:6502/skype/ (and i'll email as well)11:46
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Seveas!snake11:46
UbugtuSchnaaakkeeeeeee, schnaaaaaaaakkeeee, oh no it's a schnaaaaaaaaaakkeeeeee11:46
roproom1breezy install with kvm switch doesn't detect serial mouse11:46
davejason__: I would add the universe and the multiverse11:47
erUSULSeveas, ty11:47
Seveasroproom1, it doesn't detect serial mouse at all, kvm or not11:47
roproom1not at all11:47
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lysisBlueDevil, anything you might recommend for that?11:48
jason__dave: They are actually checkboxes in synaptic so I just had to check them, reloading lists now.11:48
davejason__: I have the default and the universe and the multivers repositories and I CAN install ndiswrapper-utils11:48
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davejason__: cool, that's easy then11:48
davejason__: once you have added these repositories, make sure that you update your list11:48
BlueDevillysis: "ps axww | grep esd"11:49
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iikiis there any other good respositories?11:49
jgrieves/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc does anyone know if any gnome GUI preference interact with this location/11:49
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mcphailSeveas: you are dennis@ etc?11:49
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jason__dave: Yep. just did that11:49
Seveasmcphail, correct11:49
ajmitchhm11:49
lysisBlueDevil, lysis@ubuntu:~$ ps axww | grep esd11:49
lysis22117 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep esd11:49
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daveiiki: There are tons of good repositories out there...nerim is a good one11:49
jrattner1When is iTunes ever going to work on linux11:49
Seveasdave, nerim sucks11:50
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lysisit works right now with crossover office.11:50
Seveasnerim is god, but not for ubuntu11:50
Seveasgood*11:50
BlueDevillysis: then you'd better start esd i guess11:50
davejason__: Are you able to find ndiswrappers now11:50
bshumatejrattner1: probably never11:50
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daveSeveas: A blanket statment like that needs a reason11:50
lysisBlueDevil,  in terminal "start esd" ?11:50
jrattner1Is there any way to play songs purchased from iTunes, in linux without using the Hymn project to "decode" them?11:50
daveSeveas: Oh, for ubuntu...yeah nerim is not all that great11:50
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Seveasdave, nerim builds for debian, on ubuntu it causes dependency errors11:51
BlueDevillysis: no, check in the gnome menu for something like sound server11:51
Seveascipherfunk and plf are good for Ubuntu11:51
lysishmmm11:51
daveSeveas: I have used nerim with ubuntu in the past and I have had good luck11:51
Seveas!drake11:51
jason__Dave: Yes, just installed it. Thanks for the help!11:51
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UbugtuI guess drake is dragon, Seveas11:51
daveSeveas: I am also a debian user some of the time, but am starting to be more and more ubuntu11:52
davejason__: Cool.  Glad that I could help11:52
Seveasdave, welcome on the dark side of the moon :)11:52
phyburn_what file would i edit to change my screen rez I need to go higher then what i have now11:52
bshumatejrattner1: i would doubt it being AAC is all proprietary-like and whatnot...I only use iTunes for the iPod, so I really cannot say...11:52
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rotialHi!! how can I create a new user called root with all priviledged, instead of making sudo for everything??? I'm new in Ubuntu11:52
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navaronehmm...any recommendations for lubricant to put on fan bearings to stop whining vibration sound?11:52
UncleDWhat is the syntax to format a floppy disk in VFAT format from the terminal prompt?11:52
daveSeveas: Yeah, it is not so dark though...I have my two sisters using Ubuntu exclusively...I just can't seem to convince my mom11:52
Seveaswhat does she use?11:53
daveSeveas: Windoze11:53
phyburn_rotial `sudo passwd root` then set a passwd for root becarfull11:53
giggohelp chanel in italian?11:53
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Seveas!it11:53
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Seveasgiggo, #ubuntu-it11:53
rotialthanks11:53
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phyburn_navarone " wd40" lol11:53
insomndrotial, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo11:53
giggothanks11:53
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Deterministnavarone, WD4011:54
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Deterministnavarone, but ... careful, eh?11:55
fr500hello11:55
fr500does anyone use gnome-phone-manager?11:55
jeremywhitinganyone wanna shed some light on what dapper is exactly?  I heard about it while looking for ways to install firefox 1.511:55
Deterministjeremywhiting, the next version of ubuntu11:55
fr500dapper is the next ubuntu version11:55
BlueDeviljeremywhiting: breezy+111:55
UncleDWhat is the syntax to format a floppy disk in VFAT format from the terminal prompt?11:56
Seveas!dapper11:56
insomndubuntu version next :p11:56
UbugtuI guess dapper is the next ubuntu version, Seveas11:56
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bshumateit's when ya get all dressed up and spiffy, and put some eau de toilet on!!!11:56
fr500!dapper11:56
UbugtuIt has been said that dapper is the next ubuntu version, fr50011:56
jeremywhitingoh, got it, so you can use the dapper apt sources to install firefox, that makes sense actually11:56
jeremywhitingthanks guys11:56
insomndjeremywhiting not recommended11:56
kbrooksCan someone explain this to me.11:56
reupberthey. may i ask support questions here?11:56
BlueDeviljeremywhiting: dont11:56
Deterministdapper backports repos available?11:56
jeremywhitingyeah, I figured that11:56
insomndjeremywhiting, just download tgz and unpack.. should be fine11:56
sloucherwilll firefox 1.5 come out for breezy?11:56
kbrooksi wrote  a document in word with a table11:56
BlueDeviljeremywhiting: there's a howto for installing firefox 1.5 on breezy, follow that11:57
kbrooksand when i open it in abiword11:57
Seveassloucher, probably not11:57
insomndreupbert, dont ask to ask just ask11:57
fr500whats wrong with the firefox we have now?11:57
jeremywhitingI wont, just trying to understand ubuntu after coming from gentoo11:57
SWATreupbert, don't ask to ask just ask!11:57
BlueDeviljeremywhiting: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion11:57
jeremywhitingthanks BlueDevil11:57
davejeremywhiting: welcome11:57
slouchernewer is better?11:57
UncleDBlueDevil, What is the syntax to format a floppy disk in VFAT format from the terminal prompt?11:57
SWATreupbert, otherwise you'll be ignored indefinately11:57
jeremywhitingand dave11:57
reupbertwhat is the difference between gstreamer based totem and xine? the codecs?11:57
BlueDevilfr500: it's shitty slow11:57
Seveasjeremywhiting, welcome to the land of the sane :)11:57
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kbrooksCan someone explain this to me.11:57
kbrooksi wrote  a document in word with a table11:57
kbrooksand when i open it in abiword11:57
jgrievesis there a native X app to chose cursors?11:57
Deterministfr500, nothing, but there's a new version with lotsof fixes, so why not?11:57
dermothey all!11:57
jgrieveslike Xgetcursor11:57
SWATbor, still alive?11:57
kbrooksthe table is enlongated11:58
kbrooksto a 2nd page11:58
jeremywhitingthanks Seveas: you a convert as well then?11:58
jgrievesor just xset11:58
kbrooksand i have 3 columns in this table11:58
kbrooksAND11:58
Deterministkbrooks, do you have a question? a point?11:58
reupbertkbrooks: abiword probably doesn't have full Microsoft Office .doc support11:58
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insomndreupbert, kbrooks:: nothing does :p11:58
reupbertlol11:58
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insomndno need tho11:58
BlueDevilUncleD: mkfs.vfat /dev/fd0 i guess11:58
kbrooks1 of the 3 rows are blank11:58
cloud_hi everyone11:58
rotialSomebody has worked with the omnetpp simulator???11:58
kbrookson the second page11:58
cloud_gotta a question11:59
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cloud_where do i go to find out the supported hardware list of ubuntu?11:59
dermotanybody know were i can get some addresses for the streaming radio in rhythmbox  0.9.0 ?11:59
kbrookser, 2 of the 3 rows11:59
Deterministcloud_, google for it, or use the wiki11:59
psihas anyone tried the airport extreme driver yet? :)11:59
reupbertdermot: shoutcast.com11:59
reupbertwhat is the difference between gstreamer based totem and xine? the codecs?11:59
cloud_i have been googling fo over 30 miuntes11:59
jgrievesdermot use stream tuner11:59
kbrooksreupbert, .. but abiword is open source!11:59
cloud_for*11:59
jgrievesdermot sudo apt-get install streamtuner12:00
lightbrightairport extreme driver?12:00
Deterministreupbert, basically, yes, it's a different set of libs... a different player12:00
cloud_boon a ton mi12:00

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