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cprovgood night guys12:17
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stubBug 527801:16
UbugtuMalone bug #5278: Launchpad name -> @ubuntu.com email address broken In: launchpad (upstream), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: James Troup, Status: New https://launchpad.net/bugs/527801:16
kikostub?01:25
stubYo01:26
kikomore ubuntu.com bugs, eh?01:26
stubYup. It has been busted for over three weeks aparently, and people who were using them and need to change the forwarding are in limbo01:27
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kikostub, did Kinnison send you the SQL we need?01:28
stubNope01:28
kikowhy me?01:30
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stubkiko: Do we want a totally fresh database next run, freshly synced from production? If so, I won't need the script until Kinnison comes online anyway01:37
kikonope01:37
kikoit's just an additional run01:37
kikothat's why I'm so frustrated01:38
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jameshkiko: btw, for the method naming thing, I think I put all the renamings I did in a single changeset02:00
jameshkiko: so it should be trivial to revert02:00
kikojamesh, that makes me feel less bad02:01
kikoI was a bit misleading 02:01
kikoI didn't want to raise a riot while I was suggesting we change our minds02:01
kikojamesh, do you have a suggestion for a way to avoid a click on an onClick'd area passing through to an HREF?02:02
kikoI have a legend that has an onclick handler02:02
jameshkiko: return false02:02
kikoinside this legend is an <a>02:02
kikohmmm02:02
kikolet me try.02:03
jameshthat prevents the event from being processed02:03
spivkiko: Ooh, this sounds like you're fixing my bug :)02:04
kikoI'm trying02:04
kikobut it's fucking difficult02:04
jameshit should just be a simple matter of javascript02:05
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kikothis is all very funny but it DOESN'T WORK02:06
kikofirst because zope for some reason adds a base element to each page02:06
kikowhich makes me want to die02:06
kikoit's strange02:09
kikothis is not event bubbling02:09
kikoit's something else02:09
jameshIt's possible you might need to do something different because you're using addEventListener()02:11
kikoand it doesn't appear to insert itself into the focus chain either02:11
kikophew02:11
kikothis stinks02:11
jameshkiko: call event.preventDefault()02:14
jameshthat's what the w3c DOM 2 events page says02:14
kikothat works02:15
kikocool.02:15
kikohowever.02:15
stub<base> tag is there to make Zope handle relative links from /foo and /foo/ correctly02:15
jamesh"Cancelation is accomplished by calling the Event's preventDefault method. If one or more EventListeners call preventDefault during any phase of event flow the default action will be canceled."02:15
kikoa) the anchor I added is not in the document's focus chain02:15
kikob) this handler causes firefox to spit out nasty errors in the javascript console (which makes it take 1 second to process)02:15
kikohmmm02:15
kikoor does it.02:15
kikoit does.02:16
kikouncaught Exception: etc etc02:17
kikoand 1s of lag02:17
kikothis.docshell has no properties02:17
kikojamesh, I need to crash. I'll mail you a diff, see what you can make of it :-(02:18
jameshokay02:18
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kikoI suspect this is a lost cause though02:21
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jamesh6 bugs failed to import on my test run :(02:24
jameshlooks like two distinct problems02:24
lifelessdude, you are close02:25
jamesh4 due to some comments written in SJIS, and 2 due to attachments with empty file names02:25
jameshit is 6 bugs out of 24000, which is good :)02:27
jameshis there any easy way to filter out unicode characters outside of the BMP?02:30
lifelessthe BMP ? ??Plane ?02:39
jameshbasic multilingual plane02:42
jameshi.e. stuff that fits in 16 bits02:42
lifelessIIRC planes are identifyable by bit prefixes02:47
Kinnisong'night03:04
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jameshI'll do it with regular expressions.03:07
jameshlooks like Python in Ubuntu has been compiled with 4-byte unicode so should work fine03:08
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bob2_stub: I still get lots of random lp bug mail05:22
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jameshbob2_: look at the X-Launchpad-Bug header05:36
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minghuahi, I'd like to file a bug on a package that is just imported from debian08:42
minghuabut as it has never been built in ubuntu, malone won't accept its source package name08:43
minghuaokay, forget about the "never been built" part, it seems just all new packages introduced in dapper don't get recognized by malone08:45
jameshminghua: they should get recognised once gina has been run on production.08:47
jameshminghua: what is the package name?08:47
minghuajamesh: xfonts-wqy08:47
minghuajamesh: I've filed the bug without package name08:47
minghuajamesh: so don't bother with this special case, I can wait for gina08:48
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jameshdoesn't seem to be listed on staging08:49
jameshis it very new?08:49
minghuajamesh: not very new, sid has it on October 6th08:49
minghuajamesh: another package I checked is scim-pinyin08:49
jameshminghua: I mean new in Ubuntu08:49
minghuajamesh: well, as I've said, it has never been built in ubuntu...08:50
jameshminghua: once everything is set up, you should be able to file bugs on any package that is in the archive08:51
jamesh(which means that it would need to be in the archive, of course)08:51
minghuajamesh: no prolem, thanks for answering08:51
minghuajamesh: as long as the source package is in archive, it's in, right?08:52
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jameshminghua: I think so.  I don't work on that particular part of LP though08:55
minghuajamesh: okay, thanks08:56
jameshminghua: the Brazilians should be up some time soon.  You might be able to get an answer from them08:57
jordimorning08:57
mdzjamesh: several hours yet, I expect09:07
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crimsunkiko-zzz: please add xmoto as a source package entry, thanks09:14
jordimdz: dude09:16
jordiI need ur help09:16
jordimdz: there's a dude asking that we setup a few things for translation: hwdb-gui, ubuntu-express, ubuntuliveinstaller-shellhack, edubuntu.cookbook, ubuntu-help and language-selector09:18
jordishouldn't this be automatically imported by rosetta?09:18
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SteveAhello!09:45
jameshmdz: btw, therer is a pretty much complete bugzilla import on staging.ubuntu.com right now if you want to check it out09:52
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jameshmdz: e.g. https://staging.ubuntu.com/people/mdz/+assignedbugs?search=Search&orderby=-datecreated09:54
SteveAlifeless: your email about registering branches in launchpad.  it's a good thing.  the email doesn't spell out how to do so.10:04
SteveAlifeless: should people register branches all on the launchpad product, or on the individual products they are working on?10:05
SteveAlifeless: what about sqlobject branches, zope branches etc?10:06
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ddaajumping through all the necessary hoops to get a branch merged is already time consuming enough10:06
ddaaATM the branch registration on launchpad is not going to give any significant added value that I can see. And it's yet one more hoop to jump through.10:07
ddaaI'm all for replacing the wiki page by launchpad, when it's ready. But it's not yet.10:08
lifelessddaa: how will we know when its ready ?10:10
lifelessddaa: we've already got some valuable requirements just by jamesh's reply.10:10
ddaaHa, did not read it yet. Just awaken...10:10
lifelessi.e. where do zope branches go - the zope product targeted to a zope productseries10:10
lifelessor the launchpad product targeted to a productseries that is *not for a launchpad branch* ?10:11
lifelessSteveA: good questions, they are why I emailed ;)10:11
lifelessSteveA: partly to test the ui inuititiveness etc10:11
BjornTand related to this, bug 557310:11
UbugtuMalone bug #5573: You should be able to use sftp URLs for branches In: launchpad (upstream), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: David Allouche, Status: New https://launchpad.net/bugs/557310:11
ddaa"when it's ready": if you mean "replacing the wiki page", and using launcpad as a data source for jamesh instead of parsing the wiki... I can come up with a few things.10:12
ddaawill email10:12
ddaa(when spamassassin has finished sorting the night's spam)10:12
jameshddaa: getting the landing_target thing sorted would be pretty cool -- it would make it possible to get rid of some of some of the magic in the script10:16
lifelessddaa: think incremental adoption10:16
lifelessddaa: we have a bunch of stuff to learn10:16
lifelessabout the proposed lp way of managing this10:16
ddaajamesh: yes, but it lacks infrastructure for that, and so far it's lower priority than importd->bzr and supermirror-sftp things.10:17
ddaaand some things which I think are more critical to replacing the PendingReviews wiki are missing too.10:18
ddaalifeless: we have to actually design a lp way of managing branches.10:18
jameshddaa: sure.  I never meant to imply that those issues are all high priority.10:19
ddaatalks with Keybuk and jblack convinced me the current structuring features are inadequate for real use.10:19
jameshddaa: or that you need to implement all of them :)10:19
ddaajamesh: I absolutely need to implement them.10:20
ddaaThat would be one of the uber-cool things, when it's done.10:20
ddaajamesh: actually, the goal is to integrate your merge script into launchpad, so everybody can run their own for their own branches or project.10:21
jameshddaa: yep.10:21
ddaaI'd like to display _both_ the Branch.url and the computed supermirror URL on the branch page. What do you think the labels should be? I'm thinking "Source URL" and "Launchpad URL".10:31
ddaa(where "Source URL" is ommitted if it's not set, when the branch is hosted on the supermirror sftp)10:32
ddaaMh... actually, not ommitted, just displayed as "<i>This branch is hosted on Launchpad"</i>"10:32
ddaaSuggestions?10:33
jameshddaa: "Branch URL" and "Mirror URL"?10:34
ddaaThought about that... but I think "Mirror" is not specific enough (what if you want to publish third party mirror locations?) and does not make much sense for a branch hosted on the supermirror.10:35
ddaaGot to keep in mind that "supermirror" is going away as a "brand". It's all going to be Launchapd: bazaar.launchpad.net.10:36
jamesh"Launchpad Mirror URL" then10:36
jameshand just list "Branch URL" if they are the same10:36
ddaaI think that would be confusing. Specifically, if somebody fills in the +addbranch form and _forgets_ to set the url.10:37
ddaathen it would end up as a branch with a launchpad URL, which is not what the user has given...10:37
ddaaThank you jamesh.10:38
ddaaYou convinced me my initial idea was good :)10:38
lifelessddaa: I think jamesh meant he could help10:38
ddaaI very much appreciate his help.10:39
ddaaI wanted to bounce the idea off somebody to help me clarify the reasoning.10:39
lifelessddaa: yah, just commenting on your 'absolutely I have to implement everything' statement: you do not ;)10:39
lifelessddaa: they have to be implement, and if noone else helps, your it.10:40
ddaaHaaaaa yes, of course!10:40
ddaaAs long as I get all the credit and I like the smell of the code, I do not mind who writes it ;)10:40
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ddaajamesh: after the ML discussion, I'll give you some bite sized tasks if you wish.10:41
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SteveAspiv: hello11:57
SteveAddaa: "add a branch" -- exactly what kind of branch must it be?11:58
SteveAa bzr branch, or any kind of baz branch?11:59
ddaaSteveA: kiko asked we use the ML more.11:59
ddaabut to answer11:59
ddaait's only about adding bzr branches.11:59
SteveAi'm asking on here, because i am composing an email11:59
SteveAa good pattern is to get information on irc, and then summarize / publish decision on the mailing list12:00
SteveAokay, so we have a branding question.12:00
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SteveAi'll ask on #bzr12:00
SteveAcan we say "bazaar branch" and give a suitable error at some point if it is a baz 1.x branch?12:01
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SteveAddaa: i replied12:07
SteveAspiv: hello12:09
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matsubaragood morning!12:11
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ddaaSteveA: now, no. Later, yes, we can do anything for approriate values of later.12:18
SteveAddaa:   * Played with Launchpad's "Code" facet and experimentally registered a12:21
SteveA    couple of branches there.12:21
SteveAthat from Kamion12:21
ddaayes?12:22
ddaaI know people are actually putting real data in launchpad already.12:22
ddaaearlier this week there were a couple dozen branches...12:22
ddaaI generally do not want to publicise it before the whole chain is up and running and the revision listing shows _something_.12:23
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ddaait's already being adopted at a pace that I find satisfying. There are many many things to improve and I do not these issues to become critical too soon.12:24
ddaaSteveA: does that sound reasonabl to you?12:24
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mptGooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders12:27
lifelessddaa: I think it sounds fine. I don't consider the launchpad team public though ;)12:28
ddaalifeless: that is a different kind of issue.12:29
Kinnisonddaa: I registered a branch with launchpad12:31
Kinnisonddaa: I set it to be owned by my team12:31
Kinnisonddaa: Now I get a 40412:31
lifelessI kissed a girl12:32
Kinnisonddaa: Go to https://launchpad.net/products/aranha/+branches12:32
Kinnisonddaa: the branch link 404s12:32
ddaaKinnison: file a bug with the steps to reproduce. Better if you can make a pagetest :)12:32
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ddaaMh... indeed...12:33
Kinnisonbug 5583 -- shall I assign it to you?12:35
UbugtuMalone bug #5583: Branch link 404s In: launchpad (upstream), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Nobody, Status: New https://launchpad.net/bugs/558312:35
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ddaaKinnison: no freaking idea where your branch is gone...12:35
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lifelesstry under the team12:37
KinnisonThat link is under the team12:38
lifelesshttps://launchpad.net/people/dsilvers/+branch/aranha/dsilvers-devel12:41
lifeless?12:41
ddaanah, he wants mainline12:42
ddaadb id 53512:42
ddaaThat looks like a bug in the navigation class.12:42
ddaathe DB data looks correctly set at least.12:42
Kinnisoncoo12:42
ddaaand the links are what they should be.12:42
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lifelessnight12:44
ddaalifeless: can you add this symlink to RF before night, please?12:44
lifelessddaa: no, I've replied already12:44
lifelessbzrtools and bzr in rf are not friend12:44
lifelesss12:45
lifelesswe need to update launchpad12:45
lifelessas for the baz2bzr script being blocked, its blocked on my baz2bzr updated *anyway* and that needs newer bzr too.12:45
jameshddaa: you need to repeat the PersonNavigation +branch traversal method in TeamNavigation12:45
ddaalifeless: it's blocked for _deployment_ on your baz2bzr, it's not blocking the reviewed code from being merged. Would would make further changes on that code base easier to review.12:46
ddaajamesh: I'll look into that once I have refueled my body.12:47
lifelessddaa: if I put that symlink in on its own, your code still wont merge in all likely hood because the bzrtools is mismatched12:47
lifelessplease consider that I considered this already.12:47
ddaaThank you for clarifying. That was not obvious in your message.12:48
lifelessI'm not out to make your life harder, but fucking around for one symlink that is not critical path will slow me down, and I'm already behind on this for you12:48
ddaaI will try to get the bzrsync code updated today.12:49
lifelesscool. stash it in a branch and I'll merge it with the bzr update by hand.12:50
lifelessfingers crossed, hct won't also need updating12:50
lifelessnight12:52
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kiko-zzzcrimsun, minghua: added01:16
jameshmorning kiko01:37
kikojamesh!01:37
kikohow's it going01:37
jameshgood.01:37
mptFor anyone who can view tracebacks, I just got a timeout error from https://launchpad.net/products/launchpad/+bug/527601:44
UbugtuMalone bug #5276: "Project" is a confusing term In: launchpad (upstream), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Matthew Paul Thomas, Status: Accepted https://launchpad.net/bugs/527601:44
kikompt, launchpad.net/errors01:45
kikompt, I have the traceback. what now?01:45
mptI don't know, report a bug? :-)01:47
mptI got "You don't have permission to access /errors on this server"01:47
kikostub, has Kinnison sent you a db patch?01:47
SteveAwe can view TBs on chinstrap01:47
SteveAwhen the next rsync runs, within 10 mins01:48
kikompt, for the 10000000000th time, you need a certificate.01:48
stubkiko: No01:48
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mptthat's odd, I thought I had it01:49
spivSteveA: Hi01:50
mptmeh, Evolution's search is useless01:51
SteveAhi spiv 01:52
SteveAlike a blind watchmaker01:56
kikostub, for how much longer will you be on?01:57
stubNother hour or three I guess01:57
kikookay, Kinnison will send in the patch without the next 3 hours, and then we kick off a new [incremental]  gina run01:59
ddaaSteveA: do you really mean "Add bzr branch", or do you mean "Add Bzr Branch"?02:17
stubThere were 2 imports of names not appearing in the __all__.02:17
stubYou should not import __doc__ from copy_reg:02:17
stub    canonical.launchpad.webapp.pgsession02:17
SteveAddaa: what should i mean?02:17
ddaaI'm talking about the capitalisation style of action links.02:17
SteveAstub: that's fine.  it needs adding as an exceptional case to the warning fascist.02:18
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SteveAi think i'll make __doc__ always available.02:18
stubWhere is the exceptions list again?02:18
SteveAin this case, it will be a little code02:18
SteveAwarninghandler.py02:18
stubI'll leave it for now then with the warning02:18
SteveAfine02:19
SteveAactually02:19
SteveAit is the importfascist.py02:19
SteveA    if name == 'sre' or name == 'textwrap':02:19
SteveA        return module02:19
SteveAshould check 'copy_reg' also02:20
SteveAand at this stage, have a list of exempt modules02:20
SteveAseeing as there are three02:20
SteveAbut, if you leave the warning in there, i'll do it later02:20
kikostub, you have the SQL02:22
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stubkiko: ok. I'll update the staging database and rerun Gina. IIRC, nothing should be cleared out first so this will be a fast(ish) run - just the new architectures going in.02:27
spivSteveA: An idea came up in a discussion with lifeless recently that we should have a 'ratchets.txt' for metrics we want to strictly improve.  It could have lines like 'import-fascist-warnings 17'.02:27
Kinnisonstub: Aye, nothing to clear out, just run with the new archs02:27
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Kinnisonciau02:27
spivSteveA: Then if the importfascist finds more than that many problems, it'd arrange for make check to fail.02:27
spivSo we can periodically force the number of warnings towards zero, without letting them slip higher because they're just warnings.02:28
kikostub, right02:28
spivThe idea was that it'd be a piece of infrastructure that we could use for various metrics.  e.g. % code with test coverage.02:29
kikompt, what were you doing when you got that malone traceback? can you file a bug and ping me to paste the traceback?02:32
mptkiko, just visiting the page, nothing more02:38
mptkiko, https://launchpad.net/products/malone/+bug/5589?lpnotification=cFPdjIfhhdjZn3GxqUCe9fA8mI502:40
UbugtuMalone bug #5589: Timeout error from bug page In: malone (upstream), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Nobody, Status: New https://launchpad.net/bugs/558902:40
mptor paste to me02:41
kikothanks02:41
mptthank you02:41
ddaaspiv: % of code with test coverage is not the appropriate warning methink02:57
ddaas/warning/metric/02:57
ddaaMaybe more something like number of lines lacking test coverage, something that does not decrease when adding new code with tests.02:59
ddaaBut increases when adding code that's not well tested.02:59
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mptconfigure.zcml talks about a "changelog.html". Where would I find this? (https://launchpad.net/changelog.html doesn't work)03:09
SteveAi suspect that is out of date03:09
SteveAin fact, i know it is03:09
mptshould I nuke it then?03:10
SteveAthere used to be a baz changelog maintained in the repository03:10
SteveAbut it was totally slowing things down03:10
SteveAi don't know what the bzr equivalent would be03:10
SteveAsure, remove the reference to it03:10
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mptbut leave the template?03:10
SteveAthere's a template?03:10
SteveAmaybe i jumped into this conversation half way through03:11
mptno, you were there right before the start03:11
mptdebug-root-changelog.pt03:11
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kiko_hey there03:11
kiko_checking out the desktop03:11
dilysMerge to devel/launchpad: Ubuntu Bugzilla import script, r=BjornT (r2906: James Henstridge)03:13
kiko_jamesh, rock and roll03:13
kiko_did you get the failures all sorted?03:13
jameshyeah03:14
stubkiko: Gina is running03:15
jameshgive a default name to attachments without filenames03:15
kiko_thanks stub 03:15
kiko_jamesh, and the unicode issue?03:15
jameshand filter out the unicode characters postgres hated03:15
jameshkiko_: the problem messages import now, but are unreadable (as they are in bugzilla ...)03:15
jameshI think they might be spam though03:16
kiko_jamesh, bugzilla never solved the problem of migrating old, unknown content.03:17
kiko_you're probably right03:17
jameshit is stuff that was imported from Deb bugs03:17
jameshand those messages don't appear to be included in the history of those bugs on bugs.debian.org03:17
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kiko_stub, is there a solution to finding out why we are dropping launchpad registration mail to certain people?03:20
kiko_stub, what would we need to do to solve this problem?03:20
stubDefine dropping?03:21
stubYou want to see why their email is bouncing?03:21
kiko_well, some users never receive the registration mail.03:21
kiko_ideally, yes.03:21
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kiko_yeah, I guess that's more likely than us not emailing it03:22
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stubIndeed. Want to see them, open an rt issue asking for bounces@canonical.com (or whatever domain we are using today for this) to go somewhere you can see it.03:23
kiko_okay. will it happen this solar cycle?03:23
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kiko_does anyone know if the rt instance is web-accessible?03:48
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mdkekiko_, yeah, it's not04:00
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LarstiQBjornT: does that help you out of your current situation?04:29
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Ahsan123`hey 04:30
Ahsan123`is they really send free cd04:30
kiko-fudindeed04:30
mdkeAhsan123`, shipit.ubuntu.com04:31
Ahsan123`yeh04:31
Ahsan123`is they really send cds04:31
mdkeyes04:31
mdkethey are honest people04:31
mdke:)04:31
Ahsan123`yeh but i register my email 04:31
Ahsan123`they gave me link i click on them they ask for given name etc what was that04:32
BjornTLarstiQ: not quite, not sure how to do an uncommit. instead i created a new branch from latest_revision-1 and applied the changes minus the file deletion. maybe more work than necessary, but at least i knew it worked :)04:32
LarstiQBjornT: 'bzr uncommit'?04:32
mdkeAhsan123`, your name?04:32
BjornTLarstiQ: hmm, my bzr doesn't have that command. is it new?04:33
LarstiQBjornT: that's been in a while iirc, unless you are using an older released version, right04:33
LarstiQBjornT: there is still the uncommit plugin if need be04:34
LarstiQah hmm, my mind fools me04:34
Ahsan123`hey 04:34
LarstiQit only merged into bzr.dev on 2005-11-2504:34
LarstiQBjornT: seems like ages ;)04:34
Ahsan123`in how many  month they send cd's04:34
LarstiQAhsan123`: I received mine after 7 weeks04:34
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Ahsan123`can any body tell me in how many month they send cds04:36
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stubAhsan123`: 1-2 months04:37
Ahsan123`LarstiQ where r u from bro04:37
Ahsan123`stub where r u from04:37
BjornT_LarstiQ: ah, i used bzr-integration, which didn't have uncommit.04:37
Ahsan123`how many cd they send04:38
LarstiQBjornT_: it's been a while since lifeless merged I gather04:38
LarstiQAhsan123`: you get sent the amount of cds you request, at least with the standard choices04:38
BjornT_LarstiQ: yeah, i guess so. i've switch to use the main branch instead04:38
SteveAAhsan123`: you can ask for 5 or 10, and then make duplicates yourself if you need more afterwards.  it is quicker making your own duplicates than ordering more.04:39
Ahsan123`Sorry, you don't have permission to access this page. 04:40
Ahsan123`i login but they ask this04:40
Ahsan123`y 04:40
SteveAsalgado: can you help Ahsan123` out with logging into shipit?  he's getting some kind of unauthorized error.04:41
Ahsan123`salgado can u help me04:41
mdkeAhsan123`, what is your first language?04:42
Ahsan123`English04:42
salgadoAhsan123`, what's the URL you're trying to access?04:43
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Ahsan123`shipit.unbutu.linux.org04:43
Ahsan123`wait i gave u link bro04:43
Ahsan123`http://shipit.ubuntulinux.org/user.cgi?action=new04:43
Ahsan123`this04:44
Ahsan123`bcz i want to ship cd on my adress04:44
salgadoAhsan123`, can you try on https://shipit.ubuntu.com04:44
Ahsan123`how i ship cd now i login04:44
Ahsan123`where i can click04:44
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Ahsan123`where i can click04:45
Ahsan123`what is this04:45
Ahsan123`Hussain has not created a homepage. The text here is editable - you can use it to keep people up to date on your activities, interests, etc. It is a free-form space, you can put anything here. [Edit]  04:45
Ahsan123`i login now04:45
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LarstiQAhsan123`: you see the login form on ttps://shipit.ubuntu.com04:46
LarstiQ?04:46
mdkegosh04:46
mptAhsan123`, if that's you, you can now go back to https://shipib.utunbu.com/ and log in04:46
salgadoAhsan123`, you need to login on https://shipit.ubuntu.com04:46
mptSteveA, no-app-component-yet.pt, no-page-yet.pt, and no-url-yet.pt are all unused, not even referenced in zcml. Can I nuke them?04:46
Ahsan123`mpt u have botnet04:47
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mptSo now it's time for an answer to the question, "Who wants to be op in #launchpad?"04:48
Ahsan123`me04:48
Ahsan123`hehe04:48
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LarstiQAhsan123`: where do you try logging in exactly?04:50
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doc|work:/04:50
Ahsan123`i login on ur given link04:50
Ahsan123`https://shipit.ubuntu.com04:51
Ahsan123`here i login04:51
LarstiQAhsan123`: you're not clicking on any other link on that page, right?04:51
jameshI've set the channel to invite-only for now04:51
LarstiQthen I'm stumped04:51
jameshwe should turn it off again later04:51
doc|workjamesh: set the channel +m and voice people after a set time04:51
=== cprov wtf is going on freenode ?
Ahsan123`no bro 04:51
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jameshcprov: script kiddie04:51
Ahsan123`i click on ur given link04:51
Ahsan123`who do this flood04:52
Ahsan123`wtf04:52
cprovsh..04:52
LarstiQAhsan123`: weird04:52
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Ahsan123`bro y my account was not logging04:52
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mdkejamesh, you seem to have stopped em04:54
mdke:)04:54
jameshmdke: along with anyone else who wants to join the channel04:54
mdkeoh yeah04:54
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mdkejamesh, in freenode +r has been suggested?04:54
LarstiQAhsan123`: I have no idea :/04:54
LarstiQsalgado: do you?04:54
dennyjamesh: I'm first level staff btw, trying to get someone a bit more powerful to come and help out right now04:54
mdkeor +m04:55
Ahsan123`hmm :( its means that i order cd;s04:55
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jameshdenny: thanks04:55
dennyapparently +m will stop channel notices, which is what they were flooding with04:55
dennythen you can just +v everyone you want to be able to talk04:55
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dennythat's probably your best short-term solution04:56
dennythey might still join/part flood though04:56
LarstiQis #launchpad the only target?04:56
dennynobody else is complaining yet04:56
SteveAjamesh, mpt: i'm heading off for a short walk.  let me know who should have ops with chanserv, and i'll sort that out when i get back.04:56
jameshthe docs say +R restricts voice to people who've identified to nickserv04:57
dennylearn something new every day  :)04:57
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mptkiko, no-app-component-yet.pt, no-page-yet.pt, and no-url-yet.pt are all unused, not even referenced in zcml. Can I nuke them?05:05
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bradbmpt: Did you already open a bug for the "assignee:bradb" search syntax? If not, I'll open it now and mention it in bug 881.05:16
UbugtuMalone bug #881: Advanced search controls should not show on results pages In: malone (upstream), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Brad Bollenbach, Status: Accepted https://launchpad.net/bugs/88105:16
mptbradb, no, but I was planning to write a spec for it today :-)05:16
bradbOkay, I'll open the bug.05:16
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kikompt, well, what pages are they again?05:25
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mptkiko, they're unused error pages05:25
mpt"The URL for this page needs to be added"05:25
kikohmmm. why do they exist?05:25
mpt"This page no template. Contact our CO." (This sentence no verb.)05:26
kikoheh05:26
kikosounds like a candidate for nuking05:26
mptannd "This page depends on an application component that doesn't exist yet."05:26
kikoSteveA would be the authority05:26
SteveAi am the law05:26
mptyes, but he went off for a walk :-)05:26
SteveAwhat's the question?05:26
mptSteveA, no-app-component-yet.pt, no-page-yet.pt, and no-url-yet.pt are all unused, not even referenced in zcml. Can I nuke them?05:27
SteveAyes05:27
mptta05:27
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mpthuh, bzr rm doesn't delete the files?05:29
mptoh, the help even says so05:29
mptthat's a misleading name then05:29
kiko-afkcvs rm doesn't either fwiw05:30
SteveAit was a sought-after feature for baz05:30
SteveAand tla before it05:31
LarstiQmpt: it removes it from version control05:31
kikoI understand it's controversial though05:31
kikostub, gina run looking good.05:32
mptbzr ignore05:32
LarstiQkiko: for controversial, try 'rm file; bzr commit'05:32
kikoit fails, doesn't it?05:32
LarstiQkiko: no, it implicitly schedules that as a bzr remove05:34
mpt"schedules" it for when?05:35
mptfor after the commit?05:35
LarstiQmpt: no, at that commit05:35
LarstiQmpt: so if you don't back down, that file will no longer be under version control (and by virtue of the first rm, neither in your working dir)05:36
kikoback down OR ELSE05:39
SteveAso, you don't need to use "bzr rm" usually05:41
kikobradb, a question05:43
kikolet's say I email malone with my alternative (non-preferred) email address.05:44
kikomalone will accept the comment and resend it to others05:44
kikowhat does the mail's From: address look like?05:44
LarstiQSteveA: except this is buggish and might get removed, bug 515805:46
UbugtuMalone bug #5158: rfc: don't treat missing files as deleted In: bzr (upstream), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Nobody, Status: New https://launchpad.net/bugs/515805:46
bradbkiko: your preferred email address05:46
LarstiQSteveA: of course, user input is welcome ;)05:46
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mptAnyone want to volunteer a slogan for Launchpad? :-)06:31
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mpta paunchy lad?06:32
LarstiQpropelling the world into the bright future? feh06:39
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mdke"take off"07:01
bradbamazingly, i just thought of that too07:01
mdkewhat a coincidence :)07:01
SteveAas in "take off all zig" ?07:01
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mdkewhat is zig?07:01
bradbOr maybe "[you are looking at a slogan]  take off [slogans are cools aren't they] "07:02
mdkelol07:02
LarstiQmdke: zig is for great justice07:03
mdkei'll try google07:06
mdkeand wikipedia07:08
mdkeZig (Judaism), a giant rooster from judaism.07:08
LarstiQmdke: try aybabtu07:10
mdkeyeah am reading it07:10
mdkebefore my time obviously07:10
mptDon't say that mdke, you make me feel old07:13
LarstiQheck, you even make me feel old07:13
mdkeseems it was only 4 years ago07:14
mdkei remember a song, but that's about it07:15
LarstiQyup07:15
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mptYou know you haven't been doing anything important when your changes produce 556 test errors07:25
kiko!07:25
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mptah, 33 errors, that's much better07:49
kikodrill on mpt07:58
mptjamesh, ping07:59
mptAnyone: the hacking FAQ says to change sampledata, "Build a fresh database, make the required changes ..." Make the required changes where? Using the Web UI? in current.sql? or somewhere else?08:13
salgadompt, yes, this is what you should do when you want to do changes using the web UI or the postgres interactive prompt (psql)08:25
kikompt, salgado: keep your changes in a separate file. you'll be happier.08:29
kikoin a separate SQL.08:29
mptThat's what the hacking FAQ suggests, kiko, but it doesn't say how08:31
kikowriting SQL08:31
mptah, which requires learning SQL08:32
kikowell08:32
salgadompt, you can do the way I suggested, do a diff between your newsampledata.sql and current.sql and store that diff08:32
salgadothis is useful when you insert new sampledata08:33
salgadoif you're actually changing sampledata, then this is not a good approach08:33
mptI'm changing it08:33
mptI'll work it out on Monday08:40
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mdzis the branch functionality in launchpad expected to work currently?09:13
mdzI added some of my branches and they don't seem to have been scanned yet09:13
mdz(on production)09:13
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LarstiQmdz: scanning doesn't work yet09:16
LarstiQmdz: at least, bzr branches. I think that is blocking on the entire supermirror chain09:17
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matsubaradoes anybody know how to insert a non-ascii character on a page template?10:17
Spee_DerGreetings everyone, from snowy Rhode Island, USA.10:18

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