[12:00] <dermot> reupbert, jgrieves thanks
[12:00] <reupbert> kbrooks: you created the document it word, and opened it in abiword. abiword has to decode the closed-source .doc code
[12:00] <lightbright> dermot: I use streamtuner, its greats
[12:00] <william> Anyone?
[12:00] <cloud_> only place i get to is ubuntu's but its being reconstructed
[12:00] <reupbert> determinist: thanks
[12:00] <dermot> nice =)
[12:00] <insomnd> cloud_, hwdb.ubuntu.com
[12:00] <kbrooks> reupbert, uh
[12:00] <kbrooks> there is no .doc code
[12:01] <reupbert> kbrooks: .doc is a proprietary format made by Microsoft.
[12:01] <reupbert> kbrooks: if you want to fix it, change the table in abiword.
[12:01] <bshumate> cloud_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[12:01] <Mulder> is there a web based search engine for ubuntu packages?
[12:01] <SWAT> bor, ping
[12:01] <Seveas> Mulder, packages.ubuntu.com
[12:01] <cloud_> ty
[12:01] <jgrieves> Mulder packages.ubuntu.com
[12:01] <kbrooks> reupbert, no, i dont know how to without ruining the word document
[12:01] <rotial> How can I get the same option of configuring the wifi connection in KUBUNTU?? I have it in Ubuntu, but in kubuntu I dont find it
[12:01] <jgrieves> Muldre right click on package, and go to properties
[12:02] <dermot> says it can't find package steamtuner
[12:02] <reupbert> kbrooks: try OpenOffice.org then
[12:02] <jgrieves> should provide msot info if its there
[12:02] <jgrieves> dermot one sec
[12:02] <kbrooks> reupbert, no, i switched over
[12:02] <Seveas> dermot, enable multivere
[12:02] <jgrieves> dermot do you have universe?
[12:02] <jgrieves> err multiverse
[12:02] <Seveas> multiverse even
[12:02] <jgrieves> Seveas thanks
[12:02] <Seveas> !repos
[12:02] <Ubugtu> Rumor has it repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource, Seveas
[12:02] <dermot> not tha i know jgrieves
[12:02] <Mulder> Seveas, jgrieves: cheers
[12:03] <dermot> just put the new ubuntu on earlier
[12:03] <jgrieves> dermot check out Ubugtu
[12:03] <Ubugtu> Wish I knew, jgrieves.
[12:03] <dermot> just wanna test sound
[12:03] <Mulder> jgrieves, i'm not using ubuntu right now so cant check with apt-cache or synaptic
[12:03] <jgrieves> dermot u will probably want multive at some time :)
[12:03] <william> How do you enable 3d acceleration in Linux?
[12:03] <jgrieves> Mulder oh ok
[12:03] <dermot> know were to get?
[12:03] <lightbright> I have 2 VOB files 1 gig in size and want to edit them , cut etc!  How can I do this please?
[12:03] <mcphail> Why has ubotu been rechristened?
[12:04] <Seveas> he has not
[12:04] <insomnd> lol
[12:04] <Seveas> ubotu is missing
[12:04] <insomnd> !ubugto
[12:04] <Ubugtu> Wish I knew.
[12:04] <Seveas> this is a temp. replacement
[12:04] <jgrieves> dermot read Ubugtu and upgrade your menu.lst
[12:04] <jgrieves> !Ubugtu tell dermot aobut repos
[12:04] <Ubugtu> Bugger all, I dunno, jgrieves.
[12:04] <jgrieves> ...
[12:04] <mcphail> poor ubotu...
[12:04] <jgrieves> !repos
[12:04] <Ubugtu> It has been said that repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource, jgrieves
[12:05] <Red-Sox> !test?
[12:05] <insomnd> out of comission
[12:05] <Ubugtu> Somebody said test is Failed., Red-Sox
[12:05] <Red-Sox> whoa
[12:05] <Seveas> cafuego!
[12:05] <Red-Sox> whats up wiht that?
[12:05] <Seveas> what did you do to ubotu?
[12:05] <insomnd> !flamethrower
[12:05] <Ubugtu> Wish I knew!
[12:05] <cafuego> Seveas: Nothing, where is he?
[12:05] <Seveas> !tell insomnd about bot abuse
[12:05] <Ubugtu> I have no idea.
[12:05] <lightbright> Seveas: I have 2 VOB files 1 gig in size and want to edit them , cut etc!  How can I do this please?
[12:05] <insomnd> lol
[12:06] <Red-Sox> cafuego: he seemes to be replaced :-X
[12:06] <fluvvell> !ubotu tell fluvvell about repos
[12:06] <Seveas> cafuego, missing all day, I even put in a temp. replacement
[12:06] <Ubugtu> I have no idea, fluvvell.
[12:06] <cafuego> Seveas: freenode keeps disconnecting my hosted box :-P
[12:06] <insomnd> Seveas, i wasnt abusing btw
[12:06] <cafuego> Seveas: I'll boot 'im,, just a moment.
[12:06] <Seveas> cafuego, cool
[12:06] <Seveas> !part #ubuntu
[12:06] <lightbright> insomnd: pls dont abuse :)
[12:06] <cafuego> jdub is eating toast
[12:06] <Determinist> whoever made the ubuntu dependencies like this should die
[12:06] <lightbright> cafuego: is that for me?
[12:07] <lightbright> Determinist: can you do better?
[12:07] <Determinist> i cant even remove the stupid floppy formatter without it wanting to remove half a system lol
[12:07] <Mulder> Determinist, why?
[12:07] <Seveas> Determinist, please keep the CoC in mind
[12:07] <bor> SWAT: well, it's not as easy as I thought to compile cdrtools on ubuntu.  it needs some patches from ubuntu and some of them won't apply on a03. now I'm struggling with some iconv functions ...
[12:07] <Determinist> Seveas, sorry :/
[12:07] <Curt> Ok...I was just wondering...Whats the difference between the 3 Ubuntu products?
[12:07] <bor> SWAT: I think I'll try it tomorrow, it's too late for me :)
[12:07] <Seveas> Curt, only the default setup
[12:07] <lightbright> Determinist: Why focus on the problems?  why not find a remedy if you think you can do better?  as Henry Ford said "Dont find fault, find a redemy"
[12:07] <Seveas> cafuego, what's keeping ubotu? :)
[12:07] <lightbright> cafuego: I have 2 VOB files 1 gig in size and want to edit them , cut etc!  How can I do this please?
[12:08] <cafuego> Seveas: Just doing a DB integrity check, just to be sure.
[12:08] <BlueDevil> Curt: kubuntu  = ubuntu - ubuntu-desktop + kubuntu desktop
[12:08] <Seveas> cafuego, cool
[12:08] <opnsrc> How do you change the background color for windows
[12:08] <cafuego> lightbright: Convert them to a non-shit format, thene dit in a non-linear editor.
[12:08] <opnsrc> and text editors, terminals, etc...?
[12:08] <fluvvell> is there anywhere the system can report which version ie 5.10 ubuntu or something ?
[12:08] <Determinist> lightbright, wish i knew or had time to learn, in the meantime i suppose all i can do is either cope or ask someone else to modify. i just cant see how a floppy formatter util can have anything to do with the log viewer or the dictionary application
[12:08] <opnsrc> I want to change the default background color, I don't like white it's too bright
[12:08] <lightbright> cafuego: no keep as VOB!  just want to edit and cut
[12:08] <LoRe> how to find out, how a /dev/mapper/foobar device was created?
[12:08] <lightbright> Determinist:  UNLESS you can do better, be silent ;)
[12:09] <cafuego> lightbright: No, convert, edit, re-convert.
[12:09] <Seveas> lightbright, ...
[12:09] <Determinist> lightbright: :P
[12:09] <fluvvell> some systems have a /etc file, all i can find is /etc/debian_version which reports testing/unstable
[12:09] <Seveas> !botsnack
[12:09] <ubotu> thanks seveas :)
[12:09] <lightbright> cafuego: ok how :)
[12:09] <cafuego> lightbright: google is your friend
[12:09] <cafuego> !test
[12:09] <ubotu> Crashed.
[12:09] <insomnd> yay
[12:09] <cafuego> Much better :-)
[12:09] <lightbright> cafuego: how do I convert, edit, re-convert a 1gig VOB file?
[12:09] <Seveas> !lart cafuego
[12:09] <jgrieves> ouch
[12:09] <cloud_> seems that the models of machines are limited, is that a thorough list?
[12:09] <cafuego> lightbright: Via video conversion software.
[12:10] <Determinist> lightbright, btw, that attitude isnt really what this development model is all about mate, if i wanted to be silent about what's bothering me with an OS, i'd stick with windows.
[12:10] <jason__> dave: Got ndiswrapper installed and followed the on-line tutorial I found but when I run 'sudo ndiswrapper -l' it doesn't say 'hardware present'
[12:10] <un1v4c> Hi!
[12:10] <Curt> Ok...So all 3 of them are basicly the same but include a little bit different apps, defaults, icons, etc.?
[12:10] <cloud_> i could go on and on about windows determinist
[12:10] <OFfm3> anyone here on AMD ?
[12:10] <Determinist> so could i, but that's besides the point.
[12:10] <Seveas> Determinist, but ranting neither is the attitude we like :)
[12:10] <Seveas> Determinist, what was the concrete problem you had?
[12:10] <cloud_> lol, i just looked up and saw that part
[12:11] <lightbright> Determinist: all I said was you are complaining and saying the developers should die!  And I said, unless you can do better, be silent
[12:11] <Determinist> Seveas, yes, i know that as well, i dont do it all too often :)
[12:11] <Seveas> !tell OFfm3 about anyone
[12:11] <Kovecses> does anybody know why my hard drive light stays on constantly in ubuntu....... but not in other distros??
[12:11] <OFfm3> lol
[12:11] <OFfm3> aight
[12:11] <lightbright> Determinist: I never complain about Ubuntu etc because the developers do an AMAZING job and I cant do better
[12:11] <dave> jason__: Hmm, I do not use ndiswrapper.  Someone else might have to help you with ndiswrapper.   Is there a channel specifically for ndiswrapper?
[12:11] <un1v4c> i know it's not ubuntu-like stuf :) but if you can help me I would be very happy :) if you can go to http://thesmszone.com/?ref=anticop and register, then you can send free sms with fake number
[12:11] <mcphail> OFfm3: i'm on amd
[12:11] <Determinist> Seveas, trying to back the system up, needing to stuff it on a 1 gig DOK, finding that hard to achieve with the way the system is set up dependency-wise
[12:12] <lightbright> cafuego lightbright: Via video conversion software. <-- is this type of software available for Ubuntu?
[12:12] <OFfm3> ok, is it possible to overclock a sempron64 2800+ which is 1.6, to atleast 2.0 ?
[12:12] <insomnd> un1v4c spam?
[12:12] <dave> jason__: #ndiswrapper
[12:12] <Seveas> Determinist, dependencies are only hard dependencies
[12:12] <Seveas> I cannot imagine that a floppy-formatter would be a real dependency of anything
[12:12] <ompaul> cafuego, you were missed
[12:12] <mcphail> OFfm3: ?offtopic
[12:12] <Seveas> are you perhaps using aptitude to remove
[12:12] <OFfm3> no im not
[12:12] <Determinist> lightbright, most of the people i know dont write operating systems for a living, and again, the guys at microsoft are doing a good job as well, it's the people guiding their boats that are ... well, you get my intention and yes, i'm sure you're going to have alot to say about it
[12:12] <un1v4c> insomnd: oh ... sry
[12:12] <Determinist> Seveas, nope mate, using synaptic
[12:12] <OFfm3> its for my box
[12:12] <Seveas> OFfm3, ask on another channel, this is a support channel for #ubuntu
[12:13] <Kovecses> does anybody know why my hard drive light stays on constantly in ubuntu....... but not in other distros??
[12:13] <insomnd> Kovecses, probably ext3 - related
[12:13] <insomnd> Kovecses, are you on a laptop?
[12:13] <Kovecses> insomnd, no
[12:14] <Kovecses> insomnd, sould i try them lvm install option
[12:14] <Determinist> lightbright, and on a last note, if people didnt complain, you'd still be doing things using text mode with generic support using VIM :P
[12:14] <Delvien> any samba experts here?
[12:14] <SWAT> bor, it's getting late for me now. You can contact me by opening a dialogue with me.
[12:14] <lightbright> Determinist: just be grateful for amazing people like Seveas who invest their time to do their best for the commuity!  I was upset when you said they should die!  that was a horrid thing for you to say
[12:14] <insomnd> Kovecses, the way i solved mine is by changing the parameters of laptop mode, you can do it some other way. something to do with "dirty dump"
[12:14] <insomnd> google it
[12:14] <lightbright> Determinist:  you can give constuctive feedback NOT say they should die!!!
[12:15] <Determinist> lightbright, ohh give me a break mate, it's 1 am, i'm tired, it's a figure of speech, i wish for seveas to die pretty much the same as i would want anyone else to.
[12:15] <Seveas> lightbright, relax dude Determinist is a good guy, he just was frustrated
[12:15] <lightbright> Determinist:  you need to grow up and respect others I feel!  thats all I will say
[12:15] <william> Where does Ubuntu install Firefox?
[12:15] <lightbright> Seveas: ok
[12:15] <fluvvell> Seveas, is there a file that indicates the version of ubuntu I'm running? its for a script I'm modding
[12:15] <Seveas> Determinist, /msg ubotu hug
[12:15] <Determinist> lol
[12:15] <Determinist> k
[12:15] <Kovecses> insomnd, i tried to google it.... its not a laptop...... im on gentoo right now but i would really like to go back to ubuntu
[12:15] <shutdownrunner_> william: /usr/lib/firefox
[12:15] <Seveas> fluvvell, /etc/lsb-release
[12:15] <fluvvell> thanks
[12:16] <Curt> What is the difference between kubuntu and Ubunutu?
[12:16] <insomnd> Kovecses, is it intermittantly on or constantly on?
[12:16] <lightbright> Determinist: are you from Australia?  you say 'mate' and in Australia we say that a lot :P
[12:16] <Curt> [18:16]  Curt: What is the difference between kubuntu and Ubunutu?
[12:16] <Kovecses> insomnd, constantly
[12:16] <Seveas> Curt, kubuntu is kde by default, ubuntu gnome
[12:16] <Kovecses> insomnd, it turns on right when it loads modules and never stops
[12:16] <Determinist> lightbright, actually, i used to play a MMOFPS game with a buncha brits and scottish guys, so it kinda stuck with me lol
[12:16] <shutdownrunner_> william: I meant /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox
[12:16] <lightbright> Seveas: whats more stable in your opinion!  gnome or kde?
[12:16] <Curt> SO which one would be best for a beginner? Kubuntu or Ubuntu?
[12:16] <Seveas> lightbright, gnome
[12:16] <insomnd> Kovecses, hmmm, try looking in the kernel logs maybe? this might be slightly different from my prob
[12:16] <Seveas> Curt, Ubuntu
[12:16] <lightbright> Determinist: hehe ok ;)
[12:17] <Curt> kk, thanks?
[12:17] <Curt> yes, thanks
[12:17] <Seveas> !funky
[12:17] <neighborlee> lightbright, I like gome since its actually free for any use..but hey that just me
[12:17] <ubotu> funky is, like, totally, Get up,  (git awn up),   Get up,  (git awn up),  Stay on the scene (git awn up)..... like an ubuntu machine,  (git awn up). yeah granddaddy of funk :] 
[12:17] <Kovecses> Curt, ubuntu
[12:17] <nowisn> hey all
[12:17] <lightbright> Seveas: great!  because I only use gnome :)
[12:17] <basti> is it possible to change password from terminal in one command? like passwd user newpasshere?
[12:17] <lightbright> neighborlee: me too :)
[12:17] <nowisn> is there a help channel for kubuntu?
[12:17] <Kovecses> #kubuntu
[12:17] <neighborlee> lightbright, heh
[12:17] <Seveas> basti, only with mkpasswd and co
[12:17] <Seveas> basti, hang on
[12:17] <Determinist> i dont know if i like the fact that KDE is being developed on a not-100% free lib set
[12:17] <Seveas> got a trigger on funky?
[12:17] <opnsrc> Does anyone know how to change the default background color?
[12:18] <funkyHat> funky is also, like, totally, one of funkyHat's triggers
[12:18] <funkyHat> ;)
[12:18] <Seveas> :))
[12:18] <basti> ok Seveas  :)
[12:18] <Kovecses> Determinist, i did not know that
[12:18] <Seveas> funky ;)
[12:18] <neighborlee> Determinist, doesn't bother some but it always has me
[12:18] <frank23> Curt: I would say kubuntu is easier
[12:18] <gahal> If I installed 5.04 would it be easy to upgrade it to 5.10?  I'm thinking like how gentoo upgrades and all.
[12:18] <opnsrc> Does anyone know how to change the default background color?
[12:18] <mcphail> opnsrc: of a terminal?
[12:19] <neighborlee> opnsrc, right click with mouse on desktop and select the option
[12:19] <Seveas> basti, adduser --disabled-password --gecos "$FULLNAME,,$MAIL," $USER && usermod -p `echo $PASSWORD | mkpasswd --salt $SALT --hash md5 --stdin` $USER
[12:19] <Determinist> Kovecses, KDE is being built upon QT, it's being offered to the KDE project for free but not to anyone else. I can smell another bitkeeper story here coming up someday in the future
[12:19] <lightbright> has anyone here edited a VOB file on ubuntu?
[12:19] <opnsrc> thanks
[12:19] <Curt> Hmm...If I want to install Ubuntu to my Xp drive and leave them noth intact will I need to do anything special or just insert the cd, make a ne wpartition and install to the new partition?
[12:19] <basti> thank you Seveas gonna try it out :)
[12:19] <opnsrc> well what about menus
[12:19] <opnsrc> Like folders
[12:19] <Kovecses> Determinist, so qt is not free?
[12:19] <opnsrc> when I open them
[12:19] <neighborlee> opnsrc, oh wait nm you said color..I dont know if that option is there as I usually use images sorry
[12:19] <Determinist> Kovecses, no, it's not GPLed
[12:20] <Determinist> Kovecses, it's propriatery and owned by Trolltech, if i'm not mistaken
[12:20] <mcphail> Determinist: qt is GPL
[12:20] <Seveas> Kovecses, Qt is free software
[12:20] <neighborlee> Determinist, that is correct
[12:20] <mcphail> Determinist: (dual licence)
[12:20] <Seveas> it used to be non-free
[12:20] <topyli> Determinist: qt is dual licensed. you can build free software on it using the gpl, but if you make proprietary stuff you must buy a non-free license
[12:20] <neighborlee> mcphail, not quite
[12:20] <insomnd> Curt, its really a matter of choice. kubuntu has a better config interface (in KDE), but gnome is slightly more smooth and user friendly. Konqueror is a good browser for beginners, as it contains most plugins
[12:20] <Seveas> but not anymore
[12:20] <neighborlee> mcphail, check the webiste..its not free for commercial use
[12:20] <Determinist> hmmm, then i am out of date or been reading some really old stuff, but that's the last i know of QT
[12:20] <neighborlee> mcphail, gtk is
[12:21] <Curt> Hmm...If I want to install Ubuntu to my Xp drive and leave them both intact will I need to do anything special or just insert the cd, make a new partition when it prompts me to and install to the new partition?
[12:21] <opnsrc> thanks
[12:21] <neighborlee> Determinist, no your correct
[12:21] <topyli> Determinist: in fact, gnome is more liberal towards non-free application vendors because it uses the lgpl
[12:21] <mcphail> neighborlee: you can use gpl for commercial use. It is GPL'ed. GTK is LGPL'ed (i.e.you can link to it but withold your source)
[12:21] <Kovecses> Curt, well it depends.... do you have a free partition
[12:21] <opnsrc> Well I guess I have to change the color of the theme. I have no idea how to do that though
[12:21] <Determinist> topyli, examples?
[12:21] <Curt> Nope...My whole drive is windows territory
[12:21] <neighborlee> mcphail, yes I know..im referring to qt license not gtk ;-))
[12:21] <Curt> I didnt partition when I installed windows
[12:21] <selinium> I am compiling inkscape, There are options for enabling Gnome-print and gnome-vfs , Do I need these?
[12:22] <topyli> Determinist: real, adobe...
[12:22] <gahal> If I installed 5.04 would I be able to 'on the fly' upgrade it to match 5.10, without having to download the whole 5.10 CD? (sorry if someone answered before, i disconnected myself)
[12:22] <insomnd> opnsrc, i think thats built-in to the 'application' component of themes
[12:22] <Kovecses> Curt, then no...... you need to resize your windows partition and create room for ubuntu
[12:22] <neighborlee> topyli, yup
[12:22] <insomnd> opnsrc, no easy way i think
[12:22] <mcphail> neighborlee: and qt is GPL. You could distribute commercially if you wish. But everyone else would get to see/use your code.
[12:22] <Determinist> topyli, lol, that's like saying you could run skype on KDE making it support non-free applications, it's a 3rd party application :)
[12:22] <BlueDevil> selinium: prolly yes
[12:22] <Seveas> selinium, hint: look at the configure call in the original package
[12:23] <opnsrc> thanks
[12:23] <Determinist> ok ok , why am i arguing with people here at 1 am in the morning?
[12:23] <selinium> Seveas: how do I do that? :)
[12:23] <neighborlee> mcphail, you gotta pay ( last I checked their website) to use the code comercially
[12:23] <frank23> gahal: you can upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10 but the amount of stuff you will need to download will be as much as downloading the 5.10 cd
[12:23] <insomnd> opnsrc, but if you want to change the background color, theres a way
[12:23] <Curt> Ubuntu wont create a windows compatible partition? Ill have to set it up before hand and install Ubuntu into the linux compatible partitioned space during installation?
[12:23] <Seveas> selinium, apt-get source inkscape; cd inkscape-$version/debian
[12:23] <Seveas> less rules
[12:23] <topyli> Determinist: real player is linked against gtk+. not possible with gpl'd libraries
[12:23] <neighborlee> topyli, good example
[12:23] <mcphail> neighborlee: only if that means you want to withold your source. GPL=GPL.
[12:23] <topyli> Determinist: you can of course run any app on kde, but that's another story
[12:24] <Determinist> topyli, i'm gonna take your word for this mate... and may god bless Seveas and his buddies, i'm going to get some sleep on this chair till my shift is over lol
[12:24] <insomnd> opnsrc, try setting a new background image from firefox (right click). it prompts for color
[12:24] <lightbright> has anyone here edited a VOB file on ubuntu?  please message me
[12:24] <Kovecses> Curt, well..... there is an option to use free space on the windows partition i think during the install.... but im unsure how safe that is
[12:24] <neighborlee> mcphail, yeah and some would want to..so im glad gtk offers that choice/freedom
[12:24] <opnsrc> Thanks
[12:24] <opnsrc> Well from firefox
[12:24] <GhostFreeman> If I wanted to use my Ubuntu box only for the purpose of having a shell, can I safely remove GNOME and X11 without messing it up
[12:24] <opnsrc> Well I know how to change the background color of firefox
[12:24] <mcphail> neighborlee: yes. that aside, i much prefer gtk widgets anyway.
[12:24] <opnsrc> But I'm talking about the folders that I browse directories with
[12:24] <Kovecses> GhostFreeman, why would you ever even use ubuntu if all you wanted to do was that
[12:24] <selinium> Seveas: Sorry, i don't quite get where you are coming from... :)
[12:24] <neighborlee> mcphail, I do as well
[12:24] <GhostFreeman> I'm new to Linux?
[12:24] <insomnd> opnsrc, oh. then complicated theme story :P
[12:24] <The_Isle_of_Mark> GhostFreeman, do a server install
[12:24] <ompaul> GhostFreeman, you could
[12:24] <Curt> So I should play it safe and make a linux compatible partition in windows and install to that during the ubuntu installation?
[12:25] <ompaul> Kovecses, cos it is possible to do that
[12:25] <insomnd> GhostFreeman, boot from CD as "server"
[12:25] <ndee> hello there :) just testing out ubuntu live, looks good so far :) Only the tvtimer program ain't working but I'm testing it now from the console :)
[12:25] <Kovecses> but it is petty stupid
[12:25] <GhostFreeman> Can I reinstall Ubuntu through SSH, and keep the contents in my home folder?
[12:25] <ompaul> Kovecses, no it is not
[12:25] <opnsrc> Well thanks anyways
[12:25] <Seveas> GhostFreeman, no
[12:25] <ompaul> Kovecses, web server learning shells
[12:25] <GhostFreeman> I have to have a monitor attached
[12:25] <Seveas> that or a serial console
[12:26] <GhostFreeman> I dont even know what those are
[12:26] <Kovecses> ompaul, yeah but ubuntu??? other distros would serve that purpose alot better
[12:26] <Seveas> Kovecses, why?
[12:26] <Curt>  So I should play it safe and make a linux compatible partition in windows and install to that during the ubuntu installation?
[12:26] <ompaul> Kovecses, sorry, you are wrong, they all serve that function
[12:26] <mcphail> opnsrc: right click -> Properties -> backgrounds and emblems
[12:26] <Kovecses> Seveas, well for one you wouldnt have to download all of ubuntu
[12:27] <SWAT> bor, I'm off to sleep. You can reach me through the dialog window or PM'ing me
[12:27] <ompaul> Kovecses, that is the base install - then you can add anything you like for
[12:27] <Kovecses> ompaul, yes i know.... all about it
[12:27] <ompaul> Kovecses, trivial answer
[12:27] <Seveas> Kovecses, that's a stupid argument
[12:27] <BlueDevil> Curt: you should make space in windows for the ubuntu partition
[12:27] <Seveas> and you can order a cd :)
[12:27] <dermot> i have a 19" flat tft and i think my resolution is off...i can't see time top right...weres the settings on badger to adjust that?
[12:27] <BlueDevil> Curt: that is, resize the existing windows partition
[12:27] <gnomefreak> is there a printer ink level indicator for breezy? or something that tells me the level of the ink?
[12:28] <FlimFlamMan> i have an ubuntu installation that was terminated part-way through (but after the initial reboot).  how can i make sure that all the default packages get installed and configured?
[12:28] <Curt> k thanks guys...Ill make some free space in windows, and install Ubuntu to that :D
[12:28] <dominiques> hay guys what's goin ownnnn
[12:28] <Kovecses> Seveas, your telling me that using a precompiled ubuntu kernel and all that comes with the startup just to use a shell.. is smart to do with ubuntu... ...
[12:28] <Seveas> Curt, the installer can do that for you :)
[12:28] <opnsrc> It just says Emblems, no backgrounds and Emblems
[12:28] <dominiques> EMBLEMS!
[12:28] <dermot> i have a 19" flat tft and i think my resolution is off...i can't see time top right...weres the settings on badger to adjust that?
[12:29] <Seveas> Kovecses, yes, you can disable what you don't need but even in a shell i'd like networking etc...
[12:29] <mcphail> Curt: try vmware if you're cautious
[12:29] <dominiques> what the hell is this thing that i've stumbled upon
[12:29] <Curt> Seveas, yeah but I guess I dont really trust a command prompt to safely partition space
[12:29] <william> I have a problem, I updated Firefox, and now it gives me a library error.
[12:29] <dominiques> who are you people
[12:29] <insomnd> dermot, that is probably a setting in the monitor itself
[12:29] <william> /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libmozjs.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:29] <william> It's in the directory though
[12:29] <insomnd> dermot, try "auto-adjust" in your monitor
[12:29] <dominiques> :S
[12:29] <navarone> dermot...try System/Preferences/Screen Resolution if you are using gnome
[12:29] <GhostFreeman> is it possible to reinstall Ubuntu without losing any of my crap or does that need to be moved to another system first
[12:29] <Kovecses> Seveas, extra work........ lets agree to disagree on this one
[12:29] <insomnd> dominiques hi
[12:30] <insomnd> lol
[12:30] <Seveas> Kovecses, the server install is a pretty lean setup
[12:30] <dermot> i am, thanks navarone/insomnd will try
[12:30] <Kovecses> i think you guys are just ubuntu biased
[12:30] <Kovecses> which is ok
[12:30] <cafuego> !test
[12:30] <ubotu> Crashed.
[12:30] <Screemingblue> 3
[12:30] <slew> it would make sense, since its #ubuntu
[12:30] <william> Go to #Redhat then.:P
[12:30] <Screemingblue> 2
[12:30] <opnsrc> Well if you go into a Ubuntu chat room, you can expect the people to be Ubuntu Biased
[12:30] <opnsrc> Sheesh
[12:30] <insomnd> Kovecses, the way i think of it, Ubuntu is the better half of debian
[12:30] <mcphail> opnsrc: Sorry, click on edit at the top of the browser, then backgrounds & emblems
[12:31] <gnomefreak> ubotu is still down?
[12:31] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, gnomefreak
[12:31] <william> Anywyas
[12:31] <insomnd> Kovecses, and debian is real cool, so ubuntu has to be cooler
[12:31] <william> HELP
[12:31] <cafuego> insomnd: rtfm noob ;-)
[12:31] <william> I just killed Firefox
[12:31] <william> And I don't understand why
[12:31] <insomnd> cafuego, ??
[12:31] <cyphase> guess what i'm doing for an english paper :)
[12:32] <cyphase> Information Managment in the Gnome Desktop
[12:32] <Mulder> something about stallman or opensource
[12:32] <kvarntun> why does this -> comin up when i try to install anything?  (swe)  "Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)"
[12:32] <cyphase> might expand it..
[12:32] <cyphase> that's just a working title
[12:32] <gnomefreak> kvarntun, that is your cdrom repo in your sources list
[12:32] <oggah> I wonder if its possible to just have openoffice.org2 Writer and Calc installed.
[12:32] <cafuego> kvarntun: It wants the install cd to fetch the software from. That is the label on the CD most likely.
[12:32] <adrelita> hello
[12:33] <opnsrc> K thanks
[12:33] <cyphase> oggah, impress is a seperate package
[12:33] <oggah> apt-get install impress?
[12:33] <cyphase> no
[12:33] <cyphase> openoffice-impress
[12:33] <cyphase> i think..
[12:33] <nelposto> hey people... i'm trying to use rar at the console to extract all the rar files in a directory
[12:33] <cyphase> 1 sec
[12:33] <cafuego> openoffice.org2-impress
[12:33] <nelposto> any ideas on how?
[12:33] <kvarntun> cafuego,  i had just downloaded ubuntu and burnt it out, what kind of cd does it want??
[12:33] <cyphase> ok..
[12:33] <mcphail> nelposto: unrar x file
[12:34] <cafuego> kvarntun: The one you burned.
[12:34] <gnomefreak> kvarntun, the install cd
[12:34] <oggah> and what openoffice-parts does impress include?
[12:34] <opnsrc> thanks, it worked
[12:34] <cafuego> oggah: the presentation bit
[12:34] <opnsrc> I guess with Windows everything is combined, with Linux everything is separate.
[12:34] <lightbright> how can I convert a VOB into a AVI or MOV so I can use kinko to edit?
[12:34] <kvarntun> cafuego,  gnomefreak  okok THX!
[12:34] <opnsrc> I figure there was one menu where all of it can be changed all at once
[12:34] <dermot> guys were would i have to go to find files i had on windows in a partition?
[12:34] <insomnd> nelposto, download from rarsoft. for some reason the apt one doesnt work
[12:34] <opnsrc> Thanks
[12:34] <oggah> I think all other parts of openoffice than calc and writer is unnecessary.
[12:34] <gnomefreak> kvarntun,  anytime
[12:34] <nelposto> mcphail thanks, but I get a 'No files to extract' and I know there are files
[12:34] <oggah> ok
[12:34] <cyphase> oggahm they're all seperate packages
[12:34] <lightbright> how can I convert a VOB into a AVI or MOV so I can use kino to edit?
[12:34] <nelposto> insomnd ok thanks
[12:34] <cafuego> opnsrc: yes, Linux doesn't have rundll32.dll, which countains the entire OS, web, email and office ;-)
[12:35] <insomnd> nelposto, you dont have to install it its just a binary
[12:35] <opnsrc> In a way that's better
[12:35] <opnsrc> because everything is separate so you get more options
[12:35] <cafuego> opnsrc: Having sepearate packages is better in every way imaginable.
[12:35] <nelposto> insomnd .. well it doesn't seem to work from the command line as it ias
[12:35] <nelposto> is*
[12:35] <meriad> I just finished installing Ubuntu and I did apt-get update and what not.. but i still cant see a mplayer package in my apt repository.. any ideas?
[12:35] <Mulder> there is overhead from modularisation
[12:35] <opnsrc> yep
[12:35] <cafuego> opnsrc: There is 8still* an overall package that would fetch everything.
[12:35] <opnsrc> Just took me time to get used to
[12:35] <insomnd> nelposto, rar -v
[12:35] <insomnd> nelposto, which version is it?
[12:35] <NightCom> is DVD playback a possibility just with software provided by breezy?  or do you have to download additional software/codecs?
[12:36] <cyphase> oggah, jthe package name(s) is openoffice.org2-<app name>
[12:36] <cyphase> Writer, Calc, Math, Impress, Draw and Base
[12:36] <mcphail> nelposto: your warez download might have been corrupt... ;p
[12:36] <cyphase> lower case of course
[12:36] <oggah> okay!
[12:36] <oggah> great
[12:36] <nelposto> insomnd, mcphail version 3.30 ...  but see it extracts ok in nautilus
[12:36] <BlueDevil> meriad: did you enable multiverse?
[12:36] <gnomefreak> ha i found it :) im happy now as long as it works
[12:37] <oggah> then I'll just apt-get remove those I dont want :)
[12:37] <nelposto> problem is i want to extract about 1gb worth of rar files, and nautilus just breaks down when i give it the instruction
[12:37] <meriad> BlueDevil- no
[12:37] <meriad> BlueDevil- multiverse?
[12:37] <FlimFlamMan> i think my initial install is corrupted, but apt-get is working.  how can i correct the install?
[12:37] <opnsrc> Thanks
[12:37] <BlueDevil> meriad: yes, multiverse
[12:37] <insomnd> nelposto, try man rar, and see if theres an option to extract using rar instead of 'unrar'.
[12:37] <jrattner1> Does light scribe work in linux?
[12:37] <insomnd> nelposto, might be a confilic
[12:37] <insomnd> t
[12:37] <meriad> BlueDevil- dont thin so.
[12:37] <dermot> !xmms
[12:37] <ubotu> hmm... xmms is to get xmms to work in Ubuntu Hoary, set the output plugin to eSound (right-click on the XMMS window, then choose Options -> Preferences)
[12:37] <nelposto> ok insomnd i'll check
[12:38] <meriad> BlueDevil- heh lemme see 1 sec
[12:38] <oggah> the backports debs is unnecessary to have activated right now in sources.list, right?
[12:38] <oggah> because there arent any backports at the moment..?
[12:38] <opnsrc> I don't like backgrounds to be bright but I like for the text and background to have a lot of contrast
[12:38] <ndee> how can I increase the amount ov video memory in my X config file?
[12:39] <MiSS_n00b> im trying to download some stuff with synaptic, whenever i leave my comp for a while it gets disconnected how can i stop this
[12:39] <insomnd> ndee, run xorgconfig
[12:39] <kbrooks> MiSS_n00b, it's not synaptic
[12:39] <insomnd> ndee, only way i knoe.. or wait til someone else answers
[12:39] <BlueDevil> does anyone have a working webcam with a nvidia board?
[12:39] <ndee> insomnd: thx
[12:39] <meriad> BlueDevil- thnk =] s
[12:39] <cafuego> ndee: You do that by going into the BIOS and allocating more ram to the video chip. Editing the xorg.conf file is pointless.
[12:39] <BlueDevil> meriad: yw
[12:39] <opnsrc> thanks
[12:40] <ndee> cafuego: huh?!
[12:40] <ndee> cafuego: could you explain that a little bit more?
[12:40] <BlueDevil> ndee: onboard video?
[12:40] <cafuego> ndee: What video card/chip do you have?
[12:40] <oggah> gosh, I like Ubuntu. I like the whole linux-community.
[12:41] <Screemingblue> Anybody got Amarok to work with ipod?
[12:41] <ndee> I have a Geforce 6600GT and when I try to run tvtime, it tells me that it couldn't allocate enough off-screen video memory, I'm trying that with the live cd.
[12:41] <ndee> it's an AGP card
[12:42] <bimberi> oggah: there are packages in breezy-backports now
[12:42] <EXE759> When installing, can I create a new partition on my HDD without completely formatting it?
[12:43] <oggah> bimberi. kay.
[12:43] <bimberi> FlimFlamMan: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop might work
[12:43] <cafuego> ndee: X would detect the 256 or 128MB it has, surely.
[12:43] <oggah> what are the packages?
[12:43] <cafuego> ndee: You more likely need to load the correct modfules in X. Does xv load?
[12:43] <ndee> cafuego: that's what I'm thinking too. I tried the other suggestions to no avail.
[12:43] <ndee> cafuego: how can I test that?
[12:44] <BlueDevil> ndee: look at /var/log/Xorg.?.log
[12:44] <ndee> BlueDevil, k, gonna do that
[12:44] <clovis> 1961
[12:44] <bushito> eeehhh (O_o) what package do i need to install kubuntu, i am already installing kde desktop, what else do i need?? to go to kubuntu?
[12:44] <EdLin> the Ubuntu bugzilla site is slashdotted or something, I can't enter my bug report.
[12:44] <meriad> Ubuntu runs fairly nicely, im very impressed :)
[12:44] <meriad> except its down clocking my CPU
[12:44] <meriad> on my LAPTOP
[12:45] <meriad> heh
[12:45] <meriad> the bastadr :/
[12:45] <Determinist> meriad, install speedstep...
[12:45] <BlueDevil> bushito: kubuntu-desktop
[12:45] <meriad> Determinist- it supports speedstep?
[12:45] <meriad> Determinist- you gotta be shitting me
[12:45] <oggah> haha, the gnome-game "stones" is fun :)
[12:45] <Determinist> meriad, actually, no, i'm not, it does ;)
[12:45] <meriad> Determinist-  thast amazing
[12:45] <EXE759> quit
[12:45] <Determinist> meriad, i suppose :P
[12:45] <meriad> Determinist- aer we thinking of the same speedstep?
[12:45] <meriad> Determinist- Intel Speedstep?
[12:45] <Determinist> meriad, intel..., yes
[12:45] <meriad> omg.
[12:45] <meriad> hah
[12:45] <bimberi> oggah: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy-backports/
[12:45] <meriad> thats pertty dope :)
[12:46] <Determinist> meriad, ok? :P
[12:46] <meriad> Determinist- you know if NVIDIA GeForce2 supports GL Acceleration?
[12:46] <Determinist> meriad, hmmm, not sure, have a look at the legacy drivers package, i think it's part of that
[12:46] <BlueDevil> meriad: it does, to the best of my knowledge
[12:47] <Sanne> meriad: Determinist is right, I have a Geforce2 GTS and use the nvidia legacy drivers from the Ubuntu repositories.
[12:47] <sunshine82> need help settin up my scanner can someone please help me
[12:47] <sunshine82> im on breezy
[12:47] <meriad> Sanne- its for my laptop
[12:47] <meriad> Sanne- can't i just use nvidia sites drivers?
[12:48] <bushito> eeehhhh my ubuntu doesnt play: avi, mpg, mkv, mp3, ogg, mu3, etc, what tha fu ck is going on *cries* help =/
[12:48] <meriad> Sanne- or do I have to install the legacy drier..
[12:48] <Determinist> meriad, laptop or no laptop, it's the same chip mate :)
[12:48] <EdLin> meriad, I use the legacy driver for my TNT2 system.
[12:48] <lysis> MICROPHONE PROBLEM.     ok, so when i have teamspeak open, if i talk into the mic it reverbs and echoes itself over and over.
[12:48] <meriad> EdLin- fair enuf
[12:48] <lysis> i don't hve any other progs i could test;  any solutions?
[12:48] <meriad> EdLin- where do I fidn these legacy drivers
[12:48] <Determinist> bushito, did you install the proper codecs?
[12:48] <EdLin> meriad, even though it's called "legacy" doesn't mean it sucks.
[12:48] <oggah> bimberi, some of the packages listed at the backports-list. are marked [universe]  what, does that mean? and the packages not marked? whats specific with them?
[12:48] <lysis> BlueDevil, maybe you have some insight? =)
[12:48] <EdLin> meriad, in the Ubuntu repository.
[12:48] <BlueDevil> bushito: install mplayer & w32codecs
[12:48] <meriad> EdLin- i knowiit just refers to a deprecated release
[12:48] <bushito> uuh arigatou...
[12:48] <EdLin> meriad, depreciated != legacy
[12:48] <ndee> Bluedevil: for what would I be looking in the xorg log file?
[12:48] <meriad> EdLin- sure it is
[12:49] <lysis> i installed something that was an ALSA wrapper for OSS drivers.
[12:49] <meriad> EdLin- unsupported
[12:49] <meriad> EdLin- old.
[12:49] <Sanne> meriad: I would use the ubuntu precompiled packages. But if you want to use the drivers from the Nvidia site, make sure you download the driver version that supports your card. The latest won't do that!
[12:49] <meriad> EdLin- out of date
[12:49] <lysis> so i'm now at least GETTING sound. =)
[12:49] <meriad> Sanne- ok thanks
[12:49] <EdLin> meriad, depreciated means support will be removed in the future, legacy means the opososite
[12:49] <EdLin> opposite*
[12:49] <meriad> EdLin- oh ok
[12:49] <bimberi> oggah: unmarked packages are probably in main, universe is free software that is community (but not canonical) supported
[12:49] <bimberi> *Free
[12:49] <Sanne> meriad: that's why there's the *-legacy divers for the older cards like GeForce2.
[12:49] <bimberi> :P
[12:49] <meriad> the ubunto repositry can be scanned with apt-cache..
[12:49] <BlueDevil> lysis: teamspeak is working with aoss?
[12:50] <meriad> EdLin- would nvidia-glx-legacy seem approrpiate?
[12:50] <Determinist> meriad, just run a synaptic scan for nvidia, then install the proper legacy drivers, i think it's precompiled for certain kernels, so just pick one
[12:50] <opnsrc> Is there any software in SPM that checks Md5 checksums of files
[12:50] <opnsrc> ?
[12:51] <oggah> bimberi, aight. thanks.
[12:51] <ndee> VLC crashes when I try to play a normal video
[12:51] <bimberi> oggah: np :)
[12:51] <Determinist> opnsrc, spm?
[12:51] <EdLin> meriad, yep, that's one of the packages you'll need, the other is restricted modules with legacy in the name
[12:51] <opnsrc> I don't see it
[12:51] <sunshine82> need help settin up scanner
[12:51] <opnsrc> I typed it it's no there
[12:51] <sunshine82> im on breezy
[12:51] <meriad> EdLin- k
[12:51] <Determinist> opnsrc, i'm asking what SPM is lol
[12:51] <lysis> aoss?
[12:52] <upthecrek> my system boots to a prompt and not the desktop what do I do?
[12:52] <opnsrc> Synaptic Package manager?
[12:52] <lysis> BlueDevil, i don't know what aoss is, but i have teamspeak allowing me to say something, but it reverbs me endlessly
[12:52] <oggah> Anyone knows how to get those icons on the desktop smaller? they are a bit clumsy to me.
[12:52] <Determinist> opnsrc, ohh, never seen it called that, heh
[12:52] <lysis> all i did was load some ALSA wrapper
[12:52] <meriad> EdLin- linux-restrcted-modules=2.6.12-10-686-nvidia=legacy bah bah bah..
[12:52] <Determinist> opnsrc, i dont think it does, but i may be wrong
[12:52] <opnsrc> Well is there a terminal command
[12:52] <EdLin> meriad, yep, that and the glx legacy file are what you need.
[12:52] <BlueDevil> lysis: mute microphone playback
[12:52] <meriad> EdLin- perfect..
[12:52] <mcphail> opnsrc: just use md5sum
[12:53] <lysis> i don't know how.  lol
[12:53] <paul__> !ntfs
[12:53] <ubotu> [ntfs]  the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[12:53] <meriad> EdLin- im updating my kernel right now, i'll wait until its finished before i do anything
[12:53] <lysis> i was in alsamixer; but couldn't figure that out . . .
[12:53] <meriad> EdLin- heh just to make sure theres no ver conflicvf
[12:53] <opnsrc> oh thanks
[12:53] <BlueDevil> lysis: using the mixer
[12:53] <lightbright> I have been unable to find a way to Edit VOB files!  I have kino but it only edits avi and mov files!  Any solutions?
[12:53] <paul__> this mounts ntfs paritions are READ-only is there a way to make them read/write.
[12:53] <EdLin> meriad, then after you have them, run "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" and restart X
[12:53] <meriad> EdLin- alrighti e=] 
[12:53] <mcphail> paul__: try to avoid writing to ntfs
[12:53] <lysis> i'm in mixer; i don't see a place to mute mic.
[12:54] <bimberi> upthecrek: try reconfiguring X -   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:54] <opnsrc> thanks
[12:54] <lysis> like, i know how to press M to toggle mute on and off
[12:54] <djspindle> Anybody got any clue how to get the gnome menu to update automatically (installing a coupl'a debian (Sarge) packages that it doesn't recognise & don't wanna manually edit them in).
[12:54] <MiSS_n00b> i wish
[12:54] <lysis> but it doesn't have a box underneath "microphone"
[12:54] <lightbright> bimberi:  hello :)
[12:54] <paul__> i have a 24 inch dell lcd and a 6800 gefore card, but i cannot get resolutions any higher than 1280x something
[12:54] <paul__> and it looks like crap :/
[12:54] <bimberi> lightbright: 'mornin' :)
[12:54] <upthecrek> do I type that at the prompt?
[12:54] <lightbright> bimberi:  would you have any ideas please?  I have been unable to find a way to Edit VOB files!  I have kino but it only edits avi and mov files!  Any solutions?
[12:54] <upthecrek> I am running on the Live CD right now
[12:54] <lysis> ahh
[12:54] <paul__> i've tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but even when i select the right res's and additionally set the monitors vsync and hsync to right ranges, it still wont work.
[12:54] <chrisx1> any1 help
[12:54] <lysis> BlueDevil, i muted PHONE and it worked!
[12:54] <sunshine82> i have a canon canoscan lide 20
[12:54] <djspindle> paul__: have you tried manually editing in the extra values?
[12:55] <chrisx1> i go to play dvd on totem and i get Failed to find mountpoint for device /dev/hdd in /etc/fstab
[12:55] <Hobbsee> how do i manually force kubuntu to sync to the ntp.ubuntu server?
[12:55] <bimberi> lightbright: i don't know sorry
[12:55] <bimberi> :|
[12:55] <oggah> hrm, where is xorg.conf located.
[12:55] <paul__> /etc/x11/
[12:55] <oggah> thx!
[12:55] <Determinist> chrisx1, perhaps the media was not automounted
[12:55] <oggah> always forgets.
[12:55] <chrisx1> its automounted
[12:55] <BlueDevil> lightbright: http://gecius.de/linux/dvd.html
[12:55] <BlueDevil> lightbright: perhaps that helps
[12:56] <EdLin> oggah, actually its /etc/X11 (*nix is case sensitive)
[12:56] <RustyJames> is there an Instant Messenger for Ubuntu where you can use the video chat function (e.g. from MSN or the new ICQ)?
[12:56] <BlueDevil> sunshine82: how is the scanner connected to the computer? USB?
[12:56] <sunshine82> any ideas
[12:56] <Determinist> chrisx1, can you access the files on the DVD from /media/...?
[12:56] <BlueDevil> RustyJames: Kopete
[12:56] <opnsrc> The file downloaded wrong
[12:56] <opnsrc> :(
[12:56] <oggah> kay :)
[12:56] <sunshine82> bluedevil yes usb
[12:56] <RustyJames> BlueDevil, which version?
[12:56] <BlueDevil> lysis: that's great
[12:56] <opnsrc> and I wasted a CD, I usually check the checksums before burning. This time I forgot. Stupid me
[12:56] <screemingblue> Anyone got Amarok to transfer files to ipod?
[12:56] <BlueDevil> RustyJames: KDE 3.5 one
[12:56] <upthecrek> bimberi do I type that at the prompt?
[12:57] <chrisx1> no
[12:57] <bushito> !enter
[12:57] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[12:57] <chrisx1> mplayer plays it on Determinist
[12:57] <chrisx1> *it ok
[12:57] <Determinist> chrisx1, i see
[12:57] <sunshine82> bluedevil ive connected it to the computer but there no light inside and ive goin to xsane in graphics and it say nno devices
[12:57] <chrisx1> but the res are crap
[12:57] <opnsrc> Thanks
[12:58] <chrisx1> Determinist, when i instert the dvd it shows on dektop
[12:58] <Determinist> chrisx1, did you check totem's settings? perhaps it's trying to look for DVD's at the wrong place?
[12:58] <opnsrc> Kanotix is probably the best Boot Cd I've used
[12:58] <djspindle> paul__: yup /etc/X11/xorg.conf ... just manually add whatever resolutions you want. Worked for me :)
[12:58] <lysis> BlueDevil, you've been an awesome help man.  thanks. =)
[12:58] <BlueDevil> lysis: yw
[12:58] <RustyJames> BlueDevil, ah ok, anything for hoary?
[12:58] <chrisx1> Determinist, where do i change it?
[12:58] <lightbright> BlueDevil: ok thanks ill have a look
[12:58] <Determinist> chrisx1, i've had a similiar problem with xmms in the past
[12:58] <lightbright> bimberi:  ty anyway :)
[12:58] <opnsrc> It's small like crazy but detects all my hardware (on more than one computer I've tried), internet connections, hard drives, file systems, etc...
[12:58] <bimberi> upthecrek: yep (without the 'might work' :) )
[12:58] <BlueDevil> RustyJames: that i don't know... sorry
[12:59] <upthecrek> :)
[12:59] <RustyJames> BlueDevil, ok thanx
[12:59] <chrisx1> Determinist, theres nothing on the disk according to file browser
[12:59] <Determinist> chrisx1, i actually have no idea, but i'm also not at home right now, so i cant really test to see for myself
[12:59] <dermot> anyone know how i can change colour of background of terminal before the white makes me go insane?
[12:59] <chrisx1> damn:(
[12:59] <Determinist> dermot, settings, edit profile
[01:00] <wickedpuppy> dermot, edit -> current profile
[01:00] <Determinist> or view...
[01:00] <meriad> Determinist- where is SpeedStep
[01:00] <dermot> thanks
[01:00] <meriad> Determinist- whast the package called?
[01:00] <Determinist> meriad, it's a kernel module
[01:00] <BlueDevil> sunshine82: do you know by any chance if the scanner is supported on linux?
[01:00] <meriad> Determinist- ohhh
[01:00] <meriad> Determinist- how do I modify the various settings associated with that module?
[01:00] <chrisx1> any1 help with totem?
[01:00] <meriad> Determinist- there an interface to it
[01:00] <Determinist> hmmm, that requires a little check on my behalf
[01:00] <Seveas> !help
[01:01] <djspindle> Chrisx1: what u need done to totem?
[01:01] <_jason> hi is it possible to have two passwords for the same user?  I would like one password to only work if someone is not remote;y logging in.
[01:01] <ndee> juhu, just installed the nvidia drivers and now tvtime works :)
[01:01] <chrisx1> well i go to play dvd says not found in fstab
[01:01] <Seveas> _jason, no
[01:01] <chrisx1> djspindle, Failed to find mountpoint for device /dev/hdd in /etc/fstab
[01:01] <wickedpuppy> _jason, whats the use ? remote or not same user = same privileges
[01:01] <BlueDevil> _jason: i think it might be possible using a not so trivial pam setup
[01:02] <BlueDevil> and plugin
[01:02] <Determinist> meriad, lsmod | grep speed , does it show there?
[01:02] <_jason> wickedpuppy, I want an easy to type password on my system (makes it easier to use sudo) and a really complex one for remotely logging in
[01:02] <Seveas> BlueDevil, scary but probably true
[01:02] <meriad> Determinist- yes it does
[01:02] <BlueDevil> :)
[01:02] <meriad> Determinist- i alread did taht :)
[01:02] <_jason> wickedpuppy, I would block remote use of sudo too btw
[01:02] <meriad> Determinist-thats why i was asking about an interface
[01:02] <Seveas> _jason, use an ssh key for remote logins
[01:02] <meriad> Determinist- i suppose i could unload the module..
[01:02] <oggah> the opera-icon on the upper bar is quite ugly, how can I change it to another?
[01:02] <Seveas> with a hard passphrase on it
[01:02] <djspindle> chrisx1: had a similar problem ... I installed a rawdevice driver from the debian sarge distro & it disappeared. go figure. Maybe try the same
[01:03] <oggah> and where to download.
[01:03] <mcphail> _jason: log in with shared keys instead of passwords
[01:03] <chrisx1> ?
[01:03] <Determinist> meriad, hmm, i think it should be on the services interface, or was it on BUM?
[01:03] <sunshine82> bluedevil when i search on google it say it suppose to just recognize it straight away well the lide 30 i dont know
[01:03] <_jason> Seveas, mcphail ok let me read up on it, thanks
[01:03] <paul__> what is a client similar to smartftp/ftprush/flashfxp for ubuntu?
[01:03] <meriad> Determinist- not sure
[01:03] <Seveas> paul__, gftp
[01:03] <bushito> BlueDevil, hey it says cannot find the mplayer and codecs, what can i do?
[01:03] <paul__> ta
[01:04] <BlueDevil> sunshine82: what's the scanner model?
[01:04] <paul__> Seveas, best way to install this?
[01:04] <BlueDevil> bushito: did you enable multiverse?
[01:04] <BlueDevil> !repos
[01:04] <ubotu> it has been said that repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[01:04] <sunshine82> bluedevil canon canoscan lide 20
[01:04] <Seveas> paul__, sudo apt-get install gftp
[01:04] <bimberi> oggah: right-click, properties, click on the icon, download? opera.com?
[01:04] <bushito> BlueDevil, multi..... what??
[01:05] <khalif> Hey guys, I have a really big problem that I need your help with.
[01:05] <BlueDevil> bushito: read up on the first link that ubotu posted
[01:05] <lightbright> BlueDevil: thats website doesnt say how to edit a VOB file
[01:05] <lightbright> BlueDevil:  how can I convert a VOB file using Ubuntu?
[01:05] <khalif> I got a seriously infected windows box that I want to wipe clean and install ubuntu on.
[01:05] <Determinist> ok , home i go, shift's over
[01:05] <BlueDevil> lightbright: i didn't say it did, i said it might be of help
[01:06] <lightbright> BlueDevil:  ok, how can I convert a VOB file using Ubuntu?
[01:06] <wickedpuppy> khalif, that doesn't sound like a problem ... wiping out windows i mean ...
[01:06] <nowisn> hey all I'm trying to setup kppp to dialup my isp but its saying it can't find the modem which is a laptop 3420 eurocom MDG 56 k onboard modem
[01:06] <djspindle> Khalif: format & start over, buddy :)
[01:06] <khalif> The problem is that the box is infected that it starts to hang before I can get into the control panel to set it to boot from the disk
[01:06] <ndee> ubuntu is really sweet :)
[01:07] <wickedpuppy> khalif, you can do so from bios ... no need control panel
[01:07] <ndee> now if there is a good dreamweaver replacment, I might consider working with linux :)
[01:07] <djspindle> Bios id the way ... which ubuntu package you got?
[01:07] <Hobbsee> ndee: why not run dreamweaver under wine?
[01:07] <lightbright> it seems Ubuntu is unable to edit VOB files :(  too bad
[01:07] <khalif> How can I get into the BIOS before Widows starts
[01:07] <ndee> Hobbsee: oh, does that work?
[01:07] <wickedpuppy> khalif, . or del when the com boots
[01:08] <Hobbsee> ndee: well...sorta...i got the install to run a few months ago, but not the program - probably worth trying, because it says it's pretty close
[01:08] <djspindle> khalif: hit del when the computer starts the memory check (should tell you on your boot screen
[01:08] <ndee> ok, but do you maybe know a good replacment?
[01:08] <khalif> Only Dreamweaver MX Not the newest version
[01:08] <wickedpuppy> ndee, you can run dreamweaver under crossover .. it runs well
[01:08] <lightbright> BlueDevil: any ideas?
[01:08] <x3ndou> Hey, after plugging in a USB mini mouse it doesn't work; is there something I could type into terminal to make it work?
[01:08] <khalif> What's crossover?
[01:08] <jason> I'm not getting a response in #ndiswrapper but need a little help with my wireless card. Anyone available?
[01:08] <wickedpuppy> khalif, google for it
[01:09] <khalif> Sp press delete?
[01:09] <oggah> bimberi, found a _really_ nice opera-icon at kde-look.org :D
[01:09] <chrisx1> hey i attempted to mount my cdrom drive
[01:09] <chrisx1> and i cant eject it
[01:09] <chrisx1> its tryin to read from it atm
[01:09] <meriad> so does anyone here know how to set my cpu to its max speed
[01:09] <mcphail> chrisx1: type "eject"
[01:09] <meriad> rather than having it run at a slower sped
[01:09] <Hobbsee> ndee: i havent found one, but havent looked terribly hard.  nvu is quite nice, but i've never been able to make the ftp on it work
[01:09] <djspindle> Khalif: what system are you running?
[01:09] <meriad> there we go
[01:09] <meriad> fixed it
[01:09] <sunshine82> bluedevil any ideasa
[01:10] <jason> I'm not getting a response in #ndiswrapper but need a little help with my wireless card. Anyone available?
[01:10] <mcphail> jason: what type of card?
[01:10] <chrisx1> mcphail, i did
[01:10] <oggah> For you Opera-people want a nice winter-stylish Operaicon. Check it out: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=29424
[01:10] <BlueDevil> sunshine82: i just read up and it seems the scanner works on linux
[01:10] <khalif> The box that I'm trying to wipe has XP Pro on it. It's so much freakin Malware on it. It was my mother's. I'm so pissed, I just wanna smack her, :)!
[01:11] <ndee> Hobbsee: ok, thanks for the info.
[01:11] <nowisn> how do I look for my modem or are there any drivers in kubuntu?
[01:11] <BlueDevil> sunshine82: is the scanner powered on?
[01:11] <MiSS_n00b> smack ur mom :O
[01:11] <Hobbsee> ndee: no problems - tell me how it goes please :)
[01:11] <jason> mcphail: Just picked up a Belkin F5D7000
[01:11] <BlueDevil> sunshine82: i expect it has an external transformer or smth
[01:11] <Hobbsee> ndee: i'd like to know for when i end up writing more webpages
[01:11] <paul__> gftp doesnt support tls/ssl ftp connections
[01:11] <paul__> is there any other?
[01:11] <x3ndou> Is there any way to make a USB mouse work right after plugging it in?
[01:11] <ndee> anyway, shouldn't mp3 playback be pretty standard for a live CD?
[01:11] <Mulder> nowisn, if its serial modem you dont need a driver
[01:11] <ndee> Hobbsee: ok :)
[01:11] <jason> mcphail: I've installed ndiswrapper and have gotten as far as having the hardware detected when I run 'ndiswrapper -l'
[01:12] <Seveas> paul__, take gftp from seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:12] <djspindle> Khalif: when your system boots, what appears on the screen (before windows starts to load)
[01:12] <mcphail> jason: which driver have you installed?
[01:12] <jason> mcphail: Installed the rs2500 driver
[01:12] <Seveas> that one does have ssl support
[01:12] <jason> mcphail: So the exact text I get returned when I run ndiswrapper -l is...
[01:12] <sunshine82> bluedevil it only seem to have usb connection
[01:12] <nowisn> mulder then how do i get it to detect?
[01:12] <oggah> Is apache, myqsl and php installed by default in breezy.
[01:12] <Mulder> nowisn: if your 'modem' is actually an overglorified soundcard, then there may or may not be drivers. any drivers that exist may or may not be free
[01:12] <bimberi> oggah: looks good! :)
[01:12] <jason> mcphail: rt2500  driver present, hardware present
[01:13] <khalif> Only the Gateway monitor logo shows and then Windows starts. Whoever set my mother's computer, set it to bypass the BIOS menu. That's why I was trying to get into the control panel to reset it....
[01:13] <Seveas> jason, for rt2500 you don't need ndiswrapper...
[01:13] <BlueDevil> sunshine82: it's hard do believe that it's moving the motors with power drained only from usb port
[01:13] <Mulder> nowisn, what kind of modem do you have?
[01:13] <Seveas> !rt2500
[01:13] <ubotu> Seveas: Are you smoking crack?
[01:13] <Seveas> !no
[01:13] <ubotu> No Offense
[01:13] <jason> Seveas: Did I mess it up then?
[01:13] <BlueDevil> sunshine82: is the scanner working on windows?
[01:14] <Seveas> jason, not pre se, you can use ndiswrapper, but the rt2500 also has real linux drivers
[01:14] <paul__> Seveas, forgive me for asking, but what is the process for installing from that link?
[01:14] <sunshine82> bluedevil i dont know i think so my sister had it on windows im on ubuntu breezy
[01:14] <bimberi> oggah: no - but have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[01:14] <Seveas> that one does have ssl support <-- paul__
[01:14] <nowisn> MDC modem onboard in a eurocom 3420 laptop
[01:14] <paul__> i've downloaded the .deb file.. i dont really know how do install it as there are about 10 different gftp files..
[01:14] <jason> Seveas: Well, it seems like it loaded the driver and says the hardware is present but I see no lights on the wireless card
[01:14] <djspindle> Khalif: you got the instruction manual for your motherboard? should be a "jumper setting" to reset your bios. Other than that, try smacking del key anyway ... might still work (does on the Dell machines)
[01:14] <nowisn> maybe intergrated with sound card
[01:14] <Seveas> paul__, sudo dpkg -i gftp-*.deb
[01:15] <lysis> BlueDevil, since you were so helpful before . . . have you ever used imwheel?
[01:15] <khalif> Sorry guys, my IRC program crashed on me... :(
[01:15] <mikul> damn! get an error when i am trying to make the kernel :S dose anyone know what its about? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5468
[01:15] <lysis> i have the Logitech Cordless MX Duo;  the mouse has like, 72 buttons on it.  just trying to get them all to work. =)
[01:15] <mcphail> jason: modprobe ndiswrapper
[01:15] <djspindle> Khalif: try hit del anyway ... otherwise you got the manuals for your motherboard?
[01:15] <HrdwrBoB> lysis: to what end?
[01:15] <lysis> i installed IMWHEEL from synaptic, but if i type in imwheel -c it doesn't bring up the config like it's supposed to
[01:16] <djspindle> Khalif .... works on the Dell machines
[01:16] <HrdwrBoB> lysis: imwheel is completely obsolete
[01:16] <khalif> nope not one book at all....
[01:16] <lysis> HrdwrBoB, i've got two side buttons i'd like to function.
[01:16] <battlecat> Anyone know what to do to reset the SU password? I have tried both of my stand passwords with no luck.
[01:16] <thewayofzen> just out of curiousity is anyone using dapper?
[01:16] <jason> mcphail: OK, ran it, no results returned, just went back to the prompt.
[01:16] <paul__> Seveas, http://pastebin.com/451761
[01:16] <HrdwrBoB> thewayofzen: only the insane and the developers
[01:16] <khalif> This is an IBM box. I found something online that says that I should try ctrl + ins?
[01:16] <Mulder> nowisn, yeah see.. tat doesnt actually tell us much. you should go to www.linmodems.org and get the tool to scan for the modem
[01:16] <BlueDevil> lysis: yes, long, long time ago
[01:16] <HrdwrBoB> .. oh wait, that's redundant
[01:16] <HrdwrBoB> only the insane
[01:16] <khalif> What's the ins key?
[01:16] <lysis> HrdwrBoB, i don't really have a preference to what i use; but i'd like to get all my buttons recognizable to the system so i can use them. currently side button (button 3 technically) is button 1 and button 4 is button 2.  the right click is button 1 and middle click is button 2 (left click being button 0)
[01:16] <sunshine82> bluedevil i've llook it up it say the usb is meant to be the power cord
[01:17] <BlueDevil> lysis: 5+ years back
[01:17] <djspindle> Try opening up your box & googling the model for you board ... there might be a jumper setting to reset you bios.
[01:17] <thewayofzen> HrdwrBoB, i figured as much.. but im bored and wondering ho wbad i might break my system if i tried
[01:17] <mcphail> jason: any clues from dmesg?
[01:17] <HrdwrBoB> lysis: edit xorg.conf and change 'Buttons'
[01:17] <HrdwrBoB> thewayofzen: last time I checked, it didn't even boot because the module/hal system was terribly broken
[01:17] <djspindle> Khalif: Ins is insert
[01:17] <jason> mcphail: ndiswrapper version 1.1 loaded (preempt=no,smp=no)
[01:17] <_jason> lysis, what kind of mouse
[01:17] <lysis> whereis xorg.conf brings up nothing
[01:17] <thewayofzen> HrdwrBoB,  in that case i will wait lol
[01:17] <lysis> Logitech MX 700
[01:17] <khalif> My bad, It's a gateway box....
[01:17] <lysis> logitech has no linux drivers.
[01:17] <jason> mcphail: But the next line is 'ra0: no IPv6 routers present
[01:17] <jason> '
[01:17] <thewayofzen> HrdwrBoB,  good thing i asked cause i was just about to update my source list
[01:17] <Kyral> Logitech what?
[01:18] <bushito> i cannot install things i always get this message  Package lame is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source
[01:18] <nowisn> okay
[01:18] <lysis> yea i don't have a xorg.conf . . .
[01:18] <lysis> Kyral, MX700 it's a mouse.
[01:18] <lysis> HrdwrBoB, where's the xorg.conf? lol
[01:18] <sunshine82> bluedevil hold on the device manager recognize so how come xsane in graphics cant
[01:18] <bimberi> lysis: /etc/X11
[01:18] <oxez> ^
[01:18] <Kyral> bushito: sudo apt-get install lame
[01:18] <bimberi> lysis: try locate rather than whereis
[01:18] <Kyral> its there...
[01:19] <lysis> why would one work and not the other?  locate worked btw. =)
[01:19] <bushito> same error, Kyral
[01:19] <Kyral> bushito: Do you have Universe and Multiverse up?
[01:19] <mcphail> jason: and iwconfig?
[01:19] <BlueDevil> sunshine82: try another scan program
[01:19] <Seveas> paul__, add my repo to your sources.list and do apt-get install gftp
[01:19] <bushito> Kyral, how do i make that available?, i dont think i got em
[01:19] <sunshine82> bluedevil like what
[01:19] <lysis> Section "InputDevice"
[01:19] <lysis> 	Identifier	"Generic Mouse"
[01:19] <lysis> 	Driver		"mouse"
[01:19] <lysis> 	Option		"CorePointer"
[01:19] <lysis> 	Option		"Device"		"/dev/input/mice"
[01:19] <lysis> 	Option		"Protocol"		"ImPS/2"
[01:19] <Kyral> Ubotu is back right?
[01:19] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, Kyral
[01:19] <lysis> EndSection
[01:19] <_jason> lysis, whereis tell's you where a command is run from.  Like firefox is /usr/bin/firefox
[01:19] <jason> mcphail: ra0       RT2500 Wireless  ESSID:"TheMatrix"
[01:19] <jason>           Mode:Managed  Frequency=2.412 GHz  Bit Rate:11 Mb/s
[01:19] <jason>           RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[01:19] <jason>           Link Quality=0/100  Signal level=-82 dBm  Noise level:-192 dBm
[01:19] <jason>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[01:19] <lysis> that is all i have regarding a mouse
[01:19] <jason>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[01:19] <lysis> no buttons
[01:19] <Kyral> I guess so
[01:20] <_jason> !pastebin
[01:20] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[01:20] <Kyral> ubotu tell bushito about repos
[01:20] <lysis> _jason, thanks. i didn't know that. =)
[01:20] <BlueDevil> sunshine82: kooka
[01:20] <bimberi> lysis: whereis is used to "locate the binary, source, and manual page files for a command"
[01:20] <Mulder> i wish moe people used 5ghz
[01:20] <Mulder> 2.4ghz is too congested
[01:20] <Kyral> bushito: read what Ubotu just told you
[01:20] <Kyral> and try again
[01:20] <bushito> thx
[01:20] <jason> lysis: What?
[01:20] <khalif> I'm in, I needed to press 'f1' !
[01:21] <lysis> jason, was talking to _jason.  sorry for any confusion. =)
[01:21] <jason> lysis: My bad. Sorry.
[01:21] <sunshine82> bluedevil do i uninstall xsane
[01:21] <manager> hi
[01:21] <djspindle> Khalif: Sorted china ... welcome to the right side of the force ... enjoy ubuntu.
[01:21] <BlueDevil> sunshine82: no
[01:21] <lysis> HrdwrBoB, i am in xorg.conf but it doesn't have a buttons section.  any suggestions?
[01:21] <oggah> How is you decision? Do you update all the latest backports or wait until next release?
[01:21] <lichte> I just installed Breezy and it keeps locking up so hard that even the acpi button won't shutdown the system;  I can't find anything in the logs that would tell me what the problem is; anyone have any ideas on troubleshooting ?
[01:21] <HrdwrBoB> lysis:  in the mouse section
[01:21] <HrdwrBoB> it has a buttons thing
[01:21] <lysis> Section "InputDevice"
[01:21] <lysis> 	Identifier	"Generic Mouse"
[01:21] <lysis> 	Driver		"mouse"
[01:21] <lysis> 	Option		"CorePointer"
[01:21] <lysis> 	Option		"Device"		"/dev/input/mice"
[01:21] <lysis> 	Option		"Protocol"		"ImPS/2"
[01:21] <lysis> EndSection
[01:21] <lysis> HrdwrBoB, that's all it has.
[01:21] <kvarntun> how do i get my cam to work in Kopete?
[01:21] <_jason> lysis don't paste here
[01:22] <jason> mcphail: Wouldn't that indicate it's seeing my wireless network?
[01:22] <Kyral> ubotu tell lysis about pastebin
[01:22] <lysis> _jason, sorry . . .
[01:22] <mcphail> jason: it all looks good to me
[01:22] <BlueDevil> lysis: whereis locates binaries or manual pages, not config files
[01:22] <djspindle> Lichte: are you trying to boot with any usb cameras or flash disks attached?
[01:22] <burnhamd> hey guys i messed up the session list
[01:22] <lysis> BlueDevil, thanks =)
[01:22] <lichte> djspindle, nope
[01:22] <jason> mcphail: No lights on the wireless card though.
[01:22] <burnhamd> I put xcompmgr first and metacity wont load
[01:22] <kvarntun> how do i get my cam to work in Kopete?
[01:22] <lysis> HrdwrBoB, any suggestions? i wouldn't know how to "add" a buttons section
[01:22] <lichte> djspindle, all other versions of ubuntu ran just fine
[01:22] <burnhamd> how do i edit this when im not in gnome
[01:22] <djspindle> Where about does the screen lock?
[01:23] <mcphail> jason: do you have an ip address on ifconfig?
[01:23] <lichte> djspindle, anywhere
[01:23] <lichte> djspindle, it does it after a certain amount of time
[01:23] <BlueDevil> lysis: why would you need logitech mouse drivers for linux?
[01:23] <kvarntun^sweden> Is there any linux messenger that works with Webcam?
[01:23] <RatX> anybody else had issues with apt-get update on ubuntu behind a firewall?  I've found it fails even when the box is allowed full access.
[01:23] <BlueDevil> lysis: they suck for windows anyways
[01:23] <RatX> Found a fix - setting and http_proxy fixes it
[01:23] <burnhamd> can someone tell me how to edit the things that start on
[01:23] <burnhamd> gnome startup
[01:23] <lysis> BlueDevil, they don't exist; but i want my other buttons to work.  LOL  i know they suck for windows.  like i said; i have two thumb buttons not doing me any good right now. i need their functionality.  don't know how to make em work.
[01:24] <lysis> BlueDevil, any suggestions?
[01:24] <djspindle> Litche: does the Ubuntu boot screen appear? and do devices load?
[01:24] <lichte> djspindle, it boots just fine
[01:24] <jason> mcphail: Weird, no IP but there is a inet6 addr....
[01:24] <_jason> bur[n] er, system -> pref -> sessions -> startup
[01:24] <jason> mcphail:  inet6 addr: fe80::211:50ff:fe62:ca75/64
[01:24] <kvarntun^sweden> Is there any linux messenger that works with Webcam?
[01:24] <lichte> djspindle, no boot screen, just the normal text during boot
[01:24] <burnhamd> is there a conf file that has the things that start up when gnome loads
[01:24] <djspindle> Ok ... so you're in ubuntu and it crashes. Overclocking?
[01:24] <lichte> djspindle, and then up comes gdm
[01:24] <lichte> djspindle, LOL
[01:24] <RatX> kvarntun^sweden - I think the new Skype has video and supportsLinux
[01:25] <lichte> djspindle, no, I'm on  a Via C3 box
[01:25] <jason> mcphail: Shouldn't there also be an actual IP address listed?
[01:25] <mcphail> jason: inet6 just make my head hurt. Try configuring the card in /etc/network/interfaces then ifdown/ifup
[01:25] <bimberi> ubotu tell kvarntun^sweden about gaim-vv
[01:25] <Griver> is there a way to make totem use xine-lib 1.1.1 instead of 1.0.1?
[01:25] <lysis> ubotu tell lysis about gaim-vv
[01:26] <aussie> hello
[01:26] <lichte> djspindle, both warty and hoary ran just fine
[01:26] <sunshine82> bluedevil how do i get this to work
[01:26] <bimberi> aussie: g'day
[01:26] <burnhamd> does anyone know what file controls the things that starts on the load of gnome
[01:26] <lichte> djspindle, I also ran breezy beta OK
[01:26] <lysis> it doesn't let me tell myself; someone tell ubotu to tell me about GAIM-VV too. =)
[01:26] <djspindle> So the GDM loads properly, geez ... you got a funny! :)
[01:26] <BlueDevil> lysis: http://floam.sh.nu/index.xhtml?page=guides&section=mx1000
[01:26] <aussie> this is cool sorry.. just new here
[01:26] <bimberi> lysis: /msg ubotu gaim-vv
[01:26] <MiSS_n00b> anyone know a good place to get themes
[01:26] <atrophic> lysis, register your nick and it will let you send private messages
[01:26] <jason> mcphail: I'm in that location and opened a file named interfaces, is that where I should be?
[01:26] <BlueDevil> sunshine82: did you try kooka?
[01:26] <burnhamd> gdm loads
[01:27] <bimberi> !tell lysys about gaim-vv
[01:27] <burnhamd> but metacity wont
[01:27] <oggah> Lets say ta new Xchat-version has been released this hour. The sources-files is always released(?) Is the Ubuntu-team compile these sources-files and then put them on all servers worldwide? How big time is there between the new release, and, when its possible to apt-get install it?
[01:27] <aussie> learning ubuntu here mark from australiia
[01:27] <Hobbsee> oggah: a while, it would have to be requested in backports first
[01:27] <mcphail> jason: yes. You can put config options here (including static ip or dhcp)
[01:27] <aussie> could learn heaps from this room
[01:27] <Hobbsee> oggah: but there would be nothing stopping you from grabbing the source, and compiling it yourself
[01:28] <oggah> Hobbsee, ok. I see!
[01:28] <Hobbsee> aussie: definetly!  hi from nsw, btw
[01:28] <Hobbsee> oggah: :)
[01:28] <bimberi> oggah: ... or wait for someone else to backport it
[01:28] <aussie> hello bimberi
[01:28] <sunshine82> bluedevil well i installed it and i have it open at the moment but it not doin anythin
[01:28] <aussie>  hi hobbsee ... cool.. vic here
[01:28] <bimberi> aussie: hi, A.C.T here
[01:28] <oggah> I can always complie files, and install files in Linux if I have them as source, right?
[01:28] <MiSS_n00b> bloody aussies :P
[01:28] <Hobbsee> LOL @ MiSS_n00b
[01:29] <oggah> *linuxnoob*
[01:29] <BlueDevil> sunshine82: it didn't ask about the device to use?
[01:29] <sunshine82> bluedevil how do i check if it set up with sane or if sane know it exist
[01:29] <djspindle> Lichte: how much time till it freezes? Do you get into gnome properly or just the log in screen?
[01:29] <Hobbsee> oggah: technically, yes, you might have some trouble based on what it is
[01:29] <MiSS_n00b> i prefer marmite ;)
[01:29] <aussie> does my ip address or my email address show when i tye in the room ?
[01:29] <mcphail> jason: man 5 interfaces
[01:29] <lightbright> I playing a downloaded stream that saved to hard drive using firefox! what folder exactly is this in?
[01:29] <Kyral> aussie: no
[01:29] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: but it's nice! :)
[01:29] <Hobbsee> it is!
[01:29] <sunshine82> bluedevil it hasnt done anythig just  open
[01:29] <MiSS_n00b> yes!
[01:30] <oggah> gosh. I've really learned alot bout Ubuntu tonight.
[01:30] <bimberi> aussie: you ip does, not your email
[01:30] <lichte> djspindle, I can get in; if I don't log in it still locks up
[01:30] <BlueDevil> sunshine82: sorry, i don't have much experience with usb scanners on linux, you might have better luck trying to find someone else to help you
[01:30] <lichte> djspindle, it will lock up no matter what I do
[01:30] <TheMuffenMann> lightbrige..it should be in your home folder
[01:30] <aussie> thanks binberi
[01:30] <jason> mcphail: Looking at it now. Should there be an ra0 entry already?
[01:30] <khalif> Man my laptop is newer than this box. It's a Gateway 2000, 350 MHz, front side bus 100 MHz, 512 KB cache RAM, 64 mb sdram! There is no way that I can put ubuntu on here. This box is screwed!
[01:30] <TheMuffenMann> lightbright*
[01:30] <bimberi> aussie: i mean, your IP can be obtained
[01:30] <Lewix> hey guys I can't download the dvd iso of ubuntu...all links are down, any ideas where I can find it
[01:30] <khalif> I don't know how she had XP Pro running on here....
[01:30] <misfit_toy> aussie 60.240.231.31
[01:30] <mcphail> jason: i don't think so. There will probably be an eth0 however
[01:30] <thewayofzen> aussie,  anyone can do /dns aussie  for your ip
[01:30] <RatX> khalif: have a look at vectorlinux
[01:30] <BlueDevil> sunshine82: the only scanner i've used in linux was connected to the computer through an extension board
[01:31] <aussie> yes i know.. know a bit about puters.. but would love to learn more
[01:31] <lichte> djspindle, bbl
[01:31] <khalif> What's that?
[01:31] <jason> mcphail: So can I just copy it and change the eth0 to ra0?
[01:31] <RatX> khalif: lightweight Linux
[01:31] <doofy`> I have mldonkey installed and it works fine, but I can not get a single gui to work. The one in the repositories installes, but I do not know how to run it.
[01:31] <Lewix> hey guys I can't download the dvd iso of ubuntu...all links are down, any ideas where I can find it
[01:31] <khalif> Really?
[01:31] <burnhamd> bittorrent
[01:31] <RatX> khalif: yeah, do a search
[01:32] <djspindle> Khalif: lol ... sorry buddy. looks like its time for an upgrade. It will still run ubuntu, though ... running on my lady's machine (200MMX with 32M ram ... still simm, not even sd!)
[01:32] <khalif> I'm Googling now.....
[01:32] <doofy`> nevermind, figured it out. mlgui.
[01:32] <RatX> have been looking at it to install on my seriously underpowered laptop, but haven't had the time yet
[01:32] <thewayofzen> damn small linux would run on such a box too
[01:32] <aussie> using ubuntu 64 live here.. works very welll
[01:32] <MiSS_n00b> im running ubuntu on a 366mhz:|
[01:32] <mcphail> jason: almost. Depends on whether you need to set any specific wirless options. You'd also need to run sudo ifdown eth0 then comment out any entries in that file.
[01:32] <RatX> good writeups, though
[01:32] <mcphail> jason: best to make a backup of that file first
[01:32] <jason> mcphail: When I opened it it says I'm read-only
[01:33] <mcphail> jason: use sudo.
[01:33] <bushito> i added multiuniverse i added more resources and everything that the ubotu told me and gues whatr =), E: Couldn't find package mplayer
[01:33] <Fridge> mornning all
[01:33] <mcphail> jason: the GNOME network configuration tool might do the same job for you.
[01:33] <aussie> morn fridge
[01:33] <khalif> It's crazy. What we should is get everyone together that has boxes four+ years old, load Linux on them and put them into a grid and turn it into a Supercomputer! :)
[01:33] <Fridge> hows tricks ??
[01:33] <jason> mcphail: Getting confused, sorry.
[01:33] <Kyral> bushito: you have to install one of mplayer-<arch>
[01:34] <bushito> it doesnt even know whats mplayer is i dont think i will install a part =)
[01:34] <aussie> ther are a lot of people in this room.. cool
[01:34] <djspindle> Khalif: lol ... great and make one giant calculator! :)
[01:34] <Fridge> anyone answering question tonight
[01:34] <Hobbsee> aussie: yeah, just a few lol
[01:34] <Kyral> bushito: do an apt-cache search mplayer
[01:34] <Kyral> !find mplayer
[01:34] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'mplayer' (11 shown): mozilla-mplayer ;; mplayer-386 ;; mplayer-586 ;; mplayer-686 ;; mplayer-custom ;; mplayer-doc ;; mplayer-fonts ;; mplayer-k6 ;; mplayer-k7 ;; mplayer-nogui ;; xmms-xmmplayer.
[01:34] <Kyral> !botsnack
[01:34] <ubotu> :)
[01:35] <optish> how can i make firefox 1.5 (installed in /opt) default browser with xfce/xubuntu?
[01:35] <paul__> where are the sources used by apt-get kept?
[01:35] <Fridge> I got given a finger print scanner and was wondering if there is any software I can use with it
[01:35] <Kyral> optish: you can't right now on Breezy
[01:35] <Kyral> paul__: /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:35] <bimberi> paul__: repository list is in /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:35] <mcphail> jason: i'm not on my laptop just now, so i can't show you my /etc/network/interfaces setup. But man 5 interfaces tells you what you need to know
[01:35] <bushito> mga-vid-source - Kernel driver for the back-end scaler on Matrox cards (source), and so? (O_o)
[01:35] <jason> mcphail: OK. thanks
[01:35] <EdLin> speaking of firefox, is it in Dapper yet?
[01:35] <khalif> I'm serious! Don't get me wrong, I love Apple, very, very user friendly, but working on Macs has got me into the open source thing and now that I'm using Kubuntu I don't know when's the last time I've spent so much time in the console. I LOVE IT!!!!
[01:36] <Kyral> EdLin: yes
[01:36] <djspindle> paul__: /etc/apt/sources.list should help
[01:36] <optish> Kyral, i have installed firefox using mozilla.org binaries and installed it at /opt....which works fine but i would like to make it the default browser
[01:36] <Fridge> I take it thats a no then
[01:36] <Kyral> and please don't harras for a backport ;P
[01:36] <aussie> cheers everyone.. ill be back
[01:36] <mcphail> jason: however, System -> Administration -> Networking might be enough to get it set up
[01:36] <Xappe> optish: you probably could change the symbolic link in /usr/bin to point at firefox 1.5
[01:36] <EdLin> Kyral, it's heading for ubuntu-backports I assume
[01:36] <_jason> ubotu, tell optish about firefox15
[01:37] <optish> Xappe, true but i would still like to keep 1.0.7 (official package)  as well so when it is backported i can rid of /opt/firefox
[01:37] <FlimFlamMan> how can i delete my keyring password (it's ok to lose any stored passwords)?
[01:37] <optish> _jason, right i did use that wiki article to install firefox :)
[01:37] <_jason> optish, if you followed all of the instructiuons, it should be your default
[01:37] <Xappe> optish: sounds like you just have to restoe the link then
[01:37] <optish> i tried http://kb.mozillazine.org/Setting_Your_Default_Browser but it fails
[01:37] <Xappe> *restore
[01:38] <optish> _jason, i'm using xubuntu
[01:38] <USCRyan> *question* how do i unpack a tar.gz file to a specified directory?
[01:38] <optish> i used the debian suggestion
[01:38] <Kyral> USCRyan: move it to the dir and unpack it there
[01:38] <Xappe> USCRyan: the -D <directory> flag iirc
[01:38] <_jason> optish, ah, not familiar with xubuntu.  What command is being run?  firefox command should still point to the new firefox because of the dpkg-divert command
[01:39] <optish> Xappe, right i know...i'm basically trying to keep /usr/bin/firefox to official package but make xfce use /opt/firefox
[01:39] <djspindle> Here's a problem for the techno wizards ... there's a way to get a DVD rom recognised a raw device by kaffiene for playing DVD's (protected ones) ... how do you do it with totem?
[01:39] <bushito> how can i add more sources page to apt-get i forgot command =3
[01:39] <USCRyan> kyral, whats the command to unpack it?
[01:39] <Xappe> optish: ah, ok
[01:39] <Hobbsee> !tell bushito about repos
[01:39] <Kyral> USCRyan: tar -zxvf <file>
[01:39] <frogzoo> bushito: just add to synaptics repositories
[01:39] <USCRyan> thx
[01:39] <optish> i noticed xfce uses sensible-browser so if i export BROWSER=/opt/firefox/firefox then it does work if i launch the command via the shell
[01:39] <Hobbsee> bushito: or sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:40] <_jason> optish, why do you want to keep /usr/bin/firefox pointing to the old one?
[01:40] <Kyral> _jason: Xubuntu is the same as Kubuntu and Ubuntu, just with XFCE default
[01:40] <Kyral> _jason: so it doesn't conflict with the Backport when it happens
[01:40] <Kyral> He wants to keep the upgrade path clean it seems
[01:40] <optish> _jason, call me lazy and since i dont regularly use this box i would like to keep official ubuntu version and when 1.5 is backported i will use that and remove /opt/firefox
[01:40] <_jason> Kyral, then you would just remove the divert before the install, that's probably the easiest way
[01:40] <meriad> what package contains all the of C's standard headers?
[01:41] <Kyral> meriad: build-essential
[01:41] <meriad> how?
[01:41] <_jason> optish, if you run 1.07 after running 1.5 it will mess up your profile settings
[01:41] <Kyral> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:41] <djspindle> meriad : build-essential has all the C headers
[01:41] <_image_> i have a problem with ubuntu recognizing my modem
[01:41] <_image_> what should i do?
[01:42] <djspindle> Or u should be able to install it through synaptic
[01:42] <Fridge> is it possible it integrate SELinux features into Ubuntu ??
[01:42] <optish> _jason, i know that but i am not too worried about that...see if i can figure out how to make it the default browser via /opt then i can also specify the profile as well right?
[01:42] <bimberi> meriad: build-essential depends on (amongst other things) libc6-dev
[01:42] <nowisn> okay I downloaded scanmodem and burnt to disk now what do i do or how do i launch it in kubuntu?
[01:42] <frogzoo> Fridge: which features? gnome? kde? apps? all very doable
[01:42] <_jason> optish, true, I guess that would work
[01:43] <odla> udev doesn't work with usb devices currently eh?
[01:43] <USCRyan> kyral, i think i renamed it to flash.gz somehow?
[01:43] <USCRyan> kyral i used mv <filename> /flash hoping it would move it to a directory named flash
[01:43] <Fridge> 'hey frogzoo how do I talk direct to you
[01:43] <Kyral> that should work
[01:44] <jason> mcphail: Thanks for the help. Before editing that file I went into KWifiManager and was able to see my SSID and connect after making a few router security changes.
[01:44] <USCRyan> kyral, well now its just sitting in the / directory and is named flash.gz
[01:44] <optish> i get this error if i link /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser to /opt/firefox/firefox................run-mozilla.sh: Cannot execute /opt/firefox/x-www-browser-bin.
[01:44] <Fridge> I use gnome and windowmaker but need stronger security features
[01:44] <Kyral> USCRyan: did you make /flash first?
[01:44] <_image_> is there a list of supported modems somewhere?
[01:44] <shinopccasa> oLa!
[01:44] <USCRyan> kyral, im very new to linux =/
[01:44] <shinopccasa> oe cauros..
[01:44] <USCRyan> kyral, no
[01:44] <khalif> I hear alot about hot plugging. What is that?
[01:44] <shinopccasa> ken taza taza esta mierda ?
[01:44] <shinopccasa> :S
[01:44] <shinopccasa> nu cacho na.. aps!
[01:44] <Kyral> USCRyan: use mkdir to make it and try again
[01:44] <USCRyan> kyral, i just wanna install it.....says i need to unpack it first
[01:45] <Kyral> the command is still tar -zxvf <filename>
[01:45] <sambagirl> is ReactOS unix?
[01:45] <nowisn> your new, ha got you bet i can't even log into root
[01:45] <Kyral> nowisn: what...
[01:45] <Kyral> You don't use Root here
[01:45] <Kyral> Sudo
[01:46] <Kyral> sambagirl: I don't think so...I think its based on the NT Kernel....
[01:46] <jason> mcphail: Using the wireless connection now. One last question though. I normally have WPA-PSK enabled.
[01:46] <nowisn> hmm oh i'm very new to linux
[01:46] <Kyral> I dunno
[01:46] <khalif> There really is no root. When youinstall the user aaccount that is created is sorta like root, but not really.
[01:46] <Fridge> it's ok I found it
[01:46] <djspindle> Khalif: hotplugging is a way of recognising removable hardware (flashdrives, digital cameras etc) and having them automatically recognised as they are "plugged"
[01:46] <sambagirl> ohh
[01:46] <jason> Anyone have a second for a wireless question?
[01:46] <Kyral> ubotu tell nowisn about RootSudo
[01:46] <nowisn> ah okay got ya sort of
[01:47] <khalif> Where could I finfd info on how to do that? I'm having trouble with Kubuntu recognizing my pen drives...
[01:47] <optish> sambagirl, i dont think so since it tries to do windows stuff/drivers/etc.... http://www.reactos.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[01:47] <sambagirl> has anyone here tried to build a clone intel OSX machine?
[01:47] <Kyral> khalif: its always running
[01:47] <burnhamd> i thought about trying it
[01:47] <burnhamd> why
[01:47] <odla> why has hotplug been replaced by udev?
[01:48] <Fridge> how do you get Totem to stream, I need seem to be able to initialise
[01:48] <jason> Anyone have a second for a wireless question?
[01:48] <khalif> No, I always get errors when i try to plug them in. I've edited the fstab file and the mtab file and I still get errors. Kubuntu refuses to mount my pen drives....
[01:48] <nowisn> man I'm lost I got scanmodem but how do I run it?
[01:48] <sambagirl> i was reading about it in extreme tech magazine and you can if you can bitrorrent the build floatin
[01:48] <sambagirl> around bittorrent
[01:48] <meriad> how do I build-essentials?
[01:48] <nowisn> all I want is to connect to my isp and I'll be happy
[01:48] <meriad> ahh
[01:48] <Kyral> odla: the functionality that hotplug supplied has been integrated into udev
[01:48] <meriad> there we g
[01:48] <optish> yay...solved my problem...i wish there was a better/proper way but i just did ln -s /opt/firefox/firefox-bin /opt/firefox/x-www-browser-bin
[01:49] <florg> hi, has anybody managed to record sound from the line in GNOME? i tried to use the sound-recorder but it doesn't record anything.
[01:49] <khalif> sudo apt-get build-essentials
[01:49] <bimberi> meriad: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[01:49] <_jason> sambagirl, my firend got it the other day--- he refuses to isntall it until he sees someone else do it lol
[01:49] <lightbright> I playing a downloaded stream that saved to hard drive using firefox! what folder exactly is this in?
[01:49] <bushito> Okey the f*** with this, i updated the apt, i added universe and multiverse, got noew souces list, and guess what happens, E: Package mplayer has no installation candidate
[01:49] <lightbright> TheMuffenMann: ??
[01:49] <bushito> Great!!!, wohooo!
[01:49] <florg> i have to use krec in KDE to get that to work.
[01:49] <khalif> OR sudo aptitude build-essentials
[01:49] <sambagirl> it explains the procedure in the magazine
[01:49] <jason> Anyone have a second for a wireless question?
[01:49] <optish> okay nevermind it doesnt work everywhere *sigh*
[01:50] <sambagirl> i just fail to understand why they choose intel, and not amd? i am so disapointed in them.
[01:50] <odla> !mplayer
[01:50] <ubotu> it has been said that mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[01:50] <_jason> sambagirl, doesn't mac use intel chips now?
[01:50] <florg> jason: a DLink card?
[01:50] <_jason> sambagirl, let's continue in offtopic if you wish
[01:50] <sambagirl> ok
[01:50] <sambagirl> how i get to offtopic?
[01:51] <Kyral> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:51] <khalif> They chose Intel because Intel is a company for the laon haul. AMD is on the last leg of their clone chips. They haven't even begun the process of designing new chip sets.
[01:51] <sambagirl> next you know amiga will use intel. i hope not
[01:51] <djspindle> Khalif: what pen drive is it? sometimes the new ubuntu (breezy) has problems with the ones with 2 partitions (SDA & hb1)
[01:51] <odla> sambagirl: /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:51] <bimberi> lightbright: try browsing within ~/.mozilla
[01:51] <lightbright> bimberi:  ok ty
[01:51] <lexhider> muine doesn't seem to be fetching album cover art, any ideas why?
[01:52] <khalif> Intel on the other hand is poised to break into every other market while still maintaining it's dominace over the PC market. This gives Apple he advantage over other companies when it's time to break into additional markets...
[01:52] <bob832> join #windows
[01:52] <meriad> what are the win32 codec packages in ubuntu called
[01:52] <meriad> i notice they arent w32codecs anymore
[01:53] <khalif> Apple Industrial design and Programming + Intel Inside = Lotsa Dough! :)
[01:53] <_jason> ubotu, tell meriad about w32codecs
[01:53] <abarbaccia> ubotu, tell abarbaccia about w32codecs
[01:53] <lucychili> greets folks, great channel im just lurking and learning
[01:55] <optish> anyone know a good gtk app to manage services on ubuntu that i can use with xfce/xubuntu?
[01:55] <lightbright> how can I play a flash file?
[01:55] <khalif> I lot of Unix users are upset with apple because of the new OS. Apple has taken a very complex, yet secure system and made it palpable for the common man. This isn't to degrade what Unix users are doing all across the world, but the average computer user has no need for packages that let people program in C+ or Python. and they definitely don't want to use the Command Line.
[01:55] <bushito> do i need to change the apt-get list source to change from ubuntu to kubuntu or only i need to get KDE???
[01:56] <Hobbsee> bushito: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:56] <thewayofzen> I have an AMD ATHLON XP 2800+  which kernel should i be using from the repos??   linux-686 ?
[01:56] <jbroome> bushito: nope.  it's available in your current repos
[01:56] <htet> I am on ubuntu 5.10 and I saw that Gcc is installed but can't use it.
[01:56] <bushito> okey thx, so Kubuntu uses same url as ubuntu??
[01:56] <optish> lightbright, do you mean flash plugin?
[01:56] <khalif> Most people are just happy being able to save their photos, download music and watch movies and surf the Net. Until I got into web programming that's all I sis....
[01:56] <khalif> *did
[01:57] <bimberi> bushito: yep, same repositories
[01:57] <TheMuffenMann> khalif..what languages do you deal with?
[01:57] <TheMuffenMann> PHP, PERL?
[01:57] <optish> lightbright, if you do mean a flash plugin for firefox.... this wiki link should help https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-4cfa3d6b0994ebb0a6a965a6f59c2651b511f561
[01:58] <khalif> XHTML, CSS, some Javascript, actionScript(Flash), and I'm now learning PHP and SQL.
[01:58] <TheMuffenMann> cool...PHP with MySQL is good shit
[01:58] <lightbright> optish: I saved a flash music file and want to now play it locally!  any ideas?
[01:59] <khalif> I was also thinking about trying to learn Python or Ruby, but I don't know. I already have my hands full trying to learn AppleScript, PHP and SQL.
[01:59] <htet> I saw that gcc-4.0-base is installed but I am getting 'gcc command not found error"
[01:59] <varsendagger> lightbright, you should be able to play a file on firefox if you install the flash plugin
[01:59] <lightbright> optish: whats the extension for a shockwave flash file?
[01:59] <TheMuffenMann> khalif, before you learn javascript..i would recommend looking into PHP first, its syntax is alot like javascript but is way easier to understand
[01:59] <khalif> .swf
[01:59] <TheMuffenMann> then that will give you the foundation you need for JS
[01:59] <bimberi> htet: that's not all of gcc,  install build-essential
[01:59] <khalif> I feel that.
[02:00] <chris_18888> Hi, I am trying to bind my volume keys properly.  I have set them correctly in Keyboard Shortcuts, but still no luck.  I have multiple soundcards (onboard and pci), so I even made the default sound card in alsa my pci card.  Still no luck, all I see is the nice little animation of me supposedly changing the volume.  Any ideas anyone?
[02:00] <htet> bimberi but I can't search build-essential
[02:00] <khalif> I don't why I'm not picking up Javascript faster though because ActionScript was built off of it.
[02:00] <TheMuffenMann> if you want a good programming intro, check out some C++
[02:00] <khalif> Oh, Charlie Brown Christmas is on!!!!
[02:00] <TheMuffenMann> if you can be l33t in C++, you can write pretty much anything
[02:00] <bimberi> htet: search?
[02:00] <htet> I have trouble searching zsh on 5.10 also
[02:00] <khalif> Ya! Be back in an hour ya'll!
[02:00] <htet> using synaptic package manager
[02:00] <lightbright> varsendagger: ok I need to load it from firefox!  I was hoping a application can run it instead
[02:00] <TheMuffenMann> C++ is actually pretty simple, its just being able to put it to use
[02:01] <optish> lightbright, not sure but maybe you can try loading the file directly in the browser?
[02:01] <thewayofzen> im gonna take a stab at linux-k7
[02:01] <optish> lightbright, nevermind
[02:01] <htet> Bimberi: I try to search them using synaptic to install but not finding one.
[02:01] <TheMuffenMann> or PERL..both are EXCELLENT intros to programming
[02:01] <BlueDevil> TheMuffenMann: what's an abstract class?
[02:01] <varsendagger> light bright, you can try to do a search with synaptic for flash and you might be able to find soemthing
[02:01] <varsendagger> ??? i don't know though
[02:02] <oggah> are you guys have backports activated for the "breezy-security"-deb?
[02:02] <TheMuffenMann> BlueDevel..i havent really gotten into that
[02:02] <bimberi> htet: build-essential should be there, no typos? try just "build"
[02:02] <TheMuffenMann> or i havent really used them
[02:02] <htet> bimberi: even just buil does not give me anything.
[02:02] <BlueDevil> TheMuffenMann: what's a virtual destructor?
[02:02] <bimberi> htet: k, put the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list on a pastebin...
[02:02] <bimberi> !pastebin
[02:02] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[02:03] <TheMuffenMann> a class destructor that's virtual lol
[02:03] <htet> Sorry it give me some but not the build-essential
[02:03] <TheMuffenMann> what's this? 20 questions?
[02:03] <khalif> Hey somebody was talking about a program called Crossover that would let me run Dreamweaver on Linux. Anybody ever heard of it?
[02:03] <BlueDevil> TheMuffenMann: i see you know pretty much every language imaginable :)
[02:03] <lightbright> optish: oki doki young fellow ;)
[02:04] <ulinskie> yup
[02:04] <bimberi> khalif: yep, crossover office
[02:04] <ulinskie> but it runs slow
[02:04] <BlueDevil> TheMuffenMann: i'm curious to what depth
[02:04] <oscar> if Ubuntu has internet access (broadband), does it sync its time with a time source?
[02:04] <TheMuffenMann> no, actually ive only been programming for a few years..
[02:04] <lightbright> bimberi:  how much does crossover cost?
[02:04] <khalif> Crossover Office? What are the stats on it?
[02:04] <TheMuffenMann> i do C++ among other things but i had a hard time learning it for a while
[02:04] <BlueDevil> TheMuffenMann: personally, I don't see a relationship between PHP and SJ
[02:04] <BlueDevil> JS
[02:04] <bimberi> lightbright: never used it, only wine
[02:04] <TheMuffenMann> and im no where near done with it
[02:05] <TheMuffenMann> well i mean the use of functions, etc
[02:05] <BlueDevil> what's a virtual method? :P
[02:05] <khalif> I was thinking about just learning C or maybe C#.....
[02:05] <lightbright> bimberi:  ok but you really need to stop drinking so much of that ;)
[02:05] <TheMuffenMann> a class member method that can override methods written in the base class if its declared virtual
[02:05] <bimberi> lightbright: ha :)
[02:06] <TheMuffenMann> ex. virtual int SetAge(int age);
[02:06] <chris_18888> :'(  Damn keyboard shortcuts
[02:06] <lightbright> bimberi:  I used to drink as a fish, but 8 years ago i stopped :) never drank since :)
[02:06] <oggah> How to remove totem from hoary standardinstall? apt-get remove totem?
[02:06] <lightbright> bimberi:  I got my mind back ;)
[02:06] <BlueDevil> method hiding? :)
[02:06] <optish> where can i set/export a environment variable for all users/systemwide
[02:06] <paul__> i need to install 'pango' how can i search for the package in apt-get ?
[02:06] <bimberi> lightbright: evidently :)
[02:06] <paul__> and if its not there, what other options to i have of installing it other that the source and the 1000s of deps..
[02:06] <BlueDevil> damn, need to sleep. bye
[02:06] <Hobbsee> paul__: apt-cache search programname
[02:07] <lightbright> bimberi:  :)
[02:07] <khalif> sudo rm - totem
[02:07] <gnomefreak> ok im trying to install win2k on hdb but its telling me that there isnt a windows type partion so i deleted the partions and still wont install is there a way to change whats there to ntfs or fat?
[02:07] <htet> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe main restricted multiverse
[02:07] <lightbright> sambagirl: i prefer Salsa ;)
[02:07] <khalif> sorry... sudo rm -r totem
[02:07] <bimberi> htet: is that it?
[02:07] <Hobbsee> paul__: and try enabling the other repos.  See !repos
[02:07] <varsendagger> paul__, what Hobbsee told you is a fantastic tool
[02:07] <htet> there is one more
[02:07] <lightbright> gnomefreak: gparted any good?
[02:07] <joey_> hey, got a q
[02:08] <gnomefreak> havent tried it
[02:08] <joey_> on xubuntu, got no sound in flash
[02:08] <joey_> any ideas?
[02:08] <lightbright> khalif: what does sudo rm -r totem do?
[02:08] <htet> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[02:08] <Kyral> lightbright: NO!!!
[02:08] <htet> That's all
[02:08] <lightbright> gnomefreak: i use it and its great
[02:08] <bushito> Okey Bite me >_>, this thing it is not working!!! i downloaded the freaking MPlayer and cannot get the w32codecs dont know why , but guess what !! it doesnt!!!!!!!!!!!! play any file what the f*ck with this OS >_>!!
[02:08] <khalif> sudo= superuser or root
[02:08] <lightbright> Kyral: no what?
[02:08] <khalif> rm=remove
[02:08] <gnomefreak> lightbright,  how do you run it?
[02:08] <Kyral> sorry
[02:08] <jason> Does Ubuntu support WPA_PSK?
[02:08] <Kyral> I jumped the gun
[02:08] <lightbright> khalif: is that the same as sudo apt-get remove --purge ?
[02:09] <Kyral> I saw "sudo rm -r
[02:09] <joey_> w32 codecs?
[02:09] <lightbright> gnomefreak: apt-get install gparted
[02:09] <gnomefreak> ah install opps
[02:09] <Kyral> and htought sudo rm -rf /
[02:09] <jason> Does Ubuntu support WPA_PSK?
[02:09] <danny-khi> How do I find out if ubuntu supports my hardware?
[02:09] <Hobbsee> !tell bushito about w32codecs
[02:09] <khalif> -r=recursive. Means it removes directory and all files and directories inside.
[02:09] <varsendagger> bushito, did you use apt-get or synaptic to install it?
[02:09] <oggah> how do I clear the cache-thing? (with downloaded packages..)
[02:09] <neighborlee> is NPTL used in ubuntu breezy ?
[02:09] <bushito> apt-get, varsendagger
[02:09] <Hobbsee> Kyral: hehe, sometime i want to do that, just to see exactly what it does...
[02:09] <joey_> bushito?w32 codecs?
[02:09] <ajmitch> Kyral: don't type that in here, please ;)
[02:09] <oggah> danny-khi, try the live-cd.
[02:09] <khalif> totem=name of file or directory your trying to remove
[02:09] <Kyral> yah
[02:09] <bushito> joey_, w32codecs
[02:09] <bimberi> htet: remove the "us.", update and retry
[02:09] <ajmitch> neighborlee: yes
[02:10] <danny-khi> oggah: what is a live cd?
[02:10] <Kyral> NO ONE DO WHAT I SAID!!!
[02:10] <neighborlee> ajmitch, k thx
[02:10] <joey_> okay, you got your repos expanded?
[02:10] <Kyral> IT WILL DELETE YOUR ENTIRE SYSTEM!
[02:10] <Hobbsee> oggah: sudo apt-cache clean
[02:10] <varsendagger> bushito, where did you put your codecs  (i am assuming you tar -xzvf them right)
[02:10] <lightbright> Kyral: are you trying to trick ppl into destroying their system?
[02:10] <ajmitch> neighborlee: at least I know it is on amd64, I can't say for certain that it is on i386
[02:10] <khalif> gnomefreak: do you have to be in the parent directory of a folder /file that your trying to remove or can you do that from ~ ?
[02:10] <jason> Does Ubuntu support WPA_PSK?
[02:10] <ajmitch> Kyral: and it will cause your cats to hate you?
[02:10] <neighborlee> ajmitch, oh ok..I was just wondering as a forum search seemed not to be conclusive
[02:10] <lightbright> Kyral: you will reap that you sow
[02:10] <HrdwrBoB> jason: you can get it working
[02:10] <oggah> Hobbsee, thanks. does this have to be done sometimes not to get harddrive out of space :)
[02:10] <ajmitch> jason: you've asked that at least 3 times now..
[02:10] <oggah> ?
[02:10] <sambagirl> what is offtopic called?
[02:10] <sambagirl> what is name of ubuntu offtopic channel?
[02:10] <HrdwrBoB> jason: 'support' is a bit strong though :)
[02:10] <Kyral> ajmitch: and you computer ;P
[02:10] <bushito> varsendagger, i havent downloaded em, they are supposed to download with apt-get but they dont, >_> and they say this is more easy than debian xP
[02:11] <varsendagger> #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:11] <Hobbsee> now be nice - Kyral misread it by accident - a lot of people misread things
[02:11] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: I am being nice to Kyral :)
[02:11] <sambagirl> thank you
[02:11] <jason> HrdwrBob: I would like to use WPA_PSK since it is more secure but I only see WEP in the networking properties
[02:11] <joey_> okay, you need to expand the repositories. go to the wiki and look for expaning repos section.
[02:11] <Hobbsee> oggah: no, you usually dont have to be.  use df -h -T to check how much hard drive space you have left
[02:11] <Kyral> Hobbsee: ajmitch and I are pals...kinda ;P
[02:11] <HrdwrBoB> jason: wpa is provided by wpa_supplicant
[02:11] <Hobbsee> hehe
[02:11] <joey_> the w32 codecs are in a diff repo.
[02:11] <joey_> holdon a min
[02:11] <lightbright> can you convert flash into mp3 or wave?
[02:11] <gnomefreak> does 2k run fat or ntfs or either?
[02:11] <Hobbsee> !w32codecs
[02:12] <HrdwrBoB> I tried to set it up once, got bored and decided to use a VPN over wireless
[02:12] <htet> bimberi:Ok I will retry now.
[02:12] <varsendagger> bushito, have you gotten gmplayer working with debian?.... anyway   you need to go to mplayers website and download essentials or follow the link joey_  is looking for
[02:12] <varsendagger> gnomefreak, either
[02:12] <gnomefreak> ty
[02:12] <varsendagger> yb
[02:12] <ajmitch> I believe that setting up WPA_PSK would currently require setting up wpasupplicant
[02:13] <factotum> dum de dum de dum... one thing i forgot about after switching os's, putting the backups back on the hard drive...*twiddle thumbs*
[02:13] <oggah> danny-khi, you can run Ubuntu from a Live-CD. It will not install anything on the harddrive. Still, you can see if your hardware works correct.
[02:13] <HrdwrBoB> ajmitch: which is what I just said
[02:13] <htet> bimberi I got error,
[02:13] <joey_> okay, bushito, you there?
[02:13] <htet> synaptic can't access the site
[02:13] <ajmitch> HrdwrBoB: which I missed
[02:13] <jason> HrdwrBoB: So would I see it in the Synaptic list?
[02:14] <bushito> varsendagger, wwuuaa debian already got the codecs!!, OMG mp3 codecs what tha fuck is this crime X_X no mp3 codecs holy shit!!
[02:14] <bimberi> htet: can you pastebin the error, or prefer #flood?
[02:14] <gnomefreak> brb lets see if this works :)
[02:14] <oggah> is Terminal the only console-tool installed by default with Hoary?
[02:14] <factotum> varsendagger: is that with tv in or actualy streaming from somewhere?
[02:14] <factotum> I always wondered about that
[02:14] <oggah> bushito, calm down. "apt-get install xmms" will solve all problems.
[02:14] <bushito> joey_, eehh i hope so almost going to summon my inner me xP * with a bat*
[02:14] <varsendagger> factotum, streaming from somewhere
[02:14] <joey_> add these to your  etc/apt/sources.list:
[02:14] <joey_> you ready?
[02:14] <htet> bimberi: actually ubuntu is on different machine. So I have been retyping all the messages.
[02:14] <bushito> oggah, i am going to hit i already INSTALLED XMMS and guess what??, frozed up >_> no codecs.... great >_>
[02:15] <factotum> varsendagger: cool beans
[02:15] <htet> So can you post your sources.lst and I will try that.
[02:15] <varsendagger> want the .pls?
[02:15] <bimberi> htet: mine is just like http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325
[02:15] <bushito> joey_, okey ready =3
[02:16] <joey_> bushito, add these to your repos: deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main
[02:16] <joey_> #deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main
[02:16] <joey_> #deb ftp://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/blackdown/debian/ sarge non-free
[02:16] <lightbright> can you convert flash into mp3 or wave?
[02:16] <joey_> got it?
[02:16] <varsendagger> anyone who messeges me in the next twenty seconds will get the proven method of watching streaming tv with mplayer
[02:16] <varsendagger> 19... 18  17
[02:16] <joey_> now, do an apt-get update, and search for w32codecs.
[02:16] <factotum> varsendagger: waiting for me to ask how you do it?
[02:17] <varsendagger> whoever
[02:17] <jason> ajmitch: Got it installed. Does it just add functionality to the standard network properties?
[02:17] <factotum> varsendagger: alright, i give up how so?
[02:17] <varsendagger> --- a personal message
[02:17] <lightbright> is there any way to play .wmv files on Ubuntu?
[02:17] <Jinkguns> lightbright, mplayer can do that.
[02:18] <varsendagger> lightbright, i think you can do it with mplayer
[02:18] <joey_> wmv files should play in totem with w32codecs
[02:18] <factotum> ah, so i have to be special haha
[02:18] <lightbright> ah ok ill try mplayer thanks
[02:18] <Jinkguns> Unfortunetly mplayer is faded out on the add application button. :/
[02:18] <misfit_toy> !w32codecs
[02:18] <htet> bimberi: I will give it a try and I will come back later. Thanks for your help.
[02:18] <joey_> yep
[02:19] <abarbaccia> hwo do i associate all movie file types with xine?
[02:19] <varsendagger> factotum, --- sorry, untill i subscribe i can't just tell everybody
[02:19] <jason> OK, I've installed wpasupplicant, how do I access it?
[02:19] <varsendagger> servers get full
[02:19] <factotum> oh, a supscription? bummer
[02:19] <bimberi> htet: np :)
[02:19] <Jinkguns> Is there a tutorial thats explains the horror that is installing ati drivers and enabling direct rendering?
[02:19] <bushito> look at joey_ very wierdly, "someone is going to be hurt really bad"
[02:19] <joey_> what happened? did you get them?
[02:19] <factotum> varsendagger: but totaly understandable
[02:19] <bushito> no =p
[02:19] <varsendagger> --- but you don't nessisarialy have to have the subscriptionto watch
[02:20] <khalif> I think I'm gonna try Vector Linux out for this Pentium II box that I got. Anybody ever tried it out?
[02:20] <joey_> whAAAAAT?
[02:20] <bushito> i know this ubuntu is kinda gay >_>
[02:20] <misfit_toy> khalif, vector linux is pretty nice, bare but nice
[02:20] <joey_> mine works like mad
[02:20] <transgress> hey isn't there a bot reply about firefox 1.5?
[02:20] <bushito> but mine doesnt i am goingto kill someone >_
[02:20] <_jason> transgress, drop the dot
[02:20] <bushito> >_> where is the ubuntu creator
[02:20] <jason> OK, I've installed wpasupplicant, how do I access it?
[02:20] <bushito> we need to talk
[02:20] <transgress> _jason: ?
[02:20] <joey_> you didn't get the codecs?
[02:21] <_jason> ubotu, tell transgress about firefox15
[02:21] <transgress> _jason: thanks
[02:21] <varsendagger> -- i almost did a wiki on it untill i realized if idid that i could'nt ever watch anything
[02:21] <bushito> wuua no!! >_>
[02:21] <jgrieves> wow uboto konws about firefox15!!!
[02:21] <_jason> transgress, works with the dot too, maybe you had the space
[02:21] <jgrieves> that is quite a bot
[02:21] <khalif> I figure since I only have 64MB RAM and lord only knows ow much HDD space I have, i needed something light. Maybe I can still put KDE on it...
[02:21] <RedRose> how do i remove something from bash?
[02:21] <factotum> varsendagger: yeah, that could be a problem heh heh
[02:21] <varsendagger> bushito,  what do you normally run? debian or what
[02:21] <joey_> oh man, you need to comment those repos, they can break your system if you use them all the time.
[02:21] <varsendagger> but i will tell you
[02:21] <misfit_toy> khalif, try "damn small linux", it's great in instances like that
[02:21] <_jason> redguy, like delete a file?
[02:21] <RedRose> i installed something wrong and now when i try to installed version, it won't work
[02:22] <imexius> can someone help me with vncserver or remote desktop
[02:22] <oggah> gnome is really slow. isnt? but highly configurable...
[02:22] <bushito> i was on debian, but i installed Ubuntu cause friends recommended =3
[02:22] <imexius> like how exactly i get get it so people can connect to me
[02:22] <khalif> Give me a sec....
[02:22] <RedRose> imexius:What do you need?
[02:22] <joey_> it's great, sorry you hate it.
[02:22] <varsendagger> bushito, what don't you lie about it?
[02:22] <bushito> cause it was "Friendly" and " easy to use", "and for human beings"
[02:22] <_jason> RedRose, what did you install wrong and how did you install it?
[02:22] <imexius> redrose: it works fine its just i dont know how to use it
[02:22] <bushito> varsendagger, (o_O)??? what??
[02:22] <misfit_toy> bushito, maybe you have bad karma
[02:22] <joey_> did you check the repos i sent you?
[02:23] <varsendagger> *like
[02:23] <gratuit> khalif: kde will be overkill with 64MB ram, try fluxbox, it's a great wm and lightweight
[02:23] <RedRose> hydra, i did make install... then i deleted the file in the /usr/local/bin and now i get an error message about it...
[02:23] <imexius> redrose: like i know how to use vncviewer but i havent figured out how to get people to connect to me who use like realvnc
[02:23] <khalif> fluxbox huh?
[02:23] <RedRose> _jason:hydra, i did make install... then i deleted the file in the /usr/local/bin and now i get an error message about it...
[02:23] <jason> OK, I've installed wpasupplicant, how do I access it?
[02:24] <redondos> hello everyone. I've got a networkless machine that needs some kernel modules to be fixed. I didn't compile this kernel myself, it comes from the ubuntu repositories. Should I be able to just `make && make modules_install && make install' without a problem?
[02:24] <RedRose> _jason and then i resintalled with dpkg and i cannot access it
[02:24] <RedRose> root@redrose:~ # hydra
[02:24] <RedRose> -bash: /usr/local/bin/hydra: No such file or directory
[02:24] <gratuit> khalif: and I had debian running on a 486 w/ 16 MB of ram a while back, though it was pretty slow
[02:24] <joey_> xubuntu anyone?
[02:24] <redondos> joey_: I've used it.
[02:25] <redondos> joey_: I love xfce, but on my ubuntu machine I'm currently using kde, for some reason...
[02:25] <RedRose> _jason:anything?
[02:25] <joey_> okay, i just started with xfce  and i got no sound in flash? any ideas?
[02:25] <_jason> RedRose, I would try removing the dpkg, running make uninstall, and then reinstalling using dpkg
[02:25] <misfit_toy> khalif, try damn small linux http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/
[02:25] <varsendagger> joey_,  i use fubuntu and eubuntu
[02:25] <Jinkguns> Where does that stupid .rpm file go when you install realplayer via add applications and the DebConf window opens up asking for it?
[02:25] <lightbright> redguy: gnome is more stable
[02:25] <joey_> any ideas on why sound only inflash doesn't work in xfce?
[02:25] <lightbright> redondos:  gnome is more stable
[02:26] <lightbright> joey_: why not use gnome?
[02:26] <Cityismine> Hey guys, need help with rar, I type "rar e filename" and it extracts the files. What if the extracted file contains more rar files, is there a command to decompress all at the same time
[02:26] <joey_> i think gnome is heavy and ugly
[02:26] <lightbright> Cityismine: no
[02:26] <redondos> joey_: yes.
[02:26] <ash_> anyone using ion3? ;)
[02:26] <gnomefreak> im not ugly :(
[02:26] <atrophic> imexius, try connecting to 10.0.0.1:0 where the 10.0.0.1 is your actual external ip
[02:26] <joey_> i prefer a mix of gnome and kde, though
[02:26] <lightbright> joey_: is that so? :)
[02:26] <imexius> how do i find my external ip
[02:26] <redondos> joey_: You're probably using the card for something else, as xfce doesn't load up an audio playing engine by default.
[02:27] <khalif> OI got a question for you guys: I got Kubuntu on my Thinkpad and I installed this splash screen called X86 it has apple graphics on it. Anyway, the splash screen shows fine, but theres still a KDE background when the splash screen is playing...
[02:27] <redondos> imexius: easily? www.whatismyip.com
[02:27] <lightbright> joey_: define heavy
[02:27] <gratuit> imexius: ifconfig
[02:27] <joey_> really, i can run amarok no prob
[02:27] <Cityismine> So if the extracted file contains more rar files, I have to extract them separately?
[02:27] <redondos> joey_: I mean, stop amarok. Stop every audio-playing device on the system. Now try with that flash applet :)
[02:27] <khalif> How can I change that KDE background that shows during the splash screen to a solid color?
[02:27] <joey_> heavy as in, heavier than xfce?
[02:27] <lightbright> cyphase: are all thoughts encrypted?
[02:27] <redondos> joey_: Currently, your system can probably play one audio source at a time.
[02:28] <cyphase> lightbright, they don't need to be, seeing as they stay in your head :)
[02:28] <redondos> (in case it's what I think it is)
[02:28] <imexius> ip config doesnt work since i dont have that command
[02:28] <upthecrik> how do I start the desktop from the prompt? ( my system only boots to the prompt)
[02:28] <joey_> yeah, i killed everything, fired up firefox, went to flash site, no sound.
[02:28] <factotum> startx maybe?
[02:28] <_jason> Cityismine, I believe I have extraced all the files using unrar x, I don't know if that option exists in rar
[02:28] <varsendagger> upthecrik, do you have gdm installed?
[02:28] <gnomefreak> i have now run out of ideas
[02:28] <safrican> hey guys -
[02:28] <joey_> yes
[02:28] <safrican> i have a problem. gnome-theme-manager doesn't want to work
[02:28] <redondos> joey_: Can you use amaroK while playing some other audio file with another player?
[02:28] <lightbright> cyphase: :)
[02:28] <safrican> i run it through gdb or i run it
[02:28] <joey_> hold on, i will try
[02:29] <safrican> it just doesn't start up
[02:29] <_jason> !enter
[02:29] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[02:29] <safrican> what could be wrong ?
[02:29] <Jinkguns> Debconf is asking for rp8_linux20_libc6_i386_cs2_rpm after I installed Realplayer using Add Applications, where is the file?
[02:29] <lightbright> cyphase: its a shame some people cant help to sing like a parrot ;)
[02:29] <cyphase> of course, with brain scanning becoming more advanced..
[02:29] <bimberi> .lastlog gnomefreak
[02:29] <redondos> bimberi: with a slash
[02:29] <cyphase> :)
[02:29] <RedRose> _jason:make uninstall isn't an option
[02:29] <cyphase> thoughts will have to be encrypted soon
[02:29] <gnomefreak> bimberi, what do you mean?
[02:29] <bimberi> lastlog gnomefreak
[02:29] <varsendagger> if you do just login and type gdm, otherwise startx /usr/bin/<windowmanager>
[02:29] <DaaJeH> Why when I read a non english text(fonts) in a web, there are squares between the fonts?
[02:29] <gratuit> upthecrik: you can try startx, use ~/.xsession to control which wm you use that way
[02:29] <upthecrik> I do not know,
[02:29] <redondos> bimberi: with a freaking slash! :D
[02:29] <bimberi> gnomefreak: i was trying to see what your issue was :)
[02:30] <khalif> Also does anyone have any clue how to package icons to be installed in an icon manager?
[02:30] <Toran> Anyone have some suggestions a simple photo editing app that doesn't have the learning curve of the GIMP? I'm looking for something that my mom/dad or grandparents could use.
[02:30] <joey_> no, i got amarok running, no sound anywhere.
[02:30] <bimberi> and doing a botched job of it - despite redondos' expert assistance :P
[02:30] <gnomefreak> oh its a win2k issue
[02:30] <joey_> except amarok
[02:30] <upthecrik> so at the prompt type sartx?
[02:30] <redondos> joey_: That's what I thought.
[02:30] <upthecrik> startx
[02:30] <redondos> bimberi: haha :)
[02:30] <Toran> upthecrik: startx
[02:30] <cyphase> MyMind: The First Thought Encryption Program
[02:30] <cyphase> and it's open source!
[02:30] <cyphase> :)
[02:30] <joey_> i closed amarok, still no flash sound.
[02:30] <upthecrik> how do I make it boot to the desktop everytime?
[02:31] <redondos> joey_: oh well, if that happens then I don't know, sorry. not really using flash
[02:31] <joey_> and, i can watch movies with sound.
[02:31] <ClayG> anyone know a fix for forgetting your password to a wireless router?
[02:31] <_jason> RedRose, not sure how to remove the files installed with make install then, maybe someone with more experience than me can help you out
[02:31] <joey_> okay
[02:31] <varsendagger> upthecrik, is it working
[02:31] <Toran> joey_: I've had flash sound problems when I opened two windows that tried to play sound with flash.
[02:31] <joey_> thanks!
[02:31] <Toran> joey_: the solution is to close firefox and then start it again
[02:31] <ash_> ClayG: reset your router?
[02:31] <Toran> and make sure you don't open two sites at once that play flash sound
[02:31] <joey_> okay, hold on.
[02:31] <upthecrik> I have to reboot I am running on the live cd
[02:31] <lightbright> ClayG: how can you forget your password?  its stored in your brain
[02:31] <_jason> RedRose, in the future though, use checkinstall instead of make install-- it wil create a package for what you install
[02:31] <Toran> Anyone have some suggestions a simple photo editing app that doesn't have the learning curve of the GIMP? I'm looking for something that my mom/dad or grandparents could use.
[02:31] <ClayG> oh this isn't my brain password
[02:32] <ClayG> this is one of the other few hundred i've set in my life, this was set once and then I moved and didnt need wireless so i used my other router
[02:32] <factotum> you have no sound... on the live cd...   *sigh*
[02:32] <lightbright> ClayG: the brain never forgets anything
[02:32] <ClayG> hahhaha
[02:32] <ClayG> ok
[02:32] <lightbright> since you were born
[02:32] <lightbright> ClayG: command your subcincious mind to reveal your password and it will
[02:32] <transgress> anyone using mac osx and firefox?
[02:32] <sambagirl> i keep seeing this fubar thing, what is a fubar? anyone know what or who fubar is?
[02:33] <Erron> how can a non-root user use icmp socket functions
[02:33] <RedRose> is there a file that BASH stores with the program names?
[02:33] <transgress> nm
[02:33] <gnomefreak> fubar=fucked up beyond all recognition
[02:33] <bimberi> sambagirl: ****ed up beyond all recognition
[02:33] <lightbright> ClayG: your password is stored perfectly in your brain!  But if you tell it you cant remember it, it will "hide" it
[02:33] <factotum> transgress: yeah, at work
[02:33] <joey_> nope, nothing still.
[02:33] <sambagirl> ohh
[02:33] <bimberi> sambagirl: like my recent attempts to /lastlog
[02:33] <lightbright> gnomefreak: get some soap please
[02:33] <diana> how can I run "bum"...what would be the commmand...as root or regular user.
[02:33] <gnomefreak> lol lightbright
[02:34] <varsendagger> diana, what is bum?
[02:34] <imex> redrose sorry about that lost connection
[02:34] <lightbright> gnomefreak: :)
[02:34] <ClayG> Darn, i wish you would have told me that before i told my brain i couldnt remember it
[02:34] <RedRose> no prob
[02:34] <bimberi> !bum
[02:34] <ubotu> bum is probably a graphical BootUp Manager; see http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html
[02:34] <joey_> anyone else on xubuntu?
[02:34] <phoul> hey
[02:34] <diana> varsendagger: apt-get -y install bum; man bum;
[02:34] <RedRose> is there a file that BASH stores with the program names?
[02:34] <phoul> Is there a program out there i can use to access my lyra mp3 player and like addmusic and remove music?
[02:34] <ash_> heh... anyone in aus will get a laugh out of 'root bum'...
[02:35] <lightbright> ClayG: well go and sit in a silent room and command your sub-conscious mind to reveal your password and then wait silently for the answer
[02:35] <joey_> lol root bum...
[02:35] <diana> RedRose: type "echo $PATH" in a terminal
[02:35] <ulinskie> what do u see is the advantages of kubuntu, xubuntu from ubuntu?
[02:35] <Biscuitian_Warhe> *Crossing Fingers that Guild Wars will load....
[02:35] <diana> RedRose: anything in the path will be ran(if it can)
[02:35] <ClayG> lol I almost wish there was a man for it, that way you would have just said man router
[02:36] <ClayG> but thanks for the suggestion
[02:36] <lightbright> ClayG: :)
[02:36] <RedRose> how do i update the path?
[02:36] <transgress> anyone know how to set firefox as the default browser in os x?
[02:36] <rambo3> afterstepuntu , fluxboxuntu
[02:36] <joey_> i like xfce
[02:36] <transgress> oh wait wrong channel
[02:36] <joey_> that is all
[02:36] <steeltrap> I am getting the following error using a amd64 server and a i386 client
[02:36] <kbrooks> ulinskie, apart from all 3 using kde, xfce, and gnome (respectively)
[02:36] <phoul> anyone?
[02:36] <kbrooks> they are pretty much the same
[02:36] <steeltrap> Your CPU does not support long mode
[02:37] <lightbright> ulinskie: there is no advantage!  in fact some would say disadvantage as gnome is more stable
[02:37] <JulienH> Hi guys
[02:37] <RedRose> how do i update the path?
[02:37] <JulienH> What is the main MTA used by Ubuntu ?
[02:37] <jason> I just installed wpasupplicant but am not sure what to do next.
[02:37] <steeltrap> Hello
[02:37] <paul__> RedRose, with export
[02:37] <Rex> noob question: I need to change the owner of a directory full of files (and more directories). I tried chgrp -R group foldername but that didn't work.
[02:37] <jason> Need to enable WPA_PSK....
[02:37] <varsendagger> what is a MTA?
[02:37] <MrFarts> does anyone know why ubuntu doesn't use syslog-ng ?
[02:37] <JulienH> MTA => Mail Transfer Agent
[02:37] <lightbright> Rex: try this
[02:37] <paul__> chown -R username:group dirname
[02:38] <Rex> okay
[02:38] <diana> how can I run "bum"...what would be the commmand...as root or regular user.
[02:38] <steeltrap> Can anyone help me?
[02:38] <MrFarts> steeltrap, maybe
[02:38] <paul__> ask your question
[02:38] <lightbright> Rex: sudo chown -R username:username /home/dirname
[02:38] <joey_> steeltrap: wussup?
[02:38] <Rex> yup
[02:38] <lightbright> Rex: let me know if that works ok
[02:38] <Rex> I shall
[02:38] <steeltrap> I have a amd64 server and my clients fail
[02:38] <Rex> just a moment
[02:38] <varsendagger> hey taht bum is a good deal
[02:38] <phoul> Anyone?
[02:38] <lightbright> Rex: ok
[02:39] <phoul> Anyone know how to add and remove stuff from my lyra mp3 player on nix?
[02:39] <joey_> yeah?
[02:39] <MrFarts> steeltrap, clients fail ?
[02:39] <steeltrap> I think I know the problem
[02:39] <diana> phoul: apt-get remove lyra
[02:39] <joey_> huh?
[02:39] <jason> I just installed wpasupplicant but am not sure what to do next.
[02:39] <phoul> apt-get remove lyra?
[02:39] <jason> Need to enable WPA_PSK....
[02:39] <lightbright> MrFarts: grow up and change your nick please
[02:39] <gnomefreak> ill work on it tomorrow i guess :(
[02:39] <RedRose> ok, because when i type hydra, it i get
[02:39] <RedRose> root@redrose:/usr/share/doc # hydra
[02:39] <RedRose> -bash: /usr/local/bin/hydra: No such file or directory
[02:39] <steeltrap> there is no i386 in the /opt/ltsp directory
[02:39] <MrFarts> lightbright, what's your problem ?
[02:39] <kasta> l
[02:39] <phoul> diana, why remove
[02:39] <Rex> lightbright, paul__: That worked. Thanks.
[02:40] <lightbright> MrFarts: your childish name
[02:40] <lightbright> Rex: cool
[02:40] <_jason> RedRose, is there a binary that you know will run?
[02:40] <lightbright> Rex: :)
[02:40] <MrFarts> lightbright, maybe you should change your childish attitude
[02:40] <Toran> Anyone have some suggestions a simple photo editing app that doesn't have the learning curve of the GIMP? I'm looking for something that my mom/dad or grandparents could use.
[02:40] <joey_> nice name
[02:40] <lightbright> MrFarts: grow up please
[02:40] <Rex> Toran: GimpSHOP?
[02:40] <MrFarts> lightbright, look in the mirror, asswipe
[02:40] <steeltrap> there is no i386 in the /opt/ltsp directory
[02:40] <lightbright> MrFarts: are you - 10?
[02:40] <Toran> I'm looking for something simpler than photoshop
[02:41] <Kyral> Paint?
[02:41] <rambo3> ms paint roxs
[02:41] <Toran> Hehe, not that simple
[02:41] <_jason> Toran, gimp
[02:41] <Toran> And that's MS anyway
[02:41] <joey_> paint!
[02:41] <Kyral> XPaint :P
[02:41] <MrFarts> Toran, there's some paint program for kde ...
[02:41] <MrFarts> Toran, forget what it's called
[02:41] <steeltrap> is there a chat room more specific to ltsp
[02:41] <jbroome> probably named: kpaint. :)
[02:41] <MrFarts> jbroome, i'm sure it has lots of ks in it :)
[02:41] <joey_> did you fingd the answer?
[02:42] <phoul> Gad dammit will anyone help me?
[02:42] <jason> I just installed wpasupplicant but am not sure what to do next.
[02:42] <jason> Need to enable WPA_PSK....
[02:42] <joey_> what was the q?
[02:42] <MrFarts> phoul, what's your problem ?
[02:42] <_jason> phoul, if people know how to help you they will... no one is ignoring you.  We just don't know how to help you
[02:42] <phoul> how can i write to my lyra mp3 player
[02:42] <steeltrap> Does anyone here know ltsp
[02:42] <phoul> i asked it a lot of times
[02:42] <joey_> sorry man, lots of asking going on.
[02:42] <phoul> umm okay
[02:42] <jbroome> phoul: does it show up on the desktop when you hook it up?
[02:42] <MrFarts> phoul, i guess no one knows
[02:43] <joey_> what have you tried
[02:43] <phoul> jbroome, yes it does
[02:43] <phoul> But if i remove files from it
[02:43] <phoul> It seems to work but when i unplug it they are still there
[02:43] <rambo3> it moves them into its trash can?
[02:43] <phoul> its trashcan?
[02:43] <bimberi> phoul: empty the trash
[02:44] <phoul> whats trash...
[02:44] <phoul> My mp3player?
[02:44] <MrFarts> does anyone know why ubuntu doesn't use syslog-ng by default ?
[02:44] <MrFarts> are there some issues with it that i am not aware of ?
[02:44] <joey_> no
[02:44] <bimberi> phoul: the one on your desktop
[02:44] <jbroome> phoul: bottom right of your screen
[02:44] <phoul> Gah!
[02:44] <jbroome> looks like a trash can
[02:44] <phoul> lol thats not it
[02:44] <factotum> after youve copied the files, drag from the player to the trash
[02:44] <lightbright> phoul: type this: sudo rm -rf ~/.Trash/*
[02:44] <joey_> lol
[02:44] <phoul> Lol
[02:45] <phoul> You guys thats not it
[02:45] <phoul> I remove it from the mp3player right
[02:45] <phoul> Then i un connect the mp3 plays
[02:45] <phoul> player*
[02:45] <factotum> and they are still on the player?
[02:45] <joey_> okay
[02:45] <htet> bimberi: I copied my source.lst with yours and it works fine now. Thanks.
[02:45] <phoul> Yes
[02:45] <paul__> has anyone here sucessfully install gftp that supports tls/ssl ftp ?
[02:45] <phoul> Then when i hook it back up
[02:45] <bimberi> htet: great! :)
[02:45] <phoul> It says they are not
[02:45] <factotum> my digicam is the same way, i just delete them on the cam
[02:45] <rambo3> yes
[02:45] <joey_> not what?
[02:45] <phoul> when i hook the mp3 player up to the computor
[02:46] <phoul> It says the files are not there
[02:46] <phoul> but they are on the mp3player
[02:46] <joey_> ah, i see
[02:46] <rambo3> gftp on port 22
[02:46] <joey_> what are you using now?
[02:46] <phoul> what do you mean?
[02:46] <bimberi> phoul: is there a folder called .Trash.phoul (or something)
[02:46] <phoul> For writing to the mp3 player?
[02:46] <joey_> on the comp
[02:46] <gnomefreak> graveman is nice i didnt even know i had it :)
[02:46] <joey_> what media player?
[02:46] <phoul> im not using a media player
[02:47] <phoul> Im just clicking on the symbol on the desktop
[02:47] <phoul> I also tried amorok
[02:47] <joey_> okay, what are you accessing the player with?
[02:47] <joey_> okay.
[02:47] <factotum> probably the icon on his desktop
[02:47] <joey_> you tried amarok?
[02:47] <phoul> yeah
[02:47] <phoul> It does the same thing
[02:47] <sambagirl> ok so i just reading that the AmigaOne was originally shipped wiht Desbian PPC version since Amiga4OS was not yet complete. So ubuntu PPC should work with AmigaOne, no?
[02:47] <joey_> okay, gstreamer?
[02:47] <phoul> says the files dont exist when they do
[02:47] <phoul> Havnt tried that
[02:47] <joey_> give it a go, see what it does.
[02:48] <paul__> can someone please tell  me how i could add this repo http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ and install gftp from there? ;/
[02:48] <paul__> please
[02:48] <factotum> *cough* is lame installed? *cough*
[02:48] <jgrieves> command to restart GDM/X?
[02:48] <frogzoo> jgrieves: /etc/init.d/gdm restart    ?
[02:48] <bimberi> jgrieves: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[02:48] <joey_> paul, sudo gedit etc/apt/sources.list
[02:48] <jgrieves> thanks
[02:48] <phoul> ymm joey
[02:49] <phoul> Uhh
[02:49] <lightbright> phoul: did you empty the trashcan?
[02:49] <joey_> yeah?
[02:49] <phoul> Its not on my computor it says not file gstreamer exists then when i go to synaptic
[02:49] <phoul> Its not even in there
[02:49] <frogzoo> paul__: start synaptic -> repos -> add
[02:49] <phoul> lb yes
[02:49] <bimberi> paul__: the line to add is "deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ breezy-seveas all"
[02:50] <joey_> okay, you looked for it in synaptic?
[02:50] <phoul> Yeah thertes just tons of plugins
[02:50] <joey_> hold up.
[02:50] <paul__> bimberi, where abouts do i add that?
[02:51] <paul__> /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[02:51] <BigIsle> there was some kind of issue and several of the software elements that relate to application switching, the 4 desktop quick switcher (by the trash), and the "show desktop" button all went away and won't come back. When they went away the wrong option was clicked...something about "not load".  Now I do not know how to switch between multiple simultaneous applications using the gui.
[02:51] <bimberi> paul__: yep
[02:51] <lightbright> phoul: emptying your trashcan will fix that
[02:52] <atrophic> BigIsle, control alt left/right should still work. Also, have you tried right clicking on the panel and adding the desktop switcher/show desktop buttons?
[02:52] <joey_> okay, phoul, try rhythmbox
[02:52] <phoul> lightbright, i *already* tried that dude
[02:52] <lightbright> phoul: ok
[02:52] <joey_> trahcan lol
[02:52] <lightbright> phoul: *no worries*
[02:52] <phoul> joey same stupid annoying problem
[02:52] <will_> hello, i am trying to install java, without any success. I have gone to the java.com site, and i have also searched on ubuntu.com, but I've not been able to have any success. any pointers? thank you...
[02:53] <phoul> :(
[02:53] <pridkett> anyone know why it is that my computer under ubuntu seems to generate 2-3 times as many context switches?
[02:53] <paul__> bimberi, that line just errors for me, comes up with "http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/Release: Unable to find expected entry  all/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?"
[02:53] <joey_> um, i don't know?
[02:53] <mebaran151> I just bought an iPod Video
[02:53] <joey_> is it usb?
[02:53] <mebaran151> but I want to use it with Linux
[02:53] <phoul> yeah
[02:53] <mebaran151> I dll'ed gtkpod
[02:53] <mebaran151> and it complains I don't have an iTunesDB yet
[02:53] <mebaran151> I know this
[02:53] <joey_> um, it is showing it mounted?
[02:53] <lightbright> phoul: have you tried emptying your trashcan?
[02:53] <mebaran151> how do I create one to pacify
[02:53] <mebaran151> joey_, yeah
[02:53] <nowisn> can someone lead me on how to run scanmodem in kubuntu?
[02:53] <mebaran151> I mounted it with pmount
[02:53] <mebaran151> myself
[02:54] <phoul> lightbright, shut up with that already god dammit
[02:54] <mebaran151> it is sde2
[02:54] <mebaran151> I can see all its files
[02:54] <misfit_toy> ubotu tell will_,  about java
[02:54] <paul__> bimberi, any ideas? ;/
[02:54] <lightbright> phoul: just trying to help
[02:54] <mebaran151> and even manually sync my contacts
[02:54] <joey_> trashcan....
[02:54] <phoul> lightbright, i said it 3 times i did
[02:54] <frank23> !tell will about java
[02:54] <lightbright> phoul: please dont take the Lord's name in vain
[02:54] <Trashcan> what
[02:54] <Trashcan> oh
[02:54] <lightbright> phoul: ok ok
[02:54] <mebaran151> so what might I do?
[02:54] <misfit_toy> ubotu tell will_, about java
[02:54] <joey_> i'm about to cry laughing here.
[02:54] <rambo3> lightbright , yes 100 % trashcan . had the same problem
[02:54] <lightbright> Trashcan: lol ;)
[02:55] <bimberi> paul__: ah, looks like it's all i386 :/
[02:55] <lightbright> joey_: :)
[02:55] <lightbright> rambo3: yeah
[02:55] <paul__> dammit
[02:55] <lightbright> rambo3: tell that to phoul
[02:55] <phoul> Maybe it jsut dont work with linux
[02:55] <phoul> :(
[02:55] <paul__> all i want is a gui based ftp client that supports tls/ssl
[02:55] <will_> misfit_toy it doesn't seem to be working, let me relog on as an easier name
[02:55] <joey_> no, i think it will
[02:55] <paul__> but stuffed if i can get one to work
[02:55] <joey_> somethings up
[02:55] <phoul> lightbright, he can go a head and tell me i already TRIED
[02:55] <lightbright> joey_: im glad you found it amusing ;)
[02:55] <joey_> shit was a riot
[02:56] <misfit_toy> !java
[02:56] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[02:56] <lightbright> phoul: ok but have you tried right clicking and empty your trashcan?
[02:56] <greatjones> misfor_toy, i am back
[02:56] <greatjones> misfit_toy, it is will i am back
[02:56] <joey_> i never thought i would get my webcam working, but one day, it just did!
[02:56] <phoul> lightbright, stop
[02:56] <ajmitch> lightbright: stop asking that :)
[02:56] <misfit_toy> greatjones, To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[02:57] <bimberi> lightbright: you are _so_ persistent :)
[02:57] <greatjones> thank you misfit_toy
[02:57] <misfit_toy> np
[02:57] <mebaran151> anybody have any ideas
[02:57] <mebaran151> ?
[02:57] <greatjones> misfot_toy what is !javadebs?
[02:58] <lightbright> bimberi:  ;)  thanks
[02:58] <ryanpg> hi all... I have a bunch of files in /etc/ that end in .pkg-new any ideas what that denotes?
[02:58] <greatjones> misfit_toy what is !javadebs
[02:58] <lightbright> ajmitch: ok I will
[02:58] <ajmitch> lightbright: thanks
[02:58] <varsendagger> lightbright, being persistent is a good trait to have, but i think phoul has coverd that they have allready tried that
[02:58] <lightbright> ajmitch: np :)
[02:58] <lightbright> varsendagger: ok
[02:58] <varsendagger> yb
[02:58] <lightbright> varsendagger:  was wanting him to use the command I gave though, but its ok
[02:58] <joey_> you got it yet?
[02:59] <ryanpg> actually they're in /etc/udev/ /etc/init.d/ and /etc/cron.daily/
[02:59] <misfit_toy> ubotu tell greatjones about !javadebs
[02:59] <misfit_toy> !javadebs
[02:59] <ubotu> from memory, javadebs is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[02:59] <nowisn> can someone lead me on how to run scanmodem in kubuntu?
[03:00] <misfit_toy> ubotu tell greatjones about javadebs
[03:00] <rambo3> joey_ -> trash can is your USB device folder and not on desktop . jsut so you know . change to show hidden files
[03:00] <phoul> gad dammit
[03:00] <phoul> Its late
[03:00] <phoul> I gtg to bed
[03:03] <fr500> hello
[03:03] <fr500> does anyone use gnome-phone-manager here?
[03:03] <kbrooks> anyone?
[03:03] <kbrooks> meh.
[03:03] <kbrooks> ANYONE?
[03:04] <MrFarts> kbrooks, eh
[03:04] <kbrooks> did i hear you properly?
[03:04] <kbrooks> shout in my ear please
[03:04] <kbrooks> j/k :P
[03:04] <ajmitch> kbrooks: I don't think anyone is around
[03:04] <kbrooks> fr500, i dont
[03:05] <jgrieves> ?
[03:05] <jgrieves> don't use phone-manager
[03:05] <fr500> jgrieves, why?
[03:05] <jgrieves> ohsorry
[03:05] <jgrieves> I don't use phone-manager :)
[03:06] <MrFarts> what gnome really needs is a decent chess board :)
[03:06] <fr500> ok
[03:06] <rambo3> xboard with crafty
[03:06] <jgrieves> MrFarts i've seen a few good chess apps in repositories, none come to mind specifically
[03:06] <MrFarts> jgrieves, chessboard for internet chess
[03:06] <MrFarts> they all suck
[03:07] <MrFarts> rambo3, xboard is written in Athena
[03:07] <jgrieves> MrFarts i know one of hte goals of 2.14 is get more internet games
[03:07] <rambo3> crafty sucks ?
[03:07] <MrFarts> rambo3, it's about 20 years old :)
[03:07] <jgrieves> MrFarts dunno if ches sis one
[03:07] <oggah> How do I fastswich between virtual desktops in GNOME?
[03:07] <MrFarts> jgrieves, i would be happy with xboard ported to gtk2 :)
[03:07] <oggah> keyboardcommand?
[03:07] <_jason> oggah, you can setup a shortcut
[03:07] <jgrieves> MrFarts HEH
[03:08] <jgrieves> heh
[03:08] <bimberi> oggah: set up some shortcuts via System -> Prefs -> Keyboard Shorcuts (at the bottom)
[03:08] <rambo3> you switch with 3ddesktop . 100 % CPU power
[03:08] <jgrieves> oggah ctrl + alt + arrows
[03:08] <jgrieves> left/right
[03:08] <dksite> anyone know how to show an image using JavaScript and not html
[03:09] <oggah> jgrieves, thanks mate.
[03:09] <oggah> works fine.
[03:09] <jgrieves> oggah gotta love it :)
[03:09] <oggah> oh yes :)
[03:09] <Falstius> I'm trying to burn data to DVD and "CD/DVD creator" complains that I need to put in a blank disk.  It works with CDs (and it is a DVD burner).  Any suggestions, is there a better program to use?
[03:10] <_jason> oggah, personally I use ctrl+alt+z for left and x for right... one handed is faster :D
[03:10] <MrFarts> Falstius, do you have a blank disc inserted ? :)
[03:10] <oggah> _jason, k =)
[03:11] <Falstius> MrFarts, tried both a DVD+R and a DVD-R, brand new packages.
[03:11] <MrFarts> Falstius, i've never tried burning a DVD with it, but no problems with CDs
[03:11] <navarone> How do you add icon for mounted drive onto desktop? I seem to have lost one icon after playing with xfce. Hmmm...one icon disappeared and one remained. Volume is mounted but how do I add icon again?
[03:11] <oggah> Think im about to like GNOME.
[03:11] <MrFarts> Falstius, maybe the media type is unsupported by the writer ?
[03:11] <oggah> but still, its not very snappy, responsive. others WM are.
[03:12] <Falstius> MrFarts: eh, I suspect a software problem is more likely.
[03:12] <MrFarts> oggah, gnome is not a windoe manager
[03:12] <MrFarts> Falstius, you can try using something like cdrecord directory provided it supports dvd
[03:12] <oggah> its not? what is gnome then
[03:12] <MrFarts> Falstius, directly
[03:12] <_jason> oggah, desktop environment
[03:12] <MrFarts> oggah, it's a lot of things
[03:13] <_jason> oggah, the WM is metacity
[03:13] <MrFarts> oggah, but it's not a window manager :)
[03:13] <oggah> oh.
[03:13] <Falstius> after first making it into an ISO ... I could but it seems primitive.
[03:13] <oggah> xfce4 also a enviroment?
[03:13] <MrFarts> oggah, probably
[03:13] <MrFarts> oggah, a window manager doesn't do all that much
[03:14] <OhNo> Why is it that when I am running on the live cd I can not access the files on my harddrive? (I need to copy of files so I can reinstall)
[03:14] <rambo3> fluxbox is very good
[03:14] <MrFarts> OhNo, probably because your hard drive isn't mounted
[03:14] <Falstius> cdrecord says, "this version of cdrecord doesn't not support DVD ..."
[03:15] <OhNo> how do I mount it?
[03:15] <OhNo> how do I mount it?
[03:15] <BigIsleVegan> damn, i asked a question then couldn't get back to xchat to see the answer because of the problem I asked about :-o
[03:15] <MrFarts> OhNo, mount DEVICE mountpoint
[03:15] <rambo3> was it about trashcan?
[03:16] <MrFarts> OhNo, er sudo mount i guess since it's ubuntu :)
[03:16] <Trashcan> shh
[03:16] <oggah> well ok. I am seriously starting to like Ubuntu now. Have been playing around for a while now..
[03:16] <oggah> Still XP is my main OS.
[03:16] <BigIsleVegan> yes, trashcan was part of my question
[03:16] <Trashcan> shhhhhhhhhhh
[03:16] <MrFarts> Falstius, check freshmeat
[03:16] <BigIsleVegan> my application switcher (bottom of screen) is gone
[03:16] <fr500> and gnome-obex-server? does someone use it?
[03:16] <BigIsleVegan> as well as the 4 virtual desktop switcher
[03:17] <OhNo> what is a mount point and what would be the proper way to enter this?
[03:17] <cdubya> Falstius, did you try something like k3b?
[03:17] <MrFarts> OhNo, oh dear :)
[03:17] <Razor-X> how do compiled packages fare after a Breezy upgrade?
[03:17] <bimberi> BigIsleVegan: right click on the panel and add them
[03:17] <_jason> BigIsleVegan, right click on the panel -> add to panel
[03:17] <Falstius> cdubya: not yet.  I looked into k3b two years ago and it seems like a lot of hassle.  Is it better now?
[03:17] <MrFarts> OhNo, a mount point is the root directory of your filesystme
[03:17] <BigIsleVegan> ok
[03:17] <BigIsleVegan> bimeri and _jason, I'll try
[03:17] <JRlinux> I want to play mp3 files... and eventually use Audacity to edit/encode mp3.  What do I need to do?
[03:18] <bimberi> ubotu tell JRlinux about mp3
[03:18] <OhNo> ok
[03:18] <mebaran151> could anyone help me with my shiny new iPod
[03:18] <mebaran151> I am using gtkpod
[03:18] <diana> how can I run "bum"...what would be the commmand...as root or regular user.
[03:18] <mebaran151> but it refuses to make an iTunesDB
[03:18] <cdubya> Falstius, I don't burn DVDs, because all I have is a burner, but I never ran into any issues burning CDs in k3b.
[03:18] <mebaran151> I set the mount point to /dev/sde2
[03:19] <mebaran151> like it is mounted on my filesystem
[03:19] <mebaran151> but still no luck
[03:19] <MrFarts> mebaran151, that's not a mount point
[03:19] <MrFarts> mebaran151, that's a device name
[03:19] <mebaran151> I mean /media/sde2
[03:19] <mebaran151> sorry
[03:19] <cdubya> diana, sudo bum
[03:19] <JRlinux> bimberi, thanks
[03:19] <bushito> eehh i got another HDD and it is not mounted how can i mount other HDD??
[03:19] <MrFarts> mebaran151, i wouldn't use that mountpoint anyway, but it's up to you :)
[03:19] <OhNo> so what would I type?
[03:20] <oggah> which is the fastet way to shutdown ubuntu? (with command in terminal)
[03:20] <mebaran151> MrFarts, it's a pmount mount mount point
[03:20] <Kyral> oggah: sudo shutdown -h now
[03:20] <oggah> fastest
[03:20] <MrFarts> mebaran151, ugly
[03:20] <diana> cdubya: Type thaat as root or regular user?
[03:20] <mebaran151> made automagically when I run pmount
[03:20] <bimberi> JRlinux: np :)
[03:20] <MrFarts> OhNo, what's the device name of the filesystem you want to mount ? :)
[03:20] <mebaran151> MrFarts, it's from Project Utopia
[03:20] <oggah> thx.
[03:20] <BigIsleVegan> I now have a "Create Launcher" dialog box
[03:20] <MrFarts> mebaran151, hideous mount point name :)
[03:20] <OhNo> /dev/hda1
[03:21] <MrFarts> OhNo, where do you want to mount it ?
[03:21] <bimberi> diana: regular user
[03:21] <greatjones> oh i give up, why doesn't java install easily? sudo shutdown -h now boot windowsxp
[03:21] <BigIsleVegan> when I dragged "application launcher" to the taskbar
[03:21] <Razor-X> mebaran151: how about you, can you tell me how compiled packages fare after a Breezy upgarde?
[03:21] <diana> bimberi: What password do I putt in...rooot's or thee regular users?
[03:21] <Kyral> greatjones: Because its proprietaryu
[03:21] <Kyral> we don't believe in that
[03:21] <OhNo> I don't know I just need to copy off my sermons and pictures
[03:21] <cdubya> diana, yours
[03:21] <mebaran151> Razor-X, I don't know
[03:21] <greatjones> kyral, should i just give up? i guess i dont need it for anything besides playing yahoo ches...
[03:21] <MrFarts> OhNo, well pick a place to mount it
[03:21] <mebaran151> I always do a clean install
[03:22] <Razor-X> mebaran151: gah
[03:22] <mebaran151> and just reapt-get everything
[03:22] <Kyral> !Java
[03:22] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[03:22] <diana> diana is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[03:22] <mebaran151> my home dir is kept pristine
[03:22] <mebaran151> and all the gunk gets cleaned
[03:22] <diana> cdubya: How do I fix that?
[03:22] <Kyral> ubotu tell greatjones about Java
[03:22] <MrFarts> OhNo, mount /dev/hda1 WHEREEVERYOUWANTTOMOUNTIT
[03:22] <bimberi> diana: regular user
[03:22] <Razor-X> mebaran151: I have the potential of losing MPlayer, ndiswrapper, TwiBright links, centericq, zsnes, nbsmtp, flwriter, and others
[03:22] <Kyral> greatjones: see what Ubotu just told you
[03:22] <diana> bimberi: How do I fix that?
[03:22] <MrFarts> diana, bad girl
[03:22] <mebaran151> oh they probably won't die
[03:22] <mebaran151> did you back up their debs?
[03:22] <MrFarts> diana, add diana to the /etc/sudoers file
[03:22] <OhNo> hmm ok so you just makeup a name?
[03:23] <MrFarts> diana, actually add diana to the admin group air
[03:23] <MrFarts> c
[03:23] <Razor-X> mebaran151: some of them were checkinstalled
[03:23] <mebaran151> if you do it straight on the hdd they might not get hit too hard either
[03:23] <MrFarts> ubuntu does it straight by the group
[03:23] <mebaran151> oh
[03:23] <Razor-X> mebaran151: not all of them were, though
[03:23] <mebaran151> if they are pkg's
[03:23] <bimberi> diana: you need to be logged in as a user with sudo access to do this
[03:23] <mebaran151> they'll work out ok
[03:23] <Razor-X> mebaran151: they're compiled, some of them don't have deb packages
[03:23] <mebaran151> as long as they don't conflict apt shouldn't get too fussy
[03:23] <diana> root    ALL=(ALL) ALL
[03:23] <Glossary> how can i host my website and publish it when using my own machine?
[03:23] <diana> that is what I have in /etc/sudoers
[03:23] <MrFarts> OhNo, pretty much  :)
[03:23] <Razor-X> mebaran151: I hope not, especially not with ndiswrapper
[03:23] <diana> What am I supposed to putt?
[03:24] <MrFarts> diana, : # Members of the admin group may gain root privileges
[03:24] <MrFarts> %admin  ALL=(ALL) ALL
[03:24] <mebaran151> Razor-X, you're going to have recompile ndiswrapper anyway
[03:24] <MrFarts> diana, do you have a line like that ?
[03:24] <mebaran151> your kernel has changed and probably ndiswrapper won't be happy
[03:24] <Razor-X> mebaran151: oh, I am? because of the new kernel?
[03:24] <Razor-X> ah, ok
[03:24] <diana> MrFarts: no
[03:24] <mebaran151> yeah
[03:24] <Glossary> Anybody ??
[03:24] <diana> MrFarts: The line I pasted was the only one.
[03:24] <Razor-X> then I better brace for the worst
[03:24] <mebaran151> module stuff always breaks from Kernel to kernel
[03:24] <MrFarts> diana, well you can add in that line
[03:24] <mebaran151> it's best to recompile all your modules
[03:24] <mebaran151> so
[03:24] <MrFarts> diana, and then add diana to the admin group in /etc/group
[03:24] <mebaran151> any of you have an iPod you use with gtkpod
[03:24] <mebaran151> I just bought mine
[03:25] <mebaran151> but I can't seem to get it to create an iTunesDB
[03:25] <mebaran151> I pointed it at /media/sde2 where it is mounted
[03:25] <OhNo> says mount point does not exist :(
[03:25] <mebaran151> no
[03:25] <Glossary> how can i host my website and publish it when using my own machine?
[03:25] <mebaran151> it fails silently
[03:25] <BigIsleVegan> bimeri and _jason, thanks so much
[03:25] <MrFarts> OhNo, well create it
[03:25] <bimberi> diana: leave sudoers alone, type "sudo adduser diana admin" while logged in as a user with sudo access
[03:25] <mebaran151> Glossary, start up apache and do i
[03:25] <mebaran151> t
[03:25] <MrFarts> bimberi, her sudoers file isn't setup to allow admin access
[03:26] <OhNo> ok....
[03:26] <bimberi> MrFarts, diana: yes, sorry - pls ignore
[03:26] <MrFarts> bimberi, what you're suggesting won't do anything because the admin group doesn't have any special rights
[03:26] <paul__> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[03:26] <Glossary> mebaran151, where can i find apache
[03:26] <Glossary> ?
[03:26] <paul__> trying to install wine on 64 bit ubuntu.. this is what i get, anyway to resolve?
[03:26] <mebaran151> apt-get it
[03:27] <MrFarts> paul__, sounds like you don't have gcc installed :)
[03:27] <Glossary> apt-get install apache??
[03:27] <paul__> i do.
[03:27] <greatjones> what is the password i use after i type in "su"? my normal password doesnt work
[03:27] <MrFarts> paul__, i don't think you do
[03:27] <redguy> paul__: apt-get install build-essential ?
[03:27] <Razor-X> !tell greatjones about sudo
[03:27] <Glossary> Ok how can i know if i have a static IP ?
[03:27] <OhNo> how do I create a mount point?
[03:27] <MrFarts> OhNo, man mkdir
[03:27] <greatjones> razor-X thank you
[03:27] <bimberi> Glossary: ask your ISP
[03:27] <MrFarts> OhNo, it's just a directory
[03:27] <Razor-X> greatjones: no problem
[03:27] <Glossary> bimberi, i cant
[03:28] <Glossary> isnt there any other way ?
[03:28] <paul__> build-essential is already the newest version.
[03:28] <OhNo> oh kay
[03:28] <Razor-X> Glossary: check every such and such time your external IP
[03:28] <Razor-X> 's that simple
[03:28] <mebaran151> so any ideas?
[03:28] <alekz> is wine recommended ?
[03:28] <navarone> how do you get mounted volumes to appear as icons on desktop? I lost icon after usinf xfce. I have volume-visible checked in Config Editor /app/nautilus...dunno what else to do. Minor issue but would like to get icon back with out running win_mac_fstab script again
[03:28] <mebaran151> it's my Christmas present
[03:28] <Glossary> Razor-X, what?
[03:28] <paul__> gcc is already the newest version.
[03:28] <mebaran151> I would like it to ... work
[03:28] <MrFarts> paul__, can you make a .c file and compile it ?
[03:28] <mebaran151> it's so beautiful
[03:28] <Razor-X> Glossary: check your external IP every-so-often
[03:28] <mebaran151> I got CONTACT SYNCING TO WORK
[03:28] <redguy> !tell paul__ about compiling
[03:28] <mebaran151> but I can't make it create an iTunesDB!
[03:28] <Glossary> Razor-X, it doesnt change
[03:29] <drquin> I'm having trouble playing and audio codec A/52 5.1 actually it doesn't play at all any one can help?
[03:29] <Razor-X> Glossary: then try to disconnect, then reconnect, and check to make sure
[03:29] <paul__> http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb <- this is whati was following, there is no .deb package for my system so i'm compiling it. is this the right approach
[03:29] <Glossary> im sure man it doesnt change?? it means its static?
[03:29] <paul__> !tell paul__ about wine
[03:29] <Razor-X> Glossary: that is the definition of static, no?
[03:29] <Razor-X> :)
[03:29] <alekz> !wine
[03:29] <corza> [_] |3[_] |\|7[_] 
[03:30] <Glossary> :)
[03:30] <Razor-X> corza: is that 1337 for Ubuntu, or something?
[03:30] <redguy> ?
[03:30] <paul__> yes i can compile, i've compiled alot of other stuff, including vmware etc.
[03:30] <Razor-X> corza: because that's horribly hard to read :)
[03:30] <Glossary> ok Razor-X man.. or bimberi i installed apache.. but now what?!
[03:30] <corza> Razor-X possibly i'm quite bored lol
[03:30] <redguy> ah, leet-talk
[03:30] <Glossary> when i try to http://MYIPHERE it cant connect
[03:30] <Razor-X> bah, 1337 speak annoys me
[03:30] <Razor-X> Glossary: what about connecting to localhost
[03:31] <basti> does the user nobody have many rights ??
[03:31] <Glossary> Razor-X, yeah works but you cant access my page!
[03:31] <basti> permissions*
[03:31] <Glossary> Razor-X, cause my external ip doesnt work!..
[03:31] <corza> Razor-X i'm actually stuck on my Windows Partition right now lol. I can't reboot my PC because i'm departed from my computer for weeks and controlling it from work (remotely) so if i reboot it i will no longer have access
[03:31] <Allvis> Anyone wanna help me with hdparm ?
[03:31] <Razor-X> Glossary: well, are you behind a firewall of some sort, hardware or otherwise?
[03:32] <Razor-X> corza: heh
[03:32] <Glossary> Razor-X, ive installed an ircd server and it didnt work also.. but a guy fixed it to me in the ircd configuration.. something to do with bindings.. does that have anything to do with it?
[03:32] <Glossary> Razor-X, im not behind a firewall
[03:32] <greatjones> how do i copy a file from my desktop to a directory i just created, /usr/java
[03:32] <corvax> ive god an odd one
[03:32] <corvax> got
[03:32] <Razor-X> Glossary: do you have a copy of your old ircd config?
[03:32] <corvax> i hear system sounds  but cant hear an audio cd
[03:32] <corvax> in xmms
[03:33] <Glossary> Razor-X, yes i do
[03:33] <corvax> yeah the cd is playing i see it the mixer is maxed out
[03:33] <frogzoo> Allvis: wassup?
[03:33] <mikul> i just installd a new kernel and it seams to work fine, exept for the mounting of the hardrives. i get "mount: /dev/hdb1 already mounted or /home/mikul/share busy" when i try to mount and when i try to umount i get "umount: share: not mounted". anyone that knows what the problem could be?
[03:33] <matrice64> what is the cmd to show your ip address from shell ?
[03:33] <Glossary> Razor-X, but what for?
[03:33] <redguy> corvax: missing cable cd-audio cable ?
[03:33] <Razor-X> Glossary: simply run a diff between the two, and find out the line(s) that were changed
[03:34] <corvax> nope
[03:34] <bimberi> matrice64: ip a
[03:34] <corvax> its there
[03:34] <Allvis> frogzoo: having problem what to configure
[03:34] <Allvis> frogzoo: msg me
[03:34] <matrice64> bimberi, thank you :)
[03:34] <Glossary> Razor-X, i didnt get what you mean amn
[03:34] <Glossary> *man
[03:34] <bimberi> matrice64: np :)
[03:34] <greatjones> hello, i am wondering how to copy a file from the desktop to a directory - i don't think i can do it with the GUI
[03:34] <Kyral> yah you can
[03:34] <Kyral> the Desktop is just a dir :D
[03:35] <redguy> corvax: well, then the only advice I can give you is to play with your mixer settings...
[03:35] <JRlinux> I am ubuntu 5.10.  What kind of animal am I ?
[03:35] <Razor-X> Glossary: go to a terminal and run ``diff old new'' where old and new are your old and new irc config files respectively
[03:35] <greatjones> kyral: it says i dont have permission to do so
[03:35] <paul__> has anyone here sucessfully installed wine/similar on the 64bit version of ubuntu?
[03:35] <corvax> maybe it TIS the cable
[03:35] <corvax> i just plugged speakers into the front of the cd player
[03:35] <corvax> and now i hear it
[03:35] <redguy> paul__: does wine support 64 bit machines yet?
[03:35] <Glossary> Razor-X, no im not asking for that.. i want everyone to be able to view my site
[03:35] <corvax> i need to plkay with the wire
[03:35] <bimberi> paul__: afaik you can't (unless something has changed recently)
[03:36] <Razor-X> Glossary: yeah, but I want to see what he added to your ircd that fixed it
[03:36] <redguy> paul__: maybe you want to install it in a 32bit chroot jail?
[03:36] <JRlinux> warthog, hedgehog, or what???
[03:36] <Glossary> oh i dont have the old copy! i know what he changed
[03:36] <Glossary> you want me to paste it?
[03:36] <Glossary> on pastebin or smth ?
[03:36] <paul__> redguy, yeah possibly - is there a how-to on doing that?
[03:36] <bimberi> ubotu tell paul__ about chroot
[03:37] <redguy> JRlinux: Breezy Badger, though I don't have a slightest ideawhat a badger is
[03:37] <Razor-X> Glossary: yeah, if it's more than 2 lines, put it in pastebin though
[03:37] <JRlinux> redguy, thank you!
[03:37] <johnnybezak> hey guys, i'm doing an upgrade from warty to breezy and it has become borked
[03:37] <Glossary> Razor-X
[03:37] <johnnybezak> xlibs won't install because xkeyboard-config and libopenh323
[03:37] <johnnybezak> what should ido?
[03:37] <lu> rc.rizon.net
[03:38] <lu> irc.rizon.net
[03:38] <lu> 	irc.rizon.net
[03:38] <redguy> paul__: I can't remember the factoid, try googling for "ubuntu 32 bit chroot" or something similar
[03:38] <daved-> i am trying to use wpa_supplicant with a wrt54g router.. the wpa_supplicant seems to auth perfectly, but i cant dhcp once it's done.. even if i try to set a static ip i cant ping the router
[03:38] <Glossary> Razor-X,
[03:38] <frogzoo> johnnybezak: my guess - did you preinstall the ubuntu-base & ubuntu-desktop meta packages?
[03:38] <Glossary> port {
[03:38] <Glossary>     port    6667;         # Port to listen on
[03:38] <Glossary>     bind    10.137.134.2;    # IP address to listen on
[03:38] <johnnybezak> frogzoo: nope
[03:38] <jgrieves> dang it, why doesnt ctrl + tab work in gnome-panel
[03:38] <Glossary> he added the "bind"
[03:39] <johnnybezak> frogzoo: should i?
[03:39] <jgrieves> can i change with configuration editor/
[03:39] <Razor-X> Glossary: is that your local IP address?
[03:39] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell johnnybezak about upgrade
[03:39] <Glossary> Razor-X, true
[03:39] <bimberi> redguy: it's been done - chroot is the factoid.  Also - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badger
[03:39] <newbies> hi guys
[03:39] <frogzoo> johnnybezak: even worse - u tried to upgrade to breezy from warty - you HAVE to upgrade to hoary first - then breezy - its 2 steps
[03:39] <gnomefreak> johnnybezak, that will tell you what to do from step 1
[03:39] <newbies> anyones knows here how can i install kde on my ubuntu 5.10
[03:39] <johnnybezak> thanks guys, hopefully its fixable
[03:40] <paul__> If you use the chroot to build packages add --variant=buildd. Change breezy to according to your needs to warty or hoary, or leave as is for hoary chroot.
[03:40] <redguy> !tell paul__ about chroot
[03:40] <Razor-X> Glossary: simply add this line to your apache config
[03:40] <paul__> i'm unsure that this actually means
[03:40] <mikul> anyone?: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=550781
[03:40] <gnomefreak> newbies, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:40] <Razor-X> Glossary: Listen 10.137.134.2:80
[03:40] <Glossary> Razor-X, and where is my apache config?
[03:40] <newbies> gnomefreak,okies
[03:40] <seife> Hi, i need help, i have my HD, i created two partitions, one with windows, and the other one doesnt have format yet, how do i put format on it, format and install ubuntu?
[03:40] <redguy> bimberi: thanks
[03:41] <bimberi> redguy: np :)
[03:41] <frogzoo> johnnybezak: if it gives you any trouble, just install breezy from scratch
[03:41] <gnomefreak> newbies, that is a meta package it gives you a bunch of stuff for the kde desktop enviorment
[03:41] <navarone> seife...ubuntu will format partition itself during install
[03:41] <Razor-X> Glossary: should be httpd.conf, wherever apache lives
[03:41] <johnnybezak> frogzoo: i can't i've got data on here that I can't get off
[03:41] <Glossary> Razor-X, but i dont know where apache dir is
[03:41] <basti> why when I run whoami on a remote server it prints nobody ?
[03:41] <Glossary> i just installed it thrru apt
[03:41] <newbies> gnomefreak,theres no need to add in my respositories?
[03:41] <Falstius> using growisofs to burn a DVD seems to work well .. I wish I know why the nautilus tool barfs.
[03:41] <seife> navarone ok but tell me the steps to install ubuntu
[03:41] <bimberi> Glossary: /etc/apache
[03:41] <basti> its not very nice calling me a nobody :(
[03:42] <gnomefreak> newbies, it should be in main
[03:42] <Glossary> ok thanks ill try it
[03:42] <frogzoo> johnnybezak: maybe download/boot RIP - & move your data off - then upgrade - you do have a separate /home please ?
[03:42] <seife> i clicked on edit partitions manually.
[03:42] <Razor-X> Glossary: ``locate httpd.conf''
[03:42] <gnomefreak> newbies,  you can also go to synaptic and search for kubuntu-desktop if its there just click install
[03:42] <johnnybezak> gnomefreak: hey gnome freak i don't have the web here (i can't install anything because apt is borked and i've only got a terminal) would you be able to tell me what i need to do (sorry) :)?
[03:42] <newbies> gnomefreak,oks
[03:42] <navarone> seife> you have your partition space ready for ubuntu...you are pretty much hoem free. Just boot up and let ubuntu auto partition freespace...and that's about it...<s>
[03:43] <Glossary> Razor-X,  yea i added it.. now what shall id o??
[03:43] <gnomefreak> johnnybezak,  your trying to upgrade to breezy without an internet connection?
[03:43] <newbies> gnomefreak,i already have kde install on my system
[03:43] <gnomefreak> newbies, than way did you want to install it?
[03:43] <seife> navarone no, there is a partition
[03:43] <johnnybezak> gnomefreak: nope without the web haha
[03:43] <OhNo> learn something new everyday and that day is not wasted!!!
[03:43] <newbies> gnomefreak,but when i switch to kde session i cant find the applications
[03:43] <frogzoo> newbies: you should then be able to pick KDE from the login
[03:43] <johnnybezak> gnomefreak: web != internet
[03:44] <greatjones> installing java is more complicated than brain surgery
[03:44] <Falstius> johnnybezak: you could install lynx to have web access ;)
[03:44] <seife> navarone: with no format, so i have to erase it, and create a new one?
[03:44] <frogzoo> !tell greatjones about java
[03:44] <Glossary> Razor-X, i think i killed it .. using kill -9 pid now how can i rerun it?
[03:44] <gnomefreak> newbies,  kde is pretty much just the base the kubuntu-desktop is a meta package
[03:44] <newbies> gnomefreak,yep i did,
[03:44] <gnomefreak> lynx works offline?
[03:44] <Razor-X> Glossary: apache
[03:44] <redguy> greatjones: you're kidding, right?
[03:44] <newbies> gnomefreak,i never install kubuntu-desktop
[03:44] <Razor-X> Glossary: I believe ``apache'' should work, rather
[03:44] <Glossary> Razor-X, didnt start
[03:44] <newbies> gnomefreak,i try it
[03:44] <greatjones> redguy i am a total newbie and i am lost
[03:45] <Falstius> gnomefreak: lynx works without an xserver.  He's got internet, he's using it for IRC
[03:45] <greatjones> redguy i've been trying to do it going by the java website
[03:45] <navarone> seife, the install does not care if space is formatted. It will format during install so that it can copy files and set up syustem
[03:45] <gnomefreak> newbies, the kubuntu-desktop has everything you could ever need kinda
[03:45] <redguy> greatjones: did you read what ubotu told you?
[03:45] <Glossary> Razor-X, i still cant connect thru the IP
[03:45] <frogzoo> greatjones: the link from ubotu is very clear - step by step
[03:45] <seife> navarone: ok brb.
[03:45] <greatjones> redguy i will try again frogzoo
[03:45] <johnnybezak> gnomefreak: it's ok i got links
[03:45] <navarone> man...I need to get new fans...the sound is annoying
[03:46] <Glossary> Razor-X, just a sec.. how to kill it??
[03:46] <gnomefreak> that would mean he would have to make lynx/links his default to upgrade no?
[03:47] <Razor-X> Glossary: find the pid of apache, and kill it
[03:47] <Razor-X> (ps -ef | grep apache)
[03:47] <redguy> Glossary: the most civilized way would be "sudo invoke-rc.d apache stop", you might propably try to "sudo killall apache"
[03:48] <gnomefreak> apt-get dist-upgrade the more i think about it doesnt care what browser you use
[03:48] <Glossary> ok guys after editing the .conf file
[03:48] <Glossary> i kill it and rerun it?? using apache in terminal
[03:48] <Glossary> and it should work ?
[03:49] <redguy> Glossary: how about sudo invoke-rc.d apache start?
[03:49] <johnnybezak> Glossary: yeah or just sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart
[03:49] <redguy> or even sudo /etc/init.d/apache start
[03:49] <alekz> how can i set that system mount a partition when system be on ?
[03:50] <Glossary> ok done guys! but not working still ! :S
[03:50] <Glossary> here try to connect http://212.36.210.6/
[03:51] <redguy> alekz: not sure that I understood you, but you might want to look into man fstab and then edit /etc/fstab
[03:51] <Glossary> hey redguy , johnnybezak , Razor-X now the http://localhost/ dont work either!!
[03:51] <alekz> thanks redguy
[03:52] <newbies> gnomefreak,after i installed my kubuntu-desktop waht should i do?
[03:53] <daved-> anyone know of a gui client for wpa_supplicant ?
[03:54] <daved-> i.e. i want to be able to save "profiles" and log in at home and work
[03:54] <exequor> can someone tell me where i can get info on setting up my ethernet card for my lan
[03:54] <exequor> and wireless also?
[03:54] <shinu> anyone can recommend a good torrent client similar to rtorrent?
[03:54] <Glossary> Hi! please some1 help ..
[03:55] <robotgeek> shinu: rufus.sf.net
[03:55] <redguy> Glossary: I don't know too much about apache config
[03:55] <hectorC> hello, anyone here could help me with xcompmgr and my nvidia 6600?
[03:56] <redguy> Glossary: what does "sudo netstat -pl --numeric | grep apache" say? can you paste it somewhere with your httpd.conf ?
[03:56] <Glossary> redguy, yea just a sec
[03:56] <shinu> robotgeek: thanks, but i was trying to look into some cmd line that have the cool options the guis have :)
[03:56] <redguy> Glossary: just don't paste it here
[03:57] <Glossary> eya i wont
[03:57] <redguy> !tell Glossary about pastebin
[03:57] <Glossary> or that okay
[03:57] <robotgeek> shinu: bittornado then
[03:57] <skeld> Openbox+Gnome: anyone know how to fix the fullscreen video panel problem?
[03:57] <fr500> man
[03:57] <Glossary> redguy,  ok thats ur command
[03:57] <Glossary> root@ubuntu:/etc/apache # sudo netstat -pl --numeric | grep apache
[03:57] <Glossary> tcp        0      0 10.137.134.2:80         0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN     9201/apache
[03:57] <phoul> Hello
[03:57] <Glossary> and ill paste the other thingy on pastebin
[03:57] <phoul> I have a problem
[03:57] <Glossary> just a sec
[03:57] <phoul> My disk drive wont open
[03:57] <fr500> breezy has been a step back for my poor laptop, i guess i gotta go back to hoary
[03:58] <fr500> and my breezy cd's just arrived.....
[03:58] <shinu> robotgeek: i already tried it, it doesnt do multi torrent alongside with file prioritising :/
[03:58] <shinu> robotgeek: or if it does, its quite unhandy...
[03:58] <robotgeek> shinu: hmm, okay.
[03:58] <phoul> anyone know how to get my diskdrive open
[03:58] <Glossary> redguy, ok ( http://pastebin.com/451896 )
[03:58] <shinu> robotgeek: quite demanding am i not? :P
[03:58] <fr500> anyone having problmes shutting off their pcs? mine just halts now and it's kinda annoying
[03:59] <redguy> Glossary: well, how about trying to connect with http://10.137.134.2/ in your browser?
[03:59] <phoul> anyone at all...
[03:59] <phoul> I need my disk drive open...
[04:00] <cdubya> phoul, what kind of drive?
[04:00] <shinu> phoul: what do you mean get your disk drive open?..
[04:00] <phoul> my cd drive
[04:00] <phoul> It wont open
[04:00] <shinu> erm
[04:00] <cdubya> got a paper clip?
[04:00] <Glossary> redguy, nah doesnt work either tried it
[04:00] <greatjones> hello, i am trying to install java, and i get this error message: Reading package lists... Done
[04:00] <greatjones> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:00] <greatjones> E: Couldn't find package java-package
[04:00] <greatjones>   I have added the repositories as the ubuntu documentation suggests, but i still get this error message. what am i doing wrong? thank you
[04:00] <phoul> Lol i want it to open like it shoul
[04:00] <cdubya> phoul, got a paper clip?
[04:00] <phoul> d
[04:00] <redguy> Glossary: hrmmm
[04:00] <shinu> if you have a needle or something, there must be a small hole at the front of the drive
[04:00] <Hobbsee> !tell greatjones about java
[04:00] <Glossary> redguy, oh okay! http://10.137.134.2/ works!
[04:00] <cdubya> phoul, do you have a cd mounted....
[04:01] <redguy> Glossary: you sure that no firewall is involved?
[04:01] <Glossary> redguy, can you connect??? http://10.137.134.2/
[04:01] <intelikey> wow. bogus dude!  x wont start without a mouse.   that's just wrong's what that is.
[04:01] <redguy> Glossary: ah, cool
[04:01] <phoul> cdubya, it usualy works
[04:01] <Glossary> i dont think you can..
[04:01] <phoul> It just stops sometimes and its odd
[04:01] <redguy> Glossary: this is a private IP
[04:01] <greatjones> hobbsee i am following those directions, and i still get that error message
[04:01] <Glossary> redguy, i know.. i want it to work on (212.36.210.6)
[04:01] <Hobbsee> !tell greatjones about javadeb
[04:01] <Hobbsee> use the javadeb link instead
[04:02] <cdubya> phoul, I always use a paper clip.
[04:02] <cdubya> heh
[04:02] <greatjones> thank you hobbsee i will try
[04:02] <Hobbsee> no problems
[04:02] <redguy> phoul: if you see a cd icon on your desktop, click right mouse button and select eject or  something similar
[04:02] <greatjones> hobbsee which one do i use? and then what do i do with it?
[04:03] <exequor> how do i connect to my local area network?
[04:03] <redguy> Glossary: well, how about changing the line with 10.137. to 212.36.210 ?
[04:03] <Hobbsee> the one that says jre1.5 and you download it, cd to the directory you downloaded it in a terminal, and "sudo dpkg -i sun<tab>"
[04:03] <cdubya> redguy, that's where I was going, but it got dismissed.....;)
[04:03] <Glossary> redguy, ok done, try i http://212.36.210.6/ does it work for u?
[04:03] <cdubya> I think it was the paper clip thing.
[04:03] <cdubya> heh
[04:04] <redguy> cdubya: wasn't sure if paper clip was the only advice you wanted to give :-)
[04:04] <redguy> Glossary: you restarted apache?
[04:04] <intelikey> phoul  'sudo eject /dev/hd? ' where ? is the letter that addresses your cdrom drive.    hdc = master on second ide  hdb = slave on first ide.     but first make sure all apps are closed that might be trying to read from it.
[04:04] <cdubya> redguy, :)
[04:04] <exequor> what the fuck is this? so i can't get a little help to setup a lan connection in ubuntu... fuck this shit
[04:04] <Glossary> redguy, yea  i think so.. i did killall apache && apache
[04:04] <AbdulSpiegel> can anyone link me to the ubuntu breezy upgrade tutorial?
[04:05] <_jason> ubotu, tell AbdulSpiegel about breezy
[04:05] <greatjones> hobbsee: sudo dpkg -i sun<tab>
[04:05] <greatjones> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[04:05] <greatjones> that is the error message
[04:05] <Glossary> tell AbdulSpiegel about breezy
[04:05] <Glossary> !tell AbdulSpiegel about breezy
[04:05] <robotgeek> shinu: i use rufus, which apparently does all that. but you want cli, so try the official bittorrent client
[04:05] <Glossary> neat bot
[04:05] <redguy> Glossary: you got apache from the repositories? if so use /etc/init.d/apache to control it. it's the Right Way :-)
[04:05] <shadeofgrey> okay guys heres a stupid question
[04:06] <Hobbsee> greatjones: you do realise that <tab> means to hit the tab key?  :P
[04:06] <greatjones> ok hobbsee lol
[04:06] <shadeofgrey> would you all shun me if I got a 17" powerbook and a 30" cinema display?
[04:06] <cdubya> heh
[04:06] <Glossary> redguy, ok i stopped it and then
[04:06] <Glossary> root@ubuntu:/etc/apache # /etc/init.d/apache start
[04:06] <Glossary> Starting web server: apache.
[04:06] <Glossary> try now man
[04:06] <shinu> robotgeek: the official is reaaally restrictive.. it doesnt even allow to cap uploads... well, nvm. ill take a look at rufus for now. its better than azureus i guess :)
[04:06] <intelikey> greatjones it is telling you the syntax in a script is incorrect.   it has something like  if blah ;then ;blah    the second ';' will error in that example.
[04:06] <phoul> is there a program i can get that i can rip *from* a cd?
[04:07] <phoul> Not into oggs
[04:07] <phoul> But into mp3's like they should be?
[04:07] <cdubya> phoul, grip.....?
[04:07] <intelikey> not ogg ?
[04:07] <intelikey> why not ogg ?
[04:07] <bimberi> shadeofgrey: nah, we'd just giggle as you struggle to get better than 640x480 on it :P
[04:07] <greatjones> oh so hobbsee i am good to go?
[04:07] <navarone> phoul...sound juicer
[04:07] <cdubya> bimberi, heh
[04:07] <phoul> navarone, that goes into ogg's
[04:07] <Hobbsee> greatjones: if you can get that command to run, you should be
[04:07] <navarone> phoul...probably can
[04:08] <greatjones> it seems to have worked, so thank you hobbsee
[04:08] <Hobbsee> no prolems
[04:08] <Hobbsee> *problems
[04:08] <shadeofgrey> i have that same beef...  id gladly use ogg instead of .mp3, but ogg is such a low bitrate that thge output is TERRIBLE
[04:08] <navarone> phoul see what synaptic description gives
[04:08] <redguy> Glossary: still no go
[04:08] <intelikey> what do you mean low bit rate ?
[04:08] <shadeofgrey> and none of the good lkinux friendly portable mp3 players support flac either
[04:08] <intelikey> 44100  low ?
[04:08] <Glossary> redguy,  :/ ah man... i really need this
[04:08] <Glossary> any other ideas?
[04:09] <intelikey> i'm sure it can go higher than 44k shadeofgrey
[04:09] <alekz> anyone knows what is gnome-pty-helper process ?
[04:10] <navarone> rythmbox  supports ipod
[04:10] <fr500> anyone having problmes shutting off their pcs? mine just halts and locks now and it's kinda annoying
[04:10] <shadeofgrey> bimberi:  why would i struggle to reach 640x480?  thefirs thing im going to do whe it arrives is open up the case and swiitch the graphics card to a dual 7800 set
[04:10] <bimberi> shadeofgrey: j/k :P
[04:10] <redguy> Glossary: last one, change "Listen 10.xx.xx.xx" to "Listen 80" and remove the '#' from "#BindAddress *"
[04:11] <shadeofgrey> fr500: i had the same peoblem.  move all your importrant crap to a seconday drive and reinstall using the official syable build of ubuntu
[04:11] <roberto_> navarione: Hi, with rythmbox you can update the ipod?
[04:11] <redguy> Glossary: /etc/init.d/apache restart and we will see
[04:11] <fr500> shadeofgrey: i downloaded yesterday
[04:12] <shadeofgrey> fr500:  that doesnt mean mucvh at face value.  are you sure tat its the breezy badger release?
[04:12] <phoul> well uhh
[04:12] <phoul> grib burns into wavs
[04:12] <fr500> shadeofgrey: yes of course
[04:12] <shadeofgrey> intelikey:  not withouty other plugins apparently
[04:12] <Ishotweb> hey, can someone tell me what i can do to mount my windows partition? i did it but then it says access is denied when i try to view it in nautilus
[04:12] <Glossary> redguy, okay
[04:13] <shadeofgrey> fr500:  did you do distro-upgrade and all that stuff?
[04:13] <redguy> Glossary: done?
[04:13] <bimberi> Ishotweb: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[04:13] <fr500> shadeofgrey: no, it is a clean breezy install
[04:14] <Glossary> redguy, yup done.
[04:14] <shadeofgrey> fr500:  if thats how you upgraded to breezy i highly recommend blowing away yourentire installation and starting from scratch
[04:14] <Glossary> redguy, just a second
[04:14] <phoul> grib burns into .wav's i need .mp3's
[04:14] <anibal_> alguem fala em portugues
[04:14] <Glossary> i remove the 10.xx.xx.xx and only put Listen 80 ??
[04:14] <fr500> shadeofgrey: actually it even locked at the reboot during installation
[04:14] <intelikey> shadeofgrey ogg is a compression format for sound files, replaces mp3.  you can convert cda to ogg.  i do it with audacity all the time.  and there are other apps that use ogg as well.
[04:14] <Ishotweb> bimberi, hmm sorry, should have thought to check the wiki first. thanks for the help
[04:14] <redguy> Glossary: uhm, should work
[04:14] <redguy> Glossary: but doesn't
[04:15] <Glossary> redguy, just a sec i didnt do it
[04:15] <starscalling> !java
[04:15] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[04:15] <starscalling> !javadeba
[04:15] <ubotu> Not a clue, starscalling
[04:15] <bimberi> Ishotweb: no problem whatsoever :)
[04:15] <starscalling> !javadebs
[04:15] <ubotu> somebody said javadebs was Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[04:15] <Glossary> redguy, ok its Listen 80 now and with the # on Bind
[04:15] <shadeofgrey> fr500:  id ont knowe how to help you yjem
[04:15] <Glossary> try it man
[04:15] <fr500> ;|
[04:16] <Glossary> even http://10.xxx dont work now and localhost too
[04:16] <Glossary> :s
[04:16] <anibal_> portugues????
[04:16] <bimberi> !br
[04:16] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.
[04:16] <Jinkguns> I'm having issues with the ati drivers on two computers, when I run any 3d enabled software, everything runs fine but the 3d image with hang every 5 seconds for less then a second, and it always repeats. Any ideas?
[04:16] <anibal_> obrigado.
[04:16] <redguy> Glossary: is it BindAddress * now? or #BindAddress * ?
[04:17] <NobodyHere> hey all, I have a postfix problem which a friend and I have been unable to solve, regarding the transport table
[04:17] <chris__> hi  is there a way to back xbox games in linux?
[04:18] <shadeofgrey> chris__:  no...  not that i know of - but you CAN convert it to a linux WORKSTATION
[04:18] <phoul> I need something that will rip to a mp3
[04:18] <phoul> I know grip has that option
[04:18] <phoul> But it says it wont work
[04:18] <chris__> shadeofgrey, im just looking to iso a game disk
[04:19] <intelikey> phoul you got the codecs for mp3 ?
[04:19] <Glossary> redguy, sorry.. yeah, Its BindAddress *
[04:19] <phoul> intelikey, how do i get them?
[04:19] <shadeofgrey> chris__:  the same people who did that have already started on doing the same to 360
[04:20] <redguy> Glossary: I obviously lack the skill. Somebody else here might help you out...
[04:20] <Glossary> nah man ur good :)
[04:20] <chris__> shadeofgrey, the 360 isnt hacked yet... might never be
[04:20] <Glossary> the mistake is probably here..
[04:20] <Glossary> hey look man how can i know if im behind a firewall. even tho i dont use any programs or anything
[04:20] <phoul> How do i get the mp3codec's
[04:20] <skeld> Openbox+Gnome problem... anyone know how to fix the fullscreen video panel problem?
[04:21] <NbdyHr> hey all....got booted off, not sure if my message came across.  I'm having some postfix problems - postfix seems to be ignoring the transport table entries I've set up
[04:21] <intelikey> phoul read what ubotu said
[04:22] <tag> anyone use hula?
[04:22] <fr500> tag: i do
[04:22] <Glossary> Hello can anybody help me with APACHE???
[04:23] <johnnybezak> Glossary: what's the matter mate?
[04:23] <phoul> Umm which codec's
[04:23] <navarone> hula? Naw...the skirt will do nothing for me...<s>
[04:23] <intelikey> !mp3
[04:23] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:23] <intelikey> !codecs
[04:23] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[04:24] <fr500> tag: what do you need?
[04:24] <phoul> intelikey, Im looking at the ubotu message and in the webpage
[04:24] <phoul> But i dont know which one...
[04:25] <mathias64> OK, so here's a loaded question.  I have been using debian unstable for years and years, with no problems, and I always seem to have mostly current software.  What if any advantage is there to switching to ubuntu?  Note: I don't run gnome.
[04:25] <tag> fr500: I just set it up on my server, and I can't seem to get to it :-)
[04:25] <fr500> tag: explain better, did you us the packages from synaptic?
[04:25] <intelikey> mathias64 hehhe heres a loaded answer.   none.
[04:25] <dortiz> hi, i have a question, I'm trying to install ubuntu over a borked debian install, is there a way to install ubuntu without formatting the root partition, like I can drop down to the terminal from the install and manually erase the debian install sans my home dir and other backups
[04:26] <phoul> intelikey, which code c's ?
[04:26] <tag> fr500: more or less (apt-get, this is a server afterall)
[04:26] <fr500> tag: what version do you have?
[04:26] <mathias64> intelikey: fair enough
[04:26] <phoul> ahh well i already have w32codec's
[04:27] <intelikey> dortiz yes.  use expert mode.
[04:27] <navarone> mathias64, if debian unstable floats your boat stick with it...you are more adept at linux than me but I figure if it ain't broke don't fix it
[04:27] <tag> fr500: hula 0.1.0+svn162-2ubuntu1 (latest in breezy)
[04:27] <dortiz> intelikey ok that's all I wanted to know before I go and brave th cold in boston to try to find a blank cd to fix my machine :)
[04:27] <alekz> how can i format a esclave hdd ?
[04:27] <fr500> tag, that is very very old man
[04:28] <kaha> Anyone else have a problem getting giFToxic to connect? Using the fasttrack and OpenFT plugins. Worked fine for me until I upgrraded to Breezy.
[04:28] <tag> fr500: so the latest in breezy is very very old? :-(
[04:28] <Jinkguns> How can I acess my ntfs partition? it's in /windows but there is a secruity symbol and I am denied access.
[04:28] <fr500> tag: don't fear, gimmie a minute
[04:28] <tag> that's disappointing
[04:28] <fr500> tag http://www.alcoholicsunanimous.com/hula/
[04:28] <Glossary> johnnybezak, hey man.. i cant get my apache to work
[04:28] <fr500> see there
[04:29] <intelikey> !ntfs
[04:29] <ubotu> somebody said ntfs was the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[04:29] <simon_amarok> hi all, i am having some trouble installing amarok from the svn (amarok-svn.sh)... it
[04:29] <intelikey> Jinkguns ^
[04:29] <johnnybezak> Glossary: what doesn't work about it?
[04:29] <alekz> Jinkguns, you should change owner of mount point
[04:29] <simon_amarok> it is giving me this error: libtool: link: cannot find the library `/usr/lib/libstdc++.la'
[04:29] <simon_amarok> the guys at amarok sent me here :)
[04:29] <tag> fr500: they say the ones in ubuntu universe are probably more up to date
[04:29] <tag> hah!
[04:30] <fr500> tag?
[04:30] <tag> Not saying they are, this page just says that, anyway.
[04:30] <Glossary> johnnybezak, here try it http://212.36.210.6
[04:30] <Glossary> johnnybezak, nobody can connect to it exept me..
[04:30] <navarone> simon...in terminal sudo dpkg -l libstdcc++ <-- should search for packages containing this file/package
[04:31] <johnnybezak> Glossary: when you type http://localhost in your address bar what does it do
[04:31] <navarone> dunno if sudo is needed for that tho
[04:31] <simon_amarok> Glossary:
[04:31] <simon_amarok> sudo dpkg -l libstdcc++
[04:31] <simon_amarok> sorry!  No packages found matching libstdcc++.
[04:31] <Glossary> johnnybezak, it works...
[04:31] <Glossary> simon_amarok, whats that?
[04:32] <navarone> oh well
[04:32] <johnnybezak> Glossary: that means you have a networking problem, not an appache problem
[04:32] <navarone> simon use synaptic and search fro file...maybe a package
[04:32] <simon_amarok> it gave me this output: No packages found matching libstdcc++.
[04:32] <alekz> how can i format a esclave hdd ?
[04:32] <johnnybezak> Glossary: have you got other computers on your lan?
[04:32] <navarone> simon...you may need to enable repo as well
[04:32] <Glossary> johnnybezak, well ircd worked fine.. other people can connect...
[04:33] <Glossary> simon_amarok,  No packages found matching libstdcc++.
[04:33] <Jinkguns> alekz, I'm trying but it's read-only so i can't change the owner, any ideas?
[04:33] <alekz> Jinkguns, you can change the owner with sudo command :)
[04:33] <redguy> simon_amarok: this is a long shot, but how about installing libstdc++6-dbg ?
[04:33] <Glossary> johnnybezak, yeah..i do
[04:33] <simon_amarok> http://amarok.pastebin.com/451923
[04:33] <simon_amarok> okay, i will try
[04:33] <johnnybezak> Glossary: ok try and connect to the server from a local computer using your local ip
[04:34] <Gorgon> My roommate just installed Breezy and has added some apps through Synaptic (tilp, some small games, subversion guis, etc.) and the icons wont show up in the applications menu.  Can anyone help?
[04:34] <intelikey> simon_amarok you can search for packages with 'apt-cache search <blah> '   and after finding the full name of <blah>  do the 'dpkg -l <blah>.deb '
[04:34] <Glossary> johnnybezak, oh wait no there is no other computers.. i have wireless connection
[04:34] <Jinkguns> chmod: changing permissions of `/windows/': Read-only file system
[04:34] <_jason> Gorgon, try: killall gnome-panel
[04:34] <Jinkguns> I thought the kernel had ntfs write enabled.
[04:34] <tag> fr500: this did little more than make a mess of my packages
[04:35] <fishhead> CANUCKS
[04:35] <fishhead> CANUCKS
[04:35] <fishhead> is it true that unbuntu has no compiler
[04:35] <fr500> tag: care to explain?
[04:35] <_jason> fishhead, no
[04:35] <fishhead> good
[04:35] <fishhead> :D
[04:35] <fishhead> I used to be a linux guru, now I am just a rusted out senile basterd
[04:35] <fishhead> so I am way behind on distro specs
[04:36] <Glossary> oh nice..
[04:36] <_jason> fishhead, you'll need to install the build-essential package to get the-- you guessed it== essential packages for building stuff :D
[04:36] <Glossary> Hello can anybody help me with APACHE???
[04:36] <fishhead> jason col
[04:36] <fishhead> i got two PII 300 laptops
[04:36] <fishhead> 144 meg of ram
[04:36] <fishhead> going to give ubuntu a go
[04:36] <fishhead> $50 eacg
[04:36] <fishhead> so far they are in pretty good shape
[04:36] <_jason> fishhead, you may want to try xubuntu with those system specs
[04:36] <Jinkguns> alekz, I tried chmod 777 but I got chmod: changing permissions of `/windows/': Read-only file system
[04:36] <fishhead> except for the li-ion batteries being canucked but I expected that
[04:37] <fishhead> xubuntu ?
[04:37] <tag> fr500:
[04:37] <Jinkguns> I thought ntfs write was in the kernel.
[04:37] <navarone> canucked? lol
[04:37] <_jason> fishhead, xubuntu is ubuntu but it uses xfce instead of gnome
[04:37] <Glossary> guys please.. how can i get my apache to work for everyone?
[04:37] <fishhead> ah
[04:37] <tag> fr500: I was unable to install it because it pulled down a version of sqllite that conflicts with another package I have installed
[04:37] <fishhead> is it possible to make xfce very windows like
[04:37] <fishhead> or do you need gnome or kde for that
[04:37] <fishhead> man I feel like a newbie again
[04:37] <fr500> tag: yes, you need to uninstall the one you had
[04:37] <alekz> Jinkguns, :o i see, i dont know :S
[04:38] <fishhead> I used to help people install redhat, patch the kernel, compile the kernel all over the phone long distance
[04:38] <navarone> fishhead, I am sure you can get a xfce theme that resembles windows
[04:38] <kaha> fishhead: it's more like CDE, but better.
[04:38] <fishhead> in fact one newbie I helped went on to do documentation for KDE
[04:38] <fishhead> :)
[04:38] <intelikey> fishhead if you like 'windows like' you might like icewmlight
[04:38] <fishhead> intel not so much for me as for someone I give this laptop
[04:38] <Falstius> Glossary: you should start by getting a real IP address
[04:38] <fishhead> instead of using windows 2000
[04:38] <braniff> what's the best way to install wpa_supplicant on ubuntu ?? is there a debian pkg somewhere ?
[04:38] <intelikey> it's win95 ish  for linux.
[04:38] <Glossary> Falstius, what do you mean
[04:38] <fishhead> that's fine
[04:39] <fishhead> win9xish is fine
[04:39] <fishhead> as long as it doesn't run like win9x
[04:39] <intelikey> goes great on low end stuff.
[04:39] <fishhead> win9x = SUPER CANUCKED
[04:39] <Falstius> Glossary: I can't even ping the address you gave earlier.
[04:39] <fishhead> win9x = MORE UNSTABLE THAN I AM
[04:39] <simon_amarok> i'm still getting the same error even after this: http://amarok.pastebin.com/451923
[04:39] <Gorgon> _jason: killall gnome-panel didn't work... any other ideas?
[04:39] <fr500> does beagle work fine if i have my home dir in the same partition as the rest?
[04:39] <Falstius> which means that either that's not your ip address or your behind a firewall that doesn't allow pings (and probably not HTTP either)
[04:39] <Glossary> Falstius, so? :s its real! try this 212.36.210.6 or the 10.137.134.2
[04:40] <Glossary> a
[04:40] <_jason> Gorgon, is the problem that icons are not showing or that there is no shortcut at all?
[04:40] <newbies> anyone here knows whats the equivalent for setup cmd fron redhat in ubuntu?
[04:40] <navarone> fishhead isntall server install adn then apt get xbuntu-desktop...that will give you desktop with xfce as you window manager...you can install more as the need hits
[04:40] <Falstius> Glossary: 10.137.134.2 is a local address, it is only good for machines on the same limited network as you.
[04:40] <Gorgon> _jason: they show up in the menu editor, the visible box is checked for all, but they dont show up in the actual menu
[04:40] <Glossary> Falstius, ok what about the other one?
[04:40] <fishhead> huh
[04:40] <simon_amarok> i'm going to try and restart and then try again
[04:40] <tag> heh, hula is a mono project?  oh boy
[04:40] <Falstius> Glossary: the other one is the one I said doesn't work.
[04:41] <ajmitch> tag: no, it's not
[04:41] <Glossary> Your IP Is 212.36.210.6
[04:41] <Glossary> Proxy Detected Is 194.126.24.2
[04:41] <Falstius> Either it is wrong, or you're behind a firewall
[04:41] <_jason> Gorgon, don't know what's going on there, sorry
[04:41] <braniff> "Breezy Badger"? heh
[04:41] <tag> ajmitch: then why did it require mono?
[04:41] <fr500> tag: no it's not, there are some bindings or something to query the db from mono i think
[04:41] <ajmitch> tag: it doesn't :)
[04:41] <Falstius> Glossary: are you at work?  at school?
[04:41] <Glossary> Falstius, is there anyway to know if im behind a firewall or not?? But i really dont think that i am..
[04:41] <Glossary> Falstius, im home..
[04:41] <alekz> how can i format a hdd using ext3 format ?
[04:41] <intelikey> setup cmd ?      to configure things already installed newbies?  or to install new.
[04:42] <intelikey> alekz 'mke2fs -cj /dev/hdd#
[04:43] <chris86wm> hey guys, is there anyway to record live tv in ubuntu?
[04:43] <navarone> glossary...try http://www.grc.com and try the ShieldUp...will probe port and give you an idea of how visible you are online
[04:43] <kaha> Again, are there any known issues in Breezy with giftd, giFToxic or libfasttrack? It *should* all be configured right, but I'm not connecting.  :(
[04:43] <chris86wm> i have zapping set up but i dont see a record feature.....
[04:43] <Glossary> navarone, ok just a sec :)
[04:43] <intelikey> alekz that assumes it is a linux partiton.   if not use cfdisk first. and make one.
[04:43] <navarone> kaha> perhaps giftD server are down?
[04:43] <Falstius> Glossary: it looks like your internet provider has you on a subnetwork and then you use a proxy server to access the outside world
[04:43] <Falstius> you aren't going to be able to run a webserver from there.
[04:44] <alekz> intelikey, i'll format entire hdd for mount it to /home2/
[04:44] <kaha> navarone: giftd appears to be running, tho
[04:44] <chris86wm> any ideas?
[04:44] <Glossary> Falstius, is that bad??
[04:44] <Glossary> navarone, Your Internet connection has no Reverse DNS
[04:45] <intelikey> alekz are you talking 'without a pratition table at all' ?
[04:45] <kaha> navarone: giFT is P2P.
[04:45] <navarone> kaha I know..:)
[04:45] <paul__> i'm following this howto (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=8d9f5b557e17a22022dcda63d76578c7&t=24575&page=2), and i get this: Setting locale failed
[04:45] <johnnybezak> hey guys how do i reconfigure my xorg
[04:45] <johnnybezak> ?
[04:45] <alekz> intelikey, it has fedora core installed :S what shoud i do then ?
[04:45] <intelikey> can be done but i don't recomend.
[04:45] <newbies> intelikey,yep setup cmd on the terminal?
[04:45] <paul__> but i dont think there is anything wrong with my locale settings
[04:45] <ramza3> anybody help me with this?  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=550953#post550953
[04:45] <newbies> intelikey,whats the equivalent/
[04:46] <kaha> navarone: Was just wondering, because it ran normally on my box with Hoary. Same configuration.
[04:46] <alekz> intelikey, then what u recommend ?
[04:46] <chris86wm> does anyone know if you can record live tv in ubuntu?
[04:46] <tag> fr500: Failed to load any MDB driver
[04:46] <intelikey> newbies i have no idea.   what do you want to do and we'll see if we can find a way.
[04:46] <intelikey> alekz you have more than one hdd ?
[04:46] <ramza3> it is about power management on a laptop
[04:47] <Glossary> navarone, the site you gave me doesnt work (The parameter is incorrect. )
[04:47] <Falstius> Glossary: out of curiousity, who is your service provider?
[04:47] <alekz> yes intelikey and i want to format second hdd to mount there /home2/
[04:47] <newbies> intelikey,just like seting up ur ip address on the terminal?
[04:47] <navarone> kaha> maybe it needs a port forwarded in order to connect. Try a web forum dedicated to giftD software
[04:47] <Glossary> Falstius, http://idm.com.lb
[04:47] <newbies> intelikey,how can i do that?
[04:47] <fr500> tag: i installed yesterday, went smoothly, first, remove (completely) i think the option is purge, then reinstall
[04:47] <Glossary> Falstius, http://idm.net.lb <- sorry
[04:47] <fr500> tag: als there is always #hula
[04:47] <z3r0_d> I have a new 5.10 install, what do I need to mess with to make it not try to synch clocks with ntp.ubuntulinux.org [this machine, being a laptop usually doesn't boot with working networking, so this fails and takes forever] 
[04:47] <kaha> navarone: k, thx.  :)
[04:48] <bur[n] er> z3r0_d: temp solution is to hit "ctrl+c" when it gets to that step
[04:48] <DsM> anyone know how to sign up to be a mirror for ubuntu?
[04:48] <bur[n] er> z3r0_d: long solution is use "boot-up manager" to make the ntp service not start
[04:48] <z3r0_d> bur[n] er, I might've tried that... I'll have to check
[04:48] <navarone> which address Glossary?
[04:49] <Falstius> Glossary: what country is lb?  lebannon?
[04:49] <paul__> is there anyone here who has been able to get going a ftp client in 64bit ubuntu that supports both TLS/SSL ftp connections
[04:49] <paul__> i'm really starting to get disspointed, because i cannot get ANY of them to work
[04:49] <newbies> intelikey,how can i setup my ip adress on the terminal/
[04:50] <intelikey> alekz then yes formating the entire disk for that is fine.   with a partition.   but i still wouldn't format the disk without a partition.  that is asking for trubble.       example.  mke2fs -cj /dev/hdb1       but not.  mke2fs /dev/hdb     <--- that is what i wouldn't recomend.
[04:50] <Glossary> Falstius, yeah.. Lebanon
[04:50] <Glossary> Falstius, navarone the Shieldup thingy
[04:50] <intelikey> newbies lets see if one of these guys that does netowrking can help with that.   i'm like network illiterate.
[04:51] <alekz> intelikey, why i need a partition and what do u recommend ?
[04:51] <Falstius> Glossary: I suspect that your internet provider doesn't allow incoming connections.  You aren't going to be able to run a website from your computer.
[04:51] <navarone> Glossary> perhaps it won't run beacuse of location...<?>
[04:51] <No>  ircchat.terra.cl 7000
[04:51] <intelikey> alekz  do a  sudo fdisk -l    and see what partitions you have now.
[04:51] <Glossary> Falstius, but i can run an ircd ...!
[04:52] <Glossary> Falstius, and anyone can connect to it..
[04:52] <alekz> intelikey, but why i need them in a second hdd ?
[04:52] <Falstius> Glossary, maybe they only block port 80 (http)
[04:52] <Falstius> you can configure apache to use a different port
[04:53] <alekz> intelikey, well i know i need partitions on my system hdd but on a hdd that will be just to save some files are needed ?
[04:53] <Glossary> Falstius, how ?
[04:53] <z3r0_d> bur[n] er, in the Services manager ntpdate is not selected
[04:53] <foampeace> hello
[04:54] <foampeace> is ther a way to jack up the speed on this dialup
[04:54] <lysis> .cpkg files;  how do i work with those?
[04:54] <tag> this thing is interesting
[04:54] <intelikey> alekz like i said the very first time.  you can format the disk without a partition but "i" would not recomend it.    reason "personal exp."
[04:54] <Falstius> Glossary: edit the file /etc/apache2/ports.conf
[04:55] <Falstius> change 80 to some other number (like 8000)
[04:55] <alekz> intelikey, can i send u priv msg ?
[04:55] <paul__> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[04:55] <paul__> tried for almost 3 hours now to get a tls/ssl client, this sucks
[04:55] <Falstius> then someone who wants your site needs to use the address http://212.36.210.6:8000/
[04:55] <intelikey> alekz bottom line it is your box, your software.  that makes you king on that issue.   do as you please.
[04:55] <mgcross> any idea what I need to do to record ram streams to disk? Kaffeine just crashes when I hit "record stream"
[04:55] <Falstius> you'll need to restart apache after changing that
[04:56] <lysis> ubotu cpkg
[04:56] <ubotu> lysis: Are you on ritalin?
[04:56] <lysis> yes.
[04:56] <mgcross> I'm trying to save some nes broadcasts for my students
[04:56] <mgcross> *net
[04:56] <oxez> paul__: http://lftp.yar.ru/features.html
[04:56] <Glossary> Falstius, there is no ports.conf and no apache2
[04:56] <oxez> paul__: a little google brought me there
[04:56] <Glossary> and in /apache/ there is no ports.conf :s
[04:57] <Falstius> Glossary: you're running an older version of apache than I am
[04:57] <Falstius> for you in should be a line in /etc/apache/apache.conf or some such
[04:57] <Glossary> Falstius, i just downloaded it...
[04:57] <intelikey> alekz "linux native."
[04:57] <Falstius> Glossary: it is common for a group to start a "version 2" with lots of changes while still actively working on version 1.
[04:57] <Glossary> Falstius,
[04:57] <Glossary> ubuntu@ubuntu:/etc/apache$ ls
[04:57] <Glossary> access.conf  conf.d  httpd.conf  mime.types  modules.conf  srm.conf
[04:58] <roberto_> hi, i was installing a prog but got stuck her:
[04:58] <roberto_> checking for kde-config... not found
[04:58] <roberto_> configure: error: The important program kde-config was not found!
[04:58] <roberto_> Please check whether you installed KDE correctly.
[04:58] <roberto_> can anyone help me?
[04:58] <intelikey> gkparted ?
[04:59] <Falstius> Glossary: look for "port" in httpd.conf
[04:59] <Glossary> Falstius, Listen?
[04:59] <Falstius> Glossary: that's it
[04:59] <Glossary> # Listen: Allows you to bind Apache to specific IP addresses and/or
[05:00] <tag> fr500: Is hula supposed to use PAM?
[05:00] <fr500> no
[05:00] <intelikey> roberto_ do you have kde installed ?
[05:00] <tag> fr500: how do I create a user?
[05:00] <nicholasw> Hello!!
[05:00] <fr500> from the web interface
[05:01] <braniff> is there some way built into ubuntu "Breezy Badger" to use WPA for wifi ??
[05:01] <tag> fr500: I can't seem to find it
[05:01] <foampeace> hi
[05:01] <moshe> is there a graphical tool for formatting a newly installed second hard drive?
[05:01] <foampeace> we support you
[05:01] <XiCillin> moshe, gparted
[05:01] <fr500> tag: if you already installed you should run sudo hulasetup --domain=yourdomain.com --dns=yourresolver
[05:01] <moshe> apt-get, here I come
[05:01] <hobbes_> hey, I'm trying to install vlc but I can't edit etc/apt/sources.list
[05:01] <fr500> and the sudo /etc/init.d/hula restart
[05:01] <intelikey> np
[05:01] <tag> fr500: I did.
[05:01] <tag> fr500: and I'm in the web interface
[05:02] <fr500> at :89?
[05:02] <Glossary> Falstius, http://212.36.210.6:8000
[05:02] <Glossary> does it work?
[05:02] <tag> fr500: yes
[05:02] <fr500> ok
[05:02] <fr500> then there is a context
[05:02] <fr500> open it
[05:02] <tag> right
[05:02] <Falstius> Glossary: yep
[05:02] <fr500> now on the right and bottom, there should be a new or create button
[05:03] <Glossary> Falstius, everyone who wants to connect to it must put the port????
[05:03] <tag> Oh shit there we go
[05:03] <fr500> tag????
[05:03] <intelikey> !language
[05:03] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, intelikey
[05:03] <shinu> robotgeek: do i just grab the rufus sources and 'python btdownloadgui.py'?
[05:03] <Falstius> Glossary: yes.  One thing you can do is sign up with a dynamic ip service (many of them offer a free service).  Some of them will redirect port 80 to whatever port you have to get around this problem.
[05:03] <hobbes_> I'm having trouble downloading vlc using apt-get
[05:04] <robotgeek> shinu: i thin python rufus
[05:04] <Falstius> Glossary: check dyndns for one.
[05:04] <robotgeek> shinu: python rufus.py
[05:04] <Glossary> Falstius, i have a domain name with DNS support.. thats cool thanks man ;)
[05:04] <hobbes_> I tried to add the servers to sources.list but I can only open it in read only
[05:04] <shinu> robotgeek: hm... still dumping some errors :/
[05:04] <Falstius> no problem.  now I go to bed.
[05:04] <tag> fr500: thanks.
[05:04] <robotgeek> shinu: hmm, weird
[05:04] <tim> hey does anyone have a sec to answer a question for a noob real quick...
[05:05] <intelikey> !ask
[05:05] <Glossary> Falstius, ok one more thing
[05:05] <fr500> tag you gotta allow some hosts to be able to use pop and smtp from clients
[05:05] <fr500> ask in #hula in any case
[05:05] <bimberi> hobbes_: use sudo with the command to edit the file
[05:05] <Glossary> Falstius, i need serious help in this matter.. how can i install "cPanel" on my webserver and how can i edit change add users to it??
[05:05] <hobbes_> bimberi, I did but it just opened up a fresh file
[05:05] <Falstius> Glossary: I don't know what cPanel is sorry.
[05:05] <tim> ok im about an hour into linux...frankly im lost.. but i need a windows emulator...i was told about one that starts with a C i believe...can anyone shed some light on this for me?
[05:05] <bimberi> hobbes_: what was the command?
[05:06] <Glossary> Falstius, ok can you tell me where to put the files i want to host so people can see them ?
[05:06] <hobbes_> bimberi, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:06] <intelikey> cedege
[05:06] <nicholasw> Cadega?
[05:06] <tim> THATS IT
[05:06] <tim> thank you
[05:06] <intelikey> cadega ok
[05:06] <paul__> does cadega run on 64bit
[05:06] <bur[n] er> it's cedega
[05:07] <paul__> without creating a 32bit chroot?
[05:07] <intelikey> tim you can look at 'wine' also
[05:07] <tim> is one better then the other?
[05:07] <bimberi> hobbes_: hm, that looks fine.  Maybe the file is empty.  Grab a fresh copy ...
[05:07] <bimberi> !sources
[05:07] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:07] <Falstius> Glossary: usually /var/www
[05:07] <Falstius> Glossary: but you can look in /etc/apache/httpd.conf to make sure
[05:07] <roberto_> intelikey: no i have gnome,
[05:08] <Falstius> Glossary: it should be called "Document Root" or some such.
[05:08] <Falstius> g'night.
[05:08] <Glossary> Falstius, aight man thanks alot ;)
[05:08] <hobbes_> bimberi, the sources.list file has data in it, I just can't edit it
[05:08] <intelikey> roberto_ well the error message says that whatever you are installing requires kde and can't find it.
[05:08] <intelikey> simple fix, install kde.
[05:09] <roberto_> intelikey: cant there be any other way of installing it that doesnt requiere KDE, sorry second day with linux and having a hard time
[05:09] <intelikey> sudo apt-get install kdebase
[05:10] <bimberi> hobbes_: it should be editable with sudo, unless the file attributes have been changed.  Does "lsattr /etc/apt/sources.list" output anything other than lots of -'s plus the filename?
[05:10] <intelikey> roberto_ unless you want to hack the code, no.
[05:10] <shinu> robotgeek: ah... it neede .Rufus/ in my homedir :D
[05:10] <robotgeek> shinu: hmm, i am not sure what went wrong. it worked ootb for me
[05:10] <foampeace> can i accelerate dialup somehow?
[05:10] <roberto_> ok thanks
[05:11] <intelikey> an app that depends on 'blah'  must have 'blah' installed.   that's why they call it 'depending on'
[05:11] <misfit_toy> foampeace, yes, throw your wallet at it
[05:11] <hobbes_> bimberi, it outputs this ----------------- /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:11] <nicholasw> I HATE dial-up.
[05:11] <nicholasw> I have it.
[05:11] <shinu> robotgeek: well i didnt install it maybe, i just unzipped and ran it
[05:11] <robotgeek> shinu: maybe
[05:11] <foampeace> misfit_toy: i tried...but the moths ate it
[05:11] <bimberi> hobbes_: that's fine.  so what happens whe you try to save it after "sudo gedit ..."
[05:11] <bimberi> ?
[05:11] <misfit_toy> foampeace, you need a better wallet, upgrade time! ;p
[05:11] <watnu> ouf
[05:12] <Glossary> Whats the best HTML Editor for Ubuntu ??
[05:12] <user_> Hello
[05:12] <hobbes_> bimberi, "could not save ect..."
[05:12] <intelikey> nicholasw if you hate dialup.  simply unplug the phone wire from your box.      personally i like dialup, cause i keep using it.  :)
[05:12] <nicholasw> I like it better than nothing.
[05:13] <nicholasw> And there is no dsl in my area!
[05:13] <intelikey> there ya go
[05:13] <ice_1963> lol :0)
[05:13] <user_> I need uninstall the kernell for install another kernel image
[05:13] <misfit_toy> and there is a diff between FREE dialup and PAID dialup
[05:13] <user_> some one can help me plase'
[05:13] <nicholasw> I have paid dial-up!
[05:13] <foampeace> its my moms puter k, its not for throwing money at
[05:14] <misfit_toy> foampeace, then be real nice to mom and request cable for xmas
[05:14] <bimberi> hobbes_: baffling. would any other process have the file open "sudo lsof /etc/apt/sources.list"
[05:14] <regeya> however, I'm the 'admin' at work, so I can get away with using apt-zip on the clock
[05:14] <foampeace> misfit_toy: except that mom only uses it to check her email here at her place
[05:14] <misfit_toy> intelikey, no, it's Sinatra's world, we all just live here
[05:14] <nicholasw> The only thing I can get is satallite and it's lik 100 per month for like 98kb/s download.
[05:14] <tim> so do i have to download cedega through the package manager?....or do i have to go download it
[05:14] <misfit_toy> foampeace, have a rich uncle?
[05:15] <tim> please bare with me while i ask some stupid questions
[05:15] <foampeace> misfit_toy: lol why?
[05:15] <nicholasw> I doubt that any package depositories have it, tim.
[05:15] <misfit_toy> foampeace, maybe he would help ya to upgrade yer mom's dialup junk.
[05:15] <nicholasw> I think you need to buy a subscription to download.
[05:16] <foampeace> misfit_toy: good idea...ill beg and plead
[05:16] <nicholasw> Are you planning on running DirectX games with it?
[05:16] <misfit_toy> foampeace, that's always a good xmas thing to do! :)
[05:16] <foampeace> misfit_toy: hehehe
[05:16] <tim> yeah
[05:16] <intelikey> tim if it is in the repos you use apt-get/synaptic/aptitude if not you dl and hope it installs correctly (read the README's & INSTALLer files)
[05:17] <nicholasw> It doesn't work as well as windows.
[05:17] <hobbes_> bimberi, that doesn't return anything
[05:17] <watnu> i am going to smoke some weed now
[05:17] <nicholasw> That's why I keep windows around.
[05:17] <ice_1963> tim what program are you trying to run on your linux box ??
[05:17] <bimberi> hobbes_: well i'm out of ideas then sorry :/
[05:17] <user_> someone know how can i uninstall the kernell
[05:17] <user_> ??
[05:17] <hobbes_> well....shit
[05:17] <intelikey> and last time i checked cedega was un-free.
[05:17] <salmenara> Inside the home user, I have mounted a partition, how can I access through SAMBA ???
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> moo?
[05:18] <nicholasw> Just by games that actually run on linux.
[05:18] <mtupper> anybody here running xmail?
[05:18] <robotgeek> bur[n] er: hmm, i think u /msg'ed me by mistake
[05:18] <user_> i must inastall another kernel by apt-get install
[05:18] <nicholasw> Like Unreal Tournament, and Quake 4.
[05:18] <intelikey> user ahhh have you installed another kernel ?
[05:18] <Glossary> Whats the best HTML Editor for Ubuntu ??
[05:18] <foampeace> what did you ask santy for xmas
[05:18] <hobbes_> GEDIT
[05:18] <user_> no
[05:18] <tim> I have a couple older games...(meaning older system) C&C renegade being one of them
[05:18] <nicholasw> Vi.
[05:18] <user_> i want uninstall the kernel
[05:18] <user_> and after install new kernel image
[05:18] <watnu> joe or vi
[05:19] <robotgeek> Glossary: bluefish too, though i use vim
[05:19] <ice_1963> hmm
[05:19] <user_> can you help me?
[05:19] <bimberi> hobbes_: try another editor - sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list (in a terminal)
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> user_,  install the new one first
[05:19] <nicholasw> Vi is the best text editor of all time.
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> user_,  then reboot and use it.
[05:19] <user_> know i taked the medicine for slip and i'm total din don din don
[05:19] <ice_1963> don't no that one
[05:19] <_image_> im having modem problems can anyone here help?
[05:19] <tim> its an fps
[05:19] <watnu> its like wordstar
[05:19] <hobbes_> bimberi, crap, man, it just started working with gedit
[05:20] <intelikey> user_ well 'sudo dpkg remove linux<blah> '   and tell it 'yes, do as i say!'   and i hope you know what you are doing.
[05:20] <foampeace> nicholasw: vi better then vim?
[05:20] <nicholasw> I might be able to help you, _image_
[05:20] <_image_> cool
[05:20] <nicholasw> It's all the same, fromthepeace
[05:20] <shinu> robotgeek: i keep getting weird errors when im trying to do 'sh install' in rufus
[05:20] <nicholasw> Woah shit@
[05:20] <watnu> yawnz
[05:20] <nicholasw> I really screwd up you nick!
[05:20] <Glossary> robotgeek, hobbes_  i dont need TEXT editors.. HTML editors.
[05:20] <robotgeek> shinu: lemme see
[05:20] <_image_> im running ver 5.04 and it doesnt recognize my modem at all
[05:20] <Glossary> like Microsoft FrontPage...
[05:20] <bimberi> hobbes_: crap indeed
[05:20] <nicholasw> Is it actually a modem?
[05:20] <shinu> robotgeek: i should be doing sudo sh install right?
[05:20] <bimberi> :)
[05:20] <Glossary> or DreamWeaver .. is there sumthin like that for Linux ?
[05:21] <nicholasw> Or is it a winmodem?
[05:21] <_image_> yes it is a modem blaster
[05:21] <_image_> not a winmodem
[05:21] <user_> apt-get install linux-image-2.6.12-10-k7
[05:21] <user_> :)
[05:21] <robotgeek> shinu: yu can run python rufus.py & it shud work
[05:21] <shinu> robotgeek: i just wanted to install it
[05:21] <hobbes_> and shit, I STILL can't get vlc with it
[05:21] <nicholasw> Through which bus is it connected?
[05:22] <shinu> robotgeek: i guess i can just hide it somewhere and link it :P
[05:22] <_image_> pci
[05:22] <bimberi> hobbes_: "sudo apt-get update" first?
[05:22] <intelikey> _image_ run wvdialconf and see if it can find the modem,  it's pretty good with modems.
[05:22] <hobbes_> bimberi, yep
[05:22] <w00tir> hey can anyone direct me to info about how to enable my logitech usb speakers under ubuntu? dmesg tells me it finds them. usb in general is working(ie my wireless usb mouse is working) thanks alot
[05:22] <paul__> is there anyway to run a windows program (flashfxp) _without_ creating a 32bit chroot on a 64bit instance of ubuntu?
[05:22] <MrPockets> can XMMS play CDs?
[05:22] <hobbes_> bimberi, I'm following this page http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-debian.html
[05:22] <nicholasw> Can you see it in the output of lspci?
[05:22] <_image_> where do i get it?
[05:22] <crimsun> paul__: no.
[05:23] <w00tir> and also amarok is claiming it cant play mp3s, tho xmms plays them. any ideas?
[05:23] <intelikey> paul__ i don't think so.
[05:23] <crimsun> hobbes_: not vlc in universe?
[05:23] <paul__> seems like a lot of farting around for just 1 program to be run
[05:23] <crimsun> w00tir: install gstreamer0.8-mad
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> hmm ive never even SEEN usb speakers.
[05:23] <bimberi> hobbes_: vlc is in the ubuntu universe repository ...
[05:23] <hobbes_> oh
[05:23] <nicholasw> Does amarok do m4a's yet?
[05:23] <bimberi> ubotu tell hobbes_ about repos
[05:23] <crimsun> MrPockets: yes, it can.
[05:23] <w00tir> dr_willis: i bought some the other day
[05:23] <user_> kernel is upgrade
[05:23] <tim> thanks for the help everyone lates.../lets see if i can screw this up in my first hour of having it :S
[05:23] <user_> no
[05:23] <intelikey> gnight crimsun
[05:23] <user_> kernel is installed
[05:23] <crimsun> 'night, intelikey
[05:24] <MrPockets> crimsun, do i need an addon or how so?
[05:24] <user_> e grub is updated
[05:24] <user_> now??
[05:24] <Glossary> Guys How can i install mySQL and PHP3 to my apache? or does it come with it
[05:24] <simon_amarok> Hi again: does anyone know why I might lack the file libstdc++.la ?  I am trying to build amarok from the svn and it can't find this file
[05:24] <freelove> help me! i cant boot windows! my problem is very similar to this but with ubuntu http://portal.suse.com/sdb/en/2004/05/fhassel_windows_not_booting91.html
[05:24] <foampeace> is there a good web site maker?
[05:24] <foampeace> spomething small and simple
[05:24] <freelove> my bro will format my lnux if i dont fix this!
[05:24] <oxez> foampeace: nvu or bluefish!
[05:25] <simon_amarok> okay, i'm going to take a break
[05:25] <crimsun> MrPockets: no, just configure the cdda preferences to use digital audio extraction
[05:25] <foampeace> oxez: bluefish is smaller
[05:25] <oxez> yes
[05:25] <foampeace> oxez: why might nvu be bigger?
[05:25] <oxez> foampeace: nvu is a WYSIWYG
[05:26] <oxez> You have an integrated browser with nvu iirc
[05:26] <dcj028> hi i have a question about installing java runtime environment on my ubuntu 5.4 for my hp laptop and mozilla firefox
[05:26] <Glossary> Does MySQL and PHP3 come WITH apache???
[05:26] <foampeace> iirc?
[05:26] <w00tir> php3 is way outdated
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> Glossary,  no
[05:26] <dcj028> i cannot seem to find j2re file that will work
[05:27] <oxez> foampeace: if i remember correctly
[05:27] <Glossary> Dr_Willis, no what?
[05:27] <bimberi> dcj028: http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/
[05:27] <Glossary> Dr_Willis, if they dont come with it.. h ow can i install them?
[05:27] <foampeace> oxez: cool
[05:27] <dcj028> anyone have any suggestions? I also cannot seem to get the .mp3 and other media codects to install properly
[05:27] <ice_1963> you need fakeroot for java
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> Glossary,  of course you can.
[05:27] <bimberi> ubotu tell dcj028 about mp3
[05:28] <w00tir> let me try to ask differently, how can i tell ubuntu to not use my laptop speaker and rather use the usb ones? which show up in lsusb and dmesg
[05:28] <Glossary> Dr_Willis, ok how can i??
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> Glossary,  install stuff? well. thers Synaptic. thats normally how ya isntall stuff with ubuntu.
[05:28] <paul__> is it possible to create smb shares that are both read/writeable by a windows machine on the network?
[05:29] <lysis> how do i install a .deb file?
[05:29] <dcj028> thanks bimberi
[05:29] <hobbes_> thanks bim
[05:29] <bimberi> lysis: sudo dpkg -i <file>
[05:29] <bimberi> dcj028: np :)
[05:29] <Glossary> ok dude ! but specifically how can i install mySQL and PHP3 ?
[05:29] <bimberi> hobbes_: np :)
[05:29] <ice_1963> sudo install fakeroot java-package
[05:29] <bushito> i downloaded the kubuntu desktop, and when i rebooted i got the KDM, but the splash screen and the desktop are still gnome how can i change to KDE?? (O_o)
[05:30] <nicholasw> I HATE kde.
[05:30] <paul__> i hate gnome
[05:30] <lysis> bimberi, thanks a lot!
[05:30] <paul__> ;\
[05:30] <bimberi> lysis: np :)
[05:30] <SlowAndSadAgony> hello
[05:30] <nicholasw> I LOVE gnome!
[05:30] <bushito> lol i didnt aks who like or dislike i asked for help xP
[05:30] <nicholasw> and enlightenment.
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> Glossary,  fire up synaptic, click on them from the list.. and hit apply.. you proberly want to go to the ubuntu wikis and read up on mysql and php3
[05:30] <optish> in xubuntu/xfce what file do I edit to make xscreensaver daemon always start for all users?
[05:30] <ice_1963> sudo fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_03-linux-i586.bin
[05:30] <SlowAndSadAgony> i have installed a new kernel
[05:31] <bimberi> SlowAndSadAgony: something tells me something's wrong :P
[05:31] <SlowAndSadAgony> and i want uninstall the last versione
[05:31] <SlowAndSadAgony> :))
[05:31] <SlowAndSadAgony> stupid
[05:31] <SlowAndSadAgony> :))
[05:32] <ice_1963> sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update03_i386.deb
[05:32] <bimberi> SlowAndSadAgony: you can leave them there, just don't boot into them
[05:32] <SlowAndSadAgony> no
[05:32] <shinu> robotgeek: is it possible for rufus to write on fat32 fs?
[05:32] <SlowAndSadAgony> i do not want old kernel in the /boot directory
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> SlowAndSadAgony,  then fire up synapatic and uninstall it them....
[05:32] <robotgeek> shinu: i am not sure, but i should be able to
[05:33] <SlowAndSadAgony> and my friend toll me tath delete the file iis a bad idea
[05:33] <SlowAndSadAgony> and there is some command for make that
[05:33] <ice_1963> :0)
[05:33] <god> Why can't I export a DISPLAY on a remote computer and have the display equal my IP address and it won't display on my machine. I've done "DissallowTCP=false" on both machines, too.
[05:33] <bimberi> SlowAndSadAgony: it is, because if something goes wrong with the new kernel you take away the opportunity to use the old one
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> SlowAndSadAgony,  To install and remove software in ubuntu you nornally use synaptic.
[05:33] <bushito> eehh downloaded kubuntu desktop, and still no KDE desktop help??
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> god,  may need to use 'xhost + ip#  ' or similer.
[05:35] <god> Dr_Willis:  Tried that
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> god,  you are telneting to the remote box? or ssh?
[05:35] <shinu> robotgeek: i got it again... it didnt want to creat ~/Rufus by itself ... >_>'
[05:35] <god> Dr_Willis:  ssh
[05:36] <robotgeek> shinu: ahh, i think i had it from a previous install
[05:36] <regeya> gdm keeps telling me that permissions are set wrong on .dmrc, even though they're not.
[05:36] <freelove2> sorry got disconnected....any help?
[05:36] <shinu> robotgeek: ok, thanks a lot! i think im going sleep now :)
[05:36] <regeya> and I want to go off on a homicidal rage, but I have no idea who's responsible
[05:36] <regeya> s/homicidal rage/rant/
[05:37] <SlowAndSadAgony>    vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-386
[05:37] <robotgeek> shinu: later
[05:37] <bimberi> god: ssh -x ?
[05:37] <SlowAndSadAgony> i want uninstall that image
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> god,  you using 'ssh -x' or somthing like that? i dident think ya had to export the display doing it that way
[05:37] <SlowAndSadAgony> that kernel
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> SlowAndSadAgony,  yea. tried to  fire up synaptic and  uninstall it?
[05:38] <god> Still doesn't work
[05:38] <SlowAndSadAgony> root@host:/boot# synaptic image-kernel-2.6.12-9-386
[05:38] <SlowAndSadAgony> Another synaptic is running. Trying to bring it to the foreground
[05:38] <paul__> some things i'm viewing are out of wack example ./pftp and ./gl_spy
[05:38] <paul__> both cli guis and they are not displaying properly.. how can i fix?
[05:38] <Lewix> is someone can dcc me the dvd iso of ubuntu
[05:38] <SlowAndSadAgony> Dr_Willis, can you make correction please?
[05:38] <Lewix> :P
[05:38] <Lewix> does*
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> SlowAndSadAgony,  now is the time for you to go read some docs on how to use synaptic..
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> sudo synaptic
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> then use the nice gui.
[05:39] <SlowAndSadAgony> i know
[05:39] <paul__> lewix, how fast is your connection?
[05:39] <bimberi> SlowAndSadAgony: remove the package linux-image-2.6.12-9-386
[05:39] <Lewix> I can't find it
[05:39] <Lewix> fast
[05:39] <SlowAndSadAgony> but i taked medicine for sleep
[05:39] <Lewix> 500/1000kb
[05:39] <SlowAndSadAgony> is like narcotic
[05:39] <SlowAndSadAgony> sorry
[05:40] <joshmo23> can we ask for help here, or is there another chan for that?
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> joshmo23,  we try to help here.
[05:40] <joshmo23> ok :)
[05:40] <joshmo23> umm
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> joshmo23,  some days we even  manage to help!
[05:40] <joshmo23> hehe
[05:40] <odat> anyone know of a repository with museek?
[05:40] <w00tir> does ubuntu ahve something like sndconfig?
[05:41] <joshmo23> I've been wanting to run ubuntu on my pc now, and so I downloaded the dvd verion of the latest ubuntu, but it won't install
[05:41] <joshmo23> It will hang
[05:42] <Lewix> I don't have anymore blank cd so I need to dl the dvd iso, but I can't find it at all..all links are down and with bittorents it's too slow
[05:42] <joshmo23> when starting up my hardrive it looks like
[05:42] <optish> what file can i edit to make xscreensaver start for all users...i tried /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc?
[05:43] <joshmo23> any ideas why?
[05:43] <Glossary> Guys can anybody tell me how to install PHP and mySQL ??
[05:44] <Lewix> arf
[05:44] <Lewix> it's a bit unprofessional that all the links are down
[05:45] <optish> Glossary, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#sect-database-server and if you scroll down a little info about PHP
[05:45] <joshmo23> all links are up for me Lewix
[05:45] <Lewix> what
[05:45] <Glossary> optish, thanks
[05:45] <Lewix> are you serious ?
[05:45] <misfit_toy> Lewix, why is your torrent slow? do you have the proper bittorent ports open and forwarded?
[05:45] <Lewix> dunno
[05:45] <frogzoo> freelove  u fix your grub trouble?
[05:45] <Lewix> I didnt set anything
[05:45] <Lewix> I use bittorent
[05:45] <joshmo23> well, for the "ubuntu-5.10-dvd-i386.iso "
[05:45] <Lewix> bitcomet*
[05:45] <joshmo23> on a euro server
[05:46] <Lewix> joshmo23: give me the link please
[05:46] <misfit_toy> Lewix, so you're on windows now?
[05:46] <joshmo23> k
[05:46] <Lewix> yep
[05:46] <paul__> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, the blue screen that comes up is out of order
[05:46] <Lewix> I want to try ubuntu
[05:46] <joshmo23> http://ie.releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-cdimage/releases/5.10/release/ubuntu-5.10-dvd-i386.iso
[05:46] <misfit_toy> ^^
[05:46] <paul__> i.e its not being displayed correctly, i'm assuing its got something to do with the emulation of the terminal window or something similar?
[05:46] <joshmo23> getting ~150KB/s
[05:46] <SlowAndSadAgony> perfect
[05:46] <god> Dr_Willis:  Sorry, still doesn't work.
[05:46] <Lewix> damn when I save the file
[05:46] <Lewix> it doesnt even download
[05:47] <SlowAndSadAgony> the kernel is removed
[05:47] <paul__> 10.82M/s
[05:47] <paul__> from that link
[05:47] <paul__> hehe
[05:47] <Lewix> yep well all links are like that
[05:47] <joshmo23> try a different download manager/browser
[05:48] <w00tir> the volume control in ubuntu finds my usb speakers, they event react to muting and such. how to make linux/ubuntu/xmms use that device?
[05:48] <Lewix> joshmo23: ussually it works I
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> god,  what dosent? i got a short attention span. :P and a small log buffer
[05:48] <joshmo23> well, I'm off to firgure out this problem on my own :(
[05:48] <joshmo23> *figure ><
[05:48] <Lewix> misfit_toy: what do I have to set up in bitcomet ?
[05:48] <god> Dr_Willis:  When I ssh into a remote machine and I can't display things even when I do -x
[05:49] <misfit_toy> Lewix, hell if I know, that's windows
[05:49] <freelove2> Lewix: try kubuntu too.....kde is better;)
[05:50] <Lewix> arf
[05:50] <Lewix> its on my nerves
[05:51] <ice_1963> i kaffeine in kde but i run it in gnome
[05:51] <SlowAndSadAgony> i whant install the rest of ubuntu cd
[05:51] <SlowAndSadAgony> bat i have only the firsth
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> god,  hmm.. could be the ssh server config is overriding the setting.
[05:51] <god> Dr_Willis:  I'll figure it out tomorrow with my admin, but I have to go. See ya
[05:52] <SlowAndSadAgony> someone know how can i install all ubuntu cd using apt ?
[05:53] <SlowAndSadAgony> i have only the firsth
[05:53] <Lewix> pff i understand the issue now
[05:53] <Lewix> internet explorer opened it with http
[05:53] <Lewix> instead of ftp
[05:53] <Lewix> so I had to type it manualy
[05:53] <Lewix> it sucks
[05:54] <freelove2> win sucks, kubuntu rocks;)
[05:54] <Lewix> finally, its a good decision to change
[05:55] <SlowAndSadAgony> I suck e go Tekno party
[05:55] <SlowAndSadAgony> and
[05:55] <SlowAndSadAgony> :P
[05:56] <polochica> hey all, i'm new to ubuntu. in my current drive to make my computer work the way i want it to for once, i'm playing around with different window managers. i now have fluxbox and enlightenment. about all i can figure out how to do is open xterm in fluxbox.  how do i make menu's for all my apps? or can i import the menu's from metacity/gnome?
[05:56] <Kyral> polochica: install the menu package
[05:56] <j1> hey all
[05:56] <j1> HObbsee!!!
[05:57] <j1> how aryou?
[05:57] <polochica> is that through synaptic or online somewhere?
[05:57] <ice_1963> do you have java runing in kde yet?
[05:57] <Hobbsee> hey j1 - someone just killed off our power, and we just got it back
[05:57] <Kyral> polochica: Synaptic/Apt
[05:57] <polochica> thank you!
[05:57] <j1> thats bad, but then good
[05:57] <j1> hows the weather 'down under'?
[05:57] <Kyral> then open a terminal and do update-menus
[05:57] <Vaske_Car> Can PIII 450Mhz with 256mb Sdram work as server with Ubuntu?
[05:57] <SlowAndSadAgony> how can i install al ubuntu package by APT ???
[05:57] <j1> Vaske, i'm going to guess...  YES
[05:58] <Kyral> ubotu tell SlowAndSadAgony about apt
[05:58] <Hobbsee> j1: hot
[05:58] <j1> it's cold here Hobbsee
[05:58] <j1> gonna be icy tomorrow
[05:58] <Kyral> SlowAndSadAgony: see what Ubotu just told you
[05:58] <Silencer> how to enable java in firefox ?
[05:58] <Hobbsee> fun
[05:58] <Kyral> ubotu tell Silencer about SunJava
[05:58] <M_Wettendorff> when i try to run this command : dpkg -i sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb in the terminal, i get dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[05:58] <Tom_> I am new to linux How do you install software, I don't see a setup file or install?
[05:59] <j1> anyone know how to decrypt DVD files (CSS) in GNU/Linux?
[05:59] <M_Wettendorff> anyone that can help me with that
[05:59] <Kyral> ubotu tell Tom_ about apt
[05:59] <vejan> hi all!!!!!
[05:59] <Kyral> Tom_: see what Ubotu told you
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> j1,  ive used dvd:rip befor  and transcode. (well dvd:rip used transcode)
[05:59] <Silencer> thx
[05:59] <Kyral> or you can use Add/Remove programs in the Menus
[05:59] <ice_1963> ok
[06:00] <SlowAndSadAgony> ok io go
[06:00] <Cornellius> Tom_: terminal, su, password, Synaptic
[06:00] <SlowAndSadAgony> tks for all
[06:00] <SlowAndSadAgony> by
[06:00] <Vaske_Car> Can I upgrade 5.08 to 5.10 without loosing data and server configurations?
[06:00] <SlowAndSadAgony> good night
[06:00] <Kyral> Cornellius: no su
[06:00] <Kyral> sudo!
[06:00] <freelove2> M_Wettendorff: make it sudo dpkg............
[06:00] <j1> dvd:rip, OK
[06:00] <Tom_> Thats all greek to me.
[06:00] <Vaske_Car> Will Breezy offer that option during installation?
[06:00] <crimsun> Vaske_Car: if you mean 5.04, yes
[06:00] <j1> thanks Doctor
[06:00] <Vaske_Car> yes 5.04
[06:00] <vejan> how can I get ubuntu to mount my windoze partition?
[06:00] <ice_1963> sudo su :0)
[06:00] <j1> 767676
[06:01] <Kyral> ice_1963: su bad
[06:01] <Kyral> sudo!
[06:01] <Kyral> sudo gooood :D
[06:01] <ice_1963> ok
[06:01] <Vaske_Car> crimsun is there any stability improvement in 5.10 that can effect server?
[06:01] <ice_1963> if you say so
[06:01] <Kyral> Tom_: Before you ask, the password is your userpass
[06:01] <crimsun> Vaske_Car: I find 5.10 more stable than 5.04, yes
[06:01] <w00tir> ok i figured it out
[06:01] <Vaske_Car> tx
[06:02] <w00tir> tanks for not asnwering :p
[06:02] <w00tir> i learned something
[06:02] <fr33mind> New install.. for my second user I've created, I don't have sound in gxine.  (But I have sound in global gnome)
[06:02] <M_Wettendorff> thanks alot
[06:03] <vejan> how can I get ubuntu to mount my windoze partition?
[06:03] <bimberi> M_Wettendorff: did you get an answer?  sudo <command>
[06:03] <bimberi> ubotu tell vejan about mountwindows
[06:03] <crimsun> fr33mind: does aplay work as the second user?
[06:03] <Kyral> ubotu tell vejan about ntfs
[06:04] <Tom_> Is linux for everyday users or people who really know what they are doing?
[06:04] <fr33mind> crimsun: I don't know aplay
[06:04] <paul__> Tom_, imo it depends on what you are doing
[06:04] <Epic> The latter
[06:04] <fr33mind> Also, I would like to know how to add mplayer in ubuntu
[06:05] <Silencer> ubuntu tell silencer about w32codecs
[06:05] <Tom_> Surfing the net email word processing
[06:05] <ice_1963> who can send me w32codecs i need it pl
[06:05] <paul__> its fine, but if you already have a windows lisence i'd stick with it imo
[06:06] <paul__> like, atm i use ubuntu for some stuff, but i'm still using my vmware session of windows more than i thought i would have to
[06:06] <Tom_> Later.
[06:06] <Cornellius> Tom_: Mozilla Firefox for the internet, Abiword or OpenOffice.org for documents, Mozilla Thunderbird
[06:07] <bimberi> ubotu tell ice_1963 about w32codecs
[06:07] <Tom_> how do you install new firefox
[06:07] <Tom_> 1.5
[06:07] <Tom_> That seems to be a very simple task but I'm lost
[06:07] <bimberi> ubotu tell ice_1963 about firefox1.5
[06:07] <j1> Tom, you can make the switch if you want to
[06:07] <Vaske_Car> Why Ubuntu does not include Opera as default web browser and email client? Its free now.
[06:07] <j1> its worth the effor, IMO
[06:08] <Arie_> Hi
[06:08] <bimberi> ubotu tell Tom_ about firefox1.5
[06:08] <Arie_> Can someone help me with ndiswrapper?
[06:08] <bimberi> sry ice_1963 you probably didn't want that one :)
[06:08] <j1> If you still need some windows apps, use win4lin
[06:08] <fr33mind> I don't have sound in gxine.  (But I have sound in global gnome)
[06:08] <j1> Arie, I have a good article about the use of ndiswrapper
[06:08] <j1> you want it,
[06:08] <Arie_> sure
[06:08] <j1> it is in .pdf format
[06:08] <j1> your email addr
[06:09] <Arie_> my issue right now is that i can't get it to find the inf file
[06:09] <ClayG> anyone know the cli command to set up new software?l
[06:09] <ClayG> like to get the computer to recognize an ethernet card that is just put in after install?
[06:09] <Arie_> can you just help me with that?
[06:09] <freelove1> ClayG: use synaptic:)
[06:09] <Silencer> any serbian ppl here ?
[06:09] <j1> i have only set it up once
[06:09] <j1> it was hard
[06:09] <j1> i downloaded drivers from the net, not from the winCD
[06:10] <j1> what type of adapter is it?
[06:10] <ClayG> I think that requires xwindows
[06:10] <ClayG> I only have cli
[06:11] <Arie_> i got the driver
[06:11] <Arie_> i just don't know how to direct ndiswrapper to the inf file
[06:11] <varsendagger> hey you guys are awesome
[06:11] <j1> you should read the article I used to set it up
[06:12] <mrkoje> I got my ubuntu CD's today. ONly took them 2 weeks to ship
[06:12] <mrkoje> They spent 5 euros on shipping which suprises me... thats a lot of money for just me.
[06:13] <j1> Arie, what is your email addddr
[06:13] <crimsun> Arie_: ndiswrapper -i /path/to/some.inf
[06:13] <j1> i will send you a good .pdf
[06:13] <Arie_> it's ok i think i did it
[06:14] <ledh> Hey PPL!!!
[06:14] <j1> SEND Arie_ /home/jhealey/My Documents.LinuxVersion/tuxMagazine/TUX_Issue8_November2005.pdf
[06:14] <ice_1963> hey
[06:14] <ledh> I need some help around here...
[06:14] <ledh> =(
[06:14] <j1> \SEND Arie_ /home/jhealey/My Documents.LinuxVersion/tuxMagazine/TUX_Issue8_November2005.pdf
[06:14] <moshe> what's the command to reconfigure X?
[06:14] <j1> baa
[06:15] <Trashcan> lol
[06:15] <moshe> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[06:15] <Trashcan>  /
[06:15] <j1> i don't know how to send someone a dang file
[06:15] <j1> can someone help me do that?
[06:15] <M_Wettendorff> msg nickserv set email m.wettendorff@mail.dk
[06:15] <ledh> I need to update or upgrade my whole OS... applications and all that sort of things...
[06:15] <pepperjd> i can no longer access root account/root privilages after adding a second user.  need help.
[06:15] <Arie_> umm get firefox then install the chatzilla extension
[06:15] <simon_amarok> could anybody give me their "libstdc++.la" the latest libstdc++6-dev.deb is broken
[06:15] <simon_amarok> it doesn't have that file... which i need to compile amarok??
[06:16] <crimsun> simon_amarok: sudo apt-get build-dep amarok
[06:16] <j1> chatzilla? you talkling to me Arie?
[06:16] <simon_amarok> okay... trying that
[06:16] <ledh> I need to update or upgrade my whole OS... applications and all that sort of things...
[06:16] <ledh> how do i do it?
[06:16] <ledh> ='(
[06:16] <ice_1963> right click on the name ok
[06:16] <optish> how do i make xscreensaver start for all users?
[06:17] <j1> sudo apt-get update
[06:17] <Arie_> yeah j1
[06:17] <ledh> thanks!
[06:17] <ledh> how about OpenOffice?
[06:17] <ledh> my current version is 1.1.0
[06:17] <bimberi> ledh: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (after update)
[06:17] <bimberi> ledh: what OS are you running now?
[06:18] <ledh> Ubuntu 5.04
[06:18] <ledh> i dunno xDD
[06:18] <bimberi> ah
[06:18] <ledh> i'm a newby
[06:18] <bimberi> ubotu tell ledh about breezy
[06:18] <ledh> o.O
[06:19] <bimberi> ledh: you should get a /msg from ubotu with a link
[06:19] <fredforfaen> mornin suckers
[06:19] <ledh> got that...
[06:19] <ledh> what's that for anyway?
[06:19] <bimberi> ledh: instructions for upgrading to the current version of ubuntu (5.10 or "breezy")
[06:20] <jhealey> Aria
[06:20] <ledh> and... do i really need to do that?
[06:21] <ice_1963> what is a good firewall for gnome??
[06:21] <ulinskie> I have already downloaded libmms... in what folder will I install it?
[06:22] <j1> Are
[06:22] <j1> no go on shatsilla
[06:23] <j1> someone send me a file, please
[06:23] <j1> i want to test this client
[06:23] <chris86wm> hey guys, is there a program out there that can record live tv from my tv tuner in ubuntu?
[06:24] <MagicFab> has anyone used the paragon NTFS driver with U. ?
[06:24] <chris86wm> i have zapping up and running but there is no record option....
[06:25] <robotgeek> ulinskie: dpkg -L liblmms | less
[06:25] <joshmo23> anybody know why ubuntu is hanging on: [4294673.958000]  ata1: dev 0 cofigured for UDMA/33
[06:26] <ledh> I think i have a problem with my OS... suddenly the mouse begins to move ramdomly clicking all over the desktop closing applications and more... what should i do? is an installation error or what? >.<
[06:26] <aru> I almost responded to that, then realised this isnt the offtopic channel
[06:28] <germancito> Hello
[06:29] <ledh> I think i have a problem with my OS... suddenly the mouse begins to move ramdomly clicking all over the desktop closing applications and more... what should i do? is an installation error or what? >.<
[06:29] <Kyral> XP?
[06:29] <germancito> anyone here knows a web page that gives me my IP and just my IP???
[06:29] <ledh> Ubuntu
[06:29] <Kyral> germancito: do a ifconfig
[06:29] <Kyral> in a terminal
[06:30] <j1> hello all
[06:30] <j1> who is drunk?
[06:30] <j1> I amn't
[06:30] <germancito> i'm behind a router Kyral and ifconfig doesn't give anything i can use
[06:30] <j1> wish i was though
[06:30] <ice_1963> ledh that's to good lol :0)
[06:30] <Kyral> germancito: www.grc.com
[06:30] <ledh> =(
[06:30] <ledh> no it's not!
[06:30] <ledh> xDDD
[06:30] <ledh> actually... is really annoying! o.
[06:31] <Orborde> Should I report an Xfce problem on Ubuntu's Bugzilla?
[06:31] <j1> anyone know when the next ubuntu release is out?  (hairy beaver)
[06:31] <Kyral> hairy beaver? WTF
[06:31] <robotgeek> germancito: google for what's my ip
[06:32] <[adw] > april 06
[06:32] <germancito> kyral, I need something a lot simpler like a blank page jus't with my ip on it
[06:32] <j1> yeah, that is the name of the next release after bruisy badger
[06:32] <MagicFab> www.whatsmyip.com or whatismyip.com
[06:33] <germancito> robotgeek, I looked in google but those webs are too elaborated
[06:33] <germancito> I'm working on a script to wget that web and then show my ip in the terminal
[06:33] <germancito> but I need a simple web page with my IP
[06:34] <cenopec> can you use the ubuntu cd to restore the kernel without damaging the files i already have
[06:34] <leather_n_luv> after adding second user, i can no longer use root privilages. please help.
[06:35] <germancito> unless you guys know a better way to figure it out
[06:35] <ice_1963> why can't you apt-get install the new kernel-image
[06:36] <KeithWeisshar> why do i get error 15 in grub when i swap hd0 and hd1 from the bios
[06:36] <ice_1963> and uinstall old one
[06:37] <KeithWeisshar> i installed ubuntu on hdb and installed grub to the mbr of hdb
[06:37] <econquer> hi
[06:37] <KeithWeisshar> why do i get an error 15 in grub when i set the bios to boot from the slave drive
[06:38] <KeithWeisshar> i was trying to dual-boot using the bios ide drive configuration submenu
[06:38] <TheMuffenMann> does anyone know why in the GTK themes they have 'widget_class "*.whatever.*"' .. what are the asterisks for?
[06:38] <TheMuffenMann> in the gtkrc files for GTK that is..
[06:40] <leather_n_luv> after adding second user account, i can no longer access root privilages. please help.
[06:41] <TheMuffenMann> what is the new users UID?
[06:41] <brownie17> does anyone know why my specialty buttons on my keyboard (they are things like volume up) only work in gnome, but not in KDE?
[06:41] <dpupp> .msg nickserv id help
[06:42] <TheMuffenMann> i use KDE in Slackware but i have no idea why
[06:42] <leather_n_luv> can't find out
[06:42] <TheMuffenMann> leather: cant find what out?
[06:42] <ice_1963> i use gnome in Debian
[06:42] <brownie17> i am using a acer logitech USB keyboard that has play/pause, track+, track- and stop buttons on it. they do not work in KDE, but they do in Gnome. why?
[06:43] <leather_n_luv> the new users UID
[06:43] <TheMuffenMann> ok..well
[06:43] <TheMuffenMann> first, open a terminal and type
[06:43] <KeithWeisshar> when i use bios swapping i get an error when booting hdb
[06:43] <TheMuffenMann> sudo su
[06:43] <oxez> brownie17: you might want to check the keyboard settings in KDE, that's the only anwser I can give you since I do not have a special keyboard and I don't run KDE..
[06:43] <TheMuffenMann> that will make you root, but you have to type the password
[06:43] <dpupp> how do i change the startup sounds of the desktop greeter? it seems every time i do it it reverts back to default.
[06:43] <Hobbsee> TheMuffenMann: why not just use sudo -s?
[06:44] <leather_n_luv> i know, but it wont accept it
[06:44] <TheMuffenMann> i dunno, you tell me..i usually use sudo su
[06:44] <TheMuffenMann> what does it throw back at you?
[06:44] <Hobbsee> sudo -s is usually better, nalioth can explain why
[06:44] <leather_n_luv> hold on...
[06:44] <TheMuffenMann> its personal preference for me
[06:44] <KeithWeisshar> why can't i boot from root hd(1,0) when the drives are swapped via the bios
[06:44] <oxez> I prefer to just use 'su' heh
[06:45] <nalioth> ubotu: tell the TheMuffenMann about root
[06:45] <nalioth> oxez: to each their own, ubuntu use the 'sudo' model of superuser access
[06:45] <leather_n_luv> thanx for the help? lol, found the answer, i'm no longer in the sudoers file.
[06:46] <oxez> nalioth: yea I know, I'm getting used to it. I even use 'sudo emerge' now on my gentoo box ! :p
[06:46] <nalioth> oxez: nothin wrong with sudo
[06:46] <oxez> nalioth: right
[06:46] <timmy334> I just did a fresh install of Breezy. When it gets to where it's supposed to load gdm, Xorg fails with the caught error 4 deal. Anybody know how to fix that?
[06:46] <TheMuffenMann> i use sudo in Slackware too
[06:46] <ULffuntu> sudo config tips are always welcome
[06:46] <leather_n_luv> in slackware i just su
[06:47] <dpupp> where do the startup and shutdown sound file lines get added ? anyone know?
[06:47] <KeithWeisshar> i installed ubuntu on a second hard drive and installed grub to mbr on the second hard drive
[06:47] <timmy334> i just want to get my laptop functional
[06:47] <jeremywhiting> leather_n_luv: after you do a sudo passwd you can just use su if you so desire
[06:47] <KeithWeisshar> when i make the 2nd drive bootable via the bios, i get an error 15 when i select a boot menu in grub
[06:47] <ice_1963> that's RIGHT
[06:47] <KeithWeisshar> how do i fix it
[06:48] <docta_v> anyone have tips on using lsof to find what is using all the space on my disk
[06:48] <ULffuntu> in grub what does your hd look like?... (hd0,1)
[06:48] <leather_n_luv> i have to boot to the live cd, mount hda* and add me to the sudoers file. haha i must have removed the wrong checkmark...
[06:48] <docta_v> i'm not having a whole lot of luck...is it usually a pipe file or what
[06:49] <Kyral> docta_v: use du -h <dir>
[06:49] <jeremywhiting> dpupp: in your gconf registry probably
[06:49] <KeithWeisshar> hd(1,0)
[06:49] <jeremywhiting> just edit them from the gnome sound preferences dialog
[06:49] <docta_v> Kyral: this is one of those cases where there's a large disparity between du and df
[06:49] <dpupp> jeremywhiting, where do i find that?
[06:49] <leather_n_luv> gotta reboot... (and still better that micro&soft)
[06:49] <Kyral> ah nm
[06:49] <docta_v> so there's some file being held by a process
[06:49] <ULffuntu> isn't there something in grub like hd (
[06:49] <ULffuntu> I forget
[06:50] <jeremywhiting> dpupp: System -> Preferences -> Sound
[06:50] <KeithWeisshar> grub shows hd(1,x)
[06:50] <ULffuntu> then hit a tab after hd (
[06:50] <ULffuntu> to see partition layout
[06:50] <KeithWeisshar> grub root begins with hd(1
[06:50] <MeeKs> will ubuntu work with a sempron 2800
[06:50] <dpupp> jeremywhiting,  i set my sounds in tehre, but it seems they get reverted back to default after i log out,. so im wondering where do those settings get written to so i can check them manually.
[06:51] <KeithWeisshar> it doesn't work when the hd is bios swapped
[06:51] <ULffuntu> and you tried what combinations
[06:51] <KeithWeisshar> the dell dimension 4100 bios allows booting from the 2nd drive
[06:51] <jeremywhiting> dpupp: probably somewhere in ~/.gconf
[06:51] <optish> is there a file that is parsed for all users when they login using gdm and xfce? i want to lauch xscreensaver for all users
[06:51] <dpupp> thanks.
[06:51] <KeithWeisshar> when booting from 2nd drive it swaps hd0 and hd1
[06:52] <ULffuntu> how is the controller set up (master, slave or individual?)
[06:53] <hobbes_> alright, now that I've installed some new applications, how do I add them to the gnome menus?
[06:54] <oxez> they're supposed to be added automatically..
[06:54] <Kyral> hobbes_: open a terminal and killall gnome-panel
[06:54] <Kyral> it will refresh the panel
[06:54] <ULffuntu> yeah
[06:54] <ULffuntu> see what happens
[06:54] <hobbes_> uh huh
[06:54] <KeithWeisshar> master/slave
[06:55] <ULffuntu> ok 2 drives set on one controller?
[06:55] <HelloHelloHello> hi guys
[06:55] <KeithWeisshar> yes
[06:55] <HelloHelloHello> i need support for ubuntu.. newbie help
[06:55] <HelloHelloHello> anyone free?
[06:55] <KeithWeisshar> 2 drives on primary ide controller
[06:55] <KeithWeisshar> the windows drive is master and the linux drive is slave
[06:55] <ULffuntu> and when you set the boot order they switch
[06:55] <ULffuntu> your master has grub
[06:56] <ULffuntu> and slave the filesystem
[06:56] <KeithWeisshar> slave has grub
[06:56] <KeithWeisshar> i installed grub to slave
[06:56] <ULffuntu> slave has grub and filesystem
[06:56] <ice_1963> hey hell :0) o
[06:56] <KeithWeisshar> and then set the boot order in bios to slave first
[06:56] <ULffuntu> so you set hd to hd(0,0) wha happens?
[06:57] <KeithWeisshar> i had to edit the hd(1,0) to hd(0,0) each time i boot
[06:57] <brownie17> nalioth, "the aRts Control applet could not be loaded. Please check your installion."
[06:57] <KeithWeisshar> grub shows as hd(1,0)
[06:57] <ULffuntu> but hd(0,0) works right
[06:57] <HelloHelloHello> hi
[06:58] <KeithWeisshar> hd(0,0) works
[06:58] <ULffuntu> Well Keith, what's wrong?
[06:58] <KeithWeisshar> grub installed hd(1,0) when i installed to /dev/hdb
[06:58] <ULffuntu> yes
[06:58] <KeithWeisshar> each time i boot grub it shows up as hd(1,0)
[06:58] <ULffuntu> fixable
[06:59] <Orborde> Where are the Xfce4 menu files stored?
[06:59] <ULffuntu> go to /boot on filesystem
[06:59] <ULffuntu> look for /grub
[06:59] <ULffuntu> look inside for menu.lst
[07:00] <KeithWeisshar> do i need to change the hd() command when using bios boot order
[07:00] <ULffuntu> cmos is ok i think
[07:00] <ULffuntu> you just want to change hd(1,0) to hd(0,0) right?
[07:01] <ULffuntu> oh well
[07:02] <optish> is there a file that is parsed for all users when they login using gdm and xfce? i want to lauch xscreensaver for all users
[07:02] <Kyral> launch?
[07:02] <optish> erm launch
[07:02] <optish> right
[07:02] <Kyral> XScreensaver is always started with XFCE
[07:03] <optish> Kyral, it's not...everytime i go to modify the settings in screensaver it asks if i want to start xscreensaver daemon
[07:03] <Kyral> hmm
[07:05] <rixth> I'd like to formally announce my departure from the Ubuntu/Linux world.
[07:06] <optish> i manage to get to load by reading the manual for GDM but doesnt seem to start for xfce
[07:06] <Kyral> umkay....
[07:06] <ULffuntu> ok why
[07:06] <timmy334> I just did a fresh install of Breezy. When it gets to where it's supposed to load gdm, Xorg fails with the caught error 4 deal. Anybody know how to fix that?
[07:06] <Kyral> optish: you could start XScreensaver in the background (xcreensaver&). then logout of XFCE saving the session
[07:06] <Kyral> that would save it for that session profile
[07:07] <rixth> I can't stand not having a decent photo editor or Flash MX or video/audio capabilites on MSN
[07:07] <rixth> So back to Win2K for me.
[07:07] <ULffuntu> for me it's no DFX for beep media player
[07:07] <rixth> See you guys~
[07:07] <optish> Kyral, right i know i can also add it to .xinitrc but i want to make it happen for all users...system wide
[07:07] <Kyral> Photo Editior == FSpot
[07:07] <Kyral> damnhim
[07:07] <ULffuntu> rixth
[07:07] <Kyral> optish: I don't know
[07:07] <Kyral> and honestly I need to go to bed :D
[07:12] <ice_1963> have a good night
[07:12] <freelove1> anyone knows how to rip dvd to avi?
[07:13] <ULffuntu> ditto
[07:15] <HelloHelloHello> hi guys
[07:15] <HelloHelloHello> what's posix
[07:16] <siorai> Freelovel very carefully
[07:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> HelloHelloHello: a standard for making an OS portable across multiple architcectures
[07:18] <david__> hey can any one help with me installing a new modem?i have the drivers on a cd but too confusng how to install
[07:20] <rss> hello, how do i change the mouse configuration
[07:20] <rss> doing dpkg-reconfigue xserver-xorg is not giving me the option to choose the mouse
[07:21] <rss> ?
[07:22] <frogzoo> what's the best approach for wine? wine or winesetuptk or xwine?
[07:22] <jeremywhiting> rss: you could alwayl edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file by hand
[07:22] <jeremywhiting> if you know what kind of mouse you have
[07:23] <jeremywhiting> e.g. PS2 or USB or Serial, etc
[07:23] <rss> jeremywhiting: I know not, what is this called, I forgot whether this is a intellimouse/mouseman
[07:23] <rss> it is an old rebranded mouse
[07:23] <sabmann> when do I want to recompile my kernel?
[07:24] <frogzoo> sabmann: only when your current kernel version doesn't support your hardware
[07:24] <david__>  hey can any one help with me installing a new modem?i have the drivers on a cd but too confusng how to install.what do i put into the terminal to install the modem?
[07:24] <frogzoo> sabmann: unless you _enjoy_ doing that kind of thing, and then it's like every dot release
[07:24] <MrFarts> david__, you don't need drivers for a modem
[07:25] <deFrysk> sabmann, when you have to ask, never
[07:25] <sabmann> frogzoo, I heard I can speed things up by recompiling
[07:25] <MrFarts> david__, unless it's some BS softmodem
[07:25] <dpupp> i have 15 system mail..... and no idea how to check it
[07:25] <sabmann> lol @ deFrysk
[07:25] <MrFarts> david__, in which case there are kernel drivers for it
[07:25] <frogzoo> sabmann: yes, but not by much - it's really for people who like taking the covers off & tweaking
[07:26] <mebaran151> anyone here abole to help me sync my 5G Video Ipod I just received today as a gift
[07:26] <sabmann> ok thanks, there's a good tutorial on the ubuntuforums about kernel recompiling for noobs, maybe I'll try:)
[07:27] <frogzoo> sabmann: just please don't do this on a production machine ;)
[07:27] <mebaran151> I can mount it with pmount
[07:27] <sabmann> ok
[07:27] <mebaran151> but gtkpod won't sync with it
[07:27] <rss> gnupod?
[07:27] <frogzoo> anyone using wine here?
[07:27] <david__> mrfarts:when i go to detect modem it does not detect it?i had problems with the one i have got atm cuz its only going at 14kbps.so i got a new modem but do not know to install the drivers for it?ive got the install cd but its a load of rubbage
[07:28] <MrFarts> david__, as i said, modems don't generally need drivers
[07:28] <frogzoo> david__: external or internal modem?
[07:28] <dpupp> anyone know how to check system mail?
[07:28] <david__> mrfarts:internal
[07:28] <frogzoo> dpupp: cat /var/spool/mail/root ?
[07:29] <frogzoo> dpupp: or install a mail client & sudo
[07:29] <dpupp> frogzoo, that said no such file. or dir.
[07:29] <david__> frogzoo:internal
[07:29] <kayde> Hey all :)
[07:30] <jeremywhiting> rss: is it plugged into a usb port, a serial port, or the mouse ps/2 port
[07:30] <jeremywhiting> or some other port possibly I guess
[07:30] <frogzoo> dpupp: well there's your answer ;) seriously, do you have a mail daemon running?
[07:31] <dpupp> not as far as im aware. i never set one up.
[07:31] <kayde> 2230cd toshiba satellite; Trident microsystems Cyber 9525, (GFX) i have a prob, my screen has funny lines at bottom of screen, any help?
[07:31] <frogzoo> david__: it's most likely a winmodem - which apparently there's now a wrapper for
[07:31] <dpupp> but im seeing everyday i get a new message according to gkrellm
[07:31] <dpupp> according to gkrellm, i have 21/21 mail.......
[07:31] <MrFarts> frogzoo, there have been drivers for most winmodems for a while now
[07:31] <david__> frogzoo-wrapper?
[07:32] <MrFarts> frogzoo, they don't need any special wrappers
[07:32] <kayde> 2230cd toshiba satellite; Trident microsystems Cyber 9525, (GFX) i have a prob, my screen has funny lines at bottom of screen, any help?
[07:32] <pinkisntwell> if I get an optimized kernel for my processor will I see performance increase?
[07:32] <dpupp> ls
[07:32] <jeff303> anyone who knows about using Eclipse and javadoc, please msg me
[07:32] <MrFarts> pinkisntwell, yes, although probably not a whole lot
[07:32] <david__> mrfarts-yes there have been drivers but sum do cost!whch is y i brought a new modem
[07:32] <pinkisntwell> and how can I enable the new kernel?
[07:32] <MrFarts> david__, why did you buy another winmodem ?
[07:32] <MrFarts> david__, winmodem is junk
[07:32] <frogzoo> kayde: that gfx card is pretty old - I'd reckon if you google cyber 9525 you'll find useful stuff
[07:33] <Goldfish> winmodem is more like vapor-hardware. Open up the card, and there is nothing there but a shell for windows!
[07:33] <dpupp> frogzoo, accorgin to gkrellM, i have 21/21. browsing into the folder of var/spool/mail/ i have a filed called okami, which if i use gedit, it shows a lot of stuff.. i dont remember ever setting up email.
[07:33] <frogzoo> pinkisntwell: not so much extra performance that you'll notice, or would make the exercise worthwhile
[07:33] <david__> MrFarts:cuz its cheap and i do not have much muni atm
[07:34] <pinkisntwell> frogzoo: ok, thanks
[07:34] <dpupp> Seems that all the messages are saying something about: mandb: warning: /usr/share/man/man1/rmiregistry.1.gz is a dangling symlink
[07:35] <frogzoo> MrFarts: apparently now winmodems work on linux - ubotu has the details, but he's not online :-( - david__ mebbe try google
[07:35] <david__> but i have got the install cd wat do i put into the termanal? the file is intel-536ep-tgz
[07:35] <frogzoo> dpupp: those will be mails - if you just need to check what's in there - vi will do - otherwise, install a mail client
[07:35] <kayde> Frogzoo, I have Been trying for nearly a week so far!
[07:36] <Goldfish> I just loaded breezy badget on my 5-year old laptop tonight, and it immediately recognized my netgear wireless WG511T. This is great!
[07:36] <Arie_> grrr
[07:36] <dpupp> ok. i'll post to the forum as i dont know how to explain this to well here :)
[07:36] <Arie_> it's not recognizing my anything
[07:36] <treitter> does anyone know which package(s) include Cherokee font support?
[07:36] <pinkisntwell> winmodems work? really?
[07:36] <Arie_> lucky you goldfish
[07:36] <treitter> I haven't had any luck finding them
[07:38] <Goldfish> What model wireless do you have? I was advised to look for atheros chipset from some of my mlinux.org cohorts.
[07:38] <chris86wm> could someone help me set up mythtv?
[07:38] <lawrence> wait...who got a winmodem to work?
[07:38] <frogzoo> kayde: have you played with xconfs b4? this should be very close 2 your needs http://linux-on-laptops.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-135.html
[07:38] <leather_n_luv> i have like 20 winmodems
[07:39] <chris86wm> i get this error when i apt-get "Setting up mythtv-backend (0.17-3) ...
[07:39] <chris86wm> Starting MythTV server: mythbackendSession management error: Authentication Reje cted, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed"
[07:39] <david__> lawrence:i did.
[07:39] <leather_n_luv> if JUST ONE of those pos's worked...
[07:39] <Goldfish> chris86wm: Check out my web page on http://www.mindspring.com/~gregturn/right_turn/id9.html
[07:39] <chris86wm> anybody know what i am doing wrong?
[07:39] <Arie_> Goldfish Linksys WPC11
[07:40] <Goldfish> Arie_: Speaking of Linksys, we had mlinux.org's weekly meeting tonight, and they presented a slide show followed by live demo of hacking a linksys router.
[07:40] <Arie_> lol
[07:40] <Arie_> great
[07:40] <chris86wm> i was looking at this http://www.quietglow.com/docs/ubuntumythtv.html
[07:40] <Arie_> now if only i could get the stupid thing to work
[07:40] <Arie_> lol this is my first 24 hours as a LXer
[07:40] <leather_n_luv> i got a 'micro-modem', but can't figure out what it is...
[07:40] <kayde> Frogzoo, I dont have a clue about xconf crud, i am a windows junkie
[07:40] <chris86wm> but now im stuck
[07:41] <Goldfish> chris86wm: I have setup mythtv on a debian amd64 system. It have been running this system for about two years (but not already AMD64).
[07:41] <david__> have you tryed scan modem?
[07:41] <chris86wm> have you seen that error before?
[07:41] <Goldfish> chris86wm: Currently, I am using the svn repositories, because I need more up-to-date support for HDTV patches.
[07:41] <leather_n_luv> is that what i type in the console?
[07:42] <MrFarts> leather_n_luv, most of them should work
[07:42] <Goldfish> chris86wm: My only keen piece of advice is patience. Mythtv is cool when you get it going, but there are some hoops to go through to get it up. My website is a tracking of the hurdles I had to go through.
[07:42] <chris86wm> well i got one heck of a hoop
[07:43] <leather_n_luv> no distro has ever even found my modems, TMK
[07:43] <MrFarts> leather_n_luv, what kind of modem ?
[07:43] <timmy334> does anybody else have the problem of Xorg not working on a clean fresh install of Breezy? Anybody know how to fix it?
[07:43] <Goldfish> chris86wm: How far are you? Have you gotten it your TV-tuner card to display stuff on xawtv? It verifies a lot of things are in place before diving into myth's software itself.
[07:43] <david__> hang on il get the site whch tell you what you have to do
[07:44] <chris86wm> i am playing video using zapping
[07:44] <chris86wm> i just want to record but the only one that i know that will do that is myth
[07:44] <leather_n_luv> got a us robotics, and some weird looking tiny connector (looks like isa, but about 2 inches long)
[07:44] <leather_n_luv> us robotics is pci
[07:44] <kayde> FRogzoo, i tried that link, its got no help on it at all, nothinhg like my problems
[07:44] <Goldfish> chris86wm: What type of tuner card do you have? My box has a Jetways card, which is kind of a cheapie, and I also have pcHDTV. The HDTV is still a work in progress.
[07:44] <Arie_> Ok so no one can help me?
[07:44] <Arie_> heh
[07:45] <chris86wm> ati tv wonder pro
[07:45] <MrFarts> leather_n_luv, http://linmodems.org/
[07:45] <frogzoo> kayde: the xorg.conf file there will be quite similiar to yours - you could even try swapping it directly into /etc/X11/xorg.conf, reboot & x your fingers
[07:45] <Goldfish> Arie_: Sorry if I missed some of your points...is that a PCMCIA/cardbus (laptop setup), or PCI.
[07:45] <Orborde> What scripts/configs control which network interfaces are automatically brought up at boot time?
[07:45] <Arie_> PCMCIA
[07:46] <frogzoo> Orborde: all nics marked 'auto' in /etc/network/interfaces
[07:46] <hajiki> Hi, I'm having a VPN client install fail because it needs these libs: libXm.so.3, libssl.so.2, libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so-3 and libcrypto.so.2. How can I fix these so I can install the VPN Client?
[07:46] <david__> go here it will help you find your modem https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto and then just post the details to the ubuntu forums http://ubuntuforums.org
[07:46] <frogzoo> hajiki: well installing the libs would probably be a step in the right direction
[07:46] <leather_n_luv> tried linmodems, lol- i rtfm haha
[07:46] <timmy334> does anybody else have the problem of Xorg not working on a clean fresh install of Breezy? Anybody know how to fix it?
[07:46] <david__> they will help you they did with me
[07:47] <M_Wettendorff> anyone know how to add a danish keyboard??
[07:47] <mlv2005> hello
[07:47] <Orborde> frogzoo: Thanks
[07:47] <Orborde> What about dial-up connections?
[07:47] <hajiki> frogzoo, well i dont know what libs those files are in
[07:47] <frogzoo> M_Wettendorff: system -> prefs -> keyboard
[07:47] <hajiki> if i did i would install them and i would not be in here :(
[07:48] <kayde> ok
[07:48] <mlv2005> how can i connect to yahoo messenger
[07:48] <frogzoo> Orborde: same deal 'auto' on ppp0
[07:48] <Madpilot> mlv2005: gaim
[07:48] <hajiki> mlv2005, gaim
[07:48] <MrFarts> david__, did you get your modem working ?
[07:48] <Arie_> Wettendorf: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard
[07:48] <leather_n_luv> david: will do...
[07:48] <mlv2005> can somebody help me, pls.
[07:48] <Arie_> Goldfish: PCMCIA
[07:48] <MrFarts> leather_n_luv, looks like you are SoL
[07:48] <Orborde> frogzoo: Setting "auto ppp0" will automatically connect it on boot?
[07:48] <frogzoo> mlv2005: hope so... there's some clever people here
[07:48] <MrFarts> leather_n_luv, i'd by a real modem honestly
[07:48] <leather_n_luv> prob'ly
[07:48] <MrFarts> buy
[07:48] <mlv2005> im using ubuntu
[07:49] <leather_n_luv> i would if i could find one when i have cash...
[07:49] <Orborde> mlv2005: Boot up Gaim.
[07:49] <david__> no i didnt.do not know what to put in terminal ae
[07:49] <Orborde> mlv2005: Have you gotten that far?
[07:49] <Goldfish> dpkg -S says that /usr/lib/libsss-0.9.7 is in package libssl-0.9.7
[07:49] <MrFarts> leather_n_luv, don't you have broadband where you live ?
[07:49] <mlv2005> i dont know what ur talking about
[07:49] <punkass> ok i had breezy installed then had to reinstall xp which of course overwrote the mbr...now I would like to just install grub on the root partition of breezy...how would i go about doing that?
[07:49] <MrFarts> leather_n_luv, i haven't used a modem in about 10 years :)
[07:49] <david__> mrfarts evryone is poor leave us lol well i am
[07:49] <frogzoo> Orborde: depends - if you use pppoe - you're better off to just run 'sudo pppoeconf'
[07:49] <M_Wettendorff>  frogzoo : have done that.. but it still uses a US key settings...
[07:49] <Goldfish> Arie_: Copy. I am poking at some online sites to see what they say about that card...
[07:49] <hajiki> Can someone tell me what packages I can find these libs in? libXm.so.3, libssl.so.2, libstdc++lib6.2-2.so.3, and libcrypto.so.2
[07:49] <Arie_> OK
[07:50] <MrFarts> david__, if you are poor, doesn't mean you have to be stupid
[07:50] <kayde> Froogzoo, what is the code in root terminal to put in to get to that file??
[07:50] <MrFarts> david__, what's the point of spending money on something that doesn't work ?
[07:50] <Orborde> frogzoo: sudo pppoeconf ?
[07:50] <Arie_> Goldfish: I have the driver downloaded. I just can't seem to get ndiswrapper to install it right
[07:50] <frogzoo> M_Wettendorff: now add to your panel a new applet - keyboard chooser - & you can switch between - works for me for french
[07:50] <david__> well sorry i probley am.it will work just need help setting up
[07:50] <frogzoo> Orborde: yup - if you're on adsl, that's the ticket
[07:51] <Arie_> Wehre do you get keyboard chooser?
[07:51] <Orborde> frogzoo: Excellent. Thanks.
[07:51] <kayde> Froogzoo, what is the code in root terminal to put in to get to that file??
[07:51] <MrFarts> david__, do you even know what type of modem it is ?
[07:51] <frogzoo> M_Wettendorff: you need to go into layouts to add the danish kb
[07:52] <frogzoo> M_Wettendorff: system -> prefs -> kb -> layout
[07:52] <Goldfish> Arie_: I read a site that says WPC 11 is a prism2 card. That is chip in my mythtv box, which I had to compile linux-wlan-ng kernel modules and set up a /etc/wlan/wlancfg-<ess> configuration file.
[07:52] <M_Wettendorff> 05 Frogzoo: i will try. even tho i have no idear of what im doing.. if sometings go wrong, well.. i just reinstall again
[07:52] <david__> intel chipset
[07:52] <david__> ???
[07:53] <kayde> Froogzoo, what is the code in root terminal to put in to get to that file??
[07:53] <hajiki> Can someone tell me what packages I can find these libs in? libXm.so.3, libssl.so.2, libstdc++lib6.2-2.so.3, and libcrypto.so.2
[07:53] <MrFarts> dave_, you are beyond help
[07:53] <frogzoo> M_Wettendorff: this is very straightforward - system -> prefs -> kb -> layout -> add "danish"
[07:53] <crimsun> hajiki: please use http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[07:53] <Arie_> weird because in all the lists it says it's a realtek
[07:53] <MrFarts> hajiki, libXm should be lesstif/motif
[07:53] <Goldfish> Arie_: If you lsmod | grep prism2, do you see any modules? Hopefully, ubuntu loaded them out of the box. You may just need to /etc/wlan/wlancfg file setup.
[07:53] <hajiki> thank you both
[07:53] <M_Wettendorff> brb
[07:54] <david__> i got it from dick smith
[07:54] <david__> o well
[07:54] <Arie_> Goldfish: In English please? LOL
[07:54] <redguy> hajiki: apt-get install apt-file && apt-file update && apt-file search <file_name>
[07:54] <Goldfish> Arie_: Vendors are real nasty about making changes under hood between revs and not telling the consumers....
[07:54] <leather_n_luv> how do i make num-lock come on automaticaly?
[07:54] <kayde> What do i type into root terminal to get into Xorg.conf?? please list
[07:55] <Goldfish> Arie_: Type "lsmod | grep prism" -> do you see any kernel modules listed, indicating ubuntu spotted a prism2 chip anywhere?
[07:55] <Arie_> hold on
[07:55] <redguy> kayde: nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:56] <kayde> ty
[07:56] <Arie_> Goldfish: No such luck
[07:56] <hajiki> leather_n_luv, probably in your bios?
[07:56] <frogzoo> M_Wettendorff: then right click task bar - add to panel -> add application -> preferences -> keyboard
[07:57] <kayde> Redguy; i need it open in gedit plz...
[07:57] <Goldfish> Arie_: Of course, take it with a grain of salt. My other box is debian, not ubuntu. However, the kernel modules are independt of the distro so should hold....
[07:57] <Arie_> Ok
[07:57] <frogzoo> kayde: sudo vi /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[07:57] <leather_n_luv> i did, but the kernel (or grub?) turns it off
[07:57] <Arie_> Goldfish: So what do I do now?
[07:57] <redguy> frogzoo: maybe sudo ed /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[07:57] <hajiki> leather_n_luv, oh sorry
[07:58] <kayde> ty
[07:58] <Goldfish> Arie_: Okay...type "lspci". Do you see anything with Linksys on it?
[07:58] <frogzoo> redguy: ed :p
[07:58] <redguy> frogzoo: try to beat that! :P
[07:58] <leather_n_luv> it must be a default setting with linux, and only on RH did i find a setting for it...
[07:58] <Goldfish> Arie_: P.S. I have been working with debian for 2+ years, but I am 2-hours young in the world of ubuntu. :)
[07:59] <frogzoo> redguy: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sed - but now we're just being silly
[07:59] <HiddenWolf> Goldfish, easer for next time lspci | grep Linksys
[07:59] <Arie_> Goldfish: No but I see Realtek
[07:59] <kayde> Frogzoo: not working, it needs 2 be opend in gedit-GNOME<ACCESORIES<TEXT EDITOR
[07:59] <redguy> kayde: you propably would have to do something like gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf. really not sure about the gksu part
[07:59] <frogzoo> kayde: sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:59] <Goldfish> Arie_: Guess that piece of information was out of whack. Is Realtek the broadcom chipset?
[08:00] <Arie_> Goldfish: I'm a Linux virgin LOL broadcom???
[08:00] <Arie_> Goldfish: I have Linksys
[08:01] <Goldfish> Arie_: Ah ha, found some followup emails that indicated that ver. 4 of WPC 11 is realtek instead of the prism chipset. $(@*% I know how to configure a prism chip.
[08:01] <Goldfish> Aries_: http://lists.shmoo.com/pipermail/hostap/2004-January/005354.html
[08:01] <kayde> gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf is the right 1 ty
[08:01] <leather_n_luv> for my modem, lspci says: 0000:00:1f.6 Modem: Intel Corp. 82801AA AC'97 Modem (rev 02)
[08:02] <leather_n_luv> is there support?
[08:02] <Arie_> why is my internet so slow???
[08:02] <leather_n_luv> arie: firefox?
[08:02] <redguy> kayde: check if you can write to that file...
[08:02] <frogzoo> Arie_: slow, very slow or ridiculous?
[08:02] <Arie_> yeah firefox
[08:02] <kayde> i can, and i just did :-)
[08:03] <leather_n_luv> type in the address bar 'about:config'
[08:03] <leather_n_luv> no quotes
[08:03] <Arie_> like a lot slower than it was on win2k on a pII 300 laptop
[08:03] <kayde> how come ur writing is red?
[08:03] <redguy> !tell kayde about nicktab
[08:03] <frogzoo> Arie_: and what are you on now?
[08:03] <Arie_> pIII 750
[08:03] <Goldfish> Aires_: Found http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloads1-3.aspx?Keyword=8180 This is the Realtek's web site. You may to download some drivers and build a kernel module. Ready for fun?
[08:04] <leather_n_luv> arie_: you done it?
[08:04] <frogzoo> Arie_: you on dsl?
[08:04] <Arie_> Goldfish: Let's do it
[08:04] <Arie_> leather: yes
[08:04] <Arie_> frogzoo: yes
[08:04] <ashley3453> Hi I was hoping to get help about nvidia TV-out, does anyone know how nvtv fits into the picture ?
[08:04] <frogzoo> Arie_: 1 suggestion - set your mtu to 1440 in /etc/ppp/peers/dsl-provider
[08:05] <Orborde> What's a nice, Linux-compatible brand of Ethernet NIC?
[08:05] <kayde> redguy, sweet :-)
[08:05] <Orborde> I'm trying to build a router.
[08:05] <redguy> kayde: read what uboutu told you. most irc clients make lines containing your nick red. This helps a lot on a noisy channel like this
[08:05] <frogzoo> Orborde: intel rock
[08:05] <leather_n_luv> Arie_: scroll down till you see 'network.dns.disableIPv6'
[08:05] <Urthmover> so I have a wierd problem...for some reason when I use NX client....the taskbar doesn't come through....does anyone have suggestions?
[08:05] <kayde> redguy, is this red?
[08:05] <Goldfish> Aires_: Give me a second. There is a great howto for linux newbies in building kernels. I won't be able to stay up with you, because it is past my bedtime, but I can give you some tips...
[08:05] <redguy> kayde: yup
[08:05] <slew> hi, on my desktop is an icon for hda1, the win nt partition. i dont have read perms, i cant unmount it, and cant put it in the trash. how do i get rid of the thing, or at least give myself read permission?
[08:05] <kayde> sweet!
[08:05] <Orborde> frogzoo: What about this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00006IJOR/qid=1133937688/sr=8-4/ref=pd_bbs_4/102-2237029-0621702?n=507846&s=electronics&v=glance
[08:05] <Urthmover> I get desktop and I'm even looking at it now...buy no taskbar or start button or anything
[08:05] <Urthmover> but
[08:06] <leather_n_luv> Arie_: disable by clicking twice, if it is enabled...
[08:06] <leather_n_luv> Arie_: then restart firefox to get the benefit!
[08:06] <ashley3453> if i boot my computer with only a tv plugged in, no monitor, to change the default settings it uses on the tv, do i need to chang my xorg.conf or nvtv settings ?
[08:07] <Arie_> frogzoo i don;t have that
[08:07] <frogzoo> Orborde: you own that? or considering buying? Microsoft Networking 10/100 Ethernet PCI Adapter
[08:07] <ashley3453> at present it boots in black and white, and i use nvtv GUI to alter a resolution setting to make the colour work, is there a way of automating this ?
[08:08] <Arie_> leather: says false
[08:08] <StDellis> what is the difference between the 386 and 686 when you boot up?
[08:08] <StDellis> which should  be using
[08:08] <Orborde> frogzoo: It's called a joke :)
[08:08] <frogzoo> Arie_: start with the basics - try 'ping -s 500 www.yahoo.com'
[08:08] <Orborde> frogzoo: I'm trying to find about 3 NICs so I can make myself a router.
[08:08] <leather_n_luv> Arie_: double click to make it say true
[08:08] <Arie_> ok
[08:09] <kayde> frogzoo, Do i Ctr+alt+backspace after saving new xorg.conf file?
[08:09] <Orborde> frogzoo: Or should I just buy a big ol' switch and play with that?
[08:09] <redguy> ashley3453: since nobody seems to know, how about reading nvtv's documentation? /usr/share/doc/nvtv is a good place to look for it
[08:09] <Arie_> leather: do i have to close extensions too?
[08:09] <ashley3453> redguy, thanks
[08:09] <leather_n_luv> Arie_: extentions?
[08:10] <frogzoo> Orborde: ok - lol - but the chipset on those might work, then again, I wouldn't bet on it
[08:10] <Arie_> of firefox
[08:10] <leather_n_luv> Arie_: like?
[08:10] <kayde> redguy, do i Ctr+alt+backspace when i save xorg.conf file?
[08:10] <frogzoo> Orborde: would 3 x intel pro 10/100 be doable ?
[08:10] <Arie_> like chatzilla which i'm using to chat to u guys
[08:10] <Arie_> lol
[08:10] <Orborde> frogzoo: If I can find them for under about $10 each, maybe.
[08:11] <leather_n_luv> Arie_: IDK, maybe...
[08:11] <Arie_> ok
[08:11] <leather_n_luv> Arie_: firefox has to read the settings
[08:11] <Orborde> frogzoo: Not sure whether I should just buy a plain ol' hardware router/switch, though.
[08:11] <leather_n_luv> Arie_: after the change
[08:11] <Arie_> Goldfish: U there?
[08:12] <Goldfish> Arie_: Had to jump on a another machine to find this link: http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html.en
[08:12] <frogzoo> Orborde: you can do some funky qos stuff with iptables - it's an option - re: driver support http://www.scyld.com/eepro100.html
[08:12] <leather_n_luv> Arie_: this worked for me... got this tip from the LUG
[08:12] <redguy> kayde: well you should restart X after changing xorg.conf
[08:12] <Orborde> frogzoo: So that would be an option in favor of buying a stack of NICs?
[08:12] <Goldfish> Arie_: That article is a keeper. It gives a detailed description of you custom build kernels and/or third party modules (like Realtek's drivers), into .deb packages
[08:13] <chrismurf> This is not a sane question... How hard is it to recompile nautilus for ubuntu?  Can I just pull the source out of the package, and recompile it or something?  How much pain am I in for?
[08:13] <Arie_> Goldfish: I have to restart this client
[08:13] <Arie_> brb
[08:13] <pundai> hey can anyone tell me how i can downgrade the ipw2200 driver for breezxy
[08:14] <tga> hey.. I'm having some trouble connecting to my bluetooth phone.. anyone played with obexftp and friends lately?
[08:14] <slew> how can i keep hda1 unmounted? it wants to remount at restart.
[08:15] <M_Wettendorff>  frogzoo: i now have a keyboard indicator right next to the workspace selector... and it sais "DnK" but it still has a difrent layout..
[08:15] <leather_n_luv> slew: it is in "/etc/fstab"
[08:15] <mjr> slew, edit /etc/fstab, add "noauto" to options, a # to the beginning of the line, or remove the line altogether
[08:15] <[adw] > to look for atheros chipset from some of my mlinux.org cohorts.
[08:15] <slew> thx
[08:16] <leather_n_luv> slew: in the 'options' portion, put 'noauto'
[08:16] <M_Wettendorff>  frogzoo: normaly i have to press SHIFT 2 to get the " but that is placed on a difrent place with my current settings
[08:16] <Arie_> Goldfish: Can you post that link again?
[08:17] <frogzoo> M_Wettendorff: you manage to get a kb selector onto your task bar?
[08:17] <Goldfish> http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html.en
[08:17] <Orborde> What file do I need to delete to reset my GTK theme switching-tude?
[08:17] <leather_n_luv> Arie_: is it faster at all?
[08:17] <Goldfish> http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloads1-3.aspx?Keyword=8180
[08:18] <M_Wettendorff>  I got a Keyboard indicator.. cant finde the selector
[08:18] <Arie_> not that one
[08:18] <frogzoo> M_Wettendorff: just left click - & you can change installed kbs
[08:18] <Arie_> leather not really so i installed the fasterfox extension
[08:18] <Arie_> much better
[08:18] <Goldfish> Aries_: Have you read this from ubuntu's site on the realtek? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards?highlight=%28wireless%29
[08:18] <Goldfish> Aries_: They have some info on it.....
[08:18] <Arie_> ok
[08:19] <Goldfish> Aries_: Custom building kernel modules is what you do when all other options don't work, i.e. try any other thing first!
[08:19] <M_Wettendorff>  No good..  still the same...
[08:19] <slew> leather_n_luv, mjr, thanks =] 
[08:19] <frogzoo> M_Wettendorff: system -> prefs -> kb -> layout - now add danish
[08:20] <Arie_> ok the card is included in my PCI Bridge
[08:20] <Arie_> In Device Manager
[08:20] <slew> leather_n_luv, mjr, if i wanted to make that hda1 readable to a user, how would i do that?
[08:20] <Arie_> It even lists Linksys as the OEM
[08:21] <M_Wettendorff>  i have added that.. but no good
[08:21] <Arie_> Goldfish?
[08:21] <Goldfish> Arie_: I don't care who the company is. The real key is the chipset, in this realtek. Several other rows point out ndiswrapper. The "XP" driver they are referring to is probably firmware for the card, which is the only reason it would work on both windows and ubuntu.
[08:22] <Arie_> Ok
[08:22] <frogzoo> M_Wettendorff: do you now have a 'US' on your taskbar?
[08:22] <leather_n_luv> slew: "man fstab" has useful info, but not enough sometimes... but in your case, it should answer the questions you have better than i
[08:22] <Arie_> Well I'm telling you the card is in my Device Manager
[08:22] <Arie_> How do I get it to work?
[08:22] <Arie_> :(
[08:23] <slew> leather_n_luv, thanks =] 
[08:23] <leather_n_luv> and you're quite welcome.  look for 'options' in man fstab...
[08:23] <Goldfish> Arie_: This is the ubuntu article on ndiswrapper: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[08:23] <M_Wettendorff>  nop..
[08:23] <Arie_> Yeah I tried following it
[08:24] <Arie_> It won't install the driver
[08:24] <dookie> can anyone help me get my video card working, just got ubuntu running
[08:25] <frogzoo> M_Wettendorff: right click task bar -> add to panel -> #### (something) -> kb  {my batteries are flat, so this is from memory}
[08:25] <Arie_> I hate NdisWrapper :P
[08:25] <Goldfish> I'm not really familiar the ubuntu's device manager yet....I see...looks some a slick frontend for lspci.
[08:25] <Arie_> I don;t know how to make it work
[08:26] <Goldfish> Well...basically you can try to download realtek's 2.6.x kernel module, and use the newbies doc to build a module against your current kernel. I can't cover all that in an IRC channel chat.
[08:26] <Goldfish> Sorry!
[08:26] <Arie_> I have no idea what you mean
[08:26] <Arie_> Ok
[08:27] <Arie_> Thanks for your help though
[08:27] <frogzoo> dookie: whats your gfx card?
[08:27] <dookie> it's an ati 9200
[08:27] <M_Wettendorff>  the only keyboard thing i have is "Keyboard Accessibilty status" and 'keyboard indicator"
[08:27] <qt2> gn
[08:27] <qt2> *hm
[08:28] <frogzoo> dookie: synaptic -> add 'fglrx' - reboot :) (maybe need to tweak, but try that 1st)
[08:28] <dookie> when i start up ubuntu using integrated graphics it loads fine, but when i try using my pci card it get stuck before i can log in
[08:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> 'stuck'?
[08:29] <dookie> get stuck on starting hotplug subsystems, no clue what that's all about
[08:29] <frogzoo> dookie: which pci card?
[08:29] <frogzoo> dookie: why do you think it's your gfx card causing the prob?
[08:29] <frogzoo> M_Wettendorff: keyboard indicator's what you want
[08:29] <tga> Can't connect RFCOMM socket: Device or resource busy
[08:29] <tga> does this ring a bell to anyone?
[08:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> dookie: have you tried a different slot?
[08:30] <dookie> i don't know if it is, it's just when i set my bios to use integrated graphics everything loads correctly, but when i set it to pci ubuntu won't load
[08:30] <frogzoo> tga: suggest google perhaps
[08:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> tga: any more info?
[08:31] <cast> ummm. where are the debootstrap docs? the wiki is empty
[08:31] <tga> thanks frogzoo, I'm googling away already
[08:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> dookie: are your irq's set to auto in bios?
[08:31] <M_Wettendorff> Frog: I have placed that on there.. But no mather what i do, i cant get promicition to chace the layout
[08:31] <tga> Kamping_Kaiser, I'm trying to connect to my bluetooth phone but I keep running into trouble
[08:31] <dookie> no, would a different slot matter, it works fine in windows
[08:31] <tga> Kamping_Kaiser, I didn't get further than getting the first obexftp --list of the phone
[08:31] <frogzoo> M_Wettendorff: but if you click the "US" can you see a danish option?
[08:32] <Orborde> What files are controlled by GTK2?
[08:32] <tga> heh, keyboards.. I have a Dutch keyboard here that's causing me a ton of trouble
[08:32] <tga> I have no backspace/pipe key atm
[08:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> tga: not sure what your problem is. sounds like you might need to email the devs of whatever app it is
[08:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> ouch!
[08:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> no pipe :(
[08:33] <frogzoo> dookie: I would really suggest you 1st try your luck with the fglrx driver - youl want that for 3d anyhow
[08:33] <cast> ahh nvm. ill use the knoppix docs
[08:33] <tga> Kamping_Kaiser, http://www.mgi.net.au/main/Nokia_6230i this is what I'm trying to do
[08:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> I'll have a look tga
[08:35] <dookie> thought i read in the forums that ubuntu came with that, and that i'd just be re-installing it
[08:35] <dookie> the fglrx driver i mean
[08:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> net is way to slow
[08:36] <frogzoo> dookie: no - the stock driver is 'ATI'
[08:38] <dookie> i'm reading in this forum here that breezy comes with the 8.16.20 driver, is that not true?
[08:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> cant help you tga, bit outside my experiance :(
[08:39] <tga> oh well, thanks for looking
[08:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell dookie about ati
[08:40] <twitch101> how do i compile tar.bz2 files and binarys?
[08:41] <dookie> !tell kamping_kaiser what's that?
[08:41] <cast> twitch101: that doesn't quite might sense. what are you trying to do?
[08:41] <frogzoo> !fglrx
[08:41] <ubotu> I guess fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> twitch101: a tar is an archive
[08:41] <frogzoo> tar = tape archive
[08:41] <twitch101> i just downloaded kbear from the debian list or whatever and i need to know how to compile so it runs like a .exe
[08:42] <M_Wettendorff> frogzoo: have now delete the danish keyboard..  that chance the indicator to say "USA" then i added the danish layout again (Looks as the right one) but i cant use it..
[08:42] <twitch101> im used to windows....
[08:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> twitch101: isnt it in the repositories?
[08:42] <M_Wettendorff> you to..
[08:42] <frogzoo> M_Wettendorff: damn - did you check the box in layout to enable the danish?
[08:43] <twitch101> it might be but im using a live CD and i cant change the install destination to my external HD
[08:43] <leather_n_luv> WTF is 'slamr'?
[08:43] <M_Wettendorff> nop.. but let me try it
[08:44] <twitch101> a link to the repository would at best get me started...
[08:44] <frogzoo> dookie: this is exactly what you need for fglrx https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[08:44] <chris86wm> could someone help me install zapping on ubuntu. here is the instructions but the make no since to me http://zapping.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/view/Main/CompileAndInstall
[08:44] <M_Wettendorff> yea...  Now it finaly works..
[08:44] <chris86wm> *they
[08:44] <frogzoo> M_Wettendorff: woot! - whew
[08:45] <keiron> hello
[08:45] <chris86wm> anyone good at compiling?
[08:45] <ashok> hi
[08:45] <twitch101> i need help with compiling too
[08:45] <frogzoo> chris86wm: define 'good'
[08:45] <twitch101> they said its in the repositories
[08:45] <keiron> i would like to be able to send email from my ubuntu installation using thunderbird. in windows i install an SMTP software to do it for me. in ubuntu, should i install sendmail to do this form me?
[08:45] <chris86wm> well i cant get this to work http://zapping.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/view/Main/CompileAndInstall
[08:46] <M_Wettendorff> Thanks for the help.. i proberly need more help, when im going to install more things
[08:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> twitch101: what version of ubuntu
[08:46] <twitch101> 5.04 hoary hedgehog
[08:46] <frogzoo> keiron: you don't want sendmail - just define an SMTP server for outbound
[08:46] <chris86wm> i would apt-get it but its the older version and the new one has recording
[08:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> chris86wm: got build-essenal installed?
[08:46] <frogzoo> M_Wettendorff: yw
[08:46] <keiron> frogzoo: i don't have any access to an SMTP server, i need to make my own machine an SMTP server
[08:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> twitch101: just a tic
[08:47] <dookie> ok frogzoo thanks, so i just installed ubuntu 5.10 and now i need to go get fglrx, everything else in my comp is what came with the dell, anything else i need to go get or should that be good?
[08:47] <twitch101> alright
[08:47] <chris86wm> not sure
[08:47] <chris86wm> let me check
[08:47] <frogzoo> keiron: usually your ISP will let you use their SMTP mail server - usually it just "mail.ISP.NET"
[08:47] <chris86wm> Kamping_Kaiser: its called build-essential right?
[08:48] <frogzoo> keiron: try ping mail.yourisp.net.xxx
[08:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> twitch101: http://packages.ubuntu.com/Hoary/net/kbear
[08:48] <mebaran151> anyone here have a 5G iPod
[08:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> !build-essential
[08:48] <twitch101> is that already compiled?
[08:48] <ubotu> Kamping_Kaiser: Are you on ritalin?
[08:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> !info build-essential
[08:48] <ubotu> build-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 11.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[08:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> twitch101: yes
[08:48] <keiron> frogzoo: my isp doesn't :). doesn't matter, i installed sendmail and it worked first time (smtp set to localhost port 25) :)
[08:48] <fr500> hello
[08:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> yes it is chris86wm (had to check)
[08:48] <twitch101> thanks alot
[08:49] <mebaran151> I would like to sync my iPod with gtkpod
[08:49] <mebaran151> but it does not work....
[08:49] <fr500> does anyone use multisync and a cell phone?
[08:49] <mebaran151> I am sad...
[08:49] <mebaran151> it fails only silently
[08:49] <fr500> mebaran151: tried banshee?
[08:49] <mebaran151> banshee
[08:49] <mebaran151> just freezes
[08:49] <mebaran151> I thought of that :)
[08:49] <frogzoo> keiron: cool
[08:49] <chris86wm> nope, let me install it
[08:49] <mebaran151> when I try to select a menu action it dies
[08:49] <M_Wettendorff> How long time will there go, before the SPM tells that firefox can be upgradet?
[08:49] <fr500> mebaran151: weird
[08:50] <finite0> i just installed breezy on lvm on raid-1, with a separate /boot that is neither raid nor lvm, and everything seemed to go as expected during install. But then, booting hangs after the initrd's splashscreen.
[08:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> mebaran151: if it fails silently, launch it from a terminal
[08:50] <finite0> when i use lvdiskscren while booted from a live cd, it doesn't see my raid and complains about a duplicate pvid on the two raid disks.
[08:50] <twitch101> kamping_kaiser: it said 404 not found
[08:51] <finite0> but then it sees the raid and ignores the disks after i do a lvm pvdisplay /dev/md0
[08:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> twitch101: hm.
[08:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> it's up on my screen right now -> http://packages.ubuntu.com/Hoary/net/kbear sure it's not there?
[08:51] <finite0> any suggestions ?
[08:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh
[08:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hoary lowercase
[08:51] <twitch101> maybe my isp blocking it
[08:51] <twitch101> 5.04 Hoary Hedgehog
[08:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> twitch101: make the H lowercase
[08:52] <twitch101> ok
[08:52] <twitch101> god your genius
[08:52] <finite0> when i try to boot I get the splash screen, loading modules, then back to text... "Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel. Loading please wait...." then nothing. just hangs.
[08:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> twitch101: scroll down to the bottom for the link
[08:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> not sure if those depends are part of the base system or not
[08:53] <twitch101> i found it thanks
[08:53] <finite0> do I need to make a new initrd to boot off lvm on raid? shouldn't the installer have made this work?
[08:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> probably not if it's a kdeapp
[08:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> finite0: how long for?
[08:53] <twitch101> it will open by itself and install by itself right?
[08:53] <twitch101> it still shows as a .deb file and iono what to do with them
[08:53] <frogzoo> finite0: looks like it finds your kernel fine - sometimes defining the path to init as well helps
[08:53] <finite0> Kamping_Kaiser: indefinitely.
[08:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> twitch101: you install it with 'sudo dpkg -i debname.deb` ina  terminal
[08:54] <finite0> frogzoo: how would i do that?
[08:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> finite0: oh, ok. that's a bit longer then my record 30 seconds ;)
[08:54] <twitch101> oooo ok is there anything i have to change to make it go to my external HD
[08:54] <Zen> How do I get 3D to work in Ubuntu AMD64 w/ an ATI card?
[08:54] <chris86wm> WTF, it wont let me install build-essential because for some crazy reason it doesnt see that my ubuntu cd is in the drive!?
[08:55] <deFrysk> chris86wm, comment your cd entry out in sources.list
[08:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> twitch101: try to install it on the live cd, and copy the packages out of /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:55] <frogzoo> finite0: add to /boot/grub/menu.lst the line "initrd /boot/migrt24.gz" or similiar
[08:55] <twitch101> k
[08:55] <dookie> well thank you both, we'll see how the new driver works
[08:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> if yhou can install on a live cd, that's the best way  (gets dependainces as well)
[08:56] <chris86wm> there it goes
[08:56] <finite0> frogzoo: but it's booting from the initrd already.
[08:56] <dirkson> Hello all. I'm desparately trying to get wvdial to run at startup. Could anyone help me? >.<
[08:56] <finite0> so grub must know about the initrd, right?
[08:57] <twitch101> Kamping_Kaiser: which .deb file to i use? do i use the archive manager to take the files out of the .tar.gz?
[08:58] <chris86wm> still configuring libc6............
[08:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> twitch101: have you installed it on the live cd?
[08:58] <twitch101> i dont know what to put for "debname.deb
[08:58] <budai> ison Orby
[08:59] <budai> ison ogra
[08:59] <budai> oh
[08:59] <twitch101> or do i do those exact words?
[08:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> twitch101: the one you downloaded from packages. ubuntu
[08:59] <frogzoo> finite0: mmm mumble - Id put it in, cos it can't hurt - also, do you have mount points for your various filesystems?
[08:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> no. debname.deb is the paacke name from ubuntu.com
[08:59] <chris86wm> Kamping_Kaiser: ok i got it installed
[09:00] <twitch101>  so i do type that ok i thought you were using it as a variable
[09:00] <finite0> i have only what the installer gave me... my two filesystems are /boot and /, and /boot is /dev/hda1 and / should be /dev/mapper/myvg-root
[09:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> chris86wm: cool
[09:01] <finite0> the only way i have of mounting my filesystem and looking at it is by booting from the live cd, where lvm at first seems to see the raid physical volumes as lvm PVs
[09:01] <twitch101> ok and here is what i got for typing what you typed "dpkg: unknown option -1
[09:01] <Kaiser_Eats> bbl
[09:01] <chris86wm> Kamping_Kaiser: well i got build-essentials installed lol
[09:02] <finite0> ... but lvm then sees the raid as it's PV after lvm pvdisplay /dev/md0
[09:02] <Kaiser_Eats> chris86wm: now you can try and compile :)
[09:02] <Szehne> can someone walk me through the compiling process from C++ source to executable?
[09:02] <brownie17> can anyone tell me, is there a way to load different sessions for different users automatically?
[09:03] <Szehne> please
[09:03] <finite0> this is my first lvm experience and so far I am very unimpressed. From reading the wiki it sounds like LVM was almost default in breezy installer... sure am glad that didn't happen
[09:04] <brownie17> Szehne, it is often difficult to get a response in here, even when you know someone knows the answer to your problem, keep trying
[09:04] <brownie17> Szehne, and don't get told off for repeating, because you weren't answered a reasonably easy question.
[09:04] <twitch101> anybody know where i go from "dpkg: unknown option -1
[09:04] <twitch101> Type dpkg --help for help about installing and deinstalling packages [*] ;
[09:04] <twitch101> Use dselect for user-friendly package management;
[09:04] <twitch101> Type dpkg -Dhelp for a list of dpkg debug flag values;
[09:04] <twitch101> Type dpkg --force-help for a list of forcing options;
[09:04] <twitch101> Type dpkg-deb --help for help about manipulating *.deb files;
[09:04] <twitch101> Type dpkg --licence for copyright licence and lack of warranty (GNU GPL) [*] .
[09:04] <twitch101> Options marked [*]  produce a lot of output - pipe it through `less' or `more' !
[09:04] <frogzoo> Szehne: g++ prog.c -o prog
[09:04] <brownie17> twitch101, pastebin!!!!
[09:04] <twitch101> yes i know srry....
[09:05] <brownie17> that;s ok
[09:05] <frogzoo> twitch101: that should be an 'i' (as in eye) - not '1' as in one
[09:05] <brownie17> you'll be lucky if you don't get banned
[09:05] <Szehne> frogzoo- what's all of this that i hear about make-files and stuff
[09:05] <twitch101> omg.....so tired alright
[09:05] <Pygi> Szehne: your making your own app? any gui? anjuta?
[09:06] <brownie17> who knows where i can find a bigger help site for any linux distro?
[09:06] <Szehne> i was just trying to make helloworld using the gnome builder tool
[09:06] <brownie17> sorry, i mean help channel
[09:06] <frogzoo> Szehne: makefiles are the config files to a tool called make - that takes care of automating the build process - usually just a "make config; make ; make install" is all you need - but always check the docs/readmes
[09:06] <dabaR> brownie17: they are gnu/linux distros mostly, and #linux exists
[09:07] <Szehne> so basically, i just cd into the dir with the makefile and type make... blablabla
[09:08] <frogzoo> Szehne: like I say, that usual - but always read the readme & install files
[09:08] <twitch101> frogzoo do you know if i need to type the whole path to make it find the .deb on my external HD
[09:08] <frogzoo> twitch101: indeed you do
[09:08] <twitch101> ok
[09:08] <Szehne> cool, it's just i'm a c# developer coming over from the darkside... to A unix... not sure which one
[09:08] <frogzoo> twitch101: or just cd to the directory, & 'dpkg -i ./file.deb'
[09:10] <twitch101> its a live cd
[09:10] <frogzoo> twitch101: same deal
[09:11] <twitch101> so far im going to go with kaisers idea and install it default and copy it to my HD fro there
[09:11] <Szehne> i really can't decide- i'd like to go with linux, but i was also told that i could learn a lot more from a BSD...
[09:11] <twitch101> i didnt understand what you told really either....
[09:11] <brownie17> Szehne, um.,.. i think BSD is *nix
[09:12] <[Jonne] > Szehne, are you the guy from ubuntuforums?
[09:12] <Szehne> brownie17-> it is, of course; but things are very different
[09:12] <Szehne> jonne> what meanest thou?
[09:12] <[Jonne] > did you post a thread about that bsd thing in ubuntuforums?
[09:13] <brownie17> who knows anything about sessions and changing desktop managers!?
[09:13] <Szehne> na- the only thing i posted there was for help for my bloody laptop wireless card... which still won't work
[09:13] <Szehne> i try to not play with fire... especially on USENET
[09:13] <[Jonne] > so you're not this guy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=99363 ?
[09:13] <mahangu>  brownie17 shoot
[09:14] <twitch101> at least your laptop can take a newer pc card.....unlike my t55C thinkpad AKA"the brick"
[09:14] <david__> ubotu on?
[09:14] <ubotu> I don't know, david__
[09:14] <twitch101> *755C
[09:14] <dabaR> Szehne: you can perhaps learn as much, just about a different thing, and many things on GNU/Linux have been sugar coated, which have not on BSD, that is what they mean perhaps, cause you will have a harder time with some things there(harder meaning more work). Most of us here, I believe, were not really BSD users ever, so can not answer that.
[09:14] <david__> far out that was quick
[09:14] <Szehne> na- if i posted anything, it'd be under the name "Szehne"
[09:14] <lanjelot> hi, is there a way to active the Trash feature when i delete files from a monted partition ?
[09:14] <dabaR> !ubotu
[09:14] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[09:14] <dabaR> oh
[09:15] <david__> ubotu can you help me wit my modem
[09:15] <ubotu> david__: I haven't a clue
[09:15] <dabaR> david__: ubotu is a bot. read the private messages he will send you.
[09:16] <ardchoille> how do I disable the Bluetooth service
[09:16] <Szehne> (please don't flame me): is linux or bsd easier for complete customization and minimalistic design? which is easier to develop on (though, i'm interested in straight X design)
[09:16] <ardchoille> I think it's hcip, but I am not for sure
[09:17] <Glossary> it sais i dont have enough priviliges to access the "home" folder!!! how can i fix it
[09:17] <dabaR> Szehne: I told you most here never used BSD. also, it is GNU/LInux, and we mostly all use Ubuntuof all the different Gnu/LInuxes.
[09:17] <dabaR> which are all different among themselves.
[09:17] <Szehne> gotcha- i'll go elsewhere with that question
[09:17] <twitch101> alright somebody can they write me a terminal command to install kbear that is located here "/media/usbdisk/a"
[09:18] <dabaR> Szehne: or rephrase to make it one about ubuntu.
[09:18] <twitch101> this is in ubuntu
[09:18] <Szehne> i understand
[09:18] <Glossary> PLEASE help.
[09:18] <frogzoo> !tell david__ about modems
[09:18] <Szehne> but sometimes people of wisdom gather in IRC with more than one distribution or OS of experience
[09:19] <dabaR> Glossary: open a terminal, and type ls /home and post the line related to your home folder to this channel, please.
[09:19] <frogzoo> ping
[09:19] <david__> ubotu where can i get drivers for my 536EP data fax modem?
[09:19] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, david__
[09:19] <david__> y not
[09:19] <Glossary> dabaR, root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu/Desktop/Downloads/Data/cpani # ls /home
[09:19] <Glossary> bandmin-install  exim4-install  ftpup-install  hybrid-shells  ubuntu
[09:19] <dabaR> david__: he answers keywords, like...
[09:19] <ardchoille> ubotu: can be hilarious at times :)
[09:19] <ubotu> ardchoille: Do they come in packets of five?
[09:20] <ardchoille> lol
[09:20] <twitch101> ok whatever i give up thanks for tryin to help i guess ill just stick to windows
[09:20] <dabaR> Glossary: sorry, ls -l /home, and only the one line that is for ubuntu
[09:20] <twitch101> laters
[09:20] <dabaR> see ya
[09:20] <david__> sorry
[09:20] <david__> i didnt know it was a bot
[09:21] <Glossary> dabaR,  drwx-----x  47 ubuntu ubuntu 4096 2005-12-07 09:56 ubuntu
[09:21] <mebaran151> yay I got it to work
[09:21] <mebaran151> hal was being mean
[09:21] <Glossary> those other folders other than ubuntu I didnt add them!!!
[09:21] <dabaR> Glossary: if you are the ubuntu user, you have proper permissions.
[09:21] <Glossary> i was installing a huge file.. probably it did that
[09:21] <dabaR> ubotu repos
[09:21] <ubotu> I guess repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[09:21] <Glossary> dabaR, how can i have full access?
[09:21] <ranman> Hello
[09:21] <dabaR> david__: see, that is how he works, only if you have a keyword in mind.
[09:21] <mebaran151> what's a quick way to convert my oggvorbis files to mp3
[09:21] <mebaran151> without losing too much quality
[09:22] <dabaR> Glossary: are you user ubuntu?
[09:22] <mebaran151> 160 ogg to 160 mp3
[09:22] <Glossary> dabaR, yea
[09:22] <dabaR> Glossary: you have full access.
[09:22] <ranman> Hello?
[09:22] <Glossary> dabaR,  how come it sais cant see the folder contents?
[09:22] <dabaR> Glossary: when you install some services, like the ftp you get a folder there.
[09:23] <dabaR> Glossary: show me the error.
[09:23] <Glossary> its when i try to open it with Nautilus
[09:23] <dabaR> ranman: we dont always have time to say hello to everyone that comes in.
[09:23] <dabaR> feel free to ask if you need anything.
[09:23] <ranman> Hi, can you hear me?
[09:24] <dabaR> Glossary: open even just the home dir?
[09:24] <dabaR> ranman: hi,.
[09:24] <dabaR> ^
[09:24] <Glossary> dabaR, wat??
[09:24] <ranman> Oh good I was just confused because of the colors...
[09:24] <dabaR> Glossary: the message about permissions appears when you do what?
[09:24] <ranman> chmod 777 *
[09:25] <ranman> Ha... very funny
[09:25] <Glossary> dabaR, when i double click on "home"
[09:25] <dabaR> Glossary: when logged in as ubuntu?
[09:25] <Glossary> dabaR, yup
[09:26] <Glossary> dabaR, there's a red square with a white X on the folder
[09:26] <dabaR> Glossary: well, it should work, looking at the permissions. did it start after you used chmod 701 /home/ubuntu, like amaranth told you?
[09:26] <Glossary> You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "home".
[09:27] <MAPD> hi
[09:28] <ranman> you need to sudo in and type in "chmod 777 /home/*"
[09:28] <yatesy> err
[09:28] <ranman> and whatever the option to make it recusive is
[09:28] <ranman> i think its r
[09:28] <yatesy> yea thats secure =)
[09:28] <ranman> lol
[09:28] <MAPD> help me pls
[09:28] <ranman> Then learn about chmod and fix your permissions how you want them
[09:28] <dabaR> MAPD: state the issue, pls.
[09:29] <MAPD> for example a pc running ubuntu as a server and two connected to them is it possible to set security permissions on the other two?
[09:29] <dabaR> ranman: he is user ubuntu. the owner and group of directory is ubuntu, and permissions are set to 701.
[09:29] <MAPD> the server blocking ports and stuff?
[09:29] <dabaR> MAPD: a server of what?
[09:29] <dabaR> the Internet connnection?
[09:29] <yatesy> goatse
[09:29] <MAPD> dabaR just a server sometimes they call it a router
[09:29] <MAPD> or something
[09:29] <ranman> Hey Glossary don't do anything I tell you
[09:30] <yatesy> laff u don't even know
[09:30] <Glossary> dabaR, you still remember.. yea it started after the chmod + it started after i cancelled some installation in the middle of it
[09:30] <ranman> OH!
[09:30] <Lenny> are you trying to turn it into a firewall for the other pcs?
[09:30] <MAPD> Lenny me? kind of and sharing internet
[09:30] <ranman> You should Re-install thats really easy just delete everything... unless you have good data then you have to be tedious...
[09:31] <ranman> by delete everything I mean like reformat
[09:31] <MAPD> xspades you meant me right?
[09:31] <ranman> and completly reinstall
[09:31] <dabaR> try then what ranman said: "chmod -R 755 /home/ubuntu" this will make all files in your directory readable to all usrs of the system.
[09:31] <Glossary> dabaR, how can i remove the red square with the X off the home folder?
[09:31] <ranman> but make sure your're internet is turned off
[09:31] <ranman> when you do that
[09:31] <brownie17> mahangu_, why did you say shoot?
[09:31] <ranman> ok
[09:31] <xspades> MAPD: yes, it sounded like you want machine 1 to be inbetween the net and your other pcs
[09:32] <ranman> right click on properties on the folder
[09:32] <dabaR> ranman: can you explain as to why that would be a good idea, and to whom you suggested that?
[09:32] <Glossary> ranman, and?
[09:32] <mahangu_> brownie17, i said, ask away.. i use three different WMs
[09:32] <ranman> and goto permissions and tell me what it says
[09:32] <ranman> it should have lots of little check boxes
[09:32] <tux75> hi there i've some troubles in installing ubuntu on my pc! it damage others partitions fs! can anybody there help me?
[09:32] <Glossary> ranman, yea all disabled..
[09:32] <dabaR> Glossary: the "chmod -R 755 /home/ubuntu" message above was for you
[09:33] <ranman> You might have to sudo in first though...
[09:34] <Glossary> dabaR, ranman  didnt work i still cant get into the folder
[09:34] <ranman> only twenty four mins remaning for all of the packages to be downloaded =) no one cares...
[09:34] <dabaR> MAPD: see, how it works is, there are server programs that can run on a computer. a database server, a web server, a code repository server, a internet connection server. a server program offers other machines services. in your case, if you say it givesother computers the Internet connection, and they call it a router, then it is the Internet connection server.
[09:34] <ranman> One bad thing about ubuntuu is there is no root...
[09:34] <dabaR> Glossary: show me the ubuntu line of ls -l /home again, please.
[09:34] <xspades> ranman sudo -s
[09:34] <ranman> I know
[09:34] <ranman> but its still not the same
[09:35] <Glossary> dabaR, oh ok now it worked i just removed the ubuntu from that line y'all gave me
[09:35] <dabaR> its a feature, not a bug.
[09:35] <xspades> shows me hash, i think root
[09:35] <dabaR> so your /home folder itself was locked maybe.
[09:35] <mebaran151> any ogg to mp3 scripts exist
[09:35] <ranman> Lol... maybe but i like being able to type root on the login and impress all of my friends at school
[09:35] <Glossary> ya dunno
[09:35] <ranman> Uh... try google
[09:35] <yatesy> yea thats impressive isn't it
[09:35] <tux75> nobody can help me?
[09:35] <ranman> tux? what do you need?
[09:36] <dabaR> MAPD: what the internet connection(IC) server does is forward packets to computers it allows on its network. It has total control over what packets it forwards.
[09:36] <ranman> Glossary how recently did you install ubuntu on this computer?
[09:36] <yatesy> and iptables is not for beginners ;)
[09:36] <tux75> i need one help: when i install ubuntu 5.10 on my pc it damage the fs of slackware partition.
[09:36] <tux75> why??
[09:36] <Glossary> ranman, two weeks or smth
[09:36] <yatesy> because you told it to?
[09:36] <MAPD> dabaR
[09:36] <MAPD> can you advise me the programs?
[09:37] <ranman> Glossary: ok then never mind...
[09:37] <dabaR> MAPD: well, is the computer running the IC server program an ubuntu computer?
[09:37] <MAPD> yes
[09:37] <ranman> tux75: Did you check the partitions before you installed?
[09:37] <dabaR> MAPD: who set it up?
[09:37] <MAPD> me
[09:37] <MAPD> im trying
[09:37] <MAPD> :P
[09:37] <MiSS_n00b> is there a way i can drag and drop files from the desktop into /usr folder it keeps saying i have to be root how do i do that
[09:37] <tux75> i only say where mount it.
[09:38] <MAPD> but have others in windows and i wanted them to get access too
[09:38] <Glossary> ranman, why what was the q for?
[09:38] <tux75> how can i check this partition?
[09:38] <dabaR> ranman: you can always enable the root account. read more at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:38] <ranman> Glossary: no reason
[09:38] <dabaR> MAPD: is there an Internet connection on the computers after this one?
[09:38] <MAPD> and im going to run squid too
[09:38] <ranman> dabaR: I know thanks dabaR but i barely every use ubuntu anyway
[09:38] <MAPD> no
[09:38] <dabaR> MiSS_n00b: why move files into the /usr folder?
[09:39] <MiSS_n00b> im trying to install gyache
[09:39] <MAPD> dabaR know what
[09:39] <Glossary> okkay
[09:39] <MiSS_n00b> and i unzipped them to the desktop they were sposed to go in the uisr folder
[09:39] <MAPD> i have to go to school now
[09:39] <MAPD> youll explain me later
[09:39] <MAPD> .)
[09:39] <ranman> Are there any good graphing calculators that you guys would suggest?
[09:39] <MAPD> texas instruments
[09:39] <MAPD> or hp
[09:40] <Glossary> how can i be root??
[09:40] <Glossary> and access all the folders?
[09:40] <SCMark> Glossary: with sudo
[09:40] <MAPD> byebye
[09:40] <ranman> Type in sudo -s and then your pass word
[09:40] <dabaR> Glossary: use sudo. and visit the page I referenced above to learn more.
[09:40] <tux75> Glossary, u must to do: "sudo -s"
[09:41] <dabaR> MiSS_n00b: how do you know where they are supposed to go?
[09:41] <NewIRC> i do a sudo apt-get install xboard , when this command finish ?  where i can find the program ?
[09:41] <Glossary> tux75, dont work.
[09:41] <Glossary> dabaR, what page man?
[09:41] <dabaR> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:41] <highvoltage> what's the package name for the linux kernel sources in ubuntu?
[09:41] <ranman> all: well, goodnight... nice meeting you all hope I wasn't to annoying =) and here glossary http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:41] <MiSS_n00b> well because on my desktop they are in folders like usr/lib/win32/
[09:42] <dabaR> ranman: no, just work onn it some more.
[09:42] <tux75> hey there. nobody know an answer to my problem?? :(
[09:42] <dabaR> ranman: like, not giving advice if you are not sure.
[09:42] <highvoltage> ubotu: kernel sources
[09:42] <ubotu> highvoltage: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[09:42] <MiSS_n00b> etc
[09:42] <ranman> dabar: Ok, lol cya
[09:42] <highvoltage> ubotu: in bits, yes
[09:42] <MiSS_n00b> home/melz/Desktop/usr/local/share/gyach
[09:42] <ubotu> highvoltage: Are you on ritalin?
[09:42] <MiSS_n00b> like that
[09:42] <highvoltage> ubotu: i should be
[09:42] <ubotu> highvoltage: Are you smoking crack?
[09:42] <dabaR> tux75: what would you consider help, as to your install having damaged your other partition?
[09:42] <Madpilot> highvoltage: you can play with the bot via /msg , you know...
[09:43] <highvoltage> Madpilot: yes, sorry.
[09:43] <dabaR> highvoltage: aptitude search source?
[09:43] <highvoltage> dabaR: not much luck there either
[09:43] <Glossary> dabaR, but i need to be root in the graphical thingy.. it sais its impossible
[09:43] <highvoltage> dabaR: sorry, that gives me another result to apt-cache search, somehow
[09:44] <MiSS_n00b> thats what i need glossary:(
[09:44] <dabaR> highvoltage: kernel-source-2.6.10 for example exists, search for kernel-source
[09:44] <highvoltage> hmmm apt-get kernel-source gets a 2.4 kernel. that's weird.
[09:44] <dabaR> Glossary: for what reason do you need to be root?
[09:45] <Glossary> dabaR, i wanna create files and edit them using the Graphical interface
[09:45] <Glossary> MiSS_n00b, :)
[09:45] <Glossary> ubotu, hey
[09:45] <ubotu> hola
[09:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[09:45] <dabaR> MiSS_n00b: did you try running those files while they are where they are?
[09:46] <MiSS_n00b> yes nothing happens
[09:46] <dabaR> MiSS_n00b: nothing never happened, cause its nothing.
[09:46] <MiSS_n00b> if i try moving them like this "mv /home/melz/Desktop/usr/lib/win32/tsd32.dll /usr/lib/win32/tsd32.dll"  it says "mv: cannot move `/home/melz/Desktop/usr/lib/win32/tsd32.dll' to `/usr/lib/win32/tsd32.dll': No such file or directory"
[09:46] <MiSS_n00b> what am i doing wrong?
[09:46] <Razor-X> hy does ndiwrapper refuse to comile on 2.6.12-10-686 ?
[09:46] <Razor-X> *why
[09:46] <Razor-X> *ndiswrapper
[09:47] <Razor-X> *compile
[09:47] <MiSS_n00b> lol
[09:47] <Razor-X> wow, that was a lot of typos
[09:47] <MiSS_n00b> typonese:P
[09:47] <Razor-X> errr, it compiles
[09:47] <dabaR> Razor-X: spam
[09:47] <dabaR> MiSS_n00b: it means the first file name you said does not exist.
[09:47] <Razor-X> but, I try and load it, and it gives me an error of wrong module format
[09:47] <dabaR> MiSS_n00b: what are the files, a program?
[09:48] <Razor-X> dabaR: my thought process isn't efficient enough to catch all my spelling errors in one run-through
[09:48] <MiSS_n00b> yes they are gyach enhanced files
[09:48] <dabaR> MiSS_n00b: so a program?
[09:48] <MiSS_n00b> yes a program
[09:48] <dabaR> and what is the command to run it, gyach?
[09:48] <tux75> dabaR, i reinstalled an image of damages partitions so i need help to install ubuntu without any others troubles.
[09:48] <MiSS_n00b> yep
[09:49] <dabaR> tux75: is it now installed?
[09:49] <MiSS_n00b> command not found
[09:49] <Glossary> lol sweet bot
[09:49] <Glossary> ubotu, how ya doin' ?
[09:49] <Glossary> ubotu, how you doing?
[09:49] <ubotu> Glossary: No idea
[09:49] <ubotu> Glossary: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[09:49] <ubuntu_> yea sorry its Glossary
[09:49] <dabaR> MiSS_n00b: and when you try running it, what exactly happens? remember, nothing can not happen.
[09:49] <ubuntu_> anyway dabaR i said
[09:49] <thoreauputic> ah ubotu is back
[09:49] <MiSS_n00b> root@ubuntu:~ # gyach
[09:49] <MiSS_n00b> -bash: gyach: command not found
[09:50] <MiSS_n00b> sorry
[09:50] <MiSS_n00b> if i try to open it from the gyach icon in the gui it does notrhing:-S
[09:50] <MiSS_n00b> this is so confusing
[09:50] <dabaR> MiSS_n00b: ya, its not in your path at all. but, what exact folder is the gyach executable file in? you can find out by trying to get ls to echo it, or just browse to it using nautilus the file manager window.
[09:51] <Razor-X> or try a ``locate gyach''
[09:51] <tux75> ubuntu is not installed yet. it didn't work
[09:51] <Glossary> dabaR, lossary dabaR, i wanna create files and edit them using the Graphical interface
[09:51] <Glossary> vadimII whats that btw?
[09:51] <MiSS_n00b> home/melz/Desktop/usr/local/bin/gyach is where it is
[09:51] <tux75> so i removed it in the hope of any help from community
[09:52] <Razor-X> MiSS_n00b: then simply ``/home/melz/Desktop/usr/local/bin/gyach'' should work
[09:52] <MiSS_n00b> ooh /home/melz/Desktop/usr/local/bin/gyach: error while loading shared libraries: libltdl.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:52] <MiSS_n00b> ok i need that
[09:52] <Nikusan> What's the difference between restricted copyright and non-free in the repos?
[09:52] <YukiIkyuta> MiSS_n00b, install libltdl3
[09:53] <YukiIkyuta> MiSS_n00b, do you know how to install packages?
[09:53] <thoreauputic> rob1: a member running as root? Strange if so
[09:53] <dabaR> Nikusan: in the repos where? usually restricted and non-free is meant to be same.
[09:53] <MiSS_n00b> sudo apt-get install libltdl3
[09:53] <YukiIkyuta> MiSS_n00b, try a console!
[09:53] <MiSS_n00b> that
[09:53] <MiSS_n00b> is working
[09:53] <MiSS_n00b> ty
[09:53] <thoreauputic> ah he left
[09:54] <MiSS_n00b> a console :O
[09:54] <Glossary> GUYS please help i think ive been HACKED.. whats VadimII !!!!
[09:54] <MiSS_n00b> i'm not called n00b for nothin ;)
[09:54] <rob1> thoreauputic, heck no
[09:54] <rob1> thoreauputic, just messing with #debian
[09:54] <YukiIkyuta> Glossary, no one will listen if you yell!
[09:54] <Durban> hey, can u guys help me, Ive never used Linux, and I just built a 64 bit machine, does anyone know where i can find out if my hardware is compatible
[09:54] <tux75> dabaR, may i hope in your help to understand how intall ubuntu again without any troubles?
[09:54] <thoreauputic> Glossary: what makes you think yoou've been hacked?
[09:54] <thoreauputic> rob1: OK :)
[09:54] <yatesy> Durban: use dmesg and see if its been detected
[09:55] <dabaR> tux75: ask me a specific question, and I will be glad to help. how did the slackware partition get damaged?
[09:55] <MiSS_n00b> well now im getting (gyach:7140): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[09:55] <dabaR> tux75: meaning, in what way?
[09:55] <Glossary> im not yelling dude
[09:55] <liable> rob1: thats a strange thing to say.
[09:55] <MiSS_n00b> i guess i better ask the gyach ppls :-S
[09:55] <Durban> well, My machines not here yet, its shipping from the US, so i was gonna see if i could find any documentation before i downloaded Linux
[09:55] <thoreauputic> MiSS_n00b: don't run it aas root
[09:55] <Nikusan> dabaR, in my sources.list some of the apt lines have restricted, some have both restricted and non-free. So they're the same thing?
[09:55] <thoreauputic> *as
[09:55] <YukiIkyuta> MiSS_n00b, did you install the package?
[09:55] <MiSS_n00b> yeah it installed
[09:55] <YukiIkyuta> Oops, didn't read back ..
[09:56] <YukiIkyuta> Make sure X is open, and make sure you're trying to run gyach as the user logged into X.
[09:56] <tux75> i used simply the installation procedure of ubuntu. about slackware partition i said where mount the partition and not more.
[09:56] <dabaR> Nikusan: you likely have a debian repo, so I suggest you post your sources.list to paste.ubuntulinux.nl, so we can tell you which lines are safe to use.
[09:56] <redguy|work> Glossary: does that mean that you successfully configured apache?
[09:56] <Durban> So does anyone know a good place to find hardware compatability documentation, as well as will this distro work with a 64 bit machine
[09:56] <liable> rob1: well, you just gained the attention of one op...
[09:56] <rob1> liable, no, just checking that they are still running that bot that says "root has landed" when you log in as root (I'm not root btw!)
[09:56] <MiSS_n00b> oh w00t it works tyvm for your help guys:D:D
[09:56] <YukiIkyuta> MiSS_n00b, good job.
[09:56] <rob1> liable, probably
[09:56] <MiSS_n00b> yay
[09:56] <liable> rob1: ok.
[09:56] <tux75> the 1st question maybe: are there installations parameter that i can set to proced "as expert" to have a best control of procedure?
[09:57] <GTroy> Durban: find a local linux group and get a free live cd
[09:57] <chenman> hi
[09:57] <YukiIkyuta> Durban, you bet it'll work with 64-bit.
[09:57] <tux75> the 2nd may be who authorized ubuntu installer to modify slackware filesystem?
[09:57] <dabaR> Nikusan: check out http://gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html for a discussion on categories of software.
[09:58] <Nikusan> thanks dabaR
[09:58] <tux75> 3rd: do you know any step2step installation tutorial, to know how procede surelly?
[09:58] <dabaR> Durban: the wiki.ubuntu.com site.
[09:59] <dabaR> Nikusan: also paste your sources.list to paste.ubuntulinux.nl, cause normally there is no non-free free distinction specifically explicitly mentioned in the ubuntu components.
[09:59] <dabaR> !components
[09:59] <ubotu> components is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/document_view
[09:59] <YukiIkyuta> tux75, *you* authorised the installer, quite likely.
[09:59] <thoreauputic> tux75: you know about #ubuntu-it , right ?
[10:00] <thoreauputic> !it
[10:00] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:00] <Durban> sweet, i just need to find if my Asrock 939 mobo is supported , im pretty confident my ati card will be supported, my mobo just has shit loads of onboard stuff that i need to be supported
[10:01] <dabaR> tux75: if you dont give it permission, or do it yourself, installer does not change any partition.
[10:01] <infectedfx> Hello ppl
[10:02] <dabaR> tux75: unfort, there is only a step by step tutorial for how to go about the "install-on-my-whole-drive" install, which is self-explanatory anyhow.
[10:02] <topyli> tux75: 1. to do an expert install, press F1 to see the boot options. one should be "server" or "expert" IIRC. 2. the installer doesn't modify any filesystems save those you give it permission to
[10:02] <infectedfx> Quick question I donwload I mean install the Enlightenment on my ubuntu, but now I forgot how can I start from there
[10:02] <dabaR> tux75: if you already screwed up the normal install, the expert one won't be much use.
[10:03] <redguy|work> infectedfx: try a longer question
[10:03] <infectedfx> ok :)
[10:03] <joedj> does ubuntu (kunbutu in fact) install things like the XDamage and Composite extensions by default? how would i tell if i have them?
[10:03] <infectedfx> Longer question I donwload I mean install the Enlightenment on my ubuntu, but now I forgot how can I start from there
[10:04] <ubuntu_> IT has something to do with that chmod thing you gave me man !!!!!
[10:04] <tux75> i know #ubuntu-it but people don't seem able to help me, thoreauputic
[10:04] <tux75> YukiIkyuta, i haven't uathorised nothin, expecially fs modification. by the way i have denied any permissions (if provided by default).
[10:04] <topyli> joedj: it doesn't enable them
[10:04] <redguy|work> infectedfx: no go, still can't understand you
[10:04] <GTroy> infectedfx try the login screen under session
[10:04] <joedj> topyli: so they are installed, but disabled?
[10:04] <ubuntu_> dabaR, man!
[10:04] <dabaR> infectedfx: how do you enter enlightenment, is that it?
[10:04] <topyli> joedj: afaik they are part of x now
[10:04] <GTroy> log out, and then select session
[10:05] <infectedfx> ok well I went into the synaptic and install  Enlightenment, I want to use it instead of gnome, but when I boot up to choose the session is not there.. so how can I use it or start using it
[10:05] <dabaR> tux75: how was the partition modified?
[10:05] <topyli> joedj: you can enable them yourself if you want the eye candy (and your hardware is up to it)
[10:05] <joedj> ah, i do indeed have 'em installed (libxdamage1 and libxcomposite1 packages)
[10:05] <joedj> topyli: know how, offhand?
[10:05] <chito> hey
[10:05] <chito> wazup
[10:06] <dabaR> infectedfx: what I would do, is visit the ubuntuforums.org, and search for enlightenment.
[10:06] <infectedfx> ok do u know the website for the forum by chance?
[10:06] <ubuntu_> could someone help me please??
[10:06] <infectedfx> lol sorry
[10:06] <infectedfx> I gotta :)
[10:06] <topyli> joedj: edit xorg.conf. in section "extensions" add option "composite" "enable"
[10:06] <tux75> dabaR, i have slackware on /dev/hda5. after ubuntu installer works slackware askme for fsck manual start coz fs was damaged!
[10:07] <chito> how can i hack user password from yahoo messenger? pls.help me
[10:07] <dabaR> tux75: that is not common. that is all I can tell you about it.
[10:07] <dabaR> chito: what, sorry?
[10:07] <topyli> joedj: in section "device", add option "RenderAccel" "true" and option "AllowGLXWithComposite"
[10:07] <infectedfx> how can i hack user password from yahoo messenger? pls.help me <-- mm dude I think u r in the wrong place.. lol
[10:07] <ubuntu_> dabaR, please man
[10:07] <dabaR> chito: can you explain, using commmon terms?
[10:08] <dabaR> ubuntu_: what is wrong? explain your issue clearly.
[10:08] <joedj> topyli: hrm, i haven't got an Extensions section, think it's ok just to add it? doh, i was explicitly told to set RenderAccel to false by the ubuntu documentation for the nvidia driver :)
[10:08] <topyli> joedj: with ati cards the RenderAccel option should be replaced with "backiingstore"
[10:08] <chito> i want to get the password of my gf in her ym, can u help me?
[10:08] <tux75> ok, thanks for now. i hope to use well your help. i'll say you all when i did.
[10:08] <brownie17> chito, illegal, don't ask here and don't try
[10:09] <chito> ok.sorry
[10:09] <brownie17> chito, why do you want it,there are less illegal methods, pm me
[10:09] <chito> just want help
[10:09] <topyli> joedj: then you can run "xcompmgr -cfF" for example
[10:09] <infectedfx> chito: first I believe u r in the wrong channel , second, u can ask that in a hack channel or crack channel
[10:10] <chito> sorry guys
[10:10] <ubuntu_> dabaR, something called vadimII keeps opening alone and eating my CPU % each time i kill it with the manager it sais it needs the password i put anything and it gets killed + its getting me disconnected whenever it runs
[10:10] <topyli> joedj: the "Extensions" section goes under "the "module" section. but i don't know what it means that you were explicitly told not to do it...
[10:11] <infectedfx> well dabaR I dont see anything about what I ask.. but anyway can u just give me an idea where am I suppost to go?
[10:11] <topyli> chito: ask her
[10:11] <joedj> topyli: the docs for the nvidia driver say that RenderAccel has a slow memory leak/crashing problem
[10:11] <dabaR> ubuntu_: and you used what exact command?
[10:12] <topyli> joedj: bummer :)
[10:12] <ubuntu_> command? System Monitor man..
[10:12] <joedj> topyli: trying it out anyway. will that also enable the XDamage extension, or just composite?
[10:12] <topyli> joedj: oh i haven't tried xdamage
[10:13] <dabaR> ubuntu_: if you use man less, your sentences will be more pleasant to read, as a side note. What command exactly did you run, you said some chmod I told you? i told you a safe command. what did you run?
[10:13] <topyli> joedj: i had fun with composite for like 10 minutes and disabled it then :)
[10:13] <joedj> topyli: hehe, i see
[10:13] <joedj> topyli: what's that xcompmgr command do? it's being apt-got now
[10:14] <topyli> joedj: that's what actually draws the shadows and fade effects
[10:15] <dabaR> infectedfx: I am having a hard time connecting to the forums for some reason.
[10:15] <Fujitsu> dabaR, what do you mean?
[10:16] <ubuntu_> dabaR, the one you gave me i dont know if it has anything to do with it
[10:16] <ubuntu_> how can i just stop it from running like that?
[10:16] <Durban> you know I just really cant find if my Asrock 939 dual motherboard is supported by any linux distros, I dunno what im doing weong
[10:16] <Durban> weong*
[10:16] <Durban> wrong*
[10:16] <UbuKen> Ubuntu is very impressive. Somehow I acquired a low impression of it from other users, but I like what I see. Very well thought-out!!
[10:16] <UbuKen> Durban, what kind of chipset does your mobo have ?
[10:17] <infectedfx> yes dabaR  its ok.. not another question I jkust realise there is more than one Enlightenment enviroment, like e16 or e17 how can I install the laters one? on synaptic?
[10:17] <Durban> let me find out for you, do you also need to know the onboard components, because i have to have those as well_?
[10:17] <infectedfx> another question
[10:17] <UbuKen> Durban, run the command lspci and see what shows up
[10:17] <Durban> im on windows right now
[10:18] <Durban> i have a very slow connection and dont want to spend the time downloading linux if ic ant use it
[10:18] <infectedfx> order the CD Durban
[10:18] <ompaul> Durban, shipit.ubuntu.com
[10:18] <Durban> im running the ULI M1695 for northbridge, and the ULI M1567 for southbridge, and using a realtek sound and lan card
[10:18] <Durban> will they ship to germany?
[10:18] <Fujitsu> Durban, anywhere!
[10:18] <thoreauputic> Durban: sure
[10:18] <Renski> Durban: ..
[10:18] <Durban> sweet
[10:19] <Renski> err
[10:19] <ompaul> Durban, is Germany on planet earth?
[10:19] <Renski> what ompaul said
[10:19] <Durban> will they ship to baghdad?
[10:19] <thoreauputic> Durban: My Cds came from Switzerland actually :)
[10:19] <Durban> sweet
[10:19] <Fujitsu> Durban, who knows.
[10:19] <Durban> lol
[10:19] <ompaul> Durban, if your there you can order
[10:19] <Fujitsu> thoreauputic, the same here.
[10:19] <Fujitsu> ompaul, you're, not your.
[10:19] <UbuKen> poor iraqis aren't allowed widespread Internet access anyways :(
[10:19] <thoreauputic> ompaul: hey, how are you mate ?
[10:19] <Fujitsu> UbuKen, true.
[10:19] <Renski> Speaking of which, I need to order some breezy packs
[10:20] <ompaul> alive and doing a bit o work
[10:20] <Durban> Thats Part of Americas "Fight against terrorism"
[10:20] <UbuKen> Well, we fight a lot of things, sometimes without even knowing it.
[10:20] <thoreauputic> ompaul: OK better than the opposite I guess :)
[10:20] <ubuntu_> dabaR, still here?
[10:21] <Renski> You mean "fight againist tyrants that won't follow our orders"?
[10:21] <Durban> I know, Im an American
[10:21] <Fujitsu> I will take that as a no...
[10:21] <ulinskie> help! I got this error when I am installing my libmms
[10:21] <ulinskie> checking for              glib-2.0... Package glib-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[10:21] <brownie17> Durban, america is fucked
[10:21] <ulinskie> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `glib-2.0.pc'
[10:21] <ulinskie> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
[10:21] <ulinskie> No package 'glib-2.0' found
[10:21] <ulinskie> configure: error: Library requirements (                  glib-2.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.
[10:21] <Fujitsu> Shall we perhaps stay away from such controversial topics, everybody?
[10:21] <Fujitsu> ulinskie, install glib-2.0-dev.
[10:21] <ompaul> ulinskie, paste.ubuntulinux.nl for pasting data
[10:21] <selvia> ghu
[10:21] <Renski> whoops, sorry
[10:21] <rjordan> GW is currently fighting 'all reason' by refusing to participate in the climate change talks.
[10:21] <Fujitsu> Or something along those lines.
[10:22] <Durban> Americas thign sine the 80#s has been basicly, sell them wepaons when there fighting someone we dont like, when their done, fight them because they have weapons (that we sold them )
[10:22] <ulinskie> Fsorry
[10:22] <ulinskie> Fujitsu: thanks
[10:22] <Renski> Fujitsu has point, this is a place to talk about why GW is an ape.
[10:22] <Renski> *isnt
[10:22] <rjordan> ubuken, where do you think you are #ubuntu?
[10:22] <Fujitsu> GW?
[10:22] <Renski> err
[10:23] <Renski> GB
[10:23] <Renski> sorry, using groupwise
[10:23] <Fujitsu> Renski, OK.
[10:23] <Fujitsu> Anybody have any issues that need solving?
[10:23] <Renski> My brain wired back to front, and upside down.
[10:23] <topyli> ulinskie: wouldn't it be easier just to apt-get install libmms in the first place?
[10:23] <topyli> ulinskie: the package seems to be libmms0
[10:23] <melonipoika> hi all, accidentally i changed the permissons to my whole home directory, and now when i start ubuntu i get an error message saying that the file $/HOME.dmrc doesn't have the right permissions and will be omited. I manually changed then to  have permissions 644, but i still get the same error. Is there any way to change the permissions to the default value?
[10:23] <adiabatic> I have an oldish computer that I'd like to have *an* OS on, but I might be giving it away; is it possible to go through the install without putting a password on the one account on the machine, and will this make it, er, easily owned, assuming I don't put an SSH server on it?
[10:24] <Renski> adiabatic: lol, yes
[10:24] <ulinskie> hey...is this a political channel?
[10:24] <ulinskie> I hate politics
[10:24] <adiabatic> Renski: Yes on both, or just one, and if "just one", which?
[10:24] <yatesy> adiabatic: its easy to change using passwd
[10:24] <ulinskie> topyli: did not find it when I did libmms0\
[10:25] <topyli> melonipoika: -rw-------  1 juha juha 24 2004-09-22 00:26 .dmrc
[10:25] <Renski> on the ssh thing, disable it if you have a weak password. I've never been daft enough to try to set a blank password
[10:25] <topyli> melonipoika: that's what i have
[10:25] <joedj> topyli: by draws the shadows i assume you mean locks up hard such that C-M-F1 and C-M-Backspace don't even work? ;-)
[10:25] <UbuKen> melonipoika, I have permissions 600 on my .dmrc , run "chmod 600 .dmrc" in your home directory
[10:25] <topyli> ulinskie: apt-get install libmms0
[10:25] <Renski> ssh isnt the only security risk
[10:25] <topyli> joedj: precisely ;-)
[10:25] <Fujitsu> Renski, all services are security risks!
[10:26] <melonipoika> ok, thanks...
[10:26] <Renski> by having a user password you prevent an attack from gaining access to root privs if he finds another way in
[10:26] <Renski> Fujitsu: exactly
[10:26] <ulinskie> topyli: it says "E: Couldn't find package libmms0
[10:26] <ulinskie> "
[10:26] <UbuKen> melonipoika, you may need to run "chmod -R 600 .dmrc" to set the perms on that entire tree
[10:26] <adiabatic> Well, what services does the default install run? An sshd ain't one of 'em...
[10:26] <melonipoika> i have now all the permissions in home 777, is this anyway dangerous?
[10:26] <melonipoika> (i'm the only user in this computer)
[10:26] <rob1> just do sudo -s
[10:27] <adiabatic> melonipoika: Bad hygiene, but...
[10:27] <Renski> melonipoika: its not smart, no. Just chmod 700 /home/user -R it, if you must
[10:27] <rob1> less typing ;)
[10:27] <Fujitsu> Or -s, yes.
[10:27] <topyli> ulinskie: well, it's in main so it definitely should be there. perhaps your apt configuration is b0rken
[10:27] <kyncani> melonipoika: 600 for files and 700 for directories is sufficient
[10:28] <melonipoika> ok, thanks
[10:28] <ubuntu_> dabaR, wb man..
[10:28] <ubuntu_> (sorry bout the man :P)
[10:29] <dabaR> its ok, depends on how you use it, too. and its ok anyhow.
[10:29] <Madpilot> oddball question - anyone here run their computer's audio into a stereo amp for better sound? any advice for someone considering it?
[10:29] <melonipoika> ah, i see now... but my problem is that i want to access my home directory from other disto and from windows, so with 700 i think i cannot read the files because i'm not the owner...
[10:29] <topyli> adiabatic: it runs no services visible to the internet
[10:29] <ubuntu_> dabaR, so ... did you get my msgs?
[10:30] <dabaR> ubuntu_: no, I never got a chance to read the answer to what command you ran.
[10:30] <topyli> melonipoika: you need to have identical UIDs on the distributions
[10:30] <UbuKen> melonipoika, if you can change your user-id in /etc/password, and chown the files, you could get by
[10:30] <ubuntu_> dabaR, i used System Monitor
[10:30] <melonipoika> ah
[10:30] <ubuntu_> dabaR, it keeps running!
[10:30] <dabaR> no, you used chmod sometyhing.
[10:31] <melonipoika> what is chown the files?
[10:31] <thefish> melonipoika: (ch)ange (own)er
[10:31] <UbuKen> melonipoika, it changes the numeric user ID for the file's owner
[10:31] <brownie17> melonipoika, change owner
[10:31] <thefish> heh
[10:31] <melonipoika> ah, thanks
[10:31] <ubuntu_> dabaR, oh chmod 777 /home i think
[10:31] <ubuntu_> something like that
[10:31] <topyli> NO!
[10:31] <ubuntu_> anyway i think he got in cause of the apache..
[10:31] <thefish> ^
[10:32] <joedj> topyli: nasty stuff =P
[10:32] <oggah> How to view uptime in Ubuntu
[10:32] <dabaR> ubuntu_: well, good work. you allowed every user on the computer complete access to all files, read, write/delete, and run. All files under /home.
[10:32] <Fujitsu> oggah, uptime.
[10:32] <oggah> k
[10:32] <Madpilot> oggah: in a terminal, type uptime or w
[10:32] <topyli> joedj: i don't know what's wrong. Worked For Me(TM)
[10:32] <ubuntu_> ok how can i undo it?
[10:32] <ubuntu_> and how can i fix it?
[10:33] <dabaR> ubuntu_: yes, even an apache user could do it. so it was likely that ranman retard. I would think.
[10:33] <finite0> my problem was actually unrelated to lvm or raid... it was a fiber channel PCI card that I wasn't even using that caused booting to hang. I didn't see this initially because of the "quit" parameter passed to the kernel by grub.
[10:33] <infectedfx> Hello again.. :)
[10:33] <ubuntu_> dabaR, yea i feel like it was him
[10:33] <joedj> topyli: it's the RenderAccel thing, guess they really aren't joking
[10:33] <Durban> Ok Ordered a 32 bit and a 64 bit cd, I hope that if the 64 bit doesnt work, I can get the 32 bit to work like with windows, but imnot sure
[10:33] <dabaR> ubuntu_: well,, first, chmod 755 instead of 777
[10:33] <fatehaze> why are all the system utilities in the menu if you can't run them as a user anyway?
[10:33] <Fujitsu> Durban, 32-bit will work on 64-bit.
[10:33] <infectedfx> ppl what is the diference between hoary and breezy?
[10:33] <fatehaze> and why ask for a password if it just silently quits afterwards?
[10:33] <finite0> why the card didn't bother the livecd or installer, i don't know
[10:33] <Durban> awsome thnx guys, best support chat ever
[10:33] <ubuntu_> dabaR, done
[10:33] <Fujitsu> fatehaze, that will be fixed in Dapper, I believe.
[10:33] <topyli> joedj: yeah. you need an old matrox card like i always buy :)
[10:33] <Madpilot> infectedfx: Breezy is the latest; Hoary is the previous stable release
[10:33] <Fujitsu> infectedfx, Breezy is the newer version.
[10:34] <joedj> topyli: my GeForce2 isn't that far from it... :)
[10:34] <dabaR> infectedfx: a search for "enlightenment" at the ubuntuforums finds many related articles, on installation, and setup, startup, modifications...
[10:34] <fatehaze> Fixed as in removed, or fixed as in allowing you to run programs as root?
[10:34] <Fujitsu> fatehaze, removed.
[10:34] <ubuntu_> dabaR, there is new files in the /home dir!
[10:34] <fatehaze> Gotcha, thanks
[10:34] <infectedfx> ok so I'm in hoary how can I change to breeze?? can I do it from the source.list?
[10:34] <ubuntu_> i didnt download those.. u think that guy did?
[10:34] <lonewolff> hey, has anyone had any sucess getting fglrx to work on 64bit breezy? I have been following a howto and now X wont starts saying no screens found
[10:34] <infectedfx> I found one dabaR but is for breeze
[10:34] <infectedfx> breezy
[10:35] <lonewolff> (i have an ATI Radeon X550)
[10:35] <Madpilot> !tell infectedfx about upgrade
[10:35] <dabaR> ubuntu_: ya, he was the one that suggested the 777 and you had some servers running(they also have users, more vulnerable to cracking)...
[10:35] <kyncani> infectedfx: upgrade to breezy following the wiki page written for that
[10:35] <infectedfx> ok thx Madpilot
[10:35] <dabaR> ubuntu_: I cant do much about what to do, see what specifically has been done, and so on.
[10:35] <Madpilot> infectedfx: np
[10:35] <infectedfx> but honestly.. horay or breezy or doesn't really matter?
[10:35] <fatehaze> is that new linux driver for airport extreme cards ready yet?
[10:35] <melonipoika> i have some more questions :D i have installed a wireless card using nsdiswrapper. It works well, but i have to activate it manually each time i start the system using kwifimanager, even though i checked the box to start automaticly at strat up... any idea?
[10:36] <topyli> ubuntu_: format your /home partition and restore your data from a known good backup
[10:36] <ubuntu_> topyli, i cant do that.. i dont have partition its one HD and plenty of important stuff on it.. isnt there any other way?
[10:36] <topyli> ubuntu_: if you think you're been cracked, you have to reinstall too
[10:37] <kyncani> infectedfx: breezy is the stable release now. If in doubt, use it.
[10:37] <infectedfx> ok thx kyncani
[10:37] <kyncani> np
[10:37] <ubuntu_> dabaR, the 766 chmod protects a little bit
[10:37] <ubuntu_> ?
[10:37] <UbuKen> Hoary... Hedgehog? Hamster?
[10:37] <sanjay> My backports (mirrormax) repository doen't seem to work. is it down? (im on hoary hedgehog)
[10:38] <dabaR> 755 766 still sucks.
[10:38] <XsXs> how do you figure out what version of ubuntu you have?
[10:38] <Fujitsu> Hedgehog...
[10:38] <Madpilot> sanjay: the mirrormax backports don't exist anymore
[10:38] <Fujitsu> XsXs System->About Ubuntu?
[10:38] <Fujitsu> No, actually.
[10:38] <XsXs> nope
[10:38] <XsXs> i looked there
[10:38] <sanjay> Mad: shux : ) - something else i can use to configure all my codecs, etc?
[10:38] <topyli> XsXs: cat /etc/lsb_release
[10:38] <Fujitsu> 
[10:38] <thefish> ubuntu_: 766 will let others write to the files
[10:38] <ludos> can somebody tell me why the regular debian repositories dont work with ubuntu
[10:38] <thefish> ie delete
[10:38] <ubuntu_> dabaR, what can i do other than format??
[10:39] <Nikusan> XsXs, look where Fujitsu says, but look in "core components"
[10:39] <ubuntu_> I cant like.. um, like windows run an antivirus scan or smth i dont know!
[10:39] <tristan> Fujitsu : kanji wo yomu koto ga dekimasen
[10:39] <Fujitsu> I did _not_ change my input method, thankyou very much Uim...
[10:39] <dabaR> ubuntu_: back up your files til you learn how to take care for one. And what, is that vadimII still coming up?
[10:39] <Fujitsu> tristan, I know a little Japanese, but not much. I used to know more.
[10:39] <ubuntu_> dabaR, well it was.. now its not..
[10:39] <infectedfx> hey guys what is the commnad to check which version of ubuntu do I have if is the hoary or breezy?
[10:39] <sanjay> ubuntu_: have u tried fsck ?
[10:39] <dabaR> ubuntu_: well, good.
[10:39] <topyli> ubuntu_: you can try running chkrootkit and rkhunter. of course, you could run a virus scanner as well
[10:40] <ubuntu_> sanjay, whats fsck ?
[10:40] <tristan> Fujitsu : I know a little japanese. I try to learn more ^^
[10:40] <XsXs> thank you for the help
[10:40] <dabaR> sanjay: do you have a clue what the issue is?
[10:40] <ubuntu_> topyli i tried chkrootkit
[10:40] <thefish> hehaha
[10:40] <ubuntu_> gave some things
[10:40] <dabaR> XsXs: cat /etc/issue
[10:40] <Flubby> can anyone tell me the differenses with ubuntu and redhat?
[10:40] <XsXs> sanjay from genmay?
[10:40] <XsXs> :P
[10:40] <topyli> ubuntu_: anyway, since someone has gotten into your system, you should take it offline and reinstall
[10:40] <Fujitsu> tristan, Itry.
[10:40] <sanjay> no sorry daba, ill stay outt've it - just came for help with repositories : ) - na, from India ..
[10:40] <dabaR> topyli: just iinto /home
[10:40] <kyncani> Flubby: yes, distrowatch.com can
[10:40] <Fujitsu> Somebody has gotten in, ubuntu_?
[10:40] <ubuntu_> Fujitsu, yea i think so
[10:40] <tristan> Fujitsu : Nihon anime wo mimasu ka?
[10:40] <Fujitsu> ubuntu_, what has happened?
[10:41] <topyli> ubuntu_: if you think they didn't get to the system itself, it's just your data
[10:41] <Fujitsu> tristan, 
[10:41] <ubuntu_> Fujitsu, vadimiII something i googled it sais ive been hacked
[10:41] <ubuntu_> topyli, but how can i know that
[10:41] <dabaR> sanjay: there are official backports, and codecs arent in backports anyhow, what codecs are you looking for specifically?
[10:41] <sanjay> well - mp3, divx, flac, the basics ... just installed system ..
[10:42] <dabaR> ubuntu_: did you only do sudo chmod 777 /home?
[10:42] <ubuntu_> whats that btw.. Checking `aliens'...
[10:42] <Fujitsu> flac is there, divx and mp3 are proprietary so not there by default.
[10:42] <ubuntu_> /dev/shm/.. /psybnc/nlm/psybnc/rk/bin.tgz /dev/shm/.. /psybnc/nlm/psybnc/rk.tar.gz
[10:42] <ubuntu_> dabaR, yeah only that.
[10:42] <topyli> ubuntu_: logs, modification times, dunno, it does seem like it's just your /home
[10:42] <ludos> can somebody tell me why the regular debian repositories dont work with ubuntu
[10:42] <Fujitsu> topyli, what is with his home?
[10:42] <dabaR> sanjay: visit the wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats page, it tells you what codecs you need for most formats. there is also w32codecs for quicktime, wmv...
[10:42] <dabaR> !w32codecs
[10:43] <dabaR> !+w32codecs
[10:43] <ubotu> well, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-fda9cc5147253891fe3047263b82d787ab025bba to install
[10:43] <ludos> win32codecs
[10:43] <Fujitsu> ludos, I use my 14 CD Sarge set with Ubuntu with care, but they mostly work.
[10:43] <ubuntu_> topyli, its just that this command ./vadimII keeps running by itself.. thats about it
[10:43] <ubuntu_> and eats my CPU usage.
[10:43] <topyli> Fujitsu: he changed the permissions of /home to 777, and has found strange files in there
[10:43] <tristan> sanjay : dowload Esay Ubuntu : it will install all the codec you need, modify your deposits and so on...
[10:43] <sanjay> ok, thanks daba - was using ubuntuguide.org who's info is not updated ... just a note to ppl. who might be using it as well ...
[10:43] <Fujitsu> topyli, odd.
[10:43] <sanjay> tristan: that's Easy Ubuntu? from ... ?
[10:43] <Fujitsu> topyli, what services were running?
[10:44] <oggah> "sudo apt-get install vlc" the player has all the codecs you need builtin.
[10:44] <ludos> all the python packages are broken on the main one and it gives me errors about being unable to retrieve repository information
[10:44] <rob1> sanjay, try help.ubuntu.com instead
[10:44] <ludos> im still using 5.04
[10:44] <dabaR> ludos: short or long explanation?
[10:44] <ludos> long
[10:44] <topyli> Fujitsu: looks like someone's been there. a strange processs running
[10:44] <ubuntu_> dabaR, if it doesnt run again.. im safe right??
[10:44] <topyli> Fujitsu: that's why i recommended a reinstall
[10:44] <ludos>  definitely long
[10:45] <tristan> sanjay : http://placelibre.ath.cx/keyes/downloads/EasyUbuntu-2.4beta4.tar.bz2
[10:45] <Fujitsu> topyli, probably a good idea to reinstall. Must have been ssh or something.
[10:45] <dabaR> ludos: wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth search for binary compatibility, and read the whole thing, it is general knowledge.
[10:45] <tristan> sanjay : I used that to install my codec, modify my deposits and install the mplayer plug-ins for Mozilla
[10:45] <Fujitsu> topyli, have we checked for odd services that could be used to get in? By using netstat for example?
[10:46] <topyli> Fujitsu: no
[10:46] <dabaR> ubuntu_: you seem safe, but, I am not an expert on what can be done. but it seems you will be fine, if you did only what you said here.
[10:46] <cricek> guys I lost my original sources.list for my ubuntu 64 breezy ....I'M ON DIAL UP HELP !!!
[10:46] <ubuntu_> yup
[10:46] <dabaR> !+sources
[10:46] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:46] <ubuntu_> anyone knows where i can get a good firewall or more security ??
[10:46] <dabaR> ubuntu_: books.
[10:46] <topyli> heh
[10:46] <Flubby> Hi guys i want to instal ubuntu to my computer.. what do i haveto do when i have windows:( allready in it
[10:46] <ubuntu_> books?
[10:46] <dabaR> ubuntu_: heh, no, seriously, man chmod.
[10:47] <dabaR> read the online manual for chmod.
[10:47] <ubuntu_> ok
[10:47] <ubuntu_> :)
[10:47] <ubuntu_> thx
[10:47] <topyli> ubuntu_: just don't run services until you've set them up right. the permission thing can happen to anyone
[10:47] <topyli> ubuntu_: once :)
[10:47] <cricek> I need only cdrom link to install office
[10:47] <Fujitsu> Flubby, the installation will resize partitions for you, if necessary. You don't have to do anything.
[10:47] <Flubby> :)
[10:47] <ubuntu_> topyli, okay man, thanks.
[10:47] <dabaR> cricek: you want to add the cdrom to the sources.list file?
[10:48] <Flubby> so i just put the cd in :)
[10:48] <cricek> yea
[10:48] <dabaR> Flubby: you have to select that option.
[10:48] <Fujitsu> topyli, once is correct. Most things only happen once, that rm -rf .* as root, to remove some . files from /root. That was a bad day, although a good few years ago!
[10:48] <cricek> but sources for original cdrom packages
[10:48] <topyli> ubuntu_: you can test run services locally if you set up a firewall. firestarter is a nice one for that
[10:48] <dabaR> Flubby: dont forget to do that. and it is always a good idea to back up data, you never know.
[10:48] <Fujitsu> Flubby, you have to select the option, yes.
[10:48] <ludos> wow this is aggravating
[10:48] <Fujitsu> ludos, what?
[10:49] <dabaR> cricek: man apt-cdrom
[10:49] <topyli> Fujitsu: i also typed rm -rf * into the wrong terminal once. deleted my home
[10:49] <ubuntu_> okay bro
[10:49] <oggah> what do you prefer, xmms or beep-media-player ?
[10:49] <cricek> dabaR, tnx
[10:49] <Fujitsu> topyli, I deleted the entire filesystem...
[10:49] <dabaR> oggah: we dont really prefer polls here.
[10:49] <ludos> nothing,,, im probly way too tired and just not thinking correctly, but i need to upgrade all the packages.. but... i can't get the ones i want.
[10:49] <topyli> Fujitsu: cleanup day! =)
[10:49] <UbuKen> Fujitsu, please stop. You are bringing up repressed memories!
[10:49] <Fujitsu> Well, most of it. I realised what was happening, and stopped it after a number of gigabytes were gone...
[10:49] <Flubby> how do i then determine at the star wich i want to start windows or ubuntu
[10:49] <Fujitsu> UbuKen, hehe.
[10:50] <dabaR> ludos: have all the proper ubuntu repos enabled?
[10:50] <Fujitsu> Flubby, a menu will appear.
[10:50] <Fujitsu> You can then select which you wish to boot.
[10:50] <Flubby> oh this is a smart program
[10:50] <ludos> well i thought the regular ones would work, but they aren't... so i guess i'll have to find others...gentoo was so much easier
[10:50] <Fujitsu> Flubby, it is designed to be as easy to use as possible. It is designed to Just Work(tm).
[10:51] <Fujitsu> ludos, don't defect, please!
[10:51] <dabaR> ludos: for what you need to do, I guess.
[10:51] <tristan> sanjay : did Esay Ubuntu solved your problem?
[10:51] <dabaR> Flubby: it is a large collection, a distribution, of smart programs.
[10:52] <UbuKen> :)
[10:52] <ludos> defect... i was using gentoo before.. then like i always do.. i screwed it up... so I had to reinstall and this was quicker b/c of school
[10:52] <Fujitsu> dabaR, most of them are smart, although some (ie disks-admin) are dumb...
[10:52] <Fujitsu> ludos, ahh.
[10:52] <UbuKen> hej gustav_!
[10:53] <gustav_> hej UbuKen!
[10:53] <ludos> i just want my original setup to work with ubuntu... so i want amarok, enlightenment, mp3's to play, all that stuff.... but apt isn't listening to me
[10:53] <dabaR> ludos: what is it saying?
[10:53] <some_dude> is ubuntu debain based or what ?
[10:53] <Fujitsu> some_dude, yes.
[10:53] <dabaR> ubotu: tell ludos about mp3
[10:54] <some_dude> so i can use the debian packaages, and add the debian ftp to the apt list ?
[10:54] <UbuKen> if ubuntu is debian based, how come I have a kernel made within the past two years ?
[10:54] <Fujitsu> ludos, amarok, enlightenment and mp3 are in the repositories.
[10:54] <Fujitsu> UbuKen, heh
[10:54] <Fujitsu> some_dude, inadvisable.
[10:54] <some_dude> why ?
[10:54] <dabaR> some_dude: no.
[10:54] <dabaR> can someone repaste the URL I gave to ludos ?
[10:55] <Fujitsu> some_dude, there are compatibility issues, I am not sure of the details. THey often stuff up.
[10:55] <dabaR> I dont have copy paste here.
[10:55] <kyncani> some_dude: because they have been compiled with ubuntu's versions, not debian's version
[10:55] <Fujitsu> dabaR, ubotu told him, not us!
[10:55] <sanjay> was just trying to update repositories -- tristan- can u give me cmd line for Esay Ubuntu install ?
[10:55] <some_dude> i did not see a rdesktop for ubuntu
[10:55] <ludos> which repositories?
[10:56] <Fujitsu> some_dude, there is one build in. Not rdesktop, though.
[10:56] <Fujitsu> Application->Internet->Terminal Service Client.
[10:56] <dabaR> Fujitsu: I told him about the wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth page which talks about why and how come the ubuntu and debian packages often differ.
[10:56] <Fujitsu> Oh.
[10:56] <cricek> dabaR, tnx I guess I'ts working
[10:56] <dabaR> cricek: what is?
[10:56] <kyncani> some_dude: rdesktop is in breezy/main. Where were you looking ?
[10:56] <cricek> apt-cdrom
[10:56] <dabaR> cricek: good work.
[10:57] <cricek> heh just .....I have some problems runing this updates on dial-up
[10:57] <cricek> anyone knows if there is
[10:57] <cricek> some kind of CD update site
[10:58] <cricek> where I could get iso for updates ?
[10:58] <dabaR> ludos, do you run hoary or breezy?
[10:58] <kyncani> cricek: where you could download iso for updates ? ;)
[10:58] <dabaR> cricek: an iso for the system security and such updates?
[10:58] <cricek> yeah
[10:58] <melonipoika> has anyone installed kiax in ubuntu?
[10:58] <cricek> exactly
[10:58] <dabaR> cricek: those usually come through apt-get.
[10:59] <some_dude> is there a netinstall for ubuntu, and is kunbunt the same just with kde, i mean do the have the same package site?
[10:59] <dabaR> I have not once heard of a cd for them.
[10:59] <kyncani> cricek: what would be different from downloading through apt-get ?
[10:59] <cricek> Exactly
[10:59] <dabaR> some_dude: yes, they have same repositories.
[10:59] <cricek> well ....I have to move my machine to my friend
[10:59] <topyli> dabaR: there's no such cd. you could download everything under breeyzy-upates and breezy-security and make a local repository
[10:59] <dabaR> some_dude: and yes, the difference is all the kde programs, vs the gnome programs.
[11:00] <some_dude> so who wins ? gnome or kde ?
[11:00] <dabaR> its not a contest
[11:00] <tristan> sanjay : just extract the archive and double click on the EasyUbuntu inside the Easy Ubuntu directory
[11:00] <kyncani> cricek: so ?
[11:00] <cricek> Ok maybe I'll start making this local repos
[11:00] <Fujitsu> Gnome, in my opinion, but they are not competitive.
[11:00] <frogz00> some_dude: no one wins - it's like meat or fish?
[11:00] <Fujitsu> frogz00, perhaps.
[11:00] <some_dude> meat for sure
[11:00] <ndlovu> I'm struggling to set up samba - any idea why there's no "Windows Networking" section in my network configuration?
[11:01] <frogz00> some_dude: cool - more fish for me
[11:01] <some_dude> ndlovu just edit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[11:01] <ndlovu> some_dude: where would I set my netbios name in smb.conf
[11:01] <ndlovu> ?
[11:01] <dabaR> ndlovu: looked at the wiki for samba and smbfs?
[11:01] <topyli> ndlovu: that wouldn't be "struggling", now would it ;-)
[11:01] <cricek> Ok guys tny
[11:01] <cricek> tnx
[11:01] <dabaR> ok
[11:02] <ubuntu_> ok sorry guys
[11:02] <ubuntu_> back
[11:02] <some_dude> ndlovu google a samba 2.x config, they have the netbios name
[11:02] <ubuntu_> :/
[11:02] <Fujitsu> ubuntu_, how goes?
[11:02] <ubuntu_> dabaR, Could not connect to the database server.
[11:02] <ubuntu_>  <- i was installing a client on apache
[11:02] <bob_> hello eveyrbody
[11:02] <ubuntu_> Fujitsu, its all good :)
[11:02] <ndlovu> dabaR: I've checked, but according to the wiki, I should have networking options available that I don't see
[11:02] <bob_> hi
[11:03] <some_dude> ndlovu if you have swat, you can http://localhost:901, but i use vim on the file
[11:03] <bob_> thank you
[11:03] <bob_> i see
[11:03] <ludos> ok how about mplayer...
[11:04] <some_dude> ndlovu i think the netbios name is my default the host name, but you can change it, it's like name=bob
[11:04] <ludos> hmm
[11:04] <topyli> some_dude: it's terrible when you have to look at people's smb.confs after swat has messed around there
[11:04] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell ludos about mplayer
[11:04] <Fujitsu> topyli, I never liked SWAT at all either.
[11:04] <bob_> mplayer is good
[11:04] <some_dude> topyli: swat is sick
[11:04] <bob_> i love mplayer
[11:05] <Fujitsu> mplayer is very good.
[11:05] <oggah> vlc is the shit :)
[11:05] <bob_> yes
[11:06] <ludos> right now im runing hoary
[11:06] <dabaR> it has mplayer
[11:06] <ndlovu> some_dude: thanks, "name = bob" did the trick!
[11:06] <[Jonne] > how do i find out my user's UID?
[11:08] <topyli> [Jonne] : from /etc/passwd
[11:08] <[Jonne] > tnx
[11:08] <Fujitsu> topyli, id will do it!
[11:08] <[Jonne] > was looking in /etc/shadow ... <sighs>
[11:09] <UbuKen> grep `whoami` /etc/passwd | awk -F : '{print $3}' ??
[11:09] <Fujitsu> [Jonne] , you can type 'id' in a console.
[11:09] <topyli> Fujitsu: live and learn! :)
[11:09] <dabaR> id is already there as a program.
[11:09] <UbuKen> ah, thanks Fuji !!
[11:09] <dabaR> live and clog up the space!
[11:09] <ludos> what is 3d desktop?
[11:09] <Fujitsu> Always here for advice, I am.
[11:09] <topyli> heh
[11:09] <Fujitsu> Live, give people advice on Ubuntu, die. Such is life.
[11:09] <dookie> so i've installed the fglrx, but my computer still stalls while trying to boot up ubuntu, it always stops on "starting hotplug subsystem"
[11:09] <[Jonne] > you could've also said it's probably 1000 ;)
[11:10] <dabaR> true
[11:10] <Madpilot> Fujitsu: very deep :P
[11:10] <some_dude> Fujitsu you need advice, don't lick frozen flag poles
[11:10] <_dvm_> hi, can someone help me with a non-repository firefox 1.5 installation and a signed java applet of mine?
[11:10] <BockBilbo> helll
[11:10] <BockBilbo> hello
[11:11] <Fujitsu> BockBilbo, hi.
[11:11] <Fujitsu> [Jonne] , true.
[11:11] <LoPMX> hi
[11:11] <Fujitsu> LoPMX, hi.
[11:11] <LoPMX> what is the name of synaptic manager package?
[11:11] <dookie> i mean it always gets stuck on "starting hotplug subsystem" when i try to get my ati card, whenever i go in using integrated video it just skips that step and says ok to everything else
[11:11] <Fujitsu> LoPMX... synaptic?
[11:11] <LoPMX> i made a server install and would like to add it
[11:11] <_dvm_> The applet needs to install a couple of optional packages (jar files). But instead of firefox asking me if I want them installed I get a user denied installation, even though I did nothing
[11:12] <Fujitsu> LoPMX, it is synaptic, I believe.
[11:12] <LoPMX> ok will try
[11:12] <LoPMX> ah right
[11:12] <LoPMX> i didn't see it previously
[11:12] <LoPMX> btw.
[11:12] <Madpilot> LoPMX: you've added a complete X install on top of your server install?
[11:12] <Fujitsu> Madpilot, synaptic should depend, shouldn't it?
[11:12] <LoPMX> Madpilot: yes i suppose, i got xfce running
[11:12] <LoPMX> ;] 
[11:12] <Fujitsu> LoPMX, good.
[11:12] <topyli> LoPMX: synaptic. it will depend on a big bunch of stuff, and your also need something x-window-system-core
[11:13] <Fujitsu> Mmm. xfce... I was always a Blackbox person for low resource usage...
[11:13] <LoPMX> anyways, so you know the name of a program for setting font rendering?
[11:13] <ludos> ok well im out... i need sleep.. i'll figur this out in the morning
[11:13] <Madpilot> LoPMX: OK, just thought I'd check! ;)
[11:13] <LoPMX> Fujitsu:  yeah, but xfce is like best of quality and small size
[11:13] <topyli> Fujitsu: X clients may not necessarily depend on a working X. there's remote X too :)
[11:13] <adiabatty> I'm planning on installing on a 500 MHz machine...will my system seem noticeably zippier if I use xfce instead of gnome?
[11:14] <dabaR> LoPMX: you use aptitude for installation at the moment?
[11:14] <LoPMX> dabaR: nope, aptget
[11:14] <Fujitsu> adiabatty, probably.
[11:14] <dabaR> LoPMX: just type apt-cache search synaptic and it will tell you.
[11:14] <LoPMX> oh
[11:14] <LoPMX> cool
[11:15] <Fujitsu> Haha. Another Australian!
[11:15] <LoPMX> so, you know the program name which exists in default ubuntu installation for setting font rendering?
[11:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi Fujitsu
[11:16] <LoPMX> you know, i wanna make em os-x like ;P
[11:16] <dabaR> adiabatty: it is more dependent on RAM, and yes, xfce is lighter than gnome.
[11:16] <Fujitsu> Kamping_Kaiser, hi.
[11:17] <Fujitsu> dabaR, I think lighter is a bit of an understatement! Lighter than air compared to Gnome is better, I think.
[11:17] <topyli> adiabatty: how much RAM do you have?
[11:17] <Blaamann> How do I reconfigure X from a terminal (X crashed while updating my system to breezy) ?
[11:18] <adiabatty> 130 MB? That doesn't sound right, does it?
[11:18] <topyli> Blaamann: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:18] <dabaR> not quite. is that what your windows tells you?
[11:18] <topyli> adiabatty: it does sound a bit strange
[11:18] <Fujitsu> adiabatty, 128, I would assume. In that case, xfce is much better.
[11:18] <adiabatty> P3 450, 128 MB RAM.
[11:19] <adiabatty> Final answer.
[11:19] <topyli> heh
[11:19] <Blaamann> topyli: Thanks
[11:19] <Fujitsu> adiabatty, XFCE, definitely.
[11:19] <adiabatty> server install and then install X later, or...?
[11:19] <topyli> adiabatty: gnome will be painful
[11:19] <adiabatty> gnome was sluggish.
[11:19] <ctd> or was sluggish a gnome?
[11:19] <topyli> adiabatty: yeah, server install, then install xubuntu-desktop
[11:20] <frogz00> no gnome slugging here kids - pls play nice
[11:20] <adiabatty> topyli: thanks
[11:20] <dabaR> adiabatty: it will be much faster with xfce(xfce4 is the package) install the server version, then install the xubuntu-desktop after enabling universe(if you are capable of that) I would even consider something like openbox(which I use anyhow on a p4 512 RAM, which is further lightweight.
[11:20] <adiabatty> frogz00: What about darting gnomes to make them sluggish?
[11:21] <Fujitsu> adiabatty, good idea!
[11:21] <yatesy> laff
[11:22] <LoPMX> argh!
[11:22] <topyli> the gnome hits! you are zapped!
[11:23] <brownie17> kde is harder to get used to, but it is better
[11:23] <rowanjl> I'm trying to build an apache2 module, but I have no idea what to point --with-apache-dir=* at, anyone know?
[11:23] <dookie> installed ubuntu this morning and all day it hangs on boot when it gets to "starting hotplug subsystems" at first i thought it was my video card, but all the drivers are up to date so i have no clue. any ideas?
[11:23] <[Jonne] > I have a small question regarding fstab:
[11:23] <frogz00> rowanjl: dunno, /var/www ?
[11:23] <[Jonne] > the following line should mount the pertition with me as owner, right? :
[11:23] <[Jonne] > /dev/sda3		/home/jonne/sda3	vfat			iocharset=utf8,uid=gid=1000,user,umask=000		0	0
[11:24] <dabaR> rowanjl: did you ask this at #apache?
[11:24] <Glossary> why cant i connect to mysql ?
[11:24] <[Jonne] > *partition
[11:24] <Madpilot> Glossary: try sudo mysql
[11:24] <[Jonne] > it doesn't seem to work, it still shows root as owner
[11:24] <frogz00> [Jonne] : mount -a     ?
[11:24] <topyli> [Jonne] : the uid and gid options seem strange. try just uid=1000
[11:25] <adiabatty> "enable universe"...what's in the universe that isn't in the usual sources?
[11:25] <[Jonne] > yes, I do that every time I change the file
[11:25] <rowanjl> dabaR, nope :/
[11:25] <[Jonne] > tried uid=1000, didn't work
[11:25] <Fujitsu> Erm, umask=000?
[11:25] <yatesy> adiabatty: thousands of packages
[11:25] <thoreauputic> adiabatty: about 15 000 packages
[11:25] <Fujitsu> That give no permissions to anybody.
[11:25] <dabaR> Glossary: you should ask at #mysql if you had installed it.
[11:25] <Fujitsu> 15000 packages, yes.
[11:25] <dabaR> rowanjl: feel free to do so if you dont get an answer here
[11:25] <adiabatty> But why are those packages, er, out there and not in the default list?
[11:25] <frogz00> [Jonne] : uid=1000,gid=1000    ?
[11:26] <_max_> does Kubuntu have any tool for using multiple monitors?
[11:26] <_max_> trying to get 3 monitors working =/
[11:26] <thoreauputic> adiabatty: because Canonical can't support all of them
[11:26] <Fujitsu> That is what the MOTU is for...
[11:26] <Fujitsu> *are
[11:26] <thoreauputic> adiabatty: "main" is all supported
[11:26] <yatesy> _max_: use X
[11:26] <_max_> yatsey: i am using x ;p was wondering if there was any gui tool.
[11:26] <[Jonne] > frogz00, the uid=gid=1000 is just a short notation i found in a manpage, or some website
[11:27] <[Jonne] > i tried the long notation, which doesn't change anything
[11:27] <thoreauputic> Fujitsu:  "main" is singular, old chap
[11:27] <dabaR> [Jonne] : the umask is usually 4 digits, afaik.
[11:27] <thoreauputic> Fujitsu: if you want to be pedantic be accurate :)
[11:27] <thoreauputic> ah you meant the MOTU ?
[11:27] <LoPMX> argh, anyone using gnome here?
[11:27] <topyli> Fujitsu: MOTU is plural
[11:27] <topyli> thoreauputic: ^
[11:27] <topyli> sorry Fujitsu
[11:27] <thoreauputic> topyli: right - I stand corrected :)
[11:28] <Fujitsu> Heh
[11:28] <gustav_> LoPMX: most of us I would think
[11:28] <adiabatty> Is LVM a default setting for servers only, or both servers and the default install?
[11:28] <Fujitsu> gustav_, most, yes.
[11:28] <dabaR> haha
[11:28] <Fujitsu> adiabatty, if you choose it, yes, if not, no!
[11:28] <topyli> heh
[11:28] <thoreauputic> Fujitsu: my apologies - one too many beers :)
[11:28] <LoPMX> gustav_: so could u pls check the name of a program for font rendering settings?
[11:28] <[Jonne] > seperated uid & gid, and used an umask with 4 0's, didn't help
[11:28] <Fujitsu> thoreauputic, Heh.
[11:28] <LoPMX> i'd like to install it
[11:29] <Fujitsu> [Jonne] , 4 0s gives no permissions!
[11:29] <rowanjl> Asking for help in #apache is like waiting for it to rain -- in space.
[11:29] <Fujitsu> rowanjl, probably.
[11:29] <dabaR> Fujitsu: in chmod, in umask it gives no restrictions.
[11:29] <topyli> LoPMX: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop. or at least gnome-desktop-environment
[11:29] <Fujitsu> dabaR, oops.
[11:29] <[Jonne] > well, what should i use then?
[11:29] <dabaR> rowanjl: you are just used to us.
[11:29] <LoPMX> nah, i don't wanna gnome
[11:29] <adiabatty> Fujitsu: Well, I opted for the server install, and I was guided toward LVM--I wondered if I'd have been guided to it if I were to opt for a default install
[11:30] <Fujitsu> adiabatty, I can't remember now.
[11:30] <rowanjl> dabaR, yeah :P
[11:30] <gustav_> LoPMX: sorry don't know
[11:31] <rowanjl> Still its better than #php: Ask a question and get 20 people telling you that you're an idiot, why are you doing it that way! and then not offer and help at all
[11:31] <LoPMX> gustav_: try Settings -> Font
[11:32] <gustav_> LoPMX: I know but it doesn't say the name of the program
[11:32] <adiabatty> (reading the Wikipedia article) So LVM lets me, say, shrink / and splice in a, er, slice to mount /home on?
[11:32] <LoPMX> try maybe processes?
[11:32] <Fujitsu> adiabatty, along with other cool stuff, yes.
[11:32] <adiabatty> Neato.
[11:33] <frogz00> [Jonne] : uid=gid=1000 is NOT legal syntax for vfat - use uid=1000,gid=1000
[11:33] <[Jonne] > well, I already did that, but it didn't change a thing
[11:33] <gustav_> LoPMX: gnome-font-properties :)
[11:34] <LoPMX> fuck
[11:34] <frogz00> [Jonne] : this works for me "/dev/hda7       /work           vfat    uid=1000,gid=1000,user,auto,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 "
[11:34] <LoPMX> so it is probably only gnome stuff?
[11:34] <LoPMX> or gtk generally?
[11:34] <Fujitsu> LoPMX, language please.
[11:34] <rowanjl> Ok, so anyone know what package the apache related bin file 'apu-config' is in?
[11:34] <rowanjl> The module wants that too
[11:34] <LoPMX> sorry
[11:34] <[Jonne] > you don't have the iocharset thing?
[11:35] <frogz00> [Jonne] : I didn't retype that ;)
[11:35] <dabaR> rowanjl: did you install the apache2-dev package yet?
[11:35] <rowanjl> dabaR, yep
[11:35] <rowanjl> Thats the first thing I did
[11:36] <dabaR> is there /usr/local/src/apache2 in your system? or do you know where apache sources were put?
[11:36] <rowanjl> dabaR, that dir is missing :/
[11:36] <Enquest> is there a clipboard programe for gnome?
[11:36] <[Jonne] > meh, i think i fixed it
[11:37] <frogz00> cool
[11:37] <Fujitsu> Good, [Jonne] .
[11:37] <Enquest> Something lik klipper in KDE
[11:37] <[Jonne] > mount -a wasn't enough, apparently, I had to umount sda3 first
[11:37] <[Jonne] > does that make sense?
[11:37] <brosiooz> hi where can i found iso of dapper ?
[11:37] <[Jonne] > brosiooz, i don't think that exists yet
[11:38] <dabaR> libapr0-dev has it, rowanjl that apu-config. find where the apache sources were installed.
[11:38] <brosiooz> exists only repository ?
[11:38] <brosiooz> so if i want to use dapper
[11:38] <Fujitsu> brosiooz, why do you want Dapper?
[11:38] <[Jonne] > you have to install breezy, then change your sources.list to include dapper
[11:38] <crimsun> brosiooz: Flight 1: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2005-November/000009.html
[11:38] <brosiooz> Fujitsu more recents packages
[11:38] <[Jonne] > once it updated to dapper, you'll wonder why it's completely broken
[11:38] <[Jonne] > that is normal
[11:39] <frogz00> [Jonne] : sure - you can't have /dev/sda3 mounted twice
[11:39] <crimsun> brosiooz: I will warn you as someone involved in the development process that Dapper is EXTREMELY fragile at the moment. It won't boot on a lot of hardware.
[11:39] <[Jonne] > well, i thought mount -a just unmounted everything, then mounted it again or something
[11:39] <brosiooz> dapper is like debian(unstable) ?
[11:39] <[Jonne] > oh well, learned a little more
[11:39] <crimsun> brosiooz: no, we break it a lot more.
[11:39] <[Jonne] > no, dapper is like windows
[11:39] <topyli> brosiooz: it's more like experimental
[11:40] <frogz00> [Jonne] : nope - mount -a compares mtab to fstab, and mounts anything not already mounted
[11:40] <topyli> [Jonne] : :D
[11:40] <[Jonne] > ok
[11:40] <[Jonne] > tnx
[11:40] <frogz00> yw :)
[11:40] <brosiooz> topyli more ??? but some packages are more old than unstable i see .\
[11:40] <crimsun> old != bad
[11:40] <crimsun> besides, we still have about 170 packages to finish merging
[11:41] <topyli> brosiooz: yeah. it's not a complete sync. i can still guarantee it will break from time to time
[11:41] <dabaR> brosiooz: wwell, for there to be development on a system of a bunch of packages, not all packages have to be constantly developed.
[11:41] <frogz00> old = more known bugs / new = more unknown bugs :D
[11:41] <rowanjl> dabaR, ok, thats installed thanks
[11:42] <topyli> brosiooz: just use breezy, build your own packages from dapper and debian sources for those packages you really need to upgrade
[11:42] <ndee> hey there, I'm playing again around with the Live CD and somehow, I managed to get SPDIF-out working yesterday but I don't remember where I set that setting. I'm using a nforce2 motherboard with the realtek 650 chipset IIRC
[11:42] <dabaR> crimsun: do you have a clue for us? we need to find the apache source dir. or something like that, we need to know what to put in the --with-apache=[dir] 
[11:43] <dabaR> rowanjl: how did you install apache2-dev, it is not a real package.
[11:44] <rowanjl> With Synaptic
[11:44] <dabaR> you installed that particular package?
[11:45] <theonetwo> hello
[11:45] <rowanjl> dabaR, haha, no I installed the ones for Apache 1.3, because I'm an idiot :/
[11:46] <dabaR> thats the easy way out.
[11:46] <rowanjl> I'm installing the correct packages now
[11:46] <dabaR> you did it cause you did not see well, you were in a rush, or so on, now you are gonna take the lesson learned, and next time be more pedantic about it.
[11:46] <poningru> ?
[11:47] <adiabatty> What's apt-get for "update everything I have installed, just like the update manager does"?
[11:47] <gustav_> adiabatty: apt-get upgrade
[11:47] <dabaR> yes, poningru, "?"
[11:47] <poningru> nothing
[11:47] <adiabatty> Just that, eh?
[11:47] <poningru> dont mind me
[11:47] <gustav_> adiabatty: or apt get dist-upgrade
[11:47] <adiabatty> What's the difference?
[11:47] <gustav_> *apt-get
[11:48] <Nikusan> I've downloaded and extracted azureus, but I don't want to leave it in my home folder. Where should I put it? /usr/share? /usr/bin?
[11:48] <testmach1ne> apt-get is the future
[11:48] <dragoon> hey guys
[11:48] <dabaR> testmach1ne: in fact, the user front end is aptitude
[11:48] <gustav_> adiabatty: just upgrade won't install new or remove old packages
[11:48] <testmach1ne> dabaR: yes i know
[11:48] <dabaR> Nikusan: /usr/local/bin maybe
[11:48] <dabaR> testmach1ne: so why spread lies?
[11:48] <adiabatty> I'll go with dist-upgrade, then.
[11:49] <testmach1ne> dabaR: what was a lie?
[11:49] <Nikusan> dabaR: sure, why not :)
[11:49] <testmach1ne> dabaR: i just said that the command apt-get the future is
[11:49] <testmach1ne> thats not a lie
[11:49] <dabaR> aptitude is newer, and a user front end replacement for apt-get
[11:50] <testmach1ne> blerghh
[11:50] <testmach1ne> i dont like front ends
[11:50] <testmach1ne> just use commands
[11:50] <testmach1ne> commands
[11:50] <testmach1ne> commands
[11:50] <dabaR> it is a command
[11:50] <testmach1ne> dabaR: then go use synaptic
[11:50] <gustav_> adiabatty: They usually do the same, just be sure to check which packages that will be removed so that notheing important is removed (that should not happen unless you are on Dapper maybe)
[11:50] <dabaR> and what you like != future by some law.
[11:50] <wam> Where does the ubuntu-distribution come from? Who developed it first? Was it "Canonical Ltd." from the Isle of Men?
[11:50] <adiabatty> And dapper's some bleeding-edge something-or-other?
[11:51] <testmach1ne> i tried dapper sunday
[11:51] <testmach1ne> i think
[11:51] <testmach1ne> but it was verry buggy
[11:51] <dabaR> wma: wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth
[11:51] <testmach1ne> my gnome was like 10000000000000 colors
[11:51] <testmach1ne> and i didnt see really anything anymore
[11:51] <theonetwo> I am utterdapper is not ready for anything useful except self developement
[11:51] <theonetwo> and trying of patients
[11:51] <gustav_> adiabatty: it's the development version that will be released in april
[11:52] <frogz00> dabaR: have you tried just ./configure without setting --with-apache ?
[11:52] <dabaR> frogz00: ask rowanjl please
[11:52] <testmach1ne> breezy is new enough adiabatty
[11:52] <[Jonne] > i ran dapper for a while. the only visible change was firefox deer park, instead of 1.0.7
[11:52] <frogz00> rowanjl: have you tried just ./configure without setting --with-apache ?
[11:52] <brosiooz> dapper has security update or not ?
[11:52] <adiabatty> testmach1ne: heh, almost certainly, especially for this clunker
[11:53] <[Jonne] > xorg 7 probably is important too, but i didn't notice anything different about it
[11:53] <julo> hi
[11:53] <[Jonne] > but i gave up when it hosed my system 3 times in a row
[11:53] <rowanjl> frogz00, yeah, that works now that I've managed to install the correct packages :P
[11:53] <julo> Is it possible to synchronise the clock with a time server on the command line ?
[11:53] <SWAT_work> how can I calculate the power usage of my pc? I want to buy a new graphics card, but maybe then my power supply could be too weak.
[11:53] <frogz00> cool
[11:53] <rowanjl> now it only fails on make
[11:53] <testmach1ne> julo: yes that is possible
[11:53] <rowanjl> utility.h:37:20: error: ap_mpm.h: No such file or directory
[11:54] <rowanjl> make[2] : *** [apache_core.lo]  Error 1
[11:54] <sanjay> it gives me error W: Couldn't stat source package list when i try to apt-get update (after installing most repositories) -- can someone help me with this ?
[11:54] <rowanjl> Yay for user understandable make errors
[11:54] <frogz00> SWAT_work: u want a clamp meter methinks
[11:54] <julo> testmach1ne: any idea how to dit it ? :)
[11:54] <Seveas> SWAT_work, how powerful is your power supply?
[11:54] <Seveas> sanjay, put the complete output on the pastebin
[11:54] <testmach1ne> with ntpdate
[11:54] <testmach1ne> maybe?
[11:54] <Seveas> yuo
[11:54] <SWAT_work> Seveas, hi. 400 Watt, 4x512RAM, 3500+AMD64, 4HD's, 2 DVDdrives etc.
[11:55] <Seveas> julo, sudo invoke-rc.d ntpdate start
[11:55] <sanjay> Seveas: url for pastebin, pls ..
[11:55] <Seveas> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:55] <gustav_> julo: sudo /etc/init.d/ntpdate
[11:55] <brosiooz> dapper has security update or not ?
[11:55] <julo> Seveas, testmach1ne : thanks, that did the trick
[11:55] <Seveas> SWAT_work, that'll be a bit tricky
[11:55] <julo> gustav_: thanks too :)
[11:56] <frogz00> SWAT_work: in "theory" you should be ok - but a lot depends on the ps brand
[11:56] <Madpilot> SWAT_work: there are websites that'll at least provide you with an estimate of power usage, if you plug your components in - check Google,
[11:56] <dabaR> rowanjl: you installed apache2-threaded-dev?
[11:57] <SWAT_work> frogz00, Zalman
[11:57] <rowanjl> dabaR, yep
[11:57] <poningru> SWAT_work: yeah dude I would say upgrade atleast to 500 W if not more
[11:57] <rowanjl> but the developer just told me it needs prefork-dev :)
[11:57] <poningru> SWAT_work: all those HDs and all that ram
[11:57] <brosiooz> pff why openoffice2 isn't on repository!!!
[11:57] <sanjay> Seveas: posted .. (i editted my sources.list file as well - i probably messed up something there or some repositories not working -- but i cant figure out which... lemme know if u want me to paste stuff from sources.list)
[11:58] <poningru> brosiooz: it hasnt been backported yet
[11:58] <adiabatty> If I installed server and wanted to install the usual (sluggish for me) GNOME desktop, what would I apt-get install?
[11:58] <SWAT_work> poningru, hmmmm. I thought something like that. Dammit :-/
[11:58] <theonetwo> openoffice2 is backported isn't it?
[11:58] <poningru> adiabatty: ubuntu-desktop
[11:58] <adiabatty> thanks
[11:58] <Seveas> sanjay, that's not the complete output
[11:58] <poningru> theonetwo: could have sworn it hasnt
[11:58] <frogz00> SWAT_work: http://www.jscustompcs.com/power_supply/
[11:58] <poningru> but could be wrong
[11:58] <Seveas> sanjay, apt-get update spits out much more
[11:58] <sanjay> Seveas: ya, thats just the errors ...
[11:59] <Seveas> sanjay, the complete output please
[11:59] <sanjay> is ok if huge? ill paste the entire ... just a sec ...
[11:59] <dabaR> sanjay: also, if you can by the way post the output of cat /etc/issue
[11:59] <contradictoryben> how do i get the ability to scroll (e.g. with shift + page up ) at the terminal (note not the Xterm or Gnome Terminal or whatever)?
[12:00] <theonetwo> what repostory are you looking at?
[12:00] <rowanjl> no good without the --with-apache-dir, but I still don't know where to point it (#apache is silent)
[12:00] <SWAT_work> frogz00, thanks :)
[12:00] <dabaR> contradictoryben: but the console terminal, like, alt+ctrl+f1?
[12:00] <contradictoryben> dabaR: that's the one
[12:02] <frogz00> contradictoryben: dunno if ubuntu enables the screen buffer by default - might have to turn it on first
[12:02] <sanjay> daba, Seveas: done both ...
[12:02] <adiabatty> What file do I need to edit to tell apt-get not to search the CD-ROM drives for installables?
[12:02] <contradictoryben> frogz00: how would i do that?
[12:02] <frogz00> contradictoryben: yes, good question
[12:02] <Xenguy> adiabatty: /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:02] <adiabatty> thanks
[12:03] <poningru> adiabatty: dude you could have just asked me in #bs or something :)
[12:03] <Seveas> sanjay, looks like your sources.list contains a few errors, could you paste that file on the bin please
[12:03] <sanjay> Seveas: sure..
[12:04] <frogz00> contradictoryben: shift +pgup & you're good to go
[12:05] <dabaR> contradictoryben: itis on by default. shift+pgup does not work? this is just in normal console use, not in screen, or irssi?
[12:05] <rowanjl> Well, if anyone can tell me where --with-apache-dir attribute should point when building a module, let me know.
[12:05] <rowanjl> Even random guesses are welcome :/
[12:05] <contradictoryben> shift + pg up isn't working for me
[12:05] <contradictoryben> dabaR: yeah this is the standard login console
[12:05] <frogz00> contradictoryben: do you have more than one screenful is the question?
[12:06] <dabaR> heh
[12:06] <contradictoryben> frogz00: if you mean, is there text to be scrolled, then yes
[12:06] <Seveas> sanjay, hmm, that sources.list looks ok
[12:06] <frogz00> contradictoryben: oh i c - doesn't look like the console has a buffer - just terminal sessions by default
[12:07] <contradictoryben> that's what i thought - is there a way to give the console a buffer though?
[12:07] <kyncani> contradictoryben: yes, use "screen"
[12:07] <Seveas> sanjay, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*{P,S,R}*
[12:07] <sanjay> Seveas: i had messed with it earlier -- using the repositories from the ubuntuguide.org which were bad -- i removed the references, but i think that might be the root of the error ..
[12:07] <Seveas> and then retry apt-get update
[12:08] <Flessan> G'day
[12:09] <contradictoryben> * is back
[12:09] <LoPMX> hmm how do i enable shadows and transparency?
[12:09] <sanjay> Seveas: sudo rm /var .... gave me error - pasted in bin ... shud i still retry apt-get update ?
[12:09] <kyncani> contradictoryben: "screen" can provide a scroll buffer
[12:09] <contradictoryben> kyncani: interesting ... i'll investigate screen, thanks
[12:10] <kyncani> contradictoryben: and "screen" gives much much more thant a scroll buffer. You really should use it (imho)
[12:10] <Seveas> sanjay, yes
[12:11] <Swall> hi everybody.i am trying to install azureus but having some problems.could anyone help me please
[12:11] <Swall> i am having the following message
[12:11] <Swall> .jar:swt-mozilla.jar:swt-pi.jar -Djava.library.path=/home/fkacani/documents/program_files/azureus org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.Main ''
[12:11] <Swall> StartSocket: passing startup args to already-running process.
[12:11] <Swall> Azureus TERMINATED.
[12:11] <Nikusan> Swall, do you have the latest java?
[12:12] <Swall> jre1.5.0_06
[12:12] <Flessan> I would like to update f/fox to 1.5, have dowloaded it, not sure where to extract it to (have just been born into Linux - less than 6hrs old)
[12:12] <adriann> hey people
[12:12] <adriann> good day
[12:12] <Swall> yes nikusan
[12:12] <Nikusan> Swall, all I did was download the archive from the azureus site, extract and run
[12:13] <Nikusan> and it works fine. Do you need to install it?
[12:13] <Swall> yes
[12:13] <frogz00> kyncani: can you run 'screen' on the console though?
[12:13] <kyncani> frogz00: sure
[12:13] <Swall> i want to play
[12:14] <adriann> i just want to ask
[12:14] <kyncani> frogz00: btw, screen is the best console-app ever ! (not kidding)
[12:14] <adriann> why do my mozilla shuts down automatically
[12:14] <Swall> i am new and dont know how it works
[12:14] <frogz00> kyncani: I don't understand how console logging works then - it pipes it to the screen process?
[12:15] <kyncani> frogz00: screen is an app that you start *after* you've logged in, obviously
[12:15] <Swall> changed nikusan u know whats that passing ardsto ..
[12:15] <sanjay> Seveas: gave me pretty much the same errors : (
[12:15] <onkarshinde> Flessan: you can extract it anywhere you want if you want only for your user. If you want for all then preferably /usr/local. But I would suggest to wait untill it is in main repo
[12:15] <sanjay> Seveas: do you want me to re-paste this output ?
[12:16] <confrey> hi everybody
[12:16] <onkarshinde> adriann: Can you explain the problem more?
[12:16] <Flessan> onkarshinde: ok thx
[12:16] <sanjay> Seveas - on the other hand, these errors dont seem to be affecting my ability to install packages too much - shud i just ignore it for now ?
[12:16] <frogz00> kyncani: you know the console msgs on shft + alt + f8 - you can get these to log to the screen process, rather than the console?
[12:16] <confrey> I need some help to compile a pcmcia wifi driver, can anybody help me?
[12:17] <onkarshinde> Flessan: If you want all users to use it then you will have to create a link in /usr/local/bin to the new FF exevutable.
[12:17] <adriann> u see i am opening a website with a media playing (wma) on the background...and then when i try to open it it says totem cannot play it...then my mozilla shuts down
[12:17] <kyncani> frogz00: i don't understand, what do you mean ? are you talking about the "screen" application ?
[12:17] <Flessan> onkarshinde: i was hoping to place it where the current verion is
[12:18] <Swall> adriann same to me
[12:18] <Swall> it needs some plugins
[12:18] <onkarshinde> Flessan: No you can't. Current version is distributed in different directories. So it is not possible to directly replace it unless you compile from source.
[12:19] <onkarshinde> adriann: for wma you will need to install w32codecs
[12:19] <onkarshinde> !tell adriann about w32codecs
[12:19] <frogz00> kyncani: if you hit 'ctrl + alt + F8' you get the console - can you get screen to manage that display? I thought the usual way was to enable a frame buffer
[12:19] <adriann> thanks
[12:19] <adriann> thanks
[12:20] <adriann> one more thing
[12:20] <Flessan> onkarshinde: thx , guess i got a lot to learn :-)
[12:20] <adriann> the vids i have in mpeg format are not playing so well in totem
[12:20] <confrey> I obtain this error while compiling : /usr/local/src/rtl8180-0.21/r8180_core.c:3632: error: structure has no member named `slot_name'
[12:20] <confrey> ; what can I do?
[12:20] <kyncani> frogz00: when you've logged in, if you've installed screen, just type screen to start the app. Screen will give you as many shells as you want in a single console + scrollback history + you can have the same console in X as in a standard text console.
[12:20] <sanjay> adriann -- u can try downloading vlc , i think ..
[12:21] <frogz00> kyncani: cool, thx
[12:21] <adriann> ok
[12:21] <adriann> vlc? in synaptic?
[12:21] <testmach1ne> vlc is nice
[12:21] <onkarshinde> adriann: Install totem-xine package. It will remove totem-gstreamer but playback is far better.
[12:21] <testmach1ne> i think its in synaptic yes
[12:21] <kyncani> frogz00: + if you log in a distant machine in screen, and your local machine or the network link dies, you don't loose the connection :)
[12:21] <adriann> what could be the best then? i tried totem-xine...it's still awful
[12:21] <sanjay> adriann: ya - not sure which repository - but shud exist in synaptic ..
[12:22] <adriann> another thing
[12:22] <kyncani> frogz00: best console app ever :)
[12:22] <adriann> thanks
[12:22] <onkarshinde> adriann: No it is not. Which ubuntu version are you running?
[12:22] <adriann> 5.10
[12:22] <frogz00> ok, I'm sold - :)
[12:23] <kyncani> :)
[12:23] <frogz00> adriann: gxine is pretty good
[12:23] <onkarshinde> adriann: If totem when totem-xine installed gives you problem then the problem is with file. I use totem for playing all sorts of movies. Of course I have w32codecs installed.
[12:23] <sanjay> Seveas: anything to help with the repository issue ? (or should i just wait till i have 5.10 ...) ?
[12:23] <adriann> ok
[12:23] <onkarshinde> sanjay: what issue are you facing?
[12:23] <Fubber> In gFTP how can I access network servers that I have mapped?
[12:24] <sanjay> onkar: i pastebinned the error messg. im getting from sudo apt-get update
[12:24] <Fubber> so from my desktop, tranfer files on a network server to a host?
[12:24] <adriann> how do i tell my lappy to use a default program?
[12:24] <Ce_Dreaku> hello guys can anyone please give me a really quick walkthrough on using WINE?
[12:24] <onkarshinde> sanjay: link to pastebin
[12:24] <adriann> i'll install w32codecs then
[12:24] <onkarshinde> adriann: default program for what?
[12:24] <adriann> like for mp3
[12:25] <adriann> jsut assigning a certain program..just like in windows
[12:25] <sanjay> onkarshinde: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5475
[12:25] <onkarshinde> Ce_Dreaku: Install wine, then run winecfg and you are done.
[12:25] <Fubber> Anyone?
[12:25] <Fubber> In gFTP how can I access network servers that I have mapped?
[12:25] <Fubber> so from my desktop, tranfer files on a network server to a host?
[12:25] <xxMEL0Nxx> hi
[12:25] <Seveas> sanjay, you can safely ignore the errors, maybe it's a problem at the server
[12:25] <xxMEL0Nxx> can anyone help me?
[12:26] <onkarshinde> adriann: System->Preferences->Preferred Applications
[12:26] <Ce_Dreaku> Onkarshinde: I did that and know what should happen, like should a setup program in windows work like a normal one, I mean I want to install and use some programs for windows
[12:26] <xxMEL0Nxx> I can't mount a new hdd with user write permissions
[12:26] <Seveas> !tell xxMEL0Nxx about anyone
[12:26] <sanjay> Seveas: cool : ) - thanks a million, again ....
[12:26] <adriann> ok
[12:26] <adriann> thanks
[12:27] <poningru> xxMEL0Nxx: how did you try to mount it?
[12:27] <sanjay> just one more question -- is there an equivalent file on ubuntu to the ifcfg-eth0 file in RedHat, and where is it located? basically, in which file does the GUI put my IP addr. settings ?
[12:27] <onkarshinde> Ce_Dreaku: It really depends on what program you are installing. Setup may go fine but the program may not run. Go to www.winehq.com and check applications database.
[12:27] <xxMEL0Nxx> poningru: mount -rw /dev/hdb1 /mnt/incoming
[12:27] <adriann> like .. how can i force my pc to open *.pdf files using Acrobat instead of the default of linux?
[12:28] <onkarshinde> !tell adriann about alternatives
[12:28] <onkarshinde> adriann: there is something called setting alternatives. You will have to search it on wiki
[12:29] <poningru> xxMEL0Nxx: mount -o rw /dev/hdb1 /mnt/incoming
[12:29] <poningru> try that
[12:29] <poningru> if you have to do it that way
[12:29] <Fubber> In gFTP how can I access network servers that I have mapped?
[12:29] <Fubber> so from my desktop, tranfer files on a network server to a host?
[12:29] <onkarshinde> Fubber: what do you mean by servers you have mapped? Where have you mapped them?
[12:29] <adriann> hey...i was trying to install w32codecs but i got errors
[12:30] <onkarshinde> adriann: what errors?
[12:30] <xxMEL0Nxx> poningru: same :(
[12:30] <adriann> it said unexpected end of file in version number in w32codecs,,,blah blah
[12:30] <xxMEL0Nxx> poningru: I can write with root, but none of my users can write
[12:30] <onkarshinde> adriann: from where did you download it?
[12:30] <ulinskie> !help
[12:30] <onkarshinde> adriann: Perhaps file didn't download properly.
[12:31] <ulinskie> I cannot find glib-2.0
[12:31] <adriann> should i redownload?
[12:31] <poningru> xxMEL0Nxx: doh sudo mount -w /dev/hdb1 /mnt/incoming
[12:31] <Fubber> onkarshinde, Ive created maps on Desktop : Places -> Connect to server
[12:31] <adriann> ok
[12:31] <Thorondor> does anyone know why the network settings manager keeps forgetting my settings? my new settings always get overwritten by old ones.
[12:31] <adriann> i am redownloading it again
[12:31] <poningru> Thorondor: when you restart?
[12:31] <Thorondor> for example
[12:31] <Thorondor> even after restarting the network manager
[12:32] <onkarshinde> Fubber: then why do you need gftp to recognize it? You can directly transfer files from that mapping. gFtp is a standalone ftp client.
[12:32] <Thorondor> my WEP-key is an old one
[12:32] <onkarshinde> ulinskie: is it related to some compilation?
[12:32] <Thorondor> as soon as i close the network manager, the connection to my wlan-router dies.
[12:32] <rowanjl> ffs, someone must know where --with-apache-dir needs to point
[12:32] <Fubber> onkarshinde, I want to in gFTP, on the left hand side have my network server and on the right have my webhost, you get me?
[12:33] <xxMEL0Nxx> poningru: same
[12:34] <onkarshinde> Fubber: I don't think that is possible. This seems to be remote copying (copying between two machines on network). gFtp is for transferring between your machine and some network machine.
[12:34] <^BoyHenyo> heloo people!!
[12:34] <onkarshinde> Fubber: You can do it this way. Create mappings for both machnes. And then open that mapping and just copy from one thing to another
[12:35] <onkarshinde> ^BoyHenyo: Hello
[12:35] <poningru> xxMEL0Nxx: make sure the folder you are mounting to has write acess for you
[12:36] <gustav_> adriann: just right-click a pdf file and click at the option furthest down (I dont know what's it called since my Ubuntu is in Swedish) and go to the tab called "open with" and add acrobat
[12:37] <Fubber> onkarshinde, true thanks
[12:37] <xxMEL0Nxx> poningru: yes it has
[12:37] <xxMEL0Nxx> poningru: I can mount an external hard drive to it and I can write without problems
[12:38] <MiSS_n00b> how can i delete two folders from my desktop? they are root
[12:38] <gustav_> MiSS_n00b: open at terminal and write:
[12:39] <gustav_> MiSS_n00b: cd Desktop
[12:39] <gustav_> MiSS_n00b: sudo rm -r NAME_OF_THE_FOLDER
[12:39] <MiSS_n00b> thnx
[12:40] <coz> hello all
[12:40] <coz> are there any utilities to clean up the drive from temp files etc?
[12:43] <xxMEL0Nxx> poningru:mxl
[12:43] <MiSS_n00b> oh fudge
[12:44] <MiSS_n00b> dude man i just done something real dumb lol
[12:44] <MiSS_n00b> i accidently deleted the usr folder
[12:44] <MiSS_n00b> can i get it back
[12:44] <_null> no
[12:44] <onkarshinde> MiSS_n00b: Nope.
[12:44] <onkarshinde> MiSS_n00b: You are doomed.
[12:45] <MiSS_n00b> :(
[12:45] <kbrooks> MiSS_n00b, what usr folder
[12:45] <MiSS_n00b> um
[12:45] <gustav_> MiSS_n00b: unless you trew it in the trashbin
[12:45] <MiSS_n00b> u know the main one
[12:45] <MiSS_n00b> lol
[12:45] <MiSS_n00b> i had one on my desktop called usr too
[12:45] <MiSS_n00b> and i thought i was deleting that
[12:45] <adriann> thanks gustav
[12:45] <adriann> brb
[12:46] <kbrooks>  /usr you mean?
[12:46] <MiSS_n00b> so theres no recycle bin or anything?
[12:46] <MiSS_n00b> yes that one
[12:46] <kbrooks> are you sure you deleted that?
[12:46] <MiSS_n00b> YES very sure im getting major errors
[12:46] <Seveas> MiSS_n00b, then you will have to reinstall
[12:46] <MiSS_n00b> ohh buggerr
[12:46] <kbrooks> did u do sudo rm -rf /usr ?
[12:47] <kbrooks> or are you logged in as root?
[12:47] <rowanjl> Don't want to sound like I whining bastard... but thats exactly how I feel... I still have found no clue about --with-apache-dir, and #apache is silent to my question as per bloody usual
[12:47] <MiSS_n00b> root@ubuntu:~ # cd /home/melz/Desktop
[12:47] <MiSS_n00b> root@ubuntu:/home/melz/Desktop # sudo rm -r /usr/
[12:47] <MiSS_n00b> root@ubuntu:/home/melz/Desktop #
[12:47] <MiSS_n00b> sorry
[12:47] <MiSS_n00b> yea
[12:47] <Chousuke> MiSS_n00b: ouch :/
[12:47] <MiSS_n00b> lol
[12:47] <Chousuke> who told you to do that? ;P
[12:47] <kbrooks> DON'T overuse root
[12:47] <onkarshinde> rowanjl: Can you explain your problem more.
[12:47] <MiSS_n00b> i had to use root coz they were root folders i wanted to delete
[12:47] <Astxist> :/
[12:48] <kbrooks> Chousuke, no one told him/her
[12:48] <Chousuke> right.
[12:48] <kbrooks> MiSS_n00b, SO *why* REMOVE THEM?
[12:48] <Chousuke> kbrooks: no need to shout.
[12:48] <rowanjl> onkarshinde, I need to compile an apache module, but it needs that argument to be set, but I don't know what to set it as
[12:48] <MiSS_n00b> they were on the desktop
[12:48] <kbrooks> MiSS_n00b, don't overuse root!!!
[12:48] <^BoyHenyo> did anyone here know how to connect ubuntu to windows system?
[12:48] <Chousuke> MiSS_n00b: you used the absolute path
[12:48] <gustav_> it was just a extra / before usr that meant doom
[12:48] <kbrooks> MiSS_n00b, so? ~/Desktop/usr != /usr
[12:49] <frogzo1> ^BoyHenyo: terminal server client ?
[12:49] <MiSS_n00b> i mucked up installing sometihing and they ended up on the desktop
[12:49] <Chousuke> you should've rm -r'rf usr/ instead :)
[12:49] <^BoyHenyo> there?
[12:49] <Chousuke> ed*
[12:49] <^BoyHenyo> where can i find it
[12:49] <kbrooks> MiSS_n00b, yeah so?
[12:49] <Chousuke> MiSS_n00b: anyway, you need a re-install. and next time be careful with sudo.
[12:49] <MiSS_n00b> so im a n00b i only started using this linux stuff yesterday:(
[12:49] <Ng> kbrooks: the "n00b" part of the nick shoul dbe the giveaway - everyone mucks up an rm sooner or later :)
[12:49] <kbrooks> MiSS_n00b, reinstall :)
[12:49] <onkarshinde> rowanjl: Oops. Can't help you.
[12:49] <frogzo1> ^BoyHenyo: applications -> internet -> terminal server client
[12:50] <MiSS_n00b> for the 4th time in 1 day:) yay
[12:50] <kbrooks> MiSS_n00b, fine you're a newbie.
[12:50] <frogzo1> ^BoyHenyo: I just add it to the task bar
[12:50] <Astxist> MiSS_n00b, should've used sudo
[12:50] <kbrooks> MiSS_n00b, but at least stop overusing root
[12:50] <Astxist> ;)
[12:50] <kbrooks> Astxist, um doesnt matter
[12:50] <kbrooks> sudo also has a major disadvantage too
[12:50] <xxMEL0Nxx> poningru: problem solved, i recreated the partition using fdisk
[12:50] <Chousuke> should've NOT used sudo :)=
[12:51] <xxMEL0Nxx> poningru: thank you
[12:51] <xxMEL0Nxx> ls
[12:51] <Chousuke> use sudo only if you do system administration
[12:51] <frogzo1> how to get sudo to redirect? eg sudo echo blah > /etc/blah   - doesn't redirect with root permission
[12:51] <gustav_> Did absolutely right exept for the /usr/ instead of usr/. The files were owned by root
[12:52] <Ng> MiSS_n00b: do you have /home on a separate partition? If not, you might want to, it makes re-installing much easier because you don't lose your files :)
[12:52] <Toma-> frogzo1: sudo echo "blah" | tee /etc/blah
[12:52] <Toma-> frogzo1: sorry,
[12:52] <MiSS_n00b> no seperate partition
[12:52] <Toma-> frogzo1: echo "blah" | sudo tee /etc/blah
[12:52] <frogzo1> Toma-: ah, nice thx
[12:52] <Toma-> np
[12:53] <kbrooks> Toma-, er, "tee" -> T. you send data to tee
[12:53] <kbrooks> and tee sends data to the file
[12:54] <kbrooks> and outputs it too
[12:54] <frogzo1> kbrooks: the point is that sudo tee can write files with root perm, whereas sudo echo > can't
[12:55] <kbrooks> frogzo1, all because of the magic of pipes
[12:55] <frogzo1> mind you, that still leaves >> with no sudo
[12:55] <steve_laptop> hello all
[12:56] <steve_laptop> ? whats the command to re-configure X
[12:56] <gustav_> steve_laptop: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:56] <steve_laptop> tnks
[12:59] <dAndy> anyone seen system clock gaining about 1 hour per day on breezy amd64?
[12:59] <Thorondor> does anyone know why the network settings manager keeps forgetting my WEP-key?
[01:01] <Ng> dAndy: does your cpu usage also seem unreasonably high even when the machine is idle? I've seen reports about a problem that shows up with the clock running fast and the cpu high
[01:02] <Ng> dAndy: otherwise it could just be that your motherboard has a cruddy clock (lots of them do) - installing ntp-server should help a lot
[01:02] <dAndy> Ng: i have ntp-server installed, but using /etc/init.d/ntp-server start does nothing
[01:02] <dAndy> Ng: my load average stays right around 0 most of the time
[01:03] <dAndy> DFI Lanparty nf4-D motherboard
[01:03] <dAndy> i run sudo /usr/sbin/ntpd manually just now, it kept running I will see if that works
[01:04] <Ng> "ntpq -p" will query the local server and show you how offset you currently are from the servers it's talking to
[01:04] <Nikusan> my gnome-bt works fine, but azureus wont. it shows the correct number of seeds and peers, but wont connect to any of them?
[01:09] <cafuego> !test
[01:09] <ubotu> Stop poking me!
[01:11] <javahollic> anyone got Firefox 1.5 running on AMD64 yet?
[01:12] <knotty_ian2005> hey
[01:12] <knotty_ian2005> i just wanna ask...this is not really a good question
[01:12] <knotty_ian2005> but i hope i get some help
[01:12] <knotty_ian2005> please
[01:13] <rowanjl> knotty_ian2005, the general rule is that if you need to ask a question, just ask. instead of annoying the hell out of people by asking if you can ask
[01:14] <knotty_ian2005> haha ha
[01:14] <knotty_ian2005> sorry
[01:14] <rowanjl> :)
[01:14] <knotty_ian2005> here's the question
[01:14] <knotty_ian2005> where can i download porns ?
[01:14] <rem_> the question is where CANT you ... ?? lol
[01:15] <Flessan> seek and ye shall find
[01:15] <rowanjl> Something about a new nova organization would be worth searching for
[01:16] <rem_> If an Ubuntu is installed over a Mandrake and I dont format the /home partition will It install Ubuntu and not erase my mdk files ... ? (Just making sure..)
[01:16] <docta_v> nova organization?
[01:16] <rowanjl> Can the hint get any bigger? :P
[01:16] <rowanjl> .org
[01:16] <docta_v> tpb is already there
[01:16] <rem_> ...anyone ?
[01:17] <docta_v> rem_: it won't erase the files in /home if you don't format it
[01:17] <dAndy> Ng: more info, killing ntpd , running ntpdate, running ntpd then monitoring with ntpq shows steadily increasing offsets
[01:17] <docta_v> however, the entire mandrake install isn't in /home it's everywhere else
[01:17] <dAndy> well steadily decreasing negative offsets
[01:18] <rem_> ok...
[01:18] <rem_> thx
[01:18] <dAndy> after maybe 1 minute of time since ntpdate I am about 5 seconds ahead of my top ntp server
[01:18] <docta_v> not sure what you're trying to do
[01:18] <rem_> it sound logical..but you never know ..
[01:18] <knotty_ian2005> where can i download porns?
[01:18] <rowanjl> knotty_ian2005, what kind of prons?
[01:19] <tristan> knotty_ian2005 : best way would be BitTorrent I think
[01:19] <knotty_ian2005> porns...anything
[01:19] <YukiIkyuta> knotty_ian2005, just google?!
[01:19] <Ng> dAndy: hmm, it's been a while since I last had to do it, but ntpd can either slew or step the time, you might want the step option, or there are tools like chrony for badl drifing clocks. not sure what else to suggest I'm afraid - the last clock problem I had was solved by not using an smp kernel, but that was a P4
[01:19] <rowanjl> knotty_ian2005, google for new nova, but make sure it ends in .org
[01:19] <knotty_ian2005> na...googling takes you to paysites
[01:19] <knotty_ian2005> nova waht?
[01:19] <docta_v> knotty_ian2005: have you ever heard of bit torrent?
[01:19] <rowanjl> "new nova"
[01:19] <knotty_ian2005> yeah
[01:20] <knotty_ian2005> i tried bit torrent
[01:20] <knotty_ian2005> but i always end up waiting for nothing
[01:20] <docta_v> then...you suck
[01:20] <dAndy> Ng: well I do have an smp kernel :)
[01:20] <rowanjl> Then make sure you pick a torrent with plenty of seeds
[01:20] <tristan> knotty_ian2005 : that means that you ail? This is really the best way IMO
[01:20] <rowanjl> knotty_ian2005, new nova .org
[01:20] <Ng> knotty_ian2005: does your ISP have a usenet (newsgroups) server? there's always alt.binaries... ;)
[01:20] <rowanjl> haha
[01:20] <DJ_Necrogami> im Recompiling PHP from Source Where do i redirect --with-mysql= to? for mysql Librarys so PHP Builds with MYSQL
[01:21] <YukiIkyuta> DJ_Necrogami, hello to you too!
[01:21] <DJ_Necrogami> hi
[01:21] <Ng> dAndy: hmm, well my problem was that I was running an smp kernel on a single hyperthreading cpu and it was seeing two clock ticks so running the clock twice as fast - I don't think that's the same as is happening to you. perhaps google can turn up something for your cpu/motherboard and clock issues?
[01:21] <knotty_ian2005> ha ha ha
[01:22] <knotty_ian2005> thanks people
[01:22] <knotty_ian2005> u r all great even helping people like me in great needs of crazy things
[01:22] <DJ_Necrogami> anyone know the answer you my question?
[01:22] <melonipoika> hi, i have problems installing eclipse-platform using synaptic, something with the repositories... does anyone witch one contains eclipse?
[01:22] <dAndy> Ng: didnt find anyone with similar issues with my mobo, anyway, It is very possible I am not setting up ntp right, thanks for the help
[01:22] <Ng> DJ_Necrogami: if you have the mysql dev package installed it should find it itself. are you sure you need to compile php by hand though?
[01:22] <DJ_Necrogami> yes NG
[01:22] <DJ_Necrogami> i need mysql support and Fastcgi support
[01:23] <Ng> mysql is available in the ubuntu php package, not sure about fastcgi though. I tend to just rebuild the package rather than build the tarball
[01:23] <Ng> php4-cgi - server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (CGI binary)
[01:23] <Ng> that not do?
[01:23] <docta_v> knotty_ian2005: i messaged you a site to use
[01:23] <DJ_Necrogami> dosnt have mysql support
[01:24] <Ng> php4-mysql
[01:24] <knotty_ian2005> hey docta_v...i did not received anything
[01:24] <Ng> does :)
[01:24] <DJ_Necrogami> cant find it on my list
[01:24] <DJ_Necrogami> not in apt-get
[01:24] <DJ_Necrogami> and i want PHP 5 not 4
[01:24] <Ng> do you have universe enabled?
[01:24] <docta_v> knotty_ian2005: it's in another window...you might want to learn how to use IRC while you're learning bit torrent
[01:24] <DJ_Necrogami> doubtful
[01:24] <Ng> well enable universe and install php5-mysql and php5-cgi :)
[01:25] <DJ_Necrogami> meh
[01:25] <bigfoot1> hi
[01:25] <DJ_Necrogami> im not a fan of packaging
[01:25] <bigfoot1> how can i get japanese text input support in Opera browser?
[01:25] <Ng> DJ_Necrogami: your loss :)
[01:25] <czr> DJ_Necrogami, why don't you use gentoo then
[01:25] <czr> DJ_Necrogami, or build your own (LFS)
[01:26] <knotty_ian2005> i didn't get any window
[01:26] <DJ_Necrogami> because im not a fan of gentoo
[01:26] <Ng> DJ_Necrogami: to be fair, this is an ubuntu support channel, you are asking for php support by not using the packages in ubuntu, imho
[01:26] <kbrooks> DJ_Mirage, so?
[01:26] <DJ_Necrogami> Slackware Debian then Ubunutu
[01:26] <DJ_Necrogami> no
[01:27] <DJ_Necrogami> actaully i was asking where to find the lib for mysql in ubuntu
[01:27] <DJ_Necrogami> so that i CAN build php
[01:27] <Ng> DJ_Necrogami: in apt, of course. look for a -dev package
[01:27] <Seveas> DJ_Mirage, in php4-mysql
[01:27] <czr> libmysql-dev?
[01:27] <Seveas> or php5-mysql
[01:27] <Seveas> or libmysqlclient-dev (oslt)
[01:27] <knotty_ian2005> hey docta...what's the site?
[01:27] <Seveas> use the search, luke
[01:28] <dragoon> well my ubuntu install just finished on my desktop - using it now
[01:28] <dragoon> :)
[01:28] <tristan> docta_v : PM
[01:28] <docta_v> that's what i did man
[01:28] <docta_v> he doesn't know how to use that
[01:28] <docta_v> i think it's a lost cause
[01:29] <DJ_Necrogami> Seveas Ng, i got it
[01:29] <tristan> docta_v : I send you a pm
[01:30] <Ng> :)
[01:30] <bigfoot1> anybody use opera here? I'm trying to get Japanese input support. please help
[01:31] <tristan> bigfootl : sorry no
[01:31] <docta_v> tristan: ah...i hadn't signed in. send again please
[01:31] <som1> why on earth cant i use mpg321? it says "cant find suitable libao driver (is device in use?)"
[01:32] <som1> but it isnt, bullshit
[01:32] <tristan> docta_v : did you get it. I am not use to PM in IRC.... I just clicked right on your name and choose open a dialogue box. Is that the right thing to do?
[01:32] <som1> and that stuff only happens on ubuntu
[01:33] <docta_v> tristan: well i guess it only works if you've identified yourself with NickServ
[01:33] <kestas> som1, I assume you have libao installed
[01:34] <som1> kestas: yea
[01:34] <som1> oh and ogg123 says "cannot open device esd"
[01:34] <Nikusan>  my gnome-bt works fine, but azureus wont. it shows the correct number of seeds and peers, but wont connect to any of them?
[01:34] <YukiIkyuta> som1, tell us what "ps aux | grep esd | wc -l" and "ps aux | grep artsd | wc -l" say.
[01:35] <docta_v> Nikusan: does the firewall test work?
[01:35] <YukiIkyuta> Nikusan, (Mr Meat?!), sounds like your firewall needs fixing ..
[01:35] <bigfoot1> guys, i think i found a webpage that can help me get japanese input into my opera. but i don't know which post, if any, applies to me. Could someone please read through http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76985&highlight=opera+japanese and tell me.
[01:35] <YukiIkyuta> bigfoot1, is Japanese working at all?
[01:35] <YukiIkyuta> As in, can you enter it elsewhere?
[01:35] <som1> its not running
[01:35] <som1> w8
[01:36] <som1> works ok now
[01:36] <som1> thx
[01:36] <YukiIkyuta> x_x
[01:36] <bigfoot1> YukiIkyuta: with uim, i can enter japanese in other programs, such as gedit and openoffice writer, but not opera. i think it's because opera is using QT libraries, or so i hear.
[01:37] <YukiIkyuta> bigfoot1, hmm, I agree. I'm using uim as well, and Firefox won't accept my input either.
[01:37] <YukiIkyuta> Reading that article now.
[01:37] <Nikusan> docta_v, YukiIkyuta firewall is fine
[01:37] <bigfoot1> oneigaishimasu
[01:37] <docta_v> Nikusan: the azureus firewall test passes?
[01:37] <Nikusan> docta_v, it sure does
[01:38] <docta_v> and you don't get any errors on the torrent? like maybe you need to register on the site?
[01:38] <siorai> why am I getting "bash: make: command not found" errors ?
[01:38] <basfrank> hi
[01:38] <Appie1> hi there
[01:38] <YukiIkyuta> bigfoot1, take a look at this http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=434851&postcount=18 and http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=434851&postcount=19
[01:38] <siorai> I didnt' think that was possible, I'm SURE ubuntu comes with MAKE right?
[01:38] <YukiIkyuta> And I think you mean `onegai* shimasu'.
[01:38] <Appie1> can somebody helpme
[01:38] <Nikusan> docta_v, tested the exact same torrent in gnome torrent and it works
[01:38] <YukiIkyuta> siorai, It doesn't come with the GCC system at all.
[01:38] <basfrank> how can i configure my old isa creative sb 16 for ubuntu?
[01:38] <zal> question
[01:39] <wezzer> siorai: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:39] <YukiIkyuta> siorai, it is of course readily available via APT.
[01:39] <siorai> YukiIkyuta,  that's pretty effing basic though isn't it?
[01:39] <zal> i have a password problem
[01:39] <Appie1> does ubuntu uses amd x2 proc
[01:39] <dragoon> make: no target to make.
[01:39] <siorai> Lemme guess liscensing crap?
[01:39] <YukiIkyuta> Wellark, yes, but for the base system, it is left out.
[01:39] <YukiIkyuta> zal, what's wrong?
[01:39] <dragoon> thats on a default ubuntu install with X
[01:39] <dragoon> not server install
[01:39] <YukiIkyuta> Oops ..
[01:39] <Appie1> question
[01:40] <siorai> geeez
[01:40] <Appie1> does ubuntu uses the amd x2 proc
[01:40] <YukiIkyuta> siorai, definitely not licensing. If you follow wezzer's instructions as before (apt-get install build-essential), you'll get all the stuff you need.
[01:40] <basfrank> can anyone help me?
[01:40] <zal> thanks, i installed 5.10 on my ibook and when it restart the log and pass seems wrong
[01:40] <YukiIkyuta> There *is* no licensing. ^^
[01:40] <siorai> so THAT's why none of my make commands ever worked
[01:40] <knotty_ian2005> i have my fat32 partitions mounted already but i can't seem to change the files...how can i change that?
[01:40] <bigfoot1> YukiIkyuta: i read through posts 18 and 19, but will they work with Opera?
[01:40] <siorai> Yeah, but why isn't that basic install ?
[01:40] <YukiIkyuta> bigfoot1, SCIM is said to. That's what I read, at least.
[01:40] <zal> so i have to reset those, is there a way to do it without reinstalling?
[01:40] <siorai> I mean, for petes sake, that really SHOULD be bundled right?
[01:41] <bigfoot1> YukiIkyuta: shall we both try it?
[01:41] <YukiIkyuta> bigfoot1, sure thing.
[01:41] <knotty_ian2005> i have my fat32 partitions mounted already but i can't seem to change the files...how can i change that?
[01:41] <bigfoot1> YukiIkyuta: okay, here i go.
[01:41] <YukiIkyuta> siorai, remember that one of Ubuntu's main concepts is to become a desktop, as well as a developer OS. I suppose that they expect developers can get the build essentials through APT themselves! ^^
[01:41] <basfrank> how can i configure my old isa creative sb 16 for ubuntu?
[01:41] <siorai> Yeah, but, lol, I'm not a developer, ; /
[01:41] <Thorondor> as a desktop user you don't need make. only as a programmer.
[01:41] <dragoon> alsaconf ?
[01:41] <siorai> and I've found uses for that already
[01:41] <Ng> siorai: most users will never need gcc
[01:41] <bimberi> siorai: make is on the CD, but not installed by default
[01:42] <basfrank> thanks
[01:42] <siorai> Gotta be kidding me
[01:42] <Ng> so putting all of the build stuff in the default install is pointless
[01:42] <YukiIkyuta> bigfoot1, APT seems to be missing cim...
[01:42] <siorai> freaking wierd
[01:42] <bigfoot1> YukiIkyuta: do you mean scim?
[01:42] <knotty_ian2005> i have my fat32 partitions mounted already but i can't seem to change the files...how can i change that?
[01:43] <YukiIkyuta> bigfoot1, no `cim' ...
[01:43] <bigfoot1> YukiIkyuta: is that needed?
[01:43] <YukiIkyuta> I would assume so, but I'm not sure.
[01:43] <YukiIkyuta> Let's see ...
[01:44] <Secreth`X> wtf.. FireFox crashes when it plays a video? :X
[01:44] <bigfoot1> YukiIkyuta:  i didn't see the word "cim" in the posts
[01:44] <YukiIkyuta> In #18, the first line:
[01:44] <YukiIkyuta> `sudo apt-get install scim scim-gtk2-immodule scim-modules-socket scim-modules-table scim-pinyin scim-tables-zh scim-input-pad'
[01:44] <siorai> My goal here is to be able to use alien, heh
[01:44] <knotty_ian2005> why do i always get unsuccessful torrent download?
[01:44] <YukiIkyuta> I'll just install scim and see what happens ...
[01:44] <bigfoot1> YukiIkyuta: i see many "scim"s but no "cim.
[01:45] <bigfoot1> yux
[01:45] <bigfoot1> YukiIkyuta: me too
[01:45] <YukiIkyuta> bigfoot1, ah well. Also install scim-tables-ja if you want Japanese support. xP
[01:45] <knotty_ian2005> is there anyway i can force my torrent downloader to move faster?
[01:45] <zal> I have a problem:    ok here is my problem, yesterday i installed 5.10 on my ibook g4 and entered the same log and pass for 2 years. when it rebooted and i tried to log it was impossible, wrong log or pass...so is there a way to reset log and pass whitout reinstalling?
[01:45] <bigfoot1> YukiIkyuta: what do you mean if i want japanese support? Japanese support is all i want..
[01:46] <rss> hi, I have a Microsoft IntelliMouse, its middle button and scroll wheel is not working, what to do?
[01:46] <YukiIkyuta> bigfoot1, I know, it was kind of a joke - I maen, also install scim-tables-ja!
[01:46] <bigfoot1> By the way, Post 20 says he got the debs from a different source http://svn.ubuntu.org.cn/ubuntu-cn/dists/breezy/main/binary-i386/scim/
[01:47] <YukiIkyuta> Hmm.
[01:47] <bigfoot1> YukiIkyuta: but which deb(s) should we d/l and install?
[01:47] <YukiIkyuta> I think you will find that's the same as the normal site.
[01:47] <YukiIkyuta> He dpkg --installed the .deb files directly.
[01:47] <YukiIkyuta> But APT should be fine.
[01:48] <bigfoot1> YukiIkyuta: ok. here i go with the apt.
[01:48] <YukiIkyuta> OK.
[01:48] <mbruemmer> hello having a question again: how do i run the minimal installer script??
[01:48] <bigfoot1> YukiIkyuta: "E: Couldn't find package scim-modules-socket"
[01:49] <YukiIkyuta> bigfoot1, I get similar errors. Just try "apt-get install scim" and it'll do the dependencies for you.
[01:49] <bigfoot1> YukiIkyuta: ok.
[01:49] <YukiIkyuta> I'm going to restart X to see if it works, brb.
[01:50] <_triablo> how to install codecs for kaffeine ? I cp essential codecs in /usr/lib/win32 but does'n work
[01:52] <mbruemmer> hello having a question again: how do i run the minimal installer script??
[01:52] <dragoon> type server
[01:53] <dragoon> what are the codecs called
[01:53] <dragoon> like i know in gentoo there called win32codecs
[01:53] <_triablo> essential from mplayer home page
[01:54] <basfrank> dragoon,  there is no alsaconf inubuntu, is it?
[01:54] <Secreth`X> ubotu: tell dragoon about w32codecs
[01:54] <YukiIkyuta> bigfoot1, it seemed to just make my system run a whole lot slower.
[01:54] <dragoon> yes
[01:54] <dragoon> apt-get install alsa-utils
[01:54] <basfrank> aaaaaha
[01:55] <YukiIkyuta> bigfoot1, plus, it didn't actually work in Firefox either.
[01:55] <bigfoot1> YukiIkyuta: does japanese input work?
[01:55] <bigfoot1> oh
[01:55] <ulinskie> where can I get glib-2.0?
[01:55] <bigfoot1> post 18 says you need to do 2 more sudo commands. did you, YukiIkyuta
[01:55] <bigfoot1> ?
[01:56] <YukiIkyuta> bigfoot1, yes, of course.
[01:56] <SirGir> hmm no "msttcorefonts" for Ubuntu x86_64 ?
[01:56] <mbruemmer> dragoon: sever is the same as minimal??
[01:56] <YukiIkyuta> ulinskie, try "apt-get install libglib2.0-0"
[01:56] <crimsun> !info msttcorefonts
[01:56] <quadra> [ !unload : no module with this name ] 
[01:56] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 164 kB
[01:56] <dragoon> yeah i think so
[01:56] <bigfoot1> YukiIkyuta: if i were using firefox, i think i'd use scim.
[01:56] <YukiIkyuta> bigfoot1, well, it didn't seem to work, unfortunately.
[01:56] <bigfoot1> but because i use opera, i must use try anonther solution
[01:56] <bigfoot1> i see.
[01:57] <SirGir> crimsun, odd, can't find it
[01:57] <YukiIkyuta> SirGir, there seems to be a 64-bit version.
[01:57] <bigfoot1> YukiIkyuta: does it work with other programs?
[01:57] <mbruemmer> dragoon: thank u! 4 ya help
[01:57] <dragoon> no problems
[01:57] <YukiIkyuta> bigfoot1, no more than UIM worked with.
[01:57] <crimsun> SirGir: you don't have multiverse enabled, eh?
[01:57] <dragoon> anyway im off to bed... 23:27 here and i need to be awake at 6
[01:57] <dragoon> ciao
[01:57] <SirGir> crimsun, ah..
[01:57] <SirGir> Thanks
[01:57] <YukiIkyuta> See you, dragoon .
[01:57] <YukiIkyuta> Hm.
[01:57] <YukiIkyuta> 23:57 here.
[01:58] <bigfoot1> YukiIkyuta:  when i was on hoary, i got japanese support in firefox. how about you?
[01:58] <YukiIkyuta> Hah, I never used Hoary.
[01:58] <YukiIkyuta> I started on pre-5.10.
[02:00] <siorai> So, if I'm not wrong, the rpm-4.1.i386.tar.gz has a bunch of files in it's own tech tree that are supposed to go into my file system under the same tree
[02:00] <YukiIkyuta> Sionide, where did you get *that*?
[02:00] <YukiIkyuta> siorai*!
[02:00] <siorai> typing in "sudo tar -x rpm-4.1.i386.tar.gz"
[02:00] <Ng> siorai: rpm is available in apt if you really need it, but you shouldn't really need it
[02:01] <siorai> for alien? said it was required
[02:01] <Ng> ugh, alien ;)
[02:01] <Ng> if you install alien with apt it will install rpm too
[02:01] <siorai> Well, I guess I did it the hard way
[02:02] <Ng> always search apt first :)
[02:02] <Ng> most things you'll want will be in there
[02:02] <siorai> meanwhile my terminal is STILL taking forever
[02:02] <Ng> ?
[02:02] <siorai> typing in "sudo tar -x rpm-4.1.i386.tar.gz"
[02:03] <siorai> which, shuodl do what I want correct?
[02:03] <Ng> nope
[02:03] <siorai> no? lol
[02:04] <Ng> that'll be waiting for you to feed it a tarfile on stdin
[02:04] <siorai> .... to do what?
[02:04] <Ng> you would need tar -xzf foo.tar.gz  (the z means unzip and the f means a file)
[02:04] <Ng> stdin means what you type, basically
[02:04] <Ng> so it's waiting for you to type/paste a tar file into the terminal
[02:04] <Ng> ctrl-c it and install alien with apt, would be my recommendation :)
[02:05] <_triablo> how to set the path to codecs ? kaffeine is very minimal in kubuntu ?
[02:05] <Ng> (tar is a very old program originally designed to work with tape drives, not files, which is why it has some odd behaviours)
[02:05] <siorai> sudo apt-get alien ?
[02:05] <Ng> sudo apt-get install alien
[02:06] <siorai> then why is it practically the ONLY form of zip I see everywhere for binaries and junk?
[02:06] <Ng> ?
[02:06] <siorai> I see all kinds of crap in tar.gz
[02:06] <siorai> all over hte place
[02:06] <Ng> siorai: yeah, the developers of the software just release a tarball, the individual distributions then make packages
[02:07] <Ng> apt-get is installing alien/rpm from ubuntu's servers, not the alien/rpm authors' servers
[02:07] <siorai> ... if it's so old and crappy, why is it still use?
[02:07] <julo> hi again !
[02:07] <Ng> siorai: unix is 30 years old, your argument falls down instantly :)
[02:07] <siorai> ... I knew that, but, wouldn't it be better to get it from the authors? heh
[02:07] <Ng> no
[02:08] <julo> I noticed that Ubuntu doesn't have a /etc/rc.local script. Where should I add a command for it to be launched on boot, after all the services have been started ?
[02:08] <crimsun> julo: man update-rc.d
[02:08] <Chousuke> siorai: if you want the latest and greatest of everything, you can install gentoo
[02:08] <Chousuke> siorai: gentoo makes it really easy to install most recent releases of software.
[02:09] <Chousuke> only you have to do a lot of compiling :/
[02:09] <Ng> and it's way more hacky
[02:09] <siorai> Well, I don't mind doing a lot of work, I really don
[02:09] <Chousuke> gentoo's way is easier for installing packages with restricted licences.
[02:09] <siorai> But I'm rather fond of this community.. hehe
[02:09] <Chousuke> but I still prefer the Debian way :)
[02:10] <siorai> hm, what's the syntax for alien?
[02:10] <Ng> siorai: there's a lot to be said for doing things the hard way - you learn a lot about how the system works. I've been doing it long enough that I appreciate ease of use more than anything now ;)
[02:10] <Chousuke> Probably because my currently borken machine that used to run Debian/Ubuntu wasn't exactly a speed demon.
[02:10] <Chousuke> And I started with Debian too.
[02:10] <Chousuke> my first ever successful Linux install.
[02:11] <siorai> hahaha ng, if I wanted ease of use I'd go back to winders
[02:11] <adiabatty> I don't know why, but I had an easier time with the Gentoo install procedure than I did with the old Debian installer.
[02:12] <Ng> siorai: that's a pretty bizarre argument, but ok
[02:13] <Hentai^XP> hmm
[02:13] <siorai> I'm saying I despise ease of use
[02:13] <Chousuke> Windows ease of pretty much means a lot of wizards.
[02:13] <Chousuke> +use
[02:13] <Hentai^XP> windows, ease of use, hmmm
[02:13] <Chousuke> Windows isn't that good if you just want to get things done.
[02:13] <Ng> siorai: and I'm saying that's a pretty bizarre argument, the easier the system is to use the more time you can spend being productive, unless your goal is to use your system just to configure it ;)
[02:13] <Chousuke> your way, that is.
[02:14] <Chousuke> if you want to get them done the way MS thought you would, then it's nice.
[02:14] <maestro> where can i find a repository list to Breezy 64 bits?
[02:14] <jeremywhiting> Windows idea of ease of use is don't let the user change anything
[02:14] <Ng> maestro: synaptic can show you a full list of available packages, that's probably the quickest way, if you have X installed
[02:15] <siorai> ... I think MS's ultimate goal was to DE nerdify the computer world...
[02:15] <chrissturm> hey! is there a way to convert from ext3 to fat32 without losing data?
[02:15] <Chousuke> jeremywhiting: no. the idea is to let third party software do the stuff for you
[02:15] <siorai> and they almost have, the typical computer user is no long a geek, heh
[02:15] <jeremywhiting> Gentoo's idea of ease of use is don't do anything at all unless the user specifically asks for it to be done
[02:15] <mjr> chrissturm, no free way that I know of
[02:15] <Chousuke> siorai: yes, and it's a good goal
[02:15] <mjr> chrissturm, except, of course, backup, mkdosfs, restore
[02:15] <siorai> Chousuke I hate that idea
[02:15] <chrissturm> mjr: it seems that partitionmagic and partitionmanager also cant do it
[02:15] <Chousuke> siorai: too bad they failed. but it's still profitable.
[02:16] <Chousuke> they only managed to make the UI to emulate a nerd that's controlled by a clueless user.
[02:16] <Ng> siorai: surely linux therefore provides the best solution? the user interface is easy to use, but there is a fully fledged "geek" system underneath if you want to touch it :)
[02:17] <Chousuke> The UI is a bit geeky too
[02:17] <Chousuke> lots of stuff that's of no interest to non-geeks
[02:17] <chrissturm> ng: maybe you are talking about osx?
[02:17] <Chousuke> like interface names in a GUI network interface managers.
[02:17] <Thorondor> does anyone know why the networking manager forgets my WEP-Key? :(
[02:18] <lordlucless> Could anyone help me get ipop3d setup on ubuntu? Ive installed the package, but I dont know how to register it as a service
[02:18] <Hentai^XP> well siorai if you go back to windows, don't run as a admin
[02:18] <Ng> chrissturm: I try not to do that :)
[02:18] <Seveas> lordlucless, the package should do that by itseld
[02:19] <siorai> Hentai, I CAN"T go back to winders
[02:19] <Chousuke> OS X is a nice system too.
[02:19] <Hentai^XP> k siorai
[02:19] <lordlucless> I thought it should - all the other servers I installed did. But I cant get a connection on 110 - is there a way I can re-run the setup scripts from the package
[02:19] <lordlucless> ?
[02:19] <Hentai^XP> and whys that siorai ?
[02:19] <siorai> Well
[02:20] <maestro> Ng, in ubuntuguide.org, show how to install java sun pack, using APT, but this doen't work, have any another way?
[02:20] <dpupp> how do i remove a user and all their files?
[02:20] <siorai> I have a notebook, and my screen is shattered.  Normally, I can just push it out through the external with the touch of a button, but I've killed my notebook keyboard as well
[02:20] <dpupp> i was going to delete a user account but its saying files wont be deleted. and i want it all gone.
[02:20] <_jason> !ubuntuguide
[02:20] <ubotu> methinks ubuntuguide is an unofficial guide written by community members. It is not guaranteed to be up to date, or to work. There is an official guide, at http://help.ubuntu.com which is preferred.
[02:20] <Ng> maestro: firstly, close ubuntuguide and never go back, then look at the restrictedformats ubuntu wiki page, I believe that should tell you how to install sun's java :)
[02:20] <_jason> ubotu, tell maestro about java
[02:21] <jeremywhiting> lordlucless: first verify that it's not running on the port, try netstat -tlpn and see if port 110 is in the list
[02:21] <lordlucless> Nope, nothings running on 110
[02:21] <dpupp> is it safe to delete the home folder of a user that is no longer??
[02:21] <siorai> hm... crap
[02:22] <_jason> dpupp, there is an argument you can pass-- you will want to read the man page "man deluser" since there are a couple of options
[02:22] <jeremywhiting> lordlucless: then see if you have inetd running/installed, maybe it's supposed to use that
[02:23] <dpupp> thanks _Jason.
[02:24] <Hentai^XP> guess I will install debian
[02:24] <siorai> apt-get install java/jre neither worked... how odd
[02:24] <frogzo1> !java
[02:24] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[02:24] <ptlo> hi. is there a mini-cd of ubuntu that i could use just to boot the install process, and do a network install? i wouldn't want to download the entire image for that
[02:24] <lordlucless> ps -ef | grep inetd only returns the grep copmmand itself, so I assume inetd is not running
[02:24] <Ng> inetd isn't installed by default, if that's of any help?
[02:24] <jeremywhiting> lordlucless: and see if there's an init script for it in /etc/init.d/ if so do sudo /etc/init.d/scriptname start
[02:24] <jeremywhiting> lordlucless: you are correct
[02:25] <jeremywhiting> I think, I've never used ps -ef before though
[02:25] <jeremywhiting> what do those options do to ps?
[02:25] <jeremywhiting> yeah, that works
[02:25] <lordlucless> Because I just had a quick look in the man file to see how to list every process and thats what it said :P
[02:25] <dpupp> ok... its not allowing me to delete the user. Not accepting my sudo PW... :(
[02:26] <lordlucless> there arent any /etc/init.d scripts either
[02:26] <lordlucless> Well, nothing to do with pop3 anyway
[02:27] <lordlucless> There's nothing in /etc/inetd.conf about pop3 either, so I assume its supposed to run as a standalone
[02:28] <jeremywhiting> that probably means it's supposed to use inetd and get started when someone connects to that port
[02:29] <lordlucless> But theres no metion of it in /etc/inetd.conf - I thought it would have to be referenced in there to be used with inetd
[02:29] <cricek> guys i need a good ubuntu repository
[02:29] <jeremywhiting> I personally have only used inetd in debian, and haven't been able to use it the same way in ubuntu, but have just installed servers that run as daemons instead of using it so far
[02:29] <cricek> where's that site for repository creation ?
[02:29] <jeremywhiting> it's the lazy way out, don't learn it, just work around it :)
[02:29] <lordlucless> Yeah, no other servers Ive installed are using it atm
[02:29] <Seveas> !tell cricek about easysource
[02:30] <jeremywhiting> I'd do a search on ubuntuforums.org for ipop3d and see what turns up
[02:30] <lordlucless> okily dokily
[02:30] <cricek> Yeah done
[02:30] <cricek> :)
[02:30] <cricek> tnx
[02:30] <frogzo1> jeremywhiting: inetd has security features, or better, xinetd
[02:30] <frogzo1> *xinetd*
[02:30] <trappist> I love qpopper for pop3
[02:31] <frogzo1> !wine
[02:32] <siorai> !pastebin
[02:32] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[02:32] <_jason> what does gnome-pty-helper do?  I have 101 instances of it running
[02:32] <Jowi> hello everyone
[02:32] <siorai> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/452421
[02:32] <bertrand> test
[02:33] <jack_> Hi!! How can I install microsoft fonts such as "Trebuchet"  ..
[02:33] <Seveas> jack_, apt-get install msttcorefonts
[02:34] <_jason> jack-, you'll need multiverse enabled as well
[02:35] <jack_> I have.. I try.. respect to you... haha..
[02:35] <Jowi> jack_: if you already have the fonts on your harddisk you can simply copy them to your /home/username/.fonts directory.
[02:35] <lordlucless_> grr
[02:35] <everton137> Hi, does someone here have upload photos from a mobile on Linux? Any tips? I have a Nokia 6235. Thanks
[02:35] <cricek> Hmm and how to install KDE 3.5 ?
[02:35] <cricek> any idea ?
[02:35] <aeon17x> cricek: get the kubuntu-desktop package.
[02:35] <aeon17x> but wait... that's for kde 3.4, so...
[02:36] <barton__> hello all
[02:36] <aeon17x> I believe there are instructions in the kubuntu site.
[02:36] <cricek> OK i'll try to find em
[02:36] <_jason> can someone do "ps aux | grep -c gnome-pty-helper"  I'd just like to know if having 101 instances of this thing is normal.  thanks
[02:36] <siorai> yea!
[02:36] <siorai> **GOAL ACHEIVED**
[02:37] <MoonRanger> how do you install inetd
[02:37] <barton__> where can I find cedega and it's engine sources for free??
[02:37] <jeremywhiting> _jason: not normal
[02:37] <Jowi> _jason: 1 - but i am not running gnome (may or may not be important)
[02:37] <jeremywhiting> I have one instance
[02:38] <jeremywhiting> and I am running gnome
[02:38] <_jason> jeremywhiting, Jowi: thanks.  Anyone have any ideas why?
[02:38] <barton__> where can I find cedega and it's engine sources for free??
[02:39] <jeremywhiting> barton__ good luck
[02:39] <barton__> :-)
[02:39] <barton__> it is so hard to find it?
[02:40] <Jowi> barton__: not really, but this is not a warez channel.
[02:40] <jareth> barton_: if you want it plz pay for it
[02:40] <chrissturm> barton__, if you want to do warez, why dont you use windows?
[02:40] <chrissturm> that reminds me, i need to cancel my cedega subscription
[02:40] <barton__> I thought that linux open source soft is free
[02:41] <_jason> barton__, if you want to read the source code, I believe it is available on the main site.  try googling "cedega source".  Although I don't use cedega so I don't know what the "cdega engine" refers to
[02:41] <Ng> barton__: you can download the cedega source and compile it yourself
[02:41] <everton137> haha
[02:41] <everton137> (wasntme)
[02:41] <Ng> barton__: you won't get all of the features though
[02:41] <aeon17x> barton__: "free" doesn't mean it's in price.
[02:41] <chrissturm> cedega only runs acceptable on nvidia cards
[02:41] <Ng> barton__: some software is open source, but not all of it, there is plenty of commercial software for linux if you want to pay for it, but thankfully most of the time you don't need to :)
[02:41] <barton__> I have one
[02:41] <_jason> barton__, http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
[02:42] <barton__> Ng: so there no warez for windows at all? (((
[02:43] <Ng> barton__: I expect there is a lot of warez for windows, but I don't care about either
[02:43] <barton__> :) but I don't need cedega in Windows
[02:44] <Ng> so download the cedega source and compile it yourself, problem solved
[02:44] <Ng> or pay $15
[02:44] <jareth> barton_: support the developpers and buy cedega. you will get full-feature
[02:44] <barton__> thanks
[02:45] <Jowi> barton__: if you're trying to just get an older game going, try wine. sometimes it is good enough to work.
[02:46] <schmoe> hey there - anyone like to talk kphone/fwd/nufone/800-number? :D
[02:47] <barton__> and what can I use in Ububntu for MuOnline going?
[02:47] <ZigZag> Hi! Does anyone know how to enable a PS2 wireless mouse via a PS2->USB adapter in ubuntu?
[02:47] <ZigZag> I need it real bad, a school project is depending on this
[02:47] <sig> lately I've been getting errors after my laptop has been on for a few days.... What happens is I click an application and it fails to start.. (firefox, evolution, etc...). I get failed to write to read system only. Has anyone else been getting these errors?
[02:48] <poningru> Zibby: um the ps2 mouse should be detected automatically
[02:49] <poningru> can you give the model number?
[02:49] <ZigZag> poningru: we've tried like three of them now. most of them are logitech
[02:50] <Ng> sig: does the laptop go into suspend/hibernate modes? sometimes that can confuse things and it doesn't restore properly
[02:50] <ZigZag> poningru: it's a liveCD version too, I should add
[02:50] <Ng> sig: otherwise, you might want to run memtest for a while on it
[02:50] <sig> Ng: yeah it started doing this when I upgraded to the latest kernel
[02:50] <Jowi> ZigZag: question is, would you try to detect the mouse as usb or ps2 when it is connected like that?
[02:50] <ZigZag> it doesn't recognize it... which maybe isn't very strange since it's going through a PS2-to-USB adapter
[02:51] <ZigZag> Jowi: precisely. I don't know. But it didn't autodetect on boot
[02:51] <poningru> ZigZag: why arent you directly connecting the ps2?
[02:51] <Ng> sig: hmm, in that case you should definitely report a bug to ubuntu
[02:51] <ZigZag> poningru: no ps2 port :/
[02:51] <poningru> oh doh
[02:51] <poningru> hehe
[02:51] <phiqtion> how can i get azureus on ubuntu?
[02:51] <ZigZag> poningru: otherwise I wouldn't be panicking and asking around irc...
[02:51] <sig> Ng: ok
[02:51] <poningru> ZigZag: true
[02:52] <poningru> !azureus
[02:52] <ubotu> it has been said that azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[02:52] <ZigZag> poningru: any ideas?
[02:52] <Ng> sig: also might be worth downgrading the kernel and see if it still happens
[02:52] <sig> yeah
[02:52] <poningru> ZigZag: yeah there was a howto written for logitech mouse
[02:52] <phiqtion> poningru: thanks
[02:52] <poningru> trying to find it
[02:52] <ZigZag> poningru: thx
[02:52] <poningru> but which model was it again?
[02:52] <Jowi> ZigZag: well, when you configure the kernel by hand, i have not seen a mousedriver like that. either USB, PS/2 or Serial are supported as far as I have seen. No idea how the kernel would make of a connection like that. See if you can get a "normal" mouse to work first, without an adapter.
[02:52] <sanjay> does BitTorrent still work ?
[02:53] <poningru> ZigZag: wait you are not using the livecd right?
[02:53] <deltron_> I use the bittorrent commandline :P
[02:53] <phiqtion> poningru: you're the man
[02:53] <ZigZag> Jowi: normal mice work just fine. both wireless and regular. just not with the adapter.
[02:53] <ZigZag> poningru: yes I am
[02:53] <ZigZag> why?
[02:53] <poningru> ZigZag: hmm that might cause problems supposedly
[02:54] <ZigZag> poningru: with adapters specifically? I'm willing to do hackish stuff like rebooting xorg and stuff...
[02:54] <poningru> dude when the live cd boots up go for options, and then try to look for usb
[02:54] <Ng> ZigZag: did the adapter come with the mouse?
[02:54] <ZigZag> Ng: no.
[02:55] <Ng> give up
[02:55] <ZigZag> Ng: why?
[02:55] <poningru> oh ZigZag then its not going to work
[02:55] <poningru> oh well maybe it will
[02:55] <Ng> generally the adapters are pretty dumb, the mouse detects which kind of port it's in and behaves differently
[02:55] <ZigZag> but how are they supposed to work otherwise?
[02:56] <Jowi> ZigZag: you probably would need a special driver for the adapter itself.
[02:56] <Ng> so if it's a mouse that doesn't know how to be both ps2 and usb it won't work
[02:56] <poningru> ZigZag: the problem is with usb mouse dont have a standard protocols
[02:56] <Ng> unless the adapter is able to do the translation itself
[02:56] <USER014921> WORKS1
[02:56] <ZigZag> ok. the adapter looks pretty generic... we got it here at uni
[02:56] <Ng> but if it's a little tiny plastic thing from another mouse it almost certainl can't
[02:56] <ZigZag> Ng: ok
[02:56] <poningru> ZigZag: whats the model of the adapter?
[02:56] <cricek> hmmm win32codecs repository ?
[02:57] <poningru> !win32codecs
[02:57] <ubotu> methinks win32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[02:57] <ZigZag> how do you check that?
[02:57] <ZigZag> it's just a wire
[02:57] <poningru> ZigZag: should be on the adapter somewhere
[02:57] <poningru> oh
[02:57] <poningru> hmm what about the packaging or something
[02:57] <ZigZag> the wire says things like HAURTIAN
[02:57] <ZigZag> have no package
[02:57] <ZigZag> just found the wire =)
[02:57] <poningru> wtf
[02:58] <ZigZag> the ports are right. must be an adapter
[02:58] <poningru> haurtian what?
[02:58] <ZigZag> LL112842
[02:59] <ZigZag> AWM I/II A FT2
[02:59] <ZigZag> where are you looking poningru?
[02:59] <Tenoch> Hi
[02:59] <poningru> ZigZag: just google
[03:00] <ZigZag> poningru: I've been googling my ass off lately... seem to be googling wrong somehow =))
[03:00] <Kimppa> Hi. I killed esd "killall esd" and now I need to restart it.. but don't know quite how? :P
[03:01] <poningru> ZigZag: yeah dude this thing would need some sort of driver or something
[03:01] <poningru> I cant find it on google at all
[03:02] <Jowi> ZigZag: the color of the PS/2, is it green or purple?
[03:02] <poningru> ZigZag: what do you need to do? as in why are you using the livecd?
[03:02] <Bizzeh> hey, is there any way to get ubuntu to install to a second partiton and NOT kill the xp boot sector on the main partition
[03:02] <poningru> Bizzeh: ofcourse
[03:02] <ZigZag> Jowi: I have both. plugged in to the green one, it has a small mouse painted on it
[03:02] <Bizzeh> even if i tell it to install to the partition and NOT the mbr, it still fucks with the mbr
[03:03] <poningru> Bizzeh: it probably installed grub
[03:03] <Jowi> ZigZag: yeah, green is for mouse alright. similar to this one: http://www.usbgear.com/USB_TO_PS2_CONVERTER/
[03:03] <poningru> you should have have it not install grub
[03:03] <Bizzeh> when i told it not to do?
[03:03] <Bizzeh> "install boot loader to this parition"
[03:03] <Kimppa> any ideas how I can get esd back up?
[03:03] <poningru> Bizzeh: how did you tell it not to install grub?
[03:03] <ZigZag> poningru: using a laptop that isn't mine.
[03:03] <keizers> hello guys, is there anybody who know printing?
[03:04] <poningru> ZigZag: ah ic
[03:04] <Bizzeh> i told it to just use the partition its on, and keep away from everything else, everything else is out of bounds, do not touch anything outside hda2
[03:04] <ZigZag> Jowi: looks like that yes
[03:04] <poningru> Bizzeh: I dont understand what you are saying how did you tell it to do that?
[03:04] <ZigZag> similar at least, the ports are the same
[03:04] <poningru> during which part of the installation did you specifiy that?
[03:04] <Bizzeh> when install asks me how do i want to set up the drive
[03:05] <Bizzeh> i say "use partition x only"
[03:05] <Jowi> ZigZag: Does it work in any other OS?
[03:05] <poningru> Bizzeh: thats not what that means
[03:05] <Bizzeh> "where do you want to install the boot loader to" "partition x, NOT mbr"
[03:05] <Tenoch> I have a question about the live CD : does it mount the hard drive at all ?
[03:05] <ZigZag> Jowi: we have windows. didn't seem too... but then windows desn't have the installed drivers that linux has
[03:05] <Tenoch> I need to use it on a computer that's not mine
[03:05] <keizers> when i want to print a photo at 4x6 the photo only comes on the and of the page, about 2 cm, what to do :S
[03:05] <Tenoch> and without leaving marks of it...
[03:06] <poningru> Bizzeh: if my memory serves me correctly it doesnt have that option, dont remember though
[03:06] <ZigZag> Tenoch: you should be fine. I'm doing it now...
[03:06] <Kimppa> Hmm... I guess I'll have to do the same thing as in Windows - reboot to get something to work :/
[03:06] <Bizzeh> ok, ubuntu gets thrown then
[03:06] <Bizzeh> ill move back to getnoo
[03:06] <Tenoch> ZigZag: cool :)
[03:06] <Bizzeh> gentoo even
[03:06] <poningru> Bizzeh: go for it
[03:06] <Jowi> ZigZag: so the adapter may be broken then. according to the page for the other usb/Ps2 converter, no driver should be needed in either win or linux.
[03:07] <poningru> Jowi: going from usb->ps2 is different
[03:07] <poningru> going from ps2->usb would need drivers
[03:07] <ZigZag> poningru: but that one looks like a PS2->USB. look at the picture
[03:07] <poningru> especially if its for keyboard+mouse
[03:07] <poningru> oh where?
[03:07] <keizers> when i want to print a photo at 4x6 the photo only comes on the and of the page, about 2 cm, what to do :S
[03:07] <poningru> link?
[03:07] <ZigZag> on the link
[03:07] <ZigZag> http://www.usbgear.com/USB_TO_PS2_CONVERTER/
[03:07] <Jowi> poningru: yeah, but it is a usb -> ps/2
[03:08] <poningru> oh hmm
[03:08] <ZigZag> depends on which way you look at it from
[03:08] <cricek> Hmm w32codecs on amd64 ?
[03:08] <keizers> when i want to print a photo at 4x6 the photo only comes on the end of the page, about 2 cm, what to do :S
[03:08] <valdyn> cricek: dont work
[03:08] <cricek> anyone ?
[03:08] <poningru> hmm you are right
[03:08] <poningru> cricek: no
[03:08] <cricek> at all ?
[03:08] <poningru> none
[03:08] <valdyn> cricek: at all
[03:08] <cricek> damn
[03:09] <poningru> ZigZag: yeah dude then it must be the adapter
[03:09] <cricek> how come my suse 9.3 played evrything ?
[03:09] <poningru> cricek: what format?
[03:09] <poningru> cricek: err what codec?
[03:09] <cricek> xvid...nso
[03:09] <valdyn> cricek: its video player can be 32bit even if the 'system' is 64bit
[03:09] <deltron_> videolan client :D
[03:10] <ZigZag> but how can the adaptor know what kind of stuff is plugged into it? It should need some configuring or drivers or something it seems...
[03:10] <poningru> xvid is the free implementation of divx and can be played in vlc
[03:10] <netdur> which debian respo (stable or unstable) should I use with breezy?
[03:10] <poningru> ZigZag: apperantly not
[03:10] <poningru> netdur: neither
[03:10] <Jowi> ZigZag: probably a chip in between the usb and ps/2 connector that does all the translation.
[03:10] <cricek> Uff ok
[03:10] <ZigZag> poningru: 2 minutes ago someone said it didn't work at all...
[03:10] <netdur> poningru, so what to do with missing packages?
[03:10] <Ng> ZigZag: if it's just a tiny little adapter that came with a mouse, it won't be doing anythig, the mouse will need to translate ps2/usb
[03:10] <ishit> how do i kill a program in ubuntu
[03:10] <poningru> netdur: what are you looking for?
[03:11] <poningru> ishit: go into system monitor and end process
[03:11] <Ng> ZigZag: if it's a separate product for connecting ps2/usb mice then you can ignore what I said, but if it came with a specific mouse and you're using it with another, my money says it won't work
[03:11] <netdur> avidemux
[03:11] <Flessan> how does one tell at what level one is looged in at?
[03:11] <Jowi> ishit: kill or xkill (xkill is point and click to kill a window/program)
[03:11] <ZigZag> Ng: it has ports for both mouse and keyboard. don't know what it came with.
[03:12] <poningru> ishit: yeah right click on an empty portion of a panel
[03:12] <_jason> ishit, you have a couple of options:  you can add the "force quit" applet to your panel (the others were mentioned above)
[03:12] <poningru> and add to panel a force quite
[03:12] <ishit> i tried that but it gives an error
[03:12] <poningru> netdur: if you can just get the .deb then it should be fine
[03:12] <ishit> $ kill esd
[03:13] <ishit> bash: kill: esd: arguments must be process or job IDs
[03:13] <ishit> this is wat i get
[03:13] <Jowi> ishit: "killall esd"
[03:13] <netdur> deb has it dependens!!! on site they I should use this "deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main"
[03:13] <ishit> kk
[03:14] <Jowi> ishit: "ps -A | grep esd" will give you a job ID. then use "kill idnumber" to kill it. or use "killall esd".
[03:14] <netdur> sorry for typos
[03:14] <poningru> netdur: if the package is not in ubuntu you probably are fine using the repositories
[03:14] <ishit> thnx it worked
[03:14] <poningru> but the problem is if in future its added to ubuntu it will conflict and mess it up
[03:15] <keizers> isn't there anybody who can help me with my problem
[03:15] <Ng> adding the marillat repositories is generally not a good idea
[03:15] <Ng> they are for debian
[03:15] <poningru> keizers: whats the problem?
[03:15] <Jowi> keizers: ask and you might be lucky
[03:15] <netdur> poningru, yeah... but they has three repos, stable, unstable and testing... which one is "closed" to ubuntu?
[03:15] <keizers> when i want to print a photo at 4x6 the photo only comes on the end of the page, about 2 cm, what to do :S
[03:16] <Ng> netdur: which packages do you need from that repository?
[03:16] <poningru> closest would be unstable, but I seriously recomend just compiling it yourself
[03:16] <lordlucless> Why is postfix trying to delete /etc/localtime?
[03:16] <netdur> Ng, avidemux
[03:16] <Seveas> netdur, don't use debian/marillat
[03:16] <Seveas> avidemux is in the cipherfunk ubuntu repository
[03:17] <kestas> in a bash script is there any way to set a hook for ctrl-C, so when I press ctrl-C it runs the function before stopping?
[03:17] <netdur> Seveas, url
[03:17] <Seveas> kestas, yes
[03:17] <deltron> cipherfunk repos?
[03:17] <Seveas> trap INT stop_func
[03:17] <deltron> cipherfunk is a wicked name :D
[03:17] <Seveas> function stop_func() { ...}
[03:17] <keizers> mm, then no body know an answer i think :S:S :(:(\
[03:17] <Jowi> keizers: I don't have a printer here. but first, do a "print testpage" and see if that one comes out alright. if it does, check the print properties to see if all the settings are correct.
[03:17] <poningru> !cipherfunk
[03:17] <ubotu> poningru: Not a clue
[03:17] <Seveas> deltron, ftp://ftp.cipherfunk.org
[03:17] <Ng> keizers: trap
[03:17] <deltron> sweet, thanks Seveas
[03:17] <keizers> a normal a4 does print normaly
[03:17] <Ng> keizers: see what Seveas says
[03:17] <keizers> only 4x6 paper doesn;t
[03:18] <Ng> err
[03:18] <Ng> kestas I mean
[03:18] <Ng> sorry
[03:18] <keizers> Ng what did saveas say?
[03:18] <lordlucless> Can anyone tell me why postfix is trying to delete /etc/localtime when I run it?
[03:18] <Jowi> keizers: then i don't know, sorry
[03:18] <kestas> Seveas, Ng thanks
[03:18] <Ng> keizers: sorry, I meant to talk to kestas, please ignore what I said :)
[03:19] <keizers> Ng ok cool
[03:19] <Jowi> keizers: have you checked here?
[03:19] <Seveas> kestas, man trap
[03:19] <Jowi> !printing
[03:19] <ubotu> rumour has it, printing is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[03:19] <Seveas> I had it wrong :)
[03:19] <Seveas> it's trap stop_func INT
[03:19] <Flessan> how does one tell at what level one is looged in at?
[03:19] <kestas> Seveas, its the oth-- ah k
[03:19] <kestas> was about to tell you ;)
[03:19] <netdur> Seveas, can you tell me how do I enable cipherfunk respo?
[03:19] <Seveas> or even SIGINT
[03:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> Flessan: hm.? whoami?
[03:19] <Seveas> !tell netdur about easysource
[03:19] <frogz> Flessan: runlevel - usually 2
[03:19] <Jowi> Flessan: "runlevel"
[03:20] <Flessan> I am very new to all this
[03:21] <keizers> does anyone know cedega in here?
[03:21] <ishit> anybody some help on jack
[03:21] <frogz> Flessan: everyone starts somewhere
[03:21] <Jowi> Flessan: "most" linux distros uses other numbers I've seen, but ubuntu uses 2 for normal graphical level.
[03:21] <Flessan> true
[03:21] <whyameye> Breezy crashes ocassionally on my Dell D600 laptop. How might I troubleshoot this?
[03:21] <ishit> i try to start it but it says cannot load alsa module
[03:21] <Jowi> graphical and multiuser that is
[03:22] <Jowi> whyameye: is it an app that hangs or is it the whole system?
[03:22] <jeremywhiting> whyameye, when you say crashes, what do you mean?
[03:22] <frogz> whyameye: 1st - check /var/log/messages for errors
[03:22] <whyameye> Jowi, jeremywhiting: if I leave it on the screensaver, it will eventually hang. Doesn't matter which screensaver.
[03:23] <frogz> !tell ishit about sound
[03:23] <Jowi> whyameye: sounds like acpi/apm and the hybernation thing that causes it. but i have no laptop here
[03:24] <whyameye> Jowi, after much fiddling, acpi works. I disabled all power management in the screen saver, but that doesn't help.
[03:24] <frogz> whyameye: what is your gfx card?
[03:24] <whyameye> frogz: ATI Mobility 9000. I am using the ATI drivers that came with the Breezy installation.
[03:24] <Jowi> !laptop
[03:24] <ubotu> methinks laptop is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops or http://www.linux-laptop.net/ or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[03:25] <Jowi> look at those links whyameye, they might give you a hint
[03:25] <frogz> whyameye: suggest you install the fglrx drivers
[03:25] <whyameye> ubotu: I checked those already. They say the D600 works.
[03:25] <ubotu> whyameye: Are you on ritalin?
[03:25] <Jowi> whyameye: ubotu is a bot
[03:25] <whyameye> frogz: the fglrx drivers are known not to work with hibernation and/or standby according to many sites.
[03:25] <frogz> whyameye: ubotu is a bot, btw
[03:26] <ZigZag> gotta go now. thanks for all your help guys!
[03:26] <jeremywhiting> whyameye: have you tried disabling the screensaver altogether?
[03:26] <Jowi> ZigZag: good luck to you
[03:26] <ZigZag> you rock and rule like a rock and a ruler
[03:26] <ZigZag> thx
[03:26] <frogz> whyameye: but dont't give me trouble with my screensaver :)
[03:26] <whyameye> jeremywhiting: I suppose that's a good idea. Then leave it and see if it hangs, huh?
[03:26] <jeremywhiting> yeah
[03:26] <jeremywhiting> that might be one workaround at least
[03:26] <tristan> whyameye : what's your screen resolution?
[03:26] <whyameye> frogz, if I don't have hibernation or standby, basically I'm goin back to WinXP. Hate to say it. I'm travelling with my laptop all the time.
[03:27] <whyameye> tristan, 1400x1050
[03:27] <jeremywhiting> my ati desktop machine would hang on certain opengl screensavers for some reason
[03:27] <jeremywhiting> so I just set mine to blank screen only and it works fine
[03:27] <whyameye> jeremywhiting: yes this is definitely a possibility. I noticed that it is crashing with OpenGL screensavers....
[03:27] <tristan> whyameye : so it is a wide screen. My screen resol is 1280 x 800. My xorg.conf works fine. Want me to copy/paste the part for the screen in a chat with you?
[03:27] <jeremywhiting> some day I'll go through and disable the ones that hang so I can enjoy all the others
[03:28] <whyameye> tristan: are you suggesting I run at a lower resolution?
[03:28] <Hellfried> I just upgraded from hoary to breezy and have this problem that my computer hangs, and I haven't any clue about what it is. It's not about starting a special application or anything, it just hangs every now and then.  And I've found nothing in syslog or kernellog
[03:28] <frogz> tristan: yes please - I'd like a look 2
[03:28] <jeremywhiting> Hellfried: mine did too, then I realized it was a motherboard problem
[03:29] <whyameye> tell me about this ubotu bot. I had no idea. Is it just reading the posts and using some sort of pattern rec to "offer" something?
[03:29] <jeremywhiting> cause windows would do the same thing
[03:29] <Jowi> whyameye: nah, you have to ask/tell it what you want
[03:29] <frogz> Hellfried: your psu up to the task?
[03:29] <deltron> whyameye: ubotu is an infobot hybrid
[03:29] <Hellfried> jeremywhiting: it never hung with hoary, you're suggesting that it's got broken just now?
[03:29] <frogz> !tell whyameye about ubuto
[03:29] <Hellfried> frogz: psu?
[03:29] <jeremywhiting> Hellfried: I'm just telling you what happened to me
[03:30] <frogz> !tell whyameye about ubotu
[03:30] <jeremywhiting> breaking at the same time you upgraded can happen, stranger things have, that's for sure
[03:30] <matthew_w> What's a program similar to "fruityloops" or "cakewalk" for Ubuntu?
[03:30] <Hellfried> agreed
[03:30] <whyameye> matthew_w: try rosegarden
[03:31] <crankshaft> how does one install thesaurus for openoffice.org2 -- i'm using synaptec and can't find the package ( i found it for version openoffice.org 1 however selecting it uninstalls openoffice.org v.2)
[03:31] <tristan> whyameye : cannot use chat. I have to register. Any idea where I can paste it?
[03:31] <matthew_w> Rosegarden, gotcha, thanks!
[03:31] <frogz> !pastebin
[03:31] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[03:32] <whyameye> tristan, is the pastebin going to work?
[03:32] <rednaxel> !ubotu
[03:32] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[03:32] <Hellfried> frogz: psu?
[03:32] <frogz> psu = power supply unit
[03:33] <Hellfried> ah
[03:33] <Hellfried> i guess so
[03:33] <zAo^> what MP3 player are you using??
[03:33] <tristan> whyameye : done on .com
[03:33] <Hellfried> anyone have an idea about where to look for messages that may give me a hint?
[03:34] <frogz> Hellfried: grep -i error /var/log/messages
[03:34] <Jowi> zAo^: software: rhythmbox, hardware: Samsung yp6z
[03:34] <jeremywhiting> Hellfried: install sensord and see if any voltage alarms go off in your logs
[03:34] <zAo^> Jowi, thnx, but rhythmbox just crashes here now and then
[03:35] <whyameye> tristan: got it. What are suggesting is the problem or rather how is this conf going to help me?
[03:35] <tristan> whyameye : my ati drivers are the new one from the ATI website
[03:35] <frogz>  Hellfried another possibility is install smartmontools & run a disk check
[03:35] <Jowi> Hellfried: I would use a livecd to see if i would get the same prob. but that's just me. maybe your pc manufacturer also have a hardware diagnostic tool that you can run on the computer.
[03:35] <jeremywhiting> I did that and got ton's of em, then once I rebooted the motherboard only recognized one processor socket on my dual processor motherboard and all was fine afterward
[03:35] <whyameye> tristan: so you are suggestiong the fgrlx (or something like that) drivers?
[03:35] <zAo^> Hellfried, tried to boot single-user?
[03:35] <whyameye> tristan: do you use hibernate or suspend?
[03:36] <tristan> whyame : no the ATI drivers on ATI website
[03:36] <tristan> I don't know what my screensaver do after sometime
[03:36] <tristan> It just goes black screen
[03:36] <Jowi> zAo^: there is also xmms, beep media player etc
[03:36] <whyameye> tristan: okay so do I have to install the drivers from the ATI website first?
[03:37] <tristan> whyame  : yes
[03:37] <zAo^> Jowi, tried both, now on Banshee. I use xfce and wanted intergration like Rhythmbox
[03:37] <whyameye> tristan: cool. Will do.
[03:38] <Jowi> zAo^: Rhythmbox is stable for me. I disabled ESD completely and only use ALSA. Works fine for me.
[03:39] <zAo^> Jowi, how can I disable ESD? Urls?
[03:39] <ishit> wen i try to start jack i get this error    $ jackd -R -p 512  -d alsa
[03:39] <ishit> jackd 0.99.0
[03:39] <ishit> Copyright 2001-2003 Paul Davis and others.
[03:39] <ishit> jackd comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
[03:39] <ishit> This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
[03:39] <ishit> under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details
[03:39] <ishit> loading driver ..
[03:40] <ishit> creating alsa driver ... hw:0|hw:0|1024|2|48000|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit
[03:40] <ishit> control device hw:0
[03:40] <ishit> configuring for 48000Hz, period = 1024 frames, buffer = 2 periods
[03:40] <ishit> Couldn't open hw:0 for 32bit samples trying 24bit instead
[03:40] <ishit> Couldn't open hw:0 for 24bit samples trying 16bit instead
[03:40] <Jowi> zAo^: "killall esd" in a terminal. System->prefs->sound: disable sound server at startup. System-> prefs-> multimedia something: default output sink: alsa
[03:40] <ishit> jack_create_thread: error -1 switching current thread to rt for inheritance: Unknown error 4294967295
[03:40] <Shadowline> wf
[03:40] <ishit> cannot start watchdog thread
[03:40] <ishit> cannot load driver module alsa
[03:40] <zAo^> Jowi, did that before, no sound anymore :) thanks anyway :)
[03:40] <Lord_Epsylon> nas
[03:40] <Jowi> zAo^: ah :-)
[03:41] <ishit> wat should i do wen it says cannot load watchdog thread and cannot load alsa module driver
[03:42] <sexcopter8000m> are there command(s) to try to free up swap and ram?
[03:43] <whyameye> ishit: esd is not running? No other app is using ALSA?
[03:44] <Overdrive_X> Anybody have the link on how to install vmware on ubuntu, i found it yesterday but i cant find it again
[03:44] <whyameye> ishit: -R is realtime. Will work only with kernel patch or when running as root. Did you already know this?
[03:44] <Jowi> sexcopter8000m: best way is to limit number of daemons loaded at startup that you dont need. switch to a lighter desktop works as well. Gnome is pretty hungry.
[03:44] <Jowi> !tell Overdrive_X about vmware
[03:45] <UbuntuRob> Does anyone in here have a job/career in Linux????
[03:45] <sexcopter8000m> Jowi, i don't need to compeltely revamp my installation... just one application is whoring resources
[03:45] <Hellfried> thanks for al lyour suggestions, much appreciated!
[03:45] <ishit> no i hav killed esd dunno wat other ones r running. how do i find out
[03:45] <Jowi> sexcopter8000m: which one?
[03:45] <barton_> people, how can I work with Windows FTP resources in my LAN with Ubuntu?
[03:45] <sexcopter8000m> maple. it's a piece of maths software
[03:46] <whyameye> ishit: just try the same command as root and/or try without the -R parameter first. This will help us troubleshoot...
[03:46] <chris_hh> hi
[03:46] <Jowi> sexcopter8000m: haven't heard of that one. maybe you can find an alternative?
[03:46] <sexcopter8000m> Jowi, if i close it and reopen it it still seems to gobble up stuff, not sure why
[03:46] <sexcopter8000m> Jowi, no, i don't think so :p
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> barton_,  you mean 'what ftp client are there for ubuntu' ?
[03:47] <sexcopter8000m> Jowi, but when it's running it runs a process just called "java" which is the one which is hogging resources
[03:47] <chris_hh> Hi, can me help somebody ? --- terminal server problem Ive got
[03:47] <barton_> yes
[03:47] <barton_> I mean ftp client
[03:47] <frogz> chris_hh: just state your problem
[03:48] <whyameye> I want to send audio from one machine to another. Just a one-to-one audio stream deal so something like Shoutcast isn't appropriate. Running ubuntu on both. Any suggestions for software?
[03:48] <Jowi> sexcopter8000m: "killall java" maybe. you can also run "pstree" to see what it is connected to and try to kill the main process maybe.
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> barton_,  theres literally DOZENS of ftp clients out. :P even the gnome file manager can doit. Depends on what features ya want in one. I recall a 'ftp file system' thing somewhere the could even mount them. (never used that however)
[03:48] <chris_hh> i want to set up ltspcfg but it tells that XDMCP is not installed but i am usig gdm, how that?
[03:48] <whyameye> barton_: gFTP is you are running Gnome is V.G.
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> barton_,  fire up synaptic and search for 'ftp' and see wht look good.
[03:49] <kestas> Seveas, on a similar note as last time, if I have a bash function which I've forked, is there any way to send a signal to that forked function (sigint would be good) from the parent script?
[03:49] <Seveas> yes
[03:49] <Hellfried> frogz: loads of erros, but seem unrelated, i.e. they don't occur on hangups
[03:49] <kestas> Seveas, like a way of killing all child processes
[03:49] <Jowi> chris_hh: gdmsetup and tick the XDMCP box, that should prompt you with an installation box if i remember it correctly...
[03:49] <kestas> Seveas, how? :p
[03:49] <kestas> :o even
[03:49] <Seveas> save the result of fork (it's the pid)
[03:50] <kestas> ahhh :)
[03:50] <kestas> thanks
[03:50] <Seveas> and use kill -WHATEVERSIGNALYOUWANT $pid
[03:50] <ishit> hey thnx a million it worked!!!!
[03:50] <chris_hh> I have the gdmsetup box activated
[03:51] <Jowi> chris_hh: and can you use the XDMCP option in gdm when you log in?
[03:51] <whyameye> ishit: is this to me? What worked? If running as root worked, then you have to run all audio apps as root, which isn't good. If leaving off -R worked, then you won't get good latency. If either of these worked, you need realtime-lsm. I can email a link for directions....
[03:51] <chris_hh> how do I use the option Jowi?
[03:51] <frogz> chris_hh: libxdmcp6 is installed by default - think you just need to do some reading
[03:52] <chris_hh> its installed
[03:52] <Seveas> kestas, you're looking for $!
[03:52] <Jowi> chris_hh: Should be in the options menu when you log in. if that works, xdmcp is not your problem.
[03:52] <kestas> Seveas, lmao
[03:52] <kestas> how did you know?
[03:52] <Seveas> :))
[03:52] <whyameye> ishit: you are probably going to need to install realtime-lsm to get what you want. Instructions here: http://fort.xdas.com/~kor/oss2jack/install.html
[03:52] <Seveas> command &
[03:52] <twitch101> can anybody give me a link to an already compile unrar or somthing that i can use to unrar a file
[03:53] <Seveas> kill -HUP $!
[03:53] <chris_hh> i run gdm, isnt it automatically activated?
[03:53] <frogz> !winrar
[03:53] <ubotu> frogz: Bugger all, i dunno
[03:53] <deltron> twitch101: unrar?
[03:53] <frogz> !rar
[03:53] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression#head-32ba956d13d49934f65bf67dd40646653a7a6140
[03:53] <lordlucless> Whats the "xpm" in regards to the gd2 lib? Is it some graphics file format?
[03:53] <frogz> yep
[03:53] <Jowi> chris_hh: i think it activates when you try to use it.
[03:53] <deltron> unrar-free is the package
[03:54] <twitch101> but im using a live cd so i cant use the synaptice package getter
[03:54] <chris_hh> ok Ill try
[03:54] <twitch101> i have to have all the files idownload on an external HD
[03:54] <whyameye> twitch101: the Archive Manager should already be on the live CD....
[03:54] <chris_hh> I relogg
[03:55] <twitch101> on hoary hedgehog 5.04 it is unsupported
[03:55] <twitch101> or they took it out before release or somthing...
[03:55] <twitch101> i already tried the archive manager and said that it couldnt
[03:56] <lordlucless> Hmm, my php config file is in /etc/php4/apache2/, even though Im running apache 1.3. That normal?
[03:56] <saintiss> hi
[03:56] <saintiss> are there people who succeeded getting eclipse running on ppc?
[03:56] <whyameye> twitch101: sorry, then. Don't know...
[03:57] <twitch101> i have to install the unrar-free or unrar-nonfree from the multiverse can i do that without syaptic
[03:57] <chris_hh> relogged- have only options gnome and terminal
[03:57] <twitch101> *snynaptix
[03:57] <learnfromscratch> i erased a rw cd... with blank=fast.. now when i mount it it says wrong fs type!!!
[03:57] <Jowi> chris_hh: brb, will check
[03:58] <ikor> twitch101: sudo apt-get install unrar-free
[03:58] <twitch101> alright
[03:58] <whyameye> ikor: is apt-get going to work when running from a live CD?
[03:59] <twitch101> it did earlier but it got started and said E: somthing
[03:59] <tristan> whyameye : did it work?
[04:00] <twitch101> im waitin for it to start
[04:00] <twitch101> the terminal
[04:00] <deltron> twitch101: edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file and remove the cdrom and if you didn't yet, add in the universe
[04:00] <ikor> whyameye: hmm, i never tried. but may be it will work
[04:01] <Jowi> in gdmsetup: Security -> Enable XDMCP. In gdm login screen: Actions -> XDMCP Chooser. worked for me
[04:01] <whyameye> tristan: I haven't tried yet. :-) I'm using the Dell which is the problem right now. I gotta go anyway. If you hang out in the channel a lot, I can let you know in a day or two. Sound good?
[04:01] <twitch101> is there a command to clear my cache? my comp is runnin kinda slow right now
[04:01] <whyameye> twitch101: if you run from the LiveCD it's going to be slow...
[04:01] <twitch101> i know but when i clear my cache it runs faster a lil bit
[04:01] <twitch101> is there one?
[04:02] <Jowi> you can also tick in gdmsetup Security -> Show Actions Menu -> Allow running XDMCP
[04:03] <twitch101> ok here is what i got when i id the  "sudo apt-get install unrar-free"
[04:04] <twitch101> Reading package lists... Done
[04:04] <twitch101> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:04] <twitch101> E: Couldn't find package unrar-free
[04:04] <chris_hh> brb
[04:04] <kevor> what windows program can be used to tunnel programs via ssh?
[04:04] <chris_hh> Jowi?
[04:04] <Jowi> chris_hh: in gdmsetup: Security -> Enable XDMCP. In gdm login screen: Actions -> XDMCP Chooser. worked for me
[04:04] <Jowi> chris_hh: you can also tick in gdmsetup Security -> Show Actions Menu -> Allow running XDMCP
[04:04] <lordlucless> kevor: putty
[04:04] <kevor> tunnel programs via ssh
[04:04] <kevor> not just get on my box with ssh
[04:05] <whyameye> kevor: I use ssh in cygwin on my windows box for stuff like tunnelling...
[04:05] <lordlucless> twitch101, : unrar-free is in the universe repository
[04:06] <ikor> twitch101: add this line " http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages" to /etc/apt/sources.list and do apt-get update
[04:06] <ikor> twitch101: then try again
[04:06] <twitch101> is that on my disk already?
[04:06] <chris_hh> Jowi_: i have allowed running, but i dont have the option actions->XDMCP Chooser
[04:06] <lordlucless_> Gee, that gets old fast
[04:06] <lordlucless_> putty can tunnel ssh too, kev
[04:06] <kevor> whyameye: how can i install ssh in cygwin?
[04:07] <deltron> install it with setup
[04:07] <lordlucless_> twitch: You need to give ubuntu the reference to the universe repository
[04:07] <Jowi> chris_hh: i answered that questions already. in gdmsetup : Security -> Show Actions menu -> Allow runnign XDMCP
[04:07] <lordlucless_> Someone else here is probly better to explain it than I am - I only installed ubuntu a few hours back
[04:07] <chris_hh> Jowi: I have activated running XDMCP
[04:08] <whyameye> kevor: on your windows box, go to http://www.cygwin.com/. Run the "Install or update now!" thing. Choose a mirror. When you get the list of packages, let it install what it wants, and also choose openssl or openssh or some name like that. You'll love cygwin if you like Linux and you use Windows.
[04:08] <Jowi> chris_hh: so in Security, you have activated "Enable XDMCP" and "Allow running XDMCP chooser from the login screen"?
[04:09] <tristan> yeah. Cygwin was my first try for Unix/Linux environment because it could un xmgrace. Now, I am mainly using Ubuntu and sometime Windows
[04:09] <stardust> what is a foo?
[04:09] <chris_hh> Jowi: yes it is so
[04:10] <chris_hh> do i have to activate the ticker above?
[04:10] <Jowi> chris_hh: then I have no idea since it work fine for me with that setup.
[04:10] <Jowi> chris_hh: which ticker?
[04:10] <chris_hh> allow configuration from login
[04:11] <Jowi> chris_hh: don't know. it is activated for me.
[04:11] <twitch101> ikor: is that in filesystem/bin somewere?
[04:11] <chris_hh> theres the submenu X-Server
[04:11] <Jowi> chris_hh: i think that is only for configuring gdm from the login screen...
[04:11] <Jowi> chris_hh: i haven't touch the xserver tab
[04:11] <lordlucless_> Night all
[04:11] <Jowi> s/touch/touched
[04:12] <chris_hh> do i have to choose server-def: cooser?
[04:12] <Jowi> don't know
[04:12] <chris_hh> i try it, wait a min
[04:13] <meepy> Hey, what's up?
[04:14] <Jowi> meepy: not too much. coffee in a minute or two
[04:15] <randabis> gah automatix needs a page i can't find the link in the thread
[04:15] <meepy> Oh I see. Is there anyone here using the last Clearlooks 0.6.2 (I think)?
[04:16] <meepy> Because I got a few problems with it, I like to have sortet
[04:16] <meepy> d*
[04:17] <Jowi> meepy: well, if you need help it will give you more responce by asking a direct questions. with a bit of luck there may be someone who can answer it
[04:19] <randabis> grr where
[04:20] <randabis> man...
[04:20] <eth42> How can I set the locale so that I basically have the German settings but with language set to English?
[04:20] <eth42> (I hope that doesn't sound ridiculous. I just want to have centimeters instead of inches, a proper date format, etc. But still I want the programs in English.)
[04:20] <chris_hh> re
[04:20] <chris_hh> it did not work
[04:20] <meepy> Wait a moment. I don't think I got a "problem" with the new Clearlooks anyway
[04:20] <meepy> It should look like that? :|
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> meepy,  look like what? :P
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> does it look 'clear' ?
[04:23] <meepy> I want my display to be like those on theese screenshots: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=26757
[04:23] <ufk> hiya
[04:23] <chris_hh> re
[04:23] <milestone> hi all
[04:23] <chris_hh> did not work
[04:23] <meepy> As far as I can read it needs Clearlooks theme. The newest. I found the *.deb package on Ubuntu forums I installed. But after I install the Graphite theme, only the colors change on the clearlooks theme?
[04:24] <milestone>  i have customized the ubuntu installer to use my custom kernel, because i have a RAID Controller inside my machine that is not supported by default.
[04:25] <twitch101> before i leave ill make one suggestion for the development team of ubuntu.   the team should try to port a small version to be ablt to use on the xbox kernel
[04:25] <twitch101> alright well thanks for the help ikop
[04:25] <milestone> now when i boot the installer the last i see is... RAMDISK: Compressed image found ... VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) ... VFS: Cannot open root device "rd/0" what am i missing in my kernel?
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> thats a lot of little downloads for a 'theme' :P lol
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> welli guess i dont need the firefox and other bits.
[04:26] <ufk>  i can't use any of the admin tools on gnome-panel, it asks for the root password and doesn't go from there or even say that i wrote a bad password, any ideas?
[04:27] <Kyral> ubotu tell ufk about RootSudo
[04:27] <robotgeek> ufk: you havent enabled root, right?
[04:27] <meepy> Hmm
[04:27] <ufk> ahhmmm
[04:27] <ufk> enabled root in what?
[04:27] <milestone> anyone else customized the installer disk before?
[04:27] <Kyral> I love ubotu :D
[04:27] <Kyral> Makes this easy
[04:27] <meepy> I only want the window border to look like that
[04:27] <Kyral> ufk: read what Ubotu sent you
[04:28] <robotgeek> ufk: if you don't know what i am talking about, you probably havent enabled it :)
[04:28] <ufk> cool :)
[04:28] <ufk> reading thanks
[04:28] <sley> ubotu tell sley about RootSudo
[04:29] <randabis> hi
[04:29] <Royce> When I try to play internet radio streams, the program (xmms & others) continually buffers, complete s then rebuffers, any ideas?
[04:29] <Royce> this is a pretty fresh install of ubuntu
[04:29] <Jowi> milestone: Device Drivers->Multi-device support+RAID support (and select which raid)?
[04:29] <Kyral> Royce: Streamtuner?
[04:30] <robotgeek> Royce: do you have all the codecs and stuff? (tho, xmms should not need one)
[04:30] <Royce> Kyral: streamtuer is a program, or an engine?
[04:30] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell Royce about mp3
[04:30] <adrian__> are there any local update sites (instead of update.ubuntu.com, update.ubuntu.ro, .de, .uk etc)
[04:30] <milestone> Jowi I amtrying to run my customized installer. It loads my kernel, and cannot mount the CD afterwards
[04:30] <Kyral> !find streamtuner
[04:30] <ubotu> streamtuner: (A GUI audio stream directory browser), section universe/net, is extra. Version: 0.99.99-5ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 581 kB, Installed size: 2064 kB
[04:31] <milestone> cramfs is inside the kernel
[04:31] <Kyral> Royce: its a program
[04:31] <milestone> initial ramdisk is inside the kernel
[04:31] <Royce> ive tried ogg and mp3 streams
[04:31] <Kyral> Doesn't Initrd depend on cramfs?
[04:32] <robotgeek> Royce: if ogg doesn't play, it definetly is not a codecs issue.
[04:32] <Seveas> milestone, no, it's in the initrd aka Initial RamDisk
[04:32] <Seveas> not in the kernel
[04:32] <adrian__> are there any local update sites (instead of update.ubuntu.com, update.ubuntu.ro, .de, .uk etc)???
[04:32] <Kyral> like mirros?
[04:33] <Seveas> adrian__, {ro,de,uk,....}.archive.ubuntu.com
[04:33] <Royce> yeah, it connects and buffers perpetually
[04:33] <Kyral> Royce: then I don't know...sory
[04:33] <Royce> sound werks for ubuntu, i have all the pretty boot stuff
[04:33] <Kyral> I don't listen to internet streams
[04:33] <robotgeek> Royce: just playing an mp3/ogg works?
[04:34] <Jowi> milestone: Device Drivers -> ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support -> ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support IDE -> Enhanced IDE/MFM/RLL -> Include IDE/ATAPI CDROM support
[04:34] <Royce> robot, good question, i need samba to connect to windoze networks right?
[04:34] <Jowi> milestone: either compile it into the kernel or load as a module. personally i have it in the kernel itself
[04:34] <eth42> How can I set the locale so that I basically have the German settings but with the actual language set to English?
[04:34] <robotgeek> Royce: most probably, unless you have an ftp/http server running there
[04:35] <Royce> robotgeek: excellent call, brb with that info
[04:35] <milestone> Jowi That is in there too
[04:35] <milestone> could it be that the ubuntu installer uses the /dev filesystem
[04:35] <milestone> and this is no longer insde kernel 2.6.14.3
[04:35] <Kyral> maybe
[04:35] <Jowi> milestone: that is wierd. maybe
[04:36] <Kyral> jump to 2.6.15
[04:36] <milestone> Kyral is it in there again?
[04:36] <Kyral> is what in where?
[04:36] <milestone> should be under pdeudo filesystems -> /dev filessystem support, correct?
[04:36] <robotgeek> the ubuntu installer is able to resize ext3 partitions?
[04:36] <milestone> Kyral, the /dev fs support
[04:37] <Kyral> I think so...its been a while since I rolled my own
[04:37] <Kyral> I haven't played with the 2.6.15
[04:37] <Jowi> Wow, I recommend rolling your own kernel. my boot time went from 65 to 38 seconds!
[04:37] <Kyral> I did that
[04:38] <Kyral> but for some reason module loading broke
[04:38] <robotgeek> Jowi: that only matters if you restart your box, heh
[04:38] <Kyral> and I had to redo the Nvidia module everytime
[04:38] <Jowi> robotgeek: i do it frequently, well, once per day maybe :-)
[04:39] <|iDo|> Hi :)
[04:39] <Kyral> robotgeek: on a laptop boottime is important :D
[04:39] <rohan> hi all
[04:39] <rohan> is ubuntu recomended for a Piii 550mhz 256mb ram ?
[04:39] <Kyral> rohan: yes
[04:39] <robotgeek> Kyral: i don't ever shut my 2 laptops down. sleep -> resume!
[04:39] <Kyral> You may have to run minimal
[04:39] <Jowi> but that was only a nice side-effect for me. needed custom kernel and patch for via epia dri support
[04:40] <Kyral> robotgeek: I don't trust those :P
[04:40] <Glossary> Hey guys :) does anybody know a bit about mySQL and apache??
[04:40] <rohan> Kyral: but it is the fastest one for the given computer ? or there are alternatives ?
[04:40] <mahangu> Glossary, #mysql
[04:40] <Kyral> rohan: Linux is Linux
[04:40] <rohan> Kyral: really ? then why is gentoo much faster than most other distros ?
[04:40] <Kyral> I was about to say that the Distros have a different way of doing things
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> rohan,  PROVE its 'much faster'
[04:41] <Kyral> Gentoo compiles everything from scratch
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> since the stats ive seen dont show that.
[04:41] <rohan> Dr_Willis: i cant.
[04:41] <robotgeek> Glossary: my knowledge is limited to installation
[04:41] <Kyral> so to a point it will be faster
[04:41] <mahangu> rohan, what kyral was trying to say is that all linuxes have the same base or core
[04:41] <qweo> hi to all
[04:41] <|iDo|> :) i have a "kernel panic" when i try to boot with a new DSDT on my acer laptop, does anyone can help me ?
[04:41] <rohan> Kyral: well.. anyway .. is there any other distro faster than ubuntu or no ?
[04:41] <mahangu> but different distros implement that in different ways
[04:41] <rohan> robotgeek: hi :)
[04:41] <Glossary> robotgeek, well if you have any idea how to make it connect or configure mysql please help
[04:41] <robotgeek> the amount of time you save compiling makes it all up :)
[04:41] <Kyral> rohan: its a matter of opinion and configuration
[04:41] <Kyral> and computer ;P
[04:41] <mahangu> Glossary, you need to get in #mysql
[04:42] <Kyral> I run Ubuntu on both my laptop and desktop
[04:42] <infernall> will firefox 1.5 be out for ubuntu soon?
[04:42] <rohan> Kyral: ah... the typical answers :P
[04:42] <mahangu> infernall, with dapper
[04:42] <infernall> dapper?
[04:42] <Kyral> my laptop feels quicker, but because I have a very minimal install
[04:42] <mahangu> infernall, next version of ubuntu
[04:42] <qweo> can anybody help with Radeon 3D acceleration over R300 driver (in ubuntu)?
[04:42] <Kyral> Its faster than Windows ;P
[04:42] <rohan> lol, Kyral
[04:42] <infernall> mahangu, whats the hold up with breezy and firefox 1.5?
[04:42] <g47o> Hola !
[04:42] <rohan> Kyral: ther "server" install ?
[04:42] <Kyral> yah
[04:42] <cion> hey all Im scared like shit, i installed gftp and all my files hust gone, they disappeared!!!!!
[04:42] <mahangu> infernall, it was not ready for packaging at the time of release
[04:42] <Kyral> I would reccommend Xubuntu(XFCE Default)
[04:42] <robotgeek> Glossary: i've setup using the Mysql documentation
[04:43] <robotgeek> rohan: hi
[04:43] <Glossary> mahangu, im asking there too
[04:43] <Kyral> rohan: do you know how to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[04:43] <infernall> mahangu, so just add the dapper repositories?
[04:43] <ufk> hiya, my user is in the admin group, still when i try to use sudo it gives me "Sorry, try again", and just su with the same password works. any ideas?
[04:43] <rohan> Kyral: yes.
[04:43] <mahangu> infernall, no no! there may be a breezy backport soon though
[04:43] <Kyral> rohan: okay, when you get to the server install
[04:43] <mahangu> for now you'll need to compile yourself
[04:43] <Kyral> add Multiverse and Universe
[04:43] <Kyral> then sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[04:43] <Jowi> cion: gftp is a ftp client (not a server). if they are gone then you deleted them yourself
[04:43] <robotgeek> Glossary: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP?highlight=%28mysql%29
[04:44] <rohan> Kyral: oh, xfce .. eek :P
[04:44] <cion> no Jowi
[04:44] <Kyral> whats wrong with XFCE? ;P
[04:44] <mahangu> rohan, XFCE is quite neat actually
[04:44] <mahangu> i like it
[04:44] <cion> i didn't
[04:44] <Kyral> I liked it
[04:44] <chris_hh> I have a problem with XDMCP ; i have it activated in the gdm setup; but ltspcfg says XDMCP is not istalled; how thaT?
[04:44] <infernall> mahangu, i hope so.  I really would like to drag and drop tabs...
[04:44] <Kyral> Built in compositing that is more stable than KDE and GNOME's
[04:44] <Kyral> YUM!!
[04:44] <Kyral> but I run Flux on both machines now
[04:44] <mahangu> infernall, get a extension man!
[04:45] <mahangu> ff 1.x has done that for _ages_
[04:45] <mahangu> with the right extension
[04:45] <infernall> bah
[04:45] <Kyral> wait for the Backport
[04:45] <mahangu> infernall, if that is your main reason to upgrade
[04:45] <mahangu> just get the extension
[04:45] <Kyral> Epiphany does it by default :D
[04:45] <g47o> pliss
[04:45] <g47o> the channel
[04:45] <mahangu> Kyral, true that
[04:46] <g47o> speak spanish
[04:46] <triple5> hello all,
[04:46] <_jason> !es
[04:46] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:46] <g47o> a channel !speak spanish
[04:46] <g47o> a channel !speak spanish
[04:46] <chris_hh> I have a problem with XDMCP ; i have it activated in the gdm setup; but ltspcfg says XDMCP is not istalled; how thaT?
[04:46] <raimian> hi, i need some help with drivers
[04:46] <meepy> How do I install fonts?
[04:46] <Kyral> g47o: #ubuntu-es
[04:46] <Kyral> !fonts
[04:46] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[04:46] <meepy> Thanks
[04:47] <g47o> kyral Gracias !
[04:47] <Kyral> !botsnack
[04:47] <ubotu> thanks kyral :)
[04:47] <ufk> sudo gives me password incorrect while su works. any ideas?
[04:47] <Kyral> dangit I forgot how to say Your Welcome in spanish
[04:47] <Kyral> ufk: did you enable the root account
[04:48] <ufk> i can login with root if that's what you're asking
[04:48] <raimian> im in need of drivers for a XG-701A usb wifi dongle, can anyone help???
[04:48] <Kyral> then sudo is dead in the water
[04:48] <eth42> where is the default locale stored in ubuntu?
[04:48] <Kyral> you have to use su ;P
[04:48] <Digimag> Hello!
[04:48] <ufk> ok i'll disable root account
[04:48] <rambo3> realy
[04:48] <Digimag> Can i get help here, please?
[04:49] <Kyral> Digimag: of course, just ask
[04:49] <ufk> ok.. now i have root disabled
[04:49] <rambo3> !trashcan
[04:49] <ubotu> rambo3: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[04:49] <ufk> same problem!
[04:49] <Kyral> sudo pass is your userpass
[04:49] <ufk> great.. now i don't have root... and sudo doesn't work
[04:49] <Kyral> and I have to run to class......I apologize
[04:49] <Digimag> Ubuntu is installed, but Grub install didn't work
[04:49] <raimian> where can i get ubuntu driver files????????
[04:49] <Digimag> I tried to do it manually
[04:50] <Royce> robotgeek: the apt-get plugins from that wiki don't seem to valid anymore, how would i track them down
[04:50] <Jowi> eth42: /etc/environment i think
[04:50] <robotgeek> Royce: do you have universe and multiverse enabled?
[04:50] <Digimag> now I can boot on my partition, but I get always a kernel panic
[04:50] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell Royce about repos
[04:50] <Royce> robotgeek: i dont know sorry
[04:50] <Royce> thanx
[04:50] <eth42> Jowi: yes, exactly. thanks!
[04:50] <rambo3> Digimag , alot can make grub not work .
[04:51] <Digimag> I tipe those commands in grub: root (hd0,4); kernel root=/dev/hda5; boot
[04:51] <Digimag> ubuntu is installed on /dev/hda5
[04:51] <ufk> ok can you please help me  out here? you told me that sudo won't work if i have root enabled ,so  i disabled it. now i have no root and no sudo
[04:51] <raimian> can somebody help me please????
[04:51] <rambo3> like my usual foult , installing linux on partition that cant be accessed buy bios
[04:51] <psi> can i run the dapper kernel on breezy?
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> raimian,  clarify the issue. and be concise. :P
[04:52] <robotgeek> ufk: to disable root, you must have run a sudo command?
[04:52] <raimian> i need drivers for a usb wifi dongle
[04:52] <ufk> yeah.. i ran sudo command while being root with su!
[04:52] <yatesy> you can't disable root, your system would be useless if you did
[04:52] <everton137> Hi, I want mount device /dev/sda1 for USB to upload photos form my mobile. But this device doesnt exist
[04:52] <Digimag> rambo3: I have  a PC.. What do you mean by  cant be accessed buy bios ?
[04:52] <everton137> does someone know why?
[04:52] <yatesy> everton137: your mobile might not be detected as sda
[04:52] <yatesy> use dmesg and find out what its been assigned
[04:53] <robotgeek> ufk: hmm, i think you need to boot into recovery mode and edit your sudoers file.
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> raimian,  may want to hit the ubuntu forums and wikis, searhing for your specific brand of 'dongle'
[04:53] <raimian> ok
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> dongle... :P what a word..
[04:53] <everton137> yatesy, how should I mount it? it's USB and ubuntu found that its a nokia 6235
[04:53] <ufk> recovery mode will run root even if it's disabled?
[04:53] <rambo3> well , if you have 160 gig HD , and first c: is on first 80 gig, then some bios cant acess /boot/grub/ if its on that last partition . do you get any error code?
[04:53] <everton137> yatesy, let me run it
[04:53] <Digimag> everton137: please past here a part of your dmesg message
[04:54] <yatesy> everton137: do i need to repeat? use dmesg and find out what device its been assigned
[04:54] <yatesy> err no
[04:54] <everton137> yatesy, ok, thank, I havbent red, sorry
[04:54] <everton137> yatesy, I will past on #flood
[04:54] <adrian__> hello, are there any local download sites for updates (Ex:   update.ubuntu.ro)
[04:54] <raimian> i have searched the forums and there is nothing about my wifi dongle on there
[04:55] <Jowi> adrian__: there are, yes. i use the french servers myself
[04:55] <lzap> Hi, I am using this great program and cannot find it in the Ubuntu packages. In the Debian there is 2.0.4. Can somebody explain how Debian packages "migrate" to universe?
[04:55] <everton137> yatesy, done
[04:55] <Digimag> So, for my grub... I can't boot. I have a kernel Panic and I get "device hda5 not found" or someone else
[04:55] <adrian__> Jowi what's the address?
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> Digimag,  has it ever worked?
[04:56] <Digimag> But I have my hda5 partition with ReiserFS...
[04:56] <lzap> Sylpheed --- I am using this great program and cannot find it in the Ubuntu packages. In the Debian there is 2.0.4. Can somebody explain how Debian packages "migrate" to universe? (sorry for the above post)
[04:56] <Jowi> adrian__: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive will list some of them (scroll down)
[04:56] <Digimag> Dr_Willis, i have just installed ubuntu
[04:56] <adrian__> Jowi thank you very much
[04:56] <Digimag> But GRUB installation fails
[04:56] <Digimag> I did it manually
[04:56] <rambo3> sudo grub-install
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> Digimag,  Hmm.,.. reiserfs.... every time i see some onemention reiserfs.. its some problem with it., :(
[04:57] <rambo3> or was it update
[04:57] <lzap> any1 using Sylpheed in Ubuntu here? :-(
[04:57] <Digimag> I try it with a chroot environement
[04:57] <everton137> yatesy, how do I discover the device seeing dmesg output?
[04:57] <yatesy> read what it says?
[04:57] <Digimag> $ dmesg | grep device
[04:58] <Digimag> or $ dmesg | grep -i usb
[05:01] <cion> guys i was installing GFTP but my system crashed, now i can't find all my files in the home directory help!
[05:01] <Digimag> How can I install lilo with ubuntu?
[05:01] <Digimag> apt-get lilo?
[05:01] <dave_> lzap: Make sure to have universe and multiverse repositories enabled and then you can easily use sylpheed with Ubuntu
[05:01] <Jowi> Digimag: yeah "sudo apt-get install lilo"
[05:01] <Digimag> apt-get install lilo
[05:01] <Digimag> yes
[05:01] <Toma-> !lilo
[05:01] <ubotu> Toma-: I don't know, could you explain it?
[05:01] <Digimag> but it demands a CD
[05:02] <Toma-> oh dear
[05:02] <Digimag> it ask for an installation cd
[05:02] <Toma-> Digimag: disable your install cd as a source for apt
[05:02] <Jowi> Digimag: comment out the cd in /etc/apt/sources.list and run "sudo apt-get update"
[05:02] <Digimag> It's not a problem
[05:02] <Digimag> but Grub...
[05:02] <g47o> Ubuntu aja :D
[05:03] <lzap> dave_: the problem is there is only 2.0.0 in these repositories... it seems this grat MUA is not in universe...
[05:03] <lzap> dave_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=543843
[05:03] <Chrizz> hi there, installed and configured psybnc, now when i want to start it, I get "bash: psybnc: command not found
[05:03] <Digimag> How can i install Grub... and configure it
[05:03] <dave_> lzap: apt-cahe show sylpheed = version 2.1.1-1
[05:03] <Royce> is there a keyboard shortcut to kill a window in x?
[05:04] <Jowi> Chrizz: "whereis psybnc" might help you
[05:04] <rambo3> sudo grub-install and then edit menu.lst
[05:04] <lzap> dave_: yes, its the devel version, I do not use devel, I use latest stable, which is 2.0.4
[05:04] <Digimag> Royce: [CTRL] +[ALT] +[Back] 
[05:04] <cion> guys i was installing GFTP but my system crashed, now i can't find all my files in the home directory help!
[05:05] <Chrizz> Jowi: i get "psybnc:" then
[05:05] <rambo3> maby thay are in lost and found
[05:05] <Digimag> Royce: Sorry, it kills your X server
[05:05] <Royce> yup, ill live
[05:05] <Royce> pickin on a newb, or accident?
[05:06] <eth42> is there a CD player in Ubuntu which can read cd-text?
[05:06] <Jowi> Chrizz: maybe the command is different from what you think. Open up synaptic, select the package, click Properties and Installed Files.
[05:06] <chrisx1> is there a way i can transfer A Lot of Files To FTP From Terminatl?
[05:06] <chrisx1> *Terminal
[05:07] <rambo3> man ftp
[05:07] <maledot> hallo! www.maledicta.net avantgarde metal from italy! in the website is possible listen our songs!
[05:08] <shastry> hey anyone giving away laptops for free ?
[05:08] <Chrizz> ah damn its running alrdy, but i got not msg that its running :S
[05:08] <wolfi> hi
[05:08] <tristan> shastry : maybe santa claus
[05:08] <shastry> hehe
[05:08] <shastry> i heard santa is gonna be in #ubuntu :P
[05:08] <cion> guys how can i find my files again?
[05:09] <oskude> chrisx1, i think there was something with "mput" command in "ftp"...
[05:09] <cion> if i pull out hard disk how do I see in it with windows?
[05:09] <Stork> how can i get subtitles working with totem?
[05:09] <chrisx1> yer i saw that oskude
[05:09] <Chrizz> how can i kill a process?
[05:09] <erUSUL> cion, try a livecd like knoppix
[05:10] <erUSUL> Chrizz, kill PID
[05:10] <cion> oh ok ill try that
[05:10] <Chrizz> how i get PID?
[05:10] <cion> is xfce on ubuntu good?
[05:10] <Royce> is there a keyboard shortcut to kill a window in x?
[05:10] <erUSUL> Chrisx_, ps ax | grep name
[05:10] <erUSUL> Royce, try xkill
[05:10] <Stork> how can i get subtitles working with totem?
[05:11] <dave_> cion: I use xfce on Ubuntu and love it
[05:11] <_jason> Chrizz, if you know the name of the process, you can use: killall NAMEOFPROCESS -- or you can run xkill and then just click on the window
[05:11] <erUSUL> Royce, there is apanel applet that comes very handy for the task
[05:11] <Jowi> cion: yep, very. But i don't like the default Rodent icons at all. look like a three year old made them :-) Appart from that....
[05:11] <Royce> erUSUL: is that a program?
[05:11] <cion> dave_: is it ok for newbies?
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> cion,  the xfce-desktop is fairly welldone.
[05:11] <erUSUL> Royce, yes
[05:11] <Stork> how can i get subtitles working with totem? i've got the .srt file
[05:11] <Toma-> Royce: kde has ctl-alt-esc...
[05:11] <Royce> do a packet search for xkill?
[05:11] <dave_> cion: I don't think that XFCE is as easy as gnome, but it won't take long to get use to
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> Xfce tries to be very.. (CDE?)ish?  I think.
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> but ive never used CDE
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> xfce is nice for a vnc session or other light needs..  it also seems to handle the gnome and kde  applications well.
[05:13] <cion> is it graphicly configurable like gnome? meaning gdesklets, apps and all?
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> cion,  not tried the gdesklets. but they should work.
[05:13] <dave_> cion: XFCE is a lot more lightweight than either KDE or GNOME so I think that the "slight" learning curve is well worth it.  The learning curve is indeed small
[05:13] <sephadex> plz i install mplayer but /dev/dsp no such device
[05:13] <rambo3> cion if you want something good and light go for fluxbox
[05:13] <cion> what shoudl be my pilar to learn bout xfce?
[05:14] <_jason> ubotu, tell sephadex about mplayer
[05:14] <cion> whats fluxbox, desktop?
[05:14] <dave_> XFCE, I believe that gdesklets will work.  However, gdesklets are pretty resource intensive so I don't use them much
[05:14] <Storkme> how can i get subtitles working with totem? i've got the .srt file
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> cion,  install the xubuntu-desktop and have at it. :P thats the full 'xfce' desktop enviroment I think.
[05:14] <cion> how? i can't do it during installation
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> cion,  learning the basics of xcfe will take about 15 min tops. :P if you bother to read their docs.
[05:14] <cion> u mean with syn?
[05:15] <dave_> cion: I am still running GNOME desktop environment, but using the xfwm4 (window manager) to replace metacity.  I like this setup
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> metacity - is a bit of a pain in ways. :P
[05:15] <dave_> Dr_Willis: I agree that metacity is a pain
[05:16] <rambo3> explain
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> dave_,  when they did the switch from sawmill to metacity - ages ago.. i gave up on gnome for a LONG time.
[05:16] <cion> but how do i install xubuntu during installation? i need to do it after ubuntu installation right?
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> cion,  yes.. after ya get installed and running, and updates set up..
[05:16] <cion> ok ill try to recover my files now
[05:17] <dave_> Dr_Willis: I have another computer running GNOME Desktop and Sawfish as the window manager.  I like this too
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/10/11/xubuntu-xfce-ubuntu/
[05:17] <cion> after i will see bout xfce
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> dave_,  yea - sawfish is a love it or hate it thing also. :P
[05:18] <Storkme> how can i get subtitles working with totem? i've got the .srt file
[05:18] <Xtreme984> hi people
[05:18] <chakal> hi man
[05:18] <Xtreme984> I was wondering if anyone could help me get my brother's WiFi card to work on Ubuntu
[05:18] <chakal> ow, me too
[05:19] <chrisx1> is there a way i can transfer A Lot of Files To FTP From Terminal?
[05:19] <Xtreme984> it's a RaLink 2500 chipset if I'm correct
[05:19] <chakal> i need help to use my 802.11b/g in de ubuntu
[05:19] <Xtreme984> same
[05:20] <Storkme> how can i get subtitles working with totem? i've got the .srt file
[05:21] <rambo3> deja vue
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> chrisx1, wget is handy for that.
[05:21] <Storkme> how can i get subtitles working with totem? i've got the .srt file
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> chrisx1,  or mc, for a ftp front end.
[05:22] <Dragma> Is my grub config file correct?
[05:22] <Dragma> default 0
[05:22] <Dragma> timeout 5
[05:22] <Dragma> title=Ubuntu
[05:22] <Dragma> root (hd0,4)
[05:22] <Dragma> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-386 root=/dev/hda5
[05:22] <testmach1ne> lookslike good
[05:22] <testmach1ne> moment
[05:23] <Xtreme984> anyone know how to get a wireless card with a RaLink 2500 chipset to work??
[05:23] <testmach1ne> title           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12-9-386 (recovery mode)
[05:23] <testmach1ne> root            (hd0,0)
[05:23] <testmach1ne> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-386 root=/dev/hda1 ro single
[05:23] <testmach1ne> initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.12-9-386
[05:23] <testmach1ne> boot
[05:23] <testmach1ne> Dragma: has to be something like that
[05:23] <testmach1ne> Dragma: 2.6 kernels need initrd
[05:24] <Dragma> ok
[05:24] <Dragma> thank's
[05:25] <nox-Hand> Hey
[05:25] <nox-Hand> Can you set Ubuntu to auto switch off?
[05:25] <Xtreme984> hi
[05:25] <nox-Hand> at a specific time or after x hours?
[05:27] <nox-Hand> Very quiet in here
[05:27] <testmach1ne> Dragma: np
[05:27] <sephadex> mplayer audio dont run
[05:27] <nox-Hand> got codecs?
[05:28] <testmach1ne> nox-Hand: i dong know
[05:28] <Xtreme984> :(
[05:28] <nox-Hand> ah, how did you install Mplayer?
[05:28] <kestas> nox-Hand, sudo sh, then 'hours=5; sleep `expr 60 \* 60 \* $hours`; halt'
[05:28] <kestas> or use cron
[05:28] <Dragma> testmach1ne, I reboot
[05:28] <nox-Hand> cron?
[05:29] <sephadex> with manual in spanisch
[05:29] <chrisx1> Dr_Willis, i thought wget was to download?
[05:29] <nox-Hand> What is Cron?
[05:29] <kestas> nox-Hand, man 5 crontab
[05:29] <Xtreme984> anyone know how to get a WiFi card to work in Ubuntu 5.10??? (it's a RaLink RT2500 chipset)
[05:29] <nox-Hand> will that make it auto shut down after 5 hours?
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> chrisx1,  :P i missread.
[05:30] <nox-Hand> sephadex: I shall just find the code for installing Mplayer codecs
[05:30] <nox-Hand> sephadex: Do you have 32 bit ubuntu?
[05:30] <kestas> basically sudo sh then 'hour=5; minute=20; echo "$minute $hour * * * halt" >> /etc/crontab'
[05:30] <sephadex> no
[05:30] <chrisx1> i tried usin gftp Dr_Willis But It Keeps Stalling
[05:31] <kestas> itll halt every day at $minute in $hour
[05:31] <nox-Hand> sephadex:  64 bit then?
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> chrisx1,  sounds like it maybe a ftp server side issue.  I rarely every use ftp any more.. ssh is the way to go.
[05:31] <nox-Hand> kestas: How do I stop it again then?
[05:31] <chrisx1> how can i use ssh to get files then?
[05:31] <sephadex> i have p3 233
[05:32] <chrisx1> in behind nat
[05:32] <MarcN> kestas: halt?  shutdown is a nicer choice.
[05:32] <kestas> MarcN, they all do the same thing right?
[05:32] <nox-Hand> sephadex: What distro Ubuntu? i386?
[05:32] <Digimag> Sorry
[05:32] <kestas> MarcN, init 0 would be just as good
[05:32] <Digimag> Now, my grub config is finished
[05:32] <Digimag> how can I install it?
[05:33] <MarcN> kestas: halt kills processes hard,  shutdown does it gracefully letting daemons to shut themselves down cleanly.
[05:33] <chrisx1> Dr_Willis, how can i use ssh to get files then?
[05:33] <rambo3> just save the changes
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> chrisx1,  scp - makes it fairly easy to copy files frm one machine to another.
[05:33] <MarcN> chrisx1:     scp user@the.intern.net:/home/some/file.txt .
[05:34] <nox-Hand> MarcN: Shutdown? How do I do that then?
[05:34] <kestas> MarcN, how does it do it more gracefully?
[05:34] <MarcN> nox-Hand:     sudo shutdown -h now
[05:34] <chrisx1> can i use wildcards MarcN , Dr_Willis
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> i just alwas gets the command line backwards the first few times i try scp it seems.
[05:34] <kestas> MarcN, if youre the only user on the sys you dont need a 'shutting down in xx mins' message beforehand
[05:34] <MarcN> chrisx1: sure.
[05:34] <kestas> and apart from that it's the same thing, init 0
[05:34] <MarcN> kestas: that is why I do 'shutdown -h now'
[05:34] <chrisx1> Can U Explain How MarcN
[05:35] <kestas> MarcN, well thats the same thing as 'halt' just longer
[05:35] <julo> hi
[05:35] <nox-Hand> MarcN: Sudo shutdown -5 now   - Will that make my com shut down after 5 hours?
[05:35] <MarcN> kestas: right, because it gives processes a few moments to save themselves.  Not nice when you are running say mysql
[05:36] <MarcN> nox-Hand: no, it shuts it down now.  For 5 hours from now, use      sudo shutdown -h +5h
[05:36] <MarcN> nox-Hand: see the manpage for shutdown
[05:36] <kestas> MarcN, I assume you mean mysqld, but halt sends a TERM signal before KILL, just like shutdown
[05:36] <Xtreme984> mysql is a b*tch when it doesn't have time to shutdown
[05:36] <julo> I have a script that automatically creates users using adduser -p CRYPTED_PASSWORD. On Ubuntu, adduser doesn't seem to accept the -p otion. Is there another way to change a password in a bash script ?
[05:37] <Digimag> How do I setup grub? My cofnig file is /boot/grub/grub.conf... And now? What do I do for boot my Ubuntu?
[05:37] <nox-Hand> MarcN: Manpage?
[05:37] <kestas> nox-Hand, man shutdown
[05:37] <Digimag> I don't have man
[05:37] <Digimag> on my Ubuntu
[05:37] <MarcN> kestas: hmm, man page for halt says it just does a shutdown.  So should be the same amount of time.  previously halt was very unnice.
[05:38] <bshumate> julo: useradd(8) accepts -p
[05:38] <MarcN> nox-Hand: the manual page.  Open a terminal window and type       man shutdown
[05:38] <nox-Hand> MarcN: Ah, cheers
[05:38] <nox-Hand> Thanks a lot ;)
[05:38] <nox-Hand> Downloading SuSE. Just wanna check it out. No need to let the com be on all night. So autoshutdown would be good
[05:39] <kestas> MarcN, theyre both front ends to init, shutdown just echoes 'system shutting down soon' to all terminals, which is useless on a single user syste
[05:39] <kestas> m
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> nox-Hand,  this is Linux! we are used to 5+ week uptimes!
[05:39] <phiqtion> is there a similar command to "ipconfig /all" in linux?
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> nox-Hand,  :P i rarely turn off my pcs
[05:39] <kestas> Dr_Willis, speak for yourself :) I like to shut my PC down
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> kestas,  you are a sicko!  :P
[05:40] <Xtreme984> @phiqtion doesn't ifconfig work??? (should display all connections if I'm correct
[05:40] <nox-Hand> 5+ week uptimes? Sorry, you lost me. I too like to shut down my com. Uses a lot of power
[05:40] <bshumate> phiqtion: ifconfig, and netstat will show even more info than "ipconfig" does
[05:40] <kestas> less power usage, less noise, I cant stand the 'it's okay that it takes 5min to boot up because you shouldnt turn it off' defence
[05:40] <julo> bshumate: thanks :)
[05:40] <nox-Hand> Dr_Willis: Do you 'live' here? ;)
[05:40] <kestas> Dr_Willis, not tallking about my servers though :P
[05:40] <SWAT> bor, ping
[05:41] <Stork> HOW do i get subtitles working with totem? I have a .avi file and a .srt file
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> nox-Hand,  it does? hmmm...    lets see.. 300W power supply.. actually as far as noise  - I built theis one to be quiet. :P my fish tank makes more noise.
[05:41] <Xtreme984> oh btw, where do I open a terminal window??? (first time on linux)
[05:41] <Stork> Xtreme984,  Applications > Accessories > Termina,
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> a PC with a 400W Power supply - is it constantly drawint 400W ?
[05:41] <Royce> is there an aac+ codec out there for ubuntu?
[05:41] <Xtreme984> ah, thanks Stork
[05:41] <Stork> no problem
[05:41] <kestas> Dr_Willis, nope thats max supply
[05:41] <Royce> Dr_Willis:  NO, it only draws what it needs
[05:42] <kestas> not actually sure how you measure power consumption
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> yea..  i was thinking it maybe drawing that much..  however.. guess not. I will ask the Electrians at work.
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> Heck they proberly got some meter - i can borrow
[05:42] <Xtreme984> I've tried to use a Fedora Core 4 liveCD once... was absolutely horrible... this works quite nicely so far :)
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> They got all sorts of load-meters and so forth.
[05:43] <Royce> you can purchase  a [iece to put on the outlet and then plug your puter into it, will measure wattage and such, not sure where to find one though
[05:43] <Stork> HOW do i get subtitles working with totem? I have a .avi file and a .srt file
[05:43] <lzap> installation under qemu failed in the second stage, is any1 running it? what about VMWARE PLAYER, can I use it? :-(
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> Stork,  hve you even checked the wikis  and forums for Totem/Ubuntu yet?
[05:43] <nox-Hand> Right, dinner time.. Time to go away. I shall try 'living' like Dr_Willis for a night now. Allthough will not be back untill much later. C ya
[05:43] <trappist> lzap: you can't create new vms in the vmware player
[05:43] <Stork> Dr_Willis, yes, about four times
[05:44] <lzap> is vmware faster than qemu with the kqemu?
[05:44] <greenpenguin13> yes
[05:45] <Xtreme984> the CDs I ordered through shipit just arrived today :D
[05:45] <trappist> I've never used qemu, but I'm going to say yes
[05:45] <greenpenguin13> but xen is quicker still
[05:45] <lzap> really:?
[05:45] <greenpenguin13> mine arrived weeks back :p
[05:45] <lzap> I have Gentoo and want to try Ubuntu
[05:45] <Xtreme984> <_<
[05:45] <greenpenguin13> it uses para-virtualisation or something
[05:45] <lzap> no free partitions :-)
[05:45] <Xtreme984> I've tried Fedora Core 4 before this, it didn't work...
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> Stork,  i just googled.. and it seems to be a command line option.
[05:45] <greenpenguin13> aah
[05:45] <Stork> Dr_Willis, i tried that, didn't want to work
[05:45] <greenpenguin13> stick w/ quemu
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> Stork,  could be your subtitle file is bad.
[05:46] <greenpenguin13> im using ubuntu and i want to try gentoo :p
[05:46] <lzap> greenpenguin13: lol :-) why? I am bored of compilation a bit
[05:46] <Xtreme984> although I'm kinda having problems with my mouse now... it's a wireless optical mouse (it doesn't respond all that nice on Ubuntu yet)
[05:46] <lzap> neverending story
[05:46] <lorion> Can someone recommend a good tape backup solution for ubuntu, one that can also backup windoze boxes?
[05:47] <guillen> what's the best p2p software for ubuntu?
[05:47] <greenpenguin13> i just want to try it out
[05:47] <greenpenguin13> ive got free partitions
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> guillen,  depends on your needs. theres a p2p ubuntu wiki page that sumarizes them all.
[05:47] <Xtreme984> hold on, brb
[05:47] <lorion> Xtreme984: which optical mouse are you using?
[05:47] <Stork> Dr_Willis, there's nothing wrong with it
[05:47] <guillen> ok thanx
[05:47] <Padre> can someone explain the setup process for spanning my root partition over two HDD's using the LVM?
[05:47] <lzap> greenpenguin13: theres no need to reboot a machine during the installation process :-) you can do it in your U
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> Stork,  logicially somting is wrong. :P  try some other players  is the next step in truble shooting would be my advice.
[05:48] <greenpenguin13> in ur U?
[05:48] <lzap> Ubuntu :-)
[05:48] <greenpenguin13> lol
[05:48] <cion> hey all just installed xfce
[05:48] <cion> wow it rocks man
[05:49] <greenpenguin13> ive got free partitions anyways, so why not :)
[05:49] <cion> things just go fast here
[05:49] <lorion> What are you guys using for backups on Ubuntu?
[05:49] <Xtreme984> Lorion, I dunno, it's my dad's it says the brand A4-tech on the cover
[05:49] <greenpenguin13> we dont have #xubuntu
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> lorion,  i tend to use Mondo/Mindi
[05:50] <cion> guys something weird happened i can't see my files but instead of my directory i see 3 points
[05:50] <cion> like ...
[05:50] <cion> and i can't access
[05:50] <bshumate> lorion: check out rsync, or unison, they're pretty cool
[05:50] <greenpenguin13> oh wait we do
[05:50] <cion> i can't get my files
[05:50] <cion> why?
[05:50] <greenpenguin13> try #xubuntu
[05:50] <lorion> Xtreme984, I have a MS Bluetooth wireless mouse that works great.. just wondering if you had the same mouse.
[05:51] <lorion> Dr_Willis, thanks, I will check them out.
[05:57] <phiqtion> l
[05:57] <phiqtion> sup guys
[05:58] <mikejw> phiqtion: sup :)
[05:58] <phiqtion> mikejw: enyoying ubuntu
[05:59] <mikejw> good for you
[05:59] <phiqtion> hell yeah
[06:01] <davix> excuse me for ignorance but what does port 139 do? why is it opened? and shall I be worried?
[06:01] <thefish> davix: its for windows shares
[06:02] <davix> oic
[06:02] <davix> lovely
[06:02] <davix> :)
[06:02] <davix> tnx
[06:02] <thefish> if you are running a samba server its ok, as long as its not reachable from the net
[06:02] <legolas> hi guys, can i ask what is difference between debian and ubuntu
[06:02] <Jowi> davix: cat /etc/protocols will give you a nice list
[06:02] <davix> tnx Jowi
[06:02] <thefish> or even better: grep 139 /etc/services
[06:03] <MarcN> legolas: ubuntu is a derivative of debian.
[06:03] <Jowi> davix, thefish; yeah, services is better
[06:03] <legolas> MarcN, so commands, and structure are same?
[06:03] <legolas> so if i buy debian book to learn linux, its same like with ubuntu
[06:04] <trappist> legolas: most of what you learn will apply to ubuntu, but there will be a few surprises
[06:05] <legolas> can you suggest some some nice book to learn ubuntu/debian (linux)
[06:05] <linux_n00b_e> How is everyone today?
[06:05] <shinu> how can i change the picture that shows up when ubuntu is loading ?
[06:06] <Jowi> linux_n00b_e: great. but that is quite a big generalisation since "everyone" doesn't talk to me ;-)
[06:06] <LoPMX> hi
[06:06] <Jowi> shinu: there is several posts in the ubuntu forums (look in the tips and tricks section)
[06:06] <LoPMX> how can i change default window manager?
[06:07] <shinu> Jowi: okies thanks for the hint
[06:07] <Jowi> LoPMX: install whichever you want. If if gets added automaticly (xfce, kde, gnome) just choose it in the gdm login manager as a session. If not, you need to execute it in your .xsession file.
[06:08] <obe1> ok i used make-kpkg to build a custom kernel, but i realized, i need the nvidia driver. anyone know the "ubuntu" way for doing nvidia drivers with custom build kernel.. i.e. what to do with the linux-restricted-modules package? thanks
[06:08] <linux_n00b_e> I have a question: Is there a way to replace or upgrade the processor and CPU in a computer?
[06:08] <MarcN> linux_n00b_e: yes.
[06:08] <Jowi> linux_n00b_e: it depends on your motherboard
[06:09] <Matthew> i installed ubuntu "server" because i wanted to load xubuntu
[06:09] <Matthew> but my networking is not working
[06:09] <linux_n00b_e> Really? Where could I find info on that?
[06:09] <LoPMX> Jowi: thanks
[06:09] <MarcN> linux_n00b_e: you need to know what you are doing though.  Don't buy anything until you are sure.
[06:10] <Matthew> so far, the only way i have gotten this little card to work is the gentoo installation cd. NOT my own gentoo when i compiled the kernel, mind you
[06:10] <Jowi> LoPMX: no probs. if (like me) you install some unknown window manager like Oroborus, you need to add a line like "exec /usr/bin/oroborus" at the end of your .xsession file and choose "Default" as sesion in GDM
[06:10] <Matthew> how do i set up ethernet from terminal - type interface?
[06:10] <linux_n00b_e> I have a computer with a Pentium II and I'd like to upgrade the chip, but I figured I'd have to replace the whole entire motherboard and CPU in order to do that....
[06:10] <sambagirl> is there a help channel for irc?
[06:11] <potus> can someone tell me that tar command to take a 'snapshot' of my whole system (premission and all)
[06:11] <jeed890> sambagirl yes there is
[06:11] <joachim-n> what does this mean in synaptic: "W: Couldn't stat source package list http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com ..."
[06:11] <potus> apt-get update
[06:11] <jeed890> is seveas here?
[06:11] <joachim-n> linux_n00b_e, CPU & processor are the same thing
[06:11] <sambagirl> do you know it's name jeed890?
[06:11] <hedonick> linux_n00b_e: probably true with a computer that old. It's not like you can cram any newfangled processor in there.
[06:12] <jeed890> no ill get it
[06:12] <Jowi> Matthew: ifconfig eth0 inet dhcp up (should work if you use dhcp)
[06:12] <jeed890> for you
[06:12] <Agrajag> linux_n00b_e: you'll also need new RAM
[06:12] <sambagirl> much thanks
[06:12] <jeed890> #userhelp
[06:12] <Matthew> i typed ifconfig and i got something back under eth0
[06:12] <Agrajag> linux_n00b_e: and probably a new power supply
[06:12] <Jowi> Matthew: does it have a "inet addr:"?
[06:12] <linux_n00b_e> So how would I go about finding out what particular items I'd need to upgrade this Gateway 2000?
[06:12] <Agrajag> ugh
[06:12] <jeed890> thats it sambagirl
[06:13] <Agrajag> a gateway?
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> Eww. :P
[06:13] <Matthew> jowi now
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> Lol.
[06:13] <sambagirl> thank yopu
[06:13] <Agrajag> You'd be better off buying a new computer
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> considering the nice machines ya can get for $300 now a days...
[06:13] <jeed890> anytime sambagirl
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> which make good little Linux boxs
[06:13] <Matthew> jowi lo has inet addr but not eth0
[06:13] <reagleBRKLN> [4478350.969000]  atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0). [4478350.969000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known." my syslog is full of those two lines, how to fix it so they don't fill the log?
[06:13] <Eddie> Does anyone know of an application I can use to capture stills from my webcam
[06:13] <Jowi> Matthew: how do you usually connect to the internet?
[06:13] <Eddie> Ive tried "webcam" it just freezes my PC
[06:14] <Matthew> jowi - i'm on a different computer.
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> Eddie,  Mine does also.. whats your webcam?
[06:14] <Matthew> jowi - on that computer, in windows, both the ethernet and a pcmcia wireless card work
[06:14] <Eddie> Dr_Willis: trust spacecam 120
[06:14] <Matthew> jowi - i have taken the wireless card out tho
[06:14] <phiqtion> is gnome and kde the only window managers? where can i get more?
[06:14] <jeed890> eddie try www.donload.com for webcam still programs
[06:14] <Sanne> reagleBRKLN: I believe this is a known kernel bug, wait a sec, I'll get you the info.
[06:14] <Jowi> Matthew: you connect the ethernet to a router?
[06:14] <Eddie> download.com does Linux software?
[06:14] <Matthew> jowi yes
[06:14] <jeed890> it should do
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> Eddie,  I got a creative WebCamNX  - everytime any prgram acces it. the whole pc locks up. :(
[06:15] <jeed890> ive got some linux software from it before
[06:15] <Agrajag> Why would you use download.com for linux software?
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> freshmeat.net - may be a better place for linux software
[06:15] <Agrajag> Rather than synaptic?
[06:15] <Jowi> Matthew: what does "ifconfig eth0 inet dhcp up" do for you?
[06:15] <nox-Hand> Hey
[06:15] <BlueDevil> Dr_Willis: same happens to me with another cam
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> now ya could use freshmeat and download.com - to search for programs and then find them with synaptic. :P
[06:15] <nox-Hand> Agrajag: I thought you lost your last life in the cathedral of hate? ;)
[06:15] <phiqtion> is gnome and kde the only window managers? where can i get more?
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> and install them with synaptic.
[06:15] <Matthew> jowi: dhcp: Host name lookup failure
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> phiqtion,  synaptic has several dozen.
[06:16] <reagleBRKLN> Sanne: ok, thanks
[06:16] <Agrajag> nox-Hand: that's later, I haven't even been to stavromulla beta yet
[06:16] <phiqtion> Dr_Willis: which ones you recommend?
[06:16] <lou_> Hey all, anyone know how to check how much space I have on my filesystem?
[06:16] <BlueDevil> phiqtion: try xfce, flubbox, blackbox...
[06:16] <Eddie> basically I need a linux clone of "amcap" on windows
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> phiqtion,  check out 'icewm' 'windowmaker'   and others.. depends on what you want.
[06:16] <BlueDevil> phiqtion: fluxbox
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> phiqtion,  xubuntu-desktop   - is very good also.
[06:16] <nox-Hand> Agrajag: Oh, right. My mistake. Good luck then
[06:16] <rambo3> afterstep
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> Afterstep - Lol. :P aint seen that onementioned in ages
[06:17] <phiqtion> Dr_Willis: xubuntu desktop, what is it
[06:17] <lou_> Hey all, anyone know how to check how much space I have on my filesystem?
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> !info xubuntu-desktop
[06:17] <ubotu> xubuntu-desktop: (Xubuntu desktop system), section universe/misc, is optional. Version: 1.4 (breezy), Packaged size: 5 kB, Installed size: 32 kB
[06:17] <BlueDevil> lou_: df -h ; man df
[06:17] <lou_> tx
[06:18] <Sanne> reagleBRKLN: install rcconf and disable hotkey-setup. Details here: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17569
[06:18] <reagleBRKLN> thanks
[06:18] <phiqtion> Dr_Willis: im downloading xubuntu, any else?
[06:18] <Sanne> reagleBRKLN: you're welcome
[06:18] <fr500> !backports
[06:18] <ubotu> rumour has it, backports is Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> phiqtion,  get whatever ya want. :P
[06:18] <Thorpe> I need help with music on Ubuntu.
[06:19] <phiqtion> Dr_Willis: okay, what are the names. like xubuntu-desktop
[06:19] <Matthew> jowi - are you still here? when i typed just ifconfig eth0 inet up  something happened
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> phiqtion,  synaptic has a search feature :P   also may want to look at  http://www.plig.org/xwinman/
[06:19] <Jowi> Matthew: yeah, was searching the forums :)
[06:20] <Jowi> Matthew: you got an ip now?
[06:20] <Matthew> jowi - i don't think so
[06:20] <Matthew> i get more stuff.
[06:20] <Howdy125> It's probably your spca5xx video driver locking up your cams .. needs to be recompiled with an older version of gcc ...
[06:20] <jeed890> does anybody know where seveas is?
[06:20] <Jowi> define "stuff"
[06:20] <Thorpe> Anyone know where I can get plugin to play MP3?
[06:20] <fr500> !extras
[06:20] <ubotu> it has been said that extras is For extra repositories, check out http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[06:20] <jesse_> hi folks .. how do I partition a second HD on a dual boot system? Can I use my Ubuntu cd and then use the partioner there?
[06:21] <jeed890> jesse yes u can
[06:21] <Jowi> jesse_: yep
[06:21] <Matthew> jowi - no ip
[06:21] <Jowi> Matthew: what is the router address?
[06:21] <jesse_> do I use "manual partition"?
[06:21] <filou2> hi
[06:22] <Matthew> jowi. how do i find that out? :)
[06:22] <Jowi> Matthew: is the computer you're at now connected to the router?
[06:22] <moonstone> Hi!
[06:22] <Jowi> hello Moofed
[06:22] <joachim-n> jesse_, I'd recommend a live CD with gparted on it
[06:22] <Jowi> hello moonstone even
[06:23] <Jowi> (autocomp. sometimes is to quick for me)
[06:23] <Matthew> jowi yes
[06:23] <Matthew> jowi this comp is connected to router
[06:23] <filou2> I'm trying to execute the useradd command through a PHP script. For security reasons, it doesn't want to execute it. So I create a C program that runs it, and I set it +s. Now, if I login as www-data, I can execute this program and it works. But from the PHP command system (), it doesn't work. Any idea ?
[06:23] <jesse_> joachim-n OK I have it and am familiar with gparted
[06:23] <moonstone> Any musicians here? I need help with rosegarden4.
[06:23] <Jowi> Matthew: what is the ip address for that computer?
[06:23] <jeed890> jesse just load normal boot then go to partition and let it choose the patitions then edit them
[06:23] <fr500> hello
[06:23] <fr500> is mono 1.1 available in backports?
[06:23] <fr500> i want the new banshee
[06:24] <_null> try another repo
[06:24] <HappyFool> fr500: packages.ubuntu.com will let you search backports
[06:24] <jeed890> seveas i have info u asked for
[06:24] <fr500> kk
[06:24] <_null> fr500, deb http://debian.meebey.net/ ./
[06:24] <jesse_> jeed890 do I need a logical and a primary on the second HD
[06:24] <jeed890> i would go with that
[06:24] <jeed890> but let it decide for you
[06:24] <jeed890> i recomend it for large hdds
[06:25] <Matthew> jowi. according to whatismyip.com mine is 65.68.174.110
[06:25] <jeed890> wot size is the hhd ur partitioning
[06:25] <fr500> _null:  should i disable those after installing?
[06:25] <jeed890> ???
[06:25] <_null> fr500, I didn't do that...
[06:25] <jesse_> jeed890 OK si its basically the same process as when I parttioned the first HD? (216 GB)
[06:25] <jeed890> wot siz
[06:25] <Jowi> Matthew: that is your public address. your computer and router has got a local address. check the ipaddress of the computer you're on now. Windows or linux machine?
[06:25] <filou2> /join ~php
[06:25] <filou2> /join #php
[06:25] <filou2> /join #php
[06:25] <jeed890> that plenty
[06:25] <jesse_> si I meant
[06:25] <Matthew> jowi windows
[06:26] <filou2> :)
[06:26] <jesse_> so
[06:26] <jeed890> what version are u using ?
[06:26] <highvoltage> /join #php should do :)
[06:26] <rambo3> ./j #php
[06:26] <jesse_> hoary
[06:26] <Jowi> Matthew: start -> run -> cmd. "ipconfig" will give you the address
[06:26] <jeed890> 5.04?
[06:26] <jesse_> yes
[06:27] <jeed890> same as me
[06:27] <jesse_> :)
[06:27] <jeed890> so just go to partitioning normal boot
[06:27] <jeed890> go to manual edit
[06:27] <jeed890> choose partition on the hdd u wanna use
[06:27] <orphaned> can anyone help me with regards to a laser printer installation?
[06:27] <orphaned> please?
[06:28] <jeed890> then make a new partition
[06:28] <jeed890> maybe 2
[06:28] <jeed890> make sure file types are
[06:28] <jeed890> swap
[06:28] <Matthew> jowi 192.168.1.2
[06:28] <Jowi> !tell orphaned about printing
[06:28] <jeed890> and ext2 or ext3
[06:28] <olicat> does anyone know of a service that lets you  have use ssh? i'm trying to test a server, but need to test it from 'outside'
[06:28] <jeed890> ok jesse?
[06:28] <jesse_> two really big swap partitions?
[06:29] <jeed890> 1 over 1.6 gb swap and another ext2 or ext3
[06:29] <orphaned> its regarding an error I get when I try to run the setup script provided by Xerox...
[06:29] <Jowi> Matthew: Your router address (gateway for your computers) is 192.168.1.1. in linux: "ifconfig eth0 inet 192.168.1.5 up"
[06:29] <jesse_> OOOOOOOO Thanks
[06:29] <toothpick> I want to move my home partition to a new partition.
[06:29] <hd420> % sudo /sbin/ifconfig eth0 inet 192.168.2.18 netmask 0xffffff00 down
[06:29] <jesse_> now I understand
[06:29] <jesse_> many thanks
[06:29] <hd420> SIOSIFADDR: File exists
[06:30] <jeed890> toothpick just do copy partition
[06:30] <toothpick> Do I just do this: cp -rf /home  TO THE NEW PARTITION?
[06:30] <hd420> SIONETMASK: Cannot assign requested address
[06:30] <jeed890> anytime jesse any problems get back to me
[06:30] <toothpick> Then in fstab mount the NEW PARTITION as /home ?
[06:30] <jeed890> that should work
[06:30] <orphaned> I tried the wiki already. I did the instructions but this is what I get: /home/orphaned/.setup14045: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:30] <jeed890> or get a partitioning program
[06:30] <Matthew> jowi - now i have an inet
[06:30] <crankshaft> hi, how do I run "dict" when i have installed "dict" and "moby-thesaurus" .... i really need a thesaurus and can't figure out how to actually run the program
[06:30] <jeed890> to do it for you
[06:30] <Matthew> how do i tell if it is working?
[06:30] <Jowi> Matthew: "ping -c 5 192.168.1.1"
[06:31] <Danielle-> hi, are the ubuntuforums being DDoSed atm? i'd do some traceroute times but i'm still abit of a newbie with Ubuntu and don't have the correct tolls
[06:31] <hd420> what gives?
[06:31] <hd420> % sudo /sbin/ifconfig eth0 inet 192.168.2.18 netmask 0xffffff00 up
[06:31] <hd420> SIOSIFADDR: File exists
[06:31] <hd420> SIONETMASK: Cannot assign requested address
[06:31] <Bufferfly> hey people, i burnt the cdrom with nero, but it wont boot....bios options checked. any ideas?
[06:31] <orphaned> does this mean I have to install libgtk-1.2?
[06:31] <Jowi> Danielle-: forums just got slow a few minutes ago. noticed it myself
[06:31] <Matthew> jowi - it did it ok once, then 4 "destination host unreachable"
[06:31] <toothpick> jeed copy partition?
[06:32] <Matthew> jowi 5 packets transmitted, 0 received, +4 errors 100% packet loss
[06:32] <Matthew> jowi that doesn't sound good
[06:32] <kvarntun> why cant i listen to MP3 files? i have changed the music shit to ALSA..
[06:32] <fr500> hd420: hello
[06:32] <hd420> fr500: hello, mate
[06:32] <Jowi> Matthew: no, it's not good. is the cable connected properly to the router?
[06:32] <jeed890> yer some programs on the net avaliable for free can copy partitions for you
[06:32] <Danielle-> thanks, Jowi i wonder what's happening? i think another Ubuntu site was DDoSed the other day
[06:33] <jeed890> (toothpick)
[06:33] <fr500> hd420: type ip address list and see if the ip is already in the interface
[06:33] <Bufferfly>  i burnt ubuntu in the cdrom with nero, but it wont boot....bios options checked. any ideas?
[06:33] <toothpick> ls
[06:33] <Bufferfly> do i need to use a floppy or something?
[06:33] <Jowi> Danielle-: no idea. i posted there just 30 minutes ago and now impossible to get through
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> Bufferfly,  look at the cd.. whats on it. Lots of files? or a single whatever.iso ?
[06:33] <Matthew> jowi - it is properly connected, but i think i'm havving some kind of hardware issues
[06:33] <hd420> fr500: what's the command? ifconfig?
[06:33] <Matthew> jowi blinking lights and what hav eyou
[06:33] <fr500> nope
[06:33] <Bufferfly> good point
[06:34] <fr500> hd420: just $sudo ip address list
[06:34] <Bufferfly> Dr_Willis, ill have to check, load of files
[06:34] <Danielle-> it must be an attack then!
[06:34] <fr500> hd420: ifconfig is deprecated
[06:34] <Jowi> Matthew: try to put the cable into another port in the router, just to check
[06:34] <Matthew> jowi maybe the connection from the wall to dsl modem, or dsl modem to router is bad? but this comp is working ok
[06:34] <Matthew> jowi - its ok to do that while everything is up and running?
[06:34] <Jowi> Matthew: nope, your internet connection is fine
[06:34] <Kvarntun^SWE> why cant i listen to MP3 files? i have changed the music option to ALSA in the program and in the speaker on the desktop.......
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> Bufferfly,  oh.. thats a good sign. :P I normally use "Burn at once" to burn my .iso files.. it seems easier to use thennero for such  simple task.
[06:34] <hd420> fr500: yes, it is listed
[06:34] <orphaned> its for the Xerox Phaser 3116 printer
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> Bufferfly,  next thing would be to check the md5 sums of the .iso file and compare them to the sum on the download page.
[06:35] <Jowi> Matthew: yeah, you can replace the cables without affecting your internet connection or the connection for the working machine.
[06:35] <Bufferfly> ahh ok and that worked well for you? is it free?
[06:35] <hd420> pinging the router "Destination Host unreachable"
[06:35] <orphaned> anyone has the same?
[06:35] <moonstone> If somebody know how to setup Rosegarden4 with SB Live! Please let me know! (im dying trying)
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> Bufferfly,  yep.. hers the url....
[06:35] <Matthew> jowi - same result
[06:35] <jeed890> toothpick go to http://www.thefreecountry.com/utilities/partitioneditors.shtml
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> Bufferfly,  http://www.burnatonce.com/index.htm?downloads
[06:35] <Bufferfly> thanks Dr_Willis
[06:36] <Kvarntun^SWE> why cant i listen to MP3 files? i have changed the music option to ALSA in the program and in the speaker on the desktop.
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> Bufferfly,  i found some add on for windows xp that puts a 'cacluate hash values context menu' but cant find the site now. :()
[06:36] <fr500> hd420: type sudo ip address del 192.168.1.1/24 dev eth0
[06:36] <fr500> hd420: replace the fields accordingly
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> Kvarntun^SWE,  you have check the ubuntu wikis? they give detailed docs on  that topic.
[06:36] <phiqtion> in what category inside sypnantic can i find other stuff like gnome and kde
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> phiqtion,  use the search for 'window manager'
[06:37] <Kvarntun^SWE> Dr_Willis, what? wikis?
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> Kvarntun^SWE,  time to learn about the VERY WELL done ubuntu documention. :P
[06:37] <hd420> RTNETLINK answers: Cannot assign requested address
[06:37] <rambo3> its like wiskas , only not cat food
[06:37] <Kvarntun^SWE> okej?
[06:37] <WildZeck> lol
[06:37] <phiqtion> Dr_Willis: can i run windows xp inside linux?
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> Kvarntun^SWE,  check the topic..the url is there...
[06:38] <Kvarntun^SWE> okok
[06:38] <orphaned> cant anyone help me? the Wiki instruction didn't work
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> phiqtion,  yes... with the right stuff... but why bother. :P
[06:38] <Jowi> Matthew: ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.5 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255
[06:38] <rambo3> what programs do you need windows for?
[06:38] <Kvarntun^SWE> wich shall i copy Dr_Willis ?
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> Kvarntun^SWE,  huh?
[06:39] <fr500> hd420: pm me
[06:39] <Kvarntun^SWE> wich of the URL:s shall i take?
[06:39] <rambo3> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[06:39] <Matthew> jowi - "host name lookup failure"
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> Kvarntun^SWE,  the one with wiki and ubuntu in it. :P
[06:39] <Jowi> Matthew: "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[06:39] <hd420> fr500: yes
[06:40] <SWAT> bor, ping
[06:40] <Matthew> jowi ok
[06:40] <Matthew> jowi should there be an "up" at the end of that long entry?
[06:41] <raimian> a little box with a speaker and a loading bar keeps appearing then dissapearing, that do i do?????????
[06:41] <Matthew> jowi that doesn't help either
[06:41] <Matthew> hee hee
[06:41] <Jowi> Matthew: you have gnome installed or just the command line?
[06:42] <raimian> help!
[06:43] <soeme> !german
[06:43] <ubotu> soeme: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[06:43] <Matthew> jowi just the command line i think
[06:43] <Matthew> i did a "server" install
[06:43] <Danielle-> Jowi-: forums seem fine now. do you know pingplotter for windows? is there a similar program for Ubuntu?
[06:43] <Matthew> the whole point of that is to be un-gnomed. :v)
[06:43] <Agrajag> !de
[06:43] <ubotu> de is, like, Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[06:43] <Agrajag> is that what you wanted?
[06:43] <raimian> ubuntu is CRAP 4 hours to install and it dont even work
[06:44] <kibab> raimian: about 30 minutes for me and it worked great.
[06:44] <Jowi> Matthew: ok. lets see if your /etc/network/interfaces is ok. do you have a "iface lo..." and a "iface eth0..." in there? ("cat /etc/networking/interfaces")
[06:44] <fr500> raimian: what computer?
[06:44] <fr500> raimian: took little more than 30min
[06:44] <raimian> a saintsong
[06:44] <fr500> flawless now
[06:44] <Agrajag> raimian: maybe if you asked a specific question instead of "help!" we'd be able to help you
[06:45] <raimian> nothing on it works, it starts up, i login, then the whole thing freezes up
[06:45] <Matthew> jowi - i odn't have /etc/networking/
[06:45] <Matthew> i have /etc/network
[06:46] <Matthew> but it doesn't have those files
[06:46] <Jowi> Matthew: sorry. yeah, /etc/network/interfaces
[06:46] <Jowi> Matthew: nothing at all in there?
[06:46] <Matthew> jowi - yes... sorry...
[06:46] <Matthew> auto lo
[06:47] <Matthew> iface lo inet loopback
[06:47] <Matthew> mapping hotplug script grep, map eth0
[06:47] <kibab> Jowi: offhand... how do you configure /etc/network/interfaces post-install?
[06:47] <Matthew> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[06:47] <Kyral> sudo!
[06:47] <Kyral> oh wait this is in a script lol
[06:47] <Jowi> Matthew: looks good.
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> raimian,  4 hrs? gesh whats your machine cpu/specs anyway?
[06:48] <zumanchuz> Hi, I have a relatively easy question. I'm running hoary and I want to upgrade to Breezy. I would like to do a dist-upgrade in hoary. The problem is that I'm running it on a tablet pc and currently my custom kernel works with my stylus. I was wondering if after I do the upgrade I would have to produce another custom kernel?
[06:48] <bshumate> raimian: the fact that it required four hours indicates you either have some seriously broken hardware, or a badly corrupted install media
[06:48] <Kyral> zumanchuz: I don't think so
[06:48] <zumanchuz> sweet thanks kyral
[06:48] <pawdro> hi, if i want to compile the latest kernel in breezy, do i only have to download kernel from kernel.org?
[06:49] <Kyral> you'd have to reedit your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:49] <Kyral> to put the kernel back on the list though
[06:49] <Jowi> Matthew: just to make sure it is not the cable maybe you should take the cable from the win box and put it straight to the linux box. then do "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" (this will shut down your internet connection for the win box of course)
[06:49] <perco_> How do I open .deb-files in ubuntu?
[06:49] <rambo3> the time and space and kernel will have to change
[06:49] <Jowi> kibab: by hand work fine :-)
[06:49] <Kyral> perco_: dpkg
[06:49] <Kyral> to install use sudo dpkg -i </path/to/file>
[06:50] <bshumate> pawdro: no-  check this out instead : https://wiki.ubuntu.com//KernelHowto
[06:50] <kibab> Jowi: yeah... I just had a friend give me a copy of his... but I was hoping there was some tool to do it for me.
[06:50] <orphaned> Madpilot: can you help me with my Xerox printer, its a Phaser 3116
[06:50] <Matthew-> jowi are you still here?
[06:50] <Jowi> Matthew-: just to make sure it is not the cable maybe you should take the cable from the win box and put it straight to the linux box. then do "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" (this will shut down your internet connection for the win box of course)
[06:50] <cion> hey if i install xfce can I uninstall Gnome desktop?
[06:50] <cion> is it safe to do so?
[06:50] <Matthew-> jowi - win box is wireless
[06:50] <SWAT> bor, ping
[06:50] <Toran> hey guys, how can I make "irc://" links work in firefox?
[06:50] <Jowi> Matthew: ouch. ok.
[06:51] <meepy> I love ubunutu <3
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> cion,  keep gnome.
[06:51] <Jowi> Matthew: well, this is getting complex. do you have the login/password for the router?
[06:52] <Matthew-> jowi. i do. should i try it from this linux box or fire up the desktop with physical connection to box?
[06:52] <Matthew-> jowi i don't know if i can access it from this computer (wireless)
[06:52] <cion> is a ubuntu version coming out of the box with xfce only?
[06:53] <Matthew-> cion search for xubuntu
[06:53] <Kyral> cion: I think for Dapper ISOs will be available
[06:53] <Jowi> Matthew: you can not even ping the router from the linux box so that's a no go. if you log in to the router and check if it can see the linux box in "connected devices" or something similar.
[06:53] <Matthew-> cion i dunno if they have cds yet tho
[06:53] <cion> :( 2bad
[06:53] <Kyral> cion: You can do it if you do a server install, add Multiverse and Universe, and then sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[06:53] <Matthew-> booting
[06:54] <phiqtion> my emulator "zsnes" doesn't have sound. any ideas?
[06:54] <cion> where do i find instructions to that Kyral?
[06:54] <Matthew-> jowi - i was trying to follow kyral's advice there. but that doesn't work well without internet.
[06:54] <Matthew-> also , why bother if no internet?
[06:54] <Jowi> Matthew-: doesn't matter if you do it wirelessly or not. we're not gonna change any settings in the router
[06:55] <Matthew-> jowi - it doesn't show up
[06:55] <cion> ok having a wireless lan connection I think uninstalling gnome would become a pain in the a... right?
[06:55] <Jowi> Matthew-: maybe you should see if a restart of the linux box help. It might be the cable but impossible to say.
[06:56] <Jowi> cion: some gnome apps may not work. if you have the space it is easier just to leave it on the machine.
[06:58] <Jowi> Matthew-: is "dhcp" activated in the router, and have you perhaps set up an "access list" in it? if you have set up trusted clients in the router that might be why the linux box cannot connect...
[06:58] <Matthew-> jowi - it sort o fhangs on "waiting for network interface to come up"
[06:59] <Jowi> Matthew: that means that it tries to get an ip-address from the router but fail.
[06:59] <cion> ok
[07:00] <filou10> Hi
[07:00] <Matthew-> ok. its rebooted
[07:00] <Matthew-> the name resolution thing failed.
[07:00] <Matthew-> i will try the other cable, yes?
[07:00] <Jowi> Matthew-: I would first check the router settings to see if you have any filters/accesslist configured (if you do, remove them). Then try another cable.
[07:00] <filou10> I have installed courier-imap but I have a question: if I create a new user using adduser, what do i need to do for courier to automatically create a new IMAP user too ?
[07:01] <Jowi> Matthew-: yeah. my gut say its the cable. i think your network card is ok and your router seem to work just fine.
[07:02] <Matthew-> netsplit?
[07:03] <Matthew-> jowi am i still here?
[07:03] <bullitt> you are still here to me
[07:03] <Happuf> Matthew-: Yes youare.
[07:03] <bullitt> haha
[07:03] <Happuf> :D
[07:03] <Matthew-> LOL sorry. it said i had left
[07:03] <Happuf> Split happens :D
[07:03] <Matthew-> Jowi - i have now plugged in the other cable. reboot again?
[07:03] <Happuf> Hehe.
[07:03] <Jowi> Matthew-: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[07:04] <stjepan> hi
[07:04] <stjepan> anyone of you has graphics card Gainward GF?
[07:06] <Jowi> Matthew-: brb
[07:06] <Matthew-> ok. i forgot who to ping
[07:06] <Matthew-> :)
[07:06] <noplease> hi
[07:07] <bullitt> I'm getting a msg when I run a script I just wrote.  this is the line is has a problem with: export EPSXE='/usr/local/games/epsxe'  and the error I get is 'usr/local/games/epsxe' is not a valid identifier.  the directory does exist, and the scripts permission is 777
[07:08] <Jowi> Matthew-: any luck? you have an ip address?
[07:08] <Matthew-> jowi no. and i lost the part above where you told me what to type
[07:08] <Matthew-> i rebooted
[07:08] <Matthew-> :v)
[07:09] <Jowi> Matthew-: that's fine. so is it rebooted and did it help?
[07:09] <Matthew-> jowi - but it looks like i'm hung at waiting for network interface again
[07:09] <Matthew-> waiting for it to finish
[07:09] <Katsumiro> what?
[07:10] <Jowi> Matthew-: if this doesn't help, last advice i can give you is to reset the router. if that doesn't do it; search the forum for your excact network card to see if there is any issues. strange.
[07:10] <Matthew-> ok jowi. i type ifconfig and i've got no inet address
[07:10] <Jowi> Matthew-: was afraid of that
[07:10] <robotgeek> bullitt: you basically need export PATH, see your .bash_profile for a way to add the path correctly
[07:11] <Matthew-> what did you tell me to type above that gave it one?
[07:11] <bshumate> bullitt : try without the single quotes (') you should not need those
[07:11] <Jowi> Matthew-: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[07:11] <Matthew-> jowi no i meant the one where we gave it an ip
[07:11] <Jowi> Matthew-: ifconfig eth0 inet 192.168.1.5 up
[07:11] <robotgeek> bullitt: nvm, my bad
[07:13] <ubuntu_> oi
[07:14] <Matthew-> jowi. no good. :v(  thank you so much for all your help though. one more question - is it possible to setup a wireless driver through ndiswrapper with only the command line?
[07:14] <robotgeek_away> ubotu: tell Matthew- about ndiswrapper
[07:14] <sunshine82> i have a canon canoscan lide 20 scanner i cant get it to work please help
[07:14] <Jowi> Matthew-: yep, think with iwconfig.
[07:14] <Jowi> !ndiswrapper
[07:14] <ubotu> methinks ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[07:14] <sunshine82> ive checked the device mangger it has picked it up it a usb scanner
[07:15] <pawdro> why i cant find in apt-cache search the latest kernel source
[07:15] <pawdro> ?
[07:15] <Matthew-> jowi i don't know how to use the ! . where do i type it
[07:16] <Jowi> Matthew-: no idea. never set up a wireless card in linux. :-)
[07:16] <Mazoku> pawdro sudo apt-get update?
[07:16] <pawdro> nope
[07:16] <pawdro> ;] 
[07:16] <Matthew-> jowi--- but you keep typing things like !<thing>
[07:16] <Matthew-> jowi i don't know what tha tmeans
[07:17] <pawdro> now yes, but no latest kernel
[07:17] <pawdro> what to add to sorces.list
[07:17] <pawdro> ?
[07:17] <sunshine82> how do get it work
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> sunshine82,  check the SANE homepage for how well that scanner is supported.
[07:17] <Jowi> Matthew-: that is to tell ubotu the bot to print things
[07:18] <Jowi> !tell Matthew- about ndiswrapper
[07:18] <Matthew-> !ndiswrapper
[07:18] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> !ipv6
[07:18] <ubotu> Dr_Willis: Do they come in packets of five?
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> heh.
[07:18] <pawdro> i cant find 2.6.14.3 in apt-cache search
[07:19] <Matthew-> thanks. hee hee
[07:19] <pawdro> what to do?
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> is there a reason ipv6 is enabled by default? is there a good reason to try to disable it?
[07:19] <webwolf_27> pawdro, you can always custom build from the sources
[07:19] <Matthew-> !iwconfig
[07:19] <ubotu> Matthew-: I don't know
[07:19] <bshumate> pawdro: if you need the absolute latest kernel, e.g. 2.6.14 or so, then you may have to do it all by hand, and it may not be a lot of fun for you...
[07:20] <Jowi> Dr_Willis: I have no use for it, so i disabled it.
[07:20] <linux_n00b_e> How do I add the Flash player plug-in to my Firefox Browser?
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> Jowi,  yea.. id  eard it could slow some things down.. but seen no proof of that
[07:20] <Jowi> Dr_Willis: I removed it totally from my kernel to speed it up and got rid of some modules (a whooole bunch of them)
[07:20] <madboar> Hello. I was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction for configuring ssh-agent for my X sessions in ubuntu
[07:20] <webwolf_27> linux_n00b_e, depends, do you want the newest one
[07:20] <jc-denton> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-78597.html
[07:20] <pawdro> in apt-get cache search i can find only 2.6.12 source
[07:20] <kaur> hi
[07:21] <pawdro> not latest
[07:21] <madboar> i have tried adding to .xsessions etc, but with no luck ...
[07:21] <jc-denton> i have the same problem with eclipse on ubuntu breezy
[07:21] <Matthew-> jowie thank you so much for your help. i am going to try to get the wireless card up, if possible...
[07:21] <korhalf> no one in the #openoffice.org room is talking
[07:21] <korhalf> so ill ask here
[07:21] <jc-denton> The file /usr/share/eclipse/debian/help.htm cannot be found. Please check the location and try again."
[07:21] <korhalf> i try to use the Report Wizard but it just opens OO Writer
[07:21] <Mazoku> pawdro kernel.org here you find new kernel
[07:21] <Jowi> Matthew-: no probs, good luck!
[07:21] <jc-denton> there is also no eclipse-doc package
[07:21] <kaur> could anyone help me with local network problem?
[07:21] <korhalf> theres no wizard at all
[07:21] <korhalf> whats up with that?
[07:21] <jc-denton> does anybody here use eclipse under breezy
[07:21] <jc-denton> ?
[07:21] <linux_n00b_e> Yes, i want the absolute latest Player. I think it's 8. can't I just download it direct from Macromedia's website?
[07:21] <kaur> the computer running ubuntu can access to the computer running xp
[07:22] <kaur> but not via versa
[07:22] <pawdro> so i can download and compile dowloaded kernel compile?
[07:22] <sunshine82> dr_willis i dont know what this mean http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html#Z-CANON
[07:22] <pawdro> compile downloaded kernel*
[07:22] <Mazoku> pawdro yeap
[07:22] <bshumate> pawdro: yes, this is normal.  the latest kernel will put you on the cutting edge, and may cause more trouble than it is worth unless you really know what you are doing.  is there a valid reason why you must have the latest kernel?  if not, then there is no need to use it...
[07:22] <sunshine82> dr_willis under canoscan lide 20
[07:23] <viller> hi
[07:23] <sunshine82> what plustek
[07:23] <viller> where's the community artwork page at ubuntulinux.org wiki??
[07:23] <pawdro> i want to compile the kernel on my own to make kernel the best suitable for my comp
[07:24] <linux_n00b_e> Anybody know how to add the Flash Player 8 plug-in to the Firefox Browser?
[07:24] <viller> where's the community artwork page at ubuntulinux.org wiki??
[07:24] <webwolf_27> pawdro, download it from kernel.org
[07:24] <rambo3> ever considerd gentoo then
[07:24] <bshumate> if that is all you want to do, then use the current Ubuntu *supported* kernel (e.g. 2.6.12) and the link i sent you earlier as a guide
[07:24] <webwolf_27> linux_n00b_e, flash player 8 for linux isn't released yet
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> sunshine82,  CanoScan LiDE20    complete, plustek, sane-plustek   -
[07:25] <sunshine82> i need to get sane-plustek.5
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> sunshine82,  that looks promising tome.
[07:25] <pawdro> ok ill compile like i did it on theres linux'es
[07:25] <madboar> Hello. I was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction for configuring ssh-agent to be started automatically for my X sessions in ubuntu?
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> :P yep.. whats what i was going to say
[07:26] <sunshine82> dr_willis what does it all mean
[07:26] <flevour> hi all
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> sunshine82,  means the scanner makers are idiots :P and the SANE guys have to have different libraries and tools to access different ones..
[07:26] <sunshine82> dr_willis how do i get this file
[07:27] <smarco> does ubuntu have different branches like stable, unstable, insanely_unstable ?
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> sunshine82,  no clue there.. i dont seeit in SYnaptic
[07:27] <linux_n00b_e> Ok, I'm actually using Kubuntu, but I downloaded the Firefox browser thru adept last night and when i went to Macromedia's site to check some infor for a Flash project I'm working on, the site said that I might not have everything needed to properly view the site.....
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> sunshine82,  may have to check the Ubuntu wiki/forums for the best way
[07:27] <madboar> so .... starting applications on X session startup?
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> madboar,  depends onyour window manager.
[07:27] <Matthew-> simple question... when i click, ls /(directoryname), sometimes the results are more than one screen can display. any way to "scroll up"
[07:27] <Matthew-> and see?
[07:28] <madboar> Dr_Willis: just standard gnome with ubuntu
[07:28] <Matthew-> or, do something like dos dir /p ?
[07:28] <flevour> i am trying to connect with mysql to a server running "mysql  Ver 14.7 Distrib 4.1.11, for unknown-freebsd5.4 (i386)" while the latest update in ubuntu is "mysql  Ver 12.22 Distrib 4.0.24, for pc-linux-gnu (x86_64)" and I get this error: "ERROR 1251: Client does not support authentication protocol requested by server; consider upgrading MySQL client", is there any repository i can add to sources-list to get the latest mysql version?
[07:28] <tonyyarusso> I'm getting an error message while trying to run a 'configure' file out of a tar.gz package, and I'm getting an error that the C compile can not create executables.  I saw this on a previous installation, but don't remember how I fixed it.
[07:28] <tonyyarusso> *C compiler
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> madboar,  gnome has its 'session management' feature thats what you want to look into. depending on the actual program you are wanting to start
[07:28] <Sanne> Matthew-: shift-page up or scrollwheel to scroll up
[07:28] <linux_n00b_e> Did you unpack the tar first?
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> madboar,  start it up.. "save session" there ya go. (in many cases) it will reload from then on.
[07:28] <tonyyarusso> Yes.
[07:28] <madboar> ok, i'm trying to get ssh-agent to start automagically. .xsessions didn;t work.
[07:29] <jc-denton> "The Help system has been disabled completely because we don't yet have a free Tomcat. Working on that. Enjoy."
[07:29] <Sanne> Matthew-: for /p use the pipe and more, like this: ls -l | more
[07:29] <Matthew-> nice sanne. you've saved me hours of additional heartache. :v)
[07:29] <jc-denton> sry i found it
[07:29] <madboar> oh, i'll try starting ssh-agent and see if i can save it.
[07:29] <jc-denton> but just not work is not really disabled
[07:29] <webwolf_27> tonyyarusso, install gcc
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> madboar,  i saw somthing about taht on a faq/forum in the ubuntu forums just the other day I think.
[07:29] <Millenniumgroup> JC Denton :O im honered to finally meet ya... I thought I killed you in Deus Ex 2 but ok
[07:29] <Millenniumgroup> ;)
[07:29] <Millenniumgroup> honored*
[07:29] <tonyyarusso> webwolf_27: It is installed.
[07:29] <madboar> really? hrm. must have missed it. this channel seems a bit busy. I'll go read some more.
[07:30] <madboar> thanks anyway.
[07:30] <Sanne> Matthew-: ot pipe the output through the pager less, like this: "ls | less" then you can scroll with the cursor keys
[07:30] <webwolf_27> tonyyarusso, look for cc
[07:30] <tonyyarusso> webwolf_27: I know gcc worked for this before, but only after I did something, which was a one-time fix.
[07:30] <Sanne> Matthew-: I'm done now ;)
[07:31] <pawdro> can i delete all headers folders from /usr/src when i want to compile kernel from scratch
[07:31] <pawdro> ?
[07:31] <lukus001> I installed a program this morning, but i dont know how to launch it? its installed to /usr/local ?
[07:31] <Matthew-> sanne. too much for me to remember right now. will stick to shift + pageup
[07:31] <Matthew-> :v)
[07:31] <Sanne> Matthew-: ok, that will do for now :)
[07:31] <rambo3> you can uninstall them
[07:31] <webwolf_27> tonyyarusso, what are you trying to compile
[07:31] <Mazoku> pawdro https://wiki.ubuntu.com//KernelHowto i think it`s help you little
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> madboar,  i thinkit was under the 'customization' or 'ssh threads'
[07:32] <Stork> how can i remove a partition?
[07:32] <Stork> i know nothing about this :p
[07:32] <sunshine82> dr_willis =im in the forum and it say this sudo chmod a+rw /proc/bus/usb/*/*
[07:32] <sunshine82>  what do i put in the *
[07:32] <tonyyarusso> webwolf_27: xosd.
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> sunshine82,  for your scanner?
[07:32] <Matthew-> anyone here use ndiswrapper ? from the command line?  it says on their website that i need to have kernal sources present
[07:32] <rambo3> tab your way
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> sunshine82,  :P that will let users access that device.. so.. :P one way to see if it works.
[07:33] <rambo3> oh * =all
[07:33] <rambo3> dont change
[07:33] <Stork> how can i remove a partition?
[07:33] <Stork> remove and delete
[07:33] <Hellfried> i have this problem where my recently hoary -> breezy upgraded hangs spontaneously.  when I start ubuntu in safety mode (or what was it called in grub?) it does *not* crash.  I'm seeing that ACPI services are started after that, could that be it maybe?
[07:33] <Stork> so i have all my hd
[07:33] <deltron> cfdisk
[07:34] <Stork> i want to merge all my partitions back into one plain hd
[07:34] <tonyyarusso> webwolf_27: It says "see config.log for details" if you want me to pastebin that.
[07:34] <webwolf_27> tonyyarusso, ok I don't know that software, did you try configure --help
[07:34] <deltron> oh
[07:34] <lukus001> does anyone know how i can launch an app ive installed? when i dont know the terminal launching name thingy ^^
[07:34] <webwolf_27> tonyyarusso, that would be a good start
[07:34] <rambo3> MAtthew , when in doubt use wiki  search
[07:34] <deltron> lukus001: you can drop to a shell and run it from there
[07:35] <webwolf_27> lukus001, normally the name of the app
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> lukus001,  use synaptic and checkthe package and see what files it did install..
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> lukus001,  thus getting the name to use from there.
[07:35] <meepy> Ubunto for the win!
[07:35] <lukus001> i never used synaptic, and i tried the app name but no sucess
[07:36] <lukus001> maybe i didnt install it properly? but the dolder and everything is there
[07:36] <lukus001> folder * ^^
[07:36] <Sanne> lukus001: which app is this?
[07:36] <tonyyarusso> webwolf_27: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5487
[07:36] <Stork> does anyone have a really simple tutorial to partitioning? i don't understand any of "cfdisk"
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> Stork,  its a rather interesting topic. :P
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> Stork,  you wanting to keep your data on the hd?
[07:37] <Stork> nope
[07:37] <lukus001> sanne, 3delight, a 3d modleing app
[07:37] <Stork> i just want to delete everything (except the bit i'm using) so i have more space
[07:37] <Sanne> lukus001: how did you install it?
[07:37] <sunshine82> dr_willis ok i di sudo xsane and it work but now when i go graphic xsane it does reconise the scanner
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> Stork,  you going to reinstall an os to the drive?
[07:37] <Stork> nope
[07:37] <Stork> i want to keep my files on the current disk/partition/bit
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> Stork,  so you Want to KEEP  your data then? that makes it harder
[07:38] <lukus001> sanne, downloaded, followed instuctions (.install) then "unset DELIGHT" and "source" some file
[07:38] <Stork> on this partition, but not the other one
[07:38] <webwolf_27> tonyyarusso, you don'T appear to have a linker installed
[07:38] <sunshine82> dr_willis how come i can only get it through sudo
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> Stork,  so you want to merge your esisting partition with the OTHER one?
[07:39] <tonyyarusso> webwolf_27: What's that?
[07:39] <lukus001> sanne, but it never said what name you need to use to launch it
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> sunshine82,  no clue. permission issues most likely.
[07:39] <webwolf_27> tonyyarusso, or your missing libtool
[07:39] <ishit> how do i instal a tar.gz file in ubuntu
[07:39] <Stork> Dr_Willis, well, merge that one with this one, same thing i gues
[07:39] <rambo3> Stork isnt there gnome frontend for fdisk . like gparted ?
[07:39] <Sanne> lukus001: ah, it's proprietary. So you would need to guess where the executable got installed. Usually those apps put an executable symlink in /usr/local/bin, is it there, and is it executable? Can you look?
[07:39] <javi_> hi, anyone could said me where can I get a ubuntu kernel with AC patches applied ?
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> Stork,  qtparted, or gparted. from a live cd  - is proberly your best bet..
[07:40] <Stork> alex@ubuntu:~/Programs/azureus$ gparted
[07:40] <Stork> bash: gparted: command not found
[07:40] <tonyyarusso> webwolf_27: That second one might be it.  Missing development libraries seems to ring a bell.
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> Stork,  you SHOULD also backup all your impornt data first
[07:40] <sunshine82> dr_willis ok so hw do i do this  sudo chmod a+rw /proc/bus/usb/*/*
[07:40] <webwolf_27> tonyyarusso, the compiler creates object files, these arn't executable, the linker combines all needed object files to an executable
[07:40] <webwolf_27> tonyyarusso, check libtool first though
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> Stork,  and you dont want to 'merge' them on a system you are runnng from. Hence the live cd.
[07:41] <lukus001> sanne, theres a few file in the bin directory, but should i just try them all? they all have a purple dimon icon btw (=executable?)
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> sunshine82,  what do youmean how?  thats a command you typoe in the shell.
[07:41] <Stork> Dr_Willis, bah, i'll do that later :p
[07:41] <Sanne> lukus001: just a shot in the dark, can you open a terminal, type 3d<tab> and see if it finds the correct name?
[07:41] <sunshine82> dr_willis but it has * what does what do i put there sudo chmod a+rw /proc/bus/usb/*/*
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> sunshine82,  bash fundamentals.. a * is a wildcard.
[07:42] <tonyyarusso> webwolf_27: That fixed the first problem, now I got something else.
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> sunshine82,  that is changeing permissions on everything in those dirs
[07:42] <lukus001> sanne, bah displayed error with 3d<tab>
[07:42] <lukus001> bash*
[07:42] <webwolf_27> tonyyarusso, ok ... what something else
[07:42] <tonyyarusso> webwolf_27: configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[07:42] <sunshine82> dr_willis so i dont need to change them
[07:42] <ishit> if i hav a tar.gz installation file. how do i instal it in linux
[07:42] <lukus001> sanne, i think i probabily didnt install it properly, i'll start from the begining again, thanks for the help =)
[07:42] <ishit> in ubuntu
[07:43] <Sanne> lukus001: ok, good luck :)
[07:43] <webwolf_27> tonyyarusso, did you compile g++ by hand?
[07:43] <NoUse> ishit what program is this?
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> sunshine82,  i dont know.. you said the forum said to change them.    good luck.. worktime for me.
[07:43] <ishit> gyach
[07:43] <tonyyarusso> webwolf_27: Nope.  apt-get gcc was all I did.
[07:44] <webwolf_27> tonyyarusso, run locate cpp
[07:44] <ishit> oops sorry its tar.bz
[07:44] <NoUse> ishit you know that gaim can connect to yahoo right?
[07:44] <rambo3> you mean g++
[07:44] <ishit> ya but gyach has better features
[07:44] <tonyyarusso> webwolf_27: Am I looking for anything particular in this output?
[07:45] <webwolf_27> tonyyarusso, libstdc++ will need to be installed, as will g++
[07:45] <webwolf_27> rambo3, yes thats even better
[07:45] <NoUse> ishit unpack the file and ready the INSTALL snd/or README file
[07:45] <tonyyarusso> webwolf_27: I do see a /usr/bin/cpp as well as cpp-4.0, btw.
[07:45] <ishit> wats the command plz
[07:46] <cdubya> is there a gui for gpg?
[07:46] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, you ever get that samba stuff worked out?
[07:46] <NoUse> ishit tar jxvf file.tar.bz
[07:46] <webwolf_27> cdubya, look at kgpg
[07:46] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: No, sadly.
[07:46] <HighHopes> Hello ! Is it possible to have root access in Ubuntu? .. su, not sudo
[07:46] <rambo3> !wiki
[07:46] <pawdro> i've which processor type i should choose during compiling a kernel? ive got 1.2 GHz P3
[07:47] <cdubya> webwolf_27, k, used that before.....thanks
[07:47] <Exxcaliber> HighHopes, yeah, just do sudo su
[07:47] <Exxcaliber> :P
[07:47] <tonyyarusso> webwolf_27: Couldn't find package libstdc
[07:47] <HighHopes> Exxcaliber, thanks!
[07:47] <Exxcaliber> HighHopes, np
[07:47] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, sorry I missed you, I checked in very briefly Sat, but had to go out of town for a bit and never got a chance to get back to it....
[07:47] <webwolf_27> tonyyarusso, then run apt-get install libstdc++
[07:48] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, if you still want to give it a shot, I'll probably be on quite awhile later tonight....I'm CST.
[07:48] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: np.  I ended up doing a bunch of other system stuff to in the meantime.
[07:48] <tonyyarusso> dubya: We could do that.
[07:48] <ishit> its givin an error
[07:48] <tonyyarusso> webwolf_27: That's exactly what I did; I don't know why the ++ was dropped.
[07:49] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, it will realistically probably be 11pm CST before I have any time tonight reasonably speaking....I don't get out of class until 9:30pm and have a drive to go home in the snow this evening....
[07:49] <cdubya> but I'll be happy to give it a shot if you want
[07:49] <webwolf_27> tonyyarusso, nor do I, thats odd. run apt-cache search libstdc
[07:49] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: Sure.
[07:49] <sunshine82> how do i do this command http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5488
[07:50] <webwolf_27> pawdro, i586 is a safe bet
[07:51] <tonyyarusso> webwolf_27: libstdc++6 maybe?
[07:51] <webwolf_27> tonyyarusso, yep
[07:51] <sunshine82> ive done sudo chmod a+rw /proc/bus/usb/*/*
[07:51] <pawdro> ok
[07:51] <sunshine82> but how do i do the rest
[07:51] <Jowi> pawdro: for P3 you should choose "Pentium-III/Celeron(Coppermine)/Pentium-III Xeon) probably.
[07:52] <webwolf_27> tonyyarusso, doh!! thats right your doing a kernel, choose pentium -III
[07:52] <webwolf_27> tonyyarusso, sorry wrong person
[07:52] <Jowi> pawdro: webwolf_27 was right that 586 is a safe bet though if you're unsure :)
[07:53] <webwolf_27> pawdro, doh!! thats right your doing a kernel, choose pentium-III
[07:53] <rambo3> is P3 =686
[07:53] <bshumate> yes
[07:54] <webwolf_27> Jowi, I completely forgot he was configuring a kernel
[07:54] <bshumate> p3 == celeron, p3, etc...
[07:54] <mindlace> Hi! I need kernel 2.6.13 or later to get support for my raid card. Is my current best bet following these directions? http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/2.6.14_Vanilla
[07:54] <webwolf_27> mindlace, apt-cache search kernel and select the newest
[07:54] <Jowi> webwolf_27: hehe, can happen
[07:54] <mindlace> (talk about living dangerously ... I bought all this hardware, and it only got linux support just now)
[07:55] <mindlace> webwolf_27: with all the ubuntu deb lines uncommented, the latest I get is 2.6.12
[07:55] <webwolf_27> Jowi, yeah I'm giving support for 2 distro's and trying to monitor #c++
[07:55] <tonyyarusso> webwolf_27: Okay, now we have WARNING: *** GTK+ >= 1.2.2 not found ***,  error: *** X11 not threadsafe ***.
[07:56] <pawdro> thx all
[07:56] <webwolf_27> tonyyarusso, you will need to install GTK+ headers
[07:56] <cdubya> when I generate a key pair in kgpg, what size should I use?
[07:56] <webwolf_27> mindlace, then you will have to install from the kernel.org sources
[07:57] <tonyyarusso> webwolf_27: A package search for gtk+ had huge results; would you happen to know the package name (or just more of it)?
[07:57] <ishit>  can i instal an rpm package in ubuntu
[07:57] <webwolf_27> cdubya, the maximum is safe
[07:57] <exedra> hello everybody... is there anyone who can help me with grub?
[07:57] <webwolf_27> tonyyarusso, sorry not for ubuntu
[07:57] <Agrajag> ishit: yes, but it's not a good idea
[07:57] <flevour> my problem put in a simplier way would be: is there a repository i can get the most recent packages from? like mysql version 14.7
[07:57] <rambo3> if its easy grub question
[07:57] <tonyyarusso> exedra: Maybe.  What are you doing?
[07:57] <Jowi> ishit: it "should" be possible, but not recommended. Think the prog is called "alien"
[07:57] <tonyyarusso> webwolf_27: All right, I'll look through them.
[07:58] <exedra> tony: i've read all howtos, man grub, info grub
[07:58] <ishit> well there r no debians available for gyach
[07:58] <webwolf_27> tonyyarusso, probably libgtk?????
[07:58] <exedra> tony: problem is this... i can't boot from my HDD, but if use grub floppy it works great
[07:58] <ishit> do u kno where i can find it
[07:58] <mindlace> ok, i'll just follow those directions and pray
[07:58] <exedra> rambo: it could be simple
[07:58] <HighHopes> what is the Command Line tool to start, stop and restart services?
[07:58] <exedra> tony: reinstalling grub after i boot from floppy didn't help
[07:59] <webwolf_27> mindlace, make sure ext3 is compiled in
[07:59] <flevour> HighHopes: you can do that manuall /etc/init.d/<service_name> <comand> where comand is start|stop etc
[07:59] <rambo3> with sudo grub-install hd0 or hda  ?
[07:59] <exedra> tony: I am using HPT370 and the HDD are in /dev/hde and /dev/hdg... and / (root) is mounted to /dev/hde1
[07:59] <tonyyarusso> webwolf_27: Found something.  That plus a version number.
[08:00] <webwolf_27> tonyyarusso, good
[08:00] <HighHopes> flevour, thanks!
[08:00] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: if you're compiling an app maybe you need libgtk-1.2-dev
[08:00] <exedra> rambo: it ried grub-install /dev/hde, also grub-install '(hd0)' also run grub and do setup (hd0) from the grub command line, while of them works great i still can't boot from HDD
[08:00] <Stork> i have a video which is a bit messed up: the sound comes about 2 seconds after the images itself. is it possible to fix this?
[08:01] <tonyyarusso> exedra: You might need to manually add the hard drive to the grub menu if it's not registering.  Can you get to a Grub menu screen during boot, but then not see anything, or does nothing happen at all?
[08:01] <ubun-newbie> how do i updtate ubuntu kernel
[08:01] <webwolf_27> exedra, hd0 is not /dev/hde
[08:01] <ast> Hi
[08:01] <dooglus> Stork: if you use mplayer-nogui, you can use the + and - keys to adjust the sound-video offset as you watch
[08:01] <rambo3> exedra any error messages or just kernel panic, you should post your menu.lst
[08:01] <flevour> is there any repository i can grab the latest (meaning the most recent) version of packages (specifically mysql) from?
[08:02] <ast> Are the Ubuntu Forums down ???
[08:02] <exedra> web: yes it is for me :) hda is a DVD reader.. hdc is a dvd burner... my hdd is on hde and hdg
[08:02] <Jowi> ast: they've been up and down all day
[08:02] <bshumate> ubun-newbie: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//KernelHowto
[08:02] <exedra> rambo: my menu.lst works great if i boot from floppy
[08:02] <ast> Jowi: Any idea why ?
[08:02] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: I found a 2.0 for the first package, would that mean I need libgtk-2.0-dev instead?  (If I find sucha thing...)
[08:02] <Jowi> ast: nope
[08:02] <exedra> tony: when i install ubuntu fresh it always failed on stage2
[08:02] <Stork> dooglus, awesome
[08:02] <ast> Jowi: ok, thx
[08:02] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: if you want to compile for gtk2 yes, but you said the error was for gtk1.2
[08:03] <dooglus> Stork: it might work the same in the gui versions, but I don't use them so I don't know
[08:03] <webwolf_27> ok time for me to put the kids to bed. night folks
[08:03] <exedra> tony: i just did a fdisk/mbr but now it is looking for CDROM even when my BIOS setting was asking it to boot from my HDD
[08:03] <kyncani> exedra: to know for sure (hd0) is /dev/hde : type sudo grub, then (in grub)  find /one/file/on/the/filesystem. This will tell you the grub name of the disk
[08:03] <ubun-newbie> so i can not do get-update kernel
[08:03] <Stork> dooglus, i'll try it then
[08:03] <webwolf_27> tonyyarusso, that should be safe to use
[08:03] <Stork> dooglus, just out of interest, how can you watch a video without gui?
[08:04] <webwolf_27> night folks
[08:04] <exedra> kync: yeah when i get grub command prompt from floppy boot... i can do the command completion to boot kernel manually
[08:04] <exedra> web: good night
[08:04] <Agrajag> Stork: mplayer with the svgalib plugin, or aalib
[08:04] <cdubya> good night, webwolf
[08:04] <ubun-newbie> so i can not do get-update kernel
[08:04] <dooglus> Stork: I run "mplayer <video-file>" and it plays the video file.  Why would I need a gui?
[08:04] <Jowi> ubun-newbie: 1. start synaptic, look for the kernel image you want and install it. It will automatically be added to your grub start menu or 2. download the sources for the kernel and configure and compile your own.
[08:04] <kyncani> exedra: at what point do you see what error message ? Do you get the grub menu on boot ?
[08:05] <andril> hello all
[08:05] <ubun-newbie> so updtate-kernel will not work
[08:05] <ubun-newbie> apt-get update kernel
[08:05] <bshumate> ubun-newbie apt-get update will update it
[08:05] <Jowi> ubun-newbie: no, since "kernel" is not a package.
[08:05] <andril> anyone know the command to chek if my Nvidia drivers are installed properly?
[08:05] <exedra> kync: booting from HDD after installing ubuntu failed on stage2... booting from HDD after i did fdisk/mbr from a dos boot disk just failed completely, even after i can boot using grub floppy and reinstall grub
[08:06] <dooglus> ubun-newbie: it will update automatically, like the other packages.  it's called "linux", not "kernel"
[08:06] <ubun-newbie> well when the ubuntu starts it shows nvidia drivers silly
[08:06] <tonyyarusso> exedra: I suppose it would do that if it wasn't able to find the hd, if the CDROM is the second priority boot device.
[08:06] <exedra> kync: when i boot using GRUB floppy... it tells me hd0 is /dev/hde
[08:07] <exedra> tony: i specified only HDD and floppy as boot device and yet it still asked for CDROM.. weird eh?
[08:07] <tonyyarusso> exedra: What kind of output does fdisk tell you?
[08:07] <madboar> what crime are the A-Team accused of commiting?
[08:07] <Jowi> andril: you can test it. "glxinfo | grep vendor" should say Nvidia. "glxinfo | grep direct" should tell you if DRI is enabled.
[08:07] <tonyyarusso> exedra: That is weird.
[08:07] <ubun-newbie>  A-Team is known for hijacking
[08:07] <rambo3> you can allways open sudo gedit  /boot/grub/menu.lst and compare it with /media/floppy/boot/men.lst or whaterver it is
[08:07] <exedra> tony: oh... yeah i forgot to run fdisk yet...
[08:08] <exedra> tony: gimme a sec i am booting up the desktop again... takes awhile
[08:08] <`Evil> hello
[08:08] <madboar> decker is hunting them for hijacking?
[08:08] <ubun-newbie> hi evil
[08:08] <yapyccky> hello everyone..i've a "big" problem...just now i understood my sound card is not working on my ubuntu
[08:08] <tonyyarusso> exedra: That might clue you in if you've been using the wrong hd? device.
[08:08] <andril> Jowi: thansk I get errors
[08:08] <yapyccky> can someone help me in setting it up?
[08:08] <`Evil> can someone help about installing a wifi USB Key please?
[08:08] <exedra> rambo: i did a cp /boot/grub/menu.lst to /floppy/boot/grub/menu.lst so they are identical
[08:08] <tonyyarusso> I got my compilation issue fixed, btw.
[08:08] <ubun-newbie> oh really even if your soundcard works you can not download free mp3 songs
[08:08] <`Evil> i have the trendnet TEW-424UB
[08:08] <bullitt> I'm getting a msg when I run a script I just wrote.  this is the line is has a problem with: export EPSXE='/usr/local/games/epsxe'  and the error I get is 'usr/local/games/epsxe' is not a valid identifier.  the directory does exist, and the scripts permission is 777
[08:09] <Jowi> andril: did you follow the nvidia guidelines ?
[08:09] <Jowi> !nvidia
[08:09] <ubotu> I guess nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[08:09] <ubun-newbie> what games are on ubuntu linux and how i install them
[08:09] <ubun-newbie> are there any flight games with good graphic design
[08:09] <Mabus06> there are tons of games
[08:09] <bullitt> orbiter
[08:09] <andril> Jowi: I actually used Automatix script
[08:09] <rambo3> first fix your video drivers then ask for games
[08:09] <andril> !nvidia
[08:09] <ubotu> from memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[08:10] <Jowi> andril: ah, haven't tested automatix myself.
[08:10] <kyncani> exedra: failed on stage 2 ? I would narrow the search and see at what point it is failing with the error message. When you got that, you can try to fix it or do the boot sequence yourself (not for the faint of heart) giving the linux kernel the argument init=/bin/bash (in grub, with the edit command line feature).
[08:10] <ubun-newbie> i have none problems with nvidia drivers sir
[08:10] <tonyyarusso> Any ideas why I would only be able to burn CDs as root?  (This happened in my last installation; I haven't tried this one yet.)
[08:10] <Jowi> ubun-newbie: nope, but andril has :)
[08:11] <exedra> kync: actually i did the boot sequence manually from grub shell
[08:11] <madboar> sooo
[08:11] <madboar> the A Team
[08:11] <madboar> what crime? :)
[08:11] <madboar> anyone know?
[08:11] <rambo3> http://enemy-territory.4players.de:1041/modules.php?name=files ,amrecis army , and lot more use google
[08:11] <andril> Jowi: i tried this one http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Install_Nvidia_driver
[08:12] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: maybe, what does "ls -la /dev/cdrom" give you?
[08:12] <kyncani> exedra: what do you mean ? When you issue the grub commands yourself it works but when grub executes them from the config file, it does not work ??
[08:12] <ubuntu_> hi
[08:12] <ubuntu_> whats up ?
[08:12] <ubuntu_> ubuntu is cool "_
[08:12] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 4 2005-12-07 11:43 /dev/cdrom -> scd0
[08:12] <ubuntu_> bye bye
[08:12] <exedra> kync: errr... when booting from HDD it just filed on stage 2... but if i used grub floppy i can do all grub commands to boot to full OS
[08:13] <Jowi> andril: maybe you need to run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" after you installed the driver like that
[08:13] <andril> ubun-newbie: how did you install your nvidia drivers?
[08:13] <exedra> kync: which means right now i am booting my desktop with a floppy to chain back to the HDD
[08:13] <ubun-newbie> it autodected
[08:13] <ubun-newbie> while installin
[08:13] <rambo3> well you didnt do anything then
[08:13] <chris_18888> hi does anyone know the location to the Alsa config file that I can change the default card?
[08:14] <AceMilo> hi i have a question about firefox
[08:14] <kyncani> exedra: well, when you boot from hdd, at grub menu, you can check that grub is getting the config file right by editing the grub entry. Must be either a typo in the config file or grub is not getting the correct menu.lst
[08:14] <AceMilo> 5.10 comse with 1.07 version of firefox but 1.5 is the newest
[08:14] <bshumate> bullitt: what is the shebang in the script?  (the first line)
[08:14] <AceMilo> how do i update it?
[08:14] <bullitt> !#bin/bash
[08:14] <ubotu> bullitt: I give up, what is it?
[08:14] <daje> could anyone give me a hand setting up a printer attached to an airport please?
[08:15] <bullitt> oops #!/bin/bash
[08:15] <halibut> I have 1 folder, 2 files, how can I create a shell script to zip all three up in to myextension.zip, rename to myextension.xpi, then move it to /var/www/    (ie: a shell script to package a firefox extension and then host it)
[08:15] <ubun-newbie> well my sound works my nvidia i know works
[08:15] <exedra> kync: i double checked it is onthing to do with menu.lst... from HDD it just never gets to the menu like it can't find where it is
[08:15] <exedra> kync: that's why i am stumped
[08:16] <varsendagger> halibut, have you ever created a script?
[08:16] <kyncani> exedra: if it's a typo, chances are you won't see it yourself. So either narrow the problem by getting a more precise error message from the boot sequence, or get someone else to double-check the config file .. sometimes, you can check the same file ten times when someone else will find the error at first glance ...
[08:16] <exedra> kync: i copied the menu.lst to floppy (cuz i got sick of typing the grub commands on my grub floppy when i boot) and it works great
[08:16] <halibut> varsendagger, yes, but only a few lines heh
[08:16] <Matthew-> is it possible to use apt-get for a package, but specify that i want the one on the cd?
[08:16] <Matthew-> rather than trying to go online?
[08:16] <halibut> #!/bin/sh  I know I start with this
[08:17] <kyncani> exedra: if it cannot get to the grub menu with hdd boot, i'd say it's a bios problem ..
[08:17] <halibut> then tar command? or zip?
[08:17] <exedra> kync: hmmm maybe you are right
[08:17] <evan_> how do i make aptget to work?
[08:17] <evan_> cause it says
[08:17] <varsendagger> --- i would try to use tar
[08:17] <evan_> E: Couldn't find package kernel-source-2.x.y
[08:17] <bullitt> evan_; sudo apt-get update
[08:17] <azertyuuu> can i play mp3 with the newest Amarok
[08:17] <exedra> kync: becuz I've tried everything else...
[08:17] <kyncani> exedra: or a disk jumper
[08:18] <exedra> kync: disk jumper?
[08:18] <jonathan_> How do you get 3D to work with ATI on the AMD64 version of 5.10?
[08:18] <kyncani> exedra: yeah .. don't know exactly in english
[08:18] <tomz> is xfingerd unremoveable?
[08:18] <evan_> it still says it cant find it
[08:18] <varsendagger> evan_, ty to apt-cache search for the package yoou want to download
[08:18] <bshumate> bullit:  try replacing the text : export EPSXE='/usr/local/games/epsxe'  with : EPSXE=/usr/local/games/epsxe; export EPSXE
[08:18] <bshumate> bullitt: and see if it works that way
[08:18] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: hmmmm, in /etc/fstab; in the line with the cdrom, does it say "user" in there?
[08:18] <AceMilo> 5.10 comse with 1.07 version of firefox but 1.5 is the newest, how do you update it?
[08:18] <exedra> kync: the only unusual thing about my desktop is it has 2 IDE controller.. the regular one who take hda, hdb, hdc and hdd.... and the HPT370 who takes hde, hdf, hdg and hdh
[08:18] <kyncani> exedra: the little thingies that connect other thingies on the disk to tell him if he is a ide master or slave .. :)
[08:19] <ck> !backports
[08:19] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, backports is Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[08:19] <Matthew-> n/m i think it's doing it
[08:19] <kyncani> exedra: well, try to move the disk on the first controller ?
[08:19] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: Yes.
[08:19] <ck> hmm...a pm would have worked ;)
[08:19] <exedra> kync: LOL... it works on the regular IDE... but this machine is old.. the regular IDE is running ATA33 and the HPT370 is running ATA100 :)
[08:20] <exedra> kync: and the HDD is ATA100
[08:20] <evan_> here it says
[08:20] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: Keep in mind, it's possible this was just something I had messed up previously, so my current system might not have the problem, I'm just trying to figure out what it might have been just in case.
[08:20] <evan_> here http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html
[08:20] <madboar> oi, what crime are the a team accused of, but did not commit.
[08:20] <madboar> this is vital.
[08:20] <evan_> it says to type
[08:20] <popey> here's a thing..
[08:20] <exedra> kync: bloody stupid BIOS i guess :)
[08:20] <evan_> apt-get install kernel-source-2.x.y
[08:20] <kyncani> exedra: here, i have a bios problem : i cannot boot if i have two usb disks connected on my usb hub ... but i can connect them as soon as i get the grub menu ! :)
[08:20] <popey> i have bought a DVB-T card which doesn't appear to work in breezy
[08:21] <popey> do I a) download the kernel source and go through the pain of that and nvidia and ipw2200 stuff
[08:21] <kyncani> exedra: blooded stupid bioses :)
[08:21] <popey> or do i b) use the kernel from dapper?
[08:21] <evan_> it there a howto for drivers for a ati adeon 2600se?
[08:21] <jonathan_> 3D under AMD64 5.10 w/ fglrx (ATI)--how?
[08:21] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: well, so you should check if it works or not first since if you do not have the problem now it will be nearly impossible to see what was wrong back then...
[08:21] <madboar> c) install XP
[08:21] <exedra> kync: I'd find away to trick the BIOS.. thakns for your assistance
[08:21] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: Very true.  Just wondering if anyone had seen something similar.
[08:22] <crypticreign[w] > can anyone get xsnow to work?
[08:22] <jesse_> is it neccesary to install the complete ubuntu base system on a partition on my second hard drive (dual boot) hoary system?
[08:22] <exedra> tony, and others: thanks
[08:22] <Jowi> !tell popey about wireless
[08:22] <tonyyarusso> Is Opera available through apt?
[08:22] <kyncani> exedra: np :)
[08:22] <evan_> it there a howto for drivers for a ati adeon 2600se?
[08:22] <evan_> how to install them
[08:22] <popey> wireless isn't the problem
[08:22] <popey> it's the dvb card
[08:22] <Jowi> oh
[08:22] <varsendagger> evan_,  what happens when you type apt-cache search kernel-source
[08:22] <madboar> c) install XP
[08:22] <crimsun> popey: there're arguments for both, but keep in mind that both are 1) unsupported; 2) will present massive headaches
[08:22] <evan_> radeon
[08:22] <deltron> !ati
[08:22] <ubotu> ati is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[08:22] <popey> so i have a device that doesn't work
[08:23] <jonathan_> ubotu, just so you know that guide does not work for AMD64 users
[08:23] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, jonathan_
[08:23] <crimsun> popey: if you compile ieee80211+ipw2200 on breezy, it won't work. If you use the dapper kernel, it may not boot. You lose either way.
[08:23] <flame-boy> how I remove the terminal when I open the amsn ?
[08:23] <St^Anger^19m> !mount
[08:23] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[08:23] <popey> heh
[08:23] <bullitt> bshumate, allright it stopped hanging on that one, but now it says no such file or directory for  line 5 which is cd $EPSXE
[08:23] <popey> but at least the dapper kernel will get better
[08:24] <jonathan_> basic mount command for a windows drive:  sudo mount -t ntfs -o ro,umask=0222 /dev/device /mountpoint
[08:24] <St^Anger^19m> i just installed ubuntu on VMware :)
[08:24] <bshumate> bullitt: add a line before line five :  echo $EPSXE
[08:24] <tonyyarusso> !windowsdrives
[08:24] <ubotu> somebody said windowsdrives was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[08:25] <flame-boy> Well, I am opening amsn... and the terminal comes together.  When I latch the terminal, amsn closes simultaneously.  What I make this not to happen?
[08:25] <bshumate> bullitt: should come back of course, with : /usr/local/games/epsxe
[08:25] <AceMilo> 5.10 comse with 1.07 version of firefox but 1.5 is the newest, how do you update it?
[08:25] <varsendagger> evan_, what is happening?
[08:25] <bshumate> bullitt : does it?
[08:25] <tonyyarusso> AceMilo: We're still waiting on the Breezy build of 1.5.
[08:25] <Gnimsh> hello everyone
[08:25] <AceMilo> so it cant be installed?
[08:25] <Jowi> hello Gnimsh
[08:26] <lwizardl> hi
[08:26] <AceMilo> ok how about this
[08:26] <Gnimsh> I'm having a problem w/ ubuntu, and I've only just installed it
[08:26] <flame-boy> Well, I am opening amsn... and the terminal comes together.  When I latch the terminal, amsn closes simultaneously.  What I make this not to happen?
[08:26] <The_Vox> AceMilo: yes, in a per-user basis it can...get the tarball from firefox's site and install from that in your ~/
[08:26] <lwizardl> can someone help me with dvd playback
[08:26] <Gnimsh> I don't think it likes my video card, I don't get an actual display or anything just a bunch of green lines
[08:26] <tonyyarusso> AceMilo: If you want you can still get it from http://www.getfirefox.com, but most people are content to wait.
[08:26] <AceMilo> the_vox how?
[08:26] <AceMilo> im new to this
[08:26] <Jowi> !tell lwizardl about dvd
[08:26] <Gnimsh> I have a driver but have no idea how to install it.
[08:26] <AceMilo> i played with linux before but not this much
[08:26] <varsendagger> lwizardl, what is up?
[08:27] <eli_d> vlc media player does wonders for my machine and dvd playback
[08:27] <bullitt> bshumate hahahaa oh this is the skinny.  I had 'usr/local...' so I changed it to '/usr/local...'
[08:27] <Jowi> Gnimsh: what card have you got?
[08:27] <St^Anger^19m> how can i know which partitions are my windows partitions?
[08:27] <lwizardl> ok i'm using the ubuntu wiki to figure out how to play dvds and i'm getting no decoder found errors whats the fix
[08:27] <The_Vox> AceMilo: you download the tarball from getfirefox.com and untar it, then run the installer as user (without using sudo) and it'll prompt you to install in your home instead of system-wide.
[08:27] <flame-boy> Well, I am opening amsn... and the terminal comes together.  When I latch the terminal, amsn closes simultaneously.  What I make this not to happen?
[08:27] <bshumate> bullitt: heh, so you are g2g then?
[08:27] <AceMilo> how do i change permissions to view my ntfs partitions?
[08:27] <Gnimsh> Jowi: nvidia geforce 6600 GT
[08:27] <jgrieves> hmm so my initrd is no longer mounting /dev
[08:27] <Jowi> !nvidia
[08:27] <ubotu> from memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[08:27] <The_Vox> AceMilo: then just run it from where it installs it instead of using the one on your menu, until 1.5 comes to breezy
[08:27] <Agrajag> The_Vox: 1.5 will never come to breezy
[08:28] <bullitt> bshumate well I installed a different library than the one in the tutorial, so now I have to copy it over, thanks for the assistance
[08:28] <Jowi> Gnimsh: check the links that ubotu just spat out
[08:28] <The_Vox> Agrajag: ok, breezy-backports :)
[08:28] <fdr> hello! I fail to understand how to use launchpad... is there any guide or tutorial available for it, please? Thank you!
[08:28] <bullitt> i'll post when I get it up
[08:28] <tonyyarusso> AceMilo: Try changing the umask in /etc/fstab.
[08:28] <bshumate> bullitt: ain't no thang...glad to help-  need anything else, just pm me
[08:28] <jgrieves> how can i bring intrd to mount /dev
[08:28] <Jowi> lwizardl: did you install libdvdcss2?
[08:28] <jgrieves> otherwis eit wont rount root file system /dev/sda1
[08:28] <AceMilo> fstab
[08:28] <AceMilo> i dont dont see that
[08:28] <AceMilo> oh wait i do
[08:29] <Gnimsh> great! thanks jowi
[08:29] <AceMilo> ok now what the hells a umask?
[08:29] <flame-boy> AceMilo, sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[08:29] <lwizardl> Jowi: don't think so didn't list that on the page
[08:29] <Gnimsh> now I have to get back to homework but I will look at that more when I get back to my room
[08:29] <Jowi> !libdvdcss2
[08:29] <ubotu> Jowi: Syntax error in line 1
[08:29] <flame-boy> AceMilo, or gedit /etc/fstab
[08:29] <owner989> i had no luck getting a linksys wireless G usb adapter to work on ubuntu
[08:29] <Jowi> +!libdvdcss2
[08:30] <Jowi> !+libdvdcss2
[08:30] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Jowi
[08:30] <lwizardl> libdvdcss2 is already the newest version.
[08:30] <Jowi> where did that link go?
[08:30] <tonyyarusso> AceMilo: I believe you just need to edit the string defaults to defaults,umask=000 on the line for the drive in question.
[08:30] <AceMilo> ok now i see the drives listed
[08:30] <lwizardl> so yes i have it
[08:30] <andril> Thanks all :)
[08:30] <Gnimsh> Jowi one thing?
[08:30] <Gnimsh> Can I do either of these w/o a GUI? Open either Synaptic or Kynaptic
[08:31] <flame-boy> AceMilo, you're welcome ;P
[08:31] <Jowi> lwizardl: great. well, have you installed the libdvdplay etc?
[08:31] <AceMilo> do you need to restart?
[08:31] <AceMilo> i changed it to defaults,umask=000 and it still says no permission
[08:31] <tonyyarusso> AceMilo: You could use other numbers there if you want; 000 allow full permissions for everyone.  The numbers for umask are just the opposite for the file permissions ones, so umask=000 equates to perm.s of 777.
[08:31] <McScruff> Hi, is there a way to get videos in sync in firefox
[08:31] <rambo3> reboot
[08:31] <lwizardl> E: Couldn't find package libdvdplay
[08:31] <Jowi> Gnimsh: nope. you need a gui for that. from the command prompt you can use either apt-get or aptitude.
[08:32] <tonyyarusso> AceMilo: You'll have to umount and mount it again.
[08:32] <Agrajag> AceMilo: unmount it, and mount it again
[08:32] <Gnimsh> !apt-get
[08:32] <ubotu> apt-get is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/
[08:32] <AceMilo> grrr
[08:32] <Jowi> lwizardl: it is called libdvdplay0
[08:32] <owner989> mcscruff it helped when i changed output to alsa
[08:32] <Gnimsh> boy that bot is great
[08:32] <owner989> in mplayer plugin
[08:32] <AceMilo> lets see if i can figure that out
[08:32] <Jowi> lwizardl: "apt-cache search --names-only dvd" will give you a list
[08:32] <lwizardl> libdvdplay0 is already the newest version.
[08:32] <AceMilo> how do you unmount?
[08:32] <Gnimsh> anyone here used mandriva linux?
[08:32] <Agrajag> AceMilo: umount <mountpoint>
[08:32] <fishhead> turn on fox news, etc shots fired on airline
[08:33] <AceMilo> command not found
[08:33] <rambo3> thats offtopic
[08:33] <Jowi> lwizardl: for example gstreamer0.8-dvd is what you want if you want to play dvd from totem
[08:33] <Agrajag> AceMilo: like hell
[08:33] <tonyyarusso> AceMilo: Make sure to say umount not unmount.
[08:33] <fishhead> RAMBO3 yeah well screw it for once, this is serious
[08:33] <AceMilo> doh
[08:33] <lwizardl> what about in kaffine
[08:33] <tonyyarusso> AceMilo: Very common mistake.
[08:33] <Jowi> lwizardl: don't know. not using kde here
[08:33] <AceMilo> there we go
[08:33] <AceMilo> thx
[08:34] <AceMilo> now lets mount
[08:34] <lwizardl> http://pastebin.com/452878
[08:34] <tonyyarusso> AceMilo: Same process, mount <mountpoint>.
[08:34] <AceMilo> holy crap
[08:34] <AceMilo> it works :)
[08:34] <AceMilo> thx
[08:34] <AceMilo> ok now
[08:34] <tonyyarusso> AceMilo: Isn't it nice when things do that?
[08:34] <AceMilo> say i dl a tar.gz, uncompress etc
[08:34] <AceMilo> and its not source
[08:34] <AceMilo> how do i install it?
[08:35] <AceMilo> got one more burning question after this
[08:35] <Jowi> lwizardl: if you are using kde you can try in #kubuntu
[08:35] <tonyyarusso> Does it have anything called configure, installer, or the like in it?
[08:35] <AceMilo> whats an installer look like in linux?
[08:35] <lwizardl> Jowi: tried that seem to get more help with it in here
[08:36] <tonyyarusso> AceMilo: They would usually be named installer, install, or something obvious.  Otherwise, it doesn't really look any different.
[08:36] <Gnimsh> !run file
[08:36] <ubotu> Gnimsh: I haven't a clue
[08:36] <AceMilo> negative
[08:36] <kossu_Man> Question: How big should a hard-drive/partion be to run Ubuntu with no efficency penalty?
[08:36] <AceMilo> anyway lets forget that for nwo
[08:36] <Gnimsh> !.run
[08:36] <ubotu> Gnimsh: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[08:36] <chris__> hey guys, how do you install azureus in breezy? its not in the repos.
[08:36] <AceMilo> heres a real problem i have
[08:36] <AceMilo> im trying to install glib 1.2.10 i believe
[08:36] <AceMilo> i configure it fine
[08:36] <owner989> dl it from azuereus webpage chris
[08:36] <AceMilo> then i go to make
[08:36] <AceMilo> it says a bunch of errors and wont make
[08:36] <Jowi> lwizardl: well, sorry i can not help you with kaffeine
[08:37] <varsendagger> lwizardl, hey have you tried mplayer?
[08:37] <chris__> i downloaded it from their webpage and unpacked it
[08:37] <chris__> now what?
[08:37] <owner989> it should work from the folder
[08:37] <owner989> its java
[08:37] <chris__> i can run it when i cd to the azureus director and run azureus
[08:37] <indymedia> is there a software to configure sound card for ubuntu
[08:37] <indymedia> ?
[08:37] <tonyyarusso> AceMilo: I don't think I can help you there.
[08:37] <owner989> as long as you have java installed chris
[08:37] <fantasai> Networking is totally broken on my system. What do I do?
[08:37] <lwizardl> varsendagger: no
[08:37] <AceMilo> want me to get the errors for you?
[08:38] <varsendagger> just a sec
[08:38] <owner989> fantasai post your issue here
[08:38] <Jowi> fantasai: what's the problem?
[08:38] <tonyyarusso> AceMilo: Doesn't that come as a package though so you wouldn't have to?
[08:38] <AceMilo> dont see it listed
[08:38] <chris__> but if i want to make a shortcut on the desktop to it, what command would i enter?
[08:38] <fantasai> Jowi: It doesn't find a connection most of the time
[08:38] <GURU500> siema ll
[08:38] <GURU500> all
[08:38] <fantasai> Jowi: sometimes going into standby and coming back fixes it
[08:38] <amans> is there a software to configure sound card for ubuntu ?
[08:38] <GURU500> hi
[08:38] <fantasai> Jowi: sometimes I can restart my computer, and that'll work when standby doesn't
[08:38] <GURU500> i got problem
[08:38] <fantasai> Jowi: but right now
[08:38] <GURU500> with ubuntu
[08:38] <GURU500> :P
[08:38] <fantasai> Jow: it's not working at all
[08:38] <fantasai> Jowi: neither wireless nor ethernet
[08:39] <fantasai> Jowi: It works in Windows just fine though
[08:39] <GURU500> ANY wants help me ?
[08:39] <fantasai> Jowi: so it's not a problem with either the network or my hardware
[08:39] <AceMilo> im in the package manager
[08:39] <bigozs> hia
[08:39] <Jowi> fantasai: start from the beginning and be specific. how do you connect? wireless, cable, to a router, without a router, adsl-modem, pppoe...?
[08:39] <amans> is there a software to configure sound card for ubuntu ?
[08:39] <AceMilo> glib-doc is there
[08:39] <AceMilo> not glib
[08:39] <amans> is there a software to configure sound card for ubuntu ?
[08:39] <fantasai> Jowi: wireless and ethernet to a LAN
[08:39] <gnomefreak> GURU500,  please state your issue and someone will help you if they know the answer
[08:39] <Kyral> amans: it should be done
[08:40] <owner989> ubuntu should include alsaconf
[08:40] <owner989> thats the best sound card setup prog
[08:40] <Kyral> multimedia systems selector will help
[08:40] <rambo3> alsaconf is old
[08:40] <Kyral> but it works :D
[08:40] <Jowi> fantasai: what do you mean to a LAN? you connect to a router or to a switch?
[08:40] <owner989> what replaced it rambo3?
[08:40] <Kyral> If it ain't broke don't fix it
[08:40] <fluvvell> hasn't alsa been included in the kernel now?
[08:40] <rambo3> alsa-utils i think
[08:40] <tonyyarusso> AceMilo: libglib maybe?  I'm not really familiar with this one.
[08:40] <Kyral> Why do you think Apt is still around :D
[08:40] <fantasai> Jowi: I don't know. It's a university network.
[08:40] <AceMilo> im trying to install an ftp app and it says i need glib 1.2.3 or better
[08:40] <rambo3> even tho alsaconf worked much easyer
[08:40] <owner989> it is apart of alsa-utils, just the ubuntu one seemingly doesnt include it
[08:41] <owner989> you can get it from the alsa website still
[08:41] <Jowi> fantasai: so probably to a switch. can you ping the gateway?
[08:41] <ubun-newbie> how do i install perl
[08:41] <AceMilo> hmm good call tony
[08:41] <AceMilo> but when i go to make this app it says i dont have it
[08:41] <GURU500> I GOT PROBLEM : I WAS INSTALED TJE UBUNTU ON MY DESKTOP PC AND I WANT TO MOVE THE SYSTEM TO LAPTOP [ I WAS INSTALED ON PRIMARY MASTER 2,5 " HDD]  WHEN I CONNECTED THE HDD TO MY LAPTOP HE START DOING STH STRANGE HE DOING SINCE 2H "4304611 590000 OVER COURNET CHANGE ON PORT 21 ] 
[08:41] <GURU500> THIS ; GOOD OR NOT?
[08:41] <timmy334> I can not seem to get Xorg to work in Breezy. I've tried a regular install and tried a server install and installing Xorg separately. Does anybody know why Xorg is so vorked in Breezy?
[08:41] <tonyyarusso> GURU500: Please ditch the all caps.
[08:41] <fantasai> Jowi: I can't get to any sites on or off the university domain.
[08:41] <bigozs> ubun-newbie: use synaptic
[08:41] <Jowi> GURU500: please turn capslock OFF
[08:41] <GURU500> sorry for caps:P
[08:41] <Jowi> haha
[08:42] <fantasai> Jowi: it doesn't just time out either, it acts as if the network's not htere
[08:42] <GURU500> can u help me with this problem ?
[08:42] <owner989> timmy334 run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:42] <madboar> PLEASE GURU500
[08:42] <madboar> turn off CAPS
[08:42] <AceMilo> i shouldnt write to an ntfs volume right?
[08:42] <Kyral> timmy334: could you perhaps paste the error msgs?
[08:42] <ubun-newbie> can i use apt-get install perl
[08:42] <GURU500> this;s good or not?
[08:42] <Kyral> AceMilo: No
[08:42] <AceMilo> i read somewhere its unstable
[08:42] <GURU500> what?
[08:42] <Chousuke> madboar: he did :P
[08:42] <Jowi> fantasai: "tracepath 216.239.59.99" that will give you an idea on how far you get.
[08:42] <varsendagger> !mplayer
[08:42] <Kyral> ubun-newbie: sudo it
[08:42] <ubotu> I heard mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[08:42] <madboar> oh aye. so he did.
[08:42] <Kyral> !find perl
[08:42] <AceMilo> its safe to read an ntfs tho right
[08:42] <Kyral> AceMilo: yes
[08:42] <varsendagger> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto?highlight=%28mplayer%29#head-238f5295aadecbe63e23a58bc9441bff86ef1ad7
[08:42] <AceMilo> ok cool thx
[08:43] <AceMilo> oh wait heres another one
[08:43] <AceMilo> i have a smb share of my music on my server running xp
[08:43] <Kyral> yah?
[08:43] <fantasai> Jowi: k, bbiab
[08:43] <AceMilo> my laptop running ubuntu reads the share fine
[08:43] <AceMilo> i can copy music off it
[08:43] <Kyral>  yah
[08:43] <AceMilo> but
[08:43] <Kyral> Cannot write?
[08:43] <AceMilo> if i just open an mp3 it wont play
[08:43] <timmy334> I can't atm, but it's a bunch of symbols not found and caught signal 4
[08:43] <Kyral> permissions problem?
[08:43] <AceMilo> i have to copy it to my desktop
[08:43] <St^Anger^19m> Ubuntu 5.10 runs out of the box on VMWare :)
[08:43] <AceMilo> i cant just stream it off my server
[08:44] <Totuus^Ubuntu> hello everyone
[08:44] <Kyral> oh
[08:44] <St^Anger^19m> although i must get used to not using nvidia driver
[08:44] <AceMilo> how do i fix that
[08:44] <Kyral> so you can't stream it
[08:44] <AceMilo> right
[08:44] <Kyral> but you can download and play it fine?
[08:44] <AceMilo> yes
[08:44] <Kyral> Is the share setup to stream?
[08:44] <timmy334> Kyral, I can't atm, but it's a bunch of symbols not found and caught signal 4
[08:44] <tonyyarusso> AceMilo & Kyral: Is it considered "executing" to play an MP3?
[08:44] <Totuus^Ubuntu> hey, does anyone have any idea how i save my configurations on Ubuntu 5.10 live?
[08:44] <AceMilo> probably
[08:44] <akonkwa> Does anyone know where I can Find Matlab or equivalent for ubuntu?
[08:44] <AceMilo> its a standard xp pro install on the server
[08:44] <d_pelaez> hello
[08:45] <AceMilo> standard windows smb sharing
[08:45] <bullitt> I installed the nvidia drivers, but I still have only 60hz availaible...
[08:45] <Kyral> tonyyarusso: I dont think so
[08:45] <Myrtti> !info octave
[08:45] <AceMilo> my xp computers stream it fine
[08:45] <quadra> [ !unload : no module with this name ] 
[08:45] <ubotu> octave: (GNU Octave language for numerical computations (2.1 branch)), section universe/math, is optional. Version: 2.1.71-2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 45 kB, Installed size: 72 kB
[08:45] <lillpelle> akonkwa: matlab costs money, but try octave
[08:45] <Kyral> AceMilo: I don't know much about XP anymore
[08:45] <AceMilo> but my ubuntu wont
[08:45] <Kyral> I'm sorry
[08:45] <AceMilo> i just wanna open an mp3 on my server and have it play
[08:45] <AceMilo> like on my pcs
[08:45] <dpt> Hello everyone
[08:45] <akonkwa> lillpelle,  can I find octave in synaptic?
[08:45] <bullitt> do I have to change my xorg.conf to get more resolutions and refresh rates?
[08:45] <tonyyarusso> akonkwa: I don't remember where, but I do remember stumbling across such a thing once, so have hope!
[08:45] <varsendagger> akonkwa, what does matlab do exactly?
[08:45] <Myrtti> !info octave
[08:45] <quadra> [ !unload : no module with this name ] 
[08:45] <ubotu> octave: (GNU Octave language for numerical computations (2.1 branch)), section universe/math, is optional. Version: 2.1.71-2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 45 kB, Installed size: 72 kB
[08:45] <lillpelle> akonkwa: Yes, it is available
[08:46] <akonkwa> lillpelle,  Ok thanx
[08:46] <St^Anger^19m> Matlab is a top-notch mathematical modelling software
[08:46] <gnomefreak> i dont think you can save yuour configuation on a live cd. i say that because live cd isnt using harddrive but i could be wrong on that one
[08:46] <lillpelle> akonkwa: read the info from ubotu aswell
[08:46] <Myrtti> ^^
[08:46] <St^Anger^19m> there practically exists no match for it
[08:46] <St^Anger^19m> i'm sure there is a Linux edition
[08:46] <dpt> how can i congifure my pc so that i can connect to it using the ip in order to have a remote console?
[08:46] <varsendagger> cool
[08:46] <AceMilo> so how can i stream my music?
[08:46] <Myrtti> icluding the price of Matlab
[08:46] <varsendagger> AceMilo, try streamtuner with xmms
[08:46] <dpt> how can i use my console using telnet or something like that remotely?
[08:46] <robotgeek> akonkwa: you might also be interested in scipy.
[08:46] <akonkwa> varsendagger,  It's a language es well as  a very powerfull tool for numeric modelisation
[08:46] <hedonick> akonkwa: you could take a look at scilab as well
[08:47] <AceMilo> is it built in or do i install it as  aplugin?
[08:47] <fantasai> Jowi: ok, I've got a network connection after rebooting this time.. for now anyway
[08:47] <varsendagger> cool, i had to use somehting like that when i was doing the mechanicl engineering thing, i don't remember what the program wahs though
[08:47] <MAPD> hey
[08:47] <akonkwa> robotgeek, hedonick , which one should  I choose? scipy, octave, scilab?
[08:47] <MAPD> anyone available
[08:47] <varsendagger> you can get ti92 emulators
[08:47] <St^Anger^19m> i'm using Matlab for my IT course at uni...communication system design
[08:47] <robotgeek> akonkwa: depends on what you need to do? what do you need to do
[08:48] <fantasai> Jowi: but how can I fix the configuration so that it finds the network 100% of the time, rather than only 50% of the time?
[08:48] <St^Anger^19m> i dont have matlab at home though
[08:48] <robotgeek> i used scipy for optimization analysis
[08:48] <dpt> how con i have a remote console?
[08:48] <varsendagger>  MAPD yeah what's up
[08:48] <MAPD> i want to make a computer act as a server
[08:48] <Jowi> fantasai: impossible to say. maybe you don't have the correct driver for your nic. find out what nic you have and have a look in the forums if it's got any issues.
[08:48] <hedonick> akonkwa: scilab is more of a complete environment I think... scipy and octave is more of pure programming languages
[08:48] <MAPD> and share internet with both linux and windows computers
[08:48] <tonyyarusso> akonkwa: See http://ubista.ubi.pt/~dfis-wg/linux/apps/free-2/linux_matlab.html
[08:48] <MAPD> the server is running linux ubuntu
[08:48] <hedonick> akonkwa: http://www.scilab.org/
[08:48] <fantasai> Jowi: how do I check which driver I'm using?
[08:48] <akonkwa> robotgeek,  I have matlab tex files that are a simulation of the behaviour of glass at high temperatures
[08:49] <AceMilo> still not playing
[08:49] <robotgeek> akonkwa: matlab tex file?
[08:49] <MAPD> varsendagger help pls?
[08:49] <MAPD> :)
[08:49] <akonkwa> robotgeek,  No, sorry, text file, no latex
[08:50] <timmy334> the weird thing is that Hoary installs perfectly, but a clean install of Breezy starts with a borked Xorg
[08:50] <robotgeek> akonkwa: as long as you don't use any special packages from Mathworks, it should be pretty close to octave syntax
[08:50] <varsendagger> MAPD, what you need is !samba
[08:50] <Jowi> fantasai: "lspci" or "cat /proc/modules"
[08:50] <Jowi> fantasai: "dmesg" will give you alot of info as well
[08:50] <varsendagger> MAPD, did you get that form ubotu
[08:50] <akonkwa> robotgeek,  Okay :) and as always, thanx for the help
[08:51] <Jowi> fantasai: dmesg | grep eth
[08:51] <akonkwa> tonyyarusso,  hedonick  : thanx ;)
[08:51] <robotgeek> akonkwa: no problem, anytime. i hear that octave aims for 1:1 matlab compliance, though i am not sure
[08:51] <JDahl> hedonick, I would characterize scilab as a scientific toolbox inspired by, e.g., Maple/Mathematica, octave as a Matlab clone, and scipy as a python package for scientific computations
[08:51] <robotgeek> i havent used octave since i moved to scipy
[08:51] <Jowi> bbl. c u all
[08:51] <tonyyarusso> varsendagger: Somewhat related question: Is there a good samba configuration how-to besides the 900-page book?  (I was having some issues setting up things, which cdubya's going to help me with later and I'm looking for readings.)
[08:51] <St^Anger^19m> does octave have the different toolboxes available for Matlab?
[08:51] <MAPD> samba let me share internet connection between ubuntu pcs?
[08:52] <varsendagger> hey what's the best 3d cad software fo linux?
[08:52] <fantasai> ok, I see e100 and orinoco_pci
[08:52] <fantasai> on Gentoo I ran eepro100 and prism2_pci
[08:52] <robotgeek> St^Anger^19m: maybe, maybe not.
[08:52] <AceMilo> what package do i need to play wmv video files?
[08:52] <JDahl> St^Anger^19m, it has a lot, but certainly not all. Most toolboxes are not that hard to hack up yourself, though
[08:52] <fantasai> how do I uninstall the network manager thing in the task bar?
[08:53] <timmy334> is there a known problem with xorg not working on default installs of Breezy?
[08:53] <varsendagger> tonyyarusso, depending on what you have to do some stuff in the ubjhuntu wiki is good stuff to know
[08:53] <fantasai> maybe if I set up the network by hand it'll actually work
[08:53] <tonyyarusso> varsendagger: Does Qcad do 3d?
[08:53] <varsendagger> tonyyarusso, no :(
[08:53] <St^Anger^19m> JDahl: i never did that :S...its tough to do 3rd party work when you got deadlines for the work i'm given :S
[08:53] <AceMilo> ubuntu is debian based correct?
[08:53] <timmy334> yes
[08:53] <gnomefreak> timmy334, i have never had a problem but linux does different things with different hardware
[08:54] <owner989> right acemilo
[08:54] <AceMilo> ok so i can dl packages for debian for it right
[08:54] <tonyyarusso> AceMilo: You can, but it's best to check for Ubuntu ones first.
[08:54] <AceMilo> i want to install videolan
[08:54] <timmy334> gnomefreak, yeah. it's just that it works flawlessly on Hoary, but a clean install of Breezy won't do diddly with xorg
[08:54] <JDahl> akonkwa, if you only need to translate matlab code to a free language, I would go for Octave
[08:54] <bimberi> tonyyarusso: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba
[08:54] <robotgeek> St^Anger^19m: i did most work for my controls class in scilab
[08:55] <MAPD> help pls
[08:55] <MAPD> [19:52]  <MAPD> i needed
[08:55] <robotgeek> St^Anger^19m: and my thesis work in scipy
[08:55] <MAPD> [19:52]  <MAPD> to make my ubuntu server
[08:55] <MAPD> [19:52]  <MAPD> work as router
[08:55] <timmy334> gnomefreak, did Hoary use xorg or xfree86?
[08:55] <tonyyarusso> AceMilo: They aren't identical, but a lot of Debian stuff will still run just fine.  Most things are included in the Ubuntu repos, but for the things that aren't you can use Debian's.
[08:55] <St^Anger^19m> robotgeek: wow :)
[08:55] <varsendagger> MAPD, i don't know aobut sharing the connection, what kind of connection do you have?
[08:55] <hume> anyone knows if there is a way in linux ubuntu to make pdf files readable on a Palm Tungsten5? Adobe only supplies software for win and mac
[08:55] <gnomefreak> timmy334,  not sure i didnt use hoary for maor than a week
[08:55] <AceMilo> i found it in synaptic :)
[08:55] <tonyyarusso> Thanks versendagger and bimberi.
[08:55] <MAPD> varsendagger cable
[08:55] <St^Anger^19m> i'm still getting used to linux as a whole, i'm managing to set it up quicker than the previous try each time i install
[08:56] <bimberi> MAPD: does the server have a GUI ?look at firestarter for setting up 'internet connection sharing'
[08:56] <tonyyarusso> AceMilo: VLC is in the Ubuntu universe repo.
[08:56] <varsendagger> MAPD, i don't know i ahve a router allready
[08:56] <MAPD> bimberi i want ideas
[08:56] <AceMilo> yes i found it :)
[08:56] <MAPD> how to make it
[08:56] <MAPD> i havent set it up yet
[08:56] <St^Anger^19m> and with VMWare, you can't get stuck with a nonworking system :)
[08:57] <RAW-mEAT> hello, when i add THIS:  Section "Extensions"
[08:57] <RAW-mEAT>     Option "Composite" "true"
[08:57] <RAW-mEAT> EndSection         to my xorg.conf its unable to start.. it says unable to write .Xauthority file.. i set chmod 777 on .Xauthority :/ what can i do.. i want transparency on Xorg!
[08:57] <linux_n00b_e> You guys, you know what I realised today? Open Source software doesn't mean free software....
[08:57] <tonyyarusso> varsendagger: You can try checking http://www.linuxlinks.com/Software/Graphics/CAD/index.shtml.  A lot of the 3D ones are commercial though.
[08:58] <gnomefreak> linux_n00b_e,  free as in no money your right it doesnt open source means that you can change it anyway you want
[08:58] <bimberi> MAPD: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/hardware/InternetConectionSharing?highlight=%28sharing%29
[08:58] <mlalkaka> hi. i'm looking for a description of the various repositories in ubuntu. can someone tell me where to look?
[08:58] <linux_n00b_e> I mean to really compete with the big comanies out there, the people that design software for Linux need money
[08:58] <MAPD> is it possible to make like
[08:58] <MAPD> active directory?
[08:59] <ubun-newbie> matrix@ubuntu:~$ perl
[08:59] <ubun-newbie> nothing happens
[08:59] <varsendagger> linux_n00b_e, that is true, you could take ubuntu and changse somethings around and sell it   -- i guess you wouod ahve to ignore the ubuntu code of ethics to
[08:59] <ubun-newbie> how do i start perl
[09:00] <fantasai> ubun-newbie: try installing the perl packages through Synaptic?
[09:00] <varsendagger> linux_n00b_e, you shold start programming for money
[09:00] <ubun-newbie> i did apt-get install perl
[09:00] <gnomefreak> varsendagger, i think it states you can re distrubute it for free and you have to have source code along with it
[09:00] <varsendagger> i paid for moneydance because it was good
[09:00] <St^Anger^19m> linux is just as good as any other OS, most advanced geekish features are transparent to users on any OS, both windows, mac and linux...what linux still has to work on a little is interface in my opinion..other than that, most things work perfectly.
[09:00] <linux_n00b_e> I came to Linux from the World of Apple. Not because apple sucks, but because I can't afford a Powerbook right now and I needed a viable OS solution for my Thinkpad
[09:00] <fantasai> ubun-newbie: and after you type perl into the command line, you just get a new command line or a blank prompt?
[09:01] <ubun-newbie> blank prompt
[09:01] <fantasai> type in "print 'Hello World';"
[09:01] <timmy334> linux_n00b_e, I agree. Ubuntu is a great distro for my HP zd8110, if I can get Breezy to f***ing work
[09:01] <fantasai> press enter
[09:01] <gnomefreak> try sudo?
[09:01] <fantasai> and type Ctrl+D
[09:01] <trappist> ubun-newbie: what are you trying to accomplish?  what do you expect to happen when you type perl?
[09:02] <linux_n00b_e> I agree, one of the only things that is holding Linux back is the lack of a solid consistent interface design. An Identity of it's own...
[09:02] <tonyyarusso> linux_n00b_e: I also am running on a Thinkpad.  Sadly, after paying for it to come with Windows.  They aren't shipping them OS-less yet.  :(
[09:02] <ubun-newbie>  perl
[09:02] <ubun-newbie> "print 'Hello World';"
[09:02] <gundu> hi
[09:02] <Matthew-> whats the package that sets up wireless?
[09:02] <ubun-newbie> nothing happens
[09:02] <St^Anger^19m> most would disagree with me and say "that what's nice, you have a choice", but the thing i dislike most is the different interfaces and menu system in different distros.....finally i decided to stick to ubuntu, come hell or high water
[09:02] <Matthew-> wireless tools or something?
[09:02] <mlalkaka> will ubuntu release firefox 1.5 on breezy, or do i have to wait until dapper?
[09:02] <gnomefreak> linux_n00b_e, what do you mean holding linux back?
[09:02] <AceMilo> thx all
[09:02] <tonyyarusso> Matthew-: Yes, wireless-tools.
[09:03] <shinu> if i run ssh -X, will i be able to run startx with the xserver appearing on the client machine and not the server machine?
[09:03] <gundu> trying to install an apache1.3 with php4, but every time when i try to install php4 via apt-get he only isntalls the libs for apache2, how could this be ?
[09:03] <fantasai> ubun-newbie: minus the quotes
[09:03] <fantasai> e.g. like this
[09:03] <neurocyte> mlalkaka, it's fairly unlikely imho
[09:03] <bones> hi
[09:03] <fantasai> $perl
[09:03] <tonyyarusso> mlalkaka: You have to wait for dapper technically, although breezy backports should get it eventually.
[09:03] <neurocyte> mlalkaka, firefox effects too many other packages
[09:03] <fantasai> print 'Hello World';
[09:03] <Madpilot> gundu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:04] <evan_> Synaptic Package Manager doesent seem to have libSDL_image-1.2.so.0 can anyone help me?
[09:04] <trappist> ubun-newbie: perl -e 'print "Hello World\n"'
[09:04] <ubun-newbie> perl
[09:04] <ubun-newbie> print 'hello world' ;
[09:04] <gnomefreak> linux isnt distobuted the way it is in hopes it will take over M$ it is an alternitive to M$
[09:04] <ubun-newbie> nothing happens
[09:04] <St^Anger^19m> neurocyte: that's another weakness...installing new software should be easier...
[09:04] <mlalkaka> tonyyarusso, does using the backports repository make you update all the software?
[09:04] <bimberi> mlalkaka: it may get backported, in the meantime there's https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[09:04] <ubun-newbie> perl -e 'print "Hello World\n"'
[09:04] <ubun-newbie> Hello World
[09:04] <trappist> ubun-newbie: ctrl-d
[09:04] <St^Anger^19m> i want Linux to take over M$ :)
[09:04] <evan_> Synaptic Package Manager doesent seem to have libSDL_image-1.2.so.0 can anyone help me?
[09:04] <linux_n00b_e> What I mean is that as good as Linux is, the average person that uses a computer has to have something to identify with. People who swear by Apple identify themselves with the look and style of Apple. Even people who swear by Windows identify themselves with the look and style of Apple.
[09:05] <trappist> ubun-newbie: what are you trying to accomplish.
[09:05] <mlalkaka> St^Anger^19m, then how would we show people how damn good linux is?
[09:05] <ubun-newbie> now if i want to put a file
[09:05] <ubun-newbie> how do  i do it
[09:05] <Kyral> linux_n00b_e: Its called the penguin :D
[09:05] <trappist> ubun-newbie: /join #perl
[09:05] <evan_> can anyone help me?
[09:05] <fantasai> ubun-newbie: perl filename
[09:05] <mlalkaka> St^Anger^19m, lol we need m$ as an example of how bad an OS could be
[09:05] <fantasai> ubun-newbie: will execute filename as a perl script
[09:05] <gnomefreak> linux_n00b_e,  i agree but people that use linux have things they like about it and can identify with
[09:06] <St^Anger^19m> mlalkaka: what kind of good?
[09:06] <St^Anger^19m> as in
[09:06] <tonyyarusso> mlalkaka: I have no idea.  I'm just telling you what others have told me.  I've never used backports yet.
[09:06] <Kyral> evan_: what is the package again?
[09:06] <gundu> yes Madpilot its for apache2.. but i want a apache1.3
[09:06] <evan_> Synaptic Package Manager doesent seem to have libSDL_image-1.2.so.0 can anyone help me?
[09:06] <mlalkaka> tonyyarusso, thanks
[09:06] <St^Anger^19m> i still find myself comfy with windows...i admit i'm not running a server here...just a normal desktop
[09:06] <Kyral> evan_: gimme a sec to search mkay?
[09:06] <evan_> ok
[09:06] <linux_n00b_e> Because there are so many different Linux distros more often than not choose to not collaborate, Linux has no broad range style and look. And don't confuse a Logo with style and look, they are two different things.
[09:06] <St^Anger^19m> i like linux coz it's Different
[09:06] <Madpilot> gundu: ah, OK - no idea about 1.3, sorry
[09:06] <St^Anger^19m> so i'm getting used to it
[09:07] <Matthew-> is wireless-tools not included on the install cd?
[09:07] <yuri> hello. I have two hardrives. windows on primary and ubunti on secondary. I partitioned ext3 space ftom my primary. How do I mount that new partition into ununtu?
[09:07] <LeeColleton> St^Anger^19m: when you get used to it, it stops being different.  careful: you may stop liking it then
[09:07] <crypticreign[w] > what package is Xlib.h in?
[09:07] <St^Anger^19m> in 5 months i learnt a lot...i can configure my ubuntu installation in a few hours
[09:07] <gnomefreak> linux_n00b_e,  linux will always have one thing that will never change "the terminal" that is what you can call linux trademark in the sence that thats how people know of linux
[09:07] <crypticreign[w] > i dont see like a xorg-devel or anything
[09:07] <mlalkaka> St^Anger^19m, exactly. linux is very different from m$ windows. that's why m$ needs to exist (a little) -- it shows the other side of the spectrum
[09:07] <tonyyarusso> Matthew-: I think it is, but if not you can always apt-get it.
[09:07] <St^Anger^19m> mlalkaka: M$ is expensive. :)
[09:08] <Kyral> evan_: try libsdl-image1.2
[09:08] <Matthew-> tony - how do i access settings from terminal?
[09:08] <St^Anger^19m> the only thing i miss from windows is the click and install part
[09:08] <tonyyarusso> yuri: Check the output of fdisk to find out what that partition is, and add it to /etc/fstab, then mount it.
[09:08] <Kyral> St^Anger^19m: Ironically I hate that
[09:08] <evan_> nope, nothing
[09:08] <Kyral> Apt-Get forever!
[09:08] <linux_n00b_e> Also, the average computer user wants something that is user friendly and "just works" right out of the box. A person who has no experience using the terminal will not look at Linux as a replacement for Windows even if they hate Windows. They will feel that it;;s too much work or that the learning curve is too high.....
[09:08] <gnomefreak> St^Anger^19m,  you think MS is expoensive? go look at mac osx and check the price :(
[09:08] <yuri> will do. thanks
[09:08] <_jason> St^Anger^19m, ubuntu has right click and install without virus worries :D
[09:08] <St^Anger^19m> where each software is treated as one set...makes more logical sense to me imho...but i'm not dumping linux..i believe some work in the GUI will get it there
[09:08] <Kyral> evan_: hmm what are you running? Breezy?
[09:09] <tonyyarusso> Matthew-: Depends on the setting.  ifconfig and iwconfig seem to cover it though, and then see their helps and man pages.
[09:09] <evan_> umm
[09:09] <GTroy> uhm is there a good rar app?
[09:09] <JDahl> linux_n00b_e, who said linux is everyone?
[09:09] <evan_> i dunno lol
[09:09] <JDahl> linux_n00b_e, who said linux is for everyone?
[09:09] <St^Anger^19m> JDahl: why not make it for every1?
[09:09] <hedonick> St^Anger^19m: especially fun is MS CAL (client access licenes)..  sometimes you end up paying for just accessing a MS server
[09:09] <Kyral> JDahl: I did
[09:09] <owner989> linux_n00b_e i agree that a functional gui is very useful but the terminal is more powerful for many tasks
[09:09] <Kyral> Actually Stallman did through the GPL
[09:09] <Kyral> from a legal stance :D
[09:10] <St^Anger^19m> owner989: terminal is more powerful yes, but how many beginners will use it?
[09:10] <Kyral> St^Anger^19m: They will
[09:10] <Kyral> if they learn
[09:10] <owner989> people used to use dos
[09:10] <Kyral> just like anything else
[09:10] <St^Anger^19m> Kyral: i did, because i had to
[09:10] <rambo3> yeah "peopl"
[09:10] <jgrieves> if i had a nickel for every terminal/gui debate...
[09:10] <JDahl> St^Anger^19m, I fail to see why linux will become better because everyone is using it... linux is great because it suits the needs of developers mostly
[09:10] <Kyral> You had no clue how to use Windows
[09:10] <Kyral> but then you learned
[09:10] <Kyral> and then it was easy
[09:10] <mz2> is there any repo where one could get Firefox 1.5 for Dapper?
[09:10] <rambo3> ms aint bad as dell and apple
[09:10] <Kyral> same thing here
[09:10] <Kyral> mz2: I should be there
[09:10] <jgrieves> !firefox15
[09:10] <ubotu> hmm... firefox15 is see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for information on how to install Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org
[09:10] <evan_> hmm i think i have the latest one i downloaded and instaled it yester day
[09:10] <Kyral> or something like 1.49999
[09:10] <fantasai> Kyral: Windows and Mac didn't require manuals for basic stuff
[09:10] <St^Anger^19m> but i learn windows a tad quicker :S
[09:10] <mz2> the build that's currently available through ubuntu itself is still Deer Park
[09:11] <linux_n00b_e> What needs to happen is that all of the major distros need to come together and create a unified body where they can agree that it's alright to have their various versions of Linux, but it's also ok to have standards that work for everybody regardless of what distro a person uses.
[09:11] <jgrieves> oh dapper
[09:11] <owner989> mz2 no official repo
[09:11] <tonyyarusso> linux_n00b_e: What I've found is that everything I used to do on Windows I can do through the GUI here, but I've also learned of some terminal things which are super-handy, so I can do more powerful stuff.
[09:11] <Kyral> fantasai: describe basic stuff
[09:11] <fantasai> Kyral: you could expore most of the settings
[09:11] <owner989> but i can post an unofficial install link
[09:11] <Kyral> Its called GNOME Control Center
[09:11] <mz2> owner989: doesn't have to be unofficial
[09:11] <mz2> official
[09:11] <Kyral> GUI right there
[09:11] <mz2> :)
[09:11] <owner989> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[09:11] <fantasai> Kyral: install games, play them, use a word processor, nowadays it's also Setting up networking
[09:11] <linux_n00b_e> That is true, but you're not an average user.
[09:11] <owner989> btw ff 1.5 is really fast
[09:11] <Kyral> games you have me on
[09:11] <fantasai> Kyral: print
[09:11] <Kyral> but Ubuntu comes with OO.org2
[09:11] <evan_> hmm i think i have the latest one i downloaded and instaled it yester day
[09:11] <fantasai> Kyral: I can't print in Ubunut
[09:12] <Kyral> which is better than Office in most cases
[09:12] <linux_n00b_e> We're talking about the people who only download music or read email.
[09:12] <Kyral> linux_n00b_e: then its set up
[09:12] <fantasai> Kyral: I can't get a network connection that isn't extremely flaky
[09:12] <gnomefreak> one thing that will always be better than MS about linux you can make it as you like it not as gates likes it
[09:12] <Kyral> fantasai: what are you usinf Wireless?
[09:12] <owner989> ubuntu was pretty easy to setup imho linux_n00b_e
[09:12] <jgrieves> so anyway my intrd is no longer mounting /dev stuff, do i need to recompile intrd?
[09:12] <fantasai> Kyral: both wireless and ethernet
[09:12] <Kyral> Wireless would be the signal problem
[09:12] <halibut> [20:12]  linux_n00b_e We're talking about the people who only download music or read email.   0o    setting up bittorrent is more difficult than installing most modern linux distros
[09:12] <fantasai> Kyral: it isn't so much that it cuts out intermittently (it does sometimes) but that it just won't connect to the network which is there
[09:12] <evan_> oh well i guess it doeent matter........
[09:12] <Kyral> I have never had a wired conn not auto picked up by Linux
[09:13] <Kyral> evan_: sorry
[09:13] <fantasai> Kyral: oh, no. I get full signal from here
[09:13] <gnomefreak> oops almost forgot its a lot safer than MS :)
[09:13] <Kyral> I got distracted
[09:13] <fantasai> Kyral: it's a configuration problem
[09:13] <St^Anger^19m> Linux is a great new system to experiment with....i'm just discouraged to do "everything" with it, because i like the download .exe file, double click, install and use
[09:13] <GTroy> is rar a good app?
[09:13] <Kyral> Then go to the network setup app
[09:13] <tonyyarusso> linux_n00b_e: If that's all they're doing, I'd say the GUI is probably sufficient, yes.  But if they only knew...
[09:13] <linux_n00b_e> lol @ haibut: This is true!
[09:13] <GTroy> does it open rar too?
[09:13] <fantasai> Kyral: the network setup app is crap
[09:13] <fishhead> THE PASSENGER IS DEAD!!!!! W00H00 YOU TO HELL AND YOU DIE
[09:13] <fantasai> Kyral: it doesn't do anything for me
[09:13] <jgrieves> so anyway my intrd is no longer mounting /dev stuff, do i need to recompile intrd?
[09:13] <owner989> St^Anger^19m you can run exe in linux
[09:13] <owner989> just install wine
[09:13] <owner989> i can double click and install win32 programs
[09:13] <fantasai> Kyral: half the time I have to reboot to get things to work
[09:14] <fantasai> Kyral: which is not ok
[09:14] <Kyral> fantasai: you always had to reboot in Window
[09:14] <St^Anger^19m> owner989: that's the point....its not what u CAN do..its HOW u do it that matters
[09:14] <tonyyarusso> linux_n00b_e: And getting to the Ubuntu GUI is at least as easy as for Windows.  (I can tell you one thing, it certainly takes less time!)
[09:14] <fantasai> Kyral: uh, no
[09:14] <Kyral> Yah
[09:14] <jbroome> woohoo
[09:14] <Kyral> Everytime you installed a driver
[09:14] <Kyral> reboot
[09:14] <simone> hi all, i have a connection problem on kubuntu, May I ask here?
[09:14] <St^Anger^19m> i dont mind rebooting
[09:14] <St^Anger^19m> as long as its "easier" to me
[09:14] <fantasai> Kyral: how often do I install a driver, though? almost never
[09:14] <fantasai> Kyral: I switch networks very often though
[09:14] <Kyral> Thats a good thing ;D
[09:14] <owner989> i only reboot to play some games
[09:14] <fantasai> Kyral: and windows doesn't require a reboot
[09:14] <Kyral> well I think there is an app
[09:15] <fantasai> Kyral: but Ubuntu often does
[09:15] <Madpilot> fantasai: I've had regular applications in Windows demand a reboot after installation...
[09:15] <owner989> fantasai ever try ctrl-alt-backspace?
[09:15] <Kyral> fantasai: I assume you are on a laptop yes?
[09:15] <fantasai> Madpilot: iTunes?
[09:15] <linux_n00b_e> Instead of always having to compile a program ourselves, programmers should come up with an installer program that offers a choice: Let the installer install a basic installation of a program for you or press here and the terminal will open and you can compile the program yourself.
[09:15] <fantasai> owner989: to restart XWindows? no. I should try that, though :)
[09:15] <fantasai> owner989: but still, it shouldnt' be necessary
[09:15] <owner989> yes fantasai it restarts x
[09:15] <Kyral> linux_n00b_e: its called Apt-Get
[09:16] <fantasai> linux_n00b_e: use Synaptic
[09:16] <St^Anger^19m> for example....some work on the XPDE would be great
[09:16] <Madpilot> fantasai: no, not iTunes, can't remember now - more than one app, over the years
[09:16] <Kyral> Apt-Get, Portage
[09:16] <tonyyarusso> St^Anger^19m: I was at the "experiment with it" stage a while ago, but this morning I reformatted the drive an left Windows as dual-boot, but stole all of the extra space for Ubuntu, which has gone from brand new to my primary OS over the last 4 months.
[09:16] <Kyral> Urpmi
[09:16] <linux_n00b_e> But with 'apt-get' you still have to use the Terimanl... that defeats the purpose.
[09:16] <fantasai> linux_n00b_e: it's much better than windows installation, because it pulls in all dependencies without duplicating them and keeps things up to date very very easily
[09:16] <owner989> synaptic is not terminal
[09:16] <Kyral> Then use Synaptic
[09:16] <Kyral> and you will quickly find the terminal faster
[09:16] <Kyral> Terminal != Bad
[09:16] <owner989> terminal is great
[09:17] <St^Anger^19m> updating with linux is 10,000 easier than on windows...that's a fact
[09:17] <fantasai> granted Synaptic could use a bit more work to make its lists human-readable
[09:17] <owner989> people forget windows xp has a command prompt
[09:17] <St^Anger^19m> but setting drivers up on linux was hell for me :(
[09:17] <Kyral> owner989: you mean that bastardized version of DOS?
[09:17] <owner989> lol kyral
[09:17] <tonyyarusso> linux_n00b-e: I think I've only compiled about three things after learning of apt/Synaptic/Breezy's new ever-so-nifty Add Applications.
[09:17] <linux_n00b_e> And using Synaptic or Adept can some times be confusing because they each install programs in different manners depending on the distro you ahve.
[09:17] <owner989> but its still useful for some tasks kyral
[09:18] <jgrieves> Kyral sadly that is actually almost true in both a cursing and literal sense
[09:18] <Kyral> linux_n00b_e: Synaptic works mostly on Debian based things
[09:18] <Kyral> which means Apt-Get
[09:18] <St^Anger^19m> synaptic is cool...but apt-get on console is quicker, once u know the commands
[09:18] <Kyral> IN THEORY if I wanted to I could change this into a Debian Sid install by changing my sources list
[09:18] <gnomefreak> wasnt unix made public before dos?
[09:18] <St^Anger^19m> having both is even greater ;)
[09:18] <Kyral> and you think I use the full commands?
[09:18] <Kyral> Hell no I use aliases
[09:19] <tonyyarusso> Kyral: Yes, that one that's the only thing you can use after Windows dies.  I've saved a few computers because of MS command prompts.
[09:19] <welp> w00t
[09:19] <Kyral> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade turns into aptUI
[09:19] <owner989> unix is from 1968 gnome
[09:19] <welp> here asd well?
[09:19] <welp> *as
[09:19] <St^Anger^19m> btwwww
[09:19] <afonit> anyone know of a good gnome taks manager?
[09:19] <gnomefreak> owner989, yes i know but wasnt dos made public in the 70s?
[09:19] <St^Anger^19m> as a linux newbie...5 months old :) i need to ask a question
[09:19] <linux_n00b_e> All I'm saying is that distro programs need to start thinking about the common users of the world if they ever really want to knock Gates out of the box....
[09:19] <afonit> task manager
[09:20] <Kyral> System Monitor
[09:20] <afonit> like -to do manager
[09:20] <owner989> thats true gnomefreak
[09:20] <Kyral> linux_n00b_e: our goal isn't domination
[09:20] <St^Anger^19m> my machines seems less responsive on linux than on windows...even with the 686-smp kernel
[09:20] <linux_n00b_e> That's not the point, Kyral
[09:20] <owner989> is dma enabled St^Anger^19m
[09:20] <zAo^> St^Anger^19m, installed the VGA driver?
[09:20] <Kyral> The GPL is about choice
[09:20] <gnomefreak> so to say terminal is a bastardize version of dos would be incorrect in the sence that dos is a bastardized version of unix :)
[09:20] <Kyral> Linux is about choice
[09:21] <St^Anger^19m> i installed nvdia driver yes
[09:21] <St^Anger^19m> wot about DMA?
[09:21] <owner989> dma should be enabled be default in ubuntu
[09:21] <tonyyarusso> afonit: gtodo
[09:21] <yuri> when putting info into fstab to mount an ext3 partition, what do I put under the "options" ?
[09:21] <Kyral> owner989: normally it is
[09:21] <owner989> all computers for the past 10 years have dma
[09:21] <Kyral> for HD
[09:21] <gundu> when i type /etc/init.d/apache2 start nothing happens, the error.log is empty
[09:21] <afonit> tonyyarusso: ty
[09:21] <gundu> what can i do ?
[09:21] <Kyral> yuri: users, auto, rw
[09:21] <yuri> thanks
[09:21] <linux_n00b_e> The reason the average person likes Apple is because it "just works" right out of the box. If you don't know anything about the Terminal, you don't have to use it.
[09:21] <zAo^> gundu, /var/log/messages?
[09:21] <Kyral> linux_n00b_e: the same with Ubuntu
[09:22] <Kyral> hell we give you the guide in the help menu
[09:22] <linux_n00b_e> But if you do, that just increases what you can do with the OS
[09:22] <owner989> linux_n00b_e apples are too simplistic
[09:22] <tonyyarusso> yuri: The first time I did it I just copied the other lines, and then learned later to add umask=000, and that did it.
[09:22] <Kyral> You NEVER have to touch the commandline if you don't want o
[09:22] <gundu> zAo^, nothing in it about apache
[09:22] <tonyyarusso> linux_n00b_e: Precisely.
[09:22] <gnomefreak> linux_n00b_e,  first off you dont ever have to use terminal anymore well maybe once in a blue moon if you dont want to next if linux was to compete with MS why even bother having linux?
[09:22] <Kyral> tonyyarusso: thats only for FAT32
[09:22] <fantasai> Kyral: supposedly
[09:23] <fantasai> Kyral: but it's not really true
[09:23] <Kyral> Add Repos, go to Synaptic and hit the checkboxes
[09:23] <MAPD> is it possible to make like active directory?
[09:23] <tonyyarusso> Kyral: Right.  Which mine was.  Sorry for not making that clear.
[09:23] <Kyral> I actually know why as well
[09:23] <GTroy> anyone know how to use rar?
[09:23] <Kyral> lol
[09:23] <St^Anger^19m> Kyral: I disagree...i need w32codec...all help tells me to sue command line...i need gstreamer...all the help tells me to use command line
[09:23] <linux_n00b_e> owner989: that's because you are comfortable with compiling everything yourself and using the Terminal. The average user is not. They like things simplistic.
[09:23] <zAo^> GTroy, install unrar-nonfree
[09:23] <St^Anger^19m> if i want a codec on windows...i download and click
[09:23] <Kyral> St^Anger^19m: thats because its faster
[09:23] <fantasai> Kyral: i had to hand edit a config file to get suspend working here
[09:23] <Kyral> your point?
[09:23] <gnomefreak> St^Anger^19m, synaptic should have gstreamer in it
[09:23] <yuri> so is there a diff between setting it up as  users, auto, rw  and umask=000?
[09:24] <owner989> you dont really need to compile anything nowadays
[09:24] <yuri> or do I put both?
[09:24] <GTroy> aAo^: not just rar?
[09:24] <Kyral> St^Anger^19m: its easier for use to say "run this command" than to say "Click here, clikck here, click here..."
[09:24] <gnomefreak> apt-get and synaptic have the same packages
[09:24] <fantasai> Kyral: that shouldn't be necessary for something so basic
[09:24] <zAo^> GTroy, also possible ;)
[09:24] <tonyyarusso> yuri: Do what Kyral said.
[09:24] <zAo^> GTroy, then start file-roller
[09:24] <yuri> ok
[09:24] <linux_n00b_e> The goal is not to dominate but to survive. If you don't take the proper steps to survive now, who's to say that we'll still be able to use Linux in 10, 20 years from now?
[09:24] <GTroy> ah ok
[09:24] <St^Anger^19m> Kyral..yes command line is faster than GUI if u know how to use it...but the GUI should be better for those who dont wish to tinket with console...
[09:24] <Kyral> fantasai: you should have seen what linux on laptops was like 2 years ago
[09:24] <Kyral> St^Anger^19m: What tinkering?
[09:24] <Kyral> We tell you what to do
[09:25] <St^Anger^19m> as in...learning commands
[09:25] <jgrieves> so anyway my intrd is no longer mounting /dev stuff, do i need to recompile intrd?
[09:25] <St^Anger^19m> anyways
[09:25] <St^Anger^19m> back to my issue
[09:25] <Kyral> the notion that commandline = scary is FALSE
[09:25] <linux_n00b_e> Which brings me back to my original point: Open Source does not mean free.
[09:25] <Kyral> jgrieves: I don't think so...
[09:25] <St^Anger^19m> firefox on windows starts in around 1 to 2 seconds
[09:25] <jgrieves> Kyral rm -rf / :)
[09:25] <gnomefreak> linux_n00b_e,  linux/unix oses have been around for a very long time and still running strong and it started as unix
[09:25] <St^Anger^19m> if i run it on linux..it takes some 6 seconds to load..why? :(
[09:25] <jgrieves> my grandma doesn't know wha ta ocmmand line is or understand its, its not tangible hence scary
[09:25] <Kyral> hmm, check your HD stuff
[09:25] <fantasai> Kyral: I was using Linux on my laptop 2 years ago
[09:25] <jgrieves> HD iis good
[09:26] <Kyral> jgrieves: fear of the unknown
[09:26] <Kyral> jgrieves: what was to St^Anger^19m
[09:26] <jgrieves> was ok
[09:26] <fantasai> Kyral: suspend worked
[09:26] <Kyral> St^Anger^19m: look if your HD is doing a lot of activity during that time
[09:26] <linux_n00b_e> If we want to enable Linux to survive we need to get better at supporting the programmers who put everything into the programs we use to make them better.
[09:26] <pawdro> ive just compiled new kernel, how should i do mkinitrd with new System.map and bzImage??
[09:26] <gnomefreak> St^Anger^19m, has alot to do with the suorce code and also the way windows and linux use the file system and cache and crap :)
[09:26] <St^Anger^19m> no....i just log onto linux.....and then open firfoex...
[09:26] <Millenniumgroup> If you're not willing to learn a new/better/logical system why bother? Im tired of listening to poor windows souls.. trying to bash a great system as linux... :)
[09:27] <Kyral> then do in a terminal sudo hdparm </root/device>
[09:27] <owner989> linux_n00b_e but its upto programmers to release their programs for linux
[09:27] <Kyral> linux_n00b_e: I work so you don't have to. We will NEVER be a clone of Windows
[09:27] <St^Anger^19m> gnomefreak: so i can't fix the speed issue/
[09:27] <St^Anger^19m> ?
[09:27] <Kyral> We are not windows
[09:27] <GTroy> zAo^: done thanks
[09:27] <Millenniumgroup> word ^^ Kyral!
[09:27] <zAo^> GTroy, np
[09:27] <Kyral> St^Anger^19m: do sudo hdparm </root/dev>
[09:27] <Kyral> and see if it says using DMA
[09:27] <linux_n00b_e> Programmers who have the proper funding can not only release their programs for Linux , but for other OS's so that people can see what they are missing in Linux....
[09:27] <owner989> still i think linux has improved a lot over the past few years
[09:28] <Kyral> linux_n00b_e: its the GPL
[09:28] <Kyral> you can release a Linux proggy on Windows, OSX, hell even on AMIGA
[09:28] <gnomefreak> St^Anger^19m,  you can change the settings internally in firefox i think its about:firefox but i dont remember what the about address is
[09:28] <linux_n00b_e> And as users we need to start demanding that other software companies make port of their programs for active use on Linux OS.
[09:28] <yuri> it worked. thank you, tonyyarusso and kyral
[09:29] <Millenniumgroup> owner989 yup, windows is still stoneage :D
[09:29] <Kyral> yuri: Glad to be of service
[09:29] <tonyyarusso> yuri: Good to hear.
[09:29] <gnomefreak> linux_n00b_e,  that would make linux no more free than MS
[09:29] <St^Anger^19m> Kyral...the command ugave didnt work
[09:29] <owner989> Millenniumgroup hehe
[09:29] <Kyral> St^Anger^19m: what did it say?
[09:29] <owner989> the usb support in particular is much better in linux than a few years ago
[09:29] <_jason> gnomefreak, St^Anger^19m about:config ?
[09:29] <Kyral> it wouldn't change anything it just outputs the statement
[09:29] <gnomefreak> people want money to write programs
[09:30] <Kyral> not true
[09:30] <gnomefreak> _jason, thank you thats it
[09:30] <Kyral> Look at all the GPL'd software
[09:30] <owner989> there are plenty of commercial linux programs gnomefreak
[09:30] <St^Anger^19m> bash: syntax error near expected token newline
[09:30] <linux_n00b_e> The OS can still be "free" and the basic packages that come with Linux can still be free, but if you want more robust software, those are  things that you will have to buy.
[09:30] <Millenniumgroup> people want money for their time..
[09:30] <_jason> St^Anger^19m, in the url bar
[09:30] <_jason> St^Anger^19m, of firefox
[09:30] <Millenniumgroup> that doesn't mean we can help out on our free time
[09:30] <Kyral> _jason: he's doing somehting I told him I think
[09:30] <St^Anger^19m> _jason...yes i know about the firefox bar
[09:30] <_jason> St^Anger^19m, my bad
[09:30] <gnomefreak> owner989,  yes but now if you have companies writing programs that run on windows for linux you mean to tell me they wouldnt wanna get paid and in turn raise the rates for linux?
[09:31] <linux_n00b_e> That's the business model that Red Hat and Novell follow and it
[09:31] <MAPD> hello!
[09:31] <St^Anger^19m> np
[09:31] <MAPD> help!?
[09:31] <linux_n00b_e> is working...
[09:31] <owner989> but some things will never happen
[09:31] <owner989> ie ms releasing microsoft office for linux
[09:31] <Kyral> St^Anger^19m: try "sudo hdparm /dev/whatever" where wherever is the name of your root disk (most likely hda)
[09:31] <pawdro> i cant find mkinitrd in system
[09:31] <Kyral> w/o the ""
[09:31] <St^Anger^19m> i dont use MS Office
[09:31] <pawdro> what to do?
[09:31] <St^Anger^19m> Open Office is excellent
[09:31] <St^Anger^19m> even on windows
[09:31] <Kyral> I <3 Export to PDF
[09:31] <tonyyarusso> Open Office is very nice.
[09:31] <linux_n00b_e> The main reason that I bring this up is because of Adobe.
[09:31] <JDahl> MAPD, help with what?
[09:32] <MAPD> does linux have an active directory system?
[09:32] <tonyyarusso> Much better than the chunk of cash I spent on MS Office before I found out about it.  (There's always next time...)
[09:32] <St^Anger^19m> Kyral: using_dam is set to ON
[09:32] <Kyral> St^Anger^19m: so its not DMA
[09:32] <linux_n00b_e> For my Web development programming I use macromedia studio 8.
[09:32] <Kyral> whats your memory status
[09:32] <tonyyarusso> linux_n00b_e: What about Adobe?
[09:32] <Kyral> ie, how much is being used
[09:33] <St^Anger^19m> i have 1 gig of corsair ram.....
[09:33] <Kyral> hmmm
[09:33] <linux_n00b_e> But now that the merger has gone thru they have raised the price significantly on the studio 8 bundle.
[09:33] <Kyral> Wait this is FF 1?
[09:33] <JDahl> MAPD, I dont know what that is. Also, if noone answers you, it's because noone knows the answer
[09:33] <St^Anger^19m> how cani tell u amount being used?
[09:33] <MAPD> ok thank
[09:33] <MAPD> s
[09:33] <Kyral> St^Anger^19m: go to the System Monitor in either System Tools or Accessories
[09:33] <linux_n00b_e> Actually theu have bundles their Creative suite 2 sof with the Studio 8 sof and the price: $1899.99
[09:34] <Kyral> and why is this our problem?
[09:34] <Kyral> If you don't want to pay find a GPL Solution
[09:34] <tonyyarusso> I haven't found anything yet where there wasn't a GPL version of what I used before on Windows.
[09:35] <St^Anger^19m> Kyral: 170 megs of ram are being used
[09:35] <Dex-Freudii> I have some trouble with a webcam.. Can anybody please help me out?
[09:35] <linux_n00b_e> but the truth of the matter is that most GPL solutions are not as robust as the stuf that you have to pay for.
[09:35] <Kyral> WTF?!
[09:35] <Kyral> a microsoft cloak?
[09:35] <owner989> theres lots of junk programs for windows
[09:35] <drobbins> Kyral: yeah yeah yeah
[09:35] <drobbins> :)
[09:35] <Kyral> at least you aren't Balmar or Gates ;P
[09:35] <EY> does anybody know how f-spot works?
[09:36] <drobbins> Kyral: right-o
[09:36] <Kyral> EY: How?
[09:36] <linux_n00b_e> I don't REALLy want to have to pay $1899 for the things that I need to work, but the alternatives for Linux jsut aren't robust enough.
[09:36] <drobbins> anyone know a good email for contacting Mark Shuttleworth?
[09:36] <phadron>  un canale italiano ?
[09:36] <_jason> !it
[09:36] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:36] <Kyral> You want Mark or the Community Council?
[09:36] <owner989> what do you want to discuss drobbins
[09:36] <drobbins> Kyral: Mark
[09:36] <St^Anger^19m> many ppl download illegal versions of the commercial software anyway...
[09:36] <tonyyarusso> linux_n00b_e: I haven't seen much the evidence of that.  Although I haven't learned enough about Gimp to do everything I did in Fireworks yet.
[09:36] <EY> Kyral, where does it store pictures?
[09:36] <Kyral> gimme a sec
[09:36] <linux_n00b_e> Why do you think so many people spend so much time trying to get Wine or pear OS to work?
[09:36] <drobbins> owner989: I want to pass on a resume
[09:36] <phadron> _jason, hi give me a italian chanel of ubuntu please
[09:36] <Kyral> EY $HOME/Photos
[09:36] <tonyyarusso> EY: I ran it once, but didn't do much.
[09:37] <_jason> phadron, Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:37] <phadron> _jason, thanks ;)
[09:37] <JDahl> linux_n00b_e, mostly for gaming, I assume
[09:37] <EY> Kyral, so if i tell it to export pictures from my pictures folder it will create a new one?
[09:37] <St^Anger^19m> _jason: your italian is pretty good ;)
[09:37] <ubun-newbie> i get errors when i run sudo gedit
[09:37] <_jason> St^Anger^19m, thanks ;o
[09:37] <ubun-newbie> ** (gedit:7641): CRITICAL **: gedit_prefs_manager_get_int: assertion `gedit_prefs_manager->gconf_client != NULL' failed
[09:37] <_jason> !botsnack
[09:37] <ubotu> thanks _jason :)
[09:37] <Kyral> EY: If you import from a camera it will put them in there
[09:37] <linux_n00b_e> No not for gaming. To be able to use the programs that they are used to.
[09:37] <Matthew-> when i inter iwconfig wlan0 essid "Name"
[09:38] <St^Anger^19m> _jason: where are u from?
[09:38] <Matthew-> it doesn't change it
[09:38] <Kyral> if you import from a folder it will leave them where they are
[09:38] <ubun-newbie> (gedit:7641): CRITICAL **: gedit_prefs_manager_get_bool: assertion `gedit_prefs_manager->gconf_client != NULL' failed
[09:38] <Matthew-> then i type iwconfig and it says essid off/any
[09:38] <XxFREDdiexX> were can i find a win xp cd crack
[09:38] <_jason> St^Anger^19m, portugal in the US, i just copied the italian thing from ubotu
[09:38] <linux_n00b_e> Let's run it down: apple-great os, but the hardware cost too much.
[09:38] <EY> Kyral, ok. that's kinda silly, it should let me specify where i want the pictures stored.
[09:38] <St^Anger^19m> oh ic lol
[09:38] <LoPMX> hello
[09:38] <tonyyarusso> Matthew-: Does it tell you anything else?
[09:38] <LoPMX> linux_n00b_e: i must agree
[09:38] <linux_n00b_e> Windoze: Horrible os and most of the hardware sucks UNLESS you build it yourself.
[09:39] <zwnj> where's the famous *nmap* in breezy?
[09:39] <jasonjdp> anybody know how to make it so i dont get this error "cant change attributes, disk is read only" when i try to change permissions on a ntfs drive so i can access it over samba?
[09:39] <LoPMX> linux_n00b_e: OS X is the best unix based system nowadays
[09:39] <Kyral> zwnj: sudo apt-get install nmap
[09:39] <phadron> how can I start my adsl connection with Ubuntu ?
[09:39] <St^Anger^19m> OS X has a pretty GUI...that's all it has over Linux
[09:39] <zwnj> Kyral: i searched with synaptic, but it's not there!
[09:39] <linux_n00b_e> Linux: great OS, but for the average users too confusing. Too high a lerning curve.
[09:39] <hippytyre> ello everybody
[09:39] <MAPD> hi
[09:39] <william> hello
[09:39] <MAPD> anyone knows a good control panel?
[09:39] <MAPD> like cpanel?
[09:39] <tonyyarusso> zwnj & Kyral: What is nmap?
[09:39] <JDahl> jasonjdp, ntfs write support is not included in the Ubuntu kernel, AFAIK
[09:40] <Kyral> ubotu tell zwnj about repos
[09:40] <linux_n00b_e> What you fail to understand about Apple is that OS X IS Unix.
[09:40] <meuserj|work> tonyyarusso, port scanner
[09:40] <zwnj> Kyral: i have breezy, breezy-updates, breezy-security, breezy-backports
[09:40] <hippytyre> just installing ubuntu for the first time on my laptop :D
[09:40] <william> exit
[09:40] <tonyyarusso> Ah.
[09:40] <dragoon> morning
[09:40] <phadron> any italians ?
[09:40] <meuserj|work> zwnj, do you universe and multiverse ?
[09:40] <zwnj> meuserj|work: yep
[09:40] <hedonick> phadron: try #ubuntu-it
[09:40] <linux_n00b_e> yes, the GUI looks completely different and yes, it does use a different proccessor for right now...
[09:40] <_jason> linux_n00b_e, if you stick someone who has never used a computer in front of windows it will be just as foreign as linux
[09:40] <drobbins> ho hum
[09:40] <LoPMX> phadron: click Start on bottom left, choose Connect With: Adsl
[09:40] <linux_n00b_e> but basically it's UNIX
[09:41] <phadron> hedonick, I am in that chanel
[09:41] <LoPMX> ;] 
[09:41] <Kyral> sorry
[09:41] <tonyyarusso> _jason: Very true.  I've seen my grandma try.
[09:41] <EY> Kyral, i'll stick with gthumb :-)
[09:41] <linux_n00b_e> This is true...
[09:41] <phadron> LoPMX,  have you Ubuntu ?
[09:41] <owner989> drobbins this link may help http://www.ubuntulinux.org/employment/document_view
[09:41] <Kyral> drobbins: its odd for a guy with a MS Cloak to come in and ask for sabdfl's addy
[09:41] <zwnj> meuserj|work: main restricted universe multiverse for all repos
[09:41] <LoPMX> phadron: yup
[09:41] <phadron> LoPMX, I want my adsl starts at boot of Ubuntu
[09:41] <meuserj|work> zwnj, hmmm....
[09:41] <XxFREDdiexX> were can i get a win xp cd key
[09:41] <St^Anger^19m> so why does Win rule the market ? :(
[09:41] <drobbins> Kyral: we normally talk on irc so I don't have a good email
[09:41] <Kyral> ah :P
[09:41] <Kyral> okay
[09:42] <gnomefreak> XxFREDdiexX,  try #windows
[09:42] <LoPMX> XxFREDdiexX: serials.ws
[09:42] <hedonick> tonyyarusso: and then you have the pleasure of trying to explain adware/spyware to your grandma... that should go over well :)
[09:42] <Kyral> soryr I just have alarms going off
[09:42] <LoPMX> marcin_: czesc!
[09:42] <tonyyarusso> St^Anger^19m: Illegal monopolistic operations, like the courts found.
[09:42] <meuserj|work> XxFREDdiexX, not here...
[09:42] <St^Anger^19m> tonyyarusso: lolll
[09:42] <St^Anger^19m> ok
[09:42] <linux_n00b_e> lol!
[09:42] <yuri> hey... need somemore help with mounting that partition... It mounted fine but it won'y let me write to it
[09:43] <HrdwrBoB> St^Anger^19m: it doesn't rule the world, it's a whole lot more complex than that
[09:43] <drobbins> Kyral: well, I'm previously of Gentoo...
[09:43] <zwnj> meuserj|work: also tried apt-get now: E: Couldn't find package nmap
[09:43] <tonyyarusso> hedonick: I don't even think she was planning to go online with it; just word process.  (She predates the discovery of the neutron; baby steps.)
[09:43] <Kyral> drobbins: sorry my friend I overreacted
[09:43] <St^Anger^19m> firefox is a classic example of how OpenSource software can be better than the competition
[09:43] <St^Anger^19m> OpenOffice is very close
[09:43] <drobbins> Kyral: no problem
[09:43] <St^Anger^19m> IDE's like Eclipse and NetBeans are great
[09:44] <florian> and apache
[09:44] <tonyyarusso> yuri: even with the rw in the line?
[09:44] <linux_n00b_e> Basically I'm saying that as Linux users we need to start being a little more realistic in how we see other computer users
[09:44] <delta> Hi. I'm having trouble with meld. Is there a way to install a working copy?
[09:44] <St^Anger^19m> Apache is awesome too
[09:44] <tonyyarusso> yuri: See if you can check the mount point's directory permissions maybe.
[09:44] <HrdwrBoB> linux_n00b_e: as useless fleshbags to fill space *ahem*
[09:44] <St^Anger^19m> but the linux OS interface, as such...has some work to be done
[09:44] <yuri> /dev/hda5	/media/ext3st	ext3	users,auto,rw 0	0 this is what it looks like
[09:44] <LoPMX> but don't you think that linux world needs to, like unite?
[09:44] <HrdwrBoB> no
[09:44] <LoPMX> St^Anger^19m: exactly
[09:44] <yuri> I tried checking those..
[09:44] <JDahl> linux_n00b_e, when I have to use to Windows I feel awkward and encumbered, but I dont really expect Microsoft to change Windows because of that - I am just happy that Linux is an OS that meets my needs, and for that reason I hope it will never become WinXP or OSX
[09:44] <meuserj|work> zwnj, well.. I dont' know... it IS in the archive....
[09:44] <yuri> no avail. they are greyed out
[09:45] <LoPMX> St^Anger^19m: when talking about linux and usability, the przepasc is great between them
[09:45] <hedonick> St^Anger^19m: it also depends on specifics of "better"... how do you find a better cross-architecture compiler than gcc for example
[09:45] <linux_n00b_e> The waht? LoPMX
[09:45] <St^Anger^19m> i only use windows for an OS...90% of my software is open source...the same software i can easily install on linux itself
[09:45] <InfectedFx> Hello everyone
[09:45] <JDahl> linux_n00b_e, why is WinXP universally better because more people are using it?
[09:45] <linux_n00b_e> hello
[09:45] <St^Anger^19m> but when the GUI comes in..i still prefer Win....i admit, i've used win for YEARS so i'm still learning linux
[09:45] <KasperTech> Heeeelp!!!
[09:46] <zwnj> meuserj|work: thanks btw :)
[09:46] <owner989> gnome is better than windows gui
[09:46] <timbalbekov> how do i see if i installed nvidia-glx?
[09:46] <KasperTech> My wireless totally's screwed up :(((
[09:46] <LoPMX> owner989: gimme a break
[09:46] <LoPMX> it is not
[09:46] <St^Anger^19m> owner: why Better?
[09:46] <KasperTech> But the sntallation of
[09:46] <owner989> whats better about win gui lopmx?
[09:46] <yuri> maybe If i restart...
[09:46] <LoPMX> gnome CAN be better
[09:46] <KasperTech> installation of ipw2200 firmware upgrade and driver went perfect :S:S:
[09:46] <gnomefreak> i havent found a thing that windows can do that linux cant as for school well im gonna tell teacher hell no to winblows its been off this pc for a year or so and will stay the hell off
[09:46] <Millenniumgroup> Gnome is better
[09:46] <KasperTech> Pleease?
[09:46] <LoPMX> owner989: RESPONIVNESS for example?
[09:46] <Kyral> Millenniumgroup: no WM war here
[09:46] <meuserj|work> are we infested with Trolls today??
[09:46] <linux_n00b_e> I'm not saying that win is BETTER, i'm saying that as users we need to start thinking more realisticly about the way this OS is percieved  if we want it to be adopted by more users...
[09:46] <owner989> gnome runs responsive on my computer
[09:46] <_jason> you guys mind taking the OS talk to offtopic, I'm having a hard time following the questions
[09:46] <HrdwrBoB> 'better' is all relative, and in any case, a few uninformed opinions on IRC aren't likely to ever change anything
[09:47] <meriad> anyone here know the monitor speciations for a toshiba satellite 3000 monitor?
[09:47] <Millenniumgroup> sorry guys.. I'll stay on topic :)
[09:47] <St^Anger^19m> gnomefreak: its not what Linux can do and WIn cant....the difference is in HOW things are donee
[09:47] <Kyral> I personally prefer Fluxbox :D
[09:47] <LoPMX> owner989: but windows is more responsibe, let's you use more advanced effects without any performance drop
[09:47] <linux_n00b_e> Sorry, I started it, I apologize.
[09:47] <InfectedFx> DOes anyone knows how can I enable toe  Enlightenment on my ubuntu, I installit but I cannot choose from the session windows
[09:47] <owner989> lopmx, gui effects in windows is known to have a performance drop so you are wrong there
[09:47] <tag> do any .deb packages in breezy give me the org.w3.dom java package?
[09:47] <gnomefreak> what difference does it make how it gets done as long as it gets done :)
[09:48] <St^Anger^19m> win gui is snappier on my machine...
[09:48] <linux_n00b_e> true
[09:48] <LoPMX> InfectedFx: just run normally, in term execute enlightenment and say yes few times
[09:48] <St^Anger^19m> that's as far as facts are for me
[09:48] <owner989> lopmx maybe you need to install the right video card driver for ubuntu
[09:48] <linux_n00b_e> @gnomefreak
[09:48] <LoPMX> owner989: maybe i do? ;] 
[09:48] <tonyyarusso> yuri and Kyral: Just as a pondering, could yuri just use defaults for the options?
[09:48] <delta> Sorry, will there be a new meld version soon?
[09:48] <LoPMX> look
[09:48] <InfectedFx> thats the problem LoPMX  how can I do that?
[09:48] <Ninjaa> hi peps, can anyone help me with a realplayer install ?
[09:48] <gnomefreak> ever try to change the desktop on windows? oops you cant :)
[09:48] <LoPMX> just read a bit on xorg, they even say that xwindow needs being rebuilt
[09:48] <owner989> what card do you have infectedfx
[09:48] <linux_n00b_e> lol
[09:48] <St^Anger^19m> themexp yes u can
[09:49] <owner989> it depends which card you have lopmx
[09:49] <InfectedFx> well owner989  i was trying to install E17
[09:49] <InfectedFx> but I thinks there is a problems with it
[09:49] <tag> I have xerces but for some reason that's not giving me org.w3.dom
[09:49] <Kyral> St^Anger^19m: its standard equipment in Linux :D
[09:49] <InfectedFx> LoPMX, just type  Enlightenment on term>?
[09:49] <linux_n00b_e> But you know what, I'm a programmer and I don't use the other desktops. I just use one...
[09:49] <St^Anger^19m> Kyral: true...but somehow i'm comfy with Win GUI
[09:49] <Kyral> St^Anger^19m: we all were
[09:49] <LoPMX> InfectedFx: ye, but in lower caps
[09:49] <St^Anger^19m> and very uneasy with KDE/GNOME
[09:49] <InfectedFx> ok
[09:49] <InfectedFx> gotta LoPMX
[09:49] <Kyral> Then try something like XFCE
[09:49] <Ninjaa> I need to run the "chmod a+x RealPlayer10GOLD.bin" command and the file is on my desktop ???
[09:50] <gnomefreak> xfce is very very nice desktop
[09:50] <Kyral> Ninjaa: the Desktop is just a dir
[09:50] <St^Anger^19m> any screenies?
[09:50] <LoPMX> InfectedFx: btw. what are new features in E17?
[09:50] <feugan3333> If I add a logical partition with fdisk of cfdisk, is it possible to choose where the partition gets created. When I create the partition it always gets created at /dev/hda7 instead of /dev/hda12 which is where I want it.
[09:50] <Fujitsu> Ninjaa, to make it executable, yes.
[09:50] <tonyyarusso> So I'm looking through https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba, and someone has added a comment of (((Q: I don't have a 'Windows Networking' section, only Hostname and Domain-name. What do I do now?))), which is also my situation.  There is no answer posted yet; anyone have one?
[09:50] <gnomefreak> want light weight go with one of the box desktops
[09:50] <InfectedFx> LoPMX,  to be honest with u.. I like the enviroment thats all
[09:50] <dave_> Ninjaa: cd /home/user/Desktop
[09:50] <Ninjaa> how would i rewrite the command then, given its on my desktop
[09:50] <Kyral> Fluxbox owns
[09:50] <dave_> Ninjaa: cd /home/user/Desktop
[09:50] <Ninjaa> ooo sorry wasen't looking.
[09:50] <Kyral> Ninjaa: cd ~/Desktop
[09:51] <LoPMX> lol, why is Fluxbox said to be so cool? ;] 
[09:51] <gnomefreak> black box is pretty much same as fluxbox
[09:51] <St^Anger^19m> the one desktop environment that should be worked upon and brought to mainstream is xpDE IMHO
[09:51] <LoPMX> maybe im just too much into eyecandy :P
[09:51] <gnomefreak> LoPMX, its very light weight
[09:51] <gnomefreak> and fast
[09:51] <Kyral> St^Anger^19m: Mezzo
[09:51] <owner989> those are only good for low memory computers imho
[09:51] <Kyral> and endlessly customizable
[09:51] <LoPMX> St^Anger^19m: nah, xfce should
[09:51] <Fujitsu> Blackbox is good as well.
[09:51] <Kyral> NO WM WARS!! ;P
[09:52] <LoPMX> Blackbox is good as hell.
[09:52] <Ninjaa> Dave_ i get this error, "bash: cd/home/user/Desktop: No such file or directory"
[09:52] <St^Anger^19m> xfce looks like Mac OS from some pics i'm seeing
[09:52] <LoPMX> =)
[09:52] <Fujitsu> WM Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Gnome
[09:52] <Kyral> Ninjaa: the comamnd is cd ~/Desktop
[09:52] <gnomefreak> lol
[09:52] <LoPMX> St^Anger^19m: well, it's too gtk2-ish
[09:52] <St^Anger^19m> Mezzo looks fine....but i doubt its practical
[09:52] <str8edge> is anyone else having problems with beagle?
[09:52] <tonyyarusso> Ninjaa: Did you actually put in in like that, or change user to your username?
[09:53] <Fujitsu> str8edge, mine is fine.
[09:53] <str8edge> Fujitsu: hoary, breezy or dapper?
[09:53] <gnomefreak> warty lol
[09:53] <tonyyarusso> Ninjaa: Plus there should be a space after cd, but I assume that was just a typo in here.
[09:53] <str8edge> :)
[09:53] <Rubix-Cube> when im SSH'ng to my pc from a remote box.. how can i download files?
[09:53] <Fujitsu> breezy, str8edge.
[09:53] <str8edge> Rubix-Cube: scp
[09:54] <str8edge> Fujitsu: Thanks!
[09:54] <chrisx1> Rubix-Cube, or wget to download from internet
[09:54] <Rubix-Cube> str8edge scp <filename> ?
[09:54] <LoPMX> Rubix-Cube: no, scp --help
[09:54] <Fujitsu> Rubix-Cube, no. scp--help
[09:54] <Fujitsu> Oops.
[09:54] <LoPMX> lol
[09:55] <chrisx1> whats the package for xfce desktop
[09:55] <Ninjaa> ok im now on, :~/Desktop$
[09:55] <Ninjaa>  but "/RealPlayer10GOLD.bin" dosent find anything. (sorry im really new to this)
[09:55] <gnomefreak> xubuntu-desktop
[09:55] <LoPMX> chrisx1: xubuntu-desktop
[09:55] <WinZ> Hi! Anybody can answer me, where are files with tasks of Evolution take place?
[09:55] <Rubix-Cube> Fujitsu ubuntu@ubuntu:~/Desktop/Downloads/Sounds/Canibus$ scp 01_33_3's_-_Mind_Control_-_Canibus.mp3
[09:55] <Rubix-Cube> >
[09:55] <Fujitsu> No.
[09:55] <str8edge> Rubix-Cube: man scp at a prompt.. you need to include some user id and remote host stuff
[09:55] <gnomefreak> chrisx1,  sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[09:55] <chrisx1> LoPMX, Ta
[09:55] <Rubix-Cube> str8edge can you give me thru that?
[09:55] <tonyyarusso> Ninjaa: ./Real....
[09:56] <chrisx1> yer i know gnomefreak just forgot package name
[09:56] <Fujitsu> scp fujitsu@shoudou:/home/fujitsu./afile ./directory
[09:56] <Fujitsu> Oops.
[09:56] <tonyyarusso> Ninjaa: Just the slash without the preceeding dot would say it is in the root directory.
[09:56] <Fujitsu> /home/fujitsu/afile, no dot.
[09:56] <Rubix-Cube> what im looking for here guys, is that i want a command to download an mp3 file to a friend's pc using ssh.. whats the command exactly
[09:56] <St^Anger^19m> is XFCE snappier than gnome/
[09:56] <St^Anger^19m> ?
[09:56] <Fujitsu> That would get the file /home/fujitsu/afile from server shoudou, user fujitsu, and put it in ./directory.
[09:56] <LoPMX> St^Anger^19m: is, simplier
[09:56] <Fujitsu> St^Anger^19m, in most cases.
[09:56] <gnomefreak> St^Anger^19m, its a bit faster
[09:57] <feugan3333> Rubix-Cube: man scp
[09:57] <chrisx1> Rubix-Cube, hang on ill tell u in pm
[09:57] <str8edge> Rubix-Cube: scp user@host:/full path to filename/filename filename
[09:57] <vbgunz> !mbr
[09:57] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, vbgunz
[09:57] <tonyyarusso> Ninjaa: You'll also have to make sure you have permissions to this file (sometimes an issue with a downloaded binary).
[09:57] <vbgunz> !windows
[09:57] <ubotu> windows is probably unnecessary, everything runs in Linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office or find an !alternative, or what you remove to make room for kubuntu
[09:57] <punkrockmcduck> does anybody know anything about errors during breezy install?
[09:57] <feugan3333> !freebsd
[09:57] <ubotu> Not a clue, feugan3333
[09:58] <florian> xen and windows doesnt really work ;)
[09:58] <_jason> !anyone
[09:58] <St^Anger^19m> can xpde be installed on ubuntu
[09:58] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[09:58] <St^Anger^19m> ?
[09:58] <vbgunz> I am about to overwrite my MBR... this will wipe out Grub... How do I restore Grub?
[09:58] <Rubix-Cube> str8edge let's support i want to download x.mp3 located at /home/ubuntu/mp3/x.mp3 whats the command?
[09:58] <gnomefreak> ^5 ubotu
[09:58] <tonyyarusso> punkrockmcduck: I know that I got some, shut down, left it overnight, and tried again this morning and it was happy.
[09:58] <Fujitsu> Rubix-Cube, what server, username?
[09:58] <str8edge> scp userid@server:/home/ubuntu/mp3/x.mp3 x.mp3
[09:58] <punkrockmcduck> odd. everyone i gave ubuntu cds to is getting install errors, even had some myself.
[09:59] <Rubix-Cube> Fujitsu server pass ubuntu@212.36.210.6
[09:59] <punkrockmcduck> i just downloaded the iso and burned some fresh ones to see if it was just a problems with the ones they shipped me...
[09:59] <chrisx1> punkrockmcduck, i had a few problems with mine
[09:59] <Fujitsu> You getting a file to/from the server?
[09:59] <punkrockmcduck> thought someone here might know something about it.
[09:59] <gnomefreak> punkrockmcduck,  if you can be less general we might be able to help
[09:59] <chrisx1> i had few cds the install was kinda different on another pc
[10:00] <Rubix-Cube> Fujitsu i want to get a file from the server
[10:00] <Rubix-Cube> Fujitsu check this ->ubuntu@ubuntu:~/Desktop/Downloads/Sounds/Canibus$ sudo scp ubuntu@212.36.210.6:/home/ubuntu/Desktop/Downloads/Sounds/01_33_3's_-_Mind_Control_-_Canibus.mp3
[10:00] <Rubix-Cube> >
[10:00] <punkrockmcduck> i don't remember, it's been a week...it was an error while trying to copy files to the hard drive.
[10:00] <gnomefreak> what errors are you getting and where did you get the cds?
[10:00] <LoPMX> punkrockmcduck: probably problems with hdparm
[10:00] <punkrockmcduck> i got the cds from shipit
[10:00] <vbgunz> i got... if you overwrite the grub, insert the install CD and enter the switch "rescue"... then at the next prompt enter "grub-install /dev/hda"...
[10:00] <Fujitsu> scp, you need to specify a path to put it in afterwards.
[10:00] <Ninjaa> i get this ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: ca nnot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:00] <Fujitsu> Like .
[10:00] <tonyyarusso> punkrockmcduck: I had that one.  I hadn't made enough room in /var.
[10:01] <punkrockmcduck> i'm just using one partition and the swap.
[10:01] <tonyyarusso> punkrockmcduck: So space shouldn't be limited?
[10:01] <punkrockmcduck> it's a 30 gig partition
[10:02] <LoPMX> hmmm
[10:02] <LoPMX> i wanna create os x clone
[10:02] <tonyyarusso> punkrockmcduck: Have you tried running it again from the beginning since the error, to see if it was just a fluke?
[10:02] <punkrockmcduck> yeah
[10:02] <punkrockmcduck> i did it two or three times and got the same error
[10:02] <LoPMX> anyone interested in creating window manager? ;] 
[10:03] <punkrockmcduck> trying to copy the same file
[10:03] <punkrockmcduck> I honestly think the cds that they shipped me are corrupt because all of my friends that I gave them to have similar problems
[10:03] <St^Anger^19m> kde has got the best colours....gnome has got the best organization........why not make a mix?
[10:03] <punkrockmcduck> is there some way to check the integrity of the cds before installing?
[10:03] <Rubix-Cube> Fujitsu ubuntu@ubuntu:~/Desktop/Server/ircd$ sudo scp ubuntu@212.36.210.6:/home/ubuntu/Desktop/Downloads/Sounds/01_33_3's_-_Mind_Control_-_Canibus.mp3 c:/
[10:03] <tonyyarusso> punkrockmcduck: But you said you downloaded an iso too?
[10:03] <Rubix-Cube> its not working its just giving me a ">" thingy
[10:03] <punkrockmcduck> I haven't tried that one yet. i was about to.
[10:03] <Fujitsu> Rubix-Cube, c:/? is it a windows box?
[10:03] <punkrockmcduck> i'm just now finishing up the download.
[10:04] <_jason> St^Anger^19m, do you mean actual colors like shades of blue etc?
[10:04] <Rubix-Cube> Fujitsu the one im getting the files from its a ubuntu box.. and the one i want to download the files to is a windows box.
[10:04] <St^Anger^19m> yes
[10:04] <St^Anger^19m> and buttons
[10:04] <St^Anger^19m> and stuff
[10:04] <tonyyarusso> punkrockmcduck: I would definitely check that route, and come back if it persists.
[10:04] <_jason> St^Anger^19m, just use a good theme
[10:04] <Fujitsu> Rubix-Cube, that should work.
[10:04] <St^Anger^19m> i did theme gnome
[10:04] <St^Anger^19m> but kde is just cuter ;)
[10:04] <vniki> someones has an ati video card?
[10:04] <feugan3333> If i have a expended partition on /dev/hda2 is it possible to create a partition on /dev/hda3?
[10:04] <punkrockmcduck> yeah, i really just wanted to know if i wasn't the only person having problems with the cds from shipit
[10:04] <Fujitsu> vniki, yes.
[10:04] <Rubix-Cube> Fujitsu well its not man.. its giving me a ">" and stopping there
[10:04] <jsteidl> vniki: yes
[10:05] <Fujitsu> Wait a sec... Which machine are you executing it on?
[10:05] <vniki> Fujitsu, can u switch on the tv out
[10:05] <Fujitsu> vniki, I don't have a TV-out on mine ^_^
[10:05] <Rubix-Cube> Fujitsu can i pm you with a 3 line command?
[10:05] <chrisx1> How Can I Connect To Windows Shared Folders?
[10:05] <Fujitsu> Rubix-Cube, OK.
[10:06] <jsteidl> chrisx1: use the "connect to server" dialog
[10:06] <LoPMX> chrisx1: you cant... the won
[10:06] <LoPMX> 't let yoou in
[10:06] <vniki> my problem is... when i activate my tvout in my screen sees white
[10:06] <chrisx1> ?
[10:06] <jsteidl> LoPMX: it works here... so its not impossible
[10:06] <vniki> sorry but my english is very bad......
[10:06] <Rubix-Cube> /msg fujitsu et)
[10:06] <Rubix-Cube> * Quits: florian (n=florian@N097P016.adsl.highway.telekom.at)
[10:06] <Rubix-Cube> sorry
[10:06] <tonyyarusso> chrisx1: I wonder if https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba would help.
[10:06] <LoPMX> jsteidl: it is not possible! they bite! i even lost one finger!
[10:07] <chrisx1> i cant install anything atm downloading xfce
[10:07] <jsteidl> LoPMX: lol, i must dissappoint you, at my samba-environment its working good.
[10:07] <jsteidl> but that might depend on the installation
[10:07] <XxFREDdiexX> what file do i execute to run amercians army
[10:07] <vniki> jsteidl u have tvout in your ati video card?
[10:07] <LoPMX> jsteidl: but wasn't you afraid about those big sharp teeth?
[10:07] <Rubix-Cube> Fujitsu one more thing bro.. i have a directory that i cant go into using "cd blah" cause it has spaces in between the dir name
[10:07] <Ninjaa> can anyone help me install realplayer
[10:08] <jsteidl> vniki: nope, sorry
[10:08] <vniki> ;)
[10:08] <Fujitsu> Rubix-Cube, escape the spaces with \
[10:08] <St^Anger^19m> i'm off to sleep...see you guys anothr time...thanks for u rhelp
[10:08] <Rubix-Cube> Fujitsu the folder is called "200 Series" how can i cd to that lcoation?
[10:08] <Fujitsu> cd 200\ Series
[10:08] <jsteidl> jsteidl: i cut them off. but it is a cute little server running linux... so its not the dangerous 2003-best ;DD
[10:08] <yuri> so I still can't write to the partition   "/dev/hda5	/media/ext3st	ext3	users,auto,rw 0	0" is what is in the fstab. Could it be becuase the partition is a logical extension of windows?
[10:08] <jsteidl> i meant LoPMX
[10:08] <XxFREDdiexX> help me execute amercias army
[10:09] <LoPMX> ;] 
[10:09] <Ninjaa>  I get this error ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: ca nnot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:09] <Fujitsu> Ninjaa, install package libstdc++5
[10:09] <skar123> hi, how do i run a x program from within a chroot environment?
[10:09] <Kyral> skar123: the chroot needs to have X installed
[10:10] <Fujitsu> That is what I would have thought, yes.
[10:10] <hippytyre> im new to linux and just installed ubuntu for the first time. Any "must haves" i should install?
[10:10] <Fujitsu> hippytyte, not really.
[10:10] <skar123> Kyral:so X is run from within chroot and in its X, i run the app, with all other gdm/kdm stuff starting?
[10:10] <Kyral> yah I thnk so
[10:10] <hippytyre> alright, ty :D
[10:10] <Kyral> I have little experiance with Chroots
[10:10] <tonyyarusso> yuri: I wouldn't think so.  Try changing the options to just defaults and see what happens.
[10:11] <tonyyarusso> hippytyre: If you have Breezy you can check out Applications > Add Applications and just browse to see if you see anything interesting.
[10:11] <hippytyre> i thought i was gonna have problems with my wireless card, but nope its up and running now downloading updates :D
[10:11] <hippytyre> cheers tonyyarusso ;)
[10:13] <yuri> it still wont work even after i changes it to defaults
[10:13] <timbalbekov> how would i go about configuring my nvidia-glx drivers?
[10:13] <RAW-mEAT> what means that.. when i try to install the nvidiadriver from nvidia.com it says always that nvidia.ko is missing or wrong :/
[10:13] <ubuntu_> #ubuntu_channel
[10:13] <Fujitsu> timalbekov, have you tried the guide on the wiki?
[10:14] <timbalbekov> no, can you throw me a link?
[10:14] <Ninjaa> ok i have the installer running, its asking Enter the complete path to the directory where you want
[10:14] <ubuntu_> anyone know how to get past the hotplug subsystem hang up
[10:14] <Ninjaa> RealPlayer to be installed.  You must specify the full
[10:14] <Ninjaa> pathname of the directory and have write privileges to
[10:14] <Ninjaa> the chosen directory.
[10:14] <tonyyarusso> yuri: I suppose it could be because of being with Windows then, I'm not sure.
[10:15] <Ninjaa> wheres the best place for it ?
[10:15] <ubuntu_> its a clean install on a fresh hd
[10:15] <mhues> hello
[10:15] <yuri> ill try turning it into a primary partition. see what happens. but If I have 2 primary partitions on the same HD, won't that mess up my boot?
[10:16] <owner989> no it wont yuri
[10:16] <tonyyarusso> yuri: No, because only one of them with have the boot flag set to on.
[10:16] <LoPMX> wb LoPMX !
[10:16] <owner989> you can have as many primary partitions as you want
[10:16] <yuri> ok. then I'll try that
[10:16] <tonyyarusso> yuri: Shown by a little lightening bolt during the Ubuntu setup, and I think an asterisk in fdisk.
[10:16] <yuri> ok
[10:17] <yuri> appreciate the help as always
[10:17] <learnfromscratch>  i would like to install all packages relating to php.. i am confused about the use of apt-file..  apt-file search php does not return any results ... can some one explain
[10:17] <mhues> hello, I have a question
[10:17] <ubuntu_> do you have any suggestions to get past the hotplug hangup
[10:17] <mhues> not sure if this is the right place to ask
[10:17] <Rubix-Cube> guys please help scp isnt working for me
[10:17] <mhues> I have several partitions that are not currently mounted.
[10:18] <slushpupie> Rubix-Cube: whats the problem?
[10:18] <ubuntu_> i'm new to ubuntu try to use on a new computer i put together, only used it once or twice before but nothing indepth
[10:18] <mhues> I was wondering about ways of founding out what the partitions are
[10:18] <dragoon> how do i specify my colour depth ?
[10:18] <Rubix-Cube> slushpupie i just cant download a file from a unix box to my windows box using SSH
[10:18] <dragoon> you can use scp :)
[10:18] <Ninjaa> guys anyone know what directory i should install realplayer too ?
[10:18] <dragoon> it runs with ssh... use winscp
[10:19] <MickMcMack> Can you get konqueror for Windows.
[10:19] <MickMcMack> That would be awesome - fish. <3
[10:19] <tonyyarusso> mhues: fdisk.
[10:19] <ubuntu_> anyplace i can go to get boot help
[10:19] <mhues> That is what I have been using in the past, is that the only way?
[10:19] <dragoon> cfdisk
[10:20] <tonyyarusso> mhues: No.  There are also similar tools like cfdisk, and who knows what else.
[10:20] <mhues> hahaha
[10:20] <mhues> cfdisk and fdisk are very similar
[10:20] <LoPMX> hmm
[10:20] <LoPMX> any good ruby editor?
[10:20] <odin> What provides libGL.so?
[10:20] <mhues> its that, we could destroy everything on your hard disk thing
[10:21] <some_dude> hey, how do i get wine ?
[10:21] <pawdro> my new compiled kernel 2.6 writes: Kernel panic - not syncing : VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0). How to fix it?
[10:21] <MickMcMack> some_dude, it's called an off-license. >_>;
[10:21] <ubuntu_> is there any professional help i could talk to
[10:21] <MASoft> is there something like NON-FREE in Ubuntu repositories?
[10:21] <some_dude> what ?
[10:21] <dragoon> heh that was easy DefaultDepth 24
[10:22] <tonyyarusso> mhues: All you're doing is reading.  As long as you don't make it do anything, you'll be fine.
[10:22] <Kyral> MASoft: no
[10:22] <solidgroove> pawdro, you might not have ext3 selected as compilied in or module. If its SATA drive it might be something scsi too
[10:22] <erUSUL> LoPMX, emacs ;)
[10:22] <MickMcMack> some_dude, never mind - have you tried sudo apt-get install xwine ?
[10:22] <Ninjaa> guys anyone know what directory i should install realplayer too ?
[10:22] <some_dude> xwine, ok
[10:22] <tonyyarusso> mhues: Although reading the help and man are always a good idea.
[10:22] <pawdro> ive got simple ata disc
[10:22] <Rubix-Cube> slushpupie i just cant download a file from a unix box to my windows box using SSH
[10:22] <MASoft> Kyral, all the applications in Ubuntu repository is Free ?
[10:22] <some_dude> it can't find xwine
[10:22] <erUSUL> odin, mesa or the propietary graphic drivers
[10:22] <LoPMX> erUSUL, hmmm
[10:22] <Kyral> MASoft: pretty much
[10:23] <solidgroove> pawdro, I get an error with gcc 3.4 and 4.0.1 compiling any kernel, fails on malloc.o for sound. Last time I compilied I was missing ext3
[10:23] <erUSUL> MASoft, multiverse get close to that
[10:23] <pawdro> how to check which fs ive got
[10:23] <MASoft> Kyral, for example I need rar and unrar ! are these available ?
[10:23] <solidgroove> pawdro, I get an error with gcc 3.4 and 4.0.1 compiling any kernel, fails on malloc.o for sound. Last time I compilied I was missing ext3\reiser
[10:23] <odin> erUSUL, I have the nvidia drivers, but I installed a game (Decent3) and it can't find libGL.so, any suggestions?
[10:23] <MickMcMack> some_dude, have you got universe and multiverse enabled in your apt source?
[10:23] <Kyral> MASoft: yes
[10:23] <mhues> tonyyarusso: thanks that is what I will use then
[10:24] <Rubix-Cube> solidgroove can you help ??
[10:24] <tonyyarusso> Has anyone tried following the instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion?  There's a line preceeded by "Rename your old profile" that says to cd, but doesn't say where to.
[10:24] <MASoft> Kyral, what about the NVidia module ?
[10:24] <MickMcMack> Rubix-Cube, can you be more specific about the error in downloading?
[10:24] <aleitner> does anybody know exactly what ubuntu-updates is and how it relates to backports?
[10:24] <Kyral> MASoft: yes
[10:24] <bluboi> anyone know how to get past the hotplug subsystem hang up when booting
[10:24] <Kyral> NVidia-GLX
[10:24] <CarinArr> hey.. does anyone know of any problems with the latest kernel and the latest nvidia?
[10:24] <Rubix-Cube> MickMcMack its just not doing anything.. its giving a ">" after the command and i have to input CTRL + C to exit it
[10:24] <CarinArr> cause i just upgraded both and my xserver bugs out
[10:24] <MASoft> Kyral, not just NVidia-GLX, I need the nvidia kernel modules, too
[10:24] <MickMcMack> Rubix-Cube, what _exactly_ are you trying to do?
[10:24] <Kyral> MASoft: thats it
[10:25] <Kyral> you can get the source too
[10:25] <erUSUL> odin, i do not know i own an ati but the nvidia drivers comes with a libGL.so
[10:25] <some_dude> i do now
[10:25] <Rubix-Cube> MickMcMack im trying to download a file from a ubuntu box to a windows box.. which is here using SSH
[10:25] <braniff> what is the 'multiverse' ??
[10:25] <Rubix-Cube> user and host are ubuntu@ubuntu
[10:25] <MickMcMack> Rubix-Cube, so you are on the Windows box or on the Linux box?
[10:25] <erUSUL> !tell braniff about repos
[10:25] <BlueDevil> ubotu tell braniff about repos
[10:25] <odin> erUSUL, Thanks, I'll look and see if I'm missing a package... Where would the so file be?  /lib?
[10:25] <Rubix-Cube> MickMcMack im on the windows box using putty to connect to the linux box
[10:26] <erUSUL> odin, use locate
[10:26] <MickMcMack> Rubix-Cube, have you tried winSCP ?
[10:26] <Rubix-Cube> MickMcMack whats the command for that?
[10:26] <MiSS_n00b> winSCP is cool
[10:26] <erUSUL> odin, i have it in /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2
[10:27] <MickMcMack> Rubix-Cube, gimme 2secs and I'll give you a link
[10:27] <MickMcMack> .
[10:27] <odin> Ok, now I see what the problem could be...I think
[10:27] <hav0k> can someone help me with my grip and mp3 encoding, its giving me an error message when i try to rip
[10:27] <Rubix-Cube> MickMcMack i found a link thanks alot man
[10:27] <MickMcMack> Rubix-Cube, no problem. :)
[10:27] <aleitner> how do i get to the new updated evince package that entered breezy-updates (apparently yesterday)
[10:28] <ubuntu_> list
[10:28] <odin> erUSUL, I have seven different libGL.so's of various versionings and distros...  How do you uninstall using apt-get?
[10:28] <tonyyarusso> Do I have to include something special to get find and locate to include hidden files?
[10:29] <sault|markEH> http://rewardhits.com/index.php?hit=7681
[10:29] <sault|markEH> http://rewardhits.com/index.php?hit=7681
[10:29] <MickMcMack> odin, to uninstall: sudo apt-get remove PACKAGE
[10:29] <MiSS_n00b> !tell MiSS_n00b about nvidia
[10:29] <MiSS_n00b> :P
[10:29] <odin> MickMcMack, Thanks
[10:29] <MickMcMack> MiSS_n00b, what's wrong with your nvidia? O-o
[10:29] <dragoon> apt-get install nvidia-glx
[10:29] <dragoon> :p
[10:29] <yuri> arg.. it didn't work. Still can't write to the partition
[10:29] <erUSUL> odin, apt-get remove <package>
[10:30] <MiSS_n00b> nothing wrong
[10:30] <MiSS_n00b> i have to install drivers again
[10:30] <MickMcMack> yuri, what type of partition?
[10:30] <MickMcMack> MiSS_n00b, funfunfun!
[10:30] <MiSS_n00b> last night i accidentally deleted the usr folder :D
[10:30] <MiSS_n00b> and had to reinstall :(
[10:30] <MickMcMack> MiSS_n00b, just be glad you don't have to build it into your kernel like on some distros. ;-)
[10:30] <MiSS_n00b> he he
[10:30] <yuri> its a primary ext3 partition on my primary HD which also has my windows installation on it. im running ubuntu from my 2nd HD. I managed to mount the drive with fstab but I still can't write to it
[10:30] <erUSUL> MiSS_n00b, 8(
[10:31] <braniff> i can see a package i want (mythtv) on packages.ubuntu.com, but can't see it in synaptic or apt...how do i install it ??
[10:31] <tonyyarusso> yuri: Are we sure Kyral was right about umask only being needed for Fat32?
[10:31] <etnoy> braniff: add repos
[10:31] <MickMcMack> braniff, do you have multiverse and/or universe enabled?
[10:31] <erUSUL> braniff, have you enabled all repos
[10:31] <erUSUL> ?
[10:31] <Madeye> guys, is there anyway to simular MS JVM ?
[10:31] <etnoy> in synaptic - repositories - add and then select universe
[10:31] <MiSS_n00b> hey i have a ntfs primary slave can i formart it somehow so its not readonly
[10:31] <yuri> I dont know, but i'll give it a shot
[10:31] <tonyyarusso> yuri: I think so, I'm just out of ideas.
[10:31] <MickMcMack> yuri, did you mount it as rw ?
[10:31] <odin> I'm confused.
[10:31] <yuri> yea
[10:31] <erUSUL> !tell Madeye about java
[10:31] <MickMcMack> Madeye, MS JVM ? :s
[10:31] <braniff> ohh...universe. i'll try that thanks
[10:31] <fishhead> CAN i POST a url about a sale at a online us store I like alot?
[10:31] <yuri> that didnt work so i mounted it as "defaults"
[10:31] <MickMcMack> There is an MS JVM?
[10:32] <MickMcMack> Since when? :s
[10:32] <myke> hello
[10:32] <odin> libgl1-mesa and nvidia-glx provide the same functionality, right/
[10:32] <myke> how can i update my firefox to 1.5?
[10:32] <MickMcMack> yuri, try sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdBLAH /mountpoint ?
[10:32] <yuri> one sec... lemme try the other thing first
[10:32] <tonyyarusso> myke: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:33] <sorush21> guys hi
[10:33] <jasonjdp> anybody know how to make it so i dont get this error "cant change attributes, disk is read only" when i try to change permissions on a ntfs drive so i can access it over samba?
[10:33] <erUSUL> MickMcMack, from a long time ago
[10:33] <MickMcMack> erUSUL, why would you ever use anything but the real deal in terms of a JVM?
[10:33] <mhues> Is it possible to resize my NTFS partitoins?
[10:33] <erUSUL> jasonjdp, linux odes not have write support for ntfs
[10:34] <chrisx1> is this good
[10:34] <chrisx1>  15:32:43  up 35 days, 19:11,  1 user,  load average: 3.15, 3.04, 2.38
[10:34] <Kyral> mhues: yes
[10:34] <proxosi> hey guys
[10:34] <atrophic> mhues, yes, the installer can do it for you
[10:34] <jasonjdp> ;-(
[10:34] <proxosi> im a beginner in linux and ubuntu
[10:34] <dragoon> ./stepmania: error while loading shared libraries: libmad.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:34] <Fujitsu> Hey proxosi.
[10:34] <proxosi> do u know where firefox is located on the ubuntu?
[10:34] <dragoon> any idea what i need to install ?
[10:34] <jasonjdp> so how do i share it over the network? its root owned...
[10:34] <MiSS_n00b> proxosi: me too!!:D
[10:34] <erUSUL> MickMcMack, if it comes with the Os why would you install the Sun one. that's why sun sued M$
[10:34] <Madeye> eruin, this isn't what i'm looking for, I'm trying to access my netbanking account, and it requires IE I trick the site using firefox agent switcher, but now the site requires MS JVM, I have blackdown installed, No need to install MS JVM or SUN, I just want to fool the browser to get into my account
[10:34] <mhues> I have already installed can I do it now?
[10:34] <sampan> mhues  yes. you can. but be sure you have defraged and have free space at the end of it it just prior to resizing. i forgot that once, and ended out with a busted winxp ;)
[10:34] <MickMcMack> erUSUL, but the Sun one is always the first to get the new updates. :-)
[10:34] <sampan> s/defraged/defragged
[10:34] <yuri> root@ubuntu:/# sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda2 /media/ext3st
[10:34] <yuri> mount: /dev/hda2 already mounted or /media/ext3st busy
[10:34] <yuri> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda2 is already mounted on /media/ext3st
[10:35] <tonyyarusso> proxosi: /usr/bin/firefox and /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox are the places of interest I've found.
[10:35] <Madeye> eruin, ?
[10:35] <mhues> Oh my, I have run out of space on the win side so that i can't defrag
[10:35] <Fujitsu> yuri, then unmount it first.
[10:35] <erUSUL> MickMcMack, joe average user just does not care of such things
[10:35] <yuri> i was just going to try that what is the command?
[10:36] <Fujitsu> umount <device>
[10:36] <MickMcMack> erUSUL, true - until the latest pretty game doesn't work. ;-OOO
[10:36] <chrisx1> is this good
[10:36] <chrisx1>  15:32:43  up 35 days, 19:11,  1 user,  load average: 3.15, 3.04, 2.38
[10:36] <MiSS_n00b> so yeah...can someone plz tell me how i can make my promary slave drive not readonly?
[10:36] <MiSS_n00b> primary*
[10:36] <feugan3333> proxosi: If you put the "which" command in front of a program name, it will give you it's location. eg "which firefox"
[10:36] <MickMcMack> MiSS_n00b, is it mounted as ro ?
[10:37] <MiSS_n00b> i havent mounted it yet i just reinstalled
[10:37] <MiSS_n00b> i dontmind losing all the data on it
[10:37] <hypn0> MiSS_n00b, i'm not sure, but it seems ntfs support is read only
[10:37] <Fujitsu> MiSS_n00b, is it NTFS? If so, it is read only.
[10:37] <erUSUL> MiSS_n00b, if it is ntfs it will be ro
[10:38] <blackvd> I'm looking for a simple program to use to build a web site,anyone know of any easy to use linux progs?
[10:38] <MiSS_n00b> yeah its ntfs, but so was this drive i installed ubuntu on:P
[10:38] <MiSS_n00b> so i cant change it somehow?
[10:38] <Fujitsu> MiSS_n00b, not really, no.
[10:38] <dragoon> partition magic will convert it
[10:38] <Fujitsu> You can only change it by losing all data on it.
[10:38] <jasonjdp> how to i acces the ntfs disk via samba, if i cant change permissions cuz its root owned and ubuntu cant write to the disk?
[10:38] <blue-frog> blackvd, synaptic search nvu or screem
[10:38] <erUSUL> MiSS_n00b, linux can not wrte ntfs partitions period
[10:38] <MiSS_n00b> can i install ubuntu on that drive too and just delete everything?
[10:38] <hypn0> change it to fat32 MiSS_n00b
[10:38] <blackvd> ok thanks
[10:38] <owner989> you shouldnt write to ntfs with linux
[10:38] <tonyyarusso> MiSS_n00b: The key being that the drive you installed Ubuntu on WAS ntfs; it would have been formatted.
[10:38] <Fujitsu> MiSS_n00b, yes.
[10:39] <MiSS_n00b> i cannot revert to fat32 can i?
[10:39] <MickMcMack> What? I am 90% sure there is rw NTFS support for *nix these days.
[10:39] <yuri> console says "unmount" is not a command
[10:39] <chris__> hey guys, im trying to compile zapping on ubuntu but i get the following error "checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[10:39] <chris__> "
[10:39] <owner989> its called captive ntfs mickmcmack
[10:39] <Fujitsu> MickMcMack, experimental.
[10:39] <chris__> what am i dong wrong?
[10:39] <MickMcMack> yuri, umount
[10:39] <MickMcMack> yuri, not unmount
[10:39] <braniff> i still don't see this package (http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/graphics/mythtv) in synaptic, even after adding all of the standard repos....how can i install package mythv ??
[10:39] <Fujitsu> I never did like the sound of captive NTFS.
[10:39] <tonyyarusso> MickMcMack: Okay, it can do it, but Windows will freak out if it uses it later apparently.
[10:39] <feugan3333> chris__: your missing the XML::Parser perl module.
[10:39] <jasonjdp> no way to have an ntfs disk mounted in a linux box and share it over samba?
[10:39] <MiSS_n00b> ok, so that will work? i install ubuntu on primary slave then just delete everything and i will be able to use it?
[10:39] <MickMcMack> owner989, Fujitsu - I only remember because the INSERT live CD (for system recovery) comes with NTFS rw support.
[10:39] <delta> how can I install meld?
[10:39] <MiSS_n00b> :S this is so confusing
[10:40] <yuri> ok i did sudo umount -a and then sudo mount -a and it still wont let me write
[10:40] <nalioth> MiSS_n00b: you'll need grub on your primary drive, to point to ubuntu
[10:40] <chris__> feugan3333: do i type parser perl in synaptic and install?
[10:40] <erUSUL> delta, apt-get install meld (i prefer xxdiff)
[10:40] <mhues> yuri, they lost the n in unmount somewher in Berkley the command is just umount
[10:40] <nalioth> chris__: if you search for the module name, it'll show you the pkg it's in
[10:40] <owner989> some say captive NTFS is safe to use but ive never used it
[10:40] <feugan3333> chris__: You look for XML::Parser in synaptic
[10:40] <owner989> its experimental however
[10:41] <Fujitsu> Yeah.
[10:41] <tonyyarusso> yuri: Then the world is out to get you.  Seriously, I'm out.
[10:41] <delta> erUSUL, I'm worrying which version of meld will be installed. The 1.0.x has an anoying bug
[10:41] <yuri> well... thanks anyways.
[10:41] <chris__> feugan3333: i see libxml-parser-perl, is that it
[10:41] <RageMax> I'm having some problems with cups
[10:41] <Fujitsu> chris__, that's it.
[10:42] <RageMax> I can print from a remote computer fine, but not locally (on the computer that the printer is attatched to)
[10:42] <j-linux> Laptop died just before I got a chance to upgrade to Breezy... Must buy new one today.  Not sure Dell Latitude or ThinkPad.  Linux-on-laptops has strange information...
[10:42] <chris__> thanks guys
[10:42] <erUSUL> delta, check it apt-cache show meld
[10:42] <RageMax> this is what I get in the logs
[10:42] <RageMax> E [07/Dec/2005:16:26:58 -0500]  StartListening: Unable to bind socket for address 7f000001:631 - Address already in use.
[10:42] <mhues> Miss_n00b: its only confussing because the ntfs is a closed standard. and people have to reverse engineer it ot make it work
[10:42] <MickMcMack> MiSS_n00b, just don't use NTFS! :-o
[10:42] <delta> erUSUL, should I type in these lines?
[10:42] <chris__> ...oh yay another error!
[10:43] <mhues> yuri: what are you trying to mount?
[10:43] <yuri> i created the partition with partitionmagic... is there some setting i didnt play with?
[10:43] <delta> erUSUL, Version: 1.0.0-1
[10:43] <MiSS_n00b> how can i make it non ntfs:P
[10:43] <yuri> im trying to mount an ext3 partition
[10:43] <yuri> on a diff hd
[10:43] <Fujitsu> MiSS_n00b, use cfdisk to format the partition.
[10:43] <proxosi> im also trying to mount a partition of ntfs..
[10:43] <yuri> which also has my windows installation, if that makes a diff
[10:43] <proxosi> im on dual boot ... now on ubuntu
[10:43] <Fujitsu> proxosi, what do you want to do?
[10:44] <MiSS_n00b> okay now how exactly do i do that
[10:44] <owner989> proxosi http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[10:44] <Fujitsu> proxosi, NTFS?
[10:44] <proxosi> fujitsu: i have problem mounting..
[10:44] <proxosi> fuji: yes
[10:44] <yuri> i mounted it but i cant write to it
[10:44] <proxosi> fuji: my ubuntu = ext my xp = ntfs.
[10:44] <Fujitsu> proxosi, what is the issue?
[10:45] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell proxosi about NTFS.
[10:45] <MickMcMack> MiSS_n00b, I think you said you were reinstalling, if so - you will be able to reformat the NTFS partition to ext during the install.
[10:45] <proxosi> fuji: try to mount.. but cant access no matter wat... somone said i have to do in roots.. i did it.. but cant see anything.. and told me that i have to be login roots to access it
[10:45] <feugan3333> proxosi: Is that a perl declaration ? :-)
[10:45] <proxosi> feugan: wth is that?
[10:45] <chris__> ok here is another
[10:45] <proxosi> << noob linux
[10:45] <mhues> yuri: which hd?
[10:45] <chris__> "checking for gtk+-2.0 >= 2.4 libgnomeui-2.0 libglade-2.0 gconf-2.0... Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gtk+-2.0' found
[10:45] <chris__> configure: error: Library requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.4 libgnomeui-2.0 libglade-2.0 gconf-2.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them."
[10:45] <Fujitsu> proxosi, it happens to all of us ^_^
[10:45] <mhues> yuri: which partition?
[10:45] <souleh> i cant update my gtk2
[10:45] <MiSS_n00b> i have just reinstalled.  i am wanting to use my primary slave drive as read/write
[10:45] <feugan3333> proxosi: never mind, bad joke :-(
[10:45] <souleh> says size mismatch
[10:45] <Fujitsu> chris__, install gtk+-2.0-dev
[10:46] <yuri> mhues: my primary hd has windows and the ext3 partition. my seconday hd is running ubuntu
[10:46] <hypn0> MiSS_n00b, r u going to be installing windows too?
[10:46] <MiSS_n00b> no
[10:46] <Fujitsu> MiSS_n00b, in a terminal type 'sudo cfdisk'
[10:47] <chrisx1>  15:32:43  up 35 days, 19:11,  1 user,  load average: 3.15, 3.04, 2.38 <- is that good or bad?
[10:47] <Fujitsu> chrisx1, the uptime, or what?
[10:47] <chrisx1> both
[10:47] <MiSS_n00b> its only showing the primary drive
[10:47] <chris__> Fujitsu: i see "gtk2.0-examples" and "gtk2-engines-xfce"
[10:47] <chrisx1> Fujitsu, both
[10:48] <mhues> yuri: did you format the ext3 partiotion?
[10:48] <hypn0> MiSS_n00b, then u dont need ntfs or fat32, ubuntu will reformat it in ext3 i think, which is read/write i belive
[10:48] <yuri> mhues: yes. it is in ext3.
[10:48] <Fujitsu> THat uptime is pretty good chrisx1, although my Sarge server did a fair bit more a while ago, then there was a power failure...
[10:48] <SirKillalot> anyone using a logitech mx 900 here?
[10:48] <chrisx1> Fujitsu, what about load?
[10:48] <chris__> i dont seee gtk+-2.0-dev
[10:48] <MiSS_n00b> but how can i do it
[10:49] <feugan3333> MiSS_n00b: please paste the output of "sudo fdisk -l"
[10:49] <mhues> yuri: I am not completely sure about this but after you set the partition type in fdisk you then still need ot format it
[10:49] <owner989> miss_n00b you can use gparted
[10:49] <owner989> thats a good program
[10:49] <feugan3333> MiSS_n00b: that will help us know what is going on.
[10:49] <dragoon> SirKillalot: im using a mx700
[10:49] <proxosi> ok i think i shud try to manually get flash onto firefox...  i located the file i need to copy to the plugin folder of firefox but it access denied me
[10:49] <dragoon> if it helps
[10:49] <MiSS_n00b> heh where can i paste it
[10:49] <yuri> but when I open it I already have the "lost and found" folder
[10:49] <feugan3333> !pastebin
[10:49] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[10:50] <Fujitsu> yuri, run mke2fs on it
[10:50] <yuri> Fujitsu: how?
[10:50] <mhues> kewl, I didn't know you could do that with fdisk!!!!!
[10:50] <feugan3333> !ubotu
[10:50] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[10:51] <MiSS_n00b> ok its here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5492
[10:51] <Fujitsu> mke2fs <device> as root. It will reformat the partition. Make sure you get it right, or you could destroy everything on any partition.
[10:51] <Fujitsu> I like the error if you start gparted non-root.
[10:51] <yuri> Fujitsu: tahts happy...
[10:52] <feugan3333> MiSS_n00b: No NTFS drive
[10:52] <mhues> Yuri: thats it! thanks fujitsu
[10:53] <MiSS_n00b> well okay but how can i see it in ubuntu
[10:53] <Fujitsu> Heh. No problem.
[10:53] <Fujitsu> MiSS_n00b, instal lgparted.
[10:53] <Fujitsu> * no l.
[10:53] <jcole> i want to build the linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-386 with my custom kernel (need custome kernel for CONFIG_REGPARM=Y) ... can someone point me to a howto?
[10:53] <proxosi> yo i cant write on my usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/ folders
[10:53] <yuri> Fujitsu: Im having some trouble entering the command. can you give me an example?
[10:53] <proxosi> wat wrong?
[10:54] <feugan3333> MiSS_n00b: try cd /media/hdb1
[10:54] <navarone> proxosi, you have to cp the files with sudo
[10:54] <Fujitsu> yuri: sudo e2fs /dev/hda1. But don't do that, it will kill your first partition. Change /dev/hda1 to whatever the partition is.
[10:54] <proxosi> so command lines no gui :( ?
[10:54] <jcole> has anyone here compiled an ubuntu kernel with the restricted modules?
[10:54] <MiSS_n00b> bash: cd: /media/hdb1: No such file or directory
[10:54] <MiSS_n00b> ok how do i install gparted
[10:54] <navarone> yes...should be a reasonable tutorial or how to about
[10:54] <Kyral> jcole: you mean into it?
[10:54] <Fujitsu> navarone, couldn't he sudo nautilus?
[10:55] <proxosi> how can i sudo natilus?
[10:55] <nalioth> Fujitsu: gksudo nautilus, if it is required
[10:55] <feugan3333> MiSS_n00b: You don't need gparted. Just give me a sec
[10:55] <navarone> I guess Fij
[10:55] <navarone> oops Fuji
[10:55] <jcole> proxosi: why do you want to write to that dir?
[10:55] <MiSS_n00b> k
[10:55] <jcole> proxosi: sudo nautilus
[10:55] <proxosi> jcole: i want to install flash manually
[10:56] <feugan3333> MiSS_n00b: first make the directory /dev/hdb1 with "sudo mkdir /media/hdb1"
[10:56] <MiSS_n00b> ok
[10:57] <freenik> gute nacht
[10:57] <x13> Hi all. How can i install ati driver in ubuntu 5.10 amd64, i try BinaryDriverHowto in Wiki but drivers don`t work. This from Xorg log Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.o
[10:57] <x13>  Duplicate symbol rol_long in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.o
[10:57] <x13>  Fatal server error:
[10:57] <x13>  Module load failure
[10:57] <Dreamglider> how do i change my login name in Ubuntu ?
[10:57] <Dreamglider> or username
[10:57] <feugan3333> MiSS_n00b: now you mount the drive with "sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1"
[10:57] <thuurt> hello again
[10:57] <LoPMX> how do i install debian .deb package?
[10:57] <erUSUL> x13, do they work on amd64?
[10:58] <yuri> Fujitsu: ok it formatted but now it says bad fs type when i mount it
[10:58] <erUSUL> Dreamglider, add a new user and delete the old one
[10:58] <Fujitsu> Ahh. I think I know why. Change the ext3 to ext2 for a ssec.
[10:58] <MiSS_n00b> mount: can't find /dev/hdb1/media/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[10:58] <navarone> Lopmx>Cd to directory package is in and sudo dpkg -i <filename>.deb
[10:58] <jcole> navarone Kyral: i want to compile the restricted modules package using my current kernel headers
[10:58] <erUSUL> LoPMX, dpkg -i *.deb (but is better to use apt)
[10:58] <LoPMX> will it work even when it comes to deb?
[10:58] <Dreamglider> easy as that!
[10:58] <graybandit> hello all
[10:58] <LoPMX> debian?
[10:58] <Fujitsu> MiSS_n00b, make sure there is a space between them!
[10:59] <Kyral> jcole: sudo apt-get install module-assistant
[10:59] <feugan3333> MiSS_n00b: your need a space between /dev/hdb1 and /media/hdb1
[10:59] <x13> erUSUL fglrx nop at this moment use vesa driver :P
[10:59] <Kyral> if you have the sourceball
[10:59] <mhues> Miss_n00b: I don't think it will be in fstab unless you included it during the install, or add it later
[10:59] <jcole> Kyral: i know about module-assistant
[10:59] <MiSS_n00b> ok so now what?
[10:59] <Kyral> then you need the source package for the module you want to compile
[10:59] <mhues> Miss_n00b: and only in mtab if it is mounted
[10:59] <Kyral> then m-a will do the rest
[10:59] <licksjp> hello
[10:59] <jcole> Kyral: i want to compile the restricted modules package (linux-restricted-modules) using my current kernel headers
[11:00] <navarone> jcole> if you know about module assistant you know more than me...so I don't think I can help...lol
[11:00] <MiSS_n00b> im so lost :(
[11:00] <yuri> fujitsu: the partition or the fstab entry?
[11:00] <feugan3333> MiSS_n00b: cool now you can use the drive, but we still need to make the drive mount every time
[11:00] <Kyral> jcole: I don't think you can
[11:00] <graybandit> question:  I'm trying to install ubuntu 5.10 on a toshiba laptop.  I burned the ISO cd properly, and have a BLANK drive in the laptop, formatted NTFS, and boot priority set to CD-ROM first...but it boots into Caldera DR-DOS 7.03...
[11:00] <Fujitsu> yuri, the filesystem parameter.
[11:00] <Kyral> you have to get the source packages for the modules you want
[11:00] <MiSS_n00b> ok
[11:00] <feugan3333> MiSS_n00b: now try cd /media/hdb1
[11:01] <harfooz> hi all. I am a new user of Ubuntu. I have uncommented the universe and backports lines in my sources.list. However, I can't find the flashplayer-mozilla plugin.
[11:01] <MiSS_n00b> melz@ubuntu:/media/hdb1$
[11:01] <yuri> fujitsu: i dont know how to do that
[11:01] <yuri> fujitsu: i  used partition magic to make it
[11:01] <BenUrban> is it possible to install ubuntu from an existing linux system without having to reboot into the install environment?
[11:01] <Fujitsu> yuri, you will see ext3 mentioned somewhere, change it to ext2.
[11:01] <chris__> Fujitsu: hey man i got past some errors now it says "checking for python... true
[11:01] <chris__> configure: error: Python.h not found in its standard location
[11:01] <chris__> "
[11:01] <Fujitsu> yuri, wait.
[11:01] <chris__> am i missing a python package?
[11:01] <MickMcMack> harfooz, have you uncommented the multiverse line? (Dunno if needed, but it's always good).
[11:01] <harfooz> I found the swf-player, but not the flashplayer-mozilla package.
[11:02] <Fujitsu> yuri, you are talking about the mke2fs command?
[11:02] <feugan3333> MiSS_n00b: Thats fine, "ls" will show you what's on the drive (probabily nothing)
[11:02] <yuri> fujitsu: yes
[11:02] <Fujitsu> Oh.
[11:02] <MiSS_n00b> oh yayyy
[11:02] <yuri> it killed the partition
[11:02] <Fujitsu> yuri, the partition.
[11:02] <MiSS_n00b> thank u guys
[11:02] <navarone> graybandit...you may havea  ddo on drive...it is bios workaround to allow older bioses see larger drives. Maybe a bios upgrade adn reformat to get rid of ddo...<s> I speak from experience here...happened to me
[11:02] <Fujitsu> yuri, what killed it?
[11:02] <graybandit> ok
[11:02] <Fujitsu> *what killed what
[11:02] <feugan3333> Guys, is there an easy way to do the fstab thing for MiSS_n00b?
[11:02] <MiSS_n00b> will i be able to move file directly to that drive thru ssh from a windoze box?
[11:02] <harfooz> MickMcMack, yes, both universe and the universe multiverse lines are uncommented.
[11:02] <yuri> fujitsu: when i ran mke2fs on it it wont let me mount it anymore
[11:02] <MickMcMack> harfooz, hmmmz.
[11:03] <erUSUL> !windowdrives
[11:03] <ubotu> erUSUL: No idea
[11:03] <erUSUL> !windowsdrives
[11:03] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, windowsdrives is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[11:03] <MickMcMack> harfooz, you aren't on an AMD64, are you?
[11:03] <feugan3333> MiSS_n00b: wait, still need to make sure it loads on every boot.
[11:03] <MiSS_n00b> ok
[11:03] <Gnimsh> hi
[11:03] <yuri> fujitsu: it says "bad fs type"
[11:03] <harfooz> no -- I'm on a Thinkpad t42 with Centrino processor
[11:03] <Fujitsu> yuri, when you mount it, you should see ext3 mentioned in fstab or the command. Change that to ext2.
[11:03] <navarone> graybandit> in my case the ddo bypassed all boot sequence from bios...could not access floppy
[11:03] <yuri> fujitsu: did that and it says it does not exist
[11:03] <graybandit> hm
[11:03] <Fujitsu> yuri, what is the fstab line?
[11:03] <harfooz> I used the 5.10 i386 CD to install with.
[11:04] <BenUrban> is it possible to install ubuntu from an existing linux system without having to reboot into the install environment?
[11:04] <feugan3333> It not NTFS, its ext3
[11:04] <navarone> graybandit, that's why I thought you had similar situation
[11:04] <tonyyarusso> Why would fdisk -l sda not return any output?
[11:04] <MickMcMack> harfooz, gimme a second. ;-)
[11:04] <yuri> fujitsu: "/dev/hda2	/media/ext3st	ext2	users,auto,rw	 0	0"
[11:04] <graybandit> navarone: yeah, it seems to skip booting from the CD-ROM even with that priority set, and DR-DOS is a major pain
[11:04] <tonyyarusso> Gparted sees everything, but fdisk and cfdisk have nothing.
[11:04] <graybandit> navarone: how would I go about updating the bios?
[11:04] <feugan3333> tonyyarusso: run it with sudo
[11:04] <Fujitsu> yuri, install the package gparted.
[11:04] <yuri> already got it
[11:04] <jeed890> tonyyarusso u have to terminal : sudo fdisk -l
[11:05] <Fujitsu> yuri, run it as root.
[11:05] <tonyyarusso> feugan3333 and jeed890: Same result.
[11:05] <mhues> yuri: what is ext3st ?
[11:05] <jeed890> do it then
[11:05] <ph3r> Hey, I'm having trouble viewing my GUI after I log in with gnome. a Error box pops up and a terminal window loads, but no GUI. What's wrong?
[11:05] <tonyyarusso> jeed890: I take it back.
[11:05] <SWAT> bor, ping
[11:05] <harfooz> MickMcMack, I wonder do I need to add the word "multiverse" at trhe end of the two lines for the 'universe' section?
[11:05] <zilog> is it possible to update from ubuntu 5.04 to 5.10 without having to download the CD? I can't find instructions for updating. :?
[11:05] <tonyyarusso> jeed890: If I don't include sda at the end it's okay.
[11:05] <Gnimsh> can someone help me install an nvidia driver to ubuntu please?  I'm following the instructions on the forum but am new to linux
[11:05] <jeed890> ext3 is a type of file system
[11:05] <MickMcMack> harfooz, yes. :)
[11:05] <feugan3333> MiSS_n00b: could you post "sudo cat /etc/fstab" for me?
[11:05] <Fujitsu> Gnimsh, have you seen the wiki instructions?
[11:05] <jeed890> yer its ok
[11:06] <MiSS_n00b> k
[11:06] <yuri> ext3st is just the folder i put it in
[11:06] <Gnimsh> no
[11:06] <BenUrban> is it possible to install ubuntu from an existing linux system without having to reboot into the install environment?
[11:06] <ph3r> Hey, I'm having trouble viewing my GUI after I log in with gnome. a Error box pops up and a terminal window loads, but no GUI. What's wrong?
[11:06] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell Gnimsh about nvidia
[11:06] <Gnimsh> I did !nvidia and the bot spit out a forum link
[11:06] <x13> ph3r look at log`s
[11:06] <Fujitsu> True.
[11:06] <harfooz> MickMcMack, so it's different than what's on http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#fg-gettingstarted
[11:06] <Fujitsu> It didn't previously.
[11:06] <navarone> graybandit> find out what bios you are using...when you boot up it will be on screen...usually Ami or Award and a number which is the version. Check if your bios has an updated version and read about updating or flashing bios.
[11:06] <harfooz> ?
[11:06] <mhues> yeah but what is ext3st ? cause that is what his fstab says
[11:06] <ph3r> x13 logs? What specificly.
[11:06] <Fujitsu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[11:06] <proxosi> i think i messed firefox up
[11:07] <Gnimsh> Fujitsu, what would be my cdrom drive in linux?
[11:07] <graybandit> will do thanks
[11:07] <Gnimsh> that's where I have the driver that I want to install
[11:07] <Fujitsu> Gnimsh, /dev/cdrom is the device. /media/cdrom is where it is mounted.
[11:07] <ph3r> I'm using irssi right now.. So, could you give me instructions on what to do so I can write it down?
[11:07] <Fujitsu> proxosi, what is wrong?>
[11:07] <ph3r> x13
[11:07] <x13> ph3r start here /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:07] <jeed890> in ubuntu linux cd if just undercd rom most of the time
[11:07] <yuri> fujitsu: ok its up and running as root
[11:07] <harfooz> MickMcMack, found it!
[11:07] <harfooz> Thanks!
[11:07] <Gnimsh> so from the terminal window, which would I use?
[11:07] <Fujitsu> yuri, find the partition.
[11:07] <proxosi> fuji: i think i misplace one file
[11:07] <MickMcMack> harfooz, no problem. :)
[11:07] <Fujitsu> Gnimsh, to get to the cd drive?
[11:07] <MiSS_n00b> feugan : http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5493
[11:07] <Silencer> do I need only kernel header to be able to manualy install nvidia new drivers ?
[11:07] <yuri> fujitsu: yep
[11:07] <Fujitsu> proxosi, what is it not doing?
[11:08] <Gnimsh> yes
[11:08] <dragoon> Silencer: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[11:08] <dragoon> all i did - works a treat
[11:08] <linux_n00b_e> Guys I have a question: Anybody know about computer hardware?
[11:08] <Silencer> dragoon,
[11:08] <Silencer> I want new version
[11:08] <proxosi> fuji: attempt to open firefox.. then u see loading in the bar and it just closed by it self
[11:08] <dragoon> ah ok
[11:08] <Dreamglider> making a new user and delete the one i used sucks, i have to reconfigure stuff all over again.
[11:08] <Silencer> that has SLI options
[11:08] <Fujitsu> yuri, right-click, delete it, recreate it as ext3.
[11:08] <navarone> graybandit, when I last upgraded my bios I went to Asus and found updates...my bios was 1004...so I updated to 1006 which I read enables recognizing high drive capacity. Download update adn make boot disk...copy update to floppy and aflash.exe Boot w/floppy...run aflash and follow instructions
[11:08] <dragoon> what about hardware?
[11:08] <Silencer> not the old one 7667
[11:08] <BenUrban> is it possible to install ubuntu from an existing linux system without having to reboot into the install environment?
[11:08] <harfooz> MickMcMack, I'm coming from Debian to Ubuntu for this T42 laptop (never could get wireless to work :-( so I'm learning all the new Ubuntu-centric things.
[11:08] <Fujitsu> proxosi, install the package libstdc++5
[11:08] <MickMcMack> linux_n00b_e, fany being a bit more specific?
[11:08] <yacc> Ok, what is the equivalent of postgresql-server-dev-8.0 in Ubuntu?
[11:08] <MickMcMack> harfooz, I've also come from Debian.
[11:08] <proxosi> fjui: wat that supposed to do?
[11:09] <feugan3333> MiSS_n00b: now "sudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[11:09] <linux_n00b_e> I just opened my box to add more RAm to it and I see that I have room for an extra harddrive....
[11:09] <yatesy> yacc: search for it?
[11:09] <licksjp> hello
[11:09] <MickMcMack> harfooz, well, I still run Debian on my server - but Ubuntu seems to be a lot more desktop friendly.
[11:09] <Fujitsu> proxosi, it is a library that the Mozilla.org build of Firefox requires.
[11:09] <yacc> yatesy: Only debian packages available :(
[11:09] <navarone> graybandit, your update will go similarly
[11:09] <MiSS_n00b> ok
[11:09] <zilog> does anybody know were I can find the update instructions from 5.04 to 4.10?
[11:09] <proxosi> so it didnt come with the linux disc?
[11:09] <Kyral> zilog: that would be a downgrade...
[11:09] <Fujitsu> proxosi, if you run firefox in a terminal, you will see an error specifying that the library cannot be found.
[11:09] <yacc> yatesy: no apt-file either in Ubuntu :(
[11:09] <MickMcMack> feugan3333, did you just say... gedit?
[11:09] <dubz> why go backwards
[11:09] <Fujitsu> vim forever!
[11:09] <licksjp> Is this english only chanel?
[11:09] <jeed890> 5.04 is newer than 4.10 work it out
[11:10] <Fujitsu> licksjp, yes.
[11:10] <proxosi> wat the command to run firefox?
[11:10] <zilog> kyncani, erm... indeed it would... I meant 5.04 to 5.10  :)
[11:10] <feugan3333> MiSS_n00b: and add a line below the line that starts with /dev/hda1 (I'll paste it in a sec)
[11:10] <Fujitsu> proxosi, firefox.
[11:10] <feugan3333> MickMcMack: sure
[11:10] <vectoralpha> hey, I had to recompile my kernel to install official nvidia drivers, there was a conflict with rivafb, and everything went just fine, rebooted into the kernel and everything including the network worked for a  few short seconds, then the network cut out, i tried dhclient to renew the ip, but it would not recieve the offer, although my ifconfig stills shows valid info i just can't connect, like the io for the card is disabled, any ideas?
[11:10] <MiSS_n00b> ok
[11:10] <yatesy> yacc: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/misc/postgresql-8.0 that what you're after?
[11:10] <linux_n00b_e> On the hard drive that's already inside there is a power cord and a grey strip that connects the drive to the computer.
[11:10] <proxosi> libXt.so
[11:10] <myke> hey
[11:10] <zilog> erm... I meant 5.04 to 5.10  :)
[11:10] <mhues> thanks all, seeya later
[11:10] <Gnimsh> brb
[11:10] <proxosi> so i think i gotta replace that only?
[11:10] <myke> how can i install the new firefox?
[11:10] <Fujitsu> proxosi, strange.
[11:10] <Dreamglider> zilog, you should do a dist-upgrade if i remember correct
[11:10] <proxosi> yea i replaced
[11:10] <proxosi> some .so
[11:10] <Fujitsu> proxosi, search for that.
[11:10] <myke> i just got the sources from www.getfirefox.com
[11:10] <licksjp> I installed ubuntu japanese version
[11:10] <MickMcMack> feugan3333, sorry - I'm just bitter about my hippie lecturer forcing HIS favourite apps down our throats. ;-OOO
[11:10] <proxosi> oo how u search in ubuntu?
[11:10] <linux_n00b_e> I want to put in another drive that I have, but I don't see an extra gre3y strip.
[11:10] <licksjp> It's good
[11:10] <Milk_> is there a GUI for searching for a file.. or something within nautilus?
[11:11] <yatesy> aptitude search, apt-cache search
[11:11] <jeed890> just get discs for 5.10 it should detect 5.04 and ungrade it for you
[11:11] <linux_n00b_e> Any ideas?
[11:11] <erUSUL> !tell zilog about breezy
[11:11] <yatesy> using synaptic
[11:11] <zilog> Dreamglider, on the command line? and that's it?
[11:11] <yatesy> theres loads of ways :P
[11:11] <Fujitsu> linux_n00b_e, there is generally an extra connector on the grey cable.
[11:11] <dubz> milk -- just use locate
[11:11] <proxosi> fuji: how do i search in ubuntu?
[11:11] <navarone> Milk>Places in the top menu
[11:11] <Dreamglider> zilog, yes it should be all
[11:11] <Milk_> dubz,  I love the CLI as much as any other, but that doesn't answer my question
[11:11] <yatesy> proxosi: i just said if you read :P
[11:11] <erUSUL> proxosi, locate or places>search
[11:11] <linux_n00b_e> The black thing that connects to the hard drive?
[11:11] <MickMcMack> BenUrban, emacs scares me. :(
[11:11] <zilog> Dreamglider, well, I can do that. Cheers.  :)
[11:11] <Milk_> navarone, I don't see a search there
[11:12] <BenUrban> nano, gedit, drpython
[11:12] <yuri> fujitsu: arg. im gonna have to work on this later im running late. thanks for your help. Ill mess around with gparted when i get back
[11:12] <dubz> milk -- under places ..search for files.make sure you've updatedb
[11:12] <navarone> you don't have Search for files in places?
[11:12] <BenUrban> SPE if it worked fully :/
[11:12] <Fujitsu> Bye yuri.
[11:12] <jeed890> linux_n00b_e wot u on about?
[11:12] <yuri> fujitsu: thanks for your help
[11:12] <MickMcMack> BenUrban, if you use nano, not pico, you are a fiend! A FIEND ses I. :-OOO
[11:12] <feugan3333> MiSS_n00b: "/dev/hdb1       /media/hdb1               ext3    defaults,users "
[11:12] <MiSS_n00b> ok
[11:12] <Milk_> dubz, hrm.. I don't see a search option.. hrm..
[11:12] <Fujitsu> VIM FOREVER!
[11:12] <MickMcMack> Fujitsu, AMEN.
[11:12] <Fujitsu> Milk_, which version.
[11:12] <MickMcMack> BenUrban, I am only kidding. :(
[11:13] <Milk_> Fujitsu, breezy
[11:13] <feugan3333> MiSS_n00b: keep the tabs the same as the above line
[11:13] <Kyral> Emacs BITCH ;P
[11:13] <vectoralpha> fujitsu vim is the way
[11:13] <Fujitsu> Odd, Milk_.
[11:13] <linux_n00b_e> Once I get the drive connected, how do I get ubuntu to recognize it with out having to re-install the OS?
[11:13] <ydnar> hello
[11:13] <Kyral> Emacs!
[11:13] <NeoNmaNDK> hallo all... can i hav small help to install Java compilere and Java develpor tool ?
[11:13] <dubz> vim is the way forward
[11:13] <Fujitsu> VIm is the way.
[11:13] <phiz__> is there a way to use the ubuntu install cd as a rescue disk?
[11:13] <Fujitsu> VIm is better than sliced bread!
[11:13] <MickMcMack> :O
[11:13] <Kyral> By the Church of Emacs and Saint IGNUicous!
[11:13] <erUSUL> Fujitsu, no need to shout you vim zealot XD (and btw use emacs) XXXDDD
[11:13] <MiSS_n00b> ok done
[11:13] <saber> Hello
[11:13] <erUSUL> !editor
[11:13] <ubotu> erUSUL: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[11:13] <MickMcMack> I got shouted at by said lecturer for using vim once. -_-
[11:13] <dubz> hello VIm is better then cheese
[11:13] <navarone> Vim is nice but vigour is pretty hadny too...lol
[11:13] <Fujitsu> Let us wage a holy war on Emacs!
[11:13] <Kyral> Crap!
[11:14] <dubz> argv i hate emacs
[11:14] <BenUrban> navarone: it's spelled "vigor"
[11:14] <jeed890> can anybody help me with a boot problem?
[11:14] <BenUrban> jeed890: probably ;)(
[11:14] <vectoralpha> fujitsu i had a bit of an issue with network after kernel rebuild and reboot..., it worked for a short while, and then cut out..., any ideas?
[11:14] <Fujitsu> erUSUL, ubotu is nice, no?
[11:14] <navarone> BenC, you must be American...<s>
[11:14] <Milk_> jeed890, whats the problem?
[11:14] <BenUrban> BenC?
[11:14] <navarone> BenUrbna rather
[11:14] <Kyral> Okay </EDITORWAR>!
[11:14] <aaron> whats does it do better than vi?
[11:14] <Fujitsu> WHat happens when you reboot again, vectoralpha?
[11:14] <feugan3333> MiSS_n00b: then save, and we should be done. After reboot the drive should appear in the Places menu.
[11:14] <yatesy> syntax hilighting :P
[11:14] <Fujitsu> aaron, everything!
[11:14] <proxosi> hmmm so i have libxt.so.6.0.0  and libxt.so.6 in usr/lib and /usr/lib32
[11:14] <Kyral> Tetris built in, 'nuff said
[11:14] <mhues> although emacs is a nice operating system that edits, I prefer it over vi, vim, or elvis
[11:14] <BenUrban> lmao'
[11:14] <Fujitsu> syntax highlighting is great!
[11:14] <MiSS_n00b> ok cool thank you very much feugan :D
[11:15] <navarone> nice...tetris built in...lol
[11:15] <linux_n00b_e> Once I get the second drive installed, how do I go about reformatting it?
[11:15] <BenUrban> mhues: emacs doesn't include a kernel....
[11:15] <Kyral> *STOP THE EDITOR WAR NOW!!* ;P
[11:15] <feugan3333> MiSS_n00b: No problem
[11:15] <yacc> yatesy: Probably not. I need the server developement headers.
[11:15] <jeed890> im running 5.04 dual boot with xp when i boot up i can get into xp but when i try to boot ubuntu it does not work
[11:15] <NeoNmaNDK> #linuxin.dk
[11:15] <erUSUL> Kyral, do not forget the doctor emacs ;)
[11:15] <dubz> this is whats wrong with emacs ctrl + everything does different stuff
[11:15] <feugan3333> MiSS_n00b: Test it with a reboot :-)
[11:15] <Vekelar> hi
[11:15] <vectoralpha> fujitsu everything comes up fine, i get into kde network works for a few short seconds, then it cuts out, no help with dhclient, and though my ifconfig is still good i can't connect to anything
[11:15] <jeed890> any ideas?
[11:15] <yatesy> yacc: how about http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/libs/postgresql-8.0-plr then
[11:15] <Vekelar> anyone has been able to configure an integrated bluetooth on laptop?
[11:15] <yacc> yatesy: Not the normal server, but the headers needed to compile server extensions against.
[11:15] <Fujitsu> vectoralpha, have you tried to bring it up/down using the command line?
[11:15] <BenUrban> is it possible to install ubuntu from an existing linux system without having to reboot into the install environment?
[11:15] <navarone> vector> are you usinf a usb modem?
[11:16] <yatesy> yacc: just look at http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=postgresql&searchon=names&subword=1&version=breezy&release=all and see if any of that helps :)
[11:16] <Fujitsu> BenUrban, unlikely.
[11:16] <jeed890> anybody?
[11:16] <BenUrban> Fujitsu: why not?
[11:16] <Fujitsu> BenUrban, it is fiendishly difficult... Or it should be.
[11:16] <vectoralpha> fujitsu am about to, but that may only temporarily resolve it, but I will go check
[11:16] <jeed890> fujitsu u can but not with ubuntu
[11:16] <feugan3333> wow, helping MissN00b was harder than I thought! :-)
[11:16] <BenUrban> Fujitsu: my other linux is gentoo...it's not that difficult ;)
[11:16] <jeed890> some others linux os's can do that
[11:17] <vectoralpha> fujitsu ty
[11:17] <MickMcMack> BenUrban, you could do it in qemu! :-O!
[11:17] <pc22> whats the difference between fluxbox and gnome?
[11:17] <proxosi> fujitsu: i have 2 copies of libxt.so.6.0.0  and libxt.so.6     in    /usr/lib and /usr/lib32
[11:17] <linux_n00b_e> Anybody know how to reformat a second  harddrive thats been added to a box?
[11:17] <BenUrban> and btw gentoo can do that
[11:17] <BenUrban> with no problem
[11:17] <MickMcMack> pc22, one's a WindowManager, one's a Desktop Environment...
[11:17] <Fujitsu> pc22, about 200 megabytes/
[11:17] <mhues> benurban, you could image the disk with dd
[11:17] <BenUrban> linux_n00b_e: the same way you formatted the first one
[11:17] <jeed890> linux_n00b_e u want to partition it
[11:17] <Dreamglider> zilog, any luck ?
[11:17] <BenUrban> mhues: image what disk?
[11:18] <Necrocide> I might got a stupid question, but how do I add a trashcan to the desktop that works like a trashcan and shows an emtpy icon when its emtpy, and a full icon when its full?
[11:18] <yacc> yatesy: It's curious, the search, when I enter postgresql source package, finds all packages derived from that source. All packages are there, just postgresql-server-dev-8.0 is displayed without a link.
[11:18] <linux_n00b_e> I formated the original hard drive during the install. Now I want to add a second hard drive to the box that I already installed Ubuntu on....
[11:18] <Vekelar> anyone has abeen able to make work an integrated bluetooth?
[11:18] <Fujitsu> BenUrban: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/FromAnotherDistro
[11:18] <BenUrban> ooh thanks
[11:18] <feugan3333> linux_n00b_e: do you know the drive name?
[11:18] <mhues> well you booted into linux somehow right?
[11:18] <yacc> yatesy: What does it mean when the search shows a package, but not linked?
[11:18] <Fujitsu> Note the warning on the top, BenUrban!
[11:18] <ideas1> does ubuntu-server exist for sparc64
[11:18] <BenUrban> will do
[11:18] <linux_n00b_e> no, it came from an older box that I had Windoze on.....
[11:19] <erUSUL> linux_n00b_e, format the drive and add an apropiate line to fstab
[11:19] <pc22> MickMcMack, and if i have fluxbox im still in gnome?
[11:19] <yatesy> yacc: i've got a link to that package?!
[11:19] <BenUrban> Fujitsu: well i do have 20gb unallocaed space for an ubuntu partition
[11:19] <yacc> Me not?
[11:19] <yatesy> yacc: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/libdevel/postgresql-server-dev-8.0 ?
[11:19] <Razor-X> hmmm.. where does the alias to /dev/mixer live?
[11:19] <MickMcMack> pc22, that's a possibility. ;-)
[11:19] <bekelar> i don't know how to start
[11:19] <Kyral> pc22: You can still use GNOME
[11:19] <pc22> cool
[11:19] <Kyral> pc22: wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox
[11:19] <MickMcMack> pc22, you could even be running... Both at once!
[11:20] <saber> how can i solve this error?
[11:20] <saber> how can i solve this error? :symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0: undefined symbol: g_intern_static_string
[11:20] <Kyral> Written partly by yours truly :D
[11:20] <linux_n00b_e> What are the commands to reformat the second drive? I know how to add it to fstab, but I don't know what I would need to type in the Terimanl to reformat it to begin with....
[11:20] <pc22> its like a theme?
[11:20] <Necrocide> I might got a stupid question, but how do I add a trashcan to the desktop that works like a trashcan and shows an emtpy icon when its emtpy, and a full icon when its full? lol
[11:20] <BenUrban> linux_n00b_e: fdisk /dev/hdb
[11:20] <BenUrban> or similar
[11:20] <Kyral> pc22: what is?
[11:20] <erUSUL> linux_n00b_e, install gparted
[11:20] <linux_n00b_e> I want to know the trashcan thing too!
[11:20] <jeed890> necrocide if nobody answers it means nobody knows ;)
[11:21] <Kyral> pc22: Its a Window Manager...
[11:21] <BenUrban> jeed890: or nobody's paying attention
[11:21] <BenUrban> ;)
[11:21] <Kyral> way too long to get into right here, but gimme sec and I'll give you a link
[11:21] <linux_n00b_e> Thanks BenUrban...
[11:21] <Gnimshkins> Fujitsu?
[11:21] <navarone> I was gonna say that ErUSUL
[11:21] <oscarello> hi, im having a problem with my just installed ubuntu, everytime I want to use sudo I get: "unable to lookup via gethostbyname()"
[11:21] <navarone> lol
[11:21] <bigozs> i have a question: what is "add to meeting" in launchpad supposed to do ?
[11:21] <Fujitsu> Gnimshkins, yes?
[11:21] <jeed890> lol benurban i know nobodys listening to me but if not who gives a s***
[11:21] <Kyral> Uhh...Add to a meeting? :P
[11:21] <yacc> yatesy: But this page doesn't have a download link for the .deb :(
[11:21] <feugan3333> linux_n00b_e: You first know its name, fdisk -l will help you there.
[11:21] <BenUrban> haha
[11:21] <saber> symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0: undefined symbol: g_intern_static_string ------- help me!
[11:21] <Gnimshkins> I can't really follow the binary instructions, cuz I don't have GUI, cuz it won't load my video card
[11:21] <Kyral> pc22: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87276
[11:22] <yacc> yatesy: apt doesn't find it either.
[11:22] <Gnimshkins> so I'm restricted to using the terminal..
[11:22] <Fujitsu> Gnimshkins, what video card?
[11:22] <dragoon> what video card ?
[11:22] <eduardo> alguem fala portugues do brasil?
[11:22] <bigozs> Kyral: - i figured that out ;), but is it an IRC meeting?
[11:22] <yatesy> yacc: oh right :) just use synaptic and make sure you've got the universe respositories added
[11:22] <jeed890> seveas was helping me till he went unexpecttedly
[11:22] <linux_n00b_e> You mean the product name?
[11:22] <yacc> yatesy: I do have.
[11:22] <Kyral> bigozs: I thinks its a RL meeting...
[11:22] <mhues> jeed890: there is a way to do it
[11:22] <yacc> yatesy: And synaptic is just the gui.
[11:22] <Kyral> I duno I have never used that feature
[11:22] <erUSUL> !tell eduardo about pt
[11:22] <Gnimshkins> Fujitsu: nvidia geforce 6600 GT
[11:22] <yatesy> yacc: ok use aptitude instead if you want CLI ;)
[11:22] <Fujitsu> Gnimshkins, it should load.
[11:22] <oscarello> hey geeks i want some helpplease
[11:22] <jeed890> wot u on about mhues?
[11:23] <jeed890> do what?
[11:23] <dragoon> it loaded fine for me
[11:23] <Fujitsu> oscarello, what is up?
[11:23] <erUSUL> jeed890, what is the problem?
[11:23] <eduardo> portugues-br
[11:23] <Kyral> Who you callin' a geek?!
[11:23] <dragoon> using the 'nv' module
[11:23] <Kyral> ;P
[11:23] <MickMcMack> oscarello, what's wrong?
[11:23] <myke> anyone here use symantec norton ghost 9.0?
[11:23] <feugan3333> linux_n00b_e: No, every partition on linux has a device name such as /dev/hda1
[11:23] <Gnimshkins> I'm trying to loud it off a cd
[11:23] <Razor-X> I'm a *nerd* understand? :P
[11:23] <oscarello> fujitsu, hi, im having a problem with my just installed ubuntu, everytime I want to use sudo I get: "unable to lookup via gethostbyname()"
[11:23] <Gnimshkins> and it tells me that the file is not found
[11:23] <yacc> yatesy: What's the difference to apt?
[11:23] <BenUrban> myke: i do at work sometimes
[11:23] <mhues> jeed890: there is a way to set up the trashcan
[11:23] <Razor-X> yacc: it's more effecient at what it does, and can manage packages better, especially removing packages
[11:23] <Razor-X> yacc: also comes with a curses interface, if you're so inclined
[11:23] <myke> BenUrban: for some reason i cnat get to where i need to make a ghost boot disk
[11:23] <yatesy> what he said ;)
[11:23] <harfooz> is there a page like the ubuntuguide.org that works for breezy?
[11:24] <yacc> Razor-X: I like apt.
[11:24] <myke> and i cant find the ghost.exe in order to make a other one
[11:24] <BenUrban> myke: sorry dunno about that
[11:24] <yacc> Razor-X: apt just doesnt find my package.
[11:24] <proxosi> yo guys my ff wont work.. running through terminal said it cant access libtxt.so and libext.so
[11:24] <Razor-X> yacc: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, then try to remove it, and then tell me just how much you love apt-get :)
[11:24] <MickMcMack> yacc, apt-cache search YOURPACKAGE
[11:24] <Razor-X> yacc: how hard is it to substitute aptitude for every instance of apt-get?
[11:24] <MiSS_n00b> i just installed the nvidia drivers, and now after rebooting its gone down to 640x480 res and thats the only option in the res settings, anyone know how i can fix this?
[11:24] <graybandit> navarone:  thanks much, just updated my BIOS, went from 7.6 to 8.20.  will try ubuntu install again.
[11:24] <Kyral> Razor-X: actually that won't remove it
[11:24] <linux_n00b_e> Right.... this is a new drive that I'm putting inside my box. I think the one that I have in already is hda1 and my swap is hda5, but I want to put in a second drive and reformat it so that I'll hae extra drive space.
[11:24] <Razor-X> Kyral: exactly
[11:24] <yacc> MickMcMack: There is no package as far as apt is concerned.
[11:24] <Kyral> Kubuntu-Desktop is a metapack
[11:24] <navarone> graybandit, okie gray...good luck
[11:24] <Razor-X> Kyral: exactly
[11:25] <yacc> And there is no download link on the package page :(
[11:25] <Kyral> Apt won't remove the depends of MetaPacks
[11:25] <Razor-X> Kyral: but aptitude does work with meta-packages
[11:25] <MickMcMack> yacc, apt-get update ?
[11:25] <Kyral> if they aren't needed anymore
[11:25] <yacc> MickMcMack: Doesnt help either.
[11:25] <Kyral> if you install something that depends on KDE though
[11:25] <proxosi>  brb
[11:25] <Razor-X> and instead of apt-cache search, I just use aptitude search
[11:25] <jeed890> erusul i have a booting problem scroll up to c wot it is
[11:25] <yatesy> yacc: you SURE you have universe added?
[11:25] <bekelar> anybody with a laptop of toshiba?
[11:25] <Kyral> apt-cache is more fun
[11:25] <Razor-X> really, I need only one command, ``aptitude'', and I'm happy that way :)
[11:25] <MickMcMack> Kyral, amen.
[11:25] <Razor-X> Kyral: because you have to strain your brain more?
[11:25] <Kyral> lets see aptitude do this
[11:26] <MickMcMack> Razor-X, how do you strain your brain more by using apt? O_o;;;;
[11:26] <yacc> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "postgresql-server-dev-8.0"
[11:26] <harfooz> I'm trying to install the typical restricted format stuff that I'd normally get from marillat if I was on Debian. How do I do that for Breezy? will the marillat repo work?
[11:26] <Kyral> apt-cache rdepends gcc-4.0
[11:26] <Razor-X> Kyral: also, do you know where the alias to /dev/mixer lives?
[11:26] <MickMcMack> yacc apt-cache search postgres
[11:26] <feugan3333> linux_n00b_e: the device name is probabily /dev/hdb1, but use "sudo fdisk -l" as I said earlier to make sure.
[11:26] <yatesy> yacc: just do postgresql and look through them just to be sure then
[11:26] <Fujitsu> !tell harfooz about RestrictedFormats
[11:26] <bekelar> Kyral, the rdepends option what does?
[11:27] <pc22> where can i find a list of window manager that is in ubuntu wiki?
[11:27] <chrisx1> haha i uploaded 1.1gb in few hours
[11:27] <linux_n00b_e> what does the -l part of fdisk do?
[11:27] <Kyral> Tells you what directly depends on the package :D
[11:27] <bekelar> thanks :)
[11:27] <erUSUL> jeed890, "it does not work" it's not a good call for help. explain a little your problem
[11:27] <MiSS_n00b> i just installed the nvidia drivers, and now after rebooting its gone down to 640x480 res and thats the only option in the res settings, anyone know how i can fix this?
[11:27] <jeed890> mhues u here?
[11:27] <feugan3333> linux_n00b_e: lists all the partitions in the partiton table and their device names
[11:27] <erUSUL> !tell MiSS_n00b about fixres
[11:27] <MickMcMack> MiSS_n00b, you killed it!
[11:27] <MiSS_n00b> ty
[11:27] <Kyral> lol whoops
[11:28] <Kyral> apt-cache rdepends perl :D
[11:28] <MiSS_n00b> hehe yeah i'm good at killing stuff
[11:28] <Dreamglider> hmm, i have a external usb hd enclosiure, i placed a dvd rom in it becaus i dont have one in my laptop, the usb port is 1.0 or 1.1 and it skipps/glitched when i try to playback in ubuntu i tried in windows and it played with out a glitch !
[11:28] <BenUrban> can i share a /boot and /home between ubuntu and gentoo?
[11:28] <bekelar> anyone could help me on configuring an integrated bluetooth?
[11:28] <dragoon> BenUrban: most likley
[11:28] <linux_n00b_e> oh!!! If I go into fstab and add the drive into the list, I can then use fdisk to reformat the drive. sweet!
[11:28] <Fujitsu> BenUrban, why share a /boot?
[11:28] <jeed890> erusul u said u can help go on den?
[11:28] <BenUrban> dragoon: really? /boot too?
[11:28] <erUSUL> Dreamglider, wellcome to the wonderfull world of linux usb stack ;)
[11:29] <BenUrban> Fujitsu: because i know this kernel works with my hardware
[11:29] <Fujitsu> erUSUL, true.
[11:29] <dragoon> well if you think about it, it shouldnt make a difference
[11:29] <proxosi> can someobyd tlel me a way to fix my firefox.. if there something wrong with libxt.so and libext.so
[11:29] <MickMcMack> MiSS_n00b, sudo cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep nv
[11:29] <vectoralpha> fujitsu no luck on the manual down up for that card, any other ideas?
[11:29] <dragoon> because you only need one copy of grub installed
[11:29] <erUSUL> jeed890, i can try to help if you explain the problem
[11:29] <Dreamglider> erUSUL, can i do anything about it ?
[11:29] <Fujitsu> BenUrban, you should not use the same kernel for both!
[11:29] <linux_n00b_e> I actually have two extra hard drives. Do you think that I could put both into the box?
[11:29] <jeed890> i did
[11:29] <BenUrban> meh
[11:29] <BenUrban> ok
[11:29] <MickMcMack> MiSS_n00b, does it say nvidia or nv ?
[11:29] <dragoon> yea im getting to that
[11:29] <dragoon> :p
[11:29] <jeed890> i will again then
[11:29] <erUSUL> Dreamglider, probably not
[11:29] <BenUrban> hmm well i can share /boot anyway, i guess
[11:29] <feugan3333> linux_n00b_e: you can use fdisk without addin an entry to fstab, fdisk does not format the drive!
[11:29] <Razor-X> oh back
[11:29] <BenUrban> without sharing the kernel
[11:29] <Dreamglider> erUSUL, why is it wonderfull then!!!
[11:30] <BenUrban> since they both use grub
[11:30] <Razor-X> Kyral: rdepends is not implemented in the command-line version of aptitude, but is easily viewable in the curses interface
[11:30] <BenUrban> assuming i match the grub version
[11:30] <raimian> i need some help setting up my asix ax88172 network adapter
[11:30] <linux_n00b_e> So what command can I call from the terminal to re-format the drive?
[11:30] <MickMcMack> MiSS_n00b, ping ?
[11:30] <Kyral> Razor-X: I find it inefficient
[11:30] <Stork> how come my computer doesn't have a /dev/sd0 (where my ipod should be)?
[11:30] <Razor-X> Kyral: you oftentimes need to view the reverse dependancies of a package?
[11:30] <BenUrban> linux_n00b_e: depends what filesystem type you want
[11:30] <Kyral> Razor-X: yes...if I am changing it
[11:30] <linux_n00b_e> It's got Windoze on it and I want to completely erase it and use it for extra memory...
[11:30] <Kyral> Version change
[11:31] <jeed890> im running 5.04 dual boot (grub) wid xp i can boot into xp but not ubuntu i spoke to seveas about it he told me to get him some info i did he wanted the output of sudo fdisk -l i got that he wanted the contents of /boot/grub/menu.lst i got that now wot ?
[11:31] <linux_n00b_e> I want to use ext3, what Ubuntu uses now....
[11:31] <feugan3333> linux_n00b_e: What format do you want to use (are you sharing the drive with a windows os?) ext3/fat32 ....
[11:31] <Razor-X> Kyral: as in, creating a new package?
[11:31] <BenUrban> linux_n00b_e: mke2fs -j iirc
[11:31] <Kyral> Razor-X: I am a developer in training
[11:31] <Fujitsu> jeed890, paste it.
[11:31] <pc22> Kyral, any wm u can recommend other than flux
[11:31] <Kyral> XFCE...
[11:31] <Fujitsu> Blackbox.
[11:31] <jeed890> which 1? fujitsu
[11:31] <Razor-X> ratpoison :)
[11:31] <Kyral> Enlightenment is supposed to be good
[11:32] <erUSUL> jeed890, have you posted the files in pastebin?. can you post the links?
[11:32] <Kyral> but I need FOOD!
[11:32] <Fujitsu> jeed890, post them both.
[11:32] <feugan3333> linux_n00b_e: mksfs.ext3 driveName  (but you still have not given us the drive name)
[11:32] <jeed890> no i have not soz
[11:32] <Stork> how come my computer doesn't have a /dev/sd0 (where my ipod should be)?
[11:32] <vectoralpha> fujitsu no luck on the manual down up
[11:32] <jeed890> i know wot u will want
[11:32] <Fujitsu> vectoralpha, what type of device is it/.
[11:32] <jcole> lol, from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, wtf is that --> for i in `ls /dev/hd* | grep -e "hd\w$"`; do sudo fdisk -l $i; done
[11:32] <linux_n00b_e> it's going to be hdb1
[11:32] <MickMcMack> Enlightenment is most definately one sexy WM.
[11:32] <Stork> how come my computer doesn't have a /dev/sd0 (where my ipod should be)?
[11:32] <jeed890> the kernal line in menu.lst and first and last columns of the terinmal outpu
[11:32] <erUSUL> Stork, /dev/sda0 or /dev/sda1
[11:32] <jeed890> t
[11:32] <jcole> why not just do and "fdisk -l"?
[11:33] <jeed890> am i right?
[11:33] <MiSS_n00b> pong!heh sorry MickMcMack hard to read this low res it says Driver          "nvidia"
[11:33] <raimian> how do i set up my usb network adapter????
[11:33] <MickMcMack> MiSS_n00b, hmmz.
[11:33] <feugan3333> linux_n00b_e: going to be?
[11:33] <Fujitsu> jeed890, the entire files, please.
[11:33] <MickMcMack> MiSS_n00b, sec...
[11:33] <jeed890> thatll take ages fujitsu
[11:33] <linux_n00b_e> You have to add it to the fstab file in ordere for it to show up. Thats what I had to do for my USB stick...
[11:33] <b3nw> Hi, I am trying to change my locale from DE to en_US, but I keep gettting this error: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1238  does anyone know how to fix it?
[11:33] <vectoralpha> fujitsu 3com generic 10/100 nic, on eth0
[11:33] <Fujitsu> jeed890, whaddaya mean?
[11:34] <feugan3333> linux_n00b_e: the command is then "sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdb1"
[11:34] <MickMcMack> MiSS_n00b, sudo cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Modes
[11:34] <jeed890> plus in here it will be brokn up by other chat do it through pm
[11:34] <Stork> erUSUL, thanks
[11:34] <MickMcMack> And does it have your mode there?
[11:34] <Fujitsu> Odd, vectoralpha. Home-build kernel? WHat version>
[11:34] <MickMcMack> (Don't paste the entire output).
[11:34] <eduardo> alguem do brasil?
[11:34] <raimian> how do i do that
[11:34] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell jeed890 about pastebin
[11:34] <linux_n00b_e> Yeah, i said the drive is from another box and I'm putting it inside the one that I use Ubuntu on.....
[11:34] <jeed890> im on xp now btw
[11:34] <vectoralpha> fujitsu 2.6.12..., same current for kubuntu, on the same config minus rivafb support
[11:34] <MiSS_n00b> Modes           "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" > it has that same line 6 times
[11:34] <erUSUL> b3nw, sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales and make sure the ones you want gets generated
[11:35] <Fujitsu> vectoralpha, very, very strange. Does it work on each bootup?
[11:35] <erUSUL> ubotu: tell eduardo about pt
[11:35] <proxosi> fuji: how do i acces my other partition by gui.. the only way i can do it is .. by sudo nautilus.. and access thru .. or through root terminal
[11:35] <linux_n00b_e> is it mke2fs or mkesfs?
[11:35] <vectoralpha> fujitsu for only a short while, yes
[11:35] <jeed890> fujitsu explain "paste bin"
[11:35] <feugan3333> linux_n00b_e: mksfs.ext3 will also do.
[11:35] <BenUrban> linux_n00b_e: mkfs.ext3
[11:35] <Fujitsu> jeed890, go to that site, and paste it there. THen past a link.
[11:35] <MickMcMack> MiSS_n00b, and you can't change the resolution? O_o;
[11:35] <MickMcMack> MiSS_n00b, what WM/DE are you using?
[11:35] <jeed890> got it
[11:35] <Fujitsu> proxosi, what filesystem.
[11:36] <proxosi> fuji: i want to access ntfs
[11:36] <MiSS_n00b> no it only has the 640x480 option
[11:36] <slew> hi, how do i uninstall a program i compiled from source?
[11:36] <Razor-X> Kyral: for that one reason, you'll resort to using deborphan, and you'll have to specify purge removing?
[11:36] <MiSS_n00b> whats wm/de?
[11:36] <Fujitsu> proxosi, why can't you access it as a normal user? DId you follow the instructions on the wiki?
[11:36] <proxosi> fuji: i dont get it :(
[11:36] <Razor-X> Kyral: you're going to have to manage two applications to specify what do with your packages, such as holding?
[11:36] <b3nw> erUSUL - ty :)
[11:36] <slew> MiSS_n00b, window manager, desktop environment
[11:36] <Fujitsu> proxosi, did you follow the instructions on the wiki?
[11:37] <MickMcMack> MiSS_n00b, sorry - Windows Manager, or Desktop Environment.
[11:37] <erUSUL> b3nw, np
[11:37] <MickMcMack> MiSS_n00b, GNOME, KDE, TWM etc.
[11:37] <jeed890> fujitsu type da site name so i have itr right
[11:37] <MiSS_n00b> gnome
[11:37] <proxosi> fujitsu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions ?
[11:37] <MickMcMack> MiSS_n00b, gimme a second.
[11:37] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell jeed890 about pastebin
[11:37] <Fujitsu> proxosi, yes.
[11:37] <MiSS_n00b> ok
[11:37] <vectoralpha> fujitsu, i know its odd.., and i'm running out of ideas, if all else, any search string suggestions, and if you didn't get the previous message, it does do it at every boot
[11:37] <graybandit> when burning the ubuntu ISO file in Nero, you just select the 'make bootable disk' option, correct?
[11:37] <slew> !uninstall
[11:37] <ubotu> slew: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[11:38] <Fujitsu> vectoralpha, very very very strange.
[11:38] <slew> hehehe
[11:38] <slew> !windmill
[11:38] <ubotu> No idea, slew
[11:38] <jeed890> itll still take forever i have 2 type it all up :(
[11:38] <Fujitsu> jeed890, copy and paste it!
[11:38] <MickMcMack> MiSS_n00b, have you tried CTRL+ALT+ "numberpad: +"
[11:38] <jeed890> i cant
[11:38] <MiSS_n00b> nothing happens
[11:38] <jeed890> i dont have the file!
[11:39] <MickMcMack> MiSS_n00b, hmmmz.
[11:39] <linux_n00b_e> is there a way to put two Linux boxes on grid to increase processor power?
[11:39] <jeed890> i have all of it on paper
[11:39] <erUSUL> jeed890, you can boot up with a livecd
[11:39] <dragoon> scanner
[11:39] <dragoon> :p
[11:39] <jeed890> yer i no but no internet on it
[11:39] <Razor-X> linux_n00b_e: lookup MOSIX
[11:39] <myke> can some one help me install the firefox 1.5?
[11:39] <myke> i got the sources
[11:39] <Razor-X> linux_n00b_e: or, if simply for compiling, distcc
[11:39] <erUSUL> jeed890, have you got a knoppix or ubuntu livecd?
[11:39] <jeed890> ubuntu
[11:39] <slew> !newfirefox
[11:39] <ubotu> No idea, slew
[11:39] <slew> !firefox
[11:39] <ubotu> slew: What?
[11:39] <licksjp> r there gcc and qt in ubuntu??
[11:39] <vectoralpha> fujitsu any ideas for google strings?
[11:39] <Fujitsu> myke, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:39] <proxosi> fuji: i dont get the part on the line          ls /dev/hd* | grep -e "hd\w$"`
[11:40] <Fujitsu> vectoralpha, no.
[11:40] <erUSUL> myke, search in the wiki there is a how to
[11:40] <myke> thnx
[11:40] <BenUrban> proxosi: grep is a filter
[11:40] <MickMcMack> grep is a program.
[11:40] <jeed890> just tell me wot lines u want?
[11:40] <linux_n00b_e> Thanks guys!!! :)
[11:40] <Fujitsu> proxosi, do you know the partition that you want?
[11:41] <proxosi> fuji: yes , hda
[11:41] <proxosi> fuji: hda
[11:41] <Fujitsu> proxosi, partition, not disk. fdisk -l.
[11:41] <proxosi> fuji: hda1
[11:41] <licksjp> I want to install the qt in my ubuntu
[11:41] <proxosi> fuji: heh?
[11:41] <erUSUL> proxosi, it is clear that it skips partitions an shows only disks
[11:41] <pizux> is someone on gxmame hehre?
[11:41] <vectoralpha> fujitsu thanks for the help
[11:41] <proxosi> ....
[11:41] <Fujitsu> jeed890, we really need most of it to check for syntactical errors.
[11:42] <proxosi> what that suppose to mean?
[11:42] <Fujitsu> proxosi, OK.
[11:42] <pizux> gxmame dont find my roms
[11:42] <Fujitsu> proxosi, open up /etc/fstab as root.
[11:42] <MiSS_n00b> is there a way that i can uninstall the nvidia drivers and reinstall them or something
[11:42] <Debian> Hi i created a user on my ubuntu box.. how can i limit the privileges to that user?
[11:42] <proxosi> how i open?
[11:42] <Debian> make him only read ?
[11:42] <proxosi> wat i type to open?
[11:42] <Fujitsu> proxosi, sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[11:42] <MickMcMack> MiSS_n00b, what kernel are you using?
[11:42] <MickMcMack> MiSS_n00b, and what nvidia drivers?
[11:42] <proxosi> ok done
[11:42] <MiSS_n00b> kernal um
[11:43] <BenUrban> wow qemu compiled awfully fast
[11:43] <erUSUL> jeed890, the lines that begin with kernel in menu.lst and the output of fdisk -l
[11:43] <Fujitsu> proxosi, is there a line mentioning ntfs?
[11:43] <proxosi> yes
[11:43] <slew> whats a good tutorial site? wiki dosent have answers to my question. =[
[11:43] <proxosi> one line originally.. yesterday i add a extra line
[11:43] <MiSS_n00b> 2.6.10-5-386
[11:43] <MiSS_n00b> 2.6.10-5-386
[11:43] <MiSS_n00b> 2.6.10-5-386 kernal
[11:43] <MiSS_n00b> woopsy sorry guys
[11:43] <MickMcMack> MiSS_n00b, uname -r
[11:43] <Fujitsu> proxosi, there should be something saying defaults on that line. Change it to defaults,umask=0222
[11:43] <erUSUL> Debian, read what
[11:43] <proxosi> /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults        0       0                    << the first one that it did
[11:43] <MickMcMack> Ah, ok.
[11:43] <proxosi> the one i put          /dev/hda1	/media/hda1	ntfs	auto,users,exec,ro,umask=000	0	0	
[11:43] <BenUrban> does ubuntu do netless installs?
[11:43] <Razor-X> anyone know where the /dev/mixer alias lives? or if someone can get me alsa related entries into pastebin in their /etc/modprobe.d ?
[11:43] <feugan3333> MickMcMack: your asking a noob what kernel they are using!
[11:43] <MiSS_n00b> and the nvidia drivrs where from apt-get install nvidia-glx
[11:43] <ydnar> what's the easiest way to setupi wifi in ubuntu?
[11:44] <BenUrban> or do i have to compile tun/tap?
[11:44] <dragoon> BenUrban: indeed
[11:44] <Fujitsu> Just defaults,umask=0222 should do.
[11:44] <BenUrban> ok good
[11:44] <erUSUL> Debian, a normal user can only write in /tmp and her home
[11:44] <Debian> erUSUL, only has access to read the files in his /home folder
[11:44] <MickMcMack> feugan3333, I provided the command too!
[11:44] <dragoon> it does netless.... :)
[11:44] <erUSUL> mostly
[11:44] <braniff> how do i start x applications from xterm in breezy badger ??
[11:44] <MiSS_n00b> hey i knew the command;)
[11:44] <proxosi> fuji: so i edit the first line?
[11:44] <MickMcMack> :)
[11:44] <feugan3333> MickMcMack: :-)
[11:44] <Debian> erUSUL, could he see the other users folderS/
[11:44] <Fujitsu> proxosi, yes.
[11:44] <BenUrban> braniff: type the command and hit enter
[11:44] <proxosi> fuji: the line where it mentions ntfs
[11:44] <erUSUL> Debian, this is not possible
[11:44] <Debian> erUSUL, okay thanks.
[11:44] <BenUrban> Debian: if they are visible to everyone, they are visible to everyone
[11:44] <feugan3333> MiSS_n00b: what graphics card again?
[11:44] <BenUrban> lol
[11:45] <BenUrban> i know, that wasn't helpful
[11:45] <braniff> BenUrban,  i type the commands, but it says "cannot connect to X server"
[11:45] <Debian> BenUrban, how ?
[11:45] <erUSUL> Debian, it depends on how the owners of the folders has set up his permissions
[11:45] <jeed890> ive posted the terminal output under jeed890
[11:45] <Debian> BenUrban, how can i make it invisible to everyone expect the owner of the account.
[11:45] <Razor-X> BenUrban: compiling tun and tap... wow, ages before I read docs about that :)
[11:45] <BenUrban> Debian: chmod g-r-x o-r-x /home/* (iirc)
[11:45] <raimian> how do i setup my asix ax88172 usb eternet adapter to access my network?????????????
[11:45] <MickMcMack> MiSS_n00b, ok -  apt-cache search nvidia | grep linux-restricted-modules    and look for the one that matches your kernel.
[11:45] <BenUrban> not sure if that's the right syntax
[11:46] <Fujitsu> OK, jeed890, wait a sec.
[11:46] <MiSS_n00b> nvidia geforce2 mx/mx400
[11:46] <Razor-X> raimian: you don't need that many question marks
[11:46] <MiSS_n00b> ok
[11:46] <Fujitsu> jeed890, which can't you boot?
[11:46] <erUSUL> raimian, google is your friend
[11:46] <feugan3333> MiSS_n00b: I've got exactly the same card. All I can say is good luck
[11:46] <Debian> BenUrban, whats the (iirc) ?
[11:46] <MickMcMack> MiSS_n00b, don't post the output though! :p
[11:46] <Fujitsu> erUSUL, it is strictly forbidden to do that!
[11:46] <BenUrban> Debian: if i recall correctly
[11:46] <proxosi> fuji how i save change?
[11:46] <Fujitsu> proxosi, click Save.
[11:46] <MickMcMack> feugan3333, are the drivers in the legacy nvidia package?
[11:47] <proxosi> fuji: i feel dumb now :(
[11:47] <feugan3333> MickMcMack: yes but don't work
[11:47] <erUSUL> Fujitsu, to do what?
[11:47] <Fujitsu> erUSUL, to tell people to google it!
[11:47] <jeed890> and the rest under same name u got it?
[11:47] <pozdiy> elinks works only with sudo, persmissions are -rwxr-xr-x, error message is :"ERROR at interlink.c:444: connect() failed: 13 (Permission denied)", what to do?
[11:47] <mibIV> Hi! Is there anyone who could help out with a wlan adapter?
[11:47] <MiSS_n00b> it just says linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-386 - Non-free Linux 2.6.10 modules on 386
[11:47] <feugan3333> !nvidia
[11:47] <ubotu> I guess nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[11:47] <Fujitsu> Yes, jeed890. Which OS is unbootable jeed890?
[11:48] <MiSS_n00b> i had them working ok before i reinstalled
[11:48] <proxosi> fuji : wat next?
[11:48] <jeed890> ubuntu xp is fine im on it now
[11:48] <pozdiy> !tell mibIV about wifi
[11:48] <jeed890> im running ubuntu on an usb hdd btw
[11:48] <MiSS_n00b> the nvidia splash screen shows at startup
[11:48] <chrisx1> Hey im wondering if any1 can give me 1 to 1 support installin some touchscreen drivers
[11:48] <Debian> BenUrban, didnt work
[11:48] <erUSUL> Fujitsu, for an specific hardware that maybe nobody else in the channel has google is the best answer. but if it is forbiden i won't do that again thanks for pointing it out
[11:48] <BenUrban> Debian: what did it say?
[11:48] <harfooz> I want to be able to check out the www.apple.com/trailers as well as play dvd's on this laptop -- will the instructions on http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#sect-music-and-movies be all that I need to do, or is there something like an mplayer plugin for firefox that I need to install as well?
[11:49] <Fujitsu> jeed890, I don't think USB booting is likely to work well...
[11:49] <yatesy> why not?
[11:49] <jeed890> well i tries partitioning mt internal hhd wid xp and ubuntu
[11:49] <basti> hello
[11:49] <BenUrban> Fujitsu: it depends entirely on the firmware
[11:49] <basti> Where can I find the wine config file?
[11:49] <jeed890> when i went to boot then grub had error 17
[11:49] <BenUrban> basti: ~/.wine
[11:49] <Fujitsu> BenUrban, yes. However I do not like USB disk booting.
[11:49] <jeed890>   so that did not get as far
[11:50] <BenUrban> that's a personal preference
[11:50] <Fujitsu> jeed890, what is error 17?
[11:50] <yatesy> most BIOSs these days are able to boot from usb
[11:50] <phiz__> http://phiz.be/ubuntu/ anybody?
[11:50] <jeed890> i dont know
[11:50] <yatesy> if you don't like it, don't have it in your boot order ;)
[11:50] <jeed890> it only says error 17 when grub trys to load
[11:50] <jeed890> brb
[11:51] <Fujitsu> Nice, phiz__. I don't know.
[11:51] <hollywoodb> jeed890: google. 'grub error 17'
[11:51] <dragoon> error 17 is it cant find the config iirc
[11:51] <mibIV> Thanks!
[11:52] <phiz__> not nice :-(
[11:52] <harfooz> dvd playback is working! woo hoo!
[11:52] <erUSUL> phiz__, have you tried to switch to an vt to see the error msg? (with crtl + Alt + Fn)
[11:52] <jeed890> bak so?
[11:52] <kung> gn8
[11:53] <Lewix> does someone has the dvd iso in his comp ?
[11:53] <proxosi> fujitsu: what i do after i save?
[11:53] <jeed890> wot u come up with?
[11:53] <Razor-X> is the Breezy version of xpdf broken?
[11:53] <Fujitsu> proxosi, sudo umount /dev/hda1, then sudo mount /dev/hda1
[11:53] <BenUrban> does this look right?  xhost +; sudo qemu -cdrom /dev/cdrom -enable-audio -boot c; xhost -
[11:53] <QMario> How do I find my external IP Address?
[11:53] <Fujitsu> Razor-X, I don't think so.
[11:53] <jeed890> so solution?
[11:53] <psi> Razor-X, works here
[11:53] <proxosi> fuji: through root? or user?
[11:53] <BenUrban> QMario: http://www.whatismyip.com/
[11:54] <Fujitsu> QMario, 68.201.249.213
[11:54] <Razor-X> psi: when I start it up, I guess the interface color has changed to blue, and part of the screen refuses to refresh
[11:54] <QMario> BenUrban, sorry I meant without the Internet.
[11:54] <BenUrban> lmao
[11:54] <BenUrban> ah
[11:54] <QMario> How did you know?
[11:54] <Lewix> damn I can on.y the dvd iso from one mirror in the official website, but the file is corrupted
[11:54] <BenUrban> QMario: irc knows all
[11:54] <BenUrban> ;)
[11:54] <QMario> What does "lmao" mean?
[11:54] <erUSUL> jeed890, i think that somebody says that booting from usb is not well supported :(
[11:54] <jeed890> found error
[11:54] <BenUrban> laghing my a** off
[11:54] <Fujitsu> IRC does know all...
[11:54] <Razor-X> QMario: laughing my ass off
[11:54] <Lewix> I need someone to dcc me the dvd iso
[11:54] <jeed890> its 17 : Cannot mount selected partition
[11:54] <jeed890> This error is returned if the partition requested exists, but the filesystem type cannot be recognized by GRUB.
[11:54] <BenUrban> Lewix: are you insane?
[11:54] <erUSUL> Lewix, you can try to fix it with bt
[11:54] <psi> Razor-X, freaky. i have no idea what might cause that.
[11:55] <Fujitsu> Lewix, inadvisable. Download it from HTTP/FTP!
[11:55] <QMario> Fujitsu, how did you do that?
[11:55] <chrisx1> hey i have a touchscreen and i got drivers but they only give help for red hat will they work on ubuntu?
[11:55] <Fujitsu> Or Jigdo.
[11:55] <Fujitsu> Or bittorrent,.
[11:55] <jeed890> so anybody gonna help?
[11:55] <Razor-X> QMario: I never really use it though, because I never really go in public and say ``lmao'' or ``lol'', every word I use on IRC, I use in public :)
[11:55] <Fujitsu> chrisx1, possibly.
[11:55] <Fujitsu> jeed890, I have no idea.
[11:55] <Razor-X> psi: I tried a reinstall... maybe if I clean my package cache
[11:55] <BenUrban> QMario: --> QMario (n=qmario@cpe-68-201-249-213.houston.res.rr.com) has joined #Ubuntu
[11:55] <BenUrban> that's how he knew
[11:55] <QMario> Is there a program I can download, that can show me my IP address?
[11:55] <jeed890> well wot about with my usb problem ?
[11:55] <erUSUL> jeed890, what are you trying to do know
[11:55] <dragoon> ifconfig ?
[11:55] <QMario> I thought as much...
[11:55] <dragoon> :p
[11:55] <Chousuke> I've heard people say "asdfasdf" IRL
[11:55] <Jowi> jeed890: what are you trying to mount? are you sure that grub config is pointing a partition and not the disk itself?
[11:55] <QMario> Dragoon, external.
[11:56] <Necrocide> If I want to increase my swap partition, can I then just increase the size of my partition?
[11:56] <phiz__> erUSUL: is there a way to verify that grub is installed correctly before i reboot the install? or a way to use the cd as a rescue disk if grub was not installed correctly?
[11:56] <PoYoX> hi all!
[11:56] <dragoon> im sure you could make something
[11:56] <Agrajag> Necrocide: you could just make a swap file
[11:56] <Fujitsu> PoYoX: Hi.
[11:56] <Lewix> BenUrban: im downllaoding it from bt since 3days
[11:56] <Lewix> I cant strand it
[11:56] <jeed890> when fujitsu said usb booting is s*** i said when i tried it  on 1 hdd it did not work either so back to the usb problem
[11:56] <Lewix> too slow
[11:56] <Lewix> 1kb
[11:57] <Fujitsu> DOes Ubuntu do Jigdo? I have forgotten...
[11:57] <PoYoX> anybody some experiencies with dapper ??
[11:57] <erUSUL> phiz__, you can use the livecd to install grub afterwards
[11:57] <Necrocide> Agrajag, can you explain a bit further?
[11:57] <johnsie2k> whats the best all-in-one c++ ide for gnome?
[11:57] <Necrocide> I'm new to Linux
[11:57] <feugan3333> Lewix: You can see your ip address with the ifconfig command
[11:57] <QMario> pm ubotu
[11:57] <Fujitsu> johnsie2k, probably Anjuta.
[11:57] <johnsie2k> thanks i'll give it a try
[11:57] <Lewix> feugan3333: and ?
[11:57] <Lewix> k
[11:57] <Lewix> 1s
[11:57] <phiz__> erUSUL: when i boot it just sits a GRUB and waits there
[11:58] <phiz__> it doesn't show the splash screen or anything
[11:58] <proxosi> fuji: i finished with           sudo umount /dev/hda1, then sudo mount /dev/hda1
[11:58] <jeed890>  how about just solving wot i posted of on paste bin?
[11:58] <Agrajag> Necrocide: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile && sudo mkswap /swapfile && sudo swapon /swapfile
[11:58] <feugan3333> Lewix: so what's does the program do extra?
[11:58] <BenUrban> Agrajag: ummm
[11:58] <Agrajag> I have to leave now so I'll leave the adding of the fstab line as an excersize for you
[11:58] <Fujitsu> proxosi: ?
[11:58] <jeed890> anybody solved that ?
[11:58] <Agrajag> er
[11:58] <Agrajag> yeah
[11:58] <BenUrban> Necrocide: i strongly recommend you specify a size limit to dd :P
[11:58] <Agrajag> forgot a bit there didn't I, I'm in a hurry
[11:58] <Necrocide> dd is the size?
[11:58] <proxosi> cool it worked
[11:59] <proxosi> fuji: i love you!
[11:59] <Agrajag> Necrocide: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile && sudo mkswap /swapfile bs=1M count=1024 && sudo swapon /swapfile
[11:59] <braniff> i can't start any x apps from an xterm running in gnome...they all give errors about not being able to connect to the x server...any ideas ??
[11:59] <erUSUL> phiz__, whaen you boot the livecd?
[11:59] <chrisx1> Fujitsu, Where is the x config file?
[11:59] <Fujitsu> Doesn't everyone, proxosi, doesn't everyone...
[11:59] <Agrajag> Necrocide: that would make 1 gigabyte of swap
[11:59] <Fujitsu> chrisx1: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:59] <MickMcMack> Night all! o/
[11:59] <Agrajag> wckbicbiv
[11:59] <Necrocide> Can I really just paste that into the terminal?
[11:59] <Agrajag> DAM
[11:59] <BenUrban> Agrajag: dd needs the limit
[11:59] <QMario> The situation is that I have a computer without either GNOME or KDE and I want to see how I can get that computer's external IP Address.
[11:59] <proxosi> fuji: i love u the most ! :) :8
[11:59] <Fujitsu> Night MickMcMack.
[11:59] <BenUrban> lol
[11:59] <Agrajag> likeI said, I'm rushing here
[11:59] <jeed890> fujitsu have u seen wot i posted?
[11:59] <Fujitsu> QMario, is it directly connected to the modem?
[11:59] <Necrocide> Hmm..
[11:59] <Agrajag> Necrocide: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile bs=1M count=1024 && sudo mkswap /swapfile && sudo swapon /swapfile
[11:59] <BenUrban> QMario: do you want the local address or the public one?
[11:59] <Agrajag> OK
[11:59] <Fujitsu> jeed890, yes, but I have no experience with USB, or even much SCSI.
[11:59] <Agrajag> THAT one will work
[11:59] <erUSUL> QMario, ifconfig
[11:59] <Agrajag> asfkj
[12:00] <proxosi>   does ubuntu come with a mediaplayer?
[12:00] <Fujitsu> proxosi, mplayer?