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erUSULproxosi, with a few12:00
Agrajagtotem12:00
dragoonhow do i play video in ubuntu12:00
BenUrbanproxosi: it comes with several afaict12:00
jeed890so im bugered :'(12:00
johnsie2kQmario are you suig a router?12:00
Agrajagok12:00
QMarioBenUrban, public.12:00
johnsie2kusing12:00
JowiQMario: if it is connected straight to a modem: ifconfig. if it is connected to a router: login to the router and check.12:00
QMarioYes, a router.12:00
ShadyHello everyone. Anyone ever had problems with wi-fi and ubuntu, because I've been fooling around with it for a while and it hasn't worked.12:00
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dragooni downloaded  w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb12:00
FujitsuShady, what type of card/encryption?12:00
dragoonand installed it12:00
dragoonstill - video doesnt play12:00
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johnsie2kthen cant you use luynx to log into the router and get the ip from there?12:00
NecrocideAgrajag, what is "/dev/zero"? Where does it take the swap space from? (I'm still running two partitions, windows/linux)12:00
BenUrbanQMario: if you have links or lynx you don't need kde or gnome12:00
ShadyAtheros/WEP12:00
johnsie2klynx12:01
DebianBenUrban, dude my fiend can see my home folder! how12:01
FujitsuURGH. lynx is bad. links is good.12:01
harfoozhow do I get firefox to use the mozilla-mplayer plugin to play trailers?12:01
Razor-XFujitsu: it's a choice12:01
BenUrbanDebian: ls -ld ~12:01
ShadyFujitsu, atheros/wep12:01
FujitsuShady, how have you been playing with it?12:01
Razor-XI prefer lynx, personally12:01
BenUrbancheck the permissions bits12:01
QMarioMedia Player Connectivity Extension.12:01
chrisx1Fujitsu, where do i put this in xorg.conf12:01
chrisx12. Add the following line to the ServerLayout Section: Inputdevice  touchscreen1 SendCoreEvents12:01
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dnBLewix, :P12:02
DebianBenUrban, drwxr-xr-x  28 root root 4096 2005-12-07 19:05 /root12:02
chrisx1?12:02
BenUrbanDebian: ...12:02
BenUrbanDebian: you're using sudo12:02
ShadyFujitsu, Well I've reset it, and redid all the passwords, made sure I had the right WEP key and then I put the info on my network connections and it doesn't connect12:02
Lewixyo dnB12:02
BenUrbanbut why is /root visible to everyone anyway?12:02
Jowichrisx1: you just pasted your answer.12:02
erUSULchrisx1, in the ServerLayout Section?12:02
FujitsuJowi, basically, yes.12:02
BenUrbanDebian: chmod 700 /root12:02
dnBLewix, no help yet eh12:02
chrisx1i see no serverlayout section12:02
DebianBenUrban, ok i removed sudo12:03
Debiandrwx---r-x  48 ubuntu ubuntu 4096 2005-12-08 01:02 /home/ubuntu12:03
chrisx1erUSUL, found it silly me lol12:03
phiz__those are silly permissions12:03
BenUrbanah so i didn't have the syntax quite right12:03
Jowichrisx1: look at the bottom of the xorg.conf: Section "ServerLayout" is there12:03
Fujitsuchrisx1, I see Section "ServerLayout"12:03
BenUrbanDebian: chmod o-r-x /home/ubuntu12:03
LewixdnB:nope12:03
BenUrbanphiz__: i got the chmod syntax wrong12:03
phiz__chmod 770 /home/ubuntu12:04
BenUrbanphiz__: i told him to do g-r-x o-r-x12:04
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Debianwhats o-r-x ?12:04
phiz__oh12:04
kandinskiI just installed the ATI binary drivers (Ubuntu Breezy package on an updated Ubuntu Breezy system) on my athlon 1200 with a generic ATI 9200. They work fine for GL.12:04
phiz__o = other/world12:04
kandinskiHowever, videos on Totem look like ass and TVtime craps out upon loading. Any fix?12:04
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erUSULDebian, if you want to make sure that only you caqn see your files do chmod -R 700 $HOME12:04
FujitsuI know not, kandinski.12:04
BenUrbankandinski: i suggest you get some videos that do not depict ass12:05
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chrisx1if i already have an InputDevice Section should i inslude my text there or make another?12:05
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Fujitsuchrisx1, include it like the others.12:05
erUSULDebian, and then add umask=077 to your .bashrc12:05
dragoonmm good ol vlc12:05
kandinskiBenUrban: you are funny. I got videos showing horse. It still looks like ass.12:05
BenUrbanhaha12:05
erUSULchrisx1, add it to the existing one12:05
DebianerUSUL, whats the .bashrc :/12:06
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Razor-XDebian: it's the file that contains the preferences for BASH12:06
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erUSULDebian, it is a file for configuring the comand line (bash)12:07
DebianRazor-X, where is it located?12:07
Razor-XDebian: ~/.bashrc12:07
Razor-X:)12:07
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erUSULDebian, setting the umask makes all your new files get the restrictive permisions12:07
DebianerUSUL, im in the file.. where do i actually put it?12:08
BenUrbancorrect me if i'm wrong, but doesn't .bashrc apply only to interactive shells?12:08
gimmulf!tor12:08
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, gimmulf12:08
BenUrbanhaha12:08
FujitsuI like it!12:08
Razor-XBenUrban: I believe you are correct12:08
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`Evilhello12:08
harfooztotem keeps trying to play the apple trailers, and I want the mozilla-mplayer plugin to do it. I've install the plugin -- how do I tell ff to use mplayer rather than totem?12:08
BenUrbanin which case, you want .bash_profile12:08
chrisx1brb tryin this thing12:08
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Fujitsu`Evil, Hi.12:08
`Evilwho use the zd1211 chipset please12:08
Razor-XerUSUL: reading is too pass\`{e}12:08
Razor-X:)12:08
BenUrban\`{e}?12:09
dnBLewix, exactly what problem are you having? are you seeing anything at all? when does the screen go blank? what laptop are you using?12:09
Razor-XBenUrban: that's LaTeX to render an `e' with a grave accent12:09
BenUrbanah12:09
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FujitsuRazor-X. Yay. LaTeX.12:09
BenUrbanyou and your \LaTeX12:09
erUSULDebian, whatever you like the line should read 'export umask=077'12:09
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Razor-XBenUrban: yeah, I use it to do all my homework :)12:09
BenUrban...12:09
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Razor-XBenUrban: it takes time?12:10
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FujitsuRazor-X: I like the version numbers... 3.14159...12:10
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Razor-XI wasn't aware 1 minute was substantial time12:10
`Evilno one ?12:10
Razor-XFujitsu: yeahp :)12:10
Debiando i put export umask=007 or umask=007 ?12:10
BenUrbanDebian: export umask=00712:10
erUSULDebian, with export12:10
ShadyFujitsu, You have any idea of what could be going on?12:10
FujitsuShady, not an inkling.12:10
BenUrbanDebian: but put it in ~/.bash_profile, not ~/.bashrc12:11
navaronefirefox12:11
Shadyagh.12:11
BenUrbanyou will then have to log out for it to take effect12:11
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LewixdnB: the screen with differents options appears(f1,expert,install,live cd,enter) ...well I've tried all of these options, at the beginning it's as if it's going to work, it loads stuff and then the screen goes dark and nothing12:11
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dnBLewix, that model is your laptop?12:12
BenUrbandoes anyone know how to get qemu to not use full screen?12:12
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erUSULDebian, i was mistaken use a line like this 'umask 077'12:12
mibIVHi! I've tried to follow the WiFi-wiki but my wlan adapter won't show up with iwconfig...12:12
Lewixtoshiba something, anyway it's supposed to work I've checked and I've already try knoppix on it12:12
Debianok im lost now12:12
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BenUrbanDebian: edit your ~/.bash_profile12:13
Debianok geat my friend can access my /root/ folder too12:13
dnBlol Lewix toshiba what?12:13
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Razor-XmibIV: have you tried ndiswrapper?12:13
BenUrbanadd the following line somewhere: "umask 077"12:13
BenUrban(without the quotes)12:13
USCRyan*QUESTION* im trying to install java runtime, how do i know if i want the linux or the linux RPM? basically, what is RPM?12:13
mibIVRazor-X: Just installed it.12:13
BenUrbanUSCRyan: rpm = redhat package manager12:13
DebianBenUrban, 077 or 007 ?12:13
BenUrbanDebian: 07712:14
LewixdnB: Satellite toshiba M40/M45 series12:14
erUSUL!java12:14
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs12:14
USCRyanbenurban, thanks12:14
DebianBenUrban, what does it do12:14
Debian?12:14
BenUrbanDebian: then do this: chmod -R o-r-w-x $HOME12:14
Razor-XmibIV: have you used ``modprobe ndiswrapper'' ?12:14
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BenUrbanDebian: makes it so that all files you create in the future are only readable by you12:14
DebianBenUrban, ok done.12:14
BenUrbanby default12:14
mcmunt*Help: Each time I insert a CD it appears on the desk top but will not play or view properly??12:14
BenUrbanDebian: then you'll need to log out and log back in12:14
DebianBenUrban, ok great.. but my friend has entered my /root/ folder12:15
BenUrbanlol12:15
Jowimcmunt: what type of cd?12:15
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Debianand he can enter all other folders exept ubuntu12:15
mcmuntJowi: A normal music CD12:15
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mibIVRazor-X: It says "FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid argument12:15
Debianwhat?12:15
mibIV"12:15
Debian:/12:15
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BenUrbanDebian: sudo chmod -R g-r-x /root12:15
BenUrbanDebian: sudo chmod -R o-r-x /root12:15
Jowimcmunt: can you play it in gnome-cd ?12:15
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Razor-XmibIV: ``sudo modprobe ndiswrapper'' ?12:16
DebianBenUrban, what was the lol for? :p12:16
BenUrbanDebian: i noticed that /root was visible before12:17
Razor-XI wonder if I'm the *only* Ubuntu user using ratpoison as a wm12:17
Razor-X:)12:17
ShadyI'm having trouble accessing my... Access point. I've reset it and re-did the WEP key, and even then it doesn't want to work. It had at one time, but when I booted today it didn't12:17
Jowilol probably Razor-X12:17
mibIVRazor-X: Yep. Or rather, "modprobe ndiswrapper" in a root-terminal, but still...12:17
mcmuntJovi: Not sure, it plays in Banshee but I can't rip it with Rythmbox or Grip or view it through the desktop icon. Mount problem?12:17
Razor-XmibIV: ah12:17
Razor-XmibIV: what does a ``locate ndiswrapper | grep ko'' show up?12:17
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DebianBenUrban, ok12:18
DebianBenUrban, so its all good now12:18
Debian?12:18
BenUrbanshould be12:18
chrisx1./elocalX: cannot execute binary file12:18
chrisx1 Any Ideas?12:18
Jowimcmunt: maybe. the cdrom entry in /etc/fstab should be something like this: /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       012:18
mibIVRazor-X: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko12:18
`Evilwho got a trendnet wifi usb key please?12:18
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chrisx1./elocalX: cannot execute binary file Any Ideas?12:19
Kyralchmod +x?12:19
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holycowhi guys12:20
holycowanyone have recommendations for wireless pci cards?  i need to jump to a store and buy one soonish12:20
Razor-XmibIV: try ``sudo insmod /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko''12:20
Kyralholycow: Athereos ones are supported via MadWifi12:20
dragoonholycow: the atheros ones have good linux support12:20
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b_e_n_zholycow, any ralink based cards12:20
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holycowaha okay, atheros require no firmware downloads and config ... all autodetected, right?12:21
mcmuntJowi: Mmmm thats what it says . . . strange. Banshee seems to have no problems ripping it either.12:21
Kyralholycow: in the packaged Linux Kernels12:21
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KyralI mean you'll have to config for the Wireless Net you want to connect to12:21
Jowimcmunt: can soundjuicer rip it as well? problems with only that cd or any others as well?12:21
mibIVRazor-X: Hmm... I either get an error message or a weird ">" prompt...12:22
holycowKyral, yeah wifi radar makes that easy :)12:22
holycowallright thankya!12:22
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mibIVRazor-X: ?12:22
KyralI only use mine at home12:22
Comrade_Vladimirany one have a m robe 500i here that can tell me about it12:22
Razor-XmibIV: hmmm12:22
Comrade_Vladimiri no its not reall ythe channel12:22
Razor-XmibIV: hit enter, I guess12:23
Razor-XmibIV: or try ``sudo insmod /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko''12:23
mcmuntJowi: Not sure I know other CDs have worked. Will try some others later to try and nail it. Thanks for the help.12:23
KyralModprobe is better Razor-X12:23
Razor-XmibIV: or just simply ``cd /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko'' and then ``insmod ndiswrapper.ko''12:23
Razor-XKyral: modprobe refuses to work12:23
Kyraloh12:23
Razor-XKyral: in my experience, I've found that after you insmod, modprobe suddenly finds the driver12:23
Razor-X:)12:23
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KyralRazor-X: did he set it up with NDiswrapper Utils?12:24
n1nj4-TaNtenany1 here need som help12:24
Kyralyou should sudo depmod -a12:24
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Razor-XKyral: I 'unno12:24
Comrade_Vladimirno one has one? hmm ill try another channel12:24
n1nj4-TaNteni have just instaleld a basic debian system12:24
Razor-XKyral: these are my own experiences12:24
Jowimcmunt: no probs. might be that the cd is burnt very tight and that the cdrom-player has problem reading it or something. Stranger things have happened.12:24
n1nj4-TaNtenand i want to change my soruce file12:24
mibIVRazor-X: bash: cd: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko: is not a directory12:24
n1nj4-TaNtenso i can get ubuntu12:24
n1nj4-TaNtenhow do i do that?12:24
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bobbyd_hi12:24
n1nj4-TaNten!source12:24
uboturumour has it, source is to compile a source package, you first need to 'apt-get build-essential'. Some source packages have other dependencies, such as KDE or Gnome development libraries also.12:24
Kyralubotu tell n1nj4-TaNten about easysources12:25
Kyralubotu tell n1nj4-TaNten about easysource12:25
Razor-XmibIV: errr :P ``cd /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper'' ``sudo insmod ndiswrapper.ko''12:25
bobbyd_what's the easiest way to connect to a windows vpn from ubuntu?12:25
bobbyd_is there some GUI app to do it?12:25
dragoonn1nj4-TaNten: you download the ubuntu iso?12:25
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Kyraln1nj4-TaNten: listen to ubotu12:25
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Javaliohi i have a question12:25
bushitohow can i change my screen resolution??12:25
Javaliodoes ubunut support the ati x700 pro graphics adapter12:25
KyralJavalio: how old is that...12:26
mibIVRazor-X: insmod: error inserting 'ndiswrapper.ko': -1 Invalid parameters12:26
erUSUL!tell bushito about fixres12:26
Kyralit SHOULD12:26
dragoonyea it should12:26
Kyralbut as if fglrx does is another story12:26
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n1nj4-TaNtenbreezy or Hoary??12:26
n1nj4-TaNtenwhat is the difference?12:26
testmach1nebreezy12:26
proxosiyo guys.. after i mount the partition.. i add antoher hd into the seconday main... but i cant see it in linux12:26
dragoonbreezy12:26
testmach1nebreezy is newer12:26
n1nj4-TaNten:p lol thx12:26
proxosibios see its but ubuntu doesnt12:26
Razor-XmibIV: hmmm....12:26
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Javalio5.1012:26
miki_hola!!!12:26
Javaliolike i just ttied to start it up and x wouldnt start12:26
Razor-XmibIV: did you compile the module?12:26
Kyral5.10 == Breezy12:26
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erUSULproxosi, no /dev/hdc??12:27
erUSULproxosi, no /dev/hdd??12:27
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proxosihow do u list the hd u have?12:27
miki_ay alguien ke able espaol!!??12:27
proxosiforgot the command12:27
Kyralsudo fdisk -l12:27
Razor-X!es12:27
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.12:27
Kyralmiki_: #ubuntu-es12:27
chrisx1hey where can i get curses/ncurses from12:28
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proxosiit doesnt show there12:28
Kyralhmm12:28
miki_ahhhh12:28
miki_va12:28
bobbyd_anyone?12:28
mibIVRazor-X: I followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto - no more, no less.12:28
Kyralcheck your Bios settings12:28
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Kyralbobbyd_: what is it?12:28
n1nj4-TaNtenon http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic what is the second thing ubuntu supported packages12:28
erUSULproxosi, ls /dev/hd*12:28
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chrisx1hey where can i get curses/ncurses from12:28
n1nj4-TaNtenshould i marke the other 4 sqares12:28
ubuntukinghello all12:29
n1nj4-TaNtenPackages12:29
n1nj4-TaNtensources12:29
Razor-Xchrisx1: aptitude search curses12:29
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Kyraln1nj4-TaNten: yah12:29
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bobbyd_Kyral, bobbyd_ what's the easiest way to connect to a windows vpn from ubuntu?12:29
proxosihd*?12:29
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MiSS_n00b!tell MiSS_n00b about nvidia12:29
KyralEverything before ALL REPOS BELOW THIS LINE are official and supported12:30
n1nj4-TaNtenon my laptop how do i edit the soruce list now?12:30
harfoozhi all -- I got mplayer to work as the default player of the apple.com/trailers videos: moved the totem-related files from the mozilla plugins directory.12:30
Kyralsudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list12:30
n1nj4-TaNtenoki sorry for asking what is sudo?12:30
Kyralubotu: tell n1nj4-TaNten about RootSudo12:31
sioraiokay, so how do I rip entire images, ie , ISO s?12:31
mibIVRazor-X: Perhaps if I reboot the system again?12:31
Razor-XmibIV: unfortunately, I'm going to have to leave for a bit12:31
Kyraln1nj4-TaNten: our friendly bot has provided a nice link12:31
erUSULproxosi, * a shell wilcard12:31
Kyral!botsnack12:31
ubotuthanks kyral :)12:31
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mibIVRazor-X: Ok. Thanks, anyway!12:31
proxosierusul: i see hda hda1 2 5       hdc 1 2 512:31
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KyralerUSUL: you mean the 50lb Unix Manuals?12:31
Razor-XKyral: no, like reading man pages :)12:32
chrisx1Why Cant Linux Be As Easy As Windowz?12:32
Kyral....12:32
Kyralchrisx1....12:32
siorai'cause then linux would suck too12:32
siorai\; )12:32
KyralI can be12:33
Kyrals/I/it12:33
Razor-Xchrisx1: ``Why can't I get free money?''12:33
erUSULKyral, hdc is the second disc you were talking about, right?12:33
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Kyralhuh?12:33
Kyralwha?12:33
chrisx1u can12:33
chrisx1rob a bank?12:33
djk_Razor-X: because you're not good looking :p12:33
Kyral....12:33
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Kyralchrisx1: The reason I stick around now is because I believe in it12:33
erUSUL!enter12:33
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!12:33
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KyralI make a difference. I can't with MS12:34
Comrade_Vladimirany one have a m robe 500i here that can tell me about it12:34
lordluclessNet access appears slower on my newly-installed ubuntu box than my windows one. Anyone kno what could cause that?12:34
KyralI think it may be a Firefox issue12:34
Jowichrisx1: you just have to re-think since it is a different operating system. once you get use to it it will become second nature, just as windows appear for you now.12:34
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Kyralchrisx1: I can't use Windows anymore12:34
KyralI am serious12:34
chrisx1i find windows umm12:35
lordluclessKyral, was that to me?12:35
chrisx1a little annoying12:35
feugan3333Does "apt-get --reinstall packageName" replace config files12:35
Kyrallordlucless: the first thing I said yes12:35
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chrisx1the fact u cant run half the stuff u can on linux on windows12:35
Kyralfeugan3333: no12:35
lordluclessta, Ill whack in another browser and see if its better then12:35
Kyralfeugan3333: sudo apt-get --reinstall install <packagename> does :D12:36
ubun-newbiehow do i make a tcp connection12:36
Kyralubun-newbie: what kind12:36
feugan3333Kyral: Thanks12:36
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lymzhey folks, what's a good xml viewer?12:36
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erUSULlymz, emacs ;)12:37
Kyrallymz: uhh...Firefox?12:37
chrisx1lolz think my isp tryin to cut my net off12:37
chrisx1:P12:37
ubun-newbietcp syn connection12:37
erUSULlymz, mlview12:37
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Kyralubun-newbie: again what kind12:37
Kyralwhy12:37
erUSULubun-newbie, programming??12:37
chrisx1cos they was told to take payment from direct debit and havent12:37
Jowilordlucless: i think you can change some settings in firefox; about:config for that. could also be that ubuntu's got ipv6 support set up. I heard some people say that ipv6 is the thief. i haven't seen the difference myself.12:37
ubun-newbiesort of12:37
lymzsay i want to open an opendocument file, (which is xml), firefox didn't display it12:37
chrisx1so the bill hasnt been payed like they was told12:38
chrisx1but o well12:38
chrisx1they have trouble12:38
erUSULlymz, have you unzipped it?12:38
lymzerUSUL, no, i didn't realize it was zipped12:38
spolaand since he absolutely wanted to make music i decided to give him a street organ and a violin. the latter, he responded, sounds terrible and he happily walked away with the turning organ. and that, my friend, is the tragedy of the operating system12:39
GTroyok this is gonna sound crazy, but how do I find my **user_name** as compared to my actual user name?12:39
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lordluclessJovi: Ta, Ill have a look at that12:39
KyralGTroy: huh?12:39
GTroytold you it was gonna sound crazy12:39
JowiGTroy: in a terminal "whoami"12:39
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KyralYah it does lol12:39
djk_spola: what the deuce?12:39
GTroyJowi: cool thanks12:39
GTroythat'll give me my actual user name?12:40
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erUSULGTroy, that give you the user the system thinks you are12:41
JowiGTroy: ummm, i have the same loginname and username so i guess.... test it12:41
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GTroythat's the way (I think) mine is setup too12:41
JowiGTroy: "id -n" works too12:42
spoladjk_, i dunno i always thinks thats appropriate when someone compains linux is harder than windows :-p12:42
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djk_spola: oh, I prefer mentioning that Microsoft has the same abbreviation as Multiple Sclerosis. In a way, they are similar.12:43
GTroyJowi: cool12:43
JowiGTroy: id --help for more12:43
ompauldjk_, not really in line with the CoC12:43
djk_ompaul: uhm?12:43
ompaulwe will out nice them12:44
GTroyJowi: that's what I needed12:44
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Debianpeople cant download files from my webserver why ??12:44
Debianits all locked12:44
ompauldjib,  https://launchpad.net/codeofconduct/1.012:45
djk_ompaul: uhm, check out the symptoms of MS and what they may lead to and compare it to windows ;)12:45
proxosiyo guys.. hhow can i dl firefox?12:45
proxosiin ubuntu?12:45
proxosior update or reinstall12:45
ompaulproxosi, it is there12:45
spolaDebian, what error do you get ? does your apache have read access to the files ? not behind a firewall ?12:45
proxosiompaul:  i know that12:45
Jowiproxosi: sudo apt-get install firefox12:46
Jowiproxosi: apt-get --help for more options12:46
ompaulproxosi, as Jowi said but I don't understand your first question now12:46
Debianspola, no the site works fine .. but people just cant download files12:46
Debiani dont know what access it has12:47
Debianand the error is ou don't have permission to access /802.rm on this server.12:47
djibah, c'est pas pour moi12:47
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ompaul!dr12:47
ubotuompaul: I don't know, could you explain it?12:47
ompaul!fr12:47
ubotuVa a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais12:47
Jacque1hello guy's. I've a problem with my display... if i go tho the console its somehow displaced... somebody an idea?12:47
spolaDebian, whats in the apache error log ?12:47
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JowiJacque1: are you using a LCD monitor or CRT?12:48
ompaulJacque1, can you give more detail or a screenshot?12:48
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Jacque1Jowi: lcd12:48
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djibompaul, what I meant is that someone accidentaly typed in my name12:49
Jacque1ompaul: how can i make a screenshot in the Console? Console like: Ctrl Alt F1...12:49
JowiJacque1: most LCD has got a "native" resolution. mine's got 1280x1024. the console is not a native resolution so it just guess a placement for it. press autoadjust on your display.12:49
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djibbut I also didn't realise that the chan was in English ;)12:49
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Debianspola, i dont know where is it located?12:49
lymzthanks for that top erUSUL (unzip file)12:49
lymzerrr tip12:49
Jacque1Jowi: mine is 1400x105012:49
spolaJacque1, thats probably a problem with your video drivers, and since they're probably binary you're basically skruwt, i have the same problem with my ATI12:49
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spolaDebian, sheeesh google it pleaaase12:50
Jacque1Jowi: but i got the problem that i don't realy know my VertRefresh and HorizSync of the xorg...12:50
erUSULlymz, np12:50
MiSS_n00bhi I have a primary slave drive, i have to be root to write to it can i change these permissions?12:50
Jacque1spola: Mine is also an ati...12:50
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spoladebian: but try /var/log/apache2/error.log12:51
Debianokay12:51
JowiJacque1: same there. the native resolution is what the display work in. it will support other resolutions but it does not support a text-resolution. that is normal. ALL LCD work with a VertRefresh of 60. HorizSync is not needed.12:51
erUSULJacque1, if it is lcd it really does not matter much12:51
lsuactiafnerATI is teh suck12:51
ompauldjib, sorry was trying to find the spelling of >>d'acor<< which I know is not right but you most likely know what I mean :-)12:51
Debianspola, [Thu Dec 08 01:40:51 2005]  [error]  [client 212.36.207.181]  (13)Permission denied: file permissions deny server access: /var/$12:51
lsuactiafnernvidia is best for nxi12:51
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spolaJacque1, yeah i think yr screwed then, try to live with using konsole/gnome-terminal12:52
Jacque1is lcd equal tft?12:52
djibompaul, yes ;)12:52
djibit is : d'accord12:52
Jacque1it's a laptop...12:52
Jacque1d'accord....12:52
spolabut if you can fix it, let me know ;-)12:52
Jacque1:D12:52
ompauldjib, (just to continue the pun) ok12:52
oxez12:52
oxezwow sorry12:52
spolaDebian, re-check the permissions on DOCUMENT_ROOT/802.rm and make sure they end with "r--"12:53
Debianso man12:53
djiblol12:53
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ompauloxez, your okay, wow left the channel days ago12:53
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Jacque1spola: what about installing the newest drivers of ati? do you think this could change it maybe?12:53
Debianspola how can i make them end with r--12:53
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JowiJacque1: sorry, there is no fix for lcd's :-) you'll have to live with it if your monitor does not have a "autoadjust" or you might fix it by pressing the key-combinations on the keyboard that turn the monitor off/on.12:53
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Debianall the www .. (or is it dangerous)12:53
MiSS_n00bany ideas people? i need to change my primary slave drive so that all users can write to it, not just root12:53
djibyou wouldn't happen to know a cool software for editing videos ?12:53
oxezompaul: what? lol12:53
n1nj4-TaNtenwhen i have edited my source file with nano and i press save it says that i can't save it with that name12:53
n1nj4-TaNten?12:53
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djibI'm using vlc to record videos with my webcam12:53
spolaDebian, nah not really, do chmod -R +r DOCUMENT_ROOT12:53
djibbut I want to add music to it, and to shorten it12:54
erUSULMiSS_n00b, how it is mounted? via fstab manually?12:54
spolaJacque1, i doubt that, i think im using the latest and "greatest" and it still doesnt work12:54
JowiMiSS_n00b: in /etc/fstab options for the drive, add "umask=000"12:54
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djibkino doen't seem to be able to import files12:54
Debianok12:54
MiSS_n00bit mounts at boot12:54
spolanever got it work on gentoo either12:54
lordluclessn1nj4-TaNten, Might be you dont have write permission for that file. Use sudo when editing that file12:54
djibmy god this chan is busy12:54
JowiMiSS_n00b: example: /dev/hda7       /media/data       vfat    defaults,umask=000        0       012:54
Jacque1very unfortunate...12:55
Jacque1but actually doesn't matter... I will survive!12:55
n1nj4-TaNteni tried to use sudo i didn know what it was12:55
n1nj4-TaNten:S12:55
spolaJacque1, i dunno i dont really miss it ... although i wish there was a way to get gnome-terminal work in fullscreen but only because it looks l33t12:55
lordluclesstry "sudo nano <yourfilename>"12:55
n1nj4-TaNtenso i have to write everything from the start12:55
lordluclessIt will ask you for your root password12:55
erUSUL!tell n1nj4-TaNten about sudo12:55
n1nj4-TaNtencan i copy my stuff12:55
MiSS_n00bjowi can u plz explain in noob terms :P12:56
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MiSS_n00b:(12:56
JowiJacque1: yeah, i'm in the same situation i'm afraid. my wifes laptop handle it so-so, but my 300 euro monitor doesn't quite. had to fiddle with the monitor buttons to adjust it manually12:56
spolalordlucless, root password? on ubuntu? unlikely ...12:56
erUSULlordlucless, it will ask for your user pass12:56
Jacque1but i have also the problem that it flacers... how do you say...12:56
chrisx1Touch screen Fawked up my xserver12:56
chrisx1fixed now tho12:56
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Jacque1es flackert... :)12:56
JowiMiSS_n00b: yep. you will have to edit this file: /etc/fstab. the fstab file contain the info of what disks is mounted at boot and later. to make the disk you want writeable for everyone you need to add the "umask=000" to it12:57
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MiSS_n00bok12:57
timmy334I'm getting this when trying to startx: Skipping /usr/x11r6/lib/modules/extensions/libglcore.a no symbols found Fatal Server Error caught signal 412:57
MiSS_n00bso gedit /etc/fstab?12:57
JowiMiSS_n00b: in a terminal type "sudo nano /etc/fstab"12:57
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MiSS_n00bok12:57
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JowiMiSS_n00b: yeah, sudo gedit /etc/fstab works too12:57
timmy334anybody know why xorg on a fresh breezy install would be that borked?12:58
JowiMiSS_n00b: use the editor you are most comfortable with12:58
Jacque1so, thank you for your help!12:58
nathi12:58
Jowiyou're welcome Jacque112:58
djibso no one knows a good video editing software12:59
djibor how to import videos in kino12:59
djibavidemux and cinerella are not available in ubuntu12:59
timmy334djib, I think cinerella might be one12:59
timmy334lol12:59
djibI'm looking for something simple12:59
djibtimmy334, ^^12:59
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djibjust like movie maker for example12:59
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MiSS_n00bok so it says "/dev/hdb1       /media/hdb1     ext3    defaults,users" , do i change it to say "/dev/hdb1       /media/hdb1     ext3    defaults,users unmask=000" ?01:00
timmy334I'd love to have your problem, I just did a FEW clean installs of Breezy and X refuses to work01:00
JowiMiSS_n00b: "defaults,users,umask=000"01:00
gleesondhow big should I make my swap partition on a 160g hard drive?01:00
gleesondI have one gig of ram01:00
timmy334gleesond, rule of thumb is 2x your RAM size01:00
JowiMiSS_n00b: you have to be exact "unmask" doesn't mean a thing while "umask" does.01:01
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MiSS_n00bok thanks.  will i need to reboot before it applies the changes?01:01
Kyralgleesond: you don't need one01:01
hyphenatedarchaic and now inapplicable rule of thumb, that one01:01
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proxosihi guys01:01
timmy334true01:01
erUSULMiSS_n00b, no01:01
proxosiim tryint to install flash on ff01:01
djibI'll trys cinerella01:01
djibI've just downloaded the rpm01:01
timmy334djib, good luck on that one01:01
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djibthx timmy33401:01
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JowiMiSS_n00b: you can do "sudo umount /media/hdb1" and then "sudo mount -a"01:02
Swe3tDavetimmy334, i understand  you.. i have a dual cpu system, and my computer hang with the ubuntu-smp kernel..01:02
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Argblatcan anyone suggest a KVM Switch to run Windows XP + Ubuntu 5.10?01:02
proxosisudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla << give me error E: Couldn't find package flashplayer-mozilla01:02
djibNice fortune : The economy depends about as much on economists as the weather does on weather forecasters. -- Jean-Paul Kauffmann01:02
janopotterhola tengo un drama desde ayer y no lo puedo hacer01:03
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n1nj4-TaNtenit says that it dosnt know hat sudo is???01:03
erUSULjanopotter, vete a #ubuntu-es por favor esto es un canal en ingles01:03
n1nj4-TaNteni am using debain not ubuntu01:03
n1nj4-TaNtennot ywt01:03
djibponingru, it's in multiverse01:03
n1nj4-TaNtenyet01:03
janopotterthanks01:04
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djibdo you have that is your sources poningru01:04
djib?01:04
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Jowin1nj4-TaNten: you must install sudo on some distros for it to work. 'sudo' is optional in Slackware as well.01:05
n1nj4-TaNtenokay man how do i install it01:05
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n1nj4-TaNteni have to do an update01:06
n1nj4-TaNtento get all the appz01:06
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djibapt-cache search sudo n1c0las_01:06
djibn1nj4-TaNten,01:06
n1nj4-TaNtenyea but i cant do apt-catch01:06
djib?01:06
n1nj4-TaNtenbetcause i have to edit my soruce list01:06
djiboh01:06
djibyou don't have any source ?01:06
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n1nj4-TaNtenmy soruce list contains 1 link i think01:07
Ophiocussweet, i locked myself out of internet, how can i remove things like samba and dhcp and dns servers?01:07
n1nj4-TaNtenfor some debian sorce01:07
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Ophiocusand ip tables01:07
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binarydigitis there anyway to parse fstab without rebooting01:07
binarydigitlike source it someway01:07
djibn1nj4-TaNten, why sudo wouldn't be in it ?01:07
n1nj4-TaNteni can try01:07
proxosisudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla <<       give me error E: Couldn't find package flashplayer-mozilla01:07
n1nj4-TaNtenbrb01:07
Jowibinarydigit: sudo mount -a01:08
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binarydigitthanks01:08
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djibProtectYaNeck, I asked you is you have added multiverse to your depots01:08
Plazmafor my senior project i chose ubuntu as the OS for my MythTV box, i showed my instructor the power and capabilites of Ubuntu and he was thoroughly impressed, brought a smile to my face01:08
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doin2006can sum1 help me please01:09
djibproxosi, I asked you is you have added multiverse to your depots01:09
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Jowidoin2006: ask a precise question and you might be lucky01:09
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doin2006can i get aol broadband to work on ubuntu01:09
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erUSULdoin2006, the problem is?01:10
Argblatcan anyone suggest a KVM Switch to run Windows XP + Ubuntu 5.10?01:10
PlazmaArgblat, any should be just fine01:10
dragoonany kvm....01:10
dragooni have some 20$ cheapo thing01:10
n1nj4-TaNteni typed apt-cache search sudo01:11
dragoondoes 4x pcs no problem01:11
PlazmaKVM's appear invisible anyway, so any should work01:11
n1nj4-TaNteni just doropped down 1 line01:11
n1nj4-TaNtenand nothing happened01:11
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dragoonsudo is installed default isnt it ?01:11
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n1nj4-TaNtennot on me01:11
n1nj4-TaNten:s01:11
Jowin1nj4-TaNten: apt-get update01:11
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n1nj4-TaNteni dont have it01:11
doin2006erUSUL im gonna install ubuntu but how do i get aol broadband to work on it01:11
Kyral....01:11
KyralAOL is the DEVIL01:11
n1nj4-TaNtenshould i do an update01:11
dragoonusb or ethernet connection01:12
Jowin1nj4-TaNten: yes. so that apt reloads your sources.list01:12
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Razor-Xdoin2006: if it works through a standard modem without special AOL crap through ethernet, you should be fine01:12
Argblatdragoon - would you mind telling me the switch you have...i don't want to spend any more money than I have to01:12
T6km weit weg wohnt?01:12
n1nj4-TaNteni have to change my source list01:12
dragoonum01:12
n1nj4-TaNteni dont want to have the appz in there01:12
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n1nj4-TaNtenhow can i do it01:12
n1nj4-TaNten?01:12
dragoongimme a sec :)01:12
Argblathaha thanks01:12
dragoonthis was $20 AU aswell :)01:12
dragoonbargin01:12
doin2006razor that must be a no then cause it has to use aol dialer software01:12
Razor-Xi.e. you should be able to take the connection you have and plug it into a totally new Windows box, and have it work out of the box01:12
Jowin1nj4-TaNten: why don't you just install ubuntu on another partition to try it out?01:13
doin2006DAMN01:13
lordluclessAnyone know a good reference for setting up bind?01:13
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Razor-Xdoin2006: can you use standard Windows PPPoE?01:13
dragoonits a Zonet01:13
doin2006razor i dont know what you mean01:13
n1nj4-TaNtenJowi becaus i have just installed debain bevause i dont have any cd-rom01:13
doin2006how do i set that up01:13
Razor-Xdoin2006: google it, I suggest01:13
Jowin1nj4-TaNten: ah. ok.01:13
n1nj4-TaNtenand all i want is to edit my soruce.list01:14
doin2006ok thanks01:14
dragoonwell use su ?01:14
Razor-Xthat's how I got about learning about the ethernet protocols when I first got ethernet, and Windows support is out of the scope of the channel01:14
n1nj4-TaNtenbut i won't let me01:14
dragoonwell login as root ?01:14
n1nj4-TaNtenokay but how do i change login01:14
n1nj4-TaNten?01:14
Razor-X*ethernet DSL01:14
dragoonoh01:14
dragoonubuntu?01:14
n1nj4-TaNtendebian01:14
dragoondebian should ask you to specify a password01:15
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dragoonin setup01:15
n1nj4-TaNtenyea when i start01:15
dragoonfor root01:15
jvaishyt.. i cant use nmap unless i'm root! i dont think it's safe to make a root account01:15
Jowin1nj4-TaNten: if you can log in as root, why do you need sudo?01:15
n1nj4-TaNtenbut i enterd my account01:15
n1nj4-TaNtenbut i also have e root account01:15
Razor-Xjvai: yeah you can01:15
dragoonwell login as root01:15
jvaihow?01:15
dragoonand ubuntu has a root account01:15
Razor-Xjvai: simply ``nmap pramaters''01:15
dragoonjust because you cant directly access it is another thing01:15
n1nj4-TaNtenbut how do i login as root01:15
dragoontype the username root ?01:16
KyralYou don't01:16
jvaithe terminal nmap looks promising.. not the gui frontend tho01:16
Razor-XI believe -sS and some other scans don't work without having root privileges, but I don't remember all of 'em offhand01:16
n1nj4-TaNtenhehe i know that but do i have ro restart my laptop01:16
Razor-Xwell yeah, I implied terminal nmap01:16
n1nj4-TaNtenor can i enter something to change account01:16
dragoonno you dont01:16
n1nj4-TaNten?01:16
dragoonjust logout ?01:16
jvaioooo type "nmap parameters in term?01:16
n1nj4-TaNtencommand?01:16
dragoonexit logs out01:16
n1nj4-TaNtenoki01:16
Razor-Xjvai: not verbatim01:16
n1nj4-TaNten:D01:16
Jowin1nj4-TaNten: if you can edit sources.list you already are root01:16
jvailol01:16
n1nj4-TaNtenthx01:16
n1nj4-TaNteni cant edit it yet01:16
Razor-Xjvai: you need to pass the parameters you want01:16
bushitowhere can i get the bz2 archive program?01:16
jvaiooo01:16
jvaiok01:17
dragoontar jxvf01:17
Razor-Xjvai: open up the nmap manpage, and take a nice read01:17
jvaiok01:17
jvai that's nmap -m?01:17
Jowibushito: it's called bunzip201:17
Razor-Xsimply ``man nmap''01:17
jvaioo ok01:17
Razor-X(unless you use some other sort of tool to view your nmap manpage)01:17
erUSULbushito, apt-gat install bzip201:17
Razor-Xerrr, manpages in general01:18
bushitoohhh!!! xD, lol my bad thx01:18
jvaigotit!! thx razor..01:18
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Razor-Xjvai: you've never used man before?01:18
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jvaiyes.. i have.. but the shortcuts on the man in the terminal.. dont make sense01:19
erUSUL!enter01:19
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!01:19
Razor-Xjvai: hitting space to scroll down pages is insensible? :P01:19
djibconfigure: error: jpeglib.h not found - please install the libjpeg headers01:19
MiSS_n00bsomething stuffed up mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb101:19
Razor-Xand using the arrow keys seems to be supported to01:19
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djibwhat package do you think I should install01:19
jvainooo. when i try out the commands.. i alwayz get "command not found"01:20
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Jowidjib: libjpeg most likely01:20
jvailike ":nmap-sP"01:20
MiSS_n00bhey a kiwi:D01:20
djibyes but there are many of them Jowi01:20
Razor-Xjvai: .... you don't type that in01:20
jvai<-- learning01:20
Razor-Xjvai: do you understand what a manpage is? :P01:20
Jowidjib: apt-cache search --names-only libjpeg01:20
sioraiis there a way I can take OFF write protection ?01:20
jvaii know what it is..01:21
djibsorry they seem to be all dependant to one another anyway Jowi01:21
Razor-Xjvai: then why are you passing it nmap-sP ?01:21
MiSS_n00bhow do i edit that fstab thing again?01:21
jvai>:/01:21
Jowidjib: libjpeg62-dev is the one01:21
jvai<-- learning01:21
JowiMiSS_n00b: sudo gedit /etc/fstab01:21
Razor-Xjvai: ``man man''01:21
NikopolMiSS_n00b, you want the program to use or the ins and outs of how to setup fstab?01:21
djibyes, well I installed the mmx package and it installed this one Jowi01:22
djibthanks01:22
jvaiok01:22
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Razor-Xthat's about as basic as it can get :)01:22
MiSS_n00bty. jowi it wont mount after adding that user=000 thing01:22
jvaiok.. thnx razor01:22
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MiSS_n00bnikopol im trying to make the slave drive so all users can write to it01:22
JowiMiSS_n00b: it's because i told you to be precise. you should NOT add "user=000" you should add ",umask=000"01:23
MiSS_n00byeah whatever it was01:23
djibmy god cinerella is a pain to compile01:23
NikopolMiSS_n00b. can you paste your fstab to the pastebin?01:23
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Razor-Xjvai: don't worry, we'll make an emacs convert out of you yet :P01:24
MiSS_n00b this is the line /dev/hdb1       /media/hdb1     ext3    defaults,users,umask=00001:24
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MiSS_n00bdo u want the whole fstab01:24
Nikopolnah that's good01:24
Nikopolthanks01:24
djibit's user no ?01:24
qt2anyone have any aperience converting multiple avi's to mp3g 2 for use on one dvd?01:24
djibnot users01:24
JowiMiSS_n00b: did you remove the two "0        0" at the end of the line?01:24
jvailol..01:24
MiSS_n00bno there wasnt any01:25
NikopolMiSS_n00b, user not users ;)01:25
qt2lmao...01:25
lordluclessCan anyone suggest a good resource for understanding bind config?01:25
MiSS_n00b:S01:25
Elektrochelovekwhere ir can get recovery cd with grub?01:25
dragoonhttp://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/DNS-HOWTO.html01:25
dragooncheck out that lordlucless01:25
MiSS_n00bi didnt change  anything except the umask=000 bit01:25
lordluclessta01:25
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NikopolMiSS_n00b, I'm not sure it will work without the 0 0 at the end f the line01:25
bobbyd_ptpconfig should be in the Ubuntu distro01:25
jvairazor.. is using nmap from a terminal.. maore powerful than the frontend?01:26
bobbyd_pptpconfig even01:26
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NikopolHere's what one of my line looks like: /dev/hdb1       /files          ext2    rw,user         0       001:26
MiSS_n00bok lol so does it matter how many spaces are between the 0 001:26
dragoonnope01:26
NikopolMiSS_n00b, Dont' think so01:26
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MiSS_n00bk and i'll change it from users to user then?01:26
Nikopolyep01:26
Razor-Xjvai: generally, yeah01:27
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jvaiok.. "uninstalling nmapfe"01:27
Jowicu Nikopol01:27
MiSS_n00bok ty brb01:27
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Razor-Xjvai: using anything from a terminal is generally more powerful, depends how comfortable you really are with the CLI01:27
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Nikopolcya Jowi01:27
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jvaii need to study more from CLI.... shyt .. batrry's dying.. & i'm in tryst.. & it's crowded!!01:28
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janopotterbuntu-es01:28
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Razor-Xtryst?01:29
djibis anyone using draper ?01:29
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jvaiit a cafe.. in dc.. w/ wifi01:29
djibI want to know if it is stable enough to be used as a desktop01:29
jvaiin adams-morgan01:29
Razor-XWashington D.C. ?01:29
jvaiyea01:29
Plazmajvai, CLI isnt to hard, just a lot to it01:30
Plazmaat times01:30
Razor-Xcool01:30
Razor-Xthe most effecient way to learn is to go 3 weeks X-less01:30
Razor-Xbut *nobody* wants to do that nowadays :)01:30
PlazmaRazor-X, yea very true01:30
jvaii cant find an open outlet.. >:(01:30
Plazmai like my eye candy01:30
jvaipeac peeps.. brb01:30
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Razor-XPlazma: I love the CLI quite a bit, but urxvt just puts the fun back in terminal01:30
proxosi<< have a problem....... cant see the other hd from secondary ide01:31
Razor-XI do go very minimalistic in X, generally, using ratpoison, urxvt, and a few other choise apps01:31
Razor-X(like a graphical web browser)01:31
djiband cinerella removes the fun from compiling...01:31
PlazmaRazor-X, do you use the box as your main workstation?01:31
Razor-XPlazma: yeahp01:31
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PlazmaRazor-X, im a gamer and all around handy guy.. do web graphics, all that stuff01:31
Razor-XPlazma: ahh, I guess01:32
Razor-XI like to game when my schoolwork hands me the time01:32
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MiSS_n00bits still not working :(01:32
Razor-Xbut other than that, I simply read manga or watch anime on the box, and listen to music, but other than that, I don't have much by the way of media01:32
PlazmaRazor-X, well i try to find and make time when i can.. in fact my grandpa just bought us 2 small rc cars to chase our cats with.. gotta have fun once in a while01:32
Razor-XPlazma: it gets tough around 10th grade, next year is do-or-die for me01:33
PlazmaRazor-X, so you use X just for those purposes.. ie the manga and stuff01:33
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PlazmaRazor-X, im a sr in college so i know more than what you mean01:33
Razor-Xthese two years are my college-determining years, so, yeah01:33
Razor-X:)01:33
potuscan someone tell me the exact tar command to take a snapshop of my entire / ?01:33
potuskeep gettings errors with /dev and such01:33
Razor-XPlazma: pretty much, and to make the terminal look pretty01:33
PlazmaRazor-X, i have my senior project due in 10 weeks, but its going well so i should have it done by week 401:33
Razor-X(a custom color scheme, basically)01:33
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proxosican some help me get to access my other hd in secondary main.. .BIOS able to see it there.. but linux cant01:33
Razor-XI do all my homework in the CLI, though01:33
PlazmaRazor-X, yea? like typing papers and stuff01:34
Razor-XI guess my own thought patterns are suited *better* to the CLI, I'm not a very graphical person01:34
mr_daemonpotus, tar cvjpf archive.tar.gz /01:34
Razor-XPlazma: yeahp, all that good stuff01:34
Razor-Xalthough spreadsheets pose a challenge01:34
potusmr_daemon that will preserve ownerships and such?01:34
PlazmaRazor-X, yea see im both.. i like my graphical stuff, and xorg and open office do wonders for me01:34
mr_daemonpotus, That's what the "p" is for.01:34
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Razor-XPlazma: X.Org is awesome, that I admit to. But O.o is a bit... overkill01:35
mr_daemonpotus, And I screwed up, that should be tar.bz201:35
potusmr_daemon: woohoo.. thanks sure01:35
MiSS_n00bwhat was the cmd to edit fstab again?01:35
Razor-Xat this point, I simply use it to make my Japanese flash cards01:35
MiSS_n00bmine is so screwed01:35
MiSS_n00b:((01:35
PlazmaRazor-X, OO is nice i think, nice free ms alternative01:35
mr_daemonpotus: No problemo. I have backed up and restored to new drives countless machines that way. Works wonders.01:35
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Razor-XPlazma: most of my documents are done in LaTeX, it's a pretty viable alternative to WYSIWYG, if you can take the initial learning curve (which isn't very hard at all)01:36
potusmr_daemon whats the extract command for that?01:36
bushitohhhmm, what files do i need for Ubuntu to identify and play mp3 and avi and all others popular extensions to run?01:36
mkyb14anyone install the ati drivers from the wiki page... its quite confusing01:36
NikopolMiSS_n00b, sudo gedit /etc/fstab01:36
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mr_daemonpotus, Same, just replace the c with an x --> tar xvjpf archive.tar.bz201:36
PlazmaRazor-X, ahh, well i use many diff OS's as well, plus i like my gui01:36
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FujitsuI am sure that we can deconfuzzle t, mkyb14.01:36
MiSS_n00bty. i dont know what i've done wrong but the drive wont mount now:(01:36
potusmr_daemon: so if my drive wipes i can just do cfdisk,  mount, tar, reboot?01:37
bimberiubotu tell bushito about restricted01:37
mkyb14?01:37
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Razor-XPlazma: I also have a friend who offers a free SSH account to me, with a full LaTeX distribution01:37
mr_daemonpotus, given you reinstall your grub, yes.01:37
Razor-X:)01:37
FujitsuWhat is confusing you, mkyb14?01:37
Razor-Xbut yeah, GUI is GUI, CLI is CLI, it's your own choice01:37
Nikopolbrb01:37
Debianmysql> CREATE DATABASE token;01:37
DebianIgnoring query to other database01:37
Debianwhy is that01:37
mrkrishiya, trying to get Apache2 setup with SSL. I created the SSL certs, put in /etc/ssl then symlinked the ssl.conf + ssl.load into mods-enabled -- what am I missing? (if anything)01:37
jgrievesare westill having hte gui versus cli debate01:38
potuscool..  sounds simple.. i'm doing this because i dont trust all this raid i been tring to setup.. i have a feeling something gonna go wrong soon01:38
mr_daemonpotus, I have done this last week on my Quad Xeon server running Gentoo. I just put the livecd in, sftp over my tarball, and extract.01:38
Plazmajgrieves, not a debate, just random blurbs about each01:38
Plazmai personally like both01:38
Plazmathats just me01:38
jgrievesPlazma oh I see new people are here :)01:38
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Razor-Xjgrieves: I'm not debating, and I hope Plazma isn't, I go much more ferocious in a debate01:38
Plazmajgrieves, i pop in from time to time01:38
jgrieves Razor-X gotcha01:39
PlazmaRazor-X, same here.. im as bullheaded as a lawyer01:39
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Plazmabut im not debating01:39
Razor-XPlazma: heh01:39
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Plazmajust random shootin the breeze01:39
n1nj4-TaNteni have edited my source list now but i cant run apt-get update01:39
Razor-Xlike I said, it's what suits your style, I'm one of the odd few that work better with words and numbers01:39
Razor-X(and let me say, my art is attrocious)01:39
jgrievesyou were shooting breezy...jerk01:39
mr_daemonpotus, did this to enlarge the raid 5 array of one drive :P I did my archive that way though (in /): for i in * ; do tar cvzpf $i.tar.gz $i && md5sum $i.tar.gz > $i.tar.gz.md5 ; done01:39
Razor-Xjgrieves: :D01:39
Plazmajgrieves, never :D01:39
mrkrisanyone here use Apache2 + SSL under ubuntu ?01:39
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potusmrkris: just apache2 and php01:40
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n1nj4-TaNteni runts throw a lot of text and gives an error something E:01:40
williamHow do I enable 3d graphic card acceleration?01:40
mrkrispotus, i'm trying to figure out why i can't get SSL to work01:40
potusmrkris: the trick is make the modules activate01:40
potussec01:40
NikopolMiSS_n00b, you still there?01:40
mrkrispotus, i did the symlink from mods-available to mods-enabled01:40
Razor-Xnot that I don't mind games, but I prefer console gaming (save the FPS), personally01:40
MiSS_n00byes01:41
MiSS_n00bdid u get the PM01:41
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potusmrkris: should work that was my prob with php took me long time to figure out hhe01:41
NikopolMiSS_n00b, nope!01:41
NikopolMiSS_n00b, weird01:41
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Nikopoldo it here01:41
MiSS_n00bohh:-S01:41
PlazmaRazor-X, FPS is what i do best :d01:41
MiSS_n00bi typed lots lol01:41
MiSS_n00bMount error : unable to mount the selected volume. The volume is probably in a format that cannot be mounted01:41
Nikopolah :(01:41
n1nj4-TaNtenany i know how to fix the apt-get to work01:41
bretzeln01:41
potusPlazna: try call of duty 2 for 360?01:41
bretzelhhh+++++++++++++++01:41
Razor-XPlazma: UT is my forte :)01:42
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potusi played it b4 i sold it.. sweet!01:42
proxosihow i list the hd i have ?01:42
n1nj4-TaNtenpotus i have01:42
bretzelgggg<oiuuuuuuuuuuy 9'// cu01:42
NikopolMiSS_n00b, that sounds like your drive is not ext301:42
Plazmapotus, nah i dont have an xbox360.. i just bought a dreamcast though.. its rekindling my love of console gaming01:42
bretzel|?  brffffff01:42
proxosinvm01:42
MiSS_n00bwrong fs type, bad option, bad super block on /dev/hdb1  missing codepage or other error01:42
MiSS_n00bEXT3-fs: Unrecognized mount option "umask=000" or missing value01:42
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MiSS_n00boh :-S01:42
PlazmaRazor-X, yea UT is mine as well.. also bf194201:42
KyralMiSS_n00b: EXT3 doesn't have t hat option01:42
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jvaiheey, bac. i "social engineer'd" an outlet for the box01:42
NikopolMiSS_n00b, without the umasl what does it do?01:42
MiSS_n00bit was working before, i am trying to make it writable by all users01:42
proxosiyo guys.. ubuntu dont recognize my hd in fdisk -l01:42
KyralMiSS_n00b: the EXT3 FS doesn't have that option01:43
MiSS_n00bsomeone told me to add that umask so i could write to it without being root01:43
Kyralonly vfat01:43
Razor-XPlazma: appreciate them CS folks for what they are, teh best demmed slow pokers in the world :P01:43
djibsig... all this effort of compiling cinerella for this : Segmentation fault01:43
Razor-Xok, sorry for the horrible UT-biased joke01:43
mr_daemonSay, while i'n there, I have a Maxtor external drive, USB2, 80gb. It's one of those OneTouch things. 1) Is there a way to use the button on the front? 2) The drive no longer automounts. It is detected, I can mount it, but dbus and friends no longer mount it to my desktop. Any ideas?01:43
NikopolMiSS_n00b, nah remove the umask01:43
MiSS_n00bok then01:43
NikopolOk here's mine again01:43
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MiSS_n00bso is there any way that i can make it writable by all users?01:43
Plazmafood time.. bbl01:43
Nikopoladapt it to your situation01:43
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NikopolMiSS_n00b, yes :D01:44
something_elsewhat software exists to play dvb that dont hang if unclear signal and handle the channel conf files appropriately?01:44
MiSS_n00bok cool01:44
something_elseare there any gtk based dvb players?01:44
potusdvb players for linux?01:44
qt23023 - 966801:44
qt2ack01:44
NikopolMiSS_n00b, try putting rw,before users01:44
potussomething_else: i wanna know more!01:44
proxosihow i do the mount thingy01:44
NikopolMiSS_n00b, like rw,user01:44
something_elseyes potus, so do i01:44
something_elseive got a dvb receiver01:45
qt2something_else, xine is gtk based, i believe.01:45
Xenguy!mount01:45
ubotumount is probably the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f01:45
qt2oh, dvb.01:45
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something_elseit works with xine, but no channel configuration01:45
potussomething_else: can i im u?01:45
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something_elsesure01:45
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mr_daemonAnyone?01:45
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proxosii am trying to make it writable by all users01:45
proxosiproxosi yo guys.. ubuntu dont recognize my hd in fdisk -l01:45
proxosiproxosi@ProXOSi:~$ sudo mount /dev/hdc101:45
something_elsexine plays dvb so does mplayer but you have to specify channel each time01:46
proxosimount: can't find /dev/hdc1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab01:46
proxosiwat i have to add on fstab for hdc1?01:46
Xenguy!fstab01:46
ubotuthe /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the winmac_fstab file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab  See <partitions>.01:46
MiSS_n00bok does this look right now ? /dev/hdb1       /media/hdb1     ext3    defaults,rw,user 0 001:46
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Xenguywinmac?01:46
NikopolMiSS_n00b, looks right01:46
MiSS_n00bcool. so i reboot?01:46
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NikopolMiSS_n00b, no01:46
NikopolMiSS_n00b, mount /media/hdb101:47
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Xenguyhrm01:47
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oxezon linux, rebooting is for: kernel upgrade, adding hardware, or powerouttage :P01:47
n1nj4-TaNtencould not open lock file01:47
n1nj4-TaNtenwhat does that mean01:47
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n1nj4-TaNten?01:47
n1nj4-TaNtencode 13 or something01:47
MiSS_n00bok sweet, i can read it, but still cant write:-S01:47
fishnogeekok, first timer in here:  i hit a weird problem trying to install Breezy on an IBM ThinkPad T21.....it couldn't install the kernel.....anybody seen that?01:47
NikopolMiSS_n00b, argh!01:47
Hobbseen1nj4-TaNten: got synaptic/another window of apt-get open?01:48
Nikopolerm lemme think01:48
djk_n1nj4-TaNten: are you trying to apt-get something while synaptic is open?01:48
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Nikopolah ok maybe the files have been created by root?01:48
n1nj4-TaNtenwhat is synaptic01:48
n1nj4-TaNten?01:48
NikopolMiSS_n00b, were they?01:48
MiSS_n00byes01:48
Xenguy!tell n1nj4-TaNten about synaptic01:48
goosemy soundcard was not seated properly while i was installing ubuntu. now that i've seated it properly and it's properly detected by the kernel (lspci good) is there a gui-fied way of activating that soundcard in ubuntu?01:48
mr_daemon!awk01:48
ubotumr_daemon: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?01:48
proxosiwould /dev/hdc1/media/hdc1ntfsdefaults,umask=022200 for my secondary hd?01:49
n1nj4-TaNteni only have console01:49
proxosiit its ntfs01:49
NikopolWell now you have to change the writing rights01:49
n1nj4-TaNtennothing else01:49
n1nj4-TaNteni have edited my soruce list01:49
mr_daemon!dbus01:49
ubotumr_daemon: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about01:49
williamWhy doesn't anyone know?01:49
MiSS_n00bthats what i want to do:P01:49
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NikopolMiSS_n00b, ok01:49
n1nj4-TaNtenand now i want to run apt-get01:49
NikopolMiSS_n00b, suppose you have a folder X01:49
dragoongoose alsaconf01:49
n1nj4-TaNtenbut i get the error message01:49
djk_william: know what01:49
MiSS_n00byup01:49
NikopolMiSS_n00b, this will be at /media/hdc1/X01:50
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MiSS_n00bwell i cant even create a newfolder on that drive01:50
MiSS_n00bok01:50
Nikopolyou are happy with anyone wirting anything on that drive?01:50
MiSS_n00byup01:50
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Hobbseen1nj4-TaNten: shut the console, then open it again?01:50
NikopolMiSS_n00b, ok that makes it a lot simpler01:50
williamI am trying to play games in Linux, but they're awfully slow since I don't have 3d hardware acceleration enabled01:50
NikopolMiSS_n00b, do the foillowing01:50
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n1nj4-TaNtenit is like dos01:50
williamThe card is supported, it's a Radeon 9700.01:50
n1nj4-TaNteni cant shut i down01:50
n1nj4-TaNten:s01:50
n1nj4-TaNtenwhen i start the laptop i enter the prompt01:51
Hobbseeah ok01:51
n1nj4-TaNtenand thats all01:51
djk_william: then install the ati drivers to enable that..01:51
n1nj4-TaNtenand now i want to run apt-get01:51
goosedragoon ok =) so it's old school alsaconf then01:51
NikopolMiSS_n00b, chmod -R 777 /media/...01:51
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bimberiubotu tell william about ati01:51
williamI installed the ATI drivers.01:51
NikopolMiSS_n00b, replace the ... with the full path ;)01:51
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goosehmm i guess i have to install alsautils for that01:51
MiSS_n00bfull path to the drive?01:51
fishnogeekwilliam:  have you seen all the links about the ATI fixes?  fglrx stuff?01:51
Xenguyn1nj4-TaNten: if you type this at the prompt, what output do you get -> startx01:51
NikopolMiSS_n00b, yes01:51
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n1nj4-TaNtenbrb ill check01:52
Hobbseen1nj4-TaNten: try "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock" and it should work fine01:52
NikopolMiSS_n00b, in your case /media/hdc101:52
fishnogeekok, never mind....01:52
MiSS_n00bb01:52
fishnogeekthat's as far as i got01:52
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NikopolMiSS_n00b, so? can you create a folder there now?01:53
proxosican somebody guide me to mount a extra hd?01:53
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potushow can i take GDM out of initd so the only login it boots to is console?01:53
goosedragoon: where is alsaconf :-\01:53
Nikopolproxosi, what is the probelm?01:53
Hobbsee!tell proxosi abotu mount01:53
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proxosii want to mount a secondary hd01:54
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Hobbseeproxosi: you might find a link in your pm's useful01:54
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proxosi!tell proxosi about mount01:54
MiSS_n00bok if i do it like this: melz@ubuntu:~$ chmod -R 777 /media/hdb1  it says chmod: changing permissions of `/media/hdb1': Operation not permitted01:54
coz is anyone familiar with layla24 and if so do you know where to get drivers for it?01:55
MiSS_n00boh nvm01:55
MiSS_n00bduh01:55
bimberipotus: sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove01:55
HobbseeMiSS_n00b: stick sudo in front of it01:55
NikopolMiSS_n00b, so it as sudo01:55
Hobbseelol01:55
Nikopolbeat to it:D01:55
Hobbsee:P01:55
MiSS_n00bhehe not called n00b for nuthin ;)01:55
MiSS_n00bty ty it works now01:55
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HobbseeMiSS_n00b: you'll learn it all fast enough01:55
NikopolMiSS_n00b, yes :D01:55
goosehmm fascinating 5.10 does not have alsaconf01:55
MiSS_n00bwill i be able to send files thru ssh from my windoze box straight to that drive?01:55
NikopolMiSS_n00b, don't use chmod too lightly01:55
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NikopolMiSS_n00b, sure01:56
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MiSS_n00bcool01:56
NikopolMiSS_n00b, as long as your logged in as a local user01:56
MiSS_n00bthank you so much :D01:56
mkyb14what's a decient movie player for linux ...vlc? and a mp3 player?01:56
KyralVLC01:56
djk_vlc, kaffeine,mplayer..01:56
NikopolMiSS_n00b, glad it worked in the ende :D01:56
OgMacielMiSS_n00b, tried WinSCP?01:56
cozTotoem-xine01:56
djk_amarok for mp3 ;)01:56
KyralBeep Media Player handles MP3 out of the boxx01:56
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proxosinikopol: would u help me mount?01:56
MiSS_n00byes i use winscp01:56
coznot mplaye01:56
coznot vlc01:56
Nikopolproxosi, ok01:56
cozonly totem-xine01:56
OgMacielMiSS_n00b, cool01:56
mkyb14ok what's the most popluar mp3 player01:57
djk_amarok01:57
KyralDon't ask that01:57
proxosinikopol: i mounted one a partition that shares with ubuntu01:57
Kyralit will start a flamewar01:57
Nikopolproxosi, yes01:57
KyralI prefer Beep Media Player myself01:57
proxosinikopol: now i want to mount another hd that have files already (ntfs)01:57
mkyb14well i'm used to winamp01:57
cozTHE best movie player is totem-xine period01:57
mkyb14and xamp is eh01:57
proxosinikopol: its call hdc501:57
djk_mkyb14: then you might like xmms01:57
Hobbseeamarok, every time01:57
Nikopolproxosi, do you know how to edit /etc/fstab?01:57
proxosinikopol: i tried to do all previous steps but it doesnt work01:57
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Nikopolok I'll take you through it01:57
proxosinikopol: a bit.. i think i enter wrong values01:57
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cozbeep in place of win amp01:58
proxosiso the first was /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       001:58
mkyb14yea i tried xmms but there is no mp3 support01:58
mkyb14you have to get that somehow01:58
proxosithen i tried on my own on the secondary hd by01:58
KyralBMP has it out of the box01:58
proxosicopy paste but changed01:58
Nikopolproxosi, I think it will be fster if you paste it to pastebin01:58
proxosioops01:58
cozBeep media player for mp301:58
proxosiok01:58
proxosiemm wat the link for pastebin?01:58
Nikopolerm01:59
Nikopol!pastebin01:59
ubotuit has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com01:59
Nikopolvoila :)01:59
cozFor mp3 use beep media player uses winamp and xmms skins01:59
proxosiwat type i choose? php?01:59
cozfor the best movie player use totem-xine ONLY02:00
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Kyralcoz or just XINE02:00
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mkyb14says it can't find the package "beep"02:00
cozxine is a little buggy on ubuntu02:00
Kyralcoz: thats BS02:00
Nikopolsorry?02:00
KyralI use it all the time no problem02:00
TeLeKiNeSiSWhat's the command to uncompress a tar.gz file?02:00
cozno it's not02:00
cozI have tried them02:00
cozxone alone is buggy02:00
cozxibne02:00
n1nj4-TaNtenHobbsee i couldn't remove it02:00
proxosiit ask me what to use for highlighting?02:00
cozxine02:00
Nikopoloh nothing02:01
proxosihttp://ubuntu.pastebin.com/45336802:01
cozdamn fingers02:01
proxosinvm02:01
Kyralso because its bad for you...02:01
n1nj4-TaNtenwhen i enter as root02:01
Hobbseen1nj4-TaNten: why not?02:01
Kyrallet the user try :P02:01
kenichiTeLeKiNeSiS: tar -xzf file.tgz02:01
n1nj4-TaNtenits not there02:01
bimberiTeLeKiNeSiS: tar xvzf <file>02:01
mkyb14is there a website where  i can search the archives for a package name because i dont' know the command for apt02:01
TeLeKiNeSiShmmm02:01
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proxosinikopol: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/453368 last line.. i add that myself... i think taht the problem02:01
n1nj4-TaNteni cant use sudo i dont have it installed02:01
gnomefreakubotu tell n1nj4-TaNten  about root02:01
cozthe most compatible is totem-xine yeah go ahead and try them all02:01
TeLeKiNeSiSdidn't work earlier but I'll give it another go02:01
TeLeKiNeSiSThanks Kenichi and bimberi02:01
Hobbseemkyb14: packages.ubuntu.com or apt-cache search02:01
Kyralcoz: Most poeple I talk to swear by VLC actually02:01
bimberiTeLeKiNeSiS: np :)02:01
kenichinp02:01
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TeLeKiNeSiS:)02:01
Nikopolproxosi, add an extra return at the end of the last line02:01
cozvlc is the worlst on anuylinux02:02
cozworst02:02
Kyralcoz no fight02:02
gnomefreakubotu tell n1nj4-TaNten  about sudo02:02
cozon any linux02:02
Kyralits your opinion02:02
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n1nj4-TaNtengnomefreak i alredy know02:02
Kyraldoesn't mean its right02:02
Kyraldoesn't mean I'm right02:02
n1nj4-TaNtenhow is that suppose to help02:02
Nikopolproxosi, why umask=022202:02
cozno its not vlc is best on windows it is remarkable on ubuntu or any other linux it is lame02:02
Kyral....02:02
Kyralcoz use neutral langauge02:02
mkyb14 how do you run the command "./ati-driver-installer-8.14.13.run" in terminal02:03
cozI speak english02:03
Kyral"worst" or "best" is a matter of opinion02:03
jdkycdochi everyone, i would like to know what is the best way to set up the nvidia driver in breezy, i have read that many people have had trouble with this. should i try the instruccions from the 5.04 ubuntu guide???02:03
coznot neutral02:03
gnomefreakn1nj4-TaNten,  if you read the sites ubotu gave you maybe give you an idea and also as for sudo not being installed there isnt much of a choice there02:03
proxosinikopol: me noob.. me monkey see monkey doo02:03
KyralI meant your tone02:03
proxosiso i copy paste watever02:03
proxosiemm02:03
proxosiso wat it should be?02:03
dragoonproxosi: rm -rf / will fix everything =)02:03
n1nj4-TaNtenis it supos to work runing apt-get when you are loged in as root02:03
n1nj4-TaNten?02:03
Nikopolproxosi, no!02:03
Kyraldragoon: NO!!!02:03
cozNo its not worse or best on ubuntu is quite easily discovered02:03
dragoonlol jk02:03
gnomefreakn1nj4-TaNten,  what are you trying to do?02:04
Nikopolproxosi, don't do that02:04
Kyralcoz:  thats yoru own opinion02:04
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KyralI think that KDE stinks02:04
proxosi?????02:04
n1nj4-TaNteni am trying to run apt-get update02:04
proxosiok02:04
Kyraldoes that mean it does? No02:04
proxosiwat will it do? kill my hd?02:04
cozNo it is not vlc is buggy as xine on ubuntu I do the testing every day02:04
coz it is bad02:04
Nikopolproxosi, he told you how to delete your entire harddirve02:04
gnomefreaksudo apt-get update is the command02:04
proxosio02:04
proxosibad dragoon02:04
Kyralproxosi: rm -rf / will delete your HD02:04
n1nj4-TaNtenyeas but id doesnt work02:04
Nikopolproxosi, so don't do it02:04
proxosiok02:04
proxosiok02:04
proxosiso wat i have to do?02:04
Kyralcoz define buggy02:04
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Nikopolproxosi, let's take it from the top02:04
n1nj4-TaNteni dont have sudo02:04
n1nj4-TaNtenso i cant run sudo02:04
mkyb14 how do you run the command ".run" files02:05
gnomefreakn1nj4-TaNten,  what is ther error your getting?02:05
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proxosik02:05
Kyraln1nj4-TaNten: if you are root you don't need sudo02:05
kenichijdkycdoc: any special application, or just setting up?02:05
mkyb14./ati-driver-installer-8.14.13.run   ...?02:05
cozfirst it has fewer options that it does on windows and the options that it does have work occasionally02:05
Nikopolproxosi, do ls /media/02:05
proxosias root or user?02:05
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Nikopoleither02:05
n1nj4-TaNtenokay when i am root and i run apt-get update i get a long list of text02:05
cozon windows vlc is, as I said, quite remarkable for an open source program02:05
eltree33does anyone know what firewall knoppix loads at default?02:05
jdkycdockenichi, just setting up i havent done anything about it jet02:05
mkyb14sudo apt-get update02:05
proxosicdrom  cdrom0  floppy  floppy0  hda102:05
Kyralcoz: I don't know about you but I only want the thing to play videos02:05
gnomefreakn1nj4-TaNten, thats what the command does it updates your sources list02:05
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cozon linus it is one of the worse opwn source programs02:05
n1nj4-TaNtenthat says something could not connect to....02:05
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Nikopolproxosi, there's your problem02:05
proxosinikopol: cdrom  cdrom0  floppy  floppy0  hda102:05
proxosi             << hd5 not there02:05
eltree33I tried asking in the knoppix forum but no seems to be chatting there02:05
kenichijdkycdoc: have you already installed it?02:05
Kyralcoz please stop02:05
cozthen you need totem-xine02:05
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Nikopolproxosi, yeah02:06
proxosinikopol: ok.... so...02:06
Kyralcoz: No you don't02:06
Nikopolproxosi, create it :)02:06
gnomefreakn1nj4-TaNten,  than something is wrong with your sources list02:06
cozNo Kyral YOU stop02:06
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Kyralfor me Xine alone runs fine02:06
gnomefreakubotu tell n1nj4-TaNten  about sources02:06
Nikopolproxosi, sudo /media/hdb502:06
Nikopolproxosi, no02:06
Kyralcoz: I'm not the one spewing my opinion like its the only true thing02:06
guilleni have a problem, im trying to install skype but it depends on a library called libqt3c102-mt02:06
Nikopolproxosi, sudo mkdir /media/hdb502:06
n1nj4-TaNteni was at a page and the page did the source list for me02:06
KyralFor you VLC may be buggy02:06
Nikopolproxosi, mkdir makes a directory02:06
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cozI am not giving eopinions I am telling the best appls for ubuntu02:06
Kyraldoesn't mean it is for everyone02:06
mkyb14i know one of you sexy bitches knows if debian can run the .run files02:06
gnomefreakn1nj4-TaNten,  was it source o matic?02:06
n1nj4-TaNtenyeas02:06
cozthe others are at the least buggy and irritating to work with02:07
proxosihdb5? or hdc5?02:07
Kyralthat is, like everything in Linux, a matter of opinion02:07
kenichijdkycdoc: have you already installed it?02:07
cozif you like xine use it02:07
ernie_hello, does anyone know what the reccomended minimum requirements for breezy badger are?02:07
guilleni tried to install that library but it seem like theres an older version installed02:07
gnomefreakn1nj4-TaNten,  what ubuntu version do you have?02:07
n1nj4-TaNteni dont have ubuntu02:07
n1nj4-TaNteni have debian02:07
Nikopolproxosi, another thing you need to do is add an empty line at the end of fstab02:07
jdkycdockenichi, no, not jet i am not completely sure of whether i should go for it trough synaptic or download it from nvidia website02:07
n1nj4-TaNteni have a basic debian install02:07
gnomefreakn1nj4-TaNten,  try #debian than02:07
n1nj4-TaNtenand now i want to install ubuntu02:07
cozKyarl I am testin g ubuntu to switch my sinwos users over to it02:07
n1nj4-TaNtenbut i want to install ubuntu02:07
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eltree33does all linux distros boot with a firewall enabled??02:07
proxosinikopol: ok..... but i type hdc5 instead of hdb502:07
proxosi??02:07
Kyralcoz: don't say "best"02:08
gnomefreakn1nj4-TaNten,  to install ubuntu you need the disk you cant change the sources to upgrade to ubuntu02:08
williamAnother question since I fixed up my video driver.:)02:08
Kyralgive all the options02:08
williamHow do I use 4.1 speakers?02:08
Kyralbut if you must say something liek "But it was buggy for me"02:08
Nikopolproxosi, yeah02:08
kenichijdkycdoc:  take the one from synaptic. im using it too, and have set up dual screen with it02:08
kenichiworks fine02:08
cozThe apps like vlc and xone are not adeqauate enough for the typical home user. They are at best buggy and difficult02:08
Nikopolproxosi, sorry my mistake02:08
mkyb14so was that a yes on running .run files? and how02:08
mrkrispotus, still here?02:08
n1nj4-TaNtengnomefreak i have read that it is possible02:08
cozxine02:08
Nikopolproxosi, so have you added an empty line at the end of the file?02:08
proxosiyes02:08
Kyraljeez02:08
gnomefreakn1nj4-TaNten,  it might be but i will never suggest it since the sources are not even close to the same02:08
n1nj4-TaNtenubuntu is build on debian02:08
Nikopolproxosi, good02:08
cozFo r the homw use , put in a dvd and totne-xine opens and plys it02:09
gnomefreakand you risk breaking system02:09
Kyralthe home user wants to play videos02:09
proxosiok done02:09
ernie_vlc is buggy on ubuntu?  It ran great in windows for me02:09
coznot vlc, not xine sometimes02:09
proxosion both things you told me02:09
Nikopolproxosi, let's mount the new hard drice02:09
KyralThen say for DVD02:09
kenichijdkycdoc: and its easier to install and to remove02:09
cozthey aren't as reliable02:09
proxosiok command is?02:09
doorhello? just a quick question...does anyone know how to permanently exchange the left control and caps lock buttons but not just in X?02:09
Nikopolproxosi, sudo mount /dev/hdc502:09
jdkycdockenichi, so just get from synaptic and also the settings package, installthem and should be ok, right?02:09
Kyralbut for normal AVI or OGM it works FINE02:09
lordluclessIm using dig to try and test out my changes to the bind config, and Im having a bit of a problem. dig is responding with "got answer", but it is not displaying the Answer Section, or the Authority section02:09
kenichijdkycdoc: should be02:09
cozPerhaps kyral02:09
Nikopolproxosi, so?02:09
Kyraland I'm going now. Please stop being so opinionated02:09
proxosidone02:10
cozbut for home users totem-xine is the only wayt o go02:10
lordluclessIve had a look in man dig, but couldnt see anything to force display of those sections. Anyone help me with that?02:10
gallonegro_is their a tutrial to convert from dvix to dvd?02:10
proxosithank you very much02:10
Nikopolcd /media/hdc502:10
gnomefreakn1nj4-TaNten, just because ubuntu is based on debian does not mean they are same in any way shape or form02:10
Nikopoland ls02:10
Nikopolis everything there?02:10
cozthey are more the same than not02:10
proxosiseem to be02:10
lordluclessI assume it's something Im doing wrong with dig, as it's responding with "got answer" - its just not showing it02:10
proxosithanks alot02:10
jdkycdockenichi, thanks a lot ill try and ill be back to tell you how it goes02:10
Nikopolproxosi, no problem02:10
proxosibtw02:10
Nikopolproxosi, yes?02:10
n1nj4-TaNtengnomefreak but i have read that i guy did it this way02:10
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n1nj4-TaNtenand it worked for him02:11
kenichijdkycdoc: you can check it by looking into /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:11
proxosihow do u install flash on firefox? is there mediaplyaer classic +codec for ubuntu02:11
brennerdoor: no clue how, but you've got me interested...why would you?02:11
ernie_has anyone installed Ubuntu and found the networking to be extremely slow after doing so?02:11
proxosiwen i google flash on firefox ubuntu.. i did the command02:11
proxosibut it gave me a darn error02:11
Nikopolproxosi, erm not sure02:11
lordluclessernie_, yep, Im having that problem02:11
cozgnomefreak have you installed the base debian?02:11
dragoonits fine here02:11
cozthe install for ubuntu and debian are identical02:11
doorslow computer...i think it might work better if it was just changed all over02:11
dragoonmight be a problem wit your network card modules ?02:11
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djk_proxosi: just download the flashplayer installer and open a terminal and run it..02:11
ernie_lordlucless what ethernet card are you using?02:12
proxosiso i drag it?02:12
gnomefreakn1nj4-TaNten, to do it you need ubuntus sources list than apt-get update than apt-get dist-upgrade but im not by any means saying it is recommended or workable02:12
proxosito the terminal?02:12
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gnomefreakcoz i have debian on hdb02:12
lordluclessernie_, not sure, just got the computer yesterday02:12
Nikopolproxosi, download it anywhere02:12
cozso what do you see the difference as being?02:12
n1nj4-TaNtengnomefreak that is what im trying to do02:12
Nikopolproxosi, but install it from the terminal02:12
ernie_dragoon, i am thinking it may be an unsupported network card02:12
n1nj4-TaNteni have the debian source list02:12
dragoonah02:12
n1nj4-TaNteni have typed in all by myself02:12
lordluclessAnyone know anything about my bind problem?02:13
gnomefreakcoz dude i see a huge difference in ubuntu and debian only thing i can say i see as same is commands and some packages02:13
n1nj4-TaNtenbut i can't run apt-get update02:13
ernie_dis ubuntu plug and olay somewhat?02:13
ernie_oops play02:13
cozthe install is identical02:13
mkyb14i got an installer that is a ".run" file .... how do i execute this in the terminal02:13
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Nikopolproxosi, you may want to change fstab so that it mounts the hard disk automaricallly02:13
gnomefreakyes install is but after that nothing is same02:13
dragoonsh runfile.run02:13
gnomefreakall debian distros use same installer02:13
proxosinikopol: how?02:13
bushitohow do i know whats my gnome version?02:13
gnomefreakn1nj4-TaNten,  you need to have ubuntu sources to do it02:13
n1nj4-TaNtengnomefreak but i only want ubuntu02:13
coznone the less debian packages for the most part work just fine on ubuntu02:13
n1nj4-TaNtennothing else02:13
Nikopolproxosi, see the line before your line?02:14
n1nj4-TaNtengnomefreak i have e ubuntu soruce02:14
gnomefreakbushito,  in breezy click on help icon02:14
brennerbushito: sys > about gnome02:14
ernie_like is there wa way to unistall my ethernet card and have ubuntu try to re-install it?02:14
n1nj4-TaNtenbut i still cant apt-get update02:14
bushitoxD oh lol thanks02:14
Nikopolproxosi, /dev/hdc5/media/hdc5ntfsdefaults,auto,umask=02220002:14
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Nikopolproxosi, I think02:14
gnomefreakn1nj4-TaNten,  paste your sources list in pastebin please and give us link02:14
os2macdoes anyone know what the sources.list strings for the dapper releases?02:15
n1nj4-TaNtenpastebin?02:15
proxosiwhat the command to edit fstab?02:15
gnomefreak!pastebin02:15
ubotusomebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com02:15
Hobbseeos2mac: same as breezy, but with dapper instead of breezy02:15
Hobbseegnomefreak: sudo gedit /etc/fstab02:15
Nikopolproxosi, sudo gedit /etc/fstab02:15
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gnomefreakHobbsee,  for what?02:16
kazzoogreetings, any links on getting old isa cards..ie modems, soundcards, NIC's to work?02:16
Hobbseegnomefreak: oops, sorry02:16
n1nj4-TaNtenbut i'v done the soruce file with soruce o matic02:16
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NikopolHobbsee, :D02:16
Hobbseeproxosi:  sudo gedit /etc/fstab02:16
n1nj4-TaNtenand then i printed it out02:16
Hobbseegnomefreak: misread the line lol!02:16
n1nj4-TaNtenand wrote it done on the laptop and saved it02:16
Nikopolok all gn02:16
gnomefreaksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and paste what you have in there to pastebin n1nj4-TaNten02:16
n1nj4-TaNtenthats it02:17
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n1nj4-TaNtenthat is the file i wrote down02:17
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dragoonwhats the dev package called02:17
n1nj4-TaNteni can't paste it02:17
dragoonlike for make tc02:17
dragoonetc02:17
gnomefreakn1nj4-TaNten,  yes now go to that file and paste what is in there to pastebin02:17
everton137Hi, I want mount my USB mobile using /dev/sda1 device, but it doesnt exist. Can someone help me, please?02:17
n1nj4-TaNtenbecause i dont have irc on the laptop02:17
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n1nj4-TaNtenthis is the other comp02:17
ernie_is a AMD k62 400Mhz w/256 RAM too slow to run ubuntu on?02:17
BenUrbanok i installed02:18
BenUrbani told it not to set up grub02:18
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dragoonernie_: i did gentoo on a pc with that specfs02:18
dragoon:p02:18
gnomefreakwell n1nj4-TaNten its gonna be really really hard to help without seeing it02:18
kenichieverton137: type ls -la /dev/sd*02:18
n1nj4-TaNtenbut it is a lot of links02:18
Hobbseeernie_: !xfce02:18
ernie_dragoon: how does it run?02:18
BenUrbani tried booting but it couldn't mount the root fs02:18
dragooni didnt run X02:18
Hobbsee!tell ernie_ about xubuntu02:18
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dragoonit ran a lil slow... it runs opensbd now'02:18
BenUrbanwhat is the grub.conf line supposed to look like?02:18
kenichieverton137: what does it say?02:18
everton137kenichi, ls -l /dev/sd*02:19
everton137ls: No match.02:19
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gnomefreakn1nj4-TaNten,  the only way to help you is to know what sources you have02:19
n1nj4-TaNten!pastebin02:19
ubotusomebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com02:19
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everton137kenichi, it's strange. I thought it should appear when I plug my mobile on USB02:19
proxosisudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla02:19
proxosigave me  Reading package lists... Done02:19
proxosiBuilding dependency tree... Done02:19
proxosiE: Couldn't find package flashplayer-mozilla02:19
dooranother question, in addition:  does anyone know how to get ubuntu to read a USB removable drive thing? for some reason at first I could save and load things from it, but now it's supposedly "read-only" and no matter how I try to chmod and chown it it doesn't change02:19
Hobbsee!info flashplayer-mozilla02:19
quadra[ !unload : no module with this name ] 02:20
ubotuflashplayer-mozilla: (Macromedia Flash Player), section multiverse/web, is optional. Version: 7.0.25-0.0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 956 kB, Installed size: 2136 kB02:20
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Hobbseeproxosi: you need multiverse02:20
kenichieverton137: then ther is no usb device connected02:20
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n1nj4-TaNtengnomefreak02:20
n1nj4-TaNtenhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/549602:20
gnomefreakn1nj4-TaNten,  ty02:20
kenichieverton137: type "dmesg"02:20
proxosihobbsee: wwat that02:20
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everton137kenichi, I use a hug where I plug mouse, keyborad and now mobile02:20
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Hobbsee!multiverse02:20
ubotuit has been said that repositories is How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list02:20
everton137kenichi, I will put on #flood dmesg out02:20
BenUrbantitle Ubuntu Linux 2.6.1202:20
BenUrbanroot (hd0,0)02:20
BenUrbankernel /vmlinuz-2.6.12-ubuntu-r9-386 root=/dev/hda902:20
Aron_FigaroHas anyone managed to get UT2004 installed on Ubuntu yet?02:20
BenUrban^^^ what am i doing wrong?02:20
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paulitohas anyone here had sucess with running ubuntu in a vmware windows session ?02:21
Aron_FigaroBenUrban: the /dev/hda9 looks slightly fishy. How many partitions do you HAVE?02:21
paulitothe install just cores vmware on me!02:21
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n1nj4-TaNtengnomefreak it is the exact thing that i got from soruce o matic02:21
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BenUrbanAron_Figaro: i have 8 plus the extended one02:21
kenichieverton137: does it say something about a usb device beeing connected?02:21
gnomefreakn1nj4-TaNten, what errors are you getting the sources list if thats all there is to it looks like it should work02:21
Aron_FigaroBenUrban: Ah, ok.02:21
BenUrban:)02:21
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redhandhi everybody02:22
BenUrbangentoo is on the other 702:22
gnomefreakn1nj4-TaNten,  i need to see your file not source-o-matics02:22
BenUrbani'm sharing /boot, /home, and swap02:22
everton137kenichi, done. there it is02:22
Aron_FigaroBenUrban: Not sure what the problem might be then.02:22
n1nj4-TaNteni get like that it couldn't connet or something02:22
everton137kenichi, there're a lot of lines with USB text...02:22
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Apache-how to make a directory and a file writable?02:22
Aron_FigaroAnyone have any advice for me, I'm having a lot of issues with random permission errors...02:22
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gnomefreakn1nj4-TaNten, im willing to bet either the cdrom repo is in your sources list causing that or you have other repos in there that are spitting out errors02:22
brennerdoor: heard of that before.  hit the forum while you wait02:22
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kenichieverton137: what are the last two?02:22
matrixhi02:23
BenUrbanAron_Figaro: does ubuntu use initrd?02:23
anticsI'm having issues getting crossover office to install office 2003--it claims I don't have permissions to mount or read the volume, even if I run it with su02:23
anticsany ideas?02:23
Aron_FigaroBenUrban: *blinks* I'm no expert, but as far as I know, yes.02:23
everton137kenichi, [4322646.201000]  usb 1-1.4: USB disconnect, address 802:23
everton137everton137 [4337747.426000]  usb 1-1.4: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 902:23
everton137everton137 [4337747.602000]  drivers/usb/class/cdc-a02:23
BenUrbanuhh02:23
Hobbsee!pastebin02:23
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ubotuit has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com02:23
n1nj4-TaNtengnomefreak what cdrom repos?02:23
BenUrbanhmph02:23
n1nj4-TaNteni dont have a cd-rom02:23
BenUrbanwhere did it put it then?02:23
doorhmm...i've searched the forums and just got lost. lol02:23
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everton137kenichi, look at /proc/bus/usb/devices the mobile is found02:23
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gnomefreakn1nj4-TaNten,  you might not have it if you didnt use cd to install02:23
everton137kenichi, T:  Bus=01 Lev=02 Prnt=02 Port=03 Cnt=03 Dev#= 11 Spd=12  MxCh= 002:23
everton137D:  Ver= 1.10 Cls=02(comm.) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs=  102:23
everton137P:  Vendor=0421 ProdID=041f Rev= 0.e002:23
everton137S:  Manufacturer=Nokia Mobile Phones02:23
everton137S:  Product=Nokia 623502:23
BenUrbanahh there it is nm02:23
matrixi have a hard drive 250 gb sata what partition is better (ext3,XFS)?02:24
gnomefreakubotu tell everton137  about paste02:24
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n1nj4-TaNtengnomefreak so what lines should i remove?02:24
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Aron_FigaroMatrix: I use EXT3 on mine, but Reiser's cool too.02:24
everton137gnomefreak, ok, I wil paste on #flood, sorry02:24
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Apache-how to make a directory and a file writable?02:24
gnomefreakn1nj4-TaNten,  i dont know you are not showing me your sources list02:24
Apache-how to make a directory and a file writable? with (chmod)02:24
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pr1rhey all02:24
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n1nj4-TaNtenbut that u saw was my whole soruce list02:24
cozchomod -help02:24
gnomefreakn1nj4-TaNten, the only way to help is to see whats in the etc/apt/sources.list file02:25
cozchmod -help02:25
kenichieverton137: but its not detected as a mobile disk02:25
gnomefreakno n1nj4-TaNten  i saw what source-o-matic gave you02:25
everton137kenichi, I dont know how to see in such case. How it would appear?02:25
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n1nj4-TaNtenbut that is what i have typed in soruce.list02:25
matrixand how many gb support ext302:25
everton137kenichi, I mean, when a mobile disk02:25
Apache-coz how am i supopsed to kno the numbers?02:25
matrix?02:25
n1nj4-TaNtenthere is nothing else02:25
cozwhat are you trying to do?02:25
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jdkycdockenichi, hi, i just tried it but after the installation X refuses to start with the new xorg.conf, so i had to change the file back to be able to astart X02:26
gnomefreakn1nj4-TaNten,  your not understanding me while typing it in are you sure that ther eis no stry marks anywhere?02:26
ernie_If I am already running gnome- is there a  way to run XFCE without re-installing02:26
gnomefreakare you sure nothing is typoed02:26
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ernie_?02:26
Apache-i want to make two folders and a file writable02:26
kenichieverton137: if it would be detected as a mobile disk it would appear as a sdx device02:26
pabloAnyone knows what can I do to use my faxmodem so as to receive faxes?02:26
brennerApache-: easy way: look at a file's permissions tab through it's properties in nautilus02:26
pr1ri have a problem with my nvidia geforce fx video card02:26
n1nj4-TaNtengnomefreak stry marks??02:26
BenUrbanAron_Figaro: do you use grub? what does the kernel line in your grub.conf say?02:26
gnomefreakstray*02:26
matrixand how many gb support ext3?02:26
proxosihobbsee: could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavail            able)02:26
proxosiE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc            ess using it?02:26
gnomefreakan extra /02:26
mjrmatrix, "enough"02:26
everton137kenichi, can be that I need some module for scsi?02:27
brennerApache-: note how the number changes depending on the checkboxes you tick02:27
Aron_FigaroBenUrban I actually don't have a grub.conf file o.o02:27
BenUrbanAron_Figaro: lilo? yaboot?02:27
kenichijdkycdoc: what does the Section "Device" in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf say?02:27
Aron_FigaroBenUrban: I use Grub :p02:27
bimberiproxosi: close synaptic02:27
n1nj4-TaNtengnomefreak what do u mean with stray marks?02:27
BenUrban...02:27
everton137kenichi, cause I think udev does this detection, no?02:27
gnomefreakproxosi,  make sure only one process is open at a time02:27
brennerdoor: hang on, looking now02:27
BenUrbanAron_Figaro: how about menu.lst?02:27
matrixthk02:27
pr1ri go to synaptic package manager then software preferences, add then i edit repository i go to check the universe and multiverse boxes i click on and they dont stay checked02:27
Aron_FigaroBenUrban: trust me on this one, I drove the support people crazy, it was in menu.lst :P02:27
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kenichieverton137: scsi support should normally be shipped with ubuntu02:27
pr1rim goin crazy the last 5 hrs tryin to get this other monitor to work02:28
gnomefreakn1nj4-TaNten,  look simple as this show me sources list or i cant help you i want your list not source-o-matics list02:28
pr1rneed it to end now,lol02:28
proxosi...02:28
pr1rthanks in advance02:28
Aron_FigarotitleUbuntu, kernel 2.6.12-10-38602:28
Aron_Figaroroot(hd0,2)02:28
Aron_Figarokernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-386 root=/dev/sda3 ro quiet splash02:28
Aron_Figaroinitrd/boot/initrd.img-2.6.12-10-38602:28
Aron_Figarosavedefault02:28
Aron_Figaroboot02:28
Arie-hey guys, can someone help with ndiswrapper?02:28
pabloAnyone knows what can I do to use my faxmodem so as to receive faxes?02:28
proxosinow it shows the previous error.. cant find02:28
Aron_FigaroI apologize for pasting that in here. Didn't realize it was that big.02:28
BenUrbanhmm02:28
jrattner1How can i make a program autostart with KDE?02:28
proxosicant find package flashplayer02:28
n1nj4-TaNtenthat list that the soruce o matic gave me that is the list ia am using02:28
gnomefreakproxosi, do you have synaptic open and updating terminal?02:28
everton137kenichi, then if my mobile was detected /dev/sdX would appear automaticaly?02:28
BenUrbanAron_Figaro: there's a reason i only asked for the kernel line :)02:28
n1nj4-TaNtenso it is identical02:28
doorArie:  what's the problem?02:28
gnomefreakn1nj4-TaNten,  no its not the list they gave you wont give you errors i have the same list02:28
proxosisypnatic not open... updating terminal.. not sure?02:28
Arie-FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted02:28
Aron_FigaroBenUrban: LOL, yeah02:28
Arie-door: that LOL02:28
bimberiproxosi: did you enable multiverse, then apt-get update?02:29
n1nj4-TaNtenill try to run it again02:29
kenichieverton137: yes02:29
everton137kenichi, maybe it's because I use a USB hub02:29
proxosii think so02:29
pablojrattner1: in kde dunno, but in gnome you have it in System - Preferences - Sessions02:29
gnomefreakProxosi how many terms. do you have open?02:29
n1nj4-TaNtenbut i get the error02:29
everton137kenichi, wha do you think?02:29
proxosione02:29
doorArie:  stupid question, but did you try sudo-ing it?02:29
Aron_FigaroI'm having a lot of permission errors when I'm running scripts. Anyone??02:29
n1nj4-TaNtengnomefreak should i run it as root??02:29
pr1ranyone know anything about geforce 5200 i02:29
kenichieverton137: i connect my mobile phone and all my usb storag device through a usb hub02:29
pr1rinstalling drivers?02:29
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gnomefreakn1nj4-TaNten,  and here we go again i need YOUR  etc/apt/sources file not source-o-matics02:29
kenichieverton137: what phone is it?02:29
everton137kenichi, strange problem :(02:29
gnomefreakroots not gonna help you n1nj4-TaNten02:30
everton137kenichi, Nokia 623502:30
Arie-that was the command lol02:30
pabloOh, fuck, did anyone read my msg at least?02:30
hanasakinayone know a way to do yahoo compatible chat and Cam onlin?02:30
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Arie-i'm logged as root02:30
n1nj4-TaNtengnome02:30
kenichieverton137: perhaps it doesnt support beeing a mobile disk02:30
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Arie-door: this is my first day using linux lol02:30
cozsoryy pablo what was the message02:30
n1nj4-TaNtengnomefreak the only thing i can do i sto write it down at this comp02:30
pabloAnyone knows what can I do to use my faxmodem so as to receive faxes?02:30
everton137kenichi, :(02:30
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dooroh...huh...02:30
doorhmmm02:30
Aron_FigaroCan anyone tell me what this IS? bash: ./linux-installer.sh: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied02:30
BenUrbanAron_Figaro: it's a very bad thing02:30
everton137kenichi, ok, do you think I can try something?02:30
BenUrbanwtf did you do to /bin/sh?02:31
everton137kenichi, something elese02:31
Arie-door: it's a huge step from yesterday where i couldn't even get ndiswrapper to accept my driver lol02:31
doorArie:  i know that there are some good explanations on the wiki at ubuntulinux.org02:31
gnomefreakn1nj4-TaNten,  you typing it isnt gonna help much because ther eis something in that file that is causing an error02:31
BenUrbanAron_Figaro: try sudo chmod 755 /bin/sh02:31
Arie-yeah but not for this error02:31
doorArie:  lol...i had the same problems like last month02:31
Arie-that i saw anyway02:31
kenichieverton137: im not that good with linux. sorry i cant help you...02:31
pr1ranyone know anything about nvidia drivers02:31
n1nj4-TaNteni will check it again02:31
Aron_FigaroBenUrban Hmm...that might fix a bajillion problems. I'll try that. I've been having a LOT of permissions problems running random 3rd-party scripts.02:31
everton137kenichi, ok, thanks anyway. cya02:31
pr1rdual monitors???02:31
doorArie:  but i'm not entirely sure what I finally did right, to be hones02:31
n1nj4-TaNtencan it be my network card02:31
n1nj4-TaNten??02:31
BenUrbanAron_Figaro: indeed it will...if it works02:31
kenichieverton137: cya02:31
door*t02:32
Arie-door: LOL02:32
proxosignomefreak: do i have to do add outside repositotries02:32
some_dudeIm lost with the sudo, why dows it want my password ?02:32
gnomefreakn1nj4-TaNten, i dont know can you get online?02:32
Aron_FigaroBenUrban: Nope02:32
BenUrbanthought not02:32
BenUrbanAron_Figaro: what does it say?02:32
gnomefreakproxosi,  for what?02:32
doorArie:  sorry...that's all i've got02:32
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jrattner1Is a pentium 4, a i386 or i686?02:32
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Aron_FigaroBenUrban: When I do Chmod? No error. When I run the script? Same error.02:32
n1nj4-TaNtengnomefreak is it possible to install debian basic system without connection02:32
n1nj4-TaNten?02:32
proxosignomefreak: to install flash on ff02:32
pacman326hi everyone02:32
BenUrbanoh02:32
n1nj4-TaNtenonly with floppies02:32
xspadessome_dude  ubuntuguide.org has a tutorial on getting sudo to not ask for your password02:32
pr1rhey02:32
BenUrbanAron_Figaro: try sudo chmod 755 /bin/bash02:32
gnomefreakproxosi,  i dont know02:32
kenichipr1r: i have set up dual monitor with nvidia drivers02:32
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Aron_FigaroBenUrban: That's what I've been getting CONSTANTLY when I'm trying to do things, and k02:32
pr1ryeah02:32
BenUrbanheh02:32
doorArie:  actually, do you have an up-to-date version of ndiswrapper?02:33
Aron_FigaroBenUrban: Exact same results02:33
pr1rkenichi: howd u do it02:33
dooryou might try sourcefoge.net02:33
BenUrbandunno how you managed to disable exec access to your shell02:33
pr1rive been tryin all day02:33
n1nj4-TaNtengnomefreak how can i check my connection02:33
n1nj4-TaNten?02:33
brennerjrattner1: uname -m02:33
BenUrbanAron_Figaro: ls -l /bin/sh02:33
gnomefreakn1nj4-TaNten,  anything is possible i guess but i dont know how you installed it02:33
some_dudexspades i don't care, but shouldn't that be the root password?02:33
gnomefreakn1nj4-TaNten, open up firefox??????????02:33
xspadessome_dude sudo needs your password02:33
Arie-oh it think i have to tell it to rewrite02:33
brennerjrattner1: in general it's 68602:33
kenichipr1r: there is a good tutorial for this. i sear it for you02:33
n1nj4-TaNtengnomefreak i only have console02:33
jrattner1brenner, ok so i should install the i686?02:33
n1nj4-TaNtenprompt02:33
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BenUrbansome_dude: su uses your root password.  sudo ses your user password02:33
pr1rim havin a problem with the tutorial02:33
Arie-door: yeah i think i have to remove the old one02:33
BenUrban*useds02:33
BenUrban*uses02:33
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kenichipr1r: what tutorial do you have and what problem?02:34
ernie_can i install xFCE by typing "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" from terminal?  or will it break things?  Can you choose between desktops?02:34
doorArie:  oh, ok! cool. good luck!02:34
Aron_FigaroBenUrban: lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 4 2005-10-18 18:12 /bin/sh -> bash02:34
gnomefreakn1nj4-TaNten,  what does sudo apt-get upgrade give you02:34
BenUrbanls -l /bin/bash02:34
xspadesernie_ you can, just select xfce on the session at login02:34
brennerjrattner1: if you wish. in my experience, i can't tell the difference02:34
xspadesonce done that is02:34
ernie_thanks xspades02:34
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gnomefreakernie_, yes02:34
some_dudewhere is the wine package ?02:34
proxosiwhat mediaplayer is comparable to mediaplayer classic ? in linux?02:34
pr1rkenichi: on the tutorial it tells me to check all the boxes in "edit repository" ie: bb/su/u and i try to check them and then i go back and universe and multiverse arent checked02:34
BenUrbanAron_Figaro: try typing /bin/sh02:34
BenUrbansee what you get02:35
Aron_FigaroBenUrban: sh-3.00$ prompt02:35
BenUrbangood good02:35
pr1rkenichi:i went on ubuntu wiki and found something there02:35
kenichipr1r: and what for u need to check them?02:35
pr1rkenichi: thats what the wiki said to do02:35
some_dudeproxosi xmms ?02:35
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some_dudemplayer ?02:35
jorge_rubio1hola02:36
BenUrbanAron_Figaro: what's the first line of the script you're trying to run?02:36
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ernie_hmm terminal tells me i have requested an impossible situation.02:36
pr1rkenichi: it said on repository box click add select each and check all02:36
Aron_FigaroBenUrban: Fetching02:36
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proxosiwat xmms?02:36
Aron_FigaroBenUrban: Can't read it. Unable to detect character encoding.02:36
BenUrbanLMAO02:36
gnomefreakernie_, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop gave you that error?02:36
kenichipr1r: but what software?02:36
BenUrbanAron_Figaro: that's the problem ;)02:36
ernie_yes02:37
Aron_FigaroBenUrban: Great. So much for a supported Linux installer. *kills Atari*02:37
ernie_it said unmet dependancies02:37
BenUrbanlmao02:37
Trashcanlol02:37
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Aron_FigaroThat was UT2004.02:37
BenUrbanAron_Figaro: wait, what are you trying to use to open it?02:37
Trashcanif it cant detect char encoding then its a binary02:37
Trashcan:o02:37
gnomefreakernie_,  did it give you a choice to install the depndencies?02:37
Aron_FigaroBenUrban: Just gedit02:37
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some_dudewhat02:37
pr1rkenichi: this is even before i install the nvidia-glx and the settings package02:37
BenUrbanAron_Figaro: ok, try this:02:37
some_dudewhat is the gui package manager ? synaptic ?02:37
BenUrbanAron_Figaro: head -n 1 /path/to/script02:37
gnomefreaksome_dude, yes02:38
kenichipr1r: ah, isee02:38
ernie_no choice to install them given02:38
Arie-i'm gonna try to remove re-apply02:38
ernie_aat the end it said "The following packages have unmet dependencies:02:38
ernie_  xubuntu-desktop: Depends: libgl1-mesa but it is not going to be installed02:38
ernie_E: Broken packages"02:38
kenichipr1r: so you dont even have installed your nvidia drive?02:38
gnomefreak!info xubuntu-desktop02:38
ubotuxubuntu-desktop: (Xubuntu desktop system), section universe/misc, is optional. Version: 1.4 (breezy), Packaged size: 5 kB, Installed size: 32 kB02:38
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pr1rkenichi: tell you the truth im not even sure02:38
gnomefreakernie_,  do you have universe repo enabled?02:38
some_dudeany problem with kde AND gnome ?02:38
xspadesernie_ http://www.3spades.net/i/sources.list  save your current list, put those in, apt-get update, then install xubuntu-dektop02:38
ernie_i believe i do02:38
pr1rkenichi: everything is so big on this damn monitor right now, im losin track of everything02:38
Aron_FigaroBenUrban: #!/bin/sh02:38
kenichipr1r: what does your synaptic say? is nvidia-glx installed?02:39
Trashcanwtf02:39
n1nj4-TaNtengnomefreak when i run apt-get upgrade and update it fails on every link in source.list02:39
gnomefreaksome_dude, not on breezy that im aware of02:39
Trashcana self extractor should open in gedit anyway02:39
Biscuitian_WarheYo02:39
Trashcanthe america's army one did02:39
franzrooti installed bum to deactivate dictd several  months ago. Now i installed some dictionaries databases and reactivate dictd through bum, but i can't do it works. I look for it wiht ps -A and found nothing. I tried  sudo /etc/init.d/dictd stop followed by a similar start, but i got nothing. Strangely i typed dictd --version and it answered me correctly. Any sugestion of what is going wrong?02:39
pacman326 Hi everyone, I am a complete linux newb, and I need some help. I was able to successfully install the first part of the installation, but when I boot ubuntu, and it tries to finish the installation process, it tells me something about tty, and job process being "off" Can anyone help me?02:39
pr1rkenichi: right now no02:39
BenUrbanAron_Figaro: hmm, my suspicion is that there's some other character(s) on that line that are not visible02:39
Trashcanand ut2k4 demo02:39
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Aron_FigaroBenUrban: Possibly...02:39
BenUrbanAron_Figaro: do you have hexedit?02:39
jdkycdockenichi, sorry i was distracted reading about the issue, the Device part says the usual Nvidia Card such and such... driver "nv" in the old one "nvidia" in the new one (the one that doesn't work)02:39
Aron_FigaroBenUrban: Not at the moment. I'll get it.02:40
BenUrbank02:40
Aron_FigaroBenUrban: and don't worry, I know how to handle a hex editor. :)02:40
pr1rkenichi: i just reinstalled ubuntu again and am doin the whole thing over, the rollback thing didnt work the first time02:40
steven_what a nice day at the beginning of which logging on x-chat in my domitory02:40
BenUrbanheh02:40
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Aron_FigaroBenUrban: 00000000   23 21 2F 62  69 6E 2F 73  68 0A 23 20  54 68 69 73  #!/bin/sh.# This02:40
some_dudei know the answer already, but is wine stable ?02:40
pacman326 Not to sound rude, but can anyone help me with my issue? I can indulge more information if needed02:41
BenUrbanhmm02:41
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BenUrban0A...02:41
kenichijdkycdoc: hmm. curious02:41
jrattner1How do i make a program autostart with KDE02:41
ernie_is there a command to determine wich version of ubuntu i am running?02:41
Arie-praise jesus and hallelujah02:41
gnomefreakn1nj4-TaNten,  you might have bad connection or no connection but other than pinging you connection i dont know i cant remember i think its ping <ipaddress> but im not positive02:41
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kenichipr1r: then install the right one for ur card02:41
BenUrbanAron_Figaro: hmph, 0A is indeed the right char02:41
Biscuitian_WarheYeargh. Everytime I try to enable DMA on my disk drive it spits out in the term that the operation is not supported.02:41
gnomefreakernie_, click the help icon 5.10 will tell you it will have a 5.10 guide02:42
jdkycdockenichi, havent you read about a lot of people having trouble with this? in ubuntu forums there are some guides, im trying to decide what to do02:42
Aron_FigaroBenUrban: any idea why it's up to this then?02:42
kenichipr1r: all i did was installing this driver and configured the xorg.conf02:42
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BenUrbanAron_Figaro: try starting it using /bin/sh:02:42
kenichijdkycdoc: i cant really tell you about troubles. i just installed the driver and the it worked for me02:42
BenUrbanAron_Figaro: /bin/sh /path/to/script02:42
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Arie-i did it i did it iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiid iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit02:42
Arie-lol02:42
Arie-sorry02:43
pr1rkenichi: ok ill try but id be skipping that  adding multi and whatever the other one is check boxes02:43
jdkycdockenichi, ok thanks02:43
doorArie:  woot!02:43
Aron_FigaroBenUrban: SHAZAM02:43
BenUrbanhehe02:43
pr1rthanks ima try now02:43
Aron_FigaroBenUrban: WTF did that do?02:43
ernie_ok, apparently i am running 5.04.  could that present a problem?02:43
Aron_FigaroBenUrban: can you explainify it?02:43
Arie-totally awesome02:43
kenichijdkycdoc: but why isnt the xserver starting? did it say something? for example device not found or something?02:43
BenUrbanAron_Figaro: it did what that first line should've done02:43
BenUrbanwhich is launch the file using the /bin/sh shell02:44
kenichipr1r: skipping what?02:44
pacman326 I believe the exact error message I got was "can't access tty; job control turned off". I get this when I try to run Ubuntu for the first time after it reboots my system02:44
jdkycdocwell, it has quite a messy log in some file02:44
kenichipr1r: and where02:44
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kenichijdkycdoc: can you post it for me?02:44
Aron_FigaroBenUrban: Ahh, I see.02:44
BenUrbanand no i don't know why it didn't work with the first line02:44
kenichijdkycdoc: but not here02:44
Aron_FigaroBenUrban: I assume it read the first "#" to mark a comment. :p02:45
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BenUrbanit is02:45
Aron_FigaroBenUrban: Yeah, then that line was commented out.02:45
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kenichijdkycdoc: but here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/02:45
jdkycdockenichi, yes sure just a minute, thanks02:45
Milk_Heres a good one... Does anyone here know of an app that will monitor the up/down state of a website/web application?02:45
BenUrbanbut linux treats +x files beginning with #! specially02:45
Aron_FigaroBenUrban: Next permission magic issue - my MBR rescue disk. :p02:45
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some_dudeactully sudo is not asking for a password02:45
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Dandelhow do i submit a update to fix a driver problem i found with ubuntu?02:45
kenichijdkycdoc: but i havent got that much time left... i have to go to bed ;) its late here...02:45
Aron_Figaromewmew123 MEOW! =^_^=02:46
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mewmew123Aron_Figaro, hi02:46
BenUrbanwhen you try to execute it, it launches the rest of that line and appends the name of the script to the command line02:46
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Dandelit's one i have with the acx111 and acx100 chips.02:46
pr1rkenichi: on the repositories dialog box click add, there are 3 separate repositories, bb/su/u, select them all and check all the boxes... the boxes that arent stayin checked02:46
BenUrbanthat has the effect of running the script in the interpreter that is specified in that first line02:46
pr1rkenichi: the universe and multiuniverse boxes02:46
kenichipr1r: ah, that you mean02:46
Aron_Figaromewmew123 I saw your name and thought...I should say hello to my fellow kitty.02:46
pr1rkenchi: yes02:46
kenichipr1r: but you can chose the correct driver?02:47
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BenUrbanand the point of using #! is that those interpreters that use it use # for comments02:47
pr1rkenichi: i think its the correct driver02:47
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Aron_FigaroBenUrban: *nods*02:47
mewmew123Is Ubuntu open by default ? I checked iptables -L and it showed default rule of accept for all02:47
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BenUrbanthat includes sh, bash, perl, python, ruby, ...02:47
Aron_FigaroBenUrban: I need a good, current book of Linux programming :)02:47
varsendaggerhey what's happeing?02:47
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BenUrbanlol02:47
pr1rkenichi: nvidia-glx and nvidia-settings02:47
Aron_FigaroBenUrban: Shell scripting is something I'm still fairly new at.02:47
BenUrbanAron_Figaro: no clue where i first learned about the #! magic cookie02:48
BenUrbanand yes that is the technical term for it02:48
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Aron_FigaroBenUrban: Heh. Thanks though, it may come in handy one day.02:48
kenichipr1r: which card do you have? (i dont even have installed the settings packet...)02:48
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Aron_FigaroBenUrban: You're pretty good with this OS. I'm finding Ubuntu to have some weird permissions issues. Want to tackle "what's wrong with my MBR Rescue?"02:48
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pr1rkenichi: i have a geforce fx 5200 agp and a voodoo 3(lol) pci, thats the one im on now cause the other monitor isnt working02:49
Razor-XBenUrban: I thought that's called the shebang?02:49
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BenUrbanRazor-X: lmao, never heard that02:49
FlannelKingWhat's 'sensible-browser'?02:49
varsendaggerAron_Figaro, what kind of permission issues?02:49
FlannelKingis it just a link to a browser?02:49
Razor-XBenUrban: it's on most of the current scripting tutorial websites02:49
BenUrbanmagic cookie applies to the first two bytes of any *nix executable file02:49
varsendaggerFlannelKing, just a browser, yeah02:49
BenUrbanincluding binaries02:49
bshumateBenUrban: it is called the shebang...not the magic cookie02:49
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BenUrbanthe shebang is one of the magic cookies that linux recognizes02:50
kenichipr1r: ah, so you have two cards not one with two monitor outputs?02:50
Razor-Xshebang notation is the common UNIX term for flagging a file as a executable script using the ``#!'' set of characters02:50
bshumateyou are thinking of file magic anyway per binaries... "magic cookie" is an authentication scheme for X02:50
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bshumatekids these days...02:50
FlannelKingso, how do I change it?  is it just a symlink? (I installed konqueror, and now my default browser for xchat (possibly more?) is Konqueror, not FF).02:50
BenUrbanAron_Figaro: i'm pretty good with it because i installed gentoo by hand02:50
DJ_Necrogamihello, im trying to setup samba so i can store files on my server samba is running but it wont let me login with eather my root account or my user account02:50
jdkycdockenichi, the log was overwritten by the succesful start of X with nv, and unfortunately I am too tired to try everything again. thank you anyway, maybe tomorrow ill try again to fix this.02:50
pr1rkenichi: yes, sorry that im not giving all the correct info... at work/watching hockey, lol02:50
BenUrbannote that i have only just installed ubuntu for the first time02:50
Aron_FigaroBenUrban: Stage1?02:50
BenUrbanyes02:50
Razor-Xbshumate: I'm probably a kid, age-wise :)02:50
Aron_FigaroBenUrban: Impressive. I tried that once. Didn't get overly far.02:50
varsendaggerBenUrban, how else can you install gentoo other than by hand02:50
BenUrbanheh02:50
BenUrbanvarsendagger: #gentoo-installer02:51
BenUrban:D02:51
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bshumateRazor-X : werd! i have kids! ;-P02:51
gnomefreakvarsendagger, thats the only way ive ever heard of02:51
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fishdishi don't thank God02:51
Razor-Xbshumate: hahahahaha!02:51
kenichijdkycdoc: sorry that i couldnt help you. i hope tomorrw someone can ;) gn802:51
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Razor-XBenUrban: that defeats the fun of it02:51
BenUrbanthough only one is populated02:51
varsendaggerha ha02:51
Aron_FigaroBenUrban: LOL.02:51
Razor-XBenUrban: Gentoo's all about compilation, and knowing your system inside-out02:51
Razor-X:P02:51
varsendaggerwhat are your other channles02:51
BenUrbanthat's why i picked gentoo02:51
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kenichipr1r: right, then it works different from what ive set up02:51
Aron_FigaroRazor-X: Yeah, I'm learning that. I may switch to Gentoo sooner or later. Maybe I'll wait until I do my next custom rig.02:52
jdkycdockenichi, thanks bye02:52
fishdishBut i'd like to have kids though, after a few years, after getting rich, experienced and making the World a better place02:52
pr1rkenichi: damnit... well thanks for the help02:52
BenUrbanvarsendagger: #gnuscript, #robowar, #pycui, #alephlinux, #alephone02:52
chris__is there anyway that i could make my line-in volume stay the same? i set it to maximum but when i close it, it goes back to minimum.02:52
Razor-XAron_Figaro: I find no need, really, unless you want every app of yours to be compiled efficiently02:52
kenichipr1r: but what you are looking for is called xinerama02:52
Razor-XPortage is the only package manager I like *more* than the dpkg system02:52
kenichipr1r: perhaps that helps02:52
BenUrbanRazor-X: damn straight02:52
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Razor-Xand the apt chain of utilities that act as a frontend to dpkg02:52
BenUrban:D02:52
Aron_FigaroRazor-X: When I do my next custom rig, I'll probably want to do that then, because I've got a need for speed (and a hatred for compile times longer than 10 seconds)02:52
pr1rkenichi: where do i get that???02:52
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Razor-XAron_Figaro: :)02:53
Razor-Xyou'll be saddened when you try and ``emerge mplayer''02:53
some_dudethis is twisted, i just used putty on linux to connect to sshd on windows02:53
Razor-Xwithout swap, on 128 MB of RAM, vim takes about 15 seconds to compile :)02:53
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Fujitsusome_dude: HAha!02:53
varsendaggerwhat happens when you emerge mplayer?02:53
kenichipr1r: xinerama is no program its a configuration for x to set up two monitors02:53
Aron_FigaroRazor-X: on a 64-bit dual core with 2 gigs of ram and a 10gig swap? :P02:53
gnomefreakvarsendagger, isnt emerge = to install?02:54
pr1rkenichi: didnt know that02:54
Razor-XAron_Figaro: I'ld estimate MPlayer would take 5 minutes, at the least02:54
chris__does anyone have any idea as to why my line-in volume keep reseting itself?02:54
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varsendaggerto my knoledge it is like apt-get02:54
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kenichipr1r: perhaps this tutorial helps you out?02:54
kenichihttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/02:54
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Razor-XMPlayer is a ten minute compile for a 1.6ghz CPU (compilation only taxes CPU)02:54
mewmew123Is Ubuntu open by default ? I checked iptables -L and it showed default rule of accept for all02:54
Aron_FigaroRazor-X: LOL. Well, my current rig is only about half that (one core, 1 gig, and the swap's only 2GB)02:54
potusmr_daemon: i tried that command you have me earlier to backup my system..  and its getting stuck on archive.tar.bz2.  i dont want it to add itself to the archieve that would be an endless loop?02:54
kenichipr1r: wrong link02:54
ernie_is anyone running dapper drake?02:54
Aron_FigaroRazor-X: Why does mplayer take so long to compile, anyway?02:54
Razor-Xernie_: lot of people are02:54
gnomefreakvarsendagger,  yeah thats what i meant since install doesnt exsist on gentoo :( compile this compile that :(02:55
Razor-XAron_Figaro: because it's mplayer :)02:55
Razor-Xmplayer can do just about *anything*02:55
kenichipr1r: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors02:55
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Razor-Xat least, if you download the ``all'' codecs package and compile in large-file-support02:55
ernie_Razor-X: is it pretty reliable?02:55
Razor-Xoh yes, it is02:55
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pr1rkenichi: thanks... i will read it during intermission... you have been very helpful02:55
phoulExcuse me i think i have a virus..... If i try to open something it closes instently02:55
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Razor-Xthis box runs cplay as a frontend to mpg123/ogg123 to play music, and mplayer for video02:55
kenichipr1r: its a REALLY good tutorial for all kind of dual monitor set ups02:55
varsendaggerRazor-x can you play the streams form streamwired.com?02:55
AxioeinI am having trouble with MySQL. Does the Ubuntu-4.1 package not have mysql_config?02:55
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phoulAnyone?02:56
Razor-Xphoul: A) Open it in a terminal B) How many Linux virii do you know of?02:56
kenichipr1r: well good night then. its late  here ;)02:56
Razor-Xvarsendagger: I'm not sure about that02:56
franzrootHi, anyone could point me a good resource to look at for infos about Linux daemons?02:56
phoulLol Razor-X none but whats going on02:56
pr1rkenichi: thanks again... have a good night02:56
ShadyHeya, I need help with my network, for some reason this comp can see my network stuff, but my laptop can't, I don't remember doing anything to my network. Can you help me out with the laptop portion?02:56
Razor-Xphoul: like I said :) open it in a terminal02:56
phoulwhy is it doing thins?02:56
phoulWell like its doing it with ALL my programs...02:56
kenichibye @ all02:57
Razor-Xphoul: well, let's see what the problem is, in a terminal02:57
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Razor-Xif it gets dirty, we'll strace the bugger02:57
AxioeinShady: Does your laptop have multiple network terminals?02:57
Axioeinerrr02:57
Axioeinnetwork cards?02:57
xspadesat602:57
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ShadyAxioein, yes, an ethernet and wifi02:57
Razor-Xoh, and, I have 5 minutes left till I leave for self-appointed work02:57
Razor-X:)02:57
ernie_by adding the universe repositories and the sudo apt-get updating, does that give a person the codecs they need ?02:57
phoulRazor-X, i dont know the program name... its the splashscreen editer...02:57
ernie_then02:57
gnomefreakgnome-art02:57
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guido_(self-appointed work?)02:58
phoulgnome its not gnome-art02:58
phoulThats where i got the pics02:58
Razor-Xphoul: is that the only one that crashes?02:58
gnomefreakok worth a shot ;)02:58
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phoulThe thing to apply them,,,02:58
phoulAnd Razor-X no02:58
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phoulwait...02:58
phoulyes02:58
phoulLol02:58
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Razor-Xguido_: the pursuit of knowledge waits for no-one02:58
phoulWhats wrong with it?02:58
Razor-Xphoul: I would like to know the application name...02:58
phoulI dont know it tho02:58
Razor-Xand I don't really have/use Gnome, so I wouldn't know it02:59
guido_R-X: affirmed.02:59
phoulIf you go into system then prefs then spashscreen02:59
gnomefreakwont gimp edit splash screens?02:59
Razor-Xhow 'bout you other people out there, what's the default splashscreen editor?02:59
phoulits just to apply them...02:59
phoulIts in system>prefs>app splashscreen02:59
MasterTsunamihttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4170902:59
gnomefreakRazor-X,  its called gnome splashscreen manager02:59
gnomefreaklol02:59
Razor-Xgnomefreak: ... wow :P03:00
gnomefreaklol03:00
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phoulYou serious gnomefreak?03:00
Razor-Xwhat is the name of the thing to run from the terminal?03:00
unlessg'day everyone03:00
gnomefreaki dont see it being an editor tho03:00
phoulNot editer03:00
Razor-Xcan't you right-click on the menu, and find out the name of the app?03:00
phoulIt just applys them!03:00
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Razor-XI don't know! you people work with menus, you should know how to use them!03:00
phoulRazor-X, no i cant03:00
gnomefreakphoul,  the only way i know of to get this manageer is to install gnome-art03:01
Razor-X:P03:01
dragoon!pastebin03:01
Razor-Xwell, I take my leave03:01
uboturumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com03:01
phoulgnome i have it dude03:01
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unlessHey, I've been having a bitch of a time trying to get java installed on my new install, mainly because I have no idea what package contains 'make-jpkg', anyone know what I should get?03:01
phoulIf i try to open the splashscreen thing it closes03:01
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brennergnomefreak: it is?  i always thought you had to go through gconf. i.e. there is no default splahs image mgr03:01
phoulOr crash's03:01
ShadyCan anyone help me get my laptop side of the network up? For some reason the desktop can access it put the lappy can't.03:01
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dragoonhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.com/45344203:01
dragoonany ideas?03:01
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phoulgnomefreak, what do i do if its crashing?03:02
phoulIt seemed to start crashing when i added a screen from gnome-art03:02
brennerunless: ask ubotu about java03:02
dragoon??03:02
AxioeinShady: Did you check to make sure everything is plugged in? After that to make sure that the connection is active?03:02
gnomefreakphoul,  is gnome art crashing too?03:02
brennerunless: and future reference: packages.ubuntu.com   ... you can do a file search03:02
phoulOnly when i try to add a splashscreen03:02
ernie_anyone recomend a game to run on an older machine?03:03
fishdishhm03:03
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unlessbrenner: Thanks, but I already checked there and there's nothing.03:03
ShadyAxioein, everything is plugged in. And I can use the internet on it.03:03
dragoonany ideas about my qt issues03:03
phoulgnomefreak, if i try to use the splashscreen button in system>prefs the thing crash's03:03
phoulAnd i really would like it working...03:03
gnomefreakphoul,  good question i dont change the splashscreen i like original03:03
phoulgnomefreak, just how do i get into it...03:04
AxioeinShady: What type of network are you after?03:04
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Biscuitian_WarheThis is kinda random, but where does a computer store your Username and Password to match with your login details?03:04
gnomefreakphoul,  does it ever complain about a broken pacakage?03:04
AxioeinShady: a local network? with shares and the like?03:04
gnomefreakpackage*03:04
phoulUmm i cant seem to open it with the terminal because i dont know the ap name03:04
ShadyAxioein, yeah just a LAN03:04
gnomefreakphoul,  what version of ubuntu?03:05
phoulUhh03:05
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phoulIt never did this before tho03:05
phoulBut i dont know03:05
Aron_FigaroBenUrban: Well, I got UT2004 to work nicely, but then it crashed when I died.03:05
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dragoon??03:05
Blah`dragoon needs help with this ------------> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/45344203:05
Blah`someone please answer03:05
dragoonindeed i do03:05
BenUrbanAron_Figaro: maybe your avatar is more tied into your system than you think?03:05
gnomefreakphoul,  do you see the help icon in gnome?03:05
BenUrban:D03:05
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gnomefreaklooks like a life perserver?03:06
dragoonseems to be something out of the ordinary03:06
Aron_FigaroBenUrban: Huh? :P03:06
BenUrbanwhen you die, it dies03:06
Aron_FigaroBenUrban: Great. :P03:06
phoulyeah i do gnome03:06
Aron_FigaroBenUrban: So much for my Onslaught play style XD03:06
AxioeinAnyone have any experience with mySQL on Ubuntu?03:06
Aron_FigaroAxioein: Me Me Me! XD03:07
gnomefreakclick it you should see a version in there03:07
gnomefreak5.10 will have a guide03:07
GTroycan someone give me some easy advice?03:07
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AxioeinAron: What version? the 4.0? 4.1?03:07
BenUrbanAron_Figaro: i've heard rumors of an fps game that kills processes03:07
Mighty_WhiteySure, go to school...03:07
Aron_FigaroAxioein: This one I know. Basically just follow the install guide to the letter...and it should theoretically work. I did it in 5.03:07
GTroyon user name03:07
gnomefreakGTroy,  define easy03:07
gnomefreaklol03:07
Aron_FigaroBenUrban O.o03:07
GTroyreally easy03:07
BenUrbanyou run around your system and shoot processes03:07
BenUrbanand they die03:07
gnomefreakGTroy, ask it03:07
Aron_FigaroBenUrban: Cute03:07
BenUrbanyep03:07
gnomefreakplease03:07
Blah`dragoon needs help with this ------------> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/45344203:08
phoulgnomefreak, if i run gnome-splashscreen-manager in a terminal it does the following03:08
GTroywhere is the paste channel?03:08
GTroytwo lines03:08
gnomefreakubotu tell GTroy  about paste03:08
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AxioeinAron: which install guide? the once from source?03:08
phoul/usr/lib/ruby/1.8/gnome-splashscreen-manager/splash_screens.rb:192:in `last_write': Unrecognized image file format (Gdk::PixbufError)03:08
gnomefreakGTroy,  your pm should have the link to pastebin03:08
phoulthats the first line03:08
phoulThe rest looks correct03:08
YouCeyEhi.. i want to copy entire partition and back it up03:08
YouCeyEany better way than using dd?03:08
GTroygnomefreak lets try #flood03:08
BenUrbanYouCeyE: tar03:08
FlannelKingAnyone know how I can modify sensible-browser to use another browser?03:08
YouCeyEdd is copying empty data also03:08
guido_Axe: Are you installing MySQL or running it? If you're just installing, check out XAMPP ... it's a pretty cool all-in-one for Apache, MySQL, PHP and Perl03:09
dragoonany ideas about this problem http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/45344203:09
YouCeyEBenUrban, can u enlighten me how to use tar for backing up03:09
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GTroygnomefreak: can you help?03:09
AxioeinI am writting a perl script to store data in a DB....03:09
BenUrbanYouCeyE: tar -cpjvf /path/to/tar/file.tar.bz2 /03:09
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AxioeinI don't want anything else.03:09
BenUrbanYouCeyE: that's the gist of it, but you'll want more options03:09
BenUrbanYouCeyE: for example, you want to exclude the resulting tar file from the backup03:10
gnomefreakphoul,  im not real sure its saying that pic format isnt right. i would try to remove it using synaptic doa  full remove and reinstall gnome-art see if that fixes it03:10
guido_Axe: Sorry.. i only do php03:10
YouCeyEthanks BenUrban03:10
GTroyall I get is invalid user gnomefreak03:10
Blah`n00bers03:10
Blah`wake up03:10
AxioeinThats OK guido.03:10
YouCeyEdoes tar copy empty blocks?03:10
YouCeyElike dd?03:10
Blah`dragoon needs help with this ------------> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/453442 HELP HIM AS I TRYED AND IM LOST03:10
gnomefreakGTroy, please be less general that user03:10
BenUrbanYouCeyE: nope, it only archives files03:10
BenUrbanYouCeyE: and directories03:10
YouCeyEcool03:10
chris86wmhey yall here is a question: I use the "line-in"03:10
chris86wm input to listen to TV in breezy. I noticed that everytime I restart the machine,03:10
chris86wmthe line-in slider/control is set to zero, all the way down, I03:10
chris86wmconstantly have to readjust it before I can watch/listen to television.03:10
chris86wm Does anyone experience the same?03:10
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YouCeyEdo i need to mount the drive before i do tar?03:10
gnomefreakubotu tell chris86wm  about paste03:11
chris86wmyeah sry03:11
YouCeyEdd doesnt need to mount the drive03:11
Blah`oh bye bye u fucking yanks03:11
BenUrbanYouCeyE: note that it won't archive your partition table or bootloader03:11
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Dr_AcemasterI have a wireless connection that was working fine till today all of a sudden it's not working, and I can't pull an ip address from my router, any ideas?03:11
BenUrbanYouCeyE: yes, you need to mount it03:11
BenUrbanYouCeyE: replace that final / with the mount point03:11
YouCeyEBenUrban, no problem03:11
YouCeyEi have /boot partition separately03:11
BenUrbanyou should mount it read only if you can03:11
chris86wmanyway does anyone know why it does that?03:11
nickolianybody here install the winex cvs from transgaming.org03:11
YouCeyEi will do dd on that.. its just 100 mb03:11
unlessbrenner: Got it working, just had to get the order right.03:11
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dragoonhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.com/453442 ffs does anyone know, could i even just get some recognition that i asked a question03:11
Dr_AcemasterI've used wi-fi radar to find the network, but can't get it to connect03:11
BenUrbanYouCeyE: when i said bootloader, i meant the one installed into the master boot record03:12
brennerunless: well done03:12
GTroysee I don't know which user name goes in which spot03:12
BenUrbanYouCeyE: which is not in any filesystem03:12
gnomefreakinvalade user while doing what?03:12
YouCeyEk BenUrban03:12
GTroyuser or **user_name**03:12
Dr_Acemasterheh well dragoon, I can see that you've typed some text, but don't see your question03:12
gnomefreakGTroy,  did you install ubuntu?03:12
GTroyyep03:12
navaroneYouCeyE,  you can also try g4l at freshmeat I think...you can download image for bootable cd and use it to boot and image a partiition to another or remote server03:12
gnomefreakthe name you typed in during install is your user name03:12
Dr_Acemasterdragoon appears to be busy in here, could be neither of us will get any help :)03:13
GTroyby default ubuntu?03:13
gnomefreaksame with the password03:13
BenUrbannavarone: the advantage to using tar is that absolutely *any* bootable linux cd can restore the backup03:13
YouCeyEBenUrban, so for example if i want to just reinstall on a new hard drive.. i make partitions and copy /boot and tarred partition and should be able to restore the old, right?03:13
chris86wmnobody knows?03:13
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GTroyso in the command line I leave as user:GTroy ?03:13
gnomefreakGTroy,  while installing ubuntu it asked for a user name and password that name you typed in than is your user name and the password is your sudo password03:13
BenUrbanYouCeyE: you will need to do grub install again iirc03:13
brennerdragoon: you running dapper?03:13
GTroygotcha03:13
BenUrbanor whatever bootloader you use03:14
navaroneBen...I would think g4l is the same...but I'm not a cli commando like some so I favour it03:14
dragoonim running breezy03:14
YouCeyEmy /boot has grub install in it03:14
YouCeyEalong with mbr as its the first partition03:14
gnomefreakGTroy, the first part of the prompt is your user name the second part is the computer name03:14
brennerdragoon: what repo you getting skype fro?03:14
brenner*from03:14
GTroyhot diggity03:14
dragoonthe skype one....03:15
dragoonerr03:15
gnomefreakmine is boxerboy@linux$03:15
GTroyall I needed to know03:15
gnomefreakgood03:15
gnomefreakok im out for tonight ladies and gents03:15
dragoondeb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free03:15
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brennerdragoon: try seveas' deb.  ask ubotu about skype03:16
dragoonubotu tell me about skype03:16
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brennerdragoon: download it, then install with 'sudo dpkg -i <deb file>'03:16
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GTroygnomefreak still not getting it03:17
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ShadyHow do I make a LAN? I have everything connected but the share folders aren't showing up on my other ocmp.03:18
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brennerdragoon: it seemsd the issue you were having is actually described on the wiki page ubotu linked to03:18
dragoonoh really ?03:18
brenneri.e. the skype package doesn't list that qt one as a dependency03:18
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rhoffacan someone tell me what i need to type in the terminal to have permission to a folder03:18
brennerso you'd need to install that one manualy beforehand03:18
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rhoffai copied something from cd and it wont let me rename the tags03:19
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dragoonok03:19
brennerdragoon: or just use seveas' one, which i'd assume he'd set that dependency up for us03:19
dragoonthanks03:19
brennernp03:19
doorrhoffa: first type in ls -l to see who does supposedly own them03:19
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Shadyanyone want to help me out with a lan problem.03:20
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rhoffadoor - just in the terminal03:20
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lordluclessCan dovecot sort mail to differen mailboxes based on the addressee's domain, on servers which serve more than one domain?03:20
doorthen, if it's root, type sudo chown [yourusername]  [filenames] 03:20
rhoffai been through this before i just want everything i put on my desktop for me to have permission too03:20
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dsl3383Hi all, will ubuntu run well on an old computer?03:20
rhoffai dont want files i want my whole home directory03:20
doortry a * then for the filename03:21
MiSS_n00bruns okay on my piece ofcrap03:21
doormaybe?03:21
bimberidsl3383: what specs (ram, disk, processor speed)03:21
dragooneasy03:21
Arie-Hey, how do I modify my modules file?03:21
dsl338364MB 6GB 233Mhz03:21
brennerdragoon: worked out?03:21
dragoonyea :)03:21
paulitohas there been anyone here who have sucessfully installed a ubuntu instance in a windows based vmware session??03:21
MiSS_n00bit'll be sloooow03:21
brennerdragoon: seveas's deb?03:21
dragoonnah i used the skype howto03:21
bimberidsl3383: gnome would be very slow ... i'd do a server install then try installing xubuntu-desktop03:22
brennerrighto then03:22
dsl3383just trying to learn linux in a user friendly ditro03:22
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rhoffadoor it says too few arguments03:22
unlessAnyone mind helping me with an Azureus install?03:22
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dsl3383thanks I might be back....03:23
brennerdsl3383: like bimberi said, the default desktop environment (gnome) would be too slow.03:23
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rhoffai want permission to everything, all the time03:23
clint-hi all03:23
rhoffaand i dont know what to type to get that03:23
doorhmm... i could have sworn it was chown [username]  [filenames]  or something03:23
proxosiis vlc player combatible with ubuntu?03:23
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clint-anyone, know probably what would be my best bet to making my mp3's into.. flac or ogg? or?03:23
doorrhoffa:  try man chown03:23
rhoffain the brackets03:23
brennerproxosi: sure is.  there's a vlc package in the repo03:23
clint-and mpeg 's into moer compressed, but still nice, thats really my own problem with ubuntu :)03:23
brennerproxosi: universe repo to be exact03:24
Khisanthclint-: what do you hope to get out of doing that?03:24
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clint-hope?03:24
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rhoffadoor - that means nothing to me i dont understand03:24
clint-its not a matter of hope, I am pushing myself everyday, and Into more systems than the adverage, .. etc..03:24
Mighty_WhiteyIs ubuntu more compatible with most modems than other distros?03:24
brennerclint-: lossy -> lossy = more lossy03:24
Khisanthwell you certainly aren't getting any better sound out of that03:24
bshumateclint-: converting from one lossy format to another is not typically a good thing(tm)03:24
CoweaterMighty_Whitey: no03:24
clint-Xandros Business 3., Linspire 5.0, PC BSD , Fedora Core ,03:25
Mighty_Whiteybummer03:25
Khisanthand flac would probably result in a loss of space :)03:25
rhoffai tried sudo chown user/home03:25
SCMarkbshumate: you can't trademark that!03:25
rhoffadidnt work03:25
Mighty_Whiteywhy are modem drivers such a nightmare in Linux?03:25
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linkdto make it interesting03:25
Khisanthusing a winmodem?03:25
bshumateSCMark: mah homegurl Martha has it trademarked03:25
clint-when I put mp3 cd in, or mpeg, that music videos on, but I am putting to this nice new 80 GB External , I got, usb 2.0 and firewire, but I don' use the firewire, F A Porsche,03:25
CoweaterMighty_Whitey: because manufacturers don't care about linux, get a decent hardware modem and you'll be fine for life03:25
linkdthe problem is there are so many models of modems on the market. its hard to write drivers for all. and the manufactures tend to just write them for the commonly used platform.. windows03:26
Mighty_Whiteywinmodem, conexant, usb, you name it I've tried it...03:26
rhoffadoes anyone know the command so i have permission to my entire hard drive03:26
clint-Xandros runs Office real nice, even better than windows, and Power Point, the graphics are unreal ;)03:26
SCMarkthen let me just say : You can't trademark that! (tm)03:26
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KhisanthCoweater: heh or move away from dialup :)03:26
rhoffaor at least my home folder so i dont have to deal with this permission bullshit anymore03:26
Coweaterit's always good to have a backup03:26
Mighty_WhiteyHow much are serial modems on average?03:26
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clint-rhoffa: , /etc/fstab03:26
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clint-you want it to automount all of your partitions for you huh :)03:27
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clint-funny thing, PC BSD does.. :D03:27
jgrieveshow can i get hte latest ubuntu kernel source?03:27
jgrievesdapper03:27
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brennerMighty_Whitey: you talking about dialup modems?03:27
jgrieveskernel-source is like 2.4 :)03:27
rhoffathat didnt work clint03:27
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Mighty_WhiteyYeah03:27
SCMarkrhoffa: sudo -s03:27
rhoffascmark - what after that03:27
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SCMarkrhoffa: enter your password and you are root.  Full acess to all your files03:28
rhoffascmark - does that mean i have permission03:28
rhoffafor now own03:28
Dr_Acemasterwifi radar says connected to my network, but it can't pull an ip address, any ideas?03:28
rhoffaon03:28
rhoffai just want permission, to all my stuff it seems like once i get it fixed ill save something somehwere else and ill need permission again03:29
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SCMarkrhoffa: you will have full permission in your terminal session... What are you having permission problems with?03:29
rhoffai copied mp3s off a cd03:29
rhoffatried to tag them03:29
flodinewhats the command for kubutnu to be installed03:29
rhoffasays i cant03:29
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bimberiflodine: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop03:29
flodinethxs03:29
brennerMighty_Whitey: well, i can recommend this u.s. robotics one03:29
bimberinp :)03:30
jgrievesis 686 ok for pentium M chips?03:30
Mighty_Whiteywhich ?03:30
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rhoffascmark - i would like to have permission to /home/rhoffa03:30
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rhoffaand everything underneath it so what do i need to type in the terminal for that03:30
bshumaterhoffa:  sudo chown -R rhoffa:rhoffa /home/rhoffa03:31
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SCMarkrhoffa: open a terminal, and type chmod 755 -R /home/rhoffa03:31
brennerMighty_Whitey: hang on, i'll try and google it03:31
Arie-Hey, I need to add a line to modules how do I do that?03:31
Mighty_WhiteyOK, thanks03:31
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SCMarkrhoffa: I guess bshumate's suggestion is better/more likely to work03:32
bimberi*303:32
rhoffai did them both03:32
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Arie-Hello?03:32
rhoffathanks you guys03:32
brennerMighty_Whitey: and this dbase might be interesting: http://www.devidal.tv/~chris/winmodems/#Database03:32
clint-I'll just read debian bible.. funk this03:32
FlannelKing Any way to get EVMS to stop checking a partition on boot?03:33
Mighty_WhiteyThank you03:33
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Arie-Hello?03:33
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cyphaseis there a way to make icons default to the right in nautilus?03:36
ShadyCan anyone help me out with my LAN,03:36
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cyphasei wanna try out the Mac placement :)03:36
clint-I know what I'll do03:36
desplesdai have both wireless access and wired access for my laptop, is there any way to get the system to automatically route data through the wire when it's plugged in and through the wireless when it's not?03:36
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HericusI want to run debian. :(03:36
clint-I'm going to, use Sony Sound Forge 8, and I will just convert my mp3's to flac, or ogg.. :)03:36
HericusI don't have the bandwidth..03:36
clint-Hericus:03:37
clint-all you need is the first binary cd03:37
HericusI'm on dialup. :)03:37
clint-I have 3.1 sarge, Binary cd 1, you can just use 1 cd, and install all ther other apps later whatever03:37
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clint-its np, I'll send to you however long it takes03:37
desplesdaHericus:  running debian on dialup is pretty painless, you just run your updates every week overnight or so03:37
clint-I'm getting into Fiber Optics m8 , in mY college03:37
HericusThat would be nice, however being in Nigeria currently is a pain in itself.03:38
brennerMighty_Whitey: http://www.usr-emea.com/products/p-dialup-product.asp?prod=hom-messv92-ex&loc=unkg03:38
clint-i see03:38
Hericusdesplesda, I wanted to get gentoo on the lappy..03:38
clint-can I mail it to you?03:38
Arie-can anyone see me?03:38
varsendaggerwhere are my firefox bookmarks kept?03:38
Mighty_WhiteyThank you very much, I'll check it out03:38
Hericusclint-,  3 months is a long time ;p03:38
desplesdaArie-:  yes03:38
Arie-oh i was wondering03:38
HericusBesides I'm moving house soon.03:38
bimberiArie-: no :P03:38
HericusMaybe then.03:38
Arie-cuz no one was answering03:38
clint-I'm getin 5 ubuntu cd's office. but I"m into PC BSD as well :)03:38
clint-talkin about speed.. 8-)03:39
HericusI don't like PCBSD.03:39
brennerMighty_Whitey: i have to use a serial-usb converter though03:39
DGaugehow do I log into ubuntu as system admin? I have the username and password but the login says I can't login at that screen03:39
varsendaggerwhat is PCBSD?03:39
desplesdavarsendagger:  .mozilla/firefox/{default profile}/bookmarks.html03:39
Hericussudo su dGauge.03:39
varsendaggerohhh03:39
clint-its KDE on FreeBSD03:39
varsendaggerthanks03:39
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desplesdaDGauge:  GDM doesn't let you login as root using it03:39
HericusThe installation is a breeze aswell.03:39
clint-yes it is ;)03:39
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desplesdaDGauge:  if you want to have a root shell, run sudo -s03:39
Hericussudo is flawed.03:40
clint-12 minutes on this Acer Aspire 3613 WLCi , 512 DDR2, 1.5 ghz :D03:40
Mighty_Whiteywould that converter work for other usb modems?03:40
Mighty_WhiteyI have a usb USrobotics 5633a03:40
Hericusclint-, I hear acer lappys aren't really worth getting.03:40
bimberiDGauge: sudo -i - once logged in as a user with sudo access03:40
clint-no wonder they programmed Mac OS X off FreeBSD :)03:40
Hericusclint, what're your views?03:41
DGaugewell I need a graphical interface for setting up some things I'm not very good at setting up say the modems in root shell03:41
clint-well I have had some problems with support for this acer aspire, ;) I got mine for free from college, I can't complain03:41
brenneryou may not need one.  i just said that b/c this lappy doesn't have a serial port03:41
clint-but yeah, get something that supports linux defanately :D03:41
Hericusclint-, yeah..03:41
brennerMighty_Whitey: only usb ones, so i had to get the converter03:41
HericusA dell inspiron 9300.03:41
clint-don't try instaling debian to an acer laptop thats for sure ;)03:41
HericusHuh?03:41
HericusWhy not?03:41
HericusI wanted to get an Acer Travemate03:41
Mighty_WhiteyOK, I'll have to look into one of those too03:41
bimberiDGauge: System -> Admin -> Networking03:42
clint-not worth the time m8, in my research of it, thats geared towards building on workstations, so you can add all the drivers and everthing , or just want to run a server03:42
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brennerMighty_Whitey: you don't have a serial port either?03:42
clint-1 thing will say about  unbuntu is03:42
clint-its awesome for its hardware detection03:42
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DGaugebimberi: so do "sudo -i " after a log in with my regular account and then do system->admin->network?03:43
Mighty_WhiteyYeah, I do just not a serial modem.03:43
clint-I'll work around the mp3 , and mpeg latencies03:43
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Hericusclint-, what distro's other than deb. gentoo, do you run/03:43
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clint-I'll just use my Sony Sound Forge 8, or ACID , or my CAkewakl Sonar software, and convert my mp3's to linux formats, and unix etc.. no worries03:43
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Arie-Ok can someone help me reail quick?03:44
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bimberiDGauge: no, just the latter03:44
clint-I run them on 1 hard drive, and my other workstation is different, I use Acronis Disk Director Suite 903:44
Arie-Please?03:44
clint-for laptop03:44
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Hericusahh cool.03:44
FujitsuArie-, what?03:44
HericusShould I stick with ubuntu? get deb? slackware? or should I just get gentoo on a lappy?03:45
clint-Xandros Business 3.0, Linspire 5.0, PC BSD, Fedora Core 4, waiting on 5 official to come out, Ubuntu, I installed the kde packages, that was a breeze,03:45
Mighty_WhiteyGotta go, thanks for the help brenner03:45
FujitsuI don't like Fedora.03:45
clint-I even tried Suse, and Mandriva03:45
bimberiDGauge: "sudo -i" will give you a root login shell if you need it for CLI stuff.  Then you said you wanted GUI :)03:45
brennerMighty_Whitey: np, good luck!03:45
Mighty_WhiteyThanks03:45
clint-I don't limit myself, thats me, I'm installing PC BSD to a pen drive03:45
Hericusclint-, the only distro that you run that I like in the list is ubuntu..03:45
DGaugedarn that means my modem isn't supported by ubuntu :(03:45
cee-jayhi. can i install Breezy on a USB hard drive?  I have to use xp at work, but i'd like to sneak in Ubuntu when i can use it.  :)03:45
clint-well thats me03:46
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clint-I don't care what people like that I like... 2 each of there own, I don't look for cridicts03:46
HericusAye.03:46
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HericusI'll just try running ubuntu + gentoo on it.. thing is HD space..03:46
clint-yes you can03:46
clint-even an external usb if you want03:47
Tsingianyone have problems with devhelp not working?03:47
Arie-Fujitsu: How do I modify modules?03:47
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FujitsuArie-, what do you mean by modify?03:47
clint-I just got this awesome 80 GB USB 2.0 and firewire, however I don' t use firewire, no need,but I'm not going install an operating system to it03:47
Arie-I need to add a line03:47
cee-jayOK, I should say that I just installed on my external USB drive, but booting after install--grub doesn't like the drive definitions..03:48
clint-you can take an internal hard drive, and dvd burner, and inclose them, and run them as usb , thats a gag03:48
Fujitsusudo gedit /etc/modules, Arie-03:48
Tsingialso, it this isn't the channel to ask about fixing devhelp, is there somewhere else?03:48
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clint-and make them external lol. they make cases for that lmao03:48
clint-never limit yourself :)03:48
Arie-thanks03:48
HericusI'd probably get an external 60GB I saw.03:48
HericusIt was a bit pricy..03:48
HericusI'd have to get the travelmate if I want an external then03:49
clint-I got this LACIE F A Porsche from my College,03:49
cee-jayclint -- are you saying I should install with the HDD in my PC first, then move it to a USB enclosure and boot?03:49
HericusMy budget is slightly low..03:49
clint-it was $19903:49
Hericusclint-, the college I'm going to would give me a lappy aswell so that'll make two :p03:49
clint-yes you can put hard drives, roms.. whatever in enclosures03:49
Auto|MaGQuestion for someone about wireless w/ madwifi - Im trying to get my wireless card to work, but I think i did something out of order. Dmesg is listing ath_hal and ath_pci before wlan. Dosent wlan need to come first?03:49
clint-they gave me 1 :)03:49
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clint-->  www.robertmorris.edu/cs/03:50
clint---->  http://www.robertmorris.edu/cs/03:50
clint-theres link for ya03:50
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HericusThanks.03:50
HericusC.S huh? :p03:50
clint-np03:50
cee-jayok, off to try this install method.  thanks clint!03:50
Tsingihmm, maybe I asked the wrong question03:50
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clint-yes03:50
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clint-don't thank me.. thank Ubuntu :)03:51
RoyceI'm not sure if I have samba configured correctly, when I browse networks, I find windows network, but inside that none of the systems show03:51
DShepherdhey03:51
ShadyHow do I install the codecs for DVD play in totem?03:51
Hericusclint-, http://www.abti-american.edu.ng thats the college I should be going to in jan.03:51
clint-1 thing I can say is, I love running Xandros because of its .. awesome Codeweavers Cross Over, , I instal Office, and it runs like a charm, even power points graphics are great03:52
bimberiubotu tell shady about restricted03:52
DShepherd!tell Shady about RestrictedFormats03:52
clint-cool03:52
TsingibI'm running ubuntu, hedgehog, devhelp does not work, I uninstalled and reinstalled it, still doesn't work, anyone know where to get help with this?03:52
clint-well, I just got in September..03:52
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DGaugewth? my network isn't set the ppp0 isn't configed :/03:52
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clint-I been studying systems though, for year and such... but I don't consider that studying, the more I Don't chat, and read, and apply the concepts. thats studying, and I got plenty of software and books to keep me busy,, both windows and open source03:53
clint-Rhinoceros 3d, Maxon, Autodesk 3ds Max 8, Maya, and so on03:53
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clint-I'm also, going to be ordering an nfr, intrusion detection system, from www.nfr.com,03:53
clint-Highly into the internet security Hericus03:54
Tsingiis there another time of day when you can ask questions on this channel and get some kind of acknowlegement?03:54
HericusYes, yes of course.03:54
Hericusclint-, thing is, I'm more into the programming/web design kinda thang.03:54
HericusI haven't really had time for sec.03:54
clint-me as well.. into it l03:54
clint-all*03:55
Royceanybody have any tips for getting access to windows networks?03:55
HericusWhen I get into college and get two lappys I'll have time for all that :D03:55
brennerTsingi: what probs you having with it?03:55
clint-;)03:55
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Tsingibrenner, it doesn't work.  May have something to do with my firefox install, not sure, does devhelp use the web browser?03:56
bimberiRoyce: i have found the network browser a bit unreliable too - but had better luck just connecting to shares directly using Places -> Connect to Server03:56
DGaugeI'm surprising my CIS instructors not only am I the first student at the college to go for all 7 major AAS majors, but I'm also the first one that is in the beginning (planning) stages of making my own OS03:56
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brennerTsingi: not sure.  the apt-cache entry says it uses gecko03:56
DShepherdRoyce: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba?highlight=%28Samba%29 <-- try this03:56
clint-yeah, open source allows you to do alot DGauge03:56
clint-or file system?03:56
Rage_ZOMG Ubuntu rox... apt-get install acidrip...03:57
clint-or more like a custom build?03:57
brennerTsingi: probably it's own viewer based on gecko engine03:57
Tsingibrenner: hmm, I guess you haven't heard of this before then.  I don't use it much, the firefox install was just a guess.03:57
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DGaugeMy Operating System is just bare ideas right now but I know C/C++/ASM and have some great sites to look to for advice03:58
Tsingibrenner: I tried uninstalling it and reinstalling it, that did nothing.  Is there an error log somewhere it would write to, or that the app launcher would write to that I could check?03:58
bimberiRoyce: um, note that you only need to install samba if you want ubuntu to act as a server.  smbclient (for using ubuntu as a client) is installed by default03:58
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DGaugehow do I config ppp0 under ubuntu? I can't seem to find the right option :/03:58
clint-are you studying algorithms?03:58
Roycebimberi: cool, thanx03:58
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brennerTsingi: how are you running it? thru terminal?03:59
Royce20100203:59
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Tsingibrenner: from the applications->programming->devhelp on the taskbar04:00
hatred_hey guys, got a networking question for you,04:00
mars_?04:00
hatred_i can gain access to the net on my laptop via my computer04:00
bob832to change the port for ssh, do i edit the ssh_config or the sshd_config file?04:00
ulinskiewhat's the advantage of breezy from hoary?04:00
hatred_however the laptop & comp can't ping each other04:00
hatred_most oncfused04:00
hatred_any ideas?>04:00
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ulinskieI am running hoary right now, but quite hesitant to upgrade it into breezy04:01
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Tsingibrenner: tried from a terminal, heh, got: devhelp: error while loading shared libraries: libgtkembedmoz.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory04:01
bimberibob2_: sshd_config04:01
hatred_bob832 -: i'd say sshd ?04:01
Tsingibrenner: looks like a mozilla thing04:01
bob832ok, thanks04:01
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clint-router?04:01
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mars_I can't find out the GPRS drivers04:02
clint-what type of network you have setup hatred_, how do you have the computers networked04:02
Tsingibrenner: I'll reinstall mozilla and see if that works, is there an ubuntu install for firefox 1.5?  I need it.04:02
clint-what type of firewalls are you running, what type of sysems are you running04:02
clint-systems*04:02
hatred_uhm, just 2 comps connected04:02
brennerTsingi: *nod*.  you suspected firefox?  did you do a custom install or something?04:02
hatred_no switch04:02
clint-i see04:02
bimberibob832: note that you can run it on multiple ports if you like - using multiple "Port #" lines04:02
Tsingibrenner: heh, yeah04:02
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MoonRangerdoes ubuntu have a firewall enabled right after you install it from cd04:03
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clint-I made a standard broadband dsl modem, into a router, which really, no full capabilities. but still served as a splitter :D04:03
clint-MoonRanger: , I believe so :)04:03
brennerTsingi: not sure on the 1.5 thing.  i jsut use the default04:03
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brennerTsingi: hit the forum04:03
brenneror the wiki04:03
sally_what package do I need to install to make mplayer play encrypted dvds04:03
bimberiMoonRanger: a fresh ubuntu install has no external ports listening04:03
bob832bimberi: oh, i just wanted to change the default port to increase security but thats for the tip04:03
Tsingibrenner: I can't use the default, 1.5 has SVG support, working with it.04:03
oblibDoes anyone know how to set up vncserver so that is starts a new X session for vnc access?04:04
DGaugehow do I config ppp0?04:04
mars_I wanna use GPRS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!04:04
bimberibob832: np :)04:04
hatred_DGauge pppconfig ?04:04
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linux_n00b_eWhere site could I go to to help me do MB to GB conversions?04:04
Tsingibrenner: can you give me some addies for those?04:04
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brennerTsingi: wiki.ubuntu.com and ubuntuforums.org04:04
DGaugeoh yeah  heh :)04:04
hatred_;)04:04
whyameyehow do I remove a module permanently? If I use rmmod, the module reloads next time I reboot.04:04
Tsingibrenner: thanks dude.04:04
clint-Hericus: , want to see what I am into doing,, and DGauge, you might like this04:04
MoonRangeri just installed pidentd and its not working would it be because i have to do something with the firewall and port 11304:04
Hericusclint-, sure. :)04:05
brennerTsingi: np04:05
clint-pimp this.. -> http://www.iconbase.com/04:05
mars_who can speak Chinese?04:05
whyameyeanybody have experience here with the fgrlx ATI drivers?04:05
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pr1rok can someone help me... i have 2 monitors... having a problem setting up the agp card, its an nvidia geforce fx04:06
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DGaugeI'm looking04:06
pr1ri asked before and what i got isnt working04:06
Hericusclint-, thats pretty good photoshop work.04:06
hatred_hey, anyone have any ideas why the computers on my network can't see eachother?04:06
hatred_i can gain net access04:06
Hericusclint-, I'm somewhat dissapointed that you're selling them however.04:06
hatred_but can't ping the other computers on the network04:06
hatred_most confused...04:06
clint-;)04:06
bimberiwhyameye: if hotplug is installing the module then adding it to /etc/hotplug/blacklist will stop that04:07
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watnouyou need to define a gateway04:07
DGaugeyeah that is some great work :)04:07
clint-I'm not the 1 selling them04:07
mars_if u r using to the windows....................04:07
linux_n00b_eIf I have a 6448.6 MB hard drive, How many gigs is that? Can someone do the conversion for me?04:07
Hericusclint-, oh well thats okay then.04:07
oblibDoes anyone know how to set up vncserver so that is starts a new X session for vnc access?04:07
HericusMy apologies.04:07
Kyrallinux_n00b_e: approx 6.504:07
pr1rlol04:07
Kyralif you use the 1000 MB = 1 GB04:07
whyameyebimberi: I'm specifically wondering about switching from the ATI to the fgrlx drivers. What if the fgrlx drivers, don't work for me? Can I go back?04:07
watnouhatred: you need to define a gateway04:08
DGaugeclint-: I would hope not....I would hope you wouldn't charge such a ridiculous price for icons....I'd rather learn to make my own at that price :o04:08
Kyralit will be different if you use 1024 = 1 GB thing04:08
clint-going steal it though :)04:08
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clint-won't ;)04:08
bimberiwhyameye: as far as i know that's just a matter of changing the setting in /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:08
Hericusgentoo has a great package management system however.04:08
hatred_watnou - thx, i'll go suss it out04:08
linux_n00b_eThanks Kyral. Now if I have one that is 2111MB, how many gigs is that?04:08
clint-Hericus:04:08
clint-want to hear what i hear on Gentoo04:08
hatred_Hericus -: i much prefer gentoo's package management system to debians04:08
pr1r2.1 g04:08
HericusGo ahead clint-.04:09
Hericushatred_, here, here.04:09
clint-I hear, its 1 of the most powerful, linux systems, and that its goes deep for hardware detection.. real deep. but thats what i hear. you know how those stories turn out. sometimes :)04:09
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pr1r1024 mb in a gb04:09
linux_n00b_ethanks prir04:09
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pr1rnp noob04:09
hatred_clint- : i use gentoo on this machine and it's incredibly powerful . versatile04:09
JadussD!w32codecs04:09
linux_n00b_eThanks pr1r..04:09
linux_n00b_elol04:09
pr1rdoes anyone know how to get nvidia drivers to work, i know its all over the forums but nothing seems to be working from there04:09
whyameyebimberi: the link I have for installing on Breezy says to modprobe the drivers. Do you have any experience with these drivers?04:09
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HericusI'm unsure about whether I should get gentoo on a lappy.04:10
bimberiwhyameye: no sry04:10
clint-PC BSD, was really powerful, just how powerful is gentoo, I heard it uses BSD ports :)04:10
dr_unpleasantany word on firefox 1.5 being supported in ubuntu 1.5?04:10
clint-it is.. to me :)04:10
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dr_unpleasantoops i mean ubuntu 5.1004:11
mars_i'm using the ubuntu linux,but the gprs drivers cannot be install.there no drivers for Linux.04:11
FalstiusHericus: keeping my laptop gentoo install running was getting to be a real pain04:12
Falstiusofcourse, I was running the whole thing with ~8604:12
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HericusFalstius, tell me, what was your lappy like?04:12
bimberidr_unpleasant: not much word but there is this - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion04:12
Hericusspecs.04:12
linux_n00b_eI've got a Linux box that looks like it has room for two extra hard drives. I see the extra power clip and cable connector for one. How could I put the third hard drive inside the box?04:12
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FalstiusCentrino with a prism based wireless, synaptic touchpad04:12
pr1rnoob... you need raid04:13
pr1ri think04:13
dr_unpleasantbimberi: thanks Ill try that04:13
clint-want to know whats hillarious,, I installed Mandriva 2006, and it screwed up my network.. the biatch didn't even detect DCHP ;)04:13
Fujitsulinux_n00b_e, you plug it in?04:13
bimberidr_unpleasant: np :)04:13
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HericusI'm going to just run gentoo on my desktop.04:14
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Hericus-sigh-04:14
HericusI'll run ubuntu + MS on my lappy.04:14
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clint-8-)04:14
FalstiusHericus: for hardware support, Gentoo is just fine04:14
clint-<---- mounts FReeSBIE to ram...... 8-)04:14
linux_n00b_eNo what I'm saying is  do you think there could  another cable inside the box for hooking up a thrid drive or would I have to go and buy a differrent cable set in ordeeer to put two extra drives inside my box?04:14
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Falstiusjust done run it with unstable packages :)04:15
Hericus(: I'm still unsure, gentoo is a very unstable distro.04:15
FalstiusUbuntu's ACPI issues seem better now atleast.04:15
HericusI mean, I'm not sure I'll have the time, compiling packages over and over.04:15
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clint-yep04:15
Falstiusyou can do gentoo with binary packages.04:15
logical_markHey guys. I just bought some logitech surround sound speakers and I have no clue how to set them up in linux. My motherboard came with a program for windows that let me select the jack functions...04:15
HericusEitherway..04:16
HericusWell..04:16
HericusWe'll see.04:16
clint-it depends on really what you want it for :)04:16
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HowiWow.  Lots of people...04:16
clint-how about we just ,, tell people do away with all them distro's and we minimize them down to at least 20 :D04:16
logical_markHey did anyone see my last about setting up surround sound speakers? Could use the help.04:17
Falstiusclint-: only power users use more than 6 of them04:17
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Falstiuslogical_mark: I can't help you, but if you find anything out, my rear speakers aren't tweating either.04:17
logical_markFalstius, yeah I will04:18
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clint-well I guess I'm 1 of them04:18
clint-Acronis Disk Director Suite 9.. OS Selector, peopple that are ambition, and don't limit themselves. has nothing to do with being a power user04:18
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HericusI'm not going to be using the lappy for a server or anything.04:19
HericusJust to run a distro on..04:19
HericusSo ubuntu would be a better bet.04:19
clint-exactly. why would ya ;)04:19
misfit_toysoon we will be back to OS on a ROM and you just pop in the distro you want, Atari 800 all over again ;)04:19
clint-Hericus: , http://www.scitechsoft.com/04:19
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RoyceI am trying to mount a windows share, i didn't have /home/username/mnt, so I made a mnt dir, that didnt have the effect I thought it would04:19
clint-take my name out of the "we" :)04:19
bimberiubotu tell Royce about mountwindows04:20
mustard5logical_mark, you using alsamixer?04:20
FalstiusI run a RHEL3 clone on my laptop since that's what I'm targeting work apps for.04:20
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clint-whats limits.. heh04:20
Falstiusbut it works well (except it won't turn off)04:20
Hericusclint-, do you have aim, or yahoo or something?04:20
tonyyarussoWhy doesn't changing my "preferred applications" change the behavior of the mail icon in the toolbar?  (In Breezy; it's still pointing to evolution.)04:20
clint-hee04:20
clint-kopete,, :)04:21
clint-I don't talk instant messaging much, I run a room on Filetopia..04:21
clint-I could create Ubuntu like snap.. but I won't.. :)04:21
mustard5tonyyarusso, I think you would need to manually edit the icon04:21
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mustard5tonyyarusso, changing the preferred app would only change the default that it chooses when you hit a mail link of some kind in another app04:22
clint-oops.. too late..already done04:22
clint-;)04:22
C_J_ProIn what folder is the path usually stored?04:22
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C_J_Proerm04:22
C_J_Profile04:22
Murrlinnot sure, but I'll ask here. did I miss anything when installing Windowmaker? the usual (?) wm app menu is missing04:22
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Murrlinsubmenu04:22
tonyyarussomustard5: I see.04:22
clint-Hericus: , what operating system are you on now.. then I show you communication peer to peer, client,, security..  evolution04:22
watnou*Yawn*04:22
clint-irc, opera, etc.. irc clients. have nothing on this04:23
mustard5tonyyarusso, what mail app do you want as default?04:23
HericusMicrosoft(TM) Windows(TM) XP Professional.04:23
tonyyarussomustard5: That would be really slick if it could change the icon too; maybe an idea for future releases.04:23
tonyyarussomustard5: Thunderbird.04:23
clint-k .. 1 sec.. I'll private msg u04:23
watnoug@@P04:23
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mustard5tonyyarusso, I recall there being some HOW to's in the forum on Thunderbird...let me check04:23
bimberiC_J_Pro: globally in /etc/profile with user additions in ~/.bash_profile04:23
logical_markmustard5, no I don't know what or where04:23
clint-Hericus:04:23
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clint-are you on windows now?04:23
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Hericusclint-, yes.04:24
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clint-k04:24
TerrapinOrangeHey folks.  I'm fairly new to ubuntu.  I just tried to apt-get dist-upgrade from hoary to breezy and hosed my libc6 somehow.  Would someone mind helping me clean things up, if that's even possible?  I can run some commands, but ls and tar at very least keep crapping out on me.04:24
clint-dl this.. http://www.filetopia.org04:24
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phiqtionhow can i get mp3 on ubuntu?04:24
tonyyarussomustard5: Don't bother; I was still able to pull the command from pref. apps.04:24
mushroombluehi. how ugly is an upgrade from Warty to Breezy?04:24
clint-I use it, to support all different types of linux systems. help users aroudn the world,, provide security.. etc.. etc :)04:24
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clint-around*..04:24
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Fujitsumushroomblue, I don't know. There has been a successful upgrade from Hoary, but I know not about Warty.04:25
TokenBadin xchat is there a way to block colors in channel text?04:25
logical_markmustard5: I would love a jump start on getting them working.04:25
clint-look for 3.04 d04:25
Madpilotmushroomblue: you'll probably want to do that in two stages, warty - hoary, then hoary - breezy04:25
mushroombluehrm. good idea.04:25
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mustard5logical_mark, have you installed alsamixer?04:25
logical_markyes04:26
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TerrapinOrangeThe error I'm getting is:  /lib/libpthread.so.0: symbol __libc_stack_end, version GLIBC_PRIVATE not defined in file ld-linux.so.2 with link time reference04:26
TerrapinOrangeWhen I try to run ls or tar.04:26
logical_markmustard5: yes it is installed04:26
mushroombluehrm.04:26
mustard5tonyyarusso, here is an old 5.04 how to on getting firefox icons and thunderbird icons... http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34354&highlight=thunderbird+mozilla04:26
mushroomblueI'm gonna take the risk.04:26
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cwesterburghow do I set the password so that I can run SU?04:26
mushroomblueif it breaks, I just run over and install breezy from scratch.04:26
mushroombluecwesterburg: sudo passwd root04:26
mustard5logical_mark, oh ok...I don't know what to do from there..but I know that can control the surround sound :)04:26
cwesterburgthanks mush04:26
clint-Hericus:  you still here?04:26
tonyyarussomustard5: Thanks.04:27
HericusYeah, just a sec.04:27
clint-k04:27
clint-you'll like it, I swear04:27
logical_markmustard5: but I cannot control the jacks and how the audio is sent there... thanks though04:27
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proxosiwhere does flash for ff locate in synatpic packagage manager?04:27
clint-m8, I was telling people at my school. how i could just build them a custom Windos Vista04:27
mushroombluehrm.04:27
Hericushah04:27
clint-yeah lol04:28
mushroomblueis apt-get dist-upgrade the only way to upgrade every package?04:28
clint-not that hard lmfao04:28
mushroombluecos it's only updating 31 of them.04:28
HericusDone04:28
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Fujitsumushroom, are you sure!!??04:28
TokenBadin xchat is there a way to block colors in channel text?04:28
clint-it has to do with some service upgrades, modifiation, drivers.. support.. themes appearance,, enhanced shell..04:28
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clint-and Windows favorite part, making it so hard for you to burn dvds :D04:28
mushroomblueFujitsu: well, according to apt, that's all that's being upgraded.04:28
mushroombluewhich confuses the hell out of me.04:28
Madpilot!tell mushroomblue about upgrade04:28
C_J_Prois it normal for a $PATH to be about 2+ pages in length04:28
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C_J_Pro?04:28
clint-which were all against right ;)04:28
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Hericusheh04:28
Hericusya04:28
jotasome body speak spanish???04:29
mustard5!es04:29
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:29
Dex-Freudiijota: I do but it's not nettiquette04:29
thoreauputicmushroomblue: you changed your sources.list to breezy ?04:29
clint-your probably going use Hericus as your name or nick right?04:29
mushroombluethoreauputic: yah.04:29
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Hericusyup04:29
clint-Zoo is the nick I go by, clint is my real name04:29
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jotathank04:30
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thoreauputicmushroomblue: you ran  sudo apt-get update afterwards?04:30
markywoot woot ubuntu fecking rocks04:30
bimberijota: try #ubuntu-es04:30
clint-good job, I see you figure things out quick04:30
Fujitsumarky, you said it!04:30
jotaok04:30
markyjust got it04:30
mushroombluethoreauputic: yep.04:30
mushroombluehrm.04:30
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FujitsuLiking it, marky?04:30
mushroombluehow do you get it to install all dependencies?04:30
markydam  , the best flavour of linux ever04:30
mushroomblueheh. I still like gentoo better, but yay for remote administration.04:31
thoreauputicmushroomblue:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  should pull in your new breezy - if not, I'm puzzled too04:31
whyameyeneeding help with fgrlx drivers from ATI....04:31
mushroombluethoreauputic: no. I need other stuff.04:31
mushroomblueack. hold on.04:31
markygot it on mt dell d60004:31
markymy*04:31
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jack_Hello?04:31
markyhello jack04:31
whyameyemarky: you are running a D600? I have one and am trying to get Breezy running on it. Can you help? Wondering about ACPI and video drivers...04:32
jack_Phew...04:32
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jack_i was worried i was all alone on this04:32
jack_anyone have experience with drivers for wireless cards?04:32
markyi downloaded ubuntu last night , burnt it tis morning put in in the drive and started04:32
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markyeverything worked04:32
whyameyejack-: what is specifically the problem?04:33
markywireless etc04:33
markyubuntu is the tits04:33
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whyameyemarky: have you tried suspend and hibernate? What is battery consumption like?04:33
jack_i am following the instructions using the ndiswrapper on the wiki04:33
deltronanyone here tri-boot with xp/xp pro x64/ubuntu?04:33
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markynot unplugged it yet04:33
markyi'm duel boot with xp04:33
vegosdoes anyone no how to fix a clock that goes 2 times faster than it should be?04:33
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Falstiusdeltron, I don't have xp x64 :(04:33
deltronhah04:33
jack_but i do not have the .inf files it is talking about, anywhere on the drivers CD that came with the card04:34
deltronoh, it's gonna be ubuntu 64 :)04:34
Madpilotmarky: if you want to help out, you could fill in a Laptop report at the Ubuntu wiki - I'll dig the URL up, if you're interested04:34
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markyyeah sure04:34
jack_and searching online for them just comes up with EXEs that install the stuff for windows04:34
markygimmie the url04:34
clint-now he can tell ya ;)04:34
jack_so i am a little confused overall04:34
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whyameyejack-: what is the make and model of the card?04:34
markywhat are you tryi ng to install jack?04:34
mustard5vegos, I'm just searching forums for something I have read about that04:34
vegosthanks04:34
Madpilotmarky: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTesting04:35
markyok i do it now brb04:35
whyameyemarky: if you choose to explore ACPI, I'll bet you will have to disable the parallel port and/or the legacy USB from the BIOS. This was the case for me on the D600.04:35
jack_Well i installed the ndiswrapper program that is supposed to help me get the .inf drivers working04:36
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marky<~d600, 1.6mhz, wireless , , 1gigram, 30gig hd, no bluetooth04:36
Falstiusjack_: what video card is it?04:36
jack_but i am basically blindly following the wiki's guide, not knowing anything about what it is actually doing04:36
jack_it's a wireless lan card04:36
whyameyemarky: also check and see if your 3d OpenGL screensavers don't make the computer crash. I personally think you should *not* post on LapTop testing until you have tested more thoroughly. I have a D600 too and it only *appears* to work 100%. Dig deeper...04:36
Falstiusjack_: er what wlan card?  (that was a little typo :))04:36
jack_i have the information on it, using the lspci command04:36
markyok04:36
jack_oh04:36
jack_heh04:36
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markygive me the shovel  , were am i digging?04:37
bob832is there a command that tells you what directory you are in?04:37
markyi'm on the d600 now04:37
jack_"broadcom corporatonjn BCM4306"04:37
jack_er corporation04:37
_jasonbob2_, pwd04:37
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hatred_bob832 -: pwd04:37
_jasongrrr04:37
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Madpilotmarky: to add your machine to that testing page, you mean?04:37
mustard5vegos, check this thread out http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=53094&highlight=clock+double+speed04:37
whyameyejack_: I just installed this card on my Dell! Gimme a minute and I'll set you up...04:37
_jasonbob2_, sorry, name-completion error04:37
bob832thanks _jason and hatred04:37
jack_oh great thanks!!04:37
Falstiusthe older broadcom used the prism chipset, you should try the hermes driver ...04:37
jack_i feel so helpless without internet on a computer, it's been so long04:38
Falstius(easier than ndiswrapper)04:38
markywhat should i test? it looks lick open gl is all good04:38
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markyhad no crashes, no probs at all04:38
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markyi love ubuntu04:38
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MurrlinI second this04:38
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jack_haven't you only been running it for less than a day though?04:38
dragoonmm ubuntu04:38
whyameyemarky: you don't know if ACPI works. And...leave an OpenGL ScreenSaver running for a few hours...04:39
markyfew hours?04:39
Madpilotmarky: you've got a wiki account? (also, if you're asking someone in particular about something, please start the line with their nick! thanks)04:39
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jack_Madpilot: You rule!04:39
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ULffuntuMadpilot: is there a way of automating that starting a line with someones nick?04:40
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markymad surely if your d600 dies after "a few hours" on screen saver then the radeon is o hot04:40
whyameyejack-: go to filesearching.com and do a search for bcmwl5a.inf. This is the file you want to modprobe using ndiswrapper....04:40
init_budanyone know of an easy to use or GUI ftp server app?04:40
HericusI love gnome.04:40
markylemme plug a usb keyboard in04:40
HericusI want to try xfce though.04:40
markyi'm normally a pc man04:40
misfit_toyinit_bud, gftp04:40
jack_whyameye: Thanks! i'll go do that04:40
whyameyemarky: it runs fine in XP. It's an openGL ATI driver issue. You can find it documented on the web...04:40
MadpilotULffuntu: tab-completion - type the first four letters or so of someone's nick then hit the TAB key04:41
bushitoxfce?? whats xfce??04:41
init_budmisfit_toy, can i just apt-get it?04:41
misfit_toyinit_bud, oops that's a client not a server04:41
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jack_marky: did you just get sick of windows trying to rape it's self?04:41
init_budgrrr.04:41
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ULffuntuMadpilot, cool04:41
Falstiusxfce is slimed down windows manager similar to gnome04:41
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ULffuntuexcept mine is a comma04:41
markyi've seen the susend ram feature prob, but i've had no probs04:41
jmackwhats the bash command to create a file?04:41
misfit_toyFalstius, xfce is similar to gnome like a cat is to a dog! lol04:41
nmsajmack: touch filename04:42
ULffuntuMadpilot: fixed it04:42
jmacknmsa: thank you04:42
whyameyemarky: you have tried ACPI? I thought you said you haven't unplugged it...04:42
ULffuntuthx04:42
markyyay, plug in a usb keyboard(packard bell) and it works straight away04:42
bushitolol misfit_toy xD04:42
misfit_toyhowdy bushito04:42
bushitois there any recommended page for putting your gnome "Pretty"04:43
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markyearlier i went out with it connected to my garmin gps and it was cool  , whats you problem with acpi?04:43
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bushitomisfit_toy, =p04:43
misfit_toybushito, http://gnome-look.org04:43
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markygot to roll a bifta be back in 2 secs04:43
Madpilot!themes04:43
misfit_toybushito, and http://art.gnome.org04:43
Madpilotbleh04:43
Madpilot!tell bushito about themes04:43
Matthewhave you experts ever found a wireless card and / or ethernet card that WOULD NOT work in ubuntu? i've tried like 5 distributions this week. and i'm ready to settle.04:43
mushroombluehttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/549704:44
misfit_toyMadpilot, uboto expired?04:44
mushroombluehow do I fix that?04:44
misfit_toy*ubotu04:44
misfit_toy!tovid04:44
ubotu[tovid]  possibly the greatest video encoder, with a GUI, located at http://tovid.sourceforge.net04:44
misfit_toynope, he's still alive04:44
Madpilotmisfit_toy: no, but that themes factoid is too long for ubotu to display in-channel04:44
dragoontry apt-get -f install04:44
whyameyemarky: it won't come out of hibernate consistently....unless I disable the parallel port and legacy USB from the BIOS. This is documented for the D610 and apparently it is the case for my D600, at least. Look, if you want to post on Laptop Testing, go ahead. I would just suggest thorough testing is the most responsible thing to do first.04:44
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jack_whyameye: okay, i've got the file and i can burn it across to mr.ubuntu, what next?04:44
misfit_toyMadpilot, lol, now that's funny04:44
hatred_anyone know where i can get apt sources for ubuntu ????04:44
thoreauputic!sources04:45
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic04:45
hatred_thx thoreauputic :)04:45
markyapparently theres a kernel patch to fix that04:45
thoreauputichatred_: no worries :)04:45
mustard5Matthew, there is a list of cards and the problems associated with them here..it might be relevant https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards04:45
Matthewis there a way to uninstall gnome after installation?04:45
ph3rAfter I logon Ubuntu, Gnome logon runs fine, but after that a error message say "|" pops up with an okay option only. After that terminal loads, but no GUI, what do I do? Or does anyone know?04:46
robotgeekMatthew: if you had chosen server install, it would not have installed everything04:46
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markyubuntu is such an approachable flavour of linux  , i really really thank the guys who made it04:46
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Matthewrobot. i have done 2 server installs and one full04:46
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Matthewrobot, mustard- i have not been able to get the onboard ethernet to work04:46
whyameyejack-: go to http://www.antoniocheca.com/wp/content-text/ubuntu-inspiron6000.html and try these directions for the wireless. Let me know.04:47
markyit flys on my d600 (dell) laptop04:47
Matthewso, no luck loading x, etc04:47
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bushitoare they any games for ubuntu?? lol xD i want games!! got ried of only work!! =304:47
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markyput it this way i used to hate this laptop till i found ubuntu04:47
ph3rbushito get Cedega04:47
jack_Whyameye: okay much thanks! i'm AFK for the next moments...04:47
robotgeekMatthew: were you the same guy with the eepro stuff?04:47
mustard5marky, :)04:47
ph3rerrr, could someone help me quick?04:47
bushitoCedega = meanie xP04:47
markyi want to install skype though and am strugling04:47
thoreauputic!skype04:48
ubotuskype is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl04:48
robotgeekthoreauputic: too fast for me :)04:48
Matthewrobot no eepro04:48
Falstiusbushito: nethack, the only game you'll ever need :)04:48
thoreauputicrobotgeek: heh :)04:48
markywicked brb  i'll have a llok04:48
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bushitoFalstius, lol xD riighttt..... =P04:48
mustard5ph3r, you looked over your logs for any errors?04:48
robotgeekMatthew: yeah, then i have no clue. that's why i asked. i tht i had seen this one before :)04:48
ph3rI have quite a few.04:48
Matthewrobot. i have tried ubuntu, dsl, gentoo, and most recently vector. each supported a different subset of my hardware.04:48
ph3rmustard504:48
mustard5ph3r, you used the pastebin before?04:49
russHey, I'm trying to share a directory on my Ubuntu comp. over the network with my windows comp. I can see the computer, but it asks for a username/pass to access it (which I don't want).04:49
FalstiusMatthew: have you tried knoppix?04:49
russThis works the other way around - I can access windows shared directories from ubuntu04:49
mustard5ph3r, are you in terminal now?04:49
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ph3rYes, I am.04:49
bushitoKnoppix!!! xP!!!04:49
mustard5ph3r, ah ok..pastebin might be difficult then :)04:49
mushroomblueruss: edit /etc/samba/smb.conf and make it not care about passwords04:49
mustard5ph3r, try joining #flood04:49
ph3rmustard5, i've used pastebin before, can you score me a link?04:49
mushroomblueor guest ok04:49
Madpilot!pastebin04:50
ubotu[pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com04:50
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FalstiusMatthew: I know its ugly, but it will give you a good idea if your hardware is supportable :)04:50
some_dudewhere is smbmount ?04:50
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sioraiwhat's the syntax for dpkg ?04:50
russsome_dude - I had to apt-get install smbmount04:50
mustard5siorai, you can type man dpkg for the manual04:51
sioraithanks04:51
russmushroomblue - shouldn't I be able to log in with my username/pass on my Linux box to access the shares froom windows? Because I can't.04:51
some_duderuss i've tryed that and not nothing04:51
russsudo?04:51
some_dudecan't find package04:51
russsome_dude - You might have to add some repositories.04:52
some_dudeah04:52
russI'm new at this too, so I don't know really04:52
mushroomblueruss: no. samba is retarded. as superuser (root/sudo), you have to run "smbpasswd -a <user>"04:52
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mushroomblueruss: then it'll work.04:52
Matthewfastius- i haven't done knoppix yet. so far, all of the hardware except the wireless has come up04:52
Madpilotsiorai: for installing a .deb, do "sudo dpkg -i foo.deb"04:52
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Matthewand i've seen other people posting who had success with this wireless..04:52
Matthewndiswrapper stuff04:52
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mustard5Matthew, you tried the ndiswrapper how to?04:52
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robotgeekMatthew: you also have a wireless problem?04:52
siorai*nods*04:53
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sioraithat's all I was looking for, but I had just foudn in the in the manual04:53
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robotgeekMadpilot: my wireless is all GPL, ty :)04:53
DJ_Necrogamihow do i check to see what process is running on port 8004:53
Matthewmustard- i've tried it all. if ndiswrapper seems to work, then wireless config doesnt.04:53
russYay - thanks, mushroomblue. That worked.04:53
mushroombluesure.04:53
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mushroombluenow, someone help me with my problem.04:54
mushroombluehttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/549704:54
Matthewmy question - i like the nice ubuntu types.04:54
Madpilotrobotgeek: one of those DLink wrg45s or whatever they are?04:54
mushroombluehow do I get that to stop?04:54
Matthewi'm wondering whether i should come back to the brown.04:54
Matthewor try gentoo again.04:54
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mushroomblueMatthew: I still use gentoo.04:54
mustard5Matthew, whatever works is best :)04:54
mushroomblueMatthew: it makes me less angry.04:54
robotgeekMadpilot: no, i use a Ralink rt2500 chipset04:54
Sammy76is there any problems with sata and ubuntu?04:54
mushroomblueSammy76: not really.04:54
some_dudei need to copy my xorg.conf and install debian04:54
mushroomblueSammy76: if your chipset is supported, then no.04:54
DJ_Necrogaminvm04:54
pr1ranyone know how to get my other monitor working... ive read the wiki file on the nvidia driver and it doesnt seem to be working04:54
MadpilotSammy76: I've got a SATA HD as my only HD, it runs just fine04:54
Sammy76i can't get it to intstall04:55
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Sammy76it hangs at the very first screen when I boot the cd04:55
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markypoop04:55
Siph0nhey, neone ever have a problem that when u try and run firefox it just opens and closes?04:56
Dex-Freudiiis there a ubuntu for Palm?04:56
markycan't get skype installed04:56
markyskype:04:56
marky Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>=3:3.3.3.2) but it is not installable04:56
mustard5marky, how are you trying to do it?04:56
mushroombluewhy do dependencies say that they're not going to be installed?04:56
markyhmm04:56
mushroombluethat's really stupid.04:56
mustard5marky, there is an easier way04:56
mustard5!skype04:56
uboturumour has it, skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl04:56
mustard5marky, download the .deb04:56
markyi went04:56
ULffuntuSiph0n: Have you tried deleting your .mozilla to start over04:56
markythe rumour is right04:56
markyi tried that aswell04:56
Siph0nULffuntu, no havent tryed.... one sec :)04:56
Dex-Freudiimushroomblue, maybe because you have installed another version of what you need to install04:56
mushroomblueDex-Freudii: possible. but what do I do to fix that?04:57
Matthewok. well. i'm going to leave you folx alone tonight. who knows, maybe i'll study for my final exam tomorro wmorning04:57
mustard5marky, are you installing the .deb from the skype website?04:57
Dex-Freudiimushroomblue, uninstall those packages04:57
mushroomblueoh god.04:57
mushroombluemmkay.04:57
Dex-Freudiimushroomblue, it may cause some problems04:57
Dex-Freudiibe careful04:57
Sammy76anyone know why it would hang at the first screen when tryingt to install?04:57
mushroomblueboy howdy04:57
markyskype .balh .balh.deb  , archive not supported04:57
Siph0nULffuntu, k, lol guess deleting .mozilla gets rid of all my bookmarks? :) it worked tho :)04:57
markymustard5 yes i was04:57
Dex-Freudiiis there ubuntu for PocketPC?04:57
mustard5marky, thats the wrong one04:58
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pr1ranyone know how to get my other monitor working... i already checked the wiki... it didnt give a good description... it didnt work... nvidia drivers... someone04:58
pr1rplease04:58
Dex-Freudiimushroomblue, what do you want to install?04:58
markythats why it don't work then04:58
opnsrcI have Smeg 0.7.5 and for some reason when i use it to edit my menus sometimes the changes don't take place04:58
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mushroomblueuh. ubuntu-desktop04:58
mustard5marky yep :)04:58
marky;)04:58
mushroomblueDex-Freudii: that's what's giving me the problem.04:58
pr1rbefore i put my foot thru the monitor04:58
opnsrceven when I re start the computer, the changes don't take place. Sometimes they would and sometimes the don't04:58
jack_whyameye: alright, i followed those stepslisted there04:58
mustard5marky, go the the second link that ubotu showed above04:58
pr1rdamn rangers already pissed me off04:58
opnsrchow do I fix it, are there any other menu editors04:58
pr1rlosing in ot... stupid bs04:58
jack_whyameye: but i get a llist of errors with ndiswrapper -L rather than a list of good things saying it's working!04:58
markyskype or no skype it still rocks04:58
Dex-Freudiimushroomblue, did you try apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?04:58
markyok mustard504:58
mushroomblueDex-Freudii: yep, and got http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/549704:59
whyameyejack-: isn't it lower-case l? In any case, what are the errors?04:59
jack_yeah it is lower case04:59
jack_it lists the installed drivers04:59
mustard5marky, then click on the 'breezy extras' link and look for skype04:59
jack_which include my previous attempts without the correct file04:59
markythanks04:59
jack_but they are all listed as "invalit driver!"05:00
jack_er invalid*05:00
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opnsrcI know the file is in /home/opnsrc/.config/menus05:00
mustard5marky, that one will work..but you should know that skype takes forever to load ...up to 20 seconds05:00
Dex-Freudiimushroomblue, try apt-get upgrade ubuntu-desktop05:00
whyameyejack-: so you have to uninstall the previous attempts. rmmod ndiswrapper.05:00
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Aron_FigaroHey guys - you HAVE to hear this one. My brother was playing around with a LiveCD and managed to **** Mount a DRIVE on top of his Root directory!! ****05:00
jack_"rmmod ndiswrapper" is the command to remove erors?05:00
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markyk05:00
jack_er erroneous drivers?05:01
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Aron_FigaroIt was freaking hilarious, he's like "Wtf this thing is going all to shit..." "where'd you mount that hda5?" "oops"05:01
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bushito.........05:01
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markywill it auto install?05:01
whyameyejack-: I hope so. :-) Haven't actually been here before....05:01
markyhow hard is it?05:02
marky<~~noob05:02
opnsrcDoes anyone know of another menu editor for Gnome?05:02
opnsrcother than Smeg?05:02
jack_whyameye: err...i entered that command, but there was no message05:02
mustard5marky, it is installed using the dpkg command05:02
markyok05:02
jack_whyameye: and when i check the -l list all three remain05:02
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whyameyejack-: try again...05:02
mustard5marky, sudo dpkg -i fullpackagename.deb05:02
markythanks i'll try05:03
jack_whyameye: ok, the repeated command gives me "module ndiswrapper does not exist"05:03
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jack_so i guess it worked?05:03
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whyameyejack-: I'm an idiot. You want to type <ndiswrapper -e [name of erroneous file] >05:03
jack_Eeek05:03
jack_okays05:03
opnsrc!smeg05:04
ubotuAlacarte Menu Editor is an easy-to-use menu editor for GNOME. Older versions were called smeg. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/alacarte/05:04
xfreewhy some application look like odd with some themes?05:04
jack_whyameye: ok, i am left with only the third (correct?) file, but it still is listed as an invalid driver05:04
opnsrcThere we go, thanks05:05
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bushitowhere can i get a plugin to see video files over internet?05:05
whyameyejack-: this is weird. Didn't you say it was a BCM430605:06
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clint-hm05:06
jack_yeah05:07
mustard5bushito you got w32codecs already?05:07
Hericusclint-, is it me or is that guy somewhat .. lost.05:07
whyameyejack-: I would try removing the 3rd file, then reinstalling it with ndiswrapper -i <filename>...Only a guess...05:07
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bushitomustard5, eehhh apt-get doesnt find em05:07
jack_whyameye: actually i just did that...05:07
markymustard5  i'll come back tommorow and try and install it all, its 4:22am here in england05:08
markythanks for you help05:08
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mustard5k bushito ask for alink when you come in05:08
markyand you ubunto05:08
clint-yep05:08
mustard5marky, np05:08
bushitomustard5, ??' what??05:09
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synackuatordoes anyone know of a wma to mp3 convertor?05:09
mustard5bushito, when you come back tomorrow ask for a link to w32codecs05:09
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bushitoKey05:09
whyameyejack-: I'm at a loss. Is this a physical card you can unplug and replug in?05:09
markyI'm still over the moon with ubuntu   , its friendly looking  , an easy gap from windows i think  ,05:09
jack_yeah it is05:09
markygreat ralxing gui05:09
markyrelaxing*05:09
clint-yep05:10
brunnolol05:10
clint-you should see Xandros, and PC BSD :)05:10
whyameyejack-: I guess you could try unplugging it, replugging it in, then seeing what ndiswrapper -l gives you...05:10
tonyyarussoWhat do I have to do to make cp not omit directories?05:10
jack_hmmmm05:10
jack_okay05:10
markythree cheers the the "ubutu chaps"05:10
markyi've done xandros05:10
Sammy76any able to help me get it to install?05:10
clint-I added the debian source list, etc.. to my /etc/apt/sources etc.. and it gave me that much more power :)05:10
markythis kicks its ass05:10
thoreauputicsynackuator: mencoder can probably do that05:10
clint-I even made it into a fluxbox05:11
clint-You into that yet?05:11
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thoreauputicclint-: adding debian sources is fraught with danger - be careful05:11
markyif your here the creators of ubunu , thanks for the effort.it was worth it :) :)05:11
HericusI don't really like the fluxbox.05:11
HericusIt's fast though.05:11
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markynope don't knoe fluxbox05:12
jack_egads though, is there a box i can uncheck that turns off the ugly on gnome?05:12
clint-I know what I"m doing :)05:12
jack_bark brown is not exactly my favorite color...05:12
jack_:P05:12
markyright click on the desktop?05:12
thoreauputicjack-: so change your themes05:12
markysame as normal05:12
tonyyarussoThe man page even says "copies files and directories", but if I do something like "cp * /target", to include all of the directories in the current directory in the copy, I get a message that cp is omitting each of them.05:12
clint-jack05:13
jack_yeah yeah... i gots it05:13
clint-do you want to install the kde desktop as well?05:13
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jack_er...05:13
jack_i will once i get the intertrons working05:13
jack_KDE is too tempting05:13
whyameyejack-: I take it that didn't work. I thought perhaps the card had gotten "confused" when you tried the wrong drivers. Unplugging and replugging might reset it...05:13
markykde crashes more than gnome05:13
thoreauputictonyyarusso: you need recursive - cp -r05:13
tonyyarussojack_: Themes, Desktop Background, Configure Login.05:13
clint-->    when you do, just do... :~# sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop05:13
jack_KDE makes me want to play with all the millions of settings rather than actually make a working comuter05:13
tonyyarussothoreauputic: Ah.  Thanks.05:13
markylol jack05:14
clint-you choose what to do :)05:14
thoreauputictonyyarusso:  man cp ;-)05:14
markygot to roll another bifta brb   , 30 secs05:14
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jack_bifta?05:14
jack_hah05:14
clint-gnome is just easier on resources, :)05:14
markyhand rolled smoke05:14
tonyyarussothoreauputic: I did that, but didn't really understand what the recursive part meant.05:14
markyrizla baccy etc05:15
jack_haha rizlas..05:15
jack_i miss england05:15
thoreauputictonyyarusso: yes, reading man pages is not always easy , I agree :)05:15
markyyou not missin mnuch05:15
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markyemgland is cold at the mo05:15
dragoonaus is semi warm05:15
thoreauputictonyyarusso:  cp -a is also useful - it keeps permissions and mirrors everything including dot files05:15
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markyabout 1degree c herew05:16
markyman... i should be in bed05:16
tonyyarussothoreauputic: Speaking of dot files, how can I include those in find and locate?05:16
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thoreauputictonyyarusso: that I don't know, sorry05:17
misfit_toy27F here in TX05:17
tonyyarussothoreauputic: Oh well.  Thanks though for the other bit.05:17
markyubuntu even does mind if you plug a usb keyboard in... even a packard bell....(boooo hissss) lol05:17
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markygod bless the dudes who sweated over this code05:18
stranGreetings05:18
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stranis there a good gui sftp client similar to filezilla for linux????05:19
strananyone?05:19
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thoreauputicstran:  gftp does sftp05:19
markystatue*05:19
thoreauputicso does nautilus actually05:19
whyameyejack-: good luck, I guess.05:19
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jack_okays05:19
whyameyestran: try gFTP05:19
jack_thanks05:19
Badm4n!question : i have already set my iptables rule using network.sh ( created by my self ) but everytime server restart... iptables always back to default even i type iptables-save before restart :( any1 have solution ?05:19
ubotuBadm4n: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about05:19
seth_kthoreauputic, we're in #kubuntu :P I would just suggest using the sftp:/ kioslave, it works wonders05:19
markysee you all tommorow05:20
thoreauputicstran: "connect to server" with ssh:// works05:20
markynice meeting you aal05:20
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Madpilotstran: there's gFTP, but frankly it's cr*p - the Filezilla folks need to hurry up with that Linux port they talked about a year or so ago...05:20
markywinks from england05:20
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markygood night all05:20
jack_bye05:20
thoreauputicseth_k: erm, this is #ubuntu05:20
bushitohow can i modify my GDM look?05:20
seth_kthoreauputic, I'm silly, we're not in #kubuntu, I'm in the wrong tab05:20
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jack_Yeah, i loves me some filezilla05:20
seth_k:)05:20
thoreauputicseth_k: hahah05:20
thoreauputic:)05:20
stranyeah, filezilla is awesome... i'm frankly amazed that the one thing i miss from windows is an ftp/sftp client!05:20
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Madpilotstran: me too, actually - but Nautilus does basic FTP/sFTP very well05:21
thoreauputicstran: there actually is a linux filezilla - but not in the repos05:21
theCorestran, gftp is a very good ftp client05:21
misfit_toyncftp is better05:21
Madpilotthoreauputic: you sure? I was at the Filezilla project page a month or so ago, couldn't find any mention of a Linux port...05:22
navaronehostname 10.0.0.1305:22
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stranhmmm05:23
thoreauputicMadpilot:  http://filezilla-project.org/nightly.php05:23
stranone vote for gftp.... one against?05:23
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misfit_toygftp for gui, ncftp for cli05:23
thoreauputiclftp !05:23
thoreauputichah05:23
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levandernautilus for gui05:23
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stranyeah, I'd like a gui client that does a good job with checking file diferences, etc,05:24
jhealeyhello05:24
Madpilotthoreauputic: cool, bookmarked!05:24
thoreauputicMadpilot: :)05:24
MasterTsunamiis gftp like flashfxp :|05:24
levanderstran: i'm sitting here messing with meld because i was told it was good, but can't figure out how to view revisions in an svk repository with it05:24
jhealeyhello all05:25
stranmeld?05:25
jhealeyeveryone OK today05:25
misfit_toyspock?05:25
jhealeywe are in the middle of an ice storm here05:25
stran....svk? you mean svn?05:25
levanderstran: it's a gnome graphical diff tool05:25
levanderstran: no, am using svk for this (svk is like a way to locally have a repository, but be able to merge it later with an svn repostitory)05:26
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jack_jhealey: where's here?05:26
jhealeyTexas05:26
Hoxzersomebody here has installed nxclient to ubuntu?05:26
misfit_toyjhealey, I'm in austin, we're getting it too05:27
jhealeyi'm near dallas05:27
Hoxzer.deb is out but I don't know the start command or it isn't working propelly05:27
jhealeyyeah, it's bad05:27
stranoh yeah? that sounds cool05:27
jack_poor texas05:27
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MasterTsunamiim in austin too! :O05:27
jack_Austin Tea party!05:27
MasterTsunamimy car is covered by a half inch of ice :|05:27
jhealeytook me almost 2 hours to get home, usually take 40 minutes05:27
misfit_toyhola MasterTsunami05:27
misfit_toy:)05:27
MasterTsunamii rolled down the window and there was an ice window :|05:27
MasterTsunami:)05:27
jack_hahaha05:27
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jack_that's awful05:27
MasterTsunamiits crazy05:27
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jhealeyi'm working tomorrow, we'll see how that commute goes05:28
Dr_Willisits 50 Deg F - here .. IN this room. :P05:28
strani need to check both those tools... I usually just create a rep in svn or add to an existing trunk... works out well, especially if I wanna keep track of it with a single trac server05:28
MasterTsunami;005:28
jhealeyi'll say this though, there are a lot of bad drivers in these parts05:28
jhealeydon't know to slow down for the ice05:28
fishnogeek i'm in houston....not snowing here yet05:28
jhealey50?  Doctor? where are you, in a meat locker?05:28
misfit_toyjhealey, texans drive like drunken frogs on ice05:28
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fishnogeekit's still in the 40s here....seriously, 27F near dallas?05:28
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jhealeyfrunken dogs on rice, right05:29
misfit_toyjhealey, look out for the idiots in the morning, it will be bad05:29
jhealeyit was 24f on my ride home around 6pm05:29
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MasterTsunamijunk that, i'm not going to work :/05:29
jhealeymisfit, are you from somewhere else?05:29
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jhealeyi'm from boston05:29
misfit_toy27F here, jhealey born texan05:29
jhealeyorignally05:29
robotgeekbrrr05:29
Dr_Willisjhealey,  in the basement - the doggie door is (was) open. :P and its like 12F outside...05:29
jack_Dr Willis, try over clocking, maybe you can generate some more heat for your room?05:29
Dr_Willisgot the space heaters on now. :P05:30
fishnogeekouch....call in sick tomorrow, it's not worth risking the roads with all the texans05:30
jack_oh, well smack the dog around then05:30
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jhealeyyikes doctor willis05:30
jhealeywhere are you at?05:30
robotgeek25 F05:30
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Dr_WillisIndiana.05:30
jack_hahaha05:30
misfit_toyno one realizes how wimpy us texans are with the cold05:30
misfit_toylol05:30
Badm4n!question : i have already set my iptables rule using network.sh ( created by my self ) but everytime server restart... iptables always back to default even i type iptables-save before restart :( any1 have solution ?05:30
ubotuI'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, Badm4n05:30
MasterTsunamii have a massive fire going right now05:30
jhealeytrue, but that wind will get to ya misfit05:30
robotgeekmisfit_toy: hmm, it's bad outside dude05:30
hanasakianyone have any luck w/ ati mobile and xorg in laptops?05:30
jhealeymakes 27 feel like a lot less05:30
misfit_toywhen it hits texans they freak, and can't drive, and can't do anything...it's actually pretty funny05:30
Dr_WillisMy 2 dogs are pomerianians - they can get out the basement sliding window they are so small - i got a ramp for them05:30
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MasterTsunamidude, it was 14 today with the windchill05:31
MasterTsunami:|05:31
fishnogeekok, i have a question about the ati stuff....i just installed breezy on a laptop that runs the ATI X300 Mobility card05:31
TerrapinOrangeHey folks.  I apt-get dist-upgraded and hosed my system.  I'm pretty sure I know how to fix the problem (I found a very similar issue on the debian mailing list), but I can't run a single command on my system other than ldconfig.  I need to get ld to ignore some libs, and --ignore-rpath doesn't seem to be doing the trick.  Can anyone help?05:31
Dr_Willisfishhead,  My laptop wiath a X200Mobility  Works good. even has 3d05:31
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misfit_toyrobotgeek, my whole front yard is frozen, even going out for a cigar requires tricky walking and a huge dallas cowboys fleece lined jacket, lol05:31
Dr_Willisfishhead,  what cpu?05:31
fishnogeekno luck on X Windows....i thought it was the resolution, but then got surfing and started thinking it was the ati fglrx stuff05:32
MadpilotMasterTsunami: that's 14 F? ouch05:32
Chris-Chowdy ... please help me with adding an archive to my /etc/apt/sources.list ...05:32
MasterTsunamiyeah :|05:32
robotgeekmisfit_toy: lucky i live in an apt :)05:32
Dr_WillisTemperature: 3 F  - Hmm the forcast sais the : LOW will be 8 F.05:32
misfit_toyrobotgeek, hopefully on the ground floor05:32
TerrapinOrangeld-linux.so.2 --inhibit-rpath, that is.05:32
Chris-CI added a line saying:   deb http://pkg-boinc.alioth.debian.org ./05:32
Chris-Cnote trailing ./05:33
robotgeekmisfit_toy: i am not doing any walking anyways :)05:33
fishnogeekpentium M 1.86GHz05:33
Chris-Cand synaptic bitched on startup with "Couldn't stat source package list"05:33
jack_hahah05:33
Dr_Willisoops fishnogeek  - I got a a Compaq V2311 - with Turion. for the start I had to set X to use the VESA drivers till i got the ati drivers set up and flgrx installed.05:33
jack_"bitched" is exactly the correct term for computers complaining05:33
misfit_toy"synaptic bitched" I like that05:33
Chris-CI know nothing about sources.list syntax05:33
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Badm4n!question : i have already set my iptables rule using network.sh ( created by my self ) but everytime server restart... iptables always back to default even i type iptables-save before restart :( any1 have solution ? ?05:34
ubotuBadm4n: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about05:34
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rhoffais the any bittorent software i can apt-get and easily use because.. i have a huge file stopped at 96% nedded to restart and now it wont resume with ubuntus torrent software05:34
MadpilotBadm4n: starting your lines with ! confuses the bot05:34
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rhoffasomething like bit tornado, i dont really like azurus05:36
fishnogeekdr_willis:  how painful was the ati installation for you?05:36
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Dr_Willisfishnogeek,  about 2 min. :P05:36
Madpilotrhoffa: isn't bittornado in the repos?05:36
Dr_Willisfishnogeek,  and i was amazed when it worked..05:36
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rhoffai dont know?05:36
rhoffaim not good with linux yet05:36
Dr_Willisfishnogeek,  type !ATI and read the bot url05:37
Badm4nMadpilot: sorry05:37
rhoffai used to use it in windows, how do i access tornado?05:37
navaronerhoffa, are you still using phex at all? How was it?05:37
Badm4nquestion : i have already set my iptables rule using network.sh ( created by my self ) but everytime server restart... iptables always back to default even i type iptables-save before restart :( any1 have solution ? ?05:37
Madpilot!info bittornado05:37
ubotubittornado: (bittorrent client with enhanced curses interface), section net, is optional. Version: 0.3.11-4ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 148 kB, Installed size: 840 kB05:37
rhoffahaha it was good05:37
mcjerryI installed from cd iso a few days ago and then updated source.list and then dist-upgrade.....is still breezy, now 2.6.12-10-38605:37
mcjerry how can I get my MCE remote to work with this?05:37
fishnogeekno way, seriously....2 minutes?05:37
rhoffai used it a lil bit for mitch matched things05:37
MadpilotBadm4n: np05:37
Badm4nany1 can help me ?05:37
navaronerhoffa, glad it is working for ya05:37
fishnogeekvery impressed05:37
fishnogeek!ATI05:37
ubotuati is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1005:37
rhoffaim trying to get some torrent software that will allow me to resume this download i was working on, i need to resume it theres no way im restarting it05:37
mcjerrydoes the default iso cd install have lirc support preconfigured in kernel?05:37
rhoffabut the built in torrent software wont work05:38
Dr_Willisrhoffa,  Hmm... actually it should resume.. but it maybe the peers/clients are busy/slow to respond.05:38
navaroneI dl'ed Opera as a torrent...<s> First torrent file for me...I was well pleased with myself.05:38
Madpilotrhoffa: i've resumed torrents with the Gnome Torrent client before05:38
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Dr_Willisrhoffa,  there are several bittorrent clients out for linux ya could try. check synaptic.05:38
Madpilotnavarone: a 4Mb file as a torrent? why? :)05:39
rhoffaim installing it now05:39
navaroneMadpilot...curiousity05:39
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rhoffai have too but for some reaosn this one doesnt wanna cooperate05:39
Dr_WillisMadpilot,  same reason people rar zip files on the torrent downloads. :P05:39
navaroneI'm getting more comfortable with this irc client...keeps surprising me05:40
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rhoffagod old bittornado worked though05:40
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rhoffathanks05:40
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intelikeynavarone yeah i like bx05:41
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rhoffadoes anyone know the bittorent ports offhand05:41
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rhoffa6886?05:41
rhoffai cant remember the range05:41
misfit_toyrhoffa, 6881-688905:41
navaronemisfit_toy , is this weather unusauly?05:41
rhoffathanks05:41
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misfit_toynavarone, very, we rarely get in the 20's F here05:42
navaroneunusual even05:42
intelikeymisfit_toy austin tx ?05:43
luisitohello people05:43
misfit_toynavarone, probably schools and many offices will be closed tommorrow because our freeways will be iced over05:43
misfit_toyintelikey, yeah05:43
fishnogeekdr_willis, thanks for the links -- i'd seen the second one but not the one in the wiki05:43
robotgeekrhoffa: i run on 699105:43
navaronemisfit_toy , I am in Canada...but no bad weather up here yet this winter05:43
luisitoanyone knows how to customize Usplash?05:44
intelikey!usplash05:44
ubotuusplash is probably for your information, about Usplash : if you use a home-built kernel, required options are initramfs & framebuffer, that's all ... don't take any prerequisites used for bootsplash or patches in consideration05:44
Madpilotnavarone: we exported it all to Texas this winter - one of those NAFTA deals :D05:44
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misfit_toynavarone, my wife has a good friend way up there in Canada somewhere, she says it's cold all the time...now I have to question that! lol05:44
misfit_toyMadpilot, gee thanks!05:45
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Razor-Xmisfit_toy: Why can't I own a Canadian?05:45
intelikeyhmmm so now we know where to send the 110+ F  next summer05:45
Razor-X:)05:45
misfit_toyRazor-X, you can only buy DRUGS from Canada, not Canadians05:45
luisitoforget it, I found the page. Finally05:46
Razor-Xnevermind :P05:46
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misfit_toyso no one knows of a nice app to record streaming video from a webcam? I can't believe there is nothing for linux in that regard.05:46
Madpilotmisfit_toy: yeah, the part of Canada I'm from is supposed to grow the best pot ever - but most people don't mention it in public ;)05:46
tarvidlooking for firefox 1.505:46
jack_hahaha05:46
misfit_toyMadpilot, oops!05:47
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misfit_toy:)05:47
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bimberiubotu tell tarvid about firefox1505:47
cnet2hi, I've installed krfb, but when I try to acess it from a windows pc, using vncviewer it won't work, do I need a special vncviewer?05:47
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Kruzaynis there a good nondestructive partitioning tool i can resize my ntfs file system05:48
tarvidthanks, i searched for firefox 1.5 and came up dry05:48
quackerMadpilot, why should they -- it's a well known fact that you BC interior boys are all a buncha wheelchair weed growers05:49
quacker;-)05:49
intelikeyKruzayn the one that came with win xp maybe ?05:49
Kruzaynahhh really there is one with xp lol, ill take a look thanks05:49
intelikeynp05:49
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Madpilotquacker: I'm a BC coastal boy, actually. A friend does have a plant (just one) in his garden, if that helps. :D05:50
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quackerHeh, 'Greater Vancouver', 'Kelowna', whta's the dif -- yer alla buncha tree-huggin, granola-crunchin, sandal-wearin, NDP-votin, dope-smokin, pinko commie hippie longhair freaks out thar anyhow05:54
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quacker;-)05:55
Madpilotquacker: thank you <bows>05:55
quackerYW05:55
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MadpilotI don't wear sandals, though05:55
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quackerScuse me, I gotta go put some sunburn lotion on my neck now...05:56
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pr1rhey all05:57
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evianhi, does anyone know if Roboform works with wine or crossover office?05:59
evianor what a good replacement is?05:59
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cdubyatonyyarusso, you here?06:00
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pr1rcan anyone help me with my 2nd monitor... havin a hard time installin drivers06:02
Dr_Willispr1r,  what video card?06:03
pr1rgeforce fx 520006:03
pr1ragp06:03
pr1rive read the wiki06:03
pr1rfor some reason it doesnt work06:03
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ArcliteMyself and three friends have gotten the live CD to run fine. We all love it.06:06
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fishnogeekdr_willis, so this should reveal my newbie status:  how would I switch to the VESA drivers until i get this ATI thing sorted?06:06
ArcliteHowever, a fourth friend claims the live CD broke her Windows install, and she can't get back. Does this ever happen?06:06
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fishnogeekthe ATI stuff looks much less painful now than it did a month ago06:06
chquitehi06:07
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Hoxzermaan, shower06:08
ViViDi just installed ubuntu, however the installer didnt ask me for the root password06:08
Hoxzerschool is starting in 1,1 Hours06:08
nomasteryodaViViD, there is none06:08
jbroome!tell ViViD about root06:08
ArcliteViVid, there isn't one.06:08
nomasteryodaViViD, your first user has sudo06:08
Hoxzer!tell Hoxzer about nxclient06:08
nomasteryodaubotu, tell ViViD about sudo06:08
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ViViDwhen i enter none, it says failed, no password entered06:08
fr33mindHi.  How to install java in my browser?  (galeon or firefox)06:09
nomasteryodaah, well then it did not finish installing?06:09
fishnogeek!VESA06:09
cdubyaViViD, what are you trying to do?06:09
ViViDso what, do i use my user account password?06:09
ViViDi guess it says root is disabled06:09
nomasteryodaViViD yup06:09
cdubyaViViD, yep06:09
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nomasteryodaon both accounts06:09
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CrazyHoboi'm tired of all of M$ Windoze and its spyware and stuff, and a friend said I should use linux06:09
nomasteryodayou make other users for regular stuff06:10
CrazyHoboi dun really no how to get started tho06:10
CrazyHobois there like an installer to download?06:10
ViViDi must say this looks nice, its like debian unstable, stable, with bootsplash06:10
ArcliteHave there been any cases of a Live CD killing a windows installation.06:10
fishnogeekDr_Willis...never mind, just got it figured out....thanks...06:10
cdubyaCrazyHobo, heh, just ask06:10
Dr_Willisfishnogeek, Lol... now you are not a total newbie!06:10
ArcliteCrazyHobo: Get the Live CD from the Ubuntu website.06:10
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cdubyaCrazyHobo, yep, you can d'load the iso file and burn it.....06:10
MadpilotCrazyHobo: you can download the CD images, or get free Ubuntu CDs shipped to you06:10
AtTack-masTeRI love UBUNTU06:10
nomasteryodaAtTack-masTeR, it is good stuff06:10
fr33mindyou h ou?06:11
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CrazyHoboso after i make the cd, what do I do?06:11
nomasteryodaand spyware just crys06:11
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fishnogeekDr_W:  close 'nuff for gov't work, as they say06:11
nomasteryodareboot... if you need windows data save it first06:11
ViViDyea, im glad i tried it, i was just about ready to use fedora..06:11
ArcliteCrazy: Boot from the disk.06:11
CrazyHoboi don't know how to do that06:11
nomasteryodaCrazy, yea... newer systems say press F1206:11
ViViDdebian stable is just too far behind, and the goobers around my house need gui06:11
MadpilotCrazyHobo: you stick it in your drive, and install - just like installing Windows06:11
pr1ranyone know how to install 2nd monitor - agp nvidia geforce fx 520006:11
nomasteryodathen choose boot from CD06:11
CrazyHobomy computer just came with windows, never installed it as such06:11
fr33mindHi.  How to install java in my browser?  (galeon or firefox)06:11
nomasteryodaCrazyHobo, the installer is soo much better than the windows crap...06:12
neighborleeIs anyone else seeing gnome panel menus sometimes dislay a arrow at top/bottom of menu, which when clicking on scrolls to rest of the menu items as if it gets confused that it can't display all at once?? ( also effects sub menus )06:12
nomasteryodaubotu, tell CrazyHobo about install06:12
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fishnogeek!kernel install06:13
ubotufishnogeek: I don't know, could you explain it?06:13
fishnogeek!kernel06:13
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CrazyHoboyea i'm totally tired of microshaft06:13
cdubyaheh06:13
cdubyahow long did that take/06:13
ViViDim got tired of being a "pirate" cuz theres no way in hell im gonna pay MS 300 bux for a cd06:14
Dr_WillisViViD,  :P06:14
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MadpilotCrazyHobo: you might want to download the LiveCD version first - it just runs off your CDRom drive and doesn't touch your harddrive, but it's a full version of Ubuntu06:14
cdubyaheh06:14
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CrazyHoboso this linux stuff is free, i'm downloading it right now06:15
Dr_WillisThey have to make up for the $$$ that they got fined by Korea06:15
CrazyHoboi dont understand how that works06:15
physisfunnily enough, i switched just after getting my first legit copy of windows in years06:15
ViViDso the system init and configs are build off debian..like my deb configs will work here?06:15
cdubyaDr_Willis, :)06:15
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ViViDbuilt*06:15
cdubyaI saw that today.....06:15
Dr_WillisCrazyHobo,  time to get reading.:P its an interesting idea/topic/story/process/06:15
evianwhat's a good password manager for Ubuntu?06:15
fishnogeekok, so here's another one:  while installing breezy on a ThinkPad T21 that already has XP, SUSE and Mandrake on it, i got a "choose a kernel" message, then a "kernel could not be installed" thing.....tried about eleven different things, no joy....anybody got an idea on that one?06:16
CrazyHobobut who's paying for the stuff?06:16
Dr_Williscdubya,  so they have to make a edition with 'links' to SOMTHING  thats competing with their stuff...  :P like Ubuntu.com?06:16
cdubyaheh06:16
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cdubyayeah06:16
x_orDoes anyone here use SHFS (secure shell file system) for Ubuntu?  I need a way to mount a directory on another linux box, and using samba seems just so unnatural.  Is there another simple option I can just turn on one box and mount on the other?06:16
MadpilotCrazyHobo: the Ubuntu project is sponsered by a very wealthy guy called Mark Shuttleworth06:16
Dr_Williscdubya,  or perhaps to... crappywordprocessor.com06:16
cdubyaheh06:16
Dr_Willisx_or,  why not 'nfs' ?06:16
CrazyHoboso he just pays the company that makes ubuntu linux?06:17
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jack_what's the command to revert to regular user in the commandline?06:17
jack_(after using sudo to become root)06:18
cdubyajack_, exit06:18
jack_thanks!06:18
evianCrazyHobo, partly, but most of the man hours in ubuntu were done for free by folks who like to program06:18
jack_makes sense06:18
cdubyaheh06:18
MadpilotCrazyHobo: he owns the company - but there's lots of companies & people involved in Linux06:18
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Dr_WillisHe liked it so much.. he created a company!06:19
CrazyHobowhy would people just work on it for free?06:19
CrazyHobocouldn't they work for like M$ or Apple and get paid?06:19
bob832any reason firestarter, after running all day, starting using +80% of CPU in the past couple of minutes?06:19
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cdubyaCrazyHobo, that's kinda the whole point of OSS.....06:19
Dr_Willisthey use it.. they improve it.. they share their improvements.06:19
CrazyHoboOSS?06:19
jack_they are interested in a working program06:20
pr1rlol06:20
lordluclessCrazyHobo: Working for someone means you gotta do what they tell you :P06:20
jack_first06:20
Razor-XCrazyHobo: yeah, and make a proprietary mess of it06:20
MadpilotCrazyHobo: Open Source Software06:20
jack_unlike companies that make money who are interested in money first06:20
lordluclessDoing your own stuff means you do what you want to do :)06:20
BenUrbanubotu: tell BenUrban about ati06:20
jack_and quality only if it means more money06:20
quackerHeh, he was in here the other day -- Mark Shuttleworth that is.  nickname is something lik asfvdf06:20
fishnogeekwell...why do people collect stamps?  or pay good money to go skiing or snowboarding?  it's something they like to do06:20
pr1rdoes anyone have a geforce fx video card that is workin on there computer?06:20
Madpilotquacker: sabdfl06:20
evianCrazyHobo, they could do that, but then they have to work on what their boss tells them to06:20
CrazyHoboMadpilot: what does that mean?06:20
fishnogeekand this 'hobby' (read obsession) happens to be productive....and it's going to save the planet06:20
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jack_opensource?06:21
Dr_Willissave the planet? :)06:21
desplesdaCrazyHobo:  "self appointed benevolent dictator for life" :)06:21
Madpilotsabdfl = Supreme Absolute Dictator For Life -- Mark's "title" in the Ubuntu project :D06:21
Dr_WillisOpen sores.06:21
jack_you have a car, right Hobo?06:21
x_orDr_Willis:  Is NFS simple to setup on an Ubuntu machine?06:21
CrazyHobowell my parents have cars06:21
wickedpuppy-+06:21
jack_plays06:21
Dr_Willisx_or,  yep. should be.06:21
wickedpuppy+06:21
intelikeyoss as in sound ?06:21
jack_er okays06:21
jack_Is it illegal for you to look under the hood?06:21
jack_or illegal for you to figure out how it works/06:21
jack_?06:21
CrazyHoboif it is, nobody told me06:21
jack_would ford sue you if you told your friend how your car drives?06:21
jack_yeah06:22
quackerAnd if you read thes tuff ont he site, it explains how he expects Ubuntu to become cashflow positive shortly -- though he pledges to fold it before any charging money -- except for premium support.06:22
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jack_well when you use windows, it is not open source, meaning you cannot see the code06:22
cdubyaintelikey, no. Open Source Software06:22
jack_and they will pretty much try to thwart anyone who tries to get at it06:22
jack_So Open Source just means that anyone can look at the code06:23
CrazyHobobut wouldn't the code be more like the blueprint to the car?06:23
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cdubyaheh06:23
jack_yeah exactly06:23
jack_just because i know how the car works06:23
jack_doesn't mean i can manifactur one06:23
desplesdaCrazyHobo:  more than just the blueprint to the car, it's like giving you the blueprints, the factory and the raw materials to make your own06:23
jack_well and to modify06:24
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desplesdathe idea being that if you make a better car, you can then give those better cars to other people06:24
jack_you could go make CrazyHobo linux if you wanted06:24
desplesdaand the car industry as a whole improves06:24
cdubyaheh06:24
CrazyHobobut couldn't someone just take the code and make it a whole lot better and then patent it or somethin?06:24
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jack_by changing the linux source and compiling it yourself06:24
cdubyathat sounds like a kinda cool flavor of linux06:24
cdubyaheh06:24
jack_haha yeah06:24
MadpilotCrazyHobo: the license used - called the GPL - prevents that sort of thing06:25
intelikey"<jack_> So Open Source just means that anyone can look at the code"  <---- no open source is much more than just the freedom to know how it works.  it is the freedom to change it, rewrite it, distribute it, and even yes 'sell it'   :)06:25
jack_well just because it is open does not mean you can steal it06:25
bshumateCrazyHobo depends on the license06:25
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cdubyabut Ubuntu just kicks, so unless you come up something really great, CrazyHobo, I'll stick close to home here....06:25
cdubya;P06:25
oddflux--hi22222222u06:25
jack_intelikey: yeah sorry, i am just trying to say it quickly06:25
intelikeyk06:25
Razor-XOSS is great indeed, and I think we should embrace it06:25
jack_there was a thing recently with these guys called "SCO"06:25
intelikeyhttp://www.gnu.org06:25
Razor-Xprogramming for want of money defeats the spirit06:25
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jack_who sued a number of linuxes06:25
intelikeyor is it .com06:26
jack_claiming they stole code06:26
cdubyasco. heh06:26
Razor-Xalthough, without closed source software, we won't get to see the awesome lightsaber fight with Gates vs. Stallman06:26
jack_but SCO couldn't show the judge a single line of code that was "stolen"06:26
bshumatewww.gnu.org is correct06:26
jack_so they threw it out06:26
CrazyHoboi'm seeing this Richard Stallman guy on the gnu page, whose he?06:26
intelikeybut this is really supposed to be in #ubuntu-offtopic06:26
jhealeyjack that trial is set for 200706:26
bshumatedon't forget mah main man rms, and fsf.orf!06:26
jack_what?06:26
jack_?!06:26
bshumateerr www.fsf.org06:26
jack_the wiki told me otherwise06:26
oddflux--I'm unfamiliar with ubuntu and firewalls, how secure is ubuntu by default?06:27
jack_hmmm, i guess i misread06:27
jhealeyi'd read it again06:27
jhealeyi'm sure it won't go anywere06:27
jhealeyno one expects SCO to be around by then06:27
CrazyHobook, i'll move to the offtopic chan06:27
Madpilotoddflux--: very06:27
Kyraloddflux--: no services are running by default06:27
jhealeyvery interesting stuff, nonetheless06:27
Kyralso nothing is listening06:27
pr1ranyone know how to hook up 2 monitors... geforce fx 5200 agp06:27
jack_oh...sorry just IBM was cleared06:27
oddflux--Right.06:28
Madpiloteveryone - #ubuntu-offtopic does exist... :)06:28
cdubyaheh06:28
pr1ri read the wiki and followed directions and it didnt work06:28
oddflux--nadpilot, thanks. :)06:28
jack_*meep*06:28
jhealeysorry madpilot, jack mentioned an internesting story06:28
jhealeyi'll shut up now06:28
cdubyamy bad, I was kinda fueling the fire there.....06:28
cnet2krfb is not accepting uninvited sessions, and the option is ON, anyone know why?06:29
jhealeyhey all, i gott arun06:29
jhealeysee y'all later06:29
ernestoHello06:29
cdubyalater06:29
jack_can anyone offer help on wireless lan cards?06:29
cdubyajack_, what kind of help06:29
jack_i have the .inf driver file06:29
jack_well, getting it to work basically06:29
nomasteryodaan, ndiswrapper06:29
nomasteryodaah i meant06:29
jack_i tried the ndiswrapper stuff from the ubuntuwiki06:29
jack_and the last step with ndiswrapper -l that is supposed to yeild happy stats06:30
oddflux--alright thanks.06:30
oddflux--gn06:30
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jack_just tells me that theyare invalid drivers06:30
cdubyajack_, so you did the whole Windows wireless drivers kinda thing....?06:30
shreevatsaDoes anyone know how totem-video-thumbnailer works? I'm just curious06:30
jack_er...yeah06:31
shreevatsaI mean, how does it decide which frame to grab, and can I specify it myself?06:31
jack_i got the file and put it in the folder and sicked ndiswrapper on it06:31
cdubyaheh06:31
ernestoI created a new user and a new group for two users, but the files created remain in the group of the same name as the user. Should I delete that group?06:31
cdubyajack_. hang on06:32
jack_okays06:32
intelikeyernesto man chgroup06:32
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ernestothanks06:32
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nomasteryodaso LOQUiLLO_ which is it? ubuntu or suse?06:33
intelikeyerrr chgrp  on some systems...06:33
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LOQUiLLO_Ubuntu06:33
shreevatsachgrp on ubuntu, right?06:33
nomasteryodacool06:33
ernestook06:33
LOQUiLLO_time for sleeeeeeeep06:34
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cdubyajack_, you did use a -i option in step 3, right? I ask because I thought you typed a -l above....06:34
intelikeyshreevatsa i don't know, i don't use it.06:34
lordluclessIm trying to install php4-gd2, but I cant find it in Synaptic. Is it in multiverse for some reason?06:34
shreevatsaintelikey, ok, it's chgrp, I checked06:34
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jack_cbudya, actually i DID type -l06:34
jack_but that is the fourth step06:34
jack_or fifth06:34
jack_and yeah i did use -i for the third06:34
cdubyak06:35
jack_i followed the steps exactly i am sure06:35
john_Hey.06:35
john_I was hoping I could get some advice.06:35
jack_i also took the card out and plugged it back into an adjecent slot06:35
cdubyajack_, which one are you following, just out of curiosity.06:35
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intelikeyhaY john you've come to the right place06:35
john_My monitor resolution is all screwed up.06:35
jack_https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto06:35
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john_My monitor is 1280x768.06:35
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shreevatsajohn_, this just happened, or since install?06:36
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john_But, it won't let me select that resolution, the only option is 1024x768.06:36
intelikeyhmmm wide screen06:36
shreevatsajohn_, I mean, did you install just now, or did you change something?06:36
john_Just installed.06:36
intelikeyshreevatsa note that it is widescreen06:36
ernie_OK, dapper drake install here i come06:37
john_I found some information on the internet and a patch that updates something to allow that resolution, but it's something else, you run gcc something and it is supposed to update, but I can't get it to run.06:37
cdubyajack_, you look at this one? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper?highlight=%28ndiswrapper%2906:37
shreevatsaintelikey, does that mean that it's not the "HorizSync line missing in xorg.conf problem" that I had?06:37
ernie_anyone with much XFCE experience?06:37
intelikeyjohn_ gcc is the c compiler for building software.  you have to install 'build-essential' before gcc will work.06:38
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ernie_any problems with it andd dapper?06:38
cibaoquick question for everyone...any clue when Ubuntu will have a package available for Firefox 1.5??06:38
shreevatsajohn_, try this (it worked for me, but mine wasn't widescreen)06:38
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shreevatsasudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:38
john_Everything else seems to run fine though, the whole thing seems pretty cool and so much less annoying than Windows XP, which I have to freaking reinstall every month to keep my laptop from crawling to a slow.06:38
john_But, I can't really use it with the screen all fuzzy. :)06:38
shreevatsajohn_, try this: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:38
shreevatsajohn_, (or whatever editor you like)06:39
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intelikeyshreevatsa it can probably be fixed in xorg.conf but i don't know how.  i've never played with a widey yet.06:39
shreevatsajohn_, find the section that says Section "Monitor".06:39
john_shreevatsa, : OK, I just get a blank file.06:39
shreevatsajohn_, Huh? That isn't supposed to happen...06:40
shreevatsajohn_, then I don't know06:40
intelikeyjohn_ check spelling and caps.   case is important.06:40
jack_cdubya : it's still not working, i don't see the device in the network settings window06:40
john_intelikey: Thanks, I'm an idiot.06:41
john_I know enough about the Mac OS X terminal to get myself into trouble, not much more. lol.06:41
shreevatsajohn_, I had to insert the two lines saying (HorizSync 30-70) and (VertRefresh 50-160)06:41
intelikeyi didm't mean to sound condecending06:42
shreevatsajohn_, and then it worked for me. Of course, your numbers are probably different, consult your monitor06:42
cdubyajack_, did you compile everything, or use apt to install the ndiswrapper files.....06:42
john_OK...06:42
john_Odd...06:42
john_Section "Screen"06:42
john_Identifier"Default Screen"06:42
john_Device"Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device"06:42
john_Monitor"Generic Monitor"06:42
john_DefaultDepth2406:42
john_SubSection "Display"06:42
john_Depth106:42
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john_Modes"1280x768"06:42
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intelikey!paste06:42
ubotu[paste]  please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text06:42
jack_i used apt to install the package06:42
cibaoanyone have a clue as to when Firefox will be available on Ubuntu?06:42
jack_oer...synatic or...synaptic06:42
cdubyajack_, k06:42
john_The only resolutions in there are 1280x768...06:42
john_Maybe I just need to restart or something.06:43
jack_i guess i could try compiling it, i have no experience doing that, but there are directions on wiki.ubuntu...06:43
cdubyajack_, you don't have anything in the networking window other eth0 and perhaps modem?06:43
thoreauputicjohn_: if you paste like that again you will be silenced - please read the /topic06:43
intelikeyjohn_ [ctrl] +[alt] +[backspace]    to restart X06:43
jack_i have "modem  connection" that is not configured06:44
shreevatsaintelikey, you didn't warn him :)06:44
cdubyajack_, that's all that shows up in networking?06:44
chemisuswhat packages do i need to use gtk+ in c++?06:44
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Madpilotshreevatsa: I think that was his warning...06:44
jack_yup06:44
cdubyahuh06:44
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intelikeyabout loosing the connection when he did that ?   yeah he'll find his way back  :)06:45
cdubyajack_, what does your /etc/network/interfaces look like? you wanna paste that up?06:45
jack_er....06:45
jack_i can't?06:45
jack_i mean06:45
cdubyaheh06:45
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cdubyaoh yeah06:45
cdubyasorry06:45
jack_i'd have to take a screen shot and burn it across if that'd even work06:45
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jack_ubuntu have a default burner?06:45
Madpilot!pastebin06:45
ubotuhmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com06:45
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jdmpikehello all, my laptop won't hibernate correctly... can anyone help?06:46
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john_OK, thanks for the advice.06:46
john_I'm obviously not very bright.06:46
john_Because it works fine now. lol.06:46
intelikeyyou're welcome john06:47
john_Except, I can't tell if it's just my contacts being screwy, but now some text is fuzzy.06:47
john_But not all text.06:47
shreevatsajohn_, great, congratulations06:47
john_Mainly title bar text.06:47
shreevatsajohn_, the resolution is right?06:47
john_It looks like it to me.06:47
cdubyajack_, would you paste the contents of /etc/network/interfaces to the pastebin?06:47
intelikeyjohn_ you can adjust the fonts and see if that helps06:47
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john_When I pulled up that file that you told me to pull up, the only resolution entries in there were 1280x768.06:48
jack_The pastebin?06:48
john_I think I managed to apply a patch I downloaded and didn't realize it was successful.06:48
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cdubyahttp://ubuntu.pastebin.com06:48
intelikeyjack read the topic06:48
thoreauputicjack-:  /topic06:48
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john_Now I just need to read up and figure out how to get iTunes running and my life will be much happier.06:48
BenUrbansomebody please remind me how to reconfigure xorg06:49
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jack_thoreauputic , that command doesn't do anything...?06:49
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intelikeysudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:49
fr500hello06:49
thoreauputicBenUrban:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:49
BenUrbanthanks06:49
fr500is mame available in ubuntu repos? i can-t find it06:49
thoreauputicjack-: what client are you using?06:49
jack_i just got this thing "colloquy" for OSX06:49
jack_i'm not familiar with it, but so far it's been fine06:50
thoreauputicjack-: ah, I see06:50
Hobbsee!info mame06:50
jack_i'm an awful person too, maybe that is why06:50
john_What's the easiest way to get Crossover Office going to I can run iTunes?06:50
thoreauputicjack-: the channel topic should be at the top of your screen I would think06:50
cdubyajack_, yeah, it's at the top of the colloquy window.06:50
PokerFacePenguinwhere in /var/log should I be looking for evidence telling my why my machine shut down abruptly while running a wine app?06:50
fr500!info mame06:51
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jack_qahhh06:51
fr500!info xmame06:51
jack_it was just hidden, thanks06:51
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cdubyajack_, used to use that client....06:51
cdubyaheh06:51
cyanidehey06:51
thoreauputicjack-: do yourself a favour and get a decent IRC client :)06:51
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cyanideubuntu > all06:52
cyanidelol06:52
shreevatsajohn_, there are probably packages for Linux that can replace iTunes, getting one of them will be easier, maybe06:52
cyanidebut need help06:52
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jack_thoreauputic : actually this has a really cool feature, it bugs me when you someone says my name and this is not the active window06:52
fr500Hobbsee: so it's not available?06:52
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jdmpikecan everyone else hibernate/suspend their pcs?06:52
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Hobbseefr500: looks like it06:52
jack_thoreauputic , including marking it on the scroll bar06:52
thoreauputiccdubya: the stuff of flamewars :))06:52
cyanidei cant use the net on ubuntu 5.04, but can ping servers06:52
cdubyajack_, yeah, it's actually pretty slick...06:52
cyanideneed help06:52
cdubyathoreaputic, figgered so.06:53
cdubya:)06:53
thoreauputicjack-: several clients can do that easily06:53
intelikey!ask06:53
jack_cdubya you don't need me to copy the #commented things right?06:53
cyanidehuh ?06:53
PokerFacePenguincyanide: got a firewall blocking http?06:53
cdubyajack_, not necessarily06:53
cyanidenope06:53
cyanidei mean, i dunno06:53
cyanidebut dont think so06:53
PokerFacePenguincyanide: if you didnt install one ya dont :)06:53
cyanidejust a fresh install of ubuntu06:54
jack_thoreauputic : can you recommend a good one for OSX then? I grabbed this one because it was free and looked relatively un-evil06:54
fr500Hobbsee: weird06:54
fr500!extrarepositories06:54
ubotufr500: I give up, what is it?06:54
cdubyajack_, XChatAqua06:54
Arclitejack_ X-Chat Aqua06:54
fr500!repositories06:54
ubotu[repositories]  How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list06:54
PokerFacePenguincyanide: did you use an automated config script like automatix or easy kubuntu?06:54
cdubyait's pretty good06:54
fr500!sources06:54
cyanideno script06:54
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic06:54
thoreauputicjack-: there's an xchat for OS-X but it isn't very good IMO - there is irssi though (command line client)06:54
cyanideand btw, while installing, it detected the network stuff using dhcp06:54
cyanidebut at the end, while checking for apt, it just waited there06:55
cdubyaheh, I always had good luck with XChatAqua....06:55
cyanidetrying to check the net06:55
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thoreauputiccdubya: it's OK06:55
jack_does xchat work with AIM protocols too or is it just aim?06:55
jack_er haha, just IRC*06:55
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PokerFacePenguincyanide: apt can react kinda slow sometimes since there are so many people hitting the main repos..if you change to mirrors you will get quicker response06:55
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cyanidenope06:55
Arclitejack: just IRC06:55
cyanidejust did nothing06:56
intelikeycdubya we don't flame, we just hack.06:56
cdubyaheh06:56
cdubyathanks, intelikey06:56
intelikey:)06:56
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cyanidethe router didnt show any activity06:56
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cyanidehelp me people :P06:56
thoreauputicjack-: if you want a multi-protocol client there's Gaim - I don't know if there's an OS-X version though06:56
PokerFacePenguincyanide: back to your issue...hmm, so you can ping outside?06:56
cyanideyes06:56
cdubyayeah, I use gaim06:56
cyanidei could ping google06:56
cdubyait's pretty nice.06:56
cdubyaheard there was supposed to be a new version coming out...?06:56
PokerFacePenguinand you cant hit google with your browser?06:57
shreevatsaapt-get gives thison one of the repos: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)06:57
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cyanideno06:57
jack_cdubya , it's in the bin under jack_06:57
cdubyajack_, k06:57
shreevatsabut the packages.gz there is fine, I downloaded it from the url and checked it06:57
cyanideeven while installing, it was having probs06:57
intelikeysudo dpkg-reconfigure -a06:57
cyanideso removed the router power while installing second time06:57
thoreauputic!start an irc client war06:57
ubotuirssi is better than konversation !06:57
cdubyaheh06:58
cdubyathat was cool06:58
intelikeyhow would that start a war ?06:58
ArcliteMyself and 3 friends have gotten Ubuntu Live working, and myself and another have even installed, no problems. However, a 5th friend claims they ran Live once, wanted to reboot back into Windows, and couldn't. Apparently, the Live CD trashed their Windows system, and it won't boot back up correctly. Are there any documented cases of this?06:58
PokerFacePenguincyanide: well, its not a routing issue if you can ping outside your net06:58
cyanideyes06:58
jack_Eek06:58
cyanideso what could it be ?06:58
thoreauputicintelikey: well, people are pretty loyal to their IRC clients ;)06:59
enocan I go apt-get install kde then edit my xorg.conf or something and run kde?06:59
PokerFacePenguincyanide: sounds like http is blocked to me06:59
intelikey!start a desktop war06:59
uboturatpoison is much better than kde!06:59
cyanidehow do i unblock it06:59
jack_hahahahah06:59
shreevatsaeno, you don't have to edit anything06:59
intelikeythems fighten words06:59
enogrrr06:59
cyanidewhile installation too06:59
thoreauputic!start an editor war06:59
shreevatsaeno, but if you wan't kde, do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop06:59
ubotunotepad.exe is better than emacs.06:59
thoreauputichahah06:59
enohahaha06:59
cdubyaheh06:59
cdubyajack_, you definitely don't have any wireless.07:00
cdubyaheh07:00
shreevatsawant07:00
Arcliteagreed. vim forever!07:00
FujitsuI like that, thoreauputic.07:00
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Windows_fanboylol07:00
enoisn't there some way to switch between gnome and kde?  I remember I was using flwm for a while...07:00
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FujitsuYes, vim forever. But, we digress. We had a large war about 8 hours ago now...07:00
PokerFacePenguincyanide: go to a terminal window and type wget http://www.google.com/07:00
cdubyaheh07:00
jack_cdubya what should i be seeing listed in that file that indicates something is going right?07:00
Windows_fanboymanuals suck07:00
intelikeyeno if you install kde along side gnome you can choose which desktop at login.07:00
Windows_fanboypl07:00
cdubyajack_, hang on...07:00
Windows_fanboyok, but while installation ?07:00
Windows_fanboyit will get stuck there too07:01
enothanks intelikey07:01
intelikeyeno you might consider installing kdm also  :)07:01
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Windows_fanboyit detects dhcp settings at the start of installation, but at the end, it just gets stuck at the apt screen07:01
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shreevatsaFujitsu, on what?07:01
enothanks shreevatsa07:01
enowhat is kdm?07:02
Fujitsushreevatsa, on editors!07:02
B_166-ER-Xhow can i mount my Kodak digital cam Usb connection ???07:02
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intelikeykde's version of xdm    same as gdm is gnome's version of xdm07:02
shreevatsaFujitsu, So, who won? :)07:02
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B_166-ER-Xplease help..07:02
Fujitsushreevatsa, I think it ended up being VIm.07:03
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intelikeyx/g/k(display manager)07:03
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enooooooh07:03
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intelikeyeno it is the login screen that you see befor gnome loads07:03
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enoI lost my breezy cd, what do I do when aPT ASKS FOR IT?07:04
cdubyajack_, here's what mine looks like....well, except for a few lines which I suspect you'll figure out what I'm talking about....  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/549907:04
DrBairB_166-ER-X:  does gnome-volume-manager pick it up when you plug it in?07:04
Madpiloteno: edit your sources.list so it doesn't look for the CD07:04
B_166-ER-XDrBair,  nope.07:04
intelikeyeno edit /etc/apt/apt.conf and comment out the line for the cd and run  apt-get update   and it wont ask for it.07:04
B_166-ER-Xalthough lusb list it07:05
B_166-ER-Xas Bus 002 Device 003: ID 040a:0131 Kodak Co. DC-500007:05
DrBairB_166-ER-X:  whats the model number?07:05
fr500how can i restore my sources.list after using automatix?07:05
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shreevatsaeno, /etc/apt/sources.list actually07:05
intelikeyerrrrr maybe it is dpkg.conf   i don't remember.07:05
enothanks!07:05
jack_hmm, okay thanks cdubya , i mean it's all greek to me, but i have something to compare too now07:05
intelikeywhich ever one is there.....07:05
Windows_fanboyanyone willing to help ?07:05
PokerFacePenguinfr500: i believe that automatix makes a backup of all files it changes07:05
cdubyajack_, I was just showing you that to show you the difference.....07:06
jack_yeah07:06
cdubyajack_, thing is, it doesn't sound like you ever got the instance of the interface setup07:06
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Madpilot!tell fr500 about sources07:06
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intelikey:)07:06
cdubyaheh07:06
jack_hahah07:06
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jack_the interface of what though? i'm sort of doing this blind07:06
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Windows_fanboycmon man07:07
jack_i mean i am typing what things tell me to type but i do not understand what these apps are doing07:07
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jack_the wrapper is specifically for setting up drivers though, i get that07:07
cdubyajack_, yeah07:07
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BenUrbanwhy doesn't the fglrx module seem to be installed?07:08
BenUrbani did install the package...07:08
DrBairB_166-ER-X:  is gnome-volume-manager enabled to look at digital cameras?07:08
BenUrbanbut the module doesn't exist07:08
MadpilotBenUrban: have you seen the Ubuntu wiki's ATI page?07:08
intelikeyWindows_fanboy i am network illiterate i couldn't help with that if i tried.07:08
BenUrbanyes07:08
fr500Madpilot: i had some other repos, for pptp and stuff07:08
B_166-ER-XDrBair,  ..how do i know this ?07:08
DrBairB_166-ER-X:  it seems like that model is supported by gphoto, but I've had a case where it didn't work as said07:08
Windows_fanboyyou know anyone else ?07:08
DrBairB_166-ER-X:  system->prefs->removable media07:09
intelikeyMadpilot might know07:09
Madpilotfr500: and Automatix trashed them?07:09
Madpilotintelikey: what might I know?07:09
intelikeyof course he's busy right now.07:09
cdubyaWindows_fanboy, you can't get out on the net, is that the issue?07:09
Windows_fanboyhey madpilot can you help me out ?07:09
fr500Madpilot: it-s not over yet, but my sources.list looks different now07:09
Windows_fanboyyes07:09
Windows_fanboygets stuck at installation too07:09
fr500maybe it restores it afterwards07:09
B_166-ER-XDrBair,  yes. seems enabled07:09
enoit was sources.list by the way07:09
enothanks again07:10
Windows_fanboyat the end, during the apt thing07:10
Windows_fanboytho it detects dhcp settings in the beginning of the install07:10
cdubyaWindows_fanboy, so you've got it cabled?07:10
Windows_fanboycabled ?07:10
jack_i'll be back later07:10
cdubyaWindows_fanboy, you're using a network cable to connect to your router?07:11
Windows_fanboyyes07:11
cdubyak07:11
Windows_fanboynot wireless07:11
Windows_fanboyits a dlink router07:11
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Windows_fanboyand im using nforce3 based mobo...07:11
cdubyais the ip you're getting from the router good?07:11
Windows_fanboyyes07:11
Windows_fanboyi can ping google after installation07:11
Windows_fanboybut nothing else07:11
DrBairB_166-ER-X:  startup gThumb and click on import photos under the file menu07:12
cdubyaso the install never finishes?07:12
intelikeybut cant surf there07:12
Windows_fanboyyes07:12
Windows_fanboyand gets stuck during installation07:12
DrBairB_166-ER-X:  from there select the camera (or try autodetect even) and see if you can't get it going like that07:12
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enowhat does *buntu mean?07:12
Windows_fanboyso if i put on my router, the installation is a waste07:12
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Windows_fanboyhave to restart and do installation again07:12
B_166-ER-XDrBair,  with some searching  and selecting my Cam, Gtkam as been able to do it07:12
intelikeyeno it's on the http://www.ubuntu.com site07:13
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BenUrbanany idea why the fglrx driver might not be showing up?07:13
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cdubyawhat model of router?07:13
Windows_fanboydlink 502t07:13
DrBairB_166-ER-X:  fantastic07:13
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DrBairB_166-ER-X:  is gnome-volume-manager working otherwise? like with usb drives and cdroms?07:14
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whyameyeis there a way to know what hw:0,0 vs hw:0,1 is for ALSA?07:14
enojust the 3 then?07:14
B_166-ER-Xyes he is07:14
maximausquickie query (I know how to fix, but curious): the grub default changed without me touching it...happened after an update to a new kernel...could that have changed it?! :S07:14
BenUrbannobody has encountered this problem before?07:14
B_166-ER-XUsbdrive usually auto detects07:14
BenUrbanwhat if i copied my kernel & modules from gentoo? would that do the trick?07:14
Windows_fanboydont think so benurban07:15
BenUrbanwhy not?07:15
Windows_fanboybecause i dont think so :P07:15
BenUrbanlol07:15
Windows_fanboydont have a good reason, but trust me07:15
Madpilot!ati07:15
ubotuati is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1007:15
MadpilotBenUrban: see above ^^^07:15
BenUrbanMadpilot: i already saw that07:15
shreevatsaI still want to know if I can specify which frame totem-video-thumbnailer should pick out...07:15
BenUrbanit's a pain to retype that forum link in my other screen though07:16
BenUrbanand i already followed the howto07:16
intelikeyBenUrban you can try it.   but keep the ub kernel around so when it don't boot right you can boot the working package  :)07:16
MadpilotBenUrban: which ATI card?07:16
BenUrbanheh07:16
BenUrbanMadpilot: radeon 9000m07:16
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BenUrbanintelikey: but of course ;)07:17
cdubyaWindows_fanboy, sorry, but I want to make sure I understand how far you've gotten. so you never get the installation completed?07:17
Windows_fanboycan i pm you ?07:17
intelikeyhaving bsod fanticies again M$ boy07:17
cdubyasure07:17
MadpilotBenUrban: I've got a 9600XT and it runs fine...07:17
BenUrbanMadpilot: the problem is not whether it runs with the driver07:17
B_166-ER-XDrBair,  migh have been prematurate...dang ; gtKam has an error, and Gthumb have an error too 'could not query kernel driver of device'07:17
Windows_fanboyshit, i cant pm anyone07:17
BenUrbanthe problem is that the driver seems to be missing07:17
BenUrbaneven the directory that it should be in isn't there07:18
enoman, they're right... everything starts with a k07:18
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MadpilotBenUrban: "Your card model is an entire number in the 9xxx series, and is equal to or above 9500"07:18
mkyb14anyone here use wine?07:18
MadpilotBenUrban: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto -- I'm going to add that to the /ATI page as well07:18
shreevatsaHey, I remembered: I haven't been able to get wine to work either07:19
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thoreauputic!anyone07:19
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>07:19
mkyb14damn it i dont' know how to install the apps07:19
BenUrbanlol @ anyone07:19
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shreevatsawine exits with "Warning: the specified System directory L"c:\\windows\\system" is not accessible."07:19
whyameyein ALSA how can I know the difference between hw:0,0 and hw:0,1 for example?07:19
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enotry ReactOS :P07:19
shreevatsarather, with "wine: cannot open (null)"07:20
Lewixhi again07:20
Lewixstill the same problem07:20
LewixI really need help07:20
intelikeyhehhe can not open null   :)07:20
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LewixI need a link that works,where I can downlaod the dvd iso of ubuntu07:21
screwyI'm in need of help with my soundcard.07:21
Madpilot!tell Lewix about download07:22
shreevatsaLewix, there is no DVD. Ubuntu comes on a single CD07:22
thoreauputicshreevatsa: erm, there *is* a DVD07:22
Lewixwell it's a bit unprofessional..they put a lot of links to download the dvd in their website07:22
shreevatsasorry then! :(07:22
Lewixand they are all down07:23
whyameyeshreevatsa: I downloaded the DVD the other day. It has both Live and Install on it. Only available through a .torrent seed I believe.07:23
MadpilotLewix: the torrent doesn't even work?07:23
Lewixthe torrent works but It's so slow07:23
intelikeyscrewy some said 'cat /proc/asound/cards '  or something like to see if the system knows your hardware or not.07:23
Madpilotshreevatsa: very bottom of this: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/ for the DV07:23
MadpilotDVD07:23
LewixI'm still dl it since 3days07:23
screwyI'll try it, intelikey.07:23
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MadpilotLewix: how big is the DVD d/l?07:24
Lewixso please if someone can dcc me07:24
Lewix2.807:24
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Lewixgig07:24
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screwyIntel: 0 [Intel          ] : HDA-Intel - HDA Intel07:24
screwy                     HDA Intel at 0xefffc000 irq 1607:24
BenUrban;)07:24
intelikeyscrewy if your card shows up there then it may just be muted.07:24
intelikeyyeah07:24
intelikeyalsamixer07:24
shreevatsaWhen is the earliest I can register on Shipit to get Dapper CDs?07:25
screwyMy problemis that, sure, I can hear sound through xmms and such, but I can't hear sound from Flash, and I can't input any sound.07:25
LewixIn fact I've been able to download it somewhere but I think that the file is corrupted07:25
Madpilotscrewy: Flash sound is a different problem07:25
Lewixplease guys help07:25
screwyOh.  Well, that's not the biggets of my worries.07:25
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ardchoilleWhere can I find some official/supported Ubuntu logos/icons?07:26
screwyIt's the imput that I'm worried about.07:26
screwy*input07:26
Madpilotscrewy: for flash & sound, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-14b59545789e901fc704a72bfea6a592efb9cdd507:26
varsendaggerardchoille, gnome-look has some i think07:26
Lewixarf07:26
screwyThanks, Madpilot07:26
intelikeyinput ?    explain07:26
Madpilotardchoille: search the wiki for "art"07:26
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ardchoillevarsendagger: thanks :)07:27
ardchoilleMadpilot: ah, good idea07:27
_jasonubotu, tell ardchoille about art07:27
screwyWell, when I plug a mic in and try and record, the app freezes.07:27
linux_n00b_eHow do i change the permissions of a file thru the Terminal?07:27
varsendaggerubotu tell varsendagger about art07:27
_jasonlinux_n00b_e, chmod07:27
thoreauputiclinux_n00b_e: chmod, chown etc07:27
ardchoille_jason: thanks :)07:28
intelikeylinux_n00b_e   man chmod07:28
linux_n00b_eThanks!07:28
Lewixk I will change my distrib I'll try debian I'm tired07:28
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thoreauputicchmod for permissions, chown for ownership07:28
intelikeylinux_n00b_e you will need sudo if you don't own the file.07:28
screwyAny idea what's wrong?07:30
intelikeylinux_n00b_e and word to the wise, don't play with sudo'd ch*'s any place but in $HOME/    you can make a system unusable/unbootable with the wrong chmod in /07:30
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intelikeyscrewy no.  not without more details. and i might not know anyway.     errr probably wont.07:31
intelikeyscrewy i've never had that problem.07:32
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screwyWell, I'm on a Dell Dimension 9100 with Breezy.07:33
screwyAnd this isn't the first time I've had trouble with Ubuntu and Dell,07:33
intelikeyhmmmm07:33
screwyBack when I installed Hoary on this computer, it wouldn't even recognize my ethernet card, let alone my soundcard at all.07:34
intelikeyspeeking of sound cards.... i need to change the one in this box...07:35
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intelikeyscrewy have you tried record from the cli to see if it errored out ?07:36
screwyCLI?07:36
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intelikeyinstall "sox"  for the 'play' and 'record' commands.07:37
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PokerFacePenguinscrewy: command line interface07:37
screwyNope.07:37
intelikeycli=command line interface.   as opposed to gui=graphical user interface07:37
screwyApt-getting sox right now.07:37
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screwyOK. Got it.07:38
screwyNow what?07:38
intelikeyman record07:38
screwyNo manual entry for record.07:38
intelikeyhmmm man play07:39
screwyThere,07:39
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screwyman rec07:40
intelikeyoh  record on some systems  :)07:40
screwyThanks, though07:40
screwyNot to badger you guys too much...  But I have no idea what I'm reading.07:41
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Madpilotman pages are often like that...07:42
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quackerG'nite, hoser.07:42
intelikeyme too.   gooday07:42
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jbroomei'm out too07:44
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pr1rhi again im back with the same question...07:45
screwyYes?07:45
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pr1ri have an geforce fx 5200 agp video card that i wanted as my main monitor... i cannot get it to work and the video card that is working (voodoo 3) is like 640 by 480 right now... ive did what the wiki says and can not get the monitor to work07:46
pr1rwow i dont think that posted everything07:46
pr1ri cannot get my agp - geforce fx 5200 video card to work07:46
screwySorry, man, I'm hardware-tarded.07:47
screwyHence why I'm here.07:47
pr1rlol07:47
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pr1rdamn07:47
screwyHaving big soundcard issues.07:47
pr1ryeah07:47
pr1rwhat you got07:47
pr1rcl5.1?07:47
screwyYou see, I have absolutely no idea what that means :P07:47
pr1roh07:47
pr1rcreative labs 5.107:48
screwy/home/screwy/Desktop/Tunes/Unknown Artist/Unknown Title/08 - Track 8.ogg07:48
screwyWhoops.07:48
screwy0 [Intel          ] : HDA-Intel - HDA Intel07:48
screwy                     HDA Intel at 0xefffc000 irq 1607:48
screwy^ that07:48
pr1rits the sound card from the computer...07:48
shreevatsascrewy: BTW, I love that song :)07:48
pr1ryeah07:48
screwyhaha07:48
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pr1rthat songs off the meat rack07:48
screwyNah, it's from the Rapeublicans EP.07:49
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pr1roh07:49
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mlv2005how can i install the psi07:50
pr1rwhats in the psi?07:50
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pr1rok07:51
mlv2005messaging application like yahoo messenger07:51
Hobbsee!info psi07:51
quadra[ !unload : no module with this name ] 07:51
ubotupsi: (Jabber client using Qt), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.9.3-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 2064 kB, Installed size: 6124 kB07:51
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Hobbseemlv2005: sudo apt-get install psi07:52
Lockehow do i check what kernel i have?07:52
MadpilotLocke: uname -a in a terminal07:52
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linux_n00b_eHow can I tell which shell I'm using when i'm in the console?07:54
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shreevatsalinux_n00b_e: try  echo $SHELL07:55
linux_n00b_eThanks...07:55
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shreevatsalinux_n00b_e: but most of the time, it will probably be bash, anyway07:55
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shreevatsalinux_n00b_e: but most of the time, it will probably be bash, anyway07:56
shreevatsaoops, sorry07:56
linux_n00b_eit is... :)07:57
mlv2005it ok now i got it07:57
mlv2005thanks07:57
mlv2005by07:57
mlv2005bye for now07:57
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mlv2005thanks to hobbsee07:58
Hobbseeno problems mlv200507:58
hylaspsi looks pretty ordinary07:58
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mlv2005hylas do you have any suggestion07:59
hylasFor what?07:59
whyameyeJust got a ShoutCast setup running on ubuntu. Wow this is hot! Using jack and jack-rack with darkice is hot! I *highly* recommend...07:59
mlv2005for psi07:59
hylasto make it better you mean?07:59
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mlv2005yes07:59
hylasfrom just opening it up, it seems to lack features, things that stand out to you etc08:00
mlv2005what do you use instead08:00
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hylaswell since gaim comes with ubuntu, I've been using that.08:01
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shayahy all08:01
mlv2005ah ok, im just trying to explore a little bit08:01
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shayai now user in this room08:02
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Fujitsuhe now not user in this room08:03
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enoI am in KDE!08:05
enothanks a tonne08:05
shreevatsaFujitsu: lol08:05
enoit took forever cause I had this crazy thing with gnutella using up my inodes08:06
chaumurkyHi all, who's using GAIM here?08:06
shreevatsachaumurky: for IRC, or in general?08:06
chaumurkyOh, now - for IRC08:06
shreevatsachaumurky: not me, sorry08:07
chaumurkyjust had a tweak quastion...08:07
chaumurkyI'll keep digging around...08:08
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shreevatsachaumurky: go ahead, someone might be able to answer it...08:08
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chaumurkyWell, I just wanted to turn off the 'entering'/'exiting' messages.08:08
chaumurkycan't see an option08:09
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shreevatsachaumurky: Gaim isn't really known for being an IRC client.. it's cheifly for IM08:10
shreevatsachaumurky: you could xchat instead...08:10
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chaumurkyYeah, I know. I use my old msn account for it - just thought I could kill 2 birds...08:10
shreevatsachaumurky: you can kill them, but you'll need 2 stones :)08:11
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chaumurky:-)08:12
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enothanks for your help everybody... I think I am going back to Gnome08:12
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chaumurkyKDE makes my teeth hurt...08:13
chorsechaumurky, that's cause of all the kandy :)08:13
chaumurkyklol08:13
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learnfromscratchwhen ever i call a php program thru my browser.. it starts downloading the php file.. how do i make it execute the php program in the server.. I am running the server locally . am running debian08:14
chaumurkyhave you installed the php extension for apache2?08:14
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monkievoxhowdy all!  i'm installing UBUNTU 510.  i'm at the part in the install where i'm dealing with partitions.  what file system should i use?  Ext3? ReiserFS?  any advice?08:15
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chorsemonkievox, if you are unsure use the default, in this case ext3.08:16
chaumurkylearnfromscratch: try sudo a2enmod php4  && sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart08:16
TmfcI'm just getting into Ubuntu.  ... just wanted to see if I could post on this IRC (my first time on IRC)08:17
chaumurkyTmfc: success!08:17
Tmfcwoo hoo08:18
tisayhi08:18
y0zext3 is the 'usual' choice i think08:18
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monkievoxyOz: what makes it so?08:18
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monkievoxchorse/yOz: thanks :)08:18
Tmfcso my first question... ubuntu has updates every 6 months.  does that mean when I update, I get a new kernel? (I recall upgrading the kernal in Debian to be a pain)08:18
chaumurkyTmfc: usually, yes.08:19
chorsemonkievox, np :)08:19
linux_n00b_eI'm trying to change the permissions for a file for user and group. I type out: sudo chmod ug + rwx [filename] , but I keep getting an error saying: invalid mode string 'ug'. This is the way the man said to type it, so why am I getting errors?08:19
MadpilotTmfc: yes, and it's fairly painless, IME08:19
ChousukeTmfc: updating the kernel isn't difficult at all08:20
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chaumurkyTmfc: just wait till the official release.08:20
ChousukeTmfc: you problem with debian may have been the transition from 2.4 to 2.6.08:20
fulldnew install of ubuntu freezes at first boot of X - any hints?08:20
Tmfcgreat. thx.08:20
Chousukeusually you just install the linux-image-whatever packages and reboot.08:20
chorselinux_n00b_e, try ug+rwx08:20
Chousukeif using grub08:20
linux_n00b_ethanks chorse08:21
Tmfci  didn't really have a problem with debian.  I only upgraded the kernel once, but I recall a bunch of things.  it may have been from 2.4 to 2.608:21
chorsenp :)08:21
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TmfcI recall having to do a bunch of weird things...08:22
Tmfcthanks for the feedback.  i look forward to learning ubunto.  Good to know where to get help!  thanks!08:22
MadpilotTmfc: only thing I had to do was restart - which is wierd enough - and then reconfigure my ATI 3d drivers08:22
Tmfcyou mean restart after the upgrade?08:23
chaumurkyTmfc: new kernel is about the only thing you need to reboot for.08:23
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jack_hello all!08:23
MadpilotTmfc: yes, restart after the kernel upgrade08:24
Tmfcgotcha. thanks!08:24
Madpilotand then again after the ATI fix - I restarted more that day that I had for the previous two or three weeks...08:24
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linux_n00b_eOk, I'm really getting frustrated, arg! I'm trying to change the icon of my external drive that i have on my desktop. Whenever I right click on it and access the properties box to change the picture, I get an error message saying that I don't have sufficient privilages to make changes to '.directory'. But I just changed the permissions to the file in the Terminal using chmod. So why am I still getting this error message?08:25
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monkievoxum ... swap partition should be primary, ja?08:30
YukiIkyutamonkievox, ja.08:30
iicaptaindon't matter08:30
FujitsuNot necessarily, ja.08:30
monkievoxthanks all :)08:31
YukiIkyutaFujitsu, warum so?08:31
Fujitsu2/1.08:31
FujitsuYukiIkyuta, why does it matter!!??08:31
YukiIkyutaFujitsu, warum nicht!?08:31
iicaptainmine's hda5 (secondary)08:31
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Fujitsu08:31
YukiIkyutaiicaptain, nein! As in, the difference between primary and logical/extended.08:31
FujitsuDAMNUIM.08:31
monkievoxja!08:31
chorseYukiIkyuta, worum geht es? :)08:31
YukiIkyutaFujitsu, 08:31
iicaptainjust make it a 'middle' partition for speed08:32
MadpilotJust buy more RAM, for speed ;)08:32
YukiIkyutaMadpilot :)08:32
monkievoxprimary vs. logical, not actual location on disk08:32
FujitsuMadpilot, true.08:32
iicaptainand that...08:32
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YukiIkyutaBut, iicaptain, primary vs. logical is the question here.08:32
iicaptainprimary vs. logical doesn't matter.08:32
YukiIkyutaFujitsu, ko:nnen wir `Logical' haben?08:32
Madpilot... I'm seriously comptemplating putting a 2nd Gb in this box; I hardly stress the CPU but I seem to use buckets of RAM...08:33
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YukiIkyutaRAM is probably the scarcest resource a computer typically has available to it.08:33
YukiIkyutaI don't see many of us using `swap CPUs' :)08:33
iicaptainas long as fstab is correct08:33
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FujitsuMadpilot, Gnome will take care of the RAM eating for you.08:33
monkievoxi'll try primary then08:33
YukiIkyutamonkievox, I'd say, though it might not matter if it's primary or logical, there's no reason not to use primary.08:34
FujitsuDamnit. I have this annoying habit of not properly releasing shift before I press space, so Uim kicks in.08:34
YukiIkyutaFujitsu, I changed the mapping to ctrl+shift+space.08:34
monkievoxaye, danke all! :)08:34
FujitsuYukiIkyuta, except if you already have enough primaries!08:34
iicaptainif you use less than 4 partitions it's arbitrary08:34
MadpilotFujitsu: I'm running Gnome - but with 8 virtual desktops and 100+ processes running at once B)08:34
YukiIkyutaO_o08:34
FujitsuMadpilot, that might eat some RAM, yes.08:34
CoweaterMadpilot: how are you checking the amount of ram you're using?08:34
jack_what does shift space do?08:34
YukiIkyutajack_, it's UIM's default mode-change key.08:35
monkievoxhmmm ... including this new swap aprt, looks like i'll have five parts altogether08:35
YukiIkyutaAt least for Japanese.08:35
jack_UIM?08:35
iicaptainLamb is nicer than Ram08:35
YukiIkyutamonkievox, typically the installer will warm you if anything goes amuk.08:35
iicaptainfor eating...08:35
MadpilotCoweater: the System Monitor app on my panel - I've heard that overestimates the RAM in use, but I'm still using masses of it08:35
monkievoxyuki: sure08:35
YukiIkyutajack_, Universal Input Method (?? just a guess!) - for entering foreign languages, eg: 08:35
jack_YukiIkyuta gotcha08:36
monkievoxyuki: i'll give it a whirl, see what happens :)08:36
YukiIkyutamonkievox, good luck!08:36
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chorseYukiIkyuta is insulting us on japanese :)08:36
iicaptainweak...08:37
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Coweaterdepending on how it checks it may appear to use a whole bunch when it isn't actually being used, just cache08:37
YukiIkyutaHah, no.08:37
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chorsejust had a discussion about japanese text input on gnome with a friend some days ago08:37
YukiIkyutaOh?08:38
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chorseYukiIkyuta, he started to teach himself some japanese basics08:39
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YukiIkyutaI see. o_O08:39
YukiIkyutaThe input seems to work fine for me.08:40
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learnfromscratchis there a way do group install like the one in yum group install08:44
nailbiterlearnfromscratch: What's a group install? Installing the same set of packages on a group of computers?08:44
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nailbiterlearnfromscratch: Did you mean 'group of packages'?  Ubuntu has special 'virtual packages' which do roughly the same thing.  'x-window-system' for example, will pull in all the base X11 packages08:46
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dirksonAs a windows refugee, here's a bit of a n00b question: Running ext3, am I going to have to ever 'defrag' my partitions?08:47
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Madpilotdirkson: nope08:48
nailbiterdirkson: 1) Believe it or not, there's no standard ext3 defragger 2) In most cases, fragmentation doesn't hurt performance all that much in ext308:48
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Lockefor some reason my mic won't work on Linux, do i have to do anything special to get it to work08:48
nailbiterdirkson: If you still want to defrag, you can use e2defrag, but will have to convert the filesystem back to ext2 first08:48
YukiIkyutadirkson, ultimately, fragmentation is not a problem you'll ever have to worry about.08:49
ubuntu_just got gnoppix running - Is there a way to make a hard drive install like in knoppix08:49
Madpilotnailbiter: I thought that the journalling stuff that ext3 did removed the need to defrag?08:49
YukiIkyutagnoppix ..?08:49
learnfromscratchhow do i know the number of packages that are there in my apt-get source repositories08:49
nailbiterMadpilot: Journalling doesn't reduce fragmentation at all; it's just a safety feature that logs writes ahead of time08:49
dirksonAll: Cool. Thanks a lot : )  (I was kinda thinking journalling did that myself, actually...)08:49
ubuntu_yki - yes gnoppix08:50
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Madpilotnailbiter: guess this Windows refugee misunderstood that a bit, then ;)08:50
Lockefor some reason my mic won't work on Linux, do i have to do anything special to get it to work08:50
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YukiIkyutaubuntu_, gnoppix + ubuntu?!08:50
nailbiterIf you really need a filesystem that can be defragged online, there's reiser4 and xfs08:51
ubuntu_yes - when i downloaded gnoppix it seams to be ubuntu???08:51
nailbiterLocke: Check the microphone/line-in mixer levels first08:51
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YukiIkyutaThat's quite interesting. oO08:51
YukiIkyutaWell.08:51
YukiIkyutaThat would be due to the fact that gnoppix is based from ubuntu..08:52
Myrtti:-P08:52
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nailbiterLocke: Some sound chipsets can also selectively mute input sources; make sure you've unmuted them in the GNOME mixer applet08:52
dirksonnailbiter: Not really. My boot time is laughably fast now that I've edited the rc.d files and switched to xfce. I've got to say, I really don't understand why xfce isn't more popular.08:52
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janechat2x t b!08:52
YukiIkyutaBut I don't see why you wouldn't just install Ubuntu itself.08:52
janeyou ho!08:52
janereply sad uy!08:52
ubuntu_Well - I like the portablility - although it did take a bit to load up08:52
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janeyak di diay ko08:53
janewhy man di-......08:53
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janeayo!08:53
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YukiIkyutaubuntu_, well, if you want it for its portability then there's no need to install it.08:53
ubuntu_i need to remaster a live cd to use gnucash and gnoppix seems clean enough08:53
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ubuntu_yuki - you are right08:54
YukiIkyutaFast. o_O08:54
dirksonLocke: I had a weird issue with teamspeak and my microphone. I had to turn something called 'igain' up- It's not listed under my alsamixer, but it was listed under whatever the default xfce mixer is.08:54
naliothMyrtti: did anyone suggest the spanish channel?08:54
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ubuntu_i was looking at how clean Beatrix ran when i came up with this idia08:55
learnfromscratchdo i need 1)makedev 2)inetd 3)inetdutils-inetd 4)rsync  ? should i add them  in rcconf ???08:55
MyrttiI would've, if I had recognized that as Spanish08:55
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jack_anyone have suggestions for getting my wireless card working? I've followed a number of different versions of using ndiswrapper to try to do it08:56
monkievoxwhat card?08:56
learnfromscratchjack_:  install wireless-tools08:56
jack_okays08:56
jack_learnfromscratch : thanks08:56
learnfromscratchand check iwconfig if it detects any device.. and u must have 2.6<= kernel08:57
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jack_iwconfig is a command?08:57
naliothjack_: it is08:57
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YukiIkyutaInterface wireless config!08:58
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looksun08:59
learnfromscratchya jack iwconfig is a command similar to ifconfig08:59
learnfromscratchjack_:08:59
linux_n00b_eCan someone please help me.08:59
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naliothlinux_n00b_e: have you asked a question?09:00
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webwolf_27linux_n00b_e, with what?09:00
linux_n00b_eI have changed the permissions and the owner of a file that I need to write to in order to change the icon of an item on my desktop. Yet wheneverI go to change the icon I keep getting an error message saying that I don't have sufficient access to write to the file. What am I doing wrong?09:01
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Madpilotlinux_n00b_e: when you bring up the Properties of the Desktop icon, who owns it?09:01
webwolf_27linux_n00b_e, ls -l path/to/file/name09:01
jack_learnfromscratch : iwconfig just tells me that lo and sit0 have no wireless configurations09:01
naliothlinux_n00b_e: please don't change permissions of more thing than are necessary, what file(s) are you trying to change/write ?09:02
jack_but i will get wireless tools09:02
jack_and seew what i can do09:02
linux_n00b_eThe file is .directory which I guess stores all of the info for things that appear on the desktop....09:02
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webwolf_27linux_n00b_e, in gnome?09:03
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linux_n00b_eI've used chmod and chown to change the permissions and owner of the fike to me, yet I keep getting error messages. No, I'm using KDE....09:03
Madpilotlinux_n00b_e: there's no .directory on my system...09:04
jack_learnfromscratch : I don't see wireless-manager by that exact name, but i have like "Wifi-radar" and "KwifiManager"09:04
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linux_n00b_eIt's a hidden file. You have to enable hidden files to be shown....09:04
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Madpilotlinux_n00b_e: I know, and I don't have one on my Gnome system09:05
_Rappy_Ok, I got a 40GB disk on a laptop. 5GB is used for win (need it to test stuff). THe rest is for Ubuntu. Now, how is the best way to partition it? IE which partitions should I have (/swap /boot /home etc) and how large should each be?09:05
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robotgeekjack_: you need wireless in /etc/network/interfaces09:05
monkievox_Rappy_: hey, i'm doing that right now!09:05
webwolf_27linux_n00b_e, what are the permissions / ownerships set to09:06
MiSS_n001hi im getting this error: gyach: error while loading shared libraries: libltdl.so.3: cannot open shared object file , anyone know hos i can install this libltdl thing?09:06
robotgeekjack_: like "iface eth1/wlan0 inet dhcp09:06
jack_robotgeek : i'm not sure i understand, should i just add text to that file?09:06
robotgeekjack_: do you know what is the name of your wireless interface09:06
linux_n00b_eThe icon that I'm trying to change is the folder that points to my second internal hard drive. The owner of the symbolic link is root.09:06
webwolf_27linux_n00b_e, did you change them only for the dir or did you use -R, what about the parent dir09:06
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monkievoxrappy: you'll have to ask others for more informed opinion, i used partition magic in windows to set up a big root part and a smaller swap part and that's it.09:06
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_Rappy_monkievox :ok :)09:07
webwolf_27linux_n00b_e, root always owns symlinks09:07
linux_n00b_eYou know what, I think that I'm trying to change the wrong thing.....09:07
monkievoxRappy: swap should be 2x or 3x yer system RAM, is what i'm told.09:07
_Rappy_right now I think I got 1GB swap and the rest is just / , but I wonder if there is a better way09:07
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_Rappy_monkievox : that's how much I've figures out too :)09:07
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_Rappy_*figured09:07
webwolf_27linux_n00b_e, that very well may be09:08
linux_n00b_eMaybe instead of trying to change the permissions for the .directory file, maybe I should be changing the permissions for my mount folder of my second internal hard drive....09:08
Kruzaynok, anyone know a good way to shring an NTFS partition that is being stubborn with QT and ntfsresize, it says it can only make another partition of 500mb when i have 7.5 gigs free on the drive.  I just am off a fresh defrag09:08
MiSS_n001how can i get these shared libraries: libltdl.so.309:08
monkievoxrappy: i'm a unix noob, but so far that setup has worked fine fer me :)09:08
Kruzaynshrink*09:08
nailbiterMiSS_n001: That's in the 'libltdl3' package09:08
Tomcat_Kruzayn: Have you done a chkdsk?09:08
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webwolf_27monkievox, the standard setup works well for most09:09
Lockewhats a good voip program?09:09
MiSS_n001i tried $ sudo apt-get install libltdl3 and it doesnt work09:09
Kruzaynahh no i havent.  good idea, any paramaters with it (sry its late im not thinking clear this was my last hope)09:09
jack_robotgeek: the name?  running LSPCI says that is is "broadcom corporation BCM4306"09:09
robotgeekjack_: uggh, you need ndiswrapper09:09
jack_robotgeek: and someone got me the .inf file that necesarry09:09
nailbiterLocke: I've heard gnomemeeting is ok; tried that yet?09:10
jack_robotgeek: yeah i have it09:10
webwolf_27Locke, skype, or kphone, there are several09:10
Lockenailbiter: yes, it's horrible09:10
jack_robotgeek: i tried it a number of times actually09:10
robotgeekjack_: hmm, i'm sorry. i don't have much experience with that09:10
Tomcat_Kruzayn: chkdsk /f (fix errors)09:10
jack_robotgeek: okays, thanks anyways09:10
nailbiterMiSS_n001: What's the error message?09:10
webwolf_27linux_n00b_e, maybe you should mount it as user09:10
Lockewebwolf_27: know of any others?09:10
webwolf_27Locke, check sourceforge, or freshmeat. I've read about a few09:11
MiSS_n001gyach: error while loading shared libraries: libltdl.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory09:11
Kruzaynthanks alot ill give it a try09:11
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linux_n00b_eIf I do that, then whenever I want to add files to it, I'll have to put in my pass. That gets annoying after a while. Heck, I'm the only person that even uses this box.09:11
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Lockei need one thats for Windows AND Linux09:12
webwolf_27Locke, skype09:12
Lockewebwolf_27 i tried skype and it sounded liek crap09:12
W_Nyctea_hi all, i'm on win xp now, is there any other IRC client other than mIRC? is mIRC safe to use?09:12
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webwolf_27Locke, what are you using for the comunication09:12
nailbiterMiSS_n001: If you've installed libltdl3, that shared library would have ended up in /usr/lib. Did the installation fail?09:13
Lockecable09:13
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faizanhey!!09:13
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monkievoxW_Nyctea: try trillian from cerulean studios09:13
MiSS_n001no i just dont know how to install it09:13
webwolf_27W_Nyctea_, gaim works on win09:13
monkievoxhttp://www.ceruleanstudios.com/09:13
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nailbiterMiSS_n001: But you said you ran 'sudo apt-get install libltdl3'. That would have installed it.09:13
faizanwhats a good mp3 player somethin tht plays real media files as well09:13
faizanand looks decent09:13
faizanunlike xmms09:14
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W_Nyctea_monkievox: can it save all the channel that i go into so that i dun have to retype everytime?09:14
MiSS_n001oh yeah that doesnt work tho09:14
webwolf_27Locke, I meant headset, voipphone, speakers+mic ??09:14
MiSS_n001Reading package lists... Done09:14
MiSS_n001Building dependency tree... Done09:14
MiSS_n001E: Couldn't find package libltdl309:14
monkievoxwebwolf: via cygwin? or , uh ... native?09:14
MiSS_n001oops sorry09:14
ardchoilleI downloaded the Ubuntu.ttf font, now how do I install it?09:14
robotgeekfaizan: real media is a fat cry. try beep-media-player09:14
webwolf_27monkievox, native09:14
robotgeeks/fat/far09:14
faizanhad it.. is it any good?09:14
W_Nyctea_webwolf_27: can i save the channel that i visit?09:14
monkievoxW_Nyctea: hmm ... it saves the IRC servers.  i haven't tried saving individual channels09:15
robotgeekfaizan: pretty good, tho i use amarok09:15
faizanamarok kinda sucks on gnome09:15
nailbiterMiSS_n001: 'libltdl3' is in the 'universe' archive; have you added that yet?09:15
MiSS_n001oh09:15
MiSS_n001nope09:15
webwolf_27W_Nyctea_, not sure. I don't use win. and for irc I use XChat09:15
MiSS_n001i'll do it now09:15
monkievoxW_Nyctea: i dunno if GAIM does what you want, but i've seen it a little on linux and it looks pretty sweet09:15
W_Nyctea_thanks for both of you. have you used mIRC as well?09:16
monkievoxyay! my ubuntu just finished installing!09:16
BeleysBjour09:16
webwolf_27W_Nyctea_, It's alot like trillian09:16
monkievoxW_Nyctea: a little. not much09:16
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webwolf_27W_Nyctea_, I avoid closed source09:16
SELVI_huyup09:16
faizanrobotgeek: do u use gnome?09:17
monkievoxW_Nyctea: yea, trillian is free, but CLOSED09:17
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sirexasis there are a way, whant i press on an icon on the gnome toolbar, opened program automaticaly becoms maximized?09:17
W_Nyctea_monkievox & webwolf: thanks09:17
robotgeekfaizan: yes, and a bunch of kde apps09:17
monkievoxW_Nyctea: np :)09:17
webwolf_27W_Nyctea_, np09:17
faizandont the kde stuff give u a hard time09:17
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robotgeekfaizan: it's been wonderful :)09:17
webwolf_27faizan, it shouldn't if the libs are installed right09:18
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faizanwebwolf: you know what libs i must install to run amarok on gnome09:18
monkievoxyes! got my usb mouse working "out of the box"! woo-hoo! so far i'm digging ubuntu!09:19
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monkievoxfriggin suse 1009:19
webwolf_27faizan, apt-get install amarok should install every needed09:19
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webwolf_27monkievox, usb usually isn't a problem on 2.6 kernels09:19
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monkievoxwebwolf_27: yeah, i'm too much a noob to know what was up.  but it was frustrating and decided i'd try other distro's.09:20
monkievoxi'm installing onto an HP laptop. it found the touchpad ok, but didn't detect ANYTHING usb :(09:21
monkievoxsuse didn't, that is09:21
monkievoxubuntu found it all ok09:21
monkievoxhmmm ... still some trouble with the wifi though.09:21
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webwolf_27monkievox, ubuntu is good for noobies, as an expierenced user I only have minor complaints about ubuntu09:21
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barosl^winis there any good tool for mssql?09:21
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webwolf_27monkievox, wireless can be a bit*h in linux09:22
monkievoxwebwolf_27: good for noobs?  cool! :)09:22
linux_n00b_eok, I finally changed the icon. Now what do I need to do in order to get the trashcan to show up on the desktop?09:22
sirexashow can I make, that programs lounched from an icone becomes maximized?09:22
jack_webwolf_27 , monkievox : wiresless IS a bitch09:22
monkievoxwebwolf_27: yeah, suse found the device ok, but just didn't want to connect to my network.09:23
faizan_when i try removing stuff like xmms or gnome games from my machine, it says that ubuntu-desktop must be uninstalled as well.. wht does this mean???09:23
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monkievoxy'all: i've got some kind of broadcom intel 220009:23
faizan_monkie: do you have a dell09:23
insomndhow can i make the gnome main menu transparent like the panel? it just stays white09:23
monkievoxfaizan: hp dv142009:23
linux_n00b_eAnyonw know how to get the trashcan to appear on the desktop?09:24
faizan_okay09:24
faizan_i thought i had intel for the longest time09:24
faizan_but then turned out i had broadcom09:24
faizan_and as soon as i figured that out my wireless worked in a snao09:24
faizan_snap*09:24
faizan_so make sure ur sure of what u have09:25
faizan_and then use ndiswrapper09:25
jack_faizan er...a snap as in how?09:25
faizan_should work fine09:25
jack_faizan argggk!!!09:25
sirexasinsomnd, how you made pannel transparent?09:25
jack_faizan that 'miricle' program seems to work for everyone but me09:25
faizan_jack: what does it say?09:25
jack_er09:25
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jack_faizan i use three or four different commands, and they all work fine09:26
jack_faizan but when i use ndiswrapper -l09:26
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insomndsirexas, properties of panel, then backgrounf, then enabled transparency09:26
jack_(where it should list the working drivers / hardware) it just lists the driver with "driver error!" displayed09:26
faizan_do you know exactly what wireless card u've gon on ur system09:26
insomndsirexas, but the applications menu is still opaque, same with the icons09:26
linux_n00b_eanyone know how to get the trashcon to appear on the desktop?09:26
linux_n00b_e*trashcan09:26
jack_er invaild driver09:26
ardchoillelinux_n00b_e: gconf-editor09:27
monkievoxy'all: whoa. nice lag there. yeah, ubuntu is the same with the wifi. it thinks it's there, but it won't connect. :(09:27
linux_n00b_eWhat's that?09:27
linux_n00b_eAnd I have KDE09:27
faizan_invalid driver09:27
faizan_then maybe u are using the wrong drivers like i did for a while09:27
jack_yeah, but i am pretty sure it is the correct one09:27
jack_hmmm, where would you search for them?09:27
ardchoillelinux_n00b_e: sorry, I thought you meant gnome09:27
faizan_i went on to the dell website and downloaded it off there09:27
jack_and how did you discover what your hardware was?09:28
sirexasinsomnd, thanks, those icons must bu like gif images with tranparent background too09:28
jack_because i use the command lspci09:28
faizan_do u have a notebook??09:28
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gilothhello everyone! :)09:29
linux_n00b_eAnybody using KDE know how to get the trashcan to appear on the desktop?09:29
monkievoxfaizan: i'm just going witt whataver default install is telling me right now.  back with suse i tried digging around ... downloading drivers and using ndiswrapper ... couldn't get it working on suse. i guess i'll try the same with ubuntu :)09:29
gilothlinux_n00b_e, i know how to on gnome09:29
gilothmight be similar09:29
linux_n00b_ehello giloth09:29
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linux_n00b_eHow did you do it?09:29
jack_faizan : it's an IBM made computer, 900mhz from a number of years ago, it's from the time when it came prel-loaded with windows ME09:29
jack_*shudder*09:29
faizan_haha09:29
faizan_okay09:29
gilothin gnome anyway, you click on Applications > System Tools > Configuation Editor09:29
linux_n00b_elol @ jack_09:29
faizan_mine came preloaded with xo09:29
faizan_xp09:29
jack_XP is a "working" OS09:30
faizan_but i threw the cd out the window the first day and installed ubuntu09:30
jack_ME is just a picture of an operating system taped to the screen09:30
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gilothexpand apps > nautilus > and click on desktop09:30
faizan_yea well if you dont mind all the crashes and insecurity09:30
linux_n00b_elol@ faizan_09:30
gilothand enable trash_can_visable09:30
faizan_and if you dont hate microsoft like i do09:30
gilothtell me if it works for you :)09:30
linux_n00b_eLet me see if KDE has something similar....09:30
linux_n00b_ethanks giloth09:31
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gilothnp - hope it works09:31
ardchoillelinux_n00b_e: it might be in kcontrol09:31
jack_faizan notice my use of quotes around "working"09:31
ardchoillein the "Appearance" section09:31
sethkgiloth, I don't hate microsoft, as long as I don't have to use their stuff.09:31
jack_:P09:31
faizan_haha i did09:31
gilothsethk, didn't say you did :p09:31
insomndjack_, xp is not really an os09:31
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faizan_sethk i hate microsoft cause its causing a lot of damage to the computing world09:32
insomndjack_, more like a really big bloated program09:32
jack_hahaha yes exactly09:32
faizan_but fear not, google will do to microsoft what microsoft did to ibm09:32
faizan_haha09:32
faizan_lol09:32
jack_insomnd it's like a dinosaur strapped with cool tech equipment09:32
sethkfaizan, someone will, eventually, but not google09:32
jack_no matter how fast it's mp3 player is, it's still so dumb it has a brain in it's tail09:32
faizan_well im ready to place all my money on google09:32
sethkfaizan, and if google by some chance does, I'll just change my nick   :)09:33
gilothi'd like a google os - i'd always know where my files were09:33
ardchoillelol09:33
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faizan_google is in a better position to cause tht damage than any other corporate or person in history09:33
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monkievoxyou really think google would try their hands at an os?09:33
testhello09:33
gilothwhy not? they've done about everything else so far09:33
faizan_i think they are working at it09:33
faizan_why else do you think microsoft is so freaked out09:33
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monkievoxMS is freaked because they can't get any damn good engineers cuz google steals them!09:34
Kadumatalatahello09:34
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faizan_they just settled their lawsuit against sun cause they need to concentrate on the competition with google09:34
insomndpeace love and happiness... To John Lennon09:34
monkievoxMS is more freaked about linux/mac than google, i rekon09:34
ardchoilleM$ is freaked out because their perfect little world is falling apart around them and there's nothing they can do about it.09:34
gilothhaha09:34
faizan_haha09:34
faizan_see09:34
faizan_google is whats making microsofts fears come true09:34
monkievoxMS is freaked because NOBODY LOVES THEM ANYMORE :)09:35
Madpilotardchoille: they can throw chairs ;)09:35
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ardchoilleMadpilot: lol09:35
monkievoxthey're not the golden child they were in the 80s09:35
faizan_anyone heard about google endorsing openoffice09:35
nailbiterfaizan_: They're funding OpenOffice development, yes09:35
faizan_thats the kinda stuff that scares microsoft09:35
Fivestar09:35
nailbiterfaizan_: They're also funding a whole pile of other open source projects (via their Summer of Code program)09:35
monkievoxah yes, but that's not OS stuff09:35
faizan_cause when openoffice has the word google anywhere near it09:35
faizan_its gonna be bigger than it ever could09:36
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monkievoxi agree with that09:36
jack_well it's the first step though, right?09:36
jack_anyways09:36
monkievoxput a good brand name on openoffice, then people will start adopting it like gangbusters09:36
faizan_i personally think that google's working towards a web based os09:36
gilothhey, has anyone else had ati issues? (dumb question) i've tried the guide on the forums and read through the discussion, but when the drivers are running and i start up gnome, it seems like the gamma and/or brightness are in crazymode... anyone else experienced this? also, i did a info on it and it said the correct drivers were working (in otherwords, did not say mesa)09:36
redeye420every one person that uses open office takes 200$ from bill gaytes kids :P09:36
jack_where would i look for the .inf files for my wireless card?09:36
gilothi hate the openoffice names, they are too bland09:36
jack_all i seem to get is the installer EXE o_O09:36
nailbiterOpenOffice is probably much too difficult to turn into an Ajax/Web 2.0 application; I'm willing to bet that Google will instead buy out startups working on web-only office suites sometime soon09:37
StrikeHere's the trick:  Somebody needs to track down some terrorists, and explain to them how great microsoft is because its the symbol of capitolism in this country.  Would be amusing to count the hours until the boom09:37
ishit_i tried to open audacity but got an error sayin could not initialize due to error in i/o device09:37
faizan_sweet09:37
faizan_no09:37
faizan_i think09:37
Strikethough i know thats a little sadistic09:37
faizan_they'll integrate it09:37
monkievoxit would be lame to put an office app into a web app that you host like a service09:37
redeye420lol @ strike!!09:37
faizan_well09:37
faizan_microsofts doing it09:37
nailbiterAnd I don't think Microsoft isn't in any danger. :)  They've got over $40B in cash reserves.  That's more than enough to buy many third world nations outright09:37
faizan_monkie havent you heard of microsoft live09:37
monkievoxmoney doesn't make you survive, just last long, drag out your downfall09:38
ishit_anyone wat to put as input and output device to run audacity09:38
gilothyeah, can you imagine.. ms buys a country and names it Windows Land09:38
Strike- the spelling error ofc.09:38
jack_hjahaha09:38
nailbiterMicrosoft could cease all operations and sales as of tomorrow, keep everyone on the payroll for the next ten years and still not come close to making a dent in that $40B warchest.  That's how much of a buffer they have against defeat09:38
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faizan_if anything is an indication of msfts fear of google, its windows live09:38
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faizan_but nailbiter09:38
Madpiloteveryone - #ubuntu-offtopic exists for discussion of MS and other oddities...09:39
gilothanyone have some kind of an answer to my question about?09:39
gilothabove*09:39
monkievoxms is gonna die regardless what they try to do09:39
faizan_its not going too well for them at the moment09:39
fangorioushow do I change the background color displayed behind the splash screen after logging in (gnome/gdm)?09:39
monkievoxjust gonna be slow09:39
faizan_google's digging them slowly and steadily09:39
ishit_helllloooo any help with audacity i/o devices09:39
faizan_anyways09:39
monkievoxMadpilot: sorry so much offtopic nonsense09:39
ardchoillenailbiter: all the money in the world won't help you if your users start switching from you rproduct to the competition.. and I see people switching to Linux everyday09:39
faizan_i gtg09:39
faizan_pecac out people09:39
jack_okays09:39
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CarinArrgiloth, what was the question09:40
gilothardchoille, and switching back to windows a lot of the times sadly...09:40
gilothhey, has anyone else had ati issues? (dumb question) i've tried the guide on the forums and read through the discussion, but when the drivers are running and i start up gnome, it seems like the gamma and/or brightness are in crazymode... anyone else experienced this? also, i did a info on it and it said the correct drivers were working (in otherwords, did not say mesa)09:40
Kadumatalatajaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa09:40
nailbitermonkievox: It could take a very very long time. SGI, for example, crashed in the late 90s and never really recovered. But they're still around, and will likely be around for decades because of long-term support contracts with government agencies09:40
CarinArrwhat drivers? nvidia/ati?09:40
CarinArroh sorry09:40
CarinArrati09:40
CarinArrheh09:40
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gilothdid you not see the ati part ;)09:40
CarinArrsorry.. dunno bout ati:/09:40
ardchoillelol09:40
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gilothi've seen posts in the forums about the same issue, but nobody has seemed to figure it out... or atleast post the solution09:41
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fangoriousanyone? change the background color displayed after logging in with gdm but before your desktop is loaded (behind the splash screen)?09:43
chaumurkythat's gdm setup09:44
chaumurkySystem->Administration->Login Screen Setup09:44
fangoriouscool, thanks09:45
monkievoxall right y'all.  thanks fer yer help and lively conversation.  good night!09:45
chaumurkyGTK+ Greeter Tab09:45
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ardchoilleThis is one great channel. Who started this channel?09:45
jack_ME09:45
jack_jk09:45
sethkardchoille, microsoft   :)09:45
chaumurkyyeah, jack09:45
jack_chaumurky lo..09:46
ardchoilleDid Seveas start this channel?09:46
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naliothardchoille: jdub did09:46
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ardchoillenalioth: well, I'll have to thank jdub09:46
ardchoille:)09:46
chaumurkya channel's nothing without it's guests...09:47
ardchoillewell, that's true09:47
chaumurkyyou're welcom... LOL!!09:47
naliothardchoille: why not thank mark shuttlesworth, also for allowing us Ubuntu ?09:47
ardchoillelol09:47
Strikewoot - just got the about chan from a 45 week idle user, though dunno if anybody'll use it or not09:47
StrikeUbuntu is a godsend :-)09:47
chaumurkyor Ian Murdock09:47
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ardchoillenalioth: Great idea09:47
ardchoilleIan Murdock?09:48
ardchoilleoh, right.09:48
MadpilotIan Murdock started Debian09:48
ardchoilleyeah09:48
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chaumurkyor Linus...09:48
chaumurky;-)09:48
ardchoillegeez.. my xmas card list just grew exponentially09:49
ardchoillelol09:49
chaumurkyecards are free09:49
chaumurkywell, some are...09:49
ardchoilleand Madpilot, for the wiki?09:49
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CarinArralthough, none of us would have these problems if it weren't for those people09:49
CarinArr;)09:49
CarinArrnot considering the alternative obviously09:50
chaumurkyYeah, I'd be a MS Zommmbieeeee,,,,,09:50
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Technobabblecan anyone point me the direction i might look to understand how services are managed in ubuntu?09:56
Madpilotardchoille: sorry, what about the wiki?09:56
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ardchoilleMadpilot: Aren't you the maintainer?09:57
MadpilotDog, no.09:57
ardchoilleoh, my bad09:57
gilothwow - fixed that ati problem pretty quick... viewed the bugzilla and it was listed... it only happens when you have the tv-out connector hooked up when you boot into it09:57
MadpilotI just do bits and pieces on the wiki, there's a lot of us ;)09:58
ardchoilleah, ok09:58
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ardchoillewell, the community that supports Ubuntu is simply amazing.. seriously.09:58
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gilothardchoille, no kidding :p09:59
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gilothardchoille, i went to the forums and saw around 800 online when i first started using it.. my jaw dropped09:59
ardchoille:)09:59
emanuelez_hello... is there a way to swich from ubuntu to kubuntu?10:00
Technobabblecan any of you guys point me to the part of the manual that describes how services are handled?10:00
Technobabblei can't seem to find it10:00
gilothmind if i ask a question here that i originally asked in the forums without a response?10:00
gilothi'll take that as a yes'm ;)10:01
gilothI was curious if it's possible to take the 'New Login' shortcut under Applications > System Tools > New Login and make it an option under the Log Out screen.10:01
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blue-frogTechnobabble, what do u mean by how services are handled?10:03
Technobabblewell, on my fedora box, i type "services list"10:03
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Technobabbleand i see a list of running services and such10:03
kestaswhy are USB devices addressed as SCSI in *nix?10:04
Technobabbleand my "ls /etc/rc.d/init.d" shows the names of the services10:04
Technobabblebut apparently ubuntu doesn't handle it the same way10:04
MadpilotTechnobabble: try "top"10:04
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kestasmakes no sense10:04
Madpilotkestas: some legacy thing; my BIOS lumps SCSI & SATA together, I noticed10:05
blue-frogTechnobabble, that's a redhat thing indeed, services are under /etc/init.d, u also have system > administration > services, and applications > system tools > system monitor10:05
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kestasMadpilot, but linux doesnt use the BIOS right? I dont get it10:06
cornjobi prefer regular xterm to gnome-terminal; however, when I go "System | Preferences | Preferred Applications | Terminal", and change from Gnome-Terminal to Xterm, it still brings up a Gnome Term?10:06
Technobabbleblue-frog, tyvm10:06
Technobabblefor some reason applications > system tools > system monitor doesn't accept my root password10:06
cornjobit don't do this on redhat/fedora/centos or in FreeBSD gnome!10:06
Technobabblebut i'll work around it10:06
Madpilotkestas: it's all legacy stuff, that's all I meant10:07
blue-frogTechnobabble, does any other apps launch when u click on them? (such as synaptic..)10:07
Technobabblenope10:07
blue-frogTechnobabble, the password asked is your password10:07
MadpilotTechnobabble: use your actual user pw10:07
Technobabbleoh10:07
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MadpilotTechnobabble: Ubuntu uses sudo10:08
Madpilot!tell Technobabble about sudo10:08
Technobabblei've already got sudo up here10:08
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Technobabblei ran into it a bunch in the manual, so i looked it up10:08
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wolverianhm, dapper nm-applet crashes on me.10:11
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Decadenti've downloaded a movie but its in .ratdvd format how can i see that movie??10:13
desplesdaDecadent:  go to a terminal and run "file your-movie.ratdvd"10:13
Technobabblenever heard of a ratdvd10:13
Technobabbleis there a way to display services-admin from the CLI?10:14
desplesdaTechnobabble:  what, with no X server running?10:15
Technobabbleyeah10:15
Technobabblelike when you do a server install10:15
desplesdahmm10:15
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n1nj4-TaNtenhi10:15
n1nj4-TaNtenhow do u check if your net card does work10:15
n1nj4-TaNtenif it has been initialized10:15
n1nj4-TaNten?10:15
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[Jonne] decadent: i think ratdvd is a windows only thing10:16
blue-frogTechnobabble, like ps x or it anything eles you look for?10:16
Myrttiping  127.0.0.110:16
Decadentim afraid you are right10:16
[Jonne] http://www.ratdvd.dk/10:16
Madpilotn1nj4-TaNten: Systems menu -> Admin -> Networking (when it asks for a password, use your own user pw)10:16
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Decadentok thanks [Jonne] 10:17
n1nj4-TaNtenokay not so fast, i only have debian console installed10:17
n1nj4-TaNtenso i have to type something10:17
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n1nj4-TaNteni can login as root or as me10:17
Technobabblethanks guys10:18
Technobabbleit's just not the same as redhat, apparently10:18
Technobabblebut that's okay10:18
blue-frogTechnobabble, it takes not long to get used to it, coming from fedora took me not long to get accustomed. ubuntu sticks more to what u find in linux manuals the redhat so inb the end it becomes easier10:19
Gorgonzolacould someone who solved the problem of Azureus no longer working after upgrade from Hoary to Breezy please have a quick look at this thread http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=55446710:19
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Technobabbleblue-frog, i'm glad, i'll definately stick to this for a while10:19
n1nj4-TaNtenMadpilot suggestions?10:19
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Madpilotn1nj4-TaNten: sorry, I'm pretty much a desktop user...10:22
n1nj4-TaNtenhehe okay10:22
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QRZn1nj4-TaNten:  Do you have an entry for it in /etc/network/interfaces?10:24
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Madpilotn1nj4-TaNten: doesn't "ifconfig" work/10:25
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ale3hshello guys, does anyone know a dc++ client for Ubuntu??10:26
Technobabbleubuntu doesn't use rpms?10:26
MadpilotTechnobabble: deb10:27
blue-frogTechnobabble, no apt-get10:27
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Technobabblethat means in order to get something, i have to add a new repository, correct?10:27
HatredTechnobabble rpm stands for redhat package manager... ubuntu is based on debian..10:27
Technobabblegotcha10:27
MadpilotTechnobabble: maybe, it depends on what you want10:28
Madpilot!tell Technobabble about sourcees10:28
Madpilot!tell Technobabble about sources10:28
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TechnobabbleSynergy from synergy2.sourceforge.net10:28
Madpilot... spelling counts...10:28
blue-frogTechnobabble, form the "normal" ubuntu repository u get much more than from the rpm repo. and u don't have to fiddle to know if you're going to use dag, or fresh or news repo10:28
nichevocan anyone tell me how to get SU???10:28
ale3hsa DC++ client somebody plz??10:28
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dpuppcould someone help me find out why my usb drive will no longer auto mount? i cant find it under /media/ nor under /mnt/10:29
Hatredif you want to install rpms in ubuntu, i believe there's a package called "alien".. solving the dependency issues is left as an exercise for the administrator ;)10:29
nichevocan anyone tell me how to get SU??? I can't edit a file10:29
Madpilotnichevo: use sudo and your own user pw10:29
Technobabbleno thanks10:29
Technobabblei hate dependency hell10:29
nichevothanks10:29
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polk_sudo passwd root10:30
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MyrttiI wouldn't recommend that10:30
polk_then enter your 1st accounts password and type in the new password.10:30
adrian__Hi, everyone!10:30
dpuppi booted into windows to copy some files over to my external usb drive, and when i booted back into linux, the drive is not automounting. Could someone help me trouble shoot this? i dont know where to start.10:30
blue-frognichevo, sudo vi file10:31
frogzoodpupp: pastebin /etc/fstab & the result from 'mount'10:31
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polk_dpupp, did you try taking out the USB drive and plugging it in?10:31
adrian__newbee here: can anyone help me with a printer driver for a Canon i250?10:31
Madpilot!printer10:31
ubotuhmm... printer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org10:31
dpuppBRB.10:32
Madpilotadrian__: see ubotu above ^^^10:32
frogzoodpupp: nm - its the usb giving you trouble - not an fstab problem10:32
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ale3hsguys ..how install DC++ ??10:33
Technobabbleblue-frog, may i /msg you real quick?10:33
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blue-frogok10:33
_Rappy_how much space should I give the partition mounting boot?10:33
dpuppfrogzoo, http://pastebin.com/45377210:33
polk_100 megabytes max,10:33
adrian__I've tried the one on the NZ canon site but it errored on compiling10:34
ekoihi. i've apt-get install'ed openbox. how do i switch it to the default window manager instead of gnome?10:34
Technobabbleuh oh, i have to register first10:34
frogzoo_Rappy_: if youre only putting the kernel on it, ie /boot - 1 meg is plenty10:34
dpupppolk_ yes i did unplug and replug.10:34
blue-frogTechnobabble, go on10:34
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Technobabblewell i'm going to use synergy, which may be found at http://synergy2.sourceforge.net10:34
adrian__anyone who is actually using this particular printer?10:34
ulinskie wanna ask where I can edit this PKG_CONFIG_PATH10:34
dpupppolk_, i tried in different ports......10:34
Technobabbleand the binaries are for redhat, and windows10:34
jack_EGADS10:34
polk_did you have the USB plugged in when you booted10:34
Technobabbleso i would have to compile from source?10:34
jack_the burned CDs from my macs with the esential files do not show up at all!10:35
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jack_after one and a regular CD did work10:35
android_does anyone know how to change charset?10:35
jack_WTF is going on?10:35
dpupppolk_, yes.  also, i plug it into my laptoop and it automounts... but not on my desktop10:35
_Rappy_frogzoo: talk newbie to me please :)10:35
frogzoo_Rappy_: if youre a newby - best off to let the install allocate space 4 u10:35
blue-frogTechnobabble, enable universe and multiverse repo in synaptic, synergy is in there10:35
polk_do you have more then one usb port? If so try plugging in the USB device in a different connector.10:36
_Rappy_frogzoo: but how I am supposed to learn then :)10:36
Technobabbleokay, i think i know how to do that already10:36
dpuppshould i reboot without usb in?10:36
blue-frogTechnobabble, sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list10:36
frogzoodpupp: give it a go - sure10:36
dpuppbrb.10:36
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frogzoo_Rappy_: its better to get a feel for how the different file systems are used first imo10:37
blue-frogTechnobabble, deb http://blah-blah.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse10:37
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frogzoo_Rappy_: then you have a better understanding how much space is needed10:38
_Rappy_well, a du -m boot/on this machine tells me it's using about 46 megs10:38
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cozhello all10:38
cozis anyone here familiar with layla24?10:39
_Rappy_but I wonder if it may ned more in the future10:39
blue-frogTechnobabble, the sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get install synergy10:39
Technobabblefor some reason sudo never accepts any passwords10:39
frogzoo_Rappy_: yar, my 1meg was a bit lame - 100meg sounds a better idea10:39
Technobabblemy current users password, or root10:40
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Technobabblei even do an sudo -u root <whatever>10:40
Technobabbleit asks for a password, then denies10:40
Badm4nhello .... why my iptables rule always restart ? i have already type iptables-save ( ubuntu 5.10 )10:40
blue-frogTechnobabble, did u do a server install or normal install10:40
Technobabblenormal10:40
blue-frogTechnobabble, id10:40
Technobabblei'm in konsole10:40
blue-frogTechnobabble, what   id   sends u back?10:41
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Technobabbleuid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)10:41
MadpilotTechnobabble: by default, whenever Ubuntu asks for a pw, it's using sudo and wants your regular users pw10:41
Badm4nhello .... why my iptables rule always restart ? i have already type iptables-save ( ubuntu 5.10 )10:41
blue-frogTechnobabble, then no need for sudo10:41
ale3hshello people, I want to install dc++, please somebody tell me how??10:41
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Technobabblek10:42
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blue-frogTechnobabble, though sudo should work as well normally as root is in the sudoers file...10:42
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blue-frogTechnobabble, oh but yes, if root has no password it won't work10:43
nailbiterBadm4n: That's because Ubuntu doesn't supply a /etc/init.d/iptables to restore your rules at boot time10:43
Technobabbleroot has one, that's for sure10:43
Technobabblei wasn't logged in as root, so that was strange10:43
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Technobabblebut i restarted X and it id's correctly now10:43
nailbiterale3hs: A DC++ hub or a client?10:43
blue-frogTechnobabble, hum uight have been in recovery mode?10:44
ale3hsnailbiter, client10:44
dpuppno dice.  i rebooted without the drive on the usb port, i pluged it back in, and it still wont mount.10:44
blue-frogTechnobabble, hum u might have been in recovery mode?10:44
dpuppim sure the drive is working ok as my other machines can read it.10:44
Badm4nnailbiter, so i must del /etc/inint.d/iptables ?10:44
nailbiterale3hs: Try 'dcgui'?  The interface is _horrible_, but it works reasonably well10:44
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nailbiterBadm4n: No, Ubuntu doesn't supply one, so you have to steal a copy from Debian  :)10:45
dpuppi look under media and see only cdrom0 and cdrom1, no XSDRIVE as usually was there.10:45
ale3hsnailbiter, I will try, but is this the only choice I got??10:45
Badm4nanyone have it ?10:45
Badm4nplease10:45
nailbiterale3hs: Do a 'apt-cache search "direct connect"' to see what DC++ clients are available. :)10:45
nailbiterBadm4n: Well, you can have my copy. ;-) DCC?10:45
Badm4nhmmm10:46
Badm4nbetter if you sent to mail ?10:46
Badm4nherowar@gmail.com10:46
ale3hsnailbiter, thanx, I installed dcgui to check it first10:46
polk_sudo apt-get install slrn E: Couldn't find package slrn What do I have to do to get apt-get to retreive packages from the Internet? URL?10:46
nailbiterBadm4n: Alright10:47
Badm4nthx b410:47
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_Rappy_ok, /boot is set to 100MB /swap to 1GB now how much for / ? (I'll allocate the remaining to /home(?))10:47
dpuppback to the forums i go :)10:47
Badm4nnailbiter,10:47
nailbiterpolk_: It's in the 'universe' archive. Add that to your list of sources first10:47
Badm4ncan you sent me too about blocking the port10:47
Badm4nso my client only can use 80 and 44310:47
humeanyone knows how to convert pdf-files to text, to make them transferable to a palm?10:47
polk_where do I add that at?10:48
nailbiterBadm4n: Do you just need port-blocking? Or do you have a whole lot of other custom rules as well?10:48
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nailbiterBadm4n: If it's just port-blocking, install 'ipmasq'. ;-) It's a lot easier that way10:48
chorsehume, poppler-utils and xpdf-utils have a pdf2text tool10:48
nailbiterpolk_: You can either edit /etc/apt/sources.list or you can run "Add programs" in your Gnome menu10:49
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nailbiterpolk_: I mean "Add Applications". :)10:49
polk_ok nailbiter TKS10:49
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Badm4nnailbiter, i need iptables rule like http://www.sat-c.net/server/iptables.txt and i need block some port and allow port 80 and 443 only10:50
nailbiterBadm4n: 'ipmasq' sets all of that up automatically. :) It also throws in some anti-spoofing rules too10:50
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adrian__hey guys! HEEEEEEEELP! Can't find a compatible driver for a canon i250. Is there anyone out there who is using this particular printer or who knows someone who has solved this?10:50
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nailbiteradrian__: Try linuxprinting.org first--they have a big compatibility database10:51
adrian__been there. But I'l look again...10:52
frogzooadrian__: try something that looks close - usually it will work10:52
adrian__who knows...10:52
adrian__I've tried about 15 of them so far...,10:52
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adrian__I've tried compiling the one on the NZ canon site10:52
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adrian__it errored10:52
frogzooadrian__: you should just be able to go into configure printer & pick something close - what doesnt work?10:53
adrian__i've tried the BJCs10:53
adrian__the Ss10:54
adrian__aso10:54
frogzooadrian__: any ixxx ?10:54
adrian__there is none listed10:54
W_Nyctea_hi, is Scribus only for linux and mac? no windows version?10:54
MadpilotW_Nyctea_: so far, yes10:54
adrian__there is just a compatibility list on wiki support10:54
frogzooadrian__: very new printer? or very old?10:54
W_Nyctea_madpilot: thanks, coz i'm thinking to join the art team in the future10:55
bauttwhat is the right place to provide module load arguments? (for example I need to run "/sbin/modprobe usbserial vendor=0x0af0 product=0x6300" every time before I insert my UMTS card)10:55
adrian__and it lists i455, 550, 850 860. None of them work for mine10:55
adrian__frog: I guess it's too old... I don't know...10:55
frogzoobautt:  you want to put them under, iirc /etc/modprobe/DRIVERNAME - check man modprobe maybe?10:56
Madpilotlater, all - need sleep10:56
nmsa_workhi, someone using moinmoin? my site is up, but when I save a file is slow, any changes take a few good minutes, but preview is quick. it's python powered and I wonder is can tweak a bit; anyone had this issue?10:56
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rem_Which one should I use if I want a NFS server  nfs-kernel-server or nfs-user-server ... ?10:56
nailbiterBadm4n: Put 'usbserial vendor=0x0af0 product=0x6300' in /etc/modules. It'll force the module to load very early on at boot time10:57
bauttfrogzoo, you mean /etc/modprobe.d/DRIVERNAME10:57
nailbiterbautt: Put 'usbserial vendor=0x0af0 product=0x6300' in /etc/modules. It'll force the module to load very early on at boot time10:57
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Mirza___sorry DC10:57
nailbiterBadm4n: Sorry, wrong guy  :P)10:57
frogzoobautt: yup, looks good10:57
Mirza___nailbiter Badm4n: 'ipmasq' sets all of that up automatically. :) It also throws in some anti-spoofing rules too <--- apt-get install ipmasq ?10:57
Badm4nnailbiter Badm4n: 'ipmasq' sets all of that up automatically. :) It also throws in some anti-spoofing rules too <--- apt-get install ipmasq ?10:57
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rem_whats the diff ?10:57
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nailbiterMirza___: That's right10:57
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Badm4nznailbiter, sorry i got dc10:57
bauttnailbiter, I though /etc/modules contains only module names, does it takes arguments?10:58
frogzooadrian__: if theres source for the driver - someone's got it to work10:58
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Badm4nznailbiter, so what you suggest to me10:58
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nailbiterbautt: Yes, they take arguments10:58
Badm4nz1. i want to use sat-c.net/server/iptables.txt10:58
nailbiterBadm4nz: sudo apt-get install ipmasq10:58
bauttnailbiter, frogzoo Thanks!10:58
Badm4nz2. port blocking only open 80 and 44310:58
rem_Which one should I use if I want a NFS server  nfs-kernel-server or nfs-user-server ... ?10:58
Badm4nznailbiter,  allrite10:58
rem_whats the diff ?10:58
Badm4nzand about the iptables rule ?10:58
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humechorse, if I am to convert some 30 files in one folder, you know how to do this at once? batch convert?10:59
Zeep[?]  Is it possible to use the KDE Printing dialogue within OpenOffice? OOs Printing dialogue lacks some features I sometimes need. Thanks!10:59
humeZeep, yes10:59
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iDo-NeedAideACPIHello world :p10:59
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humeZeep, in OO printer admin, choose properties for you printer and put kprinter there10:59
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iDo-NeedAideACPIDoes anyone can help me with a battery problem ?11:00
nailbiterBadm4nz: After installation, if you want to set which ports are blocked, copy /usr/share/doc/ipmasq/examples/stronger/A80firewall.def to /etc/ipmasq/rules and edit that file (it'll also let you choose whether you want 'stealth' blocking or not)11:00
WILLEMHMMM... PHP5-MYSQL-5.0.5-2  is compiled agains libmysqlclient12 whereas php5-mysql-5.0.5-3 is compiled against libmysqlclient14... any chance 5.0.5-3 is being implemented in breezy soon ?11:00
Zeephume: Thank you very much!11:00
frogzoobautt: /etc/modules is deprecated - use /etc/modprobe.d11:00
humeZeep, should work11:00
chorsehume, find *.pdf -exec pdftotext {} \;11:01
nailbiterWILLEM: You'll either need to wait for 'dapper', a backport to breezy, or build your own copy of php5-mysql. :) The last option is what I did11:01
humechorse, wow..:)11:01
Zeephume: Do you know where I can find this setting in the options menu?11:01
humechorse, thanks a lot...!!11:01
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humeZeep, no, not options, close all OO applications and look for OO printer admin i Gnome/Kde menu, under System or Settings11:02
simon__khello11:02
chorsehume, np :)11:02
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WILLEMNailbiter: but that would probably mean I'd have to compile/install the entire php-5.0.5-3 distribution (including ALL necessary libraries) ?11:03
nailbiterWILLEM: Yup. ;-) Got some CPU cycles to spare?11:03
Zeephume: Hm, I don't seem to have it in my K-Menu. Maybe you can tell me how the program is namend?11:04
Badm4nznailbiter, complicated rules :D i need the simple one or may be you can teach me which part that i must edit11:04
nailbiterWILLEM: If you don't want to contaminate your production system by installing a whole pile of packages, do it in a debootstrap11:04
humechorse, when you are not that used to shell scripting those small scripts seem like magic...would have taken me hours to look it up11:04
=== Badm4nz eth0= Broadcast IP
Badm4nzeth1= LAN GATeway11:04
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Badm4nzeth1 ip = 192.168.1.25411:04
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Badm4nzeth0 ip = 192.168.0.10011:04
WILLEMNailbiter: well, the cpu-cycles aren't the problem, problem is I will be out of sync ewith the main distribution and will have to patch/compile from here on all the time (that's not why I installed ubuntu on the server)11:04
humeZeep, oopadmin11:04
Inf3ctedFxHello everyone11:04
nailbiterBadm4nz: ipmasq figures out which one is your gateway. Just edit the 'EXTERNAL_TCP_ALLOW' line in A80firewall.def to set which incoming ports you want to allow; everything else will be blocked11:05
W_Nyctea_hi11:05
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Zeephume: Hm, couldn't find anything named like that - are you using OO2 or OO1?11:05
W_Nyctea_guys and gals, how do you normally upgrade latest version? re-install or just patch up?11:06
nailbiterWILLEM: A custom 'php5-mysql' package can be slightly out of step with the rest of your php5 packages11:06
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chorsehume, oh well, it's quite simple, the -exec just executes the action once per pdf file, {} is substituted by the file name11:06
Badm4nznailbiter, i pv u cause its look little buzy here :D11:06
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Inf3ctedFxlike always I have a question lol, I'm trying to install E17, i'm runing breezy  i'm following the instructions on: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79155&highlight=e17, but when I get to the point to download enlightenment I got an error message11:06
diubidonehey all whats an rss reader for xfce?11:06
WILLEMNailbiter: thanks for the suggestions, will try (and google on debootstrap :))11:06
humechorse, easy when you know, you know....:)..ask me about psychology anytime, that's my major subject..:)11:07
nailbiterW_Nyctea_: Upgrading in place (with 'apt-get dist-upgrade') works most of the time. :) But it does break sometimes and can require some package-fu to fix11:07
Badm4nzEXTERNAL_TCP_ALLOW="1:80"11:08
Badm4nzEXTERNAL_TCP_ALLOW="2:443"11:08
Badm4nznailbiter, like that ?11:08
Badm4nzcreate 2 line ?11:08
nailbiterBadm4nz: No, just one line. :) EXTERNAL_TCP_ALLOW="80 443"11:08
chorsehume, no need, i know that i'm a weirdo :)11:08
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nailbiterBadm4nz: 1:80 means _all_ ports from 1 to 80.11:08
Badm4nzneed resetart system ?11:09
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Badm4nznailbiter, i c11:09
W_Nyctea_nailbiter: tahnks for the info, it's quite hard to understand, I'm newbie. But I'll try to learn more along the way as i know now that dun actually have to re-install everytime11:09
nailbiterBadm4nz: No need. :) Just do '/etc/init.d/ipmasq start'11:09
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Inf3ctedFxany idea?11:10
Badm4nznailbiter, how to see is my rule work or not11:10
nailbiterW_Nyctea_: It's not really your fault if the upgrade breaks. :) Blame the package maintainers11:10
nailbiterBadm4nz: Get someone to try hack you?11:10
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Badm4nz:p11:10
diubidonehey all whats an rss reader for xfce?11:10
Badm4nzlol11:10
Badm4nzbad idea11:10
humechorse, you wanna know the DSM diagnosis code for that....?..:)11:10
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Badm4nznailbiter, is my iptables will work with ipmassq ?11:10
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W_Nyctea_anyone of you are in the ART TEAM?11:11
mykehello11:11
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Gambit---hey chaps11:11
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mykei updated my firefox yeturday and now it will nit open11:11
mykei get a erro11:12
ammarhi11:12
ammarmyke11:12
ammarhow are you11:12
mykeso if i add the file it says im missing will it fix it?11:12
mykegood ammar11:12
mykeyou?>11:12
nailbiterBadm4nz: No, ipmasq will override any iptables rules. If you want to add your own custom rules on top of this port blocking stuff, put them in /etc/ipmasq/rules/I00chain.rul11:12
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ammarthis is my first time here in x-chat11:13
mykeammar well welcome and have fun11:13
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ammarand also im still newe in linux11:13
mykeme to11:13
ammarthank you11:13
Badm4nznailbiter, is that will work with my sat-c.net/server/iptables.txt ?11:13
mykenp11:13
ammaroh good then11:13
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Inf3ctedFxdoes anyone have an idea how to install E17 runing breezy?11:13
mykeno11:13
ammarnop11:14
nailbiterBadm4nz: You don't need those rules anymore--ipmasq already does those and more!11:14
Gambit---this is a stupid question, but how do I get the headers installed for gcc?  I installed the g++ package, but I'm not sure what to look for next11:14
nailbiterBadm4nz: The '-j MASQUERADE' line was supposed to turn on masquerading (or "Internet Connection Sharing", as Apple and Microsoft call it). 'ipmasq' does this by default, so you don't need that anymore11:15
Badm4nzi c11:15
nailbiterGambit---: gcc is just the compiler. If you mean the C library headers needed for building programs, they're in 'libc6-dev'.11:15
Gambit---nailbiter, right, strange, ok11:15
nailbiterGambit---: I'd recommend installing the "build-essential" virtual package to pull in all the base packages needed to build stuff (like 'make' and 'g++')11:16
Gambit---yeah, heh, that'd be nice11:16
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Gambit---thanks for the reference nailbiter :)11:16
Badm4nznailbiter, so ... my iptables rule will back everytime i restart ?11:17
humeZeep, i run both11:17
Gambit---still getting used to the package system :)11:17
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nailbiterBadm4nz: Yes, ipmasq will run at startup by default. If you want to turn this off (or back on), run 'dpkg-reconfigure -plow ipmasq'11:17
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bunglehi all11:17
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LoPMXmorning11:19
jack_i hate computers11:19
jack_goodbye11:19
jack_and goodnight11:19
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aeon17xO_O11:19
Badm4nznailbiter,   so my iptables prob has been solved ? my iptables that i put at /etc/ipmasq/rules/I00chain.rul will start automatically11:19
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nailbiterBadm4nz: Don't put that iptables.txt file in I00chain.rul!11:20
nailbiterBadm4nz: You'll screw up everything11:20
Badm4nzso ?11:20
humeis there an easy way to create a html-page that shows the content of a folder? would need that for plucker to find all files in a folder11:20
Badm4nzwith my iptables.txt11:20
nailbiterBadm4nz: I told you, you don't need iptables.txt anymore!  ipmasq does everything already11:20
Badm4nzwhat i should put at /etc/ipmasq/rules/I00chain.rul11:20
humeshows = links to11:20
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Badm4nzoh ic11:20
Badm4nzwell i'll testing11:21
Badm4nzby restart11:21
Badm4nzhope can meet you soon :p11:21
nailbiterBadm4nz: Good luck. :)11:21
FujitsuGood luck.11:21
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nailbiterhume: With which webserver? Apache?11:21
FujitsuHe will hopefully not need luck...11:22
humenailbiter, yes11:22
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nailbiterhume: Apache can automatically generate a file listing if 'index.html' is missing. Just add the 'Options +Index' directive to your <Location> or <VirtualHost> block11:22
dookiecan anyone help me out, i'm having trouble getting ubuntu to boot up11:22
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humenailbiter, in httpd.conf?11:23
Fujitsudookie, I can help.11:23
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nailbiterhume: Is this Apache 2.x?11:23
polk_I received this from dmesg command,what does this mean? [4301054.269000]  APIC error on CPU0: 40(40)11:23
ulinskiehow can I run mms? I have already installed libmms in my system but it does not work in totem?11:24
humenailbiter, no, apache 1 i think11:24
nailbiterhume: In that case, httpd.conf is the right place. ;-)11:24
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dookiecool thanks a lot, whenever i try to start ubuntu it hangs on "starting hotplug subsystems" and when i try under recover mode it gives me errors like kernel panic not syncing fatal exception in interrupt or attempted to kill init11:24
vbgunz!firefox11:25
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ubotuvbgunz: Are you smoking crack?11:25
vbgunz!crack?11:25
ubotuThe primary cause of people asking me the wrong things.11:25
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dookiei can mess around in my bios to turn off my pci video card and it skips "starting hotplug subsystems" but i'd much rather use my video card than integrated video11:26
nailbiterdookie: That sounds like the kernel's hanging when loading a device driver11:26
polk_!airmarshall11:26
ubotupolk_: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?11:26
vbgunzWhos got the link to firefox 1.5 on the wiki? I am searching the wiki and don't see it :(11:26
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nailbitervbgunz: Firefox 1.5rc3 is in dapper right not, but there's no backport to breezy yet11:26
FujitsuFirefoxNewVersion11:26
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vbgunz!FirefoxNewVersion11:26
ubotuvbgunz: Not a clue11:26
Fujitsuvbgunz, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion11:26
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linx_hey i got a noob question for yall.... when i start up my comp i have to enable my wireless connection every time is there a way to avoid this?11:27
vbgunzgot it, Fujitsu!11:27
vbgunzFujitsu: thank you!11:27
FujitsuAlways happy to help, vbgunz.11:27
polk_1.5 is buggy11:27
Fujitsupolk_, not really. What bugs are these?11:27
dookieand i've tried different video cards too, i have a geforce fx 5200 and ati radeon 9200, same error messages with either one11:27
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Badm4nnailbiter, thx11:29
Badm4nit's work11:29
Badm4nbtw11:29
Badm4ncan you help me 1 more thing nailbiter11:29
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mykehello11:29
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linx_hey i got a noob question for yall.... when i start up my comp i have to enable my wireless connection every time is there a way to avoid this?11:29
polk_I don't know Fujitsu11:29
Badm4ncan i install something like no-ip.com for my dynamic ip here ?11:29
mykeis there a way to pull a file from the ubuntu updates without useing synaptic or apt-get?11:29
Fujitsupolk_, then how can you say it is buggy?11:29
raghumyke, altitude11:30
chorseBadm4n, just install "no-ip"11:30
dookiei've been through various howtos in the forums to set up my video drivers, but nothing seems to work11:30
mykewhat is that11:30
myke?11:30
Badm4napt-get install no-ip ?11:30
nailbiterBadm4n: Ubuntu has a client for dyndns.org and zoneedit.com that might work also for no-ip.org. It's in the "ddclient" package.11:30
mykei am trying to update my stuff and synaptic eill not get a file11:30
mykesays its not there11:30
mykeor something11:30
YukiIkyutaFujitsu, why don't you eat chicken?11:30
Badm4nso ? what should i type ?11:30
mykegoes striaght to fial11:31
mykefail11:31
myke*11:31
Badm4napt-get install no-ip ?11:31
raghumyke do apt-get then11:31
nailbiterBadm4n: It's in the "ddclient" package.  apt-get install ddclient11:31
mykeso i wnet and got the file from another debian source installed it and now it still wants to update it11:31
linx_hey i got a noob question for yall.... when i start up my comp i have to enable my wireless connection every time is there a way to avoid this?11:31
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Badm4nnailbiter,  shoul i register first at dyndns first ? or i can register from ubuntu apt-get11:32
Badm4n?11:32
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raghulinx_ add to startup scripts..using update.rcd11:32
mykebrb11:32
nailbiterBadm4n: You have to register at dyndns.org or zoneedit.com first, yes. The package can't organize your account for you automatically. :)11:32
QRZlinx_:  In your /etc/network/interfaces file, you can add the line, "auto ethx" to the end of the entry for your wireless interface.11:33
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Badm4nwhich one you can prefer to me zoneedit or dydns ?11:33
linx_alright thx11:33
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nailbiterBadm4n: If you don't already have a domain, use dyndns.org. You'll be allocated one like 'badm4n.dyndns.org'. If you own a domain, try zoneedit.11:34
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Badm4nok thx11:34
Badm4nnailbiter,  can i have your email address ?? ( query ) so if i have prob i can sent you mail to help me and tech me :D11:35
linx_QRZ: it is already on wlan011:35
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QRZlinx_:  Is there a line that says, "auto wlan0" then?11:36
nailbiterBadm4n: Just ask here. :) There are plenty of smarter people who can answer if I'm not around11:36
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linx_ya11:36
rem_Which one should I use if I want a NFS server  nfs-kernel-server or nfs-user-server ... ?11:36
rem_whats the diff ?11:36
QRZlinx_:  Then it should come up automatically on boot.  Check your system logs for clues as to why it's not.11:37
nailbiterrem_: One runs in user-space and the other is a kernel module. :) The kernel-space NFS server is faster, and is actually being maintained11:37
rem_the first line i figured..-.thanx for the anser :)11:38
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linx_QRZ:alright thx11:38
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Badm4nroot@tequila:/home/she# ddclient11:38
Badm4nWARNING:  unable to determine IP address11:38
Badm4nroot@tequila:/home/she#11:38
Badm4n] 11:38
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Badm4nwhy is that11:38
BockBilbom11:38
nailbiterBadm4n: You need to edit /etc/ddclient.conf11:38
BockBilbothis is so weird11:38
BockBilbothe postfix-tls package has dissapeared from the repositories11:39
BockBilboanyone has any idea?11:39
Badm4nnailbiter, shoul i delete ?11:39
rem_..since its a Kernel module do I have to reboot after updating it .. ?11:39
rem_aynone used ddclient trhough a proxy server with authentification ... ?11:39
nailbiterBockBilbo: 'postfix-tls' has been a dummy package for some time (the TLS managed was moved into the main 'postfix' package after crypto export laws were relaxed in the US)11:39
nailbiterrem_: No, the /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server script will load the 'nfsd' kernel module if necessary11:40
rem_ok thx11:40
BockBilbonailbiter, but.. anyway.. see im having a problem with tls in postfix11:40
nailbiterrem_: In any case, the 'nfsd' kernel module actually ships in the kernel package; the nfs-kernel-server package just contains a bunch of scripts to kickstart it11:40
BockBilboi get an error saying somehing abot the tls library11:40
rem_oh ok11:40
BockBilbo*about11:40
nailbiterBockBilbo: What's the error message?11:41
BockBilboshouldi paste it here? its 3 lines long11:41
YukiIkyuta!tell BockBilbo about pastebin11:41
nailbiterBadm4n: Delete?11:41
BockBilboYukiIkyuta, i know what pastebin is11:41
BockBilbo;)11:41
YukiIkyuta:)11:41
Fujitsu:)11:41
YukiIkyutaFujitsu :)11:41
Badm4nyes11:41
Fujitsu:)11:42
Fujitsu:)11:42
nailbiterBadm4n: When you installed the 'ddclient' package, you would have been asked a series of questions, like what provider you're using, and which interface you're going through11:42
Fujitsu;)11:42
YukiIkyutaHeheheh.11:42
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Fujitsu>:-(11:42
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YukiIkyutaFujitsu, stop that!11:42
nailbiterBadm4n: After that, the ddclient will start in the background. You shouldn't need to invoke it manually11:42
YukiIkyutaBockBilbo, you can probably paste here, 3 lines isn't too much.11:42
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Badm4ni have already11:42
YukiIkyutaI had some problems with Postfix + TLS recently, actually.11:42
Badm4nbut11:42
Badm4nthe first one11:42
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YukiIkyutaI really should set that up again ...11:42
Badm4nis a mistake11:42
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Badm4ncan i remove and then re install ?11:42
BockBilboYukiIkyuta, thats why I asked... but im gonna paste it in pastebin11:42
nailbiterBadm4n: So run 'dpkg-reconfigure ddclient' to reconfigure the package11:42
YukiIkyutaBockBilbo, OK.11:43
BockBilboYukiIkyuta, nailbiter http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/45380511:43
dookiewell if ubuntu hangs on "starting hotplug subsystems" what can i try messing with to get it working?11:43
Badm4nallrite11:43
Badm4nthx11:43
BockBilbothats the error logs11:43
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Badm4nnailbiter, what is the answer of :11:44
Badm4nEnter the interface which is used for using dynamic DNS service.  11:44
Badm4n                                                                                               11:44
Badm4n                             Interface used for dynamic DNS service11:44
YukiIkyutaSounds like your TLS library doesn't understand what language is being spoken ...11:44
afd_hi! I kind of screwed my firefox while trying to upgrade to firefox 1.5. My  configured apt repository doesn't work (is offline or something), where can I find a list of repositories and a sources.list file?11:44
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BockBilboYukiIkyuta, nailbiter i get the same problem with imaps and pop3s with courier11:44
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BockBilboYukiIkyuta, ... it used to understand it a day ago..11:45
YukiIkyutaBockBilbo, weird.. I'm going to try setting up Postfix right now, so we'll see what happens for me .. I'm not too good with it, so I don't really know what's going on.11:45
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BockBilboIve tried to ask at #postfix but they are like death11:45
albertociao11:45
YukiIkyutao_O!!!11:45
nailbiterBadm4n: Which interface is your gateway on? eth0? Use that.11:45
BockBilboYukiIkyuta, i mean they dont talk11:45
BockBilboxD11:45
Badm4neth011:46
Badm4nic11:46
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YukiIkyutaAha!11:46
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Badm4nEnable this if ddclient should be run every time a ppp connection is established.  11:46
Badm4n                                                                                                       11:46
Badm4n                    Run ddclient on ppp connect11:46
Badm4nshould i answer yes ?11:46
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YukiIkyutaIt's a really weird error, I'll say that much.11:46
wezzeryes you should11:46
ben_underscoreafd_, http://www.ubuntuguide.org/11:47
nailbiterBadm4n: It doesn't really matter since you don't seem to be using pppoe. But just say yes anyway11:47
BockBilboYukiIkyuta, you mean my error is wird?... it is..:S11:47
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Badm4nroot@tequila:/home/she# ddclient11:47
Badm4nWARNING:  skipping update of kemayoran.mine.ru from <nothing> to 192.168.2.100.11:47
Badm4nWARNING:   last updated <never> but last attempt on Fri Dec  9 00:46:18 2005 failed.11:47
Badm4nWARNING:   Wait at least 5 minutes between update attempts.11:47
Badm4nis that mean it's run ?11:48
Myrttiben_underscore: not the best of advice that ubuntuguide, you know11:48
nailbiterBadm4n: No, it means that it tried to update your address, but failed. Have you actually signed up at mine.ru?11:48
Badm4nyes11:48
Badm4nyou can browse that11:48
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peterretiefwhere do i get instructions to set up mysql 511:49
nailbiterBadm4n: Do these mine.ru people actually support ddclient?11:49
peterretiefon breezy11:49
Badm4n?11:49
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nailbiterBadm4n: ddclient won't work with every Dynamic DNS service out there. Some are compatible, some are not. Are you sure this mine.ru services works with ddclient?11:50
BockBilbonalbiter doesnt he have to use dhclient?11:50
Badm4ndunno :) i get that domain from dydns11:51
BockBilbomm never mind11:51
Badm4nwhen i register11:51
afd_ben_underscore, thx11:51
ben_underscoreMyrtti, no?11:51
FujitsuWait a sec.11:51
Myrtti!tell ben_underscore about ubuntuguide11:51
FujitsuBadm4n, trying to set your DynDNS IP to your network-internal IP is _not_ going to work!11:51
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Renskilol11:52
cozhello all11:52
FujitsuHi coz.11:52
cozis there a desktop capture utility, other than istanbul, that works11:52
ben_underscoreMyrtti, ah. thanks.11:52
Myrttinp11:52
Badm4ndont understant .... nailbiter said that i must regist first11:52
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ben_underscoreafd_, i've been told you should check out http://help.ubuntu.com/ instead for the official doco11:53
Hoxzerhttp://bash.org/?34956711:53
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YukiIkyutaOdd, I thought Istanbul was a city.11:53
cozcute it is also a desktop capture utility that sucks11:53
BockBilboYukiIkyuta, are you trying that out?11:53
cozit doesn11:53
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oskudecoz, sec, i had one, forgot the name... sec... googling... :)11:54
YukiIkyutaBockBilbo, I'm still setting it up, my situation is kinda tricky.11:54
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Badm4nroot@tequila:/home/she# ddclient11:54
Badm4nroot@tequila:/home/she#11:54
Badm4nhow about that11:54
cozOK how to get osgg vorbis video to play?11:54
Badm4nthat mean it's work ?11:54
cozogg vorbis11:55
ben_underscorewhere did they get the name ogg vorbis anyway?11:55
AzmodanI'd like to extract strings from a Windows .exe file, what program do I need ?11:55
YukiIkyutaAzmodan, strings!11:55
oskudecoz, ogg vorbis video is propably "theora"11:55
YukiIkyutaAzmodan, try "strings filename | less"11:55
ben_underscoreAzmodan, use strings, or do "od -c"11:55
Azmodanok, thanks11:55
cozok how to get theora to play11:55
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Jowihello everyone11:56
FujitsuHi Jowi.11:56
cozhello11:56
Jowiquiet today?11:57
ben_underscorehi jowi11:57
oskudecoz, "apt-cache search theora" gave like "gstreamer0.8-theora" and "libtheora0"11:57
YukiIkyutaFujitsu, isn't it past your bedtime? :)11:57
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cozlet me check11:57
FujitsuOMG, YukiIkyuta, you are right.11:57
YukiIkyutaHeheheh. XD11:57
antisocial_borisis there a command i can use to remove directories and their contents at the same time?11:57
YukiIkyutaIt's getting closer!!11:57
ben_underscoreantisocial_boris, rm -R <dir>11:58
Fujitsurm -r <directory>, antisocial_boris.11:58
Jowiantisocial_boris: rm -rf foldername11:58
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oskudecoz, i made some videos with "istanbul" but cant remember with what i played them... :)11:58
Seveas!seen cafuego11:58
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ubotucafuego is currently on #ubuntu11:58
YukiIkyutaantisocial_boris, using `-rf' is dangerous, so be careful.11:58
Jowiantisocial_boris: "f" is force11:58
YukiIkyutaie. it plows through anything and everything without confirmation.11:59
FujitsuBrb.11:59
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YukiIkyutakk11:59
antisocial_borisbut it should be fine if i know whats in there and that i know i dont want it?12:00
ben_underscoreantisocial_boris, yes12:00
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J_Phi all12:00
YukiIkyutaHi J_P.12:01
oskudecoz, huh, atlast i found it :) http://xvidcap.sourceforge.net/12:01
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j813hi guys, anyone remember the link on how to enable ntfs vfat? thanks12:01
J_Ppeople, ubuntu have python-vlc in anyone repository ? i try universe and multiverse, but not find :-(12:01
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_native_hydrogen is so unusably slow even with nice -2012:02
oskudecoz, but sadly it seems to be a dead project :(12:02
_native_it sucks! how can i work with this?!!12:02
JowiJ_P: nope, doesnt look like it12:02
_native_whats another drum sequencer?12:03
J_PJowi: In backport ubuntu not have too ?12:03
JowiJ_P: that i don't know.12:03
_native_time for google ;] 12:03
J_PJowi: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted12:03
J_Pdeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ breezy-extras main universe multiverse restricted12:03
J_P not work here..12:03
J_PI have error in apg-te update12:03
cozthanks oskude  will try that it sounds more like what I want rather than that dumb istanbul12:04
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zool2005good morning12:05
Jowimidi in general is dead slow especially timidity. I could play midis just fine in DOS on my 486-DX-100 but not on my 1ghz machine in linux. Anyone know what's up? Can it be that the freepats are too large?12:06
walkingicezool2005: Good Morning :)12:06
Jowi'morning zool200512:06
wezzerello12:06
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zool2005could someone tell me how to change the runlevel please, I do init3 and it doesn't seem to kill X12:06
chorseJowi, timidity is a software synthesizer.12:06
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Jowizool2005: telinit is what you want12:07
walkingicezool2005:  set /etc/inittab??12:07
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Jowichorse: yeah...?12:07
zool2005I presume you do CTRL+ALT+F? first12:07
Jowiah, coffee is ready12:08
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chorseJowi, aye. for hardware midi you need a wavetable file and a tool like pmidi12:08
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zool2005I ask only because I need to kill X to install nvidia drivers12:09
Jowichorse: ah, thanks for the tip. will try it12:09
chorseJowi, but well, timidity sounds much better than default hardware synthesizers12:09
chorseif you just want listening midi music, convert it via timidity into wave audio12:10
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blue-frogzool2005, install ubuntu nvidia driver might be better than the run pachage from nvidia12:11
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Jowichorse: yeah, i used to have a soundblaster awe-32 (isa bus) that had a wavetable in it. perfect sound. so that must be the difference.12:11
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sijmenHi there12:12
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sijmenMaybe a bit of lame question, but how to disable X11 starting up automatically?12:12
chorseJowi, sure. and hardware midi uses permanently 8 MB of RAM for storing the wavetable12:13
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sijmenMaybe a bit of lame question, but how to disable X11 starting up automatically?12:13
Jowichorse: hmmm, pmidi can not find any alsa ports...12:13
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blue-frogsijmen, system>administrattion>services gdm12:14
chorseJowi, you need some kind of -synth module in the kernel12:14
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Jowichorse: crap. ok. i compiled my own recently. must've forgotten it12:14
bimberisijmen: sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove12:14
Jowichorse: thanks12:14
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chorseJowi, np12:14
BockBilboYukiIkyuta, apart from that issue, i have two questions related to local users and their mail...12:15
sijmenAh, thanks12:15
sijmenSorry if that message got through twice, I forgot to identify12:15
humandoing"Error loading Operating System"... yum :|12:15
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cozhello again12:15
coz thanks for the xvidcap sugestion however it does not work12:16
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oskudecoz, yeah, there where some issues... but cant remember what... from where did you install ? or did you compiled it ?12:16
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YukiIkyuta|brbBockBilbo, I'll be back later.12:16
Jowihumandoing: a vic20 can *not* be booted with grub ;-)12:16
BockBilbook12:16
cozI got the deb package from xvidcap homepage12:17
oskudecoz, sec, ill test...12:17
zool2005apparently I have an NVIDIA module installed "linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-amd64-generic" but the xorg.conf file shows the "nv" driver is being used, can anyone help please12:17
humandoingJowi - but what about my TI-85?12:17
zool2005I have a Geforce FX520012:17
cozcould be my system but the app is outdated 2004 last release12:17
Jowihumandoing: perhaps. only tried with TI-89/A. "munchman" is the best game ever.12:17
oskudecoz, jup, the xvidcap project seems dead... but i had it working (atleast under hoary)12:18
cozIt says cannot find libpng.so.2 the site recomends that it be linked but the solution he gave did not work either12:18
Jowihttp://www.videogamehouse.net/munchman.html12:18
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cozjust type in the browser xvidcap homepage12:18
chorsezool2005, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia12:19
oskudecoz, hmm, heres a newer source http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=81535&package_id=83441&release_id=29334112:19
cozunfortunate because a good desktop capture is needed at least for me12:19
coz I use camtasia studio on windows, it's great need the same on ubuntu12:19
humandoingJowi: hah!... maybe you can answer a quick question, I'm quite pleased I backed up all my data :P, but anyways, I managed to get rid of the "Error loading operating system" via XP recovery console (fixboot / fixmbr) now I get an NTLDR error :|12:19
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cozlet me look12:19
oskudecoz, jup, i allways wanted a good screen (video) capture tool for linux too...12:20
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humandoingJowi: I'm thinking I might try to install Ubuntu _first_ then WinXP... and can I use partition magic or something to load a bootloader for the two?12:20
bimberi!find libpng.so.212:20
humandoingany ideas?12:20
sijmenOne more question if you would be so kind: is it possible to autologin as a given user? (in console, that is)12:20
ubotuUbuntu Search of 'libpng.so.2' (1 shown): (/usr/lib/libpng.so.2) in universe/libs/libpng2.12:20
humandoingI feel like I'm being violated by a locomotive :P12:20
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cozlet me try this version maybe it will work be back12:21
bimbericoz: install libpng2???12:21
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Jowihumandoing: i successfully installed XP first and ubuntu after. installed grub on the mbr.12:21
oskudecoz, im compiling the new source too :)12:21
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Jowihumandoing: maybe your grub setup is a bit wierd...12:22
Jowi!grub12:22
ubotuI heard grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting12:22
Jowithat might help12:22
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Jowihumandoing: haven't use pqmagic in ages and haven't tried its bootmanager i'm afraid12:23
humandoingJowi: that's what I did...12:23
humandoingI let it overwrite my MBR, and it proceeded to... um... hurt me.12:23
humandoingI've done this 19 other times, with other Linuxes, and no problems... blech...12:23
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Jowihumandoing: yeah, i never had that problem. installed breezy on a laptop dualbooted with winxp the other day. can not help you there i'm afraid.12:24
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humandoingI'll take a look at that "Recovering..." link12:24
humandoingbut dinner first...12:24
humandoingthnx12:24
_Rappy_I'm partitioning my disk. So far I 4 partitions, but now the Partition manager says tahtthe last 14.7 GB is "Unusable" What's the problem?12:25
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chorse_Rappy_, delete the 4th partition and create a logical one12:26
Gambit-hey chaps12:26
chorse_Rappy_, that's a dos partition table limitation12:26
_Rappy_so it's a limitation on no of Primary disks?12:26
Gambit-once I install the dhcp server, will there be a gui widget for configuration, or do I need to edit the conf files by hand?12:26
chorse_Rappy_, aye. 3 primary + 1 extended with logicals12:26
Jowi_Rappy_: you can only have 4 primary disks12:26
sanjayRappy: yes. 4 primary or 3 primary + unlimited logical on the 4th ..12:26
Gambit-via the symantic package manager, that is12:27
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xxenonI have a server with domain name (mydomain.com). What should I install to have my server reply to DNS requests like xxx.mydomain.com ?12:27
YukiIkyutaxxenon, bind!12:28
YukiIkyutanamed*!12:28
xxenonlemme see..12:28
YukiIkyutaIt takes a bit of setup, though.12:28
xxenonI see...12:28
_Rappy_so what partition would you make logical (I want /boot  /  /urs /home and /swap) (in addition I got one with WinXP)12:28
YukiIkyutaYou may like to Google a tutorial on setting up DNS with bind/named.12:28
chaumurky _Rappy_: make /home logical.12:29
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YukiIkyutaFujitsu, you there?12:30
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Jowi_Rappy_: /boot, / and optionally a windows partition should be primary. the rest logical.12:31
xxenonYukiIkyuta - found some doc...hehe...Ill just forget it :)12:31
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phimichi all12:32
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Jowi_Rappy_: /boot must be primary since it will have the bootable flag i guess.12:32
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phimicwhere can i find winefish12:32
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phimici use breezy but cannot find this application12:32
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sanjaydoes anyone know why Ubuntu always  resets my DNS server -- even if i enter it manually in resolv.conf -- whenever i reconnect, it changes my DNS servers and i have to go in and re-enter ..12:32
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YukiIkyutaxxenon, I got it working successfully with Fujitsu's help, but yes, it is quite a complex beast!12:33
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odairHi !12:33
Jowihello phimic, odair12:33
phimichi Jowi12:34
odairOl eu sou do Brasil,12:34
YukiIkyutasanjay, Ubuntu doesn't do it - it's copying in the results from your DHCP server.12:34
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sanjayYuki: right - and i have stupid gits for an ISP -- is there anyway i can override that and tell it never to mess with my resolv.conf ?12:34
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YukiIkyutasanjay, I believe so - try opening network-setup..12:35
Kaiser_Sleepssanjay: set it read only12:35
YukiIkyutathen going to the `DNS' tab.12:35
YukiIkyutaOr you could do that.12:35
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YukiIkyutaIt might complain, however.12:35
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odairhi !12:36
YukiIkyutaDo we have a Brazilian channel?12:36
Jowi!br12:36
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.12:36
sanjaysetting resolv.conf to read-only might be fun : ) - lets try it and see what happens -- ya i can change it at the DNS tab, but it always changes it back, then i have to re-change every time i connect - not a problem, just a pain ..12:36
odairok12:37
bimberisanjay: iirc setting it read-only doesn't work - "sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf" will set it immutable (-i to undo)12:37
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Gambit-hm I need a cheap (lightweight) DNS server that acts as a proxy or cache for my LAN, suggestions?12:38
YukiIkyutaGambit-, DNS server; bind/named12:39
Gambit-well sure12:39
Gambit-just thought that would be a bit heavyweight12:39
YukiIkyutaI have it set up as a DNS server for my LAN, and it seems fine. ^^12:39
sanjaybimberi: thanks.12:39
Gambit-okie12:39
YukiIkyutaJust find yourself a good tutorial (not too hard!), and you'll have it up in no time.12:39
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bimberisanjay: np :)12:39
DrBairGambit-:  could try dnsmasq for dns server12:39
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DrBairGambit-:  its a bit lacking in higher end features though12:40
Gambit-Does it do cacheing too?  I don't really want to fuck with it at the moment, so if it's a fairly blind install, then I'm happy.12:40
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DrBairGambit-:  it caches the addresses, yes12:40
Gambit-that's probably good enough for me... is it in the pkg system?12:40
BockBilboanyone here knows what does smmsp@localhost  refer to?12:40
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BockBilbo i mean, which program uses that localhost email name?12:41
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DrBairGambit-:  I would suspect, its quite popular. haven't looked though.  I use it on my gentoo server12:41
Gambit-hm ok, I'll dig into it12:41
Gambit-here's another question, the symantic project manager just started popping up an error on startup that it can't find the archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages file... do I have to recreate it somehow?12:42
Fujoorhey guys, this may seem as a silly question, but is it possible to install ubuntu without the gui?12:42
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Fujoorand still have the apt-get functions?12:43
YukiIkyutaGambit-, try `sudo apt-get update'12:43
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JowiFujoor: yep, choose "server" install12:43
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YukiIkyutaFujoor, of course! A minimal or server install will do that.12:43
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Fujoorcan one choose to minimalize the install or do i have to do that afterwards?12:43
Gambit-YukiIkyuta, just out of curiosity, any ways I could have figured that out myself? :)12:43
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YukiIkyutaGambit-, I think it says down the bottom, "have you run apt-get update?", or something.12:44
YukiIkyutaFujoor, no question is silly. ^^12:44
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JowiFujoor: you install as server, and then add X or whatever you want after that. of course you can also install everything and then remove what you don't need but i would think you have to spend more time with that then just doing the server install12:44
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MillenniumgroupGuys does @ubuntu utilize a shipping order known as "mail fast"?12:44
Fujooroh, but the server install is minimal from the beginning, right?12:45
JowiFujoor: correct12:45
Fujoorbut i still get all the drivers?12:45
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Gambit-Yuki, hm heh12:45
JowiFujoor: yes. they are modules most of the time.12:46
bimberiFujoor: yep, you get all the hardware detection goodness :)12:46
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JowiFujoor: but the X drivers will not be installed of course12:46
ubun-newbiehi how do i create a socket12:46
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Fujoorlovely, and then i can apt-get all the goodies like lynx and irssi without installing the gui?12:46
Fujooror the wm or whatever its called12:46
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YukiIkyutaFujitsu, yup.12:47
clem_yeatsubun-newbie : for xmas ? :)12:47
ubun-newbieyep (:12:47
clem_yeatslol, in which language ?12:47
YukiIkyutaubun-newbie, that's a vague question - what do you mean?12:47
ubun-newbiei want to create a socket to programm a socket12:48
YukiIkyutaubun-newbie, that question is a bit out of the scope of this chatroom. I can refer you to a network programming tutorial, if you like.12:48
Fujoorlovely, cheers guys12:48
Jowinp Fujoor12:48
ubun-newbiewhich channel12:48
Fujoorill comeback when i have gone further with the installment :)12:48
YukiIkyutaubun-newbie, not sure if any does, really. Would you like the tutorial?12:48
YukiIkyutaFujoor, good luck!12:48
ubun-newbieyes give me link to tutorial12:49
YukiIkyutaubun-newbie, http://jcatki.no-ip.org/beej/12:49
YukiIkyutaHope this helps.12:49
oskudeanyone know how i temporarly use gcc-3.4 (instead of gcc-4.0) ?12:49
crimsunexport CC=gcc-3.412:49
YukiIkyutaoskude, sure. Install gcc-3.412:49
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YukiIkyutaThen as crimsun says.12:49
clem_yeatsoskuke : in order to install a wifi card is it ?12:49
oskudethnx12:49
oskudeclem_yeats, nope, just testing something... (xvidcap-1.1.4pre2)12:50
clem_yeatsoskuke : oki... I had the same problem with a wifi driver..12:50
YukiIkyutaAll my wifi cards have worked out of the box. o_O12:51
clem_yeatslucky you :) I'm afraid I really can't say the same :))12:51
YukiIkyutaDamn!12:51
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clem_yeatsand not just because they were OEM (no box..)12:52
_Rappy_I'm trying the expert installation on breezy. And now it asks me to choose a kernel. linux-386, linux-image-386 and linux-image-2.6.12.9-38612:52
_Rappy_which one should I use12:52
YukiIkyuta_Rappy_, any! They're linked.12:53
YukiIkyuta(the same thing - linux-image-2.6.12.9-386 is the safest choice, but I'm quite sure they're all the asme)12:53
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psychoravhi to everyone :)12:54
TaZzZHI!!12:54
Jowihi psychorav12:55
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YukiIkyutaHiya.12:55
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psychoravi've some questions to the acpi .... because it doesn't work well on my laptop12:55
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nelpostohello people... it seems like my 'make' command is broke :'(12:56
nelpostoit really hurts my feelings12:56
nelpostoyou can see above i'm crying if you don't beleive me12:56
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YukiIkyutanelposto, damn!12:57
YukiIkyutaWhat happened?12:57
Jowinelposto: i do believe you. now now - don't be like that. tell us all what happened.12:57
nelposto*sniff* well ok...12:57
Fujooroh, i have another not ubuntu related question, but does anyone know if pine works with gmail?12:57
YukiIkyutapsychorav, have you updated your laptop's BIOS? That fixed *everything* ACPI/power related for me first time.12:57
YukiIkyutaFujoor, .. I wouldn't think so. o__O12:57
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Fujoorany x based email client that does?12:57
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JowiFujoor: thunderbird, evolution12:58
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psychoravYukiIkyuta: i just read an article about how you can simulate a new dsdt table to the kernel and i tried it, but it crashed my kernel12:58
nelpostoYukiIkyuta, Jowi : when I try to make, i get this "/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 11: gcc-3.4: command not found12:58
nelposto/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 12: gcc-3.4: command not found12:58
nelposto  HOSTCC  scripts/basic/fixdep12:58
nelposto/bin/sh: gcc-3.4: command not found12:58
nelpostomake[1] : *** [scripts/basic/fixdep]  Error 12712:58
nelpostomake: *** [scripts_basic]  Error 212:58
JowiFujoor: but you need to enable the pop3 in gmail preferences12:58
nelposto"12:58
YukiIkyutaFujoor, to be precise, for PINE/MUTT etc. to see mail from GMail, you need to set up fetchmail.12:58
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Fujoorjowi: but do they work without any window managers?12:58
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YukiIkyutanelposto, "sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4"12:58
kandinskiskype is good but non-free12:58
JowiFujoor: no, you need a gui for evo and tb12:58
kandinskioops, I was answering backroll12:59
dragoonskype is free12:59
YukiIkyutaHah.12:59
Fujooryuki: ah, so fetchmail should work in x?12:59
YukiIkyutaFujoor, out of X!12:59
nelpostovrrooooom.. why thankyou YukiIkyuta12:59
kandinskiDragoon, not Free as in Open Source: it is gratis, not libre12:59
mjrdragoon, just as in beer; it's as proprietary as anything both software and protocolwise12:59
YukiIkyutanelposto, vrrooom vroom!!12:59
YukiIkyutamjr, and beerwise.12:59
Chousukekandinski: open source doesn't equal Free12:59
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mjryes, beer too :)01:00
nelpostomwahahahahah it works I WILL TAKE OVER LINUX ALL UR BASE R BELONG TO ME01:00
kandinskiOpen Source Certified does01:00
YukiIkyutanelposto, compiling a new-ish kernel?01:00
neotrophyEeek!  For some reason, that I can't figure out, apache-ssl is serving PHP pages as files rather than evaluating them.  They work fine from normal apache2 though.  Any ideas anyone... please01:00
Jowilol01:00
kandinskibut that is another discussion01:00
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YukiIkyutaYukiIkyuta, this is true, but installing an entirely new BIOS should do the trick!01:00
Chousukekandinski: Do you mean OSI Certified?01:00
kandinskiyep01:00
nelpostoYukiIkyuta: trying to add suspend2 to it so i can hibernate01:00
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Chousukeyeah, I guess.01:00
kandinskijust as when I say Free I mean (either FSF or DFSG-free)01:00
Chousukebut you can have open source non-free software01:00
kandinskiChousuke, and free non-free software too01:01
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kandinskiskype is free and non-free01:01
Chousukeyeah :P01:01
kandinskiI just use the meaning of words that is more useful01:01
YukiIkyutanelposto, aha.01:01
Chousukeand then there's non-free (in a way) Free software.01:01
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ChousukeI mean, if you make software A under the GPL, and distribute the source only to those who buy the binaries, the software is still Libre.01:02
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YukiIkyutaChousuke, can you do that, however?01:03
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Chousukesure. of course you may not offer the binaries to anyone but those who pay for them, because then you'd have to distribute the source to them too01:03
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YukiIkyutaI mean, according to the GPL?01:04
Chousukewith GPL. the source, binaries and freedoms are bundled together.01:04
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YukiIkyutaHmm.01:04
Chousukeyes you can01:04
Chousukeyou can sell the bundle01:04
bimberiisn't that what Sveasoft do?01:04
Chousukenow ->01:04
JowiChousuke: but wouldn't that let anyone that purchased the gpl'd software be able to spread it for free as well?01:04
cafuegoChousuke: of course, any payee can modify that source and distribute it for free.01:05
cafuegoEr, payer.01:05
LoPMXhmm, how do i install java 1.5?01:05
YukiIkyutaTherein lies the problem.01:05
cafuegoSo whyw aste time selling it to begin with?01:05
YukiIkyutaConsider you'd only get one customer.01:05
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cafuegoLoPMX: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java01:05
peterretiefi just installed breezy and get an error running ./configure for mysql 5  - configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check01:05
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peterretiefany help[01:05
raghu!java01:05
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs01:05
YukiIkyutapeterretief, sounds like your preprocessor is insane!01:05
peterretiefthansk01:06
cafuegoDoes mysql 4.1 not do what you need it to?01:06
ChousukeJowi: cafuego: Of course.01:06
Chousuke (it was too early to go after all :P)01:06
peterretiefthe default is 4.001:06
cafuegopeterretief: Does that not do what you want it to do>?01:06
peterretiefno01:06
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contradictorybenpeterretief: do you need to compile mysql 5.0 ... the mysql website recommends installing the binary01:06
cafuegopeterretief: (4.1 IS in breezy, though)01:07
contradictoryben(and that's what i did)01:07
peterretiefi would prefer 5 though01:07
Chousukecafuego: you can sell support with your bundle01:07
cafuegoChousuke: of course.01:07
Chousukeor new features in your version of the software which no other version has.01:07
peterretiefcontradictoryben: what binary01:07
cafuegoChousuke: But why bother selling the bundle to begin with? Why not give it away for free, with paid support?01:07
contradictorybenpeterretief: hold on i'll find the link01:07
peterretiefthanks01:07
Chousukecafuego: That is a good question.01:08
Chousukecafuego: but reasons for that may exist.01:08
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cafuegoChousuke: if your software has features others don't, and you distribute it via tyhe GPL, the others will have said version after one client redistributes it.01:08
Chousukethus you can't say it's useless.01:08
cafuegos/version/features/01:08
Chousukecafuego: yes, but your client would get it first.01:08
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cafuegoChousuke: So you piss off your client and lose your advantage.01:09
Chousukeand it's up to the to distribute it01:09
Chousukeclient01:09
LoPMXthanks01:09
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JowiChousuke: you CAN make your own license you know. you can sell it and as a bonus provide the source. Customer can do whatever he/she likes with it except redistribute it.01:09
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ChousukeJowi: then it wouldn't be free.01:09
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contradictorybenpeterretief: http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/mysql/5.0.html under "Linux (non RPM package) downloads": I use the "max" version01:09
Chousukethe point was having  free software you have to pay for.01:09
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peterretiefcontradictoryben: thanks will try01:10
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Chousukeit is not impossible :)01:10
JowiChousuke: you can't have the cake and eat it too :-)01:10
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justizzhi01:10
cafuegoChousuke: no, just kinda pointless if you use the GPL for it.01:10
YukiIkyutaHi justizz.01:10
Chousukecafuego: why?01:10
justizzhow can i start sound server :o01:10
contradictorybenpeterretief: and here's the installation guide: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/linux-rpm.html01:10
bimberipeterretief: also, cpp may not be installed by default01:10
tony_Quick question:  I installed the java plugin for firefox using Synaptic, and now if I go to a page with java it closes down firefox... anybody else hear of that before?01:10
peterretiefi did go and install cpp01:10
Chousukecafuego: Is it profitable for your clients to distribute the source?01:10
contradictorybenpeterretief: oops... sorry this is the right installation guide: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/installing-binary.html01:11
cafuegoChousuke: Because the moment you sell ONE copy, the purchaser can edit and redistribute it. Why would anyone else buy from you?01:11
justizzi had to turn it off, because sounds on Americas Army didnt work01:11
Xtreme984can anyone help me???01:11
bimberipeterretief: k :)01:11
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YukiIkyutaChousuke, it's not inprofitable. xP01:11
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Chousukecafuego: and if it is, they'll appreciate their ability to do so, and probably like you for it.01:11
cafuegoChousuke: They may do it even though there is no ingherent profit. I would.01:11
peterretiefbimberi: thanks :)01:11
Gambit-so all exechey guys01:11
Jowijustizz: "esd" probably01:11
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Gambit-you use IPTables nowadays for NAT and such?01:11
raghutkrag, hi toams01:11
cafuegoChousuke: But then still, you lose yourproduct.01:11
raghutkrag, hi tomas01:11
justizzJowi, on root terminal?01:11
looksauswat are the most likely place and time I can meet sabdfl on irc?01:11
Chousukecafuego: even though it could drive the company who supports it into bankruptcy?01:11
Chousukecafuego: no you don't01:12
tkragraghu, hello01:12
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Jowijustizz: no, as the user.01:12
cafuegoChousuke: it's not my fault said company is operating on a bad business model.01:12
Chousukecafuego: it's not a bad business model01:12
justizz"/dev/dsp: Device or resource busy01:12
justizz"01:12
Chousukegive me one reason why it is.01:12
tony_could someone please walk me through troubleshooting a bad jre plugin installation?01:12
cafuegoChousuke: it is if you only make money off the PRODUCT, not the support.01:12
raghutkrag, busy ?01:12
justizzso do that mean its on? :o01:13
Chousukecafuego: of course.01:13
YukiIkyutajustizz, typically.01:13
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mykehello01:13
Chousukecafuego: of course you need to offer support too01:13
Jowijustizz: ps -A | grep esd01:13
cafuegoChousuke: There is no money in selling comodities, only in the support (experience!)01:13
Chousukethat's the whole point.01:13
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mykeis there a way i can eject a cd/dvd by pressing the button and not right clicking - eject?01:13
mykeas a user01:13
myke?01:13
Chousukeproprietary devs can't get away with selling just software either.01:13
poningrumyke: no but its being worked on01:13
Chousukethey need to offer support.01:13
mykeok thnx01:14
Chousukebut now I have to go.01:14
peterretieftheres money in anything that adds value01:14
poningrumyke: expect it in dapper01:14
mykeponingru- i could do it in slackware01:14
peterretiefopen source is the way01:14
poningrumyke: yeah I know many distros do it01:14
mykeponingru- why not in ubuntu/01:14
cafuegoChousuke: Yes, but IF the software is to be freely redistributed, why annoy a paying customer by NOT giving them added value. Why can't they instead use FREE software and BUY support?01:14
mykeponingru- thats weird01:14
poningrumyke: meh not that big a deal01:14
poningruI actually prefer it this way01:14
poningrucause I have many annoying cousing01:15
mykeponingru- yea i know but for people trying to switch the tinyest things make them not want to switch you know01:15
poningruthey keep hitting the button everything stops and cant watch the movie01:15
peterretiefyou dont give them free software, you install the best possible software for their needs01:15
poningrumyke: true01:15
mykelol01:15
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poningruso anyone actually needs help?01:15
cafuegopeterretief: Yeah, but many don't want Macs.01:15
tony_YES01:15
tony_could someone please walk me through troubleshooting a bad jre plugin installation?01:16
peterretiefhehe01:16
poningrutony_: whats up?01:16
mykedo you where i can get the pkgs for gyach?01:16
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peterretiefmacs not always the best solution01:16
tony_I installed the java plugin for firefox using Synaptic, and now if I go to a page with java it closes down firefox... anybody else hear of that before?01:16
mykei got them before but i had to fotmat01:16
poningrutony_: did you install java at all?01:16
mykeformat*01:16
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YukiIkyutamyke, you can type `eject'01:16
tony_yes java is installed by default in all Ubuntu's01:16
YukiIkyutaAnd `eject -t' to close the tray again.01:16
raghu /msg nickserv link <raghu> <think>01:16
tony_so saith Synaptic01:16
Xtreme984does anyone know if I need new drivers for a RaLink RT2500 wireless card on a LiveCD boot?01:17
Xtreme984(64-bit version 5.10)01:17
poningrutony_: no it wasnt01:17
YukiIkyutaXtreme984, only one way to find out :)01:17
poningrutony_: you have to install java yourself01:17
poningru!java01:17
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tony_k well at any rate it's installed01:17
mykeyukikyuta- i know but i want to press the eject button on the cdrom "useing a laptop"01:17
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Xtreme984YukiIkyuta, I'm asking because my brother can't get his network to work on Ubuntu01:17
tony_I don't remember selecting that by hand but I may have01:17
poningrutony_: I wouldnt be so sure about that can you run java programs?01:17
tony_yes01:18
poningruhmm thats weird01:18
YukiIkyutaXtreme984, there's a list somewhere, I'll find it ..01:18
tony_I tested an app of my own earlier01:18
mykewhy does this pkg keep failing on me01:18
Xtreme984YukiIkyuta, thanks01:18
YukiIkyutamyke, whihc?01:18
mykewhen i try to update01:18
poningrutony_: oh ok01:18
YukiIkyutawhich*01:18
mykelibgnutls1101:18
YukiIkyutaXtreme984, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo  ^^ for your card.01:18
raghutkrag, can see my pvt message01:18
YukiIkyutaThough it says that 5.10 should supprot it out-of-the-box.01:19
poningrutony_: go to /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/01:19
Xtreme984YukiIkyuta, thanks01:19
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tony_k01:19
poningrusee if there is a /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so01:19
YukiIkyutaFujoor! ^^01:19
nelpostoso... a typical kernel compile should take about...01:19
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poningrunelposto: depends on your computer01:19
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mykei downloaded this file and installed it manually and it still doesnt want to say it is installed why is that01:20
myke?01:20
poningrutony_: if its a different version of java obviously it will have different file area01:20
YukiIkyutaWhich file? o_O01:20
tony_yeah01:20
tony_I have the blackdown jre01:20
poningrutony_: oh01:20
poningruyeah you should have said that dude01:20
poningruyeah black java is um kinda not stable plugin01:21
Jowinelposto: 25 minutes on my 1ghz epia. but i compiled what i needed in the kernel and disabled alot of modules.01:21
tony_oic01:21
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tony_ok well it was the one that came up in synaptic01:21
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poningrutony_: imho the program itself isnt stable01:21
tony_I usually try those first and if they don't work then I go somewhere else01:21
Jowinelposto: the more modules - the longer compile time01:21
poningrutony_: yeah true01:21
nelpostoponingru, Jowi: thanks... ok .. so i got some warnings just now (arch/i386/kernel/apm.c:1191: warning: `pm_send_all' is deprecated (declared at include/linux/pm.h:121) ) and similar... is this bad?01:21
Jowinelposto: nope, just a warning01:22
Xtreme984YukiIkyuta, this is gonna help a whole bunch :D01:22
tony_so go to sun's website and download their version?01:22
nelpostoJowi, sweet... fingers crossed. When I compile this, can i still choose between old and new kernel or...?01:22
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YukiIkyutaXtreme984, good luck?^^01:22
Jowinelposto: when you do "make gconfig" or whatever, deactivate as many deprecated options as you can.01:22
Xtreme984thanks01:22
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poningrutony_: yeah take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats01:22
MrFartshey does anyone know whether there is a syslogger which supports redirection to a process ?01:22
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YukiIkyutaMrFarts, to a *process*? How do you do that?01:23
MrFartsYukiIkyuta, you tell me01:23
YukiIkyutaMrFarts, that would be difficult. :)01:23
tony_see the problem is that I'm not real good with linux yet... so configuring stuff is err difficult if it's anything more than an apt get install whatever01:23
CarinArrhey, i've just installed qt4, had qt3 installed before.. it didn't seem to overwrite qmake and moc so i relinked them to moc-qt4 and qmake-qt4.. However, when using qmake then make, /usr/bin/ld can't find -lpq.. i've checked and libpq IS installed.. does anyone know why it's not able to find it?01:23
MrFartsYukiIkyuta, no it wouldn;t01:23
Jowinelposto: yeah, if you don't overwrite your old kernel files. before installing the kernel, make backup copies of your old stuff01:23
MrFartsYukiIkyuta, that's what pipes are for :)01:23
poningrutony_: make sure to uninstall the blackdown before you do install sunjava01:23
YukiIkyutaMrFarts, but you can't just establish a pipe to an already-created process.01:23
tony_k01:23
YukiIkyutaUnless you imply one that *isn't* created. xP01:23
tony_way ahead of you01:24
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MrFartsYukiIkyuta, you can pipe output to a new process01:24
YukiIkyutaOf course, to a *new* one.01:24
YukiIkyutaBut for some reason I assumed you meant connecting to one which was already up. o__O01:24
MrFartsYukiIkyuta, this is what i would like to do01:24
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tony_what about java-gcj?01:24
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YukiIkyutaHm.01:24
tony_leave that one or 86 it?01:24
SeveasYukiIkyuta, named pipes or redirecting to the pty of the process01:24
poningruremove it aswell01:24
MrFartsYukiIkyuta, actually it's probably be faster to write to a fifo01:24
tony_k01:24
YukiIkyutaYou have a point.01:25
MrFartsSeveas, do you know whether any of the sysloggers will write to a fifo ?01:25
YukiIkyutaSeveas, true.01:25
tony_and java common?01:25
SeveasMrFarts, they won't unless you replace their output file with a fifo :)01:25
poningruI dont think that will cause much problems01:25
tony_k01:25
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MrFartsSeveas, i guess i could do that, although i would prefer to write both to a file and to a fifo01:26
nelpostoJowi: what exactly should I backup? Also i just read that I will need to compile myself restricted modules packages...for me the fglrx driver... is this just another 'make' command or more?01:26
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YukiIkyutaMrFarts, a fifo to a program that writes to another fifo and the file?01:26
YukiIkyuta^^01:26
MrFartsi suppose i could put output both into a file and into a fifo01:26
MrFartshmm01:27
MrFartsthat would work :)01:27
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debuggerhello01:27
SeveasYukiIkyuta, look at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5504 for inspiration01:27
Jowinelposto: backup /vmlinuz, /initrd.img /boot/vmlinuz and initrd and maybe config files. no idea about fglrx01:27
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debuggeryou guys known a tool to enable the use of the "windows" key?  when I press "Windows" + "1", it prints "1" :/01:27
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Badm4nEXTERNAL_TCP_ALLOW="80 443 22" <--- work for my client only or for my server too ?01:28
Seveasdebugger, system -> prefs -> keyboard01:28
poningruyeah what he said01:28
Badm4nEXTERNAL_TCP_ALLOW="80 443 22" <--- work for my client only or for my server too ? ( ipmassq A*)firewall01:28
MrFartsSeveas, you inadvertently gave me an idea, thanks01:28
nelpostoJowi: ok thanks01:28
SeveasMrFarts, :)01:28
poningruwait its keyboard shorutcut01:28
poningrunot keyboard01:29
YukiIkyutaSeveas, I love proc. ^^;01:29
poningrudebugger: ^^^01:29
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Seveasproc is cool01:29
Xtreme984can I play MP3s on Ubuntu???01:29
tony_lol everything's running slow cause I'm installing a source dedicated server on here so I can try running a CS:S server01:29
SeveasXtreme984, yes01:29
Seveas!tell Xtreme984 about mp301:29
debuggerSeveas, I've been there, but didn't figure out what to change :(01:29
tony_it's been installing random crap for hours01:30
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Xtreme984ah, Seveas thanks01:30
Seveasdebugger, 'windows key maps to meta' and then set shortcuts in keyboard shortcuts to use 'meta + something'01:30
debuggerSeveas, I was able to set some keys tho, gconftool-2 --type string --set /apps/metacity/global_keybindings/switch_to_workspace_$n "<Mod4>$n"01:30
debuggerSeveas, I see. thx :)01:31
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debuggerSeveas, you known how "Meta" relates to "Mod4"?01:31
zzybernow i really need help, after my struggle with cupd.conf for getting my ubuntu to act like a printer server supporting windows with printer i reinstalled cups, now i dont have the conf files and cups wont start........what can i do?01:31
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ablmhello there..01:31
Badm4nEXTERNAL_TCP_ALLOW="80 443 22" <--- work for my client only or for my server too ? ( ipmassq A80firewall )01:31
Seveasdebugger, both are different modifyers01:32
ablmdoes someone knows how to add unstable paks in synaptic ?01:32
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poningruablm: what do you mean unstable paks?01:33
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debuggerSeveas, humm, but now, when I press (on the Keyboard Shortcut application), say, Windows+R, I get <Mod4>r.  Its seems Meta and Mod4 are the same?01:33
tonyyarussoI'm trying to follow the directions at http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/42578/ to install thinkpad modules, and running into trouble.01:34
Gambit-Is there an ubuntu widget for managing iptables/masq chains?}01:34
tonyyarussoI need to build the thinkpad-modules package from thinkpad-source.01:34
debuggerSeveas, "now" is after changing the windows key behaviour like you said :)01:34
tonyyarussoAnd I don't know how to do that.01:34
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ablmponigru: I mean.. i need to install gtk 2.4...01:35
tony_ok ok so now it installed everything to a folder on my desktop01:35
tony_where do I need to move all this crap to?01:35
ablmi ve tryed to compile it.. but i miss gnome-sharp..01:35
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tonyyarussoThe make step in /usr/src/modules/thinkpad/2.6/drivers/ returns /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build: No such file or directory.01:36
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tonyyarussomake error 2.01:36
ablmponigru: Are there some unstable repository in ubuntu like there is in gentoo ?01:36
tonyyarussoAnyone know what I need to do?01:36
poningruablm: there are backports01:37
poningrutonyyarusso: do you have build essentials?01:37
poningru!info build essentials01:37
quadra[ !unload : no module with this name ] 01:37
Badm4nEXTERNAL_TCP_ALLOW="80 443 22" <--- work for my client only or for my server too ? ( ipmassq A80firewall )01:37
poningru!info buildessentials01:37
quadra[ !unload : no module with this name ] 01:37
ablmi also have backports... :/01:37
tonyyarussoponingru: I'm not sure.01:37
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poningrutonyyarusso: search your synaptic or apt-get01:38
poningru!build-essential01:38
ubotuponingru: Do they come in packets of five?01:38
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poningru!info build-essential01:38
quadra[ !unload : no module with this name ] 01:38
ubotubuild-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 11.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB01:38
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poningrucan soemone take out this quadra bot?01:39
tony_poningru, I downloaded the install and it installed everything into a folder on my desktop01:39
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esoterichad a raided machine one disk died so boot from second.. but im getting a "L 99 99 99 " error (lilo i know) so must be old lilo install on the disk. so i wanted to install grub over it but with install disk i cant skip to the "install grub" section... keeps running me back to the setting up partitions section.. can anyone help?01:39
poningrubrb01:39
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tony_do I move the whole folder to another location or am I gonna have to split it up to all it's various locations?01:39
YukiIkyutatony_, its*01:39
tony_whatever01:39
tonyyarussoponingru: Already newest version.  Yes.01:39
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tony_I know I'm just typing fast01:40
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Xtreme984@YukiIkyuta, my brother's happy that it works :) MSN QUOTE " LINUX UBUNTU PWNS GAY PEOPLE:P "01:40
YukiIkyutaXtreme984, I'm glad!! ^__^01:40
YukiIkyutaBut what's he got against gays? XP01:40
Xtreme984I dunno, he was just joking around01:40
YukiIkyutaHaha, I know, so was I. ^^;01:41
Alex_BOHELLO!I'm looking for a program in linux like Album Wrapper in windows.can anybody help me?01:41
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peterretiefextconf.rb:1:in `require': no such file to load -- mkmf (LoadError)01:42
peterretiefoops01:42
peterretiefthe error above, i see there is a xmkmf01:42
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peterretiefbut no mkmf01:42
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mykehey when i do a apt-get upgrade i get a a error of "bad header line"01:44
mykehey when i do a apt-get upgrade i get a a error of "bad header line"?01:45
mykeany reason for this?01:45
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illustregood morning01:47
Gambit-mornin'01:48
illustrei just install live cd on a toshiba laptop everything got detected and working fine01:48
YukiIkyutaEvening. ^^01:48
illustrei would like to know if from here i could do an install onto the HD to wipe entire windows and keep ubuntu01:48
YukiIkyutaillustre, an install CD will do that for you.01:49
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Mirza___EXTERNAL_TCP_ALLOW="80 443 22" <--- work for my client only or for my server too ? ( ipmassq A80firewall )01:49
illustrei dont have one, how many cd's are they to download them01:49
YukiIkyutaMirza___, that's a very random request without context.01:49
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YukiIkyutaillustre, just the one, or you can get one shipped to you (free!) via ShipIt.01:49
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illustrewill ship is not an option since i would like to do asap01:50
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YukiIkyutaillustre, in that case, you can download the ISO.01:50
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illustreI AM VERY impress how fast it is even witha live cd which is slower the normal01:50
YukiIkyutaDefinitely.01:50
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YukiIkyutaillustre, where do you live? I'll find you a fast mirror.01:51
illustreeven the wireless nic is working :-)  which is what i am using now01:51
illustrelive in NEW YORK01:51
YukiIkyutaOK.01:51
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YukiIkyutaillustre, x86, AMD64 or PPC?01:52
illustrei would have to download to another machine correct, or can i download here where i am running the live cd01:52
illustrex8601:52
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YukiIkyutaillustre, probably to another machine, yes.01:52
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YukiIkyutaillustre, http://mirror.yousendit.com/ubuntu/5.10/ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso is the one you want.01:52
illustreok will do thanks01:52
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illustreare u good with gnomemetting i would like to try thias b401:53
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YukiIkyutaillustre, I've never used it.01:53
illustrei think i might even install edubunto on my kids machine01:54
YukiIkyutaillustre, I don't know if that's exactly what you would want.01:54
YukiIkyutaEdubuntu is for schools.01:54
rambo3and school sucks01:55
YukiIkyutarambo3, that's rather random - why do you say that? :)01:55
tony_school doesn't have to suck01:55
illustrehow `can i su to root ?01:55
illustreon the live cd01:55
rambo3use sudo01:55
tony_for example... if you teach chemistry to high schoolers, you get to blow things up for a living!01:55
YukiIkyuta!tell illustre about sudo01:56
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tonyyarussoponingru, are you back yet?01:57
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t4c0is Ubuntu specially geared towards new linux/unix users or can an experienced user who likes to build a minimalistic system enjoy ubuntu like he would .. say .. gentoo ?01:59
YukiIkyutat4c0, you should find it works for both fine. ^^;01:59
dragoont4c0: yea01:59
Gambit-t4c0, I'd say yes, but nothing beats gentoo for sheer obtuseness :)01:59
dragooni use gentoo aswell - both good for own things02:00
t4c0one more thing .. on what version of debian is ubuntu based ?02:00
illustrestrange, i mounted the ntfs as rw but i cant delete a file from the  win partition,  is this possible ?02:00
t4c0the latest version of ubuntu i mean02:00
YukiIkyutaillustre, unfortunately, we have no NTFS write support.02:00
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YukiIkyutat4c0, well, presumably at one point they branched off, and from there is the version of Debian, but the packages are kept in sync as best as possible.02:00
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illustrewhats the real issue that complicates that to rw to ntfs02:01
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Jowii think there is a rw ntfs support as a kernel option that is not marked as "experimental" any more.02:01
Xtreme984hm.... I can't set up the multiverse repository :(02:01
YukiIkyutaillustre, it's just not easy.02:01
seenohandhelp..how can i change the desktop theme color from brown to blue02:01
Xtreme984seenohand, right-click on your desktop and there should be an option at the bottom of the menu02:02
seenohandok..will do now02:02
Jowiseenohand: download a blueish theme from art.gnome.org and choose it in the theme-manager.02:02
tonyyarussoseenohand: System > Preferences > Desktop Background works too.02:02
Jowi!themes02:02
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seenohandthe desktop background didnt work02:03
Jowiwow, that was alot of links02:03
t4c0thanks02:03
illustrei agree that default brown them is kinf od ugly :-)02:03
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seenohandso ugly the computer is shuttin itself off02:04
kvidellI may use Enlightenment instead of gnome but keep the OpenBox elements.02:04
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Xtreme984hm... how can I add the multiverse repository??? it doesn't pop up in the repository list02:05
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illustrei am persuading my wife to switch from win to ubu  what would be the equivalent of paintshop here in ubuntu02:06
seenohandno theme in art.gnome.org02:06
bungleillustre, gimp02:06
illustrethats what i thought,  need to find a good tutorial for her then02:06
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bungleguess so illustre ,  should be plenty online try their website02:07
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afd_http://pastebin.com/453942   <- can someone help me resolve this? I'm trying to upgrade to draper, but the dist-upgrade process was stopped by this error02:10
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Jowiafd_: maybe you should uninstall mplayer, continue with the upgrade, then re-install mplayer.02:11
afd_Jowi, yeah, I've just uninstalled it (together with some other stuff), and the upgrade process started again (by itself)02:12
Jowihad the same prob upgrading to breezy from hoary with the openoffice app.02:12
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marcwhy is it that when I put in my USB Jump drive it says I do not have permission to write to it, it says I am not the owner02:13
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spolafirefox crashes *a lot* here, sometimes it even crashes when i try to run it !! when i go to pages with flash/or whatevr embedded its *likely* to crash02:14
Jowimarc: you should add something like this to your /etc/fstab: /dev/sda1       /media/camera vfat defaults,user,umask=000      0       002:14
N6REJI need to recursively search through a folder and change all instances of " "  to "_" how can I do this?02:14
spolais there anything i can do about it other then switching to mac os x?02:14
Jowimarc: the "umask=000" make it writable for everyone02:15
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marcOk I will try02:15
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tonyyarussoN6REJ: rename 's/ /_/g' *  (replace * with something more sane if you don't want to match *everything*) will do the folder you're in; I don't think there is a good way to do it recursively.02:16
Gambit-so what's the recognized PHP distribution to be installing, or should I just try to build it from source?02:16
tonyyarussoN6REJ: I tried to get that same answer; I can pastebin the whole conversation if you'd like.02:17
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N6REJtony, yes please02:17
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Trendkillhey guys, ive got an ubuntu server running and i want to have the system uatomatically update itself with chron every day but i dont want the updates to break anything. do i just leave the ubuntu security updates repositories or can i add the other reps as well without being afraid of breakage?02:17
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Gambit-automatic updates on a production machine?  Fear02:18
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N6REJtonyyarusso: I bet perl could do this...  seems to me its something to do with ... for in case do02:18
tonyyarussoN6REJ: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/550502:18
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N6REJtonyyarusso: ty, I'll co read it.02:18
TrendkillGambit-, i sort of had the same reflex02:19
tonyyarussoN6REJ: You're on the right track; the stuff within the apostrophes is a perl expression.02:19
Gambit-Trendkill, it's a smart reflex, listen to it02:19
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tonyyarussoN6REJ: Sorry about the lines being to long in the paste.02:19
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frontovikhi, does ubuntu include motif? thanks!02:20
N6REJtonyyarusso: ok, I vaguely remember doing something like this with perl for in statements...  Thanks02:20
TrendkillGambit-, hehe...but arent secuirity updates supposed to not break anything...specifically samba....i knoiw that the config file can bea problem between versions02:20
tonyyarussoN6REJ: np02:20
crimsunfrontovik: enable universe and multiverse. There are lesstif and motif packages.02:20
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Gambit-Trendkill, honestly, are you going to trust anyone else saying, "This won't break anything, but just fixes a security hole in the middle of a binary file by fiddling with critical functionality, but it'll work fine, honest!"02:21
_jasonN6REJ,  tonyyarusso, I seem to remember putting /*/ in the s/ /_ and getting rename to go a level down.  So with some proper escaping it may be doable although I'm not sure how exactly02:21
Gambit-Trendkill, that's why you have staging machines and production machines, to test this stuff out first.02:21
TrendkillGambit-, i trust slackware to do it02:21
frontovikcrimsun: universe and mutiverse are window managers, yes? thanks!02:21
Gambit-Trendkill, scary you are02:22
TrendkillGambit-, lol...02:22
Gambit-Trendkill, what is this "trust" you keep saying?02:22
TrendkillGambit-, something i heard yoda talk about once02:22
N6REJ_jason: well, I'll invest some time researching it, because i"ve got over 1000 folders to do.  Its my Music directory02:22
N6REJ_jason: 17g worth!02:22
Gambit-Trendkill, yoda was workin' for the dark side mac02:22
TrendkillTrendkill, lol. well i guess ill take your advice and do the updates myself02:23
Gambit-glad to see you're listening to yourself02:23
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TrendkillGambit-, but i will just stick to the security updates repository though...02:24
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TrendkillGambit-, thanks for the feedback!02:26
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dpuppwierd! i cant convert a wav to mono in audacity... the option is grayed out. anyone know how its done?02:27
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marcI am still haveing problems with my jump drive02:28
marcit says it is read only02:28
rambo3whats a jump drive02:29
Jowiyou did the changes to fstab?02:29
marcit is a usb flash drive02:29
marcyes02:29
Gambit-marc, what filesystem is on it?02:30
Jowigive me the fstab entry with only the line with the drive02:30
marcit was originally being used on my system when I had XP02:31
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marc/dev/sda1       /media/PUBLIC vfat defaults,user,umask=000      0       002:32
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Jowilooks ok. "sudo umount /media/PUBLIC" and then "sudo mount /media/PUBLIC"02:33
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tonyyarussoponingru, Are you here?02:33
rambo3you can change defaults to rw,user ...02:34
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Jowirambo3: should work anyway, i have the exact same entry that works fine.02:34
marcit said unmount command not found02:34
rambo3unount02:35
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irvinmarc, umount02:35
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marcoh02:35
Jowigotto eat. bbl02:36
marcnow says media/PUBLIC not found02:37
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rambo3sudo umount /dev/sda102:37
Aero-kunhello, i have a question regarding the installation of ubuntu02:38
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YukiIkyutaAero-kun, go for it!02:38
marcumount: /media/PUBLIC: device is busy02:38
holycowhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards  <-- what does "supports network install" mean on this page for wireless cards02:38
diubidonehey guys is there any probs w reps?02:38
marcthis is what I got02:38
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diubidoneor is it just me?02:38
Aero-kunok, i want to run a dualboot system, with both windows and ubuntu02:38
YukiIkyutaholycow, ie. you can install straight from the network, via PXE or otherwise.02:38
holycowYukiIkyuta, install what?02:39
tonyyarussoAero-kun: I'm doing that now.02:39
YukiIkyutaholycow, Ubuntu!02:39
Aero-kundoes ubuntu has his own bootsoftware or do i have to install bootmagic or something like that02:39
holycowohhhh, pxe support built in ... i getcha02:39
holycow:)02:39
YukiIkyutaAero-kun, it comes with it! ^^02:39
YukiIkyutaGRUB.02:39
Aero-kunok, i knew red hat had it but i wasnt sure about ubuntu, thnx ^^02:39
rambo3i dont know about usbs , and i dont think that fstab should be the way to mount it .02:39
tonyyarussoAero-kun: Grub works like magic for me, even boots to my IBM Recovery partition.02:39
Aero-kunok thats great, that means i can install it later:)02:40
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Aero-kuni can get to GRUB just by selecting a custom install right?02:43
ptlobuahahahahah02:43
YukiIkyutaAero-kun, `custom'?02:43
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ptloone guy just went to ubuntu.org website, decided that Ubuntu (the distro) is a communistic bullshit, and intends not to install it02:43
ptloman, what a misunderstanding02:43
Aero-kunuhm i mean expert install02:43
hwti want to run an ubuntu based router from a cf card.02:43
YukiIkyutaCommunistic!?02:43
hwtare there any projects for ubuntu on ramdisk?02:43
YukiIkyutaptlo, where did you hear that!?02:43
YukiIkyutaAero-kun, yep, of course!02:43
Aero-kunok^^02:44
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BushitoHello, can any send me a link for the w32codecs? =302:44
Jowiptlo: that must be the first :)02:44
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monteirohow i activate the control + alt + backspace that was enabled in hoary ?02:44
YukiIkyutamonteiro, it should work anyway!02:45
tonyyarussomonteiro: Should work the same right away.02:45
Jowimonteiro: it's disabled for you?02:45
monteiroyes02:45
Bushitomonteiro: system > preference > keyboard shortcuts02:45
BenUrbani installed xorg-fglrx-drivers but the driver does not appear to be anywhere on my system.  where is it supposed to show up?02:45
rambo3fglrxinfo ?02:46
BenUrban...02:46
graymanyou can see in package properties02:46
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rambo3in terminal02:46
graymanbut why you need it?02:46
BenUrbangrayman: what package properties?02:46
sorush20how do install the batch processes for the img programs and other programs?02:46
ptloYukiIkyuta: one paranoia-stricken guy on some other irc network. first, he got to the site that has no connection to the Ubuntu distro, and then he promptly declared the stuff he read there as communist02:46
BenUrbangrayman: i need it because x won't start without it02:46
ptloJowi: yeah :) really funny :)02:46
monteirowell, control + alt + backspace works :P sorry about the silly question02:47
graymanaha02:47
YukiIkyutaxD02:47
grayman!fglrx02:47
ubotufglrx is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto02:47
BenUrbansigh02:47
BenUrbani followed that already02:47
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graymanhmmmm02:47
YukiIkyutaptlo, and hey, what's wrong with communism anyway? :) But seriously, some people like that ...02:47
graymandid you install it properly?02:47
monteirowhen i move things in nautilus, its easy to crash , thats normal ?02:47
BenUrban...02:47
graymani mean02:47
Jowimonteiro: not normal at all.02:48
rambo3no02:48
BenUrbangrayman: i did apt-get install xorg-fglrx-drivers02:48
graymandid you do all that wruitten there?02:48
BenUrbanyes02:48
rumplefordoes anybody here know how the traveling salesman problem works in c? and are willing to help me program a program to find the optiml route02:48
graymanwhat about xorg.conf editing?02:48
BenUrbanthe kernel module does not exist02:48
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licksjphello02:48
Aero-kunone more question? how does one mount a ntfs drive, i want to set up a file server02:48
Bushitohow can i enable real transparency on gnome?02:48
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BenUrbangrayman: i ran dpkg-configure xserver-xorg02:48
rambo3rumplefor , first google. no one does your homework.02:49
graymanerm dunno about that. i edited it manually02:49
Jowi!tell Aero-kun about windowsdrives02:49
BenUrbangrayman: i also tried using my ubuntu xorg.conf02:49
BenUrbanerr02:49
ptloYukiIkyuta: well we're from a country that has lived under it for a long time, and apart from being totalitaristic it had brought with it some other stuff (like joining several nations in one country, and then having a preferred one, etc), and when we got out of it we had a war, all in the name of communism...soo...it doesn't bring positive feelings, really02:49
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BenUrbangentoo02:49
irvinis fridge down?02:49
graymanhmmmm02:49
graymanalso02:49
ptloYukiIkyuta: but that is beside the point here. the guy's nuts anyways :)02:49
graymanwhat kernel you use?02:49
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rumpleforrambo3: thanks but I dont need anyone to do my homework, I only need help02:50
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BenUrban2.6.12-9-38602:50
rambo3then join a channel that you program in c c++ java php02:50
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graymanand you got the drivers for 386?02:50
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BenUrbanrumplefor: still, that question has nothing to do with ubuntu02:50
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BenUrbangrayman: ...02:50
BenUrbangrayman: i installed whatever drivers it was supposed to install02:51
rumpleforlol everyone there thinks I want them to do my homework :)02:51
rambo3hrvat manje politike02:51
graymani just checking02:51
YukiIkyutaptlo, I see what you mean!02:51
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YukiIkyutarumplefor, what is it for, then?02:51
ptlorambo3: i hate politics, i won't engage in discussion about it02:51
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xukunis there a good tool or program to test my hardisk? I have the feeling that my hardisk isnt ok02:53
YukiIkyutaxukun, in what way?02:53
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Seveasxukun, apt-get install smartmontools02:53
xstI have installed the mozilla-plugin-vlc package but it uses the wrong audio device as default. If I run vlc from the command line the correct audio device is used. How can I configure which audiodevice to be used for the firefox-vlc player?02:53
xst(that is: there is no sound)02:53
xukunYukiIkyuta, bad sectors and things like that02:54
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YukiIkyutaSpeaking of bad C, I appear to have created something that has a stack over 20000 frames long ..02:54
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SeveasYukiIkyuta, wow :)02:54
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Seveasthat's... a lot...02:54
Fujoorexit02:54
YukiIkyutaI don't know how I did that ..02:54
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SeveasYukiIkyuta, bad recursion? too much pass-by-value of large structures?02:55
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YukiIkyutaSeveas, bad recursion indeed! I tried `f -1' to select the `first from last' frame, but of course gdb doesn't support this and froze my system for a good 10 seconds then returned.02:55
blue-frogjust to remind me pls, breezy is compiled with gcc4, correct?02:55
SeveasYukiIkyuta, :)02:56
Seveasblue-frog, everything but the kernel is indeed gcc 402:56
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licksjpI installed the ubuntu today02:56
Gus2http://photo-club.org/02:56
licksjpIt was nice OS02:56
blue-frogoh kernel is gcc3.3?02:56
mcphail3.402:56
Gus2Russian ?02:56
blue-frogty02:56
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YukiIkyutaOops..02:57
YukiIkyutaHad randomint() calling randomint(). o_O02:57
Seveasrofl :)02:57
holycowmornin all02:57
chorsehello food02:58
Seveashint: drand48(), rand(), /dev/urandom ...02:58
chorseerr holycow :)02:58
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YukiIkyutaAnd now I'm mixing up ANDs and ORs.. what *is* wrong with me?!02:58
holycowdoes anyone know how to force firefox to use the default fonts specified in options?  i have helvetica installed on my system and whenver a page suggests helvetica as an option foxy decides to ignore the defaults setup ... any ideas?02:58
SeveasYukiIkyuta, coffee deprivation?02:58
YukiIkyutaSeveas, possibly, probably moreso because I don't drink coffee but it's 1am anyway =__=02:58
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holycowey :)02:59
Seveasmv /proc/YukiIkyuta /dev/bed && sleep02:59
YukiIkyutasleep: too few arguments02:59
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YukiIkyutaBecause you can't sleep without an argument about it!02:59
YukiIkyuta(in this case, after it)02:59
SeveasYukiIkyuta, sleep --force --now --until-you\'re-awake-again03:00
Nikusanholycow, have you got the Always use my fonts box ticked?03:00
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holycowNikusan, doh!!!!!03:00
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holycowdamnit, actually its 'uncheck the website can choose their own font'03:01
holycowheh i'm a retard03:01
holycowthx :)03:01
Nikusanno probs03:01
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xukunSeveas, I installed smartmontools but now if I do "smartctl --all /dev/hda03:02
xukun" dan I get "SMART Disabled. Use option -s with argument 'on' to enable it." what I,m missing here?03:02
Seveasxukun, read the documentation :)03:02
xukunSeveas, I have done that03:02
Seveas(read that as: I don't have a clue, but the docs probably have)03:02
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YukiIkyutaxukun, perhaps "smartctl -s on --all /dev/hda" ?03:02
YukiIkyutaJust a guess.03:02
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SeveasYukiIkyuta, I thought you went to bed?03:04
YukiIkyutaSeveas, I'm in bed. With a laptop. With an XDMCP[sp?]  client open. >___>;03:04
Seveaswhy XDMCP?03:04
Jowiprobably the "--until-you\'re-awake-again" switch fault03:04
NikusanI want to develop wx Apps in Anjuta, I've got basically every wx related package from the repos installed, can anyone help?03:04
YukiIkyutaAlright, VNC.03:04
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xukunYukiIkyuta, thanks03:05
YukiIkyutaxukun, yay!03:05
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SeveasYukiIkyuta, vnc is even worse :)03:06
YukiIkyutaSeveas, what's the alternative? oO03:06
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YukiIkyutaJust openening X clients?03:06
SeveasFreeNX03:06
YukiIkyutaoO03:06
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BenUrbanok i managed to get into x...03:09
BenUrbannow i have another problem03:09
BenUrbansudo doesn't work :/03:09
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BenUrbanwhen i tryto use sudo, it asks me for my password, and then ignores it03:10
YukiIkyutaBenUrban, typically that means it didn't ignore it, it worked!03:10
YukiIkyutaWhat's an example when you used it?03:10
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soundrayBenUrban, it ignores passwords when they are wrong...03:11
BenUrbanit's not my password that it ignored03:11
BenUrbanit's the command03:11
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mustard5is there anything I should think about before installing the latest .deb for gtk-gnutella from sourceforge?03:11
BenUrbani type sudo <anything> and it ignores <anything>03:11
soundrayBenUrban, that's what I mean.03:11
BenUrban...03:11
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YukiIkyutasoundray, it'll complain about the password, actually. I think.03:12
afd_I've upgraded to dapper, but I don't like the new blue color for the controls. I've tried some theme variations, but I really like clearlook, just not the color used now. How could I change it?03:12
soundrayYukiIkyuta, not here, just checked.03:12
BenUrbani've never seen sudo do that in gentoo...03:12
BenUrbanand i use it exclusively there03:12
YukiIkyutasoundray, on incorrect password, I get "Sorry, try again."03:12
JowiBenUrban: so what command did you try to execute?03:12
BenUrbanwel, for example...03:13
BenUrbanwhen i type sudo bash03:13
soundrayYukiIkyuta, BenUrban, my fault. I tried an empty password instead of a wrong one.03:13
soundraysorry...03:13
YukiIkyutasoundray, that *will* do it, however.03:13
BenUrbanit asks for the password, and then drops me back to my shell prompt03:13
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YukiIkyutaBenUrban, what command do you try?03:13
BenUrbanwhen i do whoami, it says benurban (instead of root)03:13
soundrayBenUrban, sudo bash is insecure, anyway.03:13
BenUrbanyeah i know03:13
JowiBenUrban: well, bash doesn't seem to do anything if you're already running it so that should be ok.03:14
BenUrbanbut i couldn't think of another example offhand03:14
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JowiBenUrban: sudo cat /etc/sudoers03:14
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YukiIkyutaBenUrban, "sudo -s" is the correct way to get to bash, anyway!03:14
Jowi(should print the sudoers file)03:14
BenUrbanJowi: nothing03:14
Xtreme984hello all, I'm having a bit of a problem setting up Ubuntu on my computer03:14
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BenUrbanbenurban@lc2430-ubuntu:~$ sudo cat /etc/sudoers03:15
BenUrbanbenurban@lc2430-ubuntu:~$03:15
Jowithat is wierd03:15
Xtreme984I need to make a new linux partition, but all space has gone to my NTFS partition03:15
BenUrbanit is03:15
Nikusanwhat's the problem Xtreme984?03:15
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BenUrbanand it does it with gnome-sudo also03:15
soundrayBenUrban, the sudo in your path doesn't link to 'true' by any chance?03:15
Xtreme984Nikusan, I need to make a new linux partition, but the partitioner it starts, will not cooperate03:15
irvinXtreme984, you'll need to give some space to Ubuntu03:15
BenUrbanlol03:15
Bushitohow can i access my NTFS windows partition form windows???03:15
irvinXtreme984, Partition Magic03:15
BenUrbansoundray: true wouldn't ask for my password ;)03:16
Bushitofrom linux*03:16
YukiIkyutaBenUrban, good point.03:16
kenichiBenUrban: what does "sudo -i" do at your bash?03:16
BenUrban$ echo $?03:16
BenUrban14103:16
soundrayBenUrban, true.03:16
BenUrbanhmmmmm03:16
Xtreme984irvin, there's already a partition manager started from the linux install disc03:16
Jowi!tell Bushito about ntfs03:16
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BenUrbankenichi: same thing03:16
Absenthwith any luck, after today, my laptop will be free of it's Windows XP infection :)03:16
YukiIkyutaAbsenth, its*!03:16
BenUrbanno output, returns 14103:16
soundrayBenUrban, maybe I should keep out of this... sth's not working today.03:16
Gambit---how would I find out what packages lex and yacc are kept in?03:16
kenichiBushito: do you want to access it from ubuntu or windows?03:16
NikusanXtreme984, does the partitioner on the install disc give you the option to resize the existing windows partition?03:17
kenichiBenUrban: hmm, curious03:17
AbsenthYukiIkyuta,  with a little help from the new version of Crossover Office anyway :)03:17
Xtreme984nikusan, yes it does... but it does not work03:17
YukiIkyutaAbsenth, blah! OpenOffice works just as well.03:17
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kenichiBushito: sudo mount -t ntfs </dev/sdxy> </media/mointpoint>03:18
BenUrbanthe only way i was able to get ubuntu to this point was using su...03:18
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BenUrbanand i really don't want to do that03:18
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xaduxif I have configured a server of email and one account dont send the email to specific destiny, what could be the problem?03:18
frogzoo!tell Bushito about ntfs03:19
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kenichiBushito: ntfs is mounted read only03:19
dawnFcan someone help me? Ubuntu doesn't boot anymore and seems to hang when mounting local filesystems03:19
kenichiBushito: you cant and you shouldnt write on it03:19
dawnFi'm not quite sure what i should do next03:19
Jowixadux: you should get a clear error message of why the mail wasn't delivered (host not known etc)03:19
soundraydawnF, did you change anything in the bios setup?03:20
AbsenthYukiIkyuta,  sure, as long as you're not going to school at ITT-Tech where their online courses are EXTREMELY picky about having IE, and MS Office.03:20
dawnFno03:20
frogzooxadux: firewall? DNS? sendmail.conf? perms on /var/spool/mail ?03:20
dawnFi hear my hd doing things but nothing happens03:20
AbsenthYukiIkyuta,  problem 2 is I manage a windows network as my job, so some of the tools I just have to have.03:20
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soundraydawnF, have you tried booting the rescue kernel?03:20
YukiIkyutaAbsenth, I suppose so!03:20
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dawnFit stops at * Mounting local filesystmes and then dev/sdb303:20
dawnFyes03:20
BenUrbanbtw, my sudoers file has two lines that are not commented out:03:20
dawnFthat works soundray03:20
dawnFbut when i then try to reboot,no luck03:20
BenUrbanDefaults        !lecture,tty_tickets,!fqdn03:20
YukiIkyutaAnd Absenth, I'm both going to and working at the one school, and I'm trying to convert them to Ubuntu, slowly. ^^03:21
BenUrbanroot    ALL=(ALL) ALL03:21
Xtreme984hm... I don't feel like having to erase my entire harddrive03:21
BenUrbandoes that look right?03:21
JowiBenUrban: yes03:21
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dawnFcould this be something with the fstab file?03:21
irvini'm looking at DebootstrapChroot in the wiki03:21
soundraydawnF, with the rescue kernel, are you able to mount /dev/sdb3 from the command line?03:21
sleptBenUrban, do you have a root account/ password enabled ?03:21
irvindo i have to manually install this: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/debootstrap/debootstrap_0.3.1.6ubuntu1_all.deb?03:21
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dawnFi'll try03:21
JowiBenUrban: you should also have %admin  ALL=(ALL) ALL03:21
irvinor just do apt-get install dchroot debootstrap?03:21
BenUrbanslept: how do i check?03:22
dawnFi'm going to reboot, just a minute03:22
YukiIkyutairvin, the latter. They'll do the same thing.03:22
JowiBenUrban: that'll make members of the admin group being able to use sudo03:22
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sleptBenUrban, do you remeber the password for root ?03:22
BenUrbanslept: of course ;)03:22
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mustard5BenUrban, you would also need to make sure you are part of the admin group if you add that line...03:22
Xtreme984<_<03:22
dawnFsoundray: strange thing i did a ctr alt F4 and i'm able to boot03:22
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dawnFhow can this happen?03:23
BenUrbanooh hmm03:23
irvinYukiIkyuta, i'm running on breezy and want a dapper chroot03:23
mustard5BenUrban, alternatively you could just add your user name instead of %admin03:23
BenUrbanjust noticed that i forgot to add my benurban group03:23
dawnFany suggestions to check fstab or the consistency of the drive?03:23
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Absenthon a somewhat related note, how do I go about installing the older version of GCC, since the kernel wasn't compiled with 4.0.2?03:23
soundraydawnF, no idea. Perhaps your /var/log/syslog has some error message relating to the problem.03:23
rambo3dawnF you have all info on wiki03:23
BenUrbanoh03:24
YukiIkyutaYukiIkyuta, interesting!03:24
BenUrbancorrection: i forgot to change the gid for benurban03:24
BenUrbanheh03:24
SeveasYukiIkyuta, you're talking to yourself - get some sleep :)03:24
dawnFi'll check that03:24
dawnFthanks03:24
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Xtreme984can anyone tell me why the install disc can't resize my current windows partition?03:24
SeveasAbsenth, apt-get install gcc-3.403:24
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clem_yeatsXtreme984: I didn't even know it was supposed to support this feature..03:25
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YukiIkyutaXtreme984, it's not going to.03:25
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Xtreme984YukiIkyuta, why not?03:25
JowiBenUrban: so create it :) and add yourself to it03:25
AbsenthSeveas, Danke.  There will be maybe 2 or 3 more questions as they come up during this install.  :)03:26
YukiIkyutaXtreme984, it doesn't know how! You'll have to do that via some other means.03:26
BenUrbanshouldit get a specific gid?03:26
Xtreme984ok, so I'll just go and search for partition magic then, thanks all03:26
clem_yeatsno prob, good luck Xtreme98403:26
mustard5BenUrban, try just using your username instead of %admin03:26
BenUrbanwtf i can sudo now03:26
YukiIkyutaXtreme984, shouldn't be too hard. :)03:26
JowiBenUrban: admin is 4 for me03:26
BenUrbani replaced %admin with benurban03:26
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BenUrbanand now i can sudo03:26
YukiIkyutaSeveas, ... I didn't even notice that.03:26
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BenUrbanhmm03:27
BenUrbani have a gid 4 called "adm"03:27
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BenUrbanand i'm in that group03:27
JowiBenUrban: argh, sorry, misread. you're right03:27
Absenthwhat was the command to point the c compiler to gcc 3.4?03:27
JowiBenUrban: should be "admin" is 10903:28
BenUrbanah03:28
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JowiBenUrban: "id" should list them all03:28
BenUrbanJowi: 109 is messagebus03:28
mustard5Absenth CC=gcc 3.4?03:28
goo_Could anyone please tell me how I get my hands on a libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3) that goes with breezy ? I am having a hard time installing lincvs03:28
Absenthmustard5,  that's what I'm looking for, thanks.03:29
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mustard5Absenth, I recall an EXPORT command after that..but my recollection is hazy :)03:29
JowiBenUrban: shouldn't matter which gid you use i think.03:29
BenUrbanok03:29
YukiIkyutaAbsenth, export CC=gcc-3.403:29
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pinkisntwellhow can I limit the diskspace taken up by trash?03:30
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tedheya03:31
AstxistNTFS-fs error (device hda5): ntfs_ucstonls(): Unicode name contains characters that cannot be converted to character set cp437. <- anyone have an idea how to fix that?03:32
rambo3its not like its reserved like in xp03:32
Astxistclogging up my logs03:32
afd_who put that ugly blue color in clearlooks on dapper?03:32
mustard5goo_, I don't think breezy uses that lib03:32
tedi think i may have screwed up my sources.list in some stupid way.  anyone know where i can find a default / clean copy of it?03:32
dawnFi'm not sure about my fstab config anymore, is there a way to get fstab autoconfigured again?03:33
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soundraydawnF, I don't know, but if you paste your fstab on pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl, I'll try and help you debug it.03:34
goo_mustard5: lincvs depends on it, anyway. Maybe I have some stray sources..03:34
Absenthhow do I download the appropriate kernel headers for my system?  and get them to the standard /usr/src/linux/include/ folder in a somewhat standard fashion?03:34
Astxistted, I have the orginal copy from my install if you want it I know of no other way atm03:34
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AbsenthI know it's apt-get install something :)  running the i686 kernel03:35
mustard5goo_, breezy uses libqt3-mt 3.3.3.403:35
BenUrbanok, next question: how do i hide my sticky notes?03:35
mustard5goo_, you might be able to edit the dependencies for the package to point to that lib03:35
tedAstxist:  that would be awesome, thanks03:35
afd_Absenth, linux-source or something03:35
rambo3if you download kernel headers (uname -r ) thay will be in /usr/src03:35
rambo3with apt or synaptics03:36
dawnFsoundray > i pasted it as fstab dawnnf03:36
dawnFi mean fstab dawnf03:36
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mustard5goo_, I wouldnt know how to do it, but I know that that particular lib causes quite a few issues for example it is used for the skype .deb at the skype website03:36
Astxistted, might need to change the au. bits and it's for 5.10 of course03:36
mustard5goo_, it was necessary to edit the skype package to use the newer lib that breezy uses03:37
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tedastxist: that's cool.  i'm using 5.10.  many thanks!03:37
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Astxistted, np03:38
Aron_FigaroHey guys - I just got a Samba share set up on this machine and for some reason my Windoze box can't see it. what's going on? When I boot the same box to Linux, it works.03:38
illustrehow would i install amsn with synaptic03:38
soundraydawnF, do you have a /dev/sda at all?03:38
JowiAron_Figaro: windows firewall maybe03:38
afd_my gnome just got a ton uglier by installing dapper :(03:38
dawnFsoundray > is there a way of telling?03:39
djibanyone is in dapper here ?03:39
frogzooafd_: things will get uglier yet ... :)03:39
dawnFi think i have an sda for my windows partition03:39
djibnautilus keeps on crashing03:39
djibit won't even start03:39
djibwhat could I do ?03:39
soundraydawnF, how many hard drives in your machine?03:39
dawnFbut i commented it out because of the trouble with booting03:39
frogzoodjib: don't use dapper, of course03:39
dawnF2 hd's03:39
afd_frogzoo, what can I do give a feedback on this?03:39
mustard5djib, wait for them to fix it?03:39
mustard5djib, if you are going to use a development release then you have to expect that it will break regularly03:40
soundraydawnF, and your first hd is for another OS I take it?03:40
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dawnFi suppose so03:40
InS4Neserver libres.irc-hispano.org03:40
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djibbut mustard5 how can I know if it is my computer or just dapper ?03:40
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frogzooafd_: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/bugs/document_view03:41
Aron_FigaroJowi: No software firewalls running, and it's all local.03:41
soundraydawnF, are your drives on a SATA, SCSI, USB or firewire bus?03:41
afd_frogzoo, thx03:41
Aron_FigaroJowi: Ah wait, yeah, buggy Windoze firewall03:41
dawnFSATA03:41
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Jowi:)03:41
Aron_FigaroJowi: Riiiiight. Lemme see if that's blocking my own LAN03:41
dawnFand one lacie on usb03:41
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illustrei need to install amsn i see is not possible to do with synaptic what would be another way ?03:41
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YukiIkyutaillustre, it *is* possible from AMSN.03:42
AngryParsleyhey, just how stable/useful is the x86-64 version of ubuntu?03:42
Ngillustre: enable the universe repository and you can use synaptic03:42
YukiIkyutaMake sure universe and multiverse are selected.03:42
YukiIkyutaAngryParsley, I'm running it right now. It's very useful!03:42
NgAngryParsley: it's fine if you don't care about things like windows codecs03:42
dawnFsoundray, do you think the problem is the fstab file or perhaps the drive itself?03:43
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soundraydawnF, apart from the fact that you are booting Ubuntu from your second hd, I can see nothing special or faulty in your fstab.03:43
enois there a newer distribution than 5.10?03:43
Aron_FigaroJowi: Where the heck did they move it to??03:43
YukiIkyutaNg, well, that too. x__x03:43
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dawnFit's strange isn't it03:43
YukiIkyutaeno, 6.4 is in the works, but 5.10 is latest.03:43
AngryParsleyNg: well... that sucks03:43
enocause I did sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and it did not work03:43
frogzooeno: there is dapper - which is _not_ stable03:43
illustrei dont see the universe reposi....03:43
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enomy mother is _not_ stable03:43
JowiAron_Figaro: no idea. also check that the workgroup is the correct one in windows. Linux defaults to MSHOME while windows defaults to WORKGROUP03:43
soundraydawnF, if booting works all right at the moment, I wouldn't worry about it for now.03:43
dawnFso it seems to hang while i'm mounting my drive, but if i do the ctrl alt f4 i get passed it03:44
dawnFsoundray, i haven't tried rebooting it03:44
AngryParsleyYukiIkyuta and Ng: is it that hard to upgrade to it?03:44
YukiIkyutaeno, your *mother*?03:44
Aron_FigaroJowi: Yeah, took care of that one already.03:44
mustard5djib, I don't know ... which is why I stay away from dapper :)03:44
YukiIkyutaAngryParsley, `that' hard? I installed 64-bit straight on.03:44
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enoyeah... I use the computer from Alien, get over it03:44
Xtreme984<_< still no partitionmagic boot disk found :(03:44
AngryParsleyYukiIkyuta: well I'm running normal 32 bit ubuntu right now, and I don't want to format and reinstall03:44
YukiIkyutaHahaha.03:44
JowiAron_Figaro: then its most likely the firewall03:44
djibmustard5, yeah... it makes sense03:44
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YukiIkyutaAngryParsley, ah, I see.. I have no experience with upgrading Ubuntu myself, I'm afraid ><03:45
djibwhen will the stable dapper be released ?03:45
AngryParsleycan I just change my sources or something or do I have to reinstall?03:45
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soundraydawnF, perhaps it's hanging on something different altogether. Is your boot screen graphical (big Ubuntu logo)?03:45
dawnFyes03:45
mustard5djib, six months after the breezy release03:45
NgAngryParsley: you can't upgrade to it03:45
illustreng: how do i enable that03:45
dawnFbut that worked before03:45
NgAngryParsley: you will have to reinstall03:45
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AngryParsleyNg: oh, do I have to wipe the partition I'm installing to?03:45
Ngillustre: there's a repositories page if you search the wiki03:45
YukiIkyutaAngryParsley, how many partitions no your system?03:45
djibI thought that dapper was a bit like debian sid which is fine03:45
AngryParsleyYukiIkyuta: 203:45
soundraydawnF, do you know how to change that? It might reveal what the real problem is.03:45
dawnFit's doing things fine, in the graphical mode, but escapes it when it comes to mounting the local filesystems03:45
djibbut is seems way more unstable03:45
NgAngryParsley: no, you could install over the top, but it would be messy03:45
YukiIkyutaAngryParsley, root and swap?03:45
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AngryParsleyYukiIkyuta: oh, 3 then03:45
Aron_FigaroJowi: Alright, Windows isn't letting me even see the firewall screen, at least not where its own documentation says it should be03:45
YukiIkyuta!repositories03:45
ubotuhmm... repositories is How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list03:45
AngryParsleyroot, swap, and a 200 gig backup drive03:46
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mustard5djib, breezy was only just released in October..so dapper development is still in its infancy03:46
AngryParsleyI can easily fit all my root stuff on my 200 gig drive, but I wanted to save time03:46
JowiAron_Figaro: that's typical. :) must make a call, i be back in a while03:46
djibyeah03:46
dawnFjolly jolly! this time it DID boot fine03:46
AngryParsleyok, so backup my system drive and grab a 64 bit ISO03:46
Aron_FigaroJowi: LOL03:46
AngryParsleythanks for you help guys03:46
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frogzoohow can I turn off power to my lappy CD drive ?03:46
dawnFwho said computers are exact science ;-)03:46
AngryParsley*your help03:46
soundraydawnF, so you're all set?03:46
dawnFthink so, thanks a bunch soundray!!!03:47
YukiIkyutadawnF, very true!03:47
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soundraydawnf, I didn't really have any part in it... :)03:47
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dawnFyeah, i'll just touch wood from now on ;-)03:47
Absenthok, I give up, which application do I use again to unzip bz2 files?03:47
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Absenthgunzip -d filename.tar.bz2 isn't cutting it.03:48
soundrayAbsenth, bunzip2?03:48
frogzoobunzip2 would you believe?03:48
Absenthbunzip2.....    that explains why bunzip didn't work.03:48
jl0gikw00t! I got my wireless running03:48
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soundrayAbsenth, also try tar jxvf03:48
Absenththanks.03:48
YukiIkyutaAbsenth, `tar jxvf'03:48
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YukiIkyutaAbsenth, and `tar zxvf' for .tar.gz's.03:48
illustrewhat would be easier syhnaptic or apt,  i am just testring this out i appretiante any feed back to install packages that id not come with the live cd03:48
AbsenthYukiIkyuta,  good to know,  I didn't know the j switch.  well versed in xvfz  :)03:49
YukiIkyutaAbsenth, ^^03:49
frogzooillustre: synaptic is great 2 begin with03:49
enoyeah03:49
dawnFthanks again soundray, looks like i'll be able to work today afterall03:49
dawnFbye for now03:49
soundraydawnF, cheers.03:49
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illustrei typed amsn and it does not come up03:50
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YukiIkyutaillustre, you installed it, right? ^^;03:50
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Gandalf20000|awahi all03:51
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Gandalf20000|awahab gerade ein kleines problem mit meiner ubuntu distibution, bzw. kde oder allgemein dem x-server03:51
soundrayGandalf20000|awa, bitte geh zu #ubuntu-de03:51
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Gandalf20000|awathx03:52
illustreYukiIkyuta, no it does not show to install just on the left pane by itself cant install03:52
JowiAron_Figaro: back. you managed?03:52
Absenththe linux-headers package gets installed to /usr/??? when installed via synaptic?03:52
Sammy76does ubuntu work with j model prescotts?03:53
Absenthor better still, how would I (using synaptic) determine where it is going to put things (that whole teach a man to fish bit...)03:53
tanekdoes anyone know which port to open to be able to hos battle.net games?03:53
illustreYukiIkyuta, is it possible to install with synaptic or is it just to upgrade packages03:54
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frogzooSammy76: ubuntu works on all 386 arch03:55
Aron_FigaroJowi: Nope.03:55
frogzooand plenty else besides03:56
Aron_FigaroJowi: this thing's a royal pain in the arse. I know the config's right on the server machine though. :)03:56
aleitnerIs the breezy-update archive working? I saw that a new evince version (which fixes a segfault) entered it a couple of days ago, but the archive does not yet contain the corresponding .deb...03:56
JowiAron_Figaro: no Zonealarm or anything?03:56
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Aron_FigaroJowi: Nah, I've got a good hardware firewall :)03:56
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infernallwith FTP, which end determines the PASV ports to use?03:57
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JowiAron_Figaro: great. so disable the windows firewall totally as well03:57
infernallFor instance, if I use vsftpd, and tell it to use ports 3500-3600 for pasv, what makes the client actually use these ports?03:57
Aron_FigaroJowi: that's what I'm trying to do03:58
Aron_FigaroJowi: but it's not letting me even see the damn screen ><03:58
illustreYukiIkyuta, can you shed morel light how to install amsn with synaptic03:58
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YukiIkyutaYukiIkyuta, you can install, of course.03:58
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aleitnerdoes anybody know where one can get (source-)packages after they have been accepted but before they are built?03:58
YukiIkyutaOh fuck, I'm talking to myself again.03:58
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frogzooinfernall: that's the whole thing about pasv - the ports are opened by the client03:58
YukiIkyutaillustre, yes, you can install AMSN. Did you enable the universe repository?03:58
illustrei dont see where to do that03:58
infernallfrogzoo, so the client must be configured per host to use specific ports for pasv?03:59
frogzooinfernall: yup03:59
YukiIkyuta!tell illustre about repositories03:59
infernallalright, thanks.03:59
AbsenthDoes anyone have any suggestions about the following error?    The directory of kernel headers (version 2.6.12-10-686) does not match your03:59
Absenthrunning kernel (version 2.6.12-9-686)03:59
Aron_FigaroJowi: $#%#ing thing...is there anywhere other than the "Internet Connections --> LAN Connection --> Advanced" tab where I can disable that firewall?03:59
Aron_FigaroJowi: Because it's totally not displaying that tab.03:59
JowiAron_Figaro: XP, 2000 or 98?04:00
YukiIkyutaAbsenth, the kernel headers installed don't match the one running!04:00
Aron_FigaroJowi: XP04:00
YukiIkyuta(note that 2.6.12-10 != 2.6.12-9)04:00
Jowiw804:00
frogzooAbsenth: you're trying to compile a kernel, but your headers are wrong - interesting your headers are more recent04:00
Aron_FigaroJowi: Which is why I'm digging, I used to sysadmin 2k04:00
YukiIkyutaOr not compile a kernel, but just rather, you're doing something that needs the right headers.04:01
YukiIkyutaAnd they're not the right ones.04:01
Aron_FigaroJowi: of course I lock my networks down like Fort Knox at work, which I don't really like right now XD04:01
YukiIkyutaSo install the right ones!! ^^;04:01
frogzooYukiIkyuta: headers are used for compiles & nothing else04:01
AbsenthYukiIkyuta, frogzoo, yeah I gathered that,  Synaptic doesn't have a headers 2.6.12-9 option....   And this is for installing vmware, it needs to create a kernel module.04:02
JowiAron_Figaro: just remembered, replaced XP for 2000 pro here. should be in the controlpanel, Firewall (the shield icon)04:02
YukiIkyutafrogzoo, I'm aware, but I meant to remove saying `not compile a *kernel*' - in this case, vmware.04:02
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YukiIkyutaAbsenth, there's no kernel-headers-2.6.12-9 ?04:02
YukiIkyuta(I see one!)04:02
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rambo3vmware = licence , has people that are payed for  support04:02
Aron_FigaroJowi: O.o...that doesn't exist, and I just read some documentation that says it'll only install if you aren't behind a hardware firewall04:03
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Aron_FigaroJowi: Since I'm behind my router there isn't a win-firewall up04:03
AbsenthYukiIkyuta, my bad, I'm a moron....04:03
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JowiAron_Figaro: can you ping the linux machine04:03
Jowi?04:03
NecrocideHow do I make my windows partition re-write?04:03
YukiIkyutaNecrocide, you can't!04:03
Necrocide:(04:03
Absenthrambo3, yeah....  Just what I want to do, spend 3 hours on the phone with someone reading from a script.04:03
Aron_FigaroJowi: Yah.04:03
clem_yeatsNecrocide : fat or ntfs ?04:03
YukiIkyutaAbsenth, glad you found it!04:03
NecrocideI can not copy anything from it .(04:04
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rambo3dont forget cop/paste e-mails04:04
frogzooAbsenth: don't understand how your kernel is 2.6.12.9 - I'm on breezy here, & kernel is 2.6.12.1004:04
YukiIkyutaNecrocide, oh, *that*.04:04
NecrocideNTFS04:04
raimianhow do i setup internet to use my ics from my xp system??04:04
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YukiIkyutaNecrocide, you should be able to copy directly from NTFS onto your filesystem.04:04
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Necrocidehmm04:04
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YukiIkyutaNecrocide, make sure the umask is set, it's mounted, et.c04:04
clem_yeatsNecrocide : ntfs is read-only..04:04
glickexcuse me does anyone here know alot about networking?04:04
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JowiAron_Figaro: maybe go to network connections, right-click on the LAN, properties. should be a tab there with the firewall ("protect my computer")04:04
illustreYukiIkyuta, thanks   it worked, need to give laptop to wife see if she lives this new look :-)04:04
YukiIkyutaillustre, congrats. ^^04:04
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glickim trying to subnet a class C network into 3 subnets with 32 hosts, 64 hosts, and 160 hosts04:05
glickso for the first routing entry i have this...04:05
YukiIkyutaglick, is this for CISCO?04:05
YukiIkyutaxP04:05
LoPMXhmm04:05
frogzooglick: we don't do peeps homework here :D04:05
clem_yeatslol !04:05
LoPMXwhat packages do i need to install to compile sources?04:05
glicksubnet 192.48.69.192 with a mask of 255.255.255.19204:05
YukiIkyutaLoPMX, build-essentials04:05
glickis that right?04:05
NecrocideDamn I thought I could copy some school stuff from there :P04:05
LoPMXYukiIkyuta: thanks04:05
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glickfor 32 hosts?04:05
YukiIkyutaglick, this definitely sounds like CISCO work to me. xP04:05
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frogzooglick: -> #cisco04:05
Aron_FigaroJowi: That was the first thing I did04:05
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raimianhow do i set up my internet to access my ics frm my xp system???04:06
frogzoo!ics04:06
ubotuTo share your intenet connection on eth0 with a LAN on eth1, make sure you don't have a firewall that interferes. Then run: iptables -t nat -A OUTPUT -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE; sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1  Ask me about <simple firewall>04:06
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JowiAron_Figaro: then i have NO idea. Using samba here works great from the win2k box only after i disable zonealarm. before that win can't find any local nets04:07
rambo3i need to lean iptables some day04:07
frogzoosnap04:07
LoPMXi need to shag04:07
deltronlol04:07
Aron_FigaroJowi: Yeah...figured it's trying to block itself. I figure the firewall's on and it's just not letting me mess with it.04:07
clem_yeatsLoPMX : aptitude search shag04:08
raimianthe internet comes from my xp system to my network, how do i setup ubuntu to access it04:08
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JowiAron_Figaro: oh, and i added "hosts allow = 192.168.0." in /etc/samba/smb.conf to only allow connection from withing the lan04:08
LoPMXclem_yeats: thanks04:08
clem_yeatsLoPMX : welcome.. lol04:08
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Nikusanis the xp systems ip 192.168.0.1 raimian?04:08
Aron_FigaroJowi: Yeah.04:08
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LoPMXclem_yeats: ;] 04:08
raimianyes04:08
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clem_yeatsraimian : add default gw xp_ip_address04:09
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LoPMXclem_yeats: found it, but i need new forked version - shag-twins04:09
raimianhow do i do that??04:09
clem_yeatsLoPMX : don't forget the condoms.. it's BETA version !!!04:09
virus-13salut a tous  qui parle  francais  ici04:09
clem_yeatsraimian : just type it in a shell...04:09
LoPMXclem_yeats: will keep in mind, thanks04:09
JowiAron_Figaro: now with screenshots, see the bottom one: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/learnmore/icf.mspx04:09
raimianwhats a shell??04:09
clem_yeatsvirus-13 : linux-fr pour le Francais..04:10
Nikusanraimian, applications -> accessories -> terminal04:10
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clem_yeatsraimian : a command line interpreter..04:10
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Aron_FigaroJowi: Did that. Like I said, there's no Advanced tab.04:11
JowiAron_Figaro: you're logged in as admin then?04:11
illustreYukiIkyuta, thanks again  it did install04:11
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raimianit says add command not found04:11
YukiIkyutaillustre, no problems, I'm glad it works.04:11
Nikusanraimian, goto system -> administration -> networking04:12
AbsenthYukiIkyuta, Seveas, frogzoo, soundray, Thank you all for your assistance in getting vmware up and running on my system.04:12
Dr_Willisraimian,  learning the shell --->  http://linuxcommand.org/learning_the_shell.php04:12
rhubearWhich channel for asking question about smp kernel image not booting?04:12
Aron_FigaroYeah. I'll create a new admin account and see if that fixes it.04:12
frogzoocool04:12
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soundrayAbsenth, glad it worked.04:12
raimianok what do i do now??04:13
clem_yeatsraimian : sudo route add default gw 192.168.0.1 (assuming this is your XP box IP)04:13
mbruemmer#ubuntu-de04:13
Aron_FigaroJowi: Yeah, k, admin check just to make sure it didn't change my account since I created it.04:13
Aron_FigaroJowi: I'm good as admin04:13
nathanjhow do i seach pakcages and find out what package a shared lib is in?04:13
christianphi all04:13
clem_yeatshi chris04:14
raimianwhere do i type that in??04:14
markrianDoes Ubuntu come with the Luxi fonts? XFree86 comes with these by default, but it doesn't seem XOrg (or Ubuntu) does...? Can someone shed some light on this>?04:14
christianpi want to start a zope instance into a secondary disk, but this is the output: bash: ./runzope: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied04:14
christianpwhat's the matter?04:14
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clem_yeatsraimian : in a shell.. ...04:15
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frogzoonathanj dpkg -S if the lib is installed04:15
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YukiIkyutachristianp, chmod +x ./runzope04:15
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clem_yeatsraimian : shell, CLI, command line, terminal, console.. <-- all the same04:15
YukiIkyutaThen try again.04:15
CarinArrmarkrian, if you check the information in synaptic on the package xfonts-scalable04:15
CarinArrmarkrian, it's because of licencing04:16
jorgeuhow doI install libCg.so and libCgGL.so ?04:16
clem_yeatsraimian : somewhere in the menus there's a link to "Terminal"04:16
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christianpYukiIkyuta, i did chmod 777 -R to the whole folder, but nothing changes.. however i'll try, thanks04:16
YukiIkyutachristianp, that's a somewhat dangerous and probably not good idea xP. On the other hand ,you could just try "sh ./runzope"04:16
markrianCarinArr, ah thanks - for some reason it didn't occur to me to do 'apt-cache search luxi' :p04:17
raimianiv typed it in what do i do now??04:17
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clem_yeatsraimian : now... "ping google.com"04:17
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infernallok, i can disable pasv mode in vsftpd, but it still says it supports pasv when i conenct to it04:17
CarinArrmarkrian, the t1-xfree86-nonfree and ttf-xfree86-nonfree has the luxi fonts tho04:17
MP3yeurhello ! (french user, no response on ubuntu-fr)04:17
markrianCarinArr, yup :) apt-cache is useful04:17
Nikusanraimian, you need to find out the DNS server that your xp machine is connecting to04:18
christianpYukiIkyuta, with sh... all was right04:18
frogzooMP3yeur: bonjour - ca va?04:18
raimianit says unknown host04:18
CarinArrmarkrian, :D04:18
MP3yeuri ve a problem with my color laser printer04:18
Nikusanraimian, that's because you need to find out the DNS server that your xp machine is connecting to04:18
MP3yeuryes man !04:18
christianpYukiIkyuta, but don't worry for security, i'm testing it in a loca machine04:18
Jowiraimian: try "ping -c 5 216.239.39.104"04:18
YukiIkyutachristianp, ah, yes, but still, there's no excuse for sloppiness! ^^04:18
christianpYukiIkyuta, :-)04:18
frogzooqu'est ce que le probleme?04:18
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clem_yeatsraimian : alternatively you can ping this : "ping 212.27.32.177"04:19
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MP3yeuri search a driver for epson Color Page EPL-C820004:19
raimianthat worked04:19
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clem_yeatsraimian : which one ?04:19
MP3yeurje cherche un pilote pour cette imprimante04:19
raimianthe first one04:19
Jowiraimian: so your DNS is not working. your internet connection is fine04:19
Nikusanraimian, the pings work, but the machine cant resolve domain names like "google.com"04:19
clem_yeatsping -c 5 216.239.39.104 that one raimian ?04:19
raimianyep04:19
clem_yeatsok04:20
YukiIkyuta!fr04:20
ubotuVa a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais04:20
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clem_yeatsthen you need to set your DNS.. open /etc/resolv.conf04:20
Nikusanraimian, you should be able to find the dns server you need in the tcp-ip connection settings for the internet connection on the xp machine04:20
MP3yeuryes but no response04:20
YukiIkyutaI see ..04:20
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infernallI hate ftp.04:20
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YukiIkyutainfernall, that's something we can all agree on.04:20
Jowiraimian: sudo network-admin. click on the DNS tab and put in the DNS to your isp04:20
YukiIkyutaIt seems to be even worse than HTTP at doing its job; file transfer.04:20
infernallwouldn't be bad if server and client didn't ignore my port settings04:20
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YukiIkyutaxP04:21
YukiIkyutaThe protocol itself is simply not designed for firewalls.04:21
frogzooMP3yeur: peut etre http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-BJC-820004:21
MP3yeurif you can help me to find a driver or another tips to use my epson color laser04:21
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CarinArri can't remember the last time i used ftp04:21
clem_yeats sudo network-admin, lol .. using the click:// protocol ? :)04:21
raimianmy xp system has it all set to obtsin atomaticly04:21
infernalli need to use FTP with specific ports, thats the problem.04:21
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MP3yeurfrogzoo : merci !04:21
frogzoobon chance04:22
clem_yeatsraimian : you can try using your XP IP address as the DNS.. or 212.27.32.177 and 212.27.32.17604:22
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blinalguien podria ayudarme con ndiswrapper y ubuntu???04:22
=== xester good morning
MP3yeura va tre drole encore - it will be fun !04:22
CarinArr!es04:22
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:22
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raimianwhere do i put that in??04:22
frogzoobien sur04:22
clem_yeatsblin : no se habla espanol aqui... puede decir su pregunta en ingles ?04:22
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blinchannel #ubuntu-es04:23
Jowiraimian: either in DNS tab in network-admin or /etc/resolv.conf04:23
clem_yeatsfrogzoo : en Anglais s'il vous plait..04:23
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frogzoooh all right clem_yeats - party pooper04:23
clem_yeatsraimian : sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf04:23
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MP3yeurclem_yeats translation is not bad ;-)04:23
Jowiraimian: if you edit resolv.conf by hand you add a dns server like this one "nameserver 212.27.54.252"04:23
bliny como voy a ubuntu-es04:24
clem_yeatsraimian : then remove the lines beginning with nameserver04:24
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christianpYukiIkyuta, but only typing sh ./runzope it works!!!! What's exactly the matter? a path problem?04:24
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blin#ubuntu-es04:24
frogzoohey clem_yeats, what's french for sudo? *runs away*04:24
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YukiIkyutachristianp, typically, a permissions problem. Look carefully at the permissions of runzope04:25
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raimianstill doesnt work04:26
christianpYukiIkyuta, runzope has -rwxrwxrwx . Is it enough?04:26
Jowiraimian: can you ping the dns servers you have? if not, then your isp dns servers are down at the moment.04:27
YukiIkyutachristianp, indeed, it should run from typing "./runzope" alone.04:27
raimianmy isp must be working im talkig to you through it04:28
frogzooJowi: careful - not all DNS servers ping these days - best to test with nslookup04:28
Jowifrogzoo: never had that problem :)04:28
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nathanjfrogzoo: ./avi-ogminfo: error while loading shared libraries: libavcodec.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory04:29
christianpYukiIkyuta, no. :-(04:29
christianpit says: bash: ./runzope: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied04:29
Jowiraimian: well, you're not using dns to chat. can you ping them or not?04:29
YukiIkyutachristianp, that's really, really weird! I'm not sure why that is.04:29
raimianwhat do i type to ping them04:29
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Jowiraimian: "ping -c 5 dnsaddress.2.3.4"04:29
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christianpYukiIkyuta, ok, thanks anyway04:30
Jowiraimian: my dns is 212.27.54.252 so i would type "ping -c 5 212.27.54.252"04:30
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raimiani dont know that my dns is, im new to computers04:30
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Jowiraimian: you need to find out. should be in the papers from your isp.04:31
MP3yeurpeut-on (mme si a fait bricolage) utiliser un pilote d'impression windows sous linux ?04:31
frogzooMP3yeur: c'nest pas possible04:31
JowiMP3yeur: not likely.04:31
MP3yeursh...t !04:31
Jowi:)04:32
potushello, im tring to create a system backup of / on /.  i am entering the following command ' tar cvjpf archive.tar.bz2 / ' it keeps erroring out when it tries to add itself to archive.. how can i prevent this.. i tried all kinds off --exclude --exclude-file commands.. someone please help04:32
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Jowithat's not a french word! hehe04:32
MP3yeurim in the ....04:32
xaduxhey if I have configured sendmail, I can send emails to aol.com?, because when i try it, i have an error telling me that I cant send it...04:32
raimiannope it was all atomatic04:32
Sammy76anyone think they can help me get this to install04:32
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Jowiraimian: then all you can do is call them and ask.04:32
frogzoopotus: to backup / - you need to catch device files in /dev/  - tar can't handle these - use cpio/dump instead04:32
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davidwinter_hey all04:33
MP3yeuri will destroy this epson ...04:33
potusfrogzoo: it did it fine.. the /dev/..04:33
davidwinter_is there an apache2 gui?04:33
Nikusanraimian, you can find the dns in the connection settings in xp, I'm sure of it04:33
raimianits all set to automatic04:33
potusfrogzoo: can u give me a cpio backup string. i spent 4 hours messing with man yesterday with tar i dont think i got it in me for cpio =/04:33
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Nikusanraimian, even if it was all automatic, the primary and secondary dns ips will be in there04:34
MP3yeurcan i use another service that CUPS ?04:34
frogzoopotus: try just --exclude=/tmp & do it from /tmp04:34
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MP3yeurmuch better if possible ?04:34
Nikusanraimian, try looking around in the tcp-ip stuff, there will be another tab or an advanced button or something04:34
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xaduxhey if I have configured sendmail, I can send emails to aol.com?, because when i try it, i have an error telling me that I cant send it...04:35
raimianiv tryed there is nothing in the dns bit04:35
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Dr_WillisMP3yeur,  cups is becomng the standard printing system. If theres one better - i dont know of one.04:36
potusfrogzoo: this look right? ' tar cvjp --exclude=/tmp -f archive.tar.bz2 / '04:36
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frogzoopotus: looks ok to me...04:37
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whiteknighthey all04:38
NightSkieshi :P04:38
enodoes anyone know of a webpage for setting up php in ubuntu?04:38
whiteknightgosh this channels grown since i was last properly on it04:38
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YukiIkyutawhiteknight, this is the typical load.04:39
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raimianive rang my isp and got my dns address.04:39
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whiteknightYukiIkyuta, along time ago it wasn't :-p04:40
frogzooMP3yeur: what was your model no again?04:40
raimiando i go system admin networking, and put it it there??04:40
YukiIkyutawhiteknight, must've been. ^^04:41
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whiteknighthehe04:41
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Jowiraimian: yep, in the dns tab04:41
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marshhello evrybuddy!!!04:42
Jowihi marsh04:42
raimiani still cant access the internet04:42
marshdoes anyone know how to reset a password if you don't know the passwd to start with? (without reboot/startup disk)?04:42
marshhey Jowi04:43
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Jowiraimian: give me one of the dns numbers04:43
raimian211.50.160.10004:43
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frogzoomarsh what's the problem?04:44
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raimianor 212.50.160.100  or 213.249.130.10004:44
Jowiraimian: looks as if it is active. wierd. can you ping it (i can't)?04:44
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marshfrogzoo, i've forgotten my username password - trying to log in from xp (using samba), but dont have my password.04:45
raimianhow do i ping it?04:45
Jowiraimian: ah, the 213.249.130.100 works!04:45
Jowiraimian: ping -c 5 213.249.130.10004:46
ulaasany one else have a disappearing applications menu in dapper?04:46
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ulaasit quickly shows itself and then disappears.04:46
marshfrog - I realise that i'm not going to be able to do it even WITH the passwd (a problem with samba i'm trying to solve) but resetting it and starting with a clean plate seems somehow logical!04:46
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neil_mEverytime Chuck Norris roundhouse kicks someone an angel gets its wings. But Chuck Norris hates angels. So everytime an angel gets its wings it also gets a roundhouse kick from Chuck Norris.04:47
raimianwhat do i do now??04:47
AbsenthI'm likely missing something simple here, but what would be the best way to unzip an actual .zip file from the command line?04:47
Elektrochelovekcardinfo shows my ericsson gc85 egde card as ttyS2, but when i try minicom --noinit /dev/ttyS2 i got no responce;/ Whats the problem, how to debug?04:47
YukiIkyutaneil_m, concise.04:47
Jowiraimian: add 213.249.130.100 into the DNS tab04:47
YukiIkyutaAbsenth, unzip! Install it if you've not got it.04:47
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raimiani cant ping it04:47
Jowiraimian: you can't? i could.04:47
raimianit says network unreachable04:48
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michukhello. one simple question: How do I display some remote X application on my Ubuntu machine?04:48
Jowiraimian: you have something seriously wrong somewhere. restart that box and try again. that last dns you gave me works fine.04:48
neil_m4Chuck Norris was the one who taught Neo kung-fu.04:48
michukI'd like to export DISPLAY to my Ubuntu machine on a remote server, and then start some X app. I enabled connections via "xhost +" but it doesnt work04:49
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sochi! i have a little problem: i upgraded breezy to dapper, after the upgrade i copied the the ati-fglrx-drivers to /usr/lib/xorg/modules (because of the modularized xorg7). everything works fine, but i cant get the ati-drivers working, it renders with mesa! could someone help me? (i know that dapper is currently unsupported :-) thx!04:49
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frogzoomichuk: just use ssh - it takes care of redirecting x for you04:50
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StyXmanhi all04:50
michuklocally, I can run an X app from let's say, console 1 and it displays on my graphical display (7)04:50
StyXmanI downloaded the orig.tar.gz and .dsc file of linux-source-2.6.15 from dapper04:50
michukbut not remotely04:50
Gran_Maestrohigh everybody, just installed breezy-ppc sound and airport not working, can anybody suggest04:50
frogzoomichuk: ssh04:50
StyXmanand I'm trying to compile it in breezy04:50
enodo you think if I installed Ubuntu server that php would come preconfigured04:51
StyXmanand it fails04:51
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enoie LAMP04:51
skoraGran_Maestro, I'm not sure if airport works with PPC yet04:51
michukfrogzoo: I do use ssh to connect to that remote location04:51
Gran_Maestroit does with the live CD <(04:51
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skoraactually I Think those drivers were just reverse engineered with the past week or so, AFIAK04:51
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skorahmm..04:51
frogzoomichuk: then just run your x app - everything else is done for you04:51
Gran_Maestroskora dei work on the live CD04:51
enois ubuntu server a different ISO?04:52
BlueDevileno: no04:52
skoraahh04:52
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frogzooeno nope04:52
michuk> xterm04:52
michuk04:52
michukxterm Xt error: Can't open display:04:52
frogzooarrgh... - my eyes!!04:52
enowhat the hell then, I am trying it04:52
hmpedersenGreetings..04:52
enolater folks04:52
BlueDevileno: you boot it with "server" at the boot prompt04:52
Gran_Maestroskor I get two internet cards shown up04:52
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enothanks, Duke04:52
Gran_Maestrobut no Airport04:52
michukand when I set DISPLAY to myhost:0 it still doesnt work04:52
skorawhat ones04:52
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Gran_Maestroeth0 eth104:53
skora!airport04:53
ubotuI haven't a clue, skora04:53
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skoraGran_Maestro, do you know how to use pastebin ?04:53
Gran_Maestro!airport04:53
Gran_Maestronope04:53
hmpedersenDoes anyone know how to get smb working properly on breezy? Every computer that tries to connect has to logon, but no username and password is accepted..04:53
frogzoomichuk: try xclock04:53
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yatesyhmpedersen: did you set them up using smbpasswd?04:54
skorawell, go to the command line, type in ifconfig04:54
skoraand then copy and paste those results into http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/04:54
michukfrogzoo: same error04:54
hmpedersenSorry.. Thanks Yatesy.. I've been away from linux too long :)04:54
skoraand then post the link04:54
michukbtw, the remote machine is Suse Standard Edition 8.004:54
michukif that matters04:54
yatesyhmpedersen: np04:54
Gran_Maestroskora, if that one is for me I dont get it04:54
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gesacseducola04:54
hmpedersenGot an old laptop without hdd, decided to install ubuntu when i finally got an hdd for it :)04:55
gesacseducalgum fala portugues?04:55
frogzoomichuk: dunno - usually just works04:55
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skoraGran_Maestro, do you know how to use the command line ?04:55
Gran_Maestroyup04:55
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freelovewhat does "Configuring LTSP chroot" mean?04:55
skorago to a terminal, type in the command: ifconfig04:55
Gran_Maestrook04:56
michukfrogzoo: I know :) That's why I'm asking04:56
skoraand some results will come up, and copy and patste them into a box on that link for paste - http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/04:56
michukbut I had this problem with ubuntu forever04:56
skorathen one you submit the post, it will create another link04:56
michukit doesnt seem to like to open any remote X apps04:56
skoraand paste that link into this room04:56
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soundraymichuk, are you using ssh -X ?04:57
michuknope04:57
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soundraymichuk, well, try that then.04:57
michuktadam :)04:57
michukthanks a lot04:57
michukI usually use solaris machines04:57
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michukand there no -X option is needed04:57
soundraymichuk, you can configure it to use -X by default in /etc/ssh/ssh_config I think.04:58
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frogzoomichuk: I'm guessing /etc/ssh/ssh_config ForwardX11 might help04:58
soundraymichuk, frogzoo has the specifics for you :)04:58
Gran_Maestroskora, it-s done04:59
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michuksoundray: yeah, thanks. I'll just use -X :)04:59
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Gran_Maestrohttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/551004:59
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ubuntu_hello, when installing ubuntu on my laptop it inquired which xserver i wanted to run.  i choose the 1280x800 (my native res) however, once everything is loaded the high res i can pick is 1024x768.   any ideas?05:00
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Gran_Maestroif I type iwconfig it replay no wireless extensions05:00
Gran_Maestroskora, did you get that one?05:01
tristanubuntu_ : do you have an ATI graphic card?05:01
Arrikyes,  i've heard they're not so great with linux05:01
frogzooGran_Maestro: 1st off - upgrade to breezy05:01
tristanArrik : do you have an ATI graphic card?05:01
ArrikYes.05:01
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sic666ciao a tutti05:02
sic666hi05:02
Gran_Maestrofrogzoo, I am on breezy right now05:02
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skoraGran_Maestro, i'm i see the log05:02
testmachineawww05:02
testmachineati :((((05:02
skoraim seeing the log right now05:02
frogzooGran_Maestro: go into network app & enable wireless05:02
testmachinei have the same problem05:02
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tristanArrik : then you have to download the latest ATI drivers on ATI website and iinstall it. After, I can give you my xorg.conf part to make the 1200x800 resolution work05:02
testmachinewith my fscking ati05:02
poseidonhello05:02
juakohiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii05:02
Gran_Maestrofrogzoo, hold on05:02
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testmachinetristan: but no opengl05:02
frogzooGran_Maestro: top right on task bar05:03
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Arriktristan: ok, i'll go get the drivers05:03
poseidonhas anybody installed Firefox 1.5? how can I install it?05:03
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lohnHow to log as root/05:03
Gran_Maestrofrogzoo, thats the problem its not here05:03
tristantestmachine : what's that?05:03
testmachinetristan: 3D graphix05:03
testmachinegraphics even05:04
Gran_Maestrofrogzoo, sorry there05:04
juakoanybody knows how install freetype fonts????????05:04
frogzooGran_Maestro: just click configure - you'll then see wireless05:04
poseidonis there a guide to install Firefox 1.5?05:04
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frogzooGran_Maestro: now click enable05:04
skora!firefox05:04
ubotuskora: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about05:04
raimiannope i still cant access the internet05:04
tristantestmachine : how do you know if openGL is enabled?05:04
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poseidon!firefox05:04
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juakoanybody knows how to install freetype fonts????????05:04
Gran_Maestrofrogzoo, i feel real dumb05:04
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testmachinetristan: glxgears05:04
Gran_Maestrofrogzoo, I cant see it05:05
testmachineof fg_lxgears05:05
testmachineor something05:05
frogzooGran_Maestro: can you see eth0 ?05:05
testmachineglxgears will show FPS05:05
testmachineand glxinfo05:05
tristantestmachine : when I do glxgears I see the wheel turning. Does that mean that openGL is enabled?05:05
frogzooglx_gears05:05
lohnDoes Anyone know how to log as root/05:05
Gran_Maestrofrogzoo, yup05:05
michuksudo su05:05
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testmachinetristan: how many fps is it giving05:05
frogzoosry fgl_glxgears05:06
michuklohn: sudo su or sudo passwd (and set password)05:06
testmachineindeed frogzoo05:06
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tonyyarussojuako: Have you tried just copying them to the fonts:/// location like a truetype?05:06
tristantestmachine : it is laggy but doesn't say any fps05:06
Gran_Maestrofrogzoo, I am no newbee, it just desnt show up I get two eth cards05:06
FunnyLookinHatAnyone know when the ubuntu breezy repos will have Firefox 1.5 ??05:06
Ngthey won't05:06
Gran_Maestrofrogzoo, eth0 and eth105:06
frogzooGran_Maestro: k, then check dmesg for the driver loading05:06
FunnyLookinHatNg, ??  Why not?05:06
testmachinetristan: you are opening it from a terminal?05:06
Ngbut it'll be backported at some point05:06
Gran_Maestrofrogzoo, right05:06
lohnmichuk - Thanks a lot!!05:06
tristantestmachine : yes05:07
Arriktristan: thanks for the help, i'm actually just testing ubuntu in VMware on top of windows to check for initial compatibility.  if drivers and a config file area all that are necessary to get everything working, i'll perma install ubuntu on a dedicated partition05:07
FunnyLookinHatNg, Do you know when backports will support it?05:07
testmachinewill you paste some output05:07
testmachinefrom your terminal?05:07
NgFunnyLookinHat: the ubuntu policy is not to introduce new versions of things after a release, only important bug fixes go in05:07
NgFunnyLookinHat: no05:07
tonyyarussoFunnyLookinHat: You can still get it from the FF web site and do it yourself if you want.05:07
skoraAFIAK, it's actually not going to happen05:07
FunnyLookinHatNg,  Oh ok...  that makes sense.05:07
glickhey does anyone know anything about CIDR05:07
testmachinetristan: will you paste some output from the terminal05:07
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tristanArrik : you might have to make a special boot to be able to install ubuntu but I don't know if it is because of ATI card05:07
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FunnyLookinHattonyyarusso, yea, I guess I'll do it that way, I was just hoping for a synaptic install w/o problems05:07
skorang stole my thunder ^_^05:07
tristantristan@Duran:~$ glxgears05:08
tristanXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".05:08
tristanX connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).05:08
testmachineheh05:08
testmachineok05:08
tristanso?05:08
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tonyyarussoFunnyLookinHat: Yeah, that is always nice.  However, I just did it, and there were no issues for me.05:08
testmachineopengl is prolly not really working05:08
Gran_Maestrofrogzoo, does it need to be compiled in the kernel? problem is I am not using standard kernel as I needed fw support05:08
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frogzooGran_Maestro: module is fine05:08
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tristantestmachine : I don't know of any way to enable both the good resolution and the openGL05:08
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tonyyarussoFunnyLookinHat: See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for instructions beforehand.05:09
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Arriktristan: i'll figure it all out when i do the dedicated install, i just needed someone to point me in the right direction05:09
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frogzooGran_Maestro: but you also need the ieee80211 module as well05:09
skorahey, im trying to figure out why i can get my internet to work on the live cd but no on my install05:09
Gran_Maestrofrogzoo, insmod airport not found05:09
skorait did before, I seriously don't know what I did to bork it up05:09
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tristanArrik : are you on Ubuntu live CD?05:09
frogzooGran_Maestro: recompile I'm guessing05:09
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frogzooskora: u on dsl?05:10
skoracable05:10
tonyyarussoFunnyLookinHat: I did get the "Firefox could not install this item because of a failure in Chrome Registration." message, but only the first time, after closing and restarting FF it was fine.05:10
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frogzooskora: click on network settings top right & enable dhcp maybe?05:10
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skoraim trying to access my logs now, but my drive isn't mounted in the live cd05:10
Xtreme984where can I get a working Partition Magic???05:10
Gran_Maestrofrogzoo, runnin ubutnu on a mac is a pain in the butt :(05:11
Arriktristan: no, i installed ubuntu in VMware, it's all installed, just running on a virtual machine in windows05:11
tonyyarussoponingru, You by the computer again now?05:11
skorafrogzoo, i checked that out before, I got that done.05:11
ydnarhello everyone.05:11
tonyyarussoXtreme984: That depends on whether you mean legally or not.05:11
ArrikBRB05:11
tristanArrik : OK so the only trouble you have is with your screen resolution05:11
skorabtw, thanks for helping frogzoo - you multitasker :)05:11
testmachinetristan: it wont work05:11
frogzooskora: ifconfig?05:11
Arriktristan: yea05:11
testmachineprobably05:11
Arrikbrb05:11
tonyyarussoXtreme984: Legally, in a store or from the Symantec web site.05:11
Xtreme984tonyyarusso I don't care legal or not.... as long as it works...05:11
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Xtreme984that's not gonna work <_<05:11
Chromincan someone please tell me why i can only go to like 5 internet pages. and then have the comp freeze?05:11
tristanArrik : so as tesmachine says you won't be able to have 3D graphics properly rendred. It will be laggy05:12
tonyyarussoXtreme984: Otherwise, I know at one point there was a copy floating around in some of the bittorrent indexes.05:12
skorafrogzoo, im trying to access my ifconfig log file that i saved on my home directory, but i cant mount my drive [its not done automatically, and i forget how to] 05:12
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Xtreme984tonyyarusso where's that?05:12
Gran_Maestrofrogzoo, looks like I have quite a bit of work to fix this one05:12
tonyyarussoXtreme984: Which?05:12
frogzooskora: no no - just the ifconfig command05:12
Xtreme984the bittorrent indexes05:12
skoraright now ?05:12
cricekHmm how can I turn on UDMA on my DVD drive ?05:12
frogzooGran_Maestro: doesn't look pretty - shame, 386 it just works05:12
skoraon my live cd05:12
frogzoocricek: hdparm -d iirc05:13
tristantestmachine : that is what I had understood from my viewing on some BBS05:13
architxman hdparm cricek05:13
Dr_Willis!dma05:13
frogzoocricek: hdparm -d1 /dev/hdx05:13
cricekyeah I used suse before05:13
Dr_Willistype !DMA and read the bot message cricek05:13
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Gran_Maestrofrogzoo, yup problem is that standard kernel has no ieee1293 support hence I am using another one05:13
Chromincan someone please tell me why i can only go to like 5 internet pages. and then have the comp freeze? this has happened sence the first time i started using ubuntu.05:13
cricekfrogzoo, that's just for DMA not for UDMA05:13
cricek!DAM05:14
ubotuNot a clue, cricek05:14
cricek!DMA05:14
skoramy ifconfig on the live cd - http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/551105:14
Dr_Willis:)05:14
skora!mount05:14
ubotumount is, like, totally, the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f05:14
Gran_Maestrofrogzoo, will do my homework however I am real suprised. How to check if airport module is available?05:14
tonyyarussoXtreme984: There isn't just one.  The official site is bittorrent.com, but I think that one has since stopped listing illegal items, so you might try torrentspy.com, suprnova.org, mybittorrent.com, mininova.org, and thepiratebay.org.05:15
Dr_Willisheh - has there been a crackdown on some of those torrent sites lately?05:15
skoraXtreme984, you can use the ubuntu partitioner05:15
skoraDr_Willis, yeah05:15
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Xtreme984Skora, that doesn't work, I just want to resize my NTFS partition, not delete it05:15
Dr_Willisskora,  :) bummer.05:16
Xtreme984I don't want to lose all my files05:16
Dr_Willisskora,  guess they will go back to irc channels and shareing torrent files that way.05:16
gary_Hi, can someone tell me a little about Ubuntu tree structures?05:16
skoraDr_Willis, for those pirates though, when there's a will, there's a way05:16
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tonyyarussoXtreme984: The install partitioner can resize without damage.05:16
sethkXtreme984, back it up, resize it, and restore it05:16
skora:P05:16
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skorasethk, there's an easier solution than that05:16
Xtreme984tonyyarusso, I've tried that earlier... it wasn't working05:16
sethkresizing NTFS partitions is extremely dangerous05:17
sethkskora, not a reliable one05:17
Xtreme984sethk, I have no means of backing up around 40gbs of data05:17
sethkskora, you would be crazy to resize an NTFS partition without a backup05:17
tonyyarussoXtreme984: Ah.  This would be why backups are always handy in general I suppose.05:17
sethkXtreme984, then buy a drive.  they are cheap05:17
Chromincan anyone tell me why i can only browze a limmited amount of internet pages before ubuntu will not alow me to go to anymore pages?05:17
skoraseth_k|away, true05:17
Xtreme984sethk, don't have the money atm...05:17
Gran_Maestrook another question: sound not working in breezy-ppc any suggestion?05:17
frogzooskora: can you ping your router?05:17
gary_Hi, can someone tell me a little about Ubuntu tree structures?05:17
Amaranthsethk: If you truely can't lose the data you'd be crazy to resize any partition but 99% of the time nothing happens.05:18
hmpedersenhow do i restart smb?05:18
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tristanChromin : don't know. Is it only happening when on internet? What browser do you use?05:18
tonyyarussoXtreme984: Do you actually need all 40G?  I went through a similar size drive, and determined I only needed about four CDs worth of it, plus the system disks.05:18
sethkAmaranth, well, I certainly would never resize any partition that isn't backed up05:18
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sethkAmaranth, but then again, I would _never_ even have a partition of any size that isn't backed up.05:18
Xtreme984tonyyarusso, yes it's truly necessary05:18
sethkAmaranth, but my data is all business, nothing that I can tolerate losing05:19
tonyyarussohmpedersen: I think it's something like /etc/init.d/samba restart; let me look for a wiki page...05:19
skorafrogzoo, i can ping other sites when i'm on05:19
skorabut i cant connect to IRC, gaim, or any other service05:19
frogzooskora: so what's the problem? just no www?05:19
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gary_Hi, can someone tell me a little about Ubuntu tree structures?05:20
skoraand when i was on a few mins ago on the other sys, i was able to ping google and yahoo, but i tried to ping slashdot, and i only received one result05:20
Chromintristan : i use the one that came with v5.10. mozilla firefox.05:20
skoragary_, i've seen your q a couple times, sry no one has answered yet :/05:20
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frogzooskora: no big deal - a lot of the big web servers don't respond to ping05:20
skorak05:20
tristanChromin : did you try to reinstall it?05:21
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Xtreme984gary_, what exactly do you mean??? I think it's the same on all linux systems05:21
gary_I'll wait05:21
davidwinter_hi all. how can I enable ssh?05:21
gary_I am a newbee, and I need to find the kernel sources, i just cant find em05:21
hmpedersenThanx.. As i said, ive been away from linux for far too long..05:21
Jowidavidwinter_: sudo apt-get install ssh05:21
Xtreme984gary_, sorry can't help you on that05:21
Chrominive reinstalled the whole ubuntu program like 8 times. and it still does the same thing05:21
tonyyarussohmpedersen: Yeah, sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart, or reload to load the conf.05:21
davidwinter_thanks Jowi05:22
gary_I'm trtying tio install vpn client05:22
Jowigary_: if you have downloaded them from synaptic they will be in /usr/src05:22
deFryskgary_, linux sources05:22
tristanChromin : and you do no hav any trouble except with firefox...?05:22
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gary_I'll look, thanks guys05:22
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davidwinter_is there a way I can connect via vnc if I'm not currently logged onto my ubuntu machine?05:23
Chromintristan : not realy. just when i try and use firefox. i can go about 5 diferent pages before it does not load anymore pages.05:23
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tristanChromin : did you try to use another browser?05:23
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davidwinter_the only current way of connecting to ubuntu is when I'm actually logged in to it05:24
Chromintristan : no. not sure if any other browzer works with ubuntu. kinda new to this operating system05:24
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tristanTry to install opera and run it. That way we will know if it comes from Firefox or from another thing05:25
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gary_I looked in /usr/src but it is empty, even hidden is nothing05:25
Chrominwhere can i get opera?05:25
tonyyarussoChromin: There are bunches of browsers that will work.05:25
hmpedersenFinally :)05:25
hmpedersenThanks, Tony.. Finally got it up running..05:25
tonyyarussoChromin: I believe it's in the universe repo, or something like that.05:25
tonyyarussohmpedersen: Great.05:25
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tristantonyyarusso : do you have any idea where his problem comes from05:25
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markkuhellou05:26
tristanChromin : sudo apt-get install opera05:26
tonyyarussotristan: Not a clue.05:26
rudizwiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser05:26
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hmpedersenI hadnt noticed, the security was commented out, so allways defaulted to 'user'05:26
Chrominwell whats the best browser that i can use?05:26
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hmpedersen(allways uses share in closed networks)05:26
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markkujou05:26
deFryskChromin, safest way is to install opera-static.deb from opera.com05:26
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tristanChromin : I would have said firefox but it seems you cant05:26
cristianQue folia  essa ?05:26
cristianRene vc est por aki ?05:26
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patconnexion02 hello .. how can i configure the user privilege for FTP??05:27
rudizftp://ftp.opera.com05:27
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rudizfor the static version05:27
patconnexionyes05:27
JowiChromin: alot of people like konqueror. i only use firefox though (1.0.7)05:27
hmpedersenI'm off again.. May the Tux Force be with you all :D05:27
tonyyarussoChromin: Firefox is definitely my first choice, but opera does very well too.05:27
gigahey everyone I hate to ask you all but could I have some help with my ipw2200?05:27
Chrominahh. im dling opera now. i will try that05:27
Chrominif that does not work. ill let you all know..05:28
gigaim following this guide05:28
gigahttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2662305:28
Jowichristian: #ubuntu-es05:28
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LoPMX is there any os-x like dock for gnome?05:28
tonyyarussoChromin: I wasn't following the beginning of this; did you already try just reinstalling firefox?05:28
Chrominbut theoreticly. if it does not work what could be the problem with it.05:28
deFryskChromin, also read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser?highlight=%28opera%2905:28
tristanLoPMX : yes and I am using it05:28
JowiLoPMX: not that i've found. there should be one for kde05:29
LoPMXtristan:  which is?05:29
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Jowitristan: which one?05:29
LoPMXhmm, e17 seems to be nice, pretty os x like05:29
Chrominwell tony ive reinstaled the complete operating system min of 8 times already because it has done it from the begining05:29
gigahey everyone I hate to ask you all but could I have some help with my ipw2200?05:29
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JowiLoPMX: it is very nice. but not very stable last time i tried it (3-4 months ago)05:30
tristanLoPMX, Jowi : http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=1354805:30
tonyyarussoChromin: Ick.  Well at least we know that route's been fully explored!05:30
tristanLoPMX, Jowi : you'll have to get the icon themes separately05:30
Chrominum. it wont let me open opera. it is giving me an error05:30
gigaim at this step "sudo sh remove-old"05:30
tristanChromin : which is?05:31
LoPMXtristan: ok, we'll see05:31
Chrominarchive not supported05:31
gigacan anyone help me please?05:31
Jowitristan: that is the most osx like i've ever seen. will try it.05:31
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Juhazgiga, breezy already has 1.0.6, following outdated guides probably isn't going to help05:31
rudizChromin, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser?highlight=%28opera%2905:31
tristanJowi : yes and if you make an addition menu with transparency it looks really great05:31
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gigaJuhaz, I saw that but I cant connect to my AP "WPA" :(05:32
tristanChromin : what did you download?05:32
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tristanChromin : opera.deb ?05:32
gigaJuhaz, and it thats the case I think I messed up man05:32
freemanenis there any list of the news in ubuntu dapper drake?05:32
gigaJuhaz, when i click on the Network Conn. icon on the dock i get an error05:33
gigaJuhaz, no such device05:33
deFryskhttp://www.opera.com/download/ and choose other/static DEB05:33
LoPMXthis is cool - http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=32252&PHPSESSID=3d5ffcdab84c7866579431d2b15d3e8a05:33
Chrominopera_8.51-20051114...t_en_etch_i386.deb05:33
testmachineso your NIC isnt configured05:33
tonyyarussoCan I get some help with a make error while installing configure-thinkpad?  (Following instructions at http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/42578/)05:33
Chrominis what i dled05:33
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gigaJuhaz, is there a way to restore it or reinstall IPW2200 and IEEE8021105:33
gigaJuhaz, im in the middle of this install05:34
Chrominand heres the problem again. went to to many pages.. and wont open the site rudiz game me.05:34
Juhazgiga, um, yeah, probably, let me dig in what packages they are05:34
Chromingave*05:34
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tristanChromin : OK. open terminal and go to the folder where there is opera...05:34
tonyyarussoChromin: I had some trouble with the package from the opera site, but the one from ubunut with apt was fine.05:34
gary_Jowi I looked and it is downladed, but does not show up, even as hidden05:34
tristanChromin : then type sudo dpkg -i opera_8...........05:34
gigaJuhaz, Thanks a lot, I really want to get off of XP if you know what I mean05:35
tonyyarussoI'm thinking I might be lacking libraries or something that make needs.05:35
tristanChromin : else do in terminal sudo apt-get install opera05:35
tristanChromin : it will be easier05:35
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Chrominokay okay.. im lost here sorry.05:35
tonyyarussoMy error: make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.05:36
tonyyarussomake: *** [default]  Error 205:36
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tristanChromin : Where are you lost?05:36
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Jowigary_: for example, if you downloaded the kernel-source-2.6.10 from synaptic, there should be /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.10.tar.gz there05:37
qweoanybody can help with R300 graphics driver?05:37
sethktonyyarusso, the only way that can happen is if you don't have 2.6.12-9-386 installed05:37
Chrominlol.. from the begining05:37
Chrominterminal?05:37
gary_Jowi, there is nothing in that directory. I checked synaptic, and it says installed05:37
tonyyarussosethk: How can I check / fix it?05:37
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Chrominsorry. as i said im new to ubuntu.05:37
gigaJuhaz, i see this05:37
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gigamake -C /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build M=/home/giga/ieee80211-1.0.3 MODVERDIR=/home/giga/ieee80211-1.0.3 modules05:37
giga/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 11: gcc-3.4: command not found05:37
giga/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 12: gcc-3.4: command not found05:37
gigamake[1] : gcc-3.4: Command not found05:37
gigamake[1] : Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386'05:37
giga  CC [M]   /home/giga/ieee80211-1.0.3/ieee80211_module.o05:37
giga/bin/sh: gcc-3.4: command not found05:37
gigamake[2] : *** [/home/giga/ieee80211-1.0.3/ieee80211_module.o]  Error 12705:37
gigamake[1] : *** [_module_/home/giga/ieee80211-1.0.3]  Error 205:37
gigamake[1] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386'05:37
gigamake: *** [modules]  Error 205:37
Jowigary_: which one did you install?05:38
tristanChromin : in Applications - Accessories - Open Terminal05:38
sklavgiga, use pastebin05:38
Juhazgiga, please don't paste long snippets here, use pastebin05:38
Chrominokay im here05:38
Jowi!pastebin05:38
ubotuhmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com05:38
gary_Jowi let me check05:38
christianphow can i choose, with apt, the version i want of a given product?05:38
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Chrominnow what do i type05:38
gigaJuhaz, ok sorry05:38
tristanChromin : you have to type05:38
Jowitristan: the dock is gdesklets?05:38
tristanChromin : sudo apt-get install opera05:39
tristanJowi : ???05:39
Juhazgiga, anyway, kernel has been compiled with gcc 3.4, and it isn't installed by default, so you'll need to install it before you can compile kernel modules05:39
Jowitristan: the osx icons at the bottom, gdesklet theme?05:39
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gary_Jowi linux-inage-2.6.12-9.2305:39
Chromincommand not found05:39
gary_Jowi it was installed when the whole system was installed05:40
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Chrominokay. got it now. but package not found05:40
tristanJowi : it seems that the screenshot is from a MAcOSX directly. Do you want me to take a screen of my desktop to show you how it looks like05:40
gigaJuhaz, didnt that install with this "sudo apt-get install build-essential"05:40
Jowigary_: linux-image does not include the sources.05:40
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tristanChromin : you type "sudo apt-get install opera" without the quotes?05:41
Juhazgiga, nope, that pulls in gcc 4.005:41
Chromintristan : it says couldnt find package opera05:41
tonyyarussoHow do I check what kernel version I have installed?05:41
gary_Jowi I'm new at this, how can I install the sources? I'm need it to install vpnclient from Cisco05:41
Chrominwithout quotes yes05:41
The_Isle_of_Marktonyyarusso, uname -r05:41
gigaJuhaz, do i just do "apt-get install gcc" ?05:41
rudizyou have to use the wiki i pointed u to ,Chromin05:41
sethkgary_, the kernel sources can be installed with synaptic05:41
Jowigary, search synaptic for "kernel-source" and you will get a list of which are available.05:41
tristanChromin : OK. Do you know how to use the command "cd" to change of directory?05:42
tonyyarussoThe_Isle_of_Mark: Thanks.05:42
Chrominwiki?05:42
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Juhazgiga, apt-get install gcc-3.405:42
sklavChromin, you need to enable universe in apt sources05:42
Chrominokay.. lost again.05:42
sethkgary_, you probably need kernel headers as well (or possibly only headers, but you need headers)05:42
Chrominand rudiz. my browzer is once again not letting me got o pages05:42
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tristansklav: he downloaded the .deb so it might be beter to install the .deb he downloaded. We will modify his deposit after...05:42
Chrominhow do i enable universe?05:42
gary_I dont know how to do that05:42
mannymanHi everyone !05:42
Chrominokay lost again.. lol05:42
tristanChromin : OK. Do you know how to use the command "cd" to change of directory?05:42
tonyyarussosethk: uname -r returned 2.6.12-9-386.  Do you have another idea for my error?05:42
rudizinstall epiphany-browser then05:43
gigaJuhaz, ok man its installed05:43
mannymanwhere can I set Ubuntu to mount my NTFS partition as UTF-8 readable ?05:43
sethktonyyarusso, does ls /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386 show a build directory?05:43
Chrominno tristan i do not05:43
rudizsudo apt-get install epiphany-browser05:43
sethkmannyman, you can either mount is by hand with an option, or add the option to /etc/fstab05:43
syndicatehi - can anyone help me to install newsgrab? it's a gdesklet that comes with 3 .script files. should i copy / run these?05:43
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mjrmannyman, add an "iocharset=utf-8" option (separated with commas if other options are present) to the /etc/fstab entry05:43
tonyyarussosethk: No.05:43
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gary_Is this all done with synaptic?05:43
asderty@search Firefox05:43
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htetCan anyone tell me how can I make my ubuntu authenticate against NIS?05:44
tonyyarussosethk: It has other things in it; it's not empty, but no build.05:44
sethktonyyarusso, do you have a /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386 directory?05:44
tonyyarussosethk: Yes.05:44
rudizChromin, try epiphany05:45
Jowigary_: yes. start synaptic and click search. type in "kernel-source" and press ok. choose which source you want and install it.05:45
sethktonyyarusso, ok, you were typing when I was asking  :)05:45
Jowi!kernelsource05:45
ubotuI heard kernelsource is apt-get install linux-source-<your kernel version>05:45
mannymanmjr, there are "sets" - it seems in - the fstab file separated by tabs. In which one do I put the command ?05:45
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Jowi!kernel05:45
sethktonyyarusso, try reinstalling the kernel image05:45
gigaJuhaz, im getting this05:45
gigaJuhaz, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/45415405:45
tristanChromin : OK. This is quite simple. cd stands for change directory. You have t type cd name_of_the_directory05:45
tonyyarussosethk: I can just do that as sudo apt-get install linux-image, right?05:45
gary_Jowi it says it is already installed. Do I just do it again? Sorry for being so ignorant05:45
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Jowigary_: what is already installed? be precise05:46
tonyyarussosethk: Plus architecture.05:46
Chrominokay what directory do i put in it?05:46
tonyyarussosethk: And version.05:46
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tristanChromin : try what rudiz says05:46
Juhazgiga, doesn't really say anything about WHY make failed...05:46
sethktonyyarusso, I don't remember the exact apt-get syntax, I'm lazy and use synaptic.  but that sounds good05:46
sklavis nptl implemented in ubuntu ?05:46
tristanIn terminal type : sudo apt-get install epiphany-browser05:46
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gigaJuhaz, is there a way for me to get it working with WPA?05:46
tonyyarussosethk: Will I then need to reboot before it takes effect?05:46
gary_It says ,in the column installed, that it is installed. It says the installed version is 2.6..........05:46
sethkgiga, might be a permissions think.  did you try it with sudo05:46
spiderbatdadsome please help05:47
Jowigary_: have a look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelHowto?highlight=%28kernel%2905:47
sethktonyyarusso, not in this case because you are only looking for build files05:47
flibbleCan anyone help me - I've been playing with ubuntu live on my work laptop and its been great, would like to install on personal laptop but it does not have a cd drive - its running an old debian which i installed with a boot from dos command line followed by network install - can i do anything similar? Any chance of exporting install cd over nfs from another box?05:47
mannymanHow can I make NTFS partitions mountable (or readable actually) by normal user accounts ?05:47
gigaJuhaz, yes05:47
Chrominno such directory05:47
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cozhello all again05:47
sethktonyyarusso, and you are already running that kernel, right?05:47
afd_hi! I'm using dapler and I can't access the gnome menus. They open, and then dissapear. Anyone gets this as well?05:47
Jowigary_: have a look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelHowto05:47
coz OK guys I am getting bored give me a few off the wall aps that work in ubuntu to play with05:47
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orkinUbuntu will not detect my Conexant E93908 modem05:48
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Jowicoz: inkscape05:48
tonyyarussosethk: Yes.05:48
cozgot it05:48
gary_Ok, thanks. I'll try that. Thanks for your help!!05:48
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mcphailcoz: Blender05:48
tristanChromin :  were you able to install epiphany?05:48
cozGot that too05:48
sethktonyyarusso, then reboot shouldn't be necessary.  In any event, let's see if it works.  Although I have build, and that is all I did, so it should work05:48
Jowicoz: e1705:48
spiderbatdadhelp please05:48
coze17 ooo what's that???05:48
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cozspiderbatdad what;s the problem05:49
spiderbatdadwant to install tar.bz205:49
Chrominno hold on. let me try05:49
spiderbatdadhave it in folder extracted05:49
mannymanHow can I make NTFS partitions mountable (or readable actually) by normal user accounts ?05:49
Jowicoz: the new enlightenment: www.get-e.org05:49
mjrmannyman, add "user" to the mount options I mentioned05:49
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coz] ok guys spiderbat dad needs help here give him a hand at installinga tar.bz205:49
trappistmannyman: mount with umask=0 and/or uid=100005:49
henkI want to burn some mp3's to cd what is the easiest way to do that with ubuntu05:49
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cozenlightenment I will try05:50
mannymanmjr, there are "sets" - it seems in - the fstab file separated by tabs. In which one do I put the command ?05:50
mjrmannyman, that for user-mountable, user-readable would be umask=0 as that guy said05:50
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Jowicoz: tar xzvf name.tar.bz205:50
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Chrominokay.. where do i get epiphany?05:50
mjrmannyman, the fourth column is for options05:50
trappistJowi: the 'user' option lets mortal users *mount* the filesystem, not access it05:50
spiderbatdadtried05:50
tonyyarussosethk: On a side note while I do that, what is the difference between 386, 586, and 686 as architectures?  It has seemed somewhat ambiguous in some things I've run into, and I'm honestly not entirely sure of what mine is.05:50
tristanChromin : type in terminal "sudo apt-get install epiphany" without quotes05:50
Jowitrappist: huh?05:50
spiderbatdadhas the folder open and tar extracted05:50
cozok that didn't work for spiderbatdad05:50
rudizepiphany-browser, Chromin05:51
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cozwhat is the file you are trying to install?05:51
spiderbatdad./configure not recognized05:51
spiderbatdadgyach05:51
cozwhere did you get it?05:51
tonyyarussosethk: No build directory after an apt reinstall.05:51
spiderbatdadwebcam for yahoo05:51
mannymantrappist, mjr, thanks guys05:51
Jowiwhat is gyack that everyone is trying to install lately? what is that?05:51
rudizsudo apt-get install epipany-browser05:51
Chrominwhere do i dl epiphany?05:51
rudizepiphany*05:52
spiderbatdadbuild essential cvs and subversion all installed05:52
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tristanChromin : type in terminal "sudo apt-get install epiphany" without quotes05:52
spiderbatdadok05:52
tristanChromin : it will download it and install it automatically05:52
Chrominsays cant find pachage05:52
mannymanHow do I get Ubuntu to use "snapshot" (development) repositories as sources for updates/upgrades ?05:52
Jowitristan: epiphany is a game. epiphany-browser should be the correct one05:52
Chrominno dling now05:52
tristanJowi : OK05:52
cozspiderbatdad http://tl.linux.org.ph/~xenos/debian/gyach-enhanced/05:52
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Chrominnvm*05:52
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spiderbatdadbuilding dependacy tree done!05:53
CKDhallo05:53
tristanChromin : type in terminal "sudo apt-get install epiphany-browser" without quotes05:53
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cozit is a deb file easy to install05:53
CKDspricht hier jemand deutsch ?05:53
rudizChromin epiphany-browser not epiphany05:53
cozdownload the .deb file05:53
Chrominthank you. its dl and installing now05:53
spiderbatdad0 upgrade, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded05:53
Chrominokay it dled and installed it05:53
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cozspiderbatdad there is a.deb file for that app05:54
Chrominnow what?05:54
spiderbatdadwhat does that mean05:54
tristanNow you should be able to run it with "epiphany-browser" in terminal05:54
mannymanHow do I get Ubuntu to use "snapshot" (development) repositories as sources for updates/upgrades (as listed in http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu) ?05:54
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rudizgo to the wikipage and look for "Find Page"05:54
jbroomespiderbatdad: you're completly uptodate05:54
cozyou can install the deb file without all the make05:54
spiderbatdadthank you very much I'll try to use it05:55
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rudizChromin and give: opera browser05:55
cozi assume you know how to install the .deb files??05:55
spiderbatdadno05:55
spiderbatdadi know nothing05:55
cozOK put it in the home directory05:55
sklavdpkg -i package-name.deb05:55
spiderbatdadhow to put it in home dir?05:55
ULffuntuhello, is anybody here pretty knowlegable about iptables & chains?05:55
orkinUbuntu will not detect my Conexant E93908 modem05:55
cozthen in the termial sudo dpkg -i first part of the file and hit tab to complete the name05:55
Chousukespiderbatdad: just download it and save it to your homedir05:56
rudizhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser05:56
tristanChromin : do you have the internet working now without freezing...?05:56
cozin other words put in gyach then hit tab it will complete the package name05:56
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cozthen hit enter05:56
cozso it would look like this05:56
spiderbatdadfrom Home dir?05:56
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sklavwhat is gyach?05:56
Chrominlet me try. give me a few mins05:56
cozdpkg -i gyach05:56
gigacan anyone help me with ipw2200?05:56
spiderbatdadwebcam for yahoo05:56
cozthen hit tab and enter05:56
spiderbatdadok but to move it to Home...what?05:57
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mannymanHow do I get Ubuntu to use "snapshot" (development) repositories as sources for updates/upgrades (as listed in http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu) ?05:57
cozput the word guach in browser it will give definition05:57
spiderbatdadchmod Home?05:57
gigacan anyone help me with ipw2200?05:57
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cozjust cut and paste in to home directory05:57
Jowibbl05:57
spiderbatdadok05:57
cozthe open terminal05:58
cozthen05:58
cozmake sure you have the .deb file in hime directory05:58
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cozhome05:58
orkinDoes anyone know how to get ubuntu to detect my Conexant E93908 modem05:59
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mannymanmjr, How do I get Ubuntu to use "snapshot" (development) repositories as sources for updates/upgrades (as listed in http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu) ?05:59
spiderbatdadcd /home?05:59
cozKsnapshot?05:59
spiderbatdadcd /home05:59
spiderbatdadopps05:59
cozno you don't have to cd home05:59
rudizmannyman, change the version name in breezy in the repos05:59
mannymanrudiz, to what05:59
Juhazgiga, there's a bit more recent wpa info in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90450, however, there's no way to know in what condition your ipw2200 drivers are and how to restore them if you've followed the other one half way trough...06:00
mannyman?06:00
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cozin the terminal just type dpkg -i gyach then hit the tab button and then the enter button06:00
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rudizwhat v are u running now?06:00
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spiderbatdaddpkg -1 gyach06:00
Latinahry06:00
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cozno i06:00
LatinaHEy06:00
coznot l06:00
PerryJrhey06:00
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Latinawasup?06:00
mannymanrudiz, breeazy06:00
rudizmannyman. which version are u running now?06:00
sklavspiderbatdad, dpkg -i  like in irvine06:00
PerryJrnttn much.. just doing that stupid journal entry..06:00
mannymanrudiz, breeazy06:00
Latinalol06:00
PerryJrtell ppl around you to get on this chat06:01
cozmake sure it is dpkg -i not -l06:01
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spiderbatdadsudo right?06:01
Bushitoi was updating ubuntu and got multiple errors with synaptic how can i see what errors i got??06:01
Chrominokay it seems to work. i went to about 10 pages and it did not freeze06:01
cozyes unless you go in as root06:01
T-One|afkquestion: does grub treat the drive its installed on as HD0?06:01
rudizgo to the sources.list and in every line change breezy in dapper06:01
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Latinathey wont want to the to good06:01
cozhere's what it should look like before yo it enter06:01
PerryJrlol06:01
PerryJrgoody goodies06:01
Latinaplus ther is noone here around to tell06:01
dave_spiderbatdad: dpkg -i like install06:01
Latinathey all losers06:01
spiderbatdaderror in processing06:01
mannymanrudiz, where is sources;.list located ?06:02
cozdpkg -i gyach-cnhanced_1.0.7-1_i386.deb06:02
spiderbatdadcanot accesss archive06:02
cozsorry enhanced06:02
roycei am able to mount windows shares, but I am unable to access them through the filesystem, like through programs, any ideas?06:02
rudizsudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list06:02
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rudizin terminal type that ,mannyman06:02
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tonyyarussoStill having trouble with make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop. error after kernel reinstall.06:02
cozlook again06:02
mannymanrudiz, thanks06:02
Dr_Willisroyce,  they are getting mounted as owned by root. type "!ntfs" and read the bots link06:02
mannymanany good sources you recommend ?06:02
rudizmannyman and delete the cdrom line06:02
spiderbatdadwhat folder should I be in now?06:02
coz sudo dpkg -i gyach-enhanced_1.0.7-2_i386.deb06:02
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spiderbatdadok06:03
royce!ntfs06:03
uboturumour has it, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions06:03
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cozno folder in terminal06:03
alexiscyva?06:03
mannymanrudiz, ok, any good sources you recommend ?06:03
Latinaya06:03
alexiscoh ok good06:03
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Latinalol06:03
cozdid you donwload the .deb file from the source I gave you?06:03
rudizwait06:03
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michellelsup06:03
PerryJrwassup alexis06:03
spiderbatdadme?06:03
Latinantmu ?06:03
cozYess06:03
worklezq06:04
Latinawasup alexis?06:04
spiderbatdadno what source?06:04
cozapiderbatdad did you download the .deb file06:04
michellelhuh06:04
alexiscnothingmuch this stupi hing06:04
Latinathis is so confusin lol06:04
michellellol06:04
PerryJrhaha06:04
orkinCan anyone here help me getting ubuntu to detect my modem?06:04
PerryJrwhat number are you guys on?06:04
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PerryJron the journal thingie06:04
tylerphi06:04
alexisc2 haha06:04
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Xtreme984what's a GDM Theme?06:04
tristanChromin : do you have the internet working now without freezing...?06:04
Latinahey06:04
cozhere is the url again    http://tl.linux.org.ph/~xenos/debian/gyach-enhanced/06:04
PerryJrwhat number are you guys on?06:05
LatinaPerry wut number you on ?06:05
cozdownload the .deb file06:05
Latinalol06:05
tylerpokay06:05
michellelim on like 406:05
alexiscwat you on yva?06:05
PerryJri'm on number 4.. i dont know what to put06:05
PerryJrTELL ME06:05
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Latinahahaha iam on like  lol06:05
alexiscgodi dunno not there yet06:05
Latina!06:05
ubotuLatina: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?06:05
tristanXtreme984 : the desktop theme lile window borders, icons, fonts used in menus...06:05
Latina106:05
michellelstuck on #406:05
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tylerpwat the hell06:05
michellelughhh06:05
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Xtreme984tristan, thanks, just found some kool ones06:05
alexiscihate sittingnearthefront06:05
michellelteehee06:05
Xtreme984tristan, how do I install those then?06:05
spiderbatdadok be back...thanks coz06:05
tristanXtreme984 : go to www.gnome-look.org for a lot06:05
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ledhHey ppl!! How are ya?? --->Can anyone help me on how to update Open Office?06:05
alexiscill brb needa get somework done06:06
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rudizmannyman, only use the archive ones...no backports06:06
Xtreme984tristan, I know, that's where I found cool ones... but I need install instructs06:06
cozOk guys start naming off the wall apps that work in ubuntu I am BORED!06:06
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Latinawats up ?06:06
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michellelboredom06:06
tylerpwat the hell06:06
rudizthe official ubuntu ones only,mannyman06:06
tylerpokay06:06
mannymanrudiz, thanks06:06
tristanXtreme984 : download the archive, open the theme manager (System, Preferences, Theme) and drag and drop the archive in the window and that's all06:06
rudiz:)06:06
Xtreme984ah ok06:06
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LatinaPERYY HELP ME!!!!!!!!!06:07
=== Xtreme984 is linux noobie
Dr_WillisConstructo :P06:07
testmachinenothing wrong with linux noobies06:07
testmachineand whats a noob06:07
testmachinei dont believe in the word noob06:07
testmachine:)06:07
Dr_Willisand xspringgies :P -- not sure if they are in the repos however.06:07
cozis anyone here an expert?????06:07
royceDr_Willis: "No usable windows/mac partitions found"06:07
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testmachine:P06:07
michellelwut number u on?06:07
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juliadalexic??06:08
tristanAnyone; is there a program that is nice to edit gdm themes without going into the files?06:08
rudizmannyman , sudo update06:08
juliadalexis06:08
cozI like doof better than noob because i am one06:08
tristanlike changing fonts colors and so on....06:08
testmachinetristan: gdmsetup?06:08
tylerpmitchel u online06:08
rudizmanny, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade06:08
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alexischaha backk06:08
mannymanrudiz, you mean apt-get update ?06:08
juliadsme here06:08
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rudizafter you made the changes06:08
mitchellmhello06:08
LatinaPERRY hurri up06:08
cozhello michellm06:09
LatinaPERYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!06:09
rudiz"sudo apt-get update"06:09
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michellelwuts perry doin?06:09
tristantestmachine : well no because it doesnot allow you to modify the current theme you are using06:09
mitchellmshut up perry06:09
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tylerpyup06:09
alexiscomg this is so stupid06:09
rudizafter that sudo apt-get dist-upgrade06:09
testmachinetristan: then you have to go into the config files06:09
juliadwho is on??06:09
tylerpur online nowmitch06:09
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testmachinetristan: but config files arent really difficult06:09
LatinaAWWW PERYY06:09
juliadi no06:09
mitchellmno06:09
testmachinetristan: when you read you will get it06:09
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mitchellmno06:09
orkinc'mon guys, I know you know how, how do I get ubuntu to detect my modem06:09
pontis there a 64bit smp kernel image i can get for ubuntu06:09
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testmachineorkin: what kind of modem?06:09
tristantestmachine : yes I know but you have to find the html colors for every colors you want to be displayed...06:10
williamHow do I alter how Linux copies?06:10
mitchellmsuck my dik06:10
michellelhaha06:10
cozorkin i can't helo you with this one but someone here can comon guys give him a hand06:10
tylerplol06:10
williamI don't like how it copies when you high-lite06:10
Latinano thx06:10
testmachinetristan: there are enough sites with "html colors"06:10
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cozmore apps more apps06:10
juliadalexic06:10
juliadyva06:10
mitchellmhello im back06:10
Latinayes06:10
mcphailcoz: povray06:10
michellelwow06:10
tylerplo06:10
Latinathis is YVAMARA06:10
coztried it06:11
tylerplol06:11
ledhI've tried sudo apt-get update/upgrade/dist-upgrade... nothing works... I want to upgrade to the new OpenOffice2!!! Help!! >.<06:11
tylerpquit quiting it06:11
mitchellmlol06:11
mitchellmlo06:11
g47oara comprimir uso el gestor de archivadore?06:11
Latinamichelle wuts the answer for number thre?????06:11
tylerpso many people here06:11
g47opara comprimir uso el gestor de archivadores?06:11
spiderbatdadcoz!06:11
tristanIs the splach screen is the screen that is displayed when booting?06:11
cozyeah spiderbatdad06:11
LatinaALEXIS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>06:11
testmachineorkin: ?06:11
alexiscYvaaaa!06:11
spiderbatdadgot the deb package now I've got two packages06:11
rudizledh: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org206:11
testmachineorkin: what kind of modem do you have?06:11
Latinawuts the answer for number three?06:11
sethkorkin, try modprobe06:11
orkinConexant E93908 modem06:11
spiderbatdadhaha06:12
cozwell you just need the .deb package06:12
michellelmore like wuts the answer for number 406:12
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orkininternal of course06:12
Latinano number three06:12
spiderbatdadit on desktop06:12
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PerryJrdammit.. cause of you yva i'm on number 2 now when i was on 406:12
orkinmodprobe?06:12
cozcopy it into the home06:12
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spiderbatdad10/406:12
ledhand how can i uninstall the old one?06:12
testmachineorkin: is it usb?06:12
cozspiderbatdad then open terminal06:12
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LatinaIAM SORRI06:12
Latina:(06:12
PerryJrGUYS WHAT DID YOU PUT ON NUMBER 3? i'm too lazy to do it myslef cause of yva..06:13
rudizledh, overwirtingg it06:13
cozspiderbatdad do you have root password/06:13
LatinaIAM SORRI :( L(06:13
Latina:(06:13
PerryJrlol06:13
Latina:(06:13
PerryJrit's ok06:13
ledhI dunno how! I'm a newby here... sorry! :'(06:13
CarinArrwhat's with the caps06:13
spiderbatdadyes06:13
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Latinai feel so bad now06:13
orkinno, its old fashioned06:13
Latina:(06:13
stephanieabea?06:13
cozgood then do su root and putin your password06:13
Latinaiam so sorri pery06:13
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testmachineorkin: http://linuxant.com/drivers06:13
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mitchellmshut up PERRY06:13
PerryJrsorry for the caps06:13
tannerhey06:13
stephanieahey06:13
LatinaSORRY PERRY06:13
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Latinahey tanner06:13
PerryJrDONT TELL ME TO SHUTUP MITCHELL06:13
kenkku^hello, I got a motherboard with nforce2 chipset, tried to install the drivers by nvidia and they didn't install (something about kernel source or modules? I can get the accurate error message later) and I need to reinstall the default drivers.. I got breezy06:13
tylerp_i'am back06:13
tannerthe teache5r is right behind me06:13
tannerlol06:13
tylerp_lol06:13
Latinahahahahah06:13
rudizjust do what i told u ,ledh06:13
michellelhaha06:13
Latinalol06:13
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ledhokis! n_n06:14
tomdubyawow busy06:14
PerryJrlmao06:14
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mitchellmno she isnt06:14
LatinaSORRY PERRU06:14
tylerp_everyone is like online06:14
Pabloo.O06:14
PerryJrhey BEA06:14
LatinaPERRY06:14
stephanieaBEAAA06:14
tannerhiiiiiiiii bea06:14
PerryJrI SED IT"S OK!!06:14
michellelperru?06:14
rudizedh u donot have to uninstall it06:14
stephanieabea06:14
beatrizbomg heyy06:14
LatinaPERRY iam SO SORRI06:14
stephanieabea06:14
stephanieahaha06:14
tannerlol shes right beside me06:14
tristanbye everyone06:14
CarinArrkenkku^ you need to install the kernel headers06:14
stephanieaokay hey06:14
PerryJrwhy are you guys saying peru06:14
LatinaSOORRI PERRY06:14
tylerp_bye06:14
PerryJrOK06:14
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PerryJrI KNOW06:14
PerryJrSHUTUP06:14
stephanieabeaa06:14
testmachineorkin: http://linuxant.com/drivers for when you didnt saw it06:14
stephanieatalkkk06:14
kenkku^CarinArr: how? :P06:14
testmachinebecouse all the chaos here06:14
tomdubyahave quick hopefully easy ??06:14
LatinaSRRRI PERRRI06:14
testmachineshit hey06:14
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testmachinetoo much chaos06:14
beatrizbyea..06:14
testmachineplease stay on topic people06:14
stephanieabea06:14
PerryJri'm sorry latina.. i'm sorry06:14
PerryJri'm sorry06:14
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LatinaPERU I SAD IAM  RELLI SORRI06:14
PerryJri'm sorry06:14
CarinArrkenkku^ go to synaptic, search for kernel, it should come up there06:14
beatrizbsteph.. what?06:15
PerryJri'm sorry06:15
michellelwth?06:15
LatinaSRRI06:15
testmachinethis is an support channel06:15
LatinaSORRI06:15
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stephanieawhat number are you on bea06:15
HappyFooltestmachine: no ops around, alas06:15
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LatinaPERRY IAMS SO SORRI06:15
Xtreme984>_<06:15
PerryJroh this is a support shannel?06:15
LatinaSORRI06:15
ledhhmmm... where can i find a whole list of the commands when using the console...06:15
yahello06:15
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LatinaSORRI06:15
testmachineHappyFool: thats fucked up in this kind of situations06:15
beatrizb9.06:15
roycei have some windows shares mounted, i guess as root, the wiki I was directed about automounting didn't get me anywhere, any ideas06:15
spiderbatdadauthentication failure!06:15
LatinaSORRI06:15
Xtreme984still got no partition magic06:15
tannerhey06:15
kenkku^CarinArr: but I don't have the Internet now.. the LAN card isn't working06:15
testmachineledh: moment06:15
ledhI need a guide... like... Linux for Dummies! xDDD06:15
stephanieathis is weird lol06:15
LatinaPERU IAM RELI SORRI06:15
tylerp_watthe hell06:15
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testmachineidaho45: i have an beginners course06:15
tannerlol06:15
testmachineledh: even06:15
PerryJrYEAH I KNOW!!06:15
tomdubyai am in the middle of network install it seems to be stalled at 6%  but df shows data still getting written is this normal?06:15
michellelim sooo lost06:15
beatrizblol06:15
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CarinArrack kenkku, that happened to me too.. same thing nvidia drivers messed it up06:15
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tannerhi perry06:15
LatinaSORRI PERRY06:15
cozspiderbatdad!06:15
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PerryJrhi tanner06:15
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michellelyva shut up06:15
tylerp_ok06:15
LatinaPERRI IAM SORRI06:15
beatrizbwhoa... isnt tanner hot? steph06:16
PerryJrlmao06:16
CarinArrkenkku do you still have your ubuntu cd? cause it should be on there06:16
tannerwhos latina06:16
stephanieaew mitchell die06:16
spiderbatdadauth. failure06:16
beatrizbhahahahahaha06:16
PerryJryeah shutup06:16
stephanieahaha yeah totally bea06:16
cozno way!06:16
Xtreme984testmachine: you got that beginnner's course in a document???06:16
robotgeek!ops06:16
ubotuHelp! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth06:16
stephanieahahah06:16
PerryJri'll just do it at home dont worry about it06:16
spiderbatdadsi06:16
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tomdubyasorry if this is the wrong place or time ....06:16
tannerwhos latine06:16
tylerp_is mitchell still online06:16
cozshow me what you typed in to the terminal06:16
PerryJri like cheeeeeeeeese06:16
LatinaI SAID I WAS SORRI DOT HAVE TO BE ALL MEAN TO ME NOW06:16
rudizhttp://ubuntulinux.org06:16
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mitchellmtyler is my bitch06:16
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tylerp_iva mara06:16
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testmachineledh: http://puscii.squat.net/docs/pxii-cursus/index.html06:16
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tannerwhooos latina06:16
AmaranthHi.06:16
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tylerp_wat the fuk06:16
spiderbatdadsu root <password>06:16
tylerp_no06:16
LatinaYvamara06:16
cozright06:16
PerryJrmitchell shush06:16
tylerp_u whore06:16
testmachineledh: thats an basic linux course06:16
PerryJryouguys shush06:16
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testmachineledh: all command line :)06:16
michellelsnaaap06:16
cozthen a failure?06:16
robotgeekAmaranth: look :)06:16
Amaranthrobotgeek: Start naming names, too many for me. :)06:16
mitchellmhold my pock BITCH06:16
LatinaIAMSORRI\06:16
spiderbatdadthen password: then <password>06:16
maino82does anyone have any recommendations/preferences as to a vnc server to use?06:16
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ledhThanks! TestMachine!! You rock!06:16
PerryJrI KNOW06:16
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stephanieae wmitchelll go away06:16
PerryJrI KNOW06:16
cozthen failure06:16
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PerryJrI KNOW06:17
HappyFoolAmaranth: Latina, mitchellm, PerryJr for starters06:17
PerryJrIKNOW06:17
spiderbatdadyes06:17
testmachineledh: no problem hehe06:17
LatinaSSORRI06:17
cozok06:17
PerryJrAND I DONT FORGIVE YOU ANYMORE06:17
robotgeektylerp:06:17
coz tyep06:17
LatinaIAM SO SORRI06:17
ledhand... i have another Q...06:17
ledhn_n06:17
cozsudo passwd root06:17
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spiderbatdadI'm not a twerp06:17
cozit will ask for a root pasword06:17
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tannerim borededeed06:17
tomdubyawell hell i guess i hit it at playtime06:17
spiderbatdadj/k06:17
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stephanieatheres too many people06:17
paul__Hello... Does anyone know how to use Spamassassin (or other Filters) on IMAP accounts in Evolution?06:17
CarinArrstupid annoying children's playtime at that06:17
orkinthnx06:17
AmaranthHappyFool: Lets see if they settle a bit.06:17
mannymanrudiz, thanks06:17
kenkku^CarinArr: check msg?06:17
Latinanow iam going to bother you the entire day saying iam sorri06:17
tannerya but ur gay06:17
beatrizbwwhoa. whos on this thing?06:17
cozis there a way to private here06:17
stephanieaeveryone.06:17
stephanieahaha06:17
williamHow do I run the kill cursor in Gnome?06:17
PerryJrwould someone like to meet me in new york?06:17
neighborleetanner, that kind of talk is not allowed here06:17
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robotgeektanner: keep it on topic06:17
Amaranthcoz: /msg <nick> message06:18
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tannerya06:18
LatinaI WOULD06:18
tannerin the baq alley06:18
PerryJryeah tanner keep it on topic06:18
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williamJust ignore him.06:18
Latinalol06:18
CarinArrkenkku^ you need to use a registered nickname.. i'm not getting anything from you06:18
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LatinaPERRY IAM SO SRRI (L)06:18
PerryJrok tanner get a life.. nerds onli =D06:18
beatrizbnvm the only people i know that are on..are like perry, yva steph,and tanner all thee other names are whack06:18
LoPMXwhere can i download Enlightenment Engage from?06:18
LoPMXand how can i install it?06:18
beatrizbhahah06:18
alexiscomg this is retarded06:18
ledhhmmm... i have a USB port conection to access internet... but i can't use it... is there a way i can activate it? or something?06:18
AmaranthPerryJr, Latina, tanner: Please stop.06:18
tomdubyawell thanks anyway but i got other things to do06:18
PerryJrok sorry06:18
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tanneroooooo06:18
kenkku^CarinArr: ok then: do I just add the cd as a repository?06:18
LatinaHAHAHAHA06:18
michellellol06:18
tannershoot06:18
michellelbahaha06:18
tylerp_i'am bak06:18
AmaranthI'm starting to think they are bots.06:18
PerryJri will stop now..06:18
tylerp_perry06:18
cozspiderbatdad06:18
spiderbatdadawesome Unix password updated successfully06:18
JowiLoPMX: have a look at www.get-e.org06:18
michellelbots?06:18
robotgeekAmaranth: :)06:18
michellelwth?06:18
tylerp_watdid iva do to u06:18
LatinaMI BAD06:18
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mannymanI'm currently getting errors using cipherfunk.org in repository sources06:18
PerryJrbut i am lonli and i have no friends, i just wanna make some here06:18
neighborleeo_006:18
cozgood now type this06:18
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mahanguAmaranth, or just really dumb pre pubescants06:19
CarinArrkenkku, normally it's already added06:19
beatrizbomgad heyy alexis06:19
cozdpkg -i gyach06:19
Latinai dont have a mother06:19
testmachine:)06:19
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testmachinenice06:19
AfiefWhat is Ubuntu's advantage over other Linux distros? such as Fedora for example06:19
cozmake sur it is an i not anl06:19
tylerp_the hell06:19
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cozhit the tab key06:19
testmachineAmaranth: good job06:19
stephanieaalexis os here?06:19
kenkku^CarinArr: ok, I'll go check it, thanks06:19
tannertheres alot of pps06:19
YvonneAmaranth: they are all on the same ip just ban it :D06:19
CarinArrkenkku, sorry my fault, it's not kernel-headers, it's linux-headers06:19
gorakHi folks, could someone help me with a wee problem? I've upgraded to Breezy on my iBook G4 - all OK except my windows manager is now xfce and I'd like gnome back. Can't find .xinitrc which I figure should have the settings for what to launch... any ideas anyone?06:19
coz then the enter06:19
PerryJrcya all06:19
mahanguAfief, there are many06:19
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AmaranthYvonne: bots then06:19
Yvonnethere's 8 of 'em06:19
stephanieaBEA06:19
ledhI love the Linux pinguine!! *0*06:19
robotgeekAmaranth: you showed up in time06:19
stephanieawanna leave?06:19
tannersame here06:19
beatrizbsteph06:19
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stephanieayes06:19
mannymanI'm currently getting errors using cipherfunk.org in repository sources, Anyone ?06:19
spiderbatdadrequire super user privs.06:19
stephanieabea06:19
stephaniealets leave06:20
tylerp_mrs warren was coming06:20
tannerno06:20
cozsomething is up here06:20
tannershes left06:20
coztype here what you typed into the terminal06:20
stephanieabyee06:20
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beatrizbum yea.. omg lets go to a different chat room kay? come to my desk illtell you how06:20
beatrizblol06:20
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HappyFoolAfief: maybe we could discuss relative merits of distros in #ubuntu-offtopic ?06:20
stephanieaokay06:20
stephanieacyaa06:20
tannernooooo06:20
spiderbatdadsudo= no such file or dir06:20
robotgeekYvonne: just name then, Amaranth hasn't has the pleasure of their conversation06:20
beatrizbhashaha06:20
cozno no you are in the terminal right?06:20
pontanyone know how to get SMP working in ubutnu06:20
tylerp_mitchell is a bitch06:20
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AmaranthThat should settle it.06:20
Yvonneyup Amaranth06:20
spiderbatdadright home folder06:20
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williamAmaranth, thanks06:20
cozun der root06:21
CarinArrkenkku, i'm not sure whether you need to install the "kernel-source" one as well..06:21
williamNow I want help06:21
rudizmannyman i told u to se only official ubuntu repos06:21
spiderbatdadno06:21
Jowigorak: guessing you should put "exec /usr/bin/gnome-wm" in /home/username/.xsession06:21
LOQUiLLO_hello everyone06:21
cozsu root06:21
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rudizuse*06:21
spiderbatdadbut used sudo cmd06:21
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gorakcheers Jowi06:21
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spiderbatdadok06:21
AfiefHow can i get the programs contained in Edbuntu into my Ubuntu system?06:21
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mannymanrudiz, I meant now 1 (currently)06:21
coznow dpkg -i06:21
cozgyach06:21
cozhit the tab06:21
williamCan anyon hear me?06:21
cozthen enter06:21
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madboarNO06:21
rudizwhats the problem?06:21
erUSULpont, install an smp aware kernel06:21
AmaranthJust call if you need me. :)06:21
HappyFoolwilliam: yip06:21
tonyyarussoAfief: They're listed in Synaptic.06:21
mannymanrudiz, I haven't switched yet06:21
williamI felt like I was being ignored06:21
rudizok06:22
Jowigorak: might be /usr/bin/gnome-session in replacement for gnome-wm, but not sure06:22
spiderbatdaddpkg -i gyach06:22
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williamAnyways, how do I run the kill cursor in Gnome?06:22
cozhit tab06:22
mannymanrudiz, I think it's authentication ?06:22
williamI want to kill a window.06:22
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neighborleehas anyone else seeing the gnome panel bug whereby some menus are displayed with an arror at top or bottom suggesting it can't fit them all in in one display ??06:22
cozthen enter06:22
ponterUSUL, will I have to compile it06:22
pontor, is there an image ?06:22
HappyFoolwilliam: you can start a terminal and run xkill06:22
Xenguywilliam: xkill  ?06:22
cozhit tab first then enter06:22
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williamthanks06:22
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Diedurahi everyone06:22
williamNew question, how do I configure 4.1 stereo?06:22
HappyFoolwilliam: or you can right-click the panel (bar at the top), choose add to panel and look for the 'Force quit' applet06:22
rudizi cant help u with tjis one, mannyman06:23
Dieduracan somebody help me with ndiswrapper?06:23
spiderbatdaderrors encounterd while processing06:23
spiderbatdadcannot access archive06:23
gorakThanks Jowi, I'll try both! Cheers!06:23
Jowi!tell Diedura about ndiswrapper06:23
cozOK open the home folder at under places06:23
williamI have 4.1 speakers, but the only way to support it is through a convoluted setup using Jack.06:23
erUSULpont, no there are a few in repos just search for them06:23
mannymanrudiz, for PLF I got instruction on their site for the same error but not cipherfunk.org !?06:23
spiderbatdadok06:24
HappyFoolwilliam: try running alsamixer in the terminal; otherwise i don't know06:24
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royceim using breezy, i need help mounting windows shares, so they can be accessed through programs06:24
mannymanrudiz, what is the problem ? I thought this was public source ?06:24
cozLook to see if the package is in that folder06:24
spiderbatdadgyach folder and unopened deb package in there06:24
brosioozhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/454203  i get this when i connect my webcam to my pc the module ov511 is loaded correctly, anyone could help ?06:24
cozok go to terminal again06:25
williamI don't even like running Linux on a regular basis, but I accidently deleted Windows, and I only have an upgrade CD.06:25
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spiderbatdadok06:25
Jowiwilliam: alsamixer should have options for Surround, Center and LFE if you have the correct driver for your card.06:25
williamYes, it does06:25
coztype su root06:25
cozenter password06:25
williamBut the sliders don't seem to do anything.06:25
spiderbatdadok06:25
cozdpkg -i gyach hit tab then enter06:25
HappyFoolcoz: you are aware we usually use sudo in ubuntu ?06:25
Absenthin Breezy, if I use the connect to server function to join a windows share on a domain, where does that get mounted to?  (looking for a path)06:25
cozI don't use sudo06:26
HappyFoolcoz: ubuntu does ;)06:26
AbsenthI see the link on the desktop, but I can't determine what the path to that is.06:26
jbroomeAbsenth: /media i believe06:26
cozI sdon't06:26
spiderbatdadno good06:26
MasterTsunamiwhy not?06:26
cozsomething is up with the package then06:26
HappyFool*rolls eyes*06:26
MasterTsunamiout of curiousity06:26
HappyFoolsu won't work unless root has been enabled06:26
cozif you type the entire name it might hellp06:26
sethkAbsenth, right click it and choose properties, see where it is06:26
coz dpkg -i gyach...................degb06:26
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cozdeb06:26
spiderbatdadcannot access archive (--install): no such file or dir errors were encoutered06:27
Absenthsethk "on the desktop"06:27
mannymanAnyone know how I can get authorized for Cipherfunk multimedia packages (cipherfunk.org) ?06:27
Jowiwilliam: only got stereo speaker setup here so i can not test its functionality06:27
cozthen the package is corrupt try to download it gain06:27
Absenthsethk not exactly the kind of path I'm looking for :)06:27
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cozdelete the ones you have i home folder06:27
spiderbatdadwhat about this deb package06:27
hawking_awaywhen I do apt-get update I get this error " GPG error: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas Release: "  Is this repo down or can i fix this somehow?06:27
williamJowi, ok, I guess I just enable the 3d function on the speaker set.06:28
cozdelete all the packages for gyach and download again06:28
cozdo you need the url?06:28
spiderbatdadok sure06:28
spiderbatdadurl?06:28
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Xenguy!gpgerr06:28
ubotusomebody said gpgerr was a GPG-related error that sometimes occur when accessing the Ubuntu archives; it can usually be solved by typing "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*Release*" (without the quotes!) in a terminal06:28
sethkAbsenth, I thought you wanted to know what directory it is in06:28
cozhttp://tl.linux.org.ph/~xenos/debian/gyach-enhanced/06:28
cozdownload the .deb file06:28
cozlet me do this to see if it works06:28
spiderbatdadthanks Coz! super- hero06:28
Xenguyhawking_away: may apply to your situation (not sure tho)06:28
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sethkAbsenth, or where it is mounted06:29
Jowiwilliam: maybe you should also try to play a dvd in totem and choose 4.1 in the audio properties06:29
cozHelo on let me install this06:29
mannymanrudiz, why won't you help me ?!06:29
Absenthseth_k, what I'm shooting for is to mount the windows share on our development web server, so I can use gftp to send the files to our production web server.  unfortunatly I can't figure out where the share got mounted to point the "local" side of gftp at.06:29
spiderbatdadok06:29
HappyFoolXenguy: could also be hawking_away hasn't added Seveas' repo key; there's info on that at http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/06:29
williamJowi, I only care about my Ogg collection.06:29
Absenthsethk, sorry, that was for you...  not seth_k06:29
mannymanRudiz, am I doing something wrong ?06:29
williamThat may be moot though since they're in Stereo.06:29
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cozspiderbatda it is isntalling06:29
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XenguyHappyFool: ahh, makes sense06:30
cozso download that .deb file from the url I gave you06:30
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Jowiprobably moot william, probably moot06:30
williamJowi, I wish that they would port Foobar 2000 to Linux though.06:30
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mannymanrudiz, am I doing something wrong ?06:30
HappyFoolAbsenth: if it is mounted somewhere, you should be able to find out where using the command 'mount' (maybe that's already been mentioned)06:30
Jowiwilliam: funny, never liked that app much myself :)06:30
rudizmannyman i donot have the expertise to help you with the new problem06:31
mannymanrudiz, sorry06:31
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mannymanAnyone know how I can get authorized for Cipherfunk multimedia packages (cipherfunk.org) ?06:31
rudizsorry06:31
williamI use it for the plug-ins for the most part, they seem to have mroe power then WinAmp's apps, plus it's less clunky.06:31
HappyFoolAbsenth: i have a feeling nautilus may do some sort of fake mounting (unless it's running as root?)06:31
AbsenthHappyFool, I suspect you're right....  which doesn't make my life any easier.06:31
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rudizmannyman but i would not advise u to do a dist-upgrade..06:31
spiderbatdadgot it Coz06:31
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Jowiwilliam: yeah, never liked winamp much either actually.. haha06:32
AbsenthHappyFool, I don't suppose you can point me at a nice "how to mount a windows share on a domain from ubuntu"  :)06:32
cozOK now terminal06:32
cozsu root06:32
cozpassword06:32
mannymanrudiz, yes, I understand06:32
rudizdevel of dapper is very young06:32
spiderbatdadok06:32
HappyFoolAbsenth: if this is to be a permanent mount, the best is to add a mount entry to fstab06:32
cozdpkg -i gyach hit tab then hit enter06:32
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HappyFoolAbsenth: standby...06:32
williamSo what do YOU use jowi?:P06:32
spiderbatdadsays root@ubuntubill:/home#06:32
cozI am trying to find the app after install hold on06:32
mannymanrudiz, this is why I'm trying though other sources for breezy first06:32
rudizmanny man it will break ur system now and then06:32
Jowiwilliam: rhythmbox's got everything i need!06:32
HappyFool!tell Absenth about samba06:32
HappyFoolAbsenth: check for messages from ubotu; that second link looks useful06:33
williamMy unorganized 20 gig collection crashes rhythmbox.06:33
Jowiwilliam: ah, haha. ouch06:33
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williamOr may be it just takes forever.06:33
GingerbreadManhas anyone in here built the kernel with ieee80211 support?06:33
rudiztake a look in  http://wiki.ubuntu.org06:33
williamIs it me or does the internet work better in Linux?06:33
Jowiwilliam: yeah, it is not fast adding 2gigs of music, that's for sure.06:33
william20 gigs06:34
cozwhy are you suing this spiderbatdad06:34
spiderbatdadsuing?06:34
Jowiwilliam: only had to add 2gigs at a time luckily06:34
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mannymanrudiz, where ?06:34
cozusing this06:34
rudizwhats ur native language?06:34
spiderbatdadwant webcam on yahoo chat06:34
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williamWould rhythmbox work with my Iriver?06:35
spiderbatdadgf lives 2 hours away06:35
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cozoh ok I am still tgrying to find tha app after install give me aminute06:35
^rob^hi06:35
GingerbreadManso I'm trying to build the kernel with suspend2... and for some reason, ieee80211 doesn't want to build06:35
AbsenthHappyFool, Danke,  With any luck, it'll work.....06:35
Ngwilliam: not really, I have an iriver and I've yet to find a player that will easily sync stuff to it, so I just use rsync to copy everything across ;)06:35
GingerbreadManI get errors that say "No rule to make target"06:35
GingerbreadManany ideas?06:35
HappyFoolAbsenth: cool. let us know if you have problems06:35
^rob^is there any text tool to set which daemons to run on boot?06:35
Seveas^rob^, update-rc.d06:35
^rob^ty06:36
coznot coming up yet06:36
spiderbatdadthis isn't easy is it?06:36
cozspiderbatdad why are you not using gaim?06:36
mannymanrudiz, I can read technical English but the link gives blank ?!!!06:36
spiderbatdadwhat else id there for yahoo06:37
rudizhttp://ubuntulinux.org06:37
cozther is yahoo id in gaim06:37
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spiderbatdadyahoo is in gaim06:37
gnomefreakspiderbatdad,  most of the chat clients are multi clients06:37
cozyes06:37
^rob^Seveas: any other? - i was expecting on something like ntsysv - from other distros06:37
cozopen gaim06:37
spiderbatdadno of them support webcam06:37
spiderbatdadwith linux06:37
Seveas^rob^, ntif06:37
Seveas^rob^, ntiKf06:37
cozgaim supports webcam06:37
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gnomefreakspiderbatdad, i dont remember seeing any of them but gaim might06:38
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williamHow do I give RPM support to Ubunutu?06:38
Kyralwilliam: you don't06:38
spiderbatdadthought gaim was a combo of all chats06:38
jbroomealien, i think06:38
jbroomeor not06:38
Seveaswilliam, man alien06:38
n3trunnerthe latest KDE, that has kopete says has support already for MSN and Yahoo webcams06:38
n3trunnerwhich is 3.506:38
sethkGingerbreadMan, that means exactly what it says.  There is no rule in the makefile to build whatever target you are giving it.  What target are you using?06:38
KyralYou cannot use RPMs without modifying them06:38
cozI have installed this gyach but can't seem to find it anywhere on the system other than read me file06:38
spiderbatdadshe has mac os x thats another issue of compatibility06:39
GingerbreadMansethk: it's supposed to be built as a kernel module06:39
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MitjaCan anyone help me please? I can't unmount reiserfs partition, it says device is busy.06:39
spiderbatdadI got it from FSF originally...there were tons of files...none made sense to me06:39
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sethkGingerbreadMan, so?  What command are you running.  What target are you specifying?06:40
spiderbatdadthanks for you time Coz...nice thing your doing helping the lost like me06:40
GingerbreadManmake bzImage install modules modules_install06:40
AbsenthHappyFool, Kudos to you and whoever wrote that page....  Flawless :)06:41
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freelovei'll be formatting home....but i want to preserve my opera passwords & settings.....what do i do?????/06:41
GingerbreadManit doesn't seem to work if I try to build it into the kernel, either06:41
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williamI feel stupid asking this06:41
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williamHow do you install Debian packages off of the HDD?06:42
zpartahello, anyone know a good LVM howto on how to setup a concat software raid with it ?06:42
Kyralwilliam: sudo dpkg -i <path/to/file>06:42
n3trunnerdpkg06:42
zpartai am using ubuntu 5.1006:42
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freelovewilliam: sudo dpkg -i <packagename>06:42
williamThanks06:42
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Jowiwilliam: you mean that you want to REMOVE a package that you already installed with dpkg -i?06:42
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williamJowi, no06:43
Agrajagfreelove: copy ~/.opera somewhere06:43
gleesonddoes anybody know of a good tutorial on how to get video drivers working?06:43
Kyralgleesond: you mean like the ATI and NVidia drivers?06:43
gleesondATI06:43
Jowiwilliam: ok. looked funny when you said "off of the HDD" :)06:43
GingerbreadMangleesond: there are a lot of good HOWTOs on ubuntuforums.org06:43
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freeloveAgrajag: and then? what to do after clean install? to get back everything.........06:43
Kyral!Ati06:43
ubotumethinks ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1006:43
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sethkGingerbreadMan, you can't get a "no rule to make target" when you do make bzImage modules modules_install install06:43
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Kyralgleesond: look what Ubotu saud06:44
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geanhi all !06:44
Agrajagfreelove: put it back where you found it.06:44
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williamUgh06:44
GingerbreadMansethk: well believe it or not, I am06:44
williamSays I need to install the latest version of JRE06:44
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sethkGingerbreadMan, you gave them in the wrong order, by the way06:44
sethkGingerbreadMan, did you configure first?06:44
sethkGingerbreadMan, make xconfig or menuconfig or oldconfig?06:44
Kyralhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=468342&postcount=33 <--General Apt-Get Tutorial06:44
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GingerbreadMansethk: yes, I did configure06:45
freeloveAgrajag: i tried that with gaim......but it never happened....gaim opened like as default:(06:45
sethkGingerbreadMan, try the correct order, although it shouldn't matter06:45
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sethkGingerbreadMan, also, try one at a time so we can see which fails.  start with make bzImage06:45
kenkkuhello, back with the same problem, whoever who helped me, if you remember.. installed kernel headers (dunno if they were the right ones? it said kernel headers so I think :D) but still same..06:45
Agrajagfreelove: then you didn't put it back where you found it.06:45
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GingerbreadMansethk: the order shouldn't matter, but trying just bzImage or modules is a good idea06:45
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freeloveAgrajag: i did...str8 in my home dir06:45
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sethkGingerbreadMan, it shouldn't matter, but something is screwed up.06:46
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Absenthkenkku did you use apt, or synaptic to install your kernel headers?06:46
GingerbreadMansethk: make bzImage just screwed up06:46
oKtosiTeDoes anyone know a livecd with a built-in ftp server? It's urgent.06:46
kenkkuAbsenth: synaptic06:46
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GingerbreadManwhich is odd considering I just configured 802.11 support to be built as a module...06:47
geanhave a great problem : all my xterm-processes crash after some 20 - 40 seconds ... i can sometimes see some error message ... GLIB2.0 is inside ... before the window alert [ gnome-terminal crash ]  (or so) appers . Any1 has experienced the same problem? Can somebody please help me ?!06:47
cozstill checking spiderbatdad06:47
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^rob^hi06:47
Kyralwow, mandriva cloak06:47
Kyralnice06:47
^rob^how can i set ubuntu to not sincronize clock any more?06:47
GingerbreadManhmm, I still get the same error even with make modules06:48
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douglasWhen I plug in an external usb drive sometimes I can't mount it because it doesn't exist in /dev/sd* ?06:48
GingerbreadManalthough now dealing with ieee80211_crypt.o06:48
Kyral^rob^: I think its in Time Settings someplace06:48
^rob^on boot - i see syncronizing ntp clock ... clock.ubuntu.org?06:48
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cozcan't get the .deb package for gyach to work on ubuntu on my system06:48
coz could me my system06:48
^rob^Kyral: this system will be closed in a intranet - with no internet connection06:48
Kyral^rob^: ah06:48
^rob^after i boot - it will stay a long to sync...06:49
Kyralin that case it will just fail outright06:49
Kyralnope06:49
Kyralno internet conn it will faill off the bat06:49
kenkku^rob^: right click the clock, select adjust time & date06:49
Kyralbelieve me I knwo :P06:49
^rob^kenkku: set as server mode - no desktop there06:49
sethkGingerbreadMan, I'd try a make clean.  If that doesn't work, a make distclean.  You'll have to configure again after distclean06:49
kenkku^rob^: ah ok :P06:49
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GingerbreadMansethk: I've actually tried that multiple times already06:50
^rob^Kyral:  i'll do a test - brb06:50
kenkkuAbsenth: should I have used something else than synaptic?06:50
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KyralI'm going to class actually06:50
sethkGingerbreadMan, then reinstall the source and start over06:52
sethkGingerbreadMan, I prefer to use the source from kernel.org, it avoids these problems, but then you lose package management of the kernel06:53
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rudizmannyman??06:53
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mannymanrudiz, ?06:53
geanhave a great problem : all my xterm-processes crash after some 20 - 40 seconds ... i can sometimes see some error message ... GLIB2.0 is inside ... before the window alert [ The application gnome-terminal has quit unexpectedly ]  (or so) appears . Any1 has experienced the same problem? Can somebody please help me ?!06:53
rudizwhat was the problem?06:53
GingerbreadMansethk: yeah, I was going to try using the vanilla kernel if I couldn't get it to work with ubuntu's... package management of the kernel isn't really a big deal to me anyway06:53
GingerbreadMansethk: thanks for trying06:54
rudizmaybe i can help witj it?06:54
rudizwith*06:54
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GingerbreadManI think before I try the fresh kernel, I'll see if there is some issue with the makefile...06:54
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williamHow do I install Java?06:55
rudizmannyman, an error message?06:55
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Jowi!java06:55
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs06:55
mannymangpg, fixed here ...06:55
orkinok, this linuxant site has me download this listmodem.sh file. how do I run this file and if I know the model no. of my modem do I need to run this? why cant the website just have a dropdownbox for me to select my model and it to bring me to the things I need?06:55
rudizok06:55
rudizu find the siteof ubuntu?06:55
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viscountanyone know how to disable a firefox media plugin? I want to remove the totem mozilla plugin, so mplayer can take over, i dont want to remove all of totem though.06:55
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Jowiorkin: usually "sh listmodem.sh"06:56
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linuxboy_salut !06:56
mannymanrudiz, http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/topic-61123.html06:56
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Jowiorkin: which modem?06:56
rudizviscount, remove totem-gstreamer06:56
deFryskviscount, remove totemrelated plugins from /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins06:56
linuxboy_test.c:3: glib.h: No such file or directory06:57
linuxboy_make: *** [test.o]  Erreur 106:57
linuxboy_ ?06:57
AbsenthI'm so close to being windows free on my laptop I can taste it.06:57
orkinConexant E93908 modem06:57
kenkkuAbsenth: should I use apt instead of synaptic or something?06:57
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Absenthkenkku, sorry about that, got pulled into a super brief meeting and forgot all about that.06:58
Absenthkenkku, open a terminal, and do uname -a06:58
linuxboy_elle se trouve ou la library glib.h06:58
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Jowiorkin: this what you're looking for? http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hsf/full/downloads-ubuntu-x86.php06:58
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kenkkuAbsenth: 2.6.12-10-38606:58
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kenkkuAbsenth: I installed the headers for that version I believe06:58
Absenthkenkku,  which kernel header package did you download via synaptic?06:58
kenkkuAbsenth: let me check..06:59
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_jasonlinuxboy, libglib2.0-dev06:59
Absenthkenkku,  go into /usr/src and you'll have to unpack the kernel headers (as well as any kernel source you may have downloaded)06:59
linuxboy_jason: hey?06:59
erUSUL!fr06:59
ubotuVa a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais06:59
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_jasonlinuxboy, dans package libglib2.0-dev07:00
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BlueDevillinuxboy_: libglib2.0-dev: /usr/include/glib-2.0/glib.h07:00
viscountyay! http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/x3/large.html07:00
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linuxboyBlueDevil, _jason: I didn't ask anything!07:00
kenkkuAbsenth: I installed packages linux-headers-2.6.12-10-286 AND linux-headers-2.6.12-10.. is it bad?07:00
viscountdeFrysk: thx that worked07:00
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kenkkuAbsenth: *38607:00
linuxboyBlueDevil, _jason: oh, there was linuxboy and linuxboy_07:00
Absenthkenkku,  which package/application are you trying to install?  (and no that's not bad.)07:00
ubun-newbiehi is there any program like winamp on windows but this is ubuntu07:00
_jasonlinuxboy, oops yeah sry about that07:01
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Absenthubun-newbie, xmms :)07:01
deFryskubun-newbie, beep-media-player07:01
kenkkuAbsenth: nforce drivers for my nforce2 chipset07:01
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ubun-newbieso i do apt-get install xmms07:01
Millenniumgroupcp-i linux.pdf /home/oscar/Desktop/test Why isn't it asking me if I want to copy it or not?07:01
BlueDevillinuxboy: i answered to linuxboy_07:01
Absenthkenkku, ahh....07:01
Absenthkenkku, in /usr/src have you unpacked the ziped headers and source?07:01
geanall my x-terminals are CRASHING .... can somebody please help me ! give me a hint to reinstall and/or remove stuff...07:01
linuxboyBlueDevil: I know, mine highlighted because it matched linuxboy07:01
shivyhya07:02
rickestdownloaded 5-10, md5sum checks out but when I mount the .ISO image and md5sum it against the original ISO file, I get 11 missing or failed files.  anyone know anything about that?07:02
BlueDevilgean: what do you mean?07:02
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kenkkuAbsenth: mm nope I haven't done it manually.. if it isn't done automatically, then they're not there :)07:02
geanhave a great problem : all my xterm-processes crash after some 20 - 40 seconds ... i can sometimes see some error message ... GLIB2.0 is inside ... before the window alert [ The application gnome-terminal has quit unexpectedly ]  (or so) appears .07:02
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Absenthkenkku, you'll need to open the terminal, and cd /usr/src07:02
ubun-newbieW: Kunde inte ta status p kllkodspaketlistan http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 Filen eller katalogen finns inte)07:02
deFryskrickest, try burning the cd at a lower speed07:02
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shivyHow can I edit my files while in usermode Quanta which are in /var/www   I tried " chmod ug+rw /var/www " but that didnt do it07:03
ubun-newbiesomething is missin when i do apt-get install xmms07:03
rickestdeFrysk: I'm not burning a cd, I'm mounting the ISO itself and still get the error07:03
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geannow event the message [ gnome terminal has quit]  no longer appears..07:03
Millenniumgroupubun-newbie, yeah the rep isn't there07:03
deFrysk!tell ubun-newbie about repos07:03
Absenthkenkku, then 'sudo tar jfvz filename'   (assuming it ends in .bz2)  :)07:03
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xoredsomeone has an idea how to make psybnc working with ksirc ?07:03
kenkkuAbsenth: a-ha! ok unpacking them :)07:03
deFryskubun-newbie, read ubotus message and check if you understand the howto07:03
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shivyIm trying to edit Straight in /var/www . How could I do That if it doesnt let me write in the /var/www folder07:04
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Fujoor /quit07:04
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BlueDevilshivy: you can try adding yourself to the www-data group07:04
xoredsomeone has an idea how to make psybnc working with ksirc ?07:04
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ubun-newbieyes i had to do sudo apt-get update07:05
Falconhi, I have Kubuntu. How to disable automatic mounting of CDroms and pedrives when inserted or connected? I dont want kde to open a window with mounted directory nor to mount a device.07:05
geanBlueDevil : this happens after some 100 days of clean ubuntu working OS... can it be, that after some update the GLIB-library no longer works properly ?!07:05
Absenthkenkku, the other thing I noticed about the headers in ubuntu is that the default path /usr/src/include you'll have to change the path to /usr/src/(unzippeddirectoryhere)/include07:05
ubun-newbiexmms07:05
ubun-newbielibmikmod.so.2: kan inte ppna delad objektfil: Filen eller katalogen finns inteMessage: device: default07:05
jpetersenhi, has anybody nss-mdns with avahi running on the last dapper version?07:05
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kenkkuAbsenth: hmm tar complains about conflicting options you sure that's right? it's .tar.bz207:06
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Absenthkenkku, hold on, lemme check....07:06
deFryskubun-newbie, make sure you have multiverse AND universe in the repos07:06
kenkkuAbsenth: hmm wait no, they ARE unpacked already.. did it automatically I guess07:06
Jowiubun-newbie: sudo apt-get install libmikmod207:06
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Millenniumgroupubun-newbie it helps if you translate the swedish part - english :D07:07
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BlueDevilFalcon: go to system settings->storage media and under "medium types" select "mounted removeable media" select "do nothing" and click "toggle as auto action"07:07
deFrysk!se07:07
ubotudeFrysk: What?07:07
geanone can instal [unp]  (general unp-acking tool) to get rid of special technical -xvf when unpacking...07:07
deFryskno swedish room ?07:07
_jasonAbsenth, kenkku don't use the z, z and j are different formats07:07
Millenniumgroupubun-newbie there is a swedish ubuntu channel07:07
ubun-newbiexmms07:07
ubun-newbieMessage: device: default07:07
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deFrysk!sweden07:07
ubotudeFrysk: No idea07:07
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BlueDevilgean: that is unlikely, but possible07:07
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gunduevery time when i type sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start nothing happens and the error.log and /var/log/messages files are empty. i installed it as the wiki told07:08
Millenniumgrouphold on guys07:08
Millenniumgroupgo here #ubuntu.se07:08
Millenniumgroupswedish ^07:08
Absenthkenkku, then the only other thing you might need to change during the install, use /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386/include (vs the more likely default of /usr/src/include)07:08
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WatersofhellIs there a such command that you can run from a terminal that can actually print text to the screen and not in the terminal window ?07:08
ubun-newbieso how i listen to radio07:08
ubun-newbieon xmms07:08
BlueDevilWatersofhell: man xmessage07:08
Absenth_jason, thanks, tar xfvj *.tar.bz2    (makes a note of that)07:08
geanBlueDevil : the only chance i have to get a console is to run it into emacs ... very strange situation... and there it works...07:09
WatersofhellThanks alot BlueDevil!07:09
BlueDevilWatersofhell: yw07:09
FalconBlueDevil: I don't have "Storage media" icon07:09
xoredsomeone has an idea how to make psybnc working with ksirc ?07:09
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BlueDevilFalcon: kde 3.5?07:09
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FalconI guess - the latest one from 5.1007:10
ubun-newbiehow do i play radio station on xmms07:10
deFryskubun-newbie, install xmms-mad07:10
deFryskfor mp3 support07:10
rudizmannyman: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9267207:10
JowiWatersofhell: you can also use zenity07:10
FalconBlueDevil: kdelibs                          3.4.3-0ubuntu107:10
orkinok wtf, I have to pay for linux modem drivers?07:10
sleptubun-newbie, open the url with the file+ button look at the playlist07:11
deFrysk!tell ubun-newbie about restricted formats07:11
geanubun-newbie : there is a MENU option (L- or R-mouse on xmms) :  open Location : then give the location..07:11
deFryskubun-newbie, read ubotu's message and see if you can find there what you need07:11
BlueDevilFalcon: and under hardware you don't have storage media?07:11
JowiWatersofhell: example: zenity --info --text hello!07:11
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sleptubun-newbie, or rightclick open with in your browser07:11
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FalconBlueDevil: correct - no such icon07:11
deluxe___can anybody tell me what packages i would need to have to get my linksys wusb11 v2.6 wireless adapter working under ubuntu and if i have to use ndiswrapper how would i go about getting ndiswrapper to work with it07:12
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BlueDevilFalcon: and what popup do you get when inserting media?07:12
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FRZhi07:12
erUSUL!wifi07:12
ubotuI guess wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto07:12
ubun-newbiei dont have mp3's i want to listen radio07:12
FRZive got a question, how do i enable my pcmcia wlan card?07:12
ErronI read a page that says I can use SOCK_DGRAM to do icmp instead of SOCK_RAW if i'm using a user with non root priv is that correct?07:12
BlueDevilFalcon: by reading the kde changelogs i saw that was introduced in 3.507:13
Jowi!ndiswrapper07:13
uboturumour has it, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper07:13
Ngubun-newbie: do you have a tv/radio card?07:13
deFryskubun-newbie, read ubotus message first it tell you how to install the needed codecs and stuff07:13
ubun-newbieit works fine on winamp i just choose radio station07:13
erUSUL!tell ubun-newbie about mp307:13
FalconBlueDevil: window (like konqueror one) with media:/hdc07:13
ubun-newbiei dont want mp3 i want to get list of radio stations07:13
Agrajagubun-newbie: most online radiostations use mp307:13
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deFryskubun-newbie, please read the message07:13
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Absenthubun-newbie, if the "radio station" is online, you still need the mp3 component as that's how 90% of them are sent to your computer.07:14
Nghe might have an actual radio card07:14
deFryskotherwise youl never hear any radio07:14
Ngin which case he wants xmms-fmradio from universe I guess07:14
koyodahello all, I'm using ubuntu 5.10 (breezy) and I wanted to ask what repositories should I add to /etc/apt/sources.list ?07:14
AgrajagNg: I don't think Winamp does that07:14
Ng(or rather, a tv card)07:14
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NgAgrajag: I wouldn't know :)07:14
deFryskanyway , I'm off07:14
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misfit_toyubun-newbie, try streamtuner07:15
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ubun-newbiesudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg07:15
ubun-newbiei did now this07:15
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ErderIs anyone using upnpd daemon in his linux based router?07:16
DjaFollahhi07:16
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rudizkoyoda,  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9267207:17
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levanderApparently they've changed the command line options for mplayer in the version that's in Breezy.  Has anybody figured out the new options?  Specifically I'm having to looking around for the replacements for -aofile and -wavheader07:18
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binarydigittry the man file?07:19
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levanderbinarydigit: no kidding, i'm just wondering if anybody else has dug through and figured this stuff out yet07:19
koyodarudiz, thanx :)07:19
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Jxpxif i am a the founder of a channel , how can i put that the access list only can view the founder?07:19
ubun-newbiehttp://www.defjay.com/  how do i listen to this station07:19
BlueDevilFalcon: go to configure konqueror and under file associations look and *mounted actions07:19
ubun-newbieon xmms i play url but nothing happens07:19
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illustretrying to find mplayer for ubuntu?07:20
binarydigitillustre: try the internet?07:20
_jasonillustre, you are trying to install mplayer?07:20
ubun-newbiehow do i see the radio stations on XMMS07:21
illustreyes but would like to find it via synaptic07:21
_jasonubotu, tell illustre about mplayer07:21
illustrebinarydigit, nice job07:21
binarydigitthanks im doing my best07:21
Stormx2Uhg...07:21
illustrebinarydigit, well u make a A#$#$#$ if tiysekf07:21
Stormx2ubun-newbie: You don't. Use BMPx07:21
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Xcercahey07:22
binarydigiti figured if you had the ability to go on irc, you had the ability to use google or goto the ubuntu website07:22
ubun-newbiei want to listen radio station with xmms07:22
Agrajag10:21 < binarydigit> thanks im doing my best07:22
Agrajag10:21 -!- NightSkies [i=jansky90@cable-roi-fffcdd00-129.dhcp.inet.fi]  has quit [Connection timed out] 07:22
ubun-newbiewhere are the radio channels like in winamp radio stations07:22
Agrajag10:21 < Stormx2> Uhg...07:22
bluefoxicyhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportRecommendedHardware  How does THAT strike you?07:22
Stormx2Someone give me a hand, why am I getting permission denied on some files which belong to me and are perfectly well permissioned...07:22
Agrajagagfh07:22
Agrajagoops07:22
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Stormx2ubun-newbie: You can07:22
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illustre_jason, thanks07:22
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Stormx2ubun-newbie: You to the shoutcast homepage07:22
FalconBlueDevil: thanks, there is something there... I'll try07:22
_jasonillustre, np07:22
Stormx2ubun-newbie: find a station you like, and open it in XMMS07:22
binarydigitStormx2: whats the permission set at07:23
Stormx2ubun-newbie: Although you should use BMP not XMMS >.>07:23
Xcercahow can you remove old version of ubuntu from grub loader,   so that it does have so much clutter on startup ?07:23
spine_you can look for the URl to hte stream and open location UBUN-NEWBIE07:23
_jasonStormx2, wow that's weird07:23
Xcercadoesn't07:23
Stormx2-rw-r--r--07:23
Stormx2Seems find doesn't it?07:23
Stormx2or, am I wrong?07:23
ubun-newbie sudo apt-get install bmp07:23
ubun-newbieLser paketlistor... Frdig07:23
ubun-newbieBygger beroendetrd... Frdig07:23
ubun-newbieE: Kunde inte hitta paketet bmp07:23
_jasonStormx2, you are just trying to read the file?07:23
ubun-newbieno packet  bmp07:23
mcphailIs it possible to force a library which compiles as a static .a to compile to a dynamic .so?07:23
Stormx2Don't paste.07:23
AngryParsleyso, I got x86-64 ubuntu working, except for DRI07:23
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ubun-newbieare you joking07:23
Stormx2ubun-newbie: beep-media-player07:23
spine_me?07:23
spine_im not the funny type, no07:24
binarydigitbmpx is a lil better for radio stuff07:24
Stormx2Yep07:24
AngryParsleydmesg shows two lines which error out, and are probably the source of my troubles07:24
Stormx2BMPx has listing built-in07:24
binarydigitplus it has a media library07:24
binarydigityea07:24
kenkkuwhat are precompiled kernel interfaces?07:24
Stormx2I don't like it as much as standard BMP though.07:24
BlueDevilis there a package for bmpx?07:24
AngryParsley[   63.477172]  [drm:radeon_cp_init]  *ERROR* radeon_cp_init called without lock held07:24
AngryParsley[   63.477411]  [drm:drm_unlock]  *ERROR* Process 8343 using kernel context 007:24
Stormx2BlueDevil: Look in synaptic.07:24
binarydigityea they have a repository on the bmpx homepage07:24
AngryParsleyI have no clue what the problem is :(07:24
_jasonStormx2, I'd give it executable permissions just to see if it will work.  What are you reading it with?07:24
binarydigityou need to add to your sources.list07:24
WatersofhellI need a big book of Linux commands07:25
BlueDevilStormx2: i did, wouldn't have asked otherwise07:25
Watersofhellyep yep07:25
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Stormx2BlueDevil: Read what binarydigit said07:25
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_jasonWatersofhell, like vasic terminal commands?07:25
AngryParsleyI've googled around also, but most of the advice says to add the agpgart module07:25
_jasonWatersofhell, basic*07:25
AngryParsleywhich makes no sense, because I have a PCI card07:25
ubun-newbiei installed bmp07:25
WatersofhellNo like advance ones07:25
ubun-newbienow where are the radio stations07:25
AngryParsleycan anyone help me with DRI?07:26
binarydigitubun-newbie: use bmpx07:26
binarydigitit has a radio listing built in07:26
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WatersofhellI have a book of basic commands07:26
Watersofhelland a site with basic commands07:26
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ubun-newbiesudo apt-get install bmpx07:26
ubun-newbieno suck packet07:26
Jxpxif i am a the founder of a channel , how can i put that the access list only can view the founder?07:26
ubun-newbiesuch07:26
erikBZFLAG: anyone know a workaround for this error that i experience.. i'm on ubuntu breezy but i heard its a debian problem originaly .. i cant SHOOT07:27
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Stormx2http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5518 <-- What am I missing...07:27
ubun-newbiewhat is the real name of that bmpx07:27
AngryParsleyhello? anyone?07:27
ubun-newbieapt-get install bmpx error07:27
binarydigitubun-newbie: read up and see what i said about it07:27
ubun-newbieu said bmpx07:27
binarydigitread up further07:27
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ubun-newbiethere is np package07:27
binarydigitabout where to get it07:27
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ubun-newbiewhat07:27
Stormx2ubun-newbie: You need to add a repo.07:27
spine_i never liked beep media player i guess im used to winamp07:27
diubidonehey how do i access a pendrive on Xfce?07:28
BlueDevilStormx2: sudo ls -ld soldatadmin07:28
Stormx2spine_: Beep media player is winamp 2.07:28
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ubun-newbiecan u use winamp allso on ubuntu07:28
binarydigityea theres no great media player07:28
spine_XMMS is ht e gratest07:28
spine_the*07:28
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Stormx2Why?07:28
Stormx2XMMS is BMP but in GTK107:28
Stormx2BMP is just XMMS but better.07:28
spine_because it just works and u can skin it07:28
ubun-newbiewhere is the radio station on bmp07:28
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Stormx2You can skin BMP just like XMMS >.>07:28
Stormx2XMMS + GTK2 + Added Functionality = BMP07:29
spine_i still dont like it, i guess is because i had problems with it07:29
Stormx2BlueDevil: drw-rw-rw-  2 barney barney 4096 2005-12-08 18:12 soldatadmin07:29
spine_and not XMMS07:29
Stormx2hmm07:29
skarhi, i've gentoo running, want to try out ubuntu latest, is there a way to install it on a partition from within gentoo itself, like mount the partition and install into the chroot or something similar?07:29
Stormx2fair enough07:29
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AngryParsleyseriously, glxgears gives me 200fps :(07:29
ubun-newbiewhere is the radio station on bmp07:29
TeddHey.07:29
TeddA little help?07:29
_jason!ask07:30
TeddMy sound doesn't work.07:30
TeddIt was working last night, and today I turn on the monitor and now it's out.07:30
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AbsenthStormx2, what's the package name for BMP?07:30
ubun-newbiewhere is the radio station on bmp07:30
TeddI've been messing with ALSA controls but to no avail.07:30
BlueDevilTedd: try "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp"07:30
robotgeekAbsenth: beep-media-player07:30
WatersofhellIf you go to google and type in dmp filetype:deb you will find a package there07:30
Stormx2Absenth: i beleive it is beep-media-player07:30
ubun-newbiewhere is the radio station on bmp07:31
diubidoneanyone using xfce?07:31
Watersofhellbmp*07:31
TeddBlueDevil, the device is busy it says hold on07:31
spine_xfce is whack, go gnome07:31
AbsenthStormx2, any addon packages required for mp3 playback?07:31
TeddBluedevil: Yeah. Busy.07:31
Stormx2Absenth: No, it has MP3 support natively07:31
Absenthspine_, heh, now XPDE?07:31
spine_in my opinion07:31
BlueDevilTedd: you have an app exclusively locking the device07:31
Absenthspine_, not*07:31
gunduwhat the name for the java runtime development plugin for firefox 07:31
Stormx2BlueDevil: Read up07:31
Stormx2!java07:32
diubidonei need to access pendrive on xfce anyone know how?07:32
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs07:32
TeddHow can I? All I have open is X-Chat and now the terminal.07:32
ubun-newbiewhere is the radio station on bmp07:32
ubun-newbiewhere is the radio station on bmp07:32
gundu!javadebs07:32
uboturumour has it, javadebs is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/07:32
Stormx2diubidone: It mounted?07:32
BlueDevilTedd: might be esd07:32
Teddkillall esd?07:32
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diubidoneyup07:32
ubun-newbiewhere is the radio station on bmp07:32
ubun-newbiewhere is the radio station on bmp07:32
BlueDevilStormx2: lsattr soldatadmin07:32
diubidoneStormx2: i just can't access07:32
diubidoneStormx2: im noob07:33
Xcercadoes anybody know how to remove old versions of Ubuntu off of grub loader?  after you do an update...07:33
BlueDevilTedd: try that07:33
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Xcercacan that even be done ?07:34
TeddBluedevil: I did 'killall esd' and now Rythmbox isn't playing any of my files. Brings up an exclamation point next to all of them.07:34
gleesondhow do I upgrade to breezy without reinstalling?07:34
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_jasonubotu, tell gleesond about breezy07:34
BlueDevilTedd: i thought it wasn't playing anyway07:34
WatersofhellBlueDevil: Is there a command that disables the borders of xmessage or is there a command that just prints text to the screen anywhere that you tell it to ?07:34
illustre_jason, I ADDED the repositorie but it still does now show up on thel ist07:34
TeddBluedevil: It was playing, just nothing was coming out of my speakers. Now a big exclamation point comes up next to any file I try to play.07:34
Xcercais there anything besides grub loader that you can use to boot OS's ?07:35
BlueDevilTedd: do the cat I told you to07:35
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TeddI did, after I killed ESD.07:35
_jason!info mplayer-58607:35
AgrajagXcerca: lilo07:35
ubotumplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3670 kB, Installed size: 7928 kB07:35
BlueDevilTedd: and?07:35
_jasonillustre, did you reload the database?07:35
illustreindeed07:35
TeddThe result was nothing but those exclamation points. I'll try it again.07:35
_jasonillustre, can you post your /etc/apt/sources.list on pastebin please07:36
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diubidonei need to access pendrive on xfce anyone knows how?07:36
Xcercaagrajag do you use lilo ?07:36
AgrajagXcerca: no07:36
TeddBlueDevil, it doesn't say tedd@ubuntu:~$ in front of the terminal command anymore.07:36
TeddThat was the only noticeable change.07:36
BlueDevilTedd: still no sound?07:36
TeddStill nothin'.07:36
BlueDevilTedd: sure the mixer channels aren't muted?07:37
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TeddYeah. I checked in ALSA Mixer.07:37
AngryParsleyso, does anyone have any advice on helping me get hardware acceleration working? dmesg says [drm:radeon_cp_init]  *ERROR* radeon_cp_init called without lock held07:37
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WatersofhellI think I should really try ubuntu one day....07:37
neighborleehas anyone else noticed the scroll balls in gnome menus ?07:37
AngryParsleyI have the proper modules loaded and I'm pretty sure my xorg.conf is set up properly07:37
dietzehi, anyone could help me with my printer? Should be very simple07:38
illustre_jason, http://pastebin.com/45432907:38
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TeddBluedevil: Any other ideas?07:39
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unimatrix9hi there07:39
unimatrix9i am installing ubuntu, but07:39
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codowhen i do startx i get this error no core pointer07:39
peter__bonsoir07:39
TeddBlueDevil, I07:39
codoi guess its the issue of mouse not being able to be detected07:39
_jasonillustre, what's that grawert.net warty stuff for?  Anyway, you don't have multiverse enabled.  add multiverse to line 3.07:39
AngryParsleyanyone?07:39
codocan anyone of you tell me this ?07:39
AngryParsley:(07:40
peter__problem reboot ubuntu ?07:40
Teddam gonna try restarting, and07:40
unimatrix9forgot to put in the soudncard, stupid eh?, will it auto detect it when i put it in and reboot?07:40
binarydigitubun-newbie: install bmpx07:40
shivyhow can I add permission for user on a map07:40
shivywriting permission07:40
codoOption "device"07:40
Tedd(sorry about the enters) and try taht. Be back in a few.07:40
binarydigitgoogle bmpx, get the repository on the website, add it to your source.list07:40
ubun-newbiehow07:40
binarydigitthen apt-get update07:40
codowhat should i give mouse devide as there ?07:40
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shivychmod doesnt work07:40
_jasonillustre, you may just want to recreate your sources.list, I will send you a link that makes it easy07:40
binarydigitand then install package bmpx07:40
_jasonubotu, tell illustre about easysource07:40
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peter__help when i reboot ubuntu   BUG no reboot07:41
unimatrix9putting in an soundcard ( new ) should auto detect and set it up?07:41
AngryParsleycan people at least respond to me?07:42
unimatrix9i can, put i am in for an quest of my own..07:42
orkinhow do i run a .deb file?07:42
unimatrix9:)07:42
BlueDevilAngryParsley: sorry i never had an ATI board :(07:42
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WatersofhellAngryParsly: There are alot of people in this channel you most likely were just over looked.07:43
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AngryParsleyBlueDevil: what's weird is that I got this same graphics card working in another computer07:43
WatersofhellMe I'm a newbie so I can't be much of help at all07:43
AngryParsleyI guess the x86-64 modules are different or something07:43
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scroochhi] 07:43
TeddBlueDevil: No change.07:43
BlueDevilAngryParsley: i saw some tutorials on that though, did you try that?07:43
scroochhttp://www.l1.nl/l1/nl/html/algemeen/internetradio/internetradio.pshe#07:44
unimatrix9if i put in an soundcard, ubunut sets it up without problems?07:44
BlueDevilTedd: amixer sget Master07:44
AngryParsleyBlueDevil: I've looked all over the ubuntu forums and nothing has helped07:44
Tedd?07:44
Teddk07:44
scroochHow can I get this internet radio working? http://www.l1.nl/l1/nl/html/algemeen/internetradio/internetradio.pshe#07:44
scroochit is using some ' mms ' type of thing : s07:44
BlueDevilTedd: amixer sget PCM07:44
AngryParsleyBlueDevil: I've got the right modules set to load, but one of them gives an error in dmesg07:44
scroochtried totem (xine) mplayer xmms....07:44
unimatrix9srcooch , hold on07:44
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scroochthank you unimatrix907:44
scroochmms://212.54.36.46/l1radio07:44
AngryParsleysome places say to load the agpgart module07:45
scroochthis link to be presice07:45
BlueDevilAngryParsley: there was a tutorial on sourceforge (i think)07:45
TeddBlueDevil: Did both just now.  Should I pastebin the results?07:45
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AngryParsleyof course, that module doesn't exist, and I don't have an AGP slot on this motherboard anyway07:45
neomatrixwhat is the root password for ubuntu live cd?07:45
AngryParsleyBlueDevil: on sourceforge? no07:45
AngryParsleyBlueDevil: do you have a link?07:45
BlueDevilTedd: yes07:46
BlueDevilAngryParsley: don't remember the link, I stumbled upon it by mistake07:46
kenkkudo I have to do something special to get wmv files working?07:46
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AngryParsleyheh07:46
Teddhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/551907:46
emihello guys. I'm planning on upgrading my pc with a new graphics card. I would like some nVidia card since they seem to have better drivers. Is there some automatic way of installing those or it's just ./nvidia-downloaded-driver.sh and so on to the module compilation ?07:46
TeddBlueDevil: There ya go07:47
TeddLemme restart and NOT do the killall esd thing, I'lll be right back.07:47
neomatrixsome one let me know the root password for the live cd distro of ubuntu07:47
neomatrixversion 5.1007:47
orkinhey, so I downloaded this driver for my modem, it's a .deb file, how do I install it?07:48
kenkkuneomatrix: there's no root in ubuntu (not sure about livecd) use sudo with your own pass07:48
unimatrix9scrouch : cant play it over here07:48
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unimatrix9seems to be some offbeat format07:48
emineomatrix: sudo sh then type your pass07:48
scroochoh mennn :( unimatrix907:48
koyodaorkin: dpkg -i modem.deb07:48
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neomatrixthanks kenkku: do u know how to install ubuntu onto the hard disk thru the live cd?07:49
kenkkuneomatrix: hmm, dont know how but i can look it up for you07:49
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cozhello all again07:49
scroochill try vlc unimatrix907:49
unimatrix9ill try mplayer right now07:50
neomatrixsure...me too trying google for it..hehe07:50
cozno mplayer07:50
SWATbor, ping07:50
neomatrixthx07:50
scroochthere are some mms codecs in the reps, but i dont know how to use them; they are libs07:50
SWATbor, are you there?07:50
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cozscrooch what are you trying to do?07:50
scroochmms://212.54.36.46/l1radio  getting this stream to work coz07:50
unimatrix9trying to play mms://212.54.36.46/l1radio07:50
cozok07:51
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scroochtried gstreamer, xine and mplayer already07:51
cozhow about totem-xine07:51
unimatrix9mms protocol is the bad side07:51
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zool2005good evening07:51
scroochno luch with vlc07:51
TeddBlueDevil: Anything interesting?07:52
cozwhoa good evening where are you?07:52
zool2005France07:52
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DBAlexHey07:52
DBAlexSmall question07:52
BlueDevilTedd: output looks normal :(07:52
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cozOh no wonder only 1:52 in afternoon here US07:52
_jasonscrooch, are you sure the stream plays?  for example on windows?07:52
cozthursday07:52
jordo23Hey peeps07:52
DBAlexHow do i get the workspaces icons back to the right of the gnome panel?07:52
zool2005it's nearly 8pm here07:53
BlueDevilTedd: cables ok? tried plug out/in?07:53
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scrooch_jason, no07:53
TeddAlready done yeah07:53
DBAlexsomehow i got them to go on the left07:53
DBAlexand cant change em back :S07:53
BlueDevilTedd: using analog?07:53
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scrooch_jason, i dont have windows at hand unfortunately07:53
TeddWha?07:53
DBAlexHello?07:53
DBAlex:S07:53
cozright click the workspace unlick right click again move07:53
unimatrix9if i put in an soundcard, ubunut sets it up without problems?07:53
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cozunlock07:53
BlueDevilTedd: analog output or digital?07:53
orkindpkg requires superuser privelages07:53
orkinwtf I am superyser arent I?07:53
zool2005ok, I'm a ubuntu newbie and I want to install skypeXXXX.deb package, can anyone help?07:53
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jordo23Does anyone know why whenever I try to get a program through apt-get it states it cant find the program. Then when I update my sources.list...I get errors everytime I try to install something.07:53
_jasonorkin, sudo07:53
illustreA STAR next to a pkg in synaptic what does it mean?07:53
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drakoutlawhi all07:53
BlueDevilunimatrix9: yes, it should do that if the soundcard is supported and detected properly07:53
cozyeah skype doesn't work unless you get the previou verrsion through automatix07:54
unimatrix9ok thanx07:54
DBAlexdoesnt work :S07:54
DBAlexThe move thing is greyed out07:54
DBAlex:|07:54
unimatrix9setting up an demo ubuntu pc for school07:54
unimatrix9:)07:54
LoPMXwhy desn't ubuntu has it's own desktop manager?07:54
jgrieveswhere does debian put X11 libs?07:54
cozdownload automatix , set it up and use it to install skype07:54
zool2005automatix??07:54
coz I have it working on my machine07:54
kenkkuis there an installer for ubuntu livecd to install it on hdd?07:54
BlueDevilLoPMX: like what? ubuntuDE07:54
zool2005what is automatix?07:54
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robotgeekubotu: tell zool2005 about skype07:54
Agrajagkenkku: no07:54
cozgo to brwoser type automatix go to page and donwload07:55
Agrajagyou need the install cd07:55
cozto desktop07:55
jgrievesrobotgeek where does debian put X11 libs?07:55
robotgeekzool2005: you don't need automatix07:55
kenkkuAgrajag: any way to install it?07:55
coztrue07:55
DBAlexoh fuck07:55
jgrievesits not in /usr/X11r6/lib07:55
DBAlexive just deleted the desktops thing07:55
DBAlexHELP!07:55
robotgeekjgrieves: dpkg -L <packagename> | less07:55
DBAlex:O07:55
cozautomatix helps07:55
DBAlex!!!!!!!!!!!07:55
ubotuDBAlex: I don't know, could you explain it?07:55
orkinstatus database area is locked by another process07:55
robotgeekcoz: he is a new user, it enables root and all. no need for that07:55
Agrajagkenkku: yes, get the install cd. Or the live DVD, which has an installer07:55
DBAlexIve just deleted the thing where you can change desktops in the gnome panel/taskbar07:55
TeddBlueDevIL: No clue.07:55
coznew users have to learn that as well07:56
jgrievesrobotgeek what is X11 packagename?07:56
DBAlex!!!07:56
ubotuwell, ! is what you add before a sentence to talk to me07:56
zool2005can I install the .deb package?07:56
cozit makes installation easier if you need ai can walk you through it07:56
Agrajagbut from the livecd, I don't think there's much you can do, unless the CD comes with debootstrap or something07:56
LoPMXBlueDevil, dunno, like a new, good, well designed one07:56
kenkkuAgrajag: nah I don't have it but neomatrix wants to know.07:56
DBAlexHow can i get it back~?07:56
_jasonorkin, what are you trying to do?  be sure you don't have synaptic or update manager open since they use the same database as dpkg07:56
drakoutlawfor automatix see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=43360407:56
kenkkuneomatrix: no install.. you have to get the install cd or live dvd07:56
jordo23Does anyone know why I cannot download anything from Apt with a default installation of Ubuntu?07:56
DBAlexedit the .list file07:56
DBAlex:P07:57
BlueDevilTedd: how many cables running from the sound card to the speakers? what speakers? 5.1? 2.1? 2.0?07:57
_jasonjordo23, do you get an error of some kind?07:57
cozwhat are you trying to download?07:57
DBAlexand sudo apt-get update07:57
robotgeek!tell jgrieves about xinclues07:57
orkinwhat other processes use status database area?07:57
BlueDevilLoPMX: what's wrong with gnome, kde, xfce, fluxbox?07:57
cozkde sucks07:57
jgrieves!ubuntu tell jgrieves about xincludes07:57
drakoutlawjordo23 did u use sudo?07:57
ubotujgrieves: Do they come in packets of five?07:57
jordo23_jason: Well, it states it can't find any packages. And when I update the sources.list file, then I get errors up the wazoo...07:57
LoPMXBlueDevil, just take a look ;] 07:57
jgrieves!ubotu tell jgrieves about xincludes07:57
robotgeek!tell jgrieves about xincldues07:57
TeddWell, I have a subwoofer and four speakers.07:57
jordo23drakoutlaw: yes. I am familar with Debian07:57
DBAlexcan someone help me, ive delete the icon where you can change desktops on the gnome panel07:57
robotgeek*err*07:57
jgrievesnothing07:57
DBAlexhow do i restore it07:57
_jasonjordo23, pastebin your sources.list as well as the errors you get07:57
DBAlexThanks :D07:57
robotgeek!xincludes07:58
ubotuWhen a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev07:58
BlueDevilTedd: and how many cables?07:58
jgrievesperfect07:58
jordo23_jason: where should I paste it?07:58
_jasonDBAlex, right click and add to panel... then look for desktop switcher or something similar07:58
neomatrixkennku: But how do i save files in that case onto the hardisk?07:58
_jasonubotu, tell jordo23 about pastebin07:58
DBAlexAhhh07:58
DBAlexThanks07:58
DBAlexWoot!07:58
DBAlex:D07:58
BlueDeviljordo23:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl07:58
DBAlexI have a sexy mac os x theme installed07:59
DBAlexits sweet07:59
DBAlexive only been using ubuntu for 2 days07:59
DBAlexlol07:59
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cozeeeww07:59
cozmac os07:59
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DBAlexim a mac os x/windows switcher...07:59
DBAlex... : D07:59
DBAlexanyone ever tried ubuntu on the mac mini??07:59
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sylviesalut07:59
DBAlex(Im running on an athlon 64)08:00
jgrievesis the composite extension installed by default08:00
cozno how does it work on the mac mini?08:00
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TeddBlueDevil: In the computer right now, there are two of them.08:00
jgrieves!tell jgrieves about composite08:00
DBAlexThrough the PPC version08:00
sylvieya des francais ??!08:00
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cozhow about a pc mini08:00
DBAlex:S08:00
LoPMXd08:00
DBAlexNo08:00
raphinksylvie: /join #ubuntu-fr08:00
LoPMXDBAlex, which theme?08:00
DBAlexUmmm08:00
DBAlexdunno, one from gnome-themes08:00
DBAlex1 sec08:00
TeddBlueDevil: From the subwoofer, there are four cables; one for each speaker.08:00
DBAlexwait08:00
DBAlexgnome look08:00
DBAlex.. 1 sec08:00
raphinksylvie: tape /join #ubuntu-fr pour rejoindre le chan francophone08:00
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robotgeekjgrieves: you can chat with ubotu, man on man /msg ubotu hi :)08:01
sylvie /join #ubuntu-fr08:01
sylviesalut08:01
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BlueDevil:)08:01
raphinksylvie: sans l'espace ;)08:01
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jgrievesrobotgeek yep he just told me08:01
sylvielol merci08:01
unimatrix9try again sylvie08:01
jgrievesrobotgeek in fact he wouldn't talk to me otherwis e:)08:01
unimatrix9hehe08:01
robotgeekjgrieves: :)08:01
_jasonheh how does lol translate in french?08:01
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DBAlexLoPMX: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=2744608:01
unimatrix9au du lol08:01
omegHey guys.08:01
jgrievesrobotgeek he said "hey $#%@$# stop spamming hte channel get your $%@$# client to use /msg08:01
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unimatrix9:P08:02
jgrievesrobotgeek quite rude...08:02
robotgeekjgrieves: :)08:02
jgrieves:)08:02
john_Hey.08:02
BlueDevilTedd: and sound was working with just the two cables from sound card to subwoofer?08:02
omegI'm wondering if anybody is experiencing the same graphics-related Ubuntu bug that I am.08:02
unimatrix9could be...08:02
DBAlexI cant even find drivers for mine08:02
DBAlex:S08:02
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omegI'm running 5.10 on a Toshiba Satellite 4090CDS. It runs 800x600x24.08:02
jordo23_jason: It's posted.....do you see it?08:02
DBAlexwell none that are .deb packages08:02
LoPMXDBAlex, thanks, wanna see if it is better than mine ;] 08:02
DBAlexYeah08:02
omegBut the bottom part of the screen contains garbage.08:02
_jasonjordo23, paste the link here08:02
DBAlexits not bad08:02
john_Hey, an anyone point me to a good consumer support place?08:02
unimatrix9drivers for nvidia, on nvidia site, for ati, on the ati site..08:02
DBAlexstuff is on the right tho (Buttons)08:02
DBAlex:S : (08:02
unimatrix9right?08:02
john_I don't mind paying for support, I just don't know where to go.08:03
TeddBlueDevil: I haven't looked at the wiring in a while. Lemme trace the cables.08:03
jordo23jason_: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/45435808:03
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LoPMXDBAlex, what dock do u use?08:03
omegThe screen is still usable except a region of about 750-784 pixels, which are solely garbage. The effect doesn't occur when running 800x600 in Windows 98, or when running 640x480.08:03
omegAnybody got a clue?08:03
DBAlexI dont08:03
DBAlexlol08:03
rightcoastjoin #infonomicon08:03
rightcoastsorry guys08:03
DBAlexI tried to install something called Engage last nite08:03
rightcoastforgot a slash08:03
DBAlexthe repository was f*ked tho08:04
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DBAlexUbuntu didnt like it at all08:04
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DBAlexit doesnt like WINE tho either08:04
DBAlex:(08:04
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DBAlexIm tempted to get Crossover Office08:04
DBAlex...08:04
BlueDeviljordo23: and the errors?08:04
DBAlexI need Photoshop!08:04
DBAlexlol08:04
unimatrix9gimp the lot08:04
jordo23BlueDevil:  One sec08:04
TeddBlueDevil: Yeah, they were working with two wires running into the sound card.08:04
DBAlexThe GIMP is no replacement for PS imho anyway08:04
DBAlex:\08:04
DBAlexneither is that crappy "Gimp Shop" or w/e its called08:05
DBAlex:\08:05
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omegDoes GIMP have CMYK support yet?08:05
DBAlexLoPMX: Do you reccomend a dock?08:05
DBAlexI still want one08:05
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unimatrix9if you are really so in need for photo shop , whats the point of using linux?08:05
vbgunzDBAlex: cause G requires just a new learning skill over PS... I can understand08:05
DBAlexDont think so08:05
BlueDevilTedd: can you power off/on the speakers? already tried?08:05
DBAlexheh08:05
DBAlexNo, i just dont like Gimp08:05
DBAlexsorry :(08:05
vbgunzDBAlex: write Adobe and ask them why they playing themselves?08:06
TeddYeah. From the speakers individually and from the subwoofer BlueDevil08:06
_jasonjordo23, you should uncomment lines 5 and 6 (those are the main packages!).  Add " multiverse" to the end of  lines 20, 21, 36 and 37.  If you want security updates, you should also uncommment 33,34,36 and 37.  (uncomment just means remove the beginning '#' on the line)08:06
omegunimatrix9: some of us need Photoshop (not Photo Shop), whether it be for a hobby or for a job.08:06
omegDoesn't mean we can't use Linux on a dual boot.08:06
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DBAlexunimatrix9: because of windows viruses...08:06
DBAlexand im curious08:06
DBAlexlol :)08:06
aimazwhat process is responsible for CDs being automatically mounted in ubuntu?08:06
LoPMXDBAlex, me just testing engage08:06
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BlueDevilTedd: can you plug the speakers into another sound source?08:07
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DBAlexmy job is a web designer08:07
unimatrix9some thing cant be done on linux, alas08:07
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DBAlexso i cant really be using "The GIMP"08:07
DBAlex:S08:07
LoPMXDBAlex, then could u pls redesign my www.layer22.com? ;] 08:07
DBAlex:\08:07
DBAlexok08:07
DBAlexDepends if you can pay or not08:07
omegMe too, DBAlex. But this isn't my working computer. I primarily work with Flash, so that's no go.08:07
LoPMXDBAlex, ca08:07
DBAlexyeah08:07
LoPMXcan08:07
omegI use OSX for that.08:08
DBAlexcool08:08
LoPMXbrb08:08
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DBAlexmy last client scammed me08:08
DBAlexso im a little wary at the moment08:08
unimatrix9brb? what program is that..lol08:08
omegI can't wait for the x86 Mac hardware so I can triple boot Mac, Linux, and Windows...08:08
TeddBlueDevil: There are other plugs, but none of the color codes match the plug. ANd besides, I tried before, it doesn't work.08:08
vbgunzDBAlex: if you spent less than a week trying to really understand the GIMP, trust me, you would probably appreciate it for more than PS anyway... PS is an expensive app. Gimp is free. Rather than invest 800 or so dollars on PS, invest two weeks into learning Gimp and you'll see a nice ROI08:08
omegDBAlex: wow, really?08:08
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DBAlexYep08:08
omegThat's never happened to me...08:08
BlueDevilTedd: can you plug another speakers into the sound card?08:09
jordo23_jason: add multiverse in place of universe or after it?08:09
DBAlexDamn bastard cancelled the paypal and everything08:09
omegvbgunz: you can't tell that to professional designers, unfortunately.08:09
Chousukeomeg: legally too :D08:09
DBAlextrust me never work with gamers...08:09
DBAlex:\08:09
rightcoastDBAlex, i had a lady call asking me too "get back her website files"08:09
TeddBlueDevil: There are other plugs, but none of the color codes match the plug. ANd besides, I tried before, it doesn't work.08:09
_jasonjordo23, just after it08:09
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rightcoastmeaning steal them through computer b&e from the dev08:09
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BlueDevilTedd: dunno then08:09
rightcoasti called him and he told me she hadnt paid in over a year :\08:09
unimatrix9so if you use photoshop , you are suddenly an professional designer ...hmmm08:09
DBAlexlol08:09
omegIt takes longer than a week to fully understand a full graphics suite, and you can't spend that kind of time if you have to work. So it'll be maybe one hour a night.08:09
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omegunimatrix9: er.08:09
omegWhen did I say that?08:09
jgrievesany ididea what Xm.h is?08:10
jeed890hi seveas u here?08:10
DBAlexunimatrix9: Hell no08:10
DBAlexive been web designing for 3 years08:10
omegPlease do not put words in my mouth, unimatrix9.08:10
vbgunzomeg: I probably cannot tell that to an employee of someone who hired them to work *only* with Photoshop *but* if someone works for themselves... A two week investment in learning Gimp is much more professional imho :)08:10
DBAlexand im still beginner imho...08:10
DBAlex:|08:10
john_Where would one go to add a serial modem?08:10
omegvbgunz: are you a designer?08:10
john_My PC card shows up as serial device, but I don't know where I go to treat it as a modem.08:10
DBAlexlol08:11
vbgunzomeg: not really but in theory it all stands true08:11
Chousukeas far as I know Gimp lacks pantone and stuff that make it not so attractive to pros.08:11
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unimatrix9designers use an mac, i thought...08:11
DBAlexask anyone who is a graphic/web/print designer... GIMP is no competition for Photoshop08:11
DBAlex:(08:11
omegBecause you don't seem like one. The reason being that everybody who is a designer is totally uninterested in learning a different graphics suite just because then they can use open source software. They don't use Photoshop because their employers force them to: they do it because it's the industry standard.08:11
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Chousukebut complaining about gimp's UI is just lame :)08:11
rightcoastim not a design guy, i can gimpo a wallpaper together or whatever, nothing major08:11
rightcoasts/gimpo/gimp08:12
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LoPMXholy fuck08:12
jordo23_jason: I posted the edited file....does this look right?    >>>    http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/45437408:12
ChousukeIt's not like Photoshop's is any better. and a pro can work with any UI.08:12
omegAlso, designers don't design because they like to use graphics software: they do it because they like to design. Photoshop allows them to design. There is no reason to switch to GIMP with that reasoning.08:12
LoPMXDBAlex, just got enlightenment v.0.17 running08:12
vbgunzomeg: until everyone finds out Halo the movie is being entirely CGI'ed on a Linux farm :P08:12
DBAlexOMFG!08:12
LoPMXwow08:12
DBAlexO M F G08:12
DBAlexDUDE!08:12
omegChousuke: doesn't mean that they _will_.08:12
DBAlexlink?08:12
DBAlexPlease!08:12
DBAlexWooT!08:12
Chousukeomeg: of course.08:12
LoPMXwait a moment08:12
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Chousukeomeg: but there are pros that work with the Gimp too :)08:12
unimatrix9i am not trying to anger anyone, please..08:13
Chousukeusing photoshop where necessary.08:13
DBAlex:S08:13
omegChousuke: take it from me that the design sector is one sector that Linux will _not_ conquer. Nobody uses the GIMP except one or two individuals who happen to really like it.08:13
BlueDevilwtf does photoshop have to to with ubuntu?!08:13
DBAlexDoubt it08:13
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DBAlexI mean08:13
DBAlexi know lots of designers08:13
DBAlexthey think the gimp is a joke08:13
DBAlex:\08:13
LoPMXhttp://www.soulmachine.net/wiki/08:13
omegActually, the only times I've seen designers that use GIMP is at sites from designers that promote open source software.08:13
LoPMXhit it08:13
omegLike Jimmac...08:13
Chousukeomeg: That's where you're wrong. You can't say it will not conquer.08:13
LoPMXIT IS SOOOO COOOL08:13
_jasongo offtopic with the gimp stuff pls: #ubuntu-offtopic08:13
DBAlexthanks man :D08:13
Chousukewho knows if Gimp 3 will be 2020484 times better than Photoshop08:14
vbgunzomeg: that is true... see Ps is expensive... most people think that if they pay for something they get what they pay for whereas most people do not even realize such great work can be accomplished on Linux if *only* they would have invested there time and not there money... after all time = money :P08:14
jordo23The gimp is a joke....but so was Photoshop ten years ago.08:14
omegYes, I can. I am a designer, and I know the design industry. I don't think you can just state things like that if you don't know what you're talking about, Chousuke.08:14
Chousukeomeg: You don't know how Gimp will develop08:14
jordo23_jason: Did you look at the modified file?08:14
DBAlexbrb dudes08:14
Chousukeomeg: or do you? are you a gimp dev?08:14
unimatrix9hmm, other topic?08:14
unimatrix9hehe08:14
jgrievesany idea what Xm.h library is?08:14
vbgunzhaha08:14
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_jasonjordo23, sorry, I missed it.  Can you paste it again pls?08:15
vbgunztake over, the breaks over...08:15
jordo23_jason:   http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/45437408:15
jgrievesGlw?08:15
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omegChousuke: haha, by that logic, anything can happen...08:15
Chousukejgrieves: search for the file in packages.ubuntu.com08:15
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Chousukeomeg: anything CAN happen08:15
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omegDoesn't mean that there's a reasonable chance that it will.08:15
Chousukeomeg: with open source, it just takes one hella devoted developer08:15
unimatrix9use whatever you need to get your job done!08:15
Chousuke:D08:15
_jasonjordo23, looks fine, go ahead and reload it in synaptic08:15
Chousukeomeg: but there is. a chance.08:15
vbgunzunimatrix9: I agree08:15
omegNo... one open source developer isn't enough.08:15
unimatrix9and dont complain about the price you have to pay..08:15
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aimazis HAL the process that mounts cds when i insert them?08:16
jordo23_jason: I am not using synaptic.....I am going from command line08:16
aimazor hald08:16
_jasonjordo23, ok, sudo apt-get update08:16
Chousukeand with the amount of complaints from pros about gimp, changes are some developers will start developing it for pros08:16
rightcoastIf people had no choice but to actually *pay* for photoshop, there would be 90% less users08:16
rightcoastlets be honest08:16
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rightcoastheh08:16
omegChousuke: trust me. The GIMP will never outdo Photoshop. Neither in quality, nor in popularity. It's zealous to think so. Even if it does become better, it is never going to replace Photoshop as industry standard.08:16
M_Wettendorffdoes anyone knows if i can have php 4 and php 5 installed__08:16
Chousukeomeg: You can not say that for sure.08:16
Chousukeomeg: I'm not saying it will ever become so08:17
Chousukebut it does have a chance.08:17
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vbgunzunimatrix9: it is far easier to dish out 800 dollars rather than seriously invest 800 dollars of your time. This is one of the reasons why Ps is huge... If it cost even more, more people would flock to it... If Gimp has a price tag of 1,600 everyone would flock to the Gimp... Don't know, it is sort of true imho :P08:17
omegChousuke: by that logic, you can say "Finland is going to conquer the world with rocket-propelled army bunnies. You can't say that it won't because you don't know for sure."08:17
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sylvie__commen je f dja pr lavoir en francai le tchat?08:17
Chousukeomeg: except gimp's chances are better than that happening08:17
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Chousukeit's all about probability.08:17
nox-HandHey08:18
omegI know the design industry because I've been in it for years, and I know how it operates. Trust me, as much as you'd like open source software to beat heavyweights like Adobe, it's just not gonna happen.08:18
aimazsylvie, #ubuntu-fr08:18
navaroneidk Chousuke The finisha re crafty folk...<s>08:18
nox-HandDoes anyone know how to use rsync?08:18
aimazsylvie__, #ubuntu-fr08:18
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omeg[20:17]  <Chousuke> it's all about probability. <-- don't tell me you think that GIMP triumphing over Adobe has _any_ chance of ever happening.08:18
sylvie__#ubuntu-fr08:18
Chousukeomeg: sure it does.08:18
sylvie__hue commen ?!08:18
jordo23_jason: seemed to work. thanks a lot!08:18
_jasonjordo23, great, np08:18
omegChousuke: sure, 0.000000000000000000000000001% maybe.08:18
Agrajagsylvie__: /join #ubuntu-fr08:18
omegAnd if so, then it will be in 10 years.08:19
sylvie__merci08:19
omegIf that.08:19
sylvie__mais commen tu sais kil fo faire ca ?N08:19
Chousukeomeg: some wise man once said that one-in-a-million chances tend to happen nine times out of ten08:19
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Zdrasylvie__: maybe try to speak french before speaking on a french channel...08:19
unimatrix9omeg ; you are right , ok!?08:19
omeg[20:19]  <Chousuke> omeg: some wise man once said that one-in-a-million chances tend to happen nine times out of ten <-- okay :)08:19
BlueDevil#ubuntu-offtopic for f***'s sake08:19
vbgunzomeg: spend two weeks here: http://www.gimptalk.com08:19
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nox-Handknow how to use Rsync anyone? Need a tiny bit of help..08:20
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BlueDevilnox-Hand: ask away08:20
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ChousukeI don't like how omeg takes photoshop as THE standard.08:20
calc2think TCP and DRM it could easily overtake photoshop if they implement real security08:20
omegEr.08:20
omegIt is, Chousuke.08:20
_jasonguys, the offtopic channel is there so you can talk about things such as gimp and photoshop.  This is for support.  /j #ubuntu-offtopic08:20
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vbgunzhaha08:20
nox-HandBlueDevil: I have an iso file i downloaded that had a wrong md5sum. And I heard I can use rsync to correct it08:20
aimazChousuke, tbh, I never use windows, but anyone who does more than mess about with graphics uses photoshop08:20
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BlueDevilChousuke: i don't like it either, but you don't see me continue the debate, do you?08:21
aimazthe gimp is better than it used to be but does not compare to photoshop08:21
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omegYeah, if you want to continue this, feel free to invite me to #ubuntu-offtopic, Chousuke...08:21
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omegI'm still wondering if there's anybody here who knows more about my strange graphics glitch.08:21
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nox-HandBlueDevil: Do you know how to use that command?08:22
BlueDevilnox-Hand: rsync is used to sync files/directories among different computers, if the site you downloaded from supports rsync then you might be able to08:22
unimatrix9omeg, what is it kicking - resulution-08:22
unimatrix9?08:22
calc2wow i must be lagged about 10min08:22
pinucsethow can i be sure that i downloaded a non corrupted iso?08:22
omegThere's a strange graphics glitch at the bottom of my screen. It's garbage scanlines-esque... something.08:22
unimatrix9to high maybe?08:22
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BlueDevilnox-Hand: be warned though, the traffic generated by rsync can be greater than a fresh iso download08:22
illustreok moving from thre live cd to full instalation, does the full instalation allow me to partition the HD ?  i want to preserve the win partition snd create new partition currently i am @ aprition disk but dont see option to make new partition08:22
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omegIt's at 800x600 (old Toshiba laptop).08:23
aimazpinucset, check the md5 sum if you know it or mount it on the loopback device08:23
omegThat resolution works just fine in Windows, but it seems to spawn this glitch in Ubuntu.08:23
BlueDevilpinucset: compare md5 sums08:23
omegStrange thing is that the garbage is right above the bottom program bar.08:23
nox-HandBlueDevil. Okay, what is the code for it? rsync /home/nox-hand/file.iso ftp.site.com/file or something like it?08:23
unimatrix9well, the freq could be too high08:23
BlueDevilillustre: yes, it does08:23
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omegHmm08:23
illustreBlueDevil, how i dont see the option there08:23
BlueDevilnox-Hand: not that simple08:24
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omegThe glitch doesn't happen at 640x48008:24
omegAnyway, since this is a laptop, it can't display anything besides 60 hz.08:24
BlueDevilillustre: did you do manual partitioning?08:24
nox-HandBlueDevil: Oh.08:24
illustreyes08:24
AbsenthI don't suppose anyone knows how likely a usb -> RS232 adaptor is to work in ubuntu 5.10 breezy?08:24
BlueDevilnox-Hand: does the site support rsync?08:24
nox-HandDo not know08:24
unimatrix9take an look at your xorg file08:25
nox-HandThe file is on loads of servers, so can I not just use any of them?08:25
aimazAbsenth, i used one with redhat and it worked fine08:25
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illustreall i see is configure raid. configue lvm   guided partitiong help on partitioing08:25
Absenthaimaz, configuring routers and the like?08:25
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nox-HandBlueDevil: Do not know08:25
nox-HandBlueDevil: The file is on loads of servers, so can I not just use any of them?08:25
aimazAbsenth, only with a mouse...08:25
Absenthaimaz, nod nod, thanks.08:25
BlueDevilillustre: what do you see below that?08:25
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unimatrix9hmm, i am off08:26
unimatrix9bye08:26
SirKillalotdoes someone know a good webcrawler to save one page?08:26
Absenthhow could I tell if ubuntu found the device after plugging it into a usb port?08:26
BlueDevilnox-Hand: imo it's not worth using rsync08:26
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illustreide1  master hda,  rpimary ntfs 40gb  /media/hda108:26
unimatrix9firefox can save the page08:26
SirKillalotAbsenth, lsusb08:26
BlueDevilnox-Hand: it will generate huge traffic just comparing the files08:26
BlueDevilnox-Hand: and then transferring deltas08:26
aimazAbsenth, tail -f the syslog as you plug it in08:26
nox-HandBlueDevil: It is not? I was told it was a lot better than having to redownload 2099 MB08:27
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unimatrix9and there is an plugin that can save an intere website for offline browsing08:27
SirKillalotI want to crawl the whole page with all the links on the same server... any tool?08:27
BlueDevilillustre: do you see "free space" ?08:27
unimatrix9httrack, or the firefox plugin08:27
illustreno08:27
SirKillaloti would prefer to use an own program for this because of stability and speed reasons08:27
unimatrix9google for it08:27
aimazunimatrix9, wget can do that08:27
BlueDevilnox-Hand: it works alot better for text files than for binary files08:28
unimatrix9ok, tell him08:28
unimatrix9:)08:28
unimatrix9got to go08:28
unimatrix9bye08:28
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Agrajagunimatrix9: can you just go on bittorrent with that file and let it fix it for you?08:28
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Absenthalright, it does see it :)08:28
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Agrajager08:28
BlueDevilnox-Hand: i tried once to sync a couple of databases with it, baad choice08:28
Absenthaimaz, SirKillalot danke.08:28
SirKillalotaimaz, wget can track links on a page and save them and so on?08:28
Agrajagnox-hand: can you just go on bittorrent with that file and let it fix it for you?08:28
illustrei need to resize hda1 to create free space to make new partitions?08:28
LoPMXhow do i run gtk2 engine?08:28
aimazSirKillalot, yeah, i think it's -r or -R check the manpage08:28
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nox-HandAgrajag: How? I did not get the file with bittorrent08:29
BlueDevilillustre: if hda1 occupies the whole disk, yes08:29
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Agrajagnox-Hand: is it available on bittorrent?08:29
AgrajagWhat is the file?08:29
illustrecan i do it in here ?08:29
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BlueDevilillustre: not sure, never done it; perhaps someone else in the channel can help you08:29
nox-HandAgrajag: Yes, but on bittorrent it downloads slower than regular?08:29
Agrajagnox-Hand: it'll still be faster than re-downloading the whole thing, won't it?08:30
BlueDevilillustre: fwiw, i've heard that it can be done in the installer, might be wrong though08:30
illustrei am surprise the instalation does not provide that, i think suse did,  will gparted in the livce cd let me do that08:30
KnowerrorsHey all, how do I disable the root account if I created one?08:30
sammy76i'm having a problem with it not recognizing my cd-rom drive during install, anyone able to help08:30
navaroneillustre...you can install gparted as well...but you can only resize partitions that are not mounted...ie not your boot partition for ubuntu08:30
jgrieveswhat is the ocmmand to loo kto see what extensions are running on X?08:30
BlueDevilillustre: yes, you can do it with gtparted on a live cd08:30
nox-HandAgrajag: How do I get it to fix it in bittorrent?08:30
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nox-HandAgrajag: I have opened Bittorrent08:31
Agrajagnox-Hand: just get on the torrent, tell it to save to that file you downloaded, and let it run08:31
illustrethats the only way correct?  here in the regular instalation cd i can't ?08:31
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diegobuenasss08:31
diegocomo va?08:31
nox-HandOkay08:31
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nox-HandBRB then08:31
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diegohablan espaol?08:31
Agrajag!es08:31
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.08:31
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BlueDevilillustre: read what I said earlier08:32
navaroneillustre...you can also go thru aprtitioning part of install...resdize partition...write changes to disk and then abort rest of install by backing out in menu08:32
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neighborleewhy was the RMB on a menu item removed does anyone know ?08:32
BlueDevilillustre: talk to navarone08:32
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illustrenavarone, thaks i am just reaqding that right now08:32
illustrenavarone, will it screw the winxp instalation ?08:33
jgrieveswhat is the ocmmand to loo kto see what extensions are running on X?08:33
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jgrieveswow08:33
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jgrieveswhat is the command to see what extensions X is running?08:33
navaroneilllustre...you may have to scroll downa bit...maybe pagedown...in menu to see abort install option when finished changing partitions08:33
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Kentaurok I was told someone here might know about rsync here. Could anyone tell me what to type to sync to PCs in a lan?08:33
navaroneillustre...it will not as long as you pick the correct partitions to modify and are careful...back up data anyway tho...cos $%& happens08:34
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nox-HandAgrajag: This is what I get when I try to set ot to get Bittorrent to download the file to same folder as the org bad file is: /home/nox-Hand/Desktop/SUSE-10.0-EvalDVD-i386-GM.iso.torrent >Bad file info<<08:34
illustrenavarone, strange its telling me the minimum size i can use is 92%08:34
jgrieveswhat is the command to see what extensions X is running?08:34
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illustrenavarone, that means i would only have *% of the 40gb for my new partitoins?  not worth it08:35
navaroneillustre...I don't know your set-up...how big a partition you looking to make?08:35
M_Wettendorffhow do i uninstall Mysql / PHP and Apache??08:35
jordo23What's the best IRC client to use under Gnome?  I am a KDE user.08:35
chrisx1How Do i find if my cam is installed?08:35
BlueDevilillustre: how full is the xp partition?08:35
illustrewell he hd is 40gb  i would like to steal 20gb08:35
BlueDeviljgrieves: hold on, trying to find that08:35
jgrievesBlueDevil thanks me 2 :)08:35
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navaroneillustre...defrag win xp before as well...so as not to have stray data on mixed partitions08:35
illustrehow full i dont know unless i log into win again08:35
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chrisx1How Do i find if my cam is installed?08:36
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illustrewjen it days new partition size u can use is for the already existing partition correct?08:37
navaroneillustre...probably easier to install gparted w/ synaptic and use it...it is gui and pretty straight forward. You can google for safe usage08:37
chrisx1How Do i find if my cam is installed?08:37
jgrievesxdpyinfo i think08:37
jordo23Does anyone know if the current version of Ubuntu corresponds to Stable, testing, or unstable version of Debian?08:37
illustrei might do that thxs08:38
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navaroneillustre> I beleive you can specify how big the win xp partition will be when resized...then the freesapce is what you can use for other installs08:38
jgrievesBlueDevil got it08:38
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jgrievesxdpyinfo08:38
M_Wettendorffhow do i uninstall Mysql / PHP and Apache??08:38
jgrievessorry and thanks08:38
navaroneillustre, so if you hjave 40gigger...make size in field 20gb and it will resize to that amount08:38
chrisx1How Do i find if my cam is installed?08:38
illustrelet me log to win to make sure how much is in use thisi s my wifes laptop08:38
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illustrenavarone, but it was telling that the minimum sive could be 96%08:39
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sammy76can you see what i'm typing08:40
Agrajagno08:40
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ompaulsammy76, no I can't :-)08:41
sammy76didn't think so08:41
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navaroneillustre, I dont know why it would say that...08:41
chrisx1Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0c45:602a Microdia Meade ETX-105EC Camera <- How Do i install it?08:41
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d03boywhen using the file browser to run a jar file it seems to always think that my current working directory is my home directory (which its not..) how do I deal with this?08:41
TeddCan anybody help me with getting my speakers working?08:41
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TeddThey were working before, last night. Now they aren't working at all.08:41
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alvarohola chatines08:41
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illustrei just checked in windows i t has 22.7 gb of free space out of 37.2  linux sees 40gb total08:42
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illustrei might try the live cd and use gparted and then try full instalation08:42
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versailyi need help!08:43
versailyi have forgoten what the root pass is08:43
versailyis there a way to change/ c what it is?08:43
Agrajagversaily: there isn't one08:43
KTheRootPeople with gmail account is capable of inviting others right? Well, since its christmas and all... would anyone like to be nice?08:43
versaily:(08:43
Agrajag!tell versaily about rootsudo08:43
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chrisx1KTheRoot, i have some ill invite08:44
Agrajagversaily: that is to say, there is no root password08:44
chrisx1pm me ur email08:44
versaily?08:44
versailywhat u mean?08:44
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Agrajagversaily: the bot messaged you08:44
Xenguy!u08:44
ubotuThe letter 'U' is not a pronoun, unless you're Dutch.  U mag wel 'je' zeggen, hoor.08:44
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KentaurKTheRoot: Ok PM me your email.08:44
Agrajagversaily: go to the link that the bot sent you08:44
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versailyok08:44
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Agrajagversaily: ubuntu does not use a root password, it uses sudo to give you root priveleges using the same password you used to log in.08:45
versailyso when i type su08:45
Agrajagdon't type su.08:45
versailywhat sould i put in?08:45
versailyonly sudo?08:45
Agrajagif you want a root shell, run sudo -i08:45
Agrajagif you just want to run one command as root, run sudo <command>08:45
sammy76anyone know anything about mounting cd-rw drives during install08:45
BlueDevilxdpyinfo | grep -A 100 'number of extensions' | grep -B 100 'default screen'08:45
ompaulversaily, read the page ubotu sent you08:46
koyoda!repositories08:46
ubotu[repositories]  How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list08:46
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koyoda!sources08:47
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic08:47
ubun-newbiewhat is the name of that program bmpx08:47
illustrecan someone confirm this08:47
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ubun-newbiei do sudo apt-get install bmpx  no packet found08:47
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jackmacokci'm having a problem with apache - anyone know why i can't connect to localhost? is there something i'm missing?08:47
Syirrusdo sudo apt-cache search bmpx  and see if it comes us08:48
Syirrusus = up08:48
Exxcaliberubun-newbie, if you wanna know the name of a proggy, just search for it like this " sudo apt-cache search bmp"08:48
illustrewhen the installer resize tool says the min size of partion can be xx is refering of old partition not new partition that is created from the resize feature08:48
KnowerrorsHow I disable/remove the root password if its been created?08:48
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ubun-newbiei want to download a program where they have radio station08:49
ubun-newbieto listen radio station08:49
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illustreubun-newbie, amarok08:49
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Exxcaliberubun-newbie, oh okay.. you need a program which supports mp3 streaming.. you can find the radio stations at www.shoutcast.com08:50
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BlueDevilKnowerrors: passwd -l root08:50
ubun-newbiei am install amarok what is amarok08:50
KnowerrorsBlueDevil: thx08:50
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BlueDevilKnowerrors: yw08:50
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jackmacokcubun-newbie: you need streamtuner08:50
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jackmacokcubun-newbie: and listen with beep-media-player08:51
grshprI get this: E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)08:51
grshprE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?08:51
BlueDevilgrshpr: are you?08:51
Exxcalibergrayman, are you root?08:51
Exxcaliber:P08:51
grshprWhen I try to install centericq.08:51
grshprsudo08:52
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grshprSame as root right?08:52
Exxcaliberyep08:52
Agrajaggrshpr: do you have anotherinstance of an apt program running?08:52
BlueDevilgrshpr: yes08:52
Agrajagsynaptic, or aptitude...08:52
grshprAgrajag: No.08:52
ubun-newbiei installed amarok08:52
ubun-newbiedoes it have radio station08:52
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BlueDevilgrshpr: lsof|grep /var/lib/dpkg/lock08:52
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jackmacokcubun-newbie: streamtuner08:52
grshprBlueDevil: Ok. :)08:52
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agtnzubun-newbie: click on playlists on the left hand side08:53
ubun-newbiewhat08:53
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BlueDevilgrshpr: with sudo08:53
ubun-newbiethere is no radio station on playlist08:53
grshprBlueDevil: Same error.08:54
ubun-newbieyes i see now08:54
M_Wettendorffanyone here that can help with the instalation of apache / PHP / mySQL???08:54
ubun-newbiei clicked up i should click on the left playlist08:54
jackmacokcM_Wettendorff, whats the issue08:54
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BlueDevilgrshpr: what same error? it should print the process that has that file open! no error!08:54
ubun-newbieit shows playlist now i double click nothing happens08:54
ubun-newbiei click radio streams08:55
M_Wettendorff i want to have the MySQl to run when i boot the server.08:55
grshprBlueDevil: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?08:55
agtnzubun-newbie: rightclick on radio streams if you want to add a new one08:55
BlueDevilgrshpr: did you run the command I told you to?!08:55
grshprBlueDevil: Yes, with sudo..08:56
M_Wettendorffand i cant chance the password for my root user on the MySQL08:56
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ubun-newbiei think i dont have audio voice08:56
BlueDevilgrshpr: what was the output?08:56
ubun-newbiehow do i install my audio08:56
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grshprBlueDevil: No output from that, just got to the command line again.08:56
jackmacokcubun-newbie, have you consulted the wiki?08:56
ubun-newbiewhat is that08:57
agtnz!sound08:57
uboturumour has it, sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary08:57
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BlueDevilgrshpr: ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/lock08:58
ubun-newbieaplay -l08:58
ubun-newbie**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****08:58
ubun-newbiecard 0: SI7012 [SiS SI7012] , device 0: Intel ICH [SiS SI7012] 08:58
ubun-newbie  Subdevices: 0/108:58
ubun-newbie  Subdevice #0: subdevice #008:58
grshprBlueDevil: Ok. :)08:58
ubun-newbiedo i have sound yer or no08:58
Jowijust installed streamtuner just to see what it was and it is really good. i'm impressed08:58
ubun-newbiehow u installed a streamtuner08:58
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Jowisudo apt-get install streamtuner08:59
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grshprBlueDevil: -rw-r-----  1 root root 0 2005-12-08 13:47 /var/lib/dpkg/lock08:59
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Jowistarted it, clicked on "shoutcast" and it automatically got 100 or so radiostations. doubleclicked on one and it started xmms and played the stream.08:59
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graymanExxcaliber, huh?08:59
graymanExxcaliber, what are you talking about?09:00
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Agrajagzenwhen:09:00
Exxcalibergrayman, sry, i meant to talk to grph, my autocompletion trigged me :)09:00
cigahi09:00
Agrajaghy09:00
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ubun-newbieok i installed streamtunde09:00
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graymanExxcaliber, ah09:00
BlueDevilgrshpr: and no program has that file open? hmm that's weird :-/09:00
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Agrajagsound slike something died without cleaning up after itself09:01
grshprBlueDevil: Not what I can think of. I have gAIM, XMMS and Mozilla running except the terminal.09:01
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cigaI try to compile 4.0.1-3 for woody, but it stops with an error: 'error: parse error before "TARGET32_MACHINE"'. Anyone knows what went wrong?09:02
ubun-newbie streamtuner09:02
ubun-newbieMessage: device: default09:02
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ubun-newbie** WARNING **: ctrl_write_packet(): Failed to send data: Brutet rr09:02
ubun-newbieMessage: device: default09:02
ubun-newbie** WARNING **: ctrl_write_packet(): Failed to send data: Brutet rr09:02
jhaaok09:03
ubun-newbiewhat is wrong with my streamtuner09:03
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d03boyzip is compatible with windowsxp right?09:03
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grshprBlueDevil: I do have a update-tray (red thing with arrows) that say taht I have some downloads I need. Could that interrupt?09:03
jackmacokci dont know why you're having all these problems...all these progs worked right away for me09:03
BlueDevilgrshpr: sudo fuser -v /var/lib/dpkg/lock09:03
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ubun-newbiewhat is wrong with my streamtuner09:04
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ubun-newbie when i click on radio station i get could not make a connection09:04
Jowiubun-newbie: try one of the shoutcast ones09:04
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ubun-newbie streamtuner09:05
ubun-newbieMessage: device: default09:05
ubun-newbie** WARNING **: ctrl_write_packet(): Failed to send data: Brutet rr09:05
ubun-newbiei click on shoutcast to listen09:05
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ubun-newbiei get could not connect09:05
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ubun-newbieand it shows this error09:05
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Jowino idea09:05
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orkinok guys, is there any particular reason ubuntu is going so degumifyingly slow on my Dell Dimension 2350 pentium 4?09:06
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orkinis it because I installed it on a 30gig hard drive?09:06
juanI need spanish channel. Please!!!!!09:06
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stjepanhi09:06
jackmacokcorkin, that shouldnt hurt it09:06
feugan3333Hi all. After installing nvidia drivers, xmms has a segmentation fault when I try to start it. Is this a know issue?09:06
orkinan ooold 30gig hard drive09:06
smo!es09:06
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.09:06
stjepanis it ok (no problem) with using only root partition and swap partition?09:06
juanok muchas gracias09:07
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navaronejuan #ubuntu-es09:07
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hedonickorkin: how can a 30 gig drive be ooooold??? 4 gigs starts getting close to oooold ;-)09:07
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orkinok09:07
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orkinso what do you think the source of this problem is?09:07
DGaugeI installed ubuntu on my desktop as the third OS Win98SE, RHL8, and Ub...but Ubuntu was supposed to install in the free space but it oddly messed up Win98SE and RHL8 :(09:07
FrdPrefctcfs-work: Try /etc/init.d/powernowd stop09:08
FrdPrefctorkin even09:08
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FrdPrefctsee if that helps any09:08
slushpupienavarone: nope09:08
navaroneouch09:08
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Nigelenkiany recommendations on rigging Rhythmbox up to an Icecast?09:08
FrdPrefctmight also wanna try apm instead of acpi09:08
chemaFPAXdm dont work, why?09:08
slushpupienavarone: Maxtor DiamondMax 7000 215Mb SCSI-2 3600rpm09:09
slushpupienavarone: works great, even after all these years09:09
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navaroneslushpupie, is that your main partition drive? Or only drive? what processor?09:09
ompaulDGauge, it only installs where you tell it to, I have never had it overwrite anything I gave it permission to write to09:09
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ompaulDGauge, it only installs where you tell it to, I have never had it overwrite anything I DID NOT give it permission to write to :-) (typo first time)09:10
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orkinapm? acpi?09:10
slushpupienavarone: the only drive in the system.  old 484 (dont recall which)09:10
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navaroneholy smoke09:10
cbearhey all, i've got a problem with vlc on my system09:10
slushpupienavarone: LFS, its more of a toy than anything.  But it routes packets :-)09:10
navaroneslushpupie, you running x?09:11
chemaFPASome gdm alternative more little than kdm?09:11
slushpupienavarone: ha!09:11
navaronelol09:11
d03boydoes anyone else realize that nautilus sucks?09:11
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Jowid03boy: yep. rox-filer rocks09:11
slushpupienavarone: I felt good about the fact I got ipsec to run on the damn thing09:11
challahhey all... im having a problem with my 2nd monitor... installing the nvidia drivers... ive read the wiki... i dunno why its not working...09:11
navaroneI wonder if android was a bot...<s>09:11
challahits a geforce fx 5200 agp09:11
challahthanks in advance09:11
ompauld03boy, it does the job it was asked to do, I am happy with it09:12
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Mabus06How do I make accents in linux?09:12
DGaugeompaul: I know I can't figure out what happened....it wrote to the free space but when I try to boot windows it won't load the norton antivirus saying it can't find the database and RHL reports that it can't find the keyboard, mouse, and then says filesystem is messed up...starts to repair it and locks up...but ubuntu works great :)09:12
DGaugejust doesn't seem to support my modem :(09:12
navaroneMabus06, Like zees mon frere09:12
Mabus06ALT+130 produces an accented e on windows, what are the linux equivalents?09:12
ubun-newbiehow do i install sound in ubuntu09:12
ubun-newbiethe sound drivers09:12
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ompaulDGauge, is it a win modem>09:12
cbearvlc froze when i was messing with the preferences and i couldn't fore quit out of it, so i logged out09:12
crimsunubun-newbie: they should work automatically.09:12
cbear*force09:12
Mabus06navarone, you didn't accent frere. How do you? :D09:12
ubun-newbiehow do i test if i have sound09:13
DGaugeompaul: yet but it works with linux kernel 2.4 or later09:13
ompaulubun-newbie, tell the channel what card you have09:13
cbearbut now when i start vlc again it just appears for a split second and disappears09:13
navaroneTry applications/character map09:13
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ubun-newbie aplay -l09:13
ubun-newbie**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****09:13
ubun-newbiecard 0: SI7012 [SiS SI7012] , device 0: Intel ICH [SiS SI7012] 09:13
ubun-newbie  Subdevices: 1/109:13
ubun-newbie  Subdevice #0: subdevice #009:13
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navaroneApp/Access/Character Map09:13
illustrein the live cd i tried gparted and after hitting apply  the new partition dissapeardand the other went back to its originalo size  it did not write, any idea why it would not write,  can iresize the ntfs with gparted09:13
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ompaulDGauge, two questions (A) what version of Ubuntu are you using (B) what model of card is it?09:14
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levandersomeone can tell me how the scripts in /etc/cron.daily get run?09:14
MagicFabhello - wondering how long will it take Firefox 1.5 to reach the repos ?09:14
navaroneillustre> you haev to amke sure partition you are trying to resize is not mounted. Is you windows partition auto mounted in fstab?09:15
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MagicFabI know I can install it manually, just rather use synaptic or apt-get09:15
navaroneillustre, if it is maybe that's why no effects on drive09:15
MagicFabusing breezy09:15
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illustrei dont think it is in the live cd09:15
crimsunubun-newbie: paste the output from amixer onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl09:15
Mabus06navarone, I don't see any french accents? I browsed all the "scripts"09:15
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navaroneillustre, just unmmount drive and try again09:15
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ubun-newbiei donno how to use amixer09:16
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illustremount does not show it mounted09:16
stappenhello there09:16
DGaugeompaul: how do I find the answers to those questions?09:16
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crimsunubun-newbie: open a Terminal and type: amixer09:17
stappencan i make synaptic secure with an passwd?09:17
crimsunubun-newbie: then paste all that output onto the Web site I told you09:17
stappenand  how do i do this?09:17
chrisx1Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0c45:602a Microdia Meade ETX-105EC Camera <- How Do i install it?09:17
illustremount is not mouted according to mtab !!!09:17
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stappeni am setting it up for an school, so needs to be protected09:17
navaroneMabus06, I don't ahve any either...probably have to download french characters/fonts and install09:17
stappenany tips?09:17
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AndyRlo all09:18
navaroneillustre09:18
BlueDevilillustre: paste the mount output to pastebin09:18
challahbrb i got clients here... yay!!!09:18
ubun-newbiehttp://pastebin.com/45446909:18
navaroneillustre, try running gparted from terminal with sudo...09:18
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navaroneyou may need root to make disk changes09:18
DGaugeubuntu doesn't have any asm included  or gcc command line tools :o09:18
ompaulDGauge, the model you have to look at it and write down various large chip numbers till you find it and the version run this command >>cat /etc/lsb-release<<09:19
ubun-newbieis something wrong with my sound09:19
ubun-newbiehttp://pastebin.com/45446909:19
crimsunDGauge: not by default, no. Install build-essential.09:19
_Norris_diferent either REGPARM and No REGPARM09:19
_Norris_?09:19
ompaulDGauge, not considered tools for your granny to use, one line command to install >>sudo apt-get install build-essential<<09:19
occy:(09:20
chrisx1Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0c45:602a Microdia Meade ETX-105EC Camera <- How Do i install it?09:20
occyman, this ticks me off.  Firefox dies all the time, and so does beep-media-player09:20
ubun-newbiewho can help me to fix my sound09:20
crimsunb-m-p is deprecated09:20
crimsunuse bmpx instead09:20
occyand every once in a while nautilus andd gnome will just hork09:20
occycrimsun, grrr09:20
BlueDevilubun-newbie: what's wrong with it?09:20
occycrimsun, I nukd all my prefs too09:20
occycrimsun, so that can't be it09:20
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occycrimsun, hey btw. :)09:21
DGaugeompaul I've been looking into OS development and need nasm and gcc/g++ but I hope bochs works on it :o09:21
Fujoordoes ubuntu have support for all wlan cards?09:21
ubun-newbiewhen i do streamtuner and i want to listen on shout cast i get all time could nto connect09:21
crimsunoccy: hi09:21
ubun-newbiestreamtuner09:21
ubun-newbieMessage: device: default09:21
ubun-newbie** WARNING **: ctrl_write_packet(): Failed to send data: Brutet rr09:21
crimsunFujoor: all? no. Many? yes.09:21
occycrimsun, it really sucks when I'm trying to get work done and stuff just keeps crashing on me for no reason. :(09:21
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DGaugeI have Ubuntu 5.04 Hoary Hedgehog Release09:21
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cbearhas anyone had similar problems with VLC?09:21
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Fujoorcrimsun: is there a list with which it supports?09:21
ompaulDGauge,  >>sudo apt-get install build-essential nasm<< then09:21
occycrimsun, I'm getting close to just nuking it and trying to use another distro till Dapper comes out.09:22
crimsunFujoor: look on the wiki.09:22
binarydigitubun-newbie: try googling the error message09:22
Fujoorcrimsun: i heard the ones that dont support it must be installed via something called ndiswrapper09:22
illustretried sudo no luck http://pastebin.com/45447109:22
str8edgeis anyone here having problems with beagle on dapper?09:22
ompaulDGauge,  you are presenting these things as problems, not opportunities09:22
ubun-newbiewtf09:22
crimsunoccy: you could also be insane and run Dapper like those of us who are insane.09:22
occycrimsun, hehe09:22
occycrimsun, true, it'd probably be no less stable than my setup now.09:22
occy*sigh*09:22
crimsunubun-newbie: is this the only card listed in /proc/asound/cards ?09:22
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ubun-newbiedonno09:23
ubun-newbiei am newbie09:23
occycrimsun, good to always see you :)09:23
crimsunoccy: ditto09:23
occywell... "see" you09:23
occy:)09:23
crimsunubun-newbie: cat /proc/asound/cards09:23
ubun-newbiei did google search google could not help me09:23
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ubun-newbie/proc/asound/cards09:23
ubun-newbie0 [SI7012         ] : ICH - SiS SI701209:23
ubun-newbie                     SiS SI7012 with ALC200,200P at 0xd800, irq 1809:23
ubun-newbie1 [UART           ] : MPU-401 UART - MPU-401 UART09:23
ubun-newbie                     MPU-401 UART at 0x330, irq 1009:23
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crimsunubun-newbie: are you using the analog speaker-out?09:24
crimsunubun-newbie: i.e., not the optical output09:24
orkinok, how do I find the modem license key on the website, the driver told me to go to the website to get the key with my modem registration09:24
ubun-newbieno idea it works fine on windows09:24
ubun-newbiebut in windows i download sound drivers09:24
ubun-newbieand i install soundrivers09:24
crimsunubun-newbie: but this isn't Windows, and you need to physically inspect the connection on the computer.09:24
orkinand it sped my system up a little bit but it isn't as fast as it was with windows09:24
proxosihwo do i install flash for firefox if im amd6409:25
ompaulubun-newbie, on a seperate note, when you have a large amount of data we ask that you paste it in http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl  as there are over 700 people here :-)09:25
ubun-newbieok what to do now09:25
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Amaranthproxosi: You don't, say thanks to macromedia.09:25
crimsunubun-newbie: stand up and actually look at the speaker connection on your computer09:25
MagicFabhello - wondering if I absolutely have to install backports repos / dapper or will Firefox 1.5 make it to the default repos in the next 5 months ?09:25
psusiflash sucks anyhow09:25
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xiaogilQue faire pour rsoudre le problme suivant aprs un make : /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10-686/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 11: gcc-3.4: command not found ?09:25
Jxpxhow can i conect to yahoo msn?09:25
ompaul!fr09:25
ubotuVa a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais09:25
crimsunMagicFab: it'll be backported when Ian finishes09:25
ubun-newbieyes it good09:25
ubun-newbiei did not changed it i have sound on windows09:26
xiaogilWhat to do to solve the following problem after a make : /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10-686/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 11: gcc-3.4: command not found ?09:26
ompaulxiaogil, however you can do this >>sudo apt-get install build-essential<<09:26
chrisx1Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0c45:602a Microdia Meade ETX-105EC Camera <- How Do i install it?09:26
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ubun-newbie gcc-3.4 u need gcc maybe09:26
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chromanyone tell me how to install stopsign?09:26
skiyhi ubuntuers09:26
orkinwhere do I find the modem installation key on the linuxant website09:26
xiaogilompaul: it's done already09:26
MagicFabcrimsun: I am not sure I understand backports - hints to docs ?09:27
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str8edgeany here using beagle?09:27
ubun-newbieso why i have no sound09:27
str8edge!backports09:27
illustrehow can i upgrade gparted to the latest version synaptic is showing 0.0.8 i would like 0.0.909:27
ubotuI heard backports is Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports09:27
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MagicFabtks09:27
DGaugeunder RHL I can see what /dev/hd has what type of filesystem on it.....does ubuntu have a program that tells that? for example, /dev/hda2    ext3     /      %of space used  etc09:27
ericzdf -h?09:28
ArkGullwinghmm09:28
occy:(09:28
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occyanother FF crash09:28
ompaulxiaogil, however you can install this also gcc-3.409:28
MagicFabcool - first paragraph of backports wiki is even specific to Firefox!09:28
skiychrom: what have you tried?09:28
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crimsunoccy: haven't had any here, but I don't use any extensions09:28
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ompaulxiaogil, did not read enough the first time :-/09:28
zandaadarnit <_<09:29
zandaaI got problems with my ubuntu setup09:29
chrisx1Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0c45:602a Microdia Meade ETX-105EC Camera <- How Do i install it?09:29
ArkGullwinghi hi, anyone here able to chat with a windows user about possible 'upgrade' to linux? Dont wanna bother the main host of the chat here, who prolly all know what they are doing more than myself, so PM me please?09:29
chromskiy well i just tryed to install it by clicking and opening it. not working09:29
crimsunubun-newbie: you haven't answered my question. How are the speakers physically connected to your computer?09:29
rambo3tryed sudo fdisk -l ?09:29
stjepanis it ok (no problem) with using only root partition and swap partition?09:29
occycrimsun, hmmm09:29
skiychrom: from what website?09:29
occycrimsun, I wonder... maybe it's the stupid web developer plugin09:29
ubun-newbie** WARNING **: ctrl_write_packet(): Failed to send data: Felaktig filidentifierare09:29
ubun-newbie** WARNING **: ctrl_write_packet(): Failed to send data: Felaktig filidentifiera09:29
chromfrom stopsign itself09:29
zandaawhat is the default password for root on a fresh ubuntu install?09:29
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occyubun-newbie, pastebin.ca please09:29
occyubun-newbie, oh,nm09:30
ubun-newbiei just checked now sound the master sound was closed i open it09:30
occyonly 2 lines09:30
navaroneArkGullwing, try live cd and decide from there would be my advice09:30
MagicFabstr8edge: thanks09:30
ubun-newbiebut still get problems09:30
skiyzandaa: there isn't one :)09:30
ompaulxiaogil, you may find this a useful command >> apt-cache search gcc-3.4 << and this one >>apt-cache policy gcc-3.4<< they will help you with things like that09:30
DGaugeI have two HDDs and df -h only shows one HDD :/09:30
skiyzandaa: you need to issue "sudo passwd" to set it09:30
ArkGullwinglive cd? is that like... a demo of sorts or something?09:30
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zandaaArkGullwing, it's a CD from which you load Ubuntu in memory09:30
ubun-newbiehttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/552009:30
skiyArkGullwing: allows you to use ubuntu without installing, so yes09:30
ubun-newbiewhen i click on shout cast each time i see this error on my terminla09:31
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ArkGullwingahh, spiffy =D ok thanks ^_^ i'll prolly be back in the not too distant =)09:31
navaroneArkGullwing, I live cd is one you boot up with and os runs from ram...no install...is slower but good way to see if most components will be recognized09:31
chromskiy : i just dled it from stopsign. com got it dled. but wont install09:31
ArkGullwingcool cool =) going to try it now ^_^ *poof*09:31
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rambo3try different kernels too09:32
xiaogilompaul: the result is better, thanks, but now i have the following error msg : make[2] : *** [/home/gilles/Desktop/usbvision/src/usbvision.o]  error 109:32
navaroneinteresting name09:32
ompaulDGauge, is it (A) what is showing paste.ubuntulinux.nl for the paste (B) showing up when you type fdisk -l [again paste] 09:32
navaroneWho puts Ark and a seabird appendage together for nick...<s>09:32
ompaulxiaogil, can't take you any further with that I am afraid, but ask again in a little while09:33
ardchoilleHow do I disable Bluetooth services? I don't have any Bluetooth devices and keeping the service running seems like a waste.09:33
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TeddCan anybody help me/09:33
TeddI need help getting my speakers back.09:33
ompaulxiaogil, given no one else answered you eariler09:33
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skiychrom: anti virus?09:33
crimsunubun-newbie: please, please, please check the actual physical connection of the speakers to the computer09:33
TeddThey were working when I was using Ubuntu before, but now they don't work at all.09:33
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chromyea its a anti virus scan program09:33
skiyTedd: you're sound has stopped working?09:33
Teddskiy: Yessum.09:33
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TeddAny ideas?09:33
navaroneardchoille, I beleive bluetooth in linux is what allows serial devices to work...controls the bus I think09:33
crimsunubun-newbie: without knowing whether you're using optical out, I can't really help you effectively09:34
xiaogilompaul: thanks, actually the next error is : /home/gilles/Desktop/usbvision/src/usbvision.c:3134: error: storage size of 'tun_addr' isn't known09:34
skiyTedd: What does lspci say about sound?09:34
ubun-newbiei use normal pc sound output09:34
ubun-newbiethe cables are fine09:34
Teddlspci? I'm sorry. I have no idea what you mean.09:34
skiyPaste the line about the Mulitmedia Audio Controller09:34
ardchoillenavarone: hmm.. I didn't have Bluetooth services running in my previous distro.09:34
crimsunubun-newbie: what types of cables?09:34
rambo3Tedd new kernel?09:34
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ubun-newbieblack normal pc cables09:34
skiyTedd: Type "sudo lspci"09:34
zandaadarnit...09:34
crimsunubun-newbie: "normal pc sound output" is NOT descriptive enough.09:34
ardchoillenavarone: ok, if that is the case, I'll leave it running09:34
zandaacan't access the root account on my fresh setup09:35
ubun-newbiethere is no root u use sudo09:35
rambo3!tell zandaa about sudo09:35
skiyTedd: and look for a line that looks like "0000:00:05.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce MultiMedia audio [Via VT82C686B]  (rev a2)"09:35
zandaaok...09:35
navaroneardchoille, I was wondering about bluetooth myself..I thought I'm not on wireless or anything. But apparently from what I read it maybe how serial devices are used or something like that...I'm not a techy09:35
zandaaand it doesn't support my LAN09:36
Teddskiy, I have Multimidia Audio Controller, but it's not Nvidia.09:36
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zandaaat least I can't connect through cable09:36
ardchoillenavarone: ok, I'm not a techie either, so I'll leave it alone for now. Thanks09:36
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navaroneardchoille, np09:36
Teddskiy: It's Intel Corporation.09:36
skiychrom: what is it?09:36
chromskiy: yes its an anti-virus. owner of this comp thinks its full of viruses even ater 8 complete re installs of ubuntu09:36
skiydoh, Tedd what is it?09:36
skiyOK09:36
crimsunubun-newbie: sigh, fine, I'll just assume you're using analog speakers. In that case, mute 'IEC958'09:36
Teddskiy: Intel.09:36
TeddI'll just pastebin it for you to see if you'd prefer.09:37
skiychrom: you don't get viruses on ubuntu, and even if you did, how is a windows based virus checker going to help?09:37
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skiyTedd: yes09:37
ubun-newbiewhat is the command to do that09:37
skiyI suspect you are lacking the snd-intel8x0 module09:37
chromthats what i told him.09:37
Teddskiy: I'll paste the whole output.09:37
zandaawell, I can't login as root, that's clear to me now09:37
skiychrom: lo11erZ09:37
chromis there a virus cheakers anyways for ubuntu. to keep him calmed down09:37
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rambo3you dont need to09:38
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ardchoillezandaa: there is no need to log in as root09:38
ubun-newbieSegmenteringsfel09:38
ubun-newbieDu har troligtvis hittat ett fel i XMMS. Var vnlig09:38
ubun-newbieoch g till http://bugs.xmms.org och fyll i en09:38
ubun-newbiefelanmlan.09:38
crimsunubun-newbie: use any mixer to unmute it. For instance, the volume control09:38
dieffelhello! How can i get my ATI 9200 All-in-Wonder video-adaptor to display TV in Ubuntu?09:38
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navaronechrom you can install aegis virus scanner thru synaptic09:38
flottomoin09:38
zandaaardchoille, yes there is... I can't access my HD09:38
ubun-newbiei get now error xmms09:38
skiyyes, I would suggest using "apt-cache search virus"09:38
chromcan you give me the url? or how to do that>09:38
stappenhow do i install the flashplugin?09:38
Teddskiy: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/45450109:38
flottois anyone able to speak german?09:38
navaronechrom are you on ubuntu now?09:38
chromyea09:38
x_orCan someone help me understand why network routing is not broken with ubuntu.  I've configured a wireless card for DHCP and cannot seem to select the eth1 device as the gateway device.  This means I don't have a default route.  I cannot add it either:  sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.1 returns "SIOCADDRT: Network is down"09:39
KnowerrorsHow do I check user/group privaleges, and what should they be?  I think I screwed em up by enabling root account09:39
ubun-newbiei open amarok and i am playing drumms09:39
x_orsudo /etc/init.d/networking restart does not fix this either.09:39
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ubun-newbiei hear the drumms playing09:39
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ubun-newbiecan something be wrong with xmms09:39
crimsunubun-newbie: change xmms to use alsa, not oss09:39
lsuactiafnerErr http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Sources09:39
lsuactiafner  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)09:39
lsuactiafnerwhats up with that09:39
crimsunubun-newbie: it's in the preferences.09:39
skiyubun-newbie: wont it start?09:39
lsuactiafnerbeen like that for a week about09:39
navaronechrom>go to sysem/adminis/synaptic...put in user password and go to edit /search type aegis...when search is done select package and apply09:40
crimsunTedd: I need the output from ''amixer''09:40
skiychrom: or go to a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install aegis"09:40
ubun-newbiethe xmms wont start now09:40
ubun-newbiecan i remove and install a new one09:40
zandaaUbuntu doesn't want to cooperate....09:40
ardchoillezandaa: is that on the same box you're using to IRC now?09:40
crimsunubun-newbie: pkill xmms, then restart it, and change the output plugin preference to use ALSA not OSS09:40
navaronechrom>I think package is called aegis-virus-scanner for apt-get09:40
zandaa@ardchoille yes.09:40
TeddCrimsun: Just amixer in terminal/09:40
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AngryParsleyoh, is there an amd64 build of firefox 1.5 for linux?09:41
ardchoillezandaa: if you couldn't access the hd, your user account wouldn't work09:41
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rambo3crimsun you are thinking of alsamixer09:41
AngryParsleyI know ff1.5 isn't in the repositories yet, but I'd like to install it myself09:41
crimsunrambo3: no, I'm thinking of amixer.09:41
zandaaardchoille, my user account works... but not my HD (it says owner: root, group: root)09:41
crimsunTedd: yes09:41
Teddcrimsun, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/454507 is amixer's output09:41
skiyAngryParsley: You can just use the 32 bit one?09:41
AngryParsleyskiy: no, it crashes09:42
crimsunTedd: does muting 'External Amplifier' resolve it?09:42
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skiyAngryParsley: Any errors?, or a crashlog?09:42
AngryParsleyskiy: I'm using the x86-64 version of ubuntu09:42
TeddHow would I do that?09:42
ardchoillezandaa: "my user account works... but not my HD"  <-- think about that for a minute09:42
chrisx1Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0c45:602a Microdia Meade ETX-105EC Camera <- How Do i install it?09:42
AngryParsleyskiy: yeah, tons of errors about libraries09:42
TeddI'm sorry, crimsun, I'm not too good with this.09:42
AngryParsleyskiy: the 64 bit version of 1.07 runs just fine09:43
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ubun-newbiewhere is that on xmms i dont see alsa09:43
crimsunTedd: amixer sset 'External Amplifier' off09:43
crimsunubun-newbie: Options> Preferences> Plugins09:43
zandaaadchoille, what's there to think about???09:43
crimsunubun-newbie: then under Output09:43
skiyAngryParsley: well SuSE have one09:43
skiyAngryParsley: a 64 bit mozilla09:43
skiyso perhaps you can use alien on that?09:43
ubun-newbiei have it in swedish09:43
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psusiI'm running amd64 dapper which has firefox 1.5... but some days things break09:44
AngryParsleyskiy: I guess I could, but I was just looking for firefox, not mozilla09:44
Teddcrimsun: No change09:44
jordo23Is there a Ubuntu package for Azareus?  I am trying to install it, and it is listed in the Debian stable packages list, but when I apt for it I get that it is not found.09:44
poimenI tried installing the em64t kernel with smp and It returned with errors what should I do install the amd64 operon smp kernel?09:44
skiyAngryParsley: that's what I meant09:44
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AngryParsleyoh09:44
skiypoimen: what errors?09:45
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navaronepoimen> install appropriate kernel for your system arch09:45
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crimsunTedd: ok, just to make sure, did you dist-upgrade to Breezy from Hoary?09:45
TeddNo, went to Breezy from Windows. :D09:45
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Tedd(Best thing I ever did imo)09:45
AngryParsleyhah09:45
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skiyTedd: hooray! :)09:45
hkaishi09:45
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ubun-newbiesame sh*09:46
ubun-newbiei changed to alsa09:46
skiyhkais: hia!09:46
crimsunTedd: ok, then you need to unmute 'External Amplifier', then toggle the 'Exchange Front/Surround' element09:46
hkaisanyone here who knows how to configure vncserver to run with my X?09:46
psusihkais: there's a howto on the forums09:46
Fujitsuhkai, hi!09:46
proxosiAmaranth: you there?09:46
navaroneTedd> same here...tho I kept windows fro Halo...<s> and a few others progs...but am considering reducing its partition more...lol09:46
zandaaardchoille, what should I do about my HD then to fix it?09:46
chromokay i dled aegis. where is it so i can run it for him?09:47
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proxosifujitsu: hey...09:47
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navaronechrom...terminal...type aegis-virus-scanner -auto09:47
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crimsunubun-newbie: does xmms work with alsa now?09:47
ubun-newbienope09:48
ubun-newbiesame error09:48
The_Isle_of_Markanyone here have a savage video chip?09:48
ubun-newbiexmms not working09:48
chrisx1Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0c45:602a Microdia Meade ETX-105EC Camera <- How Do i install it?09:48
ubun-newbiebut that program amarok works09:48
navaronechrom...or just aegis-virus-scanner should get you gui09:48
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proxosido anyone know the steps to make my firefox flash compatible if im using amd64?09:49
Teddcrimsun, I was toggling External Amp in ALSA Mixer, and toggling exchange front/surround but still nothing09:49
The_Isle_of_Markanyone here have a savage video chip?09:49
BlueDevilubun-newbie: check if some other program has /dev/dsp locked09:49
crimsunubun-newbie: what's the error? Use paste.ubuntulinux.nl09:49
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TeddCrimsun: Do I have to unmute External Amp with terminal? If so how?09:49
an_drewI'm partitioning my harddrive for a dual boot. Just curios if the placement of the shared fat32 partition is important. i.e. at the end of the drive or between OS's etc.09:49
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cbearubun newbie, did you make sure that xmms knows to play using alsa?09:49
crimsunTedd: your 'Center' and 'LFE' are both muted, though09:50
hkaispsusi: do you know there? I need it under kde09:50
chrisx1Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0c45:602a Microdia Meade ETX-105EC Camera <- How Do i install it?09:50
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ubun-newbiei fsck xmms  i dont want to use xmms, amarok works fine how can i add radio stations there09:50
ubun-newbiein amarok09:50
erikstiHi.. I'm doing this howto: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623        ...   on the 7th step or something I am suppose to type "make" in "ieee80211-1.0.3", but it finds "/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build/include/config/ieee80211", and even if I answer yes to remove it, nothing happens.  I have done this many times and nothing happens. Scared of screwing the whole thing up like I've done before I'd like some advise09:50
Teddcrimsun, I really have no idea what that means.09:50
BlueDevilchrisx1: do you have mplayer installed?09:50
crimsunTedd: it means you need to unmute them.09:51
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ubun-newbiehow can i add shout cast from stream tuner to amarok09:51
cbearsome players requre you to choose your output, like oss or alsa, etc, this may be the problem09:51
chrisx1BlueDevil, yes09:51
ubun-newbiesame problem cbear09:51
The_Isle_of_Markanyone here have a savage video chip?09:51
Teddcrimsun: Just did it. STill nothing09:51
BlueDevilchrisx1: mplayer tv:// -tv driver=v4l09:51
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intelikeyeriksti running 'make' as user it wont have permission to remove anything in /lib   you can try sudo'ing it.09:52
KnowerrorsI know youre not supposed to, but I enabled root for a while and think that has caused problems, how do I go about fixing permissions back how they should be?09:52
angelobjr quelqun conait un bon site de chat09:52
Thorondordoes anyone know how to set firefox as the default browser? system -> preferred apps -> browser doesn't work, somehow.09:52
an_drewI'm partitioning my harddrive for a dual boot. Just curios if the placement of the shared fat32 partition is important. i.e. at the end of the drive or between OS's etc.09:52
ubun-newbielissen, when i start streamingtuner , i click shout cast then i add a station then xmms starts to play it, how can i make that amarok plays that streamin09:52
crimsunTedd: then unmute 'External Amplifier'09:52
TeddFrom ALSA?09:52
Amaranthproxosi: Yeah.09:52
erikstiintelikey: same thing happens with "sudo make"09:52
TeddCrimsun: Done09:52
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rambo3an_drew it doesnt matter09:52
TeddStill nothin'.09:53
navaronean_drew, doesn't matter...but good idea including fat32 to share09:53
intelikeyKnowerrors ?   "enabled root"  and  "permissions"  are not related09:53
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proxosiamaranth: so how do i get firefox to compatible with flash.. if im amd64?09:53
BlueDevilan_drew: it matters only if you have an old bios which can't boot anything past 1024 cyl09:53
Amaranthproxosi: You don't.09:53
erikstiintelikey: I also ran the previous steps with "sudo sh remove-old"09:53
ubun-newbielissen, when i start streamingtuner , i click shout cast then i add a station then xmms starts to play it, how can i make that amarok plays that streamin?09:53
proxosiamaranth: so its impoosible?09:53
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_nullAre there any debs for xserver-xgl on breezy?09:53
BlueDevilproxosi: install a 32bit chroot09:53
an_drewthanks everyone09:53
chrisx1BlueDevil, Whats That Meant To Do?09:53
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Knowerrorsintelikey: well, some things are broken with my systemsettings accesss, and don't know how to fix it...09:53
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illustreconfigure is giving me this error cnofigure error c compliler cannot create executables09:53
Dominus-After what seemed like a year..09:54
crimsunTedd: please use the speaker-test utility09:54
emurzwhat's going on with firefox 1.5?09:54
BlueDevilchrisx1: play whatever the camera is showing09:54
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Teddcrimsun, : I'm messing with the preferences. I figure I'll get it sooner or later.09:54
chrisx1it failed09:54
chrisx1!pastebin09:54
ubotuI guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com09:54
intelikeyeriksti have you tried hiding the old,  i.e.  sudo mv /lib/<blah> .<blah>    and then run make09:54
BlueDevilchrisx1: paste there09:54
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crimsunTedd: use the speaker-test utility to test your speakers09:54
chrisx1BlueDevil, i Am09:54
zandaaardchoille, it appears my HD has been chmodded to 50009:54
zandaaand I added myself to the root-group09:54
erikstiintelikey: I'll try it ..09:54
crimsunTedd: that will help narrow down which mixer element(s) you need to (un)mute09:55
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poimensomeone here running a pentium D with smp enabled?09:55
bob832anyone here familiar with audacity errors?09:55
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Amaranthproxosi: It's possible is you know how to do multiarch things.09:55
neighborleehas anyone else noticed the scroll balls in gnome menus ?09:55
proxosibluedevil: chroot? (me noob) i tried to follow a site .. that guide me to isntall firefox 32 and install flash .. and it supposed to work.. but when opening it.. it close by itself09:55
Amaranthproxosi: But I'll see you in a day or so when your firefox compile finishes.09:55
intelikeyKnowerrors what kind of things are "broke"  :)09:56
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cafuegoa day? Have they made gcc run faster?09:56
BlueDevilAmaranth: no need to compile firefox09:56
proxosicompiling programs take that long??09:56
soundrayWhat's the reverse of the CHAR function in OpenOffice Calc (converting a character to an ascii code)?09:56
BlueDevilproxosi: look at ubuntu forums, there's a tutorial there09:56
AmaranthBlueDevil: If you know how to do it please help.09:56
Thorondornormally not09:56
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Thorondorbut big programs take some time...09:57
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cafuegoproxosi: Depends on the programs and your machine specs09:57
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Knowerrorsintelikey (this is kde btw, asking in #kubuntu also), in system settings, I can't change options for storage media, and also for gtk looknfeel09:57
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Teddcrimsun: I'm doing that, it's just playing static and giving me output in terminal09:57
BlueDevilproxosi: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90106&highlight=32+bit+flash+chroot09:57
MillenniumgroupHi.. how do I change my resolution? Currently only got 3 res, 1024x768,800x600 and 640x340, linux recognises my card as an ATI Radeon 9500 but how do I change the resolution? I've edited the xorg.conf to "1280x1024" but nothing happens and I still can't pick another resolution, any ideas?09:57
BlueDevilproxosi: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575&highlight=32+bit+flash+chroot09:57
soundrayHow do you compare strings in OpenOffice calc? "IF" doesn't seem to accept anything other than a numeric comparison.09:58
ubun-newbiei think i miss some files amarok files they play fine when i add a radio station it does not work what file i miss09:58
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soundrayMillenniumgroup, have you restarted X?09:58
intelikeyKnowerrors try 'sudo chown <username>:<username> $HOME -R '    where <username> means you of course.09:58
IRCathiya,  can anyone help with sound problems?09:58
Teddcrimsun: I'm doing that, it's just playing static and giving me output in terminal09:58
ubun-newbiehelllooooooooo09:59
TeddShit. Err. crimsun, should I pastebin the results?09:59
navaroneKnowerrors>take a look at Config editor in apps menu...sry not familiar with kde or it's menus09:59
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Millenniumgroupsoundray yup..09:59
proxosibluedevil: i tried yesterday... and follow all the steps.. but it doesnt work.. when opening it.. it loads.. and close09:59
ubun-newbiewhat files do i need to download to be able to listen to radio09:59
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chrisx1BlueDevil, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/552109:59
Jowiubun-newbie: did you install mp3 support yet?09:59
ubun-newbienope whats the name for that file09:59
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ubun-newbiestreamtuner i installed that one10:00
soundrayMillenniumgroup, perhaps run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg instead of editing xorg.conf directly.10:00
zandaa@Jowi, is mp3 support standardly installed when installing from a CD?10:00
intelikeybose accustic wave....  oh nm.10:00
IRCatI've got a Compaq Deskpro PIII.   Don't know what sound card.10:00
BlueDevilproxosi: how did you run it?10:00
Jowizandaa: no10:00
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Knowerrorsintelikey: wow, that command is really cranking the cpu10:00
soundrayMillenniumgroup, if all else fails, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for any hints why 1280 won't work.10:00
ubun-newbiewhich files do i need to download for mp3 support10:00
Jowiubun-newbie: as we were discussing, oh about 2 hours ago, most radio stations stream mp3. you need that10:01
Jowi!mp310:01
ubotump3 is, like, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats10:01
Jowifollow those instructions10:01
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proxosibluedevil: by accessing through gui?10:01
ubun-newbiesudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins10:01
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ubun-newbiei installed that shi*10:01
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ubun-newbie3 hours ago10:01
BlueDevilproxosi: what does that mean?10:01
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Knowerrorsintelikey: didn't fix it though10:02
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Jowiubun-newbie: for xmms you need xmms-mad10:02
proxosiemm10:02
soundrayHow to get a number from a string in an OOo spreadsheet? (The reverse of char() )10:02
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zandaaah, I get it now... the sudo command gives me temporary root access for the procedure I want to execute10:02
ubun-newbiei dont want to use xmms10:02
proxosii wen to the directory where i unpacked10:02
BlueDevilchrisx1: hmm, i took a look but it seems an ioctl call fails :(10:02
TeddCan anyone help me get all 4 of my speakers working now10:02
Jowiubun-newbie: for gsteamer you need gstreamer0.8-mad10:02
proxosiand i opened from there10:02
TeddI've tried enabling Surround, Surround Jack and all that10:02
TeddBut nothin' works.10:02
polkhow do I remove packages in ubuntu?10:02
intelikeyKnowerrors sounds like kde/kdeapp error then.10:02
chrisx1BlueDevil, What Do i Need To Do10:03
BlueDevilproxosi: which tutorial did you follow?10:03
intelikeyKnowerrors any error message ?10:03
Jowiubun-newbie: well, streamtuner uses xmms for playing radio so you need that10:03
proxosihttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90106&highlight=32+bit+flash+chroot] 10:03
ubun-newbiei removed xmms now i did isntall xmms-mad is this enough and i will install gstrea08-mad10:03
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intelikeypolk 'sudo apt-get remove <blah> '10:03
Jowiubun-newbie: if you want to use streamtuner you need xmms as well10:04
polkthank you intelikey10:04
intelikeypolk ' aptitude  or  synaptic ' also10:04
Knowerrorsintelikey: nope10:04
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Jowiubun-newbie: sudo apt-get install xmms xmms-mad gstreamer0.8-mad10:04
BlueDevilchrisx1: dunno10:05
BlueDevilproxosi: did you run /usr/local/bin/firefox32 ?10:05
intelikeyKnowerrors if you can find the name of the app start it from a term and see what all it spews out10:05
challahhey all can someone help me get my monitor workin... having hard time installing drivers...10:05
chrisx1BlueDevil, :( k anyhoo i brb then see if rebootin helps i aint rebooted yet i just plugged it in10:05
ubun-newbiedone...10:05
Jowichallah: what monitor and which graphic card?10:05
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intelikeykonsole even10:05
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ubun-newbiestile same shit same error it can not connect to shoutcast10:05
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Jowiubun-newbie: that is strange. works fine for me on first try10:05
challahjowi: it would end up bein my main monitor... nvidia geforce fx 5200...10:06
ubun-newbiei hear voice on amarok10:06
ubun-newbieit plays sounds on amarok10:06
proxosibluedevil: no i didnt.10:06
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BlueDevilhow many fps do you guys get with glxgears ?10:06
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Knowerrorsintelikey: I get SIGSEGV error sometimes while fooling with storage media settings10:06
proxosibluedevi: im supposed to?10:06
Jowiubun-newbie: i've never used amarok so i can not help you with that10:06
zandaaJowi, do you know how to chmod a HD?10:06
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ubun-newbieok10:06
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BlueDevilproxosi: then you didn't follow the tutorial correctly10:06
Jowichallah: have you read the nvidia wiki?10:07
Jowizandaa: what do you mean?10:07
zandaajowi, I can't access my HD even-though I'm system administrator10:07
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intelikeyKnowerrors i gota go.   if you are still having trubble with it when i get back i'll try to help,  maybe someone can fix it for you   :)10:07
challahjowi: yes... i have installed the drivers10:07
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Jowizandaa: what type of HDD and what filesystem?10:07
BlueDevilproxosi: from now on do everything a tutorial tells you to10:07
Millenniumgroupsoundray, doesn't work :(10:08
proxosiok10:08
Jowichallah: and did you do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?10:08
zandaajowi, it's a 160gb S-ATA HDD, the partition it is mounted to is a linux partition10:08
Millenniumgroupsoundray, it doesn't work :( resolution is still the same 1024x76810:08
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challahjowi: yeah10:08
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proxosibluedevil: for step 2.. i can extract it anywhere right?10:08
challahjowi: and then i reboot and cant rollback10:08
Jowizandaa: sorry, never set up a sata drive in linux :-/10:08
Thorondorhow do i set my standard brower to firefox instead of konquerer?10:08
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soundrayMillenniumgroup, any hints in /var/log/Xorg.0.log concerning the 1280 resolution?10:08
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: what's the problem?10:08
challahjowi: cause im an idiot...10:08
zandaaThoronder, it should already be10:08
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Jowichallah: probably not. you missed something. where do you go wrong?10:09
Thorondorwell, after installing KDE it's not anymore.10:09
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BlueDevilproxosi: in a subdirectory under your home dir is fine10:09
zandaaThorondor, ah so that's why... I don't know then10:09
Millenniumgroupguys im quite new to linux , bluedevil my screen reso won't change after fiddling with xorg+xserver (always 1024.x768) let me check soundray10:09
DGaugeompaul: you still here?10:09
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JowiThorondor: ask in #kubuntu :)10:10
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: how are you trying to change the resolution?10:10
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Roeyhey all10:10
MiSS_n00bHi people, I'm having problems with my video drivers is there some way I can uninstall them so I can reinstall?10:10
Thorondorjowi: i10:10
Roeylisten10:10
Thorondorjowi: i'm in gnome right now10:10
challahjowi: i think it could have been when i asked to get those packets... for some reason on the repository box it wouldnt remember that i checked everything in bb/su/u10:10
tonyyarussoWhat apt line do I need to be able to get opera?10:10
Millenniumgroupbluedevil, when I installed ubuntu for the first time (xserver) when it didn't change my res, I tried to gedit the xorg.conf10:10
RoeyI got fed up with Ubuntu, but I learned something new (namely, sudo).  Thanks for being so strict about it in here! :)10:10
soundrayI'm trying to find out whether a field in an OOo spreadsheet matches a particular character. if(A1='M';1;0) doesn't work.10:10
polkMiSS_n00b, what video drivers and what are  the problems?10:10
JowiThorondor: in gnome you can change default browser in the session config10:10
BlueDevilMiSS_n00b: what video drivers?10:10
Millenniumgroupreading xorg.log now, guys is there any way I could post my xorg.0.log, some place so you could see it?10:11
soundrayAny spreadsheet wizard here?10:11
MiSS_n00bnvidia drivers, i stuffed up somewhere and the open gl isnt working10:11
BlueDevil!pastebin10:11
ubotu[pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com10:11
soundrayMillenniumgroup, pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl10:11
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challahjowi: but i still ended up with the propper packets10:12
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Millenniumgroupsoundray/bluedevil could you guyst plz check my config ? http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/552210:12
feugan3333MiSS_n00b: you could just remove the package (nvidia-glx) using synaptic10:12
challahjowi: ima try again ill start from the beginning... thanks10:12
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: run "xdpyinfo |grep -A 100 'number of extensions'|grep -B 100 'default screen'" without the quotes and paste the output10:12
Jowichallah: check that you installed: nvidia-settings and nvidia-glx10:12
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tonyyarussosoundray: Not a wizard, but there's some chance I could help you.  Tell us what the topic is.10:12
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zandaadarn the fricking HD10:12
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Jowichallah you also need the restricted-modules for either 386 or 686 depending of which kernel you have chosen10:13
soundrayMillenniumgroup, your X thinks that your monitor isn't capable.10:13
DGaugeompaul: here is the result (had to take care of something first) -> http://pastebin.com/45456810:13
challahyeah10:13
challahjowi: yeah that was the difference between the 2 wikis10:13
soundraytonyyarusso,  I'm trying to find out whether a field in an OOo spreadsheet matches a particular character. if(A1='M';1;0) doesn't work.10:13
challahjowi: was just typin that10:13
Jowichallah: then "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"10:13
xukunSeveas, thanks for that tip. that one about smartmontools. I foud out that I have to backup and replace my harddisk very soon10:13
navaronequestion: I have added in the last 4 months extra hdd, a sb live soundcard to replace onboard and a ethernet/network card. Will this put too much strain on a 300w ps?10:13
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soundraytonyyarusso, any way to compare strings in Calc?10:13
tonyyarussosoundray: As in writing a formula to check whether it does?10:13
soundraytonyyarusso, yes.10:13
polkMiSS_n00b, install and uninstall them from a terminal not while running X control-ALT-F1 to switch, then reboot10:14
hkaisnoone here with a kde and vncserver und dubuntu?10:14
zandaanavarone, I don't think it would be10:14
trebuchethey guys what repository do I need to get ncurses-devel? and how do i make apt-get not try and upgrade everything?10:14
tonyyarussosoundray: Let me take a look...10:14
Roeychallah:  great nick10:14
soundraytonyyarusso, or the reverse of char(65)='A' -- function('A')=65 ??10:14
MillenniumgroupBlueDevil, hmm clv is giving me an error about command doesn't exsist etc etc, maybe im typing it wrong? Soundray, ok.. how do I change that?10:14
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MiSS_n00bdo i uninstall nvidia-kernal-common as well?10:14
navaronezandaa, I didn't think so...ps is not seeming to be overworked or overheated...but fans are noisy and prob need a replacement then10:15
challahroey: thanks10:15
ompaulDGauge, you never showed what came out of df -h10:15
soundrayMillenniumgroup, when you go through dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, choose 'Advanced' for monitor selection.10:15
challahroey: it started out as holler, cause everyone here yells holla!!!! like a bunch of idiots10:15
Millenniumgroupsoundray, already done that10:15
zandaanavarone, fans can lower in noise with a drop of oil in the bearing10:15
dooglustrebuchet: it's in main, and it's called libncurses5-dev10:15
challahroey: and i worked in bakeries soooo10:15
MillenniumgroupI don't have my monitor manual either :/10:15
DGaugeI forgot to do that :o10:15
soundrayMillenniumgroup, did you copy your hsync and vertical refresh from the monitor manual?10:15
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navaronezanda...did that...used electric razor oil...very thin mineral type oil...could not find sewing machine oil...shaem eh? lol10:16
Millenniumgroupsoundray, I've lost my manual :( so I just used the default values10:16
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Millenniumgroupdefault values the program presented me10:16
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tonyyarussosoundray: Check the section in the Help for the MATCH function, and see if that does what you want.  It seems to find a string anywhere in an array, and might suit your purposes if you specify that array to be just one cell.10:16
soundrayMillenniumgroup, that won't work. Search the web for your monitor specs using the exact model name.10:16
trebuchetdooglus, ah thanks.. wasn't showing up in dselect10:16
soundraytonyyarusso, great, thank you, I'll go reading.10:16
dooglustrebuchet: I found it with: "apt-cache search ncurses-dev"10:17
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Millenniumgroupsoundray, sorry again bud.. but is there a comand that will show me my full monitor model name?10:17
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Millenniumgroupso I can google it?10:17
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: what clv?10:17
Millenniumgroupclv?10:17
navaronezandaa...so far they are just noisy...no idea which one or all. Don't think it is cpu heatsink fan...have not had any crashing...tho some graphical glitches on changing from enlightenment to gnome session...10:17
Roeychallah:  you like challah?10:17
tonyyarussoMcAffee doesn't run on Linux to anyone's knowledge, does it?  (No, I don't want to; I'm looking into a University's network security policy.)10:17
Roeychallah:  it's interesting isn't it?10:17
Roeychallah:  sorta sweet for a rbead.10:18
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: try to use         HorizSync       30-81 and VertRefresh     56-7510:18
Roeybread.10:18
FrdPrefcttonyyarusso: Try f-secure or clamav10:18
challahroey: i make french toast with challah bread10:18
tonyyarussos/McAffee/McAfee/10:18
Roeychallah:  hahaha10:18
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trebuchetdooglus, last time I used debian, dselect was the way to go.. has it fallen out of favour? i'm a gentoo user, just making a custom kernel for a friend's laptop10:18
zandaanavarone, is there a lot of dust on your fans/hardware??? (better remove that)10:18
ompaultonyyarusso, ehh no, but then are they expecting a windows box - that might be all they set up for10:18
ubun-newbiedo i need any codec to play radio stations on amarok10:18
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: [23:14]  <Millenniumgroup> BlueDevil, hmm clv is giving me an error10:18
challahroey: i used to make it every sunday morning and the guy in the deli next to us would make eggs and bacon and stuff10:18
Roeychallah:  they have a challah for pesach right?10:18
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Roeyah10:18
str8edgeroey: nope10:18
dooglustrebuchet: I don't know.  I've never used dselect, and not really heard it mentioned here much at all either.10:19
ompaultonyyarusso, start off with the well if I wanted to use a mac you would be causeing me issues and work to a GNU/Linux box :-)10:19
ubun-newbiedo i need any codec to play radio stations on amarok10:19
Roeystr8edge:  what10:19
str8edgechallah is levened.. on pesach levened bread is not allowed10:19
navaronezandaa...I ahve had air blown thru chassis...removed and wiped fan blades when oiling...and vacuumed. Wiped drives off as well...fans bearing are just wearing out10:19
Roeystr8edge:  you can make challah out of matzah meal no??10:19
challahroey: well i never personally saw any of it get "blessed" i dunno what it would be10:19
tonyyarussoompaul: They are requiring that all student computers have it installed in order to be allowed to connect to the university network.10:19
Roeystr8edge:  we bypass every restrictino like that ;)10:19
Roey*restriction10:19
zandaanavarone, that does sound like it's needing a replacement, fans aren't that expensive though10:19
ompaultonyyarusso, install it - you don't have to run it :-)10:19
challahroey: is that what were talkin about... not familiar with the holiday10:19
str8edgeroey: i have never made it out of matzah-meal10:20
trebuchetnavarone, once a fan has started to go noisy, its too late to save it. oil will just quieten it for a little while until you can replace it10:20
Roeychallah:  challah is only blessed when greeteing the Shabat10:20
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dooglustrebuchet: people usually suggest using the GUI "synaptic" or the command line "apt-get" or perhaps "aptitude" or "debfoster".10:20
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tonyyarussoompaul: I almost wonder whether that is even legal, or if some part of anti-trust law might apply...10:20
navaronezandaa...yeah...will takea  look at weekend10:20
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Roeychallah:  aaah gotcha10:20
str8edgeRoey: thats when we have it.10:20
Roeystr8edge:  well yeah10:20
trebuchetdooglus, ok thanks for the hints :)10:20
navaronetrebuchet, yup10:20
DGaugeompaul: here is the other one -> http://pastebin.com/45456810:20
Roeystr8edge:  I don't though10:20
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ubun-newbiedo i need any codec to play radio stations on amarok10:20
Roeystr8edge:  (vegan here)10:20
vr_hey all, i'm not getting any sound in rhythmbox (mp3s) but I can play them fine with xmms. what am i missing ?10:20
tonyyarussoompaul: They have a bot running on the network that supposedly checks for compliance, and boots anyone out of it.10:20
Roeystr8edge:  it stinks to have to eat matzah or something while everyone else eats real bread.10:21
ompaultonyyarusso, I suggest you talk to the admins10:21
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challahroey... i was working as like a bakers assistant/pastry chef...10:21
str8edgeroey: was vegan, then vegetarin, now I eat small amounts of meet10:21
str8edgemeat10:21
tonyyarussoompaul: Although I have no idea what that bot would even do if it encountered a Linux box.  Probably have a minor stroke and collapse for a few hours.10:21
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Funzocan anyone tell me if ubuntu for the mac supports the airport 802.11b card?10:21
tonyyarussoompaul: That's the next step.10:21
zandaaanyone know how to change the permissions on a HD through the terminal???10:21
ubun-newbiedo i need any codec to play radio stations on amarok10:21
soundrayMillenniumgroup, just look at the FCC sticker :)10:21
psusimeat good... arrrrr10:21
Roeystr8edge:  ah10:22
tonyyarussozandaa: Check /etc/fstab for its mounting options.10:22
Roeystr8edge:  I can't do it morally.10:22
challahroey: it would get made or baked where i worked and get shipped out in wholesale or to like a country club or banquet hall if it was like pastries or a cake...10:22
navaronetrebuchet> computer is on hardwood lamiante as well...no cushioning to diffuse vibrations and such10:22
psusizandaa: what do you mean? 'on a HD'?10:22
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zandaapsusi, just to change the permissions like who can read/write stuff on it10:22
Roeychallah:  challah in a non-Jewish setting? I didn't know they had those10:22
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ompaulDGauge, you did not do what I last asked >>>>>DGauge, you never showed what came out of df -h <<<<<10:23
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str8edgeroey: my wife is somewhat intollerant to soy.. and we want to avoid giving my daughter a soy allergy.10:23
ledhHey PPL!10:23
Roeystr8edge:  got it10:23
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psusizandaa: every file in the filesystem has its own set of permissions... you can set it by looking at the file properties in nautilus, or chmod from the command line10:23
DGaugethe link I just put is what came out of df -h10:23
MillenniumgroupBlueDevil.. I altered the values as you suggested, and it did change my resolution to something else other then 1280x1024, something lower and weird10:23
Roeystr8edge:  I'm gonna have a helluva time finding a wife10:23
Roeyarg10:23
tonyyarussoI could have sworn Opera was in either the Ubuntu or Debian repos, now where'd it go?10:23
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Millenniumgroupyou got another value I could try?10:24
FarrisGI'm having problems with evms. I get segfaults when I try to expand a container. This doesn't happen on my debian box, just on my ubuntu box. Any ideas?10:24
ledhI've installed OpenOffice2... but the 1.1 version is still installed... how do i uninstall it?10:24
ompaultonyyarusso, however be aware they may want you to jump through some technical hoops to allow you on the network10:24
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BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: paste the new Xorg.0.log10:24
tonyyarussozandaa: What file system?10:24
MillenniumgroupI now got 1 extra resolution to pick 834x62410:24
Millenniumgroupk10:24
DGaugedf -h output this -> http://pastebin.com/45458710:24
Millenniumgroupwhat was the command again to view it?10:24
vr_hey all, i'm not getting any sound in rhythmbox (mp3s) but I can play them fine with xmms. what am i missing ?10:24
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: what monitor? CRT/TFT?10:24
tonyyarussoompaul: Hoops are fine, as long as they can be gotten through, right?10:24
MillenniumgroupCRT10:24
ledhI've installed OpenOffice2... but the 1.1 version is still installed... how do i uninstall it?10:24
ledh:(10:25
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MillenniumgroupBlueDevil, what's the command again to view my config file?10:25
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str8edgeRoey: try living in an area where there are 3 jewish girl in your age range..10:25
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BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: try HorizSync30-9610:25
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: and VertRefresh50-16010:26
Roeystr8edge:  dude, rockville/bethesda is at the heart of it all.10:26
soundrayBlueDevil, Millenniumgroup, guessing is dangerous...10:26
ubun-newbiehow do i isntall realplayer10:26
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Roeystr8edge:  i have a Chabad in my back yard in Gaithersburg MD10:26
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Roeychallah:  hey again10:26
soundrayBlueDevil, Millenniumgroup, if your CRT is reasonably recent, it'll warn you though if you go out of spec.10:26
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BlueDevilsoundray: any better idea?10:26
DuffyX56To anyone who can help me with gParted, I was messing with it and I made a new disklabel and now my whole second harddrive is gray and all my other stuff like the swap and the linux partition is gone....should I continue making another partition and will my stuff come back or am I screwed?10:26
str8edgeChabad?10:26
ompaultonyyarusso, I would tend to agree, if they can't be gotten through then it is a matter of playing the correct politics, and that does not mean that you fire off some random missile, it means you take three days to think about an answer then you write it, then you wait a day10:27
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soundrayBlueDevil, Millenniumgroup, use the "Medium" option for monitor selection in reconfigure?10:27
ledhI've installed OpenOffice2... but the 1.1 version is still installed... how do i uninstall it?10:27
confreyhi everybody10:27
ompaultonyyarusso, the you read it again and check if it is a good arguement.10:27
BlueDevilDuffyX56: did you write the changes to disk?10:27
psusiledh: remove the packages in synaptic10:27
ubun-newbiehow do i isntall realplayer10:27
DuffyX56no, i just left it gray...what should I do?10:27
Millenniumgroupok, I haven't changed my config yet, should I try medium in xserver?10:27
tonyyarussoompaul: Of course.10:27
psusiDuffyX56: then cancel the changes10:28
topyliledh: search for openoffice in synaptic. remove all the packages that don't say they're openoffice.org210:28
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ompaulDGauge, okay so your running from the first drive, what is on the second one? rh?10:28
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ledhi'm a newby at this OS10:28
confreyI have a wifi usb, when I attach it I see the prism2_usb module is loaded; but I can't use it; what's missing?10:28
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ledhsorry10:28
ubun-newbiehow do i isntall realplayer10:28
guerbybonsoir, y-a-t'il un moyen d'installer d'un coups les package utiles aux developpers (make, gcc, libc6-dev, ...) sur une ubuntu 5.04 en ligne de commande ?10:28
DuffyX56psusi: how do I partition then, and how do i cancel it?10:28
topyliledh: don't be sorry, hack on! :)10:28
Millenniumgroupubun-newbie go here http://ubuntuguide.org/10:28
Millenniumgroupand search for "realplayer"10:29
DGaugeyeah I put RHs swap and boot stuff there and put the / on the first one10:29
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zool2005good evening10:29
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ompaultonyyarusso, mind if I pm u?10:29
DuffyX56it all changed to unallocated, it that supposed to happen?10:29
tonyyarussoompaul: Go ahead.10:29
guerbyoops wrong language forum :)10:30
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BlueDevilDuffyX56: if that was the state when you ran gparted, yes10:30
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zool2005could anyone tell me how to change the resolution of my screen please? I only selected 800x600, 1274x986 when I installed and cannot see any other options now10:31
DuffyX56it wasn't, I was messing around with it and I went to Device>Set disc label and my second hd went gray and unallocated...is that how you partition then click New and make another partition?10:31
DGaugeompaul: forget about my problem I am just going to reformat my HDDs and install Windows on it again and leave it at that...easier solution than trying to find the / for RHL10:31
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ledhall the green squares are the packs installed... right?10:32
confreyzool2005, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and choose all modes you want10:32
zool2005cheers10:32
DuffyX56o.o10:32
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: did that work?10:32
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ledhhow do i change my font color here? hahaha!!10:33
soundraytonyyarusso, thank you for your hint -- I found a way to get what I want using MATCH()10:33
tonyyarussosoundray: Perfect.10:33
DuffyX56soo, to partition do I set a disclabel and add a new partition and will it go back to the regular menu?? Please Help.10:34
ardchoillesoundray: be careful when playing with mathes ;)10:34
soundrayMillenniumgroup, how are you getting on? Tried Medium?10:34
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Millenniumgrouptrying it now guys10:34
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soundrayardchoille, yes, thanks, burnt my fingers more than once... :)10:35
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confreyI have a wifi usb, when I attach it I see the prism2_usb module is loaded; but I can't use it; what's missing?10:35
ardchoillesoundray: lol10:36
BlueDevilconfrey: did you configure it?10:36
chrisx1rebooting NOW10:36
Millenniumgroupwhats the command again to view my xserver?10:36
DuffyX56o.o10:36
MillenniumgroupI mean run it?10:36
confreyBlueDevil, no; I don't know how10:36
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chrisx1startx10:36
soundrayMillenniumgroup, X10:36
ledh=(10:36
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: to view what?10:37
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: the logs?10:37
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ledhall the green squares are the packs installed on synaptic?... right?10:37
Millenniumgroupsoundray, I mean to run it dpkg something?10:37
BlueDevilledh: yes10:37
ledhn_n10:37
soundrayMillenniumgroup, 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'10:37
MitjaIs there a function that tells you bytes per sector of a .img or .iso?10:37
BlueDevilMitja: usually 51210:38
confreyBlueDevil, can you suggest me how to configure it?10:38
BlueDevilconfrey: ifconfig10:38
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soundrayMillenniumgroup, how old is that CRT of yours?10:38
soundraythere he goes...10:39
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tonyyarussoFound the apt line for opera if anyone cares.10:39
borSWAT: hi and sorry, I hadn't got much time and I don't have it now but I'll investigate on it on weekend.  if it's urgent for you, just ask here again if someone other knows how to solve the filesize limit in mkisofs.10:39
confreyBlueDevil, I havn't the device wlan010:39
illustrewell clearly not able to resize with the live-cd so i will need to try the paprtitioning with the regular cd instalation10:39
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MWettendorffanyone here good with MySQL???10:40
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soundrayMWettendorff, I've made some baby steps...10:40
skeldanyone use ntop?  I cant find a conf file10:40
soundrayMWettendorff, what is it?10:40
agk__is er ook iemand uit nederland10:41
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soundray!nl10:41
ubotuOp #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.10:41
challahok i have a question before i restart my computer10:41
challahabout my nvidia drivers i just installed10:41
MWettendorffSoundray: how do i see if the server is running??10:41
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soundrayMWettendorff, 'ps aux | grep mysql' ?10:42
MWettendorffsoundray: and how do i make sure that it starts when ever i start the pC?10:42
ledhi'm having errors with the backdoor's ports when i update my OS... is somthing wrong? how do i repair that? =(10:42
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soundrayMWettendorff, having a file called /etc/init.d/mysql normally should make sure that it starts automatically.10:43
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jazzKahellO!10:43
MillenniumgroupI tried medium - 1280x1024 60@ still the same resolution :(10:43
BlueDevilMWettendorff: man update-rc.d10:43
jazzKawhich are the default services running on a new Ubuntu installation?10:43
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soundrayMWettendorff, from the ps command you should get at least one line that contains /usr/bin/mysqld_safe10:44
jazzKaI need to know, but I have added and removed several services, so...10:44
lsuactiafnerjazzKa : ps auxww | grep -b bash10:44
lsuactiafnerjazzKa : ps auxww | grep -v bash10:44
ledhi'm having errors with the backdoor's ports when i update my OS... is somthing wrong? how do i repair that? =(10:44
MWettendorffps command??10:44
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BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: did you try the hsync and vrefresh values i gave you?10:44
soundrayMWettendorff, 'ps aux | grep mysql'10:44
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MillenniumgroupBlueDevil, hmm no.. if it can damage my monitor, im scared..?10:45
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MWettendorffmorten    2513  0.0  0.3   3456   800 pts/0    S+   22:45   0:00 grep mysql10:45
soundrayMillenniumgroup, how old is your monitor?10:45
zandaaanyone familiar with chmod?10:45
jazzKacan someone with the a new ubuntu installation tell which are the network running services?10:45
MWettendorffi get that when i run that10:45
Millenniumgroupsoundray.. hmm like 2000 I think10:45
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soundrayMWettendorff, it's not running then. Did you install the Ubuntu mysql packages?10:46
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: if your monitor doesn't support the refresh rates it should enter standby mode10:46
soundrayMillenniumgroup, what size?10:46
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MWettendorffyea i did..10:46
Millenniumgroup17"10:46
ledhi'm having errors with the backdoor's ports when i update my OS... is somthing wrong? how do i repair that? =(10:46
eXistenZerm10:46
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BlueDevilledh: what kind of errors?10:47
eXistenZis firefox 1.5 up for ubuntu yet?10:47
crimsunno.10:47
BlueDevileXistenZ: it's not backported10:47
soundrayMWettendorff, including mysql-server ?10:47
eXistenZWE NEED IT10:47
BlueDevileXistenZ: prolly never will10:47
Gambit---http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/ubuntu.jpg someone wanna explain this joke to me? :)10:47
ledhhmmm... like... couldn't get the files.... no update...10:47
eXistenZBlueDevil, why? :/10:47
ledhlet me paste them here10:47
ledhn_n10:47
Millenniumgroup17" that's my monitor size10:47
Jowiledh: the backports you mean? for breezy?10:47
ledhnop10:47
MWettendorffsudo apt-get install mysql-server10:47
MWettendorff$ sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-auth-mysql10:47
MWettendorff$ sudo apt-get install php4-mysql10:47
ledhHoary10:47
eXistenZGambit---, nasty10:47
Jowioh10:48
MWettendorffthat is what i have been running10:48
MillenniumgroupBlueDevil..ok what was the info you gave me far, the synch one?10:48
BlueDevileXistenZ: it would require lots of packages to be retested/recompliled/backported10:48
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MWettendorffinsted of PHP4 i have installed php510:48
derrick81787milleniumgroup: my 17" monitor runs a 1280X1024 resolution10:48
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ViKiTohi10:48
Gambit---eXistenZ, well the rest of them I get, just wondering wtf's with that :)10:48
jazzKawhich IDS do you recommend for a domestic user just a bit paranoic on security?10:48
eXistenZGambit---, imagine if my boss would see this pic, I'd be fired immediately.10:48
logan77666anybody knows how to disable thumbnails in nautilus for html files only ?10:48
Millenniumgroupyeah on windows I run 1280x1024 as well10:48
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BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: why didn't you save it the first time I gave it to you?10:48
ViKiTocould anybody tell me how to install java10:49
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JowiMillenniumgroup: is it LCD or CRT?10:49
soundrayMillenniumgroup, are you sure you want to torture your eyes with that resolution on 17"?10:49
MillenniumgroupCRT10:49
mrkojejazzKa... might try tripwire10:49
Gambit-eXistenZ, wacky, sucks to be you.  Take a look at the rest of them, though, that's the only one that's mildly nws10:49
JowiMillenniumgroup: what brand and model?10:49
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Millenniumgroupsoundray, yeah Im sure... BlueDevil sorry bud.. I dunno why10:49
ViKiTocould anybody tell me how to install java10:49
mrkojejazzKa... ive never used it but I heard its good10:49
MillenniumgroupJowi I don't know, I've lost my manual10:49
soundrayMWettendorff, enter 'sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start' and see if it runs after that with the ps command.10:49
jazzKamrkoje, thanks!10:49
JowiMillenniumgroup: look at the backside of the monitor. should be a silvery sticker there10:50
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derrick81787milleniumgroup: i would try installing the nvidia drivers and then just adjust my monitor to center the picture or do autoadjust if you have one of those on your monitor10:50
popey!tell ViKiTo about java10:50
ViKiToplease10:50
soundrayderrick81787, he can't get the res he wants.10:50
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BlueDevilderrick81787: he has an ATI board10:51
mrkojesomebody got a problem with ubuntu and widescreen monitor?10:51
derrick81787oic10:51
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MWettendorffroot      2614  0.6  0.5   4172  1400 pts/0    S    22:50   0:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/mysqld_safe10:51
MWettendorffroot      2650  0.0  0.5   4172  1412 pts/0    S    22:50   0:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/mysqld_safe10:51
MWettendorffmysql     2651  2.3  5.4 116344 13548 pts/0    Sl   22:50   0:00 /usr/sbin/mysqld --basedir=/usr --datadir=/var/lib/mysql --user=mysql --pid-file=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid --skip-locking --port=3306 --socket=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock10:51
MWettendorffroot      2652  0.0  0.2   3196   572 pts/0    S    22:50   0:00 logger -p daemon.err -t mysqld_safe -i -t mysqld10:51
MWettendorffmorten    2697  0.0  0.3   3280   752 pts/0    R+   22:51   0:00 grep mysql10:51
MWettendorffi think it is10:51
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Jowiwow,  MWettendorff use pastebin will ya!10:51
soundrayMWettendorff, don't do this please!10:51
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BlueDevilgeez...10:51
ViKiTo!tell ViKito amsn10:51
soundrayMWettendorff, your mysql server is running now, and it will when you next boot your machine.10:51
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Jowi!pastebin10:52
ledhwhat's the difference btwn apt-get and aptitude?10:52
ubotupastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com10:52
thegladiatorhi10:52
MWettendorffthx..10:52
thegladiatori am gonna install ubuntu now10:52
ViKiTo!tell ViKiTo amsn10:52
Jowiledh: different front-ends for apt10:52
thegladiatoris the installation easy ?10:52
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MWettendorffcan you then tell me how to chance the root pass?10:52
eXistenZHow can you guys break into FBI computers?10:52
eXistenZI WANT TO BREAK INTO FBI10:52
eXistenZc'mmon :D10:52
BlueDevilledh: apt-get is command line aptitude is curses based10:52
Necrocidelogin as root, passwd?10:52
thegladiatori need to just put the installation cd ?10:52
ledhJowi: lost you there10:52
JowieXistenZ: do you know Telnet? ;)10:52
thegladiatorand boot ?10:52
Currioswhere is the xorg.conf in unbuntu?10:52
mrkojeeXistenZ: If you have to ask... your not smart enough10:52
eXistenZJowi, maybe ssh :p10:53
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soundrayeXistenZ, okay, let's do this step by step...10:53
mrkojelol10:53
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eXistenZI guess it's a matter of pass and user10:53
eXistenZrofl10:53
BlueDevilCurrios: /etc/X11/xorg.com10:53
JowieXistenZ: you NEED telnet. and at least two monitors with xinerama. all hackers know that10:53
thegladiatorsomeone wanna clarify ?10:53
BlueDevilCurrios: s/com/sonf/10:53
thegladiatorcan i install by booting from install cd ?10:53
BlueDevildamn it!10:53
eXistenZJowi, LCD?10:53
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mrkojeJowi: telnet? Do you live in the 80's10:53
JowieXistenZ: bigger the better. 28" tv-screens work as well10:53
ledhtake a look at this Jowi / BlueDevil...10:54
ledhFailed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found10:54
ledhFailed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found10:54
ledhFailed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found10:54
ledhFailed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found10:54
MWettendorffnec: the Mysql root pass10:54
soundrayMWettendorff, don't use root in Ubuntu, it's not necessary. If you absolutely have to, set a password with sudo passwd.10:54
ledhReading package lists... Done10:54
thegladiatorcan someone clarify ?10:54
ledhW: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net_dists_hoary-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)10:54
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ledhW: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net_dists_hoary-backports_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)10:54
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ledhW: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net_dists_hoary-backports_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)10:54
eXistenZJowi, I'll spy on bush talking on the msn :] 10:54
CurriosBlueDevil, thx10:54
ledhW: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net_dists_hoary-backports_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)10:54
BlueDevilSTOP!10:54
mrkojeJowi:  I haven't heard of anyone using telnet for a long time... except for special occasions.10:54
ledhW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems10:54
Jowimrkoje: you NEED telnet to hack FBI. wow, talk about newbie ;)10:54
ledhE: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.10:54
Millenniumgrouphere's my monitor (reading the silver labor behind my screen)10:54
MillenniumgroupE5178110:54
Jowilol10:54
thegladiatorhawking, hi10:54
JowiMillenniumgroup: hang on, will check it out10:54
soundrayMillenniumgroup, don't put it here, put it in Google.10:54
BlueDevilledh: don't paste here10:55
ledhsoooooooooooorry... :(10:55
ubun-newbiehi when i accept a file with xchat10:55
hawkinghi thegladiator10:55
ubun-newbiewhere does the file go10:55
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thegladiatorhow do i install ubuntu :)10:55
mrkojeJowi: Since you so know so much about hacking the FbI, go ahead and tell us exactly why we would need telnet....10:55
eXistenZI doubt any of you know how to hack a win32 puter :] 10:55
BlueDevilledh: where did you get those repos from?10:55
thegladiatorhawking, its me anandrulez10:55
hawkingthegladiator r u anand? :)10:55
ledhsudo apt-get update10:55
hawking:)10:55
thegladiatorhawking, exactly :)10:55
timani hey question.switched to xchat-gnome, i type in a trigger to initiate a chat and no window appears jus switched over the old xchat and didnt have a problem b4 is there something i need to configure? anyone?10:55
illustreis there a way to retireve text from the chat session that already scrolled out of the window10:55
trappistubun-newbie: wherever you've configured it to go.  I think the default is your home directory.10:55
Millenniumgroupgoogle isn't giving me any good results :/10:55
thegladiatori am gonna install straightway10:56
cvti hope bill gates chokes on a dollar bill10:56
Agrajagmrkoje: because every fbicpmuter runs telnet, of course! the root password is "bushsucks"10:56
Jowimrkoje: if you have to ask, man you really need to read telnet for newbies10:56
thegladiatori need to boot from install cd ?10:56
trappistillustre: scroll up?10:56
thegladiatorright ?10:56
trappistillustre: logs?10:56
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illustrealready scrolled up10:56
NecrocideIs Firefox made stable yet?10:56
Necrocide1.510:56
JowiMillenniumgroup: that was not a monitor # you gave. see if you can find another number10:56
thegladiatorfirefox latest is out10:56
illustrei guess logs from like an hour or so10:56
thegladiatorit 1.710:56
mrkojeI know what telnet is, I think your a little krass to think that "every" fbi computer has telnet open10:57
BlueDevilNecrocide: yes10:57
hawkingthegladiator : so you can get your questions answered here also on www.ubuntuforums.org I am also around10:57
hawkingdoes anyone know if there is a DC client for Linux?10:57
Agrajagmrkoje: I think your sarcasmometer is broken10:57
MWettendorffthegladiator: it is 1.510:57
thegladiatoryep thanks10:57
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: what brand is it?10:57
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MillenniumgroupEclipse10:57
Jowimrkoje: ok, how about yahoo-chat? most fbi-agents *must* use that, right?10:57
BlueDevilhawking: dcgui10:57
thegladiator1.0.7 is the latest FIREFOX10:57
cvtwill the i386 cd work on an amd 64?10:57
eXistenZmrkoje, oh you know what telnet is?10:57
AgrajagJowi: how else would they trade secret information?10:57
mrkojeAgrajag: My sarcawhat?10:57
mrkojelol10:57
Agrajagcvt: yes10:57
JowiAgrajag: exactly what i though10:57
cvtty10:58
BlueDevilthegladiator: don't give false info10:58
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morzelhawking: valknut10:58
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illustretrappist, did u understandf my q?10:58
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MWettendorffthegladiator: Wrong.. try look it up first..10:58
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trappistillustre: I think so.  you should check your logs.10:58
illustrehow can i do that10:58
mrkojeJowi: What are you getting at? So you will try to expose a vulnerability in Yahoo chat?10:58
Millenniumgroupjowi, that's the rigth number alright, do a google search and you'll see the same number on driver support forums10:58
thegladiatorMWettendorff, hi there 1.5 is newer than 1.0.7 ?10:58
Agrajagahahahhahah10:58
hawkingmorzel : thx10:58
ledhWhat are the basic requierements to install Ubuntu?10:59
thegladiatori downloaded 1.0.7 yesterday iam on fc4 now10:59
BlueDevilLOL10:59
trappistillustre: if your irc client logs, and it probably does, find those logs and open them in a text editor or something.10:59
ubun-newbie sudo dpkg -i  realplayer_10.0.6.776-20050916_i386.deb10:59
ubun-newbieVljer tidigare ej valt paket realplayer.10:59
ubun-newbie(Lser databasen ... 69300 filer och kataloger installerade.)10:59
ubun-newbiePackar upp realplayer (frn realplayer_10.0.6.776-20050916_i386.deb) ...10:59
ubun-newbiedpkg: beroendeproblem frhindrar konfigurering av realplayer:10:59
ubun-newbie realplayer beror p libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.4-1), men:10:59
ubun-newbie  Paket libstdc++5 r ej installerat.10:59
ubun-newbiedpkg: fel vid hantering av realplayer (--install):10:59
korhalfPASTEBIN.COM!10:59
ubun-newbie beroendeproblem - lmnar okonfigurerad10:59
korhalfgod forbid.10:59
ubun-newbieFel uppstod vid hantering:10:59
Agrajagthegladiator: http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/10:59
ubun-newbie realplayer10:59
Millenniumgroupubun-newbie again there's A SWEDISH CHANNEL10:59
BlueDevilthis is retarded10:59
mrkojeWhat the hell is wrong with this channel today?10:59
korhalfubun-newbie, #ubuntu-de10:59
ledh:$10:59
thegladiatorperhaps i am wrong10:59
Millenniumgroup#ubuntu.se10:59
mrkojeHave to start punting some people10:59
ledhx_x10:59
ubun-newbiewhat10:59
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MWettendorffTheGladiator: yes it is.. notice that there is a 0 in 1.0.7 and there aint any in 1.511:00
Millenniumgroupthere is a swedish channel on freenode #ubuntu.se11:00
ubun-newbiehow do i install  libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.4-1)11:00
ledhI guess no one knows about the errors i said... right? o.O11:00
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: he is there too11:00
david_m_equick (i hope) question)... i just installed Ubuntu about a week ago, and noticed during the install that there appeared to be a c/c++ dev system included... however, the only thing i can find along those lines is Perl... is ansi c/c++ supported by Perl, i.e, the Perl language is a superset of c/c++?11:00
Millenniumgroupoh lol11:00
thegladiatoryep so 1.5 is next to 1.0.7 ?11:00
limaunionhi, I'm trying to mount a second harddisk (ext2) but whenever I to write a file it says that I don't have the rights, what do i have to do ?11:00
Deterministthis might seem a bit weird of a question, but isnt there some sort of defragmentation software available for linux?11:00
soundrayMillenniumgroup, did you say you use Windows with your monitor?11:00
Agrajagdavid_m_e: sudo apt-get install build-essential11:00
Agrajagthat will get you gcc11:00
timaniahhhhh so any xchat-gnome people11:00
ubun-newbiehow do i install  libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.4-1)11:00
thegladiatordavid > perl is based on c u can say11:00
BlueDevilDeterminist: it doesn't need it11:01
Millenniumgroupsoundray, no I've used 1280x1024 on my windows xp install 2 weeks ago , I only got ubuntu on my hdd now11:01
thegladiatornot sure about superset , yes superset in many ways11:01
Agrajagthegladiator: seriously, just stop11:01
thegladiatorbut u cant cmopile ur c code using perl so get gcc for that11:01
trappistdavid_m_e: perl is just a scripting language.  what are you looking for?  a compiler?11:01
ubun-newbiehow do i install  libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.4-1)11:01
Jowiledh: haven't used the hoary backports in a while. maybe the backports are down.11:01
mrkojeJowi: Where did ya go? I want to know about your inflated abilities to hack fbi computers!11:01
DeterministBlueDevil, i cant imagine ext3 being that much better than the equivalent windows FS ... there has to be fragmentation11:01
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soundrayMillenniumgroup, do you remember what refresh rate you had there?11:01
Kodeyou don't really need defragmentation for ext, as it uses a more efficient way of handling your partition11:01
mrkojelame11:01
david_m_eok; thanks Agrajag, gladiator; next question: if i want to develop apps that run on unix/windows/mac, can Perl do that? is it a good choice for that?11:01
Jowimrkoje: sorry, did some research.11:02
omeghttp://omega.avalanchestudios.net/personal/dropbox/ubuntu_problem_1.jpg <-- the problem I was talking about earlier (garbage shows up at the bottom of the screen)11:02
Agrajagubun-newbie: sudo apt-get install libstdc++511:02
thegladiatorvery much  good choice11:02
ledhJowi: i have no idea about those errors... I'm new at this OS, that's why i'm asking for help... what should I do about them?...11:02
ubun-newbiesudo apt-get install libstdc++511:02
ubun-newbieLser paketlistor... Frdig11:02
ubun-newbieBygger beroendetrd... Frdig11:02
ubun-newbieDu kan mjligen rtta detta genom att kra "apt-get -f install":11:02
ubun-newbieFljande paket har beroenden som inte kan tillfredsstllas:11:02
BlueDevilDeterminist: i dont like people with little imagination11:02
ubun-newbie  libstdc++5: Beror: gcc-3.3-base (>= 1:3.3.6-8ubuntu1) men det kommer inte att installeras11:02
JowiMillenniumgroup: is that all the info you can find on the back?11:02
ubun-newbieE: Otillfredsstllda beroenden. Frsk med "apt-get -f install" utan paket (eller ange en lsning).11:02
Agrajagdavid_m_e: you can install a perl interpreter on windows or mac os, yes11:02
Agrajagubun-newbie: STOP THAT11:02
Jowiubun-newbie: use pastebin please11:02
ardchoilleThis is one of the reasons I love gnome: http://img120.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1id.jpg11:02
Agrajagjeez11:02
thegladiatorperl is a nice language ; depends upon the applicatio u wanna develeop11:02
Jowi!tell ubun-newbie about pastebin11:02
BlueDevilubun-newbie: for f**k's sake STOP!!11:02
Millenniumgroupsoundray, sorry I can't remmeber :/11:02
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DeterministBlueDevil, i dont like people who give silly irrelevant answers11:03
Agrajagpersonally, I don't use perl for anything longer than 100 lines11:03
illustretrappist, i dont think xchat logs11:03
BlueDevilDeterminist: then we're even11:03
DeterministBlueDevil, perhaps11:03
ardchoilleillustre: sure it does11:03
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MillenniumgroupJowi, let me check again11:03
ledh-.-U11:03
Jowiledh: do you need any packages from the backports that you know of?11:03
trappistillustre: it does.11:03
Roeyubun-newbie:  what language is this, nynorsk? danish? icelandic??11:03
ledhJowi: beats me! x_x11:03
JowiRoey: swedish11:03
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RoeyJowi:  dah, ok :) off by one :)11:03
Roeythanks11:03
illustretrappist, mm i dont see the setting for it11:03
ledhJowi: don't even know what they're for! o.11:03
david_m_ei work with a lot of special kids, and i need to be able to develop graphics-intensive apps that run on -ix/win/mac11:04
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Agrajagdavid_m_e: graphics-intensive?11:04
thegladiatori have fc4 in my system ;11:04
Jowiledh: so you probably dont. "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" comment out the lines with the backports. save and run "sudo apt-get update"11:04
thegladiatoris it possible that i install ubuntu in fc4 partition ?11:04
ardchoilleillustre: Settings-> Prefs, Chatting->Logging11:04
david_m_eautisitic kids love graphics and music11:04
Agrajagok, so 3d stuff, 2d, or what?11:04
ardchoilleillustre: top option11:04
ledhJowi: thanks! n_n11:04
Millenniumgroupj0wi, hmm no that's all, I mean sure there's a lot more info, but the number I gave you is my model number11:04
soundrayDeterminist, if you don't believe that ext2 and ext3 avoid fragmentation, just read the source.11:04
david_m_e3d11:05
Agrajagyou might want to check out python for that kind of thing11:05
Jowiledh: to comment out something put a # in front of the line11:05
FushiWhats the package name to apt-get so that I can install things that need a compiler?11:05
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thegladiatoror better still during gui installation can i parition my fc4 partition and install ubuntu ?11:05
soundrayFushi, apt-get install build-essential ?11:05
Agrajagthere's probably opengl libraries for python, I haven't used anything like that though11:05
LoPMXis there a skype package for ubuntu?11:05
david_m_ei think i noticed Python also included w/ Ubuntu... did i see that correctly?11:05
FushiThanks! :D11:05
Agrajagdavid_m_e: yeah, it should be installed already11:05
BlueDevilLoPMX: yes11:05
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ledhJowi: oh... thought i had to erase it... xDDD11:05
illustretrappist, thanks it was not e3nabled i just enabled it11:05
JowiMillenniumgroup: usually, if you only have a partnumber you're good to go. there are always monitor specs for CRT monitors somewhere on the web.11:05
thegladiatorpython , perl exists , gcc doesnt i guess11:05
Agrajagpython is a pretty easy language to learn, it was my first real programming language11:06
Jowiledh: nevermind. you haven't made any fatal mistake11:06
LoPMXBlueDevil, hmm, can't see in apt11:06
BlueDevilubotu tell LoPMX about repos11:06
Millenniumgroupjowi, you want the full serial number?11:06
JowiMillenniumgroup: nope, serialnumbers doesn't help much. only part or model number11:06
ledhJowi: can i chat in pvt for a sec... i need to paste it so you can tell me if i did it right11:07
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lightbrighthey hey11:07
MillenniumgroupWell my friend... the one I gave is the model name :/11:07
soundrayMillenniumgroup, Jowi, there aren't any specs on the web for this one, I've checked...11:07
Jowisoundray: ouch, ok ok11:07
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Jowiledh: sure11:07
david_m_ethank you; there are a lot ostensibly nice, pretty fun graphics progs for Win on the net, but so many of them are either sneaky-ad-ware(Bonzi buddy) or so poorly behaved they make kids feel terrible, like it's his/her fault the computer crashed; so i am going to develop their favorites, such as a free nemo-like screen saver11:07
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: want to give those settings a try?11:07
Deterministsoundray, when was the last time you read "the source" of anything just to be sure of it's features?11:08
Millenniumgroupah what the hell, sure11:08
Millenniumgrouprun by it again plz11:08
Deterministsoundray, not trying to be annoying here, just wondering11:08
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: copy them this time11:08
Millenniumgroupyup11:08
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Agrajagdavid_m_e: if you want free flashy screensavers, try http://www.reallyslick.com/11:08
BlueDevilDeterminist: for someone who's not trying, you sure do succeed :)11:08
Agrajagall of those are included in ubuntu11:09
soundrayDeterminist, you were supposing that there must be fragmentation in ext2. There isn't. Final proof is in the source. ext2 avoids fragmentation by design.11:09
david_m_ei want fun games, what amounts to pretty pictures that aren't mal-ware11:09
valberghmm.. my firefox is very weird... the toolbar is messy with large fonts and stuff... anyone know anything about this ?11:09
Agrajagdavid_m_e: there's quite of few of them already in ubuntu as well11:09
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: HorizSync30-96 and VertRefresh50-16011:09
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Agrajagppracer, a tron clone or five, various clones of other games11:09
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david_m_eexample: Niko, a cat program for keeping notes, is terribly behaved; just it running, nothing else, will lock up my wifes WinMe11:10
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: there's whitespace between the option and the value11:10
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Agrajagwell to be fair, pretty much anything will lock up WinME11:10
lightbrightBlueDevil: you m,ust be joking!11:10
Krishello, is it difficult to upgrade to breezy from hoary and will I lose anything in the process?11:10
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david_m_ethank you for your suggestions;11:10
AgrajagKris: yes, and no.11:10
TechnobabbleKris, you shouldn't11:10
Agrajager11:11
basticould anyone give me a tip for any application that can translate between languages?11:11
AgrajagNo, and No.11:11
BlueDevillightbright: about what? the values?11:11
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Krisheh11:11
Agrajagit's easy and you lose nothing.11:11
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lightbrightBlueDevil: about your nick :P11:11
Jowiledh: since you're not answering my privs... run "sudo apt-get update" to see if the errors dissappeared11:11
BlueDevillightbright: lol11:11
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MillenniumgroupSection "Monitor"11:11
MillenniumgroupIdentifier"Generic Monitor"11:11
MillenniumgroupOption"DPMS"11:11
MillenniumgroupHorizSync28-4911:11
MillenniumgroupVertRefresh43-7211:11
Millenniumgroupthat's where I change the info11:11
KrisI sense a but... there11:11
BlueDevilyes11:11
ledhJowi: i did!!11:11
ledh0.011:11
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Agrajagall you have to do is open up /etc/apt/sources.list, change all instances of hoary to breezy, and run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"11:11
BlueDevillightbright: why? :)11:11
Millenniumgroupok doing it now11:11
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darkrangeri just installed ubuntu , pretty good i might say :P11:12
diegoCOMO ES EL CANAL EN ESPAOL?11:12
soundrayBlueDevil, Millenniumgroup, I'm running 1280x1024 with HorizSync 30-80 and VertRefresh 50-75. These values are a bit more conservative11:12
Jowiledh: didn't see a thing. you registered with /msg nickserv?11:12
Agrajag!es11:12
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:12
diego#ubuntu_es11:12
lightbrightBlueDevil: because the devil looks like you and I, a created angel, he is not some blue monster :)11:12
Kriswhat's the downside to upgrading to breezy?11:12
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lightbrightKris: none11:12
AgrajagKris: can't think of anything11:12
Jowidiego: /join #ubuntu-es11:12
bipolardoes anyone know how to print out a dia diagram on a single page?11:12
ledhJowi: what's that? x_x11:12
soundrayKris, it takes some time and bandwidth.11:12
Krisok here we go then :)11:12
david_m_eKris: you have more free time to 'take out the garbage', etc...11:12
ledhJowi: i haven't registered in anything...11:13
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Kristime and bandwidth I have in pleanty at the moment11:13
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ledhJowi: yaaaaaaay!!! No more errors!! Thanks!!! You rock! :P11:13
Jowiledh: you can register your username "ledh" so that you can do more stuff... anyway, "sudo apt-get update"11:13
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adil_me 211:13
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ledhJowi: how do i register?11:13
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: you should also specify a modeline11:14
nick1prestaguys, I have a root problem with my Unbuntu box...anyone to help?11:14
BlueDevilmissed him :(11:14
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Jowiledh: /msg nickserv help11:14
soundrayBlueDevil, it's gonna work without one, I'm sure.11:14
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wijhoi11:15
BlueDevilsoundray: yes, but it likely his monitor will be out of sync11:15
soundraynick1presta, you can't log in as root by desing in Ubuntu.11:15
Krisone quick question then about the breezy thing; my ubuntu box is my firewall / router, if I update it will it kick us off the net while updating? >.<11:15
londonboi2k3guys is this the correct format to mail myself from the CLI the output of ifconfig "ifconfig | mail someone@gmail.com11:15
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BlueDevilsoundray: those values are very broad11:15
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ledhi really need to get a dummy guide for IRChats11:15
ledh-.-UUU11:15
BlueDevilsoundray: that's why he should specify a modeline11:15
soundrayBlueDevil, did he use yours or mine in the end?11:15
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BlueDevilsoundray: don't know11:16
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BlueDevilsoundray: he can try both11:16
adil_Too many video packets in the buffer: (4096 in 8262447 bytes)11:16
KrisI just don't want to have my wife screaming at me when her EQ suddenly goes linkdead if ubuntu asks me to restart before during or after the update, or worse yet, restarts without asking me11:16
soundrayBlueDevil, we'll see, if his CRT goes up in smoke, he won't be logging in again any time soon.11:16
wijto be SUPERUSER type "sudo bash" in a shell terminal and type your login password   < for the dummy's11:16
BlueDevilsoundray: no way that's gonna happen11:16
soundraywij, sudo bash is unsafe.11:17
BlueDevilsoundray: it'll shutdown11:17
nick1prestaSoundray: I know. That isn't my problem. I enabled root logins and such and went to sign in and it gave me an error about how it cannot connect to the XML file and such and it wouldn't log me in...11:17
adil_why do i keep getting on this error from gmplayer:11:17
adil_Too many video packets in the buffer: (4096 in 8262447 bytes)11:17
wijsoundray :why unsafe / it's working well11:17
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soundraynick1presta, your error description is a bit vague.11:18
soundraywij, use sudo -i, then you know you've got root's environment.11:18
BlueDevilsoundray: Modeline "1280x1024" 151.83  1280 1360 1544 1888  1024 1024 1027 1072 is @75Hz and should work11:18
NecrocideWhen does Firefox 1.5 get enabled to download with Synaptic?11:18
nick1prestasoundray, I know. It was early this morning and I forgot. Do you know any possible solution to an XML error at root login.11:18
BlueDevilNecrocide: when dapper is released :)11:19
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soundraywij, with sudo bash you get a mixed environment from root and user.11:19
wijsoundray, i'll try now.........11:19
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Necrocidedapper?11:19
BlueDevildapper drake11:19
BlueDevilbreezy+111:19
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Necrocide:o11:19
soundraynick1presta, I don't even know a possible /cause/ for an xml related error on login.11:19
nick1prestaAh ok.11:19
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nick1prestaI will write down the error and google it tomorrow then11:19
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soundraynick1presta, good idea, or come back here...11:20
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: so?11:20
MillenniumgroupI've tried both of ya settings, it didn't work guys :/11:20
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Millenniumgroupsure it alters the reso, but not 1280x102411:20
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wijsoundray " thanks"11:20
nick1prestaIt's my high school's computer which was given to me so it's a dual boot WinXP/Ubuntu but people could've messed with it while I was gone for the day...11:20
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: try my settings with this modeline "Modeline "1280x1024" 151.83  1280 1360 1544 1888  1024 1024 1027 1072"11:20
grshprA question about terminals; how do I switch easy between, for instance: a centericq terminal-tab and a irssi-tab? (So that I can switch between different channels in irssi without switching over to the centericq-tab?)11:20
hawkingsorry I was away did anyone answer my question about dc clients for linux?11:20
hawkingand if yeas are any of them in repos?11:21
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BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: and specify 1280x1024 he first resolution for the depth you're using11:21
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MillenniumgroupModeline is already 1280x1024 (old setting I edited a while ago)11:21
soundrayhawking, no idea, you know apt-cache search ?11:21
Millenniumgroupeven tried to remove evry reso except 1280x1024 in the modline, no joy11:21
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: paste your xorg.conf11:21
android_hawking, dc++11:21
Millenniumgroupk11:21
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soundrayMillenniumgroup, not here though!11:22
Millenniumgrouplol nah11:22
Millenniumgroupon pastebin11:22
BlueDevilhe knows :)11:22
soundrayMillenniumgroup, thanks :)11:22
Millenniumgroup:D11:22
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tygoreI did a silly thing: relied on sudo, didn't create a root password, then touched the /etc/hosts file before /etc/hostname and now there is no sudo11:22
tygoreis there any cure?11:22
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BlueDeviltygore: what!?11:22
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tygoreunable to lookup ... via gethostbyname()11:23
MillenniumgroupHere guys >>>> http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/552511:23
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chris86wmhey guys, does anyone know of a program that can show the status of my online banking account from the desktop (like a gdesklet)?11:23
soundrayHave you guys ever heard about a multi-tuner PCI card with DVB-S *and* DVB-T?11:23
tygoreBlueDevil: this is what I get trying to use sudo11:23
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diubidonehey all how do I install gtkorphan?11:24
joshihello.. can anyone help on problem with wine? Everything detailed here:11:24
joshihttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=10087411:24
Millenniumgroupargh.. xserver reseted my xorg.conf, anyways before I had 1280x1024 on the modelines11:24
tygoreBlueDevil: but sudo should be reliable at _any_ situation not just whenever anything is ok11:24
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blue-frogtygore, u have to reboot in recovery mode and change/finish what u wanted to do11:25
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wijToday i kicked out Windows Xp and installed, Ubuntu,   now I can sleep at night.11:25
Millenniumgrouplol nice quote ^11:25
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ompaulwhat does one do with apt or dpkg commands to check the authenticy of that which is installed?11:25
soundraywij, well done.11:25
blue-frogtygore, sudo works when /etc/hosts and hostname are in accordance...11:25
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zelevwhi guys...when i start synaptic package manager i tells me that it cant stat a bunch of stuff...i deleted all of the #s...what can be going wrong?11:26
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tygoreblue-frog: yes but is that logical?11:26
zandaahello all, I still can't get my HD to work <_<11:26
blue-frogtygore, next time if u want to change the name of your computer use the gui screen or sudo su first11:26
soundrayzelevw, well you deleted all the #s -- that's what's gone wrong...11:26
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blue-frogtygore, if u put diesel in a petrol car it's not working...11:27
Jowizelevw: give a precise error (if you have a long list, post in in the pastebin (type; /msg ubotu pastebin for more info))11:27
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erikstianyone able to help me with /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf ?  What's "psk" for example? Been trying to bring my wireless up forever.. "dmesg | grep ipw" shows some good signs at least now11:27
tygoreblue-frog: 1) I confess I didn't exactly know how to change my computer name.11:27
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erikstiit's an ipw2200bg11:27
grshprIf I want to restart gnome, what do I do?11:27
Jowieriksti: psk is a short for "passkey"11:27
zelevwsoundray: where can i find a sources.list that will allow me to find and install libdvdcss2, xmms, etc?  i'm running ubuntu 5.10...thank you11:28
tygoreblue-frog: but sudo could be better :)11:28
grshprWithout restarting the computer.11:28
grshpr:)11:28
erikstiJowi: and if I have no idea what it is? :)11:28
Agrajag!tell zelevw about restrictedformats11:28
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wij/etc/apt/sources.list11:28
tygoreblue-frog: if I was using root I wouldn't be trapped ;)11:28
Jowieriksti: do you need a passkey to connect to your router?11:28
soundrayzelevw, perhaps deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ experimental main11:28
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Agrajagzelevw: read the link ubotu sent you11:29
erikstiJowi:  don't think so.. I'm at a univerity, and I think I'd hear about it if so11:29
soundrayzelevw, add it to your existing one11:29
erikstiJowi: I leave it blank, remove it or something?11:29
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: use the xorg.conf from there: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/d552611:29
blue-frogtygore when if u want to walk straight put one foot in front of the other, what can i say...11:29
Jowieriksti: no idea. have no wifi here. have you read the wireless wiki?11:29
zelevwthank you11:29
wijdeb-src http://security.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted multiverse universe11:30
erikstiJowi: I've read lots of stuff.. had this thing over a year without being able to connect lol11:30
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: and do it soon, coz i'm leaving11:30
soundrayBlueDevil, wow, you're good.11:30
blue-frogtygore, hence sudo su11:30
BlueDevilhuh?11:30
Millenniumgroupok , copy the text and paste it into my xorg config right?11:30
BlueDevilyou can download the file directly11:30
soundrayBlueDevil, I've never had anyone write a xorg.conf for me :)11:31
BlueDevilno need to copy paste11:31
tygoreblue-frog: sure, but things could be a little better at least. I call it my stupidity + sudo's trap. And also I prefer to be trapped, and learn from it but do not use the gui for this sort of thing. Anyways, thanks very much11:31
BlueDevilsoundray: lol :)11:31
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soundrayBlueDevil, nice trick with the 'd', too.11:31
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blue-frogtygore, /join #bluefrog i'll give you the path to follow11:31
MillenniumgroupBluedevil, yes but im talking about my path, xorg/config, heres what im doing, loading gedit xorg/confi ,removing all the text , pasting the log from the file I downloaded11:31
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: stop11:31
Millenniumgroupok?11:32
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: no11:32
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BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: you'll screw something up11:32
Cybercoolhello11:32
erikstiJowi: I got through this one, that's basically where I'm at right now: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2662311:32
Cybercoolis there somebody who can help me with printer paper settings???11:32
Millenniumgroupok.. so you want me to use the modeline values and past it into my xorg/conf then?11:32
soundrayBlueDevil, I'll see him through the rest if you want to leave.11:32
erikstiJowi: getting the conf file done right is the last part of that howto11:32
Jowieriksti: haha, just found the same one11:32
TmfcNeed some help with perl @INC (newbie).  Does perl have a config file that the executable loads?  Or do you have to compile in @INC to the executable?11:32
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: do this: "wget http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/d5526" as normal user11:33
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup:11:33
Jowi!wireless11:33
ubotuI heard wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards11:33
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak"11:33
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BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: "sudo cp d5526 /etc/X11/xorg.conf"11:34
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BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: exactly like that11:34
Cybercoolis there somebody who can help me with printer paper settings???11:34
MWettendorffWhat is the best IRC program for linux??11:34
Cybercoolplease!!11:34
Agrajagirssi11:34
zandaaMWettendorff, XChat is a good client11:34
wijx-chat 2.4.411:35
Millenniumgrouposcar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx~$ sudo cp d5526 /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:35
Millenniumgroupcp: cannot stat `d5526': No such file or directory11:35
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erikstiJowi: I have Network controller: Intel Corp. PRO/Wireless 2200BG (rev 05)11:35
marianhello11:35
Jowieriksti: yes, it is supported it seems. start here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto11:36
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: what did you do different?11:36
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: and don't say "nothing"11:36
grshprSorry for saying this twice, but if I want to restart gnome without restarting my computer, how do I do?11:36
wijI have an MSI wifi11:36
erikstiJowi:  will do11:36
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Millenniumgroup1 wget http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/d5526  2nd sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak 3rd sudo cp d5526 /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:36
Agrajaggrshpr: log out11:36
navaronegrshpr: ctrl-alt-backspace11:36
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Agrajagnavarone: wtf11:36
zandaadarnit11:36
dooglusgrshpr: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart11:36
Agrajagwhy not have him close things nicely?11:36
erikstiJowi: thanks for the help, looks like I have some reading to do! :)11:36
Cybercoolis there somebody who can help me with printer paper settings???11:36
zandaaardchoille? could you help me?11:37
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: what was output from wget?11:37
Millenniumgroupit returned nothing >11:37
navaroneAgrajag: he only mentioned not restarting computer...I assume he can close things himself11:37
soundrayCybercool, I'll try. What's the problem?11:37
Jowieriksti: np, let me know if you succeed :)11:37
Cybercoolsoundray, i want to print a photo (setting 4x6)11:37
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: wtf!?11:38
Cybercoolsoundray: but when i set this size, i doesn't get good on the paper, it only prints at the end of the 4x6 paper11:38
Cybercoolsoundray, i don't know why!11:38
dooglusMillenniumgroup: for step 3, do "sudo cp post_5526.txt /etc/X11/xorg.conf"11:38
Millenniumgroupyeah im new, but I did the command wget xxxx something and it returned me a >11:38
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: you mean when you ran wget it didn't output anything?11:38
soundrayCybercool, perhaps your placing the paper in the wrong corner?11:38
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dooglusMillenniumgroup: if it said '>', that's cos you didn't have the quotes balanced or some such.11:39
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: without the "11:39
Millenniumgroupyes without the quotes11:39
soundrayCybercool, print a draft to an A4 sheet, so you know exactly where it will print.11:39
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Cybercoolsoundray, but, how is that so, this is the good corner11:39
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: you had a " at the beginning11:39
Millenniumgroupargh ok.. I guess I did somethign wrong with wget11:39
tygoreblue-frog: I rebooted into recovery mode but it asked for root password, which I don't have11:39
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Millenniumgroupwhat should I do now?11:39
Cybercoolsoundray: but it prints also at the end of the page, when the photo paper is almost out of the printer11:40
dooglusMillenniumgroup: wget http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/d552611:40
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: run the wget again without any quotes11:40
dooglusMillenniumgroup: with no quotes11:40
soundrayCybercool, which program do you use for printing?11:40
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Cybercoolsoundray, standard gnome image viewer11:40
dooglusMillenniumgroup: you probably also want to strip all the control-M characters off that file before using it11:40
Millenniumgroupk it worked with wget11:41
Millenniumgroupdooglus, huh, wow im lost... control-m characters?11:41
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: now do the sudo cp stuff11:41
soundrayCybercool, it may be worth leaving the printer settings on standard A4, then open the image in The Gimp, and print from there.11:41
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trappistMillenniumgroup: try dos2unix to do that11:41
Cybercoolsoundray, what are you suspecting?11:42
Millenniumgroupthis one sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak or sudo cp d5526 /etc/X11/xorg.conf ???11:42
soundrayCybercool, Gimp allows you to place the image precisely.11:42
dooglusMillenniumgroup: it's in 'DOS' format for some reason.11:42
zandaaI'm gonna ditch Linux alltogether if this doesn't work soon <_<11:42
soundrayCybercool, I'm not suspecting anything. Just suggesting a workaround.11:42
Cybercoolsoundray, ok all have to try that11:42
dooglusMillenniumgroup: this will fix it: cat d5526 | tr -d \\015 > d5526.unix11:42
Cybercoolsoundray, but i'm not on the computer where de printer was connected to11:42
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caissecaisse11:43
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Cybercoolsoundray, if you have a moment, i'll go to the printer and try11:43
Millenniumgrouposcar@cccccccccc:~$ cat d5526 | tr -d \\015 > d5526.unix11:43
Millenniumgrouposcar@cccccccccc:~$11:43
soundrayCybercool, I'll be here for ~ 15 minutes.11:43
dooglusright.11:43
Millenniumgroupis that all?11:43
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BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: no11:43
dooglusMillenniumgroup: now, did you run the "sudo mv" to make a backup?11:43
Cybercoolsoundray, ok11:43
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tygoredo I need the root password for the recovery mode?11:43
MillenniumgroupDevil so my next step will be sudo mv right?11:43
soundraytygore, no.11:43
dooglusMillenniumgroup: if you didn't already do the mv, do it now.11:43
dooglusMillenniumgroup: if you did it already, no need to do it again11:44
tygorebut it asks me for it11:44
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: sudo cp d5526.unix /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:44
BlueDevildooglus: he did it11:44
dooglusMillenniumgroup: then the 'cp' should be... what BlueDevil just said11:44
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Cybercoolsoundray, i'm at the printer now, you say print an a4 with the 4x6 setting in gimp?11:44
Millenniumgrouposcar@ccccccccc:~$ sudo cp d5526.unix /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:44
Millenniumgrouposcar@ccccccccc:~$11:44
MillenniumgroupRight?11:44
soundraytygore, did you set it?11:44
tygoresoundray: I got into a prompt asking for root password or Ctrl+D11:44
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: ok, now restart X11:45
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Hobbseetygore: this is when booting?11:45
Millenniumgroupk11:45
dooglusBlueDevil: I know he tried to do it, but I think he might have been looking at a '>' prompt when he did it...11:45
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dooglusBlueDevil: oh well - too late now...11:45
soundrayCybercool, no, use the A4 setting, size the image appropriately in the print dialog and place it in the box according to how you slot in your paper.11:45
tygoresoundray: not sure. if yes means there is not other cure? ;)11:45
Hobbseetygore: why are you booting into recovery mode?  did the normal mode for that kernel go awol?11:45
BlueDevildooglus: no harm done... he can get it back from pastebin11:45
orkinok, help. It give me my modem registration ID and says I need to go to linuxant to get a License key then prompts me to entert license key(FREE) where do I go on this website to get this11:45
orkin?11:45
soundrayCybercool, do a draft print to A4 to be sure.11:46
soundraytygore, you can still fix it with a bootable CD, e.g. Ubuntu Live.11:46
Cybercoolsoundray, draft print?11:46
soundrayCybercool, test print to cheap A4 paper.11:46
soundrayCybercool, so you know where to place the image in the print dialog.11:47
Cybercoolbut do i have to print normal size, or 4x6 size?11:47
wij?11:47
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soundrayCybercool, leave the printer settings on normal size, but resize the *image* to 4x6.11:47
hi-fo-webhey i need help on something11:47
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soundrayCybercool, you can do that in the print dialogue.11:47
Cybercoolyes, i see11:48
BlueDevilwhat's taking him so long? :)11:48
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hi-fo-webdoes any one know a good site to get winavi video converter 7.1 serial numbers ?????11:48
Cybercoolsoundray, i have done it, now ill have to print and see if it comes in the beginning of the page11:48
tygoresoundray: is there a small bootable cd? (in cdimage.ubuntu....)11:48
BlueDevilhi-fo-web: does this look as a warez channel? :)11:48
Technobabblehi-fo-web, anyone with half a brain knows this isn't the place for that shit11:48
soundraytygore, no, but you can use DSL Linux if you need a small download.11:49
Nexinarussomeone kick hi-fo-web for that stupid comment :p11:49
hi-fo-webwell hell i didnt know11:49
hi-fo-webim new11:49
hi-fo-webto linux11:49
tygoresoundray: thanks :)11:49
hi-fo-webi have never uesd it11:49
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Technobabblemaybe, but that isn't even a linux question11:49
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BlueDevilhi-fo-web: what's winavi got to do with linux?11:49
hi-fo-webwell i didnt know any where eles to go gha11:49
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: ?11:49
hi-fo-webgah11:49
Cybercoolsoundray, it's not doing much at all11:49
Nexinarusthats like sleeping with your wifes sister and saying, shit i didnt know im new to linux! :p11:50
hi-fo-webi thought yall might could help11:50
BlueDevil:))11:50
Millenniumgroupit worked, but the monitor gave me a red warning screen, and when I tried 1280x1024 the reso lasted for about 5 seconds before the screen turned off it self11:50
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soundrayCybercool, you know that you have to set up your printer in the Gimp print dialog?11:50
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BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: what refresh rate do you use when in windows?11:50
Millenniumgroupnow im back with 60@ and 1024x768 (I had to edit the xorg) in my virtual terminal - orgin stats11:50
navaroneNexinarus: if your wife's siter is named linux it would kinda make sense tho...<s>11:50
MillenniumgroupBluedevil... I really can't remember... :/11:50
ArkGullwingHmm, I'm back again, I tried running the Live boot disk thing and i got bad display once it booted... any ideas why?11:50
hi-fo-webi was refering to this chat stuff11:51
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Cybercoolsoundray, what do i have to setup?11:51
hi-fo-webi dont know anything about it11:51
londonboi2k3hi guys, just a quick one, how do I configure the login manager, IE to install another theme?11:51
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: change the modeline in the xorg.conf file with this one: Modeline "1280x1024" 109.62  1280 1336 1472 1720  1024 1024 1026 106211:51
Cybercoolsoundray, i didn't know, how to setup?11:51
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: save the file, and then restart X11:51
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soundrayCybercool, go through the dialog from top to bottom, put in settings that make sense to you.11:51
FatDarelhey guys11:51
navaroneArkGullwing: maybe bad driver but that can probably be fixed after install. vidcard troubles are pretty common11:51
Millenniumgroupk11:52
FatDareli need some help i am looking for the 2.6.12-1011:52
ArkGullwingwell11:52
ArkGullwingi cant do anything if i couldnt see =P11:52
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: you didn't erase the xorg.conf file i gave you, did you?11:52
FatDareli need some help i am looking for the 2.6.12-10  linux kernel headers for ubuntu ???11:52
londonboi2k3Anyone?11:52
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Millenniumgroupdevil, nah it's still here on my hdd11:52
ArkGullwingit was a bunch of virtical lines made my eyes hurt heheh11:52
hi-fo-webalright how do i get to the other chanales11:52
kyncaniFatDarel: Why on earth are you looking for that specific kernel keaders version ?11:52
BlueDevilFatDarel: you can install them via synaptic/apt/aptitude11:52
Cybercoolsoundray, do i have to select a pdd driver? because the printer is not listed11:52
navaroneArkGullwing: what hardware you using?11:52
garlixGreetings. I am close to tearing my hair :-( I've got ubuntu-breezy running on a Compaq Presario latop with an ATI-graphicscard (That I believe is identified to being a ATI Radeon Mobile 9000)... It has wroked fine - until I've tried to run Cedega. I fail the Video-tests in cedega. What I've tried to do is installing ATI's fglrx without much success :-( Anyone tried this and could give me some clues as how to do this?11:52
MillenniumgroupDevil, you want me to copy Modeline "1280x1024" 109.62  1280 1336 1472 1720  1024 1024 1026 1062 and paste it directly how it looks like?11:53
BlueDevilkyncani: it's the latest ubuntu kernel11:53
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BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: yes, in the xorg.conf file i gave you11:53
londonboi2k3hi there, does anyone know how to change the theme for the loging manager?11:53
FatDarelBlueDevil, not working11:53
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Millenniumgrouphere's how my current modeline looks like odes"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"11:53
kyncaniBlueDevil: and so that's why he _needs_ it ;)11:53
dannyHello everyone11:53
FatDarelkyncani, because that is my kernel that's why11:53
dannyHow is everyone?11:53
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: not in another one11:53
walterhi11:53
ArkGullwingNavarone: NVidia GEForce FX 5700LE11:53
blue-frogtygore, if it's asking for a root passwd it means u set one up11:53
dannyWalter where do you live?11:53
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: man, you're giving me a headache11:54
FatDarelBlueDevil, cannot seem to find it11:54
Millenniumgrouplol sorry bud :/11:54
soundrayCybercool, what driver have you set up outside of Gimp>11:54
soundray?11:54
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: what you pasted is not a modeline!!!11:54
walteri live in chile11:54
dannyoh11:54
Cybercoolsoundray, i installed a driver true a installation script i got from a website11:54
dannyNvm then11:54
kyncaniFatDarel: I think kernel headers should be the same that the ones the _libc_ was compiled with. Not the same as your kernel version11:54
FatDarelBlueDevil, I don't think the ubuntu apt repository has it as of now11:54
Cybercoolsoundray, it for a canon 150011:54
londonboi2k3hi there, does anyone know how to change the theme for the loging manager?11:54
dannyMy brother knows a walter....11:54
walterand you?11:54
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: how did you revert to the old resolution?11:54
Cybercoolsoundray, i have no pdd file11:54
BlueDevilFatDarel: it has it11:54
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Cybercoolsoundray, or is it putted somewhere, so i can select it11:54
MillenniumgroupBlue, running dkpg xserver11:55
FatDarelBlueDevil, what is it ?11:55
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FatDarelBlueDevil, what sources.list items do you have11:55
walterdanny, where do you live?11:55
dannyMichigan11:55
efeilingHello I have a problem with my system reboot whenever I try to start a game.11:55
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walterufff11:55
efeilingI have the 64-bit verison of Ubnutu 5.1011:55
FatDarelme211:55
ArkGullwingstill with me Navarone?11:56
dannyFat you're from Michigan?11:56
efeilingNForce 4 mother board?11:56
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: do you still have the d5526.unix file?11:56
navaroneAny one using irssi? I am wondering if away messages default to channel. I hear it can eba  no-no on some servers11:56
Cybercoolsoundray, i have found the ppd file11:56
Cybercoolsoundray, i try to print now11:56
soundrayCybercool, okay...11:56
walteryes, but for internet, jajaj11:56
ArkGullwingNavarone: NVidia GEForce FX 5700LE11:56
MillenniumgroupI got 1 file on my (the one I got from pastebin) called post_5526.txt11:56
navaroneArkGullwing: I dunno what to tell you bud11:56
ArkGullwinghmm11:57
dannyHello11:57
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: where did the d5526.unix file go?11:57
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: did you remove it?11:57
Cybercoolsoundray, it doesn't print11:57
navaroneArkGullwing: too amny variables for me to know offhand...vidcard was guess but kinda unappetizing if no displaya t all11:58
ArkGullwingALL: I'm trying to try out this OS and when i run the live boot disk, when it gets to the part where it plays the start up music and i guess there should be a desktop, the video is bad.. verticle lines that make my eyes hurt.. im using NVidia GEForce FX 5700LE11:58
Cybercoolsoundray, when i load the ppd file, do i have to select a printer, it's now on postscript11:58
ArkGullwing*nod nod*11:58
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Cybercoolsoundray printer model is on postscript11:58
navaroneArkGullwing: can you log in at all?11:58
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MillenniumgroupDevil, no I mean not manually, I did all the commands you asked.. so It should have been moved/copied.. ok let's do this another day.. Im tired :/ and your on your way out I pressume?11:58
zandaa!tell zandaa about ntfs11:58
orkin wil losmebody help me wityh this modem driver, the deb went fine and now it's asking me to enter a free modem license key11:59
ArkGullwingwell, it boots, and it gets to where its loading everything, and then it gets to that crappy video and i hear music, and i can see movement when i move the mouse around11:59
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: i am11:59
Cybercoolsoundray, ??11:59
soundrayCybercool, is your printer listed under Printer Name in the Gimp printing dialog?11:59
orkinIt gives me a registration id where to I go on the linuxant website to enter my registration id11:59
zandaa!tell zandaa about ntfs11:59
Cybercoolsoundray, no11:59
Millenniumgroupok.. I want to thank you for trying to help me BlueDevil, Im new and I also know n00bs will cause ya a split headache, tx again m8 :)11:59
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: no prob11:59
ubun-newbiehow do i install adsl , sudo adsl-setup right12:00
Millenniumgroupand thank you jowi,soundray and the one's I forgot to mention by name!12:00
Cybercoolsoundray, i have loaded the ppd file, al settings for paper anything is for the printere setted up, but i cannot select printer model12:00

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