[12:00] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: hold on
[12:00] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: one last try
[12:00] <Millenniumgroup> sure
[12:00] <zandaa> <_< it appears the so-called 'faulty HD' I've been trying to access is my NTFS partition
[12:00] <soundray> Cybercool, is there anything in Printer Name?
[12:00] <Millenniumgroup> Who dares wins ;)
[12:01] <Cybercool> yes, PIXMA-IP1500-Ver.2.50
[12:01] <ardchoille> zandaa: help you with what?
[12:01] <joshi> to move directory command is "md path_from path_to"?
[12:01] <ubun-newbie> how do i install adsl , sudo adsl-setup right
[12:01] <Stormx2> I did sudo bash, that got me root. My system tools still work fine, too.
[12:01] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: wget http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/d5528
[12:01] <Stormx2> This normal?
[12:01] <kenich1> hi there
[12:01] <zandaa> ardchoille nevermind, I got my HD working... it was a NTFS partition
[12:01] <soundray> Cybercool, well, why did you say it wasn't listed?
[12:01] <zandaa> ardchoille thanks anyway
[12:02] <Millenniumgroup> BlueDevil, done
[12:02] <ubun-newbie> how do i install adsl , sudo adsl-setup right
[12:02] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: cat d5528 | tr -d \\015 > d5528.unix
[12:02] <soundray> Cybercool, anyway, if you have the PPD file, you should be able to print just fine.
[12:02] <Cybercool> soundray, i can't select printer model: it's on postscript
[12:02] <Millenniumgroup> BlueDevil, done
[12:02] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: sudo cp d5528 /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:02] <Cybercool> soundray, what should be in command?
[12:02] <ardchoille> zandaa: oh, ok. I wouldn't have been able to help with NTFS anyway.
[12:02] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: no
[12:02] <navarone> ArkGullwing: maybe esd server starting up and interfering...when you get to log on press ctrl-alt-f1 and log in thru there...then type sudo killall esd    that will kill esd if present...then press ctrl-altf7 to get back to graphical log in and see if you can
[12:02] <Millenniumgroup> done
[12:02] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: sudo cp d5528.unix /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:03] <Millenniumgroup> ok done
[12:03] <soundray> Cybercool, leave that as it was, just point it to the PPD file.
[12:03] <Millenniumgroup> restart x?
[12:03] <zandaa> anyone know why I can't listen to music from a NTFS partition???
[12:03] <Cybercool> soundray, i did but it doesn't print
[12:03] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: now, restart X
[12:03] <Millenniumgroup> k
[12:03] <Millenniumgroup> brb
[12:03] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: goin' for a smoke
[12:03] <kenichi> zandaa: should work. which player you use?
[12:03] <zandaa> kenichi, the standard totem I think
[12:04] <soundray> Cybercool, okay, what is in Command right now?
[12:04] <kenichi> zandaa: does it pretend to play?
[12:04] <zandaa> kenichi, well it says it can't open because it can't write to the HD O_O
[12:04] <efeiling> My system reboots when ever I try to play a game under my 64-bit install.
[12:04] <soundray> BlueDevil, I'll let him know ;)
[12:04] <hawking> anyone who uses valknut here?
[12:04] <efeiling> Did anyone ever had the problem.
[12:04] <ArkGullwing> ALL: I'm trying to try out this OS and when i run the live boot disk, when it gets to the part where it plays the start up music and i guess there should be a desktop, the video is bad.. verticle lines that make my eyes hurt.. im using NVidia GEForce FX 5700LE
[12:04] <Cybercool> soundray, this is in the command line: lp -s -dPIXMA-iP1500-Ver.2.50 -oraw
[12:04] <efeiling> My system hard locks or just reboots.
[12:04] <kenichi> zandaa: have you tried another player?
[12:05] <hawking> when I connect to the hub it starts to give this error : FreeDiscSpace : no such folder or file
[12:05] <zandaa> kenichi, not yet... I'll try though
[12:05] <BlueDevil> soundray: i'm going home, bbl, please tell me if it worked when I return (~30 mins)
[12:05] <kenichi> zandaa: perhaps totem wants to open with write rights for editing tags or stuff like that
[12:05] <william> Why won't MPlayer save my settings?
[12:05] <soundray> BlueDevil, okay.
[12:05] <zandaa> kenichi, rhythmbox crashes O_O
[12:06] <soundray> Cybercool, it's hard to diagnose from here.
[12:06] <Cybercool> soundray, i get a printer at te buttom right and there is an task in there, but it just disapears after a minute or so
[12:06] <Millenniumgroup> :)
[12:07] <kenichi> zandaa: ah, with rythmbox i had a comparable problem. it didnt want to open files from ntfs
[12:07] <efeiling> Could anyone help me with my problem.
[12:07] <Millenniumgroup> BlueDevil, it finally worked my friend, THANK YOU :)
[12:07] <efeiling> I've been having it for the longest time.
[12:07] <kenichi> try xmms
[12:07] <kenichi> zandaa: try xmms
[12:07] <soundray> Cybercool, if you have Openoffice, you could try and print from Draw - that allows you to resize a picture and place it on the page.
[12:07] <mrkoje> efeiling what is your problem
[12:07] <kenichi> zandaa: its a good player like winamp and worked for me
[12:07] <Cybercool> soundray ok
[12:07] <zandaa> kenichi, where would I get xmms??? and btw... it also crashes from a FAT partition
[12:08] <Cybercool> soundray, how to print from draw in openoffice
[12:08] <soundray> Millenniumgroup, BlueDevil is on his way home. Will you be here for ~30 minutes?
[12:08] <kenichi> zandaa: that sounds wrong to me ;)
[12:08] <kenichi> you can get xmms with synaptic packet manager but should be shipped with ubuntu
[12:09] <zandaa> if it's shipped with ubuntu, where would I find it?
[12:09] <philosophia> hi
[12:09] <Millenniumgroup> soundray, sure?
[12:09] <soundray> Cybercool, open the image file in Draw. Place the image on the page, print with File - Print.
[12:09] <Cybercool> ok
[12:09] <kenichi> zandaa: Applications -> Sound & Video -> XMMS
[12:10] <zandaa> it isn't
[12:10] <soundray> Millenniumgroup, he said he'd be back in about that time.
[12:10] <philosophia> i want to clean up my server.  is there any way i can cd to /, then ls, and have it tell me which directories are the most used
[12:10] <philosophia> ?
[12:10] <philosophia> running out of space
[12:10] <soundray> Millenniumgroup, I bet he'll be pleased.
[12:10] <kenichi> zandaa: try xmms in console
[12:10] <Millenniumgroup> soundray, I'll wait and ya ...well hopefully he'll loose the headache :D
[12:10] <zandaa> xmms: command not found
[12:10] <Millenniumgroup> soundray, thank you as well :)
[12:10] <soundray> Millenniumgroup, well done for not being one to give up!
[12:11] <kenichi> zandaa: otherwise install xmms with synaptic packet manager
[12:11] <zandaa> kenichi, ok I'll try thanks
[12:11] <navarone> zandaa I has similar permissions prob with fat32 partition. I ahd to create a folder on drive thru ubuntu in order to transfer files between. Original folders retained permissions from windows
[12:11] <Millenniumgroup> well I almost gave up ;) BlueDevil told me "one last try" :)
[12:11] <soundray> Millenniumgroup, if you want to quit, I'll let him know.
[12:11] <soundray> Millenniumgroup, I know!
[12:11] <efeiling> Hey
[12:11] <Millenniumgroup> soundray, nah I'll stick around
[12:11] <Cybercool> soudray, ow ok, i resised and it's going to print now
[12:11] <zandaa> navarone, could you explain more clearly??? (I'm kinda sleepy and originally dutch, so you confuse me)
[12:12] <efeiling> Do anyone have a NF4 mother board with an AMD 64-bit chip?
[12:12] <soundray> Millenniumgroup, that's great, because in that case, I won't stick around.
[12:12] <soundray> Cybercool, you're saying it's working?
[12:12] <Cybercool> soundray, yes it's printing
[12:12] <Cybercool> soundray, it ready
[12:12] <Millenniumgroup> soundray, ok see you later :)
[12:12] <soundray> Cybercool, looking good?
[12:13] <soundray> Millenniumgroup, cheers.
[12:13] <guido_> anyone here skilled with firestarter?
[12:13] <philosophia> any way to cd into a directory then ls, then have ls list the subdirectories in order of size?
[12:13] <efeiling> My system reboots mrkoje
[12:13] <navarone> zandaa> I use a fat32 partiton to share muisc between ubuntu and win2k. Although linux can write to fat32 I was not able to directly save files to the windows created folders. I had to create folders on fat32 in ubuntu and then transfer files to that folder to eventually transfer to folder set for p2p share
[12:13] <Cybercool> soundray, it's in the corner, but leaving abount 1cm of space on the buttom and 3mm of space on the side
[12:13] <soundray> philosophia, use du: du -s | sort -n
[12:14] <philosophia> thanks
[12:14] <Cybercool> soudray, howto print on 4x6, do i have to set to 4x6 or not
[12:14] <william> Holy crap, I can play an old Windows game with WINE.
[12:14] <zandaa> navarone, this isn't truly about file sharing... I just wanna listen to music
[12:14] <Stormx2> william: I know!
[12:14] <Stormx2> Worms is brilliant!
[12:14] <ma4ti4> hi all, i have a quick question, can some1 recommend me some nice mp3 player?
[12:14] <pr1r> hey all... i am having a problem installing nvidia drivers for my geforce fx 5200 agp card... i get this error when i load up like 2 blue screens and then it lets me sign in and stuff on the screen and then just runs terminal i guess
[12:15] <william> I'm playing Free Enterprise, un underrated business sim.
[12:15] <soundray> Cybercool, it's a matter of trying. You could also ring Canon support and give them hell :)  I've done that to them, for not supporting my IP5200R under Linux...
[12:15] <Stormx2> whats the dos-emulating equivilent of wine?
[12:15] <wij> I had a NetWare 3.11 worm on my HD.
[12:15] <navarone> zandaa> is the drive set up to be readonly?
[12:15] <william> DosEmu
[12:15] <philosophia> soundray - this will take a while right?
[12:15] <soundray> Stormx2 dosemu
[12:15] <philosophia> if i'm in /
[12:15] <zandaa> navarone, no it isn't... it's my Apple iPod music player that has FAT partition
[12:15] <Cybercool> soundray, thanks for you help
[12:15] <soundray> philosophia, yes!
[12:15] <Cybercool> soundray, bye
[12:15] <zandaa> and it's properly supported
[12:15] <soundray> Cybercool, see ya.
[12:15] <william> DOSEmu is actually better then the original.
[12:16] <william> Thank God we no longer have to rely on FreeDOS.
[12:16] <navarone> zandaa...i think rythmbox can download and access files from ipod. I dunno if it needs extra files to do so tyho
[12:16] <soundray> philosophia, you know df ?
[12:17] <zandaa> navarone, it's not specifically the iPod.... it can't read any files
[12:17] <efeiling> Can anyone help me?
[12:17] <wij> ?
[12:17] <sethk> efeiling, with what?
[12:17] <zandaa> navarone, that's because it just crashes on startup
[12:17] <efeiling> I'm sure it's just something wrong with my X Config file.
[12:17] <mdke> i'm following a howto about setting up an smtp server, and I have come to a point where it suggests I choose a method of pam authentication. It has suggested ldap, what other alternatives are there?
[12:17] <philosophia> soundray yes
[12:17] <efeiling> My system reboots everytime I try to run a 3D app
[12:17] <philosophia> right now i'm du -s | sort -n < /home/me/du.txt
[12:17] <navarone> zandaa: is the ipod automounting when plugged in?
[12:18] <efeiling> Like for example if I try to run WoW using Cedega it hard locks my system or reboot my PC.
[12:18] <erUSUL> efeiling, card driver combo?
[12:18] <zandaa> navarone, yes it is, why?
[12:18] <soundray> philosophia, I hope the < is a >
[12:18] <efeiling> I'm sure of it
[12:18] <erUSUL> efeiling, something in the logs?
[12:18] <kevor> tutorial in action, changed my bootsplashscreen: www.kev0r.nl/pc090899.mov
[12:18] <efeiling> I have the lastest driver from nvidia.
[12:18] <soundray> philosophia, you could also leave out the -s if you're piping the output to a file anyway.
[12:18] <navarone> zandaa: jsut trying to see what is wrong
[12:18] <philosophia> yes it is
[12:18] <william> How come WineSetup and Wine don't get along?
[12:18] <efeiling> I can't catch anyting in the logs.
[12:19] <efeiling> My system locks so I can't get to it.
[12:19] <pr1r> efeiling what type of video card you have?
[12:19] <mrkoje> efeiling: might be somthing wrong with your driver for card... might be system getting to hot
[12:19] <zandaa> navarone, nothing is wrong anymore... I just using xmms now.. kinda used to winamp so just as easy
[12:19] <sethk> efeiling, that's a serious bug, not just a configuration problem.  Although it isn't impossible that you can work around it with the configuration
[12:19] <efeiling> Roswell 6600GT 128MB
[12:19] <navarone> ahh
[12:19] <philosophia> soundray - if i'm in / , will this command go into sub sub directories and so on?
[12:19] <soundray> philosophia, that way you'll get a sorted list of all directorys, not just the first level in /
[12:19] <pr1r> damn
[12:19] <zandaa> kevor, how can I play mov?
[12:19] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: your eyes will get tired @60Hz :P
[12:19] <efeiling> I'm running the 64-bit ver of Ubuntu.
[12:19] <navarone> zandaa: were you trying amarok?
[12:19] <soundray> philosophia, yes, it will.
[12:19] <pr1r> howd u get it to work???
[12:19] <kevor> vlc
[12:19] <kevor> or mplayer
[12:19] <philosophia> cool
[12:20] <zandaa> navarone, what's amarok?
[12:20] <kevor> zandaa: vlc or mplayer
[12:20] <zandaa> ok
[12:20] <efeiling> Yeah, I've always had that problem.
[12:20] <joshi> can anyone tell me how i connect to some ftp server?
[12:20] <soundray> efeiling, could this be a hardware fault?
[12:20] <navarone> zandaa...no matter
[12:20] <BlueDevil> zandaa: audio player
[12:20] <zandaa> ah ok
[12:20] <efeiling> I wouldn't think that because it work under Windows XP(32-bit)
[12:20] <zandaa> xmms works great
[12:20] <soundray> Ahh, BlueDevil is back.
[12:20] <Millenniumgroup> Bluedevil, lol ya, so my screen doesn't support 72hz ?
[12:20] <Millenniumgroup> and tx buddy for making it work :)
[12:20] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: yw
[12:20] <erUSUL> joshi, with a ftp client
[12:21] <kevor> zandaa: in console: wget www.kev0r.nl/pc090899.mov; vlc pc090899.mov
[12:21] <erUSUL> joshi, with nautilus
[12:21] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: it doesn't support 75Hz, don't know about 72
[12:21] <joshi> ok..
[12:21] <fr500> Seveas: i get some errors when downloading w32codecs from your server
[12:21] <BlueDevil> hey soundray
[12:21] <fr500> seveas like 403forbidden :P
[12:21] <william> fr500, I use FFMpeg, it's better.
[12:21] <soundray> BlueDevil, great work on Millenniumgroup's problem.
[12:21] <BlueDevil> fr500: it's intentional :)
[12:21] <efeiling> So you guys have no ideal on what it is then.
[12:22] <BlueDevil> soundray: thanks
[12:22] <efeiling> Any ideals, I'll try just about anything at this point.
[12:22] <joshi> nautilus sais that i the server cannot be displayed
[12:22] <soundray> efeiling, a hardware problem?
[12:22] <efeiling> It work under Windows XP
[12:22] <efeiling> So I wouldn't think that.
[12:22] <fr500> BlueDevil: why?
[12:22] <Millenniumgroup> hmm.. k so I guess I got 2 choices then, have more things running on my screen and get tired or go back to my previous reso lol.. anyways it doesn't matter I'll try to run it at 1280 and see if my eyes adapt, anyways thank you so much for sticking with my noob problem I hope your head ache will go away soon :)
[12:22] <efeiling> I mean I'm going to get another card( different brand) sometime this week.
[12:23] <BlueDevil> fr500: licensing issues I guess...you can ask and he'll give you access
[12:23] <soundray> efeiling, maybe temperature?
[12:23] <efeiling> Now that the new drivers have SLI support.
[12:23] <fr500> ok
[12:23] <efeiling> Is there a temp setting that I could change?
[12:23] <fr500> Seveas: can i have access to w32 codecs?
[12:23] <soundray> Anyway, have to go.
[12:23] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: wanna try 72Hz?
[12:23] <soundray> Cheers guys
[12:23] <efeiling> Under Windows I can play 32 games for hours.
[12:23] <efeiling> In fact I've done it.
[12:23] <zandaa> yay, my first apt-get without problems XD
[12:23] <lightbright> hey hey :)
[12:23] <soundray> Hope you get it fixed efeiling.
[12:24] <BlueDevil> zandaa: well done :)
[12:24] <lightbright> zandaa: yipee ;)
[12:24] <Millenniumgroup> BlueDevil sure man
[12:24] <wij> NTFS sucks,  copy the files to reiser and play them
[12:24] <Millenniumgroup> how would I edit my xorg to do that?
[12:24] <efeiling> Well, I'm going to get another card it.
[12:24] <zandaa> bluedevil, thanks... I'm new to Linux
[12:24] <lightbright> zandaa: exciting isnt it? ;)
[12:24] <wij> NTFS is windows,  copy the files to reiser and play them
[12:24] <zandaa> lightbright, it kinda is.. linux is just an entirely new world to explore
[12:24] <lightbright> zandaa: everyone is new to linux :)
[12:24] <efeiling> So I'll make the other card my main card
[12:24] <philosophia> soundray - will this take like hour or something?
[12:24] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: open /etc/X11/xorg.conf in an editor
[12:24] <efeiling> I just wanted to see if anyone had problems like that.
[12:24] <lightbright> zandaa: once you embrace it, be patient and never give up!  you will never go back
[12:25] <Millenniumgroup> done bluedevil
[12:25] <zandaa> lightbright: I'll have to once I have to do schoolwork... (powerpoint presentations etc)
[12:25] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: what editor?
[12:25] <Millenniumgroup> gedit
[12:25] <BlueDevil> ok
[12:25] <Seveas> fr500, sure, sec
[12:25] <lightbright> zandaa: use open office for that
[12:26] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.ok
[12:26] <lightbright> zandaa: it supports powerpoint
[12:26] <Seveas> fr500, please pm me your ip address
[12:26] <lightbright> Seveas: hello
[12:26] <zandaa> lightbright: I tried earlier and couldn't make one that's compliant with Microsoft powerpoint....
[12:26] <chrisx1> what other desktops are there?
[12:26] <Seveas> haya lightbright
[12:26] <lightbright> zandaa: open office does indeed make compatible powerpoint
[12:27] <lightbright> Seveas: :)
[12:27] <Millenniumgroup> BD done
[12:27] <zandaa> lightbright, thanks for sharing that I'll try again later (that means... when I'm not so **** tires)
[12:27] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: ok, now search for the modeline line in the monitor section
[12:27] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: in gedit
[12:28] <lightbright> zandaa: whats your car tires got to do with it? :)
[12:28] <Syirrus> Ne1 know if there are alpha or beta sblive xfi drivers out for ubuntu?
[12:28] <Millenniumgroup> Section "Monitor"
[12:28] <Millenniumgroup> 	Identifier	"Generic Monitor"
[12:28] <Millenniumgroup> 	Option		"DPMS"
[12:28] <Millenniumgroup> 	HorizSync	30-96
[12:28] <Millenniumgroup> 	VertRefresh	50-160
[12:28] <Millenniumgroup>         Modeline "1280x1024" 109.62  1280 1336 1472 1720  1024 1024 1026 1062
[12:28] <Millenniumgroup> EndSection
[12:28] <Millenniumgroup> that one right?
[12:28] <zandaa> lightbright, sorry... I ment tired... and 15 year-olds aren't allowed to drive cars here
[12:28] <BlueDevil> yes
[12:28] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: but don't paste that many lines in the channel
[12:28] <Seveas> Millenniumgroup, NEVER paste in here
[12:28] <erUSUL> Millenniumgroup, please do not paste here
[12:28] <Millenniumgroup> sorry guys
[12:28] <erUSUL> Millenniumgroup, use pastebin
[12:28] <eriksti> anyone know what I should do?   $ modprobe ndiswrapper  --->  FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid argument
[12:28] <Seveas> next time will be rewarded with a kick
[12:29] <Millenniumgroup> yup I will
[12:29] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: you can paste in a query to me, I don't mind
[12:29] <Millenniumgroup> ah yes
[12:29] <erUSUL> eriksti, it is a custom kernel?
[12:29] <Syirrus> eriksti: what versionof ubuntu are you using?
[12:29] <chrisx1> what other desktops are there?
[12:29] <eriksti> I'm using Kubuntu, default everything
[12:29] <BlueDevil> Seveas: there were much worse episodes today :)
[12:29] <sethk> eriksti, figure out the invalid and/or missing argument
[12:29] <Millenniumgroup> BlueDevil, what value should I change?
[12:30] <Seveas> BlueDevil, heh, bad day for me to take a day off it seems :)
[12:30] <Syirrus> eriksti: use synaptic and search for ndiswrapper
[12:30] <MiSS_n00b> hi can anyone help im having probs with my nvidia drivers, open gl isnt working, and theres a black strip down the left side of the screen, i have tried reinstalling the drivers, any ideas how i can fix this?
[12:30] <Jowi> eriksti: i thought your card was supported without ndiswrapper...?
[12:30] <Syirrus> eriksti: there is a gui interface for it which makes it easy to install
[12:30] <eriksti> Jowi: gave up
[12:30] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: ok, now I need you to replace the whole line that starts with "Modeline" with the line I am going to give you
[12:30] <Jowi> oh
[12:30] <eriksti> Syirrus: ndistgtk, yes
[12:31] <zandaa> how do I make connection to FTP server?
[12:31] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: Modeline "1280x1024" 143.02  1280 1352 1528 1856  1024 1024 1027 1070
[12:31] <Millenniumgroup> BlueDevil ok
[12:31] <Seveas> zandaa, places -> connect to server
[12:31] <Syirrus> etiksti: what happens when you run it?
[12:31] <eriksti> ndisgtk: Failed to load GTK bindings. Please check your Gnome installation... I'm running KDE :)
[12:31] <erUSUL> zandaa, with a ftp client (ftp, gftp, nautilus....)
[12:31] <Seveas> eriksti, then you can't use ndisgtk
[12:31] <Syirrus> ah yes
[12:32] <Millenniumgroup> BlueDevil ok done
[12:32] <Millenniumgroup> restart x?
[12:32] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: no
[12:32] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: paste the whole monitor section on pastebin
[12:32] <eriksti> so how do I "figure out the invalid argument" ?
[12:33] <Millenniumgroup> !pastebin
[12:33] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[12:33] <lightbright> BlueDevil: you must be joking!
[12:33] <BlueDevil> lightbright: ?
[12:33] <david_m_e> i have some questions re: c++ dev environments; i joined #gcc (37 members), and nobody was saying anything...
[12:33] <lightbright> BlueDevil: yeah
[12:33] <david_m_e> so...
[12:33] <zandaa> seveas: thanks
[12:33] <Seveas> david_m_e, what's the problem?
[12:34] <zandaa> erusul: thank you also
[12:34] <eriksti> sethk: how can I figure out the invalid/missing argument?
[12:34] <BlueDevil> lightbright: what?
[12:34] <lightbright> BlueDevil: you must be joking!  the devil aint blue dude
[12:34] <BlueDevil> lightbright: quit it already :)
[12:34] <sethk> eriksti, you may have to trace what is happening during that command (strace will help)
[12:35] <null42> hello? im new at irc....
[12:35] <lightbright> BlueDevil: :)
[12:35] <Millenniumgroup> BlueDevil, plz check your pm :)
[12:35] <null42> how do i join #linuX-clan.q?
[12:35] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: you can't pm me, you are not a registered user
[12:35] <eriksti> sethk: sounds like something a noob will have a hard time figuring out
[12:36] <BlueDevil> damn you chanserv!
[12:36] <Millenniumgroup> BlueDevil, ah ok
[12:36] <david_m_e> is any here familiar with "old style" compiled developement, and the advance that was made with QuickBasic, with it's ability to breakpoint execution, examine variable values, and even change code? it was a major milestone in coding speed; i'm wondering if a similar environment exists in Linux/Ubuntu, and if it comes free or what the name of the company is who makes it
[12:36] <Millenniumgroup> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5530
[12:36] <Seveas> BlueDevil, /ns set unfiltered off
[12:36] <BlueDevil> Seveas: i know...:)
[12:36] <Syirrus> null42: hello how are you doing?
[12:36] <erUSUL> david_m_e, lisp ;)
[12:36] <dooglus_> did you see the newly discovered firefox vulnerability?
[12:37] <erUSUL> david_m_e, check gambas
[12:37] <fallen_> hi
[12:37] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: ok, now save the file and close gedit
[12:37] <_jason> dooglus what's that?
[12:37] <erUSUL> david_m_e, check gambas is a basic framework similar to visualbasic
[12:37] <dooglus_> ubuntu's firefox 1.0.7 crashes permanently if it visits the 'wrong' page
[12:37] <Millenniumgroup> BD done
[12:37] <Syirrus> really
[12:37] <Seveas> dooglus_, then don't surf for porn...
[12:37] <_jason> dooglus, is 1.5 patched against it?
[12:37] <dooglus_> Seveas: not just porn - any page can do it
[12:37] <fallen_> can some one explain me how to instal something with synaptic
[12:37] <david_m_e> thank you erUSUL; what are the popular editors for code?
[12:37] <Seveas> david_m_e, vim
[12:37] <Mabus06> dooglus, not *just* porn?
[12:38] <Seveas> and emacs
[12:38] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: after you restart X it doesn't work, don't do dpkg-reconfigure stuff
[12:38] <j-linux> Does anyone here run Ubuntu on a Dell Latitude d810?
[12:38] <Seveas> !tell j-linux about anyone
[12:38] <david_m_e> i'm vaguely familiar with vim; any others?
[12:38] <dooglus_> it destroys your history.dat file - so you should back it up (it's in ~/.mozilla/firefox/<something>/history.dat )
[12:38] <Millenniumgroup> BD, ok.. what should I do instead?
[12:38] <Millenniumgroup> gedit the xorg ?
[12:38] <erUSUL> david_m_e, emacs do not listen to the few that still believe in vi
[12:38] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: do "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.ok /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[12:38] <Seveas> dooglus, ah - evil
[12:38] <chrisx1> !anyone
[12:38] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[12:38] <MHobbit_Ubuntu> <3 Ubuntu
[12:38] <_jason> david_m_e, I'll have to go with vim
[12:38] <david_m_e> must profess ignorance of what 'emacs' is
[12:38] <chrisx1> lol
[12:39] <_jason> david_m_e, good, keep it that way :D
[12:39] <Seveas> david_m_e, you should stay sane and keep it that way
[12:39] <Millenniumgroup> that's all?
[12:39] <dooglus_> there's an example page here: http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/crash-firefox.htm - click the link on that page, then quit firefox and try to restart it.  I couldn't...
[12:39] <BlueDevil> yes
[12:39] <Millenniumgroup> k
[12:39] <Millenniumgroup> restarting x now
[12:39] <Seveas> david_m_e, easier to use editors include gedit, kate, anjuta, kdevelop, eclipse
[12:39] <dooglus_> Seveas: is there a #ubuntu-security or somewhere where this should be reported?
[12:39] <Seveas> dooglus_, bugzilla
[12:39] <erUSUL> david_m_e, anathema!!! XD (btw gambas is an ide it comes with its own code editor)
[12:39] <david_m_e> thanks, Sev;
[12:40] <dooglus_> Seveas: oh, ok.
[12:40] <Syirrus> Ne1 out there able to get creative's X-fi sound card to install?
[12:40] <dooglus_> Seveas: incidentally, is http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/ down?  Or is the problem at my end?
[12:40] <david_m_e> erUSUL, is gambas is free ?
[12:40] <Seveas> dooglus_, bug is filed already
[12:40] <Seveas> http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20688
[12:40] <dooglus_> Seveas: number?
[12:40] <dooglus_> ta
[12:40] <erUSUL> david_m_e, yes is libre
[12:41] <david_m_e> danke
[12:41] <j-linux> Since I can't see the computer (Dell Latitude D810) before I buy it and I am going to be running Ubuntu on it -- I am wondering how the UXGA display looks when the resolution is reduced.  Fuzzy or not?  I don't care to much how it looks under Windows.  I'm wondering if the resolution will be to small for me to read, although I've heard the display looks great.
[12:41] <BlueDevil> j-linux: man, don't buy dell :)
[12:41] <david_m_e> btw, how do i do the 'red' thing where my response to a specific person is easy for that person to read?
[12:42] <BlueDevil> j-linux: look here: http://ivlad.unixgods.net/lj/keylog/klog.htm
[12:42] <j-linux> BluDevil: why not?  I'm down to either ThinkPad or Dell but Dell is easier to buy.
[12:42] <erUSUL> j-linux, go to the shop with the livecd and ask politely to boot it in the laptop
[12:42] <Seveas> j-linux, don't reduce resolution, increae fontsize...
[12:42] <Jowi> david_m_e: it's automatic
[12:42] <j-linux> I'm in Hawaii -- no Dell locations and just one ThinkPad location (UH students only)
[12:42] <Seveas> I hate Dell :)
[12:42] <eriksti> Jowi: i have up on the normal stuff cause it says "no wireless extensions." all over the plate, with no instructions other than pointing to ndiswrapper
[12:42] <david_m_e> simply by having the respondant as the first word of one's response?
[12:42] <j-linux> Seveas: why is that?
[12:42] <BlueDevil> Seveas: that makes  two of us :)
[12:43] <j-linux> I read linux on laptops sites and Ubuntu seems to run ok on the Latitude D810
[12:43] <logical_mark> Hey could someone help me out. My sound is really staticy but ONLY in linux...
[12:43] <zandaa> hey guys??? it seems I need to have root access to browse my NTFS drive, how can I make a root shortcut???
[12:43] <Jowi> eriksti: sorry, i'm not the person to ask for help. you emptied my limited knowledge in that area :)
[12:43] <BlueDevil> zandaa: why is that?
[12:43] <Seveas> j-linux, because they ship crap and make it expensive
[12:44] <Seveas> and you can't add hardware without (void)ing the warranty
[12:44] <Flashmatt> hi, i'm new to ubuntu, can i post a question here?
[12:44] <topyli> zandaa: woudn't it be better to fix the mount options so you could read the drive as a regular user?
[12:44] <mwe> zandaa: you don't need root to access your ntfs drive. just mount it properly
[12:44] <eriksti> Jowi: okay.. guess I'll just leave it alone.. wireless in linux sux! :)  not linux' fault though, I guess
[12:44] <Seveas> Flashmatt, that's why this channel exists :)
[12:44] <BlueDevil> Flashmatt: it seems you already did
[12:44] <Flashmatt> thx :)
[12:44] <Flashmatt> good point...
[12:44] <erUSUL> zandaa, just add the option users to the fstab line (and the correct umask)
[12:44] <syndicate> how do i use SVG themes?
[12:44] <Seveas> eriksti, wireless in linux rocks
[12:44] <Seveas> some companies just suck
[12:44] <zandaa> mwe: then how do I mount it properly (the installation did it automatic)
[12:44] <Flashmatt> so anyways, I've scoured the internet
[12:44] <dooglus_> zandaa: you don't need root access.  you can mount with options like "umask=0"
[12:45] <Seveas> Flashmatt, always a good start
[12:45] <eriksti> Seveas: so, tell me how to get my ipw2200bg going
[12:45] <Flashmatt> and cannot find the info that'll make the WEP on my wmp11v4 wireless card to work under ubuntu
[12:45] <Seveas> eriksti, modprobe ipw2200
[12:45] <Flashmatt> has anyone else had a similar problem?
[12:45] <Seveas> Flashmatt, can you post the output of lspci on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:45] <mwe> zandaa: what does the ntfs line in /etc/fstab say? you need user,umask=0222 in there under the options
[12:45] <eriksti> Seveas: FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid argument
[12:45] <Jowi> Seveas: of course you can. all dell desktops are built with clips (no screws to change hdd's, cpu fans, gpus etc). i worked for dell support for a year (europe) and we constantly guided customers through that.
[12:45] <zandaa> etc/fstab I'll check
[12:45] <dooglus_> zandaa: my /etc/fstab line says "/dev/hda1 /mnt/c        ntfs noauto,umask=0,nls=iso8859-1,uid=501,gid=501,nls=iso8859-15    0 0".  It's not idea - I don't know why I have 2 different nls= options!  But it lets me see the disk without being root.
[12:45] <Jowi> no voided warranty
[12:45] <Seveas> eriksti, ipw does not need ndiswrapper
[12:46] <LoPMX> hu
[12:46] <LoPMX> hi
[12:46] <LoPMX> anyone using nx6110 laptop here?
[12:46] <Seveas> eriksti, moreover ndiswrapper only works properly in the -686 or -k7 kernel
[12:46] <eriksti> Seveas: modprobe ipw2200 gives no output, sorry
[12:46] <erUSUL> eriksti, use the native driver
[12:46] <j-linux> Seveas: then what do you recommend that will run Ubuntu/Linux and has a good at-home service plan?
[12:46] <Seveas> eriksti, good, then it works :)
[12:46] <LoPMX> ok intel media accelerator (gma) 900?
[12:46] <Flashmatt> ok give me a second
[12:46] <xiaogil> Is there a GNU or free search engine like Google ?
[12:46] <j-linux> BlueDevil: I just read that about the keylogger.  Is that your site?
[12:46] <eriksti> Seveas: cool, so how do I start using it?
[12:46] <challah> hey all i have a question before i restart my computer...
[12:46] <Seveas> j-linux, no hardware vendor does at-home service for linux
[12:46] <BlueDevil> j-linux: nope
[12:46] <Seveas> eriksti, ifup eth1 (or whatever name t got assigned)
[12:47] <Jowi> got to go, night all
[12:47] <zandaa> mwe: type ntfs options defaults and dump and pass are set to 0
[12:47] <Syirrus> night
[12:47] <Seveas> eriksti, do you have a wired connection to that machine?
[12:47] <mwe> zandaa: yeah
[12:47] <j-linux> Seveas:  they said they would send someone to my house with parts if it breaks.
[12:47] <syndicate> does anyone know how to use SVG themes?
[12:47] <mwe> zandaa: you need user,umask=0222 in there under the options
[12:47] <challah> im usin 5.1 im tryin to install drivers for my agp geforce fx 5200 video card... i did and now i have to restart...
[12:47] <BlueDevil> j-linux: it links from there: http://braincore.blogspot.com/2005/12/wtf-conspiracy-anyone.html
[12:47] <dooglus_> zandaa: edit the file, and add ",uid=0" to the end of the options.  that'll fix it
[12:47] <eriksti> Seveas: sure.. ifup eth1 gives Ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1.
[12:47] <challah> do i have to edit anything before i restart>???
[12:47] <Flashmatt> Seveas: not to sound like a total newb, but how do I output the lspci?
[12:48] <eriksti> Seveas: I'm using the same machine right now
[12:48] <dooglus_> zandaa: no, sorry!  not that, ",umask=0"
[12:48] <challah> like xorg.conf
[12:48] <Seveas> eriksti, cool
[12:48] <zandaa> mwe: it wont let me edit
[12:48] <mwe> zandaa: you need to do it with sudo
[12:48] <zandaa> mwe: because it's read-only
[12:48] <dooglus_> zandaa: "sudo gedit /etc/fstab" will let you edit
[12:48] <Seveas> eriksti, put /etc/network/interfaces and the output of ifconfig -a on the pastebin
[12:48] <zandaa> ah ok
[12:48] <erUSUL> eriksti, use ifconfig -a to figure out the name it got assigned
[12:48] <Seveas> Flashmatt, open a terminal (applications -> accessories -> terminal) and enter the command lspci there
[12:49] <jdkycdoc> hi, i have just installed the nvidia driver and the acceleration is working fine but my resolution changed from 1280x800 to 1280x768, how can i fix this?
[12:49] <Flashmatt> okie dokie ;-)
[12:49] <j-linux> BlueDevil: It looks like that keylogger thing is a hoax.
[12:49] <BlueDevil> j-linux: how so?
[12:49] <erUSUL> !tell jdkycdoc about fixres
[12:49] <j-linux> type "dell hardware keylogger" into Google (no quotes)
[12:50] <zandaa> mwe: ok... as option I did "user,umask=0222" but it hasn't yet changed... do I need to reboot for it to have effect?
[12:50] <challah> can anyone help me on how to propperly set up nvidia drivers???
[12:50] <Seveas> !tell challah about nvidia
[12:50] <kenichi> jdkycdoc: hi
[12:50] <challah> seveas: i did that already i get this error when i turn the computer back on
[12:51] <mwe> zandaa: just remount
[12:51] <kenichi> jdkycdoc: you have to enter the proper screen resolutions into your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[12:51] <zandaa> mwe: oh ok (stupid me :S)
[12:51] <jdkycdoc> hi kenichi
[12:51] <Flashmatt> seveas: problem #2 that computer is not connected to the internet at all, so I'll type the part you're most interested in
[12:51] <challah> seveas: i get these 2 blue screens they both say the same thing
[12:51] <Flashmatt> 0000:00.0d.02 Cisco...unknown device
[12:52] <Flashmatt> ok...i guess that didn't help much
[12:52] <zandaa> mwe: thanks alot :D it works like a charm :D
[12:52] <Taa5i> Has anyone had any success getting an HP NetRaid SCSI/RAID controller to work in Ubuntu, please?
[12:52] <kenichi> jdkycdoc: after putting them into your xorg.conf file you can switch between the different resolutions with Screen Resolution tool
[12:52] <eriksti> Seveas:  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/454851
[12:52] <mwe> zandaa: good. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions suggests slightly different options though
[12:52] <zandaa> are there codecs for linux to play windows formats?
[12:52] <Seveas> Flashmatt, Flashmatt 'unknown device' does not sound promising
[12:52] <Flashmatt> good point
[12:52] <Flashmatt> but i got wlan0 all set up and stuff
[12:52] <MiSS_n00b> hi can anyone help im having probs with my nvidia drivers, open gl isnt working, and theres a black strip down the left side of the screen, i have tried reinstalling the drivers, any ideas how i can fix this?
[12:52] <nekostar> question:
[12:53] <erUSUL> !tell zanda about w32codecs
[12:53] <Flashmatt> i just can't get the unknown device part to go away
[12:53] <Seveas> eriksti, do you need to use wep?
[12:53] <erUSUL> !tell zandaa about w32codecs
[12:53] <eriksti> Seveas: don't think so
[12:53] <nekostar> im about to put the gel on for my cpu
[12:53] <Seveas> eriksti, cool, let's test:
[12:53] <j-linux> So it is better to go with the UXGA screen instead of the SXGA screen and then make the fonts bigger?  It's not going to look like crap in Ubuntu?
[12:53] <zandaa> erUSUL: I don't think those work on a 64-bit system
[12:53] <nekostar> i noticed next to the core there are little things to
[12:53] <Seveas> sudo ifconfig eth1 up
[12:53] <nekostar> do i need to gel them also?
[12:53] <dooglus> how can I get my domain name server into /etc/resolv.conf if I use a static IP, not DHCP?
[12:53] <Seveas> sudo dhclient eth1
[12:53] <chrisx1> how do i change my desktop manager from kdm to gdm??
[12:53] <kyncani> MiSS_n00b: first, follow the nvidia howto on ubuntu wiki
[12:53] <Seveas> dooglus, with vim :)
[12:53] <MiSS_n00b> i have
[12:53] <dooglus> every time I boot, resolv.conf loses its nameserver field
[12:54] <Taa5i> chrisx1: sudo apt-get install gdm
[12:54] <MiSS_n00b> i've been trying to fix it all day
[12:54] <dooglus> Seveas: there's no better way?
[12:54] <Seveas> chrisx1, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[12:54] <MiSS_n00b> im about to reinstall:(
[12:54] <zandaa> erUSUL: those codecs do work on a 64-bit system right???
[12:54] <chrisx1> Taa5i, its installed tho i changed it when i install kubuntu
[12:54] <eriksti> Seveas: getting these things: DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 17
[12:54] <Seveas> dooglus, dns-nameservers 1.2.3.4 in /etc/network/interfaces
[12:54] <erUSUL> dooglus, /etc/hosts
[12:54] <chrisx1> Seveas, ty
[12:54] <dooglus> Seveas: ok, thanks
[12:55] <dooglus> erUSUL: it'd have to be one huge /etc/hosts!
[12:55] <kyncani> MiSS_n00b: i think if you follow the nvidia wiki, either it works with opengl or you don't get X working at all (but i'm no expert)
[12:55] <Seveas> eriksti, ok, ifconfig -a; iwconfig
[12:55] <Seveas> output on the pastebin again :)
[12:55] <dooglus> erUSUL: or are you suggesting that I can specify a nameserver in /etc/hosts?
[12:55] <Seveas> eriksti, and while you're at it: sudo iwlist scan
[12:55] <MiSS_n00b> i had opengl working before
[12:55] <erUSUL> zandaa, i do not know but i suspect that is not the case
[12:55] <eriksti> Seveas: no scan results
[12:56] <eriksti> Seveas: no wirless extensions
[12:56] <zandaa> erUSUL: so you're saying they don't work on 64>
[12:56] <Seveas> eriksti, is your accesspoint working? :)
[12:56] <zandaa> oh nvm
[12:56] <jdkycdoc> kenichi, yes i think thats it, anyway im reading something before doing so
[12:56] <erUSUL> dooglus, i missunderstood the question sorry
[12:57] <les_> anyone know when firefox 1.5 will be available
[12:57] <Seveas> never in breezy
[12:58] <j-linux> I like Firefox 1.0.7 better than 1.5...
[12:58] <les_> its got memory leaks
[12:58] <dooglus> Seveas: are you sure about "dns-nameservers"?  I don't see it mentioned in interfaces(5)...
[12:58] <_kcheung> !quicktime
[12:58] <ubotu> somebody said quicktime was read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information on quicktime support or just install the "libquicktime1" package.
[12:58] <Seveas> dooglus, maybe domain-name-servers
[12:58] <eriksti> Seveas: if I ping the ip i get fast reply
[12:58] <erUSUL> zandaa, yes
[12:58] <erUSUL> dooglus, man resolvconf
[12:59] <Seveas> eriksti, yeah, via the wired interface I guess
[12:59] <eriksti> Seveas: yes
[12:59] <Seveas> anyway, gotta run
[12:59] <Syirrus> I wish they would port foobar over to linux :)
[12:59] <kenichi> jdkycdoc: the Section "Screen" in your xorg.conf file should like this: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/5531
[12:59] <Johnson> hi
[12:59] <eriksti> anyone able to pick up where seveas left ?
[12:59] <Syirrus> Hello Johnson
[01:00] <ale3hs> I have download codecs32 however I cannot play rmvb files in gxine either wmv and wma
[01:00] <ale3hs> what codec I need for real player
[01:00] <ale3hs> ?
[01:00] <Johnson> what would you reckomend i should learn firt scapy or hping3 ?
[01:01] <brand0n> im attempting to apply a theme to a program, but can not find where i should unzip the theme, the archive has .fluxbox as a folder inside, where would this be on the system?
[01:01] <Syirrus> ?
[01:01] <brand0n> using synaptic, where are applications installed?
[01:01] <Johnson> im not sure which one would be the esyiest to learn
[01:02] <ale3hs> codec for rmvb files, somebody plz?
[01:02] <kyncani> ale3hs: i would try mplayer instead of xine
[01:02] <kyncani> ale3hs: or maybe vlc
[01:02] <erUSUL> brand0n, mainly under usr
[01:02] <dave_> brand0n: to know about all the files installed with a package use: dpkg -L <app_name>
[01:02] <BlueDevil> brand0n: man hier
[01:02] <brand0n> erUSUL, dave_ thanks, you too BlueDevil
[01:02] <ale3hs> kyncani, why there is any possibility to play with VLC?
[01:02] <les_> bye
[01:03] <ale3hs> kyncani, codecs arent shared?
[01:04] <graybandit> hey all - I finished installing ubuntu 5.10 on my old laptop, only apparent issue is it cannot find my sound card (Toshiba Satellite 4000cds, old) anywhere I should read up on to fix this?
[01:04] <kyncani> ale3hs: xine, mplayer and vlc are the three big video players for linux (with different interfaces for some of them, like gxine or totem-xine for xine). When i cannot play a vide with mplayer, i try xine, or vlc
[01:05] <jesse_> does anyone know how to install limewire
[01:05] <ale3hs> kyncani, vlc or mplayer cannot play rmvb files.. I just need a real player decoder I guess
[01:05] <Johnson_> is there any other security chat rooms?
[01:06] <kyncani> ale3hs: proprietary formats suck big time he ..
[01:06] <jesse_> no one knows how to put limewire on ubuntu?
[01:06] <ale3hs> kyncani, maybe but I just want to watch a movie so I dont really care :)
[01:07] <Johnson_> whats the best site for tutorials?
[01:07] <ale3hs> jesse_,  download gtk-gnutella from synaptic
[01:07] <_jason> ubotu, tell jesse_ about limewire
[01:07] <_jason> Johnson_, tutorials for?
[01:07] <dooglus> I've added a line to the end of /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh saying "echo nameserver 192.168.1.1 | resolvconf -a eth0".  Is that reasonable, or is there a 'proper' way to set my DNS server?
[01:07] <zandaa> <_< I can't get vlc to play DVDs
[01:07] <Johnson_> attacking tutorials?
[01:07] <zandaa> anyone help me?
[01:08] <kenichi> zandaa: you seem to have a lot of problems ;)
[01:08] <zandaa> kenichi, I know <_< I don't really understand any of it...
[01:08] <qt2> Flash works fine in firefox via sudo, but not if i run it as a normal user, anyone have any clue what could be wrong?
[01:08] <zandaa> kenichi, plus this being my first linux install that works
[01:08] <dooglus> zandaa: what's the problem?
[01:09] <kenichi> zandaa: all i can say is that vlc should play dvds by default. just choose the correct drive and play it
[01:09] <ma5terdp> hay quick question for someone who knows ubuntu /linux
[01:09] <dooglus> zandaa: did you install the dvdcss2 thingy?
[01:09] <zandaa> dooglus, yes I did
[01:09] <zandaa> dooglus, I don't know how to let vlc play the DVD I inserted into my drive
[01:09] <ardchoille> bbiab
[01:09] <ma5terdp> how do i access my hardrive in ubuntu ??
[01:09] <ma5terdp> using live cd
[01:09] <dooglus> zandaa: I use this command to play DVDs: xine --auto-play=fq --auto-scan dvd &
[01:10] <ma5terdp> anyone?
[01:10] <MiSS_n00b> hi can anyone help im having probs with my nvidia drivers, open gl isnt working, and theres a black strip down the left side of the screen, i have tried reinstalling the drivers, any ideas how i can fix this?
[01:10] <zandaa> dooglus, I'm not using Xine
[01:10] <jesse_> when i go to run limewire
[01:10] <ale3hs> somebody plz, I got w32codecs but still cannot play rmvb files, a solution plz
[01:10] <leather_n_luv> how do i manualy get my modem to work?
[01:10] <kenichi> ma5terdp: you have to mount the proper hard drive
[01:10] <jesse_> should i run it in the terminal or just run?
[01:10] <dooglus> zandaa: ok.  I don't know how to trick vlc into playing dvds
[01:10] <_jason> qt2, my guess would be a permissions problem, check the permissions for libflashplayer.so
[01:10] <dooglus> zandaa: did you install 'libdvdnav4'?
[01:10] <erUSUL> graybandit, try sudo modprobe snd-opl3sa2
[01:10] <zandaa> libdvdnav4?
[01:10] <jesse_> cause when i just click run nothing pops up
[01:11] <dooglus> zandaa: it's a dvd navigation package.  I don't know if vlc needs it or not.
[01:11] <dooglus> zandaa: but it might be worth a go...
[01:11] <ma5terdp> Canyone anyone help me get access to my hardrive using live cd>?>
[01:11] <kaz> how do I play wmv files in ubuntu?
[01:11] <zandaa> dooglus, according to my terminal it's installed
[01:11] <Jxpx> with mplayer u can Kaz
[01:11] <_jason> kaz, you'll need w32codecs
[01:11] <kaz> apt-get install mplayer?
[01:11] <dooglus> zandaa: did you try "vlc dvd://" ?
[01:11] <_jason> ubotu, tell kaz about mplayer
[01:11] <kenichi> ma5terdp: you have to mount the hard drive first befor you can access it
[01:11] <kaz> can I install them with apt?
[01:12] <Jxpx> yes
[01:12] <Jxpx> mplayer
[01:12] <_jason> ubotu, tell kaz about w32codecs
[01:12] <Jxpx> ;)
[01:12] <qt2> _jason, -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 2096844 2005-12-08 17:00 libflashplayer.so
[01:12] <ma5terdp> lmao man can anyone see me
[01:12] <ma5terdp> ?
[01:12] <Citydog> ubotu, tell Citydog about mplayer
[01:12] <dooglus> ma5terdp: I can
[01:12] <ma5terdp> how do i mount hd
[01:12] <ma5terdp> i tired mnt /dev/hda2
[01:13] <zandaa> dooglus, dvdread demuxer error: DVDRead cannot open source:
[01:13] <ma5terdp> tried
[01:13] <ale3hs> ubotu, tell ale3hs about real player
[01:13] <_jason> qt2, hrmm, try running firefox without sudo but in safemode and see if it works: firefox -safe-mode
[01:13] <Jxpx> ubotu, tell jxpx about w32codecs
[01:13] <BlueDevil> ma5terdp: isn't it already mounted?
[01:13] <ale3hs> ubotu, tell ale3hs about realplayer
[01:13] <Citydog> ubuto, tell Citydog about divx
[01:13] <_jason> qt2, never mind that is a dumb idea since it won't load flash, try a new profile
[01:13] <jdkycdoc> kenichi, hi, i just checked and in my xorg.conf i only have resolution 1280x800 but in the gnome condiguration tool 1280x768 appears and i think that is what i have now, any clue?
[01:13] <ma5terdp> no here is the situation...
[01:13] <dooglus> zandaa: "ls -l /dev/dvd" <-- what's it tell you?
[01:13] <ma5terdp> im in windows right now
[01:13] <jesse_> when i try running runLime.sh nothing pops up
[01:13] <qt2> _jason, alraedy tried a new profile, still freezes.
[01:13] <jesse_> dows anyone no why
[01:13] <BlueDevil> ma5terdp: check under /media/
[01:14] <ma5terdp> iam using ubuntu live cd
[01:14] <Citydog> ubotu, tell Citydog about divx
[01:14] <ma5terdp> i have 2 hd non are mounted
[01:14] <zandaa> dooglus, lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 3 2005-12-09 00:12 /dev/dvd -> hdb
[01:14] <kenichi> ma5terdp: mount -t <filesystem> </dev/hdxy> </media/mountpoint>
[01:14] <Citydog> ubotu, tell Citydog about realplayer
[01:14] <kenichi> ma5terdp: befor you have to create the "mountpoint" folder
[01:14] <ma5terdp> ok im kinda slow on this
[01:14] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: what took you so long?
[01:14] <kaz> thanks
[01:14] <dooglus> zandaa: can you mount the DVD and see the list of .vob files, etc?
[01:15] <zandaa> mount dvd?
[01:15] <kenichi> ma5terdp: did you get it?
[01:15] <Millenniumgroup> BlueDevil, hi it didn't work+I've run into a few problems in virtual terminal, but I finally managed to do the sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.ok /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:15] <leather_n_luv> can anyone help me get a modem to work?
[01:15] <dooglus> zandaa: "sudo mount /media/dvd" maybe?
[01:15] <zandaa> dooglus, I know
[01:15] <zandaa> dooglus, and I did that
[01:15] <collinder> hey all
[01:15] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: why didn't it work?
[01:15] <dooglus> zandaa: and it worked?
[01:15] <Millenniumgroup> it gave me an error screen, red screen like hz to much or something
[01:15] <DRAGON_Ultra> what modem you have
[01:15] <ma5terdp> ok i need access to my first hardrive second partion what would the code look like>>???
[01:15] <collinder> im haveing trouble with my nvidia drivers
[01:15] <ma5terdp> cmd?
[01:15] <marcel_> join#<floripa>
[01:15] <MonoNoGoldSaint> night!
[01:15] <collinder> ive read the wiki
[01:15] <leather_n_luv> http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php/product/2609/sort/2/cat/168/page/1
[01:15] <zandaa> dooglus, totem tried to open the dvd when I mounted
[01:16] <Millenniumgroup> and I couldn't use the gui, because the red screen blocked my options lol. so I used recovery mode
[01:16] <BlueDevil> Millenniumgroup: then you're stuck @60Hz
[01:16] <leather_n_luv> theat's my modem
[01:16] <Millenniumgroup> yup I guess so
[01:16] <MonoNoGoldSaint> hey, I'm trying to compile subcommnander (svn client) from its source.
[01:16] <MonoNoGoldSaint> but I get this error:
[01:16] <collinder> i get this error screen once i restart afterwards
[01:16] <Millenniumgroup> well at least it looks sharper and I can see a lot more :)
[01:16] <leather_n_luv> *that's*
[01:16] <Millenniumgroup> tx again BlackDevil :)
[01:16] <MonoNoGoldSaint> found qt version ./configure: line 5930: yes/bin/moc: No such file or directory but I need 3.2 <= version < 4.0.0
[01:16] <whyameye> confused about adding users and groups. I wanted to add user 'radio' to group 'audio'. How would I do this? What ended up happening is that I added user 'radio' to group 'radio.' How do I undo this?
[01:16] <dooglus> zandaa: I think I'm going to have to duck out of this one, on account of not having a clue how to help you.  sorry!
[01:16] <MonoNoGoldSaint> How do I get qt 3.2?
[01:16] <dooglus> whyameye: sudo adduser radio audio
[01:16] <erUSUL> ma5terdp, mount -t <fstype> /dev/hda2 /mnt/<mountpoint>
[01:16] <zandaa> dooglus, it's ok... don't need to apologise, you tried to help me.. that's what matters to me
[01:16] <collinder> does anyone know the propper way to install an agp nvidia graphics card it will be the main monitor... it is the main monitor now but it doesnt work
[01:17] <collinder> thanks in advance
[01:17] <ma5terdp> that is fstype
[01:17] <MiSS_n00b> hi can anyone help im having probs with my nvidia drivers, open gl isnt working, and theres a black strip down the left side of the screen, i have tried reinstalling the drivers, any ideas how i can fix this?
[01:17] <ma5terdp> what is fstype & mountpoint?
[01:17] <zandaa> kenichi, you know how to get vlc to play DVD then?
[01:17] <dooglus> whyameye: and "sudo deluser radio radio"
[01:17] <whyameye> dooglus, I tried that first, and I got adduser: The user `radio' does not exist.
[01:17] <kenichi> zandaa: one second
[01:17] <pramz> hello everyone :-)
[01:17] <BlueDevil> collinder: are you running X now?
[01:17] <guest_> hello
[01:17] <erUSUL> whyameye, use System_Preferences_Users...
[01:17] <dooglus> whyameye: does user 'radio' exist?
[01:17] <ma5terdp> nope
[01:17] <guest_> wath goin on
[01:17] <pramz> firefox 1.5 is fun :-)
[01:17] <levander> Did mplayer stop working when anybody else upgraded to breezy?
[01:17] <kenichi> ma5terdp: what is the filesystem on your harddrive? is it ntfs or fat32 or ext2/3?
[01:17] <MonoNoGoldSaint> so... anyone know where could I get qt 3.2 to compile this app?
[01:18] <ma5terdp> im under windows i can ppo3 under
[01:18] <Technobabble> pramz, what's different about it?
[01:18] <collinder> bluedevil: im on my lap top cause now im installing 5.04
[01:18] <leather_n_luv> DRAGON_Ultra: you looking at the link?
[01:18] <whyameye> dooglus, I tried the deluser commmand and it is telling me I cannot remove the user from his/her primary group...
[01:18] <BlueDevil> collinder: why 5.04?
[01:18] <ma5terdp> the file system is mac os x intelx86
[01:18] <collinder> bluedevil: it wouldnt let me rollback
[01:18] <ma5terdp> its ntfs + x86 mac os x
[01:18] <dooglus> whyameye: ok.  user radio is in group radio by default.
[01:18] <ma5terdp> i need access to the mac os
[01:18] <dooglus> whyameye: you don't need to remove it
[01:18] <ma5terdp> not ntfs
[01:18] <collinder> bledevil: cause the drivers dont seem to be working for 5.1... everyone is showing me these wikis... i follow them and then i get these errors
[01:18] <kenichi> ma5terdp: that must be hfs+ i think
[01:19] <dooglus> whyameye: like user whyameye is in group whyameye by default, too
[01:19] <ma5terdp> yup
[01:19] <levander> When people put these wierd repositories in their sources.list, like PLF, how do they make sure it doesn't install packages they don't want?
[01:19] <ma5terdp> ur exactly right hfs+
[01:19] <BlueDevil> MonoNoGoldSaint: sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt-dev
[01:19] <kyncani> whyameye: erUSUL is right, use the graphical tool : system -> preferences -> user
[01:19] <erUSUL> ma5terdp, filesystemtype ntfs or vfat or ext2 or ext3 or xfs or hpfs ... mountpoint is a directory in your hard disk
[01:19] <kenichi> ma5terdp: but i dont know if ubuntu has the drivers for this file system...
[01:19] <leather_n_luv> whyameye: any user you add will automaticaly make a group of (there-name-here)
[01:19] <ma5terdp> it should u would think
[01:19] <kenichi> erUSUL: you know if ubuntu can mount hfs+
[01:20] <whyameye> kyncani, erUSUL, dooglus, leather_n_luv: I just tried the graphical tool and it worked great with no problems. I don't know why sudo adduser radio audio didn't work in the first place but...good to have this solved!
[01:20] <ma5terdp> so what would i type mount -t hfs+ /dev/hda2 /mnt/<mountpoint>
[01:20] <BlueDevil> good night people
[01:20] <MonoNoGoldSaint> BlueDevil: it says I already have the newest version. :(
[01:20] <zandaa> good night bluedevil
[01:20] <whyameye> nobody here has experience with Rivendell, do they?
[01:20] <MonoNoGoldSaint> BlueDevil: night!
[01:20] <kenichi> ma5terdp: mountpoint is a folder you have to create on your harddrive/virtual harddrive
[01:20] <dooglus> whyameye: I don't know either.  did you create the user first, then try to add them to the group?  if you didn't create the user first, that'll be whyt.
[01:20] <MonoNoGoldSaint> BlueDevil: All I wanted was the old one (3.2)
[01:21] <erUSUL> ma5terdp, try this sudo mkdir /mnt/mcos && sudo mount -t auto /dev/hda2 /mnt/mcos
[01:21] <leather_n_luv> can someone help me with a modem problem?
[01:21] <MonoNoGoldSaint> BlueDevil: I have the compat libraries but they are not helping either.
[01:21] <ma5terdp> ok can y help me do this first ..
[01:21] <whyameye> dooglus: yes I didn't create the user first. So how would I have done that, just so I know?
[01:21] <erUSUL> kenichi, no i do not know
[01:21] <ubuntu324324> hello
[01:21] <ma5terdp> how do i ppoe on utub
[01:21] <kenichi> zandaa: yes i know how to play a dvd with vlc
[01:21] <ubuntu324324> good night
[01:21] <ma5terdp> i need 2 log on dsl
[01:21] <zandaa> kenichi, I got some further to an error code
[01:21] <ma5terdp> under ubuntu
[01:22] <ma5terdp> so i can chat whith u guys while im doing this
[01:22] <BlueDevil> MonoNoGoldSaint: do you have qt4-dev installed?
[01:22] <MonoNoGoldSaint> BlueDevil: let me see, but I guess so.
[01:22] <kenichi> ma5terdp: u create a folder with "mkdir <foldername>"
[01:22] <dooglus> whyameye: just "sudo adduser radio"
[01:22] <zandaa> kenichi, where do I go for large pastes?
[01:22] <dooglus> whyameye: or use the gui, of course...
[01:22] <ma5terdp> how do i pppoe under ubuntu?
[01:22] <kenichi> zandaa: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/
[01:23] <whyameye> dooglus: so I should have typed "sudo adduser radio" then typed "sudo adduser radio audio"?
[01:23] <ma5terdp> cuzz im under windows right now i wanna get on and chat with u a bit while im trying 2 do this
[01:23] <erUSUL> ma5terdp, pppoeconf
[01:23] <ma5terdp> under ubuntu
[01:23] <zandaa> kenichi, hehe *.nl is my national domainsuffix
[01:23] <ma5terdp> is that under apps
[01:23] <leather_n_luv> ma5terdp: what kind of os are you going through?
[01:23] <MonoNoGoldSaint> BlueDevil: I do.
[01:23] <ma5terdp> im in windows now iam bout 2 use live cd ubuntu
[01:23] <kenichi> zandaa: so where are you from? :)
[01:23] <erUSUL> ma5terdp, run pppoeconf
[01:23] <MonoNoGoldSaint> BlueDevil: I have to get rid of it?
[01:23] <bimberi> !pppoe
[01:23] <ubotu> well, pppoe is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[01:23] <ma5terdp> undert ubuntu
[01:23] <erUSUL> ma5terdp, in a terminal
[01:23] <kenichi> zandaa: i know from nl, but from which city?
[01:23] <ma5terdp> ok brb
[01:24] <ma5terdp> restarting pc in ubuntu
[01:24] <zandaa> kenichi, IJmuiden (you in NL too??)
[01:24] <collinder> can anyone help me with my nvidia driver problem???
[01:24] <dooglus> whyameye: that's about the size of it, yes.
[01:24] <zandaa> kenichi, http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/5532
[01:24] <dooglus> whyameye: try it now with "radio2" instead of "radio" for practice :)
[01:24] <kenichi> zandaa: no, im in germany/osnabrck. its near nl. about an hour away
[01:24] <zandaa> kenichi, ah I see
[01:24] <leather_n_luv> ma5terdp: if you are networking your pc with the live cd to a pc that is logged on, just select to auto config network
[01:25] <BlueDevil> MonoNoGoldSaint: i think so
[01:25] <MonoNoGoldSaint> BlueDevil: I'm removing it, let's see.
[01:25] <whyameye> dooglus: thanks I just tried with radio2 and it worked great! Thanks!
[01:25] <kyncani> gnite erUSUL
[01:26] <lightbright> MonoNoGoldSaint: hello
[01:26] <lightbright> whyameye: cool
[01:26] <MonoNoGoldSaint> lightbright: hello
[01:26] <leather_n_luv> has anyone here overcome a modem problem? i need help...
[01:26] <zandaa> kenichi, it seems encrypted dvd support is missing, but I just installed...
[01:26] <leather_n_luv> i have a 82801AA 810 Chipset AC'97 PCI Modem (vendor:8086 device:2416)
[01:26] <lightbright> leather_n_luv: i use a modem
[01:26] <collinder> anyone looking at a monitor that uses an nvidia video card???? and can you explain to me how to do it.... i keep getting these errors
[01:27] <dooglus> whyameye: now you can "man deluser" to find out how to get rid of 'radio2' and his home directory in a single command...
[01:27] <dooglus> whyameye: "sudo deluser radio2" will leave his home directory by default
[01:27] <leather_n_luv> linux won't recognize a modem that linuxquestions.org has in HCL as compatible
[01:27] <lightbright> leather_n_luv: have you ran pppconfig yet?
[01:27] <whyameye> dooglus: oops, I already did "sudo deluser radio2." I can just delete the home directory manually?
[01:27] <dooglus> whyameye: sure
[01:28] <leather_n_luv> lightbright: in console right?
[01:28] <whyameye> dooglus: done! Thanks!
[01:28] <kenichi> zandaa: what encrypted dvd?
[01:28] <dooglus> whyameye: "deluser" has an option to make a backup on the home dir before deleting it too
[01:28] <dooglus> kenichi: I guess he's talking about dvdcss2
[01:28] <zandaa> kenichi, I don't know
[01:28] <zandaa> dooglus, dvdcss2 huh?
[01:28] <lightbright> leather_n_luv: yes  sudo pppconfig
[01:29] <__Kaz> hmmm I installed "The Codecs" but I still can't play this wmv
[01:29] <__Kaz> do I have to do anything else to let it know "The Codecs" exist now?
[01:29] <leather_n_luv> lightbright: yup, didn't work...
[01:29] <lightbright> leather_n_luv: how do you know?  did you type pon?
[01:30] <lightbright> leather_n_luv: did you ADD USER in pppconfig?
[01:30] <lightbright> leather_n_luv: do you know how to set up pppconfig?
[01:30] <_jason> __Kaz, what's "it"?
[01:30] <leather_n_luv> lightbright: i read the docs...
[01:30] <__Kaz> a .wmv file
[01:30] <dooglus__> zandaa: do you have a package called libdvdcss2 installed?
[01:31] <lightbright> leather_n_luv: did you set up pppconfig?
[01:31] <kenichi> zandaa: but you can play a dvd if you just enter "/media/cdrom/" (or whatever your dvd drive is) as "device name" in the "open disc" menu
[01:31] <_jason> __Kaz, what are you playing it with?
[01:31] <leather_n_luv> lightbright: brb...
[01:31] <lightbright> leather_n_luv: did you add your details, and modem port etc?
[01:31] <mustard5> __Kaz, I think he means what player are you trying to watch it in
[01:31] <__Kaz> oh sorry... totem
[01:31] <zandaa> dooglus, I can't install it
[01:31] <lightbright> leather_n_luv: as you wish :)
[01:31] <dooglus__> zandaa: why not?
[01:31] <__Kaz> (the ubuntu default player)
[01:31] <zandaa> dooglus, it says it's not available on the repositories
[01:31] <_jason> __Kaz, if you want to use totem to play wmv's, you should install the xine backend for it... totem-xine is the package I believe
[01:31] <lightbright> anyone know how to edit a VOB?  or convert it to AVI?
[01:32] <__Kaz> ok thanks... I'll try that
[01:32] <dooglus__> zandaa: it isn't.  but if you install libdvdread3 and then read /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/README.Debian you'll find how to install it
[01:32] <BrainDamage> hello, i need little help... :))) i have debian 3.1. i have changed mount points of my cdrom device and dvdrom device, and now, synaptic doesn't recognize that devices. Is there any hope for me ??? :)))
[01:32] <__Kaz> tell __kaz about totem-xine :)
[01:32] <BrainDamage> debian 3.1 = ubuntu 5.04
[01:32] <jesse_> i downloaded a bin file of the new java and idk how to get it to install
[01:32] <leather_n_luv> lightbright: ok, i'm at the modem detect method screen...
[01:32] <jesse_> can someone help me
[01:32] <korhalf> jesse_, whyd you do that?
[01:32] <korhalf> jesse_, sudo apt-get install jre2.4
[01:33] <lightbright> leather_n_luv: chose DONT detect
[01:33] <_jason> ubotu, tell __Kaz about totem-xine
[01:33] <jesse_> cause limewire said my java bad
[01:33] <mustard5> BrainDamage, I would think it would be easy enough to change them back
[01:33] <leather_n_luv> lightbright: k
[01:33] <jesse_> i didnt see 2.4 on it
[01:33] <korhalf> jre1.4 sorry
[01:33] <lightbright> leather_n_luv: what port is it on?
[01:33] <__Kaz> ubuntu is like THE distro now isn't it?
[01:33] <BrainDamage> mustard5, how?
[01:33] <korhalf> j2re1.4 - Blackdown Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition
[01:33] <whyameye> there's a jack-init package for Debian so JACK starts on startup. What is equivalent for ubuntu?
[01:33] <__Kaz> #1?
[01:33] <Kyral> ubotu tell jesse_ about SunJava
[01:33] <mustard5> BrainDamage, you used the pastebin before?
[01:33] <lightbright> leather_n_luv: message me
[01:33] <jesse_> whats it called in synaptic?
[01:33] <korhalf> j2re1.4
[01:33] <BrainDamage> mustard5, no!
[01:33] <leather_n_luv> lightbright: message?
[01:34] <leather_n_luv> pm?
[01:34] <Kyral> jesse_: read what ubotu told you
[01:34] <mustard5> ubotu: tell BrainDamage about pastebing
[01:34] <gach> hello
[01:34] <jesse_> k
[01:34] <lightbright> leather_n_luv: message means send a message
[01:34] <mustard5> ubotu: tell BrainDamage about pastebin
[01:34] <zandaa> dooglus, it appears I couldn't install cuz I was missing somethings
[01:34] <gach> i have a  proble with 64 bits ubuntu
[01:34] <__Kaz> seems to have very good support, frquent updates, looks really nice & most importantly -- everything just seems to "work"
[01:34] <gach> it woint get past starting hotplug
[01:34] <collinder> ok im about to have a fresh install of ubuntu 5.1 on my desktop.... now will someone explain why nvidia drivers are such a bitch
[01:34] <gach> and then it hangs
[01:34] <raphink> __Kaz: indee
[01:34] <__Kaz> (except this WMV... but I'm sure it will be fixed in a sec here)
[01:34] <dooglus__> zandaa: you should be able to install libdvdread3, right?
[01:34] <raphink> indeed
[01:34] <zandaa> dooglus, it already is
[01:34] <Kyral> collinder: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[01:34] <mustard5> BrainDamage, copy and paste the contents of your /etc/fstab file in the pastebin and then paste the URL in here
[01:34] <Kyral> then restart X
[01:34] <dooglus__> ok, and you ran the script mentioned in the README?
[01:35] <__Kaz> woohoo.  wmv is playing :] 
[01:35] <jesse_> do i downlaod all those things?
[01:35] <collinder> kyrall: i do that then i restart hittin ctr alt back and then when it restarts i get a blue error screen
[01:35] <__Kaz> thanks all
[01:35] <raphink> __Kaz: it won't be fixed in main. closed-source formats are not included in the main part of the distro, willingly
[01:35] <Kyral> collinder: what does it say?
[01:35] <gach> hey
[01:35] <__Kaz> right, I understand
[01:35] <gach> i reallyu need this help
[01:35] <gach> anybody knows why it hans?
[01:35] <__Kaz> but if you know how to use the available help channels (ie forums, irc, wiki) then the solution is minutes away.
[01:36] <raphink> most of the time yes __Kaz
[01:36] <collinder> kyral: xwindow system version 6.8.2 (ubuntu 6.8.2-77 20051010174523 root@vernadsky.bu.ldd)
[01:36] <__Kaz> I've been putting ubuntu on family members boxes lately... since they can't seem to stop opening file attachments
[01:36] <zandaa> dooglus, it still isn't working <_<
[01:36] <raphink> gach: do you have a trace to past in a pastebin?
[01:36] <__Kaz> this is one of them actually :] 
[01:36] <ma5terdp> ok im back
[01:36] <ma5terdp> under Ubuntu
[01:36] <collinder> kyrall: release date blah blah blah x protocol blah blah blah build, current etc
[01:36] <dooglus__> zandaa: I'll need a little more info...  "not working" doesn't help me to help you...
[01:36] <ma5terdp> soo now what do i do to mount my hda
[01:36] <__Kaz> ok ... thanks all
[01:36] <dooglus__> zandaa: back in 10 minutes...
[01:37] <Kyral> collinder: near the end it will tell you the error
[01:37] <ma5terdp> i have terminal open
[01:37] <Citydog> !freeformat
[01:37] <ubotu> Citydog: Are you on ritalin?
[01:37] <ma5terdp> i need access to first hd second partition and its hfs+
[01:37] <Citydog> no
[01:37] <collinder> kyral
[01:37] <raphink> lol
[01:38] <Kyral> Citydog: thats just ubotu's response if you asked for something it has no clue about
[01:38] <Kyral> collinder: yes?
[01:38] <jesse_> kyral: Do i download all those things
[01:38] <raphink> ma5terdp: macintosh formats are not installed by default I believe, you have to install them
[01:38] <kenichi> ma5terdp: have you created your destination folder?
[01:38] <Kyral> jesse_: just follow the instructions
[01:38] <jesse_> ok
[01:38] <collinder> kyral: im lookin now all i see the last line is markers probed from config file
[01:38] <ma5terdp> no how do i do that
[01:39] <Aron_Figaro> Hey guys - I'm still stuck with a Samba sharing problem, my Windows box won't see it. Anybody? :)
[01:39] <Kyral> collinder: look for lines that have either "EE" or "!!" in them
[01:39] <Kyral> that should be the error
[01:39] <ma5terdp> i know i have a mac partition on my hd i need access to replace corrupt mach_kernel
[01:39] <raphink> ma5terdp: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php%3Fp=6878&mode=linear
[01:39] <lightbright> leather_n_luv: yes that would be best till you learn basics of computers
[01:39] <kenichi> ma5terdp: go with "cd" to "/media/
[01:39] <collinder> kyral
[01:39] <ma5terdp> ok im there
[01:39] <ma5terdp> now what
[01:39] <collinder> :kyral: there are no lines with that
[01:39] <ma5terdp> mkdir whateveriwant
[01:40] <ma5terdp> ?
[01:40] <raphink> ma5terdp: my ISP is being nuts, I'm not on the page yet. take the time to read it ;)
[01:40] <kenichi> yes
[01:40] <Kyral> collinder: then look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:40] <Kyral> the error is SOMEWHERE
[01:40] <ma5terdp> page not found
[01:40] <kenichi> ma5terdp: do you have synaptic package manager and can install software?
[01:40] <Aron_Figaro> *juggles flaming Windows CDs until somebody helps him with his SMB problem*
[01:40] <collinder> kyral: im reinsalling ubuntu now
[01:40] <collinder> kyral: im on my lap tom
[01:41] <collinder> laptop
[01:41] <ma5terdp> i dont know i am cd under media
[01:41] <ma5terdp> in terminal
[01:41] <raphink> ma5terdp: create a folder to mount your hard drive to
[01:41] <Kyral> collinder: very well lol. I personally find it a challenge (one of the GOOD ones) to rescue my system without reinstalling
[01:41] <raphink> s/hard drive/partition/
[01:41] <zandaa> where can I get a C Compiler?
[01:41] <raphink> Kyral: :)
[01:42] <raphink> zandaa: install build-essential
[01:42] <ma5terdp> so do a "mkdir /name'" ?
[01:42] <Kyral> zandaa: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:42] <collinder> kyral: its almost done... i dont get how the monitor is working now and then even when ubuntu is starting and then it switches over to the other monitor
[01:42] <mustard5> ma5terdp, skip the slash since you are in /media already
[01:42] <raphink> ma5terdp: for example : sudo mkdir /media/mac
[01:42] <kenichi> ma5terdp: "mkdir foldername"
[01:42] <Kyral> collinder: Wait "other monitor"?
[01:43] <zandaa> kyral: thanks, that's what I needed to know (one step away from my DVD working)
[01:43] <ma5terdp> ok i did a sudio mkdir mac
[01:43] <ma5terdp> sudo
[01:43] <ma5terdp> i ment
[01:43] <raphink> ok
[01:43] <collinder> kyral: yeah the agp is main the one im havin the problem with and my voodoo 3 (old school right there) is my secondary monitor
[01:43] <brand0n> can someone help me out? i dont know where to put the gtkrc file to get gtk theme to work?
[01:43] <collinder> kyral: hopefully lol
[01:43] <raphink> ma5terdp: now let's try to mount it first
[01:43] <ma5terdp> kk
[01:43] <Kyral> collinder: Try disconnecting the second monitor...
[01:43] <raphink> ma5terdp: sudo mount /dev/$yourdrive -t hfsplus /media/mac
[01:43] <kenichi> ma5terdp: try now "sudo mount -t hfs+ /dev/hda2 /media/mac"
[01:43] <raphink> ma5terdp: replacing $yourdrive with the right value ;)
[01:43] <brand0n> anyone?
[01:44] <collinder> kyral: that would be the one that works? should i also disconnec tt eh pci card?
[01:44] <Kyral> collinder: Multiple monitors is something I know nothing about lol. Lets see if the primary one works
[01:44] <raphink> kenichi: I belive it's hfsplus
[01:44] <ma5terdp> ok i did that onw what
[01:44] <kenichi> raphink: yeah. seems so ;)
[01:44] <collinder> kyral: but should i disconnect the card so theres no way it can detect it
[01:44] <ma5terdp> i see a drive on my deskto[
[01:44] <Kyral> collinder: sure if you want
[01:44] <ma5terdp> lol
[01:44] <kenichi> raphink: i just saw it here
[01:45] <levander> Has anybody installed the mplayer codecs from PLF?
[01:45] <MonoNoGoldSaint> thanks, see ya
[01:45] <raphink> ma5terdp: now your parition should be mounted on /media/mac
[01:45] <ma5terdp> omg u guys rockkkkkkkkkk let me check if i have accesss
[01:45] <raphink> kenichi: you're on a mac ? ;)
[01:45] <raphink> ma5terdp: now you probably want this partition automatically mounted on boot ...
[01:45] <kenichi> raphink: nope. ubuntu on x86
[01:45] <zandaa> kenichi, I finally get all the libraries working <_< and now vcl doesn't cooperate
[01:45] <collinder> kyral: ok the install has like 3 percent left
[01:46] <raphink> kenichi: same here, k7
[01:46] <Kyral> collinder: okay
[01:46] <kenichi> zandaa: what is this css2 for?
[01:46] <levander> Has anybody got mplayer working with w32codecs under breezy?
[01:46] <kenichi> raphink: old k6 here :(
[01:46] <raphink> kenichi: dvds if I'm not wrong
[01:46] <zandaa> kenichi: it's a library which can get around DVD security if I'm correct
[01:46] <ma5terdp> ok how do i rename a file on that drive
[01:46] <jesse_> kyral: i can find any instructions
[01:47] <Kyral> jesse_: did you read the WikiPage
[01:47] <_jason> levander, plenty of people I'm sure, are you having difficulties?
[01:47] <mustard5> levander, I would think most people would have
[01:47] <raphink> ma5terdp: the way you rename on other drives I guess ;)
[01:47] <kenichi> zandaa: i never had problems with vlc playing anything
[01:47] <ma5terdp> i need 2 rename mach_kernel copy to just mach_kernel
[01:47] <zandaa> kenichi, well I have... the DVD I got is a copied one I got from a friend
[01:47] <raphink> ma5terdp: do you need to mount this partition on every boot?
[01:47] <raphink> ma5terdp: use mv
[01:47] <Kyral> levander: My install is so old that I prolly have w32codecs from back when they were on Backports lol
[01:47] <raphink> ma5terdp: mv mach_kernel\ copy mach_kernel
[01:47] <levander> _jason: yeah, i'm using the w32codecs package from backports hoary still, do I have to upgrade that package to get it to work?
[01:48] <ma5terdp> no just now im just trying 2 replace my mach_kernel with the backup
[01:48] <_jason> levander, nope
[01:48] <Kyral> nope
[01:48] <collinder> kyral: alright i restarted i see my intel logo, ubuntu logo, everything is loading on the monitor
[01:48] <jesse_> there wasnt one
[01:48] <Kyral> collinder: then at least it isn't the monitor
[01:48] <kenichi> zandaa: even with those copied ones i came around i never had problems
[01:48] <xiaogil> when will we have firefox 1.5 in ubuntu
[01:48] <Kyral> ubotu tell jesse_ about SunJava
[01:48] <collinder> kyral: it couldnt have been i was runnin windows yesterday
[01:48] <levander> I'm trying to dump audio I've downloaded into a file I specify, but it keeps going into audiodump.wav in the current directory
[01:49] <collinder> kyral: now all i see is an underscore on the window
[01:49] <ma5terdp> so how do i rename it again
[01:49] <Kyral> jesse_: read what Ubotu said
[01:49] <mustard5> ma5terdp, use  a mv something like this  mv oldfilename newfilename
[01:49] <Kyral> ownload the pack and install
[01:49] <collinder> kyral: i heard the login sound and i dont see it
[01:49] <ma5terdp> gotcha
[01:49] <ma5terdp> brb\
[01:49] <kenichi> ma5terdp: you can rename a file with "mv oldfilename newfilename"
[01:49] <zandaa> kenichi, weird...
[01:49] <levander> they've changed some of the command line options for dumping audio to wav in the new mplayer in breezy, and i haven't figured them out yet
[01:49] <raphink> ma5terdp: I told you before
[01:49] <Kyral> collinder: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:49] <Canoeingkidd> xiaogil - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=96595
[01:49] <raphink> ma5terdp: you'll have to use a \ in the first file name for the space
[01:49] <ma5terdp> permisiion denided
[01:49] <kenichi> zandaa: you name it
[01:50] <mustard5> ma5terdp, use sudo
[01:50] <collinder> kyral: ok im loggin in now
[01:50] <kenichi> ma5terdp: "sudo mv old new"
[01:50] <raphink> ma5terdp: sudo mv mach_kernel\ copy mach_kernel
[01:50] <zandaa> kenichi, I'll call it a day (1:50 am, got an appointment at school tomorrow)
[01:50] <collinder> kyral: i didnt install the packets on this install yet should i do that before i do this in terminal?
[01:50] <zandaa> dooglus, thanks for all your help perhaps I'll see you later
[01:50] <Kyral> collinder: it doesn't matter
[01:50] <rockz> where i find my cdr driver /dev/ ... ?
[01:51] <ma5terdp> thank u cheif ur da shitttttt
[01:51] <Kyral> right now we want X :D
[01:51] <Kyral> rockz: Driver?
[01:51] <brand0n> can someone help me out? id like to use gtk instead of gtk2 and fluxbox instead of metacity, but dont know hot to go about changing that
[01:51] <Kyral> !fluxbox
[01:51] <ubotu> fluxbox is, like, forked off blackbox and is found at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net or the new blackbox, with antialias, better menu, etc.
[01:51] <Kyral> ...remind me to change that
[01:51] <Kyral> brand0n: gimme a sec
[01:51] <brand0n> Kyral, thanks
[01:51] <collinder> kyral: alright i did it
[01:52] <Kyral> collinder: X is up?
[01:52] <kenichi> ma5terdp: so youve got osx running on your x86?
[01:52] <init_bud> can anyone help me install pure-ftpd?
[01:52] <collinder> kyral: yes its going to want to install the voodo hardware not the nvidia hardware
[01:52] <kenichi> ma5terdp: what processor u have?
[01:52] <raphink> kenichi: I bet he's on ubuntu on ppc rather ;)
[01:52] <raphink> it's kind of easier
[01:52] <raphink> ;)
[01:52] <Kyral> brand0n: read this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox
[01:52] <ma5terdp> yah
[01:52] <rockz> drive
[01:52] <ma5terdp> p4
[01:53] <brand0n> Kyral, thanks :)
[01:53] <ma5terdp> pentium 4
[01:53] <kenichi> raphink: but hten he wouldnt have xp installed
[01:53] <collinder> kyral: x is up
[01:53] <mustard5> init_bud, how are you trying to install it?
[01:53] <Kyral> collinder: I don't know if Voodoo is supported...
[01:53] <Kyral> I mean what do you want to do
[01:53] <ma5terdp> i have xp on first partition and x86 mac on second
[01:53] <kenichi> ma5terdp: hows it working
[01:53] <raphink> o_O
[01:53] <ma5terdp> awssssssssssommmmmmmmmme
[01:53] <Kyral> run multiple monitors?
[01:53] <collinder> kyral:thats the monitor that is working
[01:53] <mustard5> init_bud, its availabe through synaptic package manager ..you could install that way
[01:53] <ma5terdp> i just screweed up on the 4.3 updated with wrong kernel hence my problem
[01:53] <init_bud> mustard5, well, i looked for a gui install or something easy. but i ended up just downloading the manual install and its telling me that i dont have a C compiler.
[01:53] <raphink> where did you get x86 mac ma5terdp  ?
[01:53] <logical_mark> Could someone help me out. My sound is very crackly and I have a common chipset: Realtek AC97
[01:53] <ma5terdp> bittorent
[01:53] <raphink> ma5terdp: LOL
[01:53] <ma5terdp> look up intel x86
[01:53] <kenichi> ma5terdp: why not buying a real mac?
[01:54] <ma5terdp> works way better
[01:54] <Kyral> raphink: its highly illegal
[01:54] <raphink> ok
[01:54] <rockz> where i find my cdr drive /dev/ ... ?
[01:54] <ma5terdp> under intel proccessor
[01:54] <Kyral> ma5terdp: please don't discuss this
[01:54] <mustard5> init_bud, search for it in synaptic package manager
[01:54] <ma5terdp> sorry
[01:54] <raphink> Kyral: yes I know that, thats' what I ask
[01:54] <init_bud> mustard5, where is that? the synaptic package manager
[01:54] <Kyral> rockz: it will be under /media/cdrom/
[01:54] <init_bud> mustard5, you mean apt ?
[01:54] <ma5terdp> sorry kyral
[01:54] <mustard5> init_bud, apt if you like yes
[01:54] <Kyral> rockz: or rather it WILL be /media/cdrom/
[01:54] <rockz> hmm i will try this
[01:54] <PokerFacePenguin> anyone have any idea why system button >> storage media doesn't list what is in my /media directory?  if i go to a konsole...there is stuff in there.
[01:54] <init_bud> mustard5, when i do "apt-cache search pure" and "ftp" etc... it dosent show up as a result!
[01:54] <collinder> kyral: should i select nv, is that for nvidia?
[01:55] <mustard5> init_bud, sugo apt-get install pure-ftpd
[01:55] <logical_mark> Can anyone help me with making my sound not crackle?
[01:55] <Kyral> collinder: yes, until you get the NVidia GLX
[01:55] <Boze> Hello all, could I ask a question here about removing items from my drop-down menu?
[01:55] <Kyral> collinder: Are you trying to run multiple monitors
[01:55] <collinder> kyral: ok so ill update and get all the packets and then do this
[01:55] <kenichi> well, im going to bed now. GOOD NIGHT ALL
[01:55] <franky123> logical_mark: that happened to me, make sure the system volume, rhythmbox volume, and totem volume and anything else are not set to max
[01:55] <collinder> kyral yes
[01:55] <mustard5> init_bud, if it says its not there then you need to add extra repositories..as its in the universe repository
[01:55] <ma5terdp> ok wish me luck everyone im restarting ill check back in a sec
[01:55] <Kyral> Boze: Try using the Menu-Edtor
[01:55] <ma5terdp> thanks again everyone
[01:55] <init_bud> mustard5, right....
[01:55] <kenichi> ma5terdp: bye
[01:55] <init_bud> mustard5, and how do i do that? :)
[01:56] <ma5terdp> later kenichi
[01:56] <Kyral> collinder: I can get your Hardware Accel working, but I know nothing about multiple monitors
[01:56] <ma5terdp> later kyral
[01:56] <mustard5> ubotu: tell init_bud about repos
[01:56] <ma5terdp> brb
[01:56] <mustard5> init_bud, check PM ubotu
[01:56] <collinder> ok
[01:56] <Boze> rhanks Kyral, didnt even see it till you pointed it out.
[01:56] <logical_mark> franky123: The system volume is not turned all the way up. Nor anything else
[01:56] <collinder> kyral: i would rather have the nvidia monitor working... so i can try to play some half life
[01:56] <phiqtion> is there a newer version for the firefox that ubuntu ships?
[01:57] <mustard5> init_bud, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[01:57] <franky123> logical_mark: try killing esd and using alsa
[01:58] <logical_mark> franky123: how do I do that? I am new to linux
[01:58] <Ober> sudo -s
[01:58] <Ober> sdo: unable to lookup mateis via gethostbyname()
[01:58] <Kyral> collinder: so is X working now?
[01:58] <Ober> real piece of works guys....
[01:58] <pigo> salve
[01:58] <phiqtion> is there a newer version for the firefox that ubuntu ships?
[01:58] <mustard5> Ober, your /etc/hosts file is probably incomplete
[01:59] <Ober> or I have no networking
[01:59] <Boze> Are there any ways to play MP3 and MPG on ubuntu?
[01:59] <collinder> kyral: x was working... but it was running on the voodoo card not the nvidia card
[01:59] <Kyral> phiqtion: I think Breezy uses FF 1 right now. FF 1.5 should be coming soon
[01:59] <Ober> imagine a laptop away from a network
[01:59] <Ober> god what a piece of shit.
[01:59] <franky123> logical_mark: there are two ways, first way is to go to the gnome menu->system->preferences->mutimedia systems selector and just play around with the settings. second way is to go to terminal and type "killall esd"
[01:59] <Kyral> collinder: What is connected now?
[01:59] <Xenguy> good riddance Ober :P
[01:59] <collinder> kyral: both monitors are connected now...
[01:59] <Kyral> Boze: Beep Media Player has MP3 out of the box
[01:59] <|ed|> anyone around?
[01:59] <|ed|> i have a question
[02:00] <Kyral> collinder: I mean what card is it runnnig off of
[02:00] <collinder> kyral voodoo3
[02:00] <|ed|> ive installed edubuntu on my sons ibook how do i enable autologin?
[02:00] <Kyral> ubotu tell Boze about restrictedformats
[02:00] <Kyral> |ed|: I don't think you can...
[02:00] <|ed|> and the thing freezes when you close the LCD
[02:00] <Kyral> its pretty insecure
[02:00] <Kyral> to autologin
[02:01] <|ed|> its ed ubuntu
[02:01] <robotgeek> |ed|: i'm not sure what edubuntu uses, but if it's gdm you can set it up using gdmsetup
[02:01] <|ed|> its for my son
[02:01] <collinder> kyral: i am now downloading the nvidia packages
[02:01] <Kyral> |ed|: I know
[02:01] <mustard5> Kyral, I know the option exists in breezy..but I have no clue about edubuntu
[02:01] <|ed|> gdm?
[02:01] <Kyral> |ed|: Autologin is insecure for any Linux
[02:01] <|ed|> i know that but its for a kid
[02:01] <Kyral> mustard5: edubuntu is just like Kubuntu and Ubuntu
[02:01] <Kyral> |ed|: sorry lol my old Linux habits are kicking in
[02:01] <Boze> Smeg wont let me delete items, just hide them
[02:01] <init_bud> mustard5, sweet. i just checked them all...
[02:02] <robotgeek> |ed|: sudo gdmsetup
[02:02] <init_bud> mustard5, thanks for the tip, and the info
[02:02] <Kyral> Boze: Did you read the link ubotu sent you?
[02:02] <Kyral> about MPG?
[02:02] <Kyral> |ed|: it should be in GDM Setup
[02:02] <mustard5> init_bud, np
[02:02] <Boze> going now, thanks
[02:02] <Kyral> |ed|: but I would give him an account that doesn't have Sudo access
[02:03] <|ed|> he would need the su password no?
[02:03] <Kyral> |ed|: did you enable root?
[02:03] <mustard5> init_bud, were you able to install it ?
[02:03] <|ed|> yeah theres a root account
[02:03] <Kyral> |ed|: then nevermind lol
[02:03] <collinder> ok the new york ranger game is starting now... ima go watch it and stop thinkin about ubuntu for a couple of minutes.... kyral thanks for your help
[02:04] <Kyral> |ed|: I didn't know Edubuntu shipped with Root enabled
[02:04] <Boze> One last thing, if I may...
[02:04] <Boze> My mouse wheel doesnt scroll up, it opens a menu. Can I make it scroll up?
[02:05] <Kyral> Boze: you mean when you "roll" the wheel it opens a menu?
[02:05] <Boze> Yes
[02:05] <Boze> for the app it is in
[02:05] <init_bud> mustard5, ok. one mre question.
[02:05] <Kyral> Boze: Hmm, its somewhere in your X Config
[02:05] <mustard5> init_bud, ask as many as you like
[02:05] <|ed|> i had kubuntu installed first
[02:05] <Boze> xorg.cfg?
[02:05] <Kyral> |ed|: ahh
[02:06] <init_bud> mustard5, now thate i've installed it via apt-get install. where does it put the icon? or how do i make a shortcut to run it?
[02:06] <Kyral> Boze: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:06] <_SvaMpen_> is it recommended running ubuntu on a 600mhz crusoe 128 MB ram
[02:06] <mustard5> init_bud, you on breezy?
[02:06] <_SvaMpen_> ?
[02:06] <init_bud> mustard5, .... what?
[02:06] <Kyral> _SvaMpen_: you'd need to go low resource
[02:06] <logical_mark> franky123: I went into sound preferences and it said my default sound card was via 8237, but that is my SATA Raid, my sound is Realtek AC97. What do I do?
[02:06] <Boze> ok, thanks. I will play with all these tips. You've been a most generous help Kyral.
[02:06] <mustard5> init_bud, type cat /etc/issue in terminal and tell me what you get
[02:06] <kenichi> BYE BYE ALL
[02:06] <Kyral> Boze: Its what I do :D
[02:06] <_SvaMpen_> Kyral how do i go low resource
[02:06] <|ed|> i built this system originaly to play with ubuntu ibook
[02:06] <_SvaMpen_> i alredy installed ubuntu
[02:07] <init_bud> Permission Denied
[02:07] <_SvaMpen_> and its a litle slow
[02:07] <mustard5> init_bud, use sudo cat /etc/issue then
[02:07] <Kyral> _SvaMpen_: install Fluxbox
[02:07] <Kyral> for one
[02:07] <Kyral> it won't have as many features as GNOME
[02:07] <_SvaMpen_> oki openbox??
[02:07] <Kyral> but it will be faster
[02:07] <init_bud> Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" \n \l
[02:07] <init_bud> mustard5, Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" \n \l
[02:07] <mustard5> init_bud, ok your on breezy
[02:07] <Kyral> _SvaMpen_: If you know how to work openbox then go ahead :D
[02:08] <mustard5> init_bud, breezy has a menu editor in the Applications>>System tools
[02:08] <_SvaMpen_> Kyral i only want to surf the web
[02:08] <Kyral> _SvaMpen_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox
[02:08] <_SvaMpen_> and check my mail
[02:08] <logical_mark> Someone help me out on this issue please... I went into sound preferences and it said my default sound card was via 8237, but that is my SATA Raid, my sound is Realtek AC97. What do I do?
[02:08] <_SvaMpen_> and compile java appz
[02:08] <mustard5> init_bud, alternatively you can hit alt+f2 and type in pure-ftpd
[02:08] <Kyral> Java...ick lol
[02:08] <Ep|phany> is there any other web browsers other then firefox like opera?
[02:08] <Kyral> Ep|phany: Epiphany :D
[02:08] <_SvaMpen_> Kyral school project
[02:08] <_SvaMpen_> :D
[02:08] <jordi_> hola!
[02:08] <Ep|phany> really?
[02:09] <Kyral> ubotu tell _SvaMpen_ about SunJava
[02:09] <MarcN> Ep|phany: yeah, opera is available on linux.  also see konqueror
[02:09] <mustard5> init_bud, if you look at how the menu editor works you should be able to see how to create a new entry for pure-ftpd...although there may be an entry already
[02:09] <Nikyo> hola, como esta
[02:09] <_SvaMpen_> Kyral i have the new update available up and it wount close??
[02:09] <mustard5> init_bud, some apps intalls menu entries and some don't
[02:09] <jordi_> acabo de instalar ubuntu y no se cual es la clave por defecto
[02:09] <jordi_> del root
[02:09] <Ep|phany> how can i get opera?
[02:09] <Kyral> !opera
[02:09] <ubotu> Opera isn't in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and get then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[02:09] <Ep|phany> its not in synaptic
[02:09] <_jason> !es
[02:09] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:09] <Kyral> Ep|phany: sudo apt-get install epiphany-browser
[02:10] <Razor-X> Kyral: don't do that
[02:10] <Ep|phany> thanks ill try opera first i heard its really good
[02:10] <Nikyo> jordi sudo
[02:10] <_jason> !info epiphany-browser
[02:10] <Kyral> Razor-X: don't do what?
[02:10] <ubotu> epiphany-browser: (Intuitive GNOME web browser), section gnome, is optional. Version: 1.8.2-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1989 kB, Installed size: 9656 kB
[02:10] <Razor-X> Kyral: don't tell someone to get epiphany
[02:10] <Razor-X> he asked for Opera, give him Opera, 's all :)
[02:10] <_SvaMpen_> how do i get ridde of the "new update available" screen
[02:10] <Kyral> Razor-X: Why not?!
[02:10] <that_weasel> anyone care to explain the network setup to me in Ubuntu.....I have both my wlan and eth setup....every time I start my laptop I have to disable one or the other...to get either working....
[02:10] <_SvaMpen_> it won't shut donw
[02:10] <_SvaMpen_> down
[02:10] <Ep|phany> which is better?
[02:10] <Razor-X> Kyral: because we aren't here to advertise, but to help, unless you overtly say ``I suggest''
[02:10] <Kyral> Ep|phany: like all things in Linux its a matter of opinion
[02:11] <Razor-X> Ep|phany: try it out for yourself, that's the only way you'll know
[02:11] <init_bud> mustard5, what command should i put? "pure-ftpd" dosent run anything
[02:11] <Ep|phany> k
[02:11] <Ep|phany> i cant stand firefox
[02:11] <Kyral> Razor-X: I only told him because it was easier to get Epiphany lol
[02:11] <Razor-X> hurrah! we break from the Mozilla hiatus!
[02:11] <jordi_> Nikyo sudo no funciona
[02:11] <Razor-X> Kyral: oh! my bad :)
[02:11] <mustard5> init_bud, try typing in the first few letters in terminal and then hit TAB key twice...see what commands are available
[02:11] <Kyral> _SvaMpen_: its frozen?
[02:11] <_SvaMpen_> how much memory does fluxbox use?
[02:12] <Razor-X> Ep|phany: you'll be surprised to find out that there are quite a few quality browsers out of the domain of Firefox
[02:12] <_SvaMpen_> Kyral yeas
[02:12] <Kyral> _SvaMpen_: a lot less than GNOME + Metacity
[02:12] <logical_mark> mustard5: Why would it be that the static in my speakers that I am having trouble with goes away completely when I kill gnome-panel?
[02:12] <mustard5> init_bud, I don't have it installed so its hard to tell
[02:12] <Ep|phany> whats the command to insall a .deb is it sudo dpk -i ?
[02:12] <_jason> !deb
[02:12] <ubotu> I guess deb is To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[02:12] <Razor-X> Ep|phany: ``sudo dpkg -i''
[02:12] <init_bud> mustard5, "ftp" produced likea million results.
[02:12] <jordi_> sorry what's the default password of root's user??
[02:12] <Ep|phany> k
[02:12] <_SvaMpen_> Kyral how do i check memory status in terminal?
[02:12] <init_bud> mustard5, i'll look for the help file on the net
[02:12] <jonmasters> dpkg not dpk
[02:12] <Razor-X> jordi_: your default user password
[02:12] <mustard5> init_bud, type 'pure' then hit TAB twice
[02:12] <MarcN> _SvaMpen_: free
[02:13] <Kyral> _SvaMpen_: Restart X with CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[02:13] <mustard5> logical_mark, I'm thinking its because you volume control is an applet in gnome-panel...thats my guess :)
[02:13] <_SvaMpen_> can any1 explain what X is?
[02:13] <Kyral> _SvaMpen_: it would take a bit
[02:13] <Razor-X> _SvaMpen_: X Windows is the GUI implementation on Linux
[02:13] <Kyral> _SvaMpen_: but I have a nifty thread expplaining it :D
[02:13] <Razor-X> _SvaMpen_: or at least, the dominant one
[02:14] <Kyral> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87276
[02:14] <_SvaMpen_> so is GNome an X??
[02:14] <Ep|phany> when i try to install opera in terminal it says error about not having xlib6g  and xlibs
[02:14] <Razor-X> _SvaMpen_: you have different methods of implementing the protocol (different X Servers, like xvesa and X.Org)
[02:14] <Kyral> _SvaMpen_: check out the link I pasted
[02:14] <Razor-X> _SvaMpen_: it's a Window Manager
[02:14] <Kyral> _SvaMpen_: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87276 <--This will explain
[02:14] <logical_mark> mustard5: What do you use for volume control?
[02:14] <_SvaMpen_> oki i know u never belev how i installd ubuntu on my vaio
[02:14] <_SvaMpen_> :D
[02:14] <Kyral> Ep|phany: use Apt to install them
[02:14] <newbies> hi guys
[02:14] <Razor-X> _SvaMpen_: X itself is simply the video modes and the underlying framework
[02:15] <Nikyo> jordi: Si usted desea utilizar la cuenta de la raz en una manera ms tradicional de UNIX, usted puede fijar la contrasea de la raz mecanografiando la raz del passwd del sudo. Esto permitir que usted utilice su o la conexin como raz en la consola.
[02:15] <newbies> anyones here knows what an alternative to dreamweaver?
[02:15] <mustard5> logical_mark, the Volume Applet 2.12.1
[02:15] <Razor-X> newbies: nvu
[02:15] <_SvaMpen_> i know i had some problems with the xorg
[02:15] <newbies> Razor-X, wer can i dowload it?
[02:15] <_SvaMpen_> because my screen is 10"
[02:15] <Kyral> !info nvu
[02:15] <Razor-X> newbies: it should be available in the repos, if not, google is your friend :)
[02:15] <newbies> Razor-X, is it for free>
[02:15] <ubotu> nvu: (Complete Web Authoring System), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1.0-0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 8349 kB, Installed size: 26468 kB
[02:15] <_SvaMpen_> resoulution 1024*480
[02:16] <newbies> Razor-X, oks tenks
[02:16] <Razor-X> newbies: on Linux, most *everything* is free as in beer, and a slight bit less is free as in speech
[02:16] <v00d00> Q: when Ubuntu Live seems to finally get into the desktop, my screen is all jumbled, like the driver is wrong or something.. (sorry such a noob to linux)
[02:16] <Kyral> Razor-X: The GPL is amazing no?
[02:16] <Razor-X> Kyral: astounding
[02:17] <Razor-X> the GPL is the future of software capitalism, IMO
[02:17] <_SvaMpen_> Kyral when i install fluxbox do i have to change X?
[02:17] <Kyral> _SvaMpen_: nope
[02:17] <_SvaMpen_> oki nice
[02:17] <Razor-X> _SvaMpen_: WMs do not interfere with X
[02:17] <Kyral> Razor-X: Not capitalism
[02:17] <ernesto> Can I see with Ubuntu a partition of Windows (I think it is ntfs)?
[02:17] <_SvaMpen_> sounds good
[02:17] <Kyral> ernesto: Yes you can read NTFS
[02:17] <Razor-X> Kyral: I think of it as an extension to current capitalism, the trend of ``get it all, share nothing''
[02:17] <Kyral> ernesto: Writing is more sketchy
[02:18] <mustard5> v00d00, I'm not sure how you would go about fixing display issues on a LiveCD
[02:18] <ernesto> Kyral: what should I do?
[02:18] <Kyral> Razor-X: The GPL is about "Get It All, Share It all"
[02:18] <mustard5> v00d00, I know how to deal with some problems on regular installs...what card are you using?
[02:18] <Razor-X> Kyral: I meant capitalism right now is about ``Get it all, share nothing''
[02:18] <Citydog> ernesto, try modprobe ntfs
[02:18] <Kyral> ernesto: I shall let our helpful bot ubotu help you
[02:18] <v00d00> mustard: I have a Geforce 6600GT..
[02:18] <Kyral> ubotu tell ernesto about ntfs
[02:19] <Kyral> ernesto: ubotu should have just PM'd you with a helpful set of instructions
[02:19] <mustard5> v00d00, hmmm...might be an issue with supporting that card
[02:19] <mustard5> v00d00, nvidia is usually pretty good though
[02:19] <mustard5> v00d00, I take it thats a pretty recent card
[02:19] <v00d00> I tried both I386 version and AMD64 :(
[02:19] <Razor-X> !ubotu
[02:19] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[02:20] <Razor-X> v00d00: what graphics card do you have?
[02:20] <v00d00> mustard: yeah its pretty new...  Razor: nvidia 6600GT
[02:20] <_SvaMpen_> is there any "shell" that uses less memory then openbox?
[02:20] <Razor-X> v00d00: try running a google search on that, unless you want me to
[02:20] <ernesto> ok, thank you
[02:20] <Kyral> _SvaMpen_: You mean a plain old console?
[02:20] <Razor-X> _SvaMpen_: quite a few
[02:20] <sexcopter8001m> v00d00, is the screen resolution really low? like, 640x480...?
[02:20] <Razor-X> _SvaMpen_: but, at that point, you lose features most users are loathe to use
[02:20] <_SvaMpen_> yea but i want still be able to use firefox
[02:20] <alxjvr> hello, what devt tools (gcc, make, etc.) do i need to install so i can compile/install from source certain apps/services like apache2, mysql, etc?
[02:21] <Razor-X> _SvaMpen_: my own WM has a filesize smaller than 1 MB
[02:21] <v00d00> Razor: I can try searching, thanks though Sexcopter: I can't tell the res, it's totally jumbled.. like weird vertical lines
[02:21] <Kyral> _SvaMpen_: I get quite nice performance out of Fluxbox
[02:21] <Kyral> alxjvr: just use Synaptic/Apt to install them
[02:21] <mustard5> alxjvr, install build-essential
[02:21] <_SvaMpen_> Razor-X can u watch movies?
[02:21] <Razor-X> v00d00: by the way, are you aware of tab-complete?
[02:21] <Kyral> alxjvr: They will take care of any needed proggys
[02:21] <alxjvr> mustard5: that_weasel
[02:21] <Razor-X> _SvaMpen_: of course, I can read manga, watch movies/anime, and browse the net graphically
[02:21] <alxjvr> oops
[02:21] <alxjvr> mustard5: thanks
[02:21] <mustard5> alxjvr, most of that stuff is in the repositories as has been mentioned
[02:21] <v00d00> Razor: sorry, i'm a total noob to Linux..
[02:21] <sexcopter8001m> v00d00, hmmm... well if you can find a way to load the vesa driver, i would recommend trying that as a temp fix
[02:22] <Razor-X> v00d00: it's not just a Linux thing, instead of typing out my name fully, type the first few letters of my name and hit TAB
[02:22] <_SvaMpen_> is it easy to change the WM???
[02:22] <sexcopter8001m> v00d00, strange though, i have a 6600 (not sure if it's GT) and have had *no* troubles at all
[02:22] <mustard5> alxjvr, it would be easier to install via apt-get or synaptic
[02:22] <Razor-X> _SvaMpen_: pretty straightforward
[02:22] <dip> anyone have experiece with cyberpowerpc.com or ibuypower.com ?? which would you buy from ?
[02:22] <newbies> can i install winscp on my ubuntu?
[02:22] <that_weasel> alxjvr: mustard5
[02:22] <Razor-X> newbies: WinSCP is a Windows only app
[02:22] <mustard5> that_weasel, k
[02:22] <_SvaMpen_> sounds good, ill be back, have to go to sleep now
[02:22] <that_weasel> :?
[02:22] <Ep|phany> when i try to install opera in terminal it says error about not having xlib6g  and xlibs
[02:22] <Kyral> newbies: you have scp built in
[02:22] <_SvaMpen_> thank you and c u
[02:23] <v00d00> total bummer.. like might there be a command I can type in shell prior to the desktop coming up that might load in some kind of safe(r) mode?
[02:23] <newbies> Razor-X, does it has the same feartures with winscp?
[02:23] <that_weasel> mustard5: "alxjvr mustard5: that_weasel"
[02:23] <v00d00> I just hit enter (default) right now
[02:23] <mustard5> that_weasel, I have no idea
[02:23] <mustard5> that_weasel, a typo perhaps
[02:23] <that_weasel> perhaps
[02:23] <Razor-X> newbies: there should be some graphical SCP client for Linux, I'm not all that familiar with it, though
[02:23] <Kyral> Ep|phany: install them with Synaptic/Apt
[02:23] <newbies> Razor-X, oic
[02:23] <alxjvr> mustard5, that_weasel : typo, indeed, pressed the tab, sorry for that
[02:23] <Ep|phany> i cant find em in synpatic
[02:23] <that_weasel> or maybe it was carefully crafted plan...
[02:24] <newbies> Razor-X, tenks anywayss
[02:24] <that_weasel> :D
[02:24] <mustard5> that_weasel, hehe
[02:24] <sexcopter8001m> v00d00, on a normal installation, there's a file /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and in there you tell X what driver to use. If you can edit that file to use vesa, then ctrl+alt+backspace restarts X and hey presto it works. but that's on a proper installation, how you'd do that with Live is beyond me
[02:24] <frogzoo> man #ubuntu needs a 2nd room
[02:24] <newbies> anyone knows whats the graphical client for Linux?
[02:24] <Razor-X> newbies: but for the command-line version, simply type in ``scp'' or ``sftp'' into a console, and it'll work great
[02:24] <mustard5> alxjvr, have you tried installing them via apt-get or synaptic yet?
[02:24] <Razor-X> newbies: try a google search :)
[02:24] <Kyral> newbies: GFTP might work
[02:25] <newbies> Razor-X, ehehe okz...
[02:25] <Kyral> newbies: But I'm not sure
[02:25] <newbies> Kyral, tenks
[02:25] <frogzoo> newbies: from windows? Hummingbird or any other x server
[02:25] <Razor-X> sexcopter8001m: you can change it, but at that point, it becomes more effecient to install Linux :P
[02:25] <Ep|phany> how do i aptget xlib6g?
[02:25] <Kyral> !info xlib
[02:25] <sexcopter8001m> Razor-X, indeed :p
[02:25] <Kyral> Ep|phany: lemme search for a second
[02:25] <Ep|phany> k
[02:25] <newbies> frogzoo, that i can install on my ubuntu
[02:25] <frogzoo> Ep|phany: it's 'apt-get install xxx'
[02:25] <Razor-X> !apt
[02:25] <ubotu> methinks apt is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[02:25] <v00d00> Appreciate the help guys! I will try reading some google search results and seeing about updating my drivers.. hope it works, I'm really excited about Linux, especially Ubuntu!
[02:26] <lightbright> anyone know how to edit a VOB?  or convert it to AVI?
[02:26] <Kyral> Ep|phany: try install xlibs
[02:26] <mustard5> v00d00, hang out in here and you will pick up lots of tips I am sure
[02:26] <frogzoo> newbies: but client for what? just xterm? from gnome, everything's through the gui
[02:26] <v00d00> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=97459
[02:26] <v00d00> ^ seems he has the same problem
[02:26] <Razor-X> v00d00: a friend of mine had a relatively new card that refused to work with his stock Linux X drivers, so we simply hopped on to the internet via lynx, got him the driver, and he had X :P
[02:26] <sexcopter8001m> v00d00, no probs, also try www.ubuntuforums.org, that can be a very useful resource
[02:26] <init_bud> mustard5, ok i'm back... lol. i looked on the website and it said to start a server type "pure-ftpd &" so i did. and it came back and said [1]  XXXX (where X =number) i'm guessing that is the portnumber that my server isrunning on. but how in the heck am i supposed to configure the server? options like the path and user accounts, etc... ? has anyone ever done this before?
[02:26] <Razor-X> sexcopter8001m: errr.. for the time being, I would suggest you not refer to that place
[02:27] <newbies> frogzoo, just like wincsp?
[02:27] <sexcopter8001m> Razor-X, oh, why?
[02:27] <Razor-X> sexcopter8001m: there's a lot of politics going on
[02:27] <Technobabble> sexcopter... lol
[02:27] <mustard5> init_bud, I use gftp myself..it has a gui :)
[02:27] <Razor-X> blah, ``sftp'' is enough for me, it works fine
[02:27] <Razor-X> cd blah, rm blah, put blah, exit
[02:27] <Razor-X> :)
[02:28] <mustard5> init_bud, you could probably try typing man pure-ftpd and see if you get a manual
[02:28] <Kyral> Razor-X: same here, but my IPTables are too good and block the return stream lol
[02:28] <Razor-X> Kyral: :P
[02:29] <Razor-X> Kyral: when I finish Japanese self-study (which I doubt will be for a while), I'm going to sit down with the IPTables manual
[02:29] <Razor-X> Kyral: it's a 1000 page behemoth of a manual, and I've scanned enough to know it'll get me from advanced to expert level in Linux networking :P
[02:29] <init_bud> mustard5, is gftp a server app?
[02:29] <mustard5> init_bud, umm a client app soz
[02:29] <sexcopter8001m> Razor-X, wtf, politics?? can you explain or is it complicated?
[02:30] <frogzoo> Razor-X linkie for iptables manual pls?
[02:30] <Razor-X> sexcopter8001m: I can in offtopic
[02:30] <Kyral> sexcopter8001m: its something better NOT discussed in public
[02:30] <sexcopter8001m> hmm, ok
[02:30] <Razor-X> yeah, exactly what Kyral said
[02:31] <Razor-X> frogzoo: hmmm... wow, a short google search is turning up nothing
[02:31] <Razor-X> frogzoo: if I can't find the link, I'll put up a postscript file of it, mmkay?
[02:31] <mustard5> init_bud, I just found 'pureadmin' a gtk frontend for pure-ftpd in the repos
[02:31] <mustard5> init_bud, try installing pureadmin and see if it helps
[02:32] <Razor-X> found it
[02:32] <ice9> can someone help me with installing cdemu ?
[02:32] <Razor-X> frogzoo: http://iptables-tutorial.frozentux.net/iptables-tutorial.html
[02:32] <Kyral> Razor-X: I just used the Wiki lol
[02:33] <billy> hello
[02:33] <Razor-X> ICE9: why not simply convert the BIN/CUE into an ISO, and mount it from there?
[02:33] <Razor-X> Kyral: :P
[02:33] <NanoBCN28> anyone here knows about php? didn't get any luck in the ##php
[02:33] <ICE9> it is an iso
[02:33] <Razor-X> NanoBCN28: it may be #php, by the way
[02:33] <intelikey> tcdemux ?
[02:33] <ICE9> I need tio open the iso for theh files
[02:33] <Razor-X> NanoBCN28: I don't know, just suggesting
[02:34] <ICE9> inside
[02:34] <Kyral> NanoBCN28: lol if the people in #php can't help you...
[02:34] <intelikey> not the same thing is it ?
[02:34] <ICE9> know what I mean
[02:34] <Hericus> If anyone has yahoo add me up.. "her1cus"
[02:34] <ICE9> I can I open up that iso ?>
[02:34] <Razor-X> ICE9: you want to mount the ISO then?
[02:34] <NanoBCN28> Yes, no luck at all... :)
[02:34] <ICE9> just mount regular ?
[02:34] <frogzoo> Razor-X much thanks :)
[02:34] <Kyral> NanoBCN28: Then I don't think I can lol
[02:34] <leather_n_luv> lightbright: i'm back, forgot that i don't have win drivers for modem...
[02:35] <NanoBCN28> Well, my question was about php-gettext
[02:35] <Razor-X> ICE9: mount -o loop -t iso9660 foo.iso /mnt/mountpoint
[02:35] <Razor-X> where ``foo.iso'' is the name of the ISO file, and /mnt/mountpoint is the location of an already existing mount point
[02:35] <Razor-X> ICE9: oh, and prepend a ``sudo''
[02:35] <frogzoo> loop backs are the shiz
[02:35] <ICE9> k thx
[02:36] <Razor-X> aint that the truth :P
[02:36] <Razor-X> cloop is even coler, though
[02:36] <nadia007> anyone know were I can find odbc drivers for msql 2000?
[02:36] <Razor-X> *cooler
[02:36] <leather_n_luv> can someone help me with a modem problem?
[02:36] <Razor-X> I take my leave now
[02:36] <intelikey> !find odbc
[02:36] <nadia007> !find odbc
[02:37] <nadia007> nothing there.
[02:37] <jcole> nadia007: freetds
[02:37] <nadia007> thanks jcole...
[02:37] <korhalf> any reason why i cant access my apache server
[02:37] <korhalf> http://localhost works
[02:37] <Kyral> nadia007: libmyodbc
[02:37] <korhalf> but when i try to connect to my ip, it times out.
[02:38] <mustard5> leather_n_luv, what is the issue?
[02:38] <SEJeff> korhalf: That has to do with the Listen directive in your apache configuration file
[02:39] <frogzoo> korhalf: firewall?
[02:39] <SEJeff> no
[02:39] <korhalf> no firewall
[02:39] <korhalf> the port is forwarded
[02:39] <korhalf> SEJeff, explain
[02:39] <ICE9> its has to be mnt/mountpoint ?
[02:39] <SEJeff> frogzoo: If he can access it via hostname and not via ip, it is his apache configuration
[02:39] <SEJeff> korhalf: Listen localhost
[02:39] <Trilom> Wow
[02:39] <ICE9> or no
[02:39] <Trilom> Ok people
[02:39] <Trilom> IVe been intrested in puting ubuntu on my PC
[02:39] <Trilom> could someone help me
[02:39] <Trilom> and let me know how
[02:40] <Trilom> and why
[02:40] <SEJeff> korhalf: In your apache configuraiton file will only allow people to access the server if it is from http://localhost
[02:40] <Trilom> just overall help me with it please?
[02:40] <Plazma> Oh to those who may be interested, i got MythTV working beautifuly on Ubuntu..
[02:40] <Trilom> just pm me please
[02:40] <mustard5> Trilom, what type of system have you got?
[02:40] <frogzoo> SEJeff: hmm... access to 127.0.0.1 isn't the same as x.x.x.x
[02:40] <mindlace> high ... I've spent a bunch of time trying to move an ubuntu install from a sata drive to a raid array unrecognized by 2.6.12... it would really make my life much easier if there was a straightforward way for me to build a new install .iso with a 2.6.13+ kernel
[02:40] <SEJeff> frogzoo: But he can access it via localhost
[02:40] <intelikey> ICE9 any dir can be a mount point.   but any files in the dir will be unreachable while an file system is mounted on the dir.
[02:40] <frogzoo> SEJeff: localhost = 127.0.0.1
[02:41] <SEJeff> frogzoo: Thanks for the obvious :)
[02:41] <mindlace> I assume someone builds install .iso's to begin with, so there must be some sort of process involved
[02:41] <Trilom> Mustard05: 98SE
[02:41] <korhalf> k got it working
[02:41] <Razor-X> mindlace: ah, it's complicated
[02:41] <SEJeff> korhalf: What did you have to do?
[02:41] <mustard5> Trilom, what graphics card?
[02:41] <korhalf> i nmapped myself and checked the config
[02:42] <Trilom> mustard5: ATI rage pro 4mb
[02:42] <SEJeff> korhalf: Did you have to change the config?
[02:42] <korhalf> i also made sure my host had dynamic ip on
[02:42] <korhalf> yes
[02:42] <Razor-X> errr *marches back to work*
[02:42] <SEJeff> korhalf: What did you change to make it work?
[02:42] <mustard5> Trilom, hmm ok...and sound card?
[02:42] <korhalf> the listening port.
[02:42] <Trilom> mustard5: not sure, lemme check
[02:42] <ICE9> hey can I pm someone what error I get ?
[02:42] <frogzoo> ice9 just pastebin
[02:43] <korhalf> Listen 80
[02:43] <leather_n_luv> mustard5: the hcl asys that it works, but i can't get it to, it is not autodetected, i don't have win drivers
[02:43] <mustard5> Trilom, you might have issues with ATI card I am not sure..best to ask someone who uses ATI..I use nvidia myself
[02:43] <mindlace> Razor-x: ok, i'll just keep working on the "move distro to array" approach
[02:43] <mustard5> leather_n_luv, do you know what type of modem it is?
[02:43] <SEJeff> korhalf: You can also do Listen hostname:80
[02:44] <SEJeff> korhalf: and have multiple Listen directives if you want
[02:44] <korhalf> yeh
[02:44] <mustard5> leather_n_luv, brand name that is
[02:44] <Trilom> mustard5: I have an Nvidia card
[02:44] <frogzoo> Trilom: that cards pretty old - stock drivers might not work - consider compiling your own
[02:44] <Razor-X> mindlace: it probably doesen't need as much guesswork, though, it's like the advantage of using Gaussian-Jordan Elimination on large matricies to plain Gaussian Elimination... but I digress :P
[02:44] <Trilom> Mustard5: ive been complictating putting it in, but the only problem is this computer has a pent 2 (350 mghtz) and liek everything else is much better
[02:44] <Silvester_> hi
[02:45] <mustard5> Trilom, k..well you might have more luck with nvidia card for graphics
[02:45] <SEJeff> korhalf: glad you got it working
[02:45] <Trilom> mustard5: could we talk in PM please?
[02:45] <lightbright> anyone know how to edit a VOB?
[02:45] <mindlace> I suspect the work would be about equivalent, given I have to make a new initrd etc. etc.
[02:45] <mustard5> Trilom, hang on a tick...my ISP is about to disconnect me..I'll be back in a minute
[02:45] <SEJeff> mustard5: FYI. xorg 7.0 and upcoming x will have pretty good support for EXA on ati's 9200 video card series
[02:45] <SEJeff> mustard5: for pretty eyecandy
[02:45] <mustard5> SEJeff, k :)
[02:46] <lightbright> mustard5: no hot dog pls
[02:46] <leather_n_luv> mustard5: (sorry, eating nachos. lol) 82801AA 810 Chipset AC'97 PCI Modem (vendor:8086 device:2416)
[02:46] <ICE9> ok now that I have it mounted
[02:46] <Razor-X> SEJeff: wasn't nVidia making the one graphics card that supports lightning quick ASCII displays?
[02:46] <ICE9> how do I open the iso
[02:46] <lightbright> leather_n_luv: you back?  you told me you running back to MS windows :P
[02:46] <SEJeff> Razor-X: I don't know
[02:46] <tiwi> hi, any one can help, how to connect to windows network\
[02:47] <Razor-X> SEJeff: ah well, us nethackers would have it good then :P
[02:47] <lightbright> tiwi: Samba?
[02:47] <SEJeff> Razor-X: Irsii is your friend
[02:47] <korhalf> SEJeff, im having an issue getting windows to see my linux samba server
[02:47] <intelikey> ICE9 you don't open it.  if it is mounted you just work in the mount point
[02:47] <korhalf> but i guess thats another issue.
[02:47] <Razor-X> SEJeff: I use erc, actually :P
[02:47] <leather_n_luv> lightbright: lol, no just checking for port but haven't run win for so long, forgot i don't have drivers
[02:47] <puff> Evening.
[02:47] <SEJeff> Razor-X: you should use irsii :)
[02:47] <puff> Razor-X: Me too.
[02:48] <intelikey> mount this.iso /blah -o loop ; ls /blah
[02:48] <frogzoo> ICE9: please pay attention - mount -o loop -t iso9660 foo.iso /mnt/mountpoint
[02:48] <Razor-X> SEJeff: hey, erc comes with all the awesomeness of emacs
[02:48] <lightbright> leather_n_luv: look in back
[02:48] <mustard5> Trilom, ok PM me now
[02:48] <lightbright> leather_n_luv: is your modem on comm port 2?
[02:48] <perdidopunk> can anybody here help me with installing gcc in ubuntu from the terminal ?
[02:48] <Razor-X> SEJeff: plus, I can use mule's TeX input method to say stuff like ``pwnd''
[02:48] <|ed|> ok another question
[02:48] <frogzoo> perdidopunk: sudo dpkg -i build-essentials
[02:48] <|ed|> 'the audio is'nt working on my sons i book
[02:49] <Trilom> mustard5: bleh have to register one second
[02:49] <leather_n_luv> lightbright: i have 2 serial, so wouldn't that make it com 3
[02:49] <perdidopunk> does that involve any kind of downloading ?
[02:49] <perdidopunk> because ubuntu can't see my net card right now...
[02:49] <|ed|> any ideas on why
[02:49] <mustard5> Trilom, k
[02:49] <leather_n_luv> mustard5: (sorry, eating nachos. lol) 82801AA 810 Chipset AC'97 PCI Modem (vendor:8086 device:2416)
[02:49] <frogzoo> perdidopunk: not sure, build-essentials might be on the install cd
[02:49] <perdidopunk> hmm
[02:49] <perdidopunk> well
[02:49] <ICE9> getting an error
[02:49] <puff> Razor-X: Do you have emacs cut & paste integration?
[02:49] <mustard5> leather_n_luv, hmmm k
[02:49] <lightbright> leather_n_luv: sorry eating nachos.
[02:49] <leather_n_luv> lightbright: i have a serial port on my nic
[02:50] <ICE9> when trying to mount the iso that way
[02:50] <perdidopunk> i downloaded gcc from the gcc site
[02:50] <intelikey> frogzoo i have a question for ya, does /mnt exist by default on breezy ?
[02:50] <mustard5> perdidopunk, there is no 's' on the end
[02:50] <lightbright> leather_n_luv: you will have to get someone to your place
[02:50] <SEJeff> intelikey: yes
[02:50] <perdidopunk> could i use a live cd to build it ?
[02:50] <frogzoo> ICE9: prepend 'sudo' & make sure the mount point exists
[02:50] <mustard5> perdidopunk, you don't need to download from the site
[02:50] [theCore(n=theCore@Toronto-HSE-ppp3715463.sympatico.ca)]  help
[02:50] <intelikey> hmm it doesn't on hoary
[02:50] <|ed|> anyone?
[02:50] <perdidopunk> thanks
[02:50] <tiwi> lightbright : i use the samba but when connect to server windows, require the password, and i have try. still cannot
[02:50] [theCore(n=theCore@Toronto-HSE-ppp3715463.sympatico.ca)]  version
[02:50] <SEJeff> intelikey: It is in the FHS. I think it did in hoary too
[02:51] <ICE9> can I mount it to dev/loop
[02:51] <lightbright> tiwi: all the best
[02:51] <perdidopunk> i don't suppose anybody here has an ati card of the new r5xx architecture, do they?
[02:51] <Razor-X> puff: I prefer not to, only because I handle a lot of stuff that I'ld rather keep in the kill-ring rather than let the clipboard have at it, instead, I either use screen's scrollback (which is ew) or I have to *groan* use the mouse to select it, copy to primary buffer, and then I use a ratpoison bind of C-t C-c that calls a script that places it in the clipboard :P
[02:51] <frogzoo> ICE9: no, don't put it there - try 'sudo mkdir /mnt/loop'
[02:51] <mustard5> leather_n_luv, I'm not sure about that modem...I take it you have visited the linmodem website for clues?
[02:52] <frogzoo> then 'sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 foo.iso /mnt/loop'
[02:52] <tiwi> this is my 1st time using UBUNTU. I still have to work hard
[02:52] <intelikey> easy way 'mkdir temp ;sudo mount ..... temp '
[02:52] <Kyral> tiwi: we all had to :D
[02:52] <tiffany> hello?
[02:52] <|ed|> ok someone i need some here hehe
[02:52] <tiffany> what exactly is this ?
[02:52] <leather_n_luv> yup, got my compatibility info from linuxquestions.org
[02:52] <Kyral> tiwi: then you will discover an insane amount of abilities. And the power of the GPL
[02:52] <Kyral> !ubuntu
[02:52] <ubotu> from memory, ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards
[02:52] <Trilom> mustard, ok pm sent see if you got it
[02:52] <Razor-X> tiffany: read the topic :P
[02:52] <qt2> Flash works fine in firefox via sudo, but not if i run it as a normal user, anyone have any clue what could be wrong?
[02:53] <tiwi> sory what is GPL
[02:53] <tiffany> alrighty then..i believe i'll jus leave now.byee
[02:53] <Razor-X> !gpl
[02:53] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, Razor-X
[02:53] <Kyral> !gpl
[02:53] <Razor-X> wew
[02:53] <Razor-X> *wow
[02:53] <frogzoo> gpl = GNU Public Licence
[02:53] <intelikey> tiwi http://gnu.org
[02:53] <Razor-X> tiwi: http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html
[02:54] <Razor-X> that is the GPL, in its entirety
[02:54] <mustard5> leather_n_luv, have you tried looking for some drivers online?
[02:54] <Kyral> tiwi: In a word, the GPL allows you to make software and do whatever you want with it, as long as you grant the same permissions to everyone else
[02:54] <Razor-X> Kyral: that's a lot of words :P
[02:54] <leather_n_luv> mustard5: where?
[02:54] <Kyral> Razor-X: its shorter than reading the entire thign :P
[02:54] <tiwi> oh , thk
[02:55] <perdidopunk> does 5.04 compile the kernel to support pci express by default ?
[02:55] <leather_n_luv> mustard5: i can't find windows drivers
[02:55] <Razor-X> Kyral: :P
[02:55] <mustard5> leather_n_luv, there are a number of sites..I'd have to google one up
[02:55] <frogzoo> Most importantly, GPL means the SOURCE CODE is freely available & free to be redistributed
[02:55] <Kyral> perdidopunk: I'm not sure
[02:55] <ICE9> sudo mount -o loop -t dev-qua4.iso /mnt/quake
[02:55] <ICE9> this is what I have
[02:55] <Kyral> perdidopunk: why not use 5.10 Breezy?
[02:55] <Razor-X> if you can, I suggest you read the GPL yourself, interpretations almost always tend to contain human bias :)
[02:56] <perdidopunk> because 5.04 is what i could find on the network at my school
[02:56] <ICE9> I made a adir called quake in /mnt.quake
[02:56] <leather_n_luv> mustard5: please do, 'cause i must not know what to look for
[02:56] <perdidopunk> we have a 7 day bandwidth usage limit on outside internet use
[02:56] <ICE9> just not mounting
[02:56] <Kyral> Razor-X: I wanna get the T-Shirt with the GPL on it lol
[02:56] <perdidopunk> so i didn't feel like downloading a whole iso
[02:56] <Razor-X> Kyral: hahahaha!
[02:56] <SEJeff> And I thought I was a nerd
[02:56] <frogzoo> ICE9: does the mount point exist? /mnt/loop or whatever -  mount -o loop -t iso9660 foo.iso /mnt/loop
[02:56] <calc> anyone know of a good doc to read on how to setup multiple screens in xorg (xinerama?)
[02:56] <leather_n_luv> mustard5: as i said, i can't even find windows drivers for the thing
[02:56] <Kyral> perdidopunk: And I thought that MY school sucked when it came to bandwidth
[02:56] <ICE9> yes
[02:56] <Razor-X> SEJeff: I hang up derivatives on my jacket and walk to school
[02:56] <ICE9> I have a dir inside of /mnt called quake
[02:56] <perdidopunk> we just have a lot of people here, haha
[02:56] <perdidopunk> it's 1.5GB per 7 day period
[02:57] <Razor-X> SEJeff: and I'm 15, so there's your definition of weirdness today :P
[02:57] <frogzoo> ICE9: sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 foo.iso /mnt/quake
[02:57] <SEJeff> Razor-X: I threw a livecd at a guy today accross the room
[02:57] <perdidopunk> argh
[02:57] <SEJeff> Razor-X: At work!
[02:57] <perdidopunk> dpkg -i build-essential doesn't work
[02:57] <Kyral> perdidopunk: sudo it
[02:57] <perdidopunk> neither does dpkg -i build-essential
[02:57] <mustard5> leather_n_luv, have you tried a site like this? http://www.driverguide.com/
[02:57] <perdidopunk> *essentials
[02:57] <intelikey> -t is superflutious
[02:57] <leather_n_luv> mustard5: yup
[02:58] <frogzoo> ICE9: where is the iso? I hope you're not using 'foo.iso' as your path - replace with the real path to the iso
[02:58] <SEJeff> perdidopunk: it is a metapackage. Use apt-get to install the dependencies
[02:58] <Kyral> perdidopunk: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:58] <perdidopunk> uhhhhh
[02:58] <ICE9> of course not
[02:58] <perdidopunk> apt-get gets stuff from the internet, correct ?
[02:58] <Kyral> perdidopunk: correct
[02:58] <perdidopunk> <- no network connectivity at the moment
[02:58] <frogzoo> perdidopunk: not if it on the CD, & the CD repo is enabled
[02:58] <Razor-X> SEJeff: hah, awesome. I got pissed off at someone once, and threw a CD in a really tight spiral, it missed by a bit and shattered into pieces on the walll
[02:58] <perdidopunk> with that computer, anyway
[02:58] <leather_n_luv> mustard5: been a member for years, i fix windows part time from my home, i am a win guru (minus the networking)
[02:58] <mustard5> leather_n_luv, hmm k..well I am out of ideas unfortunately
[02:58] <Razor-X> SEJeff: but that was WinXP Professional, I think
[02:59] <frogzoo> perdidopunk: my bad 'build-essential' not 'build-essentials'
[02:59] <perdidopunk> alright, it's gonna look at the drive
[02:59] <perdidopunk> erm
[02:59] <perdidopunk> disc
[02:59] <korhalf> hey theres me
[02:59] <korhalf> eternalist,
[02:59] <vladuz976> how can i check diskspace used in bash?
[02:59] <perdidopunk> sure was a lot easier to install fedora, haha
[02:59] <Kyral> vladuz976: df -h
[02:59] <perdidopunk> ummm
[03:00] <perdidopunk> that was fast
[03:00] <perdidopunk> did it build anything ?
[03:00] <leather_n_luv> mustard5: thanks for your time.
[03:00] <mindlace> I need busybox to install a new initrd, anyone know why apt-get install busybox wants to remove my kernel?
[03:00] <intelikey> perdidopunk man du
[03:00] <Kyral> perdidopunk: Build-Essential?
[03:00] <perdidopunk> i did apt-get install build-essential
[03:00] <intelikey> sorry perdidopunk  i meant vladuz976
[03:00] <Kyral> mindlace: checkout wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelHowto
[03:00] <vladuz976> Kyral: thanks
[03:00] <Kyral> perdidopunk: did you sudo it
[03:01] <perdidopunk> i'm logged in as root
[03:01] <deryk> Could someone help me out with viewing a Quicktime stream in Firefox? I just tried watching the X3 trailer, but things aren't working.
[03:01] <leather_n_luv> vladuz976: df
[03:01] <Kyral> perdidopunk: then nm lol
[03:01] <perdidopunk> wow
[03:01] <deryk> I can watch a quicktime mov file through mplayer, but Firefox always launches Totem
[03:01] <perdidopunk> apparently it did build it
[03:01] <perdidopunk> uhhh
[03:01] <perdidopunk> i guess they were binaries already...
[03:01] <perdidopunk> ok
[03:01] <Kyral> perdidopunk: no sourcecode. Apt uses Binaries :D
[03:01] <perdidopunk> now to configure my kernel...
[03:01] <_jason> ubotu, tell deryk about replacetotem
[03:01] <Kyral> perdidopunk: I assume you know how to do that?
[03:01] <SEJeff> perdidopunk: Unless you do sudo apt-get source packagename
[03:02] <perdidopunk> argh
[03:02] <perdidopunk> unable to find the Ncurses libraries :-(
[03:02] <Kyral> perdidopunk: you need the Kernel source
[03:02] <ICE9> I should be in the iso dir right
[03:02] <ICE9> when mounting
[03:02] <perdidopunk> i have the kernel source
[03:02] <perdidopunk> i'm trying to do make menuconfig
[03:02] <|ed|> ok so ubuntu sees the audio card as powertubler or what ever but i cant get any audio and i run amork and it tells me that it does'nt have mp3 support any ideas anyone?
[03:02] <mindlace> Kyral: thank you for the suggestion; I have read that document, and it doesn't help me with my case (making grub/initrd work on a LVM root partition)
[03:02] <perdidopunk> well at least i got past not having gcc...
[03:03] <adiabatty> I'm about to install Ubuntu on a machine that'll have 512 MB of RAM assuming I have only one bad stick of RAM; is that low enough to make GNOME choke and sputter, or will I be okay with Nautilus and friends?
[03:03] <Kyral> perdidopunk: install libncurses4
[03:03] <frogzoo> ICE9: it doesnt matter as long as the path is correct 'sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 PATH_TO_ISO /mnt/quake'
[03:03] <funktown> adiabatty > my 512 MB runs gnome just fine
[03:03] <deryk> thanks _jason!
[03:03] <perdidopunk> don't have it
[03:03] <ICE9> I'm going to try it that way
[03:03] <ICE9> something just don't jive here
[03:03] <_jason> deryk, yw
[03:03] <frogzoo> funkyHat: 512M? I should hope so :)
[03:03] <Kyral> mindlace: I don't know anything about LVM
[03:03] <perdidopunk> libncurses4 isn't on the ubuntu cd i take it ?
[03:03] <adiabatty> funktown, frogzoo: phew
[03:04] <Kyral> perdidopunk: apt-cache search ncurses
[03:04] <funkyHat> frogzoo, i'm not funktown ;)
[03:04] <frogzoo> ICE9: are you sure the file you have IS an iso? should be around 600MB, try 'file PATH_TO_ISO'
[03:04] <qt2> okay, now that i've found the solution to my issue.
[03:04] <qt2> i suggest someone modify the restrictedformats wiki.
[03:04] <perdidopunk> says its already installed
[03:04] <perdidopunk> but make menuconfig still won't work
[03:04] <mindlace> maybe I should just punt and repartition so that root is not in LVM
[03:05] <psycode> I can't use remote desktop correctly, its always giving me "authentication problems". i used xpasswd to set the password on the server side
[03:05] <Kyral> mindlace: I think that may be wise
[03:05] <Kyral> mindlace: I've used LVM Partitions before
[03:05] <Kyral> mindlace: but not as the rootFS
[03:05] <perdidopunk> does it need to be in my path ?
[03:05] <frogzoo> mindlace: do you have a separate, non LVM /boot fs?
[03:06] <mindlace> frogzoo: yes
[03:06] <Kyral> perdidopunk: I tink its libncurses-dev
[03:06] <Kyral> qt2: Yes?
[03:07] <perdidopunk> hmmm
[03:07] <mindlace> all the instructions I can find suggest I need a special initrd image so that I can do root=/dev/<myvg>/root
[03:07] <perdidopunk> apt-cache search doesn't show ncurses-devel as being there...
[03:07] <Kyral> perdidopunk: libncurses-dev
[03:07] <perdidopunk> nor that
[03:07] <mindlace> lvm2root=/dev/<mpg>/root , that is
[03:07] <funktown> perdidopunk > try 'libncurses5-dev'
[03:07] <calc> mindlace: root on lvm works fine, you just need /boot not on lvm afaik
[03:08] <cope_> hey just a question, whats the live-powerpc version of ubuntu? i downloaded it, but is it a live cd? I don't want to burn it if it is
[03:08] <perdidopunk> nope
[03:08] <perdidopunk> i guess i'll download it
[03:08] <Kyral> cope_: the LiveCD is a LiveCD lol
[03:08] <Kyral> cope_: the install cds are marked as such
[03:08] <mindlace> like this article is telling me to remake the initrd image: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/293#comment_10
[03:08] <cope_> whats the difference between powerpc and i386"
[03:08] <cope_> ?
[03:08] <Kyral> mindlace: if you have a non-LVM partition for /boot
[03:08] <ICE9> mount: unknown filesystem type 'dev-qua4.iso'
[03:08] <ICE9> hmm now what
[03:09] <Kyral> cope_: PowerPC is for Macs :P
[03:09] <cope_> shit
[03:09] <cope_> lol
[03:09] <cope_> i downloaded the wrong one :)
[03:09] <intelikey> cope $49.95
[03:10] <ICE9> wrong file system
[03:10] <ICE9> hmm
[03:10] <mindlace> Kyral: I do, so "kernel /boot/somekernel root=/dev/<myvg>/root ro quiet splash" should just work?
[03:10] <mindlace> somehow I don't think it will
[03:10] <Kyral> mindlace: the installer will config it right
[03:10] <mindlace> Kyral: the installer can't see the hardware RAID array
[03:11] <mindlace> which is why I'm in this situation in the first place
[03:11] <perdidopunk> how do i install this .deb ?
[03:11] <cope_> is there a big difference between horay and badger?
[03:11] <frogzoo> perdidopunk: dpkg -i x.deb
[03:11] <perdidopunk> thanks
[03:11] <funktown> use sudo, though
[03:11] <frogzoo> yar
[03:11] <Kyral> cope_: Hoary (5.04) is the predecessor to Breezy(5.10)
[03:11] <slide> Is there a way to install vmware5 using the packages?
[03:11] <intelikey> perdidopunk apt-get install     if at all possable
[03:11] <Kyral> cope_: Breezy is current
[03:11] <perdidopunk> no network
[03:11] <Kyral> intelikey: he has no net
[03:11] <Technobabble> cope, horay < badger == mushroom == snake
[03:12] <Kyral> Technobabble: lol
[03:12] <Technobabble> it's true...
[03:12] <cope_> lol
[03:12] <calc> mindlace: i use lvm on pretty much all the servers i manage at my job
[03:12] <cope_> so when i install a mushroom, will i start seeing things?
[03:12] <shanonx> hi everyone...
[03:12] <Technobabble> maybe
[03:12] <cope_> will my hand look big?
[03:12] <Kyral> No I'm remembering Matt and someone else doing the dance at UBuntuLove lol
[03:13] <shanonx> anyone here that can help me with some very basic linux commands... <-- NOOB!
[03:13] <Kyral> shanonx: gimme a sec to dig up something
[03:13] <ma5terdp> hay im back with a new question people
[03:13] <j1> hey all
[03:13] <mindlace> calc: cool, so you know what's needed for grub to use a LVM device for root?
[03:13] <shanonx> ok Kyral thank ya.
[03:13] <Kyral> shanonx: check this out http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=73885
[03:14] <calc> mindlace: just root=/dev/(foo)/root or whatever you called it
[03:14] <ma5terdp> how do i get permission do a mounted hda undert Ubuntu
[03:14] <j1> anyone have experience with installing nVidia drivers for Linux for their GEforce cards?
[03:14] <ICE9> is there a way to update mount to look for other file sytems ?
[03:14] <ICE9> or no
[03:14] <intelikey> shanonx don't ask to ask, just ask.
[03:14] <funktown> ma5terdp > sudo?
[03:14] <Kyral> j1: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[03:14] <calc> mindlace: at least on debian, i am using debian sarge on the servers at work, ubuntu should be the same though
[03:14] <ma5terdp> i get errors like cannont move file non permision file system
[03:14] <ma5terdp> like this for example
[03:14] <intelikey> ICE9 man mount.    and man fstab
[03:14] <mindlace> calc: oh, cool. If it's that easy I will be a very happy monkey
[03:14] <qt2> Kyral, err, there should be an appendage under the flash sound issues osmwhere that symptoms of the flash sound issues include: flash videos stopping after 1sec of play, firefox freezing when going to another page ater having tried to view a flash video, and the firefox process not correctly ending after having tried to view a flash video.
[03:15] <frogzoo> !tell j1 about nvidia
[03:15] <perdidopunk> anybody here using a radeon x1000 series video card ?
[03:15] <ma5terdp> ok i put this sudo mv 1.1 /media/drive
[03:15] <Kyral> qt2: you can actully add that yourself
[03:15] <qt2> Kyral, i experienced all of those trying to figure out why flash wouldnt play more than one second of video.
[03:15] <ma5terdp> i get this error
[03:15] <qt2> Kyral, can i? i'm not familiar with wiki's.
[03:15] <Kyral> qt2: Yup
[03:15] <j1> Kyral... thanks, that seems to be working : )
[03:15] <shanonx> Sorry intelikey
[03:16] <ma5terdp> permission deniied
[03:16] <Kyral> shanonx: it is quite alright
[03:16] <ma5terdp> how do i cd to a drive
[03:16] <cope_> how much wood can a woodchuck chuck
[03:16] <Kyral> shanonx: Humanity To Others
[03:16] <ma5terdp> when i get permision denied
[03:16] <cope_> of course, that is, if the wood chuck could chuck it
[03:16] <Kyral> ma5terdp: cd /path
[03:16] <funktown> ma5terdp > is "/media/drive" mounted?
[03:16] <ma5terdp> yup
[03:16] <intelikey> ma5terdp so was there a file named   '1.1' in your home dir that is now in /media/drive ?
[03:16] <ma5terdp> mounted
[03:16] <diego> ESPAOL?
[03:16] <ma5terdp> it wont go  2 media drive
[03:16] <funktown> did you set up fstab?
[03:17] <ma5terdp> no how do i fstab
[03:17] <j1> Kyral, tells me to restart X...  how do you recommend I do that
[03:17] <frogzoo> !tell diego about es
[03:17] <j1> reboot?
[03:17] <diego> #ubuntu_es
[03:17] <ma5terdp> i got drive mounted
[03:17] <diego> como se entra al canal en espaol?
[03:17] <Kyral> j1: Just hit CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[03:17] <slide> Is there no 'package' for vmware5? If not, would yall recommend using the perl installers default values for the directories?
[03:17] <frogzoo> !es
[03:17] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:17] <mindlace> masterdp: is your name a reference to your proclivity at performing in a particularly plural penetrating process?
[03:17] <tiwi> what is the dcc
[03:17] <ma5terdp> lol nooo its my initials
[03:17] <j1> thanks again Kyral
[03:18] <frank23> slide: yeah the defaults should be ok.  export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4  before running config
[03:18] <fangorious> how do I prevent my network interfaces from being re-added as, for example, "auto eth0" in /etc/network/interfaces?
[03:18] <ma5terdp> ok here is what im trying 2 do
[03:18] <slide> k
[03:18] <intelikey> tiwi dcc=direct client 2 client
[03:18] <fangorious> I keep removing that, and it keeps coming back
[03:18] <mindlace> ah well... here I thought you were a porn star, ma5terdp
[03:18] <slide> frank23, there is no way to get it to use the packing system so that it can get updated regularly?
[03:19] <ma5terdp> lol
[03:19] <ma5terdp> gotcha
[03:19] <ma5terdp> done a cple flix in my days tho lol
[03:19] <frank23> slide: no vmware does not have a deb repository
[03:19] <slide> k =\
[03:19] <Kyral> j1: It worked?
[03:19] <frank23> slide: as far as I know anyways
[03:19] <frank23> slide: you need gcc-3.4 and the kernel headers installed too
[03:20] <slide> okedoke
[03:20] <slide> frank23, the 'base' or the gcc-3.4 package?
[03:20] <ma5terdp> ok i get a read only filesystem error!!
[03:20] <frank23> slide: just gcc-3.4
[03:20] <funktown> masterdp > what is it you're trying to do, exactly?
[03:21] <ma5terdp> when i do a sudo mv 1.1 /media/mac
[03:21] <slide> ty :)
[03:21] <j1> Kyral: it worked great, thanks!
[03:21] <ma5terdp> i am trying to move a file
[03:21] <j1> i was just running penguin racer to test
[03:21] <j1> flawless
[03:21] <funktown> from where to where?
[03:21] <ma5terdp> from my ubuntu desktop to my hda2 partition
[03:21] <perdidopunk> i just love dependencies...
[03:21] <Kyral> j1: Just warning. When the Kernel gets an update there is a good chance you will have to redo that
[03:21] <perdidopunk> here's a question
[03:21] <ma5terdp> wich is /media/mac
[03:21] <ma5terdp> so i do this
[03:21] <perdidopunk> i have windows installed on a raid 0 array on an SiL 0680 pci raid controller
[03:21] <perdidopunk> i want to put that installation into my grub.conf
[03:22] <fangorious> anyone? network interfaces keep getting added to /etc/network/interfaces to be configured at boot
[03:22] <ma5terdp> sudo mv 1.1 /media/mac and i get read-only file system
[03:22] <perdidopunk> what do i need to do ?
[03:22] <j1> ahh. thanks.  will i be able to start X at least?
[03:22] <frank23> j1: no
[03:22] <ICE9> damn this sucks
[03:22] <ICE9> lol
[03:22] <Kyral> j1: just drop to a terminal and redo those steps
[03:22] <funktown> ma5terdp.. "gedit /etc/fstab" and see what it says for "/dev/hda2"
[03:22] <ICE9> do I need to convert the iso maybe
[03:22] <Kyral> j1: But you don't have to worry, a kernel update shouldn't come until April
[03:22] <j1> got it.  I'll record that command for later use.
[03:22] <frank23> j1: If I understand what you did... you installed the nvidia drivers from nvidia.com
[03:22] <frank23> ?
[03:22] <intelikey> ICE9 what are you trying to do with this file ?
[03:23] <ma5terdp> k working
[03:23] <j1> Kryal, do you work for whobuntu?
[03:23] <ICE9> I need files inside the iso
[03:23] <frogzoo> fangorious: not sure - gnome doing it? deactivate card through network settings? tool bar, top right
[03:23] <ma5terdp> it says /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot / auto noatime 0 0
[03:23] <ma5terdp> tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nosuid,nodev 0 0
[03:23] <Kyral> Kyral: I am a Member, yes
[03:23] <Kyral> err
[03:23] <Kyral> lol
[03:23] <j1> cool
[03:23] <Kyral> j1: I am a Member yes
[03:23] <perdidopunk> can i upgrade packages with dpkg ?
[03:23] <ICE9> I need to copy some the of files inside the iso
[03:23] <ICE9> so I can play quake ?
[03:23] <funktown> no.. for /dev/hda2.. wheres the mountpoint at?
[03:23] <Kyral> j1: In my normal life I'm just a college student who likes to help
[03:24] <slide> what is 'make' part of?
[03:24] <ma5terdp> thats what fstab says
[03:24] <j1> Kyral: how long have you studied linux
[03:24] <intelikey> ICE9 what is the path and name of the iso ?
[03:24] <ICE9> mount: unknown filesystem type 'dev-qua4.iso'
[03:24] <ICE9> oops
[03:24] <ICE9> one sec
[03:24] <slide> which version of automake should i install? The newest?
[03:24] <Kyral> j1: Studied isn't the word. Used is more like it. Almost 3 years now
[03:24] <ma5terdp> i mounted my /dev/hda2 onto /media/mac
[03:24] <perdidopunk> what do i do, dpkg -U or something to update packages ?
[03:25] <Kyral> perdidopunk: just install the new version
[03:25] <j1> Kyral: well, thanks for your help
[03:25] <Kyral> I believe DPKG will take care of the rest
[03:25] <ICE9> sudo mount -o loop -t qua4.iso /home/ice9/games/QUAKE.4.DVD-DEViANCE/qua4.iso  /mnt/quake/
[03:25] <ma5terdp> ii did a sudo mount /dev/hda2 -t hfsplus /media/mac
[03:25] <ICE9> that what I have
[03:25] <Kyral> j1: Anytime. This is what I am here for
[03:25] <ma5terdp> is that correct>
[03:25] <intelikey> perdidopunk man dpkg for all the switchs
[03:25] <perdidopunk> i think i found it
[03:25] <funktown> dunno.. i always just made fstab entries =P
[03:26] <perdidopunk> ugh
[03:26] <stevenj> can somone please tell me if its possible to play encrypted wmv files in breezy???? I can play regular wmv or anything else!
[03:26] <perdidopunk> i'm getting no breaks
[03:26] <Technobabble> thank you guys a lot, i'll be back later
[03:26] <diego> como agrego un canal en espaol?
[03:26] <ma5terdp> so how would i to a fstab>
[03:26] <McScruff> lo, what package do i need for  uudeview.h
[03:26] <intelikey> ICE9 qua4.iso is a file system type  ????
[03:26] <perdidopunk> i'm about to scrap this and get another distro if i can't at least get X up and running soon
[03:26] <ICE9> yes
[03:26] <navarone> McScruff,  try sudo dpkg -l <filename>
[03:26] <diego> nadie habla espaol che?
[03:27] <intelikey> and qua4.isofs is supported by your kernel ?
[03:27] <ICE9> should be
[03:27] <perdidopunk> can i force this to remove libc6 ???
[03:27] <ICE9> amd generic
[03:27] <ICE9> 64 bit
[03:27] <perdidopunk> i'm trying to install a new version
[03:27] <funktown> ma5terdp > /dev/hda2 /media/mac ext3(or whatever) defaults 0 0
[03:27] <Nikusan> diego, /join #ubuntu-es
[03:27] <frank23> perdidopunk: don't ever remove libc6
[03:28] <perdidopunk> i have a newer version that i need to install
[03:28] <ma5terdp> how do i enter taht?
[03:28] <logical_mark> Hey guys. My laptop battery died when I was in Ubuntu and now when I login it just sits on the brown background. None of the icons or panels start up
[03:28] <ma5terdp> just in terminal
[03:28] <ma5terdp> as is
[03:28] <perdidopunk> it's part of a set of dependencies for libncurses5-dev
[03:28] <frogzoo> ICE9: no way - I think youe looking at the file name
[03:28] <intelikey> ICE9 it's new fs type to me.... all the iso's i've played with were iso9660/rr
[03:28] <perdidopunk> is there an update flag for dpkg ???
[03:28] <perdidopunk> --update-avail didn't do anything
[03:28] <ma5terdp> lol how do i unmouint drive
[03:29] <frogzoo> perdidopunk: man dpkg
[03:29] <perdidopunk> -i just tells me it's already installed
[03:29] <theCore> diego, ask how to add a spanish channel
[03:29] <perdidopunk> i looked in there
[03:29] <ma5terdp> never mind lol
[03:29] <perdidopunk> the only useful one i could find was --update-avail but that just gives me a parse error
[03:29] <ICE9> its an iso from a rar
[03:29] <perdidopunk> newline in field name '!<arch>'
[03:29] <ICE9> not a cd
[03:29] <perdidopunk> this is starting to get pretty lame
[03:29] <frank23> perdidopunk: what are you trying to do exactly?  you can use synaptic to have everything updated
 try this pls.  ' sudo mount -o loop /home/ice9/games/QUAKE.4.DVD-DEViANCE/qua4.iso  /mnt/quake/ ; ls /mnt/quake '
[03:29] <diego> como es el canal espaol?
[03:29] <perdidopunk> i had an easier time putting linux on my laptop...
[03:30] <amonkey> what's a good prog for monitoring which proccesses are hoggin the memory? top shows that almost all my memory is taken but doesn't say who, and gkrell says it's almost all free
[03:30] <perdidopunk> i can't update anything over the net
[03:30] <perdidopunk> because ubuntu can't see my network card
[03:30] <ICE9> yeah that is the file name
[03:30] <perdidopunk> or my video card for that matter
[03:30] <frogzoo> ICE9: I think if this file was an iso, 'file' would recognise it - my guess is it's still in rar form & you need to unrar it
[03:30] <ICE9> I'm sorry just got confused
 try this pls.  ' sudo mount -o loop /home/ice9/games/QUAKE.4.DVD-DEViANCE/qua4.iso  /mnt/quake/ ; ls /mnt/quake '
[03:30] <perdidopunk> so i'm stuck in a terminal with no network connectivity
[03:30] <ma5terdp> hay funktown how do i enter that cmd?
[03:30] <ma5terdp> says permision denied
[03:30] <Hericus> ^majik^, you left the forums?
[03:30] <Xenguy> amonkey: top should show who
[03:30] <mcjerry> does anyone use the MCE remote in ubuntu?
[03:30] <perdidopunk> i have the .deb file for libc6
[03:30] <perdidopunk> and all i want to do is replace the older version
[03:31] <frogzoo> intelikey: this file ICE9 is trying to mount isnt an iso
[03:31] <frank23> perdidopunk: you need a more recent version of libc6? why?
[03:31] <amonkey> Xenguy, top mem% can't be correct, only 15-20% (inline withwhat gkrell says is used) is shown but at the top it's almost all gone
[03:31] <perdidopunk> in order to get libncurses5-dev installed
[03:31] <perdidopunk> so that i can do make menuconfig to configure my kernel
[03:31] <intelikey> frogzoo ah dvd
[03:31] <perdidopunk> i don't want to do it in text mode
[03:31] <perdidopunk> so that i can configure the kernel to support pci express
[03:32] <tk422> hello
[03:32] <perdidopunk> so that i can get some video and network drivers installed
[03:32] <ma5terdp> anyone?
[03:32] <Xenguy> amonkey: check CPU and mem, find the offending app, and kill -9 it
[03:32] <diego>  /join #ubuntu-es
[03:32] <perdidopunk> so that i can finally think about changing my grub.conf to boot back into windows on that machine
[03:32] <tk422> can anyone help with a problem? when I launch amarok it says something about a DCOP problem, anyone know about this?
[03:32] <navarone> perdidopunk,  if you don't want to configure in text mode shouldn't your first task be getting x server operational?
[03:32] <amonkey> Xenguy, in the rows, nothing is taking up a lot of anything
[03:32] <ICE9> ok I get iso9960
[03:32] <perdidopunk> can't very well do that without pci express support
[03:32] <ICE9> is teh filetype
[03:32] <frank23> perdidopunk: oh.... the breezy kernel doesn't support pci express ?
[03:32] <perdidopunk> my video card is a radeon x1800 xt 512mb
[03:33] <perdidopunk> just came out
[03:33] <ICE9> ok
[03:33] <perdidopunk> i have the drivers for it
[03:33] <navarone> perdidopunk, ...seesm yuo put the cart before the horse
[03:33] <Xenguy> amonkey: in top, try playing with the > key
[03:33] <perdidopunk> but i have a feeling that when i installed ubuntu it didn't configure the kernel for pci express support
[03:33] <ma5terdp> sorry 2 keep buggin
[03:33] <Xenguy> amonkey: and then < to get back where you were
[03:33] <ma5terdp> anyone help me out
[03:33] <perdidopunk> it would've helped if it asked me to choose how i wanted to configure it instead of just doing it for me...
[03:33] <amonkey> Xenguy, yeah i know about that, nothing is taking the memory nor the cycles
[03:33] <ma5terdp> i am trying 2 edit my drive
[03:33] <bretzel> Hi there, how to configure and enable the TV out with ubuntu ?
[03:33] <intelikey> ok ICE9 any error message ?    or any output from the 'ls' ?
[03:34] <Xenguy> amonkey: if memory is short, then something is hogging it - what do you think is going on?
[03:34] <qt2> Kyral, erm, is there certain rules that should be followed when editing a wiki page?
[03:34] <mcjerry> anyone..if i want to use my MCE remote in ubuntu, what do i need to install other than LIRC package in synaptec?
[03:34] <mcjerry> bretzel, what video card?
[03:35] <Xenguy> amonkey: otherwise, maybe your system is compromised and someone invisible is using your resources <evil grin>
[03:35] <sorush20> guys hi
[03:35] <Xenguy> amonkey: only a remote possibility I trust
[03:35] <sorush20> I've install jdk
[03:36] <amonkey> Xenguy, the werid thing is gkrell says the memory is free and top says it's not, but doesn't say whose using it. i don't think it's a intruder, no significant net traffic
[03:36] <perdidopunk> well
[03:36] <perdidopunk> let's see if alien will install my video drivers and if then X -configure will fix things anyway
[03:36] <Xenguy> amonkey: maybe kill X and check things from the console?
[03:36] <ICE9> I'm so sorry guys
[03:36] <perdidopunk> broken pipe
[03:36] <perdidopunk> man
[03:36] <ICE9> I though iso9960 was an example
[03:36] <amonkey> is there any other app than top that will show me this info?
[03:37] <perdidopunk> ubuntu just doesn't like any part of my computer
[03:37] <ChrisC_> OK, this is not cool.  I have just now experienced the most recent of several severe crashes on my new Ubuntu machine.  Clock freezes, no response to NumLock key, mouse not moving, no response to pings.  Anything else I can check before rebooting, and what should I check AFTER rebooting?
[03:37] <Xenguy> amonkey: what does 'free' say?
[03:37] <intelikey> ICE9 i said that -t was superflutious anyway....
[03:37] <amonkey> 35000k
[03:37] <perdidopunk> is anybody here using the ati linux drivers for radeon cards ???
[03:37] <amonkey> Xenguy, used is 1500000k
[03:38] <mcjerry> ChrisC_ do you have a cdrom or dvd mounted?
[03:38] <Xenguy> amonkey: and/or maybe memstat
[03:38] <ChrisC_> nope
[03:38] <ICE9> yeah -t -a is but you actually need the filesystem name
[03:38] <ICE9> I didn't know that
[03:38] <mcjerry> Can anyone help me with LIRC?
[03:38] <frank23> perdidopunk: did you try editing xorg.conf and using vesa as the driver?
[03:38] <Xenguy> amonkey: how much RAM do you have?
[03:38] <perdidopunk> what is initrd-tools for ?
[03:38] <mcjerry> ChrisC_ have you looked in terminal to see what processes are running and killall one by one
[03:38] <perdidopunk> can i remove that ?
[03:38] <merly> does apt-get get source and compile, or binary packages?
[03:39] <intelikey> filesystem name ?   file name ?    yes but not the fstype
[03:39] <mustard5> ChrisC_, you checked the forums for any similar problems?
[03:39] <ChrisC_> mcjerry: how to get to terminal? :)
[03:39] <frank23> merly: it gets binary packages
[03:39] <Vasion> Can someone tell me a VALID sources.list file for breezy so I can upgrade from hoary? The one on the wiki sucks/doesnt work.
[03:39] <Xenguy> ChrisC_: Ctrl-Alt F2  :-)
[03:39] <mcjerry> ChrisC_, ubuntu ... gnome?
[03:39] <mustard5> !sources
[03:39] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:39] <ChrisC_> Xenguy, mcjerry:  it's dead, no mouse, keyboard, ping ...
[03:39] <merly> frank - how long would it gake me to apt-get x.org or whatever the name of the package is?
[03:40] <nadia007> anyone setup jinzora with msql 2000?
[03:40] <merly> i'm new, and thinking of dropping debian
[03:40] <merly> i mean dropping gentoo
[03:40] <Vasion> do it
[03:40] <ChrisC_> just wondering if there's anyhting else I can try before rebooting, and what I should look at AFTER I reboot (some sort of dump/panic record?)
[03:40] <mcjerry> ChrisC_ have you tried Ctrl-Alt-BackSpace to restart X session?
[03:40] <ChrisC_> hold on
[03:40] <perdidopunk> can i force apt-get to look in a specific place for a package ?
[03:41] <intelikey> "<ChrisC_> mcjerry: how to get to terminal? :)"  ---  "<Xenguy> ChrisC_: Ctrl-Alt F2  :-)"  <--- not a terminal.   that is a console.
[03:41] <Xenguy> intelikey: oops  =)
[03:41] <Vasion_> !sources
[03:41] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:41] <mcjerry> inelikey......sho u right
[03:41] <perdidopunk> anybody ?
[03:42] <mcjerry> intelikey I am used to shelling in from another pc so I forget some can't
[03:42] <ChrisC_> intelikey: doesn't matter, nothing works; Ctrl-Alt-Backspace doesn't work; OK, so what should I check after rebooting?  This is bad.
[03:42] <amonkey> Xenguy, gig and a half, which is why i'm wondering who took it all
[03:42] <amonkey> Xenguy, i shouldn't be touching the swap
[03:43] <Urthmover> anyone know how to make a fat32 partition visible?
[03:43] <intelikey> ChrisC_ nothing works ?   can you give me more to work with please
[03:43] <GMachine_24> Someone told me that in order to run a program under my user name I have to do this: "sudo adduser" and then "username disk". When I do this I get a message that "disk already exists". Can anyone help me?
[03:43] <ChrisC_> intelikey: hold on, I'll repost ...
[03:43] <intelikey> Urthmover mount them
[03:43] <Kyral> qt2: sorry I stepped out
[03:43] <ChrisC_> [repost]  OK, this is not cool.  I have just now experienced the most recent of several severe crashes on my new Ubuntu machine.  Clock freezes, no response to NumLock key, mouse not moving, no response to pings.  Anything else I can check before rebooting, and what should I check AFTER rebooting?
[03:44] <Urthmover> ok I'mm man mount then thx intel
[03:44] <Xenguy> amonkey: 1.5 Gb?! It is crazy that it is all used (if it really is).  If it were me I would reboot and re-check
[03:44] <intelikey> Urthmover use 'sudo fdisk -l '  to find addresses then 'sudo mount <address> <mount/point> '
[03:44] <amonkey> Xenguy, free -m confirms what top i saying. this is a constant problem, though i can't identify when it started
[03:44] <mcjerry> ChrisC_ do you have another pc on the network you can use to vt in
[03:44] <pizzathief> my laptop freezes at random intervals if apm is on
[03:45] <ChrisC_> mcjerry: NO PING REPONSE :)
[03:45] <Xenguy> amonkey: other than my last advice, I don't know what to say - that is totally insane
[03:45] <mcjerry> ouch
[03:45] <mcjerry> what cpu?
[03:45] <ChrisC_> OK, let's move on .. what should I check after rebooting it?  dump/panic/log files?  where exactly?
[03:45] <intelikey> ChrisC_ EEEK!  boot to single  and see if it can even run in single mode.
[03:45] <kieso> hi all
[03:46] <amonkey> Xenguy, thanks.
[03:46] <kieso> i need help
[03:46] <ChrisC_> intelikey: I should note, it worked for days and then just crashed, so I ahve no doubt that I'll be able to reboot into normal runlevel
[03:46] <frogzoo> ChrisC_: check /var/log/messages just prior to reboot
[03:46] <mcjerry> ChrisC_ look through /var/logs and review .0 logs
[03:47] <mcjerry> after reboot
[03:47] <ChrisC_> frogzoo: can't, it's dead, will have to be after reboot
[03:47] <intelikey> ChrisC_ last line of files in /var/log    tac /var/log/* | grep -m2 -ie [a-z]     maybe.
[03:47] <sorush20> hi anyone here from the UK?
[03:47] <frogzoo> ChrisC_: thats cool - it's not going anywhere
[03:47] <mcjerry> sorry ChrisC_
[03:47] <kieso> does anyone know where or how i can enable ubuntu so that it can play dvd movies without that error
[03:48] <mcjerry> so one more time, can anyone help me with MCE remote and LIRC
[03:48] <ChrisC_> intelikey: is tac a fancy cat
[03:48] <lightbright> kieso: yes thats possible
[03:48] <intelikey> mcjerry not i mate.  sorry.
[03:48] <kieso> thanks lightbright
[03:49] <intelikey> ChrisC_ yessir  it starts at the bottom
[03:49] <lightbright> kieso: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html
[03:49] <lightbright> kieso: follow the intructions on that webpage exactly as is
[03:49] <kieso> awesome!
[03:49] <kieso> thanks
[03:49] <mcjerry> np, i gotta say though, never had a software related issue force me to reboot ubuntu
[03:49] <lightbright> kieso: welcome :)
[03:49] <ChrisC_> intelikey: gotcha, thanks
[03:49] <psycode> Is there a non-graphical way to burn a dvd image/data? (I'm having problems running X and I really need to burn something..)
[03:50] <_tcc> Anyone program perl here?
[03:50] <_tcc> or use CPAN?
[03:50] <sammy76> i need to install grub to the root partition instead of it overwriting the boot manager I have, is there anyway to do this
[03:50] <_tcc> I cannot get CPAN to install modules.
[03:50] <psycode> _tcc, #perl
[03:50] <_tcc> no i was told to come here
[03:50] <mcjerry> is there a LIRC channel?
[03:51] <intelikey> psycode yes there is.   unfortunately i don't have a dvd player and thus havent learned the command yet.
[03:51] <psycode> intelikey, do you know the name of the program?
[03:51] <intelikey> no.
[03:52] <intelikey> dv[tab]   and man anything that looks suspicious  :)
[03:52] <mcjerry> intelikey, ChrisC_ .... later, hope you get the prob resolved......those symptoms sound heat related...... I'd also run memtest to be sure no memory prob.
[03:52] <xfree> is there on gnome-look or on gnome-art any theme based on cairo ?
[03:53] <intelikey> mcjerry or loose connection maybe even.
[03:53] <mustard5> psycode, dvdrtools is one I think
[03:53] <mcjerry> yup
[03:53] <mustard5> psycode, and another is dvd+rw-tools
[03:53] <intelikey> take care.
[03:54] <psycode> mustard5, thanks i'll try apt-getting it
[03:54] <mustard5> psycode, another is mkisofs
[03:54] <Shady> I just installed network-manager, and it's not showing up in appications. Is there a process I missed?
[03:54] <mustard5> psycode, I don't know what any of them do though :)
[03:54] <psycode> :P
[03:54] <intelikey> mustard5 does mkisofs now fully support dvd's ?
[03:55] <mustard5> intelikey, synaptics says something about DVD's in the description..thats all I know
[03:55] <_tcc> So anyone know why CPAN can never run make?
[03:55] <intelikey> k
[03:55] <_tcc> I  need a module!
[03:56] <intelikey> _tcc you have build-essential installed ?
[03:56] <cafuego> woot
[03:56] <Shady> Help network manager isn't working. I've installed it using synaptic, but it doesn't show up in applications, is there a process I missed?
[03:56] <Siph0n> neone have issues with a NEC burner burning slower than its suppose to ? or any dvd burner burning slower in linux than in windows?
[03:57] <_tcc> intelikey: I may be able to download the module manually.
[03:57] <_tcc> brb
[03:57] <_tcc> where the hell is my make install?
[03:58] <mustard5> _tcc, in build-essential
[03:58] <intelikey> !b-e
[03:58] <ubotu> If you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to apt-get install build-essential.
[03:58] <intelikey> !build-essential
[03:58] <ubotu> intelikey: Are you on ritalin?
[03:58] <intelikey> !botsmack
[03:58] <ubotu> intelikey: What?
[03:59] <qt2> hm, just finished my first edit ever of a wiki, someone wanna make sure i didnt screw up too badly? ;)
[03:59] <_tcc> wow i never even had make....
[03:59] <_tcc> ..............
[04:00] <sorush20> no ops here right?
[04:00] <intelikey> _tcc that's what i asked ^ up there.
[04:00] <mustard5> qt2 whats the link?
[04:00] <calc> anyone know how to get xinerama working in gnome?
[04:00] <calc> gdm is showing up right but gnome is still showing as cloned
[04:00] <sorush20> guys I just wanted to find out if there are any farms I can but direct form?
[04:00] <mrkoje> does anyone know of a deb for freevo?
[04:00] <dip> anyone have experiece with cyberpowerpc.com or ibuypower.com ?? which would you buy from ?
[04:00] <Kyral> !find freevo
[04:00] <Shady> Am I supposed to do something to the file after I get it off of synaptic?
[04:01] <Kyral> Shady: it installs it for you
[04:01] <intelikey> sorush20 there are ops lurking
[04:01] <qt2> mustard5, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats i added the "symptoms" subheading of flash issues > sound, and i rearranged flash issues > sound > possible fixes to make more sense.
[04:01] <sorush20> I just wanted to ask a general question related to freeness
[04:01] <Kyral> dip: I'd buy the parts from Newegg and put it together
[04:01] <Shady> Kyral, It has for some programs but it won't for Network manager.
[04:01] <mrkoje> !freevo
[04:01] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, mrkoje
[04:02] <pbransford> anyone know about using the scanner on HP officejet all-in-one printers over network?
[04:02] <mrkoje> !find freevo
[04:02] <nowisn> can someone help me connect to the internet through a linksys laptop card
[04:02] <sorush20> any one here form london know where I can but lots of veg chaply from the farm?
[04:02] <nowisn> pcmcia
[04:02] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'freevo' returned no results.
[04:02] <pbransford> i can print fine, don't care about "Instant Share". but scanning would be helpful
[04:02] <intelikey> sorush20 is that the same as saying 'i just wanted to troll a bit' ?
[04:02] <leather_n_luv> !find mc
[04:02] <oblib> How do I map drive from one Ubuntu computer to another?
[04:02] <sorush20> troll?
[04:02] <intelikey> nm
[04:02] <mrkoje> pbransford... have you tried xsane
[04:03] <Shady> Anyone have synaptic NOT install a program for them before?
[04:03] <cafuego> sorush20: Markets
[04:03] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'freevo' returned no results.
[04:03] <mrkoje> oblib.. you need to "mount" the share on one ubunto machine to te other.... thats essentially mapping in widows speak
[04:03] <oblib> Shady, there are thousands of programs Synaptic hasn't installed on my computer yet
[04:03] <sorush20> any good markets in london
[04:03] <cafuego> sorush20: Look it up on google.
[04:03] <Kyral> sorush20: This is a channel for Ubuntu Supprot
[04:03] <oblib> mrkoje, how do I address it?
[04:04] <mrkoje> it needs to be shared
[04:04] <Kyral> sorush20: if you must, ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:04] <rightcoast> ???
[04:04] <rightcoast> heh
[04:04] <zuka> Oh yes great markets
[04:04] <sorush20> Kyral: sorry
[04:04] <Shady> oblib, right, but I specifically d/l'ed the program and it isnt' showing up in the apps. menu.
[04:04] <VR^> where can i get the default sources.list? i didn't backup :X
[04:04] <pbransford> mrkoje, no. can xsane do networked scanning?
[04:04] <mrkoje> sudo mount -t //222.222.222.222/share  /folder/tomountin
[04:04] <oblib> Shady, that's typical -- not all progs have built in shortcuts. What program?
[04:05] <Kyral> !easysources
[04:05] <ubotu> Kyral: I haven't a clue
[04:05] <Kyral> !easysource
[04:05] <ubotu> well, easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:05] <pbransford> mrkoje, it just says "no scanners available" doesn't give me the choice to specify
[04:05] <oblib> that's what I'm looking for mrkoje, thatks
[04:05] <Shady> oblib, network-manager
[04:05] <shanonx> If i have xmms as a .tar how do I install it?
[04:05] <mustard5> qt2, looks good to me on a casual perusal :)
[04:05] <intelikey> VR^ methinks you can  sudo rm /apt/sources.list ;sudo dpkg-reconfigure apt
[04:06] <nifelseki> i have a dlink g132 wireless usb adapter.. how do i get it working in ubuntu..?
[04:06] <zuka> any sound to x-chat, new user, thanks
[04:06] <mrkoje> oblib: I think as long as your using ubuntu to ubuntu... provided that your folders are listed in the nfs config... then you should be able to mount them just fine...i think
[04:06] <d03boy> anyone use synergy? where do I put my conf file
[04:06] <mrkoje> d03boy... Im using it
[04:06] <oblib> Shady, Applications -> System Tools -> Applications Menu Editor will let you make new icons on your menu
[04:06] <oblib> the command to run it is probably just 'network-manager' I've never used that one before though
[04:07] <Urthmover> what command will show me available space on a mount point?
[04:07] <oblib> mrkoje, nfs config?
[04:07] <Kyral> Urthmover: df -h
[04:07] <Urthmover> thx
[04:07] <intelikey> shanonx you delete the tarball  and use apt-get install blah     or synaptic the gui package manager, being a noobee  :)
[04:07] <Shady> oblib, alright, I'll try it out. Thanks
[04:07] <qt2> mustard5, thanks, i tried my best to make it not suck ^.^;
[04:07] <Urthmover> well I made a mount point ..... how do I make sure it does it everytime I reboot?
[04:08] <mrkoje> oblib: Im pretty sure that you need to have nfs service running first.... "network file sharing" there is a text file that you need to add a path for your shares in.
[04:08] <Hatred[2] > hey guys I'm using xfree86, "savage" video driver and DRI isn't working. the dri module loads successfully, I have sufficient permissions to access /dev/dri/card0, but glxinfo says that dri isn't enabled. I noticed there's no savage_dri.so in the xfree libs. do I need to do something special, or should i just update to xorg?
[04:08] <oblib> mrkoje, when I try to mount it like that, it tried to samba it
[04:08] <qt2> mustard5, considering the large amount of traffic the restrictedformats page gets. ;)
[04:08] <mustard5> qt2, heh yeah
[04:08] <mrkoje> oblib:  try   sudo mount -t cifs
[04:08] <bsims> ok this isn't in the FAQ, why the blessed Hell did (k)ubuntu not enable a root account, and disable the CUPS webservice?
[04:08] <mrkoje> I don't know why but that works
[04:08] <navarone> shanonx, if it's available in binary at repo...install that way. If you have to compile from tar sources you can get frustrated beyond belief if luck is not on your side...and wind is at the back...and so on...<s>
[04:08] <mrkoje> for me
[04:09] <d03boy> mrkoje, so... where do I put the conf file :P
[04:09] <qt2> mustard5, figured i'd add in the symotoms for others, considering i spent the better part of todaty figuring out the problem :P
[04:09] <VR^> intelikey: no, that didn't work
[04:09] <VR^> intelikey: now i don't have a sources.list anymore
[04:09] <Shady> oblib, tried it and the programs aren
[04:09] <VR^> :\
[04:09] <mrkoje> d03boy: where did you install synergy?
[04:09] <leather_n_luv> is there any reason why synaptic doesn't automount the cdrom?
[04:09] <mrkoje> d03boy: or was it from apt-get?
[04:09] <d03boy> mrkoje, I dont know... I used the debian apt-get
[04:09] <mustard5> qt2, yes..I'm sure it will be helpful...thats what wikis are for anyway :)
[04:09] <intelikey> !repos
[04:09] <ubotu> well, repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[04:09] <d03boy> mrkoje, actually I installed it on my debian laptop if that matters
[04:09] <mrkoje> d03boy: are you creating a server conf...  ?
[04:10] <d03boy> no
[04:10] <d03boy> windows = server
[04:10] <Shady> oblib, sorry laptop, close keys. But I tried it and it didn't show up either. where would I find the command files, I'm rather new to this file system (got linux 3 days ago)
[04:10] <intelikey> VR^ for your distros sources use ^
[04:10] <mrkoje> d03boy oh great... I don't think you even need to have a conf file.
[04:10] <russell__> looking for some help getting a usb zd1211u driver working
[04:10] <d03boy> ok
[04:10] <d03boy> mrkoje, i'll try it then
[04:10] <mrkoje> d03boy:  I think all you will need to do is run:   synergyc 192.168.xx.xx
[04:10] <oblib> Shady, easiest way is to look in synaptic and you can find the files that it installed
[04:11] <d03boy> k
[04:11] <russell__> I have it loaded with ndiswrapper but still not able to see the device in network settings
[04:11] <mrkoje> to what ever your server is... you need to run the synergyc  "client" from your laptop... you need to have the windows machine running the server first...
[04:11] <VR^> intelikey: i got it, nevermind
[04:11] <VR^> intelikey: thanks!
[04:11] <_chani> hello. i was wondering how i can install the "make" package without a cd?
[04:11] <oblib> Shady, sorry did you mean it didn't show up in your applications menu?
[04:12] <Shady> oblib, right, it doesn't show up in my applications menu, and I don't know what these new file extensions mean.
[04:12] <intelikey> VR^ can i ask if there was an error message from the dpkg-reconfigure apt   command ?
[04:12] <dooglus__> _chani: disable the cd source if you don't have the CD
[04:12] <VR^> intelikey: no error, no
[04:12] <VR^> intelikey: just nothing happened
[04:12] <_chani> dooglus__: from synaptic?
[04:12] <dooglus__> _chani: yes.
[04:12] <_chani> ty
[04:12] <intelikey> and you are on breezy ?
[04:12] <_tcc> ls
[04:13] <VR^> intelikey: yep
[04:13] <nowisn> can someone help me to get ubuntu to recognize my eth0 network card?
[04:13] <_tcc> oh not a term sry
[04:13] <_tcc> lol
[04:13] <dooglus__> _chani: or edit /etc/apt/sources.list directly if you prefer.  "sudo gedit /etc/apt/source.list"
[04:13] <intelikey> hmmmm
[04:13] <oblib> Shady, so you did "New Entry" in the subsection you wanted? And then what?
[04:13] <nifelseki> hi guys.. problem.. i just installed ubuntu.. i have a dlink g132 wireless usb adapter.. how do i get it working..?
[04:13] <dooglus__> _chani: I missed an 's'
[04:14] <Razor-X> nifelseki: you have a model slightly better than mine
[04:14] <intelikey> !wifi
[04:14] <ubotu> wifi is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[04:14] <shanonx> is there a way to setup XMMS so that it will always be the "default player for mp3's"?
[04:14] <yuri> hello, just a wuick question: when I mount a drive it shows up on my desktop as an icon. How do I prevent the icon from showing?
[04:14] <VR^> i just pasted this into /etc/apt/ and it works
[04:14] <yuri> quick*
[04:14] <nifelseki> the g122 performs just as well
[04:14] <Razor-X> nifelseki: you can try your hand at the rlink2570 drivers that seem to work famously for some people, but don't work for others (like me), or you can use ndiswrapper
[04:14] <acidmoon> hello
[04:14] <d03boy> omfg, this is awesome!
[04:14] <acidmoon> has anyone here used debian ?
[04:14] <Razor-X> acidmoon: many, I imagine
[04:14] <dooglus__> yuri: I uninstalled the nautilus package.  that fixed it for me, but may be too big a step for you
[04:14] <markasdf> a
[04:15] <yuri> dooglus_: its too much to bother tu uninstall nautilus
[04:15] <Flashmatt> I have a BIG problem guys/gals where can I paste my output online for display purposes
[04:15] <Flashmatt> ?
[04:15] <xspades> pastebin.com
[04:15] <dooglus__> yuri: it's one command
[04:15] <Hatred[2] > hey guys I'm using xfree86, "savage" video driver and DRI isn't working. the dri module loads successfully, I have sufficient permissions to access /dev/dri/card0, but glxinfo says that dri isn't enabled. I noticed there's no savage_dri.so in the xfree libs. do I need to do something special, or should i just update to xorg?
[04:15] <intelikey> acidmoon yes, and technically you are using a varient of it now.
[04:15] <Razor-X> !ndiswrapper
[04:15] <ubotu> somebody said ndiswrapper was a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[04:15] <mrkoje> d03boy I guess you got it working?
[04:15] <yuri> dooglus_: but its also my filebrowser...
[04:15] <brett> I assigned a keyboard shortcut to do volume up and volume down and it isn't changing the volume on the right mixer, where can i change that?
[04:15] <dooglus__> yuri: fair enough.
[04:16] <d03boy> mrkoje, yes, thanks
[04:16] <nifelseki> thanks guys.. i'll look into it
[04:16] <pbransford> arg. freaking firefox needs to stop hanging while waiting DNS replies
[04:16] <mrkoje> d03boy: I really like the synergy app.... makes my life better :)
[04:16] <intelikey> !start a distro war
[04:16] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, intelikey
[04:16] <Flashmatt> thanks
[04:16] <d03boy> mine too now :P
[04:16] <_chani> dooglus__: thanks. i got it
[04:16] <intelikey> !start an editor war
[04:16] <ubotu> vim is better than xemacs.
[04:16] <nowisn> Yo guys why is kubuntu not recognizing my linksys lappy card?
[04:16] <dooglus__> _chani: what's the answer?
[04:17] <navarone> yuri> Use Applications/Systemtools/Config Editor...Apps/Nautilus//Desktop...uncheck "make volumes visible" and drive icons should disappear
[04:17] <dabaR> shanonx: did you figure it out?
[04:17] <dooglus__> _chani: sorry. I was mixing you up with yuri :)
[04:17] <navarone> yuri...at least from desktop
[04:18] <Razor-X> just for all of you out there who don't know what tab-complete is: type in the first few letters of a person's name and hit TAB to have it auto-complete, just a friendly reminder :)
[04:18] <_chani> dooglus__: heh. i was kinda wondering what the question was..
[04:18] <Xenguy> Has anyone here used 'tsclient'?  I'm wondering if it is able to serve as a client for citrix also?
[04:19] <dabaR> nowisn: the manufacturer did not release specs, and you did not install the windows drivers using ndiswrapper, perhaps?
[04:19] <dooglus__> Razor-X: where do you mean to type the person's name?
[04:19] <Razor-X> dooglus__: in IRC, rather
[04:19] <dooglus__> Razor-X: oh, I see :)
[04:19] <mrkoje> dabaR, was it you I got into a fight with about iptables not being run by default on ubuntu?
[04:20] <nowisn> no I didn't install anything yet
[04:20] <shanonx> dabaR: yes thank you
[04:20] <intelikey> razor-X  you could have mentioned that tab-completion works in console/terminal also  :)
[04:20] <dabaR> mrkoje: I dont get into fights over things like that.
[04:20] <mrkoje> dabaR, ok.. lol
[04:20] <Razor-X> intelikey: bah, it was just for the number of people who didn't seem to be using tab-complete
[04:20] <dabaR> mrkoje: If I know something for a fact, then I dont get into a fight over it.
[04:20] <dabaR> mrkoje: beliefs, opinions, sometimes.
[04:21] <dooglus__> intelikey: especially if you uncomment the lines in ~/.bashrc about 'completion' - it gets a lot smarter if you do that.
[04:21] <intelikey> exactly my point razor-x
[04:21] <Razor-X> now... if someone wants to help me with Japanese, I would appreciate it if you hopped on over to #ubuntu-offtopic and gave me a discourse, but I'll take my leave
[04:21] <dabaR> why are they not uncomented by dwefault?>
[04:21] <guido_> This may be the most amusing thing you all hear ALL day... I am relatively new to Linux and bash, but i know enough to get in trouble.. i wanted to ADD permissions to my /etc folder, so I did a chmod, but instead of increasing, i chmodd'd to 700.... and locked myself out of my own /etc file.. my face became white as could be.. luckily, i'm not SO dumb that i remembered the recovery console.. but what a hoot!
[04:21] <nowisn> I'm a total newbie at this and tryed to get my connection through kppp dialup but my modem will not be recognized so i thought i'd plug in my pcmcia linksys card in my lappy and connect it to my dsl router
[04:22] <mrkoje> watashi wah nihongo ga skoshi wakadimas
[04:22] <intelikey> dooglus__ but of course,  hehhe lets not have them rebuild the whole system just yet though  :)
[04:22] <guido_> two line limit.
[04:22] <Razor-X> dooglus__: BASH has smart tab completion, I'm surprised
[04:22] <mrkoje> thats my attempt at horrible romanji
[04:22] <dooglus__> Razor-X: it's programmable
[04:22] <guido_> crap. i was telling my HILARIOUS adventure.
[04:22] <Razor-X> mrkoje: I was looking for you
[04:22] <dabaR> nowisn: do "ifconfig" in a terminal, tell us what you see there.
[04:22] <monkievox> howdy all!  how can i tell from command line what version of kernal i have?
[04:22] <mrkoje> Razor-X, I am affraid thats all I know... i did live in Japan for three years though
[04:22] <Razor-X> mrkoje: I'm a bit better, but not too much, at romaji (or roomaji, or romanji, whatever the hell you call it)
[04:22] <Falstius> monkievox: uname
[04:23] <monkievox> falstius: danke!
[04:23] <guido_> FUNNY STORY: i am an idiot. i sudo chmodd'd my /etc folder to 700... i learned a valuable lesson.. .don't do that. hah!
[04:23] <Falstius> monkievox: bitte.
[04:23] <nowisn> how do i type that in correctly
[04:23] <dooglus__> guido_: the lesson is to use letters instead of numbers when using chmod
[04:23] <Flashmatt22> i don't know what that means, but it sounds funny!
[04:24] <Flashmatt22> actually, I do
[04:24] <dabaR> nowisn: "ifconfig" (with fingers)_
[04:24] <dooglus__> guido_: do a "chmod g+w" for instance to give Write to the Group
[04:24] <intelikey> guido_ i see you learn by the trial and reformat method also  :)
[04:24] <guido_> oh wow.. i was memorizing the numbers.. i wasn't aware chmod would accept letters... as i said.. i'm a foolish boy.. but it was SO fun..
[04:24] <guido_> actually, i was able to change it in the recovery console.. i wasn't gonna give this perfect install up!
[04:24] <fulld> on a new install I get 80% Xorg usage on an idle system
[04:25] <fulld> any clues?
[04:25] <mrkoje> guido_,  rwxrwxrwx.... somthing like that
[04:25] <fulld> *cpu usage
[04:25] <mrkoje> owner, group, user isn't it?
[04:25] <intelikey> guido_  type  "man man "   in a terminal
[04:25] <nowisn> says: (sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname)
[04:25] <dabaR> owner group everybody
[04:25] <Ophiocus> owner group other
[04:25] <guido_> Flash: I told my computer not to let me in to the files... everything came to a grinding halt..
[04:25] <dabaR> aka, owner group crackers
[04:26] <leather_n_luv> lol
[04:26] <intelikey> hehhe  owner group world   :)
[04:26] <Flashmatt22> ohhhhh!!!
[04:26] <guido_> yah.. i know how to learn how to do things right, but it's so much more fun to plunge into murky water...
[04:26] <mrkoje> right... owner group users
[04:26] <Flashmatt22> totally didn't see the "00" part of "700"!!!
[04:26] <mustard5> nowisn, sounds like you need to fix up your /etc/hosts file
[04:26] <Kyral> Owner Group Othert
[04:26] <ma5terdp> hay can anyone help me still haveing troubless!!!
[04:26] <ma5terdp> hay kyral i got a drive mounted but filesystem is read only how do i change it?
[04:26] <mrkoje> ma5terdp,  what troubles?
[04:27] <acidmoon> do you have multiple os's ?
[04:27] <Ophiocus> if filesystem is ntfs, you cant
[04:27] <dooglus__> Kyral: User Group Others is a better way to think of it - then you'll remember the letters to use ugo+rwx...
[04:27] <ma5terdp> its hfsplus
[04:27] <acidmoon> right Ophiocus
[04:27] <mlv2005> good day can i install an autocad here at ubuntu
[04:27] <intelikey> mount -o remount,rw </mount/point>
[04:27] <nowisn> yeah okay, holly crap i really don't know what i'm doing
[04:27] <Kyral> dooglus__: I actually prefer the Number system
[04:27] <nowisn> how do i do that
[04:27] <dooglus__> Kyral: me too
[04:27] <acidmoon> you may need to create a new partition and install again ma5terdp
[04:27] <ma5terdp> r u talkin to me intelikey
[04:27] <Flashmatt22> ok friends, I'm having a BIG problem with getting WEP to work with a WMP11v4 linksys wireless card!!!
[04:27] <dabaR> nowisn: do you know how to open a terminal, konsole, you use kde?
[04:28] <Flashmatt22> anyone get one of these working???
[04:28] <dooglus__> Kyral: chmod didn't used to accept letters when I first started using it...
[04:28] <mlv2005> can anybody help me can i install the autocad here at ubuntu
[04:28] <ma5terdp> i know the users name and password of filesystem cant i somehow log on it
[04:28] <leather_n_luv> ma5terdp, there are tools to download for ntfs. search for 'ntfs' in synaptic...
[04:28] <nowisn> yeah its open
[04:28] <ma5terdp> its not ntfs
[04:28] <ma5terdp> its hfs+
[04:28] <nowisn> not stupid
[04:28] <intelikey> yes  but i don't have all the info on your system ma5terdp
[04:28] <dabaR> nowisn: type "ifconfig" hit enter.
[04:28] <Flashmatt22> I'm completely out of ideas...the boards are helpful...to an extent
[04:28] <mrkoje> mlv2005,  you need to search for an autocad program on somthing like sourceforge or freshmeat
[04:28] <ma5terdp> ok intellikey its a mac osx
[04:28] <proxosi> can somone guide me on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90106
[04:29] <nowisn> don't get anything when i type that
[04:29] <mlv2005> what do you mean mrkoje
[04:29] <leather_n_luv> ma5terdp, oh, sorry.  what os is it?
[04:29] <ma5terdp> its /dev/hda2/ i got it mounted to /media/mac
[04:29] <dabaR> nowisn: ok.
[04:29] <intelikey> ma5terdp you asked how to make a fs mounted ro rw so i gave the command.
[04:29] <Xenguy> OK, a different question, has anyone here had luck installing a working citrix client on breezy/ubuntu ?
[04:29] <leather_n_luv> (damn i type slow
[04:29] <shanonx> can someone show me an example of how to change the permissions on a file?
[04:29] <leather_n_luv> )
[04:29] <dabaR> shanonx: man chmod
[04:29] <Xenguy> shanonx: chmod 700 directory
[04:29] <Kyral> shanonx: I think my Terminal FOr Beginners lays it out
[04:29] <Kyral> Xenguy: NO!!!
[04:29] <Xenguy> shanonx: chmod 600 file
[04:29] <Xenguy> Kyral: no what?
[04:29] <Kyral> Xenguy: Not that setup lol
[04:30] <ma5terdp> can u change permissions on a mount hda?
[04:30] <mrkoje> mlv2005, http://www.sourceforge.net  or http://www.freshmeat.net
[04:30] <wij> chmod -R -v 757 /home/user/myfile
[04:30] <Xenguy> Kyral: are you on crack?
[04:30] <shanonx> Kyral: yea Im looking at it but the tutoral doesnt really show a command example.
[04:30] <intelikey> shanonx 'man chmod '       example  'chmod 600 .bashrc '
[04:30] <Kyral> shanonx: It doesn't?
[04:30] <Kyral> shanonx: Hmm I should add one lol
[04:30] <Falstius> ma5terdp: yes, mount -t hfs -o remount,rw /dev/hda /mnt/spot
[04:30] <Kyral> shanonx: I thought I put one in
[04:30] <shanonx> kyral: it shows the number and breaks it down like... 750.. but no actual command line example.
[04:30] <Falstius> but I don't know if there is hfs write support
[04:31] <guido_> this is great.. this is the night of permissions!
[04:31] <Kyral> shanonx: Gmm I'll take care of it
[04:31] <Kyral> gimme a sec mkay?
[04:31] <oblib> How do I map drive from one Ubuntu computer to another?
[04:31] <nowisn> mustard how do i change or configure the /etc/hosts
[04:31] <oblib> mrkoje, I don't get nfs
[04:32] <guido_> shanon-- i just had my own exciting experience with chmod tonight.. be careful what you change!!!
[04:32] <shanonx> kyral: when I use this " sudo chmod -r -v 770 Backup
[04:32] <shanonx> " I get an error.. is it wrong?
[04:32] <ULffuntu> hi, does anybody here use webmin & xinetd?
[04:32] <Falstius> shanonx: -R not -r
[04:32] <ma5terdp> ok will that give me a non readonly filesystem hd?
[04:32] <Kyral> shanonx: and conbine the -r -v into -rv
[04:32] <nowisn> yes I've installed the kubuntu distro with KDE
[04:32] <shanonx> oh
[04:32] <intelikey> shanonx everything *nix is case sensitive
[04:33] <dabaR> nowisn: it has a man entry, if you feel like reading. man /etc/hosts
[04:33] <navarone> guido...dpkg reconfgiure x server thingy blew me out of the water tonight...sudo cp is handy command to have
[04:33] <shanonx> intelikey: yea so im slowly seeing :)
[04:33] <shanonx> I really thank all you guys for your help.
[04:34] <navarone> guido> I was trying to reconfigure to give myself refresh options for monitor. Things went bad...:)
[04:34] <guido_> do you have to sudo to run the configurator? i guess you would.. i tend to get to lazy and start sudo'ing everything... gets me in trouble!
[04:34] <Falstius> ma5terdp: what I wrote?  It should, if there is write support for it.
[04:34] <ma5terdp> ok quick question.... it says i am not owner so i cant
[04:34] <Falstius> ma5terdp: use sudo
[04:34] <Falstius> I am always forgetting to include sudo in my example commands.
[04:34] <navarone> guido>had to fix mouse then eventually simply cp'ed backup to default one...phew
[04:34] <Shady> I need a little guidance, synaptic says I have a program installed but it isn't in my applications menu, how do I put it there, where do I look?
[04:35] <dabaR> wow, eminem uses Ubuntu
[04:35] <Falstius> Shady, you can right click on "Applications" and select edit menu.
[04:35] <guido_> duh
[04:35] <proxosi> can somebody guide me http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90106
[04:35] <intelikey> shanonx actually   -R and 7 are not really such a good idea.  that makes all files executable.    dirs need to be executable but  html and other document files being executed may (and likely) cause problems.
[04:35] <guido_> slimshadybuntu
[04:35] <proxosi> guido_lol
[04:35] <Falstius> Shady: Then you have to find the program, it is probably  in /usr/bin
[04:35] <ma5terdp> is there a way i can enter a name and password of owner of filesystem on mount???
[04:36] <dabaR> Falstius: no, you need to ask, what program shady?
[04:36] <nowisn> got 127.0.0.1 localhost in the terminal
[04:36] <shanonx> inetlikey: oh... hmm... fixing this might be time consuming now...
[04:36] <dabaR> nowisn: for what?
[04:36] <Shady> dabaR, it's network manager.
[04:36] <dabaR> Shady: what is the package called in synaptic?
[04:37] <Kyral> shanonx: check now
[04:37] <nowisn> thats all it says
[04:37] <Shady> network-manager
[04:37] <guido_> to self: must stay and read ubuntu chat room... must not sleep... no need to go to work in the morning.... snow will come... must not fall asle...........
[04:37] <mlv2005> what is iptables can anybody explain
[04:37] <Falstius> ma5terdp: why do you need a user and password?
[04:37] <ajmitch> guido_: why read stuff here? sleep is good :)
[04:37] <dabaR> Shady: well, do you have smeg installed?
[04:37] <intelikey> shanonx this might help
[04:37] <Falstius> mlv2005: iptables lists and sets the rules for the firewall.
[04:38] <sdafjdif> hey can anyone help me out
[04:38] <mlv2005> oh i see where can i dowload a tutorial about it
[04:38] <sdafjdif> i tried to install inux
[04:38] <sdafjdif> *Ubuntu
[04:38] <Shady> dabaR, using it right now.
[04:38] <sdafjdif> i got a debootstrap error
[04:38] <sdafjdif> i had to abort
[04:38] <sdafjdif> and now when i turn on my computer
[04:38] <sdafjdif> it won't boot to windows
[04:38] <sdafjdif> or linux
[04:38] <Falstius> mlv2005: search on google for howto iptable
[04:38] <sdafjdif> but just a black screen
[04:38] <dabaR> Shady: are you able to add an entry yet?
[04:38] <fr500> hello
[04:38] <joedj> hey folks, i'm using kubuntu, why does it beep after i hold shift for 4sec or so?
[04:38] <guido_> ajwitch> this is my new soap opera... if i miss something i'll never be able to live with myself.. but if i don't sleep all those poor kids won't get their goofy guidance man tomorrow ... what a conundrubuntum.
[04:38] <fr500> has anyone followed the gdm vnc guide
[04:39] <fr500> it doesn't work for me :(
[04:39] <dabaR> sdafjdif: yes, it all got borked up, and the boot sector is screwed. repair mbr for windows, or try reinstalling Ubuntu.
[04:39] <ajmitch> guido_: this channel isn't nearly as interesting as some of the others
[04:39] <sdafjdif> dabar, how would i do that
[04:39] <intelikey> joedj loading the key buffer maybe ?
[04:39] <guido_> aj: this is my first taste of the crack.. i'll go more hard core one day
[04:40] <joedj> intelikey: loading the key buffer?
[04:40] <Shady> dabaR, I don't know what i'm look for truthfully. I've been on linux 3 days
[04:40] <Falstius> sdafjdif: find a windows98 boot disk (you can get them off the web), boot it and type fdisk /mbr
[04:40] <intelikey> joedj like holding any other key...
[04:40] <dabaR> sdafjdif: the first option? I dont know, I dont use windows any more, and the only time I had to do it, I decided not to, and reinstalled windows.(I had separate partitions for data and programs.
[04:40] <alekz> anyonw knows a package to mix music ?
[04:40] <proxosi> would renaming winamp skins to xmms extension.. will make it compatible with xmms?
[04:40] <joedj> intelikey: ah. no, i don't think it's that, KDE actually plays some weird sound file
[04:40] <ULffuntu> mlv2005: what was your question?
[04:40] <dabaR> Shady: you have smeg open?
[04:40] <guido_> wouldn't you try fixmbr before you fdisked? or am i not paying close enought attn?
[04:40] <intelikey> alekz audacity
[04:40] <sdafjdif> well i've got a Windows XP System Restore CD
[04:41] <ma5terdp> ok listen quick question people
[04:41] <alekz> intelikey, easy to use ?
[04:41] <sdafjdif> how would i get to the command prompt?
[04:41] <Falstius> alekz: there was a nice review on ArsTechnica a few weeks back comparing different music mastering software packages.
[04:41] <dabaR> alekz: a program with two turntables and a mixer?
[04:41] <ma5terdp> here is what i am using to mount i think it wrong
[04:41] <Falstius> sdafjdif: that won't do it.  you'll probably just destroy the system with it.
[04:41] <Shady> dabaR, yeah
[04:41] <sdafjdif> oh
[04:41] <alekz> yes dabaR xD
[04:41] <dabaR> sdafjdif: select to repair installation.
[04:41] <Falstius> beware the XP recovery CD.
[04:41] <ma5terdp> sudo mount /dev/hda2 -t hfsplus /media/mac
[04:41] <ma5terdp> is there a way to make it so its not just a read only
[04:41] <intelikey> alekz i don't do much multimedia so i really aint the one to ask...
[04:42] <Falstius> dabaR: every time I've done that it made the system virtually unusable or borked the registry.
[04:42] <sdafjdif> repair installation in the Ubuntu CD?
[04:42] <sdafjdif> i'm not really worried about getting ubuntu as of now.
[04:42] <sdafjdif> i'd like it...but right now, i just want to make sure all my stuff is still there win windows
[04:42] <sdafjdif> *in
[04:43] <nowisn> okay i open the shell konsole and i get christopher@ubuntu :~$ ,   then i type ifconfig and it just repeats back to the original above
[04:43] <ma5terdp> anyone???
[04:43] <Falstius> sdafjdif: does the computer have a floppy drive?
[04:43] <dabaR> alekz: I used mixxx
[04:43] <sdafjdif> yes it does
[04:43] <wij> ip addr
[04:43] <junior> Hello everyone.
[04:43] <ULffuntu> hi, does anybody here use webmin & xinetd?
[04:43] <alekz> dabaR, how cool is it ?
[04:44] <dabaR> alekz: it did what I wanted(I wanted to slow down a song.)
[04:44] <junior> just wondering if there is a nw802 module for ubuntu breezy badger?
[04:44] <shanonx> intelikey: so to use that script i need to be in my backup directory?
[04:44] <fr500> can i access an ltsp-server from a windows box?
[04:44] <dabaR> Shady: is there a add button
[04:44] <alekz> ok dabaR thanks
[04:44] <intelikey> nowisn in linux 'no error message' means 'no error'   and  'no output'  may or may not mean 'nothing done' depending on the command.
[04:44] <Falstius> sdafjdif: http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm
[04:44] <Falstius> go there, download one of those
[04:44] <ma5terdp> anyone konw the best way to mount a hda someone told me here funktown and it worked now it wont
[04:44] <intelikey> shanonx yeah
[04:45] <Shady> dabaR, yes
[04:45] <junior> mount /dev/hda1 /directory
[04:45] <ma5terdp> but i keep gettin a read only filesystem
[04:45] <intelikey> shanonx set all files 644 or something then run the script to make the dirs right.
[04:45] <shanonx> intelikey: what exatly does it do...?
[04:45] <russell__> can someone tell me how to use make command? I keep getting command not found
[04:45] <sdafjdif> Falstius, which one would i download?
[04:45] <ma5terdp> i need it to be rightable be able to move shit
[04:45] <junior> what kind of filesystem is it?
[04:45] <ma5terdp> hfsplus
[04:45] <shanonx> intelikey: ok
[04:45] <Falstius> sdafjdif: I'm not sure :)  Probably win98 oem
[04:45] <nowisn> ok
[04:45] <La_PaRCa> hey guys, im getting an error when I try to run ipodder: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/5534
[04:45] <russell__> it is 5.10
[04:45] <ma5terdp> funkytown gave me the correct command and i forgot it it worked once 2 day
[04:45] <dabaR> Shady: open a terminal, try typing in network-manager
[04:46] <junior> hfsplus? what os uses that?
[04:46] <Falstius> sdafjdif: you need one that includes fdisk
[04:46] <ma5terdp> mac x os
[04:46] <ledh> hey room!
[04:46] <alekz> dabaR, you installed from source ?
[04:46] <dabaR> alekz: ya, it had some dependencies, I think called jackd.
[04:46] <ledh> i wanna know what prog can i use to download music that's not too heavy on my pc...
[04:46] <Shady> dabaR, it says not found, but in synaptics it says installed.
[04:46] <Falstius> I don't have a floppy or windows, so not much use for a windows boot disk :)
[04:46] <dabaR> Shady: that is normal.
[04:46] <Flashmatt22> hey, I have the weirdest question ever, does anyone know how to install a Voodoo3 3dfx driver onto ubuntu?
[04:46] <intelikey> shanonx it fixes the directories recursively (actually chmod 777 them)  but leaves the files alone.   you can edit it to something like 751  or 700 or what ever you want......
[04:47] <dooglus> ledh: ftp is quite lightweight
[04:47] <oblib> Question: What's a good lightweight X www browser?
[04:47] <russell__> I am trying to get driver working for my wlan usb I have the driver but cant use the make command
[04:47] <fr500> has anyone followed the gdm vnc guide? doesn't work for me
[04:47] <nomasteryoda|w> dillo?
[04:47] <Falstius> Flashmatt22: it isn't automatically supported?
[04:47] <La_PaRCa> hey guys, im getting an error when I try to run ipodder: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/5534
[04:47] <junior> ok, you should do : mount /dev/hda1 -t hfs /directory
[04:47] <Flashmatt22> Falstius: well, I can't change the screen resolution from 640, so there must be something wrong
[04:47] <ledh> dooglus: how do i download it? :S
[04:47] <pat> How do I set a printer to share using Samba?
[04:47] <nomasteryoda|w> oblib, that was for you.... dillo is pretty good
[04:47] <dooglus> ledh: it's already installed I think
[04:48] <intelikey> shanonx i one time learned the hard way not to use chmod -R  and wrote that to help recover from blunders like that.
[04:48] <guido_> good bootdisk for NTFS and FAT(32) is Michael Au-Yeung's Pre-installation environment.. i use it for all kinds of stuff.. it's a bootable CD/DVD .. look on a torrent site...
[04:48] <ma5terdp> hfs dont work hfsplus does
[04:48] <ledh> dooglus: in Ubuntu?
[04:48] <dooglus> ledh: or wget or curl aren't heavy either
[04:48] <slashx1896> Hey all
[04:48] <Falstius> Flashmatt22: ahh. *shrug*
[04:48] <junior> so you do: mount /dev/hda1 -t hfsplus ?
[04:48] <ma5terdp> yup n it works
[04:48] <ma5terdp> i get a mount but its read only
[04:48] <ledh> what are the commands to download them?
[04:48] <oblib> nomasteryoda, I'll give it a whirl thanks
[04:49] <starscalling> eh
[04:49] <starscalling> whats this about a readonly mount?
[04:49] <pat> How do I set a printer to share using Samba?
[04:49] <dooglus> ledh: I think they're all already installed.  otherwise you can use synaptic package manager to get them
[04:49] <Flashmatt22> Falstius: I already downloaded some linux rpms...aliened it...then i did dpkg -i blah.deb, do you know what happened?
[04:49] <La_PaRCa> Whats the best tool to get podcasts in ubuntu?
[04:49] <Falstius> ma5terdp: can you type "mount" and paste the line for the hfsplus drive?
[04:49] <starscalling> ma5terdp?
[04:49] <intelikey> ledh wget ip.file
[04:49] <oblib> fr500, what are you trying to do?
[04:49] <starscalling> what are you mounting?
[04:49] <shanonx> intelikey: see... that Backup directory is actually on a drive that is Fat32 .. being shared by my windows and linux partitons... I wanted access to write so that I could add mp3s to it at times.
[04:49] <Flashmatt22> Falstius: I'm a newb to debian, I was using Fedora previously
[04:49] <starscalling> Flashmatt22 this is not debian
[04:49] <Falstius> Flashmatt22: aliened drivers?  That's got to be messy.
[04:49] <starscalling> this is ubuntu which is based on debian
[04:49] <fr500> oblib: xdmcp over vnc, so i can login from a vnc client for instance
[04:49] <starscalling> but is a valid fork from same :)
[04:49] <Flashmatt22> I konw it's not debian
[04:50] <starscalling> kay :D
[04:50] <ma5terdp> yeah im hreer
[04:50] <Flashmatt22> geez, isn't this stuff built on debian??
[04:50] <guido_> is "Sarge" the only "official" debian distro?
[04:50] <ma5terdp> here
[04:50] <intelikey> shanonx then you waste your time with chmod on fat anyway.   there is no permissions on that fs
[04:50] <Flashmatt22> I'm using ubuntu bottom line...so I wasn't supposed to use alien?
[04:50] <starscalling> again its a fork from it so you can usually use debian packages for things you cant get from ubuntu sources
[04:50] <fr500> oblib: this
[04:50] <Shady> dabaR, any ideas?
[04:50] <fr500> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76638
[04:50] <dooglus> guido_: no, there are older debian releases.  woody for example
[04:50] <junior> ma5terdp: do you get any errors when you thry to mount it?
[04:50] <ma5terdp> i need an extra option in the commmand to make it not and readonly
[04:50] <intelikey> shanonx mount it with umask=0  and you can read/write vfat
[04:50] <ledh> it doesn't word
[04:50] <ma5terdp> no errors when i mount it
[04:51] <guido_> yah - i just meant.. yeah..
[04:51] <starscalling> 99% of the time its ok to do
[04:51] <oblib> fr500, so it opens a new X session when you vnc in, or to get to the main one you have up already?
[04:51] <ledh> work*
[04:51] <Falstius> ma5terdp: have you tried writting to it using sudo?  try "sudo touch /mntpoint/testfile"
[04:51] <ma5terdp> it mounts i get it  but cant do anything 2 it
[04:51] <fr500> oblib: new one
[04:51] <Flashmatt22> Room: where do installed packages go...as in where are their folders located when I install a .deb package?
[04:51] <Falstius> ma5terdp: where /mntpoint is whereever you mount it.
[04:51] <intelikey> shanonx example  'sudo mount -o remount,rw,umask=0 backup '
[04:52] <starscalling> ma5terdp im sorry im catching up but what are you mounting exactly?
[04:52] <dooglus> Flashmatt22: they go wherever the package creator wants them to go.   dpkg -L <packagename>    will tell you where
[04:52] <guido_> g'nite all.
[04:52] <oblib> fr500, let me know if you figure it out, I've been trying to get that to work for a bit now
[04:52] <DjKritical> is there a teamspeak repostory avaliable for ubuntu?
[04:52] <pat> How do I set a printer to share using Samba?
[04:52] <fr500> oblib: that exact guide?
[04:53] <Flashmatt22> dooglus: Thanks, which brings me to another question, how do I install rpms without using alien, b/c I guess using alien didn't quite work
[04:53] <Falstius> Flashmatt22: you should really try to find .deb packages or compile from source.
[04:53] <oblib> fr500, no, I did a server install and was trying to get anything to come up. All I got was a twm session, which isn't very useful. I wanted something lighter than gnome though
[04:53] <fr500> hm
[04:53] <Shady> dabaR, Woah what the heck... it started up on its own? is that normal?
[04:54] <pat> How do I set a printer to share using Samba?
[04:54] <oblib> fr500, where are you stuck? what's it doing?
[04:54] <ledh> i wanna know what prog can i use to download music that's not too heavy on my pc...
[04:54] <Flashmatt22> Falstius: Thanks, but I don't have many options, it being a voodoo and everything...
[04:54] <La_PaRCa> Whats a good tool to listen to podcasts on ubuntu?
[04:54] <junior> just wondering if there is a nw802 module for ubuntu breezy badger?
[04:55] <junior> It's for my dlink quickcam
[04:55] <Falstius> Flashmatt22: I wouldn't think you'd need rpm based drivers for a voodoo card.  You could probably just tweak the xorg.conf file.
[04:55] <shanonx> intelikey: so should that fix all the damage i did ?
[04:55] <starscalling> Flashmatt22 what were u trying to install?
[04:55] <intelikey> shanonx yep
[04:55] <starscalling> o:
[04:55] <msims> how do I change the default Xresoultion I've done so for kde but gdm is small
[04:55] <oblib> Any nfs experts here? I mounted a share, and it only shares one level of files!
[04:56] <intelikey> shanonx you did no damage to permissions on a vfat fs ,     there are none.
[04:56] <starscalling> msims gdm uses system default res
[04:56] <Flashmatt22> Falstius:  Where can I find the xorg.conf file?
[04:56] <starscalling> do  " sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg "
[04:56] <Flashmatt22> starscalling: I was trying to get my voodoo3 video card working
[04:56] <starscalling> Flashmatt22
[04:56] <Falstius> Flashmatt22: it looks like the voodoo3 can't go above 640x480 with 24bit colors so you need to drop the color depth
[04:56] <starscalling> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:57] <intelikey> everything on vfat is rwxrwxrwx = 777  to linux.
[04:57] <Falstius> If you set the color depth to 16bit it should go higher.  Check this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75512.html
[04:57] <Flashmatt22> thnx
[04:57] <pat> no answer no joy
[04:57] <ardchoille> w00t!! My friend told me "the next time Windows crashes, you can install Linux", and Windows crashed
[04:57] <Trilom> *Need help*
[04:57] <ma5terdp> grrr anyone know funktown from in here?
[04:57] <Trilom> I am ready to install ubuntu
[04:57] <Trilom> but when i put the disks in they wont self boot
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[04:57] <shanonx> intelikey: .. oh i was just curious because after i did that, it would not allow me to view the directories inside.. after i did the 644 I mean.
[04:57] <Trilom> ive changed the boot order
[04:57] <Flashmatt22> wow, they actually have something like that on the forum?
[04:57] <starscalling> thats what debian has to say about voodoo
[04:58] <Falstius> er, fmask=111
[04:58] <Trilom> and tried 4 different disks
[04:58] <Trilom> Help?
[04:58] <ma5terdp> lol
[04:58] <jsubl2> La_PaRCa check out ipodder
[04:58] <intelikey> shanonx yeah but all you affected was the mount point.
[04:58] <Flashmatt22> thanx everyone
[04:58] <monkievox> trilom: what machine you installing on?
[04:58] <ma5terdp> hay falstius u still tehre
[04:58] <La_PaRCa> jsubl2, im having troubles starting it
[04:58] <Falstius> Flashmatt22: linux folks love old hardware
[04:58] <La_PaRCa> jsubl2,  hey guys, im getting an error when I try to run ipodder: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/5534
[04:58] <intelikey> chmod 755 backup and you've fixed it.
[04:59] <Falstius> ma5terdp: yes, but there is a very pretty woman who wants me to go to bed soon.
[04:59] <dabaR> Trilom: a PC?
[04:59] <starscalling> Trilom did you check bios boot options?
[04:59] <fr500> oblib: i did evrything, but it doesnt work at all
[04:59] <ma5terdp> lol i undertsand
[04:59] <Trilom> yes starscalling
[04:59] <oblib> fr500, but what does it do? do you have an xsession-errors or anything?
[04:59] <jsubl2> La_PaRCa, i am on dapper and i don't get that error
[04:59] <fr500> nothing
[04:59] <shanonx> intelikey: oh ok.. i couldnt get what you said about mount remount Backup to work, but I got it fixed... used "sudo mount -a" to reload my fstab
[04:59] <starscalling> then like they said what are you installing it on?
[04:59] <fr500> oblib: and if i run an nmap at that pc no vnc ports are open
[04:59] <Reload1691> anyone know of a good mp3 player for linux?
[04:59] <La_PaRCa> jsubl2, um
[05:00] <intelikey> shanonx do you have full access to the files now ?
[05:00] <jsubl2> La_PaRCa, but i am not recommending dapper it is unstable
[05:00] <oblib> fr500, so vncserver is not running then? Do you have it in the boot process somewhere?
[05:00] <La_PaRCa> jsubl2, I know :)
[05:01] <La_PaRCa> jsubl2, any idea?
[05:01] <dabaR> .msg ubotu info ipodder
[05:01] <fr500> oblib: it starts with xinetd i guess since there is nothing more in the howto
[05:01] <oblib> fr500, is the computer on the same network, or is it going through firewalls/routers?
[05:01] <jsubl2> La_PaRCa, no
[05:01] <Trilom> Help anyoen?
[05:01] <hd420> help!
[05:02] <fr500> oblib: same lan now
[05:02] <Falstius> g'night all
[05:02] <jsubl2> La_PaRCa, it starts for me.. iam trying to get a feed to play
[05:02] <monkievox> Trilom: how old is the machine you are installing on?
[05:02] <hd420> apache's being an arsehole
[05:02] <fr500> oblib: not that noob :p
[05:02] <dabaR> Trilom: is it a PC?
[05:02] <La_PaRCa> jsubl2, I can see one other post about the same issue on the forum, but no answers
[05:02] <hd420> hoary
[05:02] <oblib> fr500, lol. So can you try to start in manually on the server?
[05:03] <ma5terdp> anyone help me with an read-only filesystem error i get??/
[05:03] <fr500> how?
[05:03] <oblib> fr500, or look at processes and see if it's running
[05:03] <hd420> erver: 8:02pm % sudo apt-get install apache                  [/usr/local/conf] Reading package lists... DoneBuilding dependency tree... Doneapache is already the newest version.0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 6 not upgraded.1 not fully installed or removed.Need to get 0B of archives.After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.Setting up apache (1.3.33-4ubuntu1) ...dpkg: error processing apache (--configure): sub
[05:03] <fr500> i didnt see it
[05:03] <oblib> fr500, ps -e | grep vnc  to look. 'vncserver'
[05:03] <Goldfish> My /etc/resolv.conf file doesn't seem to be resolving anything. I can only get out on the internet by IP address. Router is okay, because my debian stations can get out.
[05:03] <shanonx> intelikey: yea i have full access ... but it seemed to make all my text fiels executables too..
[05:03] <oblib> fr500, vncserver by itself should start something
[05:03] <Goldfish> /etc/nsswitch.conf looks identical between both machines.
[05:03] <msims> damn I reconfigured xorg but it still wants to use the huge screen
[05:04] <dabaR> msims: put refresh rates for you rmonitor manually into the file.
[05:04] <Trilom> intel pent 2
[05:04] <cdubya> hi
[05:04] <jsubl2> La_PaRCa, it does work
[05:04] <Trilom> 448 mb of ram
[05:04] <Trilom> dell
[05:04] <shanonx> intelike: but everything seems to work ok.. so I guess its good..
[05:04] <Trilom> optiplex
[05:04] <monkievox> Trilom: you'll need to boot from floppy
[05:04] <dabaR> Trilom: turn off booting from anything but the cd.
[05:05] <fr500> oblib: let me do the whole thing again since i undid everything
[05:05] <Trilom> kk
[05:05] <ma5terdp> anyone know how to make and non read-only filesystem mount ????????
[05:05] <monkievox> Trilom: is that what you've been trying? or from CD?
[05:05] <shanonx> intelike: But Time for bed, for me.... thank you for all your help, Probably see you tomorrow when I take on some new things!
[05:05] <msims> dabaR: its fine once it listens to kde the problem is that gdm isn't fuckign listneing to the default and insists on using the largest res
[05:05] <Trilom> i got it set to boot from cd and if nothigns there then go to the drive
[05:05] <rossnolgrad> I installed curl with synaptic and cant find the app
[05:06] <monkievox> Trilom: old pcs sometimes have trouble booting from CD even though bios says they can.
[05:06] <dabaR> msims: you added the rates to the xorg.conf file?
[05:06] <Goldfish> Well, it's now working. I did /etc/init.d/network restart, and turned down my eth0 port (leaving just ath0 in the route table), and things are cooking.
[05:06] <Trilom> ok
[05:06] <Trilom> any suggestions?
[05:06] <msims> no I did the dpkg-reconfigure
[05:06] <monkievox> Trilom: you ever make boot floppies before?
[05:06] <La_PaRCa> jsubl2, so, am I SOL?
[05:06] <d03boy> !wget
[05:06] <ubotu> d03boy: I give up, what is it?
[05:06] <Trilom> i have one
[05:06] <jsubl2> La_PaRCa, yeah that would be my guess..
[05:07] <monkievox> Trilom: oh, well then give that a whirl :)
[05:07] <ma5terdp> is there something wrong with my mount that makes it an readonly mount??? sudo mount /dev/hda2 -t hfsplus /media/mac ????
[05:07] <d03boy> I would like to know the wget command to get the sources.list (a computer im' setting up only has shell)
[05:07] <ma5terdp> anyone???
[05:07] <oblib> Any nfs experts here? I mounted a share, and it only shares one level of files!
[05:07] <Trilom> ok
[05:07] <monkievox> masterdp: dunno, sorry
[05:07] <dabaR> ma5terdp: add options for read write.
[05:07] <cdubya> rossnolgrad, /usr/bin/curl
[05:07] <Citydog> !kernel
[05:08] <rossnolgrad> oh, I have to run it in terminal
[05:08] <hd420> why doesn't ubuntu give one detailed errors when apt fails to do its thing?
[05:08] <dabaR> hd420: haha.
[05:08] <ma5terdp> ok
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> hd420,  may as well ask why apt dosent. :P
[05:08] <dabaR> post the error you got to paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:08] <fr500> oblib: the grep thingy doesnt show anything
[05:08] <cdubya> heh
[05:08] <intelikey> shanonx yes that is what i've been saying, fat does not support unix file permissions.   the only thing that can be set is =/- w     the x and r can not be set.   and that is covered in the umask=   a umask=013 will make them not executable to group or world but owner has full access.   thing is the directories are masked same as files.  so fatfs for  a linux system is good only for short term, file transfer usage.
[05:09] <oblib> fr500, even after you type 'vncserver' ?
[05:09] <Hentai^XPwork> fat is good only for trasnferign between windows and unix
[05:09] <fr500> yes
[05:09] <hd420> 5537
[05:09] <ma5terdp> is that right fat chick
[05:09] <Goldfish> There we go. Now I am into this channel on my ubuntu laptop. Ubuntu is slick!
[05:09] <hd420> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5537
[05:10] <oblib> fr500, what does the terminal say when you run it?
[05:10] <Citydog> does anyone know a simple system monitoring utility for kde?  something that shows cpu and network utilization nothing fanzy
[05:10] <Hentai^XPwork> otherwise I would stick with ext3fs on ubuntu and NTFS on win NT based oses
[05:10] <monkievox> goldfish: you wireless?
[05:10] <hatred_> can someone point me at a url that has a decent repository list? my current set doesn't have mplayer or xine or anything..
[05:10] <Goldfish> Yup. Netgear wg511t (madwifi atheros chipset)
[05:10] <ma5terdp> i mean
[05:10] <joedj> Citydog: ksysguard is a simple one that has CPU and memory. i use gkrellm, even with KDE
[05:10] <Sneaky_Bastard> FAT = what you must trim from your life as soon as possible :p
[05:10] <_jason> ubotu, tell hatred_ about easysource
[05:11] <hatred_> thanks _jason
[05:11] <fr500> oblib: something about New 'laptop:1 (root)' desktop is laptop:1
[05:11] <monkievox> goldfish: nuts. my intel 2200 bs won't work
[05:11] <chalcedony> does someone want to tell me how to get a command prompt?
[05:11] <_jason> chalcedony, accessories -> terminal
[05:11] <intelikey> Sneaky_Bastard hehhe   yeah right.
[05:11] <ma5terdp> hay is this how u add the option read write to cmd?? sudo mount /dev/hda2 -o rw -t hfsplus /media/mac
[05:12] <d03boy> I am in a terminal computer and I need to use wget to download a valid sources.list. Does anyone know of a file that is already saved somewhere that I can easily get?
[05:12] <hatred_> should I go for breezy or hoary? last time i checked breezy was still experimental stuff
[05:12] <quacker> chalcedony, you might as well just call <sigh>
[05:12] <fr500> oblib: but i started it form an open gdm
[05:12] <intelikey> ma5terdp yep
[05:12] <quacker> But first try Ctrl+Alt+F1 to F6
[05:12] <slashx1896> is it true runnig ubuntu u cant get viruses?
[05:13] <intelikey> !repos
[05:13] <cdubya> heh
[05:13] <ubotu> hmm... repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[05:13] <oblib> fr500, can you post HOME/.vnc/laptop:1.log to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:13] <joedj> slashx1896: no, it's a _lot_ less likely though
[05:13] <intelikey> d03boy ^
[05:13] <hd420> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5537
[05:13] <d03boy> that will give me HTML right?
[05:13] <d03boy> i dont want html
[05:13] <Goldfish> I have ubuntu on my laptop. I am also trying to get a new wireless card into my mythtv box, but not doing too well there.
[05:13] <quacker> slashx1896, that's not true, but it's far, far, far less likely than i Doze
[05:13] <slashx1896> alrite, ive done things that i normaly get viruses from.. now i dont
[05:13] <hatred_> slashx1896 almost. you can't get windows viruses, and linux viruses are few, far between and almost unheard of
[05:13] <quacker> In Linux yah basically only gotta worry about rootkits
[05:13] <intelikey> d03boy open it with links/lynx or even vim
[05:14] <d03boy> thats a lot of wokr when I dont know ho to copy/paste
[05:14] <slashx1896> im new with ubuntu and stil gotta alot to learn lol
[05:14] <chalcedony> i feel lost .. HOW do i find accessories to find terminal?
[05:14] <d03boy> i dont want &nbsblabla; shit
[05:14] <_jason> chalcedony, applications menu
[05:14] <d03boy> i know there is a wget command becuase ive used it
[05:14] <monkievox> chalcedony: are you looking at the gui?
[05:14] <intelikey> d03boy got gpm ?
[05:14] <quacker> chalcedony, are you running kubuntu on Craig's machine now?
[05:14] <quacker> =oD
[05:15] <chalcedony> quacker: HUGGLES
[05:15] <dabaR> hd420: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:15] <slashx1896> my friends keep pisin me off that i got ubuntu that its gay and a waste of time :\  i dissagree... and they hate it because it doesnt have limewire
[05:15] <d03boy> gpm?
[05:15] <chalcedony> quacker: yes we gave up win2k
[05:15] <Goldfish> intelikey: That sounds like a bumper sticker!!  "Got gpm?" Hmm....could release something like "Got ubuntu?" I guess not too man people would get it, ehh?
[05:15] <d03boy> i dont know
[05:15] <La_PaRCa> ok
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> slashx1896,  thers limewire for ubuntu.
[05:15] <slashx1896> gnutella..
[05:15] <Hentai^XPwork> got system?
[05:15] <La_PaRCa> cant get ipodder to run.
[05:15] <hd420> dabaR: same error, mate
[05:15] <slashx1896> sux...
[05:15] <_jason> ubotu, tell slashx1896 about limewire
[05:15] <chalcedony> and yes it's a gui and no neither of us has clue 1
[05:15] <quacker> That sounds like a step forward.
[05:15] <chalcedony> it does not look like debian gnome.
[05:15] <cdubya> heh, of all things to get called that for....limewire...
[05:15] <cdubya> he
[05:15] <fr500> oblib:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5538
[05:15] <cdubya> heh
[05:16] <slashx1896> o.o so  i dont have to use gnutella?
[05:16] <dabaR> slashx1896: there is limewire for gnu/linux systems, and limewire sucks, there is a better free program
[05:16] <intelikey> Goldfish i don't console without gpm  :)
[05:16] <quacker> Do you see a little K-superimposed over gears button?
[05:16] <ledh> how do i install JAVA?
[05:16] <quacker> click it
[05:16] <Tired_> Hello.  I'm trying to find some kind of documentation on how to set up a heavily stripped down Ubuntu box, and google isn't helping...any pointers?
[05:16] <ledh> i need it for limewire... =(
[05:16] <La_PaRCa> Having trouble running iPodder, any help appreciated: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/5534
[05:16] <dabaR> hd420: sudo dpkg --remove --force apache
[05:16] <slashx1896> dabaR like?
[05:16] <chalcedony> quacker: Ha! upper left hand corner where the footprint is in gnome?
[05:17] <quacker> okayu, yoiu've booted Gnome -- use that button then
[05:17] <dabaR> slashx1896: it is called gtk-gnutella, and limewire can wish it was ok like that.
[05:17] <cdubya> heh
[05:17] <slashx1896> o.O
[05:17] <cdubya> yeah
[05:17] <slashx1896> dabaR: i think gnutella sux
[05:17] <oblib> fr500, where is the guide you used?
[05:17] <Tired_> I want to remove all the services and such that aren't needed for the purpoise of the box, which is video playback.
[05:17] <ledh> x_x
[05:17] <chalcedony> found it .. accessories, termial .. quacker the goal was to get Abiword
[05:17] <dabaR> slashx1896: why is limewire better?
[05:17] <intelikey> !start a desktop war
[05:17] <ubotu> kde is much better than windowmaker!
[05:17] <Trilom> ahh
[05:17] <ledh> well... i wanna download music... that's all...
[05:17] <hd420> dabaR: server: 8:17pm % sudo dpkg --remove --force apache                          [~] 
[05:17] <hd420> dpkg: unknown force/refuse option `apache'
[05:17] <slashx1896> dabaR: i can barly get many songs..., and when i run it i cant use the interent.. last time i ran it my whole house lost internet except for gnutella...
[05:17] <Trilom> it wouldnt boot the boot disk either
[05:18] <ledh> can anyone help me out?
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> Tired_,  i saw a forum/wiki thread about that just the otehr day. on the ubuntu site.
[05:18] <fr500> oblib: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76638
[05:18] <quacker> chalcedony, you can put your taskbar anywhere, but the default location is bottom left after a Kubuntu install (gee wonder where they got that idea form... heh)
[05:18] <monkievox> Trilom: hmmm
[05:18] <dabaR> slashx1896: ok.
[05:18] <Tired_> Thanks...I'll search there.  :)
[05:18] <slashx1896> dabaR: when i run it all my internet focuses on gnutella and i cant serf the web or use irc or gaim or anything
[05:18] <hatred_> slashx1896; lartc.org ;)
[05:18] <oblib> fr500, what is 'mobile3'?
[05:18] <cdubya> !javadebs
[05:18] <ubotu> it has been said that javadebs is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[05:18] <monkievox> Trilom: any errors? or it just goes straight to hard drive?
[05:18] <quacker> chalcedony, Abiword is under the 'Office' menu
[05:18] <fr500> oblib: my computer name
[05:18] <Trilom> just loads the HDD
[05:18] <slashx1896> huh?
[05:18] <dabaR> hd420: sudo dpkg --force --remove apache
[05:19] <Goldfish> On synaptic, what does the "supported" ubuntu icon signify?
[05:19] <monkievox> Trilom: and this is after setting boot order in BIOS to floppy first, yes?
[05:19] <quacker> Unless you change it or it's not installed (installs by default with ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu)
[05:19] <Trilom> yeah i done that
[05:19] <ledh> -__________-U
[05:19] <cdubya> ledh, that help?
[05:19] <ledh> nope
[05:19] <ledh> x_x
[05:19] <monkievox> goldfish: i got synaptic on my hp laptop working good
[05:19] <ledh> i know nothing about Linux
[05:19] <monkievox> Trilom: hmmm ... what's on that hard drive right now?
[05:19] <ledh> -.-U
[05:19] <d03boy> <-- needs a wget command and a link to a sources.list (without html) so that I can put it on a system without GUI
[05:20] <Trilom> what you mean?
[05:20] <Trilom> its Windows 98 SE
[05:20] <monkievox> TRilom: is it booting to an existing OS? or is it a blank new drive?
[05:20] <quacker> Goldfish, it tells you that the package is found in the main repository for your version
[05:20] <ma5terdp> hay..;....
[05:20] <ma5terdp> isnt working!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:20] <monkievox> Trilom: right
[05:20] <Trilom> the existing OS
[05:20] <oblib> fr500, computer is the server or client?
[05:20] <fr500> oblib: server
[05:20] <quacker> I.e. breezy as  opposed to breezy-backports for Ubuntu 5.10] 
[05:20] <monkievox> Trilom: you're not p[lanning on a dual boot are oyu?
[05:21] <Goldfish> monkievox: synaptic kicks butt. I am pretty good with apt-get, if I know what I'm looking for. However, if I need to find something, synaptic is handy.
[05:21] <Trilom> thats what im wanting to do
[05:21] <Tired_> how usable is Ubuntu on a low-powered system...say, headless, 32MB RAM, Cel 333, no X...?
[05:21] <dabaR> wget http://www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list but hoary, change the hoary words to breezy
[05:21] <ma5terdp> hay can someone help i get thiss error
[05:21] <Trilom> but i got 2 hdd's
[05:21] <Trilom> so it wont be too hard
[05:21] <Goldfish> monkievox: but installing the ubuntu package search engine in firefox is cool!
[05:21] <d03boy> thankks
[05:21] <fr500> oblib: normal vnc (remote desktop in the menu) works just fine
[05:21] <quacker> Tired, Breezy badger needs 128 MB minimum!
[05:21] <quacker> Dunno what Hoary Hedgehog requires
[05:21] <dabaR> $20
[05:22] <monkievox> Trilom: well, i was going to suggest wiping out that drive completely.  but if you want to keep the win98 on there.... i dunno.
[05:22] <ma5terdp> hay here is what i get
[05:22] <ma5terdp> ubuntu@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ sudo mv 1.nonx /media/mac/
[05:22] <ma5terdp> mv: cannot create regular file `/media/mac/1.nonx': Read-only file system
[05:22] <oblib> fr500, the guide looks like it creates the vnc session when you try to access the port. You have tried doing a vnc client to port 5901?
[05:22] <fr500> yes
[05:22] <fr500> doesnt work
[05:22] <Trilom> im installing it onto a formatted
[05:22] <Trilom> hdd
[05:22] <dabaR> Tired_: you can use the command line, if you want. or a ow end window manager. Try openbox.
[05:22] <hd420> ok... dabar, sudo dpkg --remove --force apache worked
[05:22] <Trilom> my C dricve has windows
[05:22] <hatred_> Tired_ ubuntu isn't really designed to run on headless boxes i think.. maybe debian or arch or some other distro would suit your purposes better?
[05:22] <ledh> can anyone lend me a hand around here? I need the commands to get the JAVA thing installed... i wanna download music!
[05:22] <Trilom> my D is going to house ubuntu
[05:22] <Tired_> so, I take it Ubuntu is a bad choice for a small router/NAS box...?
[05:22] <chalcedony> quacker: .. ill look in office, thank you .. i'm having trouble getting my box to print from abiword on debian.
[05:22] <ledh> ToT
[05:22] <Goldfish> Strange, I had to load ntp-server. I figured that sort of thing would have been in the standard install package. Well, I got tired of booting this computer into September 2004. :)
[05:23] <quacker> Is Zeph still 'on strike'?
[05:23] <fr500> oblib: it's like the server doesnt start
[05:23] <dabaR> Tired_: you would have to install with server option on the install boot screen, and then install something like openbox to see.
[05:23] <hatred_> Tired_ ubuntu is based on debian
[05:23] <monkievox> Trilom: yeah, i've had trouble on older machines trying to boot up on anything when the HDD has a windows OS already on it.
[05:23] <cdubya> ledh, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java?action=show&redirect=AddingJavaSupport
[05:23] <Goldfish> Tired_: Our mlinux.org club met and played with hacking a linksys router with a linux platform. THAT is cool.
[05:23] <hd420> still no go, dabaR
[05:23] <Tired_> yes, but with better docs
[05:23] <bob2_> ubuntu runs fine on headless boxes
[05:23] <oblib> fr500, what do you put as the destination in the client?
[05:23] <chalcedony> quacker: craig's box has Open Office but not abiword at all
[05:23] <navarone> Is anyone using a Xubuntu install? And how is it compared to gnome?
[05:23] <dabaR> hd420: ok, hd420 Im gl;ad it worked, and now it didnt, what aree you saying?
[05:23] <fr500> ip address :5901
[05:24] <bob2_> it's the same as ubuntu, but with xfce4.  if you don't know what it's like, try it
[05:24] <hd420> I was able to remove, but still can't install
[05:24] <fr500> oblib: or mobile3:1 since its a windows pc
[05:24] <hatred_> Tired_ if you want good docs, go with gentoo, though the install would be rather tedious on a slower system
[05:24] <cafuego> navarone: More spartan, less resource hungry, not as pretty.
[05:24] <monkievox> Trilom: if you really want to waste some time, you could wipe that drive completely, see if ubuntu will install afterwards, then install win98 after that.  but i don't know what that win98 install will do to your ubuntu install.
[05:24] <Trilom> what do you suggest?
[05:24] <Tired_> i'm actually just moving away from gentoo...
[05:24] <fr500> oblib: but trying  from the local machine doesnt work either
[05:24] <bob2_> any plan that involves using gentoo for it's docuemtnation is doomed
[05:24] <ledh> I don't get... someone told me i should use Linux cos it was much lighter than WinX... and honestly... i can't tell the difference... :S
[05:24] <Trilom> nah
[05:24] <ledh> IT*
[05:24] <monkievox> Trilom: :)
[05:24] <quacker> chalcedony,  $ sudo apt-get install [package name]   works just like in Debian
[05:24] <Trilom> dont want to do that
[05:25] <ma5terdp> anyone know about this error i am getting ??? ubuntu@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ sudo mv 1.nonx /media/mac/
[05:25] <ma5terdp> mv: cannot create regular file `/media/mac/1.nonx': Read-only file system
[05:25] <Hentai^XPwork> ledh it can be
[05:25] <oblib> fr500, have you ever done 'ipaddress:port:display'?  (or is it :display:port)
[05:25] <Tired_> i need docs that explain concepts, not step-by-step rote memory.
[05:25] <Hentai^XPwork> ledh esp if you do LFS
[05:25] <oblib> fr500, so ipaddress:1:5901
[05:25] <Goldfish> ledh: I just loaded ubuntu onto a 5-year old laptop with a Celeron 433 processor. Believe me, XP would not run on this thing in any fashion. However ubuntu is kicking butt. I just need to upgrade the RAM.
[05:25] <dabaR> bob2_: do you know why I get a error:could not open /var/run/utmp: No such process error when creating new screens in gnu screen, and as a result a small delay?
[05:25] <chalcedony> Tired_: *hugs* .. boy do i understand you :)
[05:25] <Hentai^XPwork> LFS = Linux From Scratch ledh
[05:25] <hatred_> ma5terdp it means your trying to write to a read only filesystem
[05:25] <dabaR> bob2_: or more importantly, how to fix.
[05:25] <monkievox> Trilom: just out of curiosity, if you made a win98 rescue disk, will it boot to that? or sidestep it to the HD?
[05:25] <fr500> oblib: doesnt work
[05:25] <navarone> bob cafuego...have tried the xfce theme and xfce from sessions...but was wondering whata  straight xfce install would run like. I like the xfce look...but getting everything in order like menus items and such
[05:25] <Trilom> HD
[05:25] <Tired_> chalcedony -> thanks.  you're one up on me then  :P
[05:25] <ledh> ESP? o,O
[05:25] <Trilom> tried the  rescue disks too lol
[05:26] <bob2_> ledh: that someone was clueless, sadly; ignore them
[05:26] <dabaR> Tired_: what concepts?
[05:26] <quacker> chalcedony, or use 'Start button' --> 'system' --> 'Synaptic (Package Manager)'
[05:26] <monkievox> Trilom: it won't even boot to a win98 rescue disk?
[05:26] <bob2_> dabaR: does it exist?
[05:26] <Trilom> yup
[05:26] <ledh> n_n
[05:26] <bob2_> ma5terdp: that error seems clear
[05:26] <Tired_> well, the biggest problem I have is what kernel options to select for my weird systems.
[05:26] <dabaR> the file itself exists. I tried playing with permissions, and that did not help.
[05:26] <bob2_> Tired_: the ubuntu kernel doesn't oot?
[05:26] <bob2_> ma5terdp: /media/mac/ is mounted read-only
[05:26] <oblib> fr500, you ran vncserver on the client (laptop) or the server (computer)?
[05:26] <monkievox> Trilom: and the rescue disk was made recently with win98 on that machine? ie, you know the floppy works in win98?
[05:26] <bob2_> ma5terdp: perhaps it's hfs
[05:26] <hatred_> Tired_ after you make a few kernels you get the hang of it :)
[05:26] <Trilom> yeah
[05:27] <monkievox> Trilom: dang.  got me.
[05:27] <Tired_> i haven't tried it yet....i am still evaluating whther it'll meet my needs
[05:27] <quacker> chalcedony, And unless you've created a root password, you will need to give your USER password since Ubuntu doesn't have one by default
[05:27] <fr500> oblib: server of course
[05:27] <bob2_> Tired_: in the time you've spent discussing it, yo ucould have installed it already
[05:27] <hatred_> Tired_ i just made a new kernel for this lappy this morning.. 2.6.14.3 runs very nicely when its customised for the system :D
[05:27] <bob2_> Tired_: and seen whether it worked
[05:27] <oblib> fr500, and what you pasted is from the server, right?
[05:27] <Trilom> :(
[05:27] <Tired_> but how do you learn how to customize it?
[05:27] <ledh> C'MON YOU GUYS!! now i have to BUILD the whole JAVA thing? x_x
[05:27] <Trilom> any one else you know i could talk to?
[05:27] <bob2_> Tired_: to customise what?
[05:27] <fr500> oblib: yes
[05:27] <Tired_> other than trial and error?
[05:27] <bob2_> ledh: no, don't be silly
[05:27] <Tired_> the kernel
[05:28] <bob2_> Tired_: why would you bother customising the kernel?
[05:28] <hatred_> Tired_ good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement
[05:28] <Tired_> since I have non-standard hardware
[05:28] <ledh> there's a link someone gave me... it says that...
[05:28] <oscar> hopefully someone can help me
[05:28] <monkievox> Trilom: yeah, i dunno.  sorry man.
[05:28] <bob2_> Tired_: that is a useless definition, it's highly likely the kernel will just work
[05:28] <ledh> can't you tell i'ma newwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwby? o.O
[05:28] <Trilom> its alright
[05:28] <navarone> btw...just had to kill another instance of me on server. Nickserv's ghost is hadny...lol
[05:28] <hatred_> bob2_ because the kernel that this ubuntu install came with didn't have any cpu frequency scaling support in it :/
[05:28] <Tired_> it will detect my scsi software raid, my multiprocessors, etc?
[05:29] <oblib> fr500, well the only thing I can see weird is it says created server for screen 0, and then it errors trying to open display 'mobile3:1'
[05:29] <dabaR> bob2_: the file itself exists. I tried playing with permissions, and that did not help. (in the likely case this scrolled by you, I forgot to prepend with nick.)
[05:29] <bob2_> hatred_: yes it does.  perhaps it doesn't support your particular cpu?
[05:29] <bob2_> Tired_: hahaha scsi software raid
[05:29] <oscar> my time, on the desktop, in upper roght hand corner show to be Fri Dec 9 4:27am
[05:29] <fr500> oblib: maybe because i started after an xserver was started?
[05:29] <bob2_> Tired_: if you want smp support, install the -smp kernel and reboot
[05:29] <oblib> fr500, seems like it should be trying to open :1.  Run 'vncserver :1' and let me know if that cahnges anything
[05:29] <bob2_> dabaR: who owns it?
[05:29] <luisito> where can I find Uplash themes?
[05:29] <ma5terdp> hay i did this do i need 2 make another folder??
[05:29] <monkievox> Trilom: you can keep asking these guys!
[05:29] <oscar> but my real time is 10.29pm
[05:29] <Tired_> why hahaha?
[05:29] <luisito> where can I find Usplash themes?
[05:29] <oscar> and my date here is Dec 8
[05:29] <nifelseki> uhhhhhmmm.. guys.. how do i reverse changes done by apt-get
[05:30] <dabaR> bob2_: root. permissions are fine for owner and group. I added myself to the group(utmp) no changes.
[05:30] <oscar> my time zone is set right
[05:30] <bob2_> Tired_: if you're using md or whatever, then I gather that just works
[05:30] <bob2_> nifelseki: be more specific
[05:30] <dooglus> nifelseki: apt-get
[05:30] <fr500> oblib: same thing same log
[05:30] <bob2_> dabaR: dunno then, sorry
[05:30] <oscar> and when I open "adjust time"
[05:30] <oscar> it show correct time
[05:30] <bob2_> ledh: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[05:30] <Trilom> alright
[05:30] <oblib> fr500, you want log with :1 on it now
[05:30] <hatred_> bob2_ the kernel i made this morning gets to init in about 2 seconds flat, and the savage framebuffer console actually works.. the kernel that came with this was like 9 months old
[05:30] <oscar> I found it!
[05:30] <Tired_> ok.  you've convinced me.  i'll try installing and see how it goes.
[05:30] <oscar> my comp was set to
[05:30] <oscar> use UTC
[05:31] <Trilom> X*X* NEed help : I need help getting my ShipIt discs to boot up, ive tried alot of things, please help
[05:31] <oscar> what is "UTC"
[05:31] <fr500> oblib: i started like that (vncserver :1)
[05:31] <navarone> omg...I had to kill ghost cos I had opened chat in another desktop and it was running already in another desktop...lol
[05:31] <Tired_> thanks for the advice and the links, and for the free OS.
[05:31] <bob2_> Trilom: please stop it
[05:31] <bob2_> Trilom: if you have a specific question, ask
[05:31] <dabaR> bob2_: that is ok, it is just a 1 second delay -- ages
[05:31] <bob2_> hatred_: 2.6.12?
[05:31] <Trilom> Ok
[05:31] <oblib> but look at .vnc/media3:1.log
[05:31] <oblib> or whatever
[05:31] <Trilom> Well i need help getting my shipit discs to work, ive tried Changing the BIOS and it doesnt work, im sure my drive is ok
[05:31] <hatred_> bob2_ 2.6.8.1 it was.. now running 2.6.14.3 quite happily
[05:31] <cdubya> ledh, if you want, you can install java in synaptic as long as you've got multiverse enabled.....open synaptic and search for j2re, then install that.....
[05:32] <bob2_> Trilom: you're being way way too vague
[05:32] <Trilom> wondering if anyone has anyideas what else i can do to get them to boot
[05:32] <giloth> hello everyone :)
[05:32] <bob2_> hatred_: 2.6.8.1 is in warty, which is from october 2004; why arent you using breezy?
[05:32] <fr500> oblib: thats the only log that exists as before
[05:32] <navarone> Trilom what changes can you make to bios in regard to boot order?
[05:32] <oblib> fr500, and it's identical?
[05:32] <Trilom> ok you have to set your drive to boot from a disk, i set it to boot from a disc and it doest boot
[05:32] <fr500> oblib: yes
[05:32] <bob2_> Trilom: you mean "I configured the BIOS to boot the CD, but it appears to just boot into windows as usual"?
[05:32] <oscar> is what I'm typing visible?
[05:33] <oscar> someone please answer
[05:33] <ledh> bob2_ i'm not using breezy...
[05:33] <Trilom> bob2_ Yeah
[05:33] <bob2_> ledh: why?
[05:33] <ledh> i'm on Hoary
[05:33] <navarone> yes
[05:33] <hatred_> bob2_ this isn't my machine.. friend had the warty cd, and dialup makes updating rather prohibitive. if it was my machine it would have gentoo on it
[05:33] <bob2_> hatred_: ouch
[05:33] <fr500> oblib: nevermind, i got pissed already
[05:33] <monkievox> bob2: Trilom has an old dell optiplex, P2.
[05:33] <bob2_> hatred_: basing comments to people considering breezy on that experience seems a little disngenious, tho
[05:33] <oblib> fr500, I think you're right that the vnc server is not starting up right, but I don't know why. Sorry I couldn't help
[05:33] <fr500> oblib: i'll try tomorrow :p
[05:33] <bob2_> Trilom: does it boot other cds ok?
[05:33] <fr500> no prob
[05:33] <oblib> fr500, I know the feeling
[05:33] <oblib> gl
[05:33] <giloth> whats the command to restart the sound system?
[05:33] <cge> Is there an intuitive (without gconf-editor) way to add folders to the Places menu and sidebar?
[05:33] <Trilom> like games and stuff yeah
[05:34] <fr500> next one, has anyone been able to compile the new banshee in breezy?
[05:34] <bob2_> giloth: which part?
[05:34] <fr500> !sources
[05:34] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:34] <bob2_> Trilom: you've booted game cds?
[05:34] <bob2_> Trilom: or do you mean you can acces them under windows ok?
[05:34] <giloth> bob2_, I'm not sure really, lol... i'm assuming alsa?
[05:34] <Trilom> the second one
[05:34] <bob2_> giloth: there's nothing to "restart" then
[05:34] <bob2_> Trilom: that's entirely unrelated
[05:34] <ledh> cdubya how do i enable the multiverse?
[05:34] <bob2_> Trilom: can you boot your windows cd?
[05:34] <Trilom> i dont know
[05:34] <Trilom> yeah
[05:34] <hatred_> bob2_ you got me there.. i'm just not a fan of binary distros anymore, having fought with so many of them
[05:35] <bob2_> Trilom: try it again, now
[05:35] <bob2_> if you have to fight, it's a bug
[05:35] <monkievox> Trilom: please :)
[05:35] <Trilom> alright
[05:35] <oblib> Any nfs experts here? I mounted a share, and it only shares one level of files!
[05:35] <giloth> bob2_, hmmm... well for some reason there is no sound coming out right now... i THINK it's using alsa, but am not sure
[05:35] <bob2_> if you're used to redhat, debian and ubuntu are a different world
[05:35] <cdubya> ledh, you can go to Settings in synaptic, then add, then check non-free (multiverse).....
[05:36] <bob2_> since you can generally unfuck things that are broken in the development version, and they shouldn't ever be broken in a stable release
[05:36] <bob2_> giloth: so what would "restarting", if there was such a thing achieve? it sounds like the correct alsa modules aren't being loaded, or that ESD or something has seized control of the sound device.
[05:36] <cdubya> ledh, settings > repositories > add > non-free (multiverse)
[05:36] <bob2_> e.g. fuser -v /dev/dsp
[05:36] <giloth> bob2_, hmm.. now it's playing... sorry about wasting your time :p
[05:37] <hatred_> bob2_ its more the chronic dependency issues that I end up fighting with.. eg; how easy is it to install kde in ubuntu without arts support, since arts is so terrible?
[05:37] <bob2_> giloth: np
[05:37] <ledh> bob2_ cos when i upgrade it,.. i had troubles with the keyboard... i could log in at all...
[05:37] <hatred_> bob2_ but this is about to become a distro war, so let's leave it there :)
[05:37] <bob2_> hatred_: install kde. tell it to not use arts in kcontrol. drink beer.
[05:38] <bob2_> yeah, fair enough
[05:38] <giloth> now back to the question i originally came to ask :) i've been wanting to get involved with bash shell scripting, but didn't know if there was a howto located anywhere
[05:38] <bob2_> giloth: tldp.org, advanced bash howto
[05:38] <bob2_> also #bash
[05:38] <Trilom> didnt work
[05:39] <giloth> bob2_, thanks, but is there a beginner guide rather than a advanced one?
[05:39] <dabaR> bob2_: we try installing apache on this ubuntu system, and we get an error, posted under hd420 on paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:39] <hatred_> giloth; the bootscripts in /etc/init.d/ provide a few examples.. there are numerous programs that are written in bash too.. file `which someprogram` is your friend
[05:39] <ledh> cdubya ... done! now? =(
[05:39] <bob2_> Trilom: the windows cd didn't work? then your bios settings are broken or the drive is damaged.
[05:39] <monkievox> Trilom: wow. weird.
[05:39] <bob2_> dabaR: I'd be using apache2
[05:39] <Mostro>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[05:39] <giloth> thank you hatred_
[05:39] <Trilom> ok well ive been meaning to put my other drive in
[05:39] <Mostro> can people see me now
[05:40] <Trilom> one sec brb
[05:40] <bob2_> dabaR: make the second line of /var/lib/dpkg/info/apache.postinst be "set -x"
[05:40] <navarone> Trilom, and if that's the case you should get repair/new one before you need to reinstall windows...<s>
[05:40] <bob2_> dabaR: then 'dpkg --confogure -a'
[05:40] <bob2_> spelt corectly
[05:40] <Mostro>  /msg nickserv identify YOURPASSWORD
[05:40] <bob2_> ...
[05:40] <dabaR> bob2_: why now that? Out of curiosity.
[05:41] <Mostro>  /msg nickserv identify test
[05:41] <bob2_> dabaR: why which bit?
[05:41] <bob2_> Mostro: please?
[05:41] <navarone> Mostro, AAre you asking for help with something?
[05:41] <dabaR> bob2_: the change of the script.
[05:41] <Mostro> yes, I forgot my password
[05:41] <bob2_> dabaR: to force it to print wtf it's doing
[05:42] <navarone> wb Mostro
[05:42] <Mostro>  /msg nickserv identify pleaseletmein
[05:42] <dabaR> bob2_: we will try apache2 first, perhaps.
[05:42] <jl0gik> does anyone know how to run sudo inside a script?
[05:42] <monkievox> :)
[05:42] <chris86wm> hey guys, im interested in trying out fluxbox. how do i stop gnome and set fluxbox to start up?
[05:43] <bob2_> jl0gik: to do what?
[05:43] <jl0gik> iwconfig ath0 "xxx" then dhclient ath0 in one shot
[05:43] <bob2_> chris86wm: install xephyr, run 'Xephyr :1 -ac&' in a terminal, then 'export DISPLAY=:1 ; fluxbox&'
[05:43] <mr_daemon> Hello everyone
[05:43] <bob2_> jl0gik: why not just setup /etc/network/interfaces correctly?
[05:44] <jl0gik> <-- noob doesnt know
[05:44] <Mostro> wb
[05:44] <bob2_> jl0gik: that'll be a lot simpler
[05:44] <mr_daemon> Since one update, I get tis in my logs over and over when I press the arrow keys and pageup page down, home delete insert etc: atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0).
[05:44] <Lewix> I have a laptop , toshiba M40/M45 serie and  I've downloaded the iso dvd of ubuntu. when I boot there's things that loads up then my screen goes black. as well as the dvd screen as the install. I tried linux vga=771 with the live dvd because i want to be sure that it works before installing and I all seem to work till I got a erro message about xserver
[05:44] <jl0gik> could you point me to a resource?
[05:44] <mr_daemon> Any ideas? The forums were not particularily useful...
[05:44] <mr_daemon> I just found people with my problem and no solution...
[05:45] <fr500> if i manage to compile banshee succefully without messing everything around too much, how can i share the debs?
[05:45] <fr500> i did them with checkinstall
[05:45] <Lewix> I've been looking for a solution everywhere
[05:45] <bob2_> jl0gik: man 5 interfaces
[05:45] <navarone> mr_daemon, perhaps you have improper keyboard in use...i.e us vs uk or something like that...?
[05:45] <bob2_> jl0gik: also /usr/share/doc/ifupdown
[05:46] <mr_daemon> navarone: cf actually. Canadian French.
[05:46] <bob2_> mr_daemon: anything in the bts?
[05:46] <mr_daemon> bob2_: ... come again?
[05:46] <navarone> ahh oui oui...lol
[05:46] <Lewix> tu peux m'aider le canadien francais la
[05:46] <bob2_> mr_daemon: have you looked in the bug tracking system?
[05:46] <mr_daemon> lol coudonc, chu pas tu seul on dirait :P
[05:46] <bob2_> fr500: banshee is in ubuntu.
[05:46] <Lewix> someone helps!! please
[05:46] <mr_daemon> bob2_: hmm, no, i will hold on.
[05:46] <fr500> bob2_: but it's outdated
[05:47] <cdubya> ledh, sorry
[05:47] <Lewix> non je suis pas francais mais je parle francias
[05:47] <Lewix> francais*
[05:47] <bob2_> fr500: so rebuild he version from dapper
[05:47] <bob2_> Lewix: enough
[05:47] <navarone> mr_daemon, perhaps you don't have proper font set with accents and such...if your keyboard ampping includes them
[05:47] <fr500> bob2_: i used mono from backports though
[05:47] <Mostro> am I visible?
[05:47] <bob2_> Mostro: no
[05:47] <Mostro> I forgot my password
[05:47] <Mostro> how do I recover
[05:47] <fr33mind> I have sound in gdm and when I logged, I don't have sound anymore!  That was working this morning.
[05:47] <ledh> thanks for
[05:47] <dabaR> Mostro: you spend life in grief never recovering.
[05:48] <dabaR> Mostro: no, not so, but, there is no way.
[05:48] <Mostro> ok
[05:48] <fr500> bob2_: so i should change my repos to daper and get mono and banshee from there>
[05:48] <fr500> _
[05:48] <mr_daemon> navarone: Actually, loadkeys cf is done properly, but I had the known bug in Gnome where I must change the shortcut key to change keyboard layout else i'm stuck with US. The rest was set during the installation.
[05:48] <fr500> ?
[05:48] <cdubya> ledh, go to Synaptic now....and click on search and type j2re
[05:48] <Mostro> I will try a new nick then
[05:48] <fr500> man this keyboard is killing me
[05:48] <Mostro> is that what I have to do?
[05:48] <Lewix> any idea ?
[05:48] <navarone> Mostro...maybe all that typing msg to nickserv in public got your password nicked...<shrug>
[05:48] <hatred_> argh.. can't install mplayer.. "mplayer-586: Depends: libxxf86dga1 but it is not going to be installed // Depends: libxxf86vm1 but it is not going to be installed".. what do i do about that?
[05:48] <dabaR> fr33mind: post output of "amixer" in a terminal to paste.ubuntulinux.nl, please.
[05:48] <hatred_> mplayer-k6 said the same thing
[05:48] <ledh> cdubya ... nothing
[05:48] <bob2_> fr500: get the backport people to do it then
[05:49] <bob2_> hatred_: don't use a broken sources.list
[05:49] <Mostro> sorry, I'm new to IRC
[05:49] <bob2_> hatred_: ie paste it to #flood and we'll tell you what to get rid of
[05:49] <Lewix> I have a laptop , toshiba M40/M45 serie and  I've downloaded the iso dvd of ubuntu. when I boot and type enter there's things that loads up then my screen goes black. as well with the dvd screen as with the install. I tried linux vga=771 with the live dvd because i want to be sure that it works before installing and I all seem to work till I got a erro message about xserver
[05:49] <fr500> bob2_: kk
[05:49] <hatred_> bob2_ its the one i got from source-o-matic
[05:49] <navarone> mr_daemon, I salute you in your struggles...<s> (meaning I can't help)
[05:49] <cdubya> ledh, sorry, what version of ubuntu are you on?
[05:49] <bob2_> hatred_: I have no idea what that is, but it sounds like something a forums person would concoct
[05:50] <mr_daemon> navarone: Well, thanks for trying anyways :)
[05:50] <ledh> cdubya ... Hoary 5.04 i think
[05:50] <dabaR> bob2_: seveas' sourceomatic, kinda sucks.
[05:50] <fr33mind> dabaR, done
[05:50] <fr33mind> dabaR, done #5543
[05:50] <hatred_> bob2_ #flooded.. what should i change?
[05:50] <cdubya> ledh, ok. go to Settings > Repositories and look for the one that says Hoary Binary
[05:51] <cdubya> ledh, click once on it and click edit
[05:51] <navarone> np mr_daemon
[05:51] <mr_daemon> sudo update-rc.d -f hotkey-setup remove
[05:51] <bob2_> hatred_: didn't you say you were using warty?
[05:51] <mr_daemon> That should fix my problem according to people.
[05:51] <mr_daemon> What bothers me is that hotkey-setup basically just sources a file, for laptop key support...
[05:51] <hatred_> bob2_ one can't update from one release to another with ubuntu?
[05:51] <mr_daemon> Well, if it *is* what I think it is.
[05:51] <cdubya> ledh, you'll probably see a CD one listed first, then possibly an Ubuntu 5.04 source one, then a binary one
[05:52] <navarone> Mostro...keep the door closed...theres a draft
[05:52] <bob2_> hatred_: of course you can
[05:52] <bob2_> hatred_: if you update through each release
[05:52] <ledh> cdubya ... now? i clicked EDIT
[05:52] <hatred_> bob2_ i'd like to be using recent software.. is there a better way to do it than just using recent repositories?
[05:52] <black> hii all
[05:53] <mr_daemon> Yup no longer getting the error message. hotkey-setup was the culprit :) Case Closed.
[05:53] <dabaR> fr33mind: thats a big one. Dunno, ask crimsun, when you see him, or try alsamixer in a terminal, and try muting some things, use m to mute unmute. pcm and master must be unmuted for sure.
[05:53] <bob2_> hatred_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryUpgradeNotes, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[05:53] <dabaR> !sound
[05:53] <ubotu> methinks sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[05:53] <black> i have some proble here :(
[05:53] <cdubya> in the sections area, add the word multiverse at the end, then ok and ok
[05:53] <mr_daemon> bob2_: Thanks for reminding me to look at the bugzilla.
[05:53] <black> i already install php,apache, and mysql
[05:53] <bob2_> mr_daemon: fixed?
[05:53] <chalcedony> okies.. now how do i find abiword to get it with apt get?
[05:53] <black> but i can't connect my php with sql
[05:53] <cdubya> ledh, then click Reload on the main synaptic window
[05:53] <black> can any body pleaseee help :d
[05:54] <bob2_> chalcedony: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[05:54] <hatred_> bob2_ but what if I don't have the bandwidth to update _everying_, and just want mplayer?
[05:54] <cdubya> ledh, and click on search again and run a search for j2re
[05:54] <bob2_> black: you don't seem to have asked a question yet
[05:54] <hatred_> bob2_ dialup is greatly limiting to my options :/
[05:54] <mr_daemon> bob2_: Yep, hotkey-setup was the culprit. I have no clue why as this usually loads laptop keys configurations.
[05:54] <Rev-Marc> how do I get flash to install ?
[05:54] <navarone> hatred are you on dial up at home as well or just your friend on dial up?
[05:55] <mr_daemon> bob2_: And it basically sources a file and loads a the sony vaio junk if needed... oh well.
[05:55] <black> my question is how to configure my php so it can't use mysql syntax
[05:55] <bob2_> Rev-Marc: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:55] <hatred_> navarone just my friend.. its too hot here at the moment to go outside though
[05:55] <ledh> cdubya ... nothing---
[05:55] <cdubya> ledh, hmm.
[05:55] <bob2_> black: what does "can't use mysql syntax" mean?
[05:55] <ledh> cdubya ... can i just go back to WinX? xDDD
[05:55] <Rev-Marc> I tried that and it keeps giving errors?
[05:55] <ledh> cdubya ... this is too complicated for me -.-U
[05:55] <jl0gik> what is a good MP3 manager i like to rip cd's to my comp
[05:56] <bob2_> Rev-Marc: which none of use can see?  paste them to #flood
[05:56] <cdubya> ledh, sorry to hear that.
[05:56] <bob2_> jl0gik: I quite like abcde.
[05:56] <C-is-for-cookie> can people see me?
[05:56] <cdubya> ledh, there's great support for it.....
[05:56] <black> yes, when i use syntax "mysql_connect" in my php script
[05:57] <black> it show error like this "Call to undefined funtion: mysql_connect()"
[05:57] <ledh> cdubya ... i know... and you are helping me with some of it... i just don't get it why i can't install the JAVA thing!
[05:57] <navarone> hatred> I don't know if anyone has a iso available with software from repos...but if you could find them or packages yourself you could burn them to cd and your friend could add them as cd source
[05:57] <bob2_> black: so you mean "How do I configure php to use the mysql module?"?  installing it should be enough.
[05:57] <cdubya> ledh, we can try another way if you want
[05:57] <ledh> cdubya ... i just want to download music... is that too much to ask? =(
[05:57] <C-is-for-cookie> am i visible now?
[05:57] <cdubya> ledh, no
[05:57] <ledh> cdubya ... xDDD sure! tell me
[05:57] <hatred_> navarone seems like a massive hassle just to install something that can play videos unlike totem
[05:57] <ledh> cdubya ... n_n
[05:58] <black> yes that is what i meand :D
[05:58] <bob2_> hatred_: so use xine or something that's in warty
[05:58] <cdubya> ledh, applications > accessories > terminal
[05:58] <bob2_> C-is-for-cookie: obviously
[05:58] <ledh> cdubya, done
[05:58] <black> i already install it but it isn't working :d
[05:58] <MWettendorff> anyone here that can help a n00b with updating his x-chat to 2.6.0???
[05:58] <C-is-for-cookie> bob2_
[05:58] <bob2_> black: and you're using php4?
[05:58] <cdubya> ledh, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:58] <hatred_> bob2_ well i'm trying to install mplayer, but everyone's telling me I have to update the whole system through two releases to install it
[05:58] <black> yes
[05:58] <fr33mind> I have sound in gdm and when I logged, I don't have sound anymore!  That was working this morning.
[05:58] <bob2_> hatred_: no one is saying that
[05:59] <black> i am using php4
[05:59] <navarone> C-is-for-cookie, I sense a theme running...you aren't Biscuitian-warhe as well are you...? lol
[05:59] <C-is-for-cookie> how do I direct an answer to you, the way you have to me
[05:59] <bob2_> hatred_: if you really want mplayer, you will have to jump through some hoops, yes.
[05:59] <ledh> cdubya, done
[05:59] <hatred_> bob2_ that's what you told me about 5 mins ago.. is there no other way to install it?
[05:59] <cdubya> ledh, do you see how some of the lines have a # at the beginning?
[05:59] <bob2_> hatred_: I did not say that at all
[05:59] <bob2_> C-is-for-cookie: type my name
[05:59] <ledh> cdubya, yup
[05:59] <C-is-for-cookie> bob2_
[05:59] <navarone> C-is-for-cookie, if you mean ahving your nick light up line you just type persons nick to have them see it highlighted
[05:59] <hatred_> bob2_ then what do i need to do to install mplayer?
[06:00] <bob2_> black: what does 'dpkg -l php4-mysql | tail -n1' print out?
[06:00] <cdubya> ledh, they're commented out at that point - untouched by apt
[06:00] <bob2_> hatred_: jump through many hoops
[06:00] <hatred_> bob2_ why is it so hard in ubuntu?
[06:00] <cdubya> ledh, so we can enable what you need here
[06:00] <bob2_> hatred_: oh, stop it
[06:00] <MWettendorff> anyone here that can help a n00b with updating his x-chat to 2.6.0???
[06:00] <bob2_> hatred_: it's hard in warty ecause mplayer wasn't in warty
[06:00] <C-is-for-cookie> navarone, so did this appear highlighted to you then?
[06:00] <navarone> hatred> if you prefer gentoo you should be used to finetuning from what i hear
[06:00] <ledh> cdubya, o.k
[06:00] <bob2_> hatred_: if you were on hoary or breezy or dapper, you'd be drink beer from a pot plant by now
[06:00] <hatred_> bob2_ so why can't I install it from a more recent repository?
[06:01] <navarone> C-is-for-cookie, yes
[06:01] <cdubya> ledh, do you have a line like this:
[06:01] <fr33mind> Heu, it's only GNOME sounds event my problem... gxine have sound.
[06:01] <black> is says "No packages found matching php4-mysql"
[06:01] <cdubya> ledh, deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe main restricted multiverse
[06:01] <C-is-for-cookie> navarone, thank you
[06:01] <cdubya> ledh, except sub hoary for breezy
[06:01] <bob2_> black: uh, then install the php4 mysql support package, php4-mysql
[06:01] <hatred_> navarone, gentoo doesn't have this particular problem because its not a binary distro.
[06:01] <bob2_> hatred_: really? gentoo 2004.1 can install mplayer from the most recent release?
[06:01] <black> how can't i install it ?
[06:01] <black> :D
[06:02] <bob2_> hatred_: http://www.linuxforums.org/tutorials/1/tutorial-25783.html
[06:02] <black> i'm sorry, because i am a newbie in linux
[06:02] <bob2_> black: what's your native language?
[06:02] <hatred_> bob2_ yep
[06:02] <ledh> cdubya, yup
[06:02] <navarone> hatred> i simply state that gentoo takes patience and time under the hood...so it should not be taxing on you getting ubuntu in order
[06:02] <Madpilot> black: have you read the Ubuntu wiki's Apache/MySQL/PHP page yet?
[06:02] <hatred_> bob2_ it might pull in a couple of other more recent libraries, but that's fine.. it doesn't say you just can't do it
[06:02] <sapaki> hi people
[06:03] <cdubya> ledh, you want to just copy all of that file, and throw it in the pastebin, then I'll change what you need and repaste it for you to copy back and save....? it may be easier....
[06:03] <hatred_> navarone i find gentoo 100x easier to use than ubuntu.. i find myself constantly struggling to do the simplest things in ubuntu all the time :/
[06:03] <bob2_> hatred_: apt should theoretically do the same, presumably you hit a bug in ubuntu, or the person who owns the system installed something broken in the past
[06:03] <cdubya> ledh, course, you wouldn't learn anything that way....
[06:03] <hatred_> bob2_ this was installed this morning
[06:03] <black> not yet
[06:03] <ledh> cdubya, you are the best man!
[06:03] <ledh> cdubya, i need a tutor! hahahaha!!
[06:03] <cdubya> heh
[06:03] <cdubya> I can't say I'm that....but I'll try to help.
[06:04] <MWettendorff> anyone here that can help a n00b with updating his x-chat to 2.6.0???
[06:04] <Madpilot> black: this will take you thru a complete install: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[06:04] <ledh> cdubya, well... you're helping me... period! n_n
[06:04] <sapaki> does anybody know if ubuntu has I450 printer drivers
[06:04] <navarone> hatred> i find people have specific needs and ways of doing things. CLI for folks who like dealing with letters and syntax and gui for visually inclined
[06:04] <cdubya> ledh, just paste it in the pastebin and let me know when you've got it there
[06:04] <black> where can i read the Ubuntu wiki's Apache/MySQL/php page
[06:04] <black> ?
[06:04] <hatred_> bob2_ this is literally default install +gcc-3.4+custom kernel+xmms so far.. totem says it doesn't know what xvid or mp3 is so i'm trying to install something that actually works
[06:05] <ledh> cdubya, well... you mean... copy it?
[06:05] <Madpilot> black: I just gave you the URL above....
[06:05] <covrigel> for some reason windows does not show up automatically with grub in the bootup, how do i add windows to it?
[06:05] <cdubya> ledh, yep, select all, copy, then paste in the pastebin....
[06:05] <Trackilizer> Hey guys need your help.
[06:05] <cdubya> ledh, name the paste so that I know it's yours.....
[06:05] <Trackilizer> I have this old 256MB MP3 player and would like to use it again.
[06:05] <bob2_> hatred_: totem is of no use.  install gxine
[06:06] <covrigel> anyone have any ideas?
[06:06] <Trackilizer> How ever i would like to format it first.
[06:06] <bob2_> black: what is your native language, out of interest?
[06:06] <bob2_> black: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[06:06] <ledh> cdubya, done... i think... -.-U
[06:06] <Trackilizer> I tried doing that using gparted but all i can do with that is unmount the stick.
[06:06] <cdubya> ledh, hang on....
[06:06] <hatred_> bob2_ gxine requires libgtk2.0-0 and libfixes3 which apt refuses to install
[06:06] <Madpilot> black: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[06:06] <Trackilizer> So, how would i format it in FAT16?
[06:06] <hatred_> bob2_ so same problem as mplayer
[06:06] <ledh> cdubya, hmmm
[06:07] <bob2_> hatred_: entire error to #flood, including your apt line
[06:07] <ledh> cdubya, pastebin? x_x
[06:07] <C-is-for-cookie> the only thing I will use xchat for, for now at least, is for this group, so is there some way to automate logging in, so I don't have to type my password, or is it all by design
[06:07] <bob2_> Trackilizer: I'd be very careful
[06:07] <cdubya> ledh, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:07] <MWettendorff> anyone here that can help a n00b with updating his x-chat to 2.6.0???
[06:07] <bob2_> MWettendorff: why do you care?
[06:07] <ledh> cdubya, n_n
[06:07] <bob2_> !+info xchat breezy
[06:07] <ubotu> Updating ubuntu files... please wait.
[06:07] <ubotu> xchat: (IRC client for X similar to AmIRC), section net, is optional. Version: 2.4.4-0ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 240 kB, Installed size: 664 kB
[06:08] <bob2_> !+info xchat dapper
[06:08] <ubotu> Updating ubuntu files... please wait.
[06:08] <ubotu> xchat: (IRC client for X similar to AmIRC), section net, is optional. Version: 2.6.0-0ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 247 kB, Installed size: 696 kB
[06:08] <black> my native language is indonesia
[06:08] <MWettendorff> bob2: becous i want the newest version
[06:08] <bob2_> hatred_: and the output of 'apt-cache policy libgtk2.0-0'
[06:08] <Trackilizer> I need to format it because it shows only 211MB of Free space instead of the full 256.
[06:08] <bob2_> MWettendorff: that's not a very convincing reason
[06:08] <cdubya> heh
[06:09] <bob2_> MWettendorff: if you have an actual reason to need it, it's in dapper
[06:09] <ledh> cdubya, done... i guess
[06:09] <ledh> xDDDDDDDD
[06:09] <smoet> 2.6.0 is in the backports
[06:09] <bob2_> if not, welcome to pointlesly compiling software
[06:09] <cdubya> ledh, k, hang on
[06:09] <bob2_> yay backports
[06:09] <hatred_> bob2_ the part i'm having the most trouble understanding is why apt refuses to install the dependencies it knows these packages need...
[06:09] <black> why when i use this command "sudo apt-get install php4-mysql"
[06:09] <MWettendorff> bob2: true.. but im only telling the truth
[06:09] <black> it said "can't find packages"
[06:10] <bob2_> hatred_: 'ls /etc/apt'
[06:10] <bob2_> black: perhaps because you didn't configure apt to look at universe?
[06:10] <Trackilizer> bob2_, so would you happen to know how to format a stick into FAT16?
[06:10] <bob2_> black: wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[06:10] <cmug> Anyone know how to Install Ubuntu 5.10 with no X, but with framebuffer (?) so I can use Graphical WWW from CLI (links2 -g)
[06:10] <Madpilot> black: you probably don't have the Universe repository enabled - the link that bob2_ gave you will tell you how to do that
[06:11] <bob2_> Trackilizer: I wouldn't
[06:11] <bob2_> Trackilizer: some devices cannot handle filesystems that aren't made by windows
[06:11] <bob2_> tho I have no idea why
[06:11] <C-is-for-cookie> could the length of my nick make it harder for people to want to talk to me?
[06:11] <bob2_> cmug: intall in server mode
[06:11] <bob2_> cmug: or just remove X later
[06:11] <bob2_> C-is-for-cookie: it's annoying, yes, but not a big deal
[06:11] <cmug> bob2_, i am that far. the framebuffer boggles my brain
[06:11] <bob2_> C-is-for-cookie: I just type C<tab> and it completes the rest for me
[06:11] <hatred_> Trackilizer mkfs.msdos ?
[06:12] <kacike> hello! Does anyone know how do I make Beagle daemon to start with the Gnome session?
[06:12] <Trackilizer> Well, i could copy and remove stuff onto the player without any problems, only it shows 211MB of free space.
[06:12] <C-is-for-cookie> I will change it then
[06:12] <cdubya> ledh, go to the pastebin again.....select the text I posted, copy and paste it into that sources.list file that hopefully is still open.......
[06:12] <Trackilizer> hatred_, i don't even know what you mean there.
[06:13] <hatred_> Trackilizer mkfs.msdos formats a partition to fat16 or fat12 iirc
[06:13] <Trackilizer> So it's an app?
[06:13] <hatred_> Trackilizer its a program
[06:13] <Trackilizer> Should i do "apt-get install mkfs.msdos" ??
[06:13] <MWettendorff> bob2: dapper?? you lost me there
[06:14] <ledh> cdubya, done
[06:14] <bob2_> MWettendorff: nevermind then
[06:14] <bob2_> Trackilizer: mkfs -t msdos /dev/whatever
[06:14] <cdubya> ledh, you still got a terminal window open?
[06:14] <Trackilizer> Oh! thanks for that
[06:14] <hatred_> Trackilizer its already on my system, and I only installed this morning, so should be there already. you can only run it as root i suspect
[06:14] <black> i am sorry, but i can only use command line
[06:14] <ledh> yup
[06:14] <Goldfish> I am trying to install lame. I find it listed on http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/sound/lame in the multiverse. However, apt-get won't install it. What is multiverse?
[06:14] <black> because my vga card is not support for GUI
[06:14] <Goldfish> Do I need to add something to /etc/apt/sources.list?
[06:15] <bob2_> Goldfish: a repository section you need to add
[06:15] <MWettendorff> bob2: thanks then..
[06:15] <cdubya> ledh, sudo apt-get update
[06:15] <bob2_> Goldfish: yes, wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[06:15] <capn> am I visible
[06:15] <bob2_> no
[06:15] <kayde> i have same prob ppl that remember
[06:15] <cdubya> heh
[06:15] <fr500> do you know if banshee supports ipod video?
[06:15] <Trackilizer> mke2fs 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)
[06:15] <Trackilizer> mkfs.ext2: invalid blocks count - msdos
[06:16] <Trackilizer> That's what i get.
[06:16] <bob2_> and the ecommand line you ran was...
[06:16] <Trackilizer> mkfs -t msdos /dev/sdb1
[06:17] <cmug> DirectFB anyone?
[06:17] <bob2_> I think I had some directfb in my tea this morning
[06:17] <bob2_> or was there a question to follow that?
[06:18] <ledh> cdubya, done
[06:18] <cdubya> ledh, k. you want to use synaptic or just do it in terminal?
[06:19] <abarbaccia> hey all - whats the recommended app to open chm files?
[06:19] <cmug> bob2_, addition to my previous :)
[06:19] <ledh> cdubya, let's do it the easy way for you... n_n
[06:19] <bob2_> abarbaccia: windows
[06:19] <bob2_> abarbaccia: failing that, xchm
[06:19] <cdubya> ledh, sudo apt-get install j2re
[06:19] <abarbaccia> ahhahaa - thanks bob2_
[06:20] <Trackilizer> bob2_ i assume you don't know what i should do?
[06:20] <ledh> cdubya, couldn't find package
[06:20] <cdubya> ledh, go to synaptic again.....
[06:21] <ledh> cdubya, okis
[06:21] <Madpilot> !java
[06:21] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[06:21] <bob2_> Trackilizer: I don't know how 'mkfs -t msdos /dev/whatever' could produce that error
[06:21] <bob2_> it works perfectly for me
[06:22] <bob2_> Trackilizer: do you have dosfstools installed?
[06:22] <ledh> cdubya, i bet is not gonna work... hahaha!!
[06:22] <coz> hello all
[06:22] <cdubya> ledh, heh
[06:22] <Trackilizer> No
[06:22] <bob2_> ah
[06:22] <coz> IK guys I am bored give names of apps that will convinve me not to go back to windows
[06:22] <ledh> cdubya, can i just hit the screen? xDD
[06:22] <Madpilot> ledh: java info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:22] <Trackilizer> Sorry!
[06:23] <Trackilizer> I do have it
[06:23] <cdubya> ledh, sure, or check Settings > Repositories.
[06:23] <ted> coz: amarok
[06:23] <chaumurky> coz: why?
[06:23] <coz> tried that
[06:23] <Madpilot> coz: Scribus
[06:23] <coz> scrubus tried that too
[06:23] <ledh> cdubya, done
[06:24] <coz> chaumurky i am bored
[06:24] <cdubya> ledh, and under the Ubuntu 5.04 Hoary Binary section please tell me that it says Universe and non-free multiverse.....
[06:24] <chaumurky> give me a Windows application provided in the base install that would make me go back...
[06:24] <Madpilot> chaumurky: damn good point! :)
[06:25] <chaumurky> ;-)
[06:25] <coz> camtsia studio
[06:25] <ledh> cdubya, i think so
[06:25] <coz> adobe photoshop
[06:25] <coz> painter ix
[06:25] <chaumurky> do they incluse that now??
[06:25] <cdubya> ledh, heh, package name is j2re1.4....left off that last part....;)
[06:25] <coz> no but neither is scribus included in ubuntu
[06:25] <cdubya> ledh, click on search and then type in j2re
[06:25] <coz> nor blender etc
[06:26] <chaumurky> free in repositories though. Is Photoshop?
[06:26] <Madpilot> coz: it's a fair bit easier to (legally) get Scribus for Ubuntu than it is to get Photoshop for Win...
[06:26] <coz> no but is is best
[06:26] <ledh> cdubya, nothing
[06:26] <ledh> T.T
[06:26] <chaumurky> ahh,,,best. right...
[06:26] <cdubya> ledh, wow.
[06:26] <coz> true but I am still bored!!
[06:26] <hatred_> on a completely different note, how do i stop ubuntu overwriting my grub conf when it finds a new kernel?
[06:26] <coz> theres one
[06:27] <coz>  I tried that istanbul destop recorder yuk!
[06:27] <ledh> cdubya, I know... my pc is f***ed up
[06:27] <ledh> xDDD
[06:27] <coz> to much symlinking
[06:27] <covrigel> i've tried to apt-get install eterm but it says Couldn't find package eterm
[06:27] <coz> why doesn't he fix that?
[06:27] <paulproteus|lapt> coz: Oh, really?  I was hoping istanbul was good.
[06:27] <bob2_> covrigel: did you configure apt to know about universe?
[06:27] <Knowerrors> Can anyone tell me how to use the kubutu 5.10 cd to downgrade from kde 3.5 to kde 3.4.3?
[06:27] <covrigel> bob2_,  how do i do that
[06:27] <coz> no it doesn't relaly work that well unless you know how to symlink and link etc
[06:27] <bob2_> Knowerrors: #kubuntu, but unlikely to be simple
[06:27] <ledh> cdubya, I don't get it... i've just installed this OS 2 days ago... and is making me go crazy!
[06:27] <coz> it records bu playback is a near impossible
[06:27] <bob2_> covrigel: wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[06:28] <Knowerrors> bob2_: asked there, nobody knows
[06:28] <covrigel> bob2_, im sorry I am new at apt
[06:28] <cdubya> ledh, and you did the sudo apt-get update?
[06:28] <covrigel> bob2_, thnx
[06:28] <coz> what's u[p  ledh
[06:28] <ledh> cdubya, yup
[06:28] <cdubya> ledh, did it try to download a bunch of new list files?
[06:28] <ledh> cdubya, yup
[06:28] <bob2_> Knowerrors: probably easier to reinstall
[06:29] <paulproteus|lapt> coz: Oh, okay.  I was already expecting to have to transcode.
[06:29] <cdubya> ledh, did you see anything about multiverse as it ran across the terminal?
[06:29] <ledh> coz, i can't seem to install the freaking java package!! o.o
[06:29] <Knowerrors> bob2_: yeah, thats what they said, but in my case no
[06:29] <ledh> cdubya, let me check
[06:29] <coz> no but I am not good at symlinking so....
[06:29] <bob2_> Knowerrors: why do you want to downgrade?
[06:29] <hd420> test
[06:29] <AIV> msg nickserv register <icantgetin>
[06:30] <Knowerrors> because kde 3.5 is still buggy, 3.4.3 was fine, I thought it was ready but its not
[06:30] <coz> Oh ok ledh you want me to walk you through better yet
[06:30] <cdubya> ledh, sudo apt-get install j2re1.4
[06:30] <chaumurky> hd420:ack
[06:30] <coz> I can get a url for you
[06:30] <coz> hold on
[06:30] <ledh> cdubya, just one line
[06:30] <cdubya> ledh, k
[06:30] <ledh> cdubya, ok
[06:31] <ledh> cdubya, this is what i got... :Package j2re1.4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:31] <ledh> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[06:31] <ledh> is only available from another source
[06:31] <ledh> E: Package j2re1.4 has no installation candidate
[06:31] <coz> here you go ledg    http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/#fixsound
[06:31] <coz> scroll down if you haveproblems let meknow
[06:31] <covrigel> bob2_, how do i use the deb command, because its not avaliable
[06:32] <cdubya> ledh, ah. forgot you were on hoary.
[06:32] <coz> Oh hoary!!
[06:32] <ledh> cdubya, -____________-
[06:32] <coz> forget that although that url might help
[06:32] <bob2_> covrigel: there is no 'deb' command
[06:33] <coz> bob2 what are you trying to do?
[06:33] <bob2_> coz: ...
[06:33] <chaumurky> ledh: follow the instrtuctions here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76702
[06:33] <merly> I finally successfully set up Xubuntu. :v)
[06:33] <chaumurky> for java 1.5
[06:33] <ledh> x_x
[06:33] <ledh> x_x
[06:33] <ledh> x_x
[06:33] <La_PaRCa> !ubuntuforums
[06:33] <ubotu> La_PaRCa: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[06:33] <merly> linux newbie here, but i've tried about 8 different distros in the past week
[06:34] <ledh> xDDD
[06:34] <saik0> How would I go about deleteing all the files unpacked from a tar. they got thrown around in /usr and /bin etc etc
[06:34] <MasterTsunami> o-o
[06:34] <ledh> welcome home Merly!
[06:34] <ledh> join me!
[06:34] <ledh> xDD
[06:34] <merly> and, i hate to be a cliche, but i can't get over how fast everything is
[06:34] <AIV> what is the url to the unofficial users guide
[06:34] <coz> bob2 you still there?
[06:35] <merly> i have a p3 700 mhz. wow!
[06:35] <_jason> !ubuntuguide
[06:35] <ubotu> rumour has it, ubuntuguide is an unofficial guide written by community members. It is not guaranteed to be up to date, or to work. There is an official guide, at http://help.ubuntu.com which is preferred.
[06:35] <chaumurky> saik) did untaring do that?
[06:35] <paulproteus|lapt> merly: What graphics card do you have?
[06:35] <merly> so guess which distro will be installed on my turion 64 laptop
[06:35] <paulproteus|lapt> merly: Gentoo? ;)
[06:35] <merly> paulprot- i don't know.
[06:35] <merly> it's old
[06:35] <merly> paul  - gentoo is gone
[06:35] <paulproteus|lapt> merly: Even better. :)
[06:35] <cdubya> ledh, can you sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5     ?
[06:35] <merly> paul- "delete partitoin"
[06:35] <merly> hee hee
[06:35] <paulproteus|lapt> merly++ :)
[06:35] <merly> ubuntu got the same treatment back before the network worked
[06:36] <merly> not sure why it didn't.... even this time, upon first boot, it didn't work. then i typed "modprobe tulip". I'm told that is a session-only thing
[06:36] <merly> but i'm not complaining.
[06:36] <merly> i'll be sad if it doesn't come back again. :v)
[06:36] <bob2_> coz: indeed
[06:36] <coz> so what is up with the no deb command/
[06:37] <merly> the only thing i would change, is xubuntu documentation doesn't tell you what to do if you don't install gdm or kdm
[06:37] <ledh> cdubya, nothing...
[06:37] <merly> i mean
[06:37] <merly> no
[06:37] <merly> whatever the boot loader is
[06:37] <paulproteus|lapt> merly: Grub, you mean?
[06:37] <ledh> cdubya, i think i'm gonna HANG myself!
[06:37] <merly> paul
[06:37] <bob2_> coz: what?
[06:37] <bob2_> I was helping someone else
[06:37] <coz> nevermind!!
[06:37] <frogzoo> well, ledh, that would probably be a career limiting move :p
[06:37] <ledh> frogzoo I know! xDD
[06:37] <merly> paul maybe - the login manager i mean
[06:37] <cdubya> ledh, well, you're probably better served building the .deb and then installing that. You wanna give that a try?
[06:37] <_jason> ledh, nah don't do that
[06:37] <merly> not grub
[06:38] <AIV> I created a desktop launcher on my desktop, how would I change the icon?
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> Successfull Suicide  - looks bad on a resume.
[06:38] <ledh> cdubya, 0.0
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> AIV,  right click on it and seect the properties I think.. :p
[06:38] <merly> now i will forge into the crazy scary world of wireless
[06:38] <AIV> I tried that
[06:38] <chaumurky> ledh: trust me, follow the instructions here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76702
[06:38] <AIV> I was thinking maybe it was like wndows
[06:38] <AIV> it has whats called "emblems"
[06:38] <coz> ledh you can go to sun site download the jre.5.0.update5
[06:38] <ledh> i'm tired! -.-
[06:38] <cdubya> ledh, I've done it a couple of times....it's really not all that bad as long as you can find the packages you need for fakeroot and all
[06:38] <frogzoo> merly: if youe on breezy, wireless just works pretty much
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> Emblems are special icons that go OVER the normal icon.
[06:39] <_jason> AIV, basic -> select custom icon (on bottom)
[06:39] <covrigel> bob2_,  do you know any guides that show how to install E17?
[06:39] <AIV> I found it
[06:39] <AIV> thank you, _jason
[06:39] <bob2_> covrigel: www.enlightenment.org
[06:39] <ledh> i'll better tell a close friend that gave me the cd to do it for me...
[06:40] <cdubya> ledh, k
[06:40] <covrigel> bob2_,  its down
[06:40] <ledh> this is really getting to my nerves.. and is making me SWEAT!
[06:40] <ledh> xDDD
[06:40] <cdubya> heh
[06:40] <frogzoo> all the E17 screenies Ive seen so far are damn ugly
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> covrigel,  i saw a script the other day that downloade/installed the latest e17 cvs
[06:40] <ledh> do you??...
[06:40] <merly> frogzoo - not "works" when its belkin with broadcom craziness
[06:40] <coz> I Eat spumoni
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> covrigel,  and it Crashed every 5 min.
[06:40] <merly> but i've heard good stories about ndiswrapper
[06:40] <ledh> xDD
[06:40] <frogzoo> merly: :(
[06:40] <covrigel> Dr_Willis, what do you suggest
[06:40] <cdubya> ledh, I didn't have any issues with java on breezy...so....
[06:41] <n00bix> hi.
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> covrigel,  crashing every hr  :P
[06:41] <ledh> i had a problem with breezy... the keyboard wouldn't work at all...
[06:41] <n00bix> need some help! Can someone help me set up adsl?
[06:41] <coz> True ledh, I do wnloaded sun java from their site and it works fine on ubntu breezy
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> covrigel,  easy_e17.sh - was the name of the script i found on the ubuntu forums.
[06:41] <cdubya> yeah, what coz said....P
[06:41] <covrigel> Dr_Willis, i tried it and it wouldn't install i got error
[06:41] <cdubya> :P
[06:41] <Mabus06> Is there a way to find out what kind of router you're connected to wirelessly?
[06:42] <ledh> couldn't type a thing!
[06:42] <cdubya> ledh, heh
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> covrigel,  then fix it :P it worked for me.
[06:42] <chaumurky> from CVS: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=97199&highlight=E17
[06:42] <hatred_> Mabus06 nmap may be able to tell you if the web configurator doesn't
[06:42] <alxjvr> hello, how do i intall firefox 1.5 on kubuntu 5.10? adept doesn't seem to have any package for it. and the source from mozilla complains of some missing libraries
[06:42] <frogzoo> n00bix: 'sudo pppoeconf'
[06:42] <covrigel> Dr_Willis, can i PM you after i try the script and see if you can help me fix it?
[06:42] <chaumurky> there are several E17 HOWTOS on the forums
[06:42] <covrigel> chaumurky, i couldn't get any of them to work
[06:43] <frogzoo> Mabus06: get the vendor prefix off the mac will give you brand
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> covrigel,  i proberly wont be able to help. the thing was a total no brainer.. however i DID have to tell it to not make one thing.. i forget what..
[06:43] <n00bix> frogzoo just says: sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu.example.com via gethostbyname()
[06:43] <chaumurky> really? that's unfortunate.
[06:43] <Mabus06> frogzoo,  hatred_, kinda OT but is there an XP equivalent that I can use on my other machine
[06:43] <kayde> ok guys, i am runniong ubuntu 5.04 and i use a trident microsystems cyber 9525 vidio card and i have funny red lines across bottom of screen...
[06:43] <covrigel> I am going to try again and then I'll ask for help if it doesn't work
[06:43] <frogzoo> n00bix: sry, just try 'pppoeconf'
[06:43] <kayde> **NOT RED**
[06:43] <covrigel> i did it on a VM
[06:43] <cdubya> ledh, sorry about your troubles...
[06:43] <ledh> THANKS FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT PPL!
[06:43] <ledh> nop...
[06:44] <hatred_> Mabus06 not that i know of.. you could install nmap in cygwin if you can't find a windows port of it
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> covrigel,   easy_e17.sh -i --skip=emotion,eclair
[06:44] <kayde> ok guys, i am runniong ubuntu 5.04 and i use a trident microsystems cyber 9525 vidio card and i have funny lines across bottom of screen......anyone know bout it?
[06:44] <chaumurky> not recommended to go FF1.5. breaks plugind/media support I hear...
[06:44] <cdubya> ledh, it prolly would work using the fakeroot route.
[06:44] <ledh> thank YOU for trying to help me with it
[06:44] <covrigel> Dr_Willis, yeah just like in that guide
[06:44] <Mabus06> how do you find the mac address of what router you're connected to, whether that be on ubuntu or windows?
[06:44] <kayde> frogzoo, ive still got the lines at botom of screen :(
[06:44] <n00bix> frogzoo no, sudo pppoeconf is doing something ... just took longer. For some reason, I can't use access dialup connection unless the adsl modem is switched off.
[06:44] <frogzoo> kayde: 1st things 1st - upgrade 2 breezy
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> kayde,  been working on that for a few days eh?
[06:44] <ledh> one more shot...
[06:44] <coz> yeh the fakroot is neccessary for sun java
[06:44] <ledh> tell me what to do
[06:44] <covrigel> Dr_Willis, I didnt have everything turned on in the APT_GET now i do, maybe that makes a difference
[06:44] <ledh> -.-
[06:44] <cdubya> ledh, attaboy
[06:44] <kayde> Dr_Willis, more like weeks
[06:45] <kayde> frogzoo, how do i get?
[06:45] <n00bix> frogzoo again, it didn't do anything. Just complained it could find a providor.
[06:45] <ledh> BREEZY hates me! 0
[06:45] <cdubya> ledh, you have a decent net connection?
[06:45] <covrigel> Dr_Willis, does enlightenment R16 have shadows?
[06:45] <chaumurky> ledh: what errors are you getting
[06:45] <ledh> xDDD
[06:45] <ledh> sure
[06:45] <cdubya> ledh, you're gonna have to pull down sun's java
[06:46] <ledh> keyboard didn't work at all
[06:46] <ledh> how?
[06:46] <cdubya> ledh, https://jsecom16d.sun.com/ECom/EComActionServlet;jsessionid=703C9DE3E0803B1292A074B70F955636
[06:47] <frogzoo> !tell kayde about upgrade
[06:47] <kayde> yea!
[06:47] <chaumurky> lol
[06:47] <theCore> how do we install dapper without the framebuffer ?
[06:47] <AIV> what is the best text editor for Ubuntu
[06:47] <frogzoo> kayde, BE SURE to install meta packages ubuntu-base & ubuntu-desktop _before_ you upgrade
[06:47] <cdubya> ledh, click on accept, then on the linux self-extracting....the .bin file, not the rpm.bin file
[06:47] <frogzoo> AIV: emacs or vi
[06:47] <chaumurky> AIV: notepad
[06:47] <AIV> like if I want to learn PHP, what is a good text editor to start with
[06:47] <chaumurky> in wine
[06:47] <kayde> frogzoo, erm meta?
[06:47] <chaumurky> sorry...
[06:48] <frogzoo> AIv emacs probly has a php mode - it does for most things
[06:48] <coz> nature calls be right back
[06:48] <hatred_> AIV; nano ;)
[06:48] <frogzoo> kayde: just 2 packages - install them - then go read the upgrade docs
[06:48] <AIV> does eMacs come installed on Ubuntu by default
[06:48] <chaumurky> ledh: you there
[06:48] <AIV> or do I have to load it
[06:48] <chaumurky> ?
[06:48] <ledh> cdubya, done!
[06:48] <kayde> frogzoo, ok
[06:48] <frogzoo> AIV: nope
[06:48] <ledh> downloading now
[06:48] <cdubya> ledh, you got it?
[06:48] <cdubya> k
[06:48] <AIV> ok, will look for it
[06:48] <black> at last i can download the packages :D
[06:49] <black> thanx all
[06:49] <black> :)
[06:49] <cdubya> ledh, in the meantime........ sudo apt-get install fakeroot  java-package java-common
[06:49] <ledh> cdubya, 4mins and its done
[06:49] <frogzoo> black: bills in the mail - your prompt payment would be much appreciated ;)
[06:49] <saik0> How would I go about deleteing all the files unpacked from a tar. they got thrown around in /usr and /bin /etc etc.
[06:50] <alxjvr> hey, in what package is autoconf , buildconf contained?
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> saik0,  Ewww.
[06:50] <Sneaky_Bastard> saik0: no mechanism for what you ask exists
[06:50] <cdubya> Dr_Willis, heh
[06:51] <hatred_> saik0; did you pass -v so you get the list? if so, xargs rm and paste it.. if not you'll have to unpack it somewhere else and use find to go through the list and remove the erroneous files
[06:51] <chaumurky> you have to look at the relative paths and do it manually.
[06:51] <Sneaky_Bastard> I would search for everything with a modified-time or create-time since you you unpacked
[06:51] <hatred_> saik0; you'll get breakage if it overwrote anything though
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> guess ya could unpack them again to a differnet dir.. and write a script to look for the files.
[06:51] <ledh> 45%
[06:51] <cdubya> ledh, yeah it's a chunk
[06:51] <saik0> hatred_, i used tar tf foo.tar > file.lst and got a list of files
[06:51] <Sneaky_Bastard> it is way too late now, but you should have untarballed to a safe folder first
[06:51] <Sneaky_Bastard> adn then seen what it  over-writes
[06:52] <chaumurky> cdubya's got the right idea ledh. It'll work.
[06:52] <frogzoo> hatred_: just do tar -tf to get the list again - tar -tf x.tar | xargs rm should do it
[06:52] <ledh> cdubya, done with the fakeroot thingy
[06:52] <cdubya> ledh, k
[06:52] <chaumurky> nice frogzoo
[06:52] <cdubya> ledh, now we wait till you get that file down
[06:53] <hatred_> frogzoo yeah that'll work.. i don't mess with tar enough to remember all of its capabilities off the top of my head ;)
[06:53] <ledh> 75%
[06:53] <saik0> frogzoo, ahh xargs rocks =)
[06:54] <AIV> obviously I can start emacs from a terminal window
[06:54] <merly> where is my "desktop"?
[06:54] <cdubya> ledh, are you counting it down...heh
[06:54] <AIV> but how can I create a shortvut to it
[06:54] <cdubya> merly, ~/Desktop
[06:54] <AIV> a launcher\
[06:54] <ledh> cdubya, yup... i don't have anything else to do! n_n
[06:54] <cdubya> ledh, heh
[06:55] <ledh> 91%
[06:55] <merly> cdup - what is ~ / short for ?
[06:55] <cdubya> your home
[06:55] <ledh> DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONE!!!!
[06:55] <ledh> n0n
[06:56] <chaumurky> /home/<username/
[06:56] <cdubya> ledh, sweet
[06:56] <cdubya> ledh, you ready?
[06:56] <ledh> o.o
[06:56] <chaumurky> :-)
[06:56] <ledh> >.< am i?
[06:56] <cdubya> heh
[06:56] <ledh> >.>
[06:56] <ledh> <.<
[06:56] <cdubya> where did the file download to?
[06:56] <ledh> i dunno! >-<
[06:56] <cdubya> heh
[06:56] <chaumurky> c'mon guys, where's the gold!!
[06:56] <ledh> desktop
[06:56] <cdubya> ledh, copy the filename
[06:56] <kayde> frogzoo, how do i find  Open up Synaptic Package Manager??
[06:57] <ledh> ok
[06:57] <ledh> cdubya, done
[06:57] <coz> you have three ohter things to install along with the java package
[06:57] <ledh> 0.0
[06:57] <cdubya> ledh, fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin     select the part from jre-1_5....and paste in your filename....
[06:57] <chaumurky> done coz - I think
[06:57] <ledh> say whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?!?!
[06:58] <cdubya> ledh, cd ~/Desktop
[06:58] <coz> well if you do this
[06:58] <coz> sudo apt-get install fakeroot java-package java-common
[06:58] <cdubya> coz, he already did
[06:58] <coz> oh sorry
[06:58] <cdubya> ledh, did you cd to the Desktop
[06:59] <ledh> i'm there...
[06:59] <ledh> now?
[06:59] <cdubya> ledh, k... fakeroot make-jpkg the_sun_filename_you_just_waited_forever_on
[06:59] <cdubya> heh
[07:00] <ledh> xDDD
[07:00] <kayde> frogzoo, how do i find  Open up Synaptic Package Manager??
[07:00] <alxjvr> hey, in what package is autoconf , buildconf contained?
[07:00] <ledh> and i have to say YES... right?
[07:01] <cdubya> yep
[07:01] <cdubya> ledh, are you scared....
[07:01] <cdubya> heh
[07:01] <coz> yeah this is the scary part
[07:01] <chaumurky> lol!
[07:01] <ledh> o.o
[07:01] <Madpilot> kayde: System menu -> Admin -> Synaptic Package Mngr
[07:01] <ledh> i don't have to read all that agreement... right?
[07:01] <cdubya> nope
[07:02] <chaumurky> lorl!!
[07:02] <coz> no
[07:02] <Madpilot> kayde:  and when it asks for a password, use your regular user's pw
[07:02] <ledh> something is inflating/creating...
[07:02] <ledh> i think it's gonna blow!!
[07:02] <cdubya> ledh, heh
[07:02] <ledh> >.<
[07:02] <chaumurky> nice..
[07:02] <coz>  forgive me for butting in every now and then I am bored!!!
[07:02] <cdubya> ledh, you'll have a .deb when you're finished on the desktop
[07:03] <ledh> you're welcome man!
[07:03] <ledh> hop in!
[07:03] <coz> all done ledh??????
[07:03] <frogzoo> kayde: system -> administration -> synaptic
[07:03] <chaumurky> to see the deb you can type   ls
[07:04] <cdubya> ledh, when that finishes, you'll want to do a sudo dpkg -i the_filename_of_the_new_deb_file
[07:04] <cdubya> we can hardly wait....
[07:04] <cdubya> cmon ledh, quit holding out
[07:04] <coz> the easy way is to dpkg -i jre then hit tab then enter
[07:04] <ledh> baby steps ppl... please!
[07:04] <ledh> >.<
[07:05] <cdubya> I think his machine is smoking
[07:05] <cdubya> heh
[07:05] <chaumurky> coz's idea does an "autocomplete"
[07:05] <ledh> trust me!
[07:05] <ledh> xDDD
[07:05] <chaumurky> saves typing it all over and over
[07:05] <coz> yess it saves much time and many typing errors
[07:05] <wanglei1123> is there somebody can answer me my question?
[07:05] <chaumurky> ask
[07:05] <vr^666> does anyone know where the hell i can get BMP eq presets !?
[07:05] <coz> what is your question wangleill23
[07:05] <_jason> wanglei1123, hrmm maybe, what is it! :D
[07:06] <wanglei1123> what is the hardware scan program of ubuntu
[07:06] <hatred_> wanglei1123 lspci ?
[07:06] <coz> oooo got me on that one!
[07:06] <cdubya> ledh, did it finish the jpkg
[07:06] <coz> ther you go
[07:06] <_jason> wanglei1123, try sudo lshw
[07:06] <coz> i knew that , Yeah
[07:06] <black> exit
[07:06] <wanglei1123> ok
[07:06] <paueas> anyone in here a mac user?
[07:06] <ledh> wait
[07:07] <ledh> ok...
[07:07] <chaumurky> wwaaaaiitiinnnggggg....
[07:07] <coz> I am definately not the one to assk about mac
[07:07] <cdubya> paueas, been accused a few times
[07:07] <cdubya> heh
[07:07] <ledh> now the .deb file is finished
[07:07] <kraehe> moin
[07:07] <paueas> cdubya, any chance you can help out with running x11 on a mac with osx tiger?
[07:07] <cdubya> ledh, sudo update-alternatives --config java
[07:07] <ledh> n_n
[07:07] <cdubya> paueas, what's the deal?
[07:08] <coz> wow ledhYo have to tell ubuntu to use sun java
[07:08] <kraehe> any suggestion for a gnome utility to display loadavg and other statistics in the panel (next to the clock or trashcan) ?
[07:08] <hatred_> kraehe system monitor does that..
[07:08] <paueas> cdubya, well i just don't get what needs to be done to make this work on the mac.. i need openoffice.org to work so i need x11 and i installed x11 user pacakge but it still seems something is missing?
[07:08] <dooglus> what is the default value in /proc/sys/vm/swappiness ?
[07:08] <coz> sudo update-alternatives --config java
[07:08] <cdubya> paueas, NeoOffice.
[07:09] <cdubya> Same build, OS native
[07:09] <ledh> i mean.. UBUNTU... Linux for human beings?!?!?! I don't think so! o. I0m one of then and i can't use it! xDDD
[07:09] <wanglei1123> i mean , when you start to install ubuntu , how its initrd scan the hardwave and recognize it , such scsi devices and NICs , what is the script can do that ?
[07:09] <kraehe> hatred_: whats the package name for it ? (or if its installed by default, how to enable it) ?
[07:09] <cdubya> ledh, heh
[07:09] <Nyctea> hi, how long do it take for installation of 510?
[07:09] <wanglei1123> my question is  , when you start to install ubuntu , how its initrd scan the hardwave and recognize it , such scsi devices and NICs , what is the script can do that ?
[07:09] <coz> ledh did you tell ubuntu to use the sun java?
[07:09] <ledh> o.o
[07:09] <ledh> how?
[07:09] <ledh> xD
[07:09] <hatred_> kraehe it came with my install..
[07:09] <Madpilot> Nyctea: less time that XP Pro takes to install ;)
[07:09] <cdubya> paueas, it would be easier if you're struggling and you have decent hardware
[07:09] <ledh> UBUNTU: USE JAVA NOW!
[07:09] <ledh> o.o
[07:09] <chaumurky> ledh: only because you want to install a newer version than Hoary provides. In Breezy, it's a piece of cake
[07:09] <coz> sudo update-alternative --config java
[07:09] <cdubya> ledh,
[07:09] <paueas> cdubya, but it isn't.. because i need the support for openoffice.org 2.0 and their file types
[07:09] <coz> alternatives
[07:09] <coz> sorry
[07:10] <Nyctea> madpilot: hi it's you again. Thanks for the info
[07:10] <coz> put an s on that
[07:10] <cdubya> paueas, so you can't get X11 to work?.
[07:10] <Madpilot> ledh: easiest way to get Sun Java is to just use the package off Sun's website...
[07:10] <Nyctea> madpilot: btw, how do you type my reply with the yellow bg?
[07:10] <coz> choose the number that is for sun java 1, or 2, o3 or4
[07:10] <cdubya> IAWMadpilot
[07:10] <wanglei1123> my question is  , when you start to install ubuntu , how its initrd scan the hardwave and recognize it , such scsi devices and NICs , what is the script can do that ?
[07:10] <ledh> >.>
[07:10] <ledh> <.<
[07:10] <dooglus> ubuntu... linux for human beings who don't want to play mp3s, any windows media, do use sun's java or any flash or director web content.
[07:10] <Madpilot> Nyctea: just start a line with someone's nick, and it will be highlighted
[07:10] <ledh> >.< too much information processing!! Mayor shutdown!!
[07:10] <coz> again that is sudo update-alternatives --config java
[07:11] <coz> go slow dude it will work!
[07:11] <paueas> cdubya, aparently.. i have a feeling i don't have all the packages i need installed maybe?
[07:11] <ledh> NO ALTERNATIVES FOR JAVA
[07:11] <cdubya> paueas, did you download X11 from apple?
[07:11] <coz> then you are good to go
[07:12] <ledh> .o
[07:12] <paueas> cdubya, yeah i did
[07:12] <coz> try it out in the browser
[07:12] <cdubya> paueas, prolly ought to pm me since it's a bit off-topic here....be happy to help any way I can.
[07:12] <Nyctea> Madpilot: so did you see my msg in yellow bg?
[07:12] <Madpilot> cdubya: "IAW"? huh?
[07:12] <cdubya> I AGREE WITH Madpilot
[07:12] <Madpilot> Nyctea: yes
[07:12] <cdubya> heh
[07:12] <devnul> dvdstyler depends on libwxgtk2.4 (>= 2.4.3.1); however:
[07:12] <devnul>   Package libwxgtk2.4 is not installed.
[07:12] <devnul> i have it installed
[07:12] <devnul> any help on that?
[07:13] <ledh> nope
[07:13] <ledh> >.<
[07:13] <ledh> xDD
[07:13] <wanglei1123> is anybody can help me answer the question??~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
[07:13] <ledh> nope
[07:13] <ledh> too many now
[07:13] <ledh> xDD
[07:13] <cdubya> ledh, are you doing the linux happy dance now?
[07:13] <cdubya> heh
[07:13] <ledh> I'm dancig with the pinguine!
[07:13] <Nyctea> Madpilot: thanks :)
[07:13] <chaumurky> too many what?
[07:13] <ledh> xDDD
[07:13] <ledh> questions! xDD
[07:13] <hatred_> awesome.. just spent two hours fighting with apt-get and fifteen minutes installing mplayer and its compiled for a different cpu and dies with 'illegal instruction'.. and people wonder why i prefer gentoo over ubuntu any day of the week..
[07:13] <ledh> i'm not answering any!
[07:14] <ledh> i'm the master of UBUNTU!
[07:14] <kraehe> hatred_: *hm* gnome-system-monitor is showing a big fat window ... i just want an icon display of loadavg ... like in icewm ... but in gnome-panel
[07:14] <ledh> *o*
[07:14] <coz> if everyone were a linux expert ubuntu would take over the world
[07:14] <chaumurky> yeah!!
[07:14] <coz> well maybe not
[07:14] <_jason> coz, or at least linux anyhow
[07:14] <hatred_> so.. how do i tell apt-get to download a version of mplayer that'll work on a duron?
[07:15] <coz> why mplayer?
[07:15] <wanglei1123> hi _jason, hatred_
[07:15] <wanglei1123> hi _jason, hatred_
[07:15] <wanglei1123> hi _jason, hatred_
[07:15] <hatred_> coz; because totem doesn't work and mplayer works find every other time i've used it
[07:15] <hatred_> fine8
[07:15] <hatred_> *
[07:15] <ledh> cdubya, the .deb file is ready... what should i  do now?
[07:15] <_jason> wanglei1123, we have all read you question (many times).  If we knew we would tell you.
[07:15] <coz> NO NO NO
[07:15] <coz> you have totem gstreamer that is why
[07:15] <coz> you need to get totem-xine
[07:15] <Nyctea> madpilot: i'm installing it to a P3 500 laptop from cd, and it very slow ...? any idea?
[07:16] <Madpilot> Nyctea: how much RAM>
[07:16] <Madpilot> ?
[07:16] <hatred_> coz; but why did apt download a version of mplayer that won'
[07:16] <hatred_> t work on a duron?
[07:16] <Madpilot> hatred_: try totem-xine
[07:16] <coz> well I prefer totem-xine over mplayer
[07:16] <_jason> hatred_, you choose the package, which package did you download?
[07:16] <hatred_> _jason "apt-get install mplayer"
[07:16] <hatred_> is what i did
[07:16] <Nyctea> madpilot: i think it is 128 only
[07:17] <paueas> cdubya.. i think ill have to go over this a litte later cause i really need to write some journal entries before tomorrow
[07:17] <coz> do you have all the gstreamer plugins?
[07:17] <_jason> hatred_, do apt-cache search mplayer and then read the description for the packages (for example I used mplayer-586)
[07:17] <_jason> ubotu, tell hatred_ about mplayer
[07:17] <Madpilot> Nyctea: Ubuntu on 128Mb of RAM is not going to be fast - you might want to try XFCE instead of Gnome - I haven't used it myself
[07:17] <chaumurky> cdubya, I don't think ledh's sorted yet.
[07:17] <cdubya> paueas, np, I'll be around tomorrow if need be.....sometime probably later in the day
[07:17] <_jason> hatred_, I think the wiki has a list with proper packages
[07:17] <cdubya> ledh, you didn't get that fixed yet?
[07:17] <hatred_> _jason mplayer-586 vanished from my repositories when i fixed the dependency issues. only mplayer now
[07:17] <ledh> nu
[07:17] <cdubya> ledh, I thought you were compiling your own kernel
[07:17] <ledh> 0.0
[07:18] <chaumurky> LOL!!
[07:18] <Nyctea> madpilot: XFCE is the interface?
[07:18] <xspades> 128mb laptop with xfce is doable, mine wouldnt do any post install of breezy so i installed hoary and did a dist-upgrade to breezy
[07:18] <ledh> sure! i've done it three times by now
[07:18] <ledh> :S
[07:18] <cdubya> ledh, you have the filename of the .deb that it created?
[07:18] <ledh> uip
[07:18] <ledh> yup
[07:18] <_jason> hatred_, what bersion of ubuntu are you using/
[07:18] <wanglei1123> oo
[07:18] <william> Is MAD MP3 all that it's hyped up to be?
[07:18] <cdubya> ledh, sudo dpkg -i debfilename
[07:18] <william> I keep on hearing that it breaks things.
[07:18] <wan> a
[07:18] <hatred_> _jason apt-cache search mplayer lists mplayer-custom, mplayer-doc and mplayer-fonts only
[07:18] <Madpilot> Nyctea: it's an alternative to Gnome, which is the default Ubuntu desktop
[07:19] <hatred_> _jason warty appariently
[07:19] <merly> i am having trouble delting some directories and files i just made
[07:19] <hatred_> _jason i tried to get one from the breezy repository but apt wouldn't let me for reasons unknown
[07:19] <_jason> hatred_, why not upgrade to breezy?
[07:19] <coz> are they enabled multivers, universe?
[07:19] <Nyctea> madpilot: since i'm very new, when can i use XFCE? before or after install? coz installation now quite slow thou
[07:19] <Madpilot> hatred_: you should probably start by upgrading...
[07:19] <hatred_> _jason; dialup
[07:20] <_jason> hatred_, ah
[07:20] <covrigel> quick question: can i mount NTFS file system?
[07:20] <coz> clean install
[07:20] <cdubya> covrigel, yes
[07:20] <coz> yes
[07:20] <covrigel> cdubya, how
[07:20] <covrigel> with the disk command it says inaccessible
[07:20] <covrigel> disk xwindow prog
[07:20] <hatred_> why do i have to download hundreds of megs of stuff i don't need just to get a version of mplayer that doesn't die?
[07:20] <coz> just call me spumoni doof
[07:20] <cdubya> covrigel, hang on, lemme find that wiki page
[07:21] <kraehe> hatred_: *hm* /me got a german explaination how to use 'system monitor' inside the panel
[07:21] <coz> hatred try totem-xine
[07:21] <_jason> hatred_, I never used warty so I'm not sure if mplayer was packaged the same way.  You've enabled multiverse and universe though?
[07:21] <ledh> alguien aqu habla espaol por cia caso? o.o?
[07:21] <covrigel> cdubya, thnx
[07:21] <hylas> just use xine
[07:21] <coz> no totem -xine
[07:22] <hatred_> _jason no idea.. used to gentoo.. this whole having separate repositories for different releases seems like a real mess
[07:22] <ledh> dooooooooooone! n_n
[07:22] <Madpilot> Nyctea: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingXubuntu
[07:22] <smoet> http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch05.html > mount ntfs
[07:22] <coz> it a mes hatred but it works
[07:22] <cdubya> ledh, sweet
[07:22] <cdubya> ledh, hang on
[07:22] <covrigel> ok
[07:22] <covrigel> thnx
[07:23] <hatred_> coz; no it doesnt..
[07:23] <cdubya> covrigel, methinks this is it... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions   at least that's what I used.....
[07:23] <coz> lol well it does if you take your time
[07:23] <cdubya> ledh, one more thing...
[07:23] <Madpilot> hatred_: packages from one version might not work on another version, and are probably different versions anyway, so seperating them makes sense...
[07:23] <covrigel> cdubya, thnx I'll try it
[07:23] <Nyctea> Madpilot: thanks on my way now
[07:23] <cdubya> covrigel, np
[07:23] <cdubya> ledh, sudo update-alternatives --config java
[07:23] <hatred_> coz; i just spent over two hours trying to get apt to install mplayer, just to find out its compiled wrong..
[07:24] <wan>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[07:24] <coz> you are using mpalyer to do what?
[07:24] <coz> play dvd's?
[07:24] <ledh> nothing to configure
[07:24] <whyameye> how do I figure out what package to download for a particular header? In this case I need qucomextra_p.h for compiling...
[07:24] <ledh> it says that there's only 1 program which provides JAVA...
[07:24] <Nyctea> madpilot: if i install in another desktop with P3 1Ghz and 1G ram? any problem?
[07:24] <cdubya> ledh, java --version
[07:24] <hatred_> over it.. found my gentoo cd.. ubuntu is far too difficult for my liking. seems debian hasn't changed at all in the three or so years since i last used it
[07:25] <hatred_> later
[07:25] <coz> hatred NOOOO
[07:25] <cdubya> too bad.
[07:25] <ledh> and what's the version?
[07:25] <coz> get a grip dude
[07:25] <cdubya> ledh, what did that command report?
[07:25] <_jason> whyameye, libqt3-headers contains that file.  Install the package "apt-file".  It will let you search packages for files.
[07:25] <Madpilot> Nyctea: regular Ubuntu w/ Gnome will work great on a machine like that
[07:25] <william> I just installed Mplayer Docs, how do I access them now?
[07:25] <coz> three months and you too will be sudo expert
[07:26] <ledh> sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb ---> this one?
[07:26] <freelove> i created a new user with kuser in kubuntu ..but sound does not work for the new user......but when i created a new user with ubuntu things are ok........why??
[07:26] <william> Yes, young grasshoppa.:P
[07:26] <william> Sudo chop.:P
[07:26] <chaumurky> ledh: java --version will say if it's installed and used
[07:26] <cdubya> ledh, no.... if you type java --version
[07:26] <beej_> hello all
[07:26] <coz> hello beej
[07:27] <ledh> ledh@dC9F82027:~/Desktop$ java --version Unrecognized option: --version
[07:27] <ledh> Could not create the Java virtual machine.
[07:27] <merly> ok. i just did ndiswrapper on the drivers.
[07:27] <merly> what do i do now to turn the thing on?
[07:27] <merly> :)
[07:27] <wanglei1123> <your-password:
[07:27] <william> I wish that their was an open source implimentation of Java.
[07:27] <wanglei1123> <your-password:] 
[07:27] <JL0gik> anyone have experiance with abcde?
[07:27] <whyameye> _jason: this is weird, because I have libqt3-headers installed, but qucomextra_p.h is not on my hard disk. I just searched...
[07:27] <coz> same here ledg but it works
[07:27] <william> Sun Java, though better then MS Java, is still kludgy code.
[07:27] <coz> ledh
[07:27] <Nyctea> Madpilot: phew ... then i can install for my home machine too. But i'm worry about nvidia gfx driver ... and other softwrae driver too ...
[07:27] <coz> sorry damn fingers
[07:27] <Nyctea> Madpilot: i mean hardware driver
[07:27] <chaumurky> cdubya: still not installed methinks....
[07:27] <cdubya> yeah, that's what it sounds like
[07:28] <Madpilot> Nyctea: Nvidia cards should work fine
[07:28] <cdubya> ledh, which java
[07:28] <freelove> i created a new user with kuser in kubuntu ..but sound does not work for the new user......but when i created a new user with ubuntu things are ok........plz explain
[07:28] <_jason> whyameye, mine is at: usr/include/qt3/private/qucomextra_p.h
[07:28] <Madpilot> !nvidia
[07:28] <ubotu> hmm... nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[07:28] <cdubya> ledh, and that wasn't a question....
[07:28] <Madpilot> Nyctea: see ubotu ^^^
[07:28] <cdubya> heh
[07:28] <whyameye> _jason: sorry. I just found it at the same place you have it...
[07:28] <coz> well I can't get java version with the command you gave but my java is working fine
[07:28] <ledh> usr/bin/java
[07:28] <Nyctea> Madpilot: what is ubotu?
[07:28] <JL0gik> i need help with abcde if anyone knows
[07:29] <cdubya> ledh, it's there
[07:29] <cdubya> coo
[07:29] <_jason> whyameye, :)
[07:29] <kayde> can someone walk me thru updating to breezy badger in private mssage?
[07:29] <ledh> cdubya, o.o
[07:29] <_jason> ubotu, tell kayde about breezy
[07:29] <ledh> i'll help you
[07:29] <ledh> xDD
[07:29] <cdubya> chaumarky, he need to add it to the path?
[07:29] <william> Ubotu is the old help bot
[07:29] <ubotu> william: Are you on ritalin?
[07:29] <beej_> should be as easy as popping in the cd
[07:30] <ledh> Ritalin?
[07:30] <ledh> xDD
[07:30] <covrigel> has anyone built E17 yet with the easy_e17? I am getting entrance installation ERROR
[07:30] <ledh> hahahahah!!
[07:30] <sambagirl> is there limitation to number of channels you can join?
[07:30] <Madpilot> Nyctea: our local bot, who printed nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368  for you
[07:30] <william> Ubotus is mocking me.
[07:30] <chaumurky> ledh: to be sure, did you type    sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb
[07:30] <chaumurky> cdubys: don't thinkso
[07:30] <beej_> bah, i should be running at 1280x1024
[07:30] <coz> no mocking
[07:30] <william> Ubotu: I'm not on ritalin, you bolt for brains.
[07:30] <ubotu> william: Bugger all, i dunno
[07:30] <ledh> yup
[07:30] <kayde> _jason, ...i knoiw, but i dont understand...
[07:30] <JL0gik> can you update to breezy from 5.04
[07:30] <hylas> Is it safe to update my hoary repos to breezy?
[07:30] <rob1> william, leave the bot alone
[07:30] <Madpilot> hylas: yes
[07:30] <william> He started it.:P
[07:31] <hylas> ok thx
[07:31] <Madpilot> !tell hylas about upgrade
[07:31] <coz> yeah!
[07:31] <cdubya> heh, this is great, a bot with a sense of humor
[07:31] <hylas> it just said it's still experimental
[07:31] <covrigel> has anyone built E17 yet with the easy_e17? I am getting entrance installation ERROR
[07:31] <beej_> i'll be back later, see ya
[07:31] <chaumurky> arent we all??
[07:31] <chaumurky> experimental ;-)
[07:31] <coz> I ahve not covrigel
[07:31] <JL0gik> Ubotu: i like donuts
[07:31] <ubotu> JL0gik: I give up, what is it?
[07:31] <Madpilot> hylas: Breezy final was released in mid-October
[07:31] <covrigel> coz, lol dang
[07:31] <william> !MAD
[07:31] <ubotu> william: I don't know
[07:31] <covrigel> coz,  what do you use
[07:31] <freelove> how do i remove the hard drive icons from desktop???
[07:31] <coz> I use breeay final
[07:31] <cdubya> I love the wars ubotu starts
[07:31] <coz> breezy
[07:32] <coz> damn fingers
[07:32] <pramz> cdubya: what kind of wars ?
[07:32] <william> I love Ubuntu.
[07:32] <william> Except for the name, which I can't always spell right.
[07:32] <pramz> if you mean the my distro is bigger than your distro, it happens all the time and its stupid :)
[07:32] <cdubya> like the editor wars, the desktop wars....etc....
[07:32] <ledh> UBUNTU HATES ME!
[07:32] <cdubya> ledh, why?
[07:32] <chaumurky> no ledh, c'mon, did you type    sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb
[07:32] <pramz> ubuntu loves me and i love ubuntu back :-)
[07:32] <hylas> Yeah but I'm running hoary, and it said it's still experimental to just update by updating your repos
[07:32] <rob1> wow, this is getting worse then #fedora
[07:32] <ledh> yes sir.. i did...
[07:32] <pramz> lol
[07:33] <cdubya> pramz, I hadn't seen it much and was cracking up at the statements....
[07:33] <liam> u guys think ubuntu is the desk debian distro??
[07:33] <Nyctea> Madpilot: thanks, but how do i use the bot to help me?
[07:33] <chaumurky> and there were no errors?
[07:33] <william> What is wrong with #fedora?
[07:33] <liam> best*
[07:33] <wanglei1123> hi
[07:33] <IcemanV9> Ubuntu killed LCD this morning .. has to find OLD laptop w/ 128Mb RAM *sigh*
[07:33] <ledh> she's sleepong now, may i take the msg?
[07:33] <coz> yeah how do you use ubotu
[07:33] <ledh> xDDD
[07:33] <freelove> how do i remove the hard disk icons from desktop plz say:(
[07:34] <Madpilot> !tell Nyctea about ubotu
[07:34] <coz> right click delete
[07:34] <wanglei1123> hi everyone , how can tell somebody in there (public) with red chars?
[07:34] <wanglei1123> hi everyone , how can i tell somebody in there (public) with red chars?
[07:34] <coz> well tell me too!
[07:34] <ledh> UBUNTU **MURDERER!!!**
[07:34] <chaumurky> ledh: that's not helping...
[07:35] <ledh> nope...
[07:35] <ledh> i'm going crazy here though
[07:35] <william> Why isn't the game Atlantik default in Ubuntu?
[07:35] <chaumurky> relax
[07:35] <ledh> n_n
[07:35] <william> It's a kickass game.
[07:35] <ledh> can't
[07:35] <coz> I bet it felt good though!
[07:35] <ledh> i'll kick ubuntu's ass! .
[07:35] <rob1> !coc
[07:35] <ubotu> rumour has it, coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/
[07:35] <william> I punted my Aptiva once.
[07:35] <wanglei1123> hi ,hello  , how can i tell somebody in there (public) with red chars?  could you tell me ? n_n
[07:35] <chaumurky> you should take a break and come back later. We'll be here. :-)
[07:35] <coz> AH another app I didn't try atlantic
[07:35] <ledh> i wanna DOWNLOAD MUSIC!!! >.<
[07:36] <wanglei1123> hi ,hello  , how can i tell somebody in there (public) with red chars?  could you tell me ? ^_^
[07:36] <ledh> nope!
[07:36] <chaumurky> no, not frustration, just pragmatism ;-)
[07:36] <william> SHUT UP!
[07:36] <cdubya> heh
[07:36] <Nyctea> !tell
[07:36] <coz> ledg is the java not working????
[07:36] <coz> ledh
[07:36] <william> What the heck do you mean by with red chairs!?
[07:36] <wanglei1123> !tell wan hi
[07:36] <coz> soryy
[07:36] <rob1> guys, if you want to mess around do it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:36] <chaumurky> I remember when I was in Ledh's shoes...
[07:36] <coz> damn fingers
[07:36] <wanglei1123> ok , thanks :)
[07:36] <ledh> my brain will explode... but i have to download a song tonite!
[07:36] <rob1> this is all off topic here
[07:36] <william> Shut up Ledh, this isn't a music channel.
[07:37] <ledh> .
[07:37] <coz> well ledh, I assume you need the java to download the music?
[07:37] <wan> k
[07:37] <freelove> how do i remove the hard disk icons from my ubuntu desktop plz say:(
[07:37] <chaumurky> ledh, install amule. Doesn't need Java. ------ go:    sudo apt-get install amule
[07:37] <ledh> right... and who are YOU to butt in?
[07:37] <ledh> u_u
[07:37] <wanglei1123> tell wan hi
[07:37] <william> I had the same problem last night
[07:37] <wanglei1123> .
[07:37] <coz> freelove have you tried right clock delete?
[07:37] <wanglei1123> wan .
[07:37] <coz> click
[07:37] <william> it's sudo apt-get install java-1.4
[07:38] <freelove> coz: yes it doesnt work.....
[07:38] <coz> hold on freelov I will check
[07:38] <wanglei1123> wan: this is for you
[07:38] <ledh> Coz... Chaumurky... i'm gonna use Limewire
[07:38] <ledh> that's why
[07:38] <Nyctea> Madpilot: thanks
[07:38] <chaumurky> Ahh, but till then, amule??
[07:38] <wan> wanglei1123 really?
[07:38] <william> ledh, sudo apt-get install java-1.4
[07:38] <wan> wanglei112 really?
[07:38] <ledh> IT WORKED!!!!
[07:38] <wan> wanglei1123 really?
[07:38] <ledh> LIMEWIRE WORKED!!!
[07:38] <chaumurky> william, ledh's on Hoary - no java
[07:38] <william> Hoary?
[07:38] <coz> java 1.4 is old dude
[07:39] <chaumurky> no kidding??
[07:39] <ledh> yup yup!!!!
[07:39] <ledh> n0n
[07:39] <cdubya> ledh, sweet
[07:39] <ledh> **DAncing with the Linux Pinguine!!!**
[07:39] <chaumurky> fantastic!. I'm very happy for you!
[07:39] <ledh> THANKS YOU GUYS!!
[07:39] <chaumurky> our pleasure
[07:39] <whyameye_> I want to install a Debian binary. Should I go with the SID or SARGE binary if I am using ubuntu Hoary?
[07:39] <coz> hope everything fairs well ledh
[07:39] <chaumurky> heh..
[07:39] <william> I know it is, but it installed easier, and time is scarce right now, I have a final tommorow and I spent three restless nights on a research paper with a partner, and another partner who didn't do her job.
[07:39] <Pjan> ur so excited ledh
[07:40] <ledh> really?
[07:40] <ledh> can you tell?
[07:40] <ledh> o.o
[07:40] <ledh> 0.0
[07:40] <coz> very long haul
[07:40] <cdubya> heh
[07:40] <coz>  congratulations
[07:40] <chaumurky> ledh: what are you going to download
[07:40] <Madpilot> whyameye: ideally, neither
[07:40] <chaumurky> hope it's legal *gG*
[07:40] <chaumurky> ;-)
[07:41] <ledh> mp3's
[07:41] <Pjan> what song ledh
[07:41] <coz> beep media player for mp3
[07:41] <chaumurky> beautiful - polititian's answer ;-)
[07:42] <ledh> many many cds!
[07:42] <chaumurky> emjoi gently then
[07:42] <Pjan> someone will sue u ledh 4 illegal dl hehehehe
[07:42] <ledh> o.o
[07:42] <ledh> >.<
[07:42] <ledh> >.<
[07:42] <chaumurky> band demos etc
[07:42] <kayde> can someone walk me thru updating to breezy badger in private mssage?
[07:42] <ledh> my girldfriend is a lawyer... she'll defend me!
[07:42] <ledh> xDD
[07:42] <chaumurky> royalty free sound effects cd's
[07:43] <coz> kayde can you clean install instead?
[07:43] <chaumurky> don't worry, the RIAA has always settled out of court...
[07:43] <kayde> coz, ??
[07:43] <Pjan> ya ur right chau
[07:43] <cdubya> kayde, wish I could, but I haven't ever upgraded...I've always done a clean installation....
[07:43] <xspades> not always, some lady is fighting back
[07:43] <chaumurky> *goes to get beer - this is getting interesting*
[07:43] <coz> kayde my suggestion is to back up all your files
[07:43] <coz> onto cd
[07:43] <kayde> and?
[07:43] <coz>  then low format the drive and install breezy clean
[07:44] <cdubya> IAWcoz
[07:44] <kayde> whear do i get breezy?
[07:44] <Pjan> ya thats better kayde
[07:44] <hylas> !tell kayde about update
[07:44] <kayde> brb
[07:44] <cdubya> ubuntulinux.com
[07:44] <coz> download it from ubuntu just type
[07:44] <whyameye_> Madpilot: I just so frustrated trying to compile from the source. The latest is that gcc is not finding qwidget.h. I tried setting CFLAGS to where qwidget.h is, but this doesn't help...
[07:44] <coz> ubuntu in the brwoser it will take you to the site
[07:44] <smoet> !tell smoet about upgrade
[07:44] <coz> burn it to disk and install it
[07:44] <Pjan> emmm u better submit for free cd
[07:44] <Pjan> ubuntu is rock
[07:45] <coz>  you may also want to get  the free cd's sent to you but that takes awhile
[07:45] <Pjan> yupp maybe for 2-3 weeks
[07:45] <Madpilot> coz: upgrading from Hoary to breezy in place works fine...
[07:45] <coz> I bet it does but I have always gone by low formatting and clean installs for any os
[07:45] <coz>  I have sen the difference if you don't
[07:46] <cdubya> Madpilot, that's good to hear.....but I'm kinda with coz on that one.....besides it forces me to backup.....which I don't do often enough anyways.....
[07:46] <coz> Exactly and believe it or not even linux levaes things on the disk that can cause a few strange things to happen
[07:46] <Madpilot> cdubya: yeah, good point on backups... it's been a month since I burned a backup CD myself...
[07:47] <merly> testing. can you read this?
[07:47] <coz> if you upgrade
[07:47] <Pjan> really coz?
[07:47] <hylas> yrd merly
[07:47] <hylas> yes
[07:47] <coz> yess I have used linux, flavors windows mac sam thing applies
[07:47] <coz>  clean install always work best and if there is aproblem at least you know it was not caused by the overwriting of other files
[07:48] <Pjan> oic
[07:48] <cdubya> yep
[07:48] <cdubya> at least you know you got a clean start....takes the mystery out of issues....
[07:48] <whyameye_> so...compiling from the source...any ideas on how to force g++ to find qwidget.h, which is in my /usr/include/qt3 directory? I tried CFLAGS...
[07:48] <Pjan> so we have to format hdd first
[07:48] <coz> yes and if there is a problem you can identify it easier and if it is a bug you can report it without too much doubt about the causes
[07:48] <cafuego> whyameye_: add -I/usr/include/qt3 to CFLAGS
[07:49] <c4v4l31r0_n3gr0>  uhauah
[07:49] <dooglus> whyameye_: use - yes.  what he said :)
[07:49] <whyameye_> cafuego: tried that. Doesn't work.
[07:49] <coz> yes i find that seagates low format for ide drives wroks great
[07:49] <cafuego> whyameye_: Give it a pay rise.
[07:49] <cafuego> whyameye_: What are you building anyway? And are you using 'checkinstall' ?
[07:49] <levander> I've got a .jar file that's a theme for firefox, somebody can tell me how to install it?
[07:50] <coz> i am sogslad tahat evyrnoe here sepels as well as I do
[07:50] <smoet> ahh... just do a dist-upgrade... that's what it's for
[07:50] <kayde> I cant download more than 100mb so no, breezy 4 me :(
[07:50] <whyameye_> cafuego: I'm trying to build libradio-0.94, part of rivendell. I don't know about checkinstall...
[07:50] <cafuego> whyameye_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[07:50] <cafuego> levander: Drop it on the Themes dialog window
[07:50] <ajmitch> cafuego: you're recommending use of checkinstall?
[07:50] <cafuego> ajmitch: if you _must_ use a source tarball, then yes.
[07:51] <Pjan> what happen to u kayde
[07:51] <cafuego> !info libradio
[07:51] <whyameye_> cafuego: I'd have to get past the make command first. And...this brings up another problem on my computer. I can't see the commands listed on the web page you sent me. It's a font problem, I guess. Ever heard of this problem?
[07:51] <dooglus> cafuego: didn't you know that payrises cause demotivation?  http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/motivation.html
[07:51] <levander> cafuego: drag it from nautilus and drop it on the themes window in firefox?
[07:52] <Pjan> !help
[07:52] <whyameye_> cafuego, dooglus: here is what I typed: export CFLAGS=-I/usr/include/qt3. Is this correct? It isn't working...
[07:53] <merly> so my wireless is up and running, blinking
[07:53] <coz> kade if you or anyone is interested here is the url for seagate's dikwizard download         http://www.seagate.com/support/disc/drivers/discwiz.html
[07:53] <dooglus> whyameye_: maybe it's being overridden in the makefile
[07:53] <coz> i use the cd version download it and vurn it to disck
[07:53] <Nyctea> !<factoid>
[07:53] <ubotu> Nyctea: Bugger all, i dunno
[07:53] <coz> burn it to disk
[07:53] <coz> damn fingers
[07:53] <Pjan> i have it already
[07:53] <Pjan> its really work
[07:54] <whyameye_> dooglus: after the make command breaks, I check the value of CFLAGS and it is intact...
[07:54] <coz> and that is diskwizard NOT dikwizard different thing altogether
[07:54] <Nyctea> !nvidia geforce
[07:54] <ubotu> Nyctea: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[07:54] <whyameye_> so...back to my first question then, I suppose. For Debian binary, SID or SARGE?
[07:54] <Nyctea> !installation for graphic card
[07:54] <abarbaccia> hey all - anybody know of good documentation to get crossover office to install the menu's into gnome
[07:54] <abarbaccia> ?
[07:55] <Pjan> !freshmeat
[07:55] <coz> I have used sarge for breezy but  I am not the one to answer that question with authority
[07:55] <william> What does the direct rendering option in MPlayer do?
[07:55] <levander> cafuego: is that how i do it?
[07:55] <chaumurky> sorry mythman, don't use crossover.
[07:55] <liam01> anyone have some good apt repos, or are the defaults breezy ones good?
[07:55] <coz> No abarbaccia i haveu sed crossover office but couldn't get the items in gnome menu
[07:56] <Nyctea> !tell installation for graphic card
[07:56] <dooglus> whyameye_: it would be.  the make subprocess can't touch the environment of its parent
[07:57] <Nyctea> !nvidia
[07:57] <ubotu> nvidia is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[07:57] <Madpilot> liam01: you've got the Universe & Multiverse repos enabled?
[07:57] <liam01> ya
[07:57] <liam01> i took out the comments that came wit hthe install
[07:57] <Pjan> !ubuntu
[07:57] <ubotu> methinks ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards
[07:57] <Madpilot> liam01: then you've got over 15,000 packages to play with - let us know when you run out ;)
[07:58] <Pjan> !awards
[07:58] <ubotu> well, awards is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubunturocks
[07:58] <cdubya> heh
[07:58] <liam01> haha - k
[07:58] <dooglus> whyameye_: did you install gpio already?
[07:58] <whyameye_> dooglus: yep.
[07:58] <saik0> Pjan, /msg ubotu
[07:58] <liam01> madpilot: anything fun to play with, im a programmer
[07:59] <dooglus> whyameye_: ok, so I've got some catching up to do...
[07:59] <Pjan> ok saik0
[07:59] <whyameye_> dooglus: are you going to try it? If so, I'm hanging around. :-)
[07:59] <coz> Yess liam01 create a desktop recorder that works
[08:00] <liam01> ^.^
[08:00] <william> So, Debian is no longer the ugly ducking on the block, or is it just Ubuntu?
[08:00] <dooglus> whyameye_: I'll have a go, yes.
[08:01] <william> I just love Debian and its ilk because it gets rid of dependency hell for the most part.
[08:01] <coz> soon the badger will transform into the beautiful duck
[08:01] <Sneaky_Bastard> Debian and it's clan are now what Redhat used to be and more, I think
[08:01] <Madpilot> coz: Drake is a dragon, not a waterfowl ;)
[08:01] <william> What is Red Hat now?
[08:01] <cdubya> heh
[08:01] <Sneaky_Bastard> back when Redhat was still community friendly
[08:02] <spo0nman> Sneaky_Bastard: early 90's?
[08:02] <coz> I think, if they keep up this pace, that ubuntu will definately end up in homes instead of xp or vista
[08:02] <liam01> what do you guys think of CentOS?
[08:02] <Sneaky_Bastard> I'll put it this way, Red Hat only pushes out Fedora as a collossal free beta test
[08:02] <coz>  I am trying now to convince some clinets, residential, to switch to Ubuntu
[08:02] <william> I own stock in Red Hat, but I haven't touched their software in years.
[08:02] <spo0nman> Sneaky_Bastard: redhat became evil around 97-98.
[08:02] <frogzoo> Sneaky_Bastard: but RedHat has the deals with IBM & HP
[08:02] <Sneaky_Bastard> Anakin joined the Emperor, I fear
[08:02] <Sneaky_Bastard> :(
[08:03] <william> What happend to Slackware?
[08:03] <Sneaky_Bastard> it's a tragedy, don't you know ?
[08:03] <floppyears> hi
[08:03] <coz> darth
[08:03] <saik0> coz, I'm a self-emplayoed computer technician. A few of my residential clients have made the switch
[08:03] <dooglus> whyameye_: slight delay while I remind myself how to use checkinstall...
[08:03] <floppyears> I want to move my ubuntu install to a bigger partition
[08:03] <dooglus> whyameye_: (it's just "sudo checkinstall" by the looks of it)
[08:03] <coz> good for you saik0 I am trying the same thing
[08:03] <whyameye_> dooglus: okay. I'm here..
[08:03] <floppyears> I once used a command along the lines of "tar -cf | tar -x"
[08:03] <william> You know the biggest mistake I made was buying OpenLinux
[08:03] <cdubya> coz, I'm pushing it wherever I can....got a hoary box in the lab at school now...
[08:03] <floppyears> or something, I can't remember what it was
[08:03] <cdubya> advisor's a linux fella
[08:03] <saik0> coz, just make SURE that ubuntu can fit ALL theirs needs. (small demographic)
[08:04] <coz> OK but clean install that to breezy
[08:04] <william> OpenLinux was like Windows but worse.
[08:04] <william> Heck, it was owned by Caldera.
[08:04] <cdubya> heh
[08:04] <dooglus> whyameye_: the build of libradio fails on rclock.cpp - is that what you see?
[08:04] <coz> well I beliee unlike my genius nephew who disagreses, that Ubuntu, at this pace will be further along than red hat was at the same age
[08:05] <william> They'll probably use OpenLinux to sue someone.
[08:05] <coz> this is definately going towards residnetial installs
[08:05] <cdubya> pres of Caldera used to be the former Novell CEO, wasn't it?
[08:05] <whyameye_> dooglus: yes.
[08:05] <dooglus> whyameye_: I'll look into it
[08:05] <saik0> coz dont forget about ubuntu server
[08:05] <whyameye_> dooglus: I got it past this at one point by copying the qt3 headers around...and now I can't seem to do that again...
[08:05] <cdubya> what's the biggest diff in the server install?
[08:05] <coz> true but now that apple is going for the server market it is unlikely that ubuntu has room to catch up
[08:05] <william> No, the president of Caldera used to be the President of the company that was bought by Caldera.
[08:05] <coz> after all mac is now unix
[08:06] <dooglus> whyameye_: I don't have the Qt libs on my PC...
[08:06] <Madpilot> cdubya: no X, no GUI stuff
[08:06] <coz> and they need the money
[08:06] <cdubya> ah, thanks
[08:06] <william> Madpilot, are you a sado-masochist?:P
[08:06] <chaumurky> floppyears: boot into a knoppix disk or something, mount both disks then use rsync -aS
[08:06] <cdubya> kinda like my first experience with linux
[08:06] <learnfromscratch> how do i find what x server driver i should use?? for my video card.. i am configuring my xserver-xfree86
[08:06] <dooglus> whyameye_: qt3?  or qt4?
[08:06] <william> When I first used Linux I liked using IceWM.
[08:07] <whyameye_> dooglus: I installed qt3 because...is qt4 available for Hoary?
[08:07] <coz> eeww first experience with linux was f__rt
[08:07] <dooglus> whyameye_: oh, I missed that you were using hoary.
[08:07] <coz> I can't even NOt spella word correctly
[08:07] <dooglus> whyameye_: I'm on breezy, and qt3 doesn't seem to be available...
[08:07] <saik0> coz, I can definetly see a niche market for ubuntu server for businesses who want to pay for support given it's connection to Debian
[08:07] <coz> well that is the key, if they are willing to pay for the support
[08:07] <saik0> And theres plenty of room to grow from there
[08:08] <coz>  after all linux support starts at the lowest $1000 anhour
[08:08] <cdubya> heh
[08:08] <coz> sorry $100
[08:08] <Madpilot> william: hmm? I'm mostly a desktop user myself; cdubya just asked what the main difference was w/ the server install
[08:08] <whyameye_> dooglus: is there a way to know whether the developers are intending qt3 or qt4?
[08:08] <dooglus> whyameye_: I really don't know anything about Qt
[08:08] <saik0> coz, it's free. you only pay for the support. opt-in. unlike redhat etc.
[08:08] <dooglus> whyameye_: (not even whether it's qt, Qt or QT...)
[08:08] <chaumurky> ha!
[08:09] <coz> true but YOU will have to congure and support the server or desktop
[08:09] <coz> configure
[08:09] <saik0> coz, how is that different from any other distro/OS?
[08:09] <dooglus> whyameye_: I'm installing "libqt4-dev".  I'll let you know how it goes.
[08:09] <coz> sorry that is $100 an hour and yess it would be nice fi there were alot of linux residential or small businesses around me
[08:10] <dooglus> whyameye_: you'll need more than just headers though I'll bet.  you'll need a "-dev" package for qt
[08:10] <coz> linux support, from you, would bring in larger checks
[08:10] <whyameye_> dooglus: cool.I'm up for upgrading to Breezy if that solves this.
[08:10] <Glossary> hecking whether the C++ compiler (gcc  ) works... no
[08:10] <Glossary> configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C++ compiler cannot create executables.
[08:10] <Glossary> How can i fix that?
[08:10] <coz> windows is not a high paid support for the installer
[08:10] <Glossary> :s
[08:10] <dooglus> whyameye_: I'll let you know
[08:10] <vbgunz> none of my keyboard shortcuts work anymore... they just gave out... shift doesn't work either/ anyone know of a fix without restarting x/
[08:10] <dooglus> whyameye_: apt-get isn't the fastest - it's still installing.
[08:10] <floppyears> chaumurky: will it work with all the /dev files
[08:10] <Glossary> g++ dont work either
[08:10] <chaumurky> yes
[08:11] <cdubya> I'm trying to learn as much linux as I can.....my hope is to offer an open source server solution......biggest thing is I don't know if I'll be able to get businesses to give it a serious look, and I have a lot to learn....
[08:11] <La_PaRCa> um, how do I play a podcast I just downloaded using ipodder?
[08:11] <saik0> coz If you can install windows you can ionstall ubuntu. And if you can configure a windows server you can (for the most part) configure a linux one in the same environment
[08:11] <coz> you're right but linux brings i more money
[08:11] <coz> in
[08:11] <Glossary> help please
[08:12] <coz> damn fingers!!
[08:12] <coz> glossary what's up
[08:12] <Glossary> coz configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C++ compiler cannot create executables.
[08:12] <coz> what version are you using?
[08:12] <coz> ubuntu?
[08:12] <Glossary> breezy
[08:12] <saik0> coz, a person who can administer multiplayform networks SHOULD make more money
[08:12] <coz> OK guys we have serious problem here can we have your input?
[08:13] <william> Where are these names coming from?
[08:13] <william> I know that Microsoft uses cities.
[08:13] <Glossary> coz me?
[08:13] <coz> Glossary needs the help
[08:13] <coz> focus
[08:13] <Glossary> focusing.
[08:13] <coz> help Glossary
[08:13] <Madpilot> william: you mean the Ubuntu release names? Mark Shuttleworth invented the system
[08:13] <coz> No he didn't
[08:14] <cdubya> don't know that I can help much.....I compile C++ stuff for class, but my knowledge is limited....
[08:14] <william> The names sound completly random
[08:14] <saik0> william, it started as a joke. but it stuck
[08:14] <Glossary> (btw before that, i removed a folder called cpanel from /usr/local) was that stupid?
[08:14] <coz> Pleas people help Glossary with this problem I will be of little use to them
[08:14] <Madpilot> william: somewhere on the wiki there's a page where you can suggest name for future releases - some of them are... creative ;)
[08:14] <coz> probably
[08:14] <chaumurky> floppyears: say you're moving from /mnt/hda1 to /mnt/hda2 - you go (as root) rsync -aSv /mnt/hda/. /mnt/hda2/.
[08:14] <Glossary> okay :) ... well anyway
[08:15] <Glossary> coz,  how can i fix it? the cpp ..
[08:15] <coz> come on guys please help Glossary
[08:15] <floppyears> chaumurky: thanks
[08:15] <liam01> apt-get remove gcc      apt-get install gcc
[08:15] <william> Cpanel is for internet access to your PC, mostly for websites and such.
[08:15] <liam01> =)
[08:15] <coz> Unfortunately Glossary this may be beyond me if i am understanding you correctly But someone here has the info you need if they would focus
[08:15] <Glossary> liam01 was that for me?
[08:15] <cdubya> Glossary, yep
[08:15] <Glossary> coz okay thanks :)
[08:15] <dooglus> whyameye_: I found that running configure like this:   "./configure CPPFLAGS=-I/usr/include/qt4/Qt" got it to find the Qt headers...
[08:15] <Glossary> cdubya, would that work?
[08:16] <liam01> how do u add fav channels in xchat?
[08:16] <cdubya> Glossary, he's having you remove the compiler and reinstall it
[08:16] <chaumurky> oh, don't forget to reconfigure grub...
[08:16] <saik0> Ubuntu release names https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames?highlight=%28name%29
[08:16] <Glossary> chaumurky, me?
[08:16] <Glossary> im lost now
[08:16] <chaumurky> no, sorry, floppyears :-)
[08:16] <whyameye_> dooglus: thanks. I'm trying that with qt3 now...
[08:16] <liam01> glassary that is what id do... but i dont know if itd fix for sure
[08:16] <cdubya> Glossary, what command did you use to compile?
[08:16] <Glossary> liam01, ill try it thanks
[08:16] <coz> yeah guys don't sugest something without a step by step for this guy
[08:16] <Glossary> cdubya, ./configure
[08:17] <whyameye_> dooglus: cool. Gotta make a note of that CPPFLAGS stuff. Past the first hump....
[08:17] <freelove> i set to kdm.now i want gdm.how do i do this?
[08:17] <liam01> sudo apt-get remove gcc
[08:17] <liam01> sudo apt-get install gcc
[08:17] <cdubya> Glossary, do what liam suggested....
[08:17] <liam01> worth a shot
[08:17] <Glossary> okay :)
[08:17] <Glossary> doing it
[08:17] <La_PaRCa> Anyone know why my installation of iPodder keeps resetting itself to No Player even after I change it? This is the reason I cannot listen to any of the podcasts!
[08:17] <william> Where did this sudo program come from?
[08:17] <liam01> its too a big a program to be futzing around with
[08:17] <william> Whoever created it is a genius.
[08:18] <liam01> just reinstall
[08:18] <dooglus> whyameye_: it seems like we'll need two different -I flags due to the way the headers are organised.  more soon...
[08:18] <saik0> Glossary, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gcc
[08:18] <Glossary> nop.. didnt work
[08:18] <chaumurky> errors?
[08:18] <merly> guess who's wireless ? :)
[08:18] <Strike> whats with the talking with -s?
[08:18] <Glossary> same as before
[08:18] <coz> good going merly
[08:18] <freelove> how do i set ubuntu to use gdm.i had set it to kdm..plz help
[08:18] <cdubya> Glossary, what are you trying to compile?
[08:19] <Glossary> cdubya, irc services...
[08:19] <Strike> or +s ;-/
[08:19] <liam01> what happened glossary
[08:19] <Glossary> liam01, giving the same error
[08:19] <merly> o.k. thanks for all your help everyone.
[08:19] <cdubya> merly, congrats
[08:19] <Strike> ;-p
[08:19] <coz> I am leaving guys so good night and remeber to eat spumoni
[08:19] <merly> can you help me make it work every time?
[08:19] <merly> i can't find rc.d
[08:19] <chaumurky> spumoni? *googles*
[08:19] <archigos> hrmm
[08:20] <dooglus> whyameye_: this worked better, although there's still an error: ./configure CPPFLAGS="-I/usr/include/qt4 -I/usr/include/qt4/Qt"
[08:20] <merly> somewhere i add this stuff, and it will come on at boot, right?
[08:20] <liam01> well it wont even uninstall for him
[08:20] <saik0> spumoni = delicios
[08:20] <Glossary> cuz later :)
[08:20] <Glossary> liam01, i did uninstall
[08:20] <Glossary> liam01, and reinstall but its not working
[08:20] <chaumurky> wow - spumoni! http://lezza.com/images/spummonicroped.jpg
[08:20] <liam01> oh it worked?
[08:20] <liam01> hmm
[08:20] <Glossary> liam01,
[08:20] <saik0> Glossary, can I msg you?
[08:20] <sammyice> how do i configure network settings when there no gui - i did a "server" install
[08:20] <Glossary> checking whether the C++ compiler (gcc  ) works... no
[08:20] <Glossary> configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C++ compiler cannot create executables.
[08:20] <liam01> u update the system?
[08:20] <freelove> how do i set ubuntu to use gdm.......i had set it to kdm..............plz help me:(
[08:20] <Glossary> saik0, sure
[08:21] <liam01> sudo apt-get update
[08:21] <whyameye_> dooglus: I'm getting /bin/moc: Command not found now...
[08:21] <liam01> sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:21] <liam01> ?
[08:21] <chaumurky> freelove: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[08:21] <cdubya> Glossary, which gcc
[08:21] <chaumurky> then choose gdm...
[08:22] <sammyice> how do i configure network settings when there no gui - i did a "server" install
[08:22] <Glossary> cdubya, what?
[08:22] <cdubya> Glossary, if you type which gcc, what do it return?
[08:22] <dooglus> moc?
[08:22] <dooglus> what's that?
[08:22] <cdubya> does, even
[08:23] <saik0> sammyice, man interfacces
[08:23] <saik0> sammyice, er interfaces*
[08:23] <Glossary> cdubya, /usr/bin/gcc
[08:23] <dooglus> whyameye_: it's "moc - generate Qt meta object support code"
[08:23] <whyameye_> dooglus: I dunno, but I made a symbolic link to it, since it was on my machine somewhere else. Now I'm compiling again...hoping for no more errors. :-)
[08:23] <cdubya> Glossary, k
[08:23] <La_PaRCa> Is there a way to play my podcasts opening them thru ipodder?
[08:23] <freelove> chaumurky: thanks.got help after a long time today...
[08:23] <chaumurky> my pleasure
[08:24] <perdidopunk> i built a kernel and i'm getting kernel panics
[08:24] <sammyice> saik0: thanks, had done that, thot there was a wizard or so...
[08:24] <perdidopunk> Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
[08:24] <perdidopunk> any idea what could be causing this ?
[08:24] <chaumurky> ouch!!
[08:24] <perdidopunk> i built the damn thing like 6 times tonight... i'm starting to think i might just get another distro with more included device drivers
[08:24] <bob2_> wtf
[08:25] <saik0> sammyice, nah. it's failry straighforward though. then sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[08:25] <bob2_> what driver do you think is not in the ubuntu kernel?
[08:25] <perdidopunk> i'm thinking it's my raid card
[08:25] <perdidopunk> so i took my boot disk and put it on the motherboard ide slot
[08:25] <bob2_> how do you not know?
[08:25] <perdidopunk> but still no dice
[08:25] <perdidopunk> well
[08:25] <whyameye_> dooglus: I think I have a binary!
[08:25] <perdidopunk> i made sure to build all the drivers i needed into the kernel
[08:25] <perdidopunk> but
[08:25] <bob2_> no, stop
[08:25] <perdidopunk> kernel panics nonetheless
[08:26] <bob2_> what hardware does the default kernel not support?
[08:26] <chaumurky> may need to compile raid card modult static in kernel??
[08:26] <bob2_> no
[08:26] <perdidopunk> apparently anything pci express ?
[08:26] <bob2_> e.g.?
[08:26] <bob2_> you're making this pointlessly tedious for us both
[08:26] <GNAM> why so many problems to have firefox 1.5 in dapper?
[08:26] <GNAM> sauauasusau
[08:26] <chaumurky> not supported till Dapper GNAM:
[08:27] <cdubya> Glossary, saik0 get you squared?
[08:27] <GNAM> what i've written?
[08:27] <perdidopunk> here's my specs: athlon 64 venice core, asus k8v-e deluxe mobo, radeon x1800xt, sil 0680 pci raid host controller with a striped set (that's windows though), 2 maxtor drives on the mobo ide bus
[08:27] <chaumurky> ahh, sorry you did say Dapper...
[08:27] <GNAM> auauaua
[08:27] <Glossary> cdubya, we working on it
[08:27] <Glossary> thanks :)
[08:27] <cdubya> yep
[08:27] <perdidopunk> erm, i also have a firewire soundcard, but i'm not worrying about that at this point...
[08:27] <cdubya> not that it was any help.
[08:27] <cdubya> heh
[08:27] <saik0> cdubya, we took a step back to RTFM =)
[08:27] <cdubya> heh
[08:27] <perdidopunk> i'm upset that it installed drivers for my freaking webcam but i can't seem to get it to read the hard disks correctly
[08:27] <cdubya> point taken
[08:28] <bob2_> perdidopunk: what in particular is not working?
[08:28] <perdidopunk> i have no idea
[08:28] <perdidopunk> becauoh wait
[08:28] <chaumurky> oh dear
[08:28] <bob2_> perdidopunk: you need to take ten steps back and tell us what on earth is going on
[08:28] <perdidopunk> trying to ini scsi driver
[08:28] <perdidopunk> ahhh
[08:28] <perdidopunk> yes
[08:28] <bob2_> perdidopunk: is some piece of hardware not working?
[08:28] <perdidopunk> it's the raid
[08:28] <perdidopunk> i'm looking at a really ugly kernel panic right now
[08:28] <bob2_> perdidopunk: in what way is it not working? what do you think it should be doing?
[08:28] <perdidopunk> erm
[08:28] <bob2_> perdidopunk: when using the default ubuntu kernel?
[08:28] <chaumurky> is your boot drive on it?
[08:28] <perdidopunk> it should not be causing a kernel panic at startup...
[08:28] <perdidopunk> no
[08:28] <bob2_> perdidopunk: then use the ubuntu default, and tell us what happens
[08:29] <perdidopunk> well
[08:29] <perdidopunk> i used the ubuntu default
[08:29] <perdidopunk> but that doesn't support my video card, which is pci express
[08:29] <levander> Is anybody successfully manually installing themes in Firefox?  Via the drag and drop on the theme manager dialog method?
[08:29] <perdidopunk> nor does it support my network card
[08:29] <bob2_> doesn't support?
[08:29] <perdidopunk> as in i can only boot to a terminal
[08:29] <perdidopunk> X dies because it can't find any devices
[08:29] <saik0> levander, trying to install from a local file?
[08:29] <cdubya> levander, didn't know you could do it that way....I always installed them via the Themes menu
[08:29] <bob2_> sil06080 does not sound like an actual raid controller, btw
[08:29] <perdidopunk> fortunately radeon x1800xt has at least some hardware 2d support...
[08:30] <perdidopunk> it is
[08:30] <perdidopunk> trust me
[08:30] <bob2_> perdidopunk: does lspci list the device?
[08:30] <chaumurky> What video card? I think that may be easier to fix
[08:30] <levander> saik0: yeah, dragging the .jar theme file from nautilus to the firefox theme manager dialog isn't working
[08:30] <william> What is better, ALSA, OSS or ESound?
[08:30] <humandoing> Hiya folx... I'm just about at my wits end, and just wondering if anyone might have some input or wisdom for me in getting either 5.04 or 5.1 installed
[08:30] <chaumurky> ahh sorry, wasn't lookin while typing
[08:30] <perdidopunk> i'd tell you if i didn't have a kernel panic right now :-D
[08:30] <chaumurky> llo
[08:30] <william> A lot of people seem to like ALSA.
[08:30] <bob2_> perdidopunk: so boot back into the ubuntu kernel
[08:30] <perdidopunk> radeon x1800xt 512MB, on pci express
[08:30] <saik0> levander try doing File > Open. I know it works with extensions.
[08:30] <humandoing> I've installed both successfully, on different occasions, but what happens after I reboot is I just get dumped to the grub command line. :(
[08:30] <perdidopunk> when i try to boot the ubuntu kernel it loads the modules for the new kernel...
[08:31] <perdidopunk> if you could tell me how to fix that i might be ok
[08:31] <levander> cdubya: how do you install them from the themes menu?
[08:31] <perdidopunk> brrb
[08:31] <bob2_> perdidopunk: uh, go find a boot cd
[08:31] <humandoing> I'm using the regular install CD's, and the install is successful, and on reboot I just get dumped to the grub command prompt, and it won't boot.
[08:31] <bob2_> and don't do silly things like that again
[08:31] <cdubya> levander, where did you get the theme from?
[08:31] <chaumurky> heh
[08:31] <perdidopunk> i have a boot cd
[08:31] <william> levander, system menu
[08:31] <perdidopunk> alright
[08:31] <perdidopunk> let me reboot with the ubuntu cd
[08:31] <william> preferences, theme
[08:31] <william> It's simple
[08:31] <cdubya> levander, tools > themes > get more themes
[08:32] <perdidopunk> i forget how to get to console from the ubuntu cd
[08:32] <bob2_> perdidopunk: alt-f2
[08:32] <cdubya> levander, that help?
[08:32] <levander> cdubya: not sure why you want to know where from, but i got it from here: http://www.finalstar.com/grayfox/graymodern0.6.2.jar
[08:32] <perdidopunk> thx
[08:32] <merly> going to try a reboot to see if my modifications will make it come up at boot...
[08:33] <cdubya> levander, I was just wondering if it came from the addons site....if so, it's easier to do it through the themes menu
[08:33] <levander> cdubya: yeah, and "get more themes" menu options brings up a dialog, then what do you do?
[08:33] <levander> cdubya: no, it didn't come from the addons site, and it doesn't have an "install now" button where I got it from
[08:33] <cdubya> levander, just click on the ones you want to see, then make sure if you like them to click on the Install now link
[08:33] <perdidopunk> erm
[08:34] <perdidopunk> alt+f2 isn't giving me a console ?
[08:34] <saik0> levander Did you try what I said?
[08:34] <cdubya> levander, then you just restart FF and you're good to choose it.....
[08:34] <bob2_> sil 0680 appears to be also known as "medley", -> http://linux.yyz.us/sata/faq-sata-raid.html#sii
[08:34] <levander> cdubya: there is no "install now" link where I got this theme from
[08:34] <levander> cdubya: i have to install it manually
[08:34] <bob2_> perdidopunk: and you're hitting alt-f2 when?
[08:34] <cdubya> levander, that's why I asked where you got it from....;)
[08:34] <perdidopunk> at the prompt as soon as i boot the ubuntu cd
[08:34] <humandoing> any takers on my grub boot prompt :-\
[08:34] <bob2_> perdidopunk: then boot the installer
[08:34] <perdidopunk> i'm just not familiar at all with debian or ubuntu, that's why i'm having problems
[08:34] <perdidopunk> i come from redhat
[08:35] <perdidopunk> ok
[08:35] <perdidopunk> got a console up
[08:35] <perdidopunk> now
[08:35] <perdidopunk> where is my system drive mounted...
[08:35] <bob2_> it's not
[08:35] <whyameye_> dooglus: just checking in with you. I'm compiling rivendell now.... With the CPPFLAGS trick...so far...so good. Really generous of you to help me so much...
[08:36] <eobanb> someone find me a good metacity theme
[08:36] <levander> whoever suggested I try opening it from File -> Open File, that didn't work either.  It wants me to either open it with Archive Manager, or save the file to the disk on the Open File dialog.
[08:36] <perdidopunk> or rather
[08:36] <cdubya> levander, from what I'm reading, the drag and drop method suggested earlier should work for you
[08:36] <perdidopunk> where is the device so that i can mountit
[08:36] <perdidopunk> sorry
[08:36] <levander> cdubya: i was the one who suggested the drag and drop method, it didn't work
[08:36] <levander> cdubya: you want to try to download that them I linked to above and see if it works for you?
[08:37] <HiddenFly> Hmm... If I wanna put a script to run 24:01 every night, should I put it 1 00 * * * or 1 24 * * *?
[08:37] <bob2_> HiddenFly: where is 24:01 a valid time?
[08:37] <HiddenFly> dunno :D
[08:37] <levander> HiddenFly: is 24 the minutes?
[08:37] <_jason> levander, sometimes the theme is inside the archive, try to extract it and see if there is an INSTALL file, or another package inside
[08:37] <HiddenFly> no 24 is hours
[08:37] <HiddenFly> well, thanks bob2_ :D
[08:37] <perdidopunk> 0001
[08:37] <bob2_> it'd be the former then ;p
[08:37] <levander> HiddenFly: 24 isn't a valid number of hours, it's 0-23
[08:38] <bob2_> 23 hour time!
[08:38] <perdidopunk> hey bob, where can i find the hard drives from the shell on the install cd
[08:38] <levander> if you mean midnight, it's 0 1 * * *
[08:38] <HiddenFly> k
[08:38] <GTroy_> try e17 you'll like it!!!!!
[08:38] <quacker> perdidopunk, try hdparm
[08:39] <bob2_> perdidopunk: you need to mount them, I have no idea what device your / was
[08:39] <perdidopunk> well
[08:39] <perdidopunk> they're not in /dev
[08:39] <perdidopunk> they should be hd---
[08:39] <perdidopunk> where --- is one of my various partitions
[08:39] <quacker> hardinfo
[08:39] <perdidopunk> there are a lot...
[08:39] <quacker> and dmesg
[08:39] <whyameye_> just 1/2 hour ago, somebody mentioned how to find what package has a particular file. What was this again? I thought it was apt-find but this isn't right...
[08:39] <perdidopunk> hrmm
[08:40] <perdidopunk> dmesg | grep hd doesn't give me any hard disk devices :-/
[08:40] <quacker> also you can sfdisk through the list of possiblities from /dev/hdda to /dev/sdz
[08:40] <irvin> whyameye_, apt-cache search
[08:40] <perdidopunk> they're not in dev
[08:40] <perdidopunk> uhh
[08:40] <bob2_> perdidopunk: perhaps those modules aren't loaded until you get the partitioning stage of the installer
[08:40] <irvin> whyameye_, sorry not that
[08:40] <perdidopunk> ahhh
[08:40] <perdidopunk> probably
[08:40] <bob2_> alt-f1 and continue it until then
[08:40] <perdidopunk> good call
[08:40] <liam01> dpkg -l
[08:40] <quacker> perdidopunk, jsut scroll through dmesg with |less
[08:40] <liam01> dpkg -s
[08:40] <perdidopunk> or more
[08:41] <cdubya> levander, got it.
[08:41] <quacker> If Linux can even see em they'll be there
[08:41] <liam01> one of those
[08:41] <levander> cdubya: got what?
[08:41] <perdidopunk> loading modules now...
[08:41] <chaumurky> perididopunk: I think you will need to change the "driver" entry in /etc/X11/xorg.conf from "ati" to "vesa". You should get X then untill you get the driver issue sorted.
[08:41] <cdubya> levander, got that theme to install
[08:41] <perdidopunk> there we go
[08:41] <chaumurky> brb
[08:41] <perdidopunk> oh god
[08:41] <levander> cdubya: how??
[08:42] <perdidopunk> hdc, hdc1, hdd, hde, hde1, hde2, hde5, hde6, hdf, hdf1, hdf2, hdf3, hdg, hdh.... what a mess
[08:42] <cdubya> levander, drag and drop
[08:42] <levander> cdubya: drag from where?
[08:42] <perdidopunk> mount is giving me invalid argument ?
[08:42] <perdidopunk> wtf
[08:42] <levander> perdidopunk: paste your mount command
[08:43] <perdidopunk> mount /dev/hdc /matt
[08:43] <cdubya> levander, it was weird, though, I had to hold the file over the theme window as if to activate that window, then once I did, I dropped it and got a prompt to copy it.....
[08:43] <cdubya> levander, from the desktop
[08:43] <levander> perdidopunk: does /matt exist?  do an 'ls -l /matt' to make sure
[08:43] <liam01> sudo mounnt?
[08:43] <whyameye_> irvin: it's auto-apt search
[08:43] <levander> cdubya: lemme try
[08:44] <Glossary> anybody know where i can get ACE?
[08:44] <perdidopunk> yeah
[08:44] <perdidopunk> i mkdir'd it
[08:44] <kayde> ok guys, i am runniong ubuntu 5.04 and i use a trident microsystems cyber 9525 vidio card and i have funny lines across bottom of screen......anyone know bout it?
[08:44] <perdidopunk> nah, i'm already root i assume
[08:44] <quacker> perdidopunk, your /dev/hda ~/hdb (/dev/sda) should be found as soon as Linux enumerates ide (or SCSI) controllers at boot and ubuntu automounts everything without an explicit mount point under /media/* unless you tell it not to
[08:45] <whomee> ehmmm does ubuntu scramble a root password if doing a standard install?
[08:45] <perdidopunk> i'm booted into some shell from the install cd
[08:45] <chaumurky> ahh
[08:45] <perdidopunk> don't have the luxury of all that fancy stuff
[08:45] <quacker> perdidopunk, unless you booted a  'recovery kernel' or did su after setting a root password 'manually' you will *bnot* be root
[08:45] <perdidopunk> my plan is to mount the disk and then chroot in
[08:45] <crimsun> whomee: yes
[08:46] <whomee> crimsun, well how do i change it?
[08:46] <perdidopunk> neither
[08:46] <perdidopunk> it's on a ram disk
[08:46] <cvt> when install ubuntu dvd on amd 64 it stops at a A\: command prompt, what do i do?
[08:46] <crimsun> sudo -s, then passwd
[08:46] <perdidopunk> this is the console you get straight from the cd
[08:46] <perdidopunk> su and sudo aren't even in this thing...
[08:47] <chaumurky> so you can't boot to the default kernel? Did you remove it?
[08:47] <quacker> perdidopunk, you're using the live CD huh?  Why not just use the installer?
[08:47] <perdidopunk> uhh
[08:47] <perdidopunk> i guess i am using the installer
[08:47] <perdidopunk> alt+f2 after booting the install cd
[08:48] <perdidopunk> no, all the kernels that are there are giving me kernel panics
[08:48] <chaumurky> you won't evenhave bash will you?
[08:48] <perdidopunk> the default kernel keeps trying to load the new kernel's modules for some reason...
[08:48] <La_PaRCa> Um, anyone have any idea why ubuntu isnt auto mounting my ipod?
[08:48] <chaumurky> odd
[08:48] <perdidopunk> i'm using sh
[08:48] <levander> cdubya: thanks man, it was that bit about the focus.  I got my desktop set so that focus follows the mouse, I had to do wierd stuff with the mouse to make sure the firefox theme manager had the focus when I dropped it.  Thanks a *lot* for your help.  I now have my favorite firefox theme installed after having been meaning to do it for months.
[08:48] <floppyears> I would test your ram, and your livecd
[08:48] <floppyears> to make sure that those are not the problem
[08:48] <perdidopunk> who, me ?
[08:48] <whomee> crimsun, i did sudo -s .. when asked for a password what should i type? a new one?
[08:49] <perdidopunk> i know my ram isn't the problem... it's good stuff
[08:49] <perdidopunk> and as far as the cd goes, i burned it earlier today and checked it then
[08:49] <crimsun> whomee: type your user's password, not root's (you can't know root's)
[08:49] <chaumurky> that may be a red herring floppyears, apparently he's had success with RedHat
[08:49] <kayde> ok guys, i am runniong ubuntu 5.04 and i use a trident microsystems cyber 9525 vidio card and i have funny lines across bottom of screen......anyone know bout it?
[08:49] <whomee> crimsun, haha my bad :P
[08:49] <whyameye_> dooglus: I can't thank you enough for getting me started with the rivendell compiling. I'm still tweaking the CPP and now LD flags. I gotta go to bed now. Maybe tomorrow morning there will be a binary waiting for me....
[08:50] <whomee> crimsun, thx alot
[08:50] <floppyears> perdidopunk: then make sure that it's not your cd by running a checksum on it
[08:50] <perdidopunk> did that
[08:50] <chaumurky> floppyears: the original kernel panic is from a kernel install on the HDD
[08:50] <floppyears> chaumurky: oh
[08:50] <wanglei1123> hi , anyone : )
[08:50] <perdidopunk> ugh
[08:50] <perdidopunk> every single kernel gives me kernel panic
[08:51] <perdidopunk> i might just wipe this and start over
[08:51] <floppyears> chaumurky: what is the kernel panic about hd, memory, ?
[08:51] <wanglei1123> i wanna know , what script do the hardware scaning of installing ubuntu
[08:51] <wanglei1123> and what scripts recognize your scsi device and modprobe it ?
[08:51] <wanglei1123> so anyone could help me , pls : )
[08:51] <chaumurky> sounds like a mess. May be a good idea. When you've done that change the "driver" entry in /etc/X11/xorg.conf from "ati" to "vesa". You should get X then untill you get the driver issue sorted.
[08:51] <perdidopunk> Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill ini!
[08:51] <cdubya> levander, glad it worked.....
[08:51] <perdidopunk> damn that'll be slow...
[08:51] <perdidopunk> but at least it'll work
[08:52] <perdidopunk> ah man
[08:52] <perdidopunk> i'll have to do that whole build-essential thing again
[08:52] <chaumurky> yeah, but there's info here about getting the latest modules installed - ubuntu style: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=408111
[08:52] <perdidopunk> i don't understand why it puts openoffice in but doesn't install compilers by default...
[08:52] <perdidopunk> i can't even think of another reason to use linux besides programming
[08:52] <crimsun> wanglei1123: udev and hotplug handle that in Warty/Hoary/Breezy
[08:52] <perdidopunk> well, i can't do that because ubuntu doesn't see my net card
[08:53] <crimsun> wanglei1123: udev has subsumed hotplug's functionality in Dapper, so hotplug has been removed
[08:53] <perdidopunk> i'm trying to use 5.04, btw
[08:53] <perdidopunk> because that's what i could get off the network here
[08:53] <chaumurky> got noother boxen for the DL?
[08:53] <jupp> is there a diskmonitor in ubuntu
[08:53] <chaumurky> jupp: in gdesklets, yes
[08:53] <wanglei1123> crimsum: so udev can detect , recognize and modprobe my scsi : )
[08:53] <liam01> perdidopunk have them send you 5.10
[08:53] <liam01> takes  about 3 week though -.-
[08:53] <perdidopunk> yeah
[08:53] <wanglei1123> crimsum: so udev can detect , recognize and modprobe my scsi devices : ) ?
[08:53] <perdidopunk> by that time i could have it downloaded
[08:53] <chaumurky> hahahaha!!
[08:54] <perdidopunk> i wanted to get linux up and running on that box tonight
[08:54] <perdidopunk> started around 6
[08:54] <perdidopunk> looks like that's not happening...
[08:54] <liam01> ouch
[08:54] <chaumurky> what does lspci give for your NIC
[08:54] <liam01> no software changes?
[08:54] <perdidopunk> doesn't even detect it
[08:54] <chaumurky> oh, sorry - no boot....
[08:54] <liam01> might be better just to wait until you get 510
[08:54] <crimsun> wanglei1123: in Dapper, yes.
[08:54] <perdidopunk> i think it might be a pci express card
[08:55] <liam01> its a bit smoother imo
[08:55] <perdidopunk> i never bothered to look before -- it's onboard
[08:55] <chaumurky> yeah, 5.10 is far more advanced
[08:55] <crimsun> wanglei1123: in Warty/Hoary/Breezy, udev+hotplug perform that.
[08:55] <chaumurky> new hardware -> new software....
[08:55] <perdidopunk> yeah basically...
[08:55] <perdidopunk> that's the price i pay for having a new system
[08:55] <davidmccabe> Strange:
[08:56] <davidmccabe> update-notifier just suddenyl started eating up my CPU and making the system trash.
[08:56] <chaumurky> when did iyou buy it?
[08:56] <davidmccabe> That's an ubuntu daemon, right?
[08:56] <perdidopunk> and i have a computer architecture quiz at 8:40am on i/o buses... how ironic that i should be fighting with my hard drives right now
[08:56] <perdidopunk> erm
[08:56] <perdidopunk> it's been put together in stages
[08:56] <perdidopunk> cpu/mobo/ram were bought in august
[08:57] <perdidopunk> vid card is brand new
[08:57] <chaumurky> pci express - can't be that old
[08:57] <kayde> ok guys, i am runniong ubuntu 5.04 and i use a trident microsystems cyber 9525 vidio card and i have funny lines across bottom of screen......anyone know bout it?
[08:57] <perdidopunk> hard disks are all various ages and reused from a previous system
[08:57] <perdidopunk> and the raid card is from 2002
[08:57] <chaumurky> ahh - hoary ->  April
[08:57] <perdidopunk> yeah
[08:57] <perdidopunk> it definitely didn't like my video card
[08:58] <liam01> kayde you might want to file a bug report, or see if that card has any known issues
[08:58] <perdidopunk> dunno what the deal with the nic is
[08:58] <jupp> chaumurky: i dont understand gdesklets, i there another diskmonitor?
[08:58] <perdidopunk> kayde, try installing the latest ati video drivers
[08:58] <perdidopunk> i assume 9525 is a radeon r300 based card
[08:58] <wanglei1123> crimsun: thanks you soooo much first, and in Breezy , there is no scripts do the hardware scaning, it is handled by udev and hotplug daemon? automatically recongize them when i'm installing ubuntu :)  ? .
[08:58] <chaumurky> steal som other boxen bandwidth for a while and get Breezy. Best bet
[08:58] <perdidopunk> i've got my roommate's computer working on the download too
[08:59] <chaumurky> nice
[08:59] <perdidopunk> gonna take a while though... network's slow tonight
[08:59] <GTroy_> if I don't have a file manager and don't have a list of my apps, what directory would I look in?
[08:59] <perdidopunk> ~140kbps
[08:59] <chaumurky> anyway - if still no joy go VESA until you compile the new driver.
[08:59] <perdidopunk> hehe
[08:59] <cdubya> gonna call it a night. take care, all
[08:59] <perdidopunk> tried to compile the new driver
[08:59] <sammyice> anyone know of a reporting engine one could use? something like Crystall reports on Windows?
[08:59] <perdidopunk> i got some other error... it was running into some other package...
[08:59] <perdidopunk> i forget, that was a few hours ago
[09:00] <perdidopunk> i think i finally got it installed by converting the rpm to a deb and doing --force-overwrite
[09:00] <kayde> perdidopunk, ...please tell me the site
[09:00] <perdidopunk> www.ati.com
[09:00] <chaumurky> did you follow this guide? : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=408111
[09:00] <wanglei1123> crimsun: hi ? :) .
[09:00] <perdidopunk> customer care or support or something
[09:00] <perdidopunk> drivers and downloads
[09:00] <crimsun> wanglei1123: yes, that's correct
[09:00] <perdidopunk> look for linux
[09:01] <rjordan> Glossary: you sir are a fucktard.
[09:01] <kayde> perdidopunk, ok ty
[09:01] <perdidopunk> no problem
[09:01] <perdidopunk> good luck getting them to compile though...
[09:01] <perdidopunk> haha
[09:01] <sammyice> perdidopunk: look for linux?
[09:01] <perdidopunk> i had trouble with that but i forget what i did now
[09:01] <perdidopunk> yeah
[09:01] <perdidopunk> ati has linux drivers
[09:01] <kayde> aww
[09:01] <Glossary> rjordan, wtf why?
[09:01] <perdidopunk> but they're buried in this annoying sidebar thing
[09:01] <cameronbergh> anyone here in oregon?
[09:01] <gary_> seattle here
[09:01] <_roman_> hello i'm newbie in ubuntu
[09:02] <cameronbergh> im starting a portland LoCo
[09:02] <rjordan> Glossary: it's not nice to troll other channels.
[09:02] <gary_> awesome
[09:02] <gary_> noticed none in seattle
[09:02] <gary_> suprising
[09:02] <Glossary> rjordan, lick my balls.
[09:02] <_roman_> can someone help connect by modem through internet
[09:02] <perdidopunk> kayde also read the thread that chau sent me
[09:02] <wanglei1123> crimsum: but which program modprobe them ?  where is the code ? in other words, what is the script name ? :) .
[09:02] <perdidopunk> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=408111
[09:02] <rjordan> Glossary: again, very clever...
[09:02] <_roman_> is somewhere in the web a tutorial
[09:02] <Glossary> rjordan, yes thank you.. have fun with my anus too..
[09:03] <perdidopunk> hmmm
[09:03] <perdidopunk> if shakes(i)
[09:03] <perdidopunk> > 3
[09:03] <perdidopunk> if he shakes more than 3 times bad gets 1 ? huh ?
[09:03] <gary_> has anyone been using ubuntu for digital photos?
[09:04] <GTroy_> gary_: is the new gimp out?
[09:04] <gary_> not sure. haven't checked. gimp is leader?
[09:04] <fr500> how can i download a package source?
[09:04] <perdidopunk> well, while i'm waiting for this i guess i'll stare at my hardware monitor in my bios
[09:04] <chaumurky> awww...
[09:04] <GTroy_> yeah, the new one is supposed to rival photoshop
[09:04] <perdidopunk> considering that my super duper computer can't even boot to anything right now
[09:04] <perdidopunk> current cpu temp: 19C :D
[09:05] <chaumurky> well, anything that old...
[09:05] <wanglei1123> crimsun: hi crimsum , i am waiting for you to answermy last question : ) ..
[09:05] <gary_> nice
[09:05] <gary_> checking now
[09:05] <wanglei1123> crimsun: hi crimsum , i am waiting for you to answer my last question : ) ..
[09:05] <gary_> ubuntu install comes with gimp 2.2
[09:06] <chaumurky> wanglei1123: strike 2 :-P
[09:07] <gary_> yep, it's the latest
[09:07] <wanglei1123> chaumurky: udev recognize my scsi devices, and modprobe it too????!! :) ..
[09:07] <Ven0mSevenX> hi
[09:07] <crimsun> wanglei1123: see /etc/udev and /etc/hotplug for configuration files and rules
[09:08] <perdidopunk> i wish my scsi devices were working...
[09:08] <mbs> if i want to make a particular binary in /usr/local/bin take precedence over /usr/bin, how can i set this sytemwide?
[09:08] <wanglei1123> ok , thanks all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
[09:08] <Ven0mSevenX> is there anyone here knowledgable about wireless devices and linux?
[09:08] <perdidopunk> !!!
[09:08] <ubotu> ! is, like, totally, what you add before a sentence to talk to me
[09:08] <No> server ircchat.terra.cl 7000
[09:08] <jupp> is it possible to show the entries of the mbr? how?
[09:08] <crimsun> wanglei1123: the actual module insertion is handled by insmod, passed by modprobe with dependency resolution according to a map
[09:08] <perdidopunk> maybe i'll trying some overclocking while i'm waiting !!
[09:08] <mbs> I've always used export in ~/.bashrc to make all of /usr/local/bin hav precedence, but that feels like a ginormous hack
[09:09] <irvin> hey robotgeek_work
[09:09] <chaumurky> overclock that BIOS baby
[09:09] <Ven0mSevenX> anyone?
[09:09] <chaumurky> no
[09:09] <wanglei1123> crimsum: ok , thank u sooooooooooooooooooooooooo much !! : ) ..
[09:10] <Ven0mSevenX> does anyone here use ndiswrapper?
[09:10] <Ven0mSevenX> or have set up wireless devices sucessfully?
[09:11] <perdidopunk> let
[09:11] <perdidopunk> s see
[09:11] <Ven0mSevenX> have you?
[09:11] <diubidone> hey how come repositories don't work?
[09:11] <mbs> Ven0mSevenX, yes, I used to use ndiswrapper
[09:11] <mbs> a long time ago
[09:11] <perdidopunk> i think 200->220 is a good enough overclock
[09:12] <Ven0mSevenX> mbs: okay well i got it working great, my problem comes when actually connecting to my router
[09:12] <irvin> diubidone, they are. what's the problem?
[09:12] <perdidopunk> posted... let's see if i can get to my kernel panic
[09:12] <perdidopunk> hahaha
[09:12] <Ven0mSevenX> i use "wifiradar
[09:12] <Ven0mSevenX> "
[09:12] <perdidopunk> kernel panic, woo
[09:12] <perdidopunk> wait
[09:12] <perdidopunk> or not
[09:12] <Ven0mSevenX> it just gets stuck when i try to connect
[09:12] <diubidone> irwin: synaptic says to me it doesn't find some reps
[09:13] <perdidopunk> pci devices not available because of resource collisions...
[09:13] <perdidopunk> hmmm
[09:13] <mbs> ah, i'm not familiar with it
[09:13] <irvin> diubidone, are you trying to update or install new packages?
[09:13] <chaumurky> that sounds promising - try rearranging cards...
[09:13] <perdidopunk> there are only 2 cards to begin with
[09:13] <diubidone> irwin:  yes xfce
[09:13] <perdidopunk> usb controller and raid card
[09:14] <chaumurky> "GRUB loading, please wait..." hmm what's that burning smell?/?
[09:14] <perdidopunk> hahaha
[09:14] <diubidone> irwin: synaptic "http://it.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/it.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)"
[09:14] <mindmime> lol
[09:14] <perdidopunk> i set my frequency back down
[09:14] <perdidopunk> ah well...
[09:15] <perdidopunk> this motherboard sucks for overclocking, but everything else i have would be so good for it :-(
[09:15] <perdidopunk> blam, kernel panic
[09:15] <perdidopunk> uhhh
[09:15] <VIMmer> hi, i have a HP Deskjet 656C and am on Breezy
[09:15] <perdidopunk> fdomain_isa_detect
[09:15] <VIMmer> i am unable to get the printer to work on Ubuntu
[09:15] <perdidopunk> isa ??? why is it trying to detect isa devices ?
[09:15] <VIMmer> can anyone help me?
[09:15] <VIMmer> it was working on hoary
[09:16] <chaumurky> try pulling the heatsink off. You may get this... :http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5393904704265757054
[09:16] <czr> don't use future domain scsi driver perdidopunk
[09:17] <perdidopunk> AHHH
[09:17] <perdidopunk> does that say 4.2 volts vcore ??? AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
[09:17] <perdidopunk> HAHAHAHA
[09:17] <perdidopunk> WOW
[09:17] <chaumurky> blows a hole clean through the table...
[09:18] <perdidopunk> it actually exploded !!!
[09:18] <chaumurky> see - things could be worse...
[09:18] <perdidopunk> true that
[09:18] <chaumurky> you could be an idiot!
[09:18] <chaumurky> LOL!!
[09:18] <perdidopunk> that's what happens when your frequency scaling doesn't work properly because the temp sensing diode can't react fast enough...
[09:18] <perdidopunk> hahaha
[09:19] <VIMmer> what? isn't there anyone who can help me setup my printer?
[09:19] <docta_v> VIMmer, only god
[09:20] <chaumurky> no info, no help..
[09:20] <Madpilot> !printer
[09:20] <ubotu> rumour has it, printer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[09:20] <mrkoje> VIMmer,  i hate printing with linux... I did end up getting my hp all in one to work though
[09:21] <chaumurky> don't believerumours
[09:21] <Madpilot> ...and on that note, I'm off. Good night all...
[09:21] <mrkoje> VIMmer, i didn't have to do anything though!
[09:25] <VIMmer> ic
[09:25] <unless> Noobish question, I know, but I just installed a package through Synaptic (GNU Go, to be specific), not I can't find it... anyone know where programs are typically installed?
[09:25] <unless> *now
[09:25] <chaumurky> what program
[09:26] <unless> GNU Go, just a game
[09:26] <chaumurky> binaries are usually in /usr/bin/ or /usr/local/bin/
[09:26] <unless> ahhhh, so programs are typically installed to /usr...
[09:26] <unless> thanks heaps
[09:26] <czr> unless, dpkg -L package-name : lists all the filenames that were introduces with a package
[09:27] <czr> unless, man hier
[09:27] <unless> thanks czr
[09:27] <unless> and chaumurky
[09:39] <_jason> saik0, hi
[09:39] <saik0> It's alive! A miracle!
[09:39] <saik0> Ahem. hi.
[09:39] <_jason> lol
[09:39] <mrkoje> saik0, great!
[09:40] <_jason> heh, so this is what the channel is like at 4 in the morning est... quiet...
[09:41] <saik0> You say 'quiet' I call it 'serene'
[09:41] <crimsun> not necessarily a bad thing ;)
[09:42] <bustacap> hey guys..
[09:43] <_jason> hey bustacap...
[09:43] <bustacap> what's happening _jason??
[09:44] <ompaul> shhh ubuntu is spreading
[09:44] <kayde> ok guys, i am runniong ubuntu 5.04 and i use a trident microsystems cyber 9525 vidio card and i have funny lines across bottom of screen......anyone know bout it?
[09:44] <bustacap> ompaul, haha yeah, it's asexually multiplying..
[09:45] <ompaul> kayde, nope, but I am wondering why you are running 5.04 as opposed to 5.10
[09:45] <shilbert> Hallo!
[09:46] <shilbert> Um, I have a quick question for you guys
[09:46] <ompaul> !ask
[09:46] <greg> [;
[09:46] <kayde> ompaul, i cant download it
[09:46] <ompaul> !+ask
[09:46] <ubotu> ask is probably Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important. Better questions more frequently yield better answer. Keeping the question in one line makes it easier to read. See also http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[09:47] <ompaul> kayde, http://shipit.ubuntu.com
[09:47] <shilbert> I had a hard drive go bad, and I got a backup of my root partition (no separate /home partitions or anything), but not my /boot partition
[09:47] <ompaul> kayde, request a set
[09:47] <shilbert> And I'm in knoppix at the moment with my old FS all mounted, and if I chroot to it I can run apt-get and so on
[09:48] <shilbert> So if it's possible to just "re-install" the kernel packages I had, just to get the vmlinuz files and such back, it would be very helpful
[09:48] <shilbert> (because then I could just boot directly into it just like it was before the HD problem)
[09:49] <shilbert> I don't know very much about apt-get and the whole debian/ubuntu package management tools :)
[09:49] <ompaul> shilbert, my du -h of /boot/ yeilds 23 megs
[09:49] <ompaul> shilbert, have you a new drive?
[09:50] <greg> apt-get is rather not so complicated.. and afaik you can use synaptic (a graphical user interface addon on apt-get)
[09:50] <shilbert> Yeah. I got a replacement drive. The drive kind of died in sections - the windows partition failed, and then for a while I was running the linux partition while I was waiting for the replacement drive to ship
[09:51] <ompaul> shilbert, are you going to bother reinstalling that non ubuntu operating system?
[09:51] <shilbert> Woo, synaptic runs
[09:52] <shilbert> I guess I can just find the kernel packages and tell it to mark for reinstallation
[09:52] <shilbert> that and grub
[09:52] <ompaul> shilbert, don't do anything with the old drive assuming that you don't know exactly what is dying on it - I ask again are you going to bother reinstalling that non ubuntu operating system?
[09:52] <ompaul> shilbert, umount it and think for a minute
[09:53] <shilbert> Umm, first thing - yes, I am going to reinstall windows; second thing - the drive actually has failed totally since I got my linux partition backed up
[09:53] <shilbert> the old drive.
[09:54] <shilbert> Actually, I'm not really 'reinstalling' windows, I ghosted it about a week before it started failing
[09:55] <cmatheson_> this is a stupid question... but i can't figure it out!  Does anyone know how to change the color of slides in OpenOffice Impress?
[09:56] <shilbert> Why do you ask? I don't need to come in here for peoples' opinions of what OS to install
[09:57] <ompaul> shilbert, okay well I would only rescue /etc/ and /home you don't know what blocks actually failed on the old drive - if it was physical or logical - so first up split the new drive in 4 one partition for the old stuff,  one for that non ubuntu system, reinstall that other operating system first reinstall ubuntu and then copy the data you need back onto it using the third slice for /home and then you can do what you want with the fort
[09:57] <ompaul> h segment when finished
[09:59] <CarstenP> my compact flash card reader is read only. how can i change that?
[10:01] <shilbert> I am pretty sure what happened is that some bad clusters showed up after I had moved this computer to another room and back. They started about 2 GB into the "non-ubuntu system" partition, and seemed to be isolated to about the middle of that area
[10:01] <greg> edit /etc/fstab and change ro to rw
[10:02] <shilbert> I hadn't been in the linux partition on this machine in a while, but I was able to copy everything off with no huge slowdowns or errors while reading -- so it doesn't seem like there were bad sectors in this part of the disk
[10:02] <ompaul> shilbert, well I gave you the most paranoid version of what I would do, I certainly would have no confidence in the binaries from there - what if init was damaged or other stuff that would be my concern
[10:02] <shilbert> I'm not really concerned with the partitioning scheme ATM though; I think I found out what I need to know to get this running
[10:03] <shilbert> Yeah, that's true -- I have no way of really knowing the binaries work.
[10:04] <shilbert> I still have a "raw" backup sitting on an external hard drive - if I boot from it and it garbles it, I haven't lost anything at all
[10:04] <shilbert> If I boot from the new hard drive, I mean.
[10:05] <shilbert> Is there an apt-get parallel to synaptic's "mark for reinstallation?" Synaptic bugs out when I try to apply changes from within this chroot environment
[10:05] <shilbert> (hopefully it's the environment and not the binaries :P)
[10:06] <ompaul> shilbert, I would imagine it is as you suggest - sudo apt-get install foo foo2 foo44 foo50
[10:06] <shilbert> Well, see, since it caches the list of packages I have installed, it just assumes it's still installed
[10:07] <shilbert> when I've lost part of the files to go with it
[10:07] <shilbert> let me try apt-get reinstall
[10:07] <frogzoo> ompaul: works for me
[10:07] <shilbert> hmm, no such thing
[10:07] <shilbert> ahh, there's a --reinstall switch
[10:07] <ompaul> shilbert, you could at least use a ubuntu live CD and get the same results
[10:08] <ompaul> shilbert, and your repos just might be pointing somewhere sane
[10:09] <ompaul> anyway enough chat - chat in #ubuntu-offtopic this has turned into a $meta_coversation about confidence, me well I am off to enjoy coffee and toast
[10:24] <Inf3ctedFx> Hello everyone
[10:24] <walkingice> Inf3ctedFx: Hello~~
[10:25] <Inf3ctedFx> Hey walkingice how r u... kind of quite here.... isn't it?
[10:26] <MrBlowtatoes> Hello
[10:26] <walkingice> Inf3ctedFx:  yup :D      (sorry, I am not good in English  :P)
[10:26] <MrBlowtatoes> can someoen refresh my memory, is there a command similar to apt-get i can use in a vannila debian install, to turn my diustro into ubuntu?..i rmeebr soemthgin liek this, but it ahs lost me
[10:26] <Inf3ctedFx> dont worry walkingice  me neither lol
[10:27] <walkingice> infernall:      :-)
[10:27] <Inf3ctedFx> just  a simple question, do u know a better website to downdload skins for xmms and gnome? beside gnome-look?
[10:28] <saik0> Inf3ctedFx art.gnome.org
[10:28] <Inf3ctedFx> ohh ok thx that website also to get skins for xmms?
[10:28] <saik0> Inf3ctedFx, nope
[10:28] <saik0> xmms skins are winamp2 skins
[10:28] <Glossary> do you know how i can download hybrid with its services?
[10:28] <Glossary> :P
[10:28] <Inf3ctedFx> do u know the website?
[10:28] <ompaul> MrBlowtatoes, which debian are you running expermential or woody/sarge?
[10:28] <Glossary> and where would they be after installation? not the deb files!
[10:28] <soundray> MrBlowtatoes, you would use apt-get for that. Just make sure you have an Ubuntu repositories file (/etc/apt/sources.list)
[10:29] <MrBlowtatoes> sarge
[10:29] <saik0> Glossary: all over the place
[10:29] <Glossary> lol
[10:29] <Glossary> later man
[10:29] <Glossary> goodnight/morning #ubuntu
[10:29] <Glossary> im outty
[10:29] <ompaul> MrBlowtatoes, well I would not do it then, as sarge was released later than 5.10 iirc
[10:30] <MrBlowtatoes> ok, but here si the thing, currently, my  OS installation is roughly @GB, will migrateing to ubuntu increase this size? [i have an 8gb HD, so it is not a good thing] 
[10:30] <ompaul> MrBlowtatoes, if you were on woody I would say fire away
[10:30] <MrBlowtatoes> sarge is out dated
[10:30] <saik0> ompaul pretty sure sarge release was before 5.10 freeze
[10:30] <saik0> MrBlowtatoes, sarge is'nt outdated, it's stable =)
[10:30] <MrBlowtatoes> stable shable
[10:30] <soundray> I upgraded sarge to breezy without much of a problem.
[10:30] <MrBlowtatoes> shmable*
[10:31] <MrBlowtatoes> how do i go about doign this?, without increaseing my OS space too much?
[10:31] <Inf3ctedFx> i did it from horay to breezy .. really easy... in the ubuntu forum will show u how
[10:31] <MrBlowtatoes> ubuntuforums.org?
[10:31] <ompaul> saik0,  Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 (a.k.a. sarge) was released on 6th of June, 2005
[10:31] <MrBlowtatoes> already got a pos tthere about this
[10:31] <saik0> breezy uses gcc 4
[10:31] <ompaul> 5.10 was released in april
[10:32] <ompaul> sorry october
[10:32] <walkingice> Inf3ctedFx:  http://thelinuxbox.org/Artwork.php   <--- I get the skin for my xmms
[10:32] <soundray> MrBlowtatoes, since you have 8 Gig, I would just do the upgrade, then weed out unneeded packages.
[10:32] <Inf3ctedFx> thx walkingice
[10:32] <MrBlowtatoes> ubtunu uses yeah, the weeding is the hard part [i am what some would call a n00b to linux] 
[10:32] <MrBlowtatoes> er
[10:32] <MrBlowtatoes> i changed idea sin mid sentance there
[10:33] <ompaul> MrBlowtatoes http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325
[10:33] <ompaul> that is the list of repos that you need
[10:33] <MrBlowtatoes> paste this into sources.list?
[10:33] <saik0> MrBlowtatoes apt-get upgrade wont really take any more space. installing ubuntu-desktop will
[10:33] <MrBlowtatoes> er
[10:33] <MrBlowtatoes> can i use KDE [which i already ahve insatlled] 
[10:34] <MrBlowtatoes> ?
[10:34] <MrBlowtatoes> ubuntu-desktop is a desktop environmnt right?
[10:34] <ompaul> MrBlowtatoes, really I would d/l a cd called kubuntu and install from scratch
[10:34] <MrBlowtatoes> no cd burner
[10:34] <ompaul> MrBlowtatoes, ubuntu is gnome
[10:34] <MrBlowtatoes> i did, how ever, order 5 free cds
[10:34] <MrBlowtatoes> i'm not going to use gnome
[10:34] <saik0> MrBlowtatoes ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage for a gnome desktop out-of-the box
[10:35] <saik0> MrBlowtatoes kubuntu-desktop is the same for KDE
[10:35] <saik0> MrBlowtatoes, you can guess what Xubuntu-desktop is
[10:35] <MrBlowtatoes> so i should get kubuntu?
[10:35] <ompaul> MrBlowtatoes, yeap
[10:35] <MrBlowtatoes> do all these desktops come on the cd?
[10:35] <MrBlowtatoes> or diffreent cd for eahc desktop?
[10:36] <saik0> Sarge uses gcc3.4 and breezy uses gcc4. I'm not smart enough to know wherther or not thats going to be an issue
[10:36] <unymobil> does anyone know how to recover the login from swat?
[10:36] <MrBlowtatoes> does ubuntu require more than one partition?
[10:36] <dragoon> MrBlowtatoes: one for / one for swap like any other linux system
[10:37] <MrBlowtatoes> debian uses one partition
[10:37] <saik0> MrBlowtatoes, no. but I always recomment at least 4 / /boot /home and /swap
[10:37] <saik0> for a desktop
[10:37] <MrBlowtatoes> can't really partiton 4 with *gb
[10:37] <MrBlowtatoes> 8GB
[10:38] <MrBlowtatoes> how big does the swap partiton need to be?
[10:38] <saik0> MrBlowtatoes well you can. it's just less convinient. but theres no place /home in the even you break something
[10:38] <ompaul> ram*2 is typical
[10:38] <oga> Where can I find a list of whats installed in a default installation of brezzy
[10:38] <MrBlowtatoes> i won't break much
[10:39] <MonsieurBon> does somebody know about mysql server? it can't connect to port 3306. Changing the port does not solve the problem...
[10:39] <MrBlowtatoes> so, what is better, getting new ubuntu cd or jsut apt-getting?
[10:39] <soundray> ompaul, coffee's ready. How do I get some to you, Federal Expresso?
[10:39] <MrBlowtatoes> in my situaiton asnywas
[10:39] <saik0> MrBlowtatoes, if you wont lose anything. I'd always go with CD
[10:39] <ompaul> oga, apt-cache show ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop
[10:39] <MrBlowtatoes> heh, my HD is clean
[10:39] <ompaul> soundray, yes please
[10:40] <MrBlowtatoes> how long does it typically take to get ubuntu cds in the mail? [i'm in memphis TN] 
[10:40] <ompaul> MrBlowtatoes, when did you order
[10:40] <saik0> MrBlowtatoes, can you download and burn the ISO?
[10:40] <MrBlowtatoes> today
[10:40] <MrBlowtatoes> 10 minuets ago
[10:40] <MrBlowtatoes> no
[10:41] <ompaul> MrBlowtatoes, a couple of weeks - but you got christmas in there - so that will do some damage to any projection I make
[10:41] <saik0> do you know someone who can? My cds took a monthish
[10:41] <oga> ompaul, ok thanks. do you got a website with the same info? because im not running breezy right now.
[10:41] <MrBlowtatoes> ugh
[10:41] <ompaul> MrBlowtatoes, you must know someone with a burner
[10:41] <MrBlowtatoes> how many cds is ubuntu?
[10:41] <saik0> 1 Live 1 INstall
[10:41] <MrBlowtatoes> i don't want a live cd
[10:42] <saik0> they come together
[10:42] <MrBlowtatoes> will 1 install be enough?
[10:42] <MrBlowtatoes> on 1 cd?
[10:42] <saik0> and it's not recommended you order just 1, as the cost of shipping would be higher than the cost of the CD (for canonical)
[10:42] <ompaul> oga, what specifically do you want to know is there a particular package or something after all the CD does not contain all 17.5k packages that are available for the base install  the internet needs to be used for that
[10:42] <MrBlowtatoes> well, my mother has a cd burner, ajnd i only have 1 cdrw, lol
[10:42] <MrBlowtatoes> i ordered 5
[10:43] <MrBlowtatoes> 17 thousand packages?
[10:43] <oga> ompaul, I would like to know whats packages being installed on a computer, doing a default, standard install.
[10:43] <MrBlowtatoes> damn
[10:43] <saik0> MrBlowtatoes. If you're comfotable giving me your mailing adress I suppose I could mail you one =)
[10:43] <MrBlowtatoes> 8GBs isn't enough for 17k packages
[10:43] <ompaul> MrBlowtatoes, that is everything which you don't have of debian either not the minimum
[10:43] <MrBlowtatoes> rmeebr, my OS + KDE needs to be atleast udner 2GB
[10:43] <bungle> hi
[10:44] <Badm4n> ehllo
[10:44] <Badm4n> hello
[10:44] <ompaul> oga, I really don't know I could dcc that to you
[10:44] <oga> yeah sure =)
[10:44] <MrBlowtatoes> sure saik0
[10:44] <oga> w8
[10:44] <oga> ok.
[10:44] <oga> have changed my dcc settings now.
[10:45] <ompaul> oga, there may be a few others but that would be 99% like the compiler is on the disk but not installed in the first run (as granny most likely will not want it etc)
[10:45] <Badm4n> i have been tried to use ipmassq and edit /etc/ipmasq/rules/A80firewall.def ... then i put EXTERNAL_TCP_ALLOW="80 443" .. why my client still can access other port ?
[10:45] <oga> ompaul, k
[10:45] <saik0>  /msg me your mialing addy
[10:45] <MrBlowtatoes>  ./msg are disabled
[10:45] <saik0> really though...you dont know nayone who could just burn it for you and GIVE you a cd?
[10:45] <MrBlowtatoes>  :/
[10:46] <MrBlowtatoes> how many cds is it?
[10:46] <saik0> the install would only be 1
[10:46] <MrBlowtatoes> if it's 1 cd, i can do it
[10:46] <Badm4n> help urgent i have been tried to use ipmassq and edit /etc/ipmasq/rules/A80firewall.def ... then i put EXTERNAL_TCP_ALLOW="80 443" .. why my client still can access other port ?
[10:46] <soundray> Badm4n, perhaps you need to restart ipmasq?
[10:46] <Badm4n> hmm
[10:46] <Badm4n> /etc/init.d/ipmassq restart>?
[10:47] <MrBlowtatoes> now, with this one CD, can i install and keep it under 2GB?
[10:47] <Badm4n> brb
[10:47] <Badm4n> restart
[10:47] <soundray> Badm4n, one s
[10:47] <MrBlowtatoes> if i can, then i gots no qualms
[10:47] <dpupp> need a little help here....... i type: <  dmesg | grep -i "SCSI device"
[10:47] <dpupp>   > and i get nothing back from the terminal.
[10:47] <ompaul> MrBlowtatoes, have some qualms cos it will not be a really useful system
[10:47] <oga> cool, theres alot of packages have to be installed to get the system work =)
[10:47] <Badm4n> soundray : still same
[10:48] <saik0> MrBlowtatoes my installation is under 2 gigs with extra apps
[10:48] <Badm4n> my client still can use FTP SSH telnet etc etc
[10:48] <ompaul> MrBlowtatoes, iirc it is 1.8G for the minimum that leaves you with 200M for yourself to play with
[10:48] <dpupp> i need a really good how-to on mounting a usb drive. could someone point me in the right direction?
[10:48] <MrBlowtatoes> most of the sutff on this debian install i'm not sueing, i doubt ubuntu adding more to me will make it less suefull
[10:48] <soundray> Badm4n, I'm not the firewall expert, but I heard that firestarter is fairly easy to use.
[10:48] <chrisx1> any1 know why my evolution mail keeps bugging
[10:48] <Badm4n> i use ipmassq during to handle my iptables rules too
[10:49] <Badm4n> cause im newbie here
[10:49] <MrBlowtatoes> what is included in the minmum geenrally?
[10:49] <oga> anyone tried this "ubuntu-lite" install? > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98233
[10:49] <MrBlowtatoes> OS + KDE atleast?
[10:49] <saik0> MrBlowtatoes yes
[10:49] <MrBlowtatoes> that's what i did with debian
[10:50] <Badm4n> soundray, if i use firestarter should i apt-get remove my ipmassq ?
[10:50] <saik0> strange that kubuntu comes with k3b and ubuntu-desktop is devoid og gnome-baker
[10:50] <ompaul> MrBlowtatoes, to do that you need to do server install and then kubuntu-desktop if you use a CD and as this is all ifs and ands get a CD and talk to us about what to do before you launch into the install
[10:50] <soundray> Badm4n, no, if there's a conflict, apt-get will warn you.
[10:51] <saik0> ompaul, theres a kubuntu cd
[10:51] <ompaul> saik0, but he says he ordered ubuntu
[10:51] <MrBlowtatoes> the cds i rodered form the site, they coem with kubuntu?
[10:51] <ompaul> they have it on the CD
[10:51] <MrBlowtatoes> ok
[10:51] <ompaul> MrBlowtatoes, sit back wait when you have them then we can help you more
[10:52] <saik0> MrBlowtatoes, well make sure you download and burn a kubuntu CD =)
[10:52] <MrBlowtatoes> ?
[10:52] <ompaul> saik0, he said he does not have a burner
[10:52] <nirrimi> hi
[10:52] <MrBlowtatoes> i'm getting them in the mail, no need to burn
[10:52] <MrBlowtatoes> my mother does
[10:52] <MrBlowtatoes> and i have 1 single blank cd
[10:52] <Badm4n> ok
[10:52] <Badm4n> firestarter running
[10:52] <Badm4n> what shoul i put
[10:52] <Badm4n> to block all port from client except 80 and 443
[10:53] <MrBlowtatoes> anyways, i'm getting tired, i think i'll hit the bed for tonight
[10:53] <saik0> MrBlowtatoes, yes. if you're going to wait you will need to do a "server" install and then apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[10:53] <MrBlowtatoes> i have been swithcing through linux distros for the past 3 days
[10:53] <MrBlowtatoes> i'll discuss it with you all before i install to double check
[10:53] <MrBlowtatoes> if all else fails, i got 5 diffrent operateing systems i ca install
[10:53] <MrBlowtatoes> lol
[10:53] <saik0> heh
[10:54] <MrBlowtatoes> and 2 live cds
[10:54] <MrBlowtatoes> AND another windowsxp machine
[10:54] <ompaul> MrBlowtatoes, at this stage it is a conversation please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:54] <MrBlowtatoes> anyways,
[10:54] <MrBlowtatoes> night all
[10:54] <ompaul> MrBlowtatoes, night
[10:54] <soundray> Badm4n, as I say I don't know much about firewalls on Ubuntu. Look in /usr/share/doc/firestarter, maybe starting with README.Debian. Try man firestarter. Look at config files in /etc/firestarter, etc.
[10:55] <Badm4n> ok
[10:55] <saik0> I'm out too
[10:55] <saik0> goodnight
[10:55] <ajmitch> evening
[10:55] <ompaul> ajmitch, it is always morning on IRC unless you are leaving :-)
[10:55] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> lol.
[10:57] <ajmitch> always evening somewhere, just as it's always morning :)
[10:58] <ompaul> ajmitch, I was only quoting IRC rule 127.0.0.1 ......    :-)
[10:58] <twibbler> morning all. I wonder if somebody could give me a list of repositories please. Im specifically after the mstfonts.
[10:58] <syklitengutt> is it any k3b gurus out there?
[10:59] <soundray> twibbler, msttcorefonts is in multiverse. Just go through your existing /etc/apt/sources.list and activate it.
[10:59] <ajmitch> twibbler: enable multiverse
[10:59] <ompaul> zoyd, please don't do that
[10:59] <ajmitch> zoyd: stop that
[10:59] <twibbler> thank you.
[10:59] <zoyd> oops sorry
[10:59] <ajmitch> twibbler: msttcorefonts, btw :)
[10:59] <ompaul> zoyd, there are over 600 in here if we all did it would make the chan unusable
[10:59] <Inf3ctedFx> does anybody knows a website it show me how to make aTerm transparency?
[11:00] <ajmitch> and the ops will pounce on you :)
[11:01] <syklitengutt> anyone who can help me with k3b? get this error on ./configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[11:01] <ajmitch> syklitengutt: why are you trying to compile k3b?
[11:01] <soundray> syklitengutt, any particular reason for you not to install the deb package?
[11:01] <syklitengutt> to get the newest version?
[11:01] <ajmitch> it just means you don't have gcc installed, but you'll need a lot more than that
[11:02] <soundray> syklitengutt, does the newest version have anything that you need urgently?
[11:02] <syklitengutt> have installed the whole list... missed gcc then.
[11:02] <ajmitch> syklitengutt: install build-essential while you're at it
[11:02] <soundray> syklitengutt, ...that the current Ubuntu package hasn't got?
[11:03] <syklitengutt> hmmmm... proborlie not. need to burn some vcds that is cue files at the time and some mp3s.
[11:03] <ajmitch> evening bob2
[11:04] <bob2> aloha.
[11:04] <stewski> hello are there any ubuntu/edubuntu developers in here?
[11:04] <soundray> syklitengutt, if you do decide to compile the latest, do an apt-get build-deps k3b first. No guarantees, but it'll probably easier after that.
[11:04] <syklitengutt> ok... il try
[11:04] <bob2> stewski: lots of them
[11:05] <ompaul> stewski, ask your question and someone may answer
[11:05] <stewski> OK just read this might be of interest
[11:05] <soundray> syklitengutt, apt-get build-dep k3b (sorry)
[11:05] <ompaul> stewski, was that your question? :-)
[11:05] <stewski> http://www.bloggingbaby.com/entry/1234000340071196/
[11:05] <stewski> yeah not got a problem just came on to say you guys are heros
[11:06] <gnomefreak> is it safe to burn programs i wrote to cd and than install them later? they should just run after reinstaled right?
[11:07] <soundray> gnomefreak, you're unintelligible.
[11:07] <stewski> harsh
[11:08] <ajmitch> stewski: interesting review
[11:08] <bob2> that is uneccesserily harsh
[11:08] <bob2> and I'm a terrible speller
[11:08] <bob2> film at 11
[11:08] <ajmitch> bob2: you should see how I've been typing lately
[11:08] <stewski> well I think its a useful attempt but I thought edubuntu was more aimed at people offering IT in education (which Im hoping to do)
[11:09] <ompaul> stewski, #edubuntu also
[11:09] <ompaul> stewski, and #ubuntu-devel
[11:09] <gnomefreak> soundray this is a help channel not a bs channel if you cant seem to help me when i ask a question why comment at all?
[11:09] <bob2> gnomefreak: come on, no need to escalate it further
[11:09] <mrkoje> gnomefreak,  what is your question? It made no sense... can you burn programs to cd that you already burned to a cd? the same cd?
[11:10] <|Gmp|> hello people
[11:10] <stewski> should I take that link to edubuntu?
[11:10] <bob2> ajmitch: I blame ibm!
[11:10] <soundray> gnomefreak, I'm trying to help, but your question makes it impossible, because it doesn't make sense. Please rephrase.
[11:10] <ompaul> stewski, why not
[11:10] <|Gmp|> what things do i need to install to compile something from source?
[11:10] <bob2> |Gmp|: install build-essential
[11:10] <robotgeek> |Gmp|: build-essential
[11:10] <|Gmp|> uh...
[11:10] <bob2> for a start; you'll almost certainly need more
[11:11] <|Gmp|> how do i do that?
[11:11] <bob2> |Gmp|: what are you trying to compile?
[11:11] <|Gmp|> apt-get install build-essentiol?
[11:11] <|Gmp|> megazeux
[11:11] <Syruss> anyone here know a work-around for the skype/ubuntu  skype: Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3.2) but it is not installable problem? I've followed several guides, all of no use :/
[11:11] <robotgeek> |Gmp|: no, the app
[11:11] <MikeMan> hello
[11:11] <|Gmp|> http://digitalmzx.net
[11:11] <robotgeek> !skype
[11:11] <ubotu> it has been said that skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:11] <Syruss> sigh.
[11:11] <bob2> Syruss: use the static tarball, not the broken packages
[11:11] <Seveas> !robotgeek
[11:11] <ubotu> Seveas: Wish i knew
[11:11] <robotgeek> Syruss: i believe that issue has been fixed that deb? no?
[11:11] <Syruss> I'll try those :p
[11:12] <oga> what is the long for deb
[11:12] <Syruss> static tarball eh?
[11:12] <Syruss> cheers
[11:12] <robotgeek> Seveas: :) hey, i can't help it if you have the hilite :)
[11:12] <ompaul> gnomefreak, i read your question for three times what I think you asked was - if you take .deb files and put them on a CD can you install them later just pop them in /var/cache/apt/archives - and then you can install them to your hearts content - however I am only 80% certain this is what you asked - your question does leave a lot of room for it not to have been your question
[11:12] <oga> extended word for dev?
[11:12] <oga> deb
[11:12] <gnomefreak> i wrote programs. i may need to lose everything. can i burn the ones i wrote to cd so i dont have to re-write them again? after burning them to cd will they be installable and work after i bring everything back up?
[11:12] <bob2> gnomefreak: yes, your burnt cd will store whatever you burn on there
[11:13] <ompaul> gnomefreak, as long as it is the "pre installed" version of the programs - so grab your source and packages and run with them to the burner :)
[11:13] <robotgeek> Seveas: doesn't your binary for skype fix all those problems that Syruss is having?
[11:13] <Seveas> yes
[11:13] <oga> how do you guys define: .deb? / deb ?
[11:14] <Syruss> this tarball version is alright, it's just slow and looks crap
[11:14] <Seveas> oga, what do you mean?
[11:14] <bob2> oga: it's a Debian format package
[11:14] <robotgeek> Syruss: get the deb from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:14] <oga> bob2. k. thanks.
[11:14] <ndlovu> hey all - where should I submit bug reports for openoffice? with ubuntu or with OOo?
[11:14] <oga> its a packagefilename. aight.
[11:14] <robotgeek> ndlovu: ubuntu bugzilla
[11:14] <gnomefreak> ok good ty and 1 more question i compiled links2 from source? is there a way to put that on disk so i dont have to re-compile it if i lose everything?
[11:15] <ndlovu> robotgeek: thanks
[11:15] <robotgeek> ndlovu: it's the standard open office right? if so, http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[11:15] <bob2> gnomefreak: it's all just files, dude
[11:15] <bob2> gnomefreak: just backup and restore whatever you want
[11:15] <ndlovu> robotgeek: yup
[11:15] <|Gmp|> do i need to install any dependencies for build-essencial
[11:15] <gnomefreak> ok ty
[11:15] <dragoon> apt installs it all for you
[11:15] <Syruss> cheers guys
[11:15] <Seveas> |Gmp|, yes, build essential is a mere metapackage
[11:15] <bob2> |Gmp|: of course...
[11:15] <ompaul> |Gmp|, as dragoon said
[11:15] <robotgeek> |Gmp|: installing build-essential setup your your system for compiling and stuff
[11:15] <soundray> gnomefreak, if you backup the entire source directory, you can just rerun sudo make install from inside it after restore.
[11:16] <|Gmp|> ok i installed it without any errors
[11:16] <soundray> gnomefreak, why do you have to reinstall?
[11:16] <ompaul> Seveas, not mere - that would indicate that it was hollow and empty and devoid of usefulness, surely if that were the case it would never have been made :-)
[11:16] <MikeMan> does anyone here know about the "osx dock" for linux here?
[11:16] <oga> MikeMan, yeah. check out gnome-look.org
[11:17] <oga> and search for osx
[11:17] <ompaul> I'd say ooch but you have to catch me first :)
[11:17] <|Gmp|> can you install like fluxbox in ubuntu?
[11:17] <dragoon> yes
[11:17] <gnomefreak> im not sure if im putting winblows back on here for my  java class comming up and i tried to putu winblows on hdb and its complaining about partion issues ubuntu is on hda
[11:17] <Seveas> |Gmp|, apt-get install fluxbox
[11:17] <|Gmp|> heh
[11:17] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell |Gmp| about repos
[11:17] <robotgeek> |Gmp|: you need to enable universe firest
[11:17] <ompaul> dragoon, can you type the persons name at the start of a line it is hard to figure out who you are answering
[11:17] <robotgeek> *first*
[11:18] <soundray> gnomefreak, can you just switch your hard disk drives around?
[11:18] <Seveas> gnomefreak, a) It's windows, not winblows b) 'partition issues' is very descriptive...
[11:18] <|Gmp|> robotgeek, i have
[11:18] <dragoon> ompaul: can do
[11:18] <robotgeek> |Gmp|: cool :)
[11:18] <ompaul> dragoon, :)
[11:18] <oga> is there any skins for fluxbox?
[11:18] <dragoon> oga: yea heaps - fluxbox site has some nice ones
[11:19] <soundray> gnomefreak, you'd have to fix /boot/grub/menu.lst and /etc/fstab, and reinstall grub.
[11:19] <Syruss> suxbox
[11:19] <oga> k thanks.
[11:19] <Seveas> Syruss: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct
[11:19] <MiSS_n00b> how do i restart x server
[11:19] <Seveas> MiSS_n00b, <ctrl><alt><del>
[11:19] <|Gmp|> robotgeek, i suppose i have because i installed mp3 support and it said that i had to enable universal and i did what it said so i suppose it worked
[11:19] <syklitengutt> and a little help with ff. I tried the new 1.5 but I cant get any plugins to work. I tried it trough the wiki/newfirefox etc. but now with 1.0.7 I have a problem. when trying to play f.ex wmv files or mpg files, it just play a couple of secounds (with totem, and the totem plugin). so how do I set mediaplayer as default video app. its installed, and the plugin is installed.
[11:19] <gnomefreak> well it tells me that they are not win2k partions so using gparted i got rid of them all and made one big partion fat32 still no go
[11:19] <Seveas> MiSS_n00b, <ctrl><alt><bksp> <-- sorry that one
[11:19] <ajmitch> Seveas: backspace, you mean :)
[11:19] <robotgeek> |Gmp|: yes
[11:19] <MikeMan> thx oga
[11:19] <Seveas> ajmitch, yeah, not too awake yet :)
[11:19] <syklitengutt> sorry for ling post.
[11:19] <oga> np
[11:20] <ajmitch> Seveas: have some of my caffiene
[11:20] <MiSS_n00b> what do i type in there to restart it
[11:20] <Syruss> I was just saying, fluxbox isn't my cup of tea...bit too l33t h4x0r. I think gnome is best.
[11:20] <bob2> MiSS_n00b: why do you want to restart it?
[11:20] <MiSS_n00b> it closes it and i dont know what to type to bring it back
[11:20] <soundray> gnomefreak, you probably missed setting the partition type.
[11:20] <Seveas> syklitengutt, sudo rm /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libtotem*
[11:20] <MiSS_n00b> i installed vid drivers
[11:20] <oga> gnome is very nice, but not very responsive on my machines :/
[11:20] <Seveas> ajmitch, thanks :)
[11:20] <ompaul> oga, so xubuntu is what you want
[11:20] <bob2> MiSS_n00b: you're reading incorrect and confusing documentation
[11:20] <ajmitch> Syruss: that's nice, but people do want to use fluxbox, if we all give our opinions it could get heated here :)
[11:20] <oga> what wm xubuntu use?
[11:20] <syklitengutt> that removes it, so does mplayer get standard then?
[11:21] <ompaul> oga, x fce
[11:21] <MiSS_n00b> "Close all your applications, then press Ctrl-Alt-Backspace to restart the X server. If you see an nVidia splashscreen after hitting Ctrl-Alt-Backspace, your drivers are properly installed.
[11:21] <oga> ompaul, k, are there any other things make xubuntu faster?
[11:21] <gnomefreak> soundray,  i think not formatting it made it spit errors but i didnt see a format choice in gparted
[11:21] <MiSS_n00b> "
[11:21] <oga> than just a regular breezy install.
[11:21] <Syruss> that's fair enough
[11:21] <ompaul> oga, the wm is lightweight
[11:21] <bob2> MiSS_n00b: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:21] <olli_> hey people, where would I find the default Firefox directory? I tried find, with no avail...
[11:21] <robotgeek> olli_: ~/.mozilla/firefox/
[11:21] <MiSS_n00b> yeah...
[11:21] <Seveas> olli_, default for what?
[11:22] <Seveas> firefox has a few places of its own..
[11:22] <olli_> Hoary, if that's what you mean
[11:22] <soundray> gnomefreak, I see. Having created a partition for FAT32, you want to run mkdosfs -F32 on it.
[11:22] <ompaul> oga, I find it fast on a 128meg / 9gig hd 500mhz box
[11:22] <olli_> I want the plugins directory
[11:22] <bob2> olli_: what do you mean by "default"?
[11:22] <robotgeek> olli_: that's where all your settings are stored.
[11:22] <bob2> olli_: dpkg -L firefox | grep /usr/lib
[11:22] <robotgeek> olli_: then yes, there in the profiles directory
[11:22] <MikeMan> hey in ubuntu, 5.10 my mouse is really toutchy is there anyway to fix it, thanks
[11:22] <olli_> oh, okay, thanks
[11:22] <ompaul> oga, btw the video card on that is 8megs in size
[11:22] <MiSS_n00b> but what do i type in after pressing ctrl alt bkspc to get back to the gui thingy
[11:22] <robotgeek> olli_: plugins or extensions?
[11:22] <olli_> plugins
[11:23] <olli_> installing jre
[11:23] <oga> ompaul, hehe k. are there any other things make xubuntu faster? except the WM.
[11:23] <robotgeek> olli_: then refer to bob2's statement
[11:23] <Seveas> !tell olli_ about java
[11:23] <gnomefreak> so i wanna run sudo mkdosfs -F32 hdb? and that will format it and set it as fat32 ?
[11:24] <ompaul> oga, like what tuning your hardware and adding ram stripping down binaries beyond some level that is reasonable
[11:24] <soundray> gnomefreak, !!not hdb!!
[11:24] <Syruss> skype :)
[11:24] <Syruss> cheers Seveas
[11:24] <Syruss> I even have nice translucent menus :p
[11:24] <soundray> gnomefreak, mkdosfs -F32 /dev/hdb1 if it's the first partition on hdb
[11:25] <gnomefreak> ok i see
[11:26] <olli_> okay, thanks guys, ~/.mozilla/ was what I needed
[11:26] <gnomefreak> qhats the command to veiw hds?
[11:27] <gnomefreak> view*
[11:27] <bob2> what does viewing a hard drive mean?
[11:27] <|Gmp|> ls
[11:27] <|Gmp|> cd /mnt/hd
[11:27] <soundray> gnomefreak, System-Administration-Disks
[11:27] <|Gmp|> ls
[11:27] <gnomefreak> ty
[11:28] <Seveas> gnomefreak, apply /dev/screwdriver /dev/case && watch
[11:28] <irvin> dmesg | grep hd
[11:28] <oga> I think a good idea when tuning and stripping down systems, install other WM etc. Is to first of all install a default breezy install. And then later, remove thinks you dont like. (and add things you'd like..) Is this a good method, or do you prefer 'server'.
[11:28] <soundray> Come on guys, gnomefreak's had enough teasing.
[11:28] <wegi> hi guys, I'll become guests from america and I have added a guest account on my (german) ubuntu instalation, how can I switch that specific account to english?
[11:29] <Seveas> wegi, let them choose english when logging in
[11:29] <Seveas> oga, if you want to keep it small, start with a server install and build up
[11:29] <soundray> gnomefreak, sorry I upset you earlier. With 'unintelligible' I meant 'incomprehensible'. I didn't mean to say anything about your intelligence :)
[11:29] <wegi> Seveas: wow parsed all menus but never ever thought of such a simple solution :( thx :)
[11:30] <gnomefreak> soundray, its alright i just didnt expect to see that at 5am
[11:30] <oga> yeah, wegi. I think you can choose what language at the gnome-loginmanager.
[11:30] <gnomefreak> ill brb i gotta see if this worked
[11:32] <[Jonne] > how can I update to a more recent version of MySQL in breezy?
[11:33] <YukiIkyuta> [Jonne] , how recent?
[11:33] <soundray> [Jonne] , apt-get install mysql-server-4.1
[11:33] <mrkoje> [Jonne] , I think MySql 5 is the latest
[11:33] <[Jonne] > i'm running 4.0.24 now, while my host has 4.1.14, this causes problems with charsets
[11:33] <oga> are the fonts in ubuntu "free software"?
[11:34] <[Jonne] > 4.1 will do, thanks
[11:34] <oga> or are those some kind of restricted packages.
[11:34] <soundray> [Jonne] , in that case, probably apt-get isntall mysql-client-4.1
[11:34] <Seveas> oga, not all fonts are completely free
[11:34] <|Gmp|> how do i install flash player
[11:34] <|Gmp|> im downloading it
[11:34] <[Jonne] > client?
[11:35] <[Jonne] > i want to update the server
[11:35] <Seveas> but the ones from main are all free to use & distribute
[11:35] <|Gmp|> what?
[11:35] <Seveas> |Gmp|, apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[11:35] <soundray> [Jonne] , okay, I thought you meant server when you said host.
[11:36] <rockin_stan> morgen zusammen
[11:36] <[Jonne] > it just causes problems when exporting the db from the host, and when i want to import it into my local install to mess with my website locally
[11:36] <soundray> rockin_stan, geh mal zu #ubuntu-de :)
[11:36] <|Gmp|> Seveas,  la
[11:36] <|Gmp|> Reading package lists... Done
[11:36] <|Gmp|> Building dependency tree... Done
[11:36] <|Gmp|> E: Couldn't find package flashplayer-mozilla
[11:36] <dragoon> ubotu: tell |Gmp| about paste
[11:37] <Seveas> !tell |Gmp| about multiverse
[11:37] <soundray> dragoon, that wasn't too schwierig, though, was it?
[11:37] <Seveas> (you need multiverse)
[11:37] <Badm4n> any1 here understand about ipmassq rulez ?
[11:37] <[Jonne] > why doesn't ubuntu install the latest version of mysql by default?
[11:38] <[Jonne] > is there other software i should update that way?
[11:38] <soundray> [Jonne] , because mysql 3.x is very solid and reliable.
[11:39] <[Jonne] > but i had 4.0
[11:39] <soundray> [Jonne] , if you installed 4.1 with apt-get, it will have updated everything it depends on as well.
[11:40] <soundray> [Jonne] , erm - yes, it's 4.0 that's considered exceedingly stable.
[11:40] <[Jonne] > i know that, that's why i love it ;). I just wonder what other software is being held back for that reason
[11:40] <|Gmp|> can i insstalll it with the flashplayer-installer scripty thing that you download when clicking on the installing missing plugins in firefox
[11:40] <soundray> [Jonne] , Firefox is an example.
[11:41] <[Jonne] > is that in backports yet?
[11:41] <soundray> [Jonne] , but if you stick with Ubuntu, you don't need to worry about the integrity of the installation.
[11:41] <|Gmp|> where is firefox installled to?
[11:42] <soundray> |Gmp|, check with dpkg -L mozilla-firefox
[11:42] <sobersabre> hi is it safe to upgrade from debian-testing  to breezy badger ?
[11:42] <sobersabre> it is a server, apache2, plone.
[11:43] <sobersabre> plone+zope installed from source... so this shan't be a problem
[11:43] <ajmitch> sobersabre: you might run into a bit of pain, testing will be ahead of breezy in a few packages
[11:43] <Seveas> sobersabre, bothing carful apt pinning can't fix :)
[11:44] <ajmitch> Seveas: yes there is :)
[11:44] <soundray> sobersabre, I guess it depends on how much downtime you can afford.
[11:44] <ajmitch> Seveas: packages are not guaranteed to downgrade properly
[11:44] <Seveas> true
[11:44] <|Gmp|> is firefox install to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox
[11:45] <gnomefreak> it keeps giving me same error and there are no partions and i formatted the one big one in disks is there something im missing ha and people say linux is hard to install :(
[11:45] <irvin> |Gmp|, whereis firefox
[11:45] <|Gmp|> i tried that
[11:45] <sobersabre> soundray if it is a matter of a day, i can, but I need to hear that basically nothing will break from the base system - network connection scripts, iptable rules etc.
[11:45] <|Gmp|> it just found the executablle
[11:45] <MiSS_n00b> if i want to automatically mount my ext3 slave drive, i know i have to put an extra line is fstab but what else do i have to do
[11:45] <sobersabre> i mean I need to make sure, not 'hear' :)
[11:45] <|Gmp|> whereis mozila-firefox works though
[11:45] <soundray> sobersabre, I don't think anyone will give you a guarantee.
[11:46] <soundray> |Gmp| most of the components are in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox
[11:46] <architx> MiSS_n00b L make a filesystem on it
[11:46] <MiSS_n00b> it has files on it
[11:46] <|Gmp|> ok
[11:46] <architx> what filesystem
[11:46] <|Gmp|> i installed firefox to /home/nick/.mozilla
[11:46] <architx> ?
[11:46] <MiSS_n00b> ext3?
[11:46] <|Gmp|> i meaana flash
[11:46] <|Gmp|> yes
[11:46] <MiSS_n00b> is that the file system
[11:46] <sobersabre> soundray i don't need a 'written contract'
[11:46] <|Gmp|> ext3
[11:46] <architx> than an fstab entry will be ennuf
[11:46] <MiSS_n00b> ok cool ty
[11:46] <ajmitch> sobersabre: there will be no guarantee - you're trying to upgrade from testing, which is a moving target
[11:47] <sobersabre> just a confirmation like: done that, had a prob with this/that...
[11:47] <architx> and a manual mount if you don t want to reboot
[11:47] <ajmitch> sobersabre: testing last week is different from testing this week, so we couldn't say
[11:47] <sobersabre> ajmitch the fact is that currently there are older things in testing than in breezy.
[11:47] <ajmitch> sobersabre: there are *some* older things
[11:47] <ajmitch> not all
[11:48] <ph33r> hey, Im having trouble with the network.. Ubuntu cant seem to find my usb plugin wireless card..
[11:48] <ph33r> or, It finds it, but on "networking" it doesnt say wireless...
[11:48] <sobersabre> i haven't done a thorough search, but... most of the things are at most the same as breezy.
[11:48] <|Gmp|> how caan you make a shortcut?
[11:48] <|Gmp|> like drag aa folder onto the etop
[11:49] <|Gmp|> aand there will be shortcut of it there
[11:49] <Inf3ctedFx> how can I open aTerm from my gnome instead type the commando on my terminal everytime?
[11:49] <sobersabre> ok thanks, guys.
[11:49] <soundray> ph33r, what type of card?
[11:50] <ph33r> soundray, Avaya something..
[11:50] <ph33r> soundray, It finds the card.. but it on "networking" it just says ethernet and modem connection...
[11:50] <mbs> could someone help me with a quick route problem?
[11:50] <thoreauputic> Inf3ctedFx: right click desktop or panel, make a launcher
[11:51] <mbs> i have it set up properly on one machine, and I want to emulate that config on another
[11:51] <soundray> ph33r, how do you determine that it "finds" the card?
[11:51] <mbs> i can post the route result from the good setup
[11:51] <Inf3ctedFx> ok thomhash i got that but anothe think.. how can I keep my settings like transparency colors borders etc etc etc
[11:52] <thoreauputic> Inf3ctedFx: make the command in the launcher - like aterm -tr +sb   and so on
[11:52] <Inf3ctedFx> ohh oks
[11:52] <Inf3ctedFx> thx
[11:52] <ph33r> soundray, when I go to device manager - usb hub interface it finds, Avaya Wireless USB Adabter...
[11:52] <|Gmp|> how caan you make a shortcut?
[11:52] <|Gmp|> aand there will be shortcut of it there
[11:53] <|Gmp|> woops
[11:53] <soundray> ph33r, okay, so the USB side works. Does it load a driver module?
[11:53] <ph33r> soundray, the problem is that I can
[11:53] <ph33r> soundray, no ..
[11:54] <soundray> ph33r, it's not supported then. I have a USB adapter like that.
[11:54] <soundray> ph33r, I managed to get it to work by downloading the 2.6.15 experimental kernel.
[11:54] <ph33r> Ahh...
[11:54] <soundray> ph33r, but that broke my ATI setup.
[11:54] <ph33r> soundray, ;P argh.. the trouble! :P
[11:54] <soundray> ph33r, so I'm back to CAT5 cable...
[11:55] <ph33r> soundray, If you go into "system - administration . networking" :P
[11:55] <soundray> ph33r, yeah, curse the manufacturers.
[11:55] <ph33r> soundray, you`ll get three options? - Ethernet, Modem and Wireless?
[11:56] <soundray> ph33r, well, I didn't check that. But the interface showed with ifconfig, which I guess means the same thing.
[11:56] <ph33r> soundray, so why don
[11:57] <ph33r> soundray, dont i get the freaking wireless option!? :P
[11:57] <soundray> ph33r, because your adapter isn't supported.
[11:57] <dj_smilee|work> :o
[11:57] <dj_smilee|work> theres more people in here than in linux
[11:57] <soundray> ph33r, is this a laptop?
[11:57] <ph33r> soundray, nope.. but you know what.. I know what the problem is.. I got an HP! :P
[11:58] <dj_smilee|work> :S
[11:58] <nelposto> hey people.. i have a problem with compiling a new kernel ... every time I compile a kernel, trying to boot it from grub just results in a blank screen :(
[11:58] <Deedubb> does the ubuntu installation create a log file anywhere?
[11:59] <soundray> ph33r, the problem is that manufacturers don't open their specifications and don't provide Linux drivers for their hardware.
[11:59] <ph33r> soundray, I know I know.. but let me dream! ;P I hate HP! :P
[12:00] <soundray> Deedubb, I don't think so, but there's probably a way to find out what you want to know about your installation.
[12:00] <corresponder> moin
[12:00] <corresponder> i have a problem with dpkg in ubuntu
[12:00] <soundray> corresponder, ich glaube du suchst #ubuntu-de
[12:00] <corresponder> no
[12:00] <corresponder> ;-)
[12:00] <soundray> corresponder, ah okay :)
[12:00] <corresponder> lol
[12:01] <thoreauputic> Deedubb: /var/log/debian-installer
[12:01] <corresponder> thanks
[12:01] <thoreauputic> Deedubb: at least that looks like the one :)
[12:01] <rob1> what can I use to generate the md5 of a string?
[12:01] <corresponder> dpkg gives an error: ... process qeue: Assertion dependtry
[12:01] <corresponder> etc.
[12:01] <corresponder> <=4
[12:02] <corresponder> what tells this?
[12:02] <Deedubb> thoreauputic: perfect, thanks, the /var/log/installer/messages what I was after
[12:02] <soundray> corresponder, could you post the full error on pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl ?
[12:02] <vbgunz> I've got a wierd problem with Totem DVD playback... Just recently, movies started to state that they cannot play back because audio device is used or busy *but* if I just hit play, it plays with sound... Whats with this new error as it just started happening recently?
[12:03] <corresponder> k
[12:03] <irvin> cool
[12:03] <thoreauputic> Deedubb: I just did a "locate installer | grep log "  ;-)
[12:03] <soundray> thoreauputic, that's very useful.
[12:03] <irvin> i didn't know irssi was installed by default
[12:04] <Deedubb> thoreauputic: you're a genius
[12:04] <thoreauputic> Deedubb: hardly ;-)
[12:05] <Deedubb> thoreauputic: the fact that you said that as reply proves it; you're self aware ;)
[12:05] <ndlovu> I'm trying to submit a bug report in bugzilla, with an example file, but it keeps telling me "You did not specify a file to attach". Am I missing something?
[12:05] <thoreauputic> Deedubb: well, I just thought the method might prove useful to someone
[12:06] <Deedubb> thoreauputic: I'm just playing - next time just take the compliment - they don't come around often
[12:07] <thoreauputic> Deedubb: OK I accept gracefully ;-)
[12:07] <blackhat> Hey, when I put the Ubuntu disc in and I try to install it I don't get any options to resize my partitions, only erase the whole drive =/, I have a dell inspiron 6000
[12:07] <argos> hi, i have a problem, could anybody please advice? I bought new soundcard (emu 4040 for making music) i know there are no linux drivers, but now my old soundcard stopped working aswell . How could i make ubuntu ignore the new card and still use the old card?
[12:07] <corresponder> http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/844
[12:09] <soundray> corresponder, does 'sudo apt-get -f install' work?
[12:09] <interoz> hello
[12:09] <skar> hi, how do i upgrade to firefox 1.5 on breezy?
[12:09] <corresponder> no
[12:09] <corresponder> same
[12:09] <corresponder> tells me do do the dpkg --configure -a
[12:09] <skar> also how to install flash and java plugins on plain vanilla breezy just installed?
[12:09] <freelove> how do i set up my adsl internet in ubuntu? any gui app?
[12:10] <corresponder> flash and java will work allways if you install them from the hand
[12:10] <soundray> corresponder, this is unusual. Have you googled for this error message?
[12:10] <corresponder> no
[12:10] <thoreauputic> skar: this is one way - http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/45917/index.html
[12:10] <argos> any ideas on the soundcard issue?
[12:10] <corresponder> i will look
[12:10] <thoreauputic> skar: for ff 1.5 I mean
[12:10] <freelove> how do i set up my adsl internet in ubuntu? any gui app?
[12:11] <irvin> hello
[12:11] <blackhat> i want to install ubuntu but i cant resize partitions during setup like i can on my other computer
[12:11] <blackhat> anyone know why
[12:11] <irvin> is there a console app for instant messengers?
[12:11] <freelove> doing sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list does not open up the text editor.what to do?
[12:11] <thoreauputic> !tell skar about restricted
[12:11] <chorse> freelove, invoke pppoeconf from console
[12:11] <soundray> corresponder, what were you installing when it happened?
[12:12] <LoPMX> do i have to compile new xfce to have it on ubuntu?
[12:12] <corresponder> its not important, it is happening always if i use apt-get
[12:12] <oggah> How to check free disk space in terminal.
[12:12] <corresponder> apt-get check won?t help
[12:12] <corresponder> apt-get -f install too
[12:12] <thoreauputic> oggah: df -h
[12:12] <corresponder> so...
[12:12] <oggah> thanks. how do view all partitions in terminal?
[12:12] <soundray> corresponder, what were you installing when it *first* happened?
[12:13] <thoreauputic> oggah: sudo fdisk -l
[12:13] <skar> thoreauputic: ok will try this link, thanks for the info
[12:13] <bedee> just want to say that i love ubuntu - thanks and good bye
[12:13] <corresponder> fluxbox
[12:13] <thoreauputic> skar: no problem :)
[12:13] <irvin> is there a console-based gaim?
[12:13] <corresponder> with the fluxbox install startet the problem
[12:13] <corresponder> *g* - history will not forget it
[12:14] <soundray> corresponder, try dpkg --purge fluxbox , then dpkg --configure -a
[12:14] <corresponder> k
[12:14] <corresponder> thanks
[12:14] <interoz> i am a debian user and don't know much of ubuntu. i installed ubuntu at a friend of mine, who's a linux newbie. the problem is that after a plain install gnome didn't start (could not understand why). so i installed xfce, and it went fine. on the other side now he can't play any mp3 or video file. any clue?
[12:15] <oggah> ok, when doing a standard isntall. ubuntu will create one partition for the system, and one, for swap? right?
[12:15] <oggah> what is tmpfs
[12:15] <soundray> !tell interoz about restricted formats
[12:15] <thoreauputic> oggah: by default, yes
[12:15] <soundray> interoz, pls read ubotu's message.
[12:15] <tazzz> Hi all, my computer is almost frozen. I can see from "top" that there is 90% "wa" in CPU.  What does that mean, waste ? and how can I know which program is causing it ?
[12:15] <thoreauputic> oggah: those other entries like tmpfs are kind of virtual entries
[12:16] <interoz> soundray: thanks! reading, bbl
[12:16] <corresponder> soundray: same error
[12:16] <ndlovu> okay, figured it out (attach file in bugzilla) - I changed my password, but the login cookie was not updated. Had to delete the cookie before attach file worked.
[12:16] <oggah> thoreauputic: okay. hrm. I cant list the swap-partition in terminal..
[12:16] <oggah> how do I?
[12:16] <corresponder> df -h
[12:17] <irvin> oggah: df -h
[12:17] <corresponder> or better
[12:17] <corresponder> free
[12:17] <oggah> ah thanks!
[12:17] <tazzz> I had this happen several times...and then It was frozen so much I couldnt even log in another consol cze between the username/passwd it would give a timeout ...
[12:17] <thoreauputic> oggah: it shows up on  sudo fdisk -l ( or it should)
[12:17] <corresponder> or cat /etc/fstab |grep swap
[12:17] <hlen> oggah, swapon -s
[12:17] <tazzz> Hi all, my computer is almost frozen. I can see from "top" that there is 90% "wa" in CPU.  What does that mean, waste ? and how can I know which program is causing it ?
[12:17] <soundray> corresponder, do a 'dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii', this should show you which packages are broken.
[12:18] <corresponder> k
[12:18] <oggah> the tmpfs listed when doing 'df -h' is something else than the Swap listed in "free".
[12:18] <oggah> ?
[12:19] <thoreauputic> oggah: yes, don't worry about it :)
[12:19] <skar> thoreauputic: what is the universe/multiverse repo containing flash/java/real etc?
[12:19] <oggah> seems like I got two tmpfs.. both a size of 253Mbyte.
[12:19] <oggah> No =) Just want to learn.
[12:19] <irvin> skar: i think its on restricted
[12:19] <thoreauputic> skar: java isn't in the repos unless you want blackdown java
[12:20] <thoreauputic> real also is proprietary
[12:20] <blackhat> anyone here have a laptop
[12:20] <thoreauputic> there's a flash non-free in multiverse I think
[12:20] <Deedubb> tazzz:I think thats IO wait
[12:20] <vladuz976> anybody know a nice monospace font?
[12:20] <gnomefreak> blackdown is out of date tho its 1.4 you can get java 1.5 from java debs and all you do is dpkg  -i it and your good to go
[12:20] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: correct
[12:21] <thoreauputic> !javadebs
[12:21] <ubotu> I guess javadebs is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[12:21] <thoreauputic> !realplay
[12:21] <ubotu> thoreauputic: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[12:21] <thoreauputic> bah
[12:21] <corresponder> soundray: http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/845
[12:21] <thoreauputic> !realplayer
[12:21] <ubotu> methinks realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:21] <interoz> having installed a i386 ubuntu on amd64 hardware, is it possible to use an amd64 kernel instead of a 386 one? i am asking because apt-cache don't seem to find it
[12:22] <Glossary> my ubuntu cds just arrived :D
[12:23] <thoreauputic> Glossary: nice :)
[12:23] <soundray> corresponder, I'm afraid your system is fubar. I don't know what to do. thoreauputic?
[12:23] <Badm4n> any1 here understand about ipmassq rulez ? msg me please or type my name @ channel so i recognize who can help me
[12:24] <corresponder> hmmm
[12:24] <corresponder> thank you
[12:24] <thoreauputic> soundray: oh, sorry I haven't followed the problem...
[12:24] <soundray> thoreauputic, the two most recent posts on http://paste.ubuntuusers.de sum up the problem.
[12:25] <skar> thoreauputic: which deb should i install to have gcc working with stdio.h?
[12:25] <irvin> interoz: sudo apt-cache search linux-image
[12:25] <freelove_> how to change my sudo password?
[12:25] <thoreauputic> skar: have you installed build-essential ?
[12:25] <gnomefreak> passwd
[12:26] <interoz> irvin: yes, it has only x86 and k7 kernels there. maybe i have to enable some extra repository though
[12:27] <freelove_> thx
[12:27] <skar> thoreauputic: yup, and i get "error: stdio.h: No such file or directory"
[12:27] <gnomefreak> skar,  build-essencial
[12:27] <freelove_> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list is throwing errors.its not opening.how do i edit my sources.list???
[12:28] <ubuntu_> @caribbean
[12:28] <thoreauputic> corresponder: if dpkg --configure -a errored out, I don't know what you can do - that reconfigures *everything* so if it's broken you may be out of luck
[12:28] <corresponder> k
[12:28] <corresponder> thanks
[12:28] <parker> g'day
[12:29] <freelove_> installed leafpad......sudo leafpad /ect/apt/sources.list works.........wonders whats wrong with this f*** gedit!! although it does open as normal user...
[12:29] <dooglus> skar: #include <stdio.h> not "stdio.h"
[12:29] <gnomefreak> your getting that error cause the stdio.h is a header file for C programming and the editoer you are using maynot have it in there but should anjuta does but either way i would sudo apt-get install build-essencial
[12:29] <ubuntu_> .
[12:29] <xiaogil> hi
[12:30] <gnomefreak> dooglus,  good catch i didnt see the "\
[12:30] <gnomefreak> -/
[12:30] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: build-essential ( no c )
[12:30] <skar> dooglus: ok got it now, programming error :))
[12:30] <gnomefreak> yeah yeah yeah its early :(
[12:30] <dooglus> gnomefreak: he didn't tell use he used a ", but I guess he did
[12:30] <xiaogil> what are te wget argument (or even another command if exists) to get recursively the .tif image of an htt address ?
[12:30] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: heh - late here ;)
[12:30] <zool2005> good morning
[12:30] <freelove_> i wanna move certain files as root.....how to do it in nautilus???
[12:30] <gnomefreak> lol
[12:31] <gnomefreak> its 6:30 here am
[12:31] <dooglus> freelove_: at a guess, "sudo nautilus"
[12:31] <thoreauputic> Fri Dec  9 22:31:21 EST 2005
[12:31] <frogzoo> freelove you don't - bad plan
[12:31] <thoreauputic> ;)
[12:31] <skar> thoreauputic: nope, now it works for both <stdio.h> and "stdio.h", just installing build-essential does it :)
[12:31] <thoreauputic> skar: ah there you go then :)
[12:31] <dj_smilee|work> guys, how would i copy my entire root file system from a hard disk to an NFS export
[12:31] <Ng> dj_smilee|work: rsync :)
[12:32] <thoreauputic> dj_smilee|work: with much patience :)
[12:32] <gnomefreak> i never tried " for calling a header file and prolly wont either
[12:32] <zool2005> can anyone help me with apt-get question please?
[12:32] <Ng> something like rsync -avPx --stats / /path/to/nfs/mount
[12:32] <dooglus> dj_smilee|work: I'd suggest copying it over as a tarfile, and untarring on the remote machine.  that limits any trouble caused by NFS flakiness
[12:32] <freelove_> dooglus, ive given the command.but it hasn't opened yet.how i miss kdesu konqueror!
[12:32] <dj_smilee|work> rsync and patientce :S
[12:32] <gnomefreak> zool2005,  ask it and they shall help ;)
[12:32] <dj_smilee|work> i need the ENTIRE filesystem
[12:33] <dj_smilee|work> exactly as it is
[12:33] <frogzoo> dj_smilee|work: tar -cpf / | (cd NFS ; tar xf) - something like this should work
[12:33] <dj_smilee|work> because im trying to run an NFS root
[12:33] <Ng> the rsync command I just gave will preserve all ownership and permissions and so on
[12:33] <Glossary> thoreauputic, i received 5 today and i ordered 30 more would you think they will arrive too? for my friends and stuff
[12:33] <dj_smilee|work> like cpio?
[12:33] <zool2005> I have been looking thought the starter guide and following it to the letter but apt-get cannot find packages such as java, flashplayer etc even though I've edited the server list
[12:33] <jakob> how do I batch convert OoO 1.1.x files til the new OoO .odt format?
[12:33] <dooglus> frogzoo: that would create a whole bunch of files over NFS.  have you ever had that work properly?
[12:34] <dj_smilee|work> i'll have a look Ng
[12:34] <dj_smilee|work> will it copy they proc stuff?
[12:34] <Ng> o
[12:34] <Ng> no
[12:34] <thoreauputic> Glossary: no idea - I ordered mine in October and got them last week - but I assume first orders get priority
[12:34] <Ng> dj_smilee|work: the -x means it will not copy anything on another mount
[12:34] <Ng> dj_smilee|work: purely what's on the / partition
[12:35] <dj_smilee|work> ok
[12:35] <Ng> so you can have the nfs export mounted in /mnt somewhere and it won't go mad and try to copy itself to itself or anything ;)
[12:35] <dj_smilee|work> lol exactly
[12:35] <freelove_> dooglus, it has opened just now.after such a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time!!!
[12:35] <dj_smilee|work> might as well get to work on my initrd
[12:36] <dooglus> freelove_: do you have a lot of bookmarks in nautilus?
[12:36] <frogzoo> dooglus: your point is that tar needs the -l flag as well, to stay within the / fs ?
[12:36] <oggah> keycommand for screendump in GNOME?
[12:36] <Ng> oggah: poke your PrintScreen keyboard key :)
[12:36] <oggah> oh. lol.
[12:36] <Seveas> oggah, [prt scr] 
[12:36] <oggah> =)
[12:36] <dooglus> frogzoo: no, my point is that I wouldn't trust NFS to create a whole bunch of files at once.  I've had bad experiences with it.
[12:36] <oggah> thx.
[12:36] <diego> uf
[12:36] <diego> nunca me acuerdo
[12:36] <thoreauputic> oggah: PrintScrn ?
[12:36] <diego> como es el canal en espaol
[12:37] <Seveas> !es
[12:37] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:37] <Ng> oggah: or alt-prntscrn if you just want the current window
[12:37] <dooglus> frogzoo: I'd dump the tarfile over NFS and then run tar xf on the remote machine to untar it
[12:37] <thoron> Hi! How long security support Ubuntu has after release?
[12:37] <samu2> are you just supposed to edit your boot menu manually whenever you autoupgrade the kernel?
[12:37] <oggah> err, [print screen]  doesnt seem to work. where is the .png saved?
[12:37] <frogzoo> dooglus: that sounds horrible - I used to do this all the time - NFS should be VERY stable
[12:37] <thoreauputic> thoron: 18 months I think currently
[12:37] <dooglus> frogzoo: but an 'l' flag when creating the tarfile is needed too.  (and the last - must be inside the subshell if you're going to do it like that too by the way)
[12:38] <thoron> thoreauputic: yep, just found it too. thanks. =)
[12:38] <frogzoo> dooglus: yup
[12:38] <zool2005> can anyone help with apt-get sources please?
[12:38] <dooglus> frogzoo: maybe it is now.  i've not used it for 10 years or so.  Sun's implementation used to be horrible.
[12:38] <thoron> Is Ubuntu as easy as Debian to upgrade to next release?
[12:38] <thoreauputic> !sources
[12:38] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:38] <dooglus> zool2005: drop the last s
[12:38] <corresponder> thoreauputic: my problem is solved: therewas a wrong configured package
[12:38] <corresponder> thanks a lot
[12:38] <dooglus> zool2005: it's "apt-get source"
[12:39] <oggah> err, [print screen]  doesnt seem to work. where is the .png saved?
[12:39] <samu2> because now i have the same "problem" i had when i ran redhat a long time ago, where my boot menu is filling up with old kernels
[12:39] <dooglus> oggah: in Documents
[12:39] <corresponder> with dpkg --purge "packagename"
[12:39] <thoreauputic> zool2005: for stuff like java and multimedia read wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:39] <zool2005> thank you
[12:40] <frogzoo> dooglus: NFS these days is really nice - on Sun's cluster - you take down an NFS server, failover, and all your exports keep working - even with open files - it's pretty awesome
[12:40] <thoreauputic> corresponder: glad to hear you sorted it out
[12:40] <corresponder> ;-)
[12:40] <oggah> dooglus: in documents. where is it located?
[12:40] <oggah> sbin? dev?
[12:41] <dooglus> oggah: for me it's /home/chris/Documents
[12:41] <dooglus> oggah: but you can tell it to save wherever you like
[12:41] <Ng> frogzoo: you can hack up nfs failover with linux nfs, just bring up an identical export on the same IP and if it's hard mounted the clients just remount and continue ;)
[12:41] <thoreauputic> oggah: prntscrn should pop up a dialogue
[12:42] <dooglus> oggah: when you hit [prtscn]  don't you see "filename" and "save to folder" or some such?
[12:42] <frogzoo> Ng: just my point really - that's because of the NFS protocol itself - not the specific implementation
[12:42] <Ng> yeah
[12:42] <Ng> although if you don't have a spare identical server, hard mounts are a serious pita ;)
[12:42] <BooZee> hello
[12:43] <oggah> dooglus: yep. now I do. the strange thing is, try it yourself. put the pointer at the menu, and click Applications for example. then try [prnt scrn] .
[12:43] <tristan> Hello, I have just a small question : I don't have the adress bar when browsing through my folder. How can I enable it?
[12:43] <Nikusan> tristan, ctrl+l
[12:43] <thoreauputic> tristan: hit ctrl-L
[12:43] <BooZee> I've got problems with seeing text in flash movies. e.g.: when right clicking a movie and clicking on settings - I only see the little pics and no text at all!
[12:43] <oggah> doesnt pop up any save screendump dialouge?
[12:43] <tristan> thanks
[12:44] <oggah> doesnt for me.
[12:44] <dooglus> oggah: prnt scrn doesn't work while the gnome menus are showing!  I never noticed that before
[12:44] <thoreauputic> tristan: or check edit preferences and change it there
[12:44] <Nikusan> BooZee, maybe you need msttcorefonts
[12:44] <samu2> so are you supposed to manually edit your boot menu for kernel upgrades?
[12:44] <BooZee> Nikusan: already installed
[12:44] <oggah> kinda strange, have I found a bug? :)
[12:45] <thoreauputic> samu2: if they are installed with the package manager, no need
[12:45] <Ng> oggah: not necessarily, open menus make for strange input modifications
[12:45] <samu2> thoreauputic, but the boot menu is filling up with old kernels that i never load
[12:45] <Ng> oggah: you could use gimp though, it will grab a screenshot and you can specify a delay, so you have time to minimise it and open whatever menus you want
[12:45] <tristan> thoreauputic : cannot find it in edit preferences. And, when I open a new folder I have to hit ctrl+L gain....
[12:45] <thoreauputic> samu2: you can uninstall the old kernels
[12:45] <oggah> Ng: Okay, great!
[12:46] <BooZee> anybody? help on flash ?
[12:46] <thoreauputic> tristan: hang on I'll have a look here
[12:46] <samu2> thoreauputic, what are the package names of the old kernels then?
[12:46] <tristan> thoreauputic : thanks
[12:46] <thoreauputic> samu2: linux-image  something - look in synaptic
[12:46] <joshi> hello. what is command for deleting directory?
[12:47] <thoron> Is good idea to use Ubuntu as OS for Bugzilla and version control server?
[12:47] <dragoon> rm -r
[12:47] <frogzoo> joshi: rm DIRNAME
[12:47] <tristan> joshi : rm -r DIRNAME
[12:47] <frogzoo> joshi: rm -r if the directory's not empty
[12:47] <samu2> thoreauputic, ok ill have a look. thanks
[12:47] <rag> joshi: rm -rf <dirname> # f for force if the directory is not empty
[12:48] <samu2> arent there different flags for different rm commands?
[12:48] <frogzoo> samu2: man rm
[12:49] <xiaogil> Is there a command that takes an image A and a group of images, and tells which image of the group is the closest to image A ?
[12:49] <|Gmp|> hey
[12:49] <[Jonne] > is anyone running xfce here?
[12:49] <thoreauputic> tristan: apps -system tools -config editor - apps -nautilus - preferences - always use location entry
[12:49] <[Jonne] > I accidentally hid my panel, and i can't get it back
[12:49] <frogzoo> xiaogil: not in stock breezy - but there's AI tools probably - suggest google
[12:49] <dooglus> oggah: a nice simple solution is to use "import" from the imagemagick package, like this:    sleep 4; import -window root foo.png
[12:50] <thoreauputic> tristan: sorry I thought it was an option in nautilus itself
[12:50] <thoreauputic> tristan: found it ?
[12:51] <oggah> dooglus: okay!
[12:51] <skar> thoreauputic: any repo containing downloader prozilla?
[12:51] <oggah> used gimp's screendumpfunction. works fine.
[12:51] <frogzoo> xiaogil: really, probably just something that will calculate the spacial correlation would suite most situations - & there's libraries that do spacial correlations
[12:51] <dooglus> oggah: you know how to make an alias in bash?  I've aliased that to "snap"
[12:51] <oggah> nopes?
[12:51] <dj_smilee|work> Ng: what is rsync's main purpose. backup?
[12:51] <thoreauputic> skar: not that I know of - but try  apt-cache search downloader
[12:52] <dooglus> gedit ~/.bashrc and add a line at the end that says:    alias snap='sleep 4; import -window root'
[12:52] <frogzoo> dj_smilee|work: main purpose is syncing directories ;)
[12:52] <dooglus> then you can type "snap foo.png" to dump the screen into foo.png
[12:52] <dj_smilee|work> over a network?
[12:52] <Ng> dj_smilee|work: syncing files from one place to another, often for backup, but equally for mirroring, or if you want to complete a partial transfer or something - it's quite good at handling large files that have only changed a bit
[12:52] <Ng> dj_smilee|work: yeah, locally or over a network, or over ssh
[12:52] <frogzoo> dj_smilee|work: think mirror sites
[12:52] <thoreauputic> skar: you might like d4x (downloader for X)
[12:52] <Ng> dj_smilee|work: it's a sweet tool :)
[12:53] <dj_smilee|work> sounds like the tool i need, gonna need a lot of flags to preserve the system though
[12:53] <dominic> hi all
[12:53] <dj_smilee|work> time, ownership, symlinks, dir structure
[12:53] <Ng> dj_smilee|work: -a preserves pretty much everything
[12:53] <dj_smilee|work> archive mode?
[12:53] <skar> thoreauputic: i need a console program, no X, like a replacement for wget
[12:53] <Ng> look it up in the man page, it implies a bunch of other preservation options
[12:53] <Ng> yeah
[12:53] <samu2> thoreauputic, so if i have "linux-image-2.6.12-10-386" and "linux-image-2.6.12-9-386" installed, i should be able to remove the latter?
[12:53] <thoreauputic> skar: well there's curl...
[12:54] <dj_smilee|work> what is a hardlink?
[12:54] <thoreauputic> skar: what's wrong with wget ?
[12:54] <frogzoo> thoreauputic: snap
[12:54] <thoreauputic> samu2: I don't see why not, yes
[12:54] <soundray> dj_smilee|work, two filenames pointing to the same data on the disk.
[12:54] <Ng> dj_smilee|work: where you have two "files" that point at the same inode (the fs structure that contains a file)
[12:54] <dooglus> dj_smilee|work: it's a link that isn't soft...  (ie. not "ln -s" but just "ln"
[12:54] <skar> thoreauputic: wget uses single http connection, proz uses 4 by default and can be increased or decreased by config
[12:54] <dj_smilee|work> ah ok
[12:54] <samu2> thoreauputic, ok here goes, thanks again
[12:54] <dj_smilee|work> dont think i've got any of those :S
[12:54] <dooglus> dj_smilee|work: every regular file is a hard-link
[12:54] <Ng> dj_smilee|work: they're very useful, but can be quite confusing and dangerous if you don't know they're there
[12:55] <skar> thoreauputic: so proz proves faster than wget in most conditions
[12:55] <Ng> dj_smilee|work: you almost certainly won't have any
[12:55] <thoreauputic> skar: I frown on leeching servers with multiple connections
[12:55] <dj_smilee|work> good'o
[12:55] <Mozo> Hi, I'm trying to install Kguitar, but I get this error:  checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[12:55] <dooglus> dj_smilee|work: type "ls -l" in a directory.  see the column of '1's just after the "-rw-r--r--" column?  that's the number of links to each file
[12:55] <thoreauputic> skar: besides which I don't believe those things help much anyway
[12:55] <Mozo> ok ok, I have libx11-dev installed :P
[12:56] <dj_smilee|work> ah right, so the file system knows if there are multiple hardlinks
[12:56] <dooglus> Ng: every file on his disk is a hard link.
[12:56] <frogzoo> skar: is that proz http 1.1 ?
[12:56] <zool2005> I've installed the 64 bit edition of Ubuntu but now I'm beginning to think it was a bad idea as many apps are not yet available for 64 bit with apt-get
[12:56] <dj_smilee|work> zool2005, chop your cpu in half
[12:57] <zool2005> do you think it would be better to download the 32 bit ed?
[12:57] <blackhat> anyone here have a laptop
[12:57] <dj_smilee|work> dual 32 bit cpu's :>
[12:57] <blackhat> i want to install ubuntu but i cant resize partitions during setup like i can on my other computer
[12:57] <soundray> zool2005, same problem here. Three solutions: reinstall with -i386, setup a 32bit chroot, or run 32bit in qemu.
[12:57] <frogzoo> zool2005: yup probly
[12:57] <skar> frogzoo:dunno about its http protocol implementation, but i used to use it in gentoo to download the sources and it was blazing fast, with resume feature also
[12:57] <thoreauputic> !anyone
[12:57] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[12:57] <zool2005> nuts!
[12:57] <nabucodor> c' qualcuno che parla italiano?
[12:57] <nabucodor> :(
[12:57] <Myrtti> !it
[12:57] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:57] <thoreauputic> !it
[12:58] <thoreauputic> heh
[12:58] <blackhat> anyone here have a laptop
[12:58] <frogzoo> skar: a better wget sounds just the ticket
[12:58] <dragoon> blackhat: yea
[12:58] <blackhat> which
[12:58] <frogzoo> blackhat: lappie here
[12:58] <[Jonne] > anyone here running Ubuntu ? <grin>
[12:58] <ph33r> blackhat, jepp
[12:58] <nabucodor> ma non mi risponde nessuno
[12:58] <blackhat> i want to install ubuntu but i cant resize partitions during setup like i can on my other computer
[12:58] <dragoon> atm a Clevo D900
[12:58] <ph33r> blackhat, Toshiba Sattelite
[12:58] <blackhat> i have a dell inspiron 6000
[12:58] <Seveas> nabucodor, please stick to english in here - #ubuntu-it is for italian
[12:58] <soundray> blackhat, is your windows partition nearly full?
[12:58] <zool2005> off to reinstall 32bit - bye
[12:58] <blackhat> No
[12:58] <blackhat> its not even half full
[12:58] <frogzoo> lappie question - how can I disable power to 1 - PCMCIA slot  - 2 CD drive ?
[12:58] <blackhat> when i boot up i get a few options
[12:58] <Ng> dooglus: I know that, but when things like rsync talk about preserving hardlinks, they mean second hardlinks
[12:59] <blackhat> erase all and make linux or w/e
[12:59] <blackhat> or edit the partition table manually
[12:59] <blackhat> and there is no resize options
[12:59] <skar> frogzoo:http://prozilla.genesys.ro/ has some info right at the top, seems proz is top notch
[12:59] <Ng> or rather, multiple hardlinks
[12:59] <soundray> blackhat, do you have the live CD?
[12:59] <blackhat> no
[12:59] <blackhat> regular cd.
[12:59] <KiLRoY> G'day - gdm wont start - desktop stuck at 640 x480 - help
[12:59] <frogzoo> skar: thx! :)
[12:59] <soundray> blackhat, and no Knoppix or Kanotix lying around?
[01:00] <blackhat> Nope.
[01:00] <blackhat> Why?
[01:00] <dooglus> Ng: it means it preserves the structure of the links.  so if two links are pointing to the same inode before, they will be after, too.
[01:00] <Ng> dooglus: again, I know that
[01:00] <frogzoo> skar: supports resume ie http 1.1 - sweet
[01:00] <Ng> I use rsync all the time and hardlinks :)
[01:00] <Ng> dooglus: I'm just keeping my language consistent with the rsync man page
[01:00] <soundray> blackhat, if you were to try qtparted for resizing, you would get an explanation for why it doesn't work, if it doesn't work.
[01:00] <dj_smilee|work> ;)
[01:00] <dooglus> Ng: ok.  it was when I saw you saying that he wouldn't have any hardlinks that I got the impression you didn't know what they were
[01:00] <blackhat> >_>
[01:01] <soundray> blackhat, qtparted is on K*ix
[01:01] <blackhat> It's NTFS partition.
[01:01] <blackhat> on dell inspiron 6000
[01:01] <blackhat> I could resize in windows using partition magic, but wouldnt i have to defrag first so my files dont get messed up
[01:01] <YukiIkyuta> blackhat, typically, PartitionMagic is careful of that for you.
[01:01] <docta_v> yea partition magic will take care of that
[01:01] <thoreauputic> KiLRoY: we might need a bit more info than that...
[01:02] <blackhat> ok
[01:02] <blackhat> so I can resize my partition using partition magic then enter the linux installation and install
[01:02] <Ng> dooglus: I try not to conceal things from people, but I reckon that is genuinely confusing if you don't know about inodes and so on (and there's no reason why most people should), but no problem :)
[01:02] <docta_v> yep
[01:02] <soundray> blackhat, if you haven't defragged, this may be the reason why Ubuntu installer won't do the resizing.
[01:02] <blackhat> how much gb's does ubuntu require because i plan on giving it only about 8gb
[01:02] <jaaaro> Hi everyone.
[01:02] <Seveas> blackhat, that's enough
[01:02] <docta_v> it might be a decent idea to defrag anyway though
[01:02] <corresponder> hi
[01:02] <blackhat> k
[01:02] <docta_v> even though it's not required
[01:02] <blackhat> thanks for the help.
[01:02] <soundray> corresponder, back so soon?
[01:03] <jaaaro> My disk went to silicon heaven so I finally decided to switch from debian to ubuntu, but I have small problem.
[01:03] <corresponder> *g*
[01:03] <soundray> :)
[01:03] <jaaaro> I'd like to get actual kernel without need of compilation. Is that possilbe?
[01:03] <corresponder> jap
[01:03] <corresponder> what did you call actual?
[01:03] <jaaaro> I haven't found packages in repositories.
[01:03] <soundray> jaaaro, with actual, do you mean current?
[01:03] <jaaaro> corresponder: e.g. 2.6.13
[01:03] <Ng> no
[01:04] <dooglus> Ng: I'd suggest that the problem lies with the rsync man page.  It's quite misleading, talking about "detecting hard links" in the description of the -H flag.  It means "detecting multiple hard links to the same i-node" I think.
[01:04] <thoreauputic> jaaaro: if by actual you mean "latest", no - but apt-cache search linux-image is a good start
[01:04] <jaaaro> that word doesn't matter that much - I've found none precompiled kernels.
[01:04] <frogzoo> blackhat: here's my lappie fs layout - http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/455296
[01:04] <thoreauputic> jaaaro: see above
[01:04] <Ng> dooglus: that's probably true
[01:04] <paines> hi
[01:04] <sayan> hi
[01:04] <ndlovu> when I look in Synaptic, sun-j2re1.5 is installed, but java --version says it's 1.4.2 - is this correct?
[01:04] <ph33r> soundray, I found drivers for the USB Wireless Card on Avaya.com Im burning them on a cd now :D
[01:04] <skar> thoreauputic: how to see installed vesion of a package?
[01:04] <jaaaro> thoreauputic: wow. In fact. It's resolved now.
[01:05] <Ng> dooglus: I'm trying to weigh up how much an average rsync user needs to know that, vs if anyone who actually needs -H will already know that ;)
[01:05] <thoreauputic> ndlovu:  update-alternatives --config java
[01:05] <paines> i have a problem with licq. I can only connect ones, the first time. when I shut down licq, and try to login again, it doesn't work anymore
[01:05] <jaaaro> I've installed warty from cd's and made upgrade to breezy via apt-get :)
[01:05] <corresponder> jaaaro: ubuntu comes with 2.6.12
[01:05] <sayan> how could i backup using rsync
[01:05] <soundray> ph33r, can you point me to the download page pls?
[01:05] <thoreauputic> skar: apt-cache policy <package>
[01:05] <jaaaro> and somehow linux-images weren't visible until now.
[01:05] <KiLRoY> thoreauputic:gnome desktop manager hasn't started - i'm not sure how to start it, or why it didn't start
[01:05] <sayan> I am new in ubuntu
[01:05] <jaaaro> but they are so I'm happy.
[01:06] <thoreauputic> KiLRoY: try (from a tty )  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start (or restart if that fails)
[01:07] <frogzoo> sayan: congrats
[01:07] <thoreauputic> KiLRoY: I assume you mean gdm and not gnome-session
[01:07] <ndlovu> thoreauputic: thanks, thats exactly what I needed. Except now java --version says "Could not create the Java virtual machine" :(
[01:07] <jaaaro> I also had mysterious problems with keyboard but I suppose they were as well caused by "system in upgrade
[01:07] <jaaaro> ... system in upgrade" state.
[01:08] <jaaaro> I'l check that now.
[01:08] <frogzoo> KiLRoY: do you mean the gui didn't start? ie it's an X configuration/vid driver problem
[01:08] <thoreauputic> ndlovu: did you use a java deb or install from the sun installer?
[01:08] <aeon17x> A standard Ubuntu install can run just fine with 96 MB of RAM, right?
[01:08] <soundray> aeon17x, that's very tight.
[01:08] <janopotter> hih
[01:08] <janopotter> hi
[01:08] <thoreauputic> aeon17x: rather slowly I would say
[01:08] <SirKillalot> do you know a way to download a full (existing and running) phpbb forum?
[01:08] <soundray> aeon17x, but it will run if you have swap space.
[01:08] <SirKillalot> and save it on the hdd
[01:09] <thoreauputic> aeon17x: 128MB is probably minimum for gnome, really
[01:09] <ph33r> soundray, just go to avaya.com and find "downloads" then you find software
[01:09] <ph33r> soundray, and then you find your product :P
[01:09] <samu2> aeon17x, i ran gnome with 128MB earlier, it worked but it was a bit sluggish.
[01:09] <sayan> hi people !! I am new in this window
[01:09] <soundray> ph33r, I don't have one yet, just considering switching from Belkin.
[01:10] <corresponder> 192mb is not much, too
[01:10] <corresponder> 128mb is better for using blackbox or fluxbox
[01:10] <corresponder> ;-)
[01:10] <aeon17x> Will it run slower or just the same as if I have, let's say, Windows XP on it?
[01:10] <Nikusan> thoreauputic, I've got the same problem as ndlovu. And I installed java 1.5 update 6 using a deb made by java-package
[01:10] <Necrocide> hile, I have a windows partition and a linux partition (ubuntu) I want to transfer some of the space from the windows partition, to my swap partition, and my ubuntu partition. Can I just boot my windows and then deincrease the size of the partition, and then increase the swap and ubuntu partition?
[01:11] <corresponder> hmmm
[01:11] <ndlovu> thoreauputic: was a while back, before I upgraded, but I see jre-1_5_0_01-linux-i586.bin in my downloads
[01:11] <thoreauputic> Nikusan: hmm - I don't know then - it worked fine here
[01:11] <corresponder> backup before
[01:11] <Necrocide> :/
[01:11] <thoreauputic> !tell ndlovu about javadeb
[01:11] <terekker> hi got my free ubuntu cd in the mail today
[01:11] <corresponder> cool
[01:11] <sayan> hi how rsync help me to backup
[01:11] <terekker> live disk fails to boot
[01:11] <KiLRoY> thoreauputic: tried the  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start -  * Starting GNOME Display Manager...              [fail] 
[01:11] <KiLRoY> and yes the gdm
[01:12] <Ng> sayan: there are many ways to do it - if you google for rsync backup you will probably find many tutorials :)
[01:12] <terekker> stops at hot plug subsystem - any ideas?
[01:12] <frogzoo> terekker: check /var/log/messages
[01:12] <thoreauputic> KiLRoY: do you have X running or just a tty ?
[01:12] <sayan> any link could you suggest
[01:12] <dj_smilee|work> rsync is popular today D:
[01:12] <billy_boy_mccoy_> hello
[01:12] <corresponder> hi
[01:12] <terekker> how can I check the messages file if the os didnt start up?
[01:12] <soundray> aeon17x, WinXP and Gnome will have similar difficulties. There's no exact comparison though.
[01:12] <corresponder> terekker: knoppix
[01:12] <thoreauputic> KiLRoY: if X won't start at all, do   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:13] <ndlovu> horeauputic: how would I get rid of old java packages? 1.5 I can get remove with synaptic. 1.4.2. I'm not so sure about?
[01:13] <billy_boy_mccoy_> i got a problem
[01:13] <soundray> Necrocide, Windows cannot resize it's own partition.
[01:13] <corresponder> or tomsrtbt
[01:13] <ndlovu> erm, thoreauputic that es
[01:13] <KiLRoY> thoreauputic: have tried a restart - no luck there either
[01:13] <Necrocide> soundray, im using Partition Magic, then I can
[01:13] <corresponder> pre beta
[01:13] <corresponder> ;-)
[01:13] <sayan> thanks bye
[01:13] <aeon17x> I see. Thanks.
[01:13] <thoreauputic> KiLRoY: have you tried the command I just gave you ?
[01:13] <soundray> Necrocide, okay, so what do you want to know?
[01:13] <terekker> i can download knoppix but I'd much rather get this working since I've got it already
[01:13] <Necrocide> If it's possible
[01:13] <joda_> quick question: in which file is routing tables saved? the guide I've found talks about /etc/sysconfig/network...
[01:13] <KiLRoY> about to
[01:13] <frogzoo> terekker: boot a recovery disk will do it, ubuntu live, RIP, or try the recovery option in grub
[01:13] <Necrocide> To not screw up ubuntu
[01:13] <billy_boy_mccoy_> i installed unbuntu on partion, installed windows xp on other however windows xp wnet kapt
[01:13] <billy_boy_mccoy_> how do i get on to unbuntu?
[01:14] <thoreauputic> ndlovu: if you installed with synaptic, remove with synaptic or apt
[01:14] <aeon17x> !pastebin
[01:14] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[01:14] <oggah> How switch to small icons in Gaim?
[01:14] <oggah> think the default listing of buddies in gaim is to big.
[01:14] <oggah> clumsy.
[01:14] <Dr_Acemaster> oggah it's in the preferences
[01:14] <corresponder> billy_boy_mccoy_: better install first win the ubuntu
[01:15] <terekker> so you can't provide a kernel parameter for grub that will skip the hot plug subsystem?
[01:15] <soundray> Necrocide, if you create a partition in space you gain from resizing Win, you may have to change /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/menu.lst.
[01:15] <aeon17x> One more thing, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/455307
[01:15] <soundray> Necrocide, other than that, I wouldn't expect any trouble.
[01:15] <Necrocide> I willl try, if I fuck up, I fuck up :P
[01:15] <corresponder> the=then
[01:16] <frogzoo> Necrocide: that's the spirit!
[01:16] <aeon17x> How do I do the "Work Console" install?
[01:16] <soundray> Necrocide, good luck.
[01:16] <ndlovu> how can I remove a package without removing packages that depend on it? (eg. freemind depends java - remove java and it wants to remove freemind also)
[01:16] <Necrocide> :)
[01:16] <|Gmp|> how do i mae the time in 12hour and not 24hour?
[01:16] <Chousuke> ndlovu: --ignore-depends or something?
[01:16] <soundray> Necrocide, you could just use the entire Win partition for Ubuntu. That would be easiest :)
[01:16] <Ng> |Gmp|: at the top right of the screen? right click on it and choose preferences
[01:16] <frogzoo> soundray has a point
[01:17] <|Gmp|> the clocks at the top right
[01:17] <Necrocide> i swtiched to linux the other day, so I need to evaluate it before i wipe my windows :D
[01:17] <corresponder> *g*
[01:17] <frogzoo> |Gmp|: right click clock -> prefs
[01:17] <|Gmp|> its 2 hours short
[01:17] <Dr_Acemaster> Necrocide just have it dual boot, you prob don't ever want to remove windows completely
[01:17] <aeon17x> Necrocide: don't wipe your windows, especially if you paid for it.
[01:17] <|Gmp|> thats weird
[01:17] <joda_> can anyone tell me, when I make changes with the ip command, like "ip add default 192.168.1.1", where does that info get saved?
[01:17] <Necrocide> I got dual boot
[01:17] <|Gmp|> Necrocide, duel boot
[01:18] <czr> joda_, kernel memory
[01:18] <docta_v> aeon17x, hehe
[01:18] <corresponder> joda_: /etc/network
[01:18] <Necrocide> But I need more space on my Linux partition, that I have to take from my windows
[01:18] <czr> ip never touches any files
[01:18] <thoreauputic> ndlovu: the removed package will still be in the cache so you can reinstall it after you get a working java
[01:18] <Ng> joda_: if you want to make permanent changes, edit /etc/network/interfaces
[01:18] <aeon17x> Necrocide: you can shrink it.
[01:18] <Ng> joda_: see "man interfaces" for docs on what you can put in there
[01:18] <Necrocide> ah
[01:18] <corresponder> delete win
[01:18] <Necrocide> with no problem?
[01:18] <corresponder> ;-P
[01:18] <joda_> ok, thanks all
[01:18] <Necrocide> Ubuntu wont fuck up?
[01:18] <Dr_Acemaster> Necrocide yeah good luck w/ that, very high chance of jacking everything up
[01:18] <Necrocide> :/
[01:19] <aeon17x> Necrocide: yeah, it's quite safe from what I hear.
[01:19] <Necrocide> I try and get back to you guys
[01:19] <corresponder> lol
[01:19] <soundray> Necrocide, before you start...
[01:19] <Necrocide> I hope :=
[01:19] <czr> Necrocide, defrag ntfs fully before even attempting that
[01:19] <corresponder> partition magic= problem magic
[01:19] <joda_> I'm trying to do a loadbalancing between two internet connections - the guides I've found recommend activating this using the ip command
[01:19] <Necrocide> Hmm
[01:19] <joda_> when I try it, it says "file already exists"
[01:19] <KiLRoY> thoreauputic:   Use kernel framebuffer device interface?  (on a nvfx5200) yes or no ??
[01:20] <thoreauputic> Necrocide: you might want to use gparted on the live CD
[01:20] <soundray> Necrocide, do you know how to select and boot a kernel from the grub command line?
[01:20] <czr> joda_, it's a generic error message meaning 'the thing you just tried to do is already present in system'
[01:20] <billy_boy_mccoy_> yeah i have just fromatted hardsik
[01:20] <thoreauputic> KiLRoY: shouldn't matter much - accept the default
[01:20] <joda_> so it just means that it's already got a default gateway
[01:20] <KiLRoY> ok
[01:20] <billy_boy_mccoy_> am gona reinstall windows
[01:20] <Necrocide> Defrag, shrink windows partition with 5gb, increase Linux part. 4,5gb and increase swap with 500mb
[01:20] <czr> joda_, /etc/network doesn't support ip anyway. so you're better off doing a script that will be run on boot that will contain the extra ip-command sequences
[01:20] <billy_boy_mccoy_> see if i can et that working
[01:20] <Necrocide> soundray, no.
[01:20] <czr> joda_, probably in this case. check with ip (it has displaying options)
[01:21] <billy_boy_mccoy_> i thin my experiment with linux has failed on my gammiing pc
[01:21] <frogzoo> czr: see /etc/network/interfaces
[01:21] <joda_> ok, great, thanks :)
[01:21] <thoreauputic> KiLRoY: you might want to use the vesa driver if all else fails - at least that should work OK until you can troubleshoot
[01:21] <czr> frogzoo, a) I'm not the one needing help, b) interfaces does not support multiple default gateways
[01:21] <thoreauputic> KiLRoY: remeber you can re-run this command any time
[01:21] <Necrocide> Time to try. I get back to you guys if I succede :)
[01:22] <czr> joda_, have fun. document your working config when you get it running
[01:22] <czr> joda_, it's not simple, basically it's a simplified instance of policy-based routing
[01:22] <soundray> Necrocide, look at the commands for booting you current kernel in /boot/grub/menu.lst. If Ubuntu doesn't boot, you can enter those commands (root, kernel, initrd) in grub. You need to hit 'c' on the grub start screen.
[01:22] <joda_> Crz - will do - it's for a school project, so documentation is part of the process. I'll put it up on the wiki if I get it working
[01:23] <czr> joda_, try to find proper info on 'ip', it is very powerful
[01:23] <zandaa> dooglus, hiya
[01:24] <joda_> Czr: I've been looking at the documentation for iptables, but maybe I'd better be more specific, and look at the ip command itself
[01:24] <Dr_Acemaster> my wirless was working fine the other day, now it just won't pull an ip from the router, any idea how to fix it?
[01:24] <czr> joda_, iptables != ip
[01:24] <zandaa> Dr_Acemaster, have you tried rebooting the router?
[01:24] <Dr_Acemaster> and it's not hardware, as windows can pull an ip
[01:25] <czr> joda_, iptables is a tool to tell the kernel firewalling logic what to do, ip is a tool for anything else related to routing
[01:25] <Dr_Acemaster> damn wrong button
[01:25] <joda_> right, then it's definitely ip I need - great info, thanks :)
[01:25] <czr> joda_, have fun. there is also arptables and brtables ;-)
[01:26] <Ng> joda_: the iptables manpage is pretty good, otherwise there are some docs on its homepage (netfilter.samba.org afair)
[01:26] <Dr_Acemaster> I can see the connection on wifi radar and even says connected at the bottom, but can't pull an ip
[01:26] <joda_> czr, hehe - I think I'll just stick with ip for now
[01:26] <Ng> joda_: there are also lots of iptables tutorials online
[01:26] <czr> joda_, and vconfig and bridge-related tools, don't remeber their names. in short there are lot of low-level networking tools
[01:26] <joda_> basically I need to give users access to several net connections
[01:27] <czr> joda_, trough your router?
[01:27] <czr> I mean Linux ;-)
[01:27] <dragoon> iptables + webmin
[01:27] <dragoon> :p
[01:27] <czr> somehow iptables + webmin doesn't compute :-)
[01:27] <ndlovu> thoreauputic: I still have a java version located at /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-gcj-4.0-1.4.2.0/ that wasn't installed with apt - how would I get rid of it? rm -rf?
[01:27] <Ng> dragoon: webmin is horrible ;)
[01:28] <thoreauputic> ndlovu: no
[01:28] <czr> joda_, if you want it to work properly, you'll also need to duplicate your linux gateway that does the load balancing
[01:28] <dragoon> i know
[01:28] <czr> joda_, that is much harder to do especially if your box is doing NAT
[01:28] <thoreauputic> ndlovu: run   update-alternatives --config java
[01:28] <kiran_> dsd
[01:28] <joda_> czr: well, 3 routers with an internet connection each, one for gaming (low ping) and two for download - I need loadbalancing between the two for download, and giving the users a chance to switch between the loadbalanced ones, and the gaming line
[01:29] <ndlovu> thoreauputic - so then just leave the old version installed?
[01:29] <thoreauputic> ndlovu: that installation is the "free" java installed by default
[01:29] <joda_> czr: I'm not running nat on the machine - I'm leaving that to the routers
[01:29] <czr> joda_, you need to do it with ip and policy-routing
[01:29] <czr> joda_, and user switching means that policy-routing tables will be changed
[01:29] <thoreauputic> ndlovu: I did - I'm not sure if it would be needed or not
[01:29] <kiran_> hello friends i am new to linux
[01:29] <joda_> crz: yeah, that's how I figured I'd do it
[01:29] <czr> joda_, how will users control which link they will use?
[01:29] <thoreauputic> ndlovu: possibly it isn't, but I play safe ;)
[01:30] <joda_> crz: well, we where thinking of a web interface with mac address filtering, so that each user can change routing for the machine she is on
[01:30] <joda_> crz: but that part will probably just be theoretical
[01:31] <joda_> crz: right now, I just want to prove I can do it manually - after that I can easily argue that a script can be made to handle the change
[01:31] <whiteknight> hey a;;
[01:31] <whiteknight> all*
[01:31] <joda_> crz that's the plan, anyways :)
[01:31] <KiLRoY> thoreauputic:did "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", re-run "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start", result was "* Starting GNOME Display Manager...              [fail] 
[01:31] <KiLRoY> "
[01:31] <czr> joda_, yeah. sounds solid. just remember policy-routing
[01:31] <czr> joda_, the policy routing engine though will use IP addresses of hosts, not MACs
[01:32] <czr> joda_, but I guess that is ok for your needs?
[01:32] <thoreauputic> KiLRoY: do you have X running at all ? have you tried just typing  " startx " ?
[01:32] <joda_> crz: yeah, the idea is that we set up dhcp that links ip to mac, so that would work too
[01:32] <Fujoor> hey people, i have a lil question, today i did a "server" install of ubuntu, when its finished, the first thing i do is i do an apt-get upgrade command
[01:33] <Fujoor> but it says something is missing and that i should do an apt-get update
[01:33] <KiLRoY> thoreauputic: don't know if X is running, will try startx
[01:33] <Fujoor> i meant update in the first one too
[01:33] <thoreauputic> Fujoor: and did you?
[01:33] <Fujoor> yes, it says i should do an update when i do an update
[01:33] <thoreauputic> KiLRoY: do you have a graphical interface, or not?
[01:33] <Ng> Fujoor: does the box have network access setup?
[01:33] <Fujoor> and after that i cant install much else because it says that its missing some stuff and i should do an update
[01:34] <joda_> crz: well, I've got som reading to do. I may be back when it doesn't work at all :)
[01:34] <Fujoor> nq: yes, when i tried a pure debian install it worked
[01:34] <Ng> Fujoor: can you ping something on the net, for example? The exact error message would be useful (use a pastebin if it's long)
[01:34] <thoreauputic> KiLRoY: if X isn't running you just get a black screen with a prompt
[01:34] <Ng> Fujoor: I'm not aksing about a pure debian install, I'm asking about that exact ubuntu install :)
[01:34] <Fujoor> ng: oh, i did it in vmware
[01:34] <czr> joda_, heh, just don't ask me about policy routing ;-)
[01:34] <czr> should do some work meanwhile
[01:34] <thoreauputic> Fujoor: erm, why not mention that first?
[01:35] <joda_> crz: wouldn't want you to do all my homework for me ;)
[01:35] <Fujoor> thore: oh sorry, didnt think it mattered , you mean the vmware?
[01:35] <Fujoor> you think vmware is the bad guy in the drama?
[01:35] <thoreauputic> Fujoor: of course - it could be a vmware issue, right ?
[01:35] <KiLRoY> thoreauputic;deff haven't got that
[01:36] <thoreauputic> KiLRoY: haven't got what? Be precise , please!
[01:36] <Tuntis> *whoops*
[01:36] <Tuntis> I think...
[01:36] <oggah> is there any spyware, trojans n stuff for ubuntu?
[01:36] <Fujoor> thore: perhaps yes, i will try it on my comp when i get home in a couple of months, but im eager to try it out now :)
[01:36] <KiLRoY> a black screen
[01:36] <Tuntis> That I just killed my Ubuntu
[01:36] <KiLRoY> with prompt
[01:36] <Tuntis> How would I fix my MBR to use ntloader again?
[01:36] <thoreauputic> KiLRoY: what *do* you have then?
[01:36] <Fujoor> and when i choose xserver-xfree86 , which is the most usual graphic driver?
[01:37] <Ng> you don't want xfree86, you want xserver-xorg :)
[01:37] <thoreauputic> Fujoor: latest Ubuntu uses xserver-xorg, not xfree86
[01:37] <blackhaT> When installing ubuntu it asks if I want to install grub, well I do want to install it but not on my MBR, I want to install it on the Linux Root partition and make it bootable just incase something goes wrong it doesn't effect my windows partition, is this possible?
[01:37] <Fujoor> ng: oh, but i saw them use xfree in a ubuntu minimal guide, but xserver-xorg is already preinstalled right?
[01:37] <Tuntis> blackhaT, if you select no, it asks where to install (afaik)
[01:37] <Fujoor> or do i have to apt-get that one aswell?
[01:37] <Ng> Fujoor: if you did a server install it probably isn't installed
[01:37] <blackhaT> Okay
[01:37] <blackhaT> Thank you.
[01:37] <zandaa> anyone know any fun little games for gnome to install???
[01:38] <frogzoo> zandaa: lincity's pretty ok
[01:38] <Tuntis> Won't promise anything.
[01:38] <thoreauputic> Fujoor: you would need x-window-system-core and a window manager
[01:38] <Fujoor> ng: ah ... so to install say, xubuntu-desktop, i need the xserver-xorg and the xterm terminal, is that it?
[01:38] <Fujoor> and wdm, or was it xdm?
[01:38] <Hann> i ordered my CDs about 6 months ago and i;m still freakin waiting for my damn CDs!!!!!!!
[01:38] <Seveas> zandaa, xmoto, pingus, atomix, monkey-bubble
[01:38] <thoreauputic> Fujoor: or install xubuntu-desktop if you like xfce4
[01:39] <KiLRoY> thoreauputic: what i have is a desktop resolution of 640 x480 and "gdm" not running.
[01:39] <Seveas> Hann, hoary cd's are no longer sent, so you will probably never receive those
[01:39] <thoreauputic> Fujoor: xubuntu-desktop includes an xserver
[01:39] <Fujoor> ah, so i should apt-get xubuntu-desktop and x-window-system-core, thats it? lovely :)
[01:39] <blackhaT> if I have 4 partitions on my drive, can I make the 4th partition bootable and put grub on it?
[01:39] <siriusnova> hi
[01:39] <Hann> before that, i made another order and it never came
[01:39] <thoreauputic> KiLRoY: so you didn't get a login screen?
[01:39] <siriusnova> I have a question, I have a 400mhz PII with 256 mb RAM, should I run ubuntu?
[01:39] <Fujoor> does xubuntu-desktop come with the terminal windows and all?
[01:39] <Ng> blackhaT: that depends on your bios and disk setup, but probably if it's a fairly new PC
[01:39] <Hann> it's like ubuntu hates me
[01:39] <docta_v> blackhaT, no need to change which partition is bootable
[01:39] <thoreauputic> KiLRoY: how did you start X then?
[01:39] <blackhaT> its a dell inspiron 6000, just bought it.
[01:40] <docta_v> since you can install grub to the MBR
[01:40] <siriusnova> its an IBM Thinkpad 600E
[01:40] <blackhaT> I don't want too.
[01:40] <zandaa> seveas: it can't finbd xmoto in the repositories
[01:40] <blackhaT> I want to install it on the Linux root partition
[01:40] <KiLRoY> thoreauputic: yes i got a login screen at startup
[01:40] <Seveas> Hann, more like post office or US customs...
[01:40] <Hann> maybe
[01:40] <thoreauputic> KiLRoY: *cough* that would be gdm then
[01:40] <Seveas> zandaa, grab it from seveas.ubuntulinux.nl (in breezy there was a bug that caused it to not be included)
[01:40] <docta_v> yea you could do that then...as long as it's a primary partition
[01:40] <docta_v> and not extended
[01:40] <Fujoor> ng: does the xubuntu-desktop come with the fancy transparent terminals and all?
[01:40] <Seveas> zandaa, and don't forget supertux :)
[01:40] <blackhaT> How do I make it primary
[01:40] <Hann> i'm just so frustrated....
[01:40] <thoreauputic> KiLRoY: so you have your terminology mixed Ithink
[01:40] <Ng> Fujoor: I have no idea, but probably not
[01:40] <zandaa> seveas: thanks :)
[01:41] <Ng> Fujoor: if you want a pretty desktop, install ubuntu-desktop, not xubuntu-desktop
[01:41] <Ng> Fujoor: or just do a full install ;)
[01:41] <thoreauputic> !tell KiLRoY about fixres
[01:41] <Fujoor> ng: but the comp im gonna install it aint that new :)
[01:41] <siriusnova> is Ubuntu on a 400mhz PII with 256mb RAm going to be a crap experience like SUSE?
[01:41] <siriusnova> or should i go back to freebsd :(
[01:41] <Ng> Fujoor: then you probably don't want transparent terminals
[01:41] <Fujoor> ng: thats why i was consindering xubuntu, but xubuntu looks quite nice on the screenshots
[01:41] <Seveas> siriusnova, try xubuntu
[01:41] <dragoon> openbsd! ftw
[01:41] <siriusnova> what is xubuntu?
[01:41] <docta_v> siriusnova, it mainly depends on your window manager
[01:42] <Seveas> siriusnova, ubuntu with xfce instead of gnome
[01:42] <siriusnova> doct_v - im guessing gnome is out of the question
[01:42] <zandaa> seveas: if I download it from your website, how do I install it if it's on desktop?
[01:42] <docta_v> siriusnova, heh heh...i wouldn't even run gnome on a 3ghz
[01:42] <siriusnova> heh
[01:42] <Seveas> zandaa, you should add that repository to your sources.list and use apt
[01:42] <docta_v> xfce is nice...you'll like that
[01:42] <Ng> docta_v: plenty would :)
[01:42] <blackhaT> Okay I have four partitions, 1 is windows, 1 is a restore, 1 linux and 1 linux swap, i want to install grub on linux and make it bootable just incase something goes wrong it wont affect my windows
[01:42] <siriusnova> I usually run FreeBSD on my laptop, but as of late im thinking Linux
[01:42] <blackhaT> is this possible if so how can I do it dfuring the installation
[01:42] <zandaa> seveas: ah.. thanks I'm still not used to the way linux works
[01:42] <docta_v> or slome as i call it
[01:43] <Seveas> docta_v, how many ghz would it take to let you run KDE? :)
[01:43] <Ng> docta_v: lame :)
[01:43] <docta_v> KDE is faster than gnome
[01:43] <Seveas> rofl
[01:43] <docta_v> it always has been
[01:43] <Seveas> kde is overhead & eyecandy central
[01:43] <docta_v> i don't use kde either though...i prefer xfce
[01:43] <Seveas> it;s technically impossible for it to be faster
[01:44] <interoz> i am a debian user and don't know much of ubuntu. i installed ubuntu at a friend of mine, who's a linux newbie. the problem is that after a plain install gnome didn't start (could not understand why). so i installed xfce, and it went fine. how can i actually use gnome?
[01:44] <czr> it's possible to disable all eyecandy and use a lighter theme
[01:44] <czr> then it will fly Seveas
[01:44] <oggah> siriusnova, what freebsd version you run on your laptop? and what manufactor is your laptop?
[01:44] <Seveas> czr, same for gnome :)
[01:44] <czr> Seveas, but gnome uses GTK+ which uses pango which makes text painful
[01:44] <Ng> I'm on a 1.6Ghz Pentium M and gnome runs fine
[01:44] <Ng> czr: s/painful/beautiful/ :)
[01:45] <siriusnova> oggah - last version I ran was 5.4 and its an IBM Thinkpad 600E
[01:45] <Ng> and the CPU is idling at 50% speed most of the time
[01:45] <czr> painfully slow compared to anything else. happy Ng? :-)
[01:45] <Myrtti> I'm on a 800MHz Duron and Gnome runs fine
[01:45] <Ng> czr: no, because that's rubbish :)
[01:45] <Ng> czr: are you running an unaccelerated X driver or something?
[01:45] <oggah> siriusnova, interesting. I got a thinkpad T41. And really want to run either *bsd or linux on it.
[01:45] <czr> Ng, everything is fine at my end
[01:45] <siriusnova> http://www.ece.umr.edu/~taknnc/600E.html
[01:45] <siriusnova> ^^
[01:45] <samu2> my p3 600 runs reasonably well
[01:45] <Seveas> czr, pango is still somewhat unoptimized, but it's great. Dappers pango will be muvh better though
[01:45] <czr> Gtk-based apps are just more sluggish, esp since pango
[01:46] <czr> just compare any gtk1.2 vs 2.6/2.7
[01:46] <ndlovu> thoreauputic: thanks, java working great now! update-alternatives also good to know about.
[01:46] <czr> 2.8 :-)
[01:46] <Seveas> czr, but gtk1 is plain ugly
[01:46] <thoreauputic> ndlovu: glad to hear it :)
[01:46] <czr> yes, but it's fast. and I think that was the issue here
[01:47] <czr> saying something like 'technically it's impossible for beat gnome in speed' is rather daft imho
[01:47] <Seveas> not in case of KDE
[01:47] <Seveas> that has overhead written al over it in big red letters :)
[01:47] <czr> on all the computers that I've used, kde has always been more responsive once you disable shadows and all that shit
[01:48] <thoreauputic> !start adesktop war
[01:48] <ubotu> thoreauputic: Are you smoking crack?
[01:48] <thoreauputic> !start a desktop war
[01:48] <ubotu> ratpoison is much better than xfce!
[01:48] <czr> but that's just me, I don't care :-)
[01:48] <thoreauputic> hear hear!
[01:48] <samu2> he he
[01:48] <Seveas> ratpoison...
[01:48] <thoreauputic> really, lets forget the KDE vs Gnome stuff
[01:48] <dragoon> fluxbox is better then both
[01:48] <dragoon> end of story
[01:49] <siriusnova> oggah - http://gerda.univie.ac.at/freebsd-laptops/
[01:49] <oggah> siriusnova, cool. what window manager comes with freebsd?
[01:49] <thoreauputic> dragoon: you won't get any argument from me on that one :)
[01:49] <dragoon> :)
[01:49] <oggah> *freebsd-newbie* got some small experiences with linux.
[01:49] <Seveas> CARBON BEATS ALL!!1121!!@
[01:49] <siriusnova> oggah - no window manager comes as default, you choose what you want
[01:50] <siriusnova> FreeBSD basically requires you to set up everything
[01:50] <samu2> carbon sure is the best element
[01:50] <Seveas> thoreauputic, well..
[01:50] <siriusnova> when you install x.org you can also install the window manager of your choosing
[01:50] <zandaa> seveas, I can't seem to add the repository...
[01:51] <oggah> okay.
[01:51] <Seveas> zandaa, why not?
[01:51] <oggah> ive heard the freebsd installation is kinda complicated.
[01:51] <siriusnova> anyway FreeBSD is nice, but i felt like using linux, at the moment im using Knoppix as I hosed my harddrive :)
[01:51] <oggah> siriusnova, what WM do you run?
[01:51] <zandaa> seveas, it won't appear in my list when I click add>custom>seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:51] <Seveas> oggah, it's not as easy as ubuntu
[01:51] <siriusnova> oggah - its definetly not for newbies, FreeBSD requires you to set up everything manually. The best place to start is to read the handbook http://www.freebsd.org/handbook
[01:52] <Seveas> zandaa, you need to add deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ ubuntu-seveas breezy-custom
[01:52] <dragoon> openbsd / netbsd are alot nicer
[01:52] <Seveas> (iirc)
[01:52] <Chousuke> oggah: it is after you get used to the easy installation that distros like Debian offers. :P
[01:52] <dragoon> new freebsd is wierd
[01:52] <zandaa> seveas ah ok
[01:52] <siriusnova> actually i take that back, i first started with FreeBSD since I hated slackware hehe
[01:52] <Seveas> zandaa, you need to add deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ breezy-seveas breezy-custom
[01:52] <siriusnova> actually the FreeBSD install is pretty darn easy
[01:52] <Seveas> (my bad)
[01:53] <oggah> Chousuke, I presume so :)
[01:53] <zandaa> seveas: now the synaptic program doesn't want to respond <_<
[01:53] <siriusnova> it guides you through it
[01:53] <oggah> siriusnova, kay.
[01:53] <siriusnova> but FreeBSD requires you to read the handbook, as EVERYTHING is explained in it.
[01:53] <Seveas> zandaa, then simply use a text editor to add that line to /etc/apt/sources.list :)
[01:53] <Tuntis> Hello people
[01:53] <Seveas> Hi Tuntis
[01:53] <siriusnova> everything from servers to confugring X
[01:53] <Tuntis> I destroyed my Ubuntu installation
[01:53] <Tuntis> Now I want to reinstall it
[01:53] <Tuntis> But Grub is on the way.
[01:53] <Seveas> Tuntis, pop in the cd and repeat what you did last time you installed :)
[01:53] <Tuntis> If I delete the Ubuntu partitions, grub won't work.
[01:53] <zandaa> seveas: I take it I have to use sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[01:54] <Seveas> zandaa, correct
[01:54] <oggah> siriusnova, what window manage / desktop envir. you run on freebsd?
[01:54] <Tuntis> I were going to ask, if just formatting them and directly booting from the ubuntu cd would work.
[01:54] <zandaa> seveas: yay, I understand the sudo concept :P
[01:54] <siriusnova> oggah - KDE
[01:54] <Tuntis> (wait, deleting them)
[01:54] <siriusnova> or twm, when im feeling elite
[01:54] <siriusnova> lol
[01:54] <Seveas> zandaa, good :)
[01:54] <Seveas> siriusnova, twm!
[01:54] <thoreauputic> siriusnova: or masochistic ... ;)
[01:54] <kuRupT> wich one must i downlaod? -> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp
[01:54] <oggah> siriusnova, isnt KDE slow on that machine?
[01:54] <siriusnova> actually i use twm a lot because its simple and doesn't use resources :)
[01:54] <joda_> can someone tell me how I get a list of current connections to and from my machine?
[01:54] <Seveas> twm is cool for the minimalistic
[01:54] <siriusnova> oggah - FreeBSD is very fast so KDE doesnt seem slow at all
[01:55] <Seveas> I used it on the old crappy sparc4 machines
[01:55] <siriusnova> Seveas - i like minimalism
[01:55] <siriusnova> twm also makes me feel like im some kind of uber hacker
[01:55] <siriusnova> :P
[01:55] <oggah> cool. KDE with ubuntu is slow ive heard.
[01:55] <Seveas> joda_, netstat -t
[01:55] <joda_> thanks
[01:55] <alley_m> hello... want to start a second xserver on display 3... I don't understand the syntax in man startx... anyone inside to tell me the needed command?
[01:55] <siriusnova> oggah - compared to Linux, FreeBSD hauls..
[01:55] <thoreauputic> joda_: install iftop and do something like  sudo iftop -BP -i eth0
[01:55] <zandaa> seveas: now I can't use the terminal to apt-get because the synaptic froze on me and is still accessing stuff
[01:55] <Seveas> alley_m, startx :3 (iirc)
[01:55] <kuRupT> can someone help me? wich one must i downlaod? -> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp
[01:56] <siriusnova> I ran Gnome and KDE on my 400mhz PII, i ran suse on the same laptop and it was DOG slow
[01:56] <alley_m> not with -d?
[01:56] <oggah> siriusnova, sorry. hauls? dont understand that word.
[01:56] <siriusnova> oggah - really fast
[01:56] <oggah> ah!
[01:56] <Seveas> zandaa, killall synaptic
[01:56] <zandaa> trough terminal?
[01:56] <Tuntis> So Seveas
[01:56] <Seveas> alley_m, not at all improbable, last time I used startx is a long long time ago
[01:56] <oggah> very snappy? responsive?
[01:56] <Tuntis> I delete the old Ubuntu partitions and boot from the install cd?
[01:56] <alley_m> hm.. ok... will give it a try...
[01:57] <Chousuke> the FreeBSD Handbook is excellent.
[01:57] <interoz> anyone has issues with gnome just right after install? issues = after gdm login it doesn't start
[01:57] <Seveas> Tuntis, or you simply let the installer overwrite the old partitions
[01:57] <siriusnova> oggah - FreeBSD is a great OS, but it is a TRUE UNIX, it doesnt hold your hand, but it will guide you through everything with the excellent documentation..
[01:57] <siriusnova> oggah - yes, very fast and responsive
[01:57] <Seveas> siriusnova, stop spamming freebsd :p
[01:57] <oggah> siriusnova, thats the only thing I dislike bout ubuntu. even with lighweight window managers. it isnt very snappy and responsive.
[01:57] <rob1> Seveas, good call
[01:57] <siriusnova> Chousuke - yeah FreeBSD handbook is great, every Linux distro needs a FreeBSD Handbook counterpart
[01:57] <Seveas> siriusnova, that's true...
[01:57] <siriusnova> lol Seveas
[01:58] <Chousuke> siriusnova: Debian documentation is quite good too.
[01:58] <zandaa> seveas: it still can't find the xmoto package
[01:58] <Chousuke> I think EVERY OSS project need a FreeBSD handbook counterpart.
[01:58] <thoreauputic> freeBSD ---> #ubuntu-offtopic  ;-)
[01:58] <alley_m> hm.. invalid MIT-MAGIG-Cookie-Key 1... @seveas
[01:58] <siriusnova> lol
[01:58] <Seveas> zandaa, apt-get update
[01:58] <siriusnova> Chousuke - debian documentation is great, if you can get past the install :P
[01:58] <zandaa> seveas, ah thanks
[01:58] <siriusnova> i gave up trying to install debian because it was nuts
[01:59] <kuRupT> can someone help meee????????? ..
[01:59] <Chousuke> siriusnova: the install is easy ;P
[01:59] <docta_v> freebsd is cool but it should come with a drill so you can drill a hole in your skull to relieve pressure on your brain after finishing with the install process
[01:59] <Seveas> siriusnova, debian install actually is quite easy
[01:59] <thoreauputic> siriusnova: the install is much easier than it was with Woody
[01:59] <Seveas> !tell kuRupT about anyone
[01:59] <dragoon> docta_v: freebsd is easy to install
[01:59] <Chousuke> My first ever successfull linux install was debian woody
[01:59] <siriusnova> thoreauputic - i guess they improved it
[01:59] <Chousuke> I failed with mandrake and fedora.
[01:59] <thoreauputic> siriusnova: indeed
[01:59] <Seveas> siriusnova, Ubuntu uses the same installer ;)
[01:59] <Chousuke> I fot them installed, but they didn't work
[01:59] <kuRupT> Seveas,  wich one must i downlaod? -> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp
[01:59] <Chousuke> got*
[02:00] <Chousuke> ergo, debian's installation was easier.
[02:00] <Seveas> kuRupT, 'linux self extracting binary'
[02:00] <frogzoo> if I install fluxbox as wm, will things break? is it much faster than gdm ?
[02:00] <thoreauputic> !tell kuRupT about javadeb
[02:00] <Seveas> NOT the rpm
[02:00] <siriusnova> anyway oggah - try freebsd if you like it, its true Unix and as such you will learn a lot, in many ways its similar to linux, pick your poison :)
[02:00] <Chousuke> frogzoo: gdm isn't a WM
[02:00] <zandaa> seveas: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/5550
[02:00] <Chousuke> frogzoo: but yes, fluxbox is fast.
[02:00] <zogbuntu> evms_open_engine() failed with error code 13: Permission denied
[02:00] <Chousuke> it's just not as easy to use as gnome, because it's not a DE
[02:01] <zogbuntu> got this applying updates after a straight install
[02:01] <Seveas> zandaa, je moet mijn key nog aan apt doorgeven
[02:01] <zogbuntu> google doesnt show much ubuntu specific, is it a FAQ?
[02:01] <zandaa> seveas, which key is that?
[02:01] <Seveas> gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 1135D466
[02:01] <Seveas> gpg --export --armor 1135D466 | sudo apt-key add -
[02:01] <kuRupT> h Seveas where is 'linux self extracting binary' i cant find it
[02:01] <oggah> siriusnova, I am definitely going to try freebsd, sometime. Right now Im in the middle of learning Ubuntu, linux. What version of freebsd do you recommend?
[02:02] <Seveas> kuRupT, do you want to compile java things?
[02:02] <Seveas> or just run them?
[02:02] <frogzoo> Chousuke: DE ?
[02:02] <Chousuke> desktop environment
[02:02] <frogzoo> ah, thx
[02:03] <siriusnova> oggah - i think 6.0 is the newest release
[02:03] <KiLRoY> thoreauputic: what was that link again for the fix res prob - firefox would not start b4
[02:03] <Seveas> !fixres
[02:03] <ubotu> hmm... fixres is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:03] <kuRupT> Seveas, jey i wont to compile it.. for my aureus and so one
[02:03] <siriusnova> but before you try it, at least glance through the handbook http://www.freebsd.org/handbook
[02:03] <joda_> how do I check if a specific kernel option is selected?
[02:03] <thoreauputic> !fixres
[02:03] <siriusnova> it explains everything, how to compile the kernel, set up sound, install packages etc..
[02:03] <KiLRoY> thx
[02:03] <thoreauputic> heh I didn't see that seveas, sorry ;)
[02:04] <Seveas> kuRupT, then click the 'Download jdk 5.0 update 6' link
[02:04] <kuRupT> Seveas, but wich one of theme? http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[02:04] <siriusnova> anyway - back to Ubuntu
[02:04] <siriusnova> so should I try Ubuntu or stick to freebsd? :(
[02:04] <No1Viking> What application should I use to look at a DVD?
[02:04] <kuRupT> Seveas, ah oke thx
[02:04] <zandaa> Seveas, hoe geef ik jouw key door aan apt??? (en wat is die key??)
[02:04] <siriusnova> especially on a 400mhz PII with 256mb RAM
[02:04] <Seveas> kuRupT, none of the ones from giannaros.org, they are outdate
[02:05] <Seveas> zandaa, gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 1135D466
[02:05] <kuRupT> hm
[02:05] <Seveas> zandaa, gpg --export --armor 1135D466 | sudo apt-key add -
[02:05] <kuRupT> Seveas, and then this one Download Now!  Linux RPM in self-extracting file or this one Download Now!  Linux self-extracting file
[02:06] <Seveas> kurros, linux self-extracting file
[02:06] <Seveas> NOT the rpm
[02:06] <Seveas> kuRupT*
[02:06] <kuRupT> oki
[02:06] <kuRupT> i'm sry.. but i dont speak english wery well xD
[02:06] <joda__> I got disconnected, so I'm afraid I'll have to ask again: how do I check if a kernel option has been selected?
[02:07] <Seveas> kuRupT, good enough :)
[02:07] <kuRupT> Seveas, hehe :D from where are you all?..
[02:08] <kuRupT> <--- is from europe :D
[02:08] <Seveas> kuRupT, there are localized channels too, #ubuntu-de #ubutnu-it or #ubuntu-fr should work for you :)
[02:08] <frauholle> Germany
[02:08] <kuRupT> Seveas, i know =) i speak german.. i'm also in #ubuntu-de ;)
[02:09] <kuRupT> frauholle, gut gg ;P
[02:09] <liam01> gutntag
[02:09] <liam01> lol
[02:09] <kuRupT> hehe
[02:09] <kuRupT> moinZ
[02:09] <kuRupT> <-- from Swiss =)
[02:09] <sonorous> tachZ
[02:09] <zandaa> seveas: alsnog wil hij niet werken, hij geeft een paar foutmeldingen
[02:10] <Seveas> zandaa, on the pastebin please :)
[02:11] <nifelseki> hi guys.. need help to have my g132 wireless adapter to work..
[02:11] <nifelseki> having a hard time making use of ndiswrapper
[02:11] <corresponder> which chipset?
[02:12] <nifelseki> atheros
[02:12] <Seveas> atheros does not need ndiswrapper
[02:12] <paines> nifelseki, madwifi drivers
[02:12] <nifelseki> hmmmmm.. i'll try that.. thanks
[02:12] <thoron> There seems to be no trully free WLAN drivers available.
[02:12] <zandaa> seveas: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/5551
[02:13] <thoron> At least for 54Mbps speed.
[02:13] <liam01> the defaults have always worked for me
[02:13] <Seveas> zandaa, gpg --export --armor 1135D466 | sudo -H apt-key add -
[02:14] <Seveas> zandaa, and the first command did not need sudo, you might have messed up something
[02:14] <zandaa> seveas: so what do I do now??? (the command you just sent didn't wanna work either)
[02:14] <Seveas> zandaa, if this still errors out: sudo gpg --export --armor 1135D466 | sudo apt-key add -
[02:16] <zandaa> seveas: it finally accepted it :D thanks
[02:16] <joda__> can anyone please tell me where I can find out which options the ubuntu kernel was compiled with?
[02:17] <Seveas> joda__, /boot/config-$YOUR_VERSION
[02:18] <zandaa> seveas: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/5552 < nog steeds kan hij niet vinden
[02:18] <joda__> Seveas: thanks, I appreciate it
[02:18] <Seveas> zandaa, sudo apt-get update
[02:18] <zandaa> seveas: heb ik ook al geprobeerd
[02:19] <Seveas> zandaa, output -> pastebin :)
[02:19] <dragoon> whats with the whole ubuntu no root thing
[02:19] <zandaa> seveas: will do
[02:19] <rob1> dragoon, you don't need it
[02:19] <Seveas> !tell dragoon about root
[02:19] <dragoon> rob1: i know that
[02:19] <rob1> dragoon, you can always get a root terminal by doing sudo -s
[02:20] <Seveas> rob1, eek
[02:20] <Seveas> sudo -i
[02:20] <dragoon> tru
[02:20] <rob1> Seveas, does it matter?
[02:20] <Seveas> rob1, yes
[02:20] <zandaa> seveas: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/5553
[02:20] <Seveas> -s does not reset $HOME
[02:22] <zandaa> robl, using sudo is more secure
[02:23] <nifelseki> ok.. guys.. madwifi won't work.. i'm using usb.. god.. i'm back to ndiswrapper..
[02:23] <garbageman> hi
[02:23] <chrisx1> hey i was installin some packages but i get power outage
[02:23] <chrisx1> and i cant seem to get gnome to work
[02:23] <liam01> debian doesnt allow root logons either
[02:23] <|Gmp|> im going to bed guys, cya all later
[02:23] <garbageman> i need some help ...
[02:24] <jeremywhiting> garbageman: what's up?
[02:24] <chrisx1> hey i was installin some packages but i get power outage can any1 help i cant get back into gnome! or any desktop
[02:24] <garbageman> hi im iinstalling epsxe (1.60) and i cant run it...
[02:25] <nifelseki> liam0l: try sudo -s.. it's not root logons but it might just do the trick
[02:25] <chrisx> sorry dc'd
[02:25] <jeremywhiting> garbageman: what does it do when you try
[02:25] <chrisx> can any1 help please?
[02:25] <nifelseki> creates a shell of sudo
[02:25] <liam01> oh i was just makin a point nifelseki but thx
[02:25] <liam01> =)
[02:25] <nifelseki> it's like you've logged in as root
[02:26] <jeremywhiting> chrisx1 log in as your normal user and do sudo aptitude or whatever to restart installing those packages
[02:26] <nifelseki> either that or you can enable root logons
[02:26] <garbageman> @ jeremywhiting : it a error ...: /usr/games/epsxe: line 25: lndir: command not found
[02:26] <chrisx> jeremywhiting i cant log int to anydesktop and theres none to be continued they was being installed and power went
[02:26] <shanonx> anyone know where I can get point 2 play?
[02:26] <jeremywhiting> chrisx: so log in to the console
[02:27] <jeremywhiting> don't you get any login prompt?
[02:27] <chrisx> jeremywhiting im loged in to console now
[02:27] <chrisx> usin bitchx
[02:27] <chrisx> what command shall i run?
[02:27] <jeremywhiting> ok, so sudo aptitude and continue installing whatever you were installing before
[02:28] <dragoon> shanonx: #cedega
[02:28] <chrisx> ok ill try
[02:28] <liam01> sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:28] <liam01> chrisx
[02:28] <shanonx> dragoon: thanks
[02:28] <garbageman> @ jeremywhiting:
[02:28] <garbageman> what can i do?
[02:29] <jeremywhiting> garbageman: maybe edit /usr/games/epsxe and see what it's talking about on line 25
[02:29] <chrisx> jeremywhiting how do i fix broken packages?
[02:29] <jeremywhiting> or see if you can find lndir somewhere and fix the /usr/games/epsxe script
[02:29] <jeremywhiting> seems like /usr/games/epsxe is a bash script, or some kind of script anyway
[02:29] <jeremywhiting> should just be able to edit it
[02:30] <Insidious> is point2play included as part of the cvs cedega now?
[02:30] <garbageman> @ jeremywhiting :# Populate the doghouse
[02:30] <garbageman> lndir -silent /usr/share/games/psx-bios			bios
[02:30] <chrisx> jeremywhiting how do i fix broken packages?
[02:31] <oggah> what wifi pc-card do you recommend? not only to work in linux, but also. good sensitivity? etc.
[02:31] <oggah> what manufacturer.
[02:31] <garbageman> i dont have the command lndir....
[02:31] <oggah> and/or model.
[02:31] <dragoon> Atheros are good
[02:31] <shanonx> What would cause me to exit GUI and go to terminal when I hit CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE... instead of just going to GUI login?
[02:31] <zandaa> oggah: Sitecom is also a good manufacturer
[02:31] <oggah> what about 3com?
[02:32] <oggah> quality?
[02:32] <chrisx> grr ffs
[02:32] <zandaa> oggah, never heard of 3com
[02:32] <chrisx> how do i fix broken packages?
[02:32] <dragoon> chrisx: try apt-get -f install
[02:34] <chrisx> dragoon that did nothing
[02:34] <Insidious> shanonx, that key combo kills x... and normally the session manager brings it back up with the login window.  sounds like your session manager isn't set up right
[02:34] <shanonx> Insidious: is tehre a way to check to see or fix my session manager?
[02:34] <Insidious> shanonx, (session manager is gdm in ubuntu)
[02:35] <Insidious> shanonx, yeah, check if it's running from terminal
[02:35] <Insidious> shanonx, type "ps -A" and see if it's in the list
[02:35] <SirKillalot> how can I make alsa play a sound file?
[02:35] <dragoon> shannonx: ps aux | grep gdm
[02:36] <Insidious> ya, that's better :P
[02:36] <shanonx> Insidious: yes its actually listed 2 times.
[02:36] <interoz> know how to solve this?
[02:36] <interoz> ALSA lib pcm_direct.c:203:(make_local_socket) connect failed: /tmp/alsa-dmix-8948-1134134785-309856: Permission denied
[02:36] <interoz> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:898:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to connect client
[02:36] <interoz> Can't find a suitable libao driver. (Is device in use?)
[02:36] <jeremywhiting> garbageman: debian has lndir in their xutils package
[02:36] <jeremywhiting> try installing ubuntu's and see if that fixes the problem
[02:36] <pr4vst3r> hello, can anybody help with a wep/orinoco/breezy issue?
[02:37] <Insidious> shanonx, it should be.  check your /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[02:37] <garbageman> the package xulils is installed
[02:37] <garbageman> ...
[02:37] <Insidious> shanonx, it has some settings in there that might fix it
[02:37] <jeremywhiting> hmm, ok
[02:38] <garbageman> hmm ...
[02:38] <garbageman> ???
[02:38] <garbageman> version 6.8.2-77
[02:38] <chrisx> how do i fix broken packages?
[02:39] <chrisx> i amma reinstall ubuntu
[02:39] <chrisx> umm
[02:39] <chrisx> bbs ppl
[02:39] <nabucodor> aiutooooo devo installare i driver per ma mia scheda tv DVB ne canale italiano non c' nessuno che mi aiuti qui c' qualcuno? perfavore
[02:39] <nabucodor> :(
[02:39] <garbageman> reinstall packages @chrisx
[02:39] <chrisx> garbageman i cant how?
[02:39] <chrisx> i dont know whats missing
[02:40] <djk_> !it
[02:40] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:40] <Tuntis> Should I take Kubuntu or not; I apt-getted kubuntu-desktop and it looked horrible
[02:40] <garbageman> run synaptik
[02:40] <garbageman> @chrisx
[02:40] <nabucodor> after
[02:41] <dragoon> xfce rocks.
[02:41] <dragoon> i just changed to it then
[02:41] <pr4vst3r> hello, can anybody help with a wep/orinoco/breezy issue?
[02:41] <chrisx> bbl
[02:42] <pr4vst3r> hello, can anybody help with a wep/orinoco/breezy issue please ... pretty please?
[02:43] <nabucodor> you help me to install driver for mine dvb the SAA7146?
[02:43] <shanonx> Insidious: I really dont know what Im looking for.. I dont see anything that looks very different.
[02:43] <pinucset> sth for seeing a keyboard in my monitor? ive broken finger and i cant write ok...
[02:44] <garbageman> :(
[02:44] <chrisx> how do i send a file via scp ?
[02:45] <Ng> scp file user@hostname:/remote/path/
[02:45] <chrisx> ty
[02:45] <pinucset> sth for seeing a keyboard in my monitor? ive broken finger and i cant write ok...
[02:46] <EXE> Firefox won't start up, I've reinstalled and rebooted several times. It returns an error from "chrome://browser/content/broser.xul
[02:47] <EXE> Does anybody know how to fix it?
[02:47] <taga123> re install:)
[02:47] <taga123> re install:)
[02:47] <garbageman> try as root  sudo girefox
[02:48] <arkanes> EXE: using synaptic, do a "complete removal"
[02:48] <arkanes> You've got a corrupted theme/profile
[02:49] <EXE> "dpkg - warning: while removing firefox, directory '/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components' was not empty so not removed."
[02:49] <EXE> For all the folders, though.
[02:51] <dseomn> !tell me about flash
[02:52] <Tedd> Hey.
[02:52] <Tedd> Anybody around? I just need help installing a simple .bin.
[02:52] <Tedd> I try to extract but it says that there was an error.
[02:52] <Tedd> For any reference, it's Zend Studio.
[02:53] <pr4vst3r> WEP Issue: WEP On - No association, WEP off - associates fine. OS: Ubuntu 5.10, Dell D600, 2Wire [orinoco]  802.11, orinoco_cs 0.15rc3 driver.  Any ideas?
[02:53] <dseomn> Tedd: could you provide a link to the instructions you're following please?
[02:53] <Tedd> dseomn, there were none. I just downloaded the .tar.gz and tried to extract it.
[02:53] <dseomn> pr4vst3r: are you using wpa_supplicant, waproamd, or anything else to automatically connect?
[02:54] <Tedd> It wouldn't extract- gaveme an error..
[02:54] <Tedd> Should I try downloading again? It might be a corrupt file.
[02:54] <dseomn> what's the error?
[02:54] <sabmann> Tedd, what error? Tedd, you just said u where installing a .bin not a tar
[02:54] <pr4vst3r> no not using either.. should i be doing?
[02:54] <garbageman> @ jeremywhiting : can i rewirt the command in ln.... (ln -?)
[02:55] <dseomn> pr4vst3r: it doesn't matter, did you do "iwconfig <iface> key secret" before trying to associate?
[02:55] <Tedd> sabmann, sorry. I was trying to extract a .tar.gz. It gave me an error.
[02:55] <garbageman> in the epsxe.sh
[02:55] <Tedd> I think I got it now.
[02:55] <Tedd> It was just a corrupt file.
[02:55] <sabmann> ok
[02:55] <Tedd> Downloading again. Thanks.
[02:55] <[o] rkin> plz help, I'm given a registrtation ID for modem unit.  it tells me to go to linuxant but doesn't specirfy where I can enter my registration ID to get the license key
[02:56] <pinucset> sth for seeing a keyboard in my monitor? ive broken finger and i cant write ok...
[02:56] <pr4vst3r> dseomn; yep WEP key is assigned correctly , can see it in iwconfig output
[02:56] <kbrooks> how do i add a user?
[02:57] <Nikusan> I can't open a disc drive using the eject button on the drive, I have to choose eject from the disc icon's context menu... how do I fix this?
[02:57] <kbrooks> nm
[02:57] <dseomn> pr4vst3r: does wep work with any other computers?
[02:58] <chrisx> tyHey if i reinstsaall 5.04 how easy is it to upgrade to 5.10 through net?
[02:58] <pr4vst3r> dseomn: yes .. works with windows laptops fine ...
[02:58] <garbageman> system... user and gruops @kbrooks
[02:58] <dseomn> chrisx: it's easy, but it will take some time
[02:58] <kbrooks> nm
[02:58] <liam01> is it in hexidecimal mode pr4vst3r
[02:58] <garbageman> nm?
[02:58] <kbrooks> never mind
[02:59] <kbrooks> i figureed it out
[02:59] <garbageman> thx
[02:59] <chrisx> couase atm dseomn i cant find my disk for 5.10
[02:59] <[o] rkin> I have four extra!
[02:59] <liam01> pr4vst3r, choose hexidecimal mode in the options... because your key is probably using that
[02:59] <pr4vst3r> liam01: yep it sure is even assigned it an index of [1]  and then used iwconfig eth1 key [1] , then iwconfig eth1 key on and various other combinations
[02:59] <[o] rkin> sure they took 3 weeks to get here, but they arrived triumphantly
[03:00] <dseomn> chrisx: if you don't mind waiting while the stuff downloads and installs, there's not problem with installing 5.04 and upgrading
[03:00] <garbageman> terminal ... adduser
[03:00] <liam01> r u in 5.04 or 5.10?
[03:00] <dpupp> can someone telll me if this is correct?  dmesg | grep -i "SCSI device"
[03:00] <mrtwister> hello, i installed breezy-server. need kernel source
[03:00] <mrtwister> uname -a
[03:00] <mrtwister> Linux sawa.com 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[03:00] <chrisx> dseomn i have an average for 300kb/s downloads
[03:00] <mrtwister> when i installing kernel-source, i do not have such version
[03:00] <mrtwister> what i shall do?
[03:00] <shanonx> is there a certain setting in my gdm.conf that I should be looking for that causes my CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE not to work properly?
[03:01] <dseomn> chrisx: expect an hour or so
[03:01] <[o] rkin> plz help, I'm given a registrtation ID for modem unit.  it tells me to go to linuxant but doesn't specirfy where I can enter my registration ID to get the license key can anyone direct me to the right place?
[03:01] <dseomn> shanonx: it's in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:01] <dpupp> can someone telll me if this is properly formed? i cant seem to get any details back:  dmesg | grep -i "SCSI device"
[03:02] <pr4vst3r> liam01: 5.10
[03:02] <dseomn> dpupp: try dmesg | grep -i scsi
[03:02] <liam01> pr4vst3r, hmmm... not sure then, because in 5.04 i had to put " 0x" before the key
[03:03] <liam01> pr4vst3r, it should "just work" in 5.10
[03:03] <dpupp> dsomn, nothing.
[03:03] <dseomn> dpupp: what are you looking for?
[03:03] <pr4vst3r> liam01: I Wish!
[03:03] <floppyears> hi
[03:03] <dpupp> im trying to find out what device is my USB memory stick so i can mount it...
[03:03] <floppyears> how can I use tar
[03:03] <floppyears> to move my linux setup from /hdb2 to /hda7
[03:03] <kbrooks> floppyears, to do what? um
[03:04] <liam01> pr4vst3r, u sure youre using the right key from the router settings?  O.o
[03:04] <Lewix> does someone have a toshiba M45-169
[03:04] <dpupp> i was following a tutorial but im stuck at the part where it says to use dmesg | grep -i "SCSI device" ...that returns nothing at all.
[03:04] <kbrooks> that really isnt a suitable usage of tar
[03:04] <dseomn> dpupp: try "dmesg | tail -f 1" and then take the stick out and put it back in
[03:04] <floppyears> kbrooks: I want to move my linux setup from one partition to another by using tar
[03:04] <pr4vst3r> liam01: yep triple checked it .. even pasted it to file and copied it in to prevent any typos
[03:04] <floppyears> tar -cf /mnt/hdb7/ | tar -xp
[03:04] <y0m0mma> pr4vst3r .. are yu sure you got the computer turned on ? .. heh!
[03:04] <floppyears> but it's not working :(
[03:04] <kbrooks> floppyears, after you have "moved" the linux setup, you still have a lot to do
[03:05] <dpupp> dseomn, now the terminal is just at >
[03:05] <floppyears> kbrooks: I have used tar  before, but can't remember the specific command
[03:05] <kbrooks> floppyears, add -, and add - to the end of the pipe
[03:05] <liam01> well pr4vst3r afraid i have no idea -- havent head this b4
[03:05] <gimmulf_>  !crontab
[03:05] <ubotu> gimmulf_: I don't know, could you explain it?
[03:05] <liam01> hear*
[03:05] <pr4vst3r> liam01: thanks anyway
[03:05] <gimmulf_> how do i add something to crontab?
[03:05] <[o] rkin> does ubuntu have porn? they have to have something for me to look at while I'm waiting for it
[03:05] <dseomn> dpupp: oh sorry, I mean "dmesg | tail -f -n 1"
[03:06] <garbageman> cu
[03:06] <y0m0mma> what other files are there WEP related ../etc/networking/interfaces ..what else??? ..anyone ?
[03:06] <garbageman> have a lot of fun!!! :)
[03:06] <dseomn> [o] rkin: please keep it appropriate here
[03:06] <[o] rkin>  IE waiting for it to load
[03:06] <[o] rkin> becaus eit is being incredibly slow
[03:06] <dpupp> dseomn, i get: [4300011.292000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known. tail: standard input: file truncated tail: standard input: cannot seek to offset 0: Illegal seek
[03:07] <chrisx> ffs why cant i find my 5.10 disk!
[03:07] <gimmulf_> anyone know how to add an schedule to crontab?
[03:07] <nifelseki> how do install ndiswrapper..?
[03:07] <floppyears> kbrooks: thanks it's working now :)
[03:08] <Johnson> how can i get into ubuntu verstion of task manager?
[03:08] <pr4vst3r> ps ax
[03:08] <shanonx> dseomn: I checked out my xorg.conf and its the same as right after a clean install.
[03:09] <dpupp> dseomn , oh wait, now  i can run dmesg | grep -i "SCSI device" and it brings back information...... what happened? what was that command for?
[03:09] <idiot> i have a 1.6ghz comp but when I cat /proc/cpuinfo it says 600mhz and its not the bios setting its a program capping it
[03:09] <idiot> i forget the program name its daemon or something
[03:09] <idiot> how can i remove it and get back my normal speed.
[03:09] <y0m0mma> Johnson  type: top
[03:09] <Johnson> can someone help me plz
[03:09] <Johnson> k
[03:09] <SirKillalot> can I get panels like that in gnome? http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gaim204fq.jpg
[03:09] <dseomn> dpupp: it was to find new dmesg output, but it looks like you got it anyway, grep and tail are just filters (in this case)
[03:10] <chrisx> dseomn if i install 5.04 can u help me upgrade please?
[03:10] <dseomn> shanonx: ok, I'm clueless then, sry
[03:10] <Johnson> but how do i stop a program in it?
[03:10] <dseomn> chrisx: it's on the website, but if you have questions, you can ask here
[03:10] <dpupp> thanks dseomn!
[03:10] <shanonx> dseomn: ok thanks for your help though.
[03:10] <chrisx> ok
[03:10] <y0m0mma> man top .. i think its 'K'
[03:10] <chrisx> ffs hate reinstall amma loose my stuff:@
[03:11] <chrisx> cya
[03:11] <dseomn> chrisx: wait
[03:11] <Johnson> how do i get into teh GUI verrsion of top?
[03:11] <chrisx> fuckin stupid ubuntu
[03:11] <spdl> hi ganag
[03:11] <chrisx> yer?
[03:11] <spdl> gang i mean hehe
[03:11] <dseomn> chrisx: you can use a different partition for /home and you won't lose your stuff
[03:11] <chrisx> umm
[03:11] <chrisx> how do i do that?
[03:11] <chrisx> how can i delete that partion after im on then?
[03:11] <pr4vst3r> Any wireless experts out there?
[03:12] <Johnson> can some one help me plz
[03:12] <dseomn> chrisx: in the partition editor in the installer, chose manual and make one for swap, one for /, and one for /home
[03:12] <kbrooks> floppyears,
[03:12] <kbrooks> floppyears, ping
[03:12] <chrisx> nm its k ill loose my stuff
[03:12] <kbrooks> floppyears, there?
[03:12] <kbrooks> floppyears, btw
[03:12] <chrisx> just a reason to bash my pc more =] 
[03:12] <dseomn> ok
[03:12] <kbrooks> floppyears, explicit is better than implicit
[03:13] <chrisx> Cya... if i dont return then im back on windows..
[03:13] <Johnson> how do i close a program thoguth taski manager on ubuntu
[03:13] <floppyears> kbrooks: what ?
[03:13] <Tuntis> installing ubuntu ->>
[03:13] <kbrooks> floppyears, tar doesnt guess
[03:13] <gimmulf_> Not anyone know how do add something to crontab.hourly?
[03:13] <dpupp> anyone know what this means when trying to mount a USB memorystick?: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdh
[03:13] <dseomn> Johnson: Applications -> System Tools -> System Monitor
[03:13] <floppyears> kbrooks: what do you mean?
[03:13] <pr4vst3r> Johnson: on breezy: Applications -> System Tools -> System Monitor
[03:13] <Johnson> thanks
[03:14] <kbrooks> floppyears, explicit is better than implicit -- tar does not guess if you want to compress to stdin or not. without a "file" that can be written to, or read from, error
[03:14] <dseomn> dpupp: you need to use /dev/sdh1 or /dev/sdh5 or something
[03:14] <floppyears> kbrooks: yes, that's what I'm using. I have mounted them under two different directies within /mnt
[03:15] <dpupp> dseomn, is there a way i can find out for certain which is it?
[03:15] <dseomn> dpupp: are you using udev? (if you don't know what that is, then yes)
[03:16] <dpupp> no idea dseomn.
[03:16] <mherweg> hi everyone. I'd like to install java & flash for firefox on an amd64 system. do I need a 32bit firefox for that ?
[03:16] <Amaranth> Yes.
[03:16] <dseomn> dpupp: ok, use shell completion, only one partition (sdh*) should exist
[03:17] <thoron> So is Ubuntu AMD64 port in better shape than Debian AMD64?
[03:17] <Amaranth> thoron: *shrug*
[03:17] <dpupp> dseomn *huh?* im sorry i dont seem to understand your request. Type "shell completion" ......... or..... ummm..
[03:17] <Amaranth> does debian have an official amd64 port yet?
[03:17] <thoron> no
[03:17] <Ng> it's still on alioth
[03:18] <Ng> thoron: the ubuntu amd64 port is fine if you don't care about windows codecs or stupid browser plugins :)
[03:18] <dseomn> dpupp: type "echo /dev/sdh<tab><tab>"
[03:18] <thoron> Ng: I don't. I want to run bugzilla, apache, svn, gnu arch and so on as a server.
[03:18] <dpupp> sdh, sdh1
[03:18] <YukiIkyuta> Ng, though a 32-bit chroot fixes these problems.
[03:18] <dpupp> :) *takes note*
[03:18] <dseomn> dpupp: then it's sdh1 ;>
[03:19] <Ng> YukiIkyuta: definitely, but it's hardly a pleasant solution ;)
[03:19] <Ng> YukiIkyuta: I gave up on the 64bit/32bit combo after a few months ;)
[03:19] <YukiIkyuta> Ng, when set up, you don't even really notice it. ^^
[03:19] <YukiIkyuta> Really?
[03:19] <Ng> thoron: that'll be fine
[03:19] <dpupp> yatta! it worked!
[03:19] <YukiIkyuta> I'm using it now, and it seems to be all OK.
[03:20] <dpupp> thanks dseomn! *saves a log of conversation for future refference.*
[03:20] <dseomn> no prob
[03:20] <Ng> YukiIkyuta: there wasn't anything really wrong with it, I just came to the conclusion I wasn't really gaining anything over just running a 32bit install ;)
[03:20] <Ng> YukiIkyuta: I'm getting lazy in my old age ;)
[03:20] <YukiIkyuta> Ah :)
[03:20] <YukiIkyuta> I'm using the 64-bits in programming and such (admittedly not much, but still here and there).
[03:21] <Ng> I'd prefer to be taking full advantage of my hardware and will do when java/flash/codecs catch up :)
[03:22] <YukiIkyuta> ^^
[03:22] <dseomn> has anybody gotten sound with flash to work on dapper?
[03:22] <dseomn> *flash with sound
[03:23] <mherweg> Ng: how did u install a 32bit firefox on a 64bit system ?
[03:23] <bSON> does ubuntu havebuilt-in  mp3 support?
[03:23] <ph3r> no
[03:24] <Ng> mherweg: I used a 32bit chroot, but you could probably just download a firefox 1.5 tarball and install it anyway, you'd need to check the ia32-libs for stdc++5
[03:24] <bix> exit
[03:24] <dseomn> bSON: you just have to install gstreamer0.8-mad
[03:24] <bSON> on which repository?
[03:25] <dseomn> multiverse or universe, I don't remember
[03:25] <YukiIkyuta> mherweg, consider; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot
[03:25] <mherweg> tahnks
[03:29] <maxx_730> Hi all
[03:30] <YukiIkyuta> Hiya.
[03:30] <maxx_730> I've got a problem
[03:30] <maxx_730> My sound works in Ubuntu (and practically every Linux distribution) but not in Kubuntu or Xubuntu
[03:30] <maxx_730> Anyone got an idea?
[03:30] <docta_v> are you using the same driver?
[03:31] <wdh> maxx_730, i think you should also try #kubuntu then.. there is a lot more kde specific help available there :)
[03:31] <maxx_730> wdh: I tried #kubuntu first, but there was practically noone there
[03:32] <maxx_730> docta_v: How do i see? lsmod?
[03:32] <HymnToLife> hi all :)
[03:32] <I_Eat_Plastic> Does synaptic filter 64bit packages automaticly for 64bit users?
[03:33] <docta_v> maxx_730, yea lsmod
[03:34] <learnfromscratch> when i do make xconfig .. i am prompted to install QT .. can some one tell me  what is the exact package name of QT .. so that i can install .. apt-cache and apt-file report too many number of packages for me to pick up..
[03:35] <supaiku> I'm having a wierd problem with firefox and the internet. For the most part the internet works fine and I can access some pages just fine but I can't access some for no apparent reason (google for instance, while I can access ocforums.com and newgg) Anyone have any ideas?
[03:35] <supaiku> I also can't login to gaim
[03:37] <mrtwister> hello. how to get sources for breezy. strange thing, i do not have up2date sources in repository!
[03:37] <mrtwister> You do not appear to have the sources for the 2.6.12-9-386 kernel installed.
[03:37] <dooglus> learnfromscratch: you can make gconfig for the GTK version or menuconfig for a console version.  no point installing Qt just for that.
[03:37] <HymnToLife> mrtwister > than you can install them through synaptic
[03:37] <cas> hi, evolution keeps on crashing on some spam emails i receive. Are there some remedies to delete mails (or my h
[03:38] <cas> whole trash) manually?
[03:38] <bshumate>     supaiku:  sounds like your Internet provider may be having DNS issues.  if you know how to add a DNS server manually to your network setup, you may want to try adding 4.2.2.2 as a DNS server entry and see if all sites work again
[03:39] <mrtwister> HymnToLife: no, i have server install and not have correct kernel-source
[03:39] <supaiku> I'll try it, thanks
[03:39] <michael> newbie here ...i need help installing my wlan
[03:39] <HymnToLife> mrtwister > if you have only the command line, apt-get hould do the trick
[03:40] <jeenyusnoboarder> hey i have a quick question, how do i turn the synaptic package manager back to basic mode? lol
[03:40] <mrtwister> HymnToLife: again - no corrrect version in repository
[03:40] <dooglus> mrtwister: install package "linux-source-2.6.12" for the kernel source
[03:40] <HymnToLife> mrtwister > which kernel version do you run ?
[03:40] <[o] rkin> so anybody here know anything about finding the location of the linuxantpage that I enter the registration id I was given to get my license key (FREE)
[03:40] <[o] rkin> ?
[03:40] <dooglus> mrtwister: the kernel is called 'linux', not 'kernel' remember...
[03:40] <mrtwister> dooglus: thank you but why not kernel-source-2.6.12, as usual ?
[03:41] <YukiIkyuta> [o] rkin, what are you talking about? o_O
[03:41] <mrtwister> dooglus: working, thank you!
[03:41] <jeenyusnoboarder> rofl theres no way is there
[03:41] <HymnToLife> [o] rkin > http://www.inuxant.org probably
[03:41] <dooglus> mrtwister: I think they stopped calling the kernel 'kernel' and started calling it 'linux' some time around breezy's release.  not sure, maybe earlier.
[03:41] <jeenyusnoboarder> to switch it back to basic mode
[03:41] <digits> Hello, I have a slight problem with Evolution. I can't get it to show my Inbox, it's IMAP (and it works with squirrelmail, thunderbird and Opera mail)... any clues?
[03:41] <YukiIkyuta> jeenyusnoboarder, what do you mean, `basic'?
[03:41] <jeenyusnoboarder> well i went and hit advanced mode by accadent
[03:41] <[o] rkin> I knoiw thats wher i went to get th linux driver for my conexant modem
[03:42] <[o] rkin> and the deb was installing fine
[03:42] <jeenyusnoboarder> i wana put it back into the origional mode
[03:42] <jeenyusnoboarder> and i dont see anthing
[03:42] <[o] rkin> and then it says i have to go back to the sitye and use a registration id it gives me to obtain a license key
[03:43] <[o] rkin> it directed me to linuxant.org but I don't know where to go from there
[03:43] <YukiIkyuta> Registration ID for a .deb?
[03:43] <YukiIkyuta> Doesn't sound right.
[03:43] <HymnToLife> if I remember well, linuant drivers are not free
[03:43] <[o] rkin> is there a way for m e to find out what port my modem is on
[03:44] <[o] rkin> so I can just manually install it or something\
[03:44] <HymnToLife> try wvdialconf
[03:44] <[o] rkin> it wont let me continue unless
[03:44] <jeenyusnoboarder> guess no then? too bad
[03:44] <dooglus> jeenyusnoboarder: how did you switch from basic to advanced in synaptic?
[03:44] <[o] rkin> II get this key
[03:44] <jeenyusnoboarder> oh
[03:44] <jeenyusnoboarder> haha
[03:44] <jeenyusnoboarder> i i clicked a button
[03:44] <jeenyusnoboarder> that said "advanced mode"
[03:44] <jeenyusnoboarder> and it changed the interface
[03:44] <dooglus> jeenyusnoboarder: I'm not sure synaptic has an advanced mode. I don't see anything like that.
[03:45] <supaiku> bshumate, that seems to have worked (perhaps in conjunction with removing 192.168.0.1 as a DNS) - thanks:D
[03:45] <jeenyusnoboarder> yours may allready be in the mode im in
[03:45] <learnfromscratch> i am using ntfs in windows and reading those from linux.. will this lead to any problems ?? will my hard disk get damaged??
[03:45] <jeenyusnoboarder> is there a defaults button anywhere around here?
[03:45] <jeenyusnoboarder> or can i uninstall this and reinstall it
[03:45] <jeenyusnoboarder> i want the origional interface i had
[03:45] <YukiIkyuta> learnfromscratch, it'll be fine! ^_^
[03:45] <Siph0n> !wine
[03:45] <dooglus> jeenyusnoboarder: how has the interface changed?  what's different now?
[03:45] <jeenyusnoboarder> well before it was 2 frames
[03:46] <HymnToLife> jeenyusnoboarder > I can't find any "Advanced" button in synaptic :/
[03:46] <jeenyusnoboarder> and i could select the packages to install
[03:46] <jeenyusnoboarder> and hit apply
[03:46] <dooglus> learnfromscratch: reading ntfs in linux is perfectly safe.  writing it is more scary.
[03:46] <jeenyusnoboarder> now its 3 panes
[03:46] <dooglus> jeenyusnoboarder: oh.
[03:46] <[o] rkin> I demands full access to my modem at full speeds for no cost I already payed for it, where do I enter this registration ID?
[03:46] <jeenyusnoboarder> and when i select the package it gives me all the libs and crapola
[03:46] <n00blar> morning everyone, quick question...is there a gui based program like minicom? I mainly use minicom to configure my routers and switches and I was wondering if there's a gui based application like minicom.
[03:46] <HymnToLife> learnfromscratch > no it won't
[03:46] <YukiIkyuta> [o] rkin, demanding won't help you - we're not asking for the money here.
[03:46] <HymnToLife> but you'd better not try to write on it
[03:47] <[o] rkin> I'm not demanding anything of you
[03:47] <YukiIkyuta> [o] rkin, well, you said `I demands'.. now, let's see. What type of modem have you got?
[03:47] <jeenyusnoboarder> yes ive looked allll around and i dont see anything to switch it back
[03:47] <jeenyusnoboarder> im not even sure if its possible
[03:48] <[o] rkin> I just don't understand why I can't get this linux to detect my modem, and why I have to put in this stupid key to continue full installation of the drivers
[03:48] <[o] rkin> conexant
[03:48] <Zukero> hi
[03:48] <Zukero> hi have a problem restoring grub
[03:48] <Zukero> -h
[03:48] <jeenyusnoboarder> hey
[03:48] <[o] rkin> i already went And downloaded the correct driver, and began to install it but now it's asking me for a key
[03:48] <jeenyusnoboarder> you wana go into console
[03:49] <jeenyusnoboarder> zukero
[03:49] <Zukero> nope
[03:49] <Zukero> i am in the rescue console
[03:49] <jeenyusnoboarder> ok
[03:49] <jeenyusnoboarder> type
[03:49] <Zukero> but
[03:49] <jeenyusnoboarder> "grub"
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> oh?
[03:49] <YukiIkyuta> [o] rkin, where did you retrieve the driver?
[03:49] <[o] rkin> linuxant.org
[03:49] <jeenyusnoboarder> but what
[03:49] <Zukero>  /bin/sh: grub: command not found
[03:49] <jeenyusnoboarder> then
[03:49] <jeenyusnoboarder> grub-install /dev/hda
[03:50] <Zukero> idem
[03:50] <Zukero> in fact
[03:50] <Zukero> i didn't reinstalled windwos
[03:50] <Zukero> i installed another bootloader
[03:50] <jeenyusnoboarder> what one
[03:50] <jeenyusnoboarder> lilo?
[03:50] <Zukero> VCom system commander
[03:50] <YukiIkyuta> [o] rkin, from what I can see, it's Conexant's choice to make you pay for it. I'll search for a replacement.
[03:50] <Zukero> a graphical one
[03:50] <jeenyusnoboarder> lol k
[03:51] <jeenyusnoboarder> then you wana format the mbr
[03:51] <Zukero> and i think it borked my partition table
[03:51] <Zukero> well
[03:51] <Zukero> not really
[03:51] <Zukero> i want to keep system commander
[03:51] <Zukero> reinstall grub
[03:51] <[o] rkin> there's no way I can get around it? there aren't any other drivers that will do just as welll
[03:51] <jeenyusnoboarder> cant help you then, im not familliar with it
[03:51] <Zukero> and then reboot
[03:51] <HymnToLife> YukiIkyuta > not exactly
[03:51] <Zukero> well
[03:52] <HymnToLife> the ompany that makes the linu drivers (linuxant) is totally different from Conexant
[03:52] <Zukero> if i get rid of system commander, it's not that much of a problem
[03:52] <Zukero> format the mbr is allright
[03:52] <Zukero> i don't know how
[03:52] <YukiIkyuta> [o] rkin, unfortunately, there's no speed-unlimited driver, so I see.
[03:53] <YukiIkyuta> [o] rkin, that's a limitation of an internal WinModem.
[03:53] <Zukero> and rescue mode can't mount my partitions
[03:53] <YukiIkyuta> [o] rkin, see here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WinModemConexantHSF
[03:55] <Zukero> jeenyusnoboarder
[03:56] <jeenyusnoboarder> yea
[03:56] <Zukero> how can I formatr the mbr
[03:56] <jeenyusnoboarder> well
[03:56] <jeenyusnoboarder> grub isntall will auto do it
[03:57] <Zukero> hmm
[03:57] <jeenyusnoboarder> i would drop the gui thingy you got now
[03:57] <jeenyusnoboarder> and just use grub
[03:57] <Zukero> yeah
[03:57] <Zukero> but
[03:57] <Zukero> grub-install isn't found in my rescue shell
[03:58] <Zukero> and i can't mount my linux partition in the "enter in rescue mode" page
[03:59] <jeenyusnoboarder> well
[03:59] <HymnToLife> Zukero > try booting from a live CD
[03:59] <jeenyusnoboarder> yea boot off live cd
[03:59] <Zukero> k
[03:59] <Zukero> then ?
[04:01] <jeenyusnoboarder> grub-install /dev/hda
[04:02] <HymnToLife> Zukero > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RecoveringGrub
[04:03] <iustin> i`ve searched many pages on the internet but i couldn`t find what`s the command for mounting my partitions so all the users can see them ... plz a help!!
[04:03] <iustin> better would be automounting
[04:03] <iustin> for all users
[04:03] <HymnToLife> which filetype it is ?
[04:03] <iustin> ntfs
[04:03] <HymnToLife> filesystem*
[04:03] <iustin> i want only read
[04:03] <HymnToLife> ok
[04:04] <Eghie_Work> Woei, we have made a samba-ldap PDC setup script :D
[04:04] <HymnToLife> remember that you can't write on a ntfs partition
[04:04] <iustin> i know...
[04:04] <iustin> although there is a project
[04:04] <HymnToLife> is it in your /etc/fstab file ?
[04:04] <iustin> yes
[04:04] <iustin> i type : sudo mount -l
[04:04] <Shinjan> hi folks
[04:05] <iustin> or sudo gedit fstab
[04:05] <HymnToLife> then you certainly have "defaults" a mount options, right ?
[04:05] <HymnToLife> as*
[04:05] <iustin> yes
[04:05] <iustin> i see some default
[04:05] <HymnToLife> ok
[04:05] <iustin> let me type again
[04:05] <HymnToLife> so replace defaults with this :
[04:05] <Dr_Acemaster> I can't get my wireless connection to get an ip, how do I connect?
[04:05] <HymnToLife> ro,user,auto,gid=100,nls=utf8,umask=002
[04:06] <Amaranth> !wireless
[04:06] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[04:06] <Amaranth> hrm
[04:06] <floppyears> hi
[04:06] <Dr_Acemaster> Amaranth I had my wireless card working
[04:07] <Dr_Acemaster> but now I can't get it to connect
[04:07] <floppyears> I had to reinstalled windows in my dual boot system
[04:07] <floppyears> how do I rerun grub so that it occupies the mbr again ?
[04:07] <HymnToLife> and GRUB disappeared
[04:07] <tristan> Dr_Acemaster : do you have DHCP enabled and the connnection activated?
[04:07] <Amaranth> !grub
[04:07] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[04:07] <Dr_Acemaster> tristan how do I activate the connection?
[04:07] <hmpedersen> Hi..
[04:07] <floppyears> Amaranth: thanks
[04:07] <HymnToLife> lmao
[04:08] <HymnToLife> THAT is a useful bot
[04:08] <tristan> Dr_Acemaster : system - administration - network
[04:08] <iustin> what does this mean?: /dev/hda3       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[04:08] <iustin> in fstab
[04:08] <Amaranth> HymnToLife: You can usually just guess at something and someone has something in there for it.
[04:08] <Dr_Acemaster> tristan sorry brain fart there for a sec, yet it is active
[04:08] <hmpedersen> Can ne1 help me with my wlan card? Just spent 2 hours setting it up, and suddenly its gone from the list of adaptors..
[04:09] <HymnToLife> iustin > this is your root partition
[04:09] <HymnToLife> better not touch it
[04:09] <tristan> Dr_Acemaster : did you enable DHCP. Do you have a WEP encryption on your network and if so did you give the WEP key....?
[04:09] <iustin> aha :)) thanx
[04:09] <Dr_Acemaster> tristan yes DHCP is enabled, and I did enter the WEP key
[04:10] <iustin> HymnToLife, you told me to replace all that is in fstab with : ro,user,auto,gid=100,nls=utf8,umask=002 ??
[04:10] <HymnToLife> no, nooo
[04:10] <iustin> :)
[04:10] <HymnToLife> only the "defaults" thing for the ntfs partition you want to mount
[04:10] <tristan> Dr_acemaster : then I don't know. Is your wireless connection currently the default internet connection?
[04:11] <iustin> aah i see... at the end of the syntax
[04:11] <iustin> ok... i`ll give u an example of what i`ve understood
[04:12] <HymnToLife> iustin > the line for your ntfs partition must look like this
[04:12] <HymnToLife> /dev/hda1	/media/windows	ntfs	ro,user,auto,gid=100,nls=utf8,umask=002	0	0
[04:12] <iustin> /dev/hda1       /media/windows ro,user,auto,gid=100,nls=utf8,umask=002
[04:12] <Dr_Acemaster> tristan I have the other two connections disabled
[04:12] <iustin> :)
[04:12] <iustin> ok
[04:13] <richie> hello
[04:13] <iustin> i`ll do exactly... and thanks so much!!!
[04:13] <iustin> really!
[04:13] <tristan> Dr_Acemaster : then sorry I cannot help you. If you are sure of your wep Key and declred it as hexadecimal, I cannot help
[04:13] <richie> i have a problem with the free cds
[04:13] <HymnToLife> you're welcome :)
[04:13] <rick11> ey
[04:13] <Dr_Acemaster> tristan ok thanks for the effort :)
[04:13] <richie> ive must bill 100 dollar
[04:13] <rick11> robert?
[04:13] <richie> for the cds
[04:13] <rick11> Robert?
[04:13] <richie> this is must high
[04:13] <rick11> Richard?
[04:13] <richie> ja
[04:13] <rick11> oke
[04:13] <richie> dat ben ik
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> :)
[04:13] <rick11> ok
[04:13] <HymnToLife> 100 bucks for free ds
[04:13] <richie> jes
[04:13] <HymnToLife> that's a bit too much :p
[04:13] <richie> that must i pay
[04:14] <rick11> Me to
[04:14] <Zukero> jeenyusnoboarder : grub-install /dev/hdc gives me "Could not find device for /boot : Not found or not a block device"
[04:14] <hmpedersen> Tristan, think you could help me? Got serious problems with my wlan card..
[04:15] <richie> is there a admin here?
[04:15] <HymnToLife> Zukero > exactly the same error I got...
[04:15] <g47o> firefox 1 .6
[04:15] <g47o> :s
[04:15] <tristan> hmpedersen : well I don't know if I can because I had absolutely no trouble with mine....
[04:15] <Zukero> HymnToLife : did you solve it ?
[04:15] <richie> we can me help
[04:15] <Dr_Acemaster> tristan hehe look what I got you into
[04:15] <HymnToLife> nope
[04:16] <tristan> Dr_Acemaster : ^^'
[04:16] <HymnToLife> I worked it around by reinstalling ubuntu
[04:16] <Red-Sox> does grub work well?
[04:16] <Zukero> arg
[04:16] <Zukero> well
[04:16] <iustin> HymnToLife, when i save and close fstab and restart... everything would be ok?
[04:16] <Zukero> i was about to do so sooner or later
[04:16] <HymnToLife> the might be another way  :p
[04:16] <hmpedersen> Ubuntu accepted my windows drivers for the card,and allowed to to set it up.. then deleted driver with no reason and refuses to reinstall them :(
[04:16] <HymnToLife> iustin > no need to restart
[04:16] <Zukero> ok
[04:16] <HymnToLife> iustin > just run "sudo mount -a"
[04:17] <tristan> hmpedersen : Ubuntu did not have the correct drivers at the beginning? I didn't had to install any driver for mine
[04:17] <HymnToLife> Zukero > ask it on the forums, the might be a more clever way to do it
[04:18] <Teutonius> hola a todos
[04:18] <Teutonius> estoy intentando poner cedega en mi ubuntu
[04:18] <Zukero> yeah... i think i'll reinstall it
[04:18] <Teutonius> alguien lo a echo o sabe d q va el tema?
[04:18] <rambo3> no habla espanjol
[04:18] <HymnToLife> TecnoVM64 > english, please
[04:18] <Zukero> i'll just have to backup under windows instead of ubuntu :)
[04:18] <hmpedersen> No.. I had to install the windows drivers and the setup utility..
[04:18] <Teutonius> sorry
[04:18] <tristan> Teutonius : tienes que ir en el espanol canal : #ubuntu-es
[04:19] <tristan> Teutonius : or speak english
[04:19] <TCTCH> Is it possible to see in Nautilus : how many MB that a Folder has??
[04:20] <frogzoo> right click -> properties
[04:20] <HymnToLife> frogzoo > that doesn't work
[04:20] <XiCillin> yes it does
[04:20] <XiCillin> i just did it
[04:20] <XiCillin> look at 'contents'
[04:20] <HymnToLife> I was sue it didn't :/ I never use it anyway :p
[04:21] <TCTCH> I know frogzoo: that works...but is it possible to see the mb's near the folder name?
[04:21] <TCTCH> like OSX does
[04:21] <cliebow_> anyone have a clue why usbsticks now mount read-only??
[04:22] <mawe> hi all. having a problem with hoary, nautilus and a dual head setup (non xinerama)
[04:22] <mawe> nautilus crashes when icons get dragged from left to right screen
[04:22] <mawe> has anyone seen this problem before and knows a solution?
[04:22] <XiCillin> never seen that before
[04:22] <mawe> running gnome 2.12.1
[04:22] <iustin> HymnToLife, :(( when i click on hda5 ... it tells me like everywhen else that i do not have the rights to acces it !
[04:23] <rambo3> and hardware can handle it
[04:23] <iustin> *everytime
[04:23] <HymnToLife> what does the line in your fstab look like ?
[04:23] <sambagirl> is there any way to have vlc loop infinitely?
[04:23] <XiCillin> iustin its a windows drive sin't it?
[04:23] <iustin> one single hard
[04:24] <iustin> 2 ntfs partitions
[04:24] <iustin> and ubuntu
[04:24] <iustin> i would paste here the line
[04:24] <iustin> dev/hda3       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[04:24] <iustin> /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    ro,user,auto,gid=100,nls=utf8,umask=002 0 0
[04:24] <iustin> /dev/hda5       /media/hda5     ntfs    ro,user,auto,gid=100,nls=utf8,umask=002 0 0
[04:24] <iustin> /dev/hda6       none            swap    sw              0       0
[04:24] <iustin> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[04:25] <iustin> just like that
[04:25] <iustin> i work to see them for almost a week
[04:25] <iustin> (sorry for my english)
[04:26] <iustin> XiCillin, the lines are good?
[04:27] <HymnToLife> iustin > you gotta put Tabs between the parameters, not spaces
[04:28] <iustin> between 002 <tab> 0 <tab> 0 ??
[04:28] <frogzoo> iustin: lose the 'nls=utf8' & then try 'sudo mount -a'
[04:28] <HymnToLife> iustin > yes
[04:28] <HymnToLife> no spaces,just tabs
[04:28] <iustin> and to remove utf8?
[04:29] <HymnToLife> between everything
[04:29] <dookie> hey i'm new to linux and about to start messing with different video configurations. xorg will probably crap out on me a few times, what's the commands to backup the configuration file and and roll back to it?
[04:29] <iustin> between ro, user, auto ??
[04:29] <Zukero> HymnToLife : managed to do it
[04:29] <Zukero> entered Grub console in live session
[04:29] <HymnToLife>  /dev/hda5       /media/hda5<tab>ntfs<tab>ro,user,auto,gid=100,nls=utf8,umask=002<tab>0<tab>0
[04:29] <Zukero> called root (hd0,5)
[04:29] <frogzoo> dookie: cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.bck
[04:29] <Zukero> then setup (hd0)
[04:29] <Zukero> reboot
[04:29] <Zukero> and everything's ok
[04:31] <HymnToLife> (also a tab between /dev/hda5 and /media/hda5)
[04:31] <frogzoo> iustin: also - you might like to add 'uid=100'  - also, are you sure it's = 100, 1000 is more typical
[04:31] <dookie> that's how you back it up, cool thanks, now when i try to reboot and all i can do is use the command line how do i get back to normal, i usually do a clean install
[04:32] <HymnToLife> frogzoo > 1000 is the group id
[04:33] <SantaD1> does anyone own and run ubuntu on an inspiron 6000?
[04:33] <HymnToLife> dookie > cp /etc/X11/xorg.bak /et/X11/xorg.conf
[04:33] <frogzoo> iustin: what does 'id' return for you?
[04:33] <Kyral> SantaD1: I'm on an Inspirion 1100 if that helps any
[04:33] <SantaD1> hmmm, I dont know how different they are.
[04:33] <SantaD1> Im wondering how good the screen is
[04:34] <iustin> what should i type
[04:34] <SantaD1> because Im debating buying a dell or a computer with brightview screen
[04:34] <iustin> to retrieve my id
[04:34] <iustin> ?
[04:34] <frogzoo> iustin: just 'id'
[04:34] <iustin> ok
[04:34] <rambo3> who would buy a dell?
[04:34] <SantaD1> people.
[04:34] <iustin>   /dev/hda5       /media/hda5<tab>ntfs<tab>ro,user,auto,gid=100,nls=utf8,umask=002<tab>0<tab>0
[04:34] <SantaD1> why wouldn't they?
[04:34] <frogzoo> rambo3: stuff happens
[04:34] <iustin> sorry not that
[04:34] <Determinist> dookie, startx would launch GDM and gnome with it, if X has been configured correctly.
[04:34] <iustin> uid=1000(iustin) gid=1000(iustin) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(lpadmin),105(scanner),106(admin),1000(iustin)
[04:35] <iustin> yes ... my uid=1000
[04:35] <iustin> and gid=1000 also
[04:35] <frogzoo>   /dev/hda5       /media/hda5<tab>ntfs<tab>ro,user,auto,uid=1000,gid=1000,nls=utf8,umask=002<tab>0<tab>0
[04:35] <HymnToLife> my uid is 1000 too but the line I told you works fine
[04:35] <dj_smilee|work> Ng you about fella?
[04:35] <Dr_Ace> how does one go about changing wireless connections, ie to a different network
[04:35] <Dr_Ace> ?
[04:35] <dookie> lol thanks hymntolife i see it now, gotta get out of copy/paste mode and start learning it all
[04:36] <iustin> i found that right clicking the icon with the mount point i can select which one to read the partition
[04:36] <iustin> like doing that with click , not command line
[04:36] <frogzoo> Dr_Ace you should be able to go back into the network app & reconfigure
[04:36] <iustin> can i be root for a whole session
[04:37] <iustin> to work that?
[04:37] <rambo3> su -s
[04:37] <Kyral> rambo3: I think sudo -i is better
[04:37] <frogzoo> iustin: shouldn't be necessary just to read your files
[04:37] <iustin> but just for this session, right?
[04:37] <iustin> ok...
[04:38] <frogzoo> iustin: now try 'sudo mount -a'      and then    ' mount'
[04:38] <dookie> one more thing, when installing a new video card for windows it was a good idea to go through device manager and disable my onboard video, do i need to do something similar with linux? or can i just follow a howto driver install
[04:38] <rambo3> yeah just dont forget exit when you are done
[04:39] <Siph0n> neone have a problem in VLC that when u exit it, the sound still plays? :)
[04:39] <Kyral> or close the term
[04:39] <Kyral> Siph0n: for maybe a second or two lol
[04:39] <frogzoo> dookie: you might run into difficulties if the onboard vid gets detected by default - either disable in bios or disable its driver
[04:39] <HymnToLife> dookie > better reconfigure xorg BFORE switching your card
[04:39] <iustin> it looks like that , after mount :
[04:39] <iustin> /dev/hda3 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[04:39] <iustin> proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[04:39] <iustin> sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)
[04:39] <iustin> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[04:39] <iustin> tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[04:39] <Siph0n> Kyral, no mine plays for ever.... ne idea why? :)
[04:39] <iustin> usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[04:39] <iustin> tmpfs on /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[04:39] <HymnToLife> if your xorg.conf says 'ati' and your card is nvidia, it just won't start
[04:39] <Kyral> Siph0n: nope
[04:39] <iustin> /dev/hda1 on /media/hda1 type ntfs (rw)
[04:39] <iustin> /dev/hda5 on /media/hda5 type ntfs (rw)
[04:39] <iustin> tmpfs on /dev type tmpfs (rw,size=10M,mode=0755)
[04:40] <frogzoo> iustin: pls learn to use pastebin - people share this channel
[04:40] <iustin> ok ... sorry
[04:40] <iustin> it won`t happen again :(
[04:40] <frogzoo> iustin: it looks like your filesystems are mounted - but rw for some strange reason
[04:40] <HymnToLife> I got it
[04:41] <frogzoo> iustin: that's 'ro' as in R O - not R zero
[04:41] <HymnToLife> iustin > run "sudo -a -o remount" when you have the corret fstab
[04:42] <Roey> hi, anyonere here using Ubuntu on a Dell Poweredge system? I have an 1850 here on which I'd like to use Xen, Vserver, XFS and LVM.  i need to be able to recompile the kernel in order to add support for the SCSI/RAID controller.
[04:42] <dickmc> I am trying to install XMMS but after installing gcc I get an error that gcc cannot create executables  What do I do now??
[04:42] <dookie> ok i'll go throught the xorg before switching cards, how do i disable the onboard driver?
[04:43] <frogzoo> dookie: either in the bios, or change driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:43] <HymnToLife> dickmc > sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:43] <dickmc> Thanks
[04:43] <dookie> ok thanks
[04:43] <SantaD1> 699 for a dell inspiron 6000 Pentium M, 512 ram, cdrw/dvdr, 6 cell battery
[04:43] <SantaD1> hmmm
[04:43] <HymnToLife> dookie > or you have a wizard for this, run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:43] <SantaD1> and reports say it runs ubuntu perfectly
[04:44] <HymnToLife> too late :p
[04:46] <rambo3> did anyone install seti@home
[04:46] <iustin> sudo -a -o remount ... doesn`t woek
[04:47] <iustin> *work , maybe it is not a correct line
[04:47] <rambo3> you need umount mount
[04:47] <rambo3> or there is some app to install for remount
[04:47] <SantaD1> so no dell fans eh? hehe
[04:47] <slushpupie> iustin: you want sudo mount -o remount
[04:49] <sabmann> iustin, use sudo umount -a that will unmount all, and sudo mount -a that will mount all, I've never heard of 'remount'
[04:49] <slushpupie> remount is an option to the mount command
[04:50] <sabmann> really? ok, another thing learned
[04:50] <slushpupie> since you cant unmount root, you use remount to change the mount options for root, if you wish
[04:50] <iustin> !! aleluia!
[04:50] <ubotu> iustin: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[04:50] <rambo3> why use the easy solution , when there is complicated one
[04:50] <iustin> it worked
[04:50] <iustin> i can see
[04:51] <dj_smilee|work> how do i get rsync to move all files in / to a directory in /mnt using the -a and -x flags?
[04:52] <dj_smilee|work> i get some freaky ass errors
[04:52] <iustin> thanks to all, now i will restart just to be sure!!
[04:52] <freelove> my pppoe connection doesn't start at boot time.....any way to fix this?
[04:52] <freelove> although during pppoeconf i set it to start at boot..
[04:53] <kbrooks> I don't use a modem, yet on another user account (i dont have this problem) it gives a error while trying to connect to IRC on irssi saying it cant assign requested address
[04:53] <kbrooks> what gives?
[04:53] <zool2005> check drivers are being loaded at right time
[04:53] <kbrooks> "modem" meaning dialup modem
[04:54] <xiaogil> Is it good english to say "Apart from that..." in a letter ?
[04:56] <kbrooks> Someone?
[04:56] <kbrooks> "modem" meaning dialup modem
[04:56] <kbrooks> I don't use a modem, yet on another user account (i dont have this problem) it gives a error while trying to connect to IRC on irssi saying it cant assign requested address
[04:56] <kbrooks> "modem" meaning dialup modem
[04:56] <kbrooks> HELP ME PLEASE
[04:56] <kbrooks> THIS IS URGENT
[04:57] <Amaranth> kbrooks: Calm down..
[04:57] <Demian___> Evening
[04:57] <Amaranth> kbrooks: Does the other users have permission to access the internet? Check with the users and groups tool
[04:58] <Fujoor> guys which wm is the lightest one? xfce, fluxbox or icewm?
[04:58] <Demian___> does anyone here know how to record internet streams like realplayer and such?
[04:58] <Amaranth> Fujoor: One of those last two.
[04:59] <kbrooks> Amaranth, on the user privs tab and i dunno
[04:59] <Fujoor> so xfce is heavier than xfce? fluxbox is nicer than icewm though isnt it?
[04:59] <ali1234> Demian: you know the annoying URL list you get when you try to save a real clip? feed it to mplayer like this: mplayer -dumpstream -playlist <file.rm>
[04:59] <Tuntis> Hello people
[04:59] <Amaranth> kbrooks: The tab with all the checkboxes for things
[05:00] <Tuntis> I were just apt-getting stuff to my Ubuntu
[05:00] <Tuntis> Then...
[05:00] <kbrooks> Amaranth, What do  I have to checkmark
[05:00] <kbrooks> ?
[05:00] <Tuntis> In grub, there were two Ubuntu's!
[05:00] <kbrooks> to give internet access
[05:00] <Amaranth> kbrooks: Anything internet related on there?
[05:00] <kbrooks> Tuntis, 2 kernels
[05:00] <Amaranth> i'm not on linux right now
[05:00] <amias> i am upgrading from breezy to dapper and have hit an error with apt 'Problem parsing dependency Depends' , anyone got a fix for this ?
[05:00] <Tuntis> Doesn't sound too good.
[05:00] <kbrooks> Tuntis, 2 kernels
[05:00] <Amaranth> Tuntis: It's in case the new kernel is broken.
[05:00] <kbrooks> both are installed
[05:00] <Amaranth> Tuntis: So you can switch back to the old one.
[05:01] <Tuntis> when did I make a new kernel...
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> Tuntis,   trivial - dont worry about it..
[05:01] <erUSUL> kbrooks, dial-up?
[05:01] <jpfarias> hi!
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> Tuntis,  the updates installed a new one.
[05:01] <kbrooks> Tuntis, you installed a new kernel
[05:01] <Tuntis> oh
[05:01] <kbrooks> erUSUL, i dont use it
[05:01] <jpfarias> I've setup the vpn stuff on a ubuntu machine
[05:01] <jpfarias> but when the user connects to it, the default gateway is set to the ip it receives
[05:01] <jpfarias> and not the default gateway of the server
[05:02] <jpfarias> how do I configure it to get the correct default gateway?
[05:02] <Dartan> Does anyone know why my USB drive wouldn't show up in lsusb or in dmesg when I connect it, yet other devices do? (and the USB drive does work on other computers and before I switched to Breezy)
[05:02] <kbrooks> erUSUL, on cable
[05:03] <Tuntis> So the new updates made a new kernel?
[05:03] <ali1234> Dartan: is it USB 1.x or USB 2.0?
[05:03] <ali1234> and what about your hub?
[05:03] <Dartan> 1.x, and no hub, right into the computer
[05:03] <ali1234> okay, but the computer, it is 1.x or 2.0?
[05:04] <Dartan> computer is 1.x
[05:05] <Syruss> anyone know how I can make skype use alsa (or change it's audio settings), it's blocking up my soundcard
[05:05] <ali1234> i ask because, i have a usb 2.0 card, and if i plug usb 2.0 devices into it, they dont work. but if i plug usb 1.0 devices in, they work, and if i put in a (1.0) hub between the usb 2 device and the card, that works also.
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> Syruss,  theres a ubuntu skype wiki page.. may want to check there.
[05:05] <Syruss> ali1234: sounds like you don't have the right module loaded
[05:05] <Syruss> there's ehci, ohci and uhci modules.
[05:05] <ali1234> Syruss: I have all three usb modules loaded :)
[05:06] <Syruss> hrmm
[05:06] <amias> anyone had 'Error occurred while processing libgd2-Joxpm (NewVersion1)'
[05:06] <Syruss> use dmesg to see what's going on
[05:06] <amias> its borked my apt
[05:06] <Dartan> I'll have to check to see if I have those loaded
[05:06] <Syruss> dmesg | grep -i usb
[05:06] <ali1234> Syruss: to make skype use alsa, just kill esd or arts if they are running. then it will automatically fall back. look at the console output
[05:07] <Syruss> ta
[05:07] <Dartan> when I do that nothing shows up...so, not loading any usb modules??
[05:07] <Dartan> but my usb joystick works...weird
[05:08] <Syruss> ali1234: I don't have esd or arts loaded.
[05:09] <erUSUL> Dartan, do a sudo tail -n 100 /var/log/messages and plug the drive see what's showing up in the log
[05:10] <ali1234> Syruss: so what is skype using instead of alsa then?
[05:10] <erUSUL> Syruss, if skype uses alsa it will block the device while playing sounds
[05:10] <hussam> is this a known bug? OO.o 1.9.129 sometims crashes when I save a .doc file after inserting an image.
[05:10] <Dartan> well, at work now, so can't plug it in (ssh'd into it at the moment)
[05:11] <skeld> my HD made an interesting noise and my computer locked.  It's working again after a hard reboot, is there any possibility that im NOT screwed?
[05:12] <Ng> skeld: you might want to consider backing up important data and installing smartmontools - it can display the SMART information from the drive
[05:13] <erUSUL> skeld, better check the fs with fsck and make buckups just in case...
[05:13] <skeld> ok.  suggestion on backup utilities?  i dont have much that needs to be saved.
[05:13] <northie> you on another drive now, skeld?
[05:13] <amias> skeld: maybe , but back it up before you do anything else
[05:13] <Rawplayer> MI
[05:14] <northie> I'm trying to figure out why my valknut won't save its settings
[05:14] <northie> where's the config at?
[05:15] <erUSUL> skeld, just burn a cd-r (or dvd)
[05:15] <MWettendorff> What does this means?????  (ERROR 1130: Host 'localhost.localdomain' is not allowed to connect to this MySQL server)
[05:16] <Ng> or use the archive manager to make a tarball or rsync the files to another machine - depends how much data you're talking about and what means of storing it you have available
[05:16] <zandaa> seveas: I still couldn't get xmoto installed, but that's ok
[05:17] <erUSUL> MWettendorff, i think that the error msg is clear enough there must be a list of allowed servers for mysql and localhos.localdomain is no there
[05:18] <Necrocide> I got a question, where do I place my downloaded fonts, so I can use them in the "Fonts" application to assign what fonts should be used to eg. desktop?
[05:18] <testing> Monteiro? Telmo?
[05:18] <zandaa> hey all, I think Gaim is a little weird
[05:18] <Dr_Ace> is there a place to add advanced settings for wireless networks, ie channel, mode, etc?
[05:18] <MWettendorff> erUSUL: crist.. it worked fine last night.. this is realy getting on my nerve..
[05:18] <Rubin> dr_ace: in the file /etc/network/interfaces
[05:19] <Rubin> dr_ace: though its not very well documented
[05:19] <Dr_Acemaster> Rubin will check that out
[05:19] <Millenniumgroup> Rubin...from Afternet?
[05:19] <Dr_Acemaster> Rubin do you know if that's what wifi radar uses?
[05:19] <Rubin> Dr_Acemaster: check out the command 'iwconfig'
[05:19] <erUSUL> MWettendorff, i do not know much mysql so i can not help you further
[05:19] <Rubin> Dr_Acemaster: most of those same config options can be used in that file i think
[05:19] <frogzoo> Dr_Acemaster: some people use gtkwifi for this - but it doesn't integrate to the task bar when I tried it
[05:19] <obiyoda> I recently installed ubuntu onto a toshiba laptop. the trouble is that it is not working with my onboard NIC. It identified the card but will not connect to anything what can I do?
[05:19] <Rubin> Millenniumgroup: yeah, who are you? :)
[05:20] <Ng> Necrocide: open a file manager window, then pick Location from the Go menu and type fonts:// - drag the fonts in there
[05:20] <Dr_Acemaster> Rubin cause this connection was working fine a few days, but now it can't pull ip from router
[05:20] <erUSUL> Necrocide, in ~/.fonts/
[05:20] <Millenniumgroup> hi :) a small hint xb-sky ;)
[05:20] <Ng> Necrocide: or you can make a .fonts directory in your home and put them there
[05:20] <Necrocide> Meeep! :)
[05:20] <Necrocide> I check
[05:20] <Rubin> Dr_Acemaster: ndiswrapper?
[05:20] <Ng> Necrocide: you may not have permission to put them in fonts://
[05:20] <skeld> oookay, im backed up.
[05:20] <Rubin> Millenniumgroup: haha thats funny. howdy :)
[05:20] <Dr_Acemaster> Rubin ? not sure what you mean
[05:20] <Millenniumgroup> Good Evening, small world eh ;)
[05:20] <frogzoo> skeld: now install smartmontools & run a short disk test
[05:21] <Necrocide> Ng, can I root it there?
[05:21] <Rubin> Dr_Acemaster: oh, then nevermind. heh
[05:21] <Dr_Acemaster> Rubin I didn't do anything special to get it to work the first time, worked fine right after install
[05:21] <Dr_Acemaster> but all of sudden quit
[05:21] <Rubin> Dr_Acemaster: you tried taking it down and up again?
[05:21] <Dr_Acemaster> and can't figure it out
[05:21] <Rubin> iv had that problem myself often
[05:21] <Dr_Acemaster> Rubin you mean deactivating?
[05:21] <Dr_Acemaster> yes I have
[05:21] <Rubin> sometimes i even have to unload the module and load it again
[05:21] <Ng> Necrocide: running nautilus as root is not usually a good idea - do you need them to be available to other local users? if not then ~/.fonts/ will be fine
[05:21] <MWettendorff> erUSUL: That is oki.. i just have to figure out a way to get past that... maybe a reinstall of the hole ubuntu will do the trick.. it wont be the first time this n00b has to do that...
[05:21] <Dr_Acemaster> rebooting help after deactivation?
[05:21] <Rubin> yes, but not neceesary
[05:22] <skeld> frogzoo: okay, thanks.
[05:22] <Rubin> just ifdown wlan0; rmmod (whatever your wireless driver module is called)
[05:22] <Necrocide> Ng, will that enable them in the fonts application so I can assign them to eg. my desktop?
[05:22] <Dr_Acemaster> Rubin I didn't think so, but I've tried everything it seems
[05:22] <Dr_Acemaster> how do you unload the module?
[05:22] <Rubin> rmmod modulename
[05:22] <Rubin> but you have to stop using it first (ifdown wlan0)
[05:22] <erUSUL> MWettendorff, a reinstall of mysql will be enough i think (after remove --purge)
[05:23] <Rubin> sorry im a commandline guy :)
[05:23] <Dr_Acemaster> so module name could be ath0?
[05:23] <Ng> Necrocide: should do :)
[05:23] <Rubin> no thats interface name (ifdown ath0)
[05:23] <Dr_Acemaster> Rubin I used to be command line, but haven't used 'em in ages
[05:23] <Rubin> lsmod to see a list of modules
[05:23] <ubun-newbie> how do i install a program when i do ls it shows ls
[05:23] <ubun-newbie> ChangeLog  COPYING  doc  INSTALL  patches  README  samples
[05:23] <Ng> read INSTALL
[05:24] <Rubin> ubun-newbie: less INSTALL
[05:24] <Necrocide> Ng, Hmm, I placed em there, they are marked with a lock. And the premission is set to my user. But they don't appear in the Fonts application?
[05:24] <Millenniumgroup> >>> ./
[05:24] <Dr_Acemaster> Rubin what might the name of my module be?
[05:24] <Rubin> Dr_Acemaster: i dunno.. type lsmod and figure it out :/
[05:24] <Dr_Acemaster> I did, and I get a list of about 50 things
[05:24] <Rubin> yeah
[05:25] <Rubin> what kinda card is it?
[05:25] <ubun-newbie> IT DID NOT INSTALL
[05:25] <ubun-newbie> it opened a window
[05:25] <zandaa> hm...
[05:25] <Rubin> ubun-newbie: read
[05:25] <zandaa> anyone know dosbox?
[05:25] <Dr_Acemaster> dlink airplusG
[05:25] <Millenniumgroup> type ./install.pl or what ever the extension
[05:25] <Dr_Acemaster> dwl-g510
[05:25] <Millenniumgroup> is it a debian package?
[05:25] <erUSUL> ubun-newbie, what are you trying to install?
[05:26] <Urthmover> how do I add more resolutions inside "Change Resolution"?
[05:26] <zandaa> Milleniumgroup, was that question for me?
[05:26] <Millenniumgroup> zandaa, nah ubuntu-newbie
[05:26] <Urthmover> "Screen Resolution" I mean
[05:26] <erUSUL> !tell Urthmover about fixres
[05:26] <zandaa> ah ok
[05:26] <Ng> Necrocide: hmm, maybe https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto can help :)
[05:26] <zandaa> !dosbox
[05:26] <ubotu> zandaa: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[05:26] <Millenniumgroup> Urthmover, edit your xorg.conf or start the x serer
[05:26] <Dr_Acemaster> Rubin wlan?
[05:26] <zandaa> !mp3
[05:26] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:26] <Urthmover> ok I'll look for xorg.conf
[05:26] <Millenniumgroup> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (easiest)
[05:26] <Rubin> Dr_Acemaster: theres a module called wlan? that sounds promising
[05:27] <Necrocide> I check Ng, thanks
[05:27] <Millenniumgroup> try that first Urthmover
[05:27] <Dr_Acemaster> Rubin yup
[05:27] <Rubin> Dr_Acemaster: try that
[05:27] <Dr_Acemaster> Rubin so I remove that, and then reload it?
[05:27] <Rubin> Dr_Acemaster: rmmod wlan; modprobe wlan
[05:27] <Dr_Acemaster> how do I reload it?
[05:27] <Rubin> Dr_Acemaster: then ifup ath0
[05:27] <Dr_Acemaster> k
[05:27] <Rubin> modprobe loads it
[05:28] <Rubin> one time doing this, my system locked up.. so save any open files :)
[05:28] <skeld> well, my drive passed the "SMART overall health test" thing...
[05:28] <sulli> I just installed breezy and my wireless card isn't working, can anyone please give me some tips on trying to get it to work
[05:28] <Dermot> Hello all!
[05:28] <Rubin> sulli: what kind?
[05:28] <zandaa> is Ubuntu debian-compatible?
[05:28] <Rubin> zandaa: yes and no
[05:28] <zandaa> rubin, what do you mean by that?
[05:28] <erUSUL> !tell sulli about wifi
[05:29] <Ng> zandaa: that it's derived from debian, but you should be careful about trying to install debian packages ;)
[05:29] <sulli> it is integrated in the emachines laptop, I am pretty sure its broadcom
[05:29] <Urthmover> with vmware do I need to use framebuffer?
[05:29] <Dermot> Anyone know what package i need to apply in badger to get rpm support?
[05:29] <Millenniumgroup> Dermot - alien
[05:29] <Rubin> zandaa: ubuntu is 'based' on debian. so it uses apt, and .deb packages.. but it has newer versions of most things than debian. so some simple packages work, but most that have dependancies wont work
[05:29] <zandaa> Ng, so do you know if DOSbox (dos emulator) will work on Ubuntu?
[05:29] <Dermot> Millenniumgroup, thank you
[05:29] <erUSUL> sulli, read what ubotu told you
[05:29] <Ng> zandaa: ubuntu includes dosbox
[05:29] <erUSUL> Dermot, alien
[05:30] <snif96ter> Hey wei jemand wie aMule besser ldt?
[05:30] <Ng> zandaa: it's in universe
[05:30] <Dr_Acemaster> Rubin 'rmmod wlan' returns 'ERROR: Modue wlan is in use by wlan_wep,ath_pci,ath_rate_sample
[05:30] <Millenniumgroup> apt-get alien
[05:30] <Millenniumgroup> np
[05:30] <erUSUL> !de
[05:30] <ubotu> it has been said that de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[05:30] <Millenniumgroup> RPM sucks :D
[05:30] <Rubin> zandaa: there are plenty of dos emulators in ubuntu
[05:30] <zandaa> Ng, really??? I can download it from repository?? cool, gonna do that right now
[05:30] <Rubin> Dr_Acemaster: ahh. try rmmod ath_pci
[05:30] <Ng> zandaa: if you enable the universe repository, yes :)
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> dosbox is amazing how wellit works
[05:30] <erUSUL> !tell snif96ter about de
[05:30] <zandaa> Ng, I've enabled that yesterday
[05:30] <snif96ter> Hey hab heute Edubuntu geladen voll cooles Programm.
[05:30] <Rubin> Dr_Willis: and theres no ubuntu package for it?
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> Rubin,  there was last i looked
[05:31] <Rubin> ahh. k
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> !info dosbox
[05:31] <ubotu> dosbox: (A x86 emulator with Tandy/Herc/CGA/EGA/VGA graphics, sound and DOS), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.63-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 368 kB, Installed size: 1000 kB
[05:31] <Ng> I just said it's in universe
[05:31] <Dr_Acemaster> Rubin ok that worked, and reloaded w/ modprobe ath_pci
[05:32] <Dr_Acemaster> now what
[05:32] <Rubin> Dr_Acemaster: ifup ath0
[05:32] <Dermot> Millenniumgroup, probally does but i just wanted to try this gyach enhanced :)
[05:32] <Dr_Acemaster> that unloaded and reloaded the module?
[05:32] <lorion> anyone have ubuntu connected to a HDTV?
[05:32] <Rubin> Dr_Acemaster: or use the gui to try and connect again
[05:32] <Dr_Acemaster> and the module is what ath0 uses?
[05:32] <Rubin> Dr_Acemaster: yeah. exactly
[05:32] <zandaa> !Dr_Willis, you run dosbox too on Ubuntu??? if so how can I correctly access my NTFS drive from it?
[05:32] <Millenniumgroup> Dermot, k :P
[05:32] <Dr_Acemaster> Rubin ok, tryin to understand how this works, teach a man to fish... :)
[05:32] <Rubin> Dr_Acemaster: yep hehe
[05:33] <Rubin> Dr_Acemaster: basically, at least for me, the wifi drivers have bugs because the mean wifi manuf wont tell anyone how to make good drivers. so they break and get into a bad state.. reloading the module sometimes fixes it..
[05:33] <Rubin> Dr_Acemaster: course, could be something else
[05:34] <Dr_Acemaster> Rubin ifup ath0 returns There is already a pid file /var/run/dhclient.ath0.pid with pid 0
[05:34] <erUSUL> Dr_Acemaster, delete the file
[05:34] <Dr_Acemaster> then a a few unknown hardware address errors
[05:34] <Rubin> Dr_Acemaster: hmm. when you ran ifdown, you did it as sudo right?
[05:35] <erUSUL> Dr_Acemaster, sudo rm /var/run/dhclient.ath0.pid and try again
[05:35] <Rubin> erUSUL: doesnt that mean that dhclient is still running tho?
[05:35] <Dr_Acemaster> 'sudo ifup ath0' returns ifup: interface ath0 already configured
[05:35] <Rubin> Dr_Acemaster: sudo ifdown ath0
[05:36] <Rubin> then ifup
[05:36] <Rubin> does it still say it?
[05:36] <erUSUL> Rubin, or it shut down uncleanly and left the lock behaind
[05:36] <Dr_Acemaster> ok after 'sudo ifdown ath0' and then 'ifup ath0' I get teh same error as before
[05:37] <Dr_Acemaster> that was sudo the second time as well btw
[05:37] <Rubin> Dr_Acemaster: then ifdown it again, and follow erUSUL's advise
[05:37] <skeld> I'm using reiserfs and fsck won't run.
[05:38] <erUSUL> skeld, fsck.reiserfs??
[05:38] <pawdro> how to remove grup and install lilo instead?
[05:38] <pawdro> grub
[05:38] <Rubin> pawdro: you can do it in the package manager
[05:38] <ma_> e
[05:39] <jono> hi all
[05:39] <Rubin> pawdro: but be carefull because if theres a problem it wont boot
[05:39] <tritium> hi jono
[05:39] <skeld> erUSUL: yeah, fsck called fsck.reiserfs automatically.  it said it can't run because its mounted with write permissions.  i ran fsck as root.
[05:39] <erUSUL> pawdro, apt-get remove grub && apt-get install lilo
[05:39] <Ng> is that jo no bacon? ;)
[05:39] <Dr_Acemaster> pawdro why do you want lilo instead of grub?
[05:39] <pawdro> thx
[05:39] <Dr_Acemaster> Rubin ok ifdown ath0, then rm that file
[05:39] <VincentMX> does gdm always listen at the port for XDMCP?
[05:39] <tritium> VincentMX, only if you set it up to do so
[05:39] <Rubin> Dr_Acemaster: yep
[05:39] <Ng> VincentMX: sudo gdmsetup :)
[05:39] <VincentMX> ok
[05:39] <erUSUL> VincentMX, depends on conf
[05:40] <pawdro> Dr_Acemaster: because i dont know how to start linux on new compiled kernel 2.6
[05:40] <Dr_Acemaster> Rubin so what does rm that file do?
[05:40] <pawdro> with lilo i have some exp
[05:40] <Rubin> pawdro:  /boot/grub/menu.1st
[05:40] <Rubin> pawdro: grub is easier than lilo
[05:40] <Urthmover> how do I enable the Windows key to do stuff?
[05:40] <erUSUL> Dr_Acemaster, delete the file
[05:40] <tritium> pawdro, if you use kernel-package to build a .deb kernel package, it is automatically setup for you
[05:40] <Urthmover> like windows+R?
[05:40] <Dr_Acemaster> erUSUL ok did
[05:40] <Dr_Acemaster> erUSUL now what
[05:40] <zandaa> OMG!!!
[05:40] <pawdro> tritium: i compiled on my own
[05:40] <Urthmover> or making a shortcut to open a console window
[05:40] <Necrocide> I got a wicked question! How do I add a trashcan on the desktop that changes icon when it's full and when its emtpy, and works with right click "Emtpy trash"? Hehe...
[05:40] <pawdro> and ive got a problem
[05:40] <Rubin> pawdro: its better to learn the 'ubuntu/debian way'
[05:41] <erUSUL> Dr_Acemaster, now try again sudo ifup ath0
[05:41] <skeld> sorry guys, gotta run.
[05:41] <tritium> pawdro, you can compile your own with kernel-package too
[05:41] <pawdro> Rubin: but ordinary way is suitable to all unix'es
[05:41] <tritium> that's the whole idea
[05:41] <pawdro> and i wont have a problem in future
[05:42] <Dr_Acemaster> erUSUL 'sudo ifup ath0' returns Internet Systems.... then sit0: unknown h/w address...
[05:42] <Rubin> pawdro: ubuntu uses a package system to keep your system orderly. if you work within it, you have good results and will like ubuntu. if you do not, you will have lots of chaos and not like ubuntu, always fighting it like now
[05:42] <Dr_Acemaster> DHCPDISCOVER on ath0 to 255... interval 8....
[05:42] <pawdro> ok ill do ubuntu way
[05:42] <pawdro> ;] 
[05:42] <Dr_Acemaster> No DHCPOFFERS received
[05:42] <erUSUL> Dr_Acemaster, does ath0 show up in ifconfig -a?
[05:42] <pawdro> to find out if i make mistakes compiling normally
[05:42] <tritium> !kernel
[05:43] <Rubin> pawdro: i dont have a good guide handy, maybe someone else does
[05:43] <Dr_Acemaster> erUSUL yes
[05:43] <tritium> pawdro, there is a good wiki page you can follow.  search wiki.ubuntu.com for "kernel"
[05:43] <pawdro> wiki ive got
[05:43] <Dermot> can googlemail be collected via thunderbird?
[05:43] <pawdro> ive got a question
[05:43] <DrBair> Dermot:  yes
[05:43] <Rubin> Dermot: yes
[05:43] <VincentMX> yes it works!
[05:43] <coz> hello all
[05:43] <DrBair> Dermot:  theres an option you need to set in gmail to allow pop3 access
[05:43] <VincentMX> \o/
[05:43] <erUSUL> Dr_Acemaster, are you sure that your router works fine? it seems that the problem is in the router
[05:43] <Dermot> Thanks!
[05:44] <pawdro> what to do if i want to have the latest kernel, and i cant find it in apt-cache search
[05:44] <pawdro> ?
[05:44] <trappist> build your own
[05:44] <Dr_Acemaster> erUSUL that was my thinking, however, I can connect fine in windows
[05:44] <Dermot> DrBair, yes have that set ok
[05:44] <Rubin> pawdro: theres a patch that makes any kernel acceptable
[05:44] <Dr_Acemaster> and worked fine for few days with this same config
[05:44] <Dr_Acemaster> the only thing I did was install wifi radar
[05:44] <Ng> pawdro: why do you want the latest? there's not much difference for most people
[05:44] <Dr_Acemaster> and I think I was trying to change b/w two wireless connections
[05:44] <Dr_Acemaster> don't recall exactly
[05:44] <hmpedersen> I am finally running wireless :)
[05:45] <erUSUL> Dr_Acemaster, i think that i can not help you further sorry
[05:45] <chrisx1> hey
[05:45] <chrisx1> !upgrade
[05:45] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[05:45] <Dr_Acemaster> erUSUL: damn, well thanks for the help
[05:45] <Rubin> pawdro: the ones in apt are pre-patched, but it is possible to patch a newer one. though its nice to use one others have tested for you
[05:45] <hmpedersen> But my card will uninstall if i remove the driver cd :( (even though drivers are copied to hdd before install)
[05:45] <pawdro> i want to  have compiled kernel on my own, and the latest can be
[05:46] <VincentMX> is it possible to xdmcp remote login from a windows computer?
[05:46] <Rubin> pawdro: apt-cache search linux-source-2.6
[05:46] <GranMaestro> Hi there, this one is real easy for he who knows... how do I check if one necessary module is available and only needs o be loaded into the kernel?
[05:46] <Dermot> breezy for me is a major update on warthog, excellent work if i do say so myself! :)
[05:46] <Rubin> pawdro: just get the best version thats in there. it installs it in /usr/src
[05:47] <Rubin> pawdro: the ubuntu way is just a wrapper for the normal way.. except it builds a .deb of the kernel image instad of just haphazardly installing it
[05:47] <tritium> pawdro, you can use any kernel source package you want with kernel-package, even that latest .tar.gz off of kernel.org
[05:47] <pawdro> apt-cache search kernel will search for me?
[05:47] <Rubin> pawdro: i think the are 'linux-source' in ubuntu
[05:47] <Dermot> hey jgrieves :)
[05:47] <gimmulF> !ssh
[05:47] <ubotu> I heard ssh is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SSHHowto
[05:47] <tritium> correct, Rubin
[05:47] <kalauz> hi ppl! how can i make java 1.5 work with firefox? i read the forums but i cannot find the package in the universe repository... :( please help me!
[05:47] <jgrieves> Dermot greetings :)
[05:47] <HymnToLife> !java
[05:47] <chrisx1> !repos
[05:48] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[05:48] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[05:48] <hussam> Can somebody help? Is this a known bug? OO.o 1.9.129 sometims crashes when I save a .doc file after inserting an image into the document.
[05:49] <pawdro> ive made apt-cache search, and i cant find any latest that 2.6.12, so can i download from kernel.org, and make ubuntu way compiling
[05:49] <pawdro> ?
[05:49] <Rubin> pawdro: yeah
[05:49] <Rubin> pawdro: but, unless you actually know what changed and need it, dont bother
[05:49] <Jowi> hello all
[05:49] <Rubin> pawdro: the ones in apt have bug fixes back-ported so they arnt as old as they look
[05:49] <tritium> pawdro, you didn't search correctly, then
[05:50] <tritium> !info linux-source-2.6.12
[05:50] <ubotu> linux-source-2.6.12: (Linux kernel source for version 2.6.12 with Ubuntu patches), section devel, is optional. Version: 2.6.12-10.24 (breezy), Packaged size: 39499 kB, Installed size: 39632 kB
[05:50] <pawdro> tritium: apt-cache search linux-source
[05:50] <myke> hey
[05:50] <Rubin> pawdro: are you running breezy or warty?
[05:50] <pawdro> breezy
[05:50] <Jowi> you can limit your search results for apt-cache search if you add --names-only
[05:51] <Rubin> its there
[05:51] <myke> is there a way to get the files from the ubuntu server so if i format i can load the files with out the inet
[05:51] <myke> ?
[05:51] <Rubin> myke: you mean the install files?
[05:52] <Jowi> myke: apt-get --help will give you the option to download if you have a closer look
[05:52] <pawdro> Rubin: i can only see 2.6.12 kernel but none 2.6.14, any suggestions? or what i dont understand
[05:52] <myke> ok
[05:52] <myke> cool
[05:52] <psusi> can someone remind me how to make a bash for loop to execute a command on foo*?
[05:52] <Rubin> pawdro: whats in .14 that .12 doesnt have?
[05:52] <myke> like what about useing synaptic?
[05:52] <Rubin> pawdro: use .12. its a good kernel. nothing wrong with it
[05:53] <obsvuugj> anyone knows a good IDE for programming C/C++ ? (but not vim)
[05:53] <myke> the option that says download and cache fileS?
[05:53] <psusi> obsvuugj: emacs
[05:53] <pawdro> ok ill do it
[05:53] <boyo-mat1> psusi: for i in `ls | grep foo'; do command $i; done    ? or something like that
[05:54] <Jowi> myke: -d i guess.
[05:54] <max> How can I change the keyboard language?
[05:55] <pawdro> so another question, why there isnt .14 kernel?
[05:55] <guiss> hi, i have a network at the office, some part of it is ethernet, some other part is wireless. I have set up 1 windows machine and 2 ubuntus in the wireless. Every machine can ping each other but the 2 ubuntus in the wireless. Any idea? I am using madwifi driver on 3com ethernet
[05:55] <Jowi> myke: haven't looked at synaptic :)
[05:55] <bungle> hi
[05:55] <chrisx1> 692 upgraded, 313 newly installed, 29 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:55] <chrisx1> Need to get 529MB of archives.
[05:55] <chrisx1> After unpacking 456MB of additional disk space will be used.
[05:55] <chrisx1> lolz!
[05:55] <myke> dang
[05:55] <chrisx1> a long while to wait!
[05:56] <bungle> whats that to install chrisx1
[05:56] <Jowi> chrisx1: you're on broadband? make sure you use a local mirror so you don't have to download from accross the atlantic
[05:57] <chrisx1> i dunno how to change mirrors
[05:57] <Jowi> chrisx1: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list. mirrors here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[05:57] <Jowi> chrisx1: that can practically double your download speed
[05:58] <chrisx1> i can cancel the downloads now?
[05:58] <chrisx1> or not?
[05:58] <Jowi> chrisx1: you can cancel if you haven't already started the downloads
[05:58] <chrisx1> i have started
[05:59] <spdl_afk> bbl
[05:59] <chrisx1> 177kB/s 41m7s
[05:59] <spdl> quit
[05:59] <max> How can I change the keyboard language?
[05:59] <Jowi> chrisx1: you *can* cancel with ctrl-c but it's up to you if you wish to take the chance.
[05:59] <Millenniumgroup> the first guy who makes a normal newsgroup client for linux, will get rich :D
[05:59] <chrisx1> its k
[05:59] <pawdro> chrisx1: where u have such transfer?
[05:59] <Millenniumgroup> knzb = horrible buggy, pan = no comment, klibidio = buggy but ok
[05:59] <chrisx1> its up to 226kb/s
[05:59] <chrisx1> pawdro, what u mean?
[06:00] <pawdro> i mean: your house, university, work etc
[06:00] <pawdro> what bandwitch do you have
[06:00] <chrisx1> home, 2mb
[06:00] <pawdro> ok
[06:00] <chrisx1> i have "limit" of 2gb a day but its no effect atm
[06:00] <Dermot> anyone recommend a good ftp server for breezy or package already available?
[06:00] <chrisx1> soon will be 10mb
[06:01] <chrisx1> ftpd i think
[06:01] <loufoque> quelqu'un utilise gwenview ici ?
[06:01] <pawdro> chrisx1: what country?;] 
[06:01] <chrisx1> pawdro, UK
[06:01] <Jowi> Dermot: proftpd
[06:01] <Dermot> Jowi, thanks :)
[06:01] <Goldfish> 10mb? My cable modem gets up to 600K. Some pipe!
[06:01] <boyo-mat1> Dermot: I like vsftpd
[06:02] <Jowi> not me loufoque, mais si tu veux parle francaise, va a #ubuntu-fr
[06:02] <chrisx1> Davey, where u from?
[06:02] <Davey> chrisx1: I live in FL
[06:02] <chrisx1> kool
[06:02] <loufoque> Jowi: I knew there was something weird with everyone speaking english
[06:02] <Millenniumgroup> 10mb here as well
[06:02] <chrisx1> well atm in uk i think max home speed is 8mb
[06:03] <loufoque> does anyone use gwenview ? I'm having a problem, it can't see zip files
[06:03] <loufoque> according to the official home page of gwenview it should be able to
[06:03] <Davey> $10 more for 10Mbit than 5Mbit is currently costing us :)
[06:03] <chrisx1> ntl are soon to do speeds of 50 mb(so they say)
[06:03] <Millenniumgroup> hopefully 100mb soon :)
[06:03] <Dermot> im on a wireless 1mb down , 256 up
[06:03] <Jowi> loufoque: yeah, ubuntu's got a few different language groups and the french is ok. #ubuntu-fr if you want support in french, otherwise you just stay here :)
[06:03] <Dermot> but changing to 2mb down , 2mb up soon
[06:03] <Davey> chrisx1, it was 2Mbit when I left the UK ;)
[06:03] <Millenniumgroup> chrisx1, maybe but uk ISP's are way to greedy
[06:03] <Millenniumgroup> for their own good
[06:03] <chrisx1> they cahrge 25 for 2mb
[06:03] <Davey> chrisx1: that people were selling anyhow, the ADSL tecnology had an 8Mbit limit
[06:04] <chrisx1> thats like $50 US
[06:04] <Dermot> Millenniumgroup, you think uk is bad, you should see ours in ireland.
[06:04] <pawdro> i hava academic net ;p
[06:04] <Millenniumgroup> Dermot. sorry to hear that m8 :/
[06:04] <pawdro> university
[06:04] <Davey> chrisx1, I'm British, only been here like 20 months :)
[06:04] <Millenniumgroup> when I get 100mb I'll dedicate 10mb to your house :D
[06:04] <Dermot> i pay 50 euro a month for 1mb
[06:04] <chrisx1> the fact ntl disconnect/drop like every otherday sucks
[06:04] <Millenniumgroup> Dermot i pay 50 euro a month for 1mb :O :O
[06:04] <Davey> I found Freeserve was pretty good
[06:04] <Dermot> thats about 70 us dollars
[06:05] <Jowi> no way. that's so expensive
[06:05] <Dermot> up to two years ago we had no broadband options at all
[06:05] <Dermot> all dialup or real expensive isdn packages
[06:05] <chrisx1> btw if i like stress or go mad its due to death of my father, R.I.P(just to let ya Know)
[06:06] <Millenniumgroup> I pay around 25  for 10mb... and that's normally a bit high
[06:06] <chrisx1> i tend to stress a lot
[06:06] <Davey> we pay like $45/month for 5Mbit, $55/month for 10Mbit
[06:06] <Jowi> dsl2 16MB for 30 euro here. are you up in the mountains Dermot?
[06:06] <marcooo> hello is this the right place to ask about configuring apt on ubuntu?
[06:06] <Jowi> marcooo: yep
[06:06] <Dermot> Jowi, in northeast ireland along northern border, not in any mountains
[06:06] <marcooo> ah ok :)
[06:06] <chrisx1> apparently ntl 10mb is goin to be 35 - 40
[06:06] <Ivan> how do i check how much memory fluxbox is using?
[06:07] <Dermot> people about 20 mins down the road in northern ireland have bigger connections, ntl, bt etc..
[06:07] <_jason> Ivan, use the top command
[06:07] <marcooo> i want to use my local repositories rather than the ones ubuntu configured for me
[06:07] <Ivan> _jason but can i see the totam memory usage
[06:07] <Ivan> or do i have to sum it up myself
[06:07] <marcooo> so in sources.list i replaced every instance of the old repo's url with my local one but it still says it cant find them
[06:07] <Jowi> Dermot: lived in Dublin for awhile, couldn't affort any connection in Ireland. decided i had enough internet at work :)
[06:07] <chrisx1>  227kB/s 23m53s
[06:07] <Dermot> Jowi, theres a reason ireland is one of the most expensive countries in europe :)
[06:08] <_jason> Ivan, press the letter 'f', after in top
[06:08] <Jowi> marcooo: you need to run "sudo apt-get update" to update your changes
[06:08] <Dermot> you know its more expensive to live in dublin then new york city?
[06:08] <marcooo> yeah did that too
[06:08] <marcooo> or apt-get update as superuser
[06:08] <marcooo> i think thats the same, right?
[06:08] <Jowi> Dermot: yeah, came after the euro changeover. the beer went up 30%
[06:08] <opnsrc> HOw do I get a shell or something that I can type in fsck and scandisk my HD
[06:09] <opnsrc> Like if there is an error I can do it but how else can I do it manually?
[06:09] <Jowi> marcooo: correct. maybe your mirrors are bad. have a look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[06:09] <Dermot> Jowi, everything went up, all prices rounded off to the euro...then it went downhill from there
[06:09] <marcooo> ok thanks will be back soon :)
[06:09] <Millenniumgroup> opnsrc, eh? you're using BASH it supports fsck
[06:09] <Jowi> Dermot: yep, still made nice money though. only payed 20% tax so it was ok anyway :-D
[06:09] <Dermot> Jowi, if i wanted a 4mb connection here...it would cost me near 170 euro a month
[06:10] <opnsrc> if I type it in it says Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem
[06:10] <Jowi> Dermot: you say it's not worth it? ;-)
[06:10] <Ivan> how do i speed up ubuntu startup? it takes like 5-10 min to boot everything???
[06:10] <opnsrc> And does anyone know of a way I can configure my menus other than Smeg
[06:10] <opnsrc> Smeg doesn't work
[06:10] <opnsrc> IT gives me so many problems
[06:10] <Dermot> Jowi, not for that price :)
[06:10] <Millenniumgroup> opnsrc, sorry bud I reallly don't why you can't use it
[06:10] <psusi> Ivan: are you talking about the livecd or installed on your hard drive?
[06:10] <user01> any idea how i can figure out how a video file is encoded if there is no extension on it?
[06:10] <opnsrc> Because the file system is mounted
[06:10] <opnsrc> I'm booting from the partition
[06:10] <Ivan> installed on my harddrive
[06:11] <opnsrc> The partition is mounted
[06:11] <Bufferfly> Ivan,  get a computer thats faster than a pentium 2
[06:11] <Millenniumgroup> ah right
[06:11] <Gerrath> I have a motherboard with the NFOURCE 430 chip set so I'm forced to use the latest nforce driver from nvidia and not the previous version that is in the Ubuntu repository.  Has anyone successfully installed the nvidia nforce driver on Ubuntu?
[06:11] <Ivan> Bufferfly no other way
[06:11] <Dermot> ok, time to eat, c ya later guys and gals
[06:11] <Ivan> i have e pentium crusoe 600mhz
[06:11] <opnsrc> But like if I get an error I can do it when it boots. Is there like a key, escape, that I can push
[06:11] <opnsrc> I tried escape
[06:11] <Millenniumgroup> later dermot
[06:11] <Gerrath> It compiles fine, loads fine but does not seem to make the nodes in /dev for the audio.
[06:11] <Bufferfly> Ivan, what speed is your processor, and how much ram do you have
[06:11] <Jowi> Ivan: that doesn't sound right. i got 65 seconds. compiled my own kernel and is now down to 35 seconds. have a look in the forums for "InitNG"
[06:11] <opnsrc> During boot that will let me type it in and use it
[06:11] <Gerrath> example: /dev/dsp
[06:12] <Millenniumgroup> opnsrc, sorry im kinda out of my league here.. but im sure there's someoen else who could help ya out
[06:12] <Ivan> Jowi what is initNG
[06:12] <Millenniumgroup> *someone
[06:12] <opnsrc> Thanks
[06:12] <opnsrc> Well I'm lost too, I'm new to linux
[06:12] <Bufferfly> Ivan,  how much ram do you have
[06:12] <Ivan> 128
[06:12] <Jowi> Ivan: initNG is some improved startup scripts. will reduce your boottime. I on a 1ghz 512mb ram.
[06:12] <kyllen1> I can't download hotway with apt-get
[06:12] <Bufferfly> ivan, that would be another reason it takes ages, you need more ram
[06:13] <opnsrc> thanks
[06:13] <Jowi> !info hotway
[06:13] <Bufferfly> Ivan, a full gnome install and all the modules ubuntu loads as default u really need a minimum of 256
[06:13] <Ivan> but i just want to use a system that dosn't need alot of ram
[06:13] <ubotu> hotway: (pop3 to Hotmail (HTTPmail) gateway), section universe/mail, is optional. Version: 1:0.8.2-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 48 kB, Installed size: 172 kB
[06:13] <Ivan> i dont use gnome
[06:13] <Ivan> i use fluxbox
[06:13] <mahangu> Ivan, use xfce
[06:13] <samu2> i ran ubuntu with 128 MB for a while
[06:13] <mahangu> Ivan, great
[06:13] <marcooo> so Jowi it says the following: The following package archive mirrors are available, for you to mirror from, if you would rather mirror from a downstream mirror than from the master servers at Ubuntu:
[06:13] <mahangu> even better
[06:13] <Jowi> kyllen1: as you can see it's in universe
[06:13] <Ivan> is there anything else i can do to save memory
[06:13] <Ivan> ??
[06:14] <marcooo> so if i paste the local url into my sources.list and apt-get update it should work?
[06:14] <Bufferfly> ivan, then u need to recompile the kernel as its obviously loading alot of modules u wont need or use
[06:14] <Jowi> Ivan: yeah, don't use gnome
[06:14] <Ivan> Jowi i dont, i use fluxbox
[06:14] <Ivan> any thing elese?
[06:14] <Ivan> else?
[06:14] <Jowi> !tell marcooo about repositories
[06:14] <Bufferfly> Ivan, thats the main thing, once u got that down...you should be fine.
[06:15] <kyllen1> jowi, in apt-cache don't see
[06:15] <Bufferfly> Ivan,  im not sure why ur running ubuntu if ur not going to take advantage of its gui
[06:15] <Bufferfly> Ivan,  id of gone with something like debian and installed it package by package
[06:15] <Ivan> Bufferfly
[06:15] <Ivan> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491&highlight=initNG
[06:15] <Jowi> Ivan: yeah, disable all startup progs you don't need. If you don't have any printers you can disable CUPS for example. read the forums, there are quite a bit to read in there.
[06:16] <Ivan> is that it?
[06:16] <Millenniumgroup> anyone got a guide on how to install/use INITG?
[06:16] <Jowi> kyllen1: you need to enable "universe" in your /etc/apt/sources.list. see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[06:16] <stewski> does anyone know how to tell if my ubuntu-desktop is up to date (I upgraded from 5.04 to 5.10 a while back)
[06:16] <Millenniumgroup> my boot takes a few secondsd, but I wanna learn something new :)
[06:17] <Jowi> Ivan: there is a program called BUM (Boot UP Manager) that can help you with that.
[06:17] <Ivan> what is initNG???
[06:17] <Jowi> !info bum
[06:17] <ubotu> bum: (tool to manage bootup scripts), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.3.2-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 55 kB, Installed size: 348 kB
[06:17] <kyllen1> thanks jowi
[06:17] <Millenniumgroup> INITNG >>> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80423&highlight=initng
[06:17] <Jowi> Ivan: i already told you. optimised startup/boot scripts
[06:17] <sambagirl> is anyone using ubuntu in a business setting? for example any medical facilities? using Vista medical software?
[06:17] <opnsrc> Does anyone know of a way I can edit my menus other than smeg
[06:17] <opnsrc> ?
[06:17] <Millenniumgroup> Initng is a full replacement of the old and in many ways deprecated sysvinit tool. It is designed with speed in mind because it does as much as possible asynchronously. In other words: It will boot your unix-system much faster, and give you more control and statistics over your system.
[06:18] <stewski> according to synaptic I dont have ubuntu desktop installed?
[06:18] <XiCillin> has anyone experienced their ssytem not shuting down when going to system>logout then shutdown while other apps are running like firefox?
[06:18] <XiCillin> and the gnome panel becoming unresponsive?
[06:19] <opnsrc> Is there any programs that can open quickbook files and transfer them to excel files?
[06:19] <opnsrc> Any free linux programs?
[06:20] <Jowi> stewski: ubuntu-desktop is a dummy/meta package that can be removed if you have updated or removed some packages. It is safe to have it gone. however, if you need to update your whole system (like a dist-upgrade or hoary->breezy) it is advisable to install it again
[06:20] <opnsrc> Basically how can I boot out of the GUI in Ubuntu
[06:20] <opnsrc> I want a command line interface only
[06:20] <opnsrc> Is there a key I can press during boot
[06:21] <Kyral> opnsrc: no........
[06:21] <opnsrc> I can type commands in Grub but that's not what I'm looking for since those only apply to grub commands
[06:21] <stewski> my desktop still uses xpdf for pdfs will that move me over to the new thing begins with the letter e?
[06:21] <Kyral> I mean you can disable GDM
[06:21] <gnu2it2> does quake 3 run on ubnutu ?
[06:21] <opnsrc> How to do that?
[06:21] <zandaa> gnu2it2, I see no reason why not
[06:21] <Kyral> opnsrc: sudo apt-get remove gdm?
[06:22] <opnsrc> No I don't want to remove it
[06:22] <Kyral> then I don't know lol
[06:22] <opnsrc> K thanks
[06:22] <Kyral> you'd have to take it out of hte boot sequence
[06:22] <Jowi> opnsrc: alt-f1 to alt-f5 will give you console. if you wish to boot into console instead of gui, "man telinit" and "man runlevel" and "man inittab"
[06:22] <stewski> sod it Ill load the ubuntu-desktop whats the worst that can happen :-)
[06:22] <opnsrc> thanks
[06:22] <opnsrc> you mean from grub right?
[06:23] <Kyral> opnsrc: no, the bootsequence
[06:23] <Kyral> opnsrc: GRUB just kickstarts the thing
[06:23] <opnsrc> menu.lst right?
[06:23] <Kyral> opnsrc: no..
[06:24] <Kyral> opnsrc: try using BUM to disable it
[06:24] <siab9000> Is anybody else having problem with "apt-get update" on the us.archive.ubuntu.com repository?
[06:25] <Torez04> Erm, hi. Can someone help me?
[06:25] <siab9000> the universe Packages is not in gzip format and it causes an error
[06:25] <HymnToLife> certainly
[06:25] <HymnToLife> what is your problem ?
[06:25] <opnsrc> thanks
[06:25] <Kyral> siab9000: remove the us. part from sources.list and try again
[06:25] <stewski> thats sorted it ah meta package to the rescue cheers Jowi
[06:25] <siab9000> it happens from my home laptop (fresh install off CD) and my workstation at office
[06:25] <Torez04> Ubuntu detects my wireless network card in the device manager area thing, but it's not available anywhere else
[06:25] <siab9000> kyral: ok i try that
[06:25] <Jowi> stewski: np :)
[06:25] <Torez04> I need it to share my internet
[06:26] <zandaa> !splashscreen
[06:26] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, splashscreen is to change your splashscreen via a GUI, "sudo apt-get install gtweakui", or install "gtweakui" from Synaptic (make sure you have universe !repos enabled)
[06:26] <robotgeek> Torez04: hmm, i can probably help you to get your wireless up. Sharing is not my ball game :)
[06:26] <opnsrc> I want to run fsck
[06:26] <siab9000> go for it
[06:26] <opnsrc> because I get some boot fails upon boot
[06:26] <boyo-mat1> what does ubuntu use for bootsplash?
[06:26] <Kyral> opnsrc: You can get to root with Recovery mode
[06:26] <Kyral> boyo-mat1: USplash
[06:26] <boyo-mat1> Kyral: thanks
[06:26] <robotgeek> Torez04: what wireless card do you have?
[06:27] <Torez04> Realtek RTL8180
[06:27] <opnsrc> boyo-mat1: USplash
[06:27] <opnsrc> ?
[06:27] <opnsrc> Oh n/m
[06:27] <opnsrc> I thought that was a command
[06:27] <opnsrc> heh
[06:27] <opnsrc> thanks
[06:27] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell Torez04 about wireless
[06:27] <opnsrc> k thanks
[06:27] <robotgeek> Torez04: is it listed as working on that page?
[06:27] <Jowi> opnsrc: fsck.ext3 (or which you have) /dev/harddisk_or_partition
[06:27] <opnsrc> thanks
[06:28] <opnsrc> doesn't work from a terminal while the OS is running
[06:28] <Jowi> opnsrc: you might want to add the -v switch
[06:28] <kbrooks> !rerpos
[06:28] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, kbrooks
[06:28] <siab9000> Kyral: that works, thank you.
[06:28] <opnsrc> I do
[06:28] <kbrooks> !repos
[06:28] <Torez04> Well it doesn't say it's not working anywhere..
[06:28] <ubotu> hmm... repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[06:28] <opnsrc> for verbose
[06:28] <kbrooks> brb lunch
[06:28] <siab9000> quit at the office
[06:30] <_Audrius_> is it possible to upgrade Ubuntu 5.04 to 5.10 using ubuntu update manager?
[06:30] <marcooo> !sources
[06:30] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:31] <Jowi> ubotu, tell _Audrius_ about breezyupgrade
[06:32] <vblanton> anyone know how to get the utility unrar so I can open .rar files?
[06:32] <Kyral> _Audrius_: you'd have to change /etc/apt/sources.list to use hoary instead of breezy
[06:32] <Jowi> !info unrar-free
[06:32] <ubotu> unrar-free: (Unarchiver for .rar files), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1:0.0.1-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 15 kB, Installed size: 84 kB
[06:32] <Kyral> vblanton: sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree
[06:32] <ProNoob> i am getting alot of "Dec  9 18:21:07 localhost kernel: [4300107.330000]  eth0: Too much work at interr upt, status=0x3c48080." messages like that since yesterday, and when it happens i get disconnected, i am connected to the internet with pppoe over eth0, any ideas ?
[06:32] <Jowi> !info unrar-nonfree
[06:32] <ubotu> unrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 83 kB, Installed size: 216 kB
[06:32] <vblanton> Jowi Kyral : I tried installing it but for some reason it wont open this .rar file I have...
[06:33] <Kyral> vblanton: is it one of those multipart rars?
[06:33] <vblanton> Kyral: I'm not sure
[06:33] <stewski> cant the standard ubu archieve handler handle rar?
[06:33] <Jowi> vblanton: if you're using unrar-nonfree it should definetley work
[06:33] <vblanton> Jowi: unrar-nonfree is not in my adept...?
[06:34] <Jowi> vblanton: it's in the multiverse repos
[06:34] <AlexO> hey, Im trying to use my add applications and when it loads up everything is greyed out and I can't click on anything. How do I fix this?
[06:34] <vblanton> Jowi: is there a place I can read up on what multiverse is?
[06:34] <Kyral> ubotu tell vblanton about repos
[06:34] <tristan> AlexO : are talking about smeg?
[06:34] <AlexO> smeg?
[06:34] <Kyral> vblanton: our friendly bot should have just PM'd you a link
[06:35] <zandaa> any dosbox users in here?
[06:35] <Jowi> yeah vblanton:
[06:35] <Jowi> !repos
[06:35] <vblanton> Kyral: ok thanks
[06:35] <ubotu> repos is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[06:35] <tristan> AlexO : adding menus and shortcut to your menu bar...
[06:35] <Jowi> Kyral: you're quicker :)
[06:35] <Torez04> I just ran lspci, and it doesn't detect my wireless card...
[06:35] <Kyral> Jowi: because I'm good at this
[06:35] <stewski> steps back for a moment, this place is amzing you know
[06:35] <AlexO> no, all I did was try and run it and it won't fully load
[06:35] <Kyral> Torez04: what kind is it?
[06:36] <Jowi> haha
[06:36] <Torez04> RTL8180 as far as I know
[06:36] <Kyral> Torez04: have you tried NDiswrapper?
[06:36] <tristan> try in terminal to run it as root by typing sudo smeg
[06:36] <Torez04> Yep
[06:36] <joedj> anyone know why KDE beeps when i hold shift for ~5sec?
[06:36] <Torez04> Device manager sees the wireless card, but nothing else
[06:36] <Kyral> joedj: no idea I don't run KDE
[06:36] <Kyral> Torez04: is it a PCI card?
[06:36] <Torez04> YEs
[06:36] <nifelseki> i have the same problem with my wireless usb adapter
[06:36] <robotgeek> Torez04: ig the Device Manager sees it, lspci should see it too
[06:37] <robotgeek> nifelseki: lsusb | less
[06:37] <Torez04> it doesn't, it's really wierd..
[06:37] <stewski> anyone know of a good way of mapping windows+e to nautilus etc?
[06:37] <Jowi> joedj: no idea, but i can guess that it might be a bell for enabling "sticky-keys" or something. look in your keyboard prefs
[06:37] <nifelseki> can anyone help me installing my wireless usb adapter..?
[06:37] <Torez04> Wait..
[06:37] <Torez04> It's found it..
[06:37] <AlexO> Does nobody know how I can fix this? : (
[06:38] <nifelseki> can anyone help me installing my wireless usb adapter..? dlink (dwl-g132)
[06:38] <tristan> try in terminal to run it as root by typing sudo smeg
[06:38] <tristan> AlexO : try in terminal to run it as root by typing sudo smeg
[06:38] <Jowi> nifelseki: i'm not a wireless guy, but have you looked at the wifi wiki docs?
[06:38] <AlexO> alright
[06:39] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell nifelseki about wireless
[06:39] <nifelseki> yeah.. but it got weird while i was trying to install ndiswrapper
[06:39] <Jowi> ah
[06:39] <nifelseki> finding it very difficult to install it
[06:39] <Torez04> alright. Lspci has found my card. What do I do if it doesn't say my device in the list in the wiki?
[06:39] <robotgeek> nifelseki: uggh, i have no clue with ndiswrapper. sorry
[06:39] <nifelseki> awwwwww
[06:39] <Jowi> nifelseki: did you have a look here as well...
[06:39] <Jowi> !wifi
[06:39] <ubotu> it has been said that wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[06:39] <AlexO> aha! it works, thank you tristan
[06:39] <robotgeek> Torez04: see that link. WifIHowto :)
[06:40] <Taa5i> Has anyone had any success using an HP NetRaid with Ubuntu?
[06:40] <nifelseki> did that.. anyways.. just curious.. i just downloaded the new version of openoffice.. should i remove the openoffice provided by ubuntu or would it automatically update it..?
[06:41] <Kyral> nifelseki: if its OO2 it will just upgrade
[06:41] <AlexO> err wait, It brought up a menu editor, what do I do from here?
[06:41] <kbrooks> Kyral, rephrase that
[06:41] <tristan> AlexO : OK. You might have trouble after to have you menu updated. I had that trouble also. If you have that problem, see my post here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=538193#post538193
[06:41] <Kyral> kbrooks: huh?
[06:41] <Taa5i> The controller for it doesn't even appear in lsscsi --hosts, which is botehrsome.  In debian sarge neitehr that nor the symios one appeared, in Gentoo both appear fine [but other prolems arise] .
[06:41] <kbrooks> Kyral, what will just upgrade? and what's "it"?
[06:42] <tristan> AlexO : you edit what you want. Like if you want to add shortcuts in the menu accessories, you can
[06:42] <kbrooks> Kyral, Your statement is a bit ambiguous
[06:42] <stewski> any advice on really cool apps I may not know?
[06:42] <kbrooks> nifelseki, you have to remove the old openoffice before installing the newer one
[06:42] <Kyral> emacs? Beagle? F-Spot?
[06:42] <HymnToLife> to do what stewski ?
[06:43] <_Audrius_> a question regarding mouse. I have configured mouse motion to be more smoothly, but when i'm using touch pad on my notebook, those settings do not affect it. how to configure touch-pad's sensitivity>
[06:43] <AlexO> err no, that isn't the problem. I know where the add applications is but when I click on it it doesnt fully load, it comes up but everything is greyed out and I can't click on anything
[06:43] <robotgeek> Kyral: emacs is not a cool app :)
[06:43] <HymnToLife> emacs stinks
[06:43] <Kyral> robotgeek: Not here ;P
[06:43] <HymnToLife> vi rules :p
[06:43] <Kyral> NO EDITOR WARS!!
[06:43] <AlexO> would it help if I sent a screenshot and sent it to you?
[06:43] <tristan> AlexO : you launch it as root?
[06:43] <stewski> anything HYmnToLife name those obscure utils and Ill check em out
[06:43] <Kyral> Irssi
[06:43] <_jason> Kyral, war? it's not even close vim4life :P
[06:43] <AlexO> how would I go about doing that?
[06:43] <stewski> prefereably gui based
[06:43] <ProNoob> i am getting alot of "Dec  9 18:21:07 localhost kernel: [4300107.330000]  eth0: Too much work at interr upt, status=0x3c48080." messages like that since yesterday, and when it happens i get disconnected, i am connected to the internet with pppoe over eth0, any ideas ?
[06:43] <AlexO> sorry if im being a troble by the way, im just new to this
[06:44] <Kyral> well, Emacs Vim and Irssi just got shot out of the cannon
[06:44] <nifelseki> anyways.. just curious.. i just downloaded the new version of openoffice.. should i remove the openoffice provided by ubuntu or would it automatically update it..?
[06:44] <tristan> AlexO : by typing in terminal "sudo smeg" without quotes
[06:44] <soundray> _Audrius_, touchpads usually have their own driver. Most are either Synaptics or Alps - that would be the first thing you want to find out.
[06:44] <AlexO> well I did that it took me to the menu editor, not the add remove applictions
[06:44] <Jowi> tristan: smeg is the menu editor. AlexO wanted the app installer
[06:44] <stewski> Whats Irssi?
[06:44] <kbrooks> AlexO, is it greyed outr when it loads
[06:45] <Kyral> stewski: Console based IRC Client
[06:45] <_Audrius_> soundray, ok, but if i simply have just notebook, how should i find out this?
[06:45] <AlexO> yeah
[06:45] <Kyral> stewski: Very powerful and loads of scripts
[06:45] <kbrooks> stewski, a console based irc client
[06:45] <tristan> OK. I understand
[06:45] <kbrooks> Alex, No
[06:45] <kbrooks> smeg, AlexO
[06:45] <stewski> coolio the other 2 I know term based text eds
[06:45] <tristan> Sorry but my Ubuntu is in French so sometimes I have mistranslation...
[06:45] <soundray> _Audrius_, look through the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see if the term Synaptics occurs.
[06:45] <stewski> Vi - Improved takes me back
[06:45] <Kyral> stewski: If you ask in a Linux channel for "really cool apps" you will most likely find a lot of them console based :D
[06:45] <AlexO> im in the menu editor now, what do I do from here? I see the add applictions on the list here
[06:46] <Torez04> I get an Operation Not Permitted when trying to modprobe ndiswrapper
[06:46] <stewski> yeah I know Kyral
[06:46] <kbrooks> AlexO, when you startup smeg, is it greyed out (the gui)?
[06:46] <Kyral> Torez04: sudo it
[06:46] <Jowi> Torez04: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"
[06:46] <DelTree> hi...
[06:46] <stewski> and dont get me wrong Vi sure needed Improving and Vim a fine job at that
[06:46] <kbrooks> AlexO, yes or no please
[06:46] <tristan> AlexO : do you want to install new applications?
[06:46] <AlexO> not when i use smeg, only when I try and use add aplications
[06:46] <AlexO> yes : P
[06:46] <Kyral> stewski: Lets keep the Editor Wars out of here lol
[06:46] <stewski> lol
[06:46] <Torez04> Yeah, I thought about Sudoing it. I don't understand Linux though, lol
[06:46] <_Audrius_> soundray, bingo... I fount synaptics :) What next steps should i take to configure it?
[06:46] <Kyral> stewski: Beagle is awesome
[06:46] <tristan> kbrooks : shall he go to Synaptic o install the apps...
[06:46] <kbrooks> Torez04, correction: you don't understand ubuntu
[06:47] <Jowi> Torez04: whenever you need to modify system files, sudo is needed
[06:47] <stewski> best yeah is top
[06:47] <DelTree> how is the file install/powerpc/vmlinux of the cdrom produced ?
[06:47] <Kyral> stewski: if you know what Spotlight is on Mac, you know what Beagle is
[06:47] <Jowi> ubotu, tell Torez04 about sudo
[06:47] <soundray> _Audrius_, I think you can install an application called tpconfig.
[06:47] <Torez04> XD. Correction: I don't understand Linux OR Ubuntu
[06:47] <HymnToLife> !sudo
[06:47] <ubotu> somebody said sudo was the command to get superuser privileges, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[06:47] <Kyral> DelTree: compiled on a PowerPC machine :P
[06:47] <kbrooks> Torez04, some linux distributions don't use sudo
[06:47] <Torez04> I'm 110% new to all this stuff..
[06:47] <kbrooks> by default
[06:48] <kbrooks> Torez04, anyway, welcome to ubuntu
[06:48] <Kyral> stewski: VLC owns :D
[06:48] <HymnToLife> but the Ubuntu build doesn't
[06:48] <tristan> AlexO : then you should use synaptic
[06:48] <_Audrius_> soundray, thanks
[06:48] <AlexO> where is that at?
[06:48] <HymnToLife> it can't play MKV files, I had to recompile it all
[06:48] <DelTree> Kyral: I know that... but linux-source-2.6.12_2.6.12-9.23_all.deb is not enough... where's the di version ???
[06:48] <soundray> _Audrius_, does that work for you?
[06:48] <kbrooks> Torez04, hmm let me give me a example to show how ubuntu could be used. you can install new software
[06:48] <Kyral> HymnToLife: You have to install libmatroksa :P
[06:49] <Kyral> !info libmatroska
[06:49] <Urthmover> howq do I enable the logo key?
[06:49] <kbrooks> Torez04, system > adminstration > synaptic. now ... a dialog box pops up
[06:49] <_Audrius_> i'm working on it
[06:49] <HymnToLife> haha nice one, of course I did
[06:49] <Kyral> Urthmover: you mean the Windows Key
[06:49] <Kyral> HymnToLife: Hmm, worked for me....
[06:49] <Urthmover> lol
[06:49] <_Audrius_> soundray, i'm working on this
[06:49] <Urthmover> yeah
[06:49] <Urthmover> I try not to use that bad word whenever possible
[06:49] <HymnToLife> but it still wouldn't read them, I recompiled it and it worked
[06:49] <stewski> beagle yeah I compiled it, its more than a bit heavy at the moment though?
[06:49] <Kyral> Urthmover: It is referred to as "Super_L/R" in shortcuts
[06:49] <XiCillin> hello, i have freebsd 5.4 install on /dev/hda4 on my 1 and only hd. I"m trying to edit menu.lst so i can boot to it. i have (hd0,3,a) for 'root'. would the 3 be a 4 for hda4?
[06:49] <soundray> _Audrius_, okay, take your time, hope it works. Off again...
[06:50] <kbrooks> Torez04, and you type in a password you associated with your account when you installed ubuntu
[06:50] <Urthmover> ok...so where's shortcuts?
[06:50] <Urthmover> I'm new man sry
[06:50] <stewski> I cant settle on one movie player none seem to play everyhting exactly as I want
[06:50] <Kyral> stewski: you don't have to compile it
[06:50] <DelTree> how the hell can I patch that kernel and make a new CD image ??
[06:50] <AlexO> where is synaptic at?
[06:50] <Kyral> Urthmover: Keyboard shortcuts. I think its in Preferences
[06:50] <vectoralpha|away> stewski: mplayer?
[06:50] <Torez04> I know Synaptic pretty much. It's installing from GZs I really suck at.
[06:50] <kbrooks> Torez04, press enter
[06:50] <HymnToLife> stewski > VLC does for me
[06:50] <stewski> yeah got mplayer
[06:50] <stewski> and VLC
[06:50] <tristan> AlexO : type in terminal sudo synaptic
[06:50] <kbrooks> Torez04, ah ok
[06:51] <Urthmover> System > Administration > Synaptic package manager
[06:51] <Kyral> Torez04: 99% of the itme you shouldn't have to do from tarballs
[06:51] <Kyral> and I have to go to class lol
[06:51] <stewski> theres no way to monkey with the aspect output in either
[06:51] <vectoralpha> stewski: i never really liked vlc, mplayer is the way to go
[06:51] <stewski> but theyre both very good
[06:51] <HymnToLife> mplayer stinks if you have a widesreen monitor
[06:51] <kbrooks> Torez04, define the fact that you are a 100% newbie please
[06:51] <tristan> AlexO : else go to System - Administration - Synaptic
[06:51] <Jowi> Urthmover: gnome-keyboard-properties. look at "layout options" and "Alt/Win key behaviour"
[06:51] <AlexO> alittle off topic but is the sudo command used to run things in the terminal?
[06:51] <hmpedersen> Does anyone know how to register a protocol for use when clicking links? (and how to choose which program to open the link in)
[06:51] <AlexO> ok
[06:51] <stewski> I had to compile mplayer too
[06:51] <Torez04> Lol, 99% of the time I've spent using Ubuntu, I've done nothing BUT install from gz >.<
[06:51] <vectoralpha> stewski: i'm actually compiling it right now
[06:51] <tristan> AlexO : no sudo is to get super user privilege
[06:51] <Kyral> AlexO: sudo is used to execute commands that need Root
[06:51] <kbrooks> Torez04, dont pm me
[06:52] <kbrooks> talk here
[06:52] <stewski> and when I installed beagle you had to compile best I think although it was a while back
[06:52] <Torez04> Define it? It's been about 3 days since the first time I EVER saw anything to do with Linux in my entire life..
[06:52] <Kyral> AlexO: you can run anything with it
[06:52] <Kyral> kbrooks: stop hassling the kid lol
[06:52] <Jowi> Torez04: i hope you like it :)
[06:52] <AlexO> oh alright
[06:52] <kbrooks> Kyral, i'm a kid too
[06:52] <HymnToLife> lmao
[06:52] <kbrooks> 14
[06:52] <Torez04> So far, I'm impressed, but really confused..
[06:52] <AlexO> ok synaptic came up with an error
[06:53] <tristan> AlexO : which is...?
[06:53] <AlexO> E: Type 'eb-src' is not known on line 37 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:53] <Kyral> kbrooks: I meant kid as in level of Linux Knowledge
[06:53] <fredi> kann von euch jemand deutsch?
[06:53] <AlexO> : The list of sources could not be read.
[06:53] <AlexO> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
[06:53] <Kyral> and I really have to go
[06:53] <chrisx1> Jowi, Fetched 529MB in 41m4s (215kB/s)
[06:53] <chrisx1> lolz
[06:53] <stewski> also I cant get 5.1 surround
[06:53] <kbrooks> Kyral, so go
[06:53] <HymnToLife> Alex > seemsyou forgot a "d" in your soures.list on line 37
[06:53] <tristan> AlexO : did you changed your repository?
[06:53] <Jowi> Torez04: it take some rethinking since it is a different way to do things.
[06:53] <stewski> on my nforce 2 setup
[06:53] <Jowi> chrisx1: not bad ;)
[06:53] <AlexO> nope, but I clicked ok on the error and its working now : P
[06:53] <chrisx1> lolz yah pretty good eh
[06:53] <stewski> that said ubuntu has plenty of tricks up its sleeve
[06:54] <vblanton> Torez04: but once you've got the hang of it, ya can't go back ;)
[06:54] <HymnToLife> agreed
[06:54] <Urthmover> yeah got it...thanks
[06:54] <tristan> AlexO : then you will have a repository that won't be working? Anyway, now you can look for the apps you want to install. It is very easy and will do everything for you
[06:54] <Torez04> I just wish it was more compatible. Ubuntu with compatability would be pretty much like two turtles strapped back-to-back, each carrying a gun; unstoppable...
[06:54] <Torez04> If they understood how to use a gun that is...
[06:54] <Torez04> But anyway, you get my point..
[06:54] <vblanton> turtles...
[06:55] <Urthmover> now if I can just get NSV to play......what is the command to figure out the package names in apt-get?
[06:55] <vectoralpha> stewski: have you tried the command to modify aspect ratio for mplayer..., ex mplayer -monitoraspect 4:3
[06:55] <Urthmover> apt-get search doesn't seem to work/exists on mine
[06:55] <GranMaestro> hi is there anybody here running wifi with airport on breezy-ppc?
[06:55] <stewski> ah vector I run a 24" widescreen at 1920X1200
[06:55] <vblanton> Torez04: there is software available to run windows software on linux. Some of it is free, some of it costs money. you should look into "wine" if your ever interested http://www.winehq.com <-- I think
[06:56] <Jowi> Urthmover: "apt-cache search --names-only mysearchword"
[06:56] <AlexO> so do I need to fix this repository thing? or will it even matter?
[06:56] <stewski> and in power dvd you can choose the output of aspect of your video
[06:56] <stewski> pan and scan
[06:56] <zandaa> can anyone help me installing the flash plugin for firefox?
[06:56] <stewski> original
[06:56] <Torez04> I heard wine mentioned once, hm.. will look into that some time..
[06:56] <chrisx1> Jowi, is this ok : perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:        LANGUAGE = "en_GB:en",        LC_ALL = (unset),        LANG = "en_GB.UTF-8"    are supported and installed on your system. perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
[06:56] <Urthmover> once again thanks jowi
[06:56] <stewski> 1.618 what ever
[06:56] <tristan> AlexO : well it would be better.
[06:56] <stewski> 2.35:1
[06:56] <vectoralpha> stewski mplayer -monitoraspect 8:5
[06:56] <HymnToLife> Alex0 > it will matter if you want to install software from that particulary repo
[06:56] <vblanton> Torez04: currently, the only thing I run on wine is eMule.. the p2p filesharing program
[06:56] <AlexO> how would I go about fixing it? should I reinstall ubuntu?
[06:56] <sylvain_> i just install ubuntu and i like pretty much, but somebody can help me with root passwd
[06:56] <Ng> vblanton: why not run amule natively? :)
[06:57] <stewski> ah an option not available through gui but on the command line I see
[06:57] <vectoralpha> stewski, when talking to me please type my handle so that i can see you are talking to me
[06:57] <Torez04> Right, wireless is being detected perfectly now, woot. Is there a howto on sharing internet over a wifi connection? As in, like, recieving internet in on a wired connection, then broadcasting out on the wireless?
[06:57] <HymnToLife> AlexO > no way
[06:57] <vblanton> Ng: amule doesn't have support for Kad yet, and it's become very importan
[06:57] <Jowi> chrisx1: only a warning. nothing fatal.
[06:57] <stewski> soz and thanks vectoralpha
[06:57] <tristan> AlexO : not at all. Use pastebin to paste your source.list
[06:57] <HymnToLife> just run this : sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:57] <Ng> vblanton: ah, I havent used edonkey for a while, but I was using mldonkey anyway ;)
[06:57] <vectoralpha> stewski if you always want it at that ratio, just make a shell script that'll do it for you
[06:57] <vblanton> Ng: without Kad you get half the sources..
[06:58] <vectoralpha> stewski, let me know if that option works okay though, i am rather curious
[06:58] <vblanton> Torez04: have fun, im outa here.
[06:58] <Torez04> See yas
[06:58] <Urthmover> what is the name for the w32codecs?
[06:58] <Urthmover> I can't seem to find it in apt-cache
[06:58] <stewski> well its dependant on the source vectoralpha o it would be a good candidate for a gui option
[06:58] <vectoralpha> stewski i do agree
[06:59] <pawdro> what make-kpkg clean do?
[06:59] <AlexO> ok im in the sources list
[06:59] <AlexO> what do I do from here?
[06:59] <stewski> but ta for the commandline option name vectoralpha
[06:59] <sylvain_> somebody want help me for root password
[06:59] <vectoralpha> stewski, no problem, let me know how it works for you, and..., how long did it take you to compile?
[06:59] <Ng> sylvain_: see the RootSudo page in the ubuntu wiki
[07:00] <stewski> anyone know if you can run your whole gnome session as root?
[07:00] <tristan> AlexO : go to line 37 and see if there is somthing different from the other lines.
[07:00] <Ng> stewski: if you log in as root
[07:00] <Urthmover> sylvain_, sudo passwd root
[07:00] <sylvain_> tank you
[07:00] <obscurite> Hey when I 'apt-get install open-ssh' it keeps prompting me to insert the breezy cd. Any ideas?
[07:00] <stewski> oh vectoralpha ages it took longer than the bloody linux kernel
[07:00] <Ng> stewski: so you'd need to enable a root password to be able to do it
[07:00] <obscurite> openssh-server, rather
[07:00] <Siph0n> neone have issues where if u play a dvd in VLC, and close VLC, the sound still plays?
[07:00] <vectoralpha> stewski, joy, i recompiled my kernel three times yesterday
[07:00] <tristan> AlexO : it should be something that is illogical compared to other line. Not different like the universe is changed by multiverse... There should only a slight difference
[07:00] <stewski> Ng well I dont want to log in as root exactly, Is it possible to keep my session but with root privaledges
[07:01] <bur[n] er> stewski: sudo
[07:01] <HymnToLife> Siph0n > which audio output engine do you use ?
[07:01] <AlexO> am I in the right place? im in sources.list (/etc/apt) - gedit
[07:01] <Ng> stewski: you could copy your home directory into /root/ maybe, but generally that'd be quite a manual and painful process, why do ou want to?
[07:01] <obscurite> Anyone have any idea why apt-get would be prompting me to insert a cdrom to install openssh-server on Breezy?
[07:01] <vectoralpha> stewski, what are you trying to do as root?, why would you want them full in your session
[07:01] <Ng> obscurite: you need to set up some internet apt sources
[07:01] <stewski> no bur[n] er Im after a way to use my sesion (probably mostly nautilus) as root
[07:02] <bur[n] er> obscurite: and remove the cd rom line in sources
[07:02] <stewski> I currently sudo nautlius
[07:02] <obscurite> Ng - oh, is there just no source for that one package?
[07:02] <Jowi> obscurite: you can comment out the cdrom in /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:02] <zandaa> WHY???
[07:02] <obscurite> Ng - first package I couldn't find in my sources so far :)
[07:02] <bur[n] er> stewski: and what's wrong with that? :)
[07:02] <tristan> AlexO : copy your source.list text. Go to http://pastebin.com/ and paste it and tell me when it's done
[07:02] <obscurite> burner, Jowi, thanks
[07:02] <Ng> obscurite: comment out the cdrom one and enable universe/multiverse and you should be fine :)
[07:02] <obscurite> Ng, gotcha
[07:02] <stewski> well it runs an ugly root preferenced version of nautlius
[07:02] <Jowi> obscurite: don't forget to "sudo apt-get update" afterwards
[07:02] <bur[n] er> for the record, universe/multiverse isn't "free" persay
[07:03] <vectoralpha> stewski: why do you want to run that as root?
[07:03] <bur[n] er> stewski: sudo gnome-theme-manager
[07:03] <Ng> bur[n] er: plenty of it is
[07:03] <Ng> bur[n] er: like, much of universe is
[07:03] <AlexO> ok I sent it
[07:03] <Jowi> stewski: no need to run the theme-manager as root
[07:03] <bur[n] er> Ng: let me rephrase... universe/multiverse isn't completely free :)
[07:03] <stewski> becuase Im moving files that needs root access vectoralpha
[07:04] <stewski> and guys can I tell you a joke
[07:04] <bur[n] er> Jowi: how would you put different icons on a root nautilus?
[07:04] <obscurite> I'm all set, thanks for the sources.list help
[07:04] <stewski> I went to the doctor and said doctor doctor it hurts when I lift my left arm he said "dont lift your left arm" :-)
[07:04] <gobfrey> can someone helpme with a CD that won't mount?
[07:04] <Jowi> bur[n] er: no idea, not using gnome or nautilus. Rox-Filer is so much quicker
[07:04] <chrisx1> haha. not funny ya know:P
[07:04] <vectoralpha> stewski: you do that on a regular enough basis to want an easier way...?, i would just do it all through console, but that is just me
[07:05] <sladen> gobfrey: what doesn't work?
[07:05] <zandaa> is there a flash-plugin installer which works on 64-bit systems?
[07:05] <bur[n] er> nautilus is so much more featureful than rox though
[07:05] <tristan> AlexO : ok. On line 37 there is eb-src. It should be deb-src
[07:05] <tristan> AlexO : After, everything will be OK
[07:05] <stewski> well vectoralpha there is a lot to be said for slowing down root file access/moves and making yourself think without a gui tis true
[07:05] <AlexO> alright i'll try it : D
[07:05] <Jowi> chrisx1: i went to the doctor in ireland and said i was feeling ill, feverish. doctor told me to "drink lots of fluids - like sprite or cola" : no joke :-/
[07:05] <AlexO> yay
[07:06] <AlexO> thank you tristan!
[07:06] <gobfrey> sladen Other CDs mount OK, but this one doesn't.  It works OK in my dad's windows machine.  In the Disks Manager, when I click on 'enable' I get this message: Couldn't find "/tmp/disks-conf-hda".
[07:06] <Eggplant> Hello all
[07:06] <chrisx1> lmfao
[07:06] <chrisx1> doctors suck
[07:06] <tristan> AlexO : you were able to save the file?
[07:06] <bur[n] er> stewski: sudo apt-get install tango-icon-theme ;)  that's how I make nautilus look pretty
[07:06] <AlexO> yeah, and the add applictions works fine now :D
[07:06] <stewski> lol cheers bur[n] er
[07:06] <gobfrey> sladen:  when I say mount I mean appear on the desktop and in the file browser
[07:06] <sladen> gobfrey: interesting.
[07:06] <tristan> AlexO : so you're done and I'm done
[07:06] <stewski> catch u guys later have a good eve/day
[07:06] <AlexO> yep, thanks again
[07:06] <tristan> I going back home. See you
[07:06] <chrisx1> Jowi, my dad asked for a doctor to come see him cos hes disabled n cant get out + it was cold they said no theres ppl worse than you at this moment 3 days later he died in hospital
[07:07] <sladen> gobfrey: does it mount or give you an error message from the commandline?
[07:07] <obscurite> Anyone know of a network config tool that works well in breezy that supports WPA setup? the default tool only does WEP sadly.
[07:07] <chrisx1> no joke there
[07:07] <concept10> !info firefox
[07:07] <ubotu> firefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.0.7-0ubuntu20 (breezy), Packaged size: 8268 kB, Installed size: 23932 kB
[07:07] <gobfrey> sladen how do I mount it from the command line?
[07:07] <tristan> AlexO : btw : are you an english canadian speaker or french canadian speaker?
[07:07] <Jowi> chrisx1: that's sad man
[07:07] <sladen> obscurite: WPA requires faffing and certain combination of hardware at the moment
[07:07] <AlexO> english
[07:07] <chrisx1> Jowi, i coulda slapped them stupid
[07:07] <AlexO> why do you ask?
[07:07] <sladen> gobfrey: sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/hda /mnt
[07:07] <concept10> I guess firefox 1.5 is not avail for breezy in the repos?
[07:08] <chrisx1> Jowi, im only 15 he could of been better if they had come out
[07:08] <bur[n] er> concept10: nope
[07:08] <obscurite> sladen: okay, so it's al inux issue and not a crappy config tool issue?
[07:08] <bur[n] er> concept10: possibly backports?
[07:08] <sladen> concept10: no
[07:08] <gobfrey> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda,
[07:08] <Seveas> concept10, of course not
[07:08] <chrisx1> Jowi, me to:P
[07:08] <bur[n] er> gobfrey: /dev/hda == your hard drive
[07:08] <tristan> AlexO : OK. Just one ittle thing to end. When speaking specifically to someone you should ask his name in thr sentence. That way it apperas in red on his screen. It is easier to follow up that way.
[07:08] <concept10> Ive ben running it for months , but I want to uninstall 1.07
[07:08] <chrisx1> Jowi, stil installing like the 600+ packages
[07:08] <tristan> AlexO : because I am French so I was wondering.
[07:08] <Eggplant> Is this the place to get help for the live cd or does that have its own channel?
[07:09] <sladen> obscurite: WPA is an utter pain with Linux at the moment.  Search for 'wpa' on the wiki for some pointers
[07:09] <AlexO> tristan : like this?
[07:09] <Jowi> chrisx1: yep, that will take a while.
[07:09] <chrisx1> is the forefox 1.5 avalible for ubuntu yet?
[07:09] <obscurite> sladen: thanks
[07:09] <tristan> AlexO : yes. I see the sentence in red that way
[07:09] <chrisx1> *Fire
[07:09] <Jowi> bbl all :)
[07:09] <chrisx1> Cya Jowi
[07:09] <tristan> AlexO : see this is red for you
[07:09] <tristan> And not this
[07:09] <Seveas> chrisx1, only in dapper, probably never in breezy
[07:09] <gobfrey> burner: hda is my CDROM
[07:09] <chrisx1> owk
[07:09] <chrisx1> *ok*
[07:09] <bur[n] er> gobfrey: u sure?  absolutely sure?
[07:09] <AlexO> tristan : ok i'll remeber that next time I need help, thanks again
[07:09] <gobfrey> my HDs are sda
[07:09] <zandaa> where's the firefox plugin directory?
[07:09] <chrisx1> !windows
[07:09] <ubotu> [windows]  unnecessary, everything runs in Linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office or find an !alternative, or what you remove to make room for kubuntu
[07:09] <tristan> Bye girls and boys
[07:09] <bur[n] er> gobfrey: aww... sata hard drives?
[07:10] <Siph0n> HymnToLife, im not sure, how do i find out?
[07:10] <gobfrey> burner: I'm looking at it in the disks manager
[07:10] <chrisx1> !ntfs
[07:10] <ubotu> well, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[07:10] <concept10> Seveas, are you running on dapper?
[07:10] <gobfrey> burner yes, sata drives
[07:10] <chrisx1> is dapper avalible on cd yet?
[07:10] <bur[n] er> gobfrey: i am not sure what to do then... i'm sorry  "sudo mount /dev/hda /media/hda" ??
[07:10] <bur[n] er> chrisx1: no
[07:10] <chrisx1> bur[n] er, its not released yet?
[07:11] <bur[n] er> chrisx1: not for about 5 months
[07:11] <gobfrey> I think there's a problem with the CD and windows is more forgiving than ubuntu perhaps...
[07:11] <chrisx1> how come u got it bur[n] er :o
[07:11] <bur[n] er> gobfrey: possibly
[07:11] <gobfrey> burner: is there a more forgiving way to mount a CD?
[07:11] <bur[n] er> chrisx1: i am using the dapper repositories... i wouldn't suggest it... it's bound to break things until it's released in 5 months
[07:11] <zandaa> where's the firefox plugin directory?
[07:11] <chrisx1> k
[07:12] <concept10> chrisx1, apt - but dont install without knowing what might happen
[07:12] <bur[n] er> zandaa: .mozilla/plugins
[07:12] <chrisx1> im still installing 5.10
[07:12] <chrisx1> :P
[07:12] <tritium> zandaa, dpkg -L <packagename> will list the files in a package
[07:12] <russell__> Can someone help. I have a wireless usb dongle, I have it working but everytime I restart I have to modprobe again for it to mount. Anyone have any suggestions?
[07:12] <tritium> russell__, add the module name to /etc/modules
[07:12] <bur[n] er> russell__: technically modprobe isn't "mounting" but what i would do is add that module to /etc/modules
[07:12] <zandaa> bur[n] er, where can I find these in the structure?
[07:13] <bur[n] er> zandaa: ~/.mozilla/plugins
[07:13] <russell__> ok thanks I will give that a try.
[07:13] <chrisx1> closin xchat till its finished
[07:13] <chrisx1> cya ppl
[07:13] <tck_> hey peeps
[07:14] <tck_> the Terminal Server Client that comes with ubnutu by default
[07:14] <tck_> how does one enable the 'ICA' option
[07:14] <tck_> i see RDP and VNC
[07:14] <zandaa> bur[n] er, I must be retarted, but there's no such directories
[07:14] <vectoralpha> tck_: ica?
[07:14] <Firecracker> Hi guys, small issue, I just installed Breezy but  my 3d card does not work and I have installed the fglrx driver in synaptic :( any ideas?
[07:14] <tck_> citrix
[07:15] <vectoralpha> Firecracker: how new is the card?
[07:15] <Firecracker> vectoralpha, its a 9200
[07:15] <russell__> How do I edit the module?  I am a noob so be easy.
[07:15] <Firecracker> its worked before, but this time its not
[07:15] <vectoralpha> Firecracker: any errors from X?
[07:15] <czr_> I must say, I'm pretty impressed with the upgrade from .04 to .10
[07:16] <czr_> even my root on LVM survived quite nicely :-)
[07:16] <Firecracker> hmm, dont know, but fgl_glxgears  gives me X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
[07:16] <czr_> does anyone know which package contains the online ext2-resizing tool?
[07:18] <Firecracker> vectoralpha, does the xorg file need to have fglrx in it, at the moment its got ATI
[07:18] <vectoralpha> Firecracker: yes, it does need fglrx in it
[07:19] <HymnToLife> if you want to use the fglrx drivers, it's better to have it, yes
[07:19] <russell__> The directions I am following here. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/zd1211wifi
[07:19] <vectoralpha> Firecracker:  try running fglrxconfig in console
[07:19] <Firecracker> vectoralpha, I thought the deb installed changed that automaticly as I have never needed to do it manually on ubuntu, debian and other distros yes
[07:20] <tritium> !tell Firecracker about ati
[07:21] <Firecracker> tritium, ok ill try that and restart and come back and let ya know
[07:22] <tritium> ok
[07:22] <russell__> states that I need to add a line break to zd1211 any ideas on how to add the line break?
[07:23] <QRZ> russell__:  Edit the module?  No, just add it to your /etc/modules file with, "echo 'module_name' >> /etc/modules" or you can open up /etc/modules in a text editor and add it that way.  Either way will accomplish the same thing.  :-)
[07:23] <russell__> Thanks
[07:23] <LoPMX> FUCK UBUNTU! (joking)
[07:24] <FireCracker> tritium, Hey there, it worked, thanks for the heads up
[07:24] <learnfromscratch> how do i config make to report only errors ?
[07:27] <anatole> hi, i have a strange problem with my new comp
[07:27] <anatole> my ubuntu can't see the cdrom drives... nothing in /dev
[07:27] <anatole> and the livecd says that no cdrom drives can be found
[07:28] <Mabus06> live cd says no cdrom drives can be found? that sounds rather screwy
[07:28] <anatole> yep... funny
[07:28] <Russel-Athletic_> one question: is the ubuntu distributed version of alsa capable of using jackplug out of the box?
[07:28] <Mabus06> you'd think if that were the case you'd have a hard time even getting that error message
[07:28] <Mabus06> But not to give you false hope, anatole... no idea
[07:32] <AlexO> I just removed my bottem panal by mistake, how do I get it back?
[07:32] <smo> I don't think there's any magic 'undo' function, but you can create a new one by right-clicking the top panel .. you'll have to drag it into place and populate it yourself tho
[07:34] <sladen> AlexO: was the a big question box saying ''are you sure?''
[07:34] <sladen> AlexO: if not, can you file it as a bug/suggestion thatthere really ought to be
[07:35] <AlexO> ok i figured it out, nevermind : P
[07:37] <slashx1896> Hey all
[07:37] <disposable_mike> hey slash
[07:38] <slashx1896> HEy
[07:38] <slashx1896> can u play
[07:38] <slashx1896> Halo 1 on ubuntu?
[07:38] <slashx1896> if i install it
[07:38] <disposable_mike> not unless it's under VMWare or a similar emulation environment, somethign that I would highly not recommended
[07:38] <disposable_mike> as far as i know, there's not a native linux version
[07:39] <slashx1896> :\
[07:39] <slashx1896> i need to dual boot..
[07:39] <Zen> Help--Need to install the gcc package using version 3.4 instead of 4.0
[07:39] <slashx1896> that means i have to go lookin for my windows CD
[07:39] <slashx1896> :\
[07:39] <kentoq> Evenings.
[07:39] <kentoq> Is there anyone available to help me with mounting maybe.? :D
[07:39] <jgrieves> Zen sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[07:39] <ernstp> It could work in wine which is not an emulation environment. if you have an nvidia card at least
[07:39] <jgrieves> then export CC=gcc-3.4 before compiling
[07:39] <ernstp> slashx1896: that was to you btw
[07:40] <jgrieves> Zen then export CC=gcc-3.4 before compiling
[07:40] <Zen> jgrieves, how?
[07:40] <oga> what graphic server(err. something like that) is used in ubuntu? Xorg?
[07:40] <jgrieves> Zen you are compiling correct?
[07:40] <slashx1896> ernstp: i have nvidia
[07:40] <Zen> jgrieves, I need to compile a video driver--requires gcc 3.4 since kernel was made with 3.4
[07:40] <slashx1896> card
[07:41] <jgrieves> Zen you have already gotten build-essential?
[07:41] <jgrieves> oga Xorg
[07:41] <Zen> jgrieves, no--will do so
[07:41] <slashx1896> ernstp: well i remember having it when i was on xp.. do i still have it that i installed ubntu?
[07:41] <oga> jgrieves, okay. what is used in freebsd?
[07:41] <disposable_mike> slashnx1896: your nvidia card?
[07:42] <jgrieves> orga X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.2
[07:42] <jgrieves> 
[07:42] <Zen> jgrieves, I do now.
[07:42] <slashx1896> i remember downloading something for nvidia i dunno if i lost it
[07:42] <jgrieves> Zen sudo apt-get gcc-3.4
[07:42] <Zen> jgrieves, I've got it already
[07:42] <jgrieves> orga search freebsd
[07:42] <disposable_mike> i think jgrieves is asking if you have an nvidia video card
[07:42] <kandoora_> what's the difference between linux and BSD
[07:42] <jgrieves> Zen in terminal navigate to source
[07:42] <slashx1896> i think i do..
[07:42] <disposable_mike> that was meant for slash
[07:42] <Zen> jgrieves, where is it stored
[07:43] <slashx1896> how do i find out :P i dont remember
[07:43] <ernstp> slashx1896: did you have halo on xp? but installed linux now?
[07:43] <jgrieves> Zen where did oy udownload thesource
[07:43] <slashx1896> no
[07:43] <slashx1896> and when i installed linux, i detled my windows xp parittion
[07:43] <Zen> jgrieves, It is a .run file that does it automatically (source is compressed in the .run)
[07:43] <jgrieves> Zen in terminal type "export CC=gcc-3.4
[07:43] <ernstp> slashx1896: ok. but you have an Nvidia card in you box?
[07:44] <slashx1896> ernstp: i think how do i check if i do? w/o opening anything
[07:44] <skierkegaard> can anyone help me with rhythmbox?
[07:44] <aonicc> does anyone have experience with x server problems?
[07:44] <ernstp> slashx1896: w/o opening anything? huh?
[07:44] <slashx1896> my box
[07:44] <slashx1896> lol
[07:44] <slashx1896> like is there somewhere i can go where it tells me info on my video card and stuff
[07:44] <Zen> jgrieves, I should be good to go then?
[07:45] <ernstp> skierkegaard: apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse if you have multiverse enabled
[07:45] <skierkegaard> is it enabled by default?
[07:45] <ernstp> skierkegaard: ...is probably the answer to you troubles
[07:46] <ernstp> slashx1896: yeah, lot's of places
[07:46] <jgrieves> Zen try to run it
[07:46] <slashx1896> how
[07:46] <jgrieves> ok
[07:47] <ernstp> slashx1896: open a terminal and run lspci for example
[07:47] <slashx1896> im pritty sure i have nvidia but i wanna double chck,
[07:48] <slashx1896> i dont se anything about video
[07:48] <ernstp> skierkegaard: nope, it's not. it contains stuff ubuntu can't redistribute by default (license issues)
[07:48] <skierkegaard> oh
[07:48] <ernstp> slashx1896: Display controller?
[07:48] <slashx1896> ernstp: nope,
[07:48] <ernstp> skierkegaard: like mp3 codecs. guessing that's what you have trouble with?
[07:48] <skierkegaard> i get "unable to lock the administration directory"
[07:49] <skierkegaard> when i run your command
[07:49] <ernstp> slashx1896: VGA ... ?
[07:49] <slashx1896> ya
[07:49] <ernstp> skierkegaard: ah, right. type that again but with sudo first
[07:49] <slashx1896> VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV25 [GeForce4 Ti 420 0]  (rev a3)
[07:49] <skierkegaard> i have trouble with internet streams
[07:49] <slashx1896> so yeah ido
[07:49] <skierkegaard> .pls files
[07:49] <ernstp> skierkegaard: or start synaptic, that's much easier
[07:50] <skierkegaard> its listed in the synaptic?
[07:50] <ernstp> skierkegaard: can you play mp3's?
[07:50] <ernstp> skierkegaard: yeah, everything's there
[07:50] <skierkegaard> i guess i have not tried
[07:50] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> what's the command for debian to ubtuntu?
[07:50] <smo> Is there any way to convert an openoffice document to doc/rtf/html/txt without X?
[07:50] <Belutz> how to play .3gp files on linux?
[07:50] <ernstp> MrB|zzZZzzZZzz: what does that mean?
[07:51] <ernstp> Belutz: try totem-xine
[07:51] <jgrieves> changing sources.list to breezy
[07:51] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> debian to ubutnu, there is a command to switch to ubuntu with a debina install
[07:51] <jgrieves> but this is not recommended
[07:51] <Belutz> ernstp, ok, thanks
[07:51] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> debian*
[07:51] <smo> MrB|zzZZzzZZzz: I believe there's something in the release notes for warty, converting debian woody to ubuntu warty.  I'm not sure it's been tried/tested/recommended with any later releases
[07:51] <jgrieves> MrB|zzZZzzZZzz there is documentation on it
[07:51] <jgrieves> !debian
[07:51] <ubotu> Debian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded"; see http://www.debian.org Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9.  Debian and Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/
[07:51] <ernstp> MrB|zzZZzzZZzz: there's no such command.
[07:51] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> yes, they told me yesterday
[07:51] <ernstp> MrB|zzZZzzZZzz: you could do it if you're good. but it's not a single command
[07:51] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> in this channel
[07:52] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> it was 1 command
[07:52] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> apt-get somehting
[07:52] <ernstp> MrB|zzZZzzZZzz: cool. tell me if you find out.
[07:52] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> sure thing
[07:52] <jgrieves> ernstp i have seen people recommend changign sources.list
[07:52] <jgrieves> ernstp not sure how well it turned out :)
[07:53] <rudiz> try googling it
[07:53] <ernstp> jgrieves: should work if you haven't got too much installed... and know how to solve conflicts with apt
[07:53] <Niomi> how do i restart/reload the synaptics touchpad driver from CLI?
[07:53] <jgrieves> ernstp yes
[07:53] <skierkegaard> ernstp, im not finding anything on rhythmbox in synaptic
[07:53] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> i have the changes need for source.list
[07:53] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> i just need the command, lol
[07:53] <jgrieves> MrB|zzZZzzZZzz apt-get update
[07:53] <jgrieves> MrB|zzZZzzZZzz apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:54] <jgrieves> MrB|zzZZzzZZzz pray
[07:54] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> that's it
[07:54] <jgrieves> :)
[07:54] <smo> changing your sources.list and apt-get'n ubuntu-desktop may get somewhere close .. or it may give your machine multiple-personality disorder.  I'm not sure I'd want to discover which
[07:54] <ernstp> skierkegaard: why are you looking for that? :-P you should be looking for gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[07:54] <Izzy> Does anyone have a few minutes to point me in the right direction to learn how to upgrade my php4 and mysql 4 to 5? (Im a very new user, sorry)
[07:54] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> well, i have debina and knoppix, if all goes wrong, i can reinstall
[07:54] <jgrieves> MrB|zzZZzzZZzz i believe this has been addressed on the fourms
[07:54] <skierkegaard> oh
[07:54] <jgrieves> MrB|zzZZzzZZzz not sure if that post is around
[07:54] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> i know, i posted it on the forums
[07:54] <jgrieves> MrB|zzZZzzZZzz may provide common depedency or package errors
[07:54] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> ubuntuforums.org right?
[07:54] <jgrieves> y
[07:54] <ernstp> skierkegaard: gstreamer is something like quicktime. that's what really plays your music
[07:55] <ernstp> Izzy: try #mysql ...?
[07:55] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> i ordered 5 ubtunu cds, but someoen sdaid they take months to get here
[07:55] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> and i live in memphis TN, so,. heh
[07:55] <skierkegaard> i found it, installing now
[07:56] <Izzy> ernstp thought it was an apt-get type thing in ubuntu or something?
[07:56] <jgrieves> MrB|zzZZzzZZzz heh
[07:56] <ernstp> skierkegaard: then you had multiverse enabled, good. pice of cake
[07:57] <skierkegaard> thanks, ill give it another try in a bit then
[07:57] <Seveas> Mr_Milenko, 4 to 6 weeks...
[07:57] <Seveas> MrB|zzZZzzZZzz*
[07:57] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> ernstp
[07:57] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=101098
[07:57] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> go there for the command i was looking for
[07:57] <ernstp> Izzy: uh, sure. or you could search for mysql in synaptic
[07:57] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> he explaines how to do it
[07:57] <crimsun> MrB: it really depends on the queue. Sometimes they arrive quickly.
[07:57] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> what does?
[07:57] <ernstp> MrB|zzZZzzZZzz: mm, I understand now. but that involves many steps, like changing your sources list. that's why I didn't understand you
[07:57] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> no cds burner
[07:58] <psusi> some people still don't have cd burners in this day and age?
[07:58] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> i do, no cds
[07:58] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> no money to buy cds either.
[07:58] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> heh
[07:58] <psusi> they are like $0.30 each
[07:58] <lotia> is acl support enabled for all filesystems in breezy?
[07:59] <lotia> the default breezy kernel
[07:59] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> think this will mess up my KDE?
[07:59] <smo> psusi, I usually manage to hand out atleast as many as I order .. a professionally done package makes a lot of difference creating a first impression  (software on a cdr witha  handwritten label makes most people think it's stolen)
[07:59] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> lol
[07:59] <psusi> smo: hrm... good point
[07:59] <psusi> smo: but that's why you explain to them that it is FREE ;)
[08:00] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> heh, stolen pr0n is free to
[08:00] <ernstp> psusi: everyone don't get that actually :-)
[08:00] <psusi> no... free as in freedom, not free as in stollen or free beer
[08:00] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> you mean open-source?
[08:00] <psusi> aye
[08:00] <Alex> open source pr0n? o_O
[08:01] <psusi> lol
[08:01] <oga> yeah, everybody can contribute
[08:01] <oga> haha
[08:01] <crimsun> lotia: for all but nfs v3, yes.
[08:01] <lotia> thanks crimsun
[08:02] <slashx1896> well i dont have halo with me atm, when i get the cd il come back
[08:02] <slashx1896> bye al;
[08:02] <ernstp> Alex: well if the source, is open...
[08:03] <Roey> Alex:  "you're not a fully compliant porn actress, good bye"
[08:03] <Seveas> take this to #ubuntu-offtopic please - #ubuntu is a support channel
[08:04] <Roey> does Xen run on Ubuntu
[08:04] <Roey> ?
[08:04] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> gah
[08:04] <Roey> Does Xen run on Ubuntu with kernel 2.6.14.3 at all, anyone know?
[08:04] <Roey> I'm so disillusioned with it.
[08:04] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> how do i edit sources.list without being in root?
[08:04] <Roey> sudo
[08:04] <Roey> use sudo.
[08:04] <Seveas> Roey, you need a homegrown kernel
[08:04] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> i don't know how
[08:04] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> form console
[08:04] <Roey> Seveas:  I don't know if Xen patches exist for 2.6.14.3 though
[08:04] <Roey> Seveas:  do they?
[08:04] <Seveas> MrB|zzZZzzZZzz, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:04] <Seveas> Roey, -ENOCLUE; never tried xen
[08:04] <Roey> gnomefreak:  ;)
[08:05] <Roey> Seveas:  got it, thanks
[08:05] <Roey> gnomefreak:  try KDE
[08:05] <TTilus> MrB|zzZZzzZZzz: you dont want to be able to edit your sources.list without having root privileges
[08:05] <Roey> gnomefreak:  you'll hate gnome with a passion then, too.
[08:05] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> sudo command not found
[08:05] <TTilus> MrB|zzZZzzZZzz: sudoedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:05] <smo> Can somebody recommend an openoffice channel? my client appears to be truncating /list to 12 characters, so I have a list of several "#openoffice." to pick from
[08:05] <Seveas> #openoffice.org
[08:06] <smo> I should have guessed the obvious :/  thanks
[08:06] <Seveas> :)
[08:06] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> sudoedit: command not found
[08:06] <Seveas> MrB|zzZZzzZZzz, are you on an Ubuntu system?
[08:06] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> no, i am trinyg to switch to a ubuntu system
[08:06] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> lol
[08:06] <Seveas> If so, how did you manage to mess it up
[08:06] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> useing apt-get
[08:07] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> from debian
[08:07] <Seveas> right, cross-grading debian to ubuntu takes a lot of knowledge
[08:07] <TTilus> MrB|zzZZzzZZzz: not recommended i think
[08:07] <Seveas> it's neither easy nor recommended or supported
[08:07] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> not really, it expline in 3 steps, heh
[08:07] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> explained*
[08:07] <gnomefreak> Roey, gnome doesnt resemble windows at all
[08:07] <TTilus> MrB|zzZZzzZZzz: you are way better of by installing ubuntu from scratch
[08:07] <BadMackTuck> has anyone in here gotten cedega to work? what was that experience like? i found the wiki im just looking for a testimonial
[08:07] <Seveas> MrB|zzZZzzZZzz, that's nonsense
[08:08] <Roey> gnomefreak:  it has its own issues.
[08:08] <Seveas> Debian -> Ubuntu was only supported for woody->warty
[08:08] <TTilus> MrB|zzZZzzZZzz: transfering config should not be major PITA because of common inheritage
[08:08] <Seveas> and it's now a PITA
[08:08] <crimsun> you can cross-grade from sarge to breezy
[08:08] <Seveas> crimsun, but not without knowledge of apt/dpkg
[08:08] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> i am going to breezy
[08:09] <Seveas> woody->wart was relatively easy
[08:09] <crimsun> Seveas: true
[08:09] <gnomefreak> Roey, i havent had any issues with it i have been using linux alone for 8 months give or take and had to install windows for school :(
[08:09] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> and i know how to use apt-get
[08:09] <Seveas> MrB|zzZZzzZZzz, that's not nearly enough
[08:09] <Roey> gnomefreak:  well look you can learn a lot from Windows to
[08:09] <Roey> too
[08:10] <Lewix> I've downloaded the dvd iso of ubuntu,burn and check the image with md5sum, boot my laptop toshiba M45-S169 with it but when I type enter , it loads up some files and the screen goes black. I've been trying to find a solution for 4days now but nobody came with a solution,even in forums (I'm a newbie)
[08:10] <Roey> gnomefreak:  It makes me happy that you're happy
[08:10] <czr_> there's nothing worth learning in windows since you're knowledge will become obsolete in 3 years
[08:10] <czr_> your even
[08:10] <Roey> czr_:  er
[08:10] <Seveas> Lewix, acpi=off at the boot prompt
[08:10] <Roey> czr_:  "transition support services"
[08:10] <TTilus> Lewix: do other distros work?  tried any (other) live-cd distros?
[08:10] <Lewix> knoppix
[08:10] <Lewix> works
[08:11] <czr_> Roey, well, that was just my opinion based on low-level windows stuff
[08:11] <Seveas> czr_, this is neither a linux advocacy nor a windows bashing channel...
[08:11] <Kyral> Knoppix is the Admin's swiss army hammer
[08:11] <Roey> czr_:  don't forget that MS thinks ahead of time of bolstering the US tech economy by creating entire markets to solve Windows' problems.
[08:11] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> can ubuntu fit on 1 cdrw?
[08:11] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> i may be able to burn it, heh
[08:11] <Kyral> MrB|zzZZzzZZzz: yes
[08:11] <Roey> czr_:  that sentence came out mangled but still
[08:11] <Seveas> MrB|zzZZzzZZzz, yes
[08:11] <czr_> Seveas, agreed, no one answered my question though which was related to ubuntu :-)
[08:11] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> what iso do i need?
[08:11] <Seveas> czr_, the question being?
[08:11] <gnomefreak> MrB|zzZZzzZZzz, yes
[08:11] <Kyral> MrB|zzZZzzZZzz: depends on what you want
[08:11] <TTilus> Lewix: check differences in kernel config and boot params
[08:11] <Lewix> Seveas: acpi=off?
[08:12] <Seveas> MrB|zzZZzzZZzz, the install iso for your architecture
[08:12] <czr_> the question being which package to look for the online ext2 resizing tool in ubuntu
[08:12] <gnomefreak> sorry i have lag :(
[08:12] <Lewix> TTilus: I'm really a newbie
[08:12] <TTilus> Lewix: boot parameters
[08:12] <TTilus> Lewix: go google
[08:12] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> is the install cd bootable?
[08:12] <Kyral> czr_: ext2resize
[08:12] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> or do i need lfoppies?
[08:12] <Seveas> czr_, online ext2 resizing? afaik that's not possible and you have to unmount
[08:12] <Kyral> MrB|zzZZzzZZzz: yes
[08:12] <Seveas> MrB|zzZZzzZZzz, it's bootable
[08:12] <Opeth> i cant boot the cd
[08:12] <czr_> Seveas, I've done it many times on RHEL4, it's possible
[08:12] <gnomefreak> MrB|zzZZzzZZzz, install cd is bootable
[08:12] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> does it have a partionign tool in the installer, becasue i will need it
[08:12] <Lewix> I've tried vga=771 but instead og going black it loads up files and an erro message appears
[08:13] <Seveas> czr_, what's the command?
[08:13] <czr_> ext2resize on RHEL4
[08:13] <czr_> Kyral, which package does it come in?
[08:13] <Talky> Hello guys!
[08:13] <czr_> apt-cache search draws blanks for me
[08:13] <Kyral> czr_: that IS the package
[08:13] <Lewix> TTilus: trust me, I've been on google for 4days
[08:13] <Seveas> apt-file search is running here
[08:13] <czr_> hmm. in universe?
[08:13] <gnomefreak> czr_, RHEL4 uses ext2 ubuntu breezy uses ext3 :)
[08:13] <Seveas> yeah, package is called ext2resize
[08:13] <TTilus> czr_: was it a supported and recommended way of doing it or were you just lucky  :)
[08:13] <Kyral> czr_: yes
[08:13] <BadMackTuck> nobody has experience with cedega?
[08:13] <Seveas> gnomefreak, ext3 == ext2+journal
[08:13] <Kyral> BadMackTuck: I do
[08:13] <czr_> gnomefreak, ext3 =ext2 + journalling
[08:14] <Seveas> !info ext2resize
[08:14] <ubotu> ext2resize: (an ext2 filesystem resizer), section universe/admin, is extra. Version: 1.1.19-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 200 kB, Installed size: 484 kB
[08:14] <Kyral> ext3 == ext2++ :D
[08:14] <Seveas> universe indeed
[08:14] <Lewix> error message saying that I didn't set up my xserver
[08:14] <gnomefreak> ah
[08:14] <czr_> TTilus, supported and recommended. there's even a graphical tool for it in rhel4
[08:14] <Talky> i want to know how can i authenticate through ISA proxy
[08:14] <djm62> Kyral: you mean ++ext2?
[08:14] <Kyral> djm62: lol
[08:14] <TTilus> Lewix: definitely, go google "linux boot prompt howto"
[08:14] <Get> how to convert ogg -> mp3?
[08:15] <BadMackTuck> kyral, how well does it work and do you use it a lot
[08:15] <TTilus> Get: why?
[08:15] <psusi> Get: you don't want to
[08:15] <slashx1896> Hey, how do i burn a mp3 cd? (so i can get like 100 songs on 1 cd) on nero u have a choice for normal audio cd adn a mp3 cd how do i do it on linud
[08:15] <gouchi> Hi
[08:15] <slashx1896> linux
[08:15] <Kyral> BadMackTuck: "How"?
[08:15] <gouchi> does someone succeed to get worky labtec pro webcam ?
[08:15] <Kyral> BadMackTuck: Its basically Wine patched with DX
[08:15] <gnomefreak> Lewix,  run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to fix you x-server config
[08:15] <psusi> slashx1896: just drag and drop the files to the cd
[08:15] <TTilus> slashx1896: data cd
[08:15] <Kyral> BadMackTuck: but you need to pay for it
[08:15] <czr_> actually I remembered incorrectly. it's called ext2online in RHEL
[08:15] <Get> psusi, I need it to my mp3-player
[08:15] <gouchi> I try with gnomemeeting but it freezes :(
[08:15] <gouchi> running Breezy
[08:16] <slashx1896> TTIlus: so just put all of them on a data cd (this is to transfer songs from my computer to a dif one)
[08:16] <BadMackTuck> Kyral: yeah i figured id have to pay for it. but is it worth it?
[08:16] <TTilus> slashx1896: yes
[08:16] <czr_> it's fairly new, LVM2/dm-supporting version came only in RHEL4u2 (some months ago)
[08:16] <slashx1896> kk
[08:16] <psusi> Get: what kind of mp3 player do you have?  most support ogg these days, but you might have to upgrade the software in it... you will loose quality going from ogg to mp3
[08:16] <TTilus> slashx1896: "mp3 cd" is just that simple thing
[08:16] <TTilus> Get: bad player  :)
[08:16] <Kyral> BadMackTuck: In my experiance it so far plays Jedi Academy, Half-Life, and Need For Speed Underground 2 at native
[08:16] <Talky> Can anybody answer my query
[08:16] <djm62> psusi: they do?
[08:16] <slashx1896> TTilus: where do i drag them to again? i
[08:17] <slashx1896> i forgot
[08:17] <BadMackTuck> Kyral: good to know, rumor has it hl2 works pretty well, and if i can get that, eve and warcraft 3 working then i should be set. thank you
[08:17] <slashx1896> psusi: where do i drag them? ///??? i forgot :\
[08:18] <jdier> talky - what is query?
[08:18] <Talky> i want to know how can i authenticate through ISA proxy
[08:18] <slashx1896> nvm
[08:18] <slashx1896> burn:///
[08:18] <Talky> jdier
[08:18] <hmpedersen> hi
[08:18] <czr_> talky, use a browser that knows how to talk NTLM
[08:19] <hmpedersen> How would i go about finding libqt3c102-mt ?
[08:19] <czr_> kyral, thanks, found it. it contains the ext2online tool
[08:19] <Talky> czr_, you know that there is ISA firewall client in MS... think there might be similar thing in ubuntu
[08:19] <kemik> !tell hmpedersen about skype
[08:20] <czr_> should probably compare whether RH has done something to theirs since they actually support it
[08:20] <Kyral> czr_: np, this is what we are here for
[08:20] <czr_> ISA firewall client for ubuntu? hehe
[08:20] <Talky> no?
[08:20] <czr_> microsoft doesn't support linux
[08:20] <Talky> lol i am asking about vice versa :)
[08:20] <Kyral> Its called us reverse engineering them :D
[08:21] <hmpedersen> kemik: Thanx
[08:21] <MWettendorff> is here any one here that can be my teacher om how to operate a MySQl?
[08:21] <Kyral> MWettendorff: MySQL is a very big thing...
[08:21] <czr_> talky, I've never ran across any info about microsoft releasing any info about their implementation
[08:21] <czr_> although I haven't looked for couple of years, I don't support MS-systems anymore
[08:21] <kemik> hmpedersen:  we've all been in skype-hell ;)
[08:22] <MWettendorff> Kyral: i know.. but i need to learn how to make a DB and uses for that.
[08:22] <kemik> to install mysql in ubuntu is no biggie
[08:22] <Talky> well i want to connect through ISA server installed on our Web Server through unbuntu on my PC
[08:22] <Talky> czr_
[08:22] <slashx1896> So i drag all my music files to burn:/// and then it will play them on my other computer?
[08:22] <Kyral> MWettendorff: I'm taking a class right now lol. I have to finish my DB actually
[08:22] <bodkin> hi guys why is my ipp service on port 631 activated every 2 to 3 seconds
[08:22] <kemik> and setting up a basic webserver with php&mysql isnt a biggie either
[08:23] <czr_> talky, I'm sorry for you :-). You need to setup ISA so that it will allow other clients than just ISA firewall clients trough it
[08:23] <Kyral> bodkin: I believe that is CUPS>
[08:23] <djm62> slashx1896: are you burning a data CD with mp3s on it
[08:23] <czr_> Talky, try googling, maybe it will work better
[08:23] <kemik> MWettendorff:  do you know anything about SQL ?
[08:23] <slashx1896> Yes, i wanna transfer it to my other computer running windows XP
[08:23] <MWettendorff> Kyral: LoL. then teach me teacher :)
[08:23] <bodkin> tks  ow can i stop it every 3 seconds
[08:23] <djm62> slashx1896: then drag to burn:/// and burn away
[08:23] <slashx1896> alrite
[08:23] <slashx1896> so i did it rite
[08:23] <Talky> ok thnx czr_ :).. i'll do that..
[08:24] <czr_> bodkin, probably some graphical printer monitoring tool that is checking the status of your printers?
[08:24] <evian> I'm trying to get ubuntu going for my dad, who has a lucent winmodem. Does breezy have the ltmodem driver in restricted modules like it says it does for hoary on the wiki? Because I can't seem to find it.
[08:24] <AIV> good day everyone
[08:24] <MWettendorff> Kemik: i have no idear what im doing.. i doing some webpage test, and they need a DB
[08:24] <slashx1896> wtf its saying enter blank cd when one is entered
[08:24] <bodkin> ok tks for the quick reply will go off and check tks again
[08:25] <evian> This is the wiki entry: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WinModemLucent?highlight=%28lucent%29
[08:25] <djm62> evian: apt-cache search ltmodem gives packages
[08:25] <gnomefreak> isnt there a mysql wiki out there?
[08:25] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> can one of you help me with the installtion?, i can't use the deafult installtion
[08:25] <evian> ok I'll try that djm62 thanks
[08:25] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> i have to keep ubuntu + kde under 2GB, heh
[08:27] <slashx1896> it wont let me burn
[08:27] <slashx1896> whats the maxiumum number of songs i can put? on the dat cd
[08:27] <manubuntu> hey every body ... i m looking for a cool programm to cut videos ... KIno always crashes!!!! :(.. some one have an idear ????
[08:28] <collinder> can someone help me... i have 2 monitors that i want to work and the "secondary" one is the only one that works... and to boot... i cant figure out how to get nvidia to get along with ubuntu...
[08:29] <evian> ok it says that linux-restricted-modules does contain ltmodem and that it is installed, but if I do "sudo modprobe lt_modem" like the wiki entry says it gives "FATAL: Module lt_modem not found."
[08:30] <zandaa> !mpr
[08:30] <ubotu> zandaa: Syntax error in line 1
[08:30] <zandaa> !mp3
[08:30] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:30] <slashx1896> Hello anyone? its saying m cd cant hold 926 MiB
[08:30] <manubuntu> some one knows good programm to cut videos ..??? kino always crashes
[08:31] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> cds don't hold 926mb
[08:31] <Taa5i> !megaraid
[08:31] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, Taa5i
[08:31] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> the hold 700MB
[08:31] <Taa5i> !netraid
[08:31] <ubotu> Taa5i: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[08:31] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> you need a dvd
[08:31] <Taa5i> !raid
[08:31] <ubotu> it has been said that raid is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto
[08:31] <collinder> !nvidia
[08:31] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[08:31] <collinder> !nvidia for 5.1
[08:32] <AIV> how do I check my version of Ubuntu?
[08:32] <collinder> !dual screen
[08:32] <ubotu> collinder: I give up, what is it?
[08:32] <AIV> is there some way maybe in a term window
[08:32] <slashx1896> ugh with nero i could make a 1000 song mp3 disc.. with this it wont even let me make a 187 song cd
[08:32] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> CDs don't hold 927MB
[08:32] <gnomefreak> anyone have the webpage with the tar for links2?
[08:32] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> you need aDVD
[08:33] <Falstius> slashx1896: you like your music really fuzzy?
[08:33] <slashx1896> when i was running windows XP i had 100s of songs on  1 mp3 cd that only my mp3 player and computers could read..
[08:33] <czr_> slashx1896, mp3 can be coded at various bitrates. with 1000 songs per CD, the bitrate was really small -> small files -> more of them on CD
[08:33] <evian> AIV: I think "cat /proc/version"
[08:33] <czr_> the 700 MB for compressed data is really the max (more or less)
[08:34] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> all my mp3 are maximum bitrate, heh
[08:34] <collinder> !!monitors
[08:34] <ubotu> collinder: I give up, what is it?
[08:34] <collinder> !monitors
[08:34] <ubotu> collinder: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[08:34] <collinder> yes
[08:34] <collinder> all the time
[08:34] <slashx1896> then how come using nero on windows xp it let me add 200 songs to a CD but it wont using this, is there nero for linux?
[08:34] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> lol.
[08:34] <AIV> evian, thank you
[08:34] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> and i thought i was not smart with linux
[08:34] <Belutz_zzz> slashx1896, there's a nerolinux but i prefer gnomebaker
[08:35] <levander> slashx1896: yeah, there's nero for linux, there's a 30-day demo, but then it costs $20
[08:35] <collinder> thats an oxymoron
[08:35] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> Can anyone help me with install options?, i'm trying to get the most minmal ubuntu_+kde install?
[08:35] <Falstius> you could maybe run your OEM nero on Wine ...
[08:35] <TTilus> slashx1896: crappy quality
[08:35] <slashx1896> the nero cd that came with my cd brner wont work on linux?
[08:35] <Kyral> MrB|zzZZzzZZzz: do a server install and then sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:36] <Kyral> slashx1896: Nero on Linux sucks
[08:36] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> yes, but how is this done? heh
[08:36] <Kyral> slashx1896: k3b is the best
[08:36] <slashx1896> where can i get it
[08:36] <levander> slashx1896: plus, mp3 is an outdated formatted, they've updated it with mp3pro, but you have to pay for that format
[08:36] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> i am too new to undertsand what you said, i do know how to do the apt-get part though
[08:36] <TTilus> slashx1896: are you sure you are putting 200 songs on CD, not DVD?
[08:36] <Kyral> slashx1896: sudo apt-get install k3b
[08:36] <slashx1896> i had over 100 songs on a CD using nero and mp3 format when i was runnign windows XP
[08:36] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> @me?
[08:36] <collinder> ttilus: i have tons of mp3 cds with well over 20 songs on them
[08:37] <Kyral> MrB|zzZZzzZZzz: at the prompt instead of hitting enter, type in "server" and hit return
[08:37] <levander> slashx1896: 200 songs on a CD is a little much unless they are shit for quality (even shit for MP3 quality)
[08:37] <lwizardl> slashx1896: what was the bitrate of them i'm sure you can fit that many as 128kbit
[08:37] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> heh, i have hundreds of mp3 aswell, but you can't lsiten to them unless you take them off the cd and play them, won't work in a cd player
[08:37] <collinder> ttilus: i mean 200
[08:37] <slashx1896> i dont remember
[08:37] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> server and return? that's it?
[08:37] <Kyral> MrB|zzZZzzZZzz: yah
[08:37] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> then i apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[08:37] <slashx1896> i didnt have e xactly 200 i had a lil less, but it said i could add more then what i had
[08:38] <Kyral> MrB|zzZZzzZZzz: it will drop you to a command line
[08:38] <levander> MrB|zzZZzzZZzz: some CD players are designed to read MP3's off CD
[08:38] <TTilus> collinder: size in megs per piece is?  bitrate is?
[08:38] <Kyral> MrB|zzZZzzZZzz: then sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:38] <beattls> hello all
[08:38] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> ok, after that, i am going to come back heh, becasue i know i will have to reconfig everyhtign again
[08:38] <czr_> Kyral, ok, next question. seems that ubuntu kernel doesn't have the resizing support in ext2
[08:38] <collinder> ttilus: i dunno i very rarely would read what i was burning... i just download anything burn it all and then erase... i sit at a tattoo shop all day and download music
[08:38] <czr_> Kyral, so I cannot actually do online resizing at all
[08:38] <Kyral> czr_: Bingo
[08:39] <Kyral> ;P
[08:39] <levander> slashx1896: counting disc space from the number of songs is stupid.  Songs typically take from 3 MB to 10 MB to store, depending upon the length of the song, and the quality it is recorded at
[08:39] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> Kyral, you wqill be on for a long time?
[08:39] <collinder> ttilus: im the guy at compusa buying all the cd-rs
[08:39] <czr_> Kyral, you could have warned me :-)
[08:39] <Kyral> czr_: Unless you use LVM
[08:39] <czr_> Kyral, I'm on LVM
[08:39] <Kyral> czr_: then use GParted
[08:39] <czr_> ext2online: resize failed while in kernel
[08:39] <beattls> i'm new to linux and ubunto , i have tested a linux thing in the past but it failed and i had to buy a new hard disk , but i'm going to give it a new try with ubuntu
[08:39] <czr_> Kyral, nah, I need to do it online
[08:39] <collinder> ttilus: besides nero changes the file for you when you burn to mp3
[08:39] <Kyral> MrB|zzZZzzZZzz: Yah but I may not be paying attention
[08:39] <Khisanth> beattls: you could try a livecd first
[08:39] <levander> slashx1896: maybe you have one big song that takes 50 MB, and you've just eliminated space for ten songs
[08:39] <Kyral> MrB|zzZZzzZZzz: I have schoolwork to do lol
[08:39] <Falstius> beattls, if you install linux and it "fails and you have to buy a new disk", just send me the old one ;)
[08:39] <Khisanth> beattls: no need to touch teh HD
[08:39] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> hrm
[08:40] <beattls> so i have ordered a free ubuntu cd on the site , but is it possible to order the 'live cd' ?
[08:40] <Kyral> czr_: why can't you umount it
[08:40] <obscurite> Anyone running Ubuntu on the Dell/Intel SATA chipset for their desktops? My uncle has a Dimension 8400 and I got him thinking about installing Ubuntu :)
[08:40] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> well, i'll be bakc in abotu 2 hours
[08:40] <TTilus> mmm, gotta rething, i had some tweak, 200 is possible with reasonable sound quality
[08:40] <Kyral> beattls: it comes in a two disc pack
[08:40] <Kyral> beattls: an Install and a Live
[08:40] <czr_> Kyral, because it is a live system? what is the reason for online tools anyway if you cannot use them online :--)
[08:40] <AIV> is thre a PDF maker for linux?  that's free?
[08:40] <TTilus> with vbr and not-too-long songs
[08:40] <Kyral> czr_: OpenOffice can export to PDF
[08:40] <Falstius> AIV, there is and it should be installed by default.
[08:40] <AIV> not just a reader, but something that is like acrobat, that converts to PDF
[08:40] <Taa5i> Has anyone been able to acquire a patched megaraid module with support for older NetRaid cards please?
[08:40] <Inc> quick question.
[08:40] <levander> beattls: why not just download the live cd and the install cd?  takes weeks to get them free from ubuntu
[08:40] <AIV> ok
[08:40] <collinder> ttilus: i have discographys on one cd-r, millencolin, lagwagon, nofx, frank zappa the who, pink floyd, herbie handcock... etc... herbies on 2 cds he has over 50 albums
[08:40] <czr_> Kyral, wrong address :-)
[08:40] <slashx1896> Nope..
[08:41] <Inc> ok I was using ubuntu in vmware player
[08:41] <beattls> so if you have ordered it you get (if you ordered 5 cd's) 10 cd's ? 5 install cd's and 5 live cd's ?
[08:41] <Falstius> AIV, you can try to print to pdf or use the command "ps2pdf"
[08:41] <AIV> Falstius, thank you
[08:41] <TTilus> AIV: what your need is?
[08:41] <Kyral> czr_: Wait you are on a Live CD?
[08:41] <Inc> and what's the default password?
[08:41] <levander> AIV: openoffice makes pdf
[08:41] <czr_> AIV was looking for it
[08:41] <czr_> Kyral, nope
[08:41] <Kyral> Inc: Your userpass
[08:41] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> yes beattls
[08:41] <beattls> ok
[08:41] <czr_> kyral, 5.10 running nicely on LVM/ext3
[08:41] <Kyral> ubotu tell Inc about RootSudo
[08:41] <Inc> Kyral, facts are I never set up a password :)
[08:41] <beattls> btw , i have the 'old' harddisk to install ubuntu on
[08:41] <beattls> :
[08:41] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> old?
[08:41] <Kyral> Inc: ubotu just PM'd you a very nice link about it
[08:41] <TTilus> AIV: many progs can produce pdf and pretty much all produce ps which can be converted to pdf with ps2pdf
[08:41] <AIV> I was wanting to print the Wine users guide, if it were windows, I would print to my acrobat pdf generator
[08:41] <jdier> obsurite, try the live cd first.  That is what I did with my with my dell laptop.  once I knew the live cd was working I did the harddrive install.
[08:41] <Kyral> AIV: what format is it in?
[08:42] <intelikey> ubotu tell Inc about root
[08:42] <LabThug> I'm trying to install breezy on a Dell GX 280.  However, the install hangs after the prompt for hostname, does anyone know a workaround?
[08:42] <collinder> anyone know what i need to run 2 monitors?
[08:42] <Kyral> intelikey: I already did that lol
[08:42] <slashx1896> Hm  welll i dunno il just make 2 cds lol
[08:42] <AIV> Kyral
[08:42] <intelikey> Kyral not the same
[08:42] <AIV> Kyral, its a webpage
[08:42] <Falstius> collinder: 2 monitors and 2 video out ports?
[08:42] <Kyral> intelikey: its not?
[08:42] <beattls> is ubuntu easy to work with if you never worked with linux before ?
[08:42] <Kyral> intelikey: I always point people to RootSudo
[08:42] <czr_> beattls, yes, one of the easiest
[08:42] <TTilus> collinder: go google "xinerama linux"
[08:43] <AIV> HTML, I guess
[08:43] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz>  they say ubuntu is for the newbies [not in an offensive way] 
[08:43] <hmpedersen> Skype still doesnt work :(
[08:43] <levander> LabThug: you put the hostname in and hit enter i assume?
[08:43] <Inc> well it needs a password to get into package mananger
[08:43] <Inc> :)
[08:43] <Kyral> AIV: You want the HTML or the thing generated by the HTML ;P
[08:43] <collinder> flastius: 2 video cards, 1 nvidia and 1 voodoo 3 (yes i know how old it is)
[08:43] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> so yeah, that is why i am swithcign to it
[08:43] <LabThug> levander: yes
[08:43] <Kyral> Inc: Its your userpass
[08:43] <gnomefreak> Inc, your user password
[08:43] <Inc> Kyral, facts are I never set up a password
[08:43] <beattls> does somebody knows if you are living in Belgium of you have to pay some taxes for the cd's ?
[08:43] <levander> beattls: depends upon how much you know about computers and how much you're willing to learn, the learning curve isn't that bad, but there is one
[08:43] <Kyral> Inc: For your user?!
[08:43] <intelikey> Kyral that's fine.   but they have a little different information.  compare the two.
[08:43] <obscurite> jdier: can you confirm that the SATA support is working with the live CD?
[08:43] <Inc> I just turned on vmware
[08:43] <obscurite> jdier: I guess if the hdd mounts then you know it works?
[08:43] <Inc> Kyral, correct I just opened up ubuntu with vmware
[08:44] <levander> LabThug: what's on the screen when it hangs?
[08:44] <czr_> Kyral, I'm thinking. ext2online is from 2001/03/18. RH just got their version working couple of months ago. so they must be doing something really different. they also use LVM2 over dm
[08:44] <TTilus> AIV: print to file from you browser, result is ps-file which you convert to pdf using ps2pdf
[08:44] <Kyral> Inc: do you login to anything with VMWare?
[08:44] <Inc> no user password nothing
[08:44] <Inc> Kyral, no I don't
[08:44] <beattls> i want to learn much :)
[08:44] <Kyral> czr_: I normally umount my drives before screwing with them lol sorry
[08:44] <jdier> beattls, not only is it easy, but the forums are ridiculously newbie friendly.
[08:44] <LabThug> I have a blue background screen and a gray bar along the bottom
[08:44] <Kyral> Inc: then uhh.....
[08:44] <Inc> yeh :)
[08:44] <Kyral> Inc: I think you are Fubar'd
[08:44] <czr_> Kyral, backups exist anyway :-)
[08:44] <Inc> Kyral, well that sucks
[08:44] <TTilus> AIV: why would you like to convert webpage to pdf?
[08:45] <jdier> I have messed with fedora and knoppix, but this is like a whole different animal.  Almost NO headaches at all.
[08:45] <czr_> Kyral, but online ext resizing is really nice when it works :-)
[08:45] <Kyral> Inc: Normally you have a User account
[08:45] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> yeah,  so is the chat, if you go to #debian or soemthign though, your liekl;y to get smacked
[08:45] <collinder> ttilus: checking xinerama now, thanks
[08:45] <gnomefreak> Inc, did you install ubuntu?
[08:45] <Inc> gnomefreak, nope automated
[08:45] <Kyral> gnomefreak: its on VMWare it seems
[08:45] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> for askign 100% valid questions without searchign all 500 pages of google
[08:45] <obscurite> jdier: My mian concern is making sur ethe SATA support works before doing a full install, and I wonder if I can check with the live CD
[08:45] <Kyral> Inc: you need a user password
[08:45] <Inc> y ou guy's should try out vmware
[08:45] <jdier> obscurite, you are a bit beyond me, but from the Live CD you can test just about everything on the system
[08:45] <Inc> Kyral, well I don't have one.
[08:45] <Kyral> obscurite: for the most part it does
[08:45] <beattls> ok (ok there will be some angry guys here if i ask the question but ...) what's THE reason to use ubuntu(linux) in place of windows ?
[08:45] <Kyral> Inc: Then...uhh sorry....
[08:45] <levander> LabThug: you're going to have to give me more information, but i'm not quite sure how to get more information from the installation process myself, i've only done it once or twice.  I've just been using my system since then - not installing it.
[08:46] <AIV> TTilus, what I want wont work anyhow
[08:46] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> and when you aska  question abotu viedio cards, and they tell you to read the instalation manual
[08:46] <Inc> Kyral, try vmware sometime you will see
[08:46] <czr_> beattls, it works & is free
[08:46] <manubuntu> hello ... is there an alternative to Kino on ubuntu for cutting videos ???
[08:46] <Inc> vmware.com
[08:46] <obscurite> jdier, Kyral, thanks
[08:46] <Kyral> Inc: Yours is one of those .1% things that we never expect
[08:46] <LabThug> levander: ok, I'll try booting in expert mode
[08:46] <gnomefreak> Inc,  when it was installed who typed in the user account? name and password?
[08:46] <AIV> I just realized that what I'm looking is at is just links to seperate pages
[08:46] <Inc> thank you guy's for your help though
[08:46] <AIV> http://www.winehq.com/site/docs/wineusr-guide/index
[08:46] <Izzy> obscurite - knowing absolutely nothing abuot ubun-newbie, i just popped the disk in on a single drive sata system.. and it worked
[08:46] <Inc> gnomefreak, no one
[08:46] <Kyral> Inc: I have installed Ubuntu on VMWare to test my packages
[08:46] <TTilus> beattls: do you need arguments to convert somebody or do you want us to convert you?
[08:46] <Izzy> ubun-newbie = ubuntu (damn completer)
[08:46] <Kyral> Inc: You still have to put a password in
[08:46] <gr3ps> anyone tried enlightenment 16/17 with ubuntu
[08:46] <Inc> Kyral, well this is prepackaged
[08:46] <gr3ps> ?
[08:46] <beattls> but there are a lot of 'negative' things about it ? (not all games / programms excists for linux) ?
[08:46] <obscurite> Izzy: do you know if you have the Intel SATA chipset?
[08:46] <Kyral> Inc: I have not known about this
[08:46] <AIV> TTylus, I was hoping to make a pdf, and then print it outright
[08:46] <jdier> beattls, I am using it so I did not have to pay $100 for XP and $35 a year for antivirus.
[08:46] <Izzy> obscurite one sec
[08:47] <Kyral> Inc: Ask whoever you got it from for the userpass word
[08:47] <czr_> beattls, most commercial games are missing yes
[08:47] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> i'm gettign it becasue i jsut want to be linux smart, heh
[08:47] <beattls> ok
[08:47] <Kyral> beattls: this is why we use Cedega
[08:47] <jdier> Other stuff that would cost loads on XP is free on Ubuntu.
[08:47] <czr_> beattls, with some tricks you might get them to work though
[08:47] <Inc> Kyral, I got it from vmware.com but it was prepackaged
[08:47] <beattls> Cedega ?
[08:47] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> even though i ahve nothign agaisnt windows
[08:47] <TTilus> beattls: I go for Ubuntu because I am just plain lazy.
[08:47] <levander> beattls: if you're playing a lot of 3D games, stick with Windows
[08:47] <Kyral> beattls: But Doom3 and UT2k4 is native
[08:47] <Kyral> Inc: No thanks :P
[08:47] <levander> beattls: although some 3D games do work on Linux
[08:48] <czr_> beattls, you can always do a dual install. have windows around for gaming and linux for serious work
[08:48] <obscurite> Yeah, I chose Ubuntu because it seemed to be the best integrated GUI with a decent stock kernel (lots of drivers and patches)
[08:48] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> doom3 and ut2k4 work on linux with emulators just fine
[08:48] <obscurite> In other words, I was lazy
[08:48] <beattls> i'm not a really gamer , i'm gaming sometimes a bit americas army (but there is a linux version of it ...)
[08:48] <Inc> Pre-built Browser Appliance Virtual Machine
[08:48] <Inc> Featuring: Mozilla Firefox 1.0.7 and Ubuntu Linux 5.04
[08:48] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> a friend played HL2 with Wine
[08:48] <Kyral> MrB|zzZZzzZZzz: they are native installs :P
[08:48] <Inc> http://www.vmware.com/download/player/
[08:48] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> oh
[08:48] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> heh
[08:48] <Izzy> oba  Intel E7320
[08:48] <Inc> right there.
[08:48] <Izzy> obscurite  Intel E7320
[08:48] <Inc> MrB|zzZZzzZZzz, damn your nicks long
[08:48] <LabThug> anyone know a way to make breezy install using the 2.6 kernel?
[08:48] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> well, i play games msotly myself, and none of my games are antive
[08:48] <obscurite> Izzy, thanks, not sure if that's the one in the Dimension 8400 but i'll write it down
[08:48] <beattls> do i have to worry about a anti virus ?
[08:48] <Kyral> LabThug: it is by default with the 2.6
[08:48] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> like unreal 1
[08:48] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> heh
[08:48] <czr_> LabThug, it is already
[08:48] <LabThug> oh ok :-$
[08:48] <Kyral> LabThug: 2.6.12-9 I believe
[08:49] <ubun-newbie> is there any antivirus or firewall for ubuntu
[08:49] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> there
[08:49] <AIV> TTilus, I was hoping to convert that Wine manual to a PDF, and then print it, but I realized that its an index, links to other pages, so I guess it wont work
[08:49] <MrB|zzZZzzZZzz> er
[08:49] <Falstius> unless you need Linux for working, doing a dual install defeats most of the reasons for running Linux over windows.
[08:49] <gnomefreak> beattls, not really but there are some for ubuntu
[08:49] <Kyral> ubun-newbie: they are not needed
[08:49] <czr_> beattls, depends on whether you are a mail server for windows clients or not
[08:49] <TTilus> beattls: just go browsing security sites and warning lists and decide yourself
[08:49] <ubun-newbie> ok how do i create a socket
[08:49] <czr_> beattls, you need to worry about security like in any environment
[08:49] <TTilus> beattls: I dont
[08:49] <Kyral> ubun-newbie: NFI ;P
[08:49] <Stormx2> How do I make gnome open FTP directories selected from the "places" menu open in Nautilus. They were before, But I messed it up.
[08:49] <Kyral> ubun-newbie: I just know how to work IPTables :D
[08:49] <Kyral> Yah?
[08:49] <Izzy> Anyone mind helping a ubuntu newbie figure out how to upgrade to php5/mysql5 (im on a server install of breezy)
[08:49] <Inc> did you look at the link?
[08:49] <beattls> ok i have a lot of questions ... is it a problem that i ask them all ?
[08:49] <levander> AIV: sometimes they release the manual in other formats that might be easier to print, but my suggestion is just to get used to read documentation online
[08:50] <ubun-newbie> how can i create a socket mr.kyral
[08:50] <Kyral> beattls: one at a time please :D
[08:50] <gr3ps> how does the 5.10 release work. It says it includes a livecd option.
[08:50] <gr3ps> ?
[08:50] <Kyral> ubun-newbie: I don't know lol
[08:50] <gnomefreak> Kyral,  your a step up from me ive just heard about them lol
[08:50] <[c] MrB> no beattls
[08:50] <ubun-newbie> you said u know lol
[08:50] <Kyral> gr3ps: you have to download and burn them
[08:50] <Falstius> AIV: the wine users guide in pdf?  Its here: http://www.winehq.com/docs/en/wineusr-guide.pdf
[08:50] <beattls> ok thx all :)
[08:50] <Kyral> ubun-newbie: I know about IPTables
[08:50] <czr_> ah, an ubuntu-related question, finally. can I install ubuntu using the live-cd?
[08:50] <[c] MrB> heh, they will be getting q questiosn dumped on them by me in abotu 2 hours
[08:50] <Kyral> ubun-newbie: Which is the firewall built into Linux
[08:50] <Inc> wow do you guy's get random questions like that all the time in here?
[08:50] <Kyral> czr_: No
[08:50] <gnomefreak> [c] MrB, no
[08:50] <Kyral> czr_: Not yet
[08:50] <[c] MrB> ?
[08:50] <czr_> always wondered about that
[08:50] <Kyral> czr_: Its planned for Dapper
[08:50] <Inc> having people ask questions that are...........
[08:50] <levander> ubun-newbie: you're asking some pretty serious questions, i'll be surprised if they're resolved in this chat room, time to hit the docs and study quite a bit i think
[08:50] <gnomefreak> i mean czr_  sorry
[08:51] <beattls> how can i create a dual boot on my pc , i have got one hard disk with windows (wich i will plug out for safety when i install linux) and than i've another hard disk for linux
[08:51] <aonicc> does ubuntu support multi-monitor configurations?
[08:51] <czr_> and downloaded the normal CD instead, OTOH it would be really nice to have both in the same pack
[08:51] <Kyral> aonicc: yes
[08:51] <jax0m> how can i find out how much disk space a directory is taking up?
[08:51] <czr_> Kyral, could a minimal netinstall be fitted on the live cd?
[08:51] <Kyral> czr_: the problem is fitting them both on one cd
[08:51] <[c] MrB> left click properties
[08:51] <[c] MrB> right click*
[08:51] <czr_> that's why I asked about the netinstall
[08:51] <Kyral> czr_: it is planned for Dapper
[08:51] <jax0m> [c] MrB, command line
[08:51] <gnomefreak> czr_, if you get them from ship it they come live and install in same sleve
[08:51] <Kyral> czr_: in April
[08:51] <[c] MrB> oh, heh
[08:51] <czr_> Kyral, cool, thanks for the info
[08:51] <Inc> funnny stuff anytime someone canhelp me say my nick
[08:52] <Inc> thanks
[08:52] <obscurite> Izzy, what's available via apt by default as far as mysql/php?
[08:52] <jax0m> does anyone else know how?
[08:52] <jax0m> how can i find out how much disk space a directory is taking up?
[08:52] <Kyral> obscurite: everything?
[08:52] <jax0m> from the command line?
[08:52] <Kyral> jax0m: df -h <dir?
[08:52] <gnomefreak> Inc, thats so you know we answered :)
[08:52] <[c] MrB> apt-cache search mysql php
[08:52] <obscurite> Kyral - wondering what he's starting out with if he's upgrading :)
[08:52] <[c] MrB> obscure
[08:52] <czr_> gnomefreak, I try not to create any waste CDs
[08:52] <jax0m> Kyral, thanks, i didn't know df let you specify directories
[08:52] <czr_> gnomefreak, I burn on RWs normally
[08:52] <obscurite> Kyral (was talking about Izzy's question)
[08:52] <Talky> another query... can i boot ubuntu without having to install grub?
[08:52] <Inc> gnomefreak, ?
[08:52] <Kyral> Talky: no
[08:52] <Kyral> Talky: you need GRUB or LILO
[08:52] <czr_> Talky, depends
[08:52] <[c] MrB> does the installation instal grub?
[08:53] <jax0m> Kyral, that's cause it doesn't
[08:53] <aonicc> kyral, would you be willing to help me set up xorg to work with multiple monitors?
[08:53] <Kyral> [c] MrB: yes
[08:53] <beattls> how can i create a dual boot on my pc , i have got one hard disk with windows (wich i will plug out for safety when i install linux) and than i've another hard disk for linux
[08:53] <[c] MrB> ok
[08:53] <czr_> but probably no. it's not something newbies should try
[08:53] <Kyral> aonicc: look at your PM
[08:53] <gnomefreak> Inc,  we say your name when we answer so you know we are answering you
[08:53] <jax0m> Kyral, that outputs the available disk space on the partition the particular directory is mounted on
[08:53] <jax0m> doesn't help me at all
[08:53] <Kyral> jax0m: oh lol
[08:53] <Kyral> jax0m: I fogot
[08:53] <[c] MrB>    damn, these linux distros have everhyitng, installign windows, you need several 3rd aprty programs
[08:53] <Kyral> jax0m: its DU -h dir
[08:53] <Inc> gnomefreak, ok but no one answered my problem.
[08:53] <Inc> :)
[08:53] <jax0m> Kyral, haha
[08:53] <jax0m> thanks hun
[08:53] <obscurite> Are there any linux installers that allow you to resize a windows partition and install along side it in a new partition? (for when you have no space left)
[08:53] <Talky> czr_, i heard that its possile to boot from floopy ..
[08:53] <Kyral> jax0m: its insane in here
[08:53] <jax0m> hahah
[08:53] <gnomefreak> Inc,  what was it im sorry missed it
[08:54] <Kyral> obscurite: yes Ubuntu does I think
[08:54] <jax0m> Kyral, many thanks
[08:54] <obscurite> (to clarify) non destructive partition resize, like partition magic
[08:54] <czr_> Talky, yes, but it's unsupported and will go away and would require custom kernel in case of ubuntu
[08:54] <Kyral> Talky: it is...but not reccommended
[08:54] <[c] MrB> don't most distoros come with a tool for doing that obscure?
[08:54] <zandaa> !mp3
[08:54] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:54] <Inc> gnomefreak, I Told you about the password thing
[08:54] <Inc> and being screwed over.
[08:54] <beattls> if i'm going to game , on wich os (windows or linux:kubuntu) i'll have the best fps ?
[08:54] <Inc> due to not having it
[08:54] <Izzy> i see php5 in the apt-get, but if i already have php4 installed, what do i do?
[08:54] <obscurite> [c] MrB: non destructive resize i mean
[08:54] <czr_> beattls, there was a tool for windows that would add a boot entry into the windows boot manager
[08:54] <Inc> and I linked you twhere I got it.
[08:54] <Inc> !AAC
[08:54] <ubotu> [aac]  read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about aac support
[08:54] <Kyral> Izzy: they cohabitate
[08:54] <czr_> beattls, so that you select linux from it
[08:54] <[c] MrB> beattls, it's not abotu FPS really, if that were the case, id say ubtuntu
[08:54] <Inc> !WINDOWS
[08:54] <ubotu> I heard windows is unnecessary, everything runs in Linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office or find an !alternative, or what you remove to make room for kubuntu
[08:54] <Inc> ;P
[08:54] <[c] MrB> it's about compatability [for me anyways] 
[08:54] <gnomefreak> Inc, someone had to put a user name and password or you couldnt get onto the desktop
[08:54] <AIV> Falstius, thank you
[08:55] <Inc> nope
[08:55] <czr_> beattls, then you just install on a separate disk and install GRUB to the start of the Linux disk (not the windows one)
[08:55] <kemik> too bad ubotu is wrong there :B
[08:55] <Ng> Inc: that entry is nonsense
[08:55] <[c] MrB> actuallyign gettign the emulator to run the game
[08:55] <Kyral> Inc: then you are FUBAR'd
[08:55] <czr_> beattls, but keep the disks at different IDE-names (one master, other master on other ide channel, or slave)
[08:55] <[c] MrB> what games are you trying to play?
[08:55] <Talky> thnx czr_
[08:55] <czr_> beattls, otherwise grub won't be able to boot
[08:55] <Inc> kyncani, cool
[08:55] <Talky> thnx Kyral
[08:55] <Falstius> AIV, np.
[08:55] <shaggydoo> does anyone have experience with getting dri/3d accel on mach64 cards?
[08:55] <AndyR> lo all
[08:55] <czr_> Talky, np
[08:55] <Necrocide> How do I close port 1027 (IIS)?
[08:55] <beattls> so with a small program i can make a kind of menu when i boot pc ? in that menu i can choose for windows or for linux ? i'm i understanding that good ?
[08:55] <loufoque> ubotu is saying crap
[08:55] <ubotu> loufoque: I give up, what is it?
[08:56] <czr_> Necrocide, it is not IIS. it is an outbound port from your host
[08:56] <Izzy> Kyral so if i just follow a tutorial on how to install php5, ill have no issues that there is an existing php4 installed?
[08:56] <czr_> Necrocide, most probably
[08:56] <Izzy> or is it something i have to remove?
[08:56] <loufoque> Wine/Cedega/CrossOver aren't emulators
[08:56] <[c] MrB> grub coems up with a 'pick your OS' menu
[08:56] <Kyral> Izzy: I believe so
[08:56] <beattls> ok
[08:56] <Necrocide> So its needed?
[08:56] <[c] MrB> what are they?
[08:56] <[c] MrB> louf
[08:56] <collinder> !xinerama
[08:56] <ubotu> No idea, collinder
[08:56] <beattls> i can install GRUB after i installed ubuntu ?
[08:56] <loufoque> Wine Is Not an Emulator
[08:56] <gnomefreak> Inc, you need to install it over again and this time do it dont let someone else do it i have never heard of an automatted install
[08:56] <collinder> ok how do i "install" xinerama
[08:56] <[c] MrB> grub is installed during the ubtunu installation
[08:56] <czr_> Necrocide, try connecting to it with telnet: telnet localhost 1027
[08:56] <Falstius> Necrocide: the easiest way is to download something like Firestart (sudo apt-get install firestarter)
[08:56] <collinder> cause all i see are a bunch of words
[08:56] <zandaa> loufoque, then what is Wine?
[08:56] <[c] MrB> then what is it louf?
[08:56] <gnomefreak> beattls, grub gets "installed" during ubuntu
[08:56] <czr_> Necrocide, if you actually get some access, then it probably is some backdoor
[08:57] <zandaa> gnomefreak, that's only if you choose it to
[08:57] <czr_> Necrocide, netstat -tln
[08:57] <loufoque> http://www.winehq.com/site/docs/wine-faq/index#WHAT-IS-WINE-AND-WHAT-IS-IT-SUPPOSED-TO
[08:57] <beattls> but grub is also working when i have 2 harddisk and one of them (the one with windows) isn't plugged in ?
[08:57] <Kyral> [c] MrB: Wine is technically something that allows Linux to use XP DLLs
[08:57] <gr3ps> kyral, there seems to be one 600mB download--that includes a live cd, or there is a method of burning either a live cd or an install-cd?
[08:57] <beattls> while installing
[08:57] <[c] MrB> wine emulates a window spai
[08:57] <Kyral> gr3ps: its a LiveCD
[08:57] <[c] MrB> api*
[08:57] <czr_> beattls, as long as you don't move the disks on the bus
[08:57] <gnomefreak> zandaa,  on breezy you dont have a choice unless you do server install
[08:57] <Inc> gnomefreak, well I probably will later on
[08:57] <[c] MrB> yes, that's what an emulator does
[08:57] <[c] MrB> heh
[08:57] <gnomefreak> im not sure if server install lets you choose
[08:57] <Kyral> [c] MrB: No not actually. An Emulator runs "on top" of the hardware
[08:58] <czr_> beattls, with some work it's possible to support even after movement
[08:58] <Ng> [c] MrB: it *implements* much of the windows api, there's a difference
[08:58] <loufoque> Wine just ports the windows API to linux
[08:58] <AndyR> i like qemu
[08:58] <eobanb> kyral's right
[08:58] <loufoque> can't you read ?
[08:58] <beattls> ok thx :)
[08:58] <Kyral> [c] MrB: Think NDiswrapper
[08:58] <Kyral> [c] MrB: But for everything else lol
[08:58] <shaggydoo> I've tried every possible solution to get direct rendering on my mach64 card. I've compiled from CVS (from one of the how-to wikis), I've compiled the modules (from the How-To SAVAGE on the forums), tried some other misc stuff, nothing seems to work, anyone feel like sparing a moment to help me?
[08:58] <zandaa> gnomefreak, ah ok
[08:58] <[c] MrB> lol
[08:58] <loufoque> and that's why it is way better than an emulator
[08:58] <beattls> they say that linux is better to host server etc , is that true ? and can i better host server with ubuntu than with windows ?
[08:58] <gr3ps> ok. thanks.
[08:58] <LabThug> hmm, in the expert install version, ubuntu hangs right after scanning the drives for partitioning
[08:58] <[c] MrB> Well, how good is Wine for running older games?
[08:58] <Kyral> beattls: yes
[08:58] <Necrocide> I got port 1027, 1026, and 631? How do I close? :/
[08:58] <Kyral> beattls: Ever hear of Apache?
[08:58] <[c] MrB> like unreal 1, Quake 2, etc
[08:59] <czr_> beattls, if you know what you're doing, yes
[08:59] <beattls> yes
[08:59] <LabThug> this machine has an SATA drive, could that be causing ubuntu's installer to hang
[08:59] <czr_> linux is also the most broken into server
[08:59] <czr_> :-)
[08:59] <beattls> but why ? i don't understand why it would better to host with linux :s
[08:59] <loufoque> [c] MrB: check wine's website
[08:59] <shaggydoo> [c] MrB, well quake is available for linux
[08:59] <[c] MrB> i suppose i shoudl as in the wine channel
[08:59] <Kyral> czr_: Bull****
[08:59] <[c] MrB> Quake 2?
[08:59] <psycode> i'm having a small problem, i can't change the thunderbird icon in the gnome panel... its odd..
[08:59] <gnomefreak> beattls, some linux distros are made for servers bsd (not linux) is pretty much made for server
[08:59] <czr_> Kyral, I'm not speaking about windows home computers
[08:59] <Kyral> IIS is worse ;P
[08:59] <shaggydoo> [c] MrB, should be, it's open-source
[08:59] <Kyral> czr_: I know :P
[08:59] <[c] MrB> it is :O
[08:59] <[c] MrB> ?
[08:59] <czr_> Kyral, sure. but there are so much more linuxen out there
[08:59] <[c] MrB> i didn't know that
[08:59] <Kyral> czr_: Apache is more secure than IIS :P
[08:59] <eobanb> there are linux ports of all three versions of quake
[08:59] <czr_> and most of the admins just don't know what to do with them
[09:00] <shaggydoo> [c] MrB, id does that for most of their games
[09:00] <AndyR> or better still download enemy terratory
[09:00] <Kyral> okay I really need to get to work
[09:00] <shaggydoo> not immediately, of course.
[09:00] <czr_> Kyral, anything is unsecure in my books if you don't maintain it
[09:00] <czr_> apache has holes, sshd has holes, etc etc
[09:00] <Kyral> czr_: of course but NOW i need to work
[09:00] <[c] MrB> what about Unreal 1?. it's the main reason i use the computer heh, [i'm a mapper/scripter] 
[09:00] <czr_> Kyral, :-)
[09:00] <shaggydoo> no idea, you'd better google or check the wine site
[09:00] <[c] MrB> most importantly, the editor it uses, which is VB, heh
[09:00] <beattls> i'm programming in c++ , is there a good compiler for linux ?
[09:00] <AndyR> ET is great
[09:00] <MWettendorff> How do i list all the DB that is on the sql server??
[09:00] <slushpupie> [c] MrB: as far as I know, Unreal works in wine
[09:00] <gnomefreak> czr_, if you look hard enough at anything there are holes nothing is perfect
[09:01] <kemik> beattls:  g++
[09:01] <czr_> beattls, intel's c compiler or GNU project compiler collection (gcc)
[09:01] <Kyral> beattls: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:01] <shaggydoo> AndyR,  ET is great, and that's why I'm trying to get direct rendering on my mach64 card, or at least the onboard SiS 630
[09:01] <[c] MrB> downlaod of ubtuntu is done, lets pray this cd works, brb
[09:01] <czr_> beattls, also some others, but probably too expensive for you
[09:01] <beattls> and all that compilers / software is opensource (= free ?)
[09:01] <czr_> gnomefreak, sure
[09:01] <randy> i'm trying to open a file that is called linuxq3apoint-1.32b.x86.run (i'm trying to setup a quake III arena server) and i'm sure its a archive file.. but how do i open it?
[09:01] <kemik> beattls:  free yes
[09:01] <czr_> beattls, not all. but gcc is free
[09:01] <Falstius> beattls: g++ is a good compiler, but there are also IDEs (similar to Microsoft Visual) for linux such as Anjuta and kdevelop.
[09:01] <Kyral> beattls: GCC is all you need :D
[09:01] <gnomefreak> beattls, yes free
[09:01] <slushpupie> randy: you just run that file
[09:02] <beattls> the IDE's are they also for free ?
[09:02] <slushpupie> randy: its a script/self-extracting-archive
[09:02] <AndyR> shaggydoo, ET works great here on a G-force 5 :)#
[09:02] <Falstius> beattls: those are
[09:02] <gnomefreak> than theres vi, vim, emacs and hundreds of others :)
[09:02] <Kyral> beattls: everything in Ubuntu is free
[09:02] <Falstius> beattls: but if you want to spend money on something there's always someone willing to take it ;)
[09:02] <shaggydoo> AndyR, works great on my laptop too, but I'd still like to get it working on this old computer
[09:02] <Kyral> legally free
[09:02] <randy> so i just run it in the root terminal?
[09:02] <beattls> wow that's all looing much better than windows ?
[09:02] <eobanb> did he just ask if something was free??
[09:02] <slushpupie> randy: yes
[09:02] <Kyral> eobanb: yes
[09:02] <eobanb> lol
[09:02] <gnomefreak> eobanb, yep
[09:02] <slushpupie> randy: there should be a readme that goes with that file that tells you how to install quake3
[09:02] <Kyral> beattls: welcome to the wonderful world of GPL
[09:02] <randy> thanks i'll give it a try
[09:03] <shaggydoo> Damn you xorg!!
[09:03] <beattls> GPL ?
[09:03] <Kyral> !GPL
[09:03] <ubotu> Not a clue, Kyral
[09:03] <beattls> lol sry
[09:03] <gnomefreak> EVERYTHING is free in all senses of the word in ubuntu
[09:03] <Lagro> exit
[09:03] <Kyral> The GNU General Public License
[09:03] <Kyral> www.gnu.org
[09:03] <Kyral> now I go worky
[09:03] <AndyR> shaggydoo, apart from the fact i get motion sickness after a while playing it
[09:03] <abarbaccia_> join #xen
[09:03] <Kyral> or else I faily class
[09:03] <gnomefreak> later Kyral
[09:03] <shaggydoo> AndyR, hah, really? never happened to me, although I did get that back in the day from counter-strike
[09:03] <czr_> gnomefreak, nv drivers too?
[09:03] <randy> so i try to run my file and it says permission denied?
[09:04] <gnomefreak> czr_, what about nv drivers?
[09:04] <beattls> is here somebody from europe who ordered the cd's ?
[09:04] <czr_> gnomefreak, free in all senses of the word?
[09:04] <shaggydoo> randy, use sudo or log in as root
[09:04] <AndyR> beattls, yes uk here with cds delivered
[09:04] <mkyb14> ?
[09:04] <Falstius> you know, GPL is in some ways less "free" than other licenses .. but thats not really "ontopic" here.
[09:05] <gnomefreak> czr_, i dont see why not but i dont use them the bot has a site for them tho :)
[09:05] <beattls> how long did it take ?
[09:05] <rathma> hi all
[09:05] <czr_> gnomefreak, well, you can't get the source code for them, so they're not free in all meanings of the word. that was my point :-)
[09:05] <AndyR> beattls, 6 weeks?
[09:05] <czr_> I'm sure there are also some firmwares which are not free included in ubuntu
[09:05] <beattls> ok that's fine , so i know when they are going to arrive (approximately)
[09:05] <shaggydoo> oh come on! there has to be someone here with experience with mach64 or SiS cards!
[09:05] <czr_> but better not split hairs tonite
[09:06] <czr_> shaggydoo, have you tried googling?
[09:06] <gnomefreak> czr_, remember me telling you you look hard enough. you want the source code bad enough you can find it
[09:06] <AndyR> shaggydoo, cant you put a better card in it?
[09:06] <shaggydoo> czr_, like there's no tomorrow
[09:06] <czr_> shaggydoo, cause your problem doesn't seem to be ubuntu-specific :-)
[09:06] <shaggydoo> AndyR, it's an old computer I got for free
[09:06] <czr_> shaggydoo, hmmh. I've never confed mach64/sis for DRI
[09:06] <shaggydoo> AndyR, not much point in putting that in there
[09:06] <czr_> otherwise I could have taken a look
[09:06] <AndyR> shaggydoo, where are you?
[09:06] <shaggydoo> AndyR, canada
[09:07] <czr_> gnomefreak, I'd settle for programming specs
[09:07] <czr_> good ones. hell, even bad ones like ATI offered
[09:07] <shaggydoo> czr_, well, the furthest I got was with the sis630 card, I managed to get it to direct rendering, but glxgears simply crashed with "segmentation fault"
[09:07] <AndyR> ok, if in uk i would have sent you an old g-force
[09:07] <[c] MrB> server install then apt-get kubuntu-desktop right?
[09:07] <beattls> another question , not ubuntu specific but ... if i play Americas Army with linux (the same version) can i join than the same server ?
[09:07] <shaggydoo> AndyR, thanks though :)
[09:07] <czr_> shaggydoo, hmm. segfault could be caused for very many reasons
[09:08] <[c] MrB> what is the command to  select internet  apt-get sources?
[09:08] <shaggydoo> czr_, tell me, oh wise one ;)
[09:09] <czr_> shaggydoo, mismatch of X protocol extensions on server and client, mismatch of data packet framing from dri clientside to GPU, mismatch of DRM commands, etc
[09:09] <czr_> shaggydoo, I'd really like to help you, but I'd need to have the same hardware in order to
[09:09] <czr_> debugging DRI-stuff is pita
[09:10] <czr_> I only have radeons at the moment
[09:10] <shaggydoo> czr_, I see.
[09:10] <czr_> I think there was a sis somewhere, but can't remember where
[09:10] <czr_> some motherboard solution, might be at work
[09:10] <randy> i've been trying to run this linuxq3apoint-1.32b.x86.run file but i dont understand how to make it run the root terminal.. i get errors like; command not found or permission denied.
[09:11] <shaggydoo> there are official linux drivers from sis, but that didn't seem to work (didn't look like it was for xorg)
[09:11] <AndyR> os[Linux 2.6.10-5-686 - Debian 3.1]  up[10 hours, 08 minutes]  cpu[Pentium III (Coppermine), 451.053 MHz (892.92 bogomips)]  mem[279.17/282.39 MB (98.9%)]  video[ at 1024x768 (24 bits)] 
[09:11] <czr_> shaggydoo, sis630?
[09:12] <beattls> last question , i'm volonteering my cpu power for UD grid.org , but i just saw at there site that there wasn't a linux version ? is it possible to run this on linux ?
[09:12] <AndyR> randy is it +x?
[09:12] <chalcedony> greetings and *hugs*
[09:12] <czr_> beattls, spare your CPU from early death and don't run that :-)
[09:12] <navarone> randy may have to be run as root...try sudo'ing the command
[09:12] <czr_> beattls, if a commercial closed project doesn't provide linux versions, then no, there is no linux version
[09:12] <beattls> czr_ ? what's bad with doing that ?
[09:13] <chalcedony> my husband and i are trying to set up our HP All-In-One on his new Ubuntu. HELP!!!
[09:13] <czr_> beattls, higher temp kills electronics faster
[09:13] <beattls> i've got zalman 9500 :D
[09:13] <Falstius> chalcedony: if you just want to print, it should be okay.  If you want to scan ... maybe.
[09:13] <chalcedony> it's asking for an ip ?
[09:13] <Falstius> chalcedony: what model is it?
[09:13] <MWettendorff> what is the best FTP server for ubuntu??
[09:13] <chalcedony> Falstius: *sigh* print first.. actually a good head cleaning would help it.
[09:14] <collinder> ok i have just installed the xinerama packets... now i need help with the nvidia drivers... if i serioulsy follow the wiki... it should work, right
[09:14] <chalcedony> Falstius: HP Officejet 7210
[09:14] <chalcedony> wooh Falstius :)
[09:14] <ThePyromaniac> I am following ttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to install java 1.5
[09:14] <randy> i've tried using the sudo command, i'm fairly new to linux.. should i have the file stored somewhere other than the desktop to run it?
[09:14] <Stormx2> Eek
[09:14] <ThePyromaniac> but when i try to install fakeroot it doesnt work
[09:15] <Stormx2> I forgot I asked my question >.>
[09:15] <ThePyromaniac> Package fakeroot is not available, but is referred to by another package
[09:15] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell ThePyromaniac  about javadebs
[09:15] <Stormx2> Can I get FTP directories to open in nautilus when they are selected from the places menu?
[09:15] <Torez182b> Can someone help please? My Ubuntu installation constantly reverts to my wireless LAN for default gateway, stopping my internet, and when WLAN's disabled, it doesn't select any connection at all..
[09:15] <DrBair> randy: you need to use chmod to give the file executable permissions
[09:15] <jaro> hi there. I have serious problems with my fresh breezy installation.
[09:15] <gnomefreak> ThePyromaniac, the pm ubotu sent you will install much easier
[09:15] <DrBair> randy:  then run it like ./filename
[09:16] <Watje> >> find /mnt//Muziek/ -name ".mp3" -or -name "*.MP3" << gives me only the *.MP3 ones, so can anybody tell me whats wrong?
[09:16] <jaro> I've installed warty off cd and then updated via apt to breezy.
[09:16] <MWettendorff> what is the best FTP server for ubuntu??
[09:16] <ThePyromaniac> gnomefreak thanks, perhaps im being lame but how do you install from deb?
[09:16] <jaro> Now I have mysterious errors with X.
[09:16] <binarydigit> define best
[09:16] <Falstius> chalcedony: your printer should be pretty simple to set up.  It has network support and probably just gets an ip address from your router
[09:16] <chalcedony> MWettendorff: i love your nick
[09:16] <beattls> ok thanks all for the help i received :) this irc channel is really good ... maybay i'll come back when i got my ubuntu cd's an i've a problem
[09:16] <DrBair> Watje:  missing a * before the .mp3 part?
[09:16] <collinder> question... when this install doesnt work, how do i get the backup towork... cause it never works!!!
[09:16] <jaro> I'll try to explain...
[09:16] <Watje> ah thank you DrBair
[09:16] <navarone> Matje> because you used flag *MP# that will filter and show only mp3s from that directory
[09:16] <gnomefreak> ThePyromaniac, download it than after its done type sudo dpkg -i <packagename>
[09:16] <chalcedony> Falstius: ok ty i'm pretty lame at this stuff. can you explain step by step, please?
[09:16] <Watje> that was stupid
[09:16] <navarone> mp3 rather...lol
[09:17] <ThePyromaniac> gnomefreak thanks
[09:17] <zandaa> YAY!!! I gots the flash to work :P
[09:17] <gnomefreak> ThePyromaniac, your welcome
[09:17] <Stormx2> zandaa: sweet
[09:17] <jaro> When I start kdm/gdm and press any key, resolution gets switched instead of receiving character.
[09:17] <MWettendorff> Chalcedony: how come?? it is just my name
[09:17] <zandaa> stormx2, yeh, that's what I thought
[09:17] <Falstius> chalcedony: you need to find out what IP address the printer has first.
[09:17] <chalcedony> Falstius: yes how
[09:17] <Falstius> The easiest way to do that is probably to log into your router and get it off the dhcp list.
[09:17] <chalcedony> MWettendorff: it's a neat name too
[09:18] <zandaa> stormx2, it's not the official player though (the installer doesn't work on 64-bit systems)
[09:18] <chalcedony> Falstius: umm how?
[09:18] <jaro> I don't even know what causes the problem. Any suggestions?
[09:18] <akurashy> Is there a way to decorate the terminal? (Like using black background, because white hurts my eyes)
[09:18] <shaggydoo> czr_, sorry, yes, sis630.
[09:18] <zandaa> akurashy, try and rightclick the terminal itself
[09:18] <navarone> akurashy ...I use venetian blinds...lol
[09:18] <Torez182b> Anyone help...?
[09:18] <shaggydoo> czr_, 630/730, 300 series, all the same.
[09:18] <zandaa> akurashy, and then click on something like edit profile or something
[09:19] <MWettendorff> chalcedony: you are freaking me out here..  Do you know me in some way??
[09:19] <akurashy> zandaa, wow! i never thought it was there , my bad
[09:19] <gnomefreak> i had a nice purple background and damn windows made me lose it :(
[09:19] <jaro> is there any other ubuntu channel where someone could possibly help me to find out what's wrong?
[09:19] <anavim> how do I launch the screen resolution app from the cli?
[09:19] <akurashy> zandaa, thanks a lot!
[09:19] <Falstius> chalcedony: open up firefox and go to "http://192.168.0.1" and login in
[09:19] <zandaa> akurashy, no problem
[09:20] <Falstius> chalcedony:  there should be a tab somewhere that says "dhcp" and a list of machines with addresses.  this depends a lot on the kind of router.
[09:20] <anavim> strangely, the screen resolution app doesn't have screen resolution in it's name, so I can't find it with apropos or locate
[09:20] <collinder> i have installed xnerama and nvidia drivers.... how can i be sure that i did everythign correctly before i restart...
[09:20] <collinder> if thats possible?
[09:20] <kraehe> moin ... any idea how to install ubuntu without a CD ? i have pxe up and running ... is it possible to debootstrap ubuntu from a debian ?
[09:20] <ProNoob> i am getting alot of "Dec  9 18:21:07 localhost kernel: [4300107.330000]  eth0: Too much work at interr upt, status=0x3c48080." messages like that since yesterday, and when it happens i get disconnected, i am connected to the internet with pppoe over eth0, any ideas ?
[09:21] <DrBair> collinder:  i guess just restart the x server and see what happens :-).  if you backed up your xorg.conf you should be fine
[09:21] <chalcedony> MWettendorff: i'm a grandmother, just being nice.
[09:22] <nickrud> anavim, I think you're looking for gnome-display-properties
[09:22] <collinder> drbair: well it doesnt look like it worked
[09:22] <jaro>  any suggestion what might cause resolution switching on keypress (except that numpad keys work correctly) when in kdm/gdm (breezy)
[09:23] <Falstius> chalcedony: there is an easier way, but I'm trying to get it to work on my machine first.
[09:23] <anavim> nickrud: thx!!!
[09:23] <collinder> drbair: i dont get how everything is shown on the nvidia monitor during boot up and then it shoots over to the voodoo 3 monitor... i just installed both the nvidia drivers and xinerama...
[09:23] <collinder> i have no clue anymore
[09:23] <chalcedony> the connection was refused at that ip Falstius
[09:23] <collinder> drbair: it says failed to start the x server
[09:24] <Falstius> chalcedony: do you know how to use the command line?
[09:24] <gnomefreak> collinder, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to fix X
[09:24] <navarone> collinder sounds like you need to edit xorg.conf in order to enable nvidia driver
[09:24] <DrBair> collinder:  does the modules show up in lsmod?
[09:25] <DrBair> collinder:  also take a peak in /var/log/ to see what the xorg log has to say about it
[09:25] <alexandre> Hi guys! I see you are talking about switching resolutions within Gnome. "gnome-display-properties" does the job once you're logged in. But I wonder how you can change the resolution for the log-on screen. On my computer, it simply uses max resolution, which has a refresh rate of 60 Hz and which hurts my eyes. An idea?
[09:25] <navarone> gnomefreak maybe easier to just edit xorg.conf. I tried the reconfigure thing and lost keyboard and mouse again...had to cp backup to xorg.conf to fix...lol
[09:25] <collinder> drbair: i cant take a peek at anything all i have is a black screen on my computer now
[09:26] <MWettendorff> chalcedony: oh. i c
[09:26] <collinder> gnomefreak: says i must run as root... im in the terminal im guessing
[09:26] <jeenyusnoboarder> hey, im trying to use the unoficial add on CD. I use the install command says the install completed, then im suppost to type "sudo sh $HOME/ug-install.sh -auto"
[09:26] <collinder> im a total noob
[09:26] <jeenyusnoboarder> and i do
[09:26] <jeenyusnoboarder> but nothign happens
[09:26] <jeenyusnoboarder> any ideas?
[09:26] <chalcedony> Falstius: on my box yes (debian) this one no (ubuntu)
[09:26] <jaro>  any suggestion what might cause resolution switching on keypress (except that numpad keys work correctly) when in kdm/gdm (breezy)
[09:27] <gnomefreak> collinder, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:27] <navarone> collinder try sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf  <-- type pass and will open file to edit
[09:27] <Falstius> chalcedony: you can open a terminal by hitting alt-f2 and type xterm into the box.
[09:27] <collinder> ty gnomefreak and navarone...
[09:27] <collinder> tryin now
[09:27] <jeenyusnoboarder> -_-
[09:27] <gnomefreak> yw Collinder either way should work fine
[09:28] <chalcedony> Falstius: ty very much i have a phone call, few min please?
[09:28] <navarone> collinder...if you have nvidia drivers installed check for mention of nvidia in the display section of conf
[09:28] <Falstius> chalcedony: sure.
[09:28] <Necrocide> Where do I install cursors? :)
[09:28] <collinder> gnomefreak: i got the blue configure x server - x org page
[09:28] <collinder> gnomefreak: and i see nvidia
[09:29] <collinder> navarone: im guessin i just hit enter here cause this is what your talkin bout right?
[09:29] <alexandre> jaro> I think I have seen something about keys used to switch resolution somewhere in a config file. I believe it might have been in /etc/X11/xf-something.
[09:29] <AIV> one of the printers I have here in the office is a Lanier LD135 (copier machine type unit), and in my windows environment it is shared from a windows 2000 server, on the server it is set up as a local printer via a tcp/ip printer port - in ubuntu I set it up as an hp jetdirect using the printers IP address and port 9100, and it just wont print
[09:29] <AIV> what am I doing wrong?
[09:30] <tonyyarusso> I'm having some trouble figuring out how to get non-free formats to play embedded on pages in Firefox.  I have the codecs and such to play them in Totem and VLC, but not the FF plugins set up.
[09:30] <gnomefreak> collinder,  yes try enter also as you go through it see if autodetect finds everything ok
[09:30] <tonyyarusso> (The one I'm testing with is a WMV video.)
[09:30] <collinder> navarone: i hit enter while i was on nvidia and now its showing my 3dfx voodoo 3 card, which is my secondary monitor
[09:30] <jeenyusnoboarder> so none of you know anything about the add on cd?
[09:30] <alexandre> jaro> What key(s) do you press to make you resolution switch?
[09:30] <MWettendorff> this n00b here is in badly need of help from some one that can help with instructions to apache/php/mysql setup
[09:30] <navarone> collinder you are using gnomefreak's method
[09:30] <collinder> gnomefreak: it autodetects my voodoo 3 card, which was my secondary monitor when i had windows installed
[09:30] <collinder> navarone: yes
[09:31] <navarone> collinder> do you have two vidcards installed in same machine?
[09:31] <collinder> navarone: yes
[09:31] <navarone> umm
[09:31] <tonyyarusso> How do I make the gstreamer plugins recognized by Firefox?
[09:31] <collinder> navarone: nvidia geforce fx 5200 and a voodoo 3
[09:31] <Necrocide> Where do I install cursors? :) Anyone knows?
[09:31] <navarone> I don't know how linux handles dual vidcards...and different ones at that
[09:32] <skierkegaard> how do I get my wireless card to be configured?
[09:32] <gnomefreak> collinder,  me neither :(
[09:32] <collinder> shit
[09:32] <zandaa> Seveas?
[09:32] <gnomefreak> Necrocide, did you look in synaptic for them?
[09:32] <navarone> collinder eaqsies tthing to do is remove voodoo card
[09:32] <mkyb14> anyone here use wine?
[09:32] <Necrocide> gnomefreak, no. I downloaded em from a website gnome-looks.org
[09:32] <freddy> hello je suis nouveau comment a marche ?
[09:32] <Falstius> mkyb14: only when my wife is being stubborn.
[09:32] <simonvallore> Hello i have an issue when i installed ubuntu i had a usb drive plugged in with two other installs on it well the grub picked it up so how do i edit the grub and remove them ?
[09:33] <collinder> navarone: it will auto detect the nvidia card then ? cause i already downloaded the packets for nvidia
[09:33] <mkyb14> how do you install apps?
[09:33] <tonyyarusso> mkyb14: Only for one app.
[09:33] <mkyb14> i can't figure it out for the life of me
[09:33] <collinder> ima start the computer over in a second then im gonna take the voodoo 3 card out
[09:33] <mkyb14> i know but i can't figure out how to install trillian
[09:33] <Falstius> mkyb14: just run the install program using wine "wine setup.exe"
[09:33] <liam01> simonvallore, sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.list
[09:33] <gnomefreak> Necrocide, not sure how to change them
[09:33] <navarone> collinder if not you can simply adjust xorg.conf but I assume you have already installeddrivers?
[09:33] <mkyb14> heh where is that located?
[09:33] <tonyyarusso> simonvallore: sudo pico /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:33] <Necrocide> Ok
[09:33] <Necrocide> thanks anyway
[09:33] <Storkme> hi, i have a partition i need to get rid of but i don't know how
[09:33] <collinder> navarone: i installed drivers for nvidia and xinewhatever
[09:34] <gnomefreak> mkyb14, why not use gaim its pretty much same and already installed by default
[09:34] <alexandre> simonvallore> edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:34] <mkyb14> i have some plugins i use with trillian
[09:34] <navarone> collinder...then you may have to simply edit xorg.conf to enable nvidia...usually mean putting "nvidia" in driver section
[09:34] <collinder> navarone: how do i do that from where i am now?
[09:35] <mkyb14>  so where is this wine setup.exe?
[09:35] <tonyyarusso> mkyb14: Have you checked to see if there are gaim ones to do the same thing?
[09:35] <Falstius> mkyb14: there are a lot of plugins available for gaim too, and there is spell checking, and the interface is nicer.  I use trillium in windows but gaim in linux.
[09:35] <zandaa> Seveas: can you help set up your repository??? (it still does not work)
[09:35] <navarone> collinder you can edit text files in terminal...remove vidcard first and see if autodetect thingy works
[09:35] <MWettendorff> this n00b here is in badly need of help from some one that can help with instructions to apache/php/mysql setup
[09:35] <mkyb14> yes. ok i get that lol, but how do i install apps so i can play games etc?
[09:35] <collinder> navarone: ok doin that now...
[09:35] <tonyyarusso> mkyb14: No, wine is the command, setup.exe would be the setup program for whatever you want to install.
[09:35] <liam01> mkyb14: sudo apt-get install wine
[09:35] <mkyb14> oh
[09:36] <mkyb14> i did taht
[09:36] <simonvallore> Is there a program to edit the grub that would make life easier
[09:36] <diesel> MWettendorff: ask your question
[09:36] <gnomefreak> mkyb14, try typing wine in terminal
[09:36] <mkyb14> so it's like ">wine winamp.exe"?
[09:36] <mkyb14> i did
[09:36] <mkyb14> i add'd winamp to the list
[09:36] <liam01> simonvallore, use gedit
[09:36] <mkyb14> just don't know how to execute it
[09:36] <liam01> its pretty easy
[09:36] <simonvallore> i am
[09:36] <Falstius> mkyb14: wine "c:\program files\winamp\winamp.exe"
[09:37] <tonyyarusso> simonvallore: All you're doing is deleting a section entirely, so that shouldn't be to bad.
[09:37] <Falstius> or something like that, I'm not sure exactly where winamp is installed.
[09:37] <mkyb14> heh how to i install winamp to that directory though?
[09:37] <tonyyarusso> mkyb14: It should ask that while you're running the setup.
[09:37] <simonvallore> tonyyarusso, i need to add a section O_O
[09:37] <simonvallore> tonyyarusso, for my xp installation
[09:38] <alexandre> tonyyarusso> Hey, talking about grub, do you know how to change the default entry?
[09:38] <MWettendorff> Disel: i have installe apache/php5/Mysql, but i cant figure out how to make the apache use the PHP and the sql.
[09:38] <tonyyarusso> simonvallore: Ah.  I don't know of any auto-editor, but I have a dual-boot with XP so I might be able to walk you through it.
[09:38] <mkyb14> what i did was "winecfg" add the app to the list.... i dont' knwo that to do from there
[09:38] <tonyyarusso> alexandre: You mean the one that boots automatically?  Then yes.
[09:38] <MWettendorff> disel: i also need to setup away for me to admin the SQl from a windows PC.. and a way to uploade pages from that same PC
[09:39] <AbdulSpiegel> hi
[09:39] <simonvallore> tonyyarusso, i dual boot cxp and have done so succefully several time but this time its gheyed up
[09:39] <collinder> navarone: ok my computer is restarting
[09:39] <simonvallore> tony ill brb gonna try this
[09:39] <alexandre> tonyyarusso> That's exactly what I'm wondering. Whatever I try, it keeps booting the very first entry in the list.
[09:39] <collinder> navarone: sorry im at work were tryiong to get our gas turned on... its 52 in here
[09:39] <diesel> MWettendorff: How did you install apache/php5/mysql?
[09:40] <oggah> Hi, how to remove mozilla?
[09:40] <navarone> collinder...np...you seems to be having a busy day...lol
[09:40] <oggah> got mozilla and firefox installed. but want mozilla away.
[09:40] <collinder> navarone: i got that blue screen again where it says that its failed to start the x server
[09:40] <tonyyarusso> alexandre: Find the entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst, make sure it is uncommented, and then change the number to the entry you want to use (0 is first).
[09:40] <collinder> navarone: yeah and all my appts today are usually at night so it will be very cold in here if we dont have heat
[09:40] <MWettendorff> disel: sudo apt-get install Apache2.. and the same with PHP5
[09:41] <navarone> okay collinder ctrl-alt-f1 into another terminal
[09:41] <mwe> MWettendorff: did you read and follow the lamp wiki? once it's working you can use phpMyAdmin to manage the databases.
[09:41] <collinder> navarone: ok im in
[09:41] <navarone> collinder I am assuming you are on another computer atm...?
[09:41] <alexandre> tonyyarusso> Gee! It was so easy I didn't even see it... Talk about a tree hiding the frigging forest! ;-)
[09:41] <alexandre> tonyyarusso> Thanks a lot!
[09:41] <collinder> navarone: yes i have ubuntu on a lap top
[09:42] <MWettendorff> disel: and for the MySQl, i ran sudo apt-get insstall mysql-server, libapache2-mod-auth-mysql, php5-mysql
[09:42] <collinder> navarone: i just got so fed up with microsoft the other day
[09:42] <ProN00b> why am i getting
[09:42] <ProN00b> The following packages have been kept back:
[09:42] <ProN00b>   linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386
[09:42] <ProN00b> ?
[09:42] <tonyyarusso> alexandre: Glad to be of service!
[09:42] <mkyb14> ok i got it, but i get an error opening files for writing....
[09:42] <mwe> MWettendorff: you need to other things too. it's all in the wiki
[09:42] <bur[n] er> anyone know how to fix gmplayer so that it runs... says it needs a skin
[09:42] <Falstius> does ubuntu have a command line tool for configuring services, a chkconfig analog?
[09:43] <navarone> collinder ok...typ sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf  you will be asked for password...type user pass and enter...file will open for editting. Use pageup/dwn to scroll down to device section
[09:43] <tonyyarusso> ProN00b: As I understand it that is the default, although you can override it if you want to upgrade the kernel.
[09:43] <diesel> !lamp
[09:43] <ubotu> I guess lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:43] <collinder> ok
[09:43] <collinder> 1 sec
[09:43] <bur[n] er> Falstius: invoke-rc.d start/stop/restart service
[09:43] <diesel> MWettendorff:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:43] <MWettendorff> disel: thanks..
[09:43] <collinder> navarone: ok its blank
[09:44] <Falstius> bur[n] er: that sounds more like the "service" command
[09:44] <franfar> Hello to everybody! Do you know how to make the sound of videos made with Canon IXUS 500 work fine?
[09:44] <bur[n] er> Falstius: there's 'services-admin' for a gui... though I know you want command line
[09:44] <bobw> can i install a debian package file on my ubuntu server??
[09:44] <collinder> naarone: the last time i did this there was stuff here
[09:44] <bur[n] er> Falstius: yeah, you're right
[09:44] <navarone> collinder ok...you use arrow keys to move cursor...backspace deletes...in device section for vidcard what does it have...?
[09:44] <diesel> MWettendorff: You're on the right track, but still missing some things...specificaly libapache2-mod-php5
[09:44] <collinder> oh
[09:44] <MWettendorff> disel: doest that also explain how to set it up so i can FTP from another PC? ( running windows)
[09:44] <navarone> collinder  blank?
[09:44] <tonyyarusso> Can someone help me register gstreamer codec stuff as plugins with Firefox?
[09:44] <navarone> collinder> check what file path you used...
[09:44] <Falstius> I can use the gui, I can do it by deleting the links, but it would be nice to use a command line tool with dependency checking.
[09:44] <Tomcw> Hi, I'm new to linux, and I'm trying to get a Belkin F5D7050 wifi USB adaptor, which has RT2500 chipset to work on Ubantu, according to the Ubantu website, support for that particular chipset is built in and the wifi adaptor will work out of the box. When I go into SYSTEM>ADMINISTRATION>NETWORKING (in gnome) the wifi device is not shown. So does anyone have any ideas what's causing this?
[09:44] <Dr_Acemaster> when activating a network connection under system>administration>networking, is that the same as ifup connection?
[09:44] <mwe> MWettendorff: it doesn't
[09:45] <mwe> MWettendorff: just install and configure an ftp server for that
[09:45] <collinder> navarone yes, all i see is at the top gnu nano 1.3.8 the file name and then at the bottom (like a footer) it says new file
[09:45] <mkyb14>  wine "c:\program files\winamp\winamp.exe"  doesn't open the program after i installed it with WINE
[09:45] <collinder> file - /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[09:45] <BenUrban> how do i switch to hardware opengl mode?
[09:45] <BenUrban> (i use fglrx btw)
[09:45] <bur[n] er> mkyb14: use ~/.wine/drive_c/program files/...
[09:45] <tritium> mkyb14, why not use xmms, beep media player, or muine?  They're quite similar to winamp
[09:45] <tonyyarusso> mkyb14: Try it withough the quotes?
[09:45] <BenUrban> does ubuntu have something equivalent to "opengl-update ati"?
[09:46] <navarone> collinder you may have opens a new file...lol...okay path to file is this...and and X is X not x.../etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:46] <chrisx1> hey
[09:46] <MWettendorff> i better return, when im ready for that.. it is only 2  day since i startet playing with this OS
[09:46] <diesel> MWettendorff: I would not install ftp if all you want to do is work on MySQL.  I would install phpmyadmin which will allow you to work on MYSQL from any browser anywhere
[09:46] <collinder> ooooh
[09:46] <collinder> dAMN
[09:46] <collinder> LOL
[09:46] <bobw> can i install a debian package file on my ubuntu server??
[09:46] <chrisx1> !win32codecs
[09:46] <ubotu> it has been said that win32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[09:46] <bur[n] er> bobw: u "can" but it's not advisec
[09:46] <tritium> bobw, it's better not to.  Which one?
[09:46] <chrisx1> !java
[09:46] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[09:46] <collinder> shit my desktop just restarted
[09:47] <tritium> no foul language, please, collinder
[09:47] <collinder> sorry
[09:47] <tonyyarusso> bobw: I would assume so, although I'm just running desktop, not server.  Can you tell everyone what you've tried?
[09:47] <navarone> collinder ubuntu desktop?
[09:47] <tritium> no worries
[09:47] <mkyb14> says that "use command" not found
[09:47] <jdier> can anyone tell me where the config file is for the desktop menu?  I mean the menu that pops up when you right click in an empty space on the desktop
[09:47] <collinder> if you knew the day im havin... youd understand
[09:47] <MWettendorff> disel: 2 sec.. yo just burned a fuce here..
[09:47] <bobw> tritium, its a debian package called libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2
[09:47] <tritium> sorry to hear that, collinder
[09:47] <mkyb14> lol this is a pain... no i'm doing this to do it.. to learn i dont' care what program i use in wine
[09:47] <MWettendorff> disel: to much infomation i think
[09:47] <tritium> bobw, there should be an ubuntu equivalent
[09:47] <collinder> besides "foul language" in new york is like adding a comma
[09:47] <tritium> bobw, apt-cache search libstdc++
[09:47] <chrisx1> collinder, my pc crashed earlier n if u was in my family ud understand how stressed i get
[09:48] <collinder> navaron: no my computer just restarted, i think the power went out and then restarted
[09:48] <franfar> does somebody know how to make gdesklets start automatically every time I restart???
[09:48] <BenUrban> c,o,l,l,i,n,d,e,r,
[09:48] <chrisx1> im 15 n my dad pased away
[09:48] <navarone> aaaa collinder...fergitabotit
[09:48] <diesel> MWettendorff: one other thing...spelling my nick would be nice so that I can see that you are chatting directly with me
[09:48] <jdier> franfar, go to your sessions menu and add there
[09:48] <collinder> chrisx1: i have to surgically implant ptfe teflon and surgical steel into some guys privates at 9pm today
[09:48] <navarone> collinder ouch
[09:48] <collinder> think about that
[09:48] <rambo3> mkyb14 , tab your way to the program . cd .wine/c_ (tab)
[09:48] <collinder> navarone
[09:48] <collinder> nack in terminal
[09:48] <jdier> franfar - system, preferences, sessions
[09:48] <diesel> MWettendorff: why do you want to install FTP?  For what purpose?
[09:48] <tonyyarusso> bobw: If I remember correctly, it was libstdc++6.
[09:48] <collinder> back
[09:49] <mkyb14> wha's that mean
[09:49] <BenUrban> collinder: do you plan to anesthetize him first?
[09:49] <bobw> tritium, tonyyarusso , do i want the development files?
[09:49] <collinder> its illegal to do that in new york state
[09:49] <navarone> collinder type sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:49] <MWettendorff> diesel: want to be abel to upload webpages from my main PC.
[09:49] <chrisx1> collinder, thats ur job right? my dad was ill n doctors sed there ppl worse than him he died 3 days later...
[09:49] <tritium> bobw, well, what are you needing this package for?
[09:49] <chrisx1> the doctors in the uk are absolutly useless
[09:49] <collinder> benurban: anything that makes the area numb is illegal in new york state
[09:50] <BenUrban> ...
[09:50] <BenUrban> wtf
[09:50] <bobw> tritium, Lotus domino server
[09:50] <collinder> chrisx: i do body mod and piercings and make jewelry
[09:50] <BenUrban> ohh
[09:50] <tritium> bobw, you don't need -dev packages, then
[09:50] <chrisx1> kool
[09:50] <diesel> MWettendorff: cool, now I can tell that you are speaking directly to me...If you want a secure and easy way to upload web pages from a windows pc to your ubuntu box I would look into installing WinSCP on windows and ssh server on ubuntu
[09:50] <chrisx1> the doctors could of helped my dad ages ago
[09:50] <franfar> jdier - I'm sorry, but I don't know how to do that, I'm using X-Chat
[09:50] <chrisx1> he had emphysemia or something
[09:50] <BenUrban> so how do i turn on hardware acceleration with fglrx?
[09:50] <bobw> tritum, thanks ill try it out
[09:50] <chrisx1> they could perscribe some tables
[09:50] <chrisx1> to clear the disease
[09:50] <jdier>  can anyone tell me where the config file is for the desktop menu?  I mean the menu that pops up when you right click in an empty space on the desktop?
[09:50] <chrisx1> but they wouldnt
[09:51] <collinder> navarone: im in i got it
[09:51] <Stormx2> Firefox isn't printing properly.
[09:51] <mkyb14> ok i tab'd there
[09:51] <tritium> chrisx1, I don't believe emphysema can be cured with pills
[09:51] <BenUrban> jdier: i don't think there is one
[09:51] <rambo3> good
[09:51] <thegladiator> i am considering fresh ubntu install
[09:51] <chrisx1> i read on google
[09:51] <navarone> collinder ok pageup/dwn to scroll and find section Device with vidcard name in it
[09:51] <jdier> BenUrban, No way to change that menu?
[09:51] <thegladiator> can some help me with a few FAQ's ?
[09:51] <jdier> Franfar, are you running ubuntu?
[09:51] <diesel> thegladiator: yes, ask
[09:52] <Tomcw> Hello?  I'm new to linux, and I'm trying to get a Belkin F5D7050 wifi USB adaptor, which has RT2500 chipset to work on Ubantu, according to the Ubantu website, support for that particular chipset is built in and the wifi adaptor will work out of the box. When I go into SYSTEM>ADMINISTRATION>NETWORKING (in gnome) the wifi device is not shown. So does anyone have any ideas what's causing this?
[09:52] <BenUrban> jdier: i dunno for sure but i've never seen any reference to being able to change it
[09:52] <thegladiator> thanks...
[09:52] <tonyyarusso> chrisx1: Maybe slowed down, but not cured.
[09:52] <jdier> BenUrban, thanks
[09:52] <collinder> navarone: ok i see the other video card that i took out
[09:52] <BenUrban> tomaw-: try enabling usb ;)
[09:52] <tritium> chrisx1, don't believe everything you read on the internet
[09:52] <Tomcw> of course, it is enabled
[09:52] <navarone> collinder do you see nvidia anywhere?
[09:52] <collinder> navarone actually i see 2 sections for monitors
[09:52] <franfar> jdier - Yes, version 5.10, but I never used this program before...
[09:52] <BenUrban> tomaw-: what does dmesg say?
[09:53] <Tomcw> how do i do dmsg?
[09:53] <BenUrban> tomaw-: type 'dmesg' in a terminal
[09:53] <navarone> collinder there should be Monitor section and Something Screen with monitor mentioned
[09:53] <jdier> franfar - I was answering your question about how to start gdesklets automatically when a session starts.
[09:53] <BenUrban> !fglrx
[09:53] <ubotu> hmm... fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:53] <thegladiator> does ubntu have mp3 support ?
[09:53] <coz> hello all
[09:53] <diesel> thegladiator: yes
[09:53] <harfooz> hi all. I have breezy on my laptop, and when I boot it, there is a really, really long pause while the network (wired and wireless, I presume) try to locate a connection. I'd like to have them activated only when I manually do so after logging in.
[09:53] <thegladiator> by default ?
[09:54] <collinder> navarone: i see selection "device" and it identifies it as the voodoo and then it says driver nvidia
[09:54] <coz>  I get this problem all the time and always cannot remember how to do it
[09:54] <diesel> thegladiator: no
[09:54] <thegladiator> i have 5.10
[09:54] <thegladiator> i see
[09:54] <coz> I have a tar.gz package
[09:54] <thegladiator> and what about video acpabilities ?
[09:54] <franfar> jdier - Oh thanks, could you tell me how to do that? Is bcause is very annoing to start manually every time
[09:54] <collinder> navarone: and then under that it says selection monitor
[09:54] <jdier> franfar - from the gnome or ubuntu menu choose system, then choose preferences, then choose session
[09:54] <thegladiator> capabilities ?
[09:54] <coz> I want install it how do I do that
[09:54] <XxFREDdiexX> i need help running amercians army
[09:54] <harfooz> so that I can quickly boot, and then select the network that I want activated once booted.
[09:54] <tritium> coz, is there no ubuntu package of what you want to install?
[09:54] <collinder> navarone: and then under that ts selection screen
[09:54] <BenUrban> coz: tar -xzvf, configure, make, sudo make install
[09:54] <chrisx1> tritium, i went to see my dad today and he looked well peacefull and happy
[09:54] <navarone> collinder I am going to paste my Device section for my Geforce3...will proably apply to you as well...
[09:54] <diesel> thegladiator: what about video?
[09:54] <chrisx1> he was just led there tritium
[09:54] <collinder> ok
[09:54] <coz> no .deb package yet
[09:54] <navarone> !pastebin
[09:54] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[09:54] <tritium> chrisx1, sorry to hear that he is ill
[09:54] <thegladiator> like it wouldnt have divx avi support by default
[09:55] <thegladiator> so what will i have to do for that ?
[09:55] <tritium> coz, which software?
[09:55] <chrisx1> hes not anymore tritium
[09:55] <BenUrban> anyone know of a way to convert an ebuild to a deb?
[09:55] <XxFREDdiexX> how do i boot up amercis army
[09:55] <diesel> thegladiator: true
[09:55] <collinder> it should the only thing that isnt the same with nvidia is everything before mx and geforce 2s
[09:55] <Tomcw> Dmesg said too much to type in on the other computer - is there anything I should be looking for?
[09:55] <coz> BenUrban the -xzvf is that the package name
[09:55] <diesel> !restrictedformats
[09:55] <ubotu> well, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[09:55] <chrisx1> tritium, i think hes very happy
[09:55] <thegladiator> diesel, using synaptic what all can i install ?
[09:55] <harfooz> (lost my wireless for a second there!)
[09:55] <BenUrban> tomaw-: the last few lines after you plug in the device should refer to it
[09:55] <tritium> chrisx1, I'm very sorry.  I too lost my father.
[09:55] <chrisx1> tritium, how old r u?
[09:55] <diesel> thegladiator: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormat
[09:55] <tritium> chriswk, 32 now, 13 when he passed
[09:56] <maarten> hi
[09:56] <diesel> thegladiator: Enable more than the default repositories
[09:56] <chrisx1> yer tritium my youngest sister is 10 im 15
[09:56] <bobw> tritium, i remember the issue now......i need a package from oldstable, its on the debian website in /oldlibs/libstdc++2.9glibc2.1
[09:56] <diesel> thegladiator: for use with synaptic
[09:56] <chrisx1> anyhoo be back like 10 mins walkin dogs
[09:56] <Otis> I'd like to install Ubuntu on a machine that dual-boots into Windows and an old Mandrake install ... will the installer overwrite the existing boot loader and allow me to dual-boot between Ubuntu and Windows ?
[09:56] <tritium> chrisx1, take care
[09:56] <coz> BenUrbasn assume that i am a doof could you please be specific about this tar.bz
[09:56] <igle> hola
[09:56] <tritium> bobw, I see
[09:56] <franfar> jdier - Oh I see! but... the thing is that since Gdesklets is on the Programs menu, I can't find on that dialogue (startup programs)
[09:56] <tritium> !es
[09:56] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:56] <Tomcw> Unfortuanately, the wifi device is on this computer at the moment - but dmesg does refer to the device being disconnected
[09:56] <maarten> i am making changes to /etc/kde3/kdmrc, but they have no effect
[09:56] <navarone> http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/5565
[09:56] <Torez04> Hi. Does the restart command come defaultwith Ubuntu
[09:56] <Torez04> ?
[09:56] <bobw> tritium, is there a place on ubuntu's site where i can get the .deb....im brand new to ubuntu
[09:57] <tritium> coz, what's the software?
[09:57] <MWettendorff> diesel: let me do 1 thing at the time. im a old man, and my fuches burns over a litle easy, when it comes to Linux..
[09:57] <navarone> http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/5565
[09:57] <maarten> any idea why?
[09:57] <thegladiator> diesel, and what about the boat loader ?
[09:57] <tritium> bobw, there may not be that particular package, given its age
[09:57] <thegladiator> will it keep my fc4 and XP ?
[09:57] <coz> it is gnocky-0.0.3.tar.bz for nokia phones
[09:57] <navarone> collinder go to this url and transfer this section to the vidcard device section in your conf file http://pastebin.ubuntulinux/5565
[09:57] <thegladiator> like i dont wanna remove it straighaway
[09:57] <diesel> thegladiator: what about the boot loader?  Ask the question man
[09:57] <Rockshmo> could anybody PM me with assistance?
[09:57] <maarten> /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc that is
[09:58] <bobw> tritum, does ubuntu have a search package area/
[09:58] <diesel> MWettendorff: Have you installed libapache2-mod-php5 to get php5 to work with Apache2?
[09:58] <thegladiator> diesel > currently > fc4 has grub installed and it asks me for the kernel etc...so when i install ubntu what happens ?
[09:58] <crimsun> http://packages.ubuntu.com
[09:58] <jdier> franfar  you are not looking for start up menu.  You are looking for the systems menu.  At the bottom or top of your screen there is a panel or menu bar that has the ubuntu logo, then <applications> <places> <system>....  yes?
[09:58] <crimsun> it's also available via the firefox search tab in the upper right corner
[09:58] <collinder> it doesnt work
[09:58] <collinder> the link
[09:58] <Lewix> toshiba M45-s169
[09:58] <crimsun> s/tab/text entry field/
[09:58] <thegladiator> diesel, hope u get the question :)
[09:58] <Torez04> Why does my Ubuntu say command not found with the command 'restart'
[09:58] <navarone> http:pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/5565
[09:59] <diesel> thegladiator: No, I don't understand the question.
[09:59] <MWettendorff> diesel: not yet.. im reading the guide you gave a link to...
[09:59] <Otis> I'd like to install Ubuntu on a machine that dual-boots into Windows and an old Mandrake install ... will the installer overwrite the existing boot loader and allow me to dual-boot between Ubuntu and Windows ?
[09:59] <Lewix> has someone got a toshiba M45-S169 or a graphic card ATI RADEON XPRESS 200M
[09:59] <collinder> navarone: the link doesnt work
[09:59] <psusi> Torez04: because there is no such command
[09:59] <Dr_Acemaster> Otis yes
[09:59] <bur[n] er> Otis: yep
[09:59] <psusi> Torez04: maybe you meant shutdown -r now?
[09:59] <Otis> Dr_Acemaster: thanks !
[10:00] <navarone> http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/5565
[10:00] <MWettendorff> diesel: is there a way that i can uninstall it all, so i can follow that guide right down to the dot?
[10:00] <Torez04> Nah. I'm trying to do an init.d/networking restart
[10:00] <Torez04> And it's having none of it
[10:00] <collinder> navarone: got it thanks
[10:00] <franfar> jdier - yes, I found that place on System>Preferences>Sesions>Programs at startup right?
[10:00] <jdier> franfar  you want the <System> menu  from there you want the <Preferences> menu from there choose <Sessions>
[10:00] <chalcedony> Falstius: still on ? (maybe people are done calling me now ;)
[10:00] <Otis> Dr_Acemaster: but wouldn't that mean that the installer has to be able to understand the existing bootloader and to "migrate" it to the new one ?
[10:00] <collinder> navarone: its agp
[10:00] <jdier> franfar, you are rocking now!!!
[10:00] <thegladiator> diesel -> like when i boot fc4 menu comes up asking my OS to boot XP and FC4 ( 2 kernels)
[10:01] <franfar> jdier - thanks!
[10:01] <navarone> collinder this should get your x sever started...but you may need help with mouse or keyboard as well
[10:01] <thegladiator> diesel, initially , what happens when i install ubuntu ?
[10:01] <collinder> navarone, ok ill try thanks
[10:01] <khonis> hello
[10:01] <navarone> collinder mine is agp as well
[10:01] <maarten> i want to setup a passwordless login for my 4 year old daughter. any idea how to do that?
[10:01] <chalcedony> well.. anyway, the Ubuntu computer is seeing the OfficeJet7200 printer and shows three printing jobs: Pending Printer-stopped. The printer is actually ON and looks fine but isn't responding at all. Falstius or someone?
[10:01] <diesel> thegladiator: the same thing will happen with Ubuntu.  I install windows first and then I install Ubuntu.  Grub (the default Ubuntu) boot loader should recognize your windows parition
[10:01] <coz> Ok guys I am trying to install an app for nokia phones named "gnocky"
[10:01] <collinder> navarone. oh ok
[10:01] <coz> it is in a tar.bz package
[10:01] <coz> how do I install this?
[10:02] <ubuntu_> hi, i need help with partitioning, i'm using the livecd right now. what i want to do is merge all partitions into one
[10:02] <coz> tar.gz
[10:02] <Stormx2> checking for   gstreamer-0.8 >= 0.8   gstreamer-control-0.8 >= 0.8... configure: error: you need gstreamer development packages installed !
[10:02] <diesel> MWettendorff: You could probably just start from where you are at the moment and follow the guide
[10:02] <rambo3> there is option for autologin on gdm config
[10:02] <thegladiator> diesel, and the fc4 options will remain as well , i am going to install in a diff partition
[10:02] <franfar> but, the thing is that when I say add - it asks me for a program that I can't reach because it's placed in a menu (Gdesklets - accesories)
[10:02] <Stormx2> >.> But what are the gstreamer dev packages called?
[10:02] <bur[n] er> ubuntu_: you shouldn't do that... you should keep a swap
[10:02] <navarone> hmmm...are agp devices id'ed as pci in xorg.conf?
[10:02] <diesel> thegladiator: yes
[10:02] <bur[n] er> ubuntu_: but... "sudo gparted" will help out
[10:02] <thegladiator> diesel, i see
[10:03] <ubuntu_> bur[n] er, i ran that, i don't understand it
[10:03] <recon0> does anyone know how to add ssh v.1 support to sshd?
[10:03] <mdeboer> i am making changes to /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc, but they have no effect
[10:03] <Torez04> psusi, I'm trying to restart networking. How do I do it if there's no such restart command, which according to guides on forums, there is..?
[10:03] <ubuntu_> bur[n] er, hence why i needed help
[10:03] <diesel> thegladiator: so you have windows on partition 1, fc4 on part. 2, and want to install Ubuntu on partion 3?
[10:03] <bur[n] er> ubuntu_: good luck :)
[10:03] <DrBair> recon0:  config files are in /etc/sshd
[10:03] <thegladiator> diesel, correct
[10:03] <ubuntu_> bur[n] er, you're not helping?
[10:03] <jdier> franfar - click the add button then type <gdesklests> in the Startup command box
[10:03] <MWettendorff> diesel: if i can figure out where that is :)
[10:03] <triode> I need help setting up a USB sound card, can anybody help me?
[10:03] <collinder> navarone: there is also a section that says selection screen and it lists that the voodoo3 is the device
[10:04] <kentoq> Hey
[10:04] <Stormx2> Hi
[10:04] <recon0> DrBair,so i have to edit a config file? i should be ok
[10:04] <kentoq> Could anyone assist a bit
[10:04] <bur[n] er> ubuntu_: it's tough... if vino did reverse VNC, I'd be all about it
[10:04] <diesel> thegladiator: Grub should handle those paritions just fine.
[10:04] <diesel> thegladiator: *should* being the important word here
[10:04] <ubuntu_> it says i have /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda5, why do i have two?
[10:04] <thegladiator> diesel, i see and what about the software package ? like kde is available ?
[10:04] <Tomcw> Hello? Does anyone have any idead on how I can get my wifi USB thing to work on ubantu (see messages above)?
[10:04] <kentoq> How to get my Broadcomm-WLAN-drivers to Ubuntu.?
[10:05] <bur[n] er> ubuntu_: what format are both of them?  one is probably a swap
[10:05] <franfar> jdier - ok, what about the order? (it says 50), I left it as is.
[10:05] <ubuntu_> bur[n] er, one is ext3 and the other is extended
[10:05] <triode> Hello, can anybody help me set up my usb sound card, please?
[10:05] <chalcedony> well.. anyway, the Ubuntu computer is seeing the OfficeJet7200 printer and shows three printing jobs: Pending Printer-stopped. The printer is actually ON and looks fine but isn't responding at all. It prints fine from debian with lp filename.
[10:05] <bur[n] er> ubuntu_: and inside that extended is something
[10:05] <diesel> thegladiator: even if you install ubuntu (not kubuntu, not xubuntu) you can still get KDE and use KDE as the default desktop...just involves more steps and knowing a little bit about what you are doing.
[10:05] <jdier> franfar - I left mine along at 50
[10:05] <bur[n] er> ubuntu_: /dev/hda1 == your install
[10:05] <mycket> ubuntu_, did you repartiotion your hdd? Or do you have another OS on it?
[10:06] <diesel> thegladiator: if you want KDE desktop by default, then I would download Kubuntu
[10:06] <bur[n] er> ubuntu_: /dev/hda5 is probably a swap
[10:06] <ubuntu_> mycket, i screwed up the partition while trying to install ubuntu
[10:06] <ubuntu_> bur[n] er, it's 8GB
[10:06] <Otis> are you guys saying that windows partitions will be recognised by installation regardless of what kind of bootloader was there first ?
[10:06] <franfar> jdier, thank you very much for your help, you've been very nice!
[10:06] <thegladiator> diesel, nah i like many dke utilities...kview , kpdf
[10:06] <HyPer7> !fixres
[10:06] <ubotu> fixres is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:06] <bur[n] er> ubuntu_: well, why do you have it, whats on it?  mount it?  u sure it's not a swap... gparted tells you
[10:06] <collinder> navarone: and hopw do i get out of this once i am done
[10:06] <diesel> thegladiator: then I would download Kubuntu and install that
[10:06] <ubuntu_> also, i have an "Unallocated" partition which is 20GB, what can i do with that?
[10:07] <jdier> franfar - I am a newbie too.  I just happened to have figured out that exact thing last week.
[10:07] <ubuntu_> bur[n] er, it doesn't say swap anywhere
[10:07] <diesel> thegladiator: or do you just want to use those utilities and still have gnome?
[10:07] <MWettendorff> diesel: i just ran  sudo bin/mysql_install_db --user=mysql and now it sais that i have to copy some support-files/mysql.server to the right place. how adn where do i finde thoes?? (If that is something i need to do)
[10:07] <mycket> ubuntu_, you should create 2 partitions one ext3 or reiserfs for the system and one swap.
[10:07] <Torez04> Can someone please tell me if there's a command to restart etc/init.d/networking?
[10:07] <bur[n] er> ubuntu_: it probably says something... what does it say under "Filesystem" ?
[10:07] <mdeboer> i want to setup a passwordless login for my 4 year old daughter. any idea how to do that? i read http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-27995.html this thread but it does not really come to an answer
[10:07] <navarone> collinder have you added the section about nvidia?
[10:07] <bobo_> Torez04: "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"    should work; "sudo networking restart" in the /etc/init.d dirctory won't work
[10:08] <collinder> navarone: i was supposed to add cause i replaced
[10:08] <Izzy> anyone do ubuntu server installs for a few $$?
[10:08] <navarone> collinder "selection" screen or Section Screen?
[10:08] <ubuntu_> bur[n] er, the unallocated one says nothing, /dev/hda1/ says "extended"
[10:08] <triode> I need help setting up a USB sound card in ubuntu
[10:08] <triode> anybody?
[10:08] <thegladiator> diesel i need to keep those things on gnome
[10:08] <ubuntu_> mycket, i don't know how
[10:08] <mycket> ubuntu_, if you want to install your system you can use the installproram to create these
[10:08] <bur[n] er> ubuntu_: unallocated shouldn't say anything because it's formatted
[10:08] <thegladiator> diesel, can we chat pvt
[10:08] <Torez04> bobo_, I keep getting told that the command isn't found though
[10:08] <ubuntu_> bur[n] er, the partition name is unallocated
[10:08] <collinder> navarone: i replaced what was in the selection "device" section but there is also a selection "screen"section
[10:08] <bur[n] er> ubuntu_: are you sure hda1 says extended?  did you install ubuntu?
[10:08] <navarone> collinder...have you saved file?
[10:08] <Tomcw> Does anyone kow hoe I can make my rt2500 wifi card work on ubantu, I have tried what it says on the website
[10:08] <collinder> navarone: no
[10:08] <oggah> running the ubuntu-lite-desktop thing now. checked used ram. 60Mbyte ;)
[10:09] <bur[n] er> ubuntu_: unallocated means you can make a partition ont hat space
[10:09] <ubuntu_> bur[n] er, of course, i was using it a minute ago
[10:09] <coz> anyone know how to install a .tar.gz package
[10:09] <diesel> thegladiator: yeah, you can still get kde apps while using gnome.  For example, I have k3b (an excellent disk burning app) installed on my Gnome desktop and my Gnome desktop is running the xfce window manager.
[10:09] <thegladiator> hi
[10:09] <bur[n] er> ubuntu_: now rezise your hda1 onto that unallocated area
[10:09] <ubuntu_> bur[n] er, it doesn't let me
[10:09] <diesel> thegladiator: you can do all kinds of things
[10:09] <mycket> ubuntu_, do you have a live-cd or the install-cd? The install cd guides you throgh the install process
[10:09] <navarone> collinder under Monitor section and device nvidia does it have a Section "Screen" with vidcard?
[10:09] <tonyyarusso> Can someone help me manually make symbolic links to plugins for Firefox?
[10:09] <psusi> coz: .tar.gz is not a package format... it's a gzip compressed tar archive
[10:09] <psusi> coz: i.e. .zip
[10:09] <ubuntu_> bur[n] er, it says i'm only allowed to resize /dev/hda1/ to 28GB max
[10:09] <coz> thanks but how to install?
[10:09] <bur[n] er> ubuntu_: apply the changes to delete the first partition
[10:10] <diesel> MWettendorff: I don't know the answer to your question...sorry
[10:10] <ubuntu_> oh right
[10:10] <triode> hi
[10:10] <bur[n] er> ubuntu_: and what free space is left?  is there another partition at all? or just /dev/hda1
[10:10] <thegladiator> diesel, my broadband speed is limited
[10:11] <psusi> coz: you don't 'install' it... you might extract the files that are stored in it if you want... double click on it
[10:11] <franfar> Oh, it's very welcome help form all people on this linux thingy
[10:11] <franfar> Bye!
[10:11] <collinder> navarone: selection screen lists  identifier "default screen" device "3dfx voodoo 3" monitor pnp default depth 16 subselection displays - and then it lies about size choice
[10:11] <collinder> xcause you cant choose any of those sizes
[10:11] <collinder> just 640 x 480
[10:11] <recon0> DrBair, i've been through the config file man page and i can't figure out how to get ssh v.1 support
[10:12] <chrisx1> Back
[10:12] <thegladiator> diesel, and i need to get those k applications mostly + kdevelop + all those necessary multimedia players adn codecs
[10:12] <drkfiber> Hi.
[10:12] <Izzy> anyone do ubuntu server installs for a few $$?
[10:12] <MWettendorff> diesel: that is oki.. i was just hoping. i figure that it aint that important.. going to next step
[10:12] <thegladiator> diesel, and java ofcourse
[10:12] <navarone> http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/5566
[10:12] <bryan> Hey people, installed Ubuntu last night, just looking for help to get my Sound working.
[10:12] <thegladiator> diesel, hwo much mb do u think these will be ? my speed is 256 kbps hence i am curious
[10:12] <drkfiber> Anyone use MythTV on 5.10. I am trying to import DVD's and nothing happens when I select that option. I am using all the standard packages from apt-get.
[10:13] <Hobbsee> !tell bryan about sound
[10:13] <navarone> collinder try that...it is my section but is for Geforece 3...I don't know if it is suitable totally for your card...but it may get you up and running
[10:13] <diesel> !java
[10:13] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:13] <chrisx1> !tell chrisx1 about ntfs
[10:13] <triode> bryan, what kind of sound?
[10:13] <Torez04> According to Ubuntu, when I type "sudo etc/init.d/networking restart", "etc/init.d/networking" is command not found. Changing it around so it's "sudo restart etc/yadaryadar" says restart isn't a command. Shutdown -r to try and reboot the system says I have to be root. Is my Ubuntu bummed?
[10:13] <Tomcw> Hello, I'm sorry to keep asking, but does anyone know how I can get my Belkin F5d7050 aka RT2500 wifi usb adaptor to work on ubantu. According to the website it should work out of the box, but for me it does not even show up in network settings?
[10:13] <thegladiator> okay about java
[10:13] <navarone> torez sudo shutdown -r now
[10:13] <thegladiator> what about the rest ?
[10:13] <holycow> heh
[10:13] <dotsony> if I write a custom /etc/network/interfaces script will the network administration tool step on it later?
[10:14] <holycow> i killed totem yet the sound is still playing for the movie
[10:14] <chrisx1> !ntfs
[10:14] <ubotu> it has been said that ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[10:14] <ubuntu__> bur[n] er, i'll show you a screenshot: http://img491.imageshack.us/img491/2750/screenshot8fu.png
[10:14] <bobo_> Torez04: just did it on my breezy and it worked-maybe look to make sure networking command is in the /etc/init.d directory. also "sudo ./networking restart" should work in the /etc/init.d directory
[10:14] <thegladiator> kdeveleop for software development and movie players codecs and k utilities
[10:14] <diesel> thegladiator: if you have ubuntu installed and want to get KDE apps, then you will have a lot of MB to download because dpkg will download the KDE dependent libraries
[10:14] <mmiikkee12> is there an install method that will let me choose the packages i want?
[10:14] <Kyral> mmiikkee12: server install
[10:14] <navarone> Torez04 you need sudo in command
[10:14] <mmiikkee12> ok
[10:14] <psusi> Torez04: what the heck are you trying to do exactlY/  reboot the computer?
[10:14] <thegladiator> i see how much do u think that cud run upto ? 500 MB+ ?
[10:14] <Kyral> mmiikkee12: it will leave you with noting but the commandline
[10:15] <mmiikkee12> Kyral: that won't install mysql, apache, ... ?
[10:15] <collinder> navarone: i replaced everything in sectio "device" but in the next section section "monitor" it just saYS identifier pnp monitor options dpms then the next section is section screen and it lists the voodoo stuff
[10:15] <mmiikkee12> oh ok
[10:15] <Kyral> mmiikkee12: nope
[10:15] <navarone> http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/5566
[10:15] <thegladiator> *sigh* indian broadband is pathethic
[10:15] <navarone> collinder collinder ^^^
[10:15] <ubuntu__> bur[n] er, did you get that?
[10:15] <bur[n] er> ubuntu__: do you have a lot of work done on that install already?
[10:15] <Torez04> I am trying to restart my network! I'm having too many problems with wireless, seemingly like a few other people in here! I just want to restart my networking, but nothing is working, and as you may have guessed, I'm now getting a tad ticked off...
[10:15] <ubuntu__> bur[n] er, yes
[10:15] <diesel> thegladiator: where is India?  Bangalore?
[10:16] <holycow> anyone know what would be running to keep on playing the sound of a .mov file when totem is killed off?
[10:16] <bur[n] er> ubuntu__: in that case, just resize hda5 to the full size of hda1
[10:16] <collinder> navarone... yeah thats whats in my section "device" section b ut theres still all that voodoo stuff below that
[10:16] <thegladiator> this is the  offer that we get out here...256 kbps/2.5 gb per month/for 20$
[10:16] <Kyral> Torez04: sometimes the best thing to do is walk away for a while
[10:16] <thegladiator> not in bglr now
[10:16] <thegladiator> not in bangalore now
[10:16] <thegladiator> but everywhere it is the sam
[10:16] <navarone> Torez04 you can shutdown reboot...but you need to use sudo try sudo shutdown -r now to reboot immediately
[10:16] <ubuntu__> bur[n] er, you mean make hda1 smaller and make hd5 bigger?
[10:16] <psusi> Torez04: I'm not sure exactly what you mean by 'restart networking'
[10:16] <thegladiator> broadband rates
[10:16] <dell500> anyone here know how to  convert flac to mp3??
[10:16] <bur[n] er> ubuntu__: nope... hda1 is a container that holds hda5
[10:17] <navarone> collinder...delete any voodoo section/part
[10:17] <coz> have .tar.gz for app
[10:17] <bur[n] er> ubuntu__: you set up a "logical" or "extended partition"
[10:17] <coz> no .deb package yet
[10:17] <thegladiator> i guess in west u get a decent connection for 25$
[10:17] <ubuntu__> bur[n] er, hda5 is already as big as it can be
[10:17] <coz> how do Iinstall this???
[10:17] <wftl> Is there some non-command line way to identify what the program name of a running GUI app is?  For instance, I know that the CD player is gnome-cd and I can find that out by running "ps ax" and looking, but is there some graphical way for the command line shy?
[10:17] <Necrocide> How do I close port 1027, and port 1026?
[10:17] <bur[n] er> ubuntu__: it can get bigger... it can fill hda1
[10:17] <psusi> coz: I told you... you don't install it... you can extract the files from it... double click on the file to open it
[10:17] <thegladiator> it is sad , but had my broadband been faster i wud have no hesitation in installing ubuntu straightway
[10:17] <Torez04> I'm trying to go off a few guides on the forums. One of the solutions to a problem about the default gateway constantly changing, is to edit a file, then supposedly type, "Sudo etc/init.d/networking restart" to put the new file into effect seemingly.
[10:17] <drkfiber> wftl: System Monitor
[10:17] <ubuntu__> bur[n] er, it says the max size is 8582MB
[10:17] <thegladiator> i wouldnt have cared about packages to be installed
[10:17] <Ivan> i have 2 file systems on my harddrive how do i enter the fat32 system throow fluxbox?
[10:18] <collinder> navarone: ok now how do i save>?
[10:18] <bur[n] er> ubuntu__: it's wrong... restart gparted?
[10:18] <tonyyarusso> Torez04, That might work if you preface etc with a slash; what directory were you in an the time?
[10:18] <diesel> wftl: yes...I have used the app before, but I am away from a GUI, so I can't tell you the exact name.
[10:18] <diesel> wftl: of the app
[10:18] <Stormx2> Ivan: it mounted?
[10:18] <navarone> collinder ctrl-x and press y for yes
[10:18] <collinder> ok
[10:18] <Torez04> just the default directory, not moved anywhere after opening terminal
[10:18] <bobw> so what can happen if I install this old libstdc++ debian package to my ubuntu server???...it does install i tested it out
[10:18] <Ivan> Stormx2 mounted?
[10:18] <wftl> drkfiber : thought about that. I was looking for something that didn't require you knowing the name of the running app.
[10:18] <ubuntu__> bur[n] er, i restarted it and it says the same
[10:18] <wftl> Thanks, though.
[10:18] <Torez04> tried prefacing etc with slash and dot slash. Nothing.
[10:19] <tonyyarusso> wftl: I'm not sure about running ones, but I did find that for things in the Applications menu, I could find their name by dragging an icon to the desktop, viewing the properties, in the launcher section.
[10:19] <bobo_> wftl: system monitor
[10:19] <navarone> collinder now you can reboot or try startx
[10:19] <drkfiber> add System Monitor to your menu bar. then click on it. You can see what Apps are running. You don't need to know the name.
[10:19] <dell500> anyone know of a script that might do flac to mp3? i've gotten 2 that don't quite work
[10:19] <ubuntu__> bur[n] er, /dev/hda5/ will not go any bigger then 8582
[10:19] <thegladiator> diesel, hwo much mb approx ?
[10:19] <bur[n] er> ubuntu__: i don't know what to say... you can enlarge it though... is it mounted by chance?
[10:19] <Stormx2> Ivan: Mounting is allowing you to use the partition. Could you access it on gnome?
[10:19] <thegladiator> diesel, any guesses ?
[10:19] <collinder> wow
[10:19] <bur[n] er> ubuntu__: can you move it first? then resize it?
[10:19] <Ivan> i dont know how??
[10:19] <collinder> ok it just spit a bunch of stuff at me 1 sec
[10:19] <Ivan> where do i press
[10:19] <Torez04> Kyral, walking away sounds like a really good idea, but sadly, it's not gonna get me any closer to getting this darned machine to broadcast my internet across my house through my wireless card.
[10:19] <collinder> fatal server error n o screens found
[10:19] <diesel> thegladiator: do an apt-get install -s <appname> and this will tell you how many mb you will havve to download.  The -s is for simulate
[10:19] <Kyral> Torez04: I mean then you look at it differently
[10:19] <bobw> tritum, so what can happen if I install this old libstdc++ debian package to my ubuntu server???...it does install i tested it out
[10:20] <navarone> collinder try restarting
[10:20] <thegladiator> i am on fc4 now
[10:20] <chrisx1> msn messenger is starting to suck now
[10:20] <awb4422> everyone i try to setup a wireless connection, the gateway device gets erased and the profile i last left in there isnt set as the default
[10:20] <collinder> navarone: restaring nowe
[10:20] <ubuntu__> bur[n] er, how do i move it?
[10:20] <collinder> now
[10:20] <Ivan> Stormx2 is there any 1 to enter it throw fluxbox?
[10:20] <psusi> Torez04: cd /etc/init.d and ls... is there no networking file there?
[10:20] <Stormx2> Ivan: WhaT?
[10:20] <navarone> collinder I asssume this install was standard...not server or anything
[10:20] <thegladiator> dieslel, can i do it in fc4 ? apt-get ?
[10:20] <Ivan> fat32
[10:20] <Stormx2> Ivan: All I'm asking is could you access it when you had gnome?
[10:20] <collinder> navarone. yeah version 5.1
[10:20] <ardchoille> chrisx1: M$ apps have always sucked
[10:20] <Ivan> Stormx2 i am using grub to boot
[10:20] <chrisx1> yer
[10:20] <Stormx2> Ivan: I know.
[10:20] <Torez04> Yes there is.
[10:20] <Ivan> Stormx2 i never tried
[10:21] <Stormx2> Ivan: Could you access the partition when you were using GNOME?
[10:21] <Stormx2> Ivan: Oh?
[10:21] <chrisx1> the fact there servers are beggining to lag loads
[10:21] <Ivan> Stormx2 i dont know how to do it?
[10:21] <Stormx2> Ivan:
[10:21] <psusi> Torez04: then sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart should work
[10:21] <Stormx2> Ivan: try: "ls -l /media" and pastebin the result.
[10:21] <collinder> navarone: failed to start x server
[10:21] <Torez04> FINALLY we have managed to get somewhere with the restart command, but it's now telling me it's failed...
[10:21] <thegladiator> dieslel, can i do it in fc4 ? apt-get ?
[10:21] <wftl> drkfiber (and others). The system monitor is a great way to do this, but if I wanted to give this to a non-command line savvy individual, they might not be able to make the connection between the running app and the command listed there.  gnome-cd is a pretty obvious one, but not everything is going to be.
[10:22] <Stormx2> thegladiator: FC doesn't use aptitute
[10:22] <Torez04> wait a sec, I think I know why
[10:22] <navarone> collinder is the computer connected to internet?
[10:22] <Stormx2> thegladiator: It uses RPMs
[10:22] <bur[n] er> ubuntu__: man gparted... gparted.sf.net...
[10:22] <collinder> navarone yes
[10:22] <bur[n] er> ubuntu__: google
[10:22] <thegladiator> ah yep
[10:22] <Ivan> Stormx2 i only get 2 cd roms and 2 floppys
[10:22] <zukalk> hey all
[10:22] <wftl> Appreciate the input.
[10:22] <Torez04> Nope. Fail on reconfiguring networking interfaces.
[10:22] <Stormx2> !tell Ivan about mounting