[12:06] <bshumate> well, bhuvan had suggested i use the role attribute for emphasis tags, and frankly, i have no idea how, and i hate to keep pestering him with questions! ;-)
[12:06] <mdke> pester him!
[12:06] <mdke> :)
[12:07] <mdke> thanks for your recent work bshumate, it's great to see new contributors such as yourself
[12:10] <bshumate> hey, i am having a ball!  really enjoying ubuntu on my thinkpad, and hoping for an edubuntu PPC version to try out with my kids!  this is by far my favorite Linux distro of all time!  i am happy to be a part of it, and finally start giving back to the community!
[12:14] <mdke> bshumate, awesome
[01:54] <LaserJock_meetin> mdke: ping?
[06:07] <bshumate> hey thanks for all the help bhuvan!  i am posting a mostly complete version of the server guide windows networking part in just a second
[06:26] <LaserJock> hi theCore
[06:26] <theCore> hi
[06:28] <theCore> LaserJock, i started to make the guide in multiple files already
[06:28] <LaserJock> theCore: cool
[06:30] <LaserJock> theCore: I became a Ubuntu member this morning so I hope that I will be able to commit to the doc-team repo soon
[06:30] <theCore> LaserJock, you will need to fill the legal stuff because i don't know what to put
[06:30] <theCore> LaserJock, nice
[06:30] <LaserJock> theCore: no problem, we just need content right now ;-)
[06:31] <theCore> LaserJock, so what did you got ?
[06:33] <theCore> LaserJock, do you have additional privileges?
[06:40] <theCore> LaserJock, do you think it would be good to merge the Introduction into Getting Started ?
[06:41] <LaserJock> theCore: not sure. we will have to see.
[06:42] <LaserJock> theCore: you have to be a member before you can be a MOTU and I think you also get a @ubuntu.com email address and irc hostname cloak
[06:43] <theCore> LaserJock, cool
[06:44] <theCore> LaserJock, i hope i could be too a ubuntu member
[06:45] <theCore> LaserJock, how much time it took you to become a Ubuntu member ?
[06:47] <LaserJock> right now I am working on a email to the ubuntu-motu mailing list asking for feedback on our outline
[06:47] <LaserJock> theCore: you need to have contributed for about 2 months
[06:49] <theCore> LaserJock, it isn't too long, I though it was 1 or 2 years of active contribution :)
[06:50] <theCore> LaserJock, good idea
[06:56] <theCore> LaserJock, there is quite a lot of docs about packaging on the wiki ...
[07:01] <LaserJock> theCore: yes, that is good an bad
[07:05] <theCore> LaserJock, why ?
[07:15] <LaserJock> theCore: well, it is good to have info, but on the wiki info can get scattered and can be out-dated or incorrect sometimes
[07:16] <theCore> LaserJock, ah okay
[07:18] <LaserJock> theCore: I think the wiki is better as a drawing board and collaboration tool before making things more permanent and polished
[07:19] <theCore> LaserJock, that what I though, writing in DocBook in quite unnatural
[07:28] <theCore> LaserJock, does it happen to you sometime to get the "gobbing character" bug in gedit ?
[07:28] <LaserJock> theCore: I don't use gedit very much so I haven't seen that
[07:42] <LaserJock> theCore: ok, I gotta get to bed. Email me what you've done so far when you have the chance.
[07:44] <theCore> LaserJock, okay
[07:45] <theCore> LaserJock, good night
[07:45] <LaserJock> good night
[07:51] <jjesse> anyone around?
[07:53] <Burgwork> yep
[08:01] <jjesse> just seems awful quiet :0
[08:06] <Burgwork> been not working on Ubuntu recently
[08:07] <jjesse> me either, been really busy w/ work and stuff
[08:28] <LaserJock> mdke: ping?
[08:40] <mdke> LaserJock, pong
[08:41] <mdke> actually, no, brb
[08:41] <mdke> (sorry)
[08:43] <LaserJock> lol
[09:31] <LaserJock> hi theCore 
[09:31] <theCore> LaserJock, hi
[09:32] <theCore> LaserJock, anything new ?
[09:33] <LaserJock> theCore: not really. I'm busy with real life work, etc. I haven't got much of a reply from the MOTU yet but probably take a bit.
[09:34] <theCore> LaserJock, are you chemist?
[09:35] <LaserJock> theCore: yes, 4th Phd student in Physical Chemistry
[09:36] <LaserJock> 4th year, that is
[09:36] <theCore> LaserJock, wow, i wanna be a chemist too
[09:37] <LaserJock> theCore: really, cool
[09:37] <theCore> LaserJock, or something related to science
[09:38] <theCore> LaserJock, yea, i even pushed my college entry by 1 year, just to get Natural Science course
[09:39] <LaserJock> cool
[09:49] <mdke> LaserJock, now, sup?
[09:49] <LaserJock> mdke: well, I got membership yesterday
[09:49] <mdke> yeah cool, sorry about my failure to turn up
[09:50] <LaserJock> mdke: np, I made it pretty easily I think. They didn't even ask me any questions really
[09:50] <mdke> :)
[09:50] <mdke> knew it
[09:52] <LaserJock> I also emailed the ubuntu-motu mailing list about the packaging guide.
[09:52] <LaserJock> theCore and I worked on an outline at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuPackagingGuide/Outline
[09:53] <mdke> rocking
[09:58] <jjesse> LaserJock: that outline looks great
[09:58] <LaserJock> mdke: I think perhaps jgotangco emailed elmo about getting me commit acesss to the repo
[09:59] <LaserJock> jjesse: thanks, feel free to send feedback
[10:00] <mdke> cool
[10:00] <mdke> LaserJock, that should be done via an rt request
[10:00] <LaserJock> mdke: ?
[10:02] <mdke> application for commit access should be done via an rt request, if possible
[10:02] <LaserJock> mdke: what is rt?
[10:02] <mdke> it is the system of admin requests that canonical have
[10:02] <mdke> i guess it is "request tracker"
[10:03] <LaserJock> mdke: so do I need to do anything for that?
[10:03] <mdke> LaserJock, maybe jerome did that
[10:03] <jjesse> request tracker is www.bestpractical.com product
[10:03] <jjesse> its a great helpdesk software
[10:03] <jjesse> we use it at work
[10:04] <HrdwrBoB> we used perldesk
[10:05] <HrdwrBoB> (though at that stage it was free and we heavily modified it)
[10:08] <LaserJock> mdke: so should I join the ubuntu-doc LP team?
[10:08] <mdke> sure
[10:14] <LaserJock> theCore: what sections have you worked on so far?
[10:14] <theCore> LaserJock, the preface, the intro, and toc
[10:15] <jjesse> do you guys need someone to commit something?
[10:15] <theCore> LaserJock, but they really beta right now
[10:15] <LaserJock> theCore: k
[10:15] <LaserJock> jjesse: I think we are early enough that we will wait until I get commit access
[10:15] <jjesse> LaserJock: that's cool, i can commit if you need it
[10:15] <LaserJock> as theCore said, it's pretty beta right now ;-)
[10:15] <LaserJock> jjesse: thanks for the offer
[10:27] <theCore> LaserJock, editing a DocBook is really a nightmare ... every single tag must be correctly used or the whole thing don't work
[10:28] <mdke> :)
[10:28] <mdke> perfectionism :)
[10:29] <theCore> mdke, maybe ...
[10:29] <LaserJock> theCore: if you want you can just work on the actual content and let me worry about the Docbook until you get comfortable with it
[10:31] <Burgwork> mdke, shall I approve LaserJock into the LP doc team?
[10:31] <mdke> Burgwork, sure thing
[10:31] <theCore> LaserJock, i'm quite ok with the DocBook format, the thing is if I want to anything to the formating I need to make sure every tags I remove or add are correctly closed
[10:31] <Burgwork> mdke, LaserJock approved
[10:31] <mdke> :)
[10:31] <mdke> cool thanks Burgwork 
[10:31] <Burgwork> np
[10:32] <LaserJock> Burgwork: thanks a lot
[10:34] <Burgwork> LaserJock, welcome aboard!
[10:37] <LaserJock> thank you guys for letting me work on this. It is lots of fun.
[10:39] <LaserJock> I know, I know. It is nice to be able to work on the things that you find frustrating though
[10:39] <LaserJock> I would much rather help than sit around complaining
[11:20] <Burgwork> finding rpms is total mess of FC
[11:20] <mdke> :)
[11:21] <Burgwork> for instance, I cannot find a good source for updated gcompris rpms