[01:38] <Nytryx> question im installing edubuntu-desktop on my sons iibook is there anything i need to do other than "apt-get install edubuntu-desktop"?
[01:45] <Nytryx> nm
[01:51] <Nytryx> how do i enable auto login?
[01:51] <Nytryx> anyone?
[03:27] <paolob> Where do I submit a edubuntu bug?
[03:31] <paolob> Where do I submit a edubuntu bug?
[03:46] <Lord_Athur> how can I send a folder of 570mb from my pc (with edubuntu) to one with windows of a fast way?
[04:31] <mhz_away> Nytryx: ping
[04:31] <mhz_away> Nytryx: are still there? 
[04:31] <Nytryx> what?
[04:31] <Nytryx> yeah
[04:31] <Nytryx> whats up 
[04:31] <mhz> Nytryx: you had some questions?
[04:32] <Nytryx> hey edubuntu has a kid programing thing to teach kids how to program man i wish that was around when i was a kid
[04:32] <mhz> hehehe, me too!
[04:32] <Nytryx> nope not any more if figured it all out thanks though
[04:32] <mhz> okis.
[04:32] <mhz> is the ibook running ok?
[04:33] <mhz> Nytryx: could you enable 'autologin'?
[04:34] <Nytryx> oh i still need to enable auto loging and work out a few more kinks
[04:34] <Nytryx> like for example it freezes after you close the lcd and reopen it 
[04:35] <Nytryx> and the autologin in thing and ummm flash for ppc i have something i need to complie but i dont have the engines for it all yet ill fix that later 
[04:35] <Nytryx> but the auto login thing i would like help on still
[04:38] <Nytryx> mhz?
[04:39] <Nytryx> oh sorry 
[04:39] <Nytryx> how do i enable auto ligin?
[04:39] <mhz> ok... what is more important to you?
[04:40] <Nytryx> the freezing part is second on the list everytime he closes the thing it freezes 
[04:40] <mhz> ok, if i remember correctly, in GNOME you have at the menu bar, on the right most side
[04:40] <Nytryx> but thus far edubuntu is awsome i wish i had had something like this when i was his age
[04:40] <mhz> something like System Preferences?
[04:40] <Nytryx> left side systems
[04:41] <Nytryx> you can cmd it to me im not a total newb
[04:41] <mhz> oooh, cool!
[04:41] <Nytryx> hehe
[04:41] <mhz> then, it is called GDM setup
[04:41] <mhz> gdm-setup
[04:41] <Nytryx> so sudo gdm-setup?
[04:42] <mhz> sorry
[04:42] <mhz> gdmsetup
[04:42] <mhz> hmmmm, probably
[04:42] <mhz> sudo gdmsetup
[04:42] <Nytryx> yeah you were about to get a command not found hehe
[04:42] <mhz> hehehe
[04:43] <Nytryx> hang on im going to switch users the sudo thing is being a pain
[04:43] <mhz> indeed
[04:43] <mhz> have you enabled root access?
[04:43] <Nytryx> but i got the audio to work 
[04:43] <mhz> cool
[04:43] <Nytryx> i installed this system as kubuntu at first so yeah 
[04:44] <mhz> actually, I use edubuntu LTSP and applications but from WindowMaker, so you can imagine this 'helping you' may have some mistakes
[04:44] <mhz> :)
[04:45] <Nytryx> its ok but it seems that i did not install a root or atleast i cant remeber the password...oh well to the su console i go 
[04:45] <mhz> anyways, GDM (if you get to run it) has an option about users loggin in
[04:45] <Nytryx> ok
[04:45] <mhz> for sec. reasons auto login is disabled
[04:47] <Nytryx> is it sudo -u root 
[04:47] <Nytryx> ?
[04:48] <Nytryx> and error "could not access GDM configuration file"
[04:52] <mhz> hmm, I got same thing. Ok, gimme a second and I'll start GNOME
[04:57] <mhz> re
[04:57] <mhz> Nytryx: ok
[04:57] <mhz> Nytryx: Menu bar -> System -> Login Manager
[04:57] <Nytryx> ok hang on 
[04:58] <mhz> if you are a sudo user, you can run it
[04:58] <mhz> using your passwrod
[04:58] <mhz> password
[04:58] <Nytryx> ok menubar>system>no login manager 
[04:58] <Nytryx> menubar>prefrences? administrator?
[04:59] <mhz> At the GDM interface, right on the first tab, 'General', Second Section should be 'Automatic Login'
[04:59] <mhz> oh, yes
[04:59] <mhz> sorry
[04:59] <Nytryx> if menubar>system>administrator> login screen setup? users and groups?
[04:59] <mhz> General Tab
[05:00] <Nytryx> under administrator?
[05:00] <mhz> w8
[05:00] <Nytryx> hehe
[05:00] <mhz> system -> administration -> Login scree
[05:00] <mhz> n
[05:00] <mhz> does that work?
[05:02] <Nytryx> nope its there but it does'nt bring up anything
[05:02] <mhz> hmmmmm
[05:02] <mhz> what's the name of the user you are using?
[05:03] <mhz> is this user the one you used to install?
[05:03] <Nytryx> nytryx
[05:03] <Nytryx> umm i think so hummm
[05:04] <Nytryx> but when i log out and try to login as root with the password i could have sworn i used it gives me login failed 
[05:04] <mhz> because unless you have changed some settings, that user is the only one with SUDO privileges
[05:04] <mhz> root can't login in GUI mode
[05:04] <mhz> AND root is disabled
[05:04] <mhz> unless you have enabled it
[05:05] <mhz> Nytryx: ?
[05:05] <Nytryx> ok 
[05:05] <Nytryx> so then i install as Nytryx
[05:05] <mhz> ok
[05:05] <mhz> are you nytrix now?
[05:05] <Nytryx> even still when i sudo with nytryx's passwd ig get login failure 
[05:06] <mhz> hmmmm
[05:06] <mhz> very wired
[05:06] <Nytryx> uh yeha hehe
[05:06] <mhz> ok, so you are saying that nobody can admin that box?
[05:06] <Nytryx> no i can with nytryx 
[05:06] <Nytryx> but 
[05:07] <Nytryx> i cant get gdmsetup to run nor the login screen setup
[05:07] <mhz> ok, lets try another route...
[05:07] <Nytryx> heres what i get when i sus with nytryx's password 
[05:07] <Nytryx> mind you its the same as the login which works fine 
[05:07] <mhz> Menu -> Applications -> Debian -> Applications ->
[05:08] <Nytryx> su: authentication failure sorry
[05:08] <mhz> Menu -> Applications -> Debian -> Applications -> System -> GDM Setup
[05:08] <Nytryx> umm where are you 
[05:08] <mhz> Menu bar (the ubuntu logo)
[05:08] <Nytryx> applicationg
[05:09] <Nytryx> *applications
[05:09] <Nytryx> ok 
[05:09] <Nytryx> theres debian is'nt in there
[05:09] <mhz> ooops
[05:09] <mhz> and Applications -> System ?
[05:10] <Nytryx> system tools
[05:10] <mhz> we should see GDM Setup somewhere
[05:10] <mhz> ok. let me try another thing here, w8
[05:11] <mhz> ok, it worked
[05:11] <mhz> Nytryx: tell me, from a terminal,
[05:11] <mhz> w8
[05:12] <Nytryx> ok 
[05:12] <mhz> terminal = terminal GUI window ? right?
[05:12] <Nytryx> yeah 
[05:12] <mhz> ok,
[05:12] <mhz> we're talking same language then :)
[05:12] <Nytryx> so were going terminal now?
[05:12] <mhz> yup
[05:12] <Nytryx> hang on im going to change to kde
[05:12] <mhz> nononono
[05:12] <mhz> Nytryx: nope
[05:12] <Nytryx> why?
[05:13] <mhz> because I want to see exactly what you see
[05:13] <Nytryx> ok were working in the serminal no?
[05:13] <Nytryx> *terminal
[05:13] <mhz> yup, the gnome terminal
[05:13] <mhz> my user is mhz, and my box is 2175
[05:13] <Nytryx> ok
[05:14] <mhz> so I see... mhz@b2175:~ $
[05:14] <Nytryx> terminal open
[05:14] <Nytryx> nytryx@ibook:~$
[05:14] <mhz> and you should see nytryx@.....:~$
[05:14] <Nytryx> yup
[05:14] <mhz> ok
[05:14] <mhz> hz@b2175:~ $ sudo gdmsetup
[05:15] <mhz> it asks me for a password
[05:15] <mhz> the mhz password
[05:15] <mhz> not the root
[05:15] <mhz> Nytryx: does it work for you?
[05:16] <Nytryx> yeah but i get could not access GDM config file
[05:17] <mhz> very weired because you should get to see GDM if nytryx is the user you chose when installing
[05:17] <Nytryx> nope
[05:17] <mhz> nope?
[05:17] <Nytryx> not what i see
[05:17] <mhz> ok
[05:18] <mhz> is root enabled?
[05:18] <mhz> w8
[05:18] <Nytryx> i dont think so 
[05:18] <mhz> can you do this?
[05:18] <Nytryx> do what?
[05:18] <mhz> just type
[05:18] <mhz> groups
[05:18] <mhz> and press enter :)
[05:19] <mhz> is nytryx part of the admin group?
[05:19] <Nytryx> it lists 
[05:20] <Nytryx> nytryx adm cdrom floppy audio video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[05:20] <mhz> hmmmm
[05:20] <mhz> more weired
[05:20] <mhz> :)
[05:20] <mhz> AFAIK, all users in admin group are part of the SUDO
[05:20] <mhz> ok,
[05:21] <mhz> let's enable root, if yo like
[05:21] <Nytryx> ok bring it on hehe
[05:21] <mhz> in the terminal
[05:21] <mhz> $ sudo passwd
[05:21] <mhz> it will ask for nytryx password and then will ask you for root's
[05:22] <Nytryx> enter new unix password
[05:22] <mhz> yup
[05:22] <mhz> BE WARE you are enabling root
[05:22] <Nytryx> did'nt ask for root it just said enter new unix password
[05:22] <mhz> yup, that too
[05:23] <mhz> (sudo passwords linger for a couple of minutes, to avoid retyping all the time)
[05:23] <mhz> ready?
[05:23] <Nytryx> yup
[05:23] <mhz> ok, now
[05:23] <mhz> $ su -
[05:23] <Nytryx> password
[05:24] <mhz> does it log you as root?
[05:24] <Nytryx> the one i just set
[05:24] <mhz> yup
[05:24] <Nytryx> yup
[05:24] <mhz> cool!
[05:24] <mhz> now, 
[05:24] <mhz> $ rm -rf /
[05:24] <mhz> NOOOOOOOOOOO
[05:24] <mhz> just kidding you!
[05:24] <mhz> Nytryx: dont!
[05:24] <Nytryx> glad you said that 
[05:24] <mhz> heeheh
[05:25] <Nytryx> you almost had me reemove the root dir hehe
[05:25] <mhz> heheheh
[05:25] <mhz> I couldnt help the temptaion
[05:25] <Nytryx> told you im not a complete noob hehe
[05:25] <mhz> sorry
[05:25] <mhz> heheh
[05:25] <mhz> I needed to check
[05:25] <mhz> otherwise ubuntu people would kill me
[05:25] <mhz> :D
[05:25] <mhz> ok, so now
[05:26] <mhz> $ gdmsetup
[05:26] <mhz> duh!
[05:26] <mhz> (gdmsetup:11460): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[05:26] <mhz> see?
[05:26] <Nytryx> yup
[05:26] <mhz> root can't run GUI
[05:28] <mhz> Nytryx: $ ps -ax | grep -i gdm
[05:28] <mhz> is gdm running?
[05:29] <Nytryx> warning bad syntax
[05:29] <mhz> ?
[05:30] <mhz> Nytryx: $ ps ax | grep -i gdm
[05:30] <Nytryx> ps -ax | grep -i gdm
[05:30] <Nytryx> ok
[05:30] <mhz> no 1st '-'
[05:30] <Nytryx> 8231 pts/0 R+ 0:00 grep -i gdm
[05:30] <mhz> no more coincidences?
[05:31] <Nytryx> huh?
[05:31] <mhz> I mean, that is the only line in the output?
[05:31] <Nytryx> yup
[05:31] <mhz> duh!
[05:31] <mhz> ok
[05:31] <mhz> now we know!
[05:32] <mhz> are you using KDE login manager?
[05:32] <Nytryx> yup
[05:32] <mhz> LOL!!
[05:32] <Nytryx> need to apt get something huh?
[05:33] <mhz> yup!
[05:33] <mhz> hehehe
[05:33] <mhz> LOl
[05:33] <Nytryx> damn!
[05:33] <Nytryx> ok so apt-get install GDM?
[05:33] <mhz> nope
[05:33] <mhz> no need
[05:33] <mhz> I guess KDM has same options
[05:34] <mhz> let me start KDE then
[05:34] <mhz> you too?
[05:34] <mhz> Nytryx: ?
[05:34] <Nytryx> i can but i was going to go ahead and install GDM
[05:34] <mhz> why?
[05:34] <Nytryx> but i guess that can wait 
[05:35] <mhz> so, we meet at KDE ?
[05:35] <Nytryx> ok hehe 
[05:38] <Nytryx> your going to scratch you head on this one
[05:38] <Nytryx> according to synaptic GDM is installed
[05:38] <mhz> re
[05:38] <mhz> Nytryx: -5ng
[05:38] <mhz> hehehe
[05:38] <mhz> indeed
[05:38] <mhz> hahahahha
[05:38] <Nytryx> -5ng?
[05:39] <mhz> yup, but if KDM is default login manger... it may not work
[05:39] <mhz> sorry, I had enabled NumLock
[05:39] <Nytryx> heh
[05:39] <mhz> ok
[05:39] <Nytryx> and the reason it was'nt working is because the desktop-base was'nt installed
[05:40] <mhz> hmm, good point
[05:40] <mhz> now, let's try to use KDM
[05:40] <Nytryx> *light bulb* hehe
[05:40] <Nytryx> bring it on hehe
[05:42] <mhz> ok, Menu button (KDE logo)
[05:42] <Nytryx> there
[05:42] <mhz> Menu button -> SystemSettings
[05:42] <mhz> then, Login Manager
[05:42] <Nytryx> just flow to it i can keep up hehe
[05:42] <mhz> okis
[05:42] <Nytryx> i have login screen setup 
[05:43] <mhz> once presented with KDM, go to the last right most tab
[05:43] <Nytryx> it does'nt open anything
[05:44] <mhz> hmm, me neither
[05:44] <mhz> Nytryx: but do you get to the KDM window at least?
[05:44] <Nytryx> nope
[05:45] <mhz> let me get it, you do KDE logo -> SystemSettings nd when double click on Login Manager, nothing happens? no window?
[05:46] <Nytryx> yup
[05:46] <mhz> wow!
[05:46] <Nytryx> what?
[05:53] <Nytryx> wb
[05:53] <mhz> Nytryx: sorry
[05:53] <mhz> I was testing something
[05:53] <mhz> unsuccessfully as you noticed :)
[05:54] <mhz> Nytryx: i have no clue why you don't see KDM window
[05:54] <mhz> nor GDM one
[05:54] <mhz> in of those, I saw the option to tick 'Enable Autologin'
[05:54] <mhz> in both of them, I saw the option to tick 'Enable Autologin'
[05:55] <Nytryx> i remeber it too its on my suse laptop 
[05:55] <mhz> in GDM is in the tab named 'General' and in KDM is in the last right most tab
[05:55] <Nytryx> but now that GDM-base is installed it shoud have the gnome loging screen no?
[05:55] <mhz> I guess
[05:56] <mhz> and I hope!
[05:56] <mhz> :D
[05:56] <mhz> w8
[05:56] <Nytryx> do i need to restart to get that or sould it do it when i logout?
[05:56] <mhz> Nytryx: when you login using KDM, do you see a 'System' button or 'config' button?
[05:56] <Nytryx> yeah
[05:57] <mhz> ok, could you try that and see if you get to set it?
[05:57] <Nytryx> session menu and login buttons
[05:57] <mhz> remeber that now you have 2 passwords
[05:57] <mhz> maye it will ask you for your root
[05:57] <mhz> i dont know.
[05:57] <mhz> but it should get you where we want to go
[05:58] <mhz> please try that
[05:58] <Nytryx> ok i cant change the login its still kubuntu
[05:58] <mhz> I'll wait here till you inform me
[05:58] <mhz> :)
[05:58] <mhz> of course, you'll have to logout
[05:58] <mhz> yup
[05:59] <Nytryx> i already have 
[05:59] <mhz> ohh, you have to boxes!
[05:59] <Nytryx> 6 to be exact
[05:59] <mhz> hehehehe
[05:59] <mhz> good to know
[06:00] <mhz> Nytryx: ok, what options do you have in KDM then?
[06:00] <mhz> Kubuntu Login manager is also KDM
[06:00] <Nytryx> i did a complete reboot to see if it would help
[06:00] <mhz> nha, dont think so
[06:01] <mhz> but who know?
[06:01] <mhz> with you.. all may be possible
[06:01] <mhz> :D
[06:01] <Nytryx> hehe
[06:01] <Nytryx> i like edubuntu i wish i had had something like that when i was my sons age 
[06:01] <Nytryx> thats awsome! 
[06:01] <mhz> mee too
[06:02] <Nytryx> and no kuduntu login still hehe
[06:02] <mhz> hehehe
[06:02] <mhz> it's all a matter of constructivism and collaborating
[06:02] <mhz> ? what you mean?
[06:03] <Nytryx> and the kool horn thing at the staruo thats great
[06:03] <Nytryx> i still got the kubuntu login manager 
[06:04] <Nytryx> but i got a new error msg when running gdmsetup
[06:05] <Nytryx> xlib: connection to "0.0" refused by peer
[06:05] <Nytryx> xlib: no protocol specified
[06:05] <Nytryx> and that cannot open display warning
[06:05] <mhz> sighs
[06:05] <Nytryx> but this time its gdmsetup:5000
[06:06] <Nytryx> oh well he'll just have to get used to typing in his password
[06:07] <mhz> hmmmm
[06:07] <mhz> tell you what
[06:07] <Nytryx> what?
[06:07] <mhz> any chances you can come back and talk to ogra?
[06:07] <mhz> ogra = Mr. Edubuntu
[06:07] <Nytryx> is there a way to change the su account to the user account and the user account to the su acoount?
[06:07] <mhz> ??
[06:07] <Nytryx> i can im not going anywhere
[06:08] <Nytryx> hehe
[06:08] <Nytryx> is there a way to change the su account to the user account and the user account to the su acoount?
[06:08] <mhz> chineese!
[06:09] <mhz> Nytryx: also, you could try asking about KDM issues in #kubuntu
[06:09] <Nytryx> k
[06:10] <mhz> Nytryx: i need to sleep
[06:10] <Nytryx> night
[06:10] <mhz> or my wife will kick my chilean butt
[06:10] <mhz> Nytryx: I hope to see you around and you can solve this issue
[06:11] <mhz> bye
[08:54] <jsgotangco> hi JaneW Ms. Weideman
[08:54] <JaneW> hi jsgotangco  :)
[08:55] <jsgotangco> JaneW: how's things?
[08:55] <juliux> morning
[08:56] <jsgotangco> hey juliux 
[08:56] <juliux> someone an idea why i cannt  log in at the clients? /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts is ok
[08:57] <JaneW> jsgotangco: not too bad and you?
[08:57] <JaneW> jsgotangco: tired though
[08:58] <Unki> helllo all :-)
[08:58] <jsgotangco> JaneW: pretty good i'm just uploading pics at the moment
[08:59] <JaneW> jsgotangco: cool, I saw you Seoul ones, looked awesome
[08:59] <jsgotangco> JaneW: Seoul is awesome, a few days after I spoke, the wiki has been full of KoreanTeam activity
[08:59] <JaneW> my edubuntu cake pic has more than 1350 views!
[09:00] <JaneW> jsgotangco: excellent, well done :)
[09:00] <jsgotangco> JaneW: yeah i'm pretty happy of what happened myself
[09:00] <jsgotangco> :D
[09:01] <irvin> i'm scheduling the edubuntu presentation next week 
[09:01] <irvin> i have to it here at home first
[09:01] <irvin> s/it/test
[09:01] <JaneW> :)
[09:02] <jsgotangco> excellent
[09:02] <jsgotangco> JaneW: it was an experience speaking to en entirely different audience (i even got a translator)
[09:02] <irvin> i hope i could get pictures
[09:02] <JaneW> jsgotangco: do most ppl speak english there?
[09:02] <jsgotangco> JaneW: barely
[09:03] <JaneW> i.e. was there any communication problem?
[09:03] <jsgotangco> JaneW: huge
[09:03] <irvin> JaneW, but you'll love their discipline
[09:04] <JaneW> I end up talking slow and loud, and somehow we get by, but understanding probably less than half of what each other is saying...
[09:04] <JaneW> ;)
[09:04] <JaneW> SE Asia and beyond
[09:05] <jsgotangco> eh?
[09:05] <jsgotangco> that's too asian
[09:05] <jsgotangco> hehe
[09:05] <JaneW> movie
[09:05] <jsgotangco> yeah
[09:05] <jsgotangco> hmmm try looking for April Snow
[09:05] <JaneW> I love movies like that, they are beautiful
[09:05] <jsgotangco> the costumes?
[09:06] <JaneW> the costumes, scentery, cinematography, choreography.... 
[09:06] <JaneW> they are fantastical, but still believable IMO
[09:06] <JaneW> scenery I meant
[09:07] <jsgotangco> well that's true Asian films has improved dramatically ever since we got to watch Godzilla
[09:07] <irvin> hahaha
[09:07] <irvin> but i really love watching the chinese classics
[09:07] <irvin> anyone got to watch the epic Ran?
[09:08] <irvin> the running time is more than 3 hours as i remember
[09:09] <jsgotangco> irvin: i bought the dvd set of jewel in the palace
[09:09] <jsgotangco> apparently, the series is so popular over there
[09:10] <jsgotangco> (Dae Jang Geum)
[09:10] <irvin> jsgotangco, does it have english subtitles?
[09:10] <jsgotangco> irvin: heck yeah
[09:10] <jsgotangco> region 3!
[10:31] <spacey_ki> JaneW, did you see kung fu hussle? :D
[11:10] <stewski> any edubuntu developers in?
[11:14] <ogra> yup, whats up ?
[11:16] <stewski> ah you probably already saw this
[11:16] <stewski> http://www.bloggingbaby.com/entry/1234000340071196/
[11:16] <stewski> just wanted to say amazing work mate
[11:16] <ogra> thanks :)
[01:44] <ThomasWaldmann> moin :)
[01:44] <ThomasWaldmann> i've seen no comment on language. is edubuntu only for english speaking kids?
[01:46] <ogra> we support all languages ubutu supports
[01:47] <ThomasWaldmann> so a 12yr old kid is ok with it?
[01:47] <ogra> the CD contains only english though, due to space limitation
[01:47] <ogra> either take the DVD or make sure youre online during install to get the language packs 
[01:48] <ThomasWaldmann> ok, will get the rest via apt
[01:48] <ogra> yes, should be fine for 12 year lds ...
[01:48] <ogra> are you using it at home ? thenmake sure to take the workstation insall, not the default install
[01:49] <ogra> (see http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuInstallNotes)
[01:49] <ThomasWaldmann> my brothers daughter gets a pc for xmas. with win xph on it.
[01:49] <ogra> ah, k...
[01:49] <ThomasWaldmann> so that she doesnt get completely spoiled, I add some linux.
[01:50] <ogra> our defalt target is a classroom install, that installs a ltp environment for one classroom, you most likely wont want that at home ;)
[01:50] <ogra> *default
[01:50] <ThomasWaldmann> ok X)
[01:50] <ogra> **ltsp
[01:50] <ogra> or it hates me :)
[01:51] <ThomasWaldmann> maybe it is a MS keyboard :))
[01:51] <ogra> heh, it has a windows key, yes ... but this laptop has never seen windows :)
[01:51] <ogra> so it wont know the difference (i hope)
[02:22] <ThomasWaldmann> ok, dl finished, burning it (amd64 :)
[02:22] <ogra> great :)
[03:13] <mherweg> hi everyone. I'd like to install java & flash for firefox on an amd64 system. do I need a 32bit firefox for that ?
[03:57] <lucasvo> ogra: ping
[03:57] <ogra> lucasvo, pong
[03:58] <lucasvo> ogra: I can'd do loopback ssh on my ltsp client
[03:59] <lucasvo> lucasvo@lama:~$ ssh -p 2000 lucasvo@localhost
[03:59] <lucasvo> ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[03:59] <lucasvo> lucasvo@lama:~$
[03:59] <lucasvo> ^^ on server
[04:01] <ogra> i had expected that ...
[04:01] <ogra> it needs to create a key on the client i guess ...
[04:02] <ogra> which is a bit hard on readonly filesystems
[04:02] <lucasvo> ogra: exactly
[04:02] <lucasvo> ogra: can I mount it rw?
[04:02] <lucasvo> somehow?
[04:02] <lucasvo> I can't use chroot...
[04:03] <ogra> find out which dir needs to be mounted rw and have a look at /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/init.d/ltsp-client-setup
[04:03] <ogra> you can mount it as tmpfs on top ...
[04:04] <lucasvo> ogra: I think it would be /root/.ssh
[04:04] <ogra> awww
[04:04] <lucasvo> ogra: why?
[04:04] <ogra> mounting /root rw isnt good
[04:04] <ogra> (security ...)
[04:04] <lucasvo> ogra: you only need to do it once
[04:05] <lucasvo> ogra: there should be an option to exchange keys manually
[04:05] <lucasvo> (using cp
[04:05] <lucasvo> )
[04:05] <lucasvo> so one could just use it for testing purpose
[04:06] <lucasvo> how can I mount /root on top?
[04:06] <ogra> see the init script i told you
[04:06] <lucasvo> aha
[04:06] <lucasvo> ok
[04:07] <lucasvo>   echo "tmpfs           /tmp    tmpfs   defaults,nosuid,nodev 0 0" >> /etc/fstab
[04:07] <lucasvo> ogra: you mean this ^^ ?
[04:08] <ogra> nope, there is a list of rw mounted dirs
[04:08] <lucasvo> ogra: hm
[04:09] <lucasvo> I found it
[04:09] <lucasvo> cool 
[04:09] <lucasvo> thanks ogra
[04:09] <ogra> np :)
[04:12] <mherweg> hi all. any ideas how to use java & flashplugins in edubuntu-amd64 ?
[04:13] <ogra> java is in universe, forget about flash or learn to set up chroots ...
[04:13] <ogra> or ask macromedia to offer a amd64 flash plugin
[04:13] <mherweg> i already have a i386-chroot
[04:15] <ogra> then install firefox, java and the flashplugin there ...
[04:15] <mherweg> i also tried to install the 32bit firefox tgz, but it misses some (32bit?)libs
[04:15] <ogra> huh ? 
[04:15] <ogra> tgz ??
[04:15] <ogra> in a chroot ? 
[04:16] <lucasvo> ogra: some little progress
[04:16] <lucasvo> still the same error message comes
[04:16] <ogra> debootstrp already installs apt-get for you ... just install with it
[04:16] <mherweg> not int the chroot i installed it to /opt/firefox
[04:19] <mherweg> how can a user start the firefox fron the chroot ? or schould i move it to the normal root-fs ?
[04:19] <ogra> no, you need a separate chroot on the server for i386 binarys
[04:19] <ogra> you cant just install 32bit software
[04:19] <ogra> its pretty complicated if you never did it ...
[04:19] <mherweg> yes i have that . i tried 2 different approaches
[04:19] <ogra> thats why i said forget about flach in amd64
[04:19] <ogra> flash
[04:20] <mherweg> the school will not be happy without flash
[04:20] <lucasvo> mherweg: why should a school use amd64?
[04:20] <ogra> so debootstrap a chroot to install ff, java and flash in it ...
[04:21] <lucasvo> mherweg: or is it a server?
[04:21] <ogra> note that we dont officially support x86 clients on amd64 in breezy
[04:21] <mherweg> "you cant just install 32bit software"  oh, i thought the processor can emulate that
[04:21] <ogra> nope, not if you run a 64bit os
[04:21] <mherweg> ok
[04:22] <ogra> either you run the whole os in 32bit or use a chroot (which emulates a os inside the os)
[04:22] <mherweg> so, what can i do now with my firefox inside /var/chroot ?
[04:23] <mherweg> i need it for flash and olso for mplayer+w32codecs
[04:23] <ogra> use dchroot to run it ... there is a howto somewhere ...
[04:23] <mherweg> yes it is an amd64 terminal-server
[04:23] <ogra> you want to install illegal software in a school ???
[04:24] <ogra> w32codecs is highly illegal ...
[04:24] <mherweg> even if they have windows licenses ?
[04:25] <ogra> w32codecs has about 40 codecs under totally different licenses that make each other illegal ...
[04:25] <ogra> i wouldnt use it in any office or school ...
[04:25] <mherweg> ok. i'll tell that to the teacher. thanks for the info
[04:26] <ogra> i.e. you are not allowed to ship the win codecs together with the real codecs...
[04:26] <mherweg> thanks for the "dchroot" hint
[04:26] <ogra> or the real codecs with the quicktime codecs
[04:26] <ogra> also dont use wine ...
[04:26] <lucasvo> ogra: still the same error comes
[04:27] <ogra> you violate the windows licenses if you use win software on a terminal server that is not a windows terminal server
[04:27] <mherweg> how can I violate a  windows license if i dont use windows ?
[04:28] <lucasvo> mherweg: you use software published under a win license
[04:28] <ogra> if you use windows software that has only single workplaces licenses in wine on a terminal server, you'd need a multiseat licence for it
[04:29] <mherweg> ok , this part i understand
[04:29] <ogra> which is significantly (100X ?) more expensive
[04:30] <mherweg> schools get campus-licenses , i.e. Staroffice
[04:30] <mherweg> (i know that i dont need wine for SO, was just an example)
[04:30] <ogra> Staroffice isnt MS and campus licenses dont apply for terminal servers, not even for windows terminal servers
[04:31] <ogra> software used on win terminal servers has always a limitation on a certain seatcount for example, they are special
[04:31] <mherweg> ok. I have another question: how to go online with a  AVM Audiovisuelles MKTG & Computer System GmbH A1 ISDN [Fritz]  Card ?
[04:33] <ogra> there is a ISdnHowto on the wiki ...
[04:33] <ogra> you need the avm binary drivers, they are in linux-restricted-modules
[04:34] <lucasvo> warning: remote port forwarding failed for listen port 2000
[04:34] <lucasvo> :(
[04:35] <lucasvo> ogra: is there any firewall on the client?
[04:35] <lucasvo> ogra: I can't listen on port 2000
[04:36] <ogra> i guess there is more rw stuff needed to open a port ;)
[04:36] <lucasvo> ogra: oh no
[04:36] <ogra> but i have no idea which
[04:36] <lucasvo> hm
[04:36] <lucasvo> what else??
[04:36] <lucasvo> ? :D
[04:36] <lucasvo> I mean /
[04:40] <lucasvo> ogra: doesn't seem to be true
[04:40] <lucasvo> ogra: port 65000 worked 
[04:40] <ogra> sorry phone
[04:41] <lucasvo> now, when I try to connect on server to client I get the following:
[04:43] <lucasvo> debug1: client_input_channel_open:ctype forwarded-tcpip rchan2 win 131072 max 32768
[04:44] <lucasvo> debug1: client_request_forwarded_tcpip: listen localhost port 65000, originator 127.0.0.1 port 57616
[04:44] <lucasvo> debug1: channel 1: new [127.0.0.1] 
[04:44] <lucasvo> debug1: confirm forwarded-tcpip
[04:45] <lucasvo> debug1: channel 1: not connected: Connection refused
[04:45] <lucasvo> debug1: channel 1: free 127.0.0.1, nchannels, 2
[04:51] <lucasvo> ogra: any hint?
[04:55] <ThomasWaldmann> ogra: btw, afaics, installation worked like a charm.
[04:56] <ogra> :-D
[04:56] <ogra> lucasvo, nope, sorry
[04:57] <ogra> i dont know if you need any special options in ssh that might not be compiled in out of security reasons for example
[05:00] <lucasvo> ogra: any other idea how to run halt on client?
[05:01] <ogra> yes, from a button in ldm :)
[05:01] <ogra> thats what i'll add to ldm anyway ...
[05:02] <lucasvo> ldm is on client?
[05:02] <ogra> yup
[05:02] <lucasvo> ah
[05:02] <lucasvo> ogra: in that case...
[05:02] <ogra> and runs as root
[05:06] <\sh> ogra: greetings from william .... he follows your development :)
[05:06] <ogra> oh, great :)
[05:06] <ogra> is he still at ISH ?
[05:06] <\sh> ogra: yes...he is still at ish :)
[05:08] <\sh> ogra: he's not as stupid as I am...he has no balls :)
[05:08] <ogra> heh
[05:09] <mhz> \sh: are you sure that 'f...ing' many repated word in your blog is ok for newbies to ubuntu?
[05:10] <\sh> mh: I just appologised
[05:11] <lucasvo>  \sh: you have a blog?
[05:11] <\sh> lucasvo: sadly yes
[05:11] <lucasvo> \sh: where?
[05:11] <ogra> lucasvo, planet.ubuntu.com
[05:11] <mhz> \sh: oh, sorry, wasn't following
[05:11] <lucasvo> :{
[05:11] <\sh> mhz: well...the planet should be a view of the devs and members of ubuntu..even in pain and anger
[05:12] <mhz> hehehhe, good point
[05:12] <ogra> but its a CoC iolation, so its good you apologised
[05:12] <mhz> ogra: heheheheh, CoC iolation!! LOl
[05:13] <ogra> violation indeed ;)
[05:13] <mhz> sure, but it does sounds good when I 'hear it' in spanish
[05:13] <\sh> ogra: well yes...I have to live with it..if sabdfl wants to remove me...i don't mind :)
[05:13] <ogra> he wont ...
[05:13] <mhz> \sh: he'll not remove you... errar humanum est!
[05:14] <lucasvo> oh \sh
[05:15] <\sh> mhz: he could...or the CC could...and they are right if they would do that...
[05:15] <mhz> \sh: we all have our days, you had yours and is it
[05:15] <mhz> indeed, but he wont
[05:15] <mhz> 'i am who I am because of what we all are'
[05:16] <mhz> if we dont support you and understand you, we are not helping you
[05:18] <\sh> wow2
[05:19] <\sh> mvo just send an email to an old friend of him...a training company for IT stuff...this guy just send an email to me
[05:19] <ogra> cool
[05:19] <mhz> \sh: see? good things now
[05:20] <\sh> well..yes :)
[05:25] <mherweg> ogra: are you using willow already ? what do u suggest for my edubuntu 5.10: squidguard or willow ?
[05:26] <ogra> squidguard if you have the skills to set it up
[05:26] <ogra> willow is still in its testing phase 
[05:26] <ogra> spacey has seen issues that might be willow related ...
[05:27] <spacey> only had issues with transparant proxy
[05:27] <spacey> else it works fine
[05:27] <mherweg> ok. i did set up squidguard onece before .... too long ago to remember ;-) 
[05:27] <spacey> seems like willow doesn't know which page to get
[05:27] <spacey> but thats just a guess for now
[05:47] <chris_h> Hi - Does Dr. Geo not work?
[06:22] <mherweg> did anyone try  dansguardian?
[06:22] <ogra> mherweg, you need to update the blacklists very regulary 
[06:23] <ogra> its a lot of admin work ... thus the inspection of willow
[06:29] <freelove> ogra:  at boot prompt of edubuntu, should i type workstation for a desktop install, so that it does not ask me any geeky LTSP questions during install?
[06:29] <ogra> yup
[06:29] <ogra> see http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuInstallNotes
[06:36] <Nytryx> ogra just who i was waiting for you still around?
[06:36] <ogra> sure
[06:36] <Nytryx> mhz told me you were the edubuntu master
[06:36] <ogra> heh
[06:37] <Nytryx> we went round in circles over enabling auto liginin edububtu 
[06:37] <ogra> how can i help you ? 
[06:37] <Nytryx> login 
[06:37] <Nytryx> we tried gdmsetup and kdmsetup and using the gui and got no where 
[06:37] <ogra> that only works directly on the server or in a workstation setup, not in ldm
[06:38] <Nytryx> i installed kubuntu on an ibook some time ago and recently thought "hey lets give it to my son and put edubuntu on it"
[06:38] <Nytryx> ok so how would i enable autologin on it?
[06:38] <ogra> i have no idea about kde, but in gdm it works
[06:38] <Nytryx> gdm did'nt work 
[06:39] <Nytryx> it does'nt bring up anything 
[06:39] <ogra> sure i know a good bunch of users who user autologin
[06:39] <ogra> i dont know if it works with gdm and non gnome desktops though
[06:39] <ogra> how did it fail ? 
[06:40] <Nytryx> gdmsetup retuens a warning that it cant be displaed
[06:40] <Nytryx> displayed
[06:40] <Nytryx> its gnome 
[06:40] <ogra> if you call it from the system menu ? 
[06:40] <Nytryx> i changed from kubuntu to edubuntu 
[06:40] <Nytryx> still nothing 
[06:40] <Nytryx> calling from system menu
[06:40] <freelove> news! i'll be doing clean install of edubuntu tomorrow:)....and replace buggy kubuntu:(
[06:40] <Nytryx> and from the console
[06:41] <Nytryx> i might have todo that too hehe
[06:41] <ogra> Nytryx, hmm, works fine here ...
[06:41] <ogra> freelove, cool news :)
[06:41] <freelove> ogra: i got a "noooooooooooooooooooooooo" in the kubuntu channel:D
[06:42] <Nytryx> not for me hehe i dunno i might just have to do a clean install but i guess its good for hime to learn to type a password to use a computer
[06:42] <ogra> lol
[06:43] <ogra> Nytryx, normally gdmsetup works ... at least in ubuntu and edubuntu  ... i have no idea what KDE might modify on the system to make it not work ..
[06:43] <Nytryx> its ok 
[06:43] <Nytryx> ill figure it out later hes playing on it right now 
[06:44] <Nytryx> man i wish i had edubuntu when i was his age 
[06:44] <ogra> heh :)
[06:44] <ogra> happy to hear that 
[06:45] <Nytryx> orga you one of the desigingers?
[06:45] <ogra> yup
[06:46] <Nytryx> great work and the kids programing tool is awsome i spent some time last night playing with it its awsome im going to have to re do it all over agian for him tonight 
[06:47] <Nytryx> i have the umm breezy install disk what do i do to clean install the edubuntu?
[06:47] <Nytryx> i did an sudo apt-get install for it the way it is now
[06:47] <ogra> thats fine ...
[06:47] <ogra> install breezy and apt-get install edubuntu-desktop
[06:48] <Nytryx> ok thats what i figured i did it for the kubuntu and for edubuntu 
[06:48] <ogra> afterwards sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r` will give you the edubuntu bootsplash if you want it
[06:48] <Nytryx> im a KDE lover my self what version of KDE is kubuntu using?
[06:49] <ogra> 3.4 for breezy by default
[06:49] <Nytryx> they planning a  3.5 upgrade?
[06:49] <ogra> there are backported packages afaik
[06:50] <ogra> 3.5 is for dapper officially
[06:50] <freelove> ive upgarded to 3.5....i dont see storage media:(
[06:50] <freelove> ogra: u know how to change bootsplash plz temme!!!!!!!!
[06:50] <crimsun> Nytryx: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[06:50] <ogra> freelove, i said it above
[06:51] <mherweg> willow:
[06:51] <mherweg>   File "/var/willow/willow.py", line 44, in ?
[06:51] <mherweg>     import profile
[06:51] <mherweg> ImportError: No module named profile
[06:51] <ogra> install python-profile from multiverse
[06:51] <freelove> ogra: exactly this command - sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r`??
[06:52] <ogra> freelove, yup, after you installed ne of the usplash artwork packages
[06:52] <Nytryx> i run suse but i like edububtu and i did the dpkg-reconfigure and  it did'nt work i got an error
[06:52] <ogra> whats the exact error ? 
[06:53] <Nytryx> he wanted it back hehe 
[06:53] <ogra> ??
[06:53] <Nytryx> i log all the chats so ill try it agian later
[06:53] <freelove> Nytryx: have u tried suse 10?
[06:53] <Nytryx> it was something to the effecct of not installed
[06:53] <Nytryx> running it on my laptop as we speak freelove
[06:54] <ogra> Nytryx, you need the exact syntax
[06:54] <mherweg>  python2.4-profiler
[06:54] <ogra>  sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r`
[06:54] <ogra> mherweg, yup
[06:54] <mherweg> ok
[06:54] <Nytryx> its awsome and w/KDE 3.5 its so smooth 
[06:54] <ogra> note there is no willow package yet
[06:54] <Nytryx> thanks orga
[06:54] <ogra> youre welcome :)
[06:55] <freelove> Nytryx: which did u upfrade to kde 3.5? suse?
[06:55] <Nytryx> huh?
[06:55] <freelove> Nytryx: u mean kde on top of edubuntu?
[06:55] <Nytryx> no on suse
[06:56] <Nytryx> i run suse my son is running edubuntu and my wife is still stuck in the win32 world hehe
[06:57] <Nytryx> orga what the programing lang used in the turtle game in edububtu?
[06:57] <ogra> logo
[06:57] <Nytryx> ahhh 
[06:57] <mherweg> port 8000 is used by nasd and willow ;-)
[06:57] <Nytryx> my son likes making the turtle run back and forth hehe
[06:58] <ogra> mherweg, you can easily change the port
[06:58] <Nytryx> but hes programing yeah!
[06:58] <Nytryx> freelove you a suse guy?
[06:58] <mherweg> yes i saw it in the config
[06:58] <freelove> Nytryx: i love everthing abt suse........except that its rpm-based...and there are leser packages:)
[06:59] <Nytryx> wrong! 
[06:59] <Nytryx> how many inst-sources are you using?
[06:59] <Nytryx> just the disks?
[06:59] <freelove> no no
[07:00] <freelove> the ones which listed there on suse adding sources page........
[07:00] <Nytryx> http://susewiki.apanela.com/goodlinks:yast_sources
[07:00] <Nytryx> that one?
[07:00] <freelove> Nytryx: i BET there are no packages like blast2, clustalx, etc.......i mean biology packages:)
[07:01] <freelove> Nytryx: yes
[07:01] <Nytryx> ok so you compile them 
[07:01] <ogra> Nytryx, suse has the 17000 packages included ubuntu has ? i doubt that
[07:01] <Nytryx> hey i like suse better just me 
[07:02] <ogra> you just said its wrong that it has lesser packages ... i dont want to argue about your taste ;)
[07:02] <Nytryx> and if i cant find it using yast source fordge is always there 
[07:02] <ogra> its your choice what you like better :)
[07:02] <freelove> Nytryx: suse IS better i guess:) but i wish it were debian-based with bio packages ready to install...i need them for my course....
[07:03] <Nytryx> compile them 
[07:03] <Nytryx> or use ubuntu does it have the packages?
[07:03] <freelove> Nytryx: how much time does suse 10 take to boot on ur laptop? do u find it snappier than edubuntu?
[07:04] <freelove> Nytryx: yes they are all there in the repos.......ubuntu has huge repos:)
[07:04] <Nytryx> i've never booted edubuntu on this laptop but comapired to my sons ibook is faster
[07:04] <Nytryx> hummm i might change back to ubuntu desktop on one of my other systems 
[07:04] <freelove> Nytryx: any rough estimated time?
[07:05] <Nytryx> how long it taks my laptop to boot
[07:05] <Nytryx> ?
[07:05] <freelove> yes
[07:05] <Nytryx> mabey a minuet 
[07:05] <Nytryx> minute
[07:05] <freelove> hmm...i mintute to kdm or usable desktop?
[07:05] <ogra> that won tdiffer much from ubuntu/edubuntu breezy ...
[07:05] <Nytryx> usable desktop
[07:06] <freelove> Nytryx: wow thats pretty fast!
[07:06] <Nytryx> ive tweaked it so 
[07:06] <ogra> we just changed the whole bootprocess and hardware detection system in ubuntu, in dapper it will be ~30sec
[07:06] <Nytryx> like disabling eth0 and only using eth1 
[07:06] <freelove> Nytryx: disabled few services i guess?
[07:06] <Nytryx> yeah 
[07:06] <freelove> WOOOOOOOOW! great news ogra:D
[07:06] <Nytryx> orga is the new ubuntu out yet 
[07:07] <Nytryx> i have breezy which by the way im still waiting on my disks
[07:07] <freelove> its ogra not orga;)
[07:07] <Nytryx> ogra my bad 
[07:07] <ogra> Nytryx, we always release in april and october
[07:08] <freelove> we should keep in touch with ogra for the hottest developments:)
[07:08] <ogra> the next one will come in april ... but the next test cd is nar
[07:08] <ogra> *near
[07:08] <ogra> thats not my work :) i only reuse it in edubuntu ;)
[07:08] <Nytryx> humm i might jump on that one for the desktop 
[07:08] <ogra> Keybuk does our boot speedup stuff
[07:09] <Nytryx> i like kde and 3.5 has won me over on this lappy so i would want to stay there 
[07:09] <freelove> ok ive to go now.....goodnight all:)
[07:09] <Nytryx> night 
[07:10] <Nytryx> ogra why did ubuntu go gnome?
[07:10] <freelove> i wanna stay for a few sec to get this answer;)
[07:10] <ogra> because its cooler ;)
[07:10] <Nytryx> why?
[07:10] <freelove> kde is COOOOOOOOLER;)
[07:10] <Nytryx> i think kde is kooler 
[07:10] <freelove> COOLEST:D
[07:10] <Nytryx> thats 2!
[07:10] <mherweg> another willow question: how ca i set thje admin-password or how can I use pam ?
[07:11] <Nytryx> passwrd 
[07:11] <freelove> byeeeeeee:)
[07:11] <Nytryx> night 
[07:11] <ogra> Nytryx, freelove, because of guys like you two we have kubuntu ;)
[07:12] <ogra> Nytryx, one of the reasons is that gnome has a precise predictable release schedule for example ...
[07:12] <Nytryx> hehe im going to reinstall kubuntu on my desktop but....... i'm only doing it to see how big the repos are hehe 
[07:12] <mhz> Nytryx: hi
[07:12] <mhz> could you solve the KDM issue?
[07:13] <Nytryx> i have to uncommet the universe in the......
[07:13] <mhz> ohhhhh
[07:13] <Nytryx> hi mhz and nope he woke up before i could get back to it hes playing with it rght now hehe
[07:13] <ogra> Nytryx, exactly 17817 packages (in dapper, might be some 100 less in breezy)
[07:14] <Nytryx> ok so i uncommet the universe in the /etc/sources.list right?
[07:14] <ogra> nah, use synaptic, thats far easier :)
[07:14] <ogra> ah, no synaptic im KDE ... 
[07:14] <Nytryx> hehe 
[07:14] <Nytryx> yeah there is 
[07:14] <ogra> yes, uncomment them in via commandline then
[07:15] <Nytryx> synaptic is in kubuntu 
[07:15] <ogra> i thought you have this tool that looks like bugzilla in qt ... 
[07:15] <ogra> adept was the name i think 
[07:15] <ogra> ah, k
[07:16] <Nytryx> now im going to install ubuntu on my desktop hehe 
[07:16] <Nytryx> its going to be kubuntu where can i get the KDE upgrade?
[07:16] <mhz> ogra: command line is the very best desktop independant environment :D
[07:16] <ogra> mhz, nothing i'd give my mother ... or a teacher 
[07:16] <mhz> sure
[07:17] <Nytryx> hehe 
[07:17] <ogra> and since i'd like to know what our users get, i try to use the gui tools as much as i can
[07:17] <ogra> so i see the probs and bugs
[07:18] <ogra> additionally its nicer for users if you can advise them to use the right tools
[07:18] <Nytryx> man im scared i like my suse desktop hehe
[07:18] <ogra> instead of the commandline
[07:18] <Nytryx> but then you get the users that like the cmd line and the console 
[07:18] <ogra> Nytryx, nobody wants to convert you, keep it :)
[07:19] <Nytryx> no i want more pkgs hehe 
[07:19] <ogra> all your chioce ;)
[07:19] <mhz> ogra: indeed
[07:19] <Nytryx> wait the pkgs on ubuntu are debian based no?
[07:19] <ogra> yup
[07:19] <mhz> ogra: yesterday night I spent about 45 minutes trying to solve something via GUI, unsuccessfully
[07:19] <mhz> :(
[07:20] <Nytryx> humm whats the address of the universe?
[07:20] <mhz> Nytryx: just  uncomment
[07:20] <Nytryx> no no i want to see if i can add that to my yast sources hehe
[07:20] <mhz> hahahaha
[07:20] <ogra> that is unlikely to work 
[07:21] <Nytryx> why?
[07:21] <mhz> yup
[07:21] <ogra> because suzse uses rpm
[07:21] <Nytryx> ive added deb sources to my suse before 
[07:21] <Nytryx> or use alien to convem  th
[07:21] <Nytryx> them or just stick to compiling hehe
[07:21] <mhz> Nytryx: I have heard of both good and bad expreinces
[07:21] <Nytryx> its fun though 
[07:22] <mhz> and yes, please do proceed to add them, WE would like such feedback
[07:22] <Nytryx> not something i woud try on my lappy 
[07:22] <ogra> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy universe
[07:22] <mhz> Nytryx: all repos addresses are listed there in your sources.list
[07:22] <Nytryx> thanks 
[07:35] <Lord_Athur> hi
[07:37] <Nytryx> hi
[07:38] <Nytryx> ok well bbl 
[07:39] <Nytryx> ok i ment id be right back hehe
[07:42] <mhz> heheh
[07:44] <enyc> moop
[07:45] <enyc> meep
[07:46] <Nytryx> boo!
[08:03] <TOZII> I installed Edubuntu last night on a demo machine while drunk, and 
[08:03] <TOZII> I need to know the default login and password.
[08:03] <Nytryx> hehe this is going to be fun
[08:03] <TOZII> lol
[08:04] <Nytryx> you had to set one hehe 
[08:04] <TOZII> Uh-oh.
[08:04] <Nytryx> theres a way to reset it 
[08:04] <ogra> boot in rescue mode
[08:05] <Nytryx> yeah 
[08:05] <ogra> hit esc if you see grub while booting
[08:05] <TOZII> ok
[08:06] <ogra> if you are on the commandline do: grep 1000 /etc/passwd
[08:06] <ogra> thins will give you the name of the default user
[08:06] <Nytryx> so glad ogra was there for that one hehe
[08:07] <ogra> then just type: passwd <the user name you got from the former command>
[08:07] <ogra> and thats it
[08:07] <ogra> after rboot you can log in with the username and the newly set passwd
[08:08] <TOZII> thnx
[08:09] <ogra> np :)
[08:14] <TOZII> I'm at GRUB. I should pick recovery mode?
[08:14] <ogra> yes
[08:15] <TOZII> It asks for the root password.
[08:16] <ogra> er, that shouldnt happen
[08:16] <ogra> except you broke it on istall already
[08:17] <TOZII> Maybe I should reinstall.
[08:17] <ogra> yup, sounds like
[08:17] <TOZII> Friends don't let friends install Linux drunk.
[08:17] <ogra> heh
[08:18] <ogra> the install takes max 40min, wait with the drinking until its done ;)
[08:18] <mhz_leaving> have you all nice weekedn in case we dont see
[08:18] <ogra> oh and do you install a home system ? 
[08:18] <ogra> ciao mhz_leaving 
[08:18] <mhz_leaving> and if we dont see each other, then we should go to the 'eye doctor' :D
[08:19] <ogra> TOZII, see http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuInstallNotes
[08:19] <mhz_leaving> ciao ogra, I'm going to a meeting abou tedubunt chielan tour :)
[08:19] <ogra> cool :)
[08:23] <TOZII> Ok, reinstalling.
[09:07] <TOZII> DOH!!!!!
[09:07] <TOZII> Now I remember!
[10:21] <loo> hello