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lamontBenC: if I'm silly enough to want to try 2.6.15 on breezy....12:34
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jbaileylamont-away: 2.6.15 requires a newer udev.12:51
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zulheylo01:36
mjg59BenC: No idea02:03
mjg59It's a bit weird looking02:03
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BenCmjg59: what should i do with that bug? :)02:19
BenClamont-away: hppa kernels built, but they aren't in the archive yet...any idea why?02:20
mjg59BenC: Erm... :)02:20
mjg59Honestly don't know (assuming you're talking about the weird USB one)02:20
BenCno, the IDE suspend one02:20
mjg59Oh02:21
mjg59That's not the bug number you pasted02:21
BenClet me check it02:21
BenC10314, sorry02:22
mjg59Oh, that02:22
mjg59Yeah, I can knock up a patch for it02:22
mjg59It's pretty easy02:22
BenCok02:22
lamont-awayBenC: NEW02:32
lamont-awayis my guess02:32
BenClamont-away: sparc and ia64 went in pretty quickly02:42
BenCeverything is built, but hppa is the only one not in the archive02:42
lamont-awayI think it's a matter of timing...02:48
BenCyeah, just odd that it is taking so long02:48
jbaileyBenC: Got bandwidth? =)03:30
jbaileyBenC: If you could test a klibc build on sparc, I'd appreciate it.03:30
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BenCfrom archive?03:36
BenCgcc-3.3? :)03:38
BenCjbailey: should it really be using linux-headers-2.6.12-9?03:39
jbaileyNah, the one I'm updating.03:39
jbaileyLemme post it, just a sec.03:39
jbaileyBenC: The gcc-3.3 is a gcc bug.  With my sparc unstable, I probably can't fix it, though.03:41
BenCI'll try building with gcc-403:41
BenCgcc-3.4 doesn't work either?03:41
jbaileyIt should be an easy fix, libgcc is leaking a reference to .umul and shouldn't be.03:41
jbaileyNope, gcc-3.4 and 4.0 both have the bug.03:41
jbaileyMy patience for toolchain hacking on an U5 is strained at the best of times. =)03:42
BenCdoes it fail when linking?03:42
BenCI'll do a compile with gcc-3.3, and look at the .umul problem later03:43
jbaileyYes.03:43
jbaileyHmm.  I just updated to the 2.6.15-7 headers instead of 2.6.12-9 and it broke locally again.  I might need to fix this tomorrow.03:47
BenCstill want me to do a sparc build?03:47
jbaileyNot yet. =)03:48
jbaileyI will, though.  Unless you're heading out?03:48
BenCnah, I'll be here for anohter hour or so03:48
jbaileyHmm03:55
jbaileyI think I might go spend time with my wife, though.03:55
jbaileyI'll catch up with this in the morning.03:55
jbaileyI've already sent 3 klibc patches in today. =)03:55
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infinityNot sure how much of a win NUMA would be a dual CPU amd64.06:27
HrdwrBoBI'm not sure either06:27
HrdwrBoBIt'd be interesting to do some comparative benchmarks06:28
HrdwrBoBbut realistically - why not06:28
infinityI know there were stability issues with it in the past, that would be my only argument against enabling it unconditionally.06:28
HrdwrBoBthe only documented stability issues I can find date back to 2.4/2.506:29
fabbionemorning06:29
HrdwrBoBthough obviously that's no exactly exhaustive testing06:29
fabbioneHrdwrBoB: it's only overhead if you don't have a real NUMA system06:29
HrdwrBoByes06:29
fabbioneso pointless in a dual CPU amd6406:29
infinityfabbione : But, as has been pointed out, all amd64 systems with >1 CPU are NUMA.06:30
infinity(Because of the embedded memory controller on the CPU)06:30
infinityA quick Googling taught me that Linux actually pulls some tricks to assign RAM ownership per CPU.06:30
fabbioneis it actually used in such config?06:30
infinityLearn something new every day.06:31
fabbionealso my BIOS claims that i have a HT cpu06:31
fabbionebut my mobo can't use it06:31
HrdwrBoBall smp opteron boards have the same features though06:31
HrdwrBoBthere isn't any low-end cheap dodgy motherboards for dual opterons that I've seen06:32
HrdwrBoBand even if they were, I'm not sure how they wouldn't implement it06:32
fabbioneBenC: did you just reboot the e3k?07:10
fabbioneBenC: meh.. ok i found a way to have a reproducible crash :/07:32
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infinitymjg59 : Is vbetool supposed to build/work on ia64?..  If so, can you fix it?.. If not, can you make acpi-support stop requiring it on ia64?10:00
Mithrandirit is supposed to work.10:01
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siretarthi12:16
siretartdidn't we agree that we don't ship kernel-patches in ubuntu (not even in universe)?12:16
fabbioneyes...12:17
siretartI notice that kernel-patch-vserver is being synced over and over, so this seems to be a good candidate to be blacklisted/removed12:17
siretartbut I wanted to ask here first12:17
fabbioneit seems sensible12:20
siretartwhat is the procedure for this? just asking elmo to remove/blacklist it?12:23
siretartor filing a bug?12:23
fabbioneask elmo i think12:24
siretartok12:24
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BenCfabbione: e3k died, thanks, now I have to walk in the rain to the cold barn to power cycle it :)02:05
fabbioneBenC: dude.. it's a reproducible crash02:05
fabbioneit did it twice02:05
fabbionebut the first time it managed to resurrect02:06
fabbionesorry :(02:06
BenChehe, no problem :)02:06
BenCI've caused it to lock 10 times in a day once, so once for you is ok :)02:06
jbaileyBenC: What about the big breaker to out there you talked about? =)02:06
jbaileyOr is that only for when it's snowing? =)02:06
BenCrebooting all the machines is more of a pain02:07
BenCbrb02:07
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BenCfabbione: do you know how to reproduce the crash?02:19
fabbioneBenC: yeps :)02:19
fabbionei was trying to use the machine a bit more02:19
fabbionecreated 3 chroots02:19
fabbione2 started building gcj-4.0 and gcj-4.102:20
fabbionethe 3rd one was unpacking the B-D for ghc602:20
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zulheylo03:57
AcidPils1hi06:03
AcidPils1http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5558  any ideas about that? 06:03
AcidPils1infinity: the firmware doesn't work :( alike all other i tryed :(06:04
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zulits quiet today09:31
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