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BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: hold on12:00
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: one last try12:00
Millenniumgroupsure12:00
zandaa<_< it appears the so-called 'faulty HD' I've been trying to access is my NTFS partition12:00
soundrayCybercool, is there anything in Printer Name?12:00
MillenniumgroupWho dares wins ;)12:00
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Cybercoolyes, PIXMA-IP1500-Ver.2.5012:01
ardchoillezandaa: help you with what?12:01
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joshito move directory command is "md path_from path_to"?12:01
ubun-newbiehow do i install adsl , sudo adsl-setup right12:01
Stormx2I did sudo bash, that got me root. My system tools still work fine, too.12:01
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: wget http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/d552812:01
Stormx2This normal?12:01
kenich1hi there12:01
zandaaardchoille nevermind, I got my HD working... it was a NTFS partition12:01
soundrayCybercool, well, why did you say it wasn't listed?12:01
zandaaardchoille thanks anyway12:01
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MillenniumgroupBlueDevil, done12:02
ubun-newbiehow do i install adsl , sudo adsl-setup right12:02
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: cat d5528 | tr -d \\015 > d5528.unix12:02
soundrayCybercool, anyway, if you have the PPD file, you should be able to print just fine.12:02
Cybercoolsoundray, i can't select printer model: it's on postscript12:02
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MillenniumgroupBlueDevil, done12:02
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: sudo cp d5528 /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:02
Cybercoolsoundray, what should be in command?12:02
ardchoillezandaa: oh, ok. I wouldn't have been able to help with NTFS anyway.12:02
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BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: no12:02
navaroneArkGullwing: maybe esd server starting up and interfering...when you get to log on press ctrl-alt-f1 and log in thru there...then type sudo killall esd    that will kill esd if present...then press ctrl-altf7 to get back to graphical log in and see if you can12:02
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Millenniumgroupdone12:02
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: sudo cp d5528.unix /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:02
Millenniumgroupok done12:03
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soundrayCybercool, leave that as it was, just point it to the PPD file.12:03
Millenniumgrouprestart x?12:03
zandaaanyone know why I can't listen to music from a NTFS partition???12:03
Cybercoolsoundray, i did but it doesn't print12:03
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BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: now, restart X12:03
Millenniumgroupk12:03
Millenniumgroupbrb12:03
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: goin' for a smoke12:03
kenichizandaa: should work. which player you use?12:03
zandaakenichi, the standard totem I think12:03
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soundrayCybercool, okay, what is in Command right now?12:04
kenichizandaa: does it pretend to play?12:04
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zandaakenichi, well it says it can't open because it can't write to the HD O_O12:04
efeilingMy system reboots when ever I try to play a game under my 64-bit install.12:04
soundrayBlueDevil, I'll let him know ;)12:04
hawkinganyone who uses valknut here?12:04
efeilingDid anyone ever had the problem.12:04
ArkGullwingALL: I'm trying to try out this OS and when i run the live boot disk, when it gets to the part where it plays the start up music and i guess there should be a desktop, the video is bad.. verticle lines that make my eyes hurt.. im using NVidia GEForce FX 5700LE12:04
Cybercoolsoundray, this is in the command line: lp -s -dPIXMA-iP1500-Ver.2.50 -oraw12:04
efeilingMy system hard locks or just reboots.12:04
kenichizandaa: have you tried another player?12:04
hawkingwhen I connect to the hub it starts to give this error : FreeDiscSpace : no such folder or file12:05
zandaakenichi, not yet... I'll try though12:05
BlueDevilsoundray: i'm going home, bbl, please tell me if it worked when I return (~30 mins)12:05
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kenichizandaa: perhaps totem wants to open with write rights for editing tags or stuff like that12:05
williamWhy won't MPlayer save my settings?12:05
soundrayBlueDevil, okay.12:05
zandaakenichi, rhythmbox crashes O_O12:05
soundrayCybercool, it's hard to diagnose from here.12:06
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Cybercoolsoundray, i get a printer at te buttom right and there is an task in there, but it just disapears after a minute or so12:06
Millenniumgroup:)12:06
kenichizandaa: ah, with rythmbox i had a comparable problem. it didnt want to open files from ntfs12:07
efeilingCould anyone help me with my problem.12:07
MillenniumgroupBlueDevil, it finally worked my friend, THANK YOU :)12:07
efeilingI've been having it for the longest time.12:07
kenichitry xmms12:07
kenichizandaa: try xmms12:07
soundrayCybercool, if you have Openoffice, you could try and print from Draw - that allows you to resize a picture and place it on the page.12:07
mrkojeefeiling what is your problem12:07
kenichizandaa: its a good player like winamp and worked for me12:07
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Cybercoolsoundray ok12:07
zandaakenichi, where would I get xmms??? and btw... it also crashes from a FAT partition12:07
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Cybercoolsoundray, how to print from draw in openoffice12:08
soundrayMillenniumgroup, BlueDevil is on his way home. Will you be here for ~30 minutes?12:08
kenichizandaa: that sounds wrong to me ;)12:08
kenichiyou can get xmms with synaptic packet manager but should be shipped with ubuntu12:08
zandaaif it's shipped with ubuntu, where would I find it?12:09
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philosophiahi12:09
Millenniumgroupsoundray, sure?12:09
soundrayCybercool, open the image file in Draw. Place the image on the page, print with File - Print.12:09
Cybercoolok12:09
kenichizandaa: Applications -> Sound & Video -> XMMS12:09
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zandaait isn't12:10
soundrayMillenniumgroup, he said he'd be back in about that time.12:10
philosophiai want to clean up my server.  is there any way i can cd to /, then ls, and have it tell me which directories are the most used12:10
philosophia?12:10
philosophiarunning out of space12:10
soundrayMillenniumgroup, I bet he'll be pleased.12:10
kenichizandaa: try xmms in console12:10
Millenniumgroupsoundray, I'll wait and ya ...well hopefully he'll loose the headache :D12:10
zandaaxmms: command not found12:10
Millenniumgroupsoundray, thank you as well :)12:10
soundrayMillenniumgroup, well done for not being one to give up!12:10
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kenichizandaa: otherwise install xmms with synaptic packet manager12:11
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zandaakenichi, ok I'll try thanks12:11
navaronezandaa I has similar permissions prob with fat32 partition. I ahd to create a folder on drive thru ubuntu in order to transfer files between. Original folders retained permissions from windows12:11
Millenniumgroupwell I almost gave up ;) BlueDevil told me "one last try" :)12:11
soundrayMillenniumgroup, if you want to quit, I'll let him know.12:11
soundrayMillenniumgroup, I know!12:11
efeilingHey12:11
Millenniumgroupsoundray, nah I'll stick around12:11
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Cybercoolsoudray, ow ok, i resised and it's going to print now12:11
zandaanavarone, could you explain more clearly??? (I'm kinda sleepy and originally dutch, so you confuse me)12:11
efeilingDo anyone have a NF4 mother board with an AMD 64-bit chip?12:12
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soundrayMillenniumgroup, that's great, because in that case, I won't stick around.12:12
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soundrayCybercool, you're saying it's working?12:12
Cybercoolsoundray, yes it's printing12:12
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Cybercoolsoundray, it ready12:12
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Millenniumgroupsoundray, ok see you later :)12:12
soundrayCybercool, looking good?12:12
soundrayMillenniumgroup, cheers.12:13
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guido_anyone here skilled with firestarter?12:13
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philosophiaany way to cd into a directory then ls, then have ls list the subdirectories in order of size?12:13
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efeilingMy system reboots mrkoje12:13
navaronezandaa> I use a fat32 partiton to share muisc between ubuntu and win2k. Although linux can write to fat32 I was not able to directly save files to the windows created folders. I had to create folders on fat32 in ubuntu and then transfer files to that folder to eventually transfer to folder set for p2p share12:13
Cybercoolsoundray, it's in the corner, but leaving abount 1cm of space on the buttom and 3mm of space on the side12:13
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soundrayphilosophia, use du: du -s | sort -n12:13
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philosophiathanks12:14
Cybercoolsoudray, howto print on 4x6, do i have to set to 4x6 or not12:14
williamHoly crap, I can play an old Windows game with WINE.12:14
zandaanavarone, this isn't truly about file sharing... I just wanna listen to music12:14
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Stormx2william: I know!12:14
Stormx2Worms is brilliant!12:14
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ma4ti4hi all, i have a quick question, can some1 recommend me some nice mp3 player?12:14
pr1rhey all... i am having a problem installing nvidia drivers for my geforce fx 5200 agp card... i get this error when i load up like 2 blue screens and then it lets me sign in and stuff on the screen and then just runs terminal i guess12:14
williamI'm playing Free Enterprise, un underrated business sim.12:15
soundrayCybercool, it's a matter of trying. You could also ring Canon support and give them hell :)  I've done that to them, for not supporting my IP5200R under Linux...12:15
Stormx2whats the dos-emulating equivilent of wine?12:15
wijI had a NetWare 3.11 worm on my HD.12:15
navaronezandaa> is the drive set up to be readonly?12:15
williamDosEmu12:15
philosophiasoundray - this will take a while right?12:15
soundrayStormx2 dosemu12:15
philosophiaif i'm in /12:15
zandaanavarone, no it isn't... it's my Apple iPod music player that has FAT partition12:15
Cybercoolsoundray, thanks for you help12:15
soundrayphilosophia, yes!12:15
Cybercoolsoundray, bye12:15
zandaaand it's properly supported12:15
soundrayCybercool, see ya.12:15
williamDOSEmu is actually better then the original.12:15
williamThank God we no longer have to rely on FreeDOS.12:16
navaronezandaa...i think rythmbox can download and access files from ipod. I dunno if it needs extra files to do so tyho12:16
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soundrayphilosophia, you know df ?12:16
zandaanavarone, it's not specifically the iPod.... it can't read any files12:17
efeilingCan anyone help me?12:17
wij?12:17
sethkefeiling, with what?12:17
zandaanavarone, that's because it just crashes on startup12:17
efeilingI'm sure it's just something wrong with my X Config file.12:17
mdkei'm following a howto about setting up an smtp server, and I have come to a point where it suggests I choose a method of pam authentication. It has suggested ldap, what other alternatives are there?12:17
philosophiasoundray yes12:17
efeilingMy system reboots everytime I try to run a 3D app12:17
philosophiaright now i'm du -s | sort -n < /home/me/du.txt12:17
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navaronezandaa: is the ipod automounting when plugged in?12:17
efeilingLike for example if I try to run WoW using Cedega it hard locks my system or reboot my PC.12:18
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erUSULefeiling, card driver combo?12:18
zandaanavarone, yes it is, why?12:18
soundrayphilosophia, I hope the < is a >12:18
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efeilingI'm sure of it12:18
erUSULefeiling, something in the logs?12:18
kevortutorial in action, changed my bootsplashscreen: www.kev0r.nl/pc090899.mov12:18
efeilingI have the lastest driver from nvidia.12:18
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soundrayphilosophia, you could also leave out the -s if you're piping the output to a file anyway.12:18
navaronezandaa: jsut trying to see what is wrong12:18
philosophiayes it is12:18
williamHow come WineSetup and Wine don't get along?12:18
efeilingI can't catch anyting in the logs.12:18
efeilingMy system locks so I can't get to it.12:19
pr1refeiling what type of video card you have?12:19
mrkojeefeiling: might be somthing wrong with your driver for card... might be system getting to hot12:19
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zandaanavarone, nothing is wrong anymore... I just using xmms now.. kinda used to winamp so just as easy12:19
sethkefeiling, that's a serious bug, not just a configuration problem.  Although it isn't impossible that you can work around it with the configuration12:19
efeilingRoswell 6600GT 128MB12:19
navaroneahh12:19
philosophiasoundray - if i'm in / , will this command go into sub sub directories and so on?12:19
soundrayphilosophia, that way you'll get a sorted list of all directorys, not just the first level in /12:19
pr1rdamn12:19
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zandaakevor, how can I play mov?12:19
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: your eyes will get tired @60Hz :P12:19
efeilingI'm running the 64-bit ver of Ubuntu.12:19
navaronezandaa: were you trying amarok?12:19
soundrayphilosophia, yes, it will.12:19
pr1rhowd u get it to work???12:19
kevorvlc12:19
kevoror mplayer12:19
philosophiacool12:19
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zandaanavarone, what's amarok?12:20
kevorzandaa: vlc or mplayer12:20
zandaaok12:20
efeilingYeah, I've always had that problem.12:20
joshican anyone tell me how i connect to some ftp server?12:20
soundrayefeiling, could this be a hardware fault?12:20
navaronezandaa...no matter12:20
BlueDevilzandaa: audio player12:20
zandaaah ok12:20
efeilingI wouldn't think that because it work under Windows XP(32-bit)12:20
zandaaxmms works great12:20
soundrayAhh, BlueDevil is back.12:20
MillenniumgroupBluedevil, lol ya, so my screen doesn't support 72hz ?12:20
Millenniumgroupand tx buddy for making it work :)12:20
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BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: yw12:20
erUSULjoshi, with a ftp client12:20
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kevorzandaa: in console: wget www.kev0r.nl/pc090899.mov; vlc pc090899.mov12:21
erUSULjoshi, with nautilus12:21
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: it doesn't support 75Hz, don't know about 7212:21
joshiok..12:21
fr500Seveas: i get some errors when downloading w32codecs from your server12:21
BlueDevilhey soundray12:21
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fr500seveas like 403forbidden :P12:21
williamfr500, I use FFMpeg, it's better.12:21
soundrayBlueDevil, great work on Millenniumgroup's problem.12:21
BlueDevilfr500: it's intentional :)12:21
efeilingSo you guys have no ideal on what it is then.12:21
BlueDevilsoundray: thanks12:22
efeilingAny ideals, I'll try just about anything at this point.12:22
joshinautilus sais that i the server cannot be displayed12:22
soundrayefeiling, a hardware problem?12:22
efeilingIt work under Windows XP12:22
efeilingSo I wouldn't think that.12:22
fr500BlueDevil: why?12:22
Millenniumgrouphmm.. k so I guess I got 2 choices then, have more things running on my screen and get tired or go back to my previous reso lol.. anyways it doesn't matter I'll try to run it at 1280 and see if my eyes adapt, anyways thank you so much for sticking with my noob problem I hope your head ache will go away soon :)12:22
efeilingI mean I'm going to get another card( different brand) sometime this week.12:22
BlueDevilfr500: licensing issues I guess...you can ask and he'll give you access12:23
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soundrayefeiling, maybe temperature?12:23
efeilingNow that the new drivers have SLI support.12:23
fr500ok12:23
efeilingIs there a temp setting that I could change?12:23
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fr500Seveas: can i have access to w32 codecs?12:23
soundrayAnyway, have to go.12:23
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: wanna try 72Hz?12:23
soundrayCheers guys12:23
efeilingUnder Windows I can play 32 games for hours.12:23
efeilingIn fact I've done it.12:23
zandaayay, my first apt-get without problems XD12:23
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lightbrighthey hey :)12:23
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soundrayHope you get it fixed efeiling.12:23
BlueDevilzandaa: well done :)12:24
lightbrightzandaa: yipee ;)12:24
MillenniumgroupBlueDevil sure man12:24
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wijNTFS sucks,  copy the files to reiser and play them12:24
Millenniumgrouphow would I edit my xorg to do that?12:24
efeilingWell, I'm going to get another card it.12:24
zandaabluedevil, thanks... I'm new to Linux12:24
lightbrightzandaa: exciting isnt it? ;)12:24
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wijNTFS is windows,  copy the files to reiser and play them12:24
zandaalightbright, it kinda is.. linux is just an entirely new world to explore12:24
lightbrightzandaa: everyone is new to linux :)12:24
efeilingSo I'll make the other card my main card12:24
philosophiasoundray - will this take like hour or something?12:24
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: open /etc/X11/xorg.conf in an editor12:24
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efeilingI just wanted to see if anyone had problems like that.12:24
lightbrightzandaa: once you embrace it, be patient and never give up!  you will never go back12:24
Millenniumgroupdone bluedevil12:25
zandaalightbright: I'll have to once I have to do schoolwork... (powerpoint presentations etc)12:25
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: what editor?12:25
Millenniumgroupgedit12:25
BlueDevilok12:25
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Seveasfr500, sure, sec12:25
lightbrightzandaa: use open office for that12:25
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.ok12:26
lightbrightzandaa: it supports powerpoint12:26
Seveasfr500, please pm me your ip address12:26
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lightbrightSeveas: hello12:26
zandaalightbright: I tried earlier and couldn't make one that's compliant with Microsoft powerpoint....12:26
chrisx1what other desktops are there?12:26
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Seveashaya lightbright12:26
lightbrightzandaa: open office does indeed make compatible powerpoint12:26
lightbrightSeveas: :)12:27
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MillenniumgroupBD done12:27
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zandaalightbright, thanks for sharing that I'll try again later (that means... when I'm not so **** tires)12:27
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BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: ok, now search for the modeline line in the monitor section12:27
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BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: in gedit12:27
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lightbrightzandaa: whats your car tires got to do with it? :)12:28
SyirrusNe1 know if there are alpha or beta sblive xfi drivers out for ubuntu?12:28
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MillenniumgroupSection "Monitor"12:28
MillenniumgroupIdentifier"Generic Monitor"12:28
MillenniumgroupOption"DPMS"12:28
MillenniumgroupHorizSync30-9612:28
MillenniumgroupVertRefresh50-16012:28
Millenniumgroup        Modeline "1280x1024" 109.62  1280 1336 1472 1720  1024 1024 1026 106212:28
MillenniumgroupEndSection12:28
Millenniumgroupthat one right?12:28
zandaalightbright, sorry... I ment tired... and 15 year-olds aren't allowed to drive cars here12:28
BlueDevilyes12:28
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: but don't paste that many lines in the channel12:28
SeveasMillenniumgroup, NEVER paste in here12:28
erUSULMillenniumgroup, please do not paste here12:28
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Millenniumgroupsorry guys12:28
erUSULMillenniumgroup, use pastebin12:28
erikstianyone know what I should do?   $ modprobe ndiswrapper  --->  FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid argument12:28
Seveasnext time will be rewarded with a kick12:28
Millenniumgroupyup I will12:29
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: you can paste in a query to me, I don't mind12:29
Millenniumgroupah yes12:29
erUSULeriksti, it is a custom kernel?12:29
Syirruseriksti: what versionof ubuntu are you using?12:29
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chrisx1what other desktops are there?12:29
erikstiI'm using Kubuntu, default everything12:29
BlueDevilSeveas: there were much worse episodes today :)12:29
sethkeriksti, figure out the invalid and/or missing argument12:29
MillenniumgroupBlueDevil, what value should I change?12:29
SeveasBlueDevil, heh, bad day for me to take a day off it seems :)12:30
Syirruseriksti: use synaptic and search for ndiswrapper12:30
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MiSS_n00bhi can anyone help im having probs with my nvidia drivers, open gl isnt working, and theres a black strip down the left side of the screen, i have tried reinstalling the drivers, any ideas how i can fix this?12:30
Jowieriksti: i thought your card was supported without ndiswrapper...?12:30
Syirruseriksti: there is a gui interface for it which makes it easy to install12:30
erikstiJowi: gave up12:30
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: ok, now I need you to replace the whole line that starts with "Modeline" with the line I am going to give you12:30
Jowioh12:30
erikstiSyirrus: ndistgtk, yes12:30
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zandaahow do I make connection to FTP server?12:31
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: Modeline "1280x1024" 143.02  1280 1352 1528 1856  1024 1024 1027 107012:31
MillenniumgroupBlueDevil ok12:31
Seveaszandaa, places -> connect to server12:31
Syirrusetiksti: what happens when you run it?12:31
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erikstindisgtk: Failed to load GTK bindings. Please check your Gnome installation... I'm running KDE :)12:31
erUSULzandaa, with a ftp client (ftp, gftp, nautilus....)12:31
Seveaseriksti, then you can't use ndisgtk12:31
Syirrusah yes12:31
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MillenniumgroupBlueDevil ok done12:32
Millenniumgrouprestart x?12:32
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: no12:32
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BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: paste the whole monitor section on pastebin12:32
erikstiso how do I "figure out the invalid argument" ?12:32
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Millenniumgroup!pastebin12:33
uboturumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com12:33
lightbrightBlueDevil: you must be joking!12:33
BlueDevillightbright: ?12:33
david_m_ei have some questions re: c++ dev environments; i joined #gcc (37 members), and nobody was saying anything...12:33
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lightbrightBlueDevil: yeah12:33
david_m_eso...12:33
zandaaseveas: thanks12:33
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Seveasdavid_m_e, what's the problem?12:33
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zandaaerusul: thank you also12:34
erikstisethk: how can I figure out the invalid/missing argument?12:34
BlueDevillightbright: what?12:34
lightbrightBlueDevil: you must be joking!  the devil aint blue dude12:34
BlueDevillightbright: quit it already :)12:34
sethkeriksti, you may have to trace what is happening during that command (strace will help)12:34
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null42hello? im new at irc....12:35
lightbrightBlueDevil: :)12:35
MillenniumgroupBlueDevil, plz check your pm :)12:35
null42how do i join #linuX-clan.q?12:35
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BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: you can't pm me, you are not a registered user12:35
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erikstisethk: sounds like something a noob will have a hard time figuring out12:35
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BlueDevildamn you chanserv!12:36
MillenniumgroupBlueDevil, ah ok12:36
david_m_eis any here familiar with "old style" compiled developement, and the advance that was made with QuickBasic, with it's ability to breakpoint execution, examine variable values, and even change code? it was a major milestone in coding speed; i'm wondering if a similar environment exists in Linux/Ubuntu, and if it comes free or what the name of the company is who makes it12:36
Millenniumgrouphttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/553012:36
SeveasBlueDevil, /ns set unfiltered off12:36
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BlueDevilSeveas: i know...:)12:36
Syirrusnull42: hello how are you doing?12:36
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erUSULdavid_m_e, lisp ;)12:36
dooglus_did you see the newly discovered firefox vulnerability?12:36
erUSULdavid_m_e, check gambas12:37
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fallen_hi12:37
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: ok, now save the file and close gedit12:37
_jasondooglus what's that?12:37
erUSULdavid_m_e, check gambas is a basic framework similar to visualbasic12:37
dooglus_ubuntu's firefox 1.0.7 crashes permanently if it visits the 'wrong' page12:37
MillenniumgroupBD done12:37
Syirrusreally12:37
Seveasdooglus_, then don't surf for porn...12:37
_jasondooglus, is 1.5 patched against it?12:37
dooglus_Seveas: not just porn - any page can do it12:37
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fallen_can some one explain me how to instal something with synaptic12:37
david_m_ethank you erUSUL; what are the popular editors for code?12:37
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Seveasdavid_m_e, vim12:37
Mabus06dooglus, not *just* porn?12:37
Seveasand emacs12:38
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: after you restart X it doesn't work, don't do dpkg-reconfigure stuff12:38
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j-linuxDoes anyone here run Ubuntu on a Dell Latitude d810?12:38
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Seveas!tell j-linux about anyone12:38
david_m_ei'm vaguely familiar with vim; any others?12:38
dooglus_it destroys your history.dat file - so you should back it up (it's in ~/.mozilla/firefox/<something>/history.dat )12:38
MillenniumgroupBD, ok.. what should I do instead?12:38
Millenniumgroupgedit the xorg ?12:38
erUSULdavid_m_e, emacs do not listen to the few that still believe in vi12:38
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: do "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.ok /etc/X11/xorg.conf"12:38
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Seveasdooglus, ah - evil12:38
chrisx1!anyone12:38
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>12:38
MHobbit_Ubuntu<3 Ubuntu12:38
_jasondavid_m_e, I'll have to go with vim12:38
david_m_emust profess ignorance of what 'emacs' is12:38
chrisx1lol12:38
_jasondavid_m_e, good, keep it that way :D12:39
Seveasdavid_m_e, you should stay sane and keep it that way12:39
Millenniumgroupthat's all?12:39
dooglus_there's an example page here: http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/crash-firefox.htm - click the link on that page, then quit firefox and try to restart it.  I couldn't...12:39
BlueDevilyes12:39
Millenniumgroupk12:39
Millenniumgrouprestarting x now12:39
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Seveasdavid_m_e, easier to use editors include gedit, kate, anjuta, kdevelop, eclipse12:39
dooglus_Seveas: is there a #ubuntu-security or somewhere where this should be reported?12:39
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Seveasdooglus_, bugzilla12:39
erUSULdavid_m_e, anathema!!! XD (btw gambas is an ide it comes with its own code editor)12:39
david_m_ethanks, Sev;12:39
dooglus_Seveas: oh, ok.12:40
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SyirrusNe1 out there able to get creative's X-fi sound card to install?12:40
dooglus_Seveas: incidentally, is http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/ down?  Or is the problem at my end?12:40
david_m_eerUSUL, is gambas is free ?12:40
Seveasdooglus_, bug is filed already12:40
Seveashttp://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2068812:40
dooglus_Seveas: number?12:40
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erUSULdavid_m_e, yes is libre12:40
david_m_edanke12:41
j-linuxSince I can't see the computer (Dell Latitude D810) before I buy it and I am going to be running Ubuntu on it -- I am wondering how the UXGA display looks when the resolution is reduced.  Fuzzy or not?  I don't care to much how it looks under Windows.  I'm wondering if the resolution will be to small for me to read, although I've heard the display looks great.12:41
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BlueDevilj-linux: man, don't buy dell :)12:41
david_m_ebtw, how do i do the 'red' thing where my response to a specific person is easy for that person to read?12:41
BlueDevilj-linux: look here: http://ivlad.unixgods.net/lj/keylog/klog.htm12:42
j-linuxBluDevil: why not?  I'm down to either ThinkPad or Dell but Dell is easier to buy.12:42
erUSULj-linux, go to the shop with the livecd and ask politely to boot it in the laptop12:42
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Seveasj-linux, don't reduce resolution, increae fontsize...12:42
Jowidavid_m_e: it's automatic12:42
j-linuxI'm in Hawaii -- no Dell locations and just one ThinkPad location (UH students only)12:42
SeveasI hate Dell :)12:42
erikstiJowi: i have up on the normal stuff cause it says "no wireless extensions." all over the plate, with no instructions other than pointing to ndiswrapper12:42
david_m_esimply by having the respondant as the first word of one's response?12:42
j-linuxSeveas: why is that?12:42
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BlueDevilSeveas: that makes  two of us :)12:42
j-linuxI read linux on laptops sites and Ubuntu seems to run ok on the Latitude D81012:43
logical_markHey could someone help me out. My sound is really staticy but ONLY in linux...12:43
zandaahey guys??? it seems I need to have root access to browse my NTFS drive, how can I make a root shortcut???12:43
Jowieriksti: sorry, i'm not the person to ask for help. you emptied my limited knowledge in that area :)12:43
BlueDevilzandaa: why is that?12:43
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Seveasj-linux, because they ship crap and make it expensive12:43
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Seveasand you can't add hardware without (void)ing the warranty12:44
Flashmatthi, i'm new to ubuntu, can i post a question here?12:44
topylizandaa: woudn't it be better to fix the mount options so you could read the drive as a regular user?12:44
mwezandaa: you don't need root to access your ntfs drive. just mount it properly12:44
erikstiJowi: okay.. guess I'll just leave it alone.. wireless in linux sux! :)  not linux' fault though, I guess12:44
SeveasFlashmatt, that's why this channel exists :)12:44
BlueDevilFlashmatt: it seems you already did12:44
Flashmattthx :)12:44
Flashmattgood point...12:44
erUSULzandaa, just add the option users to the fstab line (and the correct umask)12:44
syndicatehow do i use SVG themes?12:44
Seveaseriksti, wireless in linux rocks12:44
Seveassome companies just suck12:44
zandaamwe: then how do I mount it properly (the installation did it automatic)12:44
Flashmattso anyways, I've scoured the internet12:44
dooglus_zandaa: you don't need root access.  you can mount with options like "umask=0"12:44
SeveasFlashmatt, always a good start12:45
erikstiSeveas: so, tell me how to get my ipw2200bg going12:45
Flashmattand cannot find the info that'll make the WEP on my wmp11v4 wireless card to work under ubuntu12:45
Seveaseriksti, modprobe ipw220012:45
Flashmatthas anyone else had a similar problem?12:45
SeveasFlashmatt, can you post the output of lspci on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl12:45
mwezandaa: what does the ntfs line in /etc/fstab say? you need user,umask=0222 in there under the options12:45
erikstiSeveas: FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid argument12:45
JowiSeveas: of course you can. all dell desktops are built with clips (no screws to change hdd's, cpu fans, gpus etc). i worked for dell support for a year (europe) and we constantly guided customers through that.12:45
zandaaetc/fstab I'll check12:45
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dooglus_zandaa: my /etc/fstab line says "/dev/hda1 /mnt/c        ntfs noauto,umask=0,nls=iso8859-1,uid=501,gid=501,nls=iso8859-15    0 0".  It's not idea - I don't know why I have 2 different nls= options!  But it lets me see the disk without being root.12:45
Jowino voided warranty12:45
Seveaseriksti, ipw does not need ndiswrapper12:45
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LoPMXhu12:46
LoPMXhi12:46
LoPMXanyone using nx6110 laptop here?12:46
Seveaseriksti, moreover ndiswrapper only works properly in the -686 or -k7 kernel12:46
erikstiSeveas: modprobe ipw2200 gives no output, sorry12:46
erUSULeriksti, use the native driver12:46
j-linuxSeveas: then what do you recommend that will run Ubuntu/Linux and has a good at-home service plan?12:46
Seveaseriksti, good, then it works :)12:46
LoPMXok intel media accelerator (gma) 900?12:46
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Flashmattok give me a second12:46
xiaogilIs there a GNU or free search engine like Google ?12:46
j-linuxBlueDevil: I just read that about the keylogger.  Is that your site?12:46
erikstiSeveas: cool, so how do I start using it?12:46
challahhey all i have a question before i restart my computer...12:46
Seveasj-linux, no hardware vendor does at-home service for linux12:46
BlueDevilj-linux: nope12:46
Seveaseriksti, ifup eth1 (or whatever name t got assigned)12:46
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Jowigot to go, night all12:47
zandaamwe: type ntfs options defaults and dump and pass are set to 012:47
Syirrusnight12:47
Seveaseriksti, do you have a wired connection to that machine?12:47
mwezandaa: yeah12:47
j-linuxSeveas:  they said they would send someone to my house with parts if it breaks.12:47
syndicatedoes anyone know how to use SVG themes?12:47
mwezandaa: you need user,umask=0222 in there under the options12:47
challahim usin 5.1 im tryin to install drivers for my agp geforce fx 5200 video card... i did and now i have to restart...12:47
BlueDevilj-linux: it links from there: http://braincore.blogspot.com/2005/12/wtf-conspiracy-anyone.html12:47
dooglus_zandaa: edit the file, and add ",uid=0" to the end of the options.  that'll fix it12:47
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erikstiSeveas: sure.. ifup eth1 gives Ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1.12:47
challahdo i have to edit anything before i restart>???12:47
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FlashmattSeveas: not to sound like a total newb, but how do I output the lspci?12:47
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erikstiSeveas: I'm using the same machine right now12:48
dooglus_zandaa: no, sorry!  not that, ",umask=0"12:48
challahlike xorg.conf12:48
Seveaseriksti, cool12:48
zandaamwe: it wont let me edit12:48
mwezandaa: you need to do it with sudo12:48
zandaamwe: because it's read-only12:48
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dooglus_zandaa: "sudo gedit /etc/fstab" will let you edit12:48
Seveaseriksti, put /etc/network/interfaces and the output of ifconfig -a on the pastebin12:48
zandaaah ok12:48
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erUSULeriksti, use ifconfig -a to figure out the name it got assigned12:48
SeveasFlashmatt, open a terminal (applications -> accessories -> terminal) and enter the command lspci there12:48
jdkycdochi, i have just installed the nvidia driver and the acceleration is working fine but my resolution changed from 1280x800 to 1280x768, how can i fix this?12:49
Flashmattokie dokie ;-)12:49
j-linuxBlueDevil: It looks like that keylogger thing is a hoax.12:49
BlueDevilj-linux: how so?12:49
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erUSUL!tell jdkycdoc about fixres12:49
j-linuxtype "dell hardware keylogger" into Google (no quotes)12:49
zandaamwe: ok... as option I did "user,umask=0222" but it hasn't yet changed... do I need to reboot for it to have effect?12:50
challahcan anyone help me on how to propperly set up nvidia drivers???12:50
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Seveas!tell challah about nvidia12:50
kenichijdkycdoc: hi12:50
challahseveas: i did that already i get this error when i turn the computer back on12:50
mwezandaa: just remount12:51
kenichijdkycdoc: you have to enter the proper screen resolutions into your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file12:51
zandaamwe: oh ok (stupid me :S)12:51
jdkycdochi kenichi12:51
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Flashmattseveas: problem #2 that computer is not connected to the internet at all, so I'll type the part you're most interested in12:51
challahseveas: i get these 2 blue screens they both say the same thing12:51
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Flashmatt0000:00.0d.02 Cisco...unknown device12:51
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Flashmattok...i guess that didn't help much12:52
zandaamwe: thanks alot :D it works like a charm :D12:52
Taa5iHas anyone had any success getting an HP NetRaid SCSI/RAID controller to work in Ubuntu, please?12:52
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kenichijdkycdoc: after putting them into your xorg.conf file you can switch between the different resolutions with Screen Resolution tool12:52
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erikstiSeveas:  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/45485112:52
mwezandaa: good. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions suggests slightly different options though12:52
zandaaare there codecs for linux to play windows formats?12:52
SeveasFlashmatt, Flashmatt 'unknown device' does not sound promising12:52
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Flashmattgood point12:52
Flashmattbut i got wlan0 all set up and stuff12:52
MiSS_n00bhi can anyone help im having probs with my nvidia drivers, open gl isnt working, and theres a black strip down the left side of the screen, i have tried reinstalling the drivers, any ideas how i can fix this?12:52
nekostarquestion:12:52
erUSUL!tell zanda about w32codecs12:53
Flashmatti just can't get the unknown device part to go away12:53
Seveaseriksti, do you need to use wep?12:53
erUSUL!tell zandaa about w32codecs12:53
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erikstiSeveas: don't think so12:53
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nekostarim about to put the gel on for my cpu12:53
Seveaseriksti, cool, let's test:12:53
j-linuxSo it is better to go with the UXGA screen instead of the SXGA screen and then make the fonts bigger?  It's not going to look like crap in Ubuntu?12:53
zandaaerUSUL: I don't think those work on a 64-bit system12:53
nekostari noticed next to the core there are little things to12:53
Seveassudo ifconfig eth1 up12:53
nekostardo i need to gel them also?12:53
dooglushow can I get my domain name server into /etc/resolv.conf if I use a static IP, not DHCP?12:53
Seveassudo dhclient eth112:53
chrisx1how do i change my desktop manager from kdm to gdm??12:53
kyncaniMiSS_n00b: first, follow the nvidia howto on ubuntu wiki12:53
Seveasdooglus, with vim :)12:53
MiSS_n00bi have12:53
dooglusevery time I boot, resolv.conf loses its nameserver field12:53
Taa5ichrisx1: sudo apt-get install gdm12:54
MiSS_n00bi've been trying to fix it all day12:54
dooglusSeveas: there's no better way?12:54
Seveaschrisx1, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm12:54
MiSS_n00bim about to reinstall:(12:54
zandaaerUSUL: those codecs do work on a 64-bit system right???12:54
chrisx1Taa5i, its installed tho i changed it when i install kubuntu12:54
erikstiSeveas: getting these things: DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 1712:54
Seveasdooglus, dns-nameservers 1.2.3.4 in /etc/network/interfaces12:54
erUSULdooglus, /etc/hosts12:54
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chrisx1Seveas, ty12:54
dooglusSeveas: ok, thanks12:54
doogluserUSUL: it'd have to be one huge /etc/hosts!12:55
kyncaniMiSS_n00b: i think if you follow the nvidia wiki, either it works with opengl or you don't get X working at all (but i'm no expert)12:55
Seveaseriksti, ok, ifconfig -a; iwconfig12:55
Seveasoutput on the pastebin again :)12:55
doogluserUSUL: or are you suggesting that I can specify a nameserver in /etc/hosts?12:55
Seveaseriksti, and while you're at it: sudo iwlist scan12:55
MiSS_n00bi had opengl working before12:55
erUSULzandaa, i do not know but i suspect that is not the case12:55
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erikstiSeveas: no scan results12:55
erikstiSeveas: no wirless extensions12:56
zandaaerUSUL: so you're saying they don't work on 64>12:56
Seveaseriksti, is your accesspoint working? :)12:56
zandaaoh nvm12:56
jdkycdockenichi, yes i think thats it, anyway im reading something before doing so12:56
erUSULdooglus, i missunderstood the question sorry12:56
les_anyone know when firefox 1.5 will be available12:57
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Seveasnever in breezy12:57
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j-linuxI like Firefox 1.0.7 better than 1.5...12:58
les_its got memory leaks12:58
dooglusSeveas: are you sure about "dns-nameservers"?  I don't see it mentioned in interfaces(5)...12:58
_kcheung!quicktime12:58
ubotusomebody said quicktime was read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information on quicktime support or just install the "libquicktime1" package.12:58
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Seveasdooglus, maybe domain-name-servers12:58
erikstiSeveas: if I ping the ip i get fast reply12:58
erUSULzandaa, yes12:58
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erUSULdooglus, man resolvconf12:58
Seveaseriksti, yeah, via the wired interface I guess12:59
erikstiSeveas: yes12:59
Seveasanyway, gotta run12:59
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SyirrusI wish they would port foobar over to linux :)12:59
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kenichijdkycdoc: the Section "Screen" in your xorg.conf file should like this: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/553112:59
Johnsonhi12:59
erikstianyone able to pick up where seveas left ?12:59
SyirrusHello Johnson12:59
ale3hsI have download codecs32 however I cannot play rmvb files in gxine either wmv and wma01:00
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ale3hswhat codec I need for real player01:00
ale3hs?01:00
Johnsonwhat would you reckomend i should learn firt scapy or hping3 ?01:00
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brand0nim attempting to apply a theme to a program, but can not find where i should unzip the theme, the archive has .fluxbox as a folder inside, where would this be on the system?01:01
Syirrus?01:01
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brand0nusing synaptic, where are applications installed?01:01
Johnsonim not sure which one would be the esyiest to learn01:01
ale3hscodec for rmvb files, somebody plz?01:02
kyncaniale3hs: i would try mplayer instead of xine01:02
kyncaniale3hs: or maybe vlc01:02
erUSULbrand0n, mainly under usr01:02
dave_brand0n: to know about all the files installed with a package use: dpkg -L <app_name>01:02
BlueDevilbrand0n: man hier01:02
brand0nerUSUL, dave_ thanks, you too BlueDevil01:02
ale3hskyncani, why there is any possibility to play with VLC?01:02
les_bye01:02
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ale3hskyncani, codecs arent shared?01:03
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graybandithey all - I finished installing ubuntu 5.10 on my old laptop, only apparent issue is it cannot find my sound card (Toshiba Satellite 4000cds, old) anywhere I should read up on to fix this?01:04
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kyncaniale3hs: xine, mplayer and vlc are the three big video players for linux (with different interfaces for some of them, like gxine or totem-xine for xine). When i cannot play a vide with mplayer, i try xine, or vlc01:04
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jesse_does anyone know how to install limewire01:05
ale3hskyncani, vlc or mplayer cannot play rmvb files.. I just need a real player decoder I guess01:05
Johnson_is there any other security chat rooms?01:05
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kyncaniale3hs: proprietary formats suck big time he ..01:06
jesse_no one knows how to put limewire on ubuntu?01:06
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ale3hskyncani, maybe but I just want to watch a movie so I dont really care :)01:06
Johnson_whats the best site for tutorials?01:07
ale3hsjesse_,  download gtk-gnutella from synaptic01:07
_jasonubotu, tell jesse_ about limewire01:07
_jasonJohnson_, tutorials for?01:07
dooglusI've added a line to the end of /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh saying "echo nameserver 192.168.1.1 | resolvconf -a eth0".  Is that reasonable, or is there a 'proper' way to set my DNS server?01:07
zandaa<_< I can't get vlc to play DVDs01:07
Johnson_attacking tutorials?01:07
zandaaanyone help me?01:07
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kenichizandaa: you seem to have a lot of problems ;)01:08
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zandaakenichi, I know <_< I don't really understand any of it...01:08
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qt2Flash works fine in firefox via sudo, but not if i run it as a normal user, anyone have any clue what could be wrong?01:08
zandaakenichi, plus this being my first linux install that works01:08
doogluszandaa: what's the problem?01:08
kenichizandaa: all i can say is that vlc should play dvds by default. just choose the correct drive and play it01:09
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ma5terdphay quick question for someone who knows ubuntu /linux01:09
doogluszandaa: did you install the dvdcss2 thingy?01:09
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zandaadooglus, yes I did01:09
zandaadooglus, I don't know how to let vlc play the DVD I inserted into my drive01:09
ardchoillebbiab01:09
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ma5terdphow do i access my hardrive in ubuntu ??01:09
ma5terdpusing live cd01:09
doogluszandaa: I use this command to play DVDs: xine --auto-play=fq --auto-scan dvd &01:09
ma5terdpanyone?01:10
MiSS_n00bhi can anyone help im having probs with my nvidia drivers, open gl isnt working, and theres a black strip down the left side of the screen, i have tried reinstalling the drivers, any ideas how i can fix this?01:10
zandaadooglus, I'm not using Xine01:10
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jesse_when i go to run limewire01:10
ale3hssomebody plz, I got w32codecs but still cannot play rmvb files, a solution plz01:10
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leather_n_luvhow do i manualy get my modem to work?01:10
kenichima5terdp: you have to mount the proper hard drive01:10
jesse_should i run it in the terminal or just run?01:10
doogluszandaa: ok.  I don't know how to trick vlc into playing dvds01:10
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_jasonqt2, my guess would be a permissions problem, check the permissions for libflashplayer.so01:10
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doogluszandaa: did you install 'libdvdnav4'?01:10
erUSULgraybandit, try sudo modprobe snd-opl3sa201:10
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zandaalibdvdnav4?01:10
jesse_cause when i just click run nothing pops up01:10
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doogluszandaa: it's a dvd navigation package.  I don't know if vlc needs it or not.01:11
doogluszandaa: but it might be worth a go...01:11
ma5terdpCanyone anyone help me get access to my hardrive using live cd>?>01:11
kazhow do I play wmv files in ubuntu?01:11
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zandaadooglus, according to my terminal it's installed01:11
Jxpxwith mplayer u can Kaz01:11
_jasonkaz, you'll need w32codecs01:11
kazapt-get install mplayer?01:11
doogluszandaa: did you try "vlc dvd://" ?01:11
_jasonubotu, tell kaz about mplayer01:11
kenichima5terdp: you have to mount the hard drive first befor you can access it01:11
kazcan I install them with apt?01:11
Jxpxyes01:12
Jxpxmplayer01:12
_jasonubotu, tell kaz about w32codecs01:12
Jxpx;)01:12
qt2_jason, -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 2096844 2005-12-08 17:00 libflashplayer.so01:12
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ma5terdplmao man can anyone see me01:12
ma5terdp?01:12
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Citydogubotu, tell Citydog about mplayer01:12
dooglusma5terdp: I can01:12
ma5terdphow do i mount hd01:12
ma5terdpi tired mnt /dev/hda201:12
zandaadooglus, dvdread demuxer error: DVDRead cannot open source:01:13
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ma5terdptried01:13
ale3hsubotu, tell ale3hs about real player01:13
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_jasonqt2, hrmm, try running firefox without sudo but in safemode and see if it works: firefox -safe-mode01:13
Jxpxubotu, tell jxpx about w32codecs01:13
BlueDevilma5terdp: isn't it already mounted?01:13
ale3hsubotu, tell ale3hs about realplayer01:13
Citydogubuto, tell Citydog about divx01:13
_jasonqt2, never mind that is a dumb idea since it won't load flash, try a new profile01:13
jdkycdockenichi, hi, i just checked and in my xorg.conf i only have resolution 1280x800 but in the gnome condiguration tool 1280x768 appears and i think that is what i have now, any clue?01:13
ma5terdpno here is the situation...01:13
doogluszandaa: "ls -l /dev/dvd" <-- what's it tell you?01:13
ma5terdpim in windows right now01:13
jesse_when i try running runLime.sh nothing pops up01:13
qt2_jason, alraedy tried a new profile, still freezes.01:13
jesse_dows anyone no why01:13
BlueDevilma5terdp: check under /media/01:13
ma5terdpiam using ubuntu live cd01:14
Citydogubotu, tell Citydog about divx01:14
ma5terdpi have 2 hd non are mounted01:14
zandaadooglus, lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 3 2005-12-09 00:12 /dev/dvd -> hdb01:14
kenichima5terdp: mount -t <filesystem> </dev/hdxy> </media/mountpoint>01:14
Citydogubotu, tell Citydog about realplayer01:14
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kenichima5terdp: befor you have to create the "mountpoint" folder01:14
ma5terdpok im kinda slow on this01:14
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: what took you so long?01:14
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kazthanks01:14
doogluszandaa: can you mount the DVD and see the list of .vob files, etc?01:14
zandaamount dvd?01:15
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kenichima5terdp: did you get it?01:15
MillenniumgroupBlueDevil, hi it didn't work+I've run into a few problems in virtual terminal, but I finally managed to do the sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.ok /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:15
leather_n_luvcan anyone help me get a modem to work?01:15
doogluszandaa: "sudo mount /media/dvd" maybe?01:15
zandaadooglus, I know01:15
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zandaadooglus, and I did that01:15
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collinderhey all01:15
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: why didn't it work?01:15
doogluszandaa: and it worked?01:15
Millenniumgroupit gave me an error screen, red screen like hz to much or something01:15
DRAGON_Ultrawhat modem you have01:15
ma5terdpok i need access to my first hardrive second partion what would the code look like>>???01:15
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collinderim haveing trouble with my nvidia drivers01:15
ma5terdpcmd?01:15
marcel_join#<floripa>01:15
MonoNoGoldSaintnight!01:15
collinderive read the wiki01:15
leather_n_luvhttp://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php/product/2609/sort/2/cat/168/page/101:15
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zandaadooglus, totem tried to open the dvd when I mounted01:15
Millenniumgroupand I couldn't use the gui, because the red screen blocked my options lol. so I used recovery mode01:16
BlueDevilMillenniumgroup: then you're stuck @60Hz01:16
leather_n_luvtheat's my modem01:16
Millenniumgroupyup I guess so01:16
MonoNoGoldSainthey, I'm trying to compile subcommnander (svn client) from its source.01:16
MonoNoGoldSaintbut I get this error:01:16
collinderi get this error screen once i restart afterwards01:16
Millenniumgroupwell at least it looks sharper and I can see a lot more :)01:16
leather_n_luv*that's*01:16
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Millenniumgrouptx again BlackDevil :)01:16
MonoNoGoldSaintfound qt version ./configure: line 5930: yes/bin/moc: No such file or directory but I need 3.2 <= version < 4.0.001:16
whyameyeconfused about adding users and groups. I wanted to add user 'radio' to group 'audio'. How would I do this? What ended up happening is that I added user 'radio' to group 'radio.' How do I undo this?01:16
doogluszandaa: I think I'm going to have to duck out of this one, on account of not having a clue how to help you.  sorry!01:16
MonoNoGoldSaintHow do I get qt 3.2?01:16
doogluswhyameye: sudo adduser radio audio01:16
erUSULma5terdp, mount -t <fstype> /dev/hda2 /mnt/<mountpoint>01:16
zandaadooglus, it's ok... don't need to apologise, you tried to help me.. that's what matters to me01:16
collinderdoes anyone know the propper way to install an agp nvidia graphics card it will be the main monitor... it is the main monitor now but it doesnt work01:16
collinderthanks in advance01:17
ma5terdpthat is fstype01:17
MiSS_n00bhi can anyone help im having probs with my nvidia drivers, open gl isnt working, and theres a black strip down the left side of the screen, i have tried reinstalling the drivers, any ideas how i can fix this?01:17
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ma5terdpwhat is fstype & mountpoint?01:17
zandaakenichi, you know how to get vlc to play DVD then?01:17
doogluswhyameye: and "sudo deluser radio radio"01:17
whyameyedooglus, I tried that first, and I got adduser: The user `radio' does not exist.01:17
kenichizandaa: one second01:17
pramzhello everyone :-)01:17
BlueDevilcollinder: are you running X now?01:17
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guest_hello01:17
erUSULwhyameye, use System_Preferences_Users...01:17
doogluswhyameye: does user 'radio' exist?01:17
ma5terdpnope01:17
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guest_wath goin on01:17
pramzfirefox 1.5 is fun :-)01:17
levanderDid mplayer stop working when anybody else upgraded to breezy?01:17
kenichima5terdp: what is the filesystem on your harddrive? is it ntfs or fat32 or ext2/3?01:17
MonoNoGoldSaintso... anyone know where could I get qt 3.2 to compile this app?01:17
ma5terdpim under windows i can ppo3 under01:18
Technobabblepramz, what's different about it?01:18
collinderbluedevil: im on my lap top cause now im installing 5.0401:18
leather_n_luvDRAGON_Ultra: you looking at the link?01:18
whyameyedooglus, I tried the deluser commmand and it is telling me I cannot remove the user from his/her primary group...01:18
BlueDevilcollinder: why 5.04?01:18
ma5terdpthe file system is mac os x intelx8601:18
collinderbluedevil: it wouldnt let me rollback01:18
ma5terdpits ntfs + x86 mac os x01:18
doogluswhyameye: ok.  user radio is in group radio by default.01:18
ma5terdpi need access to the mac os01:18
doogluswhyameye: you don't need to remove it01:18
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ma5terdpnot ntfs01:18
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collinderbledevil: cause the drivers dont seem to be working for 5.1... everyone is showing me these wikis... i follow them and then i get these errors01:18
kenichima5terdp: that must be hfs+ i think01:18
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doogluswhyameye: like user whyameye is in group whyameye by default, too01:19
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ma5terdpyup01:19
levanderWhen people put these wierd repositories in their sources.list, like PLF, how do they make sure it doesn't install packages they don't want?01:19
ma5terdpur exactly right hfs+01:19
BlueDevilMonoNoGoldSaint: sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt-dev01:19
kyncaniwhyameye: erUSUL is right, use the graphical tool : system -> preferences -> user01:19
erUSULma5terdp, filesystemtype ntfs or vfat or ext2 or ext3 or xfs or hpfs ... mountpoint is a directory in your hard disk01:19
kenichima5terdp: but i dont know if ubuntu has the drivers for this file system...01:19
leather_n_luvwhyameye: any user you add will automaticaly make a group of (there-name-here)01:19
ma5terdpit should u would think01:19
kenichierUSUL: you know if ubuntu can mount hfs+01:19
whyameyekyncani, erUSUL, dooglus, leather_n_luv: I just tried the graphical tool and it worked great with no problems. I don't know why sudo adduser radio audio didn't work in the first place but...good to have this solved!01:20
ma5terdpso what would i type mount -t hfs+ /dev/hda2 /mnt/<mountpoint>01:20
BlueDevilgood night people01:20
MonoNoGoldSaintBlueDevil: it says I already have the newest version. :(01:20
zandaagood night bluedevil01:20
whyameyenobody here has experience with Rivendell, do they?01:20
MonoNoGoldSaintBlueDevil: night!01:20
kenichima5terdp: mountpoint is a folder you have to create on your harddrive/virtual harddrive01:20
doogluswhyameye: I don't know either.  did you create the user first, then try to add them to the group?  if you didn't create the user first, that'll be whyt.01:20
MonoNoGoldSaintBlueDevil: All I wanted was the old one (3.2)01:20
erUSULma5terdp, try this sudo mkdir /mnt/mcos && sudo mount -t auto /dev/hda2 /mnt/mcos01:21
leather_n_luvcan someone help me with a modem problem?01:21
MonoNoGoldSaintBlueDevil: I have the compat libraries but they are not helping either.01:21
ma5terdpok can y help me do this first ..01:21
whyameyedooglus: yes I didn't create the user first. So how would I have done that, just so I know?01:21
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erUSULkenichi, no i do not know01:21
ubuntu324324hello01:21
ma5terdphow do i ppoe on utub01:21
kenichizandaa: yes i know how to play a dvd with vlc01:21
ubuntu324324good night01:21
ma5terdpi need 2 log on dsl01:21
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zandaakenichi, I got some further to an error code01:21
ma5terdpunder ubuntu01:21
ma5terdpso i can chat whith u guys while im doing this01:22
BlueDevilMonoNoGoldSaint: do you have qt4-dev installed?01:22
MonoNoGoldSaintBlueDevil: let me see, but I guess so.01:22
kenichima5terdp: u create a folder with "mkdir <foldername>"01:22
doogluswhyameye: just "sudo adduser radio"01:22
zandaakenichi, where do I go for large pastes?01:22
doogluswhyameye: or use the gui, of course...01:22
ma5terdphow do i pppoe under ubuntu?01:22
kenichizandaa: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/01:22
whyameyedooglus: so I should have typed "sudo adduser radio" then typed "sudo adduser radio audio"?01:23
ma5terdpcuzz im under windows right now i wanna get on and chat with u a bit while im trying 2 do this01:23
erUSULma5terdp, pppoeconf01:23
ma5terdpunder ubuntu01:23
zandaakenichi, hehe *.nl is my national domainsuffix01:23
ma5terdpis that under apps01:23
leather_n_luvma5terdp: what kind of os are you going through?01:23
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MonoNoGoldSaintBlueDevil: I do.01:23
ma5terdpim in windows now iam bout 2 use live cd ubuntu01:23
kenichizandaa: so where are you from? :)01:23
erUSULma5terdp, run pppoeconf01:23
MonoNoGoldSaintBlueDevil: I have to get rid of it?01:23
bimberi!pppoe01:23
ubotuwell, pppoe is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE01:23
ma5terdpundert ubuntu01:23
erUSULma5terdp, in a terminal01:23
kenichizandaa: i know from nl, but from which city?01:23
ma5terdpok brb01:23
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ma5terdprestarting pc in ubuntu01:24
zandaakenichi, IJmuiden (you in NL too??)01:24
collindercan anyone help me with my nvidia driver problem???01:24
doogluswhyameye: that's about the size of it, yes.01:24
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zandaakenichi, http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/553201:24
doogluswhyameye: try it now with "radio2" instead of "radio" for practice :)01:24
kenichizandaa: no, im in germany/osnabrck. its near nl. about an hour away01:24
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zandaakenichi, ah I see01:24
leather_n_luvma5terdp: if you are networking your pc with the live cd to a pc that is logged on, just select to auto config network01:24
BlueDevilMonoNoGoldSaint: i think so01:25
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MonoNoGoldSaintBlueDevil: I'm removing it, let's see.01:25
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whyameyedooglus: thanks I just tried with radio2 and it worked great! Thanks!01:25
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kyncanignite erUSUL01:25
lightbrightMonoNoGoldSaint: hello01:26
lightbrightwhyameye: cool01:26
MonoNoGoldSaintlightbright: hello01:26
leather_n_luvhas anyone here overcome a modem problem? i need help...01:26
zandaakenichi, it seems encrypted dvd support is missing, but I just installed...01:26
leather_n_luvi have a 82801AA 810 Chipset AC'97 PCI Modem (vendor:8086 device:2416)01:26
lightbrightleather_n_luv: i use a modem01:26
collinderanyone looking at a monitor that uses an nvidia video card???? and can you explain to me how to do it.... i keep getting these errors01:26
doogluswhyameye: now you can "man deluser" to find out how to get rid of 'radio2' and his home directory in a single command...01:27
doogluswhyameye: "sudo deluser radio2" will leave his home directory by default01:27
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leather_n_luvlinux won't recognize a modem that linuxquestions.org has in HCL as compatible01:27
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lightbrightleather_n_luv: have you ran pppconfig yet?01:27
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whyameyedooglus: oops, I already did "sudo deluser radio2." I can just delete the home directory manually?01:27
doogluswhyameye: sure01:27
leather_n_luvlightbright: in console right?01:28
whyameyedooglus: done! Thanks!01:28
kenichizandaa: what encrypted dvd?01:28
doogluswhyameye: "deluser" has an option to make a backup on the home dir before deleting it too01:28
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doogluskenichi: I guess he's talking about dvdcss201:28
zandaakenichi, I don't know01:28
zandaadooglus, dvdcss2 huh?01:28
lightbrightleather_n_luv: yes  sudo pppconfig01:28
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__Kazhmmm I installed "The Codecs" but I still can't play this wmv01:29
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__Kazdo I have to do anything else to let it know "The Codecs" exist now?01:29
leather_n_luvlightbright: yup, didn't work...01:29
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lightbrightleather_n_luv: how do you know?  did you type pon?01:29
lightbrightleather_n_luv: did you ADD USER in pppconfig?01:30
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lightbrightleather_n_luv: do you know how to set up pppconfig?01:30
_jason__Kaz, what's "it"?01:30
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leather_n_luvlightbright: i read the docs...01:30
__Kaza .wmv file01:30
dooglus__zandaa: do you have a package called libdvdcss2 installed?01:30
lightbrightleather_n_luv: did you set up pppconfig?01:31
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kenichizandaa: but you can play a dvd if you just enter "/media/cdrom/" (or whatever your dvd drive is) as "device name" in the "open disc" menu01:31
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_jason__Kaz, what are you playing it with?01:31
leather_n_luvlightbright: brb...01:31
lightbrightleather_n_luv: did you add your details, and modem port etc?01:31
mustard5__Kaz, I think he means what player are you trying to watch it in01:31
__Kazoh sorry... totem01:31
zandaadooglus, I can't install it01:31
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lightbrightleather_n_luv: as you wish :)01:31
dooglus__zandaa: why not?01:31
__Kaz(the ubuntu default player)01:31
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zandaadooglus, it says it's not available on the repositories01:31
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_jason__Kaz, if you want to use totem to play wmv's, you should install the xine backend for it... totem-xine is the package I believe01:31
lightbrightanyone know how to edit a VOB?  or convert it to AVI?01:31
__Kazok thanks... I'll try that01:32
dooglus__zandaa: it isn't.  but if you install libdvdread3 and then read /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/README.Debian you'll find how to install it01:32
BrainDamagehello, i need little help... :))) i have debian 3.1. i have changed mount points of my cdrom device and dvdrom device, and now, synaptic doesn't recognize that devices. Is there any hope for me ??? :)))01:32
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__Kaztell __kaz about totem-xine :)01:32
BrainDamagedebian 3.1 = ubuntu 5.0401:32
jesse_i downloaded a bin file of the new java and idk how to get it to install01:32
leather_n_luvlightbright: ok, i'm at the modem detect method screen...01:32
jesse_can someone help me01:32
korhalfjesse_, whyd you do that?01:32
korhalfjesse_, sudo apt-get install jre2.401:32
lightbrightleather_n_luv: chose DONT detect01:33
_jasonubotu, tell __Kaz about totem-xine01:33
jesse_cause limewire said my java bad01:33
mustard5BrainDamage, I would think it would be easy enough to change them back01:33
leather_n_luvlightbright: k01:33
jesse_i didnt see 2.4 on it01:33
korhalfjre1.4 sorry01:33
lightbrightleather_n_luv: what port is it on?01:33
__Kazubuntu is like THE distro now isn't it?01:33
BrainDamagemustard5, how?01:33
korhalfj2re1.4 - Blackdown Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition01:33
whyameyethere's a jack-init package for Debian so JACK starts on startup. What is equivalent for ubuntu?01:33
__Kaz#1?01:33
Kyralubotu tell jesse_ about SunJava01:33
mustard5BrainDamage, you used the pastebin before?01:33
lightbrightleather_n_luv: message me01:33
jesse_whats it called in synaptic?01:33
korhalfj2re1.401:33
BrainDamagemustard5, no!01:33
leather_n_luvlightbright: message?01:33
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leather_n_luvpm?01:34
Kyraljesse_: read what ubotu told you01:34
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mustard5ubotu: tell BrainDamage about pastebing01:34
gachhello01:34
jesse_k01:34
lightbrightleather_n_luv: message means send a message01:34
mustard5ubotu: tell BrainDamage about pastebin01:34
zandaadooglus, it appears I couldn't install cuz I was missing somethings01:34
gachi have a  proble with 64 bits ubuntu01:34
__Kazseems to have very good support, frquent updates, looks really nice & most importantly -- everything just seems to "work"01:34
gachit woint get past starting hotplug01:34
collinderok im about to have a fresh install of ubuntu 5.1 on my desktop.... now will someone explain why nvidia drivers are such a bitch01:34
gachand then it hangs01:34
raphink__Kaz: indee01:34
__Kaz(except this WMV... but I'm sure it will be fixed in a sec here)01:34
dooglus__zandaa: you should be able to install libdvdread3, right?01:34
raphinkindeed01:34
zandaadooglus, it already is01:34
Kyralcollinder: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable01:34
mustard5BrainDamage, copy and paste the contents of your /etc/fstab file in the pastebin and then paste the URL in here01:34
Kyralthen restart X01:34
dooglus__ok, and you ran the script mentioned in the README?01:34
__Kazwoohoo.  wmv is playing :] 01:35
jesse_do i downlaod all those things?01:35
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collinderkyrall: i do that then i restart hittin ctr alt back and then when it restarts i get a blue error screen01:35
__Kazthanks all01:35
raphink__Kaz: it won't be fixed in main. closed-source formats are not included in the main part of the distro, willingly01:35
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Kyralcollinder: what does it say?01:35
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gachhey01:35
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__Kazright, I understand01:35
gachi reallyu need this help01:35
gachanybody knows why it hans?01:35
__Kazbut if you know how to use the available help channels (ie forums, irc, wiki) then the solution is minutes away.01:35
raphinkmost of the time yes __Kaz01:36
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collinderkyral: xwindow system version 6.8.2 (ubuntu 6.8.2-77 20051010174523 root@vernadsky.bu.ldd)01:36
__KazI've been putting ubuntu on family members boxes lately... since they can't seem to stop opening file attachments01:36
zandaadooglus, it still isn't working <_<01:36
raphinkgach: do you have a trace to past in a pastebin?01:36
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__Kazthis is one of them actually :] 01:36
ma5terdpok im back01:36
ma5terdpunder Ubuntu01:36
collinderkyrall: release date blah blah blah x protocol blah blah blah build, current etc01:36
dooglus__zandaa: I'll need a little more info...  "not working" doesn't help me to help you...01:36
ma5terdpsoo now what do i do to mount my hda01:36
__Kazok ... thanks all01:36
dooglus__zandaa: back in 10 minutes...01:36
Kyralcollinder: near the end it will tell you the error01:37
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ma5terdpi have terminal open01:37
Citydog!freeformat01:37
ubotuCitydog: Are you on ritalin?01:37
ma5terdpi need access to first hd second partition and its hfs+01:37
Citydogno01:37
collinderkyral01:37
raphinklol01:37
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KyralCitydog: thats just ubotu's response if you asked for something it has no clue about01:38
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Kyralcollinder: yes?01:38
jesse_kyral: Do i download all those things01:38
raphinkma5terdp: macintosh formats are not installed by default I believe, you have to install them01:38
kenichima5terdp: have you created your destination folder?01:38
Kyraljesse_: just follow the instructions01:38
jesse_ok01:38
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collinderkyral: im lookin now all i see the last line is markers probed from config file01:38
ma5terdpno how do i do that01:38
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Aron_FigaroHey guys - I'm still stuck with a Samba sharing problem, my Windows box won't see it. Anybody? :)01:39
Kyralcollinder: look for lines that have either "EE" or "!!" in them01:39
Kyralthat should be the error01:39
ma5terdpi know i have a mac partition on my hd i need access to replace corrupt mach_kernel01:39
raphinkma5terdp: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php%3Fp=6878&mode=linear01:39
lightbrightleather_n_luv: yes that would be best till you learn basics of computers01:39
kenichima5terdp: go with "cd" to "/media/01:39
collinderkyral01:39
ma5terdpok im there01:39
ma5terdpnow what01:39
collinder:kyral: there are no lines with that01:39
ma5terdpmkdir whateveriwant01:39
ma5terdp?01:40
raphinkma5terdp: my ISP is being nuts, I'm not on the page yet. take the time to read it ;)01:40
kenichiyes01:40
Kyralcollinder: then look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log01:40
Kyralthe error is SOMEWHERE01:40
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ma5terdppage not found01:40
kenichima5terdp: do you have synaptic package manager and can install software?01:40
Aron_Figaro*juggles flaming Windows CDs until somebody helps him with his SMB problem*01:40
collinderkyral: im reinsalling ubuntu now01:40
collinderkyral: im on my lap tom01:40
collinderlaptop01:41
ma5terdpi dont know i am cd under media01:41
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ma5terdpin terminal01:41
raphinkma5terdp: create a folder to mount your hard drive to01:41
Kyralcollinder: very well lol. I personally find it a challenge (one of the GOOD ones) to rescue my system without reinstalling01:41
raphinks/hard drive/partition/01:41
zandaawhere can I get a C Compiler?01:41
raphinkKyral: :)01:41
raphinkzandaa: install build-essential01:42
ma5terdpso do a "mkdir /name'" ?01:42
Kyralzandaa: sudo apt-get install build-essential01:42
collinderkyral: its almost done... i dont get how the monitor is working now and then even when ubuntu is starting and then it switches over to the other monitor01:42
mustard5ma5terdp, skip the slash since you are in /media already01:42
raphinkma5terdp: for example : sudo mkdir /media/mac01:42
kenichima5terdp: "mkdir foldername"01:42
Kyralcollinder: Wait "other monitor"?01:42
zandaakyral: thanks, that's what I needed to know (one step away from my DVD working)01:43
ma5terdpok i did a sudio mkdir mac01:43
ma5terdpsudo01:43
ma5terdpi ment01:43
raphinkok01:43
collinderkyral: yeah the agp is main the one im havin the problem with and my voodoo 3 (old school right there) is my secondary monitor01:43
brand0ncan someone help me out? i dont know where to put the gtkrc file to get gtk theme to work?01:43
collinderkyral: hopefully lol01:43
raphinkma5terdp: now let's try to mount it first01:43
ma5terdpkk01:43
Kyralcollinder: Try disconnecting the second monitor...01:43
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raphinkma5terdp: sudo mount /dev/$yourdrive -t hfsplus /media/mac01:43
kenichima5terdp: try now "sudo mount -t hfs+ /dev/hda2 /media/mac"01:43
raphinkma5terdp: replacing $yourdrive with the right value ;)01:43
brand0nanyone?01:43
collinderkyral: that would be the one that works? should i also disconnec tt eh pci card?01:44
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Kyralcollinder: Multiple monitors is something I know nothing about lol. Lets see if the primary one works01:44
raphinkkenichi: I belive it's hfsplus01:44
ma5terdpok i did that onw what01:44
kenichiraphink: yeah. seems so ;)01:44
collinderkyral: but should i disconnect the card so theres no way it can detect it01:44
ma5terdpi see a drive on my deskto[01:44
Kyralcollinder: sure if you want01:44
ma5terdplol01:44
kenichiraphink: i just saw it here01:44
levanderHas anybody installed the mplayer codecs from PLF?01:45
MonoNoGoldSaintthanks, see ya01:45
raphinkma5terdp: now your parition should be mounted on /media/mac01:45
ma5terdpomg u guys rockkkkkkkkkk let me check if i have accesss01:45
raphinkkenichi: you're on a mac ? ;)01:45
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raphinkma5terdp: now you probably want this partition automatically mounted on boot ...01:45
kenichiraphink: nope. ubuntu on x8601:45
zandaakenichi, I finally get all the libraries working <_< and now vcl doesn't cooperate01:45
collinderkyral: ok the install has like 3 percent left01:45
raphinkkenichi: same here, k701:46
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Kyralcollinder: okay01:46
kenichizandaa: what is this css2 for?01:46
levanderHas anybody got mplayer working with w32codecs under breezy?01:46
kenichiraphink: old k6 here :(01:46
raphinkkenichi: dvds if I'm not wrong01:46
zandaakenichi: it's a library which can get around DVD security if I'm correct01:46
ma5terdpok how do i rename a file on that drive01:46
jesse_kyral: i can find any instructions01:46
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Kyraljesse_: did you read the WikiPage01:47
_jasonlevander, plenty of people I'm sure, are you having difficulties?01:47
mustard5levander, I would think most people would have01:47
raphinkma5terdp: the way you rename on other drives I guess ;)01:47
kenichizandaa: i never had problems with vlc playing anything01:47
ma5terdpi need 2 rename mach_kernel copy to just mach_kernel01:47
zandaakenichi, well I have... the DVD I got is a copied one I got from a friend01:47
raphinkma5terdp: do you need to mount this partition on every boot?01:47
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raphinkma5terdp: use mv01:47
Kyrallevander: My install is so old that I prolly have w32codecs from back when they were on Backports lol01:47
raphinkma5terdp: mv mach_kernel\ copy mach_kernel01:47
levander_jason: yeah, i'm using the w32codecs package from backports hoary still, do I have to upgrade that package to get it to work?01:47
ma5terdpno just now im just trying 2 replace my mach_kernel with the backup01:48
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_jasonlevander, nope01:48
Kyralnope01:48
collinderkyral: alright i restarted i see my intel logo, ubuntu logo, everything is loading on the monitor01:48
jesse_there wasnt one01:48
Kyralcollinder: then at least it isn't the monitor01:48
kenichizandaa: even with those copied ones i came around i never had problems01:48
xiaogilwhen will we have firefox 1.5 in ubuntu01:48
Kyralubotu tell jesse_ about SunJava01:48
collinderkyral: it couldnt have been i was runnin windows yesterday01:48
levanderI'm trying to dump audio I've downloaded into a file I specify, but it keeps going into audiodump.wav in the current directory01:48
collinderkyral: now all i see is an underscore on the window01:49
ma5terdpso how do i rename it again01:49
Kyraljesse_: read what Ubotu said01:49
mustard5ma5terdp, use  a mv something like this  mv oldfilename newfilename01:49
Kyralownload the pack and install01:49
collinderkyral: i heard the login sound and i dont see it01:49
ma5terdpgotcha01:49
ma5terdpbrb\01:49
kenichima5terdp: you can rename a file with "mv oldfilename newfilename"01:49
zandaakenichi, weird...01:49
levanderthey've changed some of the command line options for dumping audio to wav in the new mplayer in breezy, and i haven't figured them out yet01:49
raphinkma5terdp: I told you before01:49
Kyralcollinder: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:49
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Canoeingkiddxiaogil - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9659501:49
raphinkma5terdp: you'll have to use a \ in the first file name for the space01:49
ma5terdppermisiion denided01:49
kenichizandaa: you name it01:49
mustard5ma5terdp, use sudo01:50
collinderkyral: ok im loggin in now01:50
kenichima5terdp: "sudo mv old new"01:50
raphinkma5terdp: sudo mv mach_kernel\ copy mach_kernel01:50
zandaakenichi, I'll call it a day (1:50 am, got an appointment at school tomorrow)01:50
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collinderkyral: i didnt install the packets on this install yet should i do that before i do this in terminal?01:50
zandaadooglus, thanks for all your help perhaps I'll see you later01:50
Kyralcollinder: it doesn't matter01:50
rockzwhere i find my cdr driver /dev/ ... ?01:50
ma5terdpthank u cheif ur da shitttttt01:51
Kyralright now we want X :D01:51
Kyralrockz: Driver?01:51
brand0ncan someone help me out? id like to use gtk instead of gtk2 and fluxbox instead of metacity, but dont know hot to go about changing that01:51
Kyral!fluxbox01:51
ubotufluxbox is, like, forked off blackbox and is found at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net or the new blackbox, with antialias, better menu, etc.01:51
Kyral...remind me to change that01:51
Kyralbrand0n: gimme a sec01:51
brand0nKyral, thanks01:51
collinderkyral: alright i did it01:51
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Kyralcollinder: X is up?01:52
kenichima5terdp: so youve got osx running on your x86?01:52
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init_budcan anyone help me install pure-ftpd?01:52
collinderkyral: yes its going to want to install the voodo hardware not the nvidia hardware01:52
kenichima5terdp: what processor u have?01:52
raphinkkenichi: I bet he's on ubuntu on ppc rather ;)01:52
raphinkit's kind of easier01:52
raphink;)01:52
Kyralbrand0n: read this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox01:52
ma5terdpyah01:52
rockzdrive01:52
ma5terdpp401:52
brand0nKyral, thanks :)01:53
ma5terdppentium 401:53
kenichiraphink: but hten he wouldnt have xp installed01:53
collinderkyral: x is up01:53
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mustard5init_bud, how are you trying to install it?01:53
Kyralcollinder: I don't know if Voodoo is supported...01:53
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KyralI mean what do you want to do01:53
ma5terdpi have xp on first partition and x86 mac on second01:53
kenichima5terdp: hows it working01:53
raphinko_O01:53
ma5terdpawssssssssssommmmmmmmmme01:53
Kyralrun multiple monitors?01:53
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collinderkyral:thats the monitor that is working01:53
mustard5init_bud, its availabe through synaptic package manager ..you could install that way01:53
ma5terdpi just screweed up on the 4.3 updated with wrong kernel hence my problem01:53
init_budmustard5, well, i looked for a gui install or something easy. but i ended up just downloading the manual install and its telling me that i dont have a C compiler.01:53
raphinkwhere did you get x86 mac ma5terdp  ?01:53
logical_markCould someone help me out. My sound is very crackly and I have a common chipset: Realtek AC9701:53
ma5terdpbittorent01:53
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raphinkma5terdp: LOL01:53
ma5terdplook up intel x8601:53
kenichima5terdp: why not buying a real mac?01:53
ma5terdpworks way better01:54
Kyralraphink: its highly illegal01:54
raphinkok01:54
rockzwhere i find my cdr drive /dev/ ... ?01:54
ma5terdpunder intel proccessor01:54
Kyralma5terdp: please don't discuss this01:54
mustard5init_bud, search for it in synaptic package manager01:54
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ma5terdpsorry01:54
raphinkKyral: yes I know that, thats' what I ask01:54
init_budmustard5, where is that? the synaptic package manager01:54
Kyralrockz: it will be under /media/cdrom/01:54
init_budmustard5, you mean apt ?01:54
ma5terdpsorry kyral01:54
mustard5init_bud, apt if you like yes01:54
Kyralrockz: or rather it WILL be /media/cdrom/01:54
rockzhmm i will try this01:54
PokerFacePenguinanyone have any idea why system button >> storage media doesn't list what is in my /media directory?  if i go to a konsole...there is stuff in there.01:54
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init_budmustard5, when i do "apt-cache search pure" and "ftp" etc... it dosent show up as a result!01:54
collinderkyral: should i select nv, is that for nvidia?01:54
mustard5init_bud, sugo apt-get install pure-ftpd01:55
logical_markCan anyone help me with making my sound not crackle?01:55
Kyralcollinder: yes, until you get the NVidia GLX01:55
BozeHello all, could I ask a question here about removing items from my drop-down menu?01:55
Kyralcollinder: Are you trying to run multiple monitors01:55
collinderkyral: ok so ill update and get all the packets and then do this01:55
kenichiwell, im going to bed now. GOOD NIGHT ALL01:55
franky123logical_mark: that happened to me, make sure the system volume, rhythmbox volume, and totem volume and anything else are not set to max01:55
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collinderkyral yes01:55
mustard5init_bud, if it says its not there then you need to add extra repositories..as its in the universe repository01:55
ma5terdpok wish me luck everyone im restarting ill check back in a sec01:55
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KyralBoze: Try using the Menu-Edtor01:55
ma5terdpthanks again everyone01:55
init_budmustard5, right....01:55
kenichima5terdp: bye01:55
init_budmustard5, and how do i do that? :)01:55
ma5terdplater kenichi01:56
Kyralcollinder: I can get your Hardware Accel working, but I know nothing about multiple monitors01:56
ma5terdplater kyral01:56
mustard5ubotu: tell init_bud about repos01:56
ma5terdpbrb01:56
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mustard5init_bud, check PM ubotu01:56
collinderok01:56
Bozerhanks Kyral, didnt even see it till you pointed it out.01:56
logical_markfranky123: The system volume is not turned all the way up. Nor anything else01:56
collinderkyral: i would rather have the nvidia monitor working... so i can try to play some half life01:56
phiqtionis there a newer version for the firefox that ubuntu ships?01:56
mustard5init_bud, what version of ubuntu are you using?01:57
franky123logical_mark: try killing esd and using alsa01:57
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logical_markfranky123: how do I do that? I am new to linux01:58
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Obersudo -s01:58
Obersdo: unable to lookup mateis via gethostbyname()01:58
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Kyralcollinder: so is X working now?01:58
Oberreal piece of works guys....01:58
pigosalve01:58
phiqtionis there a newer version for the firefox that ubuntu ships?01:58
mustard5Ober, your /etc/hosts file is probably incomplete01:58
Oberor I have no networking01:59
BozeAre there any ways to play MP3 and MPG on ubuntu?01:59
collinderkyral: x was working... but it was running on the voodoo card not the nvidia card01:59
Kyralphiqtion: I think Breezy uses FF 1 right now. FF 1.5 should be coming soon01:59
Oberimagine a laptop away from a network01:59
Obergod what a piece of shit.01:59
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franky123logical_mark: there are two ways, first way is to go to the gnome menu->system->preferences->mutimedia systems selector and just play around with the settings. second way is to go to terminal and type "killall esd"01:59
Kyralcollinder: What is connected now?01:59
Xenguygood riddance Ober :P01:59
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collinderkyral: both monitors are connected now...01:59
KyralBoze: Beep Media Player has MP3 out of the box01:59
|ed|anyone around?01:59
|ed|i have a question01:59
Kyralcollinder: I mean what card is it runnnig off of02:00
collinderkyral voodoo302:00
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|ed|ive installed edubuntu on my sons ibook how do i enable autologin?02:00
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Kyralubotu tell Boze about restrictedformats02:00
Kyral|ed|: I don't think you can...02:00
|ed|and the thing freezes when you close the LCD02:00
Kyralits pretty insecure02:00
Kyralto autologin02:00
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|ed|its ed ubuntu02:01
robotgeek|ed|: i'm not sure what edubuntu uses, but if it's gdm you can set it up using gdmsetup02:01
|ed|its for my son02:01
collinderkyral: i am now downloading the nvidia packages02:01
Kyral|ed|: I know02:01
mustard5Kyral, I know the option exists in breezy..but I have no clue about edubuntu02:01
|ed|gdm?02:01
Kyral|ed|: Autologin is insecure for any Linux02:01
|ed|i know that but its for a kid02:01
Kyralmustard5: edubuntu is just like Kubuntu and Ubuntu02:01
Kyral|ed|: sorry lol my old Linux habits are kicking in02:01
BozeSmeg wont let me delete items, just hide them02:01
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init_budmustard5, sweet. i just checked them all...02:01
robotgeek|ed|: sudo gdmsetup02:02
init_budmustard5, thanks for the tip, and the info02:02
KyralBoze: Did you read the link ubotu sent you?02:02
Kyralabout MPG?02:02
Kyral|ed|: it should be in GDM Setup02:02
mustard5init_bud, np02:02
Bozegoing now, thanks02:02
Kyral|ed|: but I would give him an account that doesn't have Sudo access02:02
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|ed|he would need the su password no?02:03
Kyral|ed|: did you enable root?02:03
mustard5init_bud, were you able to install it ?02:03
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|ed|yeah theres a root account02:03
Kyral|ed|: then nevermind lol02:03
collinderok the new york ranger game is starting now... ima go watch it and stop thinkin about ubuntu for a couple of minutes.... kyral thanks for your help02:03
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Kyral|ed|: I didn't know Edubuntu shipped with Root enabled02:04
BozeOne last thing, if I may...02:04
BozeMy mouse wheel doesnt scroll up, it opens a menu. Can I make it scroll up?02:04
KyralBoze: you mean when you "roll" the wheel it opens a menu?02:05
BozeYes02:05
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Bozefor the app it is in02:05
init_budmustard5, ok. one mre question.02:05
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KyralBoze: Hmm, its somewhere in your X Config02:05
mustard5init_bud, ask as many as you like02:05
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|ed|i had kubuntu installed first02:05
Bozexorg.cfg?02:05
Kyral|ed|: ahh02:05
init_budmustard5, now thate i've installed it via apt-get install. where does it put the icon? or how do i make a shortcut to run it?02:06
KyralBoze: /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:06
_SvaMpen_is it recommended running ubuntu on a 600mhz crusoe 128 MB ram02:06
mustard5init_bud, you on breezy?02:06
_SvaMpen_?02:06
init_budmustard5, .... what?02:06
Kyral_SvaMpen_: you'd need to go low resource02:06
logical_markfranky123: I went into sound preferences and it said my default sound card was via 8237, but that is my SATA Raid, my sound is Realtek AC97. What do I do?02:06
Bozeok, thanks. I will play with all these tips. You've been a most generous help Kyral.02:06
mustard5init_bud, type cat /etc/issue in terminal and tell me what you get02:06
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kenichiBYE BYE ALL02:06
KyralBoze: Its what I do :D02:06
_SvaMpen_Kyral how do i go low resource02:06
|ed|i built this system originaly to play with ubuntu ibook02:06
_SvaMpen_i alredy installed ubuntu02:06
init_budPermission Denied02:07
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_SvaMpen_and its a litle slow02:07
mustard5init_bud, use sudo cat /etc/issue then02:07
Kyral_SvaMpen_: install Fluxbox02:07
Kyralfor one02:07
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Kyralit won't have as many features as GNOME02:07
_SvaMpen_oki openbox??02:07
Kyralbut it will be faster02:07
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init_budUbuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" \n \l02:07
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init_budmustard5, Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" \n \l02:07
mustard5init_bud, ok your on breezy02:07
Kyral_SvaMpen_: If you know how to work openbox then go ahead :D02:07
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mustard5init_bud, breezy has a menu editor in the Applications>>System tools02:08
_SvaMpen_Kyral i only want to surf the web02:08
Kyral_SvaMpen_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox02:08
_SvaMpen_and check my mail02:08
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logical_markSomeone help me out on this issue please... I went into sound preferences and it said my default sound card was via 8237, but that is my SATA Raid, my sound is Realtek AC97. What do I do?02:08
_SvaMpen_and compile java appz02:08
mustard5init_bud, alternatively you can hit alt+f2 and type in pure-ftpd02:08
KyralJava...ick lol02:08
Ep|phanyis there any other web browsers other then firefox like opera?02:08
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KyralEp|phany: Epiphany :D02:08
_SvaMpen_Kyral school project02:08
_SvaMpen_:D02:08
jordi_hola!02:08
Ep|phanyreally?02:08
Kyralubotu tell _SvaMpen_ about SunJava02:09
MarcNEp|phany: yeah, opera is available on linux.  also see konqueror02:09
mustard5init_bud, if you look at how the menu editor works you should be able to see how to create a new entry for pure-ftpd...although there may be an entry already02:09
Nikyohola, como esta02:09
_SvaMpen_Kyral i have the new update available up and it wount close??02:09
mustard5init_bud, some apps intalls menu entries and some don't02:09
jordi_acabo de instalar ubuntu y no se cual es la clave por defecto02:09
jordi_del root02:09
Ep|phanyhow can i get opera?02:09
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Kyral!opera02:09
ubotuOpera isn't in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and get then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser02:09
Ep|phanyits not in synaptic02:09
_jason!es02:09
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.02:09
KyralEp|phany: sudo apt-get install epiphany-browser02:09
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Razor-XKyral: don't do that02:10
Ep|phanythanks ill try opera first i heard its really good02:10
Nikyojordi sudo02:10
_jason!info epiphany-browser02:10
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KyralRazor-X: don't do what?02:10
ubotuepiphany-browser: (Intuitive GNOME web browser), section gnome, is optional. Version: 1.8.2-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1989 kB, Installed size: 9656 kB02:10
Razor-XKyral: don't tell someone to get epiphany02:10
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Razor-Xhe asked for Opera, give him Opera, 's all :)02:10
_SvaMpen_how do i get ridde of the "new update available" screen02:10
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KyralRazor-X: Why not?!02:10
that_weaselanyone care to explain the network setup to me in Ubuntu.....I have both my wlan and eth setup....every time I start my laptop I have to disable one or the other...to get either working....02:10
_SvaMpen_it won't shut donw02:10
_SvaMpen_down02:10
Ep|phanywhich is better?02:10
Razor-XKyral: because we aren't here to advertise, but to help, unless you overtly say ``I suggest''02:10
KyralEp|phany: like all things in Linux its a matter of opinion02:10
Razor-XEp|phany: try it out for yourself, that's the only way you'll know02:11
init_budmustard5, what command should i put? "pure-ftpd" dosent run anything02:11
Ep|phanyk02:11
Ep|phanyi cant stand firefox02:11
KyralRazor-X: I only told him because it was easier to get Epiphany lol02:11
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Razor-Xhurrah! we break from the Mozilla hiatus!02:11
jordi_Nikyo sudo no funciona02:11
Razor-XKyral: oh! my bad :)02:11
mustard5init_bud, try typing in the first few letters in terminal and then hit TAB key twice...see what commands are available02:11
Kyral_SvaMpen_: its frozen?02:11
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_SvaMpen_how much memory does fluxbox use?02:11
Razor-XEp|phany: you'll be surprised to find out that there are quite a few quality browsers out of the domain of Firefox02:12
_SvaMpen_Kyral yeas02:12
Kyral_SvaMpen_: a lot less than GNOME + Metacity02:12
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logical_markmustard5: Why would it be that the static in my speakers that I am having trouble with goes away completely when I kill gnome-panel?02:12
mustard5init_bud, I don't have it installed so its hard to tell02:12
Ep|phanywhats the command to insall a .deb is it sudo dpk -i ?02:12
_jason!deb02:12
ubotuI guess deb is To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb02:12
Razor-XEp|phany: ``sudo dpkg -i''02:12
init_budmustard5, "ftp" produced likea million results.02:12
jordi_sorry what's the default password of root's user??02:12
Ep|phanyk02:12
_SvaMpen_Kyral how do i check memory status in terminal?02:12
init_budmustard5, i'll look for the help file on the net02:12
jonmastersdpkg not dpk02:12
Razor-Xjordi_: your default user password02:12
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mustard5init_bud, type 'pure' then hit TAB twice02:12
MarcN_SvaMpen_: free02:12
Kyral_SvaMpen_: Restart X with CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE02:13
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mustard5logical_mark, I'm thinking its because you volume control is an applet in gnome-panel...thats my guess :)02:13
_SvaMpen_can any1 explain what X is?02:13
Kyral_SvaMpen_: it would take a bit02:13
Razor-X_SvaMpen_: X Windows is the GUI implementation on Linux02:13
Kyral_SvaMpen_: but I have a nifty thread expplaining it :D02:13
Razor-X_SvaMpen_: or at least, the dominant one02:13
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Kyralhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8727602:14
_SvaMpen_so is GNome an X??02:14
Ep|phanywhen i try to install opera in terminal it says error about not having xlib6g  and xlibs02:14
Razor-X_SvaMpen_: you have different methods of implementing the protocol (different X Servers, like xvesa and X.Org)02:14
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Kyral_SvaMpen_: check out the link I pasted02:14
Razor-X_SvaMpen_: it's a Window Manager02:14
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Kyral_SvaMpen_: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87276 <--This will explain02:14
logical_markmustard5: What do you use for volume control?02:14
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_SvaMpen_oki i know u never belev how i installd ubuntu on my vaio02:14
_SvaMpen_:D02:14
KyralEp|phany: use Apt to install them02:14
newbieshi guys02:14
Razor-X_SvaMpen_: X itself is simply the video modes and the underlying framework02:14
Nikyojordi: Si usted desea utilizar la cuenta de la raz en una manera ms tradicional de UNIX, usted puede fijar la contrasea de la raz mecanografiando la raz del passwd del sudo. Esto permitir que usted utilice su o la conexin como raz en la consola.02:15
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newbiesanyones here knows what an alternative to dreamweaver?02:15
mustard5logical_mark, the Volume Applet 2.12.102:15
Razor-Xnewbies: nvu02:15
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_SvaMpen_i know i had some problems with the xorg02:15
newbiesRazor-X, wer can i dowload it?02:15
_SvaMpen_because my screen is 10"02:15
Kyral!info nvu02:15
Razor-Xnewbies: it should be available in the repos, if not, google is your friend :)02:15
newbiesRazor-X, is it for free>02:15
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ubotunvu: (Complete Web Authoring System), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1.0-0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 8349 kB, Installed size: 26468 kB02:15
_SvaMpen_resoulution 1024*48002:15
newbiesRazor-X, oks tenks02:16
Razor-Xnewbies: on Linux, most *everything* is free as in beer, and a slight bit less is free as in speech02:16
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v00d00Q: when Ubuntu Live seems to finally get into the desktop, my screen is all jumbled, like the driver is wrong or something.. (sorry such a noob to linux)02:16
KyralRazor-X: The GPL is amazing no?02:16
Razor-XKyral: astounding02:16
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Razor-Xthe GPL is the future of software capitalism, IMO02:17
_SvaMpen_Kyral when i install fluxbox do i have to change X?02:17
Kyral_SvaMpen_: nope02:17
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_SvaMpen_oki nice02:17
Razor-X_SvaMpen_: WMs do not interfere with X02:17
KyralRazor-X: Not capitalism02:17
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ernestoCan I see with Ubuntu a partition of Windows (I think it is ntfs)?02:17
_SvaMpen_sounds good02:17
Kyralernesto: Yes you can read NTFS02:17
Razor-XKyral: I think of it as an extension to current capitalism, the trend of ``get it all, share nothing''02:17
Kyralernesto: Writing is more sketchy02:17
mustard5v00d00, I'm not sure how you would go about fixing display issues on a LiveCD02:18
ernestoKyral: what should I do?02:18
KyralRazor-X: The GPL is about "Get It All, Share It all"02:18
mustard5v00d00, I know how to deal with some problems on regular installs...what card are you using?02:18
Razor-XKyral: I meant capitalism right now is about ``Get it all, share nothing''02:18
Citydogernesto, try modprobe ntfs02:18
Kyralernesto: I shall let our helpful bot ubotu help you02:18
v00d00mustard: I have a Geforce 6600GT..02:18
Kyralubotu tell ernesto about ntfs02:18
Kyralernesto: ubotu should have just PM'd you with a helpful set of instructions02:19
mustard5v00d00, hmmm...might be an issue with supporting that card02:19
mustard5v00d00, nvidia is usually pretty good though02:19
mustard5v00d00, I take it thats a pretty recent card02:19
v00d00I tried both I386 version and AMD64 :(02:19
Razor-X!ubotu02:19
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.02:19
Razor-Xv00d00: what graphics card do you have?02:20
v00d00mustard: yeah its pretty new...  Razor: nvidia 6600GT02:20
_SvaMpen_is there any "shell" that uses less memory then openbox?02:20
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Razor-Xv00d00: try running a google search on that, unless you want me to02:20
ernestook, thank you02:20
Kyral_SvaMpen_: You mean a plain old console?02:20
Razor-X_SvaMpen_: quite a few02:20
sexcopter8001mv00d00, is the screen resolution really low? like, 640x480...?02:20
Razor-X_SvaMpen_: but, at that point, you lose features most users are loathe to use02:20
_SvaMpen_yea but i want still be able to use firefox02:20
alxjvrhello, what devt tools (gcc, make, etc.) do i need to install so i can compile/install from source certain apps/services like apache2, mysql, etc?02:20
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Razor-X_SvaMpen_: my own WM has a filesize smaller than 1 MB02:21
v00d00Razor: I can try searching, thanks though Sexcopter: I can't tell the res, it's totally jumbled.. like weird vertical lines02:21
Kyral_SvaMpen_: I get quite nice performance out of Fluxbox02:21
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Kyralalxjvr: just use Synaptic/Apt to install them02:21
mustard5alxjvr, install build-essential02:21
_SvaMpen_Razor-X can u watch movies?02:21
Razor-Xv00d00: by the way, are you aware of tab-complete?02:21
Kyralalxjvr: They will take care of any needed proggys02:21
alxjvrmustard5: that_weasel02:21
Razor-X_SvaMpen_: of course, I can read manga, watch movies/anime, and browse the net graphically02:21
alxjvroops02:21
alxjvrmustard5: thanks02:21
mustard5alxjvr, most of that stuff is in the repositories as has been mentioned02:21
v00d00Razor: sorry, i'm a total noob to Linux..02:21
sexcopter8001mv00d00, hmmm... well if you can find a way to load the vesa driver, i would recommend trying that as a temp fix02:21
Razor-Xv00d00: it's not just a Linux thing, instead of typing out my name fully, type the first few letters of my name and hit TAB02:22
_SvaMpen_is it easy to change the WM???02:22
sexcopter8001mv00d00, strange though, i have a 6600 (not sure if it's GT) and have had *no* troubles at all02:22
mustard5alxjvr, it would be easier to install via apt-get or synaptic02:22
Razor-X_SvaMpen_: pretty straightforward02:22
dipanyone have experiece with cyberpowerpc.com or ibuypower.com ?? which would you buy from ?02:22
newbiescan i install winscp on my ubuntu?02:22
that_weaselalxjvr: mustard502:22
Razor-Xnewbies: WinSCP is a Windows only app02:22
mustard5that_weasel, k02:22
_SvaMpen_sounds good, ill be back, have to go to sleep now02:22
that_weasel:?02:22
Ep|phanywhen i try to install opera in terminal it says error about not having xlib6g  and xlibs02:22
Kyralnewbies: you have scp built in02:22
_SvaMpen_thank you and c u02:22
v00d00total bummer.. like might there be a command I can type in shell prior to the desktop coming up that might load in some kind of safe(r) mode?02:23
newbiesRazor-X, does it has the same feartures with winscp?02:23
that_weaselmustard5: "alxjvr mustard5: that_weasel"02:23
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v00d00I just hit enter (default) right now02:23
mustard5that_weasel, I have no idea02:23
mustard5that_weasel, a typo perhaps02:23
that_weaselperhaps02:23
Razor-Xnewbies: there should be some graphical SCP client for Linux, I'm not all that familiar with it, though02:23
KyralEp|phany: install them with Synaptic/Apt02:23
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newbiesRazor-X, oic02:23
alxjvrmustard5, that_weasel : typo, indeed, pressed the tab, sorry for that02:23
Ep|phanyi cant find em in synpatic02:23
that_weaselor maybe it was carefully crafted plan...02:23
newbiesRazor-X, tenks anywayss02:24
that_weasel:D02:24
mustard5that_weasel, hehe02:24
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sexcopter8001mv00d00, on a normal installation, there's a file /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and in there you tell X what driver to use. If you can edit that file to use vesa, then ctrl+alt+backspace restarts X and hey presto it works. but that's on a proper installation, how you'd do that with Live is beyond me02:24
frogzooman #ubuntu needs a 2nd room02:24
newbiesanyone knows whats the graphical client for Linux?02:24
Razor-Xnewbies: but for the command-line version, simply type in ``scp'' or ``sftp'' into a console, and it'll work great02:24
mustard5alxjvr, have you tried installing them via apt-get or synaptic yet?02:24
Razor-Xnewbies: try a google search :)02:24
Kyralnewbies: GFTP might work02:24
newbiesRazor-X, ehehe okz...02:25
Kyralnewbies: But I'm not sure02:25
newbiesKyral, tenks02:25
frogzoonewbies: from windows? Hummingbird or any other x server02:25
Razor-Xsexcopter8001m: you can change it, but at that point, it becomes more effecient to install Linux :P02:25
Ep|phanyhow do i aptget xlib6g?02:25
Kyral!info xlib02:25
sexcopter8001mRazor-X, indeed :p02:25
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KyralEp|phany: lemme search for a second02:25
Ep|phanyk02:25
newbiesfrogzoo, that i can install on my ubuntu02:25
frogzooEp|phany: it's 'apt-get install xxx'02:25
Razor-X!apt02:25
ubotumethinks apt is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto02:25
v00d00Appreciate the help guys! I will try reading some google search results and seeing about updating my drivers.. hope it works, I'm really excited about Linux, especially Ubuntu!02:25
lightbrightanyone know how to edit a VOB?  or convert it to AVI?02:26
KyralEp|phany: try install xlibs02:26
mustard5v00d00, hang out in here and you will pick up lots of tips I am sure02:26
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frogzoonewbies: but client for what? just xterm? from gnome, everything's through the gui02:26
v00d00http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9745902:26
v00d00^ seems he has the same problem02:26
Razor-Xv00d00: a friend of mine had a relatively new card that refused to work with his stock Linux X drivers, so we simply hopped on to the internet via lynx, got him the driver, and he had X :P02:26
sexcopter8001mv00d00, no probs, also try www.ubuntuforums.org, that can be a very useful resource02:26
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init_budmustard5, ok i'm back... lol. i looked on the website and it said to start a server type "pure-ftpd &" so i did. and it came back and said [1]  XXXX (where X =number) i'm guessing that is the portnumber that my server isrunning on. but how in the heck am i supposed to configure the server? options like the path and user accounts, etc... ? has anyone ever done this before?02:26
Razor-Xsexcopter8001m: errr.. for the time being, I would suggest you not refer to that place02:26
newbiesfrogzoo, just like wincsp?02:27
sexcopter8001mRazor-X, oh, why?02:27
Razor-Xsexcopter8001m: there's a lot of politics going on02:27
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Technobabblesexcopter... lol02:27
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mustard5init_bud, I use gftp myself..it has a gui :)02:27
Razor-Xblah, ``sftp'' is enough for me, it works fine02:27
Razor-Xcd blah, rm blah, put blah, exit02:27
Razor-X:)02:27
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mustard5init_bud, you could probably try typing man pure-ftpd and see if you get a manual02:28
KyralRazor-X: same here, but my IPTables are too good and block the return stream lol02:28
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Razor-XKyral: :P02:28
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Razor-XKyral: when I finish Japanese self-study (which I doubt will be for a while), I'm going to sit down with the IPTables manual02:29
Razor-XKyral: it's a 1000 page behemoth of a manual, and I've scanned enough to know it'll get me from advanced to expert level in Linux networking :P02:29
init_budmustard5, is gftp a server app?02:29
mustard5init_bud, umm a client app soz02:29
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sexcopter8001mRazor-X, wtf, politics?? can you explain or is it complicated?02:29
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frogzooRazor-X linkie for iptables manual pls?02:30
Razor-Xsexcopter8001m: I can in offtopic02:30
Kyralsexcopter8001m: its something better NOT discussed in public02:30
sexcopter8001mhmm, ok02:30
Razor-Xyeah, exactly what Kyral said02:30
Razor-Xfrogzoo: hmmm... wow, a short google search is turning up nothing02:31
Razor-Xfrogzoo: if I can't find the link, I'll put up a postscript file of it, mmkay?02:31
mustard5init_bud, I just found 'pureadmin' a gtk frontend for pure-ftpd in the repos02:31
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mustard5init_bud, try installing pureadmin and see if it helps02:31
Razor-Xfound it02:32
ice9can someone help me with installing cdemu ?02:32
Razor-Xfrogzoo: http://iptables-tutorial.frozentux.net/iptables-tutorial.html02:32
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KyralRazor-X: I just used the Wiki lol02:32
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billyhello02:33
Razor-XICE9: why not simply convert the BIN/CUE into an ISO, and mount it from there?02:33
Razor-XKyral: :P02:33
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NanoBCN28anyone here knows about php? didn't get any luck in the ##php02:33
ICE9it is an iso02:33
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Razor-XNanoBCN28: it may be #php, by the way02:33
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intelikeytcdemux ?02:33
ICE9I need tio open the iso for theh files02:33
Razor-XNanoBCN28: I don't know, just suggesting02:33
ICE9inside02:34
KyralNanoBCN28: lol if the people in #php can't help you...02:34
intelikeynot the same thing is it ?02:34
ICE9know what I mean02:34
HericusIf anyone has yahoo add me up.. "her1cus"02:34
ICE9I can I open up that iso ?>02:34
Razor-XICE9: you want to mount the ISO then?02:34
NanoBCN28Yes, no luck at all... :)02:34
ICE9just mount regular ?02:34
frogzooRazor-X much thanks :)02:34
KyralNanoBCN28: Then I don't think I can lol02:34
leather_n_luvlightbright: i'm back, forgot that i don't have win drivers for modem...02:34
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NanoBCN28Well, my question was about php-gettext02:35
Razor-XICE9: mount -o loop -t iso9660 foo.iso /mnt/mountpoint02:35
Razor-Xwhere ``foo.iso'' is the name of the ISO file, and /mnt/mountpoint is the location of an already existing mount point02:35
Razor-XICE9: oh, and prepend a ``sudo''02:35
frogzooloop backs are the shiz02:35
ICE9k thx02:35
Razor-Xaint that the truth :P02:36
Razor-Xcloop is even coler, though02:36
nadia007anyone know were I can find odbc drivers for msql 2000?02:36
Razor-X*cooler02:36
leather_n_luvcan someone help me with a modem problem?02:36
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Razor-XI take my leave now02:36
intelikey!find odbc02:36
nadia007!find odbc02:36
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nadia007nothing there.02:37
jcolenadia007: freetds02:37
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nadia007thanks jcole...02:37
korhalfany reason why i cant access my apache server02:37
korhalfhttp://localhost works02:37
Kyralnadia007: libmyodbc02:37
korhalfbut when i try to connect to my ip, it times out.02:37
mustard5leather_n_luv, what is the issue?02:38
SEJeffkorhalf: That has to do with the Listen directive in your apache configuration file02:38
frogzookorhalf: firewall?02:39
SEJeffno02:39
korhalfno firewall02:39
korhalfthe port is forwarded02:39
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korhalfSEJeff, explain02:39
ICE9its has to be mnt/mountpoint ?02:39
SEJefffrogzoo: If he can access it via hostname and not via ip, it is his apache configuration02:39
SEJeffkorhalf: Listen localhost02:39
TrilomWow02:39
ICE9or no02:39
TrilomOk people02:39
TrilomIVe been intrested in puting ubuntu on my PC02:39
Trilomcould someone help me02:39
Trilomand let me know how02:39
Trilomand why02:40
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SEJeffkorhalf: In your apache configuraiton file will only allow people to access the server if it is from http://localhost02:40
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Trilomjust overall help me with it please?02:40
PlazmaOh to those who may be interested, i got MythTV working beautifuly on Ubuntu..02:40
Trilomjust pm me please02:40
mustard5Trilom, what type of system have you got?02:40
frogzooSEJeff: hmm... access to 127.0.0.1 isn't the same as x.x.x.x02:40
mindlacehigh ... I've spent a bunch of time trying to move an ubuntu install from a sata drive to a raid array unrecognized by 2.6.12... it would really make my life much easier if there was a straightforward way for me to build a new install .iso with a 2.6.13+ kernel02:40
SEJefffrogzoo: But he can access it via localhost02:40
intelikeyICE9 any dir can be a mount point.   but any files in the dir will be unreachable while an file system is mounted on the dir.02:40
frogzooSEJeff: localhost = 127.0.0.102:40
SEJefffrogzoo: Thanks for the obvious :)02:41
mindlaceI assume someone builds install .iso's to begin with, so there must be some sort of process involved02:41
TrilomMustard05: 98SE02:41
korhalfk got it working02:41
Razor-Xmindlace: ah, it's complicated02:41
SEJeffkorhalf: What did you have to do?02:41
mustard5Trilom, what graphics card?02:41
korhalfi nmapped myself and checked the config02:41
Trilommustard5: ATI rage pro 4mb02:42
SEJeffkorhalf: Did you have to change the config?02:42
korhalfi also made sure my host had dynamic ip on02:42
korhalfyes02:42
Razor-Xerrr *marches back to work*02:42
SEJeffkorhalf: What did you change to make it work?02:42
mustard5Trilom, hmm ok...and sound card?02:42
korhalfthe listening port.02:42
Trilommustard5: not sure, lemme check02:42
ICE9hey can I pm someone what error I get ?02:42
frogzooice9 just pastebin02:42
korhalfListen 8002:43
leather_n_luvmustard5: the hcl asys that it works, but i can't get it to, it is not autodetected, i don't have win drivers02:43
mustard5Trilom, you might have issues with ATI card I am not sure..best to ask someone who uses ATI..I use nvidia myself02:43
mindlaceRazor-x: ok, i'll just keep working on the "move distro to array" approach02:43
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mustard5leather_n_luv, do you know what type of modem it is?02:43
SEJeffkorhalf: You can also do Listen hostname:8002:43
SEJeffkorhalf: and have multiple Listen directives if you want02:44
korhalfyeh02:44
mustard5leather_n_luv, brand name that is02:44
Trilommustard5: I have an Nvidia card02:44
frogzooTrilom: that cards pretty old - stock drivers might not work - consider compiling your own02:44
Razor-Xmindlace: it probably doesen't need as much guesswork, though, it's like the advantage of using Gaussian-Jordan Elimination on large matricies to plain Gaussian Elimination... but I digress :P02:44
TrilomMustard5: ive been complictating putting it in, but the only problem is this computer has a pent 2 (350 mghtz) and liek everything else is much better02:44
Silvester_hi02:44
mustard5Trilom, k..well you might have more luck with nvidia card for graphics02:45
SEJeffkorhalf: glad you got it working02:45
Trilommustard5: could we talk in PM please?02:45
lightbrightanyone know how to edit a VOB?02:45
mindlaceI suspect the work would be about equivalent, given I have to make a new initrd etc. etc.02:45
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mustard5Trilom, hang on a tick...my ISP is about to disconnect me..I'll be back in a minute02:45
SEJeffmustard5: FYI. xorg 7.0 and upcoming x will have pretty good support for EXA on ati's 9200 video card series02:45
SEJeffmustard5: for pretty eyecandy02:45
mustard5SEJeff, k :)02:45
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lightbrightmustard5: no hot dog pls02:46
leather_n_luvmustard5: (sorry, eating nachos. lol) 82801AA 810 Chipset AC'97 PCI Modem (vendor:8086 device:2416)02:46
ICE9ok now that I have it mounted02:46
Razor-XSEJeff: wasn't nVidia making the one graphics card that supports lightning quick ASCII displays?02:46
ICE9how do I open the iso02:46
lightbrightleather_n_luv: you back?  you told me you running back to MS windows :P02:46
SEJeffRazor-X: I don't know02:46
tiwihi, any one can help, how to connect to windows network\02:46
Razor-XSEJeff: ah well, us nethackers would have it good then :P02:47
lightbrighttiwi: Samba?02:47
SEJeffRazor-X: Irsii is your friend02:47
korhalfSEJeff, im having an issue getting windows to see my linux samba server02:47
intelikeyICE9 you don't open it.  if it is mounted you just work in the mount point02:47
korhalfbut i guess thats another issue.02:47
Razor-XSEJeff: I use erc, actually :P02:47
leather_n_luvlightbright: lol, no just checking for port but haven't run win for so long, forgot i don't have drivers02:47
puffEvening.02:47
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SEJeffRazor-X: you should use irsii :)02:47
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puffRazor-X: Me too.02:47
intelikeymount this.iso /blah -o loop ; ls /blah02:48
frogzooICE9: please pay attention - mount -o loop -t iso9660 foo.iso /mnt/mountpoint02:48
Razor-XSEJeff: hey, erc comes with all the awesomeness of emacs02:48
lightbrightleather_n_luv: look in back02:48
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mustard5Trilom, ok PM me now02:48
lightbrightleather_n_luv: is your modem on comm port 2?02:48
perdidopunkcan anybody here help me with installing gcc in ubuntu from the terminal ?02:48
Razor-XSEJeff: plus, I can use mule's TeX input method to say stuff like ``pwnd''02:48
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|ed|ok another question02:48
frogzooperdidopunk: sudo dpkg -i build-essentials02:48
|ed|'the audio is'nt working on my sons i book02:48
Trilommustard5: bleh have to register one second02:49
leather_n_luvlightbright: i have 2 serial, so wouldn't that make it com 302:49
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perdidopunkdoes that involve any kind of downloading ?02:49
perdidopunkbecause ubuntu can't see my net card right now...02:49
|ed|any ideas on why02:49
mustard5Trilom, k02:49
leather_n_luvmustard5: (sorry, eating nachos. lol) 82801AA 810 Chipset AC'97 PCI Modem (vendor:8086 device:2416)02:49
frogzooperdidopunk: not sure, build-essentials might be on the install cd02:49
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perdidopunkhmm02:49
perdidopunkwell02:49
ICE9getting an error02:49
puffRazor-X: Do you have emacs cut & paste integration?02:49
mustard5leather_n_luv, hmmm k02:49
lightbrightleather_n_luv: sorry eating nachos.02:49
leather_n_luvlightbright: i have a serial port on my nic02:49
ICE9when trying to mount the iso that way02:50
perdidopunki downloaded gcc from the gcc site02:50
intelikeyfrogzoo i have a question for ya, does /mnt exist by default on breezy ?02:50
mustard5perdidopunk, there is no 's' on the end02:50
lightbrightleather_n_luv: you will have to get someone to your place02:50
SEJeffintelikey: yes02:50
perdidopunkcould i use a live cd to build it ?02:50
frogzooICE9: prepend 'sudo' & make sure the mount point exists02:50
mustard5perdidopunk, you don't need to download from the site02:50
[theCore(n=theCore@Toronto-HSE-ppp3715463.sympatico.ca)] help02:50
intelikeyhmm it doesn't on hoary02:50
|ed|anyone?02:50
perdidopunkthanks02:50
tiwilightbright : i use the samba but when connect to server windows, require the password, and i have try. still cannot02:50
[theCore(n=theCore@Toronto-HSE-ppp3715463.sympatico.ca)] version02:50
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SEJeffintelikey: It is in the FHS. I think it did in hoary too02:50
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ICE9can I mount it to dev/loop02:51
lightbrighttiwi: all the best02:51
perdidopunki don't suppose anybody here has an ati card of the new r5xx architecture, do they?02:51
Razor-Xpuff: I prefer not to, only because I handle a lot of stuff that I'ld rather keep in the kill-ring rather than let the clipboard have at it, instead, I either use screen's scrollback (which is ew) or I have to *groan* use the mouse to select it, copy to primary buffer, and then I use a ratpoison bind of C-t C-c that calls a script that places it in the clipboard :P02:51
frogzooICE9: no, don't put it there - try 'sudo mkdir /mnt/loop'02:51
mustard5leather_n_luv, I'm not sure about that modem...I take it you have visited the linmodem website for clues?02:51
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frogzoothen 'sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 foo.iso /mnt/loop'02:52
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tiwithis is my 1st time using UBUNTU. I still have to work hard02:52
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intelikeyeasy way 'mkdir temp ;sudo mount ..... temp '02:52
Kyraltiwi: we all had to :D02:52
tiffanyhello?02:52
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|ed|ok someone i need some here hehe02:52
tiffanywhat exactly is this ?02:52
leather_n_luvyup, got my compatibility info from linuxquestions.org02:52
Kyraltiwi: then you will discover an insane amount of abilities. And the power of the GPL02:52
Kyral!ubuntu02:52
ubotufrom memory, ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards02:52
Trilommustard, ok pm sent see if you got it02:52
Razor-Xtiffany: read the topic :P02:52
qt2Flash works fine in firefox via sudo, but not if i run it as a normal user, anyone have any clue what could be wrong?02:52
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tiwisory what is GPL02:53
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tiffanyalrighty then..i believe i'll jus leave now.byee02:53
Razor-X!gpl02:53
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, Razor-X02:53
Kyral!gpl02:53
Razor-Xwew02:53
Razor-X*wow02:53
frogzoogpl = GNU Public Licence02:53
intelikeytiwi http://gnu.org02:53
Razor-Xtiwi: http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html02:53
Razor-Xthat is the GPL, in its entirety02:54
mustard5leather_n_luv, have you tried looking for some drivers online?02:54
Kyraltiwi: In a word, the GPL allows you to make software and do whatever you want with it, as long as you grant the same permissions to everyone else02:54
Razor-XKyral: that's a lot of words :P02:54
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leather_n_luvmustard5: where?02:54
KyralRazor-X: its shorter than reading the entire thign :P02:54
tiwioh , thk02:54
perdidopunkdoes 5.04 compile the kernel to support pci express by default ?02:55
leather_n_luvmustard5: i can't find windows drivers02:55
Razor-XKyral: :P02:55
mustard5leather_n_luv, there are a number of sites..I'd have to google one up02:55
frogzooMost importantly, GPL means the SOURCE CODE is freely available & free to be redistributed02:55
Kyralperdidopunk: I'm not sure02:55
ICE9sudo mount -o loop -t dev-qua4.iso /mnt/quake02:55
ICE9this is what I have02:55
Kyralperdidopunk: why not use 5.10 Breezy?02:55
Razor-Xif you can, I suggest you read the GPL yourself, interpretations almost always tend to contain human bias :)02:55
perdidopunkbecause 5.04 is what i could find on the network at my school02:56
ICE9I made a adir called quake in /mnt.quake02:56
leather_n_luvmustard5: please do, 'cause i must not know what to look for02:56
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perdidopunkwe have a 7 day bandwidth usage limit on outside internet use02:56
ICE9just not mounting02:56
KyralRazor-X: I wanna get the T-Shirt with the GPL on it lol02:56
perdidopunkso i didn't feel like downloading a whole iso02:56
Razor-XKyral: hahahaha!02:56
SEJeffAnd I thought I was a nerd02:56
frogzooICE9: does the mount point exist? /mnt/loop or whatever -  mount -o loop -t iso9660 foo.iso /mnt/loop02:56
calcanyone know of a good doc to read on how to setup multiple screens in xorg (xinerama?)02:56
leather_n_luvmustard5: as i said, i can't even find windows drivers for the thing02:56
Kyralperdidopunk: And I thought that MY school sucked when it came to bandwidth02:56
ICE9yes02:56
Razor-XSEJeff: I hang up derivatives on my jacket and walk to school02:56
ICE9I have a dir inside of /mnt called quake02:56
perdidopunkwe just have a lot of people here, haha02:56
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perdidopunkit's 1.5GB per 7 day period02:56
Razor-XSEJeff: and I'm 15, so there's your definition of weirdness today :P02:57
frogzooICE9: sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 foo.iso /mnt/quake02:57
SEJeffRazor-X: I threw a livecd at a guy today accross the room02:57
perdidopunkargh02:57
SEJeffRazor-X: At work!02:57
perdidopunkdpkg -i build-essential doesn't work02:57
Kyralperdidopunk: sudo it02:57
perdidopunkneither does dpkg -i build-essential02:57
mustard5leather_n_luv, have you tried a site like this? http://www.driverguide.com/02:57
perdidopunk*essentials02:57
intelikey-t is superflutious02:57
leather_n_luvmustard5: yup02:57
frogzooICE9: where is the iso? I hope you're not using 'foo.iso' as your path - replace with the real path to the iso02:58
SEJeffperdidopunk: it is a metapackage. Use apt-get to install the dependencies02:58
Kyralperdidopunk: sudo apt-get install build-essential02:58
perdidopunkuhhhhh02:58
ICE9of course not02:58
perdidopunkapt-get gets stuff from the internet, correct ?02:58
Kyralperdidopunk: correct02:58
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perdidopunk<- no network connectivity at the moment02:58
frogzooperdidopunk: not if it on the CD, & the CD repo is enabled02:58
Razor-XSEJeff: hah, awesome. I got pissed off at someone once, and threw a CD in a really tight spiral, it missed by a bit and shattered into pieces on the walll02:58
perdidopunkwith that computer, anyway02:58
leather_n_luvmustard5: been a member for years, i fix windows part time from my home, i am a win guru (minus the networking)02:58
mustard5leather_n_luv, hmm k..well I am out of ideas unfortunately02:58
Razor-XSEJeff: but that was WinXP Professional, I think02:58
frogzooperdidopunk: my bad 'build-essential' not 'build-essentials'02:59
perdidopunkalright, it's gonna look at the drive02:59
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perdidopunkerm02:59
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perdidopunkdisc02:59
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korhalfhey theres me02:59
korhalfeternalist,02:59
vladuz976how can i check diskspace used in bash?02:59
perdidopunksure was a lot easier to install fedora, haha02:59
Kyralvladuz976: df -h02:59
perdidopunkummm02:59
perdidopunkthat was fast03:00
perdidopunkdid it build anything ?03:00
leather_n_luvmustard5: thanks for your time.03:00
mindlaceI need busybox to install a new initrd, anyone know why apt-get install busybox wants to remove my kernel?03:00
intelikeyperdidopunk man du03:00
Kyralperdidopunk: Build-Essential?03:00
perdidopunki did apt-get install build-essential03:00
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intelikeysorry perdidopunk  i meant vladuz97603:00
Kyralmindlace: checkout wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelHowto03:00
vladuz976Kyral: thanks03:00
Kyralperdidopunk: did you sudo it03:00
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perdidopunki'm logged in as root03:01
derykCould someone help me out with viewing a Quicktime stream in Firefox? I just tried watching the X3 trailer, but things aren't working.03:01
leather_n_luvvladuz976: df03:01
Kyralperdidopunk: then nm lol03:01
perdidopunkwow03:01
derykI can watch a quicktime mov file through mplayer, but Firefox always launches Totem03:01
perdidopunkapparently it did build it03:01
perdidopunkuhhh03:01
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perdidopunki guess they were binaries already...03:01
perdidopunkok03:01
Kyralperdidopunk: no sourcecode. Apt uses Binaries :D03:01
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perdidopunknow to configure my kernel...03:01
_jasonubotu, tell deryk about replacetotem03:01
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Kyralperdidopunk: I assume you know how to do that?03:01
SEJeffperdidopunk: Unless you do sudo apt-get source packagename03:01
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perdidopunkargh03:02
perdidopunkunable to find the Ncurses libraries :-(03:02
Kyralperdidopunk: you need the Kernel source03:02
ICE9I should be in the iso dir right03:02
ICE9when mounting03:02
perdidopunki have the kernel source03:02
perdidopunki'm trying to do make menuconfig03:02
|ed|ok so ubuntu sees the audio card as powertubler or what ever but i cant get any audio and i run amork and it tells me that it does'nt have mp3 support any ideas anyone?03:02
mindlaceKyral: thank you for the suggestion; I have read that document, and it doesn't help me with my case (making grub/initrd work on a LVM root partition)03:02
perdidopunkwell at least i got past not having gcc...03:02
adiabattyI'm about to install Ubuntu on a machine that'll have 512 MB of RAM assuming I have only one bad stick of RAM; is that low enough to make GNOME choke and sputter, or will I be okay with Nautilus and friends?03:03
Kyralperdidopunk: install libncurses403:03
frogzooICE9: it doesnt matter as long as the path is correct 'sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 PATH_TO_ISO /mnt/quake'03:03
funktownadiabatty > my 512 MB runs gnome just fine03:03
derykthanks _jason!03:03
perdidopunkdon't have it03:03
ICE9I'm going to try it that way03:03
ICE9something just don't jive here03:03
_jasonderyk, yw03:03
frogzoofunkyHat: 512M? I should hope so :)03:03
Kyralmindlace: I don't know anything about LVM03:03
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perdidopunklibncurses4 isn't on the ubuntu cd i take it ?03:03
adiabattyfunktown, frogzoo: phew03:03
Kyralperdidopunk: apt-cache search ncurses03:04
funkyHatfrogzoo, i'm not funktown ;)03:04
frogzooICE9: are you sure the file you have IS an iso? should be around 600MB, try 'file PATH_TO_ISO'03:04
qt2okay, now that i've found the solution to my issue.03:04
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qt2i suggest someone modify the restrictedformats wiki.03:04
perdidopunksays its already installed03:04
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perdidopunkbut make menuconfig still won't work03:04
mindlacemaybe I should just punt and repartition so that root is not in LVM03:04
psycodeI can't use remote desktop correctly, its always giving me "authentication problems". i used xpasswd to set the password on the server side03:05
Kyralmindlace: I think that may be wise03:05
Kyralmindlace: I've used LVM Partitions before03:05
Kyralmindlace: but not as the rootFS03:05
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perdidopunkdoes it need to be in my path ?03:05
frogzoomindlace: do you have a separate, non LVM /boot fs?03:05
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mindlacefrogzoo: yes03:06
Kyralperdidopunk: I tink its libncurses-dev03:06
Kyralqt2: Yes?03:06
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perdidopunkhmmm03:07
mindlaceall the instructions I can find suggest I need a special initrd image so that I can do root=/dev/<myvg>/root03:07
perdidopunkapt-cache search doesn't show ncurses-devel as being there...03:07
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Kyralperdidopunk: libncurses-dev03:07
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perdidopunknor that03:07
mindlacelvm2root=/dev/<mpg>/root , that is03:07
funktownperdidopunk > try 'libncurses5-dev'03:07
calcmindlace: root on lvm works fine, you just need /boot not on lvm afaik03:07
cope_hey just a question, whats the live-powerpc version of ubuntu? i downloaded it, but is it a live cd? I don't want to burn it if it is03:08
perdidopunknope03:08
perdidopunki guess i'll download it03:08
Kyralcope_: the LiveCD is a LiveCD lol03:08
Kyralcope_: the install cds are marked as such03:08
mindlacelike this article is telling me to remake the initrd image: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/293#comment_1003:08
cope_whats the difference between powerpc and i386"03:08
cope_?03:08
Kyralmindlace: if you have a non-LVM partition for /boot03:08
ICE9mount: unknown filesystem type 'dev-qua4.iso'03:08
ICE9hmm now what03:08
Kyralcope_: PowerPC is for Macs :P03:09
cope_shit03:09
cope_lol03:09
cope_i downloaded the wrong one :)03:09
intelikeycope $49.9503:09
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ICE9wrong file system03:10
ICE9hmm03:10
mindlaceKyral: I do, so "kernel /boot/somekernel root=/dev/<myvg>/root ro quiet splash" should just work?03:10
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mindlacesomehow I don't think it will03:10
Kyralmindlace: the installer will config it right03:10
mindlaceKyral: the installer can't see the hardware RAID array03:10
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mindlacewhich is why I'm in this situation in the first place03:11
perdidopunkhow do i install this .deb ?03:11
cope_is there a big difference between horay and badger?03:11
frogzooperdidopunk: dpkg -i x.deb03:11
perdidopunkthanks03:11
funktownuse sudo, though03:11
frogzooyar03:11
Kyralcope_: Hoary (5.04) is the predecessor to Breezy(5.10)03:11
slideIs there a way to install vmware5 using the packages?03:11
intelikeyperdidopunk apt-get install     if at all possable03:11
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Kyralcope_: Breezy is current03:11
perdidopunkno network03:11
Kyralintelikey: he has no net03:11
Technobabblecope, horay < badger == mushroom == snake03:11
KyralTechnobabble: lol03:12
Technobabbleit's true...03:12
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cope_lol03:12
calcmindlace: i use lvm on pretty much all the servers i manage at my job03:12
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cope_so when i install a mushroom, will i start seeing things?03:12
shanonxhi everyone...03:12
Technobabblemaybe03:12
cope_will my hand look big?03:12
KyralNo I'm remembering Matt and someone else doing the dance at UBuntuLove lol03:12
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shanonxanyone here that can help me with some very basic linux commands... <-- NOOB!03:13
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Kyralshanonx: gimme a sec to dig up something03:13
ma5terdphay im back with a new question people03:13
j1hey all03:13
mindlacecalc: cool, so you know what's needed for grub to use a LVM device for root?03:13
shanonxok Kyral thank ya.03:13
Kyralshanonx: check this out http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7388503:13
calcmindlace: just root=/dev/(foo)/root or whatever you called it03:14
ma5terdphow do i get permission do a mounted hda undert Ubuntu03:14
j1anyone have experience with installing nVidia drivers for Linux for their GEforce cards?03:14
ICE9is there a way to update mount to look for other file sytems ?03:14
ICE9or no03:14
intelikeyshanonx don't ask to ask, just ask.03:14
funktownma5terdp > sudo?03:14
Kyralj1: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable03:14
calcmindlace: at least on debian, i am using debian sarge on the servers at work, ubuntu should be the same though03:14
ma5terdpi get errors like cannont move file non permision file system03:14
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ma5terdplike this for example03:14
intelikeyICE9 man mount.    and man fstab03:14
mindlacecalc: oh, cool. If it's that easy I will be a very happy monkey03:14
qt2Kyral, err, there should be an appendage under the flash sound issues osmwhere that symptoms of the flash sound issues include: flash videos stopping after 1sec of play, firefox freezing when going to another page ater having tried to view a flash video, and the firefox process not correctly ending after having tried to view a flash video.03:14
frogzoo!tell j1 about nvidia03:15
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perdidopunkanybody here using a radeon x1000 series video card ?03:15
ma5terdpok i put this sudo mv 1.1 /media/drive03:15
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Kyralqt2: you can actully add that yourself03:15
qt2Kyral, i experienced all of those trying to figure out why flash wouldnt play more than one second of video.03:15
ma5terdpi get this error03:15
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qt2Kyral, can i? i'm not familiar with wiki's.03:15
Kyralqt2: Yup03:15
j1Kyral... thanks, that seems to be working : )03:15
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shanonxSorry intelikey03:15
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ma5terdppermission deniied03:16
Kyralshanonx: it is quite alright03:16
ma5terdphow do i cd to a drive03:16
cope_how much wood can a woodchuck chuck03:16
Kyralshanonx: Humanity To Others03:16
ma5terdpwhen i get permision denied03:16
cope_of course, that is, if the wood chuck could chuck it03:16
Kyralma5terdp: cd /path03:16
funktownma5terdp > is "/media/drive" mounted?03:16
ma5terdpyup03:16
intelikeyma5terdp so was there a file named   '1.1' in your home dir that is now in /media/drive ?03:16
ma5terdpmounted03:16
diegoESPAOL?03:16
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ma5terdpit wont go  2 media drive03:16
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funktowndid you set up fstab?03:16
ma5terdpno how do i fstab03:17
j1Kyral, tells me to restart X...  how do you recommend I do that03:17
frogzoo!tell diego about es03:17
j1reboot?03:17
diego#ubuntu_es03:17
ma5terdpi got drive mounted03:17
diegocomo se entra al canal en espaol?03:17
Kyralj1: Just hit CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE03:17
slideIs there no 'package' for vmware5? If not, would yall recommend using the perl installers default values for the directories?03:17
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frogzoo!es03:17
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.03:17
mindlacemasterdp: is your name a reference to your proclivity at performing in a particularly plural penetrating process?03:17
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tiwiwhat is the dcc03:17
ma5terdplol nooo its my initials03:17
j1thanks again Kyral03:17
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frank23slide: yeah the defaults should be ok.  export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4  before running config03:18
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fangorioushow do I prevent my network interfaces from being re-added as, for example, "auto eth0" in /etc/network/interfaces?03:18
ma5terdpok here is what im trying 2 do03:18
slidek03:18
intelikeytiwi dcc=direct client 2 client03:18
fangoriousI keep removing that, and it keeps coming back03:18
mindlaceah well... here I thought you were a porn star, ma5terdp03:18
slidefrank23, there is no way to get it to use the packing system so that it can get updated regularly?03:18
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ma5terdplol03:19
ma5terdpgotcha03:19
ma5terdpdone a cple flix in my days tho lol03:19
frank23slide: no vmware does not have a deb repository03:19
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slidek =\03:19
Kyralj1: It worked?03:19
frank23slide: as far as I know anyways03:19
frank23slide: you need gcc-3.4 and the kernel headers installed too03:19
slideokedoke03:20
slidefrank23, the 'base' or the gcc-3.4 package?03:20
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ma5terdpok i get a read only filesystem error!!03:20
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frank23slide: just gcc-3.403:20
funktownmasterdp > what is it you're trying to do, exactly?03:20
ma5terdpwhen i do a sudo mv 1.1 /media/mac03:21
slidety :)03:21
j1Kyral: it worked great, thanks!03:21
ma5terdpi am trying to move a file03:21
j1i was just running penguin racer to test03:21
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j1flawless03:21
funktownfrom where to where?03:21
ma5terdpfrom my ubuntu desktop to my hda2 partition03:21
perdidopunki just love dependencies...03:21
Kyralj1: Just warning. When the Kernel gets an update there is a good chance you will have to redo that03:21
perdidopunkhere's a question03:21
ma5terdpwich is /media/mac03:21
ma5terdpso i do this03:21
perdidopunki have windows installed on a raid 0 array on an SiL 0680 pci raid controller03:21
perdidopunki want to put that installation into my grub.conf03:21
fangoriousanyone? network interfaces keep getting added to /etc/network/interfaces to be configured at boot03:22
ma5terdpsudo mv 1.1 /media/mac and i get read-only file system03:22
perdidopunkwhat do i need to do ?03:22
j1ahh. thanks.  will i be able to start X at least?03:22
frank23j1: no03:22
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ICE9damn this sucks03:22
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ICE9lol03:22
Kyralj1: just drop to a terminal and redo those steps03:22
funktownma5terdp.. "gedit /etc/fstab" and see what it says for "/dev/hda2"03:22
ICE9do I need to convert the iso maybe03:22
Kyralj1: But you don't have to worry, a kernel update shouldn't come until April03:22
j1got it.  I'll record that command for later use.03:22
frank23j1: If I understand what you did... you installed the nvidia drivers from nvidia.com03:22
frank23?03:22
intelikeyICE9 what are you trying to do with this file ?03:22
ma5terdpk working03:23
j1Kryal, do you work for whobuntu?03:23
ICE9I need files inside the iso03:23
frogzoofangorious: not sure - gnome doing it? deactivate card through network settings? tool bar, top right03:23
ma5terdpit says /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot / auto noatime 0 003:23
ma5terdptmpfs /tmp tmpfs nosuid,nodev 0 003:23
KyralKyral: I am a Member, yes03:23
Kyralerr03:23
Kyrallol03:23
j1cool03:23
Kyralj1: I am a Member yes03:23
perdidopunkcan i upgrade packages with dpkg ?03:23
ICE9I need to copy some the of files inside the iso03:23
ICE9so I can play quake ?03:23
funktownno.. for /dev/hda2.. wheres the mountpoint at?03:23
Kyralj1: In my normal life I'm just a college student who likes to help03:23
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slidewhat is 'make' part of?03:24
ma5terdpthats what fstab says03:24
j1Kyral: how long have you studied linux03:24
intelikeyICE9 what is the path and name of the iso ?03:24
ICE9mount: unknown filesystem type 'dev-qua4.iso'03:24
ICE9oops03:24
ICE9one sec03:24
slidewhich version of automake should i install? The newest?03:24
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Kyralj1: Studied isn't the word. Used is more like it. Almost 3 years now03:24
ma5terdpi mounted my /dev/hda2 onto /media/mac03:24
perdidopunkwhat do i do, dpkg -U or something to update packages ?03:24
Kyralperdidopunk: just install the new version03:25
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j1Kyral: well, thanks for your help03:25
KyralI believe DPKG will take care of the rest03:25
ICE9sudo mount -o loop -t qua4.iso /home/ice9/games/QUAKE.4.DVD-DEViANCE/qua4.iso  /mnt/quake/03:25
ma5terdpii did a sudo mount /dev/hda2 -t hfsplus /media/mac03:25
ICE9that what I have03:25
Kyralj1: Anytime. This is what I am here for03:25
ma5terdpis that correct>03:25
intelikeyperdidopunk man dpkg for all the switchs03:25
perdidopunki think i found it03:25
funktowndunno.. i always just made fstab entries =P03:25
perdidopunkugh03:26
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stevenjcan somone please tell me if its possible to play encrypted wmv files in breezy???? I can play regular wmv or anything else!03:26
perdidopunki'm getting no breaks03:26
Technobabblethank you guys a lot, i'll be back later03:26
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diegocomo agrego un canal en espaol?03:26
ma5terdpso how would i to a fstab>03:26
McScrufflo, what package do i need for  uudeview.h03:26
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intelikeyICE9 qua4.iso is a file system type  ????03:26
perdidopunki'm about to scrap this and get another distro if i can't at least get X up and running soon03:26
ICE9yes03:26
navaroneMcScruff,  try sudo dpkg -l <filename>03:26
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diegonadie habla espaol che?03:26
intelikeyand qua4.isofs is supported by your kernel ?03:27
ICE9should be03:27
perdidopunkcan i force this to remove libc6 ???03:27
ICE9amd generic03:27
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ICE964 bit03:27
perdidopunki'm trying to install a new version03:27
funktownma5terdp > /dev/hda2 /media/mac ext3(or whatever) defaults 0 003:27
Nikusandiego, /join #ubuntu-es03:27
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frank23perdidopunk: don't ever remove libc603:27
perdidopunki have a newer version that i need to install03:28
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ma5terdphow do i enter taht?03:28
logical_markHey guys. My laptop battery died when I was in Ubuntu and now when I login it just sits on the brown background. None of the icons or panels start up03:28
ma5terdpjust in terminal03:28
ma5terdpas is03:28
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perdidopunkit's part of a set of dependencies for libncurses5-dev03:28
frogzooICE9: no way - I think youe looking at the file name03:28
intelikeyICE9 it's new fs type to me.... all the iso's i've played with were iso9660/rr03:28
perdidopunkis there an update flag for dpkg ???03:28
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perdidopunk--update-avail didn't do anything03:28
ma5terdplol how do i unmouint drive03:28
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frogzooperdidopunk: man dpkg03:29
perdidopunk-i just tells me it's already installed03:29
theCorediego, ask how to add a spanish channel03:29
perdidopunki looked in there03:29
ma5terdpnever mind lol03:29
perdidopunkthe only useful one i could find was --update-avail but that just gives me a parse error03:29
ICE9its an iso from a rar03:29
perdidopunknewline in field name '!<arch>'03:29
ICE9not a cd03:29
perdidopunkthis is starting to get pretty lame03:29
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frank23perdidopunk: what are you trying to do exactly?  you can use synaptic to have everything updated03:29
intelikey<ICE9> try this pls.  ' sudo mount -o loop /home/ice9/games/QUAKE.4.DVD-DEViANCE/qua4.iso  /mnt/quake/ ; ls /mnt/quake '03:29
diegocomo es el canal espaol?03:29
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perdidopunki had an easier time putting linux on my laptop...03:29
amonkeywhat's a good prog for monitoring which proccesses are hoggin the memory? top shows that almost all my memory is taken but doesn't say who, and gkrell says it's almost all free03:30
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perdidopunki can't update anything over the net03:30
perdidopunkbecause ubuntu can't see my network card03:30
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ICE9yeah that is the file name03:30
perdidopunkor my video card for that matter03:30
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frogzooICE9: I think if this file was an iso, 'file' would recognise it - my guess is it's still in rar form & you need to unrar it03:30
ICE9I'm sorry just got confused03:30
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intelikey<ICE9> try this pls.  ' sudo mount -o loop /home/ice9/games/QUAKE.4.DVD-DEViANCE/qua4.iso  /mnt/quake/ ; ls /mnt/quake '03:30
perdidopunkso i'm stuck in a terminal with no network connectivity03:30
ma5terdphay funktown how do i enter that cmd?03:30
ma5terdpsays permision denied03:30
Hericus^majik^, you left the forums?03:30
Xenguyamonkey: top should show who03:30
mcjerrydoes anyone use the MCE remote in ubuntu?03:30
perdidopunki have the .deb file for libc603:30
perdidopunkand all i want to do is replace the older version03:30
frogzoointelikey: this file ICE9 is trying to mount isnt an iso03:31
frank23perdidopunk: you need a more recent version of libc6? why?03:31
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amonkeyXenguy, top mem% can't be correct, only 15-20% (inline withwhat gkrell says is used) is shown but at the top it's almost all gone03:31
perdidopunkin order to get libncurses5-dev installed03:31
perdidopunkso that i can do make menuconfig to configure my kernel03:31
intelikeyfrogzoo ah dvd03:31
perdidopunki don't want to do it in text mode03:31
perdidopunkso that i can configure the kernel to support pci express03:31
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tk422hello03:32
perdidopunkso that i can get some video and network drivers installed03:32
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ma5terdpanyone?03:32
Xenguyamonkey: check CPU and mem, find the offending app, and kill -9 it03:32
diego /join #ubuntu-es03:32
perdidopunkso that i can finally think about changing my grub.conf to boot back into windows on that machine03:32
tk422can anyone help with a problem? when I launch amarok it says something about a DCOP problem, anyone know about this?03:32
navaroneperdidopunk,  if you don't want to configure in text mode shouldn't your first task be getting x server operational?03:32
amonkeyXenguy, in the rows, nothing is taking up a lot of anything03:32
ICE9ok I get iso996003:32
perdidopunkcan't very well do that without pci express support03:32
ICE9is teh filetype03:32
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frank23perdidopunk: oh.... the breezy kernel doesn't support pci express ?03:32
perdidopunkmy video card is a radeon x1800 xt 512mb03:32
perdidopunkjust came out03:33
ICE9ok03:33
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perdidopunki have the drivers for it03:33
navaroneperdidopunk, ...seesm yuo put the cart before the horse03:33
Xenguyamonkey: in top, try playing with the > key03:33
perdidopunkbut i have a feeling that when i installed ubuntu it didn't configure the kernel for pci express support03:33
ma5terdpsorry 2 keep buggin03:33
Xenguyamonkey: and then < to get back where you were03:33
ma5terdpanyone help me out03:33
perdidopunkit would've helped if it asked me to choose how i wanted to configure it instead of just doing it for me...03:33
amonkeyXenguy, yeah i know about that, nothing is taking the memory nor the cycles03:33
ma5terdpi am trying 2 edit my drive03:33
bretzelHi there, how to configure and enable the TV out with ubuntu ?03:33
intelikeyok ICE9 any error message ?    or any output from the 'ls' ?03:33
Xenguyamonkey: if memory is short, then something is hogging it - what do you think is going on?03:34
qt2Kyral, erm, is there certain rules that should be followed when editing a wiki page?03:34
mcjerryanyone..if i want to use my MCE remote in ubuntu, what do i need to install other than LIRC package in synaptec?03:34
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mcjerrybretzel, what video card?03:34
Xenguyamonkey: otherwise, maybe your system is compromised and someone invisible is using your resources <evil grin>03:35
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sorush20guys hi03:35
Xenguyamonkey: only a remote possibility I trust03:35
sorush20I've install jdk03:35
amonkeyXenguy, the werid thing is gkrell says the memory is free and top says it's not, but doesn't say whose using it. i don't think it's a intruder, no significant net traffic03:36
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perdidopunkwell03:36
perdidopunklet's see if alien will install my video drivers and if then X -configure will fix things anyway03:36
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Xenguyamonkey: maybe kill X and check things from the console?03:36
ICE9I'm so sorry guys03:36
perdidopunkbroken pipe03:36
perdidopunkman03:36
ICE9I though iso9960 was an example03:36
amonkeyis there any other app than top that will show me this info?03:36
perdidopunkubuntu just doesn't like any part of my computer03:37
ChrisC_OK, this is not cool.  I have just now experienced the most recent of several severe crashes on my new Ubuntu machine.  Clock freezes, no response to NumLock key, mouse not moving, no response to pings.  Anything else I can check before rebooting, and what should I check AFTER rebooting?03:37
Xenguyamonkey: what does 'free' say?03:37
intelikeyICE9 i said that -t was superflutious anyway....03:37
amonkey35000k03:37
perdidopunkis anybody here using the ati linux drivers for radeon cards ???03:37
amonkeyXenguy, used is 1500000k03:37
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mcjerryChrisC_ do you have a cdrom or dvd mounted?03:38
Xenguyamonkey: and/or maybe memstat03:38
ChrisC_nope03:38
ICE9yeah -t -a is but you actually need the filesystem name03:38
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ICE9I didn't know that03:38
mcjerryCan anyone help me with LIRC?03:38
frank23perdidopunk: did you try editing xorg.conf and using vesa as the driver?03:38
Xenguyamonkey: how much RAM do you have?03:38
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perdidopunkwhat is initrd-tools for ?03:38
mcjerryChrisC_ have you looked in terminal to see what processes are running and killall one by one03:38
perdidopunkcan i remove that ?03:38
merlydoes apt-get get source and compile, or binary packages?03:38
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intelikeyfilesystem name ?   file name ?    yes but not the fstype03:39
mustard5ChrisC_, you checked the forums for any similar problems?03:39
ChrisC_mcjerry: how to get to terminal? :)03:39
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frank23merly: it gets binary packages03:39
VasionCan someone tell me a VALID sources.list file for breezy so I can upgrade from hoary? The one on the wiki sucks/doesnt work.03:39
XenguyChrisC_: Ctrl-Alt F2  :-)03:39
mcjerryChrisC_, ubuntu ... gnome?03:39
mustard5!sources03:39
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic03:39
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ChrisC_Xenguy, mcjerry:  it's dead, no mouse, keyboard, ping ...03:39
merlyfrank - how long would it gake me to apt-get x.org or whatever the name of the package is?03:39
nadia007anyone setup jinzora with msql 2000?03:40
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merlyi'm new, and thinking of dropping debian03:40
merlyi mean dropping gentoo03:40
Vasiondo it03:40
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ChrisC_just wondering if there's anyhting else I can try before rebooting, and what I should look at AFTER I reboot (some sort of dump/panic record?)03:40
mcjerryChrisC_ have you tried Ctrl-Alt-BackSpace to restart X session?03:40
ChrisC_hold on03:40
perdidopunkcan i force apt-get to look in a specific place for a package ?03:40
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intelikey"<ChrisC_> mcjerry: how to get to terminal? :)"  ---  "<Xenguy> ChrisC_: Ctrl-Alt F2  :-)"  <--- not a terminal.   that is a console.03:41
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Xenguyintelikey: oops  =)03:41
Vasion_!sources03:41
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic03:41
mcjerryinelikey......sho u right03:41
perdidopunkanybody ?03:41
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mcjerryintelikey I am used to shelling in from another pc so I forget some can't03:42
ChrisC_intelikey: doesn't matter, nothing works; Ctrl-Alt-Backspace doesn't work; OK, so what should I check after rebooting?  This is bad.03:42
amonkeyXenguy, gig and a half, which is why i'm wondering who took it all03:42
amonkeyXenguy, i shouldn't be touching the swap03:42
Urthmoveranyone know how to make a fat32 partition visible?03:43
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intelikeyChrisC_ nothing works ?   can you give me more to work with please03:43
GMachine_24Someone told me that in order to run a program under my user name I have to do this: "sudo adduser" and then "username disk". When I do this I get a message that "disk already exists". Can anyone help me?03:43
ChrisC_intelikey: hold on, I'll repost ...03:43
intelikeyUrthmover mount them03:43
Kyralqt2: sorry I stepped out03:43
ChrisC_[repost]  OK, this is not cool.  I have just now experienced the most recent of several severe crashes on my new Ubuntu machine.  Clock freezes, no response to NumLock key, mouse not moving, no response to pings.  Anything else I can check before rebooting, and what should I check AFTER rebooting?03:43
Urthmoverok I'mm man mount then thx intel03:44
Xenguyamonkey: 1.5 Gb?! It is crazy that it is all used (if it really is).  If it were me I would reboot and re-check03:44
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intelikeyUrthmover use 'sudo fdisk -l '  to find addresses then 'sudo mount <address> <mount/point> '03:44
amonkeyXenguy, free -m confirms what top i saying. this is a constant problem, though i can't identify when it started03:44
mcjerryChrisC_ do you have another pc on the network you can use to vt in03:44
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pizzathiefmy laptop freezes at random intervals if apm is on03:44
ChrisC_mcjerry: NO PING REPONSE :)03:45
Xenguyamonkey: other than my last advice, I don't know what to say - that is totally insane03:45
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mcjerryouch03:45
mcjerrywhat cpu?03:45
ChrisC_OK, let's move on .. what should I check after rebooting it?  dump/panic/log files?  where exactly?03:45
intelikeyChrisC_ EEEK!  boot to single  and see if it can even run in single mode.03:45
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kiesohi all03:45
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amonkeyXenguy, thanks.03:46
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kiesoi need help03:46
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ChrisC_intelikey: I should note, it worked for days and then just crashed, so I ahve no doubt that I'll be able to reboot into normal runlevel03:46
frogzooChrisC_: check /var/log/messages just prior to reboot03:46
mcjerryChrisC_ look through /var/logs and review .0 logs03:46
mcjerryafter reboot03:47
ChrisC_frogzoo: can't, it's dead, will have to be after reboot03:47
intelikeyChrisC_ last line of files in /var/log    tac /var/log/* | grep -m2 -ie [a-z]     maybe.03:47
sorush20hi anyone here from the UK?03:47
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frogzooChrisC_: thats cool - it's not going anywhere03:47
mcjerrysorry ChrisC_03:47
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kiesodoes anyone know where or how i can enable ubuntu so that it can play dvd movies without that error03:47
mcjerryso one more time, can anyone help me with MCE remote and LIRC03:48
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ChrisC_intelikey: is tac a fancy cat03:48
lightbrightkieso: yes thats possible03:48
intelikeymcjerry not i mate.  sorry.03:48
kiesothanks lightbright03:48
intelikeyChrisC_ yessir  it starts at the bottom03:49
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lightbrightkieso: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html03:49
lightbrightkieso: follow the intructions on that webpage exactly as is03:49
kiesoawesome!03:49
kiesothanks03:49
mcjerrynp, i gotta say though, never had a software related issue force me to reboot ubuntu03:49
lightbrightkieso: welcome :)03:49
ChrisC_intelikey: gotcha, thanks03:49
psycodeIs there a non-graphical way to burn a dvd image/data? (I'm having problems running X and I really need to burn something..)03:49
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_tccAnyone program perl here?03:50
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_tccor use CPAN?03:50
sammy76i need to install grub to the root partition instead of it overwriting the boot manager I have, is there anyway to do this03:50
_tccI cannot get CPAN to install modules.03:50
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psycode_tcc, #perl03:50
_tccno i was told to come here03:50
mcjerryis there a LIRC channel?03:50
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intelikeypsycode yes there is.   unfortunately i don't have a dvd player and thus havent learned the command yet.03:51
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psycodeintelikey, do you know the name of the program?03:51
intelikeyno.03:51
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intelikeydv[tab]   and man anything that looks suspicious  :)03:52
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mcjerryintelikey, ChrisC_ .... later, hope you get the prob resolved......those symptoms sound heat related...... I'd also run memtest to be sure no memory prob.03:52
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xfreeis there on gnome-look or on gnome-art any theme based on cairo ?03:52
intelikeymcjerry or loose connection maybe even.03:53
mustard5psycode, dvdrtools is one I think03:53
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mcjerryyup03:53
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mustard5psycode, and another is dvd+rw-tools03:53
intelikeytake care.03:53
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psycodemustard5, thanks i'll try apt-getting it03:54
mustard5psycode, another is mkisofs03:54
ShadyI just installed network-manager, and it's not showing up in appications. Is there a process I missed?03:54
mustard5psycode, I don't know what any of them do though :)03:54
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psycode:P03:54
intelikeymustard5 does mkisofs now fully support dvd's ?03:54
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mustard5intelikey, synaptics says something about DVD's in the description..thats all I know03:55
_tccSo anyone know why CPAN can never run make?03:55
intelikeyk03:55
_tccI  need a module!03:55
intelikey_tcc you have build-essential installed ?03:56
cafuegowoot03:56
ShadyHelp network manager isn't working. I've installed it using synaptic, but it doesn't show up in applications, is there a process I missed?03:56
Siph0nneone have issues with a NEC burner burning slower than its suppose to ? or any dvd burner burning slower in linux than in windows?03:56
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_tccintelikey: I may be able to download the module manually.03:57
_tccbrb03:57
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_tccwhere the hell is my make install?03:57
mustard5_tcc, in build-essential03:58
intelikey!b-e03:58
ubotuIf you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to apt-get install build-essential.03:58
intelikey!build-essential03:58
ubotuintelikey: Are you on ritalin?03:58
intelikey!botsmack03:58
ubotuintelikey: What?03:58
qt2hm, just finished my first edit ever of a wiki, someone wanna make sure i didnt screw up too badly? ;)03:59
_tccwow i never even had make....03:59
_tcc..............03:59
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sorush20no ops here right?04:00
intelikey_tcc that's what i asked ^ up there.04:00
mustard5qt2 whats the link?04:00
calcanyone know how to get xinerama working in gnome?04:00
calcgdm is showing up right but gnome is still showing as cloned04:00
sorush20guys I just wanted to find out if there are any farms I can but direct form?04:00
mrkojedoes anyone know of a deb for freevo?04:00
dipanyone have experiece with cyberpowerpc.com or ibuypower.com ?? which would you buy from ?04:00
Kyral!find freevo04:00
ShadyAm I supposed to do something to the file after I get it off of synaptic?04:00
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KyralShady: it installs it for you04:01
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intelikeysorush20 there are ops lurking04:01
qt2mustard5, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats i added the "symptoms" subheading of flash issues > sound, and i rearranged flash issues > sound > possible fixes to make more sense.04:01
sorush20I just wanted to ask a general question related to freeness04:01
Kyraldip: I'd buy the parts from Newegg and put it together04:01
ShadyKyral, It has for some programs but it won't for Network manager.04:01
mrkoje!freevo04:01
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, mrkoje04:01
pbransfordanyone know about using the scanner on HP officejet all-in-one printers over network?04:02
mrkoje!find freevo04:02
nowisncan someone help me connect to the internet through a linksys laptop card04:02
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sorush20any one here form london know where I can but lots of veg chaply from the farm?04:02
nowisnpcmcia04:02
ubotuUbuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'freevo' returned no results.04:02
pbransfordi can print fine, don't care about "Instant Share". but scanning would be helpful04:02
intelikeysorush20 is that the same as saying 'i just wanted to troll a bit' ?04:02
leather_n_luv!find mc04:02
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oblibHow do I map drive from one Ubuntu computer to another?04:02
sorush20troll?04:02
intelikeynm04:02
mrkojepbransford... have you tried xsane04:02
ShadyAnyone have synaptic NOT install a program for them before?04:03
cafuegosorush20: Markets04:03
ubotuUbuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'freevo' returned no results.04:03
mrkojeoblib.. you need to "mount" the share on one ubunto machine to te other.... thats essentially mapping in widows speak04:03
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oblibShady, there are thousands of programs Synaptic hasn't installed on my computer yet04:03
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sorush20any good markets in london04:03
cafuegosorush20: Look it up on google.04:03
Kyralsorush20: This is a channel for Ubuntu Supprot04:03
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oblibmrkoje, how do I address it?04:03
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mrkojeit needs to be shared04:04
Kyralsorush20: if you must, ask in #ubuntu-offtopic04:04
rightcoast???04:04
rightcoastheh04:04
zukaOh yes great markets04:04
sorush20Kyral: sorry04:04
Shadyoblib, right, but I specifically d/l'ed the program and it isnt' showing up in the apps. menu.04:04
VR^where can i get the default sources.list? i didn't backup :X04:04
pbransfordmrkoje, no. can xsane do networked scanning?04:04
mrkojesudo mount -t //222.222.222.222/share  /folder/tomountin04:04
oblibShady, that's typical -- not all progs have built in shortcuts. What program?04:04
Kyral!easysources04:05
ubotuKyral: I haven't a clue04:05
Kyral!easysource04:05
ubotuwell, easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic04:05
pbransfordmrkoje, it just says "no scanners available" doesn't give me the choice to specify04:05
oblibthat's what I'm looking for mrkoje, thatks04:05
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Shadyoblib, network-manager04:05
shanonxIf i have xmms as a .tar how do I install it?04:05
mustard5qt2, looks good to me on a casual perusal :)04:05
intelikeyVR^ methinks you can  sudo rm /apt/sources.list ;sudo dpkg-reconfigure apt04:05
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nifelsekii have a dlink g132 wireless usb adapter.. how do i get it working in ubuntu..?04:06
zukaany sound to x-chat, new user, thanks04:06
mrkojeoblib: I think as long as your using ubuntu to ubuntu... provided that your folders are listed in the nfs config... then you should be able to mount them just fine...i think04:06
d03boyanyone use synergy? where do I put my conf file04:06
mrkojed03boy... Im using it04:06
oblibShady, Applications -> System Tools -> Applications Menu Editor will let you make new icons on your menu04:06
oblibthe command to run it is probably just 'network-manager' I've never used that one before though04:06
Urthmoverwhat command will show me available space on a mount point?04:07
oblibmrkoje, nfs config?04:07
KyralUrthmover: df -h04:07
Urthmoverthx04:07
intelikeyshanonx you delete the tarball  and use apt-get install blah     or synaptic the gui package manager, being a noobee  :)04:07
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Shadyoblib, alright, I'll try it out. Thanks04:07
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qt2mustard5, thanks, i tried my best to make it not suck ^.^;04:07
Urthmoverwell I made a mount point ..... how do I make sure it does it everytime I reboot?04:07
mrkojeoblib: Im pretty sure that you need to have nfs service running first.... "network file sharing" there is a text file that you need to add a path for your shares in.04:08
Hatred[2] hey guys I'm using xfree86, "savage" video driver and DRI isn't working. the dri module loads successfully, I have sufficient permissions to access /dev/dri/card0, but glxinfo says that dri isn't enabled. I noticed there's no savage_dri.so in the xfree libs. do I need to do something special, or should i just update to xorg?04:08
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oblibmrkoje, when I try to mount it like that, it tried to samba it04:08
qt2mustard5, considering the large amount of traffic the restrictedformats page gets. ;)04:08
mustard5qt2, heh yeah04:08
mrkojeoblib:  try   sudo mount -t cifs04:08
bsimsok this isn't in the FAQ, why the blessed Hell did (k)ubuntu not enable a root account, and disable the CUPS webservice?04:08
mrkojeI don't know why but that works04:08
navaroneshanonx, if it's available in binary at repo...install that way. If you have to compile from tar sources you can get frustrated beyond belief if luck is not on your side...and wind is at the back...and so on...<s>04:08
mrkojefor me04:08
d03boymrkoje, so... where do I put the conf file :P04:09
qt2mustard5, figured i'd add in the symotoms for others, considering i spent the better part of todaty figuring out the problem :P04:09
VR^intelikey: no, that didn't work04:09
VR^intelikey: now i don't have a sources.list anymore04:09
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Shadyoblib, tried it and the programs aren04:09
VR^:\04:09
mrkojed03boy: where did you install synergy?04:09
leather_n_luvis there any reason why synaptic doesn't automount the cdrom?04:09
mrkojed03boy: or was it from apt-get?04:09
d03boymrkoje, I dont know... I used the debian apt-get04:09
mustard5qt2, yes..I'm sure it will be helpful...thats what wikis are for anyway :)04:09
intelikey!repos04:09
ubotuwell, repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource04:09
d03boymrkoje, actually I installed it on my debian laptop if that matters04:09
mrkojed03boy: are you creating a server conf...  ?04:09
d03boyno04:10
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d03boywindows = server04:10
Shadyoblib, sorry laptop, close keys. But I tried it and it didn't show up either. where would I find the command files, I'm rather new to this file system (got linux 3 days ago)04:10
intelikeyVR^ for your distros sources use ^04:10
mrkojed03boy oh great... I don't think you even need to have a conf file.04:10
russell__looking for some help getting a usb zd1211u driver working04:10
d03boyok04:10
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d03boymrkoje, i'll try it then04:10
mrkojed03boy:  I think all you will need to do is run:   synergyc 192.168.xx.xx04:10
oblibShady, easiest way is to look in synaptic and you can find the files that it installed04:10
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d03boyk04:11
russell__I have it loaded with ndiswrapper but still not able to see the device in network settings04:11
mrkojeto what ever your server is... you need to run the synergyc  "client" from your laptop... you need to have the windows machine running the server first...04:11
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VR^intelikey: i got it, nevermind04:11
VR^intelikey: thanks!04:11
_chanihello. i was wondering how i can install the "make" package without a cd?04:11
oblibShady, sorry did you mean it didn't show up in your applications menu?04:11
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Shadyoblib, right, it doesn't show up in my applications menu, and I don't know what these new file extensions mean.04:12
intelikeyVR^ can i ask if there was an error message from the dpkg-reconfigure apt   command ?04:12
dooglus___chani: disable the cd source if you don't have the CD04:12
VR^intelikey: no error, no04:12
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VR^intelikey: just nothing happened04:12
_chanidooglus__: from synaptic?04:12
dooglus___chani: yes.04:12
_chanity04:12
intelikeyand you are on breezy ?04:12
_tccls04:12
VR^intelikey: yep04:13
nowisncan someone help me to get ubuntu to recognize my eth0 network card?04:13
_tccoh not a term sry04:13
_tcclol04:13
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dooglus___chani: or edit /etc/apt/sources.list directly if you prefer.  "sudo gedit /etc/apt/source.list"04:13
intelikeyhmmmm04:13
oblibShady, so you did "New Entry" in the subsection you wanted? And then what?04:13
nifelsekihi guys.. problem.. i just installed ubuntu.. i have a dlink g132 wireless usb adapter.. how do i get it working..?04:13
dooglus___chani: I missed an 's'04:13
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Razor-Xnifelseki: you have a model slightly better than mine04:14
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intelikey!wifi04:14
ubotuwifi is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto04:14
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shanonxis there a way to setup XMMS so that it will always be the "default player for mp3's"?04:14
yurihello, just a wuick question: when I mount a drive it shows up on my desktop as an icon. How do I prevent the icon from showing?04:14
VR^i just pasted this into /etc/apt/ and it works04:14
yuriquick*04:14
nifelsekithe g122 performs just as well04:14
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Razor-Xnifelseki: you can try your hand at the rlink2570 drivers that seem to work famously for some people, but don't work for others (like me), or you can use ndiswrapper04:14
acidmoonhello04:14
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d03boyomfg, this is awesome!04:14
acidmoonhas anyone here used debian ?04:14
Razor-Xacidmoon: many, I imagine04:14
dooglus__yuri: I uninstalled the nautilus package.  that fixed it for me, but may be too big a step for you04:14
markasdfa04:14
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yuridooglus_: its too much to bother tu uninstall nautilus04:15
FlashmattI have a BIG problem guys/gals where can I paste my output online for display purposes04:15
Flashmatt?04:15
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xspadespastebin.com04:15
dooglus__yuri: it's one command04:15
Hatred[2] hey guys I'm using xfree86, "savage" video driver and DRI isn't working. the dri module loads successfully, I have sufficient permissions to access /dev/dri/card0, but glxinfo says that dri isn't enabled. I noticed there's no savage_dri.so in the xfree libs. do I need to do something special, or should i just update to xorg?04:15
intelikeyacidmoon yes, and technically you are using a varient of it now.04:15
Razor-X!ndiswrapper04:15
ubotusomebody said ndiswrapper was a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper04:15
mrkojed03boy I guess you got it working?04:15
yuridooglus_: but its also my filebrowser...04:15
brettI assigned a keyboard shortcut to do volume up and volume down and it isn't changing the volume on the right mixer, where can i change that?04:15
dooglus__yuri: fair enough.04:15
d03boymrkoje, yes, thanks04:16
nifelsekithanks guys.. i'll look into it04:16
pbransfordarg. freaking firefox needs to stop hanging while waiting DNS replies04:16
mrkojed03boy: I really like the synergy app.... makes my life better :)04:16
intelikey!start a distro war04:16
ubotuI haven't a clue, intelikey04:16
Flashmattthanks04:16
d03boymine too now :P04:16
_chanidooglus__: thanks. i got it04:16
intelikey!start an editor war04:16
ubotuvim is better than xemacs.04:16
nowisnYo guys why is kubuntu not recognizing my linksys lappy card?04:16
dooglus___chani: what's the answer?04:16
navaroneyuri> Use Applications/Systemtools/Config Editor...Apps/Nautilus//Desktop...uncheck "make volumes visible" and drive icons should disappear04:17
dabaRshanonx: did you figure it out?04:17
dooglus___chani: sorry. I was mixing you up with yuri :)04:17
navaroneyuri...at least from desktop04:17
Razor-Xjust for all of you out there who don't know what tab-complete is: type in the first few letters of a person's name and hit TAB to have it auto-complete, just a friendly reminder :)04:18
_chanidooglus__: heh. i was kinda wondering what the question was..04:18
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XenguyHas anyone here used 'tsclient'?  I'm wondering if it is able to serve as a client for citrix also?04:18
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dabaRnowisn: the manufacturer did not release specs, and you did not install the windows drivers using ndiswrapper, perhaps?04:19
dooglus__Razor-X: where do you mean to type the person's name?04:19
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Razor-Xdooglus__: in IRC, rather04:19
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dooglus__Razor-X: oh, I see :)04:19
mrkojedabaR, was it you I got into a fight with about iptables not being run by default on ubuntu?04:19
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nowisnno I didn't install anything yet04:20
shanonxdabaR: yes thank you04:20
intelikeyrazor-X  you could have mentioned that tab-completion works in console/terminal also  :)04:20
dabaRmrkoje: I dont get into fights over things like that.04:20
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mrkojedabaR, ok.. lol04:20
Razor-Xintelikey: bah, it was just for the number of people who didn't seem to be using tab-complete04:20
dabaRmrkoje: If I know something for a fact, then I dont get into a fight over it.04:20
dabaRmrkoje: beliefs, opinions, sometimes.04:20
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dooglus__intelikey: especially if you uncomment the lines in ~/.bashrc about 'completion' - it gets a lot smarter if you do that.04:21
intelikeyexactly my point razor-x04:21
Razor-Xnow... if someone wants to help me with Japanese, I would appreciate it if you hopped on over to #ubuntu-offtopic and gave me a discourse, but I'll take my leave04:21
dabaRwhy are they not uncomented by dwefault?>04:21
guido_This may be the most amusing thing you all hear ALL day... I am relatively new to Linux and bash, but i know enough to get in trouble.. i wanted to ADD permissions to my /etc folder, so I did a chmod, but instead of increasing, i chmodd'd to 700.... and locked myself out of my own /etc file.. my face became white as could be.. luckily, i'm not SO dumb that i remembered the recovery console.. but what a hoot!04:21
nowisnI'm a total newbie at this and tryed to get my connection through kppp dialup but my modem will not be recognized so i thought i'd plug in my pcmcia linksys card in my lappy and connect it to my dsl router04:21
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mrkojewatashi wah nihongo ga skoshi wakadimas04:22
intelikeydooglus__ but of course,  hehhe lets not have them rebuild the whole system just yet though  :)04:22
guido_two line limit.04:22
Razor-Xdooglus__: BASH has smart tab completion, I'm surprised04:22
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mrkojethats my attempt at horrible romanji04:22
dooglus__Razor-X: it's programmable04:22
guido_crap. i was telling my HILARIOUS adventure.04:22
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Razor-Xmrkoje: I was looking for you04:22
dabaRnowisn: do "ifconfig" in a terminal, tell us what you see there.04:22
monkievoxhowdy all!  how can i tell from command line what version of kernal i have?04:22
mrkojeRazor-X, I am affraid thats all I know... i did live in Japan for three years though04:22
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Razor-Xmrkoje: I'm a bit better, but not too much, at romaji (or roomaji, or romanji, whatever the hell you call it)04:22
Falstiusmonkievox: uname04:22
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monkievoxfalstius: danke!04:23
guido_FUNNY STORY: i am an idiot. i sudo chmodd'd my /etc folder to 700... i learned a valuable lesson.. .don't do that. hah!04:23
Falstiusmonkievox: bitte.04:23
nowisnhow do i type that in correctly04:23
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dooglus__guido_: the lesson is to use letters instead of numbers when using chmod04:23
Flashmatt22i don't know what that means, but it sounds funny!04:23
Flashmatt22actually, I do04:24
dabaRnowisn: "ifconfig" (with fingers)_04:24
dooglus__guido_: do a "chmod g+w" for instance to give Write to the Group04:24
intelikeyguido_ i see you learn by the trial and reformat method also  :)04:24
guido_oh wow.. i was memorizing the numbers.. i wasn't aware chmod would accept letters... as i said.. i'm a foolish boy.. but it was SO fun..04:24
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guido_actually, i was able to change it in the recovery console.. i wasn't gonna give this perfect install up!04:24
fulldon a new install I get 80% Xorg usage on an idle system04:24
fulldany clues?04:25
mrkojeguido_,  rwxrwxrwx.... somthing like that04:25
fulld*cpu usage04:25
mrkojeowner, group, user isn't it?04:25
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intelikeyguido_  type  "man man "   in a terminal04:25
nowisnsays: (sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname)04:25
dabaRowner group everybody04:25
Ophiocusowner group other04:25
guido_Flash: I told my computer not to let me in to the files... everything came to a grinding halt..04:25
dabaRaka, owner group crackers04:25
leather_n_luvlol04:26
intelikeyhehhe  owner group world   :)04:26
Flashmatt22ohhhhh!!!04:26
guido_yah.. i know how to learn how to do things right, but it's so much more fun to plunge into murky water...04:26
mrkojeright... owner group users04:26
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Flashmatt22totally didn't see the "00" part of "700"!!!04:26
mustard5nowisn, sounds like you need to fix up your /etc/hosts file04:26
KyralOwner Group Othert04:26
ma5terdphay can anyone help me still haveing troubless!!!04:26
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ma5terdphay kyral i got a drive mounted but filesystem is read only how do i change it?04:26
mrkojema5terdp,  what troubles?04:26
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acidmoondo you have multiple os's ?04:27
Ophiocusif filesystem is ntfs, you cant04:27
dooglus__Kyral: User Group Others is a better way to think of it - then you'll remember the letters to use ugo+rwx...04:27
ma5terdpits hfsplus04:27
acidmoonright Ophiocus04:27
mlv2005good day can i install an autocad here at ubuntu04:27
intelikeymount -o remount,rw </mount/point>04:27
nowisnyeah okay, holly crap i really don't know what i'm doing04:27
Kyraldooglus__: I actually prefer the Number system04:27
nowisnhow do i do that04:27
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dooglus__Kyral: me too04:27
acidmoonyou may need to create a new partition and install again ma5terdp04:27
ma5terdpr u talkin to me intelikey04:27
Flashmatt22ok friends, I'm having a BIG problem with getting WEP to work with a WMP11v4 linksys wireless card!!!04:27
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dabaRnowisn: do you know how to open a terminal, konsole, you use kde?04:27
Flashmatt22anyone get one of these working???04:28
dooglus__Kyral: chmod didn't used to accept letters when I first started using it...04:28
mlv2005can anybody help me can i install the autocad here at ubuntu04:28
ma5terdpi know the users name and password of filesystem cant i somehow log on it04:28
leather_n_luvma5terdp, there are tools to download for ntfs. search for 'ntfs' in synaptic...04:28
nowisnyeah its open04:28
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ma5terdpits not ntfs04:28
ma5terdpits hfs+04:28
nowisnnot stupid04:28
intelikeyyes  but i don't have all the info on your system ma5terdp04:28
dabaRnowisn: type "ifconfig" hit enter.04:28
Flashmatt22I'm completely out of ideas...the boards are helpful...to an extent04:28
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mrkojemlv2005,  you need to search for an autocad program on somthing like sourceforge or freshmeat04:28
ma5terdpok intellikey its a mac osx04:28
proxosican somone guide me on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9010604:28
nowisndon't get anything when i type that04:29
mlv2005what do you mean mrkoje04:29
leather_n_luvma5terdp, oh, sorry.  what os is it?04:29
ma5terdpits /dev/hda2/ i got it mounted to /media/mac04:29
dabaRnowisn: ok.04:29
intelikeyma5terdp you asked how to make a fs mounted ro rw so i gave the command.04:29
XenguyOK, a different question, has anyone here had luck installing a working citrix client on breezy/ubuntu ?04:29
leather_n_luv(damn i type slow04:29
shanonxcan someone show me an example of how to change the permissions on a file?04:29
leather_n_luv)04:29
dabaRshanonx: man chmod04:29
Xenguyshanonx: chmod 700 directory04:29
Kyralshanonx: I think my Terminal FOr Beginners lays it out04:29
KyralXenguy: NO!!!04:29
Xenguyshanonx: chmod 600 file04:29
XenguyKyral: no what?04:29
KyralXenguy: Not that setup lol04:29
ma5terdpcan u change permissions on a mount hda?04:30
mrkojemlv2005, http://www.sourceforge.net  or http://www.freshmeat.net04:30
wijchmod -R -v 757 /home/user/myfile04:30
XenguyKyral: are you on crack?04:30
shanonxKyral: yea Im looking at it but the tutoral doesnt really show a command example.04:30
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intelikeyshanonx 'man chmod '       example  'chmod 600 .bashrc '04:30
Kyralshanonx: It doesn't?04:30
Kyralshanonx: Hmm I should add one lol04:30
Falstiusma5terdp: yes, mount -t hfs -o remount,rw /dev/hda /mnt/spot04:30
Kyralshanonx: I thought I put one in04:30
shanonxkyral: it shows the number and breaks it down like... 750.. but no actual command line example.04:30
Falstiusbut I don't know if there is hfs write support04:30
guido_this is great.. this is the night of permissions!04:31
Kyralshanonx: Gmm I'll take care of it04:31
Kyralgimme a sec mkay?04:31
oblibHow do I map drive from one Ubuntu computer to another?04:31
nowisnmustard how do i change or configure the /etc/hosts04:31
oblibmrkoje, I don't get nfs04:31
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guido_shanon-- i just had my own exciting experience with chmod tonight.. be careful what you change!!!04:32
shanonxkyral: when I use this " sudo chmod -r -v 770 Backup04:32
shanonx" I get an error.. is it wrong?04:32
ULffuntuhi, does anybody here use webmin & xinetd?04:32
Falstiusshanonx: -R not -r04:32
ma5terdpok will that give me a non readonly filesystem hd?04:32
Kyralshanonx: and conbine the -r -v into -rv04:32
nowisnyes I've installed the kubuntu distro with KDE04:32
shanonxoh04:32
intelikeyshanonx everything *nix is case sensitive04:32
dabaRnowisn: it has a man entry, if you feel like reading. man /etc/hosts04:33
navaroneguido...dpkg reconfgiure x server thingy blew me out of the water tonight...sudo cp is handy command to have04:33
shanonxintelikey: yea so im slowly seeing :)04:33
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shanonxI really thank all you guys for your help.04:33
navaroneguido> I was trying to reconfigure to give myself refresh options for monitor. Things went bad...:)04:34
guido_do you have to sudo to run the configurator? i guess you would.. i tend to get to lazy and start sudo'ing everything... gets me in trouble!04:34
Falstiusma5terdp: what I wrote?  It should, if there is write support for it.04:34
ma5terdpok quick question.... it says i am not owner so i cant04:34
Falstiusma5terdp: use sudo04:34
FalstiusI am always forgetting to include sudo in my example commands.04:34
navaroneguido>had to fix mouse then eventually simply cp'ed backup to default one...phew04:34
ShadyI need a little guidance, synaptic says I have a program installed but it isn't in my applications menu, how do I put it there, where do I look?04:34
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dabaRwow, eminem uses Ubuntu04:35
FalstiusShady, you can right click on "Applications" and select edit menu.04:35
guido_duh04:35
proxosican somebody guide me http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9010604:35
intelikeyshanonx actually   -R and 7 are not really such a good idea.  that makes all files executable.    dirs need to be executable but  html and other document files being executed may (and likely) cause problems.04:35
guido_slimshadybuntu04:35
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proxosiguido_lol04:35
FalstiusShady: Then you have to find the program, it is probably  in /usr/bin04:35
ma5terdpis there a way i can enter a name and password of owner of filesystem on mount???04:35
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dabaRFalstius: no, you need to ask, what program shady?04:36
nowisngot 127.0.0.1 localhost in the terminal04:36
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shanonxinetlikey: oh... hmm... fixing this might be time consuming now...04:36
dabaRnowisn: for what?04:36
ShadydabaR, it's network manager.04:36
dabaRShady: what is the package called in synaptic?04:36
Kyralshanonx: check now04:37
nowisnthats all it says04:37
Shadynetwork-manager04:37
guido_to self: must stay and read ubuntu chat room... must not sleep... no need to go to work in the morning.... snow will come... must not fall asle...........04:37
mlv2005what is iptables can anybody explain04:37
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Falstiusma5terdp: why do you need a user and password?04:37
ajmitchguido_: why read stuff here? sleep is good :)04:37
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dabaRShady: well, do you have smeg installed?04:37
intelikeyshanonx this might help04:37
Falstiusmlv2005: iptables lists and sets the rules for the firewall.04:37
sdafjdifhey can anyone help me out04:38
mlv2005oh i see where can i dowload a tutorial about it04:38
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sdafjdifi tried to install inux04:38
sdafjdif*Ubuntu04:38
ShadydabaR, using it right now.04:38
sdafjdifi got a debootstrap error04:38
sdafjdifi had to abort04:38
sdafjdifand now when i turn on my computer04:38
sdafjdifit won't boot to windows04:38
sdafjdifor linux04:38
Falstiusmlv2005: search on google for howto iptable04:38
sdafjdifbut just a black screen04:38
dabaRShady: are you able to add an entry yet?04:38
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fr500hello04:38
joedjhey folks, i'm using kubuntu, why does it beep after i hold shift for 4sec or so?04:38
guido_ajwitch> this is my new soap opera... if i miss something i'll never be able to live with myself.. but if i don't sleep all those poor kids won't get their goofy guidance man tomorrow ... what a conundrubuntum.04:38
fr500has anyone followed the gdm vnc guide04:38
fr500it doesn't work for me :(04:39
dabaRsdafjdif: yes, it all got borked up, and the boot sector is screwed. repair mbr for windows, or try reinstalling Ubuntu.04:39
ajmitchguido_: this channel isn't nearly as interesting as some of the others04:39
sdafjdifdabar, how would i do that04:39
intelikeyjoedj loading the key buffer maybe ?04:39
guido_aj: this is my first taste of the crack.. i'll go more hard core one day04:39
joedjintelikey: loading the key buffer?04:40
ShadydabaR, I don't know what i'm look for truthfully. I've been on linux 3 days04:40
Falstiussdafjdif: find a windows98 boot disk (you can get them off the web), boot it and type fdisk /mbr04:40
intelikeyjoedj like holding any other key...04:40
dabaRsdafjdif: the first option? I dont know, I dont use windows any more, and the only time I had to do it, I decided not to, and reinstalled windows.(I had separate partitions for data and programs.04:40
alekzanyonw knows a package to mix music ?04:40
proxosiwould renaming winamp skins to xmms extension.. will make it compatible with xmms?04:40
joedjintelikey: ah. no, i don't think it's that, KDE actually plays some weird sound file04:40
ULffuntumlv2005: what was your question?04:40
dabaRShady: you have smeg open?04:40
guido_wouldn't you try fixmbr before you fdisked? or am i not paying close enought attn?04:40
intelikeyalekz audacity04:40
sdafjdifwell i've got a Windows XP System Restore CD04:40
ma5terdpok listen quick question people04:41
alekzintelikey, easy to use ?04:41
sdafjdifhow would i get to the command prompt?04:41
Falstiusalekz: there was a nice review on ArsTechnica a few weeks back comparing different music mastering software packages.04:41
dabaRalekz: a program with two turntables and a mixer?04:41
ma5terdphere is what i am using to mount i think it wrong04:41
Falstiussdafjdif: that won't do it.  you'll probably just destroy the system with it.04:41
ShadydabaR, yeah04:41
sdafjdifoh04:41
alekzyes dabaR xD04:41
dabaRsdafjdif: select to repair installation.04:41
Falstiusbeware the XP recovery CD.04:41
ma5terdpsudo mount /dev/hda2 -t hfsplus /media/mac04:41
ma5terdpis there a way to make it so its not just a read only04:41
intelikeyalekz i don't do much multimedia so i really aint the one to ask...04:41
FalstiusdabaR: every time I've done that it made the system virtually unusable or borked the registry.04:42
sdafjdifrepair installation in the Ubuntu CD?04:42
sdafjdifi'm not really worried about getting ubuntu as of now.04:42
sdafjdifi'd like it...but right now, i just want to make sure all my stuff is still there win windows04:42
sdafjdif*in04:42
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nowisnokay i open the shell konsole and i get christopher@ubuntu :~$ ,   then i type ifconfig and it just repeats back to the original above04:43
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ma5terdpanyone???04:43
Falstiussdafjdif: does the computer have a floppy drive?04:43
dabaRalekz: I used mixxx04:43
sdafjdifyes it does04:43
wijip addr04:43
juniorHello everyone.04:43
ULffuntuhi, does anybody here use webmin & xinetd?04:43
alekzdabaR, how cool is it ?04:43
dabaRalekz: it did what I wanted(I wanted to slow down a song.)04:44
juniorjust wondering if there is a nw802 module for ubuntu breezy badger?04:44
shanonxintelikey: so to use that script i need to be in my backup directory?04:44
fr500can i access an ltsp-server from a windows box?04:44
dabaRShady: is there a add button04:44
alekzok dabaR thanks04:44
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intelikeynowisn in linux 'no error message' means 'no error'   and  'no output'  may or may not mean 'nothing done' depending on the command.04:44
Falstiussdafjdif: http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm04:44
Falstiusgo there, download one of those04:44
ma5terdpanyone konw the best way to mount a hda someone told me here funktown and it worked now it wont04:44
intelikeyshanonx yeah04:44
ShadydabaR, yes04:45
juniormount /dev/hda1 /directory04:45
ma5terdpbut i keep gettin a read only filesystem04:45
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intelikeyshanonx set all files 644 or something then run the script to make the dirs right.04:45
shanonxintelikey: what exatly does it do...?04:45
russell__can someone tell me how to use make command? I keep getting command not found04:45
sdafjdifFalstius, which one would i download?04:45
ma5terdpi need it to be rightable be able to move shit04:45
juniorwhat kind of filesystem is it?04:45
ma5terdphfsplus04:45
shanonxintelikey: ok04:45
Falstiussdafjdif: I'm not sure :)  Probably win98 oem04:45
nowisnok04:45
La_PaRCahey guys, im getting an error when I try to run ipodder: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/553404:45
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russell__it is 5.1004:45
ma5terdpfunkytown gave me the correct command and i forgot it it worked once 2 day04:45
dabaRShady: open a terminal, try typing in network-manager04:45
juniorhfsplus? what os uses that?04:46
Falstiussdafjdif: you need one that includes fdisk04:46
ma5terdpmac x os04:46
ledhhey room!04:46
alekzdabaR, you installed from source ?04:46
dabaRalekz: ya, it had some dependencies, I think called jackd.04:46
ledhi wanna know what prog can i use to download music that's not too heavy on my pc...04:46
ShadydabaR, it says not found, but in synaptics it says installed.04:46
FalstiusI don't have a floppy or windows, so not much use for a windows boot disk :)04:46
dabaRShady: that is normal.04:46
Flashmatt22hey, I have the weirdest question ever, does anyone know how to install a Voodoo3 3dfx driver onto ubuntu?04:46
intelikeyshanonx it fixes the directories recursively (actually chmod 777 them)  but leaves the files alone.   you can edit it to something like 751  or 700 or what ever you want......04:46
dooglusledh: ftp is quite lightweight04:47
oblibQuestion: What's a good lightweight X www browser?04:47
russell__I am trying to get driver working for my wlan usb I have the driver but cant use the make command04:47
fr500has anyone followed the gdm vnc guide? doesn't work for me04:47
nomasteryoda|wdillo?04:47
FalstiusFlashmatt22: it isn't automatically supported?04:47
La_PaRCahey guys, im getting an error when I try to run ipodder: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/553404:47
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juniorok, you should do : mount /dev/hda1 -t hfs /directory04:47
Flashmatt22Falstius: well, I can't change the screen resolution from 640, so there must be something wrong04:47
ledhdooglus: how do i download it? :S04:47
patHow do I set a printer to share using Samba?04:47
nomasteryoda|woblib, that was for you.... dillo is pretty good04:47
dooglusledh: it's already installed I think04:47
intelikeyshanonx i one time learned the hard way not to use chmod -R  and wrote that to help recover from blunders like that.04:48
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guido_good bootdisk for NTFS and FAT(32) is Michael Au-Yeung's Pre-installation environment.. i use it for all kinds of stuff.. it's a bootable CD/DVD .. look on a torrent site...04:48
ma5terdphfs dont work hfsplus does04:48
ledhdooglus: in Ubuntu?04:48
dooglusledh: or wget or curl aren't heavy either04:48
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slashx1896Hey all04:48
FalstiusFlashmatt22: ahh. *shrug*04:48
juniorso you do: mount /dev/hda1 -t hfsplus ?04:48
ma5terdpyup n it works04:48
ma5terdpi get a mount but its read only04:48
ledhwhat are the commands to download them?04:48
oblibnomasteryoda, I'll give it a whirl thanks04:48
starscallingeh04:49
starscallingwhats this about a readonly mount?04:49
patHow do I set a printer to share using Samba?04:49
dooglusledh: I think they're all already installed.  otherwise you can use synaptic package manager to get them04:49
Flashmatt22Falstius: I already downloaded some linux rpms...aliened it...then i did dpkg -i blah.deb, do you know what happened?04:49
La_PaRCaWhats the best tool to get podcasts in ubuntu?04:49
Falstiusma5terdp: can you type "mount" and paste the line for the hfsplus drive?04:49
starscallingma5terdp?04:49
intelikeyledh wget ip.file04:49
oblibfr500, what are you trying to do?04:49
starscallingwhat are you mounting?04:49
shanonxintelikey: see... that Backup directory is actually on a drive that is Fat32 .. being shared by my windows and linux partitons... I wanted access to write so that I could add mp3s to it at times.04:49
Flashmatt22Falstius: I'm a newb to debian, I was using Fedora previously04:49
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starscallingFlashmatt22 this is not debian04:49
FalstiusFlashmatt22: aliened drivers?  That's got to be messy.04:49
starscallingthis is ubuntu which is based on debian04:49
fr500oblib: xdmcp over vnc, so i can login from a vnc client for instance04:49
starscallingbut is a valid fork from same :)04:49
Flashmatt22I konw it's not debian04:49
starscallingkay :D04:50
ma5terdpyeah im hreer04:50
Flashmatt22geez, isn't this stuff built on debian??04:50
guido_is "Sarge" the only "official" debian distro?04:50
ma5terdphere04:50
intelikeyshanonx then you waste your time with chmod on fat anyway.   there is no permissions on that fs04:50
Flashmatt22I'm using ubuntu bottom line...so I wasn't supposed to use alien?04:50
starscallingagain its a fork from it so you can usually use debian packages for things you cant get from ubuntu sources04:50
fr500oblib: this04:50
ShadydabaR, any ideas?04:50
fr500http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7663804:50
dooglusguido_: no, there are older debian releases.  woody for example04:50
juniorma5terdp: do you get any errors when you thry to mount it?04:50
ma5terdpi need an extra option in the commmand to make it not and readonly04:50
intelikeyshanonx mount it with umask=0  and you can read/write vfat04:50
ledhit doesn't word04:50
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ma5terdpno errors when i mount it04:50
guido_yah - i just meant.. yeah..04:51
starscalling99% of the time its ok to do04:51
oblibfr500, so it opens a new X session when you vnc in, or to get to the main one you have up already?04:51
ledhwork*04:51
Falstiusma5terdp: have you tried writting to it using sudo?  try "sudo touch /mntpoint/testfile"04:51
ma5terdpit mounts i get it  but cant do anything 2 it04:51
fr500oblib: new one04:51
Flashmatt22Room: where do installed packages go...as in where are their folders located when I install a .deb package?04:51
Falstiusma5terdp: where /mntpoint is whereever you mount it.04:51
intelikeyshanonx example  'sudo mount -o remount,rw,umask=0 backup '04:51
starscallingma5terdp im sorry im catching up but what are you mounting exactly?04:52
dooglusFlashmatt22: they go wherever the package creator wants them to go.   dpkg -L <packagename>    will tell you where04:52
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guido_g'nite all.04:52
oblibfr500, let me know if you figure it out, I've been trying to get that to work for a bit now04:52
DjKriticalis there a teamspeak repostory avaliable for ubuntu?04:52
patHow do I set a printer to share using Samba?04:52
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fr500oblib: that exact guide?04:52
Flashmatt22dooglus: Thanks, which brings me to another question, how do I install rpms without using alien, b/c I guess using alien didn't quite work04:53
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FalstiusFlashmatt22: you should really try to find .deb packages or compile from source.04:53
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oblibfr500, no, I did a server install and was trying to get anything to come up. All I got was a twm session, which isn't very useful. I wanted something lighter than gnome though04:53
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fr500hm04:53
ShadydabaR, Woah what the heck... it started up on its own? is that normal?04:53
patHow do I set a printer to share using Samba?04:54
oblibfr500, where are you stuck? what's it doing?04:54
ledhi wanna know what prog can i use to download music that's not too heavy on my pc...04:54
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Flashmatt22Falstius: Thanks, but I don't have many options, it being a voodoo and everything...04:54
La_PaRCaWhats a good tool to listen to podcasts on ubuntu?04:54
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juniorjust wondering if there is a nw802 module for ubuntu breezy badger?04:54
juniorIt's for my dlink quickcam04:55
FalstiusFlashmatt22: I wouldn't think you'd need rpm based drivers for a voodoo card.  You could probably just tweak the xorg.conf file.04:55
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shanonxintelikey: so should that fix all the damage i did ?04:55
starscallingFlashmatt22 what were u trying to install?04:55
intelikeyshanonx yep04:55
starscallingo:04:55
msimshow do I change the default Xresoultion I've done so for kde but gdm is small04:55
oblibAny nfs experts here? I mounted a share, and it only shares one level of files!04:55
intelikeyshanonx you did no damage to permissions on a vfat fs ,     there are none.04:56
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starscallingmsims gdm uses system default res04:56
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Flashmatt22Falstius:  Where can I find the xorg.conf file?04:56
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starscallingdo  " sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg "04:56
Flashmatt22starscalling: I was trying to get my voodoo3 video card working04:56
starscallingFlashmatt2204:56
FalstiusFlashmatt22: it looks like the voodoo3 can't go above 640x480 with 24bit colors so you need to drop the color depth04:56
starscalling/etc/X11/xorg.conf04:56
intelikeyeverything on vfat is rwxrwxrwx = 777  to linux.04:57
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FalstiusIf you set the color depth to 16bit it should go higher.  Check this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75512.html04:57
Flashmatt22thnx04:57
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patno answer no joy04:57
ardchoillew00t!! My friend told me "the next time Windows crashes, you can install Linux", and Windows crashed04:57
Trilom*Need help*04:57
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ma5terdpgrrr anyone know funktown from in here?04:57
TrilomI am ready to install ubuntu04:57
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Trilombut when i put the disks in they wont self boot04:57
starscalling<dpkg> well, 3dfx is the name of the company who makes the legendary voodoo 3D acceleration cards (see http://www.3dfx.com). There is also /dev/3dfx which is needed for glide support under X <=3.3.6 (see device3dfx-source package). It is not needed for X4, use tdfx instead. now owned by nVida.... time to start buying Matrox  :), or at #3dfx04:57
shanonxintelikey: .. oh i was just curious because after i did that, it would not allow me to view the directories inside.. after i did the 644 I mean.04:57
Trilomive changed the boot order04:57
Flashmatt22wow, they actually have something like that on the forum?04:57
starscallingthats what debian has to say about voodoo04:57
Falstiuser, fmask=11104:58
Trilomand tried 4 different disks04:58
TrilomHelp?04:58
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ma5terdplol04:58
jsubl2La_PaRCa check out ipodder04:58
intelikeyshanonx yeah but all you affected was the mount point.04:58
Flashmatt22thanx everyone04:58
monkievoxtrilom: what machine you installing on?04:58
ma5terdphay falstius u still tehre04:58
La_PaRCajsubl2, im having troubles starting it04:58
FalstiusFlashmatt22: linux folks love old hardware04:58
La_PaRCajsubl2,  hey guys, im getting an error when I try to run ipodder: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/553404:58
intelikeychmod 755 backup and you've fixed it.04:58
Falstiusma5terdp: yes, but there is a very pretty woman who wants me to go to bed soon.04:59
dabaRTrilom: a PC?04:59
starscallingTrilom did you check bios boot options?04:59
fr500oblib: i did evrything, but it doesnt work at all04:59
ma5terdplol i undertsand04:59
Trilomyes starscalling04:59
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oblibfr500, but what does it do? do you have an xsession-errors or anything?04:59
jsubl2La_PaRCa, i am on dapper and i don't get that error04:59
fr500nothing04:59
shanonxintelikey: oh ok.. i couldnt get what you said about mount remount Backup to work, but I got it fixed... used "sudo mount -a" to reload my fstab04:59
starscallingthen like they said what are you installing it on?04:59
fr500oblib: and if i run an nmap at that pc no vnc ports are open04:59
Reload1691anyone know of a good mp3 player for linux?04:59
La_PaRCajsubl2, um04:59
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intelikeyshanonx do you have full access to the files now ?05:00
jsubl2La_PaRCa, but i am not recommending dapper it is unstable05:00
oblibfr500, so vncserver is not running then? Do you have it in the boot process somewhere?05:00
La_PaRCajsubl2, I know :)05:00
La_PaRCajsubl2, any idea?05:01
dabaR.msg ubotu info ipodder05:01
fr500oblib: it starts with xinetd i guess since there is nothing more in the howto05:01
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oblibfr500, is the computer on the same network, or is it going through firewalls/routers?05:01
jsubl2La_PaRCa, no05:01
TrilomHelp anyoen?05:01
hd420help!05:01
fr500oblib: same lan now05:02
Falstiusg'night all05:02
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jsubl2La_PaRCa, it starts for me.. iam trying to get a feed to play05:02
monkievoxTrilom: how old is the machine you are installing on?05:02
hd420apache's being an arsehole05:02
fr500oblib: not that noob :p05:02
dabaRTrilom: is it a PC?05:02
La_PaRCajsubl2, I can see one other post about the same issue on the forum, but no answers05:02
hd420hoary05:02
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oblibfr500, lol. So can you try to start in manually on the server?05:02
ma5terdpanyone help me with an read-only filesystem error i get??/05:03
fr500how?05:03
oblibfr500, or look at processes and see if it's running05:03
hd420erver: 8:02pm % sudo apt-get install apache                  [/usr/local/conf] Reading package lists... DoneBuilding dependency tree... Doneapache is already the newest version.0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 6 not upgraded.1 not fully installed or removed.Need to get 0B of archives.After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.Setting up apache (1.3.33-4ubuntu1) ...dpkg: error processing apache (--configure): sub05:03
fr500i didnt see it05:03
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oblibfr500, ps -e | grep vnc  to look. 'vncserver'05:03
GoldfishMy /etc/resolv.conf file doesn't seem to be resolving anything. I can only get out on the internet by IP address. Router is okay, because my debian stations can get out.05:03
shanonxintelikey: yea i have full access ... but it seemed to make all my text fiels executables too..05:03
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oblibfr500, vncserver by itself should start something05:03
Goldfish/etc/nsswitch.conf looks identical between both machines.05:03
msimsdamn I reconfigured xorg but it still wants to use the huge screen05:03
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dabaRmsims: put refresh rates for you rmonitor manually into the file.05:04
Trilomintel pent 205:04
cdubyahi05:04
jsubl2La_PaRCa, it does work05:04
Trilom448 mb of ram05:04
Trilomdell05:04
shanonxintelike: but everything seems to work ok.. so I guess its good..05:04
Trilomoptiplex05:04
monkievoxTrilom: you'll need to boot from floppy05:04
dabaRTrilom: turn off booting from anything but the cd.05:04
fr500oblib: let me do the whole thing again since i undid everything05:05
Trilomkk05:05
ma5terdpanyone know how to make and non read-only filesystem mount ????????05:05
monkievoxTrilom: is that what you've been trying? or from CD?05:05
shanonxintelike: But Time for bed, for me.... thank you for all your help, Probably see you tomorrow when I take on some new things!05:05
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msimsdabaR: its fine once it listens to kde the problem is that gdm isn't fuckign listneing to the default and insists on using the largest res05:05
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Trilomi got it set to boot from cd and if nothigns there then go to the drive05:05
rossnolgradI installed curl with synaptic and cant find the app05:05
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monkievoxTrilom: old pcs sometimes have trouble booting from CD even though bios says they can.05:06
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dabaRmsims: you added the rates to the xorg.conf file?05:06
GoldfishWell, it's now working. I did /etc/init.d/network restart, and turned down my eth0 port (leaving just ath0 in the route table), and things are cooking.05:06
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Trilomok05:06
Trilomany suggestions?05:06
msimsno I did the dpkg-reconfigure05:06
monkievoxTrilom: you ever make boot floppies before?05:06
La_PaRCajsubl2, so, am I SOL?05:06
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d03boy!wget05:06
ubotud03boy: I give up, what is it?05:06
Trilomi have one05:06
jsubl2La_PaRCa, yeah that would be my guess..05:06
monkievoxTrilom: oh, well then give that a whirl :)05:07
ma5terdpis there something wrong with my mount that makes it an readonly mount??? sudo mount /dev/hda2 -t hfsplus /media/mac ????05:07
d03boyI would like to know the wget command to get the sources.list (a computer im' setting up only has shell)05:07
ma5terdpanyone???05:07
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oblibAny nfs experts here? I mounted a share, and it only shares one level of files!05:07
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Trilomok05:07
monkievoxmasterdp: dunno, sorry05:07
dabaRma5terdp: add options for read write.05:07
cdubyarossnolgrad, /usr/bin/curl05:07
Citydog!kernel05:07
rossnolgradoh, I have to run it in terminal05:08
hd420why doesn't ubuntu give one detailed errors when apt fails to do its thing?05:08
dabaRhd420: haha.05:08
ma5terdpok05:08
Dr_Willishd420,  may as well ask why apt dosent. :P05:08
dabaRpost the error you got to paste.ubuntulinux.nl05:08
fr500oblib: the grep thingy doesnt show anything05:08
cdubyaheh05:08
intelikeyshanonx yes that is what i've been saying, fat does not support unix file permissions.   the only thing that can be set is =/- w     the x and r can not be set.   and that is covered in the umask=   a umask=013 will make them not executable to group or world but owner has full access.   thing is the directories are masked same as files.  so fatfs for  a linux system is good only for short term, file transfer usage.05:08
oblibfr500, even after you type 'vncserver' ?05:09
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Hentai^XPworkfat is good only for trasnferign between windows and unix05:09
fr500yes05:09
hd420553705:09
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ma5terdpis that right fat chick05:09
GoldfishThere we go. Now I am into this channel on my ubuntu laptop. Ubuntu is slick!05:09
hd420http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/553705:09
oblibfr500, what does the terminal say when you run it?05:10
Citydogdoes anyone know a simple system monitoring utility for kde?  something that shows cpu and network utilization nothing fanzy05:10
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Hentai^XPworkotherwise I would stick with ext3fs on ubuntu and NTFS on win NT based oses05:10
monkievoxgoldfish: you wireless?05:10
hatred_can someone point me at a url that has a decent repository list? my current set doesn't have mplayer or xine or anything..05:10
GoldfishYup. Netgear wg511t (madwifi atheros chipset)05:10
ma5terdpi mean05:10
joedjCitydog: ksysguard is a simple one that has CPU and memory. i use gkrellm, even with KDE05:10
Sneaky_BastardFAT = what you must trim from your life as soon as possible :p05:10
_jasonubotu, tell hatred_ about easysource05:10
hatred_thanks _jason05:11
fr500oblib: something about New 'laptop:1 (root)' desktop is laptop:105:11
monkievoxgoldfish: nuts. my intel 2200 bs won't work05:11
chalcedonydoes someone want to tell me how to get a command prompt?05:11
_jasonchalcedony, accessories -> terminal05:11
intelikeySneaky_Bastard hehhe   yeah right.05:11
ma5terdphay is this how u add the option read write to cmd?? sudo mount /dev/hda2 -o rw -t hfsplus /media/mac05:11
d03boyI am in a terminal computer and I need to use wget to download a valid sources.list. Does anyone know of a file that is already saved somewhere that I can easily get?05:12
hatred_should I go for breezy or hoary? last time i checked breezy was still experimental stuff05:12
quackerchalcedony, you might as well just call <sigh>05:12
fr500oblib: but i started it form an open gdm05:12
intelikeyma5terdp yep05:12
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quackerBut first try Ctrl+Alt+F1 to F605:12
slashx1896is it true runnig ubuntu u cant get viruses?05:12
intelikey!repos05:13
cdubyaheh05:13
ubotuhmm... repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource05:13
oblibfr500, can you post HOME/.vnc/laptop:1.log to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl05:13
joedjslashx1896: no, it's a _lot_ less likely though05:13
intelikeyd03boy ^05:13
hd420http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/553705:13
d03boythat will give me HTML right?05:13
d03boyi dont want html05:13
GoldfishI have ubuntu on my laptop. I am also trying to get a new wireless card into my mythtv box, but not doing too well there.05:13
quackerslashx1896, that's not true, but it's far, far, far less likely than i Doze05:13
slashx1896alrite, ive done things that i normaly get viruses from.. now i dont05:13
hatred_slashx1896 almost. you can't get windows viruses, and linux viruses are few, far between and almost unheard of05:13
quackerIn Linux yah basically only gotta worry about rootkits05:13
intelikeyd03boy open it with links/lynx or even vim05:13
d03boythats a lot of wokr when I dont know ho to copy/paste05:14
slashx1896im new with ubuntu and stil gotta alot to learn lol05:14
chalcedonyi feel lost .. HOW do i find accessories to find terminal?05:14
d03boyi dont want &nbsblabla; shit05:14
_jasonchalcedony, applications menu05:14
d03boyi know there is a wget command becuase ive used it05:14
monkievoxchalcedony: are you looking at the gui?05:14
intelikeyd03boy got gpm ?05:14
quackerchalcedony, are you running kubuntu on Craig's machine now?05:14
quacker=oD05:14
chalcedonyquacker: HUGGLES05:15
dabaRhd420: sudo dpkg --configure -a05:15
slashx1896my friends keep pisin me off that i got ubuntu that its gay and a waste of time :\  i dissagree... and they hate it because it doesnt have limewire05:15
d03boygpm?05:15
chalcedonyquacker: yes we gave up win2k05:15
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Goldfishintelikey: That sounds like a bumper sticker!!  "Got gpm?" Hmm....could release something like "Got ubuntu?" I guess not too man people would get it, ehh?05:15
d03boyi dont know05:15
La_PaRCaok05:15
Dr_Willisslashx1896,  thers limewire for ubuntu.05:15
slashx1896gnutella..05:15
Hentai^XPworkgot system?05:15
La_PaRCacant get ipodder to run.05:15
hd420dabaR: same error, mate05:15
slashx1896sux...05:15
_jasonubotu, tell slashx1896 about limewire05:15
chalcedonyand yes it's a gui and no neither of us has clue 105:15
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quackerThat sounds like a step forward.05:15
chalcedonyit does not look like debian gnome.05:15
cdubyaheh, of all things to get called that for....limewire...05:15
cdubyahe05:15
fr500oblib:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/553805:15
cdubyaheh05:15
slashx1896o.o so  i dont have to use gnutella?05:16
dabaRslashx1896: there is limewire for gnu/linux systems, and limewire sucks, there is a better free program05:16
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intelikeyGoldfish i don't console without gpm  :)05:16
quackerDo you see a little K-superimposed over gears button?05:16
ledhhow do i install JAVA?05:16
quackerclick it05:16
Tired_Hello.  I'm trying to find some kind of documentation on how to set up a heavily stripped down Ubuntu box, and google isn't helping...any pointers?05:16
ledhi need it for limewire... =(05:16
La_PaRCaHaving trouble running iPodder, any help appreciated: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/553405:16
dabaRhd420: sudo dpkg --remove --force apache05:16
slashx1896dabaR like?05:16
chalcedonyquacker: Ha! upper left hand corner where the footprint is in gnome?05:16
quackerokayu, yoiu've booted Gnome -- use that button then05:17
dabaRslashx1896: it is called gtk-gnutella, and limewire can wish it was ok like that.05:17
cdubyaheh05:17
slashx1896o.O05:17
cdubyayeah05:17
slashx1896dabaR: i think gnutella sux05:17
oblibfr500, where is the guide you used?05:17
Tired_I want to remove all the services and such that aren't needed for the purpoise of the box, which is video playback.05:17
ledhx_x05:17
chalcedonyfound it .. accessories, termial .. quacker the goal was to get Abiword05:17
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dabaRslashx1896: why is limewire better?05:17
intelikey!start a desktop war05:17
ubotukde is much better than windowmaker!05:17
Trilomahh05:17
ledhwell... i wanna download music... that's all...05:17
hd420dabaR: server: 8:17pm % sudo dpkg --remove --force apache                          [~] 05:17
hd420dpkg: unknown force/refuse option `apache'05:17
slashx1896dabaR: i can barly get many songs..., and when i run it i cant use the interent.. last time i ran it my whole house lost internet except for gnutella...05:17
Trilomit wouldnt boot the boot disk either05:17
ledhcan anyone help me out?05:18
Dr_WillisTired_,  i saw a forum/wiki thread about that just the otehr day. on the ubuntu site.05:18
fr500oblib: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7663805:18
quackerchalcedony, you can put your taskbar anywhere, but the default location is bottom left after a Kubuntu install (gee wonder where they got that idea form... heh)05:18
monkievoxTrilom: hmmm05:18
dabaRslashx1896: ok.05:18
Tired_Thanks...I'll search there.  :)05:18
slashx1896dabaR: when i run it all my internet focuses on gnutella and i cant serf the web or use irc or gaim or anything05:18
hatred_slashx1896; lartc.org ;)05:18
oblibfr500, what is 'mobile3'?05:18
cdubya!javadebs05:18
ubotuit has been said that javadebs is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/05:18
monkievoxTrilom: any errors? or it just goes straight to hard drive?05:18
quackerchalcedony, Abiword is under the 'Office' menu05:18
fr500oblib: my computer name05:18
Trilomjust loads the HDD05:18
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slashx1896huh?05:18
dabaRhd420: sudo dpkg --force --remove apache05:18
GoldfishOn synaptic, what does the "supported" ubuntu icon signify?05:19
monkievoxTrilom: and this is after setting boot order in BIOS to floppy first, yes?05:19
quackerUnless you change it or it's not installed (installs by default with ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu)05:19
Trilomyeah i done that05:19
ledh-__________-U05:19
cdubyaledh, that help?05:19
ledhnope05:19
ledhx_x05:19
monkievoxgoldfish: i got synaptic on my hp laptop working good05:19
ledhi know nothing about Linux05:19
monkievoxTrilom: hmmm ... what's on that hard drive right now?05:19
ledh-.-U05:19
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d03boy<-- needs a wget command and a link to a sources.list (without html) so that I can put it on a system without GUI05:19
Trilomwhat you mean?05:20
Trilomits Windows 98 SE05:20
monkievoxTRilom: is it booting to an existing OS? or is it a blank new drive?05:20
quackerGoldfish, it tells you that the package is found in the main repository for your version05:20
ma5terdphay..;....05:20
ma5terdpisnt working!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!05:20
monkievoxTrilom: right05:20
Trilomthe existing OS05:20
oblibfr500, computer is the server or client?05:20
fr500oblib: server05:20
quackerI.e. breezy as  opposed to breezy-backports for Ubuntu 5.10] 05:20
monkievoxTrilom: you're not p[lanning on a dual boot are oyu?05:20
Goldfishmonkievox: synaptic kicks butt. I am pretty good with apt-get, if I know what I'm looking for. However, if I need to find something, synaptic is handy.05:21
Trilomthats what im wanting to do05:21
Tired_how usable is Ubuntu on a low-powered system...say, headless, 32MB RAM, Cel 333, no X...?05:21
dabaRwget http://www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list but hoary, change the hoary words to breezy05:21
ma5terdphay can someone help i get thiss error05:21
Trilombut i got 2 hdd's05:21
Trilomso it wont be too hard05:21
Goldfishmonkievox: but installing the ubuntu package search engine in firefox is cool!05:21
d03boythankks05:21
fr500oblib: normal vnc (remote desktop in the menu) works just fine05:21
quackerTired, Breezy badger needs 128 MB minimum!05:21
quackerDunno what Hoary Hedgehog requires05:21
dabaR$2005:21
monkievoxTrilom: well, i was going to suggest wiping out that drive completely.  but if you want to keep the win98 on there.... i dunno.05:22
ma5terdphay here is what i get05:22
ma5terdpubuntu@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ sudo mv 1.nonx /media/mac/05:22
ma5terdpmv: cannot create regular file `/media/mac/1.nonx': Read-only file system05:22
oblibfr500, the guide looks like it creates the vnc session when you try to access the port. You have tried doing a vnc client to port 5901?05:22
fr500yes05:22
fr500doesnt work05:22
Trilomim installing it onto a formatted05:22
Trilomhdd05:22
dabaRTired_: you can use the command line, if you want. or a ow end window manager. Try openbox.05:22
hd420ok... dabar, sudo dpkg --remove --force apache worked05:22
Trilommy C dricve has windows05:22
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hatred_Tired_ ubuntu isn't really designed to run on headless boxes i think.. maybe debian or arch or some other distro would suit your purposes better?05:22
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ledhcan anyone lend me a hand around here? I need the commands to get the JAVA thing installed... i wanna download music!05:22
Trilommy D is going to house ubuntu05:22
Tired_so, I take it Ubuntu is a bad choice for a small router/NAS box...?05:22
chalcedonyquacker: .. ill look in office, thank you .. i'm having trouble getting my box to print from abiword on debian.05:22
ledhToT05:22
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GoldfishStrange, I had to load ntp-server. I figured that sort of thing would have been in the standard install package. Well, I got tired of booting this computer into September 2004. :)05:22
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quackerIs Zeph still 'on strike'?05:23
fr500oblib: it's like the server doesnt start05:23
dabaRTired_: you would have to install with server option on the install boot screen, and then install something like openbox to see.05:23
hatred_Tired_ ubuntu is based on debian05:23
monkievoxTrilom: yeah, i've had trouble on older machines trying to boot up on anything when the HDD has a windows OS already on it.05:23
cdubyaledh, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java?action=show&redirect=AddingJavaSupport05:23
GoldfishTired_: Our mlinux.org club met and played with hacking a linksys router with a linux platform. THAT is cool.05:23
hd420still no go, dabaR05:23
Tired_yes, but with better docs05:23
bob2_ubuntu runs fine on headless boxes05:23
oblibfr500, what do you put as the destination in the client?05:23
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chalcedonyquacker: craig's box has Open Office but not abiword at all05:23
navaroneIs anyone using a Xubuntu install? And how is it compared to gnome?05:23
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dabaRhd420: ok, hd420 Im gl;ad it worked, and now it didnt, what aree you saying?05:23
fr500ip address :590105:23
bob2_it's the same as ubuntu, but with xfce4.  if you don't know what it's like, try it05:24
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hd420I was able to remove, but still can't install05:24
fr500oblib: or mobile3:1 since its a windows pc05:24
hatred_Tired_ if you want good docs, go with gentoo, though the install would be rather tedious on a slower system05:24
cafuegonavarone: More spartan, less resource hungry, not as pretty.05:24
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monkievoxTrilom: if you really want to waste some time, you could wipe that drive completely, see if ubuntu will install afterwards, then install win98 after that.  but i don't know what that win98 install will do to your ubuntu install.05:24
Trilomwhat do you suggest?05:24
Tired_i'm actually just moving away from gentoo...05:24
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fr500oblib: but trying  from the local machine doesnt work either05:24
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bob2_any plan that involves using gentoo for it's docuemtnation is doomed05:24
ledhI don't get... someone told me i should use Linux cos it was much lighter than WinX... and honestly... i can't tell the difference... :S05:24
Trilomnah05:24
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ledhIT*05:24
monkievoxTrilom: :)05:24
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quackerchalcedony,  $ sudo apt-get install [package name]   works just like in Debian05:24
Trilomdont want to do that05:24
ma5terdpanyone know about this error i am getting ??? ubuntu@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ sudo mv 1.nonx /media/mac/05:25
ma5terdpmv: cannot create regular file `/media/mac/1.nonx': Read-only file system05:25
Hentai^XPworkledh it can be05:25
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oblibfr500, have you ever done 'ipaddress:port:display'?  (or is it :display:port)05:25
Tired_i need docs that explain concepts, not step-by-step rote memory.05:25
Hentai^XPworkledh esp if you do LFS05:25
oblibfr500, so ipaddress:1:590105:25
Goldfishledh: I just loaded ubuntu onto a 5-year old laptop with a Celeron 433 processor. Believe me, XP would not run on this thing in any fashion. However ubuntu is kicking butt. I just need to upgrade the RAM.05:25
dabaRbob2_: do you know why I get a error:could not open /var/run/utmp: No such process error when creating new screens in gnu screen, and as a result a small delay?05:25
chalcedonyTired_: *hugs* .. boy do i understand you :)05:25
Hentai^XPworkLFS = Linux From Scratch ledh05:25
hatred_ma5terdp it means your trying to write to a read only filesystem05:25
dabaRbob2_: or more importantly, how to fix.05:25
monkievoxTrilom: just out of curiosity, if you made a win98 rescue disk, will it boot to that? or sidestep it to the HD?05:25
fr500oblib: doesnt work05:25
navaronebob cafuego...have tried the xfce theme and xfce from sessions...but was wondering whata  straight xfce install would run like. I like the xfce look...but getting everything in order like menus items and such05:25
TrilomHD05:25
Tired_chalcedony -> thanks.  you're one up on me then  :P05:25
ledhESP? o,O05:25
Trilomtried the  rescue disks too lol05:25
bob2_ledh: that someone was clueless, sadly; ignore them05:26
dabaRTired_: what concepts?05:26
quackerchalcedony, or use 'Start button' --> 'system' --> 'Synaptic (Package Manager)'05:26
monkievoxTrilom: it won't even boot to a win98 rescue disk?05:26
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bob2_dabaR: does it exist?05:26
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Trilomyup05:26
ledhn_n05:26
bob2_ma5terdp: that error seems clear05:26
Tired_well, the biggest problem I have is what kernel options to select for my weird systems.05:26
dabaRthe file itself exists. I tried playing with permissions, and that did not help.05:26
bob2_Tired_: the ubuntu kernel doesn't oot?05:26
bob2_ma5terdp: /media/mac/ is mounted read-only05:26
oblibfr500, you ran vncserver on the client (laptop) or the server (computer)?05:26
monkievoxTrilom: and the rescue disk was made recently with win98 on that machine? ie, you know the floppy works in win98?05:26
bob2_ma5terdp: perhaps it's hfs05:26
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hatred_Tired_ after you make a few kernels you get the hang of it :)05:26
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Trilomyeah05:26
monkievoxTrilom: dang.  got me.05:27
Tired_i haven't tried it yet....i am still evaluating whther it'll meet my needs05:27
quackerchalcedony, And unless you've created a root password, you will need to give your USER password since Ubuntu doesn't have one by default05:27
fr500oblib: server of course05:27
bob2_Tired_: in the time you've spent discussing it, yo ucould have installed it already05:27
hatred_Tired_ i just made a new kernel for this lappy this morning.. 2.6.14.3 runs very nicely when its customised for the system :D05:27
bob2_Tired_: and seen whether it worked05:27
oblibfr500, and what you pasted is from the server, right?05:27
Trilom:(05:27
Tired_but how do you learn how to customize it?05:27
ledhC'MON YOU GUYS!! now i have to BUILD the whole JAVA thing? x_x05:27
Trilomany one else you know i could talk to?05:27
bob2_Tired_: to customise what?05:27
fr500oblib: yes05:27
Tired_other than trial and error?05:27
bob2_ledh: no, don't be silly05:27
Tired_the kernel05:27
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bob2_Tired_: why would you bother customising the kernel?05:28
hatred_Tired_ good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement05:28
Tired_since I have non-standard hardware05:28
ledhthere's a link someone gave me... it says that...05:28
oscarhopefully someone can help me05:28
monkievoxTrilom: yeah, i dunno.  sorry man.05:28
bob2_Tired_: that is a useless definition, it's highly likely the kernel will just work05:28
ledhcan't you tell i'ma newwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwby? o.O05:28
Trilomits alright05:28
navaronebtw...just had to kill another instance of me on server. Nickserv's ghost is hadny...lol05:28
hatred_bob2_ because the kernel that this ubuntu install came with didn't have any cpu frequency scaling support in it :/05:28
Tired_it will detect my scsi software raid, my multiprocessors, etc?05:28
oblibfr500, well the only thing I can see weird is it says created server for screen 0, and then it errors trying to open display 'mobile3:1'05:29
dabaRbob2_: the file itself exists. I tried playing with permissions, and that did not help. (in the likely case this scrolled by you, I forgot to prepend with nick.)05:29
bob2_hatred_: yes it does.  perhaps it doesn't support your particular cpu?05:29
bob2_Tired_: hahaha scsi software raid05:29
oscarmy time, on the desktop, in upper roght hand corner show to be Fri Dec 9 4:27am05:29
fr500oblib: maybe because i started after an xserver was started?05:29
bob2_Tired_: if you want smp support, install the -smp kernel and reboot05:29
oblibfr500, seems like it should be trying to open :1.  Run 'vncserver :1' and let me know if that cahnges anything05:29
bob2_dabaR: who owns it?05:29
luisitowhere can I find Uplash themes?05:29
ma5terdphay i did this do i need 2 make another folder??05:29
monkievoxTrilom: you can keep asking these guys!05:29
oscarbut my real time is 10.29pm05:29
Tired_why hahaha?05:29
luisitowhere can I find Usplash themes?05:29
oscarand my date here is Dec 805:29
nifelsekiuhhhhhmmm.. guys.. how do i reverse changes done by apt-get05:29
dabaRbob2_: root. permissions are fine for owner and group. I added myself to the group(utmp) no changes.05:30
oscarmy time zone is set right05:30
bob2_Tired_: if you're using md or whatever, then I gather that just works05:30
bob2_nifelseki: be more specific05:30
dooglusnifelseki: apt-get05:30
fr500oblib: same thing same log05:30
bob2_dabaR: dunno then, sorry05:30
oscarand when I open "adjust time"05:30
oscarit show correct time05:30
bob2_ledh: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java05:30
Trilomalright05:30
oblibfr500, you want log with :1 on it now05:30
hatred_bob2_ the kernel i made this morning gets to init in about 2 seconds flat, and the savage framebuffer console actually works.. the kernel that came with this was like 9 months old05:30
oscarI found it!05:30
Tired_ok.  you've convinced me.  i'll try installing and see how it goes.05:30
oscarmy comp was set to05:30
oscaruse UTC05:30
TrilomX*X* NEed help : I need help getting my ShipIt discs to boot up, ive tried alot of things, please help05:31
oscarwhat is "UTC"05:31
fr500oblib: i started like that (vncserver :1)05:31
navaroneomg...I had to kill ghost cos I had opened chat in another desktop and it was running already in another desktop...lol05:31
Tired_thanks for the advice and the links, and for the free OS.05:31
bob2_Trilom: please stop it05:31
bob2_Trilom: if you have a specific question, ask05:31
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dabaRbob2_: that is ok, it is just a 1 second delay -- ages05:31
bob2_hatred_: 2.6.12?05:31
TrilomOk05:31
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oblibbut look at .vnc/media3:1.log05:31
oblibor whatever05:31
TrilomWell i need help getting my shipit discs to work, ive tried Changing the BIOS and it doesnt work, im sure my drive is ok05:31
hatred_bob2_ 2.6.8.1 it was.. now running 2.6.14.3 quite happily05:31
cdubyaledh, if you want, you can install java in synaptic as long as you've got multiverse enabled.....open synaptic and search for j2re, then install that.....05:31
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bob2_Trilom: you're being way way too vague05:32
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Trilomwondering if anyone has anyideas what else i can do to get them to boot05:32
gilothhello everyone :)05:32
bob2_hatred_: 2.6.8.1 is in warty, which is from october 2004; why arent you using breezy?05:32
fr500oblib: thats the only log that exists as before05:32
navaroneTrilom what changes can you make to bios in regard to boot order?05:32
oblibfr500, and it's identical?05:32
Trilomok you have to set your drive to boot from a disk, i set it to boot from a disc and it doest boot05:32
fr500oblib: yes05:32
bob2_Trilom: you mean "I configured the BIOS to boot the CD, but it appears to just boot into windows as usual"?05:32
oscaris what I'm typing visible?05:32
oscarsomeone please answer05:33
ledhbob2_ i'm not using breezy...05:33
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Trilombob2_ Yeah05:33
bob2_ledh: why?05:33
ledhi'm on Hoary05:33
navaroneyes05:33
hatred_bob2_ this isn't my machine.. friend had the warty cd, and dialup makes updating rather prohibitive. if it was my machine it would have gentoo on it05:33
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bob2_hatred_: ouch05:33
fr500oblib: nevermind, i got pissed already05:33
monkievoxbob2: Trilom has an old dell optiplex, P2.05:33
bob2_hatred_: basing comments to people considering breezy on that experience seems a little disngenious, tho05:33
oblibfr500, I think you're right that the vnc server is not starting up right, but I don't know why. Sorry I couldn't help05:33
fr500oblib: i'll try tomorrow :p05:33
bob2_Trilom: does it boot other cds ok?05:33
fr500no prob05:33
oblibfr500, I know the feeling05:33
oblibgl05:33
gilothwhats the command to restart the sound system?05:33
cgeIs there an intuitive (without gconf-editor) way to add folders to the Places menu and sidebar?05:33
Trilomlike games and stuff yeah05:33
fr500next one, has anyone been able to compile the new banshee in breezy?05:34
bob2_giloth: which part?05:34
fr500!sources05:34
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic05:34
bob2_Trilom: you've booted game cds?05:34
bob2_Trilom: or do you mean you can acces them under windows ok?05:34
gilothbob2_, I'm not sure really, lol... i'm assuming alsa?05:34
Trilomthe second one05:34
bob2_giloth: there's nothing to "restart" then05:34
bob2_Trilom: that's entirely unrelated05:34
ledhcdubya how do i enable the multiverse?05:34
bob2_Trilom: can you boot your windows cd?05:34
Trilomi dont know05:34
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Trilomyeah05:34
hatred_bob2_ you got me there.. i'm just not a fan of binary distros anymore, having fought with so many of them05:34
bob2_Trilom: try it again, now05:35
bob2_if you have to fight, it's a bug05:35
monkievoxTrilom: please :)05:35
Trilomalright05:35
oblibAny nfs experts here? I mounted a share, and it only shares one level of files!05:35
gilothbob2_, hmmm... well for some reason there is no sound coming out right now... i THINK it's using alsa, but am not sure05:35
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bob2_if you're used to redhat, debian and ubuntu are a different world05:35
cdubyaledh, you can go to Settings in synaptic, then add, then check non-free (multiverse).....05:35
bob2_since you can generally unfuck things that are broken in the development version, and they shouldn't ever be broken in a stable release05:36
bob2_giloth: so what would "restarting", if there was such a thing achieve? it sounds like the correct alsa modules aren't being loaded, or that ESD or something has seized control of the sound device.05:36
cdubyaledh, settings > repositories > add > non-free (multiverse)05:36
bob2_e.g. fuser -v /dev/dsp05:36
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gilothbob2_, hmm.. now it's playing... sorry about wasting your time :p05:36
hatred_bob2_ its more the chronic dependency issues that I end up fighting with.. eg; how easy is it to install kde in ubuntu without arts support, since arts is so terrible?05:37
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bob2_giloth: np05:37
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ledhbob2_ cos when i upgrade it,.. i had troubles with the keyboard... i could log in at all...05:37
hatred_bob2_ but this is about to become a distro war, so let's leave it there :)05:37
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bob2_hatred_: install kde. tell it to not use arts in kcontrol. drink beer.05:37
bob2_yeah, fair enough05:38
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gilothnow back to the question i originally came to ask :) i've been wanting to get involved with bash shell scripting, but didn't know if there was a howto located anywhere05:38
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bob2_giloth: tldp.org, advanced bash howto05:38
bob2_also #bash05:38
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Trilomdidnt work05:38
gilothbob2_, thanks, but is there a beginner guide rather than a advanced one?05:39
dabaRbob2_: we try installing apache on this ubuntu system, and we get an error, posted under hd420 on paste.ubuntulinux.nl05:39
hatred_giloth; the bootscripts in /etc/init.d/ provide a few examples.. there are numerous programs that are written in bash too.. file `which someprogram` is your friend05:39
ledhcdubya ... done! now? =(05:39
bob2_Trilom: the windows cd didn't work? then your bios settings are broken or the drive is damaged.05:39
monkievoxTrilom: wow. weird.05:39
bob2_dabaR: I'd be using apache205:39
Mostro /msg nickserv set unfiltered on05:39
giloththank you hatred_05:39
Trilomok well ive been meaning to put my other drive in05:39
Mostrocan people see me now05:39
Trilomone sec brb05:40
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bob2_dabaR: make the second line of /var/lib/dpkg/info/apache.postinst be "set -x"05:40
navaroneTrilom, and if that's the case you should get repair/new one before you need to reinstall windows...<s>05:40
bob2_dabaR: then 'dpkg --confogure -a'05:40
bob2_spelt corectly05:40
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Mostro /msg nickserv identify YOURPASSWORD05:40
bob2_...05:40
dabaRbob2_: why now that? Out of curiosity.05:40
Mostro /msg nickserv identify test05:41
bob2_dabaR: why which bit?05:41
bob2_Mostro: please?05:41
navaroneMostro, AAre you asking for help with something?05:41
dabaRbob2_: the change of the script.05:41
Mostroyes, I forgot my password05:41
bob2_dabaR: to force it to print wtf it's doing05:41
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navaronewb Mostro05:42
Mostro /msg nickserv identify pleaseletmein05:42
dabaRbob2_: we will try apache2 first, perhaps.05:42
jl0gikdoes anyone know how to run sudo inside a script?05:42
monkievox:)05:42
chris86wmhey guys, im interested in trying out fluxbox. how do i stop gnome and set fluxbox to start up?05:42
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bob2_jl0gik: to do what?05:43
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jl0gikiwconfig ath0 "xxx" then dhclient ath0 in one shot05:43
bob2_chris86wm: install xephyr, run 'Xephyr :1 -ac&' in a terminal, then 'export DISPLAY=:1 ; fluxbox&'05:43
mr_daemonHello everyone05:43
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bob2_jl0gik: why not just setup /etc/network/interfaces correctly?05:43
jl0gik<-- noob doesnt know05:44
Mostrowb05:44
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bob2_jl0gik: that'll be a lot simpler05:44
mr_daemonSince one update, I get tis in my logs over and over when I press the arrow keys and pageup page down, home delete insert etc: atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0).05:44
LewixI have a laptop , toshiba M40/M45 serie and  I've downloaded the iso dvd of ubuntu. when I boot there's things that loads up then my screen goes black. as well as the dvd screen as the install. I tried linux vga=771 with the live dvd because i want to be sure that it works before installing and I all seem to work till I got a erro message about xserver05:44
jl0gikcould you point me to a resource?05:44
mr_daemonAny ideas? The forums were not particularily useful...05:44
mr_daemonI just found people with my problem and no solution...05:44
fr500if i manage to compile banshee succefully without messing everything around too much, how can i share the debs?05:45
fr500i did them with checkinstall05:45
LewixI've been looking for a solution everywhere05:45
bob2_jl0gik: man 5 interfaces05:45
navaronemr_daemon, perhaps you have improper keyboard in use...i.e us vs uk or something like that...?05:45
bob2_jl0gik: also /usr/share/doc/ifupdown05:45
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mr_daemonnavarone: cf actually. Canadian French.05:46
bob2_mr_daemon: anything in the bts?05:46
mr_daemonbob2_: ... come again?05:46
navaroneahh oui oui...lol05:46
Lewixtu peux m'aider le canadien francais la05:46
bob2_mr_daemon: have you looked in the bug tracking system?05:46
mr_daemonlol coudonc, chu pas tu seul on dirait :P05:46
bob2_fr500: banshee is in ubuntu.05:46
Lewixsomeone helps!! please05:46
mr_daemonbob2_: hmm, no, i will hold on.05:46
fr500bob2_: but it's outdated05:46
cdubyaledh, sorry05:47
Lewixnon je suis pas francais mais je parle francias05:47
Lewixfrancais*05:47
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bob2_fr500: so rebuild he version from dapper05:47
bob2_Lewix: enough05:47
navaronemr_daemon, perhaps you don't have proper font set with accents and such...if your keyboard ampping includes them05:47
fr500bob2_: i used mono from backports though05:47
Mostroam I visible?05:47
bob2_Mostro: no05:47
MostroI forgot my password05:47
Mostrohow do I recover05:47
fr33mindI have sound in gdm and when I logged, I don't have sound anymore!  That was working this morning.05:47
ledhthanks for05:47
dabaRMostro: you spend life in grief never recovering.05:47
dabaRMostro: no, not so, but, there is no way.05:48
Mostrook05:48
fr500bob2_: so i should change my repos to daper and get mono and banshee from there>05:48
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fr500_05:48
mr_daemonnavarone: Actually, loadkeys cf is done properly, but I had the known bug in Gnome where I must change the shortcut key to change keyboard layout else i'm stuck with US. The rest was set during the installation.05:48
fr500?05:48
cdubyaledh, go to Synaptic now....and click on search and type j2re05:48
MostroI will try a new nick then05:48
fr500man this keyboard is killing me05:48
Mostrois that what I have to do?05:48
Lewixany idea ?05:48
navaroneMostro...maybe all that typing msg to nickserv in public got your password nicked...<shrug>05:48
hatred_argh.. can't install mplayer.. "mplayer-586: Depends: libxxf86dga1 but it is not going to be installed // Depends: libxxf86vm1 but it is not going to be installed".. what do i do about that?05:48
dabaRfr33mind: post output of "amixer" in a terminal to paste.ubuntulinux.nl, please.05:48
hatred_mplayer-k6 said the same thing05:48
ledhcdubya ... nothing05:48
bob2_fr500: get the backport people to do it then05:48
bob2_hatred_: don't use a broken sources.list05:49
Mostrosorry, I'm new to IRC05:49
bob2_hatred_: ie paste it to #flood and we'll tell you what to get rid of05:49
LewixI have a laptop , toshiba M40/M45 serie and  I've downloaded the iso dvd of ubuntu. when I boot and type enter there's things that loads up then my screen goes black. as well with the dvd screen as with the install. I tried linux vga=771 with the live dvd because i want to be sure that it works before installing and I all seem to work till I got a erro message about xserver05:49
fr500bob2_: kk05:49
hatred_bob2_ its the one i got from source-o-matic05:49
navaronemr_daemon, I salute you in your struggles...<s> (meaning I can't help)05:49
cdubyaledh, sorry, what version of ubuntu are you on?05:49
bob2_hatred_: I have no idea what that is, but it sounds like something a forums person would concoct05:49
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mr_daemonnavarone: Well, thanks for trying anyways :)05:50
ledhcdubya ... Hoary 5.04 i think05:50
dabaRbob2_: seveas' sourceomatic, kinda sucks.05:50
fr33minddabaR, done05:50
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fr33minddabaR, done #554305:50
hatred_bob2_ #flooded.. what should i change?05:50
cdubyaledh, ok. go to Settings > Repositories and look for the one that says Hoary Binary05:50
cdubyaledh, click once on it and click edit05:51
navaronenp mr_daemon05:51
mr_daemonsudo update-rc.d -f hotkey-setup remove05:51
bob2_hatred_: didn't you say you were using warty?05:51
mr_daemonThat should fix my problem according to people.05:51
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mr_daemonWhat bothers me is that hotkey-setup basically just sources a file, for laptop key support...05:51
hatred_bob2_ one can't update from one release to another with ubuntu?05:51
mr_daemonWell, if it *is* what I think it is.05:51
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cdubyaledh, you'll probably see a CD one listed first, then possibly an Ubuntu 5.04 source one, then a binary one05:51
navaroneMostro...keep the door closed...theres a draft05:52
bob2_hatred_: of course you can05:52
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bob2_hatred_: if you update through each release05:52
ledhcdubya ... now? i clicked EDIT05:52
hatred_bob2_ i'd like to be using recent software.. is there a better way to do it than just using recent repositories?05:52
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blackhii all05:52
mr_daemonYup no longer getting the error message. hotkey-setup was the culprit :) Case Closed.05:53
dabaRfr33mind: thats a big one. Dunno, ask crimsun, when you see him, or try alsamixer in a terminal, and try muting some things, use m to mute unmute. pcm and master must be unmuted for sure.05:53
bob2_hatred_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryUpgradeNotes, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes05:53
dabaR!sound05:53
ubotumethinks sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary05:53
blacki have some proble here :(05:53
cdubyain the sections area, add the word multiverse at the end, then ok and ok05:53
mr_daemonbob2_: Thanks for reminding me to look at the bugzilla.05:53
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blacki already install php,apache, and mysql05:53
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bob2_mr_daemon: fixed?05:53
chalcedonyokies.. now how do i find abiword to get it with apt get?05:53
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blackbut i can't connect my php with sql05:53
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cdubyaledh, then click Reload on the main synaptic window05:53
blackcan any body pleaseee help :d05:53
bob2_chalcedony: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto05:54
hatred_bob2_ but what if I don't have the bandwidth to update _everying_, and just want mplayer?05:54
cdubyaledh, and click on search again and run a search for j2re05:54
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bob2_black: you don't seem to have asked a question yet05:54
hatred_bob2_ dialup is greatly limiting to my options :/05:54
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mr_daemonbob2_: Yep, hotkey-setup was the culprit. I have no clue why as this usually loads laptop keys configurations.05:54
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Rev-Marchow do I get flash to install ?05:54
navaronehatred are you on dial up at home as well or just your friend on dial up?05:54
mr_daemonbob2_: And it basically sources a file and loads a the sony vaio junk if needed... oh well.05:55
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blackmy question is how to configure my php so it can't use mysql syntax05:55
bob2_Rev-Marc: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:55
hatred_navarone just my friend.. its too hot here at the moment to go outside though05:55
ledhcdubya ... nothing---05:55
cdubyaledh, hmm.05:55
bob2_black: what does "can't use mysql syntax" mean?05:55
ledhcdubya ... can i just go back to WinX? xDDD05:55
Rev-MarcI tried that and it keeps giving errors?05:55
ledhcdubya ... this is too complicated for me -.-U05:55
jl0gikwhat is a good MP3 manager i like to rip cd's to my comp05:55
bob2_Rev-Marc: which none of use can see?  paste them to #flood05:56
cdubyaledh, sorry to hear that.05:56
bob2_jl0gik: I quite like abcde.05:56
C-is-for-cookiecan people see me?05:56
cdubyaledh, there's great support for it.....05:56
blackyes, when i use syntax "mysql_connect" in my php script05:56
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blackit show error like this "Call to undefined funtion: mysql_connect()"05:57
ledhcdubya ... i know... and you are helping me with some of it... i just don't get it why i can't install the JAVA thing!05:57
navaronehatred> I don't know if anyone has a iso available with software from repos...but if you could find them or packages yourself you could burn them to cd and your friend could add them as cd source05:57
bob2_black: so you mean "How do I configure php to use the mysql module?"?  installing it should be enough.05:57
cdubyaledh, we can try another way if you want05:57
ledhcdubya ... i just want to download music... is that too much to ask? =(05:57
C-is-for-cookieam i visible now?05:57
cdubyaledh, no05:57
ledhcdubya ... xDDD sure! tell me05:57
hatred_navarone seems like a massive hassle just to install something that can play videos unlike totem05:57
ledhcdubya ... n_n05:57
blackyes that is what i meand :D05:58
bob2_hatred_: so use xine or something that's in warty05:58
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cdubyaledh, applications > accessories > terminal05:58
bob2_C-is-for-cookie: obviously05:58
ledhcdubya, done05:58
blacki already install it but it isn't working :d05:58
MWettendorffanyone here that can help a n00b with updating his x-chat to 2.6.0???05:58
C-is-for-cookiebob2_05:58
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bob2_black: and you're using php4?05:58
cdubyaledh, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list05:58
hatred_bob2_ well i'm trying to install mplayer, but everyone's telling me I have to update the whole system through two releases to install it05:58
blackyes05:58
fr33mindI have sound in gdm and when I logged, I don't have sound anymore!  That was working this morning.05:58
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bob2_hatred_: no one is saying that05:58
blacki am using php405:59
navaroneC-is-for-cookie, I sense a theme running...you aren't Biscuitian-warhe as well are you...? lol05:59
C-is-for-cookiehow do I direct an answer to you, the way you have to me05:59
bob2_hatred_: if you really want mplayer, you will have to jump through some hoops, yes.05:59
ledhcdubya, done05:59
hatred_bob2_ that's what you told me about 5 mins ago.. is there no other way to install it?05:59
cdubyaledh, do you see how some of the lines have a # at the beginning?05:59
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bob2_hatred_: I did not say that at all05:59
bob2_C-is-for-cookie: type my name05:59
ledhcdubya, yup05:59
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C-is-for-cookiebob2_05:59
navaroneC-is-for-cookie, if you mean ahving your nick light up line you just type persons nick to have them see it highlighted05:59
hatred_bob2_ then what do i need to do to install mplayer?05:59
bob2_black: what does 'dpkg -l php4-mysql | tail -n1' print out?06:00
cdubyaledh, they're commented out at that point - untouched by apt06:00
bob2_hatred_: jump through many hoops06:00
hatred_bob2_ why is it so hard in ubuntu?06:00
cdubyaledh, so we can enable what you need here06:00
bob2_hatred_: oh, stop it06:00
MWettendorffanyone here that can help a n00b with updating his x-chat to 2.6.0???06:00
bob2_hatred_: it's hard in warty ecause mplayer wasn't in warty06:00
C-is-for-cookienavarone, so did this appear highlighted to you then?06:00
navaronehatred> if you prefer gentoo you should be used to finetuning from what i hear06:00
ledhcdubya, o.k06:00
bob2_hatred_: if you were on hoary or breezy or dapper, you'd be drink beer from a pot plant by now06:00
hatred_bob2_ so why can't I install it from a more recent repository?06:00
navaroneC-is-for-cookie, yes06:01
cdubyaledh, do you have a line like this:06:01
fr33mindHeu, it's only GNOME sounds event my problem... gxine have sound.06:01
blackis says "No packages found matching php4-mysql"06:01
cdubyaledh, deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe main restricted multiverse06:01
C-is-for-cookienavarone, thank you06:01
cdubyaledh, except sub hoary for breezy06:01
bob2_black: uh, then install the php4 mysql support package, php4-mysql06:01
hatred_navarone, gentoo doesn't have this particular problem because its not a binary distro.06:01
bob2_hatred_: really? gentoo 2004.1 can install mplayer from the most recent release?06:01
blackhow can't i install it ?06:01
black:D06:01
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bob2_hatred_: http://www.linuxforums.org/tutorials/1/tutorial-25783.html06:02
blacki'm sorry, because i am a newbie in linux06:02
bob2_black: what's your native language?06:02
hatred_bob2_ yep06:02
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ledhcdubya, yup06:02
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navaronehatred> i simply state that gentoo takes patience and time under the hood...so it should not be taxing on you getting ubuntu in order06:02
Madpilotblack: have you read the Ubuntu wiki's Apache/MySQL/PHP page yet?06:02
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hatred_bob2_ it might pull in a couple of other more recent libraries, but that's fine.. it doesn't say you just can't do it06:02
sapakihi people06:02
cdubyaledh, you want to just copy all of that file, and throw it in the pastebin, then I'll change what you need and repaste it for you to copy back and save....? it may be easier....06:03
hatred_navarone i find gentoo 100x easier to use than ubuntu.. i find myself constantly struggling to do the simplest things in ubuntu all the time :/06:03
bob2_hatred_: apt should theoretically do the same, presumably you hit a bug in ubuntu, or the person who owns the system installed something broken in the past06:03
cdubyaledh, course, you wouldn't learn anything that way....06:03
hatred_bob2_ this was installed this morning06:03
blacknot yet06:03
ledhcdubya, you are the best man!06:03
ledhcdubya, i need a tutor! hahahaha!!06:03
cdubyaheh06:03
cdubyaI can't say I'm that....but I'll try to help.06:03
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MWettendorffanyone here that can help a n00b with updating his x-chat to 2.6.0???06:04
Madpilotblack: this will take you thru a complete install: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP06:04
ledhcdubya, well... you're helping me... period! n_n06:04
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sapakidoes anybody know if ubuntu has I450 printer drivers06:04
navaronehatred> i find people have specific needs and ways of doing things. CLI for folks who like dealing with letters and syntax and gui for visually inclined06:04
cdubyaledh, just paste it in the pastebin and let me know when you've got it there06:04
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blackwhere can i read the Ubuntu wiki's Apache/MySQL/php page06:04
black?06:04
hatred_bob2_ this is literally default install +gcc-3.4+custom kernel+xmms so far.. totem says it doesn't know what xvid or mp3 is so i'm trying to install something that actually works06:04
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ledhcdubya, well... you mean... copy it?06:05
Madpilotblack: I just gave you the URL above....06:05
covrigelfor some reason windows does not show up automatically with grub in the bootup, how do i add windows to it?06:05
cdubyaledh, yep, select all, copy, then paste in the pastebin....06:05
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TrackilizerHey guys need your help.06:05
cdubyaledh, name the paste so that I know it's yours.....06:05
TrackilizerI have this old 256MB MP3 player and would like to use it again.06:05
bob2_hatred_: totem is of no use.  install gxine06:05
covrigelanyone have any ideas?06:06
TrackilizerHow ever i would like to format it first.06:06
bob2_black: what is your native language, out of interest?06:06
bob2_black: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto06:06
ledhcdubya, done... i think... -.-U06:06
TrackilizerI tried doing that using gparted but all i can do with that is unmount the stick.06:06
cdubyaledh, hang on....06:06
hatred_bob2_ gxine requires libgtk2.0-0 and libfixes3 which apt refuses to install06:06
Madpilotblack: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP06:06
TrackilizerSo, how would i format it in FAT16?06:06
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hatred_bob2_ so same problem as mplayer06:06
ledhcdubya, hmmm06:06
bob2_hatred_: entire error to #flood, including your apt line06:07
ledhcdubya, pastebin? x_x06:07
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C-is-for-cookiethe only thing I will use xchat for, for now at least, is for this group, so is there some way to automate logging in, so I don't have to type my password, or is it all by design06:07
bob2_Trackilizer: I'd be very careful06:07
cdubyaledh, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl06:07
MWettendorffanyone here that can help a n00b with updating his x-chat to 2.6.0???06:07
bob2_MWettendorff: why do you care?06:07
ledhcdubya, n_n06:07
bob2_!+info xchat breezy06:07
ubotuUpdating ubuntu files... please wait.06:07
ubotuxchat: (IRC client for X similar to AmIRC), section net, is optional. Version: 2.4.4-0ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 240 kB, Installed size: 664 kB06:07
bob2_!+info xchat dapper06:08
ubotuUpdating ubuntu files... please wait.06:08
ubotuxchat: (IRC client for X similar to AmIRC), section net, is optional. Version: 2.6.0-0ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 247 kB, Installed size: 696 kB06:08
blackmy native language is indonesia06:08
MWettendorffbob2: becous i want the newest version06:08
bob2_hatred_: and the output of 'apt-cache policy libgtk2.0-0'06:08
TrackilizerI need to format it because it shows only 211MB of Free space instead of the full 256.06:08
bob2_MWettendorff: that's not a very convincing reason06:08
cdubyaheh06:08
bob2_MWettendorff: if you have an actual reason to need it, it's in dapper06:09
ledhcdubya, done... i guess06:09
ledhxDDDDDDDD06:09
smoet2.6.0 is in the backports06:09
bob2_if not, welcome to pointlesly compiling software06:09
cdubyaledh, k, hang on06:09
bob2_yay backports06:09
hatred_bob2_ the part i'm having the most trouble understanding is why apt refuses to install the dependencies it knows these packages need...06:09
blackwhy when i use this command "sudo apt-get install php4-mysql"06:09
MWettendorffbob2: true.. but im only telling the truth06:09
blackit said "can't find packages"06:09
bob2_hatred_: 'ls /etc/apt'06:10
bob2_black: perhaps because you didn't configure apt to look at universe?06:10
Trackilizerbob2_, so would you happen to know how to format a stick into FAT16?06:10
bob2_black: wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto06:10
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cmugAnyone know how to Install Ubuntu 5.10 with no X, but with framebuffer (?) so I can use Graphical WWW from CLI (links2 -g)06:10
Madpilotblack: you probably don't have the Universe repository enabled - the link that bob2_ gave you will tell you how to do that06:10
bob2_Trackilizer: I wouldn't06:11
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bob2_Trackilizer: some devices cannot handle filesystems that aren't made by windows06:11
bob2_tho I have no idea why06:11
C-is-for-cookiecould the length of my nick make it harder for people to want to talk to me?06:11
bob2_cmug: intall in server mode06:11
bob2_cmug: or just remove X later06:11
bob2_C-is-for-cookie: it's annoying, yes, but not a big deal06:11
cmugbob2_, i am that far. the framebuffer boggles my brain06:11
bob2_C-is-for-cookie: I just type C<tab> and it completes the rest for me06:11
hatred_Trackilizer mkfs.msdos ?06:11
kacikehello! Does anyone know how do I make Beagle daemon to start with the Gnome session?06:12
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TrackilizerWell, i could copy and remove stuff onto the player without any problems, only it shows 211MB of free space.06:12
C-is-for-cookieI will change it then06:12
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cdubyaledh, go to the pastebin again.....select the text I posted, copy and paste it into that sources.list file that hopefully is still open.......06:12
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Trackilizerhatred_, i don't even know what you mean there.06:12
hatred_Trackilizer mkfs.msdos formats a partition to fat16 or fat12 iirc06:13
TrackilizerSo it's an app?06:13
hatred_Trackilizer its a program06:13
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TrackilizerShould i do "apt-get install mkfs.msdos" ??06:13
MWettendorffbob2: dapper?? you lost me there06:13
ledhcdubya, done06:14
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bob2_MWettendorff: nevermind then06:14
bob2_Trackilizer: mkfs -t msdos /dev/whatever06:14
cdubyaledh, you still got a terminal window open?06:14
TrackilizerOh! thanks for that06:14
hatred_Trackilizer its already on my system, and I only installed this morning, so should be there already. you can only run it as root i suspect06:14
blacki am sorry, but i can only use command line06:14
ledhyup06:14
GoldfishI am trying to install lame. I find it listed on http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/sound/lame in the multiverse. However, apt-get won't install it. What is multiverse?06:14
blackbecause my vga card is not support for GUI06:14
GoldfishDo I need to add something to /etc/apt/sources.list?06:14
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bob2_Goldfish: a repository section you need to add06:15
MWettendorffbob2: thanks then..06:15
cdubyaledh, sudo apt-get update06:15
bob2_Goldfish: yes, wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto06:15
capnam I visible06:15
bob2_no06:15
kaydei have same prob ppl that remember06:15
cdubyaheh06:15
fr500do you know if banshee supports ipod video?06:15
Trackilizermke2fs 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)06:15
Trackilizermkfs.ext2: invalid blocks count - msdos06:15
TrackilizerThat's what i get.06:16
bob2_and the ecommand line you ran was...06:16
Trackilizermkfs -t msdos /dev/sdb106:16
cmugDirectFB anyone?06:17
bob2_I think I had some directfb in my tea this morning06:17
bob2_or was there a question to follow that?06:17
ledhcdubya, done06:18
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cdubyaledh, k. you want to use synaptic or just do it in terminal?06:18
abarbacciahey all - whats the recommended app to open chm files?06:19
cmugbob2_, addition to my previous :)06:19
ledhcdubya, let's do it the easy way for you... n_n06:19
bob2_abarbaccia: windows06:19
bob2_abarbaccia: failing that, xchm06:19
cdubyaledh, sudo apt-get install j2re06:19
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abarbacciaahhahaa - thanks bob2_06:19
Trackilizerbob2_ i assume you don't know what i should do?06:20
ledhcdubya, couldn't find package06:20
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=== cdubya wasn't sure that was the install package's name....
cdubyaledh, go to synaptic again.....06:20
ledhcdubya, okis06:21
Madpilot!java06:21
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs06:21
bob2_Trackilizer: I don't know how 'mkfs -t msdos /dev/whatever' could produce that error06:21
bob2_it works perfectly for me06:21
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bob2_Trackilizer: do you have dosfstools installed?06:22
ledhcdubya, i bet is not gonna work... hahaha!!06:22
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cozhello all06:22
cdubyaledh, heh06:22
TrackilizerNo06:22
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bob2_ah06:22
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cozIK guys I am bored give names of apps that will convinve me not to go back to windows06:22
ledhcdubya, can i just hit the screen? xDD06:22
Madpilotledh: java info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:22
TrackilizerSorry!06:22
TrackilizerI do have it06:23
cdubyaledh, sure, or check Settings > Repositories.06:23
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tedcoz: amarok06:23
chaumurkycoz: why?06:23
coztried that06:23
Madpilotcoz: Scribus06:23
cozscrubus tried that too06:23
ledhcdubya, done06:23
cozchaumurky i am bored06:24
cdubyaledh, and under the Ubuntu 5.04 Hoary Binary section please tell me that it says Universe and non-free multiverse.....06:24
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chaumurkygive me a Windows application provided in the base install that would make me go back...06:24
Madpilotchaumurky: damn good point! :)06:24
chaumurky;-)06:25
cozcamtsia studio06:25
ledhcdubya, i think so06:25
cozadobe photoshop06:25
cozpainter ix06:25
chaumurkydo they incluse that now??06:25
cdubyaledh, heh, package name is j2re1.4....left off that last part....;)06:25
cozno but neither is scribus included in ubuntu06:25
cdubyaledh, click on search and then type in j2re06:25
coznor blender etc06:25
chaumurkyfree in repositories though. Is Photoshop?06:26
Madpilotcoz: it's a fair bit easier to (legally) get Scribus for Ubuntu than it is to get Photoshop for Win...06:26
cozno but is is best06:26
ledhcdubya, nothing06:26
ledhT.T06:26
chaumurkyahh,,,best. right...06:26
cdubyaledh, wow.06:26
coztrue but I am still bored!!06:26
hatred_on a completely different note, how do i stop ubuntu overwriting my grub conf when it finds a new kernel?06:26
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coztheres one06:26
coz I tried that istanbul destop recorder yuk!06:27
ledhcdubya, I know... my pc is f***ed up06:27
ledhxDDD06:27
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cozto much symlinking06:27
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covrigeli've tried to apt-get install eterm but it says Couldn't find package eterm06:27
cozwhy doesn't he fix that?06:27
paulproteus|laptcoz: Oh, really?  I was hoping istanbul was good.06:27
bob2_covrigel: did you configure apt to know about universe?06:27
KnowerrorsCan anyone tell me how to use the kubutu 5.10 cd to downgrade from kde 3.5 to kde 3.4.3?06:27
covrigelbob2_,  how do i do that06:27
cozno it doesn't relaly work that well unless you know how to symlink and link etc06:27
bob2_Knowerrors: #kubuntu, but unlikely to be simple06:27
ledhcdubya, I don't get it... i've just installed this OS 2 days ago... and is making me go crazy!06:27
cozit records bu playback is a near impossible06:27
bob2_covrigel: wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto06:27
Knowerrorsbob2_: asked there, nobody knows06:28
covrigelbob2_, im sorry I am new at apt06:28
cdubyaledh, and you did the sudo apt-get update?06:28
covrigelbob2_, thnx06:28
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cozwhat's u[p  ledh06:28
ledhcdubya, yup06:28
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cdubyaledh, did it try to download a bunch of new list files?06:28
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ledhcdubya, yup06:28
bob2_Knowerrors: probably easier to reinstall06:28
paulproteus|laptcoz: Oh, okay.  I was already expecting to have to transcode.06:29
cdubyaledh, did you see anything about multiverse as it ran across the terminal?06:29
ledhcoz, i can't seem to install the freaking java package!! o.o06:29
Knowerrorsbob2_: yeah, thats what they said, but in my case no06:29
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ledhcdubya, let me check06:29
cozno but I am not good at symlinking so....06:29
bob2_Knowerrors: why do you want to downgrade?06:29
hd420test06:29
AIVmsg nickserv register <icantgetin>06:29
Knowerrorsbecause kde 3.5 is still buggy, 3.4.3 was fine, I thought it was ready but its not06:30
cozOh ok ledh you want me to walk you through better yet06:30
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cdubyaledh, sudo apt-get install j2re1.406:30
chaumurkyhd420:ack06:30
cozI can get a url for you06:30
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cozhold on06:30
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ledhcdubya, just one line06:30
cdubyaledh, k06:30
ledhcdubya, ok06:30
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ledhcdubya, this is what i got... :Package j2re1.4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.06:31
ledhThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or06:31
ledhis only available from another source06:31
ledhE: Package j2re1.4 has no installation candidate06:31
cozhere you go ledg    http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/#fixsound06:31
cozscroll down if you haveproblems let meknow06:31
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covrigelbob2_, how do i use the deb command, because its not avaliable06:31
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cdubyaledh, ah. forgot you were on hoary.06:32
cozOh hoary!!06:32
ledhcdubya, -____________-06:32
cozforget that although that url might help06:32
bob2_covrigel: there is no 'deb' command06:32
cozbob2 what are you trying to do?06:33
bob2_coz: ...06:33
chaumurkyledh: follow the instrtuctions here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7670206:33
merlyI finally successfully set up Xubuntu. :v)06:33
chaumurkyfor java 1.506:33
ledhx_x06:33
ledhx_x06:33
ledhx_x06:33
La_PaRCa!ubuntuforums06:33
ubotuLa_PaRCa: Did you get hit by a windmill?06:33
merlylinux newbie here, but i've tried about 8 different distros in the past week06:33
ledhxDDD06:34
saik0How would I go about deleteing all the files unpacked from a tar. they got thrown around in /usr and /bin etc etc06:34
MasterTsunamio-o06:34
ledhwelcome home Merly!06:34
ledhjoin me!06:34
ledhxDD06:34
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merlyand, i hate to be a cliche, but i can't get over how fast everything is06:34
AIVwhat is the url to the unofficial users guide06:34
cozbob2 you still there?06:34
merlyi have a p3 700 mhz. wow!06:35
_jason!ubuntuguide06:35
uboturumour has it, ubuntuguide is an unofficial guide written by community members. It is not guaranteed to be up to date, or to work. There is an official guide, at http://help.ubuntu.com which is preferred.06:35
chaumurkysaik) did untaring do that?06:35
paulproteus|laptmerly: What graphics card do you have?06:35
merlyso guess which distro will be installed on my turion 64 laptop06:35
paulproteus|laptmerly: Gentoo? ;)06:35
merlypaulprot- i don't know.06:35
merlyit's old06:35
merlypaul  - gentoo is gone06:35
paulproteus|laptmerly: Even better. :)06:35
cdubyaledh, can you sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5     ?06:35
merlypaul- "delete partitoin"06:35
merlyhee hee06:35
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paulproteus|laptmerly++ :)06:35
merlyubuntu got the same treatment back before the network worked06:35
merlynot sure why it didn't.... even this time, upon first boot, it didn't work. then i typed "modprobe tulip". I'm told that is a session-only thing06:36
merlybut i'm not complaining.06:36
merlyi'll be sad if it doesn't come back again. :v)06:36
bob2_coz: indeed06:36
cozso what is up with the no deb command/06:36
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merlythe only thing i would change, is xubuntu documentation doesn't tell you what to do if you don't install gdm or kdm06:37
ledhcdubya, nothing...06:37
merlyi mean06:37
merlyno06:37
merlywhatever the boot loader is06:37
paulproteus|laptmerly: Grub, you mean?06:37
ledhcdubya, i think i'm gonna HANG myself!06:37
merlypaul06:37
bob2_coz: what?06:37
bob2_I was helping someone else06:37
coznevermind!!06:37
frogzoowell, ledh, that would probably be a career limiting move :p06:37
ledhfrogzoo I know! xDD06:37
merlypaul maybe - the login manager i mean06:37
cdubyaledh, well, you're probably better served building the .deb and then installing that. You wanna give that a try?06:37
_jasonledh, nah don't do that06:37
merlynot grub06:37
AIVI created a desktop launcher on my desktop, how would I change the icon?06:38
Dr_WillisSuccessfull Suicide  - looks bad on a resume.06:38
ledhcdubya, 0.006:38
Dr_WillisAIV,  right click on it and seect the properties I think.. :p06:38
merlynow i will forge into the crazy scary world of wireless06:38
AIVI tried that06:38
chaumurkyledh: trust me, follow the instructions here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7670206:38
AIVI was thinking maybe it was like wndows06:38
AIVit has whats called "emblems"06:38
cozledh you can go to sun site download the jre.5.0.update506:38
ledhi'm tired! -.-06:38
cdubyaledh, I've done it a couple of times....it's really not all that bad as long as you can find the packages you need for fakeroot and all06:38
frogzoomerly: if youe on breezy, wireless just works pretty much06:38
Dr_WillisEmblems are special icons that go OVER the normal icon.06:39
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_jasonAIV, basic -> select custom icon (on bottom)06:39
covrigelbob2_,  do you know any guides that show how to install E17?06:39
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AIVI found it06:39
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AIVthank you, _jason06:39
bob2_covrigel: www.enlightenment.org06:39
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ledhi'll better tell a close friend that gave me the cd to do it for me...06:39
cdubyaledh, k06:40
covrigelbob2_,  its down06:40
ledhthis is really getting to my nerves.. and is making me SWEAT!06:40
ledhxDDD06:40
cdubyaheh06:40
frogzooall the E17 screenies Ive seen so far are damn ugly06:40
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Dr_Williscovrigel,  i saw a script the other day that downloade/installed the latest e17 cvs06:40
ledhdo you??...06:40
merlyfrogzoo - not "works" when its belkin with broadcom craziness06:40
cozI Eat spumoni06:40
Dr_Williscovrigel,  and it Crashed every 5 min.06:40
merlybut i've heard good stories about ndiswrapper06:40
ledhxDD06:40
frogzoomerly: :(06:40
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covrigelDr_Willis, what do you suggest06:40
cdubyaledh, I didn't have any issues with java on breezy...so....06:40
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n00bixhi.06:41
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Dr_Williscovrigel,  crashing every hr  :P06:41
ledhi had a problem with breezy... the keyboard wouldn't work at all...06:41
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n00bixneed some help! Can someone help me set up adsl?06:41
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cozTrue ledh, I do wnloaded sun java from their site and it works fine on ubntu breezy06:41
Dr_Williscovrigel,  easy_e17.sh - was the name of the script i found on the ubuntu forums.06:41
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cdubyayeah, what coz said....P06:41
covrigelDr_Willis, i tried it and it wouldn't install i got error06:41
cdubya:P06:41
Mabus06Is there a way to find out what kind of router you're connected to wirelessly?06:41
ledhcouldn't type a thing!06:42
cdubyaledh, heh06:42
Dr_Williscovrigel,  then fix it :P it worked for me.06:42
chaumurkyfrom CVS: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=97199&highlight=E1706:42
hatred_Mabus06 nmap may be able to tell you if the web configurator doesn't06:42
alxjvrhello, how do i intall firefox 1.5 on kubuntu 5.10? adept doesn't seem to have any package for it. and the source from mozilla complains of some missing libraries06:42
frogzoon00bix: 'sudo pppoeconf'06:42
covrigelDr_Willis, can i PM you after i try the script and see if you can help me fix it?06:42
chaumurkythere are several E17 HOWTOS on the forums06:42
covrigelchaumurky, i couldn't get any of them to work06:42
frogzooMabus06: get the vendor prefix off the mac will give you brand06:43
Dr_Williscovrigel,  i proberly wont be able to help. the thing was a total no brainer.. however i DID have to tell it to not make one thing.. i forget what..06:43
n00bixfrogzoo just says: sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu.example.com via gethostbyname()06:43
chaumurkyreally? that's unfortunate.06:43
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Mabus06frogzoo,  hatred_, kinda OT but is there an XP equivalent that I can use on my other machine06:43
kaydeok guys, i am runniong ubuntu 5.04 and i use a trident microsystems cyber 9525 vidio card and i have funny red lines across bottom of screen...06:43
covrigelI am going to try again and then I'll ask for help if it doesn't work06:43
frogzoon00bix: sry, just try 'pppoeconf'06:43
kayde**NOT RED**06:43
covrigeli did it on a VM06:43
cdubyaledh, sorry about your troubles...06:43
ledhTHANKS FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT PPL!06:43
ledhnop...06:43
hatred_Mabus06 not that i know of.. you could install nmap in cygwin if you can't find a windows port of it06:44
Dr_Williscovrigel,   easy_e17.sh -i --skip=emotion,eclair06:44
kaydeok guys, i am runniong ubuntu 5.04 and i use a trident microsystems cyber 9525 vidio card and i have funny lines across bottom of screen......anyone know bout it?06:44
chaumurkynot recommended to go FF1.5. breaks plugind/media support I hear...06:44
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cdubyaledh, it prolly would work using the fakeroot route.06:44
ledhthank YOU for trying to help me with it06:44
covrigelDr_Willis, yeah just like in that guide06:44
Mabus06how do you find the mac address of what router you're connected to, whether that be on ubuntu or windows?06:44
kaydefrogzoo, ive still got the lines at botom of screen :(06:44
n00bixfrogzoo no, sudo pppoeconf is doing something ... just took longer. For some reason, I can't use access dialup connection unless the adsl modem is switched off.06:44
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frogzookayde: 1st things 1st - upgrade 2 breezy06:44
Dr_Williskayde,  been working on that for a few days eh?06:44
ledhone more shot...06:44
cozyeh the fakroot is neccessary for sun java06:44
ledhtell me what to do06:44
covrigelDr_Willis, I didnt have everything turned on in the APT_GET now i do, maybe that makes a difference06:44
ledh-.-06:44
cdubyaledh, attaboy06:44
kaydeDr_Willis, more like weeks06:44
kaydefrogzoo, how do i get?06:45
n00bixfrogzoo again, it didn't do anything. Just complained it could find a providor.06:45
ledhBREEZY hates me! 006:45
cdubyaledh, you have a decent net connection?06:45
covrigelDr_Willis, does enlightenment R16 have shadows?06:45
chaumurkyledh: what errors are you getting06:45
ledhxDDD06:45
ledhsure06:45
cdubyaledh, you're gonna have to pull down sun's java06:45
ledhkeyboard didn't work at all06:46
ledhhow?06:46
cdubyaledh, https://jsecom16d.sun.com/ECom/EComActionServlet;jsessionid=703C9DE3E0803B1292A074B70F95563606:46
frogzoo!tell kayde about upgrade06:47
kaydeyea!06:47
chaumurkylol06:47
theCorehow do we install dapper without the framebuffer ?06:47
AIVwhat is the best text editor for Ubuntu06:47
frogzookayde, BE SURE to install meta packages ubuntu-base & ubuntu-desktop _before_ you upgrade06:47
cdubyaledh, click on accept, then on the linux self-extracting....the .bin file, not the rpm.bin file06:47
frogzooAIV: emacs or vi06:47
chaumurkyAIV: notepad06:47
AIVlike if I want to learn PHP, what is a good text editor to start with06:47
chaumurkyin wine06:47
kaydefrogzoo, erm meta?06:47
chaumurkysorry...06:47
frogzooAIv emacs probly has a php mode - it does for most things06:48
coznature calls be right back06:48
hatred_AIV; nano ;)06:48
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frogzookayde: just 2 packages - install them - then go read the upgrade docs06:48
AIVdoes eMacs come installed on Ubuntu by default06:48
chaumurkyledh: you there06:48
AIVor do I have to load it06:48
chaumurky?06:48
ledhcdubya, done!06:48
kaydefrogzoo, ok06:48
frogzooAIV: nope06:48
ledhdownloading now06:48
cdubyaledh, you got it?06:48
cdubyak06:48
AIVok, will look for it06:48
blackat last i can download the packages :D06:48
blackthanx all06:49
black:)06:49
cdubyaledh, in the meantime........ sudo apt-get install fakeroot  java-package java-common06:49
ledhcdubya, 4mins and its done06:49
frogzooblack: bills in the mail - your prompt payment would be much appreciated ;)06:49
saik0How would I go about deleteing all the files unpacked from a tar. they got thrown around in /usr and /bin /etc etc.06:49
alxjvrhey, in what package is autoconf , buildconf contained?06:50
Dr_Willissaik0,  Ewww.06:50
Sneaky_Bastardsaik0: no mechanism for what you ask exists06:50
cdubyaDr_Willis, heh06:50
hatred_saik0; did you pass -v so you get the list? if so, xargs rm and paste it.. if not you'll have to unpack it somewhere else and use find to go through the list and remove the erroneous files06:51
chaumurkyyou have to look at the relative paths and do it manually.06:51
Sneaky_BastardI would search for everything with a modified-time or create-time since you you unpacked06:51
hatred_saik0; you'll get breakage if it overwrote anything though06:51
Dr_Willisguess ya could unpack them again to a differnet dir.. and write a script to look for the files.06:51
ledh45%06:51
cdubyaledh, yeah it's a chunk06:51
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saik0hatred_, i used tar tf foo.tar > file.lst and got a list of files06:51
Sneaky_Bastardit is way too late now, but you should have untarballed to a safe folder first06:51
Sneaky_Bastardadn then seen what it  over-writes06:51
chaumurkycdubya's got the right idea ledh. It'll work.06:52
frogzoohatred_: just do tar -tf to get the list again - tar -tf x.tar | xargs rm should do it06:52
ledhcdubya, done with the fakeroot thingy06:52
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cdubyaledh, k06:52
chaumurkynice frogzoo06:52
cdubyaledh, now we wait till you get that file down06:52
hatred_frogzoo yeah that'll work.. i don't mess with tar enough to remember all of its capabilities off the top of my head ;)06:53
ledh75%06:53
saik0frogzoo, ahh xargs rocks =)06:53
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AIVobviously I can start emacs from a terminal window06:54
merlywhere is my "desktop"?06:54
cdubyaledh, are you counting it down...heh06:54
AIVbut how can I create a shortvut to it06:54
cdubyamerly, ~/Desktop06:54
AIVa launcher\06:54
ledhcdubya, yup... i don't have anything else to do! n_n06:54
cdubyaledh, heh06:54
ledh91%06:55
merlycdup - what is ~ / short for ?06:55
cdubyayour home06:55
ledhDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONE!!!!06:55
ledhn0n06:55
chaumurky/home/<username/06:56
cdubyaledh, sweet06:56
cdubyaledh, you ready?06:56
ledho.o06:56
chaumurky:-)06:56
ledh>.< am i?06:56
cdubyaheh06:56
ledh>.>06:56
ledh<.<06:56
cdubyawhere did the file download to?06:56
ledhi dunno! >-<06:56
cdubyaheh06:56
chaumurkyc'mon guys, where's the gold!!06:56
ledhdesktop06:56
cdubyaledh, copy the filename06:56
kaydefrogzoo, how do i find  Open up Synaptic Package Manager??06:56
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ledhok06:57
ledhcdubya, done06:57
cozyou have three ohter things to install along with the java package06:57
ledh0.006:57
cdubyaledh, fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin     select the part from jre-1_5....and paste in your filename....06:57
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chaumurkydone coz - I think06:57
ledhsay whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?!?!06:57
cdubyaledh, cd ~/Desktop06:58
cozwell if you do this06:58
cozsudo apt-get install fakeroot java-package java-common06:58
cdubyacoz, he already did06:58
cozoh sorry06:58
cdubyaledh, did you cd to the Desktop06:58
ledhi'm there...06:59
ledhnow?06:59
cdubyaledh, k... fakeroot make-jpkg the_sun_filename_you_just_waited_forever_on06:59
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cdubyaheh06:59
ledhxDDD07:00
kaydefrogzoo, how do i find  Open up Synaptic Package Manager??07:00
alxjvrhey, in what package is autoconf , buildconf contained?07:00
ledhand i have to say YES... right?07:00
cdubyayep07:01
cdubyaledh, are you scared....07:01
cdubyaheh07:01
cozyeah this is the scary part07:01
chaumurkylol!07:01
ledho.o07:01
Madpilotkayde: System menu -> Admin -> Synaptic Package Mngr07:01
ledhi don't have to read all that agreement... right?07:01
cdubyanope07:01
chaumurkylorl!!07:02
cozno07:02
Madpilotkayde:  and when it asks for a password, use your regular user's pw07:02
ledhsomething is inflating/creating...07:02
ledhi think it's gonna blow!!07:02
cdubyaledh, heh07:02
ledh>.<07:02
chaumurkynice..07:02
coz forgive me for butting in every now and then I am bored!!!07:02
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cdubyaledh, you'll have a .deb when you're finished on the desktop07:02
ledhyou're welcome man!07:03
ledhhop in!07:03
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cozall done ledh??????07:03
frogzookayde: system -> administration -> synaptic07:03
chaumurkyto see the deb you can type   ls07:03
cdubyaledh, when that finishes, you'll want to do a sudo dpkg -i the_filename_of_the_new_deb_file07:04
cdubyawe can hardly wait....07:04
cdubyacmon ledh, quit holding out07:04
cozthe easy way is to dpkg -i jre then hit tab then enter07:04
ledhbaby steps ppl... please!07:04
ledh>.<07:04
cdubyaI think his machine is smoking07:05
cdubyaheh07:05
chaumurkycoz's idea does an "autocomplete"07:05
ledhtrust me!07:05
ledhxDDD07:05
chaumurkysaves typing it all over and over07:05
cozyess it saves much time and many typing errors07:05
wanglei1123is there somebody can answer me my question?07:05
chaumurkyask07:05
vr^666does anyone know where the hell i can get BMP eq presets !?07:05
cozwhat is your question wangleill2307:05
_jasonwanglei1123, hrmm maybe, what is it! :D07:05
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wanglei1123what is the hardware scan program of ubuntu07:06
hatred_wanglei1123 lspci ?07:06
cozoooo got me on that one!07:06
cdubyaledh, did it finish the jpkg07:06
cozther you go07:06
_jasonwanglei1123, try sudo lshw07:06
cozi knew that , Yeah07:06
blackexit07:06
wanglei1123ok07:06
paueasanyone in here a mac user?07:06
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ledhwait07:06
ledhok...07:07
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chaumurkywwaaaaiitiinnnggggg....07:07
cozI am definately not the one to assk about mac07:07
cdubyapaueas, been accused a few times07:07
cdubyaheh07:07
ledhnow the .deb file is finished07:07
kraehemoin07:07
paueascdubya, any chance you can help out with running x11 on a mac with osx tiger?07:07
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cdubyaledh, sudo update-alternatives --config java07:07
ledhn_n07:07
cdubyapaueas, what's the deal?07:07
cozwow ledhYo have to tell ubuntu to use sun java07:08
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kraeheany suggestion for a gnome utility to display loadavg and other statistics in the panel (next to the clock or trashcan) ?07:08
hatred_kraehe system monitor does that..07:08
paueascdubya, well i just don't get what needs to be done to make this work on the mac.. i need openoffice.org to work so i need x11 and i installed x11 user pacakge but it still seems something is missing?07:08
doogluswhat is the default value in /proc/sys/vm/swappiness ?07:08
cozsudo update-alternatives --config java07:08
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cdubyapaueas, NeoOffice.07:08
cdubyaSame build, OS native07:09
ledhi mean.. UBUNTU... Linux for human beings?!?!?! I don't think so! o. I0m one of then and i can't use it! xDDD07:09
wanglei1123i mean , when you start to install ubuntu , how its initrd scan the hardwave and recognize it , such scsi devices and NICs , what is the script can do that ?07:09
kraehehatred_: whats the package name for it ? (or if its installed by default, how to enable it) ?07:09
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cdubyaledh, heh07:09
Nycteahi, how long do it take for installation of 510?07:09
wanglei1123my question is  , when you start to install ubuntu , how its initrd scan the hardwave and recognize it , such scsi devices and NICs , what is the script can do that ?07:09
cozledh did you tell ubuntu to use the sun java?07:09
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ledho.o07:09
ledhhow?07:09
ledhxD07:09
hatred_kraehe it came with my install..07:09
MadpilotNyctea: less time that XP Pro takes to install ;)07:09
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cdubyapaueas, it would be easier if you're struggling and you have decent hardware07:09
ledhUBUNTU: USE JAVA NOW!07:09
ledho.o07:09
chaumurkyledh: only because you want to install a newer version than Hoary provides. In Breezy, it's a piece of cake07:09
cozsudo update-alternative --config java07:09
cdubyaledh,07:09
paueascdubya, but it isn't.. because i need the support for openoffice.org 2.0 and their file types07:09
cozalternatives07:09
cozsorry07:09
Nycteamadpilot: hi it's you again. Thanks for the info07:10
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cozput an s on that07:10
cdubyapaueas, so you can't get X11 to work?.07:10
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Madpilotledh: easiest way to get Sun Java is to just use the package off Sun's website...07:10
Nycteamadpilot: btw, how do you type my reply with the yellow bg?07:10
cozchoose the number that is for sun java 1, or 2, o3 or407:10
cdubyaIAWMadpilot07:10
wanglei1123my question is  , when you start to install ubuntu , how its initrd scan the hardwave and recognize it , such scsi devices and NICs , what is the script can do that ?07:10
ledh>.>07:10
ledh<.<07:10
dooglusubuntu... linux for human beings who don't want to play mp3s, any windows media, do use sun's java or any flash or director web content.07:10
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MadpilotNyctea: just start a line with someone's nick, and it will be highlighted07:10
ledh>.< too much information processing!! Mayor shutdown!!07:10
cozagain that is sudo update-alternatives --config java07:10
cozgo slow dude it will work!07:11
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paueascdubya, aparently.. i have a feeling i don't have all the packages i need installed maybe?07:11
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ledhNO ALTERNATIVES FOR JAVA07:11
cdubyapaueas, did you download X11 from apple?07:11
cozthen you are good to go07:11
ledh.o07:12
paueascdubya, yeah i did07:12
coztry it out in the browser07:12
cdubyapaueas, prolly ought to pm me since it's a bit off-topic here....be happy to help any way I can.07:12
NycteaMadpilot: so did you see my msg in yellow bg?07:12
Madpilotcdubya: "IAW"? huh?07:12
cdubyaI AGREE WITH Madpilot07:12
MadpilotNyctea: yes07:12
cdubyaheh07:12
devnuldvdstyler depends on libwxgtk2.4 (>= 2.4.3.1); however:07:12
devnul  Package libwxgtk2.4 is not installed.07:12
devnuli have it installed07:12
devnulany help on that?07:12
ledhnope07:13
ledh>.<07:13
ledhxDD07:13
wanglei1123is anybody can help me answer the question??~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~07:13
ledhnope07:13
ledhtoo many now07:13
ledhxDD07:13
cdubyaledh, are you doing the linux happy dance now?07:13
cdubyaheh07:13
ledhI'm dancig with the pinguine!07:13
NycteaMadpilot: thanks :)07:13
chaumurkytoo many what?07:13
ledhxDDD07:13
ledhquestions! xDD07:13
hatred_awesome.. just spent two hours fighting with apt-get and fifteen minutes installing mplayer and its compiled for a different cpu and dies with 'illegal instruction'.. and people wonder why i prefer gentoo over ubuntu any day of the week..07:13
ledhi'm not answering any!07:13
ledhi'm the master of UBUNTU!07:14
kraehehatred_: *hm* gnome-system-monitor is showing a big fat window ... i just want an icon display of loadavg ... like in icewm ... but in gnome-panel07:14
ledh*o*07:14
cozif everyone were a linux expert ubuntu would take over the world07:14
chaumurkyyeah!!07:14
cozwell maybe not07:14
_jasoncoz, or at least linux anyhow07:14
hatred_so.. how do i tell apt-get to download a version of mplayer that'll work on a duron?07:14
cozwhy mplayer?07:15
wanglei1123hi _jason, hatred_07:15
wanglei1123hi _jason, hatred_07:15
wanglei1123hi _jason, hatred_07:15
hatred_coz; because totem doesn't work and mplayer works find every other time i've used it07:15
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hatred_fine807:15
hatred_*07:15
ledhcdubya, the .deb file is ready... what should i  do now?07:15
_jasonwanglei1123, we have all read you question (many times).  If we knew we would tell you.07:15
cozNO NO NO07:15
cozyou have totem gstreamer that is why07:15
cozyou need to get totem-xine07:15
Nycteamadpilot: i'm installing it to a P3 500 laptop from cd, and it very slow ...? any idea?07:15
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MadpilotNyctea: how much RAM>07:16
Madpilot?07:16
hatred_coz; but why did apt download a version of mplayer that won'07:16
hatred_t work on a duron?07:16
Madpilothatred_: try totem-xine07:16
cozwell I prefer totem-xine over mplayer07:16
_jasonhatred_, you choose the package, which package did you download?07:16
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hatred__jason "apt-get install mplayer"07:16
hatred_is what i did07:16
Nycteamadpilot: i think it is 128 only07:16
paueascdubya.. i think ill have to go over this a litte later cause i really need to write some journal entries before tomorrow07:17
cozdo you have all the gstreamer plugins?07:17
_jasonhatred_, do apt-cache search mplayer and then read the description for the packages (for example I used mplayer-586)07:17
_jasonubotu, tell hatred_ about mplayer07:17
MadpilotNyctea: Ubuntu on 128Mb of RAM is not going to be fast - you might want to try XFCE instead of Gnome - I haven't used it myself07:17
chaumurkycdubya, I don't think ledh's sorted yet.07:17
cdubyapaueas, np, I'll be around tomorrow if need be.....sometime probably later in the day07:17
_jasonhatred_, I think the wiki has a list with proper packages07:17
cdubyaledh, you didn't get that fixed yet?07:17
hatred__jason mplayer-586 vanished from my repositories when i fixed the dependency issues. only mplayer now07:17
ledhnu07:17
cdubyaledh, I thought you were compiling your own kernel07:17
ledh0.007:17
chaumurkyLOL!!07:18
Nycteamadpilot: XFCE is the interface?07:18
xspades128mb laptop with xfce is doable, mine wouldnt do any post install of breezy so i installed hoary and did a dist-upgrade to breezy07:18
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ledhsure! i've done it three times by now07:18
ledh:S07:18
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cdubyaledh, you have the filename of the .deb that it created?07:18
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ledhuip07:18
ledhyup07:18
_jasonhatred_, what bersion of ubuntu are you using/07:18
wanglei1123oo07:18
williamIs MAD MP3 all that it's hyped up to be?07:18
cdubyaledh, sudo dpkg -i debfilename07:18
williamI keep on hearing that it breaks things.07:18
wana07:18
hatred__jason apt-cache search mplayer lists mplayer-custom, mplayer-doc and mplayer-fonts only07:18
MadpilotNyctea: it's an alternative to Gnome, which is the default Ubuntu desktop07:18
hatred__jason warty appariently07:19
merlyi am having trouble delting some directories and files i just made07:19
hatred__jason i tried to get one from the breezy repository but apt wouldn't let me for reasons unknown07:19
_jasonhatred_, why not upgrade to breezy?07:19
cozare they enabled multivers, universe?07:19
Nycteamadpilot: since i'm very new, when can i use XFCE? before or after install? coz installation now quite slow thou07:19
Madpilothatred_: you should probably start by upgrading...07:19
hatred__jason; dialup07:19
_jasonhatred_, ah07:20
covrigelquick question: can i mount NTFS file system?07:20
cozclean install07:20
cdubyacovrigel, yes07:20
cozyes07:20
covrigelcdubya, how07:20
covrigelwith the disk command it says inaccessible07:20
covrigeldisk xwindow prog07:20
hatred_why do i have to download hundreds of megs of stuff i don't need just to get a version of mplayer that doesn't die?07:20
cozjust call me spumoni doof07:20
cdubyacovrigel, hang on, lemme find that wiki page07:20
kraehehatred_: *hm* /me got a german explaination how to use 'system monitor' inside the panel07:21
cozhatred try totem-xine07:21
_jasonhatred_, I never used warty so I'm not sure if mplayer was packaged the same way.  You've enabled multiverse and universe though?07:21
ledhalguien aqu habla espaol por cia caso? o.o?07:21
covrigelcdubya, thnx07:21
hylasjust use xine07:21
cozno totem -xine07:21
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hatred__jason no idea.. used to gentoo.. this whole having separate repositories for different releases seems like a real mess07:22
ledhdooooooooooone! n_n07:22
MadpilotNyctea: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingXubuntu07:22
smoethttp://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch05.html > mount ntfs07:22
cozit a mes hatred but it works07:22
cdubyaledh, sweet07:22
cdubyaledh, hang on07:22
covrigelok07:22
covrigelthnx07:22
hatred_coz; no it doesnt..07:23
cdubyacovrigel, methinks this is it... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions   at least that's what I used.....07:23
cozlol well it does if you take your time07:23
cdubyaledh, one more thing...07:23
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Madpilothatred_: packages from one version might not work on another version, and are probably different versions anyway, so seperating them makes sense...07:23
covrigelcdubya, thnx I'll try it07:23
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NycteaMadpilot: thanks on my way now07:23
cdubyacovrigel, np07:23
cdubyaledh, sudo update-alternatives --config java07:23
hatred_coz; i just spent over two hours trying to get apt to install mplayer, just to find out its compiled wrong..07:23
wan /msg nickserv set unfiltered on07:24
cozyou are using mpalyer to do what?07:24
cozplay dvd's?07:24
ledhnothing to configure07:24
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whyameyehow do I figure out what package to download for a particular header? In this case I need qucomextra_p.h for compiling...07:24
ledhit says that there's only 1 program which provides JAVA...07:24
Nycteamadpilot: if i install in another desktop with P3 1Ghz and 1G ram? any problem?07:24
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cdubyaledh, java --version07:24
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hatred_over it.. found my gentoo cd.. ubuntu is far too difficult for my liking. seems debian hasn't changed at all in the three or so years since i last used it07:24
hatred_later07:25
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cozhatred NOOOO07:25
cdubyatoo bad.07:25
ledhand what's the version?07:25
cozget a grip dude07:25
cdubyaledh, what did that command report?07:25
_jasonwhyameye, libqt3-headers contains that file.  Install the package "apt-file".  It will let you search packages for files.07:25
MadpilotNyctea: regular Ubuntu w/ Gnome will work great on a machine like that07:25
williamI just installed Mplayer Docs, how do I access them now?07:25
cozthree months and you too will be sudo expert07:25
ledhsun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb ---> this one?07:26
freelovei created a new user with kuser in kubuntu ..but sound does not work for the new user......but when i created a new user with ubuntu things are ok........why??07:26
williamYes, young grasshoppa.:P07:26
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williamSudo chop.:P07:26
chaumurkyledh: java --version will say if it's installed and used07:26
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cdubyaledh, no.... if you type java --version07:26
beej_hello all07:26
cozhello beej07:26
ledhledh@dC9F82027:~/Desktop$ java --version Unrecognized option: --version07:27
ledhCould not create the Java virtual machine.07:27
merlyok. i just did ndiswrapper on the drivers.07:27
merlywhat do i do now to turn the thing on?07:27
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merly:)07:27
wanglei1123<your-password:07:27
williamI wish that their was an open source implimentation of Java.07:27
wanglei1123<your-password:] 07:27
JL0gikanyone have experiance with abcde?07:27
whyameye_jason: this is weird, because I have libqt3-headers installed, but qucomextra_p.h is not on my hard disk. I just searched...07:27
cozsame here ledg but it works07:27
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williamSun Java, though better then MS Java, is still kludgy code.07:27
cozledh07:27
NycteaMadpilot: phew ... then i can install for my home machine too. But i'm worry about nvidia gfx driver ... and other softwrae driver too ...07:27
cozsorry damn fingers07:27
NycteaMadpilot: i mean hardware driver07:27
chaumurkycdubya: still not installed methinks....07:27
cdubyayeah, that's what it sounds like07:27
MadpilotNyctea: Nvidia cards should work fine07:28
cdubyaledh, which java07:28
freelovei created a new user with kuser in kubuntu ..but sound does not work for the new user......but when i created a new user with ubuntu things are ok........plz explain07:28
_jasonwhyameye, mine is at: usr/include/qt3/private/qucomextra_p.h07:28
Madpilot!nvidia07:28
ubotuhmm... nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736807:28
cdubyaledh, and that wasn't a question....07:28
MadpilotNyctea: see ubotu ^^^07:28
cdubyaheh07:28
whyameye_jason: sorry. I just found it at the same place you have it...07:28
cozwell I can't get java version with the command you gave but my java is working fine07:28
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ledhusr/bin/java07:28
NycteaMadpilot: what is ubotu?07:28
JL0giki need help with abcde if anyone knows07:28
cdubyaledh, it's there07:29
cdubyacoo07:29
_jasonwhyameye, :)07:29
kaydecan someone walk me thru updating to breezy badger in private mssage?07:29
ledhcdubya, o.o07:29
_jasonubotu, tell kayde about breezy07:29
ledhi'll help you07:29
ledhxDD07:29
cdubyachaumarky, he need to add it to the path?07:29
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williamUbotu is the old help bot07:29
ubotuwilliam: Are you on ritalin?07:29
beej_should be as easy as popping in the cd07:29
ledhRitalin?07:30
ledhxDD07:30
covrigelhas anyone built E17 yet with the easy_e17? I am getting entrance installation ERROR07:30
ledhhahahahah!!07:30
sambagirlis there limitation to number of channels you can join?07:30
MadpilotNyctea: our local bot, who printed nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368  for you07:30
williamUbotus is mocking me.07:30
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chaumurkyledh: to be sure, did you type    sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb07:30
chaumurkycdubys: don't thinkso07:30
beej_bah, i should be running at 1280x102407:30
cozno mocking07:30
williamUbotu: I'm not on ritalin, you bolt for brains.07:30
ubotuwilliam: Bugger all, i dunno07:30
ledhyup07:30
kayde_jason, ...i knoiw, but i dont understand...07:30
JL0gikcan you update to breezy from 5.0407:30
hylasIs it safe to update my hoary repos to breezy?07:30
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rob1william, leave the bot alone07:30
Madpilothylas: yes07:30
williamHe started it.:P07:30
hylasok thx07:31
Madpilot!tell hylas about upgrade07:31
cozyeah!07:31
cdubyaheh, this is great, a bot with a sense of humor07:31
hylasit just said it's still experimental07:31
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covrigelhas anyone built E17 yet with the easy_e17? I am getting entrance installation ERROR07:31
beej_i'll be back later, see ya07:31
chaumurkyarent we all??07:31
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chaumurkyexperimental ;-)07:31
cozI ahve not covrigel07:31
JL0gikUbotu: i like donuts07:31
ubotuJL0gik: I give up, what is it?07:31
Madpilothylas: Breezy final was released in mid-October07:31
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covrigelcoz, lol dang07:31
william!MAD07:31
ubotuwilliam: I don't know07:31
covrigelcoz,  what do you use07:31
freelovehow do i remove the hard drive icons from desktop???07:31
cozI use breeay final07:31
cdubyaI love the wars ubotu starts07:31
cozbreezy07:31
cozdamn fingers07:32
pramzcdubya: what kind of wars ?07:32
williamI love Ubuntu.07:32
williamExcept for the name, which I can't always spell right.07:32
pramzif you mean the my distro is bigger than your distro, it happens all the time and its stupid :)07:32
cdubyalike the editor wars, the desktop wars....etc....07:32
ledhUBUNTU HATES ME!07:32
cdubyaledh, why?07:32
chaumurkyno ledh, c'mon, did you type    sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb07:32
pramzubuntu loves me and i love ubuntu back :-)07:32
hylasYeah but I'm running hoary, and it said it's still experimental to just update by updating your repos07:32
rob1wow, this is getting worse then #fedora07:32
ledhyes sir.. i did...07:32
pramzlol07:32
cdubyapramz, I hadn't seen it much and was cracking up at the statements....07:33
liamu guys think ubuntu is the desk debian distro??07:33
NycteaMadpilot: thanks, but how do i use the bot to help me?07:33
chaumurkyand there were no errors?07:33
williamWhat is wrong with #fedora?07:33
liambest*07:33
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wanglei1123hi07:33
IcemanV9Ubuntu killed LCD this morning .. has to find OLD laptop w/ 128Mb RAM *sigh*07:33
ledhshe's sleepong now, may i take the msg?07:33
cozyeah how do you use ubotu07:33
ledhxDDD07:33
freelovehow do i remove the hard disk icons from desktop plz say:(07:33
Madpilot!tell Nyctea about ubotu07:34
cozright click delete07:34
wanglei1123hi everyone , how can tell somebody in there (public) with red chars?07:34
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wanglei1123hi everyone , how can i tell somebody in there (public) with red chars?07:34
cozwell tell me too!07:34
ledhUBUNTU **MURDERER!!!**07:34
chaumurkyledh: that's not helping...07:34
ledhnope...07:35
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ledhi'm going crazy here though07:35
williamWhy isn't the game Atlantik default in Ubuntu?07:35
chaumurkyrelax07:35
ledhn_n07:35
williamIt's a kickass game.07:35
ledhcan't07:35
cozI bet it felt good though!07:35
ledhi'll kick ubuntu's ass! .07:35
rob1!coc07:35
uboturumour has it, coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/07:35
williamI punted my Aptiva once.07:35
wanglei1123hi ,hello  , how can i tell somebody in there (public) with red chars?  could you tell me ? n_n07:35
chaumurkyyou should take a break and come back later. We'll be here. :-)07:35
cozAH another app I didn't try atlantic07:35
ledhi wanna DOWNLOAD MUSIC!!! >.<07:35
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wanglei1123hi ,hello  , how can i tell somebody in there (public) with red chars?  could you tell me ? ^_^07:36
ledhnope!07:36
chaumurkyno, not frustration, just pragmatism ;-)07:36
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williamSHUT UP!07:36
cdubyaheh07:36
Nyctea!tell07:36
cozledg is the java not working????07:36
cozledh07:36
williamWhat the heck do you mean by with red chairs!?07:36
wanglei1123!tell wan hi07:36
cozsoryy07:36
rob1guys, if you want to mess around do it in #ubuntu-offtopic07:36
chaumurkyI remember when I was in Ledh's shoes...07:36
cozdamn fingers07:36
wanglei1123ok , thanks :)07:36
ledhmy brain will explode... but i have to download a song tonite!07:36
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rob1this is all off topic here07:36
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williamShut up Ledh, this isn't a music channel.07:36
ledh.07:37
cozwell ledh, I assume you need the java to download the music?07:37
wank07:37
freelovehow do i remove the hard disk icons from my ubuntu desktop plz say:(07:37
chaumurkyledh, install amule. Doesn't need Java. ------ go:    sudo apt-get install amule07:37
ledhright... and who are YOU to butt in?07:37
ledhu_u07:37
wanglei1123tell wan hi07:37
williamI had the same problem last night07:37
wanglei1123.07:37
cozfreelove have you tried right clock delete?07:37
wanglei1123wan .07:37
cozclick07:37
williamit's sudo apt-get install java-1.407:37
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freelovecoz: yes it doesnt work.....07:38
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cozhold on freelov I will check07:38
wanglei1123wan: this is for you07:38
ledhCoz... Chaumurky... i'm gonna use Limewire07:38
ledhthat's why07:38
NycteaMadpilot: thanks07:38
chaumurkyAhh, but till then, amule??07:38
wanwanglei1123 really?07:38
williamledh, sudo apt-get install java-1.407:38
wanwanglei112 really?07:38
ledhIT WORKED!!!!07:38
wanwanglei1123 really?07:38
ledhLIMEWIRE WORKED!!!07:38
chaumurkywilliam, ledh's on Hoary - no java07:38
williamHoary?07:38
cozjava 1.4 is old dude07:38
chaumurkyno kidding??07:39
ledhyup yup!!!!07:39
ledhn0n07:39
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cdubyaledh, sweet07:39
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ledh**DAncing with the Linux Pinguine!!!**07:39
chaumurkyfantastic!. I'm very happy for you!07:39
ledhTHANKS YOU GUYS!!07:39
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chaumurkyour pleasure07:39
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whyameye_I want to install a Debian binary. Should I go with the SID or SARGE binary if I am using ubuntu Hoary?07:39
cozhope everything fairs well ledh07:39
chaumurkyheh..07:39
williamI know it is, but it installed easier, and time is scarce right now, I have a final tommorow and I spent three restless nights on a research paper with a partner, and another partner who didn't do her job.07:39
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Pjanur so excited ledh07:39
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ledhreally?07:40
ledhcan you tell?07:40
ledho.o07:40
ledh0.007:40
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cozvery long haul07:40
cdubyaheh07:40
coz congratulations07:40
chaumurkyledh: what are you going to download07:40
Madpilotwhyameye: ideally, neither07:40
chaumurkyhope it's legal *gG*07:40
chaumurky;-)07:40
ledhmp3's07:41
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Pjanwhat song ledh07:41
cozbeep media player for mp307:41
chaumurkybeautiful - polititian's answer ;-)07:41
ledhmany many cds!07:42
chaumurkyemjoi gently then07:42
Pjansomeone will sue u ledh 4 illegal dl hehehehe07:42
ledho.o07:42
ledh>.<07:42
ledh>.<07:42
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chaumurkyband demos etc07:42
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kaydecan someone walk me thru updating to breezy badger in private mssage?07:42
ledhmy girldfriend is a lawyer... she'll defend me!07:42
ledhxDD07:42
chaumurkyroyalty free sound effects cd's07:42
cozkayde can you clean install instead?07:43
chaumurkydon't worry, the RIAA has always settled out of court...07:43
kaydecoz, ??07:43
Pjanya ur right chau07:43
cdubyakayde, wish I could, but I haven't ever upgraded...I've always done a clean installation....07:43
xspadesnot always, some lady is fighting back07:43
chaumurky*goes to get beer - this is getting interesting*07:43
cozkayde my suggestion is to back up all your files07:43
cozonto cd07:43
kaydeand?07:43
coz then low format the drive and install breezy clean07:43
cdubyaIAWcoz07:44
kaydewhear do i get breezy?07:44
Pjanya thats better kayde07:44
hylas!tell kayde about update07:44
kaydebrb07:44
cdubyaubuntulinux.com07:44
cozdownload it from ubuntu just type07:44
whyameye_Madpilot: I just so frustrated trying to compile from the source. The latest is that gcc is not finding qwidget.h. I tried setting CFLAGS to where qwidget.h is, but this doesn't help...07:44
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cozubuntu in the brwoser it will take you to the site07:44
smoet!tell smoet about upgrade07:44
cozburn it to disk and install it07:44
Pjanemmm u better submit for free cd07:44
Pjanubuntu is rock07:44
coz you may also want to get  the free cd's sent to you but that takes awhile07:45
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Pjanyupp maybe for 2-3 weeks07:45
Madpilotcoz: upgrading from Hoary to breezy in place works fine...07:45
cozI bet it does but I have always gone by low formatting and clean installs for any os07:45
coz I have sen the difference if you don't07:45
cdubyaMadpilot, that's good to hear.....but I'm kinda with coz on that one.....besides it forces me to backup.....which I don't do often enough anyways.....07:46
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cozExactly and believe it or not even linux levaes things on the disk that can cause a few strange things to happen07:46
Madpilotcdubya: yeah, good point on backups... it's been a month since I burned a backup CD myself...07:46
merlytesting. can you read this?07:47
cozif you upgrade07:47
Pjanreally coz?07:47
hylasyrd merly07:47
hylasyes07:47
cozyess I have used linux, flavors windows mac sam thing applies07:47
coz clean install always work best and if there is aproblem at least you know it was not caused by the overwriting of other files07:47
Pjanoic07:48
cdubyayep07:48
cdubyaat least you know you got a clean start....takes the mystery out of issues....07:48
whyameye_so...compiling from the source...any ideas on how to force g++ to find qwidget.h, which is in my /usr/include/qt3 directory? I tried CFLAGS...07:48
Pjanso we have to format hdd first07:48
cozyes and if there is a problem you can identify it easier and if it is a bug you can report it without too much doubt about the causes07:48
cafuegowhyameye_: add -I/usr/include/qt3 to CFLAGS07:48
c4v4l31r0_n3gr0 uhauah07:49
doogluswhyameye_: use - yes.  what he said :)07:49
whyameye_cafuego: tried that. Doesn't work.07:49
cozyes i find that seagates low format for ide drives wroks great07:49
cafuegowhyameye_: Give it a pay rise.07:49
cafuegowhyameye_: What are you building anyway? And are you using 'checkinstall' ?07:49
levanderI've got a .jar file that's a theme for firefox, somebody can tell me how to install it?07:49
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cozi am sogslad tahat evyrnoe here sepels as well as I do07:50
smoetahh... just do a dist-upgrade... that's what it's for07:50
kaydeI cant download more than 100mb so no, breezy 4 me :(07:50
whyameye_cafuego: I'm trying to build libradio-0.94, part of rivendell. I don't know about checkinstall...07:50
cafuegowhyameye_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall07:50
cafuegolevander: Drop it on the Themes dialog window07:50
ajmitchcafuego: you're recommending use of checkinstall?07:50
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cafuegoajmitch: if you _must_ use a source tarball, then yes.07:50
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Pjanwhat happen to u kayde07:51
cafuego!info libradio07:51
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whyameye_cafuego: I'd have to get past the make command first. And...this brings up another problem on my computer. I can't see the commands listed on the web page you sent me. It's a font problem, I guess. Ever heard of this problem?07:51
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doogluscafuego: didn't you know that payrises cause demotivation?  http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/motivation.html07:51
levandercafuego: drag it from nautilus and drop it on the themes window in firefox?07:51
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Pjan!help07:52
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whyameye_cafuego, dooglus: here is what I typed: export CFLAGS=-I/usr/include/qt3. Is this correct? It isn't working...07:52
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merlyso my wireless is up and running, blinking07:53
cozkade if you or anyone is interested here is the url for seagate's dikwizard download         http://www.seagate.com/support/disc/drivers/discwiz.html07:53
doogluswhyameye_: maybe it's being overridden in the makefile07:53
cozi use the cd version download it and vurn it to disck07:53
Nyctea!<factoid>07:53
ubotuNyctea: Bugger all, i dunno07:53
cozburn it to disk07:53
cozdamn fingers07:53
Pjani have it already07:53
Pjanits really work07:53
whyameye_dooglus: after the make command breaks, I check the value of CFLAGS and it is intact...07:54
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cozand that is diskwizard NOT dikwizard different thing altogether07:54
Nyctea!nvidia geforce07:54
ubotuNyctea: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?07:54
whyameye_so...back to my first question then, I suppose. For Debian binary, SID or SARGE?07:54
Nyctea!installation for graphic card07:54
abarbacciahey all - anybody know of good documentation to get crossover office to install the menu's into gnome07:54
abarbaccia?07:54
Pjan!freshmeat07:55
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cozI have used sarge for breezy but  I am not the one to answer that question with authority07:55
williamWhat does the direct rendering option in MPlayer do?07:55
levandercafuego: is that how i do it?07:55
chaumurkysorry mythman, don't use crossover.07:55
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liam01anyone have some good apt repos, or are the defaults breezy ones good?07:55
cozNo abarbaccia i haveu sed crossover office but couldn't get the items in gnome menu07:55
Nyctea!tell installation for graphic card07:56
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doogluswhyameye_: it would be.  the make subprocess can't touch the environment of its parent07:56
Nyctea!nvidia07:57
ubotunvidia is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736807:57
Madpilotliam01: you've got the Universe & Multiverse repos enabled?07:57
liam01ya07:57
liam01i took out the comments that came wit hthe install07:57
Pjan!ubuntu07:57
ubotumethinks ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards07:57
Madpilotliam01: then you've got over 15,000 packages to play with - let us know when you run out ;)07:57
Pjan!awards07:58
ubotuwell, awards is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubunturocks07:58
cdubyaheh07:58
liam01haha - k07:58
doogluswhyameye_: did you install gpio already?07:58
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whyameye_dooglus: yep.07:58
saik0Pjan, /msg ubotu07:58
liam01madpilot: anything fun to play with, im a programmer07:58
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doogluswhyameye_: ok, so I've got some catching up to do...07:59
Pjanok saik007:59
whyameye_dooglus: are you going to try it? If so, I'm hanging around. :-)07:59
cozYess liam01 create a desktop recorder that works07:59
liam01^.^08:00
williamSo, Debian is no longer the ugly ducking on the block, or is it just Ubuntu?08:00
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doogluswhyameye_: I'll have a go, yes.08:00
williamI just love Debian and its ilk because it gets rid of dependency hell for the most part.08:01
cozsoon the badger will transform into the beautiful duck08:01
Sneaky_BastardDebian and it's clan are now what Redhat used to be and more, I think08:01
Madpilotcoz: Drake is a dragon, not a waterfowl ;)08:01
williamWhat is Red Hat now?08:01
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cdubyaheh08:01
Sneaky_Bastardback when Redhat was still community friendly08:01
spo0nmanSneaky_Bastard: early 90's?08:02
cozI think, if they keep up this pace, that ubuntu will definately end up in homes instead of xp or vista08:02
liam01what do you guys think of CentOS?08:02
Sneaky_BastardI'll put it this way, Red Hat only pushes out Fedora as a collossal free beta test08:02
coz I am trying now to convince some clinets, residential, to switch to Ubuntu08:02
williamI own stock in Red Hat, but I haven't touched their software in years.08:02
spo0nmanSneaky_Bastard: redhat became evil around 97-98.08:02
frogzooSneaky_Bastard: but RedHat has the deals with IBM & HP08:02
Sneaky_BastardAnakin joined the Emperor, I fear08:02
Sneaky_Bastard:(08:02
williamWhat happend to Slackware?08:03
Sneaky_Bastardit's a tragedy, don't you know ?08:03
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floppyearshi08:03
cozdarth08:03
saik0coz, I'm a self-emplayoed computer technician. A few of my residential clients have made the switch08:03
doogluswhyameye_: slight delay while I remind myself how to use checkinstall...08:03
floppyearsI want to move my ubuntu install to a bigger partition08:03
doogluswhyameye_: (it's just "sudo checkinstall" by the looks of it)08:03
cozgood for you saik0 I am trying the same thing08:03
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whyameye_dooglus: okay. I'm here..08:03
floppyearsI once used a command along the lines of "tar -cf | tar -x"08:03
williamYou know the biggest mistake I made was buying OpenLinux08:03
cdubyacoz, I'm pushing it wherever I can....got a hoary box in the lab at school now...08:03
floppyearsor something, I can't remember what it was08:03
cdubyaadvisor's a linux fella08:03
saik0coz, just make SURE that ubuntu can fit ALL theirs needs. (small demographic)08:03
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cozOK but clean install that to breezy08:04
williamOpenLinux was like Windows but worse.08:04
williamHeck, it was owned by Caldera.08:04
cdubyaheh08:04
doogluswhyameye_: the build of libradio fails on rclock.cpp - is that what you see?08:04
cozwell I beliee unlike my genius nephew who disagreses, that Ubuntu, at this pace will be further along than red hat was at the same age08:04
williamThey'll probably use OpenLinux to sue someone.08:05
cozthis is definately going towards residnetial installs08:05
cdubyapres of Caldera used to be the former Novell CEO, wasn't it?08:05
whyameye_dooglus: yes.08:05
doogluswhyameye_: I'll look into it08:05
saik0coz dont forget about ubuntu server08:05
whyameye_dooglus: I got it past this at one point by copying the qt3 headers around...and now I can't seem to do that again...08:05
cdubyawhat's the biggest diff in the server install?08:05
coztrue but now that apple is going for the server market it is unlikely that ubuntu has room to catch up08:05
williamNo, the president of Caldera used to be the President of the company that was bought by Caldera.08:05
cozafter all mac is now unix08:05
doogluswhyameye_: I don't have the Qt libs on my PC...08:06
Madpilotcdubya: no X, no GUI stuff08:06
cozand they need the money08:06
cdubyaah, thanks08:06
williamMadpilot, are you a sado-masochist?:P08:06
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chaumurkyfloppyears: boot into a knoppix disk or something, mount both disks then use rsync -aS08:06
cdubyakinda like my first experience with linux08:06
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learnfromscratchhow do i find what x server driver i should use?? for my video card.. i am configuring my xserver-xfree8608:06
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doogluswhyameye_: qt3?  or qt4?08:06
williamWhen I first used Linux I liked using IceWM.08:06
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whyameye_dooglus: I installed qt3 because...is qt4 available for Hoary?08:07
cozeeww first experience with linux was f__rt08:07
doogluswhyameye_: oh, I missed that you were using hoary.08:07
cozI can't even NOt spella word correctly08:07
doogluswhyameye_: I'm on breezy, and qt3 doesn't seem to be available...08:07
saik0coz, I can definetly see a niche market for ubuntu server for businesses who want to pay for support given it's connection to Debian08:07
cozwell that is the key, if they are willing to pay for the support08:07
saik0And theres plenty of room to grow from there08:07
coz after all linux support starts at the lowest $1000 anhour08:08
cdubyaheh08:08
cozsorry $10008:08
Madpilotwilliam: hmm? I'm mostly a desktop user myself; cdubya just asked what the main difference was w/ the server install08:08
whyameye_dooglus: is there a way to know whether the developers are intending qt3 or qt4?08:08
doogluswhyameye_: I really don't know anything about Qt08:08
saik0coz, it's free. you only pay for the support. opt-in. unlike redhat etc.08:08
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doogluswhyameye_: (not even whether it's qt, Qt or QT...)08:08
chaumurkyha!08:08
coztrue but YOU will have to congure and support the server or desktop08:09
cozconfigure08:09
saik0coz, how is that different from any other distro/OS?08:09
doogluswhyameye_: I'm installing "libqt4-dev".  I'll let you know how it goes.08:09
cozsorry that is $100 an hour and yess it would be nice fi there were alot of linux residential or small businesses around me08:09
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doogluswhyameye_: you'll need more than just headers though I'll bet.  you'll need a "-dev" package for qt08:10
cozlinux support, from you, would bring in larger checks08:10
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whyameye_dooglus: cool.I'm up for upgrading to Breezy if that solves this.08:10
Glossaryhecking whether the C++ compiler (gcc  ) works... no08:10
Glossaryconfigure: error: installation or configuration problem: C++ compiler cannot create executables.08:10
GlossaryHow can i fix that?08:10
cozwindows is not a high paid support for the installer08:10
Glossary:s08:10
doogluswhyameye_: I'll let you know08:10
vbgunznone of my keyboard shortcuts work anymore... they just gave out... shift doesn't work either/ anyone know of a fix without restarting x/08:10
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doogluswhyameye_: apt-get isn't the fastest - it's still installing.08:10
floppyearschaumurky: will it work with all the /dev files08:10
Glossaryg++ dont work either08:10
chaumurkyyes08:10
cdubyaI'm trying to learn as much linux as I can.....my hope is to offer an open source server solution......biggest thing is I don't know if I'll be able to get businesses to give it a serious look, and I have a lot to learn....08:11
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La_PaRCaum, how do I play a podcast I just downloaded using ipodder?08:11
saik0coz If you can install windows you can ionstall ubuntu. And if you can configure a windows server you can (for the most part) configure a linux one in the same environment08:11
cozyou're right but linux brings i more money08:11
cozin08:11
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Glossaryhelp please08:11
cozdamn fingers!!08:12
cozglossary what's up08:12
Glossarycoz configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C++ compiler cannot create executables.08:12
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cozwhat version are you using?08:12
cozubuntu?08:12
Glossarybreezy08:12
saik0coz, a person who can administer multiplayform networks SHOULD make more money08:12
cozOK guys we have serious problem here can we have your input?08:12
williamWhere are these names coming from?08:13
williamI know that Microsoft uses cities.08:13
Glossarycoz me?08:13
cozGlossary needs the help08:13
cozfocus08:13
Glossaryfocusing.08:13
cozhelp Glossary08:13
Madpilotwilliam: you mean the Ubuntu release names? Mark Shuttleworth invented the system08:13
cozNo he didn't08:13
cdubyadon't know that I can help much.....I compile C++ stuff for class, but my knowledge is limited....08:14
williamThe names sound completly random08:14
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saik0william, it started as a joke. but it stuck08:14
Glossary(btw before that, i removed a folder called cpanel from /usr/local) was that stupid?08:14
cozPleas people help Glossary with this problem I will be of little use to them08:14
Madpilotwilliam: somewhere on the wiki there's a page where you can suggest name for future releases - some of them are... creative ;)08:14
cozprobably08:14
chaumurkyfloppyears: say you're moving from /mnt/hda1 to /mnt/hda2 - you go (as root) rsync -aSv /mnt/hda/. /mnt/hda2/.08:14
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Glossaryokay :) ... well anyway08:14
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Glossarycoz,  how can i fix it? the cpp ..08:15
cozcome on guys please help Glossary08:15
floppyearschaumurky: thanks08:15
liam01apt-get remove gcc      apt-get install gcc08:15
williamCpanel is for internet access to your PC, mostly for websites and such.08:15
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liam01=)08:15
cozUnfortunately Glossary this may be beyond me if i am understanding you correctly But someone here has the info you need if they would focus08:15
Glossaryliam01 was that for me?08:15
cdubyaGlossary, yep08:15
Glossarycoz okay thanks :)08:15
doogluswhyameye_: I found that running configure like this:   "./configure CPPFLAGS=-I/usr/include/qt4/Qt" got it to find the Qt headers...08:15
Glossarycdubya, would that work?08:15
liam01how do u add fav channels in xchat?08:16
cdubyaGlossary, he's having you remove the compiler and reinstall it08:16
chaumurkyoh, don't forget to reconfigure grub...08:16
saik0Ubuntu release names https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames?highlight=%28name%2908:16
Glossarychaumurky, me?08:16
Glossaryim lost now08:16
chaumurkyno, sorry, floppyears :-)08:16
whyameye_dooglus: thanks. I'm trying that with qt3 now...08:16
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liam01glassary that is what id do... but i dont know if itd fix for sure08:16
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cdubyaGlossary, what command did you use to compile?08:16
Glossaryliam01, ill try it thanks08:16
cozyeah guys don't sugest something without a step by step for this guy08:16
Glossarycdubya, ./configure08:16
whyameye_dooglus: cool. Gotta make a note of that CPPFLAGS stuff. Past the first hump....08:17
freelovei set to kdm.now i want gdm.how do i do this?08:17
liam01sudo apt-get remove gcc08:17
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liam01sudo apt-get install gcc08:17
cdubyaGlossary, do what liam suggested....08:17
liam01worth a shot08:17
Glossaryokay :)08:17
Glossarydoing it08:17
La_PaRCaAnyone know why my installation of iPodder keeps resetting itself to No Player even after I change it? This is the reason I cannot listen to any of the podcasts!08:17
williamWhere did this sudo program come from?08:17
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liam01its too a big a program to be futzing around with08:17
williamWhoever created it is a genius.08:17
liam01just reinstall08:18
doogluswhyameye_: it seems like we'll need two different -I flags due to the way the headers are organised.  more soon...08:18
saik0Glossary, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gcc08:18
Glossarynop.. didnt work08:18
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chaumurkyerrors?08:18
merlyguess who's wireless ? :)08:18
Strikewhats with the talking with -s?08:18
Glossarysame as before08:18
cozgood going merly08:18
freelovehow do i set ubuntu to use gdm.i had set it to kdm..plz help08:18
cdubyaGlossary, what are you trying to compile?08:18
Glossarycdubya, irc services...08:19
Strikeor +s ;-/08:19
liam01what happened glossary08:19
Glossaryliam01, giving the same error08:19
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merlyo.k. thanks for all your help everyone.08:19
cdubyamerly, congrats08:19
Strike;-p08:19
cozI am leaving guys so good night and remeber to eat spumoni08:19
merlycan you help me make it work every time?08:19
merlyi can't find rc.d08:19
chaumurkyspumoni? *googles*08:19
archigoshrmm08:19
doogluswhyameye_: this worked better, although there's still an error: ./configure CPPFLAGS="-I/usr/include/qt4 -I/usr/include/qt4/Qt"08:20
merlysomewhere i add this stuff, and it will come on at boot, right?08:20
liam01well it wont even uninstall for him08:20
saik0spumoni = delicios08:20
Glossarycuz later :)08:20
Glossaryliam01, i did uninstall08:20
Glossaryliam01, and reinstall but its not working08:20
chaumurkywow - spumoni! http://lezza.com/images/spummonicroped.jpg08:20
liam01oh it worked?08:20
liam01hmm08:20
Glossaryliam01,08:20
saik0Glossary, can I msg you?08:20
sammyicehow do i configure network settings when there no gui - i did a "server" install08:20
Glossarychecking whether the C++ compiler (gcc  ) works... no08:20
Glossaryconfigure: error: installation or configuration problem: C++ compiler cannot create executables.08:20
liam01u update the system?08:20
freelovehow do i set ubuntu to use gdm.......i had set it to kdm..............plz help me:(08:20
Glossarysaik0, sure08:20
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liam01sudo apt-get update08:21
whyameye_dooglus: I'm getting /bin/moc: Command not found now...08:21
liam01sudo apt-get upgrade08:21
liam01?08:21
chaumurkyfreelove: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm08:21
cdubyaGlossary, which gcc08:21
chaumurkythen choose gdm...08:21
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sammyicehow do i configure network settings when there no gui - i did a "server" install08:22
Glossarycdubya, what?08:22
cdubyaGlossary, if you type which gcc, what do it return?08:22
dooglusmoc?08:22
doogluswhat's that?08:22
cdubyadoes, even08:22
saik0sammyice, man interfacces08:23
saik0sammyice, er interfaces*08:23
Glossarycdubya, /usr/bin/gcc08:23
doogluswhyameye_: it's "moc - generate Qt meta object support code"08:23
whyameye_dooglus: I dunno, but I made a symbolic link to it, since it was on my machine somewhere else. Now I'm compiling again...hoping for no more errors. :-)08:23
cdubyaGlossary, k08:23
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La_PaRCaIs there a way to play my podcasts opening them thru ipodder?08:23
freelovechaumurky: thanks.got help after a long time today...08:23
chaumurkymy pleasure08:23
perdidopunki built a kernel and i'm getting kernel panics08:24
sammyicesaik0: thanks, had done that, thot there was a wizard or so...08:24
perdidopunkKernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!08:24
perdidopunkany idea what could be causing this ?08:24
chaumurkyouch!!08:24
perdidopunki built the damn thing like 6 times tonight... i'm starting to think i might just get another distro with more included device drivers08:24
bob2_wtf08:24
saik0sammyice, nah. it's failry straighforward though. then sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart08:25
bob2_what driver do you think is not in the ubuntu kernel?08:25
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perdidopunki'm thinking it's my raid card08:25
perdidopunkso i took my boot disk and put it on the motherboard ide slot08:25
bob2_how do you not know?08:25
perdidopunkbut still no dice08:25
perdidopunkwell08:25
whyameye_dooglus: I think I have a binary!08:25
perdidopunki made sure to build all the drivers i needed into the kernel08:25
perdidopunkbut08:25
bob2_no, stop08:25
perdidopunkkernel panics nonetheless08:25
bob2_what hardware does the default kernel not support?08:26
chaumurkymay need to compile raid card modult static in kernel??08:26
bob2_no08:26
perdidopunkapparently anything pci express ?08:26
bob2_e.g.?08:26
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bob2_you're making this pointlessly tedious for us both08:26
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GNAMwhy so many problems to have firefox 1.5 in dapper?08:26
GNAMsauauasusau08:26
chaumurkynot supported till Dapper GNAM:08:26
cdubyaGlossary, saik0 get you squared?08:27
GNAMwhat i've written?08:27
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perdidopunkhere's my specs: athlon 64 venice core, asus k8v-e deluxe mobo, radeon x1800xt, sil 0680 pci raid host controller with a striped set (that's windows though), 2 maxtor drives on the mobo ide bus08:27
chaumurkyahh, sorry you did say Dapper...08:27
GNAMauauaua08:27
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Glossarycdubya, we working on it08:27
Glossarythanks :)08:27
cdubyayep08:27
perdidopunkerm, i also have a firewire soundcard, but i'm not worrying about that at this point...08:27
cdubyanot that it was any help.08:27
cdubyaheh08:27
saik0cdubya, we took a step back to RTFM =)08:27
cdubyaheh08:27
perdidopunki'm upset that it installed drivers for my freaking webcam but i can't seem to get it to read the hard disks correctly08:27
cdubyapoint taken08:27
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bob2_perdidopunk: what in particular is not working?08:28
perdidopunki have no idea08:28
perdidopunkbecauoh wait08:28
chaumurkyoh dear08:28
bob2_perdidopunk: you need to take ten steps back and tell us what on earth is going on08:28
perdidopunktrying to ini scsi driver08:28
perdidopunkahhh08:28
perdidopunkyes08:28
bob2_perdidopunk: is some piece of hardware not working?08:28
perdidopunkit's the raid08:28
perdidopunki'm looking at a really ugly kernel panic right now08:28
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bob2_perdidopunk: in what way is it not working? what do you think it should be doing?08:28
perdidopunkerm08:28
bob2_perdidopunk: when using the default ubuntu kernel?08:28
chaumurkyis your boot drive on it?08:28
perdidopunkit should not be causing a kernel panic at startup...08:28
perdidopunkno08:28
bob2_perdidopunk: then use the ubuntu default, and tell us what happens08:28
perdidopunkwell08:29
perdidopunki used the ubuntu default08:29
perdidopunkbut that doesn't support my video card, which is pci express08:29
levanderIs anybody successfully manually installing themes in Firefox?  Via the drag and drop on the theme manager dialog method?08:29
perdidopunknor does it support my network card08:29
bob2_doesn't support?08:29
perdidopunkas in i can only boot to a terminal08:29
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perdidopunkX dies because it can't find any devices08:29
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saik0levander, trying to install from a local file?08:29
cdubyalevander, didn't know you could do it that way....I always installed them via the Themes menu08:29
bob2_sil06080 does not sound like an actual raid controller, btw08:29
perdidopunkfortunately radeon x1800xt has at least some hardware 2d support...08:29
perdidopunkit is08:30
perdidopunktrust me08:30
bob2_perdidopunk: does lspci list the device?08:30
chaumurkyWhat video card? I think that may be easier to fix08:30
levandersaik0: yeah, dragging the .jar theme file from nautilus to the firefox theme manager dialog isn't working08:30
williamWhat is better, ALSA, OSS or ESound?08:30
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humandoingHiya folx... I'm just about at my wits end, and just wondering if anyone might have some input or wisdom for me in getting either 5.04 or 5.1 installed08:30
chaumurkyahh sorry, wasn't lookin while typing08:30
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perdidopunki'd tell you if i didn't have a kernel panic right now :-D08:30
chaumurkyllo08:30
williamA lot of people seem to like ALSA.08:30
bob2_perdidopunk: so boot back into the ubuntu kernel08:30
perdidopunkradeon x1800xt 512MB, on pci express08:30
saik0levander try doing File > Open. I know it works with extensions.08:30
humandoingI've installed both successfully, on different occasions, but what happens after I reboot is I just get dumped to the grub command line. :(08:30
perdidopunkwhen i try to boot the ubuntu kernel it loads the modules for the new kernel...08:30
perdidopunkif you could tell me how to fix that i might be ok08:31
levandercdubya: how do you install them from the themes menu?08:31
perdidopunkbrrb08:31
bob2_perdidopunk: uh, go find a boot cd08:31
humandoingI'm using the regular install CD's, and the install is successful, and on reboot I just get dumped to the grub command prompt, and it won't boot.08:31
bob2_and don't do silly things like that again08:31
cdubyalevander, where did you get the theme from?08:31
chaumurkyheh08:31
perdidopunki have a boot cd08:31
williamlevander, system menu08:31
perdidopunkalright08:31
perdidopunklet me reboot with the ubuntu cd08:31
williampreferences, theme08:31
williamIt's simple08:31
cdubyalevander, tools > themes > get more themes08:31
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perdidopunki forget how to get to console from the ubuntu cd08:32
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bob2_perdidopunk: alt-f208:32
cdubyalevander, that help?08:32
levandercdubya: not sure why you want to know where from, but i got it from here: http://www.finalstar.com/grayfox/graymodern0.6.2.jar08:32
perdidopunkthx08:32
merlygoing to try a reboot to see if my modifications will make it come up at boot...08:32
cdubyalevander, I was just wondering if it came from the addons site....if so, it's easier to do it through the themes menu08:33
levandercdubya: yeah, and "get more themes" menu options brings up a dialog, then what do you do?08:33
levandercdubya: no, it didn't come from the addons site, and it doesn't have an "install now" button where I got it from08:33
cdubyalevander, just click on the ones you want to see, then make sure if you like them to click on the Install now link08:33
perdidopunkerm08:33
perdidopunkalt+f2 isn't giving me a console ?08:34
saik0levander Did you try what I said?08:34
cdubyalevander, then you just restart FF and you're good to choose it.....08:34
bob2_sil 0680 appears to be also known as "medley", -> http://linux.yyz.us/sata/faq-sata-raid.html#sii08:34
levandercdubya: there is no "install now" link where I got this theme from08:34
levandercdubya: i have to install it manually08:34
bob2_perdidopunk: and you're hitting alt-f2 when?08:34
cdubyalevander, that's why I asked where you got it from....;)08:34
perdidopunkat the prompt as soon as i boot the ubuntu cd08:34
humandoingany takers on my grub boot prompt :-\08:34
bob2_perdidopunk: then boot the installer08:34
perdidopunki'm just not familiar at all with debian or ubuntu, that's why i'm having problems08:34
perdidopunki come from redhat08:34
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perdidopunkok08:35
perdidopunkgot a console up08:35
perdidopunknow08:35
perdidopunkwhere is my system drive mounted...08:35
bob2_it's not08:35
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whyameye_dooglus: just checking in with you. I'm compiling rivendell now.... With the CPPFLAGS trick...so far...so good. Really generous of you to help me so much...08:35
eobanbsomeone find me a good metacity theme08:36
levanderwhoever suggested I try opening it from File -> Open File, that didn't work either.  It wants me to either open it with Archive Manager, or save the file to the disk on the Open File dialog.08:36
perdidopunkor rather08:36
cdubyalevander, from what I'm reading, the drag and drop method suggested earlier should work for you08:36
perdidopunkwhere is the device so that i can mountit08:36
perdidopunksorry08:36
levandercdubya: i was the one who suggested the drag and drop method, it didn't work08:36
levandercdubya: you want to try to download that them I linked to above and see if it works for you?08:36
HiddenFlyHmm... If I wanna put a script to run 24:01 every night, should I put it 1 00 * * * or 1 24 * * *?08:37
bob2_HiddenFly: where is 24:01 a valid time?08:37
HiddenFlydunno :D08:37
levanderHiddenFly: is 24 the minutes?08:37
_jasonlevander, sometimes the theme is inside the archive, try to extract it and see if there is an INSTALL file, or another package inside08:37
HiddenFlyno 24 is hours08:37
HiddenFlywell, thanks bob2_ :D08:37
perdidopunk000108:37
bob2_it'd be the former then ;p08:37
levanderHiddenFly: 24 isn't a valid number of hours, it's 0-2308:37
bob2_23 hour time!08:38
perdidopunkhey bob, where can i find the hard drives from the shell on the install cd08:38
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levanderif you mean midnight, it's 0 1 * * *08:38
HiddenFlyk08:38
GTroy_try e17 you'll like it!!!!!08:38
quackerperdidopunk, try hdparm08:38
bob2_perdidopunk: you need to mount them, I have no idea what device your / was08:39
perdidopunkwell08:39
perdidopunkthey're not in /dev08:39
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perdidopunkthey should be hd---08:39
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perdidopunkwhere --- is one of my various partitions08:39
quackerhardinfo08:39
perdidopunkthere are a lot...08:39
quackerand dmesg08:39
whyameye_just 1/2 hour ago, somebody mentioned how to find what package has a particular file. What was this again? I thought it was apt-find but this isn't right...08:39
perdidopunkhrmm08:39
perdidopunkdmesg | grep hd doesn't give me any hard disk devices :-/08:40
quackeralso you can sfdisk through the list of possiblities from /dev/hdda to /dev/sdz08:40
irvinwhyameye_, apt-cache search08:40
perdidopunkthey're not in dev08:40
perdidopunkuhh08:40
bob2_perdidopunk: perhaps those modules aren't loaded until you get the partitioning stage of the installer08:40
irvinwhyameye_, sorry not that08:40
perdidopunkahhh08:40
perdidopunkprobably08:40
bob2_alt-f1 and continue it until then08:40
perdidopunkgood call08:40
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liam01dpkg -l08:40
quackerperdidopunk, jsut scroll through dmesg with |less08:40
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liam01dpkg -s08:40
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perdidopunkor more08:40
cdubyalevander, got it.08:41
quackerIf Linux can even see em they'll be there08:41
liam01one of those08:41
levandercdubya: got what?08:41
perdidopunkloading modules now...08:41
chaumurkyperididopunk: I think you will need to change the "driver" entry in /etc/X11/xorg.conf from "ati" to "vesa". You should get X then untill you get the driver issue sorted.08:41
cdubyalevander, got that theme to install08:41
perdidopunkthere we go08:41
chaumurkybrb08:41
perdidopunkoh god08:41
levandercdubya: how??08:41
perdidopunkhdc, hdc1, hdd, hde, hde1, hde2, hde5, hde6, hdf, hdf1, hdf2, hdf3, hdg, hdh.... what a mess08:42
cdubyalevander, drag and drop08:42
levandercdubya: drag from where?08:42
perdidopunkmount is giving me invalid argument ?08:42
perdidopunkwtf08:42
levanderperdidopunk: paste your mount command08:42
perdidopunkmount /dev/hdc /matt08:43
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cdubyalevander, it was weird, though, I had to hold the file over the theme window as if to activate that window, then once I did, I dropped it and got a prompt to copy it.....08:43
cdubyalevander, from the desktop08:43
levanderperdidopunk: does /matt exist?  do an 'ls -l /matt' to make sure08:43
liam01sudo mounnt?08:43
whyameye_irvin: it's auto-apt search08:43
levandercdubya: lemme try08:43
Glossaryanybody know where i can get ACE?08:44
perdidopunkyeah08:44
perdidopunki mkdir'd it08:44
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kaydeok guys, i am runniong ubuntu 5.04 and i use a trident microsystems cyber 9525 vidio card and i have funny lines across bottom of screen......anyone know bout it?08:44
perdidopunknah, i'm already root i assume08:44
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quackerperdidopunk, your /dev/hda ~/hdb (/dev/sda) should be found as soon as Linux enumerates ide (or SCSI) controllers at boot and ubuntu automounts everything without an explicit mount point under /media/* unless you tell it not to08:44
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whomeeehmmm does ubuntu scramble a root password if doing a standard install?08:45
perdidopunki'm booted into some shell from the install cd08:45
chaumurkyahh08:45
perdidopunkdon't have the luxury of all that fancy stuff08:45
quackerperdidopunk, unless you booted a  'recovery kernel' or did su after setting a root password 'manually' you will *bnot* be root08:45
perdidopunkmy plan is to mount the disk and then chroot in08:45
crimsunwhomee: yes08:45
whomeecrimsun, well how do i change it?08:46
perdidopunkneither08:46
perdidopunkit's on a ram disk08:46
cvtwhen install ubuntu dvd on amd 64 it stops at a A\: command prompt, what do i do?08:46
crimsunsudo -s, then passwd08:46
perdidopunkthis is the console you get straight from the cd08:46
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perdidopunksu and sudo aren't even in this thing...08:46
chaumurkyso you can't boot to the default kernel? Did you remove it?08:47
quackerperdidopunk, you're using the live CD huh?  Why not just use the installer?08:47
perdidopunkuhh08:47
perdidopunki guess i am using the installer08:47
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perdidopunkalt+f2 after booting the install cd08:47
perdidopunkno, all the kernels that are there are giving me kernel panics08:48
chaumurkyyou won't evenhave bash will you?08:48
perdidopunkthe default kernel keeps trying to load the new kernel's modules for some reason...08:48
La_PaRCaUm, anyone have any idea why ubuntu isnt auto mounting my ipod?08:48
chaumurkyodd08:48
perdidopunki'm using sh08:48
levandercdubya: thanks man, it was that bit about the focus.  I got my desktop set so that focus follows the mouse, I had to do wierd stuff with the mouse to make sure the firefox theme manager had the focus when I dropped it.  Thanks a *lot* for your help.  I now have my favorite firefox theme installed after having been meaning to do it for months.08:48
floppyearsI would test your ram, and your livecd08:48
floppyearsto make sure that those are not the problem08:48
perdidopunkwho, me ?08:48
whomeecrimsun, i did sudo -s .. when asked for a password what should i type? a new one?08:48
perdidopunki know my ram isn't the problem... it's good stuff08:49
perdidopunkand as far as the cd goes, i burned it earlier today and checked it then08:49
crimsunwhomee: type your user's password, not root's (you can't know root's)08:49
chaumurkythat may be a red herring floppyears, apparently he's had success with RedHat08:49
kaydeok guys, i am runniong ubuntu 5.04 and i use a trident microsystems cyber 9525 vidio card and i have funny lines across bottom of screen......anyone know bout it?08:49
whomeecrimsun, haha my bad :P08:49
whyameye_dooglus: I can't thank you enough for getting me started with the rivendell compiling. I'm still tweaking the CPP and now LD flags. I gotta go to bed now. Maybe tomorrow morning there will be a binary waiting for me....08:49
whomeecrimsun, thx alot08:50
floppyearsperdidopunk: then make sure that it's not your cd by running a checksum on it08:50
perdidopunkdid that08:50
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chaumurkyfloppyears: the original kernel panic is from a kernel install on the HDD08:50
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floppyearschaumurky: oh08:50
wanglei1123hi , anyone : )08:50
perdidopunkugh08:50
perdidopunkevery single kernel gives me kernel panic08:50
perdidopunki might just wipe this and start over08:51
floppyearschaumurky: what is the kernel panic about hd, memory, ?08:51
wanglei1123i wanna know , what script do the hardware scaning of installing ubuntu08:51
wanglei1123and what scripts recognize your scsi device and modprobe it ?08:51
wanglei1123so anyone could help me , pls : )08:51
chaumurkysounds like a mess. May be a good idea. When you've done that change the "driver" entry in /etc/X11/xorg.conf from "ati" to "vesa". You should get X then untill you get the driver issue sorted.08:51
perdidopunkKernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill ini!08:51
cdubyalevander, glad it worked.....08:51
perdidopunkdamn that'll be slow...08:51
perdidopunkbut at least it'll work08:51
perdidopunkah man08:52
perdidopunki'll have to do that whole build-essential thing again08:52
chaumurkyyeah, but there's info here about getting the latest modules installed - ubuntu style: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=40811108:52
perdidopunki don't understand why it puts openoffice in but doesn't install compilers by default...08:52
perdidopunki can't even think of another reason to use linux besides programming08:52
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crimsunwanglei1123: udev and hotplug handle that in Warty/Hoary/Breezy08:52
perdidopunkwell, i can't do that because ubuntu doesn't see my net card08:52
crimsunwanglei1123: udev has subsumed hotplug's functionality in Dapper, so hotplug has been removed08:53
perdidopunki'm trying to use 5.04, btw08:53
perdidopunkbecause that's what i could get off the network here08:53
chaumurkygot noother boxen for the DL?08:53
juppis there a diskmonitor in ubuntu08:53
chaumurkyjupp: in gdesklets, yes08:53
wanglei1123crimsum: so udev can detect , recognize and modprobe my scsi : )08:53
liam01perdidopunk have them send you 5.1008:53
liam01takes  about 3 week though -.-08:53
perdidopunkyeah08:53
wanglei1123crimsum: so udev can detect , recognize and modprobe my scsi devices : ) ?08:53
perdidopunkby that time i could have it downloaded08:53
chaumurkyhahahaha!!08:53
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perdidopunki wanted to get linux up and running on that box tonight08:54
perdidopunkstarted around 608:54
perdidopunklooks like that's not happening...08:54
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liam01ouch08:54
chaumurkywhat does lspci give for your NIC08:54
liam01no software changes?08:54
perdidopunkdoesn't even detect it08:54
chaumurkyoh, sorry - no boot....08:54
liam01might be better just to wait until you get 51008:54
crimsunwanglei1123: in Dapper, yes.08:54
perdidopunki think it might be a pci express card08:54
liam01its a bit smoother imo08:55
perdidopunki never bothered to look before -- it's onboard08:55
chaumurkyyeah, 5.10 is far more advanced08:55
crimsunwanglei1123: in Warty/Hoary/Breezy, udev+hotplug perform that.08:55
chaumurkynew hardware -> new software....08:55
perdidopunkyeah basically...08:55
perdidopunkthat's the price i pay for having a new system08:55
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davidmccabeStrange:08:55
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davidmccabeupdate-notifier just suddenyl started eating up my CPU and making the system trash.08:56
chaumurkywhen did iyou buy it?08:56
davidmccabeThat's an ubuntu daemon, right?08:56
perdidopunkand i have a computer architecture quiz at 8:40am on i/o buses... how ironic that i should be fighting with my hard drives right now08:56
perdidopunkerm08:56
perdidopunkit's been put together in stages08:56
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perdidopunkcpu/mobo/ram were bought in august08:56
perdidopunkvid card is brand new08:57
chaumurkypci express - can't be that old08:57
kaydeok guys, i am runniong ubuntu 5.04 and i use a trident microsystems cyber 9525 vidio card and i have funny lines across bottom of screen......anyone know bout it?08:57
perdidopunkhard disks are all various ages and reused from a previous system08:57
perdidopunkand the raid card is from 200208:57
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chaumurkyahh - hoary ->  April08:57
perdidopunkyeah08:57
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perdidopunkit definitely didn't like my video card08:57
liam01kayde you might want to file a bug report, or see if that card has any known issues08:58
perdidopunkdunno what the deal with the nic is08:58
juppchaumurky: i dont understand gdesklets, i there another diskmonitor?08:58
perdidopunkkayde, try installing the latest ati video drivers08:58
perdidopunki assume 9525 is a radeon r300 based card08:58
wanglei1123crimsun: thanks you soooo much first, and in Breezy , there is no scripts do the hardware scaning, it is handled by udev and hotplug daemon? automatically recongize them when i'm installing ubuntu :)  ? .08:58
chaumurkysteal som other boxen bandwidth for a while and get Breezy. Best bet08:58
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perdidopunki've got my roommate's computer working on the download too08:58
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chaumurkynice08:59
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perdidopunkgonna take a while though... network's slow tonight08:59
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GTroy_if I don't have a file manager and don't have a list of my apps, what directory would I look in?08:59
perdidopunk~140kbps08:59
chaumurkyanyway - if still no joy go VESA until you compile the new driver.08:59
perdidopunkhehe08:59
cdubyagonna call it a night. take care, all08:59
perdidopunktried to compile the new driver08:59
sammyiceanyone know of a reporting engine one could use? something like Crystall reports on Windows?08:59
perdidopunki got some other error... it was running into some other package...08:59
perdidopunki forget, that was a few hours ago08:59
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perdidopunki think i finally got it installed by converting the rpm to a deb and doing --force-overwrite09:00
kaydeperdidopunk, ...please tell me the site09:00
perdidopunkwww.ati.com09:00
chaumurkydid you follow this guide? : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=40811109:00
wanglei1123crimsun: hi ? :) .09:00
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perdidopunkcustomer care or support or something09:00
perdidopunkdrivers and downloads09:00
crimsunwanglei1123: yes, that's correct09:00
perdidopunklook for linux09:00
rjordanGlossary: you sir are a fucktard.09:01
kaydeperdidopunk, ok ty09:01
perdidopunkno problem09:01
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perdidopunkgood luck getting them to compile though...09:01
perdidopunkhaha09:01
sammyiceperdidopunk: look for linux?09:01
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perdidopunki had trouble with that but i forget what i did now09:01
perdidopunkyeah09:01
perdidopunkati has linux drivers09:01
kaydeaww09:01
Glossaryrjordan, wtf why?09:01
perdidopunkbut they're buried in this annoying sidebar thing09:01
cameronberghanyone here in oregon?09:01
gary_seattle here09:01
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_roman_hello i'm newbie in ubuntu09:01
cameronberghim starting a portland LoCo09:02
rjordanGlossary: it's not nice to troll other channels.09:02
gary_awesome09:02
gary_noticed none in seattle09:02
gary_suprising09:02
Glossaryrjordan, lick my balls.09:02
_roman_can someone help connect by modem through internet09:02
perdidopunkkayde also read the thread that chau sent me09:02
wanglei1123crimsum: but which program modprobe them ?  where is the code ? in other words, what is the script name ? :) .09:02
perdidopunkhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=40811109:02
rjordanGlossary: again, very clever...09:02
_roman_is somewhere in the web a tutorial09:02
Glossaryrjordan, yes thank you.. have fun with my anus too..09:02
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perdidopunkhmmm09:03
perdidopunkif shakes(i)09:03
perdidopunk> 309:03
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perdidopunkif he shakes more than 3 times bad gets 1 ? huh ?09:03
gary_has anyone been using ubuntu for digital photos?09:03
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GTroy_gary_: is the new gimp out?09:04
gary_not sure. haven't checked. gimp is leader?09:04
fr500how can i download a package source?09:04
perdidopunkwell, while i'm waiting for this i guess i'll stare at my hardware monitor in my bios09:04
chaumurkyawww...09:04
GTroy_yeah, the new one is supposed to rival photoshop09:04
perdidopunkconsidering that my super duper computer can't even boot to anything right now09:04
perdidopunkcurrent cpu temp: 19C :D09:04
chaumurkywell, anything that old...09:05
wanglei1123crimsun: hi crimsum , i am waiting for you to answermy last question : ) ..09:05
gary_nice09:05
gary_checking now09:05
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wanglei1123crimsun: hi crimsum , i am waiting for you to answer my last question : ) ..09:05
gary_ubuntu install comes with gimp 2.209:05
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chaumurkywanglei1123: strike 2 :-P09:06
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gary_yep, it's the latest09:07
wanglei1123chaumurky: udev recognize my scsi devices, and modprobe it too????!! :) ..09:07
Ven0mSevenXhi09:07
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crimsunwanglei1123: see /etc/udev and /etc/hotplug for configuration files and rules09:07
perdidopunki wish my scsi devices were working...09:08
mbsif i want to make a particular binary in /usr/local/bin take precedence over /usr/bin, how can i set this sytemwide?09:08
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wanglei1123ok , thanks all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)09:08
Ven0mSevenXis there anyone here knowledgable about wireless devices and linux?09:08
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perdidopunk!!!09:08
ubotu! is, like, totally, what you add before a sentence to talk to me09:08
Noserver ircchat.terra.cl 700009:08
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juppis it possible to show the entries of the mbr? how?09:08
crimsunwanglei1123: the actual module insertion is handled by insmod, passed by modprobe with dependency resolution according to a map09:08
perdidopunkmaybe i'll trying some overclocking while i'm waiting !!09:08
mbsI've always used export in ~/.bashrc to make all of /usr/local/bin hav precedence, but that feels like a ginormous hack09:08
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irvinhey robotgeek_work09:09
chaumurkyoverclock that BIOS baby09:09
Ven0mSevenXanyone?09:09
chaumurkyno09:09
wanglei1123crimsum: ok , thank u sooooooooooooooooooooooooo much !! : ) ..09:09
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Ven0mSevenXdoes anyone here use ndiswrapper?09:10
Ven0mSevenXor have set up wireless devices sucessfully?09:10
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perdidopunklet09:11
perdidopunks see09:11
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Ven0mSevenXhave you?09:11
diubidonehey how come repositories don't work?09:11
mbsVen0mSevenX, yes, I used to use ndiswrapper09:11
mbsa long time ago09:11
perdidopunki think 200->220 is a good enough overclock09:11
Ven0mSevenXmbs: okay well i got it working great, my problem comes when actually connecting to my router09:12
irvindiubidone, they are. what's the problem?09:12
perdidopunkposted... let's see if i can get to my kernel panic09:12
perdidopunkhahaha09:12
Ven0mSevenXi use "wifiradar09:12
Ven0mSevenX"09:12
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perdidopunkkernel panic, woo09:12
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perdidopunkwait09:12
perdidopunkor not09:12
Ven0mSevenXit just gets stuck when i try to connect09:12
diubidoneirwin: synaptic says to me it doesn't find some reps09:12
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perdidopunkpci devices not available because of resource collisions...09:13
perdidopunkhmmm09:13
mbsah, i'm not familiar with it09:13
irvindiubidone, are you trying to update or install new packages?09:13
chaumurkythat sounds promising - try rearranging cards...09:13
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perdidopunkthere are only 2 cards to begin with09:13
diubidoneirwin:  yes xfce09:13
perdidopunkusb controller and raid card09:13
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chaumurky"GRUB loading, please wait..." hmm what's that burning smell?/?09:14
perdidopunkhahaha09:14
diubidoneirwin: synaptic "http://it.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/it.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)"09:14
mindmimelol09:14
perdidopunki set my frequency back down09:14
perdidopunkah well...09:14
perdidopunkthis motherboard sucks for overclocking, but everything else i have would be so good for it :-(09:15
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perdidopunkblam, kernel panic09:15
perdidopunkuhhh09:15
VIMmerhi, i have a HP Deskjet 656C and am on Breezy09:15
perdidopunkfdomain_isa_detect09:15
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VIMmeri am unable to get the printer to work on Ubuntu09:15
perdidopunkisa ??? why is it trying to detect isa devices ?09:15
VIMmercan anyone help me?09:15
VIMmerit was working on hoary09:15
chaumurkytry pulling the heatsink off. You may get this... :http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=539390470426575705409:16
czrdon't use future domain scsi driver perdidopunk09:16
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perdidopunkAHHH09:17
perdidopunkdoes that say 4.2 volts vcore ??? AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA09:17
perdidopunkHAHAHAHA09:17
perdidopunkWOW09:17
chaumurkyblows a hole clean through the table...09:17
perdidopunkit actually exploded !!!09:18
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chaumurkysee - things could be worse...09:18
perdidopunktrue that09:18
chaumurkyyou could be an idiot!09:18
chaumurkyLOL!!09:18
perdidopunkthat's what happens when your frequency scaling doesn't work properly because the temp sensing diode can't react fast enough...09:18
perdidopunkhahaha09:18
VIMmerwhat? isn't there anyone who can help me setup my printer?09:19
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docta_vVIMmer, only god09:19
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chaumurkyno info, no help..09:20
Madpilot!printer09:20
uboturumour has it, printer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org09:20
mrkojeVIMmer,  i hate printing with linux... I did end up getting my hp all in one to work though09:20
chaumurkydon't believerumours09:21
Madpilot...and on that note, I'm off. Good night all...09:21
mrkojeVIMmer, i didn't have to do anything though!09:21
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VIMmeric09:25
unlessNoobish question, I know, but I just installed a package through Synaptic (GNU Go, to be specific), not I can't find it... anyone know where programs are typically installed?09:25
unless*now09:25
chaumurkywhat program09:25
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unlessGNU Go, just a game09:26
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chaumurkybinaries are usually in /usr/bin/ or /usr/local/bin/09:26
unlessahhhh, so programs are typically installed to /usr...09:26
unlessthanks heaps09:26
czrunless, dpkg -L package-name : lists all the filenames that were introduces with a package09:26
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czrunless, man hier09:27
unlessthanks czr09:27
unlessand chaumurky09:27
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_jasonsaik0, hi09:39
saik0It's alive! A miracle!09:39
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saik0Ahem. hi.09:39
_jasonlol09:39
mrkojesaik0, great!09:39
_jasonheh, so this is what the channel is like at 4 in the morning est... quiet...09:40
saik0You say 'quiet' I call it 'serene'09:41
crimsunnot necessarily a bad thing ;)09:41
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bustacaphey guys..09:42
_jasonhey bustacap...09:43
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bustacapwhat's happening _jason??09:43
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ompaulshhh ubuntu is spreading09:44
kaydeok guys, i am runniong ubuntu 5.04 and i use a trident microsystems cyber 9525 vidio card and i have funny lines across bottom of screen......anyone know bout it?09:44
bustacapompaul, haha yeah, it's asexually multiplying..09:44
ompaulkayde, nope, but I am wondering why you are running 5.04 as opposed to 5.1009:45
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shilbertHallo!09:45
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shilbertUm, I have a quick question for you guys09:46
ompaul!ask09:46
greg[;09:46
kaydeompaul, i cant download it09:46
ompaul!+ask09:46
ubotuask is probably Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important. Better questions more frequently yield better answer. Keeping the question in one line makes it easier to read. See also http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html09:46
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ompaulkayde, http://shipit.ubuntu.com09:47
shilbertI had a hard drive go bad, and I got a backup of my root partition (no separate /home partitions or anything), but not my /boot partition09:47
ompaulkayde, request a set09:47
shilbertAnd I'm in knoppix at the moment with my old FS all mounted, and if I chroot to it I can run apt-get and so on09:47
shilbertSo if it's possible to just "re-install" the kernel packages I had, just to get the vmlinuz files and such back, it would be very helpful09:48
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shilbert(because then I could just boot directly into it just like it was before the HD problem)09:48
shilbertI don't know very much about apt-get and the whole debian/ubuntu package management tools :)09:49
ompaulshilbert, my du -h of /boot/ yeilds 23 megs09:49
ompaulshilbert, have you a new drive?09:49
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gregapt-get is rather not so complicated.. and afaik you can use synaptic (a graphical user interface addon on apt-get)09:50
shilbertYeah. I got a replacement drive. The drive kind of died in sections - the windows partition failed, and then for a while I was running the linux partition while I was waiting for the replacement drive to ship09:50
ompaulshilbert, are you going to bother reinstalling that non ubuntu operating system?09:51
shilbertWoo, synaptic runs09:51
shilbertI guess I can just find the kernel packages and tell it to mark for reinstallation09:52
shilbertthat and grub09:52
ompaulshilbert, don't do anything with the old drive assuming that you don't know exactly what is dying on it - I ask again are you going to bother reinstalling that non ubuntu operating system?09:52
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ompaulshilbert, umount it and think for a minute09:52
shilbertUmm, first thing - yes, I am going to reinstall windows; second thing - the drive actually has failed totally since I got my linux partition backed up09:53
shilbertthe old drive.09:53
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shilbertActually, I'm not really 'reinstalling' windows, I ghosted it about a week before it started failing09:54
cmatheson_this is a stupid question... but i can't figure it out!  Does anyone know how to change the color of slides in OpenOffice Impress?09:55
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shilbertWhy do you ask? I don't need to come in here for peoples' opinions of what OS to install09:56
ompaulshilbert, okay well I would only rescue /etc/ and /home you don't know what blocks actually failed on the old drive - if it was physical or logical - so first up split the new drive in 4 one partition for the old stuff,  one for that non ubuntu system, reinstall that other operating system first reinstall ubuntu and then copy the data you need back onto it using the third slice for /home and then you can do what you want with the fort09:57
ompaulh segment when finished09:57
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CarstenPmy compact flash card reader is read only. how can i change that?09:59
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shilbertI am pretty sure what happened is that some bad clusters showed up after I had moved this computer to another room and back. They started about 2 GB into the "non-ubuntu system" partition, and seemed to be isolated to about the middle of that area10:01
gregedit /etc/fstab and change ro to rw10:01
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shilbertI hadn't been in the linux partition on this machine in a while, but I was able to copy everything off with no huge slowdowns or errors while reading -- so it doesn't seem like there were bad sectors in this part of the disk10:02
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ompaulshilbert, well I gave you the most paranoid version of what I would do, I certainly would have no confidence in the binaries from there - what if init was damaged or other stuff that would be my concern10:02
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shilbertI'm not really concerned with the partitioning scheme ATM though; I think I found out what I need to know to get this running10:02
shilbertYeah, that's true -- I have no way of really knowing the binaries work.10:03
shilbertI still have a "raw" backup sitting on an external hard drive - if I boot from it and it garbles it, I haven't lost anything at all10:04
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shilbertIf I boot from the new hard drive, I mean.10:04
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shilbertIs there an apt-get parallel to synaptic's "mark for reinstallation?" Synaptic bugs out when I try to apply changes from within this chroot environment10:05
shilbert(hopefully it's the environment and not the binaries :P)10:05
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ompaulshilbert, I would imagine it is as you suggest - sudo apt-get install foo foo2 foo44 foo5010:06
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shilbertWell, see, since it caches the list of packages I have installed, it just assumes it's still installed10:06
shilbertwhen I've lost part of the files to go with it10:07
shilbertlet me try apt-get reinstall10:07
frogzooompaul: works for me10:07
shilberthmm, no such thing10:07
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shilbertahh, there's a --reinstall switch10:07
ompaulshilbert, you could at least use a ubuntu live CD and get the same results10:07
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ompaulshilbert, and your repos just might be pointing somewhere sane10:08
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ompaulanyway enough chat - chat in #ubuntu-offtopic this has turned into a $meta_coversation about confidence, me well I am off to enjoy coffee and toast10:09
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Inf3ctedFxHello everyone10:24
walkingiceInf3ctedFx: Hello~~10:24
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Inf3ctedFxHey walkingice how r u... kind of quite here.... isn't it?10:25
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MrBlowtatoesHello10:26
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walkingiceInf3ctedFx:  yup :D      (sorry, I am not good in English  :P)10:26
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MrBlowtatoescan someoen refresh my memory, is there a command similar to apt-get i can use in a vannila debian install, to turn my diustro into ubuntu?..i rmeebr soemthgin liek this, but it ahs lost me10:26
Inf3ctedFxdont worry walkingice  me neither lol10:26
walkingiceinfernall:      :-)10:27
Inf3ctedFxjust  a simple question, do u know a better website to downdload skins for xmms and gnome? beside gnome-look?10:27
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saik0Inf3ctedFx art.gnome.org10:28
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Inf3ctedFxohh ok thx that website also to get skins for xmms?10:28
saik0Inf3ctedFx, nope10:28
saik0xmms skins are winamp2 skins10:28
Glossarydo you know how i can download hybrid with its services?10:28
Glossary:P10:28
Inf3ctedFxdo u know the website?10:28
ompaulMrBlowtatoes, which debian are you running expermential or woody/sarge?10:28
Glossaryand where would they be after installation? not the deb files!10:28
soundrayMrBlowtatoes, you would use apt-get for that. Just make sure you have an Ubuntu repositories file (/etc/apt/sources.list)10:28
MrBlowtatoessarge10:29
saik0Glossary: all over the place10:29
Glossarylol10:29
Glossarylater man10:29
Glossarygoodnight/morning #ubuntu10:29
Glossaryim outty10:29
ompaulMrBlowtatoes, well I would not do it then, as sarge was released later than 5.10 iirc10:29
MrBlowtatoesok, but here si the thing, currently, my  OS installation is roughly @GB, will migrateing to ubuntu increase this size? [i have an 8gb HD, so it is not a good thing] 10:30
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ompaulMrBlowtatoes, if you were on woody I would say fire away10:30
MrBlowtatoessarge is out dated10:30
saik0ompaul pretty sure sarge release was before 5.10 freeze10:30
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saik0MrBlowtatoes, sarge is'nt outdated, it's stable =)10:30
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MrBlowtatoesstable shable10:30
soundrayI upgraded sarge to breezy without much of a problem.10:30
MrBlowtatoesshmable*10:30
MrBlowtatoeshow do i go about doign this?, without increaseing my OS space too much?10:31
Inf3ctedFxi did it from horay to breezy .. really easy... in the ubuntu forum will show u how10:31
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MrBlowtatoesubuntuforums.org?10:31
ompaulsaik0,  Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 (a.k.a. sarge) was released on 6th of June, 200510:31
MrBlowtatoesalready got a pos tthere about this10:31
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saik0breezy uses gcc 410:31
ompaul5.10 was released in april10:31
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ompaulsorry october10:32
walkingiceInf3ctedFx:  http://thelinuxbox.org/Artwork.php   <--- I get the skin for my xmms10:32
soundrayMrBlowtatoes, since you have 8 Gig, I would just do the upgrade, then weed out unneeded packages.10:32
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Inf3ctedFxthx walkingice10:32
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MrBlowtatoesubtunu uses yeah, the weeding is the hard part [i am what some would call a n00b to linux] 10:32
MrBlowtatoeser10:32
MrBlowtatoesi changed idea sin mid sentance there10:32
ompaulMrBlowtatoes http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/232510:33
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ompaulthat is the list of repos that you need10:33
MrBlowtatoespaste this into sources.list?10:33
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saik0MrBlowtatoes apt-get upgrade wont really take any more space. installing ubuntu-desktop will10:33
MrBlowtatoeser10:33
MrBlowtatoescan i use KDE [which i already ahve insatlled] 10:33
MrBlowtatoes?10:34
MrBlowtatoesubuntu-desktop is a desktop environmnt right?10:34
ompaulMrBlowtatoes, really I would d/l a cd called kubuntu and install from scratch10:34
MrBlowtatoesno cd burner10:34
ompaulMrBlowtatoes, ubuntu is gnome10:34
MrBlowtatoesi did, how ever, order 5 free cds10:34
MrBlowtatoesi'm not going to use gnome10:34
saik0MrBlowtatoes ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage for a gnome desktop out-of-the box10:34
saik0MrBlowtatoes kubuntu-desktop is the same for KDE10:35
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saik0MrBlowtatoes, you can guess what Xubuntu-desktop is10:35
MrBlowtatoesso i should get kubuntu?10:35
ompaulMrBlowtatoes, yeap10:35
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MrBlowtatoesdo all these desktops come on the cd?10:35
MrBlowtatoesor diffreent cd for eahc desktop?10:35
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saik0Sarge uses gcc3.4 and breezy uses gcc4. I'm not smart enough to know wherther or not thats going to be an issue10:36
unymobildoes anyone know how to recover the login from swat?10:36
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MrBlowtatoesdoes ubuntu require more than one partition?10:36
dragoonMrBlowtatoes: one for / one for swap like any other linux system10:36
MrBlowtatoesdebian uses one partition10:37
saik0MrBlowtatoes, no. but I always recomment at least 4 / /boot /home and /swap10:37
saik0for a desktop10:37
MrBlowtatoescan't really partiton 4 with *gb10:37
MrBlowtatoes8GB10:37
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MrBlowtatoeshow big does the swap partiton need to be?10:38
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saik0MrBlowtatoes well you can. it's just less convinient. but theres no place /home in the even you break something10:38
ompaulram*2 is typical10:38
ogaWhere can I find a list of whats installed in a default installation of brezzy10:38
MrBlowtatoesi won't break much10:38
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MonsieurBondoes somebody know about mysql server? it can't connect to port 3306. Changing the port does not solve the problem...10:39
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MrBlowtatoesso, what is better, getting new ubuntu cd or jsut apt-getting?10:39
soundrayompaul, coffee's ready. How do I get some to you, Federal Expresso?10:39
MrBlowtatoesin my situaiton asnywas10:39
saik0MrBlowtatoes, if you wont lose anything. I'd always go with CD10:39
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ompauloga, apt-cache show ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop10:39
MrBlowtatoesheh, my HD is clean10:39
ompaulsoundray, yes please10:39
MrBlowtatoeshow long does it typically take to get ubuntu cds in the mail? [i'm in memphis TN] 10:40
ompaulMrBlowtatoes, when did you order10:40
saik0MrBlowtatoes, can you download and burn the ISO?10:40
MrBlowtatoestoday10:40
MrBlowtatoes10 minuets ago10:40
MrBlowtatoesno10:40
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ompaulMrBlowtatoes, a couple of weeks - but you got christmas in there - so that will do some damage to any projection I make10:41
saik0do you know someone who can? My cds took a monthish10:41
ogaompaul, ok thanks. do you got a website with the same info? because im not running breezy right now.10:41
MrBlowtatoesugh10:41
ompaulMrBlowtatoes, you must know someone with a burner10:41
MrBlowtatoeshow many cds is ubuntu?10:41
saik01 Live 1 INstall10:41
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MrBlowtatoesi don't want a live cd10:41
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saik0they come together10:42
MrBlowtatoeswill 1 install be enough?10:42
MrBlowtatoeson 1 cd?10:42
saik0and it's not recommended you order just 1, as the cost of shipping would be higher than the cost of the CD (for canonical)10:42
ompauloga, what specifically do you want to know is there a particular package or something after all the CD does not contain all 17.5k packages that are available for the base install  the internet needs to be used for that10:42
MrBlowtatoeswell, my mother has a cd burner, ajnd i only have 1 cdrw, lol10:42
MrBlowtatoesi ordered 510:42
MrBlowtatoes17 thousand packages?10:43
ogaompaul, I would like to know whats packages being installed on a computer, doing a default, standard install.10:43
MrBlowtatoesdamn10:43
saik0MrBlowtatoes. If you're comfotable giving me your mailing adress I suppose I could mail you one =)10:43
MrBlowtatoes8GBs isn't enough for 17k packages10:43
ompaulMrBlowtatoes, that is everything which you don't have of debian either not the minimum10:43
MrBlowtatoesrmeebr, my OS + KDE needs to be atleast udner 2GB10:43
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bunglehi10:43
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Badm4nehllo10:44
Badm4nhello10:44
ompauloga, I really don't know I could dcc that to you10:44
ogayeah sure =)10:44
MrBlowtatoessure saik010:44
ogaw810:44
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ogaok.10:44
ogahave changed my dcc settings now.10:44
ompauloga, there may be a few others but that would be 99% like the compiler is on the disk but not installed in the first run (as granny most likely will not want it etc)10:45
Badm4ni have been tried to use ipmassq and edit /etc/ipmasq/rules/A80firewall.def ... then i put EXTERNAL_TCP_ALLOW="80 443" .. why my client still can access other port ?10:45
ogaompaul, k10:45
saik0 /msg me your mialing addy10:45
MrBlowtatoes ./msg are disabled10:45
saik0really though...you dont know nayone who could just burn it for you and GIVE you a cd?10:45
MrBlowtatoes :/10:45
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MrBlowtatoeshow many cds is it?10:46
saik0the install would only be 110:46
MrBlowtatoesif it's 1 cd, i can do it10:46
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Badm4nhelp urgent i have been tried to use ipmassq and edit /etc/ipmasq/rules/A80firewall.def ... then i put EXTERNAL_TCP_ALLOW="80 443" .. why my client still can access other port ?10:46
soundrayBadm4n, perhaps you need to restart ipmasq?10:46
Badm4nhmm10:46
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Badm4n/etc/init.d/ipmassq restart>?10:46
MrBlowtatoesnow, with this one CD, can i install and keep it under 2GB?10:47
Badm4nbrb10:47
Badm4nrestart10:47
soundrayBadm4n, one s10:47
MrBlowtatoesif i can, then i gots no qualms10:47
dpuppneed a little help here....... i type: <  dmesg | grep -i "SCSI device"10:47
dpupp  > and i get nothing back from the terminal.10:47
ompaulMrBlowtatoes, have some qualms cos it will not be a really useful system10:47
ogacool, theres alot of packages have to be installed to get the system work =)10:47
Badm4nsoundray : still same10:47
saik0MrBlowtatoes my installation is under 2 gigs with extra apps10:48
Badm4nmy client still can use FTP SSH telnet etc etc10:48
ompaulMrBlowtatoes, iirc it is 1.8G for the minimum that leaves you with 200M for yourself to play with10:48
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dpuppi need a really good how-to on mounting a usb drive. could someone point me in the right direction?10:48
MrBlowtatoesmost of the sutff on this debian install i'm not sueing, i doubt ubuntu adding more to me will make it less suefull10:48
soundrayBadm4n, I'm not the firewall expert, but I heard that firestarter is fairly easy to use.10:48
chrisx1any1 know why my evolution mail keeps bugging10:48
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Badm4ni use ipmassq during to handle my iptables rules too10:48
Badm4ncause im newbie here10:49
MrBlowtatoeswhat is included in the minmum geenrally?10:49
ogaanyone tried this "ubuntu-lite" install? > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9823310:49
MrBlowtatoesOS + KDE atleast?10:49
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saik0MrBlowtatoes yes10:49
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MrBlowtatoesthat's what i did with debian10:49
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Badm4nsoundray, if i use firestarter should i apt-get remove my ipmassq ?10:50
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saik0strange that kubuntu comes with k3b and ubuntu-desktop is devoid og gnome-baker10:50
ompaulMrBlowtatoes, to do that you need to do server install and then kubuntu-desktop if you use a CD and as this is all ifs and ands get a CD and talk to us about what to do before you launch into the install10:50
soundrayBadm4n, no, if there's a conflict, apt-get will warn you.10:50
saik0ompaul, theres a kubuntu cd10:51
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ompaulsaik0, but he says he ordered ubuntu10:51
MrBlowtatoesthe cds i rodered form the site, they coem with kubuntu?10:51
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ompaulthey have it on the CD10:51
MrBlowtatoesok10:51
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ompaulMrBlowtatoes, sit back wait when you have them then we can help you more10:51
saik0MrBlowtatoes, well make sure you download and burn a kubuntu CD =)10:52
MrBlowtatoes?10:52
ompaulsaik0, he said he does not have a burner10:52
nirrimihi10:52
MrBlowtatoesi'm getting them in the mail, no need to burn10:52
MrBlowtatoesmy mother does10:52
MrBlowtatoesand i have 1 single blank cd10:52
Badm4nok10:52
Badm4nfirestarter running10:52
Badm4nwhat shoul i put10:52
Badm4nto block all port from client except 80 and 44310:52
MrBlowtatoesanyways, i'm getting tired, i think i'll hit the bed for tonight10:53
saik0MrBlowtatoes, yes. if you're going to wait you will need to do a "server" install and then apt-get kubuntu-desktop10:53
MrBlowtatoesi have been swithcing through linux distros for the past 3 days10:53
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MrBlowtatoesi'll discuss it with you all before i install to double check10:53
MrBlowtatoesif all else fails, i got 5 diffrent operateing systems i ca install10:53
MrBlowtatoeslol10:53
saik0heh10:53
MrBlowtatoesand 2 live cds10:54
MrBlowtatoesAND another windowsxp machine10:54
ompaulMrBlowtatoes, at this stage it is a conversation please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic10:54
MrBlowtatoesanyways,10:54
MrBlowtatoesnight all10:54
ompaulMrBlowtatoes, night10:54
soundrayBadm4n, as I say I don't know much about firewalls on Ubuntu. Look in /usr/share/doc/firestarter, maybe starting with README.Debian. Try man firestarter. Look at config files in /etc/firestarter, etc.10:54
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Badm4nok10:55
saik0I'm out too10:55
saik0goodnight10:55
ajmitchevening10:55
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ompaulajmitch, it is always morning on IRC unless you are leaving :-)10:55
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzlol.10:55
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ajmitchalways evening somewhere, just as it's always morning :)10:57
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ompaulajmitch, I was only quoting IRC rule 127.0.0.1 ......    :-)10:58
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twibblermorning all. I wonder if somebody could give me a list of repositories please. Im specifically after the mstfonts.10:58
syklitenguttis it any k3b gurus out there?10:58
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soundraytwibbler, msttcorefonts is in multiverse. Just go through your existing /etc/apt/sources.list and activate it.10:59
ajmitchtwibbler: enable multiverse10:59
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ompaulzoyd, please don't do that10:59
ajmitchzoyd: stop that10:59
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twibblerthank you.10:59
zoydoops sorry10:59
ajmitchtwibbler: msttcorefonts, btw :)10:59
ompaulzoyd, there are over 600 in here if we all did it would make the chan unusable10:59
Inf3ctedFxdoes anybody knows a website it show me how to make aTerm transparency?10:59
ajmitchand the ops will pounce on you :)11:00
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syklitenguttanyone who can help me with k3b? get this error on ./configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH11:01
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ajmitchsyklitengutt: why are you trying to compile k3b?11:01
soundraysyklitengutt, any particular reason for you not to install the deb package?11:01
syklitenguttto get the newest version?11:01
ajmitchit just means you don't have gcc installed, but you'll need a lot more than that11:01
soundraysyklitengutt, does the newest version have anything that you need urgently?11:02
syklitengutthave installed the whole list... missed gcc then.11:02
ajmitchsyklitengutt: install build-essential while you're at it11:02
soundraysyklitengutt, ...that the current Ubuntu package hasn't got?11:02
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syklitengutthmmmm... proborlie not. need to burn some vcds that is cue files at the time and some mp3s.11:03
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ajmitchevening bob211:03
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bob2aloha.11:04
stewskihello are there any ubuntu/edubuntu developers in here?11:04
soundraysyklitengutt, if you do decide to compile the latest, do an apt-get build-deps k3b first. No guarantees, but it'll probably easier after that.11:04
syklitenguttok... il try11:04
bob2stewski: lots of them11:04
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ompaulstewski, ask your question and someone may answer11:05
stewskiOK just read this might be of interest11:05
soundraysyklitengutt, apt-get build-dep k3b (sorry)11:05
ompaulstewski, was that your question? :-)11:05
stewskihttp://www.bloggingbaby.com/entry/1234000340071196/11:05
stewskiyeah not got a problem just came on to say you guys are heros11:05
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gnomefreakis it safe to burn programs i wrote to cd and than install them later? they should just run after reinstaled right?11:06
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soundraygnomefreak, you're unintelligible.11:07
stewskiharsh11:07
ajmitchstewski: interesting review11:08
bob2that is uneccesserily harsh11:08
bob2and I'm a terrible speller11:08
bob2film at 1111:08
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ajmitchbob2: you should see how I've been typing lately11:08
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stewskiwell I think its a useful attempt but I thought edubuntu was more aimed at people offering IT in education (which Im hoping to do)11:08
ompaulstewski, #edubuntu also11:09
ompaulstewski, and #ubuntu-devel11:09
gnomefreaksoundray this is a help channel not a bs channel if you cant seem to help me when i ask a question why comment at all?11:09
bob2gnomefreak: come on, no need to escalate it further11:09
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mrkojegnomefreak,  what is your question? It made no sense... can you burn programs to cd that you already burned to a cd? the same cd?11:09
|Gmp|hello people11:10
stewskishould I take that link to edubuntu?11:10
bob2ajmitch: I blame ibm!11:10
soundraygnomefreak, I'm trying to help, but your question makes it impossible, because it doesn't make sense. Please rephrase.11:10
ompaulstewski, why not11:10
|Gmp|what things do i need to install to compile something from source?11:10
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bob2|Gmp|: install build-essential11:10
robotgeek|Gmp|: build-essential11:10
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|Gmp|uh...11:10
bob2for a start; you'll almost certainly need more11:10
|Gmp|how do i do that?11:11
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bob2|Gmp|: what are you trying to compile?11:11
|Gmp|apt-get install build-essentiol?11:11
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|Gmp|megazeux11:11
Syrussanyone here know a work-around for the skype/ubuntu  skype: Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3.2) but it is not installable problem? I've followed several guides, all of no use :/11:11
robotgeek|Gmp|: no, the app11:11
MikeManhello11:11
|Gmp|http://digitalmzx.net11:11
robotgeek!skype11:11
ubotuit has been said that skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl11:11
Syrusssigh.11:11
bob2Syruss: use the static tarball, not the broken packages11:11
Seveas!robotgeek11:11
ubotuSeveas: Wish i knew11:11
robotgeekSyruss: i believe that issue has been fixed that deb? no?11:11
SyrussI'll try those :p11:11
ogawhat is the long for deb11:12
Syrussstatic tarball eh?11:12
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Syrusscheers11:12
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robotgeekSeveas: :) hey, i can't help it if you have the hilite :)11:12
ompaulgnomefreak, i read your question for three times what I think you asked was - if you take .deb files and put them on a CD can you install them later just pop them in /var/cache/apt/archives - and then you can install them to your hearts content - however I am only 80% certain this is what you asked - your question does leave a lot of room for it not to have been your question11:12
ogaextended word for dev?11:12
ogadeb11:12
gnomefreaki wrote programs. i may need to lose everything. can i burn the ones i wrote to cd so i dont have to re-write them again? after burning them to cd will they be installable and work after i bring everything back up?11:12
bob2gnomefreak: yes, your burnt cd will store whatever you burn on there11:12
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ompaulgnomefreak, as long as it is the "pre installed" version of the programs - so grab your source and packages and run with them to the burner :)11:13
robotgeekSeveas: doesn't your binary for skype fix all those problems that Syruss is having?11:13
Seveasyes11:13
ogahow do you guys define: .deb? / deb ?11:13
Syrussthis tarball version is alright, it's just slow and looks crap11:14
Seveasoga, what do you mean?11:14
bob2oga: it's a Debian format package11:14
robotgeekSyruss: get the deb from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl11:14
ogabob2. k. thanks.11:14
ndlovuhey all - where should I submit bug reports for openoffice? with ubuntu or with OOo?11:14
ogaits a packagefilename. aight.11:14
robotgeekndlovu: ubuntu bugzilla11:14
gnomefreakok good ty and 1 more question i compiled links2 from source? is there a way to put that on disk so i dont have to re-compile it if i lose everything?11:14
ndlovurobotgeek: thanks11:15
robotgeekndlovu: it's the standard open office right? if so, http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com11:15
bob2gnomefreak: it's all just files, dude11:15
bob2gnomefreak: just backup and restore whatever you want11:15
ndlovurobotgeek: yup11:15
|Gmp|do i need to install any dependencies for build-essencial11:15
gnomefreakok ty11:15
dragoonapt installs it all for you11:15
Syrusscheers guys11:15
Seveas|Gmp|, yes, build essential is a mere metapackage11:15
bob2|Gmp|: of course...11:15
ompaul|Gmp|, as dragoon said11:15
robotgeek|Gmp|: installing build-essential setup your your system for compiling and stuff11:15
soundraygnomefreak, if you backup the entire source directory, you can just rerun sudo make install from inside it after restore.11:15
|Gmp|ok i installed it without any errors11:16
soundraygnomefreak, why do you have to reinstall?11:16
ompaulSeveas, not mere - that would indicate that it was hollow and empty and devoid of usefulness, surely if that were the case it would never have been made :-)11:16
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MikeMandoes anyone here know about the "osx dock" for linux here?11:16
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ogaMikeMan, yeah. check out gnome-look.org11:16
ogaand search for osx11:17
ompaulI'd say ooch but you have to catch me first :)11:17
|Gmp|can you install like fluxbox in ubuntu?11:17
dragoonyes11:17
gnomefreakim not sure if im putting winblows back on here for my  java class comming up and i tried to putu winblows on hdb and its complaining about partion issues ubuntu is on hda11:17
Seveas|Gmp|, apt-get install fluxbox11:17
|Gmp|heh11:17
robotgeekubotu: tell |Gmp| about repos11:17
robotgeek|Gmp|: you need to enable universe firest11:17
ompauldragoon, can you type the persons name at the start of a line it is hard to figure out who you are answering11:17
robotgeek*first*11:17
soundraygnomefreak, can you just switch your hard disk drives around?11:18
Seveasgnomefreak, a) It's windows, not winblows b) 'partition issues' is very descriptive...11:18
|Gmp|robotgeek, i have11:18
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dragoonompaul: can do11:18
robotgeek|Gmp|: cool :)11:18
ompauldragoon, :)11:18
ogais there any skins for fluxbox?11:18
dragoonoga: yea heaps - fluxbox site has some nice ones11:18
soundraygnomefreak, you'd have to fix /boot/grub/menu.lst and /etc/fstab, and reinstall grub.11:19
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Syrusssuxbox11:19
ogak thanks.11:19
SeveasSyruss: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct11:19
MiSS_n00bhow do i restart x server11:19
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SeveasMiSS_n00b, <ctrl><alt><del>11:19
|Gmp|robotgeek, i suppose i have because i installed mp3 support and it said that i had to enable universal and i did what it said so i suppose it worked11:19
syklitenguttand a little help with ff. I tried the new 1.5 but I cant get any plugins to work. I tried it trough the wiki/newfirefox etc. but now with 1.0.7 I have a problem. when trying to play f.ex wmv files or mpg files, it just play a couple of secounds (with totem, and the totem plugin). so how do I set mediaplayer as default video app. its installed, and the plugin is installed.11:19
gnomefreakwell it tells me that they are not win2k partions so using gparted i got rid of them all and made one big partion fat32 still no go11:19
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SeveasMiSS_n00b, <ctrl><alt><bksp> <-- sorry that one11:19
ajmitchSeveas: backspace, you mean :)11:19
robotgeek|Gmp|: yes11:19
MikeManthx oga11:19
Seveasajmitch, yeah, not too awake yet :)11:19
syklitenguttsorry for ling post.11:19
oganp11:19
ajmitchSeveas: have some of my caffiene11:20
MiSS_n00bwhat do i type in there to restart it11:20
SyrussI was just saying, fluxbox isn't my cup of tea...bit too l33t h4x0r. I think gnome is best.11:20
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bob2MiSS_n00b: why do you want to restart it?11:20
MiSS_n00bit closes it and i dont know what to type to bring it back11:20
soundraygnomefreak, you probably missed setting the partition type.11:20
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Seveassyklitengutt, sudo rm /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libtotem*11:20
MiSS_n00bi installed vid drivers11:20
ogagnome is very nice, but not very responsive on my machines :/11:20
Seveasajmitch, thanks :)11:20
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ompauloga, so xubuntu is what you want11:20
bob2MiSS_n00b: you're reading incorrect and confusing documentation11:20
ajmitchSyruss: that's nice, but people do want to use fluxbox, if we all give our opinions it could get heated here :)11:20
ogawhat wm xubuntu use?11:20
syklitenguttthat removes it, so does mplayer get standard then?11:20
ompauloga, x fce11:21
MiSS_n00b"Close all your applications, then press Ctrl-Alt-Backspace to restart the X server. If you see an nVidia splashscreen after hitting Ctrl-Alt-Backspace, your drivers are properly installed.11:21
ogaompaul, k, are there any other things make xubuntu faster?11:21
gnomefreaksoundray,  i think not formatting it made it spit errors but i didnt see a format choice in gparted11:21
MiSS_n00b"11:21
ogathan just a regular breezy install.11:21
Syrussthat's fair enough11:21
ompauloga, the wm is lightweight11:21
bob2MiSS_n00b: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto11:21
olli_hey people, where would I find the default Firefox directory? I tried find, with no avail...11:21
robotgeekolli_: ~/.mozilla/firefox/11:21
MiSS_n00byeah...11:21
Seveasolli_, default for what?11:21
Seveasfirefox has a few places of its own..11:22
olli_Hoary, if that's what you mean11:22
soundraygnomefreak, I see. Having created a partition for FAT32, you want to run mkdosfs -F32 on it.11:22
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ompauloga, I find it fast on a 128meg / 9gig hd 500mhz box11:22
olli_I want the plugins directory11:22
bob2olli_: what do you mean by "default"?11:22
robotgeekolli_: that's where all your settings are stored.11:22
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bob2olli_: dpkg -L firefox | grep /usr/lib11:22
robotgeekolli_: then yes, there in the profiles directory11:22
MikeManhey in ubuntu, 5.10 my mouse is really toutchy is there anyway to fix it, thanks11:22
olli_oh, okay, thanks11:22
ompauloga, btw the video card on that is 8megs in size11:22
MiSS_n00bbut what do i type in after pressing ctrl alt bkspc to get back to the gui thingy11:22
robotgeekolli_: plugins or extensions?11:22
olli_plugins11:22
olli_installing jre11:23
ogaompaul, hehe k. are there any other things make xubuntu faster? except the WM.11:23
robotgeekolli_: then refer to bob2's statement11:23
Seveas!tell olli_ about java11:23
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gnomefreakso i wanna run sudo mkdosfs -F32 hdb? and that will format it and set it as fat32 ?11:23
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ompauloga, like what tuning your hardware and adding ram stripping down binaries beyond some level that is reasonable11:24
soundraygnomefreak, !!not hdb!!11:24
Syrussskype :)11:24
Syrusscheers Seveas11:24
SyrussI even have nice translucent menus :p11:24
soundraygnomefreak, mkdosfs -F32 /dev/hdb1 if it's the first partition on hdb11:24
gnomefreakok i see11:25
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olli_okay, thanks guys, ~/.mozilla/ was what I needed11:26
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gnomefreakqhats the command to veiw hds?11:26
gnomefreakview*11:27
bob2what does viewing a hard drive mean?11:27
|Gmp|ls11:27
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|Gmp|cd /mnt/hd11:27
soundraygnomefreak, System-Administration-Disks11:27
|Gmp|ls11:27
gnomefreakty11:27
Seveasgnomefreak, apply /dev/screwdriver /dev/case && watch11:28
irvindmesg | grep hd11:28
ogaI think a good idea when tuning and stripping down systems, install other WM etc. Is to first of all install a default breezy install. And then later, remove thinks you dont like. (and add things you'd like..) Is this a good method, or do you prefer 'server'.11:28
soundrayCome on guys, gnomefreak's had enough teasing.11:28
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wegihi guys, I'll become guests from america and I have added a guest account on my (german) ubuntu instalation, how can I switch that specific account to english?11:28
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Seveaswegi, let them choose english when logging in11:29
Seveasoga, if you want to keep it small, start with a server install and build up11:29
soundraygnomefreak, sorry I upset you earlier. With 'unintelligible' I meant 'incomprehensible'. I didn't mean to say anything about your intelligence :)11:29
wegiSeveas: wow parsed all menus but never ever thought of such a simple solution :( thx :)11:29
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gnomefreaksoundray, its alright i just didnt expect to see that at 5am11:30
ogayeah, wegi. I think you can choose what language at the gnome-loginmanager.11:30
gnomefreakill brb i gotta see if this worked11:30
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[Jonne] how can I update to a more recent version of MySQL in breezy?11:32
YukiIkyuta[Jonne] , how recent?11:33
soundray[Jonne] , apt-get install mysql-server-4.111:33
mrkoje[Jonne] , I think MySql 5 is the latest11:33
[Jonne] i'm running 4.0.24 now, while my host has 4.1.14, this causes problems with charsets11:33
ogaare the fonts in ubuntu "free software"?11:33
[Jonne] 4.1 will do, thanks11:34
ogaor are those some kind of restricted packages.11:34
soundray[Jonne] , in that case, probably apt-get isntall mysql-client-4.111:34
Seveasoga, not all fonts are completely free11:34
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|Gmp|how do i install flash player11:34
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|Gmp|im downloading it11:34
[Jonne] client?11:34
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[Jonne] i want to update the server11:35
Seveasbut the ones from main are all free to use & distribute11:35
|Gmp|what?11:35
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Seveas|Gmp|, apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla11:35
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soundray[Jonne] , okay, I thought you meant server when you said host.11:35
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rockin_stanmorgen zusammen11:36
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[Jonne] it just causes problems when exporting the db from the host, and when i want to import it into my local install to mess with my website locally11:36
soundrayrockin_stan, geh mal zu #ubuntu-de :)11:36
|Gmp|Seveas,  la11:36
|Gmp|Reading package lists... Done11:36
|Gmp|Building dependency tree... Done11:36
|Gmp|E: Couldn't find package flashplayer-mozilla11:36
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dragoonubotu: tell |Gmp| about paste11:36
Seveas!tell |Gmp| about multiverse11:37
soundraydragoon, that wasn't too schwierig, though, was it?11:37
Seveas(you need multiverse)11:37
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Badm4nany1 here understand about ipmassq rulez ?11:37
[Jonne] why doesn't ubuntu install the latest version of mysql by default?11:37
[Jonne] is there other software i should update that way?11:38
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soundray[Jonne] , because mysql 3.x is very solid and reliable.11:38
[Jonne] but i had 4.011:39
soundray[Jonne] , if you installed 4.1 with apt-get, it will have updated everything it depends on as well.11:39
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soundray[Jonne] , erm - yes, it's 4.0 that's considered exceedingly stable.11:40
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[Jonne] i know that, that's why i love it ;). I just wonder what other software is being held back for that reason11:40
|Gmp|can i insstalll it with the flashplayer-installer scripty thing that you download when clicking on the installing missing plugins in firefox11:40
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soundray[Jonne] , Firefox is an example.11:40
[Jonne] is that in backports yet?11:41
soundray[Jonne] , but if you stick with Ubuntu, you don't need to worry about the integrity of the installation.11:41
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|Gmp|where is firefox installled to?11:41
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soundray|Gmp|, check with dpkg -L mozilla-firefox11:42
sobersabrehi is it safe to upgrade from debian-testing  to breezy badger ?11:42
sobersabreit is a server, apache2, plone.11:42
sobersabreplone+zope installed from source... so this shan't be a problem11:43
ajmitchsobersabre: you might run into a bit of pain, testing will be ahead of breezy in a few packages11:43
Seveassobersabre, bothing carful apt pinning can't fix :)11:43
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ajmitchSeveas: yes there is :)11:44
soundraysobersabre, I guess it depends on how much downtime you can afford.11:44
ajmitchSeveas: packages are not guaranteed to downgrade properly11:44
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Seveastrue11:44
|Gmp|is firefox install to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox11:44
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gnomefreakit keeps giving me same error and there are no partions and i formatted the one big one in disks is there something im missing ha and people say linux is hard to install :(11:45
irvin|Gmp|, whereis firefox11:45
|Gmp|i tried that11:45
sobersabresoundray if it is a matter of a day, i can, but I need to hear that basically nothing will break from the base system - network connection scripts, iptable rules etc.11:45
|Gmp|it just found the executablle11:45
MiSS_n00bif i want to automatically mount my ext3 slave drive, i know i have to put an extra line is fstab but what else do i have to do11:45
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sobersabrei mean I need to make sure, not 'hear' :)11:45
|Gmp|whereis mozila-firefox works though11:45
soundraysobersabre, I don't think anyone will give you a guarantee.11:45
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soundray|Gmp| most of the components are in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox11:46
architxMiSS_n00b L make a filesystem on it11:46
MiSS_n00bit has files on it11:46
|Gmp|ok11:46
architxwhat filesystem11:46
|Gmp|i installed firefox to /home/nick/.mozilla11:46
architx?11:46
MiSS_n00bext3?11:46
|Gmp|i meaana flash11:46
|Gmp|yes11:46
MiSS_n00bis that the file system11:46
sobersabresoundray i don't need a 'written contract'11:46
|Gmp|ext311:46
architxthan an fstab entry will be ennuf11:46
MiSS_n00bok cool ty11:46
ajmitchsobersabre: there will be no guarantee - you're trying to upgrade from testing, which is a moving target11:46
sobersabrejust a confirmation like: done that, had a prob with this/that...11:47
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architxand a manual mount if you don t want to reboot11:47
ajmitchsobersabre: testing last week is different from testing this week, so we couldn't say11:47
sobersabreajmitch the fact is that currently there are older things in testing than in breezy.11:47
ajmitchsobersabre: there are *some* older things11:47
ajmitchnot all11:47
ph33rhey, Im having trouble with the network.. Ubuntu cant seem to find my usb plugin wireless card..11:48
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ph33ror, It finds it, but on "networking" it doesnt say wireless...11:48
sobersabrei haven't done a thorough search, but... most of the things are at most the same as breezy.11:48
|Gmp|how caan you make a shortcut?11:48
|Gmp|like drag aa folder onto the etop11:48
|Gmp|aand there will be shortcut of it there11:49
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Inf3ctedFxhow can I open aTerm from my gnome instead type the commando on my terminal everytime?11:49
sobersabreok thanks, guys.11:49
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soundrayph33r, what type of card?11:49
ph33rsoundray, Avaya something..11:50
ph33rsoundray, It finds the card.. but it on "networking" it just says ethernet and modem connection...11:50
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mbscould someone help me with a quick route problem?11:50
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thoreauputicInf3ctedFx: right click desktop or panel, make a launcher11:50
mbsi have it set up properly on one machine, and I want to emulate that config on another11:51
soundrayph33r, how do you determine that it "finds" the card?11:51
mbsi can post the route result from the good setup11:51
Inf3ctedFxok thomhash i got that but anothe think.. how can I keep my settings like transparency colors borders etc etc etc11:51
thoreauputicInf3ctedFx: make the command in the launcher - like aterm -tr +sb   and so on11:52
Inf3ctedFxohh oks11:52
Inf3ctedFxthx11:52
ph33rsoundray, when I go to device manager - usb hub interface it finds, Avaya Wireless USB Adabter...11:52
|Gmp|how caan you make a shortcut?11:52
|Gmp|aand there will be shortcut of it there11:52
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|Gmp|woops11:53
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soundrayph33r, okay, so the USB side works. Does it load a driver module?11:53
ph33rsoundray, the problem is that I can11:53
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ph33rsoundray, no ..11:53
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soundrayph33r, it's not supported then. I have a USB adapter like that.11:54
soundrayph33r, I managed to get it to work by downloading the 2.6.15 experimental kernel.11:54
ph33rAhh...11:54
soundrayph33r, but that broke my ATI setup.11:54
ph33rsoundray, ;P argh.. the trouble! :P11:54
soundrayph33r, so I'm back to CAT5 cable...11:54
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ph33rsoundray, If you go into "system - administration . networking" :P11:55
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soundrayph33r, yeah, curse the manufacturers.11:55
ph33rsoundray, you`ll get three options? - Ethernet, Modem and Wireless?11:55
soundrayph33r, well, I didn't check that. But the interface showed with ifconfig, which I guess means the same thing.11:56
ph33rsoundray, so why don11:56
ph33rsoundray, dont i get the freaking wireless option!? :P11:57
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soundrayph33r, because your adapter isn't supported.11:57
dj_smilee|work:o11:57
dj_smilee|worktheres more people in here than in linux11:57
soundrayph33r, is this a laptop?11:57
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ph33rsoundray, nope.. but you know what.. I know what the problem is.. I got an HP! :P11:57
dj_smilee|work:S11:58
nelpostohey people.. i have a problem with compiling a new kernel ... every time I compile a kernel, trying to boot it from grub just results in a blank screen :(11:58
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Deedubbdoes the ubuntu installation create a log file anywhere?11:58
soundrayph33r, the problem is that manufacturers don't open their specifications and don't provide Linux drivers for their hardware.11:59
ph33rsoundray, I know I know.. but let me dream! ;P I hate HP! :P11:59
soundrayDeedubb, I don't think so, but there's probably a way to find out what you want to know about your installation.12:00
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correspondermoin12:00
corresponderi have a problem with dpkg in ubuntu12:00
soundraycorresponder, ich glaube du suchst #ubuntu-de12:00
corresponderno12:00
corresponder;-)12:00
soundraycorresponder, ah okay :)12:00
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corresponderlol12:00
thoreauputicDeedubb: /var/log/debian-installer12:01
corresponderthanks12:01
thoreauputicDeedubb: at least that looks like the one :)12:01
rob1what can I use to generate the md5 of a string?12:01
corresponderdpkg gives an error: ... process qeue: Assertion dependtry12:01
corresponderetc.12:01
corresponder<=412:01
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corresponderwhat tells this?12:02
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Deedubbthoreauputic: perfect, thanks, the /var/log/installer/messages what I was after12:02
soundraycorresponder, could you post the full error on pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl ?12:02
vbgunzI've got a wierd problem with Totem DVD playback... Just recently, movies started to state that they cannot play back because audio device is used or busy *but* if I just hit play, it plays with sound... Whats with this new error as it just started happening recently?12:02
corresponderk12:03
irvincool12:03
thoreauputicDeedubb: I just did a "locate installer | grep log "  ;-)12:03
soundraythoreauputic, that's very useful.12:03
irvini didn't know irssi was installed by default12:03
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Deedubbthoreauputic: you're a genius12:04
thoreauputicDeedubb: hardly ;-)12:04
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Deedubbthoreauputic: the fact that you said that as reply proves it; you're self aware ;)12:05
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ndlovuI'm trying to submit a bug report in bugzilla, with an example file, but it keeps telling me "You did not specify a file to attach". Am I missing something?12:05
thoreauputicDeedubb: well, I just thought the method might prove useful to someone12:05
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Deedubbthoreauputic: I'm just playing - next time just take the compliment - they don't come around often12:06
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thoreauputicDeedubb: OK I accept gracefully ;-)12:07
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blackhatHey, when I put the Ubuntu disc in and I try to install it I don't get any options to resize my partitions, only erase the whole drive =/, I have a dell inspiron 600012:07
argoshi, i have a problem, could anybody please advice? I bought new soundcard (emu 4040 for making music) i know there are no linux drivers, but now my old soundcard stopped working aswell . How could i make ubuntu ignore the new card and still use the old card?12:07
corresponderhttp://paste.ubuntuusers.de/84412:07
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soundraycorresponder, does 'sudo apt-get -f install' work?12:09
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interozhello12:09
skarhi, how do i upgrade to firefox 1.5 on breezy?12:09
corresponderno12:09
correspondersame12:09
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correspondertells me do do the dpkg --configure -a12:09
skaralso how to install flash and java plugins on plain vanilla breezy just installed?12:09
freelovehow do i set up my adsl internet in ubuntu? any gui app?12:09
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corresponderflash and java will work allways if you install them from the hand12:10
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soundraycorresponder, this is unusual. Have you googled for this error message?12:10
corresponderno12:10
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thoreauputicskar: this is one way - http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/45917/index.html12:10
argosany ideas on the soundcard issue?12:10
corresponderi will look12:10
thoreauputicskar: for ff 1.5 I mean12:10
freelovehow do i set up my adsl internet in ubuntu? any gui app?12:10
irvinhello12:11
blackhati want to install ubuntu but i cant resize partitions during setup like i can on my other computer12:11
blackhatanyone know why12:11
irvinis there a console app for instant messengers?12:11
freelovedoing sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list does not open up the text editor.what to do?12:11
thoreauputic!tell skar about restricted12:11
chorsefreelove, invoke pppoeconf from console12:11
soundraycorresponder, what were you installing when it happened?12:11
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LoPMXdo i have to compile new xfce to have it on ubuntu?12:12
corresponderits not important, it is happening always if i use apt-get12:12
oggahHow to check free disk space in terminal.12:12
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corresponderapt-get check won?t help12:12
corresponderapt-get -f install too12:12
thoreauputicoggah: df -h12:12
corresponderso...12:12
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oggahthanks. how do view all partitions in terminal?12:12
soundraycorresponder, what were you installing when it *first* happened?12:12
thoreauputicoggah: sudo fdisk -l12:13
skarthoreauputic: ok will try this link, thanks for the info12:13
bedeejust want to say that i love ubuntu - thanks and good bye12:13
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corresponderfluxbox12:13
thoreauputicskar: no problem :)12:13
irvinis there a console-based gaim?12:13
corresponderwith the fluxbox install startet the problem12:13
corresponder*g* - history will not forget it12:13
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soundraycorresponder, try dpkg --purge fluxbox , then dpkg --configure -a12:14
corresponderk12:14
corresponderthanks12:14
interozi am a debian user and don't know much of ubuntu. i installed ubuntu at a friend of mine, who's a linux newbie. the problem is that after a plain install gnome didn't start (could not understand why). so i installed xfce, and it went fine. on the other side now he can't play any mp3 or video file. any clue?12:14
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oggahok, when doing a standard isntall. ubuntu will create one partition for the system, and one, for swap? right?12:15
oggahwhat is tmpfs12:15
soundray!tell interoz about restricted formats12:15
thoreauputicoggah: by default, yes12:15
soundrayinteroz, pls read ubotu's message.12:15
tazzzHi all, my computer is almost frozen. I can see from "top" that there is 90% "wa" in CPU.  What does that mean, waste ? and how can I know which program is causing it ?12:15
thoreauputicoggah: those other entries like tmpfs are kind of virtual entries12:15
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interozsoundray: thanks! reading, bbl12:16
correspondersoundray: same error12:16
ndlovuokay, figured it out (attach file in bugzilla) - I changed my password, but the login cookie was not updated. Had to delete the cookie before attach file worked.12:16
oggahthoreauputic: okay. hrm. I cant list the swap-partition in terminal..12:16
oggahhow do I?12:16
corresponderdf -h12:16
irvinoggah: df -h12:17
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corresponderor better12:17
corresponderfree12:17
oggahah thanks!12:17
tazzzI had this happen several times...and then It was frozen so much I couldnt even log in another consol cze between the username/passwd it would give a timeout ...12:17
thoreauputicoggah: it shows up on  sudo fdisk -l ( or it should)12:17
corresponderor cat /etc/fstab |grep swap12:17
hlenoggah, swapon -s12:17
tazzzHi all, my computer is almost frozen. I can see from "top" that there is 90% "wa" in CPU.  What does that mean, waste ? and how can I know which program is causing it ?12:17
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soundraycorresponder, do a 'dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii', this should show you which packages are broken.12:17
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corresponderk12:18
oggahthe tmpfs listed when doing 'df -h' is something else than the Swap listed in "free".12:18
oggah?12:18
thoreauputicoggah: yes, don't worry about it :)12:19
skarthoreauputic: what is the universe/multiverse repo containing flash/java/real etc?12:19
oggahseems like I got two tmpfs.. both a size of 253Mbyte.12:19
oggahNo =) Just want to learn.12:19
irvinskar: i think its on restricted12:19
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thoreauputicskar: java isn't in the repos unless you want blackdown java12:19
thoreauputicreal also is proprietary12:20
blackhatanyone here have a laptop12:20
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thoreauputicthere's a flash non-free in multiverse I think12:20
Deedubbtazzz:I think thats IO wait12:20
vladuz976anybody know a nice monospace font?12:20
gnomefreakblackdown is out of date tho its 1.4 you can get java 1.5 from java debs and all you do is dpkg  -i it and your good to go12:20
thoreauputicgnomefreak: correct12:20
thoreauputic!javadebs12:21
ubotuI guess javadebs is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/12:21
thoreauputic!realplay12:21
ubotuthoreauputic: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!12:21
thoreauputicbah12:21
correspondersoundray: http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/84512:21
thoreauputic!realplayer12:21
ubotumethinks realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats12:21
interozhaving installed a i386 ubuntu on amd64 hardware, is it possible to use an amd64 kernel instead of a 386 one? i am asking because apt-cache don't seem to find it12:21
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Glossarymy ubuntu cds just arrived :D12:22
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thoreauputicGlossary: nice :)12:23
soundraycorresponder, I'm afraid your system is fubar. I don't know what to do. thoreauputic?12:23
Badm4nany1 here understand about ipmassq rulez ? msg me please or type my name @ channel so i recognize who can help me12:23
corresponderhmmm12:24
corresponderthank you12:24
thoreauputicsoundray: oh, sorry I haven't followed the problem...12:24
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soundraythoreauputic, the two most recent posts on http://paste.ubuntuusers.de sum up the problem.12:24
skarthoreauputic: which deb should i install to have gcc working with stdio.h?12:25
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irvininteroz: sudo apt-cache search linux-image12:25
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freelove_how to change my sudo password?12:25
thoreauputicskar: have you installed build-essential ?12:25
gnomefreakpasswd12:25
interozirvin: yes, it has only x86 and k7 kernels there. maybe i have to enable some extra repository though12:26
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freelove_thx12:27
skarthoreauputic: yup, and i get "error: stdio.h: No such file or directory"12:27
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gnomefreakskar,  build-essencial12:27
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freelove_sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list is throwing errors.its not opening.how do i edit my sources.list???12:27
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ubuntu_@caribbean12:28
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thoreauputiccorresponder: if dpkg --configure -a errored out, I don't know what you can do - that reconfigures *everything* so if it's broken you may be out of luck12:28
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corresponderk12:28
corresponderthanks12:28
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parkerg'day12:28
freelove_installed leafpad......sudo leafpad /ect/apt/sources.list works.........wonders whats wrong with this f*** gedit!! although it does open as normal user...12:29
dooglusskar: #include <stdio.h> not "stdio.h"12:29
gnomefreakyour getting that error cause the stdio.h is a header file for C programming and the editoer you are using maynot have it in there but should anjuta does but either way i would sudo apt-get install build-essencial12:29
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ubuntu_.12:29
xiaogilhi12:29
gnomefreakdooglus,  good catch i didnt see the "\12:30
gnomefreak-/12:30
thoreauputicgnomefreak: build-essential ( no c )12:30
skardooglus: ok got it now, programming error :))12:30
gnomefreakyeah yeah yeah its early :(12:30
dooglusgnomefreak: he didn't tell use he used a ", but I guess he did12:30
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xiaogilwhat are te wget argument (or even another command if exists) to get recursively the .tif image of an htt address ?12:30
thoreauputicgnomefreak: heh - late here ;)12:30
zool2005good morning12:30
freelove_i wanna move certain files as root.....how to do it in nautilus???12:30
gnomefreaklol12:30
gnomefreakits 6:30 here am12:31
dooglusfreelove_: at a guess, "sudo nautilus"12:31
thoreauputicFri Dec  9 22:31:21 EST 200512:31
frogzoofreelove you don't - bad plan12:31
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thoreauputic;)12:31
skarthoreauputic: nope, now it works for both <stdio.h> and "stdio.h", just installing build-essential does it :)12:31
thoreauputicskar: ah there you go then :)12:31
dj_smilee|workguys, how would i copy my entire root file system from a hard disk to an NFS export12:31
Ngdj_smilee|work: rsync :)12:31
thoreauputicdj_smilee|work: with much patience :)12:32
gnomefreaki never tried " for calling a header file and prolly wont either12:32
zool2005can anyone help me with apt-get question please?12:32
Ngsomething like rsync -avPx --stats / /path/to/nfs/mount12:32
dooglusdj_smilee|work: I'd suggest copying it over as a tarfile, and untarring on the remote machine.  that limits any trouble caused by NFS flakiness12:32
freelove_dooglus, ive given the command.but it hasn't opened yet.how i miss kdesu konqueror!12:32
dj_smilee|workrsync and patientce :S12:32
gnomefreakzool2005,  ask it and they shall help ;)12:32
dj_smilee|worki need the ENTIRE filesystem12:32
dj_smilee|workexactly as it is12:33
frogzoodj_smilee|work: tar -cpf / | (cd NFS ; tar xf) - something like this should work12:33
dj_smilee|workbecause im trying to run an NFS root12:33
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Ngthe rsync command I just gave will preserve all ownership and permissions and so on12:33
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Glossarythoreauputic, i received 5 today and i ordered 30 more would you think they will arrive too? for my friends and stuff12:33
dj_smilee|worklike cpio?12:33
zool2005I have been looking thought the starter guide and following it to the letter but apt-get cannot find packages such as java, flashplayer etc even though I've edited the server list12:33
jakobhow do I batch convert OoO 1.1.x files til the new OoO .odt format?12:33
dooglusfrogzoo: that would create a whole bunch of files over NFS.  have you ever had that work properly?12:33
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dj_smilee|worki'll have a look Ng12:34
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dj_smilee|workwill it copy they proc stuff?12:34
Ngo12:34
Ngno12:34
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thoreauputicGlossary: no idea - I ordered mine in October and got them last week - but I assume first orders get priority12:34
Ngdj_smilee|work: the -x means it will not copy anything on another mount12:34
Ngdj_smilee|work: purely what's on the / partition12:34
dj_smilee|workok12:35
Ngso you can have the nfs export mounted in /mnt somewhere and it won't go mad and try to copy itself to itself or anything ;)12:35
dj_smilee|worklol exactly12:35
freelove_dooglus, it has opened just now.after such a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time!!!12:35
dj_smilee|workmight as well get to work on my initrd12:35
dooglusfreelove_: do you have a lot of bookmarks in nautilus?12:36
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frogzoodooglus: your point is that tar needs the -l flag as well, to stay within the / fs ?12:36
oggahkeycommand for screendump in GNOME?12:36
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Ngoggah: poke your PrintScreen keyboard key :)12:36
oggahoh. lol.12:36
Seveasoggah, [prt scr] 12:36
oggah=)12:36
dooglusfrogzoo: no, my point is that I wouldn't trust NFS to create a whole bunch of files at once.  I've had bad experiences with it.12:36
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oggahthx.12:36
diegouf12:36
diegonunca me acuerdo12:36
thoreauputicoggah: PrintScrn ?12:36
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diegocomo es el canal en espaol12:36
Seveas!es12:37
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.12:37
Ngoggah: or alt-prntscrn if you just want the current window12:37
dooglusfrogzoo: I'd dump the tarfile over NFS and then run tar xf on the remote machine to untar it12:37
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thoronHi! How long security support Ubuntu has after release?12:37
samu2are you just supposed to edit your boot menu manually whenever you autoupgrade the kernel?12:37
oggaherr, [print screen]  doesnt seem to work. where is the .png saved?12:37
frogzoodooglus: that sounds horrible - I used to do this all the time - NFS should be VERY stable12:37
thoreauputicthoron: 18 months I think currently12:37
dooglusfrogzoo: but an 'l' flag when creating the tarfile is needed too.  (and the last - must be inside the subshell if you're going to do it like that too by the way)12:37
thoronthoreauputic: yep, just found it too. thanks. =)12:38
frogzoodooglus: yup12:38
zool2005can anyone help with apt-get sources please?12:38
dooglusfrogzoo: maybe it is now.  i've not used it for 10 years or so.  Sun's implementation used to be horrible.12:38
thoronIs Ubuntu as easy as Debian to upgrade to next release?12:38
thoreauputic!sources12:38
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic12:38
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doogluszool2005: drop the last s12:38
corresponderthoreauputic: my problem is solved: therewas a wrong configured package12:38
corresponderthanks a lot12:38
doogluszool2005: it's "apt-get source"12:38
oggaherr, [print screen]  doesnt seem to work. where is the .png saved?12:39
samu2because now i have the same "problem" i had when i ran redhat a long time ago, where my boot menu is filling up with old kernels12:39
dooglusoggah: in Documents12:39
corresponderwith dpkg --purge "packagename"12:39
thoreauputiczool2005: for stuff like java and multimedia read wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats12:39
zool2005thank you12:39
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frogzoodooglus: NFS these days is really nice - on Sun's cluster - you take down an NFS server, failover, and all your exports keep working - even with open files - it's pretty awesome12:40
thoreauputiccorresponder: glad to hear you sorted it out12:40
corresponder;-)12:40
oggahdooglus: in documents. where is it located?12:40
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oggahsbin? dev?12:40
dooglusoggah: for me it's /home/chris/Documents12:41
dooglusoggah: but you can tell it to save wherever you like12:41
Ngfrogzoo: you can hack up nfs failover with linux nfs, just bring up an identical export on the same IP and if it's hard mounted the clients just remount and continue ;)12:41
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thoreauputicoggah: prntscrn should pop up a dialogue12:41
dooglusoggah: when you hit [prtscn]  don't you see "filename" and "save to folder" or some such?12:42
frogzooNg: just my point really - that's because of the NFS protocol itself - not the specific implementation12:42
Ngyeah12:42
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Ngalthough if you don't have a spare identical server, hard mounts are a serious pita ;)12:42
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BooZeehello12:42
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oggahdooglus: yep. now I do. the strange thing is, try it yourself. put the pointer at the menu, and click Applications for example. then try [prnt scrn] .12:43
tristanHello, I have just a small question : I don't have the adress bar when browsing through my folder. How can I enable it?12:43
Nikusantristan, ctrl+l12:43
thoreauputictristan: hit ctrl-L12:43
BooZeeI've got problems with seeing text in flash movies. e.g.: when right clicking a movie and clicking on settings - I only see the little pics and no text at all!12:43
oggahdoesnt pop up any save screendump dialouge?12:43
tristanthanks12:43
oggahdoesnt for me.12:44
dooglusoggah: prnt scrn doesn't work while the gnome menus are showing!  I never noticed that before12:44
thoreauputictristan: or check edit preferences and change it there12:44
NikusanBooZee, maybe you need msttcorefonts12:44
samu2so are you supposed to manually edit your boot menu for kernel upgrades?12:44
BooZeeNikusan: already installed12:44
oggahkinda strange, have I found a bug? :)12:44
thoreauputicsamu2: if they are installed with the package manager, no need12:45
Ngoggah: not necessarily, open menus make for strange input modifications12:45
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samu2thoreauputic, but the boot menu is filling up with old kernels that i never load12:45
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Ngoggah: you could use gimp though, it will grab a screenshot and you can specify a delay, so you have time to minimise it and open whatever menus you want12:45
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tristanthoreauputic : cannot find it in edit preferences. And, when I open a new folder I have to hit ctrl+L gain....12:45
thoreauputicsamu2: you can uninstall the old kernels12:45
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oggahNg: Okay, great!12:45
BooZeeanybody? help on flash ?12:46
thoreauputictristan: hang on I'll have a look here12:46
samu2thoreauputic, what are the package names of the old kernels then?12:46
tristanthoreauputic : thanks12:46
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thoreauputicsamu2: linux-image  something - look in synaptic12:46
joshihello. what is command for deleting directory?12:46
thoronIs good idea to use Ubuntu as OS for Bugzilla and version control server?12:47
dragoonrm -r12:47
frogzoojoshi: rm DIRNAME12:47
tristanjoshi : rm -r DIRNAME12:47
frogzoojoshi: rm -r if the directory's not empty12:47
samu2thoreauputic, ok ill have a look. thanks12:47
ragjoshi: rm -rf <dirname> # f for force if the directory is not empty12:47
samu2arent there different flags for different rm commands?12:48
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frogzoosamu2: man rm12:48
xiaogilIs there a command that takes an image A and a group of images, and tells which image of the group is the closest to image A ?12:49
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|Gmp|hey12:49
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[Jonne] is anyone running xfce here?12:49
thoreauputictristan: apps -system tools -config editor - apps -nautilus - preferences - always use location entry12:49
[Jonne] I accidentally hid my panel, and i can't get it back12:49
frogzooxiaogil: not in stock breezy - but there's AI tools probably - suggest google12:49
dooglusoggah: a nice simple solution is to use "import" from the imagemagick package, like this:    sleep 4; import -window root foo.png12:49
thoreauputictristan: sorry I thought it was an option in nautilus itself12:50
thoreauputictristan: found it ?12:50
oggahdooglus: okay!12:51
skarthoreauputic: any repo containing downloader prozilla?12:51
oggahused gimp's screendumpfunction. works fine.12:51
frogzooxiaogil: really, probably just something that will calculate the spacial correlation would suite most situations - & there's libraries that do spacial correlations12:51
dooglusoggah: you know how to make an alias in bash?  I've aliased that to "snap"12:51
oggahnopes?12:51
dj_smilee|workNg: what is rsync's main purpose. backup?12:51
thoreauputicskar: not that I know of - but try  apt-cache search downloader12:51
dooglusgedit ~/.bashrc and add a line at the end that says:    alias snap='sleep 4; import -window root'12:52
frogzoodj_smilee|work: main purpose is syncing directories ;)12:52
dooglusthen you can type "snap foo.png" to dump the screen into foo.png12:52
dj_smilee|workover a network?12:52
Ngdj_smilee|work: syncing files from one place to another, often for backup, but equally for mirroring, or if you want to complete a partial transfer or something - it's quite good at handling large files that have only changed a bit12:52
Ngdj_smilee|work: yeah, locally or over a network, or over ssh12:52
frogzoodj_smilee|work: think mirror sites12:52
thoreauputicskar: you might like d4x (downloader for X)12:52
Ngdj_smilee|work: it's a sweet tool :)12:52
dj_smilee|worksounds like the tool i need, gonna need a lot of flags to preserve the system though12:53
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dominichi all12:53
dj_smilee|worktime, ownership, symlinks, dir structure12:53
Ngdj_smilee|work: -a preserves pretty much everything12:53
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dj_smilee|workarchive mode?12:53
skarthoreauputic: i need a console program, no X, like a replacement for wget12:53
Nglook it up in the man page, it implies a bunch of other preservation options12:53
Ngyeah12:53
samu2thoreauputic, so if i have "linux-image-2.6.12-10-386" and "linux-image-2.6.12-9-386" installed, i should be able to remove the latter?12:53
thoreauputicskar: well there's curl...12:53
dj_smilee|workwhat is a hardlink?12:54
thoreauputicskar: what's wrong with wget ?12:54
frogzoothoreauputic: snap12:54
thoreauputicsamu2: I don't see why not, yes12:54
soundraydj_smilee|work, two filenames pointing to the same data on the disk.12:54
Ngdj_smilee|work: where you have two "files" that point at the same inode (the fs structure that contains a file)12:54
dooglusdj_smilee|work: it's a link that isn't soft...  (ie. not "ln -s" but just "ln"12:54
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skarthoreauputic: wget uses single http connection, proz uses 4 by default and can be increased or decreased by config12:54
dj_smilee|workah ok12:54
samu2thoreauputic, ok here goes, thanks again12:54
dj_smilee|workdont think i've got any of those :S12:54
dooglusdj_smilee|work: every regular file is a hard-link12:54
Ngdj_smilee|work: they're very useful, but can be quite confusing and dangerous if you don't know they're there12:54
skarthoreauputic: so proz proves faster than wget in most conditions12:55
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Ngdj_smilee|work: you almost certainly won't have any12:55
thoreauputicskar: I frown on leeching servers with multiple connections12:55
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dj_smilee|workgood'o12:55
MozoHi, I'm trying to install Kguitar, but I get this error:  checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!12:55
dooglusdj_smilee|work: type "ls -l" in a directory.  see the column of '1's just after the "-rw-r--r--" column?  that's the number of links to each file12:55
thoreauputicskar: besides which I don't believe those things help much anyway12:55
Mozook ok, I have libx11-dev installed :P12:55
dj_smilee|workah right, so the file system knows if there are multiple hardlinks12:56
dooglusNg: every file on his disk is a hard link.12:56
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frogzooskar: is that proz http 1.1 ?12:56
zool2005I've installed the 64 bit edition of Ubuntu but now I'm beginning to think it was a bad idea as many apps are not yet available for 64 bit with apt-get12:56
dj_smilee|workzool2005, chop your cpu in half12:56
zool2005do you think it would be better to download the 32 bit ed?12:57
blackhatanyone here have a laptop12:57
dj_smilee|workdual 32 bit cpu's :>12:57
blackhati want to install ubuntu but i cant resize partitions during setup like i can on my other computer12:57
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soundrayzool2005, same problem here. Three solutions: reinstall with -i386, setup a 32bit chroot, or run 32bit in qemu.12:57
frogzoozool2005: yup probly12:57
skarfrogzoo:dunno about its http protocol implementation, but i used to use it in gentoo to download the sources and it was blazing fast, with resume feature also12:57
thoreauputic!anyone12:57
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>12:57
zool2005nuts!12:57
nabucodorc' qualcuno che parla italiano?12:57
nabucodor:(12:57
Myrtti!it12:57
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!12:57
thoreauputic!it12:57
thoreauputicheh12:58
blackhatanyone here have a laptop12:58
frogzooskar: a better wget sounds just the ticket12:58
dragoonblackhat: yea12:58
blackhatwhich12:58
frogzooblackhat: lappie here12:58
[Jonne] anyone here running Ubuntu ? <grin>12:58
ph33rblackhat, jepp12:58
nabucodorma non mi risponde nessuno12:58
blackhati want to install ubuntu but i cant resize partitions during setup like i can on my other computer12:58
dragoonatm a Clevo D90012:58
ph33rblackhat, Toshiba Sattelite12:58
blackhati have a dell inspiron 600012:58
Seveasnabucodor, please stick to english in here - #ubuntu-it is for italian12:58
soundrayblackhat, is your windows partition nearly full?12:58
zool2005off to reinstall 32bit - bye12:58
blackhatNo12:58
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blackhatits not even half full12:58
frogzoolappie question - how can I disable power to 1 - PCMCIA slot  - 2 CD drive ?12:58
blackhatwhen i boot up i get a few options12:58
Ngdooglus: I know that, but when things like rsync talk about preserving hardlinks, they mean second hardlinks12:58
blackhaterase all and make linux or w/e12:59
blackhator edit the partition table manually12:59
blackhatand there is no resize options12:59
skarfrogzoo:http://prozilla.genesys.ro/ has some info right at the top, seems proz is top notch12:59
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Ngor rather, multiple hardlinks12:59
soundrayblackhat, do you have the live CD?12:59
blackhatno12:59
blackhatregular cd.12:59
KiLRoYG'day - gdm wont start - desktop stuck at 640 x480 - help12:59
frogzooskar: thx! :)12:59
soundrayblackhat, and no Knoppix or Kanotix lying around?12:59
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blackhatNope.01:00
blackhatWhy?01:00
dooglusNg: it means it preserves the structure of the links.  so if two links are pointing to the same inode before, they will be after, too.01:00
Ngdooglus: again, I know that01:00
frogzooskar: supports resume ie http 1.1 - sweet01:00
NgI use rsync all the time and hardlinks :)01:00
Ngdooglus: I'm just keeping my language consistent with the rsync man page01:00
soundrayblackhat, if you were to try qtparted for resizing, you would get an explanation for why it doesn't work, if it doesn't work.01:00
dj_smilee|work;)01:00
dooglusNg: ok.  it was when I saw you saying that he wouldn't have any hardlinks that I got the impression you didn't know what they were01:00
blackhat>_>01:00
soundrayblackhat, qtparted is on K*ix01:01
blackhatIt's NTFS partition.01:01
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blackhaton dell inspiron 600001:01
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blackhatI could resize in windows using partition magic, but wouldnt i have to defrag first so my files dont get messed up01:01
YukiIkyutablackhat, typically, PartitionMagic is careful of that for you.01:01
docta_vyea partition magic will take care of that01:01
thoreauputicKiLRoY: we might need a bit more info than that...01:01
blackhatok01:02
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blackhatso I can resize my partition using partition magic then enter the linux installation and install01:02
Ngdooglus: I try not to conceal things from people, but I reckon that is genuinely confusing if you don't know about inodes and so on (and there's no reason why most people should), but no problem :)01:02
docta_vyep01:02
soundrayblackhat, if you haven't defragged, this may be the reason why Ubuntu installer won't do the resizing.01:02
blackhathow much gb's does ubuntu require because i plan on giving it only about 8gb01:02
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jaaaroHi everyone.01:02
Seveasblackhat, that's enough01:02
docta_vit might be a decent idea to defrag anyway though01:02
corresponderhi01:02
blackhatk01:02
docta_veven though it's not required01:02
blackhatthanks for the help.01:02
soundraycorresponder, back so soon?01:02
jaaaroMy disk went to silicon heaven so I finally decided to switch from debian to ubuntu, but I have small problem.01:03
corresponder*g*01:03
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soundray:)01:03
jaaaroI'd like to get actual kernel without need of compilation. Is that possilbe?01:03
corresponderjap01:03
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corresponderwhat did you call actual?01:03
jaaaroI haven't found packages in repositories.01:03
soundrayjaaaro, with actual, do you mean current?01:03
jaaarocorresponder: e.g. 2.6.1301:03
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Ngno01:03
dooglusNg: I'd suggest that the problem lies with the rsync man page.  It's quite misleading, talking about "detecting hard links" in the description of the -H flag.  It means "detecting multiple hard links to the same i-node" I think.01:04
thoreauputicjaaaro: if by actual you mean "latest", no - but apt-cache search linux-image is a good start01:04
jaaarothat word doesn't matter that much - I've found none precompiled kernels.01:04
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frogzooblackhat: here's my lappie fs layout - http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/45529601:04
thoreauputicjaaaro: see above01:04
Ngdooglus: that's probably true01:04
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paineshi01:04
sayanhi01:04
ndlovuwhen I look in Synaptic, sun-j2re1.5 is installed, but java --version says it's 1.4.2 - is this correct?01:04
ph33rsoundray, I found drivers for the USB Wireless Card on Avaya.com Im burning them on a cd now :D01:04
skarthoreauputic: how to see installed vesion of a package?01:04
jaaarothoreauputic: wow. In fact. It's resolved now.01:04
Ngdooglus: I'm trying to weigh up how much an average rsync user needs to know that, vs if anyone who actually needs -H will already know that ;)01:05
thoreauputicndlovu:  update-alternatives --config java01:05
painesi have a problem with licq. I can only connect ones, the first time. when I shut down licq, and try to login again, it doesn't work anymore01:05
jaaaroI've installed warty from cd's and made upgrade to breezy via apt-get :)01:05
corresponderjaaaro: ubuntu comes with 2.6.1201:05
sayanhow could i backup using rsync01:05
soundrayph33r, can you point me to the download page pls?01:05
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thoreauputicskar: apt-cache policy <package>01:05
jaaaroand somehow linux-images weren't visible until now.01:05
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KiLRoYthoreauputic:gnome desktop manager hasn't started - i'm not sure how to start it, or why it didn't start01:05
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sayanI am new in ubuntu01:05
jaaarobut they are so I'm happy.01:05
thoreauputicKiLRoY: try (from a tty )  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start (or restart if that fails)01:06
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frogzoosayan: congrats01:07
thoreauputicKiLRoY: I assume you mean gdm and not gnome-session01:07
ndlovuthoreauputic: thanks, thats exactly what I needed. Except now java --version says "Could not create the Java virtual machine" :(01:07
jaaaroI also had mysterious problems with keyboard but I suppose they were as well caused by "system in upgrade01:07
jaaaro... system in upgrade" state.01:07
jaaaroI'l check that now.01:08
frogzooKiLRoY: do you mean the gui didn't start? ie it's an X configuration/vid driver problem01:08
thoreauputicndlovu: did you use a java deb or install from the sun installer?01:08
aeon17xA standard Ubuntu install can run just fine with 96 MB of RAM, right?01:08
soundrayaeon17x, that's very tight.01:08
janopotterhih01:08
janopotterhi01:08
thoreauputicaeon17x: rather slowly I would say01:08
SirKillalotdo you know a way to download a full (existing and running) phpbb forum?01:08
soundrayaeon17x, but it will run if you have swap space.01:08
SirKillalotand save it on the hdd01:08
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thoreauputicaeon17x: 128MB is probably minimum for gnome, really01:09
ph33rsoundray, just go to avaya.com and find "downloads" then you find software01:09
ph33rsoundray, and then you find your product :P01:09
samu2aeon17x, i ran gnome with 128MB earlier, it worked but it was a bit sluggish.01:09
sayanhi people !! I am new in this window01:09
soundrayph33r, I don't have one yet, just considering switching from Belkin.01:09
corresponder192mb is not much, too01:10
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corresponder128mb is better for using blackbox or fluxbox01:10
corresponder;-)01:10
aeon17xWill it run slower or just the same as if I have, let's say, Windows XP on it?01:10
Nikusanthoreauputic, I've got the same problem as ndlovu. And I installed java 1.5 update 6 using a deb made by java-package01:10
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Necrocidehile, I have a windows partition and a linux partition (ubuntu) I want to transfer some of the space from the windows partition, to my swap partition, and my ubuntu partition. Can I just boot my windows and then deincrease the size of the partition, and then increase the swap and ubuntu partition?01:10
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corresponderhmmm01:11
ndlovuthoreauputic: was a while back, before I upgraded, but I see jre-1_5_0_01-linux-i586.bin in my downloads01:11
thoreauputicNikusan: hmm - I don't know then - it worked fine here01:11
corresponderbackup before01:11
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Necrocide:/01:11
thoreauputic!tell ndlovu about javadeb01:11
terekkerhi got my free ubuntu cd in the mail today01:11
correspondercool01:11
sayanhi how rsync help me to backup01:11
terekkerlive disk fails to boot01:11
KiLRoYthoreauputic: tried the  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start -  * Starting GNOME Display Manager...              [fail] 01:11
KiLRoYand yes the gdm01:11
Ngsayan: there are many ways to do it - if you google for rsync backup you will probably find many tutorials :)01:12
terekkerstops at hot plug subsystem - any ideas?01:12
frogzooterekker: check /var/log/messages01:12
thoreauputicKiLRoY: do you have X running or just a tty ?01:12
sayanany link could you suggest01:12
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dj_smilee|workrsync is popular today D:01:12
billy_boy_mccoy_hello01:12
corresponderhi01:12
terekkerhow can I check the messages file if the os didnt start up?01:12
soundrayaeon17x, WinXP and Gnome will have similar difficulties. There's no exact comparison though.01:12
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corresponderterekker: knoppix01:12
thoreauputicKiLRoY: if X won't start at all, do   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:12
ndlovuhoreauputic: how would I get rid of old java packages? 1.5 I can get remove with synaptic. 1.4.2. I'm not so sure about?01:13
billy_boy_mccoy_i got a problem01:13
soundrayNecrocide, Windows cannot resize it's own partition.01:13
corresponderor tomsrtbt01:13
ndlovuerm, thoreauputic that es01:13
KiLRoYthoreauputic: have tried a restart - no luck there either01:13
Necrocidesoundray, im using Partition Magic, then I can01:13
corresponderpre beta01:13
corresponder;-)01:13
sayanthanks bye01:13
aeon17xI see. Thanks.01:13
thoreauputicKiLRoY: have you tried the command I just gave you ?01:13
soundrayNecrocide, okay, so what do you want to know?01:13
terekkeri can download knoppix but I'd much rather get this working since I've got it already01:13
NecrocideIf it's possible01:13
joda_quick question: in which file is routing tables saved? the guide I've found talks about /etc/sysconfig/network...01:13
KiLRoYabout to01:13
frogzooterekker: boot a recovery disk will do it, ubuntu live, RIP, or try the recovery option in grub01:13
NecrocideTo not screw up ubuntu01:13
billy_boy_mccoy_i installed unbuntu on partion, installed windows xp on other however windows xp wnet kapt01:13
billy_boy_mccoy_how do i get on to unbuntu?01:13
thoreauputicndlovu: if you installed with synaptic, remove with synaptic or apt01:14
aeon17x!pastebin01:14
ubotuwell, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com01:14
oggahHow switch to small icons in Gaim?01:14
oggahthink the default listing of buddies in gaim is to big.01:14
oggahclumsy.01:14
Dr_Acemasteroggah it's in the preferences01:14
corresponderbilly_boy_mccoy_: better install first win the ubuntu01:14
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terekkerso you can't provide a kernel parameter for grub that will skip the hot plug subsystem?01:15
soundrayNecrocide, if you create a partition in space you gain from resizing Win, you may have to change /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/menu.lst.01:15
aeon17xOne more thing, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/45530701:15
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soundrayNecrocide, other than that, I wouldn't expect any trouble.01:15
NecrocideI willl try, if I fuck up, I fuck up :P01:15
corresponderthe=then01:15
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frogzooNecrocide: that's the spirit!01:16
aeon17xHow do I do the "Work Console" install?01:16
soundrayNecrocide, good luck.01:16
ndlovuhow can I remove a package without removing packages that depend on it? (eg. freemind depends java - remove java and it wants to remove freemind also)01:16
Necrocide:)01:16
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|Gmp|how do i mae the time in 12hour and not 24hour?01:16
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Chousukendlovu: --ignore-depends or something?01:16
soundrayNecrocide, you could just use the entire Win partition for Ubuntu. That would be easiest :)01:16
Ng|Gmp|: at the top right of the screen? right click on it and choose preferences01:16
frogzoosoundray has a point01:16
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|Gmp|the clocks at the top right01:17
Necrocidei swtiched to linux the other day, so I need to evaluate it before i wipe my windows :D01:17
corresponder*g*01:17
frogzoo|Gmp|: right click clock -> prefs01:17
|Gmp|its 2 hours short01:17
Dr_AcemasterNecrocide just have it dual boot, you prob don't ever want to remove windows completely01:17
aeon17xNecrocide: don't wipe your windows, especially if you paid for it.01:17
|Gmp|thats weird01:17
joda_can anyone tell me, when I make changes with the ip command, like "ip add default 192.168.1.1", where does that info get saved?01:17
NecrocideI got dual boot01:17
|Gmp|Necrocide, duel boot01:17
czrjoda_, kernel memory01:18
docta_vaeon17x, hehe01:18
corresponderjoda_: /etc/network01:18
NecrocideBut I need more space on my Linux partition, that I have to take from my windows01:18
czrip never touches any files01:18
thoreauputicndlovu: the removed package will still be in the cache so you can reinstall it after you get a working java01:18
Ngjoda_: if you want to make permanent changes, edit /etc/network/interfaces01:18
aeon17xNecrocide: you can shrink it.01:18
Ngjoda_: see "man interfaces" for docs on what you can put in there01:18
Necrocideah01:18
corresponderdelete win01:18
Necrocidewith no problem?01:18
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corresponder;-P01:18
joda_ok, thanks all01:18
NecrocideUbuntu wont fuck up?01:18
Dr_AcemasterNecrocide yeah good luck w/ that, very high chance of jacking everything up01:18
Necrocide:/01:18
aeon17xNecrocide: yeah, it's quite safe from what I hear.01:19
NecrocideI try and get back to you guys01:19
corresponderlol01:19
soundrayNecrocide, before you start...01:19
NecrocideI hope :=01:19
czrNecrocide, defrag ntfs fully before even attempting that01:19
corresponderpartition magic= problem magic01:19
joda_I'm trying to do a loadbalancing between two internet connections - the guides I've found recommend activating this using the ip command01:19
NecrocideHmm01:19
joda_when I try it, it says "file already exists"01:19
KiLRoYthoreauputic:   Use kernel framebuffer device interface?  (on a nvfx5200) yes or no ??01:19
thoreauputicNecrocide: you might want to use gparted on the live CD01:20
soundrayNecrocide, do you know how to select and boot a kernel from the grub command line?01:20
czrjoda_, it's a generic error message meaning 'the thing you just tried to do is already present in system'01:20
billy_boy_mccoy_yeah i have just fromatted hardsik01:20
thoreauputicKiLRoY: shouldn't matter much - accept the default01:20
joda_so it just means that it's already got a default gateway01:20
KiLRoYok01:20
billy_boy_mccoy_am gona reinstall windows01:20
NecrocideDefrag, shrink windows partition with 5gb, increase Linux part. 4,5gb and increase swap with 500mb01:20
czrjoda_, /etc/network doesn't support ip anyway. so you're better off doing a script that will be run on boot that will contain the extra ip-command sequences01:20
billy_boy_mccoy_see if i can et that working01:20
Necrocidesoundray, no.01:20
czrjoda_, probably in this case. check with ip (it has displaying options)01:20
billy_boy_mccoy_i thin my experiment with linux has failed on my gammiing pc01:21
frogzooczr: see /etc/network/interfaces01:21
joda_ok, great, thanks :)01:21
thoreauputicKiLRoY: you might want to use the vesa driver if all else fails - at least that should work OK until you can troubleshoot01:21
czrfrogzoo, a) I'm not the one needing help, b) interfaces does not support multiple default gateways01:21
thoreauputicKiLRoY: remeber you can re-run this command any time01:21
NecrocideTime to try. I get back to you guys if I succede :)01:21
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czrjoda_, have fun. document your working config when you get it running01:22
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czrjoda_, it's not simple, basically it's a simplified instance of policy-based routing01:22
soundrayNecrocide, look at the commands for booting you current kernel in /boot/grub/menu.lst. If Ubuntu doesn't boot, you can enter those commands (root, kernel, initrd) in grub. You need to hit 'c' on the grub start screen.01:22
joda_Crz - will do - it's for a school project, so documentation is part of the process. I'll put it up on the wiki if I get it working01:22
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czrjoda_, try to find proper info on 'ip', it is very powerful01:23
zandaadooglus, hiya01:23
joda_Czr: I've been looking at the documentation for iptables, but maybe I'd better be more specific, and look at the ip command itself01:24
Dr_Acemastermy wirless was working fine the other day, now it just won't pull an ip from the router, any idea how to fix it?01:24
czrjoda_, iptables != ip01:24
zandaaDr_Acemaster, have you tried rebooting the router?01:24
Dr_Acemasterand it's not hardware, as windows can pull an ip01:24
czrjoda_, iptables is a tool to tell the kernel firewalling logic what to do, ip is a tool for anything else related to routing01:25
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Dr_Acemasterdamn wrong button01:25
joda_right, then it's definitely ip I need - great info, thanks :)01:25
czrjoda_, have fun. there is also arptables and brtables ;-)01:25
Ngjoda_: the iptables manpage is pretty good, otherwise there are some docs on its homepage (netfilter.samba.org afair)01:26
Dr_AcemasterI can see the connection on wifi radar and even says connected at the bottom, but can't pull an ip01:26
joda_czr, hehe - I think I'll just stick with ip for now01:26
Ngjoda_: there are also lots of iptables tutorials online01:26
czrjoda_, and vconfig and bridge-related tools, don't remeber their names. in short there are lot of low-level networking tools01:26
joda_basically I need to give users access to several net connections01:26
czrjoda_, trough your router?01:27
czrI mean Linux ;-)01:27
dragooniptables + webmin01:27
dragoon:p01:27
czrsomehow iptables + webmin doesn't compute :-)01:27
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ndlovuthoreauputic: I still have a java version located at /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-gcj-4.0-1.4.2.0/ that wasn't installed with apt - how would I get rid of it? rm -rf?01:27
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Ngdragoon: webmin is horrible ;)01:27
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thoreauputicndlovu: no01:28
czrjoda_, if you want it to work properly, you'll also need to duplicate your linux gateway that does the load balancing01:28
dragooni know01:28
czrjoda_, that is much harder to do especially if your box is doing NAT01:28
thoreauputicndlovu: run   update-alternatives --config java01:28
kiran_dsd01:28
joda_czr: well, 3 routers with an internet connection each, one for gaming (low ping) and two for download - I need loadbalancing between the two for download, and giving the users a chance to switch between the loadbalanced ones, and the gaming line01:28
ndlovuthoreauputic - so then just leave the old version installed?01:29
thoreauputicndlovu: that installation is the "free" java installed by default01:29
joda_czr: I'm not running nat on the machine - I'm leaving that to the routers01:29
czrjoda_, you need to do it with ip and policy-routing01:29
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czrjoda_, and user switching means that policy-routing tables will be changed01:29
thoreauputicndlovu: I did - I'm not sure if it would be needed or not01:29
kiran_hello friends i am new to linux01:29
joda_crz: yeah, that's how I figured I'd do it01:29
czrjoda_, how will users control which link they will use?01:29
thoreauputicndlovu: possibly it isn't, but I play safe ;)01:29
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joda_crz: well, we where thinking of a web interface with mac address filtering, so that each user can change routing for the machine she is on01:30
joda_crz: but that part will probably just be theoretical01:30
joda_crz: right now, I just want to prove I can do it manually - after that I can easily argue that a script can be made to handle the change01:31
whiteknighthey a;;01:31
whiteknightall*01:31
joda_crz that's the plan, anyways :)01:31
KiLRoYthoreauputic:did "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", re-run "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start", result was "* Starting GNOME Display Manager...              [fail] 01:31
KiLRoY"01:31
czrjoda_, yeah. sounds solid. just remember policy-routing01:31
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czrjoda_, the policy routing engine though will use IP addresses of hosts, not MACs01:31
czrjoda_, but I guess that is ok for your needs?01:32
thoreauputicKiLRoY: do you have X running at all ? have you tried just typing  " startx " ?01:32
joda_crz: yeah, the idea is that we set up dhcp that links ip to mac, so that would work too01:32
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Fujoorhey people, i have a lil question, today i did a "server" install of ubuntu, when its finished, the first thing i do is i do an apt-get upgrade command01:32
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Fujoorbut it says something is missing and that i should do an apt-get update01:33
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KiLRoYthoreauputic: don't know if X is running, will try startx01:33
Fujoori meant update in the first one too01:33
thoreauputicFujoor: and did you?01:33
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Fujooryes, it says i should do an update when i do an update01:33
thoreauputicKiLRoY: do you have a graphical interface, or not?01:33
NgFujoor: does the box have network access setup?01:33
Fujoorand after that i cant install much else because it says that its missing some stuff and i should do an update01:33
joda_crz: well, I've got som reading to do. I may be back when it doesn't work at all :)01:34
Fujoornq: yes, when i tried a pure debian install it worked01:34
NgFujoor: can you ping something on the net, for example? The exact error message would be useful (use a pastebin if it's long)01:34
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thoreauputicKiLRoY: if X isn't running you just get a black screen with a prompt01:34
NgFujoor: I'm not aksing about a pure debian install, I'm asking about that exact ubuntu install :)01:34
Fujoorng: oh, i did it in vmware01:34
czrjoda_, heh, just don't ask me about policy routing ;-)01:34
czrshould do some work meanwhile01:34
thoreauputicFujoor: erm, why not mention that first?01:34
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joda_crz: wouldn't want you to do all my homework for me ;)01:35
Fujoorthore: oh sorry, didnt think it mattered , you mean the vmware?01:35
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Fujooryou think vmware is the bad guy in the drama?01:35
thoreauputicFujoor: of course - it could be a vmware issue, right ?01:35
KiLRoYthoreauputic;deff haven't got that01:35
thoreauputicKiLRoY: haven't got what? Be precise , please!01:36
Tuntis*whoops*01:36
TuntisI think...01:36
oggahis there any spyware, trojans n stuff for ubuntu?01:36
Fujoorthore: perhaps yes, i will try it on my comp when i get home in a couple of months, but im eager to try it out now :)01:36
KiLRoYa black screen01:36
TuntisThat I just killed my Ubuntu01:36
KiLRoYwith prompt01:36
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TuntisHow would I fix my MBR to use ntloader again?01:36
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thoreauputicKiLRoY: what *do* you have then?01:36
Fujoorand when i choose xserver-xfree86 , which is the most usual graphic driver?01:36
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Ngyou don't want xfree86, you want xserver-xorg :)01:37
thoreauputicFujoor: latest Ubuntu uses xserver-xorg, not xfree8601:37
blackhaTWhen installing ubuntu it asks if I want to install grub, well I do want to install it but not on my MBR, I want to install it on the Linux Root partition and make it bootable just incase something goes wrong it doesn't effect my windows partition, is this possible?01:37
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Fujoorng: oh, but i saw them use xfree in a ubuntu minimal guide, but xserver-xorg is already preinstalled right?01:37
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TuntisblackhaT, if you select no, it asks where to install (afaik)01:37
Fujooror do i have to apt-get that one aswell?01:37
NgFujoor: if you did a server install it probably isn't installed01:37
blackhaTOkay01:37
blackhaTThank you.01:37
zandaaanyone know any fun little games for gnome to install???01:37
frogzoozandaa: lincity's pretty ok01:38
TuntisWon't promise anything.01:38
thoreauputicFujoor: you would need x-window-system-core and a window manager01:38
Fujoorng: ah ... so to install say, xubuntu-desktop, i need the xserver-xorg and the xterm terminal, is that it?01:38
Fujoorand wdm, or was it xdm?01:38
Hanni ordered my CDs about 6 months ago and i;m still freakin waiting for my damn CDs!!!!!!!01:38
Seveaszandaa, xmoto, pingus, atomix, monkey-bubble01:38
thoreauputicFujoor: or install xubuntu-desktop if you like xfce401:38
KiLRoYthoreauputic: what i have is a desktop resolution of 640 x480 and "gdm" not running.01:39
SeveasHann, hoary cd's are no longer sent, so you will probably never receive those01:39
thoreauputicFujoor: xubuntu-desktop includes an xserver01:39
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Fujoorah, so i should apt-get xubuntu-desktop and x-window-system-core, thats it? lovely :)01:39
blackhaTif I have 4 partitions on my drive, can I make the 4th partition bootable and put grub on it?01:39
siriusnovahi01:39
Hannbefore that, i made another order and it never came01:39
thoreauputicKiLRoY: so you didn't get a login screen?01:39
siriusnovaI have a question, I have a 400mhz PII with 256 mb RAM, should I run ubuntu?01:39
Fujoordoes xubuntu-desktop come with the terminal windows and all?01:39
NgblackhaT: that depends on your bios and disk setup, but probably if it's a fairly new PC01:39
Hannit's like ubuntu hates me01:39
docta_vblackhaT, no need to change which partition is bootable01:39
thoreauputicKiLRoY: how did you start X then?01:39
blackhaTits a dell inspiron 6000, just bought it.01:39
docta_vsince you can install grub to the MBR01:40
siriusnovaits an IBM Thinkpad 600E01:40
blackhaTI don't want too.01:40
zandaaseveas: it can't finbd xmoto in the repositories01:40
blackhaTI want to install it on the Linux root partition01:40
KiLRoYthoreauputic: yes i got a login screen at startup01:40
SeveasHann, more like post office or US customs...01:40
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Hannmaybe01:40
thoreauputicKiLRoY: *cough* that would be gdm then01:40
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Seveaszandaa, grab it from seveas.ubuntulinux.nl (in breezy there was a bug that caused it to not be included)01:40
docta_vyea you could do that then...as long as it's a primary partition01:40
docta_vand not extended01:40
Fujoorng: does the xubuntu-desktop come with the fancy transparent terminals and all?01:40
Seveaszandaa, and don't forget supertux :)01:40
blackhaTHow do I make it primary01:40
Hanni'm just so frustrated....01:40
thoreauputicKiLRoY: so you have your terminology mixed Ithink01:40
NgFujoor: I have no idea, but probably not01:40
zandaaseveas: thanks :)01:40
NgFujoor: if you want a pretty desktop, install ubuntu-desktop, not xubuntu-desktop01:41
NgFujoor: or just do a full install ;)01:41
thoreauputic!tell KiLRoY about fixres01:41
Fujoorng: but the comp im gonna install it aint that new :)01:41
siriusnovais Ubuntu on a 400mhz PII with 256mb RAm going to be a crap experience like SUSE?01:41
siriusnovaor should i go back to freebsd :(01:41
NgFujoor: then you probably don't want transparent terminals01:41
Fujoorng: thats why i was consindering xubuntu, but xubuntu looks quite nice on the screenshots01:41
Seveassiriusnova, try xubuntu01:41
dragoonopenbsd! ftw01:41
siriusnovawhat is xubuntu?01:41
docta_vsiriusnova, it mainly depends on your window manager01:41
Seveassiriusnova, ubuntu with xfce instead of gnome01:42
siriusnovadoct_v - im guessing gnome is out of the question01:42
zandaaseveas: if I download it from your website, how do I install it if it's on desktop?01:42
docta_vsiriusnova, heh heh...i wouldn't even run gnome on a 3ghz01:42
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siriusnovaheh01:42
Seveaszandaa, you should add that repository to your sources.list and use apt01:42
docta_vxfce is nice...you'll like that01:42
Ngdocta_v: plenty would :)01:42
blackhaTOkay I have four partitions, 1 is windows, 1 is a restore, 1 linux and 1 linux swap, i want to install grub on linux and make it bootable just incase something goes wrong it wont affect my windows01:42
siriusnovaI usually run FreeBSD on my laptop, but as of late im thinking Linux01:42
blackhaTis this possible if so how can I do it dfuring the installation01:42
zandaaseveas: ah.. thanks I'm still not used to the way linux works01:42
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docta_vor slome as i call it01:42
Seveasdocta_v, how many ghz would it take to let you run KDE? :)01:43
Ngdocta_v: lame :)01:43
docta_vKDE is faster than gnome01:43
Seveasrofl01:43
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docta_vit always has been01:43
Seveaskde is overhead & eyecandy central01:43
docta_vi don't use kde either though...i prefer xfce01:43
Seveasit;s technically impossible for it to be faster01:43
interozi am a debian user and don't know much of ubuntu. i installed ubuntu at a friend of mine, who's a linux newbie. the problem is that after a plain install gnome didn't start (could not understand why). so i installed xfce, and it went fine. how can i actually use gnome?01:44
czrit's possible to disable all eyecandy and use a lighter theme01:44
czrthen it will fly Seveas01:44
oggahsiriusnova, what freebsd version you run on your laptop? and what manufactor is your laptop?01:44
Seveasczr, same for gnome :)01:44
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czrSeveas, but gnome uses GTK+ which uses pango which makes text painful01:44
NgI'm on a 1.6Ghz Pentium M and gnome runs fine01:44
Ngczr: s/painful/beautiful/ :)01:44
siriusnovaoggah - last version I ran was 5.4 and its an IBM Thinkpad 600E01:45
Ngand the CPU is idling at 50% speed most of the time01:45
czrpainfully slow compared to anything else. happy Ng? :-)01:45
MyrttiI'm on a 800MHz Duron and Gnome runs fine01:45
Ngczr: no, because that's rubbish :)01:45
Ngczr: are you running an unaccelerated X driver or something?01:45
oggahsiriusnova, interesting. I got a thinkpad T41. And really want to run either *bsd or linux on it.01:45
czrNg, everything is fine at my end01:45
siriusnovahttp://www.ece.umr.edu/~taknnc/600E.html01:45
siriusnova^^01:45
samu2my p3 600 runs reasonably well01:45
Seveasczr, pango is still somewhat unoptimized, but it's great. Dappers pango will be muvh better though01:45
czrGtk-based apps are just more sluggish, esp since pango01:45
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czrjust compare any gtk1.2 vs 2.6/2.701:46
ndlovuthoreauputic: thanks, java working great now! update-alternatives also good to know about.01:46
czr2.8 :-)01:46
Seveasczr, but gtk1 is plain ugly01:46
thoreauputicndlovu: glad to hear it :)01:46
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czryes, but it's fast. and I think that was the issue here01:46
czrsaying something like 'technically it's impossible for beat gnome in speed' is rather daft imho01:47
Seveasnot in case of KDE01:47
Seveasthat has overhead written al over it in big red letters :)01:47
czron all the computers that I've used, kde has always been more responsive once you disable shadows and all that shit01:47
thoreauputic!start adesktop war01:48
ubotuthoreauputic: Are you smoking crack?01:48
thoreauputic!start a desktop war01:48
uboturatpoison is much better than xfce!01:48
czrbut that's just me, I don't care :-)01:48
thoreauputichear hear!01:48
samu2he he01:48
Seveasratpoison...01:48
thoreauputicreally, lets forget the KDE vs Gnome stuff01:48
dragoonfluxbox is better then both01:48
dragoonend of story01:48
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siriusnovaoggah - http://gerda.univie.ac.at/freebsd-laptops/01:49
oggahsiriusnova, cool. what window manager comes with freebsd?01:49
thoreauputicdragoon: you won't get any argument from me on that one :)01:49
dragoon:)01:49
oggah*freebsd-newbie* got some small experiences with linux.01:49
SeveasCARBON BEATS ALL!!1121!!@01:49
siriusnovaoggah - no window manager comes as default, you choose what you want01:49
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siriusnovaFreeBSD basically requires you to set up everything01:50
samu2carbon sure is the best element01:50
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Seveasthoreauputic, well..01:50
siriusnovawhen you install x.org you can also install the window manager of your choosing01:50
zandaaseveas, I can't seem to add the repository...01:50
oggahokay.01:51
Seveaszandaa, why not?01:51
oggahive heard the freebsd installation is kinda complicated.01:51
siriusnovaanyway FreeBSD is nice, but i felt like using linux, at the moment im using Knoppix as I hosed my harddrive :)01:51
oggahsiriusnova, what WM do you run?01:51
zandaaseveas, it won't appear in my list when I click add>custom>seveas.ubuntulinux.nl01:51
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Seveasoggah, it's not as easy as ubuntu01:51
siriusnovaoggah - its definetly not for newbies, FreeBSD requires you to set up everything manually. The best place to start is to read the handbook http://www.freebsd.org/handbook01:51
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Seveaszandaa, you need to add deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ ubuntu-seveas breezy-custom01:52
dragoonopenbsd / netbsd are alot nicer01:52
Seveas(iirc)01:52
Chousukeoggah: it is after you get used to the easy installation that distros like Debian offers. :P01:52
dragoonnew freebsd is wierd01:52
zandaaseveas ah ok01:52
siriusnovaactually i take that back, i first started with FreeBSD since I hated slackware hehe01:52
Seveaszandaa, you need to add deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ breezy-seveas breezy-custom01:52
siriusnovaactually the FreeBSD install is pretty darn easy01:52
Seveas(my bad)01:52
oggahChousuke, I presume so :)01:53
zandaaseveas: now the synaptic program doesn't want to respond <_<01:53
siriusnovait guides you through it01:53
oggahsiriusnova, kay.01:53
siriusnovabut FreeBSD requires you to read the handbook, as EVERYTHING is explained in it.01:53
Seveaszandaa, then simply use a text editor to add that line to /etc/apt/sources.list :)01:53
TuntisHello people01:53
SeveasHi Tuntis01:53
siriusnovaeverything from servers to confugring X01:53
TuntisI destroyed my Ubuntu installation01:53
TuntisNow I want to reinstall it01:53
TuntisBut Grub is on the way.01:53
SeveasTuntis, pop in the cd and repeat what you did last time you installed :)01:53
TuntisIf I delete the Ubuntu partitions, grub won't work.01:53
zandaaseveas: I take it I have to use sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list ?01:53
Seveaszandaa, correct01:54
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oggahsiriusnova, what window manage / desktop envir. you run on freebsd?01:54
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TuntisI were going to ask, if just formatting them and directly booting from the ubuntu cd would work.01:54
zandaaseveas: yay, I understand the sudo concept :P01:54
siriusnovaoggah - KDE01:54
Tuntis(wait, deleting them)01:54
siriusnovaor twm, when im feeling elite01:54
siriusnovalol01:54
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Seveaszandaa, good :)01:54
Seveassiriusnova, twm!01:54
thoreauputicsiriusnova: or masochistic ... ;)01:54
kuRupTwich one must i downlaod? -> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp01:54
oggahsiriusnova, isnt KDE slow on that machine?01:54
siriusnovaactually i use twm a lot because its simple and doesn't use resources :)01:54
joda_can someone tell me how I get a list of current connections to and from my machine?01:54
Seveastwm is cool for the minimalistic01:54
siriusnovaoggah - FreeBSD is very fast so KDE doesnt seem slow at all01:54
SeveasI used it on the old crappy sparc4 machines01:55
siriusnovaSeveas - i like minimalism01:55
siriusnovatwm also makes me feel like im some kind of uber hacker01:55
siriusnova:P01:55
oggahcool. KDE with ubuntu is slow ive heard.01:55
Seveasjoda_, netstat -t01:55
joda_thanks01:55
alley_mhello... want to start a second xserver on display 3... I don't understand the syntax in man startx... anyone inside to tell me the needed command?01:55
siriusnovaoggah - compared to Linux, FreeBSD hauls..01:55
thoreauputicjoda_: install iftop and do something like  sudo iftop -BP -i eth001:55
zandaaseveas: now I can't use the terminal to apt-get because the synaptic froze on me and is still accessing stuff01:55
Seveasalley_m, startx :3 (iirc)01:55
kuRupTcan someone help me? wich one must i downlaod? -> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp01:55
siriusnovaI ran Gnome and KDE on my 400mhz PII, i ran suse on the same laptop and it was DOG slow01:56
alley_mnot with -d?01:56
oggahsiriusnova, sorry. hauls? dont understand that word.01:56
siriusnovaoggah - really fast01:56
oggahah!01:56
Seveaszandaa, killall synaptic01:56
zandaatrough terminal?01:56
TuntisSo Seveas01:56
Seveasalley_m, not at all improbable, last time I used startx is a long long time ago01:56
oggahvery snappy? responsive?01:56
TuntisI delete the old Ubuntu partitions and boot from the install cd?01:56
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alley_mhm.. ok... will give it a try...01:56
Chousukethe FreeBSD Handbook is excellent.01:57
interozanyone has issues with gnome just right after install? issues = after gdm login it doesn't start01:57
SeveasTuntis, or you simply let the installer overwrite the old partitions01:57
siriusnovaoggah - FreeBSD is a great OS, but it is a TRUE UNIX, it doesnt hold your hand, but it will guide you through everything with the excellent documentation..01:57
siriusnovaoggah - yes, very fast and responsive01:57
Seveassiriusnova, stop spamming freebsd :p01:57
oggahsiriusnova, thats the only thing I dislike bout ubuntu. even with lighweight window managers. it isnt very snappy and responsive.01:57
rob1Seveas, good call01:57
siriusnovaChousuke - yeah FreeBSD handbook is great, every Linux distro needs a FreeBSD Handbook counterpart01:57
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Seveassiriusnova, that's true...01:57
siriusnovalol Seveas01:57
Chousukesiriusnova: Debian documentation is quite good too.01:58
zandaaseveas: it still can't find the xmoto package01:58
ChousukeI think EVERY OSS project need a FreeBSD handbook counterpart.01:58
thoreauputicfreeBSD ---> #ubuntu-offtopic  ;-)01:58
alley_mhm.. invalid MIT-MAGIG-Cookie-Key 1... @seveas01:58
siriusnovalol01:58
Seveaszandaa, apt-get update01:58
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siriusnovaChousuke - debian documentation is great, if you can get past the install :P01:58
zandaaseveas, ah thanks01:58
siriusnovai gave up trying to install debian because it was nuts01:58
kuRupTcan someone help meee????????? ..01:59
Chousukesiriusnova: the install is easy ;P01:59
docta_vfreebsd is cool but it should come with a drill so you can drill a hole in your skull to relieve pressure on your brain after finishing with the install process01:59
Seveassiriusnova, debian install actually is quite easy01:59
thoreauputicsiriusnova: the install is much easier than it was with Woody01:59
Seveas!tell kuRupT about anyone01:59
dragoondocta_v: freebsd is easy to install01:59
ChousukeMy first ever successfull linux install was debian woody01:59
siriusnovathoreauputic - i guess they improved it01:59
ChousukeI failed with mandrake and fedora.01:59
thoreauputicsiriusnova: indeed01:59
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Seveassiriusnova, Ubuntu uses the same installer ;)01:59
ChousukeI fot them installed, but they didn't work01:59
kuRupTSeveas,  wich one must i downlaod? -> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp01:59
Chousukegot*01:59
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Chousukeergo, debian's installation was easier.02:00
SeveaskuRupT, 'linux self extracting binary'02:00
frogzooif I install fluxbox as wm, will things break? is it much faster than gdm ?02:00
thoreauputic!tell kuRupT about javadeb02:00
SeveasNOT the rpm02:00
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siriusnovaanyway oggah - try freebsd if you like it, its true Unix and as such you will learn a lot, in many ways its similar to linux, pick your poison :)02:00
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Chousukefrogzoo: gdm isn't a WM02:00
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zandaaseveas: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/555002:00
Chousukefrogzoo: but yes, fluxbox is fast.02:00
zogbuntuevms_open_engine() failed with error code 13: Permission denied02:00
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Chousukeit's just not as easy to use as gnome, because it's not a DE02:00
zogbuntugot this applying updates after a straight install02:01
Seveaszandaa, je moet mijn key nog aan apt doorgeven02:01
zogbuntugoogle doesnt show much ubuntu specific, is it a FAQ?02:01
zandaaseveas, which key is that?02:01
Seveasgpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 1135D46602:01
Seveasgpg --export --armor 1135D466 | sudo apt-key add -02:01
kuRupTh Seveas where is 'linux self extracting binary' i cant find it02:01
oggahsiriusnova, I am definitely going to try freebsd, sometime. Right now Im in the middle of learning Ubuntu, linux. What version of freebsd do you recommend?02:01
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SeveaskuRupT, do you want to compile java things?02:02
Seveasor just run them?02:02
frogzooChousuke: DE ?02:02
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Chousukedesktop environment02:02
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frogzooah, thx02:02
siriusnovaoggah - i think 6.0 is the newest release02:03
KiLRoYthoreauputic: what was that link again for the fix res prob - firefox would not start b402:03
Seveas!fixres02:03
ubotuhmm... fixres is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:03
kuRupTSeveas, jey i wont to compile it.. for my aureus and so one02:03
siriusnovabut before you try it, at least glance through the handbook http://www.freebsd.org/handbook02:03
joda_how do I check if a specific kernel option is selected?02:03
thoreauputic!fixres02:03
siriusnovait explains everything, how to compile the kernel, set up sound, install packages etc..02:03
KiLRoYthx02:03
thoreauputicheh I didn't see that seveas, sorry ;)02:03
SeveaskuRupT, then click the 'Download jdk 5.0 update 6' link02:04
kuRupTSeveas, but wich one of theme? http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/02:04
siriusnovaanyway - back to Ubuntu02:04
siriusnovaso should I try Ubuntu or stick to freebsd? :(02:04
No1VikingWhat application should I use to look at a DVD?02:04
kuRupTSeveas, ah oke thx02:04
zandaaSeveas, hoe geef ik jouw key door aan apt??? (en wat is die key??)02:04
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siriusnovaespecially on a 400mhz PII with 256mb RAM02:04
SeveaskuRupT, none of the ones from giannaros.org, they are outdate02:04
Seveaszandaa, gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 1135D46602:05
kuRupThm02:05
Seveaszandaa, gpg --export --armor 1135D466 | sudo apt-key add -02:05
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kuRupTSeveas, and then this one Download Now!  Linux RPM in self-extracting file or this one Download Now!  Linux self-extracting file02:05
Seveaskurros, linux self-extracting file02:06
SeveasNOT the rpm02:06
SeveaskuRupT*02:06
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kuRupToki02:06
kuRupTi'm sry.. but i dont speak english wery well xD02:06
joda__I got disconnected, so I'm afraid I'll have to ask again: how do I check if a kernel option has been selected?02:06
SeveaskuRupT, good enough :)02:07
kuRupTSeveas, hehe :D from where are you all?..02:07
kuRupT<--- is from europe :D02:08
SeveaskuRupT, there are localized channels too, #ubuntu-de #ubutnu-it or #ubuntu-fr should work for you :)02:08
frauholleGermany02:08
kuRupTSeveas, i know =) i speak german.. i'm also in #ubuntu-de ;)02:08
kuRupTfrauholle, gut gg ;P02:09
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liam01gutntag02:09
liam01lol02:09
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kuRupThehe02:09
kuRupTmoinZ02:09
kuRupT<-- from Swiss =)02:09
sonoroustachZ02:09
zandaaseveas: alsnog wil hij niet werken, hij geeft een paar foutmeldingen02:09
Seveaszandaa, on the pastebin please :)02:10
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nifelsekihi guys.. need help to have my g132 wireless adapter to work..02:11
nifelsekihaving a hard time making use of ndiswrapper02:11
corresponderwhich chipset?02:11
nifelsekiatheros02:12
Seveasatheros does not need ndiswrapper02:12
painesnifelseki, madwifi drivers02:12
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nifelsekihmmmmm.. i'll try that.. thanks02:12
thoronThere seems to be no trully free WLAN drivers available.02:12
zandaaseveas: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/555102:12
thoronAt least for 54Mbps speed.02:13
liam01the defaults have always worked for me02:13
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Seveaszandaa, gpg --export --armor 1135D466 | sudo -H apt-key add -02:13
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Seveaszandaa, and the first command did not need sudo, you might have messed up something02:14
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zandaaseveas: so what do I do now??? (the command you just sent didn't wanna work either)02:14
Seveaszandaa, if this still errors out: sudo gpg --export --armor 1135D466 | sudo apt-key add -02:14
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zandaaseveas: it finally accepted it :D thanks02:16
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joda__can anyone please tell me where I can find out which options the ubuntu kernel was compiled with?02:16
Seveasjoda__, /boot/config-$YOUR_VERSION02:17
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zandaaseveas: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/5552 < nog steeds kan hij niet vinden02:18
joda__Seveas: thanks, I appreciate it02:18
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Seveaszandaa, sudo apt-get update02:18
zandaaseveas: heb ik ook al geprobeerd02:18
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Seveaszandaa, output -> pastebin :)02:19
dragoonwhats with the whole ubuntu no root thing02:19
zandaaseveas: will do02:19
rob1dragoon, you don't need it02:19
Seveas!tell dragoon about root02:19
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dragoonrob1: i know that02:19
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rob1dragoon, you can always get a root terminal by doing sudo -s02:19
Seveasrob1, eek02:20
Seveassudo -i02:20
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dragoontru02:20
rob1Seveas, does it matter?02:20
Seveasrob1, yes02:20
zandaaseveas: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/555302:20
Seveas-s does not reset $HOME02:20
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zandaarobl, using sudo is more secure02:22
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nifelsekiok.. guys.. madwifi won't work.. i'm using usb.. god.. i'm back to ndiswrapper..02:23
garbagemanhi02:23
chrisx1hey i was installin some packages but i get power outage02:23
chrisx1and i cant seem to get gnome to work02:23
liam01debian doesnt allow root logons either02:23
|Gmp|im going to bed guys, cya all later02:23
garbagemani need some help ...02:23
jeremywhitinggarbageman: what's up?02:24
chrisx1hey i was installin some packages but i get power outage can any1 help i cant get back into gnome! or any desktop02:24
garbagemanhi im iinstalling epsxe (1.60) and i cant run it...02:24
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nifelsekiliam0l: try sudo -s.. it's not root logons but it might just do the trick02:25
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chrisxsorry dc'd02:25
jeremywhitinggarbageman: what does it do when you try02:25
chrisxcan any1 help please?02:25
nifelsekicreates a shell of sudo02:25
liam01oh i was just makin a point nifelseki but thx02:25
liam01=)02:25
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nifelsekiit's like you've logged in as root02:25
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jeremywhitingchrisx1 log in as your normal user and do sudo aptitude or whatever to restart installing those packages02:26
nifelsekieither that or you can enable root logons02:26
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garbageman@ jeremywhiting : it a error ...: /usr/games/epsxe: line 25: lndir: command not found02:26
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chrisxjeremywhiting i cant log int to anydesktop and theres none to be continued they was being installed and power went02:26
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shanonxanyone know where I can get point 2 play?02:26
jeremywhitingchrisx: so log in to the console02:26
jeremywhitingdon't you get any login prompt?02:27
chrisxjeremywhiting im loged in to console now02:27
chrisxusin bitchx02:27
chrisxwhat command shall i run?02:27
jeremywhitingok, so sudo aptitude and continue installing whatever you were installing before02:27
dragoonshanonx: #cedega02:28
chrisxok ill try02:28
liam01sudo apt-get upgrade02:28
liam01chrisx02:28
shanonxdragoon: thanks02:28
garbageman@ jeremywhiting:02:28
garbagemanwhat can i do?02:28
jeremywhitinggarbageman: maybe edit /usr/games/epsxe and see what it's talking about on line 2502:29
chrisxjeremywhiting how do i fix broken packages?02:29
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jeremywhitingor see if you can find lndir somewhere and fix the /usr/games/epsxe script02:29
jeremywhitingseems like /usr/games/epsxe is a bash script, or some kind of script anyway02:29
jeremywhitingshould just be able to edit it02:29
Insidiousis point2play included as part of the cvs cedega now?02:30
garbageman@ jeremywhiting :# Populate the doghouse02:30
garbagemanlndir -silent /usr/share/games/psx-biosbios02:30
chrisxjeremywhiting how do i fix broken packages?02:30
oggahwhat wifi pc-card do you recommend? not only to work in linux, but also. good sensitivity? etc.02:31
oggahwhat manufacturer.02:31
garbagemani dont have the command lndir....02:31
oggahand/or model.02:31
dragoonAtheros are good02:31
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shanonxWhat would cause me to exit GUI and go to terminal when I hit CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE... instead of just going to GUI login?02:31
zandaaoggah: Sitecom is also a good manufacturer02:31
oggahwhat about 3com?02:31
oggahquality?02:32
chrisxgrr ffs02:32
zandaaoggah, never heard of 3com02:32
chrisxhow do i fix broken packages?02:32
dragoonchrisx: try apt-get -f install02:32
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chrisxdragoon that did nothing02:34
Insidiousshanonx, that key combo kills x... and normally the session manager brings it back up with the login window.  sounds like your session manager isn't set up right02:34
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shanonxInsidious: is tehre a way to check to see or fix my session manager?02:34
Insidiousshanonx, (session manager is gdm in ubuntu)02:34
Insidiousshanonx, yeah, check if it's running from terminal02:35
Insidiousshanonx, type "ps -A" and see if it's in the list02:35
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SirKillalothow can I make alsa play a sound file?02:35
dragoonshannonx: ps aux | grep gdm02:35
Insidiousya, that's better :P02:36
shanonxInsidious: yes its actually listed 2 times.02:36
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interozknow how to solve this?02:36
interozALSA lib pcm_direct.c:203:(make_local_socket) connect failed: /tmp/alsa-dmix-8948-1134134785-309856: Permission denied02:36
interozALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:898:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to connect client02:36
interozCan't find a suitable libao driver. (Is device in use?)02:36
jeremywhitinggarbageman: debian has lndir in their xutils package02:36
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jeremywhitingtry installing ubuntu's and see if that fixes the problem02:36
pr4vst3rhello, can anybody help with a wep/orinoco/breezy issue?02:36
Insidiousshanonx, it should be.  check your /etc/gdm/gdm.conf02:37
garbagemanthe package xulils is installed02:37
garbageman...02:37
Insidiousshanonx, it has some settings in there that might fix it02:37
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jeremywhitinghmm, ok02:37
garbagemanhmm ...02:38
garbageman???02:38
garbagemanversion 6.8.2-7702:38
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chrisxhow do i fix broken packages?02:38
chrisxi amma reinstall ubuntu02:39
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chrisxumm02:39
chrisxbbs ppl02:39
nabucodoraiutooooo devo installare i driver per ma mia scheda tv DVB ne canale italiano non c' nessuno che mi aiuti qui c' qualcuno? perfavore02:39
nabucodor:(02:39
garbagemanreinstall packages @chrisx02:39
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chrisxgarbageman i cant how?02:39
chrisxi dont know whats missing02:39
djk_!it02:40
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!02:40
TuntisShould I take Kubuntu or not; I apt-getted kubuntu-desktop and it looked horrible02:40
garbagemanrun synaptik02:40
garbageman@chrisx02:40
nabucodorafter02:40
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dragoonxfce rocks.02:41
dragooni just changed to it then02:41
pr4vst3rhello, can anybody help with a wep/orinoco/breezy issue?02:41
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chrisxbbl02:41
pr4vst3rhello, can anybody help with a wep/orinoco/breezy issue please ... pretty please?02:42
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nabucodoryou help me to install driver for mine dvb the SAA7146?02:43
shanonxInsidious: I really dont know what Im looking for.. I dont see anything that looks very different.02:43
pinucsetsth for seeing a keyboard in my monitor? ive broken finger and i cant write ok...02:43
garbageman:(02:44
chrisxhow do i send a file via scp ?02:44
Ngscp file user@hostname:/remote/path/02:45
chrisxty02:45
pinucsetsth for seeing a keyboard in my monitor? ive broken finger and i cant write ok...02:45
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EXEFirefox won't start up, I've reinstalled and rebooted several times. It returns an error from "chrome://browser/content/broser.xul02:46
EXEDoes anybody know how to fix it?02:47
taga123re install:)02:47
taga123re install:)02:47
garbagemantry as root  sudo girefox02:47
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arkanesEXE: using synaptic, do a "complete removal"02:48
arkanesYou've got a corrupted theme/profile02:48
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EXE"dpkg - warning: while removing firefox, directory '/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components' was not empty so not removed."02:49
EXEFor all the folders, though.02:49
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dseomn!tell me about flash02:51
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TeddHey.02:52
TeddAnybody around? I just need help installing a simple .bin.02:52
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TeddI try to extract but it says that there was an error.02:52
TeddFor any reference, it's Zend Studio.02:52
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pr4vst3rWEP Issue: WEP On - No association, WEP off - associates fine. OS: Ubuntu 5.10, Dell D600, 2Wire [orinoco]  802.11, orinoco_cs 0.15rc3 driver.  Any ideas?02:53
dseomnTedd: could you provide a link to the instructions you're following please?02:53
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Tedddseomn, there were none. I just downloaded the .tar.gz and tried to extract it.02:53
dseomnpr4vst3r: are you using wpa_supplicant, waproamd, or anything else to automatically connect?02:53
TeddIt wouldn't extract- gaveme an error..02:54
TeddShould I try downloading again? It might be a corrupt file.02:54
dseomnwhat's the error?02:54
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sabmannTedd, what error? Tedd, you just said u where installing a .bin not a tar02:54
pr4vst3rno not using either.. should i be doing?02:54
garbageman@ jeremywhiting : can i rewirt the command in ln.... (ln -?)02:54
dseomnpr4vst3r: it doesn't matter, did you do "iwconfig <iface> key secret" before trying to associate?02:55
Teddsabmann, sorry. I was trying to extract a .tar.gz. It gave me an error.02:55
garbagemanin the epsxe.sh02:55
TeddI think I got it now.02:55
TeddIt was just a corrupt file.02:55
sabmannok02:55
TeddDownloading again. Thanks.02:55
[o] rkinplz help, I'm given a registrtation ID for modem unit.  it tells me to go to linuxant but doesn't specirfy where I can enter my registration ID to get the license key02:55
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pinucsetsth for seeing a keyboard in my monitor? ive broken finger and i cant write ok...02:56
pr4vst3rdseomn; yep WEP key is assigned correctly , can see it in iwconfig output02:56
kbrookshow do i add a user?02:56
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NikusanI can't open a disc drive using the eject button on the drive, I have to choose eject from the disc icon's context menu... how do I fix this?02:57
kbrooksnm02:57
dseomnpr4vst3r: does wep work with any other computers?02:57
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chrisxtyHey if i reinstsaall 5.04 how easy is it to upgrade to 5.10 through net?02:58
pr4vst3rdseomn: yes .. works with windows laptops fine ...02:58
garbagemansystem... user and gruops @kbrooks02:58
dseomnchrisx: it's easy, but it will take some time02:58
kbrooksnm02:58
liam01is it in hexidecimal mode pr4vst3r02:58
garbagemannm?02:58
kbrooksnever mind02:58
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kbrooksi figureed it out02:59
garbagemanthx02:59
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chrisxcouase atm dseomn i cant find my disk for 5.1002:59
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[o] rkinI have four extra!02:59
liam01pr4vst3r, choose hexidecimal mode in the options... because your key is probably using that02:59
pr4vst3rliam01: yep it sure is even assigned it an index of [1]  and then used iwconfig eth1 key [1] , then iwconfig eth1 key on and various other combinations02:59
[o] rkinsure they took 3 weeks to get here, but they arrived triumphantly02:59
dseomnchrisx: if you don't mind waiting while the stuff downloads and installs, there's not problem with installing 5.04 and upgrading03:00
garbagemanterminal ... adduser03:00
liam01r u in 5.04 or 5.10?03:00
dpuppcan someone telll me if this is correct?  dmesg | grep -i "SCSI device"03:00
mrtwisterhello, i installed breezy-server. need kernel source03:00
mrtwisteruname -a03:00
mrtwisterLinux sawa.com 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux03:00
chrisxdseomn i have an average for 300kb/s downloads03:00
mrtwisterwhen i installing kernel-source, i do not have such version03:00
mrtwisterwhat i shall do?03:00
shanonxis there a certain setting in my gdm.conf that I should be looking for that causes my CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE not to work properly?03:00
dseomnchrisx: expect an hour or so03:01
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[o] rkinplz help, I'm given a registrtation ID for modem unit.  it tells me to go to linuxant but doesn't specirfy where I can enter my registration ID to get the license key can anyone direct me to the right place?03:01
dseomnshanonx: it's in /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:01
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dpuppcan someone telll me if this is properly formed? i cant seem to get any details back:  dmesg | grep -i "SCSI device"03:01
pr4vst3rliam01: 5.1003:02
dseomndpupp: try dmesg | grep -i scsi03:02
liam01pr4vst3r, hmmm... not sure then, because in 5.04 i had to put " 0x" before the key03:02
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liam01pr4vst3r, it should "just work" in 5.1003:03
dpuppdsomn, nothing.03:03
dseomndpupp: what are you looking for?03:03
pr4vst3rliam01: I Wish!03:03
floppyearshi03:03
dpuppim trying to find out what device is my USB memory stick so i can mount it...03:03
floppyearshow can I use tar03:03
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floppyearsto move my linux setup from /hdb2 to /hda703:03
kbrooksfloppyears, to do what? um03:03
liam01pr4vst3r, u sure youre using the right key from the router settings?  O.o03:04
Lewixdoes someone have a toshiba M45-16903:04
dpuppi was following a tutorial but im stuck at the part where it says to use dmesg | grep -i "SCSI device" ...that returns nothing at all.03:04
kbrooksthat really isnt a suitable usage of tar03:04
dseomndpupp: try "dmesg | tail -f 1" and then take the stick out and put it back in03:04
floppyearskbrooks: I want to move my linux setup from one partition to another by using tar03:04
pr4vst3rliam01: yep triple checked it .. even pasted it to file and copied it in to prevent any typos03:04
floppyearstar -cf /mnt/hdb7/ | tar -xp03:04
y0m0mmapr4vst3r .. are yu sure you got the computer turned on ? .. heh!03:04
floppyearsbut it's not working :(03:04
kbrooksfloppyears, after you have "moved" the linux setup, you still have a lot to do03:04
dpuppdseomn, now the terminal is just at >03:05
floppyearskbrooks: I have used tar  before, but can't remember the specific command03:05
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kbrooksfloppyears, add -, and add - to the end of the pipe03:05
liam01well pr4vst3r afraid i have no idea -- havent head this b403:05
gimmulf_ !crontab03:05
ubotugimmulf_: I don't know, could you explain it?03:05
liam01hear*03:05
pr4vst3rliam01: thanks anyway03:05
gimmulf_how do i add something to crontab?03:05
[o] rkindoes ubuntu have porn? they have to have something for me to look at while I'm waiting for it03:05
dseomndpupp: oh sorry, I mean "dmesg | tail -f -n 1"03:05
garbagemancu03:06
y0m0mmawhat other files are there WEP related ../etc/networking/interfaces ..what else??? ..anyone ?03:06
garbagemanhave a lot of fun!!! :)03:06
dseomn[o] rkin: please keep it appropriate here03:06
[o] rkin IE waiting for it to load03:06
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[o] rkinbecaus eit is being incredibly slow03:06
dpuppdseomn, i get: [4300011.292000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known. tail: standard input: file truncated tail: standard input: cannot seek to offset 0: Illegal seek03:06
chrisxffs why cant i find my 5.10 disk!03:07
gimmulf_anyone know how to add an schedule to crontab?03:07
nifelsekihow do install ndiswrapper..?03:07
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floppyearskbrooks: thanks it's working now :)03:07
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Johnsonhow can i get into ubuntu verstion of task manager?03:08
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pr4vst3rps ax03:08
shanonxdseomn: I checked out my xorg.conf and its the same as right after a clean install.03:08
dpuppdseomn , oh wait, now  i can run dmesg | grep -i "SCSI device" and it brings back information...... what happened? what was that command for?03:09
idioti have a 1.6ghz comp but when I cat /proc/cpuinfo it says 600mhz and its not the bios setting its a program capping it03:09
idioti forget the program name its daemon or something03:09
idiothow can i remove it and get back my normal speed.03:09
y0m0mmaJohnson  type: top03:09
Johnsoncan someone help me plz03:09
Johnsonk03:09
SirKillalotcan I get panels like that in gnome? http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gaim204fq.jpg03:09
dseomndpupp: it was to find new dmesg output, but it looks like you got it anyway, grep and tail are just filters (in this case)03:09
chrisxdseomn if i install 5.04 can u help me upgrade please?03:10
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dseomnshanonx: ok, I'm clueless then, sry03:10
Johnsonbut how do i stop a program in it?03:10
dseomnchrisx: it's on the website, but if you have questions, you can ask here03:10
dpuppthanks dseomn!03:10
shanonxdseomn: ok thanks for your help though.03:10
chrisxok03:10
y0m0mmaman top .. i think its 'K'03:10
chrisxffs hate reinstall amma loose my stuff:@03:10
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chrisxcya03:11
dseomnchrisx: wait03:11
Johnsonhow do i get into teh GUI verrsion of top?03:11
chrisxfuckin stupid ubuntu03:11
spdlhi ganag03:11
chrisxyer?03:11
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spdlgang i mean hehe03:11
dseomnchrisx: you can use a different partition for /home and you won't lose your stuff03:11
chrisxumm03:11
chrisxhow do i do that?03:11
chrisxhow can i delete that partion after im on then?03:11
pr4vst3rAny wireless experts out there?03:11
Johnsoncan some one help me plz03:12
dseomnchrisx: in the partition editor in the installer, chose manual and make one for swap, one for /, and one for /home03:12
kbrooksfloppyears,03:12
kbrooksfloppyears, ping03:12
chrisxnm its k ill loose my stuff03:12
kbrooksfloppyears, there?03:12
kbrooksfloppyears, btw03:12
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chrisxjust a reason to bash my pc more =] 03:12
dseomnok03:12
kbrooksfloppyears, explicit is better than implicit03:12
chrisxCya... if i dont return then im back on windows..03:13
Johnsonhow do i close a program thoguth taski manager on ubuntu03:13
floppyearskbrooks: what ?03:13
Tuntisinstalling ubuntu ->>03:13
kbrooksfloppyears, tar doesnt guess03:13
gimmulf_Not anyone know how do add something to crontab.hourly?03:13
dpuppanyone know what this means when trying to mount a USB memorystick?: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdh03:13
dseomnJohnson: Applications -> System Tools -> System Monitor03:13
floppyearskbrooks: what do you mean?03:13
pr4vst3rJohnson: on breezy: Applications -> System Tools -> System Monitor03:13
Johnsonthanks03:13
kbrooksfloppyears, explicit is better than implicit -- tar does not guess if you want to compress to stdin or not. without a "file" that can be written to, or read from, error03:14
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dseomndpupp: you need to use /dev/sdh1 or /dev/sdh5 or something03:14
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floppyearskbrooks: yes, that's what I'm using. I have mounted them under two different directies within /mnt03:14
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dpuppdseomn, is there a way i can find out for certain which is it?03:15
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dseomndpupp: are you using udev? (if you don't know what that is, then yes)03:15
dpuppno idea dseomn.03:16
mherweghi everyone. I'd like to install java & flash for firefox on an amd64 system. do I need a 32bit firefox for that ?03:16
AmaranthYes.03:16
dseomndpupp: ok, use shell completion, only one partition (sdh*) should exist03:16
thoronSo is Ubuntu AMD64 port in better shape than Debian AMD64?03:17
Amaranththoron: *shrug*03:17
dpuppdseomn *huh?* im sorry i dont seem to understand your request. Type "shell completion" ......... or..... ummm..03:17
Amaranthdoes debian have an official amd64 port yet?03:17
thoronno03:17
Ngit's still on alioth03:17
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Ngthoron: the ubuntu amd64 port is fine if you don't care about windows codecs or stupid browser plugins :)03:18
dseomndpupp: type "echo /dev/sdh<tab><tab>"03:18
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thoronNg: I don't. I want to run bugzilla, apache, svn, gnu arch and so on as a server.03:18
dpuppsdh, sdh103:18
YukiIkyutaNg, though a 32-bit chroot fixes these problems.03:18
dpupp:) *takes note*03:18
dseomndpupp: then it's sdh1 ;>03:18
NgYukiIkyuta: definitely, but it's hardly a pleasant solution ;)03:19
NgYukiIkyuta: I gave up on the 64bit/32bit combo after a few months ;)03:19
YukiIkyutaNg, when set up, you don't even really notice it. ^^03:19
YukiIkyutaReally?03:19
Ngthoron: that'll be fine03:19
dpuppyatta! it worked!03:19
YukiIkyutaI'm using it now, and it seems to be all OK.03:19
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dpuppthanks dseomn! *saves a log of conversation for future refference.*03:20
dseomnno prob03:20
NgYukiIkyuta: there wasn't anything really wrong with it, I just came to the conclusion I wasn't really gaining anything over just running a 32bit install ;)03:20
NgYukiIkyuta: I'm getting lazy in my old age ;)03:20
YukiIkyutaAh :)03:20
YukiIkyutaI'm using the 64-bits in programming and such (admittedly not much, but still here and there).03:20
NgI'd prefer to be taking full advantage of my hardware and will do when java/flash/codecs catch up :)03:21
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YukiIkyuta^^03:22
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dseomnhas anybody gotten sound with flash to work on dapper?03:22
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dseomn*flash with sound03:22
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mherwegNg: how did u install a 32bit firefox on a 64bit system ?03:23
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bSONdoes ubuntu havebuilt-in  mp3 support?03:23
ph3rno03:23
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Ngmherweg: I used a 32bit chroot, but you could probably just download a firefox 1.5 tarball and install it anyway, you'd need to check the ia32-libs for stdc++503:24
bixexit03:24
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dseomnbSON: you just have to install gstreamer0.8-mad03:24
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bSONon which repository?03:24
dseomnmultiverse or universe, I don't remember03:25
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YukiIkyutamherweg, consider; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot03:25
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mherwegtahnks03:25
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maxx_730Hi all03:29
YukiIkyutaHiya.03:30
maxx_730I've got a problem03:30
maxx_730My sound works in Ubuntu (and practically every Linux distribution) but not in Kubuntu or Xubuntu03:30
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maxx_730Anyone got an idea?03:30
docta_vare you using the same driver?03:30
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wdhmaxx_730, i think you should also try #kubuntu then.. there is a lot more kde specific help available there :)03:31
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maxx_730wdh: I tried #kubuntu first, but there was practically noone there03:31
maxx_730docta_v: How do i see? lsmod?03:32
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HymnToLifehi all :)03:32
I_Eat_PlasticDoes synaptic filter 64bit packages automaticly for 64bit users?03:32
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docta_vmaxx_730, yea lsmod03:33
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learnfromscratchwhen i do make xconfig .. i am prompted to install QT .. can some one tell me  what is the exact package name of QT .. so that i can install .. apt-cache and apt-file report too many number of packages for me to pick up..03:34
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supaikuI'm having a wierd problem with firefox and the internet. For the most part the internet works fine and I can access some pages just fine but I can't access some for no apparent reason (google for instance, while I can access ocforums.com and newgg) Anyone have any ideas?03:35
supaikuI also can't login to gaim03:35
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mrtwisterhello. how to get sources for breezy. strange thing, i do not have up2date sources in repository!03:37
mrtwisterYou do not appear to have the sources for the 2.6.12-9-386 kernel installed.03:37
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doogluslearnfromscratch: you can make gconfig for the GTK version or menuconfig for a console version.  no point installing Qt just for that.03:37
HymnToLifemrtwister > than you can install them through synaptic03:37
cashi, evolution keeps on crashing on some spam emails i receive. Are there some remedies to delete mails (or my h03:37
caswhole trash) manually?03:38
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bshumate    supaiku:  sounds like your Internet provider may be having DNS issues.  if you know how to add a DNS server manually to your network setup, you may want to try adding 4.2.2.2 as a DNS server entry and see if all sites work again03:38
mrtwisterHymnToLife: no, i have server install and not have correct kernel-source03:39
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supaikuI'll try it, thanks03:39
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=== xester good morning
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michaelnewbie here ...i need help installing my wlan03:39
HymnToLifemrtwister > if you have only the command line, apt-get hould do the trick03:39
jeenyusnoboarderhey i have a quick question, how do i turn the synaptic package manager back to basic mode? lol03:40
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mrtwisterHymnToLife: again - no corrrect version in repository03:40
dooglusmrtwister: install package "linux-source-2.6.12" for the kernel source03:40
HymnToLifemrtwister > which kernel version do you run ?03:40
[o] rkinso anybody here know anything about finding the location of the linuxantpage that I enter the registration id I was given to get my license key (FREE)03:40
[o] rkin?03:40
dooglusmrtwister: the kernel is called 'linux', not 'kernel' remember...03:40
mrtwisterdooglus: thank you but why not kernel-source-2.6.12, as usual ?03:40
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YukiIkyuta[o] rkin, what are you talking about? o_O03:41
mrtwisterdooglus: working, thank you!03:41
jeenyusnoboarderrofl theres no way is there03:41
HymnToLife[o] rkin > http://www.inuxant.org probably03:41
dooglusmrtwister: I think they stopped calling the kernel 'kernel' and started calling it 'linux' some time around breezy's release.  not sure, maybe earlier.03:41
jeenyusnoboarderto switch it back to basic mode03:41
digitsHello, I have a slight problem with Evolution. I can't get it to show my Inbox, it's IMAP (and it works with squirrelmail, thunderbird and Opera mail)... any clues?03:41
YukiIkyutajeenyusnoboarder, what do you mean, `basic'?03:41
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jeenyusnoboarderwell i went and hit advanced mode by accadent03:41
[o] rkinI knoiw thats wher i went to get th linux driver for my conexant modem03:41
[o] rkinand the deb was installing fine03:42
jeenyusnoboarderi wana put it back into the origional mode03:42
jeenyusnoboarderand i dont see anthing03:42
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[o] rkinand then it says i have to go back to the sitye and use a registration id it gives me to obtain a license key03:42
[o] rkinit directed me to linuxant.org but I don't know where to go from there03:43
YukiIkyutaRegistration ID for a .deb?03:43
YukiIkyutaDoesn't sound right.03:43
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HymnToLifeif I remember well, linuant drivers are not free03:43
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[o] rkinis there a way for m e to find out what port my modem is on03:43
[o] rkinso I can just manually install it or something\03:44
HymnToLifetry wvdialconf03:44
[o] rkinit wont let me continue unless03:44
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jeenyusnoboarderguess no then? too bad03:44
dooglusjeenyusnoboarder: how did you switch from basic to advanced in synaptic?03:44
[o] rkinII get this key03:44
jeenyusnoboarderoh03:44
jeenyusnoboarderhaha03:44
jeenyusnoboarderi i clicked a button03:44
jeenyusnoboarderthat said "advanced mode"03:44
jeenyusnoboarderand it changed the interface03:44
dooglusjeenyusnoboarder: I'm not sure synaptic has an advanced mode. I don't see anything like that.03:44
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supaikubshumate, that seems to have worked (perhaps in conjunction with removing 192.168.0.1 as a DNS) - thanks:D03:45
jeenyusnoboarderyours may allready be in the mode im in03:45
learnfromscratchi am using ntfs in windows and reading those from linux.. will this lead to any problems ?? will my hard disk get damaged??03:45
jeenyusnoboarderis there a defaults button anywhere around here?03:45
jeenyusnoboarderor can i uninstall this and reinstall it03:45
jeenyusnoboarderi want the origional interface i had03:45
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YukiIkyutalearnfromscratch, it'll be fine! ^_^03:45
Siph0n!wine03:45
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dooglusjeenyusnoboarder: how has the interface changed?  what's different now?03:45
jeenyusnoboarderwell before it was 2 frames03:45
HymnToLifejeenyusnoboarder > I can't find any "Advanced" button in synaptic :/03:46
jeenyusnoboarderand i could select the packages to install03:46
jeenyusnoboarderand hit apply03:46
doogluslearnfromscratch: reading ntfs in linux is perfectly safe.  writing it is more scary.03:46
jeenyusnoboardernow its 3 panes03:46
dooglusjeenyusnoboarder: oh.03:46
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[o] rkinI demands full access to my modem at full speeds for no cost I already payed for it, where do I enter this registration ID?03:46
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jeenyusnoboarderand when i select the package it gives me all the libs and crapola03:46
n00blarmorning everyone, quick question...is there a gui based program like minicom? I mainly use minicom to configure my routers and switches and I was wondering if there's a gui based application like minicom.03:46
HymnToLifelearnfromscratch > no it won't03:46
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YukiIkyuta[o] rkin, demanding won't help you - we're not asking for the money here.03:46
HymnToLifebut you'd better not try to write on it03:46
[o] rkinI'm not demanding anything of you03:47
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YukiIkyuta[o] rkin, well, you said `I demands'.. now, let's see. What type of modem have you got?03:47
jeenyusnoboarderyes ive looked allll around and i dont see anything to switch it back03:47
jeenyusnoboarderim not even sure if its possible03:47
[o] rkinI just don't understand why I can't get this linux to detect my modem, and why I have to put in this stupid key to continue full installation of the drivers03:48
[o] rkinconexant03:48
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Zukerohi03:48
Zukerohi have a problem restoring grub03:48
Zukero-h03:48
jeenyusnoboarderhey03:48
[o] rkini already went And downloaded the correct driver, and began to install it but now it's asking me for a key03:48
jeenyusnoboarderyou wana go into console03:48
jeenyusnoboarderzukero03:49
Zukeronope03:49
Zukeroi am in the rescue console03:49
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jeenyusnoboarderok03:49
jeenyusnoboardertype03:49
Zukerobut03:49
jeenyusnoboarder"grub"03:49
Dr_Willisoh?03:49
YukiIkyuta[o] rkin, where did you retrieve the driver?03:49
[o] rkinlinuxant.org03:49
jeenyusnoboarderbut what03:49
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Zukero /bin/sh: grub: command not found03:49
jeenyusnoboarderthen03:49
jeenyusnoboardergrub-install /dev/hda03:49
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Zukeroidem03:50
Zukeroin fact03:50
Zukeroi didn't reinstalled windwos03:50
Zukeroi installed another bootloader03:50
jeenyusnoboarderwhat one03:50
jeenyusnoboarderlilo?03:50
ZukeroVCom system commander03:50
YukiIkyuta[o] rkin, from what I can see, it's Conexant's choice to make you pay for it. I'll search for a replacement.03:50
Zukeroa graphical one03:50
jeenyusnoboarderlol k03:50
jeenyusnoboarderthen you wana format the mbr03:51
Zukeroand i think it borked my partition table03:51
Zukerowell03:51
Zukeronot really03:51
Zukeroi want to keep system commander03:51
Zukeroreinstall grub03:51
[o] rkinthere's no way I can get around it? there aren't any other drivers that will do just as welll03:51
jeenyusnoboardercant help you then, im not familliar with it03:51
Zukeroand then reboot03:51
HymnToLifeYukiIkyuta > not exactly03:51
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Zukerowell03:51
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HymnToLifethe ompany that makes the linu drivers (linuxant) is totally different from Conexant03:52
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Zukeroif i get rid of system commander, it's not that much of a problem03:52
Zukeroformat the mbr is allright03:52
Zukeroi don't know how03:52
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YukiIkyuta[o] rkin, unfortunately, there's no speed-unlimited driver, so I see.03:52
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YukiIkyuta[o] rkin, that's a limitation of an internal WinModem.03:53
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Zukeroand rescue mode can't mount my partitions03:53
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YukiIkyuta[o] rkin, see here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WinModemConexantHSF03:53
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Zukerojeenyusnoboarder03:55
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jeenyusnoboarderyea03:56
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Zukerohow can I formatr the mbr03:56
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jeenyusnoboarderwell03:56
jeenyusnoboardergrub isntall will auto do it03:56
Zukerohmm03:57
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jeenyusnoboarderi would drop the gui thingy you got now03:57
jeenyusnoboarderand just use grub03:57
Zukeroyeah03:57
Zukerobut03:57
Zukerogrub-install isn't found in my rescue shell03:57
Zukeroand i can't mount my linux partition in the "enter in rescue mode" page03:58
jeenyusnoboarderwell03:59
HymnToLifeZukero > try booting from a live CD03:59
jeenyusnoboarderyea boot off live cd03:59
Zukerok03:59
Zukerothen ?03:59
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jeenyusnoboardergrub-install /dev/hda04:01
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HymnToLifeZukero > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RecoveringGrub04:02
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iustini`ve searched many pages on the internet but i couldn`t find what`s the command for mounting my partitions so all the users can see them ... plz a help!!04:03
iustinbetter would be automounting04:03
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iustinfor all users04:03
HymnToLifewhich filetype it is ?04:03
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iustinntfs04:03
HymnToLifefilesystem*04:03
iustini want only read04:03
HymnToLifeok04:03
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Eghie_WorkWoei, we have made a samba-ldap PDC setup script :D04:04
HymnToLiferemember that you can't write on a ntfs partition04:04
iustini know...04:04
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iustinalthough there is a project04:04
HymnToLifeis it in your /etc/fstab file ?04:04
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iustinyes04:04
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iustini type : sudo mount -l04:04
Shinjanhi folks04:04
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iustinor sudo gedit fstab04:05
HymnToLifethen you certainly have "defaults" a mount options, right ?04:05
HymnToLifeas*04:05
iustinyes04:05
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iustini see some default04:05
HymnToLifeok04:05
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iustinlet me type again04:05
HymnToLifeso replace defaults with this :04:05
Dr_AcemasterI can't get my wireless connection to get an ip, how do I connect?04:05
HymnToLifero,user,auto,gid=100,nls=utf8,umask=00204:05
Amaranth!wireless04:06
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards04:06
Amaranthhrm04:06
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floppyearshi04:06
Dr_AcemasterAmaranth I had my wireless card working04:06
Dr_Acemasterbut now I can't get it to connect04:07
floppyearsI had to reinstalled windows in my dual boot system04:07
floppyearshow do I rerun grub so that it occupies the mbr again ?04:07
HymnToLifeand GRUB disappeared04:07
tristanDr_Acemaster : do you have DHCP enabled and the connnection activated?04:07
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Amaranth!grub04:07
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting04:07
Dr_Acemastertristan how do I activate the connection?04:07
hmpedersenHi..04:07
floppyearsAmaranth: thanks04:07
HymnToLifelmao04:07
HymnToLifeTHAT is a useful bot04:08
tristanDr_Acemaster : system - administration - network04:08
iustinwhat does this mean?: /dev/hda3       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       104:08
iustinin fstab04:08
AmaranthHymnToLife: You can usually just guess at something and someone has something in there for it.04:08
Dr_Acemastertristan sorry brain fart there for a sec, yet it is active04:08
hmpedersenCan ne1 help me with my wlan card? Just spent 2 hours setting it up, and suddenly its gone from the list of adaptors..04:08
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HymnToLifeiustin > this is your root partition04:09
HymnToLifebetter not touch it04:09
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tristanDr_Acemaster : did you enable DHCP. Do you have a WEP encryption on your network and if so did you give the WEP key....?04:09
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iustinaha :)) thanx04:09
Dr_Acemastertristan yes DHCP is enabled, and I did enter the WEP key04:09
iustinHymnToLife, you told me to replace all that is in fstab with : ro,user,auto,gid=100,nls=utf8,umask=002 ??04:10
HymnToLifeno, nooo04:10
iustin:)04:10
HymnToLifeonly the "defaults" thing for the ntfs partition you want to mount04:10
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tristanDr_acemaster : then I don't know. Is your wireless connection currently the default internet connection?04:10
iustinaah i see... at the end of the syntax04:11
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iustinok... i`ll give u an example of what i`ve understood04:11
HymnToLifeiustin > the line for your ntfs partition must look like this04:12
HymnToLife/dev/hda1/media/windowsntfsro,user,auto,gid=100,nls=utf8,umask=0020004:12
iustin/dev/hda1       /media/windows ro,user,auto,gid=100,nls=utf8,umask=00204:12
Dr_Acemastertristan I have the other two connections disabled04:12
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iustin:)04:12
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iustinok04:12
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richiehello04:13
iustini`ll do exactly... and thanks so much!!!04:13
iustinreally!04:13
tristanDr_Acemaster : then sorry I cannot help you. If you are sure of your wep Key and declred it as hexadecimal, I cannot help04:13
richiei have a problem with the free cds04:13
HymnToLifeyou're welcome :)04:13
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rick11ey04:13
Dr_Acemastertristan ok thanks for the effort :)04:13
richieive must bill 100 dollar04:13
rick11robert?04:13
richiefor the cds04:13
rick11Robert?04:13
richiethis is must high04:13
rick11Richard?04:13
richieja04:13
rick11oke04:13
richiedat ben ik04:13
Dr_Willis:)04:13
rick11ok04:13
HymnToLife100 bucks for free ds04:13
richiejes04:13
HymnToLifethat's a bit too much :p04:13
richiethat must i pay04:13
rick11Me to04:14
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Zukerojeenyusnoboarder : grub-install /dev/hdc gives me "Could not find device for /boot : Not found or not a block device"04:14
hmpedersenTristan, think you could help me? Got serious problems with my wlan card..04:14
richieis there a admin here?04:15
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HymnToLifeZukero > exactly the same error I got...04:15
g47ofirefox 1 .604:15
g47o:s04:15
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tristanhmpedersen : well I don't know if I can because I had absolutely no trouble with mine....04:15
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ZukeroHymnToLife : did you solve it ?04:15
richiewe can me help04:15
Dr_Acemastertristan hehe look what I got you into04:15
HymnToLifenope04:15
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tristanDr_Acemaster : ^^'04:16
HymnToLifeI worked it around by reinstalling ubuntu04:16
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Red-Soxdoes grub work well?04:16
Zukeroarg04:16
Zukerowell04:16
iustinHymnToLife, when i save and close fstab and restart... everything would be ok?04:16
Zukeroi was about to do so sooner or later04:16
HymnToLifethe might be another way  :p04:16
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hmpedersenUbuntu accepted my windows drivers for the card,and allowed to to set it up.. then deleted driver with no reason and refuses to reinstall them :(04:16
HymnToLifeiustin > no need to restart04:16
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Zukerook04:16
HymnToLifeiustin > just run "sudo mount -a"04:16
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tristanhmpedersen : Ubuntu did not have the correct drivers at the beginning? I didn't had to install any driver for mine04:17
HymnToLifeZukero > ask it on the forums, the might be a more clever way to do it04:17
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Teutoniushola a todos04:18
Teutoniusestoy intentando poner cedega en mi ubuntu04:18
Zukeroyeah... i think i'll reinstall it04:18
Teutoniusalguien lo a echo o sabe d q va el tema?04:18
rambo3no habla espanjol04:18
HymnToLifeTecnoVM64 > english, please04:18
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Zukeroi'll just have to backup under windows instead of ubuntu :)04:18
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hmpedersenNo.. I had to install the windows drivers and the setup utility..04:18
Teutoniussorry04:18
tristanTeutonius : tienes que ir en el espanol canal : #ubuntu-es04:18
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tristanTeutonius : or speak english04:19
TCTCHIs it possible to see in Nautilus : how many MB that a Folder has??04:19
frogzooright click -> properties04:20
HymnToLifefrogzoo > that doesn't work04:20
XiCillinyes it does04:20
XiCillini just did it04:20
XiCillinlook at 'contents'04:20
HymnToLifeI was sue it didn't :/ I never use it anyway :p04:20
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TCTCHI know frogzoo: that works...but is it possible to see the mb's near the folder name?04:21
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TCTCHlike OSX does04:21
cliebow_anyone have a clue why usbsticks now mount read-only??04:21
mawehi all. having a problem with hoary, nautilus and a dual head setup (non xinerama)04:22
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mawenautilus crashes when icons get dragged from left to right screen04:22
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mawehas anyone seen this problem before and knows a solution?04:22
XiCillinnever seen that before04:22
mawerunning gnome 2.12.104:22
iustinHymnToLife, :(( when i click on hda5 ... it tells me like everywhen else that i do not have the rights to acces it !04:22
rambo3and hardware can handle it04:23
iustin*everytime04:23
HymnToLifewhat does the line in your fstab look like ?04:23
sambagirlis there any way to have vlc loop infinitely?04:23
XiCilliniustin its a windows drive sin't it?04:23
iustinone single hard04:23
iustin2 ntfs partitions04:24
iustinand ubuntu04:24
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iustini would paste here the line04:24
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iustindev/hda3       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       104:24
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iustin/dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    ro,user,auto,gid=100,nls=utf8,umask=002 0 004:24
iustin/dev/hda5       /media/hda5     ntfs    ro,user,auto,gid=100,nls=utf8,umask=002 0 004:24
iustin/dev/hda6       none            swap    sw              0       004:24
iustin/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       004:24
iustinjust like that04:25
iustini work to see them for almost a week04:25
iustin(sorry for my english)04:25
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iustinXiCillin, the lines are good?04:26
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HymnToLifeiustin > you gotta put Tabs between the parameters, not spaces04:27
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iustinbetween 002 <tab> 0 <tab> 0 ??04:28
frogzooiustin: lose the 'nls=utf8' & then try 'sudo mount -a'04:28
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HymnToLifeiustin > yes04:28
HymnToLifeno spaces,just tabs04:28
iustinand to remove utf8?04:28
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HymnToLifebetween everything04:29
dookiehey i'm new to linux and about to start messing with different video configurations. xorg will probably crap out on me a few times, what's the commands to backup the configuration file and and roll back to it?04:29
iustinbetween ro, user, auto ??04:29
ZukeroHymnToLife : managed to do it04:29
Zukeroentered Grub console in live session04:29
HymnToLife /dev/hda5       /media/hda5<tab>ntfs<tab>ro,user,auto,gid=100,nls=utf8,umask=002<tab>0<tab>004:29
Zukerocalled root (hd0,5)04:29
frogzoodookie: cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.bck04:29
Zukerothen setup (hd0)04:29
Zukeroreboot04:29
Zukeroand everything's ok04:29
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HymnToLife(also a tab between /dev/hda5 and /media/hda5)04:31
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frogzooiustin: also - you might like to add 'uid=100'  - also, are you sure it's = 100, 1000 is more typical04:31
dookiethat's how you back it up, cool thanks, now when i try to reboot and all i can do is use the command line how do i get back to normal, i usually do a clean install04:31
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HymnToLifefrogzoo > 1000 is the group id04:32
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SantaD1does anyone own and run ubuntu on an inspiron 6000?04:33
HymnToLifedookie > cp /etc/X11/xorg.bak /et/X11/xorg.conf04:33
frogzooiustin: what does 'id' return for you?04:33
KyralSantaD1: I'm on an Inspirion 1100 if that helps any04:33
SantaD1hmmm, I dont know how different they are.04:33
SantaD1Im wondering how good the screen is04:33
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iustinwhat should i type04:34
SantaD1because Im debating buying a dell or a computer with brightview screen04:34
iustinto retrieve my id04:34
iustin?04:34
frogzooiustin: just 'id'04:34
iustinok04:34
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rambo3who would buy a dell?04:34
SantaD1people.04:34
iustin  /dev/hda5       /media/hda5<tab>ntfs<tab>ro,user,auto,gid=100,nls=utf8,umask=002<tab>0<tab>004:34
SantaD1why wouldn't they?04:34
frogzoorambo3: stuff happens04:34
iustinsorry not that04:34
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Deterministdookie, startx would launch GDM and gnome with it, if X has been configured correctly.04:34
iustinuid=1000(iustin) gid=1000(iustin) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(lpadmin),105(scanner),106(admin),1000(iustin)04:34
iustinyes ... my uid=100004:35
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iustinand gid=1000 also04:35
frogzoo  /dev/hda5       /media/hda5<tab>ntfs<tab>ro,user,auto,uid=1000,gid=1000,nls=utf8,umask=002<tab>0<tab>004:35
HymnToLifemy uid is 1000 too but the line I told you works fine04:35
dj_smilee|workNg you about fella?04:35
Dr_Acehow does one go about changing wireless connections, ie to a different network04:35
Dr_Ace?04:35
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dookielol thanks hymntolife i see it now, gotta get out of copy/paste mode and start learning it all04:35
iustini found that right clicking the icon with the mount point i can select which one to read the partition04:36
iustinlike doing that with click , not command line04:36
frogzooDr_Ace you should be able to go back into the network app & reconfigure04:36
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iustincan i be root for a whole session04:36
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iustinto work that?04:37
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rambo3su -s04:37
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Kyralrambo3: I think sudo -i is better04:37
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frogzooiustin: shouldn't be necessary just to read your files04:37
iustinbut just for this session, right?04:37
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iustinok...04:37
frogzooiustin: now try 'sudo mount -a'      and then    ' mount'04:38
dookieone more thing, when installing a new video card for windows it was a good idea to go through device manager and disable my onboard video, do i need to do something similar with linux? or can i just follow a howto driver install04:38
rambo3yeah just dont forget exit when you are done04:38
Siph0nneone have a problem in VLC that when u exit it, the sound still plays? :)04:39
Kyralor close the term04:39
KyralSiph0n: for maybe a second or two lol04:39
frogzoodookie: you might run into difficulties if the onboard vid gets detected by default - either disable in bios or disable its driver04:39
HymnToLifedookie > better reconfigure xorg BFORE switching your card04:39
iustinit looks like that , after mount :04:39
iustin/dev/hda3 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)04:39
iustinproc on /proc type proc (rw)04:39
iustinsysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)04:39
iustindevpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)04:39
iustintmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)04:39
Siph0nKyral, no mine plays for ever.... ne idea why? :)04:39
iustinusbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)04:39
iustintmpfs on /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)04:39
HymnToLifeif your xorg.conf says 'ati' and your card is nvidia, it just won't start04:39
KyralSiph0n: nope04:39
iustin/dev/hda1 on /media/hda1 type ntfs (rw)04:39
iustin/dev/hda5 on /media/hda5 type ntfs (rw)04:39
iustintmpfs on /dev type tmpfs (rw,size=10M,mode=0755)04:39
frogzooiustin: pls learn to use pastebin - people share this channel04:40
iustinok ... sorry04:40
iustinit won`t happen again :(04:40
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frogzooiustin: it looks like your filesystems are mounted - but rw for some strange reason04:40
HymnToLifeI got it04:40
frogzooiustin: that's 'ro' as in R O - not R zero04:41
HymnToLifeiustin > run "sudo -a -o remount" when you have the corret fstab04:41
Roeyhi, anyonere here using Ubuntu on a Dell Poweredge system? I have an 1850 here on which I'd like to use Xen, Vserver, XFS and LVM.  i need to be able to recompile the kernel in order to add support for the SCSI/RAID controller.04:42
dickmcI am trying to install XMMS but after installing gcc I get an error that gcc cannot create executables  What do I do now??04:42
dookieok i'll go throught the xorg before switching cards, how do i disable the onboard driver?04:42
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frogzoodookie: either in the bios, or change driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:43
HymnToLifedickmc > sudo apt-get install build-essential04:43
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dickmcThanks04:43
dookieok thanks04:43
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SantaD1699 for a dell inspiron 6000 Pentium M, 512 ram, cdrw/dvdr, 6 cell battery04:43
SantaD1hmmm04:43
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HymnToLifedookie > or you have a wizard for this, run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:43
SantaD1and reports say it runs ubuntu perfectly04:43
HymnToLifetoo late :p04:44
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rambo3did anyone install seti@home04:46
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iustinsudo -a -o remount ... doesn`t woek04:46
iustin*work , maybe it is not a correct line04:47
rambo3you need umount mount04:47
rambo3or there is some app to install for remount04:47
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SantaD1so no dell fans eh? hehe04:47
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slushpupieiustin: you want sudo mount -o remount04:47
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sabmanniustin, use sudo umount -a that will unmount all, and sudo mount -a that will mount all, I've never heard of 'remount'04:49
slushpupieremount is an option to the mount command04:49
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sabmannreally? ok, another thing learned04:50
slushpupiesince you cant unmount root, you use remount to change the mount options for root, if you wish04:50
iustin!! aleluia!04:50
ubotuiustin: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about04:50
rambo3why use the easy solution , when there is complicated one04:50
iustinit worked04:50
iustini can see04:50
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dj_smilee|workhow do i get rsync to move all files in / to a directory in /mnt using the -a and -x flags?04:51
dj_smilee|worki get some freaky ass errors04:52
iustinthanks to all, now i will restart just to be sure!!04:52
freelovemy pppoe connection doesn't start at boot time.....any way to fix this?04:52
freelovealthough during pppoeconf i set it to start at boot..04:52
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kbrooksI don't use a modem, yet on another user account (i dont have this problem) it gives a error while trying to connect to IRC on irssi saying it cant assign requested address04:53
kbrookswhat gives?04:53
zool2005check drivers are being loaded at right time04:53
kbrooks"modem" meaning dialup modem04:53
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xiaogilIs it good english to say "Apart from that..." in a letter ?04:54
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kbrooksSomeone?04:56
kbrooks"modem" meaning dialup modem04:56
kbrooksI don't use a modem, yet on another user account (i dont have this problem) it gives a error while trying to connect to IRC on irssi saying it cant assign requested address04:56
kbrooks"modem" meaning dialup modem04:56
kbrooksHELP ME PLEASE04:56
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kbrooksTHIS IS URGENT04:56
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Amaranthkbrooks: Calm down..04:57
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Demian___Evening04:57
Amaranthkbrooks: Does the other users have permission to access the internet? Check with the users and groups tool04:57
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Fujoorguys which wm is the lightest one? xfce, fluxbox or icewm?04:58
Demian___does anyone here know how to record internet streams like realplayer and such?04:58
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AmaranthFujoor: One of those last two.04:58
kbrooksAmaranth, on the user privs tab and i dunno04:59
Fujoorso xfce is heavier than xfce? fluxbox is nicer than icewm though isnt it?04:59
ali1234Demian: you know the annoying URL list you get when you try to save a real clip? feed it to mplayer like this: mplayer -dumpstream -playlist <file.rm>04:59
TuntisHello people04:59
Amaranthkbrooks: The tab with all the checkboxes for things04:59
TuntisI were just apt-getting stuff to my Ubuntu05:00
TuntisThen...05:00
kbrooksAmaranth, What do  I have to checkmark05:00
kbrooks?05:00
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TuntisIn grub, there were two Ubuntu's!05:00
kbrooksto give internet access05:00
Amaranthkbrooks: Anything internet related on there?05:00
kbrooksTuntis, 2 kernels05:00
Amaranthi'm not on linux right now05:00
amiasi am upgrading from breezy to dapper and have hit an error with apt 'Problem parsing dependency Depends' , anyone got a fix for this ?05:00
TuntisDoesn't sound too good.05:00
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kbrooksTuntis, 2 kernels05:00
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AmaranthTuntis: It's in case the new kernel is broken.05:00
kbrooksboth are installed05:00
AmaranthTuntis: So you can switch back to the old one.05:00
Tuntiswhen did I make a new kernel...05:01
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Dr_WillisTuntis,   trivial - dont worry about it..05:01
erUSULkbrooks, dial-up?05:01
jpfariashi!05:01
Dr_WillisTuntis,  the updates installed a new one.05:01
kbrooksTuntis, you installed a new kernel05:01
Tuntisoh05:01
kbrookserUSUL, i dont use it05:01
jpfariasI've setup the vpn stuff on a ubuntu machine05:01
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jpfariasbut when the user connects to it, the default gateway is set to the ip it receives05:01
jpfariasand not the default gateway of the server05:01
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jpfariashow do I configure it to get the correct default gateway?05:02
DartanDoes anyone know why my USB drive wouldn't show up in lsusb or in dmesg when I connect it, yet other devices do? (and the USB drive does work on other computers and before I switched to Breezy)05:02
kbrookserUSUL, on cable05:02
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TuntisSo the new updates made a new kernel?05:03
ali1234Dartan: is it USB 1.x or USB 2.0?05:03
ali1234and what about your hub?05:03
Dartan1.x, and no hub, right into the computer05:03
ali1234okay, but the computer, it is 1.x or 2.0?05:03
Dartancomputer is 1.x05:04
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Syrussanyone know how I can make skype use alsa (or change it's audio settings), it's blocking up my soundcard05:05
ali1234i ask because, i have a usb 2.0 card, and if i plug usb 2.0 devices into it, they dont work. but if i plug usb 1.0 devices in, they work, and if i put in a (1.0) hub between the usb 2 device and the card, that works also.05:05
Dr_WillisSyruss,  theres a ubuntu skype wiki page.. may want to check there.05:05
Syrussali1234: sounds like you don't have the right module loaded05:05
Syrussthere's ehci, ohci and uhci modules.05:05
ali1234Syruss: I have all three usb modules loaded :)05:05
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Syrusshrmm05:06
amiasanyone had 'Error occurred while processing libgd2-Joxpm (NewVersion1)'05:06
Syrussuse dmesg to see what's going on05:06
amiasits borked my apt05:06
DartanI'll have to check to see if I have those loaded05:06
Syrussdmesg | grep -i usb05:06
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ali1234Syruss: to make skype use alsa, just kill esd or arts if they are running. then it will automatically fall back. look at the console output05:06
Syrussta05:07
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Dartanwhen I do that nothing shows up...so, not loading any usb modules??05:07
Dartanbut my usb joystick works...weird05:07
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Syrussali1234: I don't have esd or arts loaded.05:08
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erUSULDartan, do a sudo tail -n 100 /var/log/messages and plug the drive see what's showing up in the log05:09
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ali1234Syruss: so what is skype using instead of alsa then?05:10
erUSULSyruss, if skype uses alsa it will block the device while playing sounds05:10
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hussamis this a known bug? OO.o 1.9.129 sometims crashes when I save a .doc file after inserting an image.05:10
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Dartanwell, at work now, so can't plug it in (ssh'd into it at the moment)05:10
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skeldmy HD made an interesting noise and my computer locked.  It's working again after a hard reboot, is there any possibility that im NOT screwed?05:11
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Ngskeld: you might want to consider backing up important data and installing smartmontools - it can display the SMART information from the drive05:12
erUSULskeld, better check the fs with fsck and make buckups just in case...05:13
skeldok.  suggestion on backup utilities?  i dont have much that needs to be saved.05:13
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northieyou on another drive now, skeld?05:13
amiasskeld: maybe , but back it up before you do anything else05:13
RawplayerMI05:13
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northieI'm trying to figure out why my valknut won't save its settings05:14
northiewhere's the config at?05:14
erUSULskeld, just burn a cd-r (or dvd)05:15
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MWettendorffWhat does this means?????  (ERROR 1130: Host 'localhost.localdomain' is not allowed to connect to this MySQL server)05:15
Ngor use the archive manager to make a tarball or rsync the files to another machine - depends how much data you're talking about and what means of storing it you have available05:16
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zandaaseveas: I still couldn't get xmoto installed, but that's ok05:16
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erUSULMWettendorff, i think that the error msg is clear enough there must be a list of allowed servers for mysql and localhos.localdomain is no there05:17
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NecrocideI got a question, where do I place my downloaded fonts, so I can use them in the "Fonts" application to assign what fonts should be used to eg. desktop?05:18
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testingMonteiro? Telmo?05:18
zandaahey all, I think Gaim is a little weird05:18
Dr_Aceis there a place to add advanced settings for wireless networks, ie channel, mode, etc?05:18
MWettendorfferUSUL: crist.. it worked fine last night.. this is realy getting on my nerve..05:18
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Rubindr_ace: in the file /etc/network/interfaces05:18
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Rubindr_ace: though its not very well documented05:19
Dr_AcemasterRubin will check that out05:19
MillenniumgroupRubin...from Afternet?05:19
Dr_AcemasterRubin do you know if that's what wifi radar uses?05:19
RubinDr_Acemaster: check out the command 'iwconfig'05:19
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erUSULMWettendorff, i do not know much mysql so i can not help you further05:19
RubinDr_Acemaster: most of those same config options can be used in that file i think05:19
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frogzooDr_Acemaster: some people use gtkwifi for this - but it doesn't integrate to the task bar when I tried it05:19
obiyodaI recently installed ubuntu onto a toshiba laptop. the trouble is that it is not working with my onboard NIC. It identified the card but will not connect to anything what can I do?05:19
RubinMillenniumgroup: yeah, who are you? :)05:19
NgNecrocide: open a file manager window, then pick Location from the Go menu and type fonts:// - drag the fonts in there05:20
Dr_AcemasterRubin cause this connection was working fine a few days, but now it can't pull ip from router05:20
erUSULNecrocide, in ~/.fonts/05:20
Millenniumgrouphi :) a small hint xb-sky ;)05:20
NgNecrocide: or you can make a .fonts directory in your home and put them there05:20
NecrocideMeeep! :)05:20
NecrocideI check05:20
RubinDr_Acemaster: ndiswrapper?05:20
NgNecrocide: you may not have permission to put them in fonts://05:20
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skeldoookay, im backed up.05:20
RubinMillenniumgroup: haha thats funny. howdy :)05:20
Dr_AcemasterRubin ? not sure what you mean05:20
MillenniumgroupGood Evening, small world eh ;)05:20
frogzooskeld: now install smartmontools & run a short disk test05:20
NecrocideNg, can I root it there?05:21
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RubinDr_Acemaster: oh, then nevermind. heh05:21
Dr_AcemasterRubin I didn't do anything special to get it to work the first time, worked fine right after install05:21
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Dr_Acemasterbut all of sudden quit05:21
RubinDr_Acemaster: you tried taking it down and up again?05:21
Dr_Acemasterand can't figure it out05:21
Rubiniv had that problem myself often05:21
Dr_AcemasterRubin you mean deactivating?05:21
Dr_Acemasteryes I have05:21
Rubinsometimes i even have to unload the module and load it again05:21
NgNecrocide: running nautilus as root is not usually a good idea - do you need them to be available to other local users? if not then ~/.fonts/ will be fine05:21
MWettendorfferUSUL: That is oki.. i just have to figure out a way to get past that... maybe a reinstall of the hole ubuntu will do the trick.. it wont be the first time this n00b has to do that...05:21
Dr_Acemasterrebooting help after deactivation?05:21
Rubinyes, but not neceesary05:21
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skeldfrogzoo: okay, thanks.05:22
Rubinjust ifdown wlan0; rmmod (whatever your wireless driver module is called)05:22
NecrocideNg, will that enable them in the fonts application so I can assign them to eg. my desktop?05:22
Dr_AcemasterRubin I didn't think so, but I've tried everything it seems05:22
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Dr_Acemasterhow do you unload the module?05:22
Rubinrmmod modulename05:22
Rubinbut you have to stop using it first (ifdown wlan0)05:22
erUSULMWettendorff, a reinstall of mysql will be enough i think (after remove --purge)05:22
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Rubinsorry im a commandline guy :)05:23
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Dr_Acemasterso module name could be ath0?05:23
NgNecrocide: should do :)05:23
Rubinno thats interface name (ifdown ath0)05:23
Dr_AcemasterRubin I used to be command line, but haven't used 'em in ages05:23
Rubinlsmod to see a list of modules05:23
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ubun-newbiehow do i install a program when i do ls it shows ls05:23
ubun-newbieChangeLog  COPYING  doc  INSTALL  patches  README  samples05:23
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Ngread INSTALL05:23
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Rubinubun-newbie: less INSTALL05:24
NecrocideNg, Hmm, I placed em there, they are marked with a lock. And the premission is set to my user. But they don't appear in the Fonts application?05:24
Millenniumgroup>>> ./05:24
Dr_AcemasterRubin what might the name of my module be?05:24
RubinDr_Acemaster: i dunno.. type lsmod and figure it out :/05:24
Dr_AcemasterI did, and I get a list of about 50 things05:24
Rubinyeah05:24
Rubinwhat kinda card is it?05:25
ubun-newbieIT DID NOT INSTALL05:25
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ubun-newbieit opened a window05:25
zandaahm...05:25
Rubinubun-newbie: read05:25
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zandaaanyone know dosbox?05:25
Dr_Acemasterdlink airplusG05:25
Millenniumgrouptype ./install.pl or what ever the extension05:25
Dr_Acemasterdwl-g51005:25
Millenniumgroupis it a debian package?05:25
erUSULubun-newbie, what are you trying to install?05:25
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Urthmoverhow do I add more resolutions inside "Change Resolution"?05:26
zandaaMilleniumgroup, was that question for me?05:26
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Millenniumgroupzandaa, nah ubuntu-newbie05:26
Urthmover"Screen Resolution" I mean05:26
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erUSUL!tell Urthmover about fixres05:26
zandaaah ok05:26
NgNecrocide: hmm, maybe https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto can help :)05:26
zandaa!dosbox05:26
ubotuzandaa: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about05:26
MillenniumgroupUrthmover, edit your xorg.conf or start the x serer05:26
Dr_AcemasterRubin wlan?05:26
zandaa!mp305:26
ubotuit has been said that mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:26
Urthmoverok I'll look for xorg.conf05:26
Millenniumgroupdpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (easiest)05:26
RubinDr_Acemaster: theres a module called wlan? that sounds promising05:26
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NecrocideI check Ng, thanks05:27
Millenniumgrouptry that first Urthmover05:27
Dr_AcemasterRubin yup05:27
RubinDr_Acemaster: try that05:27
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Dr_AcemasterRubin so I remove that, and then reload it?05:27
RubinDr_Acemaster: rmmod wlan; modprobe wlan05:27
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Dr_Acemasterhow do I reload it?05:27
RubinDr_Acemaster: then ifup ath005:27
Dr_Acemasterk05:27
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Rubinmodprobe loads it05:27
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Rubinone time doing this, my system locked up.. so save any open files :)05:28
skeldwell, my drive passed the "SMART overall health test" thing...05:28
sulliI just installed breezy and my wireless card isn't working, can anyone please give me some tips on trying to get it to work05:28
DermotHello all!05:28
Rubinsulli: what kind?05:28
zandaais Ubuntu debian-compatible?05:28
Rubinzandaa: yes and no05:28
zandaarubin, what do you mean by that?05:28
erUSUL!tell sulli about wifi05:28
Ngzandaa: that it's derived from debian, but you should be careful about trying to install debian packages ;)05:29
sulliit is integrated in the emachines laptop, I am pretty sure its broadcom05:29
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Urthmoverwith vmware do I need to use framebuffer?05:29
DermotAnyone know what package i need to apply in badger to get rpm support?05:29
MillenniumgroupDermot - alien05:29
Rubinzandaa: ubuntu is 'based' on debian. so it uses apt, and .deb packages.. but it has newer versions of most things than debian. so some simple packages work, but most that have dependancies wont work05:29
zandaaNg, so do you know if DOSbox (dos emulator) will work on Ubuntu?05:29
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DermotMillenniumgroup, thank you05:29
erUSULsulli, read what ubotu told you05:29
Ngzandaa: ubuntu includes dosbox05:29
erUSULDermot, alien05:29
snif96terHey wei jemand wie aMule besser ldt?05:30
Ngzandaa: it's in universe05:30
Dr_AcemasterRubin 'rmmod wlan' returns 'ERROR: Modue wlan is in use by wlan_wep,ath_pci,ath_rate_sample05:30
Millenniumgroupapt-get alien05:30
Millenniumgroupnp05:30
erUSUL!de05:30
ubotuit has been said that de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de05:30
MillenniumgroupRPM sucks :D05:30
Rubinzandaa: there are plenty of dos emulators in ubuntu05:30
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zandaaNg, really??? I can download it from repository?? cool, gonna do that right now05:30
RubinDr_Acemaster: ahh. try rmmod ath_pci05:30
Ngzandaa: if you enable the universe repository, yes :)05:30
Dr_Willisdosbox is amazing how wellit works05:30
erUSUL!tell snif96ter about de05:30
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zandaaNg, I've enabled that yesterday05:30
snif96terHey hab heute Edubuntu geladen voll cooles Programm.05:30
RubinDr_Willis: and theres no ubuntu package for it?05:30
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Dr_WillisRubin,  there was last i looked05:31
Rubinahh. k05:31
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Dr_Willis!info dosbox05:31
ubotudosbox: (A x86 emulator with Tandy/Herc/CGA/EGA/VGA graphics, sound and DOS), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.63-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 368 kB, Installed size: 1000 kB05:31
NgI just said it's in universe05:31
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Dr_AcemasterRubin ok that worked, and reloaded w/ modprobe ath_pci05:31
Dr_Acemasternow what05:32
RubinDr_Acemaster: ifup ath005:32
DermotMillenniumgroup, probally does but i just wanted to try this gyach enhanced :)05:32
Dr_Acemasterthat unloaded and reloaded the module?05:32
lorionanyone have ubuntu connected to a HDTV?05:32
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RubinDr_Acemaster: or use the gui to try and connect again05:32
Dr_Acemasterand the module is what ath0 uses?05:32
RubinDr_Acemaster: yeah. exactly05:32
zandaa!Dr_Willis, you run dosbox too on Ubuntu??? if so how can I correctly access my NTFS drive from it?05:32
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MillenniumgroupDermot, k :P05:32
Dr_AcemasterRubin ok, tryin to understand how this works, teach a man to fish... :)05:32
RubinDr_Acemaster: yep hehe05:32
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RubinDr_Acemaster: basically, at least for me, the wifi drivers have bugs because the mean wifi manuf wont tell anyone how to make good drivers. so they break and get into a bad state.. reloading the module sometimes fixes it..05:33
RubinDr_Acemaster: course, could be something else05:33
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Dr_AcemasterRubin ifup ath0 returns There is already a pid file /var/run/dhclient.ath0.pid with pid 005:34
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erUSULDr_Acemaster, delete the file05:34
Dr_Acemasterthen a a few unknown hardware address errors05:34
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RubinDr_Acemaster: hmm. when you ran ifdown, you did it as sudo right?05:34
erUSULDr_Acemaster, sudo rm /var/run/dhclient.ath0.pid and try again05:35
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RubinerUSUL: doesnt that mean that dhclient is still running tho?05:35
Dr_Acemaster'sudo ifup ath0' returns ifup: interface ath0 already configured05:35
RubinDr_Acemaster: sudo ifdown ath005:35
Rubinthen ifup05:36
Rubindoes it still say it?05:36
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erUSULRubin, or it shut down uncleanly and left the lock behaind05:36
Dr_Acemasterok after 'sudo ifdown ath0' and then 'ifup ath0' I get teh same error as before05:36
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Dr_Acemasterthat was sudo the second time as well btw05:37
RubinDr_Acemaster: then ifdown it again, and follow erUSUL's advise05:37
skeldI'm using reiserfs and fsck won't run.05:37
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erUSULskeld, fsck.reiserfs??05:38
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pawdrohow to remove grup and install lilo instead?05:38
pawdrogrub05:38
Rubinpawdro: you can do it in the package manager05:38
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ma_e05:38
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jonohi all05:39
Rubinpawdro: but be carefull because if theres a problem it wont boot05:39
tritiumhi jono05:39
skelderUSUL: yeah, fsck called fsck.reiserfs automatically.  it said it can't run because its mounted with write permissions.  i ran fsck as root.05:39
erUSULpawdro, apt-get remove grub && apt-get install lilo05:39
Ngis that jo no bacon? ;)05:39
Dr_Acemasterpawdro why do you want lilo instead of grub?05:39
pawdrothx05:39
Dr_AcemasterRubin ok ifdown ath0, then rm that file05:39
VincentMXdoes gdm always listen at the port for XDMCP?05:39
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tritiumVincentMX, only if you set it up to do so05:39
RubinDr_Acemaster: yep05:39
NgVincentMX: sudo gdmsetup :)05:39
VincentMXok05:39
erUSULVincentMX, depends on conf05:39
pawdroDr_Acemaster: because i dont know how to start linux on new compiled kernel 2.605:40
Dr_AcemasterRubin so what does rm that file do?05:40
pawdrowith lilo i have some exp05:40
Rubinpawdro:  /boot/grub/menu.1st05:40
Rubinpawdro: grub is easier than lilo05:40
Urthmoverhow do I enable the Windows key to do stuff?05:40
erUSULDr_Acemaster, delete the file05:40
tritiumpawdro, if you use kernel-package to build a .deb kernel package, it is automatically setup for you05:40
Urthmoverlike windows+R?05:40
Dr_AcemastererUSUL ok did05:40
Dr_AcemastererUSUL now what05:40
zandaaOMG!!!05:40
pawdrotritium: i compiled on my own05:40
Urthmoveror making a shortcut to open a console window05:40
NecrocideI got a wicked question! How do I add a trashcan on the desktop that changes icon when it's full and when its emtpy, and works with right click "Emtpy trash"? Hehe...05:40
pawdroand ive got a problem05:40
Rubinpawdro: its better to learn the 'ubuntu/debian way'05:40
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erUSULDr_Acemaster, now try again sudo ifup ath005:41
skeldsorry guys, gotta run.05:41
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tritiumpawdro, you can compile your own with kernel-package too05:41
pawdroRubin: but ordinary way is suitable to all unix'es05:41
tritiumthat's the whole idea05:41
pawdroand i wont have a problem in future05:41
Dr_AcemastererUSUL 'sudo ifup ath0' returns Internet Systems.... then sit0: unknown h/w address...05:42
Rubinpawdro: ubuntu uses a package system to keep your system orderly. if you work within it, you have good results and will like ubuntu. if you do not, you will have lots of chaos and not like ubuntu, always fighting it like now05:42
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Dr_AcemasterDHCPDISCOVER on ath0 to 255... interval 8....05:42
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pawdrook ill do ubuntu way05:42
pawdro;] 05:42
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Dr_AcemasterNo DHCPOFFERS received05:42
erUSULDr_Acemaster, does ath0 show up in ifconfig -a?05:42
pawdroto find out if i make mistakes compiling normally05:42
tritium!kernel05:42
Rubinpawdro: i dont have a good guide handy, maybe someone else does05:43
Dr_AcemastererUSUL yes05:43
tritiumpawdro, there is a good wiki page you can follow.  search wiki.ubuntu.com for "kernel"05:43
pawdrowiki ive got05:43
Dermotcan googlemail be collected via thunderbird?05:43
pawdroive got a question05:43
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DrBairDermot:  yes05:43
RubinDermot: yes05:43
VincentMXyes it works!05:43
cozhello all05:43
DrBairDermot:  theres an option you need to set in gmail to allow pop3 access05:43
VincentMX\o/05:43
erUSULDr_Acemaster, are you sure that your router works fine? it seems that the problem is in the router05:43
DermotThanks!05:43
pawdrowhat to do if i want to have the latest kernel, and i cant find it in apt-cache search05:44
pawdro?05:44
trappistbuild your own05:44
Dr_AcemastererUSUL that was my thinking, however, I can connect fine in windows05:44
DermotDrBair, yes have that set ok05:44
Rubinpawdro: theres a patch that makes any kernel acceptable05:44
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Dr_Acemasterand worked fine for few days with this same config05:44
Dr_Acemasterthe only thing I did was install wifi radar05:44
Ngpawdro: why do you want the latest? there's not much difference for most people05:44
Dr_Acemasterand I think I was trying to change b/w two wireless connections05:44
Dr_Acemasterdon't recall exactly05:44
hmpedersenI am finally running wireless :)05:44
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erUSULDr_Acemaster, i think that i can not help you further sorry05:45
chrisx1hey05:45
chrisx1!upgrade05:45
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade05:45
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Dr_AcemastererUSUL: damn, well thanks for the help05:45
Rubinpawdro: the ones in apt are pre-patched, but it is possible to patch a newer one. though its nice to use one others have tested for you05:45
hmpedersenBut my card will uninstall if i remove the driver cd :( (even though drivers are copied to hdd before install)05:45
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pawdroi want to  have compiled kernel on my own, and the latest can be05:45
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VincentMXis it possible to xdmcp remote login from a windows computer?05:46
Rubinpawdro: apt-cache search linux-source-2.605:46
GranMaestroHi there, this one is real easy for he who knows... how do I check if one necessary module is available and only needs o be loaded into the kernel?05:46
Dermotbreezy for me is a major update on warthog, excellent work if i do say so myself! :)05:46
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Rubinpawdro: just get the best version thats in there. it installs it in /usr/src05:46
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Rubinpawdro: the ubuntu way is just a wrapper for the normal way.. except it builds a .deb of the kernel image instad of just haphazardly installing it05:47
tritiumpawdro, you can use any kernel source package you want with kernel-package, even that latest .tar.gz off of kernel.org05:47
pawdroapt-cache search kernel will search for me?05:47
Rubinpawdro: i think the are 'linux-source' in ubuntu05:47
Dermothey jgrieves :)05:47
gimmulF!ssh05:47
ubotuI heard ssh is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SSHHowto05:47
tritiumcorrect, Rubin05:47
kalauzhi ppl! how can i make java 1.5 work with firefox? i read the forums but i cannot find the package in the universe repository... :( please help me!05:47
jgrievesDermot greetings :)05:47
HymnToLife!java05:47
chrisx1!repos05:47
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs05:48
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource05:48
hussamCan somebody help? Is this a known bug? OO.o 1.9.129 sometims crashes when I save a .doc file after inserting an image into the document.05:48
pawdroive made apt-cache search, and i cant find any latest that 2.6.12, so can i download from kernel.org, and make ubuntu way compiling05:49
pawdro?05:49
Rubinpawdro: yeah05:49
Rubinpawdro: but, unless you actually know what changed and need it, dont bother05:49
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Jowihello all05:49
Rubinpawdro: the ones in apt have bug fixes back-ported so they arnt as old as they look05:49
tritiumpawdro, you didn't search correctly, then05:49
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tritium!info linux-source-2.6.1205:50
ubotulinux-source-2.6.12: (Linux kernel source for version 2.6.12 with Ubuntu patches), section devel, is optional. Version: 2.6.12-10.24 (breezy), Packaged size: 39499 kB, Installed size: 39632 kB05:50
pawdrotritium: apt-cache search linux-source05:50
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mykehey05:50
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Rubinpawdro: are you running breezy or warty?05:50
pawdrobreezy05:50
Jowiyou can limit your search results for apt-cache search if you add --names-only05:50
Rubinits there05:51
mykeis there a way to get the files from the ubuntu server so if i format i can load the files with out the inet05:51
myke?05:51
Rubinmyke: you mean the install files?05:51
Jowimyke: apt-get --help will give you the option to download if you have a closer look05:52
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pawdroRubin: i can only see 2.6.12 kernel but none 2.6.14, any suggestions? or what i dont understand05:52
mykeok05:52
mykecool05:52
psusican someone remind me how to make a bash for loop to execute a command on foo*?05:52
Rubinpawdro: whats in .14 that .12 doesnt have?05:52
mykelike what about useing synaptic?05:52
Rubinpawdro: use .12. its a good kernel. nothing wrong with it05:52
obsvuugjanyone knows a good IDE for programming C/C++ ? (but not vim)05:53
mykethe option that says download and cache fileS?05:53
psusiobsvuugj: emacs05:53
pawdrook ill do it05:53
boyo-mat1psusi: for i in `ls | grep foo'; do command $i; done    ? or something like that05:53
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Jowimyke: -d i guess.05:54
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maxHow can I change the keyboard language?05:54
pawdroso another question, why there isnt .14 kernel?05:55
guisshi, i have a network at the office, some part of it is ethernet, some other part is wireless. I have set up 1 windows machine and 2 ubuntus in the wireless. Every machine can ping each other but the 2 ubuntus in the wireless. Any idea? I am using madwifi driver on 3com ethernet05:55
Jowimyke: haven't looked at synaptic :)05:55
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bunglehi05:55
chrisx1692 upgraded, 313 newly installed, 29 to remove and 0 not upgraded.05:55
chrisx1Need to get 529MB of archives.05:55
chrisx1After unpacking 456MB of additional disk space will be used.05:55
chrisx1lolz!05:55
mykedang05:55
chrisx1a long while to wait!05:55
bunglewhats that to install chrisx105:56
Jowichrisx1: you're on broadband? make sure you use a local mirror so you don't have to download from accross the atlantic05:56
chrisx1i dunno how to change mirrors05:57
Jowichrisx1: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list. mirrors here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive05:57
Jowichrisx1: that can practically double your download speed05:57
chrisx1i can cancel the downloads now?05:58
chrisx1or not?05:58
Jowichrisx1: you can cancel if you haven't already started the downloads05:58
chrisx1i have started05:58
spdl_afkbbl05:59
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chrisx1177kB/s 41m7s05:59
spdlquit05:59
maxHow can I change the keyboard language?05:59
Jowichrisx1: you *can* cancel with ctrl-c but it's up to you if you wish to take the chance.05:59
Millenniumgroupthe first guy who makes a normal newsgroup client for linux, will get rich :D05:59
chrisx1its k05:59
pawdrochrisx1: where u have such transfer?05:59
Millenniumgroupknzb = horrible buggy, pan = no comment, klibidio = buggy but ok05:59
chrisx1its up to 226kb/s05:59
chrisx1pawdro, what u mean?05:59
pawdroi mean: your house, university, work etc06:00
pawdrowhat bandwitch do you have06:00
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chrisx1home, 2mb06:00
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pawdrook06:00
chrisx1i have "limit" of 2gb a day but its no effect atm06:00
Dermotanyone recommend a good ftp server for breezy or package already available?06:00
chrisx1soon will be 10mb06:00
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chrisx1ftpd i think06:01
loufoquequelqu'un utilise gwenview ici ?06:01
pawdrochrisx1: what country?;] 06:01
chrisx1pawdro, UK06:01
JowiDermot: proftpd06:01
DermotJowi, thanks :)06:01
Goldfish10mb? My cable modem gets up to 600K. Some pipe!06:01
boyo-mat1Dermot: I like vsftpd06:01
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Jowinot me loufoque, mais si tu veux parle francaise, va a #ubuntu-fr06:02
chrisx1Davey, where u from?06:02
Daveychrisx1: I live in FL06:02
chrisx1kool06:02
loufoqueJowi: I knew there was something weird with everyone speaking english06:02
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Millenniumgroup10mb here as well06:02
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chrisx1well atm in uk i think max home speed is 8mb06:02
loufoquedoes anyone use gwenview ? I'm having a problem, it can't see zip files06:03
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loufoqueaccording to the official home page of gwenview it should be able to06:03
Davey$10 more for 10Mbit than 5Mbit is currently costing us :)06:03
chrisx1ntl are soon to do speeds of 50 mb(so they say)06:03
Millenniumgrouphopefully 100mb soon :)06:03
Dermotim on a wireless 1mb down , 256 up06:03
Jowiloufoque: yeah, ubuntu's got a few different language groups and the french is ok. #ubuntu-fr if you want support in french, otherwise you just stay here :)06:03
Dermotbut changing to 2mb down , 2mb up soon06:03
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Daveychrisx1, it was 2Mbit when I left the UK ;)06:03
Millenniumgroupchrisx1, maybe but uk ISP's are way to greedy06:03
Millenniumgroupfor their own good06:03
chrisx1they cahrge 25 for 2mb06:03
Daveychrisx1: that people were selling anyhow, the ADSL tecnology had an 8Mbit limit06:03
chrisx1thats like $50 US06:04
DermotMillenniumgroup, you think uk is bad, you should see ours in ireland.06:04
pawdroi hava academic net ;p06:04
MillenniumgroupDermot. sorry to hear that m8 :/06:04
pawdrouniversity06:04
Daveychrisx1, I'm British, only been here like 20 months :)06:04
Millenniumgroupwhen I get 100mb I'll dedicate 10mb to your house :D06:04
Dermoti pay 50 euro a month for 1mb06:04
chrisx1the fact ntl disconnect/drop like every otherday sucks06:04
MillenniumgroupDermot i pay 50 euro a month for 1mb :O :O06:04
DaveyI found Freeserve was pretty good06:04
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Dermotthats about 70 us dollars06:04
Jowino way. that's so expensive06:05
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Dermotup to two years ago we had no broadband options at all06:05
Dermotall dialup or real expensive isdn packages06:05
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chrisx1btw if i like stress or go mad its due to death of my father, R.I.P(just to let ya Know)06:05
MillenniumgroupI pay around 25  for 10mb... and that's normally a bit high06:06
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chrisx1i tend to stress a lot06:06
Daveywe pay like $45/month for 5Mbit, $55/month for 10Mbit06:06
Jowidsl2 16MB for 30 euro here. are you up in the mountains Dermot?06:06
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marcooohello is this the right place to ask about configuring apt on ubuntu?06:06
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Jowimarcooo: yep06:06
DermotJowi, in northeast ireland along northern border, not in any mountains06:06
marcoooah ok :)06:06
chrisx1apparently ntl 10mb is goin to be 35 - 4006:06
Ivanhow do i check how much memory fluxbox is using?06:06
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Dermotpeople about 20 mins down the road in northern ireland have bigger connections, ntl, bt etc..06:07
_jasonIvan, use the top command06:07
marcoooi want to use my local repositories rather than the ones ubuntu configured for me06:07
Ivan_jason but can i see the totam memory usage06:07
Ivanor do i have to sum it up myself06:07
marcoooso in sources.list i replaced every instance of the old repo's url with my local one but it still says it cant find them06:07
JowiDermot: lived in Dublin for awhile, couldn't affort any connection in Ireland. decided i had enough internet at work :)06:07
chrisx1 227kB/s 23m53s06:07
DermotJowi, theres a reason ireland is one of the most expensive countries in europe :)06:07
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_jasonIvan, press the letter 'f', after in top06:08
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Jowimarcooo: you need to run "sudo apt-get update" to update your changes06:08
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Dermotyou know its more expensive to live in dublin then new york city?06:08
marcoooyeah did that too06:08
marcoooor apt-get update as superuser06:08
marcoooi think thats the same, right?06:08
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JowiDermot: yeah, came after the euro changeover. the beer went up 30%06:08
opnsrcHOw do I get a shell or something that I can type in fsck and scandisk my HD06:08
opnsrcLike if there is an error I can do it but how else can I do it manually?06:09
Jowimarcooo: correct. maybe your mirrors are bad. have a look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive06:09
DermotJowi, everything went up, all prices rounded off to the euro...then it went downhill from there06:09
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marcooook thanks will be back soon :)06:09
Millenniumgroupopnsrc, eh? you're using BASH it supports fsck06:09
JowiDermot: yep, still made nice money though. only payed 20% tax so it was ok anyway :-D06:09
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DermotJowi, if i wanted a 4mb connection here...it would cost me near 170 euro a month06:09
opnsrcif I type it in it says Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem06:10
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JowiDermot: you say it's not worth it? ;-)06:10
Ivanhow do i speed up ubuntu startup? it takes like 5-10 min to boot everything???06:10
opnsrcAnd does anyone know of a way I can configure my menus other than Smeg06:10
opnsrcSmeg doesn't work06:10
opnsrcIT gives me so many problems06:10
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DermotJowi, not for that price :)06:10
Millenniumgroupopnsrc, sorry bud I reallly don't why you can't use it06:10
psusiIvan: are you talking about the livecd or installed on your hard drive?06:10
user01any idea how i can figure out how a video file is encoded if there is no extension on it?06:10
opnsrcBecause the file system is mounted06:10
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opnsrcI'm booting from the partition06:10
Ivaninstalled on my harddrive06:10
opnsrcThe partition is mounted06:11
BufferflyIvan,  get a computer thats faster than a pentium 206:11
Millenniumgroupah right06:11
GerrathI have a motherboard with the NFOURCE 430 chip set so I'm forced to use the latest nforce driver from nvidia and not the previous version that is in the Ubuntu repository.  Has anyone successfully installed the nvidia nforce driver on Ubuntu?06:11
IvanBufferfly no other way06:11
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Dermotok, time to eat, c ya later guys and gals06:11
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Ivani have e pentium crusoe 600mhz06:11
opnsrcBut like if I get an error I can do it when it boots. Is there like a key, escape, that I can push06:11
opnsrcI tried escape06:11
Millenniumgrouplater dermot06:11
GerrathIt compiles fine, loads fine but does not seem to make the nodes in /dev for the audio.06:11
BufferflyIvan, what speed is your processor, and how much ram do you have06:11
JowiIvan: that doesn't sound right. i got 65 seconds. compiled my own kernel and is now down to 35 seconds. have a look in the forums for "InitNG"06:11
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opnsrcDuring boot that will let me type it in and use it06:11
Gerrathexample: /dev/dsp06:11
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Millenniumgroupopnsrc, sorry im kinda out of my league here.. but im sure there's someoen else who could help ya out06:12
IvanJowi what is initNG06:12
Millenniumgroup*someone06:12
opnsrcThanks06:12
opnsrcWell I'm lost too, I'm new to linux06:12
BufferflyIvan,  how much ram do you have06:12
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Ivan12806:12
JowiIvan: initNG is some improved startup scripts. will reduce your boottime. I on a 1ghz 512mb ram.06:12
kyllen1I can't download hotway with apt-get06:12
Bufferflyivan, that would be another reason it takes ages, you need more ram06:12
opnsrcthanks06:13
Jowi!info hotway06:13
BufferflyIvan, a full gnome install and all the modules ubuntu loads as default u really need a minimum of 25606:13
Ivanbut i just want to use a system that dosn't need alot of ram06:13
ubotuhotway: (pop3 to Hotmail (HTTPmail) gateway), section universe/mail, is optional. Version: 1:0.8.2-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 48 kB, Installed size: 172 kB06:13
Ivani dont use gnome06:13
Ivani use fluxbox06:13
mahanguIvan, use xfce06:13
samu2i ran ubuntu with 128 MB for a while06:13
mahanguIvan, great06:13
marcoooso Jowi it says the following: The following package archive mirrors are available, for you to mirror from, if you would rather mirror from a downstream mirror than from the master servers at Ubuntu:06:13
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mahangueven better06:13
Jowikyllen1: as you can see it's in universe06:13
Ivanis there anything else i can do to save memory06:13
Ivan??06:13
marcoooso if i paste the local url into my sources.list and apt-get update it should work?06:14
Bufferflyivan, then u need to recompile the kernel as its obviously loading alot of modules u wont need or use06:14
JowiIvan: yeah, don't use gnome06:14
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IvanJowi i dont, i use fluxbox06:14
Ivanany thing elese?06:14
Ivanelse?06:14
Jowi!tell marcooo about repositories06:14
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BufferflyIvan, thats the main thing, once u got that down...you should be fine.06:14
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kyllen1jowi, in apt-cache don't see06:15
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BufferflyIvan,  im not sure why ur running ubuntu if ur not going to take advantage of its gui06:15
BufferflyIvan,  id of gone with something like debian and installed it package by package06:15
IvanBufferfly06:15
Ivanhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491&highlight=initNG06:15
JowiIvan: yeah, disable all startup progs you don't need. If you don't have any printers you can disable CUPS for example. read the forums, there are quite a bit to read in there.06:15
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Ivanis that it?06:16
Millenniumgroupanyone got a guide on how to install/use INITG?06:16
Jowikyllen1: you need to enable "universe" in your /etc/apt/sources.list. see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto06:16
stewskidoes anyone know how to tell if my ubuntu-desktop is up to date (I upgraded from 5.04 to 5.10 a while back)06:16
Millenniumgroupmy boot takes a few secondsd, but I wanna learn something new :)06:16
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JowiIvan: there is a program called BUM (Boot UP Manager) that can help you with that.06:17
Ivanwhat is initNG???06:17
Jowi!info bum06:17
ubotubum: (tool to manage bootup scripts), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.3.2-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 55 kB, Installed size: 348 kB06:17
kyllen1thanks jowi06:17
MillenniumgroupINITNG >>> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80423&highlight=initng06:17
JowiIvan: i already told you. optimised startup/boot scripts06:17
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sambagirlis anyone using ubuntu in a business setting? for example any medical facilities? using Vista medical software?06:17
opnsrcDoes anyone know of a way I can edit my menus other than smeg06:17
opnsrc?06:17
MillenniumgroupInitng is a full replacement of the old and in many ways deprecated sysvinit tool. It is designed with speed in mind because it does as much as possible asynchronously. In other words: It will boot your unix-system much faster, and give you more control and statistics over your system.06:17
stewskiaccording to synaptic I dont have ubuntu desktop installed?06:18
XiCillinhas anyone experienced their ssytem not shuting down when going to system>logout then shutdown while other apps are running like firefox?06:18
XiCillinand the gnome panel becoming unresponsive?06:18
opnsrcIs there any programs that can open quickbook files and transfer them to excel files?06:19
opnsrcAny free linux programs?06:19
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Jowistewski: ubuntu-desktop is a dummy/meta package that can be removed if you have updated or removed some packages. It is safe to have it gone. however, if you need to update your whole system (like a dist-upgrade or hoary->breezy) it is advisable to install it again06:20
opnsrcBasically how can I boot out of the GUI in Ubuntu06:20
opnsrcI want a command line interface only06:20
opnsrcIs there a key I can press during boot06:20
Kyralopnsrc: no........06:21
opnsrcI can type commands in Grub but that's not what I'm looking for since those only apply to grub commands06:21
stewskimy desktop still uses xpdf for pdfs will that move me over to the new thing begins with the letter e?06:21
KyralI mean you can disable GDM06:21
gnu2it2does quake 3 run on ubnutu ?06:21
opnsrcHow to do that?06:21
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zandaagnu2it2, I see no reason why not06:21
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Kyralopnsrc: sudo apt-get remove gdm?06:21
opnsrcNo I don't want to remove it06:22
Kyralthen I don't know lol06:22
opnsrcK thanks06:22
Kyralyou'd have to take it out of hte boot sequence06:22
Jowiopnsrc: alt-f1 to alt-f5 will give you console. if you wish to boot into console instead of gui, "man telinit" and "man runlevel" and "man inittab"06:22
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stewskisod it Ill load the ubuntu-desktop whats the worst that can happen :-)06:22
opnsrcthanks06:22
opnsrcyou mean from grub right?06:22
Kyralopnsrc: no, the bootsequence06:23
Kyralopnsrc: GRUB just kickstarts the thing06:23
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opnsrcmenu.lst right?06:23
Kyralopnsrc: no..06:23
Kyralopnsrc: try using BUM to disable it06:24
siab9000Is anybody else having problem with "apt-get update" on the us.archive.ubuntu.com repository?06:24
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Torez04Erm, hi. Can someone help me?06:25
siab9000the universe Packages is not in gzip format and it causes an error06:25
HymnToLifecertainly06:25
HymnToLifewhat is your problem ?06:25
opnsrcthanks06:25
Kyralsiab9000: remove the us. part from sources.list and try again06:25
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stewskithats sorted it ah meta package to the rescue cheers Jowi06:25
siab9000it happens from my home laptop (fresh install off CD) and my workstation at office06:25
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Torez04Ubuntu detects my wireless network card in the device manager area thing, but it's not available anywhere else06:25
siab9000kyral: ok i try that06:25
Jowistewski: np :)06:25
Torez04I need it to share my internet06:25
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zandaa!splashscreen06:26
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, splashscreen is to change your splashscreen via a GUI, "sudo apt-get install gtweakui", or install "gtweakui" from Synaptic (make sure you have universe !repos enabled)06:26
robotgeekTorez04: hmm, i can probably help you to get your wireless up. Sharing is not my ball game :)06:26
opnsrcI want to run fsck06:26
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siab9000go for it06:26
opnsrcbecause I get some boot fails upon boot06:26
boyo-mat1what does ubuntu use for bootsplash?06:26
Kyralopnsrc: You can get to root with Recovery mode06:26
Kyralboyo-mat1: USplash06:26
boyo-mat1Kyral: thanks06:26
robotgeekTorez04: what wireless card do you have?06:26
Torez04Realtek RTL818006:27
opnsrcboyo-mat1: USplash06:27
opnsrc?06:27
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opnsrcOh n/m06:27
opnsrcI thought that was a command06:27
opnsrcheh06:27
opnsrcthanks06:27
robotgeekubotu: tell Torez04 about wireless06:27
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opnsrck thanks06:27
robotgeekTorez04: is it listed as working on that page?06:27
Jowiopnsrc: fsck.ext3 (or which you have) /dev/harddisk_or_partition06:27
opnsrcthanks06:27
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opnsrcdoesn't work from a terminal while the OS is running06:28
Jowiopnsrc: you might want to add the -v switch06:28
kbrooks!rerpos06:28
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, kbrooks06:28
siab9000Kyral: that works, thank you.06:28
opnsrcI do06:28
kbrooks!repos06:28
Torez04Well it doesn't say it's not working anywhere..06:28
ubotuhmm... repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource06:28
opnsrcfor verbose06:28
kbrooksbrb lunch06:28
siab9000quit at the office06:28
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_Audrius_is it possible to upgrade Ubuntu 5.04 to 5.10 using ubuntu update manager?06:30
marcooo!sources06:30
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic06:30
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Jowiubotu, tell _Audrius_ about breezyupgrade06:31
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vblantonanyone know how to get the utility unrar so I can open .rar files?06:32
Kyral_Audrius_: you'd have to change /etc/apt/sources.list to use hoary instead of breezy06:32
Jowi!info unrar-free06:32
ubotuunrar-free: (Unarchiver for .rar files), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1:0.0.1-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 15 kB, Installed size: 84 kB06:32
Kyralvblanton: sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree06:32
ProNoobi am getting alot of "Dec  9 18:21:07 localhost kernel: [4300107.330000]  eth0: Too much work at interr upt, status=0x3c48080." messages like that since yesterday, and when it happens i get disconnected, i am connected to the internet with pppoe over eth0, any ideas ?06:32
Jowi!info unrar-nonfree06:32
ubotuunrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 83 kB, Installed size: 216 kB06:32
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vblantonJowi Kyral : I tried installing it but for some reason it wont open this .rar file I have...06:32
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Kyralvblanton: is it one of those multipart rars?06:33
vblantonKyral: I'm not sure06:33
stewskicant the standard ubu archieve handler handle rar?06:33
Jowivblanton: if you're using unrar-nonfree it should definetley work06:33
vblantonJowi: unrar-nonfree is not in my adept...?06:33
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Jowivblanton: it's in the multiverse repos06:34
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AlexOhey, Im trying to use my add applications and when it loads up everything is greyed out and I can't click on anything. How do I fix this?06:34
vblantonJowi: is there a place I can read up on what multiverse is?06:34
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Kyralubotu tell vblanton about repos06:34
tristanAlexO : are talking about smeg?06:34
AlexOsmeg?06:34
Kyralvblanton: our friendly bot should have just PM'd you a link06:34
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zandaaany dosbox users in here?06:35
Jowiyeah vblanton:06:35
Jowi!repos06:35
vblantonKyral: ok thanks06:35
uboturepos is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource06:35
tristanAlexO : adding menus and shortcut to your menu bar...06:35
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JowiKyral: you're quicker :)06:35
Torez04I just ran lspci, and it doesn't detect my wireless card...06:35
KyralJowi: because I'm good at this06:35
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stewskisteps back for a moment, this place is amzing you know06:35
AlexOno, all I did was try and run it and it won't fully load06:35
KyralTorez04: what kind is it?06:35
Jowihaha06:36
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Torez04RTL8180 as far as I know06:36
KyralTorez04: have you tried NDiswrapper?06:36
tristantry in terminal to run it as root by typing sudo smeg06:36
Torez04Yep06:36
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joedjanyone know why KDE beeps when i hold shift for ~5sec?06:36
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Torez04Device manager sees the wireless card, but nothing else06:36
Kyraljoedj: no idea I don't run KDE06:36
KyralTorez04: is it a PCI card?06:36
Torez04YEs06:36
nifelsekii have the same problem with my wireless usb adapter06:36
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robotgeekTorez04: ig the Device Manager sees it, lspci should see it too06:36
robotgeeknifelseki: lsusb | less06:37
Torez04it doesn't, it's really wierd..06:37
stewskianyone know of a good way of mapping windows+e to nautilus etc?06:37
Jowijoedj: no idea, but i can guess that it might be a bell for enabling "sticky-keys" or something. look in your keyboard prefs06:37
nifelsekican anyone help me installing my wireless usb adapter..?06:37
Torez04Wait..06:37
Torez04It's found it..06:37
AlexODoes nobody know how I can fix this? : (06:37
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nifelsekican anyone help me installing my wireless usb adapter..? dlink (dwl-g132)06:38
tristantry in terminal to run it as root by typing sudo smeg06:38
tristanAlexO : try in terminal to run it as root by typing sudo smeg06:38
Jowinifelseki: i'm not a wireless guy, but have you looked at the wifi wiki docs?06:38
AlexOalright06:38
robotgeekubotu: tell nifelseki about wireless06:39
nifelsekiyeah.. but it got weird while i was trying to install ndiswrapper06:39
Jowiah06:39
nifelsekifinding it very difficult to install it06:39
Torez04alright. Lspci has found my card. What do I do if it doesn't say my device in the list in the wiki?06:39
robotgeeknifelseki: uggh, i have no clue with ndiswrapper. sorry06:39
nifelsekiawwwwww06:39
Jowinifelseki: did you have a look here as well...06:39
Jowi!wifi06:39
ubotuit has been said that wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto06:39
AlexOaha! it works, thank you tristan06:39
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robotgeekTorez04: see that link. WifIHowto :)06:39
Taa5iHas anyone had any success using an HP NetRaid with Ubuntu?06:40
nifelsekidid that.. anyways.. just curious.. i just downloaded the new version of openoffice.. should i remove the openoffice provided by ubuntu or would it automatically update it..?06:40
Kyralnifelseki: if its OO2 it will just upgrade06:41
AlexOerr wait, It brought up a menu editor, what do I do from here?06:41
kbrooksKyral, rephrase that06:41
tristanAlexO : OK. You might have trouble after to have you menu updated. I had that trouble also. If you have that problem, see my post here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=538193#post53819306:41
Kyralkbrooks: huh?06:41
Taa5iThe controller for it doesn't even appear in lsscsi --hosts, which is botehrsome.  In debian sarge neitehr that nor the symios one appeared, in Gentoo both appear fine [but other prolems arise] .06:41
kbrooksKyral, what will just upgrade? and what's "it"?06:41
tristanAlexO : you edit what you want. Like if you want to add shortcuts in the menu accessories, you can06:42
kbrooksKyral, Your statement is a bit ambiguous06:42
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stewskiany advice on really cool apps I may not know?06:42
kbrooksnifelseki, you have to remove the old openoffice before installing the newer one06:42
Kyralemacs? Beagle? F-Spot?06:42
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HymnToLifeto do what stewski ?06:42
_Audrius_a question regarding mouse. I have configured mouse motion to be more smoothly, but when i'm using touch pad on my notebook, those settings do not affect it. how to configure touch-pad's sensitivity>06:43
AlexOerr no, that isn't the problem. I know where the add applications is but when I click on it it doesnt fully load, it comes up but everything is greyed out and I can't click on anything06:43
robotgeekKyral: emacs is not a cool app :)06:43
HymnToLifeemacs stinks06:43
Kyralrobotgeek: Not here ;P06:43
HymnToLifevi rules :p06:43
KyralNO EDITOR WARS!!06:43
AlexOwould it help if I sent a screenshot and sent it to you?06:43
tristanAlexO : you launch it as root?06:43
stewskianything HYmnToLife name those obscure utils and Ill check em out06:43
KyralIrssi06:43
_jasonKyral, war? it's not even close vim4life :P06:43
AlexOhow would I go about doing that?06:43
stewskiprefereably gui based06:43
ProNoobi am getting alot of "Dec  9 18:21:07 localhost kernel: [4300107.330000]  eth0: Too much work at interr upt, status=0x3c48080." messages like that since yesterday, and when it happens i get disconnected, i am connected to the internet with pppoe over eth0, any ideas ?06:43
AlexOsorry if im being a troble by the way, im just new to this06:43
Kyralwell, Emacs Vim and Irssi just got shot out of the cannon06:44
nifelsekianyways.. just curious.. i just downloaded the new version of openoffice.. should i remove the openoffice provided by ubuntu or would it automatically update it..?06:44
tristanAlexO : by typing in terminal "sudo smeg" without quotes06:44
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soundray_Audrius_, touchpads usually have their own driver. Most are either Synaptics or Alps - that would be the first thing you want to find out.06:44
AlexOwell I did that it took me to the menu editor, not the add remove applictions06:44
Jowitristan: smeg is the menu editor. AlexO wanted the app installer06:44
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stewskiWhats Irssi?06:44
kbrooksAlexO, is it greyed outr when it loads06:44
Kyralstewski: Console based IRC Client06:45
_Audrius_soundray, ok, but if i simply have just notebook, how should i find out this?06:45
AlexOyeah06:45
Kyralstewski: Very powerful and loads of scripts06:45
kbrooksstewski, a console based irc client06:45
tristanOK. I understand06:45
kbrooksAlex, No06:45
kbrookssmeg, AlexO06:45
stewskicoolio the other 2 I know term based text eds06:45
tristanSorry but my Ubuntu is in French so sometimes I have mistranslation...06:45
soundray_Audrius_, look through the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see if the term Synaptics occurs.06:45
stewskiVi - Improved takes me back06:45
Kyralstewski: If you ask in a Linux channel for "really cool apps" you will most likely find a lot of them console based :D06:45
AlexOim in the menu editor now, what do I do from here? I see the add applictions on the list here06:45
Torez04I get an Operation Not Permitted when trying to modprobe ndiswrapper06:46
stewskiyeah I know Kyral06:46
kbrooksAlexO, when you startup smeg, is it greyed out (the gui)?06:46
KyralTorez04: sudo it06:46
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JowiTorez04: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"06:46
DelTreehi...06:46
stewskiand dont get me wrong Vi sure needed Improving and Vim a fine job at that06:46
kbrooksAlexO, yes or no please06:46
tristanAlexO : do you want to install new applications?06:46
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AlexOnot when i use smeg, only when I try and use add aplications06:46
AlexOyes : P06:46
Kyralstewski: Lets keep the Editor Wars out of here lol06:46
stewskilol06:46
Torez04Yeah, I thought about Sudoing it. I don't understand Linux though, lol06:46
_Audrius_soundray, bingo... I fount synaptics :) What next steps should i take to configure it?06:46
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Kyralstewski: Beagle is awesome06:46
tristankbrooks : shall he go to Synaptic o install the apps...06:46
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kbrooksTorez04, correction: you don't understand ubuntu06:46
JowiTorez04: whenever you need to modify system files, sudo is needed06:47
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stewskibest yeah is top06:47
DelTreehow is the file install/powerpc/vmlinux of the cdrom produced ?06:47
Kyralstewski: if you know what Spotlight is on Mac, you know what Beagle is06:47
Jowiubotu, tell Torez04 about sudo06:47
soundray_Audrius_, I think you can install an application called tpconfig.06:47
Torez04XD. Correction: I don't understand Linux OR Ubuntu06:47
HymnToLife!sudo06:47
ubotusomebody said sudo was the command to get superuser privileges, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo06:47
KyralDelTree: compiled on a PowerPC machine :P06:47
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kbrooksTorez04, some linux distributions don't use sudo06:47
Torez04I'm 110% new to all this stuff..06:47
kbrooksby default06:47
kbrooksTorez04, anyway, welcome to ubuntu06:48
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Kyralstewski: VLC owns :D06:48
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HymnToLifebut the Ubuntu build doesn't06:48
tristanAlexO : then you should use synaptic06:48
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_Audrius_soundray, thanks06:48
AlexOwhere is that at?06:48
HymnToLifeit can't play MKV files, I had to recompile it all06:48
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DelTreeKyral: I know that... but linux-source-2.6.12_2.6.12-9.23_all.deb is not enough... where's the di version ???06:48
soundray_Audrius_, does that work for you?06:48
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kbrooksTorez04, hmm let me give me a example to show how ubuntu could be used. you can install new software06:48
KyralHymnToLife: You have to install libmatroksa :P06:48
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Kyral!info libmatroska06:49
Urthmoverhowq do I enable the logo key?06:49
kbrooksTorez04, system > adminstration > synaptic. now ... a dialog box pops up06:49
_Audrius_i'm working on it06:49
HymnToLifehaha nice one, of course I did06:49
KyralUrthmover: you mean the Windows Key06:49
KyralHymnToLife: Hmm, worked for me....06:49
Urthmoverlol06:49
_Audrius_soundray, i'm working on this06:49
Urthmoveryeah06:49
UrthmoverI try not to use that bad word whenever possible06:49
HymnToLifebut it still wouldn't read them, I recompiled it and it worked06:49
stewskibeagle yeah I compiled it, its more than a bit heavy at the moment though?06:49
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KyralUrthmover: It is referred to as "Super_L/R" in shortcuts06:49
XiCillinhello, i have freebsd 5.4 install on /dev/hda4 on my 1 and only hd. I"m trying to edit menu.lst so i can boot to it. i have (hd0,3,a) for 'root'. would the 3 be a 4 for hda4?06:49
soundray_Audrius_, okay, take your time, hope it works. Off again...06:49
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kbrooksTorez04, and you type in a password you associated with your account when you installed ubuntu06:50
Urthmoverok...so where's shortcuts?06:50
UrthmoverI'm new man sry06:50
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stewskiI cant settle on one movie player none seem to play everyhting exactly as I want06:50
Kyralstewski: you don't have to compile it06:50
DelTreehow the hell can I patch that kernel and make a new CD image ??06:50
AlexOwhere is synaptic at?06:50
KyralUrthmover: Keyboard shortcuts. I think its in Preferences06:50
vectoralpha|awaystewski: mplayer?06:50
Torez04I know Synaptic pretty much. It's installing from GZs I really suck at.06:50
kbrooksTorez04, press enter06:50
HymnToLifestewski > VLC does for me06:50
stewskiyeah got mplayer06:50
stewskiand VLC06:50
tristanAlexO : type in terminal sudo synaptic06:50
kbrooksTorez04, ah ok06:50
UrthmoverSystem > Administration > Synaptic package manager06:51
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KyralTorez04: 99% of the itme you shouldn't have to do from tarballs06:51
Kyraland I have to go to class lol06:51
stewskitheres no way to monkey with the aspect output in either06:51
vectoralphastewski: i never really liked vlc, mplayer is the way to go06:51
stewskibut theyre both very good06:51
HymnToLifemplayer stinks if you have a widesreen monitor06:51
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kbrooksTorez04, define the fact that you are a 100% newbie please06:51
tristanAlexO : else go to System - Administration - Synaptic06:51
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JowiUrthmover: gnome-keyboard-properties. look at "layout options" and "Alt/Win key behaviour"06:51
AlexOalittle off topic but is the sudo command used to run things in the terminal?06:51
hmpedersenDoes anyone know how to register a protocol for use when clicking links? (and how to choose which program to open the link in)06:51
AlexOok06:51
stewskiI had to compile mplayer too06:51
Torez04Lol, 99% of the time I've spent using Ubuntu, I've done nothing BUT install from gz >.<06:51
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vectoralphastewski: i'm actually compiling it right now06:51
tristanAlexO : no sudo is to get super user privilege06:51
KyralAlexO: sudo is used to execute commands that need Root06:51
kbrooksTorez04, dont pm me06:51
kbrookstalk here06:52
stewskiand when I installed beagle you had to compile best I think although it was a while back06:52
Torez04Define it? It's been about 3 days since the first time I EVER saw anything to do with Linux in my entire life..06:52
KyralAlexO: you can run anything with it06:52
Kyralkbrooks: stop hassling the kid lol06:52
JowiTorez04: i hope you like it :)06:52
AlexOoh alright06:52
kbrooksKyral, i'm a kid too06:52
HymnToLifelmao06:52
kbrooks1406:52
Torez04So far, I'm impressed, but really confused..06:52
AlexOok synaptic came up with an error06:52
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tristanAlexO : which is...?06:53
AlexOE: Type 'eb-src' is not known on line 37 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list06:53
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Kyralkbrooks: I meant kid as in level of Linux Knowledge06:53
fredikann von euch jemand deutsch?06:53
AlexO: The list of sources could not be read.06:53
AlexOGo to the repository dialog to correct the problem.06:53
Kyraland I really have to go06:53
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chrisx1Jowi, Fetched 529MB in 41m4s (215kB/s)06:53
chrisx1lolz06:53
stewskialso I cant get 5.1 surround06:53
kbrooksKyral, so go06:53
HymnToLifeAlex > seemsyou forgot a "d" in your soures.list on line 3706:53
tristanAlexO : did you changed your repository?06:53
JowiTorez04: it take some rethinking since it is a different way to do things.06:53
stewskion my nforce 2 setup06:53
Jowichrisx1: not bad ;)06:53
AlexOnope, but I clicked ok on the error and its working now : P06:53
chrisx1lolz yah pretty good eh06:53
stewskithat said ubuntu has plenty of tricks up its sleeve06:53
vblantonTorez04: but once you've got the hang of it, ya can't go back ;)06:54
HymnToLifeagreed06:54
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Urthmoveryeah got it...thanks06:54
tristanAlexO : then you will have a repository that won't be working? Anyway, now you can look for the apps you want to install. It is very easy and will do everything for you06:54
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Torez04I just wish it was more compatible. Ubuntu with compatability would be pretty much like two turtles strapped back-to-back, each carrying a gun; unstoppable...06:54
Torez04If they understood how to use a gun that is...06:54
Torez04But anyway, you get my point..06:54
vblantonturtles...06:54
Urthmovernow if I can just get NSV to play......what is the command to figure out the package names in apt-get?06:55
vectoralphastewski: have you tried the command to modify aspect ratio for mplayer..., ex mplayer -monitoraspect 4:306:55
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Urthmoverapt-get search doesn't seem to work/exists on mine06:55
GranMaestrohi is there anybody here running wifi with airport on breezy-ppc?06:55
stewskiah vector I run a 24" widescreen at 1920X120006:55
vblantonTorez04: there is software available to run windows software on linux. Some of it is free, some of it costs money. you should look into "wine" if your ever interested http://www.winehq.com <-- I think06:55
JowiUrthmover: "apt-cache search --names-only mysearchword"06:56
AlexOso do I need to fix this repository thing? or will it even matter?06:56
stewskiand in power dvd you can choose the output of aspect of your video06:56
stewskipan and scan06:56
zandaacan anyone help me installing the flash plugin for firefox?06:56
stewskioriginal06:56
Torez04I heard wine mentioned once, hm.. will look into that some time..06:56
chrisx1Jowi, is this ok : perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:        LANGUAGE = "en_GB:en",        LC_ALL = (unset),        LANG = "en_GB.UTF-8"    are supported and installed on your system. perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").06:56
Urthmoveronce again thanks jowi06:56
stewski1.618 what ever06:56
tristanAlexO : well it would be better.06:56
stewski2.35:106:56
vectoralphastewski mplayer -monitoraspect 8:506:56
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HymnToLifeAlex0 > it will matter if you want to install software from that particulary repo06:56
vblantonTorez04: currently, the only thing I run on wine is eMule.. the p2p filesharing program06:56
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AlexOhow would I go about fixing it? should I reinstall ubuntu?06:56
sylvain_i just install ubuntu and i like pretty much, but somebody can help me with root passwd06:56
Ngvblanton: why not run amule natively? :)06:56
stewskiah an option not available through gui but on the command line I see06:57
vectoralphastewski, when talking to me please type my handle so that i can see you are talking to me06:57
Torez04Right, wireless is being detected perfectly now, woot. Is there a howto on sharing internet over a wifi connection? As in, like, recieving internet in on a wired connection, then broadcasting out on the wireless?06:57
HymnToLifeAlexO > no way06:57
vblantonNg: amule doesn't have support for Kad yet, and it's become very importan06:57
Jowichrisx1: only a warning. nothing fatal.06:57
stewskisoz and thanks vectoralpha06:57
tristanAlexO : not at all. Use pastebin to paste your source.list06:57
HymnToLifejust run this : sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list06:57
Ngvblanton: ah, I havent used edonkey for a while, but I was using mldonkey anyway ;)06:57
vectoralphastewski if you always want it at that ratio, just make a shell script that'll do it for you06:57
vblantonNg: without Kad you get half the sources..06:57
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vectoralphastewski, let me know if that option works okay though, i am rather curious06:58
vblantonTorez04: have fun, im outa here.06:58
Torez04See yas06:58
Urthmoverwhat is the name for the w32codecs?06:58
UrthmoverI can't seem to find it in apt-cache06:58
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stewskiwell its dependant on the source vectoralpha o it would be a good candidate for a gui option06:58
vectoralphastewski i do agree06:58
pawdrowhat make-kpkg clean do?06:59
AlexOok im in the sources list06:59
AlexOwhat do I do from here?06:59
stewskibut ta for the commandline option name vectoralpha06:59
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sylvain_somebody want help me for root password06:59
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vectoralphastewski, no problem, let me know how it works for you, and..., how long did it take you to compile?06:59
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Ngsylvain_: see the RootSudo page in the ubuntu wiki06:59
stewskianyone know if you can run your whole gnome session as root?07:00
tristanAlexO : go to line 37 and see if there is somthing different from the other lines.07:00
Ngstewski: if you log in as root07:00
Urthmoversylvain_, sudo passwd root07:00
sylvain_tank you07:00
obscuriteHey when I 'apt-get install open-ssh' it keeps prompting me to insert the breezy cd. Any ideas?07:00
stewskioh vectoralpha ages it took longer than the bloody linux kernel07:00
Ngstewski: so you'd need to enable a root password to be able to do it07:00
obscuriteopenssh-server, rather07:00
Siph0nneone have issues where if u play a dvd in VLC, and close VLC, the sound still plays?07:00
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vectoralphastewski, joy, i recompiled my kernel three times yesterday07:00
tristanAlexO : it should be something that is illogical compared to other line. Not different like the universe is changed by multiverse... There should only a slight difference07:00
stewskiNg well I dont want to log in as root exactly, Is it possible to keep my session but with root privaledges07:00
bur[n] erstewski: sudo07:01
HymnToLifeSiph0n > which audio output engine do you use ?07:01
AlexOam I in the right place? im in sources.list (/etc/apt) - gedit07:01
Ngstewski: you could copy your home directory into /root/ maybe, but generally that'd be quite a manual and painful process, why do ou want to?07:01
obscuriteAnyone have any idea why apt-get would be prompting me to insert a cdrom to install openssh-server on Breezy?07:01
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vectoralphastewski, what are you trying to do as root?, why would you want them full in your session07:01
Ngobscurite: you need to set up some internet apt sources07:01
stewskino bur[n] er Im after a way to use my sesion (probably mostly nautilus) as root07:01
bur[n] erobscurite: and remove the cd rom line in sources07:02
stewskiI currently sudo nautlius07:02
obscuriteNg - oh, is there just no source for that one package?07:02
Jowiobscurite: you can comment out the cdrom in /etc/apt/sources.list07:02
zandaaWHY???07:02
obscuriteNg - first package I couldn't find in my sources so far :)07:02
bur[n] erstewski: and what's wrong with that? :)07:02
tristanAlexO : copy your source.list text. Go to http://pastebin.com/ and paste it and tell me when it's done07:02
obscuriteburner, Jowi, thanks07:02
Ngobscurite: comment out the cdrom one and enable universe/multiverse and you should be fine :)07:02
obscuriteNg, gotcha07:02
stewskiwell it runs an ugly root preferenced version of nautlius07:02
Jowiobscurite: don't forget to "sudo apt-get update" afterwards07:02
bur[n] erfor the record, universe/multiverse isn't "free" persay07:02
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vectoralphastewski: why do you want to run that as root?07:03
bur[n] erstewski: sudo gnome-theme-manager07:03
Ngbur[n] er: plenty of it is07:03
Ngbur[n] er: like, much of universe is07:03
AlexOok I sent it07:03
Jowistewski: no need to run the theme-manager as root07:03
bur[n] erNg: let me rephrase... universe/multiverse isn't completely free :)07:03
stewskibecuase Im moving files that needs root access vectoralpha07:03
stewskiand guys can I tell you a joke07:04
bur[n] erJowi: how would you put different icons on a root nautilus?07:04
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obscuriteI'm all set, thanks for the sources.list help07:04
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stewskiI went to the doctor and said doctor doctor it hurts when I lift my left arm he said "dont lift your left arm" :-)07:04
gobfreycan someone helpme with a CD that won't mount?07:04
Jowibur[n] er: no idea, not using gnome or nautilus. Rox-Filer is so much quicker07:04
chrisx1haha. not funny ya know:P07:04
vectoralphastewski: you do that on a regular enough basis to want an easier way...?, i would just do it all through console, but that is just me07:04
sladengobfrey: what doesn't work?07:05
zandaais there a flash-plugin installer which works on 64-bit systems?07:05
bur[n] ernautilus is so much more featureful than rox though07:05
tristanAlexO : ok. On line 37 there is eb-src. It should be deb-src07:05
tristanAlexO : After, everything will be OK07:05
stewskiwell vectoralpha there is a lot to be said for slowing down root file access/moves and making yourself think without a gui tis true07:05
AlexOalright i'll try it : D07:05
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Jowichrisx1: i went to the doctor in ireland and said i was feeling ill, feverish. doctor told me to "drink lots of fluids - like sprite or cola" : no joke :-/07:05
AlexOyay07:05
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AlexOthank you tristan!07:06
gobfreysladen Other CDs mount OK, but this one doesn't.  It works OK in my dad's windows machine.  In the Disks Manager, when I click on 'enable' I get this message: Couldn't find "/tmp/disks-conf-hda".07:06
EggplantHello all07:06
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chrisx1lmfao07:06
chrisx1doctors suck07:06
tristanAlexO : you were able to save the file?07:06
bur[n] erstewski: sudo apt-get install tango-icon-theme ;)  that's how I make nautilus look pretty07:06
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AlexOyeah, and the add applictions works fine now :D07:06
stewskilol cheers bur[n] er07:06
gobfreysladen:  when I say mount I mean appear on the desktop and in the file browser07:06
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sladengobfrey: interesting.07:06
tristanAlexO : so you're done and I'm done07:06
stewskicatch u guys later have a good eve/day07:06
AlexOyep, thanks again07:06
tristanI going back home. See you07:06
chrisx1Jowi, my dad asked for a doctor to come see him cos hes disabled n cant get out + it was cold they said no theres ppl worse than you at this moment 3 days later he died in hospital07:06
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sladengobfrey: does it mount or give you an error message from the commandline?07:07
obscuriteAnyone know of a network config tool that works well in breezy that supports WPA setup? the default tool only does WEP sadly.07:07
chrisx1no joke there07:07
concept10!info firefox07:07
ubotufirefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.0.7-0ubuntu20 (breezy), Packaged size: 8268 kB, Installed size: 23932 kB07:07
gobfreysladen how do I mount it from the command line?07:07
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tristanAlexO : btw : are you an english canadian speaker or french canadian speaker?07:07
Jowichrisx1: that's sad man07:07
sladenobscurite: WPA requires faffing and certain combination of hardware at the moment07:07
AlexOenglish07:07
chrisx1Jowi, i coulda slapped them stupid07:07
AlexOwhy do you ask?07:07
sladengobfrey: sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/hda /mnt07:07
concept10I guess firefox 1.5 is not avail for breezy in the repos?07:07
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chrisx1Jowi, im only 15 he could of been better if they had come out07:08
bur[n] erconcept10: nope07:08
obscuritesladen: okay, so it's al inux issue and not a crappy config tool issue?07:08
bur[n] erconcept10: possibly backports?07:08
sladenconcept10: no07:08
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gobfreymount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda,07:08
Seveasconcept10, of course not07:08
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chrisx1Jowi, me to:P07:08
bur[n] ergobfrey: /dev/hda == your hard drive07:08
tristanAlexO : OK. Just one ittle thing to end. When speaking specifically to someone you should ask his name in thr sentence. That way it apperas in red on his screen. It is easier to follow up that way.07:08
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concept10Ive ben running it for months , but I want to uninstall 1.0707:08
chrisx1Jowi, stil installing like the 600+ packages07:08
tristanAlexO : because I am French so I was wondering.07:08
EggplantIs this the place to get help for the live cd or does that have its own channel?07:08
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sladenobscurite: WPA is an utter pain with Linux at the moment.  Search for 'wpa' on the wiki for some pointers07:09
AlexOtristan : like this?07:09
Jowichrisx1: yep, that will take a while.07:09
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chrisx1is the forefox 1.5 avalible for ubuntu yet?07:09
obscuritesladen: thanks07:09
tristanAlexO : yes. I see the sentence in red that way07:09
chrisx1*Fire07:09
Jowibbl all :)07:09
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chrisx1Cya Jowi07:09
tristanAlexO : see this is red for you07:09
tristanAnd not this07:09
Seveaschrisx1, only in dapper, probably never in breezy07:09
gobfreyburner: hda is my CDROM07:09
chrisx1owk07:09
chrisx1*ok*07:09
bur[n] ergobfrey: u sure?  absolutely sure?07:09
AlexOtristan : ok i'll remeber that next time I need help, thanks again07:09
gobfreymy HDs are sda07:09
zandaawhere's the firefox plugin directory?07:09
chrisx1!windows07:09
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ubotu[windows]  unnecessary, everything runs in Linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office or find an !alternative, or what you remove to make room for kubuntu07:09
tristanBye girls and boys07:09
bur[n] ergobfrey: aww... sata hard drives?07:09
Siph0nHymnToLife, im not sure, how do i find out?07:10
gobfreyburner: I'm looking at it in the disks manager07:10
chrisx1!ntfs07:10
ubotuwell, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions07:10
concept10Seveas, are you running on dapper?07:10
gobfreyburner yes, sata drives07:10
chrisx1is dapper avalible on cd yet?07:10
bur[n] ergobfrey: i am not sure what to do then... i'm sorry  "sudo mount /dev/hda /media/hda" ??07:10
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bur[n] erchrisx1: no07:10
=== bur[n] er is running dapper
chrisx1bur[n] er, its not released yet?07:10
bur[n] erchrisx1: not for about 5 months07:11
gobfreyI think there's a problem with the CD and windows is more forgiving than ubuntu perhaps...07:11
chrisx1how come u got it bur[n] er :o07:11
bur[n] ergobfrey: possibly07:11
gobfreyburner: is there a more forgiving way to mount a CD?07:11
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bur[n] erchrisx1: i am using the dapper repositories... i wouldn't suggest it... it's bound to break things until it's released in 5 months07:11
zandaawhere's the firefox plugin directory?07:11
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chrisx1k07:11
concept10chrisx1, apt - but dont install without knowing what might happen07:12
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bur[n] erzandaa: .mozilla/plugins07:12
chrisx1im still installing 5.1007:12
chrisx1:P07:12
tritiumzandaa, dpkg -L <packagename> will list the files in a package07:12
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russell__Can someone help. I have a wireless usb dongle, I have it working but everytime I restart I have to modprobe again for it to mount. Anyone have any suggestions?07:12
tritiumrussell__, add the module name to /etc/modules07:12
bur[n] errussell__: technically modprobe isn't "mounting" but what i would do is add that module to /etc/modules07:12
zandaabur[n] er, where can I find these in the structure?07:12
bur[n] erzandaa: ~/.mozilla/plugins07:13
russell__ok thanks I will give that a try.07:13
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chrisx1closin xchat till its finished07:13
chrisx1cya ppl07:13
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tck_hey peeps07:13
tck_the Terminal Server Client that comes with ubnutu by default07:14
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tck_how does one enable the 'ICA' option07:14
tck_i see RDP and VNC07:14
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zandaabur[n] er, I must be retarted, but there's no such directories07:14
vectoralphatck_: ica?07:14
FirecrackerHi guys, small issue, I just installed Breezy but  my 3d card does not work and I have installed the fglrx driver in synaptic :( any ideas?07:14
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tck_citrix07:14
vectoralphaFirecracker: how new is the card?07:15
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Firecrackervectoralpha, its a 920007:15
russell__How do I edit the module?  I am a noob so be easy.07:15
Firecrackerits worked before, but this time its not07:15
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vectoralphaFirecracker: any errors from X?07:15
czr_I must say, I'm pretty impressed with the upgrade from .04 to .1007:15
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czr_even my root on LVM survived quite nicely :-)07:16
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Firecrackerhmm, dont know, but fgl_glxgears  gives me X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)07:16
czr_does anyone know which package contains the online ext2-resizing tool?07:16
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Firecrackervectoralpha, does the xorg file need to have fglrx in it, at the moment its got ATI07:18
vectoralphaFirecracker: yes, it does need fglrx in it07:18
HymnToLifeif you want to use the fglrx drivers, it's better to have it, yes07:19
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russell__The directions I am following here. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/zd1211wifi07:19
vectoralphaFirecracker:  try running fglrxconfig in console07:19
Firecrackervectoralpha, I thought the deb installed changed that automaticly as I have never needed to do it manually on ubuntu, debian and other distros yes07:19
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tritium!tell Firecracker about ati07:20
Firecrackertritium, ok ill try that and restart and come back and let ya know07:21
tritiumok07:22
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russell__states that I need to add a line break to zd1211 any ideas on how to add the line break?07:22
QRZrussell__:  Edit the module?  No, just add it to your /etc/modules file with, "echo 'module_name' >> /etc/modules" or you can open up /etc/modules in a text editor and add it that way.  Either way will accomplish the same thing.  :-)07:23
russell__Thanks07:23
LoPMXFUCK UBUNTU! (joking)07:23
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FireCrackertritium, Hey there, it worked, thanks for the heads up07:24
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learnfromscratchhow do i config make to report only errors ?07:24
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anatolehi, i have a strange problem with my new comp07:27
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anatolemy ubuntu can't see the cdrom drives... nothing in /dev07:27
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anatoleand the livecd says that no cdrom drives can be found07:27
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Mabus06live cd says no cdrom drives can be found? that sounds rather screwy07:28
anatoleyep... funny07:28
Russel-Athletic_one question: is the ubuntu distributed version of alsa capable of using jackplug out of the box?07:28
Mabus06you'd think if that were the case you'd have a hard time even getting that error message07:28
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Mabus06But not to give you false hope, anatole... no idea07:28
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AlexOI just removed my bottem panal by mistake, how do I get it back?07:32
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smoI don't think there's any magic 'undo' function, but you can create a new one by right-clicking the top panel .. you'll have to drag it into place and populate it yourself tho07:32
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sladenAlexO: was the a big question box saying ''are you sure?''07:34
sladenAlexO: if not, can you file it as a bug/suggestion thatthere really ought to be07:34
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AlexOok i figured it out, nevermind : P07:35
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slashx1896Hey all07:37
disposable_mikehey slash07:37
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slashx1896HEy07:38
slashx1896can u play07:38
slashx1896Halo 1 on ubuntu?07:38
slashx1896if i install it07:38
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disposable_mikenot unless it's under VMWare or a similar emulation environment, somethign that I would highly not recommended07:38
disposable_mikeas far as i know, there's not a native linux version07:38
slashx1896:\07:39
slashx1896i need to dual boot..07:39
ZenHelp--Need to install the gcc package using version 3.4 instead of 4.007:39
slashx1896that means i have to go lookin for my windows CD07:39
slashx1896:\07:39
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kentoqEvenings.07:39
kentoqIs there anyone available to help me with mounting maybe.? :D07:39
jgrievesZen sudo apt-get install gcc-3.407:39
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ernstpIt could work in wine which is not an emulation environment. if you have an nvidia card at least07:39
jgrievesthen export CC=gcc-3.4 before compiling07:39
ernstpslashx1896: that was to you btw07:39
jgrievesZen then export CC=gcc-3.4 before compiling07:40
Zenjgrieves, how?07:40
ogawhat graphic server(err. something like that) is used in ubuntu? Xorg?07:40
jgrievesZen you are compiling correct?07:40
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slashx1896ernstp: i have nvidia07:40
Zenjgrieves, I need to compile a video driver--requires gcc 3.4 since kernel was made with 3.407:40
slashx1896card07:40
jgrievesZen you have already gotten build-essential?07:41
jgrievesoga Xorg07:41
Zenjgrieves, no--will do so07:41
slashx1896ernstp: well i remember having it when i was on xp.. do i still have it that i installed ubntu?07:41
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ogajgrieves, okay. what is used in freebsd?07:41
disposable_mikeslashnx1896: your nvidia card?07:41
jgrievesorga X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.207:42
jgrieves07:42
Zenjgrieves, I do now.07:42
slashx1896i remember downloading something for nvidia i dunno if i lost it07:42
jgrievesZen sudo apt-get gcc-3.407:42
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Zenjgrieves, I've got it already07:42
jgrievesorga search freebsd07:42
disposable_mikei think jgrieves is asking if you have an nvidia video card07:42
kandoora_what's the difference between linux and BSD07:42
jgrievesZen in terminal navigate to source07:42
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slashx1896i think i do..07:42
disposable_mikethat was meant for slash07:42
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Zenjgrieves, where is it stored07:42
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slashx1896how do i find out :P i dont remember07:43
ernstpslashx1896: did you have halo on xp? but installed linux now?07:43
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jgrievesZen where did oy udownload thesource07:43
slashx1896no07:43
slashx1896and when i installed linux, i detled my windows xp parittion07:43
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Zenjgrieves, It is a .run file that does it automatically (source is compressed in the .run)07:43
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jgrievesZen in terminal type "export CC=gcc-3.407:43
ernstpslashx1896: ok. but you have an Nvidia card in you box?07:43
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slashx1896ernstp: i think how do i check if i do? w/o opening anything07:44
skierkegaardcan anyone help me with rhythmbox?07:44
aoniccdoes anyone have experience with x server problems?07:44
ernstpslashx1896: w/o opening anything? huh?07:44
slashx1896my box07:44
slashx1896lol07:44
slashx1896like is there somewhere i can go where it tells me info on my video card and stuff07:44
Zenjgrieves, I should be good to go then?07:44
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ernstpskierkegaard: apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse if you have multiverse enabled07:45
skierkegaardis it enabled by default?07:45
ernstpskierkegaard: ...is probably the answer to you troubles07:45
ernstpslashx1896: yeah, lot's of places07:46
jgrievesZen try to run it07:46
slashx1896how07:46
jgrievesok07:46
ernstpslashx1896: open a terminal and run lspci for example07:47
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slashx1896im pritty sure i have nvidia but i wanna double chck,07:47
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slashx1896i dont se anything about video07:48
ernstpskierkegaard: nope, it's not. it contains stuff ubuntu can't redistribute by default (license issues)07:48
skierkegaardoh07:48
ernstpslashx1896: Display controller?07:48
slashx1896ernstp: nope,07:48
ernstpskierkegaard: like mp3 codecs. guessing that's what you have trouble with?07:48
skierkegaardi get "unable to lock the administration directory"07:48
skierkegaardwhen i run your command07:49
ernstpslashx1896: VGA ... ?07:49
slashx1896ya07:49
ernstpskierkegaard: ah, right. type that again but with sudo first07:49
slashx1896VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV25 [GeForce4 Ti 420 0]  (rev a3)07:49
skierkegaardi have trouble with internet streams07:49
slashx1896so yeah ido07:49
skierkegaard.pls files07:49
ernstpskierkegaard: or start synaptic, that's much easier07:49
skierkegaardits listed in the synaptic?07:50
ernstpskierkegaard: can you play mp3's?07:50
ernstpskierkegaard: yeah, everything's there07:50
skierkegaardi guess i have not tried07:50
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzwhat's the command for debian to ubtuntu?07:50
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smoIs there any way to convert an openoffice document to doc/rtf/html/txt without X?07:50
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Belutzhow to play .3gp files on linux?07:50
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ernstpMrB|zzZZzzZZzz: what does that mean?07:50
ernstpBelutz: try totem-xine07:51
jgrieveschanging sources.list to breezy07:51
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzdebian to ubutnu, there is a command to switch to ubuntu with a debina install07:51
jgrievesbut this is not recommended07:51
Belutzernstp, ok, thanks07:51
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzdebian*07:51
smoMrB|zzZZzzZZzz: I believe there's something in the release notes for warty, converting debian woody to ubuntu warty.  I'm not sure it's been tried/tested/recommended with any later releases07:51
jgrievesMrB|zzZZzzZZzz there is documentation on it07:51
jgrieves!debian07:51
ubotuDebian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded"; see http://www.debian.org Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9.  Debian and Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/07:51
ernstpMrB|zzZZzzZZzz: there's no such command.07:51
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzyes, they told me yesterday07:51
ernstpMrB|zzZZzzZZzz: you could do it if you're good. but it's not a single command07:51
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzin this channel07:51
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MrB|zzZZzzZZzzit was 1 command07:52
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MrB|zzZZzzZZzzapt-get somehting07:52
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ernstpMrB|zzZZzzZZzz: cool. tell me if you find out.07:52
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MrB|zzZZzzZZzzsure thing07:52
jgrievesernstp i have seen people recommend changign sources.list07:52
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jgrievesernstp not sure how well it turned out :)07:52
rudiztry googling it07:53
ernstpjgrieves: should work if you haven't got too much installed... and know how to solve conflicts with apt07:53
Niomihow do i restart/reload the synaptics touchpad driver from CLI?07:53
jgrievesernstp yes07:53
skierkegaardernstp, im not finding anything on rhythmbox in synaptic07:53
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzi have the changes need for source.list07:53
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzi just need the command, lol07:53
jgrievesMrB|zzZZzzZZzz apt-get update07:53
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jgrievesMrB|zzZZzzZZzz apt-get dist-upgrade07:53
jgrievesMrB|zzZZzzZZzz pray07:54
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzthat's it07:54
jgrieves:)07:54
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smochanging your sources.list and apt-get'n ubuntu-desktop may get somewhere close .. or it may give your machine multiple-personality disorder.  I'm not sure I'd want to discover which07:54
ernstpskierkegaard: why are you looking for that? :-P you should be looking for gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse07:54
IzzyDoes anyone have a few minutes to point me in the right direction to learn how to upgrade my php4 and mysql 4 to 5? (Im a very new user, sorry)07:54
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzwell, i have debina and knoppix, if all goes wrong, i can reinstall07:54
jgrievesMrB|zzZZzzZZzz i believe this has been addressed on the fourms07:54
skierkegaardoh07:54
jgrievesMrB|zzZZzzZZzz not sure if that post is around07:54
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzi know, i posted it on the forums07:54
jgrievesMrB|zzZZzzZZzz may provide common depedency or package errors07:54
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzubuntuforums.org right?07:54
jgrievesy07:54
ernstpskierkegaard: gstreamer is something like quicktime. that's what really plays your music07:54
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ernstpIzzy: try #mysql ...?07:55
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzi ordered 5 ubtunu cds, but someoen sdaid they take months to get here07:55
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MrB|zzZZzzZZzzand i live in memphis TN, so,. heh07:55
skierkegaardi found it, installing now07:55
Izzyernstp thought it was an apt-get type thing in ubuntu or something?07:56
jgrievesMrB|zzZZzzZZzz heh07:56
ernstpskierkegaard: then you had multiverse enabled, good. pice of cake07:56
skierkegaardthanks, ill give it another try in a bit then07:57
SeveasMr_Milenko, 4 to 6 weeks...07:57
SeveasMrB|zzZZzzZZzz*07:57
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzernstp07:57
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=10109807:57
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzgo there for the command i was looking for07:57
ernstpIzzy: uh, sure. or you could search for mysql in synaptic07:57
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzhe explaines how to do it07:57
crimsunMrB: it really depends on the queue. Sometimes they arrive quickly.07:57
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzwhat does?07:57
=== psusi doesn't udnerstand why people order batches of cds... why not just download and burn one?
ernstpMrB|zzZZzzZZzz: mm, I understand now. but that involves many steps, like changing your sources list. that's why I didn't understand you07:57
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzno cds burner07:57
psusisome people still don't have cd burners in this day and age?07:58
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzi do, no cds07:58
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MrB|zzZZzzZZzzno money to buy cds either.07:58
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzheh07:58
psusithey are like $0.30 each07:58
lotiais acl support enabled for all filesystems in breezy?07:58
lotiathe default breezy kernel07:59
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzthink this will mess up my KDE?07:59
smopsusi, I usually manage to hand out atleast as many as I order .. a professionally done package makes a lot of difference creating a first impression  (software on a cdr witha  handwritten label makes most people think it's stolen)07:59
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzlol07:59
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psusismo: hrm... good point07:59
psusismo: but that's why you explain to them that it is FREE ;)07:59
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzheh, stolen pr0n is free to08:00
ernstppsusi: everyone don't get that actually :-)08:00
psusino... free as in freedom, not free as in stollen or free beer08:00
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzyou mean open-source?08:00
psusiaye08:00
Alexopen source pr0n? o_O08:00
psusilol08:01
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ogayeah, everybody can contribute08:01
ogahaha08:01
crimsunlotia: for all but nfs v3, yes.08:01
lotiathanks crimsun08:01
slashx1896well i dont have halo with me atm, when i get the cd il come back08:02
slashx1896bye al;08:02
ernstpAlex: well if the source, is open...08:02
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RoeyAlex:  "you're not a fully compliant porn actress, good bye"08:03
Seveastake this to #ubuntu-offtopic please - #ubuntu is a support channel08:03
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Roeydoes Xen run on Ubuntu08:04
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Roey?08:04
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzgah08:04
RoeyDoes Xen run on Ubuntu with kernel 2.6.14.3 at all, anyone know?08:04
RoeyI'm so disillusioned with it.08:04
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzhow do i edit sources.list without being in root?08:04
Roeysudo08:04
Roeyuse sudo.08:04
SeveasRoey, you need a homegrown kernel08:04
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzi don't know how08:04
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzform console08:04
RoeySeveas:  I don't know if Xen patches exist for 2.6.14.3 though08:04
RoeySeveas:  do they?08:04
SeveasMrB|zzZZzzZZzz, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list08:04
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SeveasRoey, -ENOCLUE; never tried xen08:04
Roeygnomefreak:  ;)08:04
RoeySeveas:  got it, thanks08:05
Roeygnomefreak:  try KDE08:05
TTilusMrB|zzZZzzZZzz: you dont want to be able to edit your sources.list without having root privileges08:05
Roeygnomefreak:  you'll hate gnome with a passion then, too.08:05
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzsudo command not found08:05
TTilusMrB|zzZZzzZZzz: sudoedit /etc/apt/sources.list08:05
smoCan somebody recommend an openoffice channel? my client appears to be truncating /list to 12 characters, so I have a list of several "#openoffice." to pick from08:05
Seveas#openoffice.org08:05
smoI should have guessed the obvious :/  thanks08:06
Seveas:)08:06
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzsudoedit: command not found08:06
SeveasMrB|zzZZzzZZzz, are you on an Ubuntu system?08:06
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzno, i am trinyg to switch to a ubuntu system08:06
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzlol08:06
SeveasIf so, how did you manage to mess it up08:06
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzuseing apt-get08:06
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzfrom debian08:07
Seveasright, cross-grading debian to ubuntu takes a lot of knowledge08:07
TTilusMrB|zzZZzzZZzz: not recommended i think08:07
Seveasit's neither easy nor recommended or supported08:07
MrB|zzZZzzZZzznot really, it expline in 3 steps, heh08:07
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzexplained*08:07
gnomefreakRoey, gnome doesnt resemble windows at all08:07
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TTilusMrB|zzZZzzZZzz: you are way better of by installing ubuntu from scratch08:07
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BadMackTuckhas anyone in here gotten cedega to work? what was that experience like? i found the wiki im just looking for a testimonial08:07
SeveasMrB|zzZZzzZZzz, that's nonsense08:07
Roeygnomefreak:  it has its own issues.08:08
SeveasDebian -> Ubuntu was only supported for woody->warty08:08
TTilusMrB|zzZZzzZZzz: transfering config should not be major PITA because of common inheritage08:08
Seveasand it's now a PITA08:08
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crimsunyou can cross-grade from sarge to breezy08:08
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Seveascrimsun, but not without knowledge of apt/dpkg08:08
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzi am going to breezy08:08
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Seveaswoody->wart was relatively easy08:09
crimsunSeveas: true08:09
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gnomefreakRoey, i havent had any issues with it i have been using linux alone for 8 months give or take and had to install windows for school :(08:09
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MrB|zzZZzzZZzzand i know how to use apt-get08:09
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SeveasMrB|zzZZzzZZzz, that's not nearly enough08:09
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Roeygnomefreak:  well look you can learn a lot from Windows to08:09
Roeytoo08:09
LewixI've downloaded the dvd iso of ubuntu,burn and check the image with md5sum, boot my laptop toshiba M45-S169 with it but when I type enter , it loads up some files and the screen goes black. I've been trying to find a solution for 4days now but nobody came with a solution,even in forums (I'm a newbie)08:10
Roeygnomefreak:  It makes me happy that you're happy08:10
czr_there's nothing worth learning in windows since you're knowledge will become obsolete in 3 years08:10
czr_your even08:10
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Roeyczr_:  er08:10
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SeveasLewix, acpi=off at the boot prompt08:10
Roeyczr_:  "transition support services"08:10
TTilusLewix: do other distros work?  tried any (other) live-cd distros?08:10
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Lewixknoppix08:10
Lewixworks08:10
czr_Roey, well, that was just my opinion based on low-level windows stuff08:11
Seveasczr_, this is neither a linux advocacy nor a windows bashing channel...08:11
KyralKnoppix is the Admin's swiss army hammer08:11
Roeyczr_:  don't forget that MS thinks ahead of time of bolstering the US tech economy by creating entire markets to solve Windows' problems.08:11
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzcan ubuntu fit on 1 cdrw?08:11
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzi may be able to burn it, heh08:11
KyralMrB|zzZZzzZZzz: yes08:11
Roeyczr_:  that sentence came out mangled but still08:11
SeveasMrB|zzZZzzZZzz, yes08:11
czr_Seveas, agreed, no one answered my question though which was related to ubuntu :-)08:11
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzwhat iso do i need?08:11
Seveasczr_, the question being?08:11
gnomefreakMrB|zzZZzzZZzz, yes08:11
KyralMrB|zzZZzzZZzz: depends on what you want08:11
TTilusLewix: check differences in kernel config and boot params08:11
LewixSeveas: acpi=off?08:11
SeveasMrB|zzZZzzZZzz, the install iso for your architecture08:12
czr_the question being which package to look for the online ext2 resizing tool in ubuntu08:12
gnomefreaksorry i have lag :(08:12
LewixTTilus: I'm really a newbie08:12
TTilusLewix: boot parameters08:12
TTilusLewix: go google08:12
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzis the install cd bootable?08:12
Kyralczr_: ext2resize08:12
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzor do i need lfoppies?08:12
Seveasczr_, online ext2 resizing? afaik that's not possible and you have to unmount08:12
KyralMrB|zzZZzzZZzz: yes08:12
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SeveasMrB|zzZZzzZZzz, it's bootable08:12
Opethi cant boot the cd08:12
czr_Seveas, I've done it many times on RHEL4, it's possible08:12
gnomefreakMrB|zzZZzzZZzz, install cd is bootable08:12
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MrB|zzZZzzZZzzdoes it have a partionign tool in the installer, becasue i will need it08:12
LewixI've tried vga=771 but instead og going black it loads up files and an erro message appears08:12
Seveasczr_, what's the command?08:13
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czr_ext2resize on RHEL408:13
czr_Kyral, which package does it come in?08:13
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TalkyHello guys!08:13
czr_apt-cache search draws blanks for me08:13
Kyralczr_: that IS the package08:13
LewixTTilus: trust me, I've been on google for 4days08:13
Seveasapt-file search is running here08:13
czr_hmm. in universe?08:13
gnomefreakczr_, RHEL4 uses ext2 ubuntu breezy uses ext3 :)08:13
Seveasyeah, package is called ext2resize08:13
TTilusczr_: was it a supported and recommended way of doing it or were you just lucky  :)08:13
Kyralczr_: yes08:13
BadMackTucknobody has experience with cedega?08:13
Seveasgnomefreak, ext3 == ext2+journal08:13
KyralBadMackTuck: I do08:13
czr_gnomefreak, ext3 =ext2 + journalling08:13
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Seveas!info ext2resize08:14
ubotuext2resize: (an ext2 filesystem resizer), section universe/admin, is extra. Version: 1.1.19-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 200 kB, Installed size: 484 kB08:14
Kyralext3 == ext2++ :D08:14
Seveasuniverse indeed08:14
Lewixerror message saying that I didn't set up my xserver08:14
gnomefreakah08:14
czr_TTilus, supported and recommended. there's even a graphical tool for it in rhel408:14
Talkyi want to know how can i authenticate through ISA proxy08:14
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djm62Kyral: you mean ++ext2?08:14
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Kyraldjm62: lol08:14
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TTilusLewix: definitely, go google "linux boot prompt howto"08:14
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Gethow to convert ogg -> mp3?08:14
BadMackTuckkyral, how well does it work and do you use it a lot08:15
TTilusGet: why?08:15
psusiGet: you don't want to08:15
slashx1896Hey, how do i burn a mp3 cd? (so i can get like 100 songs on 1 cd) on nero u have a choice for normal audio cd adn a mp3 cd how do i do it on linud08:15
gouchiHi08:15
slashx1896linux08:15
KyralBadMackTuck: "How"?08:15
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gouchidoes someone succeed to get worky labtec pro webcam ?08:15
KyralBadMackTuck: Its basically Wine patched with DX08:15
gnomefreakLewix,  run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to fix you x-server config08:15
psusislashx1896: just drag and drop the files to the cd08:15
TTilusslashx1896: data cd08:15
KyralBadMackTuck: but you need to pay for it08:15
czr_actually I remembered incorrectly. it's called ext2online in RHEL08:15
Getpsusi, I need it to my mp3-player08:15
gouchiI try with gnomemeeting but it freezes :(08:15
gouchirunning Breezy08:15
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slashx1896TTIlus: so just put all of them on a data cd (this is to transfer songs from my computer to a dif one)08:16
BadMackTuckKyral: yeah i figured id have to pay for it. but is it worth it?08:16
TTilusslashx1896: yes08:16
czr_it's fairly new, LVM2/dm-supporting version came only in RHEL4u2 (some months ago)08:16
slashx1896kk08:16
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psusiGet: what kind of mp3 player do you have?  most support ogg these days, but you might have to upgrade the software in it... you will loose quality going from ogg to mp308:16
TTilusslashx1896: "mp3 cd" is just that simple thing08:16
TTilusGet: bad player  :)08:16
KyralBadMackTuck: In my experiance it so far plays Jedi Academy, Half-Life, and Need For Speed Underground 2 at native08:16
TalkyCan anybody answer my query08:16
djm62psusi: they do?08:16
slashx1896TTilus: where do i drag them to again? i08:16
slashx1896i forgot08:17
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BadMackTuckKyral: good to know, rumor has it hl2 works pretty well, and if i can get that, eve and warcraft 3 working then i should be set. thank you08:17
slashx1896psusi: where do i drag them? ///??? i forgot :\08:17
jdiertalky - what is query?08:18
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Talkyi want to know how can i authenticate through ISA proxy08:18
slashx1896nvm08:18
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slashx1896burn:///08:18
Talkyjdier08:18
hmpedersenhi08:18
czr_talky, use a browser that knows how to talk NTLM08:18
hmpedersenHow would i go about finding libqt3c102-mt ?08:19
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czr_kyral, thanks, found it. it contains the ext2online tool08:19
Talkyczr_, you know that there is ISA firewall client in MS... think there might be similar thing in ubuntu08:19
kemik!tell hmpedersen about skype08:19
czr_should probably compare whether RH has done something to theirs since they actually support it08:20
Kyralczr_: np, this is what we are here for08:20
czr_ISA firewall client for ubuntu? hehe08:20
Talkyno?08:20
czr_microsoft doesn't support linux08:20
Talkylol i am asking about vice versa :)08:20
KyralIts called us reverse engineering them :D08:20
hmpedersenkemik: Thanx08:21
MWettendorffis here any one here that can be my teacher om how to operate a MySQl?08:21
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KyralMWettendorff: MySQL is a very big thing...08:21
czr_talky, I've never ran across any info about microsoft releasing any info about their implementation08:21
czr_although I haven't looked for couple of years, I don't support MS-systems anymore08:21
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kemikhmpedersen:  we've all been in skype-hell ;)08:21
MWettendorffKyral: i know.. but i need to learn how to make a DB and uses for that.08:22
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kemikto install mysql in ubuntu is no biggie08:22
Talkywell i want to connect through ISA server installed on our Web Server through unbuntu on my PC08:22
Talkyczr_08:22
slashx1896So i drag all my music files to burn:/// and then it will play them on my other computer?08:22
KyralMWettendorff: I'm taking a class right now lol. I have to finish my DB actually08:22
bodkinhi guys why is my ipp service on port 631 activated every 2 to 3 seconds08:22
kemikand setting up a basic webserver with php&mysql isnt a biggie either08:22
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czr_talky, I'm sorry for you :-). You need to setup ISA so that it will allow other clients than just ISA firewall clients trough it08:23
Kyralbodkin: I believe that is CUPS>08:23
djm62slashx1896: are you burning a data CD with mp3s on it08:23
czr_Talky, try googling, maybe it will work better08:23
kemikMWettendorff:  do you know anything about SQL ?08:23
slashx1896Yes, i wanna transfer it to my other computer running windows XP08:23
MWettendorffKyral: LoL. then teach me teacher :)08:23
bodkintks  ow can i stop it every 3 seconds08:23
djm62slashx1896: then drag to burn:/// and burn away08:23
slashx1896alrite08:23
slashx1896so i did it rite08:23
Talkyok thnx czr_ :).. i'll do that..08:23
czr_bodkin, probably some graphical printer monitoring tool that is checking the status of your printers?08:24
evianI'm trying to get ubuntu going for my dad, who has a lucent winmodem. Does breezy have the ltmodem driver in restricted modules like it says it does for hoary on the wiki? Because I can't seem to find it.08:24
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AIVgood day everyone08:24
MWettendorffKemik: i have no idear what im doing.. i doing some webpage test, and they need a DB08:24
slashx1896wtf its saying enter blank cd when one is entered08:24
bodkinok tks for the quick reply will go off and check tks again08:24
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evianThis is the wiki entry: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WinModemLucent?highlight=%28lucent%2908:25
djm62evian: apt-cache search ltmodem gives packages08:25
gnomefreakisnt there a mysql wiki out there?08:25
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzcan one of you help me with the installtion?, i can't use the deafult installtion08:25
evianok I'll try that djm62 thanks08:25
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MrB|zzZZzzZZzzi have to keep ubuntu + kde under 2GB, heh08:25
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slashx1896it wont let me burn08:27
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slashx1896whats the maxiumum number of songs i can put? on the dat cd08:27
manubuntuhey every body ... i m looking for a cool programm to cut videos ... KIno always crashes!!!! :(.. some one have an idear ????08:27
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collindercan someone help me... i have 2 monitors that i want to work and the "secondary" one is the only one that works... and to boot... i cant figure out how to get nvidia to get along with ubuntu...08:28
evianok it says that linux-restricted-modules does contain ltmodem and that it is installed, but if I do "sudo modprobe lt_modem" like the wiki entry says it gives "FATAL: Module lt_modem not found."08:29
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zandaa!mpr08:30
ubotuzandaa: Syntax error in line 108:30
zandaa!mp308:30
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ubotump3 is, like, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:30
slashx1896Hello anyone? its saying m cd cant hold 926 MiB08:30
manubuntusome one knows good programm to cut videos ..??? kino always crashes08:30
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MrB|zzZZzzZZzzcds don't hold 926mb08:31
Taa5i!megaraid08:31
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, Taa5i08:31
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MrB|zzZZzzZZzzthe hold 700MB08:31
Taa5i!netraid08:31
ubotuTaa5i: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?08:31
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzyou need a dvd08:31
Taa5i!raid08:31
ubotuit has been said that raid is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto08:31
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collinder!nvidia08:31
ubotunvidia is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736808:31
collinder!nvidia for 5.108:31
AIVhow do I check my version of Ubuntu?08:32
collinder!dual screen08:32
ubotucollinder: I give up, what is it?08:32
AIVis there some way maybe in a term window08:32
slashx1896ugh with nero i could make a 1000 song mp3 disc.. with this it wont even let me make a 187 song cd08:32
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MrB|zzZZzzZZzzCDs don't hold 927MB08:32
gnomefreakanyone have the webpage with the tar for links2?08:32
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzyou need aDVD08:32
Falstiusslashx1896: you like your music really fuzzy?08:33
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slashx1896when i was running windows XP i had 100s of songs on  1 mp3 cd that only my mp3 player and computers could read..08:33
czr_slashx1896, mp3 can be coded at various bitrates. with 1000 songs per CD, the bitrate was really small -> small files -> more of them on CD08:33
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evianAIV: I think "cat /proc/version"08:33
czr_the 700 MB for compressed data is really the max (more or less)08:33
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MrB|zzZZzzZZzzall my mp3 are maximum bitrate, heh08:34
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collinder!!monitors08:34
ubotucollinder: I give up, what is it?08:34
collinder!monitors08:34
ubotucollinder: Did you get hit by a windmill?08:34
collinderyes08:34
collinderall the time08:34
slashx1896then how come using nero on windows xp it let me add 200 songs to a CD but it wont using this, is there nero for linux?08:34
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MrB|zzZZzzZZzzlol.08:34
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AIVevian, thank you08:34
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzand i thought i was not smart with linux08:34
Belutz_zzzslashx1896, there's a nerolinux but i prefer gnomebaker08:34
levanderslashx1896: yeah, there's nero for linux, there's a 30-day demo, but then it costs $2008:35
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collinderthats an oxymoron08:35
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzCan anyone help me with install options?, i'm trying to get the most minmal ubuntu_+kde install?08:35
Falstiusyou could maybe run your OEM nero on Wine ...08:35
TTilusslashx1896: crappy quality08:35
slashx1896the nero cd that came with my cd brner wont work on linux?08:35
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KyralMrB|zzZZzzZZzz: do a server install and then sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop08:35
Kyralslashx1896: Nero on Linux sucks08:36
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzyes, but how is this done? heh08:36
Kyralslashx1896: k3b is the best08:36
slashx1896where can i get it08:36
levanderslashx1896: plus, mp3 is an outdated formatted, they've updated it with mp3pro, but you have to pay for that format08:36
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzi am too new to undertsand what you said, i do know how to do the apt-get part though08:36
TTilusslashx1896: are you sure you are putting 200 songs on CD, not DVD?08:36
Kyralslashx1896: sudo apt-get install k3b08:36
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slashx1896i had over 100 songs on a CD using nero and mp3 format when i was runnign windows XP08:36
MrB|zzZZzzZZzz@me?08:36
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collinderttilus: i have tons of mp3 cds with well over 20 songs on them08:36
KyralMrB|zzZZzzZZzz: at the prompt instead of hitting enter, type in "server" and hit return08:37
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levanderslashx1896: 200 songs on a CD is a little much unless they are shit for quality (even shit for MP3 quality)08:37
lwizardlslashx1896: what was the bitrate of them i'm sure you can fit that many as 128kbit08:37
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzheh, i have hundreds of mp3 aswell, but you can't lsiten to them unless you take them off the cd and play them, won't work in a cd player08:37
collinderttilus: i mean 20008:37
slashx1896i dont remember08:37
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzserver and return? that's it?08:37
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KyralMrB|zzZZzzZZzz: yah08:37
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzthen i apt-get kubuntu-desktop08:37
slashx1896i didnt have e xactly 200 i had a lil less, but it said i could add more then what i had08:37
KyralMrB|zzZZzzZZzz: it will drop you to a command line08:38
levanderMrB|zzZZzzZZzz: some CD players are designed to read MP3's off CD08:38
TTiluscollinder: size in megs per piece is?  bitrate is?08:38
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KyralMrB|zzZZzzZZzz: then sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop08:38
beattlshello all08:38
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MrB|zzZZzzZZzzok, after that, i am going to come back heh, becasue i know i will have to reconfig everyhtign again08:38
czr_Kyral, ok, next question. seems that ubuntu kernel doesn't have the resizing support in ext208:38
collinderttilus: i dunno i very rarely would read what i was burning... i just download anything burn it all and then erase... i sit at a tattoo shop all day and download music08:38
czr_Kyral, so I cannot actually do online resizing at all08:38
Kyralczr_: Bingo08:38
Kyral;P08:39
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levanderslashx1896: counting disc space from the number of songs is stupid.  Songs typically take from 3 MB to 10 MB to store, depending upon the length of the song, and the quality it is recorded at08:39
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzKyral, you wqill be on for a long time?08:39
collinderttilus: im the guy at compusa buying all the cd-rs08:39
czr_Kyral, you could have warned me :-)08:39
Kyralczr_: Unless you use LVM08:39
czr_Kyral, I'm on LVM08:39
Kyralczr_: then use GParted08:39
czr_ext2online: resize failed while in kernel08:39
beattlsi'm new to linux and ubunto , i have tested a linux thing in the past but it failed and i had to buy a new hard disk , but i'm going to give it a new try with ubuntu08:39
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czr_Kyral, nah, I need to do it online08:39
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collinderttilus: besides nero changes the file for you when you burn to mp308:39
KyralMrB|zzZZzzZZzz: Yah but I may not be paying attention08:39
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Khisanthbeattls: you could try a livecd first08:39
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levanderslashx1896: maybe you have one big song that takes 50 MB, and you've just eliminated space for ten songs08:39
KyralMrB|zzZZzzZZzz: I have schoolwork to do lol08:39
Falstiusbeattls, if you install linux and it "fails and you have to buy a new disk", just send me the old one ;)08:39
Khisanthbeattls: no need to touch teh HD08:39
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzhrm08:39
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beattlsso i have ordered a free ubuntu cd on the site , but is it possible to order the 'live cd' ?08:40
Kyralczr_: why can't you umount it08:40
obscuriteAnyone running Ubuntu on the Dell/Intel SATA chipset for their desktops? My uncle has a Dimension 8400 and I got him thinking about installing Ubuntu :)08:40
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzwell, i'll be bakc in abotu 2 hours08:40
TTilusmmm, gotta rething, i had some tweak, 200 is possible with reasonable sound quality08:40
Kyralbeattls: it comes in a two disc pack08:40
Kyralbeattls: an Install and a Live08:40
czr_Kyral, because it is a live system? what is the reason for online tools anyway if you cannot use them online :--)08:40
AIVis thre a PDF maker for linux?  that's free?08:40
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TTiluswith vbr and not-too-long songs08:40
Kyralczr_: OpenOffice can export to PDF08:40
FalstiusAIV, there is and it should be installed by default.08:40
AIVnot just a reader, but something that is like acrobat, that converts to PDF08:40
Taa5iHas anyone been able to acquire a patched megaraid module with support for older NetRaid cards please?08:40
Incquick question.08:40
levanderbeattls: why not just download the live cd and the install cd?  takes weeks to get them free from ubuntu08:40
AIVok08:40
collinderttilus: i have discographys on one cd-r, millencolin, lagwagon, nofx, frank zappa the who, pink floyd, herbie handcock... etc... herbies on 2 cds he has over 50 albums08:40
czr_Kyral, wrong address :-)08:40
slashx1896Nope..08:40
Incok I was using ubuntu in vmware player08:41
beattlsso if you have ordered it you get (if you ordered 5 cd's) 10 cd's ? 5 install cd's and 5 live cd's ?08:41
FalstiusAIV, you can try to print to pdf or use the command "ps2pdf"08:41
AIVFalstius, thank you08:41
TTilusAIV: what your need is?08:41
Kyralczr_: Wait you are on a Live CD?08:41
Incand what's the default password?08:41
levanderAIV: openoffice makes pdf08:41
czr_AIV was looking for it08:41
czr_Kyral, nope08:41
KyralInc: Your userpass08:41
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzyes beattls08:41
beattlsok08:41
czr_kyral, 5.10 running nicely on LVM/ext308:41
Kyralubotu tell Inc about RootSudo08:41
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IncKyral, facts are I never set up a password :)08:41
beattlsbtw , i have the 'old' harddisk to install ubuntu on08:41
beattls:08:41
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzold?08:41
KyralInc: ubotu just PM'd you a very nice link about it08:41
TTilusAIV: many progs can produce pdf and pretty much all produce ps which can be converted to pdf with ps2pdf08:41
AIVI was wanting to print the Wine users guide, if it were windows, I would print to my acrobat pdf generator08:41
jdierobsurite, try the live cd first.  That is what I did with my with my dell laptop.  once I knew the live cd was working I did the harddrive install.08:41
KyralAIV: what format is it in?08:41
intelikeyubotu tell Inc about root08:42
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LabThugI'm trying to install breezy on a Dell GX 280.  However, the install hangs after the prompt for hostname, does anyone know a workaround?08:42
collinderanyone know what i need to run 2 monitors?08:42
Kyralintelikey: I already did that lol08:42
slashx1896Hm  welll i dunno il just make 2 cds lol08:42
AIVKyral08:42
intelikeyKyral not the same08:42
AIVKyral, its a webpage08:42
Falstiuscollinder: 2 monitors and 2 video out ports?08:42
Kyralintelikey: its not?08:42
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beattlsis ubuntu easy to work with if you never worked with linux before ?08:42
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Kyralintelikey: I always point people to RootSudo08:42
czr_beattls, yes, one of the easiest08:42
TTiluscollinder: go google "xinerama linux"08:42
AIVHTML, I guess08:43
MrB|zzZZzzZZzz they say ubuntu is for the newbies [not in an offensive way] 08:43
hmpedersenSkype still doesnt work :(08:43
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levanderLabThug: you put the hostname in and hit enter i assume?08:43
Incwell it needs a password to get into package mananger08:43
Inc:)08:43
KyralAIV: You want the HTML or the thing generated by the HTML ;P08:43
collinderflastius: 2 video cards, 1 nvidia and 1 voodoo 3 (yes i know how old it is)08:43
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzso yeah, that is why i am swithcign to it08:43
LabThuglevander: yes08:43
KyralInc: Its your userpass08:43
gnomefreakInc, your user password08:43
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IncKyral, facts are I never set up a password08:43
beattlsdoes somebody knows if you are living in Belgium of you have to pay some taxes for the cd's ?08:43
levanderbeattls: depends upon how much you know about computers and how much you're willing to learn, the learning curve isn't that bad, but there is one08:43
KyralInc: For your user?!08:43
intelikeyKyral that's fine.   but they have a little different information.  compare the two.08:43
obscuritejdier: can you confirm that the SATA support is working with the live CD?08:43
IncI just turned on vmware08:43
obscuritejdier: I guess if the hdd mounts then you know it works?08:43
IncKyral, correct I just opened up ubuntu with vmware08:43
levanderLabThug: what's on the screen when it hangs?08:44
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czr_Kyral, I'm thinking. ext2online is from 2001/03/18. RH just got their version working couple of months ago. so they must be doing something really different. they also use LVM2 over dm08:44
TTilusAIV: print to file from you browser, result is ps-file which you convert to pdf using ps2pdf08:44
KyralInc: do you login to anything with VMWare?08:44
Incno user password nothing08:44
IncKyral, no I don't08:44
beattlsi want to learn much :)08:44
Kyralczr_: I normally umount my drives before screwing with them lol sorry08:44
jdierbeattls, not only is it easy, but the forums are ridiculously newbie friendly.08:44
LabThugI have a blue background screen and a gray bar along the bottom08:44
KyralInc: then uhh.....08:44
Incyeh :)08:44
KyralInc: I think you are Fubar'd08:44
czr_Kyral, backups exist anyway :-)08:44
IncKyral, well that sucks08:44
TTilusAIV: why would you like to convert webpage to pdf?08:44
jdierI have messed with fedora and knoppix, but this is like a whole different animal.  Almost NO headaches at all.08:45
czr_Kyral, but online ext resizing is really nice when it works :-)08:45
KyralInc: Normally you have a User account08:45
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzyeah,  so is the chat, if you go to #debian or soemthign though, your liekl;y to get smacked08:45
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collinderttilus: checking xinerama now, thanks08:45
gnomefreakInc, did you install ubuntu?08:45
Incgnomefreak, nope automated08:45
Kyralgnomefreak: its on VMWare it seems08:45
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzfor askign 100% valid questions without searchign all 500 pages of google08:45
obscuritejdier: My mian concern is making sur ethe SATA support works before doing a full install, and I wonder if I can check with the live CD08:45
KyralInc: you need a user password08:45
Incy ou guy's should try out vmware08:45
jdierobscurite, you are a bit beyond me, but from the Live CD you can test just about everything on the system08:45
IncKyral, well I don't have one.08:45
Kyralobscurite: for the most part it does08:45
beattlsok (ok there will be some angry guys here if i ask the question but ...) what's THE reason to use ubuntu(linux) in place of windows ?08:45
KyralInc: Then...uhh sorry....08:45
levanderLabThug: you're going to have to give me more information, but i'm not quite sure how to get more information from the installation process myself, i've only done it once or twice.  I've just been using my system since then - not installing it.08:45
AIVTTilus, what I want wont work anyhow08:46
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzand when you aska  question abotu viedio cards, and they tell you to read the instalation manual08:46
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IncKyral, try vmware sometime you will see08:46
czr_beattls, it works & is free08:46
manubuntuhello ... is there an alternative to Kino on ubuntu for cutting videos ???08:46
Incvmware.com08:46
obscuritejdier, Kyral, thanks08:46
KyralInc: Yours is one of those .1% things that we never expect08:46
LabThuglevander: ok, I'll try booting in expert mode08:46
gnomefreakInc,  when it was installed who typed in the user account? name and password?08:46
AIVI just realized that what I'm looking is at is just links to seperate pages08:46
Incthank you guy's for your help though08:46
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AIVhttp://www.winehq.com/site/docs/wineusr-guide/index08:46
Izzyobscurite - knowing absolutely nothing abuot ubun-newbie, i just popped the disk in on a single drive sata system.. and it worked08:46
Incgnomefreak, no one08:46
KyralInc: I have installed Ubuntu on VMWare to test my packages08:46
TTilusbeattls: do you need arguments to convert somebody or do you want us to convert you?08:46
Izzyubun-newbie = ubuntu (damn completer)08:46
KyralInc: You still have to put a password in08:46
gr3psanyone tried enlightenment 16/17 with ubuntu08:46
IncKyral, well this is prepackaged08:46
gr3ps?08:46
beattlsbut there are a lot of 'negative' things about it ? (not all games / programms excists for linux) ?08:46
obscuriteIzzy: do you know if you have the Intel SATA chipset?08:46
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KyralInc: I have not known about this08:46
AIVTTylus, I was hoping to make a pdf, and then print it outright08:46
jdierbeattls, I am using it so I did not have to pay $100 for XP and $35 a year for antivirus.08:46
Izzyobscurite one sec08:46
KyralInc: Ask whoever you got it from for the userpass word08:47
czr_beattls, most commercial games are missing yes08:47
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzi'm gettign it becasue i jsut want to be linux smart, heh08:47
beattlsok08:47
Kyralbeattls: this is why we use Cedega08:47
jdierOther stuff that would cost loads on XP is free on Ubuntu.08:47
czr_beattls, with some tricks you might get them to work though08:47
IncKyral, I got it from vmware.com but it was prepackaged08:47
beattlsCedega ?08:47
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzeven though i ahve nothign agaisnt windows08:47
TTilusbeattls: I go for Ubuntu because I am just plain lazy.08:47
levanderbeattls: if you're playing a lot of 3D games, stick with Windows08:47
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Kyralbeattls: But Doom3 and UT2k4 is native08:47
KyralInc: No thanks :P08:47
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levanderbeattls: although some 3D games do work on Linux08:47
czr_beattls, you can always do a dual install. have windows around for gaming and linux for serious work08:48
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obscuriteYeah, I chose Ubuntu because it seemed to be the best integrated GUI with a decent stock kernel (lots of drivers and patches)08:48
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzdoom3 and ut2k4 work on linux with emulators just fine08:48
obscuriteIn other words, I was lazy08:48
beattlsi'm not a really gamer , i'm gaming sometimes a bit americas army (but there is a linux version of it ...)08:48
IncPre-built Browser Appliance Virtual Machine08:48
IncFeaturing: Mozilla Firefox 1.0.7 and Ubuntu Linux 5.0408:48
MrB|zzZZzzZZzza friend played HL2 with Wine08:48
KyralMrB|zzZZzzZZzz: they are native installs :P08:48
Inchttp://www.vmware.com/download/player/08:48
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzoh08:48
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzheh08:48
Izzyoba  Intel E732008:48
Incright there.08:48
Izzyobscurite  Intel E732008:48
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IncMrB|zzZZzzZZzz, damn your nicks long08:48
LabThuganyone know a way to make breezy install using the 2.6 kernel?08:48
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzwell, i play games msotly myself, and none of my games are antive08:48
obscuriteIzzy, thanks, not sure if that's the one in the Dimension 8400 but i'll write it down08:48
beattlsdo i have to worry about a anti virus ?08:48
KyralLabThug: it is by default with the 2.608:48
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzlike unreal 108:48
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzheh08:48
czr_LabThug, it is already08:48
LabThugoh ok :-$08:48
KyralLabThug: 2.6.12-9 I believe08:48
ubun-newbieis there any antivirus or firewall for ubuntu08:49
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzthere08:49
AIVTTilus, I was hoping to convert that Wine manual to a PDF, and then print it, but I realized that its an index, links to other pages, so I guess it wont work08:49
MrB|zzZZzzZZzzer08:49
Falstiusunless you need Linux for working, doing a dual install defeats most of the reasons for running Linux over windows.08:49
gnomefreakbeattls, not really but there are some for ubuntu08:49
Kyralubun-newbie: they are not needed08:49
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czr_beattls, depends on whether you are a mail server for windows clients or not08:49
TTilusbeattls: just go browsing security sites and warning lists and decide yourself08:49
ubun-newbieok how do i create a socket08:49
czr_beattls, you need to worry about security like in any environment08:49
TTilusbeattls: I dont08:49
Kyralubun-newbie: NFI ;P08:49
Stormx2How do I make gnome open FTP directories selected from the "places" menu open in Nautilus. They were before, But I messed it up.08:49
Kyralubun-newbie: I just know how to work IPTables :D08:49
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KyralYah?08:49
IzzyAnyone mind helping a ubuntu newbie figure out how to upgrade to php5/mysql5 (im on a server install of breezy)08:49
Incdid you look at the link?08:49
beattlsok i have a lot of questions ... is it a problem that i ask them all ?08:49
levanderAIV: sometimes they release the manual in other formats that might be easier to print, but my suggestion is just to get used to read documentation online08:49
ubun-newbiehow can i create a socket mr.kyral08:50
Kyralbeattls: one at a time please :D08:50
gr3pshow does the 5.10 release work. It says it includes a livecd option.08:50
gr3ps?08:50
Kyralubun-newbie: I don't know lol08:50
gnomefreakKyral,  your a step up from me ive just heard about them lol08:50
[c] MrBno beattls08:50
ubun-newbieyou said u know lol08:50
Kyralgr3ps: you have to download and burn them08:50
FalstiusAIV: the wine users guide in pdf?  Its here: http://www.winehq.com/docs/en/wineusr-guide.pdf08:50
beattlsok thx all :)08:50
Kyralubun-newbie: I know about IPTables08:50
czr_ah, an ubuntu-related question, finally. can I install ubuntu using the live-cd?08:50
[c] MrBheh, they will be getting q questiosn dumped on them by me in abotu 2 hours08:50
Kyralubun-newbie: Which is the firewall built into Linux08:50
Incwow do you guy's get random questions like that all the time in here?08:50
Kyralczr_: No08:50
gnomefreak[c] MrB, no08:50
Kyralczr_: Not yet08:50
[c] MrB?08:50
czr_always wondered about that08:50
Kyralczr_: Its planned for Dapper08:50
Inchaving people ask questions that are...........08:50
levanderubun-newbie: you're asking some pretty serious questions, i'll be surprised if they're resolved in this chat room, time to hit the docs and study quite a bit i think08:50
gnomefreaki mean czr_  sorry08:50
beattlshow can i create a dual boot on my pc , i have got one hard disk with windows (wich i will plug out for safety when i install linux) and than i've another hard disk for linux08:51
aoniccdoes ubuntu support multi-monitor configurations?08:51
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czr_and downloaded the normal CD instead, OTOH it would be really nice to have both in the same pack08:51
Kyralaonicc: yes08:51
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jax0mhow can i find out how much disk space a directory is taking up?08:51
czr_Kyral, could a minimal netinstall be fitted on the live cd?08:51
Kyralczr_: the problem is fitting them both on one cd08:51
[c] MrBleft click properties08:51
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czr_that's why I asked about the netinstall08:51
Kyralczr_: it is planned for Dapper08:51
jax0m[c] MrB, command line08:51
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gnomefreakczr_, if you get them from ship it they come live and install in same sleve08:51
Kyralczr_: in April08:51
[c] MrBoh, heh08:51
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czr_Kyral, cool, thanks for the info08:51
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Incfunnny stuff anytime someone canhelp me say my nick08:51
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Incthanks08:52
obscuriteIzzy, what's available via apt by default as far as mysql/php?08:52
jax0mdoes anyone else know how?08:52
jax0mhow can i find out how much disk space a directory is taking up?08:52
Kyralobscurite: everything?08:52
jax0mfrom the command line?08:52
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Kyraljax0m: df -h <dir?08:52
gnomefreakInc, thats so you know we answered :)08:52
[c] MrBapt-cache search mysql php08:52
obscuriteKyral - wondering what he's starting out with if he's upgrading :)08:52
[c] MrBobscure08:52
czr_gnomefreak, I try not to create any waste CDs08:52
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jax0mKyral, thanks, i didn't know df let you specify directories08:52
czr_gnomefreak, I burn on RWs normally08:52
obscuriteKyral (was talking about Izzy's question)08:52
Talkyanother query... can i boot ubuntu without having to install grub?08:52
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Incgnomefreak, ?08:52
KyralTalky: no08:52
KyralTalky: you need GRUB or LILO08:52
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czr_Talky, depends08:52
[c] MrBdoes the installation instal grub?08:52
jax0mKyral, that's cause it doesn't08:53
aonicckyral, would you be willing to help me set up xorg to work with multiple monitors?08:53
Kyral[c] MrB: yes08:53
beattlshow can i create a dual boot on my pc , i have got one hard disk with windows (wich i will plug out for safety when i install linux) and than i've another hard disk for linux08:53
[c] MrBok08:53
czr_but probably no. it's not something newbies should try08:53
Kyralaonicc: look at your PM08:53
gnomefreakInc,  we say your name when we answer so you know we are answering you08:53
jax0mKyral, that outputs the available disk space on the partition the particular directory is mounted on08:53
jax0mdoesn't help me at all08:53
Kyraljax0m: oh lol08:53
Kyraljax0m: I fogot08:53
[c] MrB   damn, these linux distros have everhyitng, installign windows, you need several 3rd aprty programs08:53
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Kyraljax0m: its DU -h dir08:53
Incgnomefreak, ok but no one answered my problem.08:53
Inc:)08:53
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jax0mKyral, haha08:53
jax0mthanks hun08:53
obscuriteAre there any linux installers that allow you to resize a windows partition and install along side it in a new partition? (for when you have no space left)08:53
Talkyczr_, i heard that its possile to boot from floopy ..08:53
Kyraljax0m: its insane in here08:53
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jax0mhahah08:53
gnomefreakInc,  what was it im sorry missed it08:53
Kyralobscurite: yes Ubuntu does I think08:54
jax0mKyral, many thanks08:54
obscurite(to clarify) non destructive partition resize, like partition magic08:54
czr_Talky, yes, but it's unsupported and will go away and would require custom kernel in case of ubuntu08:54
KyralTalky: it is...but not reccommended08:54
[c] MrBdon't most distoros come with a tool for doing that obscure?08:54
zandaa!mp308:54
uboturumour has it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:54
Incgnomefreak, I Told you about the password thing08:54
Incand being screwed over.08:54
beattlsif i'm going to game , on wich os (windows or linux:kubuntu) i'll have the best fps ?08:54
Incdue to not having it08:54
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Izzyi see php5 in the apt-get, but if i already have php4 installed, what do i do?08:54
obscurite[c] MrB: non destructive resize i mean08:54
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czr_beattls, there was a tool for windows that would add a boot entry into the windows boot manager08:54
Incand I linked you twhere I got it.08:54
Inc!AAC08:54
ubotu[aac]  read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about aac support08:54
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KyralIzzy: they cohabitate08:54
czr_beattls, so that you select linux from it08:54
[c] MrBbeattls, it's not abotu FPS really, if that were the case, id say ubtuntu08:54
Inc!WINDOWS08:54
ubotuI heard windows is unnecessary, everything runs in Linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office or find an !alternative, or what you remove to make room for kubuntu08:54
Inc;P08:54
[c] MrBit's about compatability [for me anyways] 08:54
gnomefreakInc, someone had to put a user name and password or you couldnt get onto the desktop08:54
AIVFalstius, thank you08:54
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Incnope08:55
czr_beattls, then you just install on a separate disk and install GRUB to the start of the Linux disk (not the windows one)08:55
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kemiktoo bad ubotu is wrong there :B08:55
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NgInc: that entry is nonsense08:55
[c] MrBactuallyign gettign the emulator to run the game08:55
KyralInc: then you are FUBAR'd08:55
czr_beattls, but keep the disks at different IDE-names (one master, other master on other ide channel, or slave)08:55
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[c] MrBwhat games are you trying to play?08:55
Talkythnx czr_08:55
czr_beattls, otherwise grub won't be able to boot08:55
Inckyncani, cool08:55
Talkythnx Kyral08:55
FalstiusAIV, np.08:55
shaggydoodoes anyone have experience with getting dri/3d accel on mach64 cards?08:55
AndyRlo all08:55
czr_Talky, np08:55
NecrocideHow do I close port 1027 (IIS)?08:55
beattlsso with a small program i can make a kind of menu when i boot pc ? in that menu i can choose for windows or for linux ? i'm i understanding that good ?08:55
loufoqueubotu is saying crap08:55
ubotuloufoque: I give up, what is it?08:55
czr_Necrocide, it is not IIS. it is an outbound port from your host08:56
IzzyKyral so if i just follow a tutorial on how to install php5, ill have no issues that there is an existing php4 installed?08:56
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czr_Necrocide, most probably08:56
Izzyor is it something i have to remove?08:56
loufoqueWine/Cedega/CrossOver aren't emulators08:56
[c] MrBgrub coems up with a 'pick your OS' menu08:56
KyralIzzy: I believe so08:56
beattlsok08:56
NecrocideSo its needed?08:56
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[c] MrBwhat are they?08:56
[c] MrBlouf08:56
collinder!xinerama08:56
ubotuNo idea, collinder08:56
beattlsi can install GRUB after i installed ubuntu ?08:56
loufoqueWine Is Not an Emulator08:56
gnomefreakInc, you need to install it over again and this time do it dont let someone else do it i have never heard of an automatted install08:56
collinderok how do i "install" xinerama08:56
[c] MrBgrub is installed during the ubtunu installation08:56
czr_Necrocide, try connecting to it with telnet: telnet localhost 102708:56
FalstiusNecrocide: the easiest way is to download something like Firestart (sudo apt-get install firestarter)08:56
collindercause all i see are a bunch of words08:56
zandaaloufoque, then what is Wine?08:56
[c] MrBthen what is it louf?08:56
gnomefreakbeattls, grub gets "installed" during ubuntu08:56
czr_Necrocide, if you actually get some access, then it probably is some backdoor08:56
zandaagnomefreak, that's only if you choose it to08:57
czr_Necrocide, netstat -tln08:57
loufoquehttp://www.winehq.com/site/docs/wine-faq/index#WHAT-IS-WINE-AND-WHAT-IS-IT-SUPPOSED-TO08:57
beattlsbut grub is also working when i have 2 harddisk and one of them (the one with windows) isn't plugged in ?08:57
Kyral[c] MrB: Wine is technically something that allows Linux to use XP DLLs08:57
gr3pskyral, there seems to be one 600mB download--that includes a live cd, or there is a method of burning either a live cd or an install-cd?08:57
beattlswhile installing08:57
[c] MrBwine emulates a window spai08:57
Kyralgr3ps: its a LiveCD08:57
[c] MrBapi*08:57
czr_beattls, as long as you don't move the disks on the bus08:57
gnomefreakzandaa,  on breezy you dont have a choice unless you do server install08:57
Incgnomefreak, well I probably will later on08:57
[c] MrByes, that's what an emulator does08:57
[c] MrBheh08:57
gnomefreakim not sure if server install lets you choose08:57
Kyral[c] MrB: No not actually. An Emulator runs "on top" of the hardware08:57
czr_beattls, with some work it's possible to support even after movement08:58
Ng[c] MrB: it *implements* much of the windows api, there's a difference08:58
loufoqueWine just ports the windows API to linux08:58
AndyRi like qemu08:58
eobanbkyral's right08:58
loufoquecan't you read ?08:58
beattlsok thx :)08:58
Kyral[c] MrB: Think NDiswrapper08:58
Kyral[c] MrB: But for everything else lol08:58
shaggydooI've tried every possible solution to get direct rendering on my mach64 card. I've compiled from CVS (from one of the how-to wikis), I've compiled the modules (from the How-To SAVAGE on the forums), tried some other misc stuff, nothing seems to work, anyone feel like sparing a moment to help me?08:58
zandaagnomefreak, ah ok08:58
[c] MrBlol08:58
loufoqueand that's why it is way better than an emulator08:58
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beattlsthey say that linux is better to host server etc , is that true ? and can i better host server with ubuntu than with windows ?08:58
gr3psok. thanks.08:58
LabThughmm, in the expert install version, ubuntu hangs right after scanning the drives for partitioning08:58
[c] MrBWell, how good is Wine for running older games?08:58
Kyralbeattls: yes08:58
NecrocideI got port 1027, 1026, and 631? How do I close? :/08:58
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Kyralbeattls: Ever hear of Apache?08:58
[c] MrBlike unreal 1, Quake 2, etc08:58
czr_beattls, if you know what you're doing, yes08:59
beattlsyes08:59
LabThugthis machine has an SATA drive, could that be causing ubuntu's installer to hang08:59
czr_linux is also the most broken into server08:59
czr_:-)08:59
beattlsbut why ? i don't understand why it would better to host with linux :s08:59
loufoque[c] MrB: check wine's website08:59
shaggydoo[c] MrB, well quake is available for linux08:59
[c] MrBi suppose i shoudl as in the wine channel08:59
Kyralczr_: Bull****08:59
[c] MrBQuake 2?08:59
psycodei'm having a small problem, i can't change the thunderbird icon in the gnome panel... its odd..08:59
gnomefreakbeattls, some linux distros are made for servers bsd (not linux) is pretty much made for server08:59
czr_Kyral, I'm not speaking about windows home computers08:59
KyralIIS is worse ;P08:59
shaggydoo[c] MrB, should be, it's open-source08:59
Kyralczr_: I know :P08:59
[c] MrBit is :O08:59
[c] MrB?08:59
czr_Kyral, sure. but there are so much more linuxen out there08:59
[c] MrBi didn't know that08:59
Kyralczr_: Apache is more secure than IIS :P08:59
eobanbthere are linux ports of all three versions of quake08:59
czr_and most of the admins just don't know what to do with them08:59
shaggydoo[c] MrB, id does that for most of their games09:00
AndyRor better still download enemy terratory09:00
Kyralokay I really need to get to work09:00
shaggydoonot immediately, of course.09:00
czr_Kyral, anything is unsecure in my books if you don't maintain it09:00
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czr_apache has holes, sshd has holes, etc etc09:00
Kyralczr_: of course but NOW i need to work09:00
[c] MrBwhat about Unreal 1?. it's the main reason i use the computer heh, [i'm a mapper/scripter] 09:00
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czr_Kyral, :-)09:00
shaggydoono idea, you'd better google or check the wine site09:00
[c] MrBmost importantly, the editor it uses, which is VB, heh09:00
beattlsi'm programming in c++ , is there a good compiler for linux ?09:00
AndyRET is great09:00
MWettendorffHow do i list all the DB that is on the sql server??09:00
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slushpupie[c] MrB: as far as I know, Unreal works in wine09:00
gnomefreakczr_, if you look hard enough at anything there are holes nothing is perfect09:00
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kemikbeattls:  g++09:01
czr_beattls, intel's c compiler or GNU project compiler collection (gcc)09:01
Kyralbeattls: sudo apt-get install build-essential09:01
shaggydooAndyR,  ET is great, and that's why I'm trying to get direct rendering on my mach64 card, or at least the onboard SiS 63009:01
[c] MrBdownlaod of ubtuntu is done, lets pray this cd works, brb09:01
czr_beattls, also some others, but probably too expensive for you09:01
beattlsand all that compilers / software is opensource (= free ?)09:01
czr_gnomefreak, sure09:01
randyi'm trying to open a file that is called linuxq3apoint-1.32b.x86.run (i'm trying to setup a quake III arena server) and i'm sure its a archive file.. but how do i open it?09:01
kemikbeattls:  free yes09:01
czr_beattls, not all. but gcc is free09:01
Falstiusbeattls: g++ is a good compiler, but there are also IDEs (similar to Microsoft Visual) for linux such as Anjuta and kdevelop.09:01
Kyralbeattls: GCC is all you need :D09:01
gnomefreakbeattls, yes free09:01
slushpupierandy: you just run that file09:01
beattlsthe IDE's are they also for free ?09:02
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slushpupierandy: its a script/self-extracting-archive09:02
AndyRshaggydoo, ET works great here on a G-force 5 :)#09:02
Falstiusbeattls: those are09:02
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gnomefreakthan theres vi, vim, emacs and hundreds of others :)09:02
Kyralbeattls: everything in Ubuntu is free09:02
Falstiusbeattls: but if you want to spend money on something there's always someone willing to take it ;)09:02
shaggydooAndyR, works great on my laptop too, but I'd still like to get it working on this old computer09:02
Kyrallegally free09:02
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randyso i just run it in the root terminal?09:02
beattlswow that's all looing much better than windows ?09:02
eobanbdid he just ask if something was free??09:02
slushpupierandy: yes09:02
Kyraleobanb: yes09:02
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eobanblol09:02
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gnomefreakeobanb, yep09:02
slushpupierandy: there should be a readme that goes with that file that tells you how to install quake309:02
Kyralbeattls: welcome to the wonderful world of GPL09:02
randythanks i'll give it a try09:02
shaggydooDamn you xorg!!09:03
beattlsGPL ?09:03
Kyral!GPL09:03
ubotuNot a clue, Kyral09:03
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beattlslol sry09:03
gnomefreakEVERYTHING is free in all senses of the word in ubuntu09:03
Lagroexit09:03
KyralThe GNU General Public License09:03
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Kyralwww.gnu.org09:03
Kyralnow I go worky09:03
AndyRshaggydoo, apart from the fact i get motion sickness after a while playing it09:03
abarbaccia_join #xen09:03
Kyralor else I faily class09:03
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gnomefreaklater Kyral09:03
shaggydooAndyR, hah, really? never happened to me, although I did get that back in the day from counter-strike09:03
czr_gnomefreak, nv drivers too?09:03
randyso i try to run my file and it says permission denied?09:03
gnomefreakczr_, what about nv drivers?09:04
beattlsis here somebody from europe who ordered the cd's ?09:04
czr_gnomefreak, free in all senses of the word?09:04
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shaggydoorandy, use sudo or log in as root09:04
AndyRbeattls, yes uk here with cds delivered09:04
mkyb14?09:04
Falstiusyou know, GPL is in some ways less "free" than other licenses .. but thats not really "ontopic" here.09:04
gnomefreakczr_, i dont see why not but i dont use them the bot has a site for them tho :)09:05
beattlshow long did it take ?09:05
rathmahi all09:05
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czr_gnomefreak, well, you can't get the source code for them, so they're not free in all meanings of the word. that was my point :-)09:05
AndyRbeattls, 6 weeks?09:05
czr_I'm sure there are also some firmwares which are not free included in ubuntu09:05
beattlsok that's fine , so i know when they are going to arrive (approximately)09:05
shaggydoooh come on! there has to be someone here with experience with mach64 or SiS cards!09:05
czr_but better not split hairs tonite09:05
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czr_shaggydoo, have you tried googling?09:06
gnomefreakczr_, remember me telling you you look hard enough. you want the source code bad enough you can find it09:06
AndyRshaggydoo, cant you put a better card in it?09:06
shaggydooczr_, like there's no tomorrow09:06
czr_shaggydoo, cause your problem doesn't seem to be ubuntu-specific :-)09:06
shaggydooAndyR, it's an old computer I got for free09:06
czr_shaggydoo, hmmh. I've never confed mach64/sis for DRI09:06
shaggydooAndyR, not much point in putting that in there09:06
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czr_otherwise I could have taken a look09:06
AndyRshaggydoo, where are you?09:06
shaggydooAndyR, canada09:06
czr_gnomefreak, I'd settle for programming specs09:07
czr_good ones. hell, even bad ones like ATI offered09:07
shaggydooczr_, well, the furthest I got was with the sis630 card, I managed to get it to direct rendering, but glxgears simply crashed with "segmentation fault"09:07
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AndyRok, if in uk i would have sent you an old g-force09:07
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[c] MrBserver install then apt-get kubuntu-desktop right?09:07
beattlsanother question , not ubuntu specific but ... if i play Americas Army with linux (the same version) can i join than the same server ?09:07
shaggydooAndyR, thanks though :)09:07
czr_shaggydoo, hmm. segfault could be caused for very many reasons09:07
[c] MrBwhat is the command to  select internet  apt-get sources?09:08
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shaggydooczr_, tell me, oh wise one ;)09:08
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czr_shaggydoo, mismatch of X protocol extensions on server and client, mismatch of data packet framing from dri clientside to GPU, mismatch of DRM commands, etc09:09
czr_shaggydoo, I'd really like to help you, but I'd need to have the same hardware in order to09:09
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czr_debugging DRI-stuff is pita09:09
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czr_I only have radeons at the moment09:10
shaggydooczr_, I see.09:10
czr_I think there was a sis somewhere, but can't remember where09:10
czr_some motherboard solution, might be at work09:10
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randyi've been trying to run this linuxq3apoint-1.32b.x86.run file but i dont understand how to make it run the root terminal.. i get errors like; command not found or permission denied.09:10
shaggydoothere are official linux drivers from sis, but that didn't seem to work (didn't look like it was for xorg)09:11
AndyRos[Linux 2.6.10-5-686 - Debian 3.1]  up[10 hours, 08 minutes]  cpu[Pentium III (Coppermine), 451.053 MHz (892.92 bogomips)]  mem[279.17/282.39 MB (98.9%)]  video[ at 1024x768 (24 bits)] 09:11
czr_shaggydoo, sis630?09:11
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beattlslast question , i'm volonteering my cpu power for UD grid.org , but i just saw at there site that there wasn't a linux version ? is it possible to run this on linux ?09:12
AndyRrandy is it +x?09:12
chalcedonygreetings and *hugs*09:12
czr_beattls, spare your CPU from early death and don't run that :-)09:12
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navaronerandy may have to be run as root...try sudo'ing the command09:12
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czr_beattls, if a commercial closed project doesn't provide linux versions, then no, there is no linux version09:12
beattlsczr_ ? what's bad with doing that ?09:12
chalcedonymy husband and i are trying to set up our HP All-In-One on his new Ubuntu. HELP!!!09:13
czr_beattls, higher temp kills electronics faster09:13
beattlsi've got zalman 9500 :D09:13
Falstiuschalcedony: if you just want to print, it should be okay.  If you want to scan ... maybe.09:13
chalcedonyit's asking for an ip ?09:13
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Falstiuschalcedony: what model is it?09:13
MWettendorffwhat is the best FTP server for ubuntu??09:13
chalcedonyFalstius: *sigh* print first.. actually a good head cleaning would help it.09:13
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collinderok i have just installed the xinerama packets... now i need help with the nvidia drivers... if i serioulsy follow the wiki... it should work, right09:14
chalcedonyFalstius: HP Officejet 721009:14
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chalcedonywooh Falstius :)09:14
ThePyromaniacI am following ttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to install java 1.509:14
randyi've tried using the sudo command, i'm fairly new to linux.. should i have the file stored somewhere other than the desktop to run it?09:14
Stormx2Eek09:14
ThePyromaniacbut when i try to install fakeroot it doesnt work09:14
Stormx2I forgot I asked my question >.>09:15
ThePyromaniacPackage fakeroot is not available, but is referred to by another package09:15
gnomefreakubotu tell ThePyromaniac  about javadebs09:15
Stormx2Can I get FTP directories to open in nautilus when they are selected from the places menu?09:15
Torez182bCan someone help please? My Ubuntu installation constantly reverts to my wireless LAN for default gateway, stopping my internet, and when WLAN's disabled, it doesn't select any connection at all..09:15
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DrBairrandy: you need to use chmod to give the file executable permissions09:15
jarohi there. I have serious problems with my fresh breezy installation.09:15
gnomefreakThePyromaniac, the pm ubotu sent you will install much easier09:15
DrBairrandy:  then run it like ./filename09:15
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Watje>> find /mnt//Muziek/ -name ".mp3" -or -name "*.MP3" << gives me only the *.MP3 ones, so can anybody tell me whats wrong?09:16
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jaroI've installed warty off cd and then updated via apt to breezy.09:16
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MWettendorffwhat is the best FTP server for ubuntu??09:16
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ThePyromaniacgnomefreak thanks, perhaps im being lame but how do you install from deb?09:16
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jaroNow I have mysterious errors with X.09:16
binarydigitdefine best09:16
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Falstiuschalcedony: your printer should be pretty simple to set up.  It has network support and probably just gets an ip address from your router09:16
chalcedonyMWettendorff: i love your nick09:16
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beattlsok thanks all for the help i received :) this irc channel is really good ... maybay i'll come back when i got my ubuntu cd's an i've a problem09:16
DrBairWatje:  missing a * before the .mp3 part?09:16
collinderquestion... when this install doesnt work, how do i get the backup towork... cause it never works!!!09:16
jaroI'll try to explain...09:16
Watjeah thank you DrBair09:16
navaroneMatje> because you used flag *MP# that will filter and show only mp3s from that directory09:16
gnomefreakThePyromaniac, download it than after its done type sudo dpkg -i <packagename>09:16
chalcedonyFalstius: ok ty i'm pretty lame at this stuff. can you explain step by step, please?09:16
Watjethat was stupid09:16
navaronemp3 rather...lol09:16
ThePyromaniacgnomefreak thanks09:17
zandaaYAY!!! I gots the flash to work :P09:17
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gnomefreakThePyromaniac, your welcome09:17
Stormx2zandaa: sweet09:17
jaroWhen I start kdm/gdm and press any key, resolution gets switched instead of receiving character.09:17
MWettendorffChalcedony: how come?? it is just my name09:17
zandaastormx2, yeh, that's what I thought09:17
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Falstiuschalcedony: you need to find out what IP address the printer has first.09:17
chalcedonyFalstius: yes how09:17
FalstiusThe easiest way to do that is probably to log into your router and get it off the dhcp list.09:17
chalcedonyMWettendorff: it's a neat name too09:17
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zandaastormx2, it's not the official player though (the installer doesn't work on 64-bit systems)09:18
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chalcedonyFalstius: umm how?09:18
jaroI don't even know what causes the problem. Any suggestions?09:18
akurashyIs there a way to decorate the terminal? (Like using black background, because white hurts my eyes)09:18
shaggydooczr_, sorry, yes, sis630.09:18
zandaaakurashy, try and rightclick the terminal itself09:18
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navaroneakurashy ...I use venetian blinds...lol09:18
Torez182bAnyone help...?09:18
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shaggydooczr_, 630/730, 300 series, all the same.09:18
zandaaakurashy, and then click on something like edit profile or something09:18
MWettendorffchalcedony: you are freaking me out here..  Do you know me in some way??09:19
akurashyzandaa, wow! i never thought it was there , my bad09:19
gnomefreaki had a nice purple background and damn windows made me lose it :(09:19
jarois there any other ubuntu channel where someone could possibly help me to find out what's wrong?09:19
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anavimhow do I launch the screen resolution app from the cli?09:19
akurashyzandaa, thanks a lot!09:19
Falstiuschalcedony: open up firefox and go to "http://192.168.0.1" and login in09:19
zandaaakurashy, no problem09:19
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Falstiuschalcedony:  there should be a tab somewhere that says "dhcp" and a list of machines with addresses.  this depends a lot on the kind of router.09:20
anavimstrangely, the screen resolution app doesn't have screen resolution in it's name, so I can't find it with apropos or locate09:20
collinderi have installed xnerama and nvidia drivers.... how can i be sure that i did everythign correctly before i restart...09:20
collinderif thats possible?09:20
kraehemoin ... any idea how to install ubuntu without a CD ? i have pxe up and running ... is it possible to debootstrap ubuntu from a debian ?09:20
ProNoobi am getting alot of "Dec  9 18:21:07 localhost kernel: [4300107.330000]  eth0: Too much work at interr upt, status=0x3c48080." messages like that since yesterday, and when it happens i get disconnected, i am connected to the internet with pppoe over eth0, any ideas ?09:20
DrBaircollinder:  i guess just restart the x server and see what happens :-).  if you backed up your xorg.conf you should be fine09:21
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chalcedonyMWettendorff: i'm a grandmother, just being nice.09:21
nickrudanavim, I think you're looking for gnome-display-properties09:22
collinderdrbair: well it doesnt look like it worked09:22
jaro any suggestion what might cause resolution switching on keypress (except that numpad keys work correctly) when in kdm/gdm (breezy)09:22
Falstiuschalcedony: there is an easier way, but I'm trying to get it to work on my machine first.09:23
anavimnickrud: thx!!!09:23
collinderdrbair: i dont get how everything is shown on the nvidia monitor during boot up and then it shoots over to the voodoo 3 monitor... i just installed both the nvidia drivers and xinerama...09:23
collinderi have no clue anymore09:23
chalcedonythe connection was refused at that ip Falstius09:23
collinderdrbair: it says failed to start the x server09:23
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Falstiuschalcedony: do you know how to use the command line?09:24
gnomefreakcollinder, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to fix X09:24
navaronecollinder sounds like you need to edit xorg.conf in order to enable nvidia driver09:24
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DrBaircollinder:  does the modules show up in lsmod?09:24
DrBaircollinder:  also take a peak in /var/log/ to see what the xorg log has to say about it09:25
alexandreHi guys! I see you are talking about switching resolutions within Gnome. "gnome-display-properties" does the job once you're logged in. But I wonder how you can change the resolution for the log-on screen. On my computer, it simply uses max resolution, which has a refresh rate of 60 Hz and which hurts my eyes. An idea?09:25
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navaronegnomefreak maybe easier to just edit xorg.conf. I tried the reconfigure thing and lost keyboard and mouse again...had to cp backup to xorg.conf to fix...lol09:25
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collinderdrbair: i cant take a peek at anything all i have is a black screen on my computer now09:25
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MWettendorffchalcedony: oh. i c09:26
collindergnomefreak: says i must run as root... im in the terminal im guessing09:26
jeenyusnoboarderhey, im trying to use the unoficial add on CD. I use the install command says the install completed, then im suppost to type "sudo sh $HOME/ug-install.sh -auto"09:26
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collinderim a total noob09:26
jeenyusnoboarderand i do09:26
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jeenyusnoboarderbut nothign happens09:26
jeenyusnoboarderany ideas?09:26
chalcedonyFalstius: on my box yes (debian) this one no (ubuntu)09:26
jaro any suggestion what might cause resolution switching on keypress (except that numpad keys work correctly) when in kdm/gdm (breezy)09:26
gnomefreakcollinder, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:27
navaronecollinder try sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf  <-- type pass and will open file to edit09:27
Falstiuschalcedony: you can open a terminal by hitting alt-f2 and type xterm into the box.09:27
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collinderty gnomefreak and navarone...09:27
collindertryin now09:27
jeenyusnoboarder-_-09:27
gnomefreakyw Collinder either way should work fine09:27
chalcedonyFalstius: ty very much i have a phone call, few min please?09:28
navaronecollinder...if you have nvidia drivers installed check for mention of nvidia in the display section of conf09:28
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Falstiuschalcedony: sure.09:28
NecrocideWhere do I install cursors? :)09:28
collindergnomefreak: i got the blue configure x server - x org page09:28
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collindergnomefreak: and i see nvidia09:28
collindernavarone: im guessin i just hit enter here cause this is what your talkin bout right?09:29
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alexandrejaro> I think I have seen something about keys used to switch resolution somewhere in a config file. I believe it might have been in /etc/X11/xf-something.09:29
AIVone of the printers I have here in the office is a Lanier LD135 (copier machine type unit), and in my windows environment it is shared from a windows 2000 server, on the server it is set up as a local printer via a tcp/ip printer port - in ubuntu I set it up as an hp jetdirect using the printers IP address and port 9100, and it just wont print09:29
AIVwhat am I doing wrong?09:29
tonyyarussoI'm having some trouble figuring out how to get non-free formats to play embedded on pages in Firefox.  I have the codecs and such to play them in Totem and VLC, but not the FF plugins set up.09:30
gnomefreakcollinder,  yes try enter also as you go through it see if autodetect finds everything ok09:30
tonyyarusso(The one I'm testing with is a WMV video.)09:30
collindernavarone: i hit enter while i was on nvidia and now its showing my 3dfx voodoo 3 card, which is my secondary monitor09:30
jeenyusnoboarderso none of you know anything about the add on cd?09:30
alexandrejaro> What key(s) do you press to make you resolution switch?09:30
MWettendorffthis n00b here is in badly need of help from some one that can help with instructions to apache/php/mysql setup09:30
navaronecollinder you are using gnomefreak's method09:30
collindergnomefreak: it autodetects my voodoo 3 card, which was my secondary monitor when i had windows installed09:30
collindernavarone: yes09:30
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navaronecollinder> do you have two vidcards installed in same machine?09:31
collindernavarone: yes09:31
navaroneumm09:31
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tonyyarussoHow do I make the gstreamer plugins recognized by Firefox?09:31
collindernavarone: nvidia geforce fx 5200 and a voodoo 309:31
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NecrocideWhere do I install cursors? :) Anyone knows?09:31
navaroneI don't know how linux handles dual vidcards...and different ones at that09:31
skierkegaardhow do I get my wireless card to be configured?09:32
gnomefreakcollinder,  me neither :(09:32
collindershit09:32
zandaaSeveas?09:32
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gnomefreakNecrocide, did you look in synaptic for them?09:32
navaronecollinder eaqsies tthing to do is remove voodoo card09:32
mkyb14anyone here use wine?09:32
Necrocidegnomefreak, no. I downloaded em from a website gnome-looks.org09:32
freddyhello je suis nouveau comment a marche ?09:32
Falstiusmkyb14: only when my wife is being stubborn.09:32
simonvalloreHello i have an issue when i installed ubuntu i had a usb drive plugged in with two other installs on it well the grub picked it up so how do i edit the grub and remove them ?09:32
collindernavarone: it will auto detect the nvidia card then ? cause i already downloaded the packets for nvidia09:33
mkyb14how do you install apps?09:33
tonyyarussomkyb14: Only for one app.09:33
mkyb14i can't figure it out for the life of me09:33
collinderima start the computer over in a second then im gonna take the voodoo 3 card out09:33
mkyb14i know but i can't figure out how to install trillian09:33
Falstiusmkyb14: just run the install program using wine "wine setup.exe"09:33
liam01simonvallore, sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.list09:33
gnomefreakNecrocide, not sure how to change them09:33
navaronecollinder if not you can simply adjust xorg.conf but I assume you have already installeddrivers?09:33
mkyb14heh where is that located?09:33
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tonyyarussosimonvallore: sudo pico /boot/grub/menu.lst09:33
NecrocideOk09:33
Necrocidethanks anyway09:33
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Storkmehi, i have a partition i need to get rid of but i don't know how09:33
collindernavarone: i installed drivers for nvidia and xinewhatever09:33
gnomefreakmkyb14, why not use gaim its pretty much same and already installed by default09:34
alexandresimonvallore> edit /boot/grub/menu.lst09:34
mkyb14i have some plugins i use with trillian09:34
navaronecollinder...then you may have to simply edit xorg.conf to enable nvidia...usually mean putting "nvidia" in driver section09:34
collindernavarone: how do i do that from where i am now?09:34
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mkyb14 so where is this wine setup.exe?09:35
tonyyarussomkyb14: Have you checked to see if there are gaim ones to do the same thing?09:35
Falstiusmkyb14: there are a lot of plugins available for gaim too, and there is spell checking, and the interface is nicer.  I use trillium in windows but gaim in linux.09:35
zandaaSeveas: can you help set up your repository??? (it still does not work)09:35
navaronecollinder you can edit text files in terminal...remove vidcard first and see if autodetect thingy works09:35
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MWettendorffthis n00b here is in badly need of help from some one that can help with instructions to apache/php/mysql setup09:35
mkyb14yes. ok i get that lol, but how do i install apps so i can play games etc?09:35
collindernavarone: ok doin that now...09:35
tonyyarussomkyb14: No, wine is the command, setup.exe would be the setup program for whatever you want to install.09:35
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liam01mkyb14: sudo apt-get install wine09:35
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mkyb14oh09:35
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mkyb14i did taht09:36
simonvalloreIs there a program to edit the grub that would make life easier09:36
dieselMWettendorff: ask your question09:36
gnomefreakmkyb14, try typing wine in terminal09:36
mkyb14so it's like ">wine winamp.exe"?09:36
mkyb14i did09:36
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mkyb14i add'd winamp to the list09:36
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liam01simonvallore, use gedit09:36
mkyb14just don't know how to execute it09:36
liam01its pretty easy09:36
simonvallorei am09:36
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Falstiusmkyb14: wine "c:\program files\winamp\winamp.exe"09:36
tonyyarussosimonvallore: All you're doing is deleting a section entirely, so that shouldn't be to bad.09:37
Falstiusor something like that, I'm not sure exactly where winamp is installed.09:37
mkyb14heh how to i install winamp to that directory though?09:37
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tonyyarussomkyb14: It should ask that while you're running the setup.09:37
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simonvalloretonyyarusso, i need to add a section O_O09:37
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simonvalloretonyyarusso, for my xp installation09:37
alexandretonyyarusso> Hey, talking about grub, do you know how to change the default entry?09:38
MWettendorffDisel: i have installe apache/php5/Mysql, but i cant figure out how to make the apache use the PHP and the sql.09:38
tonyyarussosimonvallore: Ah.  I don't know of any auto-editor, but I have a dual-boot with XP so I might be able to walk you through it.09:38
mkyb14what i did was "winecfg" add the app to the list.... i dont' knwo that to do from there09:38
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tonyyarussoalexandre: You mean the one that boots automatically?  Then yes.09:38
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MWettendorffdisel: i also need to setup away for me to admin the SQl from a windows PC.. and a way to uploade pages from that same PC09:38
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AbdulSpiegelhi09:39
simonvalloretonyyarusso, i dual boot cxp and have done so succefully several time but this time its gheyed up09:39
collindernavarone: ok my computer is restarting09:39
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simonvalloretony ill brb gonna try this09:39
alexandretonyyarusso> That's exactly what I'm wondering. Whatever I try, it keeps booting the very first entry in the list.09:39
collindernavarone: sorry im at work were tryiong to get our gas turned on... its 52 in here09:39
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dieselMWettendorff: How did you install apache/php5/mysql?09:39
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oggahHi, how to remove mozilla?09:40
navaronecollinder...np...you seems to be having a busy day...lol09:40
oggahgot mozilla and firefox installed. but want mozilla away.09:40
collindernavarone: i got that blue screen again where it says that its failed to start the x server09:40
tonyyarussoalexandre: Find the entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst, make sure it is uncommented, and then change the number to the entry you want to use (0 is first).09:40
collindernavarone: yeah and all my appts today are usually at night so it will be very cold in here if we dont have heat09:40
MWettendorffdisel: sudo apt-get install Apache2.. and the same with PHP509:40
navaroneokay collinder ctrl-alt-f1 into another terminal09:41
mweMWettendorff: did you read and follow the lamp wiki? once it's working you can use phpMyAdmin to manage the databases.09:41
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collindernavarone: ok im in09:41
navaronecollinder I am assuming you are on another computer atm...?09:41
alexandretonyyarusso> Gee! It was so easy I didn't even see it... Talk about a tree hiding the frigging forest! ;-)09:41
alexandretonyyarusso> Thanks a lot!09:41
collindernavarone: yes i have ubuntu on a lap top09:41
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MWettendorffdisel: and for the MySQl, i ran sudo apt-get insstall mysql-server, libapache2-mod-auth-mysql, php5-mysql09:42
collindernavarone: i just got so fed up with microsoft the other day09:42
ProN00bwhy am i getting09:42
ProN00bThe following packages have been kept back:09:42
ProN00b  linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-38609:42
ProN00b?09:42
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tonyyarussoalexandre: Glad to be of service!09:42
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mkyb14ok i got it, but i get an error opening files for writing....09:42
mweMWettendorff: you need to other things too. it's all in the wiki09:42
bur[n] eranyone know how to fix gmplayer so that it runs... says it needs a skin09:42
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Falstiusdoes ubuntu have a command line tool for configuring services, a chkconfig analog?09:42
navaronecollinder ok...typ sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf  you will be asked for password...type user pass and enter...file will open for editting. Use pageup/dwn to scroll down to device section09:43
tonyyarussoProN00b: As I understand it that is the default, although you can override it if you want to upgrade the kernel.09:43
diesel!lamp09:43
ubotuI guess lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP09:43
collinderok09:43
collinder1 sec09:43
bur[n] erFalstius: invoke-rc.d start/stop/restart service09:43
dieselMWettendorff:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP09:43
MWettendorffdisel: thanks..09:43
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collindernavarone: ok its blank09:43
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Falstiusbur[n] er: that sounds more like the "service" command09:44
franfarHello to everybody! Do you know how to make the sound of videos made with Canon IXUS 500 work fine?09:44
bur[n] erFalstius: there's 'services-admin' for a gui... though I know you want command line09:44
bobwcan i install a debian package file on my ubuntu server??09:44
collindernaarone: the last time i did this there was stuff here09:44
bur[n] erFalstius: yeah, you're right09:44
navaronecollinder ok...you use arrow keys to move cursor...backspace deletes...in device section for vidcard what does it have...?09:44
dieselMWettendorff: You're on the right track, but still missing some things...specificaly libapache2-mod-php509:44
collinderoh09:44
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MWettendorffdisel: doest that also explain how to set it up so i can FTP from another PC? ( running windows)09:44
navaronecollinder  blank?09:44
tonyyarussoCan someone help me register gstreamer codec stuff as plugins with Firefox?09:44
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navaronecollinder> check what file path you used...09:44
FalstiusI can use the gui, I can do it by deleting the links, but it would be nice to use a command line tool with dependency checking.09:44
TomcwHi, I'm new to linux, and I'm trying to get a Belkin F5D7050 wifi USB adaptor, which has RT2500 chipset to work on Ubantu, according to the Ubantu website, support for that particular chipset is built in and the wifi adaptor will work out of the box. When I go into SYSTEM>ADMINISTRATION>NETWORKING (in gnome) the wifi device is not shown. So does anyone have any ideas what's causing this?09:44
Dr_Acemasterwhen activating a network connection under system>administration>networking, is that the same as ifup connection?09:44
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mweMWettendorff: it doesn't09:44
mweMWettendorff: just install and configure an ftp server for that09:45
collindernavarone yes, all i see is at the top gnu nano 1.3.8 the file name and then at the bottom (like a footer) it says new file09:45
mkyb14 wine "c:\program files\winamp\winamp.exe"  doesn't open the program after i installed it with WINE09:45
collinderfile - /etc/x11/xorg.conf09:45
BenUrbanhow do i switch to hardware opengl mode?09:45
BenUrban(i use fglrx btw)09:45
bur[n] ermkyb14: use ~/.wine/drive_c/program files/...09:45
tritiummkyb14, why not use xmms, beep media player, or muine?  They're quite similar to winamp09:45
tonyyarussomkyb14: Try it withough the quotes?09:45
BenUrbandoes ubuntu have something equivalent to "opengl-update ati"?09:45
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navaronecollinder you may have opens a new file...lol...okay path to file is this...and and X is X not x.../etc/X11/xorg.conf09:46
chrisx1hey09:46
MWettendorffi better return, when im ready for that.. it is only 2  day since i startet playing with this OS09:46
dieselMWettendorff: I would not install ftp if all you want to do is work on MySQL.  I would install phpmyadmin which will allow you to work on MYSQL from any browser anywhere09:46
collinderooooh09:46
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collinderdAMN09:46
collinderLOL09:46
bobwcan i install a debian package file on my ubuntu server??09:46
chrisx1!win32codecs09:46
ubotuit has been said that win32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/09:46
bur[n] erbobw: u "can" but it's not advisec09:46
tritiumbobw, it's better not to.  Which one?09:46
chrisx1!java09:46
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs09:46
collindershit my desktop just restarted09:46
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tritiumno foul language, please, collinder09:47
collindersorry09:47
tonyyarussobobw: I would assume so, although I'm just running desktop, not server.  Can you tell everyone what you've tried?09:47
navaronecollinder ubuntu desktop?09:47
tritiumno worries09:47
mkyb14says that "use command" not found09:47
jdiercan anyone tell me where the config file is for the desktop menu?  I mean the menu that pops up when you right click in an empty space on the desktop09:47
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collinderif you knew the day im havin... youd understand09:47
MWettendorffdisel: 2 sec.. yo just burned a fuce here..09:47
bobwtritium, its a debian package called libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.209:47
tritiumsorry to hear that, collinder09:47
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mkyb14lol this is a pain... no i'm doing this to do it.. to learn i dont' care what program i use in wine09:47
MWettendorffdisel: to much infomation i think09:47
tritiumbobw, there should be an ubuntu equivalent09:47
collinderbesides "foul language" in new york is like adding a comma09:47
tritiumbobw, apt-cache search libstdc++09:47
chrisx1collinder, my pc crashed earlier n if u was in my family ud understand how stressed i get09:47
collindernavaron: no my computer just restarted, i think the power went out and then restarted09:48
franfardoes somebody know how to make gdesklets start automatically every time I restart???09:48
BenUrbanc,o,l,l,i,n,d,e,r,09:48
chrisx1im 15 n my dad pased away09:48
navaroneaaaa collinder...fergitabotit09:48
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dieselMWettendorff: one other thing...spelling my nick would be nice so that I can see that you are chatting directly with me09:48
jdierfranfar, go to your sessions menu and add there09:48
collinderchrisx1: i have to surgically implant ptfe teflon and surgical steel into some guys privates at 9pm today09:48
navaronecollinder ouch09:48
collinderthink about that09:48
rambo3mkyb14 , tab your way to the program . cd .wine/c_ (tab)09:48
collindernavarone09:48
collindernack in terminal09:48
jdierfranfar - system, preferences, sessions09:48
dieselMWettendorff: why do you want to install FTP?  For what purpose?09:48
tonyyarussobobw: If I remember correctly, it was libstdc++6.09:48
collinderback09:48
mkyb14wha's that mean09:49
BenUrbancollinder: do you plan to anesthetize him first?09:49
bobwtritium, tonyyarusso , do i want the development files?09:49
collinderits illegal to do that in new york state09:49
navaronecollinder type sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:49
MWettendorffdiesel: want to be abel to upload webpages from my main PC.09:49
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chrisx1collinder, thats ur job right? my dad was ill n doctors sed there ppl worse than him he died 3 days later...09:49
tritiumbobw, well, what are you needing this package for?09:49
chrisx1the doctors in the uk are absolutly useless09:49
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collinderbenurban: anything that makes the area numb is illegal in new york state09:49
BenUrban...09:50
BenUrbanwtf09:50
bobwtritium, Lotus domino server09:50
collinderchrisx: i do body mod and piercings and make jewelry09:50
BenUrbanohh09:50
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tritiumbobw, you don't need -dev packages, then09:50
chrisx1kool09:50
dieselMWettendorff: cool, now I can tell that you are speaking directly to me...If you want a secure and easy way to upload web pages from a windows pc to your ubuntu box I would look into installing WinSCP on windows and ssh server on ubuntu09:50
chrisx1the doctors could of helped my dad ages ago09:50
franfarjdier - I'm sorry, but I don't know how to do that, I'm using X-Chat09:50
chrisx1he had emphysemia or something09:50
BenUrbanso how do i turn on hardware acceleration with fglrx?09:50
bobwtritum, thanks ill try it out09:50
chrisx1they could perscribe some tables09:50
chrisx1to clear the disease09:50
jdier can anyone tell me where the config file is for the desktop menu?  I mean the menu that pops up when you right click in an empty space on the desktop?09:50
chrisx1but they wouldnt09:50
collindernavarone: im in i got it09:51
Stormx2Firefox isn't printing properly.09:51
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mkyb14ok i tab'd there09:51
tritiumchrisx1, I don't believe emphysema can be cured with pills09:51
BenUrbanjdier: i don't think there is one09:51
rambo3good09:51
thegladiatori am considering fresh ubntu install09:51
chrisx1i read on google09:51
navaronecollinder ok pageup/dwn to scroll and find section Device with vidcard name in it09:51
jdierBenUrban, No way to change that menu?09:51
thegladiatorcan some help me with a few FAQ's ?09:51
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jdierFranfar, are you running ubuntu?09:51
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dieselthegladiator: yes, ask09:51
TomcwHello?  I'm new to linux, and I'm trying to get a Belkin F5D7050 wifi USB adaptor, which has RT2500 chipset to work on Ubantu, according to the Ubantu website, support for that particular chipset is built in and the wifi adaptor will work out of the box. When I go into SYSTEM>ADMINISTRATION>NETWORKING (in gnome) the wifi device is not shown. So does anyone have any ideas what's causing this?09:52
BenUrbanjdier: i dunno for sure but i've never seen any reference to being able to change it09:52
thegladiatorthanks...09:52
tonyyarussochrisx1: Maybe slowed down, but not cured.09:52
jdierBenUrban, thanks09:52
collindernavarone: ok i see the other video card that i took out09:52
BenUrbantomaw-: try enabling usb ;)09:52
tritiumchrisx1, don't believe everything you read on the internet09:52
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Tomcwof course, it is enabled09:52
navaronecollinder do you see nvidia anywhere?09:52
collindernavarone actually i see 2 sections for monitors09:52
franfarjdier - Yes, version 5.10, but I never used this program before...09:52
BenUrbantomaw-: what does dmesg say?09:52
Tomcwhow do i do dmsg?09:53
BenUrbantomaw-: type 'dmesg' in a terminal09:53
navaronecollinder there should be Monitor section and Something Screen with monitor mentioned09:53
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jdierfranfar - I was answering your question about how to start gdesklets automatically when a session starts.09:53
BenUrban!fglrx09:53
ubotuhmm... fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto09:53
thegladiatordoes ubntu have mp3 support ?09:53
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cozhello all09:53
dieselthegladiator: yes09:53
harfoozhi all. I have breezy on my laptop, and when I boot it, there is a really, really long pause while the network (wired and wireless, I presume) try to locate a connection. I'd like to have them activated only when I manually do so after logging in.09:53
thegladiatorby default ?09:53
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collindernavarone: i see selection "device" and it identifies it as the voodoo and then it says driver nvidia09:54
coz I get this problem all the time and always cannot remember how to do it09:54
dieselthegladiator: no09:54
thegladiatori have 5.1009:54
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thegladiatori see09:54
cozI have a tar.gz package09:54
thegladiatorand what about video acpabilities ?09:54
franfarjdier - Oh thanks, could you tell me how to do that? Is bcause is very annoing to start manually every time09:54
collindernavarone: and then under that it says selection monitor09:54
jdierfranfar - from the gnome or ubuntu menu choose system, then choose preferences, then choose session09:54
thegladiatorcapabilities ?09:54
cozI want install it how do I do that09:54
XxFREDdiexXi need help running amercians army09:54
harfoozso that I can quickly boot, and then select the network that I want activated once booted.09:54
tritiumcoz, is there no ubuntu package of what you want to install?09:54
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collindernavarone: and then under that ts selection screen09:54
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BenUrbancoz: tar -xzvf, configure, make, sudo make install09:54
chrisx1tritium, i went to see my dad today and he looked well peacefull and happy09:54
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navaronecollinder I am going to paste my Device section for my Geforce3...will proably apply to you as well...09:54
dieselthegladiator: what about video?09:54
chrisx1he was just led there tritium09:54
collinderok09:54
cozno .deb package yet09:54
navarone!pastebin09:54
ubotupastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com09:54
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tritiumchrisx1, sorry to hear that he is ill09:54
thegladiatorlike it wouldnt have divx avi support by default09:54
thegladiatorso what will i have to do for that ?09:55
tritiumcoz, which software?09:55
chrisx1hes not anymore tritium09:55
BenUrbananyone know of a way to convert an ebuild to a deb?09:55
XxFREDdiexXhow do i boot up amercis army09:55
dieselthegladiator: true09:55
collinderit should the only thing that isnt the same with nvidia is everything before mx and geforce 2s09:55
TomcwDmesg said too much to type in on the other computer - is there anything I should be looking for?09:55
cozBenUrban the -xzvf is that the package name09:55
diesel!restrictedformats09:55
ubotuwell, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats09:55
chrisx1tritium, i think hes very happy09:55
thegladiatordiesel, using synaptic what all can i install ?09:55
harfooz(lost my wireless for a second there!)09:55
BenUrbantomaw-: the last few lines after you plug in the device should refer to it09:55
tritiumchrisx1, I'm very sorry.  I too lost my father.09:55
chrisx1tritium, how old r u?09:55
dieselthegladiator: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormat09:55
tritiumchriswk, 32 now, 13 when he passed09:55
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maartenhi09:56
dieselthegladiator: Enable more than the default repositories09:56
chrisx1yer tritium my youngest sister is 10 im 1509:56
bobwtritium, i remember the issue now......i need a package from oldstable, its on the debian website in /oldlibs/libstdc++2.9glibc2.109:56
dieselthegladiator: for use with synaptic09:56
chrisx1anyhoo be back like 10 mins walkin dogs09:56
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OtisI'd like to install Ubuntu on a machine that dual-boots into Windows and an old Mandrake install ... will the installer overwrite the existing boot loader and allow me to dual-boot between Ubuntu and Windows ?09:56
tritiumchrisx1, take care09:56
cozBenUrbasn assume that i am a doof could you please be specific about this tar.bz09:56
iglehola09:56
tritiumbobw, I see09:56
franfarjdier - Oh I see! but... the thing is that since Gdesklets is on the Programs menu, I can't find on that dialogue (startup programs)09:56
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tritium!es09:56
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.09:56
TomcwUnfortuanately, the wifi device is on this computer at the moment - but dmesg does refer to the device being disconnected09:56
maarteni am making changes to /etc/kde3/kdmrc, but they have no effect09:56
navaronehttp://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/556509:56
Torez04Hi. Does the restart command come defaultwith Ubuntu09:56
Torez04?09:56
bobwtritium, is there a place on ubuntu's site where i can get the .deb....im brand new to ubuntu09:56
tritiumcoz, what's the software?09:57
MWettendorffdiesel: let me do 1 thing at the time. im a old man, and my fuches burns over a litle easy, when it comes to Linux..09:57
navaronehttp://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/556509:57
maartenany idea why?09:57
thegladiatordiesel, and what about the boat loader ?09:57
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tritiumbobw, there may not be that particular package, given its age09:57
thegladiatorwill it keep my fc4 and XP ?09:57
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cozit is gnocky-0.0.3.tar.bz for nokia phones09:57
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navaronecollinder go to this url and transfer this section to the vidcard device section in your conf file http://pastebin.ubuntulinux/556509:57
thegladiatorlike i dont wanna remove it straighaway09:57
dieselthegladiator: what about the boot loader?  Ask the question man09:57
Rockshmocould anybody PM me with assistance?09:57
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maarten/etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc that is09:57
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bobwtritum, does ubuntu have a search package area/09:58
dieselMWettendorff: Have you installed libapache2-mod-php5 to get php5 to work with Apache2?09:58
thegladiatordiesel > currently > fc4 has grub installed and it asks me for the kernel etc...so when i install ubntu what happens ?09:58
crimsunhttp://packages.ubuntu.com09:58
jdierfranfar  you are not looking for start up menu.  You are looking for the systems menu.  At the bottom or top of your screen there is a panel or menu bar that has the ubuntu logo, then <applications> <places> <system>....  yes?09:58
crimsunit's also available via the firefox search tab in the upper right corner09:58
collinderit doesnt work09:58
collinderthe link09:58
Lewixtoshiba M45-s16909:58
crimsuns/tab/text entry field/09:58
thegladiatordiesel, hope u get the question :)09:58
Torez04Why does my Ubuntu say command not found with the command 'restart'09:58
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navaronehttp:pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/556509:58
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dieselthegladiator: No, I don't understand the question.09:59
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MWettendorffdiesel: not yet.. im reading the guide you gave a link to...09:59
OtisI'd like to install Ubuntu on a machine that dual-boots into Windows and an old Mandrake install ... will the installer overwrite the existing boot loader and allow me to dual-boot between Ubuntu and Windows ?09:59
Lewixhas someone got a toshiba M45-S169 or a graphic card ATI RADEON XPRESS 200M09:59
collindernavarone: the link doesnt work09:59
psusiTorez04: because there is no such command09:59
Dr_AcemasterOtis yes09:59
bur[n] erOtis: yep09:59
psusiTorez04: maybe you meant shutdown -r now?09:59
OtisDr_Acemaster: thanks !09:59
navaronehttp://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/556510:00
MWettendorffdiesel: is there a way that i can uninstall it all, so i can follow that guide right down to the dot?10:00
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Torez04Nah. I'm trying to do an init.d/networking restart10:00
Torez04And it's having none of it10:00
collindernavarone: got it thanks10:00
franfarjdier - yes, I found that place on System>Preferences>Sesions>Programs at startup right?10:00
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jdierfranfar  you want the <System> menu  from there you want the <Preferences> menu from there choose <Sessions>10:00
chalcedonyFalstius: still on ? (maybe people are done calling me now ;)10:00
OtisDr_Acemaster: but wouldn't that mean that the installer has to be able to understand the existing bootloader and to "migrate" it to the new one ?10:00
collindernavarone: its agp10:00
jdierfranfar, you are rocking now!!!10:00
thegladiatordiesel -> like when i boot fc4 menu comes up asking my OS to boot XP and FC4 ( 2 kernels)10:00
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franfarjdier - thanks!10:01
navaronecollinder this should get your x sever started...but you may need help with mouse or keyboard as well10:01
thegladiatordiesel, initially , what happens when i install ubuntu ?10:01
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collindernavarone, ok ill try thanks10:01
khonishello10:01
navaronecollinder mine is agp as well10:01
maarteni want to setup a passwordless login for my 4 year old daughter. any idea how to do that?10:01
chalcedonywell.. anyway, the Ubuntu computer is seeing the OfficeJet7200 printer and shows three printing jobs: Pending Printer-stopped. The printer is actually ON and looks fine but isn't responding at all. Falstius or someone?10:01
dieselthegladiator: the same thing will happen with Ubuntu.  I install windows first and then I install Ubuntu.  Grub (the default Ubuntu) boot loader should recognize your windows parition10:01
cozOk guys I am trying to install an app for nokia phones named "gnocky"10:01
collindernavarone. oh ok10:01
cozit is in a tar.bz package10:01
cozhow do I install this?10:01
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ubuntu_hi, i need help with partitioning, i'm using the livecd right now. what i want to do is merge all partitions into one10:02
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coztar.gz10:02
Stormx2checking for   gstreamer-0.8 >= 0.8   gstreamer-control-0.8 >= 0.8... configure: error: you need gstreamer development packages installed !10:02
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dieselMWettendorff: You could probably just start from where you are at the moment and follow the guide10:02
rambo3there is option for autologin on gdm config10:02
thegladiatordiesel, and the fc4 options will remain as well , i am going to install in a diff partition10:02
franfarbut, the thing is that when I say add - it asks me for a program that I can't reach because it's placed in a menu (Gdesklets - accesories)10:02
Stormx2>.> But what are the gstreamer dev packages called?10:02
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bur[n] erubuntu_: you shouldn't do that... you should keep a swap10:02
navaronehmmm...are agp devices id'ed as pci in xorg.conf?10:02
dieselthegladiator: yes10:02
bur[n] erubuntu_: but... "sudo gparted" will help out10:02
thegladiatordiesel, i see10:02
ubuntu_bur[n] er, i ran that, i don't understand it10:03
recon0does anyone know how to add ssh v.1 support to sshd?10:03
mdeboeri am making changes to /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc, but they have no effect10:03
Torez04psusi, I'm trying to restart networking. How do I do it if there's no such restart command, which according to guides on forums, there is..?10:03
ubuntu_bur[n] er, hence why i needed help10:03
dieselthegladiator: so you have windows on partition 1, fc4 on part. 2, and want to install Ubuntu on partion 3?10:03
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bur[n] erubuntu_: good luck :)10:03
DrBairrecon0:  config files are in /etc/sshd10:03
thegladiatordiesel, correct10:03
ubuntu_bur[n] er, you're not helping?10:03
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jdierfranfar - click the add button then type <gdesklests> in the Startup command box10:03
MWettendorffdiesel: if i can figure out where that is :)10:03
triodeI need help setting up a USB sound card, can anybody help me?10:03
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collindernavarone: there is also a section that says selection screen and it lists that the voodoo3 is the device10:03
kentoqHey10:04
Stormx2Hi10:04
recon0DrBair,so i have to edit a config file? i should be ok10:04
kentoqCould anyone assist a bit10:04
bur[n] erubuntu_: it's tough... if vino did reverse VNC, I'd be all about it10:04
dieselthegladiator: Grub should handle those paritions just fine.10:04
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dieselthegladiator: *should* being the important word here10:04
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ubuntu_it says i have /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda5, why do i have two?10:04
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thegladiatordiesel, i see and what about the software package ? like kde is available ?10:04
TomcwHello? Does anyone have any idead on how I can get my wifi USB thing to work on ubantu (see messages above)?10:04
kentoqHow to get my Broadcomm-WLAN-drivers to Ubuntu.?10:04
bur[n] erubuntu_: what format are both of them?  one is probably a swap10:05
franfarjdier - ok, what about the order? (it says 50), I left it as is.10:05
ubuntu_bur[n] er, one is ext3 and the other is extended10:05
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triodeHello, can anybody help me set up my usb sound card, please?10:05
chalcedonywell.. anyway, the Ubuntu computer is seeing the OfficeJet7200 printer and shows three printing jobs: Pending Printer-stopped. The printer is actually ON and looks fine but isn't responding at all. It prints fine from debian with lp filename.10:05
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bur[n] erubuntu_: and inside that extended is something10:05
dieselthegladiator: even if you install ubuntu (not kubuntu, not xubuntu) you can still get KDE and use KDE as the default desktop...just involves more steps and knowing a little bit about what you are doing.10:05
jdierfranfar - I left mine along at 5010:05
bur[n] erubuntu_: /dev/hda1 == your install10:05
mycketubuntu_, did you repartiotion your hdd? Or do you have another OS on it?10:05
dieselthegladiator: if you want KDE desktop by default, then I would download Kubuntu10:06
bur[n] erubuntu_: /dev/hda5 is probably a swap10:06
ubuntu_mycket, i screwed up the partition while trying to install ubuntu10:06
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ubuntu_bur[n] er, it's 8GB10:06
Otisare you guys saying that windows partitions will be recognised by installation regardless of what kind of bootloader was there first ?10:06
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franfarjdier, thank you very much for your help, you've been very nice!10:06
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thegladiatordiesel, nah i like many dke utilities...kview , kpdf10:06
HyPer7!fixres10:06
ubotufixres is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto10:06
bur[n] erubuntu_: well, why do you have it, whats on it?  mount it?  u sure it's not a swap... gparted tells you10:06
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collindernavarone: and hopw do i get out of this once i am done10:06
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dieselthegladiator: then I would download Kubuntu and install that10:06
ubuntu_also, i have an "Unallocated" partition which is 20GB, what can i do with that?10:06
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jdierfranfar - I am a newbie too.  I just happened to have figured out that exact thing last week.10:07
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ubuntu_bur[n] er, it doesn't say swap anywhere10:07
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dieselthegladiator: or do you just want to use those utilities and still have gnome?10:07
MWettendorffdiesel: i just ran  sudo bin/mysql_install_db --user=mysql and now it sais that i have to copy some support-files/mysql.server to the right place. how adn where do i finde thoes?? (If that is something i need to do)10:07
mycketubuntu_, you should create 2 partitions one ext3 or reiserfs for the system and one swap.10:07
Torez04Can someone please tell me if there's a command to restart etc/init.d/networking?10:07
bur[n] erubuntu_: it probably says something... what does it say under "Filesystem" ?10:07
mdeboeri want to setup a passwordless login for my 4 year old daughter. any idea how to do that? i read http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-27995.html this thread but it does not really come to an answer10:07
navaronecollinder have you added the section about nvidia?10:07
bobo_Torez04: "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"    should work; "sudo networking restart" in the /etc/init.d dirctory won't work10:07
collindernavarone: i was supposed to add cause i replaced10:08
Izzyanyone do ubuntu server installs for a few $$?10:08
navaronecollinder "selection" screen or Section Screen?10:08
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ubuntu_bur[n] er, the unallocated one says nothing, /dev/hda1/ says "extended"10:08
triodeI need help setting up a USB sound card in ubuntu10:08
triodeanybody?10:08
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thegladiatordiesel i need to keep those things on gnome10:08
ubuntu_mycket, i don't know how10:08
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mycketubuntu_, if you want to install your system you can use the installproram to create these10:08
bur[n] erubuntu_: unallocated shouldn't say anything because it's formatted10:08
thegladiatordiesel, can we chat pvt10:08
Torez04bobo_, I keep getting told that the command isn't found though10:08
ubuntu_bur[n] er, the partition name is unallocated10:08
collindernavarone: i replaced what was in the selection "device" section but there is also a selection "screen"section10:08
bur[n] erubuntu_: are you sure hda1 says extended?  did you install ubuntu?10:08
navaronecollinder...have you saved file?10:08
TomcwDoes anyone kow hoe I can make my rt2500 wifi card work on ubantu, I have tried what it says on the website10:08
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collindernavarone: no10:08
oggahrunning the ubuntu-lite-desktop thing now. checked used ram. 60Mbyte ;)10:08
bur[n] erubuntu_: unallocated means you can make a partition ont hat space10:09
ubuntu_bur[n] er, of course, i was using it a minute ago10:09
cozanyone know how to install a .tar.gz package10:09
dieselthegladiator: yeah, you can still get kde apps while using gnome.  For example, I have k3b (an excellent disk burning app) installed on my Gnome desktop and my Gnome desktop is running the xfce window manager.10:09
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thegladiatorhi10:09
bur[n] erubuntu_: now rezise your hda1 onto that unallocated area10:09
ubuntu_bur[n] er, it doesn't let me10:09
dieselthegladiator: you can do all kinds of things10:09
mycketubuntu_, do you have a live-cd or the install-cd? The install cd guides you throgh the install process10:09
navaronecollinder under Monitor section and device nvidia does it have a Section "Screen" with vidcard?10:09
tonyyarussoCan someone help me manually make symbolic links to plugins for Firefox?10:09
psusicoz: .tar.gz is not a package format... it's a gzip compressed tar archive10:09
psusicoz: i.e. .zip10:09
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ubuntu_bur[n] er, it says i'm only allowed to resize /dev/hda1/ to 28GB max10:09
cozthanks but how to install?10:09
bur[n] erubuntu_: apply the changes to delete the first partition10:09
dieselMWettendorff: I don't know the answer to your question...sorry10:10
ubuntu_oh right10:10
triodehi10:10
bur[n] erubuntu_: and what free space is left?  is there another partition at all? or just /dev/hda110:10
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thegladiatordiesel, my broadband speed is limited10:10
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psusicoz: you don't 'install' it... you might extract the files that are stored in it if you want... double click on it10:11
franfarOh, it's very welcome help form all people on this linux thingy10:11
franfarBye!10:11
collindernavarone: selection screen lists  identifier "default screen" device "3dfx voodoo 3" monitor pnp default depth 16 subselection displays - and then it lies about size choice10:11
collinderxcause you cant choose any of those sizes10:11
collinderjust 640 x 48010:11
recon0DrBair, i've been through the config file man page and i can't figure out how to get ssh v.1 support10:11
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chrisx1Back10:12
thegladiatordiesel, and i need to get those k applications mostly + kdevelop + all those necessary multimedia players adn codecs10:12
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drkfiberHi.10:12
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Izzyanyone do ubuntu server installs for a few $$?10:12
MWettendorffdiesel: that is oki.. i was just hoping. i figure that it aint that important.. going to next step10:12
thegladiatordiesel, and java ofcourse10:12
navaronehttp://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/556610:12
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bryanHey people, installed Ubuntu last night, just looking for help to get my Sound working.10:12
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thegladiatordiesel, hwo much mb do u think these will be ? my speed is 256 kbps hence i am curious10:12
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drkfiberAnyone use MythTV on 5.10. I am trying to import DVD's and nothing happens when I select that option. I am using all the standard packages from apt-get.10:12
Hobbsee!tell bryan about sound10:13
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navaronecollinder try that...it is my section but is for Geforece 3...I don't know if it is suitable totally for your card...but it may get you up and running10:13
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diesel!java10:13
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs10:13
chrisx1!tell chrisx1 about ntfs10:13
triodebryan, what kind of sound?10:13
Torez04According to Ubuntu, when I type "sudo etc/init.d/networking restart", "etc/init.d/networking" is command not found. Changing it around so it's "sudo restart etc/yadaryadar" says restart isn't a command. Shutdown -r to try and reboot the system says I have to be root. Is my Ubuntu bummed?10:13
TomcwHello, I'm sorry to keep asking, but does anyone know how I can get my Belkin F5d7050 aka RT2500 wifi usb adaptor to work on ubantu. According to the website it should work out of the box, but for me it does not even show up in network settings?10:13
thegladiatorokay about java10:13
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navaronetorez sudo shutdown -r now10:13
thegladiatorwhat about the rest ?10:13
holycowheh10:13
dotsonyif I write a custom /etc/network/interfaces script will the network administration tool step on it later?10:13
holycowi killed totem yet the sound is still playing for the movie10:14
chrisx1!ntfs10:14
ubotuit has been said that ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions10:14
ubuntu__bur[n] er, i'll show you a screenshot: http://img491.imageshack.us/img491/2750/screenshot8fu.png10:14
bobo_Torez04: just did it on my breezy and it worked-maybe look to make sure networking command is in the /etc/init.d directory. also "sudo ./networking restart" should work in the /etc/init.d directory10:14
thegladiatorkdeveleop for software development and movie players codecs and k utilities10:14
dieselthegladiator: if you have ubuntu installed and want to get KDE apps, then you will have a lot of MB to download because dpkg will download the KDE dependent libraries10:14
mmiikkee12is there an install method that will let me choose the packages i want?10:14
Kyralmmiikkee12: server install10:14
navaroneTorez04 you need sudo in command10:14
mmiikkee12ok10:14
psusiTorez04: what the heck are you trying to do exactlY/  reboot the computer?10:14
thegladiatori see how much do u think that cud run upto ? 500 MB+ ?10:14
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Kyralmmiikkee12: it will leave you with noting but the commandline10:14
mmiikkee12Kyral: that won't install mysql, apache, ... ?10:15
collindernavarone: i replaced everything in sectio "device" but in the next section section "monitor" it just saYS identifier pnp monitor options dpms then the next section is section screen and it lists the voodoo stuff10:15
mmiikkee12oh ok10:15
Kyralmmiikkee12: nope10:15
navaronehttp://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/556610:15
thegladiator*sigh* indian broadband is pathethic10:15
navaronecollinder collinder ^^^10:15
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ubuntu__bur[n] er, did you get that?10:15
bur[n] erubuntu__: do you have a lot of work done on that install already?10:15
Torez04I am trying to restart my network! I'm having too many problems with wireless, seemingly like a few other people in here! I just want to restart my networking, but nothing is working, and as you may have guessed, I'm now getting a tad ticked off...10:15
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ubuntu__bur[n] er, yes10:15
dieselthegladiator: where is India?  Bangalore?10:15
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holycowanyone know what would be running to keep on playing the sound of a .mov file when totem is killed off?10:16
bur[n] erubuntu__: in that case, just resize hda5 to the full size of hda110:16
collindernavarone... yeah thats whats in my section "device" section b ut theres still all that voodoo stuff below that10:16
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thegladiatorthis is the  offer that we get out here...256 kbps/2.5 gb per month/for 20$10:16
KyralTorez04: sometimes the best thing to do is walk away for a while10:16
thegladiatornot in bglr now10:16
thegladiatornot in bangalore now10:16
thegladiatorbut everywhere it is the sam10:16
navaroneTorez04 you can shutdown reboot...but you need to use sudo try sudo shutdown -r now to reboot immediately10:16
ubuntu__bur[n] er, you mean make hda1 smaller and make hd5 bigger?10:16
psusiTorez04: I'm not sure exactly what you mean by 'restart networking'10:16
thegladiatorbroadband rates10:16
dell500anyone here know how to  convert flac to mp3??10:16
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bur[n] erubuntu__: nope... hda1 is a container that holds hda510:16
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navaronecollinder...delete any voodoo section/part10:17
cozhave .tar.gz for app10:17
bur[n] erubuntu__: you set up a "logical" or "extended partition"10:17
cozno .deb package yet10:17
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thegladiatori guess in west u get a decent connection for 25$10:17
ubuntu__bur[n] er, hda5 is already as big as it can be10:17
cozhow do Iinstall this???10:17
wftlIs there some non-command line way to identify what the program name of a running GUI app is?  For instance, I know that the CD player is gnome-cd and I can find that out by running "ps ax" and looking, but is there some graphical way for the command line shy?10:17
NecrocideHow do I close port 1027, and port 1026?10:17
bur[n] erubuntu__: it can get bigger... it can fill hda110:17
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psusicoz: I told you... you don't install it... you can extract the files from it... double click on the file to open it10:17
thegladiatorit is sad , but had my broadband been faster i wud have no hesitation in installing ubuntu straightway10:17
Torez04I'm trying to go off a few guides on the forums. One of the solutions to a problem about the default gateway constantly changing, is to edit a file, then supposedly type, "Sudo etc/init.d/networking restart" to put the new file into effect seemingly.10:17
drkfiberwftl: System Monitor10:17
ubuntu__bur[n] er, it says the max size is 8582MB10:17
thegladiatori wouldnt have cared about packages to be installed10:17
Ivani have 2 file systems on my harddrive how do i enter the fat32 system throow fluxbox?10:17
collindernavarone: ok now how do i save>?10:18
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bur[n] erubuntu__: it's wrong... restart gparted?10:18
tonyyarussoTorez04, That might work if you preface etc with a slash; what directory were you in an the time?10:18
dieselwftl: yes...I have used the app before, but I am away from a GUI, so I can't tell you the exact name.10:18
dieselwftl: of the app10:18
Stormx2Ivan: it mounted?10:18
navaronecollinder ctrl-x and press y for yes10:18
collinderok10:18
Torez04just the default directory, not moved anywhere after opening terminal10:18
bobwso what can happen if I install this old libstdc++ debian package to my ubuntu server???...it does install i tested it out10:18
IvanStormx2 mounted?10:18
wftldrkfiber : thought about that. I was looking for something that didn't require you knowing the name of the running app.10:18
ubuntu__bur[n] er, i restarted it and it says the same10:18
wftlThanks, though.10:18
Torez04tried prefacing etc with slash and dot slash. Nothing.10:18
tonyyarussowftl: I'm not sure about running ones, but I did find that for things in the Applications menu, I could find their name by dragging an icon to the desktop, viewing the properties, in the launcher section.10:19
bobo_wftl: system monitor10:19
navaronecollinder now you can reboot or try startx10:19
drkfiberadd System Monitor to your menu bar. then click on it. You can see what Apps are running. You don't need to know the name.10:19
dell500anyone know of a script that might do flac to mp3? i've gotten 2 that don't quite work10:19
ubuntu__bur[n] er, /dev/hda5/ will not go any bigger then 858210:19
thegladiatordiesel, hwo much mb approx ?10:19
bur[n] erubuntu__: i don't know what to say... you can enlarge it though... is it mounted by chance?10:19
Stormx2Ivan: Mounting is allowing you to use the partition. Could you access it on gnome?10:19
thegladiatordiesel, any guesses ?10:19
collinderwow10:19
bur[n] erubuntu__: can you move it first? then resize it?10:19
Ivani dont know how??10:19
collinderok it just spit a bunch of stuff at me 1 sec10:19
Ivanwhere do i press10:19
Torez04Kyral, walking away sounds like a really good idea, but sadly, it's not gonna get me any closer to getting this darned machine to broadcast my internet across my house through my wireless card.10:19
collinderfatal server error n o screens found10:19
dieselthegladiator: do an apt-get install -s <appname> and this will tell you how many mb you will havve to download.  The -s is for simulate10:19
KyralTorez04: I mean then you look at it differently10:19
bobwtritum, so what can happen if I install this old libstdc++ debian package to my ubuntu server???...it does install i tested it out10:19
navaronecollinder try restarting10:20
thegladiatori am on fc4 now10:20
chrisx1msn messenger is starting to suck now10:20
awb4422everyone i try to setup a wireless connection, the gateway device gets erased and the profile i last left in there isnt set as the default10:20
collindernavarone: restaring nowe10:20
ubuntu__bur[n] er, how do i move it?10:20
collindernow10:20
IvanStormx2 is there any 1 to enter it throw fluxbox?10:20
psusiTorez04: cd /etc/init.d and ls... is there no networking file there?10:20
Stormx2Ivan: WhaT?10:20
navaronecollinder I asssume this install was standard...not server or anything10:20
thegladiatordieslel, can i do it in fc4 ? apt-get ?10:20
Ivanfat3210:20
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Stormx2Ivan: All I'm asking is could you access it when you had gnome?10:20
collindernavarone. yeah version 5.110:20
ardchoillechrisx1: M$ apps have always sucked10:20
IvanStormx2 i am using grub to boot10:20
chrisx1yer10:20
Stormx2Ivan: I know.10:20
Torez04Yes there is.10:20
IvanStormx2 i never tried10:20
Stormx2Ivan: Could you access the partition when you were using GNOME?10:21
Stormx2Ivan: Oh?10:21
chrisx1the fact there servers are beggining to lag loads10:21
IvanStormx2 i dont know how to do it?10:21
Stormx2Ivan:10:21
psusiTorez04: then sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart should work10:21
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Stormx2Ivan: try: "ls -l /media" and pastebin the result.10:21
collindernavarone: failed to start x server10:21
Torez04FINALLY we have managed to get somewhere with the restart command, but it's now telling me it's failed...10:21
thegladiatordieslel, can i do it in fc4 ? apt-get ?10:21
wftldrkfiber (and others). The system monitor is a great way to do this, but if I wanted to give this to a non-command line savvy individual, they might not be able to make the connection between the running app and the command listed there.  gnome-cd is a pretty obvious one, but not everything is going to be.10:21
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Stormx2thegladiator: FC doesn't use aptitute10:22
Torez04wait a sec, I think I know why10:22
navaronecollinder is the computer connected to internet?10:22
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Stormx2thegladiator: It uses RPMs10:22
bur[n] erubuntu__: man gparted... gparted.sf.net...10:22
collindernavarone yes10:22
bur[n] erubuntu__: google10:22
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thegladiatorah yep10:22
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IvanStormx2 i only get 2 cd roms and 2 floppys10:22
zukalkhey all10:22
wftlAppreciate the input.10:22
Torez04Nope. Fail on reconfiguring networking interfaces.10:22
Stormx2!tell Ivan about mounting10:22
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