=== Lord_Athur [n=Lord@pc-30-37-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === Lord_Athur [n=Lord@pc-30-37-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === \sh_away is now known as \sh === ealden [n=ealden@219.90.94.70] has joined #edubuntu === Lord_Athur [n=Lord@pc-30-37-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === pitux_away is now known as pitux === Lord_Athur [n=Lord@pc-30-37-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === \sh is now known as \sh_away === Nytryx [n=Nytryx@nc-71-52-152-29.dhcp.sprint-hsd.net] has joined #edubuntu [01:38] question im installing edubuntu-desktop on my sons iibook is there anything i need to do other than "apt-get install edubuntu-desktop"? [01:45] nm [01:51] how do i enable auto login? [01:51] anyone? === |ed| [n=nytryx@nc-71-52-152-29.dhcp.sprint-hsd.net] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has joined #edubuntu === Lord_Athur [n=Lord@pc-30-37-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === paolob [n=donpaolo@tdev159-227.codetel.net.do] has joined #edubuntu === Lord_Athur [n=Lord@pc-30-37-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:27] Where do I submit a edubuntu bug? === Lord_Athur [n=Lord@pc-30-37-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:31] Where do I submit a edubuntu bug? === paolob [n=donpaolo@tdev159-227.codetel.net.do] has left #edubuntu ["ci] [03:46] how can I send a folder of 570mb from my pc (with edubuntu) to one with windows of a fast way? [04:31] Nytryx: ping [04:31] Nytryx: are still there? [04:31] what? [04:31] yeah === mhz_away just got back [04:31] whats up === mhz_away is now known as mhz [04:31] Nytryx: you had some questions? [04:32] hey edubuntu has a kid programing thing to teach kids how to program man i wish that was around when i was a kid [04:32] hehehe, me too! [04:32] nope not any more if figured it all out thanks though [04:32] okis. [04:32] is the ibook running ok? [04:33] Nytryx: could you enable 'autologin'? [04:34] oh i still need to enable auto loging and work out a few more kinks [04:34] like for example it freezes after you close the lcd and reopen it [04:35] and the autologin in thing and ummm flash for ppc i have something i need to complie but i dont have the engines for it all yet ill fix that later [04:35] but the auto login thing i would like help on still [04:38] mhz? === mhz sorry, I was reading emails :D [04:39] oh sorry [04:39] how do i enable auto ligin? [04:39] ok... what is more important to you? === mhz guesses that it [04:40] the freezing part is second on the list everytime he closes the thing it freezes [04:40] ok, if i remember correctly, in GNOME you have at the menu bar, on the right most side [04:40] but thus far edubuntu is awsome i wish i had had something like this when i was his age [04:40] something like System Preferences? === mhz does notuse GNOME [04:40] left side systems [04:41] you can cmd it to me im not a total newb [04:41] oooh, cool! [04:41] hehe [04:41] then, it is called GDM setup [04:41] gdm-setup [04:41] so sudo gdm-setup? [04:42] sorry [04:42] gdmsetup [04:42] hmmmm, probably [04:42] sudo gdmsetup [04:42] yeah you were about to get a command not found hehe [04:42] hehehe [04:43] hang on im going to switch users the sudo thing is being a pain [04:43] indeed [04:43] have you enabled root access? [04:43] but i got the audio to work [04:43] cool [04:43] i installed this system as kubuntu at first so yeah [04:44] actually, I use edubuntu LTSP and applications but from WindowMaker, so you can imagine this 'helping you' may have some mistakes [04:44] :) [04:45] its ok but it seems that i did not install a root or atleast i cant remeber the password...oh well to the su console i go [04:45] anyways, GDM (if you get to run it) has an option about users loggin in [04:45] ok [04:45] for sec. reasons auto login is disabled === konfuzed [n=KonfuzeD@H129.C72.B0.tor.eicat.ca] has joined #edubuntu === mhz can't run GDM from wmaker [04:47] is it sudo -u root [04:47] ? [04:48] and error "could not access GDM configuration file" [04:52] hmm, I got same thing. Ok, gimme a second and I'll start GNOME === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:57] re [04:57] Nytryx: ok === mhz is using GNOMe [04:57] Nytryx: Menu bar -> System -> Login Manager [04:57] ok hang on [04:58] if you are a sudo user, you can run it [04:58] using your passwrod [04:58] password [04:58] ok menubar>system>no login manager [04:58] menubar>prefrences? administrator? [04:59] At the GDM interface, right on the first tab, 'General', Second Section should be 'Automatic Login' [04:59] oh, yes [04:59] sorry [04:59] if menubar>system>administrator> login screen setup? users and groups? [04:59] General Tab [05:00] under administrator? [05:00] w8 [05:00] hehe [05:00] system -> administration -> Login scree [05:00] n [05:00] does that work? [05:02] nope its there but it does'nt bring up anything [05:02] hmmmmm [05:02] what's the name of the user you are using? [05:03] is this user the one you used to install? [05:03] nytryx [05:03] umm i think so hummm [05:04] but when i log out and try to login as root with the password i could have sworn i used it gives me login failed [05:04] because unless you have changed some settings, that user is the only one with SUDO privileges [05:04] root can't login in GUI mode [05:04] AND root is disabled [05:04] unless you have enabled it [05:05] Nytryx: ? [05:05] ok [05:05] so then i install as Nytryx [05:05] ok [05:05] are you nytrix now? [05:05] even still when i sudo with nytryx's passwd ig get login failure [05:06] hmmmm [05:06] very wired [05:06] uh yeha hehe [05:06] ok, so you are saying that nobody can admin that box? [05:06] no i can with nytryx [05:06] but [05:07] i cant get gdmsetup to run nor the login screen setup [05:07] ok, lets try another route... [05:07] heres what i get when i sus with nytryx's password [05:07] mind you its the same as the login which works fine [05:07] Menu -> Applications -> Debian -> Applications -> [05:08] su: authentication failure sorry [05:08] Menu -> Applications -> Debian -> Applications -> System -> GDM Setup [05:08] umm where are you [05:08] Menu bar (the ubuntu logo) [05:08] applicationg [05:09] *applications [05:09] ok [05:09] theres debian is'nt in there === mhz has his GNOME in spanish :D [05:09] ooops [05:09] and Applications -> System ? [05:10] system tools [05:10] we should see GDM Setup somewhere [05:10] ok. let me try another thing here, w8 [05:11] ok, it worked [05:11] Nytryx: tell me, from a terminal, [05:11] w8 [05:12] ok [05:12] terminal = terminal GUI window ? right? [05:12] yeah [05:12] ok, [05:12] we're talking same language then :) [05:12] so were going terminal now? [05:12] yup [05:12] hang on im going to change to kde [05:12] nononono [05:12] Nytryx: nope [05:12] why? [05:13] because I want to see exactly what you see [05:13] ok were working in the serminal no? [05:13] *terminal [05:13] yup, the gnome terminal [05:13] my user is mhz, and my box is 2175 [05:13] ok [05:14] so I see... mhz@b2175:~ $ [05:14] terminal open [05:14] nytryx@ibook:~$ [05:14] and you should see nytryx@.....:~$ [05:14] yup [05:14] ok [05:14] hz@b2175:~ $ sudo gdmsetup [05:15] it asks me for a password [05:15] the mhz password [05:15] not the root [05:15] Nytryx: does it work for you? [05:16] yeah but i get could not access GDM config file [05:17] very weired because you should get to see GDM if nytryx is the user you chose when installing [05:17] nope [05:17] nope? [05:17] not what i see [05:17] ok [05:18] is root enabled? [05:18] w8 [05:18] i dont think so [05:18] can you do this? [05:18] do what? [05:18] just type [05:18] groups [05:18] and press enter :) [05:19] is nytryx part of the admin group? [05:19] it lists [05:20] nytryx adm cdrom floppy audio video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin [05:20] hmmmm [05:20] more weired [05:20] :) [05:20] AFAIK, all users in admin group are part of the SUDO [05:20] ok, [05:21] let's enable root, if yo like [05:21] ok bring it on hehe [05:21] in the terminal [05:21] $ sudo passwd [05:21] it will ask for nytryx password and then will ask you for root's [05:22] enter new unix password [05:22] yup [05:22] BE WARE you are enabling root [05:22] did'nt ask for root it just said enter new unix password [05:22] yup, that too [05:23] (sudo passwords linger for a couple of minutes, to avoid retyping all the time) [05:23] ready? [05:23] yup [05:23] ok, now [05:23] $ su - [05:23] password [05:24] does it log you as root? [05:24] the one i just set [05:24] yup [05:24] yup [05:24] cool! [05:24] now, [05:24] $ rm -rf / [05:24] NOOOOOOOOOOO [05:24] just kidding you! [05:24] Nytryx: dont! [05:24] glad you said that === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:24] heeheh [05:25] you almost had me reemove the root dir hehe [05:25] heheheh [05:25] I couldnt help the temptaion [05:25] told you im not a complete noob hehe [05:25] sorry [05:25] heheh [05:25] I needed to check [05:25] otherwise ubuntu people would kill me [05:25] :D [05:25] ok, so now [05:26] $ gdmsetup [05:26] duh! [05:26] (gdmsetup:11460): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: [05:26] see? [05:26] yup [05:26] root can't run GUI === mhz thinking === mhz remembers another reason sudo is important in ubuntu [05:28] Nytryx: $ ps -ax | grep -i gdm [05:28] is gdm running? [05:29] warning bad syntax [05:29] ? [05:30] Nytryx: $ ps ax | grep -i gdm [05:30] ps -ax | grep -i gdm [05:30] ok [05:30] no 1st '-' [05:30] 8231 pts/0 R+ 0:00 grep -i gdm [05:30] no more coincidences? [05:31] huh? [05:31] I mean, that is the only line in the output? [05:31] yup [05:31] duh! [05:31] ok [05:31] now we know! [05:32] are you using KDE login manager? [05:32] yup [05:32] LOL!! [05:32] need to apt get something huh? === mhz slaps Nytryx :D just kidding === Nytryx kicks himself GDM Gnome desktop manager? [05:33] yup! [05:33] hehehe [05:33] LOl [05:33] damn! [05:33] ok so apt-get install GDM? [05:33] nope [05:33] no need [05:33] I guess KDM has same options [05:34] let me start KDE then [05:34] you too? [05:34] Nytryx: ? [05:34] i can but i was going to go ahead and install GDM [05:34] why? [05:34] but i guess that can wait [05:35] so, we meet at KDE ? [05:35] ok hehe === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:38] your going to scratch you head on this one [05:38] according to synaptic GDM is installed [05:38] re [05:38] Nytryx: -5ng [05:38] hehehe [05:38] indeed [05:38] hahahahha [05:38] -5ng? [05:39] yup, but if KDM is default login manger... it may not work [05:39] sorry, I had enabled NumLock [05:39] heh [05:39] ok [05:39] and the reason it was'nt working is because the desktop-base was'nt installed [05:40] hmm, good point [05:40] now, let's try to use KDM [05:40] *light bulb* hehe [05:40] bring it on hehe [05:42] ok, Menu button (KDE logo) [05:42] there [05:42] Menu button -> SystemSettings [05:42] then, Login Manager [05:42] just flow to it i can keep up hehe [05:42] okis [05:42] i have login screen setup === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@220.224.37.75] has joined #edubuntu [05:43] once presented with KDM, go to the last right most tab [05:43] it does'nt open anything === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #edubuntu [05:44] hmm, me neither [05:44] Nytryx: but do you get to the KDM window at least? [05:44] nope [05:45] let me get it, you do KDE logo -> SystemSettings nd when double click on Login Manager, nothing happens? no window? [05:46] yup [05:46] wow! [05:46] what? === mhz thinking === Nytryx confuzzled === Nytryx alone === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:53] wb [05:53] Nytryx: sorry [05:53] I was testing something [05:53] unsuccessfully as you noticed :) [05:54] Nytryx: i have no clue why you don't see KDM window [05:54] nor GDM one [05:54] in of those, I saw the option to tick 'Enable Autologin' [05:54] in both of them, I saw the option to tick 'Enable Autologin' [05:55] i remeber it too its on my suse laptop [05:55] in GDM is in the tab named 'General' and in KDM is in the last right most tab [05:55] but now that GDM-base is installed it shoud have the gnome loging screen no? [05:55] I guess [05:56] and I hope! [05:56] :D [05:56] w8 [05:56] do i need to restart to get that or sould it do it when i logout? [05:56] Nytryx: when you login using KDM, do you see a 'System' button or 'config' button? [05:56] yeah [05:57] ok, could you try that and see if you get to set it? [05:57] session menu and login buttons [05:57] remeber that now you have 2 passwords [05:57] maye it will ask you for your root [05:57] i dont know. [05:57] but it should get you where we want to go [05:58] please try that [05:58] ok i cant change the login its still kubuntu [05:58] I'll wait here till you inform me [05:58] :) [05:58] of course, you'll have to logout [05:58] yup [05:59] i already have [05:59] ohh, you have to boxes! [05:59] 6 to be exact [05:59] hehehehe [05:59] good to know [06:00] Nytryx: ok, what options do you have in KDM then? [06:00] Kubuntu Login manager is also KDM [06:00] i did a complete reboot to see if it would help [06:00] nha, dont think so [06:01] but who know? [06:01] with you.. all may be possible [06:01] :D [06:01] hehe [06:01] i like edubuntu i wish i had had something like that when i was my sons age [06:01] thats awsome! [06:01] mee too [06:02] and no kuduntu login still hehe [06:02] hehehe [06:02] it's all a matter of constructivism and collaborating [06:02] ? what you mean? [06:03] and the kool horn thing at the staruo thats great [06:03] i still got the kubuntu login manager [06:04] but i got a new error msg when running gdmsetup [06:05] xlib: connection to "0.0" refused by peer === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@220.224.18.86] has joined #edubuntu [06:05] xlib: no protocol specified [06:05] and that cannot open display warning [06:05] sighs [06:05] but this time its gdmsetup:5000 [06:06] oh well he'll just have to get used to typing in his password [06:07] hmmmm [06:07] tell you what [06:07] what? [06:07] any chances you can come back and talk to ogra? [06:07] ogra = Mr. Edubuntu [06:07] is there a way to change the su account to the user account and the user account to the su acoount? [06:07] ?? [06:07] i can im not going anywhere [06:08] hehe [06:08] is there a way to change the su account to the user account and the user account to the su acoount? [06:08] chineese! [06:09] Nytryx: also, you could try asking about KDM issues in #kubuntu [06:09] k [06:10] Nytryx: i need to sleep [06:10] night [06:10] or my wife will kick my chilean butt [06:10] Nytryx: I hope to see you around and you can solve this issue [06:11] bye === jsgotangco [n=jerome@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #edubuntu === aya [n=yann@cav13-3-82-234-224-217.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === irvin [n=irvin@202.138.170.22] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === JaneW [n=JaneW@dsl-146-129-50.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [08:54] hi JaneW Ms. Weideman [08:54] hi jsgotangco :) [08:55] JaneW: how's things? [08:55] morning === Unki [n=rainer@236-203-116-85.dsl.manitu.net] has joined #edubuntu [08:56] hey juliux [08:56] someone an idea why i cannt log in at the clients? /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts is ok [08:57] jsgotangco: not too bad and you? [08:57] jsgotangco: tired though [08:58] helllo all :-) [08:58] JaneW: pretty good i'm just uploading pics at the moment [08:59] jsgotangco: cool, I saw you Seoul ones, looked awesome [08:59] JaneW: Seoul is awesome, a few days after I spoke, the wiki has been full of KoreanTeam activity [08:59] my edubuntu cake pic has more than 1350 views! [09:00] jsgotangco: excellent, well done :) [09:00] JaneW: yeah i'm pretty happy of what happened myself [09:00] :D [09:01] i'm scheduling the edubuntu presentation next week [09:01] i have to it here at home first [09:01] s/it/test [09:01] :) [09:02] excellent [09:02] JaneW: it was an experience speaking to en entirely different audience (i even got a translator) [09:02] i hope i could get pictures [09:02] jsgotangco: do most ppl speak english there? [09:02] JaneW: barely [09:03] i.e. was there any communication problem? [09:03] JaneW: huge === JaneW has a chinese tennant, and we battle to communicate! ;) [09:03] JaneW, but you'll love their discipline === jsgotangco enjoyed Seoul compared to his Tokyo trip a few years ago [09:04] I end up talking slow and loud, and somehow we get by, but understanding probably less than half of what each other is saying... [09:04] ;) === JaneW loves everything about the east [09:04] SE Asia and beyond === jsgotangco still waiting for the pics where he was in a suit === JaneW saw House of Flying Daggers on Sunday - wow! [09:05] eh? [09:05] that's too asian [09:05] hehe [09:05] movie [09:05] yeah [09:05]