[12:00] <robotgeek> n0dl: uninstaling xubuntu-desktop won't really remove any packages
[12:00] <gi2k15> soundray, now I was able to umount, without -f
[12:00] <phiqtion> soundray: im on the live cd. it says casper-snapshot does not have any correspoding BIOS drive
[12:00] <gi2k15> soundray, but automount still doesn't work
[12:01] <Millenniumgroup> khalif sudo mount /media/cdrom0/ -o unhide
[12:01] <soundray> gi2k15, are you using a mountpoint under /media ?
[12:01] <Millenniumgroup> sudo umount /media/cdrom0/
[12:01] <gi2k15> soundray, yes
[12:01] <erUSUL> Millenniumgroup, for things under media use pmount
[12:01] <soundray> phiqtion, how did you get into this trouble?
[12:01] <Millenniumgroup> oh sorry you said iso
[12:01] <Millenniumgroup> sudo mkdir /media/iso
[12:01] <Millenniumgroup> sudo modprobe loop
[12:01] <Millenniumgroup> sudo mount file.iso /media/iso/ -t iso9660 -o loo
[12:01] <phiqtion> soundray, trying to add a picture to the grub
[12:01] <gi2k15> soundray, /media/cdrom0
[12:02] <Millenniumgroup> pmount, i'll remember that tx erusul
[12:02] <soundray> gi2k15, maybe mkdir /mnt/udfcd and mount the cd there.
[12:02] <hkais> anybody here with an nforce mainboard under ubuntu?
[12:02] <soundray> gi2k15, maybe it's nautilus touching the media mountdir.
[12:02] <soundray> phiqtion, what are the symptoms when you boot the hd?
[12:03] <Ninjaa> hi guys, im trying to extract a xampp download thats on my desktop into the opt folder, and i cant command line right though. anyone help ?
[12:03] <Shadowpillar> damn damn damn
[12:03] <Shadowpillar> can someone help me?
[12:03] <phiqtion> soundray, grub loading, black screen. i press enter it says uncompressing linux. laptop restarts
[12:03] <gi2k15> soundray, but I could umount the CD now. I just can't automount. But anyway, I'll try to change the mount point to avoid more problems
[12:03] <Shadowpillar> some reason, only root now has access to everything in the system
[12:03] <tony_> Shadowpillar:what?
[12:03] <Shadowpillar> I am quite fucked atm
[12:03] <Shadowpillar> I dunno what happened
[12:03] <Millenniumgroup> maybe you did a sudo su?
[12:04] <Shadowpillar> but suddenly, all non-root users couldnt access anything
[12:04] <Shadowpillar> yet
[12:04] <Millenniumgroup> just type exit or kill -k
[12:04] <gratuit> how do I change my locale?
[12:04] <Chris_in_the_uk> any idea what tgetent is?
[12:04] !lilo:*! Hi all. New channel. Through some oversight, we apparently have no fetchmail channel. Well, we had no fetchmail channel. Now we do. Please stop by ##fetchmail if you're interested in helping. Thanks! :)
[12:04] <Shadowpillar> Millenniumgroup no
[12:04] <soundray> gi2k15, well, my suggestion was as a workaround to the umount problem. It cuts out automounting altogether.
[12:04] <Millenniumgroup> k
[12:04] <Shadowpillar> it affected everything
[12:04] <Shadowpillar> I'm on my debian server box
[12:04] <Shadowpillar> atm
[12:04] <Shadowpillar> my ubuntu system's permissions are fine it seems
[12:04] <Shadowpillar> but my user cannot login
[12:04] <gi2k15> soundray, yes, yes. At least now I can umount the CD. Thanks for your help o/
[12:05] <mkyb14> is there a way in install a ".run" file... it's the ati installer for linux drivers and i dont' know the console command
[12:05] <Shadowpillar> no services can start
[12:05] <jack_> Hi! Can I recursively download only .jpg files from a given url using wget?
[12:05] <_jason> !enter
[12:05] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[12:05] <vegos> soundray
[12:05] <soundray> phiqtion, what if you press the down key before enter on the black screen? Maybe it'll start the rescue kernel?
[12:05] <khalif> I'm trying to delete a folder that I created in my home folder. When I right-click on it and select move-to-trash, I get an error message that says that the trash protocol doesn't support creating folders. What gives?
[12:05] <Shadowpillar> can anyone please help me?
[12:05] <vegos> soundray, that kernel is the wrong one i think
[12:05] <phiqtion> soundray, what does it do?
[12:05] <vegos> soundray, any ideas what the kernel could be, the initrd was right though
[12:05] <Shadowpillar> I'm in deep shit here
[12:06] <Taa5i_> Has anyone ever had success in enabling an HP NetRaid controller under Ubuntu?
[12:06] <Shadowpillar> any suggestions?
[12:06] <_jason> mkyb14, have you tried to follow the wiki instruction for ati first?
[12:06] <soundray> phiqtion, it boots a moderately fail-safe kernel that may not have your reboot problem.
[12:06] <Shadowpillar> so
[12:06] <phiqtion> soundray, and what should i do there?
[12:06] <Shadowpillar> Why has ubuntu decided to lock me out of my own system?!
[12:06] <Shadowpillar> what the hell is this?
[12:06] <Chris_in_the_uk> !tell Shadowpillar about enter
[12:06] <Shadowpillar> all non-root users are affected
[12:06] <soundray> vegos, are you talking about the grub cmd line?
[12:07] <vegos> yeah
[12:07] <mkyb14> the ones that someone sent me were for fixing a nonbootable computer
[12:07] <Shadowpillar> ....
[12:07] <erUSUL> Shadowpillar, none i can think of,. if you somehow changed the permisions of everything you will have to reinstall
[12:07] <sorush20> is there a panoramic image creator in Linux ubuntu repositories?
[12:07] <Chris_in_the_uk> Shadowpillar: can you log in as root?
[12:07] <vegos> the initrd.img-2.6 is there
[12:07] <soundray> phiqtion, revert the changes that got you into trouble.
[12:07] <Shadowpillar> erUSUL here's the thing, none of the permissions are changed
[12:07] <_jason> ubotu, tell mkyb14 about ati
[12:07] <jen_> erUSUL: Read the guide, enabled all of the repositories, but am getting an error message on the terminal..   http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5442
[12:07] <vegos> soundray, kernel-2.6 isnt
[12:07] <khalif> how do I delete a folder?
[12:07] <Shadowpillar> Chris_in_the_uk only if I do init=/bin/sh
[12:08] <Shadowpillar> I try to sudo to my user and it denies me access
[12:08] <Chris_in_the_uk> why?
[12:08] <Chris_in_the_uk> Shadowpillar: what is the error message?
[12:08] <Shadowpillar> Chris_in_the_uk permission denied.
[12:08] <soundray> vegos, the line is (hd0,2)/boot/vmlinuz-2.6 TAB. I'm really sorry.
[12:08] <khalif> I created a folder in my home foldeer that I would now like to delete...
[12:08] <Shadowpillar> no services are starting...
[12:09] <jeff_> hey guys
[12:09] <Chris_in_the_uk> Shadowpillar: i'd reinstall
[12:09] <thomerz> !w32codecs
[12:09] <vegos> soundray, hahah no problem thanks
[12:09] <erUSUL> jen_, have you synaptic running while running the command?
[12:09] <Chris_in_the_uk> Shadowpillar: but then again, i'm lazy
[12:09] <Shadowpillar> ..so now I have to delete all my data....
[12:09] <Shadowpillar> this is great.
[12:09] <jeff_> lol every time i come in here, somebody is telling some one about win32codecs
[12:09] <Chris_in_the_uk> shadowpillar: can you ssh in?
[12:09] <Shadowpillar> this is real fucking great.
[12:09] <Shadowpillar> no
[12:09] <flankk> Shadowpillar, relax.  There is no root account in Ubuntu.  In fact, you will no longer be needing your user account.  All those services were just a waste of startup time, so I removed them.
[12:09] <Shadowpillar> nothing will start
[12:09] <mkyb14> how do i find my kernal version for thier commands on that ati installer
[12:09] <Shadowpillar> stfu flankk
[12:10] <erUSUL> Shadowline, copy the files somewhere with a livecd (knoppix is great)
[12:10] <jeff_> does anybody know why nautilus sucks?
[12:10] <Millenniumgroup> mkyb14 uname -r
[12:10] <Chris_in_the_uk> shadowpillar: you could always put the harddrive into a working linux box, mount it and copy the files
[12:10] <Seveas> Shadowpillar: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct
[12:10] <jen_> erUSUL: the first time I tried it, I did. This time I tried it... http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5443
[12:10] <Shadowpillar> .....
[12:10] <erUSUL> Shadowline, and in rescue mode
[12:10] <mwe> there is a root account, but it has no password, by default
[12:10] <jeff_> its just so weak compared to konqueror
[12:10] <jen_> erUSUL: That one is after closing synaptics
[12:10] <jeff_> is there any way to make nautilus betteR?
[12:10] <Millenniumgroup> wow Shadowpillar what a nice guy...
[12:10] <Chris_in_the_uk> yes
[12:10] <Seveas> jeff_, apt-get source nautilus, hack away, send patches upstream
[12:10] <Chris_in_the_uk> ...
[12:11] <_jason> mkyb14, hat step?
[12:11] <_jason> mkyb14, what*
[12:11] <mkyb14> uh this step
[12:11] <mkyb14> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-<your-kernel-version> xorg-driver-fglrx
[12:11] <jeff_> seveas: lol i could try, but i meant in the form of downloadable patches or something
[12:11] <blastermaster> is there a way to get a soundblaster live 24bit to do harware sond mixing?
[12:11] <flankk> Shadowline, I'd be inclined to help you if you calmed yourself and presented the situation clearly.
[12:11] <Seveas> jeff_, nautilus is fine the way it is :)
[12:12] <soundray> flankk, he's quit.
[12:12] <kuraia> Shadowpillar, you can do a root count in ubuntu
[12:12] <_jason> mkyb14, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[12:12] <erUSUL> jen_, you do not have multiverse enabled. try sudo apt-get update
[12:12] <mkyb14> 5.10
[12:12] <Seveas> jeff_, another option: make a wishlist of improvements and file it at the gnome bugzilla
[12:12] <Millenniumgroup> mkyb14 cat /proc/version
[12:12] <Millenniumgroup> tells you what version you got (kernel) ^
[12:12] <ale3hs> any backport for Rhythmbox 0.9.2 ???
[12:12] <jen_> erUSUL: Done.
[12:12] <_jason> mkyb14, I don't see that command in the wiki?  what number step?
[12:12] <jeff_> seveas: lol yeah its alright, but it feels so weak. ive gotten used to tabbed browsing and stuff in konq
[12:12] <jeff_> seveas: yeah i think im gonna do that
[12:12] <jen_> erUSUL: Said it fetched 4B in 6s. heh..
[12:13] <erUSUL> jeff_, try again the install
[12:13] <erUSUL> jen_, try again the install
[12:13] <erUSUL> jen_, if it fails is becouse you do not have enabled multiverse
[12:14] <holycow> i haveto say, the ubuntu wiki contains some of the most accessible linux/debian info i've ever seen
[12:14] <Millenniumgroup> wiki is always great :9
[12:14] <mkyb14> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[12:14] <Millenniumgroup> wiki is always great :)
[12:14] <mkyb14> first on on the list
[12:14] <n0dl> brb
[12:14] <os2mac> so I login into www.slashdot.org and look what was on the frontpage: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/12/05/191205&tid=131&tid=146
[12:14] <_jason> mkyb14, the wiki instruction are a lot easier
[12:15] <jeff_> is there any way to make Gaim better? i mean with nice features?
[12:15] <flankk> holycow, I agree.  My productivity gains every time I am configuring wiFi and I stumble accross random goatses.
[12:15] <holycow> is upower bootslpash going to replace usplash in ubuntu?
[12:15] <Ninjaa> hi guys, im trying to extract a xampp thats on my desktop into the opt folder, and i cant get the command line right though. anyone help ?
[12:15] <Seveas> os2mac, you should read the fridge moet often
[12:15] <holycow> flankk, rofl
[12:15] <jen_> erUSUL: I went to synaptics, chose setting->repositories... Every box is checked. Is that not where I enable it?
[12:16] <erUSUL> !tell jen_ about repos
[12:16] <erUSUL> jen_, iirc multiverse can not be enabled that way
[12:16] <_jason> jen_, press "add" after settings->repos and select multiverse
[12:16] <soundray> Seveas, sent off the CDs today. Am I efficient or what? :-D
[12:17] <admod> hi all
[12:17] <Seveas> soundray, you're good :)
[12:17] <jen_> _jason: Ahh, I see now.
[12:17] <acer_> question for everyone
[12:17] <Mabus06> Can anyone help me put an .avi file onto a cd or dvd I can watch on a dvd player? I don't care if it's a vcd using cds, or a dvd, or whatever. I just want this 673.9mb avi file viewable on a dvd player, willing to take whatever route possible to do so.
[12:17] <GigaClon> can some help me with a error?
[12:18] <_jason> acer_, 42
[12:18] <Biscuitian_Warhe> How do I setup a PPP connection to use CHAP MD5 authentication?
[12:18] <Mabus06> GigaClon, be a *tad* more specific.
[12:18] <acer_> _jason ??
[12:18] <GigaClon> how do I fix this problem?./widelands: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.6' not found (required by ./widelands)
[12:18] <soundray> Mabus06, come on it's an ERROR! :)
[12:18] <outofsight> Question: How do I change my laptop's functional volume key to control front speaker instead of PCM?
[12:18] <_jason> acer_, nvr mnd, go ahead and ask your question for everyone
[12:18] <vegos> soundray, when i do the vmlinuz command it says that it must be an absolute pathname
[12:19] <deus> I got a mess here i have an api missmatch when i try to start up X, i need to choose a newer nvidia kernel module, that can be used with the X module 7667. How can i choose the correct module?
[12:19] <Seveas> GigaClon, by not using the software
[12:19] <Killer_Smurf> outof sight when you find out let me know
[12:19] <StEllis> Do I need the install cd or the live cd for this case: I had to reformat my windows partition and now I cant boot to ubuntu
[12:19] <Seveas> GigaClon, you should recompile it to work on your system
[12:19] <acer_> Question:  I installed Breezy about a week ago and eventually got CD/DVD playback working but recently no disks will mount
[12:19] <GigaClon> ok
[12:19] <Mabus06> Can anyone help me put an .avi file onto a cd or dvd I can watch on a dvd player? I don't care if it's a vcd using cds, or a dvd, or whatever. I just want this 673.9mb avi file viewable on a dvd player, willing to take whatever route possible to do so.
[12:19] <acer_> .....also USB drives willnot mount
[12:20] <soundray> vegos, (hd0,2)/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-whatever is an absolute pathname.
[12:20] <flankk> StEllis, either.  There's a sticky in the forums about reconfiguring Grub if you can't boot properly.
[12:20] <vegos> yes
[12:20] <soundray> vegos, are you sure you've entered it correctly?
[12:20] <vegos> soundray, i enter kernel (hd0,2) /boot/vmlinuz-2.6-12-10-386
[12:21] <StEllis> flankk do you know what forum or have a link?
[12:21] <soundray> vegos, don't say you added a space between ) and / ! :)
[12:21] <acer_> Question:  I installed Breezy about a week ago and eventually got CD/DVD playback working but recently no disks will mount also USB drives will not mount.  Can anyone help?
[12:21] <vegos> haha yeah
[12:21] <vegos> ok
[12:21] <vegos> brb
[12:22] <bllx> well I seem to have successfully changed my UID number; now I can access my OS X hfs+ home folder with full privs, and everything looks ok in Ubuntu
[12:22] <acer_> _jason were you implying that i needed to take a number?
[12:22] <mkyb14> this is way to compliecated just to install some ati drivers for a 9800
[12:22] <Seveas> acer_, no
[12:22] <acer_> lol
[12:22] <mkyb14> i'm getting lost between the wiki and what the xoom site is saying i need to install
[12:22] <acer_> o ok
[12:22] <chrisx1> hey i need help installin touch screen drivers anyideas?
[12:23] <ubuntu_> trying to grub-install and get the fallowing error: /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[12:23] <bllx> one odd thing though: in Admin->Users and Groups my user is no longer listed, unless I check the box 'Show all Users'
[12:23] <ubuntu_> google is'nt much use
[12:23] <zlack> i have some troubles installing ubuntu. i get on tty4 buffer i/o error on device sr0, logical block XXXX. anyone a workaroud? my cd drive is working good for other os'es
[12:23] <Seveas> acer_, can you mount them manually with pmount/are you in the plugdev group/did tou change fstab?
[12:23] <bllx> is that bad?
[12:23] <deus> I got a mess here i have an api missmatch when i try to start up X, i need to choose a newer nvidia kernel module, that can be used with the X module 7667. How can i choose the correct module?
[12:24] <flankk> StEllis, you'd have to search for it.  All you need to do is boot up to a terminal, 'man grub' and edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst to your liking.  I'd tell you exactly how but I don't know your configuration.
[12:24] <sorush20> what is good podcast software?
[12:24] <nihonin> morning all
[12:24] <owner989> wow you guys wont believe this
[12:24] <owner989> im playing files in windows media player
[12:24] <owner989> under wine
[12:24] <nihonin> lol
[12:24] <StEllis> flankk I dont know how to boot up to the terminal though thats the thing
[12:24] <BockBilbo> bye!
[12:24] <Seveas> owner989, ewwwwwww gross :p
[12:24] <flankk> sorush20, a software that will play podcast streams robustly.
[12:25] <owner989> mp3s and asf files play
[12:25] <owner989> its sweet
[12:25] <sorush20> flankk: yes
[12:25] <owner989> it even pulls updates from ms site
[12:25] <owner989> haha
[12:25] <nihonin> brb
[12:25] <soundray> owner989, and you're not ashamed to admit it, wow!
[12:25] <mkyb14> has anyone here installed ati drivers and know an easier way than the confusing wiki and the xoom site
[12:25] <owner989> lol soundray
[12:25] <InterceptoR> can anyone help me
[12:25] <owner989> i can use IE6 and wmp in linux now
[12:25] <bllx> so thanks Agrapaj, it worked
[12:26] <Seveas> owner989, can you send your wine config to dennis@ubuntu.com
[12:26] <soundray> owner989, I play my asf files with cat >/dev/dsp. Sound is suboptimal, but hey!
[12:26] <mwe> and what do you wan't that crap for? :)
[12:26] <bllx> Agrajag
[12:26] <owner989> seveas, sure
[12:26] <Seveas> I need to get IE6 working since I do lots of web development
[12:26] <Seveas> and that crappy thing always needs hacks
[12:26] <owner989> seveas i did so much tweaking with wine today
[12:26] <acer_> Seveas:  pmount doesn't work/ dont know about the group (how would i check?)/no i dont believe i changed the fstab
[12:26] <nihonin> back
[12:26] <erUSUL> mkyb14, i use radeon (amn radeon) drivers with my 9250
[12:26] <Seveas> acer_, the 'id' command
[12:26] <saik0> Seveas: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/
[12:26] <acer_> ok
[12:27] <acer_> uid=1005(admod) gid=106(admin) groups=20(dialout),21(fax),24(cdrom),25(floppy),26(tape),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),105(scanner),106(admin
[12:27] <owner989> seveas which files would you like me to send you
[12:27] <Seveas> saik0, thanks
[12:27] <bllx> bye all
[12:27] <Seveas> owner989, saik0 made it unneccessary, but thanks anyway :)
[12:27] <acer_> Seveas: i am in that group..plugdev
[12:27] <soundray> bye bllx
[12:27] <flankk> StEllis, Pop in your live CD and use the terminal there if you don't feel comfortable using the install CD.  Works the same way.  Understand that you are booting off the CD, and editing files on the drive, so you will need to mount the partition and 'chroot' to use the system binaries.
[12:28] <zlack> anyone some help for me?
[12:28] <Seveas> acer_, weird, can you put your syslog on the pastebin right after plugging in a usb device
[12:28] <soundray> zlack, what with?
[12:28] <zlack> i have some troubles installing ubuntu. i get on tty4 buffer i/o error on device sr0, logical block XXXX. anyone a workaroud? my cd drive is working good for other os'es
[12:28] <hkais> next try, anyone here who uses a nforce4 mainboard under ubuntu?
[12:28] <acer_> give me a minute
[12:28] <nihonin> i have installed ubuntu 5.10 an have a icon on my desktop to my windows partition but i cant access as a messagbe box appears stating i dont have the permissions to access the partition, i know how permissions work but as i dont have the root passwrd is there any other way around this problem
[12:28] <zlack> soundray: with that :)
[12:28] <owner989> seveas, i installed wmp9 in wine but no video would play until i installed the unofficial fraunhofer codec
[12:29] <owner989> now videos and mp3s play
[12:29] <soundray> zlack, a SATA drive by any chance?
[12:29] <zlack> i tried to turn my DMA on / off but didnt work
[12:29] <vegos> soundray, i got it booted but im in Busybox and dont know how to edit in this
[12:29] <zlack> soundray:" yeah its a sata drive
[12:29] <soundray> vegos, try nano.
[12:29] <saik0> owner989, ok. seriously now. why? theres plenty of (better) ways to get multimedia support in linux
[12:29] <zlack> ibm thinkpad t43p
[12:30] <vegos> i cant cd /boot
[12:30] <Ninjaa> Hello, can some please help me with a tar.gz file i have on my desktop. I need to extract it to opt
[12:30] <zlack> soundray: its installing but it already took 1 hour for like 6% :(
[12:30] <erUSUL> nihonin, how have you mounted the partition?
[12:30] <phiqtion> nalioth: busy?
[12:30] <soundray> vegos, what did your kernel line complete to?
[12:30] <kbrooks> Ninjaa, tar -xzvf f.tar.gz -C /opt
[12:30] <erUSUL> Ninjaa, tar xvzf file.tar.gz -C /opt/
[12:30] <saik0> Ninjaa: tar xvzf foo.tar.gz
[12:31] <vegos> soundray, vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-386
[12:31] <soundray> zlack, that'll be 16 hours for the full install then...
[12:31] <Ninjaa> lol three to choose from
[12:31] <germancito> hello
[12:31] <nihonin> it mounts at startup 5.10 found it an created the mount point while installing
[12:31] <zlack> soundray: any workaround?
[12:31] <kbrooks> erUSUL, i win
[12:31] <flankk> nihonin, my guess is that you actually do _not_ have permission to access your NTFS partition.  Users don't by default.
[12:31] <germancito> have anyone here played crossfire????
[12:31] <germancito> i'm trying to install it but don't know how
[12:32] <nihonin> i have my mp3 on that drive an would like to access them
[12:32] <erUSUL> kbrooks, XD
[12:32] <soundray> vegos, good, that's one to remember. Next time you boot with grub cmd, add the parameter root=/dev/hda3 to the kernel line.
[12:32] <soundray> zlack, do you know your SATA chipset?
[12:32] <ale3hs> guys, there is any backport for Rhythmbox 0.9.2 in Ubuntu??
[12:32] <chrisx1> hey i need help installin touch screen drivers anyideas?
[12:32] <goldrak> hi
[12:33] <vegos> soundray, so it should be vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-386 root=/dev/hda3?
[12:33] <nihonin> ho goldrak
[12:33] <goldrak> I need a program for desing a flash film
[12:33] <nihonin> hi i mean
[12:33] <mwe> nihonin: you probably need umask=0222 in /etc/fstab
[12:33] <Kevin> how do i install ubuntu?
[12:33] <soundray> vegos, yes.
[12:33] <goldrak> i see uira but i can't donwload
[12:33] <mwe> nihonin: under the mount option for the ntfs partition
[12:33] <saik0> nihonin, sudo gedit /etc/fstab and change defaults to  defaults,umask=022
[12:33] <goldrak> we know another program
[12:33] <zlack> soundray: its a sonoma chipset
[12:34] <Kevin> i put in the iso disc i made with nero and now it sais A:/
[12:34] <germancito> anyone here who can help me installing crossfire please
[12:34] <mwe> saik0: umask=0222 it should probably be
[12:34] <saik0> nihonin, 0222 typo
[12:34] <owner989> saik0. well its just an experiment really, i am actually surprised how well wm9 plays files under linux
[12:34] <phiqtion> how can edit the menu.lst file from the live cd?
[12:34] <soundray> zlack, doesn't ring a bell. Perhaps you can search the web and see whether the corresponding driver module reads any kernel boot options.
[12:34] <nihonin> ok thanx will give that a go
[12:35] <Kevin> i put in the iso disc i made with nero and now it sais A:/
[12:35] <acer_> Seveas: I am getting logging failures see here>  http://paste.uni.cc/8344
[12:35] <nihonin> aprreciate ur help
[12:35] <flankk> owner989, under wine?  Wine can execute almost all Windows binaries nowadays.
[12:35] <Kevin> how am i helping you?
[12:35] <zlack> soundray: i tried to google for the error, but didn't find any stuff except people experiencing dvd play errors (movies) and enabeling DMA with hdparm
[12:35] <soundray> zlack, apart from Google, http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html may be a starting point.
[12:35] <Ninjaa> guys its saying no such file, but xampp is sitting there on my desktop : /
[12:35] <nihonin> bbl
[12:35] <Kevin> somebody else...
[12:36] <Kevin> i put in the iso disc i made with nero and now it sais A:/
[12:36] <soundray> zlack, well maybe something like nodma will fix it for your installation.
[12:36] <owner989> flankk, yes
[12:36] <jen_> erUSUL: Thanks. I've got that working now.... but........ hehe... I went to the device manager, and my sound device is showing up, volume is up, speakers hooked up, etc..... Any ideas?
[12:36] <ale3hs> copying files from ext3 to NTFS is so slooow ....!!! why??
[12:36] <phiqtion> how can edit the menu.lst file from the live cd?
[12:36] <zlack> soundray: can i still do that during the install?
[12:36] <halibut> Can anyone help me test my firefox extension (must use firefox 1.5 and gmail) (think skins for gmail)
[12:36] <Kevin> i made the disc with a file called "ubuntu-5.10-install-i386"
[12:36] <soundray> zlack, I'm afraid not.
[12:36] <zlack> soundray: i tried to hdparm -d0 /dev/cdroms/cdrom0
[12:37] <saik0> ale3hs, using captive NTFS? or that ext windows app?
[12:37] <zlack> soundray: didn't work out
[12:37] <saik0> ale3hs, either way. both are slow
[12:37] <redguy> Kevin: did you boot from that cd?
[12:37] <soundray> zlack, from Alt-F2?
[12:37] <Kevin> me? saik0?
[12:37] <zlack> soundray: can i do it before the install starts?
[12:37] <jen_> erUSUL: Nevermind, Solved it. *huggles* Thanks for all the help~!
[12:37] <ale3hs> saik0, dont tell me... ridiculous slow
[12:37] <saik0> Kevin, nope
[12:38] <obruxo> agur
[12:38] <soundray> zlack, yes, by default it boots ubuntu, I think, so you enter ubuntu nodma or something like that.
[12:38] <phiqtion> how can edit the menu.lst file from the live cd?
[12:38] <ale3hs> saik0, but i just run the default cp.. should I add any parameters?
[12:38] <Ninjaa> guys im putting "tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.5.0.tar.gz -C /opt" into my terminal but its saying file not found, yet the file is there on the desktop!!
[12:38] <soundray> zlack, it's documented in the various boot screens.
[12:38] <erUSUL> jen_, no problem tha's why we are here to help others
[12:39] <flankk> and give "huggles"
[12:39] <erUSUL> Ninjaa, tar xvfz Desktop/xampp-linux-1.5.0.tar.gz -C /opt
[12:39] <vegos> soundray, i got back to ubuntu (thank god)
[12:39] <soundray> vegos, well done.
[12:39] <vegos> soundray, i guess i need to research into the wireless thing
[12:39] <ale3hs> somebody that uses Rhythmbox 0.9.2 plz???
[12:40] <soundray> vegos, do you want to try another kernel?
[12:40] <vegos> ?
[12:40] <saik0> ale3hs. Ifortunetly I'be never had to use captive NTFS, so I dont know
[12:40] <vblanton> o0o there are a lot more people here than in #kubuntu
[12:40] <ale3hs> saik0, thanx anyway
[12:40] <Ninjaa> erUSL,thats perfect buddy, thanks
[12:40] <soundray> vegos, could you post the output from "dpkg -l linux-image*' to http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl please.
[12:40] <mwe> vblanton: yeah, but most of them don't like kde :)
[12:41] <vegos> sure
[12:41] <sorush20> does konqueror have flash available for it?
[12:41] <Glossary> i never installed a firewall but it always sais that there is one
[12:41] <Glossary> how to remove it?
[12:41] <Glossary> :p
[12:41] <zlack> soundray: trying now, will let you know
[12:41] <vegos> soundray, is that a pipe or L
[12:42] <soundray> vegos, L
[12:42] <ale3hs> Glossary, I got the same problem with gtk-gnutella
[12:42] <edwin> whois edwin
[12:42] <Glossary> ale3hs, did you fix it?
[12:42] <soundray> edwin, /whois
[12:42] <vegos> i have to restart first and then i will post
[12:42] <ale3hs> it says i am firewalled .. I removed the firewall from my router.. still same problem
[12:42] <phiqtion> how can edit the menu.lst file from the live cd?
[12:42] <edwin> thanks
[12:43] <Glossary> :/
[12:43] <Glossary> this sucks
[12:43] <ale3hs> Glossary, but check ur router firewall
[12:43] <Glossary> ale3hs, how
[12:43] <mwe> phiqtion: mount the partition and edit the file
[12:43] <soundray> vegos, why restart?
[12:43] <vblanton> sorush20: you can download flash for konqi at the macromedia webpage ;)
[12:43] <phiqtion> mwe: how how how
[12:44] <ale3hs> Glossary, from the router web-page ..u have an cable/dsl connection and a router, rt?
[12:44] <Glossary> yea
[12:44] <halibut> can anyone please help me test my firefox extension?  ( http://rivex.no-ip.org/extension.jpg ), must use gmail and FF1.5
[12:44] <fr500> hello
[12:44] <Kevin> glossery
[12:44] <flankk> phiqtion, mount, chroot, vim.  Prefix with man if you must.
[12:44] <ale3hs> Glossary, ok just login to ur router IP address with firefox
[12:44] <Glossary> k done
[12:44] <fr500> a question, can i force synaptic to fetch an especific version of a program, gnome bluetooth for instance, 0.51 worked better for me
[12:44] <mwe> phiqtion: sudo mkdir /mnt/foo && sudo mount /dev/bar /mnt/foo, /dev/bar being the device of your disk
[12:44] <ale3hs> Glossary, and u will find a firewall option
[12:45] <soundray> fr500, yes, there is some option for that in the Package menu, I think.
[12:45] <mwe> phiqtion: then browse to the menu.lst file under /mnt/foo
[12:45] <mwe> phiqtion: and edit it with sudo
[12:46] <acer_> Seveas: here is the system log when i inserted the USB drive..... http://paste.uni.cc/8345
[12:46] <flankk> phiqtion, it's better to "chroot" then after you're done editing the file, make sure the changes are commited by issuing the "grub" command.  That's it.
[12:47] <sorush20> vblanton: I have a list of plugins in the Konqueror browser plugins configuration menu but they just can't become active for some reason?
[12:47] <ale3hs> how i register my nick in freenode irc ?? coz I cant join some channels with unregistered nick
[12:47] <DarthFrog> Hi folks.
[12:48] <DarthFrog> Can anyone help me with fglrx configuration?
[12:48] <DarthFrog> Dmesg reports;[4294771.877000]  [fglrx]  Internal AGP support requested, but kernel AGP support active.
[12:48] <DarthFrog> [4294771.877000]  [fglrx]  Have to use kernel AGP support to avoid conflicts.
[12:48] <DarthFrog> [4294771.877000]  [fglrx]  Kernel AGP support doesn't provide agplock functionality.
[12:48] <DarthFrog> [4294771.877000]  [fglrx]  AGP detected, AgpState   = 0x1f004e0b (hardware caps of chipset)
[12:48] <DarthFrog> [4294771.878000]  [fglrx:firegl_unlock]  *ERROR* Process 7373 using kernel context 0
[12:48] <Quest-Master> ale3hs: /ns REGISTER help
[12:48] <vegos> soundray, i posted
[12:48] <ale3hs> Quest-Master,  k
[12:49] <Quest-Master> Err
[12:49] <Quest-Master> ale3hs: /ns HELP register
[12:49] <hkais> i cannot believe it, isn't here anybody who uses a nforce4 chipset?
[12:49] <soundray> vegos, okay, loading now...
[12:49] <ale3hs> yea Quest-Master coz now my passwd is help :)
[12:49] <hkais> which chipsets are used here in the chan?
[12:50] <halibut> Think ubuntu skin for gmail,  can anyone please help me test my firefox extension?  ( http://rivex.no-ip.org/extension.jpg ), must use gmail and FF1.5
[12:50] <hkais> I search for any success or failiure reports with the boards...
[12:50] <SWAT> how can I burn a 4GB image on a 4.5GB DVD? k3b won't do it because the image is too big. I guess it has something to do with iso/udf. Anyone help?
[12:50] <DarthFrog> hkais: My motherboard uses an SiS chipset.
[12:50] <ubuntuking> try nerolinux
[12:51] <DarthFrog> SWAT: you could just use cdrecord manually.
[12:51] <acer_> can anyone help me?
[12:51] <phiqtion> mwe: help me. i dont understand hda0,0. gparted states ubuntu is located in hda6. so is it hd6,0 or hd0,6?
[12:51] <transgress> DarthFrog: why not just use the kernel agp?
[12:51] <ross_> can anyone walk me through installing a printer driver? I'm brand new to Ubuntu
[12:51] <hkais> anybode else here who knows his chipset? maybe someone with a nforce 4?
[12:52] <DarthFrog> transgress: the kernel agpgart is loaded.  But I can't get 3D working. :-(
[12:52] <vblanton> SWAT: you could look into the k3b options for anything regarding it, check the help manual ,or ask on the k3b forums ;) If you really want k3b to do it for you.
[12:52] <flankk> !tell transgress about printer
[12:52] <snorks> phiqtion: i think that would be hd0,6
[12:52] <fr500> soundray, so repos have previous versions stored?
[12:52] <vblanton> DarthFrog: do you have the drivers installed?
[12:52] <transgress> flankk: not me.  tell the person who asked
[12:52] <snorks> phiqtion: iirc grub using 0 instead of a, so hda = hd0
[12:52] <vblanton> DarthFrog: for your video card
[12:52] <SWAT> DarthFrog, do you know by any chance if cdrecord manually works for sure?
[12:52] <transgress> flankk: that'd be ross_
[12:52] <zlack> soundray: how can i check the dma status of my sata drive? with hdparm as well?
[12:52] <phiqtion> snorks: thanks
[12:52] <SWAT> ubuntuking, nerolinux is non-free
[12:53] <soundray> fr500, yes, as long as the corresponding releases are supported.
[12:53] <DarthFrog> vblanton: Yes, both sis_agp and fglrx, as well as agpgart.
[12:53] <DarthFrog> SWAT: It works. :-)
[12:53] <ross_> Can you walk me through installing a printer driver
[12:53] <vegos> soundray, what have you decided?
[12:53] <SWAT> vblanton, thanks, but it hasn't to do anything with the options
[12:53] <erUSUL> acer_, try pmount /dev/sdf1
[12:53] <soundray> zlack, yes
[12:53] <ubuntuking> i know
[12:53] <SWAT> DarthFrog, ow, that's all I needed to know. :)
[12:53] <DarthFrog> vblanton: But I only get get indirect rendering. :-(
[12:53] <vblanton> SWAT: ok, well cdrecord works, you just need to figure out how to use it ;)
[12:53] <ubuntuking> SWAT, but it works pretty good and u can get a key online
[12:53] <soundray> vegos, I was looking for a k8 specific kernel. You don't seem to have one available.
[12:54] <vegos> soundray, your speaking foreign to me
[12:54] <soundray> vegos, my hope was that that would fix all your timekeeping and wifi trouble.
[12:54] <SWAT> DarthFrog, I thank you. Now I'm almost hooked on console again :)
[12:54] <acer_> erUSUL, it mounted something but i have no access to that mounted drive
[12:54] <chrisx1>  Am i able to watch vcd's on ubuntu?
[12:54] <vblanton> DarthFrog: and your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is loading the right driver?
[12:54] <DarthFrog> The hardest part about using cdrecord is figuring out the correct syntax for addressing the drive.
[12:54] <DarthFrog> vblanton: Yes.
[12:54] <SWAT> ubuntuking, thanks for the information though. I'm trying to keep to the GPL/free stuff :)
[12:55] <soundray> Isn't there a kernel for AMD64 CPUs even in the i386 install?
[12:55] <vblanton> DarthFrog: stumped. never dealt with SIS before
[12:55] <SWAT> vblanton, thanks you too :)
[12:55] <vblanton> soundray: well.. there should be
[12:55] <edwin> what directory is the kernel located in?
[12:55] <dekela> Hi everybody!
[12:55] <edwin> hi
[12:55] <ubuntuking> SWAT, that is the only program that is non free
[12:55] <vblanton> SWAT: np
[12:55] <DarthFrog> vblanton: fglrx is loaded, sis_agp is loaded, agpgart is loaded, the fglrx xorg driver is being used.
[12:55] <soundray> vblanton, which repository please?
[12:55] <ubuntuking> SWAT, i burn a lot of dvd s and i get a lot of coaster with k3b
[12:55] <mwe> I have to look up the options for cdrecord everytime I use it. that's why I use a frontend now
[12:55] <vegos> soundray, will this bug be fixed in future kernels
[12:55] <dekela> anyone knows how can I fix my grub install?  I have windows on /dev/sda1 and ubuntu on /dev/sda2
[12:55] <DarthFrog> k3b is a frontend to cdrecord, I believe.
[12:56] <vblanton> soundray: bummed if I know.. lemme check
[12:56] <chrisx1>  Am i able to watch vcd's on ubuntu?
[12:56] <ross_> I'm brand new to ubuntu. Can someone walk me through installing a printer drive
[12:56] <erUSUL> acer_, check under media
[12:56] <halibut> can anyone please help me test my firefox extension?  ( http://rivex.no-ip.org/extension.jpg ), must use gmail and FF1.5
[12:56] <DarthFrog> dekela: what's wrong with grub?
[12:56] <acer_> erUSUL, where would i be checking?
[12:57] <soundray> vegos, give me a min please
[12:57] <vblanton> soundray: Oh! RIght! If you use a k8 kernel it'll assume your running in 64bit and everything will screw up..
[12:57] <acer_> erUSUL, You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "sdf1".
[12:57] <dekela> First, When I boot Ubuntu it has the wrong root settings, So I need to get into prompts and set it to (hd2,1)
[12:57] <erUSUL> acer_, under what dir did pmount mount the usb thingy
[12:57] <vblanton> soundray: so, when you run a 32 bit operating system on a 32/64bit cpu you'll have to stick to 32bit kernels. :)
[12:58] <dekela> Daedric, Then when I try to boot windows
[12:58] <vblanton> soundray: as I do
[12:58] <soundray> Thanks vblanton. Sorry, vegos, what I had in mind isn't a solution.
[12:58] <dekela> Daedric, I get error 13 partition not known
[12:58] <DarthFrog> dekela: edit the file /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:58] <erUSUL> acer_, ?? have you done sudo pmount??
[12:58] <dekela> DarthFrog, The first issue I know how to solve
[12:58] <acer_> erUSUL, yes i used sudo, and it is in the media dir
[12:58] <dekela> Daedric, My problem is with the windows
[12:58] <soundray> vegos, you could reinstall using the amd64 architecture, but IF it even solves your timer problems, you get others instead.
[12:59] <phiqtion> DarthFrog: i need to tell grub that the new splash screen is located in hda6. so its hd0,6 ?
[12:59] <DarthFrog> dekela: No.  hdo,5
[12:59] <DarthFrog> dekela: grub is zero based.
[12:59] <DarthFrog> err, hd0,5
[12:59] <erUSUL> acer_, pumount it and pmount it as a normal user
[12:59] <soundray> vegos, for example, I'm running amd64 and I can't load any flash content in firefox anymore. Not that it hurts much, but there are a few annoyances of this type.
[12:59] <dekela> Daedric, Sorry? So (hd0,5) means?
[12:59] <acer_> erUSUL, everything was automounting yesterday or the day before and now this?!
[01:00] <taxman> hi all new to Ubuntu, been using free software for many years. Is there a goo guide to slimming down a new install memory wise? Googling didn't find much
[01:00] <vblanton> goodbye all
[01:00] <taxman> *good
[01:00] <soundray> thanx again vblanton
[01:00] <DarthFrog> 'Bye vblanton, and thanks for trying to help.
[01:00] <acer_> erUSUL, error message says::  Error: device /dev/sdf1 is already mounted to /media/sdf1
[01:00] <wickedpuppy> taxman, try top ...
[01:00] <soundray> taxman, is that for RAM or hard disk mainly?
[01:01] <vblanton> dekela: hd0,5 is the 6th partition on your first hard drive.
[01:01] <taxman> prob is I have 128MB, even installed to hd it's pretty slow
[01:01] <taxman> livecd was unusable
[01:01] <chrisx1> yay i got vcd/dvd workin
[01:01] <wickedpuppy> taxman, i got 512 and i don't feel good
[01:02] <taxman> of course the pretty gnome desktop is great, but man is sucks resources
[01:02] <acer_> erUSUL, it is "mounted" but it root access only
[01:02] <erUSUL> acer_, pumount /media/sdf1 note the *u*
[01:02] <acer_> erUSUL, ok tying that now
[01:02] <erUSUL> acer_, use sudo
[01:02] <soundray> taxman, one well supported slim choice is xubuntu.
[01:02] <taxman> I'm particularly impressed that the install was flawless and everything on this laptop works perfectly
[01:02] <jirwin> hello
[01:02] <DarthFrog> taxman: You might try Xfce instead of Gnome/KDE. There is a Ubuntu project for running Xfce on Ubuntu.
[01:02] <dekela> Daedric, But I have only 2 Parttions on my sda
[01:03] <DarthFrog> dekela: So where did /dev/hda6 come from?
[01:03] <taxman> yeah, sounds decent, but it's a separate project right?
[01:03] <soundray> taxman, xubuntu is that project  that DarthFrog is talking about.
[01:03] <jirwin> to get breezy to install on my laptop, I had to send "acpi=off vga=771 noapic nolapic" through the installer
[01:03] <DarthFrog> soundray: Thanks.
[01:03] <jirwin> installed, and everything works great but the batter
[01:03] <jirwin> battery*
[01:03] <dekela> Daedric, I didnt say anything about /dev/hda6
[01:04] <jirwin> any ideas on how to get this to work?
[01:04] <acer_> erUSUL, i am using su root, and it just unmounted sdf1
[01:04] <dekela> Daedric, I have 2 SATA drives the first has 2 partitions
[01:04] <acer_> is there a difference btw sudo and su root??
[01:04] <zlack> soundray: i tried several options => linux ide=nodma, linux dma=off
[01:04] <dekela> Daedric, sda1 (NTFS windows)
[01:04] <zlack> any other suggestions?
[01:04] <cary> i have a quick question for anyone: i am soon likely to own a PC (as opposd to my macs) that will basically be for tinkering. ill want to boot unbuntu, win2000/xp?, and possibly mac osX86. how hard is it to make a machine dual/triple boot between these things? anyone know or have a link to a place that is fairly detailed?
[01:04] <erUSUL> acer_, now pmount it as a normal user no root
[01:04] <dekela> Daedric, sda2 Ubuntu
[01:04] <soundray> zlack, linux nodma ?
[01:04] <cary> ubuntu would be the primary OS in theory
[01:05] <acer_> erUSUL, or it mounted with access to me
[01:05] <taxman> cary, triple booting is pretty straightforward
[01:05] <DarthFrog> cary: it's easy with Ubuntu. Install Windows first, then Ubuntu.
[01:05] <Hobbsee> cary: tripple booting is easy - i do it on this laptop, just install ubuntu last
[01:05] <taxman> but mac osX86 you'll have to know how to do
[01:05] <DarthFrog> cary: The Ubuntu installer will detect Windows and configure grub to dual-boot. No idea about OSX.
[01:05] <soundray> zlack, did you read the boot help?
[01:05] <Hobbsee> ah yes, OSX might be an issue
[01:05] <acer_> erUSUL, should have read "OK it mounted with access to me"
[01:06] <taxman> cary, you did know macos is supposed to be protected for mac machines only right?
[01:06] <cary> darthfrog, taxman, hobbsee, what all doyou boot?
[01:07] <DarthFrog> taxman: Do you happen to know if Windows and Linux will run on mac x86 machines?
[01:07] <Hobbsee> cary: xp, kubuntu breezy, kubuntu dapper
[01:07] <taxman> cary, ubuntu only on this machine, winders on work machine
[01:07] <DarthFrog> cary:  kbuntu breezy, WinXP.
[01:07] <zlack> soundray: yes, but it didn't say anything about dma
[01:07] <zlack> soundray: you mean @ the cd or online?
[01:07] <soundray> zlack, CD
[01:08] <erUSUL> acer_, well done
[01:08] <zlack> soundray: yes i read that, didn't find anything
[01:08] <soundray> zlack, online is always an option of course.
[01:08] <cary> taxman, yes, but i thought about tinkering with it. its more a thing ot fill time as a hobby. im not really a developer but i like a challenge
[01:08] <soundray> zlack, sorry, wrong pointer.
[01:08] <zlack> soundray: google sucks for me at the moment
[01:08] <acer_> erUSUL, ok that worked for me but this computer is destine for a family that would not be able to do that everytime
[01:08] <soundray> zlack, hold on...
[01:08] <zlack> ok
[01:09] <acer_> erUSUL, is there anyway to get automount working again?
[01:09] <chrisx1> hey ubuntu stuck my CD rom drive any idea how to open?
[01:09] <cary> hobbsee, taxman, darthfrog : what are the main diffrences to the common observer between KDE and Gnome (im really asking about ubuntu and kubuntu, but the difference is the same right? kubuntu is just ubuntu with kde)
[01:09] <acer_> paperclip?
[01:09] <Hobbsee> chrisx1: "eject" into a terminal
[01:09] <erUSUL> acer_, a reboot does not help??
[01:09] <chrisx1> ok
[01:09] <chrisx1> ty
[01:09] <Milk_> Anyone know why my clock keeps loosing time despite being setup to ping time servers?
[01:09] <DarthFrog> Chrisx_:  Alt-F2 and type "eject"
[01:09] <chrisx1> done it ty
[01:09] <acer_> erUSUL, i can try brb...
[01:09] <erUSUL> acer_, sometimes the kernel makes thing weird
[01:09] <Hobbsee> cary: kubuntu is ubuntu with kde, without gnome
[01:10] <acer_> erUSUL, normal restart?
[01:10] <cary> hobbsee, i know, but i dont get the difference between KDE and Gnome
[01:10] <DarthFrog> cary: yes, Kubuntu is KDE on Ubuntu. With gnome-support, though. :-)
[01:10] <taxman> cary, to a longtime kde user and new gnome user, nothing too serious, just menu placement, and names of config utilities
[01:10] <devint> when is firefox 1.5 going to be backported?
[01:10] <erUSUL> acer_, yes
[01:10] <cary> taxman, ahha. thanks
[01:10] <acer_> erUSUL, ok see you on the flipside
[01:10] <DarthFrog> cary: Gnome is C based, KDE is C++
[01:10] <Coweater> devint: when someone does it
[01:10] <esses> hi all
[01:10] <Hobbsee> cary: if you dont konw which one you wont, just install both one the one operating system - ie, install ubuntu, then "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" then you can switch as you feel like
[01:10] <cary> darthfrog, ah. thanks
[01:10] <taxman> cary, they are different mind you, but nothing major to a new user
[01:11] <DarthFrog> cary:  KDE is more easily used by someone from Windows.  GNOME is more limited in configuration.
[01:11] <olive> (gnome powaaa)
[01:11] <r3tex> what kind of partitioning can the install-cd do?
[01:11] <animal> i want to run dualscreen or at least get my other screen to work with my laptop. can anybody help me? is there any way to get dualscreen working in ubuntu?
[01:11] <Kelsey23> Gnome is eaiser to use
[01:11] <taxman> if both libraries are installed, each can run both kde and gnome programs
[01:11] <esses> Did anyone try to mount an amiga cd with ubuntu? I've no permission to see folders contents!!!
[01:11] <Hobbsee> r3tex: well, what are you looking to do?
[01:11] <Kelsey23> I strongly recommend it to anyone who hans't used GNU/Linux before
[01:11] <DarthFrog> cary: Try both and see which one you like.
[01:12] <soundray> zlack, have a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-85950.html, scroll down to jvictor. It pertains to the live cd, but I'm pretty sure it translates to the install cd.
[01:12] <r3tex> Hobbsee:  do i have to allocate free-space prior to installing, or can the install-cd resize partitions?
[01:12] <cary> taxman, i would call me a new user for sure. i reconfigured my powerbook a while back (with a lot of help from this forum) and dual booted ubuntu and os x, but PPC architecture is fairly limiting. i never go tmy sound right
[01:12] <Kelsey23> cary: don't try to install KDE on Ubuntu though ;-P
[01:12] <cary> darthfrog, will do
[01:12] <DarthFrog> cary: install Ubuntu, which will give you GNOME by default. Then use Synaptic to install the kde-desktop package.
[01:12] <Hobbsee> r3tex: it can resize :)
[01:12] <r3tex> Hobbsee:  what filesystems can it resize?
[01:12] <esses> uheee uheee no answers?
[01:12] <Hobbsee> Kelsey23: whyever not?
[01:12] <DarthFrog> cary: Then you'll have both GNOME and KDE installed.  At the login screen, you can choose which one to run.
[01:12] <acer_> erUSUL, trying it now
[01:13] <Kelsey23> Hobbsee: it does not work well
[01:13] <zlack> soundray: i already found that, didn't work out for me unfortunally
[01:13] <Kelsey23> Hobbsee: for me, KDE hijacked GTK
[01:13] <Hobbsee> r3tex: um...most of them, you might want to google it
[01:13] <Hobbsee> Kelsey23: i've run both many times before without a problem.  not sure how kde could hijack gtk - and i suspect you mean qt anyway
[01:13] <Hobbsee> !start a desktop war
[01:13] <ubotu> blackbox is much better than kde!
[01:13] <Kelsey23> Hobbsee: yes....QT was rendering GTK things
[01:13] <acer_> erUSUL, no luck
[01:14] <Kelsey23> Hobbsee: I dont know, it was wierd
[01:14] <cary> darthfrog, oh nice. sounds good. i used to boot win2k and i ran LiteStep as a shell replacement and i loved tweaking the .rc files to completely manipulate my UI. linux is a bit more intimidating though. especially since use of a command line donest yet make sense to me. i mean i know how to some degree but i dont see the point. i guess maybe when i find a reason to ssh ill get it?
[01:14] <Hobbsee> Kelsey23: in what programs?  that sounds odd
[01:14] <Kelsey23> Hobbsee: any GTK application
[01:14] <soundray> zlack, sorry, out of ideas. Unless you could temporarily put in an old PATA CD-ROM drive.
[01:14] <DarthFrog> cary: before installing the kde-desktop package, edit the file "/etc/apt/source.list" and put this line in "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main". Then you'll get the latest & greated KDE.
[01:14] <zlack> soundray: i'm affraid not :P
[01:14] <zlack> soundray: thanks though
[01:14] <Hobbsee> DarthFrog: you mean the /etc/apt/sources.list :P
[01:15] <erUSUL> acer_, :( i can not help you further i'm afraid
[01:15] <DarthFrog> cary: You don't absolutely need to use the command line. But that's where the power is. :-)
[01:15] <DarthFrog> Hobbsee:  Thank you. :-)
[01:15] <Hobbsee> DarthFrog: no problems
[01:15] <esses> At least an amiga channel bitte :-)
[01:15] <soundray> zlack, one more suggestion before I leave: http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/dists/warty/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/ch04s03.html
[01:15] <zlack> soundray: isn't there a netinstall iso or something? so i can wait a bit and do the rest from the inet?
[01:15] <taxman> did I say I'm extremely impressed with Ubuntu so far? Well I am
[01:15] <acer_> erUSUL,  anyone who can?  anyother reccomendations?
[01:15] <Hobbsee> Kelsey23: there's a howto on ubuntu forums about how to make the qt apps look GTK'ish - you might want to check it out
[01:15] <soundray> zlack, yep, just my line of thought.
[01:16] <zlack> :)
[01:16] <DarthFrog> cary:  And if you really want to understand Linux (rather than the GUI), you'll do it from the command line.
[01:16] <zlack> soundray, thanks allot for your effort
[01:16] <Kelsey23> Hobbsee: It's not that I want to make a QT app look GTKish
[01:16] <Juhaz> Kelsey23, Hobbsee http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=9714
[01:16] <cary> darthfrog, right. thats why i want to use it. but im not sure like..where i can. im a photogrpaher and i play with comptuers (have for 12 years) and im not sure if there IS a real application for me and linux. but damnit i want to learn it
[01:16] <erUSUL> acer_, no :(
[01:16] <Kelsey23> Hobbsee: But when I went back to XFCE, QT was rendering all of the widgets
[01:16] <Hobbsee> hmmm...weird
[01:16] <Kelsey23> very
[01:16] <acer_> erUSUL, reinstall Ubuntu from scratch?
[01:16] <Hobbsee> Juhaz: that's installed by default in breezy, as part of kubuntu-desktop
[01:16] <soundray> zlack, I know what it's like when Google sucks. It sucks, doesn't it? :-)
[01:17] <zlack> :-)
[01:17] <DarthFrog> cary: For what purposes do you use a computer?
[01:17] <cary> darthfrog, ive got basic commands like switching dir's and copying etc down (sort of. i knwo its not hard, i just dont have a functional linux machine right now), but i dont really KNOW what id need to utilize it haha
[01:17] <soundray> Bye zlack & everyone.
[01:17] <zlack> soundray, it sucks when i don't get the information i want. its not google's fault ;)
[01:17] <Seveas> cary, as photographer you'll love F-spot
[01:17] <zlack> laters!
[01:17] <cary> darthfrog, mostly i edit photos in photoshop. and i keep files organized
[01:17] <cary> seveas, hey! been a long time, what is F-spot?
[01:17] <DarthFrog> cary:  You'll use the GIMP then. :-)
[01:18] <Seveas> cary, F-spot is the best photo organizer in town
[01:18] <Seveas> and gimp is a decent photo editor
[01:18] <DarthFrog> cary: Which is available in Windows.
[01:18] <acer_> DIFFERENT QUESTION:  Is there anyway to set themes universally for all users or must it be done on an individual basis?
[01:18] <Seveas> acer_, individual
[01:18] <acer_> ugh
[01:18] <Juhaz> Hobbsee, yes, and it's obviously what causes the behavior Kelsey23 is seeing. KDE probably writes gtkrc and sets that theme in there, or something
[01:18] <vegos> soundray, thanks for all the help
[01:19] <cary> darthfrog, yeah i am half-familiar with GIMP (in as much as i know its called the free linxu equiv to photoshop), but ill be keeping my dual G5 for my editing. so functionally ill thikn o fhte PC as a toy i guess
[01:19] <acer_> looks like ill be reinstalling ubuntu
[01:19] <DarthFrog> Seveas:  Surely that's wrong.   Re-setting the default theme would do it universally, no?
[01:19] <ilba7r> !info jedit
[01:19] <n0dl> does anyone know how to view email using an MTA MUA and something like fetchmail?
[01:19] <quadra> [ !unload : no module with this name ] 
[01:19] <Seveas> DarthFrog, as long as everyone uses the default...
[01:19] <n0dl> or does anyone know where i can find a good tut on it?
[01:19] <Seveas> quadra, ?
[01:19] <cary> darthfrog, partly just so i have windows to be compatible outside of virutal pc, but i really want to know linux and what have you
[01:19] <DarthFrog> Seveas: Right.  But that wasn't what was asked. :-)
[01:19] <acer_> DarthFrog, how can i reset the default?
[01:20] <Kelsey23> Juhaz; Hobbsee: yes.....if I picked a GTK theme to use in KDE, XFCE would do that too, but not allow me to switch
[01:20] <cary> seveas, sounds nice.
[01:20] <cary> seveas, do you use it?
[01:20] <taxman> is there an ipod control app for linux?
[01:20] <DarthFrog> acer_: Don't know, sorry, I've never changed it.  It'll be in /etc somewhere, though.
[01:20] <Seveas> cary, I use both gimp and F-spot sometimes
[01:20] <acer_> DarthFrog, time to start playing, =)
[01:20] <Seveas> !help
[01:20] <cary> seveas, i am googling fspot now, but what is it about it that you like?
[01:20] <acer_> !help?
[01:20] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, acer_
[01:20] <DarthFrog> acer_:  Have fun!  Good attitude. :-)
[01:21] <Seveas> cary, install it and you'll see :)
[01:21] <Seveas> (Really, the best way to see why it's great is using it)
[01:21] <taxman> cary, have you run the livecd yet? its the easy way to try it
[01:21] <acer_> for an average family coming from XP, would you use Kubuntu, Xbuntu, or Ubuntu?
[01:21] <cary> seveas, haha. awesome. now to get a hold of this PC box and getting a system goign
[01:21] <DarthFrog> cary: Ubuntu will make it easy for you to use Linux.  But you'll only understand Linux by working at the command line.
[01:21] <DarthFrog> acer_: Kubuntu.
[01:22] <acer_> why?
[01:22] <acer_> just looking for some opinions
[01:22] <cary> taxman, i have actually fully installed ubuntu (hoary) before on my powerbook, just am out of practice and i removed linxu from the pb a while back
[01:22] <DarthFrog> acer_: Because KDE is more accesible for XP users.
[01:22] <n0dl> acer_:its hard to install Xubuntu in the beginnig
[01:22] <DarthFrog> accessible. :-)
[01:22] <n0dl> acer: mostly becuase you have to know how to install xubuntu from the base (meaning you need some CLI experience)
[01:22] <DarthFrog> accessable??
[01:22] <odla> n0dl: xubuntu is easy to install...just type server at the boot options and then apt-get install xubuntu-desktop gdm
[01:22] <acer_> n0dl, that is not the issue, the end result use is my consern
[01:23] <DarthFrog> No, that's wrong. :-)
[01:23] <cary> darthfrog, yeah. i enjoy the idea of a GUI thats secure (one of many reasons i use a mac) but id love to "get" linux, and actually use it for what its worth
[01:23] <odla> n0dl: and you're in business
[01:23] <Kelsey23> # apt-get install xubutnu-desktop
[01:23] <DarthFrog> cary: then runlevel 1 is your friend. :-)
[01:23] <n0dl> odla: to get xubuntu-desktop you must first activate univ and multi
[01:23] <acer_> anyone else?
[01:23] <odla> n0dl: fine...it's still easy ;)
[01:23] <Remdul> Hey guys, I need some help installing Ubuntu. :(
[01:23] <cary> darthfrog, that was basically greek
[01:23] <acer_> Kubutu, Xbuntu, or ubuntu/
[01:23] <acer_> ?
[01:23] <sorush20> guys  my aRts is slow in the swf playback ? any ideas
[01:24] <DarthFrog> cary: It will be for a while.
[01:24] <Kelsey23> Xubutnu
[01:24] <acer_> why?
[01:24] <acer_> must support your answer
[01:24] <Kelsey23> XFCE has a nice UI
[01:24] <acer_> for an average family coming from XP
[01:24] <Kelsey23> and it is light on system resources
[01:24] <esses> Bye
[01:24] <n0dl> exactly
[01:24] <Kelsey23> what are your system specs?
[01:24] <rendi> hi what command to cpy directory
[01:24] <cary> darthfrog, good to know. once i get the basics down so that the WIKI makes sense to some degree maybe i can start learning
[01:24] <n0dl> xubuntu is visually pleasing like KDE but without the RAM suck
[01:25] <Kelsey23> acer_: what are your PC's specs?
[01:25] <Toma-> kde is more family friendly with the kde-education and toys packages
[01:25] <DarthFrog> cary: runlevels are the system configurations that Linux can load on booting. In Debian-based distributions (which Ubuntu is), runlevel 1 is the maintenance configuration (i.e. no GUI) and runlevel 2 is the normal operating configuration (i.e. the full GUI environment).
[01:25] <acer_> Kelsey23: not my system let me look
[01:25] <n0dl> GNOME is fairly buggy for some reason (or at least from my experience)
[01:25] <cary> darthfrog, taxman, seveas, other people: thanks for the help. time to get to work again!
[01:25] <n0dl> but i also agree with Toma-
[01:25] <Remdul> I'm trying to install Ubuntu, when i put in the CD and boot, it comes to the Hit enter to continue installing screen. When I hit enter it reboots my computer. Memtest has ran 111 tests and no errors.... The CD is official Ubuntu v5.04.
[01:25] <DarthFrog> cary: Have fun. :-)
[01:25] <Kelsey23> acer_: ok
[01:25] <cary> darthfrog, ah. i understand. sort of like booting to openfirmware in os x
[01:26] <n0dl> KDE is rather family friendly and is suggested by many including the linux mag for new linux users:TUX
[01:26] <Toma-> also, kde-games are alot better than gnome-games
[01:26] <Kelsey23> TUX sucks!
[01:26] <DarthFrog> TUX rocks!
[01:26] <cary> hahaha
[01:26] <Kelsey23> it is all fanboyism!!!
[01:26] <acer_> Kelsey23: specs here>  http://shopping.yahoo.com/p:HP%20Media%20Center%20PC%20m300y%20Desktop%20Computer:1991345571:page=details;_ylt=AljLBbnL.TqRnpGO4.2sQlqgn7sF;_ylu=X3oDMTA5ZW01N2htBHNlYwNiZ3NpYg--
[01:26] <bimberi> rendi: cp -r /path/to/dir /path/to/copy (-r means it will do all subdirs)
[01:26] <Seveas> Kelsey23: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct
[01:26] <DarthFrog> Kelsey23: But it is very helpful.
[01:26] <cary> SuperTux rocks. that is to say, mario bros rocks
[01:26] <n0dl> whatever im just saying kubuntu is user/family friendly none the less
[01:26] <Remdul> Anyone have any suggestions?
[01:27] <n0dl> acer_: i would say kubuntu because altough i dont exactly like it... It is fairly easy to install if you only have an ubuntu disk
[01:27] <n0dl> acer_: i mean cd
[01:27] <DarthFrog> cary: actually, why don't you take out a free subscription to TUX magazine?
[01:27] <Broam> Anyone want to help a poor newb fsck his / superblock?
[01:27] <DarthFrog> cary: It's distributed as a PDF file via email.
[01:27] <DarthFrog> cary: You'll find it very useful.
[01:28] <Broam> Heh.  I've installed Breezy on this P2 laptop that was a handmedown.  When I update with apt-get or synaptic...eventually it just hangs.  Hard
[01:28] <DarthFrog> TUX subscription:  https://www.ssc.com/tx/subs/DigitalSub.php
[01:28] <Remdul> I am running out of ideas... and I am getting stressed out, because I need this computer running.
[01:28] <chrismurf> anybody here using iFolder with bonjour support?  I know avahi doesn't work, trying to figure out what the approved p2p method is for iFolder.
[01:28] <stinkydave> hello, has anyone had any luck getting asterisk 1.2 running on Ubuntu??
[01:28] <USCRyan> How do i get my users list on the left hand side of the screen to show back up?
[01:29] <linux_newb> hey whats the command to install ssh
[01:29] <nihonin> have worked out my problem with mounting windows partition thanx for your help
[01:29] <Broam> I suspected the disk, but two nights of spinrite level 5 saying it's clean make me think something else.  Anyway, I did a 120 reset on it and of course I blow the superblock.  It's the / partition so I can't fsck it from itself.  I'm thinking the best way to do it is to fsck from the install disk, but I'd like some pointers.
[01:29] <Broam> Thanks
[01:29] <Remdul> I'm trying to install Ubuntu, when i put in the CD and boot, it comes to the Hit enter to continue installing screen. When I hit enter it reboots my computer. Memtest has ran 111 tests and no errors.... The CD is official Ubuntu v5.04.
[01:29] <Toma-> linux_newb: apt-get install sshd
[01:30] <Toma-> actually, its just ssh
[01:30] <Kels> test
[01:30] <linux_newb> thanks
[01:30] <Broam> Remdul:  What brand of computer is it?
[01:30] <acer_> lol kels
[01:30] <Remdul> Compaq
[01:30] <Kels> heh, Hitlerish ban
[01:30] <Sanne> linux_newb: ssh install is also nicely covered in the starter guide you have on your panel under the help icon. It's under networking/ssh server.
[01:31] <acer_> how good is freevo and myth TV?
[01:31] <Shady> Hey, I'm rather new to linux and I really like it. I would like to change over completely but because of my ipod is there an ipod program or something that can run ituns?
[01:31] <Broam> Shady:  Try gtkpod
[01:31] <acer_> is there any FrontRow, CenterStage, iTheater apps for linux?
[01:31] <Shadowpillar> ...
[01:31] <Shadowpillar> now then
[01:31] <Toma-> Kels: id say ban evasion is also frowned upon ;)
[01:31] <Seveas> Kels, I am not a bot...
[01:31] <Kels> oh
[01:32] <Seveas> and the H word is off limits
[01:32] <tonyyarusso> What's the easiest/safest way to upgrade a kernel?
[01:32] <Toma-> acer_: and what do all thopse apps do?
[01:32] <Shady> Broam, thanks!
[01:32] <Remdul> Its a cheap $500 computer from Walmart.
[01:32] <acer_> hold on
[01:32] <acer_> Media Centers
[01:32] <cary> one more thing: is it hard to make it so a (rather large) firewire drive is the boot drive from this (powerbook) computer? and further, is it even rational to thikn of having a PPC and an x86 boot partitions on the same firewire drive?
[01:32] <Broam> np, Shady.
[01:32] <Toma-> acer_: totem does it all
[01:32] <felipe_> How do I make menus semi-trasparent?
[01:32] <USCRyan> *question* im trying to install nvidia drivers.....it says im running an x-server and need to run on a different level.  can anyone help me understand/do this?
[01:32] <Broam> Remdul:  Hmm.  Check to see if your BIOS has virus protection turned on.  It's probably a red herring, but it's worth a shot.
[01:32] <acer_> http://www.apple.com/imac/frontrow.html
[01:33] <Remdul> I will check.
[01:33] <Shadowpillar> no permissions are changed in my system, all I know is I ran checkinstall, I had to stop it halfway through, and suddenly, BAM. I lost all access to my system, root is the only user that works, I'm using the ubuntu lice cd
[01:33] <Broam> !info breezy fsck
[01:33] <quadra> [ !unload : no module with this name ] 
[01:33] <Shadowpillar> live*
[01:33] <Shadowpillar> so, can anyone help me?
[01:33] <robotgeek> Seveas: the bcm drivers need 2.6.15 kernel. i'm going to hold on till it works for more people :)
[01:33] <Broam> Shadow:  Why did you stop it halfway through?  (Mostly curious)
[01:33] <tonyyarusso> !kernel upgrade
[01:34] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, tonyyarusso
[01:34] <tonyyarusso> !kernel
[01:34] <Shadowpillar> Broam, put in some bad data when it asked for docs, when I was pressing enter I hit the ' key
[01:34] <Seveas> robotgeek, good call :)
[01:34] <Remdul> Broam, I dont have the ability to turn that on/off in the bios, I dont see.
[01:34] <Shadowpillar> Broam, then suddenly, I lost all permissions
[01:34] <acer_> any official bittorent dls of Breezy?
[01:34] <linux_newb> whats the command to install nvidia drivers
[01:34] <Shadowpillar> any way to re-configure some base packages to fix this?
[01:34] <Broam> Hmm.  I wonder if it reset the permissions before you stopped it.  I know I blew up locale settings once
[01:34] <Shadowpillar> nothing has been altered
[01:34] <Seveas> !tell linux_newb about nvidia
[01:34] <acer_> is it any faster than the Ubuntu site?
[01:34] <linux_newb> ty
[01:34] <Toma-> acer_: also, theres mythtv... but its pretty complicated to install
[01:34] <robotgeek> Seveas: i'm guessing a year till it becomes stable and commonplace. maybe a post to slashdot will help, eh
[01:35] <USCRyan> *question* im trying to install nvidia drivers.....it says im running an x-server and need to run on a different level.  can anyone help me understand/do this?
[01:35] <Seveas> hehe
[01:35] <acer_> Toma- i was looking at that but...looks amateur
[01:35] <Toma-> its not amateur. it can do all sorts of crazy things
[01:35] <acer_> the screen shots look amateur i should say
[01:35] <Broam> Shadowpillar:  I'm unsure how the default user permissions are set up in ubuntu.  I don't even know if there's a wheel group
[01:36] <Toma-> what do you mean by that?
[01:36] <Seveas> Broam, there is one :)
[01:36] <Broam> Phew. :)
[01:36] <taxman> DarthFrog taxman: Do you happen to know if Windows and Linux will run on mac x86 machines?
[01:36] <Broam> Seveas:  Is fsck on the install disk?  I see a 'rescue mode' here in the expert install
[01:36] <Seveas> Broam, by default the user is in the following groups:
[01:36] <Seveas> uid=1000(dennis) gid=1000(dennis) groups=20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),44(video),103(plugdev),107(lpadmin),108(scanner),117(admin),118(fuse),1000(dennis)
[01:36] <acer_> Toma- nm i was thinking frevo
[01:36] <acer_> freevo*
[01:36] <Toma-> oic :)
[01:36] <Remdul> Broam: Any ideas?
[01:36] <Seveas> (except not in fuse)
[01:37] <taxman> DarthFrog, I missed that question, but I really don't know either
[01:37] <Shady> How does ubotu work?
[01:37] <sorush20> guys what is the breezy backports repositories?
[01:37] <Broam> Remdul:  Do you have any other 'live CD's?
[01:37] <Shadowpillar> like I said
[01:37] <Shadowpillar> No permissions have been changed
[01:37] <Shadowpillar> at all
[01:37] <Toma-> sorush20: there are none :O
[01:37] <taxman> Shady, what do you want to know?
[01:37] <Shadowpillar> this is what's lame
[01:37] <Remdul> Broam: several. Try the live or install?
[01:37] <Shadowpillar> reiserfs
[01:37] <Shadowpillar> I use reiserfs
[01:37] <sorush20> Toma-: you sure?
[01:38] <Toma-> positive
[01:38] <Broam> Remdul:  Try live first.
[01:38] <Shadowpillar> could that be the issue with permissions?
[01:38] <Shady> taxman, If it is possible to use windows games with some time of emulator
[01:38] <bimberi> Shady: ubotu is a "blootbot" (essentially a perl script)
[01:38] <Shadowpillar> so no one can help me....
[01:38] <Broam> Remdul:  I have a gateway 2k machine that refuses to acknowledge one of my SuSE live CD's as having a valid boot sector, but it'll take a FreeBSD cd.  Ubuntu is untested (I gave it to my parents when SuSE didn't want to install--and that's what I was using at the time)
[01:38] <Shadowpillar> this is great. just great
[01:38] <Seveas> ubotu, tell Shady about yourself
[01:39] <acer_> Toma- how hard is the setup?
[01:39] <Broam> Shadowpillar:  I'm sorry.  I'm not that skilled.  You could probably try adding your main user account to a few extra groups
[01:39] <acer_> Toma-, using synaptic wont make it easier?
[01:39] <Broam> ubotu, tell Broam about yourself
[01:39] <Remdul> Broam: It still rebooted
[01:39] <Shadowpillar> Broam, been ther, done that
[01:39] <Shadowpillar> there*
[01:39] <Shadowpillar> Broam, and it isnt my user group only
[01:39] <Shadowpillar> it's ALL users except root
[01:39] <Shadowpillar> like I said
[01:40] <USCRyan> *question* can anyone tell me how to change the runlevel so i can install nvidia drivers?
[01:40] <Broam> Shadow:  Did you try running the process again but letting it go to completion this time?
[01:40] <taxman> Shady, I've heard the two "emulators" based on wine work pretty well, but you need a pretty fast machine if you want to use 3d games
[01:40] <Broam> Remdul:  Hmm.  Both live and install cause your machine to instantly reboot
[01:40] <Shadowpillar> Broam, yes
[01:40] <Remdul> Broam: Yes.It loads 2 files, says Ready. then reboots.
[01:41] <Shadowpillar> Broam, I'm think I might have messed up the filesystem, only thing I can think happened
[01:41] <Broam> Remdul:  Is there any prompt for a menu?
[01:41] <ExDead> hello all
[01:41] <Remdul> Broam: theres a Boot: then I have a cursor. the command prompt from the CD
[01:42] <Broam> Remdul:  If you hit enter, or do you not get a chance to do so?
[01:42] <Shady> taxman, thanks for the info I'll try it out later, Just wanted to see if I can just be free of having to OS's on the comp.
[01:42] <ExDead> hey people i need help with synaptic
[01:42] <chrisx1> any1 know of a good FTPd server?
[01:42] <evian> Anyone running firefox 1.5? I get this grey empty rectangle region at the bottom of the window, wasting a lot of screen space.
[01:42] <Broam> ExDead:  Ask away
[01:42] <Remdul> Broam: If I hit enter, it reboots. If I type something in, it doesnt.
[01:42] <Broam> evian:  I'm running FF 1.5 in Dapper (don't run Dapper)
[01:42] <Broam> Remdul:  Type "linux"
[01:42] <navarone> is room frozen?
[01:42] <Remdul> Broam: Reboots to that too
[01:43] <evian> yeah I'm using Breezy
[01:43] <Broam> Remdul:  memtest?
[01:43] <taxman> Shady, most likely, though I'm locked in so far for some stuff my wife needs. I may try crossover now that I have the space for it
[01:43] <Broam> evian:  I've seen about 2-3 hacks for getting FF 1.5 in Breezy
[01:43] <Remdul> from the prompt?
[01:43] <Broam> Remdul:  yeah
[01:43] <Remdul> Broam: I ran memtest86 for 36 hours.
[01:43] <chrisx1> any1 know of a good FTPd server?
[01:43] <ExDead> i cant update nothing
[01:43] <Remdul> Broam: I'll run it from the cd then, I guess
[01:43] <Broam> Remdul:  I take it you have two machines? :)
[01:44] <Remdul> Broam: Yup
[01:44] <Broam> Shadowpillar:  I'm about out of ideas short of reinstall (which is bad)
[01:44] <bimberi> chrisx1: vsftpd gets recommended a lot
[01:44] <wby87> hi everyone:)
[01:44] <Broam> Remdul:  Wait
[01:44] <Broam> that works?
[01:44] <Remdul> Broam: Aight.
[01:44] <chrisx1> bimberi, its easy to configure?
[01:45] <Broam> Remdul:  So memtest works, but neither install utility does
[01:45] <jen_> Quick question... How do I change default applications? Say I want to change my default media player to Mplayer instead of Totem...
[01:45] <Remdul> Broam: Yeah
[01:45] <bimberi> chrisx1: sorry, i don't know (i use ssh for file transfers)
[01:45] <Remdul> Broam: it's got me all sorts of confused.
[01:45] <Broam> Remdul:  Can you boot another CD from the drive and have it work, say a windows install disk or something?
[01:45] <ubuntu> su people
[01:45] <Broam> Enter password:
[01:45] <ubuntu> sup*
[01:45] <Broam> :)
[01:46] <Remdul> Broam: I've gotten windows to work. I never went through with the installation though
[01:46] <chrisx1> bimberi,  ok
[01:46] <Shady> Well since I'm here, and learning, what was your number one resource for learning to use linux (anyone?)
[01:46] <Broam> Right, don't agree to the EULA and you can try to take it back
[01:46] <Broam> Remdul:  Is this brand spanking new?
[01:46] <ubuntu> is there a free emulator for dx9 games?
[01:46] <Broam> Shady:  I don't feel like my skills are advancing at work
[01:46] <Shadowpillar> Broam, luckily my personal data is all saved to separate partitions
[01:46] <Remdul> Broam: No, it has a corrupted version of Windows on it.
[01:46] <Broam> Shadowpillar:  Smart man
[01:47] <bimberi> Shady: #ubuntu :P
[01:47] <Shadowpillar> cedega
[01:47] <Shadowpillar> or wine
[01:47] <chrisx1> is google down?:o
[01:47] <Shadowpillar> isnt perfect
[01:47] <ubuntu> no  not  5 minutes agop
[01:47] <tonyyarusso> Shady: Google under Windows first (softmodem-needed a driver), then lots more of Google plus IRC here.
[01:47] <wby87> google is never down:)
[01:47] <chrisx1> takin a while
[01:47] <Hobbsee> Shady: ubuntuforums.org wiki.ubuntu.com and google
[01:47] <__ngmlinux> anyone here know anything about networking cameras or ethernet in Ubuntu?
[01:47] <Broam> Remdul:  Hmm.
[01:47] <Shadowpillar> Broam, my home directory isnt, but most of my major files are
[01:47] <ubuntu> thats why i know i have a connection problem if google doesnt come up
[01:48] <Shadowpillar> luckily I can just back it up if worse comes to worst
[01:48] <Broam> Shadowpillar:  Since you can get in as root, I'd say back your stuff up in preperation, in case your attempts to fix it screw the pooch
[01:48] <chrisx1> try it
[01:48] <chrisx1> www.google.com
[01:48] <__ngmlinux> what do I need to do if I want to hook up a network camera directly to a PC? other than a crossover cable?
[01:48] <__ngmlinux> there must be some kind of routing required
[01:49] <wby87> question: is there any threads/posts/etc. that guides you through installing dual system ubuntu? (windows/ubuntu)
[01:49] <Broam> Remdul:  There might be some hardware address that linux is probing and it's causing it to error out, panic, and reboot
[01:49] <ubuntu> does anybod know a work around when port forwarding doesnt work for hosting a game?
[01:49] <Hobbsee> !tell wby87 about dualboot
[01:49] <Remdul> Broam: Any way I can fix that, do you think?
[01:49] <Broam> Remdul:  You can specify things to have it ignore when you pass it boot options
[01:50] <Broam> since i can get into the boot menu on Theodora (my misbehaving laptop) lemme try Ring TFM and see what I can find
[01:50] <Remdul> Broam: I tried linux ACPI=off, still did. Is that the wrong thing?
[01:50] <Broam> Remdul:  That'd be power management.  If this box is 2003 or newer you shouldn't have to do that
[01:50] <Remdul> Broam: I think its 2002
[01:50] <Broam> Hmm...
[01:50] <Broam> lemme read manuals.  Theo can at least boot off of CD
[01:51] <Hobbsee> wby87: it's pretty simple :)
[01:51] <Broam> Let's see....
[01:51] <Broam> Remdul:  And I quote:
[01:51] <ubuntu> is winamp linux ready?
[01:51] <navarone> Remdul, what's wrong...I jsut got herer
[01:51] <ubuntu> or do i have to run wine
[01:51] <Broam> "If your system hangs when booting, and the last message you see iss "aec671x-detect.." try
[01:51] <Broam> gdth=disable:y
[01:52] <Hobbsee> ubuntu: why not use xmms? it's very similar to winamp
[01:52] <Toma-> ubuntu: cant you use a linux alternative?
[01:52] <Broam> ubuntu:  You can also use Beep Media player
[01:52] <Remdul> Navarone: I cant get the linux to install on my computer. It reboots every time I tell it to install, no matter how.
[01:52] <ubuntu> does it have a built in library to browse?
[01:52] <Toma-> but yes, winamp is wine ready
[01:52] <Broam> Navarone:  Remdul can run memtest, we're thinking the kerne's panicking
[01:52] <Broam> Remdul:  Try this...
[01:52] <SCMark> I just got a dell 2005FPW LCD.  How do I configure it so that I'm not using 1280x1024 anymore
[01:52] <navarone> is it a laptop?
[01:52] <Shady> should i always after right-click/eject to get cds out?
[01:52] <__ngmlinux> anybody know how to setup networking for a direct camera?
[01:53] <Broam> linux gdth=disable:y noapic nolapic
[01:53] <Shadowpillar> Checking Semantic tree:
[01:53] <Shadowpillar> finished
[01:53] <Shadowpillar> No corruptions found
[01:53] <navarone> Shady...taht's the way it works I think
[01:53] <__ngmlinux> SCMark try OS X
[01:53] <Shadowpillar> ....great.
[01:53] <__ngmlinux> 1280x1024 is pretty good for linux
[01:53] <Broam> Well it's not corrupt
[01:53] <Shady> navarone, sorry for the bad grammar, couple of things going on.
[01:53] <dwhsix> SCMark: once someone tells you, tell me too... I asked the same question about 2 hours ago with no response...
[01:53] <Nihil85> hallo!
[01:53] <Broam> Hola~
[01:54] <navarone> Shady...nm as long as you ignore more typos...;)
[01:54] <Broam> Remdul:  Any love?
[01:54] <ubuntu> has compiling become automated for linux yet? like a .exe file etc.
[01:54] <SCMark> __ngmlinux: I don't think you understand the question
[01:54] <navarone> more=my
[01:54] <Remdul> Broam: Whatcha mean? Try what?
[01:54] <Broam> Try booting with the command:
[01:54] <Toma-> SCMark: try hitting ctl-alt-+ or -
[01:54] <Broam> linux gdth=disable:y noapic nolapic
[01:54] <tonyyarusso> Say, I know we're waiting for Firefox 1.5 to go through Dapper, but I was wondering if anyone's familiar with what the timetable for that might be?
[01:55] <__ngmlinux> SCMark, agreed
[01:55] <Broam> Remdul:  if not...this is a really esoteric question...do you know what disk drive / IDE controller you have in that box?
[01:55] <Broam> tonyyarusso:  "When it's done" I guess.
[01:55] <dwhsix> SCMark: I think what's needed is editing the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to make additional resolutions available...
[01:55] <Remdul> Broam: Lemme see if this works real fast
[01:55] <Broam> It works 'okay' in Dapper--it functions but there's integration to be done
[01:55] <insomnd> how can i modify the "system" menu in gnome 2.12? i tried the configuration editor with no luck
[01:55] <dwhsix> but I believe mistakes in that file can leave you really hosed
[01:55] <Nihil85> I have a lot of problems with Ubuntu. I cannot open Synaptic, i cannot see wma and dvd (even if i installed totem xine and all its libraries and VLAN), i cannot change date and hour, the system freezes sometimes (about one time every two days)
[01:56] <SCMark> dwhsix: I think so too.  I'm gonna try a dpkg-reconfigure
[01:56] <tonyyarusso> Broam: Fair enough.
[01:56] <Nihil85> i used the right password, obviously
[01:56] <ubuntu> what i hate if the libraries adress changes or ou have to renew that stuff
[01:56] <sorush20> there are breezy back ports here http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy-backports/
[01:56] <sorush20> !backports
[01:56] <ubotu> well, backports is Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[01:56] <dwhsix> SCMark: I think I tried that and it didn't give me anything more than what 1280x1024
[01:56] <insomnd> i am trying to edit the command that launches that item, e.g. "Add Applications" to run gksu synaptic
[01:57] <Broam> tonyyarusso:  There are 'hacks' and scripts available to get FF 1.5 in Breezy if you are so determined, but I don't recommend them.
[01:57] <tonyyarusso> Also, I know there was a bit of a backlog previously in the Ubuntu ShipIt; anyone know if that's been cleared or still an issue?  (Wondering about Breezy disk arrivals to distribute to friends, but knowing it'll probably be a while...)
[01:57] <SCMark> dwhsix: I'll try the more advanced options to see if I can maually add the top resolution
[01:57] <Toma-> sorush20: well thats the first ive heard of it :D
[01:57] <insomnd> is it safe to rename gksudo to gksudo_ and symlink gksudo to gksu?
[01:57] <Broam> Nihil85:  I've got a laptop that loves teh locking.  I'm looking into it
[01:57] <Toma-> sorush20: sorry for the misleading info before
[01:57] <tonyyarusso> Broam: I'm not planning to try anything like that; just curious.
[01:58] <Remdul> Broam: Still rebooted.
[01:58] <jen_> Quick question... How do I change default applications? Say I want to change my default media player to Mplayer instead of Totem...
[01:58] <Broam> Remdul:  blaaaah
[01:58] <Remdul> Broam: I know it....
[01:58] <ubuntu> So what distro you guys think is the best coded utilizing your hardware?  or is the answere obvious given were in a ubuntu chat
[01:58] <Broam> Jen_:  I know you can edit preferences preferred applications but it only does web mail and terminal
[01:58] <owner989> i would say ubuntu is
[01:58] <bimberi> insomnd: gksudo is already symlinked to gksu
[01:58] <jen_> Broam: Yeah, I noticed that... =(
[01:59] <bimberi> ubotu tell jen_ about defaultapp
[01:59] <insomnd> bimberi, but gksudo is differnet, doesn't work if sudo is disabled. gksu works as root
[01:59] <sorush20> there is a dapper repository list here too
[01:59] <burnhamd> hey guys I have a samba problem
[01:59] <sorush20> http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[01:59] <jgrieves> does anyone know if .bdf's are cross platform compatible with X?
[01:59] <jgrieves> i.e freebsd.inux
[01:59] <basti> Hello, while running ./configure (to install mmsv2) I get the following error:
[01:59] <jgrieves> i.e freebsd/linux
[01:59] <Nihil85> Broam, i'm not using a laptop
[01:59] <basti> "Error: configure failed for commoncpp2
[01:59] <basti> "
[02:00] <Broam> Remdul:  Do you know what's the hard disk in that thing?
[02:00] <jen_> bimberi: But say that I'm trying to switch say... streaming wm to a different program...?
[02:00] <basti> Can someone help me ?
[02:00] <Broam> Nihil:  Probably not the same thing then
[02:00] <Remdul> Broam: I dont. No clue
[02:00] <rabih> Hello
[02:00] <bimberi> jen_: got me there, don't know sry :|
[02:00] <ubuntu> does anybody know a site with a bunch of source file programs so i can compile
[02:00] <Broam> jen_:  I can't figure that out at the moment.  I'm just glad I can select XMMS from the context menu
[02:00] <rabih> In fact I have a problem to use root in ubuntu !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:00] <SCMark> ok.  I'm going to restart gdm.  brb
[02:01] <sorush20> with the ever growning world of free software when will the bubble burst on microsoft and such gients?
[02:01] <bimberi> insomnd: k
[02:01] <burnhamd> how do I get linux to act as the server of a windows networks
[02:01] <basti> aby idea?
[02:01] <basti> b=n
[02:01] <burnhamd> I really only need it for printing
[02:01] <insomnd> bimberi, hmm even if i change it it still doesnt work
[02:01] <rabih> Hi for all
[02:01] <insomnd> how can i make ubuntu use gksudo as gksu?
[02:01] <djk_> sorush20: never?
[02:01] <chrisx1> any1 recommend a good ftp server other than proftpd and vsftpd
[02:01] <fr500> someone using gnome-phone-manager?
[02:01] <bimberi> ubotu tell burnhamd about samba
[02:01] <Toma-> sorush20: when the marketing people from myer and walmart decide to start giving away free software
[02:02] <Broam> Remdul:  I'm tapped out of ideas
[02:02] <Toma-> oh no i said an opinion :( sorry Seveas
[02:02] <rabih> Can any one help me please ???????????????
[02:02] <tonyyarusso> Is there a painless way to install the Java Runtime Environment and enable it for Firefox?  The last time I tried it involved copying to ff library folders and didn't end up working.
[02:02] <Remdul> Broam: thank you for trying. I might as well just reinstall windows.....
[02:02] <mkyb14> how do you check to see what version of xwindows your running?
[02:02] <Broam> Yeah but that's giving up! :)
[02:02] <basti> :(
[02:02] <Hobbsee> !tell Remdul about javadeb
[02:02] <insomnd> i think i found it
[02:03] <Toma-> rabih: you odnt 'use' root on ubuntu. you use 'sudo'
[02:03] <Broam> Hobbsee: ya missed
[02:03] <insomnd>  /etc/gksu.conf
[02:03] <bimberi> rabih: what's the problem
[02:03] <Broam> !tell tonyyarusso about javadeb
[02:03] <sorush20> i've found the backports but now I'm stuck as to how to add it to the apt sources list could anyone help please?
[02:03] <insomnd> sudo-mode = no
[02:03] <Hobbsee> whoops!  i ddi
[02:03] <rabih> yes my problem is
[02:03] <Hobbsee> sorush20: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:03] <insomnd> maybe not
[02:03] <Hobbsee> in a terminal
[02:03] <Broam> sorush20:  You may want to back up the file first
[02:03] <rabih> I c'ant install the driver of my WIFI
[02:03] <basti> is here nobody able to help me? I have further informtation, but I dont wanna post them in channel, because its to much
[02:03] <navarone> Remdul, have you tried "linux ide=nodma"...?
[02:04] <djk_> ubotu tell basti about pastebin
[02:04] <Remdul> This is ironic, it really is.... I thought Linux was the better operating systems. it wont install though.
[02:04] <Broam> Man, nodma!  Forgot about that one
[02:04] <Remdul> navarone: Will do right now
[02:04] <tonyyarusso> Looks like a much nicer idea.  Thanks Broam.
[02:04] <Broam> Remdul:  Try ida=nodma, I think he's onto something
[02:04] <sorush20> Hobbsee: here is the backport , Im not sure if its the repository or just a list of the files that are in the repository? http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy-backports/
[02:04] <Broam> np
[02:04] <Toma-> sorush20: open up synaptic and click repositories and just add it thru there
[02:04] <bimberi> ubotu tell rabih about wireless
[02:05] <bimberi> ubotu tell rabih about wifi
[02:05] <basti> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/450347
[02:05] <sorush20> when is there going to be a competition on naming the versions of ubuntu? who the hell choose breezy..
[02:05] <Remdul> it's cursed and still rebooted.
[02:05] <mkyb14> how do you check to see what version of xwindows your running?
[02:05] <Broam> Remdul:  Hmm.  Can you disable certain 'unnecessary' hardware in BIOS?
[02:05] <navarone> id the gdth thing the only error?
[02:05] <rabih> yes    TOMAS
[02:05] <Hobbsee> !tell sorush20 about backports
[02:05] <Remdul> Not really.... It's all onboard
[02:05] <jesse_> Is It Possibly to run .exe files on ubuntu?
[02:05] <navarone> no jesse_
[02:06] <jesse_> Possible*
[02:06] <Toma-> mkyb14: Xorg -version
[02:06] <navarone> unless you are using wine...but I dunno about wine never used it
[02:06] <Hobbsee> !tell jesse_ about windows
[02:06] <sorush20> Toma-: you don't get it, having a look at the repositories there the link that I have http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy-backports/ doesn't compare with the links that are there hence my apprehension in adding the link?
[02:06] <Broam> Who needed breezy backports URL again?
[02:06] <bimberi> jesse_: yes, with wine (or cedega, or crossover office)
[02:06] <jesse_> is there anyway to install anything that i bought that the disk has a setup.exe file?
[02:06] <Broam> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[02:07] <jesse_> How do i get wine?
[02:07] <djk_> ubotu tell sorush20 about howcome
[02:07] <Broam> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ breezy-extras main restricted universe multiverse
[02:07] <Toma-> sorush20: thats interesting...
[02:07] <Hobbsee> !tell jesse_ about wine
[02:07] <mkyb14> thankyou
[02:07] <Broam> sorush20:  Read my previous 2 lines, those are the deb sources
[02:07] <feg> hi, how to tell thunderbird to handle news:// ?
[02:07] <insomnd> how can i force gksudo to ask for ROOT password instead of current user password
[02:07] <jesse_> thank you!
[02:07] <kuraia> hi!
[02:07] <kuraia> i need help!
[02:08] <Hobbsee> !tell kuraia about ask
[02:08] <powerj> Anyone having some problems with hotplug, on current dappy??
[02:08] <Broam> Anyone know how to mangle MIME types in Breezy?
[02:08] <Broam> powerj:  My hotplug is fine
[02:08] <kuraia> i'm spanish speaker
[02:08] <sorush20> ola
[02:08] <kuraia> but i haven't found help in ubuntu-es
[02:08] <fr500> man
[02:08] <kuraia> ols sorush20
[02:08] <Broam> Benvenido kuraia. Que necesita ud?
[02:08] <powerj> Broam, with dapper?
[02:08] <kuraia> eres espaol?
[02:08] <feg> when i click on news:// links nothing happens
[02:08] <Broam> powerj:  Runnin' Dapper (living on the bleeding edge)
[02:08] <kuraia> soy novata sorush20
[02:08] <rabih>  in fact I have a problem with root using
[02:08] <fr500> so far breezy has been a pita. Hoary was almost flawless
[02:09] <Broam> kuraia:  No, soy americano
[02:09] <sorush20> kuraia: so no I don't speak spanish but I'm willing to help
[02:09] <kuraia> ok
[02:09] <powerj> Broam, it wont load any drivers that requires a firmware.
[02:09] <kuraia> sorush20 i want to change my display
[02:09] <mkyb14> wha's the difference between XFree86 4.3 and X.Org 6.8  ... for ati drivers download
[02:09] <Broam> powerj:  Hmm.  You got a wifi driver or something?
[02:09] <powerj> Broam, ipw2200  intel standard centrino chip.
[02:09] <kuraia> sorush20 to 32 bits
[02:10] <kuraia> sorush20 do you know how can i do it?
[02:10] <bimberi> mkyb14: ubuntu breezy (and hoary) use x.org
[02:10] <powerj> Broam, trying to modprobe is usless.
[02:10] <kuraia> Broam hola soy novata en esto
[02:10] <sorush20> kuraia: you don't have to type my name everytime you can just type a little of my name and press tab then that will fill out the rest of the name..
[02:10] <Broam> powerj:  I know intel requires firmware.  I know the OpenBSD required it in /etc/firmware
[02:10] <kuraia> Broam, quiero cambiar mi display a 32 bits
[02:10] <powerj> Broam, before code in /etc/hotplug/firmware.agent make sure the firmware was loaded.
[02:10] <fr500> my laptop wont shut down, it halts and freezes there, anyone had that issue?
[02:11] <Broam> kuraia:  Yo trato a "edit -> screen resolution" pero no puede cambiar a 32 bits
[02:11] <tonyyarusso> fr500: Only in Windows :)
[02:11] <powerj> Broam, but dapper current is removing this package hotplug, that this files are in.
[02:11] <sorush20> kuraia: I think you can use the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server command and change the setting of your monitor
[02:11] <fr500> hmmm
[02:11] <Broam> powerj:  I know hotplug got changed to another package
[02:11] <Broam> try using packages.ubuntu.com to find what it is now
[02:11] <sorush20> kuraia: are you using kde?
[02:11] <fr500> guess i gotta go back to hoary
[02:11] <powerj> Broam, I have been searching allredy, i cant find it out.
[02:11] <Broam> kuraia:  usa ud. el KDE?
[02:11] <kuraia> sorush20, thanks
[02:11] <Broam> de nada. :P
[02:11] <mkyb14> what about *cough fedora
[02:11] <fr500> bluetoot wont work, and same for acpi
[02:11] <kuraia> sorush20, i'll do it
[02:12] <Broam> powerj:  Lemme see what it's called now
[02:12] <jesse_> will wine allow me to run my setup.exe for my webcam
[02:12] <kuraia> Broam, uso gnome
[02:12] <sorush20> kuraia: be careful
[02:12] <tritium> powerj, what are you trying to find out?
[02:12] <fr500> jesse_, will run, wont work
[02:12] <jesse_> y?
[02:12] <bimberi> mkyb14: sorry, no idea :) (#fedora?)
[02:12] <fr500> jesse_, even if it installs, linux apps wont find the cam
[02:13] <kuraia> sorush20, but haven't that package
[02:13] <kuraia> sorush20, maybe i have to edit some file
[02:13] <jesse_> is there anything that will find it?
[02:13] <Broam> powerj: There's a hotplug in my sources
[02:13] <Broam> powerj:  If you reinstall it what happens?
[02:13] <powerj> Broam, it will remove ubuntu-desktop, and a lot of other packages.
[02:13] <ubuntu__> 234
[02:13] <Broam> sheeet.
[02:13] <fr500> jesse_, what cam?
[02:14] <ubuntu__> 123
[02:14] <powerj> Broam, also udevd vill be gone, that is really required to boot.
[02:14] <jesse_> its a Ezonics
[02:14] <navarone> Remdul,  any luck?
[02:14] <Broam> powerj: I see the hal packages are still here
[02:14] <Remdul> navarone: None, at all.
[02:14] <powerj> tritium, trying to make my wifi card work, now when they have removed hotplug package from dappy.
[02:15] <powerj> Broam, yes they are still in, youst hotplug that seems to be depricated in some way.
[02:15] <Broam> Question is...what are they using instead...
[02:15] <powerj> Broam, yes.
[02:15] <Broam> I mean, I'm still having my devices detected...
[02:15] <powerj> Can you check the logs of a package, and see what the packager say when changing its status?
[02:15] <Remdul> navarone: any ideas?
[02:15] <Broam> powerj:  lemme just search synaptic a few times
[02:16] <Toma-> powerj: theres a changelog part in synaptic when you click the package
[02:16] <Broam> powerj:  Is this an EFI -based machine?
[02:17] <Broam> Toma-: well let's read that , shall we?
[02:17] <powerj> Broam, no efi boot, and nothing exiting in changelog
[02:17] <khalif> I'm trying to hide the GRUB menu on boot up: from the terminal I styped sudo kwrite /boot/grub/menu.lst  The instructions that I found said to uncomment the hiddenmenu line. I did that and rebooted, but the grub menu still showed. Whaat did I do wrong?
[02:17] <Toma-> ...
[02:17] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Can somebody help me set up PPP with CHAP MD5?
[02:17] <powerj> Maby its the other packages that fight hotplug that will have some exiting in their changelog
[02:17] <Broam> powerj: conflicts with usbmgr
[02:17] <khalif> And yes I did save the file... :O
[02:18] <ubuntu> evidentally people are working hard to crack the xbox 360 for linux use
[02:18] <tritium> powerj, udev is replacing hotplug
[02:18] <ubuntu> would be nice 3 core comp
[02:18] <Toma-> ubuntu: yeh so it wont crash as much XD
[02:18] <powerj> These packages are beeing removed if i try to install hotplug: gnome-volume-manager hal hal-device-manager hwdb-client initramfs-tools
[02:18] <powerj>   ubuntu-desktop udev update-notifier usplash
[02:18] <powerj> tritium, but udev is not loading any firmware at all.
[02:19] <ajmitch> powerj: you're on dapper, right?
[02:19] <navarone> Remdul, still looking thru threads...slow going...:)
[02:19] <Broam> ajmitch: powerj is on dapper
[02:19] <ajmitch> powerj: why are you trying to install hotplug?
[02:19] <Remdul> navarone: Thank you for looking. :)
[02:19] <navarone> is it laptop?
[02:19] <wby87> hi, another question, I have a pentium d cpu running, should i get the 64-bit version? whats the difference between the regular 32 and 64? will my system run significantly faster?
[02:19] <powerj> ajmitch, yes.
[02:19] <ajmitch> powerj: as tritium said, udev is replacing it
[02:19] <Broam> wby87:  I don't think you can run the 64-bit version...
[02:19] <ajmitch> so the simple answer is "don't"
[02:19] <Broam> wby87: Maybe I'm wrong
[02:20] <burnhamd> anyone here use the composite manager
[02:20] <burnhamd> xcompmgr?
[02:20] <powerj> ajmitch, becouse udev cant handle firmware loading.
[02:20] <Broam> ajmitch: how do we get firmware to load then?
[02:20] <ajmitch> powerj: you need to have the firmware in a different directory
[02:20] <Broam> odla: How else we gonna learn
[02:20] <odla> RTM?
[02:20] <wby87> why not? i think pintium d has the xmt64 thing build in? so it is a 64 cpu right?
[02:20] <orian> i neede an updated sources list for apt-get
[02:20] <CaptainMorgan> yo
[02:20] <ajmitch> you have been following the ubuntu-devel list, right? :)
[02:20] <Broam> wby87: If it does, you can try the 64 bit version
[02:20] <Broam> ajmitch: On occaision
[02:21] <odla> if you're running dapper you should be reading manuals
[02:21] <burnhamd> i use 64bit
[02:21] <wby87> will it be alot faster? or just a mild increasement?
[02:21] <burnhamd> it is faster
[02:21] <ajmitch> odla: nah, manuals don't keep up
[02:21] <powerj> ajmitch, when a module is loaded into the kernel, that require some firmware, the kernel will put an hotplug action == also an udev action, to an netlinkbus, the hotplug packaga walks his configs, and sees that a firmware is required, he copy the firmware into an entry in /sys fs.
[02:21] <burnhamd> but you have to chroot in to 32bit to use some apps
[02:21] <ajmitch> powerj: I understand how the firmware loading worked
[02:21] <transgress> i didn't notice a huge change between 64bit and 32bit to be honest... i mean there was enough of an increase to just notice... but not a lot IMHO.
[02:21] <powerj> ajmitch, actually monitoring with strace shows noting even wanting to see a firmware.
[02:21] <ajmitch> powerj: you need to put it in /lib/firmware
[02:21] <burnhamd> mild increasement
[02:22] <powerj> I have.
[02:22] <Biscuitian_Warhe> What do I need to play WMV/ASF files?
[02:22] <powerj> ajmitch, but still.
[02:22] <burnhamd> I would go 32bit unless you have too much ram
[02:22] <navarone> Remdul, you tried "pci=noacpi"...?
[02:22] <jgrieves> does anyone know if the cursors menu in > pref > mouse picks up .pcf fonts?
[02:22] <ClayG> how do i boot from floppy if my cdroom isn't bootable? is there a prog like rawright that ubuntu uses?
[02:22] <orian> i neede an updated sources list for apt-get
[02:22] <Remdul> navarone: Yeah, I'll try again though
[02:23] <powerj> ajmitch, another idea?
[02:23] <trkorecky> Can someone guide me through setting up a dedicated Half-Life 2 server?
[02:23] <djk_> ubotu tell orian about sources
[02:23] <wby87> i have 2 gig, but i don't planning on doing anything fancy, i just want to learn linux in a "friendly" enviroment, so maybe i should just get the 32 ones?
[02:23] <burnhamd> i would
[02:23] <felipe_> Hello, somebody know how to make the menus in gnome transparent like the panels?
[02:23] <wby87> ok, got it, thanks
[02:23] <ajmitch> powerj: assuming you have the latest packages (including kernel, udev, module-init-tools, etc), you've put files in the right place, and it still doesn't work
[02:23] <Remdul> navarone: no go
[02:23] <burnhamd> you can use wine and my favorite OPERA with 32 bit
[02:23] <navarone> Remdul, might wan to check if bios is set for PnP...I think it should be disabled...dunno if that has anythign to do with it
[02:23] <ajmitch> then maybe you can file a bug
[02:23] <wby87> opera the browser?
[02:23] <Toma-> burnhamd: opera has been released for linux for sometime now
[02:23] <burnhamd> yea
[02:24] <Toma-> no need for wine
[02:24] <Remdul> navarone: I dont think I have anything like that in the bios
[02:24] <burnhamd> to TOMA yea but it is hard to get running under 64bit mode
[02:24] <Broam> Remdul:  Navarone has a point.  You want to make sure that your BIOS settings aren't trying to fake out Win 95. Usually there's a "PNP OS" or "report No FDD for Win 95' and other silliness
[02:24] <SuperID> I need to install libqt0-ruby1.8  Qt bindings for Ruby.  I searched with synaptic but cannot find it.  Can anyone recommend a repository that might provide this?
[02:24] <djk_> ClayG: http://linux.simple.be/tools/sbm
[02:24] <powerj> ajmitch, i use a custom kernel, but everyting else is latest.
[02:24] <wby87> ic, but i've been using firefox for a while now, kinda hard to switch:)
[02:24] <Remdul> Broam: I'll check again real fast
[02:24] <powerj> ajmitch, 2.6.14-cks3
[02:24] <ClayG> nm
[02:24] <felipe_> in which repository can I find the xbindkeys?
[02:25] <jgrieves> does anyone know if the cursors menu in > pref > mouse picks up .pcf fonts?
[02:25] <ClayG> it just occured to me,
[02:25] <ClayG> I'm an idiot
[02:25] <chrisx1> omfg just had massive spider crawl on my hand
[02:25] <chrisx1> :|
[02:25] <djk_> ClayG: that's a solution too ;)
[02:25] <ClayG> I just made a bootdisk for a slackware install, I dont know what made not think of using it
[02:25] <clemslacker> anybody had the problem of dvdshrink not recognizing their drive?
[02:25] <ajmitch> powerj: you'll probably run into problems with a custom kernel then
[02:26] <Broam> Since there's been some turnover, can anyone give me an idea of the best way to proceed on rescuing my / partition on a fresh Breezy install that has a corrupt superblock?
[02:26] <ajmitch> powerj: you have tried with the kernel in dapper?
[02:26] <Broam> And no, I can't put the drive in another machine
[02:26] <powerj> ajmitch, it works perfectly before.
[02:26] <ajmitch> that was before :)
[02:26] <robnyc> Hello, i downloaded mp3s with apollon and i installed the mp3 stuff and i still cant find it to play it
[02:27] <trkorecky> Can anyone help me install and run a dedicated server for Half-Life 2?
[02:27] <bimberi> SuperID: libqt0-ruby1.8 is in the universe repository
[02:27] <SCMark> well I was able to get 1600x1054 at 57Hz.  Any Idea how to get this thing running at 60Hz?
[02:27] <ClayG> if a distro only had fvwm for a windows manager what display manager would you suspect it of having?
[02:27] <SCMark> I've got a dell 2005FPW
[02:27] <Broam> ClayG:  The only distro I've seen that did that was like Solaris 6
[02:27] <powerj> ajmitch,  i am looking into kernel sources.
[02:27] <ajmitch> Broam: e2fsck is in /sbin
[02:27] <powerj> ajmitch, trying to find a custum ubuntu patch to apply.
[02:27] <Broam> trkorecky: Is there a linux build?  if not you will need wine
[02:27] <Broam> ajmitch: On the install CD?
[02:27] <SCMark> and who was it that wanted to know how to get native resolution in this thing?
[02:28] <Toma-> ClayG: xdm
[02:28] <Coweater> ClayG: there is no "display manager"
[02:28] <SuperID> bimberi:  hmmm....I seem to have both source and binary universe repositorys enabled...but synaptic doesn't list anything for libqt0
[02:28] <trkorecky> Broam: I believe so, as I've seen others running a linux server
[02:28] <kuraia> has anybody installed qemu?
[02:28] <sorush20> guys I don't get it here is the repository directory using adept I have figured out the syntax of the repository addition but It just will not update when I click on fetch updates? any ideas here is the repository http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports/main/
[02:28] <ajmitch> Broam: um.. possibly? :) I'd try the live cd if you have one
[02:28] <ajmitch> powerj: there are several patches applied
[02:28] <kuraia> has anyody installed qemu?
[02:28] <Oceansblue> Any FlightGear people on line?
[02:28] <Broam> ajmitch: I'll have to find a blank CD then.  I have an old SuSE Live CD (9.1).  Maybe that'll work
[02:28] <kuraia> has anybody installed qemu?
[02:29] <powerj> ajmitch, 2.6.15 is that one released yey?
[02:29] <powerj> yet?
[02:29] <Remdul> navarone: PNP = Plug and Play OS?
[02:29] <Broam> Remdul:  PNP = plug and play OS yes
[02:29] <Broam> Remdul:  Try changing that
[02:29] <Remdul> Broam: it was on Yes
[02:29] <bimberi> SuperID: hm, should be there, it's on all architectures - http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/interpreters/libqt0-ruby1.8
[02:29] <Broam> Hahahaha nice
[02:30] <Broam> My laptop is booting the install CD, and froze at the second period
[02:30] <Remdul>  Broam: Made no difference.
[02:30] <Broam> This thing is a DOG
[02:30] <Broam> Remdul:  bleh
[02:30] <Remdul> Broam: I'm sorry
[02:30] <hcatlin_> how do i launch gnome (its installed) after i set it to not auto-launch on boot.
[02:30] <hcatlin_> ?
[02:30] <tag> I'm trying to use cpan, on a pretty fresh install, it won't install any packages because it claims it's unable to write makefiles from Makefile.PL
[02:30] <Broam> Remdul:  Unless you want to try *everything* all at once...I'm out of ideas
[02:31] <bimberi> hcatlin_: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start
[02:31] <kuraia> has anybody installed qemu?
[02:31] <kuraia> has anybody installed qemu?
[02:31] <tag> ExtUtils::MakeMaker exists, and it always actually writes the makefile so far as I can tell
[02:31] <Broam> kuraia: I do not have that installed, mil disculpas
[02:31] <tag> but for some reason, cpan think's its returning a bad status
[02:31] <SuperID> bimberi, not to be obtuse....but shouldn't apt-get install libqt0-ruby* work?
[02:31] <Remdul> Broam: I really appreciate ya trying to help me. I appreciate it greatly.
[02:31] <tag> I've had this problem on another machine I was running ubuntu on - but I've had others work fine - any ideas what's missing?
[02:31] <Broam> Remdul:  No problem.  I'm trying as much as I can, this place is fast-paced!
[02:32] <HrdwrBoB> yes
[02:32] <bimberi> SuperID: no, wildcards don't work
[02:32] <jgrieves> anyone know how to install individual cursors in gnome
[02:32] <Remdul> Broam: I noticed. You're helping a lot of people out at once
[02:32] <SuperID> hah ok ty
[02:32] <Broam> Remdul:  95wpm and no love on the superblock
[02:32] <fr500> tag, what was the prob?
[02:32] <Remdul> Broam: Nice! Not sure what the superblock is though
[02:33] <tag> fr500: I just explained the problem.
[02:33] <Broam> Superblock is the main...um...information table for where stuff is stored on the hard disks
[02:33] <Broam> Mine is fubar on this laptop
[02:33] <Broam> And the problem is
[02:33] <Remdul> Ah! lol, aight.
[02:33] <Broam> the program which I should be able to use to fix it?  On that partition
[02:33] <tag> I'm trying to use cpan, on a pretty fresh install, it won't install any packages because it claims it's unable to write makefiles from Makefile.PL
[02:33] <Remdul> That cant be good.
[02:33] <tag> but for some reason, cpan think's its returning a bad status
[02:33] <Broam> So I've been looking for it on the install CD.  ajmitch pointed me to the right spot.
[02:33] <tag> ExtUtils::MakeMaker exists, and it always actually writes the makefile so far as I can tell
[02:33] <tag> I've had this problem on another machine I was running ubuntu on - but I've had others work fine - any ideas what's missing?
[02:33] <tag> there
[02:33] <tag> I've repeated my explanation :-)
[02:34] <navarone> Remdul, how old is puter?
[02:34] <fr500> was it a fresh install in the case that worked too?
[02:34] <Remdul> navarone: 2002, I *think* I got it from a friend
[02:34] <basti> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/450365
[02:34] <basti> can someome help me with that?
[02:35] <Remdul> navarone: Possibly a 2001, but I dont think that old
[02:35] <jgrieves> anyone know how to install individual cursors in gnome
[02:35] <jgrieves> i.e i want to throw a cursor into the gnome-panel
[02:35] <ajmitch> Broam: ext2/3 should store multiple superblocks if only that one is broken
[02:35] <jgrieves> Mouse > cursors
[02:35] <jgrieves> and i hav eno idea where it is storing it
[02:35] <Broam> tag: Makefiles are teh voodoo
[02:35] <Broam> ajmitch:  problem is that e2fsck is on the partition that is fubar
[02:36] <tag> no they aren't
[02:36] <Broam> ajmitch: So I can't fix it because I have to unmount the partition first
[02:36] <tag> makefiles are simple
[02:36] <Broam> tag:  Always were to me.  That and VHDL. :P
[02:36] <tag> the point is, ExtUtils::MakeMaker writes the makefile
[02:36] <jgrieves> perahps its in .icons
[02:36] <tag> and this only happens in ubuntu
[02:36] <tag> and it only happens in some ubuntu installs
[02:36] <Broam> tag:  and the MakeMaker is crashing?
[02:36] <Broam> tag:  Maybe you have a bum version of MakeMaker?
[02:37] <tag> does a bum version of MakeMaker come with breezy?
[02:37] <Broam> tag:  I hope not!
[02:37] <Broam> tag:  Try seeing if there is an update on backports
[02:37] <orian> i did su, entered root password, than cfdisk, and i got this : Opened disk read-only - you have no permission to write
[02:37] <admod> !help
[02:37] <Broam> orian:  you need to remount the drive RW
[02:37] <tag> Broam: Seems to be up to date here (including backports)
[02:38] <orian> it is rw
[02:38] <Broam> orian:  It took me a bit of staring at the man pages and playing with mount to get it to go.  I recommend mount -v (for verbose mode) and -f (for fake)
[02:38] <jay> whats the best way to do a podcast from linux
[02:38] <jay> is it just audacity?
[02:38] <Broam> orian:  That's really odd.  Usually fstab does not lie
[02:38] <Broam> orian:  you may not be able to run cfdisk on a mounted parition (fsck doesn't let you)
[02:38] <Gunblade> How can i upgrade firefox?
[02:38] <admod> ::stabs fstab::  dont lie again
[02:38] <orian> /dev/sda3 on /home type ext3 (rw)
[02:39] <Broam> Gunblade:  Are you running Breezy?
[02:39] <Gunblade> 5.10
[02:39] <admod> thats breezy
[02:39] <djk_|away> what does "clearing orphaned inode" mean?
[02:40] <fworp> anyone here know anything about breezy-ppc? ive just gotten through the setup, and when i go to sudo, it says 'sudo: unable to lookup gilligan via gethostbyname(), where gilligan is the hostname i setup when i installed it. I think it has something to do with choosing airport as the default network interface
[02:40] <sorush20> anyone here got the breezy backports?
[02:40] <sorush20> because I just managed to get mine ...
[02:40] <Broam> YES  IT IS FSCKING
[02:40] <JesusSaves> hey guys
[02:40] <Broam> although I should have umounted it first
[02:41] <JesusSaves> how can i install a .rpm file in ubuntu?
[02:41] <navarone> Remdul,  do you have raid scsi components?
[02:41] <nekrataal> hey
[02:41] <sorush20> would I be true in saying every one would like to become friends with their idol?
[02:41] <Gunblade> How do i update firefox to 1.5?
[02:41] <Broam> Gunblade: The official word is "wait."  I've seen 2 or 3 tricks to do the upgrade now but you have to be determined
[02:41] <Remdul> navarone: Not to my knowledge
[02:41] <Broam> JesusSaves: Use 'alien'
[02:41] <factotum> hehe, just freaked out my wife, running her copy of photoshop 7 with xoffice hehe
[02:41] <nekrataal> i have a webcam conected to my usb port, it is detected in Device Manager, but how can i use it?
[02:41] <jgrieves> does anyone know where cursors are stored and what type of file it is?
[02:41] <jgrieves> compiled my cursors but i want gnome to pick them up
[02:41] <sorush20> Gunblade: you can't unless you change your repositories to the development version dapper..
[02:41] <Broam> ubotu, tell JesusSaves about alien
[02:41] <nekostar> eh ok
[02:42] <Gunblade> Broam: ok thanks
[02:42] <tritium> JesusSaves, are you sure there's not .deb of what you want to install?
[02:42] <nekostar> so i had windows on primary partition first then installed ubuntu for double boot
[02:42] <orian> which command do i have else than cfdisk to edit my partitions? since cfdisk doesnt work now
[02:42] <Broam> Gunblade:  Sorry that's not the best response.  It will be in Breezy once it's finalized in Dapper
[02:42] <orian> it worked before
[02:42] <nekostar> then windows got pissy so i had to just reinstall it
[02:42] <nekostar> is grub still gonna be in the mbr?
[02:42] <nekostar> and if not how do i get it back in there?
[02:42] <mherweg> orian: fdisk
[02:43] <Broam> BWAHAHAHA FIXED
[02:43] <mherweg> orian: boot knoppix and use cfdisk or qtparted
[02:43] <jgrieves> compiled my cursors but i want gnome to pick them up
[02:43] <jgrieves> does anyone know where cursors are stored and what type of file it is?
[02:43] <Broam> orian:  gparted also is on the install disk IIRC
[02:43] <interval> hi!
[02:43] <Broam> jgrieves:  No clue, I'm sorry.  You might be able to dig in /usr/bin/X11
[02:43] <orian> which command to use if i wanna see how much GB i have used in some directory?
[02:43] <navarone> Remdul, I am readinga  thread with Debian 3.0 as subject and loading modules at installation. Is there a way to specify module to use at install...gdth specifically...? Broam?
[02:44] <jgrieves> Broam yep bin digging htere :)
[02:44] <jgrieves> Broam i can't believe i can't find spec online  @ gnome
[02:44] <icerabbit> I have a quick question about Ubuntu.
[02:44] <Remdul> navarone: I have no clue...
[02:44] <Broam> jgrieves: Hmm.  That's really odd
[02:44] <icerabbit> I've searched the forums to no avail, and request your help as a last resort. I have an ATI Radeon X800 Pro. For some reason, X wont work. I tried "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" then selecting the Vesa Driver, but that doesnt work either. Any suggestions please?
[02:44] <jgrieves> Broam maybe i'm just a bad searcher :\
[02:44] <bimberi> orian: du -sh /path/to/dir
[02:44] <tritium> icerabbit, you followed the wiki page for ati?
[02:44] <chrisx1> YAY
[02:44] <chrisx1> ty
[02:44] <chrisx1> ops
[02:44] <Broam> icerabbit: Have you tried using the free driver, or if not, have you tried using the binary driver?
[02:44] <chrisx1> wrong window
[02:44] <chrisx1> lolz
[02:44] <navarone> Broam>take a look here and see if it is in any way applicable to Remdul  http://www.debianhelp.org/Article3027.html
[02:45] <Broam> will do.
[02:45] <Broam> Sonofa..IT'S STILL CORRUPT
[02:45] <icerabbit> free driver, and binary driver? I have tried neither...
[02:45] <tritium> !tell icerabbit about ati
[02:45] <tritium> JesusSaves, which .rpm are you trying to install?
[02:46] <navarone> Remdul, did you try gdth=disable a sa install flag?
[02:46] <Broam> Navarone:  I sent that to him.
[02:46] <ryanpg> hi, what mail lists are "required" for keeping up with dapper, including announcements and warnings?
[02:46] <tritium> ryanpg, ubuntu-devel, primarily
[02:46] <Broam> ajmitch: I have a laptop partition here that's used for suspend to disk.  Do I just tell /etc/fstab to not mount it?
[02:46] <icerabbit> i've already tried "sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx" but it says that it cant find xorg-driver-fglrx
[02:47] <prg> Hi can someone tell me what file to edit to change the boot loader default OS?
[02:47] <tritium> icerabbit, then follow the wiki, and make sure you've installed the necessary packages
[02:47] <Broam> icerabbit:  are you stuck in terminal mode?
[02:47] <navarone> Broam> I am not sure what hardware he has but the gdth reference seesm to suggest he has a scsi device or raid controller
[02:47] <tritium> prg, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:47] <Broam> navarone:  Yeah, I tried giving him that line and he wasn't able to get any love
[02:47] <nickrud> ryanpg, dapper-changes can be interesting
[02:47] <Broam> Remdul: Can you crack the case for me?
[02:47] <icerabbit> Yes broam, i am stuck in terminal
[02:47] <Broam> icerabbit: Do you have another video card you can swap in?
[02:47] <icerabbit> nope
[02:47] <Broam> Usually the case. ;(
[02:48] <Remdul> Broam: Already open
[02:48] <tritium> icerabbit, you need both linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) and xorg-driver-fglrx
[02:48] <QMario> Is this a scam for a free domain name?
[02:48] <QMario>  http://www.freedomain.co.nr/basic.php
[02:48] <Broam> QMario: I wouldn't know, this is a channel about ubntu
[02:48] <Remdul> navarone: I have, and sorry about that, went to talk to my folks a minute
[02:48] <QMario> If it is, how do I get a free domain name for a Ubuntu FTP Server?
[02:48] <navarone> Braom> i don't suppose a biod update will give any love either...?
[02:49] <Broam> navarone: It might actually
[02:49] <navarone> bios*
[02:49] <icerabbit> how exactly would i get them tritium?
[02:49] <QMario> Me?
[02:49] <tritium> icerabbit, which processor do you have?
[02:49] <QMario> Hello Broam!!! :)
[02:49] <icerabbit> 64bit
[02:49] <tritium> icerabbit, which one?
[02:49] <icerabbit> athlon 64
[02:49] <Broam> hahah.
[02:49] <QMario> Why?
[02:50] <QMario> Hee hee hee!!! :)
[02:50] <navarone> d'oh
[02:50] <ryanpg> tritium, nickrud are people generally alerted to possible (likely) breakage on those lists? like "don't update for a few days" kinda warnings?
[02:50] <QMario> He?
[02:50] <Broam> Yeah, theodora has two drives
[02:50] <bobbyd> hi
[02:50] <khalif> What does -xjf mean when using the Terminal
[02:50] <Remdul> Broam: The case is already open because I was trying different harddrives to fix the problem earlier
[02:50] <jay> anyone using audacity here
[02:50] <tritium> ryanpg, it hsa been broken lately, as is usually the case early in development
[02:50] <nickrud> ryanpg, no, not that I've seen.
[02:50] <bobbyd> does anyone here use a digital video camera under ubuntu? I want to buy a firewire camera to do live video capture, any suggestins?
[02:50] <jay> how do u move tracks around
[02:51] <djk_|away> what does "clearing orphaned inode" mean?
[02:51] <ryanpg> tritium, do you know what's broken now?
[02:51] <jay> so they don't start all at the same time
[02:51] <QMario> Broam, a REAL girlfriend?
[02:51] <sorush20> goodnight everyone
[02:51] <Broam> Her daddy gave me this laptop
[02:51] <QMario> Do you mean a human?
[02:51] <Broam> sorry we couldn't help sorush
[02:51] <tritium> ryanpg, no, sorry
[02:51] <QMario> Oh okay!
[02:51] <icerabbit> hmmm, so i suppose I'll have to download linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) and xorg-driver-fglrx through the console?
[02:51] <ryanpg> k, thanks tritium and nickrud
[02:51] <navarone> Remdul, are you familar with flashing bios on motherboard? There is s lim chance that may help. I upgraded before installing to get LBA for my large drives
[02:51] <Broam> icerabbit:  Do you know what kernel version you're running?  I can give you the name of the packages
[02:51] <icerabbit> 2.86
[02:51] <Remdul> navarone: I am not, unfortunately.
[02:52] <jay> anyone
[02:52] <egon_spengler> khalif, -xjf means for tar to extract the file using bzip instead of gzip and preserve filenames/paths
[02:52] <tritium> icerabbit, apt-cache search linux-amd64, and look for an appropriate kernel meta-package (e.g. linux-amd64-generic, linux-amd64-k8)
[02:52] <tritium> icerabbit, those will depend on and pull in a matching linux-restricted-modules when you install them
[02:53] <nickrud> ryanpg, it seems to me that the last two releases were pretty broken, up until about 2 months before release (this is just a casual observation from the outside)
[02:53] <USCRyan> can anyone help me with some problems im having installing my nividia drivers?
[02:53] <tritium> icerabbit, or did you install a 32-bit version?
[02:53] <Broam> icerabbit:  apt-get install xserver-xorg-driver-ati
[02:53] <icerabbit> no, i installed the proper 64bit version
[02:53] <JesusSaves> i'm tryin to install tightvnc
[02:53] <JesusSaves> what is alien?
[02:53] <prg> A question about grub again:  So, if I have two options at boot, and I want the default to be the second I just set the value for 'default' to be 1..correct?
[02:53] <burnhamd> what problems with nvidia
[02:53] <Broam> JesusSaves:  alien is a program that converts RPM to DEV
[02:53] <Broam> ubotu, tell burnhamd about nvidia
[02:54] <navarone> Remdul> When you next reboot take a note of what bios version you are using. It should be something like Award Bios oe Ami bios...and will give the version number. Try and find it and google for update. Usually can get at motherboard manfacturers website...check motherboard while case is open for name...If you find it the website should have instructions for upgrading
[02:54] <mherweg> alien is a converter e.g. from rpm to deb
[02:54] <Broam> Remdul: You will have more luck looking on Compaq's website.
[02:54] <fworp> ok, maybe i should pose the question differently. I want to use my dialup modem to connect to the internet. I specified a random network interface as the default when asked by the setup utility. Is there some way to let ubuntu know that i dont want to use either? Using the wifi interface where there is no network for me to connect to seems to be screwing up my ability to sudo
[02:54] <Broam> Remdul:  And you will need a floppy disk
[02:54] <USCRyan> burnhamd, i init 1 to get to runlevel 1 to install it, and it tells me i need the kernel source to compile the installation?
[02:54] <tritium> JesusSaves, tigthvnc is in the repos.  No need to install the .rpm
[02:54] <icerabbit> ok guys... thanks a lot for the help! I'll be sure to come back with results!
[02:54] <Broam> fworp:  Add a network monitor to one of your gnome panels
[02:54] <Remdul> Broam: I dont have a floppy drive
[02:55] <fworp> Broam: how do i do that? does it require root privilages?
[02:55] <tritium> USCRyan, you should be using the ubuntu packages
[02:55] <Broam> Remdul: Hmmmm...I wonder how you flash bios on those things.  Maybe CD-Rom will work too
[02:55] <Broam> fworp:  right-click one of your panels in gnome (you are using gnome, right?)
[02:55] <JesusSaves> tritium how do i start it?
[02:55] <Remdul> navarone: Thank you very much. I will try this
[02:55] <fworp> Broam: yeah
[02:55] <tritium> JesusSaves, did you install it?
[02:55] <USCRyan> tritium, how do i do that? i just downloaded the driver off the site, went to run level 1 and tried to run it
[02:55] <Broam> fworp: select "add to panel..." and scroll down until you see Network Monitor
[02:55] <JesusSaves> i don't think so
[02:55] <tritium> !tell USCRyan about nvidia
[02:55] <Broam> fworp: it's under system and hardware
[02:55] <JesusSaves> where can i find it?
[02:56] <USCRyan> thanks
[02:56] <tritium> JesusSaves, apt-cache search tightvnc
[02:56] <navarone> Remdul, it is easier than it seems...you need to copy updated bios to bootable floppy and possible have update tool copied over on floppy as well. I used Asus aflash.exe It does the actual flashing and may offer to save current bios to saem floppy in case anything goes pearshaped
[02:56] <prg> Hi can someone answer a grub question?
[02:56] <Toma-> !info tightvnc
[02:56] <Toma-> *ubotu* Package 'tightvnc' does not exist. :(
[02:56] <Remdul> navarone: will cds work?
[02:56] <tritium> USCRyan, tell Reggie Bush that pushing a Q.B. over the goal line is against the rules ;)
[02:56] <Broam> fworp: I know it seems dumb, but it's the only way I can think of
[02:56] <Broam> Toma:  There may be another VNC client he can use.  Search synaptic?
[02:56] <navarone> Remdul...no idea...floppy is general media to use
[02:57] <Toma-> xvncviewer
[02:57] <Toma-> is the best bet
[02:57] <Remdul> navarone: I will just have to go buy a floppydrive then. Thanks a lot for your help!
[02:57] <tritium> Toma-, wrong package name
[02:57] <navarone> lol
[02:57] <Broam> Remdul: You *may* be able to boot off of CD if you know how to get one of those things to do El Torito
[02:57] <Remdul> Broam: I have no clue how to.
[02:57] <Toma-> the best one is simple "vnc-common" tho
[02:57] <tritium> JesusSaves, you want the server?
[02:58] <tritium> !info tightvncserver
[02:58] <Broam> Remdul:  Sometimes CD burning programs allow you to burn like a bootable floppy
[02:58] <ubotu> tightvncserver: (virtual network computing server software), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2.9-6build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 610 kB, Installed size: 1364 kB
[02:58] <Toma-> oh he needs a server?
[02:58] <Broam> Stupid question time!
[02:58] <JesusSaves> yes i just want the server
[02:58] <Remdul> Broam: I'll look around, see what I cant do.
[02:58] <JesusSaves> ok how do i run and install the server
[02:58] <Toma-> ahhh sorry
[02:58] <navarone> Broam...maybe get all files and make image...then burn image to cd?
[02:58] <JesusSaves> i mean the viewer would be cool to check out
[02:58] <Broam> navarone:  I'm thinking that.
[02:58] <jgrieves> Broam Do you know if Mouse is from applets?
[02:58] <djk_> what does "clearing orphaned inode" mean?
[02:58] <JesusSaves> but really the server is better
[02:58] <jgrieves> Broam gnome-applets
[02:58] <Broam> jgrieves: No clue.  I'm the kind of idiot that can't figure out how to switch out gnome for xfce4 after I install the package
[02:59] <tritium> JesusSaves, make sure you've enabled universe and updated, and then "sudo aptitude install tightvncserver"
[02:59] <jgrieves> Broam haha
[02:59] <navarone> Remdul, are you using this computer as dual boot?
[02:59] <Broam> jgrieves: Possibly
[02:59] <Toma-> ahhhhh the viewer is "xtightvncviewer" ....what a silly package name
[02:59] <xiaogil> why when i use firefox to see the page http://ndweb.iis.sinica.edu.tw/archaeo2_public/Include/GetImage_FileName.jsp?filename=R024974ccwa&type=3, i get a big image, and when i try to read it with wget, i get a small image ?
[02:59] <Remdul> navarone: No, I only want ubuntu installed on it
[02:59] <seife`> wich program u guys recommend me to part my hard drive?
[02:59] <JesusSaves> how do i run these programs?
[02:59] <tritium> !tell JesusSaves about repositories
[02:59] <JesusSaves> seife, fdisk
[02:59] <Broam> seife`:  Do you have any data on the disk you want to save?
[02:59] <tritium> follow that to enable universe
[03:00] <seife`> Broam, no i just installed ubuntu on the full disk, i mean its just one partition
[03:00] <Broam> xiaogil:  the page might be sending you a different image?
[03:00] <seife`> but i want to remove a part of this partition
[03:00] <seife`> and create another new one
[03:00] <Broam> seife`:  Aha.  And you want to make a second partition?  Hmm.
[03:00] <seife`> can i do that?
[03:00] <xiaogil> Broam: it's amazing, isn't it ?
[03:00] <djk_> tritium: what does 'clearing orphaned inode' mean?
[03:00] <Broam> seife`:  I believe so, don't quote me.  If nothing else, you could use gparted or something like that
[03:00] <Broam> seife`;  WAit.  I'm an idiot. Yes, you can.
[03:01] <navarone> seife> you can go thru install process...do the partitioning...ie. resize existing and then back out of install when changes to partitions are written?
[03:01] <xiaogil> Broam: how to download the big image with a command line then ?
[03:01] <tritium> djk_, you're running fsck?
[03:01] <Broam> djk:  Ever have a windows installation complain about lost chains that became CHK files?  Same thing
[03:01] <seife`> what can i do
[03:01] <Toma-> !vnc
[03:01] <ubotu> I guess vnc is http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html
[03:01] <Broam> xiaogil: Try giving it the same user agent string
[03:01] <xiaogil> Broam: what do you mean ?
[03:01] <seife`> Broam, what can i do man
[03:02] <tritium> JesusSaves, does that give you enough info to get started?
[03:02] <jgrieves> how do you make a symbolic link to a directory
[03:02] <jgrieves> ln -?
[03:02] <Broam> xiaogil: Every browswer sends information about what program it is to the website
[03:02] <xspades> ln -s target shortcut
[03:02] <Broam> xiaogil: You need to send the same user agent string that firefox sends with wget
[03:02] <jgrieves> xspades doesn't work for directories/
[03:02] <jgrieves> ?
[03:02] <xspades> it does
[03:02] <Broam> seife`:  I would say short of anything else anyone tells you, you might be able to use the installer to repartition
[03:02] <xspades> ln -s /usr/bin ~/bin
[03:03] <jgrieves> xspades hmm
[03:03] <Broam> seife`:  But that's not exactly the most elegant solution
[03:03] <xiaogil> Broam: how to know this user agent ?
[03:03] <djk_> tritium: no, was during bootup..
[03:03] <seife`> give me another solution, i cant use a program?
[03:03] <jgrieves> xspades yeah brian fart
[03:03] <jgrieves> xspades had trailing /
[03:03] <tritium> djk_, did you not shutdown properly?
[03:03] <Broam> seife`:  yeah, you can.   Try gparted or fdisk
[03:03] <djk_> tritium: no, was forced to use the resetbutton :(
[03:04] <tritium> ah, ok
[03:04] <Broam> seife`:  The problem is that it may be difficult to do so while you have the thing mounted
[03:04] <ryanpg> later all
[03:04] <djk_> tritium: for some unknown reason to me suddenly the load average went from 0.10 to over 15
[03:04] <jgrieves> tritium thanks :)
[03:05] <Broam> Stupid question time.
[03:05] <seife`> Broam, what u mean wt.
[03:05] <tritium> djk_, wow
[03:05] <djk_> tritium: absolutely nothing worked anymore
[03:05] <Broam> seife`:  You can't edit a disk you're using at the time.  That's why I said try the installer--you need to boot off of something else
[03:05] <navarone> seife> try gparted...not sure if you need to use a boot cd or floppy though if you want to work on mounted partition
[03:05] <Broam> Stupid question time: How do I get a breezy install to use XFCE4?  I'm fairly sure I have the package installed
[03:05] <JesusSaves> wow that system package manager is nice
[03:05] <JesusSaves> now i can install g++
[03:05] <JesusSaves> finally
[03:05] <Broam> JesusSaves: Ain't it?
[03:05] <seife`> how i part the disk with the installer? ;/
[03:06] <navarone> Broam...at login click session and choose xfce
[03:06] <xspades> Broam, select xfce on gdm login as the session
[03:06] <tritium> JesusSaves, you're easiest solution is to install build-essential
[03:06] <tritium> Broam, you installed xubuntu-desktop already?
[03:06] <Broam> please tell me it's not that stupid
[03:06] <Broam> please tell me I have an IQ above 60
[03:06] <xiaogil> Broam: it seems that tcpdump could do the job but i don't understand how to use it...
[03:06] <Broam> xiaogil:  I know there's a way to specify it.  Try reading the man pages?
[03:07] <JesusSaves> build essential?
[03:07] <JesusSaves> what is that
[03:07] <djk_> Broam: well _if_ you have it installed, just select it in gdm/kdm next time
[03:07] <Broam> JesusSaves: That's essential for compiling stuff
[03:07] <JesusSaves> so it seems like that system program manager is real nice don't even need any rpms
[03:07] <bimberi> !info build-essential
[03:07] <xiaogil> Broam: yes I'm trying, but I don't get it
[03:07] <JesusSaves> oh where can i get it?
[03:07] <ubotu> build-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 11.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[03:07] <Broam> tritum:  yeah
[03:07] <tritium> JesusSaves, sudo aptitude install build-essential
[03:07] <Broam> Okay, after that bout of stupidity, I need a soda
[03:07] <JesusSaves> are there server essentials too? like php, mysql, apache ?
[03:08] <djk_> tritium: so what is the inode message?
[03:08] <Broam> I remember having to hack certain files in SuSE to use XDM instead of GDM because I didn't have enough memory
[03:08] <JesusSaves> i'm running ubuntu using VMWARE, do you recommend keeping it that way for a webserver?
[03:08] <nickrud> JesusSaves, you can search for packages in the package manager by hitting control-f (try mysql, etc)
[03:08] <tritium> JesusSaves, on the other hand, you may prefer to use the gui front end, synaptic (Sytem->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager)
[03:08] <JesusSaves> yeah but if there were just a list of servers it would be nice
[03:08] <JesusSaves> yes tritium i'm using it thanks
[03:08] <JesusSaves> i am not a console lover
[03:08] <Broam> JesusSaves: There is, it's in /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:08] <JesusSaves> uhh ?
[03:09] <JesusSaves> i love GUIs
[03:09] <JesusSaves> what is a good editor to make GUI apps for linux?
[03:09] <tritium> djk_, just an error with your filesystem since you shutdown abruptly
[03:09] <Broam> JesusSaves:  You will probably want the Glade interface designer
[03:09] <JesusSaves> kdevelop?
[03:09] <Broam> djk_:  I wouldn't worry aobut that orphaned inode
[03:09] <JesusSaves> ok got it, is it easy to port with windows?
[03:09] <Broam> JesusSaves:  (re: kdevelop) That's probably only useful if you're using KDE
[03:09] <djk_> Broam: i don't worry ;) i just want to know :)
[03:10] <JesusSaves> oh i'm using gnome
[03:10] <JesusSaves> i love ubuntu, it feels just like windows
[03:10] <tritium> JesusSaves, there's anjuta for gnome
[03:10] <JesusSaves> only its linux
[03:10] <JesusSaves> anjuta is good?
[03:10] <djk_> tritium: so basically it just told me that it fixed the error?
[03:10] <Broam> JesusSaves: I know GTK+ is portable to Windows; I don't know if glade designs GTK+ stuff.  I was going to do some linux coding but I decided I'd rather get good at using the system first
[03:10] <JesusSaves> cross-platform ?
[03:10] <tritium> djk_, yes
[03:10] <rhouse> anjuta is pretty nice
[03:10] <Broam> Holy heck XFCE is fast
[03:10] <JesusSaves> yeah i am a Windows developer
[03:10] <djk_> tritium: good thanks, never had to use the resetbutton with linux before..
[03:10] <JesusSaves> just thought i'd try out ubuntu
[03:10] <Broam> And yes, I heart the mono
[03:11] <tritium> heh, hadn't seen it called C-hash before
[03:11] <Broam> JesusSaves: I love ubuntu.  It's great.  I can't do everything but I love finding out where things are and going "wow, that was so easy..."
[03:11] <Broam> I just read that today too, the C-hash thing
[03:11] <tritium> not C-sharp?
[03:12] <Broam> It's really C-sharp (C#) but I like C-hash
[03:12] <rev> hi
[03:12] <Broam> it summs up some of the more esoteric parts of the language nicely :)
[03:12] <johnblackhorse> tritium: it is C-pound and don't you forget it!
[03:12] <Broam> C-tic-tac-toe
[03:12] <tritium> johnblackhorse, ha, okay
[03:12] <tritium> And Pink Floyd sang "no dock sockasm in the clossroom" too
[03:12] <rev> i have a fresh install of kubuntu. i can't get any root access
[03:13] <JesusSaves> ahhhh nautulus just crashed
[03:13] <dashinho> Hello, I have a question. Shipit shipped me like one year a go Ubuntu 4.10, now I want to install it (1 year later)... After I install it can I update it to the 5.10 ?
[03:13] <Broam> rev:  You should be able to just do kdesu
[03:13] <Broam> and use your password for your user
[03:13] <crimsun> dashinho: yes, but you have to do a bit of tweaking on your own
[03:13] <Broam> dashinho: Yes.  You will need to change your /etc/apt/sources.list, plus some tweaking
[03:14] <xspades> dashinho, update sources.list to breezy, apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:14] <rev> says kdesu is not a command
[03:14] <dashinho> xspades, thats all?
[03:14] <rev> rev@box1:~$ su
[03:14] <rev> Password:
[03:14] <rev> su: Authentication failure
[03:14] <rev> Sorry.
[03:14] <rev> rev@box1:~$
[03:14] <JesusSaves> ok i installed a bunch of stuff using that system packager thing, now how do i run tightvnc server?
[03:14] <JesusSaves> i don't see it on my applications list
[03:15] <Broam> JesusSaves: apt-get install menu
[03:15] <Broam> rev:  try sudo su
[03:15] <Broam> yes, that works
[03:15] <xspades> dashinho, pretty much, ubuntuguide.org has an entry for upgrading from warty/hoary to breezy
[03:15] <linux_newb> how do i install kde
[03:15] <johnblackhorse> ubotu: tell rev about sudo
[03:15] <rev> sudo workd
[03:15] <icerabbit> Not sure if you still remember me Broam, it was only a few seconds ago, but when i use "apt-get install xserver-xorg-drive-ati" i get a return saying it cant find the package
[03:15] <Broam> ubotu, tell linux_newb about kde
[03:15] <linux_newb> ty
[03:15] <johnblackhorse> Broam: please do not advise that, it is redundant. sudo -i  does the same thing
[03:15] <Broam> icerabbit: I'm not that forgetful...yet
[03:15] <JesusSaves>  Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[03:15] <JesusSaves> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[03:16] <Broam> johnblackhorse: really?  Hmm.
[03:16] <dashinho> Is a better idea to download 5.10 iso's and burn it into a CD?
[03:16] <bimberi> dashinho: yes, if that's feasible
[03:16] <crimsun> dashinho: yes
[03:16] <JesusSaves> tritium, u there?
[03:16] <Broam> Neat.
[03:16] <JesusSaves> i installed g++, but how do i get it to work... along with tightvnc server?
[03:16] <dashinho> well, then i am going to do that on this night.
[03:16] <JesusSaves> at least i think I did
[03:17] <tritium> yes, JesusSaves.  What's up?
[03:17] <tritium> JesusSaves, do you have a c++ program you'd like to compile with g++?
[03:17] <icerabbit> is there anyway that i could download the fglrx driver through the console?
[03:17] <Broam> Oh wow, that's so much better
[03:18] <tritium> icerabbit, yes.  sudo aptitude install xorg-driver-fglrx
[03:18] <Gunblade> Can anyone help me with installing a Teamspeak sserver? I get as far as basically extracting it.... <_<;
[03:18] <crimsun> (note that semantically ''sudo -s'' is closer to ''sudo su'')
[03:18] <icerabbit> thank you tritium
[03:18] <Broam> icerabbit:  You know how to switch between TTY's right?
[03:18] <icerabbit> No... What is a TTY Broam?
[03:18] <icerabbit> or wait.. ill google it
[03:18] <navarone> Okay...I am off...take care folks
[03:19] <dashinho> Another litle thing. I am planning on downloading kubuntu. If I dont like it, can I install gnome on it ?
[03:19] <Broam> Well, by default in ubuntu you have 6 text logins on a box
[03:19] <crimsun> dashinho: yes
[03:19] <Broam> Ctrl-Alt-F1 through F6
[03:19] <icerabbit> ooooh so i see
[03:19] <Broam> Ctrl-Alt-F7 is your GUI
[03:19] <Ishotweb> hello everyone
[03:20] <Broam> It's so useful when something hangs your GUI to step out into a text login and kill it
[03:20] <JesusSaves> tritium yep
[03:20] <JesusSaves> i guess i have to use full path
[03:20] <tritium> icerabbit, you got linux-amd64-generic or -k8 installed (along with linux-restricted-modules)?
[03:20] <dashinho> k thank you guys!
[03:20] <tritium> JesusSaves, ok, sounds like you're figuring it out
[03:20] <JesusSaves> tritium, what about the tightvnc viewer? like where does this stuff install to?
[03:20] <icerabbit> Broam: I'll keep that in mind when I get X to actually work
[03:20] <icerabbit> tritium: yes i installed it
[03:20] <tritium> JesusSaves, "dpkg -L tightvncserver" will list all the files in the package
[03:21] <tritium> icerabbit, good deal
[03:21] <Gunblade> Can anyone help me with installing a Teamspeak sserver? I get as far as basically extracting it....
[03:21] <jgrieves> dang it
[03:21] <jgrieves> why can't i get mouse prefernces to pick up /usr/share/gnome/cursor-fonts/
[03:21] <jesse_> Can Someone Help Me With Getting Limewire on my computer
[03:21] <Ishotweb> can someone help me out? i'm very new to Ubuntu, and linux in general, trying to compile Wine, it looks like gcc isn't in my path and i'm having trouble adding it
[03:21] <tritium> Ishotweb, any reason you're not using the wine binary packages?
[03:21] <jgrieves> Ishotweb just apt-get i :)
[03:22] <xiaogil> Broam: I tried the command 'wget --user-agent=""  http://ndweb.iis.sinica.edu.tw/archaeo2_public/Include/GetImage_FileName.jsp?filename=R024974ccwa&type=3' to download the big jpeg file, but still it download the small one, could you help me to make this work ?
[03:22] <jgrieves> Ishotweb sudo apt-get install wine
[03:22] <hammerabi> Broam: 6 text logins in a box?
[03:22] <Ishotweb> Hmm i've been following a tutorial and i needed to modify a few files before i compiled Wine, that's why i didn't get the binary
[03:22] <icerabbit> ok... I'll try aptitude and installing fglrx drivers then I'll brb
[03:22] <icerabbit> thanks again guys
[03:22] <Broam> hammerabi:  It's umm...I forget how this gets explained
[03:23] <j> Hey.  I'm trying to run Ubuntu, but I can't get the live cd to boot up (on either on my computers).  Are there any steps I have to do to the iso before I can use it?  I've changed the bios settings to boot from cd first
[03:23] <jesse_> Does AnyOne Know How To Put Limewire On Ubuntu?
[03:23] <badmacktuck> is firefox 1.5 in the repo yet? if so whats the package called?
[03:23] <JesusSaves> Password:
[03:23] <JesusSaves> Verify:
[03:23] <JesusSaves> Couldn't start Xtightvnc; trying default font path.
[03:23] <JesusSaves> Please set correct fontPath in the tightvncserver script.
[03:23] <JesusSaves> Couldn't start Xtightvnc process.
[03:23] <jgrieves> badmacktuck no
[03:23] <Broam> hammerabi:  Dates back to the days when there were multiple serial consoles--people would use these 'dumb terminals' to log into a machine over serial
[03:23] <Dood_Seth> does ubuntu run on RS/6000 (ppc) ?
[03:23] <JesusSaves> whats up?
[03:23] <badmacktuck> jgrieves, bugger. thanks
[03:23] <Broam> xiaogil: try setting the useragent equal to:
[03:23] <jgrieves> badmacktuck you can downlaod tarball
[03:23] <hammerabi> Broam: oh, you mean six vts, right
[03:23] <jgrieves> badmacktuck off of mozilla site
[03:24] <hammerabi> hammerabi: though you were talking about user accounts or such
[03:24] <whatthedeuce> anyone know what the problem could be with the live cd?
[03:24] <Gunblade> srs can no one help me out with installing TS server?
[03:24] <badmacktuck> jgrieves, is that a lot of work to install that way?
[03:24] <JesusSaves> Fatal server error:
[03:24] <JesusSaves> could not open default font 'fixed'
[03:24] <jgrieves> badmacktuck nope there is a wiki entry about it
[03:24] <Broam> xiaogil: "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8) Gecko/20051202 Ubuntu/1.4.99+1.5rc3.dfsg-1ubuntu4 Firefox/1.5"
[03:24] <Broam> that's my useragent string
[03:24] <hammerabi> Gunblade: "srs" is not a word; if no one here can help you, though, perhaps try the forums or the mailing list
[03:24] <jgrieves> !tell badmacktuck about firefox
[03:24] <jgrieves> ?
[03:24] <hammerabi> Gunblade: I'd be rather shocked if you couldn't find any sort of howto in the interweb, though.
[03:24] <Ishotweb> i use PATH=$PATH:/usr/lib/gcc to add that directory to the path, correct?
[03:24] <Broam> hammerabi: Yeah, that
[03:24] <Dood_Seth> JesusSaves:  can I holla atcha fa a minnit ?
[03:24] <jesse_> no one can help me?
[03:25] <JesusSaves> Dood_Seth, ?
[03:25] <jgrieves> badmacktuck sorry, check out wiki, really easy
[03:25] <Gunblade> there is from Teamspeak but the commands are not working once you extract the folder
[03:25] <xiaogil> Broam: no, it still downloads the small file
[03:25] <Dood_Seth> JesusSaves: may I speaketh with thee for a moment
[03:25] <hammerabi> jesse_: no, no one can help you
[03:25] <Broam> Dood_Seth: I'm not sure.  Debian probably does, as does NetBSD.  Unsure about ubuntu
[03:25] <johnsie2k> hi is there any way t chnage the screen hz on breezy?
[03:25] <badmacktuck> haha, okay thanks jgrieves
[03:25] <Broam> xiaogil: Hmm.  Visit this web site
[03:25] <hammerabi> jesse_: however, if you'd used google to begin with, you'd be done by now
[03:25] <jesse_> o ok thankyou
[03:25] <starscalling> eh
[03:25] <Broam> with your firefox
[03:25] <whatthedeuce> can anyone help me?  I'd like to be able to run Ubuntu before christmas
[03:25] <starscalling> how can i redit grub?
[03:25] <jesse_> what do i type in google
[03:25] <whatthedeuce> (I'm getting a new computer, which I want to run Ubuntu on)
[03:25] <Broam> xiaogil: http://www.cambiaresearch.com/cambia3/myuseragent/
[03:26] <johnsie2k> Also, anyone here know anything about laptop lcds?
[03:26] <Broam> whatthedeuce: You have my attention
[03:26] <starscalling> eh let me be more specific
[03:26] <starscalling> i had windows then ubuntu then grub worked good..
[03:26] <starscalling> then windows took a crap.. so i had to reinstall it
[03:26] <bimberi> Ishotweb: the binary is much easier to work with - for more recent versions just add "deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/
[03:26] <bimberi> " to your sources.list then update and install
[03:26] <hammerabi> johnsie2k: it's a lot simpler if you just ask your question straight away
[03:26] <starscalling> so now the grub is gone./.
[03:26] <Broam> starscalling: windows installs overwrite grub
[03:26] <starscalling> i have a gentoo live cd
[03:27] <starscalling> can i do grub from that>?
[03:27] <Ishotweb> bimberi: i can't use the binary because i needed to edit one of the DLL files in the source to do what i need to do.. so i need to edit and recompile
[03:27] <starscalling> i dont have the ubuntu live cd atm
[03:27] <Broam> starscalling:  You may have better luck, instead of using grub, having your windows install have a menu entry to boot linux
[03:27] <johnsie2k> ok lol... I chnaged my laptop lcd and now its a little shakey but almost readable... anyone know the cause?
[03:27] <JesusSaves> Doonz, ?
[03:27] <JesusSaves> that guy left
[03:27] <hammerabi> johnsie2k: changed?
[03:27] <Broam> starscalling:  other option is to use lilo to boot off another partition and tell your BIOS to boot off of that instead
[03:27] <hammerabi> johnsie2k: you physically removed the lcd from your laptop?
[03:27] <johnsie2k> yeah
[03:27] <xspades> johnsie2k, tryed reconfiguing xorg?
[03:27] <JesusSaves> tritium, thanks for your help.. do you happen to know why the server won't start up?
[03:28] <bimberi> Ishotweb: ah, ok, have you installed build-essential? (includes gcc plus some other useful things)
[03:28] <hammerabi> uh
[03:28] <whatthedeuce> My computers (I've tried it on two) can't boot from the Linux live cd.  Is there anything I have to do to the iso before burning it?  I've changed my bios settings, but it still won't boot from the cd
[03:28] <starscalling> Broam how do i get it to lilo
[03:28] <dwhsix> SCMark: any luck with other resolutions?
[03:28] <starscalling> i can tell bios to boot off different partition./... or different hdd anyway
[03:28] <dooglus> whatthedeuce: try the hoary cd instead of breezy.  that works for me.
[03:28] <hammerabi> whatthedeuce: does it boot other cds?
[03:28] <johnsie2k> how dod you do that? I dont think its a linux problem cos the hp logo is shakey on bootup too
[03:28] <Broam> starscalling: You may have some luck using the install CD.  I'm not real familiar with that stuff, sorry...
[03:28] <starscalling> eh thanx
[03:28] <Broam> johnsie2k: You might have a loose connection
[03:28] <dwhsix> I did the dpkg-reconfigure (from single-user mode), did h\get 1600 by something, but my LCD doesn't like it... so sticking with 1280x1024 for now.
[03:28] <hammerabi> johnsie2k: that sounds like it's physically damaged; e.g. loose connection, bent board
[03:28] <dooglus> whatthedeuce: you should burn the .iso file as an image, not as a file, of course.  if you list the contents of the CD using windows you should see a bunch of files, not just one .iso file
[03:29] <Broam> starscalling: Sorry I'm not real familiar with that stuff.  It has been done a lot, so you should be able to find howtos on the internets
[03:29] <dwhsix> messed with fonts and other theme stuff to get more usable screen real estate
[03:29] <Ishotweb> bimberi: ah... that may be it... one second i'll install it. for some reason i thought i had already done that
[03:29] <tritium> JesusSaves, you're sure it did not?
[03:29] <whatthedeuce> I'll try the install cd.  There isn't anything blatent I have to do to the iso before burning it?  I've had problems installing other Linux distros (I'm running Debian right now)
[03:29] <dooglus> whatthedeuce: did you list the CD contents in windows or debian?
[03:29] <johnsie2k> Well... the replacement screen wasnt the exact sane number so I'm surprised it's working at all lol
[03:29] <sergio> Hi, I have a proble with Rhythmbox 0.9.0, when I play a song, it doesn't display the name, the correct long, the album, it only says unknown and whe you see the time the song is it's only a few seconds, how i can fix it?
[03:29] <hammerabi> whatthedeuce: no, just configure your bios to boot the cd, and burn it correctly
[03:29] <xiaogil> Broam: i tried with my user-agent (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; zh-CN; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051010 Firefox/1.0.7 (Ubuntu package 1.0.7)), but the result is the same, it doesn't work, the problem looks to come from somewhere else
[03:30] <Mr_Milenko> theodora?
[03:30] <JesusSaves> i dunno let me check
[03:30] <whatthedeuce> list the CD contents?
[03:30] <xspades> johnsie2k, reconfigure xorg, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:30] <Broam> xiaogil: I'm out of ideas, sorry. :(
[03:30] <transgress> okay my friend's computer won't reboot ... it just immediately drops him to a shell after it goes to sync his clock with ntpd
[03:30] <hammerabi> sergio: useful details would include what file format it is, and whether it affects all formats or just one
[03:30] <JesusSaves> how do i find my IP address
[03:30] <hammerabi> transgress: something ate his/her disk
[03:30] <zoexii> hey, I need some help compiling 'gens'... I can't even get so far as running ./configure   It returns "error: cannot run /bin/sh ./config.sub
[03:30] <Broam> Anyone know how I'd change a computer's hostname quickly?
[03:30] <dooglus> whatthedeuce: like put the CD in while running windows or debian and do a "dir" or "ls" to see what's on it.  if you see "<something>.iso" then you burnt it wrong.
[03:30] <Ishotweb> bimberi: thanks for the help... that did it
[03:30] <johnsie2k> if i changed the board do you think that would help?
[03:30] <djk_> JesusSaves: ifconfig
[03:30] <zoexii> what is causing this.
[03:30] <hammerabi> JesusSaves: "ip a", or do you mean "how do I find the IP address that the internet sees me using?"?
[03:30] <bimberi> JesusSaves: ifconfig (look for inet addr)
[03:30] <bimberi> Ishotweb: np :)
[03:30] <xiaogil> Broam: is there another command than wget that could be more efficient ?
[03:31] <hammerabi> Broam: edit /etc/hostname, /etc/hosts, /etc/postfix/* reboot
[03:31] <Mr_Milenko> www.whatismyip.com
[03:31] <Broam> xiaogil: I'm not really sure...
[03:31] <dooglus> xiaogil: netcat is lower level.  what do you mean by efficient?
[03:31] <transgress> hammerabi: huh?
[03:31] <whatthedeuce> I do see something.iso.  How do I burn it properly?
[03:31] <hammerabi> transgress: huh?
[03:32] <xiaogil> dooglus: i mean a command that downloads the same web page as firefox do
[03:32] <dooglus> whatthedeuce: can you run nautilus in debian?
[03:32] <hammerabi> transgress: you gave no details about what it actually said, so I would guess the boot process failed due to the filesystem being broken
[03:32] <djk_> whatthedeuce: with k3b for example..
[03:32] <dooglus> xiaogil: firefox can do that
[03:32] <hammerabi> dooglus: yes
[03:32] <Broam> hammerabi: If I don't have a postfix directory, I don't need to touch it, I take? :)
[03:32] <translocatedfetu> howdy, is there a fast (not involving vanilla kernel sources) way to keep modules I don't need from starting up (rmmod -f has had some unstable consequences).
[03:32] <hammerabi> Broam: yes
[03:32] <sergio> Hi, I have a proble with Rhythmbox 0.9.0, when I play a song in MP3 format, it doesn't display the name, the correct long, the album, it only says unknown and whe you see the time the song is it's only a few seconds, how i can fix it?
[03:32] <xiaogil> dooglus: can i use firefox as a command line ?
[03:32] <dooglus> hammerabi: so right-click on the .iso file in nautilus and select 'burn image' or some such
[03:32] <hammerabi> translocatedfetu: what modules?
[03:32] <Techie_dude> how do i unzip tar.bz2 files?
[03:32] <tritium> translocatedfetu, blacklist them
[03:32] <translocatedfetu> parport
[03:32] <hammerabi> dooglus: yup
[03:32] <dooglus> xiaogil: you can run firefox from the command line, yes.
[03:32] <iSlermukka> hello guys
[03:32] <transgress> hammerabi: it isn't giving any error whatsoever...
[03:33] <Broam> Techie_dude:  file roller should be able to handle it
[03:33] <translocatedfetu> tritium, thanks i will look that up
[03:33] <dooglus> xiaogil: what don't you like about wget?
[03:33] <iSlermukka> im wondering if i should change my OS to linux
[03:33] <hammerabi> translocatedfetu: is it hotplug loading them? if so, what tritium said (ie edit /etc/hotplug/blacklist)
[03:33] <Techie_dude> what is fileroller?
[03:33] <djk_> Techie_dude: tar -xjf
[03:33] <iSlermukka> but..
[03:33] <hammerabi> iSlermukka: no
[03:33] <dooglus> Techie_dude: it's like winzip
[03:33] <whatthedeuce> sorry, but I missed that.  How could I burn the iso image properly with windows (my Linux computer has no burner)
[03:33] <iSlermukka> why not?
[03:33] <iSlermukka> :D
[03:33] <Broam> Techie_dude: It's a GUI archiver utility like Winzip or something.
[03:33] <hammerabi> Techie_dude: a crappy "archive manager" for gnome, ala winzip
[03:33] <hammerabi> whatthedeuce: that depends entirely on what windows software you are using
[03:33] <Broam> Techie_dude: tar -xjf will also work.
[03:33] <hammerabi> iSlermukka: if you have to ask, you're only going to be disappointed
[03:33] <iSlermukka> hammerabi
[03:33] <Techie_dude> i'll go with broam.....
[03:33] <dooglus> whatthedeuce: you can do it using some versions of nero, but it depends what version
[03:34] <hammerabi> iSlermukka: you might like to try it, tho, and see if you'd be happy running it along with whatecver else you use
[03:34] <transgress> usually if it's something needing to be blacklisted it hangs... this is just dropping him to a shell
[03:34] <dooglus> Broam: the 'j' option to "tar xf" is never needed
[03:34] <iSlermukka> i will try it. but i just want to know if it's good for the things i do
[03:34] <hammerabi> transgress: it prints nothing at all?
[03:34] <Broam> dooglus: I'm simply parroting hammerabi (no dead parroting sketch jokes please)
[03:34] <johnsie2k> when i reconfigure xorg do i need to reboot?
[03:34] <hammerabi> dooglus: tar automatically uses -j if it's a .tar.bz2?
[03:34] <hammerabi> johnsie2k: no
[03:34] <transgress> hammerabi: it is printed the shit it's loading... once it gets to ntpd it drops him to a shell... not like a login... just a shell.
[03:35] <whatthedeuce> would I be able to do it with the newest version of nero?
[03:35] <djk_> whatthedeuce: yes
[03:35] <dooglus> Broam: "tar xf" will unpack an archive whether it's uncompressed, compressed, gzipped or bzip2ed
[03:35] <hammerabi> johnsie2k: not in general, anyway.  if you're using binary-only modules, it may or may not work
[03:35] <hammerabi> but that's nvidia/ati's problem
[03:35] <xiaogil> dooglus: my problem is that when i wget a web page (http://ndweb.iis.sinica.edu.tw/archaeo2_public/Include/GetImage_FileName.jsp?filename=R024974ccwa&type=3), i get a small jpeg image, and when i download the same page using firefox, i get a the same image in a bigger resolution. I'd like to be able to download that image with a command line, but there's no way to do it with wget.
[03:35] <Broam> hammerabi: apparently not. :)
[03:35] <dooglus> hammerabi: it doesn't look at the filename, it looks at the file
[03:35] <iSlermukka> i want to know if ubuntu is good for irc, msn messenger, playing music, watching videos, playing few games.
[03:35] <hammerabi> dooglus: oh, neat
[03:35] <Broam> dooglus: with the 'file' utility?  Good old file magic!
[03:35] <johnsie2k> what is the purpose of an inverter board?
[03:35] <Techie_dude> bzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file.
[03:35] <hammerabi> transgress: it prints no error at all?  the last line is "starting ntp...[done] ", then a shell?
[03:35] <zoexii> iSlermukka, mostly... yes.
[03:35] <iSlermukka> oh and of course ware
[03:35] <Broam> Techie_dude: You need to give it a file to uncompress
[03:35] <whatthedeuce> thanks.  Sorry for the stupid questions, but I'm still pretty bad with Linux
[03:35] <hammerabi> iSlermukka: depends what games
[03:35] <Techie_dude> i did
[03:35] <iSlermukka> wow + CS
[03:36] <dooglus> Broam: it doesn't use the 'file' utility, but it uses the same technology - it just looks at the first few bytes to check how/if it's compressed
[03:36] <Broam> Techie_dude:  Then it's not really a bz2 file...hmm.
[03:36] <Broam> dooglus:  Good enough.
[03:36] <transgress> hammerabi: actually i'm not sure it says done on ntp ... let me look... but yeah it just drops to a shell after that
[03:36] <Techie_dude> wine-0.9.2.tar.bz2.gz.....that is the file name
[03:36] <Broam> Hahah, .bz2.gz
[03:36] <hammerabi> transgress: bear in mind that no one else can see the screen, so you have be extremely specific about exactly what happens
[03:36] <Broam> that's a new one on me
[03:36] <dooglus> .bz2.gz?  that's one messed up file type :)
[03:36] <hammerabi> Broam: it's like avi.rar!
[03:36] <Broam> Techie_dude: is there as reason you didn't use synaptic to get the wine binary?
[03:36] <dooglus> Techie_dude: try "gunzip <file>" on it
[03:36] <_native_> ive seup a installation with the server option for a clean light install i have fluxbox up and running now i have no accel : Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:37] <whatthedeuce> are there any free programs I could use to burn it?  Nero doesn't have a free trial, and I can't afford $70 right now
[03:37] <iSlermukka> hammerabi
[03:37] <Broam> Did someone have problems with a laptop not wanting to shut down earlier?  Mine's doing the same thing
[03:37] <tritium> whatthedeuce, nautilus, k3b, graveman, gnomebaker
[03:37] <iSlermukka> can i run wow + CS on ubuntu?
[03:37] <bob832> if i wanted to install a program, would i use the .deb version or the rpm version?
[03:37] <dooglus> whatthedeuce: nautilus is free
[03:37] <djk_> iSlermukka: with wine /cedega probably yes.
[03:37] <Broam> iSlermukka: You will need Wine or Cedega or something, but yes you can run most windows programs on Ubuntu
[03:37] <Techie_dude> gunzip didn't work.
[03:37] <iSlermukka> ok
[03:37] <dooglus> Techie_dude: how?
[03:37] <Broam> Techie_dude: Where did you get that file?
[03:37] <iSlermukka> dudes thgx
[03:37] <_native_> i have it seems all the dri stuff and opengl stuff i need but...
[03:37] <Techie_dude> off of surge force
[03:37] <Broam> iSlermukka: No worries.
[03:37] <djk_> bob832: the deb
[03:38] <iSlermukka> ok
[03:38] <iSlermukka> nice
[03:38] <dooglus> Techie_dude: what does "file <file>" tell you?  (where you replace <file> with the filename)
[03:38] <iSlermukka> ill install ubuntu tomorrow
[03:38] <bob832> djk_: thanks
[03:38] <djk_> bob832: but rather use the repos if you have to ask ;)
[03:38] <iSlermukka> i hate windows so much
[03:38] <Broam> tritium: WOW = World of Warcraft.  A Blizzard game, obviously
[03:38] <hammerabi> tritium: world of warcraft, I think
[03:38] <hammerabi> some sort of everquest clone
[03:38] <Techie_dude> wine-0.9.2.tar.bz2.gz: ERROR: cannot open `wine-0.9.2.tar.bz2.gz' (No such file or directory)
[03:38] <dooglus> Techie_dude: so what's the file really called?
[03:38] <Broam> iSlermukka: Do you have a second machine, or are you doing to blow your current windows install away?  If it's the second, i recommend you back stuff up first
[03:38] <bob832> :)
[03:38] <dooglus> Techie_dude: perhaps you need to 'cd' to the right place first?
[03:38] <Techie_dude> i dunno all i know is its wine....
[03:38] <tritium> Broam, well, I wouldn't say "obviously".  I don't know games...
[03:39] <Broam> wine-0.9.2.tar.bz2.gz.rar.arj.arc.lha!
[03:39] <dooglus> .uue.md5
[03:39] <Techie_dude> what is that
[03:39] <Broam> tritium: I stand corrected, sorry
[03:39] <djk_> Broam: you forget zip and ace :p
[03:39] <iSlermukka> Broam: ill put all my important stuff to my other harddrive
[03:39] <whatthedeuce> does nautilus work with Windows?  I can't burn on my Linux computer
[03:39] <Broam> Techie_dude: We find it odd that it would be compressed two different ways, is all
[03:39] <JesusSaves> question, does anyone know how to get my local IP address? and how can I add an alias for g++ to auto-run g++-4.0
[03:39] <Falstius> JesusSaves: /sbin/ifconfig
[03:39] <dooglus> JesusSaves: "ifconfig" will tell you your local IPs
[03:39] <crimsun> JesusSaves: by default g++ _is_ g++-4.0
[03:39] <iSlermukka> broam i also have another comp, i could try it there
[03:39] <hammerabi> JesusSaves: do not mess with g++, at all
[03:39] <Techie_dude> then how do i unzip it?
[03:39] <Broam> iSlermukka: I'd recommend that
[03:39] <zoexii> whattheduce, there are plenty of shareware apps for burning iso in windows,
[03:40] <Broam> Techie_dude: That's a *very* good question.
[03:40] <Razor-X> does Open Office 1 support XIM?
[03:40] <zoexii> whatthedeuce, do a search at versiontracker and you will find simething
[03:40] <Broam> Techie_dude: try the command:  file <filename>
[03:40] <hammerabi> JesusSaves: "ip a" will show you your local ip addres, as will ifconfig
[03:40] <Broam> and tell me what it spits out
[03:40] <dooglus> Techie_dude: try "cd Desktop" before the "file <file>" command
[03:40] <iSlermukka> ok thx dudes
[03:40] <iSlermukka> ill get some sleep now
[03:40] <dooglus> Techie_dude: or cd to wherever you saved it to
[03:40] <iSlermukka> its 4.40 here
[03:40] <iSlermukka> c ya
[03:40] <Broam> Razor-X:  Refresh me on what XIM is again
[03:40] <Razor-X> Broam: X Input Methods
[03:40] <alekz> anyone has working the aMSN version that supports webcam ?
[03:41] <Techie_dude> okay if i get wine from the synaptic what all do i need.......i already cded it!
[03:41] <hammerabi> alekz: doesn't gaim support that?
[03:41] <Razor-X> Broam: so that I'll be able to get kinput2 to work, basically
[03:41] <Broam> Razor-X:  you mean like IME's and stuff? I *believe* so but the only accessibility tool I've been using lately is dasher, and that's busted in dapper
[03:41] <alekz> hammerabi, nope
[03:41] <hammerabi> even gaim-vv?
[03:41] <dooglus> Techie_dude: after the 'cd' command, do "ls -l wine*" - what's that show?
[03:41] <Razor-X> Broam: I see
[03:41] <JesusSaves> omg this is so sweet
[03:41] <bimberi> Ishotweb: add "deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ breezy/" to your sources.list
[03:41] <JesusSaves> i am connected to the VNC server
[03:41] <JesusSaves> hardcore
[03:41] <bimberi> Techie_dude: add "deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ breezy/" to your sources.list
[03:41] <bimberi> sry Ishotweb :)
[03:41] <Techie_dude> ls: wine: No such file or directory
[03:42] <JesusSaves> thanks guys
[03:42] <dooglus> Techie_dude: I said "ls -l wine*"
[03:42] <JesusSaves> you are sweeeeeeeeet
[03:42] <JesusSaves> helped me a lot
[03:42] <Broam> JesusSaves:  You are the welcome.
[03:42] <JesusSaves> one more question (how can i auto-start this tightvncserver on startup?)
[03:42] <JesusSaves> like a normal server?
[03:42] <Broam> JesusSaves:  Look into rc.d
[03:42] <Techie_dude> -rw-r--r--  1 jared jared 10301088 2005-12-05 20:28 wine-0.9.2.tar.bz2
[03:42] <Broam> I think that's the startup script (I'm starting to get fuzzy on the details)
[03:42] <tritium> Broam, you mean update-rc.d?
[03:42] <Ishotweb> wow this wine compile is taking a long time
[03:42] <dooglus> Techie_dude: so "tar xf wine*" will extract it
[03:43] <hammerabi> if tightvncserver can usefully run as a daemon without configuration, it will run already
[03:43] <Broam> Ishotweb: Yeah, compiles do that.
[03:43] <tritium> JesusSaves, is there no init script in /etc/init.d for it?
[03:43] <Techie_dude> tar: wine: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[03:43] <Techie_dude> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[03:43] <bimberi> JesusSaves: did you sort out the font issue?
[03:43] <dooglus> Techie_dude: re-read my command.  try copy-paste perhaps
[03:43] <Ishotweb> heh yeah
[03:43] <JesusSaves> oh crud another question, i compiled with g++ blah.cpp and it gives me a.out , but when i run a.out it ives me a wacko error: bash: a.out: command not found
[03:43] <dooglus> Techie_dude: do you suffer from asterisk-blindness?
[03:43] <Techie_dude> oh...sorry
[03:43] <Broam> JesusSaves: try ./a.out
[03:44] <tritium> JesusSaves, ./a.out
[03:44] <JesusSaves> bimberi ? umm no
[03:44] <Broam> bwhahha
[03:44] <JesusSaves> how do i get it to work b
[03:44] <sanjuro> hello world ???
[03:44] <dooglus> JesusSaves: add "." to your path, or use a path to it, like /home/user/a.out or ./a.out
[03:44] <Broam> The world says hello.
[03:44] <Broam> ~a.out
[03:44] <sanjuro> hey this is my first irc connection (thanks ubuntu :)
[03:44] <bimberi> JesusSaves: no i don't know, i had similar issues and ended up switching to FreeNX
[03:44] <Broam> wb icerabbit
[03:44] <dooglus> Broam: ~/a.out perhaps.  not ~a.out
[03:44] <icerabbit> thanks broam
[03:44] <JesusSaves> you guys how to use that remote desktop?
[03:44] <Broam> You get anywhere?
[03:45] <JesusSaves> can i just use windows RDC?
[03:45] <JesusSaves> to connect to it?
[03:45] <tritium> JesusSaves, another quick tip:  packages store their documentation in /usr/share/doc/<packagename>
[03:45] <icerabbit> i just have one problem standing between me and a fully operational X
[03:45] <Broam> JesusSaves: The remote desktop is windows RDP yeah.  I think you have the client installed by default
[03:45] <Broam> icerabbit: Lemme guess...screen resolution?
[03:45] <JesusSaves> yeah might as well use that right?
[03:45] <JesusSaves> rarther than vnc?
[03:45] <Broam> JesusSaves:  'rdesktop' is the command.  I do not believe there is a server for *nix
[03:45] <sanjuro> hey broam ?
[03:45] <tritium> JesusSaves, have you checked out System->Preferences->Remove Desktop ?
[03:45] <icerabbit> nope.. its libdri.a
[03:45] <Broam> Remote, not remove
[03:45] <icerabbit> I need to downgrade it apparently
[03:46] <JesusSaves> tritium, yeah but now i just gotta test it out by connecting to it
[03:46] <tritium> right, my mistake ;)
[03:46] <_native_> little help?
[03:46] <Broam> _native_: go ahead
[03:46] <xiaogil> dooglus: don't you have a solution for my problem ?
[03:46] <dooglus> xiaogil: I can't remember what your problem was.
[03:46] <Broam> dooglus:  wget and user agent
[03:47] <dooglus> Broam: go on?
[03:47] <icerabbit> on the forum it says for me to download a file (the old libdri.a) how would i do this through the console?
[03:47] <dooglus> icerabbit: wget <url>
[03:47] <tritium> icerabbit, what on earth are you doing?
[03:47] <starscalling> sup everyone
[03:47] <Broam> dooglus:  something about weird behavior when he uses firefox to connect to this URL vs. Wget. He gets a thumbnail with wget
[03:47] <icerabbit> lol... what the forum tells me to!
[03:48] <tritium> sounds like a messy way to break your system
[03:48] <JesusSaves> yeah wouldn't let me do it in windows
[03:48] <JesusSaves> looks like i can just use tightvnc
[03:48] <Broam> icerabbit: do you also do what your breakfast cereal tells you to do. :P J/K
[03:48] <icerabbit> arg..
[03:48] <JesusSaves> good enough
[03:48] <dooglus> xiaogil: you want to specific a user-agent when using wget?  that's done with the --user-agent flag...
[03:48] <dooglus> xiaogil: there's a man page for wget
[03:48] <sonare> hows it going :)
[03:48] <_native_> i have mass time with ubuntu and hardware accel has always worked out the box but this time i have taken a different route of using fluxbox with the server install option xorg.conf looks just right i posted the error to the pastebin
[03:48] <JesusSaves> ok guys gonna log off
[03:48] <icerabbit> .. well if my breakfast cereal gave me linux advice.. i probably would... lol
[03:48] <JesusSaves> God bless you all I pray Jesus will heal you from your sickness and lead you to eternal life
[03:49] <tritium> icerabbit, in that case, please bring me a beer, and do anything else I tell you ;)
[03:49] <Broam> HAHAHA
[03:49] <xiaogil> dooglus: i tried it already with the following command that changed nothing: wget --user-agent="Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; zh-CN; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051010 Firefox/1.0.7 (Ubuntu package 1.0.7)"  http://ndweb.iis.sinica.edu.tw/archaeo2_public/Include/GetImage_FileName.jsp?filename=R024974ccwa&type=3
[03:49] <sonare> my cheerios tell me ooooooooooooooooooooooo
[03:49] <icerabbit> lol...
[03:49] <Broam> icerabbit: Why does it say to downgrade to that libdri.a?
[03:49] <sonare> what can this mean?
[03:49] <Falstius> can Jesus fix my wine problems?
[03:49] <Broam> No, water isn't in Breezy
[03:49] <johnsie2k> can Jesus fix my lcd?
[03:49] <Techie_dude> gah...the fonfiguring of wine is taking foever
[03:49] <cius> hello all
[03:49] <cius> booo wine
[03:49] <cius> :-)
[03:49] <pepsi> hrm
[03:50] <icerabbit> hmmm...
[03:50] <Broam> If it gives you the whole 'just do it' that's not a real good forum post
[03:50] <zoexii> does anyone here have experience making dgen work?  my ~/.dgen/dgenrc file is empty, and as I understand it, there should be keybindings and whatnot.  I can execute a rom, but have no way to play it.
[03:50] <tritium> icerabbit, pour some lucky charms out on the table, and type what is spelled out on the console...
[03:50] <_native_> i installed fglrx and that didnt do shi*  ?
[03:50] <Broam> I don't know how to type the red balloon in unicode, tritum
[03:50] <icerabbit> would it be dangerous to "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and edit some stuff in there?
[03:51] <Broam> icerabbit:  not if you back it up first
[03:51] <tritium> _native_, did you follow the wiki?
[03:51] <dooglus> xiaogil: I can't resolve that address
[03:51] <Broam> _native_: icerabbit's in the same boat as you
[03:51] <sonare> annnnnyway.. how do i get the mp3 decoder going on a fresh, full install?
[03:51] <kuraia> hi all!
[03:51] <Techie_dude> i'm a noob give me a break....this is the first time i ever used linux.....by the way if you add the repository that the winehq website tells you to....DON'T APT-GET CAMSERV.....it will not let you log in after that it will freeze up at the end of the install and yo reboot and it freezes at username
[03:51] <kuraia> i have a question
[03:51] <Broam> Hello kuraia
[03:51] <kuraia> can anybody help me
[03:51] <kuraia> ?
[03:51] <Techie_dude> make[1] : *** [install]  Error 1
[03:51] <Techie_dude> make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/jared/Desktop/wine-0.9.2/include'
[03:51] <Techie_dude> make: *** [include/__install__]  Error 2
[03:51] <tritium> Techie_dude, please don't paste
[03:51] <sonare> totem says i need to install the plugin apparently
[03:51] <Techie_dude> i don't know how to use that other thing
[03:52] <dooglus> kuraia: not unless you give us a little more to go on
[03:52] <Techie_dude> does anyone have any idea what that means
[03:52] <tritium> Techie_dude, please learn how to use pastebin
[03:52] <Broam> sonare:  the mp3 decoder codec is patented, I believe there's some breezy-extras repository you can find
[03:52] <xiaogil> dooglus: sometimes it works bad, but usually it works fine
[03:52] <_native_> tritum; i have never had to . the only difference is that i did the server option and am using fluxbox besides that all the required packages seem to be present.
[03:52] <kuraia> Broam, hi want to emulate windows xp in ubuntu with qemu,
[03:52] <Broam> ubotu, tell broam about pastebin
[03:52] <Techie_dude> where do i get paste bin
[03:52] <kuraia> dooglus,  hi want to emulate windows xp in ubuntu with qemu,
[03:52] <tritium> Techie_dude, see the topic
[03:52] <Broam> heh.
[03:52] <Techie_dude> ...Broam any idea what that error meant
[03:52] <kuraia> have anybody used qemu?
[03:52] <dooglus> kuraia: what do you want from us?  you want us to talk you out of your windows habit?
[03:52] <Broam> Techie_dude: the compile failed.  Unsure why.
[03:53] <sonare> i simply cannot find anything mp3 or mpeg related in SPM that isnt already installed :{
[03:53] <alekz> anyone has working aMSN 0.95b ?
[03:53] <zoexii> kuraia, yes
[03:53] <Broam> dooglus: Apparently she's having problems with qemu
[03:53] <_native_> is fglrx installed by default?
[03:53] <sonare> can anyone assist me?
[03:53] <sdffffffffffffff> how to extract tar files
[03:53] <tritium> no, _native_
[03:53] <icerabbit> no native
[03:53] <dooglus> sdffffffffffffff: "tar xf <tarfile>"
[03:53] <Broam> sonare: beep media player or xmms has mp3 decoding capabilities (I think they have liscences)
[03:53] <_native_> tritium, ok ive never had to use it
[03:53] <sonare> or is it best to post upon the forums?
[03:53] <kuraia> zoexii, have you emulated windows 2000 on linux?
[03:53] <icerabbit> you have to do "aptitude install xorg-driver-fglrx"
[03:53] <Broam> flgrx is a binary only driver from ATI and is restricted copyright, so it's not in default install
[03:54] <_native_> tritium, my card is supported by the default ati driver
[03:54] <tritium> _native_, you don't _have_ to, but you can
[03:54] <matt247234> hi, does anyone know what could be wrong with my xorg.conf or some other limitation that does not let me set refresh to anything other than 60Hz (conf at http://pastebin.ca/32604)
[03:54] <zoexii> kuraia, I installed XP on qemu... it was to slow to use.  I tried to compile with the kqemu module and got nowhere,
[03:54] <tritium> matt247234, check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:54] <zoexii> kuraia, that's all the experience I've had with it.
[03:54] <kuraia> ok zoexii
[03:54] <Techie_dude> How do i use paste bin
[03:54] <sonare> damn! i just realised my mirc script was hiding nearly all text
[03:55] <kuraia> zoexii, i have used vmware
[03:55] <Broam> matt247234: How good is the ben-q monitor?
[03:55] <_native_> tritium, so whats the deal my xorg.conf is exactly the same as my working config from installation on another disk.
[03:55] <logical_mark> Hey guys, what do I do if I cannot get a CD-RW drive to eject - and yes i have right clicked on it and hit "eject"
[03:55] <Broam> sonare: Try beep media player or XMMS
[03:55] <matt247234> just got it, so far so good though
[03:55] <Toothpick> Greets
[03:55] <tritium> _native_, what errors are you getting?
[03:55] <Broam> logical_mark: make sure nothing's trying to use the disc
[03:55] <cius> Has anyone had  problem where you xorg.conf has resolutions up to 1280x1024 setup in it, but the screen resolution chooser in gnome won't let you go past 1024x768?
[03:55] <sonare> thanks broam. is beep one of those all-in-codec programs?
[03:55] <dooglus> Techie_dude: v----
[03:55] <dooglus> !paste
[03:55] <ubotu> rumour has it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[03:55] <Techie_dude> v------?
[03:55] <Broam> sonare:  Something like that.  XMMS was blowing up for me
[03:56] <_native_> just Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"
[03:56] <dooglus> Techie_dude: sorry.  poor attempt at a down-arrow.
[03:56] <tritium> _native_, if you don't want fglrx, just use "ati" as your driver
[03:56] <_native_> tritium, ive installed all the dri packages except the dev ones
[03:56] <Falstius> everyone knows down arrow is j ;)
[03:56] <_native_> tritium, i have
[03:56] <Techie_dude> ...still don't get it
[03:56] <_native_> tritium, its installed
[03:56] <logical_mark> Boam, there is not even a CD in the drive...
[03:57] <dooglus> Falstius: I thought it was \C-n
[03:57] <tritium> _native_, not sure, then
[03:57] <Broam> logical_mark: So there's no CD in the drive but you can't get the drive door to open?
[03:57] <sonare> one more thing, i couldnt find any package lists for breezy.
[03:57] <Broam> everyone knows down arrow is ~[[B
[03:57] <matt247234> tritium: my xorg log is here: http://pastebin.ca/32608
[03:57] <Trashcan> anyone know why i might be getting 'Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic as user root: Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.' ?
[03:57] <dooglus> logical_mark: last resort: open up a paperclip and poke it into the little hole in the CD drive's door
[03:57] <_native_> damn it i used to be a Xorg master then i changed my field of study. :[
[03:58] <xiaogil> dooglus: it should work if you try again now
[03:58] <logical_mark> Broam: The light on the CD Drive just stays on like it is thinking about opening...
[03:58] <tritium> _native_, probably a good choice.  majoring in X.org is probably too narrow a focus
[03:58] <logical_mark> dooglus: I doubt that is a long term solution.
[03:58] <cius> I've been wondering exactly what sort of advantage moving ot a modular xorg would have...
[03:58] <Broam> matt247234: RADEON: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found <-- this scares me
[03:59] <rev> where do i find the grub conf file
[03:59] <Trashcan> i have one of those too
[03:59] <Trashcan> :p
[03:59] <matt247234> broam: it shows up as two devices
[03:59] <dooglus> xiaogil: I used wget without specifying a user agent and it got my a 178Kb image file
[03:59] <Trashcan> is that a bad message?
[03:59] <matt247234> pci:1:0:0 and 1:0:1
[03:59] <Broam> matt247234: That might be because it does dual-mon or something?
[03:59] <_native_> ill have it working in a minute im just lazy and want the answer now! ;-] 
[03:59] <sonare> are there any package lists for breezy, online?
[03:59] <Broam> sonare:  packages.ubuntu.com/
[03:59] <LeeJunFan> anyone know of anyone working on a tiny ubuntu embedded? I'm looking to use ubuntu on outdoor wireless routers on a 128M Flash card.
[03:59] <dooglus> logical_mark: no, not really.  long term, you should stop using the mount point - close all programs that are using the CD - then "sudo eject"
[04:00] <Broam> matt247234: looks like your monitor will handle 1280x1024 at 72hz
[04:00] <dooglus> logical_mark: you can use the "fuser" command or "lsof" to see what's using it
[04:00] <kuraia> bye
[04:00] <dooglus> sonare: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[04:00] <matt247234> broam:yes, it should, but it doesn't and doesn't show up in the resolution changer
[04:00] <Broam> is there any way to filter the output of lsof? geeeez
[04:00] <badmacktuck> okay dokay
[04:00] <_native_> LeeJunFan, i dont know if i woulduse ubuntu for that.
[04:00] <dooglus> Broam: "lsof /media/cdrom"
[04:00] <badmacktuck> how do i play divx's
[04:00] <tritium> matt247234, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and try to enable more refresh rates
[04:00] <rev> i'm haveing trouble finding the grub conf file
[04:00] <badmacktuck> or any avi for that matter
[04:01] <Broam> Thanks dooglus
[04:01] <logical_mark> dooglus: new to linux. I only understand how to do sudo eject...
[04:01] <matt247234> tritium: just did that to get the conf
[04:01] <slide> Ok, so I am trying to setup tv-out on my box but whenever gnome starts nothing shows up at first, if i change the resolution my login screen shows up. The mouse can go off the rght side of the screen but its still on the monitor (just cant click anything but it still shows the same background and stuff), this is the guide i followed http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98456 This is my xorg.conf http://rafb.net/paste/results/68jSsd63.
[04:01] <slide> html and this is my Xorg.0.log http://rafb.net/paste/results/asBLj525.html
[04:01] <dooglus> Broam: and of course, you can pipe the output through grep, perl, or whatever your filter of choice happens to be
[04:01] <Broam> logical_mark: try lsof /media/cdrom like dooglus suggested
[04:01] <Broam> I'm learning so much.
[04:02] <Broam> I think Theodora should crash more often so I have an excuse to pop in here...I'm just kidding, honey.  No , I would never ruin your laptop to talk to these wonderful people
[04:02] <sonare> heh :)
[04:02] <dooglus> Broam: "lsof | grep cd" would probably do
[04:02] <sonare> laptops and linux :C
[04:02] <Broam> Yeah.
[04:02] <Broam> This thing is a total dog, too
[04:02] <Broam> Both batteries refuse to charge
[04:02] <dooglus> Broam: oh, except there's a lot of addresses there with "0xcd" in them.  so "grep cdrom" is better.
[04:02] <Brunellus> I've just enabled xcompmgr on my machine, and my gnome panels seem to have gone
[04:02] <Broam> yeah, good old hexadecimal
[04:02] <sonare> i cant wait to inherit my friends VAIO laptop. that will be so much fun with ubuntu
[04:03] <tritium> sonare, laptop support in ubuntu is quite good
[04:03] <Broam> I wonder if kill-all gnome panel will fix that
[04:03] <sonare> i know :D
[04:03] <alekz> how can i run 3dchess ? apt says is already installed but i cant found it :S
[04:03] <Broam> stupid general question
[04:03] <xiaogil> dooglus: i know... it works for me too now that I have added " "
[04:03] <dooglus> Broam: you'll need a hyphen in there I think.  gnome-panel
[04:03] <sonare> but damn vaio is worse thaan a winmodem
[04:03] <badmacktuck> i have a ton of .avi files, mostly divx and xvid, and i cant get any of them to play. does anyone have a player recommendation?
[04:03] <Broam> if people install programs and they don't install up in the menu
[04:03] <tritium> !restricted
[04:03] <ubotu> well, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[04:03] <dooglus> xiaogil: added what?  oh - you quoted the url?
[04:03] <Broam> is `apt-get install menu` the way to fix it?
[04:03] <xiaogil> dooglus: yes :)
[04:04] <xiaogil> dooglus: thanks for your help
[04:04] <tritium> alekz, dpkg -L <packagename> to list the files in the package
[04:04] <xiaogil> dooglus: did you quote it too ?
[04:04] <Broam> !info breezy menu
[04:04] <sonare> badmacktuck: totem will play them but i am sure you need either the codec or the linux equivalent of directshow
[04:04] <alekz> thanks tritium
[04:04] <badmacktuck> sonare, you know what the codecs called?
[04:04] <dooglus> xiaogil: the problem was the '&' in the URL.  if the shell sees a "&", it thinks that's the end of the command.
[04:04] <badmacktuck> sonare, i found a few but it still wont play
[04:04] <tritium> alekz, likely in a games directory not in your path
[04:05] <Broam> ubotu, tell Broam about yourself
[04:05] <dooglus> xiaogil: you could stick a '\' in front of the & instead of quoting the URL - that should work too
[04:05] <sonare> badmacktuck: http://www.xvid.org/
[04:05] <Broam> !info menu
[04:05] <ubotu> menu: (generates programs menu for all menu-aware applications), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 2.1.25 (breezy), Packaged size: 377 kB, Installed size: 1620 kB
[04:05] <sonare> badmacktuck: http://www.divx.com/divx/linux/
[04:06] <tritium> badmacktuck, read that URL from ubotu about restricted formats
[04:06] <Broam> alekz:  you can also install the "menu" package
[04:06] <tritium> Broam, but menu does not implement the freedesktop.org standard
[04:06] <Broam> It doesn't?
[04:06] <Broam> What does then
[04:07] <starscalling> arg
[04:07] <Broam> I dont' mind doing it the wrong way for myself, but I'd rather not steer others the wrong way
[04:07] <tritium> Broam, gnome and kde have implemented it, and most applications are including proper .desktop files, but not all have yet
[04:08] <Broam> Gotcha
[04:08] <Brunellus> what does it mean when the bonobo-activation server exits with error code 3?
[04:08] <Broam> !info bonobo
[04:08] <ubotu> bonobo: (The GNOME Bonobo System.), section gnome, is optional. Version: 1.0.22-2.3build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 150 kB, Installed size: 1300 kB
[04:08] <dooglus> Broam: a good hint is to get the 'debian' menu working - then even packages which don't install proper .desktop files appear in the menu, under 'debian'
[04:08] <Broam> That's informative
[04:08] <sonare> that restricted formats page is an eyeopener. tells me everything i needed to know. thanks ubuntu!
[04:09] <Broam> dooglus:  Do tell. :)
[04:09] <Broam> Wait, think I found it
[04:09] <dooglus> Broam: do you see 'debian' under 'applications'?
[04:09] <Broam> I don't , but I'm in the editor and it's greyed out
[04:10] <dooglus> Broam: install package "menu-xdg" and it should appear
[04:10] <dooglus> sonare: ubotu is a bot.
[04:10] <dooglus> sonare: so there's not much point thanking it :)
[04:10] <Broam> Bingo.  Thanks dooglus
[04:11] <dooglus> Broam: obscure, eh?
[04:11] <Broam> Yes.  Ubotu was not programmed to understand gratitude
[04:11] <Broam> dooglus: I have my share of obscure trivia
[04:11] <dooglus> Broam: the funny thing is, I recently installed breezy onto a different PC from scratch and the debian menu was enabled out the box.
[04:11] <Broam> Freaky
[04:11] <max> hello everybody
[04:11] <Broam> hi max
[04:11] <dooglus> Broam: that's what prompted me to go and hunt down how to enable it for my own PC
[04:11] <bob832> hello max
[04:11] <Broam> dooglus: Aha.
[04:12] <Broam> dooglus: I once had beep media player start up with a stream as a command argument and saw the debian skin instead of the ubuntu one
[04:12] <Broam> dooglus: Sometimes the paint's a little thin. :)
[04:12] <dooglus> Broam: indeed.  it's still debian underneath the brown paint.
[04:13] <Gunblade> I am denied access from a folder whats an easy way so I can write to it ?
[04:13] <xiaogil> dooglus: for me, the image can only be watched with evince (pdf), do you know how to watch it with any picture application ?
[04:13] <ULffuntu> <wayne shorter<beep media player
[04:13] <dooglus> Broam: did you ever run debian?  I only ran it for a few hours, when I was a lot greener than I am now.  I don't have much of a basis for comparison
[04:13] <Broam> dooglus: I ran SuSE 9.1
[04:14] <dooglus> xiaogil: I'm too scared to open the image.  I suspect you're trying to hax0r my box0r
[04:14] <Broam> dooglus: That was a DOG.  It was KDE 3.2, before they started getting big on memory conservation
[04:14] <matatata> hej
[04:14] <Broam> dooglus: it was on a machine roughly equivalent to Theodora here (P2-400, 128mb ram)
[04:14] <dooglus> Broam: I'm mostly a mandrake refugee
[04:14] <Broam> hello matatata
[04:14] <xiaogil> dooglus: ?
[04:14] <matatata> hello
[04:14] <dooglus> xiaogil: never mind.
[04:14] <matatata> are you
[04:14] <Broam> dooglus: I ran a lot of OpenBSD and NetBSD too
[04:14] <matatata> Ubuntu fans??
[04:15] <outofsight> Question: How do I change my laptop's functional volume key to control front speaker instead of PCM?
[04:15] <matatata> how new is it??
[04:15] <Broam> Warty has been out since Oct 2004
[04:15] <Gunblade> I am denied access from a folder how do i get access?
[04:15] <triple5> hi folks
[04:15] <tritium> matatata, how new is what?
[04:15] <Broam> the current version is Breezy, October 2005
[04:15] <matatata> umbuntu
[04:15] <Broam> Gunblade:  which folder?
[04:15] <tritium> matatata, depends on which release you're asking about
[04:15] <matatata> when did unbuntu come
[04:15] <matatata> first
[04:15] <Broam> outofsight: I think there's a way to do it...you may need to fool with key bindings.
[04:16] <thoreauputic> Gunblade: depends which directory, and why
[04:16] <dooglus> xiaogil: according to 'file', it's a "DjVu Image file", whatever that is.  I'd just be happy that evince can open it if I was you...  :)
[04:16] <tritium> The first release was Oct. 2004
[04:16] <Broam> what is DjVu?
[04:16] <ULffuntu> like a pdf
[04:16] <Broam> say no more.  Thank you :)
[04:16] <outofsight> Broam, where are these key bindings?
[04:16] <dooglus> Broam: I've no idea.  that's what "file image" told me
[04:16] <Falstius> Broam: around here it is a strip club (or so I've been told)
[04:16] <matatata> i dont know anything about umbuntu is it mutch better then "linux"
[04:16] <Gunblade> well when installing a TS server in the tutorial they make you create  TSS user,and it creates a folder where my home is...I need to put the TS server in there but I can not write to it
[04:16] <xiaogil> dooglus: but i need to re-use it, it's amazing that Gimp can't open it
[04:16] <dooglus> Falstius: that's not a good name for a strip club.  doesn't it mean "i've seen it all before" or something?
[04:16] <Broam> outofsight:  Not sure.  I'm not sure how your laptop handles the volume control--does it send it the command to the OS or the BIOS?  That I can't answer.  What brand is your laptop?
[04:17] <Broam> dooglus: I've seen this before and I'm living it again or sometsuch
[04:17] <dooglus> xiaogil: you can open it in evince and then take a screenshot with the PrtSc key
[04:17] <Broam> Gunblade:  Try using `sudo -i`
[04:17] <dooglus> Broam: you and me both.
[04:17] <matatata> linux is an older verion of umbuntu now?=??
[04:17] <Broam> matatata:  Ubuntu is a version of Linux
[04:17] <jonathon> hello im trying to make my linux look cool and was wondering if anyone knew how to change the background that comes up when the gnome splash is loading/
[04:17] <B_166-ER-X> how do i ignore someone under Xchat 2.6.0 ?
[04:17] <dooglus> Broam: this reminds me very much of another night spent putting off packing for a flight in the morning :)
[04:17] <skple> can someone tell me why the 'configure' button is greyed out on my network ptroperties panel?
[04:17] <triple5> So, I have a problem: my usbmount doesn't work and I plug in usb stick or mobile phone without it coming up on the  screen
[04:17] <outofsight> Broam, it's an ASUS, I think it worked before when I had initially installed breezy but stopped when I updated the kernel
[04:17] <Falstius> the french translates literally as "already seen"
[04:17] <matatata> so if i want to get linux i go for unbunt
[04:18] <triple5> I have tried lsmod
[04:18] <Broam> matatata: Yes.  There are many different kinds of Linux, but Ubuntu is regarded as one of the best
[04:18] <Gunblade> Broan: and then what?
[04:18] <Broam> triple5:  can you use the HAL to verify that the OS is seeing it?
[04:18] <matatata> IS IT going to be problems with my GAMES if i get umbuntu????
[04:18] <dooglus> matatata: linux is the name of the kernel.  ubuntu is a distribution which uses the linux kernel.  this room is full of ubuntu lovers, so we'll tell you to use ubuntu.  other channels will tell you to use their favourite distribution.
[04:18] <Broam> Gunblade:  When you are root you can do anything, so you can go into that folder and place things in there.  Be careful though
[04:18] <skple> can someone tell me why the 'configure' button is greyed out on my network ptroperties panel?
[04:19] <tritium> matatata, it is spelled "ubuntu"
[04:19] <Gunblade> I am still denied...
[04:19] <triple5> Broam: how to use HAL?
[04:19] <dooglus> matatata: of course, we're right and the others are all wrong.  don't listen to them,.
[04:19] <Broam> triple5:  hold please
[04:19] <xiaogil> dooglus: unfortunately, the picture is bigger than my screen
[04:19] <ULffuntu> jonathon: http://www.gnome-look.org/
[04:19] <Glossary> how can i make people TELnet to my IP address??
[04:19] <Broam> triple5:  System -> Administration -> device manager
[04:19] <cyphase> Glossary, you probably need to open your firewall
[04:19] <Madpilot> matatata: that depends on which games you're talking about - regular Windows games won't run without using other applications to emulate Windows...
[04:19] <Gunblade> Error while moving items to "/home/tss". is what I get when trying to drag the folder to it
[04:19] <Glossary> cyphase, i dont have any firewall
[04:20] <cyphase> Glossary, router?
[04:20] <tritium> Glossary, ssh would be more secure
[04:20] <Glossary> cyphase,  nop.
[04:20] <cyphase> so your computer connects straight to the net?
[04:20] <dooglus> xiaogil: are you sure?  it's only about 500 pixels high, and less wide.
[04:20] <cyphase> as in..
[04:20] <Glossary> ssh dont work either
[04:20] <Broam> Gunblade: You may want to chmod that directory so that you can write to it
[04:20] <matatata> but can i get an emulation of windows and then run all GAMES
[04:20] <dooglus> xiaogil: zoom to "100%"
[04:20] <Broam> matatata: Yes
[04:20] <cyphase> card in computer -> wall plug kind of thing?
[04:20] <tritium> Glossary, you need to install the server
[04:20] <skple> can someone tell me why the 'configure' button is greyed out on my network ptroperties panel?
[04:20] <Broam> skple: What sort of network card you got in that thing?
[04:20] <xiaogil> dooglus: i'll loose all the quality of the image
[04:20] <Glossary> tritium, what server and how?:S
[04:20] <dooglus> skple: did you run it as root?
[04:20] <cyphase> Is Ubuntu going to support per user application installation?
[04:20] <dooglus> xiaogil: zooming to 100% loses qualityy?
[04:20] <jonathon> i know how to change my background but there seems to be another background imagine that is loading up between login and my actual gnome desktop
[04:20] <tritium> Glossary, openssh-server (or just ssh)
[04:20] <xiaogil> dooglus: and i'll need to do that with many images
[04:20] <matatata> all NEW GAMES then to they work with unbunto or only some????????
[04:20] <Broam> skple:  you also can't edit the "lo" interface
[04:21] <qwerrttyy> Does anyone know why gaim keeps disconnecting after a while? My friend has this problem on Windows, too.
[04:21] <Glossary> tritium, what do i search for in apt-cache search ?
[04:21] <Broam> matatata: You will need to use a product called CEDEGA to play Windows games in Ubuntu
[04:21] <xiaogil> dooglus: they're should be a command to get this image
[04:21] <cyphase> qwerrttyy, which IM system?
[04:21] <matatata> UBUNTU
[04:21] <cyphase> network*
[04:21] <Madpilot> matatata: that's going to depend on which games you're interested in...
[04:21] <tritium> Glossary, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[04:21] <skple> broam: thank you
[04:21] <Falstius> Glossary: apt-get openssh-server
[04:21] <xiaogil> dooglus: in a clean way
[04:21] <qwerrttyy> cyphase, AIM
[04:21] <cyphase> AIM has been having problems lately i've heard
[04:21] <matatata> like FEAR AOE 3 m.m
[04:21] <cyphase> not with Gaim
[04:21] <Broam> skple: the 'lo' interface is local loopback, it's used for certain programs.  You need another interface such as 'eth0' to connect to the internet
[04:21] <cyphase> the network itself
[04:21] <triple5> Broam: I have the device there... USB
[04:21] <dooglus> xiaogil: did you check out the 'djvulibre-bin' package?  I've not, but maybe that can convert it to something more common
[04:21] <matatata> call of du  2
[04:22] <cyphase> you couldn't add the "ty"?
[04:22] <cyphase> :)
[04:22] <Broam> triple:  what is the device exactly?  (I have a LG-VX6100 and I can get it to be seen and picked up as a network interface of all things!)
[04:22] <Gunblade> how do you CHMOD a directory?
[04:22] <matatata> cant umbuntu uppgrade so all games Working[04:22] <Glossary> ok Done, now what?
[04:22] <Broam> gunblade:  This is dangerous stuff...
[04:22] <dooglus> Gunblade: "chmod <mode> <directory>"
[04:22] <th3flawl3ss1> i have a quick question guys
[04:22] <cyphase> Gunblade, same way you do it wiht a file
[04:22] <sethk> Gunblade, same way you chmod a file
[04:22] <cyphase> with*
[04:22] <tritium> matatata, it's not as simple as you suggest
[04:22] <Broam> Gunblade: what the "mode" is..you may need to read some manual pages
[04:22] <sethk> Gunblade, in UNIX things work consistently
[04:23] <Madpilot> matatata: like I said, that depends on the game - I'd search google if I were you
[04:23] <dooglus> Gunblade: "man chmod" for the man page
[04:23] <triple5> Broam: it is a little USB mass storage stick 512MB
[04:23] <sethk> Gunblade, for a directory x means searchable rather than executable
[04:23] <xiaogil> dooglus: i'll try it right now
[04:23] <Broam> triple5:  You may just need to mount it
[04:23] <Broam> triple5:  do me a favor.  Open up a text terminal
[04:23] <triple5> can't see where, it did it once or twice, but
[04:23] <cyphase> Is Ubuntu going to support per user application installation? Meaning, a user can intstall an application in their home directory without admin rights, using a package manager
[04:23] <sonare> i understand that winmodems are difficult to get working in linux. however, device manager recognises the chipset etc, but there is nothing under /dev/modem or any of the /dev/pci* entries. Is it best I just buy a new, non-win based modem?
[04:23] <triple5> Broam done the text terminal
[04:23] <Broam> triple5:  type 'dmesg | less' and scroll to the bottom
[04:24] <dooglus> sethk: I'm not sure.  'x' lets you into the directory, but doesn't let you list its contents
[04:24] <Broam> you want to write world (what is that, 775)?
[04:24] <triple5> usb-storage: device scan complete
[04:24] <matatata> i like consept of Umbuntu..... but i dont change to it if not all Programs/games are working,, maybe i get it on my next computer but then i need  to emulate windows in umbuntu ,, WEel seeeeeee
[04:24] <th3flawl3ss1> im new to linux and need help getting this program installed. http://www.teamxlink.co.uk im not even sure which version to run with ubuntu
[04:24] <Broam> triple5:  did it say anything about mounting it?
[04:24] <dooglus> Broam: 777.  but "o+w" is easier to think of
[04:24] <Broam> triple5:  if not, hit 'q' to quit less
[04:25] <sonare> cyphase: you can bar users from executing certain programs
[04:25] <cyphase> Who's having problems with the nVidia driver in Ubuntu?
[04:25] <Glossary> How can i create different Directories with Different passwords for different users??
[04:25] <Broam> triple5:  and type 'mount' with no arguments
[04:25] <thoreauputic> sonare: probably - have you looked at http://linmodems.org ? Some winmodems can be made to work
[04:25] <cyphase> sonare, what's that got to do with it?
[04:25] <sethk> dooglus, a+rwx (all read/write/execute) is the same as 777
[04:25] <Broam> triple5:  If you want to paste that output, join the #flood channel here and I'll be there
[04:25] <sethk> dooglus, don't use numbers, that's the mark of an amateur
[04:25] <triple5> okay
[04:25] <Broam> sethk: or a BSD junkie
[04:25] <sonare> cyphase: i think it would be a bad idea because of dependencies on the whole system
[04:25] <cyphase> sonare, i mean users should be able to install applications in their home directory without admin rights
[04:26] <cyphase> what do you mean?
[04:26] <sethk> Broam, no, the symbols have been available in BSD since 1971
[04:26] <Falstius> Glossary: use the "adduser" command and "passwd" you can look up the details online.  You might want to read a basic linux admin tutorial.
[04:26] <cyphase> they could have whatever dependencies in their home folder
[04:26] <matatata>  i like consept of Umbuntu..... but i dont change to it if not all Programs/games are working,, maybe i get it on my next computer but then i need  to emulate windows in umbuntu ,, WEel seeeeeee /// please here my problem and  konsult with your Linux creators =) =) =)
[04:26] <cyphase> like a miniture of the system-wide package manager
[04:26] <matatata> heheh
[04:26] <cyphase> miniature*
[04:26] <cyphase> with some changes to account for the circumstances
[04:26] <sethk> matatata, no distribution, o/s, whatever, has "all" of anything
[04:26] <tritium> yeah, we saw already, matatata.  Tell that to the makers of your windows games/programs...
[04:27] <xiaogil> dooglus: djvuextract should do the job, but nothing happens when i execute : djvuextract "/home/gilles/GetImage_FileName.jsp?filename=R024974ccwa&type=3"
[04:27] <matatata> but i like linux more
[04:27] <matatata> but i dont know anything of it yet
[04:27] <petrucchio> quit
[04:28] <cyphase> :)
[04:28] <Madpilot> matatata: Linux isn't just a different version of Windows, it's a totally different system, so Windows programs can't run in Linux... and the emulators aren't perfect and can't do some things either...
[04:28] <tritium> there's no time like the present to start learning, matatata
[04:28] <cyphase> *yea right*
[04:28] <sonare> cyphase: i think you have a good idea there but i think the security problem will overshadow things
[04:28] <cyphase> what security problems?
[04:28] <matatata> thanks MADPILOT
[04:28] <sonare> you can already install software (as an admin) that wipes the whole disk
[04:28] <Falstius>  cyphase, it won't happen because linux programers tend to keep platform compatibility in mind ;)
[04:28] <cyphase> yea..
[04:29] <cyphase> Falstius, i know
[04:29] <cyphase> but we need an open source MMORPG
[04:29] <cyphase> that works in linux
[04:29] <cyphase> to draw more people in
[04:29] <cyphase> ;)
[04:29] <tritium> !enter
[04:29] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[04:29] <Falstius> Nethack.
[04:29] <matt247234> tritium:have any other ideas for my monitor, i ran that configure thing a few more times and got the same results each time; i don't know if it changes anything, but it is connected on dvi
[04:29] <matatata> what is the best thing with unbunto if you compare to older VERIONS
[04:29] <sonare> nethack is brilliant
[04:29] <cyphase> yea..
[04:29] <tritium> matt247234, not really, sorry
[04:30] <sethk> matatata, the strange questions on IRC
[04:30] <Hmmmm> hi guys, i need to write some documentaiton. i was wondering if someone could suggest a good tool for doing that
[04:30] <Broam> BAH I gotta go
[04:30] <Madpilot> sethk: :D
[04:30] <Broam> the girlfriend needs picked up
[04:30] <Broam> BBL
[04:30] <tritium> Hmmmm, LaTeX
[04:30] <dooglus> sonare: did you try "crawl"?
[04:30] <sonare> and nethack is funny, unlike the terrible wish-fullfillment most mmorpgs devolve into
[04:30] <cyphase> lol
[04:30] <icerabbit> I'm happy to say that I am now connected to IRC from within X!
[04:30] <cyphase> unfourtanetly..
[04:30] <Hmmmm> tritium, unfortunately i don't know tex
[04:30] <Broam-Away> wOOOOOOOOOOOOOo
[04:30] <cyphase> people won't move to linux just because nethack works on it
[04:30] <Hmmmm> i was hoping to use some sorta simple gui with templates
[04:31] <cyphase> now, WoW..
[04:31] <sonare> hello i am a hott dark-elf with a big sword
[04:31] <Hmmmm> something for gnome
[04:31] <cyphase> or Guild Wars
[04:31] <tritium> Hmmmm, it's worth learning, particularly for the beautiful typesetting of mathematics
[04:31] <cyphase> or something like that
[04:31] <sonare> half-life and alpha centauri is everything anyone should need
[04:31] <cyphase> sonare, what security problems were you talking about?
[04:31] <Hmmmm> tritium, yesi do wana learn tex, i have fixed an appointment for that lesson for my physics professor
[04:31] <matatata> DO you think the developers gonna do games to all SYSTEMS like Linux in future
[04:31] <Hmmmm> but right nowi need to get this done quick n a lil dirty
[04:31] <tritium> Hmmmm, excellent
[04:31] <slashx1896> Hey all
[04:32] <triple5> hey
[04:32] <icerabbit> Apparently all i had to do was run fglrxconfig after "aptituded install xorg-driver-fglrx"!
[04:32] <agave911> hi all
[04:32] <triple5> I still have  a problme with the usb storage
[04:32] <sonare> cypase: there is no way to tell the effects of a program you download from the internet until you run it
[04:32] <tritium> icerabbit, isn't that on the wiki page?
[04:32] <icerabbit> thank you for the help
[04:32] <triple5> no mounting, no automounting...
[04:32] <icerabbit> yes
[04:32] <cyphase> sonare, the programs will be from the repositories..
[04:32] <matatata> final QUEStion:....
[04:32] <sonare> non-admin installs is why windows is full of spyware etc
[04:32] <agave911> i am trying to install breezyx86 on a amd64
[04:33] <cyphase> sonare, i think you're misunderstanding me
[04:33] <sonare> cyphase you have a good idea there
[04:33] <matatata> WHY SHOLD I CHANGE TO LINUX  (if not securety)
[04:33] <theblue_> Hi all.
[04:33] <sonare> i did :)
[04:33] <jonathon> please help my gnome is ugly
[04:33] <cyphase> lol
[04:33] <cyphase> i mean..
[04:33] <agave911> but am havig trouble on the second fase of the installation
[04:33] <cyphase> i can get a tar ball of any program
[04:33] <icerabbit> I have learned to successfully use wikis! a turning point in my linuxc life!
[04:33] <cyphase> and extract it to my home directory
[04:33] <cyphase> and run it..
[04:33] <agave911> i get a kernel panic error-code 12
[04:34] <slashx1896> GnomeMeeting is saying No Device Found for my cam when its clearly plugged in, can someone help?
[04:34] <cyphase> but a package manager is better for obvious reasons
[04:34] <matatata> .....
[04:34] <matatata> please someone answer
[04:34] <dooglus> matatata: it's more stable.  you're more in control.  and you'll learn a whole bunch of stuff.
[04:34] <Falstius> matatata: it is easier to use then windows.
[04:34] <tritium> slashx1896, is it a supported cam, and is its driver loaded?
[04:34] <sonare> matatata: its  ok to use just dont expect to be able to put just any old program on there. nor is some hardware supported because manufacturers are horrible idiots that dont care about users
[04:34] <slashx1896> its a logitech cam and i dont think the driver is loaded
[04:34] <Madpilot> matatata: no viruses, no spyware, none of that crap. and no need to run antivirus, antispyware and the rest of *that* crap...
[04:34] <tritium> slashx1896, you'd need it to be
[04:34] <cyphase> yea!
[04:35] <cyphase> :D
[04:35] <slashx1896> tritium: how
[04:35] <agave911> has any one installed x86linux on amd64 ?
[04:35] <matatata> so you dont have antivirus???
[04:35] <tritium> slashx1896, sudo modprobe <modulename>
[04:35] <slashx1896> srry brb
[04:35] <cyphase> matatata, no anti anything needed
[04:35] <cyphase> :)
[04:35] <Falstius> agave911: I'm running 86_64 on AMD64 ...
[04:35] <matatata> dont you have antivirus on your computer
[04:35] <cyphase> me? no
[04:35] <cyphase> i have a firewall..
[04:35] <cyphase> but no anti virus
[04:36] <matatata> you only need firewall=???
[04:36] <thoreauputic> matatata: no linux viruses in the wild
[04:36] <cyphase> you don't even need that
[04:36] <cyphase> if you have a hardware firewall
[04:36] <Falstius> thoreauputic: that's not true (atleast according to the news)
[04:36] <cyphase> but i have a firewall because i like to play with software
[04:36] <tag> LINUX IS A VIRUS
[04:36] <cyphase> lol
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[04:36] <cyphase> ;)
[04:36] <thoreauputic> Falstius: oh? link?
[04:36] <agave911> Falstius: how did you manage?
[04:36] <matatata> only Linuxhackers is i am affraid of if i get linux?????
[04:36] <cyphase> WINDOWS*
[04:37] <agave911> Falstius: is there a parameter?
[04:37] <cyphase> matatata, a hardware firewall will protect you
[04:37] <Falstius> agave911: for most things it is sweet .. some problems with binary codecs (no flash) but you can do a chroot for all of that if you like.
[04:37] <cyphase> and you might as well get a software firewall
[04:37] <cyphase> like Firestarter
[04:37] <thoreauputic> Falstius: I'd be interested to know if there is a virus in the wild - that would be a first
[04:37] <xiaogil> dooglus: are you still there ?
[04:38] <matatata> but you dont need to be a hacker to get LINUX like i am only an middle-nob-Now more then family-guy
[04:38] <thoreauputic> Falstius: where did you read that about viruses for linux ?
[04:38] <agave911> Falstius: do you run breezy i486 on the amd64
[04:38] <Falstius> thoreauputic: http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2001/09/18/insecurities.html
[04:38] <cyphase> matatata, Linux isn't for hackers only :)
[04:38] <Falstius> thoreauputic: I read about it on slashdot a while back.
[04:38] <thoreauputic> Falstius: OK thanks - looking now
[04:38] <agave911> i already have breezy-amd64 installed, but need something more stable
[04:38] <Falstius> agave911: I run 64bit breezy, I haven't tried the 32bit.
[04:38] <agave911> Falstius: ok
[04:38] <matatata> i have 1000000 questions for you  linux guys out there
[04:39] <slashx1896> tritium: what u mean my module name?
[04:39] <cyphase> go ahead
[04:39] <tritium> slashx1896, the name of the module for your webcam
[04:39] <slashx1896> all i know about it that it is logitech..
[04:39] <Madpilot> matatata: Ubuntu is specifically aimed at non-hackers... it's designed to be usable by anyone
[04:39] <Falstius> agave911: I haven't had stability problems except for totem .. but I had problems with that in 32bit too.
[04:39] <matatata> hoe demanding is it on hardware if you compare with Windows XP
[04:39] <dooglus> xiaogil: yes.
[04:39] <cyphase> less demanding
[04:39] <matt247234> can anyone help me with my monitor?  i just found out that it does 75Hz on d-sub, but somehow only 60 on dvi (xorg.conf: http://pastebin.ca/32604)
[04:39] <cyphase> i've heard some cases where it's more
[04:39] <dooglus> xiaogil: I extracted the .IFF content, using: djvuextract ./image.djvu BG44=image.iff
[04:39] <matatata> i have 512 RAM
[04:39] <cyphase> but most i've heard say it's faster
[04:40] <agave911> Falstius: Gnome crashes sometimes, it is anoying
[04:40] <thoreauputic> Falstius: umm - that looks to be a trojan, and the by-line was 2001 (*very* old news
[04:40] <dooglus> xiaogil: run "djvudump <file>" to get the name "BG44" to use
[04:40] <dooglus> xiaogil: but then - The Gimp doesn't want to open the .iff file anyway...
[04:40] <matatata> if i get  UBUNTO can i have it in a network and send  files betwin one with XP
[04:40] <Falstius> thoreauputic: I didn't say there were many of them ;)  Just you can't say "none"
[04:40] <Madpilot> matatata: with 512 you should be fine, Ubuntu will probably run at least as fast as XP, probably faster
[04:40] <tritium> thoreauputic, there was a rather nasty vulnerability in apache recently
[04:40] <sonare> agave mostly that is just nautilus, but it is gettign better all the time
[04:40] <cyphase> matatata, yes
[04:40] <xiaogil> dooglus: I tried the command : djvuextract "/home/gilles/GetImage_FileName.jsp?filename=R024974ccwa&type=3" BG44=myimage which returnsa file which has the same size a the image but that is readable by nothing
[04:41] <slashx1896> tritium, all i know about my logitech is the make of it, where do i find the module i have to type
[04:41] <matatata> caz i going to buy a new  computer
[04:41] <thoreauputic> tritium: I didn't say there were no vulnerabilities
[04:41] <sonare> matatata U-B-U-N-T-U >:D
[04:41] <matatata> heheh
[04:41] <dooglus> xiaogil: me too...  we now need to work out how to use .iff files...
[04:41] <thoreauputic> tritium: I was only referring to viruses
[04:41] <matt247234> anyone?
[04:41] <tritium> slashx1896, first find out if the hardware is supported at all (ask uncle google, for staters)
[04:41] <cyphase> tritium, a virus is a program
[04:41] <Falstius> agave: airen@box:~/.wine$ uptime
[04:41] <Falstius>  22:43:52 up 7 days,  2:15,  2 users,  load average: 0.01, 0.04, 0.00
[04:41] <matatata> how demanding is the  Emulator of windows  if i want to play games i need to lower my graficks then`???????
[04:42] <cyphase> a hacker is a quick thinking person who can adapt to the situation quickly
[04:42] <xiaogil> dooglus: why did you name it .tiff, it seems the result is exactly the same when naming it .jpg
[04:42] <cyphase> hackers are harder to prevent then viruses
[04:42] <slashx1896> lol, so find out if my logitech cam is supported to linux?
[04:42] <sonare> matatata: it is not an emulator
[04:42] <tritium> cyphase, heh, thanks for that info
[04:42] <_jason> cyphase, so he has to be quick then? :P
[04:42] <matatata> what is it=??
[04:42] <logical_mark> Hey, I downloaded the Bianary for BOINC and now I need to know how to install it
[04:42] <cyphase> _jason, yes
[04:42] <thoreauputic> cyphase: hacker != cracker
[04:42] <cyphase> i know
[04:42] <sonare> matatata: it uses the windows libraries but does not slow down because there is no OS-on-OS barrier
[04:42] <dooglus> xiaogil: it's in .iff format...
[04:43] <matatata> if not games  work  when i have umbunto how to play windows-games
[04:43] <dooglus> xiaogil: run "file" on it to see that.
[04:43] <dooglus> xiaogil: Useful conversion programs: iff2pgm, pgm2iff, iff2ps, convert_format (in nelson's bin)
[04:43] <cyphase> i say hacker sometimes still
[04:43] <sonare> matatata: wine can even be faster on ubuntu than on windows itself!
[04:43] <cyphase> lol
[04:43] <broam> I'm baaaaaaaaaaaack
[04:43] <linux_newb> anyone here use gyach enhanced?
[04:43] <xiaogil> dooglus: you know so much...
[04:43] <broam> triple5:  you get taken care of?
[04:43] <matatata> so the libary is ALWAYS inside umbunto and dont need an Procces to play windows-games???
[04:44] <sonare> yep
[04:44] <logical_mark> cyphase: if there is already an expliot in EVERY computer in the world running windows, or EVERY router that runs important backbones, then I would argue that a quickly executed virus would be more damging than a hacker executing the attack himself...
[04:44] <matatata> so.....
[04:44] <cyphase> yea..
[04:44] <dooglus> xiaogil: I don't know anything about this, but I know how to google...
[04:44] <cyphase> but we're talking about linux
[04:44] <matatata> if i have umbunto and windows libary and play a game.... SAME performence???????????
[04:44] <cyphase> and not every computer in the world, of any os, has the same vulnerability
[04:44] <dooglus> xiaogil: the problem is, I can't find iff2pgm.  The Gimp can almost certainly open pgm files, so that's all we'd need
[04:45] <cyphase> and i'm talking about one network
[04:45] <sonare> matatata: not -all- games ever created in the history of windows work yet (wine is a work in progress) but if you have a problem just set aside a partition for windows and use that for games!
[04:45] <cyphase> a virus versus a hacker
[04:45] <cyphase> a hacker is faster
[04:45] <cyphase> cracker*
[04:45] <sonare> matatata: same performance
[04:45] <tritium> don't forget to define virus, cyphase
[04:45] <matatata> partition for windows.........
[04:45] <sonare> a partition on your disk.
[04:45] <thoreauputic> matatata: and it's spelled U-B-U-N-T-U  :)
[04:45] <th3flawl3ss1> anybody got a minute to help a noob?
[04:46] <broam> I do!  I do!
[04:46] <matatata> UBUNTo yes yes
[04:46] <broam> Pick me!  Pick me!
[04:46] <cyphase> lol
[04:46] <tritium> matatata, almost ;)
[04:46] <th3flawl3ss1> lol
[04:46] <matatata> U
[04:46] <dooglus> xiaogil: a google search for "iff2pgm" only returns 2 hits - neither offers a copy of the program.
[04:46] <cyphase> Uuntu
[04:46] <cyphase> oops
[04:46] <bimberi> thoreauputic: thanks, that was annoying me too :P
[04:46] <sonare> what is all this Umberto rubbish about anyway????????? is it like apple mac??????????
[04:46] <cyphase> pressed Insert
[04:46] <cyphase> Ubuntu*
[04:46] <th3flawl3ss1> i have 2 problems here, just installed the 64 bit version and cant write to my external HDD
[04:46] <thoreauputic> bimberi: heheh :)
[04:46] <th3flawl3ss1> its read only
[04:46] <sonare> hehe
[04:46] <broam> th3flawl3ss1: You will need to remount it read-write
[04:46] <broam> th3flawl3ss1: of course, your next question is "how"?
[04:47] <matatata> here in sweden its easier to say umbunto its coming along when i writing
[04:47] <th3flawl3ss1> lol
[04:47] <cyphase> th3flawl3ss1, what format is it/
[04:47] <broam> I was walking triple5 through this but the girlfriend needed a ride home
[04:47] <cyphase> ?*
[04:47] <th3flawl3ss1> not sure... i think fat32
[04:47] <cyphase> ok
[04:47] <dooglus> xiaogil: http://freshmeat.net/projects/gimpiffplugin/ looks promising
[04:47] <matatata> well
[04:47] <broam> vfat!  let's hear it for vfat! :P
[04:47] <cyphase> because linux doesn't do NTFS well
[04:47] <xiaogil> dooglus: what about netpbm ?
[04:47] <matatata> i dont wont virus
[04:47] <cyphase> so if it's NTFS, that's why
[04:47] <bungle> How do I set up my 15" lcd screen in xorg conf
[04:47] <cyphase> matatata, don't worry
[04:47] <dooglus> xiaogil: does that do IFF?  if so, why not...
[04:47] <cyphase> your safe :)
[04:48] <th3flawl3ss1> ok, im guessin i right click and go to properties to find out for sure
[04:48] <ordinary> SOMEONE update me on the REPOSITORY changes!  I get a 404 not found with SYNAPTIC!
[04:48] <Ishotweb> hmm so i'm still trying to learn the linux filesystem... a tutorial tells me to look in .wine/drive_c/windows/system , can someone tell me where that is?
[04:48] <cyphase> ordinary, no changes
[04:48] <cyphase> i get all my updates right
[04:48] <sonare> ooh i have a question: how easy is it to plug-and-play? will Umberto (oh god now I'm doing it too!) detect the change in hardware and load/unload the right drivers on startup?
[04:48] <Falstius> th3flawl3ss1: the easoest way is to type "mount" at a command prompt.
[04:48] <Ishotweb> i suppose i should go read something on basic terminal commands so i'm not completely illiterate
[04:48] <dooglus> xiaogil: netpbm seems to handle TIFF but not IFF
[04:48] <tritium> Ishotweb, under your home dir
[04:48] <broam> th3flawl3ss1: If you want to paste your mount output, join #flood
[04:48] <matatata> but if i had a windows partision dosent it means holes for viruses m.m??????????
[04:48] <thoreauputic> Ishotweb: it's a hideen (dot) directory in your home directory
[04:48] <triple5> I have tried lsmod, all modules seem to be in place, but I don't have ehci_hcd
[04:48] <ordinary> ERROR "W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[04:48] <ordinary> "
[04:49] <Madpilot> sonare: depends what the hardware is - stuff like digital cameras and printers usually "just work"
[04:49] <broam> triple5: you're alive!
[04:49] <triple5> instead I have uhci_hcd
[04:49] <cyphase> ordinary, i *just* did an apt-get update
[04:49] <cyphase> 100%
[04:49] <broam> triple5: ehci and uhci are just different speeds I think
[04:49] <sonare> matatata: only if you install stuff from the internet using windows.
[04:49] <cyphase> ordinary, that's not a 404
[04:49] <Michael> Can someone tell me how to make a windows harddrive readable? (already mounted)
[04:49] <cyphase> ordinary, add sudo to the beginning if your not root
[04:49] <thoreauputic> ordinary: wait a while and try again
[04:49] <broam> Looks like we're holding a session to mount hard disks!
[04:49] <Ishotweb> tritium and thoreauputic: ahhh thanks.. didn't think about hidden files
[04:49] <janopotter> what is of chanel in spanich
[04:49] <th3flawl3ss1> lol
[04:49] <tritium> !your
[04:49] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, your is "your" is possessive, "you're" is a contraction meaning "you are"
[04:50] <broam> I almost wish we were doing this 2 weeks ago when I spent 2 hours trying to do this
[04:50] <matatata> add sonare ///friends list of KNOWLAGE
[04:50] <janopotter> what is the chanel in spanich
[04:50] <thoreauputic> Ishotweb: a dot hides the file in *nix :)
[04:50] <tritium> !es
[04:50] <ordinary> the command is working, files are being downloaded :D
[04:50] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:50] <Madpilot> !es
[04:50] <cyphase> tritium, i know :)
[04:50] <triple5> okay different speeds, but which is the right one for USB 1
[04:50] <cyphase> but what the hell
[04:50] <cyphase> you're* :)
[04:50] <tritium> heh :)
[04:50] <janopotter> hola cual es el canal en espaol de ubuntu
[04:50] <broam> triple5:  Dunno.  Try uhci and see what you get
[04:50] <Ishotweb> thoreaputic : ah... that makes sense. so how do i find it if it's hidden?
[04:50] <sonare> Madpilot: I trust network cards and modems are relatively PnP? that is, for the ones with driver support in the kernel.
[04:50] <matatata> add cyoohase ///user =good to ask
[04:50] <tritium> !es janopotter
[04:50] <ubotu> tritium: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[04:50] <cyphase> how about me!
[04:50] <cyphase> ;)
[04:50] <broam> sonare: modems are often *not* PnP.  WinModems, and all
[04:50] <Ishotweb> err oops, misspelled thoreauputic
[04:50] <triple5> broam: what do you mean try uhci?
[04:51] <cyphase> matatata, cyphase* :)
[04:51] <Madpilot> sonare: Ubuntu detected my onboard network stuff just fine on install - likewise my onboard sound
[04:51] <sonare> broam: winmodems .... argh!
[04:51] <triple5> I have tried uhci, but this error message comes up,
[04:51] <thoreauputic> Ishotweb: either hit ctrl-H in nautilus or use  ls -al for instance
[04:51] <broam> triple5:  actually you should be ok.  It should ju
[04:51] <triple5> sense key: Unit Attention.
[04:51] <broam> triple5: ^W^W^W^W^W^W^W^W^W I'm in flood, paste away
[04:51] <janopotter> hola cual es el canal en espaol de ubuntu
[04:51] <tritium> !es
[04:51] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:51] <tritium> janopotter, ^^^
[04:51] <matatata> i going to install UMBUNTU i think on my next COMPUTER i going to buy after chrismus, YOU know WHY??????????+
[04:51] <janopotter> #ubuntues
[04:52] <thoreauputic> Ishotweb: for tricky nicks, try  e.g. thore <hit tab>  :)
[04:52] <sonare> Madpilot: i am thinking of putting in different hardware, post-install; not installing with the hardware
[04:52] <broam> si
[04:52] <tritium> matatata, um...hakuna matatata ?
[04:52] <frogzoo> broam: if theye winmodems - then no, if theye external serial modems - then yes
[04:52] <triple5> I am gone to flood
[04:52] <cyphase> matatata, you don't have to have a lot of question marks and capital letters
[04:52] <cyphase> for random words
[04:52] <xiaogil> dooglus: could it be iff ilbm images ?
[04:52] <cyphase> and it's Ubuntu*
[04:52] <Chris-C> Synaptic question: how do I tell whether a package listed came from the universe rep or the multiverse rep?  Without digging into properties ... Is there some way to make it visible in the list display?
[04:53] <sonare> cyphase: he is saying that to be silly i think.
[04:53] <Ishotweb> thoreauputic, ah that makes it easier. thanks for all the help. got it now
[04:53] <matatata> i think micrsoft is going to after a while BLOCK all pirate copies Somehow so that EVERYONE must PAY, and the ANTIVIRUS Progs ASAME!!!! (not good))
[04:53] <thoreauputic> Ishotweb: no worries :)
[04:53] <Madpilot> sonare: I haven't installed any hardware beyond hard drives since moving to Ubuntu, so I can't really tell you anything...
[04:53] <tritium> Chris-C, apt-cache policy <packagename> is one method
[04:53] <cyphase> matatata, please stop
[04:53] <cyphase> it's annoying
[04:53] <matatata> i DONT want to PAY
[04:53] <cyphase> don't capitalize every other word
[04:53] <thoreauputic> matatata: this is kind of off-topic you know
[04:53] <tritium> matatata, don't support piracy here, please
[04:53] <frogzoo> matatata: can't be done - there'll always be keygens
[04:53] <cyphase> LIKE this, BECAUSE it's ANNOYING
[04:54] <Chris-C> tritium, thanks but I meant in the synaptic list view
[04:54] <xiaogil> dooglus: netpbm doesn't work, thr image is not recognized by ilbmtopbm
[04:54] <bimberi> Chris-C: Settings -> Preferences -> Columns & Fonts, add the Component column
[04:54] <tag> How do I start a nested X server?  I thought I could do startx ~/.xinitrc -- Xnest :10
[04:54] <sonare> i dont like what matatata is doing to the discussion but i dont want to be nasty.
[04:54] <bimberi> Chris-C: or Section :)
[04:54] <Michael> Can I setup reading for a windows partition if it's been mounted?
[04:54] <matatata> ops what did i say....ehh
[04:54] <Chris-C> bimberi, awesome!
[04:54] <matatata> best i go..
[04:55] <thoreauputic> tag: you can use  gdmflexiserver --xnest   (IIRC)
[04:55] <matatata> bye
[04:55] <skple> EVERYONE GO SEE AEON FLUX
[04:55] <skple> it sucked.
[04:55] <tritium> matatata, you know what you said.  We don't support piracy here.
[04:55] <tag> X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[04:55] <sonare> good luck matatata !
[04:55] <sonare> skple: noooooooooooo
[04:55] <skple> hehe
[04:55] <cyphase> matatata, don't steal windows. just don't use it :)
[04:55] <sonare> oh peter chung what did you do???
[04:55] <skple> no kidding
[04:55] <thoreauputic> tag:  Xnest -ac -display :1  is another way I think
[04:55] <dooglus> xiaogil: you could try http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/XnView-Download-4612.html - that claims to be able to open and convert .IFF files...
[04:56] <matatata> thanks.... i dont suport piracy at all but everyone gots a piracy here and so it is
[04:56] <tritium> matatata, no, not everyone here pirates
[04:56] <matatata> all young atleast
[04:56] <sonare> linux is nothing to do with piracy
[04:56] <frogzoo> if you run ubuntu, its very difficult to not resent having to licence windows for games and nothing else
[04:56] <thoreauputic> erm..  Xnest -ac  :1
[04:57] <tritium> if you don't like commercial software, don't but it
[04:57] <matatata> i think its good caz its for free right??
[04:57] <cyphase> :D
[04:57] <frogzoo> not that Id condone running a warez xp just for your games - nope, would never do that
[04:57] <cyphase> we'll see a torrent of switchers
[04:57] <cyphase> frogzoo, of course not
[04:57] <cyphase> :)
[04:57] <hyphenated> cyphase: well, those clowns at id software seemed to do precisely that. did you go and buy doom3?
[04:57] <thoreauputic> OK all discussion of wareZ etc ---> #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:58] <cius> we need more open source games
[04:58] <cyphase> hyphenated, no, i didn't
[04:58] <matatata> any program you need to pay for in umbuntu???
[04:58] <hyphenated> and the other clowns that made unreal tournament etc, they did the same
[04:58] <tag> thoreauputic: Also startx -- /usr/bin/Xnest :12
[04:58] <cius> or more specifically, we need more open assets for the open source engines already out there.
[04:58] <dooglus> matatata: yes.  there's commercial software for ubuntu
[04:58] <xiaogil> dooglus: xnview can't read it too
[04:58] <thoreauputic> tag: aha :)
[04:58] <dooglus> xiaogil: then I'm sorry, but I give up!
[04:59] <janopotter> no ahi nadie en el canal #ubuntues
[04:59] <tritium> !es
[04:59] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:59] <xiaogil> dooglus: okay, thanks for your help!
[04:59] <cyphase> matatata, IBM just certified their very expensieve commercial database for ubuntu
[04:59] <cyphase> lol
[04:59] <matatata> but not the windows libary that you can play games with you need  to pay??
[04:59] <cyphase> no
[04:59] <cyphase> that's free
[04:59] <cyphase> wine anyway
[04:59] <dooglus> xiaogil: if you really care, the next step would be to delve into evince and see exactly how it's managing to open the image.  but that could get messy.
[04:59] <cyphase> if you get cedega..
[04:59] <cyphase> that costs
[04:59] <hyphenated> yeah, it's a whopping 5USD per month
[04:59] <varsendagger> thoreauputic, i am using chroot to run stuff on another linux distro, the other distro keeps crashing when i switch back to my ubuntu
[04:59] <hyphenated> that's like a burger a week
[04:59] <matatata> so i need umbuntu and Wine to play games?? anything more[04:59] <cius> heck just buy it once
[05:00] <dooglus> xiaogil: clearly there's some free software which can read the format, so your problem does have a solution.
[05:00] <Falstius> tritium, he is complaining there's no one in ubuntu-es
[05:00] <tritium> Falstius, he spelled the channel name wrong
[05:00] <cius> when you see the perfromance of cedega, you'll go back to your warez xp dual boot or just do without
[05:00] <cyphase> hyphenated, you need to chill
[05:00] <sonare> ha
[05:00] <thoreauputic> varsendagger: and why are you telling me this ? *grin*
[05:00] <xiaogil> dooglus: i'll have to find it, but i guess that won't be easy
[05:00] <Gunblade> Hey all I am just wondering how I can install some FTp software to run a FTP server on ubuntu...anything like Filezilla on windows?
[05:00] <mister_roboto> matata: if you like shooters, you have a good choice on linux
[05:00] <sonare> cius: 3rd party software, says it all
[05:00] <stinkydave> hi, is ssh2 installed by default in ubuntu, I am trying to connect to a debain server on my network and it isn't working
[05:01] <cyphase> stinkydave, no
[05:01] <varsendagger> you are talking about xnest iand i thought i might be able to do the chroot throught xnest
[05:01] <sethk> stinkydave, no, separate installl
[05:01] <tritium> stinkydave, not the server.  sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[05:01] <cyphase> you have to install it
[05:01] <sethk> stinkydave, but very easy
[05:01] <thoreauputic> Gunblade: you want a server or a client?
[05:01] <matatata> shooters???
[05:01] <cyphase> install ssh
[05:01] <Gunblade> server
[05:01] <Falstius> tritium: eh, you're right.  I was giving him the benefit of the doubt.
[05:01] <regeya> when I pop in and see something like a cedega diss, I'm just thinking 'um...huh.'
[05:01] <tritium> :)
[05:01] <mister_roboto> matatata: like quake, doom, unreal tourney
[05:01] <varsendagger> thoreauputic, what is the syntax for xnest
[05:01] <matatata> 1 person games
[05:01] <cius> anyone know of a project working on free quake 3 assets?
[05:02] <sethk> matatata, hey, this is a clean channel
[05:02] <thoreauputic> varsendagger: it depends - you can do  Xnest -ac :1 for example
[05:02] <tritium> janopotter, necesitas un "-" en el nombre del canal
[05:02] <stinkydave> I will try to install the openssh-server
[05:02] <regeya> I'm thinking that if you can't deal with not having MS Office and can't deal with the differences between MS Office and OpenOffic, you might need to invest in Windows and MS Office.
[05:02] <cyphase> maybe shuttleworth will give another 20 million(?) for an open source MMORPG
[05:02] <frogzoo> !sp
[05:02] <cyphase> ;)
[05:02] <matatata> clen channel???
[05:02] <ubotu> frogzoo: I give up, what is it?
[05:02] <frogzoo> !ep
[05:02] <ubotu> frogzoo: Are you smoking crack?
[05:02] <janopotter> thanks
[05:02] <thoreauputic> varsendagger: then you start things from the parent terminal with -display :1
[05:02] <Madpilot> matatata: Enemy Territory & Americas Army both have Linux-native versions...
[05:02] <regeya> wait...
[05:02] <regeya> cedega is WineX, isn't it
[05:02] <tritium> frogzoo, don't bother, I'm helping another person to get there
[05:03] <varsendagger> like xmms -display :1
[05:03] <broam> tritium: are you any good at helping people mount drives?  I am teh sux
[05:03] <matatata> when you install linux vesion you have the umbuntu version then
[05:03] <tritium> broam, who needs help?
[05:03] <matatata> on games=)))
[05:03] <mister_roboto> matatata:ubuntu is just one distribution of linux (linux operating system with other programs added)
[05:03] <Madpilot> matatata: yes - and it's Ubuntu, please...
[05:03] <frogzoo> regeya: both crossover office & cedega are wine derivatives
[05:03] <triple5> Me needs a little help in #flood
[05:03] <broam> tritium: triple5 and th3flawl3ss1
[05:04] <broam> tritium: they're in #flood because of mount paste
[05:04] <matatata> UbunTU
[05:04] <triple5> mounting and automounting
[05:04] <tritium> matatata, please don't mix lower and upper case
[05:04] <thoreauputic> varsendagger: you might like to run a window manager first :)
[05:04] <broam> tritium: I'm out of ideas
[05:04] <matatata> ....i always do everything wrong right
[05:04] <matatata> grrrr
[05:04] <sonare> i was wondering what is the support for USB dialup modems like?
[05:04] <cratuki> For some reason my ls order is different under ubuntu than on my debian stable host
[05:05] <thoreauputic> varsendagger:  gdmflexiserver --xnest is easier
[05:05] <cyphase> sonare, what support?
[05:05] <cratuki> Does anyone know what causes ls to order like that?
[05:05] <regeya> frogzoo, thank you for your insight.  I've owned licenses to both, thank you.
[05:05] <_jason> cratuki, how is it ordering? it should be alphabetic iirc
[05:05] <Gunblade> so what do I need to install to make a FTP server
[05:05] <varsendagger> ohh
[05:05] <mister_roboto> cratuki: you don't have it aliased, do you? like to provide some desired sort order?
[05:05] <regeya> ever since the name change, though, frogger, I occasionally get confused.  especially this time of year.  christmas is always busy for me.
[05:05] <cyphase> sonare, i'm just kidding. i have no idea
[05:05] <varsendagger> thoreauputic, thanks
[05:06] <regeya> frogger, frogzoo, who can tell?
[05:06] <matatata> "Ubuntu" is an ancient African word, meaning "humanity to others". Ubuntu also means "I am what I am because of who we all are". The Ubuntu Linux distribution brings the spirit of Ubuntu to the software world.// matatat
[05:06] <thoreauputic> Gunblade: there are quite a few ftp servers for linux - look in synaptic
[05:06] <cyphase> does anyone have a wireless card working nativly in linux?
[05:06] <cyphase> out of the box
[05:06] <mister_roboto> cyphase: yes
[05:06] <bimberi> cratuki: is ls aliased with some additional options? try "alias ls" to see
[05:06] <tritium> yes, cyphase
[05:06] <cyphase> *now* i get answers
[05:06] <cyphase> after i fixed mine
[05:06] <cyphase> :)
[05:06] <frogzoo> cyphase: my ipw2200 worked out of the box on 5.10
[05:06] <cratuki> thanks - it's not aliased
[05:06] <Gunblade> what is one with an interface, synaptic doesn't really give a huge description
[05:06] <cratuki> (still writing up what's wrong)
[05:07] <bimberi> cratuki: check on debain too :)
[05:07] <cyphase> mister_roboto, tritium, frogzoo, on a desktop
[05:07] <bimberi> *debian
[05:07] <matatata> how to DL unbuntu what do i need
[05:07] <thoreauputic> Gunblade: you can install pure-ftp with pureadmin
[05:07] <mister_roboto> cyphase: no, dell laptop
[05:07] <cyphase> i figured
[05:07] <cratuki> Thanks guys - must be a binary configuration, and seems to have also changed on my recent version of debian stable
[05:07] <frogzoo> cyphase: are you running breezy ? hoarys wireless support is patchy
[05:07] <tritium> cyphase, laptop
[05:07] <cyphase> frogzoo, of course :)
[05:07] <cratuki> (I'm sure it wasn't like that on woody - config must have changed)_
[05:07] <cratuki> I can fix by downloading the source.
[05:08] <tritium> matatata, is unbuntu the anti-ubuntu?
[05:08] <cratuki> (it's to do with the order files display in, whether underscores are counted as symbols or ignored)
[05:08] <thoreauputic> hmm  pure-ftpd actually
[05:08] <cyphase> I got a USB NIC working with ndiswrapper easily
[05:08] <cyphase> just install the driver
[05:08] <matatata> is it any nice program like STYLEXP on umbuntu=????
[05:08] <frogzoo> cyphase: you might like gtkwifi - only it doesnt integrate into the control panel for me - but of you figure it out, Id be interested how
[05:08] <cyphase> frogzoo, what is it?
[05:08] <Madpilot> matatata: what does StyleXP do? If it's a theme manager, then Ubuntu has a very good one built right in
[05:09] <frogzoo> cyphase: GUI for managing wifi connections - available atm only as a .deb - see sourceforge
[05:09] <cyphase> frogzoo, i use netapplet
[05:09] <thoreauputic> matatata: for heaven's sake start speling ubuntu correctly
[05:09] <dooglus> xiaogil: still there?
[05:09] <cius> matatata, you don't need anything like styleXP as far as hacking in theming support goes.
[05:09] <broam> heh
[05:09] <matatata> yes it is  theme manger
[05:09] <xiaogil> dooglus: yes, sure
[05:09] <ubuntu> test
[05:09] <thoreauputic> heh "s/speling/spelling
[05:09] <frogzoo> test!
[05:09] <xiaogil> dooglus: the iff image is readble by djview
[05:09] <thoreauputic> haha
[05:09] <bimberi> ubuntu: failed :P
[05:10] <dooglus> xiaogil: ok...  is that enough?
[05:10] <veryfunny> lol
[05:10] <xiaogil> dooglus: no, unfortunately
[05:10] <veryfunny> Question
[05:10] <xiaogil> dooglus: i'd like it to be in jpeg
[05:10] <veryfunny> I have two optical drives and only one works
[05:10] <veryfunny> is this commmon?
[05:10] <rjrecio> hi, is there any dashboard-like app instead of gdesklets?
[05:10] <dooglus> xiaogil: here's the answer: ddjvu -format=pnm image.djvu image.pnm
[05:10] <pu> Can somebody help me set up wifi on a laptop?
[05:10] <veryfunny> on is CD/DVD
[05:10] <broam> veryfunny: by optical do you mean CD?
[05:10] <matatata> how to try unbuntu without destroying my things and my windows copy so i can change back to XP later (if i want
[05:10] <veryfunny> other is CR-RW/DVD-R
[05:10] <broam> matatata: there is a way.
[05:10] <frogzoo> veryfunny: nope - somethings broken - IDE or SATA?
[05:10] <veryfunny> yes
[05:11] <_jason> matatata, use the livecd
[05:11] <dooglus> xiaogil: once you've got .pnm, you can convert that to whatever you like
[05:11] <matatata> livecd
[05:11] <matatata> i must burn into an cD????
[05:11] <tritium> yes
[05:11] <veryfunny> frogzoo:how could i tell its not my system its a friends
[05:11] <pu> i'm following this guide and i think have the problem pinned down, but dont know how to fix it
[05:11] <matatata> and start umbuntu with CD???
[05:11] <broam> Yes.
[05:11] <matatata> my cd burner not working...now what
[05:11] <sonare> sometimes i wish compiling and installing was as simple as clicking. i know it is antithetical but adding new themes to gnome like this is overkill for some users.
[05:11] <rjrecio> hi, is there any dashboard-like app instead of gdesklets?
[05:12] <cius> rjrecio, no that I've found, and I've been looking for a while.  Not for gnome anyway, kde has its own thing
[05:12] <thoreauputic> matatata: arghhh Please stop with the umbutu stuff
[05:12] <broam> sonare: there's always autopackage
[05:12] <tritium> matatata, when learning, you're going to have to pay close attention to the spelling and case of commands, etc.
[05:12] <rjrecio> cius, thanks!
[05:12] <sonare> broam,  i love you.
[05:12] <xiaogil> dooglus: you're fantastic! thanks a lot!...
[05:12] <cius> rjrecio, np
[05:12] <broam> autopackage is fun!
[05:12] <matatata> ubuntu
[05:12] <dooglus> xiaogil: i know :)  you're welcome!
[05:12] <xiaogil> dooglus: how did you find that ?
[05:12] <frogzoo> veryfunny: physically check the interfaces - Id check 1st the master/slave IDE jumpers
[05:12] <thoreauputic> tritium: heh :)
[05:12] <dooglus> xiaogil: I read all the man pages in that package
[05:12] <veryfunny> which is more standard in HP computers IDE or SATA?
[05:12] <_jason> matatata, you can order free cd's from shipit but they will take a while... or if you happen to be in philadelphia I'll give you one
[05:12] <pu> hello. is anyone familiar with setting up wifi in ubuntu? :)
[05:12] <veryfunny> because it is all still original
[05:13] <broam> IDE unless it's very very new, veryfunny
[05:13] <Gunblade> ok so I have installed pureadmin and pure-ftp, but how do you start the server and know what prots it uses etc. so I can set it all up
[05:13] <tritium> thoreauputic, :)
[05:13] <cius> rjrecio, you might try playing with panels in gnome, you can emulate some dashboard type stuff if you're creative.
[05:13] <matatata> I WANT one umbuntu CD for freee HOW
[05:13] <Gunblade> ports*
[05:13] <veryfunny> ok so then they are IDE
[05:13] <matatata> i live in SWEDEN
[05:13] <dooglus> xiaogil: I ran this command to step through the man pages until I found something interesting: for i in $(dpkg -L djvulibre-bin | grep /man/man1/ | cut -c21- | sed 's/.1.gz//'); do man $i; done
[05:13] <xiaogil> dooglus: i was just having a look at the djvu's homepage http://djvulibre.djvuzone.org/features.html
[05:13] <veryfunny> it is 2.5-3 years old
[05:13] <broam> !se
[05:13] <ubotu> broam: Are you on ritalin?
[05:13] <broam> No!
[05:13] <dooglus> xiaogil: there's possibly a better way to do it, but that worked for me
[05:13] <tritium> matatata, shipit.ubuntu.com
[05:13] <bimberi> matatata: https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[05:13] <matatata> thanks
[05:13] <frogzoo> veryfunny: either the cable is ribbon cable=IDE - or its thin 4 wire = SATA
[05:14] <broam> veryfunny: it'll be 40 or 80 wires (don't count, it'll take too long)
[05:14] <veryfunny> ribbon
[05:14] <thoreauputic> matatata: if you can't correct your typing and spelling maybe ubuntu isn't for you ;-)
[05:14] <_jason> matatata, sorry, sweden will be too long a walk from philadelphia :P
[05:14] <veryfunny> so IDE
[05:14] <frogzoo> veryfunny: my money is that its IDE & your problem is that the IDE jumpers are wrong - very common problem
[05:14] <veryfunny> how do we fix this?
[05:14] <matatata> jason come to me with the CD
[05:14] <veryfunny> a hammer?
[05:15] <broam> veryfunny: pliers, it's the only way ot pull jumpers out without fingernails
[05:15] <_jason> matatata, actually, if you buy me a ticket i could take a vacation to sweden
[05:15] <dooglus> xiaogil: that page would have led you to ddjvu very quickly...
[05:15] <matatata> ok same climat i think so happy winter vacation
[05:15] <frogzoo> veryfunny: you remove the drives - examine them for a little chart describing correct jumpering - and make sure each IDE channel has 1 max masters (or if only drive on channel) and 1 max slaves
[05:16] <matatata> do they send me a free cd no charges at all?????
[05:16] <tritium> yep
[05:16] <_jason> matatata, YES
[05:16] <broam> matatata: yes
[05:16] <johnw> how do I get into the korn shell/
[05:16] <johnw> ?
[05:16] <veryfunny> let me see...
[05:16] <frogzoo> matatata: the CDs take some time to arrive though
[05:16] <matatata>  =) =) =) = )= )= )  * 1000000
[05:16] <dooglus> matatata: they sent me 5, even though I only asked for 1.
[05:16] <tritium> johnm, you'll need to install it first
[05:16] <xiaogil> dooglus: yes, but still you were definetely much more quicker than me
[05:16] <dooglus> matatata: they pay postage, too
[05:16] <ardchoille> Is there a tut about how to install Opera somewhere? I must be missing something.
[05:16] <matatata> is it an key-code on every CD????
[05:16] <frogzoo> !opera
[05:16] <ubotu> Opera isn't in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and get then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[05:17] <ardchoille> thanks frogzoo
[05:17] <tritium> matatata, it's free -- no need for a key code
[05:17] <dooglus> matatata: ubuntu is free - there's no need for a key
[05:17] <matatata> ok
[05:17] <broam> !shipit
[05:17] <ubotu> [shipit]  For free ubuntu CDs, visit https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[05:17] <Madpilot> matatata: when you get your CDs, there's even a note on them encouraging you to copy them!
[05:17] <xiaogil> dooglus: do you think that converting those images into jpeg will alterate the quality ?
[05:17] <matatata> ununtu koncept is relly good freedom to people!!!
[05:17] <veryfunny> so you say there will be a chart on the drive?
[05:17] <johnw> where can I download the korn shell?
[05:17] <tritium> xiaogil, jpeg is lossy, so yes
[05:17] <broam> xiaogil: I do not doubt that converting those to jpeg will alterate the quality.  JPEG is lossy, so yes
[05:17] <dooglus> xiaogil: yes.  jpeg is 'lossy'.  if you use pnm instead you'll lose nothing.
[05:18] <dooglus> broam: I think you can tell jpeg to be non-lossy - is that true?
[05:18] <veryfunny> time to get some pliers and i'll be back
[05:18] <_jason> !pdksh
[05:18] <ubotu> _jason: Not a clue
[05:18] <_jason> !info pdksh
[05:18] <ubotu> pdksh: (A public domain version of the Korn shell), section shells, is optional. Version: 5.2.14-19 (breezy), Packaged size: 252 kB, Installed size: 436 kB
[05:18] <Madpilot> dooglus: not that I've ever heard - try saving as tiff or png if you want none-lossy
[05:18] <broam> veryfunny: Yes.  There's a chart on the drive.  And the pliers--you want needlenose
[05:18] <xiaogil> if any browser can read pnm, then that will be fine to me
[05:18] <frogzoo> veryfunny: a chart/label - or just a stripe on the connector with 'C' 'S 'M - the C is cable select, S=slave, M=master
[05:18] <broam> dooglus: if you set quality to 100 you can get it very very close
[05:19] <broam> dooglus: but it's not perfect, no
[05:19] <tritium> nothing is, though
[05:19] <johnw> thanks
[05:19] <xiaogil> dooglus: 7.4 MB for the PNM image!! that's amazing...
[05:20] <broam> Guys, I'd love to stay and chat
[05:20] <broam> but my girlfriend is threatening to take away my boob supply
[05:20] <sonare> is there anyway to bypass the "run, display, terminal run, cancel" dialogue when double-clicking anything that isn't a folder or native app? for example, text files. >:|
[05:20] <_jason> broam, i think it's understandable
[05:20] <broam> Laterz
[05:20] <rjrecio> how can I set up centrino scalable frequency options?
[05:21] <_jason> sonare, yes, check the options
[05:21] <matatata> how to save this CHANNEL i am no good with MIRC
[05:21] <Madpilot> sonare: there should be a "don't ask me again" checkbox somewhere on the popup?
[05:21] <Falstius> my wife doesn't have a boob supply :(
[05:21] <rjrecio> on fedora I use /etc/cpuspeed.conf
[05:21] <The_Isle_of_Mark> did someone say boobs?
[05:21] <_jason> sonare, edit > preferences > behavior
[05:21] <sonare> Madpilot: no.. :(
[05:21] <xiaogil> firefox can't display pnm image, what none lossy image format should i use then ?
[05:22] <Madpilot> xiaogil: png
[05:22] <Falstius> rjrecio: on my machine ubuntu is doing it automatically.
[05:22] <dooglus> Madpilot: check this: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/javascript/2003/11/14/digphoto_ckbk.html -- non-lossy jpg.
[05:22] <frogzoo> matatata: save as?
[05:22] <xiaogil> Madpilot: ok, thanks
[05:22] <Madpilot> sonare: hmm, I remember fixing that months ago when I first installed ubuntu, can't remember how, though
[05:22] <dooglus> xiaogil: pnm is a text-based format - take a look at the file with "head -100 file.pnm" and you'll see it looks like C source code.
[05:22] <tritium> dooglus, jpeg2000 is quite different from jpeg
[05:22] <rjrecio> Falstius, I know, but I want to customize it, for example, in cpuspeed I use an option that when power state is AC, the cpu clock works on fullspeed
[05:23] <dooglus> xiaogil: sorry - don't.  it's not ascii and it'll mess up your terminal...
[05:23] <matatata> Launchpad will be going offline for maintenance in 15 minutes.
[05:23] <matatata> i cant register+?
[05:23] <dooglus> tritium: right.
[05:23] <frogzoo> my lappie has no brightness controls - suggestions for software to set it?
[05:23] <Falstius> rjrecio: ahh ... should be in the config for acpid
[05:23] <rjrecio> when is on battery, it sets clock to minimum and just increase it on demand
[05:24] <Madpilot> dooglus: interesting, but from jpeg2000 != jpg, from what I read there
[05:24] <cfh_dev> I'm using a usb ethernet adapter and can't seem to ping localhost.  I don't have eth0 up.  Any thoughts?
[05:24] <sonare> drivers
[05:24] <frogzoo> cfh_dev: surely its not eth0 you want - usb0? or something ?
[05:24] <sonare> ha yes
[05:25] <cfh_dev> frogzoo: right, the usb thing is on rausb0
[05:25] <frogzoo> cfh_dev: correct settings in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[05:25] <rjrecio> Falstius, you meant /etc/acpi?
[05:25] <rjrecio> found nothing there ;(
[05:25] <dooglus> xiaogil: using -format=rle makes a very small file - but the gimp won't open it...
[05:26] <matatata> thanks for all help you all
[05:26] <cfh_dev> frogzoo: What kind of setting are you referencing?  I'm able to access the internet using this adapter, if that tells anything.
[05:26] <matatata> i will try out ubundo thans to YOU
[05:26] <tritium> good luck, matatata
[05:26] <matatata> cya later
[05:27] <matatata> thanks
[05:27] <The_Isle_of_Mark> anyone in here help me with umfufu linox?
[05:27] <frogzoo> cfh_dev: settings for localhost (and all networks ifs) are set in /etc/network/interfaces - take a look, ull see what I mean
[05:27] <cfh_dev> frogzoo: I don't see anything about localhost, just the loopback and other pertinent network stuff
[05:27] <pu> would anyone be so kind to help me out with this guide to set up wifi in ubuntu?
[05:27] <The_Isle_of_Mark> or is it uboongu?
[05:28] <rebort> The_Isle_of_Mark: what is Umfufu Linux?
[05:28] <cfh_dev> frogzoo: I have eth0 and rausb0 in there set with dhcp
[05:28] <Falstius> ahh, sweet tranquility.
[05:28] <rebort> The_Isle_of_Mark: oh I see
[05:28] <The_Isle_of_Mark> rebort, just a little fun
[05:28] <thoreauputic> The_Isle_of_Mark: troll alert!  *grin*
[05:28] <rebort> The_Isle_of_Mark: i was wondering :)
[05:28] <The_Isle_of_Mark> heheh
[05:29] <bob832> how can i get a more detailed summary of a clamav scan. such as a log?
[05:29] <frogzoo> cfh_dev: unless Im mistaken, the  loopback is localhost?
[05:29] <The_Isle_of_Mark> pu laptop?
[05:29] <Muldy> where would i go to request new things for the next ubuntu releaes
[05:29] <dooglus> xiaogil: saving as a .pnm and then running "convert image.pnm image.png" makes a smaller file, losslessly. (1.9Mb).
[05:29] <dooglus> Muldy: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[05:29] <pu> yes isle
[05:29] <rjrecio> will firefox 1.5 be available on ubuntu repos?
[05:29] <The_Isle_of_Mark> pu what card?
[05:29] <Muldy> dooglus, cheers
[05:29] <pu> netgear ma521
[05:29] <cfh_dev> frogzoo: for some reason, iface lo wasn't up
[05:29] <rjrecio> anyone knows ? :P
[05:29] <thoreauputic> rjrecio: only if someone backports it
[05:29] <Amaranth> rjrecio: It won't be available for breezy unless you download it from mozilla.com
[05:29] <The_Isle_of_Mark> pu and are you using breezy?
[05:29] <xiaogil> dooglus: thanks!!
[05:29] <pu> yes
[05:30] <_jason> ubotu, tell rjrecio about ffbackport
[05:30] <pu> i am using this guide
[05:30] <frogzoo> cfh_dev: another satisfied customer ;)
[05:30] <pu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com//SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[05:30] <The_Isle_of_Mark> pu ok did you get the drivers for xp?
[05:30] <dooglus> Amaranth: it should appear in breezy-backports at some point I'd expect
[05:30] <Amaranth> rjrecio: Too many things that use firefox (yelp, the help browser; epiphany, the gnome web browser; etc) break if you replace 1.0.7 with 1.5
[05:30] <pu> i think the problem lies in step 6/7 of the first part
[05:30] <rebort> dooglus: it will when it's in dapper
[05:30] <Amaranth> dooglus: Not without rebuilding half the system.
[05:30] <odla> 1.5rc3 is sweet
[05:30] <rjrecio> right, thanks!
[05:30] <fe> can anyone give me a quick remedy?  i'm trying to look at /media/hdc1 (my win partition) as a user, but i don't have the permissions, and when i try to sudo/chmod it, it says i can't change the permissions then, either, because it's read only
[05:30] <pu> because it says if i use "make deb".. two packages will result.. and i only see one
[05:30] <rjrecio> so I will keep my little 1.0.7
[05:30] <rjrecio> ;>
[05:30] <pu> the first one of the two
[05:30] <fe> and just going into su in ubuntu seems out of the question :p
[05:31] <dooglus> 1.50 final seems to crash a lot more than the release candidates did.
[05:31] <pu> and yes, i have the drivers for both xp and 2000
[05:31] <The_Isle_of_Mark> pu I think compiling is silly for that. you should do it with apt-get
[05:31] <Amaranth> odla: 1.5rc3 == 1.5
[05:31] <frogzoo> !tell fe about windows
[05:31] <Madpilot> fe: "sudo chmod <whatever>" - with the space, not a /
[05:31] <The_Isle_of_Mark> pu you want me to walk you through it?
[05:31] <frogzoo> !tell fe about ntfs
[05:31] <pu> i would very much appreciate it
[05:31] <odla> Amaranth: really?  but i am running 1.4.99rc3 Deer Park
[05:31] <Muldy> 1.5 has memory leaks in it, and so does 1.0
[05:32] <pu> the problem is, i have no connection to the laptop right now
[05:32] <Muldy> mozilla need to majorly overhaul fiefox
[05:32] <pu> this computer i'm using now is wireless as well
[05:32] <frogzoo> besides, 1.5 will break all your plugins for no tangible advantage
[05:32] <Amaranth> Muldy: Not memory leaks, bad malloc
[05:32] <Falstius> Fe, you need to change the options in /etc/fstab
[05:32] <veryfunny> back
[05:32] <_jason> frogzoo, that's not true
[05:32] <xiaogil> dooglus: do you have a suggestion for the pnm/png conversion tool ?
[05:32] <Muldy> Amaranth, explain bad malloc?
[05:32] <dooglus> frogzoo: it is a lot faster, particularly the forward/back operation
[05:32] <dooglus> xiaogil: "convert"
[05:32] <The_Isle_of_Mark> pu do from a terminal type sudo install ndiswrapper-utils
[05:32] <dooglus> xiaogil: part of image magick
[05:32] <gandir> anyone know about a posible solution to my problem? I cannot connect to my windows xp machine over my local lan it does not accept my login, even if the username and password are correct are there any kind of settings i need to use to make it to authenticate on a windows xp pro machine?
[05:33] <fe> Falstius, which
[05:33] <frogzoo> _jason: what about flash? ra? mpeg? etc ?
[05:33] <durt> frogzoo: how does it break plugins?
[05:33] <pu> says.. too few arguments
[05:33] <_jason> frogzoo, idk what ra is but the others work for me
[05:33] <Amaranth> Muldy: Let's say firefox is using |||||||||| (memory) and frees some of it so it's only using ||0000000| (0 is non-used). The free parts count against firefox until that last used part is freed.
[05:33] <fworp> does anyone here own an external usb modem? ive been looking for a usb/pcmcia 56k modem for my powerbook, and most of the online listings are full of modems that are no longer being sold, the companies have gone bankrupt, alien abductions, etc etc. So i was trying to find a living breathing person who has one (and preferably is using it now) to leech some information from
[05:33] <frogzoo> _jason: ra would be real audio
[05:33] <The_Isle_of_Mark> pu do from a terminal type sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils oops
[05:33] <thoreauputic> or aptitude ...
[05:34] <_jason> frogzoo, i don't thnik i've used it but since the mplayer-plugin is working fine with everything else it probably works fine too
[05:34] <Falstius> fe, I have: /dev/sdb1       /drives/knox    ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0222     0       0
[05:34] <dooglus> Amaranth: if that memory has been freed, it should be reusable by firefox
[05:34] <xiaogil> dooglus: excellent!
[05:34] <pu> k done but says it's already the newest version
[05:34] <veryfunny> frogzoo, i set the read only drives to master and the burner to slave.
[05:34] <Muldy> Amaranth, see, i think it goes beyodn that, because i've noticed that the memory keeps growing and growing. if what you were saying were true, the next time someone someone malloc'd, some of those 0's would be allocated i assume? but no, firefox just asks for more ram.
[05:34] <veryfunny> frogzoo, still no luck
[05:34] <pu> the problem i get is with modprobe.. has FATAL: something..
[05:34] <frogzoo> durt: _jason I stand corrected - 1.5 apparently doesnt cause problems for plugins
[05:35] <rjrecio> everytime that I access my win partition from ubuntu, when I boot windows I have to check it... anyone knows why? I mount it read-only
[05:35] <fe> Falstius, thx, that umask tag worked
[05:35] <frogzoo> veryfunny: a chart/label - or just a stripe on the connector with 'C' 'S 'M - the C is cable select, S=slave, M=master
[05:35] <The_Isle_of_Mark> pu ok great, have you unzipped the windows drivers somewhere?
[05:35] <pu> yes
[05:35] <pu> home/driver/
[05:35] <dooglus> Muldy: did you try running it under valgrind to find out which routine is leaking?
[05:35] <The_Isle_of_Mark> pu is that /home/<username>/driver?
[05:35] <pu> should i use the 2000 or XP drivers?
[05:35] <frogzoo> veryfunny: please describe the layout? are both drives on the 1 cable?
[05:36] <Muldy> dooglus, havent tried it in linux yet, just windows and been monitoring it through taskman.  i've seen on bugzilla people reporting the same with linux releases
 Amaranth, see, i think it goes beyodn that, because i've noticed that the memory keeps growing and growing. if what you were saying were true, the next time someone someone malloc'd, some of those 0's would be allocated i assume? but no, firefox just asks for more ram.
[05:36] <pu> w/ <username> i think
[05:36] <veryfunny> yes both on one
[05:36] <pu> yes.. w/ username
[05:36] <Amaranth> Muldy: No, no one else can use them until firefox gives up that last |
[05:36] <The_Isle_of_Mark> pu ok what is the .inf file in the folder?
[05:36] <Pablo> I am on a lappy and I was wondering how to get it to recognize my hotswap cd drive once I slide it in?
[05:36] <frogzoo> veryfunny: so you need one drive labelled as master (preferably DVD) and the CD as slave
[05:36] <dooglus> Muldy: the most recent release doesn't suffer from the problem for me.  It doesn't stay up long enough to grow to an unweildy size :)
[05:37] <pu> NETMA521.inf
[05:37] <Amaranth> Muldy: But yeah, firefox does eat a lot of RAM holding the cache entirely in ram.
[05:37] <dooglus> Amaranth: I think you're missing his point.  firefox itself can reuse memory that it has freed
[05:37] <veryfunny> frogzoo, the top drive is a CD/DVD only and the bottom is CD-RW/DVD-RW
[05:37] <pu> does it matter if i use the XP versus the 2000 drivers?
[05:37] <Amaranth> dooglus: It does.
[05:37] <Muldy> yeah nevermind returning the ram to the OS
[05:37] <pu> because i have both.
[05:37] <The_Isle_of_Mark> pu ok linux is case-sensitive so do a sudo ndiswrapper -h and tell me what it says
[05:37] <Muldy> let me describe my problem more clearly
[05:37] <Amaranth> dooglus: You'll notice memory usage eventually levels out.
[05:37] <whyameye> I made a change in /boot/grub/menu.lst which is preventing my ubuntu Breezy from booting. I undid the change by booting a live ubuntu CD but I don't know how to run update-grub for the hard drive from the live CD...so the hard drive still won't boot. Any suggestions?
[05:37] <veryfunny> frogzoo, the CD/DVD is now the master and the CD-RW/DVD-RW is now the slave
[05:37] <Amaranth> Muldy: But firefox does hold the entire cache in RAM.
[05:37] <frogzoo> veryfunny: and then both drives should appear in the bios - usually jumper the fastest drive as master, here I dont think it makes any difference
[05:37] <Pablo> I am on a lappy and I was wondering how to get it to recognize my hotswap cd drive once I slide it in?
[05:38] <Amaranth> Muldy: So if you have broadband and bandwidth to spare kill the cache.
[05:38] <The_Isle_of_Mark> pu I meant sudo ndiswrapper -l not h
[05:38] <veryfunny> frogzoo, do i have to change anything in the bios?
[05:38] <dooglus> Amaranth: it holds the memory cache in RAM, and the disk cache on disk...  much like any other browser
[05:38] <veryfunny> forgzoo, or is it automatic?
[05:38] <frogzoo> Pablo: if its usb, it should just happen automagically
[05:38] <dooglus> Amaranth: unless it gets swapped out, of course.  then it's on the swap partition.
[05:38] <pu> it says Installed ndis drivers:....etc..... driver present, hardware present
[05:38] <seth_k|lappy> whyameye, this wiki page will help you recover GRUB: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[05:38] <Muldy> You open firefox.  You run a few tabs for different sites.  You close those tabs. You open more tabs to view more sites.  More googling, etc.  6 hours down the track, you have only 1 tab in firefox set on some .txt site, yet it's allocated iteslf 130mb of ram, and each new tab increases memory allocations from the OS
[05:38] <The_Isle_of_Mark> pu more specific please
[05:38] <pu> ok
[05:38] <frogzoo> veryfunny: you need to go into drive detect in bios - after youve set the jumpers properly - is that done?
[05:38] <pu> looks like this.. first line..
[05:39] <pu> Installed ndis drivers:
[05:39] <Muldy> if that's not a memory leak, then that's a bloody bad "feature"
[05:39] <pu> second line is..
[05:39] <veryfunny> frogzoo, nope...shall do that now
[05:39] <pu> netma521                     driver present, hardware present
[05:39] <bob832> anyone know where clamav stores its scan logs?
[05:39] <durt> pu: looks good to me
[05:39] <Pablo> frogzoo, it is a hotswap cd drive that plugs in a media bay on meh lappy
[05:39] <whyameye> seth_k|lappy, I just went to the web page you mention. All of the commands are blank. Am I missing a font or something?
[05:39] <dooglus> Muldy: I've seen the same.  No tabs open, and huge memory usage.  Could be that it's using 130Mb of cache in RAM, but I doubt it.
[05:39] <The_Isle_of_Mark> pu great, ok do sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[05:39] <Amaranth> Muldy: Yeah, it doesn't like to free RAM but it doesn't use more, it'll reuse that 130mb.
[05:39] <frogzoo> Pablo: drop in a CD & see what happens
[05:39] <Muldy> Amaranth, but it doesnt reuse it it allocates more.
[05:39] <Pablo> ok
[05:39] <durt> he needs to modprobe ndiswrapper first
[05:39] <Muldy> it keeps allocating ore
[05:40] <Amaranth> Muldy: To be honest most linux apps like to eat up all the ram they can, it's just the way it is.
[05:40] <pu> says... "wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device"
[05:40] <Muldy> Amaranth, yeah but this is just ridiculous
[05:40] <Muldy> dooglus, i agree.
[05:40] <durt> pu: modprobe ndiswrapper
[05:40] <Amaranth> Muldy: For firefox 2.0 gecko is basically getting rewritten so hopefully this will get cleaned up.
[05:40] <seth_k|lappy> whyameye, odd. I've copied it to pastebin for you: http://pastebin.com/450530
[05:40] <Pablo> frogzoo, nothing happens
[05:40] <Pablo> :\
[05:40] <pu> modprobe is the problem i am having..
[05:40] <Muldy> dooglus, someone else i've talked to thinks it's memory leaks in the gdk_pixmap code
[05:40] <Amaranth> Muldy: They're getting rid of a _lot_ of dead code and switching to cairo for all rendering.
[05:41] <Amaranth> Muldy: dead == unmaintained
[05:41] <The_Isle_of_Mark> pu I thought you had done that :) ok try sudo modprobe ndiswrapper and tell me the output
[05:41] <Muldy> Amaranth, i hope so, cause apart from this, 1.5 is pretty decent.
[05:41] <pu> ok.. here it is.. "FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted"
[05:41] <dooglus> Muldy: try disabling the browser.cache.memory.enable preference - that'll disable the RAM cache.  Does it still leak?
[05:41] <frogzoo> Pablo: suggest google with drive name & ubuntu
[05:41] <Pablo> ok
[05:41] <Pablo> I will just reboot
[05:41] <pu> that's where things get messed up..
[05:41] <Amaranth> Muldy: The architectural reorganization plan is an awesome read.
[05:42] <Pablo> it works if it is in when I boot it frogzoo
[05:42] <Muldy> dooglus, i'll tell you in about 6 hours :)
[05:42] <Amaranth> Muldy: But it's spread out along about 5 different blog posts.
[05:42] <dooglus> Muldy: OK...  I'll be sleeping then, but I'll still be idling here.
[05:42] <Pablo> brb
[05:42] <The_Isle_of_Mark> pu ok one sec
[05:42] <pu> and i think it has something to do with... "dpkg -i --force-overwrite ndiswrapper-modules-$(uname -r)_1.6-1.i386.deb"
[05:42] <Muldy> Amaranth, hmmm okay. dont they have a concise roadmap somewhere/
[05:43] <Michael> Can someone tell me how to give read (or read-write) permissions to one of my windows partitions?
[05:43] <lysis> hey is there a reason my center channel doesn't have any audio coming out of it ever? i'm missing audio from the center channel in dvd's
[05:43] <Amaranth> Muldy: Not that I know of, but it might have been migrated to the wiki.
[05:43] <durt> pu: wow, wtf is that
[05:43] <_jason> ubotu, tell Michael about mountwindows
[05:43] <pu> don't know durt :(
[05:43] <frogzoo> !tell Michael about ntfs
[05:43] <pu> it's step 6 & 7 from here..https://wiki.ubuntu.com//SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[05:44] <whyameye> seth_k|lappy, thanks. I'm going over it now...
[05:44] <pu> but that's just my guess?
[05:44] <Muldy> Amaranth, ah ok. cause i know they did have a roadmap website but it was very vague. not nearly as comprehensive as openoffice's one
[05:44] <veryfunny> frogzoo, the BIOS configuration is first channel master -> 120gb HD, first channel slave -> none, second channel master ->Optical Reader (CD/DVD), second channel slave Optical Writer (CD-RW/DVD-RW), third channel master and slave => none
[05:44] <durt> pu: what is the output after "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"?
[05:44] <veryfunny> frogzoo, that matches the jumper also
[05:45] <The_Isle_of_Mark> pu what was the file name again?
[05:45] <pu> ok, the exact output after modprobe is ""FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[05:45] <frogzoo> veryfunny: so both drives should be accessible - as /dev/hdc and /dev/hdd - probably need appropriate entries in /etc/fstab Id guess
[05:45] <veryfunny> how do i correct that?
[05:46] <durt> pu: apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` and see if that does anything
[05:46] <frogzoo> veryfunny: paste the line for /dev/hdc
[05:46] <The_Isle_of_Mark> pu what exaxtly...cut and paste...is the output of sudo ndiswrapper -l?
[05:47] <pu> i can't cut and paste, because it's on the laptop
[05:47] <pu> but it says on the first line "Installed ndis drivers:"
[05:47] <veryfunny> frogzoo, says permission denied as sudo
[05:47] <The_Isle_of_Mark> pu ok be case sensitive on the driver present
[05:47] <frogzoo> pu usb key?
[05:47] <pu> and on the second line.. "netma521             driver present, hardware present"
[05:47] <pu> that's all
[05:47] <frogzoo> veryfunny: grep hdc /etc/fstab
[05:48] <durt> pu: that part is fine - your having kernel/module problems
[05:48] <veryfunny> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[05:48] <bob832> nm, found my answer
[05:48] <durt> pu: make sure you have the restricted modules installed
[05:48] <veryfunny> frogzoo /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[05:48] <pu> so it does have to do with that line from step 7 on that tutorial?
[05:49] <slew> hi, i want to monitor the cpu temprature, i have lm_sensors installed but it seems not to work, what do i need to do to make this work?
[05:49] <pu> ndiswrapper-modules-$(uname -r)_1.1-1_i386.deb
[05:49] <pu> that one ^
[05:49] <Michael> That script mounted EVERYTHING but the partition I needed
[05:49] <The_Isle_of_Mark> pu yes
[05:49] <frogzoo> veryfunny: use 'sudo vi /etc/fstab' to add this line "/dev/hdd        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0" - then "sudo mkdir /media/cdrom1 ; mount -a"
[05:49] <pu> i used "make deb" and the tutorial said it was supposed to create two .deb but i only got one
[05:50] <pu> so i don't know how to get that second part
[05:50] <The_Isle_of_Mark> pu remove ndiswrapper and then re-install it with apt and try again. the version with breezy is
[05:50] <The_Isle_of_Mark> !info ndiswrapper
[05:50] <veryfunny> frogzoo, where do i add it?
[05:50] <pu> how do i remove?
[05:50] <frogzoo> veryfunny: just under the hdc line in /etc/fstab
[05:51] <pu> should i start Ubuntu from scratch?
[05:51] <The_Isle_of_Mark> 1.1-4ubuntu2
[05:51] <The_Isle_of_Mark> pu it might be easier
[05:51] <bob832> is ubuntu considered debian 2.1 or debian 3+  ?
[05:51] <The_Isle_of_Mark> pu but you dont have to
[05:51] <pu> i don't mind
[05:51] <frogzoo> bob832: its not considered debian at all
[05:52] <rebort> bob832: probably 3+, but its not really debian in any sense
[05:52] <The_Isle_of_Mark> pu then that would clean it out, if it was a fresh install, that is what I would do
[05:52] <pu> so, lets say i had a fresh install and the windows drivers on a USB drive
[05:52] <pu> what steps would i take to install?
[05:52] <rebort> bob832: there are many things you can read on the relationship search for it
[05:52] <bob832> oh, i thought it was a derivative of debian
[05:52] <rebort> bob2: it is
[05:53] <The_Isle_of_Mark> pu sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils, let it fix depency issues, then follow the tutorial from step
[05:53] <rebort> address that to bob832
[05:53] <bob832> rebort:  alright, i am going to have to do that, thanks
[05:53] <The_Isle_of_Mark> pu step 1 of installing windows drivers
[05:53] <veryfunny> frogzoo, it just beeps when i try typing
[05:54] <The_Isle_of_Mark> pu got that?
[05:54] <pu> yes sir, but it will take a while to re-install :)
[05:54] <The_Isle_of_Mark> pu sokay, I have to go anyway...midnight here
[05:54] <pu> thank you very much for your help
[05:55] <pu> i think once i get wireless working, i can work my way through ubuntu
[05:55] <The_Isle_of_Mark> pu np...oh and use wifi-radar for managing wireless connections, pretty nice
[05:55] <pu> ok
[05:55] <a|so> hello people
[05:56] <a|so> i need some help..
[05:56] <veryfunny> frogzoo, i tried copy pasting that in terminal and it just beeped
[05:56] <a|so> i just ran up the live ubuntu cd
[05:56] <a|so> but i cant run any programs that i download
[05:56] <a|so> why is that
[05:56] <rebort> a|so: how so
[05:56] <a|so> it says cant open
[05:56] <frogzoo> veryfunny: if you press 'dd' inside vi, it will delete the line, then push 'pp' to paste the line twice 'then position the cursor over c and press 'rd' to replace the c with d - do the same for drive0 to make it drive 1
[05:56] <a|so> something like that.. i tried to download skype
[05:56] <a|so> i even tried up with various other programs nothing installs..
[05:56] <ardchoille> !plf
[05:56] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, ardchoille
[05:56] <a|so> jut note that am using a live cd.
[05:57] <a|so> just*
[05:57] <ardchoille> :(
[05:57] <a|so> its my first time on this os..and looks pretty good..
[05:57] <pu> one question... should i use the XP drivers or the windows 2000 drivers?
[05:57] <ardchoille> Anyone know how to add the plf Ubuntu repos to sources.list?
[05:57] <rebort> a|so: where are you downloading these programs fromZ
[05:57] <frogzoo> a|so: once you start using the pkg manager, you start to like ubuntu it more
[05:58] <Michael> Thanks for the script frogzoo or ubotu
[05:58] <Michael> I edited it and got it work
[05:58] <slew> hi, i want to monitor the cpu temprature, i have lm_sensors installed but it seems not to work, what do i need to do to make this work?
[05:58] <Madpilot> slew: you need to install ksensors or xsensors to get desktop display working
[05:59] <slew> Madpilot, thanks homie
[05:59] <a|so> i dont even know what pkg manager is.. am not really that into computers.. but a friend of mine.. promotes linux back in maldives.. thats where am from.. and he said to try it out..since its very stable..and.. well i refused to use it for a long time.. saying that.. if this was better.. why  are almost everyone using windows.. anyways gave it a shot today..and it works wonderful.
[05:59] <Madpilot> lm_sensors doesn't have a front-end display mode
[05:59] <veryfunny> frogzoo, i got up to here "'then position the cursor over c and press 'rd' to replace the c with d - do the same for drive0 to make it drive 1
[05:59] <a|so> i went to .. www.skype.com and tried to the debian version download
[05:59] <veryfunny> frogzoo, over which c?
[05:59] <a|so> do you think that.. maybe since am using a live version.. i cant download anything ?
[05:59] <frogzoo> !tell a|so about synaptic
[06:00] <a|so> what is synaptic ?
[06:00] <rebort> a|so: you can install thinsg on the live version but you really should install to a hard disk for that
[06:00] <frogzoo> !synaptic
[06:00] <ubotu> hmm... synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[06:00] <rebort> a|so: synaptic is a package management (aka installation/removal program) that is in the administration menu
[06:01] <rebort> a|so: look https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Skype?highlight=%28skype%29 for skype installation help
[06:01] <n00bmaster> hey, ubuntu wont find my isa nics
[06:01] <whyameye> when adding support for hibernation in Breezy, how do I know what disk partition to put in the #kopts line?
[06:01] <frogzoo> n00bmaster: isa nics will need irqs/io defined for the drivers cos its not P&P
[06:01] <n00bmaster> ok
[06:01] <veryfunny> frogzoo, this is what i have >> http://pastebin.com/450558
[06:02] <khalif> Hey, I'm trying to apply a patch to my kernal. How can I find out what folder my source is stored in? Someone suggested I install linux headers for my version, which I did, but I don't know what to do after that.
[06:02] <rebort> a|so: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto is a better howto
[06:02] <n00bmaster> What will I need to install, because it is refusing to install with file not found errors
[06:03] <frogzoo> veryfunny: now use the 'r' command to change one line to "/dev/hdc    /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto  0   0"
[06:03] <rebort> khalif: source is in /usr/src/linux i believe, what do you need a patch for?
[06:03] <alekz> why i cant print on gimp? anything happends :S
[06:03] <whyameye> when I hibernate to disk, where are the RAM pages stored?
[06:03] <frogzoo> !tell whyameye about cups
[06:03] <whyameye> frogzoo, isn't cups about printing?
[06:03] <n00bmaster> typo
[06:03] <khalif> I'm installing a bootsplash for my box. I looked in usr/src, but i didn't see anything for my linux kernal.
[06:04] <veryfunny> frogzoo, this >> http://pastebin.com/450562
[06:04] <frogzoo> src whyameye, meant alekz
[06:04] <frogzoo> !tell alekz about printing
[06:05] <alekz> frogzoo, i can print on any other aplication :S
[06:05] <XiCillin> is it hard to set up ubuntu on a 64-bit dual core processor?
[06:05] <XiCillin> or should it detect it
[06:05] <frogzoo> veryfunny: probly now a reboot & everything should work
[06:05] <cyber> Hello to all
[06:05] <cyber> somebody that speak Spanish?
[06:05] <veryfunny> frogzoo, do i have to save?
[06:06] <triple5> si un poquito
[06:06] <mohad> hi there
[06:06] <frogzoo> veryfunny: yup 'wq'
[06:06] <Madpilot> !es
[06:06] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:06] <veryfunny> frogzoo, then close terminal?
[06:07] <veryfunny> frogzoo, sorry this is my first time in vi
[06:07] <frogzoo> veryfunny: did you 'mkdir /mnt/cdrom1' ?
[06:07] <veryfunny> frogzoo, no
[06:07] <mohad> can anybody help me how to install BBX-Mercury-l theme
[06:07] <frogzoo> veryfunny: sry,'sudo mkdir media/cdrom1'
[06:08] <veryfunny> frogzoo, i am still looking at etc/fstab..should that go away? or do i need to open a new terminal?
[06:08] <paul__> hi guys, wondering if someone can assist me. I've installed the amd64 5.1 version of ubuntu. I have an issue loading into the desktop. I can get the intial login screen, enter my username and password, i hear a sound, and then i just stays on a blank screen
[06:08] <frogzoo> veryfunny: then 'ls -l /media/cd*'
[06:08] <paul__> i'm tried all the different "session" options, and none of them seem to work, all the same symptoms.
[06:08] <frogzoo> veryfunny: 'wq' should write & close the vi session - if it reporting errors, you dont have write permission - did you use sudo?
[06:09] <paul__> My pc specs at 2gig ram AMD X2 4000, geforce 6800/7800 ( not sure)
[06:09] <Hoxzer> how do I make file writable to all users?
[06:09] <veryfunny> frogzoo, yes i use sudo, when i type w it says recording, but q does nothing
[06:09] <Kibou> ..
[06:09] <paul__> Hoxzer: chmod
[06:09] <morphix> hmm.. i cant seem to get nvidia drivers to install anymore :(
[06:09] <khalif> paul_: Theres a bug with the ubuntu version for pc's. Reboot your box
[06:09] <frogzoo> alekz:  probly gimp prints as postscript so youl need postscript enabled
[06:09] <morphix> can someone help.
[06:09] <morphix> plz./
[06:10] <alekz> frogzoo, how can i enable it ?
[06:10] <khalif> at the GRUB menu press esc when prompted
[06:10] <paul__> ok
[06:10] <paul__> and then?.
[06:10] <khalif> Find your boot version in the menu (it's should be the first one)
[06:10] <whyameye> trying to get hibernation to work on my Dell. I get "resume= option should be used to set suspend device" then it freezes. I assume this is for the /boot/grub/menu.lst. How do I know what option to put in, though? Tried hda2 and it was a disaster....
[06:11] <paul__> yerp. and then? :)
[06:11] <khalif> I think its the second line on the next menu, but you'll see something referred to boot...
[06:11] <XiCillin> any experience bugs when restarting the computer? (shuting down gnome?)
[06:11] <frogzoo> veryfunny: sry, I can't teach you vi like this - suggest you try http://database.sarang.net/study/vim/HOWTO/Vim-HOWTO-7.html#ss7.1
[06:11] <khalif> highlight that and press "e" to edit it.
[06:12] <paul__> yep, what do i change.
[06:12] <Muldy> heh
[06:12] <Muldy> nevermind 6 hours of use
[06:12] <Muldy> i've clocked up 60mb already
[06:13] <Muldy> and i only have the apache howto and aandtech up
[06:13] <paul__> what am i editing khalif heh
[06:13] <khalif> When the edit screen appears, use the arrow keys to move all the way to the end of the line, press spacebar and then type the word "irqpoll". after that press "b" to boot and then everything should be ok.
[06:13] <douthat> what is the color PS1 setup in ubuntu?
[06:13] <SpYdErXx> Hi guys
[06:13] <paul__> k
[06:13] <SpYdErXx> new with ubuntu ;)
[06:13] <khalif> Don't type the quotes, just irqpoll
[06:14] <paul__> i'll be back in 5 minutes with the result
[06:14] <SpYdErXx> wussup
[06:14] <khalif> Hold up a sec!
[06:14] <khalif> Damn!
[06:14] <ordinary> How do I change mp3 files to wav files with a command line?  what program do I use anbd where do I get it?
[06:15] <khalif> I wanted to tell him that ever so often irqpoll gets knocked out and that he'll have to re-edit the boot line to add it back in....
[06:15] <munzir> hi sirs, when  the client/resolver query for DNS records, where are those cached? how can one flush them?
[06:16] <a|so> this is what it says skype:
[06:16] <a|so>  Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>=3:3.3.3.2) but it is not installable
[06:16] <polpak> munzir, it depends on the client. Typically they are cached on the name servers themselves
[06:16] <thedevilsjester> How do I restore grub onto my MBR from within a 5.10 live cd?
[06:17] <polpak> munzir, but many browsers will cache dns results until the browser is restarted
[06:17] <frogzoo> alekz try this link http://packages.ubuntu.org.cn/breezy/graphics/cupsys-driver-gimpprint
[06:17] <munzir> polpak: for example I am using linux and queried using dig
[06:17] <alekz> thanks frogzoo :)
[06:17] <polpak> munzir, dig does not cache the results
[06:17] <polpak> munzir, the name server you are querying might
[06:17] <douthat> i have kind of a noobish question: how can I find out which packages I have installed aren't part of sarge stable?
[06:18] <ryan__> how do I install a .deb file?  I forgot
[06:18] <polpak> dpkg -i file.deb
[06:18] <frogzoo> ryan__: dpkg -r blah
[06:18] <douthat> ryan__: dpkg -i
[06:18] <ryan__> thanks
[06:18] <frogzoo> *-i* (needs glasses)
[06:19] <pu> is there a recommended "switching to ubuntu from windows" guide?
[06:19] <gleesond> is there a way to upgrade from worty to hoary without reinstalling?
[06:19] <khalif> I see a folder called boot with some files that are names after my kernal version. Could this folder be where the my source is stored?
[06:20] <munzir> polpak: when I use dig for example to do queries, I got an ANSWER SECTION with the name of the domain and a TTL value. That value means if the domain change its ip for example dig will still give that old value until the TTL expires and then it would query the NS again, you got me?
[06:20] <_jason> I installed freenx, will this startup automatically when I reboot?  How can I check if it is currently running (I dont have access to a windows machine right now)?
[06:21] <whyameye> where is the swap partition?
[06:21] <frogzoo> gleesond: I believe you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryUpgrade
[06:21] <thedevilsjester> I am in a Breezy Live CD, how do I restore grub onto my MBR from it?
[06:21] <frogzoo> gleesond: then afterwards, upgrade to breezy - but dont miss the middle step (Hoary)
[06:22] <ordinary> ubuntubuntubuntubun
[06:22] <ordinary> ubuntubuns...
[06:22] <ordinary> lets make a new kind of pastry and then opensource it
[06:24] <veryfunny> frogzoo, i figured out the vi stuff and did 'mkdir /media/cdrom1' then 'ls -l /media/cd*'
[06:24] <mobrien> hi, i've got a weird samba issue that i hope someone could give me some advice with.  I've been going nuts for a few days
[06:24] <Hoxzer> how do I use chmod to make file readtable and writable to certain user?
[06:24] <veryfunny> frogzoo, it gave me this:  lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    6 2005-12-05 21:24 /media/cdrom -> cdrom0
[06:24] <veryfunny> total 0
[06:24] <veryfunny> total 0
[06:25] <mobrien> all my needed ports are open to my lan 137-139 and 445, but sometimes I can't browse any shares (local or remote)
[06:25] <_jason> Hoxzer, you can modify owner, group, and all.  to make the owner have read and write: chmod u+rx file
[06:25] <a|so> installing skype..is more like doing a huge program.. is there any tool which could be a useful replacement for voice chat in ubuntu ?
[06:25] <mobrien> when I do nmblookup -M -- - I get ""name_query failed to find name   __MSBROWSE__ #01"
[06:26] <veryfunny> frogzoo, i meant this >> http://pastebin.com/450582
[06:26] <mobrien> tried forcing master browser = yes in the conf, no luck
[06:28] <limguohong91> I am using gnomad2 but when I connect to my mp3 it saud USB_SET_Confrigation: Operation not permitted
[06:28] <limguohong91> May I know how can i fix this?
[06:28] <Hoxzer> _jason: ok, how do I change the owner?
[06:29] <_jason> Hoxzer, chown username file
[06:29] <veryfunny> Grrrrr
[06:29] <veryfunny> damn optical drives
[06:30] <veryfunny> hell im going to bed
[06:31] <paul--> hello, i came here 5 or so minutes ago, i've got an issue loading into the gnome, after putting in my username/password,i hear a sound and see a blank background and it just sits there.
[06:31] <NoobIntrouble> Having Trouble getting Wine to install in Ubuntu...tryed apt-get install wine. advised package not found.. why?
[06:31] <munzir> polpak: thanks a lot I got it now
[06:31] <paul--> someone mentioend i tried putting irqpoll at the end of the boot line, but that didnt seem to work at all,
[06:33] <paul--> perhaps i'm adding the 'irqpoll' to the wrong line, i cant seem to find anything about it on the net.
[06:34] <a|so> mmm where do i find my hard disks ?
[06:35] <veryfunny> places>computer
[06:36] <dreamer> you find your hard disk inside your tower
[06:36] <sethk> dreamer, I found one of mine in the garbage, but that's because I put it there yesterday
[06:36] <pu> can i ask somebody here a question about ndiswrapper?
[06:36] <phyburn> hello i was wounder if there way any way to install Ubuntu with the installer but I need to set up special peramiters because i already have gentoo on it
[06:37] <phyburn> installer cd*
[06:37] <zoexii> pu, maybe
[06:37] <pu> which drivers should i use? win xp or win 2000?
[06:37] <a|so> am nt able to access any of my hard disks.. i went to system and disks it says inaccessable and i tried to enable but nothing happens
[06:37] <sethk> phyburn, if you mean do your own partitioning and destination selection, sure
[06:37] <sethk> phyburn, use expert mode
[06:37] <phyburn> kk
[06:37] <phyburn> thanks
[06:37] <phyburn> how would i boot into that
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> a|so,  you are refering to your WIndows drives?
[06:37] <paul--> grr tried irqpoll, still cant login to gnome, just gets stuck :(
[06:38] <zoexii> pu, whichever works...  right now I use the XP driver for my card, and it works.  I've never tried the 2000
[06:38] <pu> what do u think i should use zoexii?
[06:38] <phyburn> sethk, do i just boot normal or do I need to do some thing before it boots normal
[06:38] <pu> ic, thanks
[06:38] <pu> what kind of card do u have?
[06:38] <zoexii> pu, try one, if it doen't work, try the other,
[06:38] <zoexii> pu, dwl 122 usb
[06:39] <zoexii> pu, Dlink that is...
[06:39] <a|so> no.. am running live ubuntu for the first time.. and i cant check on any of my hard disks..which are in ntfs format..  well one of the partition has windows on it.. but two other partitions has songs on it
[06:39] <zoexii> a|so, mount them, System>administration>disks
[06:39] <pu> thank you zoexii
[06:40] <phyburn> does any one know how to boot into expert mode with the installer CD
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> a|so,  its not mounting them automaticially aparently. You could mount them manually in 'read' only .
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> phyburn,  every time I see 'expert' mode mentioned  - its someone that has done it.. and messed stuff up. :P
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> phyburn,  i think you enter 'expert' at the boot prompt. or smthing.
[06:41] <Orborde> I have an ndiswrapper problem.
[06:41] <Madpilot> phyburn: expert install stuffs up many of the default Ubuntu GUI tools...
[06:41] <limguohong91> When I want to copy 2 files to etc/hotplug/usb it does not allow me. I know it is because of permission. May I know how I can change it?
[06:41] <Orborde> Actually, I'll pastebin it. Stand by
[06:41] <phyburn> Dr_Willis i have no other choice for some reason the dev wanted it so you can not partition your drive if there is already linux on it
[06:42] <a|so> dr wills how do i mount them.. i can see the hard disk.. it shows with all the partitions together but when i click the tab of partition it has the partitions too.. when i press enable it doesnt do anything.. and it doesnt have an access path either..
[06:42] <phyburn> Madpilot: well i need to partition my drive and i cant do it
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> phyburn,  Huh? ive done just that befor I thouight.. during the installer. i alt-ctrl-F2 and fired up fdisk and did wht i wanted I thought.
[06:42] <zoexii> a|so, you have to define the mount directory first,
[06:42] <a|so> well.. erm.. i dont even know what mount is
[06:42] <Orborde> Look at this: http://pastebin.com/450600
[06:42] <a|so> how do i do this
[06:42] <zoexii> create a couple of mount points in /media/ or wherever.
[06:42] <Orborde> Why don't I see a wlan interface?
[06:43] <phyburn> Dr_Willis how would i fire up fdisk just hit alt-ctrl-F2 when the system is starting
[06:43] <zoexii> a|so, a mount point is simply an ordinary folder,
[06:43] <a|so> okay so i just create a folder on the desktop
[06:43] <a|so> and then ?
[06:44] <zoexii> a|so, I would reccomend in /media
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> phyburn,  yea - normally most all text based installers let ya pop over to the other consoles . some times theres logging info or other stuff on them or a shell to do things.
[06:44] <a|so> where is the media ?
[06:44] <a|so> i create a media folder and make an ordinary folder in that ?
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> phyburn, it may be alt-f2 :P i forget.. i hit the keys out of habbit.
[06:44] <Dr_Willis>   /media/
[06:44] <phyburn> kk thanks
[06:45] <zoexii> a|so, no, /media is a folder which already exists in your root directory,
[06:45] <Madpilot> !mount
[06:45] <ubotu> I heard mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[06:45] <a|so> okay am inside media
[06:45] <zoexii> a|so, any cdroms that you might mount appear in this folder as well.  usb drives etc,
[06:45] <a|so> ill just create any folder in that ?
[06:45] <ardchoille> hehe, I love _DarkMind- 's avatar on ubuntuforums
[06:45] <Madpilot> a|so: see ubotu above ^^^
[06:46] <zoexii> a|so, give it a name that makes sense, 'windows' maybe.
[06:46] <Watje> Does anyone knows a good program to manage a tournament (on a lanparty)?
[06:46] <ardchoille> Watje: vim?
[06:47] <Orborde> ardchoille: No, emacs, you miserable troll!
[06:47] <a|so> zoexii, when i went to the media folder and right clicked..it doesnt allow the create new folder option
[06:47] <ardchoille> emacs is a nice OS.. maybe someone will write a good editor for it
[06:47] <Watje> ardchoille, no i want some tournament software
[06:47] <Watje> no text editor :x
[06:47] <a|so> note : am using a live ubuntu cd
[06:48] <zoexii> a|so, open a terminal and type "sudo mkdir /media/windows"
[06:48] <zoexii> a|so, you need superuser priveledges to create folders in /media
[06:48] <a|so> zoexii am sorry to ask this.. but how do i open a terminal.. and how do i get a superuser priviledge.. am the only user on this machine
[06:49] <insipid> man sudo
[06:49] <zoexii> a|so, applications>accessories>terminal
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> insipid,  :P if he cant get to a shell yet.. i think ya are jumping the gun :P
[06:49] <insipid> sorry
[06:49] <ardchoille> a|so: ALT+F2, type gnome-terminal
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> insipid,  but at least the guy is tryign to learn. :P he has potential!
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> http://linuxcommand.org/learning_the_shell.php
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> is a nice looking shell tutorial - i just found.
[06:50] <insipid> Dr_Willis, i think people need to read the linux beginners guide to, its really good for understanding basic command line navigation
[06:50] <Orborde> http://pastebin.com/450608 <- Can anyone take a look at this and tell me if I'm doing something wrong?
[06:51] <a|so> the terminal has already something written on it as ubuntu@ubuntu:-$
[06:51] <a|so> what should i do.. type the one you said below it
[06:51] <ardchoille> insipid: yeah, I just recently learned what "cd -" does
[06:51] <a|so> or erase this one
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> Insecta,  yea - im wondering if there should be some beginner guide links on the default desktop
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> oops.. insipid  i ment. :P
[06:51] <ardchoille> a|so: you can't erase that, that is your prompt
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. actually some links on the live cd - may be a good idea.
[06:52] <Overclocked_486> can anyone help with a quick cron question?
[06:52] <zoexii> a|so, that's the command propt, don't worry about it,
[06:52] <ardchoille> Overclocked_486: I can try
[06:52] <a|so> mm ardchoille, whenever i press enter on that line.. it just repeats itself .. where should i type what you wnated me to paste
[06:52] <insipid> Dr_Willis, yeah people don't really understand what they are getting into, some eye catching documentation would be good for clueless people
[06:52] <zoexii> a|so, just type "sudo mkdir /media/windows" after the '$'
[06:52] <ardchoille> a|so: just type away, it'll show
[06:53] <Madpilot> Dr_Willis: the liveCD - and the default install of Ubuntu - has a Help launcher on the top bar already, actually
[06:53] <insipid> then we can just say "double click the guide"
[06:53] <insipid> =>
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> insipid,  :P good linux book = Not a lot of pictures - but good "outlines" of how things relate.
[06:53] <ardchoille> a|so: the "$" is showing that you are using the term as a user, not root
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> Madpilot,  i thogh that was hte gnome help system
[06:53] <Overclocked_486> ardchoille: I added a shell script to start xmms and have it play to /etc/cron.daily, then added a line in /etc/crontab for it to start at a given time on any day as my regular user.
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> Madpilot,  unless ive just never noticed any other help in there. :P
[06:54] <insipid> Dr_Willis, don't need pictures i mainly ment a guide to the shell, thats all that matters.. not gnome
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> seems that often the 'help' is less then helpfull.  :P
[06:54] <Overclocked_486> ardchoille: Problem is, it made my sound daemon choke.
[06:54] <veryfunny> !mount
[06:54] <ubotu> well, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[06:54] <Overclocked_486> ardchoille: Is there usually a problem with these sorts of tasks conflicting with daemons?
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> insipid,   http://linuxcommand.org/    - seems decently done.
[06:54] <veryfunny> !fstab
[06:54] <ubotu> the /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the winmac_fstab file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab  See <partitions>.
[06:55] <a|so> alright
[06:55] <insipid> Dr_Willis, ill have to check it out then
[06:55] <a|so> i have the foder created
[06:55] <a|so> what should i do now that i have a folder named windows inside.. the  media folder
[06:55] <ardchoille> Overclocked_486: I don't know, I've never tried to start xmms from a cronjob
[06:56] <Overclocked_486> ardchoille: thanks anyways.
[06:56] <zoexii> a|so, set the acess path in disk manager to /media/windows, then click the button
[06:58] <cenopec> hey quick question, i have an external hard drive and i had it working at one point, but now it wont even load it up, do i have to mount it?
[06:58] <cenopec> it would do it automatically before
[06:58] <cenopec> ????
[06:59] <zoexii> cenopec, try mounting it.
[06:59] <Glossary> How can i find out which users are online in a terminal command?
[06:59] <a|so> well it did something and then said that i do not have the permission to view the contents of this folder and dint show me anything
[06:59] <dreamer> glossary.. try the who command
[06:59] <dreamer> type "who"
[07:00] <Glossary> ok thanks
[07:00] <phyburn> what anther command that i can us instead of fdisk
[07:00] <[adw] > Glossary: or type just w
[07:00] <dreamer> without the quotes.. and you can quote me on the quotes unquote
[07:00] <paul__> finally got ubuntu desktop working :)
[07:00] <phyburn> nice
[07:00] <zoexii> !windowsdrives
[07:00] <ubotu> I guess windowsdrives is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[07:01] <Glossary> thanks :)
[07:01] <Glossary> um
[07:01] <dreamer> try my favorite command as well
[07:01] <Glossary> does anybody know a little bit about IRCds?
[07:01] <dreamer> type "fortune"
[07:02] <dreamer> :-p
[07:02] <[adw] > fortune
[07:02] <a|so> how do i get administrative rights ?
[07:02] <[adw] > :-P
[07:02] <ordinary> fortune
[07:02] <a|so> thats whats preventing me
[07:02] <dabaR> phyburn: what other command that would do what? there are a lot of commands you could use, depending on what you would like done.
[07:02] <a|so> how come they put me as some punee person when am the only user
[07:02] <frogzoo> !tell a|so about sudo
[07:02] <Glossary> lol
[07:02] <dabaR> a|so: does the drive get mounted on boot?
[07:02] <Glossary> ok how many processes can i run ??? ircds ..
[07:02] <zoexii> a|so, you should be able to browse the volume as super-user... I don't know if nautilus can be run as root,
[07:03] <dreamer> they put you as "puny" user so you dont get in trouble as root
[07:03] <phyburn> im trying to partition my disk dabaR but fdisk keeps tell me unable to read /dev/hda
[07:03] <Glossary> how can i logout a user using Terminal ??
[07:03] <Toma-> Glossary: exit
[07:03] <Glossary> exit ?
[07:03] <Glossary> if im not using that user
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> 'kill' their processes if you are refering to killing some OTHER users and making them logout.
[07:03] <frogzoo> Glossary: Id guess 2^32 on a 32 bit system
[07:03] <Toma-> or you mean konsole or gnome-terminal?
[07:03] <Glossary> if the other user is on Telnel or smth
[07:03] <dabaR> Glossary: you would have to kill his process. are you the admin of the system?
[07:03] <Toma-> oic
[07:04] <Glossary> yea i am
[07:04] <a|so> zoexii how do i become super ?
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> ps ax | grep (some pattern to find the user)
[07:04] <frogzoo> a|so: please read prior link
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> or does ps have a  user optin? never noticed.
[07:04] <insipid> *sighs* i really don't want to to compile my own kernel...
[07:05] <Glossary> dabaR, and how to kill the process?
[07:05] <dabaR> Glossary: sudo ps -u <userName>, then, either sudo kill -9 PID for his login, or post the output of the ps -u command to paste.ubuntulinux.nl and i will tell you the exact commmand.
[07:05] <frogzoo> dabaR you dont need sudo for ps - just btw
[07:05] <zoexii> a|so, try this: applications>systemtools>run as different user   then run 'nautilus' as root,
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> soululdent ya use just 'kill pid' to kill them nicely first. :P then -9 if they dont die that way.
[07:06] <linux_newb> im trying to install something, i need to switch to the directory the file is in how do i do that
[07:06] <zoexii> a|so, you should be able to browse the partition then,
[07:06] <whyameye> I can't get resume to work after a suspend to disk. Is there a log created somewhere on the disk that I could look at to try to troubleshoot?
[07:06] <Delvien> anyone have some experience with wifi here?
[07:06] <Glossary> dabaR,  8319 ?        00:00:07 x-session-manag
[07:06] <frogzoo> linux_newb: 'cd DIRECTORY'
[07:06] <dabaR> frogzoo: ok, thanks.
[07:06] <Glossary> is it kill -9 8319 ?
[07:06] <linux_newb> oh thats it i remember now ty:P
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> sudo kill 8319
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> then if it dont die.. try it with -9
[07:06] <dabaR> is he logged into the console and you are trying to kill this remotely, Glossary ?
[07:06] <frogzoo> Glossary: best to try kill -TERM first, kill -9 is not really recdd
[07:07] <Glossary> yea remotely
[07:07] <zoexii> a|so, in any case, this is a pretty half-assed solution, you should read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions if you want to have the partition mounted automatically
[07:07] <dabaR> weird, everybody knows how to use Unix all the sudden.
[07:08] <dreamer> whats unix?
[07:08] <zoexii> !unix
[07:08] <ubotu> zoexii: Wish i knew
[07:08] <frogzoo> dreamer: unix is a Linux clone
[07:08] <dabaR> a|so: is the drive mounted at boot?
[07:08] <dabaR> dreamer: whatever, that is where those commands came from.
[07:08] <Glossary> :P
[07:08] <dreamer> ha ha
[07:09] <linux_newb> im trying to install a rpm package and it tells me to use alien, whats that
[07:09] <dreamer> unix isnt a problem.. i wish i knew how to work IRC
[07:09] <dabaR> linux_newb: what are you installing?>
[07:09] <linux_newb> gyach enhanced
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> irc needs a good chat program. :P
[07:09] <skple> xchat!
[07:10] <dreamer> bitchx
[07:10] <jsgotangco> irssi!
[07:10] <[adw] > irssi
[07:10] <dabaR> dreamer: youre such a hardcore one, eh?:P
[07:10] <Shadowpillar> xchat
[07:10] <Shadowpillar> wait
[07:10] <Shadowpillar> MIRC
[07:10] <Shadowpillar> :D
[07:10] <zoexii> ircII
[07:10] <linux_newb> irc = multiplayer notepad
[07:10] <dreamer> ha ha
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> i rember some 'telnet' feature in mIRC :P so i could telnet into my linux box and run irssi :P
[07:11] <Shadowpillar> BACK IN MAH DAY, WE USED TELNET AND LIKED IT
[07:11] <skple> can someone tell me how to change the close window button?
[07:11] <frogzoo> linux_newb: RPMs don't work on ubuntu - find a .deb
[07:11] <linux_newb> ok..
[07:11] <Shadowpillar> we telnetted to port 104 on ircnet.
[07:11] <linux_newb> will bz2 files work
[07:11] <Glossary> ok WHO isnt showing me the other user who's online and connected thru SSH
[07:11] <zoexii> skple, change it how? system>prefs>themes probably....
[07:11] <dreamer> you mean ubuntu isnt redhat?
[07:11] <Shadowpillar> nowadays these kids and their xchats and mircs and ircII's
[07:11] <dreamer> :-X
[07:11] <Shadowpillar> Glossary, w
[07:11] <Shadowpillar> Glossary, type w
[07:12] <Glossary> Shadowline, w doesnt show anything also
[07:12] <dreamer> i use xchat.. im not much of an IRC junkie
[07:12] <damnhil> I just found a serious security hole in ubunut
[07:12] <frogzoo> dreamer: strange but true - ubuntu is not redhat - only the names have been changed to protect the guilty
[07:12] <Glossary> it shows me only!
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> skple,  just the onebutton? or the whole theme/look? theres several theme settings ya can play with
[07:12] <a|so> mmm when i go back to the disks and browse from there.. i can access..
[07:12] <Shadowpillar> damnhil, was it the glitch I found which killed my system? :(
[07:12] <dabaR> Glossary: it would be shown.
[07:12] <Glossary> well its not :S
[07:12] <a|so> i already got a user with executive powers..but from the one in the desktop i cant view the files as i dont have the permission..
[07:12] <Shadowpillar> with reiserfs
[07:12] <a|so> but from the system.. disks i can
[07:13] <damnhil> Shadowpillar: you can do ls /root as a normal user
[07:13] <Shadowpillar> put a ' in the docs location field when running checkinstall
[07:13] <Shadowpillar> BAM
[07:13] <Shadowpillar> kills the system
[07:13] <skple> dr_willis: no matter which theme i use i get the same ugly red arrow for my close window button, and i would like to change it.
[07:13] <Shadowpillar> all the permissions on disk are utterly fucked.
[07:13] <insipid> man.. 1280X1024 looks like 800X600 in gnome..
[07:14] <insipid> uugly :O
[07:14] <Shadowpillar> pardon my language
[07:14] <Shadowpillar> they exist
[07:14] <Shadowpillar> but they dont at the same time
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> skple,  try the theme control panel thing and play with under 'theme details' - sounds like youmay have a messed up file.. i see none with red arrows.
[07:14] <Shadowpillar> it's got me baffled.
[07:14] <insomnd> is it hard to build debian packages?
[07:14] <skple> Dr_Willis, are you using hoary hedgehog?
[07:14] <dabaR> skple: is it the X in the top right?
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> skple,  may want to take a screen shot and post it somehwere for us to look at.
[07:15] <skple> dabar: no, it is the one that appears on tabs
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> skple,  using 5.10 - I dont go by the silly names.
[07:15] <linux_newb> ok.. somewhere i heard that i can convert these rpm files to deb... does anybody know about doing that?
[07:15] <dabaR> skple: paste.ubuntulinux.nl can take postings of pictures.
[07:15] <skple> Dr_Willis, alright, screenshot it is
[07:15] <damnhil> Why does ubuntu allow normal user to see /root ?
[07:15] <insipid> the kernel handles memory rather well...
[07:15] <dabaR> in the right of the tabs themselves? in what prgram?
[07:15] <frogzoo> linux_newb: best dont go that direction until you really know what you're doing
[07:15] <Madpilot> damnhil: it's read-only
[07:15] <linux_newb> ok:D
[07:16] <frank23> linux_newb: you can use alien to convert from rpm to deb but why don you just use Xchat
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> plus theres not much in /root
[07:16] <linux_newb> i'll stick with gaim for now then
[07:16] <dabaR> insomnd: search for debian new maintainers guide on google.
[07:16] <a|so> mm now i tried to play a file..and it says that there are no decoders..and i need to install pluggins to play muisc files
[07:16] <linux_newb> i wanted gyach for yahoo..
[07:16] <a|so> what should i do..where do i get an auto bundle or something
[07:16] <crimsun> damnhil: hiding things in /root buys you nothing.
[07:16] <skple> dabaR, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/i5448
[07:16] <skple> oops
[07:16] <skple> forgive
[07:16] <frank23> linux_newb: for yahoo's chat rooms?
[07:16] <zoexii> !mp3
[07:16] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:17] <Glossary> 08:16:29 up 7 days, 18:39,  2 users,  load average: 0.35, 0.27, 0.24
[07:17] <Glossary> Doesnt actually show the 2 users!
[07:17] <linux_newb> yes frank
[07:17] <Glossary> shows only me
[07:17] <Glossary> :S
[07:17] <Glossary> Why
[07:17] <dabaR> Glossary: root user.
[07:17] <evan_> no!
[07:17] <zoexii> a|so, follow the above link, it will tell you how to get mp3 support
[07:17] <frogzoo> crimsun: a world executable /root does appear interesting - would be better not
[07:17] <skple> Dabar: it is the little ugly red arrow that appears on the tabs in xchat, and in gaim, on the tab
[07:17] <frank23> linux_newb: I never went to those chat rooms. does Gaim work for that?
[07:17] <Shadowpillar> apt-get install libmad
[07:17] <Glossary> dabaR, what?
[07:17] <dabaR> well, we shall take a look now.
[07:18] <linux_newb> gaim works for that but i have heard that gyach e in alot better
[07:18] <dabaR> Glossary: the root user is also logged in, but not shown under w who, and so on.
[07:18] <dabaR> Glossary: or even if you log in twice.
[07:19] <Glossary> dabaR, a friend of mine is connected to his USERname on MY PC through SSH...! i cant see him only why ???
[07:19] <zoexii> !ubotu
[07:19] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[07:19] <frogzoo> Glossary: who ?
[07:19] <linux_newb> ubotu is my friend:D
[07:19] <ubotu> linux_newb: What?
[07:19] <Glossary> frogzoo, who what?
[07:19] <frogzoo> Glossary: does this guy show if you run 'who' ?
[07:20] <linux_newb> is xmms the best mp3 player
[07:20] <Glossary> frogzoo, no...
[07:20] <dabaR> Glossary: II doubt that sentence, and have no answer.
[07:20] <skple> dabaR, do you see it
[07:20] <Glossary> dabaR, what man?
[07:20] <Toma-> linux_newb: no :(
[07:20] <dabaR> linux_newb: it is one of them. if it was the best, everyone would use just that one, and no others would be worth developing.
[07:20] <alekz> how can i remove gnome-pty-helper process ?
[07:20] <dabaR> skple: no, it looks normal, like mine. a red x.
[07:21] <Shadowpillar> linux_newb, you're asking a matter of opinion, I'd say beep-media-player has it beat because it has more modern features, bmpx, once it hits a stable build, will rock the foundation xmms is on
[07:21] <skple> dabaR, show me yours.
[07:21] <Shadowpillar> I hear amarok is good too
[07:21] <skple> i wish there was a player like amarok for gnome.
[07:21] <dabaR> skple: I am remotely logged into my computer.
[07:21] <dpupp> how do i find the path to mplayer ?
[07:21] <dabaR> which mplayer
[07:21] <xspades> which g(mplayer)
[07:21] <zoexii> skple, it runs on gnome,
[07:22] <dpupp> im configuring an xmms plugin, which allows display of video using mplayer...
[07:22] <skple> zoexii, yeah, but it never looks rigth
[07:22] <zoexii> skple, just check it off in synaptic, it will take care of all the kde dependancies
[07:22] <frogzoo> dpupp: or 'locate mplayer' if it not in your current path
[07:22] <dpupp> ok
[07:22] <Toma-> make that "locate mplayer | grep bin"
[07:23] <dpupp> thanks!
[07:23] <Glossary> dabaR, i didnt get your last message!
[07:23] <dabaR> meh, thats for normal files, for binaries, programs, you use which.
[07:23] <insipid> wow ubuntu detects printers too.. amazing
[07:23] <skple> dabaR, so you do not know of a way to change that bitmap, or whatever it is?
[07:23] <insipid> :)
[07:23] <dabaR> skple: exactly.
[07:24] <dabaR> Glossary: I did not send one. I do not think there is someone logged in if he is not shown by who.
[07:24] <dpupp> Awesome! slowly xmms player is becoming my defaul.
[07:24] <Glossary> but dabaR im sure he's in.. he pasted me the whole thing that he's connected
[07:24] <Glossary> and changed the password and done some things etc..
[07:24] <nicholasw> Hello!
[07:24] <Overclocked_486> can anyone help me with a cronjob problem? a working shell script isn't executing.
[07:24] <skple> hi
[07:25] <Glossary> he's not on the same PC as I am.. he's home but connected to his account ont his pc using ssh
[07:25] <skple> does anyone else know how to change  the close tab graphic?
[07:25] <dabaR> Glossary: no. I do not believe that. I am not a subject matter expert or anything, but afaik that is impossible to mask yourself like that. try this. "sudo ps aux" and read through the output. if you don't see his username, he is lying:)
[07:25] <Toma-> skple: for what app?
[07:26] <Overclocked_486> can anyone help me with a cronjob problem? a working shell script isn't executing.
[07:26] <Glossary> ok just a sec
[07:26] <dabaR> Glossary: make sure, using "hostname" that you are both logged into the same machine. would not be the first time it happened.
[07:26] <Glossary> dabaR, yea i see his username!
[07:27] <Glossary> but its not appearing in the who! or w!
[07:28] <dabaR> Glossary: ok, you solved your problem. turns out my information was wrong.
[07:28] <Glossary> dabaR, so its sudo ps aux??
[07:28] <skple> toma: for all apps, it appears in both xchat and gaim
[07:28] <skple> can someone tell me what to do if no engine appears in the amrok configuration options?
[07:29] <Toma-> oh that one
[07:29] <linux_newb> how do i mount a ntfs drive
[07:29] <Overclocked_486> hey, can anyone help me with a cronjob problem? a working shell script isn't executing.
[07:30] <Locke> anyone know what port 6881 is?
[07:30] <Glossary> dabaR,
[07:30] <Glossary> n3tki    25941  0.0  0.3   6284  2032 ?        S    08:11   0:00 sshd: n3tki@pts
[07:30] <Glossary> n3tki    25943  0.0  0.3   4632  2016 pts/2    Ss+  08:11   0:00 -bash
[07:30] <Glossary> what should i kill here?
[07:31] <Overclocked_486> Locke: Bittorrent, AFAIk
[07:31] <Toma-> skple: find your icon theme directory, openup the size youre at and open the gtk folder. then edit/change the gtk-icon.png to what you want
[07:31] <frogzoo> Locke: grep 6881 /etc/services ?
[07:31] <dabaR> Glossary: first one.
[07:31] <sagarp> how can i get firefox to stop using totem and just use mplayer??
[07:31] <Locke> overclocked_486: pose any security problems to my firewall if i open it?
[07:32] <skple> toma: thank you
[07:32] <Toma-> no prob
[07:32] <Overclocked_486> Locke: It shouldn't any more than another port.
[07:32] <Glossary> okay thx
[07:32] <frank23> Locke: you appart from possible legal problems? ;-)
[07:32] <Overclocked_486> Locke: It's less well known than 80 or 21, for examle.
[07:32] <Overclocked_486> *example
[07:32] <dabaR> sagarp: it may be an option in  "about:config" in the address bar. Did you check the forums on this one? Did you install the mplayer plugin?
[07:32] <Overclocked_486> locke: Why would you need it open?
[07:33] <linux_newb> how can i see my ntfs primary slave drive in ubuntu
[07:33] <Shadowpillar> sagarp, hrmm... mplayer plugin.. but I'd suggest installing the totem-xine package.
[07:33] <frogzoo> Locke: as far as IANA know, 6881 is unregistered
[07:33] <Locke> overclocked_486: bittorrent won't connect
[07:33] <insipid> Anyone here know how to make the menu's scaled smaller in gnome?
[07:33] <Overclocked_486> Locke: Ah.
[07:33] <Amaranth> insipid: Do you like C? :)
[07:33] <Glossary> dabaR, ok one more question
[07:33] <DjKritical> Does anyone know a decent gnutella client for Ubunut
[07:33] <Shadowpillar> sagarp, as you can get the same results as mplayer
[07:33] <Glossary> if he uploads and runs an IRCd deamon would it still work if im already running on the same machine IP ??
[07:33] <skple> does anyone know the url of the mozilla extension that lets you play mpegs and such?
[07:33] <starscalling> im baaaaaaaaack .:P
[07:34] <Overclocked_486> can anyone help me with a cron problem?
[07:34] <Shadowpillar> sagarp, the default totem-gstreamer is garbage, as is most of gstreamer
[07:34] <insipid> Amaranth, yes, im not touchign the source :)
[07:34] <frogzoo> Overclocked_486: wassup? just state your problem
[07:34] <Shadowpillar> atm, gstreamer is better for nothing more than playing little sound effects
[07:34] <paul__> what is the best/easiest way to install the nvida drive for a 6800 gefore?
[07:34] <deFrysk> Shadowpillar, hello ?
[07:34] <Amaranth> Shadowpillar: gstreamer 0.10 is awesome
[07:34] <frank23> skple: extension: mediaplayerconnectivity ?
[07:34] <deFrysk> garbage ?
[07:34] <paul__> there seems to be multiple methods..
[07:34] <frogzoo> !tell paul__ about nvidia
[07:34] <insipid> Amaranth, i mean hell im running 1028X1024 and the widgets are MASSIVE like 800X600 feel to them
[07:34] <Glossary> *running one..
[07:34] <insipid> 1280
[07:35] <Overclocked_486> frogzoo: throwing sh /etc/cron.daily/alarm.sh works just fine, but when I add it into /etc/crontab it won't execute
[07:35] <Shadowpillar> from my experience, gstreamer doesnt play nice with dvd's
[07:35] <paradoxium> linux_newb:  it's in the starter guide on the ubuntu wiki
[07:35] <Amaranth> insipid: err, the applications menu uses 22x22 or 24x24 icons, they aren't that big
[07:35] <linux_newb> !tell linux_newb about ntfs
[07:35] <sagarp> dabaR,shadowpillar, i tried about:config, i didnt find anything, and i cant find any info in forms...nothing i try works...some file types are associated with mplayer, some with totem...i tried using mozplugger, and changing mime types, nothign seems to work
[07:35] <Shadowpillar> or a lot of movie formats
[07:35] <linux_newb> :D
[07:35] <frogzoo> Overclocked_486: its probably crapping out from output - try adding in the crontab '> /dev/null 2>&1'
[07:36] <Glossary> dabaR,  if he uploads and runs an IRCd deamon would it still work if im already running one the same machine IP ??
[07:36] <Shadowpillar> sagarp, apt-get install totem-xine and install the w32codecs package
[07:36] <sagarp> shadowpillar, i use totem-xine..most of the time when firefox has a video embedded, it crashes when i close that window..this is why i want to try to see if that happens with mplayer
[07:36] <deFrysk> sagarp, if you are sure you'll never use the totem-pluging, remove the referring plugins from /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[07:36] <Shadowpillar> sagarp, odd, I dont have that issue
[07:36] <insipid> Amaranth, my desktop in 1280X1024 gets packed up quicker than me 800X600 by FAT windows BIG menus and UGLY widgets
[07:37] <Amaranth> insipid: It sounds like you've got a configuration problem.
[07:37] <Amaranth> insipid: Try changing your theme.
[07:37] <Overclocked_486> frogzoo: So if I want it to execute every day at, say, noon, the line should read "0 12 * * * root sh /etc/cron.daily/alarm.sh >/dev/null 2>&1"?
[07:37] <dabaR> sagarp: I had 2 other questions.
[07:37] <kumakun> Hey, real quick question. what's the standard port that ssh uses?
[07:37] <frogzoo> insipid: change your theme - the OS X ports are nice
[07:37] <Shadowpillar> Amaranth, wanna hear my prob? you'll love this one.
[07:37] <dabaR> DjKritical: `did you get an answer? gtk-gnutella is what I use.
[07:37] <Shadowpillar> Amaranth, I was making a package via checkinstall
[07:37] <frogzoo> kumakun: grep ssh /etc/services
[07:37] <insipid> Amaranth, changin the theme just changes the buttons and colors
[07:37] <sagarp> dabaR, i do have the mplayer plugin installed, as some files play with mplayer, and some play with totem
[07:37] <Glossary> dabaR, you still here man?
[07:37] <skple> can someone tell me why no sound comes out when i try to play an audio file with amarok, even though the song is playing?
[07:38] <themuffenmann> gtk-gnutella is pretty good
[07:38] <Overclocked_486> frogzoo: I'm trying to get xmms to play in the morning to wake me up.
[07:38] <themuffenmann> thats whut i use
[07:38] <Shadowpillar> Amaranth, stop it because I put in some bad data, suddenly, my ENTIRE system's permissions were quite screwed.
[07:38] <Amaranth> Shadowpillar: I heard that one, my answer is fdisk. :P
[07:38] <dabaR> insipid: use a different WM. openbox nicely rolls up windows using hte scroll wheel of the mouse, has no panels, and no desktop.
[07:38] <dreamer> whats a good book for linux noob?
[07:38] <Amaranth> insipid: Ok, try the fonts caplet.
[07:38] <Shadowpillar> Amaranth, what good will that do?
[07:38] <themuffenmann> Fluxbox is good too
[07:38] <insipid> i like fluxbox
[07:38] <dabaR> sagarp: inside firefox some play in totem, some in mmplayer?
[07:38] <insipid> im thinking about ditching the desktop.. its pretty lame
[07:39] <dabaR> !books
[07:39] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, books is http://www.debian.org/doc/books - Debian, and http://www.nl.debian.org/doc/manuals/book-suggestions/ - Linux
[07:39] <Amaranth> Shadowpillar: It'll wipe the system.
[07:39] <sagarp> dabaR,  yes, it's based on the mime types..i dont remember which exactly but some are set to play with totem, some with mplayer, and when i cahgne the mime.conf file ro wahtever it doesnt work
[07:39] <skple> does anyone know the url of the mozilla extension that lets you play mpegs and such?
[07:39] <themuffenmann> i have Ubuntu on a 20 GB partition with GNOME and Fluxbox then Slackware on another 20GB partition
[07:39] <themuffenmann> good shit
[07:39] <insipid> gnome is just so hideous id rather look at a blank screen with a right0click menu
[07:39] <a|so> alriht its extracting i think..
[07:39] <whyameye> what does it mean if the IDE device for the ACPI handler is NULL? I get this when trying to resume from hibernation. Then the machine freezes....
[07:39] <frank23> skple: extension: mediaplayerconnectivity ?
[07:39] <Shadowpillar> Amaranth, ho ho. do you think the permissions prob is on the filesystem level?
[07:39] <skple> i liek gnome
[07:39] <frogzoo> skple: gxine methinks?
[07:39] <kumakun> frogzoo: Thanks
[07:40] <Shadowpillar> Amaranth, like the permissions table or something got messed up but fsck cant see it?
[07:40] <dreamer> i like kde
[07:40] <themuffenmann> any other GTK themers in the house?
[07:40] <Amaranth> Shadowpillar: I think you could spend a month fixing it by hand or spend 20 minutes reinstalling.
[07:40] <dreamer> enlightenment is pretty nice too
[07:40] <dabaR> ubotu: no, books is http:://www.debian.org/doc/books - Debian, and http://www.nl.debian.org/doc/manuals/book-suggestions/ - GNU/Linux
[07:40] <ubotu> okay, dabaR
[07:40] <Amaranth> Shadowpillar: No, it's at the chmod level.
[07:40] <Shadowpillar> Amaranth, it isnt
[07:40] <Shadowpillar> Amaranth, trust me
[07:40] <Shadowpillar> Amaranth, the permissions are the same
[07:40] <frogzoo> themuffenmann: install the gnome art manager 'gnome-art'  ?
[07:40] <Glossary> dabaR,  if he uploads and runs an IRCd deamon would it still work if im already running one the same machine IP ??
[07:40] <themuffenmann> frog..what do you mean?
[07:40] <Amaranth> Glossary: no
[07:41] <Amaranth> Glossary: unless you run his on a different port
[07:41] <insipid> Amaranth, fonts are at 10
[07:41] <Shadowpillar> Amaranth, they're the same as they were before
[07:41] <harry_potter> hi
[07:41] <Amaranth> insipid, Shadowpillar: I have no idea.
[07:41] <Shadowpillar> Amaranth, and havent been modified, that's what's mindblowing
[07:41] <Shadowpillar> I think it's reiserfs
[07:41] <Glossary> Amaranth, thanks.. but its not such a smart idea to run to ircds on a same ip then is it?!
[07:41] <Overclocked_486> frogzoo: no dice. xmms still won't come up.
[07:41] <Shadowpillar> gonna go back to ext3
[07:41] <Shadowpillar> used ext3 for 3 years and never had a prob
[07:41] <Amaranth> Glossary: It's usually not a good idea to run one at all.
[07:42] <Shadowpillar> used reiser for a few months and bam
[07:42] <Glossary> Amaranth, why not?
[07:42] <Amaranth> Glossary: Unless it's needed for something.
[07:42] <Glossary> well yea it is..
[07:42] <dabaR> sagarp: did you search the forums? the totem plugin is located at /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libtotemSomething. if you rename it, it wont be used to play movies any more. I personally thinnk that if you bloat your programs too much(like using a browwser to view movies) it will crash more often.
[07:42] <Amaranth> Glossary: some script kiddie using your irc server for his zombie bots to connect to
[07:42] <insipid> Amaranth, woah subpixel smoothing helped
[07:42] <nrdb> Hi I am trying to use OpenOfficeBase, but none of the wizards are working, anyone know why?
[07:43] <Glossary> Amaranth, no no im just testing something and then im removing him
[07:43] <insipid> i can read the stuff alot better
[07:43] <paul__> how can i tell if i'm running i386 or i686? uname -r states 2.6.12.9-amd64-generic
[07:44] <Overclocked_486> paul__: You'd be running an A64
[07:44] <Amaranth> paul__: You're running either a pentium 4 EMT64 or an Athlon or Opteron AMD64
[07:44] <paul__> yeah
[07:44] <frogzoo> Overclocked_486: maybe try writing the log somewhere - '> /tmp/xxx 2>&1'
[07:44] <Amaranth> paul__: which is it?
[07:44] <jwaldon> good afternoon ubuntu's minions :)
[07:44] <paul__> but that doesnt help in terms of choosing between linux-restricted-modules-386 (or linux-restricted-modules-686
[07:44] <paul__> its an X2 4000 amd chip.
[07:44] <Amaranth> paul__: You need to install the x86 version of Ubuntu.
[07:44] <Glossary> and Amaranth  or dabaR could the user connected to my PC see my FILES? or only his dir????
[07:45] <Orborde> paul__: There should be a linux-restricted-modules-amd64 ...?
[07:45] <Overclocked_486> frogzoo: The line should read "0 12 * * * root sh /etc/cron.daily/alarm.sh >>/dev/null 2>&1 > /tmp/xxx 2>&1"?
[07:45] <Amaranth> Glossary: depends on your permission setup
[07:45] <Amaranth> Glossary: by default, yes
[07:45] <Glossary> Amaranth, how can i limit that??
[07:45] <Amaranth> Glossary: If you're worried about that don't let people on your system.
[07:45] <nrdb> paul__: have you tried "cat /etc/cpuinfo"
[07:45] <Glossary> but i need to know how to limit it.. can you please tell me?
[07:46] <paul__> yeah, its /proc/
[07:47] <nrdb> I am looking for some tutorials on using OpenOfficeBase...
[07:47] <Glossary> Amaranth, please tell me how
[07:47] <Amaranth> Glossary: I don't remember exactly.
[07:47] <frogzoo> Overclocked_486: imo, should read "0 12 * * * /etc/cron.daily/alarm.sh > /tmp/xxx 2>&1"
[07:47] <dabaR> Glossary: a user on the system can see all files on the system that are readable to him. in all folders that are executable by him.
[07:47] <Overclocked_486> frogzoo: I'll try that.
[07:47] <Glossary> dabaR, you know how i can limit it to see only his directory?? (and are my files editable for him????)
[07:48] <nrdb> paul__: sorry about that your right there.
[07:48] <frogzoo> Overclocked_486: that script should start with "#!/bin/sh" btw
[07:48] <Overclocked_486> it does.
[07:48] <Overclocked_486> wait...
[07:48] <Overclocked_486> no, it's /usr/bin/sh. will that make a difference?
[07:49] <chorse> Overclocked_486, sure.
[07:49] <nrdb> Overclocked_486: what does "which sh" return
[07:49] <frogzoo> Overclocked_486: dunno - 'which sh' should give the correct path
[07:49] <Overclocked_486> yeah, bin/sh.
[07:49] <Overclocked_486> dag
[07:49] <Glossary> dabaR,  ???
[07:50] <nrdb> Hi I am trying to use OpenOfficeBase, but none of the wizards are working, anyone know why?
[07:50] <whyameye> in general, do people have suspend to disk working in Breezy?
[07:50] <dabaR> Glossary: look, if you do an annoying thing like that once more, I wont answwer any of your questions. you are more impatient than most people I work this with _for_ money.
[07:50] <Overclocked_486> !/usr/bin/sh changed to !/bin/sh
[07:50] <ubotu> Overclocked_486: I haven't a clue
[07:50] <Overclocked_486> *drumroll*
[07:51] <dabaR> Glossary: read this http://zernike.uwinnipeg.ca/~s_liao/Courses/2941/Week05.pdf
[07:51] <chorse> nrdb, there aren't many tutorials at this time, did you read the official docs?
[07:51] <Glossary> dabaR, well im sorry but i thought you didnt see the message or smth
[07:51] <dabaR> Glossary: just be patient, I am looking around for material for you.
[07:51] <dabaR> Glossary: around the end of that file permissions on *nix systems are explained.
[07:51] <Amaranth> Glossary: I _think_ chmod 701 /home/<user> will hide /home/<user> from other users
[07:51] <Glossary> dabaR, okay man thanks, but pdf dont open here..
[07:51] <nrdb> chorse: I haven't been able to find much at all.  where are the offical docs?
[07:52] <chorse> nrdb: just click on the Help button in OO.o
[07:52] <chorse> nrdb, else this is a nice base+mysql tutorial, http://www.bsdgangster.org/modules.php?name=Content&file=viewarticle&id=10
[07:53] <insipid> aw hell i just found some spyware for linux... punkbuster
[07:53] <kwtm1> From the command line, how does one get a list of packages or look for a package?  I tried "dpkg -l MyPackageName", but that seems to yield no results whereas using Adept or Kynaptic shows the package name clearly listed.
[07:53] <dabaR> Glossary: read it when you have time. to make files unreadable by anyone but yourself, "chmod 700 filename" if it is an executable file, and chmod 600 filename if it is not an executable. "man chmod" for more details.
[07:53] <nrdb> chorse: I found one of to do with base_mysql and all that went into was how to set it up, nothing to do with using it.
[07:54] <chorse> nrdb, well base is quite new
[07:54] <Overclocked_486> man, this is annoying.
[07:54] <Glossary> hum thanks
[07:55] <nrdb> chorse: Yes!  Do you know why none of the wizards are working?
[07:55] <linux_newb> how can i see my 2nd HDD in linux its ntfs
[07:55] <dabaR> !mountwindows
[07:55] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[07:55] <linux_newb> ty
[07:55] <chorse> nrdb, mh, ubuntu package?
[07:56] <nrdb> linux_newb: As far as I know all you can do with ntfs is read.
[07:56] <dabaR> heh, if you wish to die a slow and painful death, press here.
[07:56] <linux_newb> nrdb: yeah it sux eh:P
[07:56] <dabaR> ntfs does suck, yes.
[07:56] <nrdb> chorse: Yes, just install and updated kubuntu.
[07:56] <linux_newb> he he
[07:57] <chorse> nrdb, what happens if you try a wiz?
[07:57] <nrdb> chorse: Abosutly nothing, no warning/errors/or anything.
[07:57] <dabaR> Amaranth: the thing with just making your home folder x is that if a user somehoww finds out an exact filename there, he can read it if it is readable.
[07:58] <dabaR> Amaranth: 701 is sometimes used for apache to be able to access your public
[07:58] <win> #kediri
[07:58] <Amaranth> dabaR: Of course, but there isn't much else you can do unless you chmod everything in there by hand.
[07:58] <dabaR> public_html folder.
[07:58] <Amaranth> dabaR: Yeah, that's why I use it.
[07:58] <dabaR> Amaranth: dont even allow x would work.
[07:58] <dabaR> it would be off limits.
[07:59] <dabaR> Amaranth: its funny, a lot of the profs at my U dont understand permissions, so they have pr0n files in their Unix accounts:)
[07:59] <fatehaze> I'm running stock Ubuntu but my login screen says Edubuntu... is there a way to change it?
[08:00] <dabaR> install ubuntu-desktop should do it.
[08:00] <chorse> nrdb, mh, the version shipped with ubuntu is a 2.0 prerelease. perhaps you may want to try the openoffice package from openoffice.org if it's working there
[08:00] <fatehaze> Phat, thanks :)
[08:01] <dabaR> I like edubuntu.
[08:01] <dabaR> it has nice icons
[08:01] <fatehaze> Hmm, too few arguments for "install ubuntu-desktop"
[08:01] <chorse> fatehaze, apt-get install
[08:01] <fatehaze> Edubuntu is nice and all, I just don't know why my startup screen says it
[08:02] <fatehaze> Ah, thanks :D
[08:02] <a|so> mm am gonna sleep now its 7:02 am
[08:02] <a|so> thnx for everything
[08:02] <dabaR> fatehaze: it was not a command, it was a conceptual thing, install the ubuntu-desktop package with your favorite installation program.
[08:02] <a|so> take care people
[08:02] <fatehaze> Hehe, gotcha
[08:02] <Overclocked_486> can anyone give me an example of a working cron job?
[08:03] <fatehaze> Can I customize the login screen to my liking?
[08:04] <nrdb> Overclocked_486: cron jobs are just standard scripts, cron just executes the script at set intervals.
[08:04] <bluefoxicy> I hope thunderbird 1.5 is packaged in dapper
[08:04] <bluefoxicy> it uses 26 megs of memory
[08:04] <bluefoxicy> 1.0.7 uses like 60 @.@
[08:04] <Overclocked_486> nrdb: But my script works. Cron seemingly won't execute it.
[08:05] <nrdb> Overclocked_486: you have to be carefull of permissions, it is executed as root I beleave.
[08:06] <dabaR> fatehaze: it is called the gdm login screen, it is customizable under System>Prefs, or System>Admin more likely.
[08:06] <fatehaze> Awesome, thanks again
[08:06] <nrdb> Overclocked_486: its been a while since I done anything with cron and that wasn't on ubuntu.
[08:06] <Overclocked_486> nrdb: hmm... I can execute it as myself using sh and it's owner is root...
[08:06] <rob_p> Overclocked_486:  Could you paste your script to the pastebin?  Maybe someone could help if they saw it.
[08:07] <whyameye> anybody have hibernate working in Breezy?
[08:07] <Overclocked_486> #!/bin/sh
[08:07] <Overclocked_486> 
[08:07] <Overclocked_486> xmms --play
[08:07] <rob_p> !pastebin
[08:07] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[08:07] <Overclocked_486> that's it
[08:07] <nrdb> Overclocked_486: has it got the shebag line "#~/bin/sh" at the top?
[08:07] <dpupp> speaking of customizing screens, is it possible to customize the screen where things display as: loading this.....OK (what is the name of that screen?)
[08:07] <Overclocked_486> #!/bin/sh
[08:07] <nrdb> Overclocked_486: thats "#!/bin/sh" at the top?
[08:08] <Overclocked_486> nrdb: yes
[08:08] <linukso> Overclocked_486: try setting the full path to xmms in the script.
[08:08] <nrdb> Overclocked_486: can't help much, maybe try a very simple script in its place just to test the cron timing.
[08:09] <rob_p> Overclocked_486:  What does your cron entry look like?
[08:09] <nrdb> Overclocked_486: echo the date to a file or something.
[08:09] <kyncani> Overclocked_486: you want to start xmms from a cron job ?
[08:09] <allison_1984> what is the command line to uninstall an application ? :)
[08:09] <cenopec> anyone know how to mount an external hard drive
[08:09] <cenopec> usb
[08:09] <dabaR> dpupp: the gnome splash screen that loads the panel, desktop and that?
[08:10] <kyncani> allison_1984: apt-get
[08:10] <dpupp> dabaR, not sure... its the one that comes after grub...
[08:10] <dabaR> allison_1984: why use commands?. there is a nice gui program for that. would you like a command, or a walkthrough of using the GUI?
[08:10] <linukso> allison_1984: suod aptitude remove <app>
[08:10] <Overclocked_486> rob_p: 55 6    * * *   overclocked     sh /etc/cron.daily/alarum.sh
[08:10] <allison_1984> kyncani > thats all ?
[08:10] <nrdb> Overclocked_486: "52 6    1 * *   root    test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report /etc/cron.monthly" everything after the 'root' is the command to run.
[08:10] <kyncani> allison_1984: apt-get is the tool. man apt-get for details how to use it
[08:10] <nrdb> Overclocked_486: got to go now bye!
[08:10] <Overclocked_486> nrdb thanks
[08:11] <dabaR> dpupp: oh, that one is very new, not much customization can be done yet, and I dont know how it can be done.
[08:11] <allison_1984> kyncani > ok...thanks guys ! :)
[08:11] <kyncani> np
[08:11] <dabaR> allison_1984: why use commands?. there is a nice gui program for that. would you like a command, or a walkthrough of using the GUI?
[08:11] <Overclocked_486> kyncani: I want to use xmms as an alarm clock, because my real alarm clock sucks.
[08:11] <dpupp> DabaR know if it can be turned off and just have the text flying by?
[08:11] <fatehaze> Can I install Xubuntu on powerpc architecture?
[08:11] <kyncani> Overclocked_486: well, if you want to start an X app, you have to set DISPLAY i think
[08:12] <dabaR> Overclocked_486: "man at" that could help.
[08:12] <cafuego> fatehaze: yes
[08:12] <fatehaze> Thanks :)
[08:12] <kyncani> Overclocked_486: but if you just want to control xmms, you should use xmms-shell methinks
[08:12] <allison_1984> dabaR > thing is I installed thru the x terminal, sometimes I don't find it in the add applications menu......anyway lemme try
[08:12] <dabaR> dpupp: you would edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file.
[08:13] <Overclocked_486> kyncani: My script works fine. It's one line: "xmms -- play"
[08:13] <dabaR> allison_1984: use System>Administration>Synaptic package manager. visit http://dabar.selfip.org/synaptic.html for a short walkthrough. what commmand did you use to install the program?
[08:13] <kyncani> Overclocked_486: as for the alarm thing, i think xmms-alarm is what you're looking for
[08:14] <kyncani> Overclocked_486: well, as it does work very fine, you do not have any problem now do you ? :)
[08:14] <fatehaze> If I install Xubuntu with my current Ubuntu installation intact, I can switch between the two with the "sessions" button, right?
[08:14] <allison_1984> dpkg -i
[08:14] <dpupp> thanks dabaR
[08:14] <Overclocked_486> kyncani: it works fine when I invoke it with sh. Getting cron to invoke it's a whole different story.
[08:15] <fatehaze> Or should I just install xfce seperately?
[08:15] <kyncani> Overclocked_486: as i said, three solutions : 1) use xmms-alarm 2) use xmms-shell 3) start xmms from cron but you have to set $DISPLAY
[08:15] <rob_p> Overclocked_486:  So you can do, "/etc/cron.daily/alarum.sh" at the command prompt as your user, and it works?
[08:15] <dabaR> allison_1984: it will likely be shown in synaptic. for a command line tool, I, and many others, recommend aptitude for general use. "sudo aptitude install package" installs package, sudo aptitude remove package removes package, aptitude search keyword searched for a keyword in the name and description of a package.
[08:15] <kyncani> Overclocked_486: using xmms-alarm being my choice
[08:15] <frogzoo> Overclocked_486: oh, I guess your problem is youre trying to launch an X app from within cron - dont think this is possible
[08:16] <Overclocked_486> ah, ok.
[08:16] <kyncani> frogzoo: it is possible
[08:16] <dabaR> Overclocked_486: use "at" that could work.
[08:16] <frogzoo> Overclocked_486: kyncani is right - you just need to set Display variable ?
[08:17] <frogzoo> ie at the top of the script 'export Display=0.0'     iirc ?
[08:17] <Overclocked_486> you know, I give up. When it's executed as "sh /etc/cron.daily/alarum.sh" it's fine, when executed as "/etc/cron.daily/alarum.sh" it fries ESD.
[08:17] <allison_1984> dabaR > starting up the synaptics manager takes a lot more time than thru the terminal....that I must say....lol
[08:17] <dabaR> echo "xmms --play" |at 6am or something like that would do it.
[08:17] <dpupp> how do i change the file association of *.pls files? I want XMMS to open them from now on.
[08:17] <Overclocked_486> where should I put the $DISPLAY ?
[08:17] <dabaR> allison_1984: the command line has its virtues off course. that is why I use that mostly for things like installation. but so does gui have advantages.
[08:18] <frogzoo> Overclocked_486: 2nd line - after the #!/bin/sh
[08:18] <dabaR> dpupp: right click on one in the file manager window(nautilus) and select properties. under the open with tab, selecct the program you want.
[08:18] <Overclocked_486> frogzoo: Commented?
[08:18] <frogzoo> like so 'export DISPLAY=:0.0' no comments
[08:18] <dpupp> perfect. Thanks dabaR
[08:18] <Adross> does anyone have any experience using a video ipod on linux?
[08:19] <Adross> specifically ubuntu?
[08:19] <dabaR> Overclocked_486: seriously you guys, try at, I think it is more fit for the jjob.
[08:19] <allison_1984> dabaR > definitely for a noob like me !! ....ty
[08:19] <Overclocked_486> so before "xmms --play" I should have "export DISPLAY=:0.0"?
[08:19] <frogzoo> Overclocked_486: give it a new line all of its own
[08:20] <dabaR> allison_1984: why it takes longer to load up is that it has to display all packages it knows about, that could be a very high number.
[08:20] <Glossary> deluser doesnt do anything!!
[08:20] <Orborde> frogzoo / Overclocked_486 : What are you doing?
[08:20] <frogzoo> Orborde: Overclocked_486 is trying to start xmms from cron
[08:20] <paul__> wondering if anyone could tell me a decent terminal client ? specifcially for ssh to remote server to use irssi
[08:20] <Overclocked_486> Orborde: I'm trying to use xmms as an alarm clock using cron
[08:20] <Shadowpillar> Overclocked_486, or just do DISPLAY=:0 xmms --play
[08:20] <Orborde> Ahhh
[08:20] <dabaR> Glossary: did you give root permissions to someone you should not have? sudo deluser <username> removes a user from the system.
[08:20] <paul__> atm i'm using the default terminal and its very lame looking :P
[08:21] <dabaR> !find terminal
[08:21] <Glossary> dabaR, it sais done.. but the files didnt get deleted.
[08:21] <dabaR> !+find terminal
[08:21] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'terminal' (13 shown): fte-terminal ;; gnome-terminal ;; gnome-terminal-data ;; lessdisks-cloner-terminal ;; lessdisks-terminal ;; lessdisks-xterminal ;; multi-gnome-terminal ;; multi-gnome-terminal-doc ;; nautilus-open-terminal ;; sdm-terminal ;; terminal ;; xfce4-terminal ;; xterminal.
[08:22] <dabaR> Glossary: the /home/username file do not get deleted that way.
[08:22] <Overclocked_486> while I'm at it, is there a way to get ESD to restart without rebooting?
[08:22] <paul__> yer there are a few availible, i've just not used any of them i'd love something that is like putty, or like the iwhax terminal
[08:22] <dabaR> Overclocked_486: are you in gnome?
[08:22] <Glossary> dabaR, oh... how?
[08:22] <Overclocked_486> dabaR: yes
[08:22] <dabaR> Glossary: what, how do you delete the files? rm.
[08:23] <Glossary> oh okay..
[08:23] <Glossary> thanks ;)
[08:23] <dabaR> Overclocked_486: try just killall esd. and if it does not restart, run "nohup esd&"
[08:23] <dabaR> Glossary: man rm for details if you are not sure.
[08:24] <Glossary> yea i know how :)
[08:24] <Overclocked_486> dabaR: still dead.
[08:24] <aftertaf_> anyone know how tyo clone a floppy disk in linux?
[08:25] <aftertaf_> i got a msdos boot disk that is deaded, but linux can read it (surprise)
[08:25] <aftertaf_> and i need to make a new one.
[08:26] <dabaR> Overclocked_486: you killall-ed esd? it stayed dead? you ran "nohup esd&" and it did not run?
[08:26] <frogzoo> aftertaf_:  dd if=/dev/fd0 of=/tmp/fd.bck - swap floppies ; dd if=/tmp/fd.bck of=/dev/fd0
[08:26] <cenopec> hey i guess my external hard drive is not being recognized by ubuntu anymore, anyone know y?
[08:26] <morphix> hmm.. i cant seem to get nvidia drivers to install anymore :(
[08:27] <frogzoo> cenopec: whats changed? power? cables?
[08:27] <Overclocked_486> dabaR: yes. I ran killall esd, then ps ax | grep esd, which returned the grep, then nohup esd&. I then opened a new terminal and there was still no sound.
[08:27] <aftertaf_> nice one frogzoo .. that'll  do a byte for nyte copy, no need to format et al ? :)
[08:27] <dabaR> did the nohup commmand produce a sound?
[08:27] <khalif> I really could use some help guys, :) !
[08:27] <frogzoo> aftertaf_: correct
[08:27] <khalif> I'm trying to transfer some files from my iMac to my laptop running Kubuntu using my USB pen drive. Everytime i plug it into my usb port I get an error message saying that "media/sda4" doesn't exist. I've got my pen drive formatted as UNIX File System so why won't Kubuntu recognize it?
[08:28] <cenopec> nothing at all
[08:28] <Overclocked_486> dabar: No.
[08:28] <dabaR> khalif: ls /media and tell us whether there is an sda4
[08:28] <cenopec> and my windows comps still recognize it
[08:28] <aftertaf_> morphix:  what happened, an update?
[08:28] <dabaR> Overclocked_486: run just esd in a terminal now.
[08:28] <cenopec> so its not hardware error
[08:29] <Overclocked_486> dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[08:29] <aftertaf_> argh i/o error
[08:29] <aftertaf_> guess its borked then
[08:29] <NigelS> khalif: I'm not sure which filesystem you mean by unix filesystem?
[08:29] <frogzoo> aftertaf_:  guess theres bad sectors - Linux can read some, but not all
[08:30] <cenopec> frogzoo: you have any idea?
[08:30] <frogzoo> cenopec: show us the fstab line
[08:30] <khalif> dabaR: The console says: cdrom, cdrom0, floppy, floppy0
[08:30] <khalif> I don't even have a floppy drive!
[08:30] <aftertaf_> yup.
[08:31] <dabaR> khalif: sudo mkdir /media/sda4
[08:31] <aftertaf_> frogzoo:  its a ghost bootdisk... and funny that the error is on the actual driver for the NIC :] 
[08:31] <aftertaf_> long live bart's universal boot disk :] 
[08:31] <khalif> Will doing that make Kubuntu recognize my usb pen drive?
[08:31] <cenopec> frogzoo: lol can you be more specific, still not that well versed in the commands
[08:32] <dabaR> Overclocked_486: sudo lsof /dev/dsp
[08:32] <frogzoo> cenopec: I assume youve tried a reboot?
[08:32] <dabaR> khalif: that is the folder your error message tells you is missing. what the command will do, is create that folder. I can not tell whether it will fix your issue. you can only try.
[08:33] <dabaR> s/folder/directory
[08:33] <khalif> Thanks!
[08:33] <cenopec> yeah plenty of times
[08:34] <frogzoo> cenopec: this is a USB external HDD?
[08:34] <cenopec> yeah its an old floppy drive i put it into an eclosure
[08:34] <cenopec> ubuntu recognized it for about a week
[08:34] <cenopec> now it just does nothing
[08:35] <cenopec> changed the usb port, everytthing
[08:35] <cenopec> i figure its software error
[08:36] <morphix> aftertaf_ no not an update..i have since formatted the pc
[08:36] <frogzoo> cenopec: unfortunately I dont know that much about how the hotplug system works
[08:36] <dabaR> khalif: did that fix your issue?
[08:36] <cenopec> yeah i figured i am in a tight spot
[08:37] <dabaR> cenopec: a floppy disk drive is not called a hard disk drive..
[08:38] <khalif> dabaR: Nope, still getting the same error message.
[08:38] <bluefoxicy> Question
[08:38] <DJGreen> hi ubundites
[08:38] <bluefoxicy> why does ubuntu-desktop depend on libanything?!
[08:38] <DJGreen> :)
[08:39] <bluefoxicy> try updating nessus in dapper
[08:39] <DJGreen> does anyone else here have applications menu problem in dapper?
[08:39] <khalif> I thought that this new version of Ubuntu/Kubuntu was configured to use USB pen drives?
[08:39] <bluefoxicy> it wants to remove libgdchart-gd1-noxpm, python-gdchart, and ubuntu-desktop, and install libgdchart-gd2-noxpm
[08:39] <DJGreen> my menu seems to stop working at least cannot access the applications menu
[08:39] <bluefoxicy> which means no real programs are being removed
[08:39] <khalif> Do you think that I have to find a driver for it?
[08:40] <bluefoxicy> ubuntu-desktop must depend on python-gdchart or libgdchart-gd1-noxpm
[08:40] <frogzoo> khalif: mostly they work just as is
[08:40] <bluefoxicy> which is retarded
[08:40] <bluefoxicy> it should depend on an application which thus depends on one of those
[08:40] <khalif> I can't keep making cd's just to transfer a few files to my laptop....
[08:40] <bluefoxicy> and in my case, since no application depends on those two things, ubuntu-desktop should be able to stay without them.
[08:40] <frogzoo> khalif: CD R/W :D
[08:41] <morphix> USB thumb drive :P
[08:41] <dabaR> khalif: "sudo mount /dev/sda4 /media/sda4" after plugging it in.
[08:41] <khalif> after a while that's gonna fail from all of the re-writing to it.
[08:41] <khalif> Ok. let me try that!
[08:41] <DJGreen> I am on Ubuntu ppc dapper. I love it since i now have 3d accelleration its great but the applictions menu is inaccessable. Any solutions anyone?
[08:42] <morphix> got a usb thumb drive? lol.
[08:42] <dabaR> bluefoxicy: are you having a rant about how the development version is not perfect yet?
[08:42] <NigelS> dabaR: directories in /media should be found as devices are added, e.g. you shouldn't have to make your own surely?
[08:42] <bluefoxicy> dabaR:  Actually I'm more concerned with why a meta-package is run as it is.
[08:42] <NigelS> khalif: what filesystem did you say it was formatted with again?
[08:43] <dabaR> NigelS: be my guest.
[08:43] <khalif> UNIX
[08:43] <cenopec> daBaR: what did you mean by that earlier 'A floppy disk drive is not called a hard disk drive
[08:43] <dabaR> khalif: is that under macOS?
[08:43] <NigelS> khalif: what do you mean by unix? what did you format that with?
[08:43] <dabaR> cenopec: is it a hard disk, or a floppy drive?
[08:43] <khalif> Yep! :)
[08:43] <bluefoxicy> dabaR:  It's like if the package openoffice.org2 depended on openoffice.org2-writer and glibc and libgtk+ and all the other libs openoffice.org2-writer depended on, instead of just openoffice.org2-writer which depends on all those anyway.
[08:43] <NigelS> khalif: can macosx understand fat32?
[08:43] <cenopec> its an external hard disk
[08:43] <cenopec> it was a floppy a couple days ago but i gave up on that
[08:43] <dabaR> NigelS: in MacOSX they have an option to format as Unix type. I think it is ext, but not 100% sure, I bet he can find that out with fdisk.
[08:43] <khalif> It's a Sandisk usb pen drive.
[08:44] <bluefoxicy> dabaR:  as soon as oowriter2 no longer needs something, suddenly a meta-package wants it for no reason.
[08:44] <morphix> khalif so is mine :D
[08:44] <cenopec> its a 2.5 inch 6 gig hard drive in an enclosure
[08:44] <cenopec> its usb
[08:44] <fr500> hello
[08:44] <morphix> Sandisk Cruzer Micro
[08:44] <bluefoxicy> dabaR:  this is going on with ubuntu-desktop, evidently; it apparently depends on miscillaneous libraries and python components that certain programs need.
[08:44] <bluefoxicy> dabaR:  for reasons i can't explain.
[08:44] <fr500> a question, how can i insall some hoary packages in breezy? changing repositories?
[08:45] <dabaR> if you remove a dependency of a program, that is a dependency of another program, 3 programs will be remove,
[08:45] <Thirsteh> fr500, yes, but why do that?
[08:45] <fr500> bluetooth sw  from hoary worked better for me
[08:45] <khalif> Yeah, i formatted it in UNIX File System. I thought that would be more compatible than MS-DOS (yuck!)
[08:45] <cenopec> dabaR: you know anything about my prob?
[08:45] <Thirsteh> fr500, if you add the hoary mirrors, it's possible, but I don't recommend it -- and you might run into a dependency chaos
[08:46] <Razor-X> khalif: UNIX file system?
[08:46] <DJGreen> fr500 change the repositories by adding multiverse and universe to the repo area
[08:46] <cenopec> dabaR: ubuntu recognized it for about a week, but then now i plug it in and nothing happens
[08:46] <DJGreen> where it says main restricted
[08:46] <fr500> DJGreen, i have the packages
[08:46] <khalif> Yeah, it's a format option in OS X
[08:46] <DJGreen> i see
[08:46] <fr500> but they dont worl
[08:46] <fr500> work
[08:46] <Razor-X> ahhh
[08:46] <DJGreen> use synaptic
[08:46] <fr500> Thirsteh, both gnome-phone-manager and gnome-bluetooth from hoary work for me 100% contrary from the newer ones in breezy
[08:46] <Razor-X> weird
[08:46] <dpupp> is there a way to play midi in XMMS? i dont really like having to type "pmidi midifilename.mid" in a terminal to hear midi.
[08:46] <NigelS> khalif: fat32 is generally a good choice for usb drives
[08:47] <khalif> Should I reformat it as something else
[08:47] <Thirsteh> fr500, if that's what you want to do then adding the Hoary mirrors is what you want to do, just add the mirrors, get the packages and get them removed again asap
[08:47] <_native_> Razor-X; sup
[08:47] <Thirsteh> fr500, the mirrors that is
[08:47] <khalif> fat32 isn't an option on my iMac, jsut MS-DOS, UNIX File System and HFS+
[08:48] <dabaR> cenopec: what drive is it?
[08:48] <Hoxzer> can I use terminal server client to connect to the nXserver?
[08:48] <DJGreen> i can't stand not having a working gnome panel
[08:48] <DJGreen> i think its a bug in dapper's gnome panel
[08:48] <_native_> DJGreen; what happened?
[08:48] <DJGreen> anyone else have this problem?
[08:48] <dabaR> khalif: that file system should definitely be fine. the mount /dev/sda4 /media/sda4 did what?
[08:48] <_native_> ahh..
[08:48] <fr500> Thirsteh, add or replace, which is better?
[08:49] <khalif> dabaR: How do I specify the filesystem type with that mount command?
[08:49] <cafuego> khalif: Linux can read and write HFS just fine.
[08:49] <DJGreen> my gnome-panel application menu doesnt work it flashes the menu but then shows me no menu
[08:49] <Thirsteh> fr500, add, you'll want to remove the mirrors after installation
[08:49] <abydos> ugh, I hate making decisions like this.
[08:49] <DJGreen> very frustrating
[08:49] <DJGreen> places and system menu works fine
[08:49] <khalif> really?
[08:49] <cafuego> khalif: hfs+ too for that matter, though it will eventualkly require OSX disk ustils to fix.
[08:49] <DJGreen> but only applications menu does the bitch number with me
[08:49] <fr500> Thirsteh, ok, and only the main repo or multiverse and everything
[08:49] <cenopec> dabaR: its a usb enclosure, an old laptop hard drive, 6 gigs,
[08:49] <cafuego> khalif: Yes, even on ia32 :-)
[08:50] <khalif> what's ia32?
[08:50] <cafuego> khalif: 32bit Intel
[08:50] <dabaR> khalif: -t <type> but I am not sure what osX means by Unix.
[08:50] <cafuego> dabaR: ffs (bsd)
[08:50] <Thirsteh> fr500, try the main one for starters, since it's a bluetooth package I suppose it's there
[08:50] <abydos> Do I want to upgrade my desktop to an a64, and have to buy a new HD, CPU, mobo, and RAM, or do I want to build a completely new machine, based on an a64, with all-new RAM, only 1 HD, and one optical drive?
[08:50] <cafuego> Sorry, ufs
[08:50] <dabaR> cafuego: how can he then specify that mount?
[08:51] <abydos> err, at that rate, it's cheaper to build a new box
[08:51] <abydos> since I'd have to buy a new gfx card anyway..
[08:51] <cafuego> dabaR: mount -t ufs /dev/hdXY /mnt/poin
[08:51] <cafuego> try that first, you may need specific ufs mount options (see man mount)
[08:51] <fr500> Thirsteh, they should keep old versions on the server :p
[08:51] <dabaR> khalif: try that, replace the two /dev /mnt with what we said.
[08:51] <khalif> Ok...
[08:52] <cafuego> You may need '-o 44bsd' too (I think)
[08:52] <NigelS> I was just suspicious that the error is not entirely accurate, e.g. macos formatted the drive strangely, and kde spits out that error
[08:52] <ryan__> hum... so say I have aptly-gotten a package at some stage... how do I know where to find it?
[08:52] <NigelS> why not try, khalif typing tail -f /var/log/messages in a terminal and then plugging it in, see what it says regarding the device
[08:53] <DJGreen> anyone else on ubuntu ppc and on dapper ?
[08:53] <cafuego> DJGreen: Does dapper ppc have kernel 2.6.15 yet?
[08:53] <DJGreen> let's see what i have
[08:54] <DJGreen> Linux hell 2.6.15-6-powerpc #1 Thu Dec 1 03:54:10 UTC 2005 ppc GNU/Linux
[08:54] <cafuego> neet
[08:54] <DJGreen> oh yeah this version has parts of xorg 7
[08:54] <DJGreen> which also means i have 3d accelleration on my powerbook 17
[08:55] <DJGreen> good news for all ppc users
[08:55] <dabaR> ryan__: where to find which part of the package? sudo dpkg -L <packageName> will tell you all files in the packkage, I think.
[08:55] <_native_> cafuego; likes saying "mac mini" ;] 
[08:55] <DJGreen> mac mini is a pill
[08:55] <DJGreen> heh
[08:55] <dabaR> ryan__: you dont have to use sudo for the command.
[08:55] <robotgeek> DJGreen: do the older powerbooks (2001) get the nice 3-D (i think not)
[08:55] <DJGreen> in dapper yes
[08:56] <ryan__> dabaR thanks.. let me play around with that for a minute
[08:56] <DJGreen> it uses r300 and other drivers
[08:56] <cafuego> robotgeek: Not the wallstreet etc ones.
[08:56] <dabaR> Ill tell you what's good news for all ppc users - apple signed with intel.
[08:56] <DJGreen> the older ones should have 3d out of the box
[08:56] <cafuego> the mini has a 9200 se, works fine already.
[08:56] <robotgeek> cafuego: no, it's a powerbook G4, ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x (rev 02)
[08:56] <DJGreen> intel sucks still
[08:56] <DJGreen> apple should have gone with amd
[08:56] <dabaR> apple still sucks too.
[08:57] <cafuego> robotgeek: That should already work.
[08:57] <DJGreen> well let's not knock machines here
[08:57] <DJGreen> people like what they have
[08:57] <dabaR> no, I don't.
[08:57] <cafuego> dabaR: A driver for the broadcom *is* under development :-)
[08:57] <DJGreen> i am a pro mac user here but i support pc's cause
[08:57] <dabaR> cafuego: no. wow, what great news.
[08:57] <DJGreen> so putting it together i think apple would have strived better with amd
[08:57] <robotgeek> cafuego: i don't have direct rendering on mine
[08:58] <morphix> i like pc's with the 'byo' type of stuff
[08:58] <DJGreen> tobotgeek install dapper
[08:58] <DJGreen> if you really want the 3d accelleration
[08:58] <DJGreen> its out of the box on dapper but also unstable mind you.
[08:58] <robotgeek> DJGreen: i've lived without 3D acceleration for an year now, i don't mind waiting for another 4 months or so.
[08:58] <khalif> guys: with that sudo /mnt/poin I got a message saying "mount: mount point /mnt/poin does not exist"
[08:59] <DJGreen> well according to adc apple the next expo will be releasing the laptops with intel chips
[08:59] <cafuego> ir is what an U3?
[08:59] <dabaR> khalif: sudo mount -t ufs /dev/sda4 /media/sda4
[08:59] <Hobbsee> khalif: sudo mkdir /mnt/poin
[08:59] <DJGreen> hehe robotgeek its pretty good but suityourself
[08:59] <DJGreen> xorg 7 should be a blessing for all of us not just apple geeks
[08:59] <robotgeek> DJGreen: plus, i have an ibook which has 3D accel anyways
[08:59] <DJGreen> yeh
[08:59] <DJGreen> so you're all good
[09:00] <DJGreen> i'm just happy because powerbook 17 is an issue bitch
[09:00] <robotgeek> DJGreen: oh well, my powerbook apparently now has direct rendering support
[09:00] <DJGreen> my powerbook is the drama queen of all ppc
[09:00] <DJGreen> it was an issue for me until happer
[09:00] <cafuego> dabaR: You're aware of http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/ ?
[09:00] <DJGreen> dapper rather
[09:00] <DJGreen> haha
[09:00] <fr500> Thirsteh, can i make synpatic not update the packages after doing all this?
[09:01] <DJGreen> broadcom company itself is developing for x86 mac version
[09:01] <morphix> i would get a PPC IF they didnt cost so much.. and if they were able to be totally custom built.
[09:01] <DJGreen> apple happens to make universal binaries
[09:01] <DJGreen> that's why i see it coming to ppc
[09:01] <robotgeek> dabaR: the driver already compiles. on 2.6.15 (the dev claims to have sent the email using those drivers)
[09:01] <cafuego> dabaR: Oh, it looks like they have a _working_ version now.
[09:02] <DJGreen> in a couple months finally after years of waiting ppc folks will be able to join the rest
[09:02] <DJGreen> i know how it felt to be a ppc linux fan and be behind on all the good stuff
[09:02] <robotgeek> DJGreen: yay!
[09:02] <DJGreen> like doom3 on linux
[09:02] <cafuego> Too bad Apple will probably go Centrino now that there's a working-ish broadcom driver :-P
[09:02] <DJGreen> i doubt apple will go gentoo
[09:03] <DJGreen> i bet you more than anything it will be debian/gnu darwin
[09:03] <DJGreen> look it up on sourceforge
[09:03] <DJGreen> debian gnu darwin
[09:03] <DJGreen> gentoo is a compile your own style os
[09:03] <dabaR> cafuego: I could not care less, I wont be buying any more apples like this anyhow. if they come up with a better product, I may buy one.
[09:03] <DJGreen> osx is already like that
[09:03] <DJGreen> with darwinports
[09:04] <DJGreen> that's probably what he meant about gentoo on osx
[09:04] <DJGreen> its a compile file system
[09:04] <cafuego> dabaR: the Quad G5 seems nice
[09:04] <DJGreen> dabar you should welcome anyone
[09:04] <DJGreen> that's what this place is for
[09:04] <DJGreen> x86/ppc
[09:04] <DJGreen> all linux users are the same at elast as of now.
[09:05] <linuxboy> I got this strange problem in openoffice on breezy
[09:05] <ubuntu2> when I'm enabling a 0x82 swap partition I need to mkswap then swapon and thats it?
[09:05] <cafuego> ubuntu2: Yep
[09:05] <ubuntu2> cool, danke
[09:05] <linuxboy> I have 2 PCs that run Openoffice and they have numbers that change on a save in calc
[09:05] <cafuego> ubuntu2: To auomate it, add a swap entry in /etc/fstab
[09:06] <selinium> Good Morning all!
[09:06] <ubuntu2> err... right, /dev/hdc3 swap swap defaults 0 0
[09:06] <ubuntu2>  is what it made :D
[09:06] <cafuego> Seems about right
[09:07] <fr500> i downloaded a source deb, how can i recompile it against different deps? or however its called
[09:07] <cafuego> Eh
[09:07] <cafuego> /dev/hdc3 none swap defaults 0 0
[09:07] <DJGreen> i have to say one messed up issue
[09:08] <ubuntu2> is the /experimental/livecd able to use a swap partition so it doesnt seek constantly
[09:08] <DJGreen> what you all think about france going closed source
[09:08] <DJGreen> ?
[09:08] <DJGreen> if that happens good bye freedom linux
[09:08] <ubuntu2> .. never liked the french :P
[09:08] <cafuego> ubuntu2: I believe it automatically uses it if it finds one at bootup
[09:08] <acid2> g'mornin
[09:08] <ubuntu2> moin acid2
[09:08] <tempest_> hey, anybody know how to add plugins for totem?
[09:08] <acid2> could anyone help me to fix this compile error: http://rafb.net/paste/results/VhKcM486.html ?
[09:08] <fr500> i mean, i downloaded gnome-phone-manager 0.4 source debs, now i want to recompile it against some different libs i have
[09:09] <dabaR> DJGreen: it is not a mater of not welcoming someone, it is a matter of a discussion of something not classifiable as "ubuntu support" people's questions are not being answered. I am always on #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:10] <selinium> DJGreen:? How can an entire county go Closed source?
[09:10] <DJGreen> for curiosity sakes what is everyone's favorite irc client for ubuntu?
[09:10] <dabaR> DJGreen: as well, visit gnu.org/philosophy, to learn the name of the OS.
[09:10] <DJGreen> oh its all good dabar
[09:10] <DJGreen> wasnt knockin
[09:10] <DJGreen> :)
[09:10] <acid2> DJGreen: I'm an IRSSI user
[09:10] <morphix> irssi :)
[09:10] <DJGreen> i am an xchat user
[09:10] <DJGreen> but i like irssi
[09:10] <DJGreen> :)
[09:10] <morphix> xchat IF i am using GUI.. lol
[09:10] <selinium> DJGreen, I'll answer in #ubuntu-offtopic ! :)
[09:11] <DJGreen> haha
[09:11] <dabaR> its a used channel
[09:11] <DJGreen> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:11] <DJGreen> whoops
[09:11] <dabaR> tempest_: did you read the codecs page of the wiki?
[09:11] <DJGreen> doh!
[09:11] <selinium> lol
[09:11] <ubuntu2> well on breezy, the default boot doesnt include any swap when found. system monitor says 0 bytes of 0 bytes until you swapon
[09:12] <darko> Hi! I would like to disable taskbar grouping of the same programs. Can anyone help?
[09:12] <fr500> tempest_, it depends if the backend is xine or gstreamer i think
[09:13] <dabaR> ubuntu2: those do not seem like sentences.
[09:14] <zorba64> darko: as grouping on gnome taskbar...try right clicking and see what u find
[09:15] <dj_iwan_da> Hi every body.. srry for waiting.. would you like to join..
[09:15] <darko> zorba64: I tried that, but there is no apropriate option :-(
[09:15] <linuxboy> Everytime I save a calc spreadsheet, it changes my values on the next open. Why is it doing this?
[09:16] <zorba64> darko: right-click on the handle where you apps are grouped
[09:17] <joedj_> anyone know what i need to get quicktime working in xine?
[09:18] <dj_iwan_da> yeah.. i'd to talk about anything.. expecialy abaout Indonesian country.. well i't our country..
[09:18] <zorba64> joedj: w32codecs
[09:18] <darko> zorba: I did, but there is no option for disabling it.
[09:18] <blue-frog> joedj, wiki.edubuntu.com > starter guide
[09:18] <fr500> !tell joedj about w32codecs
[09:19] <joedj_> blue-frog: hrm, nothing there apart from an odd directory list
[09:19] <dj_iwan_da> hai joedj.. don't work so hart.. enjoy your live..
[09:19] <joedj_> fr500: nothing told me, yet ;-)
[09:19] <blue-frog> joedj, choose the starter guide link
[09:20] <joedj_> blue-frog: there are no links, just a directory list
[09:20] <fr500> joedj, got the msg form /msg /msg joedj  told joedj about w32codecs (methinks w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-fda9cc5147253891fe3047263b82d787ab025bba to install)
[09:20] <joedj_> blue-frog: httpS did the trick, though
[09:20] <joedj_> fr500: i'm joedj_ :)
[09:20] <fr500> wew
[09:21] <dj_iwan_da> dag.. every body.. i've to leave now.. see you thank
[09:22] <ishit> anyone any help on ubuntu sources.list
[09:22] <dabaR> ishit: how do you pronounce your nick?
[09:22] <aftertaf> ishit:  whats te pb?
[09:22] <ishit> backports r closed
[09:23] <ishit> where can i get the latest sources.list available
[09:23] <antix> okay, I installed firefox 1.5 and used automatix to install java, etc... they work in the old firefox version, but not in 1.5. any suggestions?
[09:23] <deFrysk> antix, stop using automatix is my first suggestion
[09:24] <antix> uh okay
[09:24] <joedj_> thanks for the help, folks
[09:24] <darko> zorba64: You we're right, I was clicking on wrong part of taskbar. It works as I wanted now. Thanks!
[09:25] <antix> deFrysk: did you have any further suggestions?
[09:25] <fr500> joedj, did it work?
[09:25] <fr500> i mean, didi you get it?
[09:25] <ishit> hello can anyone help
[09:25] <antix> or was "first" for comedic value?
[09:26] <deFrysk> antix, in the wiki is a howto for firefox1.5
[09:26] <antix> yeah I know
[09:26] <deFrysk> antix, did you use that howto ?
[09:26] <joedj_> fr500: actually no, this is an AMD64 machine so i'm still stumped :)
[09:26] <fr500> oh
[09:26] <fr500> crap
[09:26] <antix> yes
[09:26] <joedj_> maybe VLC can do it
[09:27] <fr500> i got one too (but no linux yet) the alienware is for gaming :p
[09:27] <ishit> anyone got the latest ubuntu sources.list
[09:27] <fr500> altough i feel intrigued
[09:27] <zorba64> darko: thought it might...good & np
[09:27] <antix> 1.5 works fine, it's just the plugins I'm having issues with
[09:28] <dabaR> !sources
[09:28] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:28] <dabaR> the Breezy one is out of date.
[09:29] <deFrysk> antix, did you read the : Link to your plugins (and remove totem-mozilla as it doesn't seem to work with Firefox 1.5): bit ?
[09:29] <antix> deFrysk, I did
[09:29] <deFrysk> antix, and apply it ?
[09:29] <joedj_> fr500: gotta run, i'll drop in if i figure anything out :)
[09:29] <antix> yes... I'll do it again just to be redundant and make sure
[09:30] <fr500> kk
[09:30] <deFrysk> antix, also check the automatix script , the cause might lay there
[09:30] <khalif> This this is crazy! I'm reading entries in the Kubuntu forum where a couple people experienced the same problem as me. Only they didn't have 3.5 and when they installed the 3.5 beta their problem with the usb drives went away. I've got the final 3.5 version, but I'm having the same problem that they used to.
[09:30] <blue-frog> Iam looking for someone kind enoguh to give me a wroking example of how using /etc/skel. (goole is full of theory which I am not able to translate in wroking stuff), pls
[09:31] <dabaR> ishit: if you are looking to add the backports to your sources.list, visit http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports for instructions
[09:31] <antix> hm.. what would I be looking for there?
[09:31] <khalif> Why can't stuff just work? Why do I have to do all of this workaround crap to get things to work that should already be working?
[09:31] <deFrysk> antix, dunno , ask the maker of the script
[09:31] <antix> cool beans
[09:32] <khalif> I'm really getting frutrated with Linux..
[09:32] <dabaR> khalif: cause it is more fun. and lets you get embarassed in front of friends and family.
[09:32] <blue-frog> I am looking for someone kind enoguh to give me a working example of how using /etc/skel. (goole is full of theory which I am not able to translate in working stuff), pls
[09:32] <blue-frog> sry
[09:32] <zorba64> khalif: isn't your laptop a little old?
[09:32] <paul__> what do i need for 'make' ?
[09:33] <antix> I went the forums, and the best answer I seemed for find for installing java, flash, etc. was automatrix... but apparently it only automatically installs for the old version. I don't understand why the plugins wouldn't work, though, given that everything is properly linked.
[09:33] <blue-frog> paul--, apt-get install build-essential
[09:33] <deFrysk> antix, the prob with that script reveals itself now, you have no idea of whats installed and whats not ;)
[09:33] <antix> I know what's installed, it's just improperly installed
[09:33] <antix> if I run "firefox.ubuntu" all the stuff works
[09:34] <khalif> That yes, it is a bit old (four or five years), but still when i had WindozeXp (yuck!) everything worked fine. Sure it doesn't have a firewire drive. Sure it doesn't have an Ethernet port, but it still worked.
[09:34] <paul__> blue-frog, cheers
[09:34] <deFrysk> antix, if the plugins are copied and symlinked properly it should work
[09:34] <antix> yeah, that's my theory.. unfortunately it isn't so
[09:34] <khalif> Let me calm down. Has anyone else experienced problems with mounting usb pen drives?
[09:35] <deFrysk> antix, next time stay away from automatix and alike script , use the help and wiki files and we and you know whats installed and whats not and how
[09:36] <robotgeek> deFrysk: AFAIK, the script used to install java debs from the plf repositories
[09:36] <zorba64> antix: the wiki is the place to go first imho, then the forums etc
[09:36] <antix> um okay
[09:36] <deFrysk> robotgeek, possibly , dont know
[09:36] <antix> well the wiki doesn't google well apparently
[09:37] <robotgeek> antix: the wiki doesn't do google
[09:37] <antix> nothing turns up in google but forums
[09:37] <robotgeek> deFrysk: i dunno about the newer version too
[09:37] <deFrysk> antix, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html
[09:37] <antix> but I'll take that as a get lost and use the wiki
[09:37] <deFrysk> antix,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[09:37] <robotgeek> antix: the wiki also has a search function :)
[09:37] <antix> yes yes...
[09:37] <deFrysk> antix, those are the resources to use
[09:37] <zorba64> antix: it here https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FrontPage
[09:38] <Brown> i tried ubuntu live cd today, i was unable to access the web via firefox inside of x, but from a terminal I was able to ping outside addresses, i'm a n00b, but is this a common fixable thing?
[09:38] <paul__> any ideas how i would fix this: (installing vmware workstation) http://pastebin.com/450704
[09:39] <blue-frog> paul--, u need to install gcc3.4 and export its path
[09:39] <dabaR> Brown: if you can ping, in general, you can surf.
[09:40] <dabaR> Brown: ping domain names worked?
[09:40] <blue-frog> paul--, http://users.linuxbourg.ch/waver/blog/index.php?2005/10/18/61-installer-vmware-sous-ubuntu-breezy
[09:40] <blue-frog>   in french but command lines are command lines...
[09:40] <Brown> that's what I found strange, dhcp worked, it had a local ip, but no browser ability to connect
[09:40] <paul__> thanks yet again!
[09:40] <Brown> yeah, could ping google, but not surf there
[09:41] <antix> Title Search: "firefox 1.5"
[09:41] <antix>  0 results of about 6233 pages. (0.19 seconds)
[09:41] <antix> er...
[09:41] <antix> yeah, helpful, that
[09:41] <deFrysk> antix, search firefox
[09:41] <antix> yeah, that didn't turn up much of use either. anyway, I'll figure it out.
[09:41] <dabaR> Brown: dunno, I know what I could try, like, clear out browser, "sudo iptables --flush" but those should not make a difference, since it is a new live boot.
[09:43] <thomerz> hi, where do i find the file, where the menu architecture is saved?
[09:44] <Brown> k, wish i was in front of it, just decided to try the irc room, i'll be back on tomarrow, what would be a way to test another x program, or are x programs any different from terminal apps
[09:44] <robotgeek> thomerz: might be ~/.local/share/applications/menu-xdg/
[09:45] <Brown> does ubuntu default install lynx, pinging a site might not be enough to test connct ability
[09:45] <CppIsWeird> can anyone help me out, i just installed kubuntu on my external USB hard drive, and everything went smoothe until i go to grub, it wanted to install on my main master boot record to handle booting for my main OS, and thats not what i wanted it to do, so not knowing the path (/dev/sda/) to the usb drive, i backed up, and went into the partitioning and wrote it down, went back into grub where it wouldent allow me to write a bo
[09:46] <thomerz> robotgeek: there are only a few .desktop files
[09:46] <robotgeek> thomerz: one sec
[09:46] <CppIsWeird> my two questions are is, one is there a way to get  grub on there without having to do the whole install again, and two, just so i dont run into this wall again, i can just install grub straight to the USB hard drive, what i want to do is make the bios boot off the usb if i want to get there
[09:46] <kwtm1> CppIsWeird: Are you trying to say that you wanted to boot Kubuntu from your external USB drive?
[09:46] <CppIsWeird> yes
[09:46] <CppIsWeird> but i dont want grub or anything on my internal hard drive
[09:46] <CppIsWeird> i want to select usb hard drive to boot from bios
[09:47] <robotgeek> thomerz: sorry, i know it's a xml file, let me look harder
[09:47] <UbuntuRob> Has anyone in here had experience with Enlightenment in Ubuntu??
[09:47] <kwtm1> CppIsWeird: hmm... good question.  If your bios lets you boot from there, then technically you should be able to do it,
[09:48] <kwtm1> but I don't know how much of the kernel can be loaded via USB.
[09:48] <thomerz> robotgeek: would be nice, but don't hurry :>
[09:48] <CppIsWeird> ... that wasnt my question
[09:48] <CppIsWeird> all of it can be
[09:48] <kwtm1> I'm thinking that, before Linux is up and running fully (or substantially), it might not be able to access the USB parts.
[09:48] <kwtm1> I guess I just don't have enough experience to answer that question.
[09:48] <CppIsWeird> i guess the question is how do i install grub on another partition then the first drive?
[09:49] <blue-frog> paul--, the howto i've given u work for vmware 5....124.  with the new vmware release u don't need the any-any trick just use the export trick
[09:49] <kwtm1> From the command line, how does one get a list of packages or look for a package?  I tried "dpkg -l MyPackageName", but that seems to yield no results whereas using Adept or Kynaptic shows the package name clearly listed.
[09:49] <UbuntuRob> CppIsWeird: Can you install GRUB to a Floppy and copy it over to the USB Drive?????
[09:49] <CppIsWeird> hmm
[09:49] <Brown> dabaR: just getting my irc legs back, any thoughts about other x/terminal apps I can try to test my connectability, the nic card is an onboard gigbit card, could just be a poorly adapted driver
[09:49] <CppIsWeird> would i just copy it?
[09:49] <CppIsWeird> doesnt grub have to be set to boot
[09:50] <UbuntuRob> As far as I know that should be what you have to do
[09:50] <CppIsWeird> im still somewhat unsure as to exactly how grub functions
[09:50] <CppIsWeird> *not grub, i mean boot sectors and etc.
[09:50] <robotgeek> thomerz: my grep is working :). however, the file extension is .menu
[09:50] <UbuntuRob> it should be the same as booting linux from a floppy!
[09:51] <robotgeek> thomerz: /.config/menus/*
[09:51] <kwtm1> UbuntuRob: no, I don't think it's the same as botting linux from a floppy
[09:51] <robotgeek> thomerz: maybe that one
[09:51] <kwtm1> For starters, I don't think grub supports floppies.
[09:51] <CppIsWeird> yes it does
[09:51] <kwtm1> So, the question is, does grub support USB drives?
[09:51] <UbuntuRob> then why does ubuntu allow you to install GRUB to a floppy disk?????
[09:52] <CppIsWeird> hmm
[09:52] <CppIsWeird> ima go try something
[09:52] <CppIsWeird> hope it work
[09:52] <CppIsWeird> s
[09:52] <kwtm1> It does?  Hmm, clearly I don't know what I'm talking about.  I'll just keep quiet, then.
[09:52] <UbuntuRob> All you can do is give it a try!!!
[09:52] <CppIsWeird> i really dont want to start from the beginning of installation again
[09:53] <thomerz> robotgeek: one moment, i will have a look
[09:53] <_StraTDeS_> Hi people, I need some help to install ubuntu because I have a problem with the hd and the cdrom (rare problem). I am shearcing info for months and I don't find anything. Anyone can help me please?
[09:53] <vbgunz> anyone in here a bit familiar with GnuPG?
[09:53] <poningru> yeah
[09:53] <poningru> _StraTDeS_: whats the problem?
[09:53] <robotgeek> vbgunz: slightly, why?
[09:53] <vbgunz> robotgeek: when you --list-sig a key what do the numbers after sig mean?
[09:54] <_StraTDeS_> [poningru]  i have a sata disk, seagate, model st3200822as
[09:54] <vbgunz> robotgeek: I have sig 2 and sig 3 on a key... not sure what it means
[09:54] <poningru> _StraTDeS_: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[09:54] <poningru> err trying to install
[09:54] <robotgeek> vbgunz: me neither, sorry :(
[09:54] <_StraTDeS_> 5.10 amd
[09:54] <_StraTDeS_> amd64
[09:54] <vbgunz> robotgeek: thats cool :)
[09:54] <robotgeek> vbgunz: tho, i only have sig3's .
[09:55] <vbgunz> robotgeek: what do you mean?
[09:55] <robotgeek> vbgunz: no sig 2's. i see all sig 3's
[09:55] <vbgunz> robotgeek: ahh
[09:55] <robotgeek> vbgunz: disregard, i have no clue what i am talking about. lol
[09:56] <olicat> morning all. if i've got an svn server, how can i create a new project on there?
[09:56] <vbgunz> robotgeek: I think those numbers signify the level of trust that signer has given that key...
[09:56] <royce> i tried ubuntu live cd today, i was unable to access the web via firefox inside of x, but from a terminal I was able to ping outside addresses, any ideas?
[09:56] <thomerz> robotgeek: wasn't the right file ;(
[09:56] <vbgunz> robotgeek: 1 being don't know and 5 being I trust completely or something...
[09:56] <Hoxzer__> how do I set timer for command?
[09:56] <_StraTDeS_> any idea poningru?
[09:56] <robotgeek> vbgunz: hmm, my keysigns have all been very trusted.
[09:56] <poningru> _StraTDeS_: hold on still looking
[09:57] <vbgunz> robotgeek: not sure, just think those number mean the "level of trust"
[09:57] <robotgeek> thomerz: sorry, then. ask around
[09:57] <kongo> part #ubuntu su
[09:57] <robotgeek> vbgunz: hmm, nvm
[09:57] <blue-frog> royce, /etc/resolv.conf needs a nameserver entry
[09:57] <_StraTDeS_> ok
[09:57] <vbgunz> robotgeek: just trying to confirm the meaning of those numbers :P
[09:58] <olicat> any ideas how to create a new project with svn?
[09:58] <poningru> _StraTDeS_: its just grub that doesnt install right?
[09:58] <royce> blue-frog: like pico that file and enter a dns server address?
[09:58] <_StraTDeS_> [poningru]  no
[09:58] <_StraTDeS_> ubuntu don't detect my hd and can't install nothing
[09:58] <blue-frog> royce, yes    nameserver 212.27.32.5   for example
[09:58] <poningru> _StraTDeS_: oh really?
[09:59] <blue-frog> royce, use your provider dns of course
[09:59] <poningru> _StraTDeS_: try updating the bios
[09:59] <_StraTDeS_> [poningru]  problem updating the bios because in an hp modified bios
[09:59] <poningru> oh hmm
[09:59] <poningru> yeah I dont know what to tell you dude, try posting in the forums
[10:00] <_StraTDeS_> ok thnx...
[10:00] <royce> blue-frog: sure, is this a common thing, could I have changed something in my install to have avoided this error?
[10:00] <poningru> wait around till this channel gets more populated and ask again
[10:00] <ishit> how do i make a fat partition writable in breezy
[10:00] <blue-frog> royce, depends on how your netowrk is setup
[10:01] <royce> blue-frog: pc-switch-dslmodem, dhcp assigned ip
[10:02] <royce> blue-frog: let me know if I'm askin too many questions, hate to wear my welcome, just heavily curious, seems like a really sweet distro
[10:02] <blue-frog> royce, maybe dhcp is not assiging correctly the dns servers
[10:04] <royce> blue-frog: the eth0 properties showed my primary dns server, in any case i'll ry that fix tomarrow, if it doesn;t werk, i'll definately be back, thanx for the help
[10:05] <blue-frog> royce, ok
[10:06] <ericw> hello
[10:07] <ericw> has anybody gotten dual monitors to work with an ati radeon 9800?
[10:07] <poningru> _StraTDeS_: dude do you have other drives?
[10:07] <poningru> not just SATA
[10:09] <_StraTDeS_> [poningru]  only this drive, this is the problem
[10:09] <poningru> _StraTDeS_: hmm yeah I am seeing problems with people that have SATA+IDE drives
[10:10] <poningru> I am not seeing problems with just sata drives
[10:13] <CppIsWeird> ok, well i re-did the installation, and typed in /dev/sda (my usb drive) and it ran through everything just fine and peachy... but when i tell the bios to boot off my usb drive, it doesnt, explinations?
[10:15] <_StraTDeS_> i go to try bios update
[10:15] <CppIsWeird> hmm, you really thing its the bios?
[10:15] <CppIsWeird> hmm... that assumes i remember what board is in my PC :-P
[10:15] <_StraTDeS_> i am speaking about my problem cppisweird
[10:16] <_StraTDeS_> not your
[10:16] <CppIsWeird> oh
[10:16] <CppIsWeird> lmfao
[10:16] <CppIsWeird> your prolly right anyways
[10:16] <jcsg> buenos dias
[10:18] <jcsg> buenos dias alguien me lee
[10:18] <Seveas> !es
[10:18] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:18] <jcsg> me hablas a mi
[10:18] <_StraTDeS_> [jcsg] 
[10:19] <_StraTDeS_> este es el irc ingles
[10:19] <_StraTDeS_> entra en ubuntu-es
[10:19] <_StraTDeS_> o habla ingls
[10:19] <jcsg> desde el navegador
[10:19] <_StraTDeS_> desde un programa de irc
[10:19] <Seveas> _StraTDeS_, please stick to english in here
[10:19] <jcsg> vale muchas gracias
[10:20] <khalif> Ok, ok, ok ok! I'm learning now!
[10:20] <pramz> hi hi
[10:20] <_StraTDeS_> [Seveas]  yes sorry I was explaining this to jcsg
[10:20] <jcsg> pero el espaol es una de las lenguas mas habladas en el mundo pero bueno no pasa nada
[10:20] <Seveas> _StraTDeS_, ah ok
[10:21] <Paulie> Hello, I just made the transition from XP, now I have loads of audio stuff on my windows partition, I cannot play them in rythmbox ( however I can play them in 'xmms' )
[10:21] <Paulie> what is wrong?
[10:23] <Seveas> !tell Paulie about mp3
[10:23] <Seveas> (xmms has mp3 decoding built-in, for rhythmbox you need gstreamer0.8-mad)
[10:24] <khalif> When I click on my hardrive icon on the desktop, Konquerer opens and the harddrive appears in browser as "media:/hda1". the error message that I get when I try to mount my usb jumpdrive is: "Error: no file/folder exists at media:/sda1". media:/sda1 means that there should be a folder called 'sda1' at the root right?
[10:24] <xspades> how are you mounting the usb drive?
[10:24] <desplesda> khalif:  actually no, media:/sda1 means it's accessing data through the device /dev/sda1
[10:25] <Paulie> ok i get it! thanks
[10:26] <khalif> Well then I don't understand why I'm still getting an error message. I created a directory called sda1 in the media folder which is where cd's and floppy's mount at.
[10:27] <khalif> I edited the fstab like so: /dev/sda1      /media/sda1 auto defaults,users,noauto 0 0
[10:28] <xspades> if it isnt mounted now try, sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
[10:29] <khalif> At first I had it as /media/usbdrive which made a usb drive icon appear, but when I changed it to /media/sda1 the usb drive icon disappeared.
[10:31] <ubuntu2> ubuntu displays everything in /media on the desktop
[10:31] <ubuntu2> what was wrong with the /usbdisk entry? you wanted to give it a definite name
[10:33] <stratking> i'm having problems my install not connecting my wireless card
[10:33] <khalif> Hold on a quick sec!
[10:34] <siorai> stratking,  what kind of wireless do you have?
[10:34] <stratking> netgear wg311 v2
[10:34] <stratking> pci card
[10:35] <stratking> iwconfig gives me what looks to be the right output
[10:35] <stratking> i did a sudo ifup wlan0 and it get "SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable
[10:35] <human_error> anyone know of a lightweight mp3 player that can delete the currently playing song?
[10:35] <siorai> Does the installer actually find the card?
[10:36] <stratking> i believe so, it pulls up as Nickname:"acx100 v0.2.0pre8" w/ iwconfig
[10:36] <fdr> Hello... do you know if there is any gnome applet/application that displays a world clock? Thank you!
[10:36] <stratking> the card uses the acx chipset
[10:37] <eobanb_> which is better, reiser4, or XFS?
[10:37] <siorai> Well, tbh, I'm neither a ubuntu guru, or wireless chipset guru either, but, I can tell yuo that MY installer couldn't locate the network either
[10:37] <khalif> What is the OS X file system? HFS?
[10:37] <eobanb_> khalif, yes
[10:37] <eobanb_> HFS+
[10:38] <siorai> and I'm 4 feet from it, however, once it finished the install, I was able to connect via my wireless
[10:38] <khalif> HFS+ would be Mac OS Extended right?
[10:38] <siorai> Though mine was given the name eth1
[10:38] <eobanb_> yes, khalif
[10:38] <stratking> yeah, when i installed, it found my card but said i was having dns problems
[10:38] <khalif> Thanks! :)
[10:38] <siorai> and I'm guessing you aren't having em
[10:39] <siorai> You've set it to automatically determine IP addy and all that correct?
[10:39] <siorai> (if that applies, and 9 times out of 10 it does)
[10:39] <stratking> i tried it for both dhcp and static ip, telling it all the info
[10:40] <siorai> *thinks* You shuoldn't have a static IP on a wireless network, though, heh
[10:40] <stratking> yeah i know but it was the only way i could even get one page to come up
[10:40] <stratking> had to put in the ip address but one came up
[10:40] <siorai> one page?
[10:40] <stratking> can't get it to come up again though :(
[10:40] <siorai> Tried restarting?
[10:41] <stratking> i've tried logging out, should i do a full restart?
[10:41] <siorai> ( sorry, old habits die hard )
[10:41] <siorai> for some reason, it works on my system, and I don't know why
[10:41] <siorai> ; /
[10:41] <stratking> i can try that
[10:41] <EtnaRosso> morning all, i need to install filezilla on my ubuntu, does anyone can help me?
[10:41] <EtnaRosso> thanks in advance
[10:41] <siorai> Etna you tried the packege management system?
[10:42] <EtnaRosso> i tried apt-get install filezilla
[10:42] <EtnaRosso> but no such package returns
[10:42] <EtnaRosso> please my english
[10:42] <siorai> enabled multiverse/universe?
[10:43] <EtnaRosso> multiverse?
[10:43] <siorai> Additional packeges maintained by the community
[10:43] <siorai> at least I think ^^;;
[10:43] <sretzki> dumbledoore dies on page 606!!112
[10:44] <siorai> oh, the new harry potter book right?
[10:44] <ubuntu2> ... SPOILERS /dev/null not here plz
[10:44] <sretzki> yeah
[10:44] <ubuntu2> anyway that's old news :P
[10:44] <Rawplayer> MI
[10:44] <siorai> Oh, for the record, Aeon Flux ROCKS
[10:44] <Paradoxx> siorai: i actually just searched my cache awhile ago, and didn't see a firezilla.
[10:44] <stratking> should the connection properties for wlan0 have it listed as type: ethernet?
[10:44] <Paradoxx> EtnaRosso: firezilla is an ftp client right?
[10:44] <EtnaRosso> yes
[10:44] <siorai> Firezilla ?
[10:45] <Nakkel> EtnaRosso: Isnt Filezilla Windows software?
[10:45] <siorai> or FiLezilla ?
[10:45] <Paradoxx> EtnaRosso: is it absolutely neccesary that you use it?
[10:45] <Paradoxx> don't see a file zilla for me either
[10:45] <siorai> Mine is stratking
[10:45] <stratking> ok, thanks
[10:46] <blue-frog> eating and drinking is absolutely necessary, nothing else
[10:46] <Paradoxx> but yo ucan try yourself, just ensure you have added repos
[10:46] <Paradoxx> !addingrepositories
[10:46] <ubotu> I don't know, Paradoxx
[10:46] <Nakkel> The only Filezilla I know: http://filezilla.sourceforge.net/
[10:46] <siorai> blue frog, eating isn't even neccisary
[10:46] <Paradoxx> repos
[10:46] <EtnaRosso> is it a fools' channel?
[10:46] <Paradoxx> !repos
[10:46] <ubotu> repos is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[10:46] <EtnaRosso> Nakkel it is
[10:46] <blue-frog> siorai, tell that to ethiopan...
[10:46] <EtnaRosso> thanks for nothing bye bye
[10:47] <ishit> how do i enable write for a fat partition in breezy
[10:47] <siorai> I didn't think you could write to a win32 partition in linux??
[10:48] <ishit> of course thats poss
[10:48] <siorai> Well, either way, I'd have to add 'dying' to that neccisary list
[10:48] <mjr> siorai, you can't (easily or freely) write to an _ntfs_ partition in linux, writing fat works fine
[10:49] <siorai> Ahhh, okay mjr
[10:50] <ubuntu2> is the captive-ntfs in breezy any less prone to locking up the bus?
[10:50] <human_error> anyone know of a lightweight mp3 player that can delete the currently playing song?
[10:50] <siorai> dunno human_error
[10:50] <topyli> human_error: "rm"
[10:51] <human_error> breaks my workflow to have to shell, find the file and rm it
[10:51] <sretzki> human_error: for i in *.mp3; do mpg123 $i || rm $i;done
[10:51] <sretzki> or rather mplayer
[10:51] <Jack_Bauer> snape kills dumbledore
[10:51] <Jack_Bauer> O RLY
[10:52] <Jack_Bauer> 645 users
[10:52] <Jack_Bauer> whoa!
[10:52] <siorai> lol Jack_Bauer
[10:52] <sretzki> if you kill it, it returns 1, if you quit it, it returns 0
[10:52] <sretzki> Jack_Bauer: XD
[10:52] <Jack_Bauer> XD pwnd n00b sretzki
[10:52] <Jack_Bauer> how much are bots? 80% ;P
[10:53] <siorai> <<< not a bot
[10:53] <human_error> thanks sretzki, i'll play with some mplayers that can list the file.
[10:54] <Paradoxx> me neither
[10:54] <poningru> I had a question why does hotplug detect a wireless card?
[10:54] <Paradoxx> Jack_Bauer: generally they are just persons who have signed in, and gone afk...
[10:54] <poningru> err not detect
[10:54] <freelove> i dont hear sounds in gaim in kubuntu....plz help!
[10:54] <ubuntu2> thats what hotplug does
[10:54] <poningru> freelove: dude I would use kopete
[10:54] <poningru> ubuntu2: it doesnt detect
[10:54] <poningru> I forgot the not
[10:55] <sapo> hi all, i installed e17 yesterday, and it set my cpu to run @ 800mhz, it is a 1.8ghz.. how am i supposed to set my cpu back at 1.8ghz without e17? thanx
[10:55] <sapo> and without restarting =x
[10:55] <mischa> hi all, when i am in a terminal and ssh to somewhere i get the following message: setterm: $TERM is not defined. anyone know what that means...tanx in advance
[10:55] <mischa> scp i mean
[10:55] <aftertaf> sapo:  that sounds all wrong.
[10:56] <aftertaf> join #e and mention that.......
[10:56] <ubuntu2> oh, sorry i never had wireless cards
[10:56] <pramz> mischa, what does echo $TERM output ?
[10:56] <paul__> wow, just setup ubuntu + vmware workstation for linux + windows xp pro as a virtual machine, sexy++++!
[10:57] <topyli> sapo: a window manager surely shouldn't change clock speed. where do you see the value?
[10:57] <sapo> topyli it is an app to save power
[10:57] <stratk1ng> i figured it out :)
[10:57] <sapo> but when i logged out from it, my cpu was still @ 800mhz
[10:57] <topyli> sapo: oh, i thought you were talking about enlightenment :)
[10:57] <stratk1ng> had the wrong hostname in there from the install
[10:57] <czr> paul__, except the win xp part ;-)
[10:57] <poningru> paul__: dude dont use sexy and windows in the same sentence
[10:57] <stratk1ng> gave it the right host name and it worked
[10:57] <sapo> i was, this app comes with enlightenment :P
[10:58] <Happuf> Hey what command build packet from source?
[10:58] <topyli> Happuf: checkinstall
[10:58] <sapo> what i wanna know is if there is some command or stuff to set up the cpu clock without restarting.. i got curious about it
[10:58] <czr> happuf, depends on what kind of source it is
[10:58] <topyli> Happuf: or read the debian new maintainers guide if you want to do it properly
[10:58] <czr> Happuf, dpkg-buildpackage if it's a debianized source
[10:58] <Happuf> czr: in my foulder.
[10:58] <Happuf> Ok :)
[10:59] <Happuf> I'll try.
[10:59] <linx> i was wondering if anyone could help me install COD(isos) in cedega.... i mount the first iso but when it asks for the 2nd i mount it and then it doesn't recognize it... anyone got any other ideas?
[10:59] <czr> sapo, it's regulated normappy by cpufreq governor in the kernel
[10:59] <czr> sapo, so you need to dig info about that
[10:59] <Jack_Bauer> Paradoxx you mean 80% bots
[10:59] <Jack_Bauer> ;P
[11:00] <Jack_Bauer> ~siorai 2+2
[11:00] <czr> Jack_Bauer, you get around I see :-)
[11:00] <Jack_Bauer> haha hi czr
[11:00] <Jack_Bauer> yeh am everywhere!
[11:00] <czr> well, at least not on 50% freenode channels I'm on, so I guess I'm still safe ;-)
[11:00] <Jack_Bauer> you cannot escape from me
[11:00] <czr> I can, and I have :-)
[11:00] <Jack_Bauer> :P
[11:00] <Jack_Bauer> never i will hunt you down !
[11:00] <Jack_Bauer> heh
[11:01] <czr> I'm quite tall. so you need to hunt me up
[11:01] <Jack_Bauer> ooo ;D
[11:01] <czr> although I'm not that tall
[11:01] <czr> but if you courch, that would still work
[11:01] <czr> crouch even
[11:01] <Jack_Bauer> 10 foot 10 inches
[11:01] <czr> ewww, imperial units
[11:02] <Jack_Bauer> heh
[11:02] <czr> you have switched to the dark side?
[11:02] <stratk1ng> so are multiverse/universe stable enough to use w/ 5.10?
[11:02] <Chousuke> most of it, yes.
[11:02] <sapo> czr thanx, found this http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_make_use_of_Dynamic_Frequency_Scaling#Using_Frequency_Scaling_Governors
[11:02] <czr> sapo, looks right, have fun
[11:03] <drakeoutlaw> hi all, has anybody managed to make intel HD audio modem to work?
[11:03] <sapo> i m interested in it, cause my pc is like 22 hours/day idle downloading stuff.. so i wanna know how to use it by hand without e17 :)
[11:03] <czr> sapo, if it's idle, then the default governor should handle it
[11:03] <czr> sapo, it will scale based on CPU load
[11:04] <czr> default governor in ubuntu that is
[11:05] <sapo> czr so it is @ 800mhz cause i m not stressing it?
[11:05] <czr> sapo, yes. use uptime-command to check load levels
[11:05] <czr> start glxgears in one window, then cat /proc/cpuinfo after a while
[11:05] <czr> should be maxed at that point
[11:06] <khalif> What does UDF mean?
[11:06] <czr> khalif, depends on context
[11:06] <czr> khalif, one filesystem that one can use with DVD-ROMs for example
[11:06] <sladen> czr: powernowd is automatically configured on Ubuntu by default
[11:06] <sladen> czr: and scales the usage based on what is required
[11:07] <khalif> Thanks!
[11:07] <czr> sladen, and how exactly does that contradict with what I said? :-)
[11:08] <pramz> yay 2.6.14-ck6 compiled and running :D
[11:08] <czr> ck?
[11:08] <czr> what's that?
[11:08] <Syntux> guys, I updated my bios, and now my computer wont boot, is there any solution for this? is there anyway to reset bios or re-install it without getting into the system ?
[11:08] <pramz> ken colivas's patchset
[11:08] <pramz> Linux frozen 2.6.14-ck6 #1 Mon Dec 5 23:55:15 PST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:08] <czr> Syntux, yeah, reflash the chip outside the mobo
[11:08] <czr> Syntux, so unless you have the proper replacement chip and small-eletronics skills, I'd say no
[11:08] <sladen> czr: I didn't know who you were replying to, but hopefully the person you were will notice my messages too
[11:08] <czr> sladen, it was sapo
[11:09] <czr> sladen, could have used scrollback first ;-)
[11:09] <sladen> czr: hopefully sapo noticed :)
[11:09] <Syntux> czr, relfash the chip outside the mobo ? what's mobo ?
[11:09] <sapo> i noticed :P
[11:09] <czr> Syntux, motherboard
[11:09] <sladen> Syntux: how far ''doesn't boot''.  do you see the motherboard
[11:09] <sladen> Syntux: does 'caps-lock' work on the keyboard
[11:09] <Hentai^XP> Syntux your most likely screwed
[11:09] <czr> Syntux, 'no' is the answer you are looking for
[11:09] <Hentai^XP> unless you have dual bios board
[11:09] <mischa> pramz, rxvt
[11:10] <Syntux> sladen, bios post doesn't appear
[11:10] <czr> Syntux, wrong bios version for your motherboard.
[11:10] <sladen> Syntux: and sometimes the first 8kB is protected with a floppy-loader for reflashing even when screwed
[11:10] <drakeoutlaw> has anybody managed to make the intel HD audio modem work?
[11:10] <sladen> Syntux: okay.  Does it beep
[11:10] <ulinskie> got a q! is there MATHLAB for Linux?
[11:10] <sladen> Syntux: have you tried re-sitting the RAM
[11:10] <sladen> ulinskie: yes.  It costs $$$.
[11:11] <ulinskie> ohhhh
[11:11] <ulinskie> :(
[11:11] <linukso> ulinskie: there is, if you can afford it. You could try octave if you don't need the toolboxes or simulink
[11:11] <sladen> ulinskie: or there a GPL workalike called GNU Octave
[11:11] <syklitengutt> hi. have a question. yeasterday, I copied allot of files from a cd to my computer(ubuntu) today they are all gone(after reestart) .... any ideas?
[11:11] <linukso> ulinskie: you can get it with sudo aptitude install octave
[11:12] <sladen> syklitengutt: where did you copy them to  (/tmp gets wiped at boot)
[11:12] <drakeoutlaw> syklitengutt: They are most likely in a different location from where you thought you copied them
[11:12] <syklitengutt> to /home
[11:13] <czr> why /home?
[11:13] <czr> or you mean home directory (which is not /home)?
[11:13] <poningru> $HOME
[11:13] <syklitengutt> yea...
[11:13] <syklitengutt> places home
[11:13] <czr> then check in ls -la ~
[11:14] <ulinskie> ok.. that's good news... anybody knows if octave is preinstalled in edubuntu?
[11:14] <Chousuke> hm
[11:14] <syklitengutt> I tried do a search but it didnt found anything...
[11:15] <Chousuke> octave is probably in universe
[11:15] <czr> syklitengutt, do you remember any of the filenames that you copied?
[11:15] <czr> if you do, you could try this: find / -iname "blah*" 2> /dev/null
[11:15] <czr> where blah is the start of a filename that you remember
[11:17] <Chousuke> ulinskie: octave is not installed per default
[11:17] <syklitengutt> nothing came up. can it be beacause I didnt umout proporlie?
[11:17] <czr> syklitengutt, umount your system properly?
[11:17] <czr> that could be the reason yes
[11:18] <czr> do a 'sync' next time when in doubt
[11:18] <czr> (in a terminal)
[11:18] <syklitengutt> ok... im not used to have to do that. how to do a sync?
[11:18] <khalif> Ok the error message that I'm getting now when i try to mount my usb jumpdrive is: "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1, missing codepage or other error"
[11:19] <khalif> I don't understand I edited the fstab file like the other devices in the file. The only thing that I changed was the mount folder...
[11:20] <ubuntu2> that happens when you mount -t WRONG_FS
[11:20] <ubuntu2> if its FAT32, use -t vfat
[11:20] <gnugeek> hi world, anyone knows how I can change gtk1.2 themes in ubuntu?
[11:20] <czr> ubuntu2, nothing if WRONG_FS isn't any filesystem name in /proc/filesystems
[11:20] <lonewolff> hey, i wonder if anyone can help, i just install 64bit version of ubuntu on a new system and it wont boot, i get grub error 17 :S
[11:20] <gnugeek> all the apps under gtk1.2 are ugly
[11:20] <lonewolff> (the system has sata hard drives, which i think may be part of the problem)
[11:20] <gnugeek> how can I change it
[11:21] <gnugeek> I installed gtk-engine-industrial for that
[11:21] <gnugeek> what next?
[11:21] <gnugeek> any guru herE?
[11:21] <syklitengutt> lol.... found the files. they are in my home directory, but only as root user.... how to fix?
[11:22] <deFrysk> gnugeek, sudo apt-get install gnome-themes-extras
[11:22] <Kraiz> Grub error 17 is returned if the partition requested exists, but the filesystem type cannot be recognized by GRUB.
[11:22] <deFrysk> gnugeek, and select a theme you loike
[11:22] <syklitengutt> just make them filetype User?
[11:22] <gnugeek> i have that package
[11:22] <lonewolff> Kraiz: that is very odd, the installer should have formatted it as ext3
[11:22] <megngab> how will i make my webcam works in ubuntu 5.1
[11:22] <Kraiz> According to some Gentoo forums.
[11:22] <Shinjan> hi folks
[11:22] <gnugeek> now
[11:23] <ubuntu2> i never said it was the right one
[11:23] <deFrysk> gnugeek, system> prefs> themes
[11:23] <deFrysk> afk
[11:23] <gnugeek> ok
[11:23] <gnugeek> now?
[11:24] <gnugeek> I chose t-ish as a theme, but vlc player is still ugly
[11:24] <gnugeek> even audacity
[11:24] <robotgeek> gnugeek: vlc is built in gtk1 , those themes don't apply to vlc (they apply to gtk2 apps)
[11:25] <topyli> gnugeek: they are ugly, that's that :)
[11:25] <drakeoutlaw> syklitengutt: in aterminal window use sudo command with chown example: sudo chown <yourusername> filename. then when it asks for password, give your user password
[11:25] <deFrysk> gnugeek, vlc remains ugly in breezy
[11:25] <IRCMohan> hi guys
[11:25] <gnugeek> I changed their theme when I was using fluxbox
[11:25] <deFrysk> gnugeek, it'l be improved in dapper
[11:25] <IRCMohan> i am new to ubuntu
[11:25] <ubuntu2> moin IRCMohan
[11:26] <IRCMohan> hi mubuntu2
[11:26] <odie5533> My VLC player closes a few seconds after opening, any help?
[11:26] <IRCMohan> guys i rec ubuntu cd by mail today
[11:26] <robotgeek> IRCMohan: great, do you have a specific question you would like to ask?
[11:27] <gnugeek> when you use gtk-theme-switch
[11:27] <gnugeek> , you can change gtk1.2 themes, I changet the fonts and theme to industrial
[11:27] <gnugeek> in fluxbox it worked for gtk-1.2 apps
[11:28] <IRCMohan> i tried to run the live cd but after the hardware detection the cdrom stopped reading and it says to checkk the cd integrity
[11:28] <gnugeek> but when i run gnome, gtk1.2 is ugly again
[11:28] <IRCMohan> i did it and at various ppercent the cd fails to read man
[11:28] <dpupp> what was the process for installing jp IME in ubuntu ? i forgot..
[11:29] <IRCMohan> can u guys help me solve the issue
[11:29] <ubuntu2> IRCMohan, all the official breezy cds I have have trouble reading on old cd drives
[11:29] <gnugeek> gtk-theme-switch writes a file in ~/.gtkrc
[11:29] <ubuntu2> if you have a cdburner, use THAT to boot the livecd
[11:29] <gnugeek> file as^
[11:29] <ubuntu2> only downside is, you cant burn while that session is going
[11:29] <drakeoutlaw> IRCMohan: is it possible to use a different cd drive?
[11:29] <gnugeek> anyone?
[11:29] <gnugeek> defrysky
[11:30] <IRCMohan> man mine is anew pc Intel 3 GHZ machine
[11:30] <IRCMohan> wih 52x cd/dvd rom
[11:30] <IRCMohan> but all me 5 cds r not working
[11:30] <gnugeek> anyone?
[11:30] <MiSS_n00b> Hi ppl, whats the best way to install wine? i have a unreliable dialup connection, can i resume downloading the files if I get disconnected?
[11:30] <ashish> Hi folks
[11:30] <ashish> I am trying to compile from source
[11:31] <ashish> I ge this error
[11:31] <ashish> ashish@ash:~/freehoo-3.4.1$ sudo ./autogen.sh
[11:31] <ashish> + aclocal
[11:31] <ashish> + autoheader
[11:31] <ashish> + libtoolize --force --automake --copy
[11:31] <ashish> + automake --gnu --include-deps --copy --add-missing
[11:31] <gnugeek> gtk-theme-switch does the job in fluxbox
[11:31] <ashish> configure.ac: 16: required file `./[config.h] .in' not found
[11:31] <ashish> + autoconf
[11:31] <ashish> ashish@ash:~/freehoo-3.4.1$
[11:31] <ashish> help
[11:31] <robotgeek> ashish: dont' paste in here
[11:31] <ashish> I am sorry robotgeek
[11:31] <ashish> Plz help me someone
[11:31] <robotgeek> ashish: what are you trying to compile?
[11:32] <poningru> ashish: whats wrong?
[11:32] <IRCMohan> guys anyone can help me
[11:32] <gnugeek> what will be in Drapper?
[11:32] <ubuntu2> errr, new cd doesnt mean quality. @ IRCMohan try another drive
[11:32] <ashish> I get an eror configure.ac
[11:32] <ashish> ?
[11:32] <ashish> config.h not founs
[11:32] <ashish> found
[11:32] <gnugeek> can anyone give me list, what is breezy missing that drapper will add?
[11:32] <robotgeek> ashish: which application are you trying to build?
[11:32] <ashish> A yahoo msg
[11:32] <ashish> ?
[11:32] <robotgeek> gnugeek: it's dapper :)
[11:32] <IRCMohan> it is a HP pc man
[11:32] <gnugeek> daiper
[11:32] <poningru> !dapper
[11:33] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[11:33] <gnugeek> !dapper
[11:33] <robotgeek> ashish: yahoo messenger??? use gaim
[11:33] <syklitengutt> didnt work... The files is in My root directory and I want to move them to home Hjem/chris
[11:33] <ashish> hey I know that come on man
[11:33] <ashish> I just asked for help
[11:33] <gnugeek> thanks dude
[11:33] <robotgeek> ashish: can you tell me the name of the app you are trying to compile? i can look at the dependencies
[11:33] <ashish> ok
[11:33] <ashish> www.nongnu.org/freehoo
[11:34] <ashish> thanks dude
[11:34] <MiSS_n00b> so......... is there any kind person that will help with wine? :)
[11:34] <robotgeek> ashish: http://www.nongnu.org/freehoo/INSTALL.txt do you have all those libs?
[11:35] <ashish> yes
[11:35] <ubuntu2> ... press F2, then select the screen with optimizations listed
[11:35] <ubuntu2> when you boot the livecd
[11:35] <robotgeek> MiSS_n00b: apt-get resumes, wget also resumes
[11:35] <ubuntu2> that's all i can think of
[11:35] <ashish> Yup just installed them
[11:35] <ashish> before
[11:35] <robotgeek> ashish: also the development libraries?
[11:35] <ashish> yup
[11:35] <seriesx> Does anybody know if generic SCSI support must be compiled into the kernel if you want to be able to mount USB devices such as cameras? My camera does not automount and I don't have SCSI support in the kernel.
[11:35] <robotgeek> ashish: as in libreadline-dev
[11:35] <ashish> yes
[11:35] <MiSS_n00b> ok thnx robotgeek i wasnt sure
[11:35] <ashish> yes
[11:35] <ashish> dude
[11:36] <ashish> I have install the devel package also
[11:36] <ashish> I guess it's something gotta do with automake
[11:37] <robotgeek> ashish: lemme try
[11:37] <ashish> ok
[11:37] <poningru> seriesx: no you dont need that
[11:37] <poningru> it should automagically detect it
[11:37] <poningru> not necessarily mount
[11:38] <poningru> cause some cameras dont allow that
[11:38] <HoRoBi> hi
[11:38] <pl_ice> hey
[11:38] <seriesx> ok. my camera shows up in /proc/bus/usb/devices but how do I mount it then? I don't have any /dev/sd* nodes
[11:39] <ashish> robotgeek,
[11:39] <ashish> u there
[11:39] <ashish> ?
[11:39] <mischa> hi all, when i am in a terminal and scp something to somewhere i get the following message: setterm: $TERM is not defined. anyone know what that means...tanx in advance
[11:39] <robotgeek> ashish: trying, wait one moment
[11:39] <mischa> echo $TERM gives rxvt
[11:39] <ashish> okie
[11:40] <robotgeek> ashish: meanwhile, post your error to pastebin please.
[11:40] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell ashish about pastebin
[11:42] <odie5533> What other decent general programming editors are there besides gedit for ubuntu gnome?
[11:42] <ashish> dude
[11:42] <czr> gedit isn't a programming editor ;-)
[11:42] <pl_ice> where is my car :)
[11:43] <mjr> odie5533, anjuta
[11:43] <czr> there are various IDEs out there
[11:43] <odie5533> I noticed that, its not that good for it either...
[11:43] <czr> was going to suggest anjuta, it's rather heavy but ok
[11:43] <odie5533> I wanted more of a general editor like EditPad is for windows
[11:43] <czr> I use mcedit ;--)
[11:43] <robotgeek> ashish: are you sure you compiled libyahoo2 correctly, just asking
[11:43] <czr> which is even less a programming editor than gedit ;-)
[11:43] <robotgeek> gvim
[11:43] <ashish> yes no doubt
[11:43] <czr> heh
[11:43] <ashish> ?
[11:43] <czr> should learn vi one of these days
[11:44] <ashish> robotgeek, is it working for you ?
[11:44] <czr> I think that's a mantra I've been repeating for over 10 years now
[11:44] <syklitengutt> how to chmod all files in a folder from fileowner root to chris?
[11:44] <ubuntu2> some editors dont work for people, no shame there
[11:44] <ubuntu2> i hate emacs
[11:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> syklitengutt: chown
[11:44] <czr> syklitengutt, chmod -R newowner.newgroupowner path/to/dir
[11:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> sudo chown chis *
[11:45] <czr> syklitengutt, and please forget about 'folder'. use directory instead ;-)
[11:45] <syklitengutt> k
[11:45] <odie5533> does gvim support code folding?
[11:46] <robotgeek> odie5533: yes
[11:46] <robotgeek> ashish: i'm compiling libyahoo atm
[11:46] <paul__> hi all, wondering if its possible to mount ntfs drives?
[11:46] <ashish> k
[11:46] <Myrtti> !ntfs
[11:46] <ubotu> it has been said that ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[11:46] <paul__> lovely
[11:47] <czr> hmm. ntfs was used already in nt3.51
[11:47] <syklitengutt> I get this: to few arguments.
[11:47] <czr> syklitengutt, what was the command that you typed?
[11:47] <czr> syklitengutt, something is missing from it
[11:48] <syklitengutt> chmod -R chris from its directory
[11:49] <czr> chmod -R chris .
[11:49] <czr> you need to give the path to directory always (or list of filenames)
[11:49] <czr> . = current working directory
[11:49] <Seveas> chmod -R chris won't work
[11:50] <Seveas> I guess you mean chown
[11:50] <ashish> I just compiled libyahoo2
[11:50] <ashish> still same errors for freehoo
[11:50] <robotgeek> ashish: /autogen.sh: line 6: libtoolize: command not found
[11:50] <czr> oh yeah, chown ;-)
[11:50] <czr> was blinded by the other error
[11:51] <ashish> I have line no 6
[11:51] <ashish> configure.a
[11:51] <ashish> configure.ac
[11:51] <robotgeek> ashish: moment, installing libtool
[11:51] <syklitengutt>  invalid mode string: chris
[11:51] <ashish> config.h file not found
[11:51] <czr> syklitengutt, you're using the wrong command. not chmod, chown!
[11:52] <syklitengutt> k
[11:52] <czr> you also should run it with root-privileges
[11:52] <czr> changing ownership of files is a privileged operation
[11:52] <hfx> hiyas
[11:52] <robotgeek> ashish: i was able to create a configure file
[11:52] <ashish> oh
[11:53] <ashish> where the hell is the problem
[11:53] <ashish> ?
[11:53] <hfx> how do i make gedit save into a samba share? right now it opens all files oin the share read-only
[11:53] <ashish> I am not able to figure out which package
[11:53] <robotgeek> ashish:  sudo apt-get install libglib1.2 libglib1.2-dev libguile9 libguile-dev libreadline5-dev
[11:53] <czr> hfx, you need to mount the samba share so that the rights are what you need, not a problem in gedit
[11:53] <robotgeek> ashish: then, rebuild libyahoo
[11:53] <czr> hfx, man mount, then search for uid,gid
[11:54] <RezDawg> New to linux, when im playing a game in window i can alt+tab to get back to the desktop or switch to another app that is open, is there a equal in linux?
[11:54] <syklitengutt> ok.... tnx. that changed the fileowner, but how about file group?
[11:54] <czr> syklitengutt, scrollback and read my first response to your question
[11:54] <czr> syklitengutt, in short, learn to read what people write you ;-)
[11:54] <aeon17x> RezDawg: equal in Linux?
[11:54] <syklitengutt> tnx
[11:54] <hfx> czr, thanks. is there also a possibility to mount from gnome? or kde?
[11:55] <RezDawg> aeon17x, is there key combo in linux that will do the samething
[11:55] <ashish> ok i am installing
[11:55] <aeon17x> RezDawg: of course.
[11:55] <czr> hfx, probably. I use automount myself so don't know the specifics in gnome/kde
[11:55] <RezDawg> aeon17x, would you be so kind and enlighten me please
[11:55] <paul__> that ntfs way mounted it perfectly, however now i'm having trouble associating the media/ drives with vmware ;/
[11:55] <hfx> thx :)
[11:55] <ashish> even after installing same problem
[11:56] <ashish> dude
[11:56] <paul__> is there a way to make them accessable via /dev/hdb2 etc,
[11:56] <robotgeek> ashish: my ./configure is failing, one sec
[11:56] <aeon17x> RezDawg: ALT tab switches windows, CTRL ALT D shows the desktop.
[11:56] <ashish> my ./autogen.sh itself is failing
[11:56] <czr> paul__, you mean you have mounted the filesystem and also want vmware to use the same ntfs at the same time?
[11:56] <czr> paul__, that would break ntfs seriously
[11:57] <RezDawg> aeon17x, well ill try again, but when i tried alt+tab in ubuntu nothing happened
[11:57] <aeon17x> RezDawg: what kind of windows are up?
[11:57] <robotgeek> ashish: sudo apt-get install automake1.4
[11:57] <ubuntu2> ... for vmware, giving it access to /dev/hda1, etc is dangerous
[11:57] <ubuntu2> and well, unwise
[11:57] <ashish> I guess I installed it
[11:57] <ubuntu2> just give it access to the mounted volume name
[11:57] <ashish> yes it is already installed
[11:58] <RezDawg> aeon17x, i was playing a game and wanted to get back to the desktop, so ill try adding the d to the action
[11:58] <paul__> czr, eek, didnt think aboutit like that, is there anyother way to go about it?
[11:58] <aeon17x> RezDawg: what game?
[11:58] <paul__> perhaps setup some local smb shares of the /media/* drives?
[11:58] <robotgeek> ashish: then, i dunno what's wrong
[11:58] <CppIsWeird> how do i make the windows boot loader have the option to boot kubuntu?
[11:58] <ashish> oh
[11:58] <czr> paul, use shared folders inside vmware to transfer files between the host and vm machine
[11:58] <czr> paul__, I guess that is what you want to do, right?
[11:58] <paul__> yeap
[11:59] <paul__> didnt know there was such option
[11:59] <czr> read vmware manual 'shared folders' ;-)
[11:59] <czr> vmware contains oodles of fun stuff
[11:59] <RezDawg> aeon17x, i was playing americas army and when you die you have to wait til next round to start playing so when i play in windows i usually alt+tab out and mess around til beginning next round and want to do the same thing now that i use linux
[11:59] <paul__> oooh sneaky its on a different tab, thanks alot czr
[12:00] <czr> paul__, np. have fun :-). and read the manual on how to use it from windows side, it's a bit interesting ;-)
[12:00] <aeon17x> RezDawg: I don't know, it's likely the game is preventing you from switching.
[12:00] <RezDawg> aeon17x, well you have given me something to try, so thanks. hope it will work
[12:01] <ashish> heh I picked it up from the CVS
[12:01] <ashish> it worked
[12:01] <vbgunz> RezDawg: I believe you can probably open up another x session... That might work *but* am not too sure how it might effect your work, play habit
[12:01] <vbgunz> czr: you use vmware?
[12:02] <czr> vbgunz, yeah, sometimes
[12:02] <czr> actually have 5.10 running in vmware right now
[12:02] <vbgunz> czr: have you upgraded to 5.5 yet?
[12:02] <czr> been using it for many years
[12:02] <czr> no, not yet
[12:02] <RezDawg> vbgunz, well like i said im new to linux so opening another x session sounds a little advance but it might be simple. problem is how am i going to open another session while ingame
[12:02] <vbgunz> oh, you're on Windows, using Ubuntu in vmware?
[12:02] <czr> I should test it out, with the vmware player stuff
[12:03] <czr> vbgunz, no, on linux :-)
[12:03] <czr> vbgunz, but I don't want to mess up my custom distro ;-)
[12:03] <robotgeek> ashish: cool
[12:03] <czr> vbgunz, I'm running 4.0 actually
[12:04] <czr> the upgrade is about 100USD, but I don't really need it right now, so I'm sticking with 4.0 until I have more time to play with it
[12:04] <vbgunz> RezDawg: Applications > System Tools > New Login... Then Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back to your old login... then to get back to the game, Ctrl+Alt+F8 through 12 to find it... it will probably be on F8 or F9...
[12:04] <RezDawg> vbgunz, thanks i will try that also.
[12:05] <vbgunz> czr: I upgraded from 5.0 on Ubuntu to 5.5 on Ubuntu and I am running Windows XP professional in vmware... Windows media player worked fine in 5.0 but turned real shottie in 5.5 ... it is barely unusable...
[12:05] <ashish> robotgeek, fixing some dependencies
[12:05] <robotgeek> ashish: i finished compiling :)
[12:05] <vbgunz> RezDawg: just an idea, until you find out how to Alt+Tab out ;)
[12:05] <czr> vbgunz, never use media player, so can't really help you. can't you downgrade?
[12:06] <syklitengutt> tnx for all your help, but im pretty new on linux and ubuntu so most of this is a bit strange.... Have been a hardcore Win user...
[12:06] <vbgunz> czr: yeah, but 5.5 fixed a few bugs that I appreciate
[12:06] <czr> vbgunz, have you checked the vmware forums?
[12:06] <ashish> meet too
[12:06] <vbgunz> czr: its cool, no biggie
[12:06] <czr> vbgunz, ok :-)
[12:06] <ashish> but I am get some error here
[12:06] <ashish> system tag or some crap
[12:06] <czr> vbgunz, you tried making vmware player images yet?
[12:06] <robotgeek> ashish: same, ignore :)
[12:06] <CppIsWeird> has anyone ever attempted to install ubuntu on an external USB drive?
[12:06] <czr> syklitengutt, you should find a tutorial on how to use UNIX somewhere with google
[12:06] <henk> hi, i'm trying to do :   >> gnome-terminal -e 'ssh foo.bar.nl' --name=foobar  << to have a terminal with an ssh session to an external host with the name of that host on my taskbar. but the progam name stays 'terminal'  can  anyone tell me how to do it ?
[12:06] <vbgunz> czr: I been used Ghost, but vmware player is no where near as good as vmware images for sure :P
[12:07] <robotgeek> ashish: a better client i think is centericq, cli and all too
[12:07] <vbgunz> czr: plus the player sucks imho
[12:07] <ashish> this is my company folks have written this prog
[12:07] <czr> vbgunz, you have tried it? I haven't, that's why I ask. why does it suck?
[12:07] <selinium> CppIsWeird, There are tutorials out in google land about it! :) But you are better off using a microdrive, usb has a limited number of read/write cycles
[12:07] <robotgeek> ashish: oh okay.
[12:08] <charles> hi everyone
[12:08] <selinium> hi charles
[12:08] <Fubber> Is there an alternative to Evolution, I need to connect to MS Exchange Server and Evo is crap
[12:08] <czr> selinium, all flash do internal wear-levelling nowadays
[12:08] <syklitengutt> have done that and learned allot.... have learned allot about f.ex xorg and grub after some problems. but something just wont stick in my mind.
[12:08] <czr> selinium, most flash does :-)
[12:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> Fubber: not realy no
[12:08] <CppIsWeird> selinium, no theres not
[12:08] <ashish> thanks dude robotgeek
[12:08] <vbgunz> czr: no options anywhere near the options you have in vmware ws... Also, I couldn't install vmware tools and couldn't get the res passed 640x480... I hardly played with it though but saw the options... there were like 3 or so, all dumb too, forgot what they were
[12:08] <robotgeek> ashish: np
[12:08] <frogzo1> Fubber:  for exchange, I think it's Evo or nothing
[12:08] <czr> Fubber, you could try using IMAP instead. exchange does that. not for calendars though
[12:08] <charles> i'm new to linux, but so far so good
[12:09] <czr> vbgunz, but the player is meant for playing ready made images, so one should really prepare the images with proper settings
[12:09] <czr> vbgunz, I'm going to test it out for a weird idea I have
[12:09] <Fubber> Frankly the Exchange support is dire, My sent Items get fired back into my Inbox aswell, whats the deal with that!
[12:09] <vbgunz> czr: I guess using the player is more for checking out an image Vs working with one...
[12:09] <czr> vbgunz, yes. it's for software demos and presentations and stuff
[12:09] <CppIsWeird> iv only been at this 6 hours now, dont you think iv tried google a few times? i get so tired of people who dont know what the answer is suggest google just to hear themselves speak.
[12:09] <czr> vbgunz, if it would be vmware workstation then it couldn't be free, right?
[12:10] <czr> CppIsWeird, what is your problem?
[12:10] <odie5533> is the 8 spaces for a tab in vim standard?
[12:10] <vbgunz> czr: yeah, I currently use vmware for Windows development and nothing more... I checked out the player on my Ghost images and found it very slow... too slow :(
[12:10] <selinium> CppIsWeird, Firstly I have found google sites with tutorials on the subjectotherwise I would not say so. Secondly, I was looking them up, but now look yourself!
[12:11] <CppIsWeird> czr: kubuntu installs fine on my external usb drive, but it wont boot no matter what i do
[12:11] <czr> vbgunz, ok. btw, you use ghost?
[12:11] <ubuntu2> once you multiboot, it pays to just stop using the MS bootloader
[12:11] <CppIsWeird> i tried installing frub to the usb drive, to the main drive, having windows boot it
[12:11] <czr> CppIsWeird, there are many things that stop your computer from booting over usb
[12:11] <vbgunz> czr: yes
[12:11] <czr> CppIsWeird, bios being the main culprit
[12:11] <CppIsWeird> my bios supports it
[12:11] <czr> vbgunz, ah, I have a question, privmsg ok?
[12:11] <vbgunz> czr: I love Ghost...
[12:11] <vbgunz> czr: ok
[12:11] <selinium> czr: Is your bios set to boot from USB first?
[12:11] <czr> CppIsWeird, then you need a boot sector that supports your bios way of mapping drives
[12:11] <ubuntu2> ghost.radified.com <3 my babies
[12:12] <czr> selinium, not me ;-)
[12:12] <selinium> CppIsWeird,  Is your bios set to boot from USB first?
[12:12] <czr> ah, vbgunz, ubuntu2 also uses ghost
[12:12] <czr> so I'll just ask here, highly OT though
[12:12] <vbgunz> czr: what do you mean?
[12:12] <czr> suppose I have ghost image files. how to restore them while running in linux?
[12:13] <CppIsWeird> czr, how would i go about finding that information? are there protocol names i should look for in my hardware documentation?
[12:13] <ubuntu2> dont think ghost works in wine
[12:13] <vbgunz> czr: I have a dual boot system... On Windows, I have Ghost and Games... When I've done enough work with Ubuntu, I back it up with Ghost... I love it because a restore really only takes less than 5 minutes... The sweetest backup and restore times hands down imho :)
[12:13] <ubuntu2> anyway, I'm not sure of anything > 2001
[12:13] <czr> CppIsWeird, trial and error unfortunately
[12:14] <CppIsWeird> what i dont understand is the ubuntu H2 device boots just fine aslong as the supporting devies supports booting from usb
[12:14] <czr> CppIsWeird, 'usb-storage' is the model that is used to access stuff over usb (disks, flash, cd-rom)
[12:14] <ubuntu2> even though the image I made of an OEM PC was made in a later version (hence can't be accessed)
[12:14] <czr> we're using ghost to install computers at work
[12:14] <czr> and the install system sucks-a-plenty
[12:14] <czr> based on dos-floppies and broken lanman over netbeui
[12:14] <ubuntu2> which VERSION
[12:14] <CppIsWeird> you wouldent happen to know how h2 does its booting do you?
[12:15] <czr> ubuntu2, old one. I think we now have 8.xmt
[12:15] <czr> something -)
[12:15] <czr> CppIsWeird, what is h2?
[12:15] <CppIsWeird> is there a tool that would check a devices MBR from within windows?
[12:15] <vbgunz> ubuntu2: I tried using wine for Trillian... *but* Trillian just wouldn't play nicely... I gave up rather quickly on wine and settled with Gaim... Can't wait for version 2...
[12:15] <CppIsWeird> http://www.zinside.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=46
[12:16] <selinium> CppIsWeird, Obvoiulsy this site doesn't exist in Google? http://www6.tomshardware.com/howto/20051110/
[12:16] <CppIsWeird> Ubuntu H2 : Bootable USB 3GB Micro Hard Drive with Ubuntu Linux
[12:16] <ubuntu2> 8 is still old, but its the one with taht activation iirc
[12:16] <ubuntu2> ... never used wine in my life
[12:16] <czr> ubuntu2, why would we need a newer version?
[12:16] <czr> I want a version that runs within Linux
[12:16] <CppIsWeird> selinium: try listening and stop being an asshat, if you would read as i have, you would see that ubuntu H2 is a preinstalled ubuntu on a usb microdrive
[12:16] <CppIsWeird> you are now on ignore, have a nice day
[12:16] <czr> that would allow me to scrap the dos-crap and move to pure pxe-install stuff
[12:17] <ubuntu2> i was saying go older czr
[12:17] <czr> ubuntu2, older? why?
[12:17] <ubuntu2> ... telling people they're on ignore is no fun
[12:17] <czr> I wonder whether running ghost under dosemu would work
[12:17] <ubuntu2> letting them figure it out on their own ^^
[12:17] <khalif> I'm trying to install kfstab, but i keep getting this error: " Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open". Any ideas?
[12:17] <czr> heh ubuntu2
[12:18] <CppIsWeird> its in hopes that they stop their mindless rambeling
[12:18] <czr> CppIsWeird, so your problem is that H2 doesn't work on your computer?
[12:18] <vbgunz> czr: why not just dual boot? Having Windows on it's own partition and dual booting is extremely handy...
[12:18] <ubuntu2> ... sudo?
[12:18] <CppIsWeird> h2 to my knowledge only exists on that device
[12:18] <CppIsWeird> i dont have h2
[12:18] <CppIsWeird> lmfao
[12:18] <CppIsWeird> im going in circles
[12:18] <czr> vbgunz, as I said, we use it to install computers at works. we reinstall about 200 different configs on 10 different machine models
[12:18] <czr> at work even
[12:18] <CppIsWeird> how do i make the windows boot loader have the option to boot kubuntu?
[12:18] <CppIsWeird> oopse
[12:18] <ubuntu2> what about h3... or the new '06 model.. h6 (no h4/5 here)
[12:18] <CppIsWeird> wrong one
[12:18] <hfx> trying to mount an nfs share. keep getting "mount: RPC: Program not registered". what's wrong?
[12:18] <czr> CppIsWeird, it would still require the BIOS to boot it
[12:19] <czr> CppIsWeird, what does your bios say when you try to boot off usb?
[12:19] <czr> hfx, have you started portmap?
[12:19] <czr> I had to install it separately for 5.10
[12:19] <CppIsWeird> doesnt say anything, but it detects the drive specifically in the bios
[12:19] <vbgunz> czr: oh
[12:19] <hfx> czr, yep
[12:19] <CppIsWeird> and i have checcked the stats on my bioos, its up to par
[12:19] <czr> hfx, dmesg/firewalling?
[12:19] <CppIsWeird> whatever's going wrong its putting a MBR on the usb drive
[12:20] <khalif> I'm suing sudo aptitude install kfstab, but I keep getting this error: " Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open"
[12:20] <syklitengutt> but I have a strange problem. I have followed this guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion but im missing all my plugins after this...  tried to cp the plugins in my mozilla folder to /opt/Firefox but when I type about:plugins in FF none is listed
[12:20] <CppIsWeird> which i dont think the ubuntu isntaller was prepared for
[12:20] <czr> CppIsWeird, buggy bios then, really. have you looked for linux booting MBRs?
[12:20] <CppIsWeird> omfg
[12:20] <czr> I had the same thing with compaq nc4000 laptop
[12:20] <czr> supports usb booting but only with a non-standard MBR
[12:20] <CppIsWeird> has anyone installed kubuntu on an external USB hard drive?
[12:20] <czr> the standard ones didn't work with the BIOS
[12:20] <vbgunz> czr: I use 9 and man I wish it had the option of ghost distro images... Currently you have to use the restore CD which takes forever... I wish the restore was just one click or two click restore...
[12:20] <czr> vbgunz, indeed
[12:21] <Hentai^XP> sup CppIsWeird
[12:21] <CppIsWeird> hey dewd
[12:21] <hfx> czr, dmesg doesn't give me anything about nfs :o/ firewalling is disabled afaik, lemme check
[12:21] <czr> now the only way I can do it is a) boot linux over pxe, b) transfer ghost images to a second partition (at the end of disk), c) setup disk to boot from second part, ghost is there too, d) when pc boots, it will start ghost automatically to restore images on first partition
[12:21] <utente> ciao
[12:21] <czr> hfx, dmesg should give you something
[12:21] <hfx> czr, iptables is accepting everything
[12:22] <selinium_> CppIsWeird, I apologise for being ubrupt, but I was only trying to help. I really get annoyed with people who just throw help back, I was looking stuff up for you? I would like to help because it is something I am interested in.
[12:22] <czr> hfx, weird. ping to server ok?
[12:22] <czr> hfx, you have portmap running on the server and firewall on that box is ok? :-)
[12:22] <paul__> czr, i've setup shared folders, however i cant seem to figure out how to access it from the vmware winxp pro session.
[12:22] <hfx> czr, naw, nothing. do i need to pass it an argument?
[12:22] <paul__> what is the normal approach to accessing it?
[12:22] <ubuntu2> say what? since when do you need a CD to restore ghost images
[12:22] <czr> paul__, read the manual ;-)
[12:23] <czr> paul__, windows exporer //.host/share blah. smt like that
[12:23] <hfx> ping is ok
[12:23] <ubuntu2> ... run ghost/ghostpe ... open, restore, image, browse to image location, select, press OK
[12:23] <czr> ubuntu2,  from within windows?
[12:23] <hfx> czr, portmap is running also on the server
[12:23] <paul__> it states n a Windows virtual machine, shared folders appear as folders on a designated drive letter
[12:23] <ubuntu2> ... no ghost works truly in windoes
[12:23] <paul__> however this doesnt occur..
[12:24] <ubuntu2> the shell doesnt let you access low-level functions
[12:24] <CppIsWeird> selinium: no worries, im just tired an agrivated.
[12:24] <czr> ubuntu2, so you need a dos first to run ghost right? so why not have a CD that has dos and ghost and networking
[12:24] <hfx> czr, policy is all accept on that box either
[12:24] <ubuntu2> 2003, upwards work with the loader in win32, but then it boots to dos
[12:24] <czr> ubuntu2, I know a thing or two about legacy systems, no news to me ;-)
[12:24] <ubuntu2> ... that you need the professional version of ghost .. see ghost.radified.com
[12:24] <czr> ubuntu2, doesn't help
[12:25] <rMax> dzien dobry
[12:25] <czr> hfx, hmm, weird
[12:25] <hfx> czr, funny...even on the server it gives me the same message
[12:25] <ubuntu2> old hardware didnt have pxe
[12:25] <czr> hfx, sounds like portmap is broken. try restarting nfs stuff
[12:25] <ubuntu2> thats the.. boot using NIC EEPROM right
[12:25] <hfx> czr, that command right: "mount -t nfs server:/srv/HFX /mnt"?
[12:25] <czr> old hardware can be booted with etherboot-pxe-floppy
[12:25] <CppIsWeird> anyways, im going to bed, i will pick this up again tommorrow
[12:25] <ubuntu2> what's a pxe?
[12:25] <czr> besides, we don't have old hardware, so it's not an issue
[12:25] <CppIsWeird> good night everyone
[12:26] <czr> preboot-execution-environment. a mechanism for bios to get IP via DHCP and load kernel and stuff over TFTP and execute that
[12:26] <vbgunz> ubuntu2: I have ghost 9 and am afraid booting it from dos is hell to pay... Ghost needs a "recovery CD" that I am aware of and then with it, you'll get a gui to choose from so many options "scanning disk for viruses, etc" restore files or disk is there too, just takes more time to boot into cd than actually restoring the image :P
[12:26] <czr> some bioses call it 'boot from network'
[12:26] <hfx> gnah
[12:26] <czr> hfx, yes
[12:26] <rMax> ktos tu gada po polsku?
[12:26] <czr> rmax, english only please
[12:27] <hfx> czr, got it
[12:27] <czr> hfx, it works now?
[12:27] <ubuntu2> maybe there's a #ubuntu-pl channel?
[12:27] <hfx> had to reatart the nfs server, not just reload ^^
[12:27] <rMax> ale ja nie znam english
[12:27] <czr> hfx, heh :-)
[12:27] <hfx> retard Lol yea. meant restart ;)
[12:27] <ubuntu2> vbgunz, AH that thing, thats the version i stay away from... you need that cd for the "key" to unlock the images
[12:27] <czr> /etc/init.d/nfs retard
[12:28] <hfx> *g*
[12:28] <hfx> thanx for your help, czr :)
[12:28] <czr> nfs: process 2032 now succesfully retarded
[12:28] <czr> hfx, np :-)
[12:28] <ubuntu2> symantec took it out the next version i think. as for previous.. only loss there is images created in newer versions cant be read
[12:28] <vbgunz> ubuntu2 yup... It isn't like the old one... the old one was better in a sense
[12:30] <czr> ubuntu2, your needs some loving IMHO :-)
[12:30] <czr> +site
[12:31] <rickardg> Anybody had any luck installing ruby bindings for sqlite on Breezy?
[12:31] <czr> ubuntu2, the reason why I want to use linux is that I can go full network boot - install over network way
[12:32] <ubuntu2> ?
[12:32] <czr> relating to the 'running ghost from linux'
[12:33] <ubuntu2> oh right
[12:33] <ubuntu2> i dont imagine it would be impossibl
[12:33] <ubuntu2> e, but i have no idea HOW-to to help you.
[12:34] <MiSS_n00b> hi, I started installing wine with "apt-get install wine" and I got cut off... how do i resume downloading
[12:34] <czr> ubuntu2, that's ok. most of my projects are trying to do something that hasn't been done before, so I'm quite used to finding out and testing myself ;-)
[12:34] <ubuntu2> is there a --resume ?
[12:35] <MiSS_n00b> no
[12:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> it should resume by itself
[12:36] <ubuntu2> if it got cut off in the download, you can wget the remaining
[12:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> apt- should resume
[12:36] <czr> MiSS_n00b, just repeat the command
[12:36] <czr> should resume automatically
[12:36] <ubuntu2> but running it again might resume it, since its intelligent about where it left off
[12:36] <MiSS_n00b> nvm this workeed root@ubuntu:~ # apt-get install wine --fix-missing
[12:37] <ubuntu2> wee!
[12:38] <jck> hi
[12:39] <jck> has anyone configured ubuntu breezy badger with lvm on raid1?
[12:39] <derek[] > hello people
[12:39] <derek[] > when I add the Japanese input method in Keyboard preferences
[12:39] <derek[] > it eats up the 'tilde'
[12:39] <derek[] > any idea why?
[12:39] <derek[] > or how to set up the JP input method without any problems
[12:40] <derek[] > ?
[12:41] <czr> ubuntu2, you know anything about older ghosts?
[12:41] <ubuntu2> older than 2001?
[12:42] <czr> I don't know how the product numbers go
[12:42] <ubuntu2> if yes, then no. I believe that was the first time i saw radified's page
[12:42] <czr> I see manuals for 2003, 10.0 and 9.0
[12:42] <topyli> derek[] : the tilde is a dead key, at least in my keyboard layout. try following it with a space
[12:42] <ubuntu2> which turned me onto ghost
[12:42] <ubuntu2> right
[12:42] <derek[] > topyli, hmm
[12:42] <ubuntu2> his page lists versions to years iirc
[12:42] <czr> but not older. I assume that 8.x is older than 9.0
[12:42] <derek[] > ~
[12:42] <topyli> there you go
[12:42] <derek[] > I can type it ,  topyli ,  when I remove the JP layout
[12:42] <topyli> oh
[12:42] <derek[] > yeah :(
[12:43] <czr> ah, 2003 looks more familiar
[12:43] <derek[] > it works fine while keeping the Russian layout along though
[12:43] <frogzo1> Acronis beats the shiz outta ghost - though not really on topic :-/
[12:43] <ubuntu2> OH, i can check for you
[12:44] <ubuntu2> if ubuntu supports mounting floppy images
[12:44] <ubuntu2> is that the dd magic?
[12:47] <topyli> ubuntu2: from man mount: mount /tmp/fdimage /mnt -t msdos -o loop=/dev/loop3,blocksize=1024
[12:48] <topyli> you don't have to specify the loop device IIRC, just use -o loop
[12:48] <khalif> How can I find out which fikesystems are enabled in Kubuntu 5.10? I tried looking in the wiki, but there was no info.....
[12:48] <MiSS_n00b> is there any kind of firewall installed by default on ubuntu
[12:49] <topyli> MiSS_n00b: no
[12:49] <mauper> try firestarter
[12:49] <mauper> nice basic iptables voodoomagic ;)
[12:50] <MiSS_n00b> will i need a firewall? this connects to the internet through a firewalled windoze box
[12:50] <topyli> MiSS_n00b: no
[12:50] <MiSS_n00b> ok ty
[12:50] <ubuntu2> err ? sudo mount /path/to/mounted/file /current/file/location -t vfat -o loop=/dev/loop3,blocksize1024 you mean? or is FAT12 different than FAT32
[12:51] <MiSS_n00b> fat12? o.O
[12:51] <mauper> MiSS_n00b: but you should still install it ;)
[12:51] <khalif> I think thats fat16...
[12:51] <ubuntu2> floppies are FAT12 i thought
[12:51] <ubuntu2> since they're 2.88 MiB at the max
[12:51] <topyli> ubuntu2: try vfat and msdos for starters
[12:52] <khalif> fat16 was Windows 95 and fat32 is Windows 98
[12:52] <ubuntu2> k well gotta access my 2ndary cd now, the one that doesnt read so well
[12:52] <topyli> mauper: because nothing is listening to any ports by default anyway
[12:52] <Hentai^XP> floppys are fat12
[12:53] <MiSS_n00b> :-S
[12:53] <Hentai^XP> usually
[12:53] <mauper> topyli: are you sure ?
[12:53] <cowpat1989> hey, can someone send me the compiled rtl8180 drivers for preezy if possible
[12:53] <topyli> that's the design
[12:53] <khalif> Is there a way to see what file systems are supported currently by Ubuntu?
[12:54] <czr> khalif, what are you looking for?
[12:54] <[Jonne] > is anyone else having problems configuring his network card in dapper?
[12:54] <mauper> khalif: /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-686/kernel/fs/ ?
[12:54] <cowpat1989> i meant breezy before
[12:55] <[Jonne] > I did a server install from the hoary cd, dist-upgraded to breezy, installed kubuntu-desktop
[12:55] <[Jonne] > it went wrong when I dist-upgraded to dapper.
[12:55] <khalif> I'm trying to edit my fstab so I can mount my usb pen drive, but i think that I'm listing the wrong file system...
[12:55] <[Jonne] > My previous dapper install worked ok
[12:55] <Ng> [Jonne] : dapper is unstable, so it's pretty likely it will be broken on some days, don't run it if you don't know how to fix things ;)
[12:55] <Gokee2> Hello everyone I have a Compaq Presario M2000 with a ATI sound card.  I have been having a lot of problems getting it to work and heard it worked off the bat in ubuntu so I was wondering if anyone here has simaler hardware?
[12:55] <topyli> [Jonne] : perhaps it wasn't broken when you last installed it, but is broken today
[12:56] <[Jonne] > problem is that i can't fix my network, which means I can't do apt-get update regularely
[12:56] <czr> kkhalif, use vfat as the driver
[12:56] <kyncani> khalif: you can set the fs to auto
[12:56] <[Jonne] > i could live with broken stiuff, it's just that it won't fix itself now
[12:56] <czr> or vfat,auto
[12:57] <khalif> I tried that, but I keep getting error messages. I think that it has to be explicilty listed...
[12:57] <czr> khalif, try mount manually first
[12:57] <czr> mouting
[12:57] <mauper> Gokee2: I would give it a try, works like a charm for me on my off-the-shelf notebook
[12:57] <Ng> [Jonne] : I would suggest you install breezy and stay there :)
[12:57] <spacey> [Jonne] , whats wrong with your network then?
[12:57] <spacey> Ng, yeah thats best advice:)
[12:57] <kyncani> khalif: usb disks are supposed to be mounted automagically anyway ?
[12:58] <[Jonne] > I'm not sure, but I can't set the gateway ip address
[12:58] <[Jonne] > i think that's the problem
[12:58] <cowpat1989> anyone know how to get a rt8180 ieee 802.11b wireless card working
[12:58] <khalif> When i try to mount manually, it ask for file system type.
[12:58] <MiSS_n00b> dchp
[12:58] <Gokee2> mauper, I would load ubuntu on it but I need it going by tomarrow and I have done a bunch of bug fixes in debian
[12:58] <topyli> [Jonne] : dapper is like that :)
[12:58] <khalif> Yeah it's supposed to, but mine doesn't! :(
[12:58] <[Jonne] > it's not dhcp, btw, it's a manual config
[12:58] <spacey> [Jonne] , /etc/network/interfaces
[12:58] <czr> khalif, try passing -tvfat to mount command
[12:58] <kbrooks> Gokee2, btw ltns
[12:58] <[Jonne] > what can I find there?
[12:58] <czr> khalif, also do modprobe vfat first
[12:59] <[Jonne] > I mean, what should i do there
[12:59] <czr> jonne, man interfaces
[12:59] <Gokee2> kbrooks, ltns?
[12:59] <spacey> check if its configured right there
[12:59] <Ng> czr: that's just compounding the problem really
[12:59] <spacey> and in emergency you could even configure it with ifconfig directly
[12:59] <czr> Ng, which one?
[12:59] <leagris> Any Firefox 1.5 Breezy packaged ?
[01:00] <topyli> leagris: no
[01:00] <Ng> czr: if he doesn't know about the network interfaces file he certainly shouldn't be running dapper
[01:00] <mauper> Gokee2: then stay with the system that works for you, if it is mission critical ;)
[01:00] <czr> Ng, why explain that to me? obviously he wants to run dapper, so :-)
[01:00] <Gokee2> mauper, It also needs sound :(
[01:00] <mauper> all I can say is that my average ubuntu install takes about 30 minutes
[01:00] <Gokee2> hmmm
[01:00] <[Jonne] > spacey, i tried ifconfig, and that didn't work
[01:01] <czr> jonne, does ifconfig -a list eth0 for you?
[01:01] <spacey> what did you try with ifconfig :P
[01:01] <Ng> czr: I want to go into space, but I don't join #rockets and ask how to mix rocket fuel ;)
[01:01] <czr> ng, people come in different shapes and sizes ;-)
[01:01] <mauper> Gokee2: and if the sound on your current system doesn't work either, why not try ?
[01:01] <[Jonne] > czr not after startup, when I do ifconfig eth0 etc, it's listed
[01:01] <Gokee2> mauper, Because I don`t have a extra partishin
[01:02] <czr> jonne, ifconfig -a ?
[01:02] <topyli> [Jonne] : this isn't actually the best place to talk about dapper. if you want to fix it, join the developers channel. if you want dapper support, then tough luck
[01:02] <kbrooks> Gokee2, long time no see
[01:02] <kyncani> [Jonne] : Ng is right, if you cannot fix things yourself, you should not run dapper
[01:02] <mauper> Gokee2: you have a current debian install ?
[01:02] <Gokee2> kbrooks, ah yes :)
[01:02] <czr> ng, I'd be careful before attributing 'blind' to me. I've been using and building distros for 10 years now
[01:02] <Gokee2> mauper, yes
[01:02] <mauper> Gokee2: no space for resize ?
[01:02] <davro> hi, is there a way to recover items deleted using the gnome Empty Wastebasket ?
[01:03] <Gokee2> mauper, No :(
[01:03] <mauper> Gokee2: jikes ...
[01:03] <Ng> czr: then you ought to know better, imho
[01:03] <Ng> but it's your time :)
[01:03] <czr> Ng, imho noted ;-)
[01:03] <[Jonne] > when I'm in KDE, and I do sudo kcontrol, I can't kill eth0 from there. And it doesn't remember that I filled in the gateway address
[01:03] <spacey> kill eth0?:)
[01:04] <Gokee2> mauper, Would a ubunto live cd work?
[01:04] <mauper> Gokee2: good idea!
[01:04] <kbrooks> spacey, disconnect
[01:05] <christoph_> TEST
[01:05] <spacey> i think you can only disconnect it with the plug, no? :-) must be some kde terminology
[01:05] <christoph_> HEY
[01:06] <[Jonne] > oh well, i'll just mess around some more then. The thing is that it sucks that I can't easily get online to search for info.
[01:06] <[Jonne] > thanks anyway
[01:06] <spacey> gl
[01:06] <czr> jonne, man interfaces
[01:06] <czr> jonne, then use ifup eth0/ifdown eth0
[01:08] <Gokee2> mauper, Ok I am downloading the live cd :)
[01:08] <topyli> spacey: maybe a bad idea today. we just heard it's broken :)
[01:09] <davro> hi, is it possable to recover items that have been deleted using gnome Empty Wastebasket ?
[01:09] <mauper> Gokee2: good luck with the sound
[01:09] <Gokee2> mauper, ty
[01:09] <topyli> davro: not very easily
[01:10] <topyli> davro: if you unmount the disk immediately, some tools may find the info
[01:10] <davro> mmm, so the gnome Empty Wastebasket is basically the same as rm *
[01:10] <topyli> yes
[01:11] <davro> fair enough, and thanks for the help.
[01:11] <[Jonne] > where do most people that run dapper hang out? I didn't see anything about that issue on ubuntuforums, while the x problems of a week ago was on there immediately.
[01:12] <Ng> [Jonne] : the developer mailing list is the place to discuss dapper
[01:12] <topyli> [Jonne] : #ubuntu-devel. which is absolutely not a support channel
[01:12] <Ng> or that :)
[01:12] <ubuntu2> still working czr
[01:12] <robotgeek> if you ask them support questions, they will ask you to leave :)
[01:12] <[Jonne] > oh wait, found a thread about it
[01:12] <czr> ubuntu2, hmm?
[01:13] <ubuntu2> old versions of ghost
[01:13] <czr> has anyone kickstarted ubuntu here?
[01:13] <spacey> topyli, hehe, thnx for the warning :o) to little spare time anyway, so good :P
[01:13] <czr> ubuntu2, oh no. got back to my other project. writing curses software ;-)
[01:14] <czr> ubuntu2, related to the ghost stuff though
[01:14] <czr> ubuntu2, it's a large project, ghost is only one small part of it
[01:14] <ubuntu2> well i'll try to get version info for you ;)
[01:14] <czr> ubuntu2, that'd be cool, thanks
[01:14] <MiSS_n00b> ok, i just used the apt-get install wine command to get wine, im confused, what am i supposed to do now
[01:14] <masingerz> hello i have a question
[01:15] <robotgeek> MiSS_n00b: winecfg , i suppose
[01:15] <MiSS_n00b> bash: winecfg: command not found
[01:16] <MiSS_n00b> :(
[01:16] <robotgeek> !wine
[01:16] <topyli> !gin
[01:16] <ubotu> topyli: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[01:16] <MiSS_n00b> lol
[01:17] <soci0path> winetools maybe
[01:17] <[Jonne] > bye, and thanks. I'll boot back into Ubuntu
[01:17] <MiSS_n00b> command not found
[01:17] <kyncani> MiSS_n00b: get a wine howto with google ?
[01:17] <sorush20> is anyone here able to find azureus, on the beezy repositories?
[01:18] <MiSS_n00b> yeah i've been reading
[01:18] <rambo3> miss noob whats the problem
[01:18] <kyncani> MiSS_n00b: well, following the howto, what do you want to do now ??
[01:19] <kyncani> sorush20: i cannot find azureus with ubuntu repositories, only with debian ones ..
[01:19] <rambo3> sorush install from source
[01:19] <masingerz> i installed nicotine and it runs well, and then I downloaded the newer version so now i have 2 nicotine: 1.0.8rc1 that launches from aplications internet, and the second one that i donwloaded that is 1.0.8 Question: cani et the latest to run override the old one?
[01:19] <MiSS_n00b> well i used apt-get install wine and it downloaded and unpacked this n that and set up stuff, then it stopped
[01:20] <MiSS_n00b> im not sure if it installed properly or what or how i can check
[01:20] <aeon17x> Do I have to do anything with my scanner for it to be detected?
[01:20] <aeon17x> Like mounting it or something?
[01:20] <rambo3> type wine in terminal and see what happends
[01:20] <josef> if i want to use apache2 is it necessary to install apache too?
[01:21] <sorush20> rambo3: I never installed from source would I just type sudo apt-get install package-source ?
[01:21] <MiSS_n00b> yeah i tried says command not found
[01:21] <rambo3> no , download unpack and ./run
[01:21] <rambo3> then you didn t download it
[01:21] <rambo3> ; installed it
[01:22] <rambo3> open
[01:23] <rambo3> oopen "add applications" cahnge to advanced . search "wine" and mark it for instalation . install xwine to if you want
[01:23] <Ng> josef: no
[01:24] <MiSS_n00b> it will have to DL again wont it? I'm on dialup and this is taking forrrever
[01:24] <andreb_> i want a world map for my ubuntu linux but i cant find that software in apt database, any tips?
[01:26] <rambo3> then dont install wine .  it takes alot to make it work properly . you need alot more configuration
[01:26] <sorush20> where are the debian repositories?
[01:27] <robotgeek> sorush20: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[01:27] <victor> hello
[01:27] <victor> i've got a problem with my laptop
[01:27] <victor> i don't know if this is a correct place for questions
[01:28] <robotgeek> victor: right place, ask away!
[01:28] <victor> thanks :)
[01:28] <victor> i've got ubuntu 5.10 installed
[01:28] <Ng> MiSS_n00b: typically once you have the wine package installed you can just do "wine /path/to/some/windows/program.exe"
[01:29] <victor> until yesterday my laptop shut down correctly, but since then it doesn't
[01:29] <victor> after killing all, and unmounting all, it keeps freezy when saying "Power down"
[01:29] <victor> (excuse my english, i'm spanish)
[01:30] <victor> it may be because of xcompmgr
[01:30] <victor> i've installed it with transset as well
[01:30] <soci0path> MiSS_n00b, http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb there are good instructions there
[01:30] <robotgeek> victor: unlikely, cause that just deals with the xserver
[01:31] <victor> since then it doesn't shut down properly
[01:31] <robotgeek> victor: oo
[01:31] <victor> but i've uninstalled it
[01:31] <victor> and re-edited the xorg.conf
[01:31] <josef> The connection was refused when attempting to contact localhost firefox apache2. Who can help?
[01:32] <victor> before it worked properly..
[01:32] <soci0path> victor , try this: deselect "save settings on exit" then tell the computer to reboot after shutting down.
[01:33] <victor> i don't think that will work, i've trying as well doing a halt, or killing X and shutting down from terminal
[01:33] <soci0path> once it reboots try a normal shutdown
[01:33] <victor> that's strange as well, it reboots perfectly, but it doesn't halt
[01:34] <soci0path> when it hangs, can you jsut press the power button and have it shut down?? does it reboot without doing a disk check on reboot?
[01:35] <victor> yes, i can halt it by pressing the button, and it reboots without checking anything
[01:35] <BockBilbo> hello
[01:36] <BockBilbo> anyone here can tell me what are the whitelists for in postgrey???
[01:36] <soci0path> so the shutdown is correct, it's just not calling the power off
[01:36] <victor> sorry? i don't understand that
[01:36] <victor> linux can't shut down the pc
[01:36] <victor> i can manually
[01:36] <victor> windows also can
[01:36] <soundray> Is there any documentation for how the clipboard is supposed to work in Gnome?
[01:36] <victor> and linux was able to some days ago
[01:37] <huedlrick> hi
[01:37] <willii> Hi all
[01:37] <huedlrick> which player ist the best for wmv?
[01:38] <rambo3> wmp
[01:38] <victor> by manually i mean using the power button lol
[01:38] <soundray> victor: I have a workaround for problems with shutting down, using grub.
[01:38] <willii> just added a windows wireless driver where on the system can I locate it please
[01:38] <huedlrick> haha :-)
[01:38] <kyncani> huedlrick: i like mplayer, totem-gstreamer and gxine
[01:38] <victor> tell me
[01:38] <rambo3> vlc works fine too
[01:39] <frogzo1> willii: /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ipw2200
[01:39] <soundray> victor: add a stanza to /boot/grub/menu.lst with 'title Shutdown' and 'halt'
[01:39] <huedlrick> when i open several wmvs i become many error messages and when i'm lucky i even see the movie
[01:39] <willii> ok thanks frigzo1
[01:39] <masingerz> hello i need to override the old nicotine
[01:39] <victor> haha i'll try
[01:39] <frogzo1> victor: maybe check /var/log/messages ?
[01:40] <victor> but the grub can't shut down the pc with a halt in command line, so i suppose that wouldn't work neither
[01:40] <soundray> victor, then you can shutdown with 'yes | grub-reboot 5' (replace 5 with the appropriate number for your shutdown stanza).
[01:40] <victor> frogzo1, i didn't i'll do right now
[01:40] <frogzo1> victor: grub's got nothing to do with it - once grub kicks off the kernel, it's all down to linux
[01:41] <willii> what I mean I have go to system/management or something do add browse for driver and then done i need to know where system managemnt is
[01:41] <soundray> frogzo1, I am just suggesting a workaround. grub can shutdown the machine in most cases, even if linux can't.
[01:42] <victor> soundray, but your workaround is like typing halt in command-line?
[01:42] <soundray> victor, yes, roughly.
[01:42] <victor> it doesn't work
[01:42] <soundray> victor, what doesn't work?
[01:42] <frogzo1> willii: if the driver was a .deb you installed, then your driver's good to go - just 'modprobe ipw2200' or whatever
[01:44] <soundray> I am getting inconsistent behaviour when I try to copy and paste in Gnome. How is it supposed to work?
[01:45] <mjr> soundray, middle button pastes the text that is currently selected, explicit copy and paste work on the clipboard buffer
[01:45] <Astxist> hmm?
[01:45] <victor> frogzo1, this is what my /var/log/messages says
[01:45] <victor> shall i copy it here?
[01:45] <frogzo1> victor: pastebin pls
[01:45] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell victor about pastebin
[01:45] <mjr> soundray, should be quite consistent, though some legacy (non-gnome) applications may operate differently
[01:45] <soundray> mjr: So if I select a text in gedit, I should be able to middle-click-paste it in Openoffice, correct?
[01:46] <soundray> mjr, at least I used to...
[01:46] <victor> what?
[01:46] <Sionide> http://www.guardian.co.uk/rickygervais podcasty goodness :D
[01:46] <soundray> victor, put it up on http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:46] <mjr> soundray, you should, and if you can't, it's OpenOffice.org's fault (it isn't as home in Gnome as it could/should)
[01:46] <frogzo1> victor: the last fifty lines prior to the last boot
[01:46] <mjr> at home
[01:47] <Paradoxx> how do yo uinstall a .deb package?
[01:47] <victor> i don't understand :$
[01:47] <soundray> mjr, is there a utility that shows the current clipboard content? Sth. like klipper in KDE?
[01:47] <victor> soundray, i use klipper
[01:47] <mjr> dunno
[01:47] <willii> thanks frogzo1 so I just type modprobe ipw2200 at command line? yes it was a .deb package coveted by the alien command
[01:47] <soundray> victor, in Gnome?
[01:47] <victor> i didn't find any like it
[01:47] <stremic> hello
[01:48] <frogzo1> willii: modprobe DRIVER_NAME
[01:48] <victor> yep
[01:48] <mjr> indeed, OpenOffice doesn't seem to support middle-button selection pasting. Shame on it, it's an age-old X custom. :(
[01:48] <Paradoxx> can some1 tell me how to install a .deb file please?
[01:48] <frogzo1> Paradoxx: dpkg -i file.deb
[01:48] <Fubber> Paradoxx, dpkg -i XXXXXXX.deb
[01:48] <Fubber> frogzo1, bah ;-)
[01:48] <Paradoxx> ty
[01:48] <frogzo1> heh :D
[01:48] <victor> kipper and amarok are the only kde apps that i use in gnome
[01:48] <soundray> victor, mjr, it does paste things, but only if you've selected them in Ooo itself...
[01:49] <stremic> who can tell me, how can i automatically mount (in gnome) my floppy
[01:49] <paul__> is there a way to set copy and paste i.e to copy highlight and to paste right mouse button?
[01:49] <victor> i use it because i can have lots of things in buffer
[01:49] <paul__> i.e similar to putty on windows
[01:49] <victor> what do i do in that webpage
[01:49] <victor> in the pastebin?
[01:49] <mjr> soundray, right. Well, in any case, it's an OO.o bug. Quite an uncomfortable one :(
[01:50] <willii> thanks frogzo1 so something like driver-ipn2220_2.10.03.2004-2_i386
[01:50] <rambo3> yeah specilly if you work without of keyboard
[01:50] <frogzo1> willii: probably ip2220
[01:50] <soundray> mjr, what confuses me is that it did work for me before, and now it's stopped. Well, never mind. Thank you for checking it on your side.
[01:50] <frogzo1> *ipn2220*
[01:50] <maxi> como me meto en ubustu espaol
[01:50] <soundray> mjr, maybe I will report a bug.
[01:50] <rob_p> soundray:  Copy/paste is a little kludgy but if you make sure that the text to be pasted, is still highlighted on the original location, then paste *should* work.  At least that's how it seems to here.
[01:50] <frogzo1> !es
[01:50] <mjr> soundray, please do
[01:50] <victor> soundray, what are you talking about?
[01:51] <victor> maxi, www.ubuntu-es.org
[01:51] <SlugO> I made a shortcut on the desktop for my home folder. can I somehow choose the icon so that it changes according to the icon theme?
[01:51] <mjr> soundray, maybe it's some 1.x -> 2.x regression?
[01:51] <maxi> pero ubuntu en chat
[01:51] <victor> mmm try irc-hispano
[01:51] <maxi> aaa ok
[01:51] <victor> try /server libres.irc-hispano.org
[01:51] <holycow> would anyone know how to force firefox to use your default font in the font settings, instead of using 'helvetica' when you have that installed?  some pages request 'helvetica' and other shitty ms font substitutions and it would be nice to force foxy to to actually do what the system admint told it to
[01:51] <soundray> mjr, no, I;m sure I had it working in 1.9.192
[01:51] <willii> thanks frogzo1
[01:51] <victor> then try /join #ubuntu
[01:52] <mjr> soundray, 'k
[01:52] <victor> and let's see if there's someone there lol
[01:52] <victor> frogzo1, is there any bot with common help?
[01:53] <victor> !help
[01:53] <Tony_Sidaway> Help message
[01:53] <stremic> hello victor, can you help me please
[01:53] <frogzo1> !tell victor about ubotu
[01:53] <ubuntu2> hey, if i'm running from a livecd, but I need to use that drive to burn an image to cd ON THAT DRIVE, is it possible to do without rebooting?
[01:53] <soundray> rob_p, mjr, strange, I can paste things that are highlighted in firefox, but not in gnome-terminal, gedit or emacs.
[01:53] <victor> anybody says anything lol
[01:53] <victor> stremic, tell me
[01:53] <victor> maybe i can
[01:53] <frogzo1> ubuntu2 nope
[01:53] <victor> but i doubt so, i'm newbie
[01:53] <victor> :$
[01:54] <stremic> my floppy doesnnt mount in gnome . the error mesage isr no valid udi, but in the terminal i can mount it under sudo
[01:54] <soundray> victor, do you want to copy your /var/log/messages to pastebin?
[01:54] <libervisco> Hello, I've got this great annoyance with apt-get that wasn't there in hoary
[01:55] <victor> if you can mount it by the terminal
[01:55] <victor> try editing your /etc/fstab
[01:55] <libervisco> every time I do apt-get update it downloads the whole database all over again instead of just the differences
[01:55] <libervisco> in hoary it wasn't so
[01:55] <victor> i think there are options to mount things automatically when they are plugged
[01:55] <victor> however...
[01:55] <soundray> stremic, have you played with the options in System-Preferences-Removable Drives ?
[01:56] <rob_p> soundray:  Yeah, that's strange.  Not sure what to tell ya on that one.  I just tried it here and I was able to copy from a text file open in gedit, and past it into a oo document just fine.
[01:56] <victor> since when a pc detects when a floppy is inserted?
[01:56] <frogzo1> victor: can be done - there's an option for fstab (racks brains....)
[01:57] <victor> that's cool
[01:57] <rambo3> when light tourns green
[01:57] <victor> soundray, yes, frogzo1 asked me about my /var/log/messages
[01:57] <stremic> what should i editing in fstab,
[01:58] <victor> stremic, i don't know that... try looking in forums, i remember reading something about mounting devices automatically
[01:58] <soundray> stremic, try System-Preferences-Removable Drives before you touch your fstab.
[01:58] <victor> yeah, listen to them, they may help you better ;)
[01:59] <stremic> thank soundray and victor mfg stremic
[01:59] <frogzo1> victor: my guess is that gnome isn't shutting down cleanly - a reinstall might be a good plan, or just mv aside your .gconf and .gconfd directories & logout/login
[01:59] <tuyan> hi all, i want to use blowfish shadow file for my server. how can i do it ?
[01:59] <victor> frogzo1, yeah i thought about a reinstall..
[01:59] <frogzo1> victor: reinstall of gnome that is, but try moving aside the directories first
[02:00] <victor> so i think i will, because i also want to clean the hd
[02:00] <soundray> rob_p, more weirdness: when I select sth in OO Writer and middle-click in emacs, Openoffice freezes and emacs shows the *previous* clipboard contents after a while...
[02:00] <seriesx> running synaptic results in "segmentation fault" every now and then, but when I reboot it works again. any idea?
[02:01] <libervisco> so how can I make apt-get update to download only changes in the repo database and not the whole database every time it's ran?
[02:01] <soundray> rob_p, Openoffice is dead in the water right now :)
[02:01] <holycow> *hmmm*
[02:01] <holycow> anyone have hoary installed by chance?
[02:02] <victor> libervisco, when i run apt-get update it only updates the changes in the database
[02:02] <frogzo1> seriesx: anything in /var/log/messages?
[02:02] <victor> are you sure it downloads the whole database each time you run it?
[02:02] <frogzo1> holycow: the answer to your problem = upgrade to breezy :)
[02:02] <libervisco> victor, yes.. the same as I when i was running it the first time
[02:02] <libervisco> it's breezy
[02:03] <libervisco> that chunk of some 500kb and then that 2MB chunk which takes about 15 minutes on modem
[02:03] <victor> libervisco, try using aptitude instead apt-get
[02:03] <holycow> frogzo1, lol, actually no, i'm looking for the shiny metal gnome splash boot image
[02:03] <victor> it usually works better
[02:03] <holycow> the breezy one is fugly beyond belief
[02:03] <seriesx> frogzo: I'll disabled all logging unfortunately. should I turn it on and check again maybe..
[02:03] <libervisco> victor, Why would that be different? I already used synaptic and it's the same
[02:04] <frogzo1> holycow: install the art manager - pkg is 'gnome-art' I think
[02:04] <holycow> frogzo1, that is contained within it? weird.  okay i'll try
[02:04] <soundray> thoreauputic, Walden for healing? :)
[02:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi holycow
[02:05] <holycow> hey :)
[02:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)=
[02:05] <victor> with aptitude, when you install sth which depends of other packages, and then you want to remove that main package, it will remove the dependant packages as well
[02:05] <thoreauputic> soundray: think Civil Disobedience, not Walden ;)
[02:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi thoreauputic
[02:05] <thoreauputic> hi Kamping_Kaiser :)
[02:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[02:05] <victor> may be with aptitude your database is updated correctly
[02:06] <soundray> thoreauputic, yes!
[02:06] <victor> but i had your problem as well, i didn't remember
[02:06] <libervisco> victor, hm.. I'll give it a try but it worked properly on hoary
[02:06] <libervisco> there must be a way to fix it
[02:07] <victor> that was because the update-notifier tries always to update the database, every time you turn on your pc
[02:07] <victor> and sometimes i only turn on the pc for 1 minute or less
[02:07] <victor> so it usually didn't have time to finish the update
[02:07] <derek[] > E: Couldn't find package libxpm
[02:07] <victor> try disabling that option
[02:07] <derek[] > ??
[02:08] <victor> it worked for me
[02:08] <victor> i'm going have lunch
[02:08] <libervisco> victor, alright, I'll try that.. I'm on dial up so I'm not even always on and it therefore can't update it
[02:08] <libervisco> thanks victor
[02:08] <soundray> victor, apt-get install lunch :)
[02:08] <libervisco> :)
[02:08] <libervisco> cya
[02:08] <holycow> what is the name of the site where i can post code snippets again?
[02:08] <victor> yeah, i'm on dial up as well
[02:09] <thoreauputic> woah, what happened to ubotu ?
[02:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> o_0
[02:09] <ubuntu2> how big is a default breezy install
[02:09] <ubuntu2> i'm getting rid of this livecd and installing with the install cd i got in the mail... if it fits on my partition
[02:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> ubuntu2: about 1.6 gig + swap after apt-cache clean
[02:09] <frogzo1> !ubotu
[02:09] <ubuntu2> after clean :( cry
[02:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> ubuntu2: you want at least 1.8 gig for an install
[02:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> preferably 2+
[02:10] <frogzo1> ubuntu2 dl the install CD ?
[02:10] <thoreauputic> ubuntu2: around 1.8 Gig I think (for the default install)
[02:10] <ubuntu2> well even with the spiffy packaging they sent out? still 3x CD size?
[02:10] <thoreauputic> ubuntu2: erm, the CD is compressed
[02:10] <ubuntu2> hmm, reading alternative installation methods, I guess
[02:11] <frogzo1> ubuntu2 20gigs is better :) disk is cheap
[02:11] <ubuntu2> figures d;)
[02:11] <derek[] > How do I install libxpm ?
[02:11] <thoreauputic> ubuntu2: you can do a "server" install then add stuff
[02:11] <derek[] > E: Couldn't find package libxpm
[02:11] <ubuntu2> its 4am, nothing is open... and i'm poor
[02:11] <ubuntu2> my cd burner just broke, i'm using my dvdwriter as the "cdrom" in this livecd session
[02:11] <derek[] > ubuntu2, :(
[02:11] <soundray> derek[] , try libxpm4
[02:12] <stremic> hello, who can tell me, how can i configure mounting without root or sudo permissions
[02:12] <derek[] > soundray, ok
[02:12] <derek[] > soundray, btw, I  need it because of this: configure: error: Could not find XpmReadFileToPixmap in -lXpm.
[02:12] <BockBilbo> bye!
[02:12] <thoreauputic> derek[] :  apt-cache search libxpm
[02:12] <thoreauputic>    <<-- always try this method to see what's available
[02:12] <dabaR> stremic: be more specific. mount can only be used by root, with sudo on ubuntu.
[02:12] <soundray> derek[] , ah okay, get libxpm-dev as well then.
[02:12] <ubuntu2> k at the booting prompt type server instead of just enter?
[02:12] <derek[] > thoreauputic, ok , thanks
[02:12] <derek[] > soundray, ok
[02:14] <frogzo1> dabaR: mount can be used by others if fstab has the "user" option
[02:14] <holycow> http://pastebin.com/450870  <-- check out the questionnaire i got from adobe a minute ago
[02:14] <dabaR> frogzo1: the mount commmand?
[02:14] <holycow> can flash and other things be far behind?
[02:14] <frogzo1> dabaR: yep
[02:14] <dabaR> frogzo1: oh ya, the cds get mmounted that way.
[02:15] <dabaR> holycow: flash is a web advertisement technology.
[02:15] <holycow> dabaR, congratulations captain obvious
[02:15] <holycow> >_>
[02:15] <dabaR> frogzo1: do you ever answer any questions, or just correcct me?
[02:16] <frogzo1> dabaR: I'm fine thanks, how are you?
[02:16] <stremic> on my gnome desktop, i can not mount the floppydisk automatically, in the fstab is the entry for auto and when i mount it in the terminal i can mount it but only when i use sudo, so i think the problem for mounting on the desktop is i let down the sudo permission for mounting genererally
[02:16] <ubuntu2> ... even if O
[02:17] <dabaR> frogzo1: Imm fine too, Im just wondering about that one.
[02:17] <ubuntu2> err s/O/I ... + want to use fluxbox as my WM I need to install X11 right? and thats like 1 GB?
[02:17] <thoreauputic> ubuntu2: er, no X isn't that big :)
[02:18] <frogzo1> ubuntu2 dunno how, but my /usr is currently 16.5 gig :)
[02:18] <thoreauputic> ubuntu2: in fact it's pretty small - you need x-window-system-core
[02:18] <ubuntu2> sources ... ls /usr/src :)
[02:18] <rambo3> floppy is so 1995 . you can allways manage users and groups , from system -> administration
[02:18] <soundray> ubuntu2: du -s /usr/X11R6/ : 55748 kB
[02:18] <dabaR> holycow: what is the survey about? tell them you accept non-free software only as a model to create free versions:P
[02:19] <thoreauputic> rambo3: floppy may be 1995 but it can be damn useful at times :)
[02:19] <ubuntu2> gracias :)
[02:19] <thoreauputic> excuse language ;)
[02:19] <stremic> dabar, can you understand me now
[02:20] <holycow> dabaR, its a standard corporate survey to test the demand for products.  it has nothing to do with the theology of free software.  i'm disqualified either because i don't use redhat or because i use linux for everything (i.e. not a casual corporate worker).
[02:20] <ubuntu2> is there no way to "skip ahead" in the ubuntu install with a livecd?
[02:20] <dabaR> stremic: yup, but I dont know what to do.
[02:20] <ubuntu2> I have to power on.. from a clean partition, and go from there... ugh><
[02:21] <frogzo1> what's the pkg/command to pull smart stats of a hdd ?
[02:21] <dabaR> holycow: a standard corporate survery to test the demand for products is very ambiguous at least. did you read the survey? are they planning on a new version of adobe acrobat?
[02:22] <ubuntu2> maybe acrobat for linux
[02:22] <holycow> dabaR, i started the survey but was disqualified
[02:22] <bobbyd> frogzo1, smartctl
[02:22] <dabaR> thats just wrong imo
[02:22] <dabaR> holycow: congratulations.
[02:22] <bobbyd> frogzo1, part of smartmon if i remember correctly
[02:22] <frogzo1> hdparm I'm thinking
[02:22] <ubuntu2> hdparm -tT ?
[02:23] <pinkisntwell> anyone installed mplayer from ubuntu and had problems with it?
[02:23] <blue-frog> no
[02:24] <dabaR> is it a survey. or you have a specific issue, pinkisntwell
[02:24] <holycow> dabaR, shut the hell up
[02:24] <holycow> let the dude talk
[02:24] <holycow> this isn't #debian
[02:24] <rambo3> you wish
[02:24] <frogzo1> bobbyd: thx - smartctl in pkg smartmontools
[02:25] <Zugot> went ahead and removed my windows from my main box last night and forgot that i don't have vpn client for my job on linux
[02:25] <Zugot> that sucks
[02:25] <holycow> pinkisntwell, never had problems with it, but you haveto know what to expect.  often people have problems with an app because it behaves differrently from what they are used to
[02:25] <holycow> pinkisntwell, what issues are you having with it?
[02:26] <mysyfy_> where i can found my kernel sources...and how can i recompile it ?
[02:26] <ubuntu2> probably /usr/src/blahblah
[02:26] <thoreauputic> mysyfy_: look for linux-source in synaptic
[02:27] <mysyfy_> thoreauputic: at /usr/src i have only rpm dir
[02:27] <thoreauputic> the source for the kernel isn't installed by default
[02:27] <mysyfy_> thoreauputic: how can i install it ?
[02:27] <ubuntu2> czr, these are from Ghost 2001 Personal (not business ed.)
[02:27] <ubuntu2> -r-xr-xr-x  1 root root 220852 2000-08-17 20:39 gdisk.exe
[02:27] <ubuntu2> -r-xr-xr-x  1 root root 710534 2000-08-21 22:16 ghostpe.exe
[02:28] <thoreauputic> mysyfy_: as I said, look in synaptic for linux-source
[02:28] <tuyan> hi all, i want to use blowfish in shadow file for my server. how can i do it ?
[02:28] <pinkisntwell> wait, I'm getting support from #mplayer
[02:29] <mysyfy_> thoreauputic: ok i'll do that
[02:29] <thoreauputic> mysyfy_: why do you need the source, by the way?
[02:29] <thoreauputic> mysyfy_: what are you compiling?
[02:29] <mysyfy_> thoreauputic: i'm trying to install VMware Workstation.....
[02:30] <thoreauputic> ah I see
[02:30] <thoreauputic> IIRC you can do that with only linux-headers - but I may be wrong
[02:30] <mysyfy_> thoreauputic: running the configure script output that my kernel is compiled in an later version of the gcc i have now
[02:31] <thoreauputic> Myst0z: yes, you can do   export CC=gcc-3.4  to correct that
[02:31] <mysyfy_> thoreauputic: so i will recompile it in the latest version
[02:32] <mysyfy_> thoreauputic: hmmmmm i'll try that....
[02:32] <frogzo1> tuyan: man pam - best place to start
[02:32] <thoreauputic> hmmm - I think the gcc-3.4 solution is easier
[02:32] <mysyfy_> thoreauputic: so do i..heheh...
[02:33] <thoreauputic> you still need linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[02:33] <blue-frog> mysyfy_, synaptic search for linux-headers
[02:33] <chrisx1> how do i start open ssh service?
[02:34] <thoreauputic> no need really - just do  sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[02:34] <kukAW> http://picasa.hu/1133875016-1133820621761.jpg happy santaclaus ;-) :)
[02:34] <soundray> chrisx1, it should start automatically once installed.
[02:34] <mysyfy_> thoreauputic: right....i'm getting the hearders....
[02:34] <thoreauputic> christel: is it installed? If so it is running by default
[02:34] <chrisx1> it doesnt:(
[02:35] <dabaR> chrisx1: you installed openssh-server?
[02:35] <thoreauputic> christel: else do  sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start| restart
[02:35] <soundray> chrisx1, check with 'ps aux | grep sshd'
[02:35] <blue-frog> chrisx1, openssh-server is installed?
[02:35] <_jason> chrisx1, make sure you opened port 22
[02:35] <eth42> how can I play midi files?
[02:35] <soundray> chrisx1, how are you coping with all that advice :)
[02:36] <thoreauputic> eth42: install timidity and freepats
[02:36] <dabaR> see ya holycow.
[02:36] <idiot> how can I play *.wmv files, I've installed the w32codecs and cannot play them with any media player still.
[02:36] <stremic> hi at all, who can tell me, what the problem is, when i want mount my floppy and i get an error message like this: the udi is not a valid mounting volume
[02:36] <eth42> thoreauputic: ok. but freepats is so big.... :-/ gnargs
[02:36] <czr> ubuntu2, that's supposed to help me? :-)
[02:36] <thoreauputic> idiot: did you read wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  ?
[02:36] <ilba7r> !info wxpython
[02:36] <idiot> yea
[02:37] <ubuntu2> i may not be back soon.. installing via install cd for breezy
[02:37] <ubuntu2> ... any estimate for a "server" install?
[02:37] <thoreauputic> eth42: unless you have a sound card that does midi natively, you'll need that or sound fonts
[02:37] <eth42> thoreauputic: ok. thanks
[02:37] <soundray> ubuntu2: half an hour on current hardware.
[02:37] <dabaR> ubuntu2: its a hardware thing.
[02:38] <chrisx1> soundray, i cant lolz.
[02:38] <ubuntu2> 1,2 GHz 1 GB RAM
[02:38] <thoreauputic> hmm the bots are back...
[02:38] <idiot> when I play a *.wmv all I get is sound, and I've installed the w32codecs.
[02:38] <khalif> I am so frustrated! The kubuntu disk that I downloaded must have a bug in it!
[02:38] <blue-frog> ubuntu2, 20 minutes ish
[02:39] <thoreauputic> idiot: which player are you using?
[02:39] <idiot> vlc
[02:39] <thoreauputic> idiot: vlc can't handle wmv 9
[02:39] <khalif> I have edited my fstab file every way that I can and my USB flashdrive will not mount!
[02:39] <thoreauputic> idiot: try totem-xine with w32codecs
[02:40] <blue-frog> khalif, check md5sum and verify the cd u burned as well
[02:40] <idiot> how do I run it
[02:40] <soundray> khalif, run 'tail -f /var/log/messages', then insert your flashdrive and look for error messages.
[02:40] <thoreauputic> khalif: try running tail -f /var/log/messages then plug in your USB and see what the system thinks it is
[02:40] <hfx> hmmm...my server performance is lousy since exporting some paths via nfs. "top" shows no big performance eaters even if one remote console hangs (on a "ls" for example). any idea what that could be?
[02:40] <dabaR> idiot: install it first.
[02:40] <blue-frog> khalif, if iso file has wrong md5sum u can use rsync to download wjhat's missing i think, it will save you time
[02:40] <soundray> thoreauputic, same school of thought :)
[02:40] <idiot> I did
[02:40] <thoreauputic> soundray: too slow :)
[02:41] <dabaR> totem is the command.
[02:41] <ubuntu2> czr, Ill still be able to see what you say about me ;P so no badmouthing
[02:41] <idiot> now how do I run it
[02:41] <ubuntu2> wtf why cant i find my .bash_history for my terminal sessions?
[02:41] <paul__> hi, i've got an issue with my screen res in ubuntu desktop. xorg.conf shows the higher res's are availible. however in the desktop i can only choose up to 1248x968
[02:41] <paul__> (or something like that..)
[02:41] <thoreauputic> idiot: you were told
[02:41] <czr> ubuntu2, say about you? hmm?
[02:41] <paul__> what have i dont wrong.
[02:41] <idiot> no I wasn't.
[02:41] <dabaR> idiot: totem is the command
[02:41] <hfx> oops, it's a debian server *blushes* never mind my question ;)
[02:41] <idiot> I've tried playing wmv files in totem
[02:42] <idiot> it fails to do so.
[02:42] <thoreauputic> idiot: yes you were - type totem in  terminal to start the app
[02:42] <idiot> Yes, and it doesn't work.
[02:42] <dabaR> idiot: some just dont work.
[02:42] <thoreauputic> idiot: is it totem-xine ?
[02:42] <idiot> No, its totem.
[02:42] <idiot> I've installed totem-xine
[02:42] <idiot> but I don't know how to run it.
[02:42] <Dimon> People! Do Linux distributives have tools for IRC-server creating?
[02:42] <dabaR> thoreauputic: do you find that too? that some just dont work.
[02:42] <thoreauputic> idiot: I told you - install totem-xine and w32codecs
[02:42] <idiot> I DID
[02:42] <idiot> how do I run it
[02:42] <thoreauputic> OK
[02:43] <dabaR> :)
[02:43] <thoreauputic> dabaR: yes, not all codecs are supported
[02:43] <ubuntu2> hopefully your distro is much easier to just stick it in and install (compared to the other distro i've been playing with for 3 days)
[02:43] <thoreauputic> idiot: you might just have an unplayable file there
[02:43] <Dimon> People! Do Linux distributives have tools for IRC-server creating?
[02:43] <Dimon> People! Do Linux distributives have tools for IRC-server creating?
[02:43] <thoreauputic> Dimon: of course
[02:44] <czr> dimon, google for ircd
[02:44] <dabaR> Dimon: rephrase your question at least if you see noone answering. maybe you did not pose a great question.
[02:44] <mysyfy_> Brasil na area ?
[02:44] <idiot> No, no wmv's are supported.
[02:44] <idiot> and I've installed the codecs and the player.
[02:44] <idiot> Video codec 'Windows Media Video 9' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies
[02:44] <thoreauputic> idiot: hmm - well wmv plays fine here
[02:44] <dabaR> idiot: paste the output of aptitude search w32codecs totem-xine to paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:45] <thoreauputic> idiot: I assume you installed w32codecs?
[02:45] <idiot> is totem-xine a program?
[02:45] <idiot> well I've installed it, how do I run it?
[02:45] <thoreauputic> idiot: YES
[02:45] <idiot> totem runs the normal totem
[02:45] <blue-frog> runs totem-xine
[02:45] <dabaR> idiot: the normmal totem either runs gstreamer, or xine, depending on what is installed.
[02:45] <thoreauputic> idiot: no it runs totem-xine if you installed totem-xine
[02:45] <soundray> Would w32codecs work in amd64?
[02:45] <kyncani> idiot: the normal totem *is* totem-xine
[02:45] <Dimon> czr: Thanks
[02:46] <thoreauputic> soundray: not without a chroot
[02:46] <dabaR> mysyfy_: are you asking something about brasilian?
[02:46] <czr> Dimon, np
[02:46] <soundray> thoreauputic, good to know, thanks.
[02:46] <ubuntu2> so you're sure.. being in ubuntu currently, and HAVING the install cd in my drive as well.. i cant skip ahead past the hardware setup?
[02:47] <dabaR> ubuntu2: why do that:?
[02:47] <ubuntu2> ... i'm IN ubuntu right.. the cd isnt crippled or anything
[02:47] <ubuntu2> (I hate having to do magical juju on cmdline to get stuff working)
[02:47] <thoreauputic> ubuntu2: if it's the live CD you need to use the other one to install
[02:47] <mysyfy_> dabaR, yes if someone is brazilian
[02:48] <ubuntu2> i got that, I have both inserted
[02:48] <dabaR> ubuntu2: i do not think you are making much sense with the last 3 posts, try insatlling, it should Just workk(tm).
[02:48] <thoreauputic> ubuntu2: so reboot into the installer
[02:48] <dabaR> !br
[02:48] <ubuntu2> alright :) bbs
[02:49] <dabaR> heh, ubotu is not here.
[02:49] <mysyfy_> thoreauputic, i get the linux-headers i run the export CC=gcc-3.4....just that ?
[02:49] <thoreauputic> ubuntu2: assuming your BIOS is set for that CD drive
[02:49] <dabaR> mysyfy_: check out "/j #ubuntu-br"
[02:49] <bob832> join #fedora
[02:49] <dabaR> thoreauputic: if he is in live...
[02:49] <ubuntu2> i gotcha, see ya on the flipside
[02:49] <thoreauputic> Myst0z: run that before attempting to compile
[02:50] <thoreauputic> dabaR: yes, the system will probably try to boot the live CD again :)
[02:50] <mysyfy_> dabaR, hmm tks
[02:50] <thoreauputic> mysyfy_: sorry that was for you
[02:51] <thoreauputic> mysyfy_: the export command will apply only to the shell you are running BTW
[02:51] <mysyfy_> thoreauputic, i run the script again...and output the same msg ...that the kernel was compiled with other gcc version
[02:51] <mysyfy_> i have to update something ?
[02:52] <mysyfy_> i'm running the script as super user
[02:52] <thoreauputic> mysyfy_: did you run your commands immediately after the export command?
[02:52] <mysyfy_> yes
[02:52] <blue-frog> mysyfy_, did u install gcc 3.4 and exported it?
[02:52] <mysyfy_> no i have gcc 4.0.2
[02:52] <mysyfy_> blue-frog,
[02:53] <blue-frog> exporting gcc 3.4 without installing it, not much help...
[02:53] <thoreauputic> mysyfy_: *cough* have you installed  build-essential  ?
[02:53] <thoreauputic> mysyfy_: if not, do so
[02:53] <khalif> ok, here's the sit: ran tail then plugged in my cruzer mini. Tail log showed successful scan and attachment of cruzer. When it went to sccan for the file system it looked for HFS+; couldn't find it on my cruzer.....
[02:53] <blue-frog> mysyfy_, apt-get install gcc-3.4 or something like it
[02:53] <nlfsoftware> hello all
[02:54] <nlfsoftware> i need some help please
[02:54] <derek[] > how do I pass more than a single package's name in the command 'sudo apt-get install packagename' to install ?
[02:54] <mysyfy_> ok i'll do that...tks
[02:54] <nlfsoftware> any one can tell me how to force to close an aplication using sudo?
[02:54] <blue-frog> mysyfy_, and build-essential as signaled by thoreauputic
[02:54] <mysyfy_> blue-frog, right
[02:54] <Madpilot> derek[] : with space btwen the names - apt-get install foo bar baz
[02:55] <derek[] > Madpilot, ok thx
[02:55] <Seveas> nlfsoftware, sudo kill -9
[02:55] <khalif> The problem that I have is that when I format my cruzer as HFS+, I can't copy the Linux files that I need to the drive. I don't know why. I don't have any cd's that I can burn the files to and I don't have an ethernet port on the thinkpad, so i can't download the files directly from the Net. basically, I'm screwed!
[02:55] <electr0n> derek[] : apt-get install package && package
[02:56] <vir> hello
[02:56] <thoreauputic> electr0n: no, that doesn't work :)
[02:56] <bob832> hmm, heres an interesting question:  according to the system monitor, my cpu is at 100% but under the processes tab, the only gnome-sys-monitor is using CPU power (5%) - why is this?
[02:56] <nlfsoftware> seveas,  hive the list of options to the comand kill
[02:56] <khalif> How do i stop a tail call?
[02:56] <thoreauputic> electr0n: apt-get install <package> <package>
[02:56] <soundray> khalif, Ctrl-c
[02:56] <nlfsoftware> I want to close synaptic
[02:56] <khalif> Thanks
[02:57] <Seveas> nlfsoftware, sudo pkill -9 synaptic
[02:57] <soundray> khalif, what happens when you try to copy files to your hfsplus partition>
[02:57] <thoreauputic> nlfsoftware: is it finished doing what it was doing? If not, killing will cause problems
[02:57] <soundray> khalif, ?
[02:57] <thierry_> how do I apply a patch on a directory?
[02:58] <khalif> It says that some ornone of the files can be copyed...
[02:58] <khalif> *copyied
[02:58] <vir> I would like it to have the "Open Terminal" entry in the right-click menu of the desktop...how to activate it? there is no such entry..
[02:58] <khalif> *copied
[02:58] <Get> Hi!
[02:58] <Get> I'm trying to install ubuntu dual boot
[02:58] <thoreauputic> vir: install nautilus-open-terminal  from memory
[02:58] <soundray> khalif, the drive is mounted with -t hfsplus ?
[02:58] <willii> Hi all
[02:59] <mysyfy_> blue-frog, thoreauputic, right now did ok the installations...tks :)
[02:59] <khalif> You mean on my Linux box or on my iMac?
[02:59] <dbzdeath> does anyone know if it's possible to make a fat32 partition hold a file that's more than 4gb? maybe some kind of mod?
[02:59] <willii> Hi frogzo1
[02:59] <thoreauputic> mysyfy_: ah, good :)
[02:59] <soundray> khalif, Linux.
[02:59] <Get> but when I should enter the partition size, is it for the linux or windows partition?
[02:59] <frogzo1> willii: wassup?
[02:59] <vir> thoreauputic, thx :)
[03:00] <willii> I tried modprobe and cannot find ipn2220
[03:00] <thoreauputic> vir: you're welcome :)
[03:00] <khalif> It's attached, but not mounted. It can't fully mount because it's looking for HFS+
[03:00] <frogzo1> Get: should be a snap - just install windows, then ubuntu & select grub as your bootloader
[03:00] <nlfsoftware> seveas, thanks a lot
[03:00] <nlfsoftware> :D
[03:00] <thoreauputic> ubotu test
[03:00] <vir> but...why its not installed by default?  i mean its important, isn't it?
[03:00] <khalif> brb...
[03:00] <derek[] > $ mkdir ~/apps
[03:00] <derek[] > derek@linux:~/downloads/pekwm-0.1.4pre2$ ./configure --prefix=~/apps/pekwm
[03:00] <derek[] > configure: error: expected an absolute directory name for --prefix: ~/apps/pekwm
[03:00] <willii> the folder ipn2220 is in  usr/share/drivers/ipn2220
[03:01] <Get> frogzo1: but windows is installed
[03:01] <frogzo1> willii: were there instructions for installing the driver anywhere?
[03:01] <MortalKombat-> How to log psybnc with xchat
[03:01] <Get> but I cant resize the windows partition
[03:01] <MortalKombat-> ???
[03:01] <frogzo1> Get: do you have a partition free?
[03:01] <thoreauputic> derek[] : try /home/you/apps/pekwm  ?
[03:01] <frogzo1> Get: ah, i c
[03:02] <Get> frogzo1, no
[03:02] <vir> thoreauputic, fyi: i had to restart nautilus
[03:02] <thoreauputic> vir: yes, that's normal :)
[03:02] <derek[] > thoreauputic, ok
[03:02] <thoreauputic> vir: it has to re-read its config
[03:03] <Get> hmm,maybe I should try partition magic
[03:03] <vir> thoreauputic, maybe nautilus needs such an option
[03:03] <thoreauputic> derek[] : funny place to put it - what's wrong with /usr/local  ?
[03:03] <thoreauputic> vir: what option?
[03:04] <frogzo1> Get: is xp on fat32 or ntfs?
[03:04] <derek[] > thoreauputic, so I can keep the stuff secured in case of a reinstall or format
[03:04] <vir> thoreauputic, "--reread", or "--restart"
[03:04] <thoreauputic> vir: it used to exist in hoary - I think the gnome people decided in their wisdom to remove yet another thing ;)
[03:04] <willii> I was told by a guy who had windows how to install he gave me a url for a rpm i586 package with winxp driver forwireless then I did alien to convert it to .i386.deb then did dpkg -i  thats it up to now
[03:05] <thoreauputic> vir: ah I see
[03:05] <vir> :)
[03:05] <thoreauputic> derek[] : I see - alternatively you could have made /usr/local a partition on install
[03:06] <derek[] > thoreauputic, yes, good idea. Although right now its not on a separate partition.
[03:06] <thoreauputic> derek[] : fair enough :)
[03:07] <Get> frogzo1, on ntfs
[03:07] <derek[] > :)
[03:07] <vbgunz> Anybody have any idea why I cannot update my Thunderbird plugins?
[03:08] <frogzo1> willii: if I were you, 1st thing I'd do is uninstall that .deb - then I'd look for a guide for installing the ubuntu drivers - breezy supports a lot of wifi cards
[03:09] <frogzo1> Get: first defrag, then resize your partitions - partition magic, or the open source fs resize utils - qtparted etc
[03:09] <willii> the guy who told me has same wifi set up card as me and he has 5.10
[03:09] <Get> frogzo1, but then I will lost the windowsinstall? :(
[03:09] <Get> or not
[03:10] <frogzo1> Get: you shouldn't - but you're best making a full backup before you try
[03:10] <Get> frogzo1, ok
[03:12] <Raged> hi
[03:13] <thoreauputic> Raged: hi - quiet moment in the usual channel traffic
[03:15] <Raged> i need help
[03:15] <Shadowpillar> ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu/dists/breezy/ <-- I found a good resource for w32codecs
[03:15] <mwe> then ask a qeustion, Raged
[03:16] <Allvis> Hi, fantastic os, :)
[03:16] <vir> I can't find the (gnome?) configuration tool for gnome - is it installed by default?
[03:16] <Allvis> I just wondering about the hdparm.conf file
[03:16] <vir> eh for grub
[03:17] <Allvis> Anyone wanna help me with hdparm.conf ?
[03:17] <thoreauputic> vir:  sudo "editor" /boot/grub/menu.lst    :)
[03:17] <nlfsoftware> ok thanks for the tip... sorry but was to buy new bats for the mouse
[03:17] <nlfsoftware> lol
[03:17] <mwe> vir: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst is a great configuration tool for grub
[03:17] <chrisx1> anyone know about touch screen drivers?
[03:18] <mwe> brb
[03:18] <vir> thoreauputic, what's about the gui configuration? it was really good (gnome 2.10)
[03:18] <thoreauputic> vir: in ubuntu? I never saw it ...
[03:18] <vir> in debian ;)
[03:18] <thoreauputic> ah
[03:19] <chrisx1> how do i configure the eth0 card via ssh?
[03:20] <Raged> how do i uninstall Unbuntu??
[03:20] <medication> anyone know when gaim 2.0 is going to be released?
[03:20] <mjr> Raged, by overwriting it with something else?
[03:20] <chrisx1> :O RAGED SAID BAD WORK:O
[03:20] <pinkisntwell> i get no sound from mplayer except if i start it from the cli. what the hell?
[03:20] <thoreauputic> Raged: install another OS on top of it? Delete the partition?
[03:21] <thoreauputic> pinkisntwell: for what it's worth, I've had better results using xine or totem-xine
[03:21] <thoreauputic> YMMV
[03:21] <kuraia> hi all!
[03:22] <pinkisntwell> yes but I would like to see why this happens, too
[03:22] <pinkisntwell> it's supposed to be the best player and all
[03:22] <Raged> well, i have windows installed in another partition, but when i delete de partition where Unbute is on, i gives a error when i boot my PC
[03:22] <thoreauputic> pinkisntwell: according to whom? My experience suggests otherwise
[03:22] <vir> thoreauputic, well, then this is outdated: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#id2521330 , there is no "System->Administration->Boot" in menu
[03:22] <medication> pinkisntwell: have to run mplayer from a shell?
[03:22] <Amaranth> mplayer? the best player? ha!
[03:22] <qsrv> hi
[03:22] <kuraia> pinkisntwell, what's the problem?
[03:23] <samantha> ciao
[03:23] <thoreauputic> vir: looking
[03:23] <pinkisntwell> if I start from the Applications menu it says it can't initialize audio and hence gives no sound
[03:23] <pinkisntwell> if i start from the cli i get audio
[03:24] <janopotter> good morning
[03:24] <medication> pinkisntwell: are you using ALSA?
[03:24] <pinkisntwell> yes
[03:24] <dabaR> pinkisntwell: its a setting
[03:25] <pinkisntwell> i also tried with oss, still no luck
[03:25] <dabaR> tried esounnd?
[03:25] <pinkisntwell> the strange thing is that if i start it from the cli it works
[03:25] <Amaranth> pinkisntwell: the menu is running gmplayer
[03:25] <kuraia> have you given audio permissions?
[03:26] <thoreauputic> vir: you're right, that seems wrong
[03:26] <kuraia> pinkisntwell, have you given audio permissions?
[03:26] <Amaranth> kuraia: this is ubuntu, he has them unless someone turned them off
[03:26] <pinkisntwell> what's that?
[03:27] <Raged> how do i remove the GRUB menu? and let Windows start automatic (not that i don't like UBuntu, it's just i can't use it)
[03:27] <Vekelar> hello
[03:27] <Vekelar> i'm back
[03:27] <kuraia> pinkisntwell,  sudo adduser $USER audio
[03:27] <Vekelar> somebody stole my nick (i'm victor)
[03:27] <dabaR> 1-888-Microsoft, heh
[03:27] <pinkisntwell> but it works from the cli! most other players work too
[03:27] <thoreauputic> Vekelar: was your nick registered ?
[03:28] <Vekelar> no, today is the first time i connect in this server
[03:28] <wickedpuppy> ...
[03:28] <wickedpuppy> then you might have been stealing other's nick
[03:28] <Vekelar> i was thinking of registering it, but i think that now it's too late
[03:28] <Vekelar> wickedpuppy, no, because it was not registered. it was nobody's nick lol
[03:28] <thoreauputic> Vekelar: well, victor is a pretty common name :)
[03:29] <Vekelar> is it?
[03:29] <thoreauputic> Vekelar: sure
[03:29] <Vekelar> i thought it was just in latin countries
[03:29] <wickedpuppy> victor hugo ....
[03:29] <thoreauputic> Vekelar: no, it's an english name too
[03:30] <Vekelar> wow i didn't know.. i don't know if that's good or bad lol
[03:30] <dabaR> its just horrible
[03:30] <Vekelar> hahahha
[03:30] <Vekelar> lol
[03:30] <thoreauputic> Vekelar: even has the female form as in "Queen Victoria " :)
[03:30] <Vekelar> oh yes.....
[03:30] <Vekelar> that's true
[03:30] <Vekelar> lol
[03:31] <Vekelar> and victoria beckham, maybe more famous lol
[03:31] <thoreauputic> right
[03:31] <dabaR> or, Doctor Thoreauputic, the lesss known form of the name victor
[03:32] <Vekelar> talking now about ubuntu...
[03:32] <thoreauputic> dabaR: I was just pointing out that both forms exist in english :)
[03:32] <Vekelar> once i broke my apt
[03:32] <medication> anyone know of a IM client that supports yahoo video?  I'm waiting for gaim 2 to be released (which will merge gaim-vv) but I was curius if there was another solution out there
[03:32] <Vekelar> i found no solution, so i had to reinstall
[03:32] <Vekelar> do you know if there is any solution?
[03:33] <thoreauputic> Vekelar: probably sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[03:33] <Vekelar> it didn't
[03:33] <Vekelar> the problem was
[03:33] <thoreauputic> that reconfigures the whole system :)
[03:33] <dabaR> Vekelar: to what? apt can be broken usually by wrong repository list or other things. for most thngs there is a fix on gnu/linux systems
[03:33] <Vekelar> that i was downloading and installing sth
[03:33] <Vekelar> and when it was installing, my battery "died"
[03:33] <Vekelar> lol
[03:34] <Vekelar> then i could do nothing
[03:34] <Vekelar> i needed a package to reconfigure the apt, but i couldn't download anything
[03:34] <Vekelar> because i needed that package to fix the apt
[03:35] <dabaR> wget did not workk for downloading?
[03:35] <thoreauputic> Vekelar: you could have downloaded the package from the archives on another box
[03:35] <Vekelar> yeah that was sth i didn't think :$
[03:35] <Vekelar> lol
[03:35] <Vekelar> or downloading with wget...
[03:35] <Vekelar> ways to be stupid...
[03:35] <Vekelar> lol
[03:36] <dabaR> thoreauputic: ya, but even without that, there are ways to sane dpkkg after breakage like that _and_ theey are shown in the error message.
[03:36] <thoreauputic> dabaR: of course
[03:36] <Vekelar> but maybe the dpkg-reconfigure
[03:36] <Vekelar> the one i tried
[03:36] <Vekelar> was aptitude --reconfigure or sth
[03:36] <Vekelar> i don't remember...
[03:36] <dabaR> Vekelar: come to the chan if you have such issues, and post exact errors, this way its theory.
[03:37] <xerox> Hi.  Can anybody use dpkg to find in which package there is this file, please?  /usr/share/doc/texmf/latex/latex2e-html/index.html
[03:37] <Vekelar> yeah.. now i don't have that problem, i was just asking for any solution when that happens
[03:37] <dabaR> thoreauputic: how come this chan is so quiet in the morning? I guess a lot of people are from north america....
[03:37] <chrisx1> im from uk:P
[03:37] <dabaR> xerox: yes, ubotu can.
[03:37] <thoreauputic> dabaR: I would guess so, yes
[03:37] <dabaR> wtheck is ubotu?
[03:37] <Vekelar> what is ubotu?
[03:37] <Vekelar> a bot?
[03:37] <dabaR> a kangaroo killed ubotu
[03:37] <thoreauputic> ubotu is AWOL
[03:37] <tuyan> ok, using pam_unix2 helps to use blowfish and md5 passwords at the same time..
[03:38] <thoreauputic> and cafuego isn't around either, I guess
[03:39] <dabaR> Vekelar: yes the resident one.
[03:39] <goliat> how can i make mysql server accessible through network?
[03:39] <thoreauputic> come back ubotu! All is forgiven!
[03:39] <Phoul> HELP!
[03:40] <Phoul> PLEASE!
[03:40] <Vekelar> how does ubotu work?
[03:40] <Phoul> I cant login!!!!
[03:40] <thoreauputic> Phazeman: ask a question, and don't shout
[03:40] <dabaR> Vekelar: when he comes, ask him about usage
[03:40] <dabaR> and about ask the bot
[03:40] <Vekelar> Phoul, have you got your root pass?
[03:40] <Phoul> Yes i can get into root
[03:40] <dabaR> Phoul: write down your passwords!
[03:40] <Phoul> I know my passwords
[03:40] <Vekelar> do a passwd
[03:40] <dabaR> good, then that is out of the way.
[03:40] <thoreauputic> Phazeman: then do passwd <username>
[03:40] <Vekelar> over your user
[03:40] <Vekelar> and change your pass
[03:41] <Phoul> When i try to login to either gnome or kde i get a eroor
[03:41] <Phoul> error
[03:41] <goliat> help guys I installed mysql using apt but i cant login from a remote pc how can i change that ?
[03:41] <slumbang> .. what is the root passwd when installing in server mode
[03:41] <thoreauputic> Phoul: did you read my suh=ggestion?
[03:41] <Phoul> Change the password
[03:41] <thoreauputic> *suggestion
[03:41] <Phoul> How/
[03:41] <Vekelar> dabaR, i said !help here, but it didn't work
[03:41] <Tony_Sidaway> Help message
[03:41] <ficusplanet> Hey everyone.  Do lithium-ion batteries need to be fully charged before first use?
[03:41] <thoreauputic> passwd <yourusername>
[03:41] <dabaR> Vekelar: like we discussed, he is missing.
[03:41] <Phoul> passwd colin
[03:42] <Phoul> -_-
[03:42] <thoreauputic> Phazeman: right, then give a new pass
[03:42] <Vekelar> yeah, when he was here i did that lol
[03:42] <Phoul> Im in failsafe teminal because i cant get anywhere
[03:42] <medication> ficusplant: that's typically a good idea, but not completely nec.
[03:42] <dabaR> goliat: did you read the mysql manual? people at #mysql know a whole world more about mysql than we do.
[03:42] <Phoul> I need to get back into gnome :'(
[03:42] <thoreauputic> Phoul: then you have root rights and you can do what we told you
[03:42] <Vekelar> yes
[03:42] <Vekelar> write passwd colin
[03:43] <goliat> dabaR, thank you
[03:43] <Vekelar> and then type a password
[03:43] <Phoul> thoreauputic: you said login to root right?
[03:43] <medication> li-ion batteries will develop a charge/use memory over time
[03:43] <dabaR> slumbang: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[03:43] <slumbang> .. after I installed "server" mode, took out cd, rebooted, finished install. Now I'm at a login screen. I can't apt-get packages because I didnt set root's passwd
[03:43] <slumbang> i have the user i made, but he cant apt
[03:43] <thoreauputic> Phoul: you should have root in rescue mode
[03:43] <blue-frog> slumbang, sudo apt-get...
[03:43] <dabaR> Phoul: you said why cant you log in?
[03:43] <slumbang> but what is root's passwd
[03:43] <Vekelar> dabaR, good question
[03:43] <dabaR> slumbang: visit the page.
[03:43] <dabaR> I always get to the point:)
[03:43] <blue-frog> slumbang, disabled your passwd is yhe one to use
[03:44] <thoreauputic> slumbang: there isn't one - use sudo
[03:44] <Vekelar> lol
[03:44] <Sp4rKy> hi
[03:44] <slumbang> lol, k then
[03:44] <Phoul> Gah i tried to login and it said something like cannot reach x session and it said it had only been on for 10 seconds and i could be relogged ro something
[03:44] <Phoul> And i tried everything but i cant even get into ion3
[03:44] <thoreauputic> slumbang: see  wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[03:44] <goliat> mysql is dead nobody answers
[03:44] <Madpilot> Phoul: did you see something about .ICEauthority?
[03:44] <Phoul> Yeah
[03:45] <dabaR> Phoul: oh, well, if it is or something, then that is fine. go read, write down, and tell us exact error. I usually erase all files under /tmp when that happens.
[03:45] <thoreauputic> Phazeman: remove the ~/.ICEauthority file
[03:45] <Phoul> whos ph
[03:45] <blue-frog> goliat, need to change network in mysql conf
[03:45] <thoreauputic> bah I meant Phoul
[03:45] <Phoul> phazeman
[03:45] <Vekelar> thoreauputic, what is in that file?
[03:45] <ubuntu> hi
[03:46] <dabaR> goliat: no, just wait. and read the manual, the part about user administration, that is what they will suggest anyhow. the manual is available with your install somewhere under /usr/share/doc or so, and online at mysql.com or whatever their page is.
[03:46] <Phoul> thoreauputic: how exactly can i get it working again
[03:46] <thoreauputic> Vekelar: it's an authority file for ICE
[03:46] <Phoul> Im in terminal mode and i dont know how to use it well
[03:46] <Phoul> And im like stuck
[03:46] <thoreauputic> Phoul:  rm ~/.ICEauthority is a start
[03:46] <blue-frog> goliat, by default it's only listening on lo
[03:46] <Vekelar> what is ice?
[03:46] <dabaR> thoreauputic: if he is logged in as safe mode root, that wont delete his user's ~/.I...
[03:46] <khalif> Man, i'm about ready to throw this dang laptop out the window!
[03:46] <thoreauputic> dabaR: good point
[03:47] <xor-pt> Where can we see all the security updates since the last ubuntu release?
[03:47] <Phoul> thoreauputic: how do i do that? in terminal mode i only have 1 terminal and its runing irc
[03:47] <dabaR> khalif: its a learning experience
[03:47] <thoreauputic> Phoul:  sorry - remove the .ICEauthority file in your home dir
[03:47] <khalif> I did some more research and came across the mtab file.
[03:47] <Phoul> thoreauputic: how
[03:47] <thoreauputic> Phoul: open a new login on tty2  ( alt-F2)
[03:47] <Phoul> How do i switch?
[03:48] <Phoul> I never delt with this before
[03:48] <thoreauputic> or tty3
[03:48] <dabaR> Phoul: first, did you boot into safe mode?
[03:48] <khalif> apparently it's a file that lists the file systems and other options to check for when trying to mount a drive or file.
[03:48] <thoreauputic> I just told you how
[03:48] <goliat> blue-frog,    is it something related to skipnetwork?
[03:48] <Phoul> doing altf2 does nothing
[03:48] <Phoul> And im in failsafe terminal because nothing els works
[03:48] <thoreauputic> Phoul: you have 6 to choose from - alt-F2, F3, F$ and so on
[03:49] <blue-frog> goliat, don't know u were asking about mysql, no?
[03:49] <dabaR> Phoul: do you have a terminal open?
[03:49] <chrisx1> its ctrl + alt + f2
[03:49] <JyZ|> Hello
[03:49] <Phoul> Yes thats how im in IRC
[03:49] <JyZ|> Hey
[03:49] <thoreauputic> Phoul: failsafe from the login screen, right?
[03:49] <chrisx1> Phoul,  its ctrl + alt + f2
[03:49] <chrisx1> to switch
[03:49] <JyZ|> How can i play mp3 files on ubuntu ?
[03:49] <thoreauputic> christel: no it isn't if he's in a tty
[03:49] <chrisx1> JyZ|, xmms?
[03:49] <goliat> yep
[03:49] <JyZ|> where i get it?
[03:49] <dabaR> JyZ|: visit http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:49] <Ng> JyZ|: see the RestrictedFormats wiki page
[03:49] <Slartibartfast> hello, could someone tell me how to change virtual desktop using the keyboard?
[03:50] <thoreauputic> christel: please be accurate if you correct people
[03:50] <chrisx1> JyZ|, sudo apt-get install xmms
[03:50] <chrisx1> well that worked for me thoreauputic
[03:50] <Phoul2> Hey okay what do i do
[03:50] <khalif> I figured out that I kept getting the HFS+ error message in tail because the mtab file expressed to look for that file system only. So I edited the file to auto and made new mount directories for the flash drive. Then I went intofstab and edited that basically the same way.
[03:50] <Phoul2> Now im in like this stupid black screen lol
[03:50] <Madpilot> Slartibartfast: Alt+Ctrl+left or right arrow keys
[03:50] <thoreauputic> christel: yes itworks, its just not necessary from a tty
[03:51] <chrisx1> ok
[03:51] <Phoul2> My god if i dont get this fixed soon im going to be in SO MUCH SHIT
[03:51] <khalif> Plugged inmy fash drive and I'm still getting error messages! This thing is killing me!
[03:51] <Phoul2> Can somone please help me :)
[03:51] <thoreauputic> Phoul: reboot, choose rescue/recovery mode - you should get a root prompt
[03:51] <dabaR> what does your prompt look like, Phoul2 ?
[03:51] <Phoul2> What does that do thoreauputic ?
[03:51] <Phoul2> dabaR: uhh black with white text and blue bars
[03:51] <thoreauputic> Phoul: it gives you an opportunity to fix the problem :)
[03:51] <leagris> Slackwise, CTRL+F1 F2 ... if with kde desktop
[03:51] <Phoul2> But i dont know how to fix it!
[03:52] <dabaR> Phoul2: I mean, at the end, is it a $ or a #?
[03:52] <concept10> someone please recommend ad cd to mp3 ripper
[03:52] <Phoul2> is what dabaR ?
[03:52] <leagris> concept10, I like grip
[03:52] <Phoul2> thoreauputic: how do i fix the problem if i dont know what it is
[03:52] <thoreauputic> Phoul: when you've done what I suggested, at the root prompt type  rm /home/youruser/.ICEauthority
[03:52] <deFrysk> concept10, sound juicer
[03:53] <pinkisntwell> how can I play wmv9 in ubuntu?
[03:53] <dabaR> what is the text of your prompt in a terminal? something like dbernar1@dabar:~$
[03:53] <concept10> sound juicer included with breezy will not rip to mp3 and I have lame installed
[03:53] <israel> hablan espaol?
[03:53] <lucasvo> is there any setting about sound in rythmbox? I have working sound in totem but there isn't any in rythmbox
[03:53] <Phoul2> ~$
[03:53] <nadia007> mornin...
[03:53] <thoreauputic> israel: /join #ubuntu-es
[03:53] <laszlok> i can see my wireless cards in the device manager, now how can i see it in the network settings?
[03:53] <dabaR> Phoul2: try rm ~/.ICEauthority.
[03:53] <vbgunz> Anybody have any idea why I cannot update my Thunderbird plugins?
[03:53] <israel> hola
[03:53] <JyZ|> where can i open terminal
[03:54] <Maifer> shit, i hate dial up
[03:54] <deFrysk> concept10, then try grip
[03:54] <thoreauputic> JyZ|: look in applications - accessories
[03:54] <Maifer> is anyone using xcompmgr?
[03:54] <leagris> concept10, the best you can to evaluate, is try by yourself and make your own opinion. Il like grip because it is a gtk frontend to cmdlines. Lightweight and onvert to anythng you should need
[03:54] <JyZ|> found
[03:54] <nadia007> israel, si quieres hayuda en espanol tienes que ir a :/join #ubuntu-es
[03:54] <JyZ|> ty :P
[03:54] <Phoul2> dabaR: done i think
[03:55] <thoreauputic> Phoul: silence is good :)
[03:55] <dabaR> Phoul2: alt+ctrl+f7 and try logging in again
[03:55] <dabaR> thoreauputic: I think he was asking what to do next:)
[03:55] <Maifer> does anyone use xcompmgr?
[03:56] <thoreauputic> dabaR: you're probably right :) It's late here ;-)
[03:56] <nadia007> anyone here have problems with on board nvidia and marvel yukon Gigabit nics?
[03:56] <Phoul2> dabaR: thank you it worked
[03:56] <Maifer> don't say marvel yukon if i'm here
[03:56] <Maifer> lol
[03:56] <Phoul2> Gah now i dont know how to get back
[03:56] <Phoul2> What buttons
[03:56] <Phoul2> ?
[03:56] <Maifer> nadia007, i had problems with that ethernet card
[03:56] <dabaR> thoreauputic: dont be a sissy, it's like 3 pm...:-/
[03:57] <thoreauputic> dabaR: 2 AM here ;)
[03:57] <Phoul2> dabaR: to go to the session i just logged into what buttons to get back
[03:57] <leagris> concept10, I launch grip, plug a CDDA, it automaticaly sart ripping, encoding to whatever I like (preferer flac) and automagically write a nice m3u playlyst with all metadata included. When finished, the CD pop out.
[03:57] <dabaR> Phoul2: get back where?
[03:57] <dabaR> oh, ya, you are in au, not nl
[03:57] <nadia007> maifer, did you find a solution?  Is it drivers issue?
[03:57] <Phoul2> ?
[03:57] <thoreauputic> Phoul2: be clear please
[03:57] <Maifer> you are on a toshiba, aren't you?
[03:57] <Phoul2> Okay to go to this i have to press  alt+ctr+f2
[03:57] <JyZ|> the media players dont work what is there
[03:57] <dabaR> Phoul2: you say what buttons. I like the shift keyl
[03:57] <Phoul2> How do i get back to the session
[03:58] <nadia007> maifer, no I'm on a MSI motherboard
[03:58] <thoreauputic> Phoul2: to get back ctrl-alt-F7
[03:58] <dabaR> Phoul2: I said that above. alt+ctrl+f7. how do you knnow it worked if you did not try, anyhow?
[03:58] <thoreauputic> or alt-F7 from a tty
[03:58] <Maifer> mmm i have a toshiba
[03:58] <Maifer> whose ehternet card is a marvel yukon
[03:58] <Maifer> with ubuntu breezy
[03:58] <thoreauputic> Phoul2: take a deep breath :)
[03:58] <lesshaste>  how can I do a line break inside a \thanks{} command in latex?
[03:59] <intelikey> just alt+f# in console mode  :)
[03:59] <quail_linux> thoreauputic: do you live in the eastern states of australia ?
[03:59] <thoreauputic> quail_linux: yes
[03:59] <JyZ|> when i try to open mp3 file with rythbox it say There is no steam on this file
[03:59] <deFrysk> concept10, in sound juicer , help and then select preferences there is a section about howto setup a mp3 profile
[03:59] <CarinArr> lesshaste, er.. wrong channel?
[03:59] <Maifer> just after installing ubuntu... ubuntu recognized both lan cards (wifi and ethernet), however, it wasn't able to make them work
[03:59] <CarinArr> lesshaste, have you tried #latex
[03:59] <nadia007> maifer, when installing ubuntu it sees it, but when I get it to detect dhcp it can't find anything... have to switch over to the nvidia card.
[03:59] <lesshaste> CarinArr,yes :(
[03:59] <quail_linux> thoreauputic: kewl i live in Sth Aust
[03:59] <vir> bye / thx
[03:59] <thoreauputic> JyZ|: read wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:59] <CarinArr> lesshaste, have you tried \\
[03:59] <Maifer> yeah, in my laptop, the problem is with the firewire
[03:59] <lesshaste> CarinArr, yes...it doesn't work
[03:59] <Maifer> always the firewire
[03:59] <thoreauputic> JyZ|: you need mp3 support
[03:59] <Maifer> lol
[04:00] <concept10> damn, its not working for me.  (grip) cant find the encoder
[04:00] <dabaR> JyZ|: did you install mp3 support? we told you the URl, I believe.
[04:00] <phoul> w00t im back in
[04:00] <nadia007> maifer, I have firewire as well on the motherboard...  don't need it wonder if it would help if I disabled it?
[04:00] <Maifer> i found the solution by telling the hotplug not to load the firewire controller
[04:00] <phoul> Is that all i needed to do?
[04:00] <JyZ|> u mean w32codecs?
[04:00] <dabaR> phoul: does it all work again?
[04:00] <thoreauputic> phoul: evidently yes
[04:00] <CarinArr> some environments in latex are iffy when it comes to linebreaks.. i'm assuming the normal where you make sure you have a blank line in between doesn't work
[04:00] <concept10> okay, here we go
[04:00] <Maifer> yeah disable it, and i hope/suppose the lan cards will work then
[04:00] <nadia007> maifer, hmm..  might try that, seeing if that helps..
[04:00] <dabaR> JyZ|: xmms or libmad for mp3s. wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:00] <phoul> Yeah dabaR But what was with ICEauthority?
[04:00] <thoreauputic> JyZ|: no - read the URL I gave you
[04:00] <pinkisntwell> how can I see the properties of a launcher which is in the applications menu? i mean what file it's launching
[04:00] <nadia007> maifer, thanks for the heads up.
[04:01] <dabaR> phoul, I dont know, but good work fixing that one.
[04:01] <Maifer> nadia007, edit /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[04:01] <JyZ|> now installed xnms
[04:01] <Maifer> and add this: ohci1394
[04:01] <JyZ|> xmms
[04:01] <phoul> Lol dabaR you and thoreauputic fixed it not me
[04:01] <JyZ|> what now
[04:01] <thoreauputic> phoul: ICEauthority gives authority for inter process communication - it's used mainly by KDE
[04:01] <phoul> which i dont even have
[04:01] <phoul> ><
[04:01] <Maifer> then you'll have to reboot
[04:02] <JyZ|> what now
[04:02] <dabaR> phoul: yes, that was a joking comment.
[04:02] <Maifer> let's see if then works
[04:02] <thoreauputic> phoul: it can get stuffed if you run apps as root
[04:02] <phoul> Lol dabaR and thoreauputic thank you so much
[04:02] <nadia007> maifer, sweet.. thanks
[04:02] <israel> quien me puede ayudar en espaol
[04:02] <jah_raztah> is there such a resourse i can use to see the current progress of version 6.04?
[04:02] <OneSeventeen> I have an ubuntu server and I can only access it from within the same subnet, am I doing something wrong?
[04:02] <JyZ|> what now i got xmms?
[04:02] <phoul> I would have been in shit if my mom saw me doing this stuff lol
[04:02] <phoul> ><
[04:02] <JyZ|> installed
[04:02] <jah_raztah> like what is complete/incomplete/in progress
[04:02] <JyZ|> sudo apt-get install xmms with that command
[04:02] <Maifer> israel, join #ubuntu-es
[04:02] <dabaR> phoul: thats nothing, just put $20 on my paypal.
[04:02] <israel> por favor hableme alguien en espaol
[04:02] <phoul> Lol i would if i had money
[04:02] <chrisx1> dabaR, lmfao
[04:02] <thoreauputic> phoul: if you try to run apps as root in X, that file and .Xauthority can change permisions and lock you out
[04:03] <nadia007> israel, tienes que cambiar a otro canal, este es solo en ingles, tienes que ir a #ubuntu-es
[04:03] <dabaR> israel: #ubuntu-es
[04:03] <JyZ|> dabaR, i installed now xmms (sudo apt-get install xmms) what now?
[04:03] <Maifer> anybody uses xcompmgr?
[04:03] <laszlok> i can see my wireless cards in the device manager, now how can i see it in the network settings?
[04:03] <phoul> thoreauputic, so can i still run things as root?
[04:03] <jah_raztah> JyZ|, try running the program
[04:03] <lesshaste> CarinArr,  \thanks{every\protect\\one} :)
[04:03] <thoreauputic> phoul: never run X apps as root
[04:04] <dabaR> JyZ|: now run xmms, it is in the apps menu, under sound and video, and it plays mp3s. you will get it to freeze when you strat playing a file. come back and tell me I was right.
[04:04] <phoul> what are X apps?
[04:04] <thoreauputic> phoul: if you need to, use gksudo
[04:04] <JyZ|> ill try
[04:04] <thoreauputic> phoul: graphical apps
[04:04] <phoul> Uhh
[04:04] <phoul> What about synaptic
[04:04] <Maifer> nadia007, does it work?
[04:04] <phoul> ...
[04:04] <phoul> ohh you mean dont login as root
[04:04] <JyZ|> debaR, the sound is not working :S
[04:04] <thoreauputic> phoul: when you start synaptic it asks for your password - that's OK
[04:05] <phoul> Ohh aight
[04:05] <blue-frog> OneSeventeen, u need to tell ur gateway/computer what route to use for a different subnet
[04:05] <dabaR> jah_raztah: well, for one, you can read the devel mailing lists, search through launchpad, and google about it a little in general.
[04:05] <nadia007> maifer, I'm reinstalling ubuntu on my box... it had a serious crash over the weekend due to the nics.
[04:05] <phoul> Umm when i start konqueror sometimes i do kdesu konqueror for certin things is that okay?
[04:05] <dabaR> JyZ|: does the program freeze when you press play?
[04:05] <deFrysk> concept10, i made a screenshot of how to set up soudjuicer for mp3
[04:05] <pinkisntwell> gmplayer plays sound but mplayer doesn't
[04:05] <Maifer> lol
[04:05] <Maifer> good luck
[04:05] <Maifer> i have to reinstall it soon
[04:05] <jck> hi can anyone help me configure ubuntu with lvm on raid1
[04:05] <pinkisntwell> what can i do?
[04:05] <Maifer> linux isn't able to turn my pc off
[04:05] <thoreauputic> phoul: if you use kdesu it's OK
[04:05] <Maifer> :(
[04:05] <Maifer> it was until yesterday
[04:05] <phoul> kk thank you
[04:05] <JyZ|> debaR, nope it plays... but i cant hear ANY sound
[04:05] <phoul> :D
[04:05] <JyZ|> debaR, from anywhere
[04:05] <nadia007> maifer, tell me about
[04:06] <Maifer> about what?
[04:06] <dabaR> JyZ|: your whole system has no sound whatsoever?
[04:06] <thoreauputic> phoul: just don't run for instance " sudo konqueror " or try to run konqueror from a root terminal
[04:06] <nadia007> maifer, sry just an expression.
[04:06] <deFrysk> concept10, http://johanvrt.tomaatnet.nl/sound-juicer-mp3.png
[04:06] <Kibou> are the new nvidia drivers gonna be in the repos soon or should I install them manually?
[04:06] <phoul> kk
[04:06] <Maifer> i'm not english, loll
[04:07] <phoul> Ohh thats what i did then
[04:07] <JyZ|> debaR, i got soundblast live 24bit sound card?
[04:07] <phoul> I did sudo konqueor last night before i logged off
[04:07] <deFrysk> concept10, and make sure to apt-get install gstreamer0.8-lame
[04:07] <JyZ|> debaR, but here in linux it use  CA0106 (Alsa Mixer)
[04:07] <thoreauputic> phoul: yes, the result is your authority file gets root permissions - so your user can'tt access it any more
[04:07] <JyZ|> debaR, strange
[04:07] <trappist> JyZ|: it wants to use emu10k1
[04:07] <dabaR> my nick is dabaR
[04:07] <phoul> umm since i removed that ICE thingy is that a probelm?
[04:07] <trappist> JyZ|: that way you'll get hardware mixing
[04:07] <reagleBRKLN> When i copy a large file, my whole system crawls. Yes, dma is turned on. Any suggestions or is this normal for a cp or kio_file to dominate the resources?
[04:07] <phoul> Like do i need to put it back on?
[04:08] <thoreauputic> phoul: it regenerates on login
[04:08] <phoul> Ahh okay
[04:08] <JyZ|> trappist what shall i do so i get it working ?
[04:08] <phoul> Thank you thoreauputic :)
[04:08] <dabaR> phoul: like, dont worry, it will all work out, if it is working.
[04:08] <KBlacKBoX> hi all
[04:08] <thoreauputic> phoul: no worries :)
[04:08] <trappist> reagleBRKLN: a) are you sure dma was successfully turned on?  sounds like your ide controller isn't (fully) supported
[04:08] <phoul> and dabaR thank you to :D:D
[04:08] <KBlacKBoX> some one can help me to install the java ?
[04:08] <phoul> Im just glad you guys was on because i would have had to take off linux is my mom saw that
[04:08] <JyZ|> trappist, what should i do to get it work propebly?
[04:08] <phoul> SHe hates it as it is
[04:08] <intelikey> ubotu ?
[04:09] <deFrysk> !tell KBlacKBoX about java
[04:09] <phoul> But if it had a problem
[04:09] <dabaR> ubotu is missing, deFrysk
[04:09] <trappist> JyZ|: I don't think ubuntu ships alsaconf, which is kinda lame... that's what I used to use to make sure the right audio drivers were set up
[04:09] <phoul> Gah
[04:09] <Madpilot> deFrysk: we're botless ATM
[04:09] <intelikey> where da bot ?
[04:09] <reagleBRKLN> trappist: hdparm thinks so, see http://rafb.net/paste/results/tCQk4V82.html
[04:09] <KBlacKBoX> !tel
[04:09] <deFrysk> omg :s
[04:09] <KBlacKBoX> **
[04:09] <KBlacKBoX> !tell
[04:09] <KBlacKBoX> yes*
[04:09] <JyZ|> trappist, :S so i cant get it workin?
[04:09] <trappist> reagleBRKLN: I'm stuck in a console atm so I'll take your word for it.  you might check dmesg for anything unusual.
[04:09] <dabaR> http://giannaros.com/breezydebs afaicanremember
[04:09] <thoreauputic> KBlacKBoX: ubotu is not in the channel
[04:10] <ko> Vagina Electrica!
[04:10] <KBlacKBoX> lol
[04:10] <intelikey> !tell me about utobu
[04:10] <KBlacKBoX> my english is too bad :(
[04:10] <thoreauputic> intelikey: waste of time
[04:10] <trappist> JyZ|: alsaconf is just a frontend.  it can be made to work, but I wouldn't know how off the top of my head without alsaconf.  or, maybe you could download it and build it yourself.  or maybe I'm wrong and it's available :)
[04:10] <deFrysk> KBlacKBoX, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#sect-java
[04:10] <intelikey> thoreauputic the bot was ?
[04:10] <thoreauputic> intelikey: ubotu is currently AWOL :)
[04:11] <KBlacKBoX> deFrysk merci !
[04:11] <JyZ|> trappist, Too bad
[04:11] <OneSeventeen> Is there a way to make my webserver accessable to everyone, not just my subnet?
[04:11] <deFrysk> <--not a bot
[04:11] <intelikey> thoreauputic yeah that is what i was asking about /
[04:11] <thoreauputic> deFrysk: could have fooled me ;-)
[04:11] <trappist> JyZ|: you could try modprobe -r whateverdriver and modprobe emu10k1
[04:12] <holycow> what is the ubuntu service called that tries to sync the clock on boot?
[04:12] <thoreauputic> holycow:  ntpdate
[04:12] <nadia007> oneseventeen, try http://ubuntuguide.org this is a great guide!
[04:12] <dabaR> OneSeventeen: is it connnected to the Internet?
[04:12] <intelikey> holycow ntpd
[04:12] <deFrysk> nadia no
[04:12] <holycow> danke, time to remove that
[04:12] <intelikey> holycow or ntp
[04:12] <deFrysk> nadia007, its the worst
[04:12] <JyZ|> trappist, mm u know any emulator i could get steam working (www.steampowered.com)
[04:12] <dabaR> nadia007: its in fact a horribly outdated and brave guide.
[04:12] <reagleBRKLN> in anycase the problem doesn't seem to be with the drive performance, it's moving data fast enough,  it just makes everything else go unresponsive
[04:12] <erUSUL> !ubuntuguide
[04:12] <trappist> JyZ|: www.transgaming.com
[04:12] <nadia007> dabar, really...  I've always used it...
[04:12] <OneSeventeen> dabaR: Yes, the other servers connected to the same switch are viewable globally
[04:12] <JyZ|> tyy :P
[04:12] <OneSeventeen> but mine isn't.
[04:12] <dabaR> erUSUL: ubuntu is not here.
[04:13] <deFrysk> nadia007, better stop using it ;)
[04:13] <dabaR> OneSeventeen: does your computer have a global IP address?
[04:13] <JyZ|> trappist, it cost?
[04:13] <OneSeventeen> dabaR: yup.
[04:13] <nadia007> just curious... what's so bad about it?
[04:13] <intelikey> holycow are you asking what init script runs it ?    if so look in /etc/rcS.d/
[04:13] <trappist> JyZ|: you can get the cvs version for free
[04:13] <OneSeventeen> dabaR: I'm just using the IP and subnet mask, do I need to give it the gateway address too?
[04:13] <thoreauputic> GLOBAL NOTICE: Please do not recommend ubuntuguide.org - it's out of date
[04:13] <holycow> intelikey, just wanted to remove ntpdate
[04:14] <dabaR> OneSeventeen: whats the Ip adddress?
[04:14] <OneSeventeen> 129.24.216.42
[04:14] <nadia007> kay... that makes sense.
[04:14] <OneSeventeen> I just added the gateway address and restarted the networking services.
[04:14] <[A] ndy80> has Firefox 1.5 been introduced in Dapper?
[04:15] <trappist> thoreauputic: it's a rare treat to see someone spell 'recommend' correctly on the irc
[04:15] <KBlacKBoX> synaptik I belve in U
[04:15] <JyZ|> trappist, i cant find url ? to the free one
[04:15] <dabaR> nadia007: it has the hoary sources.list, and enables backports by default. those are my main beefs with it. It broke my system on the warty>hoary upgrade, and many many other ones that we here fixed(probbably many more, that did not come here) it is not a starter guide in that sense, cause a starter dooes not know better.
[04:15] <thoreauputic> trappist: heh - I avoided a typo at least :)
[04:15] <intelikey> holycow i would remove the init script (symlink actually) and keep the ntp (network time protocal) so you can still sync your clock manuelly if you need too.
[04:15] <OneSeventeen> can someone try going to http://129.24.216.42/ and tell me if it works
[04:15] <trappist> JyZ|: I'm currently hobbled in a console at the moment or I'd try to help, but it's there
[04:15] <holycow> intelikey, not a bad idea
[04:15] <JyZ|> trappist, k
[04:16] <Vekelar> 15 minutes after my conection hanged up, the nick i had is killed
[04:16] <Vekelar> 15 minutes later
[04:16] <absenth> would I be correct in assuming Zen is an open source project similar to Vmware?
[04:16] <trappist> absenth: sorta, yeah
[04:16] <crimsun> absenth: Xen?
[04:16] <Vekelar> is anyone using xcompmgr?
[04:16] <trappist> yes
[04:16] <dabaR> OneSeventeen: that Ip address is unreachable from the Internet.
[04:16] <intelikey> OneSeventeen yep
[04:16] <trappist> oops
[04:16] <absenth> trappist, crimsun, Yeah that's it....  explains why I couldn't find the project homepage.
[04:16] <Vekelar> anybody answers that question, does that mean that anybody is using it?
[04:17] <Vekelar> transgress, are you using it?
[04:17] <intelikey> OneSeventeen i got it just fine.
[04:17] <OneSeventeen> I just now reset the network interfaces, so looks like it needed the gateway address....
[04:17] <intelikey>                                                         UNM Department of Human Resources
[04:17] <trappist> Vekelar: you might have better luck asking an actual question about it
[04:18] <OneSeventeen> okay, thanks for the help.  (and no, that is not the page on the server, but the server is being used to redirect to that page until the new site is up)
[04:18] <dabaR> OneSeventeen: ya, its just unpingable, but the web service seems to work.
[04:18] <OneSeventeen> dabaR: thanks
[04:18] <Vekelar> trappist, lol
[04:18] <Vekelar> xcompmgr works too slow on my pc
[04:18] <Vekelar> i've got direct rendering
[04:18] <Vekelar> do you know why is it?
[04:19] <trappist> Vekelar: maybe because you have direct rendering :)  atm composite and dri don't work so well together.
[04:19] <frogz02> no ubotu ?
[04:19] <Kibou> anyone tried the new nvidia drivers already?
[04:19] <Vekelar> i thought that having the graphics card working would help...
[04:20] <intelikey> frogz02 no.   ubotu is MIA
[04:20] <thoreauputic> frogz02: ubotu has taken a holiday it seems
[04:20] <GreenCult> buenos dias a todos
[04:20] <Vekelar> however, i've deinstalled it... i think my laptop doesn't shut down properly because of it
[04:20] <trappist> Vekelar: it partly depends on your card.  it really, really sucks on my ati card no matter what, and it works ok on my nvidia card as long as I don't try to enable dri/glx
[04:21] <erUSUL> GreenCult, mejor prueba en #ubuntu-es este canal es en ingles slo
[04:21] <thoreauputic> Good night all, 2:20 AM is late enough ...
[04:21] <Vekelar> trappist, incredible...
[04:21] <Vekelar> my card is an ati radeon 128mb
[04:21] <trappist> Vekelar: the feature is very young and incomplete
[04:22] <Vekelar> i can't exlplain myself why it doesn't work..
[04:22] <JyZ|> how do i get azereus working?
[04:22] <Vekelar> the solution is forget about xcompmgr
[04:22] <Vekelar> lol
[04:22] <trappist> Vekelar: for now, that's probably the best solution
[04:22] <trappist> Vekelar: also, what video drivers are you using?
[04:23] <frogz02> JyZ|: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75272
[04:23] <Vekelar> fgrlx
[04:23] <holycow> does anyone know if a java deb exists for breezy?  i don't have enough time to build my own ...
[04:23] <trappist> Vekelar: you might try with the oss ati drivers
[04:23] <intelikey> holycow yes it does
[04:24] <olicat> any ideas how i can get syntax highlighting in vim, on breezy?
[04:24] <holycow> intelikey, googling now :)
[04:24] <Vekelar> trappist, would you mind telling me how? lol
[04:24] <Vekelar> could be a good idea
[04:24] <intelikey> multiverse has it  iirc
[04:24] <erUSUL> holycow, there are debs but my memory is not as good as ubotu's ;)
[04:24] <holycow> !java
[04:24] <intelikey> the bot's on leave
[04:24] <trappist> Vekelar: change 'fglrx' to 'ati' in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and get rid of any fglrx-specific stuff in the 'device' section
[04:24] <thefish> is it possible to install from a live CD?
[04:24] <holycow> hehe :)
[04:25] <trappist> olicat: :syntax on
[04:25] <holycow> ah well, google loves seveas
[04:25] <holycow> and so do we
[04:25] <holycow> :)
[04:25] <odie5533> How do you search in vim?
[04:25] <trappist> odie5533: /searchterm
[04:25] <Seveas> holycow, ?
[04:25] <jbroome>  /foo
[04:25] <frogz02> odie5533: /
[04:25] <intelikey> thefish sure it is.   you might be asking is it easy.  not really no.
[04:25] <jbroome> n finds the next instance of foo
[04:25] <odie5533> Is there some advanced vim tut some where? vimtutor is rather short
[04:25] <Vekelar> olicat, edit /etc/vimrc
[04:26] <JyZ|> frogz02, where can i download a free game emulator? working one :P
[04:26] <holycow> Seveas, according to google you have built java debs for us poor folk once again :)
[04:26] <thefish> intelikey: go on then
[04:26] <trappist> odie5533: I think I have one or two up at howto.linuxkungfu.org
[04:26] <Seveas> holycow, really?
[04:26] <olicat> cheers
[04:26] <PsychoticAmber> hi everyone o.O im kelpie from the forums
[04:26] <thefish> its an ftp install?
[04:26] <Vekelar> odie5533, do a vimtutor in console
[04:26] <Seveas> I did build java debs this morning
[04:26] <frogz02> JyZ|: no idea, sry
[04:26] <holycow> lol Seveas thats the thinkin anyways :)
[04:26] <Seveas> but they're not linked anywhere :)
[04:27] <valberg> how do i update from warty warthog (4.10) to breezy badger 5.04 ?
[04:27] <trappist> ok gonna reboot into this hopefully-fixed dapper, bbiaf
[04:27] <frogz02> valberg: you need to do a dist-upgrade to hoary - and then to breezy - DONT miss the middle step - google for details
[04:27] <absenth> is there a guide anywhere for Ubuntu that covers a Soup to Nuts approach to connecting to Wireless lans?
[04:28] <intelikey> thefish you can use fdisk/cfdisk and setup the new root partition.  then copy the running system to that new partition.  reconfigure a few config files in /etc and blamoh  you've installed.    oh and install a boot loader to start the thing.
[04:28] <thefish> whats it use, grub?
[04:28] <erUSUL> valberg, breezy is 5.10 hoary is 5.04. Never tried a two version upgrade at once neither know if it is possible...
[04:28] <thefish> peh, may be quicker to use install disk
[04:28] <RATTrigger> Looks kind of busy here
[04:29] <intelikey> thefish it would be better to use the install disk.
[04:29] <frogz02> erUSUL: it can't be done - it takes 2 steps
[04:29] <xslf> valberg: I will be hesitant to upgrade two versions at once. It might be risky.
[04:29] <adj> this is absurd. why would a auto update from synaptic break my nvidia kernel module
[04:30] <frogz02> xslf: the docs explicity say not to do it - things will break badly - it takes 2 steps
[04:30] <thefish> does the livecd not automount anything?
[04:30] <intelikey> what exactly do you mean "two versions at once"  from 5.4 to 6.4 ?
[04:30] <Madpilot> RATTrigger: no, this is quiet by #ubuntu standards ;)
[04:31] <RATTrigger> Good
[04:31] <adj> !tell me about nvidia
[04:31] <RATTrigger> Cause I'm ready for anything
[04:31] <adj> !ubotu tell me about nvidia
[04:31] <Amaranth> You can't upgrade from warty to breezy, you have to go warty->hoary->breezy
[04:32] <PsychoticAmber> anyone know how to do an install using the iso from slave drive and installing it to harddrive? i know its possible, just how to go about it i do not know
[04:32] <frogz02> adj: ubotu is awol - i's a tan his hide when he gets back
[04:32] <iiki> anyone here use a ati radeon 7000?
[04:32] <RATTrigger> now in #kubuntu and #blackbox
[04:32] <JyZ> how can i open Install BIN files?
[04:32] <intelikey> no way would i even think about upgrading two releases....  fresh install man
[04:32] <adj> frogz02: it doesnt really matter. im through with this distro and the fucked up repos
[04:33] <JyZ> ?
[04:33] <frogz02> JyZ: usually you just run them...
[04:33] <JyZky> i run em
[04:33] <iiki> also does anyone know of a good VNC server client that was a GUI interface?
[04:33] <JyZky> but they dont start...
[04:33] <iiki> has*
[04:33] <RATTrigger> radeon is weak. I only use nvidia with OpenGL to play the doom....
[04:33] <JyZky> blalba Cannot be shown
[04:33] <rambo3> you have to convert bin files
[04:33] <thefish> whats the default root pass on livecd?
[04:33] <JyZky> how where?
[04:33] <frogz02> adj: as you wish - breezy is very nice though
[04:33] <MonsieurBon> hello. I just installed vpnc, but there's no vpnc-connect. What can I do about that?
[04:33] <JyZky> where and how? rambo3
[04:33] <adj> frogz02: yeh. been running it for the last 4-5 months
[04:34] <rambo3> search conver bin to iso
[04:34] <adj> frogz02: and 1 out of 4 upgrades from synaptic breaks sound or video
[04:34] <rambo3> chunk or something
[04:34] <intelikey> thefish is there a root password on the live cd ?
[04:34] <JyZky> say the bin file is a setup
[04:34] <thefish> intelikey: no idea, i try to su - and it asks for one
[04:34] <adj> frogz02: which never happened in debian, and sure ashell never happened in slack or my bsd's
[04:34] <thefish> sudo works without though
[04:34] <frogz02> adj: so where 2 next? back to debian? or freebsd?
[04:34] <intelikey> thefish 'whoami'
[04:34] <Fleischlego> Heya.
[04:34] <thefish> intelikey: non-root
[04:35] <adj> frogz02: probably a quick ru at gentoo to see how it is sourcing everything, then i dunno deb or slack
[04:35] <rambo3> JyZky search  bchunk
[04:35] <thefish> i dont want to sudo xyz all the time
[04:35] <intelikey> thefish try 'sudo -'  and see what it tells ya
[04:35] <JyZky> rambo3 can u find 4 me iam n00b
[04:35] <xslf> thefish: there is no root user. to open a root teminal, use sudo su -
[04:35] <thefish> intelikey: help stuff
[04:35] <rambo3> its in apt
[04:35] <intelikey> xslf bull roar
[04:35] <thefish> xslf: thanks
[04:35] <frogz02> thefish: it's the price u pay for security
[04:36] <adj> frogz02: its dissapointing though. i hope you guys can get ubuntu to a successfull (marketable) point
[04:36] <thefish> hehehe
[04:36] <jck> can anyone help me with lvm and raid?
[04:36] <JyZky> rambo3 and where is apt :-D
[04:36] <intelikey> thefish you can do a 'sudo bash'   ?
[04:36] <MonsieurBon> how do I get vpnc-connect? I installed vpnc, but it says "command not found"
[04:36] <thefish> intelikey: sudo su - worked fine
[04:37] <thefish> now to mount lvm?
[04:37] <frogz02> adj: I'm not on the team - just a casual bystander - would really like to see widespread of any distro though, & atm, ubuntu looks the best bet
[04:37] <intelikey> same thing....
[04:37] <thefish> i dont have any lvm stuff under /dev
[04:37] <thefish> mdadm works on live?
[04:37] <jck> no moving physical volume to a raid device
[04:37] <jck> pvmove hangs
[04:37] <iiki> if anyone is interested in using VNC, get x11vnc using synaptic.  Then you can use the ultravnc viewer to view current X session
[04:37] <eyequeue> is anyone else haveing trouble with google?     Your client has issued a malformed or illegal request.
[04:37] <thefish> aah its named differently, volumes are /dev/system/foo
[04:38] <eyequeue> this is just with "lynx http://google.com/"
[04:38] <rambo3> JyZky -> go to -> Programs -> add/remove programs -> archive (change to advanced )-> search : bchunk
[04:38] <frogz02> eyequeue: not recently - probs ur end
[04:38] <blue-frog> iiki, just use system prefernces remote desktop...
[04:38] <intelikey> well i'm at the point where this thing will probably hang.  so if i just disappear on ya you know why.....
[04:38] <iiki> really?
[04:38] <iiki> haha
[04:38] <frogz02> eyequeue:  mtu issues? u on dsl?
[04:38] <JyZky> no results :S
[04:38] <blue-frog> iiki, it will do what u want without adding a new program..
[04:39] <eyequeue> frogz02, any idea what would cause that?
[04:39] <JyZky> it say no resaults
[04:39] <MonsieurBon> no help here then... :(
[04:39] <frogz02> ^^
[04:39] <eyequeue> frogz02, i have adsl, yes, but that's never been a factor before
[04:39] <jck> i create a phsical volume on a raid device, add it do volume group Ubuntu, and then I try tu use pvmove to free the non raid device
[04:39] <rambo3> then you need to add repos
[04:39] <JyZky> rambo it say no result
[04:39] <xored> as i have installed ubuntu before, i had WinXP running. So i installed Linux as "second" system. Now iqam going to delete Windows. My question is about grub. I`ve installed grub on the partition of WinXP, so if i delete this partition, i would not be ablt to boot, or ?
[04:39] <JyZky> its added?
[04:39] <jck> pvmove hangs and leaves a mess
[04:40] <frogz02> eyequeue: try setting the mtu to 1440 - your isp might have made some changes
[04:40] <JyZky> :S:S
[04:40] <eyequeue> frogz02, it also doesn't specify *whay* "request" it considers to be "malformed or illegal" (unhelpfully)
[04:40] <iiki> amazing
[04:40] <iiki> where were you like 3 days ago
[04:40] <eyequeue> frogz02, um, okay, you'll have to help me out here, how do i set mtu in lynx?
[04:40] <blue-frog> here certainly
[04:41] <frogz02> eyequeue: the setting u need is in /etc/ppp/peers/dsl-provider
[04:41] <adj> xored: you need to remove windows. boot linux from cd, reinstall grub, then reboot from the HD
[04:41] <eyequeue> frogz02, i don't use ppp here, i have adsl
[04:41] <iiki> thanks a ton, i really enjoy using a vnc client from the school computers cause they are lame
[04:41] <adj> anyone on the team here?
[04:41] <frogz02> eyequeue: add a line: "mtu 1440"
[04:42] <frogz02> eyequeue: oh - my bad
[04:42] <adj> or anyone else have an nvidia card stop working after last kernel upgrade?
[04:42] <eyequeue> frogz02, the file you mentioned does not exist here
[04:42] <xored> adj:  could i just install grub from my linux right now ?
[04:43] <frogz02> eyequeue: are you running pppoe?
[04:43] <seriesx> yes my nvidia card stopped working after an upgrade
[04:43] <eyequeue> frogz02, no
[04:43] <adj> xored: if you installed to the MBR, yeh
[04:43] <seriesx> and that's how it is supposed to be, just reinstall the nvidia driver?
[04:43] <eyequeue> frogz02, this is wireless here
[04:43] <blue-frog> yes
[04:43] <frogz02> eyequeue: oh, and the AP routes to your isp?
[04:43] <adj> seriesx: dunno.
[04:43] <xored> adj : No as i installed ubuntu, i`ve installed grub on the first partition. Now i want to install him on the MBR
[04:44] <xored> adj: how can i do this?
[04:44] <eyequeue> frogz02, the router (which i don't admin) handles the interaction with the isp, but i do know there is no pppoe involved at all, this is adsl from the telco, not a cablemodem
[04:44] <adj> xored: i just told you
[04:44] <frogz02> xored: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst then run 'sudo grub-install'
[04:44] <eyequeue> frogz02, correct
[04:44] <intelikey> xored 'grub-install /dev/hda '  assumes ide
[04:45] <frogz02> eyequeue: low signal problems?
[04:45] <xored>  iam not sure, but i remeber having problems installing it on the MBR. the linux boot partition is after 8GB on the HDD. Coudl that be a problem ?
[04:45] <eyequeue> frogz02, no, i don't think so, as i'm here with you :)
[04:46] <intelikey> xored on older bios's yes it is.
[04:46] <xored> adj, frogz02 , intelikey : so iam gonnna install it on the MBR of the HDD, not of a specific partition, right ?
[04:46] <frogz02> eyequeue: shift reload?
[04:46] <xored> intelikey: no its an new nfroce3
[04:46] <eyequeue> frogz02, sorry, what's shift reload mean?
[04:46] <frogz02> xored: /dev/hda is the disk, not a partition
[04:46] <intelikey> shouldn't be a problem then.
[04:46] <xored> frogz02: yes sure
[04:47] <xored> frogz02: iam just asking
[04:47] <frogz02> eyequeue: if you click 'reload' button while holding 'shift' key - you will clear the browser cache for that page
[04:47] <eyequeue> frogz02, um, this is lynx, there's no "click" here :)
[04:47] <frogz02> eyequeue: sometimes the cache copy gets corrupt & needs to be cleared
[04:48] <frogz02> eyequeue: oh i c - d'oh
[04:48] <eyequeue> frogz02, ^R does what you seem to mean though, and trying that, i get a fresh copy of the 400 error page here
[04:48] <intelikey> eyequeue don't ya just love help from a GUI perspective   :)
[04:48] <eyequeue> intelikey, heh
[04:49] <eyequeue> intelikey, at least i could translate, once i had a description of the intent :)
[04:49] <miker> Ladies, gentlemen: Nooby with a question here;
[04:49] <intelikey> yeah   :)
[04:49] <miker> Whats the process to update/upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10?
[04:50] <eyequeue> the catch is, firefox seems to be hosed here at the moment too
[04:50] <nutter426> is there a known issue with system admin with long passwords (11 characters)?
[04:50] <frogz02> eyequeue: is  this for all pages/sites?
[04:50] <Madpilot> miker: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[04:50] <miker> Thanks a ton.
[04:50] <eyequeue> miker, "apt-get dist-upgrade" after you make the appropriate changes to /etc/apt/sources.list and run 'apt-get update' to source those changes
[04:50] <frogz02> nutter426: think passwd is ltd to 8 chars
[04:50] <Madpilot> np
[04:51] <_jason> ubotu, where art thoumy ubotu
[04:51] <intelikey> Madpilot who's box is ubotu on anyway?
[04:51] <nutter426> that to me intelikey?
[04:51] <frogz02> miker - make sure to install the meta pkgs 1st - ubuntu-base & ubuntu-desktop
[04:51] <eyequeue> frogz02, ubuntu.com seems error-free here, just google being bad to me
[04:51] <thefish> nutter426: there should not be a problem, not sure what crypt ubuntu uses, but it will be at least 254 chars
[04:52] <intelikey> mutter426 nosir
[04:52] <Madpilot> intelikey: cafeugo's (sp?)
[04:52] <intelikey> ah
[04:52] <frogz02> eyequeue: well I'd say that nails it as a google problem....
[04:52] <Royce> i am tying the livecd, i cannot access the internet through firefox in x, but I can ping outside net addresses, any clues?
[04:53] <intelikey> and that whole server is offline atm
[04:53] <eyequeue> frogz02, yes, but of course, like so many, my world involves needing google for info ... and somehow *others* aren't having this trouble with google now? :(
[04:53] <nutter426> the reason i ask is because i was in yesterday asking about "child exited with 1 status" and was told it was a password error, but i can run synaptic as root, and it works fine, but when i have to type my password into an automatic pop-up i have troubles. my password is 11 letters
[04:53] <frogz02> Royce: can you 'nslookup www.yahoo.com' ?
[04:54] <frogz02> eyequeue: maybe try closing lynx & restarting?
[04:54] <eyequeue> frogz02, if you can reach google, can you find me an email addy there to write to to ask them to repair things?
[04:54] <rambo3> nutter436 , did you make root account?
[04:54] <Royce> frogz02: yes, it returns sveral ip's
[04:54] <eyequeue> frogz02, i tried that before coming here, tried everything i could think of before asking for help actually :)
[04:54] <_jason> Royce, have you tried a different browser?
[04:54] <frogz02> eyequeue: google already know their servers have a problem ;)
[04:55] <intelikey> mutter426 there is no known issue with passwords upto 32 chars
[04:55] <eyequeue> frogz02, oh, i thought someone said google was fine, it was just me, okay now i'm confused
[04:55] <intelikey> rambo3 every linux system has the root account.
[04:55] <frogz02> eyequeue: that error 400 u see is thrown by the server - the server will post it to syslog, & their noc will flag it, I'm guessing
[04:56] <eyequeue> frogz02, aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh
[04:56] <nutter426> rambo: yes, i have a root account we both share the same password
[04:56] <frogz02> eyequeue: google has a huge server farm - there might be a problem just on one server
[04:57] <nutter426> any other ideas why i would have problems on 2 different machines with the same passwords?
[04:57] <eyequeue> frogz02, now to just hope that a site with the volume of google.com cares about single instances of 400s :)  i'm thinking they'd only care if 90% of hits weer affected or something :/
[04:57] <frogz02> eyequeue: also, would be interesting if you've tried other, unrelated queries
[04:57] <nutter426> in case it matters, my laptop is running hoary (updating to breezy as we speak) and my desktop has a fresh install of breezy
[04:58] <Royce> looks like google is the only page I can't load, nm
[04:58] <eyequeue> frogz02, well, i hadn't even gotten to the feeding-it-a-query stage yet, just trying to get connected TO http://google.com/ to get that line on which to type the query, spits the 400 error
[04:58] <intelikey> nutter426 all i can say is change the password and test it.  then you will know if that is the cause.
[04:58] <Royce> looks like other people are talkin bout that too
[04:58] <eyequeue> Royce, you have google troubles too??  i get 400's from them at present
[04:58] <frogz02> eyequeue: www.google.com ?
[04:58] <nutter426> time for a noob moment... whats the best way to change a password?
[04:59] <Royce> i cant connect at all, i can ping em
[04:59] <Madpilot> google.com & google.ca both work here
[04:59] <rambo3> i was think of enabled root account , intelikey
[04:59] <eyequeue> frogz02, i've never added the www. before, let me try
[04:59] <frogz02> nutter426: passwd
[04:59] <Royce> everything else works though
[04:59] <nutter426> ty frogz
[04:59] <Madpilot> nutter426: System menu -> Admin -> Users & groups
[04:59] <slumbang> from a console install, what do I need to install for fluxbox
[04:59] <intelikey> rambo3 it is enabled.   it just doesn't have a password set atm.
[04:59] <eyequeue> frogz02, that still spits 400, oh well
[04:59] <frogz02> eyequeue: seems Royce has something similiar - the plot thickens
[05:00] <Royce> this is a live install
[05:00] <xored> intelikey: (hd0)   /dev/sda
[05:00] <eyequeue> frogz02, Royce and eyequeue can't go google, but Madpilot can, sigh
[05:00] <Royce> google works fine on this pc, same network
[05:00] <xored> intelikey: thats in my device.map now, after i did a grub-install sda
[05:00] <rambo3> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/root
[05:00] <slumbang> trying to apt-get install kde is 485 packages
[05:00] <intelikey> rambo3 every time you use sudo, you use the root account.
[05:01] <xored> intelikey: is that ok for grub installed on the MBR od the HDD sda ?
[05:01] <eyequeue> google.ca too :(  btw, i tried omitting the trailing slash on a whim, but it still fails
[05:01] <slumbang> the /etc/resolv.conf is b0rken?
[05:01] <intelikey> xored yes  /dev/sda   <--- that would be an scsi interface.
[05:01] <eyequeue> Royce, so you have multiple machines, some of which can hit google and some of which can't? what's unique about the omes that fail?  that they are ubuntu boxen? :(
[05:02] <xored> intelikey: yes and no. Its a SATA-IDE but this doesnt matter. so i try a reboot now, thank you
[05:02] <eyequeue> s/omes/ones/
[05:02] <Royce> unly this ubuntu box can't see google
[05:02] <Royce> *only
[05:02] <eyequeue> Royce, and only this ubuntu box can't hit google (though i don't have others here to try with, oh well)
[05:02] <Madpilot> Royce: you've got other computers there that can get thru? same net connection?
[05:02] <intelikey> xored or usb or sata   but each of those using the scsi interface layer
[05:03] <Royce> yes, same router
[05:03] <lucaas> what coomand can i use to see command network usage?
[05:03] <lucaas> not ifconfig
[05:04] <intelikey> nmap ?
[05:04] <eyequeue> okay, this is bizarre ... i DO have a not-current-woody machine here, fired it up, connected to it and IT CAN hit google okay with lynx :((((  JUST THE UBUNTU box can't hit google :(  and yes, samr net connection
[05:04] <Royce> im using breezy badger
[05:04] <eyequeue> Royce, so i guess we just confirmed it to be an UBUNTU problem :(
[05:05] <nutter426> i'm back :(
[05:05] <nutter426> i'm not even getting the password prompt at the moment
[05:05] <eyequeue> Royce, this (failing) box is also breezy
[05:05] <intelikey> fellas this pinguin can access google.com without error.  so it is a ub issue and not a network issue.
[05:06] <eyequeue> intelikey, though i'm not changing from ubuntu :) do you like pinquin?  i presume that's a distro
[05:06] <Royce> eyequeue: you live or installed?
[05:06] <eyequeue> Royce, installed
[05:06] <jgrieves> hello
[05:06] <eyequeue> Royce, you?
[05:06] <jgrieves> how do i convert UTC to local central time here in states?
[05:06] <Royce> eyequeue: live
[05:06] <Kyral> CST is UTC - 6 hours
[05:06] <eyequeue> jgrieves, i think CST (not CDT) is a 6 hour offset
[05:06] <bart_> it is..
[05:06] <intelikey> eyequeue 'pinguin' is a refferance to 'tux' the linux mascot.    pinguin = linux sysetm
[05:06] <jgrieves> so UTC 13:00
[05:07] <Kyral> becomes CST 7 AM
[05:07] <jgrieves> mmmk
[05:07] <Royce> eyequeue: playin with an old laptop, thought all the net didnt work cause i never try anything but google as a test
[05:07] <jgrieves> thanks
[05:07] <eyequeue> jgrieves, but if your box is set to UTC, type this command at console:  "TZ=CST6CDT date" (with that space in there) and it will print things in CST for that one command
[05:08] <eyequeue> Royce, lol, similar here, i consider google.com indicative of "the outside" almost anywhere i test :)
[05:08] <jgrieves> 10:08:05
[05:08] <jgrieves> sounds about right
[05:08] <qsrv> are there any other things (ones not mentioned in gnome's help) that I could do to improve the performance?
[05:08] <Kyral> Prelink
[05:08] <jgrieves> eyequeue thanks,
[05:08] <Kyral> !tell qsrv about prelink
[05:08] <jgrieves> eyequeue what is taht saysing 6 hours off?
[05:08] <eyequeue> Royce, oh, and not that it is a factor, but this is a laptop too ... any chance yours is wireless?
[05:08] <Kyral> ubotu tell qsrv about prelink
[05:09] <Kyral> ....where is hte bot?
[05:09] <Royce> eyequeue: it is but ubuntu didnt see the broadcom card, using wired
[05:09] <eyequeue> jgrieves, okay, consider UTC as being the time it is in london, england right now (but without any summer/winter time changes) ... that's about 6 hours from where you are locally now
[05:09] <intelikey> Kyral cafugo's server is off line atm.
[05:09] <Kyral> ah
[05:09] <jgrieves> gotcha
[05:09] <eyequeue> jgrieves, i'm in EST5EDT btw, so you're an hour from here
[05:09] <bart_> eg?
[05:10] <bart_> wrong
[05:10] <Royce> eyequeue: had the same issue yesterday as well on a nicer box, though i never tried any other sires i'm sure they worked
[05:10] <mistik1> Can one of you guys tell me what version of  the quota package is in the latest Ubuntu and maybe if it supports JFS?
[05:10] <eyequeue> Royce, okay, so the wireless aspect isn't the problem then, we at least know that
[05:10] <Royce> eyequeue: i cant believe theres any chance we stand alon
[05:11] <eyequeue> mistik1, Filename: pool/main/q/quota/quota_3.13-1_i386.deb
[05:11] <eyequeue> mistik1, not installed here, so i can't tell you about support/performance though, sorry
[05:11] <mistik1> thanks
[05:11] <stratovarius> hey all
[05:11] <stratovarius> who can help me to play midi files on ubuntu?
[05:12] <stratovarius> i wanna use kguitar but it says me
[05:12] <stratovarius> stratovarius ho installato kguitar ma mi da questo errore kguitar: cannot create MIDI Scheduler
[05:12] <stratovarius> stratovarius kguitar: ERROR opening MIDI device / Music can't be played
[05:12] <mistik1> eyequeue: I think that version supports JFS iirc
[05:12] <eyequeue> cool
[05:12] <intelikey> :)
[05:12] <stratovarius> kguitar: cannot create MIDI Scheduler kguitar: ERROR opening MIDI device / Music can't be played (sorry those are the errors)
[05:12] <mistik1> Is there a safe upgrade method from debian-3.1 to Ubuntu current?
[05:12] <mistik1> maybe some docs somewhere?
[05:13] <Kyral> mistik1: It would be interesting
[05:13] <intelikey> bbl
[05:13] <Royce> anybody else having google issues w/ breezy?
[05:13] <Kyral> the procedure is known, but its by no means foolproof
[05:13] <rambo3> you mean downgrade
[05:13] <Kyral> 3.1 is Sarge right?
[05:13] <eyequeue> Royce, so what i think we know so far:  this is a problem only with breezy badger, and this is something that happens with google.com, but not ubuntu.com ... not surprising that google has some non-boring aspects to their servers i guess
[05:13] <mistik1> yea
[05:13] <OneSeventeen> is it possible to use the Ubuntu Live CD to change the root password of another linux computer?
[05:14] <crankshaft> where's the ubotu? i haven't been here for a while...
[05:14] <crankshaft> need to get url for samba tutorial
[05:14] <Kyral> Breezy is just ahead of Sarge I think
[05:14] <Agrajag> OneSeventeen: yeah, just mount the root partition of the other system, chroot into it, and run passwd for root
[05:14] <stratovarius> does nobody here use kguitar?
[05:14] <Royce> eyequeue: i guess it would have to be a compatability issue on googles end, but I cant imagine them being incompatable w/ anything
[05:14] <mistik1> I keep running into issues with this debian install
[05:15] <mistik1> like needing quota support for JFS
[05:15] <nutter426> :'( this is such a pain in the ass
[05:15] <spola> Royce, tried deleting cookies/cache/... ?
[05:15] <XiCillin> anybody try ubuntu on amd64 x2?
[05:15] <eyequeue> mistik1, Kyral, i'm going to guess that installing things like the meta-package "ubuntu-desktop" might be a big factor in helping "most" of the gotchas in a debian->ubuntu transition
[05:15] <Kyral> eyequeue: it would be more like Debian still uses XFree86 and Ubuntu uses XOrg
[05:16] <Royce> spola: this is a live install, but what is the command, just for kicks
[05:16] <Kyral> so X will be removed and reinstalled
[05:16] <mistik1> X is of no consequence on this machine
[05:16] <nutter426> i can't get into synaptic at all
[05:16] <mistik1> Its a server not a desktop
[05:16] <Kyral> nevermidn then lol
[05:16] <eyequeue> Kyral, i'm hoping ubuntu-desktop has a dependency on the xorg stuff, but i'm no gui expert at all here
[05:16] <Kyral> ubuntu-desktop installs everything that a fresh install would
[05:17] <Royce> mail.google.com is also unreachable, but similarl pingable
[05:17] <spola> i had a problem with getting google to load (on FF) that went away after i deleted cookies n cache. if you can ping google i'd try that first (not sure how to do it in lynx tho)
[05:17] <sadap> ups,
[05:17] <jgrieves> Royce have u tried with another computer?  i have that problem with my router sometimes
[05:17] <jgrieves> Royce usually w/ wireless card
[05:17] <sadap> any one speak spanish
[05:18] <mistik1> eyequeue: BTW, I have to do all this on a machine 1000 miles away :)
[05:18] <eyequeue> Royce, i've not tried gmail via lynx, i think that requires javascript, doesn't it?  (my firefox is hosed here, but thunderbird is the way i usually interact with gmail)
[05:18] <Kyral> sadap: #ubuntu-es
[05:18] <sadap> tanks, is obiusly
[05:19] <OneSeventeen> Agrajag: do I just create a directory, type mount /root /newfolder, then how do I chroot into it?
[05:19] <eyequeue> mistik1, heh, been there don't that, AND been bitten :)  if ever you upgrade sshd, ssh OUT, then back IN, before dropping your current connection :)  that's the only tidbit of advice i'd offer
[05:19] <spola> hehe ... ajax on lynx, *good luck*
[05:19] <mistik1> eyequeue: Oh for sure
[05:19] <XiCillin> breezy badger has SMP right?
[05:19] <Royce> jgrieves: yes, other pc's on the same router have no issue, other pc's with this install develop them
[05:19] <Kyral> XiCillin: yell
[05:19] <Kyral> err
[05:19] <Kyral> yes even :P
[05:20] <eyequeue> spola, is gmail and google on ajax?  is that perhaps why we can't get to it from breezy?  (trying to determine the causative factor)
[05:20] <Kyral> you have to install the kernel package
[05:20] <jgrieves> Royce mmmk :) is one wireless and hte other wired?
[05:20] <XiCillin> cool thanks i'm getting the amd64 x2 4800+
[05:20] <Kyral> linux-686-smp or linux-k7-smp
[05:20] <vbgunz> Anybody have any idea why I cannot update my Thunderbird plugins?
[05:20] <xslf> OneSeventeen: chroot /newfolder
[05:20] <Royce> spola: cleared the cache and cookies, no luck
[05:20] <spola> gmail yes, google search no
[05:20] <jgrieves> Royce just out of curioucity
[05:20] <XiCillin> needed ubuntu to wokr
[05:20] <Kyral> XiCillin: Eh I dunno if SMP is on 64 bit
[05:20] <Kyral> it will work mind you
[05:20] <Royce> jgrieves: wired, live didnt recognise the wireless in here
[05:20] <eyequeue> jgrieves, my "bad" google-connector is wireless, but his is wired
[05:20] <Kyral> but SMP won't be fully utilizied
[05:21] <Kyral> any 64bit guys wanna help me :P
[05:21] <jgrieves> eyequeue was talking to Royce, not sure what you're refering to :)
[05:21] <XiCillin> kyral, waht? so your saying ubuntu will be 64 bit on my amd but it wont use smp?
[05:21] <Royce> jgrieves: we are having identical issues
[05:21] <jgrieves> Royce ok, sorry, your proble is one i have wiht my netgear router a lot
[05:21] <Kyral> XiCillin: if there isn't a SMP kernel
[05:21] <Kyral> I think there is
[05:21] <joe_> hello all
[05:21] <Kyral> but I'm not 100% sure
[05:21] <eyequeue> Royce, btw, my ipw2200 wireless (centrino) was sensed fine with livecd here, after you get things working for you, please consider writing up a bug report about your wireless/livecd troubles, so it can be fixed for future releases :)
[05:21] <Agrajag> OneSeventeen: chroot /mnt/whatever /bin/bash (as root)
[05:21] <jgrieves> Royce i can ping anything, no http connections though
[05:21] <Stonekeeper> hi. Has anyone ever experienced the sound slowing down? All the desktop stuff now plays at half the speed!!! How can I fix this?
[05:22] <Royce> jgrieves: my router is an actiontech, all other sites seem to werk
[05:22] <Kyral> you could always roll your own
[05:22] <jgrieves> Royce sounds like that is not your problem thourgh
[05:22] <Kyral> which is fun actually :D
[05:22] <OneSeventeen> Agrajag: is there a default root password for the live CD?
[05:22] <Stonekeeper> Stuff played through a browser is oj
[05:22] <eyequeue> jgrieves, Royce and i are the two here that are getting errors from google only with ubuntu :)
[05:22] <Stonekeeper> ok
[05:22] <jgrieves> eyequeue gotcha :)
[05:22] <jgrieves> eyequeue everything else runs fine?
[05:22] <spola> rolling your own kernel is easy ... start with a stock kernel and keep removing things untill it no longer boots :p (make sure to keep a stock kernel in grub tho)
[05:22] <eyequeue> jgrieves, well, others told me it was google's problem not mine, but it seems Royce and i have it *ony* with ubuntu boxen on our lans, not with non-ubuntu
[05:23] <Kyral> spola: LOL
[05:23] <Agrajag> OneSeventeen: no, there's no password for the ubuntu account and it has full sudo priveleges I think
[05:23] <Manu> hi
[05:23] <Kyral> Its true though lol
[05:23] <xslf> OneSeventeen: no. root is disabled. To open a root session, type sudo su
[05:23] <Manu> any german here?
[05:23] <tanner> hello
[05:23] <OneSeventeen> xslf: thanks
[05:23] <Seveas> xslf, eek
[05:23] <Manu> need some help ;)
[05:23] <Seveas> sudo -i
[05:23] <Kyral> Manu: #ubuntu-de I THINK
[05:23] <Seveas> not sudo su
[05:23] <OneSeventeen> Agrajag: cool, just noticed that
[05:23] <tanner> waassssup
[05:23] <Stonekeeper> can i change the sound settings or do i need to re-install?!?!
[05:23] <eyequeue> jgrieves, well, my firefox is hosed, but that *is* a local issue :)  but i can connect fine to ubuntu.com with lynx, but google.com gives me a 400 error
[05:23] <spola> also, disable loadable module support and compile everything in
[05:23] <Royce> i guess i can live w/o google, but itll be hard
[05:24] <Kyral> spola: lol I did that
[05:24] <Kyral> before
[05:24] <jgrieves> eyequeue have u tried tracert?
[05:24] <xslf> Seveas: eek?
[05:24] <spola> Royce, try scroogle :p
[05:24] <eyequeue> xslf, OneSeventeen, "sudo -s" to get a root session in ubuntu, typically
[05:24] <Agrajag> OneSeventeen: then if you chroot while root, you retain full root privielges on the other system and should be able to run passwd and change root's password without knowing what it is currently
[05:24] <Manu> cool thaks
[05:24] <spola> http://www.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/scraper.htm
[05:24] <Kyral> then for some reason auto loading for the NVidia Module died
[05:24] <jgrieves> tracepath rather
[05:24] <jasmuz> Guys im trying to setup Amarok in Ubuntu under GNOME, and it says it didnt find the proper sound server, even i installed amarok-aRTS
[05:24] <FlimFlamMan> i have a dell inspiron 4000 notebook with windows xp on it.  is it possible to install ubuntu dual-boot on this machine?  i will be using this to do a presentation on ubuntu at work.
[05:24] <eyequeue> jgrieves, traceroute?  i get a 400 error back, so i presume i get through to the site
[05:24] <OneSeventeen> so how do I mount /root from the hard drive to the temporary filesystem?  I created a folder /mnt/tr/ now I want to mount /root from /hda  to /mnt/tr ?
[05:24] <Kyral> You need the ESD/ALSA plugin
[05:24] <Kyral> FlimFlamMan: yes
[05:24] <jgrieves> oh a 400
[05:25] <jgrieves> firefox or lynx?
[05:25] <spola> Kyral, lol @ "for some reason"
[05:25] <tanner> hello
[05:25] <Agrajag> OneSeventeen: what partition is / on?
[05:25] <FlimFlamMan> Kyral, how do i repartition without losing the existing OS?
[05:25] <jgrieves> oh
[05:25] <jgrieves> firefox hosed
[05:25] <OneSeventeen> Agrajag: not positive, is there a way I can view my partition table?
[05:25] <Agrajag> if it's hda1, you'd mount mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/tr
[05:25] <Kyral> FlimFlamMan: shrink the NTFS partition using PartitionMagic or GParted on the LiveCD
[05:25] <Royce> spola: joke or not a .com?
[05:25] <xslf> OneSeventeen: sudo fdisk -l
[05:25] <eyequeue> jgrieves, running tracepath now, btw, what is it, it's new to me :)
[05:25] <Kyral> but there is always a risk
[05:25] <Agrajag> OneSeventeen: uh, fdisk -l /dev/hda I think
[05:25] <Kyral> with partitioning
[05:26] <jgrieves> traces path to a network host discovering MTU
[05:26] <jgrieves>        along this path
[05:26] <Kyral> so I can't tell you 100% that nothing will FUBAR
[05:26] <spola> Royce, its made by peeps who are terrified google might be tracking them but it returns the same results so ...
[05:26] <FlimFlamMan> Kyral, thanks
[05:26] <eyequeue> jgrieves, the pertinent 2 lines seem to be:  9:  so-3-0-0--0.er01.asbn.eli.net (207.173.115.110)      asymm 10 122.632ms
[05:26] <eyequeue> 10:  no reply
[05:26] <jgrieves> eyequeue u should get to around 17 with google
[05:26] <Kyral> Just SHRINK NTFS
[05:26] <Kyral> don't move/delete it
[05:26] <Royce> scroogle werks just fine
[05:26] <eyequeue> jgrieves, implying that at the distant border of eli.net it falls off the face of the net?
[05:27] <joe_> Can someone help?  Sound plays fine, but Rythymbox says all my mp3 files aren't valid audio streams, but they played fine in Winhoes.
[05:27] <OneSeventeen> I would guess / is on hda6
[05:27] <jgrieves> eyequeue yeah remember the world si flat
[05:27] <jgrieves> eyequeue one sec let me try with lynx
[05:27] <Agrajag> ok so mount /dev/hda6 /mnt/tr
[05:27] <Agrajag> and see if that's it, and if so chroot /mnt/tr /bin/bash
[05:27] <eyequeue> jgrieves, here's the 2 pertinent lines from traceroute, not tracepath, btw:  7  ge-1-0-0--0.er01.chcg.eli.net (207.173.115.138)  68.188 ms  67.787 ms  67.978 ms
[05:27] <eyequeue>  8  core1-2-2-0.ord.net.google.com (206.223.119.21)  68.123 ms  68.642 ms  69.056 ms
[05:27] <jgrieves> eyequeue i get 400 too :)
[05:27] <Royce> eyequeue: i havent been watching your conversation, any developments?
[05:28] <spola> joe_, installed support for mp3's yet? if not go google it
[05:28] <jgrieves> Alert!: HTTP/1.0 400 Bad Request
[05:28] <jgrieves> does lynx support java script ?
[05:28] <eyequeue> jgrieves, meaning traceroute goes past eli to google, and tracepath stops after eli.net
[05:28] <OneSeventeen> Agrajag: thanks!
[05:28] <Kyral> joe_: Beep Media Player supports MP3s out of tthe box
[05:28] <jgrieves> eyequeue probably just firewalls on googles end
[05:28] <eyequeue> Royce, nothing that seems to be a cure yet, but tracepath doesn't hit google whereas traceroute does, if that's of interest
[05:28] <joe_> you mean it doesn't come with it?  What sort of simple user friendly of that?  Thanks.
[05:29] <RockyBurt> i'm sure this has been asked a million times, but does anyone have a firefox 1.5 deb available?
[05:29] <jgrieves> eyequeue I tried with lynx and am getting 400's
[05:29] <spola> thats the one thing i hate about ubuntu its their retarded view on non-free formats ... if Suse can do it out of the box, so should ubuntu
[05:29] <PerryJr> hello
[05:29] <eyequeue> RockyBurt, lol, i'd suggest googling for it, but ... no google working, heh
[05:29] <zdh> hi all
[05:29] <PerryJr> dootoodoo
[05:29] <jgrieves> eyequeue but works fine with firefox
[05:29] <Agrajag> spola: Suse costs money for a reason
[05:29] <spola> eyequeue, then scroogle.org it!
[05:29] <RockyBurt> eyequeue: i've been googling all morning (google.ca) in fact
[05:29] <nutter426> i can't do any admin stuff :(
[05:29] <Kyral> spola: read the RestrictedFormats wikipage for the explination
[05:29] <tanner> hey
[05:29] <PerryJr> hey tanner
[05:29] <PerryJr> wassup
[05:29] <tanner> perry
[05:29] <xslf> eyequeue: he can use other search engines :-)
[05:30] <jgrieves> eyequeue doesn't google use javascript on main page?
[05:30] <tanner> wassssuuuppppp
[05:30] <PerryJr> hey alexis
[05:30] <alexisc> hello
[05:30] <tanner> lexis
[05:30] <alexisc> tanner
[05:30] <monicam> heey
[05:30] <eyequeue> jgrieves, well, iirc, your firefox-> google doesn't really go to google.com, does it?  doesn't it append some "hey, i'm special, i'm firefox" stuff to the url?  a modrewrite on the client end heh
[05:30] <tanner> thats wat ur new name is.... lexis
[05:30] <RockyBurt> i found the ubuntu wiki page describing how to setup firefox 1.5 with a link to building a deb, but resulting deb doesn't install ...
[05:30] <alexisc> ok sounds good
[05:31] <tanner> pfff
[05:31] <spola> yeah i read it .... maybe someone should build guerilla-ubuntu n distribute thru the warez scene
[05:31] <monicam> i love ligers :>
[05:31] <Kyral> There will never be an official package
[05:31] <jgrieves> eyequeue yeah seems to be fine though, www.google.com works fine over here on firefox, not on lynx
[05:31] <eyequeue> jgrieves, i've used lynx with google for years, not sure ... but the no-gui-for-me package "surfraw" has a google method that it seems to think works with lynx  (and experience with it has always been fine)
[05:31] <pierro> will firefox 1.5 be in the official breezy depot ?
[05:31] <Agrajag> pierro: no
[05:32] <topyli> RockyBurt: i found things pretty easy when i just installed it in /opt and used the diversion
[05:32] <pierro> ok.
[05:32] <jgrieves> eyequeue *shrugs*
[05:32] <Royce> does kubuntu have a live distro, ii could try konqueror then
[05:32] <Agrajag> It'll be in dapper though
[05:32] <RockyBurt> topyli: yeah, i may end up going that route, but i hate installing non-deb stuff :/
[05:32] <eyequeue> RockyBurt, "won't install"?  maybe we can help with that part.  what errors?
[05:32] <jgrieves> eyequeue default install of my lynx gave sthe same 400
[05:32] <Kyral> Royce: yes
[05:32] <jgrieves> eyequeue didn't they recently change their search page to be personalized?  go directly to google.com/ig
[05:32] <nutter426> i get the password entry box, and thats it
[05:32] <_jason> jgrieves, I had that problem too, a google search gave me this but I haven't tried it yet: http://tux.oclug.on.ca/pipermail/oclug/2004-May/038971.html
[05:32] <eyequeue> pierro, dapper is breezy's successor, expect to see 1.5 or later in dapper
[05:33] <nutter426> noone had any experience of system admin stuff failing to load then?
[05:33] <RockyBurt> eyequeue: its a messed up deb problem (i know a little about building debs) ... the exact error is, "mv: cannot stat `/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/defaults.ini': No such file or directory"
[05:33] <jgrieves> _jason ok forwarding to eyequeue
[05:33] <Kyral> Dapper don't use right now
[05:33] <topyli> RockyBurt: i agree, but the diversion helps a little (dpkg will think firefox is installed)
[05:33] <nutter426> when will dapper be out?
[05:33] <Kyral> still in devel
[05:33] <jgrieves> eyequeue may i suggest http://tux.oclug.on.ca/pipermail/oclug/2004-May/038971.html
[05:33] <jgrieves> :)
[05:33] <Kyral> April 2006
[05:33] <Kyral> FF 1.5 will most likely be backported
[05:33] <RockyBurt> is dapper ready enough for those on the bleeding edge to be able to use it? or is it far too unstable ?
[05:33] <_jason> jgrieves, sure, wasn't really following the conversation :)
[05:33] <eyequeue> jgrieves, both ig and ig/ give me 400s as well here
[05:34] <Ng> RockyBurt: if you need to ask, the answer is no ;)
[05:34] <jgrieves> RockyBurt no, kernel is bust and xorg is still fighting to stay alive
[05:34] <RockyBurt> lol
[05:34] <Kyral> RockyBurt: if you are ready to handle things randomly breaking then go for it
[05:34] <jgrieves> eyequeue *shrugs* that page might help if it opens in lynx :)
[05:34] <topyli> RockyBurt: we just heard today from someone who installed it that it's broken and doesn't go online :)
[05:34] <nutter426> FF 1.5 is fine on windoze, i've been using it since beta, and i'm now on RC2
[05:34] <FlimFlamMan> this laptop is a PIII 500 with 256MB.  will it run ubuntu acceptably?
[05:34] <RockyBurt> i used to run debian unstable for several years (i never ran a single stable debian version)... was able to cope with the occassional breakage
[05:34] <topyli> RockyBurt: might be fixed tomoroow of course :)
[05:35] <Chousuke> FlimFlamMan: depends what you call acceptable. :)
[05:35] <Chousuke> +on
[05:35] <jgrieves> topyli network thing isn't to hard to fix
[05:35] <selinium> FlimFlamMan, yes but I would consider xubuntu
[05:35] <Chousuke> FlimFlamMan: it has enough RAM to run GNOME
[05:35] <jgrieves> topyli with transfer over to xorg a lot of mice work broken :)
[05:35] <slumbang> how do i search the packages to find a specific file i'm looking for
[05:35] <jgrieves> topyli xorg 7 that is
[05:35] <topyli> RockyBurt: ubuntu's development versions are more like experimental than unstable
[05:35] <FlimFlamMan> Chousuke, at a level of performance that you'd want to present to people that haven't really used linux/ubuntu before  :-)
[05:35] <Chousuke> FlimFlamMan: but as selinium said, consider cubuntu :)
[05:35] <Chousuke> xubuntu*
[05:35] <RockyBurt> topyli: more liking debian 'testing' perhaps? i always found that a tad bit too unstable ;)
[05:35] <jgrieves> topyli i have to say i a ma big fan of the new splash screen, i laughed for a long time
[05:36] <xslf> FlimFlamMan: Althugh it can run Gnome, I would use XFCE on such a laptop
[05:36] <eyequeue> jgrieves, it seems the summary of that is "the box has too many apps on it"?
[05:36] <khalif> Hey guys, great new: I saved a bunce of money by switching to geiko!
[05:36] <selinium> .msg ubotu xubuntu
[05:36] <Kyral> .....
[05:36] <selinium> msg ubotu xubuntu
[05:36] <Kyral> Ubotu isn't here right now
[05:36] <rambo3> fluxbox
[05:36] <jgrieves> eyequeue __jason pointed that out
[05:36] <khalif> Nah, i finally got my USB flash drive to work!
[05:36] <selinium> arghh
[05:36] <khalif> :)
[05:36] <eyequeue> jgrieves, i do note this is a RECENT breakage with lynx, so i hope that google undoes whatever insanity they recently did :(
[05:36] <jgrieves> eyequeue i am not quite sure what to tell you except to google :)
[05:37] <topyli> jgrieves: i'll upgrade after gnome releases 2.14, not before :)
[05:37] <eyequeue> jgrieves, lol
[05:37] <jgrieves> topyli  good call :)
[05:37] <topyli> selinium: use / to give irc commands :)
[05:37] <pierro> is there a firefox 1.5 package for ubuntu breezy yet (backport) ?
[05:37] <robotgeek> !firefox1.5
[05:37] <khalif> I have another problem now. I'm trying to compile a cvs file and I got an error that says I need autoconf.pl 2.53 or newer
[05:38] <eyequeue> Royce,  http://tux.oclug.on.ca/pipermail/oclug/2004-May/038971.html ... *if* your problem was using lynx ... if it was using firefox, please let me know
[05:38] <Kyral> robotgeek: No Bot :P
[05:38] <topyli> jgrieves: yeah, that's what i did before and all was well. the ubuntu preview releases on the same day
[05:38] <jgrieves> no obutu
[05:38] <_jason> ubotu is gone, search the forums pierro you will find a sticky about the firefox backport
[05:38] <robotgeek> Kyral: ugghh, where's cafeugo
[05:38] <nutter426> this is driving me crazy :'(
[05:38] <Royce> i hope goole fixes whatever this issue is, thanx for the help guys, if its still down in a few then i'll be back askin the same questions,  again thanx
[05:38] <topyli> jgrieves: might have something to do with "some" notorious gnome people on the ubuntu team :)
[05:38] <jgrieves> Royce good luck
[05:38] <robotgeek> pierro: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[05:38] <eyequeue> Royce, agreed, if google changed something, they'd better revert
[05:38] <khalif> I checked the branches on www.kde.org and the last autoconf file that the have was made like two months ago.
[05:38] <Royce> eyequeue: i was tryin firefox
[05:39] <jgrieves> topyli haha most likely
[05:39] <eyequeue> Royce, okay cool then, you had the problem in firefox, not in lynx, so this is something else
[05:39] <Royce> is lynx even installed by default, i tried it but couldnt find it
[05:39] <khalif> Is there a way that I can find a newer version of that file?
[05:39] <jgrieves> Royce no, apt-get install lynx
[05:39] <eyequeue> come to think of it lynx ON WOODY does connect lust fine to google :(
[05:39] <pierro> thanks guyz
[05:40] <eyequeue> so this isn't specifically a lynx/google issue, this is a breezy/google issue, as far as i can see so far
[05:40] <_jason> eyequeue, possible a lynx in breezy issue?
[05:40] <eyequeue> i just wish it were happenening to all breezy users, so it would be easier to diagnose
[05:41] <Kyral> eyequeue: thats mean
[05:41] <Holly> Hi
[05:41] <Holly> jemand hier der deutsch spricht?
[05:41] <eyequeue> _jason, no, unfortunately.  Royce had that problem with breezy and firefox
[05:41] <deFrysk> !de
[05:41] <deFrysk> shit
[05:41] <Kyral> Holly: #ubuntu-de
[05:41] <eyequeue> Kyral, nah, just looking for clarity, not looking to harm breezy users :)
[05:41] <FlimFlamMan> Kyral, is gparted on the breezy installer cd?
[05:41] <deFrysk> Holly, try /j #ubuntu-de
[05:42] <rambo3> lynx http://www.google.com -> Warning!: HTTP/1.0 400 Bad Request
[05:42] <Kyral> FlimFlamMan: LiveCD
[05:42] <FlimFlamMan> ok
[05:42] <nutter426> is it possible a reinstall of breezy would allow me to get into the admin stuff on the system menu?
[05:42] <RockyBurt> wow, firefox 1.5 on ubuntu is  waaaay faster than standard ubuntu firefox
[05:42] <_jason> eyequeue, I'm gonna try the suggestion in that link about having too many programs listed in some file for lynx... I bet that resolves it
[05:42] <RockyBurt> perhaps its because of not as many extensions installed
[05:42] <Kyral> Epiphany > Firefox ;P
[05:43] <Shadowline> wow, theres a linux driver for the Airport Extreme out now!!
[05:43] <deFrysk> RockyBurt, 1.5 is faster, period
[05:43] <Kyral> Deer Park > Epiphany > Firefox ;P
[05:43] <deFrysk> RockyBurt, also in dapper the firebird is faster
[05:44] <eyequeue> _jason, if you do manage to get a change from broken to working, can you file the bug whereever you think best?  lynx?  (i think it's a google thing myself, but they'd be more likely to listen to "ubuntu" than me, plus that, i go in the hospital tomorrow
[05:44] <XiCillin> kyral, i looked around but i didn't see anything that said ubuntu doesn't have SMP on 64-bit
[05:44] <XiCillin> hopefully they do anybody know?
[05:45] <Kyral> XiCillin: packages.ubuntu.com and search for SMP in the AMD64 arch
[05:45] <XiCillin> alrgithy
[05:45] <phiqtion> nalioth: busy?
[05:45] <Kyral> I can't search because I'm using x86 and don't have access to the AMD64 repos
[05:46] <_jason> eyequeue, I'll do that, I have class right now but later tonight I'll try this
[05:46] <_jason> eyequeue, hospital D:  hope you feel better
[05:46] <eyequeue> now, after all this, how do imanage to recall *why* i was trying to look something up on google anyway?  what was i trying to fix before this google-breakage distracted me, lol
[05:47] <XiCillin> kyral: kernel-headers-2.6.11-9-amd64-k8-smp :-)
[05:47] <eyequeue> _jason, thanks man, and good luck in class :)
[05:47] <XiCillin> they do SWEET!
[05:48] <gi2k15> How can I see kernel's version?
[05:49] <roberto_> Good morning, how to i make myself root in ubuntu? su doesn't seem to be working by default
[05:49] <holycow> uname -a
[05:49] <deFrysk> uname -r
[05:49] <gi2k15> Thnaks
[05:49] <_native_> roberto_; sudo
[05:49] <phiqtion> how can i install azureus in ubuntu?
[05:50] <roberto_> thanks _native_
[05:50] <MoonRanger> i go to System --> Administration --> Synaptic Package Manager and i get this error E: Malformed line 35 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[05:50] <MoonRanger> says go to Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem. .. then i am lost
[05:50] <Kyral> MoonRanger: look at line 35
[05:50] <_native_> MoonRanger; check your sources.list against a correct file
[05:51] <_native_> a correct example can be found @
[05:51] <MoonRanger> in the repository area of the package manager
[05:51] <_native_> shoot i forgot the url
[05:52] <MoonRanger> im a complete newbie when it comes to ubuntu and linux
[05:52] <_native_> MoonRanger; no goto the terminal applications>accesories>terminal then type:   cd /etc/apt && less sources.list
[05:52] <ravi_> how to install graphics drivers for "S3 unichrome II" ??
[05:53] <phyburn> on IDE cables does it matter witch sides goes where
[05:53] <MoonRanger> is thier a way to just replace that file
[05:53] <phyburn> because on my IDE cables have a blue end and a black end any one know if it matters
[05:53] <ravi_>  how to install graphics drivers for "S3 unichrome II" ??
[05:54] <_native_> MoonRanger; yes you need a correct file but i dont remomber the link to it
[05:54] <MoonRanger> would it be on the ubuntu cd ..
[05:54] <ravi_> how to install graphics drivers for "S3 unichrome II" ??
[05:56] <_native_> MoonRanger; uhh :p yeah probably.
[05:56] <MoonRanger> ok ..
[05:57] <NiLz> hi, what font package do I need to install to get the font "Fixed" + windows fonts (Arial etc) working in breezy?
[05:57] <Kyral> mstcorefonts I believe
[05:57] <linuxgeek79> !fonts
[05:57] <Kyral> No bot
[05:57] <ravi_> how to install graphics drivers for "S3 unichrome II" ??
[05:57] <linuxgeek79> oh
[05:57] <ravi_> how to install graphics drivers for "S3 unichrome II" ??
[05:57] <linuxgeek79> hmmmmmmmmm
[05:57] <linuxgeek79> help
[05:58] <linuxgeek79> how do I install ttf fonts
[05:58] <ravi_>  how to install graphics drivers for "S3 unichrome II" ??
[05:58] <Madpilot> linuxgeek79: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[05:59] <linuxgeek79> thanks Madpilot
[05:59] <passkillr> hi
[06:00] <passkillr> does anyone have an idea
[06:00] <passkillr> about getting gnome 2.12 on
[06:00] <bedwards> What is the new theme manager in breezy?
[06:00] <passkillr> sarge
[06:00] <Kyral> passkillr: try #debian
[06:01] <MoonRanger> now i got that working .. thanks ..
[06:02] <MoonRanger> i have another question .. where do i find either oidentd or pidentd in 5.10
[06:03] <Mitja> Which player supports Intel Video 3.2 (iv32) codec?
[06:03] <chrisx1> yer i wanted u to
[06:03] <chrisx1> ops
[06:04] <chrisx1> hey any ideas of touchscreens?
[06:04] <xor> Does firefox crash for anyone else when totem tries to watch quicktime videos?
[06:04] <xor> Under Ubuntu.
[06:04] <bedwards> Is there a new theme / art manager in breezy that connects to art.gnome.org in the background?
[06:05] <bedwards> I was just looking at touch screens myself (just briefly), I don't have any good advise, but would be interested to see Ubuntu on touch.
[06:05] <deFrysk> bedwards, try  apt-get install gnome-art
[06:05] <chrisx1> i have some drivers
[06:05] <chrisx1> that work with most
[06:05] <chrisx1> but hard to install
[06:06] <ravi_>  how to install graphics drivers for "S3 unichrome II" ??
[06:06] <chrisx1> bedwards, try on elotouch.com
[06:06] <ravi_>  how to install graphics drivers for "S3 unichrome II" ??
[06:06] <deFrysk> xor doe you have w32codecs installed ?
[06:06] <ravi_>  how to install graphics drivers for "S3 unichrome II" ??
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> google issue? ive not noticed any.
[06:07] <chrisx1> ravi_, dont flood
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> ravi_,  when in doubt.. go check the forums first.
[06:07] <chrisx1> :o
[06:07] <chrisx1> lolz
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> ravi_,  when in doubt.. go check the wiki first, forums second. :P
[06:07] <chrisx1> FOrums!:P
[06:08] <vir> hiya!
[06:08] <wolki> hi!
[06:08] <vir> how to get this *beep* (pcspkr) quiter?
[06:09] <phyburn> im getting I/O errors when im partitioning any ideas
[06:09] <mali_> dani???
[06:10] <bittercold> somebody from catalonia?
[06:11] <deFrysk> bittercold, spanish ?
[06:11] <wolki> I just got a friend of mine who has a problem connecting to the internet. He has wireless disabled, and turned off hardware-side, but it doesn't seem to accept setting the standard gateway to eth0 (which is, of course, activated). Dioes someone have an idea, and how can we set this from the command line? oh, it worked fine for weeks, the problem had occurred once already but then it was fixed by rebooting, which doesn't help anymore.
[06:11] <bittercold> yes
[06:11] <ompaul> !es
[06:12] <FlimFlamMan> is it possible to scan a cd to make sure all files on it are readable?
[06:12] <deFrysk> bittercold, try /j #ubuntu-es
[06:12] <ompaul> but then es = equal catalan
[06:12] <deFrysk> ompaul, its likely more catalans are in -es
[06:12] <wolki> any ideas would be very appreciated... I know next to nothing about laptops and wireless, can't afford it ^^;;
[06:12] <deFrysk> or is it catalanians ?
[06:12] <ompaul> catalonians
[06:12] <bittercold> thanks deFrysk
[06:13] <deFrysk> bittercold, yw ;)
[06:13] <wolki> FlimFlamMan: tried just copying it to the hdd?
[06:13] <deFrysk> wen will the bot be back ?
[06:14] <Amaranth> deFrysk: Both the bot and its owner are MIA.
[06:14] <deFrysk> MIA = ?
[06:14] <spola> missin in action
[06:14] <ompaul> missing in action
[06:14] <deFrysk> i see
[06:14] <deFrysk> *dutch
[06:15] <ompaul> deFrysk, getting confused about where you are from? ;-)
[06:15] <deFrysk> ompaul, lol
[06:15] <FlimFlamMan> i'm having this problem - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=82017  -  booting livecd dies when trying to retrieve libc6-udeb.  is there a fix?
[06:15] <Luixs> como me cambio a ubuntu en espao?
[06:15] <Luixs> a el irc de espaol??
[06:15] <deFrysk> ompaul, great , thanks :)
[06:15] <ompaul> !es
[06:16] <deFrysk> Luixs, try /j #ubuntu-es
[06:16] <Luixs> #ubuntu es
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> #ubuntu-es
[06:16] <Luixs> thanks
[06:16] <ompaul> Luixs, >>>>>/join #ubuntu-es<<<<
[06:16] <DrBair> situation... I'm behind an evil firewall that lets NO traffic out of the network.  The only way out (that I know of) is through an unauthenticated proxy that allows http, https, and ftp traffic. Any idea how I might ssh outside of the network?
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> :) and perhaps get fired? :P
[06:17] <xerxes1358> Hi
[06:17] <xerxes1358> he does ubuntu has a FDISK tool during the install ?
[06:17] <DrBair> Dr_Willis:  shhhh!
[06:17] <spola> DrBair, use an ajax terminal ? except this will probably not encrypt the data you send to the website
[06:17] <DrBair> don't tell anyone
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> DrBair,  a ssh tunnle perhaps. tht seems to be the answer for most things :P
[06:17] <wolki> so, if we "ifconfig eth0 up", would that activate it as the gateway (if nothing else is connected)?
[06:18] <khalif> What does the ln command mean?
[06:18] <DrBair> unfortunately all the ports are locked off, so I can't ssh tunnel
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> khalif,  'link'
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> DrBair,  set up the tunnle on the ftp port ?
[06:18] <_native_> what are you guys talking about?
[06:18] <_native_> ajax? encryption?
[06:19] <DrBair> spola:  know of any web apps that would do that?
[06:19] <_native_> mesa likes
[06:19] <khalif> wha if there is -s afte ln?
[06:19] <freelove> im having tons of problems! can i make hda5 to hda1 and hda1 to hda5? i want to install 98
[06:19] <ompaul> Dr_Willis,  I can't tell you that if your ssh box ran on port 80 as opposed to ohh 22 and then you went ssh far box you could loose your job
[06:19] <wolki> khalif: makes a symbolic link
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> khalif,  try 'man ls' and read all about it.
[06:19] <phiqtion> is there a tutorial for cedega in ubuntu?
[06:19] <freelove> to d: and not c:.........plz help me!!
[06:19] <freelove> [22:43]  <freelove> otherwise my bro will format my linux partition!
[06:19] <spola> DrBair, well it all depends on how much you trust the website :-) but yeah if you google you'll find tuns
[06:19] <ravi_> reg " how to install graphics drivers for "S3 unichrome II" ??" could not get frm the links specified in the forums
[06:19] <DrBair> Dr_Willis:  ftp goes through the proxy like everything else
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> ompaul,  geting where companies are getting more paranoid about everything ese days. :P
[06:20] <DrBair> spola:  I'll just run it off my webserver
[06:20] <ompaul> Dr_Willis, it might not be a good idea at all
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> ompaul,  i agree.. :P
[06:20] <fdr> hello! could you please tell me whether I am supposed to file bugs on bugzilla or launchpad? thank you!
[06:20] <phiqtion> is there a tutorial for cedega in ubuntu?
[06:20] <ravi_> how to install graphics drivers for "S3 unichrome II" ??
[06:20] <spola> there are also some java applets that allow for that, but note that if they do traffic analys you're probably fired
[06:20] <freelove> someone plz help me:(
[06:20] <ravi_> how to install graphics drivers for "S3 unichrome II" ??
[06:20] <deFrysk> phiqtion, no
[06:21] <freelove> i'll lose kubuntu!
[06:21] <ompaul> Dr_Willis, actually I would most likely try the https port cos they do not expect to do that
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> phiqtion,  you mean how to install the cedega-cvs ? - i think thers a wilki page for that.
[06:21] <_native_> someone help ravi_
[06:21] <thefish> freelove: change the drives around and change jumpers
[06:21] <FlimFlamMan> how can i definitively ensure that the integrity of my ubuntu install has not been compromised?  the ISO md5 checksum matches, but running a CD integrity check tells me the MD5sum of "cdrom-core-modules" fails.
[06:21] <ompaul> Dr_Willis, but actually do nothing cos I like getting paid at the end of the week
[06:21] <_native_> ravi_; stop asking so many times
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> _native_,  if he would actually give some details he may get some help. :P
[06:21] <thefish> hda1 is always the first partition on the primary master
[06:21] <freelove> thefish: how to do that? im n00b......
[06:21] <spola> and if you run your own server, dont bother about encrypting the data you send to it over ajax, just use https :p
[06:21] <thefish> why do you want to change them freelove
[06:21] <_native_> Dr_Willis; true
[06:21] <phiqtion> Dr_Willis: yes, where @?
[06:22] <nalioth> phiqtion: did you get sorted?
[06:22] <freelove> thefish: coz i wanna install 98 to d: not c:
[06:22] <freelove> win98 i mean
[06:22] <phiqtion> nalioth: BRO!!!! i have missed u dude. im trying to get into gaming on linux. any info?
[06:22] <deFrysk> 98 only installes to c I believe
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> phiqtion,   search the ubuntu wikis for it. I bought cedega. :P
[06:22] <thefish> freelove: it does not matter
[06:22] <DrBair> spola:  probably can't forward ports over a ssh applet though
[06:22] <DrBair> but better than nothing
[06:22] <freelove> thefish: windows aint booting with grub.......
[06:22] <deFrysk> Dr_Willis, dont we all :)
[06:22] <thefish> freelove: maybe you can change the disk that your mobo boots to, change boot order in bios
[06:22] <phiqtion> Dr_Willis: sure you did
[06:22] <hostix> Hey
[06:23] <thefish> freelove: then grub is misconfigured
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> phiqtion,  yep.. and to be honest - it sort of sucks :P every game i try has some issues.
[06:23] <robzon> hi all
[06:23] <freelove> thefish: ive tried everything....reinstalling grub zillion times but it doesnt work,.......
[06:23] <nalioth> phiqtion: cedega -cvs
[06:23] <Dkelly> can anyone help a new linux user?  have some trouble figuring out the install procedures for the jpilot package.
[06:23] <thefish> freelove: have you tried eating your own head?
[06:24] <thefish> then you havent tried everything
[06:24] <hostix> im trying to config VMware an everything seems to be config'd right but when i try to start it i get "vmware is installed, but it has not been (correctly) configured
[06:24] <hostix> ............"
[06:24] <phiqtion> nalioth: ?
[06:24] <thefish> freelove: if you like, you can put your grub.conf in pastebin and send a link here
[06:24] <robzon> hey, automounting stopped working.. anyone knows what could be wrong?
[06:24] <robzon> (i mean usb mass storage devices)
[06:25] <hostix> what can be wrong i have used defualt setup an the kernel headers for my kernel
[06:25] <ravi_> Dr_Willis: i am not able to get the tar balls frm the given links in the forum i am trying to enable dri
[06:25] <Millenniumgroup> How do I enable DD5.1 in linux? vlc can't play DD5.1 movies I have to switch to stereo evry time..anyone got a good guide? Im using a simple creative 5.1 card
[06:25] <wyawc2000> Who can help me configure eclipse+myeclipse+tomcat??
[06:26] <robzon> i have dbus processes running...
[06:26] <ravi_> i am not able to get the tar balls frm the given links in the forum i am trying to enable dri
[06:26] <wyawc2000> I have install eclipse,myeclipse,tomcat, but when i write a .jsp file,  I couldn't see the result..
[06:27] <robzon> anyone at least knows how automounting works in ubuntu?
[06:28] <topyli> robzon: via hotplug i guess
[06:28] <fdr> hello... please, could you tell me where am I supposed to file bugs? On launchpad or on bugzilla? Thank you!
[06:28] <wyawc2000> That i have start my tomcat, and test it is well, but it also couldn't work when i edit a jsp file....why?
[06:28] <robzon> topyli: do you know what is required? which daemons/processes? i think that installing kde3.5 could brake it... :/
[06:29] <Madpilot> fdr: launchpad, I think
[06:29] <fdr> Madpilot: I was wondering, because both sites are active...
[06:29] <ravi_> i am not able to get the tar balls frm the given links in the forum i am trying to enable dri
[06:29] <ravi_> some one help me
[06:30] <wolki> ok. i just called him again, we tried some things out... it seems like the ip he's getting is not the ip he usually has (but we're not 100% sure). We're on the same network, and i gave him wha'ts entered in broadcast on my machine, but we still get "network is unreachable" errors... and no packages sent/received, which it should - i guess - do if it actually tries to send stuff
[06:30] <topyli> robzon: dunno, it's an init scipt. try "sudo /etc/init.d/hotplug restart" and see if it's broken or not :)
[06:31] <wolki> oh, he just told me he got a weird error while booting up recently... are those messages logged for some days, and if they are, where? i'm kinda out of my depth here, the slightest idea would be very appreciated
[06:31] <robzon> topyli: eh, it's not a problem with hotplug :/
[06:32] <Shimonn> hi
[06:32] <JabberWokky> Anybody have any experience with getting Ubuntu installed on a system with an Adaptec 2610SA RAID card?
[06:33] <marvin_> hi
[06:33] <topyli> robzon: i haven't seen kde in 5 or 6 years, so i don't know how it works, or what it does to people's systems :(
[06:33] <GorN> j0
[06:33] <JabberWokky> Anybody have any experience with an Adaptec 2610SA RAID card at all?
[06:33] <marvin_> helpme plz
[06:33] <freelove> !pastebin
[06:34] <robzon> topyli: ok.. thanks for help anyways.. I'll look through hotplug scripts, maybe KDE changed them in some way.. :/
[06:34] <JabberWokky> robzon: Missed your question when you came in, but have you tried #kubuntu?  (Just trying to help, sorry if that's useless advice)
[06:34] <robzon> JabberWokky: no no, I'm back to gnome now :)
[06:34] <freelove> thefish: plz give me pastebin link......
[06:34] <marvin_> hello
[06:34] <marvin_> hello
[06:35] <kenmaster> hello
[06:35] <robzon> hello
[06:35] <marvin_> need help
[06:35] <einPaule> hello
[06:35] <marvin_> in linux
[06:35] <JabberWokky> robzon: Yes, but if you installed the KDE packages (which I'm not sure you did), they would know them in more depth over in the #kubuntu channel.  Just a thought. :)
[06:35] <Oceansblue> hello
[06:35] <robzon> JabberWokky: hmm yeah, I'll give it a try. thanks :)
[06:35] <marvin_> how install the messenger of hotmail in itsistem
[06:36] <freelove> thefish: plz tell me where i can post my grub conf??
[06:36] <hostix> pastebin.com
[06:36] <thefish> freelove: ^
[06:36] <Seveas> marvin_, it's installed by default in applications -> internet instant messenging
[06:36] <thefish> freelove: i need to go soon, but paste it and im sure someone will help
[06:37] <kenmaster> usa gaim
[06:37] <marvin_> ok
[06:38] <sklav> whats up guys / gals
[06:38] <freelove> thefish: plzzzzzzzzzzzzz stay for 5 min only.......its imp:(
[06:39] <owner989> any idea how i can prevent ubuntu from trying to mount a card reader built into a USB printer
[06:39] <thefish> freelove: pastebin it then!
[06:39] <freelove> here it is http://pastebin.com/451151
[06:40] <kenmaster> is una hp?
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> owner989,  that works? cool.
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:40] <freelove> thefish: i read somewhere that this happens bcoz my bios & linux are clashing....
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> owner989,  gnome has some settings as to what to auto-mount  for the user.
[06:40] <owner989> dr_willis i got the canon mp130 working under linux
[06:40] <callisto> hi
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> owner989,  but im not sure if you can set it for a SINGLE thing..its a all or nothing  I think
[06:40] <callisto> hm..
[06:40] <owner989> the ip15000 driver works for the mp130
[06:40] <owner989> but
[06:41] <freelove> thefish: my bro reinstalled win98, i lost grub, reinstalled grub....since then windows wont boot...it hangs...
[06:41] <owner989> ubuntu has scrolling errors in the console trying to mount a card reader built into the printer
[06:41] <callisto> what's subject
[06:41] <owner989> you cant see them in the gui
[06:41] <sklav> hi
[06:41] <callisto> hi
[06:41] <owner989> but if you press alt+f1 you can
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> owner989,  oh -  you could just edit the fstab and try to mount it manually and see what the deal is.
[06:42] <freelove> thefish: hda1 & hda5 are same physical drive......how can i change drive & jumpers?
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> owner989,  it may be mad theres no card in the slot.
[06:42] <gi2k15> Is there in a repository where I can find kernel 2.6.12 source?
[06:42] <owner989> this is a  problem in all linux distros
[06:42] <thefish> freelove: no, its because its trying to boot to a disk/partition thats not there
[06:42] <gi2k15> Although Ubuntu uses it, it seems the official repositories just have 2.6.11 source
[06:42] <owner989> i think its because the linux kernel doesnt properly support that type of card reader
[06:42] <owner989> canon card reader
[06:42] <Bill^Gates> hi everyone
[06:42] <thefish> freelove: you cant on that, but you want linux in hda1 and win in hda5?
[06:42] <Bill^Gates> can anyone help me?
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> freelove,  change what? if they are the same drive.. what are you trying to do swap hda1 and hda5 ?
[06:43] <gi2k15> Bill^Gates, just ask
[06:43] <callisto> what's problem
[06:43] <callisto> Bill
[06:43] <owner989> the printer works fine now though, its just an annoyance
[06:43] <Bill^Gates> i am running the new ubuntu live cd, in a terminal when i do su it asks me for a password... what do i put in there?
[06:43] <owner989> use your user password bill
[06:44] <callisto> right
[06:44] <callisto> user passwd
[06:44] <sephadex> hi
[06:44] <pbransford> Bill^Gates, su doesn't work. do sudo instead
[06:44] <freelove> Dr_Willis: exactly....coz i want win98 to install to c: not d:.......ive heard it automatically installs to c:
[06:44] <callisto> activate root
[06:44] <pbransford> Bill^Gates, sudo -s    gives you what su does
[06:44] <gi2k15> Bill^Gates, use sudo and your user pass
[06:44] <callisto> sudo passwd root
[06:44] <sephadex> alguien espaol?
[06:44] <callisto> activate root
[06:45] <freelove> ive hda & hdb.....win on hda1 linux on hdb1
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> freelove,  INSTALLING is going to be an issue.  if it was allready installed you could use the grub boot loader to 'swap' the partitions - that has NOTHING to do with Jumpers or the cbles however.
[06:45] <freelove> thefish: plz say what to do?
[06:45] <pbransford> !tell sephadex ubuntu-es
[06:45] <einPaule> Hello people, Ive got a bit of a problem... I want to play mp3s on AmaroK, yet it tells me that OSS is being used by another program... is it not possible to use skype and amarok at the same time?
[06:45] <sephadex> hola..tenog un problema..como no
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> freelove,  actually if your hda5 is unallocated.. windows may format and install to it fine.  - but it may have issues booting it.
[06:45] <freelove> Dr_Willis: no no swapping in such wont be of help.....coz win98 is on hda1
[06:46] <owner989> einpaule go into the amarok options
[06:46] <sephadex> no tengo /dev/dsp
[06:46] <sklav> !tell sklav mp3
[06:46] <pbransford> sephadex, habla espanol en #ubuntu-es    (me no hablo espanol, hablo ingles :) )
[06:46] <owner989> you can select the audio output
[06:46] <freelove> thefish: plz help what to do?
[06:46] <owner989> i reccommend alsa
[06:46] <sephadex> oks
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> freelove,  so now we are back - to not knowing what you are trying to do.
[06:46] <sephadex> thx
[06:46] <thefish> freelove: paste your grub.conf into pastebin.com
[06:46] <einPaule> owner989: Can I select independantly from the system settings?
[06:47] <sephadex> #ubuntu-es
[06:47] <owner989> yes you can
[06:47] <djroupe> hi everybody
[06:47] <owner989> einpaule try this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44753
[06:47] <Bill^Gates> pbransford: thanks for the help, it worked
[06:47] <freelove> thefish: i DID! http://pastebin.com/451151
[06:48] <Bill^Gates> if i issue the command dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=1M will it low-level-format the hdd?
[06:48] <freelove> Dr_Willis: i want to make windows boot anyhow....or my bro threatens me he will format my linux partitions.......
[06:48] <owner989> ubuntu should switch to alsa next release
[06:48] <owner989> and dump esd
[06:48] <einPaule> owner989: Ill try it, but ive been trying some guides...
[06:48] <deFrysk> owner989, ubuntu uses alsa
[06:49] <einPaule> owner989: Ill tell you how it goes
[06:49] <owner989> not by default however
[06:49] <djroupe> i have some king of pb. my webcam freeze my screen. its a microdia with this ID: 0c45:602c
[06:49] <deFrysk> owner989, gnome uses the deamon
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> freelove,  so in summary - you have windows installed? and its where? and for some reaon your grub boot loader is not loading it?
[06:49] <phiqtion> nalioth: i download ZSNES from terminal, where does it install itself? /opt?
[06:49] <thefish> freelove: it boots ubuntu ok though?
[06:49] <spola> Bill^Gates, yeah but WHY ?
[06:50] <freelove> Dr_Willis: win on hda1, ubuntu on hdb1, NO grub is loading and i CAN boot into ubuntu....but not windows....
[06:50] <nalioth> phiqtion: i have no clue. i do know there are snes emulators available in the repos
[06:50] <chrisx1> Any1 know if amsn is working in ubuntu yet?
[06:50] <freelove> thefish: only win98 doesnt boot.....
[06:50] <owner989> freelove does windows even show up in the grub menu
[06:50] <phiqtion> nalioth: what folder u think it might be
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> freelove,  so you basicially need to just edit your grub config file to  boot windows.
[06:50] <La_PaRCa> hey kids
[06:50] <nalioth> phiqtion: i have no idea. i dont game
[06:51] <djroupe> is someone could help me with my camera????
[06:51] <freelove> yes windows shows up in grub
[06:51] <phiqtion> nalioth: where can i find out where zsnes is? is there a command that tells me?
[06:51] <freelove> Dr_Willis: how to do that?
[06:51] <thefish> freelove: and you say windows is on hda1? you are sure?
[06:51] <freelove> thefish: sure
[06:51] <trappist> phiqtion: `which zsnes` should tell you, if it's properly installed
[06:51] <nalioth> phiqtion: dpkg -l zsnes (or whatever the pkgname is)
[06:51] <Bill^Gates> spola: the hdd is full of bad sectors
[06:51] <trappist> -L
[06:51] <owner989> freelove sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:52] <freelove> thefish: the problem is very similar to this but with ubuntu http://portal.suse.com/sdb/en/2004/05/fhassel_windows_not_booting91.html
[06:52] <thefish> freelove: and when you select windows 98/ME from the grub menu it just stays blank?
[06:52] <owner989> freelove can you view the windows drive in ubuntu?
[06:52] <freelove> owner989: yes
[06:52] <freelove> thefish: no....it all happens exactly this way http://portal.suse.com/sdb/en/2004/05/fhassel_windows_not_booting91.html
[06:53] <vblanton> Hey all ,I want to keep the same home folder with all my files from gentoo linux, but some of the hidden config files make it a little messy.  Should I just delete all the hidden folders and THEN install ubuntu? Will that work?
[06:53] <owner989> freelove you probably need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:53] <owner989> type sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:53] <owner989> add the partitions that you need to show
[06:53] <freelove> owner989: done......what next?
[06:53] <vblanton> If I keep th hidden files/folders with the config's then sometimes programs in a test-install of kubuntu I have act a little funky, and my Kmenu is not really functional and has fake entries...
[06:53] <owner989> when you reboot it should show up in grub
[06:53] <owner989> assuming you did it correctly
[06:54] <Absenth> What was the xwindows friendly sudo command again?
[06:54] <freelove> vblanton: yes that will work......but i think just deleting .kde should suffice..
[06:54] <Absenth> I know it's  g(something)sudo  or just gsudo?
[06:55] <vblanton> freelove: ok. thanks for double checking
[06:55] <freelove> owner989: windows does show up in grub....what to do next?
[06:55] <einPaule> owner989: Ive followed the Guide and will reboot
[06:55] <einPaule> or do I just have to restart x
[06:55] <einPaule> ?
[06:55] <TTilus> what prog you woud recommend to use when burning data dvd-r discs
[06:55] <demey> lo
[06:55] <owner989> not sure einpaul
[06:55] <einPaule> ok
[06:55] <einPaule> see ya
[06:55] <freelove> :(
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> TTilus,  i tend to use k3b
[06:56] <owner989> freelove if it shows up in grub shouldnt selecting the windows partition boot windows?
[06:56] <owner989> thats what it should do
[06:56] <demey> any belgian peeps in here?
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> TTilus,  it just seems to work very well for my needs
[06:56] <TTilus> just roasted couple of discs with k3b and had a weird prob
[06:56] <NiLz> hi, I installed ms fonts, enabled bitmapped fonts but still all the websites look like shit, are there any other font packages I need to install?
[06:56] <TTilus> discs work fine on the machine i burned them
[06:56] <freelove> owner989: it does not........this same exact thing happens http://portal.suse.com/sdb/en/2004/05/fhassel_windows_not_booting91.html
[06:56] <Absenth> ok....  for anyone who wanted to know (me) it's (gksudo command)
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> TTilus,  k3b is just a front end to the cdrecord and other tools.. same as most all the cd-burnin guis out.
[06:57] <TTilus> but another machine (linux too) with equally old dvd drive doesnt seem to get discs to work
[06:57] <CarinArr> i copy some code, it should be identical, but one works and one doesn't
[06:57] <TTilus> Dr_Willis: yup, knew that
[06:57] <CarinArr> er wrong window
[06:57] <chrisx1> Any1 know if amsn is working in ubuntu yet?
[06:57] <thefish> freelove: sorry, not enough time to have more of a look, have you thought of just installing ubuntu over it all, then using a VM like qemu or vmware?
[06:57] <chrisx1> any ideas of touchscreens?
[06:57] <NiLz> any1, please?
[06:58] <NiLz> I installed ms fonts, enabled bitmapped fonts but still all the websites look like shit, are there any other font packages I need to install?
[06:58] <TTilus> disc mounts but the 1+Gig files show as 11Meg or so
[06:58] <owner989> did you install suse linux 9.1 freelove?
[06:58] <TTilus> they are mpg videos (tv recordings)
[06:58] <freelove> owner989: no....im on ubtuntu
[06:58] <owner989> but you get that same error
[06:58] <TTilus> the files show well too , to the point they extend, the 8-11Meg
[06:58] <owner989> ?
[06:59] <TTilus> so on this another machine I only see a tiny bit from the start of the movie
[06:59] <cyphase> Does anyone have problems with their X server crashing when they install the nVidia driver?
[06:59] <cyphase> it runs for 15-25 minutes, then crashe
[06:59] <cyphase> crashes*
[06:59] <TTilus> chrisx1: i have one on my psion  :)
[07:00] <chrisx1> TTilus, i have an hitachi monitor
[07:00] <TTilus> (i frequently find myself tapping my monitor)
[07:00] <chrisx1> i have drivers
[07:00] <chrisx1> just really hard to install
[07:00] <Absenth> cyphase,  on my 32-Bit Breezy install, I haven't had any problems with my 5900-Ultra.  Cyphase I have heard of people having a tough time with the nvidia-glx driver and the 6600 cards
[07:01] <Absenth> cyphase,  I haven't been brave enough to install the nvidia-glx on my 64bit breezy install.
[07:01] <einPaule> owner989: Youve got yourself a very happy Paul! Thanks
[07:01] <owner989> lol
[07:01] <owner989> yes that guide helped me as well
[07:01] <owner989> otherwise i had to killall esd all the time
[07:02] <demey> mmm
[07:02] <TTilus> I burned data DVD with couple of 1+Gb files.  It works fine on the machine it was burned.  Another Linux box having same make and age DVD drive shows only 8-11Mb files, otherwise things work.  Any suggestions what eats up the file tails?
[07:02] <owner989> freelove thats a strange problem, ive been reading that link you posted
[07:03] <FlimFlamMan> gparted isn't resizing the ntfs partition on this laptop... any ideas?
[07:03] <freelove> owner989: ya and had to happen wid me
[07:03] <NiLz> can any1 tell me what font packages should I install pleasE?
[07:03] <owner989> it says it cant even be fixed by restoring the windows mbr with fixmbr..strange
[07:03] <Agrajag> FlimFlamMan: defrag it?
[07:04] <FlimFlamMan> Agrajag, ok
[07:04] <Agrajag> if there's data near the end of the disk it probably can't move it to resize the partition
[07:05] <demey> hey guys i am a noob and just starting with linux :) but now i have a  problem im trying to install teamspeak ( downloaded the filesand installed itt ) but i cant run it ( cant find itt anywhere ) could someone help me? thanxs
[07:05] <moccah> Hi there, I just wondered if i could rezise a reiserfs partition... it is a a single hardrive that is divided into two partitions one for / and one for /home ...
[07:06] <_AkirA_> hello all
[07:06] <_AkirA_> any admin here ? :)
[07:06] <mada> hello all
[07:06] <Seveas> !tell _AkirA_ about anyone
[07:06] <viller> hi
[07:07] <mada> soooo ... any laptop users in the chan?
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> mada,  yes :P
[07:07] <owner989> freelove did you try enabling lba in the bios
[07:07] <mada> Dr_Willis: awesome, mind if i pick your brain for a moment?
[07:07] <owner989> like it said on that link
[07:07] <demey> non whanne help me?
[07:07] <freelove> owner989: yes...no effect
[07:08] <Phoul|away> demey, whats your problem?
[07:08] <viller> does every window manager have different icons? I mean are icons compatible between window managers?
[07:08] <demey> hey guys i am a noob and just starting with linux :) but now i have a  problem im trying to install teamspeak ( downloaded the filesand installed itt ) but i cant run it ( cant find itt anywhere ) could someone help me? thanxs
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> mada,  :P depends on what the issue is.
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> viller,  some times. :P but for the most part yes.
[07:08] <Phoul|away> demey, alt ft teamspeak
[07:08] <Phoul|away> f2*
[07:08] <_AkirA_> (Seveas) please prv
[07:08] <demey> mmm
[07:09] <mada> Dr_Willis: no issue, just general questions ... i am a long time debian user for desktop and server side but i was thinking about going to ubuntu for my laptop, just wondering about over all experience
[07:09] <TTilus> demey: launch console and type teamspeak
[07:09] <Phoul|away> TTilus, lol close to what i said
[07:09] <Phoul|away> "{
[07:09] <Phoul|away> :P
[07:09] <demey> mmm
[07:09] <demey> thanxs
[07:09] <Phoul|away> No problem
[07:09] <bkj> holas
[07:09] <bkj> heys
[07:09] <bkj> i'm new in here
[07:09] <Seveas> hi bkj, welcome
[07:10] <TTilus> Phoul|away: i dont actually know what teamspeak is  :D
[07:10] <bkj> thnx
[07:10] <Phoul|away> Lol all i know is its not a teminal program
[07:10] <Phoul|away> :P
[07:10] <chrisx1> any ideas of touchscreens?
[07:10] <bkj> ubuntu is pretty looking
[07:10] <TTilus> Phoul|away: just did a wild guess...
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> mada,  5.10 worked very well for my compaq V2311 - but  thers alwyas little issues :P
[07:10] <demey> mmm
[07:10] <demey> do i just take themap?
[07:10] <Phoul|away> themap?
[07:11] <demey> teamspeak map
[07:11] <Phoul|away> what the heck?
[07:11] <Phoul|away> lol i dont use teamspeak i only knew how to start it :P
[07:11] <demey> im a noob ;-)
[07:11] <TTilus> Phoul|away: i did not assume it to be, most progs binary is the same name than package
[07:11] <viller> Dr_Willis: I thought I have to convert them all the time. It would be great if icons would be handled by X11 like cursors
[07:11] <Phoul|away> TTilus, Ahh
[07:11] <mada> Dr_Willis: i know all too well about "little issues", my main thing is that i love debian but it doesn't exactly have the "desktop focus" that ubuntu does, so i figured it might be a better candidate for a laptop ... also, did you notice any battery life loss when going to ubuntu?
[07:12] <Phoul|away> Hmmm
[07:12] <Phoul|away> :P
[07:12] <Phoul|away> I like gnome
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> viller,  it depends. :P theres a trend now to using "SVG" icons which look MUCH better then just bitmaps
[07:12] <Phoul|away> I tried ion3
[07:12] <moccah> Hi there, I just wondered if i could rezise a reiserfs partition... it is a a single hardrive that is divided into two partitions one for / and one for /home ...
[07:12] <TTilus> Phoul|away: so to be accurate teamspeak& if you want to get rid of term after launching the prog
[07:12] <Phoul|away> I didnt understand
[07:12] <Phoul|away> ><
[07:12] <Phoul|away> TTilus, have you ever used ion3?
[07:12] <TTilus> Phoul|away: heard of it, never used
[07:13] <Phoul|away> I find it annoying beyond belife!
[07:13] <Phoul|away> You have to pretty much memorize EVERYTHING on your computor
[07:13] <Phoul|away> Well thats not bad
[07:13] <Phoul|away> But no graphical things can be used
[07:13] <Phoul|away> >:(
[07:13] <viller> Dr_Willis: better? I can't believe that. IMO svg is uglier and has less possibilities. Although you only have to make one image. That's good for the developer
[07:13] <TTilus> im a gnome/icewm-style of gui
[07:13] <Phoul|away> you like icewm?
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> viller,  the svg icon themes for kde look very nice..
[07:14] <Phoul|away> TTilus, do you have a screenshot of your icewm system?
[07:14] <TTilus> Phoul|away: like?  it does what i need.
[07:14] <Phoul|away> i have wondered if it can look nice
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> viller,  gee. do  ya use 32x32 pixls icons.., or 64x64 ect.. thats the main issue ive seen with bitmaps.
[07:14] <viller> Dr_Willis: I think they're just done good
[07:15] <Madpilot> viller: SVG is completely resizable, no pixelization like you get w/ enlarging bitmaps
[07:15] <Phoul|away> TTilus, any screenshots?
[07:15] <viller> Madpilot: i know that, I'm an artist myself kinda
[07:15] <TTilus> Phoul|away: waite a sec
[07:15] <Phoul|away> kk
[07:18] <Phoul|away> TTilus, anythin?
[07:18] <TTilus> Phoul|away: look priv
[07:18] <Phoul|away> huh?
[07:18] <Phoul|away> i never got a pm
[07:18] <TTilus> Phoul|away: just got
[07:18] <TTilus> :D
[07:19] <Phoul|away> Nope
[07:19] <Phoul|away> is your nick registered?
[07:19] <phoul> there now try
[07:19] <demey> Phoul can whe go private?
[07:19] <phoul> uhh demey one moment
[07:19] <demey> ok
[07:19] <phoul> TTilus, pm it now
[07:19] <phoul> demey, shure pm me
[07:20] <korhalf> man python is the best language ever
[07:20] <korhalf> :)
[07:20] <demey> i offered you a chat
[07:20] <phoul> Not dcc
[07:20] <korhalf> after 15 minutes of reaeding the tut
[07:20] <phoul> thats not a pm
[07:20] <demey>  this is the only thing i have
[07:20] <demey> :s
[07:20] <korhalf> i made a function that returns the hypotenuse
[07:20] <phoul> demey,
[07:20] <korhalf> def hypotenuse(x,y):
[07:20] <phoul> type this /query phoul
[07:20] <phoul> And TTilus screenshot *please*
[07:20] <korhalf>      print math.sqrt(x**2+y**2)
[07:21] <demey> ty
[07:21] <phoul> demey, is your nick registed?
[07:21] <korhalf> imagine writing this in C/C++, you have to specify data types
[07:21] <korhalf> include headers
[07:21] <korhalf> too much work
[07:21] <demey> nope
[07:21] <Bill^Gates> i issued the command dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=1M to low-level-format the hdd from the live cd.  It shows no indication of progress, except that in the beginning the HDD LED was lit. Now the LED is no longer on and there is no indication of progress.  Can anyone shed some light?
[07:21] <lsuactiafner> where the does ubuntu store the data it collects from apt-get update? the new package lists ect?
[07:21] <phoul> demey, i wont get the pm inless you register its a server rule thingy
[07:21] <phoul> And TTilus screenshot pleasie
[07:21] <demey> mmm
[07:21] <korhalf> lsuactiafner, /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:21] <demey> ok then
[07:22] <korhalf> lsuactiafner, these are the pages it checks to update the repository
[07:22] <phoul> demey, you know how to register i hope (/ns register password)
[07:22] <korhalf> well the cache on your machien that is
[07:22] <eheil> No.  Data where apt stores its packages by default live in /var/cache/apt.
[07:22] <demey> now i am
[07:23] <ericmoritz\0> is ubuntu every going to update firefox?
[07:23] <Bill^Gates> anyone?
[07:23] <soundray> Bill^Gates, if I read your command correctly, it writes just one megabyte of zeros to the beginning of the disk.
[07:23] <eheil>  /etc/apt/sources.list is where you configure apt sources.
[07:23] <fanta> i compiled gtk+ with ./configure; make; make install and had no errors - how do i run it?
[07:23] <Amaranth> ericmoritz\0: It's too large of a change since lots of apps build against firefox.
[07:23] <soundray> Bill^Gates, that should happen within a second...
[07:23] <phoul> TTilus, please answer
[07:23] <Amaranth> fanta: gtk is a library, you don't run it
[07:24] <ericmoritz\0> Amaranth: :/
[07:24] <Amaranth> fanta: and if you're using ubuntu it was installed by default
[07:24] <Bill^Gates> soundray: what should the command be for the whole hdd?
[07:24] <TTilus> phoul: tried to mesg you couple of times
[07:24] <TTilus> phoul: dunno whats wrong
[07:24] <phoul> is your nick registered?
[07:24] <ericmoritz\0> all my extensions are breaking
[07:24] <TTilus> phoul: i dont know
[07:24] <fanta> ok, what about QT ?
[07:24] <phoul> register it
[07:24] <TTilus> phoul: maybe not
[07:24] <phoul> (/ns register password)
[07:24] <soundray> Bill^Gates, ...erm, sorry, I could have been wrong.
[07:24] <phoul> Next time you log in you do /ns identify password
[07:25] <fanta> i compiled it too, but how do i run a compiled program?
[07:25] <soundray> Bill^Gates, can you do a 'ps aux | grep dd' on another command line to see if dd is still running.
[07:25] <phoul> TTilus, now try
[07:25] <Bill^Gates> anyone know the command to low level format a whole hdd?
[07:25] <lsuactiafner> where the does ubuntu store the data it collects from apt-get update? the new package lists ect?
[07:25] <linukso> fanta: I think you are way off, if you don't know what gtk+ is, why did you compile it from source?
[07:26] <lsuactiafner> Bill^Gates : maybe your bios will do it, my silicon image 3114 does it
[07:26] <phoul> TTilus, register the nick then pm me
[07:26] <Bill^Gates> soundray: something must still be running, because the command prompt has not yet reset
[07:26] <soundray> Bill^Gates, do a 'ps aux | grep dd' please and report the result
[07:26] <phoul> Please
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> Bill^Gates,  ICK.  every time ive ever seen some one ask about low-level formatng.. they normally get a new hd soon afterwards
[07:26] <Bill^Gates> lsuactiafner: no, i already checked the bios
[07:26] <TTilus> phoul: just doing the "register the nick" part  :)
[07:26] <fanta> i just wanted a program to build GUI apps
[07:26] <eheil> I alteady told you.  By drfault, the apt cache lives in /var/apt/cache.
[07:27] <Bill^Gates> Dr_Willis: this hard drive was scanned with HDD Regenerator, it found over a gig of bad sectors
[07:27] <eheil> rather /var/cache/apt
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> Bill^Gates,  :P  may be time to hit the store...
[07:27] <Bill^Gates> Dr_Willis: the hdd does not complete a format due to i/o errors
[07:28] <soundray> Bill^Gates, it's probably not worth wasting your time on this disk.
[07:28] <Bill^Gates> Dr_Willis: i just want to llf the hdd, see if it doesnt PERHAPS help
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> Bill^Gates,  do you even want to risk it dieing tomorrow on ya :P
[07:28] <Bill^Gates> soundray: it actually is, considered i am in sudan and no computers shops in hundreds of miles from me :(
[07:29] <Bill^Gates> Dr_Willis: well, yes.  seeing that no OS boots from it currently
[07:29] <soundray> Bill^Gates, oh right, I thought you lived near Seattle. :-)
[07:29] <linukso> fanta: gtk is part of the default install, if you want to create you own applications, get glade2.
[07:30] <Bill^Gates> soundray: im on a peace keeping mission in sudan
[07:30] <lemur> I'm tring to use vnc, but every gtk app segfaults
[07:30] <fanta> ok thanks, linukso
[07:31] <linukso> fanta: you can find it in synaptic or aptitude, it will bring along lots of dependencies...
[07:31] <soundray> Bill^Gates, how big is that disk?
[07:31] <Bill^Gates> soundray: i have two laptops having the same problem, one has a 12.7gb and the other 40gb hdd's
[07:32] <Secreth`X> Someone know how to change the default C compiler? Because I keep getting this error: checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[07:32] <soundray> Bill^Gates, sounds like they collided...
[07:32] <Bill^Gates> soundray: yup
[07:32] <Bill^Gates> soundray: any idea how to zero-fill/llf them?
[07:32] <moccah> Hi there, I just wondered if i could rezise a reiserfs partition... it is a a single hardrive that is divided into two partitions one for / and one for /home ...
[07:33] <Bill^Gates> soundray: they both have toshiba hdd's, and toshiba is the only manufacturer that does not have hdd utilities for their hard drives
[07:34] <soundray> Bill^Gates, this regenerator thingy, was it not able to partition some space for you in unaffected sectors?
[07:34] <CyberAngel> Hi guys! Can anyone help me on something?
[07:34] <jbroome> ask
[07:34] <CyberAngel> I need a program to capture AVI`s from my TV Tuner. In my previous distro (slamd64) I was using XdTV that it was able to capture into multiple formats (including mpeg2, mpeg4, xvid and many other). Now I have installed XdTV on kubuntu breezy but it can only capture as UnCompressed AVI!!!
[07:34] <linukso> Secreth`X: you are shure that you have a C compiler installed (sudo aptitude install build-essential
[07:34] <demey> any dutch guys in here
[07:34] <demey> orr belgian?
[07:34] <linukso> will get you all you need)
[07:34] <Bill^Gates> soundray: no, it just scans a hdd for bad sectors, and attempts to recover them using magnetic alterations on the disk platter, leaving all data intact
[07:34] <Secreth`X> linukso, yes.. I have gcc installed
[07:35] <Bill^Gates> soundray: had it scanning a month on the one drive, then got tired with it
[07:35] <Bill^Gates> soundray: that's why my only option is to Low level format
[07:35] <linukso> Secreth`X: ok. is it make or configure that fails?
[07:35] <Secreth`X> configure
[07:35] <soundray> Bill^Gates, was the disk partitioned when the problem first occurred?
[07:35] <linukso> Secreth`X: ah, could you post a bit more of the error in pastebin?
[07:36] <CyberAngel> The strange thing is that when I tried to compile from source I get some warnings like:
[07:36] <CyberAngel> checking for libavcodec (ffmpeg) header files... yes
[07:36] <CyberAngel> checking for avcodec_init in -lavcodec... no
[07:36] <CyberAngel> configure: WARNING: *** Could not find libavcodec (ffmpeg) libraries: feature is disabled ***
[07:36] <CyberAngel> The same happens for the other codecs (xvid, divx etc) but I have already installed them.....
[07:36] <Secreth`X> linukso, thats the only error :/
[07:36] <Bill^Gates> soundray: no, not one of them was partitioned
[07:36] <slashx1896> How can i find out if my webcam is supported w/ linux?
[07:36] <Secreth`X> linukso, i'll try that sudo aptitude install build-essential
[07:36] <linukso> Secreth`X: is that the only output from configure?
[07:36] <Secreth`X> linukso, no.. but the rest are no errors.. they are all positive
[07:36] <demey> does one of you guys has teamspeak installed?
[07:36] <linukso> Secreth`X: it might not help you, but most configure errors comes from missing header files.
[07:36] <soundray> Bill^Gates, I'll tell you what I would try.
[07:37] <CyberAngel> demey, I have teamspeak installed
[07:37] <Bill^Gates> okay?
[07:37] <demey> pm?
[07:37] <Secreth`X> linukso, I'll try..
[07:37] <linukso> Secreth`X: may I ask what you are compiling?
[07:37] <unforcer> hey could someone tell me why I cannot login there comes xserver-errors > /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: running: /usr/bin/X11/sessreg -a -w /var/log/wtmp - u /var/run/utmp -x "/var/lib/gdm/:0Xservers" -h "" -l ":0" "username"
[07:37] <Secreth`X> linukso, Irssi atm.. but I tried it before and it didnt work then
[07:38] <soundray> Bill^Gates, create multiple 2-Gig partitions and format them one-by-one with the dd command you were using.
[07:38] <Secreth`X> linukso, that aptitude worked! Thanks!
[07:38] <MonsieurBon> I just tried to compile a driver for my wlan card and got this error: http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/796 any idea someone?
[07:38] <Bill^Gates> soundray: any use for doing that?
[07:38] <slashx1896> How can i find out if my webcam is supported w/ linux? anyone?
[07:38] <soundray> Bill^Gates, if the damage is limited to a region on the HD, you'll isolate the region that way.
[07:38] <unforcer> slashx1896: what is your webcam?
[07:38] <eedge> Eeeeek.
[07:38] <linukso> Secreth`X: great!
[07:39] <soundray> Bill^Gates, plus, you'll have the majority of the hd low-level-formatted.
[07:39] <Secreth`X> linukso, woot.. thanks!
[07:39] <slashx1896> unforcer: i think its a logitech
[07:39] <CyberAngel> demey, As I can see I can`t pm you cause I`m not registered....
[07:39] <demey> cyberangel
[07:39] <Bill^Gates> soundray: what exactly does a llf do, does it fix bad sectors?
[07:39] <demey> ow
[07:40] <demey> i have installed ts
[07:40] <Secreth`X> linukso, Is there a difference between apt-get and aptitude?
[07:40] <soundray> Bill^Gates, no.
[07:40] <unforcer> slashx1896: yep just use the search in ubuntu forums there are lots thread of those.....I think
[07:40] <demey> but how do i run itt?
[07:40] <CyberAngel> in which folder did you installed it?
[07:40] <eedge> I'm networked through a switch to another windows station... All internet is going through that station (and working) but when I do sudo mii-tool eth0
[07:40] <eedge>  I get eth0: 10 Mbit, half duplex, no link
[07:40] <eedge> . And if I double click the linux station from windows network neighborhood it times out (can't get to file shares)?
[07:40] <demey> home
[07:40] <slashx1896> unforcer: alrite, cause gnome meetings is saying no cam plugged in when there is
[07:40] <soundray> Bill^Gates, you wanted it llf'ed, I thought you knew why.
[07:41] <demey> im using gnome
[07:41] <CyberAngel> ok go to your home and the to the folder that you installed TeamSpeak
[07:41] <linukso> Secreth`X: aptitude will remove dependecies if you remove an application that you installed with aptitude.
[07:41] <Bill^Gates> soundray: well that seems to be the way to go according to a lot of forums i looked at
[07:41] <unforcer> slashx1896: you need to install driver for you cam..
[07:41] <demey> and then?
[07:41] <CyberAngel> it has an executable file in there
[07:41] <Secreth`X> linukso, ah ok.. thanks again
[07:41] <kitschd> anyone know any way to make transparency for kde apps work in gnome or other graphical environments? i really want transparency for yakuake :)
[07:41] <sharrej> is ther any way to forcr kill a nonresponding program under gnome
[07:41] <CyberAngel> then ./TeamSpeak
[07:41] <demey> a file that says teamspeak and SH
[07:41] <FlimFlamMan> is it possible to defrag an XP NTFS partition and move all the files toward the beginning of the drive?  the built-in defragger seems to defrag but doesn't consolidate it.
[07:41] <slashx1896> Will the normal cd that i had installed on windows work on linux?
[07:42] <CyberAngel> Normally it should run
[07:42] <soundray> Bill^Gates, I can imagine that there are situation where a llf helps, but not if you have actual bad sectors.
[07:42] <demey> i klik on itt and klik run
[07:42] <slashx1896> o Alrite well il brb
[07:42] <CyberAngel> ok I am just using the console :)
[07:42] <demey> mmm
[07:43] <CyberAngel> It runs perfectly for me
[07:43] <soundray> Bill^Gates, when you have bad sectors, you need a strategy that identifies and makes usable the remaining good sectors.
[07:43] <demey> i press alt + f2
[07:43] <demey> then i search the map
[07:43] <eedge> I'm networked through a switch to another windows station... All internet is going through that station (and working) but when I do sudo mii-tool eth0
[07:43] <demey> and select the run file
[07:43] <eedge>  I get eth0: 10 Mbit, half duplex, no link.
[07:43] <demey> but itt doesnt do anything
[07:43] <demey> where schould itopen?
[07:44] <CyberAngel> demey, I have installed as root in /opt/TeamSpeak2RC2
[07:44] <CyberAngel> the I am pressing alt+f2 and I am typing /opt/TeamSpeak2RC2/TeamSpeak and it runs
[07:44] <demey> mmm
[07:44] <CyberAngel> just that :)
[07:44] <Bill^Gates> soundray: any idea what strategy to use?
[07:44] <demey> ow
[07:44] <soundray> Bill^Gates, didn't I tell you a few minutes ago?
[07:45] <coz> hello all
[07:45] <CyberAngel> now if you want you can make a symbolic link in /bin so yuo can run it from averywhere
[07:45] <demey> ill do /home/TeamSpeak2RC2/TeamSpeak
[07:45] <soundray> Bill^Gates, create multiple partitions and find out which ones dd doesn't work on.
[07:45] <Bill^Gates> soundray: sorry
[07:45] <CyberAngel> demey, Yes
[07:46] <demey> then it gives an eror
[07:46] <CyberAngel> What error?
[07:46] <coz> OK guys I am bored and lookiing for a new application to test one in graphics or some sort of communication any sugestions?
[07:46] <demey> not able to view location 'file:///home/TeamSpeak2RC2/TeamSpeak%20/home/joris/TeamSpeak2RC2
[07:47] <demey> 'file:///home/TeamSpeak2RC2/TeamSpeak%20/home/joris/TeamSpeak2RC2/TeamSpeak'
[07:47] <demey> i meant
[07:47] <moccah> Hi there, I just wondered if i could rezise a reiserfs partition... it is a a single hardrive that is divided into two partitions one for / and one for /home ...
[07:47] <CyberAngel> run the following: ~/TeamSpeak2RC2/TeamSpeak
[07:48] <seth_k> Amaranth, nice job with Automatix-NG stuff, now talk to robotgeek_away and work with what he's got too ;)
[07:48] <soundray> moccah, install parted, parted-doc and read info parted
[07:49] <demey> now something opens
[07:49] <CyberAngel> :)
[07:49] <Amaranth> seth_k: I don't plan on actually doing anything, it was just a test.
[07:49] <demey> #!/bin/sh
[07:49] <demey> #
[07:49] <demey> # This starup script will set the correct library path
[07:49] <demey> # and then startup the teamspeak binary.
[07:49] <demey> #
[07:49] <demey> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/joris/TeamSpeak2RC2:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[07:49] <demey> /home/joris/TeamSpeak2RC2/TeamSpeak.bin $*$
[07:49] <demey> thats what opens :-/
[07:49] <CyberAngel> :(
[07:50] <seth_k> Amaranth, I know. But robotgeek_away is actually making those changes in a version, hence why I said talk to him
[07:50] <troozers> afternoon chaps n' chappettes
[07:50] <soundray> demey, please don't paste.
[07:50] <demey> ok
[07:50] <demey> srry soundray
[07:50] <soundray> ubotu: tell demey about pastebin
[07:50] <Stork> help, i killed my system tray! i run amarok and it says it's minimizing amarok to try, but it's not there
[07:51] <owner989> does that happen after a reboot as well stork
[07:51] <demey> cyberangel and now?:-s
[07:51] <troozers> need some help ... I have installed breezy and following a postfix install howto - and it says to install libsasl7 from the hoary repos... how do I tell ubuntu to do that?
[07:51] <Determinist> Stork, right click the bar, add notifications area, or just killall gnome-panel to restart the thing
[07:51] <soundray> demey, the bot is on holiday. Check out http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl please.
[07:51] <owner989> just install with synaptic troozers
[07:51] <CyberAngel> open a console to try run it manually as I did
[07:51] <Lord_Maynoth> what would it take to allow linux/ubuntu to have a device manager with the ability to install, ugrade, remove drivers from devices?????????????????
[07:51] <demey> that was manually
[07:51] <rubem> join #mysql
[07:51] <demey> ...
[07:51] <demey> soundray you dutch?
[07:52] <owner989> technically linux doesnt use windows style drivers lord
[07:52] <Stork> Determinist, thanks uberly
[07:52] <Lord_Maynoth> yeah I know owner
[07:52] <Lord_Maynoth> but what would it take to design a system like that
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> I think we need more ??'s :P
[07:52] <troozers> is that a gui tool owner989?  running in text mode only
[07:52] <mipe> When I Copy on flash disk, copy is completed but on my flashdisk is nothing???
[07:52] <soundray> demey, almost. I'm German, I live in the UK, I guess that makes me Dutch on average :)
[07:52] <demey> lol
[07:52] <Determinist> Lord_Maynoth, such a thing does not exist, linux does not support bad drivers hence no need for user interaction in such a process, hence no need for GUI
[07:52] <Determinist> stonp mate
[07:52] <owner989> maynoth what about device manager in system > administration menu
[07:52] <demey> i need a dutch abuntu user
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> Lord_Maynoth,  actually on the last box i had.. I dident need to install  any extra drivers at all.
[07:52] <owner989> that sounds like what you want
[07:53] <demey> so i can speak dutch with him
[07:53] <rubem> hi teher
[07:53] <soundray> demey, ask Seveas.
[07:53] <rubem> how to configure the secret passphrase on phpmyadmin?
[07:53] <jens2000> hallo
[07:53] <Lord_Maynoth> yeah but when you need to install a new driver should there not be an easy gui to do that from
[07:53] <Amaranth> rubem: afaik it's the mysql user info
[07:53] <Determinist> Lord_Maynoth, sure, it's called synaptic
[07:53] <owner989> you can install stuff with synaptic
[07:53] <demey> ok
[07:53] <Amaranth> rubem: which defaults to root with no password, you should add a password and make a new user
[07:53] <owner989> and apt-get
[07:53] <troozers> is synaptic a gui tool?
[07:53] <owner989> yes troozers
[07:54] <Determinist> troozers, indeed it is
[07:54] <CyberAngel> demey, check if that file is executable. For sure do a "chmod 755 ~/TeamSpeak2RC2/TeamSpeak"
[07:54] <troozers> damn, anyway to install from a previous repos without synaptic?
[07:54] <Lord_Maynoth> so again... why would it be impossible to design a gui with a device manager that shows the version of the driver and offers the possibility to update your drivers
[07:54] <CyberAngel> and then "cd ~/TeamSpeak2RC2"
[07:54] <Determinist> troozers, apt-get?
[07:54] <Lord_Maynoth> what would it take
[07:54] <CyberAngel> then "./TeamSpeak"
[07:54] <soundray> Bill^Gates, how are you getting on?
[07:54] <troozers> what do i need to do to get it to install from the hoary repos instead of breezy?
[07:54] <Determinist> Lord_Maynoth, again, do a search in synaptic for the name of your hardware under description, if it found anything... voila.
[07:55] <owner989> maynoth driver support is updated with new kernel versions in linux
[07:55] <owner989> mostly
[07:55] <sharrej> hey guys, is there a keyboard command to force kill a program in gnome
[07:55] <owner989> except for printers and some other stuff
[07:55] <Determinist> troozers, add the hoary repos and do an update, but why on earth would you want to do that?
[07:55] <soundray> sharrej, yes. man kill
[07:55] <phiqtion> nalioth: give some Wine info. is there a wiki?
[07:55] <demey> cyberangel another error
[07:55] <CyberAngel> what error now?
[07:55] <troozers> following http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/#install_distro, and says it had probs with breezy versions of libsasl7
[07:55] <Lord_Maynoth> shouldn't there be an easier way than synaptic... somthing of a dedicated gui applet for dealing with hardware and drivers etc
[07:56] <demey> not able to vieuw  file://cd ~/TeamSpeak2RC2
[07:56] <topyli> sharrej: open terminal, do killall <foo>. or use xkill and click the window owned by that process
[07:56] <Determinist> troozers, installing what application?
[07:56] <troozers> i am doing a postfix+mysql+TLS installation
[07:56] <CyberAngel> where are you writing all these commands?
[07:56] <demey> alt + f2
[07:56] <phiqtion> can anyone give me a link to learn how to install wine
[07:57] <troozers> having the prob with the SASL part
[07:57] <topyli> why doesn't the nautilus send-to dialog have a blietooth option? the gnome-bluetooth web site advertises such a function
[07:57] <CyberAngel> .....maybe that`s the problem....
[07:57] <Determinist> Lord_Maynoth, yes, i suppose, given enough time and better cooperation from hardware makers, i suppose we'll have that too and together with it the sucky drivers avrage hardware makers create instead of the superb (in some cases) drivers created using reverse engineering
[07:57] <CyberAngel> :)
[07:57] <CyberAngel> enter alt+f2
[07:57] <CyberAngel> then "xterm" and press enter
[07:57] <demey> open something
[07:57] <CyberAngel> and then enter all of the above commands in the console
[07:58] <demey> a blak screen
[07:58] <demey> all?$
[07:58] <Determinist> troozers, i dont see how installing it from hoary would help tho. give it a shot.
[07:58] <CyberAngel> perfectly :)
[07:58] <rubem> #phpmyadmin
[07:58] <demey> from start?
[07:58] <troozers> ta
[07:58] <sharrej> Thank You, in kde it's cntrl alt esc
[07:58] <CyberAngel> from chmod and after..
[07:58] <Determinist> this channel is flying too fast before my eyes today :/
[07:59] <Lord_Maynoth> awesome.... when linux has a device manager, with the ability to update delete install new drivers etc. and also autopackage matures more linux will actually be a viable replacement for the adverage windows user
[07:59] <Determinist> or... i may be tired.
[07:59] <Agiofws> to start sshd in ubuntu  i do  --->  /etc/init.d/sshd  start   <--- ?
[07:59] <djk_> where's ubotu?
[07:59] <hefty> hi
[07:59] <phiqtion> can anyone give me a link to learn how to install wine
[07:59] <Millenniumgroup> How do I enable DD5.1 in linux? vlc can't play DD5.1 movies I have to switch to stereo evry time..anyone got a good guide? Im using a simple creative 5.1 card
[07:59] <donza> is there any howto to change breezy to use oss instead of alsa?
[07:59] <djk_> phiqtion: use the repos?
[07:59] <Agiofws> to start sshd in ubuntu  i do  --->  /etc/init.d/sshd  start   ?
[07:59] <owner989> lord maynoth, its not as if windows device manager updates drivers for you
[07:59] <owner989> well it does
[07:59] <donza> alsa is producing some static noice in to my mp3s
[07:59] <cyphase> omg
[07:59] <owner989> but 90% of the time it doesnt update them
[08:00] <demey> chmod?
[08:00] <ClayG> * Starting rpc mountd...                                                                                             [fail] 
[08:00] <Determinist> Lord_Maynoth, i suppose, yes. the problem right now isnt the disability to create such a gui, but rather in the deeper problem that hardware isnt erally being supported on linux yet, on a large scale. it's the egg and the chicken problem. hardware makers wont pay attention to linux as long as there isnt a large user base and a large user base usually demands good hardware support.
[08:00] <demey> from first command thats start with cd?
[08:00] <Agiofws> to start sshd in ubuntu  i do  --->  /etc/init.d/sshd  start   ?
[08:00] <owner989> but i will say that its easier to install video card drivers in windows
[08:00] <Determinist> s/disability/inability
[08:00] <owner989> compared to linux
[08:00] <Determinist> yes, i'll agree
[08:00] <demey> cyberangel
[08:00] <Millenniumgroup> owner989 and it's easier to kill yourself in piss poor windows
[08:00] <demey> thanxs
[08:00] <CyberAngel> let`s go from the start. You are in a console now right?
[08:01] <Agrajag> owner989: what's so hard about apt-get install nvidia-glx?
[08:01] <demey> yes
[08:01] <CyberAngel> very nice
[08:01] <owner989> for newbies agrajag
[08:01] <CyberAngel> enter "cd ~/TeamSpeak2RC2"
[08:01] <Agiofws> to start sshd in ubuntu  i do  --->  /etc/init.d/sshd  start   ?
[08:01] <Determinist> Millenniumgroup, all in all, i do have to admit that windows handles hardware better. it's the quality of the drivers written for that platform that really sucks. there are other (many) problems with windows, but drivers support and handling isnt one of them.
[08:01] <CyberAngel> then enter "chmod 755 TeamSpeak"
[08:01] <Agrajag> owner989: again, what so difficult about it? You run that, it installs the drivers
[08:01] <soundray> Determinist, Lord_Maynoth: if after all those years, Linux was nothing more than a Windows replacement, I wouldn't be here.
[08:01] <Lord_Maynoth> well would it not be great if ubuntu lead the way... and built in a device manager with the ability to update and install 3rd party driver
[08:01] <CyberAngel> And finally enter "./TeamSpeak"
[08:02] <owner989> lol agrajag
[08:02] <shinu> hey, i got this error when i try to run rtorrent which i just compiled: rtorrent: error while loading shared libraries: libtorrent.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:02] <owner989> i never said that was hard
[08:02] <Millenniumgroup> owner989, well then don't use linux or find another distro...or you learn :)
[08:02] <shinu> how can i solve it?
[08:02] <owner989> milleniumgroup i was responding to maynoth
[08:02] <wwallace_lap> owner989: try kanotix
[08:02] <owner989> ive tried kanotix wwalace
[08:02] <phiqtion> can anyone give me a link to learn how to install wine
[08:02] <Determinist> soundray, i'm not suggesting that it is. i'm merely saying that to address a larger crowd, it has to achieve certain things windows has in the past, not that it is to be compared with it.
[08:02] <demey> ffs
[08:02] <Lord_Maynoth> well like it or not.... the windows idiots (like me) are not going to switch until we have some basic functionalities provided by both windows and MacOSX
[08:02] <Millenniumgroup> determinist.. sorry I don't agree... one of the major faults with windows is hardware management, yes im aware 99% of evry dev supports windows..but it took me about 3 seconds to find my 2nd NIC in linux.. ws couldn't even detect it..
[08:02] <demey> i cant get the
[08:02] <wwallace_lap> owner989: did you like it?
[08:03] <Millenniumgroup> Windows = drivers -reboot - drivers - reboot
[08:03] <owner989> wwalace its a good distro
[08:03] <DrBair> shinu:  seems like you need the libtorrent package
[08:03] <wwallace_lap> it is
[08:03] <djk_> phiqtion: how about winehq.com ?
[08:03] <ubun-newbie> i got two nics eth0 and eth1 how do  i remove eth0
[08:03] <owner989> but i wouldnt use it until they release a final version
[08:03] <demey> ~ in it :(
[08:03] <shinu> DrBair: i just compiled that too
[08:03] <djk_> phiqtion: or use apt to install it
[08:03] <owner989> it is RC right now
[08:03] <Lord_Maynoth> basic functionalities being .exe type install system like autopackage is bringing to linux and a device manager with the ability to update and remove/install new drivers
[08:03] <shinu> DrBair: maybe rtorrent is looking in the wrong dirs or something?
[08:03] <CyberAngel> the ~ is your home directory
[08:03] <Determinist> Millenniumgroup, i havent bumped into that all too often, altho i will admit to have ran into such problems in the past. either way, i'm using ubuntu now for obvious reasons, still doesnt mean windows sucks all over, it has afew good things.
[08:03] <DrBair> shinu: did you install libtorrent?
[08:04] <owner989> wwalace_lap i think ubuntu is better for most people than kanotix
[08:04] <Millenniumgroup> ubunu-newbie system -administartion - networking
[08:04] <CyberAngel> it has the same result as if you enter "cd /home/<YOUR USERNAME HERE>/TeamSpeak2RC2"
[08:04] <Secreth`X> Is there a program for turning .AVI's into .MPEG's?
[08:04] <phiqtion> djk_: wine tools first or wine?
[08:04] <demey> so i only need to type /teamspeak....
[08:04] <DrBair> shinu: its probably expecting it in /usr/lib
[08:04] <shinu> DrBair: i compiled it
[08:04] <rubem> anyone know a good php ide for ubuntu?
[08:04] <owner989> because kanotix uses debian unstable and its messed up right now
[08:04] <djk_> phiqtion: install both.
[08:04] <phiqtion> djk_: which one first
[08:04] <shinu> DrBair: my files seem to be in /usr/local/lib
[08:04] <soundray> Determinist, for Linux it would be better to grow the community of tech-savvy users that find it attractive. Competing for a mass audience will only dumb it down.
[08:04] <djk_> phiqtion: whatever you want.
[08:05] <Millenniumgroup> Determinist, i've used ms-dos since 1990.. and I can't see anything good about windows since I switched to linux about to 2months ago... remmeber they are charging YOU for a system that doesn't work very well..
[08:05] <CyberAngel> you need to go to the folder that you installed teamspeak and all you need is to type "./TeamSpeak"
[08:05] <Lord_Maynoth> anyone know if dapper drake will autodetect your windows paritions yet or not (without having to download a script)
[08:05] <DrBair> shinu: is /usr/local/lib in your $PATH?
[08:05] <owner989> milleniumgroup except games
[08:05] <owner989> lol
[08:05] <CyberAngel> demey, Not /TeamSpeak but ./TeamSpeak
[08:05] <owner989> lord maynoth i would use breezy if i were you
[08:05] <Millenniumgroup> lol ya, gaming in linux blows and determinst I do get your point, but plz remember there's a LOT more 3rd parties who supports hardware in ms, since ws is more mainstreamed
[08:05] <CyberAngel> you need the dot before the slash
[08:05] <topyli> i don't think /usr/local/lib is in anybody's path :)
[08:05] <Determinist> soundray, that... is the big debate then, isnt it? for linux to be what it can be it needs better cooperation from hardware makers and other players in the market, without it turning even slighty mainstream, that just wont happen.
[08:06] <shinu> DrBair: nope, how can i add it?
[08:06] <Determinist> Millenniumgroup, yes, i agree :)
[08:06] <Necrocide> Ubuntu for the win!
[08:06] <owner989> linux just needs more driver support from manufacturers
[08:06] <demey> it says its running 0.o
[08:06] <owner989> otherwise its perfect
[08:07] <owner989> ubuntu is a step in the right direction
[08:07] <gnomefreak> kanotix is live cd :(
[08:07] <gnomefreak> and not in english :(
[08:07] <owner989> gnome it can be installed from live cd
[08:07] <owner989> and it is in english
[08:07] <demey> mmm
[08:07] <owner989> you downloaded wrong lang version
[08:07] <Lord_Maynoth> linux needs a device manager  so companies can actually write drivers one time instead of 200 for each distro
[08:07] <Earthpig> topyli: it's not even in the default /etc/ld.so.conf :)
[08:07] <Lord_Maynoth> no company is going to do that
[08:07] <gnomefreak> owner every page google brought up is german :(
[08:08] <demey> cyberangel it says its running and iff itt aint i need to delete some file
[08:08] <ubun-newbie> i got two nics eth0 and eth1 how do  i remove eth0
[08:08] <owner989> lord_maynoth they just need to release the source code
[08:08] <Lord_Maynoth> and no company is going to release the hardware specs due to competition
[08:08] <Lord_Maynoth> right
[08:08] <xslf> Lord_Maynoth: And leave Linux-ppc users in the dark? no thanks
[08:08] <Lord_Maynoth> thats suicide
[08:08] <rebort> hello, can anyone offer help with bug http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16479 Z
[08:08] <Madpilot> Lord_Maynoth: companies need to release specs, so people can write drivers for them...
[08:08] <soundray> Determinist, if Linux turns mainstream to get hardware vendors on board, what we'll get is more of the kind of mess we have with ati and nvidia right now.
[08:08] <CyberAngel> ok delete the file that it says and then rerun it
[08:08] <owner989> gnomefreak, why do you want to use kanotix?
[08:08] <demey> k
[08:08] <owner989> dont you like ubuntu
[08:08] <Lord_Maynoth> companies release specs, whats going to happen?  the competition will copy them
[08:08] <phiqtion> djk_: installed both, nothing came up in the menu. what now?
[08:08] <ubun-newbie> i got two nics eth0 and eth1 how do  i remove eth0
[08:09] <rebort> whats the problem demey ?
[08:09] <gnomefreak> owner989,  i was just looking at it
[08:09] <djk_> phiqtion: type winetools in a terminal..
[08:09] <djk_> phiqtion: and set it up..
[08:09] <Madpilot> Lord_Maynoth: by the time something is released to the public, the "next big thing" is being developed - releasing specs probably doesn't matter much...
[08:09] <Lord_Maynoth> just like handing it out on a platter here come steal all my hard work
[08:09] <Secreth`X> Is there a program for turning .AVI's into .MPEG's?
[08:09] <demey> installing TS rebort
[08:09] <Lord_Maynoth> i disagree and obviously the big corps do also
[08:09] <xslf> Lord_Maynoth: So the competition is always one step behind, while the companies don't have to create drivers non-X86 linux versions
[08:09] <DrBair> shinu: export PATH="/usr/local/lib:${PATH}"
[08:09] <djk_> Secreth`X: transcode, mencoder..
[08:09] <Lord_Maynoth> otherwise they would release all their design documents
[08:09] <soundray> Determinist, if hw vendors only realized how little they have to lose from opening up their specs, we'd have an easier life with hardware support.
[08:10] <Madpilot> Lord_Maynoth: HP supports Linux w/ their specs, and it works for them...
[08:10] <Secreth`X> djk_, are these in apt?
[08:10] <topyli> Lord_Maynoth: the story of ibm and the success story of personal computing
[08:10] <Lord_Maynoth> well hardware is never going open source
[08:10] <topyli> Lord_Maynoth: open specs
[08:10] <djk_> Secreth`X: yes.
[08:10] <Lord_Maynoth> its never going to happen
[08:10] <Secreth`X> djk_, thanks
[08:10] <Lord_Maynoth> unless we get an open platform
[08:10] <Lord_Maynoth> in computing
[08:10] <Lord_Maynoth> you guys keep me posted on that...
[08:10] <Lord_Maynoth> :P
[08:10] <Madpilot> Lord_Maynoth: take a look at the printer page in the wiki, there are about three times as many HP printers there as anythign other company - because HP supports Linux...
[08:10] <rebort> demey: TS = teamspeak?
[08:11] <owner989> which printer are you having trouble with maynoth
[08:11] <DrBair> some companies are nice about specs
[08:11] <demey> yeah rebort
[08:11] <Lord_Maynoth> nothing about printers
[08:11] <Lord_Maynoth> just an observation
[08:11] <vbgunz> its official... Firefox 1.5 is out (for a while)... whats the news!
[08:11] <vbgunz> !firefox
[08:11] <owner989> im using it
[08:11] <owner989> vbgunz
[08:11] <Lord_Maynoth> windows morons like me want functionality like windows xp and MacOS X
[08:11] <Lord_Maynoth> a device manager
[08:11] <topyli> ewww
[08:12] <vbgunz> owner989: didn't download it through apt-get huh?
[08:12] <Lord_Maynoth> and .exe install type install method like autopackage
[08:12] <owner989> no
[08:12] <demey> cyberangel : i cant find the file 0.o
[08:12] <soundray> Lord_Maynoth, so Linux people should jump to cater to your needs?
[08:12] <owner989> i can give you the install link
[08:12] <Lord_Maynoth> yup
[08:12] <vbgunz> owner989: I'll check it out!
[08:12] <Lord_Maynoth> if thats your goal to get us to switch
[08:12] <Lord_Maynoth> if not then don't bother
[08:12] <topyli> Lord_Maynoth: you prefer unmaintainable systems? ;-)
[08:12] <soundray> Lord_Maynoth, sorry, we got other priorities.
[08:12] <Madpilot> Lord_Maynoth: Synaptic is easier than any Windows install system going...
[08:12] <owner989> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion vbgunz
[08:12] <MasterTsunami> ok so then don't switch :)
[08:12] <rebort> demey: paste the errors you're getting at pastebin
[08:12] <amparo_pzzi> someone uses cdrdao??
[08:12] <Lord_Maynoth> BWHAHAHAHAHA
[08:12] <decklin> Lord_Maynoth, perhaps you should go join the current thread on lkml.
[08:12] <vbgunz> owner989: thanks bro!
[08:12] <Secreth`X> I agree with Madpilot
[08:13] <owner989> np
[08:13] <Lord_Maynoth> hang brb
[08:13] <Millenniumgroup> Determinsist, sorry bud, sometimes I just get carried away about windows lol
[08:13] <MasterTsunami> by the way I have a nice webpage you should see...
[08:13] <demey> mmm
[08:13] <soundray> Just another troll. It's sad.
[08:13] <demey> again? :-s
[08:13] <CyberAngel> rebort, where is the pastebin?
[08:13] <MasterTsunami> you are using internet explorer right?  :D
[08:13] <nass> hello all,
[08:13] <Lord_Maynoth> have to wipe my eyes on that one... apt-get is easier than downloading an exe...   oh the tears
[08:13] <djk_> CyberAngel: pastebin.com ?
[08:13] <CyberAngel> It`s my first time on this channel :)
[08:13] <xslf> Lord_Maynoth: You keep assuming that Linux only runs on PC's
[08:13] <rebort> demey: oh just link me then
[08:13] <rebort> !pastebin
[08:13] <CyberAngel> I didn`t knew it :)
[08:13] <ubun-newbie> i got two nics eth0 and eth1 how do  i remove eth0
[08:13] <demey> rebort i postedem in this channel
[08:13] <owner989> lord maynoth, installing drivers in windows isnt always as easy as one click
[08:13] <nass> just wanted to say that the ATI latest driver how-to on the Ubuntu forum really helped me !
[08:13] <Madpilot> rebort: no bot right now
[08:13] <owner989> speaking from experience
[08:13] <rebort> agh
[08:14] <djk_> Madpilot: why not?
[08:14] <rebort>  Use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl for pasting
[08:14] <decklin> Lord_Maynoth: seriously. i think they would appreciate your insight.
[08:14] <Madpilot> djk_: not sure
[08:14] <demey> mmm
[08:14] <djk_> Madpilot: :(
[08:14] <rebort> demey: i wasn't here when you did
[08:14] <Lord_Maynoth> wanna paste a link
[08:14] <demey> im getting a bit annoyed
[08:14] <owner989> gnomefreak this is where the newest kanotix is http://debian.tu-bs.de/project/kanotix/preview/
[08:14] <demey> mmm
[08:14] <Lord_Maynoth> decklin
[08:14] <gnomefreak> ty owner
[08:14] <owner989> np
[08:14] <decklin> http://www.uwsg.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0512.0/0972.html
[08:14] <demey> im getting a bit annoyed
[08:14] <demey> not  you guys
[08:14] <demey> at *
[08:14] <rebort> demey: just paste the link here again
[08:15] <demey> mmm
[08:15] <demey> what link?
[08:15] <versipolis> ubun-newbie: maybe sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[08:15] <demey> mah errors aint on the web dude :s
[08:15] <rebort> demey: go to pastebin.ubuntulinux.bl, paste your problem, it will give you a link to paste here
[08:15] <rebort> demey: that's better than pasting your whole error in the crowded channel
[08:16] <Determinist> Millenniumgroup, sorry, i'm at work , had to take a phone call :)
[08:16] <zeta> anyone know how to  get a card reader working?
[08:16] <demey> kk
[08:16] <Necrocide> Can I just increase my swap by increasing the size of the partition?
[08:16] <Determinist> Millenniumgroup, and it's quite understandable, i'm quite passionate about it as well.
[08:16] <owner989> whats so hard about typing ./executable.bin lord_maynoth
[08:16] <owner989> same thing as windows
[08:16] <mcvideo> salve a tutti
[08:16] <Lord_Maynoth> autopackage is much better
[08:17] <Lord_Maynoth> beats being tied to a central repo
[08:17] <demey> i think linux is a bit to hard for me :-/
[08:17] <poningru> who is a tutti?
[08:17] <poningru> demey: you on a mac?
[08:17] <owner989> whats your issue demey
[08:17] <demey> installing :)
[08:17] <TecnoVM64> linux is just something you have to get used to :>
[08:17] <mcvideo> ce qualcuno che parla la lingua italiana???????
[08:17] <chrisx1> Any1 know if amsn is working in ubuntu yet?
[08:17] <Millenniumgroup> Determinist :)
[08:17] <demey> lol
[08:17] <demey> chrisxl
[08:17] <poningru> chrisx1: amsn?
[08:17] <demey> you dont need to instal that
[08:18] <Lord_Maynoth> in 3 years autopackage will be able to resolve dependencies via apt-get etc... and programs will be able to be unistalled via the native package manager
[08:18] <rebort> demey: good luck i have a test to take now
[08:18] <Secreth`X> demey nothing is to hard. you just need to learn harder..
[08:18] <Lord_Maynoth> so it will become the defacto linux installer
[08:18] <demey> chrisxl: go to applications on the upper site go to inet and klik on
[08:18] <DrBair> zeta: some card readers are a PITA
[08:18] <zeta> PITA?
[08:18] <poningru> demey: whats the problem you are having?
[08:18] <demey> chrisxl : then take Gaim
[08:18] <poningru> pain in the a**
[08:18] <Determinist> Pain In The Ass
[08:18] <owner989> demey just use synaptic
[08:18] <owner989> thats easy to use
[08:18] <zeta> so no luck?
[08:19] <demey> synaptic?
[08:19] <jupp> how can i use php5 with apache? I installed apache and php5
[08:19] <Lord_Maynoth> anyone know if dapper will autodetect windows partitions
[08:19] <Lord_Maynoth> ?
[08:19] <DrBair> zeta: has to do with them not announcing themselves when a card is inserted
[08:19] <djk_> Lord_Maynoth: hoary already did.. warty probably too..
[08:19] <DrBair> zeta: I'll dig up the guide on it
[08:19] <chrisx1> anyone know a version of msn messenger with dp's For ubuntu
[08:19] <sorush20> anyone here know about a good accounting software package?
[08:19] <sorush20> !accounting
[08:19] <poningru> chrisx1: dp?
[08:19] <topyli> chrisx1: what is a dp
[08:19] <Earthpig> Already done home. :)
[08:19] <sorush20> !account
[08:19] <Earthpig> oops
[08:20] <ubun-newbie> sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[08:20] <ubun-newbie> ** (gedit:7981): CRITICAL **: gedit_mdi_set_state: assertion `GEDIT_IS_MDI (mdi)' failed
[08:20] <Madpilot> sorush20: gnucash?
[08:20] <poningru> dont paste in here please
[08:20] <owner989> lord maynoth whats so hard about mounting an NTFS partition?
[08:20] <chrisx1> Display Picture
[08:20] <Lord_Maynoth> no... it didn't I still had to download a script to detect my windows partitions
[08:20] <versipolis> Lord_Maynoth: u mean autodetect or mount so average user can actually use it
[08:20] <owner989> lord_maynoth http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[08:20] <phiqtion> djk_: where can i see the software wine installed? the base system
[08:20] <TaZzZ> chris; gaim for msnmessenger on ubuntu
[08:20] <poningru> chrisx1: well I know kopete does
[08:20] <jeed890> i need help!
[08:20] <demey> mmm
[08:20] <chrisx1> is that for gnome?
[08:20] <Lord_Maynoth> missing the point.... the process should have been completely automatic
[08:20] <poningru> chrisx1: gaim does not have video though
[08:21] <Seveas> poningru, not yet
[08:21] <Lord_Maynoth> I am asking if it will be so in dapper
[08:21] <demey> guys im taking itt to a channel in my own languaga
[08:21] <ubun-newbie> ** (gedit:7981): CRITICAL **: gedit_mdi_set_state: assertion `GEDIT_IS_MDI (mdi)' failed  how to fix this problem
[08:21] <Lord_Maynoth> drak
[08:21] <Seveas> gaim 2 is going to rock
[08:21] <TecnoVM64> chrisx1, kopete does, actually, it's for kde, but will work without any problem in gnome
[08:21] <demey> thanxs for the help
[08:21] <Lord_Maynoth> drake
[08:21] <devint> Can anybody tell me how I can import my font and dll's from my windows installation into Wine?
[08:21] <TaZzZ> chrix1:yes it is
[08:21] <poningru> chrisx1: doh sorry that kopete is not in ubuntu yet
[08:21] <chrisx1> I Cant See Display Picture on it:S
[08:21] <jeed890> CAN ANYBODY HELP ME WITH A BOOT UP PROBLEM?
[08:21] <topyli> phiqtion: you don't care where it is. the executable should be /usr/bin/wine
[08:21] <shinu> DrBair: does that command add that to $PATH for good? or is it just temporary?
[08:21] <poningru> Seveas: any idea when that will be in?
[08:21] <mwe> jeed890: cut the caps
[08:21] <topyli> jeed890: you're hurting my eyes
[08:21] <chrisx1> poningru, I Cant See Display Picture on it:S
[08:21] <djk_> Seveas: where's ubotu?
[08:21] <Seveas> jeed890, please drop the caps and simply state your problem
[08:21] <gnomefreak> gaim2 is dev stage yet?
[08:21] <poningru> jeed890: calm down dude whats the problem?
[08:21] <Seveas> poningru, -ENOCLUE
[08:21] <Thunderguy> I just got these Ubuntu Cd's 5.10 for the PC, the 5 that I ordered, but I have a problem, they are all scratched up on the disc's surface, not that it is so bad, but I can almost garuntee by looking at it that information on the discs is damaged, anyone know a good way to remove scratches and repair disc surfaces?
[08:22] <Seveas> djk_, -ENOCLUE either :)
[08:22] <DrBair> shinu: thats for good
[08:22] <djk_> phiqtion: type locate wine in a terminal ..not sure where it's installed to
[08:22] <topyli> damn. nautilus-sendto still doesn't offer to send files via bluetooth :(
[08:22] <versipolis> Thunderguy: toothpaste? :)
[08:22] <owner989> thunder theres some liquid you can get
[08:22] <shinu> DrBair: ok thanks a lot
[08:22] <owner989> that supposedly removes scratches
[08:22] <Lord_Maynoth> Anyone here know if Dapper drake will autodetect and MOUNT windows partitions without a script?????
[08:22] <Thunderguy> versipolist: Are you serious?
[08:22] <Seveas> topyli, gnome-bluetooth from breezy sucks
[08:22] <zeta> DrBair is the guide in the wiki?
[08:22] <poningru> chrisx1: whats a display picture? is it the picture through video camera? or the one they choose?
[08:22] <jeed890> ok my problem is when i start up pc grub boot loader starts i can get into xp but when i try to boot up ubuntu it comes up with loads of code i dont understand
[08:22] <Seveas> topyli, grab my dapper backports :)
[08:23] <owner989> maynoth if you looked at the link i posted, you could have ubuntu mount the partition correctly on every boot
[08:23] <topyli> Seveas: i just backported dapper gnome-bluetooth, but no worky
[08:23] <chrisx1> poningru, one they choose some peoples i can see but some others i can
[08:23] <ubun-newbie> ** (gedit:7981): CRITICAL **: gedit_mdi_set_state: assertion `GEDIT_IS_MDI (mdi)' failed  how to fix this problem
[08:23] <ProfQki> i made an apt-get upgrade this morning and till that time suspend to disk doesn't work correct
[08:23] <poningru> chrisx1: hmm not sure what the problem is
[08:23] <topyli> Seveas: should i backport nautlus-sendto as well?
[08:23] <DrBair> zeta: nope, its at http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html in the "Additional notes..."  header
[08:23] <Seveas> topyli, no idea, I never tried that function :)
[08:23] <Dasnipa`> Lord_Maynoth, why would you want it to detect and mount ntfs automatically, when you can just edit the file and do it yourself
[08:23] <Lord_Maynoth> thats great owner except you are ignoring the question....   I just asked if dapper would do it automatically... your responce is to sownload a script
[08:23] <poningru> jeed890: did you try waiting till all that code is done?
[08:23] <owner989> its not a script
[08:23] <owner989> its just a command
[08:23] <DrBair> zeta: if you read through it, its not too bad. this was my first undertaking as a linux noobie
[08:24] <chrisx1> poningru, is there a newer version than v1.5.0
[08:24] <Lord_Maynoth> ok then manually edit the fstab
[08:24] <Lord_Maynoth> or whatever
[08:24] <topyli> Seveas: nautilus-sendto is not newer in dapper anyway
[08:24] <chrisx1> nm
[08:24] <chrisx1> goin to there chan
[08:24] <zeta> ok will try
[08:24] <jeed890> it comes up with system panic (next line) system trying to kill init!
[08:24] <jki> Hi
[08:24] <Lord_Maynoth> windows people hate the CLI... and it still is irrelivent to the question... but thanks anyway
[08:24] <jki> Any ideas about why gnome-settings-daemon is only started for the first one of simultaneous Gnome sessions by same user? If i killall gnome-settings-daemon, bonobo-activation-server starts it in each Gnome session.
[08:24] <zeta> DrBair any way to get floppy disks to auto mount
[08:24] <owner989> i dont know maynoth, but ubuntu didnt correctly mount my ntfs partition when i first installed it
[08:24] <poningru> chrisx1: no thats the latest
[08:24] <zeta> DrBair they mount when i right click and click mount.....
[08:24] <owner989> but its not hard to edit fstab
[08:24] <Dasnipa`> the question is whats the big deal about adding a line to fstab to do it... someone might not want to mount an ntfs partition automatically
[08:25] <Thunderguy> Hey, do you think 'eyeglass lensecleaner' will work on cd's?
[08:25] <Lord_Maynoth> owner nothing is really hard with ubuntu
[08:25] <Lord_Maynoth> its just annoying
[08:25] <ProfQki> who can help me with hibernate problem?
[08:25] <chrisx1> poningru, ok
[08:25] <Lord_Maynoth> it took me over 3 weeks to get it the way I liked it
[08:25] <poningru> Dasnipa`: whats the prob?
[08:25] <Lord_Maynoth> thats insane... and no windows person is going to deal with that
[08:25] <Dasnipa`> poningru, nothing im commenting on Lord_Maynoth's question
[08:25] <poningru> oh
[08:25] <gnomefreak> Lord_Maynoth,  apt-get upgrade is hard for people that never used it before
[08:25] <poningru> ProfQki: whats wrong?
[08:26] <Lord_Maynoth> lol
[08:26] <owner989> maynoth, removing spyware from windows computer take a while too
[08:26] <poningru> what are we arguing about?
[08:26] <owner989> ive seen so many comps wrecked with spyware
[08:26] <Lord_Maynoth> yup.... still dodging the question
[08:26] <Lord_Maynoth> :P
[08:26] <Dasnipa`> why did it take 3 months? i had no clue what i was doing at first and it took a google searcha nd the first link had the line i needed to add my ntfs to fstab and it worked perfectly
[08:26] <owner989> but its a valid point
[08:26] <Biscuitian_Warhe> !ati
[08:26] <Lord_Maynoth> Dasnipa there were tons of little annoyances I had to fix
[08:27] <poningru> guys does gedit have autocomplition for c++?
[08:27] <ProfQki> poningru: after apt-get upgrade this morning when i resume after hibernation and i type the password it falls back to suspend
[08:27] <Lord_Maynoth> being able to play mp3s divx
[08:27] <topyli> anybody know a better bluetooth gui interface than gnome-bluetooth? (i don't want to install half of kde either)
[08:27] <Lord_Maynoth> home networking
[08:27] <Seveas> poningru, no
[08:27] <Lord_Maynoth> printer drivers
[08:27] <zeta> DrBair this is not a usb card reader
[08:27] <Lord_Maynoth> modem drivers
[08:27] <ubun-newbie> ** (gedit:7981): CRITICAL **: gedit_mdi_set_state: assertion `GEDIT_IS_MDI (mdi)' failed  how to fix this problem
[08:27] <ProfQki> poningru: till the upgrade it worked well
[08:27] <gnomefreak> :x
[08:27] <zeta> DrBair does that matter?
[08:27] <Lord_Maynoth> ntfs partitions
[08:27] <Seveas> ubun-newbie: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[08:27] <Lord_Maynoth> none of it was hard to do
[08:27] <owner989> i can play mp3s divx lord_maynoth
[08:27] <Lord_Maynoth> just time consuming to google
[08:27] <owner989> you just need the codecs
[08:27] <poningru> Seveas: do you know of a good text editor that does?
[08:27] <Lord_Maynoth> yeah you guys are so not even listening
[08:27] <Dasnipa`> time consuming to google... rofl
[08:27] <Seveas> poningru, no
[08:27] <owner989> lol dasnipa
[08:27] <Dasnipa`> read man pages much?
[08:27] <Lord_Maynoth> to the points being made or the questions being asked
[08:28] <Lord_Maynoth> yes it is easy
[08:28] <Seveas> Lord_Maynoth, if you simply looked at the wiki it would have taken mere hours
[08:28] <Seveas> or minutes
[08:28] <poningru> ProfQki: do you remember what was upgraded today?
[08:28] <Lord_Maynoth> but it takes weeks to configure
[08:28] <DrBair> zeta: what bus does it run on?
[08:28] <Millenniumgroup> damn so many posts about DD5.1 sound on the ubuntu forum :(
[08:28] <Lord_Maynoth> i disagree
[08:28] <Biscuitian_Warhe> I downloaded the ATI Xorg Driver from Synaptic, but everytime I try to fun fglrxconfig It wants to write to the XFree86 File.
[08:28] <Lord_Maynoth> totally
[08:28] <owner989> i agree seveas, ubuntu is a great learning tool
[08:28] <owner989> for linux newbies
[08:28] <ProfQki> poningru: just a minute
[08:28] <owner989> there is so much documentation
[08:28] <Lord_Maynoth> yes
[08:28] <sethk> Biscuitian_Warhe, and?
[08:28] <Lord_Maynoth> there are thousands of how to articles
[08:29] <poningru> owner989: I disagree there isnt enough
[08:29] <Lord_Maynoth> everyhthing is there
[08:29] <Seveas> Lord_Maynoth, disagree all you want, but don't blamu Ubuntu for you not being able to find things
[08:29] <Lord_Maynoth> everything you ever wanted to know
[08:29] <Biscuitian_Warhe> sethk: I've got Xorg. I downloaded the xorg one. Yet it keeps trying to write to that file
[08:29] <poningru> have you looked at gentoo documentation?
[08:29] <Lord_Maynoth> hey I am not seav
[08:29] <poningru> its sooo much better than ubuntu docs
[08:29] <Lord_Maynoth> just pointing out the obvious
[08:29] <sethk> Biscuitian_Warhe, and?  why do you think that's a problem?
[08:29] <zeta> DrBair checking now
[08:29] <Thunderguy> Is there an ubuntu program I could use or download to check the surface of a cd for unreadable areas due to scratches?
[08:29] <owner989> but gentoo takes much longer to setup
[08:29] <Seveas> Thunderguy, you can vrify the md5sum of the cd
[08:29] <Biscuitian_Warhe> sethk: I don't know how to configure xorg myself. But this won't do it either. So bleh.
[08:30] <jeed890> thunder guy just clean the discs
[08:30] <DrBair> zeta:  some of the internal ones are usb
[08:30] <sethk> Biscuitian_Warhe, writing xorg.conf _is_ configuring xorg
[08:30] <Lord_Maynoth> ubuntu needs a device manager with the ability to update and install new drivers,  it needs a .exe install system like autopackage, and it needs to autodetect and automount windows partitions out of box to apeal to windows morons
[08:30] <phiqtion> djk_: i have been appreciating you're help. how can i install a new programa to wine or winetools ?
[08:30] <Thunderguy> True, Seveas: The cd's from the factory have the same chksum as the cd's from the download site?
[08:30] <Lord_Maynoth> if windows morons is not your target base then it is working great!
[08:30] <Biscuitian_Warhe> sethk: Can you just tell me about !ati, so I can go to that one wiki... Lol
[08:30] <Lord_Maynoth> not sure why there is a disagreement
[08:30] <Seveas> Thunderguy, yes
[08:31] <Seveas> Thunderguy, and there is also md5sums.txt in the root of the cd
[08:31] <Thunderguy> k.
[08:31] <Seveas> Biscuitian_Warhe, wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[08:31] <Dasnipa`> 'windows morons' just need to learn to not be lazy and actually read man mages, and not think that google 'takes too much time'
[08:31] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Google is a great tool.
[08:31] <owner989> exactly dasnipa
[08:31] <owner989> thats why there is so much spyware and virus infected computers
[08:32] <poningru> Seveas: on the cd cant you press backspace at prompt?
[08:32] <UncleD> If I am using the LiveCD can I mkdir /home/media and create virtual space in memory?
[08:32] <Seveas> Dasnipa`, please don't use words as morons
[08:32] <Lord_Maynoth> I am not saying it is bad, or poorly documented.... it just takes more time digging through how to guides and being on the CLI than most windows users care to do
[08:32] <ProfQki> poningru: unfortunately i can't tell what i upgraded
[08:32] <DrBair> zeta: i need to do some stuff around the house before the wife figures out I've been a bum all day.  If you still need help you can PM me
[08:32] <zeta> DrBair its an internal usb
[08:32] <Dasnipa`> Seveas, i put it in quotes as i was using the wording that Lord_Maynoth used
[08:32] <jeed890> does anybody run xp and ubuntu 5.04 dual boot (grub)
[08:32] <zeta> DrBair i will try the guide
[08:32] <DrBair> zeta: ah ok, then that should work
[08:33] <Seveas> jeed890, I used tu
[08:33] <poningru> owner989: Dasnipa` Lord_Maynoth : no its not the users fault the software needs to mature enough to have almost zero learning curve, if the software is requiring reading 100's of pages of docs then it has failed
[08:33] <djk_> phiqtion: if you want to install a windows prog with wine type  wine name/of/the/program.exe to install it..
[08:33] <veryfunny> DrBair thanks
[08:33] <OneSeventeen> how do I set up multiple IP addresses on the same interface? (for web server purposes)
[08:33] <poningru> I am speaking about end user software
[08:33] <jeed890> could you help me plz then seveas because thats my problem
[08:33] <Lord_Maynoth> we agree then poningru
[08:33] <Seveas> Lord_Maynoth, learning linux is much much easier than learning windows
[08:33] <veryfunny> DrBair can this be used for an USB controller also?
[08:33] <djk_> phiqtion: of course you'll have to be in the dir of said exe or point to it..
[08:34] <ProfQki> OneSeventeen: you can make ethx:1 interface and give an ip for it
[08:34] <Lord_Maynoth> bwhahahaha    it will be in ten years if MS doesn't kill by then with frtiz chips
[08:34] <veryfunny> DrBair it is an old media box so it has buttons fro music, tv, camera, etc
[08:34] <ProfQki> OneSeventeen: for example ifconfig eth0:1 192.168.1.1
[08:34] <Seveas> Lord_Maynoth, blaming linuc for not having fritz drivers is ridiculous
[08:34] <zeta> DrBair it is an old media box so it has buttons fro music, tv, camera, etc
[08:34] <Lord_Maynoth> its taking too long to evolve into a cosumer level os, and the groundwork for trusted computing is being laid
[08:34] <zeta> DrBair can this be used for that card also?
[08:35] <Lord_Maynoth> straw man argument
[08:35] <Lord_Maynoth> :P
[08:35] <Millenniumgroup> Lord_Maynot  it needs a .exe install system like autopackage, and it needs to autodetect and automount windows partitions out of box to apeal to windows morons ......... clearly you can't be serious?
[08:35] <jeed890> can you @seveas?
[08:35] <Seveas> Lord_Maynoth, bullshit and please stop this highly irrelevant discussion
[08:35] <poningru> Lord_Maynoth: unfortunately you cannot straight up build a mature os it has to evolve
[08:35] <bshumate> treacherous computing is more like it
[08:35] <UncleD> If I am using the LiveCD can I mkdir /home/media and create virtual space in memory?
[08:35] <Seveas> Millenniumgroup, ewwww autopackage
[08:35] <DrBair> zeta: udev can be used to assign device names to pretty much anything, or force them as is the case now
[08:35] <Seveas> talk about crap...
[08:35] <Lord_Maynoth> oop ok
[08:35] <poningru> Lord_Maynoth: take a look at plasma and other things
[08:35] <Dasnipa`> well thats if microsoft survives after thier new OS flops, and google surpasses them in size and puts out a linux based google OS
[08:35] <BlueDevil> Seveas: hello, are you maintaining a repo with freenx?
[08:35] <Millenniumgroup> Seveas I was quoting Lord_Maynoth
[08:35] <UncleD> If I am using the LiveCD can I mkdir /home/media and create virtual space in memory? I need to mount /dev/hda1 using the LiveCD to fix a problem with ld-2.2.93.so
[08:35] <zeta> DrBair ok i will play with it
[08:35] <Lord_Maynoth> maybe i am wrong... but trusted computing is on its way
[08:35] <phiqtion> djk_: thanks
[08:36] <Lord_Maynoth> licences cost money
[08:36] <Seveas> enough of this nonsense alread
[08:36] <ProfQki> OneSeventeen: is it good for you?
[08:36] <bshumate> @Lord_Maynoth:  sometimes when you want to do something along the same lines, but differently, *you* have to change.  Linux does not work like windows, just like riding a horse, or bicycle will get you somewhere, but not in the same manner as driving a car.  *You* either adapt to using Linux the way Linux works, or just stick to being a "Windows Moron". ;-)
[08:36] <djk_> phiqtion: you're welcome.
[08:36] <poningru> ok guys this argument does not belong here
[08:36] <Seveas> please stop this irrelevant discussion or move to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:36] <Seveas> this is a support channel
[08:36] <Millenniumgroup> agreed let's stop this pointless argument, it's not going anywhere
[08:36] <poningru> yeah what the OP said
[08:36] <Seveas> and even though Lord_Maynoth needs support, that should be somewhere else ;)
[08:36] <Lord_Maynoth> and linux cannot be free and pay for licences for trusted computing if MS allows them to be licenced on the TP platform even
[08:36] <florg> hi. what is a good sound recording tools for GNOME? Like krec for KDE
[08:36] <Kyral> Take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:37] <BlueDevil> Seveas: do you or do you not
[08:37] <BlueDevil> ?
[08:37] <Seveas> BlueDevil, missed te question there
[08:37] <poningru> florg: you mean from the mic?
[08:37] <BlueDevil> Seveas: hello, are you maintaining a repo with freenx?
[08:37] <Seveas> yes I mainitain such a repository
[08:37] <Lord_Maynoth> gimme one strait answer and I will leave
[08:37] <florg> poningru: the line in
[08:37] <BlueDevil> the sun-jre package is inaccesible
[08:37] <jki> lord_maynoth: 42
[08:37] <Lord_Maynoth> do you guys think dapper drake will autodetect and automount ntfs partitions
[08:37] <Lord_Maynoth> yes or no
[08:37] <Dasnipa`> no
[08:37] <poningru> florg: yeah its sound recorder
[08:37] <Thunderguy> uh-oh md5sum didn't match on the cd I got in the mail :(
[08:37] <Seveas> Lord_Maynoth, breezy already does
[08:38] <BlueDevil> Seveas: the sun-jre package is inaccesible
[08:38] <Millenniumgroup> no
[08:38] <Lord_Maynoth> man sev dont tell me that
[08:38] <djk_> Seveas: i already told him that 20 mins ago....
[08:38] <BlueDevil> Seveas: 404 - forbidden
[08:38] <Seveas> BlueDevil, I know
[08:38] <Lord_Maynoth> I have installed it on 3 diff machines
[08:38] <florg> poningru: thx, i'll try it...
[08:38] <Lord_Maynoth> had to run a script on each one
[08:38] <Lord_Maynoth> to detect and set up ntfs partitions
[08:38] <poningru> florg: under sound&video in applications
[08:38] <BlueDevil> Seveas: on purpose?
[08:38] <Lord_Maynoth> amd/intel rigs
[08:38] <Seveas> BlueDevil, yup
[08:38] <florg> poningru: ok
[08:38] <gnomefreak> the only problem ive found with some of the extra repos so far is the gpg keys
[08:38] <phiqtion> djk_: wine is simulating windows 98 am i correct? so if i have a program like cakewalk kinetic it won't install in linux under wine correct?
[08:39] <phiqtion> djk_: because kinetic requires winxp
[08:39] <Lord_Maynoth> ok here is better question
[08:39] <Lord_Maynoth> IF
[08:39] <Seveas> phiqtion, winr can simulate 98 too
[08:39] <djk_> phiqtion: depends on what you set wine to, i think it starts at windows 2.0 and ends at 2003..
[08:39] <unimatrix9test> hello everyone
[08:39] <Lord_Maynoth> breezy is suposed to autodetect and automount partitions  why does it not do so?
[08:39] <Seveas> Lord_Maynoth, I already told you to take this elsewheere
[08:39] <Lord_Maynoth> :P
[08:39] <poningru> Seveas: perhaps its time to consider kb Lord_Maynoth
[08:39] <phiqtion> djk_: how can i change it
[08:39] <poningru> just a suggestion
[08:40] <djk_> phiqtion: with winetools
[08:40] <djk_> phiqtion: there's an option somewhere..
[08:40] <Lord_Maynoth> sec just ban me for asking a legit question like you did last time for saying autopackage worked ok for me with gaim 1.5 under hoary
[08:40] <jag_fsf> so anybody know of somebody who has put together updated media packages with gstreamer 0.10? i'd love to try it out...
[08:40] <djk_> phiqtion: type winetools in a terminal and look around.
[08:40] <Seveas> Lord_Maynoth, that's your definition of OK
[08:40] <Seveas> but I remember now, you were here before
[08:41] <Seveas> being just as annoying
[08:41] <gnomefreak> damn Seveas  that was fast
[08:41] <phiqtion> djk_: im looking and dont see any option
[08:41] <phiqtion> djk_: ok got it bro
[08:41] <OneSeventeen> ProfQki: sorry, boss came in and had a question, that looks good, so would that basically modify my /network/interfaces file and add the new virtual interface with its own IP?
[08:41] <ddew|bofh> Hey
[08:41] <BlueDevil> Seveas: then could you please remove it from the list?
[08:41] <djk_> phiqtion: Modify Wine Configuration
[08:41] <Seveas> BlueDevil, no ;)
[08:42] <Jxpx> maxi
[08:42] <Seveas> BlueDevil, mind if I send you a private message?
[08:42] <ddew|bofh> Anyone here running breezy on a powermac g5?
[08:42] <OneSeventeen> ProfQki: and does that mean I could also do ifconfig eth0:2 192.168.1.2 and ifconfig eth0:3 192.168.1.3 ?
[08:42] <BlueDevil> Seveas: by all means..
[08:42] <BlueDevil> go ahead
[08:42] <Agiofws> root@active:/ # /etc/init.d/ssh start  ; * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server..  ...fail!    Inned some help please
[08:42] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Hi, I compiled ALSA 1.09 like I do everytime I install Hoary, but for some reason at the end of running alsaconf in spits out that the card id isn't valid, and it won't finish setting up the card
[08:43] <TTilus> I burned data DVD with couple of 1+Gb files.  It works fine on the machine it was burned.  Another Linux box having same make and age DVD drive shows only 8-11Mb files, otherwise things work.  Any suggestions what eats up the file tails?
[08:43] <bthornton> how would I find out which package contains the 'strings' command?  either that, or which package contains the 'strings' command?
[08:43] <Agiofws> root@active:/ # /etc/init.d/ssh start  ; * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server..  ...fail!    Inned some help please
[08:43] <Agiofws> ?
[08:43] <jag_fsf> Agiofws: what does /var/log/messages say?
[08:43] <TTilus> bronson: do you _have_ the strings already?
[08:43] <Seveas> Agiofws, and /var/log/daemon.log
[08:43] <Agiofws> root@active:/ # /etc/init.d/ssh start  ; * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server..  ...fail!    I need some help please how do you start an ssh server on ubuntu
[08:43] <ompaul> Agiofws, I was going to ask you but you asked twice so now I have to tell you to take it easy please
[08:43] <Chrizz> hi, hope some1 can help me.... running my ubuntu comp without monitor, just controlling it with VNC but the resolution is set to 640x480 and i can't put it any higher.... any1 got an idea??
[08:43] <TTilus> bronson: sorry, wrong guy
[08:43] <rosa> hi!is there a possiblity for installing CAMFROG into ubuntu that works?
[08:43] <Agiofws> ok  ompaul
[08:44] <TTilus> bthornton: do you _have_ the strings already?
[08:44] <bthornton> TTilus: Well, if I do, it's not in the $PATH.
[08:44] <UncleD> Can someone help me? Im trying to save my other box!! I need to know, if I boot up with the LiveCD can I do: mkdir /home/media  and then sudo mount /dev/hda1 /home/media
[08:44] <TTilus> bthornton: if you do, which strings gives you the file
[08:44] <unimatrix9test> lots of questions...
[08:44] <TTilus> bthornton: search package containing file named strings
[08:44] <TTilus> bthornton: packages.debian.org
[08:45] <unimatrix9test> UncleD : mkdir /mnt/hda1
[08:45] <ompaul> Agiofws, did you check var log messages to see what it complained about? (like all the nice people asked?)
[08:45] <bthornton> TTilus: thanks
[08:45] <gnomefreak> packages.ubuntu.com works too :)
[08:45] <TTilus> gnomefreak: whoa, good to know, thnx
[08:45] <unimatrix9test> Then mount -t (filesystem) -o umask=0000 /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1
[08:46] <Agiofws> ompaul,  i think its workind
[08:46] <gnomefreak> yw was just thinking for the people that are using ubuntu not debian thats all
[08:46] <ompaul> Agiofws, ssh -C your_username@localhost
[08:46] <unimatrix9test> for example mount -t ntfs
[08:46] <ddew|bofh> Is there a channel for ppc users on ubuntu?
[08:46] <Agiofws> ompaul,  wjat does -C do again ?
[08:46] <jag_fsf> so anybody know of somebody who has put together updated media packages with gstreamer 0.10? i'd love to try it out...
[08:46] <Agiofws> compress?
[08:46] <eedge> I'm networked through a switch to another windows station... All internet is going through that station (and working) but when I do sudo mii-tool eth0
[08:46] <eedge>  I get eth0: 10 Mbit, half duplex, no link.
[08:46] <UncleD> unimatrix9test - the error I get when I try that command is: You must be root to use this command (mount) - im using the LiveCD
[08:47] <ompaul> Agiofws, exactly
[08:47] <jag_fsf> UncleD : prefix the command with sudo
[08:47] <Agiofws> ok
[08:47] <unimatrix9test> UncleD ; sudo passwd
[08:47] <Agiofws> its faster ompaul ?
[08:47] <unimatrix9test> type new password
[08:47] <unimatrix9test> for root
[08:47] <unimatrix9test> :)
[08:47] <UncleD> so sudo passwd
[08:47] <UncleD> then enter a new pass?
[08:47] <UncleD> then su?
[08:48] <Seveas> UncleD, no
[08:48] <kbrooks> wait wait
[08:48] <Seveas> just 'sudo mount'
[08:48] <jag_fsf> or just sudo mount -t ...
[08:48] <Seveas> don't set a root password, you don't need it on Ubuntu
[08:48] <UncleD> so do this:
[08:48] <UncleD> sudo mkdir /mnt/hda1
[08:48] <UncleD> sudo mount -t (filesystem) -o umask=0000 /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1
[08:48] <ompaul> Agiofws, exactly
[08:48] <Seveas> UncleD, yeah
[08:48] <unimatrix9test> yeah ....
[08:48] <unimatrix9test> :P
[08:48] <UncleD> what actually goes in the place of (filesystem) ?
[08:48] <kbrooks> UncleD, there is NO password in root, and you dont need it except in special cases
[08:48] <jag_fsf> depends.
[08:48] <bthornton> This is a long shot, but would anybody here happen to have any experience with installing Maple 10 in Linux?
[08:49] <jag_fsf> uncled: where did the filesystem come from?
[08:49] <jag_fsf> uncled: windows? mac? linux? bsd?
[08:49] <UncleD> its linux
[08:49] <UncleD> what happened is its a rh8 box
[08:49] <jag_fsf> uncled: then try ext3
[08:49] <jag_fsf> uncled: if not, ext2
[08:49] <UncleD> and the library ld-2.2.93.so got destroyed
[08:49] <ni1s> Ive desided to leave Ubuntu behind me
[08:49] <kbrooks> UncleD, you'll want mount -t auto
[08:49] <UncleD> so the box wont even boot up
[08:49] <kbrooks> UncleD, use auto. mount will guess for you
[08:50] <Seveas> hehe, ld-*.so is indeed very neccessary
[08:50] <UncleD> sudo mount -t auto /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 ?
[08:50] <kbrooks> UncleD, yes
[08:50] <Millenniumgroup> kbrooks, now im confused
[08:50] <kbrooks> Millenniumgroup, about what?
[08:50] <ni1s> Ive got a nice custom kernel built, a new found love for enlightenment and the knowlage to leave it all behind me
[08:50] <Millenniumgroup> how do you get ROOT access without using sudo command? when ever I use sudo or sudo su (im always prompted for a password)
[08:51] <Kyral> Millenniumgroup: you don't
[08:51] <jag_fsf> millenniumgroup: you don't.
[08:51] <zon7> hi there
[08:51] <ni1s> No distro has enabled me to learn asmuch as Ubuntu did
[08:51] <clauz> heh
[08:51] <Kyral> there is a reason for this
[08:51] <clauz> claus@claus:~$ sudo mount -t auto /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
[08:51] <clauz> claus@claus:~$ cd /media/sda/
[08:51] <clauz> bash: cd: /media/sda/: Permission denied
[08:51] <kbrooks> Millenniumgroup, don't do so except in special cases
[08:51] <kbrooks> clauz, by design
[08:51] <FrdPrefct> Hello
[08:51] <zon7> i have a widescreen acer and I want to have widescreen suport in console mode. any help?
[08:51] <FrdPrefct> Where can I get the deb-make package for breezy?
[08:51] <Millenniumgroup> kbrooks,sorry m8 I missread your statement :)
[08:51] <unimatrix9test> wanto install ubuntu ,and no internet acces, are there iso' s for extra packages for ubuntu?
[08:51] <kbrooks> clauz, you created /media/sda1 as root
[08:51] <Millenniumgroup> im new, started usinb linux 2 months ago :)
[08:51] <Kyral> zon7: what is the resolution on the screen?
[08:51] <unimatrix9test> its for an school
[08:52] <zon7> 1280x800
[08:52] <ompaul> Millenniumgroup, you don't have to do sudo -i / -s / su that is not the way to use sudo - the way to do it is when a command needs root is invoke sudo - so you don't end up using root access for cd /some/path or pwd or something else
[08:52] <owner989> milleniumgroup thats no longer new lol
[08:52] <vbgunz> Millenniumgroup: You'll learn to love that password one day...!
[08:52] <|Waters|of|Hell|> I've never used Ubuntu before :(
[08:52] <Kyral> Millenniumgroup: do what I do
[08:52] <Kyral> make bash aliases for you most often sudo'd commands (Apt-Get comes to mind)
[08:52] <ompaul> Millenniumgroup, sudo is ohh 24 or 25 years old at this stage
[08:52] <eedge> I'm networked through a switch to another windows station... All internet is going through that station (and working) but when I do sudo mii-tool eth0
[08:52] <eedge>  I get eth0: 10 Mbit, half duplex, no link.
[08:52] <gnomefreak> |Waters|of|Hell|,  you shoudl try it sometime
[08:53] <ompaul> gnomefreak, s/should/must :-)))
[08:53] <Millenniumgroup> owner, well ok ;)   hmm I see ompaul...
[08:53] <unimatrix9test> are there iso's for extra packages for ubuntu acces to all sources without internet?
[08:53] <clauz> kbrooks, no
[08:53] <Millenniumgroup> interesting
[08:53] <FrdPrefct> Anyone know where I can get the deb-make package?
[08:53] <Chrizz> hi, hope some1 can help me.... running my ubuntu comp without monitor, just controlling it with VNC but the resolution is set to 640x480 and i can't put it any higher.... any1 got an idea??
[08:53] <|Waters|of|Hell|> gnome, how did you make your text yellow on my screen ?
[08:53] <poningru> unimatrix9test: its in the works
[08:53] <poningru> unimatrix9test: not availble yet
[08:53] <owner989> |Waters|of|Hell| you should try ubuntu you wont be disappointed
[08:53] <navarone> FrdPrefct, I think you need build-essentials
[08:53] <kbrooks> clauz, sudo mkdir /foo # this does
[08:53] <unimatrix9test> ok thanks for the info
[08:53] <gnomefreak> unimatrix9test,  you cant access the sources without a net connection to get packages
[08:53] <unimatrix9test> when is it due?
[08:53] <ompaul> |Waters|of|Hell|, like this where I use your name ????
[08:54] <zon7> kyral: Any help?
[08:54] <kbrooks> gnomefreak, incorrect
[08:54] <clauz> kbrooks, ntfs mount specific
[08:54] <Kyral> Well I dunno about widescreen
[08:54] <kbrooks> gnomefreak, may be deb-src on the cd
[08:54] <halibut> Are there any gmail + firefox1.5 users who would like to test my ubuntu skin for gmail?
[08:54] <owner989> chrizz what video card do you have
[08:54] <Kyral> but to force the resolution
[08:54] <gnomefreak> |Waters|of|Hell|, i didnt its your irc client
[08:54] <Millenniumgroup> tx for the info ompaul, kyral,jag_fsf and vbunz :)
[08:54] <gnomefreak> kbrooks,  when he stated sources i was thinking sources no tthe cd source
[08:54] <|Waters|of|Hell|> gnomefreak: ohd
[08:54] <|Waters|of|Hell|> oh*
[08:54] <ompaul> Millenniumgroup, join the big happy club :-)
[08:55] <Kyral> You'd have to lookup the hexcode for the resolution which I have no idea what it is
[08:55] <|Waters|of|Hell|> Sorry can you tell, noob here.
[08:55] <navarone> |Waters|of|Hell|, your client indicates a line with your nick in it by colouring it a shade you specify in preferences
[08:55] <Millenniumgroup> :D
[08:55] <Kyral> I only know that 1200x1024 is 0x31B
[08:55] <william_> hey guys, what program should I use to burn a .bin and a .cue file??
[08:55] <zon7> ok
[08:55] <zon7> gonna search over the net
[08:55] <unimatrix9test> k3b
[08:55] <Chrizz> (owner989): nvidia geforce 2 mx, drivers installed
[08:55] <|Waters|of|Hell|> I'm using Irssi :)
[08:55] <Kyral> zon7: I believe the Gentoo Wiki has a table
[08:55] <owner989> did you try running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg chrizz
[08:55] <korhalf> william_, k3b
[08:56] <poningru> william_: either k3b or gnomebaker
[08:56] <clauz> kbrooks, umase=0222 =)
[08:56] <|Waters|of|Hell|> Don't ask why
[08:56] <william_> well gnome baker wont let me do .bin and .cue
[08:56] <william_> only .iso I think
[08:56] <UncleD> what is the standard floppy /dev/fd* for ubuntu using the LiveCD?
[08:56] <poningru> william_: hmm yeah k3b then
[08:56] <FrdPrefct> navarone : Already got that installed
[08:56] <Seveas> william_, bchunk can convert it to iso for you
[08:57] <poningru> wait why doesnt gnomebaker have .bin/.cue support?
[08:57] <poningru> thats lame
[08:57] <Kyral> because k3b is better
[08:57] <poningru> its the gnome answer to burning
[08:57] <william_> ahh I got it.. I had tried k3b before but it gave me some cdrdao error but I just tried it again
[08:57] <william_> and it works
[08:57] <unimatrix9test> lame is an other package
[08:57] <unimatrix9test> lol
[08:57] <Seveas> poningru, according to william_ not :)
[08:57] <Seveas> unimatrix9test, :p
[08:57] <Kyral> Still, k3b is better
[08:57] <william_> yeah it only said .iso for burning images
[08:58] <Kyral> I run Fluxbox and still use k3b
[08:58] <unimatrix9test> i run gnome with k3b no problem here
[08:58] <Seveas> !help
[08:58] <Tony_Sidaway> Help message
[08:59] <unimatrix9test> is there any one here that use ubuntu in an primary school?
[08:59] <FrdPrefct> anyone else have suggestions as to where I can get deb-make for breezy?
[08:59] <Kyral> Learn how to make a Debian package the right way
[08:59] <Seveas> !find deb-make
[08:59] <Seveas> ah crap, the thing is gone
[09:00] <poningru> where's Ubotu?
[09:00] <Seveas> -ENOCLUE
[09:00] <Seveas> he and cafuego are AWOL
[09:00] <Chrizz> owner989 nothin seems to happen....
[09:00] <ompaul> unimatrix9test, have a look at gcompris and edubuntu as a starting point
[09:01] <navarone> gcompris is quite good
[09:01] <UncleD> unimatrix9test - is /dev/fd0 the floppy drive on ubuntu for LiveCD?
[09:01] <flodine> does anyone have arwiz font installed on breezy? need help
[09:01] <unimatrix9test> yes
[09:01] <flodine> artwiz
[09:01] <owner989> chrizz it should do
[09:02] <owner989> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:02] <owner989> in terminal
[09:02] <Chrizz> terminal does nothin
[09:02] <Chrizz> yep, but now nothin :S
[09:02] <owner989> you are using breezy
[09:02] <owner989> 5.10
[09:02] <Chrizz> yes
[09:03] <vbgunz> what is the command to upgrade cleanly from Hoary 5.04 to Breezy 5.10? Is it it sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[09:03] <veryfunny> is it possible that my DVD burner dosent have a driver?
[09:03] <veryfunny> and thats why it wont mount anything?
[09:04] <ompaul> veryfunny, put a CD into it and see if it sees it
[09:04] <veryfunny> it doesnt see any discs
[09:04] <unimatrix9test> an data dvd
[09:04] <ompaul> veryfunny, is it wired up correctly?
[09:04] <unimatrix9test> not an movie
[09:04] <veryfunny> data dvd
[09:04] <veryfunny> let me try that
[09:04] <ompaul> veryfunny, I am suggesting a music CD
[09:05] <Chrizz> owner989 can i maybe force a resolution?
[09:05] <veryfunny> it is wired as the amster, with IDE jumpers in the master slot
[09:05] <veryfunny> Audio Cds dont work
[09:05] <chechu> Hello,Help Spanish ?
[09:05] <veryfunny> DVD movies neither
[09:05] <unimatrix9test> data?
[09:05] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell vbgunz about upgrade
[09:05] <ompaul> veryfunny, so it sees nothing
[09:05] <gnomefreak> :(
[09:05] <veryfunny> ompaul nope
[09:05] <gnomefreak> who killed ubotu??? :(
[09:06] <chrisx1> Does amsn work on ubuntu
[09:06] <chrisx1> ?
[09:06] <owner989> chrizz you can manually edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:06] <gnomefreak> chechu,  spanish is at #ubuntu-es
[09:06] <veryfunny> ompaul it is a phillips
[09:06] <vbgunz> !upgrade
[09:06] <chechu> gnomefreak,  thank you
[09:06] <gnomefreak> vbgunz, ubotu isnt here or broken
[09:06] <vbgunz> gnomefreak: yup ubotu is dead...
[09:07] <veryfunny> ompaul model number DVD8301/44 i think
[09:07] <chrisx1> Does amsn or Kopete work on ubuntu
[09:07] <vbgunz> isn't it simple or no? I thought sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:07] <unimatrix9test> veryfunny : what does dmesg say?
[09:07] <Kyral> chrisx1: yes
[09:07] <gnomefreak> chrisx1, yes both do
[09:07] <unimatrix9test> amsn or kopete , use gaim?
[09:07] <Kyral> chrisx1: why wouldn't they :P
[09:07] <unimatrix9test> its already there...
[09:07] <phyburn> hey im having trouble talking with my drive i keep getting I/O errors
[09:07] <chrisx1> gaim is crap
[09:07] <gnomefreak> i personally rather use gaim but thats just me
[09:08] <chrisx1> dp dnt work:(
[09:08] <chrisx1> lolz
[09:08] <ompaul> veryfunny, do this >>cat /etc/fstab<< and tell me is there more than one entry for /media/cdrom
[09:08] <unimatrix9test> there is an platform independent amsn, so if all fails
[09:08] <unimatrix9test> you can use that...
[09:08] <chrisx1> ok
[09:08] <unimatrix9test> google amsn
[09:08] <phyburn> hey im having trouble talking with my drive i keep getting I/O errors and wanted to know if there was some reason that having linux already on the drive that it would mess up fdisk to where it could not read my drive and wont let me edit it
[09:08] <veryfunny> dmesg says >>> http://pastebin.com/451348
[09:09] <phiqtion> im trying to cd in the wine program files folder. but terminal stops in Program and does not read Program Files. terminal doesnt read spaces?
[09:09] <unimatrix9test> i used it an lot on an live knoppix cd
[09:09] <unimatrix9test> then run amsn from usb stick..
[09:09] <owner989> phiq did you run winecfg
[09:09] <veryfunny> ompaul there are two /media/cdrom S
[09:09] <Seveas> phiqtion, cd Program\ Files
[09:09] <phiqtion> owner989: i have wintools. that is for?
[09:09] <veryfunny> ompaul one is hdd the other hdc
[09:09] <owner989> i recommend running winecfg
[09:09] <owner989> and autodetect drives
[09:10] <varsendagger> hey has anyone gotten e17 working for ubuntu?
[09:10] <veryfunny> ompaul i have tried the fstab route to no avail
[09:10] <TTilus> I cant get DMA enabled on my dvd-drive.  Web tells me I propably dont have support for my chipset loaded.  How do I manage kernel modules in Ubuntu?  In Debian I use modconf, but it looks like it is not workin (doesnt list any modules).
[09:10] <ompaul> veryfunny, fstab route?
[09:10] <veryfunny> ompaul and thats what leads me to drivers
[09:10] <veryfunny> ompaul, frogzoo had me retype the fstab, etc
[09:11] <veryfunny> ompaul that didnt help
[09:11] <veryfunny> ompaul still sees nothing
[09:11] <varsendagger> TTilus, i don't know
[09:11] <chrisb> anyone know where I can dump "mknod /dev/i2c-4 c 89 4" so my keyboard light works every time I boot the machine? Right now I have to do it each time I boot...
[09:11] <CarinArr> hi, i get error messages from ld saying it can't find -lGlu.. I seem to have the mesa stuff installed.. is there anything else i need to do?
[09:12] <ompaul> reboot it and see if it is there if it is not then it is not detected which is very strange, I would pull the box apart and make sure it was not on cable select - even try booting from the dvd with your livecd
[09:12] <veryfunny> ompaul the very bottom of this dmesg has a lot of FAILs in it might that be the culprit drive  >> link ::  http://pastebin.com/451348
[09:13] <bushito> how can i pass from ubuntu to kubuntu???
[09:13] <veryfunny> ompaul it is not on cable select i know that
[09:13] <owner989> you could just install kde bushito
[09:13] <N6REJ> what would be the best way to print to another printer on the lan when both systems are running ubuntu?
[09:13] <veryfunny> ompaul i just rebooted before coming on here so...
[09:13] <gnomefreak> veryfunny, is that with a cd rom in it?
[09:14] <eedge> I'm networked through a switch to another windows station... All internet is going through that station (and working) but when I do sudo mii-tool eth0
[09:14] <ompaul> try the eject command
[09:14] <eedge>  I get eth0: 10 Mbit, half duplex, no link.
[09:14] <veryfunny> gnomefreak reboot with the live cd in?
[09:14] <navarone> bushito, install kde-desktop and then you can change thru "sessions" when you log in
[09:14] <eedge> I swear I'm invisable :P
[09:14] <bushito> hehehe but is the source package of ubuntu same as kubuntu, i mean if i dont got to change the apt-get source file list?
[09:14] <eedge> lol
[09:14] <gnomefreak> veryfunny,  the errors are with or without cd rom in the drive?
[09:14] <veryfunny> ompaul eject opens the drive
[09:14] <ompaul> very is there anything in there?
[09:14] <veryfunny> gnome freak that dmesg was with a cd in
[09:15] <veryfunny> ompaul yes an audio cd
[09:15] <gnomefreak> veryfunny,  try another cd for the hell of it see if you get errors like that
[09:15] <ompaul> veryfunny, please try a different audiocd
[09:15] <veryfunny> ompaul any requests? =)
[09:15] <phyburn> does any one know what i can do about `unable to read /dev/hda` what should i do
[09:15] <ompaul> veryfunny, then launch applications sound cdplayer
[09:16] <gnomefreak> whitezombie if you got it :)
[09:16] <bwlang> phyburn: try again with sudo ?
[09:17] <veryfunny> ompaul Foreigner in the drive cdplayer says no disc
[09:17] <rubem> hi there
[09:17] <phyburn> bwlang i think its in root i see the # sign
[09:17] <rubem> which msn clients do you use?:
[09:17] <ompaul> veryfunny, I am stumped
[09:17] <phyburn> bwlang im booting off the CD it does not even have sudo
[09:17] <rubem> i'm looking for a good msn client
[09:18] <UncleD> use centericq
[09:18] <veryfunny> ompaul you are not the first one to be
[09:18] <eedge> I'm networked through a switch to another windows station... All internet is going through that station (and working) but when I do sudo mii-tool eth0
[09:18] <eedge>  I get eth0: 10 Mbit, half duplex, no link.
[09:18] <varsendagger> rubem i use gaim,
[09:18] <navarone> rubem, I think gaim can handle msn...? But don't quote me on that
[09:18] <veryfunny> ompaul i am going to reboot with livecd in
[09:18] <rubem> gaim is not good, imho
[09:18] <bwlang> phyburn - didn't know it was booted from cd... what does fdisk -l /dev/hda say?
[09:18] <varsendagger> hey is there some kind of trillian for linux?
[09:19] <navarone> I was just thinking the same thing varsendagger
[09:19] <Seveas> varsendagger, gaim
[09:19] <bwlang> phyburn: also do a dmesg | grep hda to be sure that the drive was detected
[09:19] <phyburn> bwlang i hole bunch of nothing lol
[09:19] <Seveas> trillian is -- scary
[09:19] <bwlang> varsendagger: gaim...
[09:19] <troinc> i'm using gaim's jabber side to handle my google talk, but it won't stay connected more 10mins
[09:19] <rubem> do you use amns?
[09:20] <bwlang> phyburn: so you have no parition table...
[09:20] <troinc> ?
[09:20] <pder> I TRY THE UBUNTU AND IT ARE DUMB IT DO NOT SUPPORT COMPUTER BECAUSE IT ARE DUMB
[09:20] <phyburn> bwlang : ok it just spammed a hole spew of stuff
[09:20] <phyburn> bwland: the last one was buffer I/O error on device hda, logic block 14
[09:20] <bushito> hello
[09:21] <troinc> howdy
[09:21] <eedge> lo
[09:21] <varsendagger> does gaim allow me to be signed into multiple messengers?
[09:21] <troinc> yep
[09:21] <Seveas> varsendagger, yes
[09:21] <eedge> I'm networked through a switch to another windows station... All internet is going through that station (and working) but when I do sudo mii-tool eth0
[09:21] <varsendagger> well then it gets my thumb up
[09:21] <eedge>  I get eth0: 10 Mbit, half duplex, no link.
[09:21] <bwlang> phyburn: hmm sounds like maybe a bad drive? try running the drive check from the manufacturer...
[09:21] <phyburn> bwlang: yea im trying to partition it it ran once and then just crashed on me and now from then on its not working
[09:21] <bushito> hey i got a kubuntu CD, and it gots KDE, how can i install the package without having to download it?, cuase i select it to install and it starts downloading but duh i got it already oin the cd cant it just install it??
[09:22] <phyburn> bwlang: ok
[09:22] <Seveas> bushito, insert the cd, sudo apt-cd add, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:22] <bthornton> What's a good editor that will let me edit large (i.e. >100M) files without needing load the whole file?  I'm trying to edit an installer script stub on a large installation binary.
[09:22] <eedge> Erm, am I like not voiced or something?
[09:22] <Chrizz> owner989 http://pastebin.com/451363 thats my conf but bigger resolutions are alrdy in there...
[09:22] <eedge> heh
[09:23] <Seveas> eedge, no
[09:23] <Kyral> bushito: the installer downloads the packages if it detects an usable internet conn
[09:23] <Seveas> well, not anymore :)
[09:24] <bwlang> bthornton: sed? dunno if the graphical editors load partials... - probably emacs does...
[09:24] <eedge> o... k... lol
[09:24] <_tim__> i just installed ubuntu on a new computer and now it doesnt work and now we have to throw out the computer and my dada is mad cause we just bought it and now it is ruined please help
[09:24] <[[kon] > hi
[09:24] <bwlang> _tim__: are you kidding?
[09:24] <bthornton> bwland: yeah I've so far tried vi and gedit, and they both want to load the whole thing
[09:24] <Seveas> eedge, but if mii-{tool,diag} say you have no link, then you have no link
[09:24] <JayLv99> hey
[09:24] <eedge> but I do, clearly, becuase I'm talking to you right now through that said link.
[09:25] <Chousuke> _tim__: the computer is fine.
[09:25] <JayLv99> does anyone know how to disable wall or write on server for a network?
[09:25] <Chousuke> oh, bleh :P
[09:25] <eedge> which is what's confusing me...
[09:25] <[[kon] > im trying to do a non local vnc connection, i have the server ip and it doesnt seem to work
[09:25] <Seveas> Chousuke, his computer is, he is not
[09:25] <kbrooks> Seveas, who did you ban
[09:25] <eedge> Really all I'm trying to get to work in file sharing from the windows station to the linux client.
[09:25] <Seveas> kbrooks, that was pder again
[09:25] <troinc> (kon) do yoiu have vnc server on the other machine
[09:25] <kbrooks> Seveas, who is pder? care to show me
[09:25] <Seveas> eedge, all the switch/network card lights are burning?
[09:26] <Seveas> kbrooks, /lastlog pder
[09:26] <bushito> Kyral, but how can i make it get it from the cd already tried the sudo apt-cd install but it doesnt got the apt-cd what can i do?? xD
[09:26] <Pballer82> hello i'm  currently installing on my other comp, should i make the partition logical or primary. I'm installing linux as a second os and i want to keep windows xp intact
[09:27] <veryfunny> ompaul it didn't boot the live CD
[09:27] <themuffenmann> livecd for ubuntu?
[09:27] <veryfunny> yes
[09:27] <themuffenmann> ah..i dunno..never made one myself
[09:27] <themuffenmann> only slackware
[09:27] <Pballer82> hey which type of partiton should i make on my HD, i have unallocated space should it be primary or logical?
[09:27] <sbk> Have a silly question. Assuming there isn't a runaway memory-hogging process acitve, will adding more swap space reduce the odds of the oom-killer being triggered?
[09:27] <kilgost> bonsoir tt le monde
[09:27] <Seveas> Pballer82, linux does not care :O)
[09:28] <[[kon] > pballer82, logical for swap space, primary for space
[09:28] <Pballer82> kk
[09:28] <kilgost> oups... sorry ...
[09:28] <veryfunny> my dvd burner doesnt see discs
[09:28] <ompaul> veryfunny, well now that is strange I would suggest posting that model number to the mailing list with a does anyone else have an issue with that (after first checking for such a post) then if no one says they actually have one consider it a bug
[09:28] <Seveas> kilgost, #ubuntu-fr svp ;)
[09:28] <kilgost> yes yes sry !
[09:28] <kilgost> bye..
[09:28] <veryfunny> ompaul where is this list?
[09:28] <veryfunny> !mailinglist
[09:28] <Seveas> veryfunny, ubotu is gone
[09:29] <ompaul> http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users is the list
[09:29] <veryfunny> darn
[09:29] <gnomefreak> i miss him :(
[09:29] <veryfunny> !long_live_ubotu
[09:29] <veryfunny> =)
[09:29] <ompaul> veryfunny,  you asked me and did not wait a minute - please if you ask slow down and allow others get the answer
[09:30] <veryfunny> ompaul, i was just checking to see if umbotu knew
[09:30] <veryfunny> ompaul, sorry
[09:31] <ompaul> you can ask me or the bot - but there is no bot so please wait - the bot is dead long live the bot!
[09:31] <singinmatt13> schroger's cat is dead too
[09:32] <gnomefreak> is someone re-programming ubotu or did we lose him for good?
[09:32] <veryfunny> many deaths =(
[09:32] <ompaul> singinmatt13, you lifted the lid? or are you just guessing based on duration?
[09:34] <selutha> i just installed a new video and sound card in to ubuntu, x wont start because the driver needs to be changed, what is the wizard thing to resetup sound and video on ubuntu? i could make the xorg file but i think the wiz would be much easier
[09:34] <Kyral> selutha: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:34] <selutha> Kyral, great thanks
[09:34] <singinmatt13> ompaul, I'm judgin on the fact that I killed the cat, and my name is Curiosity
[09:34] <veryfunny> is there an easier way to search the mailing list? or must i muttle through millions of pages
[09:35] <bwlang> veryfunny: gmane may have your mailing list...
[09:35] <ompaul> veryfunny, well I would use a search engine
[09:35] <veryfunny> bwlang ? huh?
[09:35] <veryfunny> ompaul duh wow i am a little slow today
[09:36] <ompaul> veryfunny, put in your model number and the list name and one or two other things like ubuntu with a + and see what happens
[09:36] <bwlang> veryfunny: gmane.com
[09:36] <ompaul> veryfunny, if you join that list be aware that it is very very busy but that is not for bug reporting just exploring to find out if it is you or a bug
[09:39] <veryfunny> ompaul i tried a couple searches and found nothing
[09:39] <veryfunny> i will mail later
[09:40] <ompaul> veryfunny, join the list send in your mail - read the others to see what the norm is for a request - then pop yours in and wait a day or so
[09:40] <ompaul> veryfunny, nothing in 3 days go for a bugreport so you want to know if anyone has one of these working okay
[09:41] <{aaron}> hi guys, what, if any, is the default JVM for Ubuntu...GCJ I'm guessing?
[09:43] <psycho> hi everybody !
[09:44] <lukus001> Can somone tell me what command i need to type in the terminal to locate myself into the root directory?
[09:44] <bwlang> lukus001: cd /
[09:44] <bwlang> lukus001: or if you mean root's home dir  cd /root
[09:45] <lukus001> bwlang, perfect, Thanks!
[09:45] <kbrooks> {aaron}, yes gcj
[09:45] <{aaron}> kbrooks: thanks
[09:46] <xiaogil> will we have mysql 5 and PHP5 in Drapper ?
[09:46] <poningru> when do they finish dev?
[09:46] <ompaul> xiaogil, april
[09:47] <ompaul> xiaogil, sorry that was a don't know
[09:47] <ompaul> poningru, april
[09:47] <ompaul> got mixed up
[09:47] <poningru> omaru: oh hehe I meant when do php and mysql finsih dev
[09:47] <poningru> not dapper
[09:48] <lukus001> Im trying to install this app http://www.3delight.com/renderman_download.htm < install intrsructions, but i get to the command "unsetenv DELIGHT" which is an unknown command...???
[09:48] <ompaul> xiaogil, watch the mailing list http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/dapper-changes
[09:48] <BlueDevil> lukus001: what shell are you using?
[09:48] <xiaogil> ompaul: thanks
[09:48] <gnomefreak> <<loves bash
[09:48] <lukus001> BlueDevil just the terminal from the main menu
[09:49] <BlueDevil> lukus001: you can try replacing unsetenv with unset
[09:49] <phu> does anyone know if KDE 3.5 is going to be backported to ubuntu 5.4?
[09:49] <Watje> Does anybody know if there is a program to see how much bandwith each proccess use?
[09:49] <gnomefreak> thats gnome terminal also bash i think
[09:49] <BlueDevil> lukus001: unsetenv is a (t)csh command
[09:50] <gnomefreak> 5.4?
[09:50] <lukus001> BlueDevil, ok ill give it a try, thanks
[09:50] <Anoop> hi
[09:50] <BlueDevil> lukus001: yw
[09:50] <gnomefreak> phu,  i doubt it
[09:50] <poningru> phu: no dont think so
[09:50] <Anoop> can anybody help me with some ubuntu prob i am having with my laptop
[09:50] <gearry> I am trying to add the multiverse repository using the instructions from the wiki, but they don't seem accurate
[09:50] <Kyral> shoot
[09:50] <Kyral> gearry: look in the /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:50] <gnomefreak> phu,  maybe if lucky they will backport it for 5.10 but also doubt it
[09:50] <Anoop> kyral u want to
[09:50] <SupIAmMike> Select count(ID) as countOfBar2 FROM FOO WHERE BAR="1"; Select count(ID) as countOfBar2 FROM FOO WHERE BAR="2"
[09:50] <gearry> the multiverse repository is not listed in my repository list
[09:50] <BlueDevil> Anoop: please state your problem
[09:51] <phu> gnomefreak: 5.4 == hoary
[09:51] <SupIAmMike> can i combine those 2 selects?
[09:51] <gearry> Kyral: ok, I will look there
[09:51] <lukus001> BlueDevil, if its a Csh command, would that mean the enxt command "source .3delight_csh" isnt gonna work?
[09:51] <Kyral> gearry: add it onto the lines that say universe
[09:51] <phu> it's already ported to 5.10
[09:51] <gnomefreak> phu,  yes i know
[09:51] <Anoop> ok...i installed breezy badger(5.10) in my toshiba m45-S355 laptop
[09:51] <Ishotweb> can someone help me out? trying to run a program with Wine and it's telling me "Application tries to create a window, but no driver could be loaded."
[09:51] <Seveas> SupIAmMike, WHERE BAR = "1" OR BAR = "2"
[09:51] <BlueDevil> lukus001: source is a valid bash command too
[09:51] <gnomefreak> phu, kde 3.5 isnt on breezy
[09:51] <Seveas> SupIAmMike, but highly offtopic in here
[09:51] <SupIAmMike> Seveas, but that will just give me 1 count of that
[09:52] <Anoop> what happend is while installed the dhcp couldn't configure my networking thing
[09:52] <SupIAmMike> it wont give me the counts seperately
[09:52] <Neurosis> I need help finding my root password for my ubuntu machine.  i havent been able to login to it since i have installed it
[09:52] <BlueDevil> SupIAmMike: try using join
[09:52] <gearry> Kyral: OK I will try that
[09:52] <SupIAmMike> oh whoops im not in #mysql
[09:52] <SupIAmMike> sorry i will leave
[09:52] <BlueDevil> Neurosis: sudo passwd root
[09:52] <Anoop> but when the installation was over and i activated both ethernet card and wireless both started working
[09:52] <Kyral> lol SupIAmMike
[09:52] <phu> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[09:52] <gnomefreak> phu,  i pretty sure they stopped backporting things for 5.04
[09:53] <Anoop> blue devil r u tracking my message?
[09:53] <lukus001> BlueDevil, thanks for the help =)
[09:53] <Neurosis> thank you very much blue
[09:53] <krayzie> hy yall
[09:53] <phu> so, yes, it's available for breezy
[09:53] <BlueDevil> Anoop: hold on, trying :)
[09:53] <krayzie> im new 2 this thing and i need some help pls
[09:53] <Anoop> k
[09:53] <Anoop> i see u r in demand
[09:54] <BlueDevil> Anoop: up to date :)
[09:54] <krayzie> i have a sb live 24 bit and i cant hear the sound
[09:54] <gnomefreak> phu, its avilable for kubuntu breezy not sure if for ubuntu breezy asnd if it was backported for ubuntu 5.10 thaqn 5.045 more than likely wont get it
[09:54] <krayzie> can sum1 help me_
[09:54] <Anoop> after the first reboot everything gets messed up and the during the boot process it gets stuck in config network interface
[09:54] <BlueDevil> Anoop: however it should have been able to detect the nics on install if it detected them after the install was finished...
[09:54] <SWAT> how can I burn a DVD with 1 file of 4GB? (so probably use UDF). K3b won't work (it can't 'add' the file, because it's too big...) Help?
[09:54] <Anoop> and then when i log in thats it nothing works
[09:55] <Anoop> i tried reinstalling and same old thing
[09:55] <gismo1> hi, i've problems with playing an avi-video-file with totem, he says something like: 'could not determine the type of the data stream'.. i installed all needed plugins.. :(
[09:55] <Anoop> works for the first time then gone
[09:55] <funktown> SWAT -- 4GB is way too big for a dvd file on cd.. try to lower the quality and encoding a tad
[09:55] <Anoop> i don't know why it can't configure while installing
[09:55] <BlueDevil> Anoop: please "cat /etc/network/interfaces" in a query to me
[09:55] <SWAT> funktown, I'm using DVD's atm (so it's fine)
[09:56] <Anoop> hold on
[09:56] <gismo1> can anyone help me?
[09:56] <funktown> ooh.. i always put them on cds.. im cheap =P
[09:56] <bor> SWAT: use mkisofs with -udf option
[09:56] <SWAT> DVD are cheaper (if you calculate price per GB)
[09:56] <noen> hi - can anybody explain how I can install programs on my new ubuntu system (I am a total linux newbee)
[09:56] <chrisx1> how do i change time usin ubuntu timeserver in terminal?
[09:56] <Mazin> go to the synaptic package manager
[09:56] <SWAT> bor, thanks, I'll give it a try. Then burn with dvdrecord?
[09:56] <Kyral> chrisx1: youmean NTP?
[09:56] <phoul> Hey im trying to get gtkgnutella working
[09:56] <gnomefreak> noen, use synaptic package manager
[09:56] <Mazin> to install progs, should be in the toolbar at top
[09:56] <phoul> But when i search up something nothing happens
[09:56] <bor> SWAT: yepp
[09:56] <phoul> any ideas?
[09:56] <chrisx1> Kyral, Yes
[09:57] <Kyral> chrisx1: sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com
[09:57] <funktown> phout.. make sure you're connected
[09:57] <phoul> How?
[09:57] <Mazin> noen, then search for progs and mark them for download
[09:57] <bor> SWAT: somelike easier is 'growisofs'
[09:57] <chrisx1> ty
[09:57] <Anoop> mapping hotplug script grep map eth0 iface lo inet loopback iface eth0 inet dhcp auto lo auto eth0
[09:57] <funktown> see the bar on the left side of the interface? labelled "Connections" ?
[09:57] <phoul> ohh funktown in the bottom left it shows im connected
[09:57] <Anoop> blue for the time being i have disabled the wireless thing
[09:57] <phoul> Any other ideas?
[09:57] <Anoop> i want the ethernet to work first
[09:57] <bor> SWAT: you need only to do growisofs -Z /dev/dvd -dvd-video /path/to/file
[09:57] <noen> ok one moment Ill try that
[09:57] <Anoop> and i am at my work place
[09:57] <funktown> phoul.. when you search, make sure you click your query in the search box to view the results
[09:57] <gismo1> here's the output when i'm starting it with mplayer http://freebsd6.homeunix.org/~kacper/output
[09:58] <Anoop> it has secured wireless which i have no access
[09:58] <bor> eh, s,dvd-vide,udf, of course
[09:58] <Anoop> just 30mins before i worked then one reboot everything gone
[09:58] <phoul> Did that to funk
[09:58] <BlueDevil> anoop: ifconfig eth0 in a pm
[09:58] <phoul> in the top right
[09:58] <phoul> It says
[09:58] <phoul> You appear to be firewalled or somethin
[09:59] <Techie_dude> How do i open a program in WIne?
[09:59] <neighborlee> hi..has anyone tried the livecd/installer and found getting livecd enviornment was a vvvvery long boot ?? ( want to make sure its not my cdrom drive)
[09:59] <noen> mazin -  I am looking for a pgp version .... no search results
[09:59] <Anoop> blue i have only one internet connection now
[09:59] <oggah> Hello, I got breezy installed (standardinstall) and later icewm installed. How do I change resolution in IceWM?
[09:59] <BlueDevil> neighborlee: yes, it's a long process
[09:59] <funktown> phoul > try to disable your firewall
[09:59] <Anoop> so i can't ifconfig now
[09:59] <phoul> Funk how do i disable the wirewall
[09:59] <neighborlee> BlueDevil, ok thx for verify
[09:59] <Anoop> r u from america?
[09:59] <BlueDevil> neighborlee: yw
[09:59] <phoul> The only one im awear i have is on my router and i would need to open a port you cant disbale it
[09:59] <Anoop> i will connect in the evening from home
[09:59] <funktown> phoul > no idea, depends on which one you're running.. or if its a hardware device
[09:59] <Anoop> and i can do what u want
[10:00] <ortner> Anyone knows a good alternative to macromedia dreamwave for linux?
[10:00] <Anoop> i am really desperate now
[10:00] <Anoop> i need ur help
[10:00] <BlueDevil> Anoop: why can't you show me ifconfig output?
[10:00] <funktown> phoul > try telling gtk-gnutella to use that port.. the option should be somewhere in the preferences
[10:00] <Anoop> k
[10:00] <phoul> funk like on suse i got limewire running
[10:00] <Anoop> hold on
[10:00] <Techie_dude> How do  i open a program in wine?
[10:00] <oggah> Anyone knows how to change resolution in iceWM?
[10:00] <Anoop> i am in a diff computer blue
[10:00] <Kyral> Techie_dude: wine <path to exe>
[10:00] <oggah> I want 1024, because the refreshrate is high then.
[10:00] <Anoop> i have to type a lot
[10:00] <funktown> ortner > try nvu
[10:00] <navarone> phoul...you can enable pseudo udp node as well
[10:00] <Kyral> oggah: you have to do it in Xorg.conf
[10:00] <Techie_dude> do i need to use sudo
[10:00] <Kyral> I think
[10:00] <BlueDevil> ortner: try quanta
[10:01] <Kyral> Techie_dude: I don;t think so
[10:01] <BlueDevil> Anoop: can't paste?
[10:01] <oggah> Kyral, I guess so. What should I change?
[10:01] <phoul> navarone, how do i do that?
[10:01] <ortner> BlueDevil: , funktown thanks :)
[10:01] <Anoop> two diff computers
[10:01] <phoul> and what will it do
[10:01] <Kyral> oggah: what do you want to do?
[10:01] <navarone> phoul>should be a check box on Gnutella-net tab
[10:01] <BlueDevil> Anoop: ah, sorry
[10:01] <Anoop> let me type
[10:01] <BlueDevil> Anoop: then just check if the nic has an address assigned to it
[10:01] <Anoop> link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:A0:D1:24:A3:17
[10:01] <oggah> Kyral, the resolution is right now 1280x1024, but I want 1024x768.
[10:02] <navarone> phoul>enable udp...I have it enabled and use deafult firewall settings no prob
[10:02] <Kyral> oggah: I'd disable the higher res
[10:02] <Kyral> either way you are going to have to edit Xorg.conf
[10:02] <Anoop> inet6 addr: fe80::2a0:d1ff:fe24:a317/64 scope:link
[10:02] <phoul> navarone,  its enabled....
[10:02] <oggah> Just remove them from the Subsection "Display" ?
[10:02] <phoul> But i still see no  results
[10:02] <Kyral> ...or that
[10:02] <Anoop> blue it gets assigned the time its working
[10:02] <navarone> phoul try restarting gnutella now
[10:02] <Anoop> after the reboot everything gone
[10:02] <Anoop> thats the most weired part
[10:03] <noen> @ menzin ???
[10:03] <Anoop> how can it work for once that means the drivers are installed correctly
[10:03] <phoul> nope nothing
[10:03] <Anoop> but i don't know what goes on during reboot?????
[10:03] <phoul> Still no search results
[10:03] <Mazin> oh, sorry noen
[10:03] <Mazin> I'm not sure, but PGP might not be in the UBuntu repositories
[10:03] <ortner> BlueDevil: what was the name of the program agian?
[10:04] <navarone> phoul...how many ultrapeers are you connected to?
[10:04] <phoul> navarone, still nothing
[10:04] <chrisx1> How Do I Get Modules From Perl?
[10:04] <noen> so I have to download it manualy
[10:04] <phoul> ultrapeers?
[10:04] <SWAT> bor, why do I need to use the -dvd-video tag?
[10:04] <phoul> what do you mean
[10:04] <Mazin> you'll either have to add a repository, dl the rpm, or compile it from source
[10:04] <Mazin> wait, i assume you mean GPG
[10:04] <BlueDevil> ortner: quanta
[10:04] <oggah> Kyral, thanks. Got 1024 right now :) How do I change refreshrate?
[10:04] <Anoop> blue r u there?
[10:05] <navarone> phoul> In Gnuterlla tab...how many connections does it say...at left...?
[10:05] <BlueDevil> Anoop: yes, heavily multitasking :)
[10:05] <Anoop> sorry i see ur posting now
[10:05] <Anoop> i know
[10:05] <Anoop> u r the man
[10:05] <phoul> navarone, what tab...
[10:05] <bor> SWAT: well, that was wrong, you need -udf instead, of course, sorry :)
[10:05] <Kyral> oggah: it should be somewhere in Xorg.conf
[10:05] <navarone> phoul...be adventurous and try looking
[10:05] <Kyral> the Horiz
[10:05] <bor> growisofs takes mkisofs arguments
[10:05] <BlueDevil> Anoop: lemme get this right: you're saying that sometimes it works and after a reboot it doesn't?
[10:05] <SWAT> bor, no problemo, just clearing some space to make the image. If it works.... I'll let you know :)
[10:05] <bor> (after its options)
[10:05] <Anoop> exactly
[10:05] <phoul> nava the hostcache?
[10:05] <mango> Hi gays, I am trying to find out the driver for my wireless card for a hp "compaq nx6110". Windows xp does not day much apart that it is a  Broadcom Intel /wireless card ...could any help me please?
[10:05] <noen> no PGP : pretty good privacy
[10:06] <phoul> or the gnutellanet thing
[10:06] <Anoop> and that sometimes is very very few times
[10:06] <bor> SWAT: that's a good point to use growisofs, because it writes the images on-the-fly
[10:06] <Anoop> i mean once in bluemoon it works
[10:06] <Kyral> mango: I think you need to use NDiswrapper
[10:06] <Anoop> then one reboot gone
[10:06] <sm> morning all.. how do I unfuk gnome(?) when the mouse pointer gets stuck as the + sign in a text widget ?
[10:06] <bor> SWAT: so you don't need to care about space :)
[10:06] <Anoop> it def works right after the first installation
[10:06] <oggah> seems a bit strange to me. running breezy on a amd athlon 1,4ghz. 512mb ram. doing a "free -m" shows 393mb used! 110mb free.
[10:06] <phoul> navarone,
[10:06] <sm> presently I have to restart x which is a pain in the ass
[10:07] <Mazin> PGP is commercialware ain't it?
[10:07] <navarone> phoul...near bottom left...it say connections and upload download...how many connections do you have currently?
[10:07] <noen> yeah but there a defenitly open versions....
[10:07] <phoul> 0/3 connections
[10:07] <mjr> Mazin, yes; see gpg for a free replacement
[10:07] <Mazin> that's what i thought, so it wouldn't be in the ubuntu repositories
[10:07] <Anoop> has anybody else tracked my messages?
[10:07] <BlueDevil> Anoop: that's weird
[10:07] <navarone> Then phoul you are not going to get search results if you are not on network
[10:07] <Anoop> exactly
[10:07] <Mazin> will GPG work for you noen?
[10:07] <phoul> well umm
[10:07] <phoul> How do i get on a network
[10:08] <ubun-newbie> hello anyone in ehre how do i start awk
[10:08] <Anoop> blue what possibly can be wrong?
[10:08] <navarone> phoul...Setting/Preferences/Network tab...enable udp
[10:08] <noen> yes sure... as long as its works: I want encryption ;)
[10:09] <BlueDevil> Anoop: I suggest you to grab the output of ifconfig, lsmod and dmesg when it's working
[10:09] <phoul> its already on navarone
[10:09] <Mazin> look for GPG in synaptic then, and mark it for DL
[10:09] <Mazin> then "apply changes"
[10:09] <Anoop> i am new to linux
[10:09] <BlueDevil> Anoop: and compare to the output of those commands when it's not working
[10:09] <Anoop> so can u pl be detail abt what i should do
[10:09] <phoul> nava its on lol
[10:09] <Anoop> k
[10:09] <phoul> it was already on
[10:10] <Anoop> r u in this chat most of the time
[10:10] <BlueDevil> Anoop: my *wild* guess is that the hardware is detected properly but it can't aquire an ip address via DHCP
[10:10] <noen> interesting: it is already installed..... I dont understand that
[10:10] <mango> Kyral: I found only the source on synaptic...is it only what I need
[10:10] <Anoop> u r 100% right
[10:10] <jenda> Hey, do you know how to install a VooDoo?
[10:10] <mango> ??
[10:10] <Anoop> thats what exactly i think
[10:10] <Anoop> but don't know how to fix it
[10:10] <Kyral> mango: NDiswrapper-utils
[10:10] <jupp> how can i use php5 with apache? I installed apache and php5
[10:10] <Anoop> whats the reason blue?
[10:10] <noplease> hi@all
[10:10] <BlueDevil> Anoop: for a more precise guess I would need more debugging output
[10:11] <phoul> navarone,
[10:11] <oggah> how do you define the "etc" directory?
[10:11] <oggah> in linuxsystems
[10:11] <Kyral> define?
[10:11] <phoul> Its already on
[10:11] <BlueDevil> Anoop: the causes can be multiple
[10:11] <phoul> Any other ideas
[10:11] <Anoop> u mean the output of ifconfig
[10:11] <noen> the package is called: libgpg-error= ....I dont think thats what I want anyway
[10:11] <BlueDevil> Anoop: ifconfig, dmesg
[10:11] <navarone> phoul if you are not connecting to any peers you may have to look at the settings and see what looks out of whack...maybe make sure you are allowing surplus bandwidth or something else that is interfering
[10:11] <phoul> nava i looked through the settings already
[10:11] <oggah> yeah define.
[10:11] <BlueDevil> Anoop: you might look in /var/log/messages for anything out of the ordinary
[10:11] <phoul> everything looks fine
[10:12] <phoul> god damn do i miss limewire
[10:12] <Anoop> blue: how can i paste the messages from another machine?
[10:12] <Anoop> any idea?
[10:12] <xiaogil> what can i do when changes in the file /etc/fonts/fonts.conf are not taken into account ?
[10:12] <oggah> Anyone could give me a url with info bout ubuntus different directories? "etc", "var", "lib" etc.
[10:13] <Kyral> oggah: those are standard Linux dirs
[10:13] <BlueDevil> Anoop: without a network? :) take pictures :)
[10:13] <oggah> what is by default put in these directories?
[10:13] <Oceansblue> Try Debian site docs for directories
[10:13] <navarone> phoul...is peer mode on automatic in setting?
[10:13] <BlueDevil> Anoop: or use a serial consone :-/
[10:13] <Anoop> frustrating!!!
[10:13] <phoul> navarone, peermode?
[10:13] <phoul> wheres that
[10:13] <BlueDevil> s/consone/console/
[10:13] <navarone> In settings
[10:13] <Anoop> don't know what is a serial consone
[10:14] <phoul> yeah autos on
[10:14] <BlueDevil> Anoop: console
[10:14] <navarone> Setting/Pref/gnutella-net
[10:14] <phoul> yeah its on
[10:14] <Oceansblue> A text console running from a serial port
[10:14] <jgrieves> does anyone work X a lot here
[10:14] <BlueDevil> jgrieves: ?
[10:14] <navarone> phoul...Setting/Pref/Bandwidth/Use surplus...?
[10:14] <phoul> Yup
[10:14] <Oceansblue> what is the X ?
[10:15] <jgrieves> is it Xfixes extension which works with cursor changing on the fly?
[10:15] <mango> Kyral: I installed everything....do I download the windows driver for the wireless card and install it thoriugh ndiswrapper  ow?
[10:15] <Kyral> lol Oceansblue
[10:15] <Kyral> mango: does it work?
[10:15] <navarone> phoul...I have no idea...maybe you are using router and need to forward ports
[10:15] <jgrieves> or is it render
[10:15] <phoul> Im on a router nava
[10:15] <phoul> I just dont know how to use it
[10:15] <phoul> Dlink
[10:15] <navarone> no idea either...not suing one
[10:16] <phoul> anyone know how to access a dlink router
[10:16] <phoul> Its a set up numbers into the browser i know that much...
[10:16] <Ishotweb> if my echo $DISPLAY gives me  :0.0
[10:16] <Ishotweb>   is that normal
[10:16] <BlueDevil> jgrieves: i have RENDER enabled
[10:16] <navarone> phoul needs help forwarding port for gnutella-gtk to connect
[10:16] <mango> Kyral: I just installed the ndiswrapper. I asked you weather to download the windows drivers now?
[10:16] <BlueDevil> Ishotweb: yes
[10:17] <Ishotweb> bluedevil : okay thanks
[10:17] <BlueDevil> Ishotweb: if you switch to the second desktop, it would echo :0.1
[10:17] <jgrieves> BlueDevil do you know if render allows cursors to change on the fly
[10:17] <Oceansblue> msg mango You can use the windows driver
[10:17] <Kyral> mango: yes you need the .sys and .ini
[10:17] <Oceansblue> the sys and inf
[10:17] <jgrieves> BlueDevil trying to figure out which extensions corresponds to xcursorgen function...i.e cursors created for X which extension uses that
[10:17] <Kyral> same thing!
[10:18] <BlueDevil> Ishotweb: disregard my second remark, it false
[10:18] <mango> Kyral: wait , I will download it first than get back to you.
[10:18] <BlueDevil> jgrieves: no, i do not know if render is responsible for that
[10:18] <jgrieves> ok
[10:18] <Ishotweb> bluedevil : hah okay i will
[10:19] <Ishotweb> does anyone know what could cause this Application tries to create a window, but no driver could be loaded. Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly. then?
[10:20] <jc-denton> http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2005/12/05/strong_growth_for_debian.html
[10:20] <jc-denton> i ask myself if this is because of ubuntu
[10:20] <jc-denton> but how can i verify
[10:20] <SWAT> bor, it didn't work
[10:21] <SWAT> bor, because even mkisofs -udf says: Vlaue too large for defined data type (the file is just too large - ignoring)
[10:21] <trappist> jc-denton: if it gets the distro from the webserver's version string, then no.  ubuntu's apache identifies itself as such.
[10:22] <BlueDevil> trappist: probably doing so
[10:22] <BlueDevil> besides, ubuntu's big market share is on desktop not server
[10:22] <trappist> BlueDevil: now that I think of it, I'm certain it is.  that's how I got it to think I was running IIS on linux for a while :)
[10:23] <BlueDevil> trappist: lol :)
[10:23] <trappist> http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http://linuxkungfu.org
[10:24] <trappist> begone, flooder.
[10:24] <BlueDevil> trappist: try Apache on SymbianOS :)
[10:24] <jc-denton> ah
[10:24] <BlueDevil> that'd be the day when someone notices that at MS
[10:24] <jc-denton> but then why should debian grow so much
[10:24] <jc-denton> i mean ubuntu offers commercial support for the server
[10:24] <jc-denton> that would be an argument
[10:25] <BlueDevil> jc-denton: it sais that's prolly because deb 3.1 was released in july
[10:25] <trappist> jc-denton: debian offers extreme stability that can only come with painfully ancient packages, and server people tend to like that
[10:25] <jc-denton> lol
[10:25] <jc-denton> a very good security team
[10:25] <jc-denton> and much commercial support
[10:25] <trappist> that too
[10:25] <jc-denton> no that not
[10:26] <jc-denton> the security team is not even paid afaik
[10:26] <trappist> therefore they suck?
[10:26] <jenda> The teams aren't paid
[10:26] <jc-denton> and commercial support, there is only progeny which i know
[10:26] <jenda> And no, they don't suck.
[10:26] <jc-denton> trappist: well the team is basically joey hess
[10:26] <BlueDevil> heh, I'm paid and I suck :D
[10:26] <jc-denton> who does a very good job
[10:26] <Anoop> blue i have both ifconfig and dmesg copied
[10:27] <jc-denton> but he's not paid
[10:27] <Anoop> if u want i can paste now
[10:27] <jenda> Linux as a whole has been created voluntarily :) - thank you BlueDevil :)
[10:27] <bor> SWAT: hm, strange, -dvd-video uses UDF too and that should work (haven't used it yet, but read it).  you could try to use this option instead of -udf, but I don't know if your data is readable.  if you finished the mkisofs procedure, just try to mount it loopback
[10:27] <ddew|bofh> Any ppc64 users around?
[10:27] <ddew|bofh> @
[10:27] <jc-denton> well i guess redhat ist popular because of the commercial support and stuff
[10:27] <BlueDevil> trappist: i'm a product/project manager :P
[10:27] <jc-denton> debian does not have that
[10:27] <jc-denton> but ubuntu
[10:27] <Anoop> blue: did u get my message?
[10:27] <jc-denton> so it would be likely that the growth is caused by ubuntu
[10:28] <BlueDevil> Anoop: please don't paste in channel
[10:28] <Anoop> k
[10:28] <Anoop> email?
[10:28] <BlueDevil> Anoop: paste in pm/query
[10:28] <jc-denton> i also see ubuntu nowhere on the chart of netcraft
[10:28] <Anoop> where is pm/query?
[10:28] <navarone> what's netcraft?
[10:28] <SWAT> bor, same error. Value too large, ignoring
[10:28] <BlueDevil> jc-denton: what's your point?
[10:28] <BlueDevil> Anoop: pm=private message
[10:29] <navarone> Anoop /msg <nick>
[10:29] <ddew|bofh> I'm having problems with the ppc install-cds, anyone care to clue me in on who to contact or where I can get assistance?
[10:29] <BlueDevil> Anoop: /query <nick>
[10:29] <jc-denton> BlueDevil: i'm intrested why they grew so much
[10:29] <mango> Kyral: I found 2 drivers the 2100, and the 2200 which one do I picK?
[10:29] <Anoop> so i paste here as pm/query
[10:30] <BlueDevil> Anoop signed off (Excess flood) :)
[10:30] <Ishotweb> ah i figured out my problem... i need to get the X development files, at least xlib/xfree86 devel packages
[10:30] <ompaul> This would be how I would use it >>/msg anoop this is not a query it is a message
[10:30] <BlueDevil> Anoop: yes, you can paste in a query
[10:30] <FlimFlamMan> from the breezy livecd, i'm trying to resize an ntfs partition with gparted, but it keeps failing.  command-line output says /dev/hdc is read-only (cdrom) and "unable to open /dev/mapper/casper-cow", whatever that is...  is there no way to resize this ntfs partition so i can install breezy?
[10:31] <Techie_dude> ...um...i got this error when trying to use wine  rr:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"Z:\\home\\Dorgem\\Dorgem.exe" failed, status c0000135
[10:31] <Anoop> pm/query/ [LNKD]  -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294669.654000]  ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:00:1f.2 disabled
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294669.654000]  ahci: probe of 0000:00:1f.2 failed with error -12
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294669.655000]  ata_piix version 1.03
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294669.655000]  ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1f.2[B]  -> Link [LNKD]  -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294669.655000]  PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1f.2 to 64
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294669.655000]  ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x1F0 ctl 0x3F6 bmdma 0x1100 irq 14
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294669.809000]  ata1: dev 0 cfg 49:2f00 82:746b 83:7d09 84:6023 85:7468 86:3c09 87:6023 88:203f
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294669.809000]  ata1: dev 0 ATA, max UDMA/100, 195371568 sectors: lba48
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294669.809000]  ata1(0): applying bridge limits
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294669.809000]  ata1: dev 0 configured for UDMA/100
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294669.809000]  scsi0 : ata_piix
[10:31] <ompaul> Anoop, please dont do that
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294669.809000]    Vendor: ATA       Model: TOSHIBA MK1032GA  Rev: AB21
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294669.809000]    Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 05
[10:31] <BlueDevil> stop :)
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294669.809000]  ata2: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x170 ctl 0x376 bmdma 0x1108 irq 15
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294670.117000]  ata2: dev 0 cfg 49:0f00 82:0000 83:0000 84:0000 85:0000 86:0000 87:0000 88:0407
[10:31] <BlueDevil> omg ;)
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294670.117000]  ata2: dev 0 ATAPI, max UDMA/33
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294670.117000]  ata2(0): applying bridge limits
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294670.117000]  ata2: dev 0 configured for UDMA/33
[10:31] <bor> SWAT: darn, another solution would be to burn it as raw data (i.e. tar cvpf - -C /path/to/image/dir file | growisofs -Z /dev/dvd=proc/self/fd/0)
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294670.117000]  scsi1 : ata_piix
[10:31] <ompaul> paste = paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294670.119000]    Vendor: MATSHITA  Model: DVD-RAM UJ-831S   Rev: 1.40
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294670.119000]    Type:   CD-ROM                             ANSI SCSI revision: 05
[10:31] <navarone> uh oh
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294670.135000]  Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00alpha2
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294670.135000]  ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294670.135000]  ACPI: bus type ide registered
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294670.136000]  ide0: I/O resource 0x1F0-0x1F7 not free.
[10:31] <Anoop> [4294670.136000]  ide0: ports already in use, skipping probe
[10:32] <Anoop> [4294670.136000]  ide1: I/O resource 0x170-0x177 not free.
[10:32] <Anoop> [4294670.136000]  ide1: ports already in use, skipping probe
[10:32] <Anoop> [4294670.136000]  Probing IDE interface ide2...
[10:32] <bor> SWAT: but you won't be able to mount it and must know that the data is kept raw on the DVD
[10:32] <FlimFlamMan> ok...
[10:32] <FlimFlamMan> from the breezy livecd, i'm trying to resize an ntfs partition with gparted, but it keeps failing.  command-line output says /dev/hdc is read-only (cdrom) and "unable to open /dev/mapper/casper-cow", whatever that is...  is there no way to resize this ntfs partition so i can install breezy?
[10:32] <ompaul> Anoop,  paste = paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:32] <Techie_dude> i got this error when trying to run wine rr:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"Z:\\home\\Dorgem\\Dorgem.exe" failed, status c0000135
[10:32] <BlueDevil> damn, I even opened a query and said "paste here"
[10:32] <funktown> FlimFlamMan.. i dont think you can write any changes to an ntfs filesystem
[10:32] <ompaul> Anoop,  a little know very useful url
[10:33] <Techie_dude> does anyone know what that error meant?
[10:33] <navarone> FlimFlamMan, writing ntfs can corrupt filedystem
[10:33] <owner989> hey do you guys think i will be able to get a usb wireless adapter to work with ubuntu
[10:33] <SWAT> bor, hmmmz....... that's evil. ATM looking for another solution
[10:33] <owner989> im installing ubuntu on another computer right now
[10:33] <trappist> you can resize ntfs.  that's not the same as writing to it.
[10:33] <BlueDevil> Anoop: nothing from the paste is useful
[10:33] <ompaul> Techie_dude, looks to me like the error is an exe error
[10:33] <owner989> but the autoconf didnt detect the network
[10:34] <Techie_dude> okay
[10:34] <BlueDevil> Anoop: and in the future when I say paste here, please do so
[10:34] <FlimFlamMan> funktown, "Jan 17, 2005 	 A new, actively developed, free graphical partitioner arrived, called GParted. Its name stands for Gnome Partition Editor and it's one of the most feature rich  partitioners in the world by supporting ext2, ext3, JFS, Reiserfs, XFS, NTFS, FAT16, FAT32 and the HFS filesystems. GParted is using ntfsresize internally for safe NTFS resizing."
[10:34] <bor> SWAT: you could use rar to make an archive splitted into volumes with maxsize of 2 GB :)
[10:34] <Techie_dude> could it work with a zip file?
[10:34] <trappist> FlimFlamMan: it looks like it's trying to resize your cdrom drive?
[10:34] <BlueDevil> Anoop: if you did, the text would have ended up in my query not in the channel
[10:34] <SWAT> bor, come on :P I just want to burn it normally. Just browsing google with the current error
[10:34] <Anoop> first i made a mistake
[10:35] <ompaul> Techie_dude, could what work - that is a little kinda vague
[10:35] <Anoop> i didn't understand
[10:35] <FlimFlamMan> trappist, i don't know if that error is a direct indication that it's trying to resize the cdrom or not...
[10:35] <Anoop> then i did it right
[10:35] <Techie_dude> will wine work with a .zip file....sorry
[10:35] <BlueDevil> Anoop: i still can't see any text in the query
[10:35] <trappist> FlimFlamMan: you should be able to resize it from the ubuntu installer
[10:35] <BlueDevil> Anoop: what client are you using?
[10:35] <Anoop> why?
[10:35] <ompaul> Techie_dude, why would you want wine to work with it - just double click on it and it will be unzipped for you
[10:35] <Anoop> xchat
[10:35] <trappist> FlimFlamMan: assuming you've defragged
[10:36] <Techie_dude> no i mean a windoes .zip filee
[10:36] <Anoop> blue:is xchat good or not
[10:36] <ompaul> Techie_dude, zip is a format
[10:36] <alistair_> Prob off topic but the ubuntu certification? is there any plans to provide some kinda training manual? and not just an exam?
[10:36] <FlimFlamMan> trappist, i defragged but it just made files contiguous, there are still files spread across the drive.  this is an xp laptop
[10:36] <BlueDevil> Anoop: if you right click on a nickname there should be an entry "Query"
[10:36] <william> How do I get Ubuntu to access Debian's apt servers instead of its own?
[10:36] <Techie_dude> i know how to fix the pasting  problem in xchat....... type something like this before pasting....... this is the error i got...then paste after that message and it wont do taht
[10:37] <ompaul> Techie_dude, ehh no if you have lots of data use paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:37] <battlecat> Hi I am on dial-up and I would like to know if there is an update feature like there is when I use the ethernet cable at the office?
[10:37] <BlueDevil> william: man sources.list
[10:37] <Techie_dude> ah....
[10:37] <trappist> FlimFlamMan: you might have better luck defragging in save mode.  if there are files near the end of the partition ntfsresize will only work to the end of those files
[10:37] <ctcecil> How's everyone
[10:37] <Anoop> blue: there is no enter query in right click option
[10:37] <trappist> *safe mode
[10:37] <Ishotweb> okay so if i have to install a package called XFree86-devel how can i go about finding this package to install it? apt-get install XFree86-devel can't find it
[10:37] <william> What is the Debian server?
[10:38] <trappist> Ishotweb: why do you think you need to install that?
[10:38] <ompaul> william, you do that to break your ubuntu
[10:38] <william> I just want to install more apps
[10:39] <william> I don't even see game being listed
[10:39] <Ishotweb> trappist: i need to compile wine, and wine's telling me that i need that package to build it with X support
[10:39] <BlueDevil> Ishotweb: apt-cache search
[10:39] <sunsun_> hi how do i install lame to encode mp3?
[10:39] <ompaul> william, so add a few repos to synaptic and you can have up to 17500 in breezy
[10:39] <mysyfy_> i'm trying to compile the kernel modules for running vmware.....during the installation i received this error
[10:39] <trappist> william: debian packages are not binary-compatible with ubuntu
[10:39] <mysyfy_> gcc-3.4: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1plus': File not found
[10:39] <william> Where is the list file anyways?
[10:39] <TTilus> I burned data DVD with couple of 1+Gb files.  It works fine on the machine it was burned and on an old Win XP laptop (IBM 600X).  Another Linux box having same make and age DVD drive (than the one used for burning) shows only 5-11Mb files, otherwise things work.  Any suggestions what eats up the file tails?
[10:39] <sunsun_> hi how do i install lame to encode mp3 using command line?
[10:39] <trappist> Ishotweb: try xserver-xorg-dev
[10:40] <_seatouch> hey
[10:40] <william> You can download Lame from Apt
[10:40] <BlueDevil> Anoop: check for a tab in xchat having my nick as the title
[10:40] <jsteidl> sunsun_: you mean like "apt-get"  or the console-interface?
[10:40] <mysyfy_> before running the installation i did export CC=gcc-3.4 as is the same version of my gcc for the kernel compilation
[10:40] <seatouch> can anyone tell me the command to install build-essential ?
[10:40] <bor> SWAT: if you find a way, please let me know :).  I thought the UDF-way should work, but obviously  this isn't the case
[10:40] <Anoop> YES
[10:40] <lightbright> hey hey
[10:40] <sunsun_> yah i  cant figure out what package has lame to encode mp3 using command line
[10:40] <Ishotweb> trappist: it can't find that either
[10:40] <ompaul> william, are you reading what I am saying to you? - you don't use debian repos for ubuntu - you will break your system - you add more repos - check out synaptic:: system - administration - syanptic package manager and in there you add more repos
[10:40] <Anoop> I already see that blue
[10:40] <zAo^> how do I change the number of scroll lines (mouse)
[10:40] <mycket> william, you can add community packages in synaptic.
[10:40] <jsteidl> seatouch: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:40] <mysyfy_> i already have the g++ packages...
[10:40] <TTilus> sunsun_: sudo aptitude install [the packages you want] 
[10:41] <BlueDevil> Anoop: click on it, that's the query from me
[10:41] <sunsun_> lame is a virtual package so it doesnt install
[10:41] <TTilus> sunsun_: or better yet, just sudo aptitude, and use the console interface to browse and select packages
[10:41] <BlueDevil> Anoop: and respond there
[10:41] <Anoop> i have already responded 3-4 lines
[10:41] <mysyfy_> but i don't know if i have to have the g++ packages for the same version of the CC that i export
[10:41] <BlueDevil> Anoop: i didn't receive anything
[10:42] <trappist> mysyfy_: ls -l `which g++`
[10:42] <sunsun_> hi which package has the command line "lame" mp3 encoder?
[10:42] <TTilus> sunsun_: packages.ubuntu.com
[10:42] <seatouch> can anyone tell me where the root terminal is located ?
[10:42] <Anoop> can't do anything
[10:42] <TTilus> sunsun_: search there
[10:42] <Anoop> i can see ur mesg
[10:42] <TTilus> seatouch: use sudo
[10:42] <seatouch> rite
[10:42] <chrisx1> !tell seatouch about root
[10:42] <Anoop> can i send the file
[10:42] <Anoop> i have it as file
[10:42] <sunsun_> it says lame is in the "multiverse"
[10:42] <Anoop> blue i have an option called send file
[10:43] <mysyfy_> trappist, /usr/bin/g++ -> g++-4.0
[10:43] <ompaul> william, read this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[10:43] <MagicFab> Hello
[10:43] <ompaul> chrisx1, the bot is missing
[10:43] <sunsun_> how do i put multiverse into sources.list?  what is the actual line?
[10:43] <chrisx1> :o
[10:43] <jsteidl> sunsun_: i have installed lame (its in universe/multiverse) and it worls fine in the console.
[10:43] <chrisx1> Why?
[10:43] <BlueDevil> Anoop: try sending the file
[10:44] <jsteidl> sunsun_: deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted universe multiverse
[10:44] <MagicFab> I'd like to know if FreeNX is really free (libre) ?
[10:44] <ompaul> seatouch read this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SudoRoot
[10:44] <BlueDevil> sunsun_: replace "de" with your country code
[10:44] <sunsun_> ok thanks a lot everyone.
[10:44] <TTilus> MagicFab: search licence
[10:44] <mysyfy_> trappist, it's right version of g++ for gcc-3.4 ?
[10:45] <jsteidl> sunsun_: do a 'apt-get update' after editing /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:45] <JyZ|> hey
[10:45] <peadot> re
[10:45] <MagicFab> Although http://freenx.berlios.de/ sure looks like it is, I don't find it in any U. repos
[10:45] <TTilus> MagicFab: this http://freenx.berlios.de/ ?
[10:45] <JyZ|> where do i put Broken package filter on ?
[10:45] <BlueDevil> MagicFab: Seveas has it in his repo for x86
[10:45] <trappist> mysyfy_: no, you want g++-3.4
[10:45] <justin__> #ht
[10:45] <Anoop> blue it says its waiting
[10:45] <BlueDevil> Anoop: i didn't get a notification...
[10:46] <lawrence> trappist, why not gcc 4.0?
[10:46] <goyaves> hello all
[10:46] <jsteidl> JyZ|: use synaptic and select custom instead of sections
[10:46] <lawrence> trappist, I hear that gentoo made the switch
[10:46] <TTilus> MagicFab: http://openfacts.berlios.de/index-en.phtml?title=FreeNX_FAQ/General
[10:46] <trappist> lawrence: he's using gcc 3.4 and is trying to match his g++ to it
[10:46] <goyaves> I want to know if there are people here from Africa ?
[10:46] <mysyfy_> trappist, hmm right....after install it i have to export something too ... like CC?
[10:46] <lawrence> trappist, oh ok
[10:46] <Necrocide> &j #gnome
[10:46] <trappist> lawrence: so did ubuntu
[10:46] <goyaves> anyone here from Africa ?
[10:46] <MagicFab> BlueDevil: yes, saw that. But why isn't it into ubuntu repositories (too recent) ? How can I find out if it'sbeen considered for addition ?
[10:46] <trappist> mysyfy_: I'm not sure, I usually just change my symlinks
[10:46] <lawrence> trappist, I know...but the compiler plays a greater role in gentoo
[10:47] <lawrence> so they'd most likely have a relatively conservative policy on updating it
[10:47] <goyaves> anyone here from Africa ?
[10:47] <goyaves> anyone here from Africa ?
[10:47] <goyaves> please
[10:47] <lawrence> Nope
[10:47] <BlueDevil> MagicFab: don't know why it isn't in ubuntu repos
[10:47] <mysyfy_> trappist, ok...tks u...i'll do that.. :)
[10:47] <trappist> lawrence: gentoo doesn't have a conservative policy about anything.  newer==better, especially with compilers.
[10:48] <jsteidl> trappist: not if it breaks everything ;)
[10:48] <jsteidl> thats why there is breakmygentoo.net
[10:48] <lawrence> yeah
[10:48] <trappist> jsteidl: you're preaching to the choir
[10:48] <Anoop> blue: do u see anything on query window
[10:48] <Anoop> what client r u using?
[10:48] <Anoop> xchat is good or not?
[10:48] <trappist> xchat is fine
[10:48] <chrisx1> xchat == best
[10:48] <chrisx1> :P
[10:48] <trappist> real men use irssi though
[10:48] <LMX2> xchat is the best irc client i know
[10:48] <lawrence> xchat is a demonspawn succubus from hell
[10:49] <BlueDevil> Anoop: i don't see anything in query window from you
[10:49] <Anoop> thats weird
[10:49] <jsteidl> Anoop: try it on another person (i volunteer ;))
[10:49] <Anoop> thanks
[10:49] <BlueDevil> Anoop: i'm using Konv since it comes with kubuntu-destop and I'm lazy
[10:49] <JyZ|> IS THERE ANY VIRUS SPYWARE OR MALWARE TO UBUNTU ?
[10:49] <JyZ|> can u hack ubuntu?
[10:50] <jsteidl> JyZ|: can you hack the world?
[10:50] <lawrence> Theoretically, yes
[10:50] <BlueDevil> JyZ|: surely you can hack ubuntu
[10:50] <JyZ|> no
[10:50] <Ishotweb> hakk the planet!!!!!11111
[10:50] <ko> of course JyZ|
[10:50] <BlueDevil> JyZ|: with a big enough hammer
[10:50] <lawrence> JyZ|, You can hack anything
[10:50] <JyZ|> no
[10:50] <william> What apt catagory is GMud under?
[10:50] <JyZ|> is it hard to hack ubuntu?
[10:50] <lawrence> BlueDevil, lol nice
[10:50] <JyZ|> via internet?
[10:50] <chrisx1> HACK THE WORLD NOO MAN U CANT DO THAT:o
[10:50] <Anoop> jsteidl did u get a notification
[10:50] <SWAT> bor, apparently I need the development version of mkisofs :-/
[10:50] <Anoop> i am trying to send a file to u
[10:50] <chrisx1> I unplug my Eth0!
[10:50] <JyZ|> do ubuntu got virus spyware ?
[10:50] <JyZ|> or overally linux
[10:50] <jsteidl> Anoop: no, i havent got any query...
[10:50] <TTilus> MagicFab: its coming http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/freenx-knx/2005-June/001358.html
[10:51] <JyZ|> ?
[10:51] <lawrence> JyZ|, I don't think there's any known ubuntu spyware in the wild
[10:51] <BlueDevil> JyZ|: work for MS? doing research?
[10:51] <jsteidl> JyZ|: no.
[10:51] <JyZ|> no
[10:51] <Anoop> i don't see u in the tab jsteidl
[10:51] <JyZ|> cause my web browser crash when iam on porn sites
[10:51] <JyZ|> :P
[10:51] <jsteidl> Anoop: i am trying to query you
[10:51] <navarone> lol
[10:51] <Anoop> k
[10:51] <chrisx1> anoop register ur nick
[10:51] <goyaves> please anyone help me
[10:51] <chrisx1> so u can send pm
[10:51] <goyaves> please anyone help me
[10:51] <jsteidl> Anoop: reciving anything?
[10:51] <Anoop> nope
[10:51] <chrisx1> -NickServ- The nickname [anoop]  is not registered
[10:51] <goyaves> am searchin africans here
[10:51] <BlueDevil> anoop: write "/query jsteidl"
[10:51] <jeed890> seveas u therw?
[10:51] <goyaves> please help me
[10:51] <navarone> goyaves, what's wrong?
[10:52] <Anoop> do i have to register
[10:52] <JyZ|> so
[10:52] <lawrence> JyZ|, Probably because your browser knows you're a pervert and tries to change your ways through brute force.  It's trying to make you love Jesus, that's all.
[10:52] <chrisx1> /msg nickserv register "pass"
[10:52] <JyZ|> :P:P
[10:52] <goyaves> I want to know if there are any africans here ?
[10:52] <goyaves> navarone
[10:52] <lawrence> goyaves, no
[10:52] <goyaves> where are you from
[10:52] <goyaves> am from montreal canada
[10:52] <Anoop> i am querying jstedl
[10:52] <navarone> Canada goya...but therre are Africans living in Canada...so you never can tell
[10:52] <jeed890> this is not chatty chat chat idiot its technical support
[10:52] <JyZ|> lawrence, u know any Emulator Free one ? maybie working with Counter-Strike ?
[10:52] <lightbright> navarone: interesting
[10:53] <navarone> how so lightbright ?
[10:53] <jeed890> seveas ?????????/
[10:53] <jsteidl> Anoop: you seem to have some sort of problem... but it works on my side to other clients.
[10:53] <lawrence> JyZ|, Cedega? It's not free
[10:53] <jc-denton> i noticed that the permission changed after updating fuse-utils on Breezy
[10:53] <BlueDevil> huh?! cedega isn't free? :-/
[10:53] <lightbright> navarone: interesting what you said
[10:53] <jc-denton> < root@nx7010:~ # ls -l `which fusermount`
[10:53] <jc-denton> -rwsr-xr--  1 root fuse 17208 Dec  1 12:17 /usr/bin/fusermount
[10:53] <Anoop> i have xchat
[10:53] <JyZ|> ye
[10:53] <JyZ|> lawrence, but u know any FREE ones
[10:53] <Anoop> should i change
[10:53] <lawrence> JyZ|, Maybe someone has gotten wine to work w/ CS, I don't know
[10:53] <lawrence> Vanilla wine works w/ WoW
[10:53] <JyZ|> lawrence, i cant get it workin
[10:53] <BlueDevil> Anoop: you need to register your nick
[10:54] <jeed890> can anybody help me seveas was but now he dont reply
[10:54] <Anoop> how?
[10:54] <jsteidl> Anoop: type /msg nickserv help
[10:54] <BlueDevil> Anoop: "/msg nickserv register your_password"
[10:54] <jc-denton> why is this?
[10:54] <DJGreen> hey hey folks
[10:54] <JyZ|> lawrence, when i try to update ubuntu it say  "You have 1 broken package on your system! use the broken filter to locate it"
[10:54] <DJGreen> what's up y'all Ubuntites
[10:54] <JyZ|> lawrence, where is the broken filter
[10:54] <jeed890> i need help with booting problems if anybody can help please pm me
[10:55] <DJGreen> use synaptic
[10:55] <jsteidl> JyZ|: use synaptic to locate the package
[10:55] <navarone> JyZ|, try status at bottom left
[10:55] <lightbright> DJGreen: why use synaptic when we have aptitude?
[10:55] <DJGreen> even better
[10:55] <lawrence> JyZ|, synaptic
[10:55] <navarone> JyZ|, in synaptic
[10:55] <neighborlee> lightbright, ease of use ? ;-)
[10:55] <DJGreen> but for this guy its synaptic
[10:55] <lawrence> JyZ|, Or just give me your root password, that works too
[10:55] <JyZ|> lawrence, Naah :)
[10:55] <DJGreen> pfft ..
[10:55] <lightbright> neighborlee: ok :)
[10:55] <neighborlee> :)
[10:56] <DJGreen> you know everyone was once a n00b
[10:56] <trappist> neighborlee: I think I remember you from #mandrake
[10:56] <DJGreen> so chill
[10:56] <neighborlee> lightbright, of course mainly newbie friendly <G>
[10:56] <neighborlee> trappist, indeed
[10:56] <lightbright> DJGreen: yes and many people are still noobs :)
[10:56] <navarone> lawrence, the Russian judge gives you 2.4 for social engineering...lol
[10:56] <neighborlee> trappist, how are you
[10:56] <lightbright> neighborlee: yeah true
[10:56] <lawrence> navarone, rofl
[10:56] <trappist> neighborlee: excellent.  you?
[10:56] <DJGreen> sadly but how can we have a bigger community if others dont start?
[10:56] <Taa5i_> Howdy yall!
[10:56] <neighborlee> trappist, excellent thx ;0)
[10:56] <DJGreen> see if you all want ubuntu to be all that that is
[10:56] <eedge> Is there any way I can force my traffic to go through a proxy.
[10:57] <eedge> As in, for programs that dont have inbuilt proxy support.
[10:57] <trappist> eedge: use iptables to set up a transparent proxy
[10:57] <lawrence> JyZ|, did you start synaptic?
[10:57] <JyZ|> lawrence, do iptables start auotmaticly when i start ubuntu?
[10:57] <eedge> that sounds difficult :)
[10:57] <jsteidl> Anoop: did it worked out for you?
[10:57] <JyZ|> lawrence, ye i fixed it :P
[10:57] <trappist> eedge: not really
[10:57] <eedge> any chance of some kind of guide or helpful link?
[10:57] <Anoop> i think blue can see me now
[10:57] <eedge> :)
[10:57] <Anoop> can u try again jsteidl
[10:57] <lawrence> JyZ|, wait...what?
[10:57] <lightbright> JyZ|: define iptables
[10:57] <navarone> JzE, ...yes...you can use firestarter to view traffic and make policy changes
[10:57] <JyZ|> say Where?
[10:58] <SWAT> bor, also have a look at the last remark on : http://lantech.geekvenue.net/chucktips/jason/chuck/1077301682/index_html
[10:58] <trappist> eedge: iptables -t nat -I PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports $PROXY_PORT
[10:58] <Taa5i_> ANYBODY: Does anybody here have any experiance using Ubuntu with an HP NetRAID controller? I have an older HP NetServer with it built in and the distribution disks seem to have trouble with the disks
[10:58] <lightbright> JzE: i use firestarter myself, its great
[10:58] <eedge> I try it :)
[10:58] <Taa5i_> The RAID disks that is
[10:58] <william> Ok
[10:58] <william> New question
[10:58] <eedge> should I have the proxy IP in there somewhere?
[10:58] <william> How do I automount NTFS drives?
[10:58] <jsteidl> Anoop: ?
[10:58] <JyZ|> say HEY
[10:58] <eedge> shouldn't I even.
[10:58] <Anoop> yes
[10:59] <JyZ|> say any good program for looking videos?
[10:59] <lightbright> JyZ|: go to www.grc.com   scroll-down,click on shields up logo,select all ports/services scan
[10:59] <trappist> eedge: no, you run that command on the proxy box, assuming you run the proxy on your gateway
[10:59] <lawrence> JyZ|, You can use iptables to write firewalls and that kind of stuff
[10:59] <lawrence> JyZ|, xine or totem
[10:59] <DJGreen> speaking of mounting hey does anyone know how to automount hfs and hfs+ in fstab?
[10:59] <lawrence> JyZ|, I use totem-xine
[10:59] <JyZ|> with one is better
[10:59] <jsteidl> Anoop: did the registering worked out?
[10:59] <Anoop> i think so
[10:59] <lawrence> JyZ|, depends
[10:59] <jsteidl> Anoop: so you've recieved my message?
[10:59] <Anoop> nope
[10:59] <trappist> eedge: it does get a *little* more complicated if the proxy doesn't run on the gateway
[10:59] <DJGreen> marc emery is that you?
[11:00] <DJGreen> hehe
[11:00] <jsteidl> Anoop: then it hasnt worked ;)
[11:00] <eedge> ah, thats where the problem lies... the proxy box is windows :S
[11:00] <eedge> lol
[11:00] <Anoop> k
[11:00] <Paradosso> does anyone know how to set character encoding in aterm/eterm?
[11:00] <Anoop> but blue replied
[11:00] <jsteidl> Anoop: please type "/msg nickserv help register (your passwd here)"
[11:00] <Anoop> and said hold on
[11:00] <Techie_dude> i can't get xwine to work with Dorgem
[11:00] <Anoop> i am holding on
[11:00] <jsteidl> Anoop: okay, i am staying out of this ;)
[11:00] <Anoop> thank you very much
[11:01] <Techie_dude> does anyone know how to fix my problem
[11:01] <jsteidl> you are welcome
[11:01] <DJGreen> aria giovanni?
[11:01] <DJGreen> wow we have some celebs here
[11:01] <DJGreen> pabloescobar..
[11:01] <NeverDream> leave the porn on YOUR computer
[11:01] <DJGreen> lol
[11:01] <JyZ|> hey
[11:01] <JyZ|> i got allmost all port CLOSED
[11:01] <eedge> What I want to do is force applications that alledgedly don't HAVE proxy support to go through my proxy.
[11:01] <Techie_dude> Does anyone know how to use xwine
[11:01] <PabloEscobar_> DJGreen-> sush
[11:01] <BlueDevil> does running "dpkg -l|egrep '^..R'" produce any warning for any of you
[11:01] <BlueDevil> ?
[11:01] <DJGreen> lol
[11:02] <lightbright> Techie_dude: whats xwine?
[11:02] <SWAT> DJGreen, don't be a perv. Keep those remarks to yourself
[11:02] <Techie_dude> its a gui version of wine
[11:02] <DJGreen> pablo i was ecknowledging the names that go by here
[11:02] <DJGreen> heh..
[11:02] <trappist> eedge: it's a little more complicated, then, but you can do it.  just forward all port 80 traffic to the windows box on the proxy port.
[11:02] <JyZ|> lawrence, totem xine is to debian !
[11:02] <zimbabwe> serea
[11:02] <DJGreen> oh hey its just the names that people use here i wasnt being a perv
[11:02] <DJGreen> i was just a name
[11:02] <eedge> and how would I do that :P
[11:02] <eedge> I havn't used iptables before.
[11:02] <lawrence> JyZ|, Ubuntu is based on debian
[11:03] <trappist> eedge: /join #iptables
[11:03] <eedge>  /join #iptables
[11:03] <eedge> opps, haha
[11:03] <JyZ|> say know
[11:03] <zimbabwe> what i do to see the list of channel ?
[11:03] <lawrence> root@sirius:/home/lawrence# aptitude search totem-xine
[11:03] <lawrence> id  totem-xine
[11:03] <lawrence> It's definitely there
[11:03] <jeed890> is seveas here?
[11:04] <DJGreen> lol
[11:04] <DJGreen> some of these names are pretty funny
[11:04] <lawrence> DJGreen, are you actually a dj?
[11:04] <DJGreen> once
[11:05] <DJGreen> in Taiwan
[11:05] <lawrence> DJGreen, haha awesome
[11:05] <nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn> can someone help me?
[11:05] <DJGreen> i gig some small time gigs
[11:05] <lawrence> DJGreen, cool
[11:05] <DJGreen> yeh
[11:05] <lawrence> MC Frontalot is the greatest mc ever
[11:05] <DJGreen> nothing too fancy just enough get the ladies
[11:05] <DJGreen> :)
[11:05] <lawrence> haha nice
[11:06] <nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn> i'm searching for a audio player that plays rar and zip files
[11:06] <FlimFlamMan> can i cram ubuntu onto a 2.5gb partition?
[11:06] <DJGreen> gotta do tha spin and grin and the ladies will follow .. that's my motto
[11:06] <trappist> nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn: rar and zip are not audio formats
[11:06] <lawrence> FlimFlamMan, depends...what you going to use it for?
[11:06] <lawrence> DJGreen, haha
[11:06] <nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn> yes i know
[11:06] <FlimFlamMan> lawrence, to demo the ubuntu desktop at work
[11:06] <nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn> i'm not so stupid
[11:06] <lawrence> FlimFlamMan, If you want to demo it, why not try a livecd?
[11:07] <nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn> but i dont want to extract and play
[11:07] <DJGreen> mello the jello , fall back to attack i'm DJGreen in tha house.
[11:07] <DJGreen> word..
[11:07] <FlimFlamMan> lawrence, low-end machine, would like to give it native drive access
[11:07] <Chronusdark> i agree with lawrence
[11:07] <lawrence> haha
[11:07] <DJGreen> :)
[11:07] <timbalbekov> how do i install the X11 development libraries?
[11:07] <hfx> hiyas
[11:08] <hfx> how do i make gedit support writing to a samba share?
[11:08] <nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn> someone knows a  audio program that plays rar and zip (yes its compressed files)
[11:08] <nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn> ?
[11:08] <szronik> Can someone tell me why browsing the web under Ubuntu is so much slower than in Windows?
[11:08] <trappist> hfx: you don't.  you make your samba share support writing.
[11:08] <lawrence> nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, Why not uncompress them first?
[11:08] <DJGreen> clickity clack did my keyboard tap. I know my show all the way down to my toe. nothin but a cow and a hoe.
[11:08] <timmy334> I just did a fresh install of Breezy on my laptop and it gives me the BSOD saying X couldn't start and it's disabling gdm. I've tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but it still doesn't work. How do I get it working?
[11:09] <DJGreen> :)
[11:09] <hfx> trappist, it does o.O
[11:09] <lawrence> DJGreen, haha nice....did you ever mc?
[11:09] <DJGreen> nope ..
[11:09] <mool> hum
[11:09] <DJGreen> just spin
[11:09] <trappist> hfx: gedit doesn't care if the file is on a samba share.
[11:09] <DJGreen> occasionally i pop in a few ryhmes to mix the nights
[11:09] <lawrence> DJGreen, oh nice
[11:09] <szronik> I need to know how to speed up networking under Linux. How do I set the card to half-duplex mode too?
[11:10] <hfx> transgress, seemingly it does
[11:10] <nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn> cause i have 160 gb of music, and i like that they stay compressed ( i know some plugins for winamp or foobar under windows)
[11:10] <hfx> on my kubuntu box, it works like a breeze
[11:10] <hfx> with kate ^^
[11:10] <Red-Sox> nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn: thats a whole lot of music!!
[11:10] <lawrence> FlimFlamMan, do you have a  swap partition?  Or do you need 2.5 gigabytes for ALL of ubuntu?
[11:11] <nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn> in hd
[11:11] <FlimFlamMan> lawrence, that doesn't include .5gb swap
[11:11] <lawrence> nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, don't pirate kthanks bye
[11:11] <trappist> nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn: unless your music is all .wavs they're already compressed and you're gaining nothing by zip/rarring them
[11:11] <FlimFlamMan> or 50mb boot
[11:11] <shinu> why cant i do an 'lsof |grep 123'?
[11:11] <nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn> and i have more 320 gb on dvds
[11:11] <hfx> read some ugly rumour about gedit not supporting gnome-vfs. is that still correct?
[11:11] <BlueDevil> nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn: you are aware that you can't compress mp3s much, right?!
[11:11] <Red-Sox> nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn: is there a media player that holds that much?
[11:11] <DJGreen> in fact last week i was invited as a guest at this one gig and i went on the mic and said "DJGreen is gonna burn the house down y'all best do your mizzen blitzen, if ya don't know what that is get the fuck out."
[11:11] <nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn> yes
[11:11] <Delvien> Anyone figure out how to make there "WIFI LED" to turn on when wifi is on?
[11:11] <trappist> lawrence: having music is pirating?
[11:11] <Red-Sox> nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn: how do you rip DVDs?
[11:11] <nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn> no
[11:11] <lawrence> trappist, I was joking
[11:12] <lawrence> nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, i'm not sure...check to see if there's an xmms plugin
[11:12] <nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn> i have done this
[11:12] <FlimFlamMan> mp3 doesn't compress hardly at all
[11:12] <nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn> yes
[11:12] <Madmad> can anybody help me wid xp and 5.04 dual boot problems if so plz plz plz pm me
[11:13] <DJGreen> sure it does .. just rename the mp3 to compress.mp3
[11:13] <nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn> but i like yo keep them on rar files
[11:13] <BlueDevil> nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn: uncompress the damn music, you're not gaining much space by keeping it compressed with rar or zip
[11:13] <DJGreen> viola compressed
[11:13] <DJGreen> hehe
[11:13] <FlimFlamMan> what is your motivation for putting them in a zip?
[11:13] <nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn> sharing
[11:13] <FlimFlamMan> wha?
[11:13] <nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn> emule
[11:13] <BlueDevil> wtf?!
[11:14] <nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn> amule
[11:14] <nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn> gnutella
[11:14] <lawrence> nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, Oh....I was right then
[11:14] <FlimFlamMan> doesn't take mp3's or what?
[11:14] <BlueDevil> you have lots of albums?
[11:14] <lawrence> nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, that's cool tho
[11:14] <DJGreen> if i were to come up with a gothic name i'd call myself NecroPoop.
[11:14] <bor> SWAT: ah, great, thanks!  have you tried the development version yet?
[11:14] <nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn> the edonkey network works better with large files
[11:15] <FlimFlamMan> so share the zips and let people unzip them on the other end
[11:15] <trappist> nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn: please don't use the enter key for punctuation
[11:15] <trappist> nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn: it would be even better if you'd consider changing your nick
[11:15] <BlueDevil> didn't that network die of too many leechers riding it?! :)
[11:15] <nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn> yes? why?
[11:15] <DJGreen> hehe he said riding it..
[11:16] <nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn> (my first time on irc after 8 years?)
[11:16] <lawrence> DJGreen, Do you have any mp3s of you djing?
[11:16] <DJGreen> uhh ... heh heh heh .. uhh .. yeah like that was cool or somethin .. heh ..
[11:16] <DJGreen> you mean my mixes
[11:16] <FlimFlamMan> so nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn was the first person to get locked up for 8 years for sharing copyrighted material
[11:16] <DJGreen> not on me here
[11:16] <DJGreen> i'm on my lappy
[11:16] <lawrence> DJGreen, oh cool
[11:16] <BlueDevil> lol@FlimFlamMan
[11:16] <nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn> not in brazil!!!!
[11:17] <trappist> ah, that explains a lot
[11:17] <RezDawg> Does anyone here use xDvdshrink with ubuntu?
[11:17] <Red-Sox> trappist: why do you say it would be better if nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn changed his nick?
[11:17] <nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn> hehehe
[11:17] <DJGreen> i never keep my mp3 on my lappy
[11:17] <lawrence> nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, nice...corruption for the win!
[11:17] <DJGreen> i remotely play them from my home
[11:17] <laurenk> hey
[11:17] <DJGreen> whenever i am at a gig
[11:17] <trappist> Red-Sox: because it's extraordinarily lame?
[11:17] <lawrence> Do you ever listen to your own mixes?
[11:17] <DJGreen> this way peopel can't steal my shit
[11:17] <FlimFlamMan> i used to do that until my broadband provider slashed upload speed
[11:17] <DJGreen> only when i'm really bored
[11:17] <nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn> trapist how i change my nickname?
[11:17] <BlueDevil> DJGreen: riiiight :)
[11:17] <Red-Sox> trappist: ill give you that ;)
[11:17] <DJGreen> i dont like to do the same thing twice
[11:17] <trappist> nickrud: /nick newnick
[11:17] <DJGreen> i'm freelance
[11:17] <trappist> err
[11:18] <Red-Sox> nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn: then register it
[11:18] <trappist> nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn: /nick newnick
[11:18] <BlueDevil> DJGreen: you stream from your home ssl wrapped? :)
[11:18] <DJGreen> nope
[11:18] <trappist> awesome
[11:18] <Red-Sox> nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn: newnick being your next nick
[11:18] <DJGreen> qt server
[11:18] <DJGreen> using osx
[11:18] <Red-Sox> oh
[11:18] <FlimFlamMan> if someone wants to go through the trouble of man-in-the-middle for a NSync track, i say let them
[11:18] <trappist> <3 sophuslie
[11:18] <lawrence> What's qt server....same as KDE's qt?
[11:18] <DJGreen> no
[11:18] <DJGreen> quicktime as in apple's player
[11:19] <DJGreen> quicktime server
[11:19] <lawrence> oh ok
[11:19] <BlueDevil> FlimFlamMan: i was only replying to "<DJGreen> this way peopel can't steal my shit" :)
[11:19] <DJGreen> most dj's use their laptops to play off their mixes
[11:19] <DJGreen> i never leave my mixes on my laptop
[11:20] <DJGreen> if i stepped away it can be copied
[11:20] <DJGreen> so i just ssh to my box at home and tap the quicktime server
[11:20] <DJGreen> and stream them live
[11:20] <njan> DJGreen, lock your laptop when you're away from it?
[11:20] <DJGreen> not when you're running a gig
[11:20] <BlueDevil> you could get a usb key
[11:21] <njan> DJGreen, why not? use an account with a four-character password just for gigs, it'd take seconds to unlock.
[11:21] <DJGreen> you use your laptop to maintain everything even your switchboard and turntables
[11:21] <DJGreen> nah ..
[11:21] <njan> DJGreen, and that way you wouldn't have the worry that if your connectivity died, you'd be musicless.
[11:21] <DJGreen> i haven't had any trouble
[11:22] <shinu> why would a program tell me it cant open some high ports for listening?
[11:22] <seriesx> In a terminal, how do I handle filenames that start with "-" ? GUI's can handle them but I don't know how to type
[11:22] <njan> DJGreen, well, since you're still doing it that way, I'd expect that. :-P
[11:22] <shinu> netstat |grep port_number doesnt return anything
[11:22] <DJGreen> to me ssh is the easiest way
[11:22] <njan> DJGreen, it's quite an elegant way, but I wouldn't do it that way, personally.
[11:22] <navarone> DJGreen, you can even get fingerprint scanning usb drives...you can put media on the usb and no one can get it without fingerscan
[11:22] <njan> navarone, but once playing someone could come along and copy it
[11:22] <njan> navarone, which I believe is what he's worried about.
[11:22] <FlimFlamMan> DJGreen, i'd be worried that there'd be a network issue during a gig
[11:22] <DJGreen> well my purpose isnt really security
[11:22] <popey> how would they copy it?
[11:23] <njan> popey, usb key?
[11:23] <popey> just disable the usb ports to stop idle plugging
[11:23] <DJGreen> how it's all hardlined
[11:23] <BlueDevil> seriesx: escape it
[11:23] <SWAT> bor, no not yet. What version of cdrtools is currently on my system? It's not a package so how can I check?
[11:23] <DJGreen> there's no wireless
[11:23] <seriesx> BlueDevil, how?
[11:23] <FlimFlamMan> wireless or not
[11:23] <popey> rename the usbcore.ko module :)
[11:23] <njan> FlimFlamMan, ditto, me too.
[11:23] <bor> SWAT: you can check it with cdrecord --version
[11:23] <njan> Having worked for an ISP I know wayyy better than to rely on one internet connection, especially a consumer one, for anything like that ;)
[11:23] <FlimFlamMan> "and now, DJGreen will entertain us with some magic tricks."
[11:24] <DJGreen> i'm not worried about that anyway .. i just ssh into my computer and stream
[11:24] <SWAT> bor, that would be 2.01.01a01
[11:24] <DJGreen> no point on elaborating technicality
[11:24] <BlueDevil> seriesx: \-
[11:24] <njan> DJGreen, what *would* you do if the internet connection died?
[11:24] <Jxpx> someone know how can i put a ackick in a chanel (i am the founder of course)
[11:24] <seriesx> dousn't work
[11:24] <FlimFlamMan> soft-shoe?
[11:24] <DJGreen> just like any gig continue the show
[11:24] <MeeKs> im looking to mess with linux a bit, would ubuntu be a good start? or something like mandrake beter
[11:24] <phyburn> nice i have a ununtu desktop up
[11:24] <DJGreen> like the power goes out
[11:24] <phyburn> byby W$!
[11:24] <DJGreen> you do it manually
[11:25] <DJGreen> the show doesnt stop
[11:25] <njan> DJGreen, how, if you didn't have an internet connection?
[11:25] <FlimFlamMan> with what? the ubuntu log-off jingle?
[11:25] <Jxpx> someone know how can i put a ackick in a chanel (i am the founder of course)?
[11:25] <njan> Jxpx, you asked that already.
[11:25] <Jxpx> so ?
[11:25] <bor> SWAT: hm, the same version the package in dapper has
[11:25] <Killer3k> Meeks - Ubuntu should be fine
[11:25] <njan> Jxpx, so it's annoying your asking it again - I was typing you a response.
[11:25] <DJGreen> if i didnt have interent there's the love of dvd
[11:25] <MeeKs> ive never used before
[11:25] <Jxpx> ok
[11:25] <FlimFlamMan> oh
[11:25] <Jxpx> thanks
[11:25] <DJGreen> *internet
[11:25] <SWAT> bor, that means the development version (mention in the comment) is far older and the stable version (after that) is used in Ubuntu Breezy. Still strange the error persists
[11:25] <MeeKs> i might try a live cd
[11:25] <Killer3k> Meeks: I never used it until an hour ago :D
[11:25] <DJGreen> but that's cuttin it a bit i dont like to carry my stuff with me
[11:25] <MeeKs> how do you like
[11:26] <DJGreen> other than my quip
[11:26] <navarone> njan, his internet connection was only needed to access offsite box and stream mixes from it...I think without connection he could just contuinue using whatever music he had onhand
[11:26] <Killer3k> Meeks: I am very VERY impressed
[11:26] <Jxpx> someone know how can i put a ban in a channel?
[11:26] <MeeKs> ill have to go get the ppc version
[11:26] <DJGreen> digital is better than old lp
[11:26] <Ishotweb> errrr so my wine install is asking me for the root password.... that's the password i've been using every time i ran something with sudo, right?
[11:26] <njan> navarone, so if he's carrying stuff on him, unless he has MAC-controlled tiers of music, that makes the online stream redundant. :P
[11:26] <DJGreen> heh ..
[11:26] <Killer3k> Meeks: you have a mac?
[11:26] <Ishotweb> becuase that password isn't working
[11:26] <DJGreen> but lp is classic and every dj knows
[11:26] <ompaul> Jxpx, you need to be an op
[11:26] <GNAM> where's BEN COLLINS?
[11:26] <Jxpx> i am
[11:26] <BlueDevil> Ishotweb: no, that's not the password
[11:26] <Jxpx> i am ompaul
[11:27] <MeeKs> yea killer i do
[11:27] <jordan121887> what is the easiest way to install network manageer, and where can i get it?
[11:27] <DJGreen> but let's get something straight y'all i'm no big guy here i'm a little man with skills of dj
[11:27] <SWAT> bor, do you have any great idea's how to solve this? :(
[11:27] <njan> Jxpx, /mode #channel +b user!ident@ost.tld
[11:27] <DJGreen> graduated from NYU
[11:27] <BlueDevil> Ishotweb: the password you use with sudo is you owm
[11:27] <njan> s/ost/host/
[11:27] <BlueDevil> own
[11:27] <Killer3k> Meeks: well I aint sure how it will go on that, but on my x86 it worked flawlessly
[11:27] <Jxpx> ompaul,  so u know how can i ban?
[11:27] <Lewix> hi all
[11:27] <navarone> njan>beyond the technical...the point is he would only use internet connectiivty to accessa file he had offsite...playing music otherwise does not require it
[11:27] <DJGreen> so what i do is for living not for show
[11:27] <DJGreen> :)
[11:27] <MeeKs> should actually work better than x86
[11:28] <MeeKs> since hardware is proprietary
[11:28] <ompaul> Jxpx, I don't but my client does - xchat
[11:28] <Ishotweb> BlueDevil, ahhh i understand i was mistaking sudo for root
[11:28] <bor> SWAT: no, not really, I'll look at the sources for the USE_LARGEFILES define and how to enable it
[11:28] <Killer3k> Meeks: It even went and picked up that I have extra buttons on my keyboard and programed that perfect!!!
[11:28] <Jxpx> ok
[11:28] <DJGreen> here's the plus .. i use ubuntu on my lappy
[11:28] <Lewix> I need some help
[11:28] <njan> navarone, right, and my point was that he said the reason he didn't use music locally was to stop people copying it. If he has stuff onsite anyway, in case the online feed goes down, it makes the online feed redundant because he *has* music onsite.
[11:28] <Lewix> I've downloaded the dvd iso
[11:28] <Killer3k> Meeks: yes i agree, it should work better
[11:28] <MeeKs> yeah what kind of laptop would i need to run  ubuntu
[11:28] <Lewix> I mean I can't dl it
[11:28] <ompaul> Lewix, can you put the question in one line - the whole one
[11:28] <njan> MeeKs, practically any new laptop will run it
[11:29] <MeeKs> specs
[11:29] <MeeKs> ?
[11:29] <BlueDevil> Ishotweb: you can set the root password using "sudo passwd root"
[11:29] <njan> MeeKs, are you asking about a new PC re: what sort you should get, or asking about a second hand PC for a minimum spec?
[11:29] <bor> SWAT: there is a new version at ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/alpha/
[11:29] <opnsrc> I moved accessibility in the menu editor to Office
[11:29] <bor> SWAT: a03
[11:29] <navarone> njan> the music he said he didn't want  to have people access was his mixes...which he did not carry on gigs...hence the steraming if neccessary
[11:29] <Ishotweb> BlueDevil,  thanks for the help
[11:29] <opnsrc> (I'm using Ubuntu)
[11:29] <BlueDevil> Ishotweb: so then you would be able to use that
[11:29] <DJGreen> believe it or not my lappy is powerbook 17
[11:29] <MeeKs> njan: i want to get a laptop for it
[11:29] <BlueDevil> Ishotweb: yw
[11:29] <jordan121887> can anyone tell me how to put network manager on my computer>>>
[11:29] <DJGreen> an apple lapbox
[11:29] <DJGreen> :)
[11:29] <MeeKs> but dont want to spend a lot
[11:29] <Killer3k> Meeks: you could use any i suppose
[11:29] <ompaul> Ishotweb, you should not do that -  you should use sudo
[11:29] <opnsrc> (accidently) so I went back to change it back and when I do it still shows under Office (though with the Menu editor it does not)
[11:29] <njan> MeeKs, virtually any laptop you buy will probably run ubuntu.
[11:29] <opnsrc> how do I fix it?
[11:29] <DJGreen> its for the lady magnet affect ya know
[11:29] <DJGreen> glow the apple and get the babes
[11:29] <SWAT> bor, would you do that for me? (look at the sources) And I know about the newer development version (would be logical if it would've been fixed in the stable though)
[11:30] <Lewix> arf
[11:30] <Ishotweb> ompaul, in this case i need a root password
[11:30] <Kruz> i know this isnt exactly on topic but anyone here good with ettercap and could answer a question or two
[11:30] <njan> MeeKs, find the laptop, google it or look it up on the ubuntu wiki to see if there are any issues with that particular laptop, but I'd imagine any budget laptop from dell or toshiba would run ubuntu fine.
[11:30] <MeeKs> cool
[11:30] <bor> SWAT: mkisofs/Makefile:CPPOPTS +=-DUSE_LARGEFILES, seems to be if this version could work
[11:30] <MeeKs> is there a spec page?
[11:30] <navarone> DJGreen, the ladies like macs I take it...lol
[11:30] <kibab_> hey all... what's the best way to configure a network card post-install? I can manually run ifconfig/dhcpc and get it up.... but I would presume there is something that will create the necessary config files for me?
[11:30] <BlueDevil> ompaul: don't get all pedantic about sudo/su :P
[11:30] <ompaul> Ishotweb, if you do that and you need to start the machine in single user mode youwill be locked out
[11:30] <njan> Kruz, ask, and if someone knows hnow to answer, they will.
[11:30] <SWAT> bor, which version? (current ubuntu version?:)
[11:30] <UncleD> Am I correct in that if I format a floppy disk and put files on it in WINDOWSXP and then load it up on ubuntu, ill be unable to mount it and access those files?
[11:30] <DJGreen> oh i was just messin about the lady part hopefully and most deffinitely not geeks
[11:30] <njan> MeeKs, there's a laptop compatibility page on the wiki somewhere.
[11:30] <BlueDevil> ompaul: why would he be locked out?
[11:30] <DJGreen> i'd hate to bash in geeks for liking my laptop and not my gig
[11:31] <MeeKs> oh i meant general specs
[11:31] <MeeKs> system requirements
[11:31] <ompaul> BlueDevil, do it and see if you can get in without the password ...... that is how it works
[11:31] <njan> MeeKs, any laptop you buy new today will run ubuntu
[11:31] <bor> SWAT: 2.01.01a03 (ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/alpha/cdrtools-2.01.01a03.tar.gz)
[11:31] <njan> MeeKs, you couldn't buy a new laptop which was below the ubuntu minimum requirements.
[11:31] <BlueDevil> ompaul: without what password?
[11:31] <bor> SWAT: wait a second, I'll test it on a 4 GB file
[11:31] <Kruz> OK, ive been running ettercap for a while, can get unencrypted clear text pw's that have been on my network, but i was wondering about / how to get the encrypted web PWs (gmail, hotmail, etc) i have heard it is doable, i just havent been able to find it anywhere on the net
[11:31] <UncleD> Anyone know about mounting flopys formatted in windowsXP on ubuntu? Is it a problem?
[11:31] <MeeKs> i want to nkow what ubuntus sys requirements are
[11:31] <navarone> Meeks...you can try live cd first and see how hardware detection goes
[11:31] <BlueDevil> ompaul: he has both passwords: his and root's
[11:31] <njan> Kruz, gmail and hotmail are both encrypted with tls/ssl
[11:31] <DJGreen> ettercap .. isnt nmap better?
[11:31] <SWAT> bor, try 4.2 or 4.3 gb (just in case :P)
[11:32] <njan> Kruz, you'd have to actually crack https in order to do that, and that's hard.
[11:32] <kibab_> UncleD: no problem... just mount them msdos or vfat... (or auto)
[11:32] <ompaul> BlueDevil, the newley choosen root password - what happens is people forget it cose they don't use it daily - we see this time and again
[11:32] <njan> DJGreen, they're completely different applications. :P
[11:32] <compDo> is there a tool to display all available modes (resolution) my video card supports?
[11:32] <DJGreen> that's what i thought
[11:32] <pcnrmn> irc.immortal-anime.net
[11:32] <Ishotweb> i'd assume i'm smart enough to remember two different passwords
[11:32] <bor> SWAT: ok :)
[11:32] <Lewix> I would like to dl the dvd,where can I?
[11:32] <DJGreen> you know i need to ask this ..
[11:32] <BlueDevil> ompaul: you cand invent software to be immune to stupidity
[11:32] <ompaul> Ishotweb, your call - you don't need it so why use
[11:32] <DJGreen> how can you view wmv files on ubuntu?
[11:33] <UncleD> Is it possible to mount a windowsXP floppy disk on ubuntu that contains files ?
[11:33] <Ishotweb> ompaul, then what am i supposed to do if my wine install is asking for my root password?
[11:33] <DJGreen> i know for pc folks its rather easy
[11:33] <DJGreen> but what can i use ?
[11:33] <MeeKs> convert them
[11:33] <ompaul> Ishotweb, sudo it
[11:33] <Kruz> i see, i was reading some docs on dsniff and it said by using hosts, it could see them plain text, by tunneling, i tried a combo of dsniff, arpspoof, webmitm, like the doc said, but couldnt get it, is there a way to do it that way, or am i SOL
[11:33] <navarone> UncleD, you should be able to
[11:33] <FlimFlamMan> UncleD, why not just try?  doesn't xp make vfat format floppies by default?
[11:33] <ompaul> Ishotweb, did you install it using synaptic / apt-get ?
[11:33] <Necrocide> I got a question about installing ClearLooks with the .deb package on Ubuntu forums, I see NOTHING changed???
[11:33] <ompaul> Ishotweb, or did you compile it?
[11:33] <UncleD> FlimFlamMan - I guess maybe that was the problem, old floppies?
[11:34] <UncleD> FlimFlam: I did try and it hung for 10 minutes
[11:34] <UncleD> it never mounted
[11:34] <Ishotweb> ompaul, i needed to modify the source, so i couldn't just install the binary. i compiled it
[11:34] <jason__> Hello all! Just installed Ubuntu 5.10 yesterday. Decided to get a wireless card today.
[11:34] <BlueDevil> ompaul: besides if he is worried he will forget the root password he can set it the same as his own; not a good practice though
[11:34] <kibab_> UncleD: perhaps it's bad then... linux doesn't have any problems reading floppies (xp or otherwise)
[11:34] <opnsrc> anyone know how to make the menu editor in sync with the menu?
[11:34] <Ishotweb> ompaul, if i sudo it it aborts, telling me it's not advisable to run wineinstall as root.
[11:34] <opnsrc> or th ething that says edit menus
[11:34] <UncleD> kibab_ - maybe its due to the disks being old floppys?
[11:34] <opnsrc> for some reason it's not in sync
[11:34] <kibab_> UncleD: very likely.
[11:34] <FlimFlamMan> UncleD, floppies *suck*, especially old ones.  i've had better luck formatting new floppies on a linux box, then using them in xp.  sometimes floppies work best in the floppy drive unit that formats them
[11:34] <UncleD> kibab, so ill basically need a new floppy
[11:35] <ompaul> Ishotweb, try this:: sudo -i  :: then try the instll
[11:35] <kibab_> UncleD: yeah... basically.
[11:35] <ompaul> Ishotweb, but consider what you are doing first
[11:35] <UncleD> these floppys are probably 5 years old
[11:35] <jason__> Found a tutorial to add it but it says before doing anything to add ndiswrapper-utils but I cannot find it in the Package Manager
[11:35] <FlimFlamMan> UncleD, if they're the *only* floppies you have, try formatting them as vfat on the linux side, then use them on the windows side
[11:36] <kibab_> Is there a tool for configuring network cards / changing network settings in ubuntu?
[11:36] <jason__> How do I get ndiswrapper-utils if it's not in the Synaptics Package Manager?
[11:36] <DJGreen> anyone play doom3 yet on ubuntu?
[11:36] <DJGreen> :)
[11:36] <ompaul> Ishotweb, did you get the source for wine on ubuntu or the source from the site? just curious well you know my thinking at this stage
[11:36] <lysis> hey so, my audio turns itself off overnight
[11:36] <lysis> is there a way to fix this without rebooting?
[11:36] <FlimFlamMan> i'm a RTCW:ET man myself
[11:36] <SWAT> bor, how is it going?
[11:36] <jason__> How do I get ndiswrapper-utils if it's not in the Synaptics Package Manager?
[11:36] <Ishotweb> ompaul, i got the source from ubuntu.
[11:36] <ompaul> hmm
[11:36] <BlueDevil> lysis: did you check mixer settings?
[11:37] <lysis> sudo alsamixer  ?
[11:37] <BlueDevil> lysis: that for one
[11:37] <Ishotweb> ompaul,  are you just thinking i might be running something i shouldn't, and thus i should be careful about running it under admin
[11:37] <FlimFlamMan> openoffice.org downloads have topped 50 million
[11:37] <bor> SWAT: have to install some dependency packages first, should be finished soon
[11:37] <jason__> How do I get ndiswrapper-utils if it's not in the Synaptics Package Manager?
[11:37] <BlueDevil> FlimFlamMan: openoffice sucks
[11:37] <lysis> BlueDevil, nothing out of the ordinary my friend
[11:38] <BlueDevil> lysis: is sound working now?
[11:38] <lysis> no
[11:38] <lysis> i didn't reboot
[11:38] <ompaul> Ishotweb, well you would have been doing that anyway - I just hate to think of all those good linux cycles going to waste on a .exe :-) we can leave it there or talk on #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[11:38] <lysis> :)
[11:38] <lysis> i wanted to try to fix it without rebooting
[11:38] <lysis> if i do it will work
[11:38] <Lovecraft> que taaaaal
[11:38] <Lovecraft> grigos qliaos
[11:38] <Necrocide> I got a question about installing ClearLooks with the .deb package on Ubuntu forums, I see NOTHING changed???
[11:38] <BlueDevil> lysis: so, the channels aren't muted, etc
[11:38] <Lovecraft> xD
[11:38] <BlueDevil> lysis: all looks normal?
[11:39] <lysis> BlueDevil, this is correct.  is there something else i should check?  maybe if i reloaded audio?
[11:39] <SWAT> bor, I'm using breezy and I don't want to uhhh... screw it up :)  So I'm already gratefull that you are doing it
[11:39] <mcphail> Where's ubotu?
[11:39] <mekd> hi
[11:39] <SWAT> bor, btw, cdrtools is just make and make install right?
[11:39] <owner989> k3b is so much better than gnomebaker
[11:39] <owner989> k3b is even better than nero
[11:39] <BlueDevil> lysis: what are the exact symptoms?
[11:39] <SWAT> k3b is far superiour to gnomebaker
[11:39] <Lovecraft> qui wa pasa aca gringo reqliaos
[11:39] <Lovecraft> xD
[11:39] <owner989> gnomebaker doesnt even work for me
[11:39] <mekd> can anybody help me?
[11:39] <lysis> no audio output period after i leave the computer overnight. i watched a dvd and fell asleep.
[11:39] <owner989> it fails without even writing anything
[11:39] <jason__> How do I get ndiswrapper-utils if it's not in the Synaptics Package Manager?
[11:40] <lysis> today (16 hours after the movie was over) i come to it and audio doesn't work
[11:40] <lysis> it's happened before, and if i reboot all is well without a problem
[11:40] <mcphail> lysis: try "killall esd"
[11:40] <dave> jason__: What are your sources?
[11:40] <BlueDevil> lysis: it might be that the sound board is in sleep mode
[11:40] <lightbright> whats the command to install mozilla + composer pls?
[11:40] <BlueDevil> you cand check bios settings
[11:40] <kibab_> jason__: then you would need to add a different apt-source.
[11:41] <lysis> i tried "killall esd" in term and it did nothing
[11:41] <lysis> esd: nothing killed
[11:41] <dave> jason__: Do you have multiple apt repositories set up in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[11:41] <jason__> I'm a total newb...how would I do that? Sources?
[11:41] <Seveas> !dance
[11:41] <Ubugtu> I guess dance is o/-< o, Seveas
[11:41] <jason__> Checking now...
[11:41] <BlueDevil> lysis: cat /bin/bash > /dev/dsp
[11:41] <kibab_> jason__: I've only booted ubuntu twice so far, but I think there is a tool for doing that.
[11:41] <einPaule> Ive got a similar problem to lysis, after a couple of songs on AmaroK, the sound goes bad... the same thing after some time talking on skype
[11:41] <einPaule> owner989, you might remember my sound setup... any ideas?
[11:41] <lysis> OMG MAKE IT STOP
[11:41] <kibab_> jason__: sorry I can't be of much use... I'm very familiar with Linux, but just trying out ubuntu for the first time.
[11:41] <phyburn> how would i enable root
[11:42] <phyburn> i just installed and it never asked for a root passwd
[11:42] <BlueDevil> lysis: hahaa :) we've established your sound works :D
[11:42] <kibab_> phyburn: it puts you in the admin group for sudo...
[11:42] <lysis> how do we unestablish!!!!
[11:42] <lysis> lol
[11:42] <lysis> unestablish unestablish
[11:42] <BlueDevil> lysis: did you hear sound?
[11:42] <jason__> dave: I've got the default one that comes with the install.
[11:42] <phyburn> kibab_ kk thanks so I should then be able to run `sudo passwd root`
[11:42] <lysis> a godawful errr eeee screeeech
[11:42] <mcphail> Seveas: you have skype in your repository?
[11:42] <navarone> lysis...try sudo killall
[11:43] <kibab_> phyburn: btw, you can sudo su and become root and set a password... but that might be against the ubunto philosophy
[11:43] <Seveas> mcphail, yes
[11:43] <kibab_> phyburn: :)
[11:43] <william> How do you enable 3d graphic acceleration?
[11:43] <BlueDevil> lysis: your hardware works
[11:43] <BlueDevil> lysis: what doesn't work?
[11:43] <kibab_> time to go pick up my kids... later all!
[11:43] <dave> jason__: You will probably need to have more than just the default repositories.  Do you know how to add repositiories?
[11:43] <lysis> noises from programs
[11:43] <lysis> how do i turn this god forsaken noise off? lol
[11:43] <mcphail> Seveas: would you consider adding a .deb for the skype_dsp_hijacker? The current version of skype is buggy without it.
[11:43] <jason__> No, sorry.
[11:43] <BlueDevil> lysis: hit Ctrl-C
[11:43] <phyburn> kibab_ y, im new to ununto
[11:43] <FlimFlamMan> oh man, this isn't gonna fit
[11:43] <phyburn> ubunto
[11:44] <Seveas> mcphail, if the thing is open source, sure
[11:44] <lysis> what does that do?
[11:44] <lysis> oo the noise is gone
[11:44] <BlueDevil> lysis: it stops the cat :)
[11:44] <mcphail> Seveas: GPL (and i must add, i'm not connected to it in any way)
[11:44] <dave> jason__: I don't know how to in synaptic because I do not use gui, but I do know how to with a text editor.
[11:44] <lysis> ahh
[11:44] <lysis> good man
[11:44] <Seveas> mcphail, is it packaged already?
[11:44] <roproom1> breezy kvm serial mouse how to detect???
[11:44] <erUSUL> Seveas, sorry to bother you but why have you "backported" tetex packages? (in your repository). Is there any problem with the ones shipped in breezy?
[11:44] <BlueDevil> lysis: lucky you I didn't write "cat /dev/urandom >/dev/dsp" :P
[11:45] <Seveas> erUSUL, tetex 3 has quite a few new features
[11:45] <phyburn> kibab_  what is the package mannager for ubunto
[11:45] <mcphail> Seveas: no - it's a simple script and lib. I've never rolled a .deb before, so i wouldn't know what to do
[11:45] <BlueDevil> roproom1: what do you mean?
[11:45] <lysis> i guess?  lol
[11:46] <lysis> BlueDevil, any ideas why my programs won't make noise until i reboot then?
[11:46] <erUSUL> Seveas, are there any problems installing it (e.g with LyX)?
[11:46] <Seveas> mcphail, mail me the sources and I'll package it
[11:46] <BlueDevil> lysis: all your programs?
[11:46] <BlueDevil> lysis: what have you tried?
[11:46] <lysis> hmm minteresting
[11:46] <Seveas> erUSUL, debbugs mentions quite a few upgrade problems for debian users
[11:46] <lysis> now rhythmbox works after you had me do that cat thing
[11:46] <lysis> but gaim still doesn't.
[11:46] <jason__> dave: Found how to add one in synaptic...what do I need to add?
[11:46] <mcphail> Seveas: http://195.38.3.142:6502/skype/ (and i'll email as well)
[11:46] <Seveas> !snake
[11:46] <Ubugtu> Schnaaakkeeeeeee, schnaaaaaaaakkeeee, oh no it's a schnaaaaaaaaaakkeeeeee
[11:46] <roproom1> breezy install with kvm switch doesn't detect serial mouse
[11:47] <dave> jason__: I would add the universe and the multiverse
[11:47] <erUSUL> Seveas, ty
[11:47] <Seveas> roproom1, it doesn't detect serial mouse at all, kvm or not
[11:47] <roproom1> not at all
[11:48] <lysis> BlueDevil, anything you might recommend for that?
[11:48] <jason__> dave: They are actually checkboxes in synaptic so I just had to check them, reloading lists now.
[11:48] <dave> jason__: I have the default and the universe and the multivers repositories and I CAN install ndiswrapper-utils
[11:48] <dave> jason__: cool, that's easy then
[11:48] <dave> jason__: once you have added these repositories, make sure that you update your list
[11:49] <BlueDevil> lysis: "ps axww | grep esd"
[11:49] <iiki> is there any other good respositories?
[11:49] <jgrieves> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc does anyone know if any gnome GUI preference interact with this location/
[11:49] <mcphail> Seveas: you are dennis@ etc?
[11:49] <jason__> dave: Yep. just did that
[11:49] <Seveas> mcphail, correct
[11:49] <ajmitch> hm
[11:49] <lysis> BlueDevil, lysis@ubuntu:~$ ps axww | grep esd
[11:49] <lysis> 22117 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep esd
[11:49] <dave> iiki: There are tons of good repositories out there...nerim is a good one
[11:49] <jrattner1> When is iTunes ever going to work on linux
[11:50] <Seveas> dave, nerim sucks
[11:50] <lysis> it works right now with crossover office.
[11:50] <Seveas> nerim is god, but not for ubuntu
[11:50] <Seveas> good*
[11:50] <BlueDevil> lysis: then you'd better start esd i guess
[11:50] <dave> jason__: Are you able to find ndiswrappers now
[11:50] <bshumate> jrattner1: probably never
[11:50] <dave> Seveas: A blanket statment like that needs a reason
[11:50] <lysis> BlueDevil,  in terminal "start esd" ?
[11:50] <jrattner1> Is there any way to play songs purchased from iTunes, in linux without using the Hymn project to "decode" them?
[11:50] <dave> Seveas: Oh, for ubuntu...yeah nerim is not all that great
[11:51] <Seveas> dave, nerim builds for debian, on ubuntu it causes dependency errors
[11:51] <BlueDevil> lysis: no, check in the gnome menu for something like sound server
[11:51] <Seveas> cipherfunk and plf are good for Ubuntu
[11:51] <lysis> hmmm
[11:51] <dave> Seveas: I have used nerim with ubuntu in the past and I have had good luck
[11:51] <Seveas> !drake
[11:51] <jason__> Dave: Yes, just installed it. Thanks for the help!
[11:51] <Ubugtu> I guess drake is dragon, Seveas
[11:52] <dave> Seveas: I am also a debian user some of the time, but am starting to be more and more ubuntu
[11:52] <dave> jason__: Cool.  Glad that I could help
[11:52] <Seveas> dave, welcome on the dark side of the moon :)
[11:52] <phyburn_> what file would i edit to change my screen rez I need to go higher then what i have now
[11:52] <bshumate> jrattner1: i would doubt it being AAC is all proprietary-like and whatnot...I only use iTunes for the iPod, so I really cannot say...
[11:52] <rotial> Hi!! how can I create a new user called root with all priviledged, instead of making sudo for everything??? I'm new in Ubuntu
[11:52] <navarone> hmm...any recommendations for lubricant to put on fan bearings to stop whining vibration sound?
[11:52] <UncleD> What is the syntax to format a floppy disk in VFAT format from the terminal prompt?
[11:52] <dave> Seveas: Yeah, it is not so dark though...I have my two sisters using Ubuntu exclusively...I just can't seem to convince my mom
[11:53] <Seveas> what does she use?
[11:53] <dave> Seveas: Windoze
[11:53] <phyburn_> rotial `sudo passwd root` then set a passwd for root becarfull
[11:53] <giggo> help chanel in italian?
[11:53] <Seveas> !it
[11:53] <Seveas> giggo, #ubuntu-it
[11:53] <rotial> thanks
[11:53] <phyburn_> navarone " wd40" lol
[11:53] <insomnd> rotial, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[11:53] <giggo> thanks
[11:54] <Determinist> navarone, WD40
[11:55] <Determinist> navarone, but ... careful, eh?
[11:55] <fr500> hello
[11:55] <fr500> does anyone use gnome-phone-manager?
[11:55] <jeremywhiting> anyone wanna shed some light on what dapper is exactly?  I heard about it while looking for ways to install firefox 1.5
[11:55] <Determinist> jeremywhiting, the next version of ubuntu
[11:55] <fr500> dapper is the next ubuntu version
[11:55] <BlueDevil> jeremywhiting: breezy+1
[11:56] <UncleD> What is the syntax to format a floppy disk in VFAT format from the terminal prompt?
[11:56] <Seveas> !dapper
[11:56] <insomnd> ubuntu version next :p
[11:56] <Ubugtu> I guess dapper is the next ubuntu version, Seveas
[11:56] <bshumate> it's when ya get all dressed up and spiffy, and put some eau de toilet on!!!
[11:56] <fr500> !dapper
[11:56] <Ubugtu> It has been said that dapper is the next ubuntu version, fr500
[11:56] <jeremywhiting> oh, got it, so you can use the dapper apt sources to install firefox, that makes sense actually
[11:56] <jeremywhiting> thanks guys
[11:56] <insomnd> jeremywhiting not recommended
[11:56] <kbrooks> Can someone explain this to me.
[11:56] <reupbert> hey. may i ask support questions here?
[11:56] <BlueDevil> jeremywhiting: dont
[11:56] <Determinist> dapper backports repos available?
[11:56] <jeremywhiting> yeah, I figured that
[11:56] <insomnd> jeremywhiting, just download tgz and unpack.. should be fine
[11:56] <sloucher> willl firefox 1.5 come out for breezy?
[11:56] <kbrooks> i wrote  a document in word with a table
[11:57] <BlueDevil> jeremywhiting: there's a howto for installing firefox 1.5 on breezy, follow that
[11:57] <kbrooks> and when i open it in abiword
[11:57] <Seveas> sloucher, probably not
[11:57] <insomnd> reupbert, dont ask to ask just ask
[11:57] <fr500> whats wrong with the firefox we have now?
[11:57] <jeremywhiting> I wont, just trying to understand ubuntu after coming from gentoo
[11:57] <SWAT> reupbert, don't ask to ask just ask!
[11:57] <BlueDevil> jeremywhiting: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:57] <jeremywhiting> thanks BlueDevil
[11:57] <dave> jeremywhiting: welcome
[11:57] <sloucher> newer is better?
[11:57] <UncleD> BlueDevil, What is the syntax to format a floppy disk in VFAT format from the terminal prompt?
[11:57] <SWAT> reupbert, otherwise you'll be ignored indefinately
[11:57] <jeremywhiting> and dave
[11:57] <reupbert> what is the difference between gstreamer based totem and xine? the codecs?
[11:57] <BlueDevil> fr500: it's shitty slow
[11:57] <Seveas> jeremywhiting, welcome to the land of the sane :)
[11:57] <kbrooks> Can someone explain this to me.
[11:57] <kbrooks> i wrote  a document in word with a table
[11:57] <kbrooks> and when i open it in abiword
[11:57] <jgrieves> is there a native X app to chose cursors?
[11:57] <Determinist> fr500, nothing, but there's a new version with lotsof fixes, so why not?
[11:57] <dermot> hey all!
[11:57] <jgrieves> like Xgetcursor
[11:57] <SWAT> bor, still alive?
[11:58] <kbrooks> the table is enlongated
[11:58] <kbrooks> to a 2nd page
[11:58] <jeremywhiting> thanks Seveas: you a convert as well then?
[11:58] <jgrieves> or just xset
[11:58] <kbrooks> and i have 3 columns in this table
[11:58] <kbrooks> AND
[11:58] <Determinist> kbrooks, do you have a question? a point?
[11:58] <reupbert> kbrooks: abiword probably doesn't have full Microsoft Office .doc support
[11:58] <insomnd> reupbert, kbrooks:: nothing does :p
[11:58] <reupbert> lol
[11:58] <insomnd> no need tho
[11:58] <BlueDevil> UncleD: mkfs.vfat /dev/fd0 i guess
[11:58] <kbrooks> 1 of the 3 rows are blank
[11:58] <cloud_> hi everyone
[11:58] <rotial> Somebody has worked with the omnetpp simulator???
[11:58] <kbrooks> on the second page
[11:59] <cloud_> gotta a question
[11:59] <cloud_> where do i go to find out the supported hardware list of ubuntu?
[11:59] <dermot> anybody know were i can get some addresses for the streaming radio in rhythmbox  0.9.0 ?
[11:59] <kbrooks> er, 2 of the 3 rows
[11:59] <Determinist> cloud_, google for it, or use the wiki
[11:59] <psi> has anyone tried the airport extreme driver yet? :)
[11:59] <reupbert> dermot: shoutcast.com
[11:59] <reupbert> what is the difference between gstreamer based totem and xine? the codecs?
[11:59] <cloud_> i have been googling fo over 30 miuntes
[11:59] <jgrieves> dermot use stream tuner
[11:59] <kbrooks> reupbert, .. but abiword is open source!
[11:59] <cloud_> for*
[12:00] <jgrieves> dermot sudo apt-get install streamtuner
[12:00] <lightbright> airport extreme driver?
[12:00] <Determinist> reupbert, basically, yes, it's a different set of libs... a different player
[12:00] <cloud_> boon a ton mi