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| lamont | BenC: if I'm silly enough to want to try 2.6.15 on breezy.... | 12:34 |
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| jbailey | lamont-away: 2.6.15 requires a newer udev. | 12:51 |
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| zul | heylo | 01:36 |
| mjg59 | BenC: No idea | 02:03 |
| mjg59 | It's a bit weird looking | 02:03 |
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| BenC | mjg59: what should i do with that bug? :) | 02:19 |
| BenC | lamont-away: hppa kernels built, but they aren't in the archive yet...any idea why? | 02:20 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Erm... :) | 02:20 |
| mjg59 | Honestly don't know (assuming you're talking about the weird USB one) | 02:20 |
| BenC | no, the IDE suspend one | 02:20 |
| mjg59 | Oh | 02:21 |
| mjg59 | That's not the bug number you pasted | 02:21 |
| BenC | let me check it | 02:21 |
| BenC | 10314, sorry | 02:22 |
| mjg59 | Oh, that | 02:22 |
| mjg59 | Yeah, I can knock up a patch for it | 02:22 |
| mjg59 | It's pretty easy | 02:22 |
| BenC | ok | 02:22 |
| lamont-away | BenC: NEW | 02:32 |
| lamont-away | is my guess | 02:32 |
| BenC | lamont-away: sparc and ia64 went in pretty quickly | 02:42 |
| BenC | everything is built, but hppa is the only one not in the archive | 02:42 |
| lamont-away | I think it's a matter of timing... | 02:48 |
| BenC | yeah, just odd that it is taking so long | 02:48 |
| jbailey | BenC: Got bandwidth? =) | 03:30 |
| jbailey | BenC: If you could test a klibc build on sparc, I'd appreciate it. | 03:30 |
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| BenC | from archive? | 03:36 |
| BenC | gcc-3.3? :) | 03:38 |
| BenC | jbailey: should it really be using linux-headers-2.6.12-9? | 03:39 |
| jbailey | Nah, the one I'm updating. | 03:39 |
| jbailey | Lemme post it, just a sec. | 03:39 |
| jbailey | BenC: The gcc-3.3 is a gcc bug. With my sparc unstable, I probably can't fix it, though. | 03:41 |
| BenC | I'll try building with gcc-4 | 03:41 |
| BenC | gcc-3.4 doesn't work either? | 03:41 |
| jbailey | It should be an easy fix, libgcc is leaking a reference to .umul and shouldn't be. | 03:41 |
| jbailey | Nope, gcc-3.4 and 4.0 both have the bug. | 03:41 |
| jbailey | My patience for toolchain hacking on an U5 is strained at the best of times. =) | 03:42 |
| BenC | does it fail when linking? | 03:42 |
| BenC | I'll do a compile with gcc-3.3, and look at the .umul problem later | 03:43 |
| jbailey | Yes. | 03:43 |
| jbailey | Hmm. I just updated to the 2.6.15-7 headers instead of 2.6.12-9 and it broke locally again. I might need to fix this tomorrow. | 03:47 |
| BenC | still want me to do a sparc build? | 03:47 |
| jbailey | Not yet. =) | 03:48 |
| jbailey | I will, though. Unless you're heading out? | 03:48 |
| BenC | nah, I'll be here for anohter hour or so | 03:48 |
| jbailey | Hmm | 03:55 |
| jbailey | I think I might go spend time with my wife, though. | 03:55 |
| jbailey | I'll catch up with this in the morning. | 03:55 |
| jbailey | I've already sent 3 klibc patches in today. =) | 03:55 |
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| infinity | Not sure how much of a win NUMA would be a dual CPU amd64. | 06:27 |
| HrdwrBoB | I'm not sure either | 06:27 |
| HrdwrBoB | It'd be interesting to do some comparative benchmarks | 06:28 |
| HrdwrBoB | but realistically - why not | 06:28 |
| infinity | I know there were stability issues with it in the past, that would be my only argument against enabling it unconditionally. | 06:28 |
| HrdwrBoB | the only documented stability issues I can find date back to 2.4/2.5 | 06:29 |
| fabbione | morning | 06:29 |
| HrdwrBoB | though obviously that's no exactly exhaustive testing | 06:29 |
| fabbione | HrdwrBoB: it's only overhead if you don't have a real NUMA system | 06:29 |
| HrdwrBoB | yes | 06:29 |
| fabbione | so pointless in a dual CPU amd64 | 06:29 |
| infinity | fabbione : But, as has been pointed out, all amd64 systems with >1 CPU are NUMA. | 06:30 |
| infinity | (Because of the embedded memory controller on the CPU) | 06:30 |
| infinity | A quick Googling taught me that Linux actually pulls some tricks to assign RAM ownership per CPU. | 06:30 |
| fabbione | is it actually used in such config? | 06:30 |
| infinity | Learn something new every day. | 06:31 |
| fabbione | also my BIOS claims that i have a HT cpu | 06:31 |
| fabbione | but my mobo can't use it | 06:31 |
| HrdwrBoB | all smp opteron boards have the same features though | 06:31 |
| HrdwrBoB | there isn't any low-end cheap dodgy motherboards for dual opterons that I've seen | 06:32 |
| HrdwrBoB | and even if they were, I'm not sure how they wouldn't implement it | 06:32 |
| fabbione | BenC: did you just reboot the e3k? | 07:10 |
| fabbione | BenC: meh.. ok i found a way to have a reproducible crash :/ | 07:32 |
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| infinity | mjg59 : Is vbetool supposed to build/work on ia64?.. If so, can you fix it?.. If not, can you make acpi-support stop requiring it on ia64? | 10:00 |
| Mithrandir | it is supposed to work. | 10:01 |
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| siretart | hi | 12:16 |
| siretart | didn't we agree that we don't ship kernel-patches in ubuntu (not even in universe)? | 12:16 |
| fabbione | yes... | 12:17 |
| siretart | I notice that kernel-patch-vserver is being synced over and over, so this seems to be a good candidate to be blacklisted/removed | 12:17 |
| siretart | but I wanted to ask here first | 12:17 |
| fabbione | it seems sensible | 12:20 |
| siretart | what is the procedure for this? just asking elmo to remove/blacklist it? | 12:23 |
| siretart | or filing a bug? | 12:23 |
| fabbione | ask elmo i think | 12:24 |
| siretart | ok | 12:24 |
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| BenC | fabbione: e3k died, thanks, now I have to walk in the rain to the cold barn to power cycle it :) | 02:05 |
| fabbione | BenC: dude.. it's a reproducible crash | 02:05 |
| fabbione | it did it twice | 02:05 |
| fabbione | but the first time it managed to resurrect | 02:06 |
| fabbione | sorry :( | 02:06 |
| BenC | hehe, no problem :) | 02:06 |
| BenC | I've caused it to lock 10 times in a day once, so once for you is ok :) | 02:06 |
| jbailey | BenC: What about the big breaker to out there you talked about? =) | 02:06 |
| jbailey | Or is that only for when it's snowing? =) | 02:06 |
| BenC | rebooting all the machines is more of a pain | 02:07 |
| BenC | brb | 02:07 |
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| BenC | fabbione: do you know how to reproduce the crash? | 02:19 |
| fabbione | BenC: yeps :) | 02:19 |
| fabbione | i was trying to use the machine a bit more | 02:19 |
| fabbione | created 3 chroots | 02:19 |
| fabbione | 2 started building gcj-4.0 and gcj-4.1 | 02:20 |
| fabbione | the 3rd one was unpacking the B-D for ghc6 | 02:20 |
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| zul | heylo | 03:57 |
| AcidPils1 | hi | 06:03 |
| AcidPils1 | http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5558 any ideas about that? | 06:03 |
| AcidPils1 | infinity: the firmware doesn't work :( alike all other i tryed :( | 06:04 |
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| zul | its quiet today | 09:31 |
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