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bshumatewell, bhuvan had suggested i use the role attribute for emphasis tags, and frankly, i have no idea how, and i hate to keep pestering him with questions! ;-)12:06
mdkepester him!12:06
mdke:)12:06
mdkethanks for your recent work bshumate, it's great to see new contributors such as yourself12:07
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bshumatehey, i am having a ball!  really enjoying ubuntu on my thinkpad, and hoping for an edubuntu PPC version to try out with my kids!  this is by far my favorite Linux distro of all time!  i am happy to be a part of it, and finally start giving back to the community!12:10
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mdkebshumate, awesome12:14
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LaserJock_meetinmdke: ping?01:54
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bshumatehey thanks for all the help bhuvan!  i am posting a mostly complete version of the server guide windows networking part in just a second06:07
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LaserJockhi theCore06:26
theCorehi06:26
theCoreLaserJock, i started to make the guide in multiple files already06:28
LaserJocktheCore: cool06:28
LaserJocktheCore: I became a Ubuntu member this morning so I hope that I will be able to commit to the doc-team repo soon06:30
theCoreLaserJock, you will need to fill the legal stuff because i don't know what to put06:30
theCoreLaserJock, nice06:30
LaserJocktheCore: no problem, we just need content right now ;-)06:30
theCoreLaserJock, so what did you got ?06:31
theCoreLaserJock, do you have additional privileges?06:33
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theCoreLaserJock, do you think it would be good to merge the Introduction into Getting Started ?06:40
LaserJocktheCore: not sure. we will have to see.06:41
LaserJocktheCore: you have to be a member before you can be a MOTU and I think you also get a @ubuntu.com email address and irc hostname cloak06:42
theCoreLaserJock, cool06:43
theCoreLaserJock, i hope i could be too a ubuntu member06:44
theCoreLaserJock, how much time it took you to become a Ubuntu member ?06:45
LaserJockright now I am working on a email to the ubuntu-motu mailing list asking for feedback on our outline06:47
LaserJocktheCore: you need to have contributed for about 2 months06:47
theCoreLaserJock, it isn't too long, I though it was 1 or 2 years of active contribution :)06:49
theCoreLaserJock, good idea06:50
theCoreLaserJock, there is quite a lot of docs about packaging on the wiki ...06:56
LaserJocktheCore: yes, that is good an bad07:01
theCoreLaserJock, why ?07:05
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LaserJocktheCore: well, it is good to have info, but on the wiki info can get scattered and can be out-dated or incorrect sometimes07:15
theCoreLaserJock, ah okay07:16
LaserJocktheCore: I think the wiki is better as a drawing board and collaboration tool before making things more permanent and polished07:18
theCoreLaserJock, that what I though, writing in DocBook in quite unnatural07:19
theCoreLaserJock, does it happen to you sometime to get the "gobbing character" bug in gedit ?07:28
LaserJocktheCore: I don't use gedit very much so I haven't seen that07:28
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LaserJocktheCore: ok, I gotta get to bed. Email me what you've done so far when you have the chance.07:42
theCoreLaserJock, okay07:44
theCoreLaserJock, good night07:45
LaserJockgood night07:45
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jjesseanyone around?07:51
Burgworkyep07:53
jjessejust seems awful quiet :008:01
Burgworkbeen not working on Ubuntu recently08:06
jjesseme either, been really busy w/ work and stuff08:07
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LaserJockmdke: ping?08:28
mdkeLaserJock, pong08:40
mdkeactually, no, brb08:41
mdke(sorry)08:41
LaserJocklol08:43
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LaserJockhi theCore 09:31
theCoreLaserJock, hi09:31
theCoreLaserJock, anything new ?09:32
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LaserJocktheCore: not really. I'm busy with real life work, etc. I haven't got much of a reply from the MOTU yet but probably take a bit.09:33
theCoreLaserJock, are you chemist?09:34
LaserJocktheCore: yes, 4th Phd student in Physical Chemistry09:35
LaserJock4th year, that is09:36
theCoreLaserJock, wow, i wanna be a chemist too09:36
LaserJocktheCore: really, cool09:37
theCoreLaserJock, or something related to science09:37
theCoreLaserJock, yea, i even pushed my college entry by 1 year, just to get Natural Science course09:38
LaserJockcool09:39
mdkeLaserJock, now, sup?09:49
LaserJockmdke: well, I got membership yesterday09:49
mdkeyeah cool, sorry about my failure to turn up09:49
LaserJockmdke: np, I made it pretty easily I think. They didn't even ask me any questions really09:50
mdke:)09:50
mdkeknew it09:50
LaserJockI also emailed the ubuntu-motu mailing list about the packaging guide.09:52
LaserJocktheCore and I worked on an outline at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuPackagingGuide/Outline09:52
mdkerocking09:53
jjesseLaserJock: that outline looks great09:58
LaserJockmdke: I think perhaps jgotangco emailed elmo about getting me commit acesss to the repo09:58
LaserJockjjesse: thanks, feel free to send feedback09:59
mdkecool10:00
mdkeLaserJock, that should be done via an rt request10:00
LaserJockmdke: ?10:00
mdkeapplication for commit access should be done via an rt request, if possible10:02
LaserJockmdke: what is rt?10:02
mdkeit is the system of admin requests that canonical have10:02
mdkei guess it is "request tracker"10:02
LaserJockmdke: so do I need to do anything for that?10:03
mdkeLaserJock, maybe jerome did that10:03
jjesserequest tracker is www.bestpractical.com product10:03
jjesseits a great helpdesk software10:03
jjessewe use it at work10:03
HrdwrBoBwe used perldesk10:04
HrdwrBoB(though at that stage it was free and we heavily modified it)10:05
LaserJockmdke: so should I join the ubuntu-doc LP team?10:08
mdkesure10:08
LaserJocktheCore: what sections have you worked on so far?10:14
theCoreLaserJock, the preface, the intro, and toc10:14
jjessedo you guys need someone to commit something?10:15
theCoreLaserJock, but they really beta right now10:15
LaserJocktheCore: k10:15
LaserJockjjesse: I think we are early enough that we will wait until I get commit access10:15
jjesseLaserJock: that's cool, i can commit if you need it10:15
LaserJockas theCore said, it's pretty beta right now ;-)10:15
LaserJockjjesse: thanks for the offer10:15
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theCoreLaserJock, editing a DocBook is really a nightmare ... every single tag must be correctly used or the whole thing don't work10:27
mdke:)10:28
mdkeperfectionism :)10:28
theCoremdke, maybe ...10:29
LaserJocktheCore: if you want you can just work on the actual content and let me worry about the Docbook until you get comfortable with it10:29
Burgworkmdke, shall I approve LaserJock into the LP doc team?10:31
mdkeBurgwork, sure thing10:31
theCoreLaserJock, i'm quite ok with the DocBook format, the thing is if I want to anything to the formating I need to make sure every tags I remove or add are correctly closed10:31
Burgworkmdke, LaserJock approved10:31
mdke:)10:31
mdkecool thanks Burgwork 10:31
Burgworknp10:31
LaserJockBurgwork: thanks a lot10:32
BurgworkLaserJock, welcome aboard!10:34
LaserJockthank you guys for letting me work on this. It is lots of fun.10:37
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LaserJockI know, I know. It is nice to be able to work on the things that you find frustrating though10:39
LaserJockI would much rather help than sit around complaining10:39
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Burgworkfinding rpms is total mess of FC11:20
mdke:)11:20
Burgworkfor instance, I cannot find a good source for updated gcompris rpms11:21
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