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Tm_Tlibqt4-debug - Qt 4 debugging runtime libraries :)12:04
seth_kyeah, Riddell... the Debian diff makes changes outside debian/, so I have to apply those by hand?12:05
Tm_TRiddell: thanks :)12:06
RiddellTm_T: make some .debs for us :)12:11
Tm_Taww, ok, configure went trough, but still cant compile kdelibs4...12:11
Riddellsebas: that pyqt tutorial would make a good dot story12:11
Tm_TRiddell: from kde trunk stuff?12:11
Tm_Tactually I thought to make deb from kopete as soon as we get msn protocol working =)12:12
Tm_Tbut without kdelibs4 I cant help getting it working12:12
RiddellTm_T: what's wrong with msn?12:13
Tm_Thttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/45479512:13
Tm_TRiddell: afaik in trunk kopete it doesn't compile12:14
Tm_TRiddell: so said duncan, and asked if I can help12:14
Riddellok12:15
Tm_Tthat was weeks ago, dunno if it fixed already :p12:15
Riddellseth_k: what changes?12:18
Riddellseth_k: if it's just Makefile.in stuff they can be ignored12:18
seth_kRiddell, there're also some po change stuff12:19
seth_kin the German translation12:19
Riddellseth_k: in the diff?  evil12:20
Riddellseth_k: either ignore it or turn it into a patch12:20
seth_kRiddell, that and some configure.in.in stuff... and without the configure goodies, it doesn't compile. I'll turn it into a patch :)12:20
seth_kthat's why I didn't just copy debian/ dir before, b/c it changed other stuff12:21
seth_kand I hadn't done one of those before, where it wasn't either a simple uupdate -u or debian/ copy12:21
alleeseth_k: what pkgs are you talking about?12:22
seth_kallee, this is Krusader 1.60.0-3 from Debian12:23
=== allee mess check-buildprep and branchpull diffs
alleeare the makefile changes in a file called 98_buildprep.diff?12:23
=== allee download the diff
alleeseth_k: maintainer added maintainer mode to configure.in.in.  So he had to rerun make -f Makefile.cvs 12:29
seth_kallee, yeah, I saw that after my build failed complaining about maintainer mode. Should I make that change in a patch?12:30
alleeseth_k: well I prefer all changes as debian/patches/XX_describe_wnat_I_do.diff12:32
seth_kyep12:32
seth_kthat was my plan, so I guess I'll go ahead and do it that way12:32
alleeseth_k: do you know the create-buildprep script?12:33
seth_kallee, no12:34
alleeits in alioth pkg-kde repo in scripts.12:34
Flosoftwhat is the command for a dist upgrade with apt?12:34
alleeapt-get dist-upgrade12:34
alleeseth_k: you apply it to a clean source + debian dir.  run make -f Makefile.am and places everything in debian/patches/98_buildprep.diff12:35
alleeseth_k: this way you always have those hundreds of autogenerated hunk in one diff file.12:36
Riddellcan't say I see much advantage in 98_buildprep.diff myself12:36
Riddellmake -f Makefile.cvs, not .am12:36
Riddellor admin/Makefile.common12:37
alleeRiddell: ops right.12:37
Flosoftwell ... nite @ all12:38
alleeRiddell: when one lsdiff of diffstat on krusader diff the advantage of build_prep.diff is obvious.12:38
alleeah, and after build_pref.diff is filtered out, interdiff is usable again too.12:41
alleenevertheless everyone has his own like/dislikes.12:41
alleenite all, seth_k wish you much success ;)12:42
seth_kokay Riddell, almost done now. I patched de.po and configure.in.in with patches in debian/patches :)12:45
Riddellawooga12:45
seth_know I just need to make sure it makes a .pot file12:46
=== seth_k compiles to see
Riddellhave you edited debian/rules for it?  (or is it cdbs?)12:46
seth_kI just added in cdbs, to do my patches12:46
seth_kso that's what I'll use12:46
seth_kbut what was the part about "If you use cdbs in dapper your package should now do this automatically"12:47
seth_kI don't have to make any more changes other than just adding in cdbs?12:47
Riddellif you use the kde.mk file that'll include the rules to make the .pot12:48
Riddellotherwise you need to add them, you can just copy them12:48
seth_kpreference?12:48
Riddelland you need the patch for cvs.sh12:48
Riddellif it's a KDE package I'd expect it to use kde.mk anyway12:48
seth_kok12:49
=== seth_k adds the Debian bug number in changelog for bonus points
seth_kand CVE-2005-3856 for the win12:49
seth_kRiddell, do I keep the name kubuntu_01_kdepot.diff and just put that file in debian/patches ?12:53
Riddellseth_k: yes12:53
Riddellseth_k: assuming it applies, there's lots of different versions of cvs.sh you may have to adapt it12:53
seth_ksure12:53
seth_kand I don't see any kde.mk12:54
Riddellin /usr/share/cdbs/..12:54
seth_kright, but it's not included in debian.rules, that means I should include it?12:54
seth_k*debian/rules12:54
Riddellcould do, we don't want to deviate too much from debian but then we already have with this package so may as well12:56
seth_kok12:56
Riddelland e-mail the debian maintainer, politely tell him how to package properly :)12:56
seth_khaha, will do01:01
seth_kokay, I ended up applying the cvs.sh changes by hand into a new patch, because the admin/ directory was a bit older than your patch's version01:02
Riddellnot too surprising01:02
seth_kAll right, now only one more thing. I need to make -f Makefile.cvs, how do I do that without dirtying my pristine source01:21
Riddellmy way would be to dirty the pristine source, allee's way would be to take a copy, make -f Makefile.cvs and diff -urN the two and put that in 98_buildprep.diff01:21
seth_khow about using cdbs-edit-patch, won't that watch the difference for me and make a diff?01:22
Riddellshould do yes01:22
seth_kok :)01:22
seth_kI'm totally a fan of pristine source, but is that just overkill in your opinion? It *is* going to increase the ubuntu1 diff size considerably01:25
Riddellnot really any way around that01:26
raphinkRiddell: did you have the time to look at some of my packages?01:29
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KnowerrorsHey all, Im stuck on a modem connection and just spent alot of time upgrading to kde 3.5 to have it not work proper on some things... can I use the K 5.10 cd to downgrade?01:44
Riddellyes01:45
Knowerrorshow would I do that?01:46
Riddellremove libqt3-mt01:47
Riddellremove kubuntu.org from sources.list01:47
Riddellput in CD, apt-cdrom it, install kubuntu-desktop01:47
KnowerrorsIm not sure it will solve my issues though, so I got on here as a last ditch to try to fix things manually01:50
KnowerrorsRiddel: prob#1- going to system settings, I am unable to change settings for gtk-looknfeel, and storage media notifications...01:51
KnowerrorsRiddel: prob#2- kde mounts things in system:/media, but I can't browse files there, I must go to /media/ to browse them01:52
RiddellI can't recreate either problem02:01
raphinkKnowerrors: fresh install?02:03
raphinkgone :(02:03
raphinkRiddell: did you have the time to look at some of my packages?02:03
=== raphink is heavily insisting :s
Riddellraphink: doing now02:03
raphinkRiddell: thanks :)02:03
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raphinkwb Knowerrors 02:04
raphinkKnowerrors: what is your install history?02:04
raphinkis it fresh?02:04
KnowerrorsIve had this install running for about 4 months or so02:04
KnowerrorsI started with kubuntu 5.1002:04
raphinkhmm02:05
raphinkkubuntu 5.10 was released less than 4 months ago02:05
raphinkas stable I mean02:05
raphink;)02:05
raphinkit's the last stable version, released in october02:05
raphink(as the 10 indicates)02:05
Knowerrorshmm, it feels like longer ;)02:06
raphinkhaha02:06
raphinkso you basically didn't dist-upgrade it02:06
Knowerrorscorrectamundo02:06
raphinkor had it through big upgrades02:06
Riddellraphink: kyamo fails to compile02:07
Riddellmake[3] : *** No rule to make target `kyamo.pot', needed by `all-am'.  Stop.02:07
raphinkreally?02:07
raphink:(02:07
raphinkinsteresting02:07
raphinkI'll have a look at it02:07
raphinkit's rc3 right Riddell ?02:07
Riddellyes02:08
Riddellfrom revu02:08
Knowerrorswhen I first did my install, I enabled root for a couple days cause I was used to regular Debian and missed root, then someone told me that was bad and I turned it off02:08
raphinkweird02:08
raphinkI'll check it02:08
raphinkI'll try it in my pbuilder02:09
Knowerrorsever since then, I had problems with the kcontrol not keeping certain settings, unless I ran it as sudo kcontrol from cli02:09
raphinkI'm pretty sure I had tried it in a pbuilder before uploading it though02:09
raphinkKnowerrors: put root again and don't use it02:09
raphinknever know if that helps ;)02:10
Knowerrorshehe, yeah tried that already :(02:10
raphinkdoesn't work?02:10
raphinklet's see... pbuilder updated02:12
Riddellraphink: where is the postinstall file from in kubuntu-grub-splash?02:12
Riddellraphink: and are all the files definatly GPL?02:12
raphinkthe files are GPL (checked on kde-apps.org)02:13
raphinkand the postinst is in debian/02:13
raphinkwas last time I checked ;)02:13
raphinkat least02:13
raphinkargh my internet is sloooooooooow02:13
raphinkgetting crazy with it02:14
seth_kblast it Riddell, this package is on crack :)02:14
seth_k/tmp/buildd/krusader-1.60.1/./krusader/DiskUsage/radialMap/widget.cpp:12:20: error: Config.h: No such file or directory02:14
seth_k/tmp/buildd/krusader-1.60.1/./krusader/DiskUsage/radialMap/widget.cpp:13:19: error: debug.h: No such file or directory02:14
seth_k/tmp/buildd/krusader-1.60.1/./krusader/DiskUsage/radialMap/widget.cpp:14:22: error: fileTree.h: No such file or directory02:14
seth_kI've applied patches to let it build on gcc4 already02:14
raphinkRiddell: kubuntu-grub-splashimages.postinst is the postinstall02:15
raphinkI knwo using the package name is not mandatory ;)02:15
Riddellraphink: but did you write it?02:15
raphinkKnowerrors: maybe you could ask in `norma' help channels 02:15
raphinkRiddell: yes I did, why?02:15
Knowerrorsraphink: whats 'norma' ?02:15
raphinkKnowerrors: s/norma/normal/02:15
raphinkRiddell: don't like it?02:16
raphinkKnowerrors: here is a development channel, normal help channels such as #kubuntu might be nicer for your issue02:16
Knowerrorsyou mean #kubuntu?02:16
raphinkimo02:16
Riddellraphink: it's just that if I'm to review this properly I should probably try and understand the script, which I don't feel like doing just now02:16
Riddellraphink: can you describe to me what it does briefly?02:16
Knowerrorsright, yeah, Ive been asking there too but nobody knows02:16
raphinkRiddell: sure02:17
Riddellseth_k: do you get that error with the pristine sources?02:17
raphink1) it tests if grub was installed properly, by testing /boot/grub/device.map02:17
raphinkif device.map doesn't exit, it exits the script02:17
seth_kRiddell, I tried it with pristine + patch and with dirty source02:17
seth_kRiddell, maybe it's a KDE 3.5 incompatibility? That's the only similar explanation I can find on their forums02:17
Riddellseth_k: and do you always get that error?02:18
raphink2) if device.map exists, it guesses the grub partition using it with a dh -f to get the partition for /boot, so as to know where the splashimages are installed02:18
seth_kas in every time I try the build? yes02:18
raphink3) it installs the the splashimage line in grub.conf from these infos02:18
Riddellseth_k: do those header files exist?02:18
KnowerrorsRiddle, is there a way to just reload the default settings for all of kde 3.5 and or kubuntu?02:18
raphinkRiddell: the old grub.conf is saved with a date stamp02:19
raphinkand I use a safe temp file for the modifications on grub.conf02:19
seth_kRiddell, yes, all three exist02:19
seth_kRiddell, they exist in /krusader/DiskUsage/filelightParts/ though...02:20
seth_kso weird02:20
seth_kRiddell, should I put commands in rules to copy them, or to move them?02:21
=== raphink is confused about kyamo :(
Riddellraphink: seth_k patch it to #include <../foo.h>02:23
Riddellseth_k rather02:23
raphinkhehe02:23
Riddellraphink: tried running make -f Makefile.cvs over it?02:23
seth_kRiddell, isn't the problem that it's looking in the wrong place, though?02:23
Riddellraphink: or removing the .pot, doing that then compiling?02:23
raphinkhmm nope 02:23
raphinkI'm having a look02:23
raphinkI'm trying to get the source just in case02:23
seth_kRiddell, because it's apparently trying to find the header files02:23
raphinkbut y internet is too slow02:24
raphinkright now02:24
Riddellseth_k: well it's trying to find them and doesn't know where they are so you need to fix the #include02:24
Riddellraphink: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1027 konq-encrypt-menu approved with comments02:25
raphinkthanks 02:25
RiddellI'm off to bed02:25
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seth_knight Riddell, thanks a lot... I hope to have a fixed krusader on REVU to greet you in the morn :)02:25
raphinkRiddell: well if I change compat you'll have to advocate again ;)02:25
raphinkno?02:25
raphinkI have to fix kyamo tonight aswell :)02:26
Riddellraphink: it's not requited in my rule book, but it's not hard for me to tick a box again02:26
raphinkjust checked rc2 would build fine02:26
raphinkso I have to to find what's wrong with rc302:26
raphinkRiddell: ok :)02:26
raphinkrc3 builds fine from source02:27
raphinkso theres something there ;)02:27
raphinkthat I have to find 02:27
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seth_kahhhhhhhh05:13
seth_ki swear this compile is on crack, it's asking for files that don't even exist05:13
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viviersfRiddell : PING08:01
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sebasRiddell: (re: pyqt tutorial dot story) Please go ahead :) I wasn't sure myself wether to submit it or not.09:24
sebasOk, checked the dot now :>09:24
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Flosofthey @ all10:11
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jpatrickraphink: ping11:23
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raphinkyop jpatrick 11:27
jpatrickraphink: thanks for the review11:28
jpatrickI've uploaded a updated package now : http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=109211:28
raphinkpfiew just woke up :s11:28
jpatrick:) like me11:29
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raphinklol11:30
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raphinkjpatrick: you can add a newline between the long description and the homepage in debian/control. this line should only contain a space and a dot.11:34
jpatrickdone11:36
raphinkjpatrick: this is a small detail, but you don't have to cut lines @ 60 characters or so in the descriptions. It's 80 chars max11:36
raphinkso the long description can fit on 3 lines11:36
raphinkwhen you're in a 80 chars wide console, you like to have as few lines as possible in your output ;)11:37
jpatricklong des. = 2 lines ?11:37
raphinkwell if you put them on 80 cols yes11:38
jpatrickthat's done too11:38
jpatrick:)11:38
raphinkgood :)11:38
jpatrickthat should do it?11:39
raphinkyou'll have to explain me about the .pot file, since I'm getting crazy on packaging kyamo 0.13rc311:40
raphinkit says there's no rule to build a pot file11:40
jpatrickI'm just doing what it says on KubuntuPackagingGuide :/11:40
raphinkoh good I'll hav a look thanks :)11:40
raphinkjpatrick: just the last point : how about the desktop file?11:42
raphinkoh ic it in misc11:42
raphinkdoh11:42
raphinkforget about it :(11:42
raphinkhehe11:43
jpatrickraphink: yeah I forgot to tell you that..11:43
raphinkthat's ok11:43
jpatrickreuploading src package11:43
jpatrickfinished :)11:43
raphinkgood11:44
raphinkI'll build it and put a comment ;)11:44
jpatrickraphink: thanks :)11:45
jpatrickshouldn't it build-dep on debhelper ?11:48
raphinkjpatrick: 11:49
raphinkdh_testdir11:49
raphinkmake: dh_testdir: Command not found11:49
raphinkmake: *** [clean]  Error 12711:49
raphinkpbuilder: Failed autobuilding of package11:49
raphinkdoesn't build11:49
jpatrick:?11:49
raphinkso yes you need debhelper in the build-dep11:49
raphinkI'll bb11:49
raphinkadd debhelper to the build dep and try to build it in a pbuilder11:50
raphinkI'll at it after that11:50
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jpatrickraphink: reuploaded11:53
jpatrickbrb11:53
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raphinkjpat|away: debhelper (<<4.1) please12:01
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raphinkjpat|away: sorry debhelper (>>4.1) hehe12:06
raphinkgna12:06
jpatrickraphink: done12:12
raphinkjpatrick: looks fine :)12:29
raphinkask a MOTU to advocate it12:30
jpatrickRiddell: ping12:30
raphinkhehe12:30
raphinkRiddell: I changed compat in kubuntu-grub-splashimages. Should I change the debhelper version in build-dep too?12:31
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Riddelljpatrick: hi01:19
jpatrickRiddell: could you look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1095 , please ?01:22
FlosoftRiddell: did you add the beta download?01:26
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alleejpat|away: ping01:45
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freeflyingRiddell:  hi01:53
freeflyingRiddell:  I've reloaded skim to revu today, plz have a look01:53
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jpatrickallee: i'm here02:29
alleeah, hi02:29
alleejpatrick: Great to see people workong on KubuntuPackaging!02:30
alleebut I think the copyright section is more than simplified02:31
alleee.g., every copyright notice if source, translation and docs need to be listed and even in simple pkgs there are more than 102:32
alleecopyright contain copyrights and distribution licenses and beside standard (L)GPL, artistic etc one has to include the complete text, eg. GDFL that is usually used in handbooks02:33
jpatrickyes...02:33
alleedo you plan to add these 'important' details?  Or should I add them.02:34
alleeI don't want step on your feet ;)02:35
jpatrickMaybe you should02:35
allee'k I see if I find some time this weekend.02:35
alleebtw. you used compat 5 in filelight so debhelper has to be >> 5 ;)02:36
jpatrickah yes02:38
jpatrickreuploaded to REVU02:40
alleeand version 1.0beta6 is bigger than 1.0 :(  So maybe 1.0final but what if there's an rc1? So maybe 1.0+beta6 and later 1.0.002:43
alleewhy did you remove debian/menu?  It should be included for the people using purists desktop env ;)02:45
jpatrickso it should be filelight-1.0+beta6 ?02:47
alleeno manpage and, can't check right now, I think the docs are installed into the wrong dir02:48
alleeyes. but then, if you want to avoid epochs, you have to use 1.0.0 even when upstream calls it 1.0 ;)02:49
alleeother use 0.9.9+1.0beta6 then 1.0.02:50
jpatrickokay02:50
alleejpatrick: your friend is: dpkg --compare-versions oldvers lt nextvers && echo okay   02:51
jpatrick?02:54
alleedpkg --compare-versions 1.0beta6 lt 1.0  && echo okay    --> outputs nothing :(02:55
jpatrick:(02:56
alleedpkg --compare-versions 1.0beta6 lt 1.0.0 && echo okay  --> print okay02:56
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alleeneed a pbuilder test but I bet autoconf and automake 1.9 are no build-deps.03:00
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alleejpatrick: grep -Ri copyright src doc po misc | grep -v Makefile    # You missed at least Micheal03:09
alleelicensecheck tool does not help much too. Max does not use the standard blurbs :(03:10
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jpatrickallee: uploaded changes03:28
alleejpatrick: sorry busy right now03:33
raphinkok I'm pretty sure this is a pb with cdbs or so03:35
alleeraphink: ?03:37
raphinkallee: look in #ubuntu-motu03:41
allee'k03:41
raphinkoh no you're not there03:41
raphinkwell then03:41
raphinkhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.com/45545903:41
raphinkthere allee ^^03:41
raphinka package of mine fails to build03:42
raphinkit built ok before03:42
alleenow i'm in ;)03:42
raphinknow it doesn't anymore03:42
raphink./configure && make works fine03:42
raphinkbut if I run dpkg-buildpackage I get this error, and after that `./configure && make' doesn't work anymore03:42
alleestrange.  interdiff off first and the second run.  po/de not writeable?03:46
=== Riddell appologies for the delay in service today, caused by multiple xpdf nonsense
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seth_k|awaymorning Riddell 04:24
Riddellbah humbug04:25
seth_kI fixed a ton of the krusader errors, but now it is saying "file not found" on a file that doesn't even exist in the source tree04:25
Riddellthat's not nice of it04:25
seth_knope04:25
seth_kit asks for actionpropertybase.h04:26
seth_kbut the only file similar is actionpropertybase.cpp04:26
Riddellupload to revu and I'll try and take a look at it sometime this decade04:26
seth_khehe, alright04:26
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Riddellwaa!  that's never enough time to sort out all these problems in xpdf!04:27
freeflying_Riddell: hi04:29
Riddellhi freeflying_ 04:30
freeflying_Riddell:  have you got my message here04:30
RiddellI'll look at skim too in a bit, thanks for keeping working on it, we'll get there soon :)04:30
freeflying_Riddell:  how can we get all articles of wiki.kubuntu.org04:32
seth_kuploaded Riddell, I hope xpdf doesn't eat you first04:32
sebasRiddell: Wasn't that fixed with the new freetype? (Or are you referrring to all those overflows in there? :D)04:33
jpatrickwow!04:33
jpatricknice design04:33
Riddellfreeflying_: not too sure I'm afraid, you probably need to ask henrik  henrik@ubuntu.com04:35
freeflying_Riddell: thx04:36
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Flosofthow is the support of webcams in Kubuntu?07:29
Riddellno idea07:30
Flosofthmm07:31
Flosoftwhat about adding the new kvirc package?07:35
Flosoftthe version in Synaptic: 2.1.3.1 ... current: 3.2.007:35
jpatrickFlosoft: Dapper verison == 3.2.007:36
Flosoftnice :)07:36
Flosoftdoes dapper work with KDE 3.5?07:37
jpatrickFlosoft: Dapper has 3.507:37
Flosoftok07:37
jpatrickhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=kvirc&searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all07:37
Flosoftwhat is the difference if I change my sources from breezy to dapper?07:37
jpatrickFlosoft: new kernel, new Xorg, new KDE07:37
Flosoftok07:38
Flosoftso I could delete the kde extra source i have for 3.5 @ the moment?07:38
jpatrickyou can keep it...07:38
jpatrickI'm not on Dapper, becuase modprobe kept segmentfaulting here07:40
Flosoftow ... well ... i'll wait a bit too :p07:40
Flosofti'm quite happy with breezy07:40
jpatrickI'll go back when Flight-2's out07:40
Flosoftmy only software that is missing is kvirc07:40
Flosoftcan't it be added to breezy?07:40
jpatrickFlosoft: Backports07:41
Flosoftyes 07:42
jpatrickit will probably end up there07:42
Flosoftwill it be backported?07:42
jpatrickmight07:43
Flosoft:)07:43
jpatrickmy ksplash-engine-moodin package did07:43
jpatrick:)07:43
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Flosoftwhat is the programm that loads the boot logo?07:54
Flosoftit isn't splash07:54
jpatrickFlosoft: usplash07:55
Flosoftok07:55
Flosoftwill there be a new bootsplash with dapper?07:58
jjesseone that is a little brighter hopefully08:00
Flosoftyes08:00
Flosoftwell like the login screen background08:00
Flosoftand how do you see the console while booting?08:03
FlosoftF2 doesn't work08:03
FlosoftESC neither08:04
jjesseFlosoft: no clue 08:05
Tm_Thumm08:22
Tm_TI don't use usplash08:22
Tm_Tbut yes, dapper will have usplash themes too08:23
Flosoft:)08:25
Tm_Twe planned to do similar look from boot to Gnome desktop08:26
Tm_Tprolly same to Kubuntu side08:26
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