[12:00] <erUSUL> proxosi, with a few
[12:00] <Agrajag> totem
[12:00] <dragoon> how do i play video in ubuntu
[12:00] <BenUrban> proxosi: it comes with several afaict
[12:00] <jeed890> so im bugered :'(
[12:00] <johnsie2k> Qmario are you suig a router?
[12:00] <Agrajag> ok
[12:00] <QMario> BenUrban, public.
[12:00] <johnsie2k> using
[12:00] <Jowi> QMario: if it is connected straight to a modem: ifconfig. if it is connected to a router: login to the router and check.
[12:00] <QMario> Yes, a router.
[12:00] <Shady> Hello everyone. Anyone ever had problems with wi-fi and ubuntu, because I've been fooling around with it for a while and it hasn't worked.
[12:00] <dragoon> i downloaded  w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[12:00] <Fujitsu> Shady, what type of card/encryption?
[12:00] <dragoon> and installed it
[12:00] <dragoon> still - video doesnt play
[12:00] <johnsie2k> then cant you use luynx to log into the router and get the ip from there?
[12:00] <Necrocide> Agrajag, what is "/dev/zero"? Where does it take the swap space from? (I'm still running two partitions, windows/linux)
[12:00] <BenUrban> QMario: if you have links or lynx you don't need kde or gnome
[12:00] <Shady> Atheros/WEP
[12:01] <johnsie2k> lynx
[12:01] <Debian> BenUrban, dude my fiend can see my home folder! how
[12:01] <Fujitsu> URGH. lynx is bad. links is good.
[12:01] <harfooz> how do I get firefox to use the mozilla-mplayer plugin to play trailers?
[12:01] <Razor-X> Fujitsu: it's a choice
[12:01] <BenUrban> Debian: ls -ld ~
[12:01] <Shady> Fujitsu, atheros/wep
[12:01] <Fujitsu> Shady, how have you been playing with it?
[12:01] <Razor-X> I prefer lynx, personally
[12:01] <BenUrban> check the permissions bits
[12:01] <QMario> Media Player Connectivity Extension.
[12:01] <chrisx1> Fujitsu, where do i put this in xorg.conf
[12:01] <chrisx1> 2. Add the following line to the ServerLayout Section: Inputdevice  touchscreen1 SendCoreEvents
[12:02] <dnB> Lewix, :P
[12:02] <Debian> BenUrban, drwxr-xr-x  28 root root 4096 2005-12-07 19:05 /root
[12:02] <chrisx1> ?
[12:02] <BenUrban> Debian: ...
[12:02] <BenUrban> Debian: you're using sudo
[12:02] <Shady> Fujitsu, Well I've reset it, and redid all the passwords, made sure I had the right WEP key and then I put the info on my network connections and it doesn't connect
[12:02] <Lewix> yo dnB
[12:02] <BenUrban> but why is /root visible to everyone anyway?
[12:02] <Jowi> chrisx1: you just pasted your answer.
[12:02] <erUSUL> chrisx1, in the ServerLayout Section?
[12:02] <Fujitsu> Jowi, basically, yes.
[12:02] <BenUrban> Debian: chmod 700 /root
[12:02] <dnB> Lewix, no help yet eh
[12:02] <chrisx1> i see no serverlayout section
[12:03] <Debian> BenUrban, ok i removed sudo
[12:03] <Debian> drwx---r-x  48 ubuntu ubuntu 4096 2005-12-08 01:02 /home/ubuntu
[12:03] <chrisx1> erUSUL, found it silly me lol
[12:03] <phiz__> those are silly permissions
[12:03] <BenUrban> ah so i didn't have the syntax quite right
[12:03] <Jowi> chrisx1: look at the bottom of the xorg.conf: Section "ServerLayout" is there
[12:03] <Fujitsu> chrisx1, I see Section "ServerLayout"
[12:03] <BenUrban> Debian: chmod o-r-x /home/ubuntu
[12:03] <Lewix> dnB:nope
[12:03] <BenUrban> phiz__: i got the chmod syntax wrong
[12:04] <phiz__> chmod 770 /home/ubuntu
[12:04] <BenUrban> phiz__: i told him to do g-r-x o-r-x
[12:04] <Debian> whats o-r-x ?
[12:04] <phiz__> oh
[12:04] <kandinski> I just installed the ATI binary drivers (Ubuntu Breezy package on an updated Ubuntu Breezy system) on my athlon 1200 with a generic ATI 9200. They work fine for GL.
[12:04] <phiz__> o = other/world
[12:04] <kandinski> However, videos on Totem look like ass and TVtime craps out upon loading. Any fix?
[12:04] <erUSUL> Debian, if you want to make sure that only you caqn see your files do chmod -R 700 $HOME
[12:04] <Fujitsu> I know not, kandinski.
[12:05] <BenUrban> kandinski: i suggest you get some videos that do not depict ass
[12:05] <chrisx1> if i already have an InputDevice Section should i inslude my text there or make another?
[12:05] <Fujitsu> chrisx1, include it like the others.
[12:05] <erUSUL> Debian, and then add umask=077 to your .bashrc
[12:05] <dragoon> mm good ol vlc
[12:05] <kandinski> BenUrban: you are funny. I got videos showing horse. It still looks like ass.
[12:05] <BenUrban> haha
[12:05] <erUSUL> chrisx1, add it to the existing one
[12:06] <Debian> erUSUL, whats the .bashrc :/
[12:06] <Razor-X> Debian: it's the file that contains the preferences for BASH
[12:07] <erUSUL> Debian, it is a file for configuring the comand line (bash)
[12:07] <Debian> Razor-X, where is it located?
[12:07] <Razor-X> Debian: ~/.bashrc
[12:07] <Razor-X> :)
[12:07] <erUSUL> Debian, setting the umask makes all your new files get the restrictive permisions
[12:08] <Debian> erUSUL, im in the file.. where do i actually put it?
[12:08] <BenUrban> correct me if i'm wrong, but doesn't .bashrc apply only to interactive shells?
[12:08] <gimmulf> !tor
[12:08] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, gimmulf
[12:08] <BenUrban> haha
[12:08] <Fujitsu> I like it!
[12:08] <Razor-X> BenUrban: I believe you are correct
[12:08] <`Evil> hello
[12:08] <harfooz> totem keeps trying to play the apple trailers, and I want the mozilla-mplayer plugin to do it. I've install the plugin -- how do I tell ff to use mplayer rather than totem?
[12:08] <BenUrban> in which case, you want .bash_profile
[12:08] <chrisx1> brb tryin this thing
[12:08] <Fujitsu> `Evil, Hi.
[12:08] <`Evil> who use the zd1211 chipset please
[12:08] <Razor-X> erUSUL: reading is too pass\`{e}
[12:08] <Razor-X> :)
[12:09] <BenUrban> \`{e}?
[12:09] <dnB> Lewix, exactly what problem are you having? are you seeing anything at all? when does the screen go blank? what laptop are you using?
[12:09] <Razor-X> BenUrban: that's LaTeX to render an `e' with a grave accent
[12:09] <BenUrban> ah
[12:09] <Fujitsu> Razor-X. Yay. LaTeX.
[12:09] <BenUrban> you and your \LaTeX
[12:09] <erUSUL> Debian, whatever you like the line should read 'export umask=077'
[12:09] <Razor-X> BenUrban: yeah, I use it to do all my homework :)
[12:09] <BenUrban> ...
[12:10] <Razor-X> BenUrban: it takes time?
[12:10] <Fujitsu> Razor-X: I like the version numbers... 3.14159...
[12:10] <Razor-X> I wasn't aware 1 minute was substantial time
[12:10] <`Evil> no one ?
[12:10] <Razor-X> Fujitsu: yeahp :)
[12:10] <Debian> do i put export umask=007 or umask=007 ?
[12:10] <BenUrban> Debian: export umask=007
[12:10] <erUSUL> Debian, with export
[12:10] <Shady> Fujitsu, You have any idea of what could be going on?
[12:10] <Fujitsu> Shady, not an inkling.
[12:11] <BenUrban> Debian: but put it in ~/.bash_profile, not ~/.bashrc
[12:11] <navarone> firefox
[12:11] <Shady> agh.
[12:11] <BenUrban> you will then have to log out for it to take effect
[12:11] <Lewix> dnB: the screen with differents options appears(f1,expert,install,live cd,enter) ...well I've tried all of these options, at the beginning it's as if it's going to work, it loads stuff and then the screen goes dark and nothing
[12:12] <dnB> Lewix, that model is your laptop?
[12:12] <BenUrban> does anyone know how to get qemu to not use full screen?
[12:12] <erUSUL> Debian, i was mistaken use a line like this 'umask 077'
[12:12] <mibIV> Hi! I've tried to follow the WiFi-wiki but my wlan adapter won't show up with iwconfig...
[12:12] <Lewix> toshiba something, anyway it's supposed to work I've checked and I've already try knoppix on it
[12:12] <Debian> ok im lost now
[12:13] <BenUrban> Debian: edit your ~/.bash_profile
[12:13] <Debian> ok geat my friend can access my /root/ folder too
[12:13] <dnB> lol Lewix toshiba what?
[12:13] <Razor-X> mibIV: have you tried ndiswrapper?
[12:13] <BenUrban> add the following line somewhere: "umask 077"
[12:13] <BenUrban> (without the quotes)
[12:13] <USCRyan> *QUESTION* im trying to install java runtime, how do i know if i want the linux or the linux RPM? basically, what is RPM?
[12:13] <mibIV> Razor-X: Just installed it.
[12:13] <BenUrban> USCRyan: rpm = redhat package manager
[12:13] <Debian> BenUrban, 077 or 007 ?
[12:14] <BenUrban> Debian: 077
[12:14] <Lewix> dnB: Satellite toshiba M40/M45 series
[12:14] <erUSUL> !java
[12:14] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[12:14] <USCRyan> benurban, thanks
[12:14] <Debian> BenUrban, what does it do
[12:14] <Debian> ?
[12:14] <BenUrban> Debian: then do this: chmod -R o-r-w-x $HOME
[12:14] <Razor-X> mibIV: have you used ``modprobe ndiswrapper'' ?
[12:14] <BenUrban> Debian: makes it so that all files you create in the future are only readable by you
[12:14] <Debian> BenUrban, ok done.
[12:14] <BenUrban> by default
[12:14] <mcmunt> *Help: Each time I insert a CD it appears on the desk top but will not play or view properly??
[12:14] <BenUrban> Debian: then you'll need to log out and log back in
[12:15] <Debian> BenUrban, ok great.. but my friend has entered my /root/ folder
[12:15] <BenUrban> lol
[12:15] <Jowi> mcmunt: what type of cd?
[12:15] <Debian> and he can enter all other folders exept ubuntu
[12:15] <mcmunt> Jowi: A normal music CD
[12:15] <mibIV> Razor-X: It says "FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid argument
[12:15] <Debian> what?
[12:15] <mibIV> "
[12:15] <Debian> :/
[12:15] <BenUrban> Debian: sudo chmod -R g-r-x /root
[12:15] <BenUrban> Debian: sudo chmod -R o-r-x /root
[12:15] <Jowi> mcmunt: can you play it in gnome-cd ?
[12:16] <Razor-X> mibIV: ``sudo modprobe ndiswrapper'' ?
[12:16] <Debian> BenUrban, what was the lol for? :p
[12:17] <BenUrban> Debian: i noticed that /root was visible before
[12:17] <Razor-X> I wonder if I'm the *only* Ubuntu user using ratpoison as a wm
[12:17] <Razor-X> :)
[12:17] <Shady> I'm having trouble accessing my... Access point. I've reset it and re-did the WEP key, and even then it doesn't want to work. It had at one time, but when I booted today it didn't
[12:17] <Jowi> lol probably Razor-X
[12:17] <mibIV> Razor-X: Yep. Or rather, "modprobe ndiswrapper" in a root-terminal, but still...
[12:17] <mcmunt> Jovi: Not sure, it plays in Banshee but I can't rip it with Rythmbox or Grip or view it through the desktop icon. Mount problem?
[12:17] <Razor-X> mibIV: ah
[12:17] <Razor-X> mibIV: what does a ``locate ndiswrapper | grep ko'' show up?
[12:18] <Debian> BenUrban, ok
[12:18] <Debian> BenUrban, so its all good now
[12:18] <Debian> ?
[12:18] <BenUrban> should be
[12:18] <chrisx1> ./elocalX: cannot execute binary file
[12:18] <chrisx1>  Any Ideas?
[12:18] <Jowi> mcmunt: maybe. the cdrom entry in /etc/fstab should be something like this: /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       0
[12:18] <mibIV> Razor-X: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko
[12:18] <`Evil> who got a trendnet wifi usb key please?
[12:19] <chrisx1> ./elocalX: cannot execute binary file Any Ideas?
[12:19] <Kyral> chmod +x?
[12:20] <holycow> hi guys
[12:20] <holycow> anyone have recommendations for wireless pci cards?  i need to jump to a store and buy one soonish
[12:20] <Razor-X> mibIV: try ``sudo insmod /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko''
[12:20] <Kyral> holycow: Athereos ones are supported via MadWifi
[12:20] <dragoon> holycow: the atheros ones have good linux support
[12:20] <b_e_n_z> holycow, any ralink based cards
[12:21] <holycow> aha okay, atheros require no firmware downloads and config ... all autodetected, right?
[12:21] <mcmunt> Jowi: Mmmm thats what it says . . . strange. Banshee seems to have no problems ripping it either.
[12:21] <Kyral> holycow: in the packaged Linux Kernels
[12:21] <Kyral> I mean you'll have to config for the Wireless Net you want to connect to
[12:21] <Jowi> mcmunt: can soundjuicer rip it as well? problems with only that cd or any others as well?
[12:22] <mibIV> Razor-X: Hmm... I either get an error message or a weird ">" prompt...
[12:22] <holycow> Kyral, yeah wifi radar makes that easy :)
[12:22] <holycow> allright thankya!
[12:22] <mibIV> Razor-X: ?
[12:22] <Kyral> I only use mine at home
[12:22] <Comrade_Vladimir> any one have a m robe 500i here that can tell me about it
[12:22] <Razor-X> mibIV: hmmm
[12:22] <Comrade_Vladimir> i no its not reall ythe channel
[12:23] <Razor-X> mibIV: hit enter, I guess
[12:23] <Razor-X> mibIV: or try ``sudo insmod /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko''
[12:23] <mcmunt> Jowi: Not sure I know other CDs have worked. Will try some others later to try and nail it. Thanks for the help.
[12:23] <Kyral> Modprobe is better Razor-X
[12:23] <Razor-X> mibIV: or just simply ``cd /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko'' and then ``insmod ndiswrapper.ko''
[12:23] <Razor-X> Kyral: modprobe refuses to work
[12:23] <Kyral> oh
[12:23] <Razor-X> Kyral: in my experience, I've found that after you insmod, modprobe suddenly finds the driver
[12:23] <Razor-X> :)
[12:24] <Kyral> Razor-X: did he set it up with NDiswrapper Utils?
[12:24] <n1nj4-TaNten> any1 here need som help
[12:24] <Kyral> you should sudo depmod -a
[12:24] <Razor-X> Kyral: I 'unno
[12:24] <Comrade_Vladimir> no one has one? hmm ill try another channel
[12:24] <n1nj4-TaNten> i have just instaleld a basic debian system
[12:24] <Razor-X> Kyral: these are my own experiences
[12:24] <Jowi> mcmunt: no probs. might be that the cd is burnt very tight and that the cdrom-player has problem reading it or something. Stranger things have happened.
[12:24] <n1nj4-TaNten> and i want to change my soruce file
[12:24] <mibIV> Razor-X: bash: cd: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko: is not a directory
[12:24] <n1nj4-TaNten> so i can get ubuntu
[12:24] <n1nj4-TaNten> how do i do that?
[12:24] <bobbyd_> hi
[12:24] <n1nj4-TaNten> !source
[12:24] <ubotu> rumour has it, source is to compile a source package, you first need to 'apt-get build-essential'. Some source packages have other dependencies, such as KDE or Gnome development libraries also.
[12:25] <Kyral> ubotu tell n1nj4-TaNten about easysources
[12:25] <Kyral> ubotu tell n1nj4-TaNten about easysource
[12:25] <Razor-X> mibIV: errr :P ``cd /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper'' ``sudo insmod ndiswrapper.ko''
[12:25] <bobbyd_> what's the easiest way to connect to a windows vpn from ubuntu?
[12:25] <bobbyd_> is there some GUI app to do it?
[12:25] <dragoon> n1nj4-TaNten: you download the ubuntu iso?
[12:25] <Kyral> n1nj4-TaNten: listen to ubotu
[12:25] <Javalio> hi i have a question
[12:25] <bushito> how can i change my screen resolution??
[12:25] <Javalio> does ubunut support the ati x700 pro graphics adapter
[12:26] <Kyral> Javalio: how old is that...
[12:26] <mibIV> Razor-X: insmod: error inserting 'ndiswrapper.ko': -1 Invalid parameters
[12:26] <erUSUL> !tell bushito about fixres
[12:26] <Kyral> it SHOULD
[12:26] <dragoon> yea it should
[12:26] <Kyral> but as if fglrx does is another story
[12:26] <n1nj4-TaNten> breezy or Hoary??
[12:26] <n1nj4-TaNten> what is the difference?
[12:26] <testmach1ne> breezy
[12:26] <proxosi> yo guys.. after i mount the partition.. i add antoher hd into the seconday main... but i cant see it in linux
[12:26] <dragoon> breezy
[12:26] <testmach1ne> breezy is newer
[12:26] <n1nj4-TaNten> :p lol thx
[12:26] <proxosi> bios see its but ubuntu doesnt
[12:26] <Razor-X> mibIV: hmmm....
[12:26] <Javalio> 5.10
[12:26] <miki_> hola!!!
[12:26] <Javalio> like i just ttied to start it up and x wouldnt start
[12:26] <Razor-X> mibIV: did you compile the module?
[12:26] <Kyral> 5.10 == Breezy
[12:27] <erUSUL> proxosi, no /dev/hdc??
[12:27] <erUSUL> proxosi, no /dev/hdd??
[12:27] <proxosi> how do u list the hd u have?
[12:27] <miki_> ay alguien ke able espaol!!??
[12:27] <proxosi> forgot the command
[12:27] <Kyral> sudo fdisk -l
[12:27] <Razor-X> !es
[12:27] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:27] <Kyral> miki_: #ubuntu-es
[12:28] <chrisx1> hey where can i get curses/ncurses from
[12:28] <proxosi> it doesnt show there
[12:28] <Kyral> hmm
[12:28] <miki_> ahhhh
[12:28] <miki_> va
[12:28] <bobbyd_> anyone?
[12:28] <mibIV> Razor-X: I followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto - no more, no less.
[12:28] <Kyral> check your Bios settings
[12:28] <Kyral> bobbyd_: what is it?
[12:28] <n1nj4-TaNten> on http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic what is the second thing ubuntu supported packages
[12:28] <erUSUL> proxosi, ls /dev/hd*
[12:28] <chrisx1> hey where can i get curses/ncurses from
[12:28] <n1nj4-TaNten> should i marke the other 4 sqares
[12:29] <ubuntuking> hello all
[12:29] <n1nj4-TaNten> Packages
[12:29] <n1nj4-TaNten> sources
[12:29] <Razor-X> chrisx1: aptitude search curses
[12:29] <Kyral> n1nj4-TaNten: yah
[12:29] <bobbyd_> Kyral, bobbyd_ what's the easiest way to connect to a windows vpn from ubuntu?
[12:29] <proxosi> hd*?
[12:29] <MiSS_n00b> !tell MiSS_n00b about nvidia
[12:30] <Kyral> Everything before ALL REPOS BELOW THIS LINE are official and supported
[12:30] <n1nj4-TaNten> on my laptop how do i edit the soruce list now?
[12:30] <harfooz> hi all -- I got mplayer to work as the default player of the apple.com/trailers videos: moved the totem-related files from the mozilla plugins directory.
[12:30] <Kyral> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:30] <n1nj4-TaNten> oki sorry for asking what is sudo?
[12:31] <Kyral> ubotu: tell n1nj4-TaNten about RootSudo
[12:31] <siorai> okay, so how do I rip entire images, ie , ISO s?
[12:31] <mibIV> Razor-X: Perhaps if I reboot the system again?
[12:31] <Razor-X> mibIV: unfortunately, I'm going to have to leave for a bit
[12:31] <Kyral> n1nj4-TaNten: our friendly bot has provided a nice link
[12:31] <erUSUL> proxosi, * a shell wilcard
[12:31] <Kyral> !botsnack
[12:31] <ubotu> thanks kyral :)
[12:31] <mibIV> Razor-X: Ok. Thanks, anyway!
[12:31] <proxosi> erusul: i see hda hda1 2 5       hdc 1 2 5
[12:31] <Kyral> erUSUL: you mean the 50lb Unix Manuals?
[12:32] <Razor-X> Kyral: no, like reading man pages :)
[12:32] <chrisx1> Why Cant Linux Be As Easy As Windowz?
[12:32] <Kyral> ....
[12:32] <Kyral> chrisx1....
[12:32] <siorai> 'cause then linux would suck too
[12:32] <siorai> \; )
[12:33] <Kyral> I can be
[12:33] <Kyral> s/I/it
[12:33] <Razor-X> chrisx1: ``Why can't I get free money?''
[12:33] <erUSUL> Kyral, hdc is the second disc you were talking about, right?
[12:33] <Kyral> huh?
[12:33] <Kyral> wha?
[12:33] <chrisx1> u can
[12:33] <chrisx1> rob a bank?
[12:33] <djk_> Razor-X: because you're not good looking :p
[12:33] <Kyral> ....
[12:33] <Kyral> chrisx1: The reason I stick around now is because I believe in it
[12:33] <erUSUL> !enter
[12:33] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[12:34] <Kyral> I make a difference. I can't with MS
[12:34] <Comrade_Vladimir> any one have a m robe 500i here that can tell me about it
[12:34] <lordlucless> Net access appears slower on my newly-installed ubuntu box than my windows one. Anyone kno what could cause that?
[12:34] <Kyral> I think it may be a Firefox issue
[12:34] <Jowi> chrisx1: you just have to re-think since it is a different operating system. once you get use to it it will become second nature, just as windows appear for you now.
[12:34] <Kyral> chrisx1: I can't use Windows anymore
[12:34] <Kyral> I am serious
[12:35] <chrisx1> i find windows umm
[12:35] <lordlucless> Kyral, was that to me?
[12:35] <chrisx1> a little annoying
[12:35] <feugan3333> Does "apt-get --reinstall packageName" replace config files
[12:35] <Kyral> lordlucless: the first thing I said yes
[12:35] <chrisx1> the fact u cant run half the stuff u can on linux on windows
[12:35] <Kyral> feugan3333: no
[12:35] <lordlucless> ta, Ill whack in another browser and see if its better then
[12:36] <Kyral> feugan3333: sudo apt-get --reinstall install <packagename> does :D
[12:36] <ubun-newbie> how do i make a tcp connection
[12:36] <Kyral> ubun-newbie: what kind
[12:36] <feugan3333> Kyral: Thanks
[12:36] <lymz> hey folks, what's a good xml viewer?
[12:37] <erUSUL> lymz, emacs ;)
[12:37] <Kyral> lymz: uhh...Firefox?
[12:37] <chrisx1> lolz think my isp tryin to cut my net off
[12:37] <chrisx1> :P
[12:37] <ubun-newbie> tcp syn connection
[12:37] <erUSUL> lymz, mlview
[12:37] <Kyral> ubun-newbie: again what kind
[12:37] <Kyral> why
[12:37] <erUSUL> ubun-newbie, programming??
[12:37] <chrisx1> cos they was told to take payment from direct debit and havent
[12:37] <Jowi> lordlucless: i think you can change some settings in firefox; about:config for that. could also be that ubuntu's got ipv6 support set up. I heard some people say that ipv6 is the thief. i haven't seen the difference myself.
[12:37] <ubun-newbie> sort of
[12:37] <lymz> say i want to open an opendocument file, (which is xml), firefox didn't display it
[12:38] <chrisx1> so the bill hasnt been payed like they was told
[12:38] <chrisx1> but o well
[12:38] <chrisx1> they have trouble
[12:38] <erUSUL> lymz, have you unzipped it?
[12:38] <lymz> erUSUL, no, i didn't realize it was zipped
[12:39] <spola> and since he absolutely wanted to make music i decided to give him a street organ and a violin. the latter, he responded, sounds terrible and he happily walked away with the turning organ. and that, my friend, is the tragedy of the operating system
[12:39] <GTroy> ok this is gonna sound crazy, but how do I find my **user_name** as compared to my actual user name?
[12:39] <lordlucless> Jovi: Ta, Ill have a look at that
[12:39] <Kyral> GTroy: huh?
[12:39] <GTroy> told you it was gonna sound crazy
[12:39] <Jowi> GTroy: in a terminal "whoami"
[12:39] <Kyral> Yah it does lol
[12:39] <djk_> spola: what the deuce?
[12:39] <GTroy> Jowi: cool thanks
[12:40] <GTroy> that'll give me my actual user name?
[12:41] <erUSUL> GTroy, that give you the user the system thinks you are
[12:41] <Jowi> GTroy: ummm, i have the same loginname and username so i guess.... test it
[12:41] <GTroy> that's the way (I think) mine is setup too
[12:42] <Jowi> GTroy: "id -n" works too
[12:42] <spola> djk_, i dunno i always thinks thats appropriate when someone compains linux is harder than windows :-p
[12:43] <djk_> spola: oh, I prefer mentioning that Microsoft has the same abbreviation as Multiple Sclerosis. In a way, they are similar.
[12:43] <GTroy> Jowi: cool
[12:43] <Jowi> GTroy: id --help for more
[12:43] <ompaul> djk_, not really in line with the CoC
[12:43] <djk_> ompaul: uhm?
[12:44] <ompaul> we will out nice them
[12:44] <GTroy> Jowi: that's what I needed
[12:44] <Debian> people cant download files from my webserver why ??
[12:44] <Debian> its all locked
[12:45] <ompaul> djib,  https://launchpad.net/codeofconduct/1.0
[12:45] <djk_> ompaul: uhm, check out the symptoms of MS and what they may lead to and compare it to windows ;)
[12:45] <proxosi> yo guys.. hhow can i dl firefox?
[12:45] <proxosi> in ubuntu?
[12:45] <proxosi> or update or reinstall
[12:45] <ompaul> proxosi, it is there
[12:45] <spola> Debian, what error do you get ? does your apache have read access to the files ? not behind a firewall ?
[12:45] <proxosi> ompaul:  i know that
[12:46] <Jowi> proxosi: sudo apt-get install firefox
[12:46] <Jowi> proxosi: apt-get --help for more options
[12:46] <ompaul> proxosi, as Jowi said but I don't understand your first question now
[12:46] <Debian> spola, no the site works fine .. but people just cant download files
[12:47] <Debian> i dont know what access it has
[12:47] <Debian> and the error is ou don't have permission to access /802.rm on this server.
[12:47] <djib> ah, c'est pas pour moi
[12:47] <ompaul> !dr
[12:47] <ubotu> ompaul: I don't know, could you explain it?
[12:47] <ompaul> !fr
[12:47] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[12:47] <Jacque1> hello guy's. I've a problem with my display... if i go tho the console its somehow displaced... somebody an idea?
[12:47] <spola> Debian, whats in the apache error log ?
[12:48] <Jowi> Jacque1: are you using a LCD monitor or CRT?
[12:48] <ompaul> Jacque1, can you give more detail or a screenshot?
[12:48] <Jacque1> Jowi: lcd
[12:49] <djib> ompaul, what I meant is that someone accidentaly typed in my name
[12:49] <Jacque1> ompaul: how can i make a screenshot in the Console? Console like: Ctrl Alt F1...
[12:49] <Jowi> Jacque1: most LCD has got a "native" resolution. mine's got 1280x1024. the console is not a native resolution so it just guess a placement for it. press autoadjust on your display.
[12:49] <djib> but I also didn't realise that the chan was in English ;)
[12:49] <Debian> spola, i dont know where is it located?
[12:49] <lymz> thanks for that top erUSUL (unzip file)
[12:49] <lymz> errr tip
[12:49] <Jacque1> Jowi: mine is 1400x1050
[12:49] <spola> Jacque1, thats probably a problem with your video drivers, and since they're probably binary you're basically skruwt, i have the same problem with my ATI
[12:50] <spola> Debian, sheeesh google it pleaaase
[12:50] <Jacque1> Jowi: but i got the problem that i don't realy know my VertRefresh and HorizSync of the xorg...
[12:50] <erUSUL> lymz, np
[12:50] <MiSS_n00b> hi I have a primary slave drive, i have to be root to write to it can i change these permissions?
[12:50] <Jacque1> spola: Mine is also an ati...
[12:51] <spola> debian: but try /var/log/apache2/error.log
[12:51] <Debian> okay
[12:51] <Jowi> Jacque1: same there. the native resolution is what the display work in. it will support other resolutions but it does not support a text-resolution. that is normal. ALL LCD work with a VertRefresh of 60. HorizSync is not needed.
[12:51] <erUSUL> Jacque1, if it is lcd it really does not matter much
[12:51] <lsuactiafner> ATI is teh suck
[12:51] <ompaul> djib, sorry was trying to find the spelling of >>d'acor<< which I know is not right but you most likely know what I mean :-)
[12:51] <Debian> spola, [Thu Dec 08 01:40:51 2005]  [error]  [client 212.36.207.181]  (13)Permission denied: file permissions deny server access: /var/$
[12:51] <lsuactiafner> nvidia is best for nxi
[12:52] <spola> Jacque1, yeah i think yr screwed then, try to live with using konsole/gnome-terminal
[12:52] <Jacque1> is lcd equal tft?
[12:52] <djib> ompaul, yes ;)
[12:52] <djib> it is : d'accord
[12:52] <Jacque1> it's a laptop...
[12:52] <Jacque1> d'accord....
[12:52] <spola> but if you can fix it, let me know ;-)
[12:52] <Jacque1> :D
[12:52] <ompaul> djib, (just to continue the pun) ok
[12:52] <oxez> 
[12:52] <oxez> wow sorry
[12:53] <spola> Debian, re-check the permissions on DOCUMENT_ROOT/802.rm and make sure they end with "r--"
[12:53] <Debian> so man
[12:53] <djib> lol
[12:53] <ompaul> oxez, your okay, wow left the channel days ago
[12:53] <Jacque1> spola: what about installing the newest drivers of ati? do you think this could change it maybe?
[12:53] <Debian> spola how can i make them end with r--
[12:53] <Jowi> Jacque1: sorry, there is no fix for lcd's :-) you'll have to live with it if your monitor does not have a "autoadjust" or you might fix it by pressing the key-combinations on the keyboard that turn the monitor off/on.
[12:53] <Debian> all the www .. (or is it dangerous)
[12:53] <MiSS_n00b> any ideas people? i need to change my primary slave drive so that all users can write to it, not just root
[12:53] <djib> you wouldn't happen to know a cool software for editing videos ?
[12:53] <oxez> ompaul: what? lol
[12:53] <n1nj4-TaNten> when i have edited my source file with nano and i press save it says that i can't save it with that name
[12:53] <n1nj4-TaNten> ?
[12:53] <djib> I'm using vlc to record videos with my webcam
[12:53] <spola> Debian, nah not really, do chmod -R +r DOCUMENT_ROOT
[12:54] <djib> but I want to add music to it, and to shorten it
[12:54] <erUSUL> MiSS_n00b, how it is mounted? via fstab manually?
[12:54] <spola> Jacque1, i doubt that, i think im using the latest and "greatest" and it still doesnt work
[12:54] <Jowi> MiSS_n00b: in /etc/fstab options for the drive, add "umask=000"
[12:54] <djib> kino doen't seem to be able to import files
[12:54] <Debian> ok
[12:54] <MiSS_n00b> it mounts at boot
[12:54] <spola> never got it work on gentoo either
[12:54] <lordlucless> n1nj4-TaNten, Might be you dont have write permission for that file. Use sudo when editing that file
[12:54] <djib> my god this chan is busy
[12:54] <Jowi> MiSS_n00b: example: /dev/hda7       /media/data       vfat    defaults,umask=000        0       0
[12:55] <Jacque1> very unfortunate...
[12:55] <Jacque1> but actually doesn't matter... I will survive!
[12:55] <n1nj4-TaNten> i tried to use sudo i didn know what it was
[12:55] <n1nj4-TaNten> :S
[12:55] <spola> Jacque1, i dunno i dont really miss it ... although i wish there was a way to get gnome-terminal work in fullscreen but only because it looks l33t
[12:55] <lordlucless> try "sudo nano <yourfilename>"
[12:55] <n1nj4-TaNten> so i have to write everything from the start
[12:55] <lordlucless> It will ask you for your root password
[12:55] <erUSUL> !tell n1nj4-TaNten about sudo
[12:55] <n1nj4-TaNten> can i copy my stuff
[12:56] <MiSS_n00b> jowi can u plz explain in noob terms :P
[12:56] <MiSS_n00b> :(
[12:56] <Jowi> Jacque1: yeah, i'm in the same situation i'm afraid. my wifes laptop handle it so-so, but my 300 euro monitor doesn't quite. had to fiddle with the monitor buttons to adjust it manually
[12:56] <spola> lordlucless, root password? on ubuntu? unlikely ...
[12:56] <erUSUL> lordlucless, it will ask for your user pass
[12:56] <Jacque1> but i have also the problem that it flacers... how do you say...
[12:56] <chrisx1> Touch screen Fawked up my xserver
[12:56] <chrisx1> fixed now tho
[12:56] <Jacque1> es flackert... :)
[12:57] <Jowi> MiSS_n00b: yep. you will have to edit this file: /etc/fstab. the fstab file contain the info of what disks is mounted at boot and later. to make the disk you want writeable for everyone you need to add the "umask=000" to it
[12:57] <MiSS_n00b> ok
[12:57] <timmy334> I'm getting this when trying to startx: Skipping /usr/x11r6/lib/modules/extensions/libglcore.a no symbols found Fatal Server Error caught signal 4
[12:57] <MiSS_n00b> so gedit /etc/fstab?
[12:57] <Jowi> MiSS_n00b: in a terminal type "sudo nano /etc/fstab"
[12:57] <MiSS_n00b> ok
[12:57] <Jowi> MiSS_n00b: yeah, sudo gedit /etc/fstab works too
[12:58] <timmy334> anybody know why xorg on a fresh breezy install would be that borked?
[12:58] <Jowi> MiSS_n00b: use the editor you are most comfortable with
[12:58] <Jacque1> so, thank you for your help!
[12:58] <nat> hi
[12:58] <Jowi> you're welcome Jacque1
[12:59] <djib> so no one knows a good video editing software
[12:59] <djib> or how to import videos in kino
[12:59] <djib> avidemux and cinerella are not available in ubuntu
[12:59] <timmy334> djib, I think cinerella might be one
[12:59] <timmy334> lol
[12:59] <djib> I'm looking for something simple
[12:59] <djib> timmy334, ^^
[12:59] <djib> just like movie maker for example
[01:00] <MiSS_n00b> ok so it says "/dev/hdb1       /media/hdb1     ext3    defaults,users" , do i change it to say "/dev/hdb1       /media/hdb1     ext3    defaults,users unmask=000" ?
[01:00] <timmy334> I'd love to have your problem, I just did a FEW clean installs of Breezy and X refuses to work
[01:00] <Jowi> MiSS_n00b: "defaults,users,umask=000"
[01:00] <gleesond> how big should I make my swap partition on a 160g hard drive?
[01:00] <gleesond> I have one gig of ram
[01:00] <timmy334> gleesond, rule of thumb is 2x your RAM size
[01:01] <Jowi> MiSS_n00b: you have to be exact "unmask" doesn't mean a thing while "umask" does.
[01:01] <MiSS_n00b> ok thanks.  will i need to reboot before it applies the changes?
[01:01] <Kyral> gleesond: you don't need one
[01:01] <hyphenated> archaic and now inapplicable rule of thumb, that one
[01:01] <proxosi> hi guys
[01:01] <timmy334> true
[01:01] <erUSUL> MiSS_n00b, no
[01:01] <proxosi> im tryint to install flash on ff
[01:01] <djib> I'll trys cinerella
[01:01] <djib> I've just downloaded the rpm
[01:01] <timmy334> djib, good luck on that one
[01:01] <djib> thx timmy334
[01:02] <Jowi> MiSS_n00b: you can do "sudo umount /media/hdb1" and then "sudo mount -a"
[01:02] <Swe3tDave> timmy334, i understand  you.. i have a dual cpu system, and my computer hang with the ubuntu-smp kernel..
[01:02] <Argblat> can anyone suggest a KVM Switch to run Windows XP + Ubuntu 5.10?
[01:02] <proxosi> sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla << give me error E: Couldn't find package flashplayer-mozilla
[01:02] <djib> Nice fortune : The economy depends about as much on economists as the weather does on weather forecasters. -- Jean-Paul Kauffmann
[01:03] <janopotter> hola tengo un drama desde ayer y no lo puedo hacer
[01:03] <n1nj4-TaNten> it says that it dosnt know hat sudo is???
[01:03] <erUSUL> janopotter, vete a #ubuntu-es por favor esto es un canal en ingles
[01:03] <n1nj4-TaNten> i am using debain not ubuntu
[01:03] <n1nj4-TaNten> not ywt
[01:03] <djib> poningru, it's in multiverse
[01:03] <n1nj4-TaNten> yet
[01:04] <janopotter> thanks
[01:04] <djib> do you have that is your sources poningru
[01:04] <djib> ?
[01:05] <Jowi> n1nj4-TaNten: you must install sudo on some distros for it to work. 'sudo' is optional in Slackware as well.
[01:05] <n1nj4-TaNten> okay man how do i install it
[01:06] <n1nj4-TaNten> i have to do an update
[01:06] <n1nj4-TaNten> to get all the appz
[01:06] <djib> apt-cache search sudo n1c0las_
[01:06] <djib> n1nj4-TaNten,
[01:06] <n1nj4-TaNten> yea but i cant do apt-catch
[01:06] <djib> ?
[01:06] <n1nj4-TaNten> betcause i have to edit my soruce list
[01:06] <djib> oh
[01:06] <djib> you don't have any source ?
[01:07] <n1nj4-TaNten> my soruce list contains 1 link i think
[01:07] <Ophiocus> sweet, i locked myself out of internet, how can i remove things like samba and dhcp and dns servers?
[01:07] <n1nj4-TaNten> for some debian sorce
[01:07] <Ophiocus> and ip tables
[01:07] <binarydigit> is there anyway to parse fstab without rebooting
[01:07] <binarydigit> like source it someway
[01:07] <djib> n1nj4-TaNten, why sudo wouldn't be in it ?
[01:07] <n1nj4-TaNten> i can try
[01:07] <proxosi> sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla <<       give me error E: Couldn't find package flashplayer-mozilla
[01:07] <n1nj4-TaNten> brb
[01:08] <Jowi> binarydigit: sudo mount -a
[01:08] <binarydigit> thanks
[01:08] <djib> ProtectYaNeck, I asked you is you have added multiverse to your depots
[01:08] <Plazma> for my senior project i chose ubuntu as the OS for my MythTV box, i showed my instructor the power and capabilites of Ubuntu and he was thoroughly impressed, brought a smile to my face
[01:09] <doin2006> can sum1 help me please
[01:09] <djib> proxosi, I asked you is you have added multiverse to your depots
[01:09] <Jowi> doin2006: ask a precise question and you might be lucky
[01:09] <doin2006> can i get aol broadband to work on ubuntu
[01:10] <erUSUL> doin2006, the problem is?
[01:10] <Argblat> can anyone suggest a KVM Switch to run Windows XP + Ubuntu 5.10?
[01:10] <Plazma> Argblat, any should be just fine
[01:10] <dragoon> any kvm....
[01:10] <dragoon> i have some 20$ cheapo thing
[01:11] <n1nj4-TaNten> i typed apt-cache search sudo
[01:11] <dragoon> does 4x pcs no problem
[01:11] <Plazma> KVM's appear invisible anyway, so any should work
[01:11] <n1nj4-TaNten> i just doropped down 1 line
[01:11] <n1nj4-TaNten> and nothing happened
[01:11] <dragoon> sudo is installed default isnt it ?
[01:11] <n1nj4-TaNten> not on me
[01:11] <n1nj4-TaNten> :s
[01:11] <Jowi> n1nj4-TaNten: apt-get update
[01:11] <n1nj4-TaNten> i dont have it
[01:11] <doin2006> erUSUL im gonna install ubuntu but how do i get aol broadband to work on it
[01:11] <Kyral> ....
[01:11] <Kyral> AOL is the DEVIL
[01:11] <n1nj4-TaNten> should i do an update
[01:12] <dragoon> usb or ethernet connection
[01:12] <Jowi> n1nj4-TaNten: yes. so that apt reloads your sources.list
[01:12] <Razor-X> doin2006: if it works through a standard modem without special AOL crap through ethernet, you should be fine
[01:12] <Argblat> dragoon - would you mind telling me the switch you have...i don't want to spend any more money than I have to
[01:12] <T6> km weit weg wohnt?
[01:12] <n1nj4-TaNten> i have to change my source list
[01:12] <dragoon> um
[01:12] <n1nj4-TaNten> i dont want to have the appz in there
[01:12] <n1nj4-TaNten> how can i do it
[01:12] <n1nj4-TaNten> ?
[01:12] <dragoon> gimme a sec :)
[01:12] <Argblat> haha thanks
[01:12] <dragoon> this was $20 AU aswell :)
[01:12] <dragoon> bargin
[01:12] <doin2006> razor that must be a no then cause it has to use aol dialer software
[01:12] <Razor-X> i.e. you should be able to take the connection you have and plug it into a totally new Windows box, and have it work out of the box
[01:13] <Jowi> n1nj4-TaNten: why don't you just install ubuntu on another partition to try it out?
[01:13] <doin2006> DAMN
[01:13] <lordlucless> Anyone know a good reference for setting up bind?
[01:13] <Razor-X> doin2006: can you use standard Windows PPPoE?
[01:13] <dragoon> its a Zonet
[01:13] <doin2006> razor i dont know what you mean
[01:13] <n1nj4-TaNten> Jowi becaus i have just installed debain bevause i dont have any cd-rom
[01:13] <doin2006> how do i set that up
[01:13] <Razor-X> doin2006: google it, I suggest
[01:13] <Jowi> n1nj4-TaNten: ah. ok.
[01:14] <n1nj4-TaNten> and all i want is to edit my soruce.list
[01:14] <doin2006> ok thanks
[01:14] <dragoon> well use su ?
[01:14] <Razor-X> that's how I got about learning about the ethernet protocols when I first got ethernet, and Windows support is out of the scope of the channel
[01:14] <n1nj4-TaNten> but i won't let me
[01:14] <dragoon> well login as root ?
[01:14] <n1nj4-TaNten> okay but how do i change login
[01:14] <n1nj4-TaNten> ?
[01:14] <Razor-X> *ethernet DSL
[01:14] <dragoon> oh
[01:14] <dragoon> ubuntu?
[01:14] <n1nj4-TaNten> debian
[01:15] <dragoon> debian should ask you to specify a password
[01:15] <dragoon> in setup
[01:15] <n1nj4-TaNten> yea when i start
[01:15] <dragoon> for root
[01:15] <jvai> shyt.. i cant use nmap unless i'm root! i dont think it's safe to make a root account
[01:15] <Jowi> n1nj4-TaNten: if you can log in as root, why do you need sudo?
[01:15] <n1nj4-TaNten> but i enterd my account
[01:15] <n1nj4-TaNten> but i also have e root account
[01:15] <Razor-X> jvai: yeah you can
[01:15] <dragoon> well login as root
[01:15] <jvai> how?
[01:15] <dragoon> and ubuntu has a root account
[01:15] <Razor-X> jvai: simply ``nmap pramaters''
[01:15] <dragoon> just because you cant directly access it is another thing
[01:15] <n1nj4-TaNten> but how do i login as root
[01:16] <dragoon> type the username root ?
[01:16] <Kyral> You don't
[01:16] <jvai> the terminal nmap looks promising.. not the gui frontend tho
[01:16] <Razor-X> I believe -sS and some other scans don't work without having root privileges, but I don't remember all of 'em offhand
[01:16] <n1nj4-TaNten> hehe i know that but do i have ro restart my laptop
[01:16] <Razor-X> well yeah, I implied terminal nmap
[01:16] <n1nj4-TaNten> or can i enter something to change account
[01:16] <dragoon> no you dont
[01:16] <n1nj4-TaNten> ?
[01:16] <dragoon> just logout ?
[01:16] <jvai> oooo type "nmap parameters in term?
[01:16] <n1nj4-TaNten> command?
[01:16] <dragoon> exit logs out
[01:16] <n1nj4-TaNten> oki
[01:16] <Razor-X> jvai: not verbatim
[01:16] <n1nj4-TaNten> :D
[01:16] <Jowi> n1nj4-TaNten: if you can edit sources.list you already are root
[01:16] <jvai> lol
[01:16] <n1nj4-TaNten> thx
[01:16] <n1nj4-TaNten> i cant edit it yet
[01:16] <Razor-X> jvai: you need to pass the parameters you want
[01:16] <bushito> where can i get the bz2 archive program?
[01:16] <jvai> ooo
[01:17] <jvai> ok
[01:17] <dragoon> tar jxvf
[01:17] <Razor-X> jvai: open up the nmap manpage, and take a nice read
[01:17] <jvai> ok
[01:17] <jvai>  that's nmap -m?
[01:17] <Jowi> bushito: it's called bunzip2
[01:17] <Razor-X> simply ``man nmap''
[01:17] <jvai> oo ok
[01:17] <Razor-X> (unless you use some other sort of tool to view your nmap manpage)
[01:17] <erUSUL> bushito, apt-gat install bzip2
[01:18] <Razor-X> errr, manpages in general
[01:18] <bushito> ohhh!!! xD, lol my bad thx
[01:18] <jvai> gotit!! thx razor..
[01:18] <Razor-X> jvai: you've never used man before?
[01:19] <jvai> yes.. i have.. but the shortcuts on the man in the terminal.. dont make sense
[01:19] <erUSUL> !enter
[01:19] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[01:19] <Razor-X> jvai: hitting space to scroll down pages is insensible? :P
[01:19] <djib> configure: error: jpeglib.h not found - please install the libjpeg headers
[01:19] <MiSS_n00b> something stuffed up mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb1
[01:19] <Razor-X> and using the arrow keys seems to be supported to
[01:19] <djib> what package do you think I should install
[01:20] <jvai> nooo. when i try out the commands.. i alwayz get "command not found"
[01:20] <Jowi> djib: libjpeg most likely
[01:20] <jvai> like ":nmap-sP"
[01:20] <MiSS_n00b> hey a kiwi:D
[01:20] <djib> yes but there are many of them Jowi
[01:20] <Razor-X> jvai: .... you don't type that in
[01:20] <jvai> <-- learning
[01:20] <Razor-X> jvai: do you understand what a manpage is? :P
[01:20] <Jowi> djib: apt-cache search --names-only libjpeg
[01:20] <siorai> is there a way I can take OFF write protection ?
[01:21] <jvai> i know what it is..
[01:21] <djib> sorry they seem to be all dependant to one another anyway Jowi
[01:21] <Razor-X> jvai: then why are you passing it nmap-sP ?
[01:21] <MiSS_n00b> how do i edit that fstab thing again?
[01:21] <jvai> >:/
[01:21] <Jowi> djib: libjpeg62-dev is the one
[01:21] <jvai> <-- learning
[01:21] <Jowi> MiSS_n00b: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[01:21] <Razor-X> jvai: ``man man''
[01:21] <Nikopol> MiSS_n00b, you want the program to use or the ins and outs of how to setup fstab?
[01:22] <djib> yes, well I installed the mmx package and it installed this one Jowi
[01:22] <djib> thanks
[01:22] <jvai> ok
[01:22] <Razor-X> that's about as basic as it can get :)
[01:22] <MiSS_n00b> ty. jowi it wont mount after adding that user=000 thing
[01:22] <jvai> ok.. thnx razor
[01:22] <MiSS_n00b> nikopol im trying to make the slave drive so all users can write to it
[01:23] <Jowi> MiSS_n00b: it's because i told you to be precise. you should NOT add "user=000" you should add ",umask=000"
[01:23] <MiSS_n00b> yeah whatever it was
[01:23] <djib> my god cinerella is a pain to compile
[01:23] <Nikopol> MiSS_n00b. can you paste your fstab to the pastebin?
[01:24] <Razor-X> jvai: don't worry, we'll make an emacs convert out of you yet :P
[01:24] <MiSS_n00b>  this is the line /dev/hdb1       /media/hdb1     ext3    defaults,users,umask=000
[01:24] <MiSS_n00b> do u want the whole fstab
[01:24] <Nikopol> nah that's good
[01:24] <Nikopol> thanks
[01:24] <djib> it's user no ?
[01:24] <qt2> anyone have any aperience converting multiple avi's to mp3g 2 for use on one dvd?
[01:24] <djib> not users
[01:24] <Jowi> MiSS_n00b: did you remove the two "0        0" at the end of the line?
[01:24] <jvai> lol..
[01:25] <MiSS_n00b> no there wasnt any
[01:25] <Nikopol> MiSS_n00b, user not users ;)
[01:25] <qt2> lmao...
[01:25] <lordlucless> Can anyone suggest a good resource for understanding bind config?
[01:25] <MiSS_n00b> :S
[01:25] <Elektrochelovek> where ir can get recovery cd with grub?
[01:25] <dragoon> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/DNS-HOWTO.html
[01:25] <dragoon> check out that lordlucless
[01:25] <MiSS_n00b> i didnt change  anything except the umask=000 bit
[01:25] <lordlucless> ta
[01:25] <Nikopol> MiSS_n00b, I'm not sure it will work without the 0 0 at the end f the line
[01:25] <bobbyd_> ptpconfig should be in the Ubuntu distro
[01:26] <jvai> razor.. is using nmap from a terminal.. maore powerful than the frontend?
[01:26] <bobbyd_> pptpconfig even
[01:26] <Nikopol> Here's what one of my line looks like: /dev/hdb1       /files          ext2    rw,user         0       0
[01:26] <MiSS_n00b> ok lol so does it matter how many spaces are between the 0 0
[01:26] <dragoon> nope
[01:26] <Nikopol> MiSS_n00b, Dont' think so
[01:26] <MiSS_n00b> k and i'll change it from users to user then?
[01:26] <Nikopol> yep
[01:27] <Razor-X> jvai: generally, yeah
[01:27] <jvai> ok.. "uninstalling nmapfe"
[01:27] <Jowi> cu Nikopol
[01:27] <MiSS_n00b> ok ty brb
[01:27] <Razor-X> jvai: using anything from a terminal is generally more powerful, depends how comfortable you really are with the CLI
[01:27] <Nikopol> cya Jowi
[01:28] <jvai> i need to study more from CLI.... shyt .. batrry's dying.. & i'm in tryst.. & it's crowded!!
[01:28] <janopotter> buntu-es
[01:29] <Razor-X> tryst?
[01:29] <djib> is anyone using draper ?
[01:29] <jvai> it a cafe.. in dc.. w/ wifi
[01:29] <djib> I want to know if it is stable enough to be used as a desktop
[01:29] <jvai> in adams-morgan
[01:29] <Razor-X> Washington D.C. ?
[01:29] <jvai> yea
[01:30] <Plazma> jvai, CLI isnt to hard, just a lot to it
[01:30] <Plazma> at times
[01:30] <Razor-X> cool
[01:30] <Razor-X> the most effecient way to learn is to go 3 weeks X-less
[01:30] <Razor-X> but *nobody* wants to do that nowadays :)
[01:30] <Plazma> Razor-X, yea very true
[01:30] <jvai> i cant find an open outlet.. >:(
[01:30] <Plazma> i like my eye candy
[01:30] <jvai> peac peeps.. brb
[01:30] <Razor-X> Plazma: I love the CLI quite a bit, but urxvt just puts the fun back in terminal
[01:31] <proxosi> << have a problem....... cant see the other hd from secondary ide
[01:31] <Razor-X> I do go very minimalistic in X, generally, using ratpoison, urxvt, and a few other choise apps
[01:31] <Razor-X> (like a graphical web browser)
[01:31] <djib> and cinerella removes the fun from compiling...
[01:31] <Plazma> Razor-X, do you use the box as your main workstation?
[01:31] <Razor-X> Plazma: yeahp
[01:31] <Plazma> Razor-X, im a gamer and all around handy guy.. do web graphics, all that stuff
[01:32] <Razor-X> Plazma: ahh, I guess
[01:32] <Razor-X> I like to game when my schoolwork hands me the time
[01:32] <MiSS_n00b> its still not working :(
[01:32] <Razor-X> but other than that, I simply read manga or watch anime on the box, and listen to music, but other than that, I don't have much by the way of media
[01:32] <Plazma> Razor-X, well i try to find and make time when i can.. in fact my grandpa just bought us 2 small rc cars to chase our cats with.. gotta have fun once in a while
[01:33] <Razor-X> Plazma: it gets tough around 10th grade, next year is do-or-die for me
[01:33] <Plazma> Razor-X, so you use X just for those purposes.. ie the manga and stuff
[01:33] <Plazma> Razor-X, im a sr in college so i know more than what you mean
[01:33] <Razor-X> these two years are my college-determining years, so, yeah
[01:33] <Razor-X> :)
[01:33] <potus> can someone tell me the exact tar command to take a snapshop of my entire / ?
[01:33] <potus> keep gettings errors with /dev and such
[01:33] <Razor-X> Plazma: pretty much, and to make the terminal look pretty
[01:33] <Plazma> Razor-X, i have my senior project due in 10 weeks, but its going well so i should have it done by week 4
[01:33] <Razor-X> (a custom color scheme, basically)
[01:33] <proxosi> can some help me get to access my other hd in secondary main.. .BIOS able to see it there.. but linux cant
[01:33] <Razor-X> I do all my homework in the CLI, though
[01:34] <Plazma> Razor-X, yea? like typing papers and stuff
[01:34] <Razor-X> I guess my own thought patterns are suited *better* to the CLI, I'm not a very graphical person
[01:34] <mr_daemon> potus, tar cvjpf archive.tar.gz /
[01:34] <Razor-X> Plazma: yeahp, all that good stuff
[01:34] <Razor-X> although spreadsheets pose a challenge
[01:34] <potus> mr_daemon that will preserve ownerships and such?
[01:34] <Plazma> Razor-X, yea see im both.. i like my graphical stuff, and xorg and open office do wonders for me
[01:34] <mr_daemon> potus, That's what the "p" is for.
[01:35] <Razor-X> Plazma: X.Org is awesome, that I admit to. But O.o is a bit... overkill
[01:35] <mr_daemon> potus, And I screwed up, that should be tar.bz2
[01:35] <potus> mr_daemon: woohoo.. thanks sure
[01:35] <MiSS_n00b> what was the cmd to edit fstab again?
[01:35] <Razor-X> at this point, I simply use it to make my Japanese flash cards
[01:35] <MiSS_n00b> mine is so screwed
[01:35] <MiSS_n00b> :((
[01:35] <Plazma> Razor-X, OO is nice i think, nice free ms alternative
[01:35] <mr_daemon> potus: No problemo. I have backed up and restored to new drives countless machines that way. Works wonders.
[01:36] <Razor-X> Plazma: most of my documents are done in LaTeX, it's a pretty viable alternative to WYSIWYG, if you can take the initial learning curve (which isn't very hard at all)
[01:36] <potus> mr_daemon whats the extract command for that?
[01:36] <bushito> hhhmm, what files do i need for Ubuntu to identify and play mp3 and avi and all others popular extensions to run?
[01:36] <mkyb14> anyone install the ati drivers from the wiki page... its quite confusing
[01:36] <Nikopol> MiSS_n00b, sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[01:36] <mr_daemon> potus, Same, just replace the c with an x --> tar xvjpf archive.tar.bz2
[01:36] <Plazma> Razor-X, ahh, well i use many diff OS's as well, plus i like my gui
[01:36] <Fujitsu> I am sure that we can deconfuzzle t, mkyb14.
[01:36] <MiSS_n00b> ty. i dont know what i've done wrong but the drive wont mount now:(
[01:37] <potus> mr_daemon: so if my drive wipes i can just do cfdisk,  mount, tar, reboot?
[01:37] <bimberi> ubotu tell bushito about restricted
[01:37] <mkyb14> ?
[01:37] <Razor-X> Plazma: I also have a friend who offers a free SSH account to me, with a full LaTeX distribution
[01:37] <mr_daemon> potus, given you reinstall your grub, yes.
[01:37] <Razor-X> :)
[01:37] <Fujitsu> What is confusing you, mkyb14?
[01:37] <Razor-X> but yeah, GUI is GUI, CLI is CLI, it's your own choice
[01:37] <Nikopol> brb
[01:37] <Debian> mysql> CREATE DATABASE token;
[01:37] <Debian> Ignoring query to other database
[01:37] <Debian> why is that
[01:37] <mrkris> hiya, trying to get Apache2 setup with SSL. I created the SSL certs, put in /etc/ssl then symlinked the ssl.conf + ssl.load into mods-enabled -- what am I missing? (if anything)
[01:38] <jgrieves> are westill having hte gui versus cli debate
[01:38] <potus> cool..  sounds simple.. i'm doing this because i dont trust all this raid i been tring to setup.. i have a feeling something gonna go wrong soon
[01:38] <mr_daemon> potus, I have done this last week on my Quad Xeon server running Gentoo. I just put the livecd in, sftp over my tarball, and extract.
[01:38] <Plazma> jgrieves, not a debate, just random blurbs about each
[01:38] <Plazma> i personally like both
[01:38] <Plazma> thats just me
[01:38] <jgrieves> Plazma oh I see new people are here :)
[01:38] <Razor-X> jgrieves: I'm not debating, and I hope Plazma isn't, I go much more ferocious in a debate
[01:38] <Plazma> jgrieves, i pop in from time to time
[01:39] <jgrieves>  Razor-X gotcha
[01:39] <Plazma> Razor-X, same here.. im as bullheaded as a lawyer
[01:39] <Plazma> but im not debating
[01:39] <Razor-X> Plazma: heh
[01:39] <Plazma> just random shootin the breeze
[01:39] <n1nj4-TaNten> i have edited my source list now but i cant run apt-get update
[01:39] <Razor-X> like I said, it's what suits your style, I'm one of the odd few that work better with words and numbers
[01:39] <Razor-X> (and let me say, my art is attrocious)
[01:39] <jgrieves> you were shooting breezy...jerk
[01:39] <mr_daemon> potus, did this to enlarge the raid 5 array of one drive :P I did my archive that way though (in /): for i in * ; do tar cvzpf $i.tar.gz $i && md5sum $i.tar.gz > $i.tar.gz.md5 ; done
[01:39] <Razor-X> jgrieves: :D
[01:39] <Plazma> jgrieves, never :D
[01:39] <mrkris> anyone here use Apache2 + SSL under ubuntu ?
[01:40] <potus> mrkris: just apache2 and php
[01:40] <n1nj4-TaNten> i runts throw a lot of text and gives an error something E:
[01:40] <william> How do I enable 3d graphic card acceleration?
[01:40] <mrkris> potus, i'm trying to figure out why i can't get SSL to work
[01:40] <potus> mrkris: the trick is make the modules activate
[01:40] <potus> sec
[01:40] <Nikopol> MiSS_n00b, you still there?
[01:40] <mrkris> potus, i did the symlink from mods-available to mods-enabled
[01:40] <Razor-X> not that I don't mind games, but I prefer console gaming (save the FPS), personally
[01:41] <MiSS_n00b> yes
[01:41] <MiSS_n00b> did u get the PM
[01:41] <potus> mrkris: should work that was my prob with php took me long time to figure out hhe
[01:41] <Nikopol> MiSS_n00b, nope!
[01:41] <Nikopol> MiSS_n00b, weird
[01:41] <Nikopol> do it here
[01:41] <MiSS_n00b> ohh:-S
[01:41] <Plazma> Razor-X, FPS is what i do best :d
[01:41] <MiSS_n00b> i typed lots lol
[01:41] <MiSS_n00b> Mount error : unable to mount the selected volume. The volume is probably in a format that cannot be mounted
[01:41] <Nikopol> ah :(
[01:41] <n1nj4-TaNten> any i know how to fix the apt-get to work
[01:41] <bretzel> n
[01:41] <potus> Plazna: try call of duty 2 for 360?
[01:41] <bretzel> hhh+++++++++++++++
[01:42] <Razor-X> Plazma: UT is my forte :)
[01:42] <potus> i played it b4 i sold it.. sweet!
[01:42] <proxosi> how i list the hd i have ?
[01:42] <n1nj4-TaNten> potus i have
[01:42] <bretzel> gggg<oiuuuuuuuuuuy 9'// cu
[01:42] <Nikopol> MiSS_n00b, that sounds like your drive is not ext3
[01:42] <Plazma> potus, nah i dont have an xbox360.. i just bought a dreamcast though.. its rekindling my love of console gaming
[01:42] <bretzel> |?  brffffff
[01:42] <proxosi> nvm
[01:42] <MiSS_n00b> wrong fs type, bad option, bad super block on /dev/hdb1  missing codepage or other error
[01:42] <MiSS_n00b> EXT3-fs: Unrecognized mount option "umask=000" or missing value
[01:42] <MiSS_n00b> oh :-S
[01:42] <Plazma> Razor-X, yea UT is mine as well.. also bf1942
[01:42] <Kyral> MiSS_n00b: EXT3 doesn't have t hat option
[01:42] <jvai> heey, bac. i "social engineer'd" an outlet for the box
[01:42] <Nikopol> MiSS_n00b, without the umasl what does it do?
[01:42] <MiSS_n00b> it was working before, i am trying to make it writable by all users
[01:42] <proxosi> yo guys.. ubuntu dont recognize my hd in fdisk -l
[01:43] <Kyral> MiSS_n00b: the EXT3 FS doesn't have that option
[01:43] <MiSS_n00b> someone told me to add that umask so i could write to it without being root
[01:43] <Kyral> only vfat
[01:43] <Razor-X> Plazma: appreciate them CS folks for what they are, teh best demmed slow pokers in the world :P
[01:43] <djib> sig... all this effort of compiling cinerella for this : Segmentation fault
[01:43] <Razor-X> ok, sorry for the horrible UT-biased joke
[01:43] <mr_daemon> Say, while i'n there, I have a Maxtor external drive, USB2, 80gb. It's one of those OneTouch things. 1) Is there a way to use the button on the front? 2) The drive no longer automounts. It is detected, I can mount it, but dbus and friends no longer mount it to my desktop. Any ideas?
[01:43] <Nikopol> MiSS_n00b, nah remove the umask
[01:43] <MiSS_n00b> ok then
[01:43] <Nikopol> Ok here's mine again
[01:43] <MiSS_n00b> so is there any way that i can make it writable by all users?
[01:43] <Plazma> food time.. bbl
[01:43] <Nikopol> adapt it to your situation
[01:44] <Nikopol> MiSS_n00b, yes :D
[01:44] <something_else> what software exists to play dvb that dont hang if unclear signal and handle the channel conf files appropriately?
[01:44] <MiSS_n00b> ok cool
[01:44] <something_else> are there any gtk based dvb players?
[01:44] <potus> dvb players for linux?
[01:44] <qt2> 3023 - 9668
[01:44] <qt2> ack
[01:44] <Nikopol> MiSS_n00b, try putting rw,before users
[01:44] <potus> something_else: i wanna know more!
[01:44] <proxosi> how i do the mount thingy
[01:44] <Nikopol> MiSS_n00b, like rw,user
[01:44] <something_else> yes potus, so do i
[01:45] <something_else> ive got a dvb receiver
[01:45] <qt2> something_else, xine is gtk based, i believe.
[01:45] <Xenguy> !mount
[01:45] <ubotu> mount is probably the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[01:45] <qt2> oh, dvb.
[01:45] <something_else> it works with xine, but no channel configuration
[01:45] <potus> something_else: can i im u?
[01:45] <something_else> sure
[01:45] <mr_daemon> Anyone?
[01:45] <proxosi> i am trying to make it writable by all users
[01:45] <proxosi> proxosi yo guys.. ubuntu dont recognize my hd in fdisk -l
[01:45] <proxosi> proxosi@ProXOSi:~$ sudo mount /dev/hdc1
[01:46] <something_else> xine plays dvb so does mplayer but you have to specify channel each time
[01:46] <proxosi> mount: can't find /dev/hdc1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[01:46] <proxosi> wat i have to add on fstab for hdc1?
[01:46] <Xenguy> !fstab
[01:46] <ubotu> the /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the winmac_fstab file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab  See <partitions>.
[01:46] <MiSS_n00b> ok does this look right now ? /dev/hdb1       /media/hdb1     ext3    defaults,rw,user 0 0
[01:46] <Xenguy> winmac?
[01:46] <Nikopol> MiSS_n00b, looks right
[01:46] <MiSS_n00b> cool. so i reboot?
[01:46] <Nikopol> MiSS_n00b, no
[01:47] <Nikopol> MiSS_n00b, mount /media/hdb1
[01:47] <Xenguy> hrm
[01:47] <oxez> on linux, rebooting is for: kernel upgrade, adding hardware, or powerouttage :P
[01:47] <n1nj4-TaNten> could not open lock file
[01:47] <n1nj4-TaNten> what does that mean
[01:47] <n1nj4-TaNten> ?
[01:47] <n1nj4-TaNten> code 13 or something
[01:47] <MiSS_n00b> ok sweet, i can read it, but still cant write:-S
[01:47] <fishnogeek> ok, first timer in here:  i hit a weird problem trying to install Breezy on an IBM ThinkPad T21.....it couldn't install the kernel.....anybody seen that?
[01:47] <Nikopol> MiSS_n00b, argh!
[01:48] <Hobbsee> n1nj4-TaNten: got synaptic/another window of apt-get open?
[01:48] <Nikopol> erm lemme think
[01:48] <djk_> n1nj4-TaNten: are you trying to apt-get something while synaptic is open?
[01:48] <Nikopol> ah ok maybe the files have been created by root?
[01:48] <n1nj4-TaNten> what is synaptic
[01:48] <n1nj4-TaNten> ?
[01:48] <Nikopol> MiSS_n00b, were they?
[01:48] <MiSS_n00b> yes
[01:48] <Xenguy> !tell n1nj4-TaNten about synaptic
[01:48] <goose> my soundcard was not seated properly while i was installing ubuntu. now that i've seated it properly and it's properly detected by the kernel (lspci good) is there a gui-fied way of activating that soundcard in ubuntu?
[01:48] <mr_daemon> !awk
[01:48] <ubotu> mr_daemon: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[01:49] <proxosi> would /dev/hdc1	/media/hdc1	ntfs	defaults,umask=0222	0	0 for my secondary hd?
[01:49] <n1nj4-TaNten> i only have console
[01:49] <proxosi> it its ntfs
[01:49] <Nikopol> Well now you have to change the writing rights
[01:49] <n1nj4-TaNten> nothing else
[01:49] <n1nj4-TaNten> i have edited my soruce list
[01:49] <mr_daemon> !dbus
[01:49] <ubotu> mr_daemon: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[01:49] <william> Why doesn't anyone know?
[01:49] <MiSS_n00b> thats what i want to do:P
[01:49] <Nikopol> MiSS_n00b, ok
[01:49] <n1nj4-TaNten> and now i want to run apt-get
[01:49] <Nikopol> MiSS_n00b, suppose you have a folder X
[01:49] <dragoon> goose alsaconf
[01:49] <n1nj4-TaNten> but i get the error message
[01:49] <djk_> william: know what
[01:49] <MiSS_n00b> yup
[01:50] <Nikopol> MiSS_n00b, this will be at /media/hdc1/X
[01:50] <MiSS_n00b> well i cant even create a newfolder on that drive
[01:50] <MiSS_n00b> ok
[01:50] <Nikopol> you are happy with anyone wirting anything on that drive?
[01:50] <MiSS_n00b> yup
[01:50] <Hobbsee> n1nj4-TaNten: shut the console, then open it again?
[01:50] <Nikopol> MiSS_n00b, ok that makes it a lot simpler
[01:50] <william> I am trying to play games in Linux, but they're awfully slow since I don't have 3d hardware acceleration enabled
[01:50] <Nikopol> MiSS_n00b, do the foillowing
[01:50] <n1nj4-TaNten> it is like dos
[01:50] <william> The card is supported, it's a Radeon 9700.
[01:50] <n1nj4-TaNten> i cant shut i down
[01:50] <n1nj4-TaNten> :s
[01:51] <n1nj4-TaNten> when i start the laptop i enter the prompt
[01:51] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[01:51] <n1nj4-TaNten> and thats all
[01:51] <djk_> william: then install the ati drivers to enable that..
[01:51] <n1nj4-TaNten> and now i want to run apt-get
[01:51] <goose> dragoon ok =) so it's old school alsaconf then
[01:51] <Nikopol> MiSS_n00b, chmod -R 777 /media/...
[01:51] <bimberi> ubotu tell william about ati
[01:51] <william> I installed the ATI drivers.
[01:51] <Nikopol> MiSS_n00b, replace the ... with the full path ;)
[01:51] <goose> hmm i guess i have to install alsautils for that
[01:51] <MiSS_n00b> full path to the drive?
[01:51] <fishnogeek> william:  have you seen all the links about the ATI fixes?  fglrx stuff?
[01:51] <Xenguy> n1nj4-TaNten: if you type this at the prompt, what output do you get -> startx
[01:51] <Nikopol> MiSS_n00b, yes
[01:52] <n1nj4-TaNten> brb ill check
[01:52] <Hobbsee> n1nj4-TaNten: try "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock" and it should work fine
[01:52] <Nikopol> MiSS_n00b, in your case /media/hdc1
[01:52] <fishnogeek> ok, never mind....
[01:52] <MiSS_n00b> b
[01:52] <fishnogeek> that's as far as i got
[01:53] <Nikopol> MiSS_n00b, so? can you create a folder there now?
[01:53] <proxosi> can somebody guide me to mount a extra hd?
[01:53] <potus> how can i take GDM out of initd so the only login it boots to is console?
[01:53] <goose> dragoon: where is alsaconf :-\
[01:53] <Nikopol> proxosi, what is the probelm?
[01:53] <Hobbsee> !tell proxosi abotu mount
[01:54] <proxosi> i want to mount a secondary hd
[01:54] <Hobbsee> proxosi: you might find a link in your pm's useful
[01:54] <proxosi> !tell proxosi about mount
[01:54] <MiSS_n00b> ok if i do it like this: melz@ubuntu:~$ chmod -R 777 /media/hdb1  it says chmod: changing permissions of `/media/hdb1': Operation not permitted
[01:55] <coz>  is anyone familiar with layla24 and if so do you know where to get drivers for it?
[01:55] <MiSS_n00b> oh nvm
[01:55] <MiSS_n00b> duh
[01:55] <bimberi> potus: sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[01:55] <Hobbsee> MiSS_n00b: stick sudo in front of it
[01:55] <Nikopol> MiSS_n00b, so it as sudo
[01:55] <Hobbsee> lol
[01:55] <Nikopol> beat to it:D
[01:55] <Hobbsee> :P
[01:55] <MiSS_n00b> hehe not called n00b for nuthin ;)
[01:55] <MiSS_n00b> ty ty it works now
[01:55] <Hobbsee> MiSS_n00b: you'll learn it all fast enough
[01:55] <Nikopol> MiSS_n00b, yes :D
[01:55] <goose> hmm fascinating 5.10 does not have alsaconf
[01:55] <MiSS_n00b> will i be able to send files thru ssh from my windoze box straight to that drive?
[01:55] <Nikopol> MiSS_n00b, don't use chmod too lightly
[01:56] <Nikopol> MiSS_n00b, sure
[01:56] <MiSS_n00b> cool
[01:56] <Nikopol> MiSS_n00b, as long as your logged in as a local user
[01:56] <MiSS_n00b> thank you so much :D
[01:56] <mkyb14> what's a decient movie player for linux ...vlc? and a mp3 player?
[01:56] <Kyral> VLC
[01:56] <djk_> vlc, kaffeine,mplayer..
[01:56] <Nikopol> MiSS_n00b, glad it worked in the ende :D
[01:56] <OgMaciel> MiSS_n00b, tried WinSCP?
[01:56] <coz> Totoem-xine
[01:56] <djk_> amarok for mp3 ;)
[01:56] <Kyral> Beep Media Player handles MP3 out of the boxx
[01:56] <proxosi> nikopol: would u help me mount?
[01:56] <MiSS_n00b> yes i use winscp
[01:56] <coz> not mplaye
[01:56] <coz> not vlc
[01:56] <Nikopol> proxosi, ok
[01:56] <coz> only totem-xine
[01:56] <OgMaciel> MiSS_n00b, cool
[01:57] <mkyb14> ok what's the most popluar mp3 player
[01:57] <djk_> amarok
[01:57] <Kyral> Don't ask that
[01:57] <proxosi> nikopol: i mounted one a partition that shares with ubuntu
[01:57] <Kyral> it will start a flamewar
[01:57] <Nikopol> proxosi, yes
[01:57] <Kyral> I prefer Beep Media Player myself
[01:57] <proxosi> nikopol: now i want to mount another hd that have files already (ntfs)
[01:57] <mkyb14> well i'm used to winamp
[01:57] <coz> THE best movie player is totem-xine period
[01:57] <mkyb14> and xamp is eh
[01:57] <proxosi> nikopol: its call hdc5
[01:57] <djk_> mkyb14: then you might like xmms
[01:57] <Hobbsee> amarok, every time
[01:57] <Nikopol> proxosi, do you know how to edit /etc/fstab?
[01:57] <proxosi> nikopol: i tried to do all previous steps but it doesnt work
[01:57] <Nikopol> ok I'll take you through it
[01:57] <proxosi> nikopol: a bit.. i think i enter wrong values
[01:58] <coz> beep in place of win amp
[01:58] <proxosi> so the first was /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[01:58] <mkyb14> yea i tried xmms but there is no mp3 support
[01:58] <mkyb14> you have to get that somehow
[01:58] <proxosi> then i tried on my own on the secondary hd by
[01:58] <Kyral> BMP has it out of the box
[01:58] <proxosi> copy paste but changed
[01:58] <Nikopol> proxosi, I think it will be fster if you paste it to pastebin
[01:58] <proxosi> oops
[01:58] <coz> Beep media player for mp3
[01:58] <proxosi> ok
[01:58] <proxosi> emm wat the link for pastebin?
[01:59] <Nikopol> erm
[01:59] <Nikopol> !pastebin
[01:59] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[01:59] <Nikopol> voila :)
[01:59] <coz> For mp3 use beep media player uses winamp and xmms skins
[01:59] <proxosi> wat type i choose? php?
[02:00] <coz> for the best movie player use totem-xine ONLY
[02:00] <Kyral> coz or just XINE
[02:00] <mkyb14> says it can't find the package "beep"
[02:00] <coz> xine is a little buggy on ubuntu
[02:00] <Kyral> coz: thats BS
[02:00] <Nikopol> sorry?
[02:00] <Kyral> I use it all the time no problem
[02:00] <TeLeKiNeSiS> What's the command to uncompress a tar.gz file?
[02:00] <coz> no it's not
[02:00] <coz> I have tried them
[02:00] <coz> xone alone is buggy
[02:00] <coz> xibne
[02:00] <n1nj4-TaNten> Hobbsee i couldn't remove it
[02:00] <proxosi> it ask me what to use for highlighting?
[02:00] <coz> xine
[02:01] <Nikopol> oh nothing
[02:01] <proxosi> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/453368
[02:01] <coz> damn fingers
[02:01] <proxosi> nvm
[02:01] <Kyral> so because its bad for you...
[02:01] <n1nj4-TaNten> when i enter as root
[02:01] <Hobbsee> n1nj4-TaNten: why not?
[02:01] <Kyral> let the user try :P
[02:01] <kenichi> TeLeKiNeSiS: tar -xzf file.tgz
[02:01] <n1nj4-TaNten> its not there
[02:01] <bimberi> TeLeKiNeSiS: tar xvzf <file>
[02:01] <mkyb14> is there a website where  i can search the archives for a package name because i dont' know the command for apt
[02:01] <TeLeKiNeSiS> hmmm
[02:01] <proxosi> nikopol: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/453368 last line.. i add that myself... i think taht the problem
[02:01] <n1nj4-TaNten> i cant use sudo i dont have it installed
[02:01] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell n1nj4-TaNten  about root
[02:01] <coz> the most compatible is totem-xine yeah go ahead and try them all
[02:01] <TeLeKiNeSiS> didn't work earlier but I'll give it another go
[02:01] <TeLeKiNeSiS> Thanks Kenichi and bimberi
[02:01] <Hobbsee> mkyb14: packages.ubuntu.com or apt-cache search
[02:01] <Kyral> coz: Most poeple I talk to swear by VLC actually
[02:01] <bimberi> TeLeKiNeSiS: np :)
[02:01] <kenichi> np
[02:01] <TeLeKiNeSiS> :)
[02:01] <Nikopol> proxosi, add an extra return at the end of the last line
[02:02] <coz> vlc is the worlst on anuylinux
[02:02] <coz> worst
[02:02] <Kyral> coz no fight
[02:02] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell n1nj4-TaNten  about sudo
[02:02] <coz> on any linux
[02:02] <Kyral> its your opinion
[02:02] <n1nj4-TaNten> gnomefreak i alredy know
[02:02] <Kyral> doesn't mean its right
[02:02] <Kyral> doesn't mean I'm right
[02:02] <n1nj4-TaNten> how is that suppose to help
[02:02] <Nikopol> proxosi, why umask=0222
[02:02] <coz> no its not vlc is best on windows it is remarkable on ubuntu or any other linux it is lame
[02:02] <Kyral> ....
[02:02] <Kyral> coz use neutral langauge
[02:03] <mkyb14>  how do you run the command "./ati-driver-installer-8.14.13.run" in terminal
[02:03] <coz> I speak english
[02:03] <Kyral> "worst" or "best" is a matter of opinion
[02:03] <jdkycdoc> hi everyone, i would like to know what is the best way to set up the nvidia driver in breezy, i have read that many people have had trouble with this. should i try the instruccions from the 5.04 ubuntu guide???
[02:03] <coz> not neutral
[02:03] <gnomefreak> n1nj4-TaNten,  if you read the sites ubotu gave you maybe give you an idea and also as for sudo not being installed there isnt much of a choice there
[02:03] <proxosi> nikopol: me noob.. me monkey see monkey doo
[02:03] <Kyral> I meant your tone
[02:03] <proxosi> so i copy paste watever
[02:03] <proxosi> emm
[02:03] <proxosi> so wat it should be?
[02:03] <dragoon> proxosi: rm -rf / will fix everything =)
[02:03] <n1nj4-TaNten> is it supos to work runing apt-get when you are loged in as root
[02:03] <n1nj4-TaNten> ?
[02:03] <Nikopol> proxosi, no!
[02:03] <Kyral> dragoon: NO!!!
[02:03] <coz> No its not worse or best on ubuntu is quite easily discovered
[02:03] <dragoon> lol jk
[02:04] <gnomefreak> n1nj4-TaNten,  what are you trying to do?
[02:04] <Nikopol> proxosi, don't do that
[02:04] <Kyral> coz:  thats yoru own opinion
[02:04] <Kyral> I think that KDE stinks
[02:04] <proxosi> ?????
[02:04] <n1nj4-TaNten> i am trying to run apt-get update
[02:04] <proxosi> ok
[02:04] <Kyral> does that mean it does? No
[02:04] <proxosi> wat will it do? kill my hd?
[02:04] <coz> No it is not vlc is buggy as xine on ubuntu I do the testing every day
[02:04] <coz>  it is bad
[02:04] <Nikopol> proxosi, he told you how to delete your entire harddirve
[02:04] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get update is the command
[02:04] <proxosi> o
[02:04] <proxosi> bad dragoon
[02:04] <Kyral> proxosi: rm -rf / will delete your HD
[02:04] <n1nj4-TaNten> yeas but id doesnt work
[02:04] <Nikopol> proxosi, so don't do it
[02:04] <proxosi> ok
[02:04] <proxosi> ok
[02:04] <proxosi> so wat i have to do?
[02:04] <Kyral> coz define buggy
[02:04] <Nikopol> proxosi, let's take it from the top
[02:04] <n1nj4-TaNten> i dont have sudo
[02:04] <n1nj4-TaNten> so i cant run sudo
[02:05] <mkyb14>  how do you run the command ".run" files
[02:05] <gnomefreak> n1nj4-TaNten,  what is ther error your getting?
[02:05] <proxosi> k
[02:05] <Kyral> n1nj4-TaNten: if you are root you don't need sudo
[02:05] <kenichi> jdkycdoc: any special application, or just setting up?
[02:05] <mkyb14> ./ati-driver-installer-8.14.13.run   ...?
[02:05] <coz> first it has fewer options that it does on windows and the options that it does have work occasionally
[02:05] <Nikopol> proxosi, do ls /media/
[02:05] <proxosi> as root or user?
[02:05] <Nikopol> either
[02:05] <n1nj4-TaNten> okay when i am root and i run apt-get update i get a long list of text
[02:05] <coz> on windows vlc is, as I said, quite remarkable for an open source program
[02:05] <eltree33> does anyone know what firewall knoppix loads at default?
[02:05] <jdkycdoc> kenichi, just setting up i havent done anything about it jet
[02:05] <mkyb14> sudo apt-get update
[02:05] <proxosi> cdrom  cdrom0  floppy  floppy0  hda1
[02:05] <Kyral> coz: I don't know about you but I only want the thing to play videos
[02:05] <gnomefreak> n1nj4-TaNten, thats what the command does it updates your sources list
[02:05] <coz> on linus it is one of the worse opwn source programs
[02:05] <n1nj4-TaNten> that says something could not connect to....
[02:05] <Nikopol> proxosi, there's your problem
[02:05] <proxosi> nikopol: cdrom  cdrom0  floppy  floppy0  hda1
[02:05] <proxosi>              << hd5 not there
[02:05] <eltree33> I tried asking in the knoppix forum but no seems to be chatting there
[02:05] <kenichi> jdkycdoc: have you already installed it?
[02:05] <Kyral> coz please stop
[02:05] <coz> then you need totem-xine
[02:06] <Nikopol> proxosi, yeah
[02:06] <proxosi> nikopol: ok.... so...
[02:06] <Kyral> coz: No you don't
[02:06] <Nikopol> proxosi, create it :)
[02:06] <gnomefreak> n1nj4-TaNten,  than something is wrong with your sources list
[02:06] <coz> No Kyral YOU stop
[02:06] <Kyral> for me Xine alone runs fine
[02:06] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell n1nj4-TaNten  about sources
[02:06] <Nikopol> proxosi, sudo /media/hdb5
[02:06] <Nikopol> proxosi, no
[02:06] <Kyral> coz: I'm not the one spewing my opinion like its the only true thing
[02:06] <guillen> i have a problem, im trying to install skype but it depends on a library called libqt3c102-mt
[02:06] <Nikopol> proxosi, sudo mkdir /media/hdb5
[02:06] <n1nj4-TaNten> i was at a page and the page did the source list for me
[02:06] <Kyral> For you VLC may be buggy
[02:06] <Nikopol> proxosi, mkdir makes a directory
[02:06] <coz> I am not giving eopinions I am telling the best appls for ubuntu
[02:06] <Kyral> doesn't mean it is for everyone
[02:06] <mkyb14> i know one of you sexy bitches knows if debian can run the .run files
[02:06] <gnomefreak> n1nj4-TaNten,  was it source o matic?
[02:06] <n1nj4-TaNten> yeas
[02:07] <coz> the others are at the least buggy and irritating to work with
[02:07] <proxosi> hdb5? or hdc5?
[02:07] <Kyral> that is, like everything in Linux, a matter of opinion
[02:07] <kenichi> jdkycdoc: have you already installed it?
[02:07] <coz> if you like xine use it
[02:07] <ernie_> hello, does anyone know what the reccomended minimum requirements for breezy badger are?
[02:07] <guillen> i tried to install that library but it seem like theres an older version installed
[02:07] <gnomefreak> n1nj4-TaNten,  what ubuntu version do you have?
[02:07] <n1nj4-TaNten> i dont have ubuntu
[02:07] <n1nj4-TaNten> i have debian
[02:07] <Nikopol> proxosi, another thing you need to do is add an empty line at the end of fstab
[02:07] <jdkycdoc> kenichi, no, not jet i am not completely sure of whether i should go for it trough synaptic or download it from nvidia website
[02:07] <n1nj4-TaNten> i have a basic debian install
[02:07] <gnomefreak> n1nj4-TaNten,  try #debian than
[02:07] <n1nj4-TaNten> and now i want to install ubuntu
[02:07] <coz> Kyarl I am testin g ubuntu to switch my sinwos users over to it
[02:07] <n1nj4-TaNten> but i want to install ubuntu
[02:07] <eltree33> does all linux distros boot with a firewall enabled??
[02:07] <proxosi> nikopol: ok..... but i type hdc5 instead of hdb5
[02:07] <proxosi> ??
[02:08] <Kyral> coz: don't say "best"
[02:08] <gnomefreak> n1nj4-TaNten,  to install ubuntu you need the disk you cant change the sources to upgrade to ubuntu
[02:08] <william> Another question since I fixed up my video driver.:)
[02:08] <Kyral> give all the options
[02:08] <william> How do I use 4.1 speakers?
[02:08] <Kyral> but if you must say something liek "But it was buggy for me"
[02:08] <Nikopol> proxosi, yeah
[02:08] <kenichi> jdkycdoc:  take the one from synaptic. im using it too, and have set up dual screen with it
[02:08] <kenichi> works fine
[02:08] <coz> The apps like vlc and xone are not adeqauate enough for the typical home user. They are at best buggy and difficult
[02:08] <Nikopol> proxosi, sorry my mistake
[02:08] <mkyb14> so was that a yes on running .run files? and how
[02:08] <mrkris> potus, still here?
[02:08] <n1nj4-TaNten> gnomefreak i have read that it is possible
[02:08] <coz> xine
[02:08] <Nikopol> proxosi, so have you added an empty line at the end of the file?
[02:08] <proxosi> yes
[02:08] <Kyral> jeez
[02:08] <gnomefreak> n1nj4-TaNten,  it might be but i will never suggest it since the sources are not even close to the same
[02:08] <n1nj4-TaNten> ubuntu is build on debian
[02:08] <Nikopol> proxosi, good
[02:09] <coz> Fo r the homw use , put in a dvd and totne-xine opens and plys it
[02:09] <gnomefreak> and you risk breaking system
[02:09] <Kyral> the home user wants to play videos
[02:09] <proxosi> ok done
[02:09] <ernie_> vlc is buggy on ubuntu?  It ran great in windows for me
[02:09] <coz> not vlc, not xine sometimes
[02:09] <proxosi> on both things you told me
[02:09] <Nikopol> proxosi, let's mount the new hard drice
[02:09] <Kyral> Then say for DVD
[02:09] <kenichi> jdkycdoc: and its easier to install and to remove
[02:09] <coz> they aren't as reliable
[02:09] <proxosi> ok command is?
[02:09] <door> hello? just a quick question...does anyone know how to permanently exchange the left control and caps lock buttons but not just in X?
[02:09] <Nikopol> proxosi, sudo mount /dev/hdc5
[02:09] <jdkycdoc> kenichi, so just get from synaptic and also the settings package, installthem and should be ok, right?
[02:09] <Kyral> but for normal AVI or OGM it works FINE
[02:09] <lordlucless> Im using dig to try and test out my changes to the bind config, and Im having a bit of a problem. dig is responding with "got answer", but it is not displaying the Answer Section, or the Authority section
[02:09] <kenichi> jdkycdoc: should be
[02:09] <coz> Perhaps kyral
[02:09] <Nikopol> proxosi, so?
[02:09] <Kyral> and I'm going now. Please stop being so opinionated
[02:10] <proxosi> done
[02:10] <coz> but for home users totem-xine is the only wayt o go
[02:10] <lordlucless> Ive had a look in man dig, but couldnt see anything to force display of those sections. Anyone help me with that?
[02:10] <gallonegro_> is their a tutrial to convert from dvix to dvd?
[02:10] <proxosi> thank you very much
[02:10] <Nikopol> cd /media/hdc5
[02:10] <gnomefreak> n1nj4-TaNten, just because ubuntu is based on debian does not mean they are same in any way shape or form
[02:10] <Nikopol> and ls
[02:10] <Nikopol> is everything there?
[02:10] <coz> they are more the same than not
[02:10] <proxosi> seem to be
[02:10] <lordlucless> I assume it's something Im doing wrong with dig, as it's responding with "got answer" - its just not showing it
[02:10] <proxosi> thanks alot
[02:10] <jdkycdoc> kenichi, thanks a lot ill try and ill be back to tell you how it goes
[02:10] <Nikopol> proxosi, no problem
[02:10] <proxosi> btw
[02:10] <Nikopol> proxosi, yes?
[02:10] <n1nj4-TaNten> gnomefreak but i have read that i guy did it this way
[02:11] <n1nj4-TaNten> and it worked for him
[02:11] <kenichi> jdkycdoc: you can check it by looking into /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:11] <proxosi> how do u install flash on firefox? is there mediaplyaer classic +codec for ubuntu
[02:11] <brenner> door: no clue how, but you've got me interested...why would you?
[02:11] <ernie_> has anyone installed Ubuntu and found the networking to be extremely slow after doing so?
[02:11] <proxosi> wen i google flash on firefox ubuntu.. i did the command
[02:11] <proxosi> but it gave me a darn error
[02:11] <Nikopol> proxosi, erm not sure
[02:11] <lordlucless> ernie_, yep, Im having that problem
[02:11] <coz> gnomefreak have you installed the base debian?
[02:11] <dragoon> its fine here
[02:11] <coz> the install for ubuntu and debian are identical
[02:11] <door> slow computer...i think it might work better if it was just changed all over
[02:11] <dragoon> might be a problem wit your network card modules ?
[02:11] <djk_> proxosi: just download the flashplayer installer and open a terminal and run it..
[02:12] <ernie_> lordlucless what ethernet card are you using?
[02:12] <proxosi> so i drag it?
[02:12] <gnomefreak> n1nj4-TaNten, to do it you need ubuntus sources list than apt-get update than apt-get dist-upgrade but im not by any means saying it is recommended or workable
[02:12] <proxosi> to the terminal?
[02:12] <gnomefreak> coz i have debian on hdb
[02:12] <lordlucless> ernie_, not sure, just got the computer yesterday
[02:12] <Nikopol> proxosi, download it anywhere
[02:12] <coz> so what do you see the difference as being?
[02:12] <n1nj4-TaNten> gnomefreak that is what im trying to do
[02:12] <Nikopol> proxosi, but install it from the terminal
[02:12] <ernie_> dragoon, i am thinking it may be an unsupported network card
[02:12] <n1nj4-TaNten> i have the debian source list
[02:12] <dragoon> ah
[02:12] <n1nj4-TaNten> i have typed in all by myself
[02:13] <lordlucless> Anyone know anything about my bind problem?
[02:13] <gnomefreak> coz dude i see a huge difference in ubuntu and debian only thing i can say i see as same is commands and some packages
[02:13] <n1nj4-TaNten> but i can't run apt-get update
[02:13] <ernie_> dis ubuntu plug and olay somewhat?
[02:13] <ernie_> oops play
[02:13] <coz> the install is identical
[02:13] <mkyb14> i got an installer that is a ".run" file .... how do i execute this in the terminal
[02:13] <Nikopol> proxosi, you may want to change fstab so that it mounts the hard disk automaricallly
[02:13] <gnomefreak> yes install is but after that nothing is same
[02:13] <dragoon> sh runfile.run
[02:13] <gnomefreak> all debian distros use same installer
[02:13] <proxosi> nikopol: how?
[02:13] <bushito> how do i know whats my gnome version?
[02:13] <gnomefreak> n1nj4-TaNten,  you need to have ubuntu sources to do it
[02:13] <n1nj4-TaNten> gnomefreak but i only want ubuntu
[02:13] <coz> none the less debian packages for the most part work just fine on ubuntu
[02:13] <n1nj4-TaNten> nothing else
[02:14] <Nikopol> proxosi, see the line before your line?
[02:14] <n1nj4-TaNten> gnomefreak i have e ubuntu soruce
[02:14] <gnomefreak> bushito,  in breezy click on help icon
[02:14] <brenner> bushito: sys > about gnome
[02:14] <ernie_> like is there wa way to unistall my ethernet card and have ubuntu try to re-install it?
[02:14] <n1nj4-TaNten> but i still cant apt-get update
[02:14] <bushito> xD oh lol thanks
[02:14] <Nikopol> proxosi, /dev/hdc5	/media/hdc5	ntfs	defaults,auto,umask=0222	0	0
[02:14] <Nikopol> proxosi, I think
[02:14] <gnomefreak> n1nj4-TaNten,  paste your sources list in pastebin please and give us link
[02:15] <os2mac> does anyone know what the sources.list strings for the dapper releases?
[02:15] <n1nj4-TaNten> pastebin?
[02:15] <proxosi> what the command to edit fstab?
[02:15] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[02:15] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[02:15] <Hobbsee> os2mac: same as breezy, but with dapper instead of breezy
[02:15] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[02:15] <Nikopol> proxosi, sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[02:16] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee,  for what?
[02:16] <kazzoo> greetings, any links on getting old isa cards..ie modems, soundcards, NIC's to work?
[02:16] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: oops, sorry
[02:16] <n1nj4-TaNten> but i'v done the soruce file with soruce o matic
[02:16] <Nikopol> Hobbsee, :D
[02:16] <Hobbsee> proxosi:  sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[02:16] <n1nj4-TaNten> and then i printed it out
[02:16] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: misread the line lol!
[02:16] <n1nj4-TaNten> and wrote it done on the laptop and saved it
[02:16] <Nikopol> ok all gn
[02:16] <gnomefreak> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and paste what you have in there to pastebin n1nj4-TaNten
[02:17] <n1nj4-TaNten> thats it
[02:17] <n1nj4-TaNten> that is the file i wrote down
[02:17] <dragoon> whats the dev package called
[02:17] <n1nj4-TaNten> i can't paste it
[02:17] <dragoon> like for make tc
[02:17] <dragoon> etc
[02:17] <gnomefreak> n1nj4-TaNten,  yes now go to that file and paste what is in there to pastebin
[02:17] <everton137> Hi, I want mount my USB mobile using /dev/sda1 device, but it doesnt exist. Can someone help me, please?
[02:17] <n1nj4-TaNten> because i dont have irc on the laptop
[02:17] <n1nj4-TaNten> this is the other comp
[02:17] <ernie_> is a AMD k62 400Mhz w/256 RAM too slow to run ubuntu on?
[02:18] <BenUrban> ok i installed
[02:18] <BenUrban> i told it not to set up grub
[02:18] <dragoon> ernie_: i did gentoo on a pc with that specfs
[02:18] <dragoon> :p
[02:18] <gnomefreak> well n1nj4-TaNten its gonna be really really hard to help without seeing it
[02:18] <kenichi> everton137: type ls -la /dev/sd*
[02:18] <n1nj4-TaNten> but it is a lot of links
[02:18] <Hobbsee> ernie_: !xfce
[02:18] <ernie_> dragoon: how does it run?
[02:18] <BenUrban> i tried booting but it couldn't mount the root fs
[02:18] <dragoon> i didnt run X
[02:18] <Hobbsee> !tell ernie_ about xubuntu
[02:18] <dragoon> it ran a lil slow... it runs opensbd now'
[02:18] <BenUrban> what is the grub.conf line supposed to look like?
[02:18] <kenichi> everton137: what does it say?
[02:19] <everton137> kenichi, ls -l /dev/sd*
[02:19] <everton137> ls: No match.
[02:19] <gnomefreak> n1nj4-TaNten,  the only way to help you is to know what sources you have
[02:19] <n1nj4-TaNten> !pastebin
[02:19] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[02:19] <everton137> kenichi, it's strange. I thought it should appear when I plug my mobile on USB
[02:19] <proxosi> sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[02:19] <proxosi> gave me  Reading package lists... Done
[02:19] <proxosi> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:19] <proxosi> E: Couldn't find package flashplayer-mozilla
[02:19] <door> another question, in addition:  does anyone know how to get ubuntu to read a USB removable drive thing? for some reason at first I could save and load things from it, but now it's supposedly "read-only" and no matter how I try to chmod and chown it it doesn't change
[02:19] <Hobbsee> !info flashplayer-mozilla
[02:20] <quadra> [ !unload : no module with this name ] 
[02:20] <ubotu> flashplayer-mozilla: (Macromedia Flash Player), section multiverse/web, is optional. Version: 7.0.25-0.0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 956 kB, Installed size: 2136 kB
[02:20] <Hobbsee> proxosi: you need multiverse
[02:20] <kenichi> everton137: then ther is no usb device connected
[02:20] <n1nj4-TaNten> gnomefreak
[02:20] <n1nj4-TaNten> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5496
[02:20] <gnomefreak> n1nj4-TaNten,  ty
[02:20] <kenichi> everton137: type "dmesg"
[02:20] <proxosi> hobbsee: wwat that
[02:20] <everton137> kenichi, I use a hug where I plug mouse, keyborad and now mobile
[02:20] <Hobbsee> !multiverse
[02:20] <ubotu> it has been said that repositories is How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list
[02:20] <everton137> kenichi, I will put on #flood dmesg out
[02:20] <BenUrban> title Ubuntu Linux 2.6.12
[02:20] <BenUrban> root (hd0,0)
[02:20] <BenUrban> kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.12-ubuntu-r9-386 root=/dev/hda9
[02:20] <Aron_Figaro> Has anyone managed to get UT2004 installed on Ubuntu yet?
[02:20] <BenUrban> ^^^ what am i doing wrong?
[02:21] <paulito> has anyone here had sucess with running ubuntu in a vmware windows session ?
[02:21] <Aron_Figaro> BenUrban: the /dev/hda9 looks slightly fishy. How many partitions do you HAVE?
[02:21] <paulito> the install just cores vmware on me!
[02:21] <n1nj4-TaNten> gnomefreak it is the exact thing that i got from soruce o matic
[02:21] <BenUrban> Aron_Figaro: i have 8 plus the extended one
[02:21] <kenichi> everton137: does it say something about a usb device beeing connected?
[02:21] <gnomefreak> n1nj4-TaNten, what errors are you getting the sources list if thats all there is to it looks like it should work
[02:21] <Aron_Figaro> BenUrban: Ah, ok.
[02:21] <BenUrban> :)
[02:22] <redhand> hi everybody
[02:22] <BenUrban> gentoo is on the other 7
[02:22] <gnomefreak> n1nj4-TaNten,  i need to see your file not source-o-matics
[02:22] <BenUrban> i'm sharing /boot, /home, and swap
[02:22] <everton137> kenichi, done. there it is
[02:22] <Aron_Figaro> BenUrban: Not sure what the problem might be then.
[02:22] <n1nj4-TaNten> i get like that it couldn't connet or something
[02:22] <everton137> kenichi, there're a lot of lines with USB text...
[02:22] <Apache-> how to make a directory and a file writable?
[02:22] <Aron_Figaro> Anyone have any advice for me, I'm having a lot of issues with random permission errors...
[02:22] <gnomefreak> n1nj4-TaNten, im willing to bet either the cdrom repo is in your sources list causing that or you have other repos in there that are spitting out errors
[02:22] <brenner> door: heard of that before.  hit the forum while you wait
[02:22] <kenichi> everton137: what are the last two?
[02:23] <matrix> hi
[02:23] <BenUrban> Aron_Figaro: does ubuntu use initrd?
[02:23] <antics> I'm having issues getting crossover office to install office 2003--it claims I don't have permissions to mount or read the volume, even if I run it with su
[02:23] <antics> any ideas?
[02:23] <Aron_Figaro> BenUrban: *blinks* I'm no expert, but as far as I know, yes.
[02:23] <everton137> kenichi, [4322646.201000]  usb 1-1.4: USB disconnect, address 8
[02:23] <everton137> everton137 [4337747.426000]  usb 1-1.4: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 9
[02:23] <everton137> everton137 [4337747.602000]  drivers/usb/class/cdc-a
[02:23] <BenUrban> uhh
[02:23] <Hobbsee> !pastebin
[02:23] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[02:23] <n1nj4-TaNten> gnomefreak what cdrom repos?
[02:23] <BenUrban> hmph
[02:23] <n1nj4-TaNten> i dont have a cd-rom
[02:23] <BenUrban> where did it put it then?
[02:23] <door> hmm...i've searched the forums and just got lost. lol
[02:23] <everton137> kenichi, look at /proc/bus/usb/devices the mobile is found
[02:23] <gnomefreak> n1nj4-TaNten,  you might not have it if you didnt use cd to install
[02:23] <everton137> kenichi, T:  Bus=01 Lev=02 Prnt=02 Port=03 Cnt=03 Dev#= 11 Spd=12  MxCh= 0
[02:23] <everton137> D:  Ver= 1.10 Cls=02(comm.) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs=  1
[02:23] <everton137> P:  Vendor=0421 ProdID=041f Rev= 0.e0
[02:23] <everton137> S:  Manufacturer=Nokia Mobile Phones
[02:23] <everton137> S:  Product=Nokia 6235
[02:23] <BenUrban> ahh there it is nm
[02:24] <matrix> i have a hard drive 250 gb sata what partition is better (ext3,XFS)?
[02:24] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell everton137  about paste
[02:24] <n1nj4-TaNten> gnomefreak so what lines should i remove?
[02:24] <Aron_Figaro> Matrix: I use EXT3 on mine, but Reiser's cool too.
[02:24] <everton137> gnomefreak, ok, I wil paste on #flood, sorry
[02:24] <Apache-> how to make a directory and a file writable?
[02:24] <gnomefreak> n1nj4-TaNten,  i dont know you are not showing me your sources list
[02:24] <Apache-> how to make a directory and a file writable? with (chmod)
[02:24] <pr1r> hey all
[02:24] <n1nj4-TaNten> but that u saw was my whole soruce list
[02:24] <coz> chomod -help
[02:25] <gnomefreak> n1nj4-TaNten, the only way to help is to see whats in the etc/apt/sources.list file
[02:25] <coz> chmod -help
[02:25] <kenichi> everton137: but its not detected as a mobile disk
[02:25] <gnomefreak> no n1nj4-TaNten  i saw what source-o-matic gave you
[02:25] <everton137> kenichi, I dont know how to see in such case. How it would appear?
[02:25] <n1nj4-TaNten> but that is what i have typed in soruce.list
[02:25] <matrix> and how many gb support ext3
[02:25] <everton137> kenichi, I mean, when a mobile disk
[02:25] <Apache-> coz how am i supopsed to kno the numbers?
[02:25] <matrix> ?
[02:25] <n1nj4-TaNten> there is nothing else
[02:25] <coz> what are you trying to do?
[02:26] <jdkycdoc> kenichi, hi, i just tried it but after the installation X refuses to start with the new xorg.conf, so i had to change the file back to be able to astart X
[02:26] <gnomefreak> n1nj4-TaNten,  your not understanding me while typing it in are you sure that ther eis no stry marks anywhere?
[02:26] <ernie_> If I am already running gnome- is there a  way to run XFCE without re-installing
[02:26] <gnomefreak> are you sure nothing is typoed
[02:26] <ernie_> ?
[02:26] <Apache-> i want to make two folders and a file writable
[02:26] <kenichi> everton137: if it would be detected as a mobile disk it would appear as a sdx device
[02:26] <pablo> Anyone knows what can I do to use my faxmodem so as to receive faxes?
[02:26] <brenner> Apache-: easy way: look at a file's permissions tab through it's properties in nautilus
[02:26] <pr1r> i have a problem with my nvidia geforce fx video card
[02:26] <n1nj4-TaNten> gnomefreak stry marks??
[02:26] <BenUrban> Aron_Figaro: do you use grub? what does the kernel line in your grub.conf say?
[02:26] <gnomefreak> stray*
[02:26] <matrix> and how many gb support ext3?
[02:26] <proxosi> hobbsee: could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavail            able)
[02:26] <proxosi> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc            ess using it?
[02:26] <gnomefreak> an extra /
[02:26] <mjr> matrix, "enough"
[02:27] <everton137> kenichi, can be that I need some module for scsi?
[02:27] <brenner> Apache-: note how the number changes depending on the checkboxes you tick
[02:27] <Aron_Figaro> BenUrban I actually don't have a grub.conf file o.o
[02:27] <BenUrban> Aron_Figaro: lilo? yaboot?
[02:27] <kenichi> jdkycdoc: what does the Section "Device" in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf say?
[02:27] <Aron_Figaro> BenUrban: I use Grub :p
[02:27] <bimberi> proxosi: close synaptic
[02:27] <n1nj4-TaNten> gnomefreak what do u mean with stray marks?
[02:27] <BenUrban> ...
[02:27] <everton137> kenichi, cause I think udev does this detection, no?
[02:27] <gnomefreak> proxosi,  make sure only one process is open at a time
[02:27] <brenner> door: hang on, looking now
[02:27] <BenUrban> Aron_Figaro: how about menu.lst?
[02:27] <matrix> thk
[02:27] <pr1r> i go to synaptic package manager then software preferences, add then i edit repository i go to check the universe and multiverse boxes i click on and they dont stay checked
[02:27] <Aron_Figaro> BenUrban: trust me on this one, I drove the support people crazy, it was in menu.lst :P
[02:27] <kenichi> everton137: scsi support should normally be shipped with ubuntu
[02:28] <pr1r> im goin crazy the last 5 hrs tryin to get this other monitor to work
[02:28] <gnomefreak> n1nj4-TaNten,  look simple as this show me sources list or i cant help you i want your list not source-o-matics list
[02:28] <pr1r> need it to end now,lol
[02:28] <proxosi> ...
[02:28] <pr1r> thanks in advance
[02:28] <Aron_Figaro> title		Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12-10-386
[02:28] <Aron_Figaro> root		(hd0,2)
[02:28] <Aron_Figaro> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-386 root=/dev/sda3 ro quiet splash
[02:28] <Aron_Figaro> initrd		/boot/initrd.img-2.6.12-10-386
[02:28] <Aron_Figaro> savedefault
[02:28] <Aron_Figaro> boot
[02:28] <Arie-> hey guys, can someone help with ndiswrapper?
[02:28] <pablo> Anyone knows what can I do to use my faxmodem so as to receive faxes?
[02:28] <proxosi> now it shows the previous error.. cant find
[02:28] <Aron_Figaro> I apologize for pasting that in here. Didn't realize it was that big.
[02:28] <BenUrban> hmm
[02:28] <jrattner1> How can i make a program autostart with KDE?
[02:28] <proxosi> cant find package flashplayer
[02:28] <n1nj4-TaNten> that list that the soruce o matic gave me that is the list ia am using
[02:28] <gnomefreak> proxosi, do you have synaptic open and updating terminal?
[02:28] <everton137> kenichi, then if my mobile was detected /dev/sdX would appear automaticaly?
[02:28] <BenUrban> Aron_Figaro: there's a reason i only asked for the kernel line :)
[02:28] <n1nj4-TaNten> so it is identical
[02:28] <door> Arie:  what's the problem?
[02:28] <gnomefreak> n1nj4-TaNten,  no its not the list they gave you wont give you errors i have the same list
[02:28] <proxosi> sypnatic not open... updating terminal.. not sure?
[02:28] <Arie-> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[02:28] <Aron_Figaro> BenUrban: LOL, yeah
[02:28] <Arie-> door: that LOL
[02:29] <bimberi> proxosi: did you enable multiverse, then apt-get update?
[02:29] <n1nj4-TaNten> ill try to run it again
[02:29] <kenichi> everton137: yes
[02:29] <everton137> kenichi, maybe it's because I use a USB hub
[02:29] <proxosi> i think so
[02:29] <pablo> jrattner1: in kde dunno, but in gnome you have it in System - Preferences - Sessions
[02:29] <gnomefreak> Proxosi how many terms. do you have open?
[02:29] <n1nj4-TaNten> but i get the error
[02:29] <everton137> kenichi, wha do you think?
[02:29] <proxosi> one
[02:29] <door> Arie:  stupid question, but did you try sudo-ing it?
[02:29] <Aron_Figaro> I'm having a lot of permission errors when I'm running scripts. Anyone??
[02:29] <n1nj4-TaNten> gnomefreak should i run it as root??
[02:29] <pr1r> anyone know anything about geforce 5200 i
[02:29] <kenichi> everton137: i connect my mobile phone and all my usb storag device through a usb hub
[02:29] <pr1r> installing drivers?
[02:29] <gnomefreak> n1nj4-TaNten,  and here we go again i need YOUR  etc/apt/sources file not source-o-matics
[02:29] <kenichi> everton137: what phone is it?
[02:29] <everton137> kenichi, strange problem :(
[02:30] <gnomefreak> roots not gonna help you n1nj4-TaNten
[02:30] <everton137> kenichi, Nokia 6235
[02:30] <Arie-> that was the command lol
[02:30] <pablo> Oh, fuck, did anyone read my msg at least?
[02:30] <hanasaki> nayone know a way to do yahoo compatible chat and Cam onlin?
[02:30] <Arie-> i'm logged as root
[02:30] <n1nj4-TaNten> gnome
[02:30] <kenichi> everton137: perhaps it doesnt support beeing a mobile disk
[02:30] <Arie-> door: this is my first day using linux lol
[02:30] <coz> soryy pablo what was the message
[02:30] <n1nj4-TaNten> gnomefreak the only thing i can do i sto write it down at this comp
[02:30] <pablo> Anyone knows what can I do to use my faxmodem so as to receive faxes?
[02:30] <everton137> kenichi, :(
[02:30] <door> oh...huh...
[02:30] <door> hmmm
[02:30] <Aron_Figaro> Can anyone tell me what this IS? bash: ./linux-installer.sh: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied
[02:30] <BenUrban> Aron_Figaro: it's a very bad thing
[02:30] <everton137> kenichi, ok, do you think I can try something?
[02:31] <BenUrban> wtf did you do to /bin/sh?
[02:31] <everton137> kenichi, something elese
[02:31] <Arie-> door: it's a huge step from yesterday where i couldn't even get ndiswrapper to accept my driver lol
[02:31] <door> Arie:  i know that there are some good explanations on the wiki at ubuntulinux.org
[02:31] <gnomefreak> n1nj4-TaNten,  you typing it isnt gonna help much because ther eis something in that file that is causing an error
[02:31] <BenUrban> Aron_Figaro: try sudo chmod 755 /bin/sh
[02:31] <Arie-> yeah but not for this error
[02:31] <door> Arie:  lol...i had the same problems like last month
[02:31] <Arie-> that i saw anyway
[02:31] <kenichi> everton137: im not that good with linux. sorry i cant help you...
[02:31] <pr1r> anyone know anything about nvidia drivers
[02:31] <n1nj4-TaNten> i will check it again
[02:31] <Aron_Figaro> BenUrban Hmm...that might fix a bajillion problems. I'll try that. I've been having a LOT of permissions problems running random 3rd-party scripts.
[02:31] <everton137> kenichi, ok, thanks anyway. cya
[02:31] <pr1r> dual monitors???
[02:31] <door> Arie:  but i'm not entirely sure what I finally did right, to be hones
[02:31] <n1nj4-TaNten> can it be my network card
[02:31] <n1nj4-TaNten> ??
[02:31] <BenUrban> Aron_Figaro: indeed it will...if it works
[02:31] <kenichi> everton137: cya
[02:32] <door> *t
[02:32] <Arie-> door: LOL
[02:32] <proxosi> gnomefreak: do i have to do add outside repositotries
[02:32] <some_dude> Im lost with the sudo, why dows it want my password ?
[02:32] <gnomefreak> n1nj4-TaNten, i dont know can you get online?
[02:32] <Aron_Figaro> BenUrban: Nope
[02:32] <BenUrban> thought not
[02:32] <BenUrban> Aron_Figaro: what does it say?
[02:32] <gnomefreak> proxosi,  for what?
[02:32] <door> Arie:  sorry...that's all i've got
[02:32] <jrattner1> Is a pentium 4, a i386 or i686?
[02:32] <Aron_Figaro> BenUrban: When I do Chmod? No error. When I run the script? Same error.
[02:32] <n1nj4-TaNten> gnomefreak is it possible to install debian basic system without connection
[02:32] <n1nj4-TaNten> ?
[02:32] <proxosi> gnomefreak: to install flash on ff
[02:32] <pacman326> hi everyone
[02:32] <BenUrban> oh
[02:32] <n1nj4-TaNten> only with floppies
[02:32] <xspades> some_dude  ubuntuguide.org has a tutorial on getting sudo to not ask for your password
[02:32] <pr1r> hey
[02:32] <BenUrban> Aron_Figaro: try sudo chmod 755 /bin/bash
[02:32] <gnomefreak> proxosi,  i dont know
[02:32] <kenichi> pr1r: i have set up dual monitor with nvidia drivers
[02:32] <Aron_Figaro> BenUrban: That's what I've been getting CONSTANTLY when I'm trying to do things, and k
[02:32] <pr1r> yeah
[02:32] <BenUrban> heh
[02:33] <door> Arie:  actually, do you have an up-to-date version of ndiswrapper?
[02:33] <Aron_Figaro> BenUrban: Exact same results
[02:33] <pr1r> kenichi: howd u do it
[02:33] <door> you might try sourcefoge.net
[02:33] <BenUrban> dunno how you managed to disable exec access to your shell
[02:33] <pr1r> ive been tryin all day
[02:33] <n1nj4-TaNten> gnomefreak how can i check my connection
[02:33] <n1nj4-TaNten> ?
[02:33] <brenner> jrattner1: uname -m
[02:33] <BenUrban> Aron_Figaro: ls -l /bin/sh
[02:33] <gnomefreak> n1nj4-TaNten,  anything is possible i guess but i dont know how you installed it
[02:33] <some_dude> xspades i don't care, but shouldn't that be the root password?
[02:33] <gnomefreak> n1nj4-TaNten, open up firefox??????????
[02:33] <xspades> some_dude sudo needs your password
[02:33] <Arie-> oh it think i have to tell it to rewrite
[02:33] <brenner> jrattner1: in general it's 686
[02:33] <kenichi> pr1r: there is a good tutorial for this. i sear it for you
[02:33] <n1nj4-TaNten> gnomefreak i only have console
[02:33] <jrattner1> brenner, ok so i should install the i686?
[02:33] <n1nj4-TaNten> prompt
[02:33] <BenUrban> some_dude: su uses your root password.  sudo ses your user password
[02:33] <pr1r> im havin a problem with the tutorial
[02:33] <Arie-> door: yeah i think i have to remove the old one
[02:33] <BenUrban> *useds
[02:33] <BenUrban> *uses
[02:34] <kenichi> pr1r: what tutorial do you have and what problem?
[02:34] <ernie_> can i install xFCE by typing "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" from terminal?  or will it break things?  Can you choose between desktops?
[02:34] <door> Arie:  oh, ok! cool. good luck!
[02:34] <Aron_Figaro> BenUrban: lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 4 2005-10-18 18:12 /bin/sh -> bash
[02:34] <gnomefreak> n1nj4-TaNten,  what does sudo apt-get upgrade give you
[02:34] <BenUrban> ls -l /bin/bash
[02:34] <xspades> ernie_ you can, just select xfce on the session at login
[02:34] <brenner> jrattner1: if you wish. in my experience, i can't tell the difference
[02:34] <xspades> once done that is
[02:34] <ernie_> thanks xspades
[02:34] <gnomefreak> ernie_, yes
[02:34] <some_dude> where is the wine package ?
[02:34] <proxosi> what mediaplayer is comparable to mediaplayer classic ? in linux?
[02:34] <pr1r> kenichi: on the tutorial it tells me to check all the boxes in "edit repository" ie: bb/su/u and i try to check them and then i go back and universe and multiverse arent checked
[02:34] <BenUrban> Aron_Figaro: try typing /bin/sh
[02:35] <BenUrban> see what you get
[02:35] <Aron_Figaro> BenUrban: sh-3.00$ prompt
[02:35] <BenUrban> good good
[02:35] <pr1r> kenichi:i went on ubuntu wiki and found something there
[02:35] <kenichi> pr1r: and what for u need to check them?
[02:35] <pr1r> kenichi: thats what the wiki said to do
[02:35] <some_dude> proxosi xmms ?
[02:35] <some_dude> mplayer ?
[02:36] <jorge_rubio1> hola
[02:36] <BenUrban> Aron_Figaro: what's the first line of the script you're trying to run?
[02:36] <ernie_> hmm terminal tells me i have requested an impossible situation.
[02:36] <pr1r> kenichi: it said on repository box click add select each and check all
[02:36] <Aron_Figaro> BenUrban: Fetching
[02:36] <proxosi> wat xmms?
[02:36] <Aron_Figaro> BenUrban: Can't read it. Unable to detect character encoding.
[02:36] <BenUrban> LMAO
[02:36] <gnomefreak> ernie_, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop gave you that error?
[02:36] <kenichi> pr1r: but what software?
[02:36] <BenUrban> Aron_Figaro: that's the problem ;)
[02:37] <ernie_> yes
[02:37] <Aron_Figaro> BenUrban: Great. So much for a supported Linux installer. *kills Atari*
[02:37] <ernie_> it said unmet dependancies
[02:37] <BenUrban> lmao
[02:37] <Trashcan> lol
[02:37] <Aron_Figaro> That was UT2004.
[02:37] <BenUrban> Aron_Figaro: wait, what are you trying to use to open it?
[02:37] <Trashcan> if it cant detect char encoding then its a binary
[02:37] <Trashcan> :o
[02:37] <gnomefreak> ernie_,  did it give you a choice to install the depndencies?
[02:37] <Aron_Figaro> BenUrban: Just gedit
[02:37] <some_dude> what
[02:37] <pr1r> kenichi: this is even before i install the nvidia-glx and the settings package
[02:37] <BenUrban> Aron_Figaro: ok, try this:
[02:37] <some_dude> what is the gui package manager ? synaptic ?
[02:37] <BenUrban> Aron_Figaro: head -n 1 /path/to/script
[02:38] <gnomefreak> some_dude, yes
[02:38] <kenichi> pr1r: ah, isee
[02:38] <ernie_> no choice to install them given
[02:38] <Arie-> i'm gonna try to remove re-apply
[02:38] <ernie_> aat the end it said "The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[02:38] <ernie_>   xubuntu-desktop: Depends: libgl1-mesa but it is not going to be installed
[02:38] <ernie_> E: Broken packages"
[02:38] <kenichi> pr1r: so you dont even have installed your nvidia drive?
[02:38] <gnomefreak> !info xubuntu-desktop
[02:38] <ubotu> xubuntu-desktop: (Xubuntu desktop system), section universe/misc, is optional. Version: 1.4 (breezy), Packaged size: 5 kB, Installed size: 32 kB
[02:38] <pr1r> kenichi: tell you the truth im not even sure
[02:38] <gnomefreak> ernie_,  do you have universe repo enabled?
[02:38] <some_dude> any problem with kde AND gnome ?
[02:38] <xspades> ernie_ http://www.3spades.net/i/sources.list  save your current list, put those in, apt-get update, then install xubuntu-dektop
[02:38] <ernie_> i believe i do
[02:38] <pr1r> kenichi: everything is so big on this damn monitor right now, im losin track of everything
[02:38] <Aron_Figaro> BenUrban: #!/bin/sh
[02:39] <kenichi> pr1r: what does your synaptic say? is nvidia-glx installed?
[02:39] <Trashcan> wtf
[02:39] <n1nj4-TaNten> gnomefreak when i run apt-get upgrade and update it fails on every link in source.list
[02:39] <gnomefreak> some_dude, not on breezy that im aware of
[02:39] <Trashcan> a self extractor should open in gedit anyway
[02:39] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Yo
[02:39] <Trashcan> the america's army one did
[02:39] <franzroot> i installed bum to deactivate dictd several  months ago. Now i installed some dictionaries databases and reactivate dictd through bum, but i can't do it works. I look for it wiht ps -A and found nothing. I tried  sudo /etc/init.d/dictd stop followed by a similar start, but i got nothing. Strangely i typed dictd --version and it answered me correctly. Any sugestion of what is going wrong?
[02:39] <pacman326>  Hi everyone, I am a complete linux newb, and I need some help. I was able to successfully install the first part of the installation, but when I boot ubuntu, and it tries to finish the installation process, it tells me something about tty, and job process being "off" Can anyone help me?
[02:39] <pr1r> kenichi: right now no
[02:39] <BenUrban> Aron_Figaro: hmm, my suspicion is that there's some other character(s) on that line that are not visible
[02:39] <Trashcan> and ut2k4 demo
[02:39] <Aron_Figaro> BenUrban: Possibly...
[02:39] <BenUrban> Aron_Figaro: do you have hexedit?
[02:39] <jdkycdoc> kenichi, sorry i was distracted reading about the issue, the Device part says the usual Nvidia Card such and such... driver "nv" in the old one "nvidia" in the new one (the one that doesn't work)
[02:40] <Aron_Figaro> BenUrban: Not at the moment. I'll get it.
[02:40] <BenUrban> k
[02:40] <Aron_Figaro> BenUrban: and don't worry, I know how to handle a hex editor. :)
[02:40] <pr1r> kenichi: i just reinstalled ubuntu again and am doin the whole thing over, the rollback thing didnt work the first time
[02:40] <steven_> what a nice day at the beginning of which logging on x-chat in my domitory
[02:40] <BenUrban> heh
[02:40] <Aron_Figaro> BenUrban: 00000000   23 21 2F 62  69 6E 2F 73  68 0A 23 20  54 68 69 73  #!/bin/sh.# This
[02:40] <some_dude> i know the answer already, but is wine stable ?
[02:41] <pacman326>  Not to sound rude, but can anyone help me with my issue? I can indulge more information if needed
[02:41] <BenUrban> hmm
[02:41] <BenUrban> 0A...
[02:41] <kenichi> jdkycdoc: hmm. curious
[02:41] <jrattner1> How do i make a program autostart with KDE
[02:41] <ernie_> is there a command to determine wich version of ubuntu i am running?
[02:41] <Arie-> praise jesus and hallelujah
[02:41] <gnomefreak> n1nj4-TaNten,  you might have bad connection or no connection but other than pinging you connection i dont know i cant remember i think its ping <ipaddress> but im not positive
[02:41] <kenichi> pr1r: then install the right one for ur card
[02:41] <BenUrban> Aron_Figaro: hmph, 0A is indeed the right char
[02:41] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Yeargh. Everytime I try to enable DMA on my disk drive it spits out in the term that the operation is not supported.
[02:42] <gnomefreak> ernie_, click the help icon 5.10 will tell you it will have a 5.10 guide
[02:42] <jdkycdoc> kenichi, havent you read about a lot of people having trouble with this? in ubuntu forums there are some guides, im trying to decide what to do
[02:42] <Aron_Figaro> BenUrban: any idea why it's up to this then?
[02:42] <kenichi> pr1r: all i did was installing this driver and configured the xorg.conf
[02:42] <BenUrban> Aron_Figaro: try starting it using /bin/sh:
[02:42] <kenichi> jdkycdoc: i cant really tell you about troubles. i just installed the driver and the it worked for me
[02:42] <BenUrban> Aron_Figaro: /bin/sh /path/to/script
[02:42] <Arie-> i did it i did it iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiid iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
[02:42] <Arie-> lol
[02:43] <Arie-> sorry
[02:43] <pr1r> kenichi: ok ill try but id be skipping that  adding multi and whatever the other one is check boxes
[02:43] <jdkycdoc> kenichi, ok thanks
[02:43] <door> Arie:  woot!
[02:43] <Aron_Figaro> BenUrban: SHAZAM
[02:43] <BenUrban> hehe
[02:43] <pr1r> thanks ima try now
[02:43] <Aron_Figaro> BenUrban: WTF did that do?
[02:43] <ernie_> ok, apparently i am running 5.04.  could that present a problem?
[02:43] <Aron_Figaro> BenUrban: can you explainify it?
[02:43] <Arie-> totally awesome
[02:43] <kenichi> jdkycdoc: but why isnt the xserver starting? did it say something? for example device not found or something?
[02:43] <BenUrban> Aron_Figaro: it did what that first line should've done
[02:44] <BenUrban> which is launch the file using the /bin/sh shell
[02:44] <kenichi> pr1r: skipping what?
[02:44] <pacman326>  I believe the exact error message I got was "can't access tty; job control turned off". I get this when I try to run Ubuntu for the first time after it reboots my system
[02:44] <jdkycdoc> well, it has quite a messy log in some file
[02:44] <kenichi> pr1r: and where
[02:44] <kenichi> jdkycdoc: can you post it for me?
[02:44] <Aron_Figaro> BenUrban: Ahh, I see.
[02:44] <BenUrban> and no i don't know why it didn't work with the first line
[02:44] <kenichi> jdkycdoc: but not here
[02:45] <Aron_Figaro> BenUrban: I assume it read the first "#" to mark a comment. :p
[02:45] <BenUrban> it is
[02:45] <Aron_Figaro> BenUrban: Yeah, then that line was commented out.
[02:45] <kenichi> jdkycdoc: but here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/
[02:45] <jdkycdoc> kenichi, yes sure just a minute, thanks
[02:45] <Milk_> Heres a good one... Does anyone here know of an app that will monitor the up/down state of a website/web application?
[02:45] <BenUrban> but linux treats +x files beginning with #! specially
[02:45] <Aron_Figaro> BenUrban: Next permission magic issue - my MBR rescue disk. :p
[02:45] <some_dude> actully sudo is not asking for a password
[02:45] <Dandel> how do i submit a update to fix a driver problem i found with ubuntu?
[02:45] <kenichi> jdkycdoc: but i havent got that much time left... i have to go to bed ;) its late here...
[02:46] <Aron_Figaro> mewmew123 MEOW! =^_^=
[02:46] <mewmew123> Aron_Figaro, hi
[02:46] <BenUrban> when you try to execute it, it launches the rest of that line and appends the name of the script to the command line
[02:46] <Dandel> it's one i have with the acx111 and acx100 chips.
[02:46] <pr1r> kenichi: on the repositories dialog box click add, there are 3 separate repositories, bb/su/u, select them all and check all the boxes... the boxes that arent stayin checked
[02:46] <BenUrban> that has the effect of running the script in the interpreter that is specified in that first line
[02:46] <pr1r> kenichi: the universe and multiuniverse boxes
[02:46] <kenichi> pr1r: ah, that you mean
[02:46] <Aron_Figaro> mewmew123 I saw your name and thought...I should say hello to my fellow kitty.
[02:46] <pr1r> kenchi: yes
[02:47] <kenichi> pr1r: but you can chose the correct driver?
[02:47] <BenUrban> and the point of using #! is that those interpreters that use it use # for comments
[02:47] <pr1r> kenichi: i think its the correct driver
[02:47] <Aron_Figaro> BenUrban: *nods*
[02:47] <mewmew123> Is Ubuntu open by default ? I checked iptables -L and it showed default rule of accept for all
[02:47] <BenUrban> that includes sh, bash, perl, python, ruby, ...
[02:47] <Aron_Figaro> BenUrban: I need a good, current book of Linux programming :)
[02:47] <varsendagger> hey what's happeing?
[02:47] <BenUrban> lol
[02:47] <pr1r> kenichi: nvidia-glx and nvidia-settings
[02:47] <Aron_Figaro> BenUrban: Shell scripting is something I'm still fairly new at.
[02:48] <BenUrban> Aron_Figaro: no clue where i first learned about the #! magic cookie
[02:48] <BenUrban> and yes that is the technical term for it
[02:48] <Aron_Figaro> BenUrban: Heh. Thanks though, it may come in handy one day.
[02:48] <kenichi> pr1r: which card do you have? (i dont even have installed the settings packet...)
[02:48] <Aron_Figaro> BenUrban: You're pretty good with this OS. I'm finding Ubuntu to have some weird permissions issues. Want to tackle "what's wrong with my MBR Rescue?"
[02:49] <pr1r> kenichi: i have a geforce fx 5200 agp and a voodoo 3(lol) pci, thats the one im on now cause the other monitor isnt working
[02:49] <Razor-X> BenUrban: I thought that's called the shebang?
[02:49] <BenUrban> Razor-X: lmao, never heard that
[02:49] <FlannelKing> What's 'sensible-browser'?
[02:49] <varsendagger> Aron_Figaro, what kind of permission issues?
[02:49] <FlannelKing> is it just a link to a browser?
[02:49] <Razor-X> BenUrban: it's on most of the current scripting tutorial websites
[02:49] <BenUrban> magic cookie applies to the first two bytes of any *nix executable file
[02:49] <varsendagger> FlannelKing, just a browser, yeah
[02:49] <BenUrban> including binaries
[02:49] <bshumate> BenUrban: it is called the shebang...not the magic cookie
[02:50] <BenUrban> the shebang is one of the magic cookies that linux recognizes
[02:50] <kenichi> pr1r: ah, so you have two cards not one with two monitor outputs?
[02:50] <Razor-X> shebang notation is the common UNIX term for flagging a file as a executable script using the ``#!'' set of characters
[02:50] <bshumate> you are thinking of file magic anyway per binaries... "magic cookie" is an authentication scheme for X
[02:50] <bshumate> kids these days...
[02:50] <FlannelKing> so, how do I change it?  is it just a symlink? (I installed konqueror, and now my default browser for xchat (possibly more?) is Konqueror, not FF).
[02:50] <BenUrban> Aron_Figaro: i'm pretty good with it because i installed gentoo by hand
[02:50] <DJ_Necrogami> hello, im trying to setup samba so i can store files on my server samba is running but it wont let me login with eather my root account or my user account
[02:50] <jdkycdoc> kenichi, the log was overwritten by the succesful start of X with nv, and unfortunately I am too tired to try everything again. thank you anyway, maybe tomorrow ill try again to fix this.
[02:50] <pr1r> kenichi: yes, sorry that im not giving all the correct info... at work/watching hockey, lol
[02:50] <BenUrban> note that i have only just installed ubuntu for the first time
[02:50] <Aron_Figaro> BenUrban: Stage1?
[02:50] <BenUrban> yes
[02:50] <Razor-X> bshumate: I'm probably a kid, age-wise :)
[02:50] <Aron_Figaro> BenUrban: Impressive. I tried that once. Didn't get overly far.
[02:50] <varsendagger> BenUrban, how else can you install gentoo other than by hand
[02:50] <BenUrban> heh
[02:51] <BenUrban> varsendagger: #gentoo-installer
[02:51] <BenUrban> :D
[02:51] <bshumate> Razor-X : werd! i have kids! ;-P
[02:51] <gnomefreak> varsendagger, thats the only way ive ever heard of
[02:51] <fishdish> i don't thank God
[02:51] <Razor-X> bshumate: hahahahaha!
[02:51] <kenichi> jdkycdoc: sorry that i couldnt help you. i hope tomorrw someone can ;) gn8
[02:51] <Razor-X> BenUrban: that defeats the fun of it
[02:51] <BenUrban> though only one is populated
[02:51] <varsendagger> ha ha
[02:51] <Aron_Figaro> BenUrban: LOL.
[02:51] <Razor-X> BenUrban: Gentoo's all about compilation, and knowing your system inside-out
[02:51] <Razor-X> :P
[02:51] <varsendagger> what are your other channles
[02:51] <BenUrban> that's why i picked gentoo
[02:51] <kenichi> pr1r: right, then it works different from what ive set up
[02:52] <Aron_Figaro> Razor-X: Yeah, I'm learning that. I may switch to Gentoo sooner or later. Maybe I'll wait until I do my next custom rig.
[02:52] <jdkycdoc> kenichi, thanks bye
[02:52] <fishdish> But i'd like to have kids though, after a few years, after getting rich, experienced and making the World a better place
[02:52] <pr1r> kenichi: damnit... well thanks for the help
[02:52] <BenUrban> varsendagger: #gnuscript, #robowar, #pycui, #alephlinux, #alephone
[02:52] <chris__> is there anyway that i could make my line-in volume stay the same? i set it to maximum but when i close it, it goes back to minimum.
[02:52] <Razor-X> Aron_Figaro: I find no need, really, unless you want every app of yours to be compiled efficiently
[02:52] <kenichi> pr1r: but what you are looking for is called xinerama
[02:52] <Razor-X> Portage is the only package manager I like *more* than the dpkg system
[02:52] <kenichi> pr1r: perhaps that helps
[02:52] <BenUrban> Razor-X: damn straight
[02:52] <Razor-X> and the apt chain of utilities that act as a frontend to dpkg
[02:52] <BenUrban> :D
[02:52] <Aron_Figaro> Razor-X: When I do my next custom rig, I'll probably want to do that then, because I've got a need for speed (and a hatred for compile times longer than 10 seconds)
[02:52] <pr1r> kenichi: where do i get that???
[02:53] <Razor-X> Aron_Figaro: :)
[02:53] <Razor-X> you'll be saddened when you try and ``emerge mplayer''
[02:53] <some_dude> this is twisted, i just used putty on linux to connect to sshd on windows
[02:53] <Razor-X> without swap, on 128 MB of RAM, vim takes about 15 seconds to compile :)
[02:53] <Fujitsu> some_dude: HAha!
[02:53] <varsendagger> what happens when you emerge mplayer?
[02:53] <kenichi> pr1r: xinerama is no program its a configuration for x to set up two monitors
[02:53] <Aron_Figaro> Razor-X: on a 64-bit dual core with 2 gigs of ram and a 10gig swap? :P
[02:54] <gnomefreak> varsendagger, isnt emerge = to install?
[02:54] <pr1r> kenichi: didnt know that
[02:54] <Razor-X> Aron_Figaro: I'ld estimate MPlayer would take 5 minutes, at the least
[02:54] <chris__> does anyone have any idea as to why my line-in volume keep reseting itself?
[02:54] <varsendagger> to my knoledge it is like apt-get
[02:54] <kenichi> pr1r: perhaps this tutorial helps you out?
[02:54] <kenichi> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/
[02:54] <Razor-X> MPlayer is a ten minute compile for a 1.6ghz CPU (compilation only taxes CPU)
[02:54] <mewmew123> Is Ubuntu open by default ? I checked iptables -L and it showed default rule of accept for all
[02:54] <Aron_Figaro> Razor-X: LOL. Well, my current rig is only about half that (one core, 1 gig, and the swap's only 2GB)
[02:54] <potus> mr_daemon: i tried that command you have me earlier to backup my system..  and its getting stuck on archive.tar.bz2.  i dont want it to add itself to the archieve that would be an endless loop?
[02:54] <kenichi> pr1r: wrong link
[02:54] <ernie_> is anyone running dapper drake?
[02:54] <Aron_Figaro> Razor-X: Why does mplayer take so long to compile, anyway?
[02:54] <Razor-X> ernie_: lot of people are
[02:55] <gnomefreak> varsendagger,  yeah thats what i meant since install doesnt exsist on gentoo :( compile this compile that :(
[02:55] <Razor-X> Aron_Figaro: because it's mplayer :)
[02:55] <Razor-X> mplayer can do just about *anything*
[02:55] <kenichi> pr1r: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors
[02:55] <Razor-X> at least, if you download the ``all'' codecs package and compile in large-file-support
[02:55] <ernie_> Razor-X: is it pretty reliable?
[02:55] <Razor-X> oh yes, it is
[02:55] <pr1r> kenichi: thanks... i will read it during intermission... you have been very helpful
[02:55] <phoul> Excuse me i think i have a virus..... If i try to open something it closes instently
[02:55] <Razor-X> this box runs cplay as a frontend to mpg123/ogg123 to play music, and mplayer for video
[02:55] <kenichi> pr1r: its a REALLY good tutorial for all kind of dual monitor set ups
[02:55] <varsendagger> Razor-x can you play the streams form streamwired.com?
[02:55] <Axioein> I am having trouble with MySQL. Does the Ubuntu-4.1 package not have mysql_config?
[02:56] <phoul> Anyone?
[02:56] <Razor-X> phoul: A) Open it in a terminal B) How many Linux virii do you know of?
[02:56] <kenichi> pr1r: well good night then. its late  here ;)
[02:56] <Razor-X> varsendagger: I'm not sure about that
[02:56] <franzroot> Hi, anyone could point me a good resource to look at for infos about Linux daemons?
[02:56] <phoul> Lol Razor-X none but whats going on
[02:56] <pr1r> kenichi: thanks again... have a good night
[02:56] <Shady> Heya, I need help with my network, for some reason this comp can see my network stuff, but my laptop can't, I don't remember doing anything to my network. Can you help me out with the laptop portion?
[02:56] <Razor-X> phoul: like I said :) open it in a terminal
[02:56] <phoul> why is it doing thins?
[02:56] <phoul> Well like its doing it with ALL my programs...
[02:57] <kenichi> bye @ all
[02:57] <Razor-X> phoul: well, let's see what the problem is, in a terminal
[02:57] <Razor-X> if it gets dirty, we'll strace the bugger
[02:57] <Axioein> Shady: Does your laptop have multiple network terminals?
[02:57] <Axioein> errr
[02:57] <Axioein> network cards?
[02:57] <xspades> at6
[02:57] <Shady> Axioein, yes, an ethernet and wifi
[02:57] <Razor-X> oh, and, I have 5 minutes left till I leave for self-appointed work
[02:57] <Razor-X> :)
[02:57] <ernie_> by adding the universe repositories and the sudo apt-get updating, does that give a person the codecs they need ?
[02:57] <phoul> Razor-X, i dont know the program name... its the splashscreen editer...
[02:57] <ernie_> then
[02:57] <gnomefreak> gnome-art
[02:58] <guido_> (self-appointed work?)
[02:58] <phoul> gnome its not gnome-art
[02:58] <phoul> Thats where i got the pics
[02:58] <Razor-X> phoul: is that the only one that crashes?
[02:58] <gnomefreak> ok worth a shot ;)
[02:58] <phoul> The thing to apply them,,,
[02:58] <phoul> And Razor-X no
[02:58] <phoul> wait...
[02:58] <phoul> yes
[02:58] <phoul> Lol
[02:58] <Razor-X> guido_: the pursuit of knowledge waits for no-one
[02:58] <phoul> Whats wrong with it?
[02:58] <Razor-X> phoul: I would like to know the application name...
[02:58] <phoul> I dont know it tho
[02:59] <Razor-X> and I don't really have/use Gnome, so I wouldn't know it
[02:59] <guido_> R-X: affirmed.
[02:59] <phoul> If you go into system then prefs then spashscreen
[02:59] <gnomefreak> wont gimp edit splash screens?
[02:59] <Razor-X> how 'bout you other people out there, what's the default splashscreen editor?
[02:59] <phoul> its just to apply them...
[02:59] <phoul> Its in system>prefs>app splashscreen
[02:59] <MasterTsunami> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41709
[02:59] <gnomefreak> Razor-X,  its called gnome splashscreen manager
[02:59] <gnomefreak> lol
[03:00] <Razor-X> gnomefreak: ... wow :P
[03:00] <gnomefreak> lol
[03:00] <phoul> You serious gnomefreak?
[03:00] <Razor-X> what is the name of the thing to run from the terminal?
[03:00] <unless> g'day everyone
[03:00] <gnomefreak> i dont see it being an editor tho
[03:00] <phoul> Not editer
[03:00] <Razor-X> can't you right-click on the menu, and find out the name of the app?
[03:00] <phoul> It just applys them!
[03:00] <Razor-X> I don't know! you people work with menus, you should know how to use them!
[03:00] <phoul> Razor-X, no i cant
[03:01] <gnomefreak> phoul,  the only way i know of to get this manageer is to install gnome-art
[03:01] <Razor-X> :P
[03:01] <dragoon> !pastebin
[03:01] <Razor-X> well, I take my leave
[03:01] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[03:01] <phoul> gnome i have it dude
[03:01] <unless> Hey, I've been having a bitch of a time trying to get java installed on my new install, mainly because I have no idea what package contains 'make-jpkg', anyone know what I should get?
[03:01] <phoul> If i try to open the splashscreen thing it closes
[03:01] <brenner> gnomefreak: it is?  i always thought you had to go through gconf. i.e. there is no default splahs image mgr
[03:01] <phoul> Or crash's
[03:01] <Shady> Can anyone help me get my laptop side of the network up? For some reason the desktop can access it put the lappy can't.
[03:01] <dragoon> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/453442
[03:01] <dragoon> any ideas?
[03:02] <phoul> gnomefreak, what do i do if its crashing?
[03:02] <phoul> It seemed to start crashing when i added a screen from gnome-art
[03:02] <brenner> unless: ask ubotu about java
[03:02] <dragoon> ??
[03:02] <Axioein> Shady: Did you check to make sure everything is plugged in? After that to make sure that the connection is active?
[03:02] <gnomefreak> phoul,  is gnome art crashing too?
[03:02] <brenner> unless: and future reference: packages.ubuntu.com   ... you can do a file search
[03:02] <phoul> Only when i try to add a splashscreen
[03:03] <ernie_> anyone recomend a game to run on an older machine?
[03:03] <fishdish> hm
[03:03] <unless> brenner: Thanks, but I already checked there and there's nothing.
[03:03] <Shady> Axioein, everything is plugged in. And I can use the internet on it.
[03:03] <dragoon> any ideas about my qt issues
[03:03] <phoul> gnomefreak, if i try to use the splashscreen button in system>prefs the thing crash's
[03:03] <phoul> And i really would like it working...
[03:03] <gnomefreak> phoul,  good question i dont change the splashscreen i like original
[03:04] <phoul> gnomefreak, just how do i get into it...
[03:04] <Axioein> Shady: What type of network are you after?
[03:04] <Biscuitian_Warhe> This is kinda random, but where does a computer store your Username and Password to match with your login details?
[03:04] <gnomefreak> phoul,  does it ever complain about a broken pacakage?
[03:04] <Axioein> Shady: a local network? with shares and the like?
[03:04] <gnomefreak> package*
[03:04] <phoul> Umm i cant seem to open it with the terminal because i dont know the ap name
[03:04] <Shady> Axioein, yeah just a LAN
[03:05] <gnomefreak> phoul,  what version of ubuntu?
[03:05] <phoul> Uhh
[03:05] <phoul> It never did this before tho
[03:05] <phoul> But i dont know
[03:05] <Aron_Figaro> BenUrban: Well, I got UT2004 to work nicely, but then it crashed when I died.
[03:05] <dragoon> ??
[03:05] <Blah`> dragoon needs help with this ------------> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/453442
[03:05] <Blah`> someone please answer
[03:05] <dragoon> indeed i do
[03:05] <BenUrban> Aron_Figaro: maybe your avatar is more tied into your system than you think?
[03:05] <gnomefreak> phoul,  do you see the help icon in gnome?
[03:05] <BenUrban> :D
[03:06] <gnomefreak> looks like a life perserver?
[03:06] <dragoon> seems to be something out of the ordinary
[03:06] <Aron_Figaro> BenUrban: Huh? :P
[03:06] <BenUrban> when you die, it dies
[03:06] <Aron_Figaro> BenUrban: Great. :P
[03:06] <phoul> yeah i do gnome
[03:06] <Aron_Figaro> BenUrban: So much for my Onslaught play style XD
[03:06] <Axioein> Anyone have any experience with mySQL on Ubuntu?
[03:07] <Aron_Figaro> Axioein: Me Me Me! XD
[03:07] <gnomefreak> click it you should see a version in there
[03:07] <gnomefreak> 5.10 will have a guide
[03:07] <GTroy> can someone give me some easy advice?
[03:07] <Axioein> Aron: What version? the 4.0? 4.1?
[03:07] <BenUrban> Aron_Figaro: i've heard rumors of an fps game that kills processes
[03:07] <Mighty_Whitey> Sure, go to school...
[03:07] <Aron_Figaro> Axioein: This one I know. Basically just follow the install guide to the letter...and it should theoretically work. I did it in 5.
[03:07] <GTroy> on user name
[03:07] <gnomefreak> GTroy,  define easy
[03:07] <gnomefreak> lol
[03:07] <Aron_Figaro> BenUrban O.o
[03:07] <GTroy> really easy
[03:07] <BenUrban> you run around your system and shoot processes
[03:07] <BenUrban> and they die
[03:07] <gnomefreak> GTroy, ask it
[03:07] <Aron_Figaro> BenUrban: Cute
[03:07] <BenUrban> yep
[03:07] <gnomefreak> please
[03:08] <Blah`> dragoon needs help with this ------------> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/453442
[03:08] <phoul> gnomefreak, if i run gnome-splashscreen-manager in a terminal it does the following
[03:08] <GTroy> where is the paste channel?
[03:08] <GTroy> two lines
[03:08] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell GTroy  about paste
[03:08] <Axioein> Aron: which install guide? the once from source?
[03:08] <phoul> /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/gnome-splashscreen-manager/splash_screens.rb:192:in `last_write': Unrecognized image file format (Gdk::PixbufError)
[03:08] <gnomefreak> GTroy,  your pm should have the link to pastebin
[03:08] <phoul> thats the first line
[03:08] <phoul> The rest looks correct
[03:08] <YouCeyE> hi.. i want to copy entire partition and back it up
[03:08] <YouCeyE> any better way than using dd?
[03:08] <GTroy> gnomefreak lets try #flood
[03:08] <BenUrban> YouCeyE: tar
[03:08] <FlannelKing> Anyone know how I can modify sensible-browser to use another browser?
[03:08] <YouCeyE> dd is copying empty data also
[03:09] <guido_> Axe: Are you installing MySQL or running it? If you're just installing, check out XAMPP ... it's a pretty cool all-in-one for Apache, MySQL, PHP and Perl
[03:09] <dragoon> any ideas about this problem http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/453442
[03:09] <YouCeyE> BenUrban, can u enlighten me how to use tar for backing up
[03:09] <GTroy> gnomefreak: can you help?
[03:09] <Axioein> I am writting a perl script to store data in a DB....
[03:09] <BenUrban> YouCeyE: tar -cpjvf /path/to/tar/file.tar.bz2 /
[03:09] <Axioein> I don't want anything else.
[03:09] <BenUrban> YouCeyE: that's the gist of it, but you'll want more options
[03:10] <BenUrban> YouCeyE: for example, you want to exclude the resulting tar file from the backup
[03:10] <gnomefreak> phoul,  im not real sure its saying that pic format isnt right. i would try to remove it using synaptic doa  full remove and reinstall gnome-art see if that fixes it
[03:10] <guido_> Axe: Sorry.. i only do php
[03:10] <YouCeyE> thanks BenUrban
[03:10] <GTroy> all I get is invalid user gnomefreak
[03:10] <Blah`> n00bers
[03:10] <Blah`> wake up
[03:10] <Axioein> Thats OK guido.
[03:10] <YouCeyE> does tar copy empty blocks?
[03:10] <YouCeyE> like dd?
[03:10] <Blah`> dragoon needs help with this ------------> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/453442 HELP HIM AS I TRYED AND IM LOST
[03:10] <gnomefreak> GTroy, please be less general that user
[03:10] <BenUrban> YouCeyE: nope, it only archives files
[03:10] <BenUrban> YouCeyE: and directories
[03:10] <YouCeyE> cool
[03:10] <chris86wm> hey yall here is a question: I use the "line-in"
[03:10] <chris86wm>  input to listen to TV in breezy. I noticed that everytime I restart the machine,
[03:10] <chris86wm> the line-in slider/control is set to zero, all the way down, I
[03:10] <chris86wm> constantly have to readjust it before I can watch/listen to television.
[03:10] <chris86wm>  Does anyone experience the same?
[03:10] <YouCeyE> do i need to mount the drive before i do tar?
[03:11] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell chris86wm  about paste
[03:11] <chris86wm> yeah sry
[03:11] <YouCeyE> dd doesnt need to mount the drive
[03:11] <Blah`> oh bye bye u fucking yanks
[03:11] <BenUrban> YouCeyE: note that it won't archive your partition table or bootloader
[03:11] <Dr_Acemaster> I have a wireless connection that was working fine till today all of a sudden it's not working, and I can't pull an ip address from my router, any ideas?
[03:11] <BenUrban> YouCeyE: yes, you need to mount it
[03:11] <BenUrban> YouCeyE: replace that final / with the mount point
[03:11] <YouCeyE> BenUrban, no problem
[03:11] <YouCeyE> i have /boot partition separately
[03:11] <BenUrban> you should mount it read only if you can
[03:11] <chris86wm> anyway does anyone know why it does that?
[03:11] <nickoli> anybody here install the winex cvs from transgaming.org
[03:11] <YouCeyE> i will do dd on that.. its just 100 mb
[03:11] <unless> brenner: Got it working, just had to get the order right.
[03:11] <dragoon> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/453442 ffs does anyone know, could i even just get some recognition that i asked a question
[03:11] <Dr_Acemaster> I've used wi-fi radar to find the network, but can't get it to connect
[03:12] <BenUrban> YouCeyE: when i said bootloader, i meant the one installed into the master boot record
[03:12] <brenner> unless: well done
[03:12] <GTroy> see I don't know which user name goes in which spot
[03:12] <BenUrban> YouCeyE: which is not in any filesystem
[03:12] <gnomefreak> invalade user while doing what?
[03:12] <YouCeyE> k BenUrban
[03:12] <GTroy> user or **user_name**
[03:12] <Dr_Acemaster> heh well dragoon, I can see that you've typed some text, but don't see your question
[03:12] <gnomefreak> GTroy,  did you install ubuntu?
[03:12] <GTroy> yep
[03:12] <navarone> YouCeyE,  you can also try g4l at freshmeat I think...you can download image for bootable cd and use it to boot and image a partiition to another or remote server
[03:12] <gnomefreak> the name you typed in during install is your user name
[03:13] <Dr_Acemaster> dragoon appears to be busy in here, could be neither of us will get any help :)
[03:13] <GTroy> by default ubuntu?
[03:13] <gnomefreak> same with the password
[03:13] <BenUrban> navarone: the advantage to using tar is that absolutely *any* bootable linux cd can restore the backup
[03:13] <YouCeyE> BenUrban, so for example if i want to just reinstall on a new hard drive.. i make partitions and copy /boot and tarred partition and should be able to restore the old, right?
[03:13] <chris86wm> nobody knows?
[03:13] <GTroy> so in the command line I leave as user:GTroy ?
[03:13] <gnomefreak> GTroy,  while installing ubuntu it asked for a user name and password that name you typed in than is your user name and the password is your sudo password
[03:13] <BenUrban> YouCeyE: you will need to do grub install again iirc
[03:13] <brenner> dragoon: you running dapper?
[03:13] <GTroy> gotcha
[03:14] <BenUrban> or whatever bootloader you use
[03:14] <navarone> Ben...I would think g4l is the same...but I'm not a cli commando like some so I favour it
[03:14] <dragoon> im running breezy
[03:14] <YouCeyE> my /boot has grub install in it
[03:14] <YouCeyE> along with mbr as its the first partition
[03:14] <gnomefreak> GTroy, the first part of the prompt is your user name the second part is the computer name
[03:14] <brenner> dragoon: what repo you getting skype fro?
[03:14] <brenner> *from
[03:14] <GTroy> hot diggity
[03:15] <dragoon> the skype one....
[03:15] <dragoon> err
[03:15] <gnomefreak> mine is boxerboy@linux$
[03:15] <GTroy> all I needed to know
[03:15] <gnomefreak> good
[03:15] <gnomefreak> ok im out for tonight ladies and gents
[03:15] <dragoon> deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[03:16] <brenner> dragoon: try seveas' deb.  ask ubotu about skype
[03:16] <dragoon> ubotu tell me about skype
[03:16] <brenner> dragoon: download it, then install with 'sudo dpkg -i <deb file>'
[03:17] <GTroy> gnomefreak still not getting it
[03:18] <Shady> How do I make a LAN? I have everything connected but the share folders aren't showing up on my other ocmp.
[03:18] <brenner> dragoon: it seemsd the issue you were having is actually described on the wiki page ubotu linked to
[03:18] <dragoon> oh really ?
[03:18] <brenner> i.e. the skype package doesn't list that qt one as a dependency
[03:18] <rhoffa> can someone tell me what i need to type in the terminal to have permission to a folder
[03:18] <brenner> so you'd need to install that one manualy beforehand
[03:19] <rhoffa> i copied something from cd and it wont let me rename the tags
[03:19] <dragoon> ok
[03:19] <brenner> dragoon: or just use seveas' one, which i'd assume he'd set that dependency up for us
[03:19] <dragoon> thanks
[03:19] <brenner> np
[03:19] <door> rhoffa: first type in ls -l to see who does supposedly own them
[03:20] <Shady> anyone want to help me out with a lan problem.
[03:20] <rhoffa> door - just in the terminal
[03:20] <lordlucless> Can dovecot sort mail to differen mailboxes based on the addressee's domain, on servers which serve more than one domain?
[03:20] <door> then, if it's root, type sudo chown [yourusername]  [filenames] 
[03:20] <rhoffa> i been through this before i just want everything i put on my desktop for me to have permission too
[03:20] <dsl3383> Hi all, will ubuntu run well on an old computer?
[03:20] <rhoffa> i dont want files i want my whole home directory
[03:21] <door> try a * then for the filename
[03:21] <MiSS_n00b> runs okay on my piece ofcrap
[03:21] <door> maybe?
[03:21] <bimberi> dsl3383: what specs (ram, disk, processor speed)
[03:21] <dragoon> easy
[03:21] <Arie-> Hey, how do I modify my modules file?
[03:21] <dsl3383> 64MB 6GB 233Mhz
[03:21] <brenner> dragoon: worked out?
[03:21] <dragoon> yea :)
[03:21] <paulito> has there been anyone here who have sucessfully installed a ubuntu instance in a windows based vmware session??
[03:21] <MiSS_n00b> it'll be sloooow
[03:21] <brenner> dragoon: seveas's deb?
[03:21] <dragoon> nah i used the skype howto
[03:22] <bimberi> dsl3383: gnome would be very slow ... i'd do a server install then try installing xubuntu-desktop
[03:22] <brenner> righto then
[03:22] <dsl3383> just trying to learn linux in a user friendly ditro
[03:22] <rhoffa> door it says too few arguments
[03:22] <unless> Anyone mind helping me with an Azureus install?
[03:23] <dsl3383> thanks I might be back....
[03:23] <brenner> dsl3383: like bimberi said, the default desktop environment (gnome) would be too slow.
[03:23] <rhoffa> i want permission to everything, all the time
[03:23] <clint-> hi all
[03:23] <rhoffa> and i dont know what to type to get that
[03:23] <door> hmm... i could have sworn it was chown [username]  [filenames]  or something
[03:23] <proxosi> is vlc player combatible with ubuntu?
[03:23] <clint-> anyone, know probably what would be my best bet to making my mp3's into.. flac or ogg? or?
[03:23] <door> rhoffa:  try man chown
[03:23] <rhoffa> in the brackets
[03:23] <brenner> proxosi: sure is.  there's a vlc package in the repo
[03:23] <clint-> and mpeg 's into moer compressed, but still nice, thats really my own problem with ubuntu :)
[03:24] <brenner> proxosi: universe repo to be exact
[03:24] <Khisanth> clint-: what do you hope to get out of doing that?
[03:24] <clint-> hope?
[03:24] <rhoffa> door - that means nothing to me i dont understand
[03:24] <clint-> its not a matter of hope, I am pushing myself everyday, and Into more systems than the adverage, .. etc..
[03:24] <Mighty_Whitey> Is ubuntu more compatible with most modems than other distros?
[03:24] <brenner> clint-: lossy -> lossy = more lossy
[03:24] <Khisanth> well you certainly aren't getting any better sound out of that
[03:24] <bshumate> clint-: converting from one lossy format to another is not typically a good thing(tm)
[03:24] <Coweater> Mighty_Whitey: no
[03:25] <clint-> Xandros Business 3., Linspire 5.0, PC BSD , Fedora Core ,
[03:25] <Mighty_Whitey> bummer
[03:25] <Khisanth> and flac would probably result in a loss of space :)
[03:25] <rhoffa> i tried sudo chown user/home
[03:25] <SCMark> bshumate: you can't trademark that!
[03:25] <rhoffa> didnt work
[03:25] <Mighty_Whitey> why are modem drivers such a nightmare in Linux?
[03:25] <linkd> to make it interesting
[03:25] <Khisanth> using a winmodem?
[03:25] <bshumate> SCMark: mah homegurl Martha has it trademarked
[03:25] <clint-> when I put mp3 cd in, or mpeg, that music videos on, but I am putting to this nice new 80 GB External , I got, usb 2.0 and firewire, but I don' use the firewire, F A Porsche,
[03:25] <Coweater> Mighty_Whitey: because manufacturers don't care about linux, get a decent hardware modem and you'll be fine for life
[03:26] <linkd> the problem is there are so many models of modems on the market. its hard to write drivers for all. and the manufactures tend to just write them for the commonly used platform.. windows
[03:26] <Mighty_Whitey> winmodem, conexant, usb, you name it I've tried it...
[03:26] <rhoffa> does anyone know the command so i have permission to my entire hard drive
[03:26] <clint-> Xandros runs Office real nice, even better than windows, and Power Point, the graphics are unreal ;)
[03:26] <SCMark> then let me just say : You can't trademark that! (tm)
[03:26] <Khisanth> Coweater: heh or move away from dialup :)
[03:26] <rhoffa> or at least my home folder so i dont have to deal with this permission bullshit anymore
[03:26] <Coweater> it's always good to have a backup
[03:26] <Mighty_Whitey> How much are serial modems on average?
[03:26] <clint-> rhoffa: , /etc/fstab
[03:27] <clint-> you want it to automount all of your partitions for you huh :)
[03:27] <clint-> funny thing, PC BSD does.. :D
[03:27] <jgrieves> how can i get hte latest ubuntu kernel source?
[03:27] <jgrieves> dapper
[03:27] <brenner> Mighty_Whitey: you talking about dialup modems?
[03:27] <jgrieves> kernel-source is like 2.4 :)
[03:27] <rhoffa> that didnt work clint
[03:27] <Mighty_Whitey> Yeah
[03:27] <SCMark> rhoffa: sudo -s
[03:27] <rhoffa> scmark - what after that
[03:28] <SCMark> rhoffa: enter your password and you are root.  Full acess to all your files
[03:28] <rhoffa> scmark - does that mean i have permission
[03:28] <rhoffa> for now own
[03:28] <Dr_Acemaster> wifi radar says connected to my network, but it can't pull an ip address, any ideas?
[03:28] <rhoffa> on
[03:29] <rhoffa> i just want permission, to all my stuff it seems like once i get it fixed ill save something somehwere else and ill need permission again
[03:29] <SCMark> rhoffa: you will have full permission in your terminal session... What are you having permission problems with?
[03:29] <rhoffa> i copied mp3s off a cd
[03:29] <rhoffa> tried to tag them
[03:29] <flodine> whats the command for kubutnu to be installed
[03:29] <rhoffa> says i cant
[03:29] <bimberi> flodine: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[03:29] <flodine> thxs
[03:29] <brenner> Mighty_Whitey: well, i can recommend this u.s. robotics one
[03:30] <bimberi> np :)
[03:30] <jgrieves> is 686 ok for pentium M chips?
[03:30] <Mighty_Whitey> which ?
[03:30] <rhoffa> scmark - i would like to have permission to /home/rhoffa
[03:30] <rhoffa> and everything underneath it so what do i need to type in the terminal for that
[03:31] <bshumate> rhoffa:  sudo chown -R rhoffa:rhoffa /home/rhoffa
[03:31] <SCMark> rhoffa: open a terminal, and type chmod 755 -R /home/rhoffa
[03:31] <brenner> Mighty_Whitey: hang on, i'll try and google it
[03:31] <Arie-> Hey, I need to add a line to modules how do I do that?
[03:31] <Mighty_Whitey> OK, thanks
[03:32] <SCMark> rhoffa: I guess bshumate's suggestion is better/more likely to work
[03:32] <bimberi> *3
[03:32] <rhoffa> i did them both
[03:32] <Arie-> Hello?
[03:32] <rhoffa> thanks you guys
[03:32] <brenner> Mighty_Whitey: and this dbase might be interesting: http://www.devidal.tv/~chris/winmodems/#Database
[03:32] <clint-> I'll just read debian bible.. funk this
[03:33] <FlannelKing>  Any way to get EVMS to stop checking a partition on boot?
[03:33] <Mighty_Whitey> Thank you
[03:33] <Arie-> Hello?
[03:36] <cyphase> is there a way to make icons default to the right in nautilus?
[03:36] <Shady> Can anyone help me out with my LAN,
[03:36] <cyphase> i wanna try out the Mac placement :)
[03:36] <clint-> I know what I'll do
[03:36] <desplesda> i have both wireless access and wired access for my laptop, is there any way to get the system to automatically route data through the wire when it's plugged in and through the wireless when it's not?
[03:36] <Hericus> I want to run debian. :(
[03:36] <clint-> I'm going to, use Sony Sound Forge 8, and I will just convert my mp3's to flac, or ogg.. :)
[03:36] <Hericus> I don't have the bandwidth..
[03:37] <clint-> Hericus:
[03:37] <clint-> all you need is the first binary cd
[03:37] <Hericus> I'm on dialup. :)
[03:37] <clint-> I have 3.1 sarge, Binary cd 1, you can just use 1 cd, and install all ther other apps later whatever
[03:37] <clint-> its np, I'll send to you however long it takes
[03:37] <desplesda> Hericus:  running debian on dialup is pretty painless, you just run your updates every week overnight or so
[03:37] <clint-> I'm getting into Fiber Optics m8 , in mY college
[03:38] <Hericus> That would be nice, however being in Nigeria currently is a pain in itself.
[03:38] <brenner> Mighty_Whitey: http://www.usr-emea.com/products/p-dialup-product.asp?prod=hom-messv92-ex&loc=unkg
[03:38] <clint-> i see
[03:38] <Hericus> desplesda, I wanted to get gentoo on the lappy..
[03:38] <clint-> can I mail it to you?
[03:38] <Arie-> can anyone see me?
[03:38] <varsendagger> where are my firefox bookmarks kept?
[03:38] <Mighty_Whitey> Thank you very much, I'll check it out
[03:38] <Hericus> clint-,  3 months is a long time ;p
[03:38] <desplesda> Arie-:  yes
[03:38] <Arie-> oh i was wondering
[03:38] <Hericus> Besides I'm moving house soon.
[03:38] <bimberi> Arie-: no :P
[03:38] <Hericus> Maybe then.
[03:38] <Arie-> cuz no one was answering
[03:38] <clint-> I'm getin 5 ubuntu cd's office. but I"m into PC BSD as well :)
[03:39] <clint-> talkin about speed.. 8-)
[03:39] <Hericus> I don't like PCBSD.
[03:39] <brenner> Mighty_Whitey: i have to use a serial-usb converter though
[03:39] <DGauge> how do I log into ubuntu as system admin? I have the username and password but the login says I can't login at that screen
[03:39] <varsendagger> what is PCBSD?
[03:39] <desplesda> varsendagger:  .mozilla/firefox/{default profile}/bookmarks.html
[03:39] <Hericus> sudo su dGauge.
[03:39] <varsendagger> ohhh
[03:39] <clint-> its KDE on FreeBSD
[03:39] <varsendagger> thanks
[03:39] <desplesda> DGauge:  GDM doesn't let you login as root using it
[03:39] <Hericus> The installation is a breeze aswell.
[03:39] <clint-> yes it is ;)
[03:39] <desplesda> DGauge:  if you want to have a root shell, run sudo -s
[03:40] <Hericus> sudo is flawed.
[03:40] <clint-> 12 minutes on this Acer Aspire 3613 WLCi , 512 DDR2, 1.5 ghz :D
[03:40] <Mighty_Whitey> would that converter work for other usb modems?
[03:40] <Mighty_Whitey> I have a usb USrobotics 5633a
[03:40] <Hericus> clint-, I hear acer lappys aren't really worth getting.
[03:40] <bimberi> DGauge: sudo -i - once logged in as a user with sudo access
[03:40] <clint-> no wonder they programmed Mac OS X off FreeBSD :)
[03:41] <Hericus> clint, what're your views?
[03:41] <DGauge> well I need a graphical interface for setting up some things I'm not very good at setting up say the modems in root shell
[03:41] <clint-> well I have had some problems with support for this acer aspire, ;) I got mine for free from college, I can't complain
[03:41] <brenner> you may not need one.  i just said that b/c this lappy doesn't have a serial port
[03:41] <clint-> but yeah, get something that supports linux defanately :D
[03:41] <Hericus> clint-, yeah..
[03:41] <brenner> Mighty_Whitey: only usb ones, so i had to get the converter
[03:41] <Hericus> A dell inspiron 9300.
[03:41] <clint-> don't try instaling debian to an acer laptop thats for sure ;)
[03:41] <Hericus> Huh?
[03:41] <Hericus> Why not?
[03:41] <Hericus> I wanted to get an Acer Travemate
[03:41] <Mighty_Whitey> OK, I'll have to look into one of those too
[03:42] <bimberi> DGauge: System -> Admin -> Networking
[03:42] <clint-> not worth the time m8, in my research of it, thats geared towards building on workstations, so you can add all the drivers and everthing , or just want to run a server
[03:42] <brenner> Mighty_Whitey: you don't have a serial port either?
[03:42] <clint-> 1 thing will say about  unbuntu is
[03:42] <clint-> its awesome for its hardware detection
[03:43] <DGauge> bimberi: so do "sudo -i " after a log in with my regular account and then do system->admin->network?
[03:43] <Mighty_Whitey> Yeah, I do just not a serial modem.
[03:43] <clint-> I'll work around the mp3 , and mpeg latencies
[03:43] <Hericus> clint-, what distro's other than deb. gentoo, do you run/
[03:43] <clint-> I'll just use my Sony Sound Forge 8, or ACID , or my CAkewakl Sonar software, and convert my mp3's to linux formats, and unix etc.. no worries
[03:44] <Arie-> Ok can someone help me reail quick?
[03:44] <bimberi> DGauge: no, just the latter
[03:44] <clint-> I run them on 1 hard drive, and my other workstation is different, I use Acronis Disk Director Suite 9
[03:44] <Arie-> Please?
[03:44] <clint-> for laptop
[03:44] <Hericus> ahh cool.
[03:44] <Fujitsu> Arie-, what?
[03:45] <Hericus> Should I stick with ubuntu? get deb? slackware? or should I just get gentoo on a lappy?
[03:45] <clint-> Xandros Business 3.0, Linspire 5.0, PC BSD, Fedora Core 4, waiting on 5 official to come out, Ubuntu, I installed the kde packages, that was a breeze,
[03:45] <Mighty_Whitey> Gotta go, thanks for the help brenner
[03:45] <Fujitsu> I don't like Fedora.
[03:45] <clint-> I even tried Suse, and Mandriva
[03:45] <bimberi> DGauge: "sudo -i" will give you a root login shell if you need it for CLI stuff.  Then you said you wanted GUI :)
[03:45] <brenner> Mighty_Whitey: np, good luck!
[03:45] <Mighty_Whitey> Thanks
[03:45] <clint-> I don't limit myself, thats me, I'm installing PC BSD to a pen drive
[03:45] <Hericus> clint-, the only distro that you run that I like in the list is ubuntu..
[03:45] <DGauge> darn that means my modem isn't supported by ubuntu :(
[03:45] <cee-jay> hi. can i install Breezy on a USB hard drive?  I have to use xp at work, but i'd like to sneak in Ubuntu when i can use it.  :)
[03:46] <clint-> well thats me
[03:46] <clint-> I don't care what people like that I like... 2 each of there own, I don't look for cridicts
[03:46] <Hericus> Aye.
[03:46] <Hericus> I'll just try running ubuntu + gentoo on it.. thing is HD space..
[03:46] <clint-> yes you can
[03:47] <clint-> even an external usb if you want
[03:47] <Tsingi> anyone have problems with devhelp not working?
[03:47] <Arie-> Fujitsu: How do I modify modules?
[03:47] <Fujitsu> Arie-, what do you mean by modify?
[03:47] <clint-> I just got this awesome 80 GB USB 2.0 and firewire, however I don' t use firewire, no need,but I'm not going install an operating system to it
[03:47] <Arie-> I need to add a line
[03:48] <cee-jay> OK, I should say that I just installed on my external USB drive, but booting after install--grub doesn't like the drive definitions..
[03:48] <clint-> you can take an internal hard drive, and dvd burner, and inclose them, and run them as usb , thats a gag
[03:48] <Fujitsu> sudo gedit /etc/modules, Arie-
[03:48] <Tsingi> also, it this isn't the channel to ask about fixing devhelp, is there somewhere else?
[03:48] <clint-> and make them external lol. they make cases for that lmao
[03:48] <clint-> never limit yourself :)
[03:48] <Arie-> thanks
[03:48] <Hericus> I'd probably get an external 60GB I saw.
[03:48] <Hericus> It was a bit pricy..
[03:49] <Hericus> I'd have to get the travelmate if I want an external then
[03:49] <clint-> I got this LACIE F A Porsche from my College,
[03:49] <cee-jay> clint -- are you saying I should install with the HDD in my PC first, then move it to a USB enclosure and boot?
[03:49] <Hericus> My budget is slightly low..
[03:49] <clint-> it was $199
[03:49] <Hericus> clint-, the college I'm going to would give me a lappy aswell so that'll make two :p
[03:49] <clint-> yes you can put hard drives, roms.. whatever in enclosures
[03:49] <Auto|MaG> Question for someone about wireless w/ madwifi - Im trying to get my wireless card to work, but I think i did something out of order. Dmesg is listing ath_hal and ath_pci before wlan. Dosent wlan need to come first?
[03:49] <clint-> they gave me 1 :)
[03:50] <clint-> ->  www.robertmorris.edu/cs/
[03:50] <clint-> --->  http://www.robertmorris.edu/cs/
[03:50] <clint-> theres link for ya
[03:50] <Hericus> Thanks.
[03:50] <Hericus> C.S huh? :p
[03:50] <clint-> np
[03:50] <cee-jay> ok, off to try this install method.  thanks clint!
[03:50] <Tsingi> hmm, maybe I asked the wrong question
[03:50] <clint-> yes
[03:51] <clint-> don't thank me.. thank Ubuntu :)
[03:51] <Royce> I'm not sure if I have samba configured correctly, when I browse networks, I find windows network, but inside that none of the systems show
[03:51] <DShepherd> hey
[03:51] <Shady> How do I install the codecs for DVD play in totem?
[03:51] <Hericus> clint-, http://www.abti-american.edu.ng thats the college I should be going to in jan.
[03:52] <clint-> 1 thing I can say is, I love running Xandros because of its .. awesome Codeweavers Cross Over, , I instal Office, and it runs like a charm, even power points graphics are great
[03:52] <bimberi> ubotu tell shady about restricted
[03:52] <DShepherd> !tell Shady about RestrictedFormats
[03:52] <clint-> cool
[03:52] <Tsingi> bI'm running ubuntu, hedgehog, devhelp does not work, I uninstalled and reinstalled it, still doesn't work, anyone know where to get help with this?
[03:52] <clint-> well, I just got in September..
[03:52] <DGauge> wth? my network isn't set the ppp0 isn't configed :/
[03:53] <clint-> I been studying systems though, for year and such... but I don't consider that studying, the more I Don't chat, and read, and apply the concepts. thats studying, and I got plenty of software and books to keep me busy,, both windows and open source
[03:53] <clint-> Rhinoceros 3d, Maxon, Autodesk 3ds Max 8, Maya, and so on
[03:53] <clint-> I'm also, going to be ordering an nfr, intrusion detection system, from www.nfr.com,
[03:54] <clint-> Highly into the internet security Hericus
[03:54] <Tsingi> is there another time of day when you can ask questions on this channel and get some kind of acknowlegement?
[03:54] <Hericus> Yes, yes of course.
[03:54] <Hericus> clint-, thing is, I'm more into the programming/web design kinda thang.
[03:54] <Hericus> I haven't really had time for sec.
[03:54] <clint-> me as well.. into it l
[03:55] <clint-> all*
[03:55] <Royce> anybody have any tips for getting access to windows networks?
[03:55] <Hericus> When I get into college and get two lappys I'll have time for all that :D
[03:55] <brenner> Tsingi: what probs you having with it?
[03:55] <clint-> ;)
[03:56] <Tsingi> brenner, it doesn't work.  May have something to do with my firefox install, not sure, does devhelp use the web browser?
[03:56] <bimberi> Royce: i have found the network browser a bit unreliable too - but had better luck just connecting to shares directly using Places -> Connect to Server
[03:56] <DGauge> I'm surprising my CIS instructors not only am I the first student at the college to go for all 7 major AAS majors, but I'm also the first one that is in the beginning (planning) stages of making my own OS
[03:56] <brenner> Tsingi: not sure.  the apt-cache entry says it uses gecko
[03:56] <DShepherd> Royce: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba?highlight=%28Samba%29 <-- try this
[03:56] <clint-> yeah, open source allows you to do alot DGauge
[03:56] <clint-> or file system?
[03:57] <Rage_> ZOMG Ubuntu rox... apt-get install acidrip...
[03:57] <clint-> or more like a custom build?
[03:57] <brenner> Tsingi: probably it's own viewer based on gecko engine
[03:57] <Tsingi> brenner: hmm, I guess you haven't heard of this before then.  I don't use it much, the firefox install was just a guess.
[03:58] <DGauge> My Operating System is just bare ideas right now but I know C/C++/ASM and have some great sites to look to for advice
[03:58] <Tsingi> brenner: I tried uninstalling it and reinstalling it, that did nothing.  Is there an error log somewhere it would write to, or that the app launcher would write to that I could check?
[03:58] <bimberi> Royce: um, note that you only need to install samba if you want ubuntu to act as a server.  smbclient (for using ubuntu as a client) is installed by default
[03:58] <DGauge> how do I config ppp0 under ubuntu? I can't seem to find the right option :/
[03:58] <clint-> are you studying algorithms?
[03:58] <Royce> bimberi: cool, thanx
[03:59] <brenner> Tsingi: how are you running it? thru terminal?
[03:59] <Royce> 201002
[04:00] <Tsingi> brenner: from the applications->programming->devhelp on the taskbar
[04:00] <hatred_> hey guys, got a networking question for you,
[04:00] <mars_> ?
[04:00] <hatred_> i can gain access to the net on my laptop via my computer
[04:00] <bob832> to change the port for ssh, do i edit the ssh_config or the sshd_config file?
[04:00] <ulinskie> what's the advantage of breezy from hoary?
[04:00] <hatred_> however the laptop & comp can't ping each other
[04:00] <hatred_> most oncfused
[04:00] <hatred_> any ideas?>
[04:01] <ulinskie> I am running hoary right now, but quite hesitant to upgrade it into breezy
[04:01] <Tsingi> brenner: tried from a terminal, heh, got: devhelp: error while loading shared libraries: libgtkembedmoz.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:01] <bimberi> bob2_: sshd_config
[04:01] <hatred_> bob832 -: i'd say sshd ?
[04:01] <Tsingi> brenner: looks like a mozilla thing
[04:01] <bob832> ok, thanks
[04:01] <clint-> router?
[04:02] <mars_> I can't find out the GPRS drivers
[04:02] <clint-> what type of network you have setup hatred_, how do you have the computers networked
[04:02] <Tsingi> brenner: I'll reinstall mozilla and see if that works, is there an ubuntu install for firefox 1.5?  I need it.
[04:02] <clint-> what type of firewalls are you running, what type of sysems are you running
[04:02] <clint-> systems*
[04:02] <hatred_> uhm, just 2 comps connected
[04:02] <brenner> Tsingi: *nod*.  you suspected firefox?  did you do a custom install or something?
[04:02] <hatred_> no switch
[04:02] <clint-> i see
[04:02] <bimberi> bob832: note that you can run it on multiple ports if you like - using multiple "Port #" lines
[04:02] <Tsingi> brenner: heh, yeah
[04:03] <MoonRanger> does ubuntu have a firewall enabled right after you install it from cd
[04:03] <clint-> I made a standard broadband dsl modem, into a router, which really, no full capabilities. but still served as a splitter :D
[04:03] <clint-> MoonRanger: , I believe so :)
[04:03] <brenner> Tsingi: not sure on the 1.5 thing.  i jsut use the default
[04:03] <brenner> Tsingi: hit the forum
[04:03] <brenner> or the wiki
[04:03] <sally_> what package do I need to install to make mplayer play encrypted dvds
[04:03] <bimberi> MoonRanger: a fresh ubuntu install has no external ports listening
[04:03] <bob832> bimberi: oh, i just wanted to change the default port to increase security but thats for the tip
[04:03] <Tsingi> brenner: I can't use the default, 1.5 has SVG support, working with it.
[04:04] <oblib> Does anyone know how to set up vncserver so that is starts a new X session for vnc access?
[04:04] <DGauge> how do I config ppp0?
[04:04] <mars_> I wanna use GPRS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:04] <bimberi> bob832: np :)
[04:04] <hatred_> DGauge pppconfig ?
[04:04] <linux_n00b_e> Where site could I go to to help me do MB to GB conversions?
[04:04] <Tsingi> brenner: can you give me some addies for those?
[04:04] <brenner> Tsingi: wiki.ubuntu.com and ubuntuforums.org
[04:04] <DGauge> oh yeah  heh :)
[04:04] <hatred_> ;)
[04:04] <whyameye> how do I remove a module permanently? If I use rmmod, the module reloads next time I reboot.
[04:04] <Tsingi> brenner: thanks dude.
[04:04] <clint-> Hericus: , want to see what I am into doing,, and DGauge, you might like this
[04:04] <MoonRanger> i just installed pidentd and its not working would it be because i have to do something with the firewall and port 113
[04:05] <Hericus> clint-, sure. :)
[04:05] <brenner> Tsingi: np
[04:05] <clint-> pimp this.. -> http://www.iconbase.com/
[04:05] <mars_> who can speak Chinese?
[04:05] <whyameye> anybody have experience here with the fgrlx ATI drivers?
[04:06] <pr1r> ok can someone help me... i have 2 monitors... having a problem setting up the agp card, its an nvidia geforce fx
[04:06] <DGauge> I'm looking
[04:06] <pr1r> i asked before and what i got isnt working
[04:06] <Hericus> clint-, thats pretty good photoshop work.
[04:06] <hatred_> hey, anyone have any ideas why the computers on my network can't see eachother?
[04:06] <hatred_> i can gain net access
[04:06] <Hericus> clint-, I'm somewhat dissapointed that you're selling them however.
[04:06] <hatred_> but can't ping the other computers on the network
[04:06] <hatred_> most confused...
[04:06] <clint-> ;)
[04:07] <bimberi> whyameye: if hotplug is installing the module then adding it to /etc/hotplug/blacklist will stop that
[04:07] <watnou> you need to define a gateway
[04:07] <DGauge> yeah that is some great work :)
[04:07] <clint-> I'm not the 1 selling them
[04:07] <mars_> if u r using to the windows....................
[04:07] <linux_n00b_e> If I have a 6448.6 MB hard drive, How many gigs is that? Can someone do the conversion for me?
[04:07] <Hericus> clint-, oh well thats okay then.
[04:07] <oblib> Does anyone know how to set up vncserver so that is starts a new X session for vnc access?
[04:07] <Hericus> My apologies.
[04:07] <Kyral> linux_n00b_e: approx 6.5
[04:07] <pr1r> lol
[04:07] <Kyral> if you use the 1000 MB = 1 GB
[04:07] <whyameye> bimberi: I'm specifically wondering about switching from the ATI to the fgrlx drivers. What if the fgrlx drivers, don't work for me? Can I go back?
[04:08] <watnou> hatred: you need to define a gateway
[04:08] <DGauge> clint-: I would hope not....I would hope you wouldn't charge such a ridiculous price for icons....I'd rather learn to make my own at that price :o
[04:08] <Kyral> it will be different if you use 1024 = 1 GB thing
[04:08] <clint-> going steal it though :)
[04:08] <clint-> won't ;)
[04:08] <bimberi> whyameye: as far as i know that's just a matter of changing the setting in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:08] <Hericus> gentoo has a great package management system however.
[04:08] <hatred_> watnou - thx, i'll go suss it out
[04:08] <linux_n00b_e> Thanks Kyral. Now if I have one that is 2111MB, how many gigs is that?
[04:08] <clint-> Hericus:
[04:08] <clint-> want to hear what i hear on Gentoo
[04:08] <hatred_> Hericus -: i much prefer gentoo's package management system to debians
[04:08] <pr1r> 2.1 g
[04:09] <Hericus> Go ahead clint-.
[04:09] <Hericus> hatred_, here, here.
[04:09] <clint-> I hear, its 1 of the most powerful, linux systems, and that its goes deep for hardware detection.. real deep. but thats what i hear. you know how those stories turn out. sometimes :)
[04:09] <pr1r> 1024 mb in a gb
[04:09] <linux_n00b_e> thanks prir
[04:09] <pr1r> np noob
[04:09] <hatred_> clint- : i use gentoo on this machine and it's incredibly powerful . versatile
[04:09] <JadussD> !w32codecs
[04:09] <linux_n00b_e> Thanks pr1r..
[04:09] <linux_n00b_e> lol
[04:09] <pr1r> does anyone know how to get nvidia drivers to work, i know its all over the forums but nothing seems to be working from there
[04:09] <whyameye> bimberi: the link I have for installing on Breezy says to modprobe the drivers. Do you have any experience with these drivers?
[04:10] <Hericus> I'm unsure about whether I should get gentoo on a lappy.
[04:10] <bimberi> whyameye: no sry
[04:10] <clint-> PC BSD, was really powerful, just how powerful is gentoo, I heard it uses BSD ports :)
[04:10] <dr_unpleasant> any word on firefox 1.5 being supported in ubuntu 1.5?
[04:10] <clint-> it is.. to me :)
[04:11] <dr_unpleasant> oops i mean ubuntu 5.10
[04:11] <mars_> i'm using the ubuntu linux,but the gprs drivers cannot be install.there no drivers for Linux.
[04:12] <Falstius> Hericus: keeping my laptop gentoo install running was getting to be a real pain
[04:12] <Falstius> ofcourse, I was running the whole thing with ~86
[04:12] <Hericus> Falstius, tell me, what was your lappy like?
[04:12] <bimberi> dr_unpleasant: not much word but there is this - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:12] <Hericus> specs.
[04:12] <linux_n00b_e> I've got a Linux box that looks like it has room for two extra hard drives. I see the extra power clip and cable connector for one. How could I put the third hard drive inside the box?
[04:12] <Falstius> Centrino with a prism based wireless, synaptic touchpad
[04:13] <pr1r> noob... you need raid
[04:13] <pr1r> i think
[04:13] <dr_unpleasant> bimberi: thanks Ill try that
[04:13] <clint-> want to know whats hillarious,, I installed Mandriva 2006, and it screwed up my network.. the biatch didn't even detect DCHP ;)
[04:13] <Fujitsu> linux_n00b_e, you plug it in?
[04:13] <bimberi> dr_unpleasant: np :)
[04:14] <Hericus> I'm going to just run gentoo on my desktop.
[04:14] <Hericus> -sigh-
[04:14] <Hericus> I'll run ubuntu + MS on my lappy.
[04:14] <clint-> 8-)
[04:14] <Falstius> Hericus: for hardware support, Gentoo is just fine
[04:14] <clint-> <---- mounts FReeSBIE to ram...... 8-)
[04:14] <linux_n00b_e> No what I'm saying is  do you think there could  another cable inside the box for hooking up a thrid drive or would I have to go and buy a differrent cable set in ordeeer to put two extra drives inside my box?
[04:15] <Falstius> just done run it with unstable packages :)
[04:15] <Hericus> (: I'm still unsure, gentoo is a very unstable distro.
[04:15] <Falstius> Ubuntu's ACPI issues seem better now atleast.
[04:15] <Hericus> I mean, I'm not sure I'll have the time, compiling packages over and over.
[04:15] <clint-> yep
[04:15] <Falstius> you can do gentoo with binary packages.
[04:15] <logical_mark> Hey guys. I just bought some logitech surround sound speakers and I have no clue how to set them up in linux. My motherboard came with a program for windows that let me select the jack functions...
[04:16] <Hericus> Eitherway..
[04:16] <Hericus> Well..
[04:16] <Hericus> We'll see.
[04:16] <clint-> it depends on really what you want it for :)
[04:16] <Howi> Wow.  Lots of people...
[04:16] <clint-> how about we just ,, tell people do away with all them distro's and we minimize them down to at least 20 :D
[04:17] <logical_mark> Hey did anyone see my last about setting up surround sound speakers? Could use the help.
[04:17] <Falstius> clint-: only power users use more than 6 of them
[04:17] <Falstius> logical_mark: I can't help you, but if you find anything out, my rear speakers aren't tweating either.
[04:18] <logical_mark> Falstius, yeah I will
[04:18] <clint-> well I guess I'm 1 of them
[04:18] <clint-> Acronis Disk Director Suite 9.. OS Selector, peopple that are ambition, and don't limit themselves. has nothing to do with being a power user
[04:19] <Hericus> I'm not going to be using the lappy for a server or anything.
[04:19] <Hericus> Just to run a distro on..
[04:19] <Hericus> So ubuntu would be a better bet.
[04:19] <clint-> exactly. why would ya ;)
[04:19] <misfit_toy> soon we will be back to OS on a ROM and you just pop in the distro you want, Atari 800 all over again ;)
[04:19] <clint-> Hericus: , http://www.scitechsoft.com/
[04:19] <Royce> I am trying to mount a windows share, i didn't have /home/username/mnt, so I made a mnt dir, that didnt have the effect I thought it would
[04:19] <clint-> take my name out of the "we" :)
[04:20] <bimberi> ubotu tell Royce about mountwindows
[04:20] <mustard5> logical_mark, you using alsamixer?
[04:20] <Falstius> I run a RHEL3 clone on my laptop since that's what I'm targeting work apps for.
[04:20] <clint-> whats limits.. heh
[04:20] <Falstius> but it works well (except it won't turn off)
[04:20] <Hericus> clint-, do you have aim, or yahoo or something?
[04:20] <tonyyarusso> Why doesn't changing my "preferred applications" change the behavior of the mail icon in the toolbar?  (In Breezy; it's still pointing to evolution.)
[04:20] <clint-> hee
[04:21] <clint-> kopete,, :)
[04:21] <clint-> I don't talk instant messaging much, I run a room on Filetopia..
[04:21] <clint-> I could create Ubuntu like snap.. but I won't.. :)
[04:21] <mustard5> tonyyarusso, I think you would need to manually edit the icon
[04:22] <mustard5> tonyyarusso, changing the preferred app would only change the default that it chooses when you hit a mail link of some kind in another app
[04:22] <clint-> oops.. too late..already done
[04:22] <clint-> ;)
[04:22] <C_J_Pro> In what folder is the path usually stored?
[04:22] <C_J_Pro> erm
[04:22] <C_J_Pro> file
[04:22] <Murrlin> not sure, but I'll ask here. did I miss anything when installing Windowmaker? the usual (?) wm app menu is missing
[04:22] <Murrlin> submenu
[04:22] <tonyyarusso> mustard5: I see.
[04:22] <clint-> Hericus: , what operating system are you on now.. then I show you communication peer to peer, client,, security..  evolution
[04:22] <watnou> *Yawn*
[04:23] <clint-> irc, opera, etc.. irc clients. have nothing on this
[04:23] <mustard5> tonyyarusso, what mail app do you want as default?
[04:23] <Hericus> Microsoft(TM) Windows(TM) XP Professional.
[04:23] <tonyyarusso> mustard5: That would be really slick if it could change the icon too; maybe an idea for future releases.
[04:23] <tonyyarusso> mustard5: Thunderbird.
[04:23] <clint-> k .. 1 sec.. I'll private msg u
[04:23] <watnou> g@@P
[04:23] <mustard5> tonyyarusso, I recall there being some HOW to's in the forum on Thunderbird...let me check
[04:23] <bimberi> C_J_Pro: globally in /etc/profile with user additions in ~/.bash_profile
[04:23] <logical_mark> mustard5, no I don't know what or where
[04:23] <clint-> Hericus:
[04:23] <clint-> are you on windows now?
[04:24] <Hericus> clint-, yes.
[04:24] <clint-> k
[04:24] <TerrapinOrange> Hey folks.  I'm fairly new to ubuntu.  I just tried to apt-get dist-upgrade from hoary to breezy and hosed my libc6 somehow.  Would someone mind helping me clean things up, if that's even possible?  I can run some commands, but ls and tar at very least keep crapping out on me.
[04:24] <clint-> dl this.. http://www.filetopia.org
[04:24] <phiqtion> how can i get mp3 on ubuntu?
[04:24] <tonyyarusso> mustard5: Don't bother; I was still able to pull the command from pref. apps.
[04:24] <mushroomblue> hi. how ugly is an upgrade from Warty to Breezy?
[04:24] <clint-> I use it, to support all different types of linux systems. help users aroudn the world,, provide security.. etc.. etc :)
[04:24] <clint-> around*..
[04:25] <Fujitsu> mushroomblue, I don't know. There has been a successful upgrade from Hoary, but I know not about Warty.
[04:25] <TokenBad> in xchat is there a way to block colors in channel text?
[04:25] <logical_mark> mustard5: I would love a jump start on getting them working.
[04:25] <clint-> look for 3.04 d
[04:25] <Madpilot> mushroomblue: you'll probably want to do that in two stages, warty - hoary, then hoary - breezy
[04:25] <mushroomblue> hrm. good idea.
[04:25] <mustard5> logical_mark, have you installed alsamixer?
[04:26] <logical_mark> yes
[04:26] <TerrapinOrange> The error I'm getting is:  /lib/libpthread.so.0: symbol __libc_stack_end, version GLIBC_PRIVATE not defined in file ld-linux.so.2 with link time reference
[04:26] <TerrapinOrange> When I try to run ls or tar.
[04:26] <logical_mark> mustard5: yes it is installed
[04:26] <mushroomblue> hrm.
[04:26] <mustard5> tonyyarusso, here is an old 5.04 how to on getting firefox icons and thunderbird icons... http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34354&highlight=thunderbird+mozilla
[04:26] <mushroomblue> I'm gonna take the risk.
[04:26] <cwesterburg> how do I set the password so that I can run SU?
[04:26] <mushroomblue> if it breaks, I just run over and install breezy from scratch.
[04:26] <mushroomblue> cwesterburg: sudo passwd root
[04:26] <mustard5> logical_mark, oh ok...I don't know what to do from there..but I know that can control the surround sound :)
[04:26] <cwesterburg> thanks mush
[04:26] <clint-> Hericus:  you still here?
[04:27] <tonyyarusso> mustard5: Thanks.
[04:27] <Hericus> Yeah, just a sec.
[04:27] <clint-> k
[04:27] <clint-> you'll like it, I swear
[04:27] <logical_mark> mustard5: but I cannot control the jacks and how the audio is sent there... thanks though
[04:27] <proxosi> where does flash for ff locate in synatpic packagage manager?
[04:27] <clint-> m8, I was telling people at my school. how i could just build them a custom Windos Vista
[04:27] <mushroomblue> hrm.
[04:27] <Hericus> hah
[04:28] <clint-> yeah lol
[04:28] <mushroomblue> is apt-get dist-upgrade the only way to upgrade every package?
[04:28] <clint-> not that hard lmfao
[04:28] <mushroomblue> cos it's only updating 31 of them.
[04:28] <Hericus> Done
[04:28] <Fujitsu> mushroom, are you sure!!??
[04:28] <TokenBad> in xchat is there a way to block colors in channel text?
[04:28] <clint-> it has to do with some service upgrades, modifiation, drivers.. support.. themes appearance,, enhanced shell..
[04:28] <clint-> and Windows favorite part, making it so hard for you to burn dvds :D
[04:28] <mushroomblue> Fujitsu: well, according to apt, that's all that's being upgraded.
[04:28] <mushroomblue> which confuses the hell out of me.
[04:28] <Madpilot> !tell mushroomblue about upgrade
[04:28] <C_J_Pro> is it normal for a $PATH to be about 2+ pages in length
[04:28] <C_J_Pro> ?
[04:28] <clint-> which were all against right ;)
[04:28] <Hericus> heh
[04:28] <Hericus> ya
[04:29] <jota> some body speak spanish???
[04:29] <mustard5> !es
[04:29] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:29] <Dex-Freudii> jota: I do but it's not nettiquette
[04:29] <thoreauputic> mushroomblue: you changed your sources.list to breezy ?
[04:29] <clint-> your probably going use Hericus as your name or nick right?
[04:29] <mushroomblue> thoreauputic: yah.
[04:29] <Hericus> yup
[04:29] <clint-> Zoo is the nick I go by, clint is my real name
[04:30] <jota> thank
[04:30] <thoreauputic> mushroomblue: you ran  sudo apt-get update afterwards?
[04:30] <marky> woot woot ubuntu fecking rocks
[04:30] <bimberi> jota: try #ubuntu-es
[04:30] <clint-> good job, I see you figure things out quick
[04:30] <Fujitsu> marky, you said it!
[04:30] <jota> ok
[04:30] <marky> just got it
[04:30] <mushroomblue> thoreauputic: yep.
[04:30] <mushroomblue> hrm.
[04:30] <Fujitsu> Liking it, marky?
[04:30] <mushroomblue> how do you get it to install all dependencies?
[04:30] <marky> dam  , the best flavour of linux ever
[04:31] <mushroomblue> heh. I still like gentoo better, but yay for remote administration.
[04:31] <thoreauputic> mushroomblue:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  should pull in your new breezy - if not, I'm puzzled too
[04:31] <whyameye> needing help with fgrlx drivers from ATI....
[04:31] <mushroomblue> thoreauputic: no. I need other stuff.
[04:31] <mushroomblue> ack. hold on.
[04:31] <marky> got it on mt dell d600
[04:31] <marky> my*
[04:31] <jack_> Hello?
[04:31] <marky> hello jack
[04:32] <whyameye> marky: you are running a D600? I have one and am trying to get Breezy running on it. Can you help? Wondering about ACPI and video drivers...
[04:32] <jack_> Phew...
[04:32] <jack_> i was worried i was all alone on this
[04:32] <jack_> anyone have experience with drivers for wireless cards?
[04:32] <marky> i downloaded ubuntu last night , burnt it tis morning put in in the drive and started
[04:32] <marky> everything worked
[04:33] <whyameye> jack-: what is specifically the problem?
[04:33] <marky> wireless etc
[04:33] <marky> ubuntu is the tits
[04:33] <whyameye> marky: have you tried suspend and hibernate? What is battery consumption like?
[04:33] <jack_> i am following the instructions using the ndiswrapper on the wiki
[04:33] <deltron> anyone here tri-boot with xp/xp pro x64/ubuntu?
[04:33] <marky> not unplugged it yet
[04:33] <marky> i'm duel boot with xp
[04:33] <vegos> does anyone no how to fix a clock that goes 2 times faster than it should be?
[04:33] <Falstius> deltron, I don't have xp x64 :(
[04:33] <deltron> hah
[04:34] <jack_> but i do not have the .inf files it is talking about, anywhere on the drivers CD that came with the card
[04:34] <deltron> oh, it's gonna be ubuntu 64 :)
[04:34] <Madpilot> marky: if you want to help out, you could fill in a Laptop report at the Ubuntu wiki - I'll dig the URL up, if you're interested
[04:34] <marky> yeah sure
[04:34] <jack_> and searching online for them just comes up with EXEs that install the stuff for windows
[04:34] <marky> gimmie the url
[04:34] <clint-> now he can tell ya ;)
[04:34] <jack_> so i am a little confused overall
[04:34] <whyameye> jack-: what is the make and model of the card?
[04:34] <marky> what are you tryi ng to install jack?
[04:34] <mustard5> vegos, I'm just searching forums for something I have read about that
[04:34] <vegos> thanks
[04:35] <Madpilot> marky: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTesting
[04:35] <marky> ok i do it now brb
[04:35] <whyameye> marky: if you choose to explore ACPI, I'll bet you will have to disable the parallel port and/or the legacy USB from the BIOS. This was the case for me on the D600.
[04:36] <jack_> Well i installed the ndiswrapper program that is supposed to help me get the .inf drivers working
[04:36] <marky> <~d600, 1.6mhz, wireless , , 1gigram, 30gig hd, no bluetooth
[04:36] <Falstius> jack_: what video card is it?
[04:36] <jack_> but i am basically blindly following the wiki's guide, not knowing anything about what it is actually doing
[04:36] <jack_> it's a wireless lan card
[04:36] <whyameye> marky: also check and see if your 3d OpenGL screensavers don't make the computer crash. I personally think you should *not* post on LapTop testing until you have tested more thoroughly. I have a D600 too and it only *appears* to work 100%. Dig deeper...
[04:36] <Falstius> jack_: er what wlan card?  (that was a little typo :))
[04:36] <jack_> i have the information on it, using the lspci command
[04:36] <marky> ok
[04:36] <jack_> oh
[04:36] <jack_> heh
[04:37] <marky> give me the shovel  , were am i digging?
[04:37] <bob832> is there a command that tells you what directory you are in?
[04:37] <marky> i'm on the d600 now
[04:37] <jack_> "broadcom corporatonjn BCM4306"
[04:37] <jack_> er corporation
[04:37] <_jason> bob2_, pwd
[04:37] <hatred_> bob832 -: pwd
[04:37] <_jason> grrr
[04:37] <Madpilot> marky: to add your machine to that testing page, you mean?
[04:37] <mustard5> vegos, check this thread out http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=53094&highlight=clock+double+speed
[04:37] <whyameye> jack_: I just installed this card on my Dell! Gimme a minute and I'll set you up...
[04:37] <_jason> bob2_, sorry, name-completion error
[04:37] <bob832> thanks _jason and hatred
[04:37] <jack_> oh great thanks!!
[04:37] <Falstius> the older broadcom used the prism chipset, you should try the hermes driver ...
[04:38] <jack_> i feel so helpless without internet on a computer, it's been so long
[04:38] <Falstius> (easier than ndiswrapper)
[04:38] <marky> what should i test? it looks lick open gl is all good
[04:38] <marky> had no crashes, no probs at all
[04:38] <marky> i love ubuntu
[04:38] <Murrlin> I second this
[04:38] <jack_> haven't you only been running it for less than a day though?
[04:38] <dragoon> mm ubuntu
[04:39] <whyameye> marky: you don't know if ACPI works. And...leave an OpenGL ScreenSaver running for a few hours...
[04:39] <marky> few hours?
[04:39] <Madpilot> marky: you've got a wiki account? (also, if you're asking someone in particular about something, please start the line with their nick! thanks)
[04:39] <jack_> Madpilot: You rule!
[04:40] <ULffuntu> Madpilot: is there a way of automating that starting a line with someones nick?
[04:40] <marky> mad surely if your d600 dies after "a few hours" on screen saver then the radeon is o hot
[04:40] <whyameye> jack-: go to filesearching.com and do a search for bcmwl5a.inf. This is the file you want to modprobe using ndiswrapper....
[04:40] <init_bud> anyone know of an easy to use or GUI ftp server app?
[04:40] <Hericus> I love gnome.
[04:40] <marky> lemme plug a usb keyboard in
[04:40] <Hericus> I want to try xfce though.
[04:40] <marky> i'm normally a pc man
[04:40] <misfit_toy> init_bud, gftp
[04:40] <jack_> whyameye: Thanks! i'll go do that
[04:40] <whyameye> marky: it runs fine in XP. It's an openGL ATI driver issue. You can find it documented on the web...
[04:41] <Madpilot> ULffuntu: tab-completion - type the first four letters or so of someone's nick then hit the TAB key
[04:41] <bushito> xfce?? whats xfce??
[04:41] <init_bud> misfit_toy, can i just apt-get it?
[04:41] <misfit_toy> init_bud, oops that's a client not a server
[04:41] <jack_> marky: did you just get sick of windows trying to rape it's self?
[04:41] <init_bud> grrr.
[04:41] <ULffuntu> Madpilot, cool
[04:41] <Falstius> xfce is slimed down windows manager similar to gnome
[04:41] <ULffuntu> except mine is a comma
[04:41] <marky> i've seen the susend ram feature prob, but i've had no probs
[04:41] <jmack> whats the bash command to create a file?
[04:41] <misfit_toy> Falstius, xfce is similar to gnome like a cat is to a dog! lol
[04:42] <nmsa> jmack: touch filename
[04:42] <ULffuntu> Madpilot: fixed it
[04:42] <jmack> nmsa: thank you
[04:42] <whyameye> marky: you have tried ACPI? I thought you said you haven't unplugged it...
[04:42] <ULffuntu> thx
[04:42] <marky> yay, plug in a usb keyboard(packard bell) and it works straight away
[04:42] <bushito> lol misfit_toy xD
[04:42] <misfit_toy> howdy bushito
[04:43] <bushito> is there any recommended page for putting your gnome "Pretty"
[04:43] <marky> earlier i went out with it connected to my garmin gps and it was cool  , whats you problem with acpi?
[04:43] <bushito> misfit_toy, =p
[04:43] <misfit_toy> bushito, http://gnome-look.org
[04:43] <marky> got to roll a bifta be back in 2 secs
[04:43] <Madpilot> !themes
[04:43] <misfit_toy> bushito, and http://art.gnome.org
[04:43] <Madpilot> bleh
[04:43] <Madpilot> !tell bushito about themes
[04:43] <Matthew> have you experts ever found a wireless card and / or ethernet card that WOULD NOT work in ubuntu? i've tried like 5 distributions this week. and i'm ready to settle.
[04:44] <mushroomblue> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5497
[04:44] <misfit_toy> Madpilot, uboto expired?
[04:44] <mushroomblue> how do I fix that?
[04:44] <misfit_toy> *ubotu
[04:44] <misfit_toy> !tovid
[04:44] <ubotu> [tovid]  possibly the greatest video encoder, with a GUI, located at http://tovid.sourceforge.net
[04:44] <misfit_toy> nope, he's still alive
[04:44] <Madpilot> misfit_toy: no, but that themes factoid is too long for ubotu to display in-channel
[04:44] <dragoon> try apt-get -f install
[04:44] <whyameye> marky: it won't come out of hibernate consistently....unless I disable the parallel port and legacy USB from the BIOS. This is documented for the D610 and apparently it is the case for my D600, at least. Look, if you want to post on Laptop Testing, go ahead. I would just suggest thorough testing is the most responsible thing to do first.
[04:44] <jack_> whyameye: okay, i've got the file and i can burn it across to mr.ubuntu, what next?
[04:44] <misfit_toy> Madpilot, lol, now that's funny
[04:44] <hatred_> anyone know where i can get apt sources for ubuntu ????
[04:45] <thoreauputic> !sources
[04:45] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:45] <hatred_> thx thoreauputic :)
[04:45] <marky> apparently theres a kernel patch to fix that
[04:45] <thoreauputic> hatred_: no worries :)
[04:45] <mustard5> Matthew, there is a list of cards and the problems associated with them here..it might be relevant https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[04:45] <Matthew> is there a way to uninstall gnome after installation?
[04:46] <ph3r> After I logon Ubuntu, Gnome logon runs fine, but after that a error message say "|" pops up with an okay option only. After that terminal loads, but no GUI, what do I do? Or does anyone know?
[04:46] <robotgeek> Matthew: if you had chosen server install, it would not have installed everything
[04:46] <marky> ubuntu is such an approachable flavour of linux  , i really really thank the guys who made it
[04:46] <Matthew> robot. i have done 2 server installs and one full
[04:46] <Matthew> robot, mustard- i have not been able to get the onboard ethernet to work
[04:47] <whyameye> jack-: go to http://www.antoniocheca.com/wp/content-text/ubuntu-inspiron6000.html and try these directions for the wireless. Let me know.
[04:47] <marky> it flys on my d600 (dell) laptop
[04:47] <Matthew> so, no luck loading x, etc
[04:47] <bushito> are they any games for ubuntu?? lol xD i want games!! got ried of only work!! =3
[04:47] <marky> put it this way i used to hate this laptop till i found ubuntu
[04:47] <ph3r> bushito get Cedega
[04:47] <jack_> Whyameye: okay much thanks! i'm AFK for the next moments...
[04:47] <robotgeek> Matthew: were you the same guy with the eepro stuff?
[04:47] <mustard5> marky, :)
[04:47] <ph3r> errr, could someone help me quick?
[04:47] <bushito> Cedega = meanie xP
[04:47] <marky> i want to install skype though and am strugling
[04:48] <thoreauputic> !skype
[04:48] <ubotu> skype is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:48] <robotgeek> thoreauputic: too fast for me :)
[04:48] <Matthew> robot no eepro
[04:48] <Falstius> bushito: nethack, the only game you'll ever need :)
[04:48] <thoreauputic> robotgeek: heh :)
[04:48] <marky> wicked brb  i'll have a llok
[04:48] <bushito> Falstius, lol xD riighttt..... =P
[04:48] <mustard5> ph3r, you looked over your logs for any errors?
[04:48] <robotgeek> Matthew: yeah, then i have no clue. that's why i asked. i tht i had seen this one before :)
[04:48] <ph3r> I have quite a few.
[04:48] <Matthew> robot. i have tried ubuntu, dsl, gentoo, and most recently vector. each supported a different subset of my hardware.
[04:48] <ph3r> mustard5
[04:49] <mustard5> ph3r, you used the pastebin before?
[04:49] <russ> Hey, I'm trying to share a directory on my Ubuntu comp. over the network with my windows comp. I can see the computer, but it asks for a username/pass to access it (which I don't want).
[04:49] <Falstius> Matthew: have you tried knoppix?
[04:49] <russ> This works the other way around - I can access windows shared directories from ubuntu
[04:49] <mustard5> ph3r, are you in terminal now?
[04:49] <ph3r> Yes, I am.
[04:49] <bushito> Knoppix!!! xP!!!
[04:49] <mustard5> ph3r, ah ok..pastebin might be difficult then :)
[04:49] <mushroomblue> russ: edit /etc/samba/smb.conf and make it not care about passwords
[04:49] <mustard5> ph3r, try joining #flood
[04:49] <ph3r> mustard5, i've used pastebin before, can you score me a link?
[04:49] <mushroomblue> or guest ok
[04:50] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[04:50] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[04:50] <Falstius> Matthew: I know its ugly, but it will give you a good idea if your hardware is supportable :)
[04:50] <some_dude> where is smbmount ?
[04:50] <siorai> what's the syntax for dpkg ?
[04:50] <russ> some_dude - I had to apt-get install smbmount
[04:51] <mustard5> siorai, you can type man dpkg for the manual
[04:51] <siorai> thanks
[04:51] <russ> mushroomblue - shouldn't I be able to log in with my username/pass on my Linux box to access the shares froom windows? Because I can't.
[04:51] <some_dude> russ i've tryed that and not nothing
[04:51] <russ> sudo?
[04:51] <some_dude> can't find package
[04:52] <russ> some_dude - You might have to add some repositories.
[04:52] <some_dude> ah
[04:52] <russ> I'm new at this too, so I don't know really
[04:52] <mushroomblue> russ: no. samba is retarded. as superuser (root/sudo), you have to run "smbpasswd -a <user>"
[04:52] <mushroomblue> russ: then it'll work.
[04:52] <Matthew> fastius- i haven't done knoppix yet. so far, all of the hardware except the wireless has come up
[04:52] <Madpilot> siorai: for installing a .deb, do "sudo dpkg -i foo.deb"
[04:52] <Matthew> and i've seen other people posting who had success with this wireless..
[04:52] <Matthew> ndiswrapper stuff
[04:52] <mustard5> Matthew, you tried the ndiswrapper how to?
[04:52] <robotgeek> Matthew: you also have a wireless problem?
[04:53] <siorai> *nods*
[04:53] <siorai> that's all I was looking for, but I had just foudn in the in the manual
[04:53] <robotgeek> Madpilot: my wireless is all GPL, ty :)
[04:53] <DJ_Necrogami> how do i check to see what process is running on port 80
[04:53] <Matthew> mustard- i've tried it all. if ndiswrapper seems to work, then wireless config doesnt.
[04:53] <russ> Yay - thanks, mushroomblue. That worked.
[04:53] <mushroomblue> sure.
[04:54] <mushroomblue> now, someone help me with my problem.
[04:54] <mushroomblue> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5497
[04:54] <Matthew> my question - i like the nice ubuntu types.
[04:54] <Madpilot> robotgeek: one of those DLink wrg45s or whatever they are?
[04:54] <mushroomblue> how do I get that to stop?
[04:54] <Matthew> i'm wondering whether i should come back to the brown.
[04:54] <Matthew> or try gentoo again.
[04:54] <mushroomblue> Matthew: I still use gentoo.
[04:54] <mustard5> Matthew, whatever works is best :)
[04:54] <mushroomblue> Matthew: it makes me less angry.
[04:54] <robotgeek> Madpilot: no, i use a Ralink rt2500 chipset
[04:54] <Sammy76> is there any problems with sata and ubuntu?
[04:54] <mushroomblue> Sammy76: not really.
[04:54] <some_dude> i need to copy my xorg.conf and install debian
[04:54] <mushroomblue> Sammy76: if your chipset is supported, then no.
[04:54] <DJ_Necrogami> nvm
[04:54] <pr1r> anyone know how to get my other monitor working... ive read the wiki file on the nvidia driver and it doesnt seem to be working
[04:54] <Madpilot> Sammy76: I've got a SATA HD as my only HD, it runs just fine
[04:55] <Sammy76> i can't get it to intstall
[04:55] <Sammy76> it hangs at the very first screen when I boot the cd
[04:55] <marky> poop
[04:56] <Siph0n> hey, neone ever have a problem that when u try and run firefox it just opens and closes?
[04:56] <Dex-Freudii> is there a ubuntu for Palm?
[04:56] <marky> can't get skype installed
[04:56] <marky> skype:
[04:56] <marky>  Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>=3:3.3.3.2) but it is not installable
[04:56] <mustard5> marky, how are you trying to do it?
[04:56] <mushroomblue> why do dependencies say that they're not going to be installed?
[04:56] <marky> hmm
[04:56] <mushroomblue> that's really stupid.
[04:56] <mustard5> marky, there is an easier way
[04:56] <mustard5> !skype
[04:56] <ubotu> rumour has it, skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:56] <mustard5> marky, download the .deb
[04:56] <marky> i went
[04:56] <ULffuntu> Siph0n: Have you tried deleting your .mozilla to start over
[04:56] <marky> the rumour is right
[04:56] <marky> i tried that aswell
[04:56] <Siph0n> ULffuntu, no havent tryed.... one sec :)
[04:56] <Dex-Freudii> mushroomblue, maybe because you have installed another version of what you need to install
[04:57] <mushroomblue> Dex-Freudii: possible. but what do I do to fix that?
[04:57] <Matthew> ok. well. i'm going to leave you folx alone tonight. who knows, maybe i'll study for my final exam tomorro wmorning
[04:57] <mustard5> marky, are you installing the .deb from the skype website?
[04:57] <Dex-Freudii> mushroomblue, uninstall those packages
[04:57] <mushroomblue> oh god.
[04:57] <mushroomblue> mmkay.
[04:57] <Dex-Freudii> mushroomblue, it may cause some problems
[04:57] <Dex-Freudii> be careful
[04:57] <Sammy76> anyone know why it would hang at the first screen when tryingt to install?
[04:57] <mushroomblue> boy howdy
[04:57] <marky> skype .balh .balh.deb  , archive not supported
[04:57] <Siph0n> ULffuntu, k, lol guess deleting .mozilla gets rid of all my bookmarks? :) it worked tho :)
[04:57] <marky> mustard5 yes i was
[04:57] <Dex-Freudii> is there ubuntu for PocketPC?
[04:58] <mustard5> marky, thats the wrong one
[04:58] <pr1r> anyone know how to get my other monitor working... i already checked the wiki... it didnt give a good description... it didnt work... nvidia drivers... someone
[04:58] <pr1r> please
[04:58] <Dex-Freudii> mushroomblue, what do you want to install?
[04:58] <marky> thats why it don't work then
[04:58] <opnsrc> I have Smeg 0.7.5 and for some reason when i use it to edit my menus sometimes the changes don't take place
[04:58] <mushroomblue> uh. ubuntu-desktop
[04:58] <mustard5> marky yep :)
[04:58] <marky> ;)
[04:58] <mushroomblue> Dex-Freudii: that's what's giving me the problem.
[04:58] <pr1r> before i put my foot thru the monitor
[04:58] <opnsrc> even when I re start the computer, the changes don't take place. Sometimes they would and sometimes the don't
[04:58] <jack_> whyameye: alright, i followed those stepslisted there
[04:58] <mustard5> marky, go the the second link that ubotu showed above
[04:58] <pr1r> damn rangers already pissed me off
[04:58] <opnsrc> how do I fix it, are there any other menu editors
[04:58] <pr1r> losing in ot... stupid bs
[04:58] <jack_> whyameye: but i get a llist of errors with ndiswrapper -L rather than a list of good things saying it's working!
[04:58] <marky> skype or no skype it still rocks
[04:58] <Dex-Freudii> mushroomblue, did you try apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[04:58] <marky> ok mustard5
[04:59] <mushroomblue> Dex-Freudii: yep, and got http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5497
[04:59] <whyameye> jack-: isn't it lower-case l? In any case, what are the errors?
[04:59] <jack_> yeah it is lower case
[04:59] <jack_> it lists the installed drivers
[04:59] <mustard5> marky, then click on the 'breezy extras' link and look for skype
[04:59] <jack_> which include my previous attempts without the correct file
[04:59] <marky> thanks
[05:00] <jack_> but they are all listed as "invalit driver!"
[05:00] <jack_> er invalid*
[05:00] <opnsrc> I know the file is in /home/opnsrc/.config/menus
[05:00] <mustard5> marky, that one will work..but you should know that skype takes forever to load ...up to 20 seconds
[05:00] <Dex-Freudii> mushroomblue, try apt-get upgrade ubuntu-desktop
[05:00] <whyameye> jack-: so you have to uninstall the previous attempts. rmmod ndiswrapper.
[05:00] <Aron_Figaro> Hey guys - you HAVE to hear this one. My brother was playing around with a LiveCD and managed to **** Mount a DRIVE on top of his Root directory!! ****
[05:00] <jack_> "rmmod ndiswrapper" is the command to remove erors?
[05:00] <marky> k
[05:01] <jack_> er erroneous drivers?
[05:01] <Aron_Figaro> It was freaking hilarious, he's like "Wtf this thing is going all to shit..." "where'd you mount that hda5?" "oops"
[05:01] <bushito> .........
[05:01] <marky> will it auto install?
[05:01] <whyameye> jack-: I hope so. :-) Haven't actually been here before....
[05:02] <marky> how hard is it?
[05:02] <marky> <~~noob
[05:02] <opnsrc> Does anyone know of another menu editor for Gnome?
[05:02] <opnsrc> other than Smeg?
[05:02] <jack_> whyameye: err...i entered that command, but there was no message
[05:02] <mustard5> marky, it is installed using the dpkg command
[05:02] <marky> ok
[05:02] <jack_> whyameye: and when i check the -l list all three remain
[05:02] <whyameye> jack-: try again...
[05:02] <mustard5> marky, sudo dpkg -i fullpackagename.deb
[05:03] <marky> thanks i'll try
[05:03] <jack_> whyameye: ok, the repeated command gives me "module ndiswrapper does not exist"
[05:03] <jack_> so i guess it worked?
[05:03] <whyameye> jack-: I'm an idiot. You want to type <ndiswrapper -e [name of erroneous file] >
[05:03] <jack_> Eeek
[05:03] <jack_> okays
[05:04] <opnsrc> !smeg
[05:04] <ubotu> Alacarte Menu Editor is an easy-to-use menu editor for GNOME. Older versions were called smeg. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/alacarte/
[05:04] <xfree> why some application look like odd with some themes?
[05:04] <jack_> whyameye: ok, i am left with only the third (correct?) file, but it still is listed as an invalid driver
[05:05] <opnsrc> There we go, thanks
[05:05] <bushito> where can i get a plugin to see video files over internet?
[05:06] <whyameye> jack-: this is weird. Didn't you say it was a BCM4306
[05:06] <clint-> hm
[05:07] <jack_> yeah
[05:07] <mustard5> bushito you got w32codecs already?
[05:07] <Hericus> clint-, is it me or is that guy somewhat .. lost.
[05:07] <whyameye> jack-: I would try removing the 3rd file, then reinstalling it with ndiswrapper -i <filename>...Only a guess...
[05:07] <bushito> mustard5, eehhh apt-get doesnt find em
[05:07] <jack_> whyameye: actually i just did that...
[05:08] <marky> mustard5  i'll come back tommorow and try and install it all, its 4:22am here in england
[05:08] <marky> thanks for you help
[05:08] <mustard5> k bushito ask for alink when you come in
[05:08] <marky> and you ubunto
[05:08] <clint-> yep
[05:08] <mustard5> marky, np
[05:09] <bushito> mustard5, ??' what??
[05:09] <synackuator> does anyone know of a wma to mp3 convertor?
[05:09] <mustard5> bushito, when you come back tomorrow ask for a link to w32codecs
[05:09] <bushito> Key
[05:09] <whyameye> jack-: I'm at a loss. Is this a physical card you can unplug and replug in?
[05:09] <marky> I'm still over the moon with ubuntu   , its friendly looking  , an easy gap from windows i think  ,
[05:09] <jack_> yeah it is
[05:09] <marky> great ralxing gui
[05:09] <marky> relaxing*
[05:10] <clint-> yep
[05:10] <brunno> lol
[05:10] <clint-> you should see Xandros, and PC BSD :)
[05:10] <whyameye> jack-: I guess you could try unplugging it, replugging it in, then seeing what ndiswrapper -l gives you...
[05:10] <tonyyarusso> What do I have to do to make cp not omit directories?
[05:10] <jack_> hmmmm
[05:10] <jack_> okay
[05:10] <marky> three cheers the the "ubutu chaps"
[05:10] <marky> i've done xandros
[05:10] <Sammy76> any able to help me get it to install?
[05:10] <clint-> I added the debian source list, etc.. to my /etc/apt/sources etc.. and it gave me that much more power :)
[05:10] <marky> this kicks its ass
[05:10] <thoreauputic> synackuator: mencoder can probably do that
[05:11] <clint-> I even made it into a fluxbox
[05:11] <clint-> You into that yet?
[05:11] <thoreauputic> clint-: adding debian sources is fraught with danger - be careful
[05:11] <marky> if your here the creators of ubunu , thanks for the effort.it was worth it :) :)
[05:11] <Hericus> I don't really like the fluxbox.
[05:11] <Hericus> It's fast though.
[05:12] <marky> nope don't knoe fluxbox
[05:12] <jack_> egads though, is there a box i can uncheck that turns off the ugly on gnome?
[05:12] <clint-> I know what I"m doing :)
[05:12] <jack_> bark brown is not exactly my favorite color...
[05:12] <jack_> :P
[05:12] <marky> right click on the desktop?
[05:12] <thoreauputic> jack-: so change your themes
[05:12] <marky> same as normal
[05:12] <tonyyarusso> The man page even says "copies files and directories", but if I do something like "cp * /target", to include all of the directories in the current directory in the copy, I get a message that cp is omitting each of them.
[05:13] <clint-> jack
[05:13] <jack_> yeah yeah... i gots it
[05:13] <clint-> do you want to install the kde desktop as well?
[05:13] <jack_> er...
[05:13] <jack_> i will once i get the intertrons working
[05:13] <jack_> KDE is too tempting
[05:13] <whyameye> jack-: I take it that didn't work. I thought perhaps the card had gotten "confused" when you tried the wrong drivers. Unplugging and replugging might reset it...
[05:13] <marky> kde crashes more than gnome
[05:13] <thoreauputic> tonyyarusso: you need recursive - cp -r
[05:13] <tonyyarusso> jack_: Themes, Desktop Background, Configure Login.
[05:13] <clint-> ->    when you do, just do... :~# sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:13] <jack_> KDE makes me want to play with all the millions of settings rather than actually make a working comuter
[05:13] <tonyyarusso> thoreauputic: Ah.  Thanks.
[05:14] <marky> lol jack
[05:14] <clint-> you choose what to do :)
[05:14] <thoreauputic> tonyyarusso:  man cp ;-)
[05:14] <marky> got to roll another bifta brb   , 30 secs
[05:14] <jack_> bifta?
[05:14] <jack_> hah
[05:14] <clint-> gnome is just easier on resources, :)
[05:14] <marky> hand rolled smoke
[05:14] <tonyyarusso> thoreauputic: I did that, but didn't really understand what the recursive part meant.
[05:15] <marky> rizla baccy etc
[05:15] <jack_> haha rizlas..
[05:15] <jack_> i miss england
[05:15] <thoreauputic> tonyyarusso: yes, reading man pages is not always easy , I agree :)
[05:15] <marky> you not missin mnuch
[05:15] <marky> emgland is cold at the mo
[05:15] <dragoon> aus is semi warm
[05:15] <thoreauputic> tonyyarusso:  cp -a is also useful - it keeps permissions and mirrors everything including dot files
[05:16] <marky> about 1degree c herew
[05:16] <marky> man... i should be in bed
[05:16] <tonyyarusso> thoreauputic: Speaking of dot files, how can I include those in find and locate?
[05:17] <thoreauputic> tonyyarusso: that I don't know, sorry
[05:17] <misfit_toy> 27F here in TX
[05:17] <tonyyarusso> thoreauputic: Oh well.  Thanks though for the other bit.
[05:17] <marky> ubuntu even does mind if you plug a usb keyboard in... even a packard bell....(boooo hissss) lol
[05:18] <marky> god bless the dudes who sweated over this code
[05:18] <stran> Greetings
[05:19] <stran> is there a good gui sftp client similar to filezilla for linux????
[05:19] <stran> anyone?
[05:19] <thoreauputic> stran:  gftp does sftp
[05:19] <marky> statue*
[05:19] <thoreauputic> so does nautilus actually
[05:19] <whyameye> jack-: good luck, I guess.
[05:19] <jack_> okays
[05:19] <whyameye> stran: try gFTP
[05:19] <jack_> thanks
[05:19] <Badm4n> !question : i have already set my iptables rule using network.sh ( created by my self ) but everytime server restart... iptables always back to default even i type iptables-save before restart :( any1 have solution ?
[05:19] <ubotu> Badm4n: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[05:19] <seth_k> thoreauputic, we're in #kubuntu :P I would just suggest using the sftp:/ kioslave, it works wonders
[05:20] <marky> see you all tommorow
[05:20] <thoreauputic> stran: "connect to server" with ssh:// works
[05:20] <marky> nice meeting you aal
[05:20] <Madpilot> stran: there's gFTP, but frankly it's cr*p - the Filezilla folks need to hurry up with that Linux port they talked about a year or so ago...
[05:20] <marky> winks from england
[05:20] <marky> good night all
[05:20] <jack_> bye
[05:20] <thoreauputic> seth_k: erm, this is #ubuntu
[05:20] <bushito> how can i modify my GDM look?
[05:20] <seth_k> thoreauputic, I'm silly, we're not in #kubuntu, I'm in the wrong tab
[05:20] <jack_> Yeah, i loves me some filezilla
[05:20] <seth_k> :)
[05:20] <thoreauputic> seth_k: hahah
[05:20] <thoreauputic> :)
[05:20] <stran> yeah, filezilla is awesome... i'm frankly amazed that the one thing i miss from windows is an ftp/sftp client!
[05:21] <Madpilot> stran: me too, actually - but Nautilus does basic FTP/sFTP very well
[05:21] <thoreauputic> stran: there actually is a linux filezilla - but not in the repos
[05:21] <theCore> stran, gftp is a very good ftp client
[05:21] <misfit_toy> ncftp is better
[05:22] <Madpilot> thoreauputic: you sure? I was at the Filezilla project page a month or so ago, couldn't find any mention of a Linux port...
[05:22] <navarone> hostname 10.0.0.13
[05:23] <stran> hmmm
[05:23] <thoreauputic> Madpilot:  http://filezilla-project.org/nightly.php
[05:23] <stran> one vote for gftp.... one against?
[05:23] <misfit_toy> gftp for gui, ncftp for cli
[05:23] <thoreauputic> lftp !
[05:23] <thoreauputic> hah
[05:23] <levander> nautilus for gui
[05:24] <stran> yeah, I'd like a gui client that does a good job with checking file diferences, etc,
[05:24] <jhealey> hello
[05:24] <Madpilot> thoreauputic: cool, bookmarked!
[05:24] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: :)
[05:24] <MasterTsunami> is gftp like flashfxp :|
[05:24] <levander> stran: i'm sitting here messing with meld because i was told it was good, but can't figure out how to view revisions in an svk repository with it
[05:25] <jhealey> hello all
[05:25] <stran> meld?
[05:25] <jhealey> everyone OK today
[05:25] <misfit_toy> spock?
[05:25] <jhealey> we are in the middle of an ice storm here
[05:25] <stran> ....svk? you mean svn?
[05:25] <levander> stran: it's a gnome graphical diff tool
[05:26] <levander> stran: no, am using svk for this (svk is like a way to locally have a repository, but be able to merge it later with an svn repostitory)
[05:26] <jack_> jhealey: where's here?
[05:26] <jhealey> Texas
[05:26] <Hoxzer> somebody here has installed nxclient to ubuntu?
[05:27] <misfit_toy> jhealey, I'm in austin, we're getting it too
[05:27] <jhealey> i'm near dallas
[05:27] <Hoxzer> .deb is out but I don't know the start command or it isn't working propelly
[05:27] <jhealey> yeah, it's bad
[05:27] <stran> oh yeah? that sounds cool
[05:27] <jack_> poor texas
[05:27] <MasterTsunami> im in austin too! :O
[05:27] <jack_> Austin Tea party!
[05:27] <MasterTsunami> my car is covered by a half inch of ice :|
[05:27] <jhealey> took me almost 2 hours to get home, usually take 40 minutes
[05:27] <misfit_toy> hola MasterTsunami
[05:27] <misfit_toy> :)
[05:27] <MasterTsunami> i rolled down the window and there was an ice window :|
[05:27] <MasterTsunami> :)
[05:27] <jack_> hahaha
[05:27] <jack_> that's awful
[05:27] <MasterTsunami> its crazy
[05:28] <jhealey> i'm working tomorrow, we'll see how that commute goes
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> its 50 Deg F - here .. IN this room. :P
[05:28] <stran> i need to check both those tools... I usually just create a rep in svn or add to an existing trunk... works out well, especially if I wanna keep track of it with a single trac server
[05:28] <MasterTsunami> ;0
[05:28] <jhealey> i'll say this though, there are a lot of bad drivers in these parts
[05:28] <jhealey> don't know to slow down for the ice
[05:28] <fishnogeek>  i'm in houston....not snowing here yet
[05:28] <jhealey> 50?  Doctor? where are you, in a meat locker?
[05:28] <misfit_toy> jhealey, texans drive like drunken frogs on ice
[05:28] <fishnogeek> it's still in the 40s here....seriously, 27F near dallas?
[05:29] <jhealey> frunken dogs on rice, right
[05:29] <misfit_toy> jhealey, look out for the idiots in the morning, it will be bad
[05:29] <jhealey> it was 24f on my ride home around 6pm
[05:29] <MasterTsunami> junk that, i'm not going to work :/
[05:29] <jhealey> misfit, are you from somewhere else?
[05:29] <jhealey> i'm from boston
[05:29] <misfit_toy> 27F here, jhealey born texan
[05:29] <jhealey> orignally
[05:29] <robotgeek> brrr
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> jhealey,  in the basement - the doggie door is (was) open. :P and its like 12F outside...
[05:29] <jack_> Dr Willis, try over clocking, maybe you can generate some more heat for your room?
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> got the space heaters on now. :P
[05:30] <fishnogeek> ouch....call in sick tomorrow, it's not worth risking the roads with all the texans
[05:30] <jack_> oh, well smack the dog around then
[05:30] <jhealey> yikes doctor willis
[05:30] <jhealey> where are you at?
[05:30] <robotgeek> 25 F
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> Indiana.
[05:30] <jack_> hahaha
[05:30] <misfit_toy> no one realizes how wimpy us texans are with the cold
[05:30] <misfit_toy> lol
[05:30] <Badm4n> !question : i have already set my iptables rule using network.sh ( created by my self ) but everytime server restart... iptables always back to default even i type iptables-save before restart :( any1 have solution ?
[05:30] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, Badm4n
[05:30] <MasterTsunami> i have a massive fire going right now
[05:30] <jhealey> true, but that wind will get to ya misfit
[05:30] <robotgeek> misfit_toy: hmm, it's bad outside dude
[05:30] <hanasaki> anyone have any luck w/ ati mobile and xorg in laptops?
[05:30] <jhealey> makes 27 feel like a lot less
[05:30] <misfit_toy> when it hits texans they freak, and can't drive, and can't do anything...it's actually pretty funny
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> My 2 dogs are pomerianians - they can get out the basement sliding window they are so small - i got a ramp for them
[05:31] <MasterTsunami> dude, it was 14 today with the windchill
[05:31] <MasterTsunami> :|
[05:31] <fishnogeek> ok, i have a question about the ati stuff....i just installed breezy on a laptop that runs the ATI X300 Mobility card
[05:31] <TerrapinOrange> Hey folks.  I apt-get dist-upgraded and hosed my system.  I'm pretty sure I know how to fix the problem (I found a very similar issue on the debian mailing list), but I can't run a single command on my system other than ldconfig.  I need to get ld to ignore some libs, and --ignore-rpath doesn't seem to be doing the trick.  Can anyone help?
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> fishhead,  My laptop wiath a X200Mobility  Works good. even has 3d
[05:31] <misfit_toy> robotgeek, my whole front yard is frozen, even going out for a cigar requires tricky walking and a huge dallas cowboys fleece lined jacket, lol
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> fishhead,  what cpu?
[05:32] <fishnogeek> no luck on X Windows....i thought it was the resolution, but then got surfing and started thinking it was the ati fglrx stuff
[05:32] <Madpilot> MasterTsunami: that's 14 F? ouch
[05:32] <Chris-C> howdy ... please help me with adding an archive to my /etc/apt/sources.list ...
[05:32] <MasterTsunami> yeah :|
[05:32] <robotgeek> misfit_toy: lucky i live in an apt :)
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> Temperature: 3 F  - Hmm the forcast sais the : LOW will be 8 F.
[05:32] <misfit_toy> robotgeek, hopefully on the ground floor
[05:32] <TerrapinOrange> ld-linux.so.2 --inhibit-rpath, that is.
[05:32] <Chris-C> I added a line saying:   deb http://pkg-boinc.alioth.debian.org ./
[05:33] <Chris-C> note trailing ./
[05:33] <robotgeek> misfit_toy: i am not doing any walking anyways :)
[05:33] <fishnogeek> pentium M 1.86GHz
[05:33] <Chris-C> and synaptic bitched on startup with "Couldn't stat source package list"
[05:33] <jack_> hahah
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> oops fishnogeek  - I got a a Compaq V2311 - with Turion. for the start I had to set X to use the VESA drivers till i got the ati drivers set up and flgrx installed.
[05:33] <jack_> "bitched" is exactly the correct term for computers complaining
[05:33] <misfit_toy> "synaptic bitched" I like that
[05:33] <Chris-C> I know nothing about sources.list syntax
[05:34] <Badm4n> !question : i have already set my iptables rule using network.sh ( created by my self ) but everytime server restart... iptables always back to default even i type iptables-save before restart :( any1 have solution ? ?
[05:34] <ubotu> Badm4n: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[05:34] <rhoffa> is the any bittorent software i can apt-get and easily use because.. i have a huge file stopped at 96% nedded to restart and now it wont resume with ubuntus torrent software
[05:34] <Madpilot> Badm4n: starting your lines with ! confuses the bot
[05:36] <rhoffa> something like bit tornado, i dont really like azurus
[05:36] <fishnogeek> dr_willis:  how painful was the ati installation for you?
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> fishnogeek,  about 2 min. :P
[05:36] <Madpilot> rhoffa: isn't bittornado in the repos?
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> fishnogeek,  and i was amazed when it worked..
[05:36] <rhoffa> i dont know?
[05:36] <rhoffa> im not good with linux yet
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> fishnogeek,  type !ATI and read the bot url
[05:37] <Badm4n> Madpilot: sorry
[05:37] <rhoffa> i used to use it in windows, how do i access tornado?
[05:37] <navarone> rhoffa, are you still using phex at all? How was it?
[05:37] <Badm4n> question : i have already set my iptables rule using network.sh ( created by my self ) but everytime server restart... iptables always back to default even i type iptables-save before restart :( any1 have solution ? ?
[05:37] <Madpilot> !info bittornado
[05:37] <ubotu> bittornado: (bittorrent client with enhanced curses interface), section net, is optional. Version: 0.3.11-4ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 148 kB, Installed size: 840 kB
[05:37] <rhoffa> haha it was good
[05:37] <mcjerry> I installed from cd iso a few days ago and then updated source.list and then dist-upgrade.....is still breezy, now 2.6.12-10-386
[05:37] <mcjerry>  how can I get my MCE remote to work with this?
[05:37] <fishnogeek> no way, seriously....2 minutes?
[05:37] <rhoffa> i used it a lil bit for mitch matched things
[05:37] <Madpilot> Badm4n: np
[05:37] <Badm4n> any1 can help me ?
[05:37] <navarone> rhoffa, glad it is working for ya
[05:37] <fishnogeek> very impressed
[05:37] <fishnogeek> !ATI
[05:37] <ubotu> ati is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[05:37] <rhoffa> im trying to get some torrent software that will allow me to resume this download i was working on, i need to resume it theres no way im restarting it
[05:37] <mcjerry> does the default iso cd install have lirc support preconfigured in kernel?
[05:38] <rhoffa> but the built in torrent software wont work
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> rhoffa,  Hmm... actually it should resume.. but it maybe the peers/clients are busy/slow to respond.
[05:38] <navarone> I dl'ed Opera as a torrent...<s> First torrent file for me...I was well pleased with myself.
[05:38] <Madpilot> rhoffa: i've resumed torrents with the Gnome Torrent client before
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> rhoffa,  there are several bittorrent clients out for linux ya could try. check synaptic.
[05:39] <Madpilot> navarone: a 4Mb file as a torrent? why? :)
[05:39] <rhoffa> im installing it now
[05:39] <navarone> Madpilot...curiousity
[05:39] <rhoffa> i have too but for some reaosn this one doesnt wanna cooperate
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> Madpilot,  same reason people rar zip files on the torrent downloads. :P
[05:40] <navarone> I'm getting more comfortable with this irc client...keeps surprising me
[05:40] <rhoffa> god old bittornado worked though
[05:40] <rhoffa> thanks
[05:41] <intelikey> navarone yeah i like bx
[05:41] <rhoffa> does anyone know the bittorent ports offhand
[05:41] <rhoffa> 6886?
[05:41] <rhoffa> i cant remember the range
[05:41] <misfit_toy> rhoffa, 6881-6889
[05:41] <navarone> misfit_toy , is this weather unusauly?
[05:41] <rhoffa> thanks
[05:42] <misfit_toy> navarone, very, we rarely get in the 20's F here
[05:42] <navarone> unusual even
[05:43] <intelikey> misfit_toy austin tx ?
[05:43] <luisito> hello people
[05:43] <misfit_toy> navarone, probably schools and many offices will be closed tommorrow because our freeways will be iced over
[05:43] <misfit_toy> intelikey, yeah
[05:43] <fishnogeek> dr_willis, thanks for the links -- i'd seen the second one but not the one in the wiki
[05:43] <robotgeek> rhoffa: i run on 6991
[05:43] <navarone> misfit_toy , I am in Canada...but no bad weather up here yet this winter
[05:44] <luisito> anyone knows how to customize Usplash?
[05:44] <intelikey> !usplash
[05:44] <ubotu> usplash is probably for your information, about Usplash : if you use a home-built kernel, required options are initramfs & framebuffer, that's all ... don't take any prerequisites used for bootsplash or patches in consideration
[05:44] <Madpilot> navarone: we exported it all to Texas this winter - one of those NAFTA deals :D
[05:44] <misfit_toy> navarone, my wife has a good friend way up there in Canada somewhere, she says it's cold all the time...now I have to question that! lol
[05:45] <misfit_toy> Madpilot, gee thanks!
[05:45] <Razor-X> misfit_toy: Why can't I own a Canadian?
[05:45] <intelikey> hmmm so now we know where to send the 110+ F  next summer
[05:45] <Razor-X> :)
[05:45] <misfit_toy> Razor-X, you can only buy DRUGS from Canada, not Canadians
[05:46] <luisito> forget it, I found the page. Finally
[05:46] <Razor-X> nevermind :P
[05:46] <misfit_toy> so no one knows of a nice app to record streaming video from a webcam? I can't believe there is nothing for linux in that regard.
[05:46] <Madpilot> misfit_toy: yeah, the part of Canada I'm from is supposed to grow the best pot ever - but most people don't mention it in public ;)
[05:46] <tarvid> looking for firefox 1.5
[05:46] <jack_> hahaha
[05:47] <misfit_toy> Madpilot, oops!
[05:47] <misfit_toy> :)
[05:47] <bimberi> ubotu tell tarvid about firefox15
[05:47] <cnet2> hi, I've installed krfb, but when I try to acess it from a windows pc, using vncviewer it won't work, do I need a special vncviewer?
[05:48] <Kruzayn> is there a good nondestructive partitioning tool i can resize my ntfs file system
[05:48] <tarvid> thanks, i searched for firefox 1.5 and came up dry
[05:49] <quacker> Madpilot, why should they -- it's a well known fact that you BC interior boys are all a buncha wheelchair weed growers
[05:49] <quacker> ;-)
[05:49] <intelikey> Kruzayn the one that came with win xp maybe ?
[05:49] <Kruzayn> ahhh really there is one with xp lol, ill take a look thanks
[05:49] <intelikey> np
[05:50] <Madpilot> quacker: I'm a BC coastal boy, actually. A friend does have a plant (just one) in his garden, if that helps. :D
[05:54] <quacker> Heh, 'Greater Vancouver', 'Kelowna', whta's the dif -- yer alla buncha tree-huggin, granola-crunchin, sandal-wearin, NDP-votin, dope-smokin, pinko commie hippie longhair freaks out thar anyhow
[05:55] <quacker> ;-)
[05:55] <Madpilot> quacker: thank you <bows>
[05:55] <quacker> YW
[05:55] <Madpilot> I don't wear sandals, though
[05:56] <quacker> Scuse me, I gotta go put some sunburn lotion on my neck now...
[05:57] <pr1r> hey all
[05:59] <evian> hi, does anyone know if Roboform works with wine or crossover office?
[05:59] <evian> or what a good replacement is?
[06:00] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, you here?
[06:02] <pr1r> can anyone help me with my 2nd monitor... havin a hard time installin drivers
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> pr1r,  what video card?
[06:03] <pr1r> geforce fx 5200
[06:03] <pr1r> agp
[06:03] <pr1r> ive read the wiki
[06:03] <pr1r> for some reason it doesnt work
[06:06] <Arclite> Myself and three friends have gotten the live CD to run fine. We all love it.
[06:06] <fishnogeek> dr_willis, so this should reveal my newbie status:  how would I switch to the VESA drivers until i get this ATI thing sorted?
[06:06] <Arclite> However, a fourth friend claims the live CD broke her Windows install, and she can't get back. Does this ever happen?
[06:06] <fishnogeek> the ATI stuff looks much less painful now than it did a month ago
[06:07] <chquite> hi
[06:08] <Hoxzer> maan, shower
[06:08] <ViViD> i just installed ubuntu, however the installer didnt ask me for the root password
[06:08] <Hoxzer> school is starting in 1,1 Hours
[06:08] <nomasteryoda> ViViD, there is none
[06:08] <jbroome> !tell ViViD about root
[06:08] <Arclite> ViVid, there isn't one.
[06:08] <nomasteryoda> ViViD, your first user has sudo
[06:08] <Hoxzer> !tell Hoxzer about nxclient
[06:08] <nomasteryoda> ubotu, tell ViViD about sudo
[06:08] <ViViD> when i enter none, it says failed, no password entered
[06:09] <fr33mind> Hi.  How to install java in my browser?  (galeon or firefox)
[06:09] <nomasteryoda> ah, well then it did not finish installing?
[06:09] <fishnogeek> !VESA
[06:09] <cdubya> ViViD, what are you trying to do?
[06:09] <ViViD> so what, do i use my user account password?
[06:09] <ViViD> i guess it says root is disabled
[06:09] <nomasteryoda> ViViD yup
[06:09] <cdubya> ViViD, yep
[06:09] <nomasteryoda> on both accounts
[06:09] <CrazyHobo> i'm tired of all of M$ Windoze and its spyware and stuff, and a friend said I should use linux
[06:10] <nomasteryoda> you make other users for regular stuff
[06:10] <CrazyHobo> i dun really no how to get started tho
[06:10] <CrazyHobo> is there like an installer to download?
[06:10] <ViViD> i must say this looks nice, its like debian unstable, stable, with bootsplash
[06:10] <Arclite> Have there been any cases of a Live CD killing a windows installation.
[06:10] <fishnogeek> Dr_Willis...never mind, just got it figured out....thanks...
[06:10] <cdubya> CrazyHobo, heh, just ask
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> fishnogeek, Lol... now you are not a total newbie!
[06:10] <Arclite> CrazyHobo: Get the Live CD from the Ubuntu website.
[06:10] <cdubya> CrazyHobo, yep, you can d'load the iso file and burn it.....
[06:10] <Madpilot> CrazyHobo: you can download the CD images, or get free Ubuntu CDs shipped to you
[06:10] <AtTack-masTeR> I love UBUNTU
[06:10] <nomasteryoda> AtTack-masTeR, it is good stuff
[06:11] <fr33mind> you h ou?
[06:11] <CrazyHobo> so after i make the cd, what do I do?
[06:11] <nomasteryoda> and spyware just crys
[06:11] <fishnogeek> Dr_W:  close 'nuff for gov't work, as they say
[06:11] <nomasteryoda> reboot... if you need windows data save it first
[06:11] <ViViD> yea, im glad i tried it, i was just about ready to use fedora..
[06:11] <Arclite> Crazy: Boot from the disk.
[06:11] <CrazyHobo> i don't know how to do that
[06:11] <nomasteryoda> Crazy, yea... newer systems say press F12
[06:11] <ViViD> debian stable is just too far behind, and the goobers around my house need gui
[06:11] <Madpilot> CrazyHobo: you stick it in your drive, and install - just like installing Windows
[06:11] <pr1r> anyone know how to install 2nd monitor - agp nvidia geforce fx 5200
[06:11] <nomasteryoda> then choose boot from CD
[06:11] <CrazyHobo> my computer just came with windows, never installed it as such
[06:11] <fr33mind> Hi.  How to install java in my browser?  (galeon or firefox)
[06:12] <nomasteryoda> CrazyHobo, the installer is soo much better than the windows crap...
[06:12] <neighborlee> Is anyone else seeing gnome panel menus sometimes dislay a arrow at top/bottom of menu, which when clicking on scrolls to rest of the menu items as if it gets confused that it can't display all at once?? ( also effects sub menus )
[06:12] <nomasteryoda> ubotu, tell CrazyHobo about install
[06:13] <fishnogeek> !kernel install
[06:13] <ubotu> fishnogeek: I don't know, could you explain it?
[06:13] <fishnogeek> !kernel
[06:13] <CrazyHobo> yea i'm totally tired of microshaft
[06:13] <cdubya> heh
[06:13] <cdubya> how long did that take/
[06:14] <ViViD> im got tired of being a "pirate" cuz theres no way in hell im gonna pay MS 300 bux for a cd
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> ViViD,  :P
[06:14] <Madpilot> CrazyHobo: you might want to download the LiveCD version first - it just runs off your CDRom drive and doesn't touch your harddrive, but it's a full version of Ubuntu
[06:14] <cdubya> heh
[06:15] <CrazyHobo> so this linux stuff is free, i'm downloading it right now
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> They have to make up for the $$$ that they got fined by Korea
[06:15] <CrazyHobo> i dont understand how that works
[06:15] <physis> funnily enough, i switched just after getting my first legit copy of windows in years
[06:15] <ViViD> so the system init and configs are build off debian..like my deb configs will work here?
[06:15] <cdubya> Dr_Willis, :)
[06:15] <ViViD> built*
[06:15] <cdubya> I saw that today.....
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> CrazyHobo,  time to get reading.:P its an interesting idea/topic/story/process/
[06:15] <evian> what's a good password manager for Ubuntu?
[06:16] <fishnogeek> ok, so here's another one:  while installing breezy on a ThinkPad T21 that already has XP, SUSE and Mandrake on it, i got a "choose a kernel" message, then a "kernel could not be installed" thing.....tried about eleven different things, no joy....anybody got an idea on that one?
[06:16] <CrazyHobo> but who's paying for the stuff?
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> cdubya,  so they have to make a edition with 'links' to SOMTHING  thats competing with their stuff...  :P like Ubuntu.com?
[06:16] <cdubya> heh
[06:16] <cdubya> yeah
[06:16] <x_or> Does anyone here use SHFS (secure shell file system) for Ubuntu?  I need a way to mount a directory on another linux box, and using samba seems just so unnatural.  Is there another simple option I can just turn on one box and mount on the other?
[06:16] <Madpilot> CrazyHobo: the Ubuntu project is sponsered by a very wealthy guy called Mark Shuttleworth
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> cdubya,  or perhaps to... crappywordprocessor.com
[06:16] <cdubya> heh
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> x_or,  why not 'nfs' ?
[06:17] <CrazyHobo> so he just pays the company that makes ubuntu linux?
[06:17] <jack_> what's the command to revert to regular user in the commandline?
[06:18] <jack_> (after using sudo to become root)
[06:18] <cdubya> jack_, exit
[06:18] <jack_> thanks!
[06:18] <evian> CrazyHobo, partly, but most of the man hours in ubuntu were done for free by folks who like to program
[06:18] <jack_> makes sense
[06:18] <cdubya> heh
[06:18] <Madpilot> CrazyHobo: he owns the company - but there's lots of companies & people involved in Linux
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> He liked it so much.. he created a company!
[06:19] <CrazyHobo> why would people just work on it for free?
[06:19] <CrazyHobo> couldn't they work for like M$ or Apple and get paid?
[06:19] <bob832> any reason firestarter, after running all day, starting using +80% of CPU in the past couple of minutes?
[06:19] <cdubya> CrazyHobo, that's kinda the whole point of OSS.....
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> they use it.. they improve it.. they share their improvements.
[06:19] <CrazyHobo> OSS?
[06:20] <jack_> they are interested in a working program
[06:20] <pr1r> lol
[06:20] <lordlucless> CrazyHobo: Working for someone means you gotta do what they tell you :P
[06:20] <jack_> first
[06:20] <Razor-X> CrazyHobo: yeah, and make a proprietary mess of it
[06:20] <Madpilot> CrazyHobo: Open Source Software
[06:20] <jack_> unlike companies that make money who are interested in money first
[06:20] <lordlucless> Doing your own stuff means you do what you want to do :)
[06:20] <BenUrban> ubotu: tell BenUrban about ati
[06:20] <jack_> and quality only if it means more money
[06:20] <quacker> Heh, he was in here the other day -- Mark Shuttleworth that is.  nickname is something lik asfvdf
[06:20] <fishnogeek> well...why do people collect stamps?  or pay good money to go skiing or snowboarding?  it's something they like to do
[06:20] <pr1r> does anyone have a geforce fx video card that is workin on there computer?
[06:20] <Madpilot> quacker: sabdfl
[06:20] <evian> CrazyHobo, they could do that, but then they have to work on what their boss tells them to
[06:20] <CrazyHobo> Madpilot: what does that mean?
[06:20] <fishnogeek> and this 'hobby' (read obsession) happens to be productive....and it's going to save the planet
[06:21] <jack_> opensource?
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> save the planet? :)
[06:21] <desplesda> CrazyHobo:  "self appointed benevolent dictator for life" :)
[06:21] <Madpilot> sabdfl = Supreme Absolute Dictator For Life -- Mark's "title" in the Ubuntu project :D
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> Open sores.
[06:21] <jack_> you have a car, right Hobo?
[06:21] <x_or> Dr_Willis:  Is NFS simple to setup on an Ubuntu machine?
[06:21] <CrazyHobo> well my parents have cars
[06:21] <wickedpuppy> -+
[06:21] <jack_> plays
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> x_or,  yep. should be.
[06:21] <wickedpuppy> +
[06:21] <intelikey> oss as in sound ?
[06:21] <jack_> er okays
[06:21] <jack_> Is it illegal for you to look under the hood?
[06:21] <jack_> or illegal for you to figure out how it works/
[06:21] <jack_> ?
[06:21] <CrazyHobo> if it is, nobody told me
[06:21] <jack_> would ford sue you if you told your friend how your car drives?
[06:22] <jack_> yeah
[06:22] <quacker> And if you read thes tuff ont he site, it explains how he expects Ubuntu to become cashflow positive shortly -- though he pledges to fold it before any charging money -- except for premium support.
[06:22] <jack_> well when you use windows, it is not open source, meaning you cannot see the code
[06:22] <cdubya> intelikey, no. Open Source Software
[06:22] <jack_> and they will pretty much try to thwart anyone who tries to get at it
[06:23] <jack_> So Open Source just means that anyone can look at the code
[06:23] <CrazyHobo> but wouldn't the code be more like the blueprint to the car?
[06:23] <cdubya> heh
[06:23] <jack_> yeah exactly
[06:23] <jack_> just because i know how the car works
[06:23] <jack_> doesn't mean i can manifactur one
[06:23] <desplesda> CrazyHobo:  more than just the blueprint to the car, it's like giving you the blueprints, the factory and the raw materials to make your own
[06:24] <jack_> well and to modify
[06:24] <desplesda> the idea being that if you make a better car, you can then give those better cars to other people
[06:24] <jack_> you could go make CrazyHobo linux if you wanted
[06:24] <desplesda> and the car industry as a whole improves
[06:24] <cdubya> heh
[06:24] <CrazyHobo> but couldn't someone just take the code and make it a whole lot better and then patent it or somethin?
[06:24] <jack_> by changing the linux source and compiling it yourself
[06:24] <cdubya> that sounds like a kinda cool flavor of linux
[06:24] <cdubya> heh
[06:24] <jack_> haha yeah
[06:25] <Madpilot> CrazyHobo: the license used - called the GPL - prevents that sort of thing
[06:25] <intelikey> "<jack_> So Open Source just means that anyone can look at the code"  <---- no open source is much more than just the freedom to know how it works.  it is the freedom to change it, rewrite it, distribute it, and even yes 'sell it'   :)
[06:25] <jack_> well just because it is open does not mean you can steal it
[06:25] <bshumate> CrazyHobo depends on the license
[06:25] <cdubya> but Ubuntu just kicks, so unless you come up something really great, CrazyHobo, I'll stick close to home here....
[06:25] <cdubya> ;P
[06:25] <oddflux--> hi22222222u
[06:25] <jack_> intelikey: yeah sorry, i am just trying to say it quickly
[06:25] <intelikey> k
[06:25] <Razor-X> OSS is great indeed, and I think we should embrace it
[06:25] <jack_> there was a thing recently with these guys called "SCO"
[06:25] <intelikey> http://www.gnu.org
[06:25] <Razor-X> programming for want of money defeats the spirit
[06:25] <jack_> who sued a number of linuxes
[06:26] <intelikey> or is it .com
[06:26] <jack_> claiming they stole code
[06:26] <cdubya> sco. heh
[06:26] <Razor-X> although, without closed source software, we won't get to see the awesome lightsaber fight with Gates vs. Stallman
[06:26] <jack_> but SCO couldn't show the judge a single line of code that was "stolen"
[06:26] <bshumate> www.gnu.org is correct
[06:26] <jack_> so they threw it out
[06:26] <CrazyHobo> i'm seeing this Richard Stallman guy on the gnu page, whose he?
[06:26] <intelikey> but this is really supposed to be in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:26] <jhealey> jack that trial is set for 2007
[06:26] <bshumate> don't forget mah main man rms, and fsf.orf!
[06:26] <jack_> what?
[06:26] <jack_> ?!
[06:26] <bshumate> err www.fsf.org
[06:26] <jack_> the wiki told me otherwise
[06:27] <oddflux--> I'm unfamiliar with ubuntu and firewalls, how secure is ubuntu by default?
[06:27] <jack_> hmmm, i guess i misread
[06:27] <jhealey> i'd read it again
[06:27] <jhealey> i'm sure it won't go anywere
[06:27] <jhealey> no one expects SCO to be around by then
[06:27] <CrazyHobo> ok, i'll move to the offtopic chan
[06:27] <Madpilot> oddflux--: very
[06:27] <Kyral> oddflux--: no services are running by default
[06:27] <jhealey> very interesting stuff, nonetheless
[06:27] <Kyral> so nothing is listening
[06:27] <pr1r> anyone know how to hook up 2 monitors... geforce fx 5200 agp
[06:27] <jack_> oh...sorry just IBM was cleared
[06:28] <oddflux--> Right.
[06:28] <Madpilot> everyone - #ubuntu-offtopic does exist... :)
[06:28] <cdubya> heh
[06:28] <pr1r> i read the wiki and followed directions and it didnt work
[06:28] <oddflux--> nadpilot, thanks. :)
[06:28] <jack_> *meep*
[06:28] <jhealey> sorry madpilot, jack mentioned an internesting story
[06:28] <jhealey> i'll shut up now
[06:28] <cdubya> my bad, I was kinda fueling the fire there.....
[06:29] <cnet2> krfb is not accepting uninvited sessions, and the option is ON, anyone know why?
[06:29] <jhealey> hey all, i gott arun
[06:29] <jhealey> see y'all later
[06:29] <ernesto> Hello
[06:29] <cdubya> later
[06:29] <jack_> can anyone offer help on wireless lan cards?
[06:29] <cdubya> jack_, what kind of help
[06:29] <jack_> i have the .inf driver file
[06:29] <jack_> well, getting it to work basically
[06:29] <nomasteryoda> an, ndiswrapper
[06:29] <nomasteryoda> ah i meant
[06:29] <jack_> i tried the ndiswrapper stuff from the ubuntuwiki
[06:30] <jack_> and the last step with ndiswrapper -l that is supposed to yeild happy stats
[06:30] <oddflux--> alright thanks.
[06:30] <oddflux--> gn
[06:30] <jack_> just tells me that theyare invalid drivers
[06:30] <cdubya> jack_, so you did the whole Windows wireless drivers kinda thing....?
[06:30] <shreevatsa> Does anyone know how totem-video-thumbnailer works? I'm just curious
[06:31] <jack_> er...yeah
[06:31] <shreevatsa> I mean, how does it decide which frame to grab, and can I specify it myself?
[06:31] <jack_> i got the file and put it in the folder and sicked ndiswrapper on it
[06:31] <cdubya> heh
[06:31] <ernesto> I created a new user and a new group for two users, but the files created remain in the group of the same name as the user. Should I delete that group?
[06:32] <cdubya> jack_. hang on
[06:32] <jack_> okays
[06:32] <intelikey> ernesto man chgroup
[06:32] <ernesto> thanks
[06:33] <nomasteryoda> so LOQUiLLO_ which is it? ubuntu or suse?
[06:33] <intelikey> errr chgrp  on some systems...
[06:33] <LOQUiLLO_> Ubuntu
[06:33] <shreevatsa> chgrp on ubuntu, right?
[06:33] <nomasteryoda> cool
[06:33] <ernesto> ok
[06:34] <LOQUiLLO_> time for sleeeeeeeep
[06:34] <cdubya> jack_, you did use a -i option in step 3, right? I ask because I thought you typed a -l above....
[06:34] <intelikey> shreevatsa i don't know, i don't use it.
[06:34] <lordlucless> Im trying to install php4-gd2, but I cant find it in Synaptic. Is it in multiverse for some reason?
[06:34] <shreevatsa> intelikey, ok, it's chgrp, I checked
[06:34] <jack_> cbudya, actually i DID type -l
[06:34] <jack_> but that is the fourth step
[06:34] <jack_> or fifth
[06:34] <jack_> and yeah i did use -i for the third
[06:35] <cdubya> k
[06:35] <jack_> i followed the steps exactly i am sure
[06:35] <john_> Hey.
[06:35] <john_> I was hoping I could get some advice.
[06:35] <jack_> i also took the card out and plugged it back into an adjecent slot
[06:35] <cdubya> jack_, which one are you following, just out of curiosity.
[06:35] <intelikey> haY john you've come to the right place
[06:35] <john_> My monitor resolution is all screwed up.
[06:35] <jack_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[06:35] <john_> My monitor is 1280x768.
[06:36] <shreevatsa> john_, this just happened, or since install?
[06:36] <john_> But, it won't let me select that resolution, the only option is 1024x768.
[06:36] <intelikey> hmmm wide screen
[06:36] <shreevatsa> john_, I mean, did you install just now, or did you change something?
[06:36] <john_> Just installed.
[06:36] <intelikey> shreevatsa note that it is widescreen
[06:37] <ernie_> OK, dapper drake install here i come
[06:37] <john_> I found some information on the internet and a patch that updates something to allow that resolution, but it's something else, you run gcc something and it is supposed to update, but I can't get it to run.
[06:37] <cdubya> jack_, you look at this one? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper?highlight=%28ndiswrapper%29
[06:37] <shreevatsa> intelikey, does that mean that it's not the "HorizSync line missing in xorg.conf problem" that I had?
[06:37] <ernie_> anyone with much XFCE experience?
[06:38] <intelikey> john_ gcc is the c compiler for building software.  you have to install 'build-essential' before gcc will work.
[06:38] <ernie_> any problems with it andd dapper?
[06:38] <cibao> quick question for everyone...any clue when Ubuntu will have a package available for Firefox 1.5??
[06:38] <shreevatsa> john_, try this (it worked for me, but mine wasn't widescreen)
[06:38] <shreevatsa> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:38] <john_> Everything else seems to run fine though, the whole thing seems pretty cool and so much less annoying than Windows XP, which I have to freaking reinstall every month to keep my laptop from crawling to a slow.
[06:38] <john_> But, I can't really use it with the screen all fuzzy. :)
[06:38] <shreevatsa> john_, try this: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:39] <shreevatsa> john_, (or whatever editor you like)
[06:39] <intelikey> shreevatsa it can probably be fixed in xorg.conf but i don't know how.  i've never played with a widey yet.
[06:39] <shreevatsa> john_, find the section that says Section "Monitor".
[06:39] <john_> shreevatsa, : OK, I just get a blank file.
[06:40] <shreevatsa> john_, Huh? That isn't supposed to happen...
[06:40] <shreevatsa> john_, then I don't know
[06:40] <intelikey> john_ check spelling and caps.   case is important.
[06:40] <jack_> cdubya : it's still not working, i don't see the device in the network settings window
[06:41] <john_> intelikey: Thanks, I'm an idiot.
[06:41] <john_> I know enough about the Mac OS X terminal to get myself into trouble, not much more. lol.
[06:41] <shreevatsa> john_, I had to insert the two lines saying (HorizSync 30-70) and (VertRefresh 50-160)
[06:42] <intelikey> i didm't mean to sound condecending
[06:42] <shreevatsa> john_, and then it worked for me. Of course, your numbers are probably different, consult your monitor
[06:42] <cdubya> jack_, did you compile everything, or use apt to install the ndiswrapper files.....
[06:42] <john_> OK...
[06:42] <john_> Odd...
[06:42] <john_> Section "Screen"
[06:42] <john_> 	Identifier	"Default Screen"
[06:42] <john_> 	Device		"Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device"
[06:42] <john_> 	Monitor		"Generic Monitor"
[06:42] <john_> 	DefaultDepth	24
[06:42] <john_> 	SubSection "Display"
[06:42] <john_> 		Depth		1
[06:42] <john_> 		Modes		"1280x768"
[06:42] <intelikey> !paste
[06:42] <ubotu> [paste]  please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[06:42] <jack_> i used apt to install the package
[06:42] <cibao> anyone have a clue as to when Firefox will be available on Ubuntu?
[06:42] <jack_> oer...synatic or...synaptic
[06:42] <cdubya> jack_, k
[06:42] <john_> The only resolutions in there are 1280x768...
[06:43] <john_> Maybe I just need to restart or something.
[06:43] <jack_> i guess i could try compiling it, i have no experience doing that, but there are directions on wiki.ubuntu...
[06:43] <cdubya> jack_, you don't have anything in the networking window other eth0 and perhaps modem?
[06:43] <thoreauputic> john_: if you paste like that again you will be silenced - please read the /topic
[06:43] <intelikey> john_ [ctrl] +[alt] +[backspace]    to restart X
[06:44] <jack_> i have "modem  connection" that is not configured
[06:44] <shreevatsa> intelikey, you didn't warn him :)
[06:44] <cdubya> jack_, that's all that shows up in networking?
[06:44] <chemisus> what packages do i need to use gtk+ in c++?
[06:44] <Madpilot> shreevatsa: I think that was his warning...
[06:44] <jack_> yup
[06:44] <cdubya> huh
[06:45] <intelikey> about loosing the connection when he did that ?   yeah he'll find his way back  :)
[06:45] <cdubya> jack_, what does your /etc/network/interfaces look like? you wanna paste that up?
[06:45] <jack_> er....
[06:45] <jack_> i can't?
[06:45] <jack_> i mean
[06:45] <cdubya> heh
[06:45] <cdubya> oh yeah
[06:45] <cdubya> sorry
[06:45] <jack_> i'd have to take a screen shot and burn it across if that'd even work
[06:45] <jack_> ubuntu have a default burner?
[06:45] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[06:45] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[06:46] <jdmpike> hello all, my laptop won't hibernate correctly... can anyone help?
[06:46] <john_> OK, thanks for the advice.
[06:46] <john_> I'm obviously not very bright.
[06:46] <john_> Because it works fine now. lol.
[06:47] <intelikey> you're welcome john
[06:47] <john_> Except, I can't tell if it's just my contacts being screwy, but now some text is fuzzy.
[06:47] <john_> But not all text.
[06:47] <shreevatsa> john_, great, congratulations
[06:47] <john_> Mainly title bar text.
[06:47] <shreevatsa> john_, the resolution is right?
[06:47] <john_> It looks like it to me.
[06:47] <cdubya> jack_, would you paste the contents of /etc/network/interfaces to the pastebin?
[06:47] <intelikey> john_ you can adjust the fonts and see if that helps
[06:48] <john_> When I pulled up that file that you told me to pull up, the only resolution entries in there were 1280x768.
[06:48] <jack_> The pastebin?
[06:48] <john_> I think I managed to apply a patch I downloaded and didn't realize it was successful.
[06:48] <cdubya> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[06:48] <intelikey> jack read the topic
[06:48] <thoreauputic> jack-:  /topic
[06:48] <john_> Now I just need to read up and figure out how to get iTunes running and my life will be much happier.
[06:49] <BenUrban> somebody please remind me how to reconfigure xorg
[06:49] <jack_> thoreauputic , that command doesn't do anything...?
[06:49] <intelikey> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:49] <fr500> hello
[06:49] <thoreauputic> BenUrban:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:49] <BenUrban> thanks
[06:49] <fr500> is mame available in ubuntu repos? i can-t find it
[06:49] <thoreauputic> jack-: what client are you using?
[06:49] <jack_> i just got this thing "colloquy" for OSX
[06:50] <jack_> i'm not familiar with it, but so far it's been fine
[06:50] <thoreauputic> jack-: ah, I see
[06:50] <Hobbsee> !info mame
[06:50] <jack_> i'm an awful person too, maybe that is why
[06:50] <john_> What's the easiest way to get Crossover Office going to I can run iTunes?
[06:50] <thoreauputic> jack-: the channel topic should be at the top of your screen I would think
[06:50] <cdubya> jack_, yeah, it's at the top of the colloquy window.
[06:50] <PokerFacePenguin> where in /var/log should I be looking for evidence telling my why my machine shut down abruptly while running a wine app?
[06:51] <fr500> !info mame
[06:51] <jack_> qahhh
[06:51] <fr500> !info xmame
[06:51] <jack_> it was just hidden, thanks
[06:51] <cdubya> jack_, used to use that client....
[06:51] <cdubya> heh
[06:51] <cyanide> hey
[06:51] <thoreauputic> jack-: do yourself a favour and get a decent IRC client :)
[06:52] <cyanide> ubuntu > all
[06:52] <cyanide> lol
[06:52] <shreevatsa> john_, there are probably packages for Linux that can replace iTunes, getting one of them will be easier, maybe
[06:52] <cyanide> but need help
[06:52] <jack_> thoreauputic : actually this has a really cool feature, it bugs me when you someone says my name and this is not the active window
[06:52] <fr500> Hobbsee: so it's not available?
[06:52] <jdmpike> can everyone else hibernate/suspend their pcs?
[06:52] <Hobbsee> fr500: looks like it
[06:52] <jack_> thoreauputic , including marking it on the scroll bar
[06:52] <thoreauputic> cdubya: the stuff of flamewars :))
[06:52] <cyanide> i cant use the net on ubuntu 5.04, but can ping servers
[06:52] <cdubya> jack_, yeah, it's actually pretty slick...
[06:52] <cyanide> need help
[06:53] <cdubya> thoreaputic, figgered so.
[06:53] <cdubya> :)
[06:53] <thoreauputic> jack-: several clients can do that easily
[06:53] <intelikey> !ask
[06:53] <jack_> cdubya you don't need me to copy the #commented things right?
[06:53] <cyanide> huh ?
[06:53] <PokerFacePenguin> cyanide: got a firewall blocking http?
[06:53] <cdubya> jack_, not necessarily
[06:53] <cyanide> nope
[06:53] <cyanide> i mean, i dunno
[06:53] <cyanide> but dont think so
[06:53] <PokerFacePenguin> cyanide: if you didnt install one ya dont :)
[06:54] <cyanide> just a fresh install of ubuntu
[06:54] <jack_> thoreauputic : can you recommend a good one for OSX then? I grabbed this one because it was free and looked relatively un-evil
[06:54] <fr500> Hobbsee: weird
[06:54] <fr500> !extrarepositories
[06:54] <ubotu> fr500: I give up, what is it?
[06:54] <cdubya> jack_, XChatAqua
[06:54] <Arclite> jack_ X-Chat Aqua
[06:54] <fr500> !repositories
[06:54] <ubotu> [repositories]  How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list
[06:54] <PokerFacePenguin> cyanide: did you use an automated config script like automatix or easy kubuntu?
[06:54] <cdubya> it's pretty good
[06:54] <fr500> !sources
[06:54] <cyanide> no script
[06:54] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:54] <thoreauputic> jack-: there's an xchat for OS-X but it isn't very good IMO - there is irssi though (command line client)
[06:54] <cyanide> and btw, while installing, it detected the network stuff using dhcp
[06:55] <cyanide> but at the end, while checking for apt, it just waited there
[06:55] <cdubya> heh, I always had good luck with XChatAqua....
[06:55] <cyanide> trying to check the net
[06:55] <thoreauputic> cdubya: it's OK
[06:55] <jack_> does xchat work with AIM protocols too or is it just aim?
[06:55] <jack_> er haha, just IRC*
[06:55] <PokerFacePenguin> cyanide: apt can react kinda slow sometimes since there are so many people hitting the main repos..if you change to mirrors you will get quicker response
[06:55] <cyanide> nope
[06:55] <Arclite> jack: just IRC
[06:56] <cyanide> just did nothing
[06:56] <intelikey> cdubya we don't flame, we just hack.
[06:56] <cdubya> heh
[06:56] <cdubya> thanks, intelikey
[06:56] <intelikey> :)
[06:56] <cyanide> the router didnt show any activity
[06:56] <cyanide> help me people :P
[06:56] <thoreauputic> jack-: if you want a multi-protocol client there's Gaim - I don't know if there's an OS-X version though
[06:56] <PokerFacePenguin> cyanide: back to your issue...hmm, so you can ping outside?
[06:56] <cyanide> yes
[06:56] <cdubya> yeah, I use gaim
[06:56] <cyanide> i could ping google
[06:56] <cdubya> it's pretty nice.
[06:56] <cdubya> heard there was supposed to be a new version coming out...?
[06:57] <PokerFacePenguin> and you cant hit google with your browser?
[06:57] <shreevatsa> apt-get gives thison one of the repos: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[06:57] <cyanide> no
[06:57] <jack_> cdubya , it's in the bin under jack_
[06:57] <cdubya> jack_, k
[06:57] <shreevatsa> but the packages.gz there is fine, I downloaded it from the url and checked it
[06:57] <cyanide> even while installing, it was having probs
[06:57] <intelikey> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[06:57] <cyanide> so removed the router power while installing second time
[06:57] <thoreauputic> !start an irc client war
[06:57] <ubotu> irssi is better than konversation !
[06:58] <cdubya> heh
[06:58] <cdubya> that was cool
[06:58] <intelikey> how would that start a war ?
[06:58] <Arclite> Myself and 3 friends have gotten Ubuntu Live working, and myself and another have even installed, no problems. However, a 5th friend claims they ran Live once, wanted to reboot back into Windows, and couldn't. Apparently, the Live CD trashed their Windows system, and it won't boot back up correctly. Are there any documented cases of this?
[06:58] <PokerFacePenguin> cyanide: well, its not a routing issue if you can ping outside your net
[06:58] <cyanide> yes
[06:58] <jack_> Eek
[06:58] <cyanide> so what could it be ?
[06:59] <thoreauputic> intelikey: well, people are pretty loyal to their IRC clients ;)
[06:59] <eno> can I go apt-get install kde then edit my xorg.conf or something and run kde?
[06:59] <PokerFacePenguin> cyanide: sounds like http is blocked to me
[06:59] <intelikey> !start a desktop war
[06:59] <ubotu> ratpoison is much better than kde!
[06:59] <cyanide> how do i unblock it
[06:59] <jack_> hahahahah
[06:59] <shreevatsa> eno, you don't have to edit anything
[06:59] <intelikey> thems fighten words
[06:59] <eno> grrr
[06:59] <cyanide> while installation too
[06:59] <thoreauputic> !start an editor war
[06:59] <shreevatsa> eno, but if you wan't kde, do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:59] <ubotu> notepad.exe is better than emacs.
[06:59] <thoreauputic> hahah
[06:59] <eno> hahaha
[06:59] <cdubya> heh
[07:00] <cdubya> jack_, you definitely don't have any wireless.
[07:00] <cdubya> heh
[07:00] <shreevatsa> want
[07:00] <Arclite> agreed. vim forever!
[07:00] <Fujitsu> I like that, thoreauputic.
[07:00] <Windows_fanboy> lol
[07:00] <eno> isn't there some way to switch between gnome and kde?  I remember I was using flwm for a while...
[07:00] <Fujitsu> Yes, vim forever. But, we digress. We had a large war about 8 hours ago now...
[07:00] <PokerFacePenguin> cyanide: go to a terminal window and type wget http://www.google.com/
[07:00] <cdubya> heh
[07:00] <jack_> cdubya what should i be seeing listed in that file that indicates something is going right?
[07:00] <Windows_fanboy> manuals suck
[07:00] <intelikey> eno if you install kde along side gnome you can choose which desktop at login.
[07:00] <Windows_fanboy> pl
[07:00] <cdubya> jack_, hang on...
[07:00] <Windows_fanboy> ok, but while installation ?
[07:01] <Windows_fanboy> it will get stuck there too
[07:01] <eno> thanks intelikey
[07:01] <intelikey> eno you might consider installing kdm also  :)
[07:01] <Windows_fanboy> it detects dhcp settings at the start of installation, but at the end, it just gets stuck at the apt screen
[07:01] <shreevatsa> Fujitsu, on what?
[07:01] <eno> thanks shreevatsa
[07:02] <eno> what is kdm?
[07:02] <Fujitsu> shreevatsa, on editors!
[07:02] <B_166-ER-X> how can i mount my Kodak digital cam Usb connection ???
[07:02] <intelikey> kde's version of xdm    same as gdm is gnome's version of xdm
[07:02] <shreevatsa> Fujitsu, So, who won? :)
[07:02] <B_166-ER-X> please help..
[07:03] <Fujitsu> shreevatsa, I think it ended up being VIm.
[07:03] <intelikey> x/g/k(display manager)
[07:03] <eno> oooooh
[07:03] <intelikey> eno it is the login screen that you see befor gnome loads
[07:04] <eno> I lost my breezy cd, what do I do when aPT ASKS FOR IT?
[07:04] <cdubya> jack_, here's what mine looks like....well, except for a few lines which I suspect you'll figure out what I'm talking about....  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5499
[07:04] <DrBair> B_166-ER-X:  does gnome-volume-manager pick it up when you plug it in?
[07:04] <Madpilot> eno: edit your sources.list so it doesn't look for the CD
[07:04] <B_166-ER-X> DrBair,  nope.
[07:04] <intelikey> eno edit /etc/apt/apt.conf and comment out the line for the cd and run  apt-get update   and it wont ask for it.
[07:05] <B_166-ER-X> although lusb list it
[07:05] <B_166-ER-X> as Bus 002 Device 003: ID 040a:0131 Kodak Co. DC-5000
[07:05] <DrBair> B_166-ER-X:  whats the model number?
[07:05] <fr500> how can i restore my sources.list after using automatix?
[07:05] <shreevatsa> eno, /etc/apt/sources.list actually
[07:05] <intelikey> errrrr maybe it is dpkg.conf   i don't remember.
[07:05] <eno> thanks!
[07:05] <jack_> hmm, okay thanks cdubya , i mean it's all greek to me, but i have something to compare too now
[07:05] <intelikey> which ever one is there.....
[07:05] <Windows_fanboy> anyone willing to help ?
[07:05] <PokerFacePenguin> fr500: i believe that automatix makes a backup of all files it changes
[07:06] <cdubya> jack_, I was just showing you that to show you the difference.....
[07:06] <jack_> yeah
[07:06] <cdubya> jack_, thing is, it doesn't sound like you ever got the instance of the interface setup
[07:06] <Madpilot> !tell fr500 about sources
[07:06] <intelikey> :)
[07:06] <cdubya> heh
[07:06] <jack_> hahah
[07:06] <jack_> the interface of what though? i'm sort of doing this blind
[07:07] <Windows_fanboy> cmon man
[07:07] <jack_> i mean i am typing what things tell me to type but i do not understand what these apps are doing
[07:07] <jack_> the wrapper is specifically for setting up drivers though, i get that
[07:07] <cdubya> jack_, yeah
[07:08] <BenUrban> why doesn't the fglrx module seem to be installed?
[07:08] <BenUrban> i did install the package...
[07:08] <DrBair> B_166-ER-X:  is gnome-volume-manager enabled to look at digital cameras?
[07:08] <BenUrban> but the module doesn't exist
[07:08] <Madpilot> BenUrban: have you seen the Ubuntu wiki's ATI page?
[07:08] <intelikey> Windows_fanboy i am network illiterate i couldn't help with that if i tried.
[07:08] <BenUrban> yes
[07:08] <fr500> Madpilot: i had some other repos, for pptp and stuff
[07:08] <B_166-ER-X> DrBair,  ..how do i know this ?
[07:08] <DrBair> B_166-ER-X:  it seems like that model is supported by gphoto, but I've had a case where it didn't work as said
[07:08] <Windows_fanboy> you know anyone else ?
[07:09] <DrBair> B_166-ER-X:  system->prefs->removable media
[07:09] <intelikey> Madpilot might know
[07:09] <Madpilot> fr500: and Automatix trashed them?
[07:09] <Madpilot> intelikey: what might I know?
[07:09] <intelikey> of course he's busy right now.
[07:09] <cdubya> Windows_fanboy, you can't get out on the net, is that the issue?
[07:09] <Windows_fanboy> hey madpilot can you help me out ?
[07:09] <fr500> Madpilot: it-s not over yet, but my sources.list looks different now
[07:09] <Windows_fanboy> yes
[07:09] <Windows_fanboy> gets stuck at installation too
[07:09] <fr500> maybe it restores it afterwards
[07:09] <B_166-ER-X> DrBair,  yes. seems enabled
[07:09] <eno> it was sources.list by the way
[07:10] <eno> thanks again
[07:10] <Windows_fanboy> at the end, during the apt thing
[07:10] <Windows_fanboy> tho it detects dhcp settings in the beginning of the install
[07:10] <cdubya> Windows_fanboy, so you've got it cabled?
[07:10] <Windows_fanboy> cabled ?
[07:10] <jack_> i'll be back later
[07:11] <cdubya> Windows_fanboy, you're using a network cable to connect to your router?
[07:11] <Windows_fanboy> yes
[07:11] <cdubya> k
[07:11] <Windows_fanboy> not wireless
[07:11] <Windows_fanboy> its a dlink router
[07:11] <Windows_fanboy> and im using nforce3 based mobo...
[07:11] <cdubya> is the ip you're getting from the router good?
[07:11] <Windows_fanboy> yes
[07:11] <Windows_fanboy> i can ping google after installation
[07:11] <Windows_fanboy> but nothing else
[07:12] <DrBair> B_166-ER-X:  startup gThumb and click on import photos under the file menu
[07:12] <cdubya> so the install never finishes?
[07:12] <intelikey> but cant surf there
[07:12] <Windows_fanboy> yes
[07:12] <Windows_fanboy> and gets stuck during installation
[07:12] <DrBair> B_166-ER-X:  from there select the camera (or try autodetect even) and see if you can't get it going like that
[07:12] <eno> what does *buntu mean?
[07:12] <Windows_fanboy> so if i put on my router, the installation is a waste
[07:12] <Windows_fanboy> have to restart and do installation again
[07:12] <B_166-ER-X> DrBair,  with some searching  and selecting my Cam, Gtkam as been able to do it
[07:13] <intelikey> eno it's on the http://www.ubuntu.com site
[07:13] <BenUrban> any idea why the fglrx driver might not be showing up?
[07:13] <cdubya> what model of router?
[07:13] <Windows_fanboy> dlink 502t
[07:13] <DrBair> B_166-ER-X:  fantastic
[07:14] <DrBair> B_166-ER-X:  is gnome-volume-manager working otherwise? like with usb drives and cdroms?
[07:14] <whyameye> is there a way to know what hw:0,0 vs hw:0,1 is for ALSA?
[07:14] <eno> just the 3 then?
[07:14] <B_166-ER-X> yes he is
[07:14] <maximaus> quickie query (I know how to fix, but curious): the grub default changed without me touching it...happened after an update to a new kernel...could that have changed it?! :S
[07:14] <BenUrban> nobody has encountered this problem before?
[07:14] <B_166-ER-X> Usbdrive usually auto detects
[07:14] <BenUrban> what if i copied my kernel & modules from gentoo? would that do the trick?
[07:15] <Windows_fanboy> dont think so benurban
[07:15] <BenUrban> why not?
[07:15] <Windows_fanboy> because i dont think so :P
[07:15] <BenUrban> lol
[07:15] <Windows_fanboy> dont have a good reason, but trust me
[07:15] <Madpilot> !ati
[07:15] <ubotu> ati is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[07:15] <Madpilot> BenUrban: see above ^^^
[07:15] <BenUrban> Madpilot: i already saw that
[07:15] <shreevatsa> I still want to know if I can specify which frame totem-video-thumbnailer should pick out...
[07:16] <BenUrban> it's a pain to retype that forum link in my other screen though
[07:16] <BenUrban> and i already followed the howto
[07:16] <intelikey> BenUrban you can try it.   but keep the ub kernel around so when it don't boot right you can boot the working package  :)
[07:16] <Madpilot> BenUrban: which ATI card?
[07:16] <BenUrban> heh
[07:16] <BenUrban> Madpilot: radeon 9000m
[07:17] <BenUrban> intelikey: but of course ;)
[07:17] <cdubya> Windows_fanboy, sorry, but I want to make sure I understand how far you've gotten. so you never get the installation completed?
[07:17] <Windows_fanboy> can i pm you ?
[07:17] <intelikey> having bsod fanticies again M$ boy
[07:17] <cdubya> sure
[07:17] <Madpilot> BenUrban: I've got a 9600XT and it runs fine...
[07:17] <BenUrban> Madpilot: the problem is not whether it runs with the driver
[07:17] <B_166-ER-X> DrBair,  migh have been prematurate...dang ; gtKam has an error, and Gthumb have an error too 'could not query kernel driver of device'
[07:17] <Windows_fanboy> shit, i cant pm anyone
[07:17] <BenUrban> the problem is that the driver seems to be missing
[07:18] <BenUrban> even the directory that it should be in isn't there
[07:18] <eno> man, they're right... everything starts with a k
[07:18] <Madpilot> BenUrban: "Your card model is an entire number in the 9xxx series, and is equal to or above 9500"
[07:18] <mkyb14> anyone here use wine?
[07:18] <Madpilot> BenUrban: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto -- I'm going to add that to the /ATI page as well
[07:19] <shreevatsa> Hey, I remembered: I haven't been able to get wine to work either
[07:19] <thoreauputic> !anyone
[07:19] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[07:19] <mkyb14> damn it i dont' know how to install the apps
[07:19] <BenUrban> lol @ anyone
[07:19] <shreevatsa> wine exits with "Warning: the specified System directory L"c:\\windows\\system" is not accessible."
[07:19] <whyameye> in ALSA how can I know the difference between hw:0,0 and hw:0,1 for example?
[07:19] <eno> try ReactOS :P
[07:20] <shreevatsa> rather, with "wine: cannot open (null)"
[07:20] <Lewix> hi again
[07:20] <Lewix> still the same problem
[07:20] <Lewix> I really need help
[07:20] <intelikey> hehhe can not open null   :)
[07:21] <Lewix> I need a link that works,where I can downlaod the dvd iso of ubuntu
[07:21] <screwy> I'm in need of help with my soundcard.
[07:22] <Madpilot> !tell Lewix about download
[07:22] <shreevatsa> Lewix, there is no DVD. Ubuntu comes on a single CD
[07:22] <thoreauputic> shreevatsa: erm, there *is* a DVD
[07:22] <Lewix> well it's a bit unprofessional..they put a lot of links to download the dvd in their website
[07:22] <shreevatsa> sorry then! :(
[07:23] <Lewix> and they are all down
[07:23] <whyameye> shreevatsa: I downloaded the DVD the other day. It has both Live and Install on it. Only available through a .torrent seed I believe.
[07:23] <Madpilot> Lewix: the torrent doesn't even work?
[07:23] <Lewix> the torrent works but It's so slow
[07:23] <intelikey> screwy some said 'cat /proc/asound/cards '  or something like to see if the system knows your hardware or not.
[07:23] <Madpilot> shreevatsa: very bottom of this: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/ for the DV
[07:23] <Madpilot> DVD
[07:23] <Lewix> I'm still dl it since 3days
[07:23] <screwy> I'll try it, intelikey.
[07:24] <Madpilot> Lewix: how big is the DVD d/l?
[07:24] <Lewix> so please if someone can dcc me
[07:24] <Lewix> 2.8
[07:24] <Lewix> gig
[07:24] <screwy> Intel: 0 [Intel          ] : HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
[07:24] <screwy>                      HDA Intel at 0xefffc000 irq 16
[07:24] <BenUrban> ;)
[07:24] <intelikey> screwy if your card shows up there then it may just be muted.
[07:24] <intelikey> yeah
[07:24] <intelikey> alsamixer
[07:25] <shreevatsa> When is the earliest I can register on Shipit to get Dapper CDs?
[07:25] <screwy> My problemis that, sure, I can hear sound through xmms and such, but I can't hear sound from Flash, and I can't input any sound.
[07:25] <Lewix> In fact I've been able to download it somewhere but I think that the file is corrupted
[07:25] <Madpilot> screwy: Flash sound is a different problem
[07:25] <Lewix> please guys help
[07:25] <screwy> Oh.  Well, that's not the biggets of my worries.
[07:26] <ardchoille> Where can I find some official/supported Ubuntu logos/icons?
[07:26] <screwy> It's the imput that I'm worried about.
[07:26] <screwy> *input
[07:26] <Madpilot> screwy: for flash & sound, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-14b59545789e901fc704a72bfea6a592efb9cdd5
[07:26] <varsendagger> ardchoille, gnome-look has some i think
[07:26] <Lewix> arf
[07:26] <screwy> Thanks, Madpilot
[07:26] <intelikey> input ?    explain
[07:26] <Madpilot> ardchoille: search the wiki for "art"
[07:27] <ardchoille> varsendagger: thanks :)
[07:27] <ardchoille> Madpilot: ah, good idea
[07:27] <_jason> ubotu, tell ardchoille about art
[07:27] <screwy> Well, when I plug a mic in and try and record, the app freezes.
[07:27] <linux_n00b_e> How do i change the permissions of a file thru the Terminal?
[07:27] <varsendagger> ubotu tell varsendagger about art
[07:27] <_jason> linux_n00b_e, chmod
[07:27] <thoreauputic> linux_n00b_e: chmod, chown etc
[07:28] <ardchoille> _jason: thanks :)
[07:28] <intelikey> linux_n00b_e   man chmod
[07:28] <linux_n00b_e> Thanks!
[07:28] <Lewix> k I will change my distrib I'll try debian I'm tired
[07:28] <thoreauputic> chmod for permissions, chown for ownership
[07:28] <intelikey> linux_n00b_e you will need sudo if you don't own the file.
[07:30] <screwy> Any idea what's wrong?
[07:30] <intelikey> linux_n00b_e and word to the wise, don't play with sudo'd ch*'s any place but in $HOME/    you can make a system unusable/unbootable with the wrong chmod in /
[07:31] <intelikey> screwy no.  not without more details. and i might not know anyway.     errr probably wont.
[07:32] <intelikey> screwy i've never had that problem.
[07:33] <screwy> Well, I'm on a Dell Dimension 9100 with Breezy.
[07:33] <screwy> And this isn't the first time I've had trouble with Ubuntu and Dell,
[07:33] <intelikey> hmmmm
[07:34] <screwy> Back when I installed Hoary on this computer, it wouldn't even recognize my ethernet card, let alone my soundcard at all.
[07:35] <intelikey> speeking of sound cards.... i need to change the one in this box...
[07:36] <intelikey> screwy have you tried record from the cli to see if it errored out ?
[07:36] <screwy> CLI?
[07:37] <intelikey> install "sox"  for the 'play' and 'record' commands.
[07:37] <PokerFacePenguin> screwy: command line interface
[07:37] <screwy> Nope.
[07:37] <intelikey> cli=command line interface.   as opposed to gui=graphical user interface
[07:37] <screwy> Apt-getting sox right now.
[07:38] <screwy> OK. Got it.
[07:38] <screwy> Now what?
[07:38] <intelikey> man record
[07:38] <screwy> No manual entry for record.
[07:39] <intelikey> hmmm man play
[07:39] <screwy> There,
[07:40] <screwy> man rec
[07:40] <intelikey> oh  record on some systems  :)
[07:40] <screwy> Thanks, though
[07:41] <screwy> Not to badger you guys too much...  But I have no idea what I'm reading.
[07:42] <Madpilot> man pages are often like that...
[07:42] <quacker> G'nite, hoser.
[07:42] <intelikey> me too.   gooday
[07:44] <jbroome> i'm out too
[07:45] <pr1r> hi again im back with the same question...
[07:45] <screwy> Yes?
[07:46] <pr1r> i have an geforce fx 5200 agp video card that i wanted as my main monitor... i cannot get it to work and the video card that is working (voodoo 3) is like 640 by 480 right now... ive did what the wiki says and can not get the monitor to work
[07:46] <pr1r> wow i dont think that posted everything
[07:46] <pr1r> i cannot get my agp - geforce fx 5200 video card to work
[07:47] <screwy> Sorry, man, I'm hardware-tarded.
[07:47] <screwy> Hence why I'm here.
[07:47] <pr1r> lol
[07:47] <pr1r> damn
[07:47] <screwy> Having big soundcard issues.
[07:47] <pr1r> yeah
[07:47] <pr1r> what you got
[07:47] <pr1r> cl5.1?
[07:47] <screwy> You see, I have absolutely no idea what that means :P
[07:47] <pr1r> oh
[07:48] <pr1r> creative labs 5.1
[07:48] <screwy> /home/screwy/Desktop/Tunes/Unknown Artist/Unknown Title/08 - Track 8.ogg
[07:48] <screwy> Whoops.
[07:48] <screwy> 0 [Intel          ] : HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
[07:48] <screwy>                      HDA Intel at 0xefffc000 irq 16
[07:48] <screwy> ^ that
[07:48] <pr1r> its the sound card from the computer...
[07:48] <shreevatsa> screwy: BTW, I love that song :)
[07:48] <pr1r> yeah
[07:48] <screwy> haha
[07:48] <pr1r> that songs off the meat rack
[07:49] <screwy> Nah, it's from the Rapeublicans EP.
[07:49] <pr1r> oh
[07:50] <mlv2005> how can i install the psi
[07:50] <pr1r> whats in the psi?
[07:51] <pr1r> ok
[07:51] <mlv2005> messaging application like yahoo messenger
[07:51] <Hobbsee> !info psi
[07:51] <quadra> [ !unload : no module with this name ] 
[07:51] <ubotu> psi: (Jabber client using Qt), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.9.3-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 2064 kB, Installed size: 6124 kB
[07:52] <Hobbsee> mlv2005: sudo apt-get install psi
[07:52] <Locke> how do i check what kernel i have?
[07:52] <Madpilot> Locke: uname -a in a terminal
[07:54] <linux_n00b_e> How can I tell which shell I'm using when i'm in the console?
[07:55] <shreevatsa> linux_n00b_e: try  echo $SHELL
[07:55] <linux_n00b_e> Thanks...
[07:55] <shreevatsa> linux_n00b_e: but most of the time, it will probably be bash, anyway
[07:56] <shreevatsa> linux_n00b_e: but most of the time, it will probably be bash, anyway
[07:56] <shreevatsa> oops, sorry
[07:57] <linux_n00b_e> it is... :)
[07:57] <mlv2005> it ok now i got it
[07:57] <mlv2005> thanks
[07:57] <mlv2005> by
[07:57] <mlv2005> bye for now
[07:58] <mlv2005> thanks to hobbsee
[07:58] <Hobbsee> no problems mlv2005
[07:58] <hylas> psi looks pretty ordinary
[07:59] <mlv2005> hylas do you have any suggestion
[07:59] <hylas> For what?
[07:59] <whyameye> Just got a ShoutCast setup running on ubuntu. Wow this is hot! Using jack and jack-rack with darkice is hot! I *highly* recommend...
[07:59] <mlv2005> for psi
[07:59] <hylas> to make it better you mean?
[07:59] <mlv2005> yes
[08:00] <hylas> from just opening it up, it seems to lack features, things that stand out to you etc
[08:00] <mlv2005> what do you use instead
[08:01] <hylas> well since gaim comes with ubuntu, I've been using that.
[08:01] <shaya> hy all
[08:01] <mlv2005> ah ok, im just trying to explore a little bit
[08:02] <shaya> i now user in this room
[08:03] <Fujitsu> he now not user in this room
[08:05] <eno> I am in KDE!
[08:05] <eno> thanks a tonne
[08:05] <shreevatsa> Fujitsu: lol
[08:06] <eno> it took forever cause I had this crazy thing with gnutella using up my inodes
[08:06] <chaumurky> Hi all, who's using GAIM here?
[08:06] <shreevatsa> chaumurky: for IRC, or in general?
[08:06] <chaumurky> Oh, now - for IRC
[08:07] <shreevatsa> chaumurky: not me, sorry
[08:07] <chaumurky> just had a tweak quastion...
[08:08] <chaumurky> I'll keep digging around...
[08:08] <shreevatsa> chaumurky: go ahead, someone might be able to answer it...
[08:08] <chaumurky> Well, I just wanted to turn off the 'entering'/'exiting' messages.
[08:09] <chaumurky> can't see an option
[08:10] <shreevatsa> chaumurky: Gaim isn't really known for being an IRC client.. it's cheifly for IM
[08:10] <shreevatsa> chaumurky: you could xchat instead...
[08:10] <chaumurky> Yeah, I know. I use my old msn account for it - just thought I could kill 2 birds...
[08:11] <shreevatsa> chaumurky: you can kill them, but you'll need 2 stones :)
[08:12] <chaumurky> :-)
[08:12] <eno> thanks for your help everybody... I think I am going back to Gnome
[08:13] <chaumurky> KDE makes my teeth hurt...
[08:13] <chorse> chaumurky, that's cause of all the kandy :)
[08:13] <chaumurky> klol
[08:14] <learnfromscratch> when ever i call a php program thru my browser.. it starts downloading the php file.. how do i make it execute the php program in the server.. I am running the server locally . am running debian
[08:14] <chaumurky> have you installed the php extension for apache2?
[08:15] <monkievox> howdy all!  i'm installing UBUNTU 510.  i'm at the part in the install where i'm dealing with partitions.  what file system should i use?  Ext3? ReiserFS?  any advice?
[08:16] <chorse> monkievox, if you are unsure use the default, in this case ext3.
[08:16] <chaumurky> learnfromscratch: try sudo a2enmod php4  && sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[08:17] <Tmfc> I'm just getting into Ubuntu.  ... just wanted to see if I could post on this IRC (my first time on IRC)
[08:17] <chaumurky> Tmfc: success!
[08:18] <Tmfc> woo hoo
[08:18] <tisay> hi
[08:18] <y0z> ext3 is the 'usual' choice i think
[08:18] <monkievox> yOz: what makes it so?
[08:18] <monkievox> chorse/yOz: thanks :)
[08:18] <Tmfc> so my first question... ubuntu has updates every 6 months.  does that mean when I update, I get a new kernel? (I recall upgrading the kernal in Debian to be a pain)
[08:19] <chaumurky> Tmfc: usually, yes.
[08:19] <chorse> monkievox, np :)
[08:19] <linux_n00b_e> I'm trying to change the permissions for a file for user and group. I type out: sudo chmod ug + rwx [filename] , but I keep getting an error saying: invalid mode string 'ug'. This is the way the man said to type it, so why am I getting errors?
[08:19] <Madpilot> Tmfc: yes, and it's fairly painless, IME
[08:20] <Chousuke> Tmfc: updating the kernel isn't difficult at all
[08:20] <chaumurky> Tmfc: just wait till the official release.
[08:20] <Chousuke> Tmfc: you problem with debian may have been the transition from 2.4 to 2.6.
[08:20] <fulld> new install of ubuntu freezes at first boot of X - any hints?
[08:20] <Tmfc> great. thx.
[08:20] <Chousuke> usually you just install the linux-image-whatever packages and reboot.
[08:20] <chorse> linux_n00b_e, try ug+rwx
[08:20] <Chousuke> if using grub
[08:21] <linux_n00b_e> thanks chorse
[08:21] <Tmfc> i  didn't really have a problem with debian.  I only upgraded the kernel once, but I recall a bunch of things.  it may have been from 2.4 to 2.6
[08:21] <chorse> np :)
[08:22] <Tmfc> I recall having to do a bunch of weird things...
[08:22] <Tmfc> thanks for the feedback.  i look forward to learning ubunto.  Good to know where to get help!  thanks!
[08:22] <Madpilot> Tmfc: only thing I had to do was restart - which is wierd enough - and then reconfigure my ATI 3d drivers
[08:23] <Tmfc> you mean restart after the upgrade?
[08:23] <chaumurky> Tmfc: new kernel is about the only thing you need to reboot for.
[08:23] <jack_> hello all!
[08:24] <Madpilot> Tmfc: yes, restart after the kernel upgrade
[08:24] <Tmfc> gotcha. thanks!
[08:24] <Madpilot> and then again after the ATI fix - I restarted more that day that I had for the previous two or three weeks...
[08:25] <linux_n00b_e> Ok, I'm really getting frustrated, arg! I'm trying to change the icon of my external drive that i have on my desktop. Whenever I right click on it and access the properties box to change the picture, I get an error message saying that I don't have sufficient privilages to make changes to '.directory'. But I just changed the permissions to the file in the Terminal using chmod. So why am I still getting this error message?
[08:30] <monkievox> um ... swap partition should be primary, ja?
[08:30] <YukiIkyuta> monkievox, ja.
[08:30] <iicaptain> don't matter
[08:30] <Fujitsu> Not necessarily, ja.
[08:31] <monkievox> thanks all :)
[08:31] <YukiIkyuta> Fujitsu, warum so?
[08:31] <Fujitsu> 2/1.
[08:31] <Fujitsu> YukiIkyuta, why does it matter!!??
[08:31] <YukiIkyuta> Fujitsu, warum nicht!?
[08:31] <iicaptain> mine's hda5 (secondary)
[08:31] <Fujitsu> 
[08:31] <YukiIkyuta> iicaptain, nein! As in, the difference between primary and logical/extended.
[08:31] <Fujitsu> DAMNUIM.
[08:31] <monkievox> ja!
[08:31] <chorse> YukiIkyuta, worum geht es? :)
[08:31] <YukiIkyuta> Fujitsu, 
[08:32] <iicaptain> just make it a 'middle' partition for speed
[08:32] <Madpilot> Just buy more RAM, for speed ;)
[08:32] <YukiIkyuta> Madpilot :)
[08:32] <monkievox> primary vs. logical, not actual location on disk
[08:32] <Fujitsu> Madpilot, true.
[08:32] <iicaptain> and that...
[08:32] <YukiIkyuta> But, iicaptain, primary vs. logical is the question here.
[08:32] <iicaptain> primary vs. logical doesn't matter.
[08:32] <YukiIkyuta> Fujitsu, ko:nnen wir `Logical' haben?
[08:33] <Madpilot> ... I'm seriously comptemplating putting a 2nd Gb in this box; I hardly stress the CPU but I seem to use buckets of RAM...
[08:33] <YukiIkyuta> RAM is probably the scarcest resource a computer typically has available to it.
[08:33] <YukiIkyuta> I don't see many of us using `swap CPUs' :)
[08:33] <iicaptain> as long as fstab is correct
[08:33] <Fujitsu> Madpilot, Gnome will take care of the RAM eating for you.
[08:33] <monkievox> i'll try primary then
[08:34] <YukiIkyuta> monkievox, I'd say, though it might not matter if it's primary or logical, there's no reason not to use primary.
[08:34] <Fujitsu> Damnit. I have this annoying habit of not properly releasing shift before I press space, so Uim kicks in.
[08:34] <YukiIkyuta> Fujitsu, I changed the mapping to ctrl+shift+space.
[08:34] <monkievox> aye, danke all! :)
[08:34] <Fujitsu> YukiIkyuta, except if you already have enough primaries!
[08:34] <iicaptain> if you use less than 4 partitions it's arbitrary
[08:34] <Madpilot> Fujitsu: I'm running Gnome - but with 8 virtual desktops and 100+ processes running at once B)
[08:34] <YukiIkyuta> O_o
[08:34] <Fujitsu> Madpilot, that might eat some RAM, yes.
[08:34] <Coweater> Madpilot: how are you checking the amount of ram you're using?
[08:34] <jack_> what does shift space do?
[08:35] <YukiIkyuta> jack_, it's UIM's default mode-change key.
[08:35] <monkievox> hmmm ... including this new swap aprt, looks like i'll have five parts altogether
[08:35] <YukiIkyuta> At least for Japanese.
[08:35] <jack_> UIM?
[08:35] <iicaptain> Lamb is nicer than Ram
[08:35] <YukiIkyuta> monkievox, typically the installer will warm you if anything goes amuk.
[08:35] <iicaptain> for eating...
[08:35] <Madpilot> Coweater: the System Monitor app on my panel - I've heard that overestimates the RAM in use, but I'm still using masses of it
[08:35] <monkievox> yuki: sure
[08:35] <YukiIkyuta> jack_, Universal Input Method (?? just a guess!) - for entering foreign languages, eg: 
[08:36] <jack_> YukiIkyuta gotcha
[08:36] <monkievox> yuki: i'll give it a whirl, see what happens :)
[08:36] <YukiIkyuta> monkievox, good luck!
[08:36] <chorse> YukiIkyuta is insulting us on japanese :)
[08:37] <iicaptain> weak...
[08:37] <Coweater> depending on how it checks it may appear to use a whole bunch when it isn't actually being used, just cache
[08:37] <YukiIkyuta> Hah, no.
[08:37] <chorse> just had a discussion about japanese text input on gnome with a friend some days ago
[08:38] <YukiIkyuta> Oh?
[08:39] <chorse> YukiIkyuta, he started to teach himself some japanese basics
[08:39] <YukiIkyuta> I see. o_O
[08:40] <YukiIkyuta> The input seems to work fine for me.
[08:44] <learnfromscratch> is there a way do group install like the one in yum group install
[08:44] <nailbiter> learnfromscratch: What's a group install? Installing the same set of packages on a group of computers?
[08:46] <nailbiter> learnfromscratch: Did you mean 'group of packages'?  Ubuntu has special 'virtual packages' which do roughly the same thing.  'x-window-system' for example, will pull in all the base X11 packages
[08:47] <dirkson> As a windows refugee, here's a bit of a n00b question: Running ext3, am I going to have to ever 'defrag' my partitions?
[08:48] <Madpilot> dirkson: nope
[08:48] <nailbiter> dirkson: 1) Believe it or not, there's no standard ext3 defragger 2) In most cases, fragmentation doesn't hurt performance all that much in ext3
[08:48] <Locke> for some reason my mic won't work on Linux, do i have to do anything special to get it to work
[08:48] <nailbiter> dirkson: If you still want to defrag, you can use e2defrag, but will have to convert the filesystem back to ext2 first
[08:49] <YukiIkyuta> dirkson, ultimately, fragmentation is not a problem you'll ever have to worry about.
[08:49] <ubuntu_> just got gnoppix running - Is there a way to make a hard drive install like in knoppix
[08:49] <Madpilot> nailbiter: I thought that the journalling stuff that ext3 did removed the need to defrag?
[08:49] <YukiIkyuta> gnoppix ..?
[08:49] <learnfromscratch> how do i know the number of packages that are there in my apt-get source repositories
[08:49] <nailbiter> Madpilot: Journalling doesn't reduce fragmentation at all; it's just a safety feature that logs writes ahead of time
[08:49] <dirkson> All: Cool. Thanks a lot : )  (I was kinda thinking journalling did that myself, actually...)
[08:50] <ubuntu_> yki - yes gnoppix
[08:50] <Madpilot> nailbiter: guess this Windows refugee misunderstood that a bit, then ;)
[08:50] <Locke> for some reason my mic won't work on Linux, do i have to do anything special to get it to work
[08:50] <YukiIkyuta> ubuntu_, gnoppix + ubuntu?!
[08:51] <nailbiter> If you really need a filesystem that can be defragged online, there's reiser4 and xfs
[08:51] <ubuntu_> yes - when i downloaded gnoppix it seams to be ubuntu???
[08:51] <nailbiter> Locke: Check the microphone/line-in mixer levels first
[08:51] <YukiIkyuta> That's quite interesting. oO
[08:51] <YukiIkyuta> Well.
[08:52] <YukiIkyuta> That would be due to the fact that gnoppix is based from ubuntu..
[08:52] <Myrtti> :-P
[08:52] <nailbiter> Locke: Some sound chipsets can also selectively mute input sources; make sure you've unmuted them in the GNOME mixer applet
[08:52] <dirkson> nailbiter: Not really. My boot time is laughably fast now that I've edited the rc.d files and switched to xfce. I've got to say, I really don't understand why xfce isn't more popular.
[08:52] <jane> chat2x t b!
[08:52] <YukiIkyuta> But I don't see why you wouldn't just install Ubuntu itself.
[08:52] <jane> you ho!
[08:52] <jane> reply sad uy!
[08:52] <ubuntu_> Well - I like the portablility - although it did take a bit to load up
[08:53] <jane> yak di diay ko
[08:53] <jane> why man di-......
[08:53] <jane> ayo1
[08:53] <jane> ayo!
[08:53] <YukiIkyuta> ubuntu_, well, if you want it for its portability then there's no need to install it.
[08:53] <ubuntu_> i need to remaster a live cd to use gnucash and gnoppix seems clean enough
[08:53] <jane> hoy
[08:53] <jane> hoy
[08:53] <jane> hoy6
[08:53] <jane> hoy
[08:53] <jane> hoy
[08:53] <Myrtti> !ops
[08:53] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[08:54] <ubuntu_> yuki - you are right
[08:54] <YukiIkyuta> Fast. o_O
[08:54] <dirkson> Locke: I had a weird issue with teamspeak and my microphone. I had to turn something called 'igain' up- It's not listed under my alsamixer, but it was listed under whatever the default xfce mixer is.
[08:54] <nalioth> Myrtti: did anyone suggest the spanish channel?
[08:55] <ubuntu_> i was looking at how clean Beatrix ran when i came up with this idia
[08:55] <learnfromscratch> do i need 1)makedev 2)inetd 3)inetdutils-inetd 4)rsync  ? should i add them  in rcconf ???
[08:55] <Myrtti> I would've, if I had recognized that as Spanish
[08:56] <jack_> anyone have suggestions for getting my wireless card working? I've followed a number of different versions of using ndiswrapper to try to do it
[08:56] <monkievox> what card?
[08:56] <learnfromscratch> jack_:  install wireless-tools
[08:56] <jack_> okays
[08:56] <jack_> learnfromscratch : thanks
[08:57] <learnfromscratch> and check iwconfig if it detects any device.. and u must have 2.6<= kernel
[08:57] <jack_> iwconfig is a command?
[08:57] <nalioth> jack_: it is
[08:58] <YukiIkyuta> Interface wireless config!
[08:59] <looksun> 
[08:59] <learnfromscratch> ya jack iwconfig is a command similar to ifconfig
[08:59] <learnfromscratch> jack_:
[08:59] <linux_n00b_e> Can someone please help me.
[09:00] <nalioth> linux_n00b_e: have you asked a question?
[09:00] <webwolf_27> linux_n00b_e, with what?
[09:01] <linux_n00b_e> I have changed the permissions and the owner of a file that I need to write to in order to change the icon of an item on my desktop. Yet wheneverI go to change the icon I keep getting an error message saying that I don't have sufficient access to write to the file. What am I doing wrong?
[09:01] <Madpilot> linux_n00b_e: when you bring up the Properties of the Desktop icon, who owns it?
[09:01] <webwolf_27> linux_n00b_e, ls -l path/to/file/name
[09:01] <jack_> learnfromscratch : iwconfig just tells me that lo and sit0 have no wireless configurations
[09:02] <nalioth> linux_n00b_e: please don't change permissions of more thing than are necessary, what file(s) are you trying to change/write ?
[09:02] <jack_> but i will get wireless tools
[09:02] <jack_> and seew what i can do
[09:02] <linux_n00b_e> The file is .directory which I guess stores all of the info for things that appear on the desktop....
[09:03] <webwolf_27> linux_n00b_e, in gnome?
[09:03] <linux_n00b_e> I've used chmod and chown to change the permissions and owner of the fike to me, yet I keep getting error messages. No, I'm using KDE....
[09:04] <Madpilot> linux_n00b_e: there's no .directory on my system...
[09:04] <jack_> learnfromscratch : I don't see wireless-manager by that exact name, but i have like "Wifi-radar" and "KwifiManager"
[09:04] <linux_n00b_e> It's a hidden file. You have to enable hidden files to be shown....
[09:05] <Madpilot> linux_n00b_e: I know, and I don't have one on my Gnome system
[09:05] <_Rappy_> Ok, I got a 40GB disk on a laptop. 5GB is used for win (need it to test stuff). THe rest is for Ubuntu. Now, how is the best way to partition it? IE which partitions should I have (/swap /boot /home etc) and how large should each be?
[09:05] <robotgeek> jack_: you need wireless in /etc/network/interfaces
[09:05] <monkievox> _Rappy_: hey, i'm doing that right now!
[09:06] <webwolf_27> linux_n00b_e, what are the permissions / ownerships set to
[09:06] <MiSS_n001> hi im getting this error: gyach: error while loading shared libraries: libltdl.so.3: cannot open shared object file , anyone know hos i can install this libltdl thing?
[09:06] <robotgeek> jack_: like "iface eth1/wlan0 inet dhcp
[09:06] <jack_> robotgeek : i'm not sure i understand, should i just add text to that file?
[09:06] <robotgeek> jack_: do you know what is the name of your wireless interface
[09:06] <linux_n00b_e> The icon that I'm trying to change is the folder that points to my second internal hard drive. The owner of the symbolic link is root.
[09:06] <webwolf_27> linux_n00b_e, did you change them only for the dir or did you use -R, what about the parent dir
[09:06] <monkievox> rappy: you'll have to ask others for more informed opinion, i used partition magic in windows to set up a big root part and a smaller swap part and that's it.
[09:07] <_Rappy_> monkievox :ok :)
[09:07] <webwolf_27> linux_n00b_e, root always owns symlinks
[09:07] <linux_n00b_e> You know what, I think that I'm trying to change the wrong thing.....
[09:07] <monkievox> Rappy: swap should be 2x or 3x yer system RAM, is what i'm told.
[09:07] <_Rappy_> right now I think I got 1GB swap and the rest is just / , but I wonder if there is a better way
[09:07] <_Rappy_> monkievox : that's how much I've figures out too :)
[09:07] <_Rappy_> *figured
[09:08] <webwolf_27> linux_n00b_e, that very well may be
[09:08] <linux_n00b_e> Maybe instead of trying to change the permissions for the .directory file, maybe I should be changing the permissions for my mount folder of my second internal hard drive....
[09:08] <Kruzayn> ok, anyone know a good way to shring an NTFS partition that is being stubborn with QT and ntfsresize, it says it can only make another partition of 500mb when i have 7.5 gigs free on the drive.  I just am off a fresh defrag
[09:08] <MiSS_n001> how can i get these shared libraries: libltdl.so.3
[09:08] <monkievox> rappy: i'm a unix noob, but so far that setup has worked fine fer me :)
[09:08] <Kruzayn> shrink*
[09:08] <nailbiter> MiSS_n001: That's in the 'libltdl3' package
[09:08] <Tomcat_> Kruzayn: Have you done a chkdsk?
[09:09] <webwolf_27> monkievox, the standard setup works well for most
[09:09] <Locke> whats a good voip program?
[09:09] <MiSS_n001> i tried $ sudo apt-get install libltdl3 and it doesnt work
[09:09] <Kruzayn> ahh no i havent.  good idea, any paramaters with it (sry its late im not thinking clear this was my last hope)
[09:09] <jack_> robotgeek: the name?  running LSPCI says that is is "broadcom corporation BCM4306"
[09:09] <robotgeek> jack_: uggh, you need ndiswrapper
[09:09] <jack_> robotgeek: and someone got me the .inf file that necesarry
[09:10] <nailbiter> Locke: I've heard gnomemeeting is ok; tried that yet?
[09:10] <jack_> robotgeek: yeah i have it
[09:10] <webwolf_27> Locke, skype, or kphone, there are several
[09:10] <Locke> nailbiter: yes, it's horrible
[09:10] <jack_> robotgeek: i tried it a number of times actually
[09:10] <robotgeek> jack_: hmm, i'm sorry. i don't have much experience with that
[09:10] <Tomcat_> Kruzayn: chkdsk /f (fix errors)
[09:10] <jack_> robotgeek: okays, thanks anyways
[09:10] <nailbiter> MiSS_n001: What's the error message?
[09:10] <webwolf_27> linux_n00b_e, maybe you should mount it as user
[09:10] <Locke> webwolf_27: know of any others?
[09:11] <webwolf_27> Locke, check sourceforge, or freshmeat. I've read about a few
[09:11] <MiSS_n001> gyach: error while loading shared libraries: libltdl.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:11] <Kruzayn> thanks alot ill give it a try
[09:11] <linux_n00b_e> If I do that, then whenever I want to add files to it, I'll have to put in my pass. That gets annoying after a while. Heck, I'm the only person that even uses this box.
[09:12] <Locke> i need one thats for Windows AND Linux
[09:12] <webwolf_27> Locke, skype
[09:12] <Locke> webwolf_27 i tried skype and it sounded liek crap
[09:12] <W_Nyctea_> hi all, i'm on win xp now, is there any other IRC client other than mIRC? is mIRC safe to use?
[09:12] <webwolf_27> Locke, what are you using for the comunication
[09:13] <nailbiter> MiSS_n001: If you've installed libltdl3, that shared library would have ended up in /usr/lib. Did the installation fail?
[09:13] <Locke> cable
[09:13] <faizan> hey!!
[09:13] <monkievox> W_Nyctea: try trillian from cerulean studios
[09:13] <MiSS_n001> no i just dont know how to install it
[09:13] <webwolf_27> W_Nyctea_, gaim works on win
[09:13] <monkievox> http://www.ceruleanstudios.com/
[09:13] <nailbiter> MiSS_n001: But you said you ran 'sudo apt-get install libltdl3'. That would have installed it.
[09:13] <faizan> whats a good mp3 player somethin tht plays real media files as well
[09:13] <faizan> and looks decent
[09:14] <faizan> unlike xmms
[09:14] <W_Nyctea_> monkievox: can it save all the channel that i go into so that i dun have to retype everytime?
[09:14] <MiSS_n001> oh yeah that doesnt work tho
[09:14] <webwolf_27> Locke, I meant headset, voipphone, speakers+mic ??
[09:14] <MiSS_n001> Reading package lists... Done
[09:14] <MiSS_n001> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:14] <MiSS_n001> E: Couldn't find package libltdl3
[09:14] <monkievox> webwolf: via cygwin? or , uh ... native?
[09:14] <MiSS_n001> oops sorry
[09:14] <ardchoille> I downloaded the Ubuntu.ttf font, now how do I install it?
[09:14] <robotgeek> faizan: real media is a fat cry. try beep-media-player
[09:14] <webwolf_27> monkievox, native
[09:14] <robotgeek> s/fat/far
[09:14] <faizan> had it.. is it any good?
[09:14] <W_Nyctea_> webwolf_27: can i save the channel that i visit?
[09:15] <monkievox> W_Nyctea: hmm ... it saves the IRC servers.  i haven't tried saving individual channels
[09:15] <robotgeek> faizan: pretty good, tho i use amarok
[09:15] <faizan> amarok kinda sucks on gnome
[09:15] <nailbiter> MiSS_n001: 'libltdl3' is in the 'universe' archive; have you added that yet?
[09:15] <MiSS_n001> oh
[09:15] <MiSS_n001> nope
[09:15] <webwolf_27> W_Nyctea_, not sure. I don't use win. and for irc I use XChat
[09:15] <MiSS_n001> i'll do it now
[09:15] <monkievox> W_Nyctea: i dunno if GAIM does what you want, but i've seen it a little on linux and it looks pretty sweet
[09:16] <W_Nyctea_> thanks for both of you. have you used mIRC as well?
[09:16] <monkievox> yay! my ubuntu just finished installing!
[09:16] <Beleys> Bjour
[09:16] <webwolf_27> W_Nyctea_, It's alot like trillian
[09:16] <monkievox> W_Nyctea: a little. not much
[09:16] <webwolf_27> W_Nyctea_, I avoid closed source
[09:16] <SELVI_> huyup
[09:17] <faizan> robotgeek: do u use gnome?
[09:17] <monkievox> W_Nyctea: yea, trillian is free, but CLOSED
[09:17] <sirexas> is there are a way, whant i press on an icon on the gnome toolbar, opened program automaticaly becoms maximized?
[09:17] <W_Nyctea_> monkievox & webwolf: thanks
[09:17] <robotgeek> faizan: yes, and a bunch of kde apps
[09:17] <monkievox> W_Nyctea: np :)
[09:17] <webwolf_27> W_Nyctea_, np
[09:17] <faizan> dont the kde stuff give u a hard time
[09:17] <robotgeek> faizan: it's been wonderful :)
[09:18] <webwolf_27> faizan, it shouldn't if the libs are installed right
[09:18] <faizan> webwolf: you know what libs i must install to run amarok on gnome
[09:19] <monkievox> yes! got my usb mouse working "out of the box"! woo-hoo! so far i'm digging ubuntu!
[09:19] <monkievox> friggin suse 10
[09:19] <webwolf_27> faizan, apt-get install amarok should install every needed
[09:19] <webwolf_27> monkievox, usb usually isn't a problem on 2.6 kernels
[09:20] <monkievox> webwolf_27: yeah, i'm too much a noob to know what was up.  but it was frustrating and decided i'd try other distro's.
[09:21] <monkievox> i'm installing onto an HP laptop. it found the touchpad ok, but didn't detect ANYTHING usb :(
[09:21] <monkievox> suse didn't, that is
[09:21] <monkievox> ubuntu found it all ok
[09:21] <monkievox> hmmm ... still some trouble with the wifi though.
[09:21] <webwolf_27> monkievox, ubuntu is good for noobies, as an expierenced user I only have minor complaints about ubuntu
[09:21] <barosl^win> is there any good tool for mssql?
[09:22] <webwolf_27> monkievox, wireless can be a bit*h in linux
[09:22] <monkievox> webwolf_27: good for noobs?  cool! :)
[09:22] <linux_n00b_e> ok, I finally changed the icon. Now what do I need to do in order to get the trashcan to show up on the desktop?
[09:22] <sirexas> how can I make, that programs lounched from an icone becomes maximized?
[09:22] <jack_> webwolf_27 , monkievox : wiresless IS a bitch
[09:23] <monkievox> webwolf_27: yeah, suse found the device ok, but just didn't want to connect to my network.
[09:23] <faizan_> when i try removing stuff like xmms or gnome games from my machine, it says that ubuntu-desktop must be uninstalled as well.. wht does this mean???
[09:23] <monkievox> y'all: i've got some kind of broadcom intel 2200
[09:23] <faizan_> monkie: do you have a dell
[09:23] <insomnd> how can i make the gnome main menu transparent like the panel? it just stays white
[09:23] <monkievox> faizan: hp dv1420
[09:24] <linux_n00b_e> Anyonw know how to get the trashcan to appear on the desktop?
[09:24] <faizan_> okay
[09:24] <faizan_> i thought i had intel for the longest time
[09:24] <faizan_> but then turned out i had broadcom
[09:24] <faizan_> and as soon as i figured that out my wireless worked in a snao
[09:24] <faizan_> snap*
[09:25] <faizan_> so make sure ur sure of what u have
[09:25] <faizan_> and then use ndiswrapper
[09:25] <jack_> faizan er...a snap as in how?
[09:25] <faizan_> should work fine
[09:25] <jack_> faizan argggk!!!
[09:25] <sirexas> insomnd, how you made pannel transparent?
[09:25] <jack_> faizan that 'miricle' program seems to work for everyone but me
[09:25] <faizan_> jack: what does it say?
[09:25] <jack_> er
[09:26] <jack_> faizan i use three or four different commands, and they all work fine
[09:26] <jack_> faizan but when i use ndiswrapper -l
[09:26] <insomnd> sirexas, properties of panel, then backgrounf, then enabled transparency
[09:26] <jack_> (where it should list the working drivers / hardware) it just lists the driver with "driver error!" displayed
[09:26] <faizan_> do you know exactly what wireless card u've gon on ur system
[09:26] <insomnd> sirexas, but the applications menu is still opaque, same with the icons
[09:26] <linux_n00b_e> anyone know how to get the trashcon to appear on the desktop?
[09:26] <linux_n00b_e> *trashcan
[09:26] <jack_> er invaild driver
[09:27] <ardchoille> linux_n00b_e: gconf-editor
[09:27] <monkievox> y'all: whoa. nice lag there. yeah, ubuntu is the same with the wifi. it thinks it's there, but it won't connect. :(
[09:27] <linux_n00b_e> What's that?
[09:27] <linux_n00b_e> And I have KDE
[09:27] <faizan_> invalid driver
[09:27] <faizan_> then maybe u are using the wrong drivers like i did for a while
[09:27] <jack_> yeah, but i am pretty sure it is the correct one
[09:27] <jack_> hmmm, where would you search for them?
[09:27] <ardchoille> linux_n00b_e: sorry, I thought you meant gnome
[09:27] <faizan_> i went on to the dell website and downloaded it off there
[09:28] <jack_> and how did you discover what your hardware was?
[09:28] <sirexas> insomnd, thanks, those icons must bu like gif images with tranparent background too
[09:28] <jack_> because i use the command lspci
[09:28] <faizan_> do u have a notebook??
[09:29] <giloth> hello everyone! :)
[09:29] <linux_n00b_e> Anybody using KDE know how to get the trashcan to appear on the desktop?
[09:29] <monkievox> faizan: i'm just going witt whataver default install is telling me right now.  back with suse i tried digging around ... downloading drivers and using ndiswrapper ... couldn't get it working on suse. i guess i'll try the same with ubuntu :)
[09:29] <giloth> linux_n00b_e, i know how to on gnome
[09:29] <giloth> might be similar
[09:29] <linux_n00b_e> hello giloth
[09:29] <linux_n00b_e> How did you do it?
[09:29] <jack_> faizan : it's an IBM made computer, 900mhz from a number of years ago, it's from the time when it came prel-loaded with windows ME
[09:29] <jack_> *shudder*
[09:29] <faizan_> haha
[09:29] <faizan_> okay
[09:29] <giloth> in gnome anyway, you click on Applications > System Tools > Configuation Editor
[09:29] <linux_n00b_e> lol @ jack_
[09:29] <faizan_> mine came preloaded with xo
[09:29] <faizan_> xp
[09:30] <jack_> XP is a "working" OS
[09:30] <faizan_> but i threw the cd out the window the first day and installed ubuntu
[09:30] <jack_> ME is just a picture of an operating system taped to the screen
[09:30] <giloth> expand apps > nautilus > and click on desktop
[09:30] <faizan_> yea well if you dont mind all the crashes and insecurity
[09:30] <linux_n00b_e> lol@ faizan_
[09:30] <giloth> and enable trash_can_visable
[09:30] <faizan_> and if you dont hate microsoft like i do
[09:30] <giloth> tell me if it works for you :)
[09:30] <linux_n00b_e> Let me see if KDE has something similar....
[09:31] <linux_n00b_e> thanks giloth
[09:31] <giloth> np - hope it works
[09:31] <ardchoille> linux_n00b_e: it might be in kcontrol
[09:31] <jack_> faizan notice my use of quotes around "working"
[09:31] <ardchoille> in the "Appearance" section
[09:31] <sethk> giloth, I don't hate microsoft, as long as I don't have to use their stuff.
[09:31] <jack_> :P
[09:31] <faizan_> haha i did
[09:31] <giloth> sethk, didn't say you did :p
[09:31] <insomnd> jack_, xp is not really an os
[09:32] <faizan_> sethk i hate microsoft cause its causing a lot of damage to the computing world
[09:32] <insomnd> jack_, more like a really big bloated program
[09:32] <jack_> hahaha yes exactly
[09:32] <faizan_> but fear not, google will do to microsoft what microsoft did to ibm
[09:32] <faizan_> haha
[09:32] <faizan_> lol
[09:32] <jack_> insomnd it's like a dinosaur strapped with cool tech equipment
[09:32] <sethk> faizan, someone will, eventually, but not google
[09:32] <jack_> no matter how fast it's mp3 player is, it's still so dumb it has a brain in it's tail
[09:32] <faizan_> well im ready to place all my money on google
[09:33] <sethk> faizan, and if google by some chance does, I'll just change my nick   :)
[09:33] <giloth> i'd like a google os - i'd always know where my files were
[09:33] <ardchoille> lol
[09:33] <faizan_> google is in a better position to cause tht damage than any other corporate or person in history
[09:33] <monkievox> you really think google would try their hands at an os?
[09:33] <test> hello
[09:33] <giloth> why not? they've done about everything else so far
[09:33] <faizan_> i think they are working at it
[09:33] <faizan_> why else do you think microsoft is so freaked out
[09:34] <monkievox> MS is freaked because they can't get any damn good engineers cuz google steals them!
[09:34] <Kadumatalata> hello
[09:34] <faizan_> they just settled their lawsuit against sun cause they need to concentrate on the competition with google
[09:34] <insomnd> peace love and happiness... To John Lennon
[09:34] <monkievox> MS is more freaked about linux/mac than google, i rekon
[09:34] <ardchoille> M$ is freaked out because their perfect little world is falling apart around them and there's nothing they can do about it.
[09:34] <giloth> haha
[09:34] <faizan_> haha
[09:34] <faizan_> see
[09:34] <faizan_> google is whats making microsofts fears come true
[09:35] <monkievox> MS is freaked because NOBODY LOVES THEM ANYMORE :)
[09:35] <Madpilot> ardchoille: they can throw chairs ;)
[09:35] <ardchoille> Madpilot: lol
[09:35] <monkievox> they're not the golden child they were in the 80s
[09:35] <faizan_> anyone heard about google endorsing openoffice
[09:35] <nailbiter> faizan_: They're funding OpenOffice development, yes
[09:35] <faizan_> thats the kinda stuff that scares microsoft
[09:35] <Fivestar> 
[09:35] <nailbiter> faizan_: They're also funding a whole pile of other open source projects (via their Summer of Code program)
[09:35] <monkievox> ah yes, but that's not OS stuff
[09:35] <faizan_> cause when openoffice has the word google anywhere near it
[09:36] <faizan_> its gonna be bigger than it ever could
[09:36] <monkievox> i agree with that
[09:36] <jack_> well it's the first step though, right?
[09:36] <jack_> anyways
[09:36] <monkievox> put a good brand name on openoffice, then people will start adopting it like gangbusters
[09:36] <faizan_> i personally think that google's working towards a web based os
[09:36] <giloth> hey, has anyone else had ati issues? (dumb question) i've tried the guide on the forums and read through the discussion, but when the drivers are running and i start up gnome, it seems like the gamma and/or brightness are in crazymode... anyone else experienced this? also, i did a info on it and it said the correct drivers were working (in otherwords, did not say mesa)
[09:36] <redeye420> every one person that uses open office takes 200$ from bill gaytes kids :P
[09:36] <jack_> where would i look for the .inf files for my wireless card?
[09:36] <giloth> i hate the openoffice names, they are too bland
[09:36] <jack_> all i seem to get is the installer EXE o_O
[09:37] <nailbiter> OpenOffice is probably much too difficult to turn into an Ajax/Web 2.0 application; I'm willing to bet that Google will instead buy out startups working on web-only office suites sometime soon
[09:37] <Strike> Here's the trick:  Somebody needs to track down some terrorists, and explain to them how great microsoft is because its the symbol of capitolism in this country.  Would be amusing to count the hours until the boom
[09:37] <ishit_> i tried to open audacity but got an error sayin could not initialize due to error in i/o device
[09:37] <faizan_> sweet
[09:37] <faizan_> no
[09:37] <faizan_> i think
[09:37] <Strike> though i know thats a little sadistic
[09:37] <faizan_> they'll integrate it
[09:37] <monkievox> it would be lame to put an office app into a web app that you host like a service
[09:37] <redeye420> lol @ strike!!
[09:37] <faizan_> well
[09:37] <faizan_> microsofts doing it
[09:37] <nailbiter> And I don't think Microsoft isn't in any danger. :)  They've got over $40B in cash reserves.  That's more than enough to buy many third world nations outright
[09:37] <faizan_> monkie havent you heard of microsoft live
[09:38] <monkievox> money doesn't make you survive, just last long, drag out your downfall
[09:38] <ishit_> anyone wat to put as input and output device to run audacity
[09:38] <giloth> yeah, can you imagine.. ms buys a country and names it Windows Land
[09:38] <Strike> - the spelling error ofc.
[09:38] <jack_> hjahaha
[09:38] <nailbiter> Microsoft could cease all operations and sales as of tomorrow, keep everyone on the payroll for the next ten years and still not come close to making a dent in that $40B warchest.  That's how much of a buffer they have against defeat
[09:38] <faizan_> if anything is an indication of msfts fear of google, its windows live
[09:38] <faizan_> but nailbiter
[09:39] <Madpilot> everyone - #ubuntu-offtopic exists for discussion of MS and other oddities...
[09:39] <giloth> anyone have some kind of an answer to my question about?
[09:39] <giloth> above*
[09:39] <monkievox> ms is gonna die regardless what they try to do
[09:39] <faizan_> its not going too well for them at the moment
[09:39] <fangorious> how do I change the background color displayed behind the splash screen after logging in (gnome/gdm)?
[09:39] <monkievox> just gonna be slow
[09:39] <faizan_> google's digging them slowly and steadily
[09:39] <ishit_> helllloooo any help with audacity i/o devices
[09:39] <faizan_> anyways
[09:39] <monkievox> Madpilot: sorry so much offtopic nonsense
[09:39] <ardchoille> nailbiter: all the money in the world won't help you if your users start switching from you rproduct to the competition.. and I see people switching to Linux everyday
[09:39] <faizan_> i gtg
[09:39] <faizan_> pecac out people
[09:39] <jack_> okays
[09:40] <CarinArr> giloth, what was the question
[09:40] <giloth> ardchoille, and switching back to windows a lot of the times sadly...
[09:40] <giloth> hey, has anyone else had ati issues? (dumb question) i've tried the guide on the forums and read through the discussion, but when the drivers are running and i start up gnome, it seems like the gamma and/or brightness are in crazymode... anyone else experienced this? also, i did a info on it and it said the correct drivers were working (in otherwords, did not say mesa)
[09:40] <Kadumatalata> jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[09:40] <nailbiter> monkievox: It could take a very very long time. SGI, for example, crashed in the late 90s and never really recovered. But they're still around, and will likely be around for decades because of long-term support contracts with government agencies
[09:40] <CarinArr> what drivers? nvidia/ati?
[09:40] <CarinArr> oh sorry
[09:40] <CarinArr> ati
[09:40] <CarinArr> heh
[09:40] <giloth> did you not see the ati part ;)
[09:40] <CarinArr> sorry.. dunno bout ati:/
[09:40] <ardchoille> lol
[09:41] <giloth> i've seen posts in the forums about the same issue, but nobody has seemed to figure it out... or atleast post the solution
[09:43] <fangorious> anyone? change the background color displayed after logging in with gdm but before your desktop is loaded (behind the splash screen)?
[09:44] <chaumurky> that's gdm setup
[09:44] <chaumurky> System->Administration->Login Screen Setup
[09:45] <fangorious> cool, thanks
[09:45] <monkievox> all right y'all.  thanks fer yer help and lively conversation.  good night!
[09:45] <chaumurky> GTK+ Greeter Tab
[09:45] <ardchoille> This is one great channel. Who started this channel?
[09:45] <jack_> ME
[09:45] <jack_> jk
[09:45] <sethk> ardchoille, microsoft   :)
[09:45] <chaumurky> yeah, jack
[09:46] <jack_> chaumurky lo..
[09:46] <ardchoille> Did Seveas start this channel?
[09:46] <nalioth> ardchoille: jdub did
[09:46] <ardchoille> nalioth: well, I'll have to thank jdub
[09:46] <ardchoille> :)
[09:47] <chaumurky> a channel's nothing without it's guests...
[09:47] <ardchoille> well, that's true
[09:47] <chaumurky> you're welcom... LOL!!
[09:47] <nalioth> ardchoille: why not thank mark shuttlesworth, also for allowing us Ubuntu ?
[09:47] <ardchoille> lol
[09:47] <Strike> woot - just got the about chan from a 45 week idle user, though dunno if anybody'll use it or not
[09:47] <Strike> Ubuntu is a godsend :-)
[09:47] <chaumurky> or Ian Murdock
[09:47] <ardchoille> nalioth: Great idea
[09:48] <ardchoille> Ian Murdock?
[09:48] <ardchoille> oh, right.
[09:48] <Madpilot> Ian Murdock started Debian
[09:48] <ardchoille> yeah
[09:48] <chaumurky> or Linus...
[09:48] <chaumurky> ;-)
[09:49] <ardchoille> geez.. my xmas card list just grew exponentially
[09:49] <ardchoille> lol
[09:49] <chaumurky> ecards are free
[09:49] <chaumurky> well, some are...
[09:49] <ardchoille> and Madpilot, for the wiki?
[09:49] <CarinArr> although, none of us would have these problems if it weren't for those people
[09:49] <CarinArr> ;)
[09:50] <CarinArr> not considering the alternative obviously
[09:50] <chaumurky> Yeah, I'd be a MS Zommmbieeeee,,,,,
[09:56] <Technobabble> can anyone point me the direction i might look to understand how services are managed in ubuntu?
[09:56] <Madpilot> ardchoille: sorry, what about the wiki?
[09:57] <ardchoille> Madpilot: Aren't you the maintainer?
[09:57] <Madpilot> Dog, no.
[09:57] <ardchoille> oh, my bad
[09:57] <giloth> wow - fixed that ati problem pretty quick... viewed the bugzilla and it was listed... it only happens when you have the tv-out connector hooked up when you boot into it
[09:58] <Madpilot> I just do bits and pieces on the wiki, there's a lot of us ;)
[09:58] <ardchoille> ah, ok
[09:58] <ardchoille> well, the community that supports Ubuntu is simply amazing.. seriously.
[09:59] <giloth> ardchoille, no kidding :p
[09:59] <giloth> ardchoille, i went to the forums and saw around 800 online when i first started using it.. my jaw dropped
[09:59] <ardchoille> :)
[10:00] <emanuelez_> hello... is there a way to swich from ubuntu to kubuntu?
[10:00] <Technobabble> can any of you guys point me to the part of the manual that describes how services are handled?
[10:00] <Technobabble> i can't seem to find it
[10:00] <giloth> mind if i ask a question here that i originally asked in the forums without a response?
[10:01] <giloth> i'll take that as a yes'm ;)
[10:01] <giloth> I was curious if it's possible to take the 'New Login' shortcut under Applications > System Tools > New Login and make it an option under the Log Out screen.
[10:03] <blue-frog> Technobabble, what do u mean by how services are handled?
[10:03] <Technobabble> well, on my fedora box, i type "services list"
[10:03] <Technobabble> and i see a list of running services and such
[10:04] <kestas> why are USB devices addressed as SCSI in *nix?
[10:04] <Technobabble> and my "ls /etc/rc.d/init.d" shows the names of the services
[10:04] <Technobabble> but apparently ubuntu doesn't handle it the same way
[10:04] <Madpilot> Technobabble: try "top"
[10:04] <kestas> makes no sense
[10:05] <Madpilot> kestas: some legacy thing; my BIOS lumps SCSI & SATA together, I noticed
[10:05] <blue-frog> Technobabble, that's a redhat thing indeed, services are under /etc/init.d, u also have system > administration > services, and applications > system tools > system monitor
[10:06] <kestas> Madpilot, but linux doesnt use the BIOS right? I dont get it
[10:06] <cornjob> i prefer regular xterm to gnome-terminal; however, when I go "System | Preferences | Preferred Applications | Terminal", and change from Gnome-Terminal to Xterm, it still brings up a Gnome Term?
[10:06] <Technobabble> blue-frog, tyvm
[10:06] <Technobabble> for some reason applications > system tools > system monitor doesn't accept my root password
[10:06] <cornjob> it don't do this on redhat/fedora/centos or in FreeBSD gnome!
[10:06] <Technobabble> but i'll work around it
[10:07] <Madpilot> kestas: it's all legacy stuff, that's all I meant
[10:07] <blue-frog> Technobabble, does any other apps launch when u click on them? (such as synaptic..)
[10:07] <Technobabble> nope
[10:07] <blue-frog> Technobabble, the password asked is your password
[10:07] <Madpilot> Technobabble: use your actual user pw
[10:07] <Technobabble> oh
[10:08] <Madpilot> Technobabble: Ubuntu uses sudo
[10:08] <Madpilot> !tell Technobabble about sudo
[10:08] <Technobabble> i've already got sudo up here
[10:08] <Technobabble> i ran into it a bunch in the manual, so i looked it up
[10:11] <wolverian> hm, dapper nm-applet crashes on me.
[10:13] <Decadent> i've downloaded a movie but its in .ratdvd format how can i see that movie??
[10:13] <desplesda> Decadent:  go to a terminal and run "file your-movie.ratdvd"
[10:13] <Technobabble> never heard of a ratdvd
[10:14] <Technobabble> is there a way to display services-admin from the CLI?
[10:15] <desplesda> Technobabble:  what, with no X server running?
[10:15] <Technobabble> yeah
[10:15] <Technobabble> like when you do a server install
[10:15] <desplesda> hmm
[10:15] <n1nj4-TaNten> hi
[10:15] <n1nj4-TaNten> how do u check if your net card does work
[10:15] <n1nj4-TaNten> if it has been initialized
[10:15] <n1nj4-TaNten> ?
[10:16] <[Jonne] > decadent: i think ratdvd is a windows only thing
[10:16] <blue-frog> Technobabble, like ps x or it anything eles you look for?
[10:16] <Myrtti> ping  127.0.0.1
[10:16] <Decadent> im afraid you are right
[10:16] <[Jonne] > http://www.ratdvd.dk/
[10:16] <Madpilot> n1nj4-TaNten: Systems menu -> Admin -> Networking (when it asks for a password, use your own user pw)
[10:17] <Decadent> ok thanks [Jonne] 
[10:17] <n1nj4-TaNten> okay not so fast, i only have debian console installed
[10:17] <n1nj4-TaNten> so i have to type something
[10:17] <n1nj4-TaNten> i can login as root or as me
[10:18] <Technobabble> thanks guys
[10:18] <Technobabble> it's just not the same as redhat, apparently
[10:18] <Technobabble> but that's okay
[10:19] <blue-frog> Technobabble, it takes not long to get used to it, coming from fedora took me not long to get accustomed. ubuntu sticks more to what u find in linux manuals the redhat so inb the end it becomes easier
[10:19] <Gorgonzola> could someone who solved the problem of Azureus no longer working after upgrade from Hoary to Breezy please have a quick look at this thread http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=554467
[10:19] <Technobabble> blue-frog, i'm glad, i'll definately stick to this for a while
[10:19] <n1nj4-TaNten> Madpilot suggestions?
[10:22] <Madpilot> n1nj4-TaNten: sorry, I'm pretty much a desktop user...
[10:22] <n1nj4-TaNten> hehe okay
[10:24] <QRZ> n1nj4-TaNten:  Do you have an entry for it in /etc/network/interfaces?
[10:25] <Madpilot> n1nj4-TaNten: doesn't "ifconfig" work/
[10:26] <ale3hs> hello guys, does anyone know a dc++ client for Ubuntu??
[10:26] <Technobabble> ubuntu doesn't use rpms?
[10:27] <Madpilot> Technobabble: deb
[10:27] <blue-frog> Technobabble, no apt-get
[10:27] <Technobabble> that means in order to get something, i have to add a new repository, correct?
[10:27] <Hatred> Technobabble rpm stands for redhat package manager... ubuntu is based on debian..
[10:27] <Technobabble> gotcha
[10:28] <Madpilot> Technobabble: maybe, it depends on what you want
[10:28] <Madpilot> !tell Technobabble about sourcees
[10:28] <Madpilot> !tell Technobabble about sources
[10:28] <Technobabble> Synergy from synergy2.sourceforge.net
[10:28] <Madpilot> ... spelling counts...
[10:28] <blue-frog> Technobabble, form the "normal" ubuntu repository u get much more than from the rpm repo. and u don't have to fiddle to know if you're going to use dag, or fresh or news repo
[10:28] <nichevo> can anyone tell me how to get SU???
[10:28] <ale3hs> a DC++ client somebody plz??
[10:29] <dpupp> could someone help me find out why my usb drive will no longer auto mount? i cant find it under /media/ nor under /mnt/
[10:29] <Hatred> if you want to install rpms in ubuntu, i believe there's a package called "alien".. solving the dependency issues is left as an exercise for the administrator ;)
[10:29] <nichevo> can anyone tell me how to get SU??? I can't edit a file
[10:29] <Madpilot> nichevo: use sudo and your own user pw
[10:29] <Technobabble> no thanks
[10:29] <Technobabble> i hate dependency hell
[10:29] <nichevo> thanks
[10:30] <polk_> sudo passwd root
[10:30] <Myrtti> I wouldn't recommend that
[10:30] <polk_> then enter your 1st accounts password and type in the new password.
[10:30] <adrian__> Hi, everyone!
[10:30] <dpupp> i booted into windows to copy some files over to my external usb drive, and when i booted back into linux, the drive is not automounting. Could someone help me trouble shoot this? i dont know where to start.
[10:31] <blue-frog> nichevo, sudo vi file
[10:31] <frogzoo> dpupp: pastebin /etc/fstab & the result from 'mount'
[10:31] <polk_> dpupp, did you try taking out the USB drive and plugging it in?
[10:31] <adrian__> newbee here: can anyone help me with a printer driver for a Canon i250?
[10:31] <Madpilot> !printer
[10:31] <ubotu> hmm... printer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[10:32] <dpupp> BRB.
[10:32] <Madpilot> adrian__: see ubotu above ^^^
[10:32] <frogzoo> dpupp: nm - its the usb giving you trouble - not an fstab problem
[10:33] <ale3hs> guys ..how install DC++ ??
[10:33] <Technobabble> blue-frog, may i /msg you real quick?
[10:33] <blue-frog> ok
[10:33] <_Rappy_> how much space should I give the partition mounting boot?
[10:33] <dpupp> frogzoo, http://pastebin.com/453772
[10:33] <polk_> 100 megabytes max,
[10:34] <adrian__> I've tried the one on the NZ canon site but it errored on compiling
[10:34] <ekoi> hi. i've apt-get install'ed openbox. how do i switch it to the default window manager instead of gnome?
[10:34] <Technobabble> uh oh, i have to register first
[10:34] <frogzoo> _Rappy_: if youre only putting the kernel on it, ie /boot - 1 meg is plenty
[10:34] <dpupp> polk_ yes i did unplug and replug.
[10:34] <blue-frog> Technobabble, go on
[10:34] <Technobabble> well i'm going to use synergy, which may be found at http://synergy2.sourceforge.net
[10:34] <adrian__> anyone who is actually using this particular printer?
[10:34] <ulinskie>  wanna ask where I can edit this PKG_CONFIG_PATH
[10:34] <dpupp> polk_, i tried in different ports......
[10:34] <Technobabble> and the binaries are for redhat, and windows
[10:34] <jack_> EGADS
[10:34] <polk_> did you have the USB plugged in when you booted
[10:34] <Technobabble> so i would have to compile from source?
[10:35] <jack_> the burned CDs from my macs with the esential files do not show up at all!
[10:35] <jack_> after one and a regular CD did work
[10:35] <android_> does anyone know how to change charset?
[10:35] <jack_> WTF is going on?
[10:35] <dpupp> polk_, yes.  also, i plug it into my laptoop and it automounts... but not on my desktop
[10:35] <_Rappy_> frogzoo: talk newbie to me please :)
[10:35] <frogzoo> _Rappy_: if youre a newby - best off to let the install allocate space 4 u
[10:35] <blue-frog> Technobabble, enable universe and multiverse repo in synaptic, synergy is in there
[10:36] <polk_> do you have more then one usb port? If so try plugging in the USB device in a different connector.
[10:36] <_Rappy_> frogzoo: but how I am supposed to learn then :)
[10:36] <Technobabble> okay, i think i know how to do that already
[10:36] <dpupp> should i reboot without usb in?
[10:36] <blue-frog> Technobabble, sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:36] <frogzoo> dpupp: give it a go - sure
[10:36] <dpupp> brb.
[10:37] <frogzoo> _Rappy_: its better to get a feel for how the different file systems are used first imo
[10:37] <blue-frog> Technobabble, deb http://blah-blah.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse
[10:38] <frogzoo> _Rappy_: then you have a better understanding how much space is needed
[10:38] <_Rappy_> well, a du -m boot/on this machine tells me it's using about 46 megs
[10:38] <coz> hello all
[10:39] <coz> is anyone here familiar with layla24?
[10:39] <_Rappy_> but I wonder if it may ned more in the future
[10:39] <blue-frog> Technobabble, the sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get install synergy
[10:39] <Technobabble> for some reason sudo never accepts any passwords
[10:39] <frogzoo> _Rappy_: yar, my 1meg was a bit lame - 100meg sounds a better idea
[10:40] <Technobabble> my current users password, or root
[10:40] <Technobabble> i even do an sudo -u root <whatever>
[10:40] <Technobabble> it asks for a password, then denies
[10:40] <Badm4n> hello .... why my iptables rule always restart ? i have already type iptables-save ( ubuntu 5.10 )
[10:40] <blue-frog> Technobabble, did u do a server install or normal install
[10:40] <Technobabble> normal
[10:40] <blue-frog> Technobabble, id
[10:40] <Technobabble> i'm in konsole
[10:41] <blue-frog> Technobabble, what   id   sends u back?
[10:41] <Technobabble> uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)
[10:41] <Madpilot> Technobabble: by default, whenever Ubuntu asks for a pw, it's using sudo and wants your regular users pw
[10:41] <Badm4n> hello .... why my iptables rule always restart ? i have already type iptables-save ( ubuntu 5.10 )
[10:41] <blue-frog> Technobabble, then no need for sudo
[10:41] <ale3hs> hello people, I want to install dc++, please somebody tell me how??
[10:42] <Technobabble> k
[10:42] <blue-frog> Technobabble, though sudo should work as well normally as root is in the sudoers file...
[10:43] <blue-frog> Technobabble, oh but yes, if root has no password it won't work
[10:43] <nailbiter> Badm4n: That's because Ubuntu doesn't supply a /etc/init.d/iptables to restore your rules at boot time
[10:43] <Technobabble> root has one, that's for sure
[10:43] <Technobabble> i wasn't logged in as root, so that was strange
[10:43] <Technobabble> but i restarted X and it id's correctly now
[10:43] <nailbiter> ale3hs: A DC++ hub or a client?
[10:44] <blue-frog> Technobabble, hum uight have been in recovery mode?
[10:44] <ale3hs> nailbiter, client
[10:44] <dpupp> no dice.  i rebooted without the drive on the usb port, i pluged it back in, and it still wont mount.
[10:44] <blue-frog> Technobabble, hum u might have been in recovery mode?
[10:44] <dpupp> im sure the drive is working ok as my other machines can read it.
[10:44] <Badm4n> nailbiter, so i must del /etc/inint.d/iptables ?
[10:44] <nailbiter> ale3hs: Try 'dcgui'?  The interface is _horrible_, but it works reasonably well
[10:45] <nailbiter> Badm4n: No, Ubuntu doesn't supply one, so you have to steal a copy from Debian  :)
[10:45] <dpupp> i look under media and see only cdrom0 and cdrom1, no XSDRIVE as usually was there.
[10:45] <ale3hs> nailbiter, I will try, but is this the only choice I got??
[10:45] <Badm4n> anyone have it ?
[10:45] <Badm4n> please
[10:45] <nailbiter> ale3hs: Do a 'apt-cache search "direct connect"' to see what DC++ clients are available. :)
[10:45] <nailbiter> Badm4n: Well, you can have my copy. ;-) DCC?
[10:46] <Badm4n> hmmm
[10:46] <Badm4n> better if you sent to mail ?
[10:46] <Badm4n> herowar@gmail.com
[10:46] <ale3hs> nailbiter, thanx, I installed dcgui to check it first
[10:46] <polk_> sudo apt-get install slrn E: Couldn't find package slrn What do I have to do to get apt-get to retreive packages from the Internet? URL?
[10:47] <nailbiter> Badm4n: Alright
[10:47] <Badm4n> thx b4
[10:47] <_Rappy_> ok, /boot is set to 100MB /swap to 1GB now how much for / ? (I'll allocate the remaining to /home(?))
[10:47] <dpupp> back to the forums i go :)
[10:47] <Badm4n> nailbiter,
[10:47] <nailbiter> polk_: It's in the 'universe' archive. Add that to your list of sources first
[10:47] <Badm4n> can you sent me too about blocking the port
[10:47] <Badm4n> so my client only can use 80 and 443
[10:47] <hume> anyone knows how to convert pdf-files to text, to make them transferable to a palm?
[10:48] <polk_> where do I add that at?
[10:48] <nailbiter> Badm4n: Do you just need port-blocking? Or do you have a whole lot of other custom rules as well?
[10:48] <nailbiter> Badm4n: If it's just port-blocking, install 'ipmasq'. ;-) It's a lot easier that way
[10:48] <chorse> hume, poppler-utils and xpdf-utils have a pdf2text tool
[10:49] <nailbiter> polk_: You can either edit /etc/apt/sources.list or you can run "Add programs" in your Gnome menu
[10:49] <nailbiter> polk_: I mean "Add Applications". :)
[10:49] <polk_> ok nailbiter TKS
[10:50] <Badm4n> nailbiter, i need iptables rule like http://www.sat-c.net/server/iptables.txt and i need block some port and allow port 80 and 443 only
[10:50] <nailbiter> Badm4n: 'ipmasq' sets all of that up automatically. :) It also throws in some anti-spoofing rules too
[10:50] <adrian__> hey guys! HEEEEEEEELP! Can't find a compatible driver for a canon i250. Is there anyone out there who is using this particular printer or who knows someone who has solved this?
[10:51] <nailbiter> adrian__: Try linuxprinting.org first--they have a big compatibility database
[10:52] <adrian__> been there. But I'l look again...
[10:52] <frogzoo> adrian__: try something that looks close - usually it will work
[10:52] <adrian__> who knows...
[10:52] <adrian__> I've tried about 15 of them so far...,
[10:52] <adrian__> I've tried compiling the one on the NZ canon site
[10:52] <adrian__> it errored
[10:53] <frogzoo> adrian__: you should just be able to go into configure printer & pick something close - what doesnt work?
[10:53] <adrian__> i've tried the BJCs
[10:54] <adrian__> the Ss
[10:54] <adrian__> aso
[10:54] <frogzoo> adrian__: any ixxx ?
[10:54] <adrian__> there is none listed
[10:54] <W_Nyctea_> hi, is Scribus only for linux and mac? no windows version?
[10:54] <Madpilot> W_Nyctea_: so far, yes
[10:54] <adrian__> there is just a compatibility list on wiki support
[10:54] <frogzoo> adrian__: very new printer? or very old?
[10:55] <W_Nyctea_> madpilot: thanks, coz i'm thinking to join the art team in the future
[10:55] <bautt> what is the right place to provide module load arguments? (for example I need to run "/sbin/modprobe usbserial vendor=0x0af0 product=0x6300" every time before I insert my UMTS card)
[10:55] <adrian__> and it lists i455, 550, 850 860. None of them work for mine
[10:55] <adrian__> frog: I guess it's too old... I don't know...
[10:56] <frogzoo> bautt:  you want to put them under, iirc /etc/modprobe/DRIVERNAME - check man modprobe maybe?
[10:56] <Madpilot> later, all - need sleep
[10:56] <nmsa_work> hi, someone using moinmoin? my site is up, but when I save a file is slow, any changes take a few good minutes, but preview is quick. it's python powered and I wonder is can tweak a bit; anyone had this issue?
[10:56] <rem_> Which one should I use if I want a NFS server  nfs-kernel-server or nfs-user-server ... ?
[10:57] <nailbiter> Badm4n: Put 'usbserial vendor=0x0af0 product=0x6300' in /etc/modules. It'll force the module to load very early on at boot time
[10:57] <bautt> frogzoo, you mean /etc/modprobe.d/DRIVERNAME
[10:57] <nailbiter> bautt: Put 'usbserial vendor=0x0af0 product=0x6300' in /etc/modules. It'll force the module to load very early on at boot time
[10:57] <Mirza___> sorry DC
[10:57] <nailbiter> Badm4n: Sorry, wrong guy  :P)
[10:57] <frogzoo> bautt: yup, looks good
[10:57] <Mirza___> nailbiter Badm4n: 'ipmasq' sets all of that up automatically. :) It also throws in some anti-spoofing rules too <--- apt-get install ipmasq ?
[10:57] <Badm4n> nailbiter Badm4n: 'ipmasq' sets all of that up automatically. :) It also throws in some anti-spoofing rules too <--- apt-get install ipmasq ?
[10:57] <rem_> whats the diff ?
[10:57] <nailbiter> Mirza___: That's right
[10:57] <Badm4nz> nailbiter, sorry i got dc
[10:58] <bautt> nailbiter, I though /etc/modules contains only module names, does it takes arguments?
[10:58] <frogzoo> adrian__: if theres source for the driver - someone's got it to work
[10:58] <Badm4nz> nailbiter, so what you suggest to me
[10:58] <nailbiter> bautt: Yes, they take arguments
[10:58] <Badm4nz> 1. i want to use sat-c.net/server/iptables.txt
[10:58] <nailbiter> Badm4nz: sudo apt-get install ipmasq
[10:58] <bautt> nailbiter, frogzoo Thanks!
[10:58] <Badm4nz> 2. port blocking only open 80 and 443
[10:58] <rem_> Which one should I use if I want a NFS server  nfs-kernel-server or nfs-user-server ... ?
[10:58] <Badm4nz> nailbiter,  allrite
[10:58] <rem_> whats the diff ?
[10:58] <Badm4nz> and about the iptables rule ?
[10:59] <hume> chorse, if I am to convert some 30 files in one folder, you know how to do this at once? batch convert?
[10:59] <Zeep> [?]  Is it possible to use the KDE Printing dialogue within OpenOffice? OOs Printing dialogue lacks some features I sometimes need. Thanks!
[10:59] <hume> Zeep, yes
[10:59] <iDo-NeedAideACPI> Hello world :p
[10:59] <hume> Zeep, in OO printer admin, choose properties for you printer and put kprinter there
[11:00] <iDo-NeedAideACPI> Does anyone can help me with a battery problem ?
[11:00] <nailbiter> Badm4nz: After installation, if you want to set which ports are blocked, copy /usr/share/doc/ipmasq/examples/stronger/A80firewall.def to /etc/ipmasq/rules and edit that file (it'll also let you choose whether you want 'stealth' blocking or not)
[11:00] <WILLEM> HMMM... PHP5-MYSQL-5.0.5-2  is compiled agains libmysqlclient12 whereas php5-mysql-5.0.5-3 is compiled against libmysqlclient14... any chance 5.0.5-3 is being implemented in breezy soon ?
[11:00] <Zeep> hume: Thank you very much!
[11:00] <frogzoo> bautt: /etc/modules is deprecated - use /etc/modprobe.d
[11:00] <hume> Zeep, should work
[11:01] <chorse> hume, find *.pdf -exec pdftotext {} \;
[11:01] <nailbiter> WILLEM: You'll either need to wait for 'dapper', a backport to breezy, or build your own copy of php5-mysql. :) The last option is what I did
[11:01] <hume> chorse, wow..:)
[11:01] <Zeep> hume: Do you know where I can find this setting in the options menu?
[11:01] <hume> chorse, thanks a lot...!!
[11:02] <hume> Zeep, no, not options, close all OO applications and look for OO printer admin i Gnome/Kde menu, under System or Settings
[11:02] <simon__k> hello
[11:02] <chorse> hume, np :)
[11:03] <WILLEM> Nailbiter: but that would probably mean I'd have to compile/install the entire php-5.0.5-3 distribution (including ALL necessary libraries) ?
[11:03] <nailbiter> WILLEM: Yup. ;-) Got some CPU cycles to spare?
[11:04] <Zeep> hume: Hm, I don't seem to have it in my K-Menu. Maybe you can tell me how the program is namend?
[11:04] <Badm4nz> nailbiter, complicated rules :D i need the simple one or may be you can teach me which part that i must edit
[11:04] <nailbiter> WILLEM: If you don't want to contaminate your production system by installing a whole pile of packages, do it in a debootstrap
[11:04] <hume> chorse, when you are not that used to shell scripting those small scripts seem like magic...would have taken me hours to look it up
[11:04] <Badm4nz> eth1= LAN GATeway
[11:04] <Badm4nz> eth1 ip = 192.168.1.254
[11:04] <Badm4nz> eth0 ip = 192.168.0.100
[11:04] <WILLEM> Nailbiter: well, the cpu-cycles aren't the problem, problem is I will be out of sync ewith the main distribution and will have to patch/compile from here on all the time (that's not why I installed ubuntu on the server)
[11:04] <hume> Zeep, oopadmin
[11:04] <Inf3ctedFx> Hello everyone
[11:05] <nailbiter> Badm4nz: ipmasq figures out which one is your gateway. Just edit the 'EXTERNAL_TCP_ALLOW' line in A80firewall.def to set which incoming ports you want to allow; everything else will be blocked
[11:05] <W_Nyctea_> hi
[11:05] <Zeep> hume: Hm, couldn't find anything named like that - are you using OO2 or OO1?
[11:06] <W_Nyctea_> guys and gals, how do you normally upgrade latest version? re-install or just patch up?
[11:06] <nailbiter> WILLEM: A custom 'php5-mysql' package can be slightly out of step with the rest of your php5 packages
[11:06] <chorse> hume, oh well, it's quite simple, the -exec just executes the action once per pdf file, {} is substituted by the file name
[11:06] <Badm4nz> nailbiter, i pv u cause its look little buzy here :D
[11:06] <Inf3ctedFx> like always I have a question lol, I'm trying to install E17, i'm runing breezy  i'm following the instructions on: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79155&highlight=e17, but when I get to the point to download enlightenment I got an error message
[11:06] <diubidone> hey all whats an rss reader for xfce?
[11:06] <WILLEM> Nailbiter: thanks for the suggestions, will try (and google on debootstrap :))
[11:07] <hume> chorse, easy when you know, you know....:)..ask me about psychology anytime, that's my major subject..:)
[11:07] <nailbiter> W_Nyctea_: Upgrading in place (with 'apt-get dist-upgrade') works most of the time. :) But it does break sometimes and can require some package-fu to fix
[11:08] <Badm4nz> EXTERNAL_TCP_ALLOW="1:80"
[11:08] <Badm4nz> EXTERNAL_TCP_ALLOW="2:443"
[11:08] <Badm4nz> nailbiter, like that ?
[11:08] <Badm4nz> create 2 line ?
[11:08] <nailbiter> Badm4nz: No, just one line. :) EXTERNAL_TCP_ALLOW="80 443"
[11:08] <chorse> hume, no need, i know that i'm a weirdo :)
[11:08] <nailbiter> Badm4nz: 1:80 means _all_ ports from 1 to 80.
[11:09] <Badm4nz> need resetart system ?
[11:09] <Badm4nz> nailbiter, i c
[11:09] <W_Nyctea_> nailbiter: tahnks for the info, it's quite hard to understand, I'm newbie. But I'll try to learn more along the way as i know now that dun actually have to re-install everytime
[11:09] <nailbiter> Badm4nz: No need. :) Just do '/etc/init.d/ipmasq start'
[11:10] <Inf3ctedFx> any idea?
[11:10] <Badm4nz> nailbiter, how to see is my rule work or not
[11:10] <nailbiter> W_Nyctea_: It's not really your fault if the upgrade breaks. :) Blame the package maintainers
[11:10] <nailbiter> Badm4nz: Get someone to try hack you?
[11:10] <Badm4nz> :p
[11:10] <diubidone> hey all whats an rss reader for xfce?
[11:10] <Badm4nz> lol
[11:10] <Badm4nz> bad idea
[11:10] <hume> chorse, you wanna know the DSM diagnosis code for that....?..:)
[11:10] <Badm4nz> nailbiter, is my iptables will work with ipmassq ?
[11:11] <W_Nyctea_> anyone of you are in the ART TEAM?
[11:11] <myke> hello
[11:11] <Gambit---> hey chaps
[11:11] <myke> i updated my firefox yeturday and now it will nit open
[11:12] <myke> i get a erro
[11:12] <ammar> hi
[11:12] <ammar> myke
[11:12] <ammar> how are you
[11:12] <myke> so if i add the file it says im missing will it fix it?
[11:12] <myke> good ammar
[11:12] <myke> you?>
[11:12] <nailbiter> Badm4nz: No, ipmasq will override any iptables rules. If you want to add your own custom rules on top of this port blocking stuff, put them in /etc/ipmasq/rules/I00chain.rul
[11:13] <ammar> this is my first time here in x-chat
[11:13] <myke> ammar well welcome and have fun
[11:13] <ammar> and also im still newe in linux
[11:13] <myke> me to
[11:13] <ammar> thank you
[11:13] <Badm4nz> nailbiter, is that will work with my sat-c.net/server/iptables.txt ?
[11:13] <myke> np
[11:13] <ammar> oh good then
[11:13] <Inf3ctedFx> does anyone have an idea how to install E17 runing breezy?
[11:13] <myke> no
[11:14] <ammar> nop
[11:14] <nailbiter> Badm4nz: You don't need those rules anymore--ipmasq already does those and more!
[11:14] <Gambit---> this is a stupid question, but how do I get the headers installed for gcc?  I installed the g++ package, but I'm not sure what to look for next
[11:15] <nailbiter> Badm4nz: The '-j MASQUERADE' line was supposed to turn on masquerading (or "Internet Connection Sharing", as Apple and Microsoft call it). 'ipmasq' does this by default, so you don't need that anymore
[11:15] <Badm4nz> i c
[11:15] <nailbiter> Gambit---: gcc is just the compiler. If you mean the C library headers needed for building programs, they're in 'libc6-dev'.
[11:15] <Gambit---> nailbiter, right, strange, ok
[11:16] <nailbiter> Gambit---: I'd recommend installing the "build-essential" virtual package to pull in all the base packages needed to build stuff (like 'make' and 'g++')
[11:16] <Gambit---> yeah, heh, that'd be nice
[11:16] <Gambit---> thanks for the reference nailbiter :)
[11:17] <Badm4nz> nailbiter, so ... my iptables rule will back everytime i restart ?
[11:17] <hume> Zeep, i run both
[11:17] <Gambit---> still getting used to the package system :)
[11:17] <nailbiter> Badm4nz: Yes, ipmasq will run at startup by default. If you want to turn this off (or back on), run 'dpkg-reconfigure -plow ipmasq'
[11:17] <bungle> hi all
[11:19] <LoPMX> morning
[11:19] <jack_> i hate computers
[11:19] <jack_> goodbye
[11:19] <jack_> and goodnight
[11:19] <aeon17x> O_O
[11:19] <Badm4nz> nailbiter,   so my iptables prob has been solved ? my iptables that i put at /etc/ipmasq/rules/I00chain.rul will start automatically
[11:20] <nailbiter> Badm4nz: Don't put that iptables.txt file in I00chain.rul!
[11:20] <nailbiter> Badm4nz: You'll screw up everything
[11:20] <Badm4nz> so ?
[11:20] <hume> is there an easy way to create a html-page that shows the content of a folder? would need that for plucker to find all files in a folder
[11:20] <Badm4nz> with my iptables.txt
[11:20] <nailbiter> Badm4nz: I told you, you don't need iptables.txt anymore!  ipmasq does everything already
[11:20] <Badm4nz> what i should put at /etc/ipmasq/rules/I00chain.rul
[11:20] <hume> shows = links to
[11:20] <Badm4nz> oh ic
[11:21] <Badm4nz> well i'll testing
[11:21] <Badm4nz> by restart
[11:21] <Badm4nz> hope can meet you soon :p
[11:21] <nailbiter> Badm4nz: Good luck. :)
[11:21] <Fujitsu> Good luck.
[11:21] <nailbiter> hume: With which webserver? Apache?
[11:22] <Fujitsu> He will hopefully not need luck...
[11:22] <hume> nailbiter, yes
[11:22] <nailbiter> hume: Apache can automatically generate a file listing if 'index.html' is missing. Just add the 'Options +Index' directive to your <Location> or <VirtualHost> block
[11:22] <dookie> can anyone help me out, i'm having trouble getting ubuntu to boot up
[11:23] <hume> nailbiter, in httpd.conf?
[11:23] <Fujitsu> dookie, I can help.
[11:23] <nailbiter> hume: Is this Apache 2.x?
[11:23] <polk_> I received this from dmesg command,what does this mean? [4301054.269000]  APIC error on CPU0: 40(40)
[11:24] <ulinskie> how can I run mms? I have already installed libmms in my system but it does not work in totem?
[11:24] <hume> nailbiter, no, apache 1 i think
[11:24] <nailbiter> hume: In that case, httpd.conf is the right place. ;-)
[11:24] <dookie> cool thanks a lot, whenever i try to start ubuntu it hangs on "starting hotplug subsystems" and when i try under recover mode it gives me errors like kernel panic not syncing fatal exception in interrupt or attempted to kill init
[11:25] <vbgunz> !firefox
[11:25] <ubotu> vbgunz: Are you smoking crack?
[11:25] <vbgunz> !crack?
[11:25] <ubotu> The primary cause of people asking me the wrong things.
[11:26] <dookie> i can mess around in my bios to turn off my pci video card and it skips "starting hotplug subsystems" but i'd much rather use my video card than integrated video
[11:26] <nailbiter> dookie: That sounds like the kernel's hanging when loading a device driver
[11:26] <polk_> !airmarshall
[11:26] <ubotu> polk_: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[11:26] <vbgunz> Whos got the link to firefox 1.5 on the wiki? I am searching the wiki and don't see it :(
[11:26] <nailbiter> vbgunz: Firefox 1.5rc3 is in dapper right not, but there's no backport to breezy yet
[11:26] <Fujitsu> FirefoxNewVersion
[11:26] <vbgunz> !FirefoxNewVersion
[11:26] <ubotu> vbgunz: Not a clue
[11:26] <Fujitsu> vbgunz, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:27] <linx_> hey i got a noob question for yall.... when i start up my comp i have to enable my wireless connection every time is there a way to avoid this?
[11:27] <vbgunz> got it, Fujitsu!
[11:27] <vbgunz> Fujitsu: thank you!
[11:27] <Fujitsu> Always happy to help, vbgunz.
[11:27] <polk_> 1.5 is buggy
[11:27] <Fujitsu> polk_, not really. What bugs are these?
[11:27] <dookie> and i've tried different video cards too, i have a geforce fx 5200 and ati radeon 9200, same error messages with either one
[11:29] <Badm4n> nailbiter, thx
[11:29] <Badm4n> it's work
[11:29] <Badm4n> btw
[11:29] <Badm4n> can you help me 1 more thing nailbiter
[11:29] <myke> hello
[11:29] <linx_> hey i got a noob question for yall.... when i start up my comp i have to enable my wireless connection every time is there a way to avoid this?
[11:29] <polk_> I don't know Fujitsu
[11:29] <Badm4n> can i install something like no-ip.com for my dynamic ip here ?
[11:29] <myke> is there a way to pull a file from the ubuntu updates without useing synaptic or apt-get?
[11:29] <Fujitsu> polk_, then how can you say it is buggy?
[11:30] <raghu> myke, altitude
[11:30] <chorse> Badm4n, just install "no-ip"
[11:30] <dookie> i've been through various howtos in the forums to set up my video drivers, but nothing seems to work
[11:30] <myke> what is that
[11:30] <myke> ?
[11:30] <Badm4n> apt-get install no-ip ?
[11:30] <nailbiter> Badm4n: Ubuntu has a client for dyndns.org and zoneedit.com that might work also for no-ip.org. It's in the "ddclient" package.
[11:30] <myke> i am trying to update my stuff and synaptic eill not get a file
[11:30] <myke> says its not there
[11:30] <myke> or something
[11:30] <YukiIkyuta> Fujitsu, why don't you eat chicken?
[11:30] <Badm4n> so ? what should i type ?
[11:31] <myke> goes striaght to fial
[11:31] <myke> fail
[11:31] <myke> *
[11:31] <Badm4n> apt-get install no-ip ?
[11:31] <raghu> myke do apt-get then
[11:31] <nailbiter> Badm4n: It's in the "ddclient" package.  apt-get install ddclient
[11:31] <myke> so i wnet and got the file from another debian source installed it and now it still wants to update it
[11:31] <linx_> hey i got a noob question for yall.... when i start up my comp i have to enable my wireless connection every time is there a way to avoid this?
[11:32] <Badm4n> nailbiter,  shoul i register first at dyndns first ? or i can register from ubuntu apt-get
[11:32] <Badm4n> ?
[11:32] <raghu> linx_ add to startup scripts..using update.rcd
[11:32] <myke> brb
[11:32] <nailbiter> Badm4n: You have to register at dyndns.org or zoneedit.com first, yes. The package can't organize your account for you automatically. :)
[11:33] <QRZ> linx_:  In your /etc/network/interfaces file, you can add the line, "auto ethx" to the end of the entry for your wireless interface.
[11:33] <Badm4n> which one you can prefer to me zoneedit or dydns ?
[11:33] <linx_> alright thx
[11:34] <nailbiter> Badm4n: If you don't already have a domain, use dyndns.org. You'll be allocated one like 'badm4n.dyndns.org'. If you own a domain, try zoneedit.
[11:34] <Badm4n> ok thx
[11:35] <Badm4n> nailbiter,  can i have your email address ?? ( query ) so if i have prob i can sent you mail to help me and tech me :D
[11:35] <linx_> QRZ: it is already on wlan0
[11:36] <QRZ> linx_:  Is there a line that says, "auto wlan0" then?
[11:36] <nailbiter> Badm4n: Just ask here. :) There are plenty of smarter people who can answer if I'm not around
[11:36] <linx_> ya
[11:36] <rem_> Which one should I use if I want a NFS server  nfs-kernel-server or nfs-user-server ... ?
[11:36] <rem_> whats the diff ?
[11:37] <QRZ> linx_:  Then it should come up automatically on boot.  Check your system logs for clues as to why it's not.
[11:37] <nailbiter> rem_: One runs in user-space and the other is a kernel module. :) The kernel-space NFS server is faster, and is actually being maintained
[11:38] <rem_> the first line i figured..-.thanx for the anser :)
[11:38] <linx_> QRZ:alright thx
[11:38] <Badm4n> root@tequila:/home/she# ddclient
[11:38] <Badm4n> WARNING:  unable to determine IP address
[11:38] <Badm4n> root@tequila:/home/she#
[11:38] <Badm4n> ] 
[11:38] <Badm4n> why is that
[11:38] <BockBilbo> m
[11:38] <nailbiter> Badm4n: You need to edit /etc/ddclient.conf
[11:38] <BockBilbo> this is so weird
[11:39] <BockBilbo> the postfix-tls package has dissapeared from the repositories
[11:39] <BockBilbo> anyone has any idea?
[11:39] <Badm4n> nailbiter, shoul i delete ?
[11:39] <rem_> ..since its a Kernel module do I have to reboot after updating it .. ?
[11:39] <rem_> aynone used ddclient trhough a proxy server with authentification ... ?
[11:39] <nailbiter> BockBilbo: 'postfix-tls' has been a dummy package for some time (the TLS managed was moved into the main 'postfix' package after crypto export laws were relaxed in the US)
[11:40] <nailbiter> rem_: No, the /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server script will load the 'nfsd' kernel module if necessary
[11:40] <rem_> ok thx
[11:40] <BockBilbo> nailbiter, but.. anyway.. see im having a problem with tls in postfix
[11:40] <nailbiter> rem_: In any case, the 'nfsd' kernel module actually ships in the kernel package; the nfs-kernel-server package just contains a bunch of scripts to kickstart it
[11:40] <BockBilbo> i get an error saying somehing abot the tls library
[11:40] <rem_> oh ok
[11:40] <BockBilbo> *about
[11:41] <nailbiter> BockBilbo: What's the error message?
[11:41] <BockBilbo> shouldi paste it here? its 3 lines long
[11:41] <YukiIkyuta> !tell BockBilbo about pastebin
[11:41] <nailbiter> Badm4n: Delete?
[11:41] <BockBilbo> YukiIkyuta, i know what pastebin is
[11:41] <BockBilbo> ;)
[11:41] <YukiIkyuta> :)
[11:41] <Fujitsu> :)
[11:41] <YukiIkyuta> Fujitsu :)
[11:41] <Badm4n> yes
[11:42] <Fujitsu> :)
[11:42] <Fujitsu> :)
[11:42] <nailbiter> Badm4n: When you installed the 'ddclient' package, you would have been asked a series of questions, like what provider you're using, and which interface you're going through
[11:42] <Fujitsu> ;)
[11:42] <YukiIkyuta> Heheheh.
[11:42] <Fujitsu> >:-(
[11:42] <YukiIkyuta> Fujitsu, stop that!
[11:42] <nailbiter> Badm4n: After that, the ddclient will start in the background. You shouldn't need to invoke it manually
[11:42] <YukiIkyuta> BockBilbo, you can probably paste here, 3 lines isn't too much.
[11:42] <Badm4n> i have already
[11:42] <YukiIkyuta> I had some problems with Postfix + TLS recently, actually.
[11:42] <Badm4n> but
[11:42] <Badm4n> the first one
[11:42] <YukiIkyuta> I really should set that up again ...
[11:42] <Badm4n> is a mistake
[11:42] <Badm4n> can i remove and then re install ?
[11:42] <BockBilbo> YukiIkyuta, thats why I asked... but im gonna paste it in pastebin
[11:42] <nailbiter> Badm4n: So run 'dpkg-reconfigure ddclient' to reconfigure the package
[11:43] <YukiIkyuta> BockBilbo, OK.
[11:43] <BockBilbo> YukiIkyuta, nailbiter http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/453805
[11:43] <dookie> well if ubuntu hangs on "starting hotplug subsystems" what can i try messing with to get it working?
[11:43] <Badm4n> allrite
[11:43] <Badm4n> thx
[11:43] <BockBilbo> thats the error logs
[11:44] <Badm4n> nailbiter, what is the answer of :
[11:44] <Badm4n> Enter the interface which is used for using dynamic DNS service.  
[11:44] <Badm4n>                                                                                                
[11:44] <Badm4n>                              Interface used for dynamic DNS service
[11:44] <YukiIkyuta> Sounds like your TLS library doesn't understand what language is being spoken ...
[11:44] <afd_> hi! I kind of screwed my firefox while trying to upgrade to firefox 1.5. My  configured apt repository doesn't work (is offline or something), where can I find a list of repositories and a sources.list file?
[11:44] <BockBilbo> YukiIkyuta, nailbiter i get the same problem with imaps and pop3s with courier
[11:45] <BockBilbo> YukiIkyuta, ... it used to understand it a day ago..
[11:45] <YukiIkyuta> BockBilbo, weird.. I'm going to try setting up Postfix right now, so we'll see what happens for me .. I'm not too good with it, so I don't really know what's going on.
[11:45] <BockBilbo> Ive tried to ask at #postfix but they are like death
[11:45] <alberto> ciao
[11:45] <YukiIkyuta> o_O!!!
[11:45] <nailbiter> Badm4n: Which interface is your gateway on? eth0? Use that.
[11:45] <BockBilbo> YukiIkyuta, i mean they dont talk
[11:45] <BockBilbo> xD
[11:46] <Badm4n> eth0
[11:46] <Badm4n> ic
[11:46] <YukiIkyuta> Aha!
[11:46] <Badm4n> Enable this if ddclient should be run every time a ppp connection is established.  
[11:46] <Badm4n>                                                                                                        
[11:46] <Badm4n>                     Run ddclient on ppp connect
[11:46] <Badm4n> should i answer yes ?
[11:46] <YukiIkyuta> It's a really weird error, I'll say that much.
[11:46] <wezzer> yes you should
[11:47] <ben_underscore> afd_, http://www.ubuntuguide.org/
[11:47] <nailbiter> Badm4n: It doesn't really matter since you don't seem to be using pppoe. But just say yes anyway
[11:47] <BockBilbo> YukiIkyuta, you mean my error is wird?... it is..:S
[11:47] <Badm4n> root@tequila:/home/she# ddclient
[11:47] <Badm4n> WARNING:  skipping update of kemayoran.mine.ru from <nothing> to 192.168.2.100.
[11:47] <Badm4n> WARNING:   last updated <never> but last attempt on Fri Dec  9 00:46:18 2005 failed.
[11:47] <Badm4n> WARNING:   Wait at least 5 minutes between update attempts.
[11:48] <Badm4n> is that mean it's run ?
[11:48] <Myrtti> ben_underscore: not the best of advice that ubuntuguide, you know
[11:48] <nailbiter> Badm4n: No, it means that it tried to update your address, but failed. Have you actually signed up at mine.ru?
[11:48] <Badm4n> yes
[11:48] <Badm4n> you can browse that
[11:49] <peterretief> where do i get instructions to set up mysql 5
[11:49] <nailbiter> Badm4n: Do these mine.ru people actually support ddclient?
[11:49] <peterretief> on breezy
[11:49] <Badm4n> ?
[11:50] <nailbiter> Badm4n: ddclient won't work with every Dynamic DNS service out there. Some are compatible, some are not. Are you sure this mine.ru services works with ddclient?
[11:50] <BockBilbo> nalbiter doesnt he have to use dhclient?
[11:51] <Badm4n> dunno :) i get that domain from dydns
[11:51] <BockBilbo> mm never mind
[11:51] <Badm4n> when i register
[11:51] <afd_> ben_underscore, thx
[11:51] <ben_underscore> Myrtti, no?
[11:51] <Fujitsu> Wait a sec.
[11:51] <Myrtti> !tell ben_underscore about ubuntuguide
[11:51] <Fujitsu> Badm4n, trying to set your DynDNS IP to your network-internal IP is _not_ going to work!
[11:52] <Renski> lol
[11:52] <coz> hello all
[11:52] <Fujitsu> Hi coz.
[11:52] <coz> is there a desktop capture utility, other than istanbul, that works
[11:52] <ben_underscore> Myrtti, ah. thanks.
[11:52] <Myrtti> np
[11:52] <Badm4n> dont understant .... nailbiter said that i must regist first
[11:53] <ben_underscore> afd_, i've been told you should check out http://help.ubuntu.com/ instead for the official doco
[11:53] <Hoxzer> http://bash.org/?349567
[11:53] <YukiIkyuta> Odd, I thought Istanbul was a city.
[11:53] <coz> cute it is also a desktop capture utility that sucks
[11:53] <BockBilbo> YukiIkyuta, are you trying that out?
[11:53] <coz> it doesn
[11:54] <oskude> coz, sec, i had one, forgot the name... sec... googling... :)
[11:54] <YukiIkyuta> BockBilbo, I'm still setting it up, my situation is kinda tricky.
[11:54] <Badm4n> root@tequila:/home/she# ddclient
[11:54] <Badm4n> root@tequila:/home/she#
[11:54] <Badm4n> how about that
[11:54] <coz> OK how to get osgg vorbis video to play?
[11:54] <Badm4n> that mean it's work ?
[11:55] <coz> ogg vorbis
[11:55] <ben_underscore> where did they get the name ogg vorbis anyway?
[11:55] <Azmodan> I'd like to extract strings from a Windows .exe file, what program do I need ?
[11:55] <YukiIkyuta> Azmodan, strings!
[11:55] <oskude> coz, ogg vorbis video is propably "theora"
[11:55] <YukiIkyuta> Azmodan, try "strings filename | less"
[11:55] <ben_underscore> Azmodan, use strings, or do "od -c"
[11:55] <Azmodan> ok, thanks
[11:55] <coz> ok how to get theora to play
[11:56] <Jowi> hello everyone
[11:56] <Fujitsu> Hi Jowi.
[11:56] <coz> hello
[11:57] <Jowi> quiet today?
[11:57] <ben_underscore> hi jowi
[11:57] <oskude> coz, "apt-cache search theora" gave like "gstreamer0.8-theora" and "libtheora0"
[11:57] <YukiIkyuta> Fujitsu, isn't it past your bedtime? :)
[11:57] <coz> let me check
[11:57] <Fujitsu> OMG, YukiIkyuta, you are right.
[11:57] <YukiIkyuta> Heheheh. XD
[11:57] <antisocial_boris> is there a command i can use to remove directories and their contents at the same time?
[11:57] <YukiIkyuta> It's getting closer!!
[11:58] <ben_underscore> antisocial_boris, rm -R <dir>
[11:58] <Fujitsu> rm -r <directory>, antisocial_boris.
[11:58] <Jowi> antisocial_boris: rm -rf foldername
[11:58] <oskude> coz, i made some videos with "istanbul" but cant remember with what i played them... :)
[11:58] <Seveas> !seen cafuego
[11:58] <ubotu> cafuego is currently on #ubuntu
[11:58] <YukiIkyuta> antisocial_boris, using `-rf' is dangerous, so be careful.
[11:58] <Jowi> antisocial_boris: "f" is force
[11:59] <YukiIkyuta> ie. it plows through anything and everything without confirmation.
[11:59] <Fujitsu> Brb.
[11:59] <YukiIkyuta> kk
[12:00] <antisocial_boris> but it should be fine if i know whats in there and that i know i dont want it?
[12:00] <ben_underscore> antisocial_boris, yes
[12:00] <J_P> hi all
[12:01] <YukiIkyuta> Hi J_P.
[12:01] <oskude> coz, huh, atlast i found it :) http://xvidcap.sourceforge.net/
[12:01] <j813> hi guys, anyone remember the link on how to enable ntfs vfat? thanks
[12:01] <J_P> people, ubuntu have python-vlc in anyone repository ? i try universe and multiverse, but not find :-(
[12:02] <_native_> hydrogen is so unusably slow even with nice -20
[12:02] <oskude> coz, but sadly it seems to be a dead project :(
[12:02] <_native_> it sucks! how can i work with this?!!
[12:02] <Jowi> J_P: nope, doesnt look like it
[12:03] <_native_> whats another drum sequencer?
[12:03] <J_P> Jowi: In backport ubuntu not have too ?
[12:03] <Jowi> J_P: that i don't know.
[12:03] <_native_> time for google ;] 
[12:03] <J_P> Jowi: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[12:03] <J_P> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ breezy-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[12:03] <J_P>  not work here..
[12:03] <J_P> I have error in apg-te update
[12:04] <coz> thanks oskude  will try that it sounds more like what I want rather than that dumb istanbul
[12:05] <zool2005> good morning
[12:06] <Jowi> midi in general is dead slow especially timidity. I could play midis just fine in DOS on my 486-DX-100 but not on my 1ghz machine in linux. Anyone know what's up? Can it be that the freepats are too large?
[12:06] <walkingice> zool2005: Good Morning :)
[12:06] <Jowi> 'morning zool2005
[12:06] <wezzer> ello
[12:06] <zool2005> could someone tell me how to change the runlevel please, I do init3 and it doesn't seem to kill X
[12:06] <chorse> Jowi, timidity is a software synthesizer.
[12:07] <Jowi> zool2005: telinit is what you want
[12:07] <walkingice> zool2005:  set /etc/inittab??
[12:07] <Jowi> chorse: yeah...?
[12:07] <zool2005> I presume you do CTRL+ALT+F? first
[12:08] <Jowi> ah, coffee is ready
[12:08] <chorse> Jowi, aye. for hardware midi you need a wavetable file and a tool like pmidi
[12:09] <zool2005> I ask only because I need to kill X to install nvidia drivers
[12:09] <Jowi> chorse: ah, thanks for the tip. will try it
[12:09] <chorse> Jowi, but well, timidity sounds much better than default hardware synthesizers
[12:10] <chorse> if you just want listening midi music, convert it via timidity into wave audio
[12:11] <blue-frog> zool2005, install ubuntu nvidia driver might be better than the run pachage from nvidia
[12:11] <Jowi> chorse: yeah, i used to have a soundblaster awe-32 (isa bus) that had a wavetable in it. perfect sound. so that must be the difference.
[12:12] <sijmen> Hi there
[12:12] <sijmen> Maybe a bit of lame question, but how to disable X11 starting up automatically?
[12:13] <chorse> Jowi, sure. and hardware midi uses permanently 8 MB of RAM for storing the wavetable
[12:13] <sijmen> Maybe a bit of lame question, but how to disable X11 starting up automatically?
[12:13] <Jowi> chorse: hmmm, pmidi can not find any alsa ports...
[12:14] <blue-frog> sijmen, system>administrattion>services gdm
[12:14] <chorse> Jowi, you need some kind of -synth module in the kernel
[12:14] <Jowi> chorse: crap. ok. i compiled my own recently. must've forgotten it
[12:14] <bimberi> sijmen: sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[12:14] <Jowi> chorse: thanks
[12:14] <chorse> Jowi, np
[12:15] <BockBilbo> YukiIkyuta, apart from that issue, i have two questions related to local users and their mail...
[12:15] <sijmen> Ah, thanks
[12:15] <sijmen> Sorry if that message got through twice, I forgot to identify
[12:15] <humandoing> "Error loading Operating System"... yum :|
[12:15] <coz> hello again
[12:16] <coz>  thanks for the xvidcap sugestion however it does not work
[12:16] <oskude> coz, yeah, there where some issues... but cant remember what... from where did you install ? or did you compiled it ?
[12:16] <YukiIkyuta|brb> BockBilbo, I'll be back later.
[12:16] <Jowi> humandoing: a vic20 can *not* be booted with grub ;-)
[12:16] <BockBilbo> ok
[12:17] <coz> I got the deb package from xvidcap homepage
[12:17] <oskude> coz, sec, ill test...
[12:17] <zool2005> apparently I have an NVIDIA module installed "linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-amd64-generic" but the xorg.conf file shows the "nv" driver is being used, can anyone help please
[12:17] <humandoing> Jowi - but what about my TI-85?
[12:17] <zool2005> I have a Geforce FX5200
[12:17] <coz> could be my system but the app is outdated 2004 last release
[12:17] <Jowi> humandoing: perhaps. only tried with TI-89/A. "munchman" is the best game ever.
[12:18] <oskude> coz, jup, the xvidcap project seems dead... but i had it working (atleast under hoary)
[12:18] <coz> It says cannot find libpng.so.2 the site recomends that it be linked but the solution he gave did not work either
[12:18] <Jowi> http://www.videogamehouse.net/munchman.html
[12:18] <coz> just type in the browser xvidcap homepage
[12:19] <chorse> zool2005, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[12:19] <oskude> coz, hmm, heres a newer source http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=81535&package_id=83441&release_id=293341
[12:19] <coz> unfortunate because a good desktop capture is needed at least for me
[12:19] <coz>  I use camtasia studio on windows, it's great need the same on ubuntu
[12:19] <humandoing> Jowi: hah!... maybe you can answer a quick question, I'm quite pleased I backed up all my data :P, but anyways, I managed to get rid of the "Error loading operating system" via XP recovery console (fixboot / fixmbr) now I get an NTLDR error :|
[12:19] <coz> let me look
[12:20] <oskude> coz, jup, i allways wanted a good screen (video) capture tool for linux too...
[12:20] <humandoing> Jowi: I'm thinking I might try to install Ubuntu _first_ then WinXP... and can I use partition magic or something to load a bootloader for the two?
[12:20] <bimberi> !find libpng.so.2
[12:20] <humandoing> any ideas?
[12:20] <sijmen> One more question if you would be so kind: is it possible to autologin as a given user? (in console, that is)
[12:20] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'libpng.so.2' (1 shown): (/usr/lib/libpng.so.2) in universe/libs/libpng2.
[12:20] <humandoing> I feel like I'm being violated by a locomotive :P
[12:21] <coz> let me try this version maybe it will work be back
[12:21] <bimberi> coz: install libpng2???
[12:21] <Jowi> humandoing: i successfully installed XP first and ubuntu after. installed grub on the mbr.
[12:21] <oskude> coz, im compiling the new source too :)
[12:22] <Jowi> humandoing: maybe your grub setup is a bit wierd...
[12:22] <Jowi> !grub
[12:22] <ubotu> I heard grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[12:22] <Jowi> that might help
[12:23] <Jowi> humandoing: haven't use pqmagic in ages and haven't tried its bootmanager i'm afraid
[12:23] <humandoing> Jowi: that's what I did...
[12:23] <humandoing> I let it overwrite my MBR, and it proceeded to... um... hurt me.
[12:23] <humandoing> I've done this 19 other times, with other Linuxes, and no problems... blech...
[12:24] <Jowi> humandoing: yeah, i never had that problem. installed breezy on a laptop dualbooted with winxp the other day. can not help you there i'm afraid.
[12:24] <humandoing> I'll take a look at that "Recovering..." link
[12:24] <humandoing> but dinner first...
[12:24] <humandoing> thnx
[12:25] <_Rappy_> I'm partitioning my disk. So far I 4 partitions, but now the Partition manager says tahtthe last 14.7 GB is "Unusable" What's the problem?
[12:26] <chorse> _Rappy_, delete the 4th partition and create a logical one
[12:26] <Gambit-> hey chaps
[12:26] <chorse> _Rappy_, that's a dos partition table limitation
[12:26] <_Rappy_> so it's a limitation on no of Primary disks?
[12:26] <Gambit-> once I install the dhcp server, will there be a gui widget for configuration, or do I need to edit the conf files by hand?
[12:26] <chorse> _Rappy_, aye. 3 primary + 1 extended with logicals
[12:26] <Jowi> _Rappy_: you can only have 4 primary disks
[12:26] <sanjay> Rappy: yes. 4 primary or 3 primary + unlimited logical on the 4th ..
[12:27] <Gambit-> via the symantic package manager, that is
[12:27] <xxenon> I have a server with domain name (mydomain.com). What should I install to have my server reply to DNS requests like xxx.mydomain.com ?
[12:28] <YukiIkyuta> xxenon, bind!
[12:28] <YukiIkyuta> named*!
[12:28] <xxenon> lemme see..
[12:28] <YukiIkyuta> It takes a bit of setup, though.
[12:28] <xxenon> I see...
[12:28] <_Rappy_> so what partition would you make logical (I want /boot  /  /urs /home and /swap) (in addition I got one with WinXP)
[12:28] <YukiIkyuta> You may like to Google a tutorial on setting up DNS with bind/named.
[12:29] <chaumurky>  _Rappy_: make /home logical.
[12:30] <YukiIkyuta> Fujitsu, you there?
[12:31] <Jowi> _Rappy_: /boot, / and optionally a windows partition should be primary. the rest logical.
[12:31] <xxenon> YukiIkyuta - found some doc...hehe...Ill just forget it :)
[12:32] <phimic> hi all
[12:32] <Jowi> _Rappy_: /boot must be primary since it will have the bootable flag i guess.
[12:32] <phimic> where can i find winefish
[12:32] <phimic> i use breezy but cannot find this application
[12:32] <sanjay> does anyone know why Ubuntu always  resets my DNS server -- even if i enter it manually in resolv.conf -- whenever i reconnect, it changes my DNS servers and i have to go in and re-enter ..
[12:33] <YukiIkyuta> xxenon, I got it working successfully with Fujitsu's help, but yes, it is quite a complex beast!
[12:33] <odair> Hi !
[12:33] <Jowi> hello phimic, odair
[12:34] <phimic> hi Jowi
[12:34] <odair> Ol eu sou do Brasil,
[12:34] <YukiIkyuta> sanjay, Ubuntu doesn't do it - it's copying in the results from your DHCP server.
[12:34] <sanjay> Yuki: right - and i have stupid gits for an ISP -- is there anyway i can override that and tell it never to mess with my resolv.conf ?
[12:35] <YukiIkyuta> sanjay, I believe so - try opening network-setup..
[12:35] <Kaiser_Sleeps> sanjay: set it read only
[12:35] <YukiIkyuta> then going to the `DNS' tab.
[12:35] <YukiIkyuta> Or you could do that.
[12:35] <YukiIkyuta> It might complain, however.
[12:36] <odair> hi !
[12:36] <YukiIkyuta> Do we have a Brazilian channel?
[12:36] <Jowi> !br
[12:36] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.
[12:36] <sanjay> setting resolv.conf to read-only might be fun : ) - lets try it and see what happens -- ya i can change it at the DNS tab, but it always changes it back, then i have to re-change every time i connect - not a problem, just a pain ..
[12:37] <odair> ok
[12:37] <bimberi> sanjay: iirc setting it read-only doesn't work - "sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf" will set it immutable (-i to undo)
[12:38] <Gambit-> hm I need a cheap (lightweight) DNS server that acts as a proxy or cache for my LAN, suggestions?
[12:39] <YukiIkyuta> Gambit-, DNS server; bind/named
[12:39] <Gambit-> well sure
[12:39] <Gambit-> just thought that would be a bit heavyweight
[12:39] <YukiIkyuta> I have it set up as a DNS server for my LAN, and it seems fine. ^^
[12:39] <sanjay> bimberi: thanks.
[12:39] <Gambit-> okie
[12:39] <YukiIkyuta> Just find yourself a good tutorial (not too hard!), and you'll have it up in no time.
[12:39] <bimberi> sanjay: np :)
[12:39] <DrBair> Gambit-:  could try dnsmasq for dns server
[12:40] <DrBair> Gambit-:  its a bit lacking in higher end features though
[12:40] <Gambit-> Does it do cacheing too?  I don't really want to fuck with it at the moment, so if it's a fairly blind install, then I'm happy.
[12:40] <DrBair> Gambit-:  it caches the addresses, yes
[12:40] <Gambit-> that's probably good enough for me... is it in the pkg system?
[12:40] <BockBilbo> anyone here knows what does smmsp@localhost  refer to?
[12:41] <BockBilbo>  i mean, which program uses that localhost email name?
[12:41] <DrBair> Gambit-:  I would suspect, its quite popular. haven't looked though.  I use it on my gentoo server
[12:41] <Gambit-> hm ok, I'll dig into it
[12:42] <Gambit-> here's another question, the symantic project manager just started popping up an error on startup that it can't find the archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages file... do I have to recreate it somehow?
[12:42] <Fujoor> hey guys, this may seem as a silly question, but is it possible to install ubuntu without the gui?
[12:43] <Fujoor> and still have the apt-get functions?
[12:43] <YukiIkyuta> Gambit-, try `sudo apt-get update'
[12:43] <Jowi> Fujoor: yep, choose "server" install
[12:43] <YukiIkyuta> Fujoor, of course! A minimal or server install will do that.
[12:43] <Fujoor> can one choose to minimalize the install or do i have to do that afterwards?
[12:43] <Gambit-> YukiIkyuta, just out of curiosity, any ways I could have figured that out myself? :)
[12:44] <YukiIkyuta> Gambit-, I think it says down the bottom, "have you run apt-get update?", or something.
[12:44] <YukiIkyuta> Fujoor, no question is silly. ^^
[12:44] <Jowi> Fujoor: you install as server, and then add X or whatever you want after that. of course you can also install everything and then remove what you don't need but i would think you have to spend more time with that then just doing the server install
[12:44] <Millenniumgroup> Guys does @ubuntu utilize a shipping order known as "mail fast"?
[12:45] <Fujoor> oh, but the server install is minimal from the beginning, right?
[12:45] <Jowi> Fujoor: correct
[12:45] <Fujoor> but i still get all the drivers?
[12:45] <Gambit-> Yuki, hm heh
[12:46] <Jowi> Fujoor: yes. they are modules most of the time.
[12:46] <bimberi> Fujoor: yep, you get all the hardware detection goodness :)
[12:46] <Jowi> Fujoor: but the X drivers will not be installed of course
[12:46] <ubun-newbie> hi how do i create a socket
[12:46] <Fujoor> lovely, and then i can apt-get all the goodies like lynx and irssi without installing the gui?
[12:46] <Fujoor> or the wm or whatever its called
[12:47] <YukiIkyuta> Fujitsu, yup.
[12:47] <clem_yeats> ubun-newbie : for xmas ? :)
[12:47] <ubun-newbie> yep (:
[12:47] <clem_yeats> lol, in which language ?
[12:47] <YukiIkyuta> ubun-newbie, that's a vague question - what do you mean?
[12:48] <ubun-newbie> i want to create a socket to programm a socket
[12:48] <YukiIkyuta> ubun-newbie, that question is a bit out of the scope of this chatroom. I can refer you to a network programming tutorial, if you like.
[12:48] <Fujoor> lovely, cheers guys
[12:48] <Jowi> np Fujoor
[12:48] <ubun-newbie> which channel
[12:48] <Fujoor> ill comeback when i have gone further with the installment :)
[12:48] <YukiIkyuta> ubun-newbie, not sure if any does, really. Would you like the tutorial?
[12:48] <YukiIkyuta> Fujoor, good luck!
[12:49] <ubun-newbie> yes give me link to tutorial
[12:49] <YukiIkyuta> ubun-newbie, http://jcatki.no-ip.org/beej/
[12:49] <YukiIkyuta> Hope this helps.
[12:49] <oskude> anyone know how i temporarly use gcc-3.4 (instead of gcc-4.0) ?
[12:49] <crimsun> export CC=gcc-3.4
[12:49] <YukiIkyuta> oskude, sure. Install gcc-3.4
[12:49] <YukiIkyuta> Then as crimsun says.
[12:49] <clem_yeats> oskuke : in order to install a wifi card is it ?
[12:49] <oskude> thnx
[12:50] <oskude> clem_yeats, nope, just testing something... (xvidcap-1.1.4pre2)
[12:50] <clem_yeats> oskuke : oki... I had the same problem with a wifi driver..
[12:51] <YukiIkyuta> All my wifi cards have worked out of the box. o_O
[12:51] <clem_yeats> lucky you :) I'm afraid I really can't say the same :))
[12:51] <YukiIkyuta> Damn!
[12:52] <clem_yeats> and not just because they were OEM (no box..)
[12:52] <_Rappy_> I'm trying the expert installation on breezy. And now it asks me to choose a kernel. linux-386, linux-image-386 and linux-image-2.6.12.9-386
[12:52] <_Rappy_> which one should I use
[12:53] <YukiIkyuta> _Rappy_, any! They're linked.
[12:53] <YukiIkyuta> (the same thing - linux-image-2.6.12.9-386 is the safest choice, but I'm quite sure they're all the asme)
[12:54] <psychorav> hi to everyone :)
[12:54] <TaZzZ> HI!!
[12:55] <Jowi> hi psychorav
[12:55] <YukiIkyuta> Hiya.
[12:55] <psychorav> i've some questions to the acpi .... because it doesn't work well on my laptop
[12:56] <nelposto> hello people... it seems like my 'make' command is broke :'(
[12:56] <nelposto> it really hurts my feelings
[12:56] <nelposto> you can see above i'm crying if you don't beleive me
[12:57] <YukiIkyuta> nelposto, damn!
[12:57] <YukiIkyuta> What happened?
[12:57] <Jowi> nelposto: i do believe you. now now - don't be like that. tell us all what happened.
[12:57] <nelposto> *sniff* well ok...
[12:57] <Fujoor> oh, i have another not ubuntu related question, but does anyone know if pine works with gmail?
[12:57] <YukiIkyuta> psychorav, have you updated your laptop's BIOS? That fixed *everything* ACPI/power related for me first time.
[12:57] <YukiIkyuta> Fujoor, .. I wouldn't think so. o__O
[12:57] <Fujoor> any x based email client that does?
[12:58] <Jowi> Fujoor: thunderbird, evolution
[12:58] <psychorav> YukiIkyuta: i just read an article about how you can simulate a new dsdt table to the kernel and i tried it, but it crashed my kernel
[12:58] <nelposto> YukiIkyuta, Jowi : when I try to make, i get this "/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 11: gcc-3.4: command not found
[12:58] <nelposto> /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 12: gcc-3.4: command not found
[12:58] <nelposto>   HOSTCC  scripts/basic/fixdep
[12:58] <nelposto> /bin/sh: gcc-3.4: command not found
[12:58] <nelposto> make[1] : *** [scripts/basic/fixdep]  Error 127
[12:58] <nelposto> make: *** [scripts_basic]  Error 2
[12:58] <Jowi> Fujoor: but you need to enable the pop3 in gmail preferences
[12:58] <nelposto> "
[12:58] <YukiIkyuta> Fujoor, to be precise, for PINE/MUTT etc. to see mail from GMail, you need to set up fetchmail.
[12:58] <Fujoor> jowi: but do they work without any window managers?
[12:58] <YukiIkyuta> nelposto, "sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4"
[12:58] <kandinski> skype is good but non-free
[12:58] <Jowi> Fujoor: no, you need a gui for evo and tb
[12:59] <kandinski> oops, I was answering backroll
[12:59] <dragoon> skype is free
[12:59] <YukiIkyuta> Hah.
[12:59] <Fujoor> yuki: ah, so fetchmail should work in x?
[12:59] <YukiIkyuta> Fujoor, out of X!
[12:59] <nelposto> vrrooooom.. why thankyou YukiIkyuta
[12:59] <kandinski> Dragoon, not Free as in Open Source: it is gratis, not libre
[12:59] <mjr> dragoon, just as in beer; it's as proprietary as anything both software and protocolwise
[12:59] <YukiIkyuta> nelposto, vrrooom vroom!!
[12:59] <YukiIkyuta> mjr, and beerwise.
[12:59] <Chousuke> kandinski: open source doesn't equal Free
[01:00] <mjr> yes, beer too :)
[01:00] <nelposto> mwahahahahah it works I WILL TAKE OVER LINUX ALL UR BASE R BELONG TO ME
[01:00] <kandinski> Open Source Certified does
[01:00] <YukiIkyuta> nelposto, compiling a new-ish kernel?
[01:00] <neotrophy> Eeek!  For some reason, that I can't figure out, apache-ssl is serving PHP pages as files rather than evaluating them.  They work fine from normal apache2 though.  Any ideas anyone... please
[01:00] <Jowi> lol
[01:00] <kandinski> but that is another discussion
[01:00] <YukiIkyuta> YukiIkyuta, this is true, but installing an entirely new BIOS should do the trick!
[01:00] <Chousuke> kandinski: Do you mean OSI Certified?
[01:00] <kandinski> yep
[01:00] <nelposto> YukiIkyuta: trying to add suspend2 to it so i can hibernate
[01:00] <Chousuke> yeah, I guess.
[01:00] <kandinski> just as when I say Free I mean (either FSF or DFSG-free)
[01:00] <Chousuke> but you can have open source non-free software
[01:01] <kandinski> Chousuke, and free non-free software too
[01:01] <kandinski> skype is free and non-free
[01:01] <Chousuke> yeah :P
[01:01] <kandinski> I just use the meaning of words that is more useful
[01:01] <YukiIkyuta> nelposto, aha.
[01:01] <Chousuke> and then there's non-free (in a way) Free software.
[01:02] <Chousuke> I mean, if you make software A under the GPL, and distribute the source only to those who buy the binaries, the software is still Libre.
[01:03] <YukiIkyuta> Chousuke, can you do that, however?
[01:03] <Chousuke> sure. of course you may not offer the binaries to anyone but those who pay for them, because then you'd have to distribute the source to them too
[01:04] <YukiIkyuta> I mean, according to the GPL?
[01:04] <Chousuke> with GPL. the source, binaries and freedoms are bundled together.
[01:04] <YukiIkyuta> Hmm.
[01:04] <Chousuke> yes you can
[01:04] <Chousuke> you can sell the bundle
[01:04] <bimberi> isn't that what Sveasoft do?
[01:04] <Chousuke> now ->
[01:04] <Jowi> Chousuke: but wouldn't that let anyone that purchased the gpl'd software be able to spread it for free as well?
[01:05] <cafuego> Chousuke: of course, any payee can modify that source and distribute it for free.
[01:05] <cafuego> Er, payer.
[01:05] <LoPMX> hmm, how do i install java 1.5?
[01:05] <YukiIkyuta> Therein lies the problem.
[01:05] <cafuego> So whyw aste time selling it to begin with?
[01:05] <YukiIkyuta> Consider you'd only get one customer.
[01:05] <cafuego> LoPMX: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[01:05] <peterretief> i just installed breezy and get an error running ./configure for mysql 5  - configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[01:05] <peterretief> any help[
[01:05] <raghu> !java
[01:05] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[01:05] <YukiIkyuta> peterretief, sounds like your preprocessor is insane!
[01:06] <peterretief> thansk
[01:06] <cafuego> Does mysql 4.1 not do what you need it to?
[01:06] <Chousuke> Jowi: cafuego: Of course.
[01:06] <Chousuke>  (it was too early to go after all :P)
[01:06] <peterretief> the default is 4.0
[01:06] <cafuego> peterretief: Does that not do what you want it to do>?
[01:06] <peterretief> no
[01:06] <contradictoryben> peterretief: do you need to compile mysql 5.0 ... the mysql website recommends installing the binary
[01:07] <cafuego> peterretief: (4.1 IS in breezy, though)
[01:07] <contradictoryben> (and that's what i did)
[01:07] <peterretief> i would prefer 5 though
[01:07] <Chousuke> cafuego: you can sell support with your bundle
[01:07] <cafuego> Chousuke: of course.
[01:07] <Chousuke> or new features in your version of the software which no other version has.
[01:07] <peterretief> contradictoryben: what binary
[01:07] <cafuego> Chousuke: But why bother selling the bundle to begin with? Why not give it away for free, with paid support?
[01:07] <contradictoryben> peterretief: hold on i'll find the link
[01:07] <peterretief> thanks
[01:08] <Chousuke> cafuego: That is a good question.
[01:08] <Chousuke> cafuego: but reasons for that may exist.
[01:08] <cafuego> Chousuke: if your software has features others don't, and you distribute it via tyhe GPL, the others will have said version after one client redistributes it.
[01:08] <Chousuke> thus you can't say it's useless.
[01:08] <cafuego> s/version/features/
[01:08] <Chousuke> cafuego: yes, but your client would get it first.
[01:09] <cafuego> Chousuke: So you piss off your client and lose your advantage.
[01:09] <Chousuke> and it's up to the to distribute it
[01:09] <Chousuke> client
[01:09] <LoPMX> thanks
[01:09] <Jowi> Chousuke: you CAN make your own license you know. you can sell it and as a bonus provide the source. Customer can do whatever he/she likes with it except redistribute it.
[01:09] <Chousuke> Jowi: then it wouldn't be free.
[01:09] <contradictoryben> peterretief: http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/mysql/5.0.html under "Linux (non RPM package) downloads": I use the "max" version
[01:09] <Chousuke> the point was having  free software you have to pay for.
[01:10] <peterretief> contradictoryben: thanks will try
[01:10] <Chousuke> it is not impossible :)
[01:10] <Jowi> Chousuke: you can't have the cake and eat it too :-)
[01:10] <justizz> hi
[01:10] <cafuego> Chousuke: no, just kinda pointless if you use the GPL for it.
[01:10] <YukiIkyuta> Hi justizz.
[01:10] <Chousuke> cafuego: why?
[01:10] <justizz> how can i start sound server :o
[01:10] <contradictoryben> peterretief: and here's the installation guide: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/linux-rpm.html
[01:10] <bimberi> peterretief: also, cpp may not be installed by default
[01:10] <tony_> Quick question:  I installed the java plugin for firefox using Synaptic, and now if I go to a page with java it closes down firefox... anybody else hear of that before?
[01:10] <peterretief> i did go and install cpp
[01:10] <Chousuke> cafuego: Is it profitable for your clients to distribute the source?
[01:11] <contradictoryben> peterretief: oops... sorry this is the right installation guide: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/installing-binary.html
[01:11] <cafuego> Chousuke: Because the moment you sell ONE copy, the purchaser can edit and redistribute it. Why would anyone else buy from you?
[01:11] <justizz> i had to turn it off, because sounds on Americas Army didnt work
[01:11] <Xtreme984> can anyone help me???
[01:11] <bimberi> peterretief: k :)
[01:11] <YukiIkyuta> Chousuke, it's not inprofitable. xP
[01:11] <Chousuke> cafuego: and if it is, they'll appreciate their ability to do so, and probably like you for it.
[01:11] <cafuego> Chousuke: They may do it even though there is no ingherent profit. I would.
[01:11] <peterretief> bimberi: thanks :)
[01:11] <Gambit-> so all exechey guys
[01:11] <Jowi> justizz: "esd" probably
[01:11] <Gambit-> you use IPTables nowadays for NAT and such?
[01:11] <raghu> tkrag, hi toams
[01:11] <cafuego> Chousuke: But then still, you lose yourproduct.
[01:11] <raghu> tkrag, hi tomas
[01:11] <justizz> Jowi, on root terminal?
[01:11] <looksaus> wat are the most likely place and time I can meet sabdfl on irc?
[01:11] <Chousuke> cafuego: even though it could drive the company who supports it into bankruptcy?
[01:12] <Chousuke> cafuego: no you don't
[01:12] <tkrag> raghu, hello
[01:12] <Jowi> justizz: no, as the user.
[01:12] <cafuego> Chousuke: it's not my fault said company is operating on a bad business model.
[01:12] <Chousuke> cafuego: it's not a bad business model
[01:12] <justizz> "/dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[01:12] <justizz> "
[01:12] <Chousuke> give me one reason why it is.
[01:12] <tony_> could someone please walk me through troubleshooting a bad jre plugin installation?
[01:12] <cafuego> Chousuke: it is if you only make money off the PRODUCT, not the support.
[01:12] <raghu> tkrag, busy ?
[01:13] <justizz> so do that mean its on? :o
[01:13] <Chousuke> cafuego: of course.
[01:13] <YukiIkyuta> justizz, typically.
[01:13] <myke> hello
[01:13] <Chousuke> cafuego: of course you need to offer support too
[01:13] <Jowi> justizz: ps -A | grep esd
[01:13] <cafuego> Chousuke: There is no money in selling comodities, only in the support (experience!)
[01:13] <Chousuke> that's the whole point.
[01:13] <myke> is there a way i can eject a cd/dvd by pressing the button and not right clicking - eject?
[01:13] <myke> as a user
[01:13] <myke> ?
[01:13] <Chousuke> proprietary devs can't get away with selling just software either.
[01:13] <poningru> myke: no but its being worked on
[01:13] <Chousuke> they need to offer support.
[01:14] <myke> ok thnx
[01:14] <Chousuke> but now I have to go.
[01:14] <peterretief> theres money in anything that adds value
[01:14] <poningru> myke: expect it in dapper
[01:14] <myke> poningru- i could do it in slackware
[01:14] <peterretief> open source is the way
[01:14] <poningru> myke: yeah I know many distros do it
[01:14] <myke> poningru- why not in ubuntu/
[01:14] <cafuego> Chousuke: Yes, but IF the software is to be freely redistributed, why annoy a paying customer by NOT giving them added value. Why can't they instead use FREE software and BUY support?
[01:14] <myke> poningru- thats weird
[01:14] <poningru> myke: meh not that big a deal
[01:14] <poningru> I actually prefer it this way
[01:15] <poningru> cause I have many annoying cousing
[01:15] <myke> poningru- yea i know but for people trying to switch the tinyest things make them not want to switch you know
[01:15] <poningru> they keep hitting the button everything stops and cant watch the movie
[01:15] <peterretief> you dont give them free software, you install the best possible software for their needs
[01:15] <poningru> myke: true
[01:15] <myke> lol
[01:15] <poningru> so anyone actually needs help?
[01:15] <cafuego> peterretief: Yeah, but many don't want Macs.
[01:15] <tony_> YES
[01:16] <tony_> could someone please walk me through troubleshooting a bad jre plugin installation?
[01:16] <peterretief> hehe
[01:16] <poningru> tony_: whats up?
[01:16] <myke> do you where i can get the pkgs for gyach?
[01:16] <peterretief> macs not always the best solution
[01:16] <tony_> I installed the java plugin for firefox using Synaptic, and now if I go to a page with java it closes down firefox... anybody else hear of that before?
[01:16] <myke> i got them before but i had to fotmat
[01:16] <poningru> tony_: did you install java at all?
[01:16] <myke> format*
[01:16] <YukiIkyuta> myke, you can type `eject'
[01:16] <tony_> yes java is installed by default in all Ubuntu's
[01:16] <YukiIkyuta> And `eject -t' to close the tray again.
[01:16] <raghu>  /msg nickserv link <raghu> <think>
[01:16] <tony_> so saith Synaptic
[01:17] <Xtreme984> does anyone know if I need new drivers for a RaLink RT2500 wireless card on a LiveCD boot?
[01:17] <Xtreme984> (64-bit version 5.10)
[01:17] <poningru> tony_: no it wasnt
[01:17] <YukiIkyuta> Xtreme984, only one way to find out :)
[01:17] <poningru> tony_: you have to install java yourself
[01:17] <poningru> !java
[01:17] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[01:17] <tony_> k well at any rate it's installed
[01:17] <myke> yukikyuta- i know but i want to press the eject button on the cdrom "useing a laptop"
[01:17] <Xtreme984> YukiIkyuta, I'm asking because my brother can't get his network to work on Ubuntu
[01:17] <tony_> I don't remember selecting that by hand but I may have
[01:17] <poningru> tony_: I wouldnt be so sure about that can you run java programs?
[01:18] <tony_> yes
[01:18] <poningru> hmm thats weird
[01:18] <YukiIkyuta> Xtreme984, there's a list somewhere, I'll find it ..
[01:18] <tony_> I tested an app of my own earlier
[01:18] <myke> why does this pkg keep failing on me
[01:18] <Xtreme984> YukiIkyuta, thanks
[01:18] <YukiIkyuta> myke, whihc?
[01:18] <myke> when i try to update
[01:18] <poningru> tony_: oh ok
[01:18] <YukiIkyuta> which*
[01:18] <myke> libgnutls11
[01:18] <YukiIkyuta> Xtreme984, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo  ^^ for your card.
[01:18] <raghu> tkrag, can see my pvt message
[01:19] <YukiIkyuta> Though it says that 5.10 should supprot it out-of-the-box.
[01:19] <poningru> tony_: go to /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/
[01:19] <Xtreme984> YukiIkyuta, thanks
[01:19] <tony_> k
[01:19] <poningru> see if there is a /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[01:19] <YukiIkyuta> Fujoor! ^^
[01:19] <nelposto> so... a typical kernel compile should take about...
[01:19] <poningru> nelposto: depends on your computer
[01:20] <myke> i downloaded this file and installed it manually and it still doesnt want to say it is installed why is that
[01:20] <myke> ?
[01:20] <poningru> tony_: if its a different version of java obviously it will have different file area
[01:20] <YukiIkyuta> Which file? o_O
[01:20] <tony_> yeah
[01:20] <tony_> I have the blackdown jre
[01:20] <poningru> tony_: oh
[01:20] <poningru> yeah you should have said that dude
[01:21] <poningru> yeah black java is um kinda not stable plugin
[01:21] <Jowi> nelposto: 25 minutes on my 1ghz epia. but i compiled what i needed in the kernel and disabled alot of modules.
[01:21] <tony_> oic
[01:21] <tony_> ok well it was the one that came up in synaptic
[01:21] <poningru> tony_: imho the program itself isnt stable
[01:21] <tony_> I usually try those first and if they don't work then I go somewhere else
[01:21] <Jowi> nelposto: the more modules - the longer compile time
[01:21] <poningru> tony_: yeah true
[01:21] <nelposto> poningru, Jowi: thanks... ok .. so i got some warnings just now (arch/i386/kernel/apm.c:1191: warning: `pm_send_all' is deprecated (declared at include/linux/pm.h:121) ) and similar... is this bad?
[01:22] <Jowi> nelposto: nope, just a warning
[01:22] <Xtreme984> YukiIkyuta, this is gonna help a whole bunch :D
[01:22] <tony_> so go to sun's website and download their version?
[01:22] <nelposto> Jowi, sweet... fingers crossed. When I compile this, can i still choose between old and new kernel or...?
[01:22] <YukiIkyuta> Xtreme984, good luck?^^
[01:22] <Jowi> nelposto: when you do "make gconfig" or whatever, deactivate as many deprecated options as you can.
[01:22] <Xtreme984> thanks
[01:22] <poningru> tony_: yeah take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:22] <MrFarts> hey does anyone know whether there is a syslogger which supports redirection to a process ?
[01:23] <YukiIkyuta> MrFarts, to a *process*? How do you do that?
[01:23] <MrFarts> YukiIkyuta, you tell me
[01:23] <YukiIkyuta> MrFarts, that would be difficult. :)
[01:23] <tony_> see the problem is that I'm not real good with linux yet... so configuring stuff is err difficult if it's anything more than an apt get install whatever
[01:23] <CarinArr> hey, i've just installed qt4, had qt3 installed before.. it didn't seem to overwrite qmake and moc so i relinked them to moc-qt4 and qmake-qt4.. However, when using qmake then make, /usr/bin/ld can't find -lpq.. i've checked and libpq IS installed.. does anyone know why it's not able to find it?
[01:23] <MrFarts> YukiIkyuta, no it wouldn;t
[01:23] <Jowi> nelposto: yeah, if you don't overwrite your old kernel files. before installing the kernel, make backup copies of your old stuff
[01:23] <MrFarts> YukiIkyuta, that's what pipes are for :)
[01:23] <poningru> tony_: make sure to uninstall the blackdown before you do install sunjava
[01:23] <YukiIkyuta> MrFarts, but you can't just establish a pipe to an already-created process.
[01:23] <tony_> k
[01:23] <YukiIkyuta> Unless you imply one that *isn't* created. xP
[01:24] <tony_> way ahead of you
[01:24] <MrFarts> YukiIkyuta, you can pipe output to a new process
[01:24] <YukiIkyuta> Of course, to a *new* one.
[01:24] <YukiIkyuta> But for some reason I assumed you meant connecting to one which was already up. o__O
[01:24] <MrFarts> YukiIkyuta, this is what i would like to do
[01:24] <tony_> what about java-gcj?
[01:24] <YukiIkyuta> Hm.
[01:24] <tony_> leave that one or 86 it?
[01:24] <Seveas> YukiIkyuta, named pipes or redirecting to the pty of the process
[01:24] <poningru> remove it aswell
[01:24] <MrFarts> YukiIkyuta, actually it's probably be faster to write to a fifo
[01:24] <tony_> k
[01:25] <YukiIkyuta> You have a point.
[01:25] <MrFarts> Seveas, do you know whether any of the sysloggers will write to a fifo ?
[01:25] <YukiIkyuta> Seveas, true.
[01:25] <tony_> and java common?
[01:25] <Seveas> MrFarts, they won't unless you replace their output file with a fifo :)
[01:25] <poningru> I dont think that will cause much problems
[01:25] <tony_> k
[01:26] <MrFarts> Seveas, i guess i could do that, although i would prefer to write both to a file and to a fifo
[01:26] <nelposto> Jowi: what exactly should I backup? Also i just read that I will need to compile myself restricted modules packages...for me the fglrx driver... is this just another 'make' command or more?
[01:26] <YukiIkyuta> MrFarts, a fifo to a program that writes to another fifo and the file?
[01:26] <YukiIkyuta> ^^
[01:26] <MrFarts> i suppose i could put output both into a file and into a fifo
[01:27] <MrFarts> hmm
[01:27] <MrFarts> that would work :)
[01:27] <debugger> hello
[01:27] <Seveas> YukiIkyuta, look at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5504 for inspiration
[01:27] <Jowi> nelposto: backup /vmlinuz, /initrd.img /boot/vmlinuz and initrd and maybe config files. no idea about fglrx
[01:27] <debugger> you guys known a tool to enable the use of the "windows" key?  when I press "Windows" + "1", it prints "1" :/
[01:28] <Badm4n> EXTERNAL_TCP_ALLOW="80 443 22" <--- work for my client only or for my server too ?
[01:28] <Seveas> debugger, system -> prefs -> keyboard
[01:28] <poningru> yeah what he said
[01:28] <Badm4n> EXTERNAL_TCP_ALLOW="80 443 22" <--- work for my client only or for my server too ? ( ipmassq A*)firewall
[01:28] <MrFarts> Seveas, you inadvertently gave me an idea, thanks
[01:28] <nelposto> Jowi: ok thanks
[01:28] <Seveas> MrFarts, :)
[01:28] <poningru> wait its keyboard shorutcut
[01:29] <poningru> not keyboard
[01:29] <YukiIkyuta> Seveas, I love proc. ^^;
[01:29] <poningru> debugger: ^^^
[01:29] <Seveas> proc is cool
[01:29] <Xtreme984> can I play MP3s on Ubuntu???
[01:29] <tony_> lol everything's running slow cause I'm installing a source dedicated server on here so I can try running a CS:S server
[01:29] <Seveas> Xtreme984, yes
[01:29] <Seveas> !tell Xtreme984 about mp3
[01:29] <debugger> Seveas, I've been there, but didn't figure out what to change :(
[01:30] <tony_> it's been installing random crap for hours
[01:30] <Xtreme984> ah, Seveas thanks
[01:30] <Seveas> debugger, 'windows key maps to meta' and then set shortcuts in keyboard shortcuts to use 'meta + something'
[01:30] <debugger> Seveas, I was able to set some keys tho, gconftool-2 --type string --set /apps/metacity/global_keybindings/switch_to_workspace_$n "<Mod4>$n"
[01:31] <debugger> Seveas, I see. thx :)
[01:31] <debugger> Seveas, you known how "Meta" relates to "Mod4"?
[01:31] <zzyber> now i really need help, after my struggle with cupd.conf for getting my ubuntu to act like a printer server supporting windows with printer i reinstalled cups, now i dont have the conf files and cups wont start........what can i do?
[01:31] <ablm> hello there..
[01:31] <Badm4n> EXTERNAL_TCP_ALLOW="80 443 22" <--- work for my client only or for my server too ? ( ipmassq A80firewall )
[01:32] <Seveas> debugger, both are different modifyers
[01:32] <ablm> does someone knows how to add unstable paks in synaptic ?
[01:33] <poningru> ablm: what do you mean unstable paks?
[01:33] <debugger> Seveas, humm, but now, when I press (on the Keyboard Shortcut application), say, Windows+R, I get <Mod4>r.  Its seems Meta and Mod4 are the same?
[01:34] <tonyyarusso> I'm trying to follow the directions at http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/42578/ to install thinkpad modules, and running into trouble.
[01:34] <Gambit-> Is there an ubuntu widget for managing iptables/masq chains?}
[01:34] <tonyyarusso> I need to build the thinkpad-modules package from thinkpad-source.
[01:34] <debugger> Seveas, "now" is after changing the windows key behaviour like you said :)
[01:34] <tonyyarusso> And I don't know how to do that.
[01:35] <ablm> ponigru: I mean.. i need to install gtk 2.4...
[01:35] <tony_> ok ok so now it installed everything to a folder on my desktop
[01:35] <tony_> where do I need to move all this crap to?
[01:35] <ablm> i ve tryed to compile it.. but i miss gnome-sharp..
[01:36] <tonyyarusso> The make step in /usr/src/modules/thinkpad/2.6/drivers/ returns /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build: No such file or directory.
[01:36] <tonyyarusso> make error 2.
[01:36] <ablm> ponigru: Are there some unstable repository in ubuntu like there is in gentoo ?
[01:36] <tonyyarusso> Anyone know what I need to do?
[01:37] <poningru> ablm: there are backports
[01:37] <poningru> tonyyarusso: do you have build essentials?
[01:37] <poningru> !info build essentials
[01:37] <quadra> [ !unload : no module with this name ] 
[01:37] <Badm4n> EXTERNAL_TCP_ALLOW="80 443 22" <--- work for my client only or for my server too ? ( ipmassq A80firewall )
[01:37] <poningru> !info buildessentials
[01:37] <quadra> [ !unload : no module with this name ] 
[01:37] <ablm> i also have backports... :/
[01:37] <tonyyarusso> poningru: I'm not sure.
[01:38] <poningru> tonyyarusso: search your synaptic or apt-get
[01:38] <poningru> !build-essential
[01:38] <ubotu> poningru: Do they come in packets of five?
[01:38] <poningru> !info build-essential
[01:38] <quadra> [ !unload : no module with this name ] 
[01:38] <ubotu> build-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 11.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[01:39] <poningru> can soemone take out this quadra bot?
[01:39] <tony_> poningru, I downloaded the install and it installed everything into a folder on my desktop
[01:39] <esoteric> had a raided machine one disk died so boot from second.. but im getting a "L 99 99 99 " error (lilo i know) so must be old lilo install on the disk. so i wanted to install grub over it but with install disk i cant skip to the "install grub" section... keeps running me back to the setting up partitions section.. can anyone help?
[01:39] <poningru> brb
[01:39] <tony_> do I move the whole folder to another location or am I gonna have to split it up to all it's various locations?
[01:39] <YukiIkyuta> tony_, its*
[01:39] <tony_> whatever
[01:39] <tonyyarusso> poningru: Already newest version.  Yes.
[01:40] <Mirza___> EXTERNAL_TCP_ALLOW="80 443 22" <--- work for my client only or for my server too ? ( ipmassq A80firewall )
[01:40] <tony_> I know I'm just typing fast
[01:40] <Xtreme984> @YukiIkyuta, my brother's happy that it works :) MSN QUOTE " LINUX UBUNTU PWNS GAY PEOPLE:P "
[01:40] <YukiIkyuta> Xtreme984, I'm glad!! ^__^
[01:40] <YukiIkyuta> But what's he got against gays? XP
[01:40] <Xtreme984> I dunno, he was just joking around
[01:41] <YukiIkyuta> Haha, I know, so was I. ^^;
[01:41] <Alex_BO> HELLO!I'm looking for a program in linux like Album Wrapper in windows.can anybody help me?
[01:42] <peterretief> extconf.rb:1:in `require': no such file to load -- mkmf (LoadError)
[01:42] <peterretief> oops
[01:42] <peterretief> the error above, i see there is a xmkmf
[01:42] <peterretief> but no mkmf
[01:44] <myke> hey when i do a apt-get upgrade i get a a error of "bad header line"
[01:45] <myke> hey when i do a apt-get upgrade i get a a error of "bad header line"?
[01:45] <myke> any reason for this?
[01:47] <illustre> good morning
[01:48] <Gambit-> mornin'
[01:48] <illustre> i just install live cd on a toshiba laptop everything got detected and working fine
[01:48] <YukiIkyuta> Evening. ^^
[01:48] <illustre> i would like to know if from here i could do an install onto the HD to wipe entire windows and keep ubuntu
[01:49] <YukiIkyuta> illustre, an install CD will do that for you.
[01:49] <Mirza___> EXTERNAL_TCP_ALLOW="80 443 22" <--- work for my client only or for my server too ? ( ipmassq A80firewall )
[01:49] <illustre> i dont have one, how many cd's are they to download them
[01:49] <YukiIkyuta> Mirza___, that's a very random request without context.
[01:49] <YukiIkyuta> illustre, just the one, or you can get one shipped to you (free!) via ShipIt.
[01:50] <illustre> will ship is not an option since i would like to do asap
[01:50] <YukiIkyuta> illustre, in that case, you can download the ISO.
[01:50] <illustre> I AM VERY impress how fast it is even witha live cd which is slower the normal
[01:50] <YukiIkyuta> Definitely.
[01:51] <YukiIkyuta> illustre, where do you live? I'll find you a fast mirror.
[01:51] <illustre> even the wireless nic is working :-)  which is what i am using now
[01:51] <illustre> live in NEW YORK
[01:51] <YukiIkyuta> OK.
[01:52] <YukiIkyuta> illustre, x86, AMD64 or PPC?
[01:52] <illustre> i would have to download to another machine correct, or can i download here where i am running the live cd
[01:52] <illustre> x86
[01:52] <YukiIkyuta> illustre, probably to another machine, yes.
[01:52] <YukiIkyuta> illustre, http://mirror.yousendit.com/ubuntu/5.10/ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso is the one you want.
[01:52] <illustre> ok will do thanks
[01:53] <illustre> are u good with gnomemetting i would like to try thias b4
[01:53] <YukiIkyuta> illustre, I've never used it.
[01:54] <illustre> i think i might even install edubunto on my kids machine
[01:54] <YukiIkyuta> illustre, I don't know if that's exactly what you would want.
[01:54] <YukiIkyuta> Edubuntu is for schools.
[01:55] <rambo3> and school sucks
[01:55] <YukiIkyuta> rambo3, that's rather random - why do you say that? :)
[01:55] <tony_> school doesn't have to suck
[01:55] <illustre> how `can i su to root ?
[01:55] <illustre> on the live cd
[01:55] <rambo3> use sudo
[01:55] <tony_> for example... if you teach chemistry to high schoolers, you get to blow things up for a living!
[01:56] <YukiIkyuta> !tell illustre about sudo
[01:57] <tonyyarusso> poningru, are you back yet?
[01:59] <NegativeSoul> damn
[01:59] <t4c0> is Ubuntu specially geared towards new linux/unix users or can an experienced user who likes to build a minimalistic system enjoy ubuntu like he would .. say .. gentoo ?
[01:59] <YukiIkyuta> t4c0, you should find it works for both fine. ^^;
[01:59] <dragoon> t4c0: yea
[01:59] <Gambit-> t4c0, I'd say yes, but nothing beats gentoo for sheer obtuseness :)
[02:00] <dragoon> i use gentoo aswell - both good for own things
[02:00] <t4c0> one more thing .. on what version of debian is ubuntu based ?
[02:00] <illustre> strange, i mounted the ntfs as rw but i cant delete a file from the  win partition,  is this possible ?
[02:00] <t4c0> the latest version of ubuntu i mean
[02:00] <YukiIkyuta> illustre, unfortunately, we have no NTFS write support.
[02:00] <YukiIkyuta> t4c0, well, presumably at one point they branched off, and from there is the version of Debian, but the packages are kept in sync as best as possible.
[02:01] <illustre> whats the real issue that complicates that to rw to ntfs
[02:01] <Jowi> i think there is a rw ntfs support as a kernel option that is not marked as "experimental" any more.
[02:01] <Xtreme984> hm.... I can't set up the multiverse repository :(
[02:01] <YukiIkyuta> illustre, it's just not easy.
[02:01] <seenohand> help..how can i change the desktop theme color from brown to blue
[02:02] <Xtreme984> seenohand, right-click on your desktop and there should be an option at the bottom of the menu
[02:02] <seenohand> ok..will do now
[02:02] <Jowi> seenohand: download a blueish theme from art.gnome.org and choose it in the theme-manager.
[02:02] <tonyyarusso> seenohand: System > Preferences > Desktop Background works too.
[02:02] <Jowi> !themes
[02:03] <seenohand> the desktop background didnt work
[02:03] <Jowi> wow, that was alot of links
[02:03] <t4c0> thanks
[02:03] <illustre> i agree that default brown them is kinf od ugly :-)
[02:04] <seenohand> so ugly the computer is shuttin itself off
[02:04] <kvidell> I may use Enlightenment instead of gnome but keep the OpenBox elements.
[02:05] <Xtreme984> hm... how can I add the multiverse repository??? it doesn't pop up in the repository list
[02:06] <illustre> i am persuading my wife to switch from win to ubu  what would be the equivalent of paintshop here in ubuntu
[02:06] <seenohand> no theme in art.gnome.org
[02:06] <bungle> illustre, gimp
[02:06] <illustre> thats what i thought,  need to find a good tutorial for her then
[02:07] <bungle> guess so illustre ,  should be plenty online try their website
[02:10] <afd_> http://pastebin.com/453942   <- can someone help me resolve this? I'm trying to upgrade to draper, but the dist-upgrade process was stopped by this error
[02:11] <Jowi> afd_: maybe you should uninstall mplayer, continue with the upgrade, then re-install mplayer.
[02:12] <afd_> Jowi, yeah, I've just uninstalled it (together with some other stuff), and the upgrade process started again (by itself)
[02:12] <Jowi> had the same prob upgrading to breezy from hoary with the openoffice app.
[02:13] <marc> why is it that when I put in my USB Jump drive it says I do not have permission to write to it, it says I am not the owner
[02:14] <spola> firefox crashes *a lot* here, sometimes it even crashes when i try to run it !! when i go to pages with flash/or whatevr embedded its *likely* to crash
[02:14] <Jowi> marc: you should add something like this to your /etc/fstab: /dev/sda1       /media/camera vfat defaults,user,umask=000      0       0
[02:14] <N6REJ> I need to recursively search through a folder and change all instances of " "  to "_" how can I do this?
[02:14] <spola> is there anything i can do about it other then switching to mac os x?
[02:15] <Jowi> marc: the "umask=000" make it writable for everyone
[02:15] <marc> Ok I will try
[02:16] <tonyyarusso> N6REJ: rename 's/ /_/g' *  (replace * with something more sane if you don't want to match *everything*) will do the folder you're in; I don't think there is a good way to do it recursively.
[02:16] <Gambit-> so what's the recognized PHP distribution to be installing, or should I just try to build it from source?
[02:17] <tonyyarusso> N6REJ: I tried to get that same answer; I can pastebin the whole conversation if you'd like.
[02:17] <N6REJ> tony, yes please
[02:17] <Trendkill> hey guys, ive got an ubuntu server running and i want to have the system uatomatically update itself with chron every day but i dont want the updates to break anything. do i just leave the ubuntu security updates repositories or can i add the other reps as well without being afraid of breakage?
[02:18] <Gambit-> automatic updates on a production machine?  Fear
[02:18] <N6REJ> tonyyarusso: I bet perl could do this...  seems to me its something to do with ... for in case do
[02:18] <tonyyarusso> N6REJ: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5505
[02:18] <N6REJ> tonyyarusso: ty, I'll co read it.
[02:19] <Trendkill> Gambit-, i sort of had the same reflex
[02:19] <tonyyarusso> N6REJ: You're on the right track; the stuff within the apostrophes is a perl expression.
[02:19] <Gambit-> Trendkill, it's a smart reflex, listen to it
[02:19] <tonyyarusso> N6REJ: Sorry about the lines being to long in the paste.
[02:20] <frontovik> hi, does ubuntu include motif? thanks!
[02:20] <N6REJ> tonyyarusso: ok, I vaguely remember doing something like this with perl for in statements...  Thanks
[02:20] <Trendkill> Gambit-, hehe...but arent secuirity updates supposed to not break anything...specifically samba....i knoiw that the config file can bea problem between versions
[02:20] <tonyyarusso> N6REJ: np
[02:20] <crimsun> frontovik: enable universe and multiverse. There are lesstif and motif packages.
[02:21] <Gambit-> Trendkill, honestly, are you going to trust anyone else saying, "This won't break anything, but just fixes a security hole in the middle of a binary file by fiddling with critical functionality, but it'll work fine, honest!"
[02:21] <_jason> N6REJ,  tonyyarusso, I seem to remember putting /*/ in the s/ /_ and getting rename to go a level down.  So with some proper escaping it may be doable although I'm not sure how exactly
[02:21] <Gambit-> Trendkill, that's why you have staging machines and production machines, to test this stuff out first.
[02:21] <Trendkill> Gambit-, i trust slackware to do it
[02:21] <frontovik> crimsun: universe and mutiverse are window managers, yes? thanks!
[02:22] <Gambit-> Trendkill, scary you are
[02:22] <Trendkill> Gambit-, lol...
[02:22] <Gambit-> Trendkill, what is this "trust" you keep saying?
[02:22] <Trendkill> Gambit-, something i heard yoda talk about once
[02:22] <N6REJ> _jason: well, I'll invest some time researching it, because i"ve got over 1000 folders to do.  Its my Music directory
[02:22] <N6REJ> _jason: 17g worth!
[02:22] <Gambit-> Trendkill, yoda was workin' for the dark side mac
[02:23] <Trendkill> Trendkill, lol. well i guess ill take your advice and do the updates myself
[02:23] <Gambit-> glad to see you're listening to yourself
[02:24] <Trendkill> Gambit-, but i will just stick to the security updates repository though...
[02:26] <Trendkill> Gambit-, thanks for the feedback!
[02:27] <dpupp> wierd! i cant convert a wav to mono in audacity... the option is grayed out. anyone know how its done?
[02:28] <marc> I am still haveing problems with my jump drive
[02:28] <marc> it says it is read only
[02:29] <rambo3> whats a jump drive
[02:29] <Jowi> you did the changes to fstab?
[02:29] <marc> it is a usb flash drive
[02:29] <marc> yes
[02:30] <Gambit-> marc, what filesystem is on it?
[02:30] <Jowi> give me the fstab entry with only the line with the drive
[02:31] <marc> it was originally being used on my system when I had XP
[02:32] <marc> /dev/sda1       /media/PUBLIC 	vfat 	defaults,user,umask=000      0       0
[02:33] <Jowi> looks ok. "sudo umount /media/PUBLIC" and then "sudo mount /media/PUBLIC"
[02:33] <tonyyarusso> poningru, Are you here?
[02:34] <rambo3> you can change defaults to rw,user ...
[02:34] <Jowi> rambo3: should work anyway, i have the exact same entry that works fine.
[02:34] <marc> it said unmount command not found
[02:35] <rambo3> unount
[02:35] <irvin> marc, umount
[02:35] <marc> oh
[02:36] <Jowi> gotto eat. bbl
[02:37] <marc> now says media/PUBLIC not found
[02:37] <rambo3> sudo umount /dev/sda1
[02:38] <Aero-kun> hello, i have a question regarding the installation of ubuntu
[02:38] <YukiIkyuta> Aero-kun, go for it!
[02:38] <marc> umount: /media/PUBLIC: device is busy
[02:38] <holycow> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards  <-- what does "supports network install" mean on this page for wireless cards
[02:38] <diubidone> hey guys is there any probs w reps?
[02:38] <marc> this is what I got
[02:38] <diubidone> or is it just me?
[02:38] <Aero-kun> ok, i want to run a dualboot system, with both windows and ubuntu
[02:38] <YukiIkyuta> holycow, ie. you can install straight from the network, via PXE or otherwise.
[02:39] <holycow> YukiIkyuta, install what?
[02:39] <tonyyarusso> Aero-kun: I'm doing that now.
[02:39] <YukiIkyuta> holycow, Ubuntu!
[02:39] <Aero-kun> does ubuntu has his own bootsoftware or do i have to install bootmagic or something like that
[02:39] <holycow> ohhhh, pxe support built in ... i getcha
[02:39] <holycow> :)
[02:39] <YukiIkyuta> Aero-kun, it comes with it! ^^
[02:39] <YukiIkyuta> GRUB.
[02:39] <Aero-kun> ok, i knew red hat had it but i wasnt sure about ubuntu, thnx ^^
[02:39] <rambo3> i dont know about usbs , and i dont think that fstab should be the way to mount it .
[02:39] <tonyyarusso> Aero-kun: Grub works like magic for me, even boots to my IBM Recovery partition.
[02:40] <Aero-kun> ok thats great, that means i can install it later:)
[02:43] <Aero-kun> i can get to GRUB just by selecting a custom install right?
[02:43] <ptlo> buahahahahah
[02:43] <YukiIkyuta> Aero-kun, `custom'?
[02:43] <ptlo> one guy just went to ubuntu.org website, decided that Ubuntu (the distro) is a communistic bullshit, and intends not to install it
[02:43] <ptlo> man, what a misunderstanding
[02:43] <Aero-kun> uhm i mean expert install
[02:43] <hwt> i want to run an ubuntu based router from a cf card.
[02:43] <YukiIkyuta> Communistic!?
[02:43] <hwt> are there any projects for ubuntu on ramdisk?
[02:43] <YukiIkyuta> ptlo, where did you hear that!?
[02:43] <YukiIkyuta> Aero-kun, yep, of course!
[02:44] <Aero-kun> ok^^
[02:44] <Bushito> Hello, can any send me a link for the w32codecs? =3
[02:44] <Jowi> ptlo: that must be the first :)
[02:44] <monteiro> how i activate the control + alt + backspace that was enabled in hoary ?
[02:45] <YukiIkyuta> monteiro, it should work anyway!
[02:45] <tonyyarusso> monteiro: Should work the same right away.
[02:45] <Jowi> monteiro: it's disabled for you?
[02:45] <monteiro> yes
[02:45] <Bushito> monteiro: system > preference > keyboard shortcuts
[02:45] <BenUrban> i installed xorg-fglrx-drivers but the driver does not appear to be anywhere on my system.  where is it supposed to show up?
[02:46] <rambo3> fglrxinfo ?
[02:46] <BenUrban> ...
[02:46] <grayman> you can see in package properties
[02:46] <rambo3> in terminal
[02:46] <grayman> but why you need it?
[02:46] <BenUrban> grayman: what package properties?
[02:46] <sorush20> how do install the batch processes for the img programs and other programs?
[02:46] <ptlo> YukiIkyuta: one paranoia-stricken guy on some other irc network. first, he got to the site that has no connection to the Ubuntu distro, and then he promptly declared the stuff he read there as communist
[02:46] <BenUrban> grayman: i need it because x won't start without it
[02:46] <ptlo> Jowi: yeah :) really funny :)
[02:47] <monteiro> well, control + alt + backspace works :P sorry about the silly question
[02:47] <grayman> aha
[02:47] <YukiIkyuta> xD
[02:47] <grayman> !fglrx
[02:47] <ubotu> fglrx is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:47] <BenUrban> sigh
[02:47] <BenUrban> i followed that already
[02:47] <grayman> hmmmm
[02:47] <YukiIkyuta> ptlo, and hey, what's wrong with communism anyway? :) But seriously, some people like that ...
[02:47] <grayman> did you install it properly?
[02:47] <monteiro> when i move things in nautilus, its easy to crash , thats normal ?
[02:47] <BenUrban> ...
[02:47] <grayman> i mean
[02:48] <Jowi> monteiro: not normal at all.
[02:48] <rambo3> no
[02:48] <BenUrban> grayman: i did apt-get install xorg-fglrx-drivers
[02:48] <grayman> did you do all that wruitten there?
[02:48] <BenUrban> yes
[02:48] <rumplefor> does anybody here know how the traveling salesman problem works in c? and are willing to help me program a program to find the optiml route
[02:48] <grayman> what about xorg.conf editing?
[02:48] <BenUrban> the kernel module does not exist
[02:48] <licksjp> hello
[02:48] <Aero-kun> one more question? how does one mount a ntfs drive, i want to set up a file server
[02:48] <Bushito> how can i enable real transparency on gnome?
[02:48] <BenUrban> grayman: i ran dpkg-configure xserver-xorg
[02:49] <rambo3> rumplefor , first google. no one does your homework.
[02:49] <grayman> erm dunno about that. i edited it manually
[02:49] <Jowi> !tell Aero-kun about windowsdrives
[02:49] <BenUrban> grayman: i also tried using my ubuntu xorg.conf
[02:49] <BenUrban> err
[02:49] <ptlo> YukiIkyuta: well we're from a country that has lived under it for a long time, and apart from being totalitaristic it had brought with it some other stuff (like joining several nations in one country, and then having a preferred one, etc), and when we got out of it we had a war, all in the name of communism...soo...it doesn't bring positive feelings, really
[02:49] <BenUrban> gentoo
[02:49] <irvin> is fridge down?
[02:49] <grayman> hmmmm
[02:49] <grayman> also
[02:49] <ptlo> YukiIkyuta: but that is beside the point here. the guy's nuts anyways :)
[02:49] <grayman> what kernel you use?
[02:50] <rumplefor> rambo3: thanks but I dont need anyone to do my homework, I only need help
[02:50] <BenUrban> 2.6.12-9-386
[02:50] <rambo3> then join a channel that you program in c c++ java php
[02:50] <grayman> and you got the drivers for 386?
[02:50] <BenUrban> rumplefor: still, that question has nothing to do with ubuntu
[02:50] <BenUrban> grayman: ...
[02:51] <BenUrban> grayman: i installed whatever drivers it was supposed to install
[02:51] <rumplefor> lol everyone there thinks I want them to do my homework :)
[02:51] <rambo3> hrvat manje politike
[02:51] <grayman> i just checking
[02:51] <YukiIkyuta> ptlo, I see what you mean!
[02:51] <YukiIkyuta> rumplefor, what is it for, then?
[02:51] <ptlo> rambo3: i hate politics, i won't engage in discussion about it
[02:53] <xukun> is there a good tool or program to test my hardisk? I have the feeling that my hardisk isnt ok
[02:53] <YukiIkyuta> xukun, in what way?
[02:53] <Seveas> xukun, apt-get install smartmontools
[02:53] <xst> I have installed the mozilla-plugin-vlc package but it uses the wrong audio device as default. If I run vlc from the command line the correct audio device is used. How can I configure which audiodevice to be used for the firefox-vlc player?
[02:53] <xst> (that is: there is no sound)
[02:54] <xukun> YukiIkyuta, bad sectors and things like that
[02:54] <YukiIkyuta> Speaking of bad C, I appear to have created something that has a stack over 20000 frames long ..
[02:54] <Seveas> YukiIkyuta, wow :)
[02:54] <Seveas> that's... a lot...
[02:54] <Fujoor> exit
[02:54] <YukiIkyuta> I don't know how I did that ..
[02:55] <Seveas> YukiIkyuta, bad recursion? too much pass-by-value of large structures?
[02:55] <YukiIkyuta> Seveas, bad recursion indeed! I tried `f -1' to select the `first from last' frame, but of course gdb doesn't support this and froze my system for a good 10 seconds then returned.
[02:55] <blue-frog> just to remind me pls, breezy is compiled with gcc4, correct?
[02:56] <Seveas> YukiIkyuta, :)
[02:56] <Seveas> blue-frog, everything but the kernel is indeed gcc 4
[02:56] <licksjp> I installed the ubuntu today
[02:56] <Gus2> http://photo-club.org/
[02:56] <licksjp> It was nice OS
[02:56] <blue-frog> oh kernel is gcc3.3?
[02:56] <mcphail> 3.4
[02:56] <Gus2> Russian ?
[02:56] <blue-frog> ty
[02:57] <YukiIkyuta> Oops..
[02:57] <YukiIkyuta> Had randomint() calling randomint(). o_O
[02:57] <Seveas> rofl :)
[02:57] <holycow> mornin all
[02:58] <chorse> hello food
[02:58] <Seveas> hint: drand48(), rand(), /dev/urandom ...
[02:58] <chorse> err holycow :)
[02:58] <YukiIkyuta> And now I'm mixing up ANDs and ORs.. what *is* wrong with me?!
[02:58] <holycow> does anyone know how to force firefox to use the default fonts specified in options?  i have helvetica installed on my system and whenver a page suggests helvetica as an option foxy decides to ignore the defaults setup ... any ideas?
[02:58] <Seveas> YukiIkyuta, coffee deprivation?
[02:58] <YukiIkyuta> Seveas, possibly, probably moreso because I don't drink coffee but it's 1am anyway =__=
[02:59] <holycow> ey :)
[02:59] <Seveas> mv /proc/YukiIkyuta /dev/bed && sleep
[02:59] <YukiIkyuta> sleep: too few arguments
[02:59] <YukiIkyuta> Because you can't sleep without an argument about it!
[02:59] <YukiIkyuta> (in this case, after it)
[03:00] <Seveas> YukiIkyuta, sleep --force --now --until-you\'re-awake-again
[03:00] <Nikusan> holycow, have you got the Always use my fonts box ticked?
[03:00] <holycow> Nikusan, doh!!!!!
[03:01] <holycow> damnit, actually its 'uncheck the website can choose their own font'
[03:01] <holycow> heh i'm a retard
[03:01] <holycow> thx :)
[03:01] <Nikusan> no probs
[03:02] <xukun> Seveas, I installed smartmontools but now if I do "smartctl --all /dev/hda
[03:02] <xukun> " dan I get "SMART Disabled. Use option -s with argument 'on' to enable it." what I,m missing here?
[03:02] <Seveas> xukun, read the documentation :)
[03:02] <xukun> Seveas, I have done that
[03:02] <Seveas> (read that as: I don't have a clue, but the docs probably have)
[03:02] <YukiIkyuta> xukun, perhaps "smartctl -s on --all /dev/hda" ?
[03:02] <YukiIkyuta> Just a guess.
[03:04] <Seveas> YukiIkyuta, I thought you went to bed?
[03:04] <YukiIkyuta> Seveas, I'm in bed. With a laptop. With an XDMCP[sp?]  client open. >___>;
[03:04] <Seveas> why XDMCP?
[03:04] <Jowi> probably the "--until-you\'re-awake-again" switch fault
[03:04] <Nikusan> I want to develop wx Apps in Anjuta, I've got basically every wx related package from the repos installed, can anyone help?
[03:04] <YukiIkyuta> Alright, VNC.
[03:05] <xukun> YukiIkyuta, thanks
[03:05] <YukiIkyuta> xukun, yay!
[03:06] <Seveas> YukiIkyuta, vnc is even worse :)
[03:06] <YukiIkyuta> Seveas, what's the alternative? oO
[03:06] <YukiIkyuta> Just openening X clients?
[03:06] <Seveas> FreeNX
[03:06] <YukiIkyuta> oO
[03:09] <BenUrban> ok i managed to get into x...
[03:09] <BenUrban> now i have another problem
[03:09] <BenUrban> sudo doesn't work :/
[03:10] <BenUrban> when i tryto use sudo, it asks me for my password, and then ignores it
[03:10] <YukiIkyuta> BenUrban, typically that means it didn't ignore it, it worked!
[03:10] <YukiIkyuta> What's an example when you used it?
[03:11] <soundray> BenUrban, it ignores passwords when they are wrong...
[03:11] <BenUrban> it's not my password that it ignored
[03:11] <BenUrban> it's the command
[03:11] <mustard5> is there anything I should think about before installing the latest .deb for gtk-gnutella from sourceforge?
[03:11] <BenUrban> i type sudo <anything> and it ignores <anything>
[03:11] <soundray> BenUrban, that's what I mean.
[03:11] <BenUrban> ...
[03:12] <YukiIkyuta> soundray, it'll complain about the password, actually. I think.
[03:12] <afd_> I've upgraded to dapper, but I don't like the new blue color for the controls. I've tried some theme variations, but I really like clearlook, just not the color used now. How could I change it?
[03:12] <soundray> YukiIkyuta, not here, just checked.
[03:12] <BenUrban> i've never seen sudo do that in gentoo...
[03:12] <BenUrban> and i use it exclusively there
[03:12] <YukiIkyuta> soundray, on incorrect password, I get "Sorry, try again."
[03:12] <Jowi> BenUrban: so what command did you try to execute?
[03:13] <BenUrban> wel, for example...
[03:13] <BenUrban> when i type sudo bash
[03:13] <soundray> YukiIkyuta, BenUrban, my fault. I tried an empty password instead of a wrong one.
[03:13] <soundray> sorry...
[03:13] <YukiIkyuta> soundray, that *will* do it, however.
[03:13] <BenUrban> it asks for the password, and then drops me back to my shell prompt
[03:13] <YukiIkyuta> BenUrban, what command do you try?
[03:13] <BenUrban> when i do whoami, it says benurban (instead of root)
[03:13] <soundray> BenUrban, sudo bash is insecure, anyway.
[03:13] <BenUrban> yeah i know
[03:14] <Jowi> BenUrban: well, bash doesn't seem to do anything if you're already running it so that should be ok.
[03:14] <BenUrban> but i couldn't think of another example offhand
[03:14] <Jowi> BenUrban: sudo cat /etc/sudoers
[03:14] <YukiIkyuta> BenUrban, "sudo -s" is the correct way to get to bash, anyway!
[03:14] <Jowi> (should print the sudoers file)
[03:14] <BenUrban> Jowi: nothing
[03:14] <Xtreme984> hello all, I'm having a bit of a problem setting up Ubuntu on my computer
[03:15] <BenUrban> benurban@lc2430-ubuntu:~$ sudo cat /etc/sudoers
[03:15] <BenUrban> benurban@lc2430-ubuntu:~$
[03:15] <Jowi> that is wierd
[03:15] <Xtreme984> I need to make a new linux partition, but all space has gone to my NTFS partition
[03:15] <BenUrban> it is
[03:15] <Nikusan> what's the problem Xtreme984?
[03:15] <BenUrban> and it does it with gnome-sudo also
[03:15] <soundray> BenUrban, the sudo in your path doesn't link to 'true' by any chance?
[03:15] <Xtreme984> Nikusan, I need to make a new linux partition, but the partitioner it starts, will not cooperate
[03:15] <irvin> Xtreme984, you'll need to give some space to Ubuntu
[03:15] <BenUrban> lol
[03:15] <Bushito> how can i access my NTFS windows partition form windows???
[03:15] <irvin> Xtreme984, Partition Magic
[03:16] <BenUrban> soundray: true wouldn't ask for my password ;)
[03:16] <Bushito> from linux*
[03:16] <YukiIkyuta> BenUrban, good point.
[03:16] <kenichi> BenUrban: what does "sudo -i" do at your bash?
[03:16] <BenUrban> $ echo $?
[03:16] <BenUrban> 141
[03:16] <soundray> BenUrban, true.
[03:16] <BenUrban> hmmmmm
[03:16] <Xtreme984> irvin, there's already a partition manager started from the linux install disc
[03:16] <Jowi> !tell Bushito about ntfs
[03:16] <BenUrban> kenichi: same thing
[03:16] <Absenth> with any luck, after today, my laptop will be free of it's Windows XP infection :)
[03:16] <YukiIkyuta> Absenth, its*!
[03:16] <BenUrban> no output, returns 141
[03:16] <soundray> BenUrban, maybe I should keep out of this... sth's not working today.
[03:16] <Gambit---> how would I find out what packages lex and yacc are kept in?
[03:16] <kenichi> Bushito: do you want to access it from ubuntu or windows?
[03:17] <Nikusan> Xtreme984, does the partitioner on the install disc give you the option to resize the existing windows partition?
[03:17] <kenichi> BenUrban: hmm, curious
[03:17] <Absenth> YukiIkyuta,  with a little help from the new version of Crossover Office anyway :)
[03:17] <Xtreme984> nikusan, yes it does... but it does not work
[03:17] <YukiIkyuta> Absenth, blah! OpenOffice works just as well.
[03:18] <kenichi> Bushito: sudo mount -t ntfs </dev/sdxy> </media/mointpoint>
[03:18] <BenUrban> the only way i was able to get ubuntu to this point was using su...
[03:18] <BenUrban> and i really don't want to do that
[03:18] <xadux> if I have configured a server of email and one account dont send the email to specific destiny, what could be the problem?
[03:19] <frogzoo> !tell Bushito about ntfs
[03:19] <kenichi> Bushito: ntfs is mounted read only
[03:19] <dawnF> can someone help me? Ubuntu doesn't boot anymore and seems to hang when mounting local filesystems
[03:19] <kenichi> Bushito: you cant and you shouldnt write on it
[03:19] <dawnF> i'm not quite sure what i should do next
[03:19] <Jowi> xadux: you should get a clear error message of why the mail wasn't delivered (host not known etc)
[03:20] <soundray> dawnF, did you change anything in the bios setup?
[03:20] <Absenth> YukiIkyuta,  sure, as long as you're not going to school at ITT-Tech where their online courses are EXTREMELY picky about having IE, and MS Office.
[03:20] <dawnF> no
[03:20] <frogzoo> xadux: firewall? DNS? sendmail.conf? perms on /var/spool/mail ?
[03:20] <dawnF> i hear my hd doing things but nothing happens
[03:20] <Absenth> YukiIkyuta,  problem 2 is I manage a windows network as my job, so some of the tools I just have to have.
[03:20] <soundray> dawnF, have you tried booting the rescue kernel?
[03:20] <YukiIkyuta> Absenth, I suppose so!
[03:20] <dawnF> it stops at * Mounting local filesystmes and then dev/sdb3
[03:20] <dawnF> yes
[03:20] <BenUrban> btw, my sudoers file has two lines that are not commented out:
[03:20] <dawnF> that works soundray
[03:20] <dawnF> but when i then try to reboot,no luck
[03:20] <BenUrban> Defaults        !lecture,tty_tickets,!fqdn
[03:21] <YukiIkyuta> And Absenth, I'm both going to and working at the one school, and I'm trying to convert them to Ubuntu, slowly. ^^
[03:21] <BenUrban> root    ALL=(ALL) ALL
[03:21] <Xtreme984> hm... I don't feel like having to erase my entire harddrive
[03:21] <BenUrban> does that look right?
[03:21] <Jowi> BenUrban: yes
[03:21] <dawnF> could this be something with the fstab file?
[03:21] <irvin> i'm looking at DebootstrapChroot in the wiki
[03:21] <soundray> dawnF, with the rescue kernel, are you able to mount /dev/sdb3 from the command line?
[03:21] <slept> BenUrban, do you have a root account/ password enabled ?
[03:21] <irvin> do i have to manually install this: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/debootstrap/debootstrap_0.3.1.6ubuntu1_all.deb?
[03:21] <dawnF> i'll try
[03:21] <Jowi> BenUrban: you should also have %admin  ALL=(ALL) ALL
[03:21] <irvin> or just do apt-get install dchroot debootstrap?
[03:22] <BenUrban> slept: how do i check?
[03:22] <dawnF> i'm going to reboot, just a minute
[03:22] <YukiIkyuta> irvin, the latter. They'll do the same thing.
[03:22] <Jowi> BenUrban: that'll make members of the admin group being able to use sudo
[03:22] <slept> BenUrban, do you remeber the password for root ?
[03:22] <BenUrban> slept: of course ;)
[03:22] <mustard5> BenUrban, you would also need to make sure you are part of the admin group if you add that line...
[03:22] <Xtreme984> <_<
[03:22] <dawnF> soundray: strange thing i did a ctr alt F4 and i'm able to boot
[03:23] <dawnF> how can this happen?
[03:23] <BenUrban> ooh hmm
[03:23] <irvin> YukiIkyuta, i'm running on breezy and want a dapper chroot
[03:23] <mustard5> BenUrban, alternatively you could just add your user name instead of %admin
[03:23] <BenUrban> just noticed that i forgot to add my benurban group
[03:23] <dawnF> any suggestions to check fstab or the consistency of the drive?
[03:23] <Absenth> on a somewhat related note, how do I go about installing the older version of GCC, since the kernel wasn't compiled with 4.0.2?
[03:23] <soundray> dawnF, no idea. Perhaps your /var/log/syslog has some error message relating to the problem.
[03:23] <rambo3> dawnF you have all info on wiki
[03:24] <BenUrban> oh
[03:24] <YukiIkyuta> YukiIkyuta, interesting!
[03:24] <BenUrban> correction: i forgot to change the gid for benurban
[03:24] <BenUrban> heh
[03:24] <Seveas> YukiIkyuta, you're talking to yourself - get some sleep :)
[03:24] <dawnF> i'll check that
[03:24] <dawnF> thanks
[03:24] <Xtreme984> can anyone tell me why the install disc can't resize my current windows partition?
[03:24] <Seveas> Absenth, apt-get install gcc-3.4
[03:25] <clem_yeats> Xtreme984: I didn't even know it was supposed to support this feature..
[03:25] <YukiIkyuta> Xtreme984, it's not going to.
[03:25] <Xtreme984> YukiIkyuta, why not?
[03:25] <Jowi> BenUrban: so create it :) and add yourself to it
[03:26] <Absenth> Seveas, Danke.  There will be maybe 2 or 3 more questions as they come up during this install.  :)
[03:26] <YukiIkyuta> Xtreme984, it doesn't know how! You'll have to do that via some other means.
[03:26] <BenUrban> shouldit get a specific gid?
[03:26] <Xtreme984> ok, so I'll just go and search for partition magic then, thanks all
[03:26] <clem_yeats> no prob, good luck Xtreme984
[03:26] <mustard5> BenUrban, try just using your username instead of %admin
[03:26] <BenUrban> wtf i can sudo now
[03:26] <YukiIkyuta> Xtreme984, shouldn't be too hard. :)
[03:26] <Jowi> BenUrban: admin is 4 for me
[03:26] <BenUrban> i replaced %admin with benurban
[03:26] <BenUrban> and now i can sudo
[03:26] <YukiIkyuta> Seveas, ... I didn't even notice that.
[03:27] <BenUrban> hmm
[03:27] <BenUrban> i have a gid 4 called "adm"
[03:27] <BenUrban> and i'm in that group
[03:27] <Jowi> BenUrban: argh, sorry, misread. you're right
[03:27] <Absenth> what was the command to point the c compiler to gcc 3.4?
[03:28] <Jowi> BenUrban: should be "admin" is 109
[03:28] <BenUrban> ah
[03:28] <Jowi> BenUrban: "id" should list them all
[03:28] <BenUrban> Jowi: 109 is messagebus
[03:28] <mustard5> Absenth CC=gcc 3.4?
[03:28] <goo_> Could anyone please tell me how I get my hands on a libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3) that goes with breezy ? I am having a hard time installing lincvs
[03:29] <Absenth> mustard5,  that's what I'm looking for, thanks.
[03:29] <mustard5> Absenth, I recall an EXPORT command after that..but my recollection is hazy :)
[03:29] <Jowi> BenUrban: shouldn't matter which gid you use i think.
[03:29] <BenUrban> ok
[03:29] <YukiIkyuta> Absenth, export CC=gcc-3.4
[03:30] <pinkisntwell> how can I limit the diskspace taken up by trash?
[03:31] <ted> heya
[03:32] <Astxist> NTFS-fs error (device hda5): ntfs_ucstonls(): Unicode name contains characters that cannot be converted to character set cp437. <- anyone have an idea how to fix that?
[03:32] <rambo3> its not like its reserved like in xp
[03:32] <Astxist> clogging up my logs
[03:32] <afd_> who put that ugly blue color in clearlooks on dapper?
[03:32] <mustard5> goo_, I don't think breezy uses that lib
[03:32] <ted> i think i may have screwed up my sources.list in some stupid way.  anyone know where i can find a default / clean copy of it?
[03:33] <dawnF> i'm not sure about my fstab config anymore, is there a way to get fstab autoconfigured again?
[03:34] <soundray> dawnF, I don't know, but if you paste your fstab on pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl, I'll try and help you debug it.
[03:34] <goo_> mustard5: lincvs depends on it, anyway. Maybe I have some stray sources..
[03:34] <Absenth> how do I download the appropriate kernel headers for my system?  and get them to the standard /usr/src/linux/include/ folder in a somewhat standard fashion?
[03:34] <Astxist> ted, I have the orginal copy from my install if you want it I know of no other way atm
[03:35] <Absenth> I know it's apt-get install something :)  running the i686 kernel
[03:35] <mustard5> goo_, breezy uses libqt3-mt 3.3.3.4
[03:35] <BenUrban> ok, next question: how do i hide my sticky notes?
[03:35] <mustard5> goo_, you might be able to edit the dependencies for the package to point to that lib
[03:35] <ted> Astxist:  that would be awesome, thanks
[03:35] <afd_> Absenth, linux-source or something
[03:35] <rambo3> if you download kernel headers (uname -r ) thay will be in /usr/src
[03:36] <rambo3> with apt or synaptics
[03:36] <dawnF> soundray > i pasted it as fstab dawnnf
[03:36] <dawnF> i mean fstab dawnf
[03:36] <mustard5> goo_, I wouldnt know how to do it, but I know that that particular lib causes quite a few issues for example it is used for the skype .deb at the skype website
[03:36] <Astxist> ted, might need to change the au. bits and it's for 5.10 of course
[03:37] <mustard5> goo_, it was necessary to edit the skype package to use the newer lib that breezy uses
[03:37] <ted> astxist: that's cool.  i'm using 5.10.  many thanks!
[03:38] <Astxist> ted, np
[03:38] <Aron_Figaro> Hey guys - I just got a Samba share set up on this machine and for some reason my Windoze box can't see it. what's going on? When I boot the same box to Linux, it works.
[03:38] <illustre> how would i install amsn with synaptic
[03:38] <soundray> dawnF, do you have a /dev/sda at all?
[03:38] <Jowi> Aron_Figaro: windows firewall maybe
[03:38] <afd_> my gnome just got a ton uglier by installing dapper :(
[03:39] <dawnF> soundray > is there a way of telling?
[03:39] <djib> anyone is in dapper here ?
[03:39] <frogzoo> afd_: things will get uglier yet ... :)
[03:39] <dawnF> i think i have an sda for my windows partition
[03:39] <djib> nautilus keeps on crashing
[03:39] <djib> it won't even start
[03:39] <djib> what could I do ?
[03:39] <soundray> dawnF, how many hard drives in your machine?
[03:39] <dawnF> but i commented it out because of the trouble with booting
[03:39] <frogzoo> djib: don't use dapper, of course
[03:39] <dawnF> 2 hd's
[03:39] <afd_> frogzoo, what can I do give a feedback on this?
[03:39] <mustard5> djib, wait for them to fix it?
[03:40] <mustard5> djib, if you are going to use a development release then you have to expect that it will break regularly
[03:40] <soundray> dawnF, and your first hd is for another OS I take it?
[03:40] <dawnF> i suppose so
[03:40] <InS4Ne> server libres.irc-hispano.org
[03:40] <djib> but mustard5 how can I know if it is my computer or just dapper ?
[03:41] <frogzoo> afd_: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/bugs/document_view
[03:41] <Aron_Figaro> Jowi: No software firewalls running, and it's all local.
[03:41] <soundray> dawnF, are your drives on a SATA, SCSI, USB or firewire bus?
[03:41] <afd_> frogzoo, thx
[03:41] <Aron_Figaro> Jowi: Ah wait, yeah, buggy Windoze firewall
[03:41] <dawnF> SATA
[03:41] <Jowi> :)
[03:41] <Aron_Figaro> Jowi: Riiiiight. Lemme see if that's blocking my own LAN
[03:41] <dawnF> and one lacie on usb
[03:41] <illustre> i need to install amsn i see is not possible to do with synaptic what would be another way ?
[03:42] <YukiIkyuta> illustre, it *is* possible from AMSN.
[03:42] <AngryParsley> hey, just how stable/useful is the x86-64 version of ubuntu?
[03:42] <Ng> illustre: enable the universe repository and you can use synaptic
[03:42] <YukiIkyuta> Make sure universe and multiverse are selected.
[03:42] <YukiIkyuta> AngryParsley, I'm running it right now. It's very useful!
[03:42] <Ng> AngryParsley: it's fine if you don't care about things like windows codecs
[03:43] <dawnF> soundray, do you think the problem is the fstab file or perhaps the drive itself?
[03:43] <soundray> dawnF, apart from the fact that you are booting Ubuntu from your second hd, I can see nothing special or faulty in your fstab.
[03:43] <eno> is there a newer distribution than 5.10?
[03:43] <Aron_Figaro> Jowi: Where the heck did they move it to??
[03:43] <YukiIkyuta> Ng, well, that too. x__x
[03:43] <dawnF> it's strange isn't it
[03:43] <YukiIkyuta> eno, 6.4 is in the works, but 5.10 is latest.
[03:43] <AngryParsley> Ng: well... that sucks
[03:43] <eno> cause I did sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and it did not work
[03:43] <frogzoo> eno: there is dapper - which is _not_ stable
[03:43] <illustre> i dont see the universe reposi....
[03:43] <eno> my mother is _not_ stable
[03:43] <Jowi> Aron_Figaro: no idea. also check that the workgroup is the correct one in windows. Linux defaults to MSHOME while windows defaults to WORKGROUP
[03:43] <soundray> dawnF, if booting works all right at the moment, I wouldn't worry about it for now.
[03:44] <dawnF> so it seems to hang while i'm mounting my drive, but if i do the ctrl alt f4 i get passed it
[03:44] <dawnF> soundray, i haven't tried rebooting it
[03:44] <AngryParsley> YukiIkyuta and Ng: is it that hard to upgrade to it?
[03:44] <YukiIkyuta> eno, your *mother*?
[03:44] <Aron_Figaro> Jowi: Yeah, took care of that one already.
[03:44] <mustard5> djib, I don't know ... which is why I stay away from dapper :)
[03:44] <YukiIkyuta> AngryParsley, `that' hard? I installed 64-bit straight on.
[03:44] <eno> yeah... I use the computer from Alien, get over it
[03:44] <Xtreme984> <_< still no partitionmagic boot disk found :(
[03:44] <AngryParsley> YukiIkyuta: well I'm running normal 32 bit ubuntu right now, and I don't want to format and reinstall
[03:44] <YukiIkyuta> Hahaha.
[03:44] <Jowi> Aron_Figaro: then its most likely the firewall
[03:44] <djib> mustard5, yeah... it makes sense
[03:45] <YukiIkyuta> AngryParsley, ah, I see.. I have no experience with upgrading Ubuntu myself, I'm afraid ><
[03:45] <djib> when will the stable dapper be released ?
[03:45] <AngryParsley> can I just change my sources or something or do I have to reinstall?
[03:45] <soundray> dawnF, perhaps it's hanging on something different altogether. Is your boot screen graphical (big Ubuntu logo)?
[03:45] <dawnF> yes
[03:45] <mustard5> djib, six months after the breezy release
[03:45] <Ng> AngryParsley: you can't upgrade to it
[03:45] <illustre> ng: how do i enable that
[03:45] <dawnF> but that worked before
[03:45] <Ng> AngryParsley: you will have to reinstall
[03:45] <AngryParsley> Ng: oh, do I have to wipe the partition I'm installing to?
[03:45] <Ng> illustre: there's a repositories page if you search the wiki
[03:45] <YukiIkyuta> AngryParsley, how many partitions no your system?
[03:45] <djib> I thought that dapper was a bit like debian sid which is fine
[03:45] <AngryParsley> YukiIkyuta: 2
[03:45] <soundray> dawnF, do you know how to change that? It might reveal what the real problem is.
[03:45] <dawnF> it's doing things fine, in the graphical mode, but escapes it when it comes to mounting the local filesystems
[03:45] <djib> but is seems way more unstable
[03:45] <Ng> AngryParsley: no, you could install over the top, but it would be messy
[03:45] <YukiIkyuta> AngryParsley, root and swap?
[03:45] <AngryParsley> YukiIkyuta: oh, 3 then
[03:45] <Aron_Figaro> Jowi: Alright, Windows isn't letting me even see the firewall screen, at least not where its own documentation says it should be
[03:45] <YukiIkyuta> !repositories
[03:45] <ubotu> hmm... repositories is How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list
[03:46] <AngryParsley> root, swap, and a 200 gig backup drive
[03:46] <mustard5> djib, breezy was only just released in October..so dapper development is still in its infancy
[03:46] <AngryParsley> I can easily fit all my root stuff on my 200 gig drive, but I wanted to save time
[03:46] <Jowi> Aron_Figaro: that's typical. :) must make a call, i be back in a while
[03:46] <djib> yeah
[03:46] <dawnF> jolly jolly! this time it DID boot fine
[03:46] <AngryParsley> ok, so backup my system drive and grab a 64 bit ISO
[03:46] <Aron_Figaro> Jowi: LOL
[03:46] <AngryParsley> thanks for you help guys
[03:46] <frogzoo> how can I turn off power to my lappy CD drive ?
[03:46] <dawnF> who said computers are exact science ;-)
[03:46] <AngryParsley> *your help
[03:46] <soundray> dawnF, so you're all set?
[03:47] <dawnF> think so, thanks a bunch soundray!!!
[03:47] <YukiIkyuta> dawnF, very true!
[03:47] <soundray> dawnf, I didn't really have any part in it... :)
[03:47] <dawnF> yeah, i'll just touch wood from now on ;-)
[03:47] <Absenth> ok, I give up, which application do I use again to unzip bz2 files?
[03:48] <Absenth> gunzip -d filename.tar.bz2 isn't cutting it.
[03:48] <soundray> Absenth, bunzip2?
[03:48] <frogzoo> bunzip2 would you believe?
[03:48] <Absenth> bunzip2.....    that explains why bunzip didn't work.
[03:48] <jl0gik> w00t! I got my wireless running
[03:48] <soundray> Absenth, also try tar jxvf
[03:48] <Absenth> thanks.
[03:48] <YukiIkyuta> Absenth, `tar jxvf'
[03:48] <YukiIkyuta> Absenth, and `tar zxvf' for .tar.gz's.
[03:48] <illustre> what would be easier syhnaptic or apt,  i am just testring this out i appretiante any feed back to install packages that id not come with the live cd
[03:49] <Absenth> YukiIkyuta,  good to know,  I didn't know the j switch.  well versed in xvfz  :)
[03:49] <YukiIkyuta> Absenth, ^^
[03:49] <frogzoo> illustre: synaptic is great 2 begin with
[03:49] <eno> yeah
[03:49] <dawnF> thanks again soundray, looks like i'll be able to work today afterall
[03:49] <dawnF> bye for now
[03:49] <soundray> dawnF, cheers.
[03:50] <illustre> i typed amsn and it does not come up
[03:50] <YukiIkyuta> illustre, you installed it, right? ^^;
[03:51] <Gandalf20000|awa> hi all
[03:51] <Gandalf20000|awa> hab gerade ein kleines problem mit meiner ubuntu distibution, bzw. kde oder allgemein dem x-server
[03:51] <soundray> Gandalf20000|awa, bitte geh zu #ubuntu-de
[03:52] <Gandalf20000|awa> thx
[03:52] <illustre> YukiIkyuta, no it does not show to install just on the left pane by itself cant install
[03:52] <Jowi> Aron_Figaro: back. you managed?
[03:52] <Absenth> the linux-headers package gets installed to /usr/??? when installed via synaptic?
[03:53] <Sammy76> does ubuntu work with j model prescotts?
[03:53] <Absenth> or better still, how would I (using synaptic) determine where it is going to put things (that whole teach a man to fish bit...)
[03:53] <tanek> does anyone know which port to open to be able to hos battle.net games?
[03:54] <illustre> YukiIkyuta, is it possible to install with synaptic or is it just to upgrade packages
[03:55] <frogzoo> Sammy76: ubuntu works on all 386 arch
[03:55] <Aron_Figaro> Jowi: Nope.
[03:56] <frogzoo> and plenty else besides
[03:56] <Aron_Figaro> Jowi: this thing's a royal pain in the arse. I know the config's right on the server machine though. :)
[03:56] <aleitner> Is the breezy-update archive working? I saw that a new evince version (which fixes a segfault) entered it a couple of days ago, but the archive does not yet contain the corresponding .deb...
[03:56] <Jowi> Aron_Figaro: no Zonealarm or anything?
[03:56] <Aron_Figaro> Jowi: Nah, I've got a good hardware firewall :)
[03:57] <infernall> with FTP, which end determines the PASV ports to use?
[03:57] <Jowi> Aron_Figaro: great. so disable the windows firewall totally as well
[03:57] <infernall> For instance, if I use vsftpd, and tell it to use ports 3500-3600 for pasv, what makes the client actually use these ports?
[03:58] <Aron_Figaro> Jowi: that's what I'm trying to do
[03:58] <Aron_Figaro> Jowi: but it's not letting me even see the damn screen ><
[03:58] <illustre> YukiIkyuta, can you shed morel light how to install amsn with synaptic
[03:58] <YukiIkyuta> YukiIkyuta, you can install, of course.
[03:58] <aleitner> does anybody know where one can get (source-)packages after they have been accepted but before they are built?
[03:58] <YukiIkyuta> Oh fuck, I'm talking to myself again.
[03:58] <frogzoo> infernall: that's the whole thing about pasv - the ports are opened by the client
[03:58] <YukiIkyuta> illustre, yes, you can install AMSN. Did you enable the universe repository?
[03:58] <illustre> i dont see where to do that
[03:59] <infernall> frogzoo, so the client must be configured per host to use specific ports for pasv?
[03:59] <frogzoo> infernall: yup
[03:59] <YukiIkyuta> !tell illustre about repositories
[03:59] <infernall> alright, thanks.
[03:59] <Absenth> Does anyone have any suggestions about the following error?    The directory of kernel headers (version 2.6.12-10-686) does not match your
[03:59] <Absenth> running kernel (version 2.6.12-9-686)
[03:59] <Aron_Figaro> Jowi: $#%#ing thing...is there anywhere other than the "Internet Connections --> LAN Connection --> Advanced" tab where I can disable that firewall?
[03:59] <Aron_Figaro> Jowi: Because it's totally not displaying that tab.
[04:00] <Jowi> Aron_Figaro: XP, 2000 or 98?
[04:00] <YukiIkyuta> Absenth, the kernel headers installed don't match the one running!
[04:00] <Aron_Figaro> Jowi: XP
[04:00] <YukiIkyuta> (note that 2.6.12-10 != 2.6.12-9)
[04:00] <Jowi> w8
[04:00] <frogzoo> Absenth: you're trying to compile a kernel, but your headers are wrong - interesting your headers are more recent
[04:00] <Aron_Figaro> Jowi: Which is why I'm digging, I used to sysadmin 2k
[04:01] <YukiIkyuta> Or not compile a kernel, but just rather, you're doing something that needs the right headers.
[04:01] <YukiIkyuta> And they're not the right ones.
[04:01] <Aron_Figaro> Jowi: of course I lock my networks down like Fort Knox at work, which I don't really like right now XD
[04:01] <YukiIkyuta> So install the right ones!! ^^;
[04:01] <frogzoo> YukiIkyuta: headers are used for compiles & nothing else
[04:02] <Absenth> YukiIkyuta, frogzoo, yeah I gathered that,  Synaptic doesn't have a headers 2.6.12-9 option....   And this is for installing vmware, it needs to create a kernel module.
[04:02] <Jowi> Aron_Figaro: just remembered, replaced XP for 2000 pro here. should be in the controlpanel, Firewall (the shield icon)
[04:02] <YukiIkyuta> frogzoo, I'm aware, but I meant to remove saying `not compile a *kernel*' - in this case, vmware.
[04:02] <YukiIkyuta> Absenth, there's no kernel-headers-2.6.12-9 ?
[04:02] <YukiIkyuta> (I see one!)
[04:02] <rambo3> vmware = licence , has people that are payed for  support
[04:03] <Aron_Figaro> Jowi: O.o...that doesn't exist, and I just read some documentation that says it'll only install if you aren't behind a hardware firewall
[04:03] <Aron_Figaro> Jowi: Since I'm behind my router there isn't a win-firewall up
[04:03] <Absenth> YukiIkyuta, my bad, I'm a moron....
[04:03] <Jowi> Aron_Figaro: can you ping the linux machine
[04:03] <Jowi> ?
[04:03] <Necrocide> How do I make my windows partition re-write?
[04:03] <YukiIkyuta> Necrocide, you can't!
[04:03] <Necrocide> :(
[04:03] <Absenth> rambo3, yeah....  Just what I want to do, spend 3 hours on the phone with someone reading from a script.
[04:03] <Aron_Figaro> Jowi: Yah.
[04:03] <clem_yeats> Necrocide : fat or ntfs ?
[04:03] <YukiIkyuta> Absenth, glad you found it!
[04:04] <Necrocide> I can not copy anything from it .(
[04:04] <rambo3> dont forget cop/paste e-mails
[04:04] <frogzoo> Absenth: don't understand how your kernel is 2.6.12.9 - I'm on breezy here, & kernel is 2.6.12.10
[04:04] <YukiIkyuta> Necrocide, oh, *that*.
[04:04] <Necrocide> NTFS
[04:04] <raimian> how do i setup internet to use my ics from my xp system??
[04:04] <YukiIkyuta> Necrocide, you should be able to copy directly from NTFS onto your filesystem.
[04:04] <Necrocide> hmm
[04:04] <YukiIkyuta> Necrocide, make sure the umask is set, it's mounted, et.c
[04:04] <clem_yeats> Necrocide : ntfs is read-only..
[04:04] <glick> excuse me does anyone here know alot about networking?
[04:04] <Jowi> Aron_Figaro: maybe go to network connections, right-click on the LAN, properties. should be a tab there with the firewall ("protect my computer")
[04:04] <illustre> YukiIkyuta, thanks   it worked, need to give laptop to wife see if she lives this new look :-)
[04:04] <YukiIkyuta> illustre, congrats. ^^
[04:05] <glick> im trying to subnet a class C network into 3 subnets with 32 hosts, 64 hosts, and 160 hosts
[04:05] <glick> so for the first routing entry i have this...
[04:05] <YukiIkyuta> glick, is this for CISCO?
[04:05] <YukiIkyuta> xP
[04:05] <LoPMX> hmm
[04:05] <frogzoo> glick: we don't do peeps homework here :D
[04:05] <clem_yeats> lol !
[04:05] <LoPMX> what packages do i need to install to compile sources?
[04:05] <glick> subnet 192.48.69.192 with a mask of 255.255.255.192
[04:05] <YukiIkyuta> LoPMX, build-essentials
[04:05] <glick> is that right?
[04:05] <Necrocide> Damn I thought I could copy some school stuff from there :P
[04:05] <LoPMX> YukiIkyuta: thanks
[04:05] <glick> for 32 hosts?
[04:05] <YukiIkyuta> glick, this definitely sounds like CISCO work to me. xP
[04:05] <frogzoo> glick: -> #cisco
[04:05] <Aron_Figaro> Jowi: That was the first thing I did
[04:06] <raimian> how do i set up my internet to access my ics frm my xp system???
[04:06] <frogzoo> !ics
[04:06] <ubotu> To share your intenet connection on eth0 with a LAN on eth1, make sure you don't have a firewall that interferes. Then run: iptables -t nat -A OUTPUT -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE; sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1  Ask me about <simple firewall>
[04:07] <Jowi> Aron_Figaro: then i have NO idea. Using samba here works great from the win2k box only after i disable zonealarm. before that win can't find any local nets
[04:07] <rambo3> i need to lean iptables some day
[04:07] <frogzoo> snap
[04:07] <LoPMX> i need to shag
[04:07] <deltron> lol
[04:07] <Aron_Figaro> Jowi: Yeah...figured it's trying to block itself. I figure the firewall's on and it's just not letting me mess with it.
[04:08] <clem_yeats> LoPMX : aptitude search shag
[04:08] <raimian> the internet comes from my xp system to my network, how do i setup ubuntu to access it
[04:08] <Jowi> Aron_Figaro: oh, and i added "hosts allow = 192.168.0." in /etc/samba/smb.conf to only allow connection from withing the lan
[04:08] <LoPMX> clem_yeats: thanks
[04:08] <clem_yeats> LoPMX : welcome.. lol
[04:08] <Nikusan> is the xp systems ip 192.168.0.1 raimian?
[04:08] <Aron_Figaro> Jowi: Yeah.
[04:08] <LoPMX> clem_yeats: ;] 
[04:08] <raimian> yes
[04:09] <clem_yeats> raimian : add default gw xp_ip_address
[04:09] <LoPMX> clem_yeats: found it, but i need new forked version - shag-twins
[04:09] <raimian> how do i do that??
[04:09] <clem_yeats> LoPMX : don't forget the condoms.. it's BETA version !!!
[04:09] <virus-13> salut a tous  qui parle  francais  ici
[04:09] <clem_yeats> raimian : just type it in a shell...
[04:09] <LoPMX> clem_yeats: will keep in mind, thanks
[04:09] <Jowi> Aron_Figaro: now with screenshots, see the bottom one: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/learnmore/icf.mspx
[04:09] <raimian> whats a shell??
[04:10] <clem_yeats> virus-13 : linux-fr pour le Francais..
[04:10] <Nikusan> raimian, applications -> accessories -> terminal
[04:10] <clem_yeats> raimian : a command line interpreter..
[04:11] <Aron_Figaro> Jowi: Did that. Like I said, there's no Advanced tab.
[04:11] <Jowi> Aron_Figaro: you're logged in as admin then?
[04:11] <illustre> YukiIkyuta, thanks again  it did install
[04:11] <raimian> it says add command not found
[04:11] <YukiIkyuta> illustre, no problems, I'm glad it works.
[04:12] <Nikusan> raimian, goto system -> administration -> networking
[04:12] <Absenth> YukiIkyuta, Seveas, frogzoo, soundray, Thank you all for your assistance in getting vmware up and running on my system.
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> raimian,  learning the shell --->  http://linuxcommand.org/learning_the_shell.php
[04:12] <rhubear> Which channel for asking question about smp kernel image not booting?
[04:12] <Aron_Figaro> Yeah. I'll create a new admin account and see if that fixes it.
[04:12] <frogzoo> cool
[04:12] <soundray> Absenth, glad it worked.
[04:13] <raimian> ok what do i do now??
[04:13] <clem_yeats> raimian : sudo route add default gw 192.168.0.1 (assuming this is your XP box IP)
[04:13] <mbruemmer> #ubuntu-de
[04:13] <Aron_Figaro> Jowi: Yeah, k, admin check just to make sure it didn't change my account since I created it.
[04:13] <Aron_Figaro> Jowi: I'm good as admin
[04:13] <nathanj> how do i seach pakcages and find out what package a shared lib is in?
[04:13] <christianp> hi all
[04:14] <clem_yeats> hi chris
[04:14] <raimian> where do i type that in??
[04:14] <markrian> Does Ubuntu come with the Luxi fonts? XFree86 comes with these by default, but it doesn't seem XOrg (or Ubuntu) does...? Can someone shed some light on this>?
[04:14] <christianp> i want to start a zope instance into a secondary disk, but this is the output: bash: ./runzope: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied
[04:14] <christianp> what's the matter?
[04:15] <clem_yeats> raimian : in a shell.. ...
[04:15] <frogzoo> nathanj dpkg -S if the lib is installed
[04:15] <YukiIkyuta> christianp, chmod +x ./runzope
[04:15] <clem_yeats> raimian : shell, CLI, command line, terminal, console.. <-- all the same
[04:15] <YukiIkyuta> Then try again.
[04:15] <CarinArr> markrian, if you check the information in synaptic on the package xfonts-scalable
[04:16] <CarinArr> markrian, it's because of licencing
[04:16] <jorgeu> how doI install libCg.so and libCgGL.so ?
[04:16] <clem_yeats> raimian : somewhere in the menus there's a link to "Terminal"
[04:16] <christianp> YukiIkyuta, i did chmod 777 -R to the whole folder, but nothing changes.. however i'll try, thanks
[04:16] <YukiIkyuta> christianp, that's a somewhat dangerous and probably not good idea xP. On the other hand ,you could just try "sh ./runzope"
[04:17] <markrian> CarinArr, ah thanks - for some reason it didn't occur to me to do 'apt-cache search luxi' :p
[04:17] <raimian> iv typed it in what do i do now??
[04:17] <clem_yeats> raimian : now... "ping google.com"
[04:17] <infernall> ok, i can disable pasv mode in vsftpd, but it still says it supports pasv when i conenct to it
[04:17] <CarinArr> markrian, the t1-xfree86-nonfree and ttf-xfree86-nonfree has the luxi fonts tho
[04:17] <MP3yeur> hello ! (french user, no response on ubuntu-fr)
[04:17] <markrian> CarinArr, yup :) apt-cache is useful
[04:18] <Nikusan> raimian, you need to find out the DNS server that your xp machine is connecting to
[04:18] <christianp> YukiIkyuta, with sh... all was right
[04:18] <frogzoo> MP3yeur: bonjour - ca va?
[04:18] <raimian> it says unknown host
[04:18] <CarinArr> markrian, :D
[04:18] <MP3yeur> i ve a problem with my color laser printer
[04:18] <Nikusan> raimian, that's because you need to find out the DNS server that your xp machine is connecting to
[04:18] <MP3yeur> yes man !
[04:18] <christianp> YukiIkyuta, but don't worry for security, i'm testing it in a loca machine
[04:18] <Jowi> raimian: try "ping -c 5 216.239.39.104"
[04:18] <YukiIkyuta> christianp, ah, yes, but still, there's no excuse for sloppiness! ^^
[04:18] <christianp> YukiIkyuta, :-)
[04:18] <frogzoo> qu'est ce que le probleme?
[04:19] <clem_yeats> raimian : alternatively you can ping this : "ping 212.27.32.177"
[04:19] <MP3yeur> i search a driver for epson Color Page EPL-C8200
[04:19] <raimian> that worked
[04:19] <clem_yeats> raimian : which one ?
[04:19] <MP3yeur> je cherche un pilote pour cette imprimante
[04:19] <raimian> the first one
[04:19] <Jowi> raimian: so your DNS is not working. your internet connection is fine
[04:19] <Nikusan> raimian, the pings work, but the machine cant resolve domain names like "google.com"
[04:19] <clem_yeats> ping -c 5 216.239.39.104 that one raimian ?
[04:19] <raimian> yep
[04:20] <clem_yeats> ok
[04:20] <YukiIkyuta> !fr
[04:20] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[04:20] <clem_yeats> then you need to set your DNS.. open /etc/resolv.conf
[04:20] <Nikusan> raimian, you should be able to find the dns server you need in the tcp-ip connection settings for the internet connection on the xp machine
[04:20] <MP3yeur> yes but no response
[04:20] <YukiIkyuta> I see ..
[04:20] <infernall> I hate ftp.
[04:20] <YukiIkyuta> infernall, that's something we can all agree on.
[04:20] <Jowi> raimian: sudo network-admin. click on the DNS tab and put in the DNS to your isp
[04:20] <YukiIkyuta> It seems to be even worse than HTTP at doing its job; file transfer.
[04:20] <infernall> wouldn't be bad if server and client didn't ignore my port settings
[04:21] <YukiIkyuta> xP
[04:21] <YukiIkyuta> The protocol itself is simply not designed for firewalls.
[04:21] <frogzoo> MP3yeur: peut etre http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-BJC-8200
[04:21] <MP3yeur> if you can help me to find a driver or another tips to use my epson color laser
[04:21] <CarinArr> i can't remember the last time i used ftp
[04:21] <clem_yeats>  sudo network-admin, lol .. using the click:// protocol ? :)
[04:21] <raimian> my xp system has it all set to obtsin atomaticly
[04:21] <infernall> i need to use FTP with specific ports, thats the problem.
[04:21] <MP3yeur> frogzoo : merci !
[04:22] <frogzoo> bon chance
[04:22] <clem_yeats> raimian : you can try using your XP IP address as the DNS.. or 212.27.32.177 and 212.27.32.176
[04:22] <blin> alguien podria ayudarme con ndiswrapper y ubuntu???
[04:22] <MP3yeur> a va tre drole encore - it will be fun !
[04:22] <CarinArr> !es
[04:22] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:22] <raimian> where do i put that in??
[04:22] <frogzoo> bien sur
[04:22] <clem_yeats> blin : no se habla espanol aqui... puede decir su pregunta en ingles ?
[04:23] <blin> channel #ubuntu-es
[04:23] <Jowi> raimian: either in DNS tab in network-admin or /etc/resolv.conf
[04:23] <clem_yeats> frogzoo : en Anglais s'il vous plait..
[04:23] <frogzoo> oh all right clem_yeats - party pooper
[04:23] <clem_yeats> raimian : sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf
[04:23] <MP3yeur> clem_yeats translation is not bad ;-)
[04:23] <Jowi> raimian: if you edit resolv.conf by hand you add a dns server like this one "nameserver 212.27.54.252"
[04:24] <blin> y como voy a ubuntu-es
[04:24] <clem_yeats> raimian : then remove the lines beginning with nameserver
[04:24] <christianp> YukiIkyuta, but only typing sh ./runzope it works!!!! What's exactly the matter? a path problem?
[04:24] <blin> #ubuntu-es
[04:24] <frogzoo> hey clem_yeats, what's french for sudo? *runs away*
[04:25] <YukiIkyuta> christianp, typically, a permissions problem. Look carefully at the permissions of runzope
[04:26] <raimian> still doesnt work
[04:26] <christianp> YukiIkyuta, runzope has -rwxrwxrwx . Is it enough?
[04:27] <Jowi> raimian: can you ping the dns servers you have? if not, then your isp dns servers are down at the moment.
[04:27] <YukiIkyuta> christianp, indeed, it should run from typing "./runzope" alone.
[04:28] <raimian> my isp must be working im talkig to you through it
[04:28] <frogzoo> Jowi: careful - not all DNS servers ping these days - best to test with nslookup
[04:28] <Jowi> frogzoo: never had that problem :)
[04:29] <nathanj> frogzoo: ./avi-ogminfo: error while loading shared libraries: libavcodec.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:29] <christianp> YukiIkyuta, no. :-(
[04:29] <christianp> it says: bash: ./runzope: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied
[04:29] <Jowi> raimian: well, you're not using dns to chat. can you ping them or not?
[04:29] <YukiIkyuta> christianp, that's really, really weird! I'm not sure why that is.
[04:29] <raimian> what do i type to ping them
[04:29] <Jowi> raimian: "ping -c 5 dnsaddress.2.3.4"
[04:30] <christianp> YukiIkyuta, ok, thanks anyway
[04:30] <Jowi> raimian: my dns is 212.27.54.252 so i would type "ping -c 5 212.27.54.252"
[04:30] <raimian> i dont know that my dns is, im new to computers
[04:31] <Jowi> raimian: you need to find out. should be in the papers from your isp.
[04:31] <MP3yeur> peut-on (mme si a fait bricolage) utiliser un pilote d'impression windows sous linux ?
[04:31] <frogzoo> MP3yeur: c'nest pas possible
[04:31] <Jowi> MP3yeur: not likely.
[04:31] <MP3yeur> sh...t !
[04:32] <Jowi> :)
[04:32] <potus> hello, im tring to create a system backup of / on /.  i am entering the following command ' tar cvjpf archive.tar.bz2 / ' it keeps erroring out when it tries to add itself to archive.. how can i prevent this.. i tried all kinds off --exclude --exclude-file commands.. someone please help
[04:32] <Jowi> that's not a french word! hehe
[04:32] <MP3yeur> im in the ....
[04:32] <xadux> hey if I have configured sendmail, I can send emails to aol.com?, because when i try it, i have an error telling me that I cant send it...
[04:32] <raimian> nope it was all atomatic
[04:32] <Sammy76> anyone think they can help me get this to install
[04:32] <Jowi> raimian: then all you can do is call them and ask.
[04:32] <frogzoo> potus: to backup / - you need to catch device files in /dev/  - tar can't handle these - use cpio/dump instead
[04:33] <davidwinter_> hey all
[04:33] <MP3yeur> i will destroy this epson ...
[04:33] <potus> frogzoo: it did it fine.. the /dev/..
[04:33] <davidwinter_> is there an apache2 gui?
[04:33] <Nikusan> raimian, you can find the dns in the connection settings in xp, I'm sure of it
[04:33] <raimian> its all set to automatic
[04:33] <potus> frogzoo: can u give me a cpio backup string. i spent 4 hours messing with man yesterday with tar i dont think i got it in me for cpio =/
[04:34] <Nikusan> raimian, even if it was all automatic, the primary and secondary dns ips will be in there
[04:34] <MP3yeur> can i use another service that CUPS ?
[04:34] <frogzoo> potus: try just --exclude=/tmp & do it from /tmp
[04:34] <MP3yeur> much better if possible ?
[04:34] <Nikusan> raimian, try looking around in the tcp-ip stuff, there will be another tab or an advanced button or something
[04:35] <xadux> hey if I have configured sendmail, I can send emails to aol.com?, because when i try it, i have an error telling me that I cant send it...
[04:35] <raimian> iv tryed there is nothing in the dns bit
[04:36] <Dr_Willis> MP3yeur,  cups is becomng the standard printing system. If theres one better - i dont know of one.
[04:36] <potus> frogzoo: this look right? ' tar cvjp --exclude=/tmp -f archive.tar.bz2 / '
[04:37] <frogzoo> potus: looks ok to me...
[04:38] <whiteknight> hey all
[04:38] <NightSkies> hi :P
[04:38] <eno> does anyone know of a webpage for setting up php in ubuntu?
[04:38] <whiteknight> gosh this channels grown since i was last properly on it
[04:39] <YukiIkyuta> whiteknight, this is the typical load.
[04:39] <raimian> ive rang my isp and got my dns address.
[04:40] <whiteknight> YukiIkyuta, along time ago it wasn't :-p
[04:40] <frogzoo> MP3yeur: what was your model no again?
[04:40] <raimian> do i go system admin networking, and put it it there??
[04:41] <YukiIkyuta> whiteknight, must've been. ^^
[04:41] <whiteknight> hehe
[04:41] <Jowi> raimian: yep, in the dns tab
[04:42] <marsh> hello evrybuddy!!!
[04:42] <Jowi> hi marsh
[04:42] <raimian> i still cant access the internet
[04:42] <marsh> does anyone know how to reset a password if you don't know the passwd to start with? (without reboot/startup disk)?
[04:43] <marsh> hey Jowi
[04:43] <Jowi> raimian: give me one of the dns numbers
[04:43] <raimian> 211.50.160.100
[04:44] <frogzoo> marsh what's the problem?
[04:44] <raimian> or 212.50.160.100  or 213.249.130.100
[04:44] <Jowi> raimian: looks as if it is active. wierd. can you ping it (i can't)?
[04:45] <marsh> frogzoo, i've forgotten my username password - trying to log in from xp (using samba), but dont have my password.
[04:45] <raimian> how do i ping it?
[04:45] <Jowi> raimian: ah, the 213.249.130.100 works!
[04:46] <Jowi> raimian: ping -c 5 213.249.130.100
[04:46] <ulaas> any one else have a disappearing applications menu in dapper?
[04:46] <ulaas> it quickly shows itself and then disappears.
[04:46] <marsh> frog - I realise that i'm not going to be able to do it even WITH the passwd (a problem with samba i'm trying to solve) but resetting it and starting with a clean plate seems somehow logical!
[04:47] <neil_m> Everytime Chuck Norris roundhouse kicks someone an angel gets its wings. But Chuck Norris hates angels. So everytime an angel gets its wings it also gets a roundhouse kick from Chuck Norris.
[04:47] <raimian> what do i do now??
[04:47] <Absenth> I'm likely missing something simple here, but what would be the best way to unzip an actual .zip file from the command line?
[04:47] <Elektrochelovek> cardinfo shows my ericsson gc85 egde card as ttyS2, but when i try minicom --noinit /dev/ttyS2 i got no responce;/ Whats the problem, how to debug?
[04:47] <YukiIkyuta> neil_m, concise.
[04:47] <Jowi> raimian: add 213.249.130.100 into the DNS tab
[04:47] <YukiIkyuta> Absenth, unzip! Install it if you've not got it.
[04:47] <raimian> i cant ping it
[04:47] <Jowi> raimian: you can't? i could.
[04:48] <raimian> it says network unreachable
[04:48] <michuk> hello. one simple question: How do I display some remote X application on my Ubuntu machine?
[04:48] <Jowi> raimian: you have something seriously wrong somewhere. restart that box and try again. that last dns you gave me works fine.
[04:48] <neil_m> 4Chuck Norris was the one who taught Neo kung-fu.
[04:49] <michuk> I'd like to export DISPLAY to my Ubuntu machine on a remote server, and then start some X app. I enabled connections via "xhost +" but it doesnt work
[04:49] <soc> hi! i have a little problem: i upgraded breezy to dapper, after the upgrade i copied the the ati-fglrx-drivers to /usr/lib/xorg/modules (because of the modularized xorg7). everything works fine, but i cant get the ati-drivers working, it renders with mesa! could someone help me? (i know that dapper is currently unsupported :-) thx!
[04:50] <frogzoo> michuk: just use ssh - it takes care of redirecting x for you
[04:50] <StyXman> hi all
[04:50] <michuk> locally, I can run an X app from let's say, console 1 and it displays on my graphical display (7)
[04:50] <StyXman> I downloaded the orig.tar.gz and .dsc file of linux-source-2.6.15 from dapper
[04:50] <michuk> but not remotely
[04:50] <Gran_Maestro> high everybody, just installed breezy-ppc sound and airport not working, can anybody suggest
[04:50] <frogzoo> michuk: ssh
[04:50] <StyXman> and I'm trying to compile it in breezy
[04:51] <eno> do you think if I installed Ubuntu server that php would come preconfigured
[04:51] <StyXman> and it fails
[04:51] <eno> ie LAMP
[04:51] <skora> Gran_Maestro, I'm not sure if airport works with PPC yet
[04:51] <michuk> frogzoo: I do use ssh to connect to that remote location
[04:51] <Gran_Maestro> it does with the live CD <(
[04:51] <skora> actually I Think those drivers were just reverse engineered with the past week or so, AFIAK
[04:51] <skora> hmm..
[04:51] <frogzoo> michuk: then just run your x app - everything else is done for you
[04:51] <Gran_Maestro> skora dei work on the live CD
[04:52] <eno> is ubuntu server a different ISO?
[04:52] <BlueDevil> eno: no
[04:52] <skora> ahh
[04:52] <frogzoo> eno nope
[04:52] <michuk> > xterm
[04:52] <michuk> 
[04:52] <michuk> xterm Xt error: Can't open display:
[04:52] <frogzoo> arrgh... - my eyes!!
[04:52] <eno> what the hell then, I am trying it
[04:52] <hmpedersen> Greetings..
[04:52] <eno> later folks
[04:52] <BlueDevil> eno: you boot it with "server" at the boot prompt
[04:52] <Gran_Maestro> skor I get two internet cards shown up
[04:52] <eno> thanks, Duke
[04:52] <Gran_Maestro> but no Airport
[04:52] <michuk> and when I set DISPLAY to myhost:0 it still doesnt work
[04:52] <skora> what ones
[04:53] <Gran_Maestro> eth0 eth1
[04:53] <skora> !airport
[04:53] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, skora
[04:53] <skora> Gran_Maestro, do you know how to use pastebin ?
[04:53] <Gran_Maestro> !airport
[04:53] <Gran_Maestro> nope
[04:53] <hmpedersen> Does anyone know how to get smb working properly on breezy? Every computer that tries to connect has to logon, but no username and password is accepted..
[04:53] <frogzoo> michuk: try xclock
[04:54] <yatesy> hmpedersen: did you set them up using smbpasswd?
[04:54] <skora> well, go to the command line, type in ifconfig
[04:54] <skora> and then copy and paste those results into http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/
[04:54] <michuk> frogzoo: same error
[04:54] <hmpedersen> Sorry.. Thanks Yatesy.. I've been away from linux too long :)
[04:54] <skora> and then post the link
[04:54] <michuk> btw, the remote machine is Suse Standard Edition 8.0
[04:54] <michuk> if that matters
[04:54] <yatesy> hmpedersen: np
[04:54] <Gran_Maestro> skora, if that one is for me I dont get it
[04:54] <gesacseduc> ola
[04:55] <hmpedersen> Got an old laptop without hdd, decided to install ubuntu when i finally got an hdd for it :)
[04:55] <gesacseduc> algum fala portugues?
[04:55] <frogzoo> michuk: dunno - usually just works
[04:55] <skora> Gran_Maestro, do you know how to use the command line ?
[04:55] <Gran_Maestro> yup
[04:55] <freelove> what does "Configuring LTSP chroot" mean?
[04:55] <skora> go to a terminal, type in the command: ifconfig
[04:56] <Gran_Maestro> ok
[04:56] <michuk> frogzoo: I know :) That's why I'm asking
[04:56] <skora> and some results will come up, and copy and patste them into a box on that link for paste - http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/
[04:56] <michuk> but I had this problem with ubuntu forever
[04:56] <skora> then one you submit the post, it will create another link
[04:56] <michuk> it doesnt seem to like to open any remote X apps
[04:56] <skora> and paste that link into this room
[04:57] <soundray> michuk, are you using ssh -X ?
[04:57] <michuk> nope
[04:57] <soundray> michuk, well, try that then.
[04:57] <michuk> tadam :)
[04:57] <michuk> thanks a lot
[04:57] <michuk> I usually use solaris machines
[04:57] <michuk> and there no -X option is needed
[04:58] <soundray> michuk, you can configure it to use -X by default in /etc/ssh/ssh_config I think.
[04:58] <frogzoo> michuk: I'm guessing /etc/ssh/ssh_config ForwardX11 might help
[04:58] <soundray> michuk, frogzoo has the specifics for you :)
[04:59] <Gran_Maestro> skora, it-s done
[04:59] <michuk> soundray: yeah, thanks. I'll just use -X :)
[04:59] <Gran_Maestro> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5510
[05:00] <ubuntu_> hello, when installing ubuntu on my laptop it inquired which xserver i wanted to run.  i choose the 1280x800 (my native res) however, once everything is loaded the high res i can pick is 1024x768.   any ideas?
[05:00] <Gran_Maestro> if I type iwconfig it replay no wireless extensions
[05:01] <Gran_Maestro> skora, did you get that one?
[05:01] <tristan> ubuntu_ : do you have an ATI graphic card?
[05:01] <Arrik> yes,  i've heard they're not so great with linux
[05:01] <frogzoo> Gran_Maestro: 1st off - upgrade to breezy
[05:01] <tristan> Arrik : do you have an ATI graphic card?
[05:01] <Arrik> Yes.
[05:02] <sic666> ciao a tutti
[05:02] <sic666> hi
[05:02] <Gran_Maestro> frogzoo, I am on breezy right now
[05:02] <skora> Gran_Maestro, i'm i see the log
[05:02] <testmachine> awww
[05:02] <testmachine> ati :((((
[05:02] <skora> im seeing the log right now
[05:02] <frogzoo> Gran_Maestro: go into network app & enable wireless
[05:02] <testmachine> i have the same problem
[05:02] <tristan> Arrik : then you have to download the latest ATI drivers on ATI website and iinstall it. After, I can give you my xorg.conf part to make the 1200x800 resolution work
[05:02] <testmachine> with my fscking ati
[05:02] <poseidon> hello
[05:02] <juako> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[05:02] <Gran_Maestro> frogzoo, hold on
[05:02] <testmachine> tristan: but no opengl
[05:03] <frogzoo> Gran_Maestro: top right on task bar
[05:03] <Arrik> tristan: ok, i'll go get the drivers
[05:03] <poseidon> has anybody installed Firefox 1.5? how can I install it?
[05:03] <lohn> How to log as root/
[05:03] <Gran_Maestro> frogzoo, thats the problem its not here
[05:03] <tristan> testmachine : what's that?
[05:03] <testmachine> tristan: 3D graphix
[05:04] <testmachine> graphics even
[05:04] <Gran_Maestro> frogzoo, sorry there
[05:04] <juako> anybody knows how install freetype fonts????????
[05:04] <frogzoo> Gran_Maestro: just click configure - you'll then see wireless
[05:04] <poseidon> is there a guide to install Firefox 1.5?
[05:04] <frogzoo> Gran_Maestro: now click enable
[05:04] <skora> !firefox
[05:04] <ubotu> skora: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[05:04] <raimian> nope i still cant access the internet
[05:04] <tristan> testmachine : how do you know if openGL is enabled?
[05:04] <poseidon> !firefox
[05:04] <juako> anybody knows how to install freetype fonts????????
[05:04] <Gran_Maestro> frogzoo, i feel real dumb
[05:04] <testmachine> tristan: glxgears
[05:05] <Gran_Maestro> frogzoo, I cant see it
[05:05] <testmachine> of fg_lxgears
[05:05] <testmachine> or something
[05:05] <frogzoo> Gran_Maestro: can you see eth0 ?
[05:05] <testmachine> glxgears will show FPS
[05:05] <testmachine> and glxinfo
[05:05] <tristan> testmachine : when I do glxgears I see the wheel turning. Does that mean that openGL is enabled?
[05:05] <frogzoo> glx_gears
[05:05] <lohn> Does Anyone know how to log as root/
[05:05] <Gran_Maestro> frogzoo, yup
[05:05] <michuk> sudo su
[05:05] <testmachine> tristan: how many fps is it giving
[05:06] <frogzoo> sry fgl_glxgears
[05:06] <michuk> lohn: sudo su or sudo passwd (and set password)
[05:06] <testmachine> indeed frogzoo
[05:06] <tonyyarusso> juako: Have you tried just copying them to the fonts:/// location like a truetype?
[05:06] <tristan> testmachine : it is laggy but doesn't say any fps
[05:06] <Gran_Maestro> frogzoo, I am no newbee, it just desnt show up I get two eth cards
[05:06] <FunnyLookinHat> Anyone know when the ubuntu breezy repos will have Firefox 1.5 ??
[05:06] <Ng> they won't
[05:06] <Gran_Maestro> frogzoo, eth0 and eth1
[05:06] <frogzoo> Gran_Maestro: k, then check dmesg for the driver loading
[05:06] <FunnyLookinHat> Ng, ??  Why not?
[05:06] <testmachine> tristan: you are opening it from a terminal?
[05:06] <Ng> but it'll be backported at some point
[05:06] <Gran_Maestro> frogzoo, right
[05:06] <lohn> michuk - Thanks a lot!!
[05:07] <tristan> testmachine : yes
[05:07] <Arrik> tristan: thanks for the help, i'm actually just testing ubuntu in VMware on top of windows to check for initial compatibility.  if drivers and a config file area all that are necessary to get everything working, i'll perma install ubuntu on a dedicated partition
[05:07] <FunnyLookinHat> Ng, Do you know when backports will support it?
[05:07] <testmachine> will you paste some output
[05:07] <testmachine> from your terminal?
[05:07] <Ng> FunnyLookinHat: the ubuntu policy is not to introduce new versions of things after a release, only important bug fixes go in
[05:07] <Ng> FunnyLookinHat: no
[05:07] <tonyyarusso> FunnyLookinHat: You can still get it from the FF web site and do it yourself if you want.
[05:07] <skora> AFIAK, it's actually not going to happen
[05:07] <FunnyLookinHat> Ng,  Oh ok...  that makes sense.
[05:07] <glick> hey does anyone know anything about CIDR
[05:07] <testmachine> tristan: will you paste some output from the terminal
[05:07] <tristan> Arrik : you might have to make a special boot to be able to install ubuntu but I don't know if it is because of ATI card
[05:07] <FunnyLookinHat> tonyyarusso, yea, I guess I'll do it that way, I was just hoping for a synaptic install w/o problems
[05:07] <skora> ng stole my thunder ^_^
[05:08] <tristan> tristan@Duran:~$ glxgears
[05:08] <tristan> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:08] <tristan> X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
[05:08] <testmachine> heh
[05:08] <testmachine> ok
[05:08] <tristan> so?
[05:08] <tonyyarusso> FunnyLookinHat: Yeah, that is always nice.  However, I just did it, and there were no issues for me.
[05:08] <testmachine> opengl is prolly not really working
[05:08] <Gran_Maestro> frogzoo, does it need to be compiled in the kernel? problem is I am not using standard kernel as I needed fw support
[05:08] <frogzoo> Gran_Maestro: module is fine
[05:08] <tristan> testmachine : I don't know of any way to enable both the good resolution and the openGL
[05:09] <tonyyarusso> FunnyLookinHat: See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for instructions beforehand.
[05:09] <Arrik> tristan: i'll figure it all out when i do the dedicated install, i just needed someone to point me in the right direction
[05:09] <frogzoo> Gran_Maestro: but you also need the ieee80211 module as well
[05:09] <skora> hey, im trying to figure out why i can get my internet to work on the live cd but no on my install
[05:09] <Gran_Maestro> frogzoo, insmod airport not found
[05:09] <skora> it did before, I seriously don't know what I did to bork it up
[05:09] <tristan> Arrik : are you on Ubuntu live CD?
[05:09] <frogzoo> Gran_Maestro: recompile I'm guessing
[05:10] <frogzoo> skora: u on dsl?
[05:10] <skora> cable
[05:10] <tonyyarusso> FunnyLookinHat: I did get the "Firefox could not install this item because of a failure in Chrome Registration." message, but only the first time, after closing and restarting FF it was fine.
[05:10] <frogzoo> skora: click on network settings top right & enable dhcp maybe?
[05:10] <skora> im trying to access my logs now, but my drive isn't mounted in the live cd
[05:10] <Xtreme984> where can I get a working Partition Magic???
[05:11] <Gran_Maestro> frogzoo, runnin ubutnu on a mac is a pain in the butt :(
[05:11] <Arrik> tristan: no, i installed ubuntu in VMware, it's all installed, just running on a virtual machine in windows
[05:11] <tonyyarusso> poningru, You by the computer again now?
[05:11] <skora> frogzoo, i checked that out before, I got that done.
[05:11] <ydnar> hello everyone.
[05:11] <tonyyarusso> Xtreme984: That depends on whether you mean legally or not.
[05:11] <Arrik> BRB
[05:11] <tristan> Arrik : OK so the only trouble you have is with your screen resolution
[05:11] <skora> btw, thanks for helping frogzoo - you multitasker :)
[05:11] <testmachine> tristan: it wont work
[05:11] <frogzoo> skora: ifconfig?
[05:11] <Arrik> tristan: yea
[05:11] <testmachine> probably
[05:11] <Arrik> brb
[05:11] <tonyyarusso> Xtreme984: Legally, in a store or from the Symantec web site.
[05:11] <Xtreme984> tonyyarusso I don't care legal or not.... as long as it works...
[05:11] <Xtreme984> that's not gonna work <_<
[05:11] <Chromin> can someone please tell me why i can only go to like 5 internet pages. and then have the comp freeze?
[05:12] <tristan> Arrik : so as tesmachine says you won't be able to have 3D graphics properly rendred. It will be laggy
[05:12] <tonyyarusso> Xtreme984: Otherwise, I know at one point there was a copy floating around in some of the bittorrent indexes.
[05:12] <skora> frogzoo, im trying to access my ifconfig log file that i saved on my home directory, but i cant mount my drive [its not done automatically, and i forget how to] 
[05:12] <Xtreme984> tonyyarusso where's that?
[05:12] <Gran_Maestro> frogzoo, looks like I have quite a bit of work to fix this one
[05:12] <tonyyarusso> Xtreme984: Which?
[05:12] <frogzoo> skora: no no - just the ifconfig command
[05:12] <Xtreme984> the bittorrent indexes
[05:12] <skora> right now ?
[05:12] <cricek> Hmm how can I turn on UDMA on my DVD drive ?
[05:12] <frogzoo> Gran_Maestro: doesn't look pretty - shame, 386 it just works
[05:12] <skora> on my live cd
[05:13] <frogzoo> cricek: hdparm -d iirc
[05:13] <tristan> testmachine : that is what I had understood from my viewing on some BBS
[05:13] <architx> man hdparm cricek
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> !dma
[05:13] <frogzoo> cricek: hdparm -d1 /dev/hdx
[05:13] <cricek> yeah I used suse before
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> type !DMA and read the bot message cricek
[05:13] <Gran_Maestro> frogzoo, yup problem is that standard kernel has no ieee1293 support hence I am using another one
[05:13] <Chromin> can someone please tell me why i can only go to like 5 internet pages. and then have the comp freeze? this has happened sence the first time i started using ubuntu.
[05:13] <cricek> frogzoo, that's just for DMA not for UDMA
[05:14] <cricek> !DAM
[05:14] <ubotu> Not a clue, cricek
[05:14] <cricek> !DMA
[05:14] <skora> my ifconfig on the live cd - http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5511
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:14] <skora> !mount
[05:14] <ubotu> mount is, like, totally, the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[05:14] <Gran_Maestro> frogzoo, will do my homework however I am real suprised. How to check if airport module is available?
[05:15] <tonyyarusso> Xtreme984: There isn't just one.  The official site is bittorrent.com, but I think that one has since stopped listing illegal items, so you might try torrentspy.com, suprnova.org, mybittorrent.com, mininova.org, and thepiratebay.org.
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> heh - has there been a crackdown on some of those torrent sites lately?
[05:15] <skora> Xtreme984, you can use the ubuntu partitioner
[05:15] <skora> Dr_Willis, yeah
[05:15] <Xtreme984> Skora, that doesn't work, I just want to resize my NTFS partition, not delete it
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> skora,  :) bummer.
[05:16] <Xtreme984> I don't want to lose all my files
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> skora,  guess they will go back to irc channels and shareing torrent files that way.
[05:16] <gary_> Hi, can someone tell me a little about Ubuntu tree structures?
[05:16] <skora> Dr_Willis, for those pirates though, when there's a will, there's a way
[05:16] <tonyyarusso> Xtreme984: The install partitioner can resize without damage.
[05:16] <sethk> Xtreme984, back it up, resize it, and restore it
[05:16] <skora> :P
[05:16] <skora> sethk, there's an easier solution than that
[05:16] <Xtreme984> tonyyarusso, I've tried that earlier... it wasn't working
[05:17] <sethk> resizing NTFS partitions is extremely dangerous
[05:17] <sethk> skora, not a reliable one
[05:17] <Xtreme984> sethk, I have no means of backing up around 40gbs of data
[05:17] <sethk> skora, you would be crazy to resize an NTFS partition without a backup
[05:17] <tonyyarusso> Xtreme984: Ah.  This would be why backups are always handy in general I suppose.
[05:17] <sethk> Xtreme984, then buy a drive.  they are cheap
[05:17] <Chromin> can anyone tell me why i can only browze a limmited amount of internet pages before ubuntu will not alow me to go to anymore pages?
[05:17] <skora> seth_k|away, true
[05:17] <Xtreme984> sethk, don't have the money atm...
[05:17] <Gran_Maestro> ok another question: sound not working in breezy-ppc any suggestion?
[05:17] <frogzoo> skora: can you ping your router?
[05:17] <gary_> Hi, can someone tell me a little about Ubuntu tree structures?
[05:18] <Amaranth> sethk: If you truely can't lose the data you'd be crazy to resize any partition but 99% of the time nothing happens.
[05:18] <hmpedersen> how do i restart smb?
[05:18] <tristan> Chromin : don't know. Is it only happening when on internet? What browser do you use?
[05:18] <tonyyarusso> Xtreme984: Do you actually need all 40G?  I went through a similar size drive, and determined I only needed about four CDs worth of it, plus the system disks.
[05:18] <sethk> Amaranth, well, I certainly would never resize any partition that isn't backed up
[05:18] <sethk> Amaranth, but then again, I would _never_ even have a partition of any size that isn't backed up.
[05:18] <Xtreme984> tonyyarusso, yes it's truly necessary
[05:19] <sethk> Amaranth, but my data is all business, nothing that I can tolerate losing
[05:19] <tonyyarusso> hmpedersen: I think it's something like /etc/init.d/samba restart; let me look for a wiki page...
[05:19] <skora> frogzoo, i can ping other sites when i'm on
[05:19] <skora> but i cant connect to IRC, gaim, or any other service
[05:19] <frogzoo> skora: so what's the problem? just no www?
[05:20] <gary_> Hi, can someone tell me a little about Ubuntu tree structures?
[05:20] <skora> and when i was on a few mins ago on the other sys, i was able to ping google and yahoo, but i tried to ping slashdot, and i only received one result
[05:20] <Chromin> tristan : i use the one that came with v5.10. mozilla firefox.
[05:20] <skora> gary_, i've seen your q a couple times, sry no one has answered yet :/
[05:20] <frogzoo> skora: no big deal - a lot of the big web servers don't respond to ping
[05:20] <skora> k
[05:21] <tristan> Chromin : did you try to reinstall it?
[05:21] <Xtreme984> gary_, what exactly do you mean??? I think it's the same on all linux systems
[05:21] <gary_> I'll wait
[05:21] <davidwinter_> hi all. how can I enable ssh?
[05:21] <gary_> I am a newbee, and I need to find the kernel sources, i just cant find em
[05:21] <hmpedersen> Thanx.. As i said, ive been away from linux for far too long..
[05:21] <Jowi> davidwinter_: sudo apt-get install ssh
[05:21] <Xtreme984> gary_, sorry can't help you on that
[05:21] <Chromin> ive reinstalled the whole ubuntu program like 8 times. and it still does the same thing
[05:21] <tonyyarusso> hmpedersen: Yeah, sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart, or reload to load the conf.
[05:22] <davidwinter_> thanks Jowi
[05:22] <gary_> I'm trtying tio install vpn client
[05:22] <Jowi> gary_: if you have downloaded them from synaptic they will be in /usr/src
[05:22] <deFrysk> gary_, linux sources
[05:22] <tristan> Chromin : and you do no hav any trouble except with firefox...?
[05:22] <gary_> I'll look, thanks guys
[05:23] <davidwinter_> is there a way I can connect via vnc if I'm not currently logged onto my ubuntu machine?
[05:23] <Chromin> tristan : not realy. just when i try and use firefox. i can go about 5 diferent pages before it does not load anymore pages.
[05:23] <tristan> Chromin : did you try to use another browser?
[05:24] <davidwinter_> the only current way of connecting to ubuntu is when I'm actually logged in to it
[05:24] <Chromin> tristan : no. not sure if any other browzer works with ubuntu. kinda new to this operating system
[05:25] <tristan> Try to install opera and run it. That way we will know if it comes from Firefox or from another thing
[05:25] <gary_> I looked in /usr/src but it is empty, even hidden is nothing
[05:25] <Chromin> where can i get opera?
[05:25] <tonyyarusso> Chromin: There are bunches of browsers that will work.
[05:25] <hmpedersen> Finally :)
[05:25] <hmpedersen> Thanks, Tony.. Finally got it up running..
[05:25] <tonyyarusso> Chromin: I believe it's in the universe repo, or something like that.
[05:25] <tonyyarusso> hmpedersen: Great.
[05:25] <tristan> tonyyarusso : do you have any idea where his problem comes from
[05:26] <markku> hellou
[05:26] <tristan> Chromin : sudo apt-get install opera
[05:26] <tonyyarusso> tristan: Not a clue.
[05:26] <rudiz> wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[05:26] <hmpedersen> I hadnt noticed, the security was commented out, so allways defaulted to 'user'
[05:26] <Chromin> well whats the best browser that i can use?
[05:26] <hmpedersen> (allways uses share in closed networks)
[05:26] <markku> jou
[05:26] <deFrysk> Chromin, safest way is to install opera-static.deb from opera.com
[05:26] <tristan> Chromin : I would have said firefox but it seems you cant
[05:26] <cristian> Que folia  essa ?
[05:26] <cristian> Rene vc est por aki ?
[05:27] <patconnexion> 02 hello .. how can i configure the user privilege for FTP??
[05:27] <rudiz> ftp://ftp.opera.com
[05:27] <rudiz> for the static version
[05:27] <patconnexion> yes
[05:27] <Jowi> Chromin: alot of people like konqueror. i only use firefox though (1.0.7)
[05:27] <hmpedersen> I'm off again.. May the Tux Force be with you all :D
[05:27] <tonyyarusso> Chromin: Firefox is definitely my first choice, but opera does very well too.
[05:27] <giga> hey everyone I hate to ask you all but could I have some help with my ipw2200?
[05:27] <Chromin> ahh. im dling opera now. i will try that
[05:28] <Chromin> if that does not work. ill let you all know..
[05:28] <giga> im following this guide
[05:28] <giga> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623
[05:28] <Jowi> christian: #ubuntu-es
[05:28] <LoPMX>  is there any os-x like dock for gnome?
[05:28] <tonyyarusso> Chromin: I wasn't following the beginning of this; did you already try just reinstalling firefox?
[05:28] <Chromin> but theoreticly. if it does not work what could be the problem with it.
[05:28] <deFrysk> Chromin, also read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser?highlight=%28opera%29
[05:28] <tristan> LoPMX : yes and I am using it
[05:29] <Jowi> LoPMX: not that i've found. there should be one for kde
[05:29] <LoPMX> tristan:  which is?
[05:29] <Jowi> tristan: which one?
[05:29] <LoPMX> hmm, e17 seems to be nice, pretty os x like
[05:29] <Chromin> well tony ive reinstaled the complete operating system min of 8 times already because it has done it from the begining
[05:29] <giga> hey everyone I hate to ask you all but could I have some help with my ipw2200?
[05:30] <Jowi> LoPMX: it is very nice. but not very stable last time i tried it (3-4 months ago)
[05:30] <tristan> LoPMX, Jowi : http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=13548
[05:30] <tonyyarusso> Chromin: Ick.  Well at least we know that route's been fully explored!
[05:30] <tristan> LoPMX, Jowi : you'll have to get the icon themes separately
[05:30] <Chromin> um. it wont let me open opera. it is giving me an error
[05:30] <giga> im at this step "sudo sh remove-old"
[05:31] <tristan> Chromin : which is?
[05:31] <LoPMX> tristan: ok, we'll see
[05:31] <Chromin> archive not supported
[05:31] <giga> can anyone help me please?
[05:31] <Jowi> tristan: that is the most osx like i've ever seen. will try it.
[05:31] <Juhaz> giga, breezy already has 1.0.6, following outdated guides probably isn't going to help
[05:31] <rudiz> Chromin, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser?highlight=%28opera%29
[05:31] <tristan> Jowi : yes and if you make an addition menu with transparency it looks really great
[05:32] <giga> Juhaz, I saw that but I cant connect to my AP "WPA" :(
[05:32] <tristan> Chromin : what did you download?
[05:32] <tristan> Chromin : opera.deb ?
[05:32] <giga> Juhaz, and it thats the case I think I messed up man
[05:32] <freemanen> is there any list of the news in ubuntu dapper drake?
[05:33] <giga> Juhaz, when i click on the Network Conn. icon on the dock i get an error
[05:33] <giga> Juhaz, no such device
[05:33] <deFrysk> http://www.opera.com/download/ and choose other/static DEB
[05:33] <LoPMX> this is cool - http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=32252&PHPSESSID=3d5ffcdab84c7866579431d2b15d3e8a
[05:33] <Chromin> opera_8.51-20051114...t_en_etch_i386.deb
[05:33] <testmachine> so your NIC isnt configured
[05:33] <tonyyarusso> Can I get some help with a make error while installing configure-thinkpad?  (Following instructions at http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/42578/)
[05:33] <Chromin> is what i dled
[05:33] <giga> Juhaz, is there a way to restore it or reinstall IPW2200 and IEEE80211
[05:34] <giga> Juhaz, im in the middle of this install
[05:34] <Chromin> and heres the problem again. went to to many pages.. and wont open the site rudiz game me.
[05:34] <Juhaz> giga, um, yeah, probably, let me dig in what packages they are
[05:34] <Chromin> gave*
[05:34] <tristan> Chromin : OK. open terminal and go to the folder where there is opera...
[05:34] <tonyyarusso> Chromin: I had some trouble with the package from the opera site, but the one from ubunut with apt was fine.
[05:34] <gary_> Jowi I looked and it is downladed, but does not show up, even as hidden
[05:34] <tristan> Chromin : then type sudo dpkg -i opera_8...........
[05:35] <giga> Juhaz, Thanks a lot, I really want to get off of XP if you know what I mean
[05:35] <tonyyarusso> I'm thinking I might be lacking libraries or something that make needs.
[05:35] <tristan> Chromin : else do in terminal sudo apt-get install opera
[05:35] <tristan> Chromin : it will be easier
[05:35] <Chromin> okay okay.. im lost here sorry.
[05:36] <tonyyarusso> My error: make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[05:36] <tonyyarusso> make: *** [default]  Error 2
[05:36] <tristan> Chromin : Where are you lost?
[05:37] <Jowi> gary_: for example, if you downloaded the kernel-source-2.6.10 from synaptic, there should be /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.10.tar.gz there
[05:37] <qweo> anybody can help with R300 graphics driver?
[05:37] <sethk> tonyyarusso, the only way that can happen is if you don't have 2.6.12-9-386 installed
[05:37] <Chromin> lol.. from the begining
[05:37] <Chromin> terminal?
[05:37] <gary_> Jowi, there is nothing in that directory. I checked synaptic, and it says installed
[05:37] <tonyyarusso> sethk: How can I check / fix it?
[05:37] <Chromin> sorry. as i said im new to ubuntu.
[05:37] <giga> Juhaz, i see this
[05:37] <giga> make -C /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build M=/home/giga/ieee80211-1.0.3 MODVERDIR=/home/giga/ieee80211-1.0.3 modules
[05:37] <giga> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 11: gcc-3.4: command not found
[05:37] <giga> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 12: gcc-3.4: command not found
[05:37] <giga> make[1] : gcc-3.4: Command not found
[05:37] <giga> make[1] : Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386'
[05:37] <giga>   CC [M]   /home/giga/ieee80211-1.0.3/ieee80211_module.o
[05:37] <giga> /bin/sh: gcc-3.4: command not found
[05:37] <giga> make[2] : *** [/home/giga/ieee80211-1.0.3/ieee80211_module.o]  Error 127
[05:37] <giga> make[1] : *** [_module_/home/giga/ieee80211-1.0.3]  Error 2
[05:37] <giga> make[1] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386'
[05:37] <giga> make: *** [modules]  Error 2
[05:38] <Jowi> gary_: which one did you install?
[05:38] <tristan> Chromin : in Applications - Accessories - Open Terminal
[05:38] <sklav> giga, use pastebin
[05:38] <Juhaz> giga, please don't paste long snippets here, use pastebin
[05:38] <Chromin> okay im here
[05:38] <Jowi> !pastebin
[05:38] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[05:38] <gary_> Jowi let me check
[05:38] <christianp> how can i choose, with apt, the version i want of a given product?
[05:38] <Chromin> now what do i type
[05:38] <giga> Juhaz, ok sorry
[05:38] <tristan> Chromin : you have to type
[05:38] <Jowi> tristan: the dock is gdesklets?
[05:39] <tristan> Chromin : sudo apt-get install opera
[05:39] <tristan> Jowi : ???
[05:39] <Juhaz> giga, anyway, kernel has been compiled with gcc 3.4, and it isn't installed by default, so you'll need to install it before you can compile kernel modules
[05:39] <Jowi> tristan: the osx icons at the bottom, gdesklet theme?
[05:39] <gary_> Jowi linux-inage-2.6.12-9.23
[05:39] <Chromin> command not found
[05:40] <gary_> Jowi it was installed when the whole system was installed
[05:40] <Chromin> okay. got it now. but package not found
[05:40] <tristan> Jowi : it seems that the screenshot is from a MAcOSX directly. Do you want me to take a screen of my desktop to show you how it looks like
[05:40] <giga> Juhaz, didnt that install with this "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[05:40] <Jowi> gary_: linux-image does not include the sources.
[05:41] <tristan> Chromin : you type "sudo apt-get install opera" without the quotes?
[05:41] <Juhaz> giga, nope, that pulls in gcc 4.0
[05:41] <Chromin> tristan : it says couldnt find package opera
[05:41] <tonyyarusso> How do I check what kernel version I have installed?
[05:41] <gary_> Jowi I'm new at this, how can I install the sources? I'm need it to install vpnclient from Cisco
[05:41] <Chromin> without quotes yes
[05:41] <The_Isle_of_Mark> tonyyarusso, uname -r
[05:41] <giga> Juhaz, do i just do "apt-get install gcc" ?
[05:41] <rudiz> you have to use the wiki i pointed u to ,Chromin
[05:41] <sethk> gary_, the kernel sources can be installed with synaptic
[05:41] <Jowi> gary, search synaptic for "kernel-source" and you will get a list of which are available.
[05:42] <tristan> Chromin : OK. Do you know how to use the command "cd" to change of directory?
[05:42] <tonyyarusso> The_Isle_of_Mark: Thanks.
[05:42] <Chromin> wiki?
[05:42] <Juhaz> giga, apt-get install gcc-3.4
[05:42] <sklav> Chromin, you need to enable universe in apt sources
[05:42] <Chromin> okay.. lost again.
[05:42] <sethk> gary_, you probably need kernel headers as well (or possibly only headers, but you need headers)
[05:42] <Chromin> and rudiz. my browzer is once again not letting me got o pages
[05:42] <tristan> sklav: he downloaded the .deb so it might be beter to install the .deb he downloaded. We will modify his deposit after...
[05:42] <Chromin> how do i enable universe?
[05:42] <gary_> I dont know how to do that
[05:42] <mannyman> Hi everyone !
[05:42] <Chromin> okay lost again.. lol
[05:42] <tristan> Chromin : OK. Do you know how to use the command "cd" to change of directory?
[05:42] <tonyyarusso> sethk: uname -r returned 2.6.12-9-386.  Do you have another idea for my error?
[05:43] <rudiz> install epiphany-browser then
[05:43] <giga> Juhaz, ok man its installed
[05:43] <mannyman> where can I set Ubuntu to mount my NTFS partition as UTF-8 readable ?
[05:43] <sethk> tonyyarusso, does ls /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386 show a build directory?
[05:43] <Chromin> no tristan i do not
[05:43] <rudiz> sudo apt-get install epiphany-browser
[05:43] <sethk> mannyman, you can either mount is by hand with an option, or add the option to /etc/fstab
[05:43] <syndicate> hi - can anyone help me to install newsgrab? it's a gdesklet that comes with 3 .script files. should i copy / run these?
[05:43] <mjr> mannyman, add an "iocharset=utf-8" option (separated with commas if other options are present) to the /etc/fstab entry
[05:43] <tonyyarusso> sethk: No.
[05:43] <gary_> Is this all done with synaptic?
[05:43] <asderty> @search Firefox
[05:44] <htet> Can anyone tell me how can I make my ubuntu authenticate against NIS?
[05:44] <tonyyarusso> sethk: It has other things in it; it's not empty, but no build.
[05:44] <sethk> tonyyarusso, do you have a /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386 directory?
[05:44] <tonyyarusso> sethk: Yes.
[05:45] <rudiz> Chromin, try epiphany
[05:45] <Jowi> gary_: yes. start synaptic and click search. type in "kernel-source" and press ok. choose which source you want and install it.
[05:45] <sethk> tonyyarusso, ok, you were typing when I was asking  :)
[05:45] <Jowi> !kernelsource
[05:45] <ubotu> I heard kernelsource is apt-get install linux-source-<your kernel version>
[05:45] <mannyman> mjr, there are "sets" - it seems in - the fstab file separated by tabs. In which one do I put the command ?
[05:45] <Jowi> !kernel
[05:45] <sethk> tonyyarusso, try reinstalling the kernel image
[05:45] <giga> Juhaz, im getting this
[05:45] <giga> Juhaz, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/454154
[05:45] <tristan> Chromin : OK. This is quite simple. cd stands for change directory. You have t type cd name_of_the_directory
[05:45] <tonyyarusso> sethk: I can just do that as sudo apt-get install linux-image, right?
[05:45] <gary_> Jowi it says it is already installed. Do I just do it again? Sorry for being so ignorant
[05:46] <Jowi> gary_: what is already installed? be precise
[05:46] <tonyyarusso> sethk: Plus architecture.
[05:46] <Chromin> okay what directory do i put in it?
[05:46] <tonyyarusso> sethk: And version.
[05:46] <tristan> Chromin : try what rudiz says
[05:46] <Juhaz> giga, doesn't really say anything about WHY make failed...
[05:46] <sethk> tonyyarusso, I don't remember the exact apt-get syntax, I'm lazy and use synaptic.  but that sounds good
[05:46] <sklav> is nptl implemented in ubuntu ?
[05:46] <tristan> In terminal type : sudo apt-get install epiphany-browser
[05:46] <giga> Juhaz, is there a way for me to get it working with WPA?
[05:46] <tonyyarusso> sethk: Will I then need to reboot before it takes effect?
[05:46] <gary_> It says ,in the column installed, that it is installed. It says the installed version is 2.6..........
[05:46] <sethk> giga, might be a permissions think.  did you try it with sudo
[05:47] <spiderbatdad> some please help
[05:47] <Jowi> gary_: have a look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelHowto?highlight=%28kernel%29
[05:47] <sethk> tonyyarusso, not in this case because you are only looking for build files
[05:47] <flibble> Can anyone help me - I've been playing with ubuntu live on my work laptop and its been great, would like to install on personal laptop but it does not have a cd drive - its running an old debian which i installed with a boot from dos command line followed by network install - can i do anything similar? Any chance of exporting install cd over nfs from another box?
[05:47] <mannyman> How can I make NTFS partitions mountable (or readable actually) by normal user accounts ?
[05:47] <giga> Juhaz, yes
[05:47] <Chromin> no such directory
[05:47] <coz> hello all again
[05:47] <sethk> tonyyarusso, and you are already running that kernel, right?
[05:47] <afd_> hi! I'm using dapler and I can't access the gnome menus. They open, and then dissapear. Anyone gets this as well?
[05:47] <Jowi> gary_: have a look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelHowto
[05:47] <coz>  OK guys I am getting bored give me a few off the wall aps that work in ubuntu to play with
[05:48] <orkin> Ubuntu will not detect my Conexant E93908 modem
[05:48] <Jowi> coz: inkscape
[05:48] <tonyyarusso> sethk: Yes.
[05:48] <coz> got it
[05:48] <gary_> Ok, thanks. I'll try that. Thanks for your help!!
[05:48] <mcphail> coz: Blender
[05:48] <tristan> Chromin :  were you able to install epiphany?
[05:48] <coz> Got that too
[05:48] <sethk> tonyyarusso, then reboot shouldn't be necessary.  In any event, let's see if it works.  Although I have build, and that is all I did, so it should work
[05:48] <Jowi> coz: e17
[05:48] <spiderbatdad> help please
[05:48] <coz> e17 ooo what's that???
[05:49] <coz> spiderbatdad what;s the problem
[05:49] <spiderbatdad> want to install tar.bz2
[05:49] <Chromin> no hold on. let me try
[05:49] <spiderbatdad> have it in folder extracted
[05:49] <mannyman> How can I make NTFS partitions mountable (or readable actually) by normal user accounts ?
[05:49] <Jowi> coz: the new enlightenment: www.get-e.org
[05:49] <mjr> mannyman, add "user" to the mount options I mentioned
[05:49] <coz> ] ok guys spiderbat dad needs help here give him a hand at installinga tar.bz2
[05:49] <trappist> mannyman: mount with umask=0 and/or uid=1000
[05:49] <henk> I want to burn some mp3's to cd what is the easiest way to do that with ubuntu
[05:50] <coz> enlightenment I will try
[05:50] <mannyman> mjr, there are "sets" - it seems in - the fstab file separated by tabs. In which one do I put the command ?
[05:50] <mjr> mannyman, that for user-mountable, user-readable would be umask=0 as that guy said
[05:50] <Jowi> coz: tar xzvf name.tar.bz2
[05:50] <Chromin> okay.. where do i get epiphany?
[05:50] <mjr> mannyman, the fourth column is for options
[05:50] <trappist> Jowi: the 'user' option lets mortal users *mount* the filesystem, not access it
[05:50] <spiderbatdad> tried
[05:50] <tonyyarusso> sethk: On a side note while I do that, what is the difference between 386, 586, and 686 as architectures?  It has seemed somewhat ambiguous in some things I've run into, and I'm honestly not entirely sure of what mine is.
[05:50] <tristan> Chromin : type in terminal "sudo apt-get install epiphany" without quotes
[05:50] <Jowi> trappist: huh?
[05:50] <spiderbatdad> has the folder open and tar extracted
[05:50] <coz> ok that didn't work for spiderbatdad
[05:51] <rudiz> epiphany-browser, Chromin
[05:51] <coz> what is the file you are trying to install?
[05:51] <spiderbatdad> ./configure not recognized
[05:51] <spiderbatdad> gyach
[05:51] <coz> where did you get it?
[05:51] <tonyyarusso> sethk: No build directory after an apt reinstall.
[05:51] <spiderbatdad> webcam for yahoo
[05:51] <mannyman> trappist, mjr, thanks guys
[05:51] <Jowi> what is gyack that everyone is trying to install lately? what is that?
[05:51] <rudiz> sudo apt-get install epipany-browser
[05:51] <Chromin> where do i dl epiphany?
[05:52] <rudiz> epiphany*
[05:52] <spiderbatdad> build essential cvs and subversion all installed
[05:52] <tristan> Chromin : type in terminal "sudo apt-get install epiphany" without quotes
[05:52] <spiderbatdad> ok
[05:52] <tristan> Chromin : it will download it and install it automatically
[05:52] <Chromin> says cant find pachage
[05:52] <mannyman> How do I get Ubuntu to use "snapshot" (development) repositories as sources for updates/upgrades ?
[05:52] <Jowi> tristan: epiphany is a game. epiphany-browser should be the correct one
[05:52] <Chromin> no dling now
[05:52] <tristan> Jowi : OK
[05:52] <coz> spiderbatdad http://tl.linux.org.ph/~xenos/debian/gyach-enhanced/
[05:52] <Chromin> nvm*
[05:53] <spiderbatdad> building dependacy tree done!
[05:53] <CKD> hallo
[05:53] <tristan> Chromin : type in terminal "sudo apt-get install epiphany-browser" without quotes
[05:53] <coz> it is a deb file easy to install
[05:53] <CKD> spricht hier jemand deutsch ?
[05:53] <rudiz> Chromin epiphany-browser not epiphany
[05:53] <coz> download the .deb file
[05:53] <Chromin> thank you. its dl and installing now
[05:53] <spiderbatdad> 0 upgrade, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[05:53] <Chromin> okay it dled and installed it
[05:54] <coz> spiderbatdad there is a.deb file for that app
[05:54] <Chromin> now what?
[05:54] <spiderbatdad> what does that mean
[05:54] <tristan> Now you should be able to run it with "epiphany-browser" in terminal
[05:54] <mannyman> How do I get Ubuntu to use "snapshot" (development) repositories as sources for updates/upgrades (as listed in http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu) ?
[05:54] <rudiz> go to the wikipage and look for "Find Page"
[05:54] <jbroome> spiderbatdad: you're completly uptodate
[05:54] <coz> you can install the deb file without all the make
[05:55] <spiderbatdad> thank you very much I'll try to use it
[05:55] <rudiz> Chromin and give: opera browser
[05:55] <coz> i assume you know how to install the .deb files??
[05:55] <spiderbatdad> no
[05:55] <spiderbatdad> i know nothing
[05:55] <coz> OK put it in the home directory
[05:55] <sklav> dpkg -i package-name.deb
[05:55] <spiderbatdad> how to put it in home dir?
[05:55] <ULffuntu> hello, is anybody here pretty knowlegable about iptables & chains?
[05:55] <orkin> Ubuntu will not detect my Conexant E93908 modem
[05:55] <coz> then in the termial sudo dpkg -i first part of the file and hit tab to complete the name
[05:56] <Chousuke> spiderbatdad: just download it and save it to your homedir
[05:56] <rudiz> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[05:56] <tristan> Chromin : do you have the internet working now without freezing...?
[05:56] <coz> in other words put in gyach then hit tab it will complete the package name
[05:56] <coz> then hit enter
[05:56] <coz> so it would look like this
[05:56] <spiderbatdad> from Home dir?
[05:56] <sklav> what is gyach?
[05:56] <Chromin> let me try. give me a few mins
[05:56] <coz> dpkg -i gyach
[05:56] <giga> can anyone help me with ipw2200?
[05:56] <spiderbatdad> webcam for yahoo
[05:56] <coz> then hit tab and enter
[05:57] <spiderbatdad> ok but to move it to Home...what?
[05:57] <mannyman> How do I get Ubuntu to use "snapshot" (development) repositories as sources for updates/upgrades (as listed in http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu) ?
[05:57] <coz> put the word guach in browser it will give definition
[05:57] <spiderbatdad> chmod Home?
[05:57] <giga> can anyone help me with ipw2200?
[05:57] <coz> just cut and paste in to home directory
[05:57] <Jowi> bbl
[05:57] <spiderbatdad> ok
[05:58] <coz> the open terminal
[05:58] <coz> then
[05:58] <coz> make sure you have the .deb file in hime directory
[05:58] <coz> home
[05:59] <orkin> Does anyone know how to get ubuntu to detect my Conexant E93908 modem
[05:59] <mannyman> mjr, How do I get Ubuntu to use "snapshot" (development) repositories as sources for updates/upgrades (as listed in http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu) ?
[05:59] <spiderbatdad> cd /home?
[05:59] <coz> Ksnapshot?
[05:59] <spiderbatdad> cd /home
[05:59] <spiderbatdad> opps
[05:59] <coz> no you don't have to cd home
[05:59] <rudiz> mannyman, change the version name in breezy in the repos
[05:59] <mannyman> rudiz, to what
[06:00] <Juhaz> giga, there's a bit more recent wpa info in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90450, however, there's no way to know in what condition your ipw2200 drivers are and how to restore them if you've followed the other one half way trough...
[06:00] <mannyman> ?
[06:00] <coz> in the terminal just type dpkg -i gyach then hit the tab button and then the enter button
[06:00] <rudiz> what v are u running now?
[06:00] <spiderbatdad> dpkg -1 gyach
[06:00] <Latina> hry
[06:00] <coz> no i
[06:00] <Latina> HEy
[06:00] <coz> not l
[06:00] <PerryJr> hey
[06:00] <Latina> wasup?
[06:00] <mannyman> rudiz, breeazy
[06:00] <rudiz> mannyman. which version are u running now?
[06:00] <sklav> spiderbatdad, dpkg -i  like in irvine
[06:00] <PerryJr> nttn much.. just doing that stupid journal entry..
[06:00] <mannyman> rudiz, breeazy
[06:00] <Latina> lol
[06:01] <PerryJr> tell ppl around you to get on this chat
[06:01] <coz> make sure it is dpkg -i not -l
[06:01] <spiderbatdad> sudo right?
[06:01] <Bushito> i was updating ubuntu and got multiple errors with synaptic how can i see what errors i got??
[06:01] <Chromin> okay it seems to work. i went to about 10 pages and it did not freeze
[06:01] <coz> yes unless you go in as root
[06:01] <T-One|afk> question: does grub treat the drive its installed on as HD0?
[06:01] <rudiz> go to the sources.list and in every line change breezy in dapper
[06:01] <Latina> they wont want to the to good
[06:01] <coz> here's what it should look like before yo it enter
[06:01] <PerryJr> lol
[06:01] <PerryJr> goody goodies
[06:01] <Latina> plus ther is noone here around to tell
[06:01] <dave_> spiderbatdad: dpkg -i like install
[06:01] <Latina> they all losers
[06:01] <spiderbatdad> error in processing
[06:02] <mannyman> rudiz, where is sources;.list located ?
[06:02] <coz> dpkg -i gyach-cnhanced_1.0.7-1_i386.deb
[06:02] <spiderbatdad> canot accesss archive
[06:02] <coz> sorry enhanced
[06:02] <royce> i am able to mount windows shares, but I am unable to access them through the filesystem, like through programs, any ideas?
[06:02] <rudiz> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:02] <rudiz> in terminal type that ,mannyman
[06:02] <tonyyarusso> Still having trouble with make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop. error after kernel reinstall.
[06:02] <coz> look again
[06:02] <mannyman> rudiz, thanks
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> royce,  they are getting mounted as owned by root. type "!ntfs" and read the bots link
[06:02] <mannyman> any good sources you recommend ?
[06:02] <rudiz> mannyman and delete the cdrom line
[06:02] <spiderbatdad> what folder should I be in now?
[06:02] <coz>  sudo dpkg -i gyach-enhanced_1.0.7-2_i386.deb
[06:03] <spiderbatdad> ok
[06:03] <royce> !ntfs
[06:03] <ubotu> rumour has it, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[06:03] <coz> no folder in terminal
[06:03] <alexisc> yva?
[06:03] <mannyman> rudiz, ok, any good sources you recommend ?
[06:03] <Latina> ya
[06:03] <alexisc> oh ok good
[06:03] <Latina> lol
[06:03] <coz> did you donwload the .deb file from the source I gave you?
[06:03] <rudiz> wait
[06:03] <michellel> sup
[06:03] <PerryJr> wassup alexis
[06:03] <spiderbatdad> me?
[06:03] <Latina> ntmu ?
[06:03] <coz> Yess
[06:04] <worklez> q
[06:04] <Latina> wasup alexis?
[06:04] <spiderbatdad> no what source?
[06:04] <coz> apiderbatdad did you download the .deb file
[06:04] <michellel> huh
[06:04] <alexisc> nothingmuch this stupi hing
[06:04] <Latina> this is so confusin lol
[06:04] <michellel> lol
[06:04] <PerryJr> haha
[06:04] <orkin> Can anyone here help me getting ubuntu to detect my modem?
[06:04] <PerryJr> what number are you guys on?
[06:04] <PerryJr> on the journal thingie
[06:04] <tylerp> hi
[06:04] <alexisc> 2 haha
[06:04] <Xtreme984> what's a GDM Theme?
[06:04] <tristan> Chromin : do you have the internet working now without freezing...?
[06:04] <Latina> hey
[06:04] <coz> here is the url again    http://tl.linux.org.ph/~xenos/debian/gyach-enhanced/
[06:05] <PerryJr> what number are you guys on?
[06:05] <Latina> Perry wut number you on ?
[06:05] <coz> download the .deb file
[06:05] <Latina> lol
[06:05] <tylerp> okay
[06:05] <michellel> im on like 4
[06:05] <alexisc> wat you on yva?
[06:05] <PerryJr> i'm on number 4.. i dont know what to put
[06:05] <PerryJr> TELL ME
[06:05] <Latina> hahaha iam on like  lol
[06:05] <alexisc> godi dunno not there yet
[06:05] <Latina> !
[06:05] <ubotu> Latina: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[06:05] <tristan> Xtreme984 : the desktop theme lile window borders, icons, fonts used in menus...
[06:05] <Latina> 1
[06:05] <michellel> stuck on #4
[06:05] <tylerp> wat the hell
[06:05] <michellel> ughhh
[06:05] <Xtreme984> tristan, thanks, just found some kool ones
[06:05] <alexisc> ihate sittingnearthefront
[06:05] <michellel> teehee
[06:05] <Xtreme984> tristan, how do I install those then?
[06:05] <spiderbatdad> ok be back...thanks coz
[06:05] <tristan> Xtreme984 : go to www.gnome-look.org for a lot
[06:05] <ledh> Hey ppl!! How are ya?? --->Can anyone help me on how to update Open Office?
[06:06] <alexisc> ill brb needa get somework done
[06:06] <rudiz> mannyman, only use the archive ones...no backports
[06:06] <Xtreme984> tristan, I know, that's where I found cool ones... but I need install instructs
[06:06] <coz> Ok guys start naming off the wall apps that work in ubuntu I am BORED!
[06:06] <Latina> wats up ?
[06:06] <michellel> boredom
[06:06] <tylerp> wat the hell
[06:06] <rudiz> the official ubuntu ones only,mannyman
[06:06] <tylerp> okay
[06:06] <mannyman> rudiz, thanks
[06:06] <tristan> Xtreme984 : download the archive, open the theme manager (System, Preferences, Theme) and drag and drop the archive in the window and that's all
[06:06] <rudiz> :)
[06:06] <Xtreme984> ah ok
[06:07] <Latina> PERYY HELP ME!!!!!!!!!
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> Constructo :P
[06:07] <testmachine> nothing wrong with linux noobies
[06:07] <testmachine> and whats a noob
[06:07] <testmachine> i dont believe in the word noob
[06:07] <testmachine> :)
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> and xspringgies :P -- not sure if they are in the repos however.
[06:07] <coz> is anyone here an expert?????
[06:07] <royce> Dr_Willis: "No usable windows/mac partitions found"
[06:07] <testmachine> :P
[06:07] <michellel> wut number u on?
[06:08] <juliad> alexic??
[06:08] <tristan> Anyone; is there a program that is nice to edit gdm themes without going into the files?
[06:08] <rudiz> mannyman , sudo update
[06:08] <juliad> alexis
[06:08] <coz> I like doof better than noob because i am one
[06:08] <tristan> like changing fonts colors and so on....
[06:08] <testmachine> tristan: gdmsetup?
[06:08] <tylerp> mitchel u online
[06:08] <rudiz> manny, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:08] <alexisc> haha backk
[06:08] <mannyman> rudiz, you mean apt-get update ?
[06:08] <juliad> sme here
[06:08] <rudiz> after you made the changes
[06:08] <mitchellm> hello
[06:08] <Latina> PERRY hurri up
[06:09] <coz> hello michellm
[06:09] <Latina> PERYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:09] <rudiz> "sudo apt-get update"
[06:09] <michellel> wuts perry doin?
[06:09] <tristan> testmachine : well no because it doesnot allow you to modify the current theme you are using
[06:09] <mitchellm> shut up perry
[06:09] <tylerp> yup
[06:09] <alexisc> omg this is so stupid
[06:09] <rudiz> after that sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:09] <testmachine> tristan: then you have to go into the config files
[06:09] <juliad> who is on??
[06:09] <tylerp> ur online nowmitch
[06:09] <testmachine> tristan: but config files arent really difficult
[06:09] <Latina> AWWW PERYY
[06:09] <juliad> i no
[06:09] <mitchellm> no
[06:09] <testmachine> tristan: when you read you will get it
[06:09] <mitchellm> no
[06:09] <orkin> c'mon guys, I know you know how, how do I get ubuntu to detect my modem
[06:09] <pont> is there a 64bit smp kernel image i can get for ubuntu
[06:09] <testmachine> orkin: what kind of modem?
[06:10] <tristan> testmachine : yes I know but you have to find the html colors for every colors you want to be displayed...
[06:10] <william> How do I alter how Linux copies?
[06:10] <mitchellm> suck my dik
[06:10] <michellel> haha
[06:10] <coz> orkin i can't helo you with this one but someone here can comon guys give him a hand
[06:10] <tylerp> lol
[06:10] <william> I don't like how it copies when you high-lite
[06:10] <Latina> no thx
[06:10] <testmachine> tristan: there are enough sites with "html colors"
[06:10] <coz> more apps more apps
[06:10] <juliad> alexic
[06:10] <juliad> yva
[06:10] <mitchellm> hello im back
[06:10] <Latina> yes
[06:10] <mcphail> coz: povray
[06:10] <michellel> wow
[06:10] <tylerp> lo
[06:10] <Latina> this is YVAMARA
[06:11] <coz> tried it
[06:11] <tylerp> lol
[06:11] <ledh> I've tried sudo apt-get update/upgrade/dist-upgrade... nothing works... I want to upgrade to the new OpenOffice2!!! Help!! >.<
[06:11] <tylerp> quit quiting it
[06:11] <mitchellm> lol
[06:11] <mitchellm> lo
[06:11] <g47o> ara comprimir uso el gestor de archivadore?
[06:11] <Latina> michelle wuts the answer for number thre?????
[06:11] <tylerp> so many people here
[06:11] <g47o> para comprimir uso el gestor de archivadores?
[06:11] <spiderbatdad> coz!
[06:11] <tristan> Is the splach screen is the screen that is displayed when booting?
[06:11] <coz> yeah spiderbatdad
[06:11] <Latina> ALEXIS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
[06:11] <testmachine> orkin: ?
[06:11] <alexisc> Yvaaaa!
[06:11] <spiderbatdad> got the deb package now I've got two packages
[06:11] <rudiz> ledh: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org2
[06:11] <testmachine> orkin: what kind of modem do you have?
[06:11] <Latina> wuts the answer for number three?
[06:11] <sethk> orkin, try modprobe
[06:11] <orkin> Conexant E93908 modem
[06:12] <spiderbatdad> haha
[06:12] <coz> well you just need the .deb package
[06:12] <michellel> more like wuts the answer for number 4
[06:12] <orkin> internal of course
[06:12] <Latina> no number three
[06:12] <spiderbatdad> it on desktop
[06:12] <PerryJr> dammit.. cause of you yva i'm on number 2 now when i was on 4
[06:12] <orkin> modprobe?
[06:12] <coz> copy it into the home
[06:12] <spiderbatdad> 10/4
[06:12] <ledh> and how can i uninstall the old one?
[06:12] <testmachine> orkin: is it usb?
[06:12] <coz> spiderbatdad then open terminal
[06:12] <Latina> IAM SORRI
[06:12] <Latina> :(
[06:13] <PerryJr> GUYS WHAT DID YOU PUT ON NUMBER 3? i'm too lazy to do it myslef cause of yva..
[06:13] <rudiz> ledh, overwirtingg it
[06:13] <coz> spiderbatdad do you have root password/
[06:13] <Latina> IAM SORRI :( L(
[06:13] <Latina> :(
[06:13] <PerryJr> lol
[06:13] <Latina> :(
[06:13] <PerryJr> it's ok
[06:13] <ledh> I dunno how! I'm a newby here... sorry! :'(
[06:13] <CarinArr> what's with the caps
[06:13] <spiderbatdad> yes
[06:13] <Latina> i feel so bad now
[06:13] <orkin> no, its old fashioned
[06:13] <Latina> :(
[06:13] <stephaniea> bea?
[06:13] <coz> good then do su root and putin your password
[06:13] <Latina> iam so sorri pery
[06:13] <testmachine> orkin: http://linuxant.com/drivers
[06:13] <mitchellm> shut up PERRY
[06:13] <PerryJr> sorry for the caps
[06:13] <tanner> hey
[06:13] <stephaniea> hey
[06:13] <Latina> SORRY PERRY
[06:13] <Latina> hey tanner
[06:13] <PerryJr> DONT TELL ME TO SHUTUP MITCHELL
[06:13] <kenkku^> hello, I got a motherboard with nforce2 chipset, tried to install the drivers by nvidia and they didn't install (something about kernel source or modules? I can get the accurate error message later) and I need to reinstall the default drivers.. I got breezy
[06:13] <tylerp_> i'am back
[06:13] <tanner> the teache5r is right behind me
[06:13] <tanner> lol
[06:13] <tylerp_> lol
[06:13] <Latina> hahahahah
[06:13] <rudiz> just do what i told u ,ledh
[06:13] <michellel> haha
[06:13] <Latina> lol
[06:14] <ledh> okis! n_n
[06:14] <tomdubya> wow busy
[06:14] <PerryJr> lmao
[06:14] <mitchellm> no she isnt
[06:14] <Latina> SORRY PERRU
[06:14] <tylerp_> everyone is like online
[06:14] <Pablo> o.O
[06:14] <PerryJr> hey BEA
[06:14] <Latina> PERRY
[06:14] <stephaniea> BEAAA
[06:14] <tanner> hiiiiiiiii bea
[06:14] <PerryJr> I SED IT"S OK!!
[06:14] <michellel> perru?
[06:14] <rudiz> edh u donot have to uninstall it
[06:14] <stephaniea> bea
[06:14] <beatrizb> omg heyy
[06:14] <Latina> PERRY iam SO SORRI
[06:14] <stephaniea> bea
[06:14] <stephaniea> haha
[06:14] <tanner> lol shes right beside me
[06:14] <tristan> bye everyone
[06:14] <CarinArr> kenkku^ you need to install the kernel headers
[06:14] <stephaniea> okay hey
[06:14] <PerryJr> why are you guys saying peru
[06:14] <Latina> SOORRI PERRY
[06:14] <tylerp_> bye
[06:14] <PerryJr> OK
[06:14] <PerryJr> I KNOW
[06:14] <PerryJr> SHUTUP
[06:14] <stephaniea> beaa
[06:14] <testmachine> orkin: http://linuxant.com/drivers for when you didnt saw it
[06:14] <stephaniea> talkkk
[06:14] <kenkku^> CarinArr: how? :P
[06:14] <testmachine> becouse all the chaos here
[06:14] <tomdubya> have quick hopefully easy ??
[06:14] <Latina> SRRRI PERRRI
[06:14] <testmachine> shit hey
[06:14] <testmachine> too much chaos
[06:14] <beatrizb> yea..
[06:14] <testmachine> please stay on topic people
[06:14] <stephaniea> bea
[06:14] <PerryJr> i'm sorry latina.. i'm sorry
[06:14] <PerryJr> i'm sorry
[06:14] <Latina> PERU I SAD IAM  RELLI SORRI
[06:14] <PerryJr> i'm sorry
[06:14] <CarinArr> kenkku^ go to synaptic, search for kernel, it should come up there
[06:15] <beatrizb> steph.. what?
[06:15] <PerryJr> i'm sorry
[06:15] <michellel> wth?
[06:15] <Latina> SRRI
[06:15] <testmachine> this is an support channel
[06:15] <Latina> SORRI
[06:15] <stephaniea> what number are you on bea
[06:15] <HappyFool> testmachine: no ops around, alas
[06:15] <Latina> PERRY IAMS SO SORRI
[06:15] <Xtreme984> >_<
[06:15] <PerryJr> oh this is a support shannel?
[06:15] <Latina> SORRI
[06:15] <ledh> hmmm... where can i find a whole list of the commands when using the console...
[06:15] <ya> hello
[06:15] <Latina> SORRI
[06:15] <testmachine> HappyFool: thats fucked up in this kind of situations
[06:15] <beatrizb> 9.
[06:15] <royce> i have some windows shares mounted, i guess as root, the wiki I was directed about automounting didn't get me anywhere, any ideas
[06:15] <spiderbatdad> authentication failure!
[06:15] <Latina> SORRI
[06:15] <Xtreme984> still got no partition magic
[06:15] <tanner> hey
[06:15] <kenkku^> CarinArr: but I don't have the Internet now.. the LAN card isn't working
[06:15] <testmachine> ledh: moment
[06:15] <ledh> I need a guide... like... Linux for Dummies! xDDD
[06:15] <stephaniea> this is weird lol
[06:15] <Latina> PERU IAM RELI SORRI
[06:15] <tylerp_> watthe hell
[06:15] <testmachine> idaho45: i have an beginners course
[06:15] <tanner> lol
[06:15] <testmachine> ledh: even
[06:15] <PerryJr> YEAH I KNOW!!
[06:15] <tomdubya> i am in the middle of network install it seems to be stalled at 6%  but df shows data still getting written is this normal?
[06:15] <michellel> im sooo lost
[06:15] <beatrizb> lol
[06:15] <CarinArr> ack kenkku, that happened to me too.. same thing nvidia drivers messed it up
[06:15] <tanner> hi perry
[06:15] <Latina> SORRI PERRY
[06:15] <coz> spiderbatdad!
[06:15] <PerryJr> hi tanner
[06:15] <michellel> yva shut up
[06:15] <tylerp_> ok
[06:15] <Latina> PERRI IAM SORRI
[06:16] <beatrizb> whoa... isnt tanner hot? steph
[06:16] <PerryJr> lmao
[06:16] <CarinArr> kenkku do you still have your ubuntu cd? cause it should be on there
[06:16] <tanner> whos latina
[06:16] <stephaniea> ew mitchell die
[06:16] <spiderbatdad> auth. failure
[06:16] <beatrizb> hahahahahaha
[06:16] <PerryJr> yeah shutup
[06:16] <stephaniea> haha yeah totally bea
[06:16] <coz> no way!
[06:16] <Xtreme984> testmachine: you got that beginnner's course in a document???
[06:16] <robotgeek> !ops
[06:16] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[06:16] <stephaniea> hahah
[06:16] <PerryJr> i'll just do it at home dont worry about it
[06:16] <spiderbatdad> si
[06:16] <tomdubya> sorry if this is the wrong place or time ....
[06:16] <tanner> whos latine
[06:16] <tylerp_> is mitchell still online
[06:16] <coz> show me what you typed in to the terminal
[06:16] <PerryJr> i like cheeeeeeeeese
[06:16] <Latina> I SAID I WAS SORRI DOT HAVE TO BE ALL MEAN TO ME NOW
[06:16] <rudiz> http://ubuntulinux.org
[06:16] <mitchellm> tyler is my bitch
[06:16] <tylerp_> iva mara
[06:16] <testmachine> ledh: http://puscii.squat.net/docs/pxii-cursus/index.html
[06:16] <tanner> whooos latina
[06:16] <Amaranth> Hi.
[06:16] <tylerp_> wat the fuk
[06:16] <spiderbatdad> su root <password>
[06:16] <tylerp_> no
[06:16] <Latina> Yvamara
[06:16] <coz> right
[06:16] <PerryJr> mitchell shush
[06:16] <tylerp_> u whore
[06:16] <testmachine> ledh: thats an basic linux course
[06:16] <PerryJr> youguys shush
[06:16] <testmachine> ledh: all command line :)
[06:16] <michellel> snaaap
[06:16] <coz> then a failure?
[06:16] <robotgeek> Amaranth: look :)
[06:16] <Amaranth> robotgeek: Start naming names, too many for me. :)
[06:16] <mitchellm> hold my pock BITCH
[06:16] <Latina> IAMSORRI\
[06:16] <spiderbatdad> then password: then <password>
[06:16] <maino82> does anyone have any recommendations/preferences as to a vnc server to use?
[06:16] <ledh> Thanks! TestMachine!! You rock!
[06:16] <PerryJr> I KNOW
[06:16] <stephaniea> e wmitchelll go away
[06:16] <PerryJr> I KNOW
[06:16] <coz> then failure
[06:17] <PerryJr> I KNOW
[06:17] <HappyFool> Amaranth: Latina, mitchellm, PerryJr for starters
[06:17] <PerryJr> IKNOW
[06:17] <spiderbatdad> yes
[06:17] <testmachine> ledh: no problem hehe
[06:17] <Latina> SSORRI
[06:17] <coz> ok
[06:17] <PerryJr> AND I DONT FORGIVE YOU ANYMORE
[06:17] <robotgeek> tylerp:
[06:17] <coz>  tyep
[06:17] <Latina> IAM SO SORRI
[06:17] <ledh> and... i have another Q...
[06:17] <ledh> n_n
[06:17] <coz> sudo passwd root
[06:17] <spiderbatdad> I'm not a twerp
[06:17] <coz> it will ask for a root pasword
[06:17] <tanner> im borededeed
[06:17] <tomdubya> well hell i guess i hit it at playtime
[06:17] <spiderbatdad> j/k
[06:17] <stephaniea> theres too many people
[06:17] <paul__> Hello... Does anyone know how to use Spamassassin (or other Filters) on IMAP accounts in Evolution?
[06:17] <CarinArr> stupid annoying children's playtime at that
[06:17] <orkin> thnx
[06:17] <Amaranth> HappyFool: Lets see if they settle a bit.
[06:17] <mannyman> rudiz, thanks
[06:17] <kenkku^> CarinArr: check msg?
[06:17] <Latina> now iam going to bother you the entire day saying iam sorri
[06:17] <tanner> ya but ur gay
[06:17] <beatrizb> wwhoa. whos on this thing?
[06:17] <coz> is there a way to private here
[06:17] <stephaniea> everyone.
[06:17] <stephaniea> haha
[06:17] <william> How do I run the kill cursor in Gnome?
[06:17] <PerryJr> would someone like to meet me in new york?
[06:17] <neighborlee> tanner, that kind of talk is not allowed here
[06:17] <robotgeek> tanner: keep it on topic
[06:18] <Amaranth> coz: /msg <nick> message
[06:18] <tanner> ya
[06:18] <Latina> I WOULD
[06:18] <tanner> in the baq alley
[06:18] <PerryJr> yeah tanner keep it on topic
[06:18] <william> Just ignore him.
[06:18] <Latina> lol
[06:18] <CarinArr> kenkku^ you need to use a registered nickname.. i'm not getting anything from you
[06:18] <Latina> PERRY IAM SO SRRI (L)
[06:18] <PerryJr> ok tanner get a life.. nerds onli =D
[06:18] <beatrizb> nvm the only people i know that are on..are like perry, yva steph,and tanner all thee other names are whack
[06:18] <LoPMX> where can i download Enlightenment Engage from?
[06:18] <LoPMX> and how can i install it?
[06:18] <beatrizb> hahah
[06:18] <alexisc> omg this is retarded
[06:18] <ledh> hmmm... i have a USB port conection to access internet... but i can't use it... is there a way i can activate it? or something?
[06:18] <Amaranth> PerryJr, Latina, tanner: Please stop.
[06:18] <tomdubya> well thanks anyway but i got other things to do
[06:18] <PerryJr> ok sorry
[06:18] <tanner> oooooo
[06:18] <kenkku^> CarinArr: ok then: do I just add the cd as a repository?
[06:18] <Latina> HAHAHAHA
[06:18] <michellel> lol
[06:18] <tanner> shoot
[06:18] <michellel> bahaha
[06:18] <tylerp_> i'am bak
[06:18] <Amaranth> I'm starting to think they are bots.
[06:18] <PerryJr> i will stop now..
[06:18] <tylerp_> perry
[06:18] <coz> spiderbatdad
[06:18] <spiderbatdad> awesome Unix password updated successfully
[06:18] <Jowi> LoPMX: have a look at www.get-e.org
[06:18] <michellel> bots?
[06:18] <robotgeek> Amaranth: :)
[06:18] <michellel> wth?
[06:18] <tylerp_> watdid iva do to u
[06:18] <Latina> MI BAD
[06:18] <mannyman> I'm currently getting errors using cipherfunk.org in repository sources
[06:18] <PerryJr> but i am lonli and i have no friends, i just wanna make some here
[06:18] <neighborlee> o_0
[06:18] <coz> good now type this
[06:19] <mahangu> Amaranth, or just really dumb pre pubescants
[06:19] <CarinArr> kenkku, normally it's already added
[06:19] <beatrizb> omgad heyy alexis
[06:19] <coz> dpkg -i gyach
[06:19] <Latina> i dont have a mother
[06:19] <testmachine> :)
[06:19] <testmachine> nice
[06:19] <Afief> What is Ubuntu's advantage over other Linux distros? such as Fedora for example
[06:19] <coz> make sur it is an i not anl
[06:19] <tylerp_> the hell
[06:19] <coz> hit the tab key
[06:19] <testmachine> Amaranth: good job
[06:19] <stephaniea> alexis os here?
[06:19] <kenkku^> CarinArr: ok, I'll go check it, thanks
[06:19] <tanner> theres alot of pps
[06:19] <Yvonne> Amaranth: they are all on the same ip just ban it :D
[06:19] <CarinArr> kenkku, sorry my fault, it's not kernel-headers, it's linux-headers
[06:19] <gorak> Hi folks, could someone help me with a wee problem? I've upgraded to Breezy on my iBook G4 - all OK except my windows manager is now xfce and I'd like gnome back. Can't find .xinitrc which I figure should have the settings for what to launch... any ideas anyone?
[06:19] <coz>  then the enter
[06:19] <PerryJr> cya all
[06:19] <mahangu> Afief, there are many
[06:19] <Amaranth> Yvonne: bots then
[06:19] <Yvonne> there's 8 of 'em
[06:19] <stephaniea> BEA
[06:19] <ledh> I love the Linux pinguine!! *0*
[06:19] <robotgeek> Amaranth: you showed up in time
[06:19] <stephaniea> wanna leave?
[06:19] <tanner> same here
[06:19] <beatrizb> steph
[06:19] <stephaniea> yes
[06:19] <mannyman> I'm currently getting errors using cipherfunk.org in repository sources, Anyone ?
[06:19] <spiderbatdad> require super user privs.
[06:19] <stephaniea> bea
[06:20] <stephaniea> lets leave
[06:20] <tylerp_> mrs warren was coming
[06:20] <tanner> no
[06:20] <coz> something is up here
[06:20] <tanner> shes left
[06:20] <coz> type here what you typed into the terminal
[06:20] <stephaniea> byee
[06:20] <beatrizb> um yea.. omg lets go to a different chat room kay? come to my desk illtell you how
[06:20] <beatrizb> lol
[06:20] <HappyFool> Afief: maybe we could discuss relative merits of distros in #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[06:20] <stephaniea> okay
[06:20] <stephaniea> cyaa
[06:20] <tanner> nooooo
[06:20] <spiderbatdad> sudo= no such file or dir
[06:20] <robotgeek> Yvonne: just name then, Amaranth hasn't has the pleasure of their conversation
[06:20] <beatrizb> hashaha
[06:20] <coz> no no you are in the terminal right?
[06:20] <pont> anyone know how to get SMP working in ubutnu
[06:20] <tylerp_> mitchell is a bitch
[06:20] <Amaranth> That should settle it.
[06:20] <Yvonne> yup Amaranth
[06:20] <spiderbatdad> right home folder
[06:20] <william> Amaranth, thanks
[06:21] <coz> un der root
[06:21] <CarinArr> kenkku, i'm not sure whether you need to install the "kernel-source" one as well..
[06:21] <william> Now I want help
[06:21] <rudiz> mannyman i told u to se only official ubuntu repos
[06:21] <spiderbatdad> no
[06:21] <Jowi> gorak: guessing you should put "exec /usr/bin/gnome-wm" in /home/username/.xsession
[06:21] <LOQUiLLO_> hello everyone
[06:21] <coz> su root
[06:21] <rudiz> use*
[06:21] <spiderbatdad> but used sudo cmd
[06:21] <gorak> cheers Jowi
[06:21] <spiderbatdad> ok
[06:21] <Afief> How can i get the programs contained in Edbuntu into my Ubuntu system?
[06:21] <mannyman> rudiz, I meant now 1 (currently)
[06:21] <coz> now dpkg -i
[06:21] <coz> gyach
[06:21] <coz> hit the tab
[06:21] <william> Can anyon hear me?
[06:21] <coz> then enter
[06:21] <madboar> NO
[06:21] <rudiz> whats the problem?
[06:21] <erUSUL> pont, install an smp aware kernel
[06:21] <Amaranth> Just call if you need me. :)
[06:21] <HappyFool> william: yip
[06:21] <tonyyarusso> Afief: They're listed in Synaptic.
[06:21] <mannyman> rudiz, I haven't switched yet
[06:21] <william> I felt like I was being ignored
[06:22] <rudiz> ok
[06:22] <Jowi> gorak: might be /usr/bin/gnome-session in replacement for gnome-wm, but not sure
[06:22] <spiderbatdad> dpkg -i gyach
[06:22] <william> Anyways, how do I run the kill cursor in Gnome?
[06:22] <coz> hit tab
[06:22] <mannyman> rudiz, I think it's authentication ?
[06:22] <william> I want to kill a window.
[06:22] <neighborlee> has anyone else seeing the gnome panel bug whereby some menus are displayed with an arror at top or bottom suggesting it can't fit them all in in one display ??
[06:22] <coz> then enter
[06:22] <pont> erUSUL, will I have to compile it
[06:22] <pont> or, is there an image ?
[06:22] <HappyFool> william: you can start a terminal and run xkill
[06:22] <Xenguy> william: xkill  ?
[06:22] <coz> hit tab first then enter
[06:22] <william> thanks
[06:22] <Diedura> hi everyone
[06:22] <william> New question, how do I configure 4.1 stereo?
[06:22] <HappyFool> william: or you can right-click the panel (bar at the top), choose add to panel and look for the 'Force quit' applet
[06:23] <rudiz> i cant help u with tjis one, mannyman
[06:23] <Diedura> can somebody help me with ndiswrapper?
[06:23] <spiderbatdad> errors encounterd while processing
[06:23] <spiderbatdad> cannot access archive
[06:23] <gorak> Thanks Jowi, I'll try both! Cheers!
[06:23] <Jowi> !tell Diedura about ndiswrapper
[06:23] <coz> OK open the home folder at under places
[06:23] <william> I have 4.1 speakers, but the only way to support it is through a convoluted setup using Jack.
[06:23] <erUSUL> pont, no there are a few in repos just search for them
[06:23] <mannyman> rudiz, for PLF I got instruction on their site for the same error but not cipherfunk.org !?
[06:24] <spiderbatdad> ok
[06:24] <HappyFool> william: try running alsamixer in the terminal; otherwise i don't know
[06:24] <royce> im using breezy, i need help mounting windows shares, so they can be accessed through programs
[06:24] <mannyman> rudiz, what is the problem ? I thought this was public source ?
[06:24] <coz> Look to see if the package is in that folder
[06:24] <spiderbatdad> gyach folder and unopened deb package in there
[06:24] <brosiooz> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/454203  i get this when i connect my webcam to my pc the module ov511 is loaded correctly, anyone could help ?
[06:25] <coz> ok go to terminal again
[06:25] <william> I don't even like running Linux on a regular basis, but I accidently deleted Windows, and I only have an upgrade CD.
[06:25] <spiderbatdad> ok
[06:25] <Jowi> william: alsamixer should have options for Surround, Center and LFE if you have the correct driver for your card.
[06:25] <william> Yes, it does
[06:25] <coz> type su root
[06:25] <coz> enter password
[06:25] <william> But the sliders don't seem to do anything.
[06:25] <spiderbatdad> ok
[06:25] <coz> dpkg -i gyach hit tab then enter
[06:25] <HappyFool> coz: you are aware we usually use sudo in ubuntu ?
[06:25] <Absenth> in Breezy, if I use the connect to server function to join a windows share on a domain, where does that get mounted to?  (looking for a path)
[06:26] <coz> I don't use sudo
[06:26] <HappyFool> coz: ubuntu does ;)
[06:26] <Absenth> I see the link on the desktop, but I can't determine what the path to that is.
[06:26] <jbroome> Absenth: /media i believe
[06:26] <coz> I sdon't
[06:26] <spiderbatdad> no good
[06:26] <MasterTsunami> why not?
[06:26] <coz> something is up with the package then
[06:26] <HappyFool> *rolls eyes*
[06:26] <MasterTsunami> out of curiousity
[06:26] <HappyFool> su won't work unless root has been enabled
[06:26] <coz> if you type the entire name it might hellp
[06:26] <sethk> Absenth, right click it and choose properties, see where it is
[06:26] <coz>  dpkg -i gyach...................degb
[06:26] <coz> deb
[06:27] <spiderbatdad> cannot access archive (--install): no such file or dir errors were encoutered
[06:27] <Absenth> sethk "on the desktop"
[06:27] <mannyman> Anyone know how I can get authorized for Cipherfunk multimedia packages (cipherfunk.org) ?
[06:27] <Jowi> william: only got stereo speaker setup here so i can not test its functionality
[06:27] <coz> then the package is corrupt try to download it gain
[06:27] <Absenth> sethk not exactly the kind of path I'm looking for :)
[06:27] <coz> delete the ones you have i home folder
[06:27] <spiderbatdad> what about this deb package
[06:27] <hawking_away> when I do apt-get update I get this error " GPG error: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas Release: "  Is this repo down or can i fix this somehow?
[06:28] <william> Jowi, ok, I guess I just enable the 3d function on the speaker set.
[06:28] <coz> delete all the packages for gyach and download again
[06:28] <coz> do you need the url?
[06:28] <spiderbatdad> ok sure
[06:28] <spiderbatdad> url?
[06:28] <Xenguy> !gpgerr
[06:28] <ubotu> somebody said gpgerr was a GPG-related error that sometimes occur when accessing the Ubuntu archives; it can usually be solved by typing "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*Release*" (without the quotes!) in a terminal
[06:28] <sethk> Absenth, I thought you wanted to know what directory it is in
[06:28] <coz> http://tl.linux.org.ph/~xenos/debian/gyach-enhanced/
[06:28] <coz> download the .deb file
[06:28] <coz> let me do this to see if it works
[06:28] <spiderbatdad> thanks Coz! super- hero
[06:28] <Xenguy> hawking_away: may apply to your situation (not sure tho)
[06:29] <sethk> Absenth, or where it is mounted
[06:29] <Jowi> william: maybe you should also try to play a dvd in totem and choose 4.1 in the audio properties
[06:29] <coz> Helo on let me install this
[06:29] <mannyman> rudiz, why won't you help me ?!
[06:29] <Absenth> seth_k, what I'm shooting for is to mount the windows share on our development web server, so I can use gftp to send the files to our production web server.  unfortunatly I can't figure out where the share got mounted to point the "local" side of gftp at.
[06:29] <spiderbatdad> ok
[06:29] <HappyFool> Xenguy: could also be hawking_away hasn't added Seveas' repo key; there's info on that at http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[06:29] <william> Jowi, I only care about my Ogg collection.
[06:29] <Absenth> sethk, sorry, that was for you...  not seth_k
[06:29] <mannyman> Rudiz, am I doing something wrong ?
[06:29] <william> That may be moot though since they're in Stereo.
[06:29] <coz> spiderbatda it is isntalling
[06:30] <Xenguy> HappyFool: ahh, makes sense
[06:30] <coz> so download that .deb file from the url I gave you
[06:30] <Jowi> probably moot william, probably moot
[06:30] <william> Jowi, I wish that they would port Foobar 2000 to Linux though.
[06:30] <mannyman> rudiz, am I doing something wrong ?
[06:30] <HappyFool> Absenth: if it is mounted somewhere, you should be able to find out where using the command 'mount' (maybe that's already been mentioned)
[06:30] <Jowi> william: funny, never liked that app much myself :)
[06:31] <rudiz> mannyman i donot have the expertise to help you with the new problem
[06:31] <mannyman> rudiz, sorry
[06:31] <mannyman> Anyone know how I can get authorized for Cipherfunk multimedia packages (cipherfunk.org) ?
[06:31] <rudiz> sorry
[06:31] <william> I use it for the plug-ins for the most part, they seem to have mroe power then WinAmp's apps, plus it's less clunky.
[06:31] <HappyFool> Absenth: i have a feeling nautilus may do some sort of fake mounting (unless it's running as root?)
[06:31] <Absenth> HappyFool, I suspect you're right....  which doesn't make my life any easier.
[06:31] <rudiz> mannyman but i would not advise u to do a dist-upgrade..
[06:31] <spiderbatdad> got it Coz
[06:32] <Jowi> william: yeah, never liked winamp much either actually.. haha
[06:32] <Absenth> HappyFool, I don't suppose you can point me at a nice "how to mount a windows share on a domain from ubuntu"  :)
[06:32] <coz> OK now terminal
[06:32] <coz> su root
[06:32] <coz> password
[06:32] <mannyman> rudiz, yes, I understand
[06:32] <rudiz> devel of dapper is very young
[06:32] <spiderbatdad> ok
[06:32] <HappyFool> Absenth: if this is to be a permanent mount, the best is to add a mount entry to fstab
[06:32] <coz> dpkg -i gyach hit tab then hit enter
[06:32] <HappyFool> Absenth: standby...
[06:32] <william> So what do YOU use jowi?:P
[06:32] <spiderbatdad> says root@ubuntubill:/home#
[06:32] <coz> I am trying to find the app after install hold on
[06:32] <mannyman> rudiz, this is why I'm trying though other sources for breezy first
[06:32] <rudiz> manny man it will break ur system now and then
[06:32] <Jowi> william: rhythmbox's got everything i need!
[06:32] <HappyFool> !tell Absenth about samba
[06:33] <HappyFool> Absenth: check for messages from ubotu; that second link looks useful
[06:33] <william> My unorganized 20 gig collection crashes rhythmbox.
[06:33] <Jowi> william: ah, haha. ouch
[06:33] <william> Or may be it just takes forever.
[06:33] <GingerbreadMan> has anyone in here built the kernel with ieee80211 support?
[06:33] <rudiz> take a look in  http://wiki.ubuntu.org
[06:33] <william> Is it me or does the internet work better in Linux?
[06:33] <Jowi> william: yeah, it is not fast adding 2gigs of music, that's for sure.
[06:34] <william> 20 gigs
[06:34] <coz> why are you suing this spiderbatdad
[06:34] <spiderbatdad> suing?
[06:34] <Jowi> william: only had to add 2gigs at a time luckily
[06:34] <mannyman> rudiz, where ?
[06:34] <coz> using this
[06:34] <rudiz> whats ur native language?
[06:34] <spiderbatdad> want webcam on yahoo chat
[06:35] <william> Would rhythmbox work with my Iriver?
[06:35] <spiderbatdad> gf lives 2 hours away
[06:35] <coz> oh ok I am still tgrying to find tha app after install give me aminute
[06:35] <^rob^> hi
[06:35] <GingerbreadMan> so I'm trying to build the kernel with suspend2... and for some reason, ieee80211 doesn't want to build
[06:35] <Absenth> HappyFool, Danke,  With any luck, it'll work.....
[06:35] <Ng> william: not really, I have an iriver and I've yet to find a player that will easily sync stuff to it, so I just use rsync to copy everything across ;)
[06:35] <GingerbreadMan> I get errors that say "No rule to make target"
[06:35] <GingerbreadMan> any ideas?
[06:35] <HappyFool> Absenth: cool. let us know if you have problems
[06:35] <^rob^> is there any text tool to set which daemons to run on boot?
[06:35] <Seveas> ^rob^, update-rc.d
[06:36] <^rob^> ty
[06:36] <coz> not coming up yet
[06:36] <spiderbatdad> this isn't easy is it?
[06:36] <coz> spiderbatdad why are you not using gaim?
[06:36] <mannyman> rudiz, I can read technical English but the link gives blank ?!!!
[06:37] <spiderbatdad> what else id there for yahoo
[06:37] <rudiz> http://ubuntulinux.org
[06:37] <coz> ther is yahoo id in gaim
[06:37] <spiderbatdad> yahoo is in gaim
[06:37] <gnomefreak> spiderbatdad,  most of the chat clients are multi clients
[06:37] <coz> yes
[06:37] <^rob^> Seveas: any other? - i was expecting on something like ntsysv - from other distros
[06:37] <coz> open gaim
[06:37] <spiderbatdad> no of them support webcam
[06:37] <spiderbatdad> with linux
[06:37] <Seveas> ^rob^, ntif
[06:37] <Seveas> ^rob^, ntiKf
[06:37] <coz> gaim supports webcam
[06:38] <gnomefreak> spiderbatdad, i dont remember seeing any of them but gaim might
[06:38] <william> How do I give RPM support to Ubunutu?
[06:38] <Kyral> william: you don't
[06:38] <spiderbatdad> thought gaim was a combo of all chats
[06:38] <jbroome> alien, i think
[06:38] <jbroome> or not
[06:38] <Seveas> william, man alien
[06:38] <n3trunner> the latest KDE, that has kopete says has support already for MSN and Yahoo webcams
[06:38] <n3trunner> which is 3.5
[06:38] <sethk> GingerbreadMan, that means exactly what it says.  There is no rule in the makefile to build whatever target you are giving it.  What target are you using?
[06:38] <Kyral> You cannot use RPMs without modifying them
[06:38] <coz> I have installed this gyach but can't seem to find it anywhere on the system other than read me file
[06:39] <spiderbatdad> she has mac os x thats another issue of compatibility
[06:39] <GingerbreadMan> sethk: it's supposed to be built as a kernel module
[06:39] <Mitja> Can anyone help me please? I can't unmount reiserfs partition, it says device is busy.
[06:39] <spiderbatdad> I got it from FSF originally...there were tons of files...none made sense to me
[06:40] <sethk> GingerbreadMan, so?  What command are you running.  What target are you specifying?
[06:40] <spiderbatdad> thanks for you time Coz...nice thing your doing helping the lost like me
[06:40] <GingerbreadMan> make bzImage install modules modules_install
[06:41] <Absenth> HappyFool, Kudos to you and whoever wrote that page....  Flawless :)
[06:41] <freelove> i'll be formatting home....but i want to preserve my opera passwords & settings.....what do i do?????/
[06:41] <GingerbreadMan> it doesn't seem to work if I try to build it into the kernel, either
[06:41] <william> I feel stupid asking this
[06:42] <william> How do you install Debian packages off of the HDD?
[06:42] <zparta> hello, anyone know a good LVM howto on how to setup a concat software raid with it ?
[06:42] <Kyral> william: sudo dpkg -i <path/to/file>
[06:42] <n3trunner> dpkg
[06:42] <zparta> i am using ubuntu 5.10
[06:42] <freelove> william: sudo dpkg -i <packagename>
[06:42] <william> Thanks
[06:42] <Jowi> william: you mean that you want to REMOVE a package that you already installed with dpkg -i?
[06:43] <william> Jowi, no
[06:43] <Agrajag> freelove: copy ~/.opera somewhere
[06:43] <gleesond> does anybody know of a good tutorial on how to get video drivers working?
[06:43] <Kyral> gleesond: you mean like the ATI and NVidia drivers?
[06:43] <gleesond> ATI
[06:43] <Jowi> william: ok. looked funny when you said "off of the HDD" :)
[06:43] <GingerbreadMan> gleesond: there are a lot of good HOWTOs on ubuntuforums.org
[06:43] <freelove> Agrajag: and then? what to do after clean install? to get back everything.........
[06:43] <Kyral> !Ati
[06:43] <ubotu> methinks ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[06:43] <sethk> GingerbreadMan, you can't get a "no rule to make target" when you do make bzImage modules modules_install install
[06:44] <Kyral> gleesond: look what Ubotu saud
[06:44] <gean> hi all !
[06:44] <Agrajag> freelove: put it back where you found it.
[06:44] <william> Ugh
[06:44] <GingerbreadMan> sethk: well believe it or not, I am
[06:44] <william> Says I need to install the latest version of JRE
[06:44] <sethk> GingerbreadMan, you gave them in the wrong order, by the way
[06:44] <sethk> GingerbreadMan, did you configure first?
[06:44] <sethk> GingerbreadMan, make xconfig or menuconfig or oldconfig?
[06:44] <Kyral> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=468342&postcount=33 <--General Apt-Get Tutorial
[06:45] <GingerbreadMan> sethk: yes, I did configure
[06:45] <freelove> Agrajag: i tried that with gaim......but it never happened....gaim opened like as default:(
[06:45] <sethk> GingerbreadMan, try the correct order, although it shouldn't matter
[06:45] <sethk> GingerbreadMan, also, try one at a time so we can see which fails.  start with make bzImage
[06:45] <kenkku> hello, back with the same problem, whoever who helped me, if you remember.. installed kernel headers (dunno if they were the right ones? it said kernel headers so I think :D) but still same..
[06:45] <Agrajag> freelove: then you didn't put it back where you found it.
[06:45] <GingerbreadMan> sethk: the order shouldn't matter, but trying just bzImage or modules is a good idea
[06:45] <freelove> Agrajag: i did...str8 in my home dir
[06:46] <sethk> GingerbreadMan, it shouldn't matter, but something is screwed up.
[06:46] <Absenth> kenkku did you use apt, or synaptic to install your kernel headers?
[06:46] <GingerbreadMan> sethk: make bzImage just screwed up
[06:46] <oKtosiTe> Does anyone know a livecd with a built-in ftp server? It's urgent.
[06:46] <kenkku> Absenth: synaptic
[06:47] <GingerbreadMan> which is odd considering I just configured 802.11 support to be built as a module...
[06:47] <gean> have a great problem : all my xterm-processes crash after some 20 - 40 seconds ... i can sometimes see some error message ... GLIB2.0 is inside ... before the window alert [ gnome-terminal crash ]  (or so) appers . Any1 has experienced the same problem? Can somebody please help me ?!
[06:47] <coz> still checking spiderbatdad
[06:47] <^rob^> hi
[06:47] <Kyral> wow, mandriva cloak
[06:47] <Kyral> nice
[06:47] <^rob^> how can i set ubuntu to not sincronize clock any more?
[06:48] <GingerbreadMan> hmm, I still get the same error even with make modules
[06:48] <douglas> When I plug in an external usb drive sometimes I can't mount it because it doesn't exist in /dev/sd* ?
[06:48] <GingerbreadMan> although now dealing with ieee80211_crypt.o
[06:48] <Kyral> ^rob^: I think its in Time Settings someplace
[06:48] <^rob^> on boot - i see syncronizing ntp clock ... clock.ubuntu.org?
[06:48] <coz> can't get the .deb package for gyach to work on ubuntu on my system
[06:48] <coz>  could me my system
[06:48] <^rob^> Kyral: this system will be closed in a intranet - with no internet connection
[06:48] <Kyral> ^rob^: ah
[06:49] <^rob^> after i boot - it will stay a long to sync...
[06:49] <Kyral> in that case it will just fail outright
[06:49] <Kyral> nope
[06:49] <Kyral> no internet conn it will faill off the bat
[06:49] <kenkku> ^rob^: right click the clock, select adjust time & date
[06:49] <Kyral> believe me I knwo :P
[06:49] <^rob^> kenkku: set as server mode - no desktop there
[06:49] <sethk> GingerbreadMan, I'd try a make clean.  If that doesn't work, a make distclean.  You'll have to configure again after distclean
[06:49] <kenkku> ^rob^: ah ok :P
[06:50] <GingerbreadMan> sethk: I've actually tried that multiple times already
[06:50] <^rob^> Kyral:  i'll do a test - brb
[06:50] <kenkku> Absenth: should I have used something else than synaptic?
[06:50] <Kyral> I'm going to class actually
[06:52] <sethk> GingerbreadMan, then reinstall the source and start over
[06:53] <sethk> GingerbreadMan, I prefer to use the source from kernel.org, it avoids these problems, but then you lose package management of the kernel
[06:53] <rudiz> mannyman??
[06:53] <mannyman> rudiz, ?
[06:53] <gean> have a great problem : all my xterm-processes crash after some 20 - 40 seconds ... i can sometimes see some error message ... GLIB2.0 is inside ... before the window alert [ The application gnome-terminal has quit unexpectedly ]  (or so) appears . Any1 has experienced the same problem? Can somebody please help me ?!
[06:53] <rudiz> what was the problem?
[06:53] <GingerbreadMan> sethk: yeah, I was going to try using the vanilla kernel if I couldn't get it to work with ubuntu's... package management of the kernel isn't really a big deal to me anyway
[06:54] <GingerbreadMan> sethk: thanks for trying
[06:54] <rudiz> maybe i can help witj it?
[06:54] <rudiz> with*
[06:54] <GingerbreadMan> I think before I try the fresh kernel, I'll see if there is some issue with the makefile...
[06:55] <william> How do I install Java?
[06:55] <rudiz> mannyman, an error message?
[06:55] <Jowi> !java
[06:55] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[06:55] <mannyman> gpg, fixed here ...
[06:55] <orkin> ok, this linuxant site has me download this listmodem.sh file. how do I run this file and if I know the model no. of my modem do I need to run this? why cant the website just have a dropdownbox for me to select my model and it to bring me to the things I need?
[06:55] <rudiz> ok
[06:55] <rudiz> u find the siteof ubuntu?
[06:55] <viscount> anyone know how to disable a firefox media plugin? I want to remove the totem mozilla plugin, so mplayer can take over, i dont want to remove all of totem though.
[06:56] <Jowi> orkin: usually "sh listmodem.sh"
[06:56] <linuxboy_> salut !
[06:56] <mannyman> rudiz, http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/topic-61123.html
[06:56] <Jowi> orkin: which modem?
[06:56] <rudiz> viscount, remove totem-gstreamer
[06:56] <deFrysk> viscount, remove totemrelated plugins from /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[06:57] <linuxboy_> test.c:3: glib.h: No such file or directory
[06:57] <linuxboy_> make: *** [test.o]  Erreur 1
[06:57] <linuxboy_>  ?
[06:57] <Absenth> I'm so close to being windows free on my laptop I can taste it.
[06:57] <orkin> Conexant E93908 modem
[06:57] <kenkku> Absenth: should I use apt instead of synaptic or something?
[06:58] <Absenth> kenkku, sorry about that, got pulled into a super brief meeting and forgot all about that.
[06:58] <Absenth> kenkku, open a terminal, and do uname -a
[06:58] <linuxboy_> elle se trouve ou la library glib.h
[06:58] <Jowi> orkin: this what you're looking for? http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hsf/full/downloads-ubuntu-x86.php
[06:58] <kenkku> Absenth: 2.6.12-10-386
[06:58] <kenkku> Absenth: I installed the headers for that version I believe
[06:58] <Absenth> kenkku,  which kernel header package did you download via synaptic?
[06:59] <kenkku> Absenth: let me check..
[06:59] <_jason> linuxboy, libglib2.0-dev
[06:59] <Absenth> kenkku,  go into /usr/src and you'll have to unpack the kernel headers (as well as any kernel source you may have downloaded)
[06:59] <linuxboy> _jason: hey?
[06:59] <erUSUL> !fr
[06:59] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[07:00] <_jason> linuxboy, dans package libglib2.0-dev
[07:00] <BlueDevil> linuxboy_: libglib2.0-dev: /usr/include/glib-2.0/glib.h
[07:00] <viscount> yay! http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/x3/large.html
[07:00] <linuxboy> BlueDevil, _jason: I didn't ask anything!
[07:00] <kenkku> Absenth: I installed packages linux-headers-2.6.12-10-286 AND linux-headers-2.6.12-10.. is it bad?
[07:00] <viscount> deFrysk: thx that worked
[07:00] <kenkku> Absenth: *386
[07:00] <linuxboy> BlueDevil, _jason: oh, there was linuxboy and linuxboy_
[07:00] <Absenth> kenkku,  which package/application are you trying to install?  (and no that's not bad.)
[07:00] <ubun-newbie> hi is there any program like winamp on windows but this is ubuntu
[07:01] <_jason> linuxboy, oops yeah sry about that
[07:01] <Absenth> ubun-newbie, xmms :)
[07:01] <deFrysk> ubun-newbie, beep-media-player
[07:01] <kenkku> Absenth: nforce drivers for my nforce2 chipset
[07:01] <ubun-newbie> so i do apt-get install xmms
[07:01] <Millenniumgroup> cp-i linux.pdf /home/oscar/Desktop/test Why isn't it asking me if I want to copy it or not?
[07:01] <BlueDevil> linuxboy: i answered to linuxboy_
[07:01] <Absenth> kenkku, ahh....
[07:01] <Absenth> kenkku, in /usr/src have you unpacked the ziped headers and source?
[07:01] <gean> all my x-terminals are CRASHING .... can somebody please help me ! give me a hint to reinstall and/or remove stuff...
[07:01] <linuxboy> BlueDevil: I know, mine highlighted because it matched linuxboy
[07:02] <shivy> hya
[07:02] <rickest> downloaded 5-10, md5sum checks out but when I mount the .ISO image and md5sum it against the original ISO file, I get 11 missing or failed files.  anyone know anything about that?
[07:02] <BlueDevil> gean: what do you mean?
[07:02] <kenkku> Absenth: mm nope I haven't done it manually.. if it isn't done automatically, then they're not there :)
[07:02] <gean> have a great problem : all my xterm-processes crash after some 20 - 40 seconds ... i can sometimes see some error message ... GLIB2.0 is inside ... before the window alert [ The application gnome-terminal has quit unexpectedly ]  (or so) appears .
[07:02] <Absenth> kenkku, you'll need to open the terminal, and cd /usr/src
[07:02] <ubun-newbie> W: Kunde inte ta status p kllkodspaketlistan http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 Filen eller katalogen finns inte)
[07:02] <deFrysk> rickest, try burning the cd at a lower speed
[07:03] <shivy> How can I edit my files while in usermode Quanta which are in /var/www   I tried " chmod ug+rw /var/www " but that didnt do it
[07:03] <ubun-newbie> something is missin when i do apt-get install xmms
[07:03] <rickest> deFrysk: I'm not burning a cd, I'm mounting the ISO itself and still get the error
[07:03] <gean> now event the message [ gnome terminal has quit]  no longer appears..
[07:03] <Millenniumgroup> ubun-newbie, yeah the rep isn't there
[07:03] <deFrysk> !tell ubun-newbie about repos
[07:03] <Absenth> kenkku, then 'sudo tar jfvz filename'   (assuming it ends in .bz2)  :)
[07:03] <xored> someone has an idea how to make psybnc working with ksirc ?
[07:03] <kenkku> Absenth: a-ha! ok unpacking them :)
[07:03] <deFrysk> ubun-newbie, read ubotus message and check if you understand the howto
[07:04] <shivy> Im trying to edit Straight in /var/www . How could I do That if it doesnt let me write in the /var/www folder
[07:04] <Fujoor>  /quit
[07:04] <BlueDevil> shivy: you can try adding yourself to the www-data group
[07:04] <xored> someone has an idea how to make psybnc working with ksirc ?
[07:05] <ubun-newbie> yes i had to do sudo apt-get update
[07:05] <Falcon> hi, I have Kubuntu. How to disable automatic mounting of CDroms and pedrives when inserted or connected? I dont want kde to open a window with mounted directory nor to mount a device.
[07:05] <gean> BlueDevil : this happens after some 100 days of clean ubuntu working OS... can it be, that after some update the GLIB-library no longer works properly ?!
[07:05] <Absenth> kenkku, the other thing I noticed about the headers in ubuntu is that the default path /usr/src/include you'll have to change the path to /usr/src/(unzippeddirectoryhere)/include
[07:05] <ubun-newbie> xmms
[07:05] <ubun-newbie> libmikmod.so.2: kan inte ppna delad objektfil: Filen eller katalogen finns inteMessage: device: default
[07:05] <jpetersen> hi, has anybody nss-mdns with avahi running on the last dapper version?
[07:06] <kenkku> Absenth: hmm tar complains about conflicting options you sure that's right? it's .tar.bz2
[07:06] <Absenth> kenkku, hold on, lemme check....
[07:06] <deFrysk> ubun-newbie, make sure you have multiverse AND universe in the repos
[07:06] <kenkku> Absenth: hmm wait no, they ARE unpacked already.. did it automatically I guess
[07:06] <Jowi> ubun-newbie: sudo apt-get install libmikmod2
[07:07] <Millenniumgroup> ubun-newbie it helps if you translate the swedish part - english :D
[07:07] <BlueDevil> Falcon: go to system settings->storage media and under "medium types" select "mounted removeable media" select "do nothing" and click "toggle as auto action"
[07:07] <deFrysk> !se
[07:07] <ubotu> deFrysk: What?
[07:07] <gean> one can instal [unp]  (general unp-acking tool) to get rid of special technical -xvf when unpacking...
[07:07] <deFrysk> no swedish room ?
[07:07] <_jason> Absenth, kenkku don't use the z, z and j are different formats
[07:07] <Millenniumgroup> ubun-newbie there is a swedish ubuntu channel
[07:07] <ubun-newbie> xmms
[07:07] <ubun-newbie> Message: device: default
[07:07] <deFrysk> !sweden
[07:07] <ubotu> deFrysk: No idea
[07:07] <BlueDevil> gean: that is unlikely, but possible
[07:08] <gundu> every time when i type sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start nothing happens and the error.log and /var/log/messages files are empty. i installed it as the wiki told
[07:08] <Millenniumgroup> hold on guys
[07:08] <Millenniumgroup> go here #ubuntu.se
[07:08] <Millenniumgroup> swedish ^
[07:08] <Absenth> kenkku, then the only other thing you might need to change during the install, use /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386/include (vs the more likely default of /usr/src/include)
[07:08] <Watersofhell> Is there a such command that you can run from a terminal that can actually print text to the screen and not in the terminal window ?
[07:08] <ubun-newbie> so how i listen to radio
[07:08] <ubun-newbie> on xmms
[07:08] <BlueDevil> Watersofhell: man xmessage
[07:08] <Absenth> _jason, thanks, tar xfvj *.tar.bz2    (makes a note of that)
[07:09] <gean> BlueDevil : the only chance i have to get a console is to run it into emacs ... very strange situation... and there it works...
[07:09] <Watersofhell> Thanks alot BlueDevil!
[07:09] <BlueDevil> Watersofhell: yw
[07:09] <Falcon> BlueDevil: I don't have "Storage media" icon
[07:09] <xored> someone has an idea how to make psybnc working with ksirc ?
[07:09] <BlueDevil> Falcon: kde 3.5?
[07:10] <Falcon> I guess - the latest one from 5.10
[07:10] <ubun-newbie> how do i play radio station on xmms
[07:10] <deFrysk> ubun-newbie, install xmms-mad
[07:10] <deFrysk> for mp3 support
[07:10] <rudiz> mannyman: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=92672
[07:10] <Jowi> Watersofhell: you can also use zenity
[07:10] <Falcon> BlueDevil: kdelibs                          3.4.3-0ubuntu1
[07:10] <orkin> ok wtf, I have to pay for linux modem drivers?
[07:11] <slept> ubun-newbie, open the url with the file+ button look at the playlist
[07:11] <deFrysk> !tell ubun-newbie about restricted formats
[07:11] <gean> ubun-newbie : there is a MENU option (L- or R-mouse on xmms) :  open Location : then give the location..
[07:11] <deFrysk> ubun-newbie, read ubotu's message and see if you can find there what you need
[07:11] <BlueDevil> Falcon: and under hardware you don't have storage media?
[07:11] <Jowi> Watersofhell: example: zenity --info --text hello!
[07:11] <slept> ubun-newbie, or rightclick open with in your browser
[07:11] <Falcon> BlueDevil: correct - no such icon
[07:12] <deluxe___> can anybody tell me what packages i would need to have to get my linksys wusb11 v2.6 wireless adapter working under ubuntu and if i have to use ndiswrapper how would i go about getting ndiswrapper to work with it
[07:12] <BlueDevil> Falcon: and what popup do you get when inserting media?
[07:12] <FRZ> hi
[07:12] <erUSUL> !wifi
[07:12] <ubotu> I guess wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[07:12] <ubun-newbie> i dont have mp3's i want to listen radio
[07:12] <FRZ> ive got a question, how do i enable my pcmcia wlan card?
[07:12] <Erron> I read a page that says I can use SOCK_DGRAM to do icmp instead of SOCK_RAW if i'm using a user with non root priv is that correct?
[07:13] <BlueDevil> Falcon: by reading the kde changelogs i saw that was introduced in 3.5
[07:13] <Jowi> !ndiswrapper
[07:13] <ubotu> rumour has it, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[07:13] <Ng> ubun-newbie: do you have a tv/radio card?
[07:13] <deFrysk> ubun-newbie, read ubotus message first it tell you how to install the needed codecs and stuff
[07:13] <ubun-newbie> it works fine on winamp i just choose radio station
[07:13] <erUSUL> !tell ubun-newbie about mp3
[07:13] <Falcon> BlueDevil: window (like konqueror one) with media:/hdc
[07:13] <ubun-newbie> i dont want mp3 i want to get list of radio stations
[07:13] <Agrajag> ubun-newbie: most online radiostations use mp3
[07:13] <deFrysk> ubun-newbie, please read the message
[07:14] <Absenth> ubun-newbie, if the "radio station" is online, you still need the mp3 component as that's how 90% of them are sent to your computer.
[07:14] <Ng> he might have an actual radio card
[07:14] <deFrysk> otherwise youl never hear any radio
[07:14] <Ng> in which case he wants xmms-fmradio from universe I guess
[07:14] <koyoda> hello all, I'm using ubuntu 5.10 (breezy) and I wanted to ask what repositories should I add to /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[07:14] <Agrajag> Ng: I don't think Winamp does that
[07:14] <Ng> (or rather, a tv card)
[07:14] <Ng> Agrajag: I wouldn't know :)
[07:14] <deFrysk> anyway , I'm off
[07:15] <misfit_toy> ubun-newbie, try streamtuner
[07:15] <ubun-newbie> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg
[07:15] <ubun-newbie> i did now this
[07:16] <Erder> Is anyone using upnpd daemon in his linux based router?
[07:16] <DjaFollah> hi
[07:17] <rudiz> koyoda,  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=92672
[07:18] <levander> Apparently they've changed the command line options for mplayer in the version that's in Breezy.  Has anybody figured out the new options?  Specifically I'm having to looking around for the replacements for -aofile and -wavheader
[07:19] <binarydigit> try the man file?
[07:19] <levander> binarydigit: no kidding, i'm just wondering if anybody else has dug through and figured this stuff out yet
[07:19] <koyoda> rudiz, thanx :)
[07:19] <Jxpx> if i am a the founder of a channel , how can i put that the access list only can view the founder?
[07:19] <ubun-newbie> http://www.defjay.com/  how do i listen to this station
[07:19] <BlueDevil> Falcon: go to configure konqueror and under file associations look and *mounted actions
[07:19] <ubun-newbie> on xmms i play url but nothing happens
[07:20] <illustre> trying to find mplayer for ubuntu?
[07:20] <binarydigit> illustre: try the internet?
[07:20] <_jason> illustre, you are trying to install mplayer?
[07:21] <ubun-newbie> how do i see the radio stations on XMMS
[07:21] <illustre> yes but would like to find it via synaptic
[07:21] <_jason> ubotu, tell illustre about mplayer
[07:21] <illustre> binarydigit, nice job
[07:21] <binarydigit> thanks im doing my best
[07:21] <Stormx2> Uhg...
[07:21] <illustre> binarydigit, well u make a A#$#$#$ if tiysekf
[07:21] <Stormx2> ubun-newbie: You don't. Use BMPx
[07:22] <Xcerca> hey
[07:22] <binarydigit> i figured if you had the ability to go on irc, you had the ability to use google or goto the ubuntu website
[07:22] <ubun-newbie> i want to listen radio station with xmms
[07:22] <Agrajag> 10:21 < binarydigit> thanks im doing my best
[07:22] <Agrajag> 10:21 -!- NightSkies [i=jansky90@cable-roi-fffcdd00-129.dhcp.inet.fi]  has quit [Connection timed out] 
[07:22] <ubun-newbie> where are the radio channels like in winamp radio stations
[07:22] <Agrajag> 10:21 < Stormx2> Uhg...
[07:22] <bluefoxicy> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportRecommendedHardware  How does THAT strike you?
[07:22] <Stormx2> Someone give me a hand, why am I getting permission denied on some files which belong to me and are perfectly well permissioned...
[07:22] <Agrajag> agfh
[07:22] <Agrajag> oops
[07:22] <Stormx2> ubun-newbie: You can
[07:22] <illustre> _jason, thanks
[07:22] <Stormx2> ubun-newbie: You to the shoutcast homepage
[07:22] <Falcon> BlueDevil: thanks, there is something there... I'll try
[07:22] <_jason> illustre, np
[07:22] <Stormx2> ubun-newbie: find a station you like, and open it in XMMS
[07:23] <binarydigit> Stormx2: whats the permission set at
[07:23] <Stormx2> ubun-newbie: Although you should use BMP not XMMS >.>
[07:23] <Xcerca> how can you remove old version of ubuntu from grub loader,   so that it does have so much clutter on startup ?
[07:23] <spine_> you can look for the URl to hte stream and open location UBUN-NEWBIE
[07:23] <_jason> Stormx2, wow that's weird
[07:23] <Xcerca> doesn't
[07:23] <Stormx2> -rw-r--r--
[07:23] <Stormx2> Seems find doesn't it?
[07:23] <Stormx2> or, am I wrong?
[07:23] <ubun-newbie>  sudo apt-get install bmp
[07:23] <ubun-newbie> Lser paketlistor... Frdig
[07:23] <ubun-newbie> Bygger beroendetrd... Frdig
[07:23] <ubun-newbie> E: Kunde inte hitta paketet bmp
[07:23] <_jason> Stormx2, you are just trying to read the file?
[07:23] <ubun-newbie> no packet  bmp
[07:23] <mcphail> Is it possible to force a library which compiles as a static .a to compile to a dynamic .so?
[07:23] <Stormx2> Don't paste.
[07:23] <AngryParsley> so, I got x86-64 ubuntu working, except for DRI
[07:23] <ubun-newbie> are you joking
[07:23] <Stormx2> ubun-newbie: beep-media-player
[07:23] <spine_> me?
[07:24] <spine_> im not the funny type, no
[07:24] <binarydigit> bmpx is a lil better for radio stuff
[07:24] <Stormx2> Yep
[07:24] <AngryParsley> dmesg shows two lines which error out, and are probably the source of my troubles
[07:24] <Stormx2> BMPx has listing built-in
[07:24] <binarydigit> plus it has a media library
[07:24] <binarydigit> yea
[07:24] <kenkku> what are precompiled kernel interfaces?
[07:24] <Stormx2> I don't like it as much as standard BMP though.
[07:24] <BlueDevil> is there a package for bmpx?
[07:24] <AngryParsley> [   63.477172]  [drm:radeon_cp_init]  *ERROR* radeon_cp_init called without lock held
[07:24] <AngryParsley> [   63.477411]  [drm:drm_unlock]  *ERROR* Process 8343 using kernel context 0
[07:24] <Stormx2> BlueDevil: Look in synaptic.
[07:24] <binarydigit> yea they have a repository on the bmpx homepage
[07:24] <AngryParsley> I have no clue what the problem is :(
[07:24] <_jason> Stormx2, I'd give it executable permissions just to see if it will work.  What are you reading it with?
[07:24] <binarydigit> you need to add to your sources.list
[07:25] <Watersofhell> I need a big book of Linux commands
[07:25] <BlueDevil> Stormx2: i did, wouldn't have asked otherwise
[07:25] <Watersofhell> yep yep
[07:25] <Stormx2> BlueDevil: Read what binarydigit said
[07:25] <_jason> Watersofhell, like vasic terminal commands?
[07:25] <AngryParsley> I've googled around also, but most of the advice says to add the agpgart module
[07:25] <_jason> Watersofhell, basic*
[07:25] <AngryParsley> which makes no sense, because I have a PCI card
[07:25] <ubun-newbie> i installed bmp
[07:25] <Watersofhell> No like advance ones
[07:25] <ubun-newbie> now where are the radio stations
[07:26] <AngryParsley> can anyone help me with DRI?
[07:26] <binarydigit> ubun-newbie: use bmpx
[07:26] <binarydigit> it has a radio listing built in
[07:26] <Watersofhell> I have a book of basic commands
[07:26] <Watersofhell> and a site with basic commands
[07:26] <ubun-newbie> sudo apt-get install bmpx
[07:26] <ubun-newbie> no suck packet
[07:26] <Jxpx> if i am a the founder of a channel , how can i put that the access list only can view the founder?
[07:26] <ubun-newbie> such
[07:27] <erik> BZFLAG: anyone know a workaround for this error that i experience.. i'm on ubuntu breezy but i heard its a debian problem originaly .. i cant SHOOT
[07:27] <Stormx2> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5518 <-- What am I missing...
[07:27] <ubun-newbie> what is the real name of that bmpx
[07:27] <AngryParsley> hello? anyone?
[07:27] <ubun-newbie> apt-get install bmpx error
[07:27] <binarydigit> ubun-newbie: read up and see what i said about it
[07:27] <ubun-newbie> u said bmpx
[07:27] <binarydigit> read up further
[07:27] <ubun-newbie> there is np package
[07:27] <binarydigit> about where to get it
[07:27] <ubun-newbie> what
[07:27] <Stormx2> ubun-newbie: You need to add a repo.
[07:27] <spine_> i never liked beep media player i guess im used to winamp
[07:28] <diubidone> hey how do i access a pendrive on Xfce?
[07:28] <BlueDevil> Stormx2: sudo ls -ld soldatadmin
[07:28] <Stormx2> spine_: Beep media player is winamp 2.
[07:28] <ubun-newbie> can u use winamp allso on ubuntu
[07:28] <binarydigit> yea theres no great media player
[07:28] <spine_> XMMS is ht e gratest
[07:28] <spine_> the*
[07:28] <Stormx2> Why?
[07:28] <Stormx2> XMMS is BMP but in GTK1
[07:28] <Stormx2> BMP is just XMMS but better.
[07:28] <spine_> because it just works and u can skin it
[07:28] <ubun-newbie> where is the radio station on bmp
[07:28] <Stormx2> You can skin BMP just like XMMS >.>
[07:29] <Stormx2> XMMS + GTK2 + Added Functionality = BMP
[07:29] <spine_> i still dont like it, i guess is because i had problems with it
[07:29] <Stormx2> BlueDevil: drw-rw-rw-  2 barney barney 4096 2005-12-08 18:12 soldatadmin
[07:29] <spine_> and not XMMS
[07:29] <Stormx2> hmm
[07:29] <skar> hi, i've gentoo running, want to try out ubuntu latest, is there a way to install it on a partition from within gentoo itself, like mount the partition and install into the chroot or something similar?
[07:29] <Stormx2> fair enough
[07:29] <AngryParsley> seriously, glxgears gives me 200fps :(
[07:29] <ubun-newbie> where is the radio station on bmp
[07:29] <Tedd> Hey.
[07:29] <Tedd> A little help?
[07:30] <_jason> !ask
[07:30] <Tedd> My sound doesn't work.
[07:30] <Tedd> It was working last night, and today I turn on the monitor and now it's out.
[07:30] <Absenth> Stormx2, what's the package name for BMP?
[07:30] <ubun-newbie> where is the radio station on bmp
[07:30] <Tedd> I've been messing with ALSA controls but to no avail.
[07:30] <BlueDevil> Tedd: try "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp"
[07:30] <robotgeek> Absenth: beep-media-player
[07:30] <Watersofhell> If you go to google and type in dmp filetype:deb you will find a package there
[07:30] <Stormx2> Absenth: i beleive it is beep-media-player
[07:31] <ubun-newbie> where is the radio station on bmp
[07:31] <diubidone> anyone using xfce?
[07:31] <Watersofhell> bmp*
[07:31] <Tedd> BlueDevil, the device is busy it says hold on
[07:31] <spine_> xfce is whack, go gnome
[07:31] <Absenth> Stormx2, any addon packages required for mp3 playback?
[07:31] <Tedd> Bluedevil: Yeah. Busy.
[07:31] <Stormx2> Absenth: No, it has MP3 support natively
[07:31] <Absenth> spine_, heh, now XPDE?
[07:31] <spine_> in my opinion
[07:31] <BlueDevil> Tedd: you have an app exclusively locking the device
[07:31] <Absenth> spine_, not*
[07:31] <gundu> what the name for the java runtime development plugin for firefox 
[07:31] <Stormx2> BlueDevil: Read up
[07:32] <Stormx2> !java
[07:32] <diubidone> i need to access pendrive on xfce anyone know how?
[07:32] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[07:32] <Tedd> How can I? All I have open is X-Chat and now the terminal.
[07:32] <ubun-newbie> where is the radio station on bmp
[07:32] <ubun-newbie> where is the radio station on bmp
[07:32] <gundu> !javadebs
[07:32] <ubotu> rumour has it, javadebs is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[07:32] <Stormx2> diubidone: It mounted?
[07:32] <BlueDevil> Tedd: might be esd
[07:32] <Tedd> killall esd?
[07:32] <diubidone> yup
[07:32] <ubun-newbie> where is the radio station on bmp
[07:32] <ubun-newbie> where is the radio station on bmp
[07:32] <BlueDevil> Stormx2: lsattr soldatadmin
[07:32] <diubidone> Stormx2: i just can't access
[07:33] <diubidone> Stormx2: im noob
[07:33] <Xcerca> does anybody know how to remove old versions of Ubuntu off of grub loader?  after you do an update...
[07:33] <BlueDevil> Tedd: try that
[07:34] <Xcerca> can that even be done ?
[07:34] <Tedd> Bluedevil: I did 'killall esd' and now Rythmbox isn't playing any of my files. Brings up an exclamation point next to all of them.
[07:34] <gleesond> how do I upgrade to breezy without reinstalling?
[07:34] <_jason> ubotu, tell gleesond about breezy
[07:34] <BlueDevil> Tedd: i thought it wasn't playing anyway
[07:34] <Watersofhell> BlueDevil: Is there a command that disables the borders of xmessage or is there a command that just prints text to the screen anywhere that you tell it to ?
[07:34] <illustre> _jason, I ADDED the repositorie but it still does now show up on thel ist
[07:34] <Tedd> Bluedevil: It was playing, just nothing was coming out of my speakers. Now a big exclamation point comes up next to any file I try to play.
[07:35] <Xcerca> is there anything besides grub loader that you can use to boot OS's ?
[07:35] <BlueDevil> Tedd: do the cat I told you to
[07:35] <Tedd> I did, after I killed ESD.
[07:35] <_jason> !info mplayer-586
[07:35] <Agrajag> Xcerca: lilo
[07:35] <ubotu> mplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3670 kB, Installed size: 7928 kB
[07:35] <BlueDevil> Tedd: and?
[07:35] <_jason> illustre, did you reload the database?
[07:35] <illustre> indeed
[07:35] <Tedd> The result was nothing but those exclamation points. I'll try it again.
[07:36] <_jason> illustre, can you post your /etc/apt/sources.list on pastebin please
[07:36] <diubidone> i need to access pendrive on xfce anyone knows how?
[07:36] <Xcerca> agrajag do you use lilo ?
[07:36] <Agrajag> Xcerca: no
[07:36] <Tedd> BlueDevil, it doesn't say tedd@ubuntu:~$ in front of the terminal command anymore.
[07:36] <Tedd> That was the only noticeable change.
[07:36] <BlueDevil> Tedd: still no sound?
[07:36] <Tedd> Still nothin'.
[07:37] <BlueDevil> Tedd: sure the mixer channels aren't muted?
[07:37] <Tedd> Yeah. I checked in ALSA Mixer.
[07:37] <AngryParsley> so, does anyone have any advice on helping me get hardware acceleration working? dmesg says [drm:radeon_cp_init]  *ERROR* radeon_cp_init called without lock held
[07:37] <Watersofhell> I think I should really try ubuntu one day....
[07:37] <neighborlee> has anyone else noticed the scroll balls in gnome menus ?
[07:37] <AngryParsley> I have the proper modules loaded and I'm pretty sure my xorg.conf is set up properly
[07:38] <dietze> hi, anyone could help me with my printer? Should be very simple
[07:38] <illustre> _jason, http://pastebin.com/454329
[07:39] <Tedd> Bluedevil: Any other ideas?
[07:39] <unimatrix9> hi there
[07:39] <unimatrix9> i am installing ubuntu, but
[07:39] <codo> when i do startx i get this error no core pointer
[07:39] <peter__> bonsoir
[07:39] <Tedd> BlueDevil, I
[07:39] <codo> i guess its the issue of mouse not being able to be detected
[07:39] <_jason> illustre, what's that grawert.net warty stuff for?  Anyway, you don't have multiverse enabled.  add multiverse to line 3.
[07:39] <AngryParsley> anyone?
[07:39] <codo> can anyone of you tell me this ?
[07:40] <AngryParsley> :(
[07:40] <peter__> problem reboot ubuntu ?
[07:40] <Tedd> am gonna try restarting, and
[07:40] <unimatrix9> forgot to put in the soudncard, stupid eh?, will it auto detect it when i put it in and reboot?
[07:40] <binarydigit> ubun-newbie: install bmpx
[07:40] <shivy> how can I add permission for user on a map
[07:40] <shivy> writing permission
[07:40] <codo> Option "device"
[07:40] <Tedd> (sorry about the enters) and try taht. Be back in a few.
[07:40] <binarydigit> google bmpx, get the repository on the website, add it to your source.list
[07:40] <ubun-newbie> how
[07:40] <binarydigit> then apt-get update
[07:40] <codo> what should i give mouse devide as there ?
[07:40] <shivy> chmod doesnt work
[07:40] <_jason> illustre, you may just want to recreate your sources.list, I will send you a link that makes it easy
[07:40] <binarydigit> and then install package bmpx
[07:40] <_jason> ubotu, tell illustre about easysource
[07:41] <peter__> help when i reboot ubuntu   BUG no reboot
[07:41] <unimatrix9> putting in an soundcard ( new ) should auto detect and set it up?
[07:42] <AngryParsley> can people at least respond to me?
[07:42] <unimatrix9> i can, put i am in for an quest of my own..
[07:42] <orkin> how do i run a .deb file?
[07:42] <unimatrix9> :)
[07:42] <BlueDevil> AngryParsley: sorry i never had an ATI board :(
[07:43] <Watersofhell> AngryParsly: There are alot of people in this channel you most likely were just over looked.
[07:43] <AngryParsley> BlueDevil: what's weird is that I got this same graphics card working in another computer
[07:43] <Watersofhell> Me I'm a newbie so I can't be much of help at all
[07:43] <AngryParsley> I guess the x86-64 modules are different or something
[07:43] <scrooch> hi] 
[07:43] <Tedd> BlueDevil: No change.
[07:43] <BlueDevil> AngryParsley: i saw some tutorials on that though, did you try that?
[07:44] <scrooch> http://www.l1.nl/l1/nl/html/algemeen/internetradio/internetradio.pshe#
[07:44] <unimatrix9> if i put in an soundcard, ubunut sets it up without problems?
[07:44] <BlueDevil> Tedd: amixer sget Master
[07:44] <AngryParsley> BlueDevil: I've looked all over the ubuntu forums and nothing has helped
[07:44] <Tedd> ?
[07:44] <Tedd> k
[07:44] <scrooch> How can I get this internet radio working? http://www.l1.nl/l1/nl/html/algemeen/internetradio/internetradio.pshe#
[07:44] <scrooch> it is using some ' mms ' type of thing : s
[07:44] <BlueDevil> Tedd: amixer sget PCM
[07:44] <AngryParsley> BlueDevil: I've got the right modules set to load, but one of them gives an error in dmesg
[07:44] <scrooch> tried totem (xine) mplayer xmms....
[07:44] <unimatrix9> srcooch , hold on
[07:44] <scrooch> thank you unimatrix9
[07:44] <scrooch> mms://212.54.36.46/l1radio
[07:45] <AngryParsley> some places say to load the agpgart module
[07:45] <scrooch> this link to be presice
[07:45] <BlueDevil> AngryParsley: there was a tutorial on sourceforge (i think)
[07:45] <Tedd> BlueDevil: Did both just now.  Should I pastebin the results?
[07:45] <AngryParsley> of course, that module doesn't exist, and I don't have an AGP slot on this motherboard anyway
[07:45] <neomatrix> what is the root password for ubuntu live cd?
[07:45] <AngryParsley> BlueDevil: on sourceforge? no
[07:45] <AngryParsley> BlueDevil: do you have a link?
[07:46] <BlueDevil> Tedd: yes
[07:46] <BlueDevil> AngryParsley: don't remember the link, I stumbled upon it by mistake
[07:46] <kenkku> do I have to do something special to get wmv files working?
[07:46] <AngryParsley> heh
[07:46] <Tedd> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5519
[07:46] <emi> hello guys. I'm planning on upgrading my pc with a new graphics card. I would like some nVidia card since they seem to have better drivers. Is there some automatic way of installing those or it's just ./nvidia-downloaded-driver.sh and so on to the module compilation ?
[07:47] <Tedd> BlueDevil: There ya go
[07:47] <Tedd> Lemme restart and NOT do the killall esd thing, I'lll be right back.
[07:47] <neomatrix> some one let me know the root password for the live cd distro of ubuntu
[07:47] <neomatrix> version 5.10
[07:48] <orkin> hey, so I downloaded this driver for my modem, it's a .deb file, how do I install it?
[07:48] <kenkku> neomatrix: there's no root in ubuntu (not sure about livecd) use sudo with your own pass
[07:48] <unimatrix9> scrouch : cant play it over here
[07:48] <unimatrix9> seems to be some offbeat format
[07:48] <emi> neomatrix: sudo sh then type your pass
[07:48] <scrooch> oh mennn :( unimatrix9
[07:48] <koyoda> orkin: dpkg -i modem.deb
[07:49] <neomatrix> thanks kenkku: do u know how to install ubuntu onto the hard disk thru the live cd?
[07:49] <kenkku> neomatrix: hmm, dont know how but i can look it up for you
[07:49] <coz> hello all again
[07:49] <scrooch> ill try vlc unimatrix9
[07:50] <unimatrix9> ill try mplayer right now
[07:50] <neomatrix> sure...me too trying google for it..hehe
[07:50] <coz> no mplayer
[07:50] <SWAT> bor, ping
[07:50] <neomatrix> thx
[07:50] <scrooch> there are some mms codecs in the reps, but i dont know how to use them; they are libs
[07:50] <SWAT> bor, are you there?
[07:50] <coz> scrooch what are you trying to do?
[07:50] <scrooch> mms://212.54.36.46/l1radio  getting this stream to work coz
[07:50] <unimatrix9> trying to play mms://212.54.36.46/l1radio
[07:51] <coz> ok
[07:51] <scrooch> tried gstreamer, xine and mplayer already
[07:51] <coz> how about totem-xine
[07:51] <unimatrix9> mms protocol is the bad side
[07:51] <zool2005> good evening
[07:51] <scrooch> no luch with vlc
[07:52] <Tedd> BlueDevil: Anything interesting?
[07:52] <coz> whoa good evening where are you?
[07:52] <zool2005> France
[07:52] <DBAlex> Hey
[07:52] <DBAlex> Small question
[07:52] <BlueDevil> Tedd: output looks normal :(
[07:52] <coz> Oh no wonder only 1:52 in afternoon here US
[07:52] <_jason> scrooch, are you sure the stream plays?  for example on windows?
[07:52] <coz> thursday
[07:52] <jordo23> Hey peeps
[07:52] <DBAlex> How do i get the workspaces icons back to the right of the gnome panel?
[07:53] <zool2005> it's nearly 8pm here
[07:53] <BlueDevil> Tedd: cables ok? tried plug out/in?
[07:53] <scrooch> _jason, no
[07:53] <Tedd> Already done yeah
[07:53] <DBAlex> somehow i got them to go on the left
[07:53] <DBAlex> and cant change em back :S
[07:53] <BlueDevil> Tedd: using analog?
[07:53] <scrooch> _jason, i dont have windows at hand unfortunately
[07:53] <Tedd> Wha?
[07:53] <DBAlex> Hello?
[07:53] <DBAlex> :S
[07:53] <coz> right click the workspace unlick right click again move
[07:53] <unimatrix9> if i put in an soundcard, ubunut sets it up without problems?
[07:53] <coz> unlock
[07:53] <BlueDevil> Tedd: analog output or digital?
[07:53] <orkin> dpkg requires superuser privelages
[07:53] <orkin> wtf I am superyser arent I?
[07:53] <zool2005> ok, I'm a ubuntu newbie and I want to install skypeXXXX.deb package, can anyone help?
[07:53] <jordo23> Does anyone know why whenever I try to get a program through apt-get it states it cant find the program. Then when I update my sources.list...I get errors everytime I try to install something.
[07:53] <_jason> orkin, sudo
[07:53] <illustre> A STAR next to a pkg in synaptic what does it mean?
[07:53] <drakoutlaw> hi all
[07:53] <BlueDevil> unimatrix9: yes, it should do that if the soundcard is supported and detected properly
[07:54] <coz> yeah skype doesn't work unless you get the previou verrsion through automatix
[07:54] <unimatrix9> ok thanx
[07:54] <DBAlex> doesnt work :S
[07:54] <DBAlex> The move thing is greyed out
[07:54] <DBAlex> :|
[07:54] <unimatrix9> setting up an demo ubuntu pc for school
[07:54] <unimatrix9> :)
[07:54] <LoPMX> why desn't ubuntu has it's own desktop manager?
[07:54] <jgrieves> where does debian put X11 libs?
[07:54] <coz> download automatix , set it up and use it to install skype
[07:54] <zool2005> automatix??
[07:54] <coz>  I have it working on my machine
[07:54] <kenkku> is there an installer for ubuntu livecd to install it on hdd?
[07:54] <BlueDevil> LoPMX: like what? ubuntuDE
[07:54] <zool2005> what is automatix?
[07:54] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell zool2005 about skype
[07:54] <Agrajag> kenkku: no
[07:55] <coz> go to brwoser type automatix go to page and donwload
[07:55] <Agrajag> you need the install cd
[07:55] <coz> to desktop
[07:55] <jgrieves> robotgeek where does debian put X11 libs?
[07:55] <robotgeek> zool2005: you don't need automatix
[07:55] <kenkku> Agrajag: any way to install it?
[07:55] <coz> true
[07:55] <DBAlex> oh fuck
[07:55] <jgrieves> its not in /usr/X11r6/lib
[07:55] <DBAlex> ive just deleted the desktops thing
[07:55] <DBAlex> HELP!
[07:55] <robotgeek> jgrieves: dpkg -L <packagename> | less
[07:55] <DBAlex> :O
[07:55] <coz> automatix helps
[07:55] <DBAlex> !!!!!!!!!!!
[07:55] <ubotu> DBAlex: I don't know, could you explain it?
[07:55] <orkin> status database area is locked by another process
[07:55] <robotgeek> coz: he is a new user, it enables root and all. no need for that
[07:55] <Agrajag> kenkku: yes, get the install cd. Or the live DVD, which has an installer
[07:55] <DBAlex> Ive just deleted the thing where you can change desktops in the gnome panel/taskbar
[07:55] <Tedd> BlueDevIL: No clue.
[07:56] <coz> new users have to learn that as well
[07:56] <jgrieves> robotgeek what is X11 packagename?
[07:56] <DBAlex> !!!
[07:56] <ubotu> well, ! is what you add before a sentence to talk to me
[07:56] <zool2005> can I install the .deb package?
[07:56] <coz> it makes installation easier if you need ai can walk you through it
[07:56] <Agrajag> but from the livecd, I don't think there's much you can do, unless the CD comes with debootstrap or something
[07:56] <LoPMX> BlueDevil, dunno, like a new, good, well designed one
[07:56] <kenkku> Agrajag: nah I don't have it but neomatrix wants to know.
[07:56] <DBAlex> How can i get it back~?
[07:56] <_jason> orkin, what are you trying to do?  be sure you don't have synaptic or update manager open since they use the same database as dpkg
[07:56] <drakoutlaw> for automatix see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=433604
[07:56] <kenkku> neomatrix: no install.. you have to get the install cd or live dvd
[07:56] <jordo23> Does anyone know why I cannot download anything from Apt with a default installation of Ubuntu?
[07:56] <DBAlex> edit the .list file
[07:57] <DBAlex> :P
[07:57] <BlueDevil> Tedd: how many cables running from the sound card to the speakers? what speakers? 5.1? 2.1? 2.0?
[07:57] <_jason> jordo23, do you get an error of some kind?
[07:57] <coz> what are you trying to download?
[07:57] <DBAlex> and sudo apt-get update
[07:57] <robotgeek> !tell jgrieves about xinclues
[07:57] <orkin> what other processes use status database area?
[07:57] <BlueDevil> LoPMX: what's wrong with gnome, kde, xfce, fluxbox?
[07:57] <coz> kde sucks
[07:57] <jgrieves> !ubuntu tell jgrieves about xincludes
[07:57] <drakoutlaw> jordo23 did u use sudo?
[07:57] <ubotu> jgrieves: Do they come in packets of five?
[07:57] <jordo23> _jason: Well, it states it can't find any packages. And when I update the sources.list file, then I get errors up the wazoo...
[07:57] <LoPMX> BlueDevil, just take a look ;] 
[07:57] <jgrieves> !ubotu tell jgrieves about xincludes
[07:57] <robotgeek> !tell jgrieves about xincldues
[07:57] <Tedd> Well, I have a subwoofer and four speakers.
[07:57] <jordo23> drakoutlaw: yes. I am familar with Debian
[07:57] <DBAlex> can someone help me, ive delete the icon where you can change desktops on the gnome panel
[07:57] <robotgeek> *err*
[07:57] <jgrieves> nothing
[07:57] <DBAlex> how do i restore it
[07:57] <_jason> jordo23, pastebin your sources.list as well as the errors you get
[07:57] <DBAlex> Thanks :D
[07:58] <robotgeek> !xincludes
[07:58] <ubotu> When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev
[07:58] <BlueDevil> Tedd: and how many cables?
[07:58] <jgrieves> perfect
[07:58] <jordo23> _jason: where should I paste it?
[07:58] <_jason> DBAlex, right click and add to panel... then look for desktop switcher or something similar
[07:58] <neomatrix> kennku: But how do i save files in that case onto the hardisk?
[07:58] <_jason> ubotu, tell jordo23 about pastebin
[07:58] <DBAlex> Ahhh
[07:58] <DBAlex> Thanks
[07:58] <DBAlex> Woot!
[07:58] <DBAlex> :D
[07:58] <BlueDevil> jordo23:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[07:59] <DBAlex> I have a sexy mac os x theme installed
[07:59] <DBAlex> its sweet
[07:59] <DBAlex> ive only been using ubuntu for 2 days
[07:59] <DBAlex> lol
[07:59] <coz> eeeww
[07:59] <coz> mac os
[07:59] <DBAlex> im a mac os x/windows switcher...
[07:59] <DBAlex> ... : D
[07:59] <DBAlex> anyone ever tried ubuntu on the mac mini??
[07:59] <sylvie> salut
[08:00] <DBAlex> (Im running on an athlon 64)
[08:00] <jgrieves> is the composite extension installed by default
[08:00] <coz> no how does it work on the mac mini?
[08:00] <Tedd> BlueDevil: In the computer right now, there are two of them.
[08:00] <jgrieves> !tell jgrieves about composite
[08:00] <DBAlex> Through the PPC version
[08:00] <sylvie> ya des francais ??!
[08:00] <coz> how about a pc mini
[08:00] <DBAlex> :S
[08:00] <LoPMX> d
[08:00] <DBAlex> No
[08:00] <raphink> sylvie: /join #ubuntu-fr
[08:00] <LoPMX> DBAlex, which theme?
[08:00] <DBAlex> Ummm
[08:00] <DBAlex> dunno, one from gnome-themes
[08:00] <DBAlex> 1 sec
[08:00] <Tedd> BlueDevil: From the subwoofer, there are four cables; one for each speaker.
[08:00] <DBAlex> wait
[08:00] <DBAlex> gnome look
[08:00] <DBAlex> .. 1 sec
[08:00] <raphink> sylvie: tape /join #ubuntu-fr pour rejoindre le chan francophone
[08:01] <robotgeek> jgrieves: you can chat with ubotu, man on man /msg ubotu hi :)
[08:01] <sylvie>  /join #ubuntu-fr
[08:01] <sylvie> salut
[08:01] <BlueDevil> :)
[08:01] <raphink> sylvie: sans l'espace ;)
[08:01] <jgrieves> robotgeek yep he just told me
[08:01] <sylvie> lol merci
[08:01] <unimatrix9> try again sylvie
[08:01] <jgrieves> robotgeek in fact he wouldn't talk to me otherwis e:)
[08:01] <unimatrix9> hehe
[08:01] <robotgeek> jgrieves: :)
[08:01] <_jason> heh how does lol translate in french?
[08:01] <DBAlex> LoPMX: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=27446
[08:01] <unimatrix9> au du lol
[08:01] <omeg> Hey guys.
[08:01] <jgrieves> robotgeek he said "hey $#%@$# stop spamming hte channel get your $%@$# client to use /msg
[08:02] <unimatrix9> :P
[08:02] <jgrieves> robotgeek quite rude...
[08:02] <robotgeek> jgrieves: :)
[08:02] <jgrieves> :)
[08:02] <john_> Hey.
[08:02] <BlueDevil> Tedd: and sound was working with just the two cables from sound card to subwoofer?
[08:02] <omeg> I'm wondering if anybody is experiencing the same graphics-related Ubuntu bug that I am.
[08:02] <unimatrix9> could be...
[08:02] <DBAlex> I cant even find drivers for mine
[08:02] <DBAlex> :S
[08:02] <omeg> I'm running 5.10 on a Toshiba Satellite 4090CDS. It runs 800x600x24.
[08:02] <jordo23> _jason: It's posted.....do you see it?
[08:02] <DBAlex> well none that are .deb packages
[08:02] <LoPMX> DBAlex, thanks, wanna see if it is better than mine ;] 
[08:02] <DBAlex> Yeah
[08:02] <omeg> But the bottom part of the screen contains garbage.
[08:02] <_jason> jordo23, paste the link here
[08:02] <DBAlex> its not bad
[08:02] <john_> Hey, an anyone point me to a good consumer support place?
[08:02] <unimatrix9> drivers for nvidia, on nvidia site, for ati, on the ati site..
[08:02] <DBAlex> stuff is on the right tho (Buttons)
[08:02] <DBAlex> :S : (
[08:02] <unimatrix9> right?
[08:03] <john_> I don't mind paying for support, I just don't know where to go.
[08:03] <Tedd> BlueDevil: I haven't looked at the wiring in a while. Lemme trace the cables.
[08:03] <jordo23> jason_: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/454358
[08:03] <LoPMX> DBAlex, what dock do u use?
[08:03] <omeg> The screen is still usable except a region of about 750-784 pixels, which are solely garbage. The effect doesn't occur when running 800x600 in Windows 98, or when running 640x480.
[08:03] <omeg> Anybody got a clue?
[08:03] <DBAlex> I dont
[08:03] <DBAlex> lol
[08:03] <rightcoast> join #infonomicon
[08:03] <rightcoast> sorry guys
[08:03] <DBAlex> I tried to install something called Engage last nite
[08:03] <rightcoast> forgot a slash
[08:04] <DBAlex> the repository was f*ked tho
[08:04] <DBAlex> Ubuntu didnt like it at all
[08:04] <DBAlex> it doesnt like WINE tho either
[08:04] <DBAlex> :(
[08:04] <DBAlex> Im tempted to get Crossover Office
[08:04] <DBAlex> ...
[08:04] <BlueDevil> jordo23: and the errors?
[08:04] <DBAlex> I need Photoshop!
[08:04] <DBAlex> lol
[08:04] <unimatrix9> gimp the lot
[08:04] <jordo23> BlueDevil:  One sec
[08:04] <Tedd> BlueDevil: Yeah, they were working with two wires running into the sound card.
[08:04] <DBAlex> The GIMP is no replacement for PS imho anyway
[08:04] <DBAlex> :\
[08:05] <DBAlex> neither is that crappy "Gimp Shop" or w/e its called
[08:05] <DBAlex> :\
[08:05] <omeg> Does GIMP have CMYK support yet?
[08:05] <DBAlex> LoPMX: Do you reccomend a dock?
[08:05] <DBAlex> I still want one
[08:05] <unimatrix9> if you are really so in need for photo shop , whats the point of using linux?
[08:05] <vbgunz> DBAlex: cause G requires just a new learning skill over PS... I can understand
[08:05] <DBAlex> Dont think so
[08:05] <BlueDevil> Tedd: can you power off/on the speakers? already tried?
[08:05] <DBAlex> heh
[08:05] <DBAlex> No, i just dont like Gimp
[08:05] <DBAlex> sorry :(
[08:06] <vbgunz> DBAlex: write Adobe and ask them why they playing themselves?
[08:06] <Tedd> Yeah. From the speakers individually and from the subwoofer BlueDevil
[08:06] <_jason> jordo23, you should uncomment lines 5 and 6 (those are the main packages!).  Add " multiverse" to the end of  lines 20, 21, 36 and 37.  If you want security updates, you should also uncommment 33,34,36 and 37.  (uncomment just means remove the beginning '#' on the line)
[08:06] <omeg> unimatrix9: some of us need Photoshop (not Photo Shop), whether it be for a hobby or for a job.
[08:06] <omeg> Doesn't mean we can't use Linux on a dual boot.
[08:06] <DBAlex> unimatrix9: because of windows viruses...
[08:06] <DBAlex> and im curious
[08:06] <DBAlex> lol :)
[08:06] <aimaz> what process is responsible for CDs being automatically mounted in ubuntu?
[08:06] <LoPMX> DBAlex, me just testing engage
[08:07] <BlueDevil> Tedd: can you plug the speakers into another sound source?
[08:07] <DBAlex> my job is a web designer
[08:07] <unimatrix9> some thing cant be done on linux, alas
[08:07] <DBAlex> so i cant really be using "The GIMP"
[08:07] <DBAlex> :S
[08:07] <LoPMX> DBAlex, then could u pls redesign my www.layer22.com? ;] 
[08:07] <DBAlex> :\
[08:07] <DBAlex> ok
[08:07] <DBAlex> Depends if you can pay or not
[08:07] <omeg> Me too, DBAlex. But this isn't my working computer. I primarily work with Flash, so that's no go.
[08:07] <LoPMX> DBAlex, ca
[08:07] <DBAlex> yeah
[08:07] <LoPMX> can
[08:08] <omeg> I use OSX for that.
[08:08] <DBAlex> cool
[08:08] <LoPMX> brb
[08:08] <DBAlex> my last client scammed me
[08:08] <DBAlex> so im a little wary at the moment
[08:08] <unimatrix9> brb? what program is that..lol
[08:08] <omeg> I can't wait for the x86 Mac hardware so I can triple boot Mac, Linux, and Windows...
[08:08] <Tedd> BlueDevil: There are other plugs, but none of the color codes match the plug. ANd besides, I tried before, it doesn't work.
[08:08] <vbgunz> DBAlex: if you spent less than a week trying to really understand the GIMP, trust me, you would probably appreciate it for more than PS anyway... PS is an expensive app. Gimp is free. Rather than invest 800 or so dollars on PS, invest two weeks into learning Gimp and you'll see a nice ROI
[08:08] <omeg> DBAlex: wow, really?
[08:08] <DBAlex> Yep
[08:08] <omeg> That's never happened to me...
[08:09] <BlueDevil> Tedd: can you plug another speakers into the sound card?
[08:09] <jordo23> _jason: add multiverse in place of universe or after it?
[08:09] <DBAlex> Damn bastard cancelled the paypal and everything
[08:09] <omeg> vbgunz: you can't tell that to professional designers, unfortunately.
[08:09] <Chousuke> omeg: legally too :D
[08:09] <DBAlex> trust me never work with gamers...
[08:09] <DBAlex> :\
[08:09] <rightcoast> DBAlex, i had a lady call asking me too "get back her website files"
[08:09] <Tedd> BlueDevil: There are other plugs, but none of the color codes match the plug. ANd besides, I tried before, it doesn't work.
[08:09] <_jason> jordo23, just after it
[08:09] <rightcoast> meaning steal them through computer b&e from the dev
[08:09] <BlueDevil> Tedd: dunno then
[08:09] <rightcoast> i called him and he told me she hadnt paid in over a year :\
[08:09] <unimatrix9> so if you use photoshop , you are suddenly an professional designer ...hmmm
[08:09] <DBAlex> lol
[08:09] <omeg> It takes longer than a week to fully understand a full graphics suite, and you can't spend that kind of time if you have to work. So it'll be maybe one hour a night.
[08:09] <omeg> unimatrix9: er.
[08:09] <omeg> When did I say that?
[08:10] <jgrieves> any ididea what Xm.h is?
[08:10] <jeed890> hi seveas u here?
[08:10] <DBAlex> unimatrix9: Hell no
[08:10] <DBAlex> ive been web designing for 3 years
[08:10] <omeg> Please do not put words in my mouth, unimatrix9.
[08:10] <vbgunz> omeg: I probably cannot tell that to an employee of someone who hired them to work *only* with Photoshop *but* if someone works for themselves... A two week investment in learning Gimp is much more professional imho :)
[08:10] <DBAlex> and im still beginner imho...
[08:10] <DBAlex> :|
[08:10] <john_> Where would one go to add a serial modem?
[08:10] <omeg> vbgunz: are you a designer?
[08:10] <john_> My PC card shows up as serial device, but I don't know where I go to treat it as a modem.
[08:11] <DBAlex> lol
[08:11] <vbgunz> omeg: not really but in theory it all stands true
[08:11] <Chousuke> as far as I know Gimp lacks pantone and stuff that make it not so attractive to pros.
[08:11] <unimatrix9> designers use an mac, i thought...
[08:11] <DBAlex> ask anyone who is a graphic/web/print designer... GIMP is no competition for Photoshop
[08:11] <DBAlex> :(
[08:11] <omeg> Because you don't seem like one. The reason being that everybody who is a designer is totally uninterested in learning a different graphics suite just because then they can use open source software. They don't use Photoshop because their employers force them to: they do it because it's the industry standard.
[08:11] <Chousuke> but complaining about gimp's UI is just lame :)
[08:11] <rightcoast> im not a design guy, i can gimpo a wallpaper together or whatever, nothing major
[08:12] <rightcoast> s/gimpo/gimp
[08:12] <LoPMX> holy fuck
[08:12] <jordo23> _jason: I posted the edited file....does this look right?    >>>    http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/454374
[08:12] <Chousuke> It's not like Photoshop's is any better. and a pro can work with any UI.
[08:12] <omeg> Also, designers don't design because they like to use graphics software: they do it because they like to design. Photoshop allows them to design. There is no reason to switch to GIMP with that reasoning.
[08:12] <LoPMX> DBAlex, just got enlightenment v.0.17 running
[08:12] <vbgunz> omeg: until everyone finds out Halo the movie is being entirely CGI'ed on a Linux farm :P
[08:12] <DBAlex> OMFG!
[08:12] <LoPMX> wow
[08:12] <DBAlex> O M F G
[08:12] <DBAlex> DUDE!
[08:12] <omeg> Chousuke: doesn't mean that they _will_.
[08:12] <DBAlex> link?
[08:12] <DBAlex> Please!
[08:12] <DBAlex> WooT!
[08:12] <Chousuke> omeg: of course.
[08:12] <LoPMX> wait a moment
[08:12] <Chousuke> omeg: but there are pros that work with the Gimp too :)
[08:13] <unimatrix9> i am not trying to anger anyone, please..
[08:13] <Chousuke> using photoshop where necessary.
[08:13] <DBAlex> :S
[08:13] <omeg> Chousuke: take it from me that the design sector is one sector that Linux will _not_ conquer. Nobody uses the GIMP except one or two individuals who happen to really like it.
[08:13] <BlueDevil> wtf does photoshop have to to with ubuntu?!
[08:13] <DBAlex> Doubt it
[08:13] <DBAlex> I mean
[08:13] <DBAlex> i know lots of designers
[08:13] <DBAlex> they think the gimp is a joke
[08:13] <DBAlex> :\
[08:13] <LoPMX> http://www.soulmachine.net/wiki/
[08:13] <omeg> Actually, the only times I've seen designers that use GIMP is at sites from designers that promote open source software.
[08:13] <LoPMX> hit it
[08:13] <omeg> Like Jimmac...
[08:13] <Chousuke> omeg: That's where you're wrong. You can't say it will not conquer.
[08:13] <LoPMX> IT IS SOOOO COOOL
[08:13] <_jason> go offtopic with the gimp stuff pls: #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:13] <DBAlex> thanks man :D
[08:14] <Chousuke> who knows if Gimp 3 will be 2020484 times better than Photoshop
[08:14] <vbgunz> omeg: that is true... see Ps is expensive... most people think that if they pay for something they get what they pay for whereas most people do not even realize such great work can be accomplished on Linux if *only* they would have invested there time and not there money... after all time = money :P
[08:14] <jordo23> The gimp is a joke....but so was Photoshop ten years ago.
[08:14] <omeg> Yes, I can. I am a designer, and I know the design industry. I don't think you can just state things like that if you don't know what you're talking about, Chousuke.
[08:14] <Chousuke> omeg: You don't know how Gimp will develop
[08:14] <jordo23> _jason: Did you look at the modified file?
[08:14] <DBAlex> brb dudes
[08:14] <Chousuke> omeg: or do you? are you a gimp dev?
[08:14] <unimatrix9> hmm, other topic?
[08:14] <unimatrix9> hehe
[08:14] <jgrieves> any idea what Xm.h library is?
[08:14] <vbgunz> haha
[08:15] <_jason> jordo23, sorry, I missed it.  Can you paste it again pls?
[08:15] <vbgunz> take over, the breaks over...
[08:15] <jordo23> _jason:   http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/454374
[08:15] <jgrieves> Glw?
[08:15] <omeg> Chousuke: haha, by that logic, anything can happen...
[08:15] <Chousuke> jgrieves: search for the file in packages.ubuntu.com
[08:15] <Chousuke> omeg: anything CAN happen
[08:15] <omeg> Doesn't mean that there's a reasonable chance that it will.
[08:15] <Chousuke> omeg: with open source, it just takes one hella devoted developer
[08:15] <unimatrix9> use whatever you need to get your job done!
[08:15] <Chousuke> :D
[08:15] <_jason> jordo23, looks fine, go ahead and reload it in synaptic
[08:15] <Chousuke> omeg: but there is. a chance.
[08:15] <vbgunz> unimatrix9: I agree
[08:15] <omeg> No... one open source developer isn't enough.
[08:15] <unimatrix9> and dont complain about the price you have to pay..
[08:16] <aimaz> is HAL the process that mounts cds when i insert them?
[08:16] <jordo23> _jason: I am not using synaptic.....I am going from command line
[08:16] <aimaz> or hald
[08:16] <_jason> jordo23, ok, sudo apt-get update
[08:16] <Chousuke> and with the amount of complaints from pros about gimp, changes are some developers will start developing it for pros
[08:16] <rightcoast> If people had no choice but to actually *pay* for photoshop, there would be 90% less users
[08:16] <rightcoast> lets be honest
[08:16] <rightcoast> heh
[08:16] <omeg> Chousuke: trust me. The GIMP will never outdo Photoshop. Neither in quality, nor in popularity. It's zealous to think so. Even if it does become better, it is never going to replace Photoshop as industry standard.
[08:16] <M_Wettendorff> does anyone knows if i can have php 4 and php 5 installed__
[08:16] <Chousuke> omeg: You can not say that for sure.
[08:17] <Chousuke> omeg: I'm not saying it will ever become so
[08:17] <Chousuke> but it does have a chance.
[08:17] <vbgunz> unimatrix9: it is far easier to dish out 800 dollars rather than seriously invest 800 dollars of your time. This is one of the reasons why Ps is huge... If it cost even more, more people would flock to it... If Gimp has a price tag of 1,600 everyone would flock to the Gimp... Don't know, it is sort of true imho :P
[08:17] <omeg> Chousuke: by that logic, you can say "Finland is going to conquer the world with rocket-propelled army bunnies. You can't say that it won't because you don't know for sure."
[08:17] <sylvie__> commen je f dja pr lavoir en francai le tchat?
[08:17] <Chousuke> omeg: except gimp's chances are better than that happening
[08:17] <Chousuke> it's all about probability.
[08:18] <nox-Hand> Hey
[08:18] <omeg> I know the design industry because I've been in it for years, and I know how it operates. Trust me, as much as you'd like open source software to beat heavyweights like Adobe, it's just not gonna happen.
[08:18] <aimaz> sylvie, #ubuntu-fr
[08:18] <navarone> idk Chousuke The finisha re crafty folk...<s>
[08:18] <nox-Hand> Does anyone know how to use rsync?
[08:18] <aimaz> sylvie__, #ubuntu-fr
[08:18] <omeg> [20:17]  <Chousuke> it's all about probability. <-- don't tell me you think that GIMP triumphing over Adobe has _any_ chance of ever happening.
[08:18] <sylvie__> #ubuntu-fr
[08:18] <Chousuke> omeg: sure it does.
[08:18] <sylvie__> hue commen ?!
[08:18] <jordo23> _jason: seemed to work. thanks a lot!
[08:18] <_jason> jordo23, great, np
[08:18] <omeg> Chousuke: sure, 0.000000000000000000000000001% maybe.
[08:18] <Agrajag> sylvie__: /join #ubuntu-fr
[08:19] <omeg> And if so, then it will be in 10 years.
[08:19] <sylvie__> merci
[08:19] <omeg> If that.
[08:19] <sylvie__> mais commen tu sais kil fo faire ca ?N
[08:19] <Chousuke> omeg: some wise man once said that one-in-a-million chances tend to happen nine times out of ten
[08:19] <Zdra> sylvie__: maybe try to speak french before speaking on a french channel...
[08:19] <unimatrix9> omeg ; you are right , ok!?
[08:19] <omeg> [20:19]  <Chousuke> omeg: some wise man once said that one-in-a-million chances tend to happen nine times out of ten <-- okay :)
[08:19] <BlueDevil> #ubuntu-offtopic for f***'s sake
[08:19] <vbgunz> omeg: spend two weeks here: http://www.gimptalk.com
[08:20] <nox-Hand> know how to use Rsync anyone? Need a tiny bit of help..
[08:20] <BlueDevil> nox-Hand: ask away
[08:20] <Chousuke> I don't like how omeg takes photoshop as THE standard.
[08:20] <calc2> think TCP and DRM it could easily overtake photoshop if they implement real security
[08:20] <omeg> Er.
[08:20] <omeg> It is, Chousuke.
[08:20] <_jason> guys, the offtopic channel is there so you can talk about things such as gimp and photoshop.  This is for support.  /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:20] <vbgunz> haha
[08:20] <nox-Hand> BlueDevil: I have an iso file i downloaded that had a wrong md5sum. And I heard I can use rsync to correct it
[08:20] <aimaz> Chousuke, tbh, I never use windows, but anyone who does more than mess about with graphics uses photoshop
[08:21] <BlueDevil> Chousuke: i don't like it either, but you don't see me continue the debate, do you?
[08:21] <aimaz> the gimp is better than it used to be but does not compare to photoshop
[08:21] <omeg> Yeah, if you want to continue this, feel free to invite me to #ubuntu-offtopic, Chousuke...
[08:21] <omeg> I'm still wondering if there's anybody here who knows more about my strange graphics glitch.
[08:22] <nox-Hand> BlueDevil: Do you know how to use that command?
[08:22] <BlueDevil> nox-Hand: rsync is used to sync files/directories among different computers, if the site you downloaded from supports rsync then you might be able to
[08:22] <unimatrix9> omeg, what is it kicking - resulution-
[08:22] <unimatrix9> ?
[08:22] <calc2> wow i must be lagged about 10min
[08:22] <pinucset> how can i be sure that i downloaded a non corrupted iso?
[08:22] <omeg> There's a strange graphics glitch at the bottom of my screen. It's garbage scanlines-esque... something.
[08:22] <unimatrix9> to high maybe?
[08:22] <BlueDevil> nox-Hand: be warned though, the traffic generated by rsync can be greater than a fresh iso download
[08:22] <illustre> ok moving from thre live cd to full instalation, does the full instalation allow me to partition the HD ?  i want to preserve the win partition snd create new partition currently i am @ aprition disk but dont see option to make new partition
[08:23] <omeg> It's at 800x600 (old Toshiba laptop).
[08:23] <aimaz> pinucset, check the md5 sum if you know it or mount it on the loopback device
[08:23] <omeg> That resolution works just fine in Windows, but it seems to spawn this glitch in Ubuntu.
[08:23] <BlueDevil> pinucset: compare md5 sums
[08:23] <omeg> Strange thing is that the garbage is right above the bottom program bar.
[08:23] <nox-Hand> BlueDevil. Okay, what is the code for it? rsync /home/nox-hand/file.iso ftp.site.com/file or something like it?
[08:23] <unimatrix9> well, the freq could be too high
[08:23] <BlueDevil> illustre: yes, it does
[08:23] <omeg> Hmm
[08:23] <illustre> BlueDevil, how i dont see the option there
[08:24] <BlueDevil> nox-Hand: not that simple
[08:24] <omeg> The glitch doesn't happen at 640x480
[08:24] <omeg> Anyway, since this is a laptop, it can't display anything besides 60 hz.
[08:24] <BlueDevil> illustre: did you do manual partitioning?
[08:24] <nox-Hand> BlueDevil: Oh.
[08:24] <illustre> yes
[08:24] <Absenth> I don't suppose anyone knows how likely a usb -> RS232 adaptor is to work in ubuntu 5.10 breezy?
[08:24] <BlueDevil> nox-Hand: does the site support rsync?
[08:24] <nox-Hand> Do not know
[08:25] <unimatrix9> take an look at your xorg file
[08:25] <nox-Hand> The file is on loads of servers, so can I not just use any of them?
[08:25] <aimaz> Absenth, i used one with redhat and it worked fine
[08:25] <illustre> all i see is configure raid. configue lvm   guided partitiong help on partitioing
[08:25] <Absenth> aimaz, configuring routers and the like?
[08:25] <nox-Hand> BlueDevil: Do not know
[08:25] <nox-Hand> BlueDevil: The file is on loads of servers, so can I not just use any of them?
[08:25] <aimaz> Absenth, only with a mouse...
[08:25] <Absenth> aimaz, nod nod, thanks.
[08:25] <BlueDevil> illustre: what do you see below that?
[08:26] <unimatrix9> hmm, i am off
[08:26] <unimatrix9> bye
[08:26] <SirKillalot> does someone know a good webcrawler to save one page?
[08:26] <Absenth> how could I tell if ubuntu found the device after plugging it into a usb port?
[08:26] <BlueDevil> nox-Hand: imo it's not worth using rsync
[08:26] <illustre> ide1  master hda,  rpimary ntfs 40gb  /media/hda1
[08:26] <unimatrix9> firefox can save the page
[08:26] <SirKillalot> Absenth, lsusb
[08:26] <BlueDevil> nox-Hand: it will generate huge traffic just comparing the files
[08:26] <BlueDevil> nox-Hand: and then transferring deltas
[08:26] <aimaz> Absenth, tail -f the syslog as you plug it in
[08:27] <nox-Hand> BlueDevil: It is not? I was told it was a lot better than having to redownload 2099 MB
[08:27] <unimatrix9> and there is an plugin that can save an intere website for offline browsing
[08:27] <SirKillalot> I want to crawl the whole page with all the links on the same server... any tool?
[08:27] <BlueDevil> illustre: do you see "free space" ?
[08:27] <unimatrix9> httrack, or the firefox plugin
[08:27] <illustre> no
[08:27] <SirKillalot> i would prefer to use an own program for this because of stability and speed reasons
[08:27] <unimatrix9> google for it
[08:27] <aimaz> unimatrix9, wget can do that
[08:28] <BlueDevil> nox-Hand: it works alot better for text files than for binary files
[08:28] <unimatrix9> ok, tell him
[08:28] <unimatrix9> :)
[08:28] <unimatrix9> got to go
[08:28] <unimatrix9> bye
[08:28] <Agrajag> unimatrix9: can you just go on bittorrent with that file and let it fix it for you?
[08:28] <Absenth> alright, it does see it :)
[08:28] <Agrajag> er
[08:28] <BlueDevil> nox-Hand: i tried once to sync a couple of databases with it, baad choice
[08:28] <Absenth> aimaz, SirKillalot danke.
[08:28] <SirKillalot> aimaz, wget can track links on a page and save them and so on?
[08:28] <Agrajag> nox-hand: can you just go on bittorrent with that file and let it fix it for you?
[08:28] <illustre> i need to resize hda1 to create free space to make new partitions?
[08:28] <LoPMX> how do i run gtk2 engine?
[08:28] <aimaz> SirKillalot, yeah, i think it's -r or -R check the manpage
[08:29] <nox-Hand> Agrajag: How? I did not get the file with bittorrent
[08:29] <BlueDevil> illustre: if hda1 occupies the whole disk, yes
[08:29] <Agrajag> nox-Hand: is it available on bittorrent?
[08:29] <Agrajag> What is the file?
[08:29] <illustre> can i do it in here ?
[08:29] <BlueDevil> illustre: not sure, never done it; perhaps someone else in the channel can help you
[08:29] <nox-Hand> Agrajag: Yes, but on bittorrent it downloads slower than regular?
[08:30] <Agrajag> nox-Hand: it'll still be faster than re-downloading the whole thing, won't it?
[08:30] <BlueDevil> illustre: fwiw, i've heard that it can be done in the installer, might be wrong though
[08:30] <illustre> i am surprise the instalation does not provide that, i think suse did,  will gparted in the livce cd let me do that
[08:30] <Knowerrors> Hey all, how do I disable the root account if I created one?
[08:30] <sammy76> i'm having a problem with it not recognizing my cd-rom drive during install, anyone able to help
[08:30] <navarone> illustre...you can install gparted as well...but you can only resize partitions that are not mounted...ie not your boot partition for ubuntu
[08:30] <jgrieves> what is the ocmmand to loo kto see what extensions are running on X?
[08:30] <BlueDevil> illustre: yes, you can do it with gtparted on a live cd
[08:30] <nox-Hand> Agrajag: How do I get it to fix it in bittorrent?
[08:31] <nox-Hand> Agrajag: I have opened Bittorrent
[08:31] <Agrajag> nox-Hand: just get on the torrent, tell it to save to that file you downloaded, and let it run
[08:31] <illustre> thats the only way correct?  here in the regular instalation cd i can't ?
[08:31] <diego> buenasss
[08:31] <diego> como va?
[08:31] <nox-Hand> Okay
[08:31] <nox-Hand> BRB then
[08:31] <diego> hablan espaol?
[08:31] <Agrajag> !es
[08:31] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:32] <BlueDevil> illustre: read what I said earlier
[08:32] <navarone> illustre...you can also go thru aprtitioning part of install...resdize partition...write changes to disk and then abort rest of install by backing out in menu
[08:32] <neighborlee> why was the RMB on a menu item removed does anyone know ?
[08:32] <BlueDevil> illustre: talk to navarone
[08:32] <illustre> navarone, thaks i am just reaqding that right now
[08:33] <illustre> navarone, will it screw the winxp instalation ?
[08:33] <jgrieves> what is the ocmmand to loo kto see what extensions are running on X?
[08:33] <jgrieves> wow
[08:33] <jgrieves> what is the command to see what extensions X is running?
[08:33] <navarone> illlustre...you may have to scroll downa bit...maybe pagedown...in menu to see abort install option when finished changing partitions
[08:33] <Kentaur> ok I was told someone here might know about rsync here. Could anyone tell me what to type to sync to PCs in a lan?
[08:34] <navarone> illustre...it will not as long as you pick the correct partitions to modify and are careful...back up data anyway tho...cos $%& happens
[08:34] <nox-Hand> Agrajag: This is what I get when I try to set ot to get Bittorrent to download the file to same folder as the org bad file is: /home/nox-Hand/Desktop/SUSE-10.0-EvalDVD-i386-GM.iso.torrent >Bad file info<<
[08:34] <illustre> navarone, strange its telling me the minimum size i can use is 92%
[08:34] <jgrieves> what is the command to see what extensions X is running?
[08:35] <illustre> navarone, that means i would only have *% of the 40gb for my new partitoins?  not worth it
[08:35] <navarone> illustre...I don't know your set-up...how big a partition you looking to make?
[08:35] <M_Wettendorff> how do i uninstall Mysql / PHP and Apache??
[08:35] <jordo23> What's the best IRC client to use under Gnome?  I am a KDE user.
[08:35] <chrisx1> How Do i find if my cam is installed?
[08:35] <BlueDevil> illustre: how full is the xp partition?
[08:35] <illustre> well he hd is 40gb  i would like to steal 20gb
[08:35] <BlueDevil> jgrieves: hold on, trying to find that
[08:35] <jgrieves> BlueDevil thanks me 2 :)
[08:35] <navarone> illustre...defrag win xp before as well...so as not to have stray data on mixed partitions
[08:35] <illustre> how full i dont know unless i log into win again
[08:36] <chrisx1> How Do i find if my cam is installed?
[08:37] <illustre> wjen it days new partition size u can use is for the already existing partition correct?
[08:37] <navarone> illustre...probably easier to install gparted w/ synaptic and use it...it is gui and pretty straight forward. You can google for safe usage
[08:37] <chrisx1> How Do i find if my cam is installed?
[08:37] <jgrieves> xdpyinfo i think
[08:37] <jordo23> Does anyone know if the current version of Ubuntu corresponds to Stable, testing, or unstable version of Debian?
[08:38] <illustre> i might do that thxs
[08:38] <navarone> illustre> I beleive you can specify how big the win xp partition will be when resized...then the freesapce is what you can use for other installs
[08:38] <jgrieves> BlueDevil got it
[08:38] <jgrieves> xdpyinfo
[08:38] <M_Wettendorff> how do i uninstall Mysql / PHP and Apache??
[08:38] <jgrieves> sorry and thanks
[08:38] <navarone> illustre, so if you hjave 40gigger...make size in field 20gb and it will resize to that amount
[08:38] <chrisx1> How Do i find if my cam is installed?
[08:38] <illustre> let me log to win to make sure how much is in use thisi s my wifes laptop
[08:39] <illustre> navarone, but it was telling that the minimum sive could be 96%
[08:40] <sammy76> can you see what i'm typing
[08:40] <Agrajag> no
[08:41] <ompaul> sammy76, no I can't :-)
[08:41] <sammy76> didn't think so
[08:41] <navarone> illustre, I dont know why it would say that...
[08:41] <chrisx1> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0c45:602a Microdia Meade ETX-105EC Camera <- How Do i install it?
[08:41] <d03boy> when using the file browser to run a jar file it seems to always think that my current working directory is my home directory (which its not..) how do I deal with this?
[08:41] <Tedd> Can anybody help me with getting my speakers working?
[08:41] <Tedd> They were working before, last night. Now they aren't working at all.
[08:41] <alvaro> hola chatines
[08:42] <illustre> i just checked in windows i t has 22.7 gb of free space out of 37.2  linux sees 40gb total
[08:42] <illustre> i might try the live cd and use gparted and then try full instalation
[08:43] <versaily> i need help!
[08:43] <versaily> i have forgoten what the root pass is
[08:43] <versaily> is there a way to change/ c what it is?
[08:43] <Agrajag> versaily: there isn't one
[08:43] <KTheRoot> People with gmail account is capable of inviting others right? Well, since its christmas and all... would anyone like to be nice?
[08:43] <versaily> :(
[08:43] <Agrajag> !tell versaily about rootsudo
[08:44] <chrisx1> KTheRoot, i have some ill invite
[08:44] <Agrajag> versaily: that is to say, there is no root password
[08:44] <chrisx1> pm me ur email
[08:44] <versaily> ?
[08:44] <versaily> what u mean?
[08:44] <Agrajag> versaily: the bot messaged you
[08:44] <Xenguy> !u
[08:44] <ubotu> The letter 'U' is not a pronoun, unless you're Dutch.  U mag wel 'je' zeggen, hoor.
[08:44] <Kentaur> KTheRoot: Ok PM me your email.
[08:44] <Agrajag> versaily: go to the link that the bot sent you
[08:44] <versaily> ok
[08:45] <Agrajag> versaily: ubuntu does not use a root password, it uses sudo to give you root priveleges using the same password you used to log in.
[08:45] <versaily> so when i type su
[08:45] <Agrajag> don't type su.
[08:45] <versaily> what sould i put in?
[08:45] <versaily> only sudo?
[08:45] <Agrajag> if you want a root shell, run sudo -i
[08:45] <Agrajag> if you just want to run one command as root, run sudo <command>
[08:45] <sammy76> anyone know anything about mounting cd-rw drives during install
[08:45] <BlueDevil> xdpyinfo | grep -A 100 'number of extensions' | grep -B 100 'default screen'
[08:46] <ompaul> versaily, read the page ubotu sent you
[08:46] <koyoda> !repositories
[08:46] <ubotu> [repositories]  How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list
[08:47] <koyoda> !sources
[08:47] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:47] <ubun-newbie> what is the name of that program bmpx
[08:47] <illustre> can someone confirm this
[08:47] <ubun-newbie> i do sudo apt-get install bmpx  no packet found
[08:47] <jackmacokc> i'm having a problem with apache - anyone know why i can't connect to localhost? is there something i'm missing?
[08:48] <Syirrus> do sudo apt-cache search bmpx  and see if it comes us
[08:48] <Syirrus> us = up
[08:48] <Exxcaliber> ubun-newbie, if you wanna know the name of a proggy, just search for it like this " sudo apt-cache search bmp"
[08:48] <illustre> when the installer resize tool says the min size of partion can be xx is refering of old partition not new partition that is created from the resize feature
[08:48] <Knowerrors> How I disable/remove the root password if its been created?
[08:49] <ubun-newbie> i want to download a program where they have radio station
[08:49] <ubun-newbie> to listen radio station
[08:49] <illustre> ubun-newbie, amarok
[08:50] <Exxcaliber> ubun-newbie, oh okay.. you need a program which supports mp3 streaming.. you can find the radio stations at www.shoutcast.com
[08:50] <BlueDevil> Knowerrors: passwd -l root
[08:50] <ubun-newbie> i am install amarok what is amarok
[08:50] <Knowerrors> BlueDevil: thx
[08:50] <BlueDevil> Knowerrors: yw
[08:50] <jackmacokc> ubun-newbie: you need streamtuner
[08:51] <jackmacokc> ubun-newbie: and listen with beep-media-player
[08:51] <grshpr> I get this: E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[08:51] <grshpr> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[08:51] <BlueDevil> grshpr: are you?
[08:51] <Exxcaliber> grayman, are you root?
[08:51] <Exxcaliber> :P
[08:51] <grshpr> When I try to install centericq.
[08:52] <grshpr> sudo
[08:52] <grshpr> Same as root right?
[08:52] <Exxcaliber> yep
[08:52] <Agrajag> grshpr: do you have anotherinstance of an apt program running?
[08:52] <BlueDevil> grshpr: yes
[08:52] <Agrajag> synaptic, or aptitude...
[08:52] <grshpr> Agrajag: No.
[08:52] <ubun-newbie> i installed amarok
[08:52] <ubun-newbie> does it have radio station
[08:52] <BlueDevil> grshpr: lsof|grep /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[08:52] <jackmacokc> ubun-newbie: streamtuner
[08:52] <grshpr> BlueDevil: Ok. :)
[08:53] <agtnz> ubun-newbie: click on playlists on the left hand side
[08:53] <ubun-newbie> what
[08:53] <BlueDevil> grshpr: with sudo
[08:53] <ubun-newbie> there is no radio station on playlist
[08:54] <grshpr> BlueDevil: Same error.
[08:54] <ubun-newbie> yes i see now
[08:54] <M_Wettendorff> anyone here that can help with the instalation of apache / PHP / mySQL???
[08:54] <ubun-newbie> i clicked up i should click on the left playlist
[08:54] <jackmacokc> M_Wettendorff, whats the issue
[08:54] <BlueDevil> grshpr: what same error? it should print the process that has that file open! no error!
[08:54] <ubun-newbie> it shows playlist now i double click nothing happens
[08:55] <ubun-newbie> i click radio streams
[08:55] <M_Wettendorff>  i want to have the MySQl to run when i boot the server.
[08:55] <grshpr> BlueDevil: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[08:55] <agtnz> ubun-newbie: rightclick on radio streams if you want to add a new one
[08:55] <BlueDevil> grshpr: did you run the command I told you to?!
[08:56] <grshpr> BlueDevil: Yes, with sudo..
[08:56] <M_Wettendorff> and i cant chance the password for my root user on the MySQL
[08:56] <ubun-newbie> i think i dont have audio voice
[08:56] <BlueDevil> grshpr: what was the output?
[08:56] <ubun-newbie> how do i install my audio
[08:56] <grshpr> BlueDevil: No output from that, just got to the command line again.
[08:56] <jackmacokc> ubun-newbie, have you consulted the wiki?
[08:57] <ubun-newbie> what is that
[08:57] <agtnz> !sound
[08:57] <ubotu> rumour has it, sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[08:58] <BlueDevil> grshpr: ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[08:58] <ubun-newbie> aplay -l
[08:58] <ubun-newbie> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[08:58] <ubun-newbie> card 0: SI7012 [SiS SI7012] , device 0: Intel ICH [SiS SI7012] 
[08:58] <ubun-newbie>   Subdevices: 0/1
[08:58] <ubun-newbie>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[08:58] <grshpr> BlueDevil: Ok. :)
[08:58] <ubun-newbie> do i have sound yer or no
[08:58] <Jowi> just installed streamtuner just to see what it was and it is really good. i'm impressed
[08:58] <ubun-newbie> how u installed a streamtuner
[08:59] <Jowi> sudo apt-get install streamtuner
[08:59] <grshpr> BlueDevil: -rw-r-----  1 root root 0 2005-12-08 13:47 /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[08:59] <Jowi> started it, clicked on "shoutcast" and it automatically got 100 or so radiostations. doubleclicked on one and it started xmms and played the stream.
[08:59] <grayman> Exxcaliber, huh?
[09:00] <grayman> Exxcaliber, what are you talking about?
[09:00] <Agrajag> zenwhen:
[09:00] <Exxcaliber> grayman, sry, i meant to talk to grph, my autocompletion trigged me :)
[09:00] <ciga> hi
[09:00] <Agrajag> hy
[09:00] <ubun-newbie> ok i installed streamtunde
[09:00] <grayman> Exxcaliber, ah
[09:00] <BlueDevil> grshpr: and no program has that file open? hmm that's weird :-/
[09:01] <Agrajag> sound slike something died without cleaning up after itself
[09:01] <grshpr> BlueDevil: Not what I can think of. I have gAIM, XMMS and Mozilla running except the terminal.
[09:02] <ciga> I try to compile 4.0.1-3 for woody, but it stops with an error: 'error: parse error before "TARGET32_MACHINE"'. Anyone knows what went wrong?
[09:02] <ubun-newbie>  streamtuner
[09:02] <ubun-newbie> Message: device: default
[09:02] <ubun-newbie> ** WARNING **: ctrl_write_packet(): Failed to send data: Brutet rr
[09:02] <ubun-newbie> Message: device: default
[09:02] <ubun-newbie> ** WARNING **: ctrl_write_packet(): Failed to send data: Brutet rr
[09:03] <jhaa> ok
[09:03] <ubun-newbie> what is wrong with my streamtuner
[09:03] <d03boy> zip is compatible with windowsxp right?
[09:03] <grshpr> BlueDevil: I do have a update-tray (red thing with arrows) that say taht I have some downloads I need. Could that interrupt?
[09:03] <jackmacokc> i dont know why you're having all these problems...all these progs worked right away for me
[09:03] <BlueDevil> grshpr: sudo fuser -v /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[09:04] <ubun-newbie> what is wrong with my streamtuner
[09:04] <ubun-newbie>  when i click on radio station i get could not make a connection
[09:04] <Jowi> ubun-newbie: try one of the shoutcast ones
[09:05] <ubun-newbie>  streamtuner
[09:05] <ubun-newbie> Message: device: default
[09:05] <ubun-newbie> ** WARNING **: ctrl_write_packet(): Failed to send data: Brutet rr
[09:05] <ubun-newbie> i click on shoutcast to listen
[09:05] <ubun-newbie> i get could not connect
[09:05] <ubun-newbie> and it shows this error
[09:05] <Jowi> no idea
[09:06] <orkin> ok guys, is there any particular reason ubuntu is going so degumifyingly slow on my Dell Dimension 2350 pentium 4?
[09:06] <orkin> is it because I installed it on a 30gig hard drive?
[09:06] <juan> I need spanish channel. Please!!!!!
[09:06] <stjepan> hi
[09:06] <jackmacokc> orkin, that shouldnt hurt it
[09:06] <feugan3333> Hi all. After installing nvidia drivers, xmms has a segmentation fault when I try to start it. Is this a know issue?
[09:06] <orkin> an ooold 30gig hard drive
[09:06] <smo> !es
[09:06] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:06] <stjepan> is it ok (no problem) with using only root partition and swap partition?
[09:07] <juan> ok muchas gracias
[09:07] <navarone> juan #ubuntu-es
[09:07] <hedonick> orkin: how can a 30 gig drive be ooooold??? 4 gigs starts getting close to oooold ;-)
[09:07] <orkin> ok
[09:07] <orkin> so what do you think the source of this problem is?
[09:07] <DGauge> I installed ubuntu on my desktop as the third OS Win98SE, RHL8, and Ub...but Ubuntu was supposed to install in the free space but it oddly messed up Win98SE and RHL8 :(
[09:08] <FrdPrefct> cfs-work: Try /etc/init.d/powernowd stop
[09:08] <FrdPrefct> orkin even
[09:08] <FrdPrefct> see if that helps any
[09:08] <slushpupie> navarone: nope
[09:08] <navarone> ouch
[09:08] <Nigelenki> any recommendations on rigging Rhythmbox up to an Icecast?
[09:08] <FrdPrefct> might also wanna try apm instead of acpi
[09:08] <chemaFPA> Xdm dont work, why?
[09:09] <slushpupie> navarone: Maxtor DiamondMax 7000 215Mb SCSI-2 3600rpm
[09:09] <slushpupie> navarone: works great, even after all these years
[09:09] <navarone> slushpupie, is that your main partition drive? Or only drive? what processor?
[09:09] <ompaul> DGauge, it only installs where you tell it to, I have never had it overwrite anything I gave it permission to write to
[09:10] <ompaul> DGauge, it only installs where you tell it to, I have never had it overwrite anything I DID NOT give it permission to write to :-) (typo first time)
[09:10] <orkin> apm? acpi?
[09:10] <slushpupie> navarone: the only drive in the system.  old 484 (dont recall which)
[09:10] <navarone> holy smoke
[09:10] <cbear> hey all, i've got a problem with vlc on my system
[09:10] <slushpupie> navarone: LFS, its more of a toy than anything.  But it routes packets :-)
[09:11] <navarone> slushpupie, you running x?
[09:11] <chemaFPA> Some gdm alternative more little than kdm?
[09:11] <slushpupie> navarone: ha!
[09:11] <navarone> lol
[09:11] <d03boy> does anyone else realize that nautilus sucks?
[09:11] <Jowi> d03boy: yep. rox-filer rocks
[09:11] <slushpupie> navarone: I felt good about the fact I got ipsec to run on the damn thing
[09:11] <challah> hey all... im having a problem with my 2nd monitor... installing the nvidia drivers... ive read the wiki... i dunno why its not working...
[09:11] <navarone> I wonder if android was a bot...<s>
[09:11] <challah> its a geforce fx 5200 agp
[09:11] <challah> thanks in advance
[09:12] <ompaul> d03boy, it does the job it was asked to do, I am happy with it
[09:12] <Mabus06> How do I make accents in linux?
[09:12] <DGauge> ompaul: I know I can't figure out what happened....it wrote to the free space but when I try to boot windows it won't load the norton antivirus saying it can't find the database and RHL reports that it can't find the keyboard, mouse, and then says filesystem is messed up...starts to repair it and locks up...but ubuntu works great :)
[09:12] <DGauge> just doesn't seem to support my modem :(
[09:12] <navarone> Mabus06, Like zees mon frere
[09:12] <Mabus06> ALT+130 produces an accented e on windows, what are the linux equivalents?
[09:12] <ubun-newbie> how do i install sound in ubuntu
[09:12] <ubun-newbie> the sound drivers
[09:12] <ompaul> DGauge, is it a win modem>
[09:12] <cbear> vlc froze when i was messing with the preferences and i couldn't fore quit out of it, so i logged out
[09:12] <crimsun> ubun-newbie: they should work automatically.
[09:12] <cbear> *force
[09:12] <Mabus06> navarone, you didn't accent frere. How do you? :D
[09:13] <ubun-newbie> how do i test if i have sound
[09:13] <DGauge> ompaul: yet but it works with linux kernel 2.4 or later
[09:13] <ompaul> ubun-newbie, tell the channel what card you have
[09:13] <cbear> but now when i start vlc again it just appears for a split second and disappears
[09:13] <navarone> Try applications/character map
[09:13] <ubun-newbie>  aplay -l
[09:13] <ubun-newbie> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[09:13] <ubun-newbie> card 0: SI7012 [SiS SI7012] , device 0: Intel ICH [SiS SI7012] 
[09:13] <ubun-newbie>   Subdevices: 1/1
[09:13] <ubun-newbie>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[09:13] <navarone> App/Access/Character Map
[09:13] <illustre> in the live cd i tried gparted and after hitting apply  the new partition dissapeardand the other went back to its originalo size  it did not write, any idea why it would not write,  can iresize the ntfs with gparted
[09:14] <ompaul> DGauge, two questions (A) what version of Ubuntu are you using (B) what model of card is it?
[09:14] <levander> someone can tell me how the scripts in /etc/cron.daily get run?
[09:14] <MagicFab> hello - wondering how long will it take Firefox 1.5 to reach the repos ?
[09:15] <navarone> illustre> you haev to amke sure partition you are trying to resize is not mounted. Is you windows partition auto mounted in fstab?
[09:15] <MagicFab> I know I can install it manually, just rather use synaptic or apt-get
[09:15] <navarone> illustre, if it is maybe that's why no effects on drive
[09:15] <MagicFab> using breezy
[09:15] <illustre> i dont think it is in the live cd
[09:15] <crimsun> ubun-newbie: paste the output from amixer onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:15] <Mabus06> navarone, I don't see any french accents? I browsed all the "scripts"
[09:15] <navarone> illustre, just unmmount drive and try again
[09:16] <ubun-newbie> i donno how to use amixer
[09:16] <illustre> mount does not show it mounted
[09:16] <stappen> hello there
[09:16] <DGauge> ompaul: how do I find the answers to those questions?
[09:17] <crimsun> ubun-newbie: open a Terminal and type: amixer
[09:17] <stappen> can i make synaptic secure with an passwd?
[09:17] <crimsun> ubun-newbie: then paste all that output onto the Web site I told you
[09:17] <stappen> and  how do i do this?
[09:17] <chrisx1> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0c45:602a Microdia Meade ETX-105EC Camera <- How Do i install it?
[09:17] <illustre> mount is not mouted according to mtab !!!
[09:17] <stappen> i am setting it up for an school, so needs to be protected
[09:17] <navarone> Mabus06, I don't ahve any either...probably have to download french characters/fonts and install
[09:17] <stappen> any tips?
[09:18] <AndyR> lo all
[09:18] <navarone> illustre
[09:18] <BlueDevil> illustre: paste the mount output to pastebin
[09:18] <challah> brb i got clients here... yay!!!
[09:18] <ubun-newbie> http://pastebin.com/454469
[09:18] <navarone> illustre, try running gparted from terminal with sudo...
[09:18] <navarone> you may need root to make disk changes
[09:18] <DGauge> ubuntu doesn't have any asm included  or gcc command line tools :o
[09:19] <ompaul> DGauge, the model you have to look at it and write down various large chip numbers till you find it and the version run this command >>cat /etc/lsb-release<<
[09:19] <ubun-newbie> is something wrong with my sound
[09:19] <ubun-newbie> http://pastebin.com/454469
[09:19] <crimsun> DGauge: not by default, no. Install build-essential.
[09:19] <_Norris_> diferent either REGPARM and No REGPARM
[09:19] <_Norris_> ?
[09:19] <ompaul> DGauge, not considered tools for your granny to use, one line command to install >>sudo apt-get install build-essential<<
[09:20] <occy> :(
[09:20] <chrisx1> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0c45:602a Microdia Meade ETX-105EC Camera <- How Do i install it?
[09:20] <occy> man, this ticks me off.  Firefox dies all the time, and so does beep-media-player
[09:20] <ubun-newbie> who can help me to fix my sound
[09:20] <crimsun> b-m-p is deprecated
[09:20] <crimsun> use bmpx instead
[09:20] <occy> and every once in a while nautilus andd gnome will just hork
[09:20] <occy> crimsun, grrr
[09:20] <BlueDevil> ubun-newbie: what's wrong with it?
[09:20] <occy> crimsun, I nukd all my prefs too
[09:20] <occy> crimsun, so that can't be it
[09:21] <occy> crimsun, hey btw. :)
[09:21] <DGauge> ompaul I've been looking into OS development and need nasm and gcc/g++ but I hope bochs works on it :o
[09:21] <Fujoor> does ubuntu have support for all wlan cards?
[09:21] <ubun-newbie> when i do streamtuner and i want to listen on shout cast i get all time could nto connect
[09:21] <crimsun> occy: hi
[09:21] <ubun-newbie> streamtuner
[09:21] <ubun-newbie> Message: device: default
[09:21] <ubun-newbie> ** WARNING **: ctrl_write_packet(): Failed to send data: Brutet rr
[09:21] <crimsun> Fujoor: all? no. Many? yes.
[09:21] <occy> crimsun, it really sucks when I'm trying to get work done and stuff just keeps crashing on me for no reason. :(
[09:21] <DGauge> I have Ubuntu 5.04 Hoary Hedgehog Release
[09:21] <cbear> has anyone had similar problems with VLC?
[09:21] <Fujoor> crimsun: is there a list with which it supports?
[09:21] <ompaul> DGauge,  >>sudo apt-get install build-essential nasm<< then
[09:22] <occy> crimsun, I'm getting close to just nuking it and trying to use another distro till Dapper comes out.
[09:22] <crimsun> Fujoor: look on the wiki.
[09:22] <binarydigit> ubun-newbie: try googling the error message
[09:22] <Fujoor> crimsun: i heard the ones that dont support it must be installed via something called ndiswrapper
[09:22] <illustre> tried sudo no luck http://pastebin.com/454471
[09:22] <str8edge> is anyone here having problems with beagle on dapper?
[09:22] <ompaul> DGauge,  you are presenting these things as problems, not opportunities
[09:22] <ubun-newbie> wtf
[09:22] <crimsun> occy: you could also be insane and run Dapper like those of us who are insane.
[09:22] <occy> crimsun, hehe
[09:22] <occy> crimsun, true, it'd probably be no less stable than my setup now.
[09:22] <occy> *sigh*
[09:22] <crimsun> ubun-newbie: is this the only card listed in /proc/asound/cards ?
[09:23] <ubun-newbie> donno
[09:23] <ubun-newbie> i am newbie
[09:23] <occy> crimsun, good to always see you :)
[09:23] <crimsun> occy: ditto
[09:23] <occy> well... "see" you
[09:23] <occy> :)
[09:23] <crimsun> ubun-newbie: cat /proc/asound/cards
[09:23] <ubun-newbie> i did google search google could not help me
[09:23] <ubun-newbie> /proc/asound/cards
[09:23] <ubun-newbie> 0 [SI7012         ] : ICH - SiS SI7012
[09:23] <ubun-newbie>                      SiS SI7012 with ALC200,200P at 0xd800, irq 18
[09:23] <ubun-newbie> 1 [UART           ] : MPU-401 UART - MPU-401 UART
[09:23] <ubun-newbie>                      MPU-401 UART at 0x330, irq 10
[09:24] <crimsun> ubun-newbie: are you using the analog speaker-out?
[09:24] <crimsun> ubun-newbie: i.e., not the optical output
[09:24] <orkin> ok, how do I find the modem license key on the website, the driver told me to go to the website to get the key with my modem registration
[09:24] <ubun-newbie> no idea it works fine on windows
[09:24] <ubun-newbie> but in windows i download sound drivers
[09:24] <ubun-newbie> and i install soundrivers
[09:24] <crimsun> ubun-newbie: but this isn't Windows, and you need to physically inspect the connection on the computer.
[09:24] <orkin> and it sped my system up a little bit but it isn't as fast as it was with windows
[09:25] <proxosi> hwo do i install flash for firefox if im amd64
[09:25] <ompaul> ubun-newbie, on a seperate note, when you have a large amount of data we ask that you paste it in http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl  as there are over 700 people here :-)
[09:25] <ubun-newbie> ok what to do now
[09:25] <Amaranth> proxosi: You don't, say thanks to macromedia.
[09:25] <crimsun> ubun-newbie: stand up and actually look at the speaker connection on your computer
[09:25] <MagicFab> hello - wondering if I absolutely have to install backports repos / dapper or will Firefox 1.5 make it to the default repos in the next 5 months ?
[09:25] <psusi> flash sucks anyhow
[09:25] <xiaogil> Que faire pour rsoudre le problme suivant aprs un make : /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10-686/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 11: gcc-3.4: command not found ?
[09:25] <Jxpx> how can i conect to yahoo msn?
[09:25] <ompaul> !fr
[09:25] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[09:25] <crimsun> MagicFab: it'll be backported when Ian finishes
[09:25] <ubun-newbie> yes it good
[09:26] <ubun-newbie> i did not changed it i have sound on windows
[09:26] <xiaogil> What to do to solve the following problem after a make : /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10-686/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 11: gcc-3.4: command not found ?
[09:26] <ompaul> xiaogil, however you can do this >>sudo apt-get install build-essential<<
[09:26] <chrisx1> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0c45:602a Microdia Meade ETX-105EC Camera <- How Do i install it?
[09:26] <ubun-newbie>  gcc-3.4 u need gcc maybe
[09:26] <chrom> anyone tell me how to install stopsign?
[09:26] <skiy> hi ubuntuers
[09:26] <orkin> where do I find the modem installation key on the linuxant website
[09:26] <xiaogil> ompaul: it's done already
[09:27] <MagicFab> crimsun: I am not sure I understand backports - hints to docs ?
[09:27] <str8edge> any here using beagle?
[09:27] <ubun-newbie> so why i have no sound
[09:27] <str8edge> !backports
[09:27] <illustre> how can i upgrade gparted to the latest version synaptic is showing 0.0.8 i would like 0.0.9
[09:27] <ubotu> I heard backports is Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[09:27] <MagicFab> tks
[09:27] <DGauge> under RHL I can see what /dev/hd has what type of filesystem on it.....does ubuntu have a program that tells that? for example, /dev/hda2    ext3     /      %of space used  etc
[09:28] <ericz> df -h?
[09:28] <ArkGullwing> hmm
[09:28] <occy> :(
[09:28] <occy> another FF crash
[09:28] <ompaul> xiaogil, however you can install this also gcc-3.4
[09:28] <MagicFab> cool - first paragraph of backports wiki is even specific to Firefox!
[09:28] <skiy> chrom: what have you tried?
[09:28] <crimsun> occy: haven't had any here, but I don't use any extensions
[09:28] <ompaul> xiaogil, did not read enough the first time :-/
[09:29] <zandaa> darnit <_<
[09:29] <zandaa> I got problems with my ubuntu setup
[09:29] <chrisx1> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0c45:602a Microdia Meade ETX-105EC Camera <- How Do i install it?
[09:29] <ArkGullwing> hi hi, anyone here able to chat with a windows user about possible 'upgrade' to linux? Dont wanna bother the main host of the chat here, who prolly all know what they are doing more than myself, so PM me please?
[09:29] <chrom> skiy well i just tryed to install it by clicking and opening it. not working
[09:29] <crimsun> ubun-newbie: you haven't answered my question. How are the speakers physically connected to your computer?
[09:29] <rambo3> tryed sudo fdisk -l ?
[09:29] <stjepan> is it ok (no problem) with using only root partition and swap partition?
[09:29] <occy> crimsun, hmmm
[09:29] <skiy> chrom: from what website?
[09:29] <occy> crimsun, I wonder... maybe it's the stupid web developer plugin
[09:29] <ubun-newbie> ** WARNING **: ctrl_write_packet(): Failed to send data: Felaktig filidentifierare
[09:29] <ubun-newbie> ** WARNING **: ctrl_write_packet(): Failed to send data: Felaktig filidentifiera
[09:29] <chrom> from stopsign itself
[09:29] <zandaa> what is the default password for root on a fresh ubuntu install?
[09:29] <occy> ubun-newbie, pastebin.ca please
[09:30] <occy> ubun-newbie, oh,nm
[09:30] <ubun-newbie> i just checked now sound the master sound was closed i open it
[09:30] <occy> only 2 lines
[09:30] <navarone> ArkGullwing, try live cd and decide from there would be my advice
[09:30] <MagicFab> str8edge: thanks
[09:30] <ubun-newbie> but still get problems
[09:30] <skiy> zandaa: there isn't one :)
[09:30] <ompaul> xiaogil, you may find this a useful command >> apt-cache search gcc-3.4 << and this one >>apt-cache policy gcc-3.4<< they will help you with things like that
[09:30] <DGauge> I have two HDDs and df -h only shows one HDD :/
[09:30] <skiy> zandaa: you need to issue "sudo passwd" to set it
[09:30] <ArkGullwing> live cd? is that like... a demo of sorts or something?
[09:30] <zandaa> ArkGullwing, it's a CD from which you load Ubuntu in memory
[09:30] <ubun-newbie> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5520
[09:30] <skiy> ArkGullwing: allows you to use ubuntu without installing, so yes
[09:31] <ubun-newbie> when i click on shout cast each time i see this error on my terminla
[09:31] <ArkGullwing> ahh, spiffy =D ok thanks ^_^ i'll prolly be back in the not too distant =)
[09:31] <navarone> ArkGullwing, I live cd is one you boot up with and os runs from ram...no install...is slower but good way to see if most components will be recognized
[09:31] <chrom> skiy : i just dled it from stopsign. com got it dled. but wont install
[09:31] <ArkGullwing> cool cool =) going to try it now ^_^ *poof*
[09:32] <rambo3> try different kernels too
[09:32] <xiaogil> ompaul: the result is better, thanks, but now i have the following error msg : make[2] : *** [/home/gilles/Desktop/usbvision/src/usbvision.o]  error 1
[09:32] <navarone> interesting name
[09:32] <ompaul> DGauge, is it (A) what is showing paste.ubuntulinux.nl for the paste (B) showing up when you type fdisk -l [again paste] 
[09:32] <navarone> Who puts Ark and a seabird appendage together for nick...<s>
[09:33] <ompaul> xiaogil, can't take you any further with that I am afraid, but ask again in a little while
[09:33] <ardchoille> How do I disable Bluetooth services? I don't have any Bluetooth devices and keeping the service running seems like a waste.
[09:33] <Tedd> Can anybody help me/
[09:33] <Tedd> I need help getting my speakers back.
[09:33] <ompaul> xiaogil, given no one else answered you eariler
[09:33] <skiy> chrom: anti virus?
[09:33] <crimsun> ubun-newbie: please, please, please check the actual physical connection of the speakers to the computer
[09:33] <Tedd> They were working when I was using Ubuntu before, but now they don't work at all.
[09:33] <chrom> yea its a anti virus scan program
[09:33] <skiy> Tedd: you're sound has stopped working?
[09:33] <Tedd> skiy: Yessum.
[09:33] <Tedd> Any ideas?
[09:33] <navarone> ardchoille, I beleive bluetooth in linux is what allows serial devices to work...controls the bus I think
[09:34] <crimsun> ubun-newbie: without knowing whether you're using optical out, I can't really help you effectively
[09:34] <xiaogil> ompaul: thanks, actually the next error is : /home/gilles/Desktop/usbvision/src/usbvision.c:3134: error: storage size of 'tun_addr' isn't known
[09:34] <skiy> Tedd: What does lspci say about sound?
[09:34] <ubun-newbie> i use normal pc sound output
[09:34] <ubun-newbie> the cables are fine
[09:34] <Tedd> lspci? I'm sorry. I have no idea what you mean.
[09:34] <skiy> Paste the line about the Mulitmedia Audio Controller
[09:34] <ardchoille> navarone: hmm.. I didn't have Bluetooth services running in my previous distro.
[09:34] <crimsun> ubun-newbie: what types of cables?
[09:34] <rambo3> Tedd new kernel?
[09:34] <ubun-newbie> black normal pc cables
[09:34] <skiy> Tedd: Type "sudo lspci"
[09:34] <zandaa> darnit...
[09:34] <crimsun> ubun-newbie: "normal pc sound output" is NOT descriptive enough.
[09:34] <ardchoille> navarone: ok, if that is the case, I'll leave it running
[09:35] <zandaa> can't access the root account on my fresh setup
[09:35] <ubun-newbie> there is no root u use sudo
[09:35] <rambo3> !tell zandaa about sudo
[09:35] <skiy> Tedd: and look for a line that looks like "0000:00:05.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce MultiMedia audio [Via VT82C686B]  (rev a2)"
[09:35] <zandaa> ok...
[09:35] <navarone> ardchoille, I was wondering about bluetooth myself..I thought I'm not on wireless or anything. But apparently from what I read it maybe how serial devices are used or something like that...I'm not a techy
[09:36] <zandaa> and it doesn't support my LAN
[09:36] <Tedd> skiy, I have Multimidia Audio Controller, but it's not Nvidia.
[09:36] <zandaa> at least I can't connect through cable
[09:36] <ardchoille> navarone: ok, I'm not a techie either, so I'll leave it alone for now. Thanks
[09:36] <navarone> ardchoille, np
[09:36] <Tedd> skiy: It's Intel Corporation.
[09:36] <skiy> chrom: what is it?
[09:36] <chrom> skiy: yes its an anti-virus. owner of this comp thinks its full of viruses even ater 8 complete re installs of ubuntu
[09:36] <skiy> doh, Tedd what is it?
[09:36] <skiy> OK
[09:36] <crimsun> ubun-newbie: sigh, fine, I'll just assume you're using analog speakers. In that case, mute 'IEC958'
[09:36] <Tedd> skiy: Intel.
[09:37] <Tedd> I'll just pastebin it for you to see if you'd prefer.
[09:37] <skiy> chrom: you don't get viruses on ubuntu, and even if you did, how is a windows based virus checker going to help?
[09:37] <skiy> Tedd: yes
[09:37] <ubun-newbie> what is the command to do that
[09:37] <skiy> I suspect you are lacking the snd-intel8x0 module
[09:37] <chrom> thats what i told him.
[09:37] <Tedd> skiy: I'll paste the whole output.
[09:37] <zandaa> well, I can't login as root, that's clear to me now
[09:37] <skiy> chrom: lo11erZ
[09:37] <chrom> is there a virus cheakers anyways for ubuntu. to keep him calmed down
[09:38] <rambo3> you dont need to
[09:38] <ardchoille> zandaa: there is no need to log in as root
[09:38] <ubun-newbie> Segmenteringsfel
[09:38] <ubun-newbie> Du har troligtvis hittat ett fel i XMMS. Var vnlig
[09:38] <ubun-newbie> och g till http://bugs.xmms.org och fyll i en
[09:38] <ubun-newbie> felanmlan.
[09:38] <crimsun> ubun-newbie: use any mixer to unmute it. For instance, the volume control
[09:38] <dieffel> hello! How can i get my ATI 9200 All-in-Wonder video-adaptor to display TV in Ubuntu?
[09:38] <navarone> chrom you can install aegis virus scanner thru synaptic
[09:38] <flotto> moin
[09:38] <zandaa> ardchoille, yes there is... I can't access my HD
[09:38] <ubun-newbie> i get now error xmms
[09:38] <skiy> yes, I would suggest using "apt-cache search virus"
[09:38] <chrom> can you give me the url? or how to do that>
[09:38] <stappen> how do i install the flashplugin?
[09:38] <Tedd> skiy: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/454501
[09:38] <flotto> is anyone able to speak german?
[09:38] <navarone> chrom are you on ubuntu now?
[09:38] <chrom> yea
[09:39] <x_or> Can someone help me understand why network routing is not broken with ubuntu.  I've configured a wireless card for DHCP and cannot seem to select the eth1 device as the gateway device.  This means I don't have a default route.  I cannot add it either:  sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.1 returns "SIOCADDRT: Network is down"
[09:39] <Knowerrors> How do I check user/group privaleges, and what should they be?  I think I screwed em up by enabling root account
[09:39] <ubun-newbie> i open amarok and i am playing drumms
[09:39] <x_or> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart does not fix this either.
[09:39] <ubun-newbie> i hear the drumms playing
[09:39] <ubun-newbie> can something be wrong with xmms
[09:39] <crimsun> ubun-newbie: change xmms to use alsa, not oss
[09:39] <lsuactiafner> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Sources
[09:39] <lsuactiafner>   Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[09:39] <lsuactiafner> whats up with that
[09:39] <crimsun> ubun-newbie: it's in the preferences.
[09:39] <skiy> ubun-newbie: wont it start?
[09:39] <lsuactiafner> been like that for a week about
[09:40] <navarone> chrom>go to sysem/adminis/synaptic...put in user password and go to edit /search type aegis...when search is done select package and apply
[09:40] <crimsun> Tedd: I need the output from ''amixer''
[09:40] <skiy> chrom: or go to a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install aegis"
[09:40] <ubun-newbie> the xmms wont start now
[09:40] <ubun-newbie> can i remove and install a new one
[09:40] <zandaa> Ubuntu doesn't want to cooperate....
[09:40] <ardchoille> zandaa: is that on the same box you're using to IRC now?
[09:40] <crimsun> ubun-newbie: pkill xmms, then restart it, and change the output plugin preference to use ALSA not OSS
[09:40] <navarone> chrom>I think package is called aegis-virus-scanner for apt-get
[09:40] <zandaa> @ardchoille yes.
[09:40] <Tedd> Crimsun: Just amixer in terminal/
[09:41] <AngryParsley> oh, is there an amd64 build of firefox 1.5 for linux?
[09:41] <ardchoille> zandaa: if you couldn't access the hd, your user account wouldn't work
[09:41] <rambo3> crimsun you are thinking of alsamixer
[09:41] <AngryParsley> I know ff1.5 isn't in the repositories yet, but I'd like to install it myself
[09:41] <crimsun> rambo3: no, I'm thinking of amixer.
[09:41] <zandaa> ardchoille, my user account works... but not my HD (it says owner: root, group: root)
[09:41] <crimsun> Tedd: yes
[09:41] <Tedd> crimsun, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/454507 is amixer's output
[09:41] <skiy> AngryParsley: You can just use the 32 bit one?
[09:42] <AngryParsley> skiy: no, it crashes
[09:42] <crimsun> Tedd: does muting 'External Amplifier' resolve it?
[09:42] <skiy> AngryParsley: Any errors?, or a crashlog?
[09:42] <AngryParsley> skiy: I'm using the x86-64 version of ubuntu
[09:42] <Tedd> How would I do that?
[09:42] <ardchoille> zandaa: "my user account works... but not my HD"  <-- think about that for a minute
[09:42] <chrisx1> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0c45:602a Microdia Meade ETX-105EC Camera <- How Do i install it?
[09:42] <AngryParsley> skiy: yeah, tons of errors about libraries
[09:42] <Tedd> I'm sorry, crimsun, I'm not too good with this.
[09:43] <AngryParsley> skiy: the 64 bit version of 1.07 runs just fine
[09:43] <ubun-newbie> where is that on xmms i dont see alsa
[09:43] <crimsun> Tedd: amixer sset 'External Amplifier' off
[09:43] <crimsun> ubun-newbie: Options> Preferences> Plugins
[09:43] <zandaa> adchoille, what's there to think about???
[09:43] <crimsun> ubun-newbie: then under Output
[09:43] <skiy> AngryParsley: well SuSE have one
[09:43] <skiy> AngryParsley: a 64 bit mozilla
[09:43] <skiy> so perhaps you can use alien on that?
[09:43] <ubun-newbie> i have it in swedish
[09:44] <psusi> I'm running amd64 dapper which has firefox 1.5... but some days things break
[09:44] <AngryParsley> skiy: I guess I could, but I was just looking for firefox, not mozilla
[09:44] <Tedd> crimsun: No change
[09:44] <jordo23> Is there a Ubuntu package for Azareus?  I am trying to install it, and it is listed in the Debian stable packages list, but when I apt for it I get that it is not found.
[09:44] <poimen> I tried installing the em64t kernel with smp and It returned with errors what should I do install the amd64 operon smp kernel?
[09:44] <skiy> AngryParsley: that's what I meant
[09:44] <AngryParsley> oh
[09:45] <skiy> poimen: what errors?
[09:45] <navarone> poimen> install appropriate kernel for your system arch
[09:45] <crimsun> Tedd: ok, just to make sure, did you dist-upgrade to Breezy from Hoary?
[09:45] <Tedd> No, went to Breezy from Windows. :D
[09:45] <Tedd> (Best thing I ever did imo)
[09:45] <AngryParsley> hah
[09:45] <skiy> Tedd: hooray! :)
[09:45] <hkais> hi
[09:46] <ubun-newbie> same sh*
[09:46] <ubun-newbie> i changed to alsa
[09:46] <skiy> hkais: hia!
[09:46] <crimsun> Tedd: ok, then you need to unmute 'External Amplifier', then toggle the 'Exchange Front/Surround' element
[09:46] <hkais> anyone here who knows how to configure vncserver to run with my X?
[09:46] <psusi> hkais: there's a howto on the forums
[09:46] <Fujitsu> hkai, hi!
[09:46] <proxosi> Amaranth: you there?
[09:46] <navarone> Tedd> same here...tho I kept windows fro Halo...<s> and a few others progs...but am considering reducing its partition more...lol
[09:46] <zandaa> ardchoille, what should I do about my HD then to fix it?
[09:47] <chrom> okay i dled aegis. where is it so i can run it for him?
[09:47] <proxosi> fujitsu: hey...
[09:47] <navarone> chrom...terminal...type aegis-virus-scanner -auto
[09:47] <crimsun> ubun-newbie: does xmms work with alsa now?
[09:48] <ubun-newbie> nope
[09:48] <ubun-newbie> same error
[09:48] <The_Isle_of_Mark> anyone here have a savage video chip?
[09:48] <ubun-newbie> xmms not working
[09:48] <chrisx1> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0c45:602a Microdia Meade ETX-105EC Camera <- How Do i install it?
[09:48] <ubun-newbie> but that program amarok works
[09:48] <navarone> chrom...or just aegis-virus-scanner should get you gui
[09:49] <proxosi> do anyone know the steps to make my firefox flash compatible if im using amd64?
[09:49] <Tedd> crimsun, I was toggling External Amp in ALSA Mixer, and toggling exchange front/surround but still nothing
[09:49] <The_Isle_of_Mark> anyone here have a savage video chip?
[09:49] <BlueDevil> ubun-newbie: check if some other program has /dev/dsp locked
[09:49] <crimsun> ubun-newbie: what's the error? Use paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:49] <Tedd> Crimsun: Do I have to unmute External Amp with terminal? If so how?
[09:49] <an_drew> I'm partitioning my harddrive for a dual boot. Just curios if the placement of the shared fat32 partition is important. i.e. at the end of the drive or between OS's etc.
[09:49] <cbear> ubun newbie, did you make sure that xmms knows to play using alsa?
[09:50] <crimsun> Tedd: your 'Center' and 'LFE' are both muted, though
[09:50] <hkais> psusi: do you know there? I need it under kde
[09:50] <chrisx1> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0c45:602a Microdia Meade ETX-105EC Camera <- How Do i install it?
[09:50] <ubun-newbie> i fsck xmms  i dont want to use xmms, amarok works fine how can i add radio stations there
[09:50] <ubun-newbie> in amarok
[09:50] <eriksti> Hi.. I'm doing this howto: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623        ...   on the 7th step or something I am suppose to type "make" in "ieee80211-1.0.3", but it finds "/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build/include/config/ieee80211", and even if I answer yes to remove it, nothing happens.  I have done this many times and nothing happens. Scared of screwing the whole thing up like I've done before I'd like some advise
[09:50] <Tedd> crimsun, I really have no idea what that means.
[09:50] <BlueDevil> chrisx1: do you have mplayer installed?
[09:51] <crimsun> Tedd: it means you need to unmute them.
[09:51] <ubun-newbie> how can i add shout cast from stream tuner to amarok
[09:51] <cbear> some players requre you to choose your output, like oss or alsa, etc, this may be the problem
[09:51] <chrisx1> BlueDevil, yes
[09:51] <ubun-newbie> same problem cbear
[09:51] <The_Isle_of_Mark> anyone here have a savage video chip?
[09:51] <Tedd> crimsun: Just did it. STill nothing
[09:51] <BlueDevil> chrisx1: mplayer tv:// -tv driver=v4l
[09:52] <intelikey> eriksti running 'make' as user it wont have permission to remove anything in /lib   you can try sudo'ing it.
[09:52] <Knowerrors> I know youre not supposed to, but I enabled root for a while and think that has caused problems, how do I go about fixing permissions back how they should be?
[09:52] <angelo> bjr quelqun conait un bon site de chat
[09:52] <Thorondor> does anyone know how to set firefox as the default browser? system -> preferred apps -> browser doesn't work, somehow.
[09:52] <an_drew> I'm partitioning my harddrive for a dual boot. Just curios if the placement of the shared fat32 partition is important. i.e. at the end of the drive or between OS's etc.
[09:52] <ubun-newbie> lissen, when i start streamingtuner , i click shout cast then i add a station then xmms starts to play it, how can i make that amarok plays that streamin
[09:52] <crimsun> Tedd: then unmute 'External Amplifier'
[09:52] <Tedd> From ALSA?
[09:52] <Amaranth> proxosi: Yeah.
[09:52] <eriksti> intelikey: same thing happens with "sudo make"
[09:52] <Tedd> Crimsun: Done
[09:52] <rambo3> an_drew it doesnt matter
[09:53] <Tedd> Still nothin'.
[09:53] <navarone> an_drew, doesn't matter...but good idea including fat32 to share
[09:53] <intelikey> Knowerrors ?   "enabled root"  and  "permissions"  are not related
[09:53] <proxosi> amaranth: so how do i get firefox to compatible with flash.. if im amd64?
[09:53] <BlueDevil> an_drew: it matters only if you have an old bios which can't boot anything past 1024 cyl
[09:53] <Amaranth> proxosi: You don't.
[09:53] <eriksti> intelikey: I also ran the previous steps with "sudo sh remove-old"
[09:53] <ubun-newbie> lissen, when i start streamingtuner , i click shout cast then i add a station then xmms starts to play it, how can i make that amarok plays that streamin?
[09:53] <proxosi> amaranth: so its impoosible?
[09:53] <_null> Are there any debs for xserver-xgl on breezy?
[09:53] <BlueDevil> proxosi: install a 32bit chroot
[09:53] <an_drew> thanks everyone
[09:53] <chrisx1> BlueDevil, Whats That Meant To Do?
[09:53] <Knowerrors> intelikey: well, some things are broken with my systemsettings accesss, and don't know how to fix it...
[09:53] <illustre> configure is giving me this error cnofigure error c compliler cannot create executables
[09:54] <Dominus-> After what seemed like a year..
[09:54] <crimsun> Tedd: please use the speaker-test utility
[09:54] <emurz> what's going on with firefox 1.5?
[09:54] <BlueDevil> chrisx1: play whatever the camera is showing
[09:54] <Tedd> crimsun, : I'm messing with the preferences. I figure I'll get it sooner or later.
[09:54] <chrisx1> it failed
[09:54] <chrisx1> !pastebin
[09:54] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[09:54] <intelikey> eriksti have you tried hiding the old,  i.e.  sudo mv /lib/<blah> .<blah>    and then run make
[09:54] <BlueDevil> chrisx1: paste there
[09:54] <crimsun> Tedd: use the speaker-test utility to test your speakers
[09:54] <chrisx1> BlueDevil, i Am
[09:54] <zandaa> ardchoille, it appears my HD has been chmodded to 500
[09:54] <zandaa> and I added myself to the root-group
[09:54] <eriksti> intelikey: I'll try it ..
[09:55] <crimsun> Tedd: that will help narrow down which mixer element(s) you need to (un)mute
[09:55] <poimen> someone here running a pentium D with smp enabled?
[09:55] <bob832> anyone here familiar with audacity errors?
[09:55] <Amaranth> proxosi: It's possible is you know how to do multiarch things.
[09:55] <neighborlee> has anyone else noticed the scroll balls in gnome menus ?
[09:55] <proxosi> bluedevil: chroot? (me noob) i tried to follow a site .. that guide me to isntall firefox 32 and install flash .. and it supposed to work.. but when opening it.. it close by itself
[09:55] <Amaranth> proxosi: But I'll see you in a day or so when your firefox compile finishes.
[09:56] <intelikey> Knowerrors what kind of things are "broke"  :)
[09:56] <cafuego> a day? Have they made gcc run faster?
[09:56] <BlueDevil> Amaranth: no need to compile firefox
[09:56] <proxosi> compiling programs take that long??
[09:56] <soundray> What's the reverse of the CHAR function in OpenOffice Calc (converting a character to an ascii code)?
[09:56] <BlueDevil> proxosi: look at ubuntu forums, there's a tutorial there
[09:56] <Amaranth> BlueDevil: If you know how to do it please help.
[09:56] <Thorondor> normally not
[09:57] <Thorondor> but big programs take some time...
[09:57] <cafuego> proxosi: Depends on the programs and your machine specs
[09:57] <Knowerrors> intelikey (this is kde btw, asking in #kubuntu also), in system settings, I can't change options for storage media, and also for gtk looknfeel
[09:57] <Tedd> crimsun: I'm doing that, it's just playing static and giving me output in terminal
[09:57] <BlueDevil> proxosi: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90106&highlight=32+bit+flash+chroot
[09:57] <Millenniumgroup> Hi.. how do I change my resolution? Currently only got 3 res, 1024x768,800x600 and 640x340, linux recognises my card as an ATI Radeon 9500 but how do I change the resolution? I've edited the xorg.conf to "1280x1024" but nothing happens and I still can't pick another resolution, any ideas?
[09:57] <BlueDevil> proxosi: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575&highlight=32+bit+flash+chroot
[09:58] <soundray> How do you compare strings in OpenOffice calc? "IF" doesn't seem to accept anything other than a numeric comparison.
[09:58] <ubun-newbie> i think i miss some files amarok files they play fine when i add a radio station it does not work what file i miss
[09:58] <soundray> Millenniumgroup, have you restarted X?
[09:58] <intelikey> Knowerrors try 'sudo chown <username>:<username> $HOME -R '    where <username> means you of course.
[09:58] <IRCat> hiya,  can anyone help with sound problems?
[09:58] <Tedd> crimsun: I'm doing that, it's just playing static and giving me output in terminal
[09:59] <ubun-newbie> helllooooooooo
[09:59] <Tedd> Shit. Err. crimsun, should I pastebin the results?
[09:59] <navarone> Knowerrors>take a look at Config editor in apps menu...sry not familiar with kde or it's menus
[09:59] <Millenniumgroup> soundray yup..
[09:59] <proxosi> bluedevil: i tried yesterday... and follow all the steps.. but it doesnt work.. when opening it.. it loads.. and close
[09:59] <ubun-newbie> what files do i need to download to be able to listen to radio
[09:59] <chrisx1> BlueDevil, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5521
[09:59] <Jowi> ubun-newbie: did you install mp3 support yet?
[09:59] <ubun-newbie> nope whats the name for that file
[10:00] <ubun-newbie> streamtuner i installed that one
[10:00] <soundray> Millenniumgroup, perhaps run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg instead of editing xorg.conf directly.
[10:00] <zandaa> @Jowi, is mp3 support standardly installed when installing from a CD?
[10:00] <intelikey> bose accustic wave....  oh nm.
[10:00] <IRCat> I've got a Compaq Deskpro PIII.   Don't know what sound card.
[10:00] <BlueDevil> proxosi: how did you run it?
[10:00] <Jowi> zandaa: no
[10:00] <Knowerrors> intelikey: wow, that command is really cranking the cpu
[10:00] <soundray> Millenniumgroup, if all else fails, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for any hints why 1280 won't work.
[10:00] <ubun-newbie> which files do i need to download for mp3 support
[10:01] <Jowi> ubun-newbie: as we were discussing, oh about 2 hours ago, most radio stations stream mp3. you need that
[10:01] <Jowi> !mp3
[10:01] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:01] <Jowi> follow those instructions
[10:01] <proxosi> bluedevil: by accessing through gui?
[10:01] <ubun-newbie> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins
[10:01] <ubun-newbie> i installed that shi*
[10:01] <ubun-newbie> 3 hours ago
[10:01] <BlueDevil> proxosi: what does that mean?
[10:02] <Knowerrors> intelikey: didn't fix it though
[10:02] <Jowi> ubun-newbie: for xmms you need xmms-mad
[10:02] <proxosi> emm
[10:02] <soundray> How to get a number from a string in an OOo spreadsheet? (The reverse of char() )
[10:02] <zandaa> ah, I get it now... the sudo command gives me temporary root access for the procedure I want to execute
[10:02] <ubun-newbie> i dont want to use xmms
[10:02] <proxosi> i wen to the directory where i unpacked
[10:02] <BlueDevil> chrisx1: hmm, i took a look but it seems an ioctl call fails :(
[10:02] <Tedd> Can anyone help me get all 4 of my speakers working now
[10:02] <Jowi> ubun-newbie: for gsteamer you need gstreamer0.8-mad
[10:02] <proxosi> and i opened from there
[10:02] <Tedd> I've tried enabling Surround, Surround Jack and all that
[10:02] <Tedd> But nothin' works.
[10:02] <polk> how do I remove packages in ubuntu?
[10:02] <intelikey> Knowerrors sounds like kde/kdeapp error then.
[10:03] <chrisx1> BlueDevil, What Do i Need To Do
[10:03] <BlueDevil> proxosi: which tutorial did you follow?
[10:03] <intelikey> Knowerrors any error message ?
[10:03] <Jowi> ubun-newbie: well, streamtuner uses xmms for playing radio so you need that
[10:03] <proxosi> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90106&highlight=32+bit+flash+chroot] 
[10:03] <ubun-newbie> i removed xmms now i did isntall xmms-mad is this enough and i will install gstrea08-mad
[10:03] <intelikey> polk 'sudo apt-get remove <blah> '
[10:04] <Jowi> ubun-newbie: if you want to use streamtuner you need xmms as well
[10:04] <polk> thank you intelikey
[10:04] <intelikey> polk ' aptitude  or  synaptic ' also
[10:04] <Knowerrors> intelikey: nope
[10:04] <Jowi> ubun-newbie: sudo apt-get install xmms xmms-mad gstreamer0.8-mad
[10:05] <BlueDevil> chrisx1: dunno
[10:05] <BlueDevil> proxosi: did you run /usr/local/bin/firefox32 ?
[10:05] <intelikey> Knowerrors if you can find the name of the app start it from a term and see what all it spews out
[10:05] <challah> hey all can someone help me get my monitor workin... having hard time installing drivers...
[10:05] <chrisx1> BlueDevil, :( k anyhoo i brb then see if rebootin helps i aint rebooted yet i just plugged it in
[10:05] <ubun-newbie> done...
[10:05] <Jowi> challah: what monitor and which graphic card?
[10:05] <intelikey> konsole even
[10:05] <ubun-newbie> stile same shit same error it can not connect to shoutcast
[10:05] <Jowi> ubun-newbie: that is strange. works fine for me on first try
[10:06] <challah> jowi: it would end up bein my main monitor... nvidia geforce fx 5200...
[10:06] <ubun-newbie> i hear voice on amarok
[10:06] <ubun-newbie> it plays sounds on amarok
[10:06] <proxosi> bluedevil: no i didnt.
[10:06] <BlueDevil> how many fps do you guys get with glxgears ?
[10:06] <Knowerrors> intelikey: I get SIGSEGV error sometimes while fooling with storage media settings
[10:06] <proxosi> bluedevi: im supposed to?
[10:06] <Jowi> ubun-newbie: i've never used amarok so i can not help you with that
[10:06] <zandaa> Jowi, do you know how to chmod a HD?
[10:06] <ubun-newbie> ok
[10:06] <BlueDevil> proxosi: then you didn't follow the tutorial correctly
[10:07] <Jowi> challah: have you read the nvidia wiki?
[10:07] <Jowi> zandaa: what do you mean?
[10:07] <zandaa> jowi, I can't access my HD even-though I'm system administrator
[10:07] <intelikey> Knowerrors i gota go.   if you are still having trubble with it when i get back i'll try to help,  maybe someone can fix it for you   :)
[10:07] <challah> jowi: yes... i have installed the drivers
[10:07] <Jowi> zandaa: what type of HDD and what filesystem?
[10:07] <BlueDevil> proxosi: from now on do everything a tutorial tells you to
[10:08] <Millenniumgroup> soundray, doesn't work :(
[10:08] <proxosi> ok
[10:08] <Jowi> challah: and did you do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?
[10:08] <zandaa> jowi, it's a 160gb S-ATA HDD, the partition it is mounted to is a linux partition
[10:08] <Millenniumgroup> soundray, it doesn't work :( resolution is still the same 1024x768
[10:08] <challah> jowi: yeah
[10:08] <proxosi> bluedevil: for step 2.. i can extract it anywhere right?
[10:08] <challah> jowi: and then i reboot and cant rollback
[10:08] <Jowi> zandaa: sorry, never set up a sata drive in linux :-/
[10:08] <Thorondor> how do i set my standard brower to firefox instead of konquerer?
[10:08] <soundray> Millenniumgroup, any hints in /var/log/Xorg.0.log concerning the 1280 resolution?
[10:08] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: what's the problem?
[10:08] <challah> jowi: cause im an idiot...
[10:08] <zandaa> Thoronder, it should already be
[10:09] <Jowi> challah: probably not. you missed something. where do you go wrong?
[10:09] <Thorondor> well, after installing KDE it's not anymore.
[10:09] <BlueDevil> proxosi: in a subdirectory under your home dir is fine
[10:09] <zandaa> Thorondor, ah so that's why... I don't know then
[10:09] <Millenniumgroup> guys im quite new to linux , bluedevil my screen reso won't change after fiddling with xorg+xserver (always 1024.x768) let me check soundray
[10:09] <DGauge> ompaul: you still here?
[10:10] <Jowi> Thorondor: ask in #kubuntu :)
[10:10] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: how are you trying to change the resolution?
[10:10] <Roey> hey all
[10:10] <MiSS_n00b> Hi people, I'm having problems with my video drivers is there some way I can uninstall them so I can reinstall?
[10:10] <Thorondor> jowi: i
[10:10] <Roey> listen
[10:10] <Thorondor> jowi: i'm in gnome right now
[10:10] <challah> jowi: i think it could have been when i asked to get those packets... for some reason on the repository box it wouldnt remember that i checked everything in bb/su/u
[10:10] <tonyyarusso> What apt line do I need to be able to get opera?
[10:10] <Millenniumgroup> bluedevil, when I installed ubuntu for the first time (xserver) when it didn't change my res, I tried to gedit the xorg.conf
[10:10] <Roey> I got fed up with Ubuntu, but I learned something new (namely, sudo).  Thanks for being so strict about it in here! :)
[10:10] <soundray> I'm trying to find out whether a field in an OOo spreadsheet matches a particular character. if(A1='M';1;0) doesn't work.
[10:10] <polk> MiSS_n00b, what video drivers and what are  the problems?
[10:10] <Jowi> Thorondor: in gnome you can change default browser in the session config
[10:10] <BlueDevil> MiSS_n00b: what video drivers?
[10:11] <Millenniumgroup> reading xorg.log now, guys is there any way I could post my xorg.0.log, some place so you could see it?
[10:11] <soundray> Any spreadsheet wizard here?
[10:11] <MiSS_n00b> nvidia drivers, i stuffed up somewhere and the open gl isnt working
[10:11] <BlueDevil> !pastebin
[10:11] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[10:11] <soundray> Millenniumgroup, pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:12] <challah> jowi: but i still ended up with the propper packets
[10:12] <Millenniumgroup> soundray/bluedevil could you guyst plz check my config ? http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/5522
[10:12] <feugan3333> MiSS_n00b: you could just remove the package (nvidia-glx) using synaptic
[10:12] <challah> jowi: ima try again ill start from the beginning... thanks
[10:12] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: run "xdpyinfo |grep -A 100 'number of extensions'|grep -B 100 'default screen'" without the quotes and paste the output
[10:12] <Jowi> challah: check that you installed: nvidia-settings and nvidia-glx
[10:12] <tonyyarusso> soundray: Not a wizard, but there's some chance I could help you.  Tell us what the topic is.
[10:12] <zandaa> darn the fricking HD
[10:13] <Jowi> challah you also need the restricted-modules for either 386 or 686 depending of which kernel you have chosen
[10:13] <soundray> Millenniumgroup, your X thinks that your monitor isn't capable.
[10:13] <DGauge> ompaul: here is the result (had to take care of something first) -> http://pastebin.com/454568
[10:13] <challah> yeah
[10:13] <challah> jowi: yeah that was the difference between the 2 wikis
[10:13] <soundray> tonyyarusso,  I'm trying to find out whether a field in an OOo spreadsheet matches a particular character. if(A1='M';1;0) doesn't work.
[10:13] <challah> jowi: was just typin that
[10:13] <Jowi> challah: then "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"
[10:13] <xukun> Seveas, thanks for that tip. that one about smartmontools. I foud out that I have to backup and replace my harddisk very soon
[10:13] <navarone> question: I have added in the last 4 months extra hdd, a sb live soundcard to replace onboard and a ethernet/network card. Will this put too much strain on a 300w ps?
[10:13] <soundray> tonyyarusso, any way to compare strings in Calc?
[10:13] <tonyyarusso> soundray: As in writing a formula to check whether it does?
[10:13] <soundray> tonyyarusso, yes.
[10:14] <polk> MiSS_n00b, install and uninstall them from a terminal not while running X control-ALT-F1 to switch, then reboot
[10:14] <hkais> noone here with a kde and vncserver und dubuntu?
[10:14] <zandaa> navarone, I don't think it would be
[10:14] <trebuchet> hey guys what repository do I need to get ncurses-devel? and how do i make apt-get not try and upgrade everything?
[10:14] <tonyyarusso> soundray: Let me take a look...
[10:14] <Roey> challah:  great nick
[10:14] <soundray> tonyyarusso, or the reverse of char(65)='A' -- function('A')=65 ??
[10:14] <Millenniumgroup> BlueDevil, hmm clv is giving me an error about command doesn't exsist etc etc, maybe im typing it wrong? Soundray, ok.. how do I change that?
[10:14] <MiSS_n00b> do i uninstall nvidia-kernal-common as well?
[10:15] <navarone> zandaa, I didn't think so...ps is not seeming to be overworked or overheated...but fans are noisy and prob need a replacement then
[10:15] <challah> roey: thanks
[10:15] <ompaul> DGauge, you never showed what came out of df -h
[10:15] <soundray> Millenniumgroup, when you go through dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, choose 'Advanced' for monitor selection.
[10:15] <challah> roey: it started out as holler, cause everyone here yells holla!!!! like a bunch of idiots
[10:15] <Millenniumgroup> soundray, already done that
[10:15] <zandaa> navarone, fans can lower in noise with a drop of oil in the bearing
[10:15] <dooglus> trebuchet: it's in main, and it's called libncurses5-dev
[10:15] <challah> roey: and i worked in bakeries soooo
[10:15] <Millenniumgroup> I don't have my monitor manual either :/
[10:15] <DGauge> I forgot to do that :o
[10:15] <soundray> Millenniumgroup, did you copy your hsync and vertical refresh from the monitor manual?
[10:16] <navarone> zanda...did that...used electric razor oil...very thin mineral type oil...could not find sewing machine oil...shaem eh? lol
[10:16] <Millenniumgroup> soundray, I've lost my manual :( so I just used the default values
[10:16] <Millenniumgroup> default values the program presented me
[10:16] <tonyyarusso> soundray: Check the section in the Help for the MATCH function, and see if that does what you want.  It seems to find a string anywhere in an array, and might suit your purposes if you specify that array to be just one cell.
[10:16] <soundray> Millenniumgroup, that won't work. Search the web for your monitor specs using the exact model name.
[10:16] <trebuchet> dooglus, ah thanks.. wasn't showing up in dselect
[10:16] <soundray> tonyyarusso, great, thank you, I'll go reading.
[10:17] <dooglus> trebuchet: I found it with: "apt-cache search ncurses-dev"
[10:17] <Millenniumgroup> soundray, sorry again bud.. but is there a comand that will show me my full monitor model name?
[10:17] <Millenniumgroup> so I can google it?
[10:17] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: what clv?
[10:17] <Millenniumgroup> clv?
[10:17] <navarone> zandaa...so far they are just noisy...no idea which one or all. Don't think it is cpu heatsink fan...have not had any crashing...tho some graphical glitches on changing from enlightenment to gnome session...
[10:17] <Roey> challah:  you like challah?
[10:17] <tonyyarusso> McAffee doesn't run on Linux to anyone's knowledge, does it?  (No, I don't want to; I'm looking into a University's network security policy.)
[10:17] <Roey> challah:  it's interesting isn't it?
[10:18] <Roey> challah:  sorta sweet for a rbead.
[10:18] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: try to use         HorizSync       30-81 and VertRefresh     56-75
[10:18] <Roey> bread.
[10:18] <FrdPrefct> tonyyarusso: Try f-secure or clamav
[10:18] <challah> roey: i make french toast with challah bread
[10:18] <tonyyarusso> s/McAffee/McAfee/
[10:18] <Roey> challah:  hahaha
[10:18] <trebuchet> dooglus, last time I used debian, dselect was the way to go.. has it fallen out of favour? i'm a gentoo user, just making a custom kernel for a friend's laptop
[10:18] <zandaa> navarone, is there a lot of dust on your fans/hardware??? (better remove that)
[10:18] <ompaul> tonyyarusso, ehh no, but then are they expecting a windows box - that might be all they set up for
[10:18] <ubun-newbie> do i need any codec to play radio stations on amarok
[10:18] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: [23:14]  <Millenniumgroup> BlueDevil, hmm clv is giving me an error
[10:18] <challah> roey: i used to make it every sunday morning and the guy in the deli next to us would make eggs and bacon and stuff
[10:18] <Roey> challah:  they have a challah for pesach right?
[10:18] <Roey> ah
[10:18] <str8edge> roey: nope
[10:19] <dooglus> trebuchet: I don't know.  I've never used dselect, and not really heard it mentioned here much at all either.
[10:19] <ompaul> tonyyarusso, start off with the well if I wanted to use a mac you would be causeing me issues and work to a GNU/Linux box :-)
[10:19] <ubun-newbie> do i need any codec to play radio stations on amarok
[10:19] <Roey> str8edge:  what
[10:19] <str8edge> challah is levened.. on pesach levened bread is not allowed
[10:19] <navarone> zandaa...I ahve had air blown thru chassis...removed and wiped fan blades when oiling...and vacuumed. Wiped drives off as well...fans bearing are just wearing out
[10:19] <Roey> str8edge:  you can make challah out of matzah meal no??
[10:19] <challah> roey: well i never personally saw any of it get "blessed" i dunno what it would be
[10:19] <tonyyarusso> ompaul: They are requiring that all student computers have it installed in order to be allowed to connect to the university network.
[10:19] <Roey> str8edge:  we bypass every restrictino like that ;)
[10:19] <Roey> *restriction
[10:19] <zandaa> navarone, that does sound like it's needing a replacement, fans aren't that expensive though
[10:19] <ompaul> tonyyarusso, install it - you don't have to run it :-)
[10:19] <challah> roey: is that what were talkin about... not familiar with the holiday
[10:20] <str8edge> roey: i have never made it out of matzah-meal
[10:20] <trebuchet> navarone, once a fan has started to go noisy, its too late to save it. oil will just quieten it for a little while until you can replace it
[10:20] <Roey> challah:  challah is only blessed when greeteing the Shabat
[10:20] <dooglus> trebuchet: people usually suggest using the GUI "synaptic" or the command line "apt-get" or perhaps "aptitude" or "debfoster".
[10:20] <tonyyarusso> ompaul: I almost wonder whether that is even legal, or if some part of anti-trust law might apply...
[10:20] <navarone> zandaa...yeah...will takea  look at weekend
[10:20] <Roey> challah:  aaah gotcha
[10:20] <str8edge> Roey: thats when we have it.
[10:20] <Roey> str8edge:  well yeah
[10:20] <trebuchet> dooglus, ok thanks for the hints :)
[10:20] <navarone> trebuchet, yup
[10:20] <DGauge> ompaul: here is the other one -> http://pastebin.com/454568
[10:20] <Roey> str8edge:  I don't though
[10:20] <ubun-newbie> do i need any codec to play radio stations on amarok
[10:20] <Roey> str8edge:  (vegan here)
[10:20] <vr_> hey all, i'm not getting any sound in rhythmbox (mp3s) but I can play them fine with xmms. what am i missing ?
[10:20] <tonyyarusso> ompaul: They have a bot running on the network that supposedly checks for compliance, and boots anyone out of it.
[10:21] <Roey> str8edge:  it stinks to have to eat matzah or something while everyone else eats real bread.
[10:21] <ompaul> tonyyarusso, I suggest you talk to the admins
[10:21] <challah> roey... i was working as like a bakers assistant/pastry chef...
[10:21] <str8edge> roey: was vegan, then vegetarin, now I eat small amounts of meet
[10:21] <str8edge> meat
[10:21] <tonyyarusso> ompaul: Although I have no idea what that bot would even do if it encountered a Linux box.  Probably have a minor stroke and collapse for a few hours.
[10:21] <Funzo> can anyone tell me if ubuntu for the mac supports the airport 802.11b card?
[10:21] <tonyyarusso> ompaul: That's the next step.
[10:21] <zandaa> anyone know how to change the permissions on a HD through the terminal???
[10:21] <ubun-newbie> do i need any codec to play radio stations on amarok
[10:21] <soundray> Millenniumgroup, just look at the FCC sticker :)
[10:21] <psusi> meat good... arrrrr
[10:22] <Roey> str8edge:  ah
[10:22] <tonyyarusso> zandaa: Check /etc/fstab for its mounting options.
[10:22] <Roey> str8edge:  I can't do it morally.
[10:22] <challah> roey: it would get made or baked where i worked and get shipped out in wholesale or to like a country club or banquet hall if it was like pastries or a cake...
[10:22] <navarone> trebuchet> computer is on hardwood lamiante as well...no cushioning to diffuse vibrations and such
[10:22] <psusi> zandaa: what do you mean? 'on a HD'?
[10:22] <zandaa> psusi, just to change the permissions like who can read/write stuff on it
[10:22] <Roey> challah:  challah in a non-Jewish setting? I didn't know they had those
[10:23] <ompaul> DGauge, you did not do what I last asked >>>>>DGauge, you never showed what came out of df -h <<<<<
[10:23] <str8edge> roey: my wife is somewhat intollerant to soy.. and we want to avoid giving my daughter a soy allergy.
[10:23] <ledh> Hey PPL!
[10:23] <Roey> str8edge:  got it
[10:23] <psusi> zandaa: every file in the filesystem has its own set of permissions... you can set it by looking at the file properties in nautilus, or chmod from the command line
[10:23] <DGauge> the link I just put is what came out of df -h
[10:23] <Millenniumgroup> BlueDevil.. I altered the values as you suggested, and it did change my resolution to something else other then 1280x1024, something lower and weird
[10:23] <Roey> str8edge:  I'm gonna have a helluva time finding a wife
[10:23] <Roey> arg
[10:23] <tonyyarusso> I could have sworn Opera was in either the Ubuntu or Debian repos, now where'd it go?
[10:24] <Millenniumgroup> you got another value I could try?
[10:24] <FarrisG> I'm having problems with evms. I get segfaults when I try to expand a container. This doesn't happen on my debian box, just on my ubuntu box. Any ideas?
[10:24] <ledh> I've installed OpenOffice2... but the 1.1 version is still installed... how do i uninstall it?
[10:24] <ompaul> tonyyarusso, however be aware they may want you to jump through some technical hoops to allow you on the network
[10:24] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: paste the new Xorg.0.log
[10:24] <tonyyarusso> zandaa: What file system?
[10:24] <Millenniumgroup> I now got 1 extra resolution to pick 834x624
[10:24] <Millenniumgroup> k
[10:24] <DGauge> df -h output this -> http://pastebin.com/454587
[10:24] <Millenniumgroup> what was the command again to view it?
[10:24] <vr_> hey all, i'm not getting any sound in rhythmbox (mp3s) but I can play them fine with xmms. what am i missing ?
[10:24] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: what monitor? CRT/TFT?
[10:24] <tonyyarusso> ompaul: Hoops are fine, as long as they can be gotten through, right?
[10:24] <Millenniumgroup> CRT
[10:24] <ledh> I've installed OpenOffice2... but the 1.1 version is still installed... how do i uninstall it?
[10:25] <ledh> :(
[10:25] <Millenniumgroup> BlueDevil, what's the command again to view my config file?
[10:25] <str8edge> Roey: try living in an area where there are 3 jewish girl in your age range..
[10:25] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: try HorizSync	30-96
[10:26] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: and VertRefresh	50-160
[10:26] <Roey> str8edge:  dude, rockville/bethesda is at the heart of it all.
[10:26] <soundray> BlueDevil, Millenniumgroup, guessing is dangerous...
[10:26] <ubun-newbie> how do i isntall realplayer
[10:26] <Roey> str8edge:  i have a Chabad in my back yard in Gaithersburg MD
[10:26] <Roey> challah:  hey again
[10:26] <soundray> BlueDevil, Millenniumgroup, if your CRT is reasonably recent, it'll warn you though if you go out of spec.
[10:26] <BlueDevil> soundray: any better idea?
[10:26] <DuffyX56> To anyone who can help me with gParted, I was messing with it and I made a new disklabel and now my whole second harddrive is gray and all my other stuff like the swap and the linux partition is gone....should I continue making another partition and will my stuff come back or am I screwed?
[10:26] <str8edge> Chabad?
[10:27] <ompaul> tonyyarusso, I would tend to agree, if they can't be gotten through then it is a matter of playing the correct politics, and that does not mean that you fire off some random missile, it means you take three days to think about an answer then you write it, then you wait a day
[10:27] <soundray> BlueDevil, Millenniumgroup, use the "Medium" option for monitor selection in reconfigure?
[10:27] <ledh> I've installed OpenOffice2... but the 1.1 version is still installed... how do i uninstall it?
[10:27] <confrey> hi everybody
[10:27] <ompaul> tonyyarusso, the you read it again and check if it is a good arguement.
[10:27] <BlueDevil> DuffyX56: did you write the changes to disk?
[10:27] <psusi> ledh: remove the packages in synaptic
[10:27] <ubun-newbie> how do i isntall realplayer
[10:27] <DuffyX56> no, i just left it gray...what should I do?
[10:27] <Millenniumgroup> ok, I haven't changed my config yet, should I try medium in xserver?
[10:27] <tonyyarusso> ompaul: Of course.
[10:28] <psusi> DuffyX56: then cancel the changes
[10:28] <topyli> ledh: search for openoffice in synaptic. remove all the packages that don't say they're openoffice.org2
[10:28] <ompaul> DGauge, okay so your running from the first drive, what is on the second one? rh?
[10:28] <ledh> i'm a newby at this OS
[10:28] <confrey> I have a wifi usb, when I attach it I see the prism2_usb module is loaded; but I can't use it; what's missing?
[10:28] <ledh> sorry
[10:28] <ubun-newbie> how do i isntall realplayer
[10:28] <guerby> bonsoir, y-a-t'il un moyen d'installer d'un coups les package utiles aux developpers (make, gcc, libc6-dev, ...) sur une ubuntu 5.04 en ligne de commande ?
[10:28] <DuffyX56> psusi: how do I partition then, and how do i cancel it?
[10:28] <topyli> ledh: don't be sorry, hack on! :)
[10:28] <Millenniumgroup> ubun-newbie go here http://ubuntuguide.org/
[10:29] <Millenniumgroup> and search for "realplayer"
[10:29] <DGauge> yeah I put RHs swap and boot stuff there and put the / on the first one
[10:29] <zool2005> good evening
[10:29] <ompaul> tonyyarusso, mind if I pm u?
[10:29] <DuffyX56> it all changed to unallocated, it that supposed to happen?
[10:29] <tonyyarusso> ompaul: Go ahead.
[10:30] <guerby> oops wrong language forum :)
[10:30] <BlueDevil> DuffyX56: if that was the state when you ran gparted, yes
[10:31] <zool2005> could anyone tell me how to change the resolution of my screen please? I only selected 800x600, 1274x986 when I installed and cannot see any other options now
[10:31] <DuffyX56> it wasn't, I was messing around with it and I went to Device>Set disc label and my second hd went gray and unallocated...is that how you partition then click New and make another partition?
[10:31] <DGauge> ompaul: forget about my problem I am just going to reformat my HDDs and install Windows on it again and leave it at that...easier solution than trying to find the / for RHL
[10:32] <ledh> all the green squares are the packs installed... right?
[10:32] <confrey> zool2005, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and choose all modes you want
[10:32] <zool2005> cheers
[10:32] <DuffyX56> o.o
[10:32] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: did that work?
[10:33] <ledh> how do i change my font color here? hahaha!!
[10:33] <soundray> tonyyarusso, thank you for your hint -- I found a way to get what I want using MATCH()
[10:33] <tonyyarusso> soundray: Perfect.
[10:34] <DuffyX56> soo, to partition do I set a disclabel and add a new partition and will it go back to the regular menu?? Please Help.
[10:34] <ardchoille> soundray: be careful when playing with mathes ;)
[10:34] <soundray> Millenniumgroup, how are you getting on? Tried Medium?
[10:34] <Millenniumgroup> trying it now guys
[10:35] <soundray> ardchoille, yes, thanks, burnt my fingers more than once... :)
[10:35] <confrey> I have a wifi usb, when I attach it I see the prism2_usb module is loaded; but I can't use it; what's missing?
[10:36] <ardchoille> soundray: lol
[10:36] <BlueDevil> confrey: did you configure it?
[10:36] <chrisx1> rebooting NOW
[10:36] <Millenniumgroup> whats the command again to view my xserver?
[10:36] <DuffyX56> o.o
[10:36] <Millenniumgroup> I mean run it?
[10:36] <confrey> BlueDevil, no; I don't know how
[10:36] <chrisx1> startx
[10:36] <soundray> Millenniumgroup, X
[10:36] <ledh> =(
[10:37] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: to view what?
[10:37] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: the logs?
[10:37] <ledh> all the green squares are the packs installed on synaptic?... right?
[10:37] <Millenniumgroup> soundray, I mean to run it dpkg something?
[10:37] <BlueDevil> ledh: yes
[10:37] <ledh> n_n
[10:37] <soundray> Millenniumgroup, 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[10:37] <Mitja> Is there a function that tells you bytes per sector of a .img or .iso?
[10:38] <BlueDevil> Mitja: usually 512
[10:38] <confrey> BlueDevil, can you suggest me how to configure it?
[10:38] <BlueDevil> confrey: ifconfig
[10:38] <soundray> Millenniumgroup, how old is that CRT of yours?
[10:39] <soundray> there he goes...
[10:39] <tonyyarusso> Found the apt line for opera if anyone cares.
[10:39] <bor> SWAT: hi and sorry, I hadn't got much time and I don't have it now but I'll investigate on it on weekend.  if it's urgent for you, just ask here again if someone other knows how to solve the filesize limit in mkisofs.
[10:39] <confrey> BlueDevil, I havn't the device wlan0
[10:39] <illustre> well clearly not able to resize with the live-cd so i will need to try the paprtitioning with the regular cd instalation
[10:40] <MWettendorff> anyone here good with MySQL???
[10:40] <soundray> MWettendorff, I've made some baby steps...
[10:40] <skeld> anyone use ntop?  I cant find a conf file
[10:40] <soundray> MWettendorff, what is it?
[10:41] <agk__> is er ook iemand uit nederland
[10:41] <soundray> !nl
[10:41] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[10:41] <challah> ok i have a question before i restart my computer
[10:41] <challah> about my nvidia drivers i just installed
[10:41] <MWettendorff> Soundray: how do i see if the server is running??
[10:42] <soundray> MWettendorff, 'ps aux | grep mysql' ?
[10:42] <MWettendorff> soundray: and how do i make sure that it starts when ever i start the pC?
[10:42] <ledh> i'm having errors with the backdoor's ports when i update my OS... is somthing wrong? how do i repair that? =(
[10:43] <soundray> MWettendorff, having a file called /etc/init.d/mysql normally should make sure that it starts automatically.
[10:43] <jazzKa> hellO!
[10:43] <Millenniumgroup> I tried medium - 1280x1024 60@ still the same resolution :(
[10:43] <BlueDevil> MWettendorff: man update-rc.d
[10:43] <jazzKa> which are the default services running on a new Ubuntu installation?
[10:44] <soundray> MWettendorff, from the ps command you should get at least one line that contains /usr/bin/mysqld_safe
[10:44] <jazzKa> I need to know, but I have added and removed several services, so...
[10:44] <lsuactiafner> jazzKa : ps auxww | grep -b bash
[10:44] <lsuactiafner> jazzKa : ps auxww | grep -v bash
[10:44] <ledh> i'm having errors with the backdoor's ports when i update my OS... is somthing wrong? how do i repair that? =(
[10:44] <MWettendorff> ps command??
[10:44] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: did you try the hsync and vrefresh values i gave you?
[10:44] <soundray> MWettendorff, 'ps aux | grep mysql'
[10:45] <Millenniumgroup> BlueDevil, hmm no.. if it can damage my monitor, im scared..?
[10:45] <MWettendorff> morten    2513  0.0  0.3   3456   800 pts/0    S+   22:45   0:00 grep mysql
[10:45] <soundray> Millenniumgroup, how old is your monitor?
[10:45] <zandaa> anyone familiar with chmod?
[10:45] <jazzKa> can someone with the a new ubuntu installation tell which are the network running services?
[10:45] <MWettendorff> i get that when i run that
[10:45] <Millenniumgroup> soundray.. hmm like 2000 I think
[10:46] <soundray> MWettendorff, it's not running then. Did you install the Ubuntu mysql packages?
[10:46] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: if your monitor doesn't support the refresh rates it should enter standby mode
[10:46] <soundray> Millenniumgroup, what size?
[10:46] <MWettendorff> yea i did..
[10:46] <Millenniumgroup> 17"
[10:46] <ledh> i'm having errors with the backdoor's ports when i update my OS... is somthing wrong? how do i repair that? =(
[10:46] <eXistenZ> erm
[10:47] <BlueDevil> ledh: what kind of errors?
[10:47] <eXistenZ> is firefox 1.5 up for ubuntu yet?
[10:47] <crimsun> no.
[10:47] <BlueDevil> eXistenZ: it's not backported
[10:47] <soundray> MWettendorff, including mysql-server ?
[10:47] <eXistenZ> WE NEED IT
[10:47] <BlueDevil> eXistenZ: prolly never will
[10:47] <Gambit---> http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/ubuntu.jpg someone wanna explain this joke to me? :)
[10:47] <ledh> hmmm... like... couldn't get the files.... no update...
[10:47] <eXistenZ> BlueDevil, why? :/
[10:47] <ledh> let me paste them here
[10:47] <ledh> n_n
[10:47] <Millenniumgroup> 17" that's my monitor size
[10:47] <Jowi> ledh: the backports you mean? for breezy?
[10:47] <ledh> nop
[10:47] <MWettendorff> sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[10:47] <MWettendorff> $ sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-auth-mysql
[10:47] <MWettendorff> $ sudo apt-get install php4-mysql
[10:47] <ledh> Hoary
[10:47] <eXistenZ> Gambit---, nasty
[10:48] <Jowi> oh
[10:48] <MWettendorff> that is what i have been running
[10:48] <Millenniumgroup> BlueDevil..ok what was the info you gave me far, the synch one?
[10:48] <BlueDevil> eXistenZ: it would require lots of packages to be retested/recompliled/backported
[10:48] <MWettendorff> insted of PHP4 i have installed php5
[10:48] <derrick81787> milleniumgroup: my 17" monitor runs a 1280X1024 resolution
[10:48] <ViKiTo> hi
[10:48] <Gambit---> eXistenZ, well the rest of them I get, just wondering wtf's with that :)
[10:48] <jazzKa> which IDS do you recommend for a domestic user just a bit paranoic on security?
[10:48] <eXistenZ> Gambit---, imagine if my boss would see this pic, I'd be fired immediately.
[10:48] <logan77666> anybody knows how to disable thumbnails in nautilus for html files only ?
[10:48] <Millenniumgroup> yeah on windows I run 1280x1024 as well
[10:48] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: why didn't you save it the first time I gave it to you?
[10:49] <ViKiTo> could anybody tell me how to install java
[10:49] <Jowi> Millenniumgroup: is it LCD or CRT?
[10:49] <soundray> Millenniumgroup, are you sure you want to torture your eyes with that resolution on 17"?
[10:49] <Millenniumgroup> CRT
[10:49] <mrkoje> jazzKa... might try tripwire
[10:49] <Gambit-> eXistenZ, wacky, sucks to be you.  Take a look at the rest of them, though, that's the only one that's mildly nws
[10:49] <Jowi> Millenniumgroup: what brand and model?
[10:49] <Millenniumgroup> soundray, yeah Im sure... BlueDevil sorry bud.. I dunno why
[10:49] <ViKiTo> could anybody tell me how to install java
[10:49] <mrkoje> jazzKa... ive never used it but I heard its good
[10:49] <Millenniumgroup> Jowi I don't know, I've lost my manual
[10:49] <soundray> MWettendorff, enter 'sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start' and see if it runs after that with the ps command.
[10:49] <jazzKa> mrkoje, thanks!
[10:50] <Jowi> Millenniumgroup: look at the backside of the monitor. should be a silvery sticker there
[10:50] <derrick81787> milleniumgroup: i would try installing the nvidia drivers and then just adjust my monitor to center the picture or do autoadjust if you have one of those on your monitor
[10:50] <popey> !tell ViKiTo about java
[10:50] <ViKiTo> please
[10:50] <soundray> derrick81787, he can't get the res he wants.
[10:51] <BlueDevil> derrick81787: he has an ATI board
[10:51] <mrkoje> somebody got a problem with ubuntu and widescreen monitor?
[10:51] <derrick81787> oic
[10:51] <MWettendorff> root      2614  0.6  0.5   4172  1400 pts/0    S    22:50   0:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/mysqld_safe
[10:51] <MWettendorff> root      2650  0.0  0.5   4172  1412 pts/0    S    22:50   0:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/mysqld_safe
[10:51] <MWettendorff> mysql     2651  2.3  5.4 116344 13548 pts/0    Sl   22:50   0:00 /usr/sbin/mysqld --basedir=/usr --datadir=/var/lib/mysql --user=mysql --pid-file=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid --skip-locking --port=3306 --socket=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock
[10:51] <MWettendorff> root      2652  0.0  0.2   3196   572 pts/0    S    22:50   0:00 logger -p daemon.err -t mysqld_safe -i -t mysqld
[10:51] <MWettendorff> morten    2697  0.0  0.3   3280   752 pts/0    R+   22:51   0:00 grep mysql
[10:51] <MWettendorff> i think it is
[10:51] <Jowi> wow,  MWettendorff use pastebin will ya!
[10:51] <soundray> MWettendorff, don't do this please!
[10:51] <BlueDevil> geez...
[10:51] <ViKiTo> !tell ViKito amsn
[10:51] <soundray> MWettendorff, your mysql server is running now, and it will when you next boot your machine.
[10:52] <Jowi> !pastebin
[10:52] <ledh> what's the difference btwn apt-get and aptitude?
[10:52] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[10:52] <thegladiator> hi
[10:52] <MWettendorff> thx..
[10:52] <thegladiator> i am gonna install ubuntu now
[10:52] <ViKiTo> !tell ViKiTo amsn
[10:52] <Jowi> ledh: different front-ends for apt
[10:52] <thegladiator> is the installation easy ?
[10:52] <MWettendorff> can you then tell me how to chance the root pass?
[10:52] <eXistenZ> How can you guys break into FBI computers?
[10:52] <eXistenZ> I WANT TO BREAK INTO FBI
[10:52] <eXistenZ> c'mmon :D
[10:52] <BlueDevil> ledh: apt-get is command line aptitude is curses based
[10:52] <Necrocide> login as root, passwd?
[10:52] <thegladiator> i need to just put the installation cd ?
[10:52] <ledh> Jowi: lost you there
[10:52] <Jowi> eXistenZ: do you know Telnet? ;)
[10:52] <thegladiator> and boot ?
[10:52] <Currios> where is the xorg.conf in unbuntu?
[10:52] <mrkoje> eXistenZ: If you have to ask... your not smart enough
[10:53] <eXistenZ> Jowi, maybe ssh :p
[10:53] <soundray> eXistenZ, okay, let's do this step by step...
[10:53] <mrkoje> lol
[10:53] <eXistenZ> I guess it's a matter of pass and user
[10:53] <eXistenZ> rofl
[10:53] <BlueDevil> Currios: /etc/X11/xorg.com
[10:53] <Jowi> eXistenZ: you NEED telnet. and at least two monitors with xinerama. all hackers know that
[10:53] <thegladiator> someone wanna clarify ?
[10:53] <BlueDevil> Currios: s/com/sonf/
[10:53] <thegladiator> can i install by booting from install cd ?
[10:53] <BlueDevil> damn it!
[10:53] <eXistenZ> Jowi, LCD?
[10:53] <mrkoje> Jowi: telnet? Do you live in the 80's
[10:53] <Jowi> eXistenZ: bigger the better. 28" tv-screens work as well
[10:54] <ledh> take a look at this Jowi / BlueDevil...
[10:54] <ledh> Failed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[10:54] <ledh> Failed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[10:54] <ledh> Failed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[10:54] <ledh> Failed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[10:54] <MWettendorff> nec: the Mysql root pass
[10:54] <soundray> MWettendorff, don't use root in Ubuntu, it's not necessary. If you absolutely have to, set a password with sudo passwd.
[10:54] <ledh> Reading package lists... Done
[10:54] <thegladiator> can someone clarify ?
[10:54] <ledh> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net_dists_hoary-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:54] <ledh> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net_dists_hoary-backports_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:54] <ledh> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net_dists_hoary-backports_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:54] <eXistenZ> Jowi, I'll spy on bush talking on the msn :] 
[10:54] <Currios> BlueDevil, thx
[10:54] <ledh> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net_dists_hoary-backports_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:54] <BlueDevil> STOP!
[10:54] <mrkoje> Jowi:  I haven't heard of anyone using telnet for a long time... except for special occasions.
[10:54] <ledh> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[10:54] <Jowi> mrkoje: you NEED telnet to hack FBI. wow, talk about newbie ;)
[10:54] <ledh> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[10:54] <Millenniumgroup> here's my monitor (reading the silver labor behind my screen)
[10:54] <Millenniumgroup> E51781
[10:54] <Jowi> lol
[10:54] <thegladiator> hawking, hi
[10:54] <Jowi> Millenniumgroup: hang on, will check it out
[10:54] <soundray> Millenniumgroup, don't put it here, put it in Google.
[10:55] <BlueDevil> ledh: don't paste here
[10:55] <ledh> soooooooooooorry... :(
[10:55] <ubun-newbie> hi when i accept a file with xchat
[10:55] <hawking> hi thegladiator
[10:55] <ubun-newbie> where does the file go
[10:55] <thegladiator> how do i install ubuntu :)
[10:55] <mrkoje> Jowi: Since you so know so much about hacking the FbI, go ahead and tell us exactly why we would need telnet....
[10:55] <eXistenZ> I doubt any of you know how to hack a win32 puter :] 
[10:55] <BlueDevil> ledh: where did you get those repos from?
[10:55] <thegladiator> hawking, its me anandrulez
[10:55] <hawking> thegladiator r u anand? :)
[10:55] <ledh> sudo apt-get update
[10:55] <hawking> :)
[10:55] <thegladiator> hawking, exactly :)
[10:55] <timani>  hey question.switched to xchat-gnome, i type in a trigger to initiate a chat and no window appears jus switched over the old xchat and didnt have a problem b4 is there something i need to configure? anyone?
[10:55] <illustre> is there a way to retireve text from the chat session that already scrolled out of the window
[10:55] <trappist> ubun-newbie: wherever you've configured it to go.  I think the default is your home directory.
[10:55] <Millenniumgroup> google isn't giving me any good results :/
[10:56] <thegladiator> i am gonna install straightway
[10:56] <cvt> i hope bill gates chokes on a dollar bill
[10:56] <Agrajag> mrkoje: because every fbicpmuter runs telnet, of course! the root password is "bushsucks"
[10:56] <Jowi> mrkoje: if you have to ask, man you really need to read telnet for newbies
[10:56] <thegladiator> i need to boot from install cd ?
[10:56] <trappist> illustre: scroll up?
[10:56] <thegladiator> right ?
[10:56] <trappist> illustre: logs?
[10:56] <illustre> already scrolled up
[10:56] <Necrocide> Is Firefox made stable yet?
[10:56] <Necrocide> 1.5
[10:56] <Jowi> Millenniumgroup: that was not a monitor # you gave. see if you can find another number
[10:56] <thegladiator> firefox latest is out
[10:56] <illustre> i guess logs from like an hour or so
[10:56] <thegladiator> it 1.7
[10:57] <mrkoje> I know what telnet is, I think your a little krass to think that "every" fbi computer has telnet open
[10:57] <BlueDevil> Necrocide: yes
[10:57] <hawking> thegladiator : so you can get your questions answered here also on www.ubuntuforums.org I am also around
[10:57] <hawking> does anyone know if there is a DC client for Linux?
[10:57] <Agrajag> mrkoje: I think your sarcasmometer is broken
[10:57] <MWettendorff> thegladiator: it is 1.5
[10:57] <thegladiator> yep thanks
[10:57] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: what brand is it?
[10:57] <Millenniumgroup> Eclipse
[10:57] <Jowi> mrkoje: ok, how about yahoo-chat? most fbi-agents *must* use that, right?
[10:57] <BlueDevil> hawking: dcgui
[10:57] <thegladiator> 1.0.7 is the latest FIREFOX
[10:57] <cvt> will the i386 cd work on an amd 64?
[10:57] <eXistenZ> mrkoje, oh you know what telnet is?
[10:57] <Agrajag> Jowi: how else would they trade secret information?
[10:57] <mrkoje> Agrajag: My sarcawhat?
[10:57] <mrkoje> lol
[10:57] <Agrajag> cvt: yes
[10:57] <Jowi> Agrajag: exactly what i though
[10:58] <cvt> ty
[10:58] <BlueDevil> thegladiator: don't give false info
[10:58] <morzel> hawking: valknut
[10:58] <illustre> trappist, did u understandf my q?
[10:58] <MWettendorff> thegladiator: Wrong.. try look it up first..
[10:58] <trappist> illustre: I think so.  you should check your logs.
[10:58] <illustre> how can i do that
[10:58] <mrkoje> Jowi: What are you getting at? So you will try to expose a vulnerability in Yahoo chat?
[10:58] <Millenniumgroup> jowi, that's the rigth number alright, do a google search and you'll see the same number on driver support forums
[10:58] <thegladiator> MWettendorff, hi there 1.5 is newer than 1.0.7 ?
[10:58] <Agrajag> ahahahhahah
[10:58] <hawking> morzel : thx
[10:59] <ledh> What are the basic requierements to install Ubuntu?
[10:59] <thegladiator> i downloaded 1.0.7 yesterday iam on fc4 now
[10:59] <BlueDevil> LOL
[10:59] <trappist> illustre: if your irc client logs, and it probably does, find those logs and open them in a text editor or something.
[10:59] <ubun-newbie>  sudo dpkg -i  realplayer_10.0.6.776-20050916_i386.deb
[10:59] <ubun-newbie> Vljer tidigare ej valt paket realplayer.
[10:59] <ubun-newbie> (Lser databasen ... 69300 filer och kataloger installerade.)
[10:59] <ubun-newbie> Packar upp realplayer (frn realplayer_10.0.6.776-20050916_i386.deb) ...
[10:59] <ubun-newbie> dpkg: beroendeproblem frhindrar konfigurering av realplayer:
[10:59] <ubun-newbie>  realplayer beror p libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.4-1), men:
[10:59] <ubun-newbie>   Paket libstdc++5 r ej installerat.
[10:59] <ubun-newbie> dpkg: fel vid hantering av realplayer (--install):
[10:59] <korhalf> PASTEBIN.COM!
[10:59] <ubun-newbie>  beroendeproblem - lmnar okonfigurerad
[10:59] <korhalf> god forbid.
[10:59] <ubun-newbie> Fel uppstod vid hantering:
[10:59] <Agrajag> thegladiator: http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/
[10:59] <ubun-newbie>  realplayer
[10:59] <Millenniumgroup> ubun-newbie again there's A SWEDISH CHANNEL
[10:59] <BlueDevil> this is retarded
[10:59] <mrkoje> What the hell is wrong with this channel today?
[10:59] <korhalf> ubun-newbie, #ubuntu-de
[10:59] <ledh> :$
[10:59] <thegladiator> perhaps i am wrong
[10:59] <Millenniumgroup> #ubuntu.se
[10:59] <mrkoje> Have to start punting some people
[10:59] <ledh> x_x
[10:59] <ubun-newbie> what
[11:00] <MWettendorff> TheGladiator: yes it is.. notice that there is a 0 in 1.0.7 and there aint any in 1.5
[11:00] <Millenniumgroup> there is a swedish channel on freenode #ubuntu.se
[11:00] <ubun-newbie> how do i install  libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.4-1)
[11:00] <ledh> I guess no one knows about the errors i said... right? o.O
[11:00] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: he is there too
[11:00] <david_m_e> quick (i hope) question)... i just installed Ubuntu about a week ago, and noticed during the install that there appeared to be a c/c++ dev system included... however, the only thing i can find along those lines is Perl... is ansi c/c++ supported by Perl, i.e, the Perl language is a superset of c/c++?
[11:00] <Millenniumgroup> oh lol
[11:00] <thegladiator> yep so 1.5 is next to 1.0.7 ?
[11:00] <limaunion> hi, I'm trying to mount a second harddisk (ext2) but whenever I to write a file it says that I don't have the rights, what do i have to do ?
[11:00] <Determinist> this might seem a bit weird of a question, but isnt there some sort of defragmentation software available for linux?
[11:00] <soundray> Millenniumgroup, did you say you use Windows with your monitor?
[11:00] <Agrajag> david_m_e: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:00] <Agrajag> that will get you gcc
[11:00] <timani> ahhhhh so any xchat-gnome people
[11:00] <ubun-newbie> how do i install  libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.4-1)
[11:00] <thegladiator> david > perl is based on c u can say
[11:01] <BlueDevil> Determinist: it doesn't need it
[11:01] <Millenniumgroup> soundray, no I've used 1280x1024 on my windows xp install 2 weeks ago , I only got ubuntu on my hdd now
[11:01] <thegladiator> not sure about superset , yes superset in many ways
[11:01] <Agrajag> thegladiator: seriously, just stop
[11:01] <thegladiator> but u cant cmopile ur c code using perl so get gcc for that
[11:01] <trappist> david_m_e: perl is just a scripting language.  what are you looking for?  a compiler?
[11:01] <ubun-newbie> how do i install  libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.4-1)
[11:01] <Jowi> ledh: haven't used the hoary backports in a while. maybe the backports are down.
[11:01] <mrkoje> Jowi: Where did ya go? I want to know about your inflated abilities to hack fbi computers!
[11:01] <Determinist> BlueDevil, i cant imagine ext3 being that much better than the equivalent windows FS ... there has to be fragmentation
[11:01] <soundray> Millenniumgroup, do you remember what refresh rate you had there?
[11:01] <Kode> you don't really need defragmentation for ext, as it uses a more efficient way of handling your partition
[11:01] <mrkoje> lame
[11:01] <david_m_e> ok; thanks Agrajag, gladiator; next question: if i want to develop apps that run on unix/windows/mac, can Perl do that? is it a good choice for that?
[11:02] <Jowi> mrkoje: sorry, did some research.
[11:02] <omeg> http://omega.avalanchestudios.net/personal/dropbox/ubuntu_problem_1.jpg <-- the problem I was talking about earlier (garbage shows up at the bottom of the screen)
[11:02] <Agrajag> ubun-newbie: sudo apt-get install libstdc++5
[11:02] <thegladiator> very much  good choice
[11:02] <ledh> Jowi: i have no idea about those errors... I'm new at this OS, that's why i'm asking for help... what should I do about them?...
[11:02] <ubun-newbie> sudo apt-get install libstdc++5
[11:02] <ubun-newbie> Lser paketlistor... Frdig
[11:02] <ubun-newbie> Bygger beroendetrd... Frdig
[11:02] <ubun-newbie> Du kan mjligen rtta detta genom att kra "apt-get -f install":
[11:02] <ubun-newbie> Fljande paket har beroenden som inte kan tillfredsstllas:
[11:02] <BlueDevil> Determinist: i dont like people with little imagination
[11:02] <ubun-newbie>   libstdc++5: Beror: gcc-3.3-base (>= 1:3.3.6-8ubuntu1) men det kommer inte att installeras
[11:02] <Jowi> Millenniumgroup: is that all the info you can find on the back?
[11:02] <ubun-newbie> E: Otillfredsstllda beroenden. Frsk med "apt-get -f install" utan paket (eller ange en lsning).
[11:02] <Agrajag> david_m_e: you can install a perl interpreter on windows or mac os, yes
[11:02] <Agrajag> ubun-newbie: STOP THAT
[11:02] <Jowi> ubun-newbie: use pastebin please
[11:02] <ardchoille> This is one of the reasons I love gnome: http://img120.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1id.jpg
[11:02] <Agrajag> jeez
[11:02] <thegladiator> perl is a nice language ; depends upon the applicatio u wanna develeop
[11:02] <Jowi> !tell ubun-newbie about pastebin
[11:02] <BlueDevil> ubun-newbie: for f**k's sake STOP!!
[11:02] <Millenniumgroup> soundray, sorry I can't remmeber :/
[11:03] <Determinist> BlueDevil, i dont like people who give silly irrelevant answers
[11:03] <Agrajag> personally, I don't use perl for anything longer than 100 lines
[11:03] <illustre> trappist, i dont think xchat logs
[11:03] <BlueDevil> Determinist: then we're even
[11:03] <Determinist> BlueDevil, perhaps
[11:03] <ardchoille> illustre: sure it does
[11:03] <Millenniumgroup> Jowi, let me check again
[11:03] <ledh> -.-U
[11:03] <Jowi> ledh: do you need any packages from the backports that you know of?
[11:03] <trappist> illustre: it does.
[11:03] <Roey> ubun-newbie:  what language is this, nynorsk? danish? icelandic??
[11:03] <ledh> Jowi: beats me! x_x
[11:03] <Jowi> Roey: swedish
[11:03] <Roey> Jowi:  dah, ok :) off by one :)
[11:03] <Roey> thanks
[11:03] <illustre> trappist, mm i dont see the setting for it
[11:03] <ledh> Jowi: don't even know what they're for! o.
[11:04] <david_m_e> i work with a lot of special kids, and i need to be able to develop graphics-intensive apps that run on -ix/win/mac
[11:04] <Agrajag> david_m_e: graphics-intensive?
[11:04] <thegladiator> i have fc4 in my system ;
[11:04] <Jowi> ledh: so you probably dont. "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" comment out the lines with the backports. save and run "sudo apt-get update"
[11:04] <thegladiator> is it possible that i install ubuntu in fc4 partition ?
[11:04] <ardchoille> illustre: Settings-> Prefs, Chatting->Logging
[11:04] <david_m_e> autisitic kids love graphics and music
[11:04] <Agrajag> ok, so 3d stuff, 2d, or what?
[11:04] <ardchoille> illustre: top option
[11:04] <ledh> Jowi: thanks! n_n
[11:04] <Millenniumgroup> j0wi, hmm no that's all, I mean sure there's a lot more info, but the number I gave you is my model number
[11:04] <soundray> Determinist, if you don't believe that ext2 and ext3 avoid fragmentation, just read the source.
[11:05] <david_m_e> 3d
[11:05] <Agrajag> you might want to check out python for that kind of thing
[11:05] <Jowi> ledh: to comment out something put a # in front of the line
[11:05] <Fushi> Whats the package name to apt-get so that I can install things that need a compiler?
[11:05] <thegladiator> or better still during gui installation can i parition my fc4 partition and install ubuntu ?
[11:05] <soundray> Fushi, apt-get install build-essential ?
[11:05] <Agrajag> there's probably opengl libraries for python, I haven't used anything like that though
[11:05] <LoPMX> is there a skype package for ubuntu?
[11:05] <david_m_e> i think i noticed Python also included w/ Ubuntu... did i see that correctly?
[11:05] <Fushi> Thanks! :D
[11:05] <Agrajag> david_m_e: yeah, it should be installed already
[11:05] <BlueDevil> LoPMX: yes
[11:05] <ledh> Jowi: oh... thought i had to erase it... xDDD
[11:05] <illustre> trappist, thanks it was not e3nabled i just enabled it
[11:05] <Jowi> Millenniumgroup: usually, if you only have a partnumber you're good to go. there are always monitor specs for CRT monitors somewhere on the web.
[11:05] <thegladiator> python , perl exists , gcc doesnt i guess
[11:06] <Agrajag> python is a pretty easy language to learn, it was my first real programming language
[11:06] <Jowi> ledh: nevermind. you haven't made any fatal mistake
[11:06] <LoPMX> BlueDevil, hmm, can't see in apt
[11:06] <BlueDevil> ubotu tell LoPMX about repos
[11:06] <Millenniumgroup> jowi, you want the full serial number?
[11:06] <Jowi> Millenniumgroup: nope, serialnumbers doesn't help much. only part or model number
[11:07] <ledh> Jowi: can i chat in pvt for a sec... i need to paste it so you can tell me if i did it right
[11:07] <lightbright> hey hey
[11:07] <Millenniumgroup> Well my friend... the one I gave is the model name :/
[11:07] <soundray> Millenniumgroup, Jowi, there aren't any specs on the web for this one, I've checked...
[11:07] <Jowi> soundray: ouch, ok ok
[11:07] <Jowi> ledh: sure
[11:07] <david_m_e> thank you; there are a lot ostensibly nice, pretty fun graphics progs for Win on the net, but so many of them are either sneaky-ad-ware(Bonzi buddy) or so poorly behaved they make kids feel terrible, like it's his/her fault the computer crashed; so i am going to develop their favorites, such as a free nemo-like screen saver
[11:07] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: want to give those settings a try?
[11:08] <Determinist> soundray, when was the last time you read "the source" of anything just to be sure of it's features?
[11:08] <Millenniumgroup> ah what the hell, sure
[11:08] <Millenniumgroup> run by it again plz
[11:08] <Determinist> soundray, not trying to be annoying here, just wondering
[11:08] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: copy them this time
[11:08] <Millenniumgroup> yup
[11:08] <Agrajag> david_m_e: if you want free flashy screensavers, try http://www.reallyslick.com/
[11:08] <BlueDevil> Determinist: for someone who's not trying, you sure do succeed :)
[11:09] <Agrajag> all of those are included in ubuntu
[11:09] <soundray> Determinist, you were supposing that there must be fragmentation in ext2. There isn't. Final proof is in the source. ext2 avoids fragmentation by design.
[11:09] <david_m_e> i want fun games, what amounts to pretty pictures that aren't mal-ware
[11:09] <valberg> hmm.. my firefox is very weird... the toolbar is messy with large fonts and stuff... anyone know anything about this ?
[11:09] <Agrajag> david_m_e: there's quite of few of them already in ubuntu as well
[11:09] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: HorizSync	30-96 and VertRefresh	50-160
[11:09] <Agrajag> ppracer, a tron clone or five, various clones of other games
[11:10] <david_m_e> example: Niko, a cat program for keeping notes, is terribly behaved; just it running, nothing else, will lock up my wifes WinMe
[11:10] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: there's whitespace between the option and the value
[11:10] <Agrajag> well to be fair, pretty much anything will lock up WinME
[11:10] <lightbright> BlueDevil: you m,ust be joking!
[11:10] <Kris> hello, is it difficult to upgrade to breezy from hoary and will I lose anything in the process?
[11:10] <david_m_e> thank you for your suggestions;
[11:10] <Agrajag> Kris: yes, and no.
[11:10] <Technobabble> Kris, you shouldn't
[11:11] <Agrajag> er
[11:11] <basti> could anyone give me a tip for any application that can translate between languages?
[11:11] <Agrajag> No, and No.
[11:11] <BlueDevil> lightbright: about what? the values?
[11:11] <Kris> heh
[11:11] <Agrajag> it's easy and you lose nothing.
[11:11] <lightbright> BlueDevil: about your nick :P
[11:11] <Jowi> ledh: since you're not answering my privs... run "sudo apt-get update" to see if the errors dissappeared
[11:11] <BlueDevil> lightbright: lol
[11:11] <Millenniumgroup> Section "Monitor"
[11:11] <Millenniumgroup> 	Identifier	"Generic Monitor"
[11:11] <Millenniumgroup> 	Option		"DPMS"
[11:11] <Millenniumgroup> 	HorizSync	28-49
[11:11] <Millenniumgroup> 	VertRefresh	43-72
[11:11] <Millenniumgroup> that's where I change the info
[11:11] <Kris> I sense a but... there
[11:11] <BlueDevil> yes
[11:11] <ledh> Jowi: i did!!
[11:11] <ledh> 0.0
[11:11] <Agrajag> all you have to do is open up /etc/apt/sources.list, change all instances of hoary to breezy, and run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[11:11] <BlueDevil> lightbright: why? :)
[11:11] <Millenniumgroup> ok doing it now
[11:12] <darkranger> i just installed ubuntu , pretty good i might say :P
[11:12] <diego> COMO ES EL CANAL EN ESPAOL?
[11:12] <soundray> BlueDevil, Millenniumgroup, I'm running 1280x1024 with HorizSync 30-80 and VertRefresh 50-75. These values are a bit more conservative
[11:12] <Jowi> ledh: didn't see a thing. you registered with /msg nickserv?
[11:12] <Agrajag> !es
[11:12] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:12] <diego> #ubuntu_es
[11:12] <lightbright> BlueDevil: because the devil looks like you and I, a created angel, he is not some blue monster :)
[11:12] <Kris> what's the downside to upgrading to breezy?
[11:12] <lightbright> Kris: none
[11:12] <Agrajag> Kris: can't think of anything
[11:12] <Jowi> diego: /join #ubuntu-es
[11:12] <bipolar> does anyone know how to print out a dia diagram on a single page?
[11:12] <ledh> Jowi: what's that? x_x
[11:12] <soundray> Kris, it takes some time and bandwidth.
[11:12] <Kris> ok here we go then :)
[11:12] <david_m_e> Kris: you have more free time to 'take out the garbage', etc...
[11:13] <ledh> Jowi: i haven't registered in anything...
[11:13] <Kris> time and bandwidth I have in pleanty at the moment
[11:13] <ledh> Jowi: yaaaaaaay!!! No more errors!! Thanks!!! You rock! :P
[11:13] <Jowi> ledh: you can register your username "ledh" so that you can do more stuff... anyway, "sudo apt-get update"
[11:13] <adil_> me 2
[11:13] <ledh> Jowi: how do i register?
[11:14] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: you should also specify a modeline
[11:14] <nick1presta> guys, I have a root problem with my Unbuntu box...anyone to help?
[11:14] <BlueDevil> missed him :(
[11:14] <Jowi> ledh: /msg nickserv help
[11:14] <soundray> BlueDevil, it's gonna work without one, I'm sure.
[11:15] <wij> hoi
[11:15] <BlueDevil> soundray: yes, but it likely his monitor will be out of sync
[11:15] <soundray> nick1presta, you can't log in as root by desing in Ubuntu.
[11:15] <Kris> one quick question then about the breezy thing; my ubuntu box is my firewall / router, if I update it will it kick us off the net while updating? >.<
[11:15] <londonboi2k3> guys is this the correct format to mail myself from the CLI the output of ifconfig "ifconfig | mail someone@gmail.com
[11:15] <BlueDevil> soundray: those values are very broad
[11:15] <ledh> i really need to get a dummy guide for IRChats
[11:15] <ledh> -.-UUU
[11:15] <BlueDevil> soundray: that's why he should specify a modeline
[11:15] <soundray> BlueDevil, did he use yours or mine in the end?
[11:16] <BlueDevil> soundray: don't know
[11:16] <BlueDevil> soundray: he can try both
[11:16] <adil_> Too many video packets in the buffer: (4096 in 8262447 bytes)
[11:16] <Kris> I just don't want to have my wife screaming at me when her EQ suddenly goes linkdead if ubuntu asks me to restart before during or after the update, or worse yet, restarts without asking me
[11:16] <soundray> BlueDevil, we'll see, if his CRT goes up in smoke, he won't be logging in again any time soon.
[11:16] <wij> to be SUPERUSER type "sudo bash" in a shell terminal and type your login password   < for the dummy's
[11:16] <BlueDevil> soundray: no way that's gonna happen
[11:17] <soundray> wij, sudo bash is unsafe.
[11:17] <BlueDevil> soundray: it'll shutdown
[11:17] <nick1presta> Soundray: I know. That isn't my problem. I enabled root logins and such and went to sign in and it gave me an error about how it cannot connect to the XML file and such and it wouldn't log me in...
[11:17] <adil_> why do i keep getting on this error from gmplayer:
[11:17] <adil_> Too many video packets in the buffer: (4096 in 8262447 bytes)
[11:17] <wij> soundray :why unsafe / it's working well
[11:18] <soundray> nick1presta, your error description is a bit vague.
[11:18] <soundray> wij, use sudo -i, then you know you've got root's environment.
[11:18] <BlueDevil> soundray: Modeline "1280x1024" 151.83  1280 1360 1544 1888  1024 1024 1027 1072 is @75Hz and should work
[11:18] <Necrocide> When does Firefox 1.5 get enabled to download with Synaptic?
[11:18] <nick1presta> soundray, I know. It was early this morning and I forgot. Do you know any possible solution to an XML error at root login.
[11:19] <BlueDevil> Necrocide: when dapper is released :)
[11:19] <soundray> wij, with sudo bash you get a mixed environment from root and user.
[11:19] <wij> soundray, i'll try now.........
[11:19] <Necrocide> dapper?
[11:19] <BlueDevil> dapper drake
[11:19] <BlueDevil> breezy+1
[11:19] <Necrocide> :o
[11:19] <soundray> nick1presta, I don't even know a possible /cause/ for an xml related error on login.
[11:19] <nick1presta> Ah ok.
[11:19] <nick1presta> I will write down the error and google it tomorrow then
[11:20] <soundray> nick1presta, good idea, or come back here...
[11:20] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: so?
[11:20] <Millenniumgroup> I've tried both of ya settings, it didn't work guys :/
[11:20] <Millenniumgroup> sure it alters the reso, but not 1280x1024
[11:20] <wij> soundray " thanks"
[11:20] <nick1presta> It's my high school's computer which was given to me so it's a dual boot WinXP/Ubuntu but people could've messed with it while I was gone for the day...
[11:20] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: try my settings with this modeline "Modeline "1280x1024" 151.83  1280 1360 1544 1888  1024 1024 1027 1072"
[11:20] <grshpr> A question about terminals; how do I switch easy between, for instance: a centericq terminal-tab and a irssi-tab? (So that I can switch between different channels in irssi without switching over to the centericq-tab?)
[11:20] <hawking> sorry I was away did anyone answer my question about dc clients for linux?
[11:21] <hawking> and if yeas are any of them in repos?
[11:21] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: and specify 1280x1024 he first resolution for the depth you're using
[11:21] <Millenniumgroup> Modeline is already 1280x1024 (old setting I edited a while ago)
[11:21] <soundray> hawking, no idea, you know apt-cache search ?
[11:21] <Millenniumgroup> even tried to remove evry reso except 1280x1024 in the modline, no joy
[11:21] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: paste your xorg.conf
[11:21] <android_> hawking, dc++
[11:21] <Millenniumgroup> k
[11:22] <soundray> Millenniumgroup, not here though!
[11:22] <Millenniumgroup> lol nah
[11:22] <Millenniumgroup> on pastebin
[11:22] <BlueDevil> he knows :)
[11:22] <soundray> Millenniumgroup, thanks :)
[11:22] <Millenniumgroup> :D
[11:22] <tygore> I did a silly thing: relied on sudo, didn't create a root password, then touched the /etc/hosts file before /etc/hostname and now there is no sudo
[11:22] <tygore> is there any cure?
[11:22] <BlueDevil> tygore: what!?
[11:23] <tygore> unable to lookup ... via gethostbyname()
[11:23] <Millenniumgroup> Here guys >>>> http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/5525
[11:23] <chris86wm> hey guys, does anyone know of a program that can show the status of my online banking account from the desktop (like a gdesklet)?
[11:23] <soundray> Have you guys ever heard about a multi-tuner PCI card with DVB-S *and* DVB-T?
[11:23] <tygore> BlueDevil: this is what I get trying to use sudo
[11:24] <diubidone> hey all how do I install gtkorphan?
[11:24] <joshi> hello.. can anyone help on problem with wine? Everything detailed here:
[11:24] <joshi> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=100874
[11:24] <Millenniumgroup> argh.. xserver reseted my xorg.conf, anyways before I had 1280x1024 on the modelines
[11:24] <tygore> BlueDevil: but sudo should be reliable at _any_ situation not just whenever anything is ok
[11:25] <blue-frog> tygore, u have to reboot in recovery mode and change/finish what u wanted to do
[11:25] <wij> Today i kicked out Windows Xp and installed, Ubuntu,   now I can sleep at night.
[11:25] <Millenniumgroup> lol nice quote ^
[11:25] <ompaul> what does one do with apt or dpkg commands to check the authenticy of that which is installed?
[11:25] <soundray> wij, well done.
[11:25] <blue-frog> tygore, sudo works when /etc/hosts and hostname are in accordance...
[11:26] <zelevw> hi guys...when i start synaptic package manager i tells me that it cant stat a bunch of stuff...i deleted all of the #s...what can be going wrong?
[11:26] <tygore> blue-frog: yes but is that logical?
[11:26] <zandaa> hello all, I still can't get my HD to work <_<
[11:26] <blue-frog> tygore, next time if u want to change the name of your computer use the gui screen or sudo su first
[11:26] <soundray> zelevw, well you deleted all the #s -- that's what's gone wrong...
[11:27] <blue-frog> tygore, if u put diesel in a petrol car it's not working...
[11:27] <Jowi> zelevw: give a precise error (if you have a long list, post in in the pastebin (type; /msg ubotu pastebin for more info))
[11:27] <eriksti> anyone able to help me with /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf ?  What's "psk" for example? Been trying to bring my wireless up forever.. "dmesg | grep ipw" shows some good signs at least now
[11:27] <tygore> blue-frog: 1) I confess I didn't exactly know how to change my computer name.
[11:27] <eriksti> it's an ipw2200bg
[11:27] <grshpr> If I want to restart gnome, what do I do?
[11:27] <Jowi> eriksti: psk is a short for "passkey"
[11:28] <zelevw> soundray: where can i find a sources.list that will allow me to find and install libdvdcss2, xmms, etc?  i'm running ubuntu 5.10...thank you
[11:28] <tygore> blue-frog: but sudo could be better :)
[11:28] <grshpr> Without restarting the computer.
[11:28] <grshpr> :)
[11:28] <eriksti> Jowi: and if I have no idea what it is? :)
[11:28] <Agrajag> !tell zelevw about restrictedformats
[11:28] <wij> /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:28] <tygore> blue-frog: if I was using root I wouldn't be trapped ;)
[11:28] <Jowi> eriksti: do you need a passkey to connect to your router?
[11:28] <soundray> zelevw, perhaps deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ experimental main
[11:29] <Agrajag> zelevw: read the link ubotu sent you
[11:29] <eriksti> Jowi:  don't think so.. I'm at a univerity, and I think I'd hear about it if so
[11:29] <soundray> zelevw, add it to your existing one
[11:29] <eriksti> Jowi: I leave it blank, remove it or something?
[11:29] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: use the xorg.conf from there: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/d5526
[11:29] <blue-frog> tygore when if u want to walk straight put one foot in front of the other, what can i say...
[11:29] <Jowi> eriksti: no idea. have no wifi here. have you read the wireless wiki?
[11:29] <zelevw> thank you
[11:30] <wij> deb-src http://security.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted multiverse universe
[11:30] <eriksti> Jowi: I've read lots of stuff.. had this thing over a year without being able to connect lol
[11:30] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: and do it soon, coz i'm leaving
[11:30] <soundray> BlueDevil, wow, you're good.
[11:30] <blue-frog> tygore, hence sudo su
[11:30] <BlueDevil> huh?
[11:30] <Millenniumgroup> ok , copy the text and paste it into my xorg config right?
[11:30] <BlueDevil> you can download the file directly
[11:31] <soundray> BlueDevil, I've never had anyone write a xorg.conf for me :)
[11:31] <BlueDevil> no need to copy paste
[11:31] <tygore> blue-frog: sure, but things could be a little better at least. I call it my stupidity + sudo's trap. And also I prefer to be trapped, and learn from it but do not use the gui for this sort of thing. Anyways, thanks very much
[11:31] <BlueDevil> soundray: lol :)
[11:31] <soundray> BlueDevil, nice trick with the 'd', too.
[11:31] <blue-frog> tygore, /join #bluefrog i'll give you the path to follow
[11:31] <Millenniumgroup> Bluedevil, yes but im talking about my path, xorg/config, heres what im doing, loading gedit xorg/confi ,removing all the text , pasting the log from the file I downloaded
[11:31] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: stop
[11:32] <Millenniumgroup> ok?
[11:32] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: no
[11:32] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: you'll screw something up
[11:32] <Cybercool> hello
[11:32] <eriksti> Jowi: I got through this one, that's basically where I'm at right now: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623
[11:32] <Cybercool> is there somebody who can help me with printer paper settings???
[11:32] <Millenniumgroup> ok.. so you want me to use the modeline values and past it into my xorg/conf then?
[11:32] <soundray> BlueDevil, I'll see him through the rest if you want to leave.
[11:32] <eriksti> Jowi: getting the conf file done right is the last part of that howto
[11:32] <Jowi> eriksti: haha, just found the same one
[11:32] <Tmfc> Need some help with perl @INC (newbie).  Does perl have a config file that the executable loads?  Or do you have to compile in @INC to the executable?
[11:33] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: do this: "wget http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/d5526" as normal user
[11:33] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup:
[11:33] <Jowi> !wireless
[11:33] <ubotu> I heard wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[11:33] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak"
[11:34] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: "sudo cp d5526 /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[11:34] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: exactly like that
[11:34] <Cybercool> is there somebody who can help me with printer paper settings???
[11:34] <MWettendorff> What is the best IRC program for linux??
[11:34] <Cybercool> please!!
[11:34] <Agrajag> irssi
[11:34] <zandaa> MWettendorff, XChat is a good client
[11:35] <wij> x-chat 2.4.4
[11:35] <Millenniumgroup> oscar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx~$ sudo cp d5526 /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:35] <Millenniumgroup> cp: cannot stat `d5526': No such file or directory
[11:35] <eriksti> Jowi: I have Network controller: Intel Corp. PRO/Wireless 2200BG (rev 05)
[11:35] <marian> hello
[11:36] <Jowi> eriksti: yes, it is supported it seems. start here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[11:36] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: what did you do different?
[11:36] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: and don't say "nothing"
[11:36] <grshpr> Sorry for saying this twice, but if I want to restart gnome without restarting my computer, how do I do?
[11:36] <wij> I have an MSI wifi
[11:36] <eriksti> Jowi:  will do
[11:36] <Millenniumgroup> 1 wget http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/d5526  2nd sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak 3rd sudo cp d5526 /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:36] <Agrajag> grshpr: log out
[11:36] <navarone> grshpr: ctrl-alt-backspace
[11:36] <Agrajag> navarone: wtf
[11:36] <zandaa> darnit
[11:36] <dooglus> grshpr: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[11:36] <Agrajag> why not have him close things nicely?
[11:36] <eriksti> Jowi: thanks for the help, looks like I have some reading to do! :)
[11:36] <Cybercool> is there somebody who can help me with printer paper settings???
[11:37] <zandaa> ardchoille? could you help me?
[11:37] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: what was output from wget?
[11:37] <Millenniumgroup> it returned nothing >
[11:37] <navarone> Agrajag: he only mentioned not restarting computer...I assume he can close things himself
[11:37] <soundray> Cybercool, I'll try. What's the problem?
[11:37] <Jowi> eriksti: np, let me know if you succeed :)
[11:37] <Cybercool> soundray, i want to print a photo (setting 4x6)
[11:38] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: wtf!?
[11:38] <Cybercool> soundray: but when i set this size, i doesn't get good on the paper, it only prints at the end of the 4x6 paper
[11:38] <Cybercool> soundray, i don't know why!
[11:38] <dooglus> Millenniumgroup: for step 3, do "sudo cp post_5526.txt /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[11:38] <Millenniumgroup> yeah im new, but I did the command wget xxxx something and it returned me a >
[11:38] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: you mean when you ran wget it didn't output anything?
[11:38] <soundray> Cybercool, perhaps your placing the paper in the wrong corner?
[11:39] <dooglus> Millenniumgroup: if it said '>', that's cos you didn't have the quotes balanced or some such.
[11:39] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: without the "
[11:39] <Millenniumgroup> yes without the quotes
[11:39] <soundray> Cybercool, print a draft to an A4 sheet, so you know exactly where it will print.
[11:39] <Cybercool> soundray, but, how is that so, this is the good corner
[11:39] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: you had a " at the beginning
[11:39] <Millenniumgroup> argh ok.. I guess I did somethign wrong with wget
[11:39] <tygore> blue-frog: I rebooted into recovery mode but it asked for root password, which I don't have
[11:39] <Millenniumgroup> what should I do now?
[11:40] <Cybercool> soundray: but it prints also at the end of the page, when the photo paper is almost out of the printer
[11:40] <dooglus> Millenniumgroup: wget http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/d5526
[11:40] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: run the wget again without any quotes
[11:40] <dooglus> Millenniumgroup: with no quotes
[11:40] <soundray> Cybercool, which program do you use for printing?
[11:40] <Cybercool> soundray, standard gnome image viewer
[11:40] <dooglus> Millenniumgroup: you probably also want to strip all the control-M characters off that file before using it
[11:41] <Millenniumgroup> k it worked with wget
[11:41] <Millenniumgroup> dooglus, huh, wow im lost... control-m characters?
[11:41] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: now do the sudo cp stuff
[11:41] <soundray> Cybercool, it may be worth leaving the printer settings on standard A4, then open the image in The Gimp, and print from there.
[11:41] <trappist> Millenniumgroup: try dos2unix to do that
[11:42] <Cybercool> soundray, what are you suspecting?
[11:42] <Millenniumgroup> this one sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak or sudo cp d5526 /etc/X11/xorg.conf ???
[11:42] <soundray> Cybercool, Gimp allows you to place the image precisely.
[11:42] <dooglus> Millenniumgroup: it's in 'DOS' format for some reason.
[11:42] <zandaa> I'm gonna ditch Linux alltogether if this doesn't work soon <_<
[11:42] <soundray> Cybercool, I'm not suspecting anything. Just suggesting a workaround.
[11:42] <Cybercool> soundray, ok all have to try that
[11:42] <dooglus> Millenniumgroup: this will fix it: cat d5526 | tr -d \\015 > d5526.unix
[11:42] <Cybercool> soundray, but i'm not on the computer where de printer was connected to
[11:43] <caisse> caisse
[11:43] <Cybercool> soundray, if you have a moment, i'll go to the printer and try
[11:43] <Millenniumgroup> oscar@cccccccccc:~$ cat d5526 | tr -d \\015 > d5526.unix
[11:43] <Millenniumgroup> oscar@cccccccccc:~$
[11:43] <soundray> Cybercool, I'll be here for ~ 15 minutes.
[11:43] <dooglus> right.
[11:43] <Millenniumgroup> is that all?
[11:43] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: no
[11:43] <dooglus> Millenniumgroup: now, did you run the "sudo mv" to make a backup?
[11:43] <Cybercool> soundray, ok
[11:43] <tygore> do I need the root password for the recovery mode?
[11:43] <Millenniumgroup> Devil so my next step will be sudo mv right?
[11:43] <soundray> tygore, no.
[11:43] <dooglus> Millenniumgroup: if you didn't already do the mv, do it now.
[11:44] <dooglus> Millenniumgroup: if you did it already, no need to do it again
[11:44] <tygore> but it asks me for it
[11:44] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: sudo cp d5526.unix /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:44] <BlueDevil> dooglus: he did it
[11:44] <dooglus> Millenniumgroup: then the 'cp' should be... what BlueDevil just said
[11:44] <Cybercool> soundray, i'm at the printer now, you say print an a4 with the 4x6 setting in gimp?
[11:44] <Millenniumgroup> oscar@ccccccccc:~$ sudo cp d5526.unix /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:44] <Millenniumgroup> oscar@ccccccccc:~$
[11:44] <Millenniumgroup> Right?
[11:44] <soundray> tygore, did you set it?
[11:44] <tygore> soundray: I got into a prompt asking for root password or Ctrl+D
[11:45] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: ok, now restart X
[11:45] <Hobbsee> tygore: this is when booting?
[11:45] <Millenniumgroup> k
[11:45] <dooglus> BlueDevil: I know he tried to do it, but I think he might have been looking at a '>' prompt when he did it...
[11:45] <dooglus> BlueDevil: oh well - too late now...
[11:45] <soundray> Cybercool, no, use the A4 setting, size the image appropriately in the print dialog and place it in the box according to how you slot in your paper.
[11:45] <tygore> soundray: not sure. if yes means there is not other cure? ;)
[11:45] <Hobbsee> tygore: why are you booting into recovery mode?  did the normal mode for that kernel go awol?
[11:45] <BlueDevil> dooglus: no harm done... he can get it back from pastebin
[11:45] <orkin> ok, help. It give me my modem registration ID and says I need to go to linuxant to get a License key then prompts me to entert license key(FREE) where do I go on this website to get this
[11:45] <orkin> ?
[11:46] <soundray> Cybercool, do a draft print to A4 to be sure.
[11:46] <soundray> tygore, you can still fix it with a bootable CD, e.g. Ubuntu Live.
[11:46] <Cybercool> soundray, draft print?
[11:46] <soundray> Cybercool, test print to cheap A4 paper.
[11:47] <soundray> Cybercool, so you know where to place the image in the print dialog.
[11:47] <Cybercool> but do i have to print normal size, or 4x6 size?
[11:47] <wij> ?
[11:47] <soundray> Cybercool, leave the printer settings on normal size, but resize the *image* to 4x6.
[11:47] <hi-fo-web> hey i need help on something
[11:47] <soundray> Cybercool, you can do that in the print dialogue.
[11:48] <Cybercool> yes, i see
[11:48] <BlueDevil> what's taking him so long? :)
[11:48] <hi-fo-web> does any one know a good site to get winavi video converter 7.1 serial numbers ?????
[11:48] <Cybercool> soundray, i have done it, now ill have to print and see if it comes in the beginning of the page
[11:48] <tygore> soundray: is there a small bootable cd? (in cdimage.ubuntu....)
[11:48] <BlueDevil> hi-fo-web: does this look as a warez channel? :)
[11:48] <Technobabble> hi-fo-web, anyone with half a brain knows this isn't the place for that shit
[11:49] <soundray> tygore, no, but you can use DSL Linux if you need a small download.
[11:49] <Nexinarus> someone kick hi-fo-web for that stupid comment :p
[11:49] <hi-fo-web> well hell i didnt know
[11:49] <hi-fo-web> im new
[11:49] <hi-fo-web> to linux
[11:49] <tygore> soundray: thanks :)
[11:49] <hi-fo-web> i have never uesd it
[11:49] <Technobabble> maybe, but that isn't even a linux question
[11:49] <BlueDevil> hi-fo-web: what's winavi got to do with linux?
[11:49] <hi-fo-web> well i didnt know any where eles to go gha
[11:49] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: ?
[11:49] <hi-fo-web> gah
[11:49] <Cybercool> soundray, it's not doing much at all
[11:50] <Nexinarus> thats like sleeping with your wifes sister and saying, shit i didnt know im new to linux! :p
[11:50] <hi-fo-web> i thought yall might could help
[11:50] <BlueDevil> :))
[11:50] <Millenniumgroup> it worked, but the monitor gave me a red warning screen, and when I tried 1280x1024 the reso lasted for about 5 seconds before the screen turned off it self
[11:50] <soundray> Cybercool, you know that you have to set up your printer in the Gimp print dialog?
[11:50] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: what refresh rate do you use when in windows?
[11:50] <Millenniumgroup> now im back with 60@ and 1024x768 (I had to edit the xorg) in my virtual terminal - orgin stats
[11:50] <navarone> Nexinarus: if your wife's siter is named linux it would kinda make sense tho...<s>
[11:50] <Millenniumgroup> Bluedevil... I really can't remember... :/
[11:50] <ArkGullwing> Hmm, I'm back again, I tried running the Live boot disk thing and i got bad display once it booted... any ideas why?
[11:51] <hi-fo-web> i was refering to this chat stuff
[11:51] <Cybercool> soundray, what do i have to setup?
[11:51] <hi-fo-web> i dont know anything about it
[11:51] <londonboi2k3> hi guys, just a quick one, how do I configure the login manager, IE to install another theme?
[11:51] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: change the modeline in the xorg.conf file with this one: Modeline "1280x1024" 109.62  1280 1336 1472 1720  1024 1024 1026 1062
[11:51] <Cybercool> soundray, i didn't know, how to setup?
[11:51] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: save the file, and then restart X
[11:51] <soundray> Cybercool, go through the dialog from top to bottom, put in settings that make sense to you.
[11:51] <FatDarel> hey guys
[11:51] <navarone> ArkGullwing: maybe bad driver but that can probably be fixed after install. vidcard troubles are pretty common
[11:52] <Millenniumgroup> k
[11:52] <FatDarel> i need some help i am looking for the 2.6.12-10
[11:52] <ArkGullwing> well
[11:52] <ArkGullwing> i cant do anything if i couldnt see =P
[11:52] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: you didn't erase the xorg.conf file i gave you, did you?
[11:52] <FatDarel> i need some help i am looking for the 2.6.12-10  linux kernel headers for ubuntu ???
[11:52] <londonboi2k3> Anyone?
[11:52] <Millenniumgroup> devil, nah it's still here on my hdd
[11:52] <ArkGullwing> it was a bunch of virtical lines made my eyes hurt heheh
[11:52] <hi-fo-web> alright how do i get to the other chanales
[11:52] <kyncani> FatDarel: Why on earth are you looking for that specific kernel keaders version ?
[11:52] <BlueDevil> FatDarel: you can install them via synaptic/apt/aptitude
[11:52] <Cybercool> soundray, do i have to select a pdd driver? because the printer is not listed
[11:52] <navarone> ArkGullwing: what hardware you using?
[11:52] <garlix> Greetings. I am close to tearing my hair :-( I've got ubuntu-breezy running on a Compaq Presario latop with an ATI-graphicscard (That I believe is identified to being a ATI Radeon Mobile 9000)... It has wroked fine - until I've tried to run Cedega. I fail the Video-tests in cedega. What I've tried to do is installing ATI's fglrx without much success :-( Anyone tried this and could give me some clues as how to do this?
[11:53] <Millenniumgroup> Devil, you want me to copy Modeline "1280x1024" 109.62  1280 1336 1472 1720  1024 1024 1026 1062 and paste it directly how it looks like?
[11:53] <BlueDevil> kyncani: it's the latest ubuntu kernel
[11:53] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: yes, in the xorg.conf file i gave you
[11:53] <londonboi2k3> hi there, does anyone know how to change the theme for the loging manager?
[11:53] <FatDarel> BlueDevil, not working
[11:53] <Millenniumgroup> here's how my current modeline looks like odes		"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[11:53] <kyncani> BlueDevil: and so that's why he _needs_ it ;)
[11:53] <danny> Hello everyone
[11:53] <FatDarel> kyncani, because that is my kernel that's why
[11:53] <danny> How is everyone?
[11:53] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: not in another one
[11:53] <walter> hi
[11:53] <ArkGullwing> Navarone: NVidia GEForce FX 5700LE
[11:53] <blue-frog> tygore, if it's asking for a root passwd it means u set one up
[11:53] <danny> Walter where do you live?
[11:54] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: man, you're giving me a headache
[11:54] <FatDarel> BlueDevil, cannot seem to find it
[11:54] <Millenniumgroup> lol sorry bud :/
[11:54] <soundray> Cybercool, what driver have you set up outside of Gimp>
[11:54] <soundray> ?
[11:54] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: what you pasted is not a modeline!!!
[11:54] <walter> i live in chile
[11:54] <danny> oh
[11:54] <Cybercool> soundray, i installed a driver true a installation script i got from a website
[11:54] <danny> Nvm then
[11:54] <kyncani> FatDarel: I think kernel headers should be the same that the ones the _libc_ was compiled with. Not the same as your kernel version
[11:54] <FatDarel> BlueDevil, I don't think the ubuntu apt repository has it as of now
[11:54] <Cybercool> soundray, it for a canon 1500
[11:54] <londonboi2k3> hi there, does anyone know how to change the theme for the loging manager?
[11:54] <danny> My brother knows a walter....
[11:54] <walter> and you?
[11:54] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: how did you revert to the old resolution?
[11:54] <Cybercool> soundray, i have no pdd file
[11:54] <BlueDevil> FatDarel: it has it
[11:54] <Cybercool> soundray, or is it putted somewhere, so i can select it
[11:55] <Millenniumgroup> Blue, running dkpg xserver
[11:55] <FatDarel> BlueDevil, what is it ?
[11:55] <FatDarel> BlueDevil, what sources.list items do you have
[11:55] <walter> danny, where do you live?
[11:55] <danny> Michigan
[11:55] <efeiling> Hello I have a problem with my system reboot whenever I try to start a game.
[11:55] <walter> ufff
[11:55] <efeiling> I have the 64-bit verison of Ubnutu 5.10
[11:55] <FatDarel> me2
[11:56] <ArkGullwing> still with me Navarone?
[11:56] <danny> Fat you're from Michigan?
[11:56] <efeiling> NForce 4 mother board?
[11:56] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: do you still have the d5526.unix file?
[11:56] <navarone> Any one using irssi? I am wondering if away messages default to channel. I hear it can eba  no-no on some servers
[11:56] <Cybercool> soundray, i have found the ppd file
[11:56] <Cybercool> soundray, i try to print now
[11:56] <soundray> Cybercool, okay...
[11:56] <walter> yes, but for internet, jajaj
[11:56] <ArkGullwing> Navarone: NVidia GEForce FX 5700LE
[11:56] <Millenniumgroup> I got 1 file on my (the one I got from pastebin) called post_5526.txt
[11:56] <navarone> ArkGullwing: I dunno what to tell you bud
[11:57] <ArkGullwing> hmm
[11:57] <danny> Hello
[11:57] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: where did the d5526.unix file go?
[11:57] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: did you remove it?
[11:57] <Cybercool> soundray, it doesn't print
[11:58] <navarone> ArkGullwing: too amny variables for me to know offhand...vidcard was guess but kinda unappetizing if no displaya t all
[11:58] <ArkGullwing> ALL: I'm trying to try out this OS and when i run the live boot disk, when it gets to the part where it plays the start up music and i guess there should be a desktop, the video is bad.. verticle lines that make my eyes hurt.. im using NVidia GEForce FX 5700LE
[11:58] <Cybercool> soundray, when i load the ppd file, do i have to select a printer, it's now on postscript
[11:58] <ArkGullwing> *nod nod*
[11:58] <Cybercool> soundray printer model is on postscript
[11:58] <navarone> ArkGullwing: can you log in at all?
[11:58] <Millenniumgroup> Devil, no I mean not manually, I did all the commands you asked.. so It should have been moved/copied.. ok let's do this another day.. Im tired :/ and your on your way out I pressume?
[11:58] <zandaa> !tell zandaa about ntfs
[11:59] <orkin>  wil losmebody help me wityh this modem driver, the deb went fine and now it's asking me to enter a free modem license key
[11:59] <ArkGullwing> well, it boots, and it gets to where its loading everything, and then it gets to that crappy video and i hear music, and i can see movement when i move the mouse around
[11:59] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: i am
[11:59] <Cybercool> soundray, ??
[11:59] <soundray> Cybercool, is your printer listed under Printer Name in the Gimp printing dialog?
[11:59] <orkin> It gives me a registration id where to I go on the linuxant website to enter my registration id
[11:59] <zandaa> !tell zandaa about ntfs
[11:59] <Cybercool> soundray, no
[11:59] <Millenniumgroup> ok.. I want to thank you for trying to help me BlueDevil, Im new and I also know n00bs will cause ya a split headache, tx again m8 :)
[11:59] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: no prob
[12:00] <ubun-newbie> how do i install adsl , sudo adsl-setup right
[12:00] <Millenniumgroup> and thank you jowi,soundray and the one's I forgot to mention by name!
[12:00] <Cybercool> soundray, i have loaded the ppd file, al settings for paper anything is for the printere setted up, but i cannot select printer model