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| BenC | mjg59: should we consider the ide suspend/resume patch? | 12:26 |
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| mjg59 | BenC: Which one? | 12:29 |
| mjg59 | Oh, the one that hit LKML? We already have it | 12:29 |
| mjg59 | If it gets merged, drop our one | 12:29 |
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| dilinger | oh | 12:37 |
| dilinger | if this doesn't work, i won't be able to reboot back into 2.6.12, will i? | 12:37 |
| dilinger | thanks to udev | 12:37 |
| jbailey | You just won't have dynamic devices. | 12:39 |
| dilinger | ok | 12:40 |
| jbailey | Hmm | 12:40 |
| jbailey | And nothing that got modprobed by hotplug. | 12:40 |
| jbailey | So do an lsmod first. =) | 12:40 |
| dilinger | ok | 12:41 |
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| BenC | mjg59: ok | 12:45 |
| jbailey | dilinger: You still have keyboard access to this box, yes? | 12:46 |
| jbailey | dilinger: Networking doesn't come up automatically with the new udev, known bug. | 12:46 |
| dilinger | jbailey: there is a keyboard hooked up to it; however, it's a few hundred miles away | 12:46 |
| jbailey | dilinger: Err. | 12:46 |
| jbailey | Don't do this then. | 12:46 |
| dilinger | jbailey: what needs to be done for that? | 12:46 |
| dilinger | well,i've got someone there who can fix it | 12:47 |
| BenC | add "auto eth0" to /etc/network/interfaces | 12:47 |
| jbailey | dilinger: No idea, I haven't tracked it closely enough to know. | 12:47 |
| dilinger | oh right, since by default it uses a hotplug mapping | 12:47 |
| BenC | right | 12:47 |
| dilinger | i can just kill that mapping as well now, right? | 12:47 |
| BenC | yeah | 12:48 |
| dilinger | thanks | 12:48 |
| BenC | auto works for both kernels/udev | 12:48 |
| dilinger | yep | 12:49 |
| dilinger | just wanted to make sure nothing else might be relying on the mapping | 12:49 |
| BenC | anyone know off hand, the url for the sparc/hppa build logs? | 12:50 |
| makx | jbailey: you are only on freenode? | 12:55 |
| makx | aah you left oftc.. | 12:57 |
| jbailey | BenC: http://bld-3.mmjgroup.com/buildLogs/ | 12:58 |
| BenC | thanks | 12:58 |
| jbailey | makx: I don't always log in everywhere. | 12:58 |
| jbailey | makx: I have different accounts / different IRC networks depending on what I'm doing atm. | 12:58 |
| makx | hehe, ok jbailey. was quite surprised, how easy Md was to the initramfs-tools hooks. seems to work out nicely :) | 12:59 |
| jbailey | Cool. | 01:00 |
| BenC | lamont-away: ping | 01:00 |
| BenC | lamont-away: any idea why dh_clean failed on hppa and causes linux-source-2.6.15 build failure? | 01:02 |
| dilinger | woo! | 01:15 |
| dilinger | it worked | 01:15 |
| dilinger | that's w/ SMP enabled, too (which didn't work w/ breezy's 2.6.12) | 01:15 |
| BenC | sweet | 01:19 |
| dilinger | i'll do some stress testing over the weekend, see if i can't get it to fall over | 01:20 |
| dilinger | oh great, now i can use smartd, too | 01:20 |
| jbailey | dilinger: Nice! =) | 01:25 |
| dilinger | hm. actually, no i can't :/ | 01:25 |
| dilinger | dilinger@throat:~$ sudo smartctl -s on /dev/sda | 01:28 |
| dilinger | Informational Exceptions (SMART) disabled | 01:28 |
| dilinger | i guess i'll be looking at that awful code again, this needs to work for my day job as well | 01:30 |
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| jbailey_ | BenC: FYI - new kernel doesn't fix the X hangs on ppc64. =) | 05:02 |
| jbailey_ | (It was time to go to bed anyway) | 05:02 |
| infinity | Who uses ppc64 anyway? No one /I/ like. | 05:03 |
| jbailey_ | But... | 05:03 |
| jbailey_ | But... | 05:03 |
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| jbailey_ | Are you sure? | 05:03 |
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| infinity | Oh, now that makx has gotten udev torn out of Debian's initramfs, I'm going to look at the remaining merge candidates. | 05:04 |
| jbailey_ | Well fine. | 05:05 |
| jbailey_ | Sleep for me! | 05:05 |
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| doko | BenC, fabbione: did you plan an k8 flavour for the i386 arch? | 09:24 |
| doko | for dapper ... | 09:24 |
| Earthpig | Good question: I have to use k8 in i386 mode at work due to legacy apps. :-/ | 09:25 |
| infinity | An i386 chroot, or ia32-libs aren't good enough for you? | 09:25 |
| Earthpig | ia32-libs weren't enough; sun-jre-1.3 wouldn't work with it. | 09:26 |
| Earthpig | didn't get around to a chroot. | 09:26 |
| fabbione | doko: didn't we agree on amd64-generic? | 09:27 |
| fabbione | k8 is already specific | 09:27 |
| infinity | Earthpig ...? Sun provides a linux-amd64 build of their JRE too... | 09:29 |
| Earthpig | infinity: only 1.5, from memory. | 09:29 |
| doko | fabbione: yes | 09:30 |
| infinity | Earthpig : And 1.4... You really need 1.3?... Ugh. | 09:30 |
| Earthpig | infinity: oracle installer :) | 09:30 |
| Earthpig | as of November there's an amd64 build, but back in June there wasn't. | 09:31 |
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| CataEnry | hi all | 09:46 |
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| CataEnry | hi all | 02:19 |
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| BenC | lamont: ping | 04:15 |
| lamont | ack | 04:21 |
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| zul | heylo | 04:22 |
| BenC | lamont: the hppa build failure, should I worry about it? | 04:23 |
| lamont | it's retrying now | 04:39 |
| BenC | ok, so it wasn't my fault? :) | 04:45 |
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| zul | dude its *always* your fault ;) | 05:48 |
| BenC | some cases of "fault" allow me to delegate responsibility though :) | 05:49 |
| fabbione | BenC: sparc is uploading 7.9 now | 06:21 |
| BenC | cool | 06:22 |
| infinity | BenC : Do we know the cause of these messages? | 06:51 |
| infinity | Assertion failed! qc->n_elem > 0,drivers/scsi/libata-core.c,ata_fill_sg,line=2504 | 06:51 |
| BenC | nope, never seen/heard of it | 06:51 |
| infinity | Joy. I get them every once in a while. Oddly enough, I can reliably reproduce it when running update-initramfs -u, of all things. | 06:52 |
| BenC | something is calling ata_fill_sg() with a zero sized sg list | 06:53 |
| BenC | well, zero sized queue command list | 06:53 |
| BenC | looks harmless, since it will just not do anything | 06:54 |
| infinity | Harmless, as long as it wasn't meant to do anything. :) | 06:54 |
| infinity | But if it IS harmless, we'll want to shut it up before release. A dmesg with a mess of those is scary. | 06:54 |
| BenC | well, true, if it had commands, but didn't update the list elem count, then that's bad :) | 06:54 |
| BenC | what ata driver are you using? | 06:55 |
| infinity | ata_piix | 06:55 |
| === infinity wonders why bot ata_piix and ahci get loaded, but ahci doesn't appear to get used. | ||
| mjg59 | infinity: ahci loads, finds it can't claim your device and then fails. ata_piix then gets loaded. | 06:56 |
| mjg59 | Some PCI devices can be used in either mode, but it depends on BIOS setup | 06:57 |
| infinity | mjg59 : Sure, but typically when things fail to bind to a device, they gracefully unload again. | 06:57 |
| mjg59 | infinity: Not nowadays, no | 06:57 |
| mjg59 | PCI drivers stick around, in case you hotplug something they can bind to | 06:57 |
| mjg59 | And so you can echo stuff into new_id | 06:58 |
| infinity | But if I hotplug something, it would get modprobed again anyway, wouldn't it? | 06:58 |
| mjg59 | Well, yes | 06:58 |
| mjg59 | But the latter argument still stands | 06:58 |
| infinity | The New World Order is too confusing for me. :) | 06:58 |
| mjg59 | Ah! | 06:59 |
| infinity | Perhaps this is why I still run monolithic kernels on my servers. | 06:59 |
| mjg59 | That would be why my battery life is sucking | 06:59 |
| mjg59 | Every time ipw2100 gets a corrupt packet, it disables C3 and C4 | 06:59 |
| mjg59 | Cunting thing | 06:59 |
| CataEnry | bye :) | 06:59 |
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| siretart | hi | 07:14 |
| siretart | AcidPils1: acx111 working for you? | 07:14 |
| AcidPils1 | not really, it loads but the firmware is missing | 07:15 |
| AcidPils1 | ERROR 2 trying to open firmware image file 'RADIO16.BIN': file not found - make sure this EXACT filename is in eXaCtLy this directory! | 07:15 |
| siretart | hm. | 07:15 |
| siretart | lets see what firmware is in the package | 07:16 |
| AcidPils1 | there is a RADIO15.BIN but no RADIO16.BIN in /usr/lib/firmware | 07:18 |
| siretart | interesting | 07:18 |
| infinity | File a bug on linux-restricted-modules for me to include the newer firmware. | 07:19 |
| AcidPils1 | http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5485 <-- that are the files | 07:19 |
| infinity | Bonus points if you can point me to where to download it from. | 07:19 |
| AcidPils1 | infinity: ok | 07:19 |
| siretart | AcidPils1: do you have perhaps a RADIO16.BIN on your drivers cd (the windows ones) | 07:19 |
| AcidPils1 | wrong question, do you perhaps have a windows driver cd ;) | 07:20 |
| siretart | ah, I see | 07:20 |
| infinity | Okay, I found a copy of that firmware. | 07:21 |
| infinity | File the bug, please, so I remember in the morning. | 07:21 |
| infinity | It's about 6 hours past my bedtime now. :) | 07:21 |
| AcidPils1 | infinity: ok | 07:21 |
| siretart | :) | 07:22 |
| infinity | Can you try the firmware here and confirm it works? | 07:23 |
| infinity | http://195.66.192.167/linux/acx_patches/acx_fw/acx111_xterasys_xn2522g/fw3/ | 07:23 |
| BenC | infinity: any luck with vga16fb yet? | 07:30 |
| AcidPils1 | infinity: seems to work, but i dont get a a link to my ap, strange | 07:36 |
| AcidPils1 | the error is gone | 07:36 |
| siretart | AcidPils1: ifconfig up the interface first | 07:38 |
| BenC | ifup eth0 actually | 07:38 |
| BenC | or whatever your interface is | 07:39 |
| AcidPils1 | ifup wlan0 i know | 07:39 |
| AcidPils1 | dhcp client comes up but gets no ip | 07:39 |
| BenC | iwconfig wlan0 show anything? | 07:39 |
| BenC | like the correct essid and such | 07:40 |
| AcidPils1 | yes | 07:40 |
| BenC | signal? | 07:40 |
| AcidPils1 | Link Quality:0 Signal level:0 Noise level:0 | 07:40 |
| fabbione | re | 07:40 |
| BenC | fabbione: hey, there's an aweful lot of bugs concerning 2.6.12-10, regressions from 2.6.12-9 | 07:41 |
| fabbione | BenC: what kind of regressions? | 07:41 |
| BenC | if you search bugzilla for 2.6.12-10, you'll find them all | 07:41 |
| BenC | crashes, especially acpi related | 07:41 |
| fabbione | binary crap -ENOCARE.. we can't fix them | 07:41 |
| fabbione | we didn't touch ACPI with security :/ | 07:41 |
| BenC | but they all say "worked in 2.6.12-9" | 07:41 |
| BenC | most crash during boot, during hotplug | 07:42 |
| fabbione | i can see 3 bugs | 07:42 |
| fabbione | 20107: it's definetely not the kernel | 07:43 |
| fabbione | we call an helper script to update grbu menu stuff | 07:44 |
| BenC | 20366, 20391 | 07:45 |
| BenC | those are two in my current list | 07:45 |
| fabbione | yes.. the same i am looking at | 07:46 |
| BenC | I've seen more, but I don't think they all say 2.6.12-10 (some start out, "security upgrade" or something) | 07:47 |
| fabbione | the only ones i saw were binary drivers related | 07:47 |
| BenC | if they are invalid, can you close them? | 07:47 |
| fabbione | i find it weird because they are all reporting problems again subsystem that we didn't touch at all | 07:48 |
| BenC | yeah, I knew it was odd | 07:48 |
| BenC | but when > 1 complain about the same thing, it tends to add some credibility | 07:48 |
| fabbione | yup i agree | 07:49 |
| AcidPils1 | hmmm, wlan0 (WE) : Driver using old /proc/net/wireless support, please fix driver ! may this be the error? | 07:49 |
| BenC | AcidPils1: nah, my rt2500 says the same thing, and it works | 07:49 |
| AcidPils1 | ah ok, stupid card :( | 07:50 |
| fabbione | BenC: there is only a scary patch in -10- that's the one that changes the ABI | 07:51 |
| fabbione | i wonder if that could be the culprit | 07:51 |
| fabbione | it's quite invasive | 07:51 |
| fabbione | ideally we could try to revert that and see if it fixes the problem | 07:51 |
| fabbione | but it's contained inside sysctl | 07:55 |
| fabbione | it's an internal | 07:56 |
| fabbione | it's an internal function that changes | 07:56 |
| fabbione | but it adds stuff to a struct... | 07:56 |
| === fabbione checks | ||
| fabbione | i really can't see anything there | 08:03 |
| fabbione | if there was a remote problem with acpi and the scary patch, none of the machines would have survived longer than a few seconds | 08:03 |
| fabbione | because the change touches all subsystem | 08:04 |
| fabbione | +s | 08:04 |
| AcidPils1 | now its getting strange, acx_pci: probe of 0000:01:07.0 failed with error -5, and then ndiswrapper version 1.5 loaded (preempt=yes,smp=yes) oO | 08:06 |
| AcidPils1 | why ndiswrapper? i used it but deletet it from /etc/modules | 08:07 |
| BenC | maybe ndiswrapper is taking the resources | 08:11 |
| BenC | try deleting the acx entry for ndiswrapper (maybe some script is autoloading ndiswrapper because it is associated with one of your devices?) | 08:11 |
| mjg59 | infinity: There's 640x400 timing information in modedb.c | 08:15 |
| mjg59 | infinity: Sticking that in vga16fb.c and changing the vertical refresh seems to be good | 08:15 |
| mjg59 | Anyone here familiar with sata? | 08:20 |
| jbailey | What type of familiarity are you looking for? | 08:23 |
| mjg59 | Oh utter arse | 08:23 |
| mjg59 | The code I've been working on for the past few days was already sent to linux-ide on Saturday | 08:24 |
| mjg59 | (Ha ha ha) | 08:24 |
| BenC | lol | 08:37 |
| mjg59 | Oh, except this one's less good than mine | 09:09 |
| mjg59 | Massive wheel re-invention | 09:11 |
| dilinger | jbailey: what does initramfs-tools actually use to detect which modules to modprobe during boot? | 09:49 |
| makx | udev | 09:55 |
| makx | the initramfs-tools hooks are in the udev package | 09:57 |
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| dilinger | thanks | 10:08 |
| dilinger | makx: at least w/ the udev that's in sid (backported to a sarge-like system), i get no love wrt piix and ide-generic. i'm putting htem in /etc/mkinitramfs/modules for now | 10:10 |
| dilinger | oops, wrong channel | 10:10 |
| dilinger | makx: ping | 10:27 |
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| jbailey | dilinger: I'ts a bit different from breezy to current dapper. | 11:27 |
| jbailey | dilinger: In breezy, it walked sysfs and modprobed the modalias. | 11:27 |
| jbailey | dilinger: In dapper (2.6.15) it walks sysfs and tickle the uevent files. udev then sees a new uevent. | 11:27 |
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