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angasuleI can't record anything with my microphone (it does work, though), if I mute/unmute from the mixer I get proper feedback in my headphones, but programs don't seem to get any input12:04
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Firetechapachelogger: you and heineken...12:06
Firetechis kubuntu somewhat nearer your perfect "blue linux" distro?12:06
apacheloggerFiretech: not yet, but I'll work on ;-)12:07
Firetech:P12:07
Firetechgoodnight everyone...12:07
Hobbseenight Firetech12:07
apacheloggerkood nikht12:07
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nrdbHi I am trying to get the DVD player working again!  It worked once last night but isn't working this morning. See http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/454798 for error details.12:15
apacheloggerthe dvd player = ?12:16
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apacheloggerFATAL[ogle_audio] : failed opening the oss audio driver at /dev/dsp12:16
nrdbapachelogger: okle12:16
apacheloggeryour player must suck12:16
apacheloggerstart with -> aoss okle12:16
apacheloggeror shutdown every other sound application before starting okle12:17
nrdbapachelogger: I figgered it is something to with sound but KDE sound is working so is aplay.12:17
nrdbapachelogger: 'aoss okle' = command not found.12:17
apacheloggerah you have to install the oss wrapper for alsa12:19
apacheloggernrdb: I really think it's easier to just use an alsa player with libdvdcss12:19
apacheloggerlike xine/codeine/kaffeine12:20
nrdbapachelogger: there is a but with kaffeine it just uses all cpu power and slowly uses all RAM.12:21
apacheloggerO.o12:22
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apacheloggeroho12:22
apacheloggerthat's TOTALLY strange12:22
apacheloggernrdb: also happens when using the default xine interface?12:22
nrdbapachelogger: xine isn't installed.12:23
apacheloggeroh12:23
apacheloggernrdb: gst sux12:23
apacheloggerinstall the kaffeine-xine engine12:23
nrdbapachelogger: ok12:24
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apacheloggerdeb ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu breezy main12:24
apacheloggernrdb: this repo provides libdvdcss0 ... after installing this you should be able to play dvds with xine/codeine/kaffeine12:25
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sampanheh, i have a kaffeine bug too actually ... whenever i click a vid file in konq and kaffeine runs, the process continues after i quit kaffeine -- i have to manuall kill it at cli12:26
sampans/manuall/manually12:26
apacheloggersampan: also using the gstreamer engine?12:26
sampanno, i'm using kaffeine-xine12:27
apacheloggeruhh12:27
apacheloggerevil bug12:27
sampanyeah -- it's kinda weird ... i don't watch that many vids on the pc, so it's not a huge problem, but kinda weird still12:27
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nrdbapachelogger: I installed 'kaffeine-xine' nothing has changed 100% cpu and slowly consumes all RAM.12:28
sampanit doesn't happen if i launch kaffeine and then open the file from within the app itself, so i suspect it must be something with konq opening it12:28
apacheloggernrdb: you're on breezy?12:28
nrdbapachelogger: yes KDE 3.512:29
apacheloggerhm12:29
apacheloggerdma is active?12:29
nrdbapachelogger: how do I check?12:29
apacheloggerkaffeine's first-start-thing12:29
apacheloggerstart with -> kaffeine -w12:30
nrdbapachelogger: when I start kaffeine there is no meation of DMA12:30
jedahow do I find out what version of kde I am running (breezy 5.10) kubuntu12:32
apacheloggernrdb: kaffeine -w12:32
Insom-jeda: help -> about kde in most apps12:32
sampanjeda, one way: kmenu --> help --> help tab --> about KDE12:32
apacheloggerjeda: kde-config --version12:32
nrdbjeda: start an app and look in the help->kde12:32
nrdbapachelogger: dma is off.12:33
apacheloggernrdb: better activate it12:33
jedaapachelogger: Thanks was wanting cli way12:34
apachelogger:)12:34
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apacheloggernrdb: if this doesn't help it something with your drivers ... btw you have to tell kaffeine to use the xine engine12:34
apacheloggergonna reboot12:34
PsySinewhat is the problem when gam_server leaks a lot of memory?12:35
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nrdbapachelogger: it didn't help, how do you tell kaffeine to use the xine engine?12:36
sampannrdb, in kaffeine: settings --> player engine ... and choose xine12:37
sampanor rather, just "kaffeine" (as opposed to kaffeine-gstreamer)12:37
nrdbsampan: the only choices are "kaffeine" and "kaffeine GStreamer"12:39
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sampanyeah, since you installed "kaffeine-xine" the one you want is just "kaffeine"12:39
erikstiaren't there any good network admin tools in kubuntu like it is in ubuntu?12:41
Insom-on the topic of playing videos.. are there any usable realmedia codecs without installing the official client?12:41
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PsySineInsom-: get the debian w32codecs package12:42
Insom-already have those but both kaffeine and vlc still refuse to play my southpark episodes12:42
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nrdbsampan: that seems to be working, its using a lot of CPU though and skipping a lot of frames.12:43
naliothubotu: tell Insom- about w32codecs12:43
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Insom-nalioth: i've already installed those12:43
Insom-any configuration needed to get them to play?12:44
nrdbubotu: tell me about sound12:44
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dissedanyone who could help me, got a slight problem, i think i messed around with the repositories a bit to much, and when i rebooted i got ubuntu, instead of kubuntu :12:50
dissedcan i go back?12:50
naliothdissed: it's just a splash screen12:51
sampanyes, at the boot screen, you should be able to choose your "session" as KDE, instead of gnome -- you probably just didn't make kde the default (assuming you installed kubuntu-desktop on top of a gnome ubuntu)12:51
dissednope, i got gnome aswell12:51
nrdbdissed: do you have the kubuntu livecd?12:52
dissedyes12:52
fasteaglelol12:53
nrdbdissed: I would expect it to have a default file on it try booting from the livecd and copy it over to the HD12:53
dissedok, thanks12:53
dissed:D12:53
naliothdissed: when you log in, click on "sessions" and choose kde12:53
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dissedok12:53
sampandissed, just ... yeah, what nalioth said12:53
naliothnrdb: the liveCD will not install12:53
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nrdbdissed: I known that, I was sugesting trying to copy just the '/etc/apt/sources.list' file off it.12:54
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dissedworked, thanks again12:55
naliothnrdb: we have all that info in the bot here, no need to jump through hoops12:55
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Bizzehhey, how do i set up kubuntu on a 2nd partition, so it DOESNT kill the windows boot loader in the mbr01:05
neoncodeHey I just installed the windows version of firefox useing WINE and it carn't connect to any websites.01:05
Bizzehuse linux firefox01:05
neoncodeBizzeh: I do but flash player is crappy in it and there's no shockwave01:06
Bizzehneoncode: they are just as crap in the windows one01:07
Bizzehits xpi that sucks01:07
neoncodeBizzeh: Yea, but their's flash player 8 for windows and not for linux and like i said, Shockwave.01:08
Bizzehneoncode: it has 8, but its really unstable01:09
neoncodeBizzeh: See? That's why I might as well use the windows version runing on WINE.01:09
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neoncodeSo, why won't it connect to anywere?01:10
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Bizzehit doesnt like wine?01:14
Bizzehit uses stupid undocumented api to "prove a point"01:15
Bizzehstuff that is undocumented for a reason01:15
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KnowerrorsHey all, Im stuck on a modem connection and just spent alot of time upgrading to kde 3.5 to have it not work proper on some things... can I use the K 5.10 cd to downgrade?01:44
PokerFacePenguinwhere does the info get read from when you click on the "system button"?  it says /media, but the stuff in there doesnt display01:45
apacheloggerKnowerrors: sure01:45
apacheloggerjust remove or comment-out the kde 3.5 in the sources.list01:46
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SgepHow do I prevent /etc/resolv.conf from resetting itself?01:47
Knowerrorsapachelogger: Id need to comment out everything to use the cd right?01:47
PokerFacePenguinsystem button >> storage media shows the /media directory but nothing that is actually in that directory displays...why?01:47
apacheloggerKnowerrors: nope just every repo which provides KDE packages01:48
apacheloggerso probably only the one you used for installing 3.501:48
dennis_pyeah kicker bombs on log out and I cannot switch back touser with multiple KDE user accounts in KDE 3.501:49
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dennis_pso deactivate KDE35 repositories in adept, apply below and update at top of window. And then? Full upgrade does a downgrade?01:52
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Knowerrorshehe, dennis_p so youre gonna downgrade too eh?  I prob wait til 3.5.2 or so to try it again... unless I can fix things in half an hour01:54
KnowerrorsI have a bad feeling things will still be screwed, and I'll have to reinstall from base01:54
poimenwhat is the problem with 3.5?01:56
dennis_pYeah, downgrade and see if that helps, mythtv and hauppauge remote work great btw01:56
poimenmine works nice01:56
dennis_pKDE 3.5 seems not fully optimized for kubuntu yet, maybe it's not even 3.5 I'll see after the downgrade01:57
Knowerrorspoimen: , kde mounts things in system:/media, but I can't browse files there, I must go to /media/ to browse them01:57
poimenohh01:58
poimenI never use that lol I make shortcuts to all devices using the real link :)01:59
Knowerrorsfor example, I plug in a usb drive, kde pops up asking what to do, I select open in new window, it opens konq to system:/media to mount, but still says unmounted, then I click on it again, and its says its already mounted01:59
poimenor /media/media-hd   or /media/sda701:59
poimenlol01:59
Knowerrors"/media/sda1"01:59
poimenwell my kubuntu does not have usb or sd card reader support :(02:00
Knowerrorsheh, did you see that poimen? I hate forgeting to not start a line with /02:00
Knowerrorshmm, have problems with cds too though02:00
poimen:D02:01
poimenMandriva works better with my hardware but I like more the apt package maneger :)02:01
dennis_pSo adept does it not downgrade? Have to type somthing in terminal? like "apt-get dist-downgrade" or something?02:01
poimendennis_p I dont kwon :(02:03
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poimenlol02:04
poimenkanotiz is not a live cd?02:04
poimenbtw I use x86_6402:04
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dennis_pyeah live cd which installs full debian to harddisk if you want and supports x86_6402:05
dennis_pBut most support is in German of course02:05
poimen:(02:06
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poimenI speak english and spanish only02:06
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chopehi, after installing the latest nvidia drivers and rebooting, I get this message "the nvidia kernel module is version 1.0.7667, but this x module is version 1.0.8174... failed to initialize the nvidia kernel module!", should i get the 1.0.7667 drivers?02:08
dennis_penglish can do but never mention (k)ubuntu, he was first with a debian made easy, try it and come back for kubuntu dapper and see if your hardware support has improved.02:09
Stelethere are newer drivers I think that should remove the old ones for you02:09
poimendennis_p I dont kwon i am lazzy to install again lol02:10
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dennis_phehe if you don't realy need it don't try to fix it :-)02:12
poimenwell I need it but not just right now02:13
poimenlike in a weak I will and for real :(02:13
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poimenI will need my usb for a printer02:14
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Citydogtesting02:15
poimendennis_p  u like more kanotix?02:16
poimenwhy?02:16
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dennis_pno I like kubuntu it has easy mythtv instructions and a way bigger english community02:16
dennis_pbut true kanotix was easier to install,  maybe next kubuntu will also have a graphic install straight from live cd, they are working on it02:18
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KnowerrorsIs there a way to just reload the default settings for all of kde 3.5 and or kubuntu?02:19
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alxjvrhello, what devt tools do i need to install so i can compile/install from source certain apps/services like apache2, mysql, etc?02:20
alxjvrof course, gcc, autoconf, what else?02:20
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apacheloggeralxjvr: actually everything the apps/services like apache2, mysql, etc tell you02:22
apacheloggerread the README and the INSTALL and if this is not enough the build script will probably shout if something's missing02:22
alxjvrapachelogger: thanks, got a tip from #ubuntu: build-essentials02:22
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Insom-almost done migrating from windows to linux :)02:24
apacheloggeralmost done migration from suse to kubuntu :P02:24
Insom-that's probably a lot faster02:25
Insom-had to convert 500GB of data due to missing ntfs write support02:26
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dennis_palmost went to suse but then they said we have been taken over be noobs and marketing says that linux and openoffice are all the buzzwords you need. :-)02:26
apacheloggerInsom-: yeah, I just had to backup 100 gigs, so quite faster :|02:28
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Insom-why? couldn't you just resize partitions if needed and read them from kubuntu?02:28
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apacheloggerit could but I redisgned everything and I hate spreading due to partitioning02:29
Insom-what about deleting the suse system files and not making a new filesystem before installing kubuntu?02:30
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Insom-i agree with you on the partitioning part though :)02:31
apacheloggerlosing configurations is the worse thing for a linux user02:31
Insom-tar them?02:31
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Insom-i'm pondering buying a new computer and running everything from ram..02:32
Insom-throw in some prelinking and it should fly02:33
Knowerrorstry Puppy linux or dsl or one of the other usb based linuxes, then it would scream02:33
Knowerrorsor at least use Xubuntu instead02:34
Insom-i don't want to sacrifice usability for speed02:34
apacheloggerInsom-: well I tared and bz2ed ... took about 5 hours02:34
dennis_pwait till Apple releases nand flash boot system and soon after linux will also have fast diskless boot02:35
Insom-my /bin /sbin /lib and their /usr counterparts are 1.05gb total... 2GB of ram should about do it02:35
Insom-why wait for what already can be viably done?02:37
dennis_pwell usb is slow, maybe soon after people get the idea and there will be cheap pci-e nand card for fast linux boot?02:39
Insom-why? just stick in more ram02:40
Insom-loading 1gb from compressed disk images is fast as well and you'll need a hd anyway for large amounts of storage02:42
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dennis_pHow about emergency safe to nand at powercut and instant reboot when power comes back on without real powerbackup system?02:46
Insom-should be just as safe as a hd02:47
Insom-maybe a little safer because a disk cache might not be needed02:47
dennis_pso there you are, not possible today without a big battery system but could be cheap.02:48
Insom-i long for the day i can plug in a usb or similar stick into any pc and have my os, settings and documents loaded in a flash02:49
Insom-you can do synchronous i/o with a hd as well02:49
Insom-journaling filesystems also help a great deal02:49
poningruanybody knows a good gaming mobo for under 20002:51
poningru ?02:51
poningrulalallalallalalaal02:52
Insom-depends on what you're looking for02:52
Insom-i'm going for a mini-itx mobo for my next sytem02:53
Insom-system*02:53
naliothInsom-: not a micro-atx?02:54
dennis_pI would have liked a full atx mobo in a black desktop (instead of a tower) which looks ok next to stereo set02:54
Insom-nalioth: probably got those mixed up in my head02:55
naliothInsom-: the micro-atx is the one that fits in your glove02:55
Insom-i'm looking for small, silent and full featured in my next system02:55
Insom-yeah i probably meant micro-atx02:55
dennis_pi wanted big and silent :-)02:55
Insom-i found a nice gigabyte micro-atx mobo for around $100 which i'm planning to put in a aopen h360 case (microatx case which can also has feet for use as a tower)02:56
dennis_pbought a hd silencer container, don't even need it because of Sonata's rubber HD holder system :-)02:58
Insom-2 or 4gb of ram and i'll have portable power :)02:58
Insom-sonata isn't that big02:59
Insom-take a look at the coolermaster stacker02:59
Insom-with room for 16 hd's it makes a nice fileserver :)03:00
dennis_pwhat you think i run a DVD copy shop or something :-) and the steel doesn't look very livingroom friendly03:03
dennis_pUnless of course your a person who parks a moterbike next to the telly in the livingroom03:07
dennis_pmmmm, Jessica Alba03:08
Steleshe's my sister03:08
dennis_pMhm, being a nerd boyfriend with a exoskeleton suit03:09
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Insom-:P03:11
dennis_pHey, a Dutch guy is getting a exoskeleton suit. Who needs a wheelchair that can ride on two wheels, that is like so outdated now.03:11
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dennis_pWe also have computer controlled busses that crash into eachother without anybody being on board, I guess Beyond 2000 has arived this month.03:17
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Insom-ja mooie actie was dat03:18
dennis_p:-)03:18
Insom-where in .nl are you dennis_p?03:19
dennis_pnear Hoorn03:20
dennis_ptoo bad they suspended the bus service I wanted to ride those things03:20
Insom-with or without the crashing part?03:21
dennis_pGuess I'll have to settle for Q-parc mini busses03:21
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dennis_pbecause of the crash03:21
Insom-i'll let other people do the testing03:22
Insom-safer that way03:23
dennis_poh wanted to ride them safely of course. I always go to the back of the train when entering between Amsterdam and Sloterdijk. Better to be a hero then a victim.03:23
Insom-true, true03:24
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KnowerrorsHey all, I currently have kde 3.5 installed, how do I reinstall all the kde from the cd easily, to downgrade?  I tried apt-cdrom and then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, which didn't do it03:27
dennis_pKnowerrors: I don't either sorry03:29
Insom-having problems with 3.5?03:30
Insom-what isn't working on your system? i'm pondering upgrading to 3.503:30
dennis_pYeah, big icons mess up their name.03:30
dennis_pkicker crashes on log out03:31
dennis_pcan't use multiple KDE logins03:31
Insom-hrm03:31
Insom-i'll wait for 3.5.103:31
Insom-my 3.4.3 is mostly working03:31
Insom-kde menu is read only for some reason03:32
Insom-can't add/remove anything03:32
dennis_pBut then Kubuntu maintainers do not fully support KDE 3.5 yet so maybe its just some linking errors03:32
Insom-other than that.. i'm happy with 3.4.303:32
frank23Knowerrors: using synaptic you can downgrade packages03:36
dennis_pYeah bt which packages, can it do a full downgrade to most up to date version in active repositories?03:38
frank23dennis_p: I don't know....  you could probably do it by hand though.03:40
dennis_pmaybe the kubuntu kde beta wiki has downgrade instructions still on, I'll check that tommorow. I need some sleep now03:40
jsubl2Knowerrors,  http://wiki.kubuntu.org/DowngradeHowto?highlight=%28downgrade%2903:43
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dennis_pThanks and goodnight and keep safe on trains near Amsterdam they've also started construction of a hangover hotel, a single dropped bar will wreck half the train.03:44
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nowisnhello there03:51
nowisnhow do i setup my ethernet pcmcia adapter so i can connect to the internet?03:58
nowisni have a 10/100 pc card model #pcmpc100 linksys03:59
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Insom-start the cardbus service if it isn't started04:00
Insom-then configure as usual04:01
Insom-oh he left04:02
Insom-too bad for him04:02
musashidenhmmm04:04
musashidenhow do i define the new codecs to kaffeine?04:04
musashideni cant find that option anywhere :/04:04
Insom-gstreamer codecs? in that case: gst-register-0.8 (or similar)04:05
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musashidenInsom-: thanks buddy04:05
musashidenoh, wait. iam still getting the same error :s04:06
musashidenThere were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins04:06
musashidenand i did04:06
musashideni copied all the plugins to /usr/lib/win3204:07
Insom-take a look at the kaffeine options.. does it use the gstreamer engine?04:07
Insom-i'm not sure whether gstreamer picks up the w32codecs04:07
musashidenerm, how can i change the engine then?04:07
Insom-in the options04:07
musashidenand it is using gstreamer04:07
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Insom-i don't know how to register the w32codecs04:08
Insom-if you find out let me know04:08
musashidenall i see in the options is behavior, appearance, DBV client, and misc04:08
Insom-i have several gb of south park episodes i can't watch atm04:08
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Insom-hmm04:09
Insom-i don't know... not using kaffeine myself04:10
musashiden:/04:10
musashideni had it working witht he win32 plugins back in hoary04:10
musashidenwith*04:10
musashidenthe*04:10
Insom-time to search the forum i guess04:10
musashidenit seems they took out A LOT of options out of kaffeine04:11
musashideni cant even change the engine04:11
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Insom-maybe you need to install the kaffeine-gstreamer package04:11
musashidenkaffeine-gstreamer is already the newest version.04:12
Insom-hmm04:12
Insom-i'm out of ideas04:13
jsubl2kaffeine sux  apt-get install mozilla-mplayer04:13
musashidenjsubl2:  how about no?04:14
Insom-E: Couldn't find package mozilla-mplayer04:14
jsubl2musashiden, sorry?? don't understand  mplayer is the best imho.. did not mean to affend anyone04:15
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Insom-jsubl2: where can i get the packages for mplayer?04:15
jsubl2Insom-, if you have enabled universe and multiverse they are there in the repos04:15
Insom-i've enabled those but i still can't find the packages04:16
musashidenjsubl2: well for starters, dont just blast into a conversation saying "kaffeine sux! use ~"04:16
jsubl2musashiden, ok04:16
jsubl2!sources04:17
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic04:17
jsubl2Insom-, try following the info above.. mplayer and mozilla plugin are in the repos04:17
Insom-jsubl2: i've uncommented all repos in the default sources.list and removed the cd entry04:18
BlueEagleinsom-: Good, now read the links from ubotu.04:18
BlueEagleinsom-: Especially the last one iirc.04:19
jsubl2thank you BlueEagle04:19
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Insom-the hoary-extras?04:19
sophie!tell sophie about libcss04:19
BlueEaglejsubl2: Anytime, now when you want to recomend something say that they might want to try it also not to use it instead. Open source software is very much about choices and finding stuff you like. ;D04:20
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sophie!tell sophie about dvd04:20
BlueEagle /msg ubotu !tell sophie about sending /msg to ubotu04:20
jsubl2BlueEagle, i have already apologized for that04:20
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BlueEaglejsubl2: I know. Just felt like burning you for it too. Why should musashiden have all the fun? :p04:21
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musashidenlol, you scared him away04:22
sophiei need on how to watch encrypted dvds04:23
sophieis their a package for libcss on kubuntu04:23
nalioth!libdvdcss204:25
ubotunalioth: Bugger all, i dunno04:25
naliothGRRRR04:25
naliothwhose been tampering with my factoids!?!04:25
nalioth!libdvdcss04:25
ubotulibdvdcss is probably NOT in ubuntu.  Those who even utter its name can expect to be shipped to Guantanamo Bay.  For filthy patent-free Europeans, try /usr/share/doc/libdvdread/examples/install-css.sh04:25
naliothsophie: there you go04:26
sophienalioth: thanls but not installed on my sytem04:27
naliothsophie: yes, my factoid was removed, it had more info04:27
naliothsophie: install libdvdplay04:28
sophienalioth: thanks04:28
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sophienalioth: mplayer dvd is has tons of block artifact04:32
sophienalioth: got message too many vido packets04:32
naliothubotu: tell sophie about dvd04:33
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poimenheh I got my kubuntu running x86-64 and usb working :D04:48
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poimennow I just need a kernel for my pentium D with smp04:48
nowisncan anyone in here help me04:48
poimenI think I will have to compile it my self04:49
nowisni'm in the terminal and i'm trying to get kubuntu to see my network card04:49
poimennowsn whats your problem?04:49
nowisncan't connect to the internet04:49
nowisnnew linux user here04:50
poimennowisn you tryed kcontrol04:50
poimenin kcontrol you have someting called network connection04:50
nowisnno where is that04:50
poimennowisn type kcontrol in a term04:50
poimenterminal*04:51
poimenthat is kde configuration tool04:51
nowisnyes okay its up04:51
poimenlike control panel for windows only more usefull :D04:51
nowisni see04:51
poimengo to network and internet04:52
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poimensorry It is called internet & network04:52
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poimenthen network settings04:52
nowisnyep04:52
poimenin network settings you see a network interface?04:52
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nowisnyes detects eth0 but its greyed out and says disabled ethernet network device04:53
poimenok04:53
poimennow you see above were it says Administrator mode?04:54
poimenclick there and put your password04:54
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nowisnat bottom yes04:54
poimenyes04:54
msimshow do I change the default Xresoultion I've done so for kde04:54
poimensorry my english sucks04:54
nowisnbut wizard pops up with an error04:54
msimshow ever gdm is reall tine04:54
nowisnnp04:54
msimser tiny04:55
nowisnsu returned with an error is what i got04:55
poimennowish you remeber the password you put in the install?04:55
nowisnyes but i cannot get it to work04:55
poimennowish :(04:56
poimennowish humm04:56
poimenstrange you dont have caploscks or something?04:56
poimenbecause that is very simple to activate04:56
nowisnno04:56
poimenok nowish04:56
poimendo this04:56
poimenpress Alt and F204:56
nalioth!xcfg04:57
ubotuI heard xcfg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"04:57
nowisnI even installed it twice to make sure but it still won't use my password04:57
nowisnok04:57
poimenit will show up something that says command type there kcontrol04:57
nowisnalt f2 pressed04:57
nowisnrun command04:58
poimenthen press the options boton that is on the bottom of the window04:58
nowisny04:58
poimenthen put a check mark were it says run as a different user04:58
poimenand leave root there04:58
poimenin password put your password04:58
nowisnyes04:59
poimennow click run04:59
poimenif kcontrol shows up u are saved04:59
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nowisnneeds a command before run will appear?05:00
poimenyou must put kcontrol in the run command line...05:00
poimenddone?05:01
Sneaky_Bastardheya peeps05:01
poimen:)05:01
nowisnna incorrect password05:01
poimen!!!!!!!!!!!105:02
ubotu105:02
poimenwhat version of kubuntu you using?05:02
poimen5.10?05:02
poimenbreezy?05:02
poimenu have a strange problem with your password05:03
nowisnyeah last version05:04
nowisnjust grabbed it a couple of days ago05:04
nowisn2.6.12-9-38605:05
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nowisnkde version 3.4.305:06
sophienalioth: thanks for the help mplayer was not working properly because dma was not enabled on the dvd drive05:06
poimennowish05:07
poimenand how you log in?05:07
poimenwith that same passworD?05:07
naliothsophie: good! :)05:07
nowisnyes05:08
poimenok last try05:08
poimenopen konsole05:08
poimenthen type05:08
poimensudo kcontrol05:08
nowisnchristopher /  nowisn197005:08
nowisnuser / pass05:08
poimen!05:09
ubotupoimen: Do they come in packets of five?05:09
poimenubotu : hum?05:09
ubotuI haven't a clue, poimen05:09
poimenubotu : hum?05:09
nalioth!ubotu05:09
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.05:09
poimennowish you are creazy! dont post you password05:10
poimenbtw : you got it working with the         sudo kcontrol       ?05:11
naliothnowisn: please change your password before we continue. use the 'passwd' command from a terminal05:11
poimennowish please do that or nalioth will hack you05:12
nowisndoesn't matter after this i'll reinstall and start over05:12
poimenbtw05:13
nowisnno critical info anyhow05:13
poimenuse that [asswd command now05:13
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poimentry changing the password05:13
naliothnowisn: if you are gonna reinstall, why are we bothering with this?05:13
nowisnok05:13
poimenand try what I torld you about kcontrol and see if you can get to configure the netowrk interface05:14
nowisnokay pass changed05:14
nowisnok05:14
poimencool05:14
poimennow try please to run kcontrol _>  internet & netowrok -> Netowrk Settings with Administrator Mode05:15
poimennowish   what happened?05:17
nowisnnope05:18
nowisnerror05:18
nowisnKDE su05:18
nowisnsu returned with an error05:18
nowisntryed  the alt/f2 as well with no success05:18
demon71I'm having audio problems...I have on board audio. nothing fancy but I'm not getting any audio...I would imagine I need audio drivers...sound right?05:18
nowisnpass denied05:19
naliothit's kdesu, not kde su05:19
demon71anyone know about audio issues....I need a bit of help if possible.05:21
poimennowish   :(05:21
poimennowish   I dont kwon man05:21
nowisnye05:21
nowisnthats alright either do i05:22
nowisnTY for the help though05:22
poimennowish   Its very strange to have that problem yout password is not acepted :(05:22
poimenwell lets kill sudo05:22
poimendo this05:22
poimensudo passwd05:22
poimenand type a easy password!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!05:23
nowisnyeah but i get this error05:23
poimenwhat error?05:23
nowisnsudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()05:24
poimenwell05:24
poimenthat is new to me05:24
poimenhere were my help stops :(05:24
poimenI dont kwon what is that look like a host problem05:24
poimenI dont kwon nothing about that05:24
naliothpoimen: what are we doing?05:24
poimenhe does not get his password to work05:25
poimenevery thing he try to run as root it wont let him do it05:25
nowisnsomeone told me it might be that but i do not know how to access of configure that file05:25
naliothif it always gives the 'hostname not found' then it's nothing to do with the pass05:25
naliothnowisn: what does it say in your terminal when you open it? (the prompt)05:26
poimenwell i dont kwon I am just tring to help because he told me passswd wont work05:26
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nowisnchristopher2ubuntu:~$05:26
nowisnoops05:26
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nowisnchristopher@ubuntu05:27
naliothnowisn: got a pencil?05:27
nowisnyes05:27
nowisngo05:27
poimenwell I am off05:27
nolohello05:27
poimenI have to sleep sorry I was not able to help05:27
naliothi'm gonna ask you to boot into rescue mode in a minute, and edit your /etc/hosts   file05:27
poimenGod Bless you all05:27
nowisnpoiman thank you fortrying , your cool man05:28
naliothnowisn: what you're lookng for is the top line with this >>> 127.0.0.1       localhost.localdomain   localhost     ubuntu05:28
Delvienanyone try amarok 1.3.7 yet?05:28
poimensee ya nowish hope to see you again back in the channel :D05:28
naliothnowisn: if it doesnt say "ubuntu" on the same line as 127.0.0.1 and localhost.localdomain  and localhost, then make it so05:28
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Flammiagood morning everyone05:29
nowisnokay05:30
Delvienanyone try amarok 1.3.7 yet?05:30
troyDelvien: nah, would have to downgrade from the svn version *sigh*05:31
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Delvientroy SVN version ?05:32
timothyWhat package do I need to install for the /usr/include/X11 stuff?05:32
troyDelvien: development unstable version05:32
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nowisnokay how do i boot intorescue mode?05:32
nalioth!xincludes05:32
ubotuWhen a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev05:32
naliothnowisn: when you restart your computer, at the grub prompt you'll see "rescue" mode05:33
timothyhmmm... well they arn't there.  maybe that's why I couldn't find something that looked right... I thought I have my sources.list ok.05:35
naliothtimothy: if you can't find those libs, something is very wrong05:35
nowisnrecovery mode05:35
nowisndo not have a rescue mode05:36
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timothyMy idiot problem.  It appears I had updates, multiverse, and universe but not "base/normal/main/whatever"....05:37
naliothrecovery = rescue05:37
naliothtimothy: well, now your'e sorted05:38
timothysorry to waste your time.05:38
Flammiaanyone in here use .ogm files?05:38
naliothnever a waste05:38
nowisnokay its at a prompt05:38
nowisnroot@ubuntu:~#05:39
Flammianobody??05:39
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Flammia!ogm05:40
ubotuFlammia: Are you smoking crack?05:40
Flammia!yes05:40
ubotuYes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thought it, eh, flammia?05:40
Flammia!container05:40
ubotuFlammia: Bugger all, i dunno05:40
naliothnowisn: type gedit /etc/hosts05:41
nowisnnalioth05:41
nowisnits at root@ubuntu05:41
nowisndo i reboot again05:42
naliothnowisn: no. you are in a superuser console05:42
naliothnowisn: type gedit /etc/hosts05:42
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nowisnhmmm command not found05:43
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Flammia!ogg05:44
ubotuFlammia: Are you smoking crack?05:44
Flammiaerg...05:44
FlammiaI want to know how to set up Totem to work with .ogm files... if it's possible05:44
Flammiaif not, then what players do any fo you suggest05:44
naliothnowisn: then type nano /etc/hosts05:46
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poimen!05:46
ubotupoimen: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about05:46
poimenI am trying to put somehting to compile05:46
nowisnokay05:46
naliothFlammia: just search your apt for libogg or libtheora05:46
poimenbut make is not installed05:47
poimenwhat I need to compile a module for the kernel?05:47
nowisnGNU nano 1.3.8    File:/etc/hosts05:47
nowisni'm in05:47
nowisn127.0.0.1 localhost05:47
naliothpoimen: install build-essential05:48
naliothnowisn: on the same line space over a few spaces from "localhost" and put "ubuntu"05:48
demon71does anyone know anything about limewire... i wanna install it but not sure what to do...05:48
Flammianalioth: thanks05:48
naliothubotu: tell demon71 about restricted05:48
poimenI get this error /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-amd64-generic/build: No such file or directory.  Stop05:49
nowisn^C i press for curser?05:49
Flammianalioth: I've already got both of those, though...05:49
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nowisnoh never mind05:50
nowisnduuu05:50
nowisnwrong keyboard05:50
naliothnowisn: no, just use your arrow keys05:50
nowisnyeah, wasn't paying attention05:51
nowisnso any amout of space between localhost05:51
nowisni mean after it05:51
naliothjust a few spaces over05:51
nowisnok05:52
ClayGnalioth: I think those non ubuntu repos got my other system a little messed up.  Everytime I try to apt-get anything it'sd giving me problems05:52
ClayGacting like the file I want to install is broken or missing05:52
naliothClayG: you've been told and told about non ubuntu repos05:52
ClayGYes this is the same problem as the last time I was told05:53
ClayGthe tovid mplayer fiasco05:53
naliothcomment out the non ubuntu repos, ClayG05:53
naliothClayG: compiling stuff yourself is the preferred way05:53
poimenI get this error /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-amd64-generic/build: No such file or directory.  Stop what should I install?05:54
ClayGI need to grab the default source list05:54
naliothpoimen: kernel headers, and linux source05:54
poimenkernel headers installed05:55
naliothubotu: tell ClayG about sources05:55
naliothpoimen: then grab linux source05:55
poimenlinux sources not05:55
poimenok05:55
ClayGthanks05:55
nowisnnalioth do i save this file and continue05:55
naliothnowisn: yes, ctrl-o (to write) and ctrl-x (to exit)05:56
nowisnsorry don't mean to cut in05:56
naliothnowisn: then restart your machine05:56
nowisnrestarting05:58
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poimenIf I get my tvtuner working I will send my windows partitition to hell!06:00
nowisnokay i'm back at my password prompt , do i use the same one06:02
nowisn?06:02
naliothnowisn: you should be able to use sudo now06:02
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naliothnowisn: or kdesu for graphical apps06:02
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nowisnAh at the gui kubuntu username and pass propmt wizard, it now won't accept my password06:05
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poimennowish use the last passwd you made with passwd command06:06
naliothdid you use your new password?06:06
poimenremember u changed it06:06
nowisnah yeah okay duuu06:06
poimenlol06:06
nowisnyup i did06:07
nowisnokay06:07
poimenit loaded?06:07
nowisngive me a sec and i'll give it a shot06:07
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nowisnoh got another prob about sound drivers, its says no file or directory at device dev/dsp06:08
nowisnbut i'll worry about that later since sound doesn't matter much06:09
naliothubotu: tell nowisn about sound06:10
poimen  CC [M]   /home/poimen/ivtv-0.5.1/driver/ivtv-osd.o06:11
poimen/bin/sh: gcc-3.4: command not found06:11
poimen!!!06:11
ubotuwell, ! is what you add before a sentence to talk to me06:11
poimenthat means I need gcc 3.4?06:11
manveruhmm06:11
manveruif you wanna compile06:11
manveru!build-essential06:12
ubotuWish i knew, manveru06:12
manveru!build-essentials06:12
ubotumanveru: Syntax error in line 106:12
manverulol :)06:12
poimenI installed that06:12
manveruhowever, you need the package build-essentials06:12
nowisnokay how do I sign in at terminal06:12
poimenI installed the linux source and headers06:12
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nowisnsu06:12
manveruno, sudo -i06:12
poimenshould I reboot after installing that things?06:12
manveruyou want to install a kernel?06:13
poimenI want to install a module06:13
nowisnokay success06:13
manveruno reboot needed then06:13
poimenivtv 0.5.106:13
manveruwait a second - there was a super-easy tool for building that06:13
nowisnnow my network card06:14
nowisnthanks guys you solved that prob for me06:14
KnowerrorsCan anyone tell me how to use the kubutu 5.10 cd to downgrade from kde 3.5 to kde 3.4.306:14
Knowerrors?06:14
poimennowish you got net connection now?06:14
manveruKnowerrors: you didn't have to upgrade... right?06:15
Knowerrorsnope06:15
nowisnno i do not06:15
manveruKnowerrors: well, i fear that close to impossible... at least it's damned hard to do06:15
poimennowish you entered kcontrol   internet and network ?06:15
Knowerrorswhy, can't I just use the cd as apt source manveru?06:16
nowisnstill sees my nework card but greyed out06:16
manveruKnowerrors: you will have to purge you whole current kde and install the old one again - losing all your configurations and advantages kubuntu gave you06:16
poimenok push the administrator mode06:16
nowisnyes admin mode06:16
nowisnloading06:16
poimenas soon that opens up click configure interface or something like that06:17
Knowerrorsmanveru: thats fine, as long as I can keep non kde programs I manually installed, as well as my kernel... I don't want to do a completely new install06:17
nowisnstill loading06:17
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manveruKnowerrors: well, a complete fresh install might take less time :)06:17
poimennowish : well as soon you can use it click the interfase and then click on configure interface06:18
Knowerrorsnope, too much custom stuff06:18
poimenthen check the Activate when comphuter start box and  then ok06:18
manveruKnowerrors: however - haven't done that myself, so i cannot help you much on that...06:18
poimenthen click the enable interface on the main window were your interface is shown06:19
manveruKnowerrors: i know the process in theory, and i will try to help you as far as i can06:19
poimenmanveru you had a ivtv script or tool for the module right?06:21
manveruthere is a tool for building modules and getting all stuff for it automatically06:21
manveruhave to search for it, built my fuse-drivers with it06:22
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manverui think i have it06:26
manverumodule-assistant - tool to make module package creation easier06:26
manverusorry, have to go for some minutes - brb06:27
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nowisnokay still cannot connect06:34
nowisnWARNING: waiting for klauncher to exit06:35
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nowisnrepeats three times06:35
_pontamarok isn't making any sound ?06:35
nowisnthen says another instance of klauncher is running06:35
nowisncomm error with launcher06:35
nowisnexiting06:36
nowisnkio (KSycoca) ;error no data base available!06:36
manveruback06:37
manverunowisn: ok, could you tell me what exactly you have done after installing kubuntu?06:38
naliothnowisn: have you started any kde apps using sudo from a terminal?06:38
nowisnkamshell kdelibs ;warning could not find module 'kam_knetworkconfmodule06:38
poimenI will be bakc in sec let me reboot my system so we can get this ivtv working06:38
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nowisnno its saying this in the terminal when i'm trying to use kcontrol for my network card06:40
nowisnpressed admin button in network settings06:40
nowisnand it prompted me for pass which i entered06:40
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nowisnthen says loading then brings me back to the main control centre page06:41
manveruhmm06:41
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manverusounds quite serious to me06:41
nowisnwhere it lists version, user , host and so on06:41
poimenback06:42
manveruwb poimen06:42
poimen:D06:42
alxjvrhello, how do i intall firefox 1.5 on kubuntu? adept doesn't seem to have any package for it. and the source from mozilla complains of some missing libraries06:42
manverualxjvr: did you try to install it already? (compile or something?)06:42
naliothalxjvr: install the missing libraries and it'll compile just fine06:42
naliothi'm compiling it as we speak06:43
alxjvrhmmm06:43
manverunalioth: i'm not sure if compiling is the best option06:43
nowisndid not start any apps in terminal using sudo command yet06:43
poimenmanveru you could help me with the ivtv thing?06:43
naliothmanveru: what would you suggest?06:43
nowisnexcept sudo -i to login06:43
manverunalioth: downloading firefox - putting it in the home-dir and wait for the repos to provide it later?06:44
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manverupoimen: yeah, i'll try06:44
naliothalxjvr: manveru has an idea for you06:44
naliothalxjvr: it is easier with manveru's idea06:44
manverupoimen: first apt-get install module-assistant06:45
alxjvryeah, well....06:45
alxjvrthanks06:45
manveruhey, is the firefox-final already out?06:46
manveruseems like06:46
manveruhowever, alxjvr you downloaded firefox?06:46
alxjvryes i have and have extracted it06:47
alxjvrit can't find libstdc, and still apt-getting06:47
manverualxjvr: ok, now just put this directory in a folder in your home-directory... for me that is /home/manveru/apps/firefox06:47
nowisnOh I guess this Isn't gonna work for me either06:48
nowisnguess i'll have to go back to 9806:48
manverunowisn: win?06:48
nowisnyeah can't connect to net at all with this lappy06:49
manverunowisn: please wait a second and tell me what you system is06:49
manverunowisn: pcmcia-cards or eth-on-board?06:49
alxjvrack,now it complains about not getting the right locale for Xlib06:50
manverualxjvr: ok, you WANT to compile it...06:50
nowisnno only modem06:50
nowisnnp I'll wait06:50
manveru!xsources06:50
ubotumanveru: Not a clue06:50
manveruhmm, what was it06:50
manveru!xlibs06:50
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, manveru06:50
manverunowisn: so a normal ppp?06:51
manverunowisn: or pppoe?06:51
nalioth!xincludes06:51
poimenmanveru finished the install of module asistant06:51
ubotuWhen a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev06:51
manverunalioth: ty :)06:52
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manverupoimen: ok, now try using it06:53
poimenhow?06:53
poimen:(06:53
manverupoimen: 'sudo module-assistant ivtv' ?06:53
manverupoimen: or no, just start it06:53
manverupoimen: you have the kernel-headers, right?06:54
poimenyea06:54
manverupoimen: ok, run it with 'sudo module-assistant'06:54
poimenok done06:54
manverunow do a update06:54
manverunowisn: you still there?06:54
nowisngot a linksys pcmcia card model #pcmpc100, Laptop is a P3 500 Eurocom 3420, manufactured by eurocom, older models were never really tested by them much on linux06:54
nowisnyes06:54
poimenyeah but it takes me to the sma emenu06:54
manverusma emenu?06:55
poimenph ok06:55
poimenI did update06:55
poimen:)06:55
manverui guess you know how to continue06:55
poimennow prepare?06:55
manveruyeah06:55
alxjvrhey, in what package is autoconf , buildconf contained?06:56
poimenmanveru when I do selct it shows me a list of modules but ivtv is not in the list :*(06:56
naliothalxjvr: in a terminal, type "apt-cache search buildconf"06:57
manverunowisn: searching for it... but i cannot help you much on that - you better google with me06:57
alxjvrno result06:57
manveru!info buildconf06:58
naliothalxjvr: there are several autoconf pkgs, iirc06:58
manverupoimen: let's see06:59
manverupoimen: ok... that's bad06:59
poimenwhy?06:59
manverupoimen: http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Main_Page07:00
manveruthey've got a whole wiki to help you07:00
poimenok thankx bro07:01
manverupoimen: because my time is running out - need to work07:01
poimennow it s my time to go07:01
poimenmine to I have to sleep07:01
poimen:D07:01
poimen2am here07:01
manveruhehe07:01
poimenGod bless07:01
manveru7am here07:01
manverusleep well07:01
poimensee ya all tomorow07:01
poimenthankx07:01
poimenhave a nice day :)07:02
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nowisnnot much info on my lappy available07:12
nowisnintel 82371xb INF chipset07:15
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freelovei created a new user with kuser in kubuntu ..but sound does not work for the new user......but when i created a new user with ubuntu things are ok........why??07:25
kkathmanwere you at root when in ubuntu?07:27
kkathmancheck permissions I imagine07:27
freelovekkathman: no.....u know i cant login as root......i think ubuntu user admin app is better and more tuned to sudo than kuser??07:29
freelovekkathman: have u ever created a new user with kuser in kubuntu who's not sudoer?07:29
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Zolhey07:31
Zoldoes anyone have any idea how i can mount an empty CD?07:32
naliothfreelove: you should use kdesu for any gui superuser tasks07:32
freelovenalioth: i wanted to create a non-sudo account for my bro......but the one i created with kuser...sound wont work for him.....but when i created a new user with ubuntu app sound worked!! any explanations?07:33
naliothfreelove: i'm not sure about sound in kde, have you looked at the !sound factoid?07:34
nalioth!sound07:34
ubotusound is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary07:34
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freelovenalioth: i can hear sound....but the new user i created with kuser cant...a new user i created with ubuntu app can gear sound too...any probs with kuser i guess...07:36
naliothfreelove: i'm not familiar with kuser, why not try the terminal method  "adduser"07:40
freeloveok:(07:44
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lwizardlhi07:50
lwizardlanyone use xmltv?07:50
nowisnmanveru you still here07:52
manverunowisn: yeah... but busy...07:52
nowisnnp07:52
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viviersfcan any1 help with ltsp + kdm ?08:06
nowisnokay I got my network card enabled by going sudo kcontrol then password to root and opened kcontrol and i configured my network card and its enabled now and it grabbed an IP08:08
nowisnbut it still won't open the webwithin konquor08:08
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nowisnand I don't know where to insert all the isp info08:09
nowisnunless I don't have to being I'm plugged into a router/dsl modem08:10
Flammiahey everybody08:10
naliothnowisn: can you ping your router?08:11
nowisnhow do I do that08:12
nowisnifconfig?08:12
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nowisnnal give me a hint08:18
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nowisnanyone still here08:23
naliothsorry08:24
naliothhad someone at the door08:24
naliothifconfig08:25
nowisnnp08:25
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nowisnrx packets 211, tx packets 7508:33
nowisnrxbytes62KiB08:33
nowisnTX bytes 7.3 KiB08:34
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fatejudgerdoes Dapper have gstreamer 0.10 yet?08:35
nalioth!info gstreamer dapper08:36
fatejudgersomeone should backport gstreamer 0.10 to Breezy08:36
naliothfatejudger: try packages.ubuntu.com, ubotu is not cooperating08:36
fatejudgerok08:36
crimsunfatejudger: seb is working on 0.10; he mentioned trying to have packages up this weekend in Dapper08:37
fatejudgercrimsun: do you know whether the Kubuntu devels have any plan to backport it to Breezy?08:38
fatejudgercrimsun: 0.10 has many critical fixes for many commonly used sound cards08:38
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nowisnso now how do i connect with the browser?08:43
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nowisnhey anyone left in here08:46
nowisnbed time guys so if anyones left I'd like to say thanks for the help08:47
nowisnnalioth TY for the big help man, night08:48
naliothnowisn: hang on a minute08:48
nowisnoh okay08:48
naliothnowisn: put this into your browser    "http://64.233.167.104"   no quotes necessary08:48
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nowisnerror occured time out on server08:50
nowisnat port 8008:50
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naliothnowisn: can your browser load your router setup routine?08:52
nowisnah i don't know08:54
nowisndon't remember the ip for it08:54
nowisnhmmmmm08:54
naliothwhat is your IP ?08:54
nowisngot it written down here somewhere08:54
naliothtry http://192.168.1.1 or 192.168.1.10008:55
naliothblah08:55
naliothyour IP will provide clues08:55
sambagirlhttp://64.233.167.104/08:56
sambagirli just do that i see google, is this correct?08:56
sambagirlor is this remote something?08:56
naliothsambagirl: that is googles IP, yes08:56
sambagirloh08:56
sambagirllol08:56
sambagirlchao08:56
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sambagirli thought was something secret08:56
naliothno, just testing nowisn's DNS on his box08:57
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kharlosshi . give me 3 reasons  to change my slackware distro , and become a kubuntu user09:05
naliothwiki.ubuntu.com09:05
kharlosssome romanian kubuntu user here ?09:06
nowisnyeah i got it but now i got to dig up my login secure pass for the router09:09
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nowisnnal i did connect to my router, what now09:25
nowisn?09:25
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m0ns00nHelu09:26
nalioth_zZzis your router set up properly?09:26
nowisnwith my main pc yes09:26
nowisnbut I haven't configured it for linux09:27
nowisnthe laptop09:27
nowisnfirst time connecting to it09:27
nalioth_zZznowisn: i'd like to help you further, but it's way past my bedtime09:27
nowisnno prob me to09:28
nalioth_zZzbut if your machine can surf the router, i'd check the router09:28
nowisnlater then and thanks man09:28
m0ns00nAnyone else sad about  KDE 3.5's state of text editors?09:28
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mth`MAWHi09:29
nowisnhey09:29
m0ns00nRight now the most powerful text editor out there is Quanta plus09:35
m0ns00nIronic :-D09:35
m0ns00nIt still introduced some old bugs in 3.5, but still it has project management that works.09:35
mth`MAWquanta aint a texteditor!09:35
m0ns00nIt must suffice!09:36
m0ns00n:-)09:36
m0ns00nKDE is now a "single file" editor09:36
m0ns00nDoesn't have any project management09:36
m0ns00nThe sessions don't store anything but open files it seems to me09:36
m0ns00nAnd has no tree view over projects/directories09:36
nowisnanyone know how to configure a router for internet connection?09:36
m0ns00nKDE---sorry KATE09:37
m0ns00n:-D09:37
mth`MAWm0ns00n: I do not get the point!09:37
mth`MAWAH!09:37
mth`MAWokay09:37
m0ns00nThere09:37
m0ns00n:-D09:37
m0ns00nAnyhow09:37
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m0ns00nI'm happy, it seems from bugs.kde.org that project management will be back in in a later version of KDE09:37
m0ns00n(kde 3.5.1?)09:37
m0ns00nFew people who use Kate for projects can use the KDE 3.5 version09:38
JakubSoi, dapper upgrade really fscked my initng boot scripts09:38
JakubSi wish udev devels stopped breaking stuff every release09:38
crimsunwe told you not to rely on 1) stability in a development branch; 2) initng  ;)09:39
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JakubSi never do as told :-)09:41
JakubSand without working suspend fast boot is important09:41
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guyabano:) gudpm people, can someone here please help me install limewire09:50
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guyabano:) gudpm people, can someone here please help me install limewire09:57
CarstenPhi, i want to copy some mp3s on my compact flash card.09:58
CarstenPkubunut finds my cf card troubleless, but i cant copy any files on it, because i am only allowed to read files09:58
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shmoolikhello10:02
shmooliki have a problem evry thing on KDE get open with kate ( like sh files and deb pakages )10:03
shmoolikwhat can i do ?10:03
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guyabanohi10:04
shmoolikhello10:05
guyabanowhats the command to install jave on my computer?10:05
guyabano?10:05
guyabanosomeone pls help me10:05
guyabanoi mean java on my computer10:05
shmoolikyeah wait a sec i will tell ya10:05
shmoolikguyabano: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=Codecs#head-68565ae07a003332e82c9f23706638777396c24910:06
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guyabanohei shmoolik10:10
guyabanoPackage j2re1.4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.10:10
guyabanoThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or10:10
guyabanois only available from another source10:10
shmoolikguyabano:  hello10:10
guyabano:(10:11
shmoolikthen flow the help about java  JRE 5.0 Update 610:11
shmooliki used the  JRE 5.0 Update 610:12
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Hobbsee!javadeb10:13
ubotuI heard javadebs is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/10:13
shmooliki can't run sh files .... can some one help plz ?10:15
Hobbsee!sh10:18
ubotuHobbsee: Do they come in packets of five?10:18
shmoolikyeah like firefox-bin10:19
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monsoonmariakubuntu rules.10:22
guyabanohow do i install .bin file10:25
guyabano?10:25
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guyabanoi wanna install jave10:25
guyabanojava10:25
seth_kguyabano, don't install the bin... follow the directions here10:25
seth_khttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java10:25
guyabanook ill try10:26
seth_kI see shmoolik already linked you to the best directions link10:26
shmoolik:) i think so too10:27
shmoolikdudes can't any one help me?10:27
guyabanoshmoolik i tried to follow the instructions and i download the .bin but it cant be installed10:27
shmoolikwhat is the err?10:28
shmoolik i have a problem running apps ... plz help  !10:28
guyabanoguyabano@guyabano:~/Desktop$ sudo chmod +x /home/guyabano/Desktop/jre-1_5_06-linux-i686.bin10:29
guyabanochmod: cannot access `/home/guyabano/Desktop/jre-1_5_06-linux-i686.bin': No such file or directory10:29
shmoolikthen sudo chmod10:29
shmoolikohhhh .... wait  a sec guyabano10:30
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guyabanok10:30
shmoolikguyabano:  dude  u need to do it with out the sudo10:30
shmoolikgo to the dir were u have dl the jre10:31
shmoolikand there just chmod +x jre10:31
shmoolik<press tab>10:31
shmoolikthen < press enter>10:31
guyabanoit showed all the files in my Desktop10:33
guyabanoincluding the java installer10:33
guyabanowhat do i do?10:34
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shmoolikwhat do u mean ?10:35
shmooliktype chmod -x jre<press tab>10:36
guyabanoi did wjhat u said, chmod +x jre <press tab>10:36
guyabanowhen i do that, it only show my files in the table10:37
shmooliktry chmod +x jre-1_10:37
shmoolikthen tab10:37
guyabanoyeah it worked10:37
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guyabanoyeah it worked back to >>> uyabano@guyabano:~/Desktop$10:38
guyabanohey it seems to be working now10:40
guyabanoim on the license thingy now10:40
shmoolikgrate10:41
shmooliki m glad i could help ya10:41
guyabano;) im actually downloading limewire10:41
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shmoolikwhat is  limewire?10:42
guyabanotry to search in google10:43
guyabanoits a downloading program10:43
guyabanoi use it to download mp3s, ebooks, movies10:44
guyabano;-* ei shmoolik, got to go10:44
guyabanothanks for the help10:44
guyabanolorena *hugs* shmoolike10:44
guyabanolorena *hugs* shmoolik10:44
guyabanobye10:44
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ninHerhi all10:53
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kcheung!quicktime11:00
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, quicktime is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information on quicktime support or just install the "libquicktime1" package.11:00
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Citydog!mplayer11:05
ubotuwell, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106111:05
_shmoolikhow can i del  symbolic link11:10
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_shmoolikthanks11:12
Tallia1Kubuntuhi there11:12
Tallia1Kubuntuif i use ssh i can login in the shell of my system as if i am there.11:12
Tallia1Kubuntubut i can't istantiate my x system...... so.... no kde.11:13
Tallia1Kubuntuisn't there a way to use it from remote?11:13
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Rayman_Tallia1Kubuntu, System settings -> Sharing11:14
Tallia1Kubuntuooo11:15
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Tallia1Kubuntuand what do i need to open a x window?11:15
Tallia1Kubuntui don't think that an ssh client under windows works right?11:15
Tallia1Kubuntuooo11:16
Tallia1Kubuntui see11:16
Tallia1Kubuntuthat is VNC11:16
Tallia1Kubuntuthat is not the same11:16
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someone27hy12:54
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thoreauputicwow #kubuntu is quiet today...01:22
jpatrickthoreauputic: yep :(01:23
Kamping_Kaisermust be because I'm not here ;)01:24
Kamping_Kaiser</ego>01:24
Kamping_Kaiserthe internets been quiet today :|01:24
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jpetsowah! help! my screensavers don't show up in the screensaver control center module anymore!01:31
jpetso(Kubuntu Breezy, still on 3.4.301:31
jpetsohas anyone got an idea what could be happening here?01:32
jpetso...of course, debug output is quiet as can be.01:33
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jpetsopretty please?01:36
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electuZhi kaiser, jjesse, paines02:31
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Kamping_Kaiserhi mate02:33
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slow-motionhallo02:35
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pinucsetsth for seeing a keyboard in my monitor? ive broken finger and i cant write ok...02:45
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mth`MAWthere is smth. in KDE I took a look o mom polease02:47
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pinucsetmth`MAw thnks!02:51
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fenoambyhello02:51
mth`MAWjust tooks a couple of hours ;)02:51
mth`MAWhi fenoamby02:51
fenoambyi ve got a problem with my printerS02:52
fenoambyi can t print on my laserjet before make : chmod 666 /dev/lp0  in the terminal02:52
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mth`MAWthats sad02:57
mth`MAWDamn pinucset I do not find it02:57
mth`MAWit was real cool!02:57
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djk_!info gok02:59
ubotugok: (GNOME Onscreen Keyboard), section gnome, is optional. Version: 1.0.5-1ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 618 kB, Installed size: 9524 kB02:59
djk_pinucset: ^^03:00
mth`MAWlooks fine03:00
mth`MAWfor him03:01
pinucsettahnks pple!03:02
djk_!info gtkeyboard03:02
ubotugtkeyboard: (A highly-configurable on-screen keyboard for mouse-typing), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1.1.7-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 350 kB, Installed size: 1096 kB03:02
pinucsetdownloadinff.03:03
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pinucsetone think, i exe gok and...03:14
pinucsetpinucset@Pinucset:~$ gok03:14
pinucset** ERROR **: Could not locate registry03:14
pinucsetaborting...03:14
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pinucsetpinucset@Pinucset:~$03:14
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jpatrickmorning03:32
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kkathmangood morning jpatrick :)03:32
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man2dhi all03:36
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atidemhello03:40
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atidemhow do I enable administrative commands via webinterface in cups?03:41
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mogiatidem: just guessing: run it as root?03:43
atidemI finded solution03:44
atidem#adduser cupsys shadow03:44
atidemit's typical of debian based system03:44
kkathmanRiddell you around03:46
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kkathmanhe's prolly asleep :)03:46
Kamping_Kaiseras if he sleeps ;)03:47
kkathmanlol prolly03:47
jpatrickhe was here 2 hours ago03:47
DanielSHaischtRiddell: are u there?03:48
kkathmanahh its nothing...wanted to let him know I was trying out one of his projects :)03:48
maxx-730what project?03:49
kkathmanhe wrote a UML development tool...I was looking for one and stumbled on it through Freshmeat this morning03:49
jpatrickkkathman: nwe verison in today03:49
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maxx-730aha03:50
maxx-730Anyway what i wanted to ask was03:50
jpatrickUmbrello UML Modeller03:50
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maxx-730Anyone else not having sound in Kubuntu or Xubuntu?03:51
maxx-730For me it works in ubuntu03:51
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kkathmanjpatrick:  yes03:51
maxx-730And every other distro on the planet03:51
jpatrickmaxx-730: I don't have sound at all03:51
kkathmanI have sound in kubuntu just fine..but dont really use it for anything03:51
maxx-730I do03:51
maxx-730I want to listen to music03:52
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maxx-730Ah wel i guess ill ask on ubuntuforums.org03:52
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jpatrickI need a new computer...03:53
man2di too =)03:53
man2dbuy me computer ^^03:53
maxx-730Me too03:53
RiddellDanielSHaischt: sort of03:54
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Hyouga_Braitif i download and use the live CD, if i like, can i install kubuntu from the live CD?03:55
kkathmanHey Riddell :)03:58
Kamping_Kaisersambagirl: how did your upgrade go?03:59
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sambagirlwhich one?04:00
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kkathmanRiddell Im trying out your umbrello...was looking for a UML modeler and up popped yours in freshmeat this morning :)04:00
Kamping_Kaisera few days ( a week?) ago we we were talking about apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade04:00
sambagirloh i am working on my new distro TwistOS.04:00
Riddellkkathman: good luck04:01
kkathmanthanks..Riddelll have you ever looked at DBDesigner4 ?04:01
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mister_robotoRiddell: is umbrello your project?04:03
Riddellmister_roboto: yes, to the extent that I get any time to work on it any more (not much)04:03
Riddellkkathman: nope04:03
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kkathmanRiddell: its a similar project, works really well on Windows, but the product wont install right under Linux :(04:04
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mister_robotoRiddell: I tried that a few months ago and was chatting with someone in #umbrello about a bug I found... just cannot remember what it was... hmmm   i really want to use it but it was a  show-stopper as I recall. Was that you I was talking to?04:04
Riddellmister_roboto: quite probably04:05
DanielSHaischtRiddell: Yesterday I did not manage to get the apt sources for kdenetwork-3.5. You did mention, that I should use >>archive.ubuntu.com<< instead. Unfortunatly I am still getting the 3.4 sources.04:05
kkathmanmister_roboto: there apparently was some major bug fixes...I got an announcement of it this morning in freshmeat04:05
mister_robotoOnly reason I ask is I'd still really like to use it and wonder if you've done maintenance on it since then04:05
mister_robotokkathman:  ok thanks...  should try it again04:05
RiddellDanielSHaischt: download them manually from archive.ubuntu.com04:06
mister_robotokkathman: using Poseidon now (very very nice) but it's not free in a commercial environment which is where i need it04:06
Riddellmister_roboto: well 1.5 is out so the issue might be fixed there04:06
mister_robotokkathman: and, of course, no budget at work, even for a simple tool   <sigh>04:06
Riddellmister_roboto: ug, poseidon, hope you have plenty of memory04:06
kkathmanmister_roboto: if not, and you arent tremendously averse to windows, you should take a look at DBDesigner4 from fabForce, its FOSS and very good04:06
mister_robotoRiddell:   yes, that's the problem :)04:07
kkathmanif umbrello doesnt meet your needs that is04:07
mister_robotoRiddell: actually the new Poseidon works great with 512MB04:07
kkathmanRiddell: your most current version is in the repos?04:07
mister_robotothe last few versions04:07
fenoambyhello, i ve a big problem with my printers ! someone can help me ?04:07
mister_robotokkathman: DBDesigner?  is that a UML tool?04:07
kkathmanmister_roboto: yes04:08
Riddellkkathman: yes, with KDE 3.504:08
kkathmana very good one under windows....you can try to install the Linux version but I couldnt get it to run04:08
kkathmanRiddell: I dont have 3.504:08
kkathmanwill it run ok under 3.4.304:08
mister_robotokkathman: i'm not religious about OS issues. In fact, I have to use Windows to work from home due to the VPN that is used.04:08
Riddellkkathman: get the sources from uml.sf.net04:08
mister_robotokkathman: thanks for the tip04:08
kkathmanRiddell: yes I got those this morning04:09
kkathmanmister_roboto: I'd urge you to try to install it under Linux and see if you had the same problems I did. If not, I'd like to talk to you about what you did to get it to work04:09
mister_robotokkathman: I'll give it a go this afternoon.04:10
kkathmanmister_roboto: right now all my development evironments are under Linux, but my UML is on windows...so I have to design the DB there, export the SQL scripting, transfer it and upload04:10
kkathmanits a pain04:11
mister_robotokkathman: sounds like :)    i'm only interested in the UML part specifically though, not DB design  (class diagrams, sequence diagrams, state diagrams)04:11
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kkathmanIm more interested in the DB Design and building the ERDs, but DBDesigner can do all that also04:13
kkathmanIm wondering if Riddell's proggie will output SQL, because thats absolutely necessary for my needs04:14
kkathmanIm sure it does04:14
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mister_robotokkathman: i don't think umbrello does ERD's (or UML2, as I recall)    but I could be totally wrong :)04:15
Riddellkkathman: no04:15
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kkathmanah   crud04:16
kkathmanoh well04:16
kkathmanmister_roboto: if you figure out how to get DBDesigner4 to install under Linux I would be forever grateful :)04:16
mister_robotokkathman: ok   have a conf. call coming up soon.   i will play with it later and let you know04:17
kkathmanthanks man..appreciate your efforts and willingness04:18
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fenoambyhelp for my problems of printers ?04:19
bhnafenoamby: wich printer?04:28
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djk_kkathman: can you recommend me some linux-books?04:31
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kkathmandjk_: sure04:32
kkathmandjk_: what are you looking for?04:32
fenoambycanon i86504:32
djk_kkathman: well, that's exactly the problem.. i don't know.. I've been asked what i want for christmas..04:33
kkathmanahh ok..04:33
fenoambybhna: it s a canon i865 USB with turboprint drivers04:34
kkathmandjk_: general linux books, there are many...I kinda like the Linux Bible, because it touches on alot of things, albeit superficially in some areas.04:34
fenoambybhna:  and a LAserjet 1100 HP in parallel port04:34
kkathmandjk_: The O'Reilly books on Linux are very good also04:34
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bhnafenoamby: please look at www.linuxprinting.org04:35
fenoambybhna: i look on this site but my printer isn t in the list04:35
kkathmanthere is an O'Reilly book on line you can actually use on Debian :)04:35
bhnafenoamby: think there no problem with the hp laserjet.04:35
fenoambybhna:  with the hp the problem : i must do in console : chmod 666 /dev/lp004:35
fenoambyit s a problem of user04:36
djk_I have the iptables book from O'Reilly... and a command-reference book.. that's about it.. for everything else i just searched online.04:36
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kkathmandjk_: you cant go wrong with O'Reilly books04:37
kkathmanthey have a couple of very good Python books04:37
fenoambybhna: http://www.turboprint.info/  for the driver i d install04:37
bhnafenoamby: hp printer http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_110004:37
poimenhello04:38
poimenI have a probklem installing a module04:38
poimenthis is the error I get http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/45553404:38
bhnafenoamby: think canon has a cups driver on there homepage04:38
bhnafenoamby: are your user a groupmember of lpadmin?04:39
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fenoambybhna:  i have a problem in the setting system, i can t acess to USERS and GROUPS04:40
bhnafenoamby: use the aministrator mode also for the printer installation04:41
fenoambybhna:  yes, i use the root mode04:41
bhnafenoamby: have no idea, maybe you ask Riddel04:42
fenoambybhna: i think it s a problem of administration for my usb port04:42
fenoambybhna: my work is in queue for my i86504:42
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fenoambybhna: i don t want to reboot on windowsXP for printing my works04:43
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freelovefresh install of kubuntu...after a few reboots...i land up in console...kde starts only when i type startx...help!!!04:48
jpatrickfreelove: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart04:49
freelovejpatrick: what will this do jpatrick?04:49
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jpatrickfreelove: restart KDM04:49
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freelovejpatrick: right now im in kubuntu...after typing startx......im upgrading right now with apt-get upgrade...hoping that the prob will be solved:(04:50
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freelovejpatrick: i dont wanna say it but kubuntu breezy IS quite buggy....in comparison kubuhoary never gave me any probs.....04:51
freelovejpatrick: my pppoe connection doesn't start at boot time.....any way to fix this?04:51
freelovejpatrick: although during pppoeconf i set it to start at boot...04:52
jpatrickfreelove: no idea04:52
freelove:(04:52
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freelovewhat does this klipper tool actually do?04:54
freelovewhat use can i put it to?04:54
jpatrickfreelove: saves your copies04:54
jpatrickof text04:54
freelovebut i guess it saves some of my actions too??04:55
jpatricknope04:55
moginope, only text04:55
freelovei can see that it has stored some file locations too........04:56
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freeloveor local urls of some of my home files......04:56
jpatrickoh and files you've copied and pasted04:57
freeloveyaaaaa now i got it:)04:57
freelovehow do i copy text off it?04:57
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mogiShift+Insert04:58
freeloveok04:59
mogifreelove: what do you mean pppoe doesnt start at boottime?05:00
mogihas anyone else tried it?05:00
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djk_tried what05:00
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mogitried pppoe at bootup with the latest kubuntu?05:01
djk_latest being breezy or dapper?05:02
mogibreezy ;-D05:02
djk_then yes, I have.05:02
mogi'tworks?05:02
djk_yes05:02
mogiwell freelove is having problems with it05:03
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mogiwhat are the odds of meeting Mark Shuttleworth her?05:03
mogihere*05:03
freeloveya it doesnt start for me at boottime,....05:05
freelove:(05:05
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djk_freelove: it always just did for me, so no idea. check if you really set it up to start at boot..05:09
tobyI have a mouse connected to my serial port and also one connected via usb. At the moment, only the USB one works. To make the other one work, do I just change05:10
hussamIs this a known bug? OO.o 1.9.129 sometims crashes when I save a .doc file after inserting an image.05:10
tobyOption          "Device"                "/dev/input/mice"05:10
tobyto point to the serial port in my xorg.conf?05:11
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Noelashi05:12
bobobob333Just out of curiosity, why are the KDE 3.5 packages relegated to a seperate repository and not moved into the main breezy repository? Is KDE 3.5 considered unstable?05:12
bobobob333Noelas: hello05:13
NoelasI have a question and hope for help05:13
Noelasis there something like a live-CD from kubuntu (like knoppix) which automatically detects sound, modem, X-Server and so on05:13
tobybobobob333: FWIW I installed it yesterday with no probs using adept05:13
Noelasit should support a harddrive installation05:14
Noelasshould work in vmware05:14
Noelasis there something like that?05:14
bobobob333Noelas: yes05:14
bobobob333Noelas: I'll get you the link05:14
Noelasbobobob333, thank you very much for your help!05:14
bobobob333http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/breezy/kubuntu-5.10-live-i386.iso is the x86 archetecture. Other archetectures are listed under "downloads" on kubuntu.org05:15
Noelashow can I know what archetecture I have=05:16
NoelasI normally nowload i686 packages05:16
freeloveserial mouse does not work in kubuntu.....i had to edit xorg........05:16
bobobob333Noelas: then you want the x86 architecture05:17
Noelasok ... may I ask you 2 or 3 more questions please?05:17
bobobob333but of course05:17
Noelasthank you very much05:18
NoelasI used Mepis...  Mepis is like knoppix, only better, and made for HD Installations ...05:18
bobobob333just a note: in internet nettiquette, it is polite to not ask to ask questions and simply to ask them05:18
Noelasone time, I did:05:18
Noelasapt-get install xpdf05:18
Noelasit begun d9ownloading  glibc6  sources and I HAD to update glibc605:18
Noelasit was bad ...05:18
jpatrickbobobob333: Breezy repos are frozen05:18
NoelasI got a lot of other problems because Mepis uses  testing / unstable packages05:19
bobobob333jpatrick: okay; thanks05:19
Noelasis  the LIVE-CD of KUBUNTU based on stable packages?05:19
jpatrickbobobob333: thus new packages can't go there05:19
bobobob333Noelas: it is05:19
bobobob333Noelas: Kubuntu is one of the most stable distributions I have ever used\05:19
jpatrickNoelas: get the Flight-1 CD if you want unstable05:19
tobyIs there an equivalent of harddrake for kubuntu? An app that lists hardware much like device manager in XP?05:19
jpatricktoby: KInfoCenter05:20
Noelasthats what I want ... a stable and working distro05:20
Noelasdoes kubuntu use the official "stable" packages from Debian?05:20
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Noelasor does it have an own repository?05:20
bobobob333Noelas: No because the "stable" packages from debian are too old05:20
tobyjpatrick: thx05:20
bobobob333Noelas: It is based off of debian "unstable", but they only take the stable ones05:20
jpatrickNoelas: Kubuntu == stablized Debian unstable05:21
freeloveoo shoul be replaced with koffice in future releases imho:)05:21
jpatrickfreelove: discussed.......... many times05:21
Noelasokay I see ...05:21
bobobob333jpatrick: what were the results of the discussions? Are they planning on any chances?05:21
jpatrickbobobob333: overall: no05:22
freelovejpatrick: really? so whats verdict?05:22
Noelasthe LIVE CD .... why isn't it listed in the "download" section of kubuntu.org?  Isn't it an official CD?  Does it have an own website?05:22
bobobob333Noelas: it is listed on the download section05:22
bobobob333Noelas: towards the bottom05:22
jpatrickNoelas: click one of the links and you'll be taken to a mirror with the CDs05:22
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NoelasI try to describe it better:05:23
NoelasI was on   http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php05:23
NoelasI clicked on a german mirror05:24
Noelasnow I am on  http://mirrors.flosoft.biz/projects/kubuntu/05:24
Noelasthere is a CD ISO i386 Install05:24
NoelasCD ISO: AMD 64 - Install05:24
NoelasLink05:24
NoelasCD ISO: PowerPC - Install05:24
Noelasthats all05:24
Noelasno live cd05:24
jpatrickNoelas: choose another one05:24
bobobob333(another mirror)05:24
jpatrickbobobob333 & freelove : http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuOfficeSuite?highlight=%28KOffice%2905:24
bobobob333thanks jpatrick05:25
Noelasfound it05:25
Noelasthank you! :)05:25
NoelasLast problem:   What is the difference between the "normal"  Kubuntu CD,   and the LIVE-CD of Kubuntu?   Is the "normal" CD any better?05:26
jpatrickNoelas: normal CD ?05:26
jpatrickNoelas: there only is an install/live CD05:27
bobobob333Noelas: the "install" CD allows you to install Kubuntu to a harddisk. The live CD lets you boot Ubuntu05:27
Noelasnormal = install cd05:27
Noelasthe live CD has no "install" option?05:28
bobobob333if you want to use Ubuntu on a permanent basis, you want the install CD. The Live CD is like KNoppix05:28
bobobob333NOelas: no05:28
bobobob333the live CD has no install option05:28
Noelasok...  how hard will it be to get sound and X with Kubuntu Install CD ?05:28
NoelasI was not able to get it done with Debian05:28
bobobob333Noelas: it configures it automatically for you05:28
NoelasI am using Windows XP on a Toshiba Laptop,   Kubuntu will run in VMWARE05:29
bobobob333Noelas: if the hardware is supported05:29
bobobob333Noelas: It will probably work without a hitch05:29
bobobob333Noelas: naturally though, just in case it does not, you do not want to delete windows05:29
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bobobob333Noelas: instead, you will want to make a dual-boot configuration05:30
Noelaswell I would like to delete windows,  but it offers some comfort on a laptop ...05:30
Noelasexample:  WLAN access in internet cafes05:30
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NoelasUMTS Connect Cards for Internet whereever I am05:30
NoelasI guess Kubuntu will not be able to handle this05:30
jpatrickNoelas: who knows?05:31
Noelasif I use vmware,  Internet will work automatically05:31
jpatrickit might...05:31
Noelasbecause its a laptop ... nether knoppix, not kanotix and mepis were able to get WLAN work05:31
bobobob333Noelas: Using ndiswrapper, it is possible to make many wireless cards work. However, it requires a great deal of effort05:31
Noelasand the UMTS Connect Card is not supported by linux05:31
NoelasI could not find drivers for it05:31
Noelasits from www.a1.net05:31
Noelas(austria)05:31
bobobob333Noelas: let me check that for you05:32
Noelasname:  Vodafone Connect card  (UMTS * EDGE)05:32
_ismaelHOLA05:32
_ismaelHOLA05:32
Noelashola _ismael05:32
jpatrick_ismael: hola/hello05:32
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lorionanyone connect kubuntu to an HDTV?05:33
_ismaeltengo una  kuubuntu breezy, he confiigurado mi impresora  pero no consigo arrancar cups05:33
jpatrick_ismael: #kubuntu-es por favor05:34
_ismaelsorry05:34
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_ismaelthere aren't any person  in es. I goint to try write in english05:36
bobobob333Noelas: once you have Ubuntu installed, it is possible that https://wiki.ubuntu.com//SetupNdiswrapperHowto may help you get your wireless card to work.05:36
Flying_Eagle i updated to kde 3.5 and now kopete shows the offline contacts shortly when i switch the availability-modes. is this intentionally?05:37
Flying_Eaglenobody in #kopete answers05:37
jpatrickFlying_Eagle: I have that bug too05:37
Flying_Eaglek05:38
kkathmanits probably a 3.5 anomaly05:38
Flying_Eaglei wasnt sure IF its a bu05:38
Flying_Eagleg05:38
_ismaelI have a kubuntu breezy and I have install my printer. It's detected but when I try go up  the server cups, it's impossible05:38
kkathmanmost all of the 3.5 apps have some problems, because they were not synched with 3.5...at least not yet05:38
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kkathmanthats why people should wait on it, imho05:38
jpatrickFlying_Eagle: shout about it @ http://bugs.kde.org05:38
lwizardlhi05:39
mister_robotokkathman: I took a look at the dbdesigner page. what makes you think it's a UML tool?05:39
jpatrickfirst search :)05:39
_ismaelhhiiiiiiiiiii05:39
kkathmanmister_roboto: I've used it for sometime and it is :)05:39
Flying_Eaglejpatrick, this would be something like _work_...05:39
mister_robotokkathman: does it do all the UML diagrams/05:39
Noelasbobobob333, thank you for the link,  I was on the phone05:39
lwizardlcan i use gedit to edit my video card monitor settings05:39
Noelasthank you very much05:39
kkathmanwell maybe not a UML tool per se...but a Database Design tool which I really need05:40
kkathmanmister_roboto: ERD's yes, UML...I thought so, but perhaps not05:40
kkathmanbut definitely ERDS05:40
_ismaelhelp me please!!!!!!!!!05:40
kkathmantypically most packages that do one, do the other05:40
mister_robotokkathman: uhhhh  ERD is not a UML diagram05:40
kkathmanyes I know05:40
bobobob333Noelas: np05:41
mister_robotokkathman: i have not seen one such tool (does both)05:41
kkathmanmister_roboto: I know several commercial tools that do both05:41
mister_robotokkathman: such as?05:41
kkathmanCompass05:41
kkathmanthats the one our developers use at our corp office05:41
kkathmanthere are a couple of others I would need to get the names of05:42
kkathmanone is really popular05:42
kkathmananyway...Im sorry to send you on a wild goose chase :)05:42
kkathmanappreciate your attention :)05:42
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mister_robotokkathman: trying to find the compass page...05:42
kkathmanI believe thats what its called...maybe Kompass or something like that...I hear them talk about it all the time05:43
_ismaelhii05:45
kkathmanmister_roboto: on the low end I think SmartDraw does the basics of the drawing I think05:45
Noelasis kubuntu as good as ubuntu,  or are there development differences?   Is it maybe better to install  ubuntu,  and then  KDE ?05:46
jpatrickNoelas: yes05:46
jpatrick(for first question)05:47
mister_robotokkathman: what i'm looking for specifically is a UML tool that maintains the semantics across diagrams. if i create a class on the class diagram, i expect to be able to stick it on a sequence diagram and call operations on it without having to retype the operation names... that sort of thing.05:47
mister_robotokkathman: not something that just draws the symbols05:47
kkathmanAhh I remember the product now...its Erwin05:48
kkathmanthats the other one that our company uses05:48
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kkathmanI think its by Computer Associates05:48
jpatrickhello libben05:48
libbenello05:48
libben+h05:48
libbenfinally friday05:49
libbenjust got of work.05:49
jpatricklibben: I've got a school holiday :)05:49
libbensomeones lucky =)05:49
kkathmanmister_roboto: the Kompas...its OR-Compass05:49
kkathmanthats the product05:49
jpatrickthen again a have a 8-page essay to write05:49
jpatrickby Monday05:50
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libbenim planning to educate myself to linux tech or mac tech.05:50
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mister_robotokkathman: last time i used erwin (couple of years ago) it did not do UML. are you sure it does UML now?05:50
hussamCan somebody help? OO.o 1.9.129 keeps crashing on me when I save a .doc file after inserting an image into the document.05:50
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djk_hussam: try #openoffice.org05:52
kkathmanmister_roboto: from a FOSS standpoint I hear that ArgoUML is very good, but I've never used it05:52
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kkathmanmister_roboto: Erwin...not sure..its an older tool that was used...I believe OR-Compass is an older tool also.05:53
mister_robotokkathman: yes, it is. but it's called poseidon now and it's what i've been using :)   (gentleware.com)05:53
kkathmanmister_roboto: ArgoUML = Poseidon?05:54
kkathmanor OR-Compass?05:54
mister_robotokkathman: but poseidon is not free for commercial use, only for personal use      yes, argo is now poseidon05:54
hussamdjk_: I did, they said I should upgrade to 2.0.0 although I can't since kubuntu has 1.9.12905:54
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kkathmanohhh it used to be F/OSS though didnt it?05:54
djk_hussam: you can...05:54
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kkathmanmister_roboto: anyway...I apologize for sending you down a road you didnt necessarily wish to traverse :)05:55
hussamdjk_: there is no 2.0 backport yet, unless I am mistaken05:56
djk_hussam: add this: deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~doko/OOo2/ ./   to your sources.list05:56
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mister_robotokkathman:  ummm hold on... i think i'm wrong.   looks like poseidon is a fork of argo but argo seems to be maintained by tigris now05:56
IULIUS23rohi all05:56
mister_roboto(argouml.tigris.org)05:56
kkathmanI just need a good Design tool that will allow me to visually design a relational architected DB, then create a SQL upload file to things like phpmyadmin05:56
kkathmanthats why DBDesigner4 was very attractive...works VERY good on windows.05:57
IULIUS23roi need an iptables with gui?05:57
kkathmanIULIUS23ro: I dunno do you?05:57
hussamdjk_: how do I know if this crash is actually fixed in 2.0 final?05:57
IULIUS23rowho can tell me a software05:58
IULIUS23roi need an iptables with gui05:58
IULIUS23ro:))05:58
kkathmanIULIUS23ro: firestarter05:58
IULIUS23roty05:58
jpatrickIULIUS23ro: Guarddog05:59
djk_hussam: i don't know. but if the OOo people said so, it probably is.05:59
kkathmanjpatrick: another good one05:59
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kkathmanfunny that kubuntu doesnt seem to have a gui tools for iptables accessible...unless I've missed it06:00
jpatrickkkathman: Guarddog's cool06:00
mister_robotokkathman:  FYI, from argo's page on tigris...    ArgoUML is licensed under the BSD license which also allows extensions to be commercialized.06:00
mister_robotoThe company Gentleware offers such an extension under the name Poseidon for UML.06:00
lwizardlcan i use gedit to edit my video card monitor settings?06:00
kkathmanI dont use iptables, because I have a hard firewall with my router06:00
kkathmanmister_roboto: ahh ok06:01
kkathmanlwizardl: gedit is a gnome text file editor06:01
jpatricklwizardl: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:02
lwizardlkkathman: i know i've got both gnome and kde installed and can use gnome apps in kde fine06:02
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jpatricklwizardl: or use: `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg`06:03
lwizardlbecuase i need my max res size06:03
lwizardli don't like 1024x76806:03
jpatricklwizardl: type: `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg` into the konsole06:04
lwizardlok06:04
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lwizardlnow its asking questions06:05
lwizardlnv or nvidia?06:05
freeloveupgraded to kde 3.5........now i dont see shutdown or restart option....only end session!!!!:(06:05
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hussamRiddell: hi, is there going to be an update for kde 3.4.3 for this? http://www.kde.org/info/security/advisory-20051207-1.txt06:06
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jpatrickhussam: I think that's what he's working on06:07
hussamjpatrick: ok cool.06:07
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jpatrickhussam: "[15:59:59]  * Riddell appologies for the delay in service today, caused by multiple xpdf nonsense"06:08
freeloveupgraded to kde 3.5........now i dont see shutdown or restart option....only end session!!!!:( plz help me...........06:08
jpatrickfreelove: you logged-in via startx06:08
hussamjpatrick: oh, sorry I missed that06:08
_ismaelhb06:08
jpatrickfreelove: thus there is no shut down button06:08
freelovejpatrick: when will my woes end....now ive to reinstall ubuntu...then kubuntu-desktop......this kubuntu clean install is giving me endless probs:(06:09
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freelovehow do i know whats my IP address?06:20
jpatrickfreelove: www.showmyip.com06:20
laser_tkmyip.dk06:20
freeloveand without internet is there a way to know the IP address?06:22
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hussamfreeloveL ifconfig06:24
freelove huh? then what does hostname -i do??06:25
kkathmanfreelove: just run ifconfig and you can get your ip address06:25
kkathmanif you are connected of course :)06:26
djk_or just  ip a06:28
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freelovedjk_: what does hostname -i do?06:29
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vblantonanyone know how to get the utility unrar so I can open .rar files?06:31
crimsun!info unrar-nonfree06:32
ubotuunrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 83 kB, Installed size: 216 kB06:32
kkathmanhowdy crimsun :)06:32
kkathmanfreelove  type man hostname at a konsole06:33
crimsunhey kkathman :)06:33
Tm_Thello all06:33
djk_why is the unrar-free version even in the repos when it doesn't work anyway?06:34
kkathmanfreelove: when you are unsure what a command does, try "man" on the command at a console and that will tell you06:34
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crimsundjk_: ...because it's Free, as in DFSG-free.06:34
crimsundjk_: and it does work for archives created with rar 2.x06:34
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freeloveok....thanks.......06:34
djk_crimsun: yea okay, but rar 2.x is a bit old ..06:35
crimsundjk_: still supportable06:35
djk_i suppose so.06:35
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Tm_Tdjk_: and it's easy to avoid whole rar, just don't download "warez"06:36
Tm_Tand hit all your friends who uses rar packaging06:37
djk_Tm_T: aha.. rar is now connected with warez..06:37
kkathmannot everything in rars are warez tho06:37
Tm_Tnot all, see the second line of mine =)06:37
kkathmanrar isnt bad, but I like things that cross platform :)06:38
kkathmanand are a bit more contemporary06:38
Tm_Tyu06:38
Tm_Twell, that little what I know about warez scene, they mostly use rar packaging06:38
djk_mostly..06:39
kkathmanwell that and illegal movies06:39
kkathmanbut maybe you call that warez also06:39
Tm_Taye06:39
Tm_TI used rar something like 8 years ago06:39
kkathmanyeah06:39
kkathmanits old school for sure06:39
Tm_Tfound it restrictive in that time06:39
djk_kkathman: most releases are splitted into rars ..only later on in the chain you find unrared movies/etc ;)06:39
kkathmanbut still alot of people use it for very large files06:40
kkathmanwhich makes sense I guess06:40
Tm_Tkkathman: to me it doesn't make sense06:40
freelovenews! i'll be doing clean install of edubuntu tomorrow:)....and replace buggy kubuntu:(06:40
Tm_Tfreelove: nooooooooooooooooooo06:40
kkathmanTm_T: well the original purpose of rars, was to take a, say, 200-300mb file, and allow progressive download...i.e. for people on dialup06:41
Tm_T(going on endlessly echoing in the sky)06:41
freelovelol....what to do when kubuntu gives me so many probs:(06:41
kkathmanand also a way to repair or get missing pieces without downloading the whole thing06:41
kkathmanso to that end..it was ok06:41
Tm_Tkkathman: hm, what's differences to better supported formats?06:42
kkathmanfreelove: take them one by one and fix them,  or start over and re-install06:42
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kkathmanTm_T: Oh..I agree...better formats (more contemporary) are better...but back then that was a good, safe approach06:42
kkathmanand it made sense06:42
freelovekkathman: ive reinstalled kubuntu tons of times....dont wanna do it again....06:42
freelovebut good news is: i'll be installing kubuntu-desktop over edubuntu:D06:42
Tm_Tkkathman: err, back then, arj and zip was more widely supported and did the same job I think06:43
kkathmanfreelove: I dont know what you are doing then...Ive installed it maybe 10-15 times and never had one single problem...this is on a variety of hardware also06:43
freelovethat way ive seen that things work quite flawlessly......06:43
kkathmanwell maybe your problem is that...you keep installing over things :)06:43
kkathmanrather than cleanly06:43
freelovekkathman: my luck......what else can i say.....but hoary never gave me any probs...and niether did ubuntu/edubuntu breezy......06:44
kkathmanif you REALLY want to get a clean install...install UBUNTU, then apt-get kubuntu-desktop06:44
djk_crimsun: why isn't unace2.5 in the repos? unace 1.2 really doesn't work for anything..06:44
freelovekkathman: jus now i did CLEAN install wiping off my home & / :)06:44
kkathmanfreelove: dont know what to tell you...I just havent had a single install prob with any release06:44
djk_kkathman: are you saying that installing kubuntu right away is a dirty install :p06:44
freelovekkathman: :(06:44
kkathmanno djk06:44
freelovedjk_: yes06:44
freeloveinstalling it ON TOP of ubuntu or edubuntu makes things work....but only for me i guess:(06:45
kkathmanfreelove: what other problems do you experience?06:45
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kkathmanlets dont throw the baby out with the bathwater06:45
Flammiahey... what's the Linux equivalent to ipconfig??06:46
kkathmanFlammia: ifconfig06:46
Flammiathanks06:46
kkathmannp06:46
Flammiaand I'd throw the baby out... those things are nothing but trouble06:46
freelovekkathman: kdm just wont start....ive to login in console mode...then startx manually........this gives rise to another prob....i dont see shutdown option when i log out......06:46
freelovekkathman: plus my pppoe connection isnt started at boot-time......06:47
kkathmanfreelove: when you say "it wont start"  how far does it get?06:47
freeloveit simply lands me into console mode...with the login prompt...06:47
freeloveive to login this way...then do startx06:48
freeloveonly then kde starts...06:48
kkathmanok06:48
kkathmanwell thats easy to fix... you get a normal splash screen then?06:48
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freeloveanyways forget it......i'd love to have edubuntu:) with kde.......06:48
freelovekkathman: yes splash screen is there......06:48
freelovekkathman: u know any fixes?06:49
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kkathmanfreelove: it sounds as if something went haywire with your inittab06:50
kkathmanthat would cause your runlevel to be wrong and not have shutdown options06:51
freelovei dunno...but i didnt mess with an config files or did anything......06:51
kkathmanbecause your internet didnt start...that could be a prob with inetd06:51
Flammiacan Linux machines read CDs burnt in Windows XP??06:51
crimsunFlammia: yes06:51
Flammiahmmmm..... thanks...06:52
kkathmanso...what this all sounds like is that during the install, the kubuntu process in encountering some sort of exception situation06:52
freelovekkathman: someone told me that bcoz i started kde with startx, so i dont see shutdown option.......06:52
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kkathmanfreelove: I wonder if your are answering the install questions correctly06:52
freeloveexception situation? like what? and why ubuntu doesnt give such probs?06:52
freelovekkathman: it doesnt ask too many install questions06:53
kkathmanfreelove: I dont know you need to check some of your config files like inittab and inetd, etc and compare them to someone that has a working kubuntu06:53
freelovekkathman: i dont know any geeky linux fans in my city......so its no use....im waiting for dapper:) i'd love to see kubuntu boot faster and more stable..06:54
kkathmancrimsun might know which config file the kdm=kde statement goes in06:55
kkathmanfreelove: please qualify that...kubuntu/ubuntu install and boot very well and very stable...its you that is having an issue06:56
kkathmandapper wont change that I dont think06:56
freelovehmm....on a diff note it would be better if edubuntu were kde-based...kids would like it more:D06:56
insanekanefreelove: :)06:56
kkathmanfreelove: if you DID install ubuntu with no problems, why didnt you just do an apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?06:56
freelovekkathman: but i saw it in goals wiki...that a faster boot is on the cards......06:56
manverumake the way free for kedubuntu! :)06:57
kkathmanfreelove: I meant the stability06:57
manveruthe future of ubuntu is e17 ^^06:57
kkathmanlol06:57
kkathmani doubt that..but who knows :)06:58
freelovekkathman: i did that.....but i thought lets try clean install of kubutnu again...maybe it'll work? but it didnt.....but i did save my var/cache/apt/archives folder:)06:58
kkathmanok06:58
manverukkathman: well, give it a year or two... this project sure has energy to get its own eubuntu or something06:58
freelovemanveru: u mean kubuntu? long live kubuntu:D06:59
manveruwell, it will live07:00
manveruespecially with the release of KDE4.007:00
freeloveyummmyyyyy07:01
manverubut i really love my e17 too...07:02
dipnlikhi all. I really liked the DejaVu Condensed fonts, and now i'm looking for a good monospaced font. what do you suggest me to use?07:03
manverutoo bad kontact doesn't work well with it...07:03
manverudipnlik: that's a mater of taste...07:03
manveru+t07:03
manveruyou really want us to vote for the look of your desktop?07:04
dipnlikmanveru: no, i want you to vote for good monospaced fonts07:04
manveruno idea... give me a choice :)07:04
dipnlikmanveru: ok, not "good" fonts, but "fonts you like"07:04
manverui really like the 'Linux' font ^^07:05
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manverubut to be honest, i never ever looked up what fonts i use... i'm fine with the standards07:05
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dipnlikmanveru: i like the antialiasing (or something) effect that the Courier 10 Pitch font has07:06
bobobob333I love Bitsream, personally07:06
manveruif there was a font named 'MonoSpaced' i would go for it07:07
dipnlikbobobob333: me too. but I want something with the effect that Courier 10 Pitch has, is is very pretty07:07
dipnlikbobobob333: a Bitstream or DejaVu with these "effects" would be great07:08
manverui lived with KDE before there was any anti-aliasing and almost didn't notice the transition to anti-aliasing... despite of the fact that i see the text on my screen all day long...07:09
freeloveok ive to go now.....goodnight all:)07:09
manverufreelove: gn8 - sleep tight :)07:09
dipnlikmanveru: there is a Monospace here, very nice indeed.07:09
freelovemanveru: :D07:09
dipnlikmanveru: I liked Bitstream and no antialiasing before starting to use DejaVu Condensed with antialias07:09
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Tm_Thttp://www.kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/foo/fonts-1.png07:10
Tm_Tmy font settings ;)07:10
manveruhmm, no idea what fonts i have... *goes digging*07:11
manveruDejaVu Sans, all over...07:11
FlammiaIs it normal to have to unmount a CD before being able to eject it??07:11
manveruFlammia: yeah07:11
manveruusing the desktop-icon>right-click>eject should handle that automatically though07:12
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dipnlikTm_T: will take a look :)07:13
dipnlikTm_T: oh, weird! :P07:14
Tm_Tdipnlik: what's weird?07:14
dipnlikTm_T: monospace everywhere07:14
Tm_Tofcourse07:15
Tm_Tthere's nothing weird in it07:15
manverumonospace feels good07:15
dipnlikTm_T: it looks weird, but maybe i'll try it someday07:15
manverufor programmers i suppose07:15
Tm_Thaha07:15
dipnlikLOL07:16
Tm_Tdipnlik: ah, and that monospace mod ... it's my mod based on crystal clear07:16
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manveruTm_T: your settings feel good on my screen - reminded me to change Konversation to monospaced as well...07:17
Tm_Theh07:18
dipnlikTm_T: one more to your team :)07:18
djk_mmh, just played something in wine and now my screen is 640*480..07:18
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manverubut i have the general size to 9... it's too hard to read otherwise07:19
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Tm_Tmanveru: it depends07:19
manveruof course07:19
djk_actually, the resolution still is 1280*1024. but everything i displayed in a 640*480 size..how do i fix that07:21
Flammiahey... anyone in here use .OGM files??07:21
manverudjk_: restart X?07:22
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manverudjk_: nah, there is some setting in kcontrol for resolution07:22
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djk_manveru: that setting _is_ 1280*1024...07:23
manveruchange it, change it back, apply07:23
manverusomething _should07:23
manveru_ happen...07:23
djk_thanks..07:24
musashidenhmm, when i try to do sudo -s, i get this error07:25
musashidensudo: timestamp too far in the future: Dec  9 23:09:59 200507:25
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musashidenwhat does it means?07:25
manveruhmm, you've got windows on your pc?07:25
musashidennope07:25
musashidenjust kubuntu breezy07:25
manveruthat's interesting then :)07:26
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manveruyou're some timezones ahead07:26
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manverumusashiden: try following - go to bios, change you pc-clock about 5 hours back07:26
manveruon next start, linux should correct the time07:27
manveru(somebody got a better idea?)07:27
musashidenok, will do. thanks for the help07:27
djk_manveru: changing the clock within linux?07:27
manveruplease check back to tell if it worked out07:27
musashidenok07:27
manverudjk_: you did read that :)07:27
manverui feel like giving hackish advice today...07:28
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dipnlikmanveru: ok, now tell me a hack to download mp3 files from gmail using konqueror (it plays the file on the embedded player here =\ )07:30
manveruuse wget... :)07:30
manveruor use right mouse-click07:30
dipnlikmanveru: right mouse doesn't work07:30
dipnliks/mouse/click/07:31
manveruyou could delete the .mp3 extension from konqueror07:31
manverubut that's a bit too intrusive07:31
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manveruhow about using dillo/firefox/lynx whatever?07:32
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manveruhmm07:33
manveruno07:33
manveruthere was some combination of ctrl|alt+mouse07:33
manverui guess you could even take the link, copy it in a mail, send it to yourself, rightclick the link and save it07:34
manveruor use gmailfs... you could dl it directly then :)07:34
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musashidenok, that fixed the time issue07:35
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musashidenand now i need help with compiling kinstaller07:36
musashideni get this error:07:36
jpatrickmusashiden: use pastebin if big07:37
musashidenchecking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!07:37
musashidenits just one line :)07:37
manveru!xincludes07:37
ubotuWhen a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev07:37
manverumusashiden: btw, good to know it worked :)07:38
musashidenuh huh07:38
dipnlikmanveru: guess i'll remove the mp3 entry from konqi :P07:39
manverudipnlik: you are really bound to konqueror?07:40
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dipnlikmanveru: in fact I prefer Opera, but konqueror is nice, i'd really like to use it as my default browser :S07:40
manveruhmm, i use my browsers as needed...07:41
manverueven did my own light-weight ruby/qt browser :) [using the kio-interface of course] 07:41
manverusince konqueror takes some time to start on my old hardware07:42
dipnlikmanveru: P3 550, 128 MB RAM here, acceptable performance07:43
jpatrickdipnlik: same here07:44
manverubut it still takes ~3 seconds...07:44
The_AceHi, just switched from slackware to kubuntu, how do manually install packages that I've downloaded to my local harddrive?07:44
manveru!apt-get07:45
ubotusomebody said apt-get was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/07:45
jpatrickThe_Ace: `sudo dpkg -i  <package name>.deb`07:45
dipnlikmanveru: haha, you're really hard you your hardware, things here take let's say 10 seconds to start :P07:45
The_Acethank you07:45
manveruof course :)07:46
manverui want instant browsing07:46
dipnliklynx comes to the rescue /o/07:46
dipnliklinks2 -g :)07:47
manveruw3m here :)07:47
hussamhow can I find the md5 sum of an iso image?07:47
manverumd5sum file07:47
hussamthat is any iso image07:47
dipnlikmanveru: no, links2 -g , way better! :P07:47
musashidenhmm, another compilation error07:47
jpatrickmusashiden: yes?07:47
manverumusashiden: kde headers?07:47
musashidenyah07:48
musashidenkde headers07:48
manverui just forgot the command for ubotu...07:48
musashidenlol07:48
manveru!kde-sources07:48
ubotumanveru: Do they come in packets of five?07:48
jpatrickmusashiden: kdelibs4-dev07:48
musashidenthanks07:48
manveruyeah :)07:48
manveru!kdelibs07:48
ubotuNot a clue, manveru07:48
manveruhmm, i really have to learn them more07:48
musashidenerr, wth?07:49
musashidenE: Broken packages07:49
hussammanveru: md5sum file.iso retruns nothing07:49
manveruit should07:49
manverubut it takes some time07:49
jpatrickhussam: http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#tipsntrix07:49
musashidenwhat do they mean by the packages being broken? :/07:49
jpatrickmusashiden: unable to install07:50
manverumusashiden: what are you trying to compile?07:50
musashidenkinstaller07:50
jpatrickmanveru: kinstaller07:50
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manveru?07:50
manveru!info kinstaller07:50
manveruwhat the heck is that?07:50
musashidengoogle it :)07:50
hussammanveru, jpatrick: it worked but it did take a while07:51
hussamthanks07:51
jpatrickmanveru: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=1946407:51
manveruhmm07:51
manverui really prefer checkinstaller07:51
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jpatrickmanveru: i prefer dpkg-buildpackage :)07:52
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manveru^^07:52
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musashidenso anyways, how can i fix this broken packages error?07:53
manveruwell, checkinstall being a frontend for that07:53
manverumusashiden: when we know what exactly is broken we might help07:53
jpatrickmusashiden: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com07:53
musashidenlibarts1-dev07:53
musashidenthats the broken package07:54
jpatrickmusashiden: remove that07:54
musashidenDepends: libarts1-dev (>= 1.4.0) but it is not going to be installed07:54
jpatrickah07:54
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musashidenwell?..07:55
jpatricksudo apt-get updaet07:55
jpatrickupdate*07:55
musashideniam still getting the same error07:56
ClayGare you using non ubuntu repos in your sources.list?07:56
ClayGThis has been the cause of that error time and time again for me.07:57
jpatrickmusashiden: what arch are you on?07:57
musashidenkubuntu breezy07:57
musashidenClayG: just the amarok deb line07:57
jpatrickmusashiden: i386, amd64?07:57
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musashidenjpatrick: i38607:58
jpatrickmusashiden: gimme a few minutes I'll package it for you07:58
musashidenthanks07:58
naliothmusashiden: that would do it07:58
naliothit is not advised to use non ubuntu pkgs, because of problems like this07:58
ClayGnalioth: has told me a few things, that when doubted; resulted in problems07:58
ClayGone time I couldnt even access my computer07:59
jpatricknalioth: I make packages for Kubuntu07:59
musashidennalioth: its just the latest amarok package. i dont thing it has much to do with the kde libs07:59
musashidenoh, cool. a developer :o08:00
naliothjpatrick: i'm just stating a known fact about mixing repos08:00
naliothjpatrick: by all means pkg away :)08:00
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jpatricknalioth: glad to!08:00
jpatricknalioth: did you say something?08:01
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musashidenakward08:02
jpatrickmusashiden: I'm doing it08:02
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musashidenhmm?08:03
lwizardlhi08:03
naliothjpatrick: just a /notice08:03
jpatrickwant PM?08:03
lwizardlanyone have luck with rars?08:03
musashidenlwizardl: nope08:03
musashidenjpatrick: me?08:03
jpatrickmusashiden: no nalioth08:04
musashidenoh08:04
lwizardli have unrar installed but nothing seems to understand them08:04
jpatricklwizardl: multiverse08:04
lwizardljpatrick: i have multiverse and universe enabled already08:04
crimsunit's called unrar-nonfree08:04
naliothlwizardl: use unrar-nonfree08:05
angasuleis it possible to install just a certain package from multiverse? like unrar-nonfree?08:05
naliothangasule: of course08:05
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Roeyhi08:05
Roeyanyone here use Xen on kernel 2.6.14.3? can it be done?08:05
lwizardlPackage unrar-nonfree is not available08:05
crimsunwith vanilla 2.6.14.3? yes.08:05
angasuleI don't want anything else from multiverse, so, anything in special I should do?08:05
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naliothubotu: tell angasule about repos08:06
angasulegood ubotu08:06
angasulethanks nalioth08:06
jpatrickmusashiden: I'm making your pkg as fast as I can :)08:06
naliothangasule: enable universe and multiverse repos, update your apt, and i think you'll find more than one intersting thing08:06
ClayGjust dont mess with automatix, whatever you do08:06
musashidenjpatrick: take your time, iam not in a hurry to get kinstaller fixed08:06
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musashidenjpatrick: so once you get the pkg done i just do apt-get update then apt-get upgrade ?08:07
jpatrickmusashiden: no08:07
jpatrickmusashiden: dpkg -i08:07
angasulenalioth: I already have universe, but I don't generally want multiverse stuff (just unrar for now)08:07
jpatricknalioth: if you want see: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuPackagingGuide08:08
naliothangasule: haveing multiverse enabled doesnt make you use any of it08:08
ClayGis there a command line program that works like thunderbird? where I dont need to to with fetchmail or getmail?08:08
musashidenjpatrick: oh, gotcha08:08
angasuleok, just wanted to be sure, thanks08:08
paguxhello friends08:08
pagux:-)08:08
hussammanveru, jpatrick: is there anyway I can check the CD after I burn the image against the md5sum I obtained earlier?08:09
paguxhow i can set up path variable at start up and other evniorment variables08:09
paguxin rhel i used to do it in /etc/profile08:10
crimsunsystem-wide or per-user?08:10
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naliothubotu: tell hussam about verify08:10
paguxboth08:10
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paguxsome system some user08:10
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crimsunpagux: ...system-wide is inherited by users.08:10
crimsunpagux: you'd change /etc/profile08:10
crimsunpagux: per-user, assuming bash, use ~/.bashrc and make sure it's uncommented in ~/.bash_profile08:11
paguxi did that my path is not getting changed08:11
pagux:-(08:11
crimsunwhat did you do?08:11
Roeyhey cr08:12
Roeycrimsun:08:12
chaoticgeekubotu: hi08:12
chaoticgeekhey all08:12
ubotuguten tag, chaoticgeek08:12
Roeycrimsun:  I've learned how to use fakeroot/make-kpkg08:12
hussamnalioth: want to verify the physical burned CD not the iso image08:12
paguxadded lines08:12
Roeycrimsun:  thank you for pointing it to me all those months ago.08:12
crimsunRoey: np08:13
crimsunpagux: please be more precise08:13
naliothhussam: that can be verified in the same manner  md5sum /dev/cdrom  iirc08:13
angasulehmm, it seems to be downloading packages from backports when I hit upgrade08:13
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naliothangasule: do you have backports enabled?08:15
jpatrickmusashiden: please wait - building-package08:16
ClayGnalioth: since ubuntu can't use debian repos...is it the same with debian, can they use ubuntu repos?08:17
musashidenjpatrick: i told you, take your time.08:18
naliothClayG: i dont think either one would benefit08:18
jpatrickClayG: if they rebuild the pkgs from src08:18
ClayGbut would you say there are more debian packages out there than ubuntu?08:18
naliothClayG: as jpatrick says, you can have all the "source" debian repos you like08:18
ClayGwell you could have all the "source" rpm also rifht?08:19
ClayGsince source is compiled on your machine?08:19
ClayGI mean I figure you can have source ,whatever you want. it's a source08:19
angasulenalioth: I enabled the servers labeled multiverse08:19
ClayGI guess the question is what makes ubuntu better than debian, to you?08:20
naliothangasule: do you have a line in your sources.list with "backports" in it?08:20
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ClayGseems like they both have apt-get and synaptic, but one can apt-get a whole lot more tha the other :(08:21
chaoticgeekhello?08:21
angasulenalioth: yeah, same as multiverse08:21
naliothangasule: that is why you're getting stuff from backports08:22
angasulenalioth: I thought I wouldn't be getting stuff from that repo unless I installed a package from it...08:22
hussamnalioth: thanks that worked08:23
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naliothangasule: the apt-get or adept doesnt show you which repos the pkgs are from08:24
angasulenalioth: I didn't install any packages, just hit upgrade08:24
naliothangasule: and when any pkgs you have installed, lands in backports as a newer version, you'll get it that way08:25
angasuleso how do I get rid of the backports stuff now? disable that repo and 'upgrade' again?08:25
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melonganybody in?08:25
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jpatrickmelong:  everyone08:26
naliothangasule: you'll be fine, backports are as safe as universe and multiverse08:26
melongok then... how do i install packages with kubuntu.. it doesnt seem to have a package manger08:26
jpatrickmelong: Adept08:26
musashidenyup, Adept08:27
melongyeah... no option to choose my own package08:27
jpatrickmelong: dpkg -i <package name>08:27
angasulenalioth: that's not what it says, anyway, next time someone asks "will it install from that repo automatically" answer "yes"...08:27
naliothangasule: i personally don't like the fact that backports comes enabled by default08:28
jpatricknalioth:  doesn't08:28
jpatrickit*08:28
jpatricknor does universe08:29
melonghaza08:29
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melongthanks :)08:29
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angasulebest thing is, unrar doesn't seem to be available?08:31
angasulethe nonfree version, I mean, doesn't show up in the list08:31
jpatrickmusashiden: package done08:32
jpatrickmusashiden: here: http://trunk.siteburg.com/pkgs/kinstaller_0.2-0ubuntu1_i386.deb08:32
jpatricksorry it's a crap server08:32
naliothangasule: did you update your apt after enabling the repos?08:32
angasuleyes08:33
lwizardlcan someone help me with getting rars to unpackage08:34
lwizardli have unrar-free installed but the nonfree one can't be found by aptget08:35
angasulelwizardl: same here08:35
manveru!sources08:35
crimsunlwizardl: did you add the multiverse repository?08:35
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ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic08:35
lwizardlboth uni & multi08:35
crimsunlwizardl: (rather, uncomment and update)08:35
nalioth!info unrar-nonfree08:35
ubotuunrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 83 kB, Installed size: 216 kB08:35
crimsunlwizardl: what's the output from ''apt-cache policy unrar-nonfree''?08:36
crimsunuse #flood08:36
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angasulecrimsun: two (none)08:38
lwizardlcrimsun: ok i did08:38
crimsunangasule: err?08:39
crimsunlwizardl: output in #flood?08:39
angasulecrimsun: that command says it's not installed and there's no candidate08:39
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crimsunangasule: join #flood and paste the output from ''grep multiverse /etc/apt/sources.list''08:40
manverucrimsun: he said it already...08:40
manveruangasule: in this case you have a incomplete sources.list08:40
manveruangasule: please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl and paste it08:41
crimsunmanveru: where did he paste the output from ''grep multiverse /etc/apt/sources.list''?08:41
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manveru[20:39]  <angasule> crimsun: that command says it's not installed and there's no candidate08:41
crimsunangasule: those are breezy-backports, not breezy08:41
angasulei pasted to flood08:41
crimsunmanveru: that's not what I asked for (I didn't ask him for apt-cache policy output)08:41
lwizardlso did i just now08:42
crimsunlwizardl: same for you.08:42
manverucrimsun: uh, my apologies :)08:42
jpatrickmusashiden: ping08:42
crimsunmanveru: / lwizardl: both of you need to uncomment the line for breezy, not breezy-backports08:42
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crimsunerr, sorry08:43
manverunp ^^08:43
crimsunangasule: you need to uncomment the line for breezy, not breezy-backports08:43
angasuleno other line with multiverse08:43
crimsunok, then you need to add ''deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy multiverse''08:44
angasuleok, is it safe to remove the backports repo? will it remove tha packages (downgrade)?08:44
lwizardlok what was the command again for editing the sources08:44
crimsunangasule: it's safe to comment out the breezy-backports repo if you wish08:45
angasuleand will it remove the packages it 'upgraded'?08:45
crimsunlwizardl: just do this: Open a Konsole, and type the following: echo "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy multiverse" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list08:46
crimsunlwizardl: then, sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install unrar-nonfree08:46
crimsunangasule: no, it simply removes the repository reference08:46
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angasulefrack, so I got a bunch of potentially unstable packages installed now...08:47
crimsunangasule: you just won't be able to use apt-based tools to install packages from that repository unless you add it back08:47
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jpatrickwb _thumper_09:02
_thumper_jpatrick, what's wb?09:03
jpatrickwelcome back09:03
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_thumper_ah, had dns problems09:03
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_thumper_jpatrick, you do kubuntuforums.org don't you?09:04
jpatrick_thumper_: yep09:04
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_thumper_jpatrick, love the new functionality, but having problems with the blog09:04
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jpatrick_thumper_: only problem I've had is that my desktop's too big to big uploaded09:05
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_thumper_jpatrick, the blog uses a fancy wysiwyg editor that almost works09:06
_thumper_I was trying to post some C++ code, but it strips all the < and >09:06
_thumper_and leaves &lt; and &gt; like that09:06
_thumper_really frustrating09:06
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_thumper_jpatrick, do you know who to talk to about this?09:07
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[Relic] xfered datafiles from win to linux.  All of them are marked executable.  Since they all reside in one dir with bunch of subdirs what is the quickest way to convert them to not having the executable flag?09:08
jpatrick_thumper_: I see you've #include-d nothing09:08
Insom-find . -type f -exec chmod-x {} \;09:08
_thumper_jpatrick, well it was <string> and <boost/lexical_cast.hpp> but those got skipped ;)09:08
Insom-eh make that chmod -x09:08
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jpatrick_thumper_: I haven't tried the boost headers09:09
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manveruchmod -R -x *09:09
_thumper_jpatrick, do much C++09:09
_thumper_?09:09
[Relic] that won't effect the subdirs so they will still be visible?09:09
jpatrickI try to09:09
lwizardlcrimsun: ok did that said installed nonfree09:09
Insom-manveru: will that affect dirs?09:09
Reilithion!search09:09
ubotusearch is, like, totally, System>Administration>Synaptic, has a search function. Command line are apt-cache search "packagename", or aptitude search "packagename", or you can also do a package search via http://packages.ubuntu.com/<package>09:09
lwizardlhow do i check?09:09
manveruInsom-: everything09:10
_thumper_jpatrick, I really suggest looking at the boost libraries, or just watch the blog providing I can get posting code to work09:10
Insom-manveru: that's not what he was looking for ;)09:10
jpatrick_thumper_: I'm so newbie I know how to #include <iostream> and use it >:(09:10
_thumper_jpatrick, new to programming or just C++?09:10
jpatrickI started it about 10 months ago09:11
_thumper_which one?09:11
jpatrickC++ (first language)09:11
_thumper_I also frequent the programming section of ubuntuforums.org09:11
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_thumper_Hmm.. interesting language to learn first09:11
_thumper_Have you had a look at Accelerated C++ by Koenig and Moo?09:12
jpatrick_thumper_: you're the one who taught me howto compile on Linux :P09:12
_thumper_jpatrick, ha, ha... love it ;)09:12
Insom-[Relic] : the find command above only affects files09:12
Insom-[Relic] : (hence the -type f)09:13
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Mic_haelgood evening! where can I assign keyboard shortcuts to sound volume? I had this in ubuntu gnome, but in kubuntu I can't find it09:15
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Insom-Mic_hael: start kmix, then in the menu: settings > configure shortcuts09:17
[Relic] figured out how to get them modified  :)09:18
Mic_haelthanks! I'll have a look at that09:18
Insom-Mic_hael: right click on the speaker system tray icon and select show mixer window to get the mixer window09:19
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Mic_haelseems to be the right place... assinging Fn+PageUp doesn't work however, so I'll have to use another combination than in Gnome... Thanks anyway09:23
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darryl!search mk09:26
ubotudarryl: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?09:26
darryllol09:26
darrylhello09:26
darrylanybody out there?09:26
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manverudamn, just was about to answer him09:30
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_sanderHi! Is there going to be a Human-like theme for Kubuntu too?09:31
manveruHuman-like?09:31
_sanderlike the Human theme in Gnome09:31
manveruwith five fingers and these stingy eyes?09:31
manveruuhm, dunno09:32
_sanderwell, that's an idea too, but I meant the desktop theme :-)09:32
manverunever heard about it09:32
[Relic] make one :)09:32
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_sanderI've never made any desktop themes, is that hard?09:32
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kkathmancrimsun you around?09:33
neoncodeis compileing programs as root (useing sudo) dangourus?09:33
crimsunkkathman: hi09:33
manveru  neoncode yeah09:33
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crimsunthis cap-identify really screws up nick-highlighting for me09:33
manveruneoncode: compared to crossing the street it is relatively dangerous09:34
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kkathmancrimsun are you familiar with php - mysql under Linux?09:34
crimsunno, not a LAMP guy09:34
crimsun(sorry)09:34
kkathmanknow anyone that is?09:35
kkathmanhehe09:35
crimsunmost everyone else? ;)09:35
kkathmanIm beginning to think NO one programs php and mysql under Linux..been to muliple channels and cant get answers :(09:35
manverukkathman: what's your problem?09:35
kkathmanmanveru: getting this error:09:35
kkathmanCan't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)09:35
manverukkathman: did that for 5 years... switched to ruby :)09:35
kkathmanyet my phpmyadmin works fine and I can run my apps just fine09:36
manverukkathman: yeah, debian usually has the sock messed up...09:36
kkathmanlovely09:36
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manverudo a 'ps aux | grep mysql'09:36
manverushould tell you the location of the sock09:36
kkathmanits running09:37
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manveruand where?09:37
kkathmanactually two instances?09:37
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kkathmanweird?09:38
PaloDeQuesoSometimes when I pull .deb packages from kde-apps and install it, it says I don't have the correct dependencies installed, but it still installs and works fine because the ones I have installed are named differently, but when I go to install anything else it makes me uninstall that package first?09:38
PaloDeQuesoHow does one fix this?09:38
[miles] evening guys... anyone know if there is a M$ fonts package ?09:38
naliothPaloDeQueso: build from source09:38
manveruPaloDeQueso: you don't fix that... packages you download generally are not for ubuntu09:38
crimsun!info msttcorefonts09:38
nalioth[miles] : msttcorefonts09:38
kkathmanmanveru: port 3306  standard09:38
[miles] ah thanks09:38
ubotumsttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 164 kB09:38
manverukkathman: no, the socket09:38
[miles] cheers guys09:38
PaloDeQuesoso is there any way to leave it installed though, because they work fine?09:38
PaloDeQuesobecause I tried biulding from source and it failed.09:39
manveruPaloDeQueso: you build them yourself before installing09:39
naliothPaloDeQueso: using non ubuntu debs is causing your problems, if you compile it yourself and use checkinstall to install it, you wont have those problems09:39
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manverukkathman: --socket=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock09:39
[miles] mmm which repo do I need for that?09:39
PaloDeQuesoI know, but what I'm saying is I can't get it to build, when I do the make, it won't compile.09:39
kkathmanmanveru: where do I see that?09:39
PaloDeQuesoeven though configure checks out.09:40
manverukkathman: in the ps aux09:40
[miles] oh I think I have restricted dissabled09:40
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naliothPaloDeQueso: what program is this? did the kde-apps page have any tips on compiling?09:40
kkathmanmanveru: found it09:40
manveru!checkinstall09:40
uboturumour has it, checkinstall is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall09:40
kkathmanone moment09:40
PaloDeQuesowell just in general, someitmes things won't install right, and I'll try building it and that won't work either.09:41
triodeI need help setting up an USB sound card in kubuntu, can anybody help me?09:41
PaloDeQuesobut recently k3guitune09:41
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naliothPaloDeQueso: any tips on the kde-apps page or the homepage of the app?09:42
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opnsrcHow do I add a recycle bin to my desktop?09:42
opnsrcOr a trash can?09:42
[miles] no, cant find the packge :-\09:42
triodeanybody?09:42
manverutriode: i haven't got USB-sound... google is your friend on that...09:43
kkathmanaha!09:43
PaloDeQuesono09:43
PaloDeQuesonalioth: no09:43
triodeI tried just about everything Google, that's why I'm here!09:43
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manverutriode: tell us what sound-card you have...09:44
triodetascam US-22409:44
triodeI know alsa has support for it09:44
manverutriode: hmm, heard that some days ago09:44
triodeI am a newbie in linux09:44
manverutriode: have you been here already? :)09:44
triodeyeah, I asked the same question yesterday!09:44
triodeSomebody helped me out, but we didn't get it to work09:44
triodewas it you?09:45
[miles] bbias09:45
manveruno, i tried to help you before the other one09:45
PaloDeQuesoIs there anyway to install something and just ignore the dependencies altogether?09:45
triodeoh, ok. It's been quite frustrating09:45
manverubut couldn't come up with something more useful than google09:45
apokryphosPaloDeQueso: man dpkg09:45
triodeI don't understand linux enough to figure it out by myself09:45
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manverutriode: well, in the area of USB you found my blind spot...09:46
triodethat's sad to hear. I wish I could find somebody who had done this09:46
triodeit's a popular pro sound interface09:46
triodeand the How To's that I've found haven't worked for me, could it be Kubuntu?09:47
manveruhow far did you get?09:47
triodecould I be better using Debian or other maintream distribution?09:47
triodeI get as far as getting the sound card listed09:47
triodeunder /proc/asound09:47
manverulisted where?09:47
opnsrcHow do I add a trash can to my desktop?09:47
opnsrcAlso, I accidently deleted something from Network09:47
opnsrcHow do I get it back?09:47
manveruopnsrc: gimme your email, i'll send you one09:48
opnsrcfrom the shortcut menu09:48
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opnsrcNo, I mean a shortcut09:48
Mic_haelyou can go to trash:/09:48
opnsrcI can add one to my Panel09:48
opnsrcbut not my desktop09:48
triodeis there an irc channel for ALSA? I should probably try that09:48
manverutriode: pretty sure it's #alsa09:48
apokryphosthere is09:48
triodeok, I'll give that a shot thanks!09:49
manverutriode: np09:49
opnsrcok but what if I want to drag something to the trash09:49
opnsrcHow do i add one09:49
opnsrcjust make it trash:/09:49
Mic_haelyes09:49
triode:)09:49
kkathmanmanveru: thankx for the tip...was able to figure it out from there09:49
Mic_haelcreate new link to location, and then you give it a name and point it to trash:/09:49
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manverunp - i ran into this one quite a few times :)09:50
opnsrctried it already09:50
kkathmanmanveru: did you ever use any tool for like DB Design - ERDs etc?09:50
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manverukkathman: no, using Og for that...09:50
kkathmanOg?09:50
manveruObjectGraph09:51
manveruit's an ORM for ruby09:51
kkathmanI see....09:51
manverui just create objects and interact with them09:51
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gerdudehi09:52
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kkathmanmanveru: I wonder if I could bother you to download this http://www.fabforce.net/downloads.php  and see if you can get it to install?  I just want to know if its my system or its broken :)09:52
[miles] yo, sorry guys, it's just not listing this msttcorefonts package... :-\09:52
kkathmanits an ERD pkg09:52
[miles] running 5.10 with all updates09:52
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kkathmanvery good under windows, but cant get it to install under linux09:52
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manverukkathman: will give it a shot09:53
kkathmanI really appreciate that...I owe ya :)09:53
Tm_Tkkathman: what's that09:53
kkathmanTm_T:  its an ERD designer09:53
Tm_TERD?09:53
kkathmanVisual DB design kit for Entity Relationship Diagrams09:53
Tm_Taah09:54
kkathmanhelps you define tables and creates SQL script to upload to your server09:54
Tm_Tno idea what that means =)09:54
Tm_Taah09:54
Tm_Tok09:54
manverukkathman: actually i intended to do something like :)09:54
kkathmanit works wonderfully under windows, but I cants get it to do anything under linux09:54
kkathmanthanks manveru ;:)09:54
kkathmanI keep trying to move all of my development to my linux environment, but keep hitting roadblocks..I really need this tool or one like it09:55
kkathmanwell I shouldnt say "need"...I would highly desire it as it would make my productivity higher09:56
manverukkathman: well... i try to run it.. and it does... nothing09:57
kkathmanmanveru: you type that ./startdbd and nothing happens right?09:57
[miles] anyone assist?09:57
manverukkathman: exactly09:57
kkathmanok...well then its not just me :)09:57
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kkathmanthanks..you can just rm -rf that directory :)09:58
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kkathmanI need to find a tool for me that works :)09:58
maarteni am making changes to /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc, but they have no effect. any idea why??09:58
manverukkathman: actually you should try to find the error in the 'startdbd' shellscript09:59
manverukkathman: maybe they have /usr/local/* or something in there that doesn't work in debian-like systems09:59
triodemanveru, I didn't get any reply at alsa channel. Can you suggest another channel that may help me with USB Audio09:59
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cRoW2khi10:01
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manverutriode: ok, that's bad...10:02
manverutriode: you might try it in #ubuntu though...10:02
triode:) no kidding!10:02
triodeok, I'll try that10:02
mdeboeri am making changes to /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc, but they have no effect. any idea why??10:02
cRoW2kthere is a mirror with source list update ? mine is broken10:03
manveruyou are using kde2? :)10:03
manveru!sources10:03
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic10:03
cRoW2koh thanks10:03
manverumdeboer: you should change this stuff using kcontrol10:03
mdeboermanveru: why?10:04
manverubecause it works?10:04
mdeboerthat's not a reason10:04
mdeboeri want to know why editing kdmrc does _not_ work10:05
manveruok, but don't expect an answer :)10:05
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manveruthis question doesn't work as well...10:05
mdeboerright.10:06
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neoncodeHey, there are no ops in this chanel right?10:07
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apokryphosneoncode: what's the problem?10:08
manverui guess so :)10:08
neoncodeapokryphos: Nothing, I just wanted to know what happens if we need to kick someone10:08
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manveruwonder where they have gone...10:09
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apokryphosneoncode: you type !kops  and if there's an availalbe op, they'll try to help10:09
manveruwhy would we have to kick some guy?10:09
apokryphosdon't misuse it though10:09
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neoncodeI dunno, I was just wondering. Hypothetical10:09
apokryphosmanveru: excessive trolling, spam, derogatory language etc etc10:10
manveruthat is what /ignore was invented for :)10:10
apokryphosmanveru: it's a pain to ask 152 members to /ignore a member10:10
manveruone of the most underestimated commmands in the history of irc10:10
apokryphosthat's what /kick / +b was invented for :)10:11
kkathmanlol10:11
manveruyeah, but these commands are not underestimated :)10:11
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apokryphosdepends on what type of person you are; I never use /ignore10:12
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=== manveru is the tolerant kind of guy
=== apokryphos will bbl
manveruwhen i find reason to ignore some person i don't automatically think others want to ignore this person as well10:13
=== neoncode likes the "/me" command
manveruon the other hand i sometimes like to talk to excessive trolls :)10:13
kkathmanrofl10:13
neoncodemanveru: Why would you want to do that?10:13
manveruwell, it's ubuntu after all :)10:14
manveruand trolls are humans too10:14
neoncodemanveru: Bearly10:14
manverusomewhere... very... deep... within10:14
manveruyou saw Shrek :)10:14
manveruhowever, i like my freedom to talk to whoever i want10:15
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