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(_james_/#kubuntu) ohh i dont know about live CD's im afraid12:33
(_james_/#kubuntu) probs only start chaning stuff like that on a full install12:34
Coolio10ok12:34
_james_unless you do something like this at the start...12:34
naliothCoolio10: /etc/xorg.conf12:34
_james_linux screen=1024x76812:34
_james_instead of just pressing enter to boot12:34
Coolio10so if i made another partition for example G because i have windows installed on partition c would windows ask me to choose which one on startup or will it only choose the linux one by default12:35
Coolio10because i would still need windows12:35
hugelmopfCoolio10: the (k)ubuntu installer will install a bootloader for you, where you can choose either windows or kubuntu12:36
_james_nah if its installed then there is a config file12:36
_james_you can normaly select it as easy as you can in windows12:36
_james_but if not just change a few lines in a file and you will get it :)12:37
DrGayuscan you run windows apps in kubuntu?12:37
hugelmopfDrGayus: look into wine (http://winehq.org/)12:37
naliothCoolio10: grub (the linux bootloader) will ask you which OS you want to use each session12:38
_james_so guys how come KDE of Gnome?12:38
troyhey, wasn't karamba supposed to be integrated into 3.5? was it removed in the kubuntu packages?12:38
Hobbseetroy: it's now apt-get-able12:39
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chaniCoolio10: windows will do its best to deny linux exists. linux will let you choose what you want to do :)12:40
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demon71does anyone know much about the program apollon?12:41
troyDrGayus: apt-get install wine12:41
chaniCoolio10: I had a dual-boot machine at school, and hte guy I had to share it with once wiped out linux because windoze told him it was free space.12:41
troyDrGayus: I've had no problems with it12:41
_james_lol12:41
DrGayusawesome12:41
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DrGayusone more q... :P12:41
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DrGayusi got a 2wire dsl router/modem connected by usb,... and the usb driver i got is for windows only... what can i do?12:42
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chaniusb internet? o.0 yuck. hmm. I've never had to deal with those things12:43
troyDrGayus: if it's got an ethernet port on it, use that instead -- or cross your fingers (I've had USB modems work before)12:43
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Coolio10so if i install ubuntu or kubuntu grub will automatically install with it and let me choose which system i want to boot?12:44
chaniCoolio10: yes.12:44
troyCoolio10: indeed12:44
_james_aye12:44
PhantomsDadHi.  If a user is installing kubuntu, would it make sense they would install a package named kttsd_3.5.0-0ubuntu0breezy1_i386.deb (note "ubuntu" in name)?12:44
Coolio10also will ubuntu create a partition for me if i didnt do it manually12:44
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troyPhantomsDad: that's an accessibility package, optional I'd assume12:45
chaniCoolio10: the install cd has that option yes12:45
HobbseePhantomsDad: may as well just apt-get it - you dont need to get the separate .deb for it12:45
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_james_is anyone using 64bit kb? Im still on 32bit with my 3200 64bit chip, is it worth going up?12:45
Coolio10thanks for all the help guys!12:45
Coolio10bye12:45
chaniCoolio10: it'll give you several choices about where to install. you do have free unpartitioned space, right?12:45
Coolio10ill come again when i get bored12:45
_james_c ya cool @)12:46
PhantomsDadI'm not kubuntu user (I am debian user).  Someone is reporting the package is really hosed.  Where would I download it from?12:46
PaloDeQuesoBecause of the fact that I can't seem to download random deb packages because of ubuntu's naming conventions for packages, is there more repositories that I can add that anyone knows of?12:46
troy_james_: I'm using amd64 kubuntu, it works as expected with one major exception: flash12:46
_james_Im a web designer :(12:46
Coolio10i have 51GB so i wouldnt worry12:46
troy_james_: you can get it to work, but it's a real PITA12:47
_james_thats kinda a essential12:47
_james_dammit12:47
_james_btw how to i only talk to you. im new to irc :( dont wana flood the room while asking about 64 bit12:47
troy_james_: /query troy12:47
PaloDeQueso_james_: are you talking about the plugin for browsing or creating flash things?12:47
_james_both, i need be able to test other peoples sites12:48
Coolio10The total size of my 1 C partition is 153GB And i have 52GB Free12:48
chani_james_: doesn't seem like flooding to me :) I like to listen in on this stuff12:48
_james_while trying to get flash development migrated from wine apps to native linux apps12:48
_james_oh ill  do open then :)12:48
_james_is it that much faster?12:48
PaloDeQuesobecause I believe you just add multiverse to your repositories... then install mozilla-flash-plugin to view them, and on kde-apps.org there's a flash editor for kde that is pretty much a clone of macromedias12:48
demon71Can anyone help with a Apollon question or other P2P software12:48
troyPaloDeQueso: yeah, except flash plugin doesn't work in amd6412:49
troyPaloDeQueso: you have to set up a 32bit chroot and such, big hassle12:49
PaloDeQuesooh damn12:49
Coolio10and for the person who asked why is kubuntu so good then ubunta i only use it because it seems easier for a noob like me and more friendly aswell:-)12:49
_james_well my office is my main pc (64bit) dual screen i use for codding but i have my laptop next to me, if the speed increase was worth it i could always do flash on the lappy...12:49
PaloDeQuesoI didn't realize12:49
PaloDeQuesowell, did any one read the eWeek article on osnews?12:50
troy64bit isn't a huge increase in most cases12:50
_james_did not know you could chroot to diffrent bit numbers :S12:50
PhantomsDadCan noone tell me where to download kttsd_3.5.0-0ubuntu0breezy1_i386.deb or shall I just tell user kubuntu sucks.12:50
hugelmopfPhantomsDad: it is one of the official unofficial KDE 3.5 packages for Breezy. you can get them at http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde3512:50
_james_oh rite :(12:50
PhantomsDadhugelmopf: thanks12:50
hugelmopfPhantomsDad: what kind of attitude is that?12:50
PaloDeQuesoabout the conference to bring together a lot of things in the linux projects.12:50
chaniPhantomsDad: have you googled for it?12:50
PaloDeQuesolike there's now a committe of people from kde and gnome working together.12:50
troy_james_: you can run 32bit programs on 64 bit mode if you have all the 32bit libs installed that it requires12:51
troy_james_: for example, opera (which is 32bit only) runs just fine out-of-the-box on my amd64 system12:51
_james_I do want to convert, if not for speed then for the sake of supporting advancing open source testing, as im an active advocate of the movement but this is my work and my business and if its still to unstable then i will have probs!12:52
_james_is that just a case of using 32 bit repositories? do you need to overide the conflict warnings?12:52
neoncodewill a 32bit program run fine on the 64bit version of linux?12:52
hugelmopfneoncode: yes, if all libraries it needs are installed in 32bit as well.12:52
troy_james_: stay with the 32 bit install -- the only places you'd find really big gains is for memory intensive programs that do video encoding, for example12:52
_james_ok thanks for the advice :)12:53
troyneoncode: currently the 32bit-on-64bit for  *ubuntu is a bit awkward - not something I'd recommend to someone new to linux12:53
_james_ill stick to 32 for now i think untill its a bit more usefull12:54
_james_quite intrested in using gentoo on 64bit mode, in theory it would be very very very fast12:54
troyI've heard rumblings that they are trying to come up with a better way to do 32bit on 64bit for dapper - but I don't have any real information to back it up...12:54
robotgeek_james_: everything works in theory :)12:54
_james_lol12:54
troy_james_: 64bit does not mean "twice as fast" - it means larger memory registers12:54
_james_sorry that i cant reply privately and have to reply openly btw its because im not registered, i dont use irc12:55
robotgeeki prefer to save time by not compiling at all12:55
_james_lol troy im aware ;) but I can live in hope it means twice as fast :P12:55
troywhich can sometimes translate to faster, but not always - most apps are at most 5% faster12:55
robotgeekthen, there's always prelinking12:55
_james_maybe i will just go over to 64 bit ubuntu, then overclock and pretend :)12:56
troyprelinking is silly - for the few seconds I save on boot, I introduce binary incompatibilities -- not worth it12:56
Hobbseei tried prelinking, and got sick of it12:57
_james_only ever done it outside of ubuntu12:57
_james_would not dream of it now, dont wana upset apt12:57
neoncodedo you recon I should shell out for a 64bit processer then?12:58
troyneoncode: personally, if the choice is between 32bit and 64bit and the price difference is not huge, go 64bit (you don't lose anything - you can always install the 32bit distro)12:59
_james_may as well, its going to be standard in 12-18 months12:59
troyneoncode: if you have gobs of money, try the 64bit duel core for lots of fun :)12:59
_james_aye thats what i have done troy12:59
_james_only the single core tho :(01:00
neoncode64bit dual core - why, what are the advantages?01:00
troyneoncode: twice as fast :P two CPU's on one chip01:00
_james_better looking box on the retail version ;)01:00
troythat too :)01:00
neoncodehow much would the latest AMD 64 bit dual core cost? in GBP if possible?01:00
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_james_they cost about 500 quid01:01
_james_<<<in southampton, bought my 64 bit single core about a month back01:01
neoncodetroy: GBP = Great British Pounds01:01
sonorousi.e. more than a kick in the bollocks01:01
_james_quid = Great British Pounds (Sterling)01:01
sonorous:(01:01
_james_;)01:01
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neoncode=D01:02
_james_ebuyer seems to have the best prices  tho their service sucks01:02
sonorousyeah, ebuyer are good when they're not messing you around01:02
_james_i recommend ording one of their sata drives, they screwed my order and sent me a 370 xeon :D01:02
sonorousgood evening btw01:02
demon71can anyone help me with installing java on kubuntu breezy01:02
sonoroushaha01:02
Hobbsee!javadeb01:02
ubotuhmm... javadebs is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/01:02
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_james_my 3.2 (single core 64bit) was 120 i think01:03
neoncodeAre athalon's the best?01:03
_james_expensive, but no where near the dual core price01:03
_james_personal prefrence, i think they are01:03
troyneoncode: I'd agree, personal preference01:03
_james_its kinda a linux vrs windows argument when it comes to intel vrs amd01:04
neoncodeAre the althalon(sp?) chips dual-core? and 64bit?01:04
demon71ubotu: so i went there but you gotta remember im retarted, what to do when im there?01:04
ubotuI'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, demon7101:04
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_james_althalon no, X2 yes, samperon kinda :S mix of 32 and 64 bit cores01:04
neoncodeok WTF is a turion?01:05
troydemon71: ubotu is a robot01:05
neoncode!ubotu01:05
hugelmopfneoncode: the mobile 64 bit AMD processor01:05
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.01:05
_james_cheep version of the ath i think01:05
hugelmopf_james_: no!01:05
demon71good to know....01:05
demon71thanks01:05
_james_oh rite lol, i bow to hugel's superior chip knowlege lol01:05
troyget an X2 if you can afford it -- it's freakin' sweet!01:05
neoncodewhat about a: AMD athlon 64 FX?01:06
neoncodeor is X2 better?01:06
_james_damit stop googling chip names ;P01:06
neoncode_james_: I went on the AMD website01:06
_james_x2 is better FX is more for home use, X2 is high end work stations01:06
neoncodeWhat about for gameing?01:06
_james_lol neon, damn the internet01:07
_james_FX supposed to be better for games01:07
neoncode:P01:07
troyneoncode: not all games are written to take advantage of multiple cores yet though01:07
neoncodeand is the FX dual core?01:07
_james_your the one on amd.com you tell us! :P01:07
neoncodeHey I don;t know01:07
chanimm. amd.01:07
_james_i think so ;)01:08
neoncodeHyperTransport technology... Oooo I wonder where they got that name from01:08
_james_erm if your suggestion that they stole it from intel its actauly the other way around01:08
_james_they have had it for years but made a big deal of it after intel started with it too and were advertising it as if it was something new lol01:09
neoncode_james_: Oooo01:09
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neoncodeI know nothing about this sort of thing01:09
neoncode>_<01:09
_james_As a linux user i think we should use AMD, because intel is so far up MS' A$$01:09
neoncodeCan you swear on this chanel?01:10
troyprobably against channel usage guidelines01:10
_james_duno, never realy had to try01:10
neoncodeanyway, moveing on!01:10
troydepends how "Official" this channel is01:10
_james_dont intend to either, i dont consider ass a bad word :S01:11
_james_aye... lol01:11
neoncodeoh with linux it's nvidia>ATi right?01:11
_james_yea linux is nvidia and amd01:11
_james_windows is ATI and intel01:11
neoncodeMy current computer is ATi and intel...01:11
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_james_least officaly thats how it stands, dont know how that holds up in the 'feild'01:11
neoncodeWell i'm going to build a new compter and I definalty think i'm going with AMD and Nvidia01:12
lqbI've kubuntu on my ibook, powerpc.... At the begining it suspend ok when I close the computer.... but now, it doesn't suspend :S I don't know what happen :S apmd is running and I don't modify any configuration of the apm01:12
_james_better driver support that way around as far as i know01:12
troymy ATI pci express board works fine with ATI supplied drivers, even on amd6401:13
_james_anyway its 12:12 and i aint spending my whole friday night being a geek :) night guys01:13
neoncodeI'm not going to bed untill 5 AM01:13
neoncode;)01:13
troythey are definately doing a lot better now - about equal in support to nvidia - still a little anal retentive though :)01:13
Insom-anyone know why sed 's/\?//' doesn't remove the ? characters?01:13
_james_lol nerds with coffee, what a combo01:13
_james_bye lol01:13
neoncodeI don't realy like coffee01:13
neoncodetea is better01:13
Insom-mmm coffee01:13
neoncodeand tea!01:14
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hugelmopflqb: sorry, i am not ignoring you, but i don't have a ibook, thus no answer.01:14
lqbuhm :( ok... thanks01:15
Coolio10hi again01:15
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neoncodeHey, micro$oft -finaly- got round to doing a 64bit version of windows, how long ago did linux have 64bit?01:15
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demon71 can anyone help with adept problem?01:17
neoncodedemon71: What now?01:17
demon71i added a bad repos and adept wont open now.01:18
spolahow can i have when i plug in my mp3 player an icon appears on the desktop ?01:18
demon71not a repos but a database01:18
neoncodedemon71: just reset your sources list?01:18
demon71sorry01:18
demon71cool how do i do that01:19
demon71will anything be lost?01:19
neoncodewell any new repos you added yes01:19
neoncodebut if it's a database thing then I dunno?01:19
neoncodesudo apt-get update prehaps?01:19
hugelmopfspola: this should happen automatically in Kubuntu 5.10. does it not?01:19
demon71the error "The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or something similar. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem."01:19
neoncodedemon71: Did you try those commands?01:20
spolano it doesnt, whats the program called? i know gnome-volume-manager, but whats the kde one?01:20
demon71when i run those i get, apt-get update- " E: Type 'http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list"01:21
neoncodeok01:21
neoncodedemon71: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to the paste bin01:22
hugelmopfspola: how did you install kde? with the kubuntu installer, or with the kubuntu-desktop package, or with the kde packages themselves?01:22
chanispola: it's a nice standard usb connection, right?01:23
spolai apt-getted kubuntu-desktop package from the before-current-one ubuntu (gnome)01:23
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spolachani, yeah it works no problem in gnome or xp01:23
chaniI heard my bug is fixed, though.. I just dunno whether the fix is in breezy01:24
demon71neoncode: ive got /etc/apt/sources.list opened up but how/where do i paste in bin?01:24
hugelmopfspola: and does the drive show up in media:/ ?01:24
neoncode!pastebin01:24
ubotumethinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org01:24
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spolano it doesnt get mounted01:24
chanispola: it doesn't show up in /media either?01:25
chaniit just does nothing?01:25
spolachani, excactly01:25
spolawait, brb, im gonna restart kde01:25
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chanihrm. not the same as my problem then, evil.01:25
chanispola: dmesg *might* give some clues01:25
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spolaok i plugged it in, nothing happened again, but ill check dmsg01:28
hugelmopfspola: i was not talking about it being mounted in /media, but about it showing up in KDE's "media:/" ioslave, which it can do, even if it is not mounted, i believe.01:28
spolaoh01:29
spolahey cool it's there ! :-)01:29
spolano icon on desktop tho01:30
hugelmopfspola: configure your desktop (rightclick) behaviour to show unmounted devices.01:30
spolan when i click it it tries to mount it but it doesnt seem to succeed in doing so01:30
spolaoh ok01:30
hugelmopfhmm, i don't know, why it doesn't succeed.01:31
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hugelmopfyou might need to look at dmesg for that01:31
DrGayusbummer, kubuntu install failed... poop... failed install base system...01:31
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spolahmm no partition found, aight i think i can handle it from here (fdisk n mkfs.vfat right?)01:33
hugelmopfsounds right. good luck01:33
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DrGayusi selected a free partition on a slave disk, format as XFS, mark as bootable, and set to be root  "  / " , but base system failed to install around 6%... is there something wrong in my partition config?01:35
neoncodeHave any of you ever used liquid cooling systems?01:36
spolareal men submerge their pc in olive oil :p01:40
chaniDrGayus: well, boot flag is irrelevant to linux iirc, and I've never used XFS (not even sure what fs it is), but I don't see how any of that would make it fail01:40
chanihow did it fail?01:40
chaniand how big is the partition?01:40
DrGayusits 8.5gb01:40
DrGayusat about 6% a red box came up and said 'failed to install base system' and to check bootstrap.log ...01:41
chaniDrGayus: and what did bootstrap.log say?01:41
DrGayusim in windows... and it cant read that partition now...01:42
neoncodespola: I've seen pics of that online, how does that go then?01:42
[Relic] how do I permanently kill bluetooth?   aka what is the master list for starting processes?01:42
DrGayusi dont know how to view it anyway from linux...01:42
chaniDrGayus: I'd suggerst booting knoppix or something and looking at the partition then01:42
DrGayusoh, ok01:43
spolaneoncode, A) buy pc B) buy lots of olive oil C) submerge A in B :p01:43
chanifrom there you can read the log, and get back on irc if you have more questions :)01:43
[Relic] ain't popeye gonna get mad if you do that?  :)01:44
DrGayusk ill try thanks01:44
chanispola: lol01:44
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[Relic] also doesn't that get your CDs a tad messy?01:45
neoncodeI think you have to not submerge your PSU and CD-ROM01:45
nalioth[Relic] : you have your optical and hard drives above the oil, just the mobo is submerged01:45
chani[Relic] : I saw something in the config app for starting/stopping serviuces... but I've no idea if that's what you want01:45
[Relic] the fish tank computer set up :)01:46
neoncodewhould that actualy work?01:46
[Relic] is it init.d?01:46
chani[Relic] : that's part of it.01:46
neoncodeI realy need to goto kubuntu-offtopic sometime...01:46
chani[Relic] : /etc/init.d is where hte start/stop scripts are stored. something else calls them... in gentoo I use rc-update01:47
chanibut I'm pretty sure kubuntu doesn't have rc-update01:47
neoncodeOh what's the best grapics chipset to use with linux?01:47
chanineoncode: personally, I use nvidia with the proprietary drivers. but I'm not much of a gamer01:48
neoncodechani: I know but should I get the GeForce 7 then?01:48
chanineoncode: no idea. can't even remember what I have... 5xxx I think...01:48
chaniwhee, almost 5, I'm outta here01:49
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naliothneoncode: if you'd like to join #kubuntu-offtopic i'd be glad to yak about cooling techniques01:54
neoncodenalioth: Deal01:55
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SkrottoHi. I get "/usr/lib/amarok/amarokapp: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libkjs.so.1: undefined symbol: pcre_free" when I try to start amarok from kubuntu (latest) with kde 3.5 (from kubuntu packages). Any clue?02:08
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freeloveSkrotto: do u see ur storage media....just check:)02:13
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aromanhi02:21
aromanmy system's developed a weird clock skew02:21
aromanif I update the clock with ntp it's okay for a few hours, and then the skew becomes noticeable02:22
aromanie. now my computer's clock is 21:0002:22
naliotharoman: is your PSU ok?02:22
sambagirlmy clock says 20 past eight ;)02:22
sambagirltwenty past eight02:22
sambagirlthat is very cool02:23
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Coolio10hi02:28
Coolio10which is easier, kubuntu or ubuntu?02:28
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Coolio10also is grub automatically installed with them both and when you are installing them can you create partitions02:29
Tm_TKubuntu <302:29
Coolio10which is easier, kubuntu or ubuntu?02:29
Coolio10ok02:29
Tm_Twhat you mean?02:29
aromanCoolio10: both are the same IMO... whichever you like better, KDE or GNOME02:29
freelovekubuntu!02:29
aromanbut then again, I use a console for most things...02:29
Tm_TI don't02:29
Tm_TI use Konsole02:30
SkrottoHow would one go about to remove the enitre KDE from kubuntu (for the purpose of reinstalling it)?02:30
Tm_T;--P02:30
freeloveCoolio10: go for kubuntu....u wont regret it:D02:30
Tm_Tfreelove: whaat?! ;p02:30
naliothCoolio10: there is no difference, really, ubuntu uses gnome and kubuntu uses kde02:31
naliothCoolio10: you can have both on your box and use a different one each day02:31
naliothSkrotto: in a terminal, type "sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop"02:32
Tm_Tbut I hope you all stay away from gnome!!11 ;---P02:32
Skrottonalioth: Will that *remove* everything and then install, or simply install stuff (rewrite) existing stuff?02:33
Tm_Tnalioth: uh, that reinstalls dependencies too? :o02:33
naliothCoolio10: for more choice, you also have xubuntu02:33
Tm_Tok, I'm too tired and hungry to be serious or reasonable02:33
naliothSkrotto: you'll have to open adept and remove everything that starts with "k" to remove everything02:33
naliothSkrotto: open a terminal and type "man apt-get" and you'll find many options02:34
Skrottothanks02:34
naliothSkrotto: also, i find synaptic has more features than adept, for this kind of thing02:35
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Skrottoi see02:35
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Coolio10is it better to create seperate partiitons for each system or use 1 partition because i heard it doesnt really matter because grub is automatically installed with ubuntu or kubuntu so you can choose both operating systems and both of the systems let you create partiitons during install.02:39
djk_ubuntu und kubuntu use the same base system.. unless you want to install a different distro as well there's no need for a different /02:42
Coolio10should i make windows a different partiiton and ubuntu and kubuntu on theyre own one together?02:43
djk_that's a must, yes.02:43
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Coolio10i havent yet installed kubuntu but i am going to make a new partiiton and then install kubuntu but how much space will the partition need because im taking the space from my C Drive02:48
Coolio10if you know any good free partition tools it will be great02:48
djk_gparted, qparted, qtparted, parted..02:50
naliothCoolio10: use qtparted for resizing ntfs partitions02:50
Coolio10how much space does kubuntu need?02:50
Tm_Tit depends02:51
djk_nalioth: isn't gparted better since qtparted hasn't been developed in quite a while?02:51
Tm_Tyou can fit it to 1G or it might need 20G02:51
Coolio10i have 52GB Free02:51
naliothqtparted uses ntfsprogs while gparted does not02:51
djk_nalioth: you're wrong02:52
djk_nalioth: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/features.php02:52
kkathmannalioth is never wrong02:53
djk_well, according to that site he is ;)02:53
kkathmanhey may not be exactly right, but he's never wrong :)02:53
djk_hehe02:53
kkathmanLOL02:53
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naliothdjk_: is that the version of gparted that is in our liveCDs ?02:53
djk_nalioth: i don't know which version is in the liveCDs, i don't have any liveCDs02:54
djk_of ubuntu..02:54
naliothdjk_: then qtparted is a safe answer, since it's had ntfsprogs usability longer than gparted02:54
kkathmanwhy would either be on the live CD?02:56
kkathmanmaybe on the install02:56
kkathmanthen again I may not know everything about gt/qtparted02:56
djk_the more important question is.. does he even have NTFS partitions..02:57
kkathmanif qt/gtparted is for disk partitioning and formatting there wouldnt be much need for it on a LiveCD right?02:58
djk_that depends. there's always the possibility of need ;)03:00
naliothgparted comes on the ubu livecd, not sure if qtparted comes on the kubu livecd03:00
naliothdjk_: it is good to assume so, since no shipping windows box has had fat32 in years03:01
djk_nalioth: btw, gparted had ntfs support since 0.0.7 which was released on 2004-12-0403:01
naliothdjk_: wow. i did not know that03:01
djk_i just checked the changelogs :)03:01
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kkathmanwell Im not doubting that it does..Im just asking why03:03
djk_and 0.0.9 was just released about 2 weeks ago so the livecd most likely comes with 0.0.803:03
naliothdjk_: iirc, nobody could resize their ntfs from the hoary livecd, probably where i got my idears03:06
djk_weird, hoary should have had 0.0.8 as well..03:06
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djk_kkathman: for example one could want to create a partition for his mp3s or for his games.. thus there'd be a need for it..03:09
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kkathmanI suppose03:10
djk_what's on the install-cd?03:11
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Coolio10you only have live cd?03:12
Coolio10i have kubuntu and ubuntu dvd03:12
djk_no, i meant, which partitioner is on the install-cd.03:12
Coolio10i could check quickly03:13
Coolio10which does everyone think is better? I mean straight from the core so KDE Or Gnome?03:15
naliothdjk_: ntfsprogs is built into the isntaller03:15
naliothdjk_: i believe the program on the installer is a called partman03:15
djk_nalioth: do you know if there'll be the possibility of using reiser4 in dapper?03:16
naliothdjk_: i'm not up on their plans03:16
djk_who would know?03:17
naliothhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake03:18
naliothhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperGoals03:18
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=== Topic for #kubuntu: Fix a beastie for Kubuntu Hug Day, #ubuntu-bugs | Dapper Flight 1 http://tinyurl.com/d5gfk | KDE 3.5 is out http://tinyurl.com/dlrf9 | Breezy fixes in breezy-updates | Unofficial Kubuntu FAQ http://kudos.berlios.de | Please don't paste into the channel: use http://kubuntu.pastebin.com | IRC info and channels in other languages: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat
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(Coolio10/#kubuntu) ive seen a few screenshots of an ubuntu install and when you select a partiiton they are named IDE so how would you know which partition?03:26
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Coolio10 ive seen a few screenshots of an ubuntu install and when you select a partiiton they are named IDE so how would you know which partition?03:26
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nmorseWell guys, I finally got around to upgrading my gaming machine and general video use box to Breezy from Hoary.03:30
nmorseNow the monitor won't work at all.03:30
nmorseEvery time I start X the monitor goes into powersave mode.03:30
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Coolio10kubuntu or ubuntu?03:35
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nmorseKubuntu.03:36
nmorseFor the record, it's a KDS XF7i monitor with a Radeon 9600 video card.03:37
nmorseI'm using the ATI binary drivers.03:38
Coolio10is it a fresh install of kubuntu?03:38
nmorseNo, an upgrade from Breezy.03:39
nmorseI've got too much stuff on the hard drive to want to do a fresh install.03:39
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MrBlowtatoesHello, how do i get X to user nvidia-glx?04:01
viviersferm04:02
MrBlowtatoesuse*04:02
viviersfsudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:02
viviersfedit the Driver "vesa" in the gfx part of it04:02
viviersfand restart X04:02
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MrBlowtatoesHeh, i'm very new tolinux, i have kubuntu insatlled, and i am trying to get my nvidia card work, so, how do i do all that?04:03
MrBlowtatoesmainly the secodn two04:03
MrBlowtatoessecond*04:03
seth_khi MrBlowtatoes, you'll want to read this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto04:04
MrBlowtatoesthat's for gnome04:04
viviersfyo seth_k04:04
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MrBlowtatoesthe people in  #ubuntu told me to come here, after giveing me that page04:04
seth_kheya viviersf04:05
seth_kMrBlowtatoes, what kind of nVidia card do you have?04:05
viviersflol04:05
MrBlowtatoesNvidia GeForce FX 5200 128MB04:05
viviersf"a fast one"04:05
seth_kright, then just follow the directions here, word-for-word: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia04:06
MrBlowtatoesi'm useing it now, but all opengl stuff is REALLY slow04:06
seth_kright04:06
seth_kthat binary driver will enable OpenGL04:06
MrBlowtatoesi can't it tells me to go to menus i don't have04:06
seth_k(right now t's using software emulation)04:06
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seth_koh right, b/c you don't use Synaptic04:06
seth_kokay, here's how you do it :)04:06
viviersflol04:07
seth_kMrBlowtatoes, open Konsole (the terminal) and paste this: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list04:07
MrBlowtatoesheh, about 50 warnings poped up04:08
MrBlowtatoesbute kate opened good04:08
seth_kalright, now look for lines that include a big URL and the word "restricted". I think there are two?04:09
MrBlowtatoestheres about 1004:09
seth_kThey'll begin with a # mark. You want to remove that mark, so the first thing on the line is "deb"04:09
seth_kMrBlowtatoes, but only 2 that contain the word "restricted"04:09
MrBlowtatoesactually, all of them are restricted04:09
MrBlowtatoesno, all of them to04:09
seth_kerm04:09
MrBlowtatoesdo*04:09
seth_kalrighty04:09
=== seth_k wonders what sort of funky sources.list you've got, but no matter :)
seth_kremove the # from each line containing "restricted"04:09
MrBlowtatoesi've added to it04:09
seth_kah04:10
MrBlowtatoesi rmeoved the commnted ones also04:10
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MrBlowtatoes the # symbols04:10
seth_kalright04:10
seth_kclose kate04:10
seth_kand do: sudo apt-get update04:10
MrBlowtatoesW: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release: Unknown error executing gpgv04:10
MrBlowtatoesother wise it completed successfully04:11
seth_kah, you're using us. It's down right now... you may want to open the file back up and change to http://archive.ubuntu.com04:11
naliothMrBlowtatoes: install gnupg04:11
MrBlowtatoesgnupg?04:11
seth_knalioth, no... that's a US archive problem today methinks04:11
MrBlowtatoesis already the newest version04:12
naliothseth_k: says error 'executing' gpgv04:12
seth_knalioth, unknown error executing it... it's returning wonky checksums from US today04:12
naliothah, then i guess we're back to gpgerr04:12
naliothMrBlowtatoes: edit your sources.list to say archive.blah, instead of us.archive.blah04:13
seth_kMrBlowtatoes, then paste this: sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-386 && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable04:13
seth_kand when you restart X, your drivers will be up and running :)04:13
MrBlowtatoeshow do i restart?04:15
naliothMrBlowtatoes: ctrl-alt-bksp04:15
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MrBlowtatoeswhen it downlaods a 23 mb archive, then  unpacks it, does it deleetd the archive after wards?04:16
MrBlowtatoesor is it leaveing all this on my HDD?04:16
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MrBlowtatoes[only 8GB HD, need to convswerve] 04:16
gahalI'm trying to make a flyer in Openoffice Draw, but the program keeps locking up after a minute or two of use, anyone have any ideas for me to try?04:17
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MrBlowtatoeswow, it works04:23
MrBlowtatoesand mu res is 1600x120004:23
seth_k:)04:24
MrBlowtatoesheh04:25
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MrBlowtatoesall hell is breaking loose on the fireworks screen saver [this is how i test my nvidia card] 04:25
MrBlowtatoeshey, i think i foujnd a bug in kubuntu aswell04:27
BigKahunaI'm using a moodin KDM theme and was wondering if it would be possible to hack in a sound effect. Basically I want my KDE start-up sound to play as soon as my password has been accpeted as opposed to when KDE loads04:28
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vitoany VNC experts here ? I need help with loading vncserver at boot without logging in05:10
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CarstenPi cant unmount /media/sdb1 (its a compact flash card reader) via gui, what is the command line command for that?05:16
naliothCarstenP: umount /media/sdb1 or use sudo in front if it doesnt work as a regular user05:18
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CarstenPnalioth: thank you! Any idea how i can mount it again in that way that i have the right to write stuff on it?05:20
naliothCarstenP: i'm not familiar with how automount does permissions, and i don't want to advise you in ignorance and perhaps botch your box05:21
CarstenPnalioth: okay, i understand that, but arent it just one line to the "etc/fstab" ?05:23
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DelvienAnyone know how i change the color of the window list ( the applications that are currently open)05:23
naliothCarstenP: i dont think the fstab has anything to do with the automount, but you could try it05:23
Hobbsee!mount05:25
naliothHobbsee: ubotu crashed in the flood attack05:25
Hobbseeugh05:26
Hobbseeflood attack?05:26
naliothsome idiot flooded 600 usernames at once into #ubuntu05:26
naliothknocked most of us offline for a second05:26
Hobbseeugh05:27
naliothand knocked ubotu plumb out05:27
LeeJunFanThe joys of irc.05:27
naliothyes, attacks at channel level are useless on a services-controlled network05:28
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Delvienwhy would anyone do that ?05:28
naliothto irritate everyone05:28
Delvienlol people are stupid05:29
Delvieni dont think they get that stuff like that doesnt irritate people more than it makes them laugh05:29
naliothwell, when it knock you offline on a dialup, it's irritating05:29
LeeJunFanI dunno, SPAM irritates me. :)05:29
Delvienshouldnt let it...05:30
Delvienonly people in IRC channels are anal about that sorta stuff.05:30
LeeJunFanI think they should have a SPAMmer season right after deer season.05:30
poimensup nalioth :)05:31
LeeJunFanDelvien: run an ISP where you have a few thousand people who complain to you about the SPAM it'll irritate you too.05:31
naliothpoimen: samesame05:31
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DelvienLeeJunFan well tell them not to be wussbags :P05:31
LeeJunFanDelvien: if I didn't care about making money there's a lot of things I tell them :p05:32
LeeJunFanDelvien: but they don't listen anyway, look at just how "common knowledge" it is to not open executables in e-mails, but yet viruses still spread.05:33
DelvienLeeJunFan well do you tell them that spam isnt your fault05:33
os2machobbsee you around?05:33
Hobbseeos2mac: yeah05:33
poimennalioth : :-)  me very happy :) on my KDE 3.5  Kubuntu Box  x86_64 build runs nice and all hardware works exept for the tvtuner :) ( and the smp but that is just a matter of compiling my own kernel)05:33
naliothpoimen: smp is available in the repos05:34
poimenyeah but for the AMD_x86-64 k8 or something like that the one for the em64t (intel 64) it has something wrong :(05:35
os2macanyone know how I can get kaffeine working correctly?05:35
os2macit won't play .avi files05:35
poimenos2mac you got the plugins?05:35
naliothpoimen: use 686-smp (or compile your own)05:35
os2macthought I did... but I may have lost them...05:35
MrBlowtatoescan i use synaptec with kubuntu?05:35
os2macgot a link?05:35
neoncodeMrBlowtatoes: Yup05:36
MrBlowtatoesapt-getable?05:36
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neoncodeHuh? If you mean can you get it from apt-get then yes05:36
LeeJunFanLeeJunFan tell os2mac about codecs05:36
poimennalioth I will compile my own I think I have done it  in the past bur but it have pased like a year wiout compiling it so I will have to read a lot lol05:37
LeeJunFan:)05:37
MrBlowtatoeswhat si the commnd?05:37
LeeJunFanos2mac: take a look here: http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs05:37
kkathmanhey LeeJunFan :)05:37
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LeeJunFanhowdy.05:37
Delvienhey kkath05:37
MrBlowtatoeswhat is the package name?05:38
MrBlowtatoessynaptec don't work05:38
kkathmanDelvien:  How goes it my friend?05:38
Delvienpretty good05:38
kkathmanexcellent!05:38
naliothLeeJunFan: please dont do that05:38
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LeeJunFanwhat?05:38
zsarkerhello05:38
naliothLeeJunFan: mention the 'guide, use this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:39
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naliothLeeJunFan: or help.ubuntu.com05:39
aj_calrissianHi guys05:39
kkathmanlol nalioth :)05:39
Delviennalioth ubuntuguide is still usefull if you know how/when to use it05:39
naliothDelvien: yes, but for new to *nix users, it can be quite problematic05:40
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LeeJunFannalioth: sry, just googled for ubuntu codecs and that's what I found. Didn't mean to bunch up your tighty whities :)05:40
aj_calrissiancan anyone help with installing firefox 1.5?05:40
Hobbseeaj_calrissian: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion05:41
naliothLeeJunFan: that info is in an ubuntu safe format at the above URLs i linked05:41
kkathmanaj_calrissian: just go to the site, download the linux version and untar it in your home directory05:41
kkathmanthen set a symlink to /usr/bin05:41
aj_calrissian8-O05:41
kkathmanworks like a champ :)05:41
kkathmangood luck aj_calrissian :)05:41
aj_calrissianthats all well and good, but I'm really a n00b05:42
LeeJunFannalioth: gotcha, I just couldn't find the right link and didn't see anyone else offering an answer, it was the best I had at short notice.05:42
os2macLeeJunFan when ever I try to play a file... I get an error saying something about couldn't enter a null value... and it defaults to caca no matter what I select.05:42
naliothLeeJunFan: just remember "help.ubuntu.com"05:42
kkathmanaj_calrissian: not a probl...let me know if you need any further assistance05:42
aj_calrissiank05:42
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LeeJunFanos2mac: that's a new one by me. I'm able to play almost every format using xine as the multimedia engine. I installed libxine1c2, kaffeine-xine, and win32 codecs, and configure kaffeine to use the xine engine.05:46
aj_calrissian@kkathman I just downloaded it from the FF site. it went ot my /tmp/ directory, will that make any difference when I go to install it?05:47
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kkathmanaj_calrissian: not really..but if you could move that to your home directory it will be beneficial05:48
kkathmanuse the mv command to do so05:48
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aj_calrissianI think I got it05:49
kkathmangreat!05:49
kkathmanaj_calrissian: yer doing good!05:49
aj_calrissianok not yet, but I completed the first steps as far as getitng it into /opt05:49
Kububtu_Drew3Is it normal to see a little lag when using the live DVD?05:50
kkathmancan you copy that tar file to your home directory??05:50
kkathmanaj_calrissian:  mv firefoxfile ~05:51
aj_calrissianI don't think i need to05:51
poimensomeone have a 2.6 howtoo about compiling it??05:51
aj_calrissianI have it expanded into my /opt/firefox dir05:51
kkathmanthats kewl..just as long as you put a symlink in /usr/bin05:52
kkathmanbrb05:52
aj_calrissiank05:52
aj_calrissianULTIMATE w00tness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!105:54
aj_calrissianthank you thank you thank you thank you KKathman!05:55
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chaoticgeekhello all06:03
chaoticgeekubotu: hi06:03
ubotuwhat's up06:03
kkathmanback06:05
kkathmanyer welcom aj_calrissian :)06:05
kkathmanhope you have many hours of goodness!06:05
aj_calrissianoh yeah.06:05
aj_calrissianright now I'm just waiting for Kynaptic to finish updating everything06:05
aj_calrissianthen I'll venture into Apache Land06:05
kkathmangreat!06:06
aj_calrissianyeah06:06
aj_calrissianI was having a problem earlier when I was trying to use Kynaptic to install apache, but I'm thinking perhaps I needed these upgrades06:06
aj_calrissianat any rate I'll know in a bit once the upgrade is done06:07
kkathmangreat06:08
aj_calrissianbtw, why would i be getting a "disk full" error when I try and add a line to sources.list?06:08
kkathmanhmmm odd06:09
aj_calrissianI think i was trying to add the line for the KDE 3.5 url but it gave me an error each time06:10
aj_calrissianlet me find the url I was trying and see if I can recreate it for you06:10
kkathmanhmm.. how are you on disk space, just for kicks?06:10
aj_calrissianso I can get the exact error message06:10
kkathmanit could be a coincidence message06:10
aj_calrissianwell I should be fine. I have an 80GB drive06:10
aj_calrissianbut then again it may not have setup my partitions correctly06:11
kkathmanhmm thats what I would look at06:11
aj_calrissiannot sure though. I have three HD icons on my desktop, the first one says 77G Media and it is node /dev/hdc106:12
aj_calrissianthe second is 1.0k media node /dev/hdc206:12
Hobbseeaj_calrissian: try df -h -T and paste the output to pastebin06:12
kkathmanhmm06:12
Hobbseethat'll tell you how much space you have06:12
aj_calrissiank06:12
aj_calrissianin Konsole?06:13
kkathmanim sorry someone else will be helping you now aj_calrissian06:13
Hobbseeaj_calrissian: yes06:13
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aj_calrissiandf -h -t06:13
Hobbseedf -h -T06:13
aj_calrissianthats ok, thanks for the help kkathman06:13
aj_calrissianahh06:13
robotgeekhey seth_k Hobbsee06:13
Hobbseehey robotgeek06:13
aj_calrissianFilesystem    Type    Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on06:13
seth_khi robotgeek06:13
aj_calrissian/dev/hdc1     ext3     71G  2.6G   65G   4% /06:13
aj_calrissiantmpfs        tmpfs    507M     0  507M   0% /dev/shm06:13
aj_calrissian/dev       unknown     71G  2.6G   65G   4% /.dev06:14
aj_calrissiannone         tmpfs    5.0M  2.8M  2.3M  55% /dev06:14
nalioth_zZzaj_calrissian: please use a pastebin or #flood06:14
Tm_Thullo all06:14
aj_calrissian#flood Filesystem    Type    Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on06:14
aj_calrissian/dev/hdc1     ext3     71G  2.6G   65G   4% /06:14
seth_khey hey Tm_T06:14
aj_calrissiantmpfs        tmpfs    507M     0  507M   0% /dev/shm06:14
aj_calrissian/dev       unknown     71G  2.6G   65G   4% /.dev06:14
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aj_calrissiannone         tmpfs    5.0M  2.8M  2.3M  55% /dev06:14
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robotgeekaj_calrissian: use the pastebin06:14
seth_kaj_calrissian, in the future please use http://kubuntu.pastebin.com or #flood06:14
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nalioth_zZzaj_calrissian: #flood is a channel you join, to paste into06:15
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aj_calrissianic06:15
nalioth_zZzaj_calrissian: all channels on irc are prefaced with #06:15
aj_calrissiandidn't know06:15
seth_kno problem06:15
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aj_calrissianok I think it's there06:15
aj_calrissianbut not sure06:16
Hobbseelooks like you have plenty of space...06:16
aj_calrissiandid the flood work?06:16
zsarkerHOW TO INSTALL FIREFOX IN KUBUNTU?06:17
chaoticgeekCAPS DONT GET YOU ANSWERS!!!!06:17
crimsun0.o06:17
crimsunzsarker: sudo aptitude install firefox06:17
seth_khi zsarker, just open Adept and choose Firefox, if you've enabled the repos already06:18
seth_kchaoticgeek, um06:18
seth_kthat's not really necessary imo06:18
zsarkersorry, how to open Adept06:19
zsarkerI am new in Kubuntu, sorry06:19
seth_kzsarker, K Menu > System > Adept Package Manager06:19
chaoticgeekkmenu > system >adept06:19
seth_kno problem :)06:19
zsarkerthanks06:19
aj_calrissianHobbsee I recreated my error, it says "The document could not be saved, as it was not possible to write to file:///etc/apt/sources.list."06:20
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Hobbseehwo did you try to open /etc/apt/sources.list?06:20
aj_calrissianwas that too much to paste here? or did it need to be in flood?06:20
Hobbseeaj_calrissian: no, that's fine06:20
aj_calrissiank06:20
nalioth_zZzaj_calrissian: you need to open it with superuser priveledges. use "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"06:20
aj_calrissianI think it's using Konquoer06:20
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aj_calrissianin konsole again?06:21
nalioth_zZzaj_calrissian: yes in console06:21
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aj_calrissianbingo06:22
aj_calrissianthankgs Nalioth06:22
aj_calrissiannow that should give me the option to d/l stuff from there in Kynaptic correct?06:22
nalioth_zZzaj_calrissian: yes, after you update your apt-get06:23
aj_calrissiank06:23
aj_calrissianpardon the question again, but when I sent that info to #flood did you guys see it?06:25
aj_calrissiancause i don't see anything there06:25
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pwolfequick question as i'm having trouble installing the newest nvidia drivers.  if I'm using kernel 2.6.12-10-amd64-generic, what do I need to install from adept to have my kernel source installed?06:27
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pwolfekeeps failing saying that I dont have the correct version installed06:27
zsarkerThank you all very much for your help06:27
zsarkerwith FIrefox06:27
zsarkerIt's really very nice to know how to install06:28
seth_kthere's tons of software available for your use in Adept :)06:28
seth_kit's fun to just look through sometimes06:28
aj_calrissianwell all, thanks for your help. I appreciate it06:30
aj_calrissianbut now I have to go06:30
aj_calrissianI'll be back though, from time to time06:31
aj_calrissianuntil I get this stuff down06:31
aj_calrissianthen I suppose i'll be back to help! :P06:31
nalioth_zZzaj_calrissian: you dont have to wait to help06:31
aj_calrissianI know,06:31
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aj_calrissianbut I gotta know a little more than i do to be of any real help06:32
aj_calrissianwell, nnight all06:32
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digitsIs it a known fact that Krita and kopete is totally unstable on AMD64?06:37
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Tm_Tdigits: not that I know06:40
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PaloDeQuesoWould someone be able to look at my log.smbmount?07:44
PaloDeQuesohttp://rafb.net/paste/results/mA2OLT54.html07:44
BigKahunaI'm using a moodin KDM theme and was wondering if it would be possible to hack in a sound effect. Basically I want my KDE start-up sound to play as soon as my password has been accpeted as opposed to when KDE loads07:44
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revi have an "adinistrator mode" prob07:59
revi put in pw and it pauses and then back to restricked mode08:00
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Insomniac-rev: what happens when you try to use sudo in a console?08:01
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revit works fine08:01
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sampanrev, that's a known bug in fresh breezy kubuntu installs08:02
revwhat i do about it?08:02
sampanupdate your system (via adept-updater or apt-get) and it should be fixed08:02
revhmm08:02
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sampanit happened to a bunch of us first week of release, but it was fixed in updates a week or two after breezy was released.08:03
revi just sudo apt-get update ad still same thing08:04
sampanthat just updates the repo lists -- use sudo adept-updater08:04
revooh. lots of things happening now08:05
sampan:D08:05
revthanks08:05
sampansure -- i remember how frustrated that bug had me ;)08:05
sampancouldn't even change my clock!  i was pulling my hair out08:06
bob_4_a_dayrev what was the cure ?08:06
revit's still dowlloading08:06
revwow. big update08:10
revwow. even kernal update08:10
revit worked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1108:11
revweeeee08:11
revthanks sampan08:12
sampansure :)  just passing the joy along08:12
revi now have controll08:12
revbwahahahaha08:13
revsamba here i come08:13
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Insomniac-odd... amarok seems to have crashed while i was afk but no error is displayed08:52
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thegladiatorhi kubuntu :)08:55
thegladiatori am running fc4 , is there any way i can get kubntu theme for my kde ?08:55
Tm_Tkubuntu theme?08:55
thegladiatoryes08:55
Tm_Twhat exactly you mean?08:55
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thegladiatorso that it looks like kubntu08:55
thegladiatori am running fc408:55
Tm_Terr, so all you need is background?08:56
thegladiatorbut i need to get the look of kubuntu nope08:56
thegladiatorthe full theme08:56
Tm_Tthere's no special theme for Kubuntu08:56
thegladiatorlike say the windows everything i see08:56
thegladiatorit uses kde plastik ?08:56
Tm_Tthat's basic KDE08:56
Tm_Tyes08:56
thegladiatoris there a theme hat is absed on ubntu / kubuntu -> that brown looks ?08:56
thegladiatori like that brown looks08:57
Tm_Thmm, my Kubuntu has never been brown08:57
thegladiatori see08:57
thegladiatorubntu is brown08:57
Tm_Tubuntu is brown (like gnome) and Kubuntu is blue (like KDE)08:57
Tm_Tatleast this is how I see it08:57
thegladiatorah08:58
thegladiatori see08:58
revsame here08:59
thegladiatorthat brown theme for gnome is superb ; if only we had any equivalent for kde :)08:59
Tm_Tthe I think we do08:59
thegladiatorthere is a brown theme u mean ?08:59
thegladiatorcan u help me find out ?08:59
thegladiatori have my gnome on ubntu brown and thats perfect09:00
Tm_Toh, you can just set your KDE to use brown colour for a start09:00
thegladiatorwait i will show u  s snapshort09:00
Tm_TI know how Gnome looks like ;)09:00
revme too. and i don't like it09:00
revor gnome09:00
thegladiatornah :) this is my fc4 configured like ubntu :)09:01
thegladiatorjust see09:01
revok09:01
thegladiatorhttp://img204.imageshack.us/img204/4382/screenshot9ge.png09:01
Tm_Thttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=2571109:01
Tm_Tthat's greenish one, but artnay thought he will do brown version from that09:01
revseems kinda close09:01
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chaoticgeekwoot09:02
revnice settings btw09:02
thegladiatoryeah i was wondering if i can get that looks for my kde09:02
thegladiatorthat brownish color09:02
thegladiatoramazing09:02
chaoticgeekI kinda did a script for (k)ubuntu to install restricted formats09:02
Tm_Thttp://www.kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/foo/foo_093.png09:02
Tm_Tchaoticgeek: ah?09:02
chaoticgeekonly works on 5.10 x86 though09:02
Tm_Tthat's how my desktop looks now, but I have to find better background09:03
chaoticgeekbut I'm happy I was able to do that by my self09:03
Tm_Tchaoticgeek: heh, I have several scripts that does work only in my pc ;)09:03
revnie desktops guys'09:04
thegladiatornice one09:04
chaoticgeekthis i my first script, and its just all the commands to get the restricted formats, mplayer, dvd playback, java, and flash working09:04
thegladiatorbut i am looking for brwon :)09:04
chaoticgeekso I just copyed and pasted lines of commands09:04
thegladiatorjust fell inlove with ubuntu09:04
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cemoihello09:05
chaoticgeekI try and tweak stuff too much so I can screw stuff up really quickly and have to reinstall so I want something like this09:05
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thegladiatorso kubuntu also have free cd's ?09:06
pwolfeanyone here good with nvidia drivers on amd64?  im new to 64 and having some..issues09:06
cemoimmm i'm french and i don't speak english...... :(09:06
thegladiatoror is it an offshoot of ub ?09:06
chaoticgeeknext release there will be shipit09:06
chaoticgeekfrench!09:06
thegladiatorwoah09:06
chaoticgeekI speak a lil french09:06
chaoticgeekbut not much09:06
cemoi oui09:06
chaoticgeekoui09:07
thegladiatorcemoi, oh :( u need english language most of the places09:07
cemoit speak spanish tan bien09:07
Tm_Tcemoi: if you just can, use english09:07
thegladiatorenglish is currently the universal lang :)09:07
revrofl09:07
cemoiyes but i don(t use it evry day........09:08
revyou should09:08
chaoticgeekcemoi: join #ubuntu-fr its the french channel of ubuntu I belive09:08
revget better at it09:08
Tm_Tcemoi:  #kubuntu-fr if you like to use only french09:08
Tm_Tchaoticgeek: K! ;)09:08
cemoimmm ok09:08
Tm_Tcemoi: but, welcome here too09:08
chaoticgeekthe ubuntu one has a bit more people too09:08
thegladiatorwhat is kde version of kubz ?09:08
cemoithank's a lot :D09:09
Tm_Tthegladiator: 3.4.3 and 3.5.009:09
Tm_Tcemoi: np :)09:09
thegladiatori see09:09
thegladiatornonw has 4.0 ?09:09
thegladiatori mean no distros ?09:09
cemoiby by and phank you very much ;)09:09
thegladiatori havent seen any distros with 4.x09:09
revthers nobody there09:09
seth_kcemoi, je suis en train d'ecrire un redaction pour ma classe de francais... vous pouvez l'ecrire pour moi :D09:09
Tm_Tthegladiator: well, 4.0 will be released in some future09:09
Tm_Tthegladiator: it's hard to distribute something what doesn't exist yet09:10
thegladiatori see09:10
thegladiatorkde looks already has09:10
thegladiatorthemes for 4.x it seems09:10
thegladiatorthat is why i asked09:10
Tm_Taah09:10
thegladiatorlol :)09:10
Tm_Tkde4 is under development09:10
Tm_Theavy one09:10
thegladiatorah09:11
Tm_Tunusable to users09:11
cemoiune redaction de quelle type09:11
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Tm_Tthegladiator: ask again in next december09:11
Tm_T;)09:11
chaoticgeekwonder when konqueror is going to support .svg files09:11
seth_kde _La Porte Etroite_, par Gide :)09:12
thegladiatorheh:)09:12
Tm_Tchaoticgeek: does already I think09:12
Tm_Tactually, I'm not sure09:12
Tm_Tchaoticgeek: can you give an url to svg pic?09:13
cemoije peux toujours te donner un coup de main icic if you want09:13
Tm_Tor page that contains it09:13
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seth_kcemoi, hehe, it's ok :) je vous plaisante09:14
cemoi:)09:14
cemoi^_^09:14
seth_kok, bedtime, have a good night everybody09:15
Tm_Tgood night seth_k|away09:15
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koshkonqueror has supported svg for over a year09:25
koshalthough animation stuff it still crashes on09:26
Tm_Tkosh: I thought so09:26
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koshTm_T: not all the time but most of the time09:27
koshTm_T: at least on the w3c test suite it still crashes09:27
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digitscan i do a "downgrade" from amd64 to x86 without having to to a complete reinstall?09:28
koshprobably depends on how good you are at it, I managed to switch from sid to kubuntu yesterday without doing a reinstall09:29
digitsok09:29
koshI won't recommend it though09:30
koshif I was doing it I would just backup my data and try it though just for the fun of doing it :)09:31
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digitskosh: my idea, just wanted to check if it was possible first ;P09:40
koshdigits: best way to find out if it is possible is to try it09:41
digitskosh: never used a debian based system before though... (*bsd, slackware and gentoo)09:41
koshdigits: someone told me that I could not switch from debian sid to kunbutu also but that was not right09:41
digitskosh: hehe09:42
koshI had to resolve a lot of things manually but it did work fine09:42
digitsok09:42
koshand I did not force even one package during the whole process09:42
digitsgoing to be interresting09:43
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Azertyuuuhey all, i read somewheer that initNG  shortens  the reboottime09:47
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Azertyuuuhey all, i read somewheer that initNG  shortens  the reboottime, is that true ? and where can ifind that09:51
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thesameti am working on a (python) script inside vim. is there an easy way to execute the script (in a new window), in a way that will:10:11
thesameta. kill the previous instance of the script, if it is already running10:11
thesametb. will allow me to continue editing my script10:12
thesamet?10:12
ClayGhow do i disbale graphical login?10:12
thesametsorry... sent to wrong channel... :)10:12
thesametclayg: go to Menu-->System Settings -->System Services, and disable gdm and kdm in boot time.10:15
ClayGhow is it done in console?10:15
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ClayGI'm ssh'ing into it but I can pull xapps10:16
ClayGI can use gksudo services-admin10:16
ClayGit looks like but I also would like to know a strictly cli way of doing it10:17
thesametclayg: I once deleted the symbolic links from /etc/rc?.d   but I am not sure this was the Right way.10:17
Insomniac-that's probably exactly what the gui tools do10:18
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_antoniociao c' qualcuno che puo' aiutarmi con kpppd?11:02
hussamI've been using spammassassin in kmail for a couple of mounths now, but it hardly detects 1 out of 50 spam emails. is there any better solution?11:02
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brosiooza repository with java 1.5 for ubuntu ?12:49
freelovebrosiooz: the antesis one has it i guess............12:51
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manveru!java12:54
manveruhmm, where is ubotu?12:54
libbngood Q12:54
libbnhmm, where should i put my own theme file? in firefox folder? should i create a theme folder and it will popup in themes menu?12:55
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curuxzgoodmorning12:59
freelovegoodmorning12:59
freelovehere its evening:)12:59
curuxzhow are you freelove?12:59
freelovecuruxz: im fine thx12:59
curuxzhere its just gone lunuch :)12:59
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freelovewhere ya from?01:00
curuxzUK01:00
curuxzyou?01:00
freeloveindia:D01:02
curuxzyou like kubuntu?01:03
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freelovecuruxz: of course and not at all!:)01:03
freelovecuruxz: means i'd love to use it.but just now i did clean install.and i cant get to kdm..it stops at console mode.....01:04
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curuxz:S oh dear01:05
freelovei dont know why.but atleat for me.kubu breezy is far too problematic..hoary was better i guess...01:05
curuxzyou on a text based IRC client then?01:05
curuxzI always install ubuntu, then add kde later, never get any problems that way around01:05
freelovebut again thats just my luck....a lot of kubuntu users never had probs lke mine...01:05
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freelovecuruxz: u are absolutely correct.i did the same.....and things were fine.but the moment i did clean install.things went wild..01:06
curuxzyea its machine specific alot of the time01:06
freelovei guess they put mote attn to ubuntu than kubuntu:(   but i hope this changes with dapper:).really looking forward to it......01:07
freelovecuruxz: have u upgraded to kde 3.5?01:07
curuxzerm not sure01:08
curuxzone sec and i will find out01:08
curuxz3.4.3 :(01:08
curuxzits 3.5 in the repos yet?01:08
freelovecuruxz: ya....http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php01:10
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curuxzthanks :D01:10
curuxzis it any better?01:11
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freelovecuruxz: but i came across a weird things in 3.5, i dont see any storage media like my other partitions........01:11
freelovecuruxz: but its faster, with new features, AND kopete now lets u see webcams! yohooooooooooooooooo!!01:11
curuxzcoolio01:12
freelovebut make sure u install a few jasper libraries.or u wont be able to see webcams:)01:13
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hussamfreelove: how stable is kde 3.5?01:14
bdmpI was using firefox and I wrote a long letter and when I hit send the website said "we are down for mantenience" and I lost my letter. Any one know any tricks to get my letter back?01:14
manveruhussam: pretty stable for me01:15
manverubdmp: there is no way01:15
curuxzbdmp sorry no, the best way is when doing long inputs on sites is to save a copy before sending incase of that01:15
manverubdmp: but don't worry... i guess we all made this mistake once... (or twice, or thrice...)01:16
freelovehussam: so far its been running smoothly:D..definitely worth trying.01:16
curuxzdoing the upgrade now :D01:16
freelovei had thought all of u wud have upgraded to 3.5 by now!01:16
curuxznot sure i can do it with out a reboot though01:17
curuxznah i work from my pc so i need it stable :)01:17
freeloveya a reboot is recommended:)...........but it quite stable imo01:17
manverucuruxz: i have less crashes with 3.5 than i had with 3.401:17
freelovevery true:D01:17
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manverucuruxz: and you don't have to reboot01:17
aitorhi01:17
manverucuruxz: the only time you have to do that is installing of a new kernel01:18
aitorcan any of you help me with my /etc/network/interfaces configuration for a wireless network with wep?01:18
freelovemanveru: i had to face some weirdness.which went away on reboot...01:18
freelovehey i love edubuntu too:)......nice icons & wallpaper.........01:19
curuxzah rite good good then01:19
aitoris this ok? should the wless card work at system startup?01:19
aitorauto wlan001:20
aitoriface wlan0 inet dhcp01:20
aitorwireless-essid Comtrend01:20
aitorwireless-key1 AAAAAAAAAA01:20
aitorwireless-key2 BBBBBBBBBB01:20
aitorwireless-defaultkey 101:20
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=== manveru could then just do !pastebin
aitorfirst key is sure to work but only works if I do a iwconfig01:20
freelove!sources01:20
manveruaitor: please use http://rafb.net/paste next time01:20
aitorsorry manveru, did not know it01:20
aitorsorry01:20
freeloveits ok aitor:D01:21
manveruno problem - it's only an advice almost everyone here gets :)01:21
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freelovei got it the hard way once;)01:21
aitor;)01:21
aitorso, I'll paste it there then01:22
manveruwe've got it in here already01:22
freeloveyes.and then give us the link.01:22
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manverunalioth: hey :)01:22
naliothhowdy01:22
freelovehi nalioth01:22
naliothhi y'all. i'm at the office now01:23
aitorhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/iFCvpb78.html01:23
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aitorthis config does not work well at system startup, but if a do iwconfig wlan0 essid Comtrend key {the_first_key_here01:23
aitor}01:23
aitorit works01:24
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manveruaitor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto?highlight=%28wifi%2901:24
aitorit's puzzling me as this is the first time a ever use a wireless network01:24
aitorok, manveru, I'll take a look01:24
aitorthanks01:24
manverutell me if that helps yu01:24
manveru+o01:24
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freelovehey check out this cute ubuntu wallpaper http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/files/4/6/2/5/7/ubuntu_winter_tux_hat_original.png01:25
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manverufreelove: ty, now i've got a new wallpaper ^^01:28
ninHerhi all01:28
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freelovemanveru: my pleasure:)01:28
glianhi01:29
curuxzhi glian01:29
manverufreelove: we really need a wallpaper-page for linux... something easier to browse than kde-look.org01:29
gliani just switched from u to k, i must say that i have a good choice made01:30
curuxzkde is much nicer i think01:30
curuxzesp with dual screen setups, like i have01:30
glianright01:30
freeloveglian: long live kubuntu!01:30
glianmore stable01:30
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freelovemanveru: that was from gnome-look.org01:30
Rogue_Jedi_XI don't suppose anyone here has experience with compiling quake2forge?01:30
freeloveRogue_Jedi_X: but ive installed & run quake2:D01:31
curuxzbrb01:31
Rogue_Jedi_Xfreelove: Yeah, me too. But I really want to get q2forge working. Better sound support and all01:31
freelovei see...01:32
manveruRogue_Jedi_X: and where's the problem?01:32
Rogue_Jedi_XI get crackling sounds with icculus' installer01:32
Rogue_Jedi_Xmanveru: Gimme a sec01:32
manveruin case you want to paste - use http://rafb.net/paste01:33
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freelove;D01:33
freeloveor www.pastebin.com :)01:33
aitormanveru, it won't work :S01:33
Rogue_Jedi_Xmanveru: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/45828301:33
manveruthx :)01:33
Rogue_Jedi_XNo worries. I've read the topic ;)01:34
manveruok...01:34
manverui had this error myself once01:34
Rogue_Jedi_XHope the story has a happy ending01:34
manverui checked back to the gentoo-people then - because they know everything about compiling :)01:35
freelovelike beauty & the beast;)01:35
Rogue_Jedi_XYeah, they should :P01:35
Rogue_Jedi_XSo what did they say?01:35
manveruit was some option i had to change in the configure-script01:35
manverubut i have no idea what it was...01:36
manverusomething that warnings are not handled as errors01:36
Rogue_Jedi_XJoy01:36
Rogue_Jedi_XI hoped I was just missing a package01:36
manveruplease go to #gentoo and hole them with your questions :)01:36
Rogue_Jedi_XThat cc1 line is the problem, then01:36
manveruexactly01:36
Rogue_Jedi_Xmanveru: Will do, thanks01:36
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curuxzok a reboot was needed because it was doing odd things like not showing windows etc01:39
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curuxzbut i have to say i like :D, looks good and is far more responsive01:39
Rogue_Jedi_XLooks like I won't have to bother anyone. There's a neat little configure parameter that I have to add. make clean first, though.01:39
curuxzOMG KDE 3.5 F$%$%$ RULES!!!01:40
curuxzit knows i have 2 screens and i can now do settings for each from within xwindows01:40
curuxzin almost 7 years of linux use i have never seen anything close to that01:40
manveruRogue_Jedi_X: good to hear :)01:40
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manverucuruxz: you've been on kde1 too? ^^01:41
curuxzdont know01:41
curuxzmay have01:41
manveruit's been some time01:41
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curuxzat last kde is adding usefull features01:42
curuxzi love the new version thanks for suggestiong upgrade :D01:42
manveruhehe :)01:42
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manveru3.5 rocks... but still i'm waiting for 4.0 ^^;;01:42
curuxzlol im still waiting for 5.001:43
curuxz:P01:43
manveruhowever, i need to do something productive now01:43
ChousukeI'm waiting for 4.0 too ;P01:43
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manverucu later lads01:43
curuxzc ya :)01:43
ChousukeNever really used KDE. ;P01:43
curuxzlol01:44
ChousukeBut I've promised no-one in particular that I'll give 4.0 a shot.01:44
curuxzkde 3.5 is realy giving windows a run for its money they have made it so much more user friendly i have only been on it for about 5 mins and i can already see a load of cool new stuff01:44
Rogue_Jedi_XDid anyone check out the Oxygen icons for KDE4? They look sweet01:44
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Chousukecuruxz: Windows was way behind earlier versions too ;P01:45
ChousukeWell, I guess I can only say that of gnome.01:45
curuxzoh on most i would agree, but a few features kde was still a bit pro'ish i think they have gone back and made it easyer on the basic stuff01:45
ChousukeHaven't they promised to make KDE4 more lightweight?01:46
Rogue_Jedi_XThey did?01:46
curuxzduno how they can01:46
curuxzits suposed to be more flashy than most01:47
ChousukeIt's not impossible.01:47
Chousukeas long as you can turn off the candy01:47
curuxzmaybe the default will be01:47
curuxzbut once you turn on all the cool stuff it will be big again, its just a modern gui they have to be01:47
Rogue_Jedi_XI dunno. When people want lightweight window managers they usually opt for Xfce and such01:47
curuxzaye01:48
ChousukeKDE isn't a window manager01:48
manverue17!01:48
Chousukekwin is01:48
curuxzkde and gnome are always going to be the big nice looking ones01:48
Rogue_Jedi_XSorry01:48
Chousukeit's not all about the window managers :)01:48
Rogue_Jedi_XGet those mixed up sometimes01:48
Chousukecuruxz:you don't have to look bad to be lightweight.01:48
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Rogue_Jedi_XWindow Managers and Desktop Environments that is01:48
Chousukeof course candy adds some weight.01:49
Chousukebut as long as you can turn it off it doesn't matter.01:49
curuxzlol chou maybe not, but in general there is a trend to be small and look bad01:49
Chousukefltk?01:49
curuxzor in windows case to be massive but look terible, the exeption that proves the rule :P01:49
Chousuke:D01:49
ascayi've got a little problem after upgrading kubuntu to kde 3.5. if i activate "align on grid" for desktop icons i can't put icons on the second screen (xinerama) anymore. has anyone an idea how to solve this?01:49
Chousukew2k actually looks nice.01:50
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Chousukenot flashy, but usable01:50
curuxz2 secs ascay i will see if that happens on mine :)01:50
curuxznope worked fine im afraid01:50
Rogue_Jedi_Xmanveru: Is E17 stable yet?01:51
curuxzif you auto align them to the left or something then they will all jump over untill the first screen is full01:51
manveruRogue_Jedi_X: i run it since days... it's pretty much stable01:51
Rogue_Jedi_Xmanveru: Cool. It looks fancy01:52
manveruRogue_Jedi_X: but only when you install it correctly... it's still a pain in combination with ubuntu01:52
ascaycuruxz: no alignment active, i can place them on my main monitor wherever i want01:52
Rogue_Jedi_Xmanveru: How come?01:52
manveruRogue_Jedi_X: be sure to try elive some day01:52
manveruRogue_Jedi_X: oh, different compiler-versions - i would have to compile it myself, but no time for doing that01:52
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Rogue_Jedi_XOuch.01:53
manveruRogue_Jedi_X: so my laptop is running on e17 and my working-desktop is kde3.501:53
curuxzthats odd ascay, try restarting :S maybe a buffer has seized if you aint already...01:54
Rogue_Jedi_Xmanveru: Spiffy. Do you have Entrance installed too?01:54
manveruRogue_Jedi_X: of course :)01:54
ascaycuruxz: if i deactivate the grid alignment, my problem is gone btw01:54
Rogue_Jedi_Xmanveru: So what does that look like? I think that's the only part of E that I haven't seen a screenshot of.01:54
manveruRogue_Jedi_X: wait a second, i'll make one01:54
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curuxzthats so strange, i upgraded to 3.5 about 15 minutes ago and my dual screens are running better than ever!01:55
manveruRogue_Jedi_X: just gimme a minute - need some coffee first01:55
curuxzsorry i cant be of more help but without the problem my self i cant look for a fix01:55
Rogue_Jedi_Xmanveru: Sure, sure. No rush :901:55
ascayyep, there are very nice new xinerama features. it's the best multimonitoring experience ever. i really miss it if i'm working with other os01:56
curuxzother os?01:56
curuxzTRAITOR!!01:56
curuxz;) J/k01:56
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ascaywinxp and macosx, sorry :)01:57
curuxzhahaha, im just messin :D01:57
Rogue_Jedi_XHey, sweet. Quake2forge finished compiling01:57
curuxzwe all use what we need to get the job done01:57
curuxzi run a business and there is no money in a tiny company like mine to pay for windows or mac os, so i use linux because it keeps my systems legal and free. Oh and i prefer linux a million times more than any other system because of all the advantages in speed and security01:58
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ascayme too, linux at home and windows/osx at work. all with two monitors. linux+kde+xinerama is just great, windows is ok if the graphics card has good drivers and osx is terrible with multimonitoring.02:01
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curuxznever used osx, only the ones before it but apparently its totaly diffrent now02:02
Rogue_Jedi_XI hope I get to at least try it out once, see what all the fuss is about02:03
curuxzpersonaly im more at home with linux than anyother system because i know my way around it so well02:05
curuxzits like a cluttered house, only i know where to find the good things ;)02:05
ascayyeah, osx is not bad, os9 was terrible (bad multitasking, bad memory management, very unstable). but for me osx is to less configurable. that's why i love kde so much.02:05
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ascayhm... my icon/grid problem seems to be a bug... found it several times on mailing lists, bugtrackers etc02:08
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curuxzthat would explain things02:10
curuxztryed pressing ctl-alt-backspace02:10
_raptorkann mir mal eben jemand helfen02:10
curuxzshould reboot X only and clean it out i think02:10
_raptori need german help for kubuntu linux02:11
Rogue_Jedi_X_raptor: Try #kubuntu-de02:11
curuxzsorry no can do02:11
_raptorthx02:12
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curuxzits a bit slow in here today eh02:13
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Kamping_Kaiseri should be helping out more02:14
Kamping_Kaiserwhile since i have in any serious way02:14
curuxzhelping with what?02:14
Kamping_Kaiserin the channel02:14
Kamping_Kaiserhi mrmarcel02:14
mrmarcelhi Kamping_Kaiser02:14
Kamping_Kaiser:)02:15
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curuxz:)02:15
manveruRogue_Jedi_X: ok, made a bunch of screenshots... uploading them now02:15
mrmarcel:)02:15
curuxzkontact wont start now i have 3.502:15
curuxz:(02:15
Kamping_Kaiser:(02:16
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Rogue_Jedi_Xmanveru: Awesome, thanks02:16
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os2macdid anyone see my last question?02:18
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curuxzno02:19
ascaycuruxz: i had the kontact problem too. uninstalled it, installed it, problem gone. apt-get upgrade alone didn't help before.02:19
Kamping_Kaiseri cant see it02:19
curuxzah great thanks i will try that :)02:19
curuxzjust kontact or its related apps as well?02:19
os2maclet's say i want to beta dapper.... do I replace breezy with dapper in sources.list or add it......02:20
Kamping_Kaiseros2mac: replace it02:20
curuxzi think there is an iso somewhere for it os2mac02:20
Kamping_Kaiserthere is 'flight one', but imo just dist-upgrade off the net02:20
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Kamping_Kaisersave updating as soon as you finish the iso02:21
curuxzhow do we upgrade to dap?02:21
os2maccuruxz I am already running Kubuntu....02:21
Kamping_Kaisercuruxz: replace hoary/Breezy with dapper in your soruces list02:21
Kamping_Kaiserthen `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade`02:22
crimsunyou might wish to know that Dapper can still be highly problematic due to kernel and udev flux, but it's much better than it was last week.02:22
crimsunabsolutely do NOT dist-upgrade to Dapper on mission-critical machines.02:22
ascaycuruxz: i selected only kontact. adept deinstalled some more (kpilot e.g.) automatically.02:22
curuxzkk i will try :)02:22
Kamping_Kaiseri should second what crimsun says btw, don't use dapper unless you can afford to break :)02:23
curuxzi cant aford a break :(02:24
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Kamping_Kaiserdon't play with fire :)02:24
curuxzbut when i say i will try im not talking about dap im talking about a resinstall of kontact because i need that02:24
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Kamping_Kaisercuruxz: oh, ok02:25
DesExMachinahi leute02:25
DesExMachinakann mir jemand sagen wie ich im kubuntu02:25
Kamping_Kaiserhi02:25
curuxzi cant wait for dap stable to come out though02:25
curuxzwould love to see what all the buzz is about02:25
Kamping_Kaiser!de02:25
DesExMachinaden flashplayer fr den konquerer installieren kann02:25
Kamping_Kaiserhm. DesExMachina try Kubuntu-de02:25
DesExMachinaoh ok02:25
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Rogue_Jedi_Xmanveru: Entrance looks very slick. Just one question, though. How does it handle multiple users?02:26
Kamping_Kaisercuruxz: there are 3.5 repo's but, i don't know about using it (see topic)02:26
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os2macok so how do I tell it worked?02:30
DesExMachinacan someone please help me how I can install the flash plugin for the konquerer browser02:30
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DesExMachinahello?02:32
BlueDevilDesExMachina: install it for firefox, then go to configure konqueror and click "search for plugins"02:32
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_sebastianHi02:33
Kamping_Kaiserhi :)02:34
DesExMachinaok thanks02:34
_sebastiangot rid of previous version of Ubuntu.  and put on latest the other day. and a laod of software.  includling Konversation.  which I used to connect to this.  So I assume this some IRC chat program?02:34
BlueDevilyw02:34
BlueDevil_sebastian: yes02:34
_sebastianKonversation is a KDE app?02:34
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BlueDevil_sebastian: yes02:34
_sebastianI had Kbuntu on previous Ubuntu.  ,but not put on latest yet.  only some KDE apps and a load of other good software02:35
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DesExMachinaok thanks it works02:35
DesExMachinacu guys02:35
_sebastianso this is the kbuntu channel?  so supposue to talk about Kbuntu here I assume02:35
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Kamping_Kaiser_sebastian: yes02:36
_sebastianwell Gnome sucks and KDE sucks.02:36
_sebastianand therei s some sort of.  Amazing GUI or someting that I not installed yet02:36
_sebastiancarn't remember what it is called now02:37
_jonezwhat is karamba and how do i start it?02:37
_sebastianI have also used Fluxbox before :)02:37
Kamping_Kaiser_jonez: alt+f2 i think?02:37
_sebastianWIth Gnome and KDE I have been unable to customize them to how I want it :(02:37
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_sebastianat least with XP and 3rd party visaul style and stuff. people can actasully get XP to be nearlly exactly how they want it02:38
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_sebastianor exactly02:38
_jonezbut it costs cash02:39
_sebastianand I done that with XP.  got myself a really nice visual style.  free one02:39
_sebastianand used that uxtheme.dll patcher02:39
_sebastianso that it would run the visual style02:39
_sebastianand by same guy a really nice theme that goes with it.  for Firefox :)02:39
_sebastian,but that's not been upgraded yet for 1.5.  so still using the Deer Park Alpha 2 when I want to use FIrefox on XP :)02:40
_jonezso if u like winxp so good what the hell are u doing in this channel?02:40
_sebastianI don't like WIn XP so good it sucks02:40
manverui would miss my shell :)02:40
_sebastian,but what I am saying is.   I basically been able to get the GUI that I am happy with02:40
Kamping_Kaiserlol manveru, could read that in 2 ways ;)02:40
Rogue_Jedi_XI always thought Win XP was just a (even more) bloated version of Win2k02:41
_sebastianyeah exaclty it is02:41
Kamping_Kaiser_sebastian: apt-cache search window |grep manager02:41
Kamping_KaiserRogue_Jedi_X: with SP1 built in02:41
_sebastianwhat's that kamping02:41
Kamping_Kaiserxp's only good feature :) 2k sp102:41
manveru_sebastian: that's the source of days full of fun :)02:41
_jonezmaybe u should ask someone if it is something u dont get to work in linux mate?02:41
Rogue_Jedi_XKamping_Kaiser: Hehe, too true02:41
Kamping_Kaiser_sebastian: a way to find alternatives02:41
_sebastiana bit of a LInux noob so.  in the shell I assume?  put that in?02:42
manveruexactly02:42
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_jonezwhat good desklet programs is out there for KDE except superkaramba?02:45
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_jonezi wnat it to look more like gDesklets02:47
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CuruXzbk02:47
Rogue_Jedi_XGotta go. See ya02:50
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_sebastianit's uhmmm #ubuntu for the Ubutu channel sian't it?02:53
Kamping_Kaiseryep02:54
_jonezi cant get the dvd playback enabled in kubuntu any suggestions?02:54
Kamping_Kaiser_jonez: got libdvdcss?02:55
_sebastianwhat's the details I have to put in and that in Konversation.  so I can connnect to the Ubuntu channel?02:56
Kamping_Kaiser /join #ubuntu02:56
_sebastianI think it's found it now02:56
_sebastianwell I was configuring the thing so it could just connect or whatever02:56
_jonezsudo apt-get install libdvdcss??02:56
_jonezKamping is that what i should type in the shell?02:58
Kamping_Kaiser_jonez: you will have to check the wiki, i don't remember right now.02:58
Kamping_Kaiserbut it's not that hard, just follow the insturctions :)02:58
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_jonezyes i did that but it did not find the thing it was looking for02:59
jpatrick!dvd02:59
_jonezthat is why im asking here02:59
_jonezcause i need dvd playback02:59
_curuxz_xine?02:59
_jonezand also apt-get install azureus does not work03:00
slicslaki have some mpeg flics that i want to convert to xvid.  what app should i use?03:00
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LeeJunFanis it just me or does k3b make bad iso's for everyone? I ended up having to use dd to make good iso's.03:04
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slicslakok, how about this question, also have a dvd i need to convert to xvid.  and  i'm not even pirating, it's a promotional for a non-profit.  what's the best dvd ripping software right now?  by best i mean easiest to  use03:10
jpatrickk3b?03:11
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Kamping_Kaiserripping? try dvdrip03:13
Kamping_Kaiserand what your ripping is none of our buisness :)03:13
slicslakya ripping03:13
slicslaklol!03:13
Kamping_Kaiserlol03:13
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freeman2411?03:14
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_jonezwhat is a good server on amule?03:16
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_sebastiancan you get bootedo ut of here for flooding?  I wonder03:24
Kamping_Kaiseryes you can.03:24
_sebastianrather dead this channel now anyway thanks for the help I got here03:25
_sebastiangot more in Ubuntu channel and I am leaving now03:25
_sebastianbye03:25
Kamping_Kaiserlater03:25
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anttiThe APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or something similar. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.03:25
anttiwhy it says that when i try to run adept03:26
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cigahi03:42
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cigaI want to run a plus4 disk image with xmess. I misses some bin files (disk.bin, rs232.bin ...) Is it broken in breezy?03:43
Kamping_Kaisernot sure what it is03:43
cigain vice it works fine.03:43
cigacommodore +4 emulator03:44
Kamping_Kaiserhm. don't know, sorry03:44
cigais there a page which show a package status?03:44
Kamping_Kaiser*shrug*03:44
cigaic03:45
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dissedim installing a new graphic card, the old one is pci, new one is agp, anyone who could tell me if i need to do anything?03:46
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virachonhey..............03:48
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coldhmm how do I start the kubuntu desktop install from a ubuntu installation?03:48
Kamping_Kaisercold: open a terminal and type " sudo apt-get install Kubuntu-desktop`03:49
coldroot@ColdDexBox:/home/cold/applications/snort-1.8.1-RELEASE#  sudo apt-get install Kubuntu-deskto03:50
coldReading package lists... Done03:50
coldBuilding dependency tree... Done03:50
coldE: Couldn't find package Kubuntu-deskto03:50
coldroot@ColdDexBox:/home/cold/applications/snort-1.8.1-RELEASE#03:50
Kamping_Kaiserdesktop03:50
cigaanyone uses the official kde 3.5 packages?03:50
Kamping_Kaisernot deskto03:50
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coldsame thing happened03:51
Kamping_Kaisercold: do you have the internet repositories enabled?03:52
coldhmm how do I do that?03:52
Kamping_Kaisersudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list, comment out the cdrom line, and uncomment the internet repositories03:53
coldyuck, don't like nano preffer vi :)03:57
coldk let me try again now03:57
Kamping_Kaiserlol. nano is a family editor ;)03:58
coldroot@ColdDexBox:/home/cold/applications/konstruct/meta/everything# sudo apt-get install Kubuntu-desktop04:00
coldReading package lists... Done04:00
coldBuilding dependency tree... Done04:00
coldE: Couldn't find package Kubuntu-desktop04:00
coldroot@ColdDexBox:/home/cold/applications/konstruct/meta/everything#04:00
coldi un commented the internet respositories04:01
Kamping_Kaisertry lowercase k04:01
coldahh thanks buddy04:01
coldit worked04:01
Kamping_Kaiserand ran `sudo apt-get update`?04:01
Kamping_Kaisercool04:01
Kamping_Kaiser:)04:01
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coldhmm i assume apt-get update, updates the package list?04:02
Kamping_Kaiseryep04:02
Kamping_Kaiserwb kkathman :)04:02
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coldahh thanks man04:02
Kamping_Kaisernp04:03
kkathmanhowdy Kamping_Kaiser :)04:03
Kamping_Kaiser:)04:03
Kamping_Kaiseryour up late04:03
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kkathmanKamping_Kaiser: nah early...its morning here now 9am04:04
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kkathmanKamping_Kaiser: you are the one thats up late I think ::)04:04
_roots04:04
Kamping_Kaiserthat's true as well :)04:04
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=== Kamping_Kaiser slaps root a lot
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Tm_Toh04:06
Tm_Tmaybe I hit too hard04:06
Kamping_Kaiserlol04:06
Kamping_Kaiserclassic04:06
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Kamping_Kaisermode (+b *!*root@* ) by ChanOP04:07
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Kamping_Kaisertold ;)04:07
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Tm_TKamping_Kaiser: aye, actually telling that should be done by irc servers04:08
Tm_TKamping_Kaiser: some local IRCnet servers doesn't even let you in as root04:08
Tm_Tthat's how it should be04:08
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Kamping_Kaiseri agree04:08
DocTomoeactually, that is an interesting IP address that lotekk-guy had04:09
Kamping_Kaiserit's austnet04:09
DocTomoeaustnet?04:09
Kamping_Kaiserso they screw the last octet04:09
Kamping_KaiserIIRC04:09
Kamping_Kaiseranother network04:09
DocTomoeI see04:09
DocTomoeanyone willing to slap me with the big stick of enlightement with an postfix problem?04:10
Tm_TDocTomoe: no, but I can always slap you just for fun ;-P04:10
Kamping_Kaiser*cough* hides *cough*04:10
Kamping_Kaiserlol04:11
DocTomoeWell, Im not *that* type of guy ;)04:11
Tm_TDocTomoe: does that help?04:11
coldquick questions guy, see i have a windows,slackware and ubuntu partition, I want to delete the slackware partition and split the free space between ubuntu and windows, can it be done with the partitioner on the installer?04:11
Tm_Tdan04:11
Tm_Tdamn04:11
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Tm_TDocTomoe: so you say now04:11
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DocTomoecold: Id try PartitionMagic ...04:11
Tm_TDocTomoe: noooooo04:12
slow-motionhallo04:12
coldthats not free :L:(04:12
cold:( *04:12
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Tm_Tcold: you can use installer, or qtparted in knoppix livecd04:12
Kamping_Kaisercold: from a live cd should be able to04:12
DocTomoecold: well, if you know a relatively *SECURE* way to solve that with free (as in beer) software, let me know ;)04:12
sjnovickHi all.  I have a Dell Latitude laptop connected to a cport (docking station).  Is there a way to use the cport sound card ?04:13
coldlol ok doctomoe04:13
Tm_TDocTomoe: qtparted, parted, gparted ...04:13
DocTomoeTm_T: onc upon a time, thos stuff killed my mp3 collection. took me 3 months to recover.04:14
Tm_Tthere's multiple FOSS linux programs for that04:14
DocTomoeman, that was a nasty time ... only those legally bought stuff ... nearly killed me.04:14
Tm_TDocTomoe: that can be done by partition magic too04:14
DocTomoeTm_T: right. but for some reason, it never happened. therefore, I somehow trust PartitionMagic a lot more than parted-like stuff.04:15
DocTomoethats a personal preference, however04:15
Tm_Taye04:15
Kamping_KaiserDocTomoe: and i have used PM, and it's tried to kill me, so i recomend the open one, if you have to get screwd, it may as well be free :)04:16
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DocTomoeLet me put it the other way round ... if PM crashes my system, I know whom to point my shotgun at ;)04:17
Kamping_Kaiserlol04:17
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Coolio10someone tell me that the kubuntu install isnt as slow as the live CD04:18
DocTomoeCoolio10: the kubuntu install is not as slow as the live CD04:18
jpatrickCoolio10: it isn't04:18
Coolio10good04:19
sjnovickDoes anyone know how to configure an extra sound card ?04:19
Coolio10i am planning to install kubuntu today and just want a few answers04:20
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Coolio10does the processor boot up a cd before grub loads?04:20
Coolio10because i have UBCD4WIN and am going to install grub into the MBR and dont want my MBR killed and UBCD4WIN has tools to fix the MBR so..............04:21
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anttii am so lame cuz i ask this but, in the TS2 readme says To install using the gui, just startup "setup.sh"     <----- what is that startup?04:24
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Coolio10i dont even have kubuntu yet but i think it means enter it into the command04:26
anttido i enter startup /setup.sh04:27
anttii need that one damn command04:28
anttiand i have no idea what it is04:28
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anttiits not install or make install04:28
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Coolio10does the processor boot up a cd before grub loads?04:32
Coolio10 because i have UBCD4WIN and am going to install grub into the MBR and dont want my MBR killed and UBCD4WIN has tools to fix the MBR so..............04:32
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hussamRiddell: Hi, is there kde 3.4.3 for the kpdf/xpdf security bug?04:42
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Tm_Thussam: good question04:42
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hussamTm_T: he did update the kde 3.5 packages, but since many are still on breezy's kde 3.4.3, I thought I would ask.04:43
hussamI'm sticking to kde 3.4.3 for now.04:44
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hussamTm_T: are you using kde 3.4.3 or 3.5?04:48
Tm_T3.5 in dapper04:48
hussamTm_T: how's dapper, is it stable?04:50
hussamprobably not that much, huh?04:50
Tm_Tvery usable to me04:52
manveruhussam: it would be officially out if it was stable :)04:52
Tm_Tmanveru: or ready04:52
Tm_Tmanveru: this is stable as breezy to me, but all changes hasn't done yet04:53
Tm_Tlong wayto go04:53
hussammanveru: probably the kde part is stable but the bugs would be ubuntu core bugs04:53
manverui still wouldn't try it04:53
manveruneed a working reliable system :)04:53
hussammanveru: same here04:54
kkathmanhi there hussam and manveru :)04:57
hussamkkathman: hey04:59
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jpatrickhussam: modprobe segment-fault-ed here05:02
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hussamjpatrick: really?05:06
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jpatrickhussam: it did05:06
hussamreinstall it05:06
manverukkathman: btw, hi :)05:07
jpatrickI tried `sudo modprobe i3868` (which was where my wifi card was) and it kept segment faulting :|05:07
hussamtry this, reinstall libc6. many ubuntu packages rely on it.05:07
jpatrickhussam: I'm waiting for Flight 205:08
hussamjpatrick: Oh sorry. you're on dapper. I thought you were on breezy.05:08
jpatrickI'm on Breezy now05:09
hussamso it seg-faulted on breezy? what if you modprobe some other module, will it seg fault as well?05:10
dissedcant start xvid files with kaffeine, dled the gstreamer xvid thing, but when i run any xvid file kaffeine shuts down05:10
jpatrickThat was on Dapper05:10
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cRoW2khi05:14
cRoW2kto enable SWAT what i've to do?05:14
cRoW2ki've installed netkit-inetd05:15
hussamkkathman: go buy some05:15
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kkathmanhussam: yah... that would be the right thing to do05:16
kkathmanbut Im lazy right now..hehe05:16
kkathmanso I got some tea instead :)05:16
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mister_robotokkathman: aren't you the one looking to run DbDesigner?05:24
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mister_robotokkathman: you there?05:26
coldhmm i edited my xinitrc file from gnome to kde and i still get gnome 4 my window manager05:26
coldcan someone help me?05:26
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gsnedderswould 256mb RAM be enough on a duron 700 to run smoothly, or would i need 512mb?05:32
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kkathmangsnedders: the more primitive the machine, the more memory you'll need05:33
kkathmantry it and see :)05:33
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jpatrickgsnedders: I'm on 128MB ram and Pentium II05:34
gsneddersjpatirck: then i may as well try05:35
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_dirklong live easykubuntu :D05:40
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our_didihi all. I followed apt-key instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php - that didn't work for me - I slightly changed a command and it did work - I'm not sure those instructions are uncorrect, but I would like to talk about it - anybody interested?05:43
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our_didiwell, maybe someone will read this later so I summarize it. As a user, I typed "wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg" , but when I did "sudo apt-key" I received this error: "gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found05:47
our_didi"05:47
our_didi so I used "sudo  wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg"  instead of  " wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg".05:47
our_didiand now it seems to be ok.05:48
our_didibye all05:48
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jpatrickour_didi: it's suppose to say that05:48
our_didijpatrick : maybe I should give a look to gpg, apt-key and so on05:49
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our_didiI only found strange that I received no errors doing it via "sudo apt-key"05:49
our_didiso I thought both "sudo" were necessary05:49
our_didiam I wrong about that?05:49
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_ubuntuI want to thank you for this largely USER friendly Operating System!05:56
poningruour_didi: you need sudo05:58
poningrufor software installation05:58
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our_didiponingru sure. however I was referring to "sudo wget". thanks however06:05
our_didiand I too agree with _ubuntu - "thank you for this largely USER friendly Operating System!"06:06
our_didi:)06:06
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hussamanybody here uses kmail?06:07
hugelmopfhussam: yes.06:07
hussamhugelmopf: I use spamassassin to catch spam in kmail but it only catches like 1 out of every 50 spam emails06:08
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hussamhugelmopf: what do you use for spam protection?06:10
hugelmopfhussam: i am not using it, you might be more successful if you asked the spamassassin guys. in some way you can change its threshhold, but i don't have any experience with it.06:10
hussamok06:10
our_didiam I safe in removing kubuntu-desktop package in order to upgrade to kde3.5 and amarok1.3.7 ?  dependencies managing wants me to do so - I'm using kynaptic on breezy06:10
hugelmopfhussam: i don't get that much spam, that i really worried about it yet. my mailinglist-email provider seems to have spam filtering installed, and none of the other addresses i publish on the net06:11
hugelmopfour_did: should be safe, as long as it doesn't remove anything else besides kubuntu-desktop (which is just a meta-package)06:11
our_didioh I understand, thanks06:12
our_didiyes, it doesn't remove many other packages - while it upgrades all I need. so, let's try06:12
hussamhugelmopf: I usually don't get spam on my personal pop mail but I have another email @ my university's email on which I get a lot of spam although I have never actually published this email on the net06:13
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hussamour_didi: after the upgrade is installed, check if you can install kubuntu-desktop again06:14
our_didiuhm...thanks hussam !06:15
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kkathmanHowdy Delvien :)06:26
DelvienIs there a way to install enlightenment and still run KDE, or is it just like KDE and gnome, where you can choose when you log in ?06:26
Delvienhey kkathman06:26
reagleBRKLNsince i upgraded to 3.5, klipper interferes with the copy/pasting formatting of what I'm doing over KRDC06:28
our_didiI'm not sure I get what you're asking Delvien (i'm not english), but if you would like to can choose between enlightenment and kde at log-in, i'm quite sure you can - i think you only would need to install enlight.06:28
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our_didiDelvien : maybe did you install enlight. and you are not able to log in it ?06:29
Delviendidnt install it yet06:30
Delvieni want to though06:30
Delvienour_didi know a good website to download it from?06:30
our_didino i'm sorry ... don't you use apt-get or an apt fronted?06:31
our_didii think you can install it with apt and I would suggest you to do so06:31
kkathmanDelvien: My knowledge is that enlightenment is a gnome-based graphical manager kinda like xfce06:31
kkathmanyou install it and then have the option to boot into it..but I dont think you can run KDE apps in it06:32
Delvienkkathman eek06:32
Chousukeof course you can!06:32
Delvienomg that scared me hehe06:32
Chousukenothing prevents you from running KDE apps in gnome or vice versa :P06:32
kkathmanChousuke: I know you can run gnome apps in KDE06:32
kkathmanbut I run 100% KDE so never tried the other way06:33
DelvienAnyone experienced with the install of Enlightenment?06:33
Chousukeyou can run any app anywhere providing you have the needed libs.06:33
our_didiChousuke is right06:33
Chousukehmm06:34
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ChousukeYou don't even need KDE to run KDE apps. just open X and run the app ;P06:34
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DelvienIs there a DEB install for Enlightenment06:44
Delvien!enlightenment06:44
hugelmopfdelvien: why don't you search in the package manager? there is an enlightenment package06:44
Delvienhugelmopf i did ,  did not see it06:45
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hugelmopfit is in the universe repository, do you have that enabled?06:45
Delvieni beleive i do , can you tell me the http that i have to have06:45
DelvienOH now i see it in adept06:46
Delvienthanks bro, must of spelled it wrong the 3 times i looked before lol...06:47
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_curuxz_enlightenment works great with all apps06:51
flodinehello guys is there a guide page for kubuntu?06:51
_curuxz_its a good system tho takes  a while to get looking nice and everything where you want it06:51
_curuxz_once don though, its a very cool looking system06:51
flodinetheres got to be a guide page i know ubuntu has one06:52
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_curuxz_personaly i think kde is better for multitasking though06:52
flodineplease help06:52
our_didiflodine : please wait a couple of minutes and someone will do06:53
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our_didi(maybe :)   - did you already look around the kubuntu website?06:53
_curuxz_whats the prob flood line?06:53
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our_didiflodine did you need some thing like http://kubuntu.org/docs/kquickguide/C/index.html ?06:55
our_didiplease note that I didn't know that page before, I just have a look to kubuntu main page and followed "Documentation" plink06:56
our_didiplink = *link06:56
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flodinethxs hope it tells me about repositories06:57
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Flammia!multimedia07:00
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Delvienwow enlightenment is hard to get around in07:01
_curuxz_yea takes a while to get used too07:02
_curuxz_its great once you have it loading everyting you want07:02
Delvienhow can i get to my apps? i couldnt find a single thing07:02
_curuxz_and all put in the right places07:02
_curuxz_click anywhere and you should be able to access a startmenu07:02
Delvieni wasnt07:02
_curuxz_probs best to stick to KDE :)07:03
_curuxz_its much more tolerant of people learning things them selfs07:03
Delvienwell im used to KDE i want something new07:04
arafat!multimedia07:04
_curuxz_gnome?07:04
Delvieni hate gnome for several reasons07:05
Delvienone being its file browser :P07:05
_curuxz_xfc?07:05
_curuxz_*xfce07:05
Delviennever tried it, but Enlightenment looked really good,07:05
_curuxz_oh yea the screenshots you see look amazing07:06
Delvienhow do i open a terminal in enlightenment07:06
_curuxz_but thats after you spend about 2 weeks playing with it getting it all setup07:06
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Delvienwell ive spent 4 weeks on KDE07:06
_curuxz_click anywhere nad access terminal from the dev menu07:06
Delvienhmm07:06
Delvienany hotkey?07:06
_curuxz_i have used linux for nearly 7 years and it takes me weeks to get enlightenment working how i like, even then i prefer KDE07:06
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_curuxz_not unless you set it to use a hotkey07:07
Delvienok brb then07:07
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Delvienwhen i click the left mouse button on the desktop it doesnt do anything07:10
voicuhi, the sound system doesn't work on other users but mine (the main user). it says (when i log on into another user) that /dev/dsp access is denied07:10
voicui gave rw access on all users but everytime i start linux the permissions are reset07:11
Delvien_curuxz_ i think my enlightenment is broken07:11
hugelmopfvoicu: your new user has to be member of the "audio" group07:11
_curuxz_i would ask in the forums for advice on enlightenment they may know of a user guilde07:11
_curuxz_i doubt a clean install would be broken :)07:11
manveruDelvien: you are on e17 now?07:11
voicuhugelmopf: thanks, i didn't think about that07:11
hugelmopfvoicu: you can add him with "sudo adduser USERNAME audio"07:11
Delvienmanveru ummm i dont know07:11
voicuok, thanks07:11
Delvienmanveru o im in KDE right now07:12
manveruDelvien: one important shortcut in e17 is ctrl+alt+t07:12
Delvienmanveru i cant get to anything in enlightentment07:12
manveruit opens a console :)07:12
Delvienmanveru it tells me to click the left mouse button to get to the "start" menu but when i click it nothing happens07:12
_curuxz_you should get a menu and one of the options will be something like applications07:13
Delvienaye, but i dont07:13
_curuxz_that will expand to show your apps (im in kde so i cant see first hand at the moment im afraid)07:13
manveruDelvien: but you can move your mouse?07:13
Delvienyes07:13
manverue17 or e16?07:13
_curuxz_should be like getting to the change desktop wallpaper menu, just instead you will have your apps there07:14
manveru_curuxz_: that doesn't help when it doesn't work...07:14
Delvienmanveru which ever is from adept07:14
manveruoh, that's e1607:14
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Delvien_curuxz_ aye i get everthing else with cnrtl left mouse button, and stuff, but when  i just hit the left mouse button it doesnt do anything07:15
manverue16 is different is some points... but still it should work that way07:15
Delvienhow do i upgrade to e17 from console?07:16
Delvienim gonna try and reinstall enlightenment see if that does it. because as it is its not working right07:16
manveruDelvien: well, that's another chapter07:16
manveruDelvien: you need a new repository, and not everything works well07:17
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Delvienhow do you get a custom wallpapper up? it gave a bunch of Win95 style crappy wallpapers07:17
Delvienlemmme get on enlightenement really quick , brb07:17
manveruhmm07:18
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manverujkop: seas07:18
jkopseas07:19
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Delviencntrl alt T didnt work manveru07:23
Delviennothing really worked.07:23
manveruyeah07:23
manverui imagined that07:24
Delvienmanveru know whats wrong with it?07:24
manveruthis is e16 man - not e1707:24
Delvienany DEB file i can install enlightenment from?07:24
Delvieni hate compiling07:24
manveruyeah... there are07:24
manveruwait a second07:24
manveruok, got it...07:26
manverudeb http://www.soulmachine.net/debian unstable/07:26
manverubut be aware that they are for debian, not ubuntu and you _will_ run into problems07:27
Delvienugh im gonna give up on enlightenment07:27
Delvienthanks for link though, how is XFCE?07:27
manveruuhm... pretty... stable :)07:28
Delvienlol not a good looking UI ?07:28
manverunot at all07:28
Delviensigh07:28
manverubut that is a matter of taste...07:29
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manverudid you try the elive-cd sometime?07:29
Delvienno07:29
manveruhttp://www.get-e.org07:29
manveruit's really worth checking out07:29
DelvienXFCE looks like gnome07:30
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Delvienim gonna try out XFCE... if i cant get Enlight to work from an Adept install its not worth my time,07:32
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Delvienmanveru have any idea how i can get my mouse button to work .. im looking at themes and stuff and enlightenment looks SO OOO OO Nice.. i want it07:35
_ubuntualguna chica de espaa?07:36
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Marco26hola07:37
manveruDelvien: hmm, what mouse do you have?07:37
jpat|awayMarco26: : #kubuntu-es07:37
Marco26thanks,jeje07:37
Delvienmanveru well i have a logitech mx1000, but my touchpad mouse click doesnt work to get the menu up either07:37
Delvienmanveru and alt cnrtl T doesnt get a terminal up07:38
Delvienanyone know how i use a .bin file?07:38
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Delvienits a installer07:38
manveruchmod +x07:39
manveru./whatever.bin07:39
manveruhmmm, what was the shortcut for the terminal... *scratch scratch*07:39
manveructrl+alt+m brings up the menu07:40
Delvienmanveru ill try that in a sec07:40
manveructrl+alt+a the apps-menu07:40
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DelvienBRB07:40
manveruhehe :)07:41
_aaronhey, i just recently installed kubuntu and my volume buttons dont work (pavilion dv1331se) however they worked for ubuntu breezy07:41
Marco26hallo samba girl07:41
Marco26from rio janeiro07:41
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_aaronanyone have any ideas?07:42
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Delvienmanveru none of that worked07:47
manveruok, so your e16 is b0rken07:47
Delvienmanveru sweet07:47
DelvienManveru so i have to compile it now?  ugh07:48
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Delvienmanveru or is there an easier way to install it?07:49
sorush20the reply button doesn't work in yahoo.co.uk mail konqueror?07:49
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Delvienmanveru can i put http://enlightenment.freedesktop.org/ in my sources.list and install via adept ?07:51
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manveruoh hell, sorry but i'm really busy07:51
manverui have _no_ idea07:51
Delvienk thanks anyway07:51
Delvieni forget, where are my sources.list file found anyone?07:52
manveru /etc/apt/sources.list07:52
Delvienty07:52
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our_didiI had no troubles in this upgrade. And I used kubuntu since a couple of days only - I'm not a totally newvbie, however this is due to kubuntu team good  work07:55
our_didiuhm, fonts size is quite screwed up07:55
Delvien!checkinstall07:56
Delvienwheres ubotu ?07:56
sampandelvien  i think he's on vacation -- took some time off to go to the Caribbean and rest iirc07:57
Delvienanyone remember off the top of their head how you auto-apt ./configure something?07:59
manverusudo apt-get install checkinstall07:59
manverusudo checkinstall -D07:59
manveru(the checkinstall in the folder where you want to compile - takes care about most things)08:00
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GameCathi08:01
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GameCatcan anyone tell me why there are a load of menu items missing in konqueror? (I just moved from 5.04 to 5.10)08:02
manverubecause not everything is going smooth?08:03
manveruyou could purge your ~/.kde directory and login again...08:03
Delvienanyone help me out on this http://pastebin.com/45865108:04
Delvieni wish there was an easier way to install enlightenment08:04
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manveruDelvien: go to #e please08:05
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Coolio10hi08:06
troyDelvien: you can run enlightenment using the klik:/ packages :P08:10
Delvientroy where are those located?08:10
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troyhttp://klik.atekon.de08:10
meissnerWhere can I see, what exactly I have for a memory module in my PC?  Thus size, technology and clock rate.08:12
Delvientroy enlightenment is not in there08:12
pipitashttp://enlightenment.klik.atekon.de/08:14
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Delvientroy when i try to click here and download etc. it says protocol not supported08:15
troyDelvien: run the klik protocol installer first08:15
troywget klik.atekon.de/client/install -O -|sh08:15
Delvientroy o08:15
troyit only installs some shell scripts, and adds some loopback devices to /etc/fstab -- no binaries08:15
Delvientory that would make sense08:15
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pipitashttp://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/149008:16
troyI use klik sometimes when ubuntu packages are not present -- works fine for me08:16
Delvientroy enlightenment is not on there which is disssapoingint, because for some reason my enlightenment from Adept is broken08:17
pipitashttp://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/1490 (is specifically about the klik://enlightenment recipe, and its special setup)08:17
pipitasDelvien: again: http://enlightenment.klik.atekon.de/08:17
manveruhey, this klik-stuff really looks cool :)08:18
Delvienpiptas o thanks hehe didnt see it the first time, u said it08:18
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pipitashttp://klik.atekon.de/wiki/index.php/User's_FAQ08:18
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jjesseif i upgrade from breezy to dapper do i automatically get kde 3.5 or do i still have to add sources?08:20
pipitas'klik wins "Linux Format Hottest Pick" award'  ( http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/1669 )08:20
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troyanyway, I think it's cool - it's of somewhat less use to me on amd64, but some packages still work out-of-the-box, like opera :)08:22
Delvienlol all that and it got some HUGE error08:23
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Delvienhttp://pastebin.com/45867808:26
ClayGanyone have a recommendation for dyndns? as far as the app that "phones home" and updates?08:26
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troymy router does that for me using dyndns.org08:27
Delvienhttp://pastebin.com/458678 troy any ideas?08:27
DelvienHow do i set my DISPLAY variable?08:28
troyDelvien: you shouldn't need to... hrmmm paste that log in #klik and see if they know - they put that package together08:29
Delvientroy isnt setting my display something like xset?08:30
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manveruDelvien: this thing is supposed to run in a nxmachine...08:31
troyDelvien: your display is already set if you're in X - however this package should use NX to set a display08:31
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probonoA symlink: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ -> /usr/share/X11/fonts/ fixes it08:32
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probonothis is a (k)ubuntu speciality08:32
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Darkkish_Boxhey i need help installing kubuntu08:41
Darkkish_Boxas dual boot08:42
Darkkish_Boxhello08:44
Darkkish_Boxi find it really hard to beleieve that everyone in here is idle08:45
Darkkish_Boxdamnit im going to cry08:45
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poningrudarkheart: whats wrong?08:47
jjesseDarkkish_Box: what's up?08:48
poningruDarkkish_Box:08:48
jjessesorry was afk in another window08:48
poningruDarkkish_Box: if people are idle here ask in #ubuntu08:48
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triodehey manveru! I got my Tascam US-224 working! (I thought I'd let you know since you helped me out)08:50
manverutriode: glad to hear :)08:51
manveruhow did you manage that?08:51
triodecheck out the thread:08:51
triodehttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3089108:52
triodelook at the last page08:52
triodesome pointers there on how to set up a USB card without disabling the one onboard08:52
Darkkish_Boxhah08:52
Darkkish_BoxOkay08:53
Darkkish_Boxso08:53
manverui see08:53
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manveruDarkkish_Box: you need help?08:53
Darkkish_Boxim trying to install kubuntu08:53
Darkkish_Boxand i got to the part08:53
triodeit was a few options specifying which card to load the firmwares to08:53
manverutriode: will add it to ubotu when he's back :)08:53
triode:)08:53
Darkkish_Boxwhere it said where to install it08:53
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triodemanveru, what do you mean?08:53
Darkkish_Boxand i couldnt figure out how to select a partition08:53
Darkkish_Boxi could change partitions but i couldnt actually select one to install it on08:54
Darkkish_BoxAMD6408:54
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jpatrickDarkkish_Box: make a partition with "/" as it's mount point08:54
triodewhat is ubotu?08:55
Darkkish_Boxwill that effect my windows?08:55
jpatricktriode: a bot08:55
jpatrickDarkkish_Box: depends08:55
ClayGanyone use dyndns here?08:55
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Darkkish_Boxon?08:55
triodeoh, ok :)08:56
jpatrick!tell triode about ubotu08:56
manveruubotu is dead...08:56
triode!08:57
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Darkkish_Boxhello08:59
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Darkkish_Boxim still here08:59
Darkkish_BoxLaughs Out Loud08:59
tomawhat is the differerence betwee kdebase 4:3.5.0-ubuntu0breezy1 and 4:3.5.0-ubuntu1 ?09:01
crimsunthe former is the backport built from the latter09:01
crimsunbreezy vs. dapper09:02
tomaah ok.09:02
dissedanyone who knows any other nzb apps than klibido and knzb?09:04
Delvienwhat does it mean when you click install in adept and it says BREAK (install) as action09:04
triodedoes anybody have any experience with DeMudi?09:05
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Darkkish_Boxcan anyone tell me what to do w/ my linux?09:05
Delvien?09:05
fatejudgerwhy isn't Flurry included in Kubuntu by default now?09:05
Delvienwhat do you mean09:05
fatejudgerit makes me use Xscreensaver09:05
Darkkish_Boxi already said09:05
Darkkish_Boxi installed it09:05
fatejudgerwhich sucks09:05
Darkkish_Boxor09:06
Darkkish_Boxno09:06
Darkkish_Boxi didnt09:06
Darkkish_Boxi started to but when it got to the part to install it on the partition09:06
Darkkish_Boxit only gave me the choices of formatting and making a new partition and using freespace, why cant it use my ext2 linux partition09:06
Darkkish_Boxcan someone help me09:08
jpatrickDarkkish_Box: what have you chosen for it's mount point?09:09
Darkkish_Boxi told you09:10
Darkkish_Boxit didnt get to that part09:10
Darkkish_Boxhang on09:10
Darkkish_Boxlet me try it again09:10
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Darkkish_Boxbbiab09:12
blasjau09:12
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blasde ke va esto??09:13
voicuif i install a program by compiling it, can i delete the src directory after the make install command?09:14
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jpatrickvoicu: yes09:15
voicuok, tks09:17
jpatrickvoicu: you won't be able to uninstall later09:17
jpatrickthat's why I prefer to package programs instead09:18
voicuhow do you do that?09:18
voicuis there a simple set of commands?09:18
chxwhere can I check whether "RenderAccel" is off or on?09:18
jpatrickvoicu: use `checkinstall`09:19
jpatrickinstall it first09:19
jpatrickinstead of make install09:19
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triodewhy isn't alsa-firmware available on the repositories?09:20
triode(kubuntu 5.10)09:21
voicujpatrick: thanks again09:21
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jpatrickvoicu: or if you want to do it professionally see: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuPackagingGuide09:22
hunikaraphink: Are you there please help me!!!09:22
raphinkwhats wrong hunika ?09:23
hunikaraphink: I had some problems with my win xp and I had to reinstall it, but a problem occured with my xp cd so I could not run nor xp neither kubuntu. I have formatted my hard disk and I installed just kubuntu09:24
hunikaraphink: The problem is that I can not install kaffeine-xine engine09:24
hunikaraphink: I have the engines09:24
raphinkhmm09:24
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raphinkwhy?09:24
[miles] evening all09:24
hunikaraphink: I have some errors09:24
hunikaraphink: Where can I post them to you?09:24
raphinkok paste the errors in a pastebin and let me see09:25
raphinkhi [miles] 09:25
hunikaraphink: What is the address of pastebin?09:25
troyhey, with kde3.5 installed I'm getting duplication when I insert a CD - 3.5's media dialog opens, and kubuntu's old 'mount and show' is also happening - is there a way I can disable kubuntu's old behavior?09:25
raphinklook in the topic hunika09:25
hunikaraphink: ok09:25
voicujpatrick: i don't know... i bookmarked for later when i'll have some more experience with linux09:26
hunikaraphink: The problem is that it does not lets me to copy the error text09:26
raphinkhunika: It helps me understand09:27
hunikaraphink: I tried with CTRL + C but it is not working09:27
hunikaraphink: A screenshot it is good?09:27
raphinkooh09:27
raphinkuse the right button of the mouse09:27
raphinkand choose copy09:27
raphink;)09:27
raphinkwhen you're in a console I mean09:27
hunikaraphink: I am not stupid when I use the right button nothing happens09:28
raphinkhmm09:28
raphinkwell send me a screenshot if you prefer09:28
hunikato your e-mail address it is ok?09:28
djk_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/09:29
djk_^^you can upload a screenshot there09:29
raphinksure hunika it's fine09:29
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lqbhi09:29
lqbI don't know what happen but now... X don't start automatically09:30
lqb:S09:30
lqbwhen kubuntu load09:30
lqbI need to write my username and password and then startx09:30
lqbwhy? :S09:30
jpatricklqb: upgrade from 3.4.3->3.5?09:30
lqbno09:30
lqbI don't upgrade anything09:30
troyprobably a runlevel problem, or kdm is crashing09:31
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troywhat happens when you write 'kdm' instead of startx?09:31
hunikaraphink: I have sent a message to your mailbox09:32
raphinkok09:32
lqbyes, I'm having several runlevels issues... but now all seem ok09:32
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hunikaraphink: Thanks for helping me09:32
lqbkdm link is in /etc/rc2.d09:32
lqband inittab is set to start runlevel209:33
troykdm could be crashing still, which would dump you at the console09:33
lqb|troy| wait.. I'll try to write kdm09:33
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Darkkish_Boxhey09:33
Darkkish_Boxok i got it to install09:33
jpatrickboo09:33
Darkkish_Boxwhy does it say 15hrs remaining.09:33
Darkkish_Box>.<09:33
Darkkish_Boxoh wait09:34
jpatrickblimey09:34
Darkkish_Boxit seems to have changed its mind09:34
Darkkish_Box:-D09:34
raphinkhunika: it seems kaffeine-xine is not available for kde 3.5 yet09:34
raphink;)09:34
Darkkish_Boxyeah it was at %17 and it said "(15hr 17mins)09:34
raphinkhunika: either you do without it, or you build it ;)09:35
Darkkish_Boxonly iy went away09:35
Darkkish_Boxso i guess thats not what it meant09:36
Darkkish_Boxheh09:36
hunikaraphink: I reinstalled everything and now I have kde 3.4.309:36
hunikaraphink: Last time you helped me and we could install it09:36
raphinkoh ic09:36
jpatrickvoicu: no problem09:36
lqb|troy| if I write kdm it should start?09:37
troyfrom the console, yes (before you do startkde)09:37
raphinkic09:37
raphinkso it's the contrary hunika ;)09:37
troyif it doesn't, then that's where your problem likely is09:37
lqbok...09:37
raphinkyou should install kde 3.509:37
raphinkhehe09:37
hunikaraphink: So what to do??09:37
lqb|troy| if kdm is broke what can i do09:37
hunikaraphink: But I could intall xine09:37
jpatricklqb: or `sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart`09:37
hunikawhen I had 3.409:38
raphinkhunika: xine doesn't depend on kde09:38
lqb|jpatrick| but the problem is x don't start at the load09:38
jpatrickrestart KDM09:38
hunikaraphink: So what you would reccomend to me?09:38
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raphinkinstall kde 3.5 for example ;)09:39
artemiohey all09:39
lqbare there many news in kde 3.5?09:39
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artemioi am artemio, maybe someone remembers me... if you heard kde system sounds ;-)09:39
Tm_Tlqb: ?09:40
hunikaraphink: But I don't want to download and wait so much, my connection is not so fast you remember09:40
artemioi am looking forward at kubuntu, i hope it will replace mandriva for me09:40
raphinkyes09:40
hunikaraphink: any other option09:40
raphinkwell it took about 1 hour last time I think hunika09:40
raphinkhunika: the other option I see is building the kaffeine-xine package09:40
troykde 3.5 works great for me, with a few bugs here and there from kubuntu integration09:40
raphinkthat'll take a bit less09:40
hunikaraphink: how should I do that?09:40
raphinkbut it'll be harder09:41
hunikaraphink: Anyway I learn it09:41
hunikaraphink: If you have some time to guide me09:41
raphinkhehe09:41
raphinkwell you can install apt-build09:41
raphinkand then use apt-build install kaffeine-xine09:41
lqb|troy| I think I'll try to make work my version before09:41
hunikaraphink: I have in the adept?09:41
raphinkso two steps  :09:41
raphinksudo apt-get install apt-build09:41
raphinkand then09:41
raphinksudo apt-build install kaffeine-xine09:41
raphinkthat might take quite a long time09:42
hunikaJust a moment I am installing FireFox09:42
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hunikaraphink: Anyway can I run Mac os software on kubuntu?09:43
raphinkno, no way that I knwo of hunika09:43
hunikaraphink: I see09:44
hunikaraphink: I thought that both of the os-es are built on unix09:44
hunikaraphink: And it is possible09:44
raphinkthey are both based on unix yes09:44
raphinkbut that doesn't make them compatible09:44
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_nickhey09:45
_nickok09:45
hunikaraphink: In your opinion which is better to install kde 3.5 or apt-build?09:45
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Darkkish_Box2so now im on kubuntu09:45
Darkkish_Box2and i was using konqueror09:46
jpatrickDarkkish_Box2: welcome!09:46
Darkkish_Box2and the screen went all grainy09:46
raphinkdepends on what you want hunika. If you want recent softs, install kde 3.5. If you want to compile kaffeine-xine in your old kde, then apt-build09:46
hunikaraphink: Than I will install kde 3.509:46
jpatrickDarkkish_Box2: that was X starting09:46
hunikaraphink: How can I paste the address in repositories?09:47
Darkkish_Box2X?09:47
Darkkish_Box2it didnt stop.09:47
raphinkwhat do you mean hunika ?09:47
hunikaraphink: so what is the address or how you say to that09:47
hunikaraphink: to update to kde 3.509:47
raphinkgo to kubuntu.org you'll get the addresses hunika09:47
Darkkish_Box2imean when you exited out of konquerer it was black with pink and yellow grains09:47
hunikaraphink: I will thanks09:47
jpatrickDarkkish_Box2: something wrong with X then09:48
Darkkish_Box2what is X?09:48
Darkkish_Box2what about my graphics card09:48
Darkkish_Box2i dont have drivers for it, could that be a problem?09:48
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Darkkish_Box2??09:50
jpatrickDarkkish_Box2: see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X1109:50
hunikaraphink: I think it is being downloaded but extremely fast09:50
jpatrickDarkkish_Box2: reconfigure your X for the correct settings: `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg`09:50
Darkkish_Box2how?09:51
jpatrickrun that command in the konsole09:51
Darkkish_Box2k09:51
jpatrickand follow the instructions09:51
Darkkish_Box2it was all correct09:52
Darkkish_Box2nvidea 6600GT09:52
hunikaraphink: A simple question! Now I have just Linux on My PC but I made a partition for windows. When I have a good cd I can install windows right?09:52
raphinkno09:52
raphinkyou have to instal llinux first09:53
_dirktrue09:53
raphinkif you instal windows afterwards you'll remove grub09:53
_dirkwindows overwrites the MBR09:53
raphinkas far' as I know09:53
hunikaraphink: but if i have a bootable cd09:53
hunika????????09:53
Darkkish_Box2ok its happening09:54
Darkkish_Box2again09:54
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djk_hunika: you can install xp if you already have linux on your pc, you just have to reinstall grub..09:55
_dirkhej mr kde ;)09:55
hunikadjk_: so how to reinstall grub? And my Linux will not dissappear right?09:55
voicubut if you reinstall grub you might damage the windows partition09:56
djk_hunika: you can use your breezy cd to reinstall grub..09:56
djk_voicu: why???09:57
jpatrickDarkkish_Box2: you have to log out og KDE and press Ctrl-Shift-Backspace09:57
djk_hunika: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76652.html  << there's a simple step-by-step09:57
hunikadjk_: thanks09:57
djk_voicu: why would you damage the xp partition if you reinstall grub?09:57
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voicudjk_: well, it happened to me, i installed linux on a hdd with windows and my ntfs partition just dissapeared09:58
chaoticgeekhi, can I get some help on my fstab?09:58
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Darkkish_Box2log out of KDE?09:58
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dmwhats the command for a dist-upgrade?? and would it upgrade to dapper, or keep with breezy?09:58
djk_voicu: if that was the case, you probably did something wrong during that installation, because with your logic, it would also happen when installing grub for the first time..09:58
triodekubuntu dilema: to upgrade or not to upgrade?09:58
jpatrickdm: keep with Breezy09:59
chaoticgeekI want to be able to completly read, write, execute everything as myself. However I can only read from it09:59
Darkkish_Box2how do i log out of KDE im a n00b with linux09:59
triodeI had issues upgrading kubuntu the last time, I had to reinstall the whole thing...09:59
jpatrickdm: depends on your sources.list09:59
triodenow I'm not sure if I should upgrade. What do you think?09:59
hunikadjk_: But if I have a bootable Win xp cd I can not simply boot from bios before kubuntu loads?09:59
_dirkctrl alt backspace  Darkkish_Box09:59
voicudjk_: probably, but i just said that you should be careful with those things...09:59
chaoticgeekI've changed it in the gui for the disks so that I could use it, but it still will not let me.09:59
jpatrickDarkkish_Box2: K-Menu->Log-out->End Current Session09:59
jpatrick_dirk: why did you do that?10:00
djk_hunika: of course you can. as long as you have set your BIOS to boot the CD-drive first..10:00
_dirkis the easiest way jpatrick  ^_^10:00
hunikadjk_: I am speaking about this thing! And then I can use a partition and install win xp10:00
jpatrick_dirk: you can damage your things that way10:01
hunikadjk_: But question if I have installed xp on a different partition10:01
_dirklike?10:01
jpatrickstuff10:01
hunikadjk:_ I have to reinstall grub anyway to choose between linux and xp10:01
hunika?10:01
djk_hunika: yes.10:01
hunikadjk_: Thanks you helped me a lot10:01
djk_sure10:02
jpatrickhunika: you can edit C:\boot.ini10:02
jpatrickto boot (K)Ubuntu10:02
hunikaI see guys10:02
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hunikaToday I had big problems with my pc and I could not reinstall xp cos I had problems with my cd. Than I formatted everything and I installed kubuntu10:03
jpatrickKnowerrors: boo10:03
hunikaKubuntu is better than windows I am sure10:03
djk_jpatrick: i don't think xp still has a boot.ini10:03
jpatrickdjk_: it does10:03
Knowerrorsjpatrick: its Christmas, not Halloween, get it strait dude10:03
jpatrickIt certainly is10:04
djk_jpatrick: interesting. locate .ini doesn't find it.10:04
Knowerrorsstupit #ubuntu is calling me unregged again10:04
jpatrickKnowerrors: We wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year ;)10:04
jpatrickdjk_: it's "hidden"10:04
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KnowerrorsSeasons greetings ;)10:05
jpatrickdjk_: open it in Notepad or something10:05
djk_jpatrick: that doesn't matter.. anyway, just found it.10:06
hunikadjk_: Can I have both gnome and kde?10:06
KnowerrorsNow 100% kde 3.5 free!10:06
jpatrickhunika: yes10:06
djk_hunika: yes, and you can have fluxbox/openbox/e17/whateveryouwant ;)10:06
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hunikajpatrick: And can I simply switch between them10:06
djk_hunika: yes10:06
jpatricklog out one, log in the other10:07
hunikadjk_: These are just GUIs right?10:07
Knowerrorshunika: just choose session type at you GDM or KDM login screen10:07
djk_yes10:07
Knowerrorshunika: desktops with window managers10:08
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hunikaI see10:08
hunikaI am just curious about gnome10:08
tsbGreetings. Was wondering if there's something similar to emifreq (http://zzrough.free.fr/emifreq.php), only for KDE?10:08
hunikaWhich is better / more beautifull?10:09
tsbhunika: just try them both10:09
Knowerrorshunika: IMHO, KDE looks best and has most customization10:09
tsbhunika: personally, I prefer KDE. it's more customizable..10:09
hunikaI understand10:09
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Knowerrorsif you like mac, you might like Gnome better10:09
hunikaThanks for giving me infos10:10
KnowerrorsXfce runs the fastest though10:10
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tsbmany prefer gnome over kde because "kde looks silly and can't do X", but the are generally clueless :)10:10
_ubuntuhello10:10
tsbnow, about the cpu throttling thing...10:10
tsbanyone using any?10:10
hunikaKnowerrors: I never had mac pc but i like how it looks. A theme for kde which looks like mac os x?10:10
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jpatrickhunika: bagira10:11
dmwhat is the command for a dist-upgrade??????10:11
Knowerrorshunika: xfce is a seperate desktop choice...10:11
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jpatrickor something like that10:11
hunikaI see thanks10:11
djk_Knowerrors: kde runs faster than xfce on my p3 500 laptop with 128mb ram...so yea..10:11
chaoticgeeksudo apt-get dist-upgrade10:11
dmchaoticgeek and if im running 3.4.3 will it upgrade to 3.5?10:11
Knowerrorsdjk_: thats amazing, Ive always heard xfce is faster10:11
djk_Knowerrors: yea, me too.10:12
chaoticgeekok, lets reboot and see if I screwed grub up10:12
Knowerrorsdjk_: ok what you said sounded like the oposite, lol10:12
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djk_Knowerrors: ehm, no, i always heard that it's faster, but when i tried it, it wasnt :p10:13
Knowerrorsok, gotcha10:13
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Knowerrorshunika: if you got a high performance computer, then try kxdocker, it give kde a docker bar like OSX, very nice but resource intensive10:14
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jpatrickhunika: lastest verison is being packages by me :)10:15
djk_there's the baghira theme, which looks like macs theme10:15
chaoticgeekwoot, I did not screw up gurb :)10:15
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djk_is there a jump'n'run for kde in the repos?10:16
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jpatrickdjk_: a what?10:17
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Knowerrorsdjk_: whats jump'n'run?10:17
manverujpatrick: you know - a jump, jump, faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaallllll10:17
kuchahola10:17
djk_jpatrick: a jump'n'run game.. super mario world was a jump'n'run for example10:17
jpatrickah right10:18
chaoticgeeksuper mario on the gameboy was so fun10:18
jpatrickKGoldrun ?10:18
chaoticgeekI still remember the big old gameboys10:18
hunikajpatrick: My comp is 1.3 Duron with 256 ram / 32 mb Video Card / 40 Gb hard disk10:18
jpatrickhunika: Mine? - 128MB / Pent II / 4MB video / 11 GB HD10:19
jpatrickI'm getting a laptop for Christmas10:19
djk_jpatrick: thanks :)  just played jazz jackrabbit 2 yesterday and it was fun :)10:19
hunikajpatrick: I see that is quite slow right?10:19
Knowerrorswonder if anyone in here runs arcade emulators on kubuntu, like mame...10:19
jpatrickhunika: not quite slow...10:20
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jpatrickVERY slow10:20
djk_hunika: jpatrick's pc is perfect for old games10:20
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hunikajpatrick: And you use Kubuntu breezy?10:20
jpatrickdjk_: it's KGoldrunner10:20
jpatrickhunika: yep10:20
jpatrickwas on Dapper10:20
djk_jpatrick: yea thanks, it's installed :)10:20
jpatrickuntil something important broke10:21
djk_does anyone here use dosbox?10:21
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SpentCasinghow do i install a python script?10:21
voicui installed XFCE by compiling the sources but it doesn't appear in the 'session type' menu (at logon)10:22
djk_seth_k: are there any good gui's for it? the ones mentioned on the dosbox site are not that nice..10:22
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jpatrickSpentCasing: ?10:22
jpatrickrun it10:22
voicuhow do i add it to the menu?10:22
hunikajpatrick: And I was affraid of installing kubuntu cos it is so new, and as I heard windows vista needs a powerhouse so I thought that kubuntu is the sam10:22
hunikae10:22
seth_kdjk_, I haven't found one :(10:22
jpatrickpython <script name>10:23
SpentCasingjpatrick: well i downloaded a tarball, and it came with 2 folders and a python script, what do i do with it?10:23
chaoticgeekdo I have to use firefox with klik?10:23
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djk_seth_k: :( i don't know how to use dosbox in cli10:23
LeeJunFanugh! if you mount /home somewhere in a dir with -o bind, don't rm -rf that dir. :(10:23
djk_seth_k: i can't type a :  and the gui's for windows won't let me set higher cycles..10:24
seth_kdjk_, yeah. I dunno, I just use it for a couple programs and they didn't require much tweaking10:24
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djk_mmh, i'm tempted to use freedos with qemu..10:26
Knowerrorswhats a good sensor package for kde?  (for cpu load, memory, temperature... etc)10:26
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voicuhow do i logon with another window manager (xfce)?10:27
jpatrickKnowerrors: superkaramba themes10:27
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Knowerrorsjpatrick: what about non superkarambe, like just for the regular tray?10:29
SpentCasingjpatrick: well that was simple enough, thx man10:29
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apacheloggervoicu: there's a button in kdm where you can choose the session type to start10:31
Tallia1Kubuntuhi there10:31
tsbwhoa10:31
tsbthrottling the cpu froze my computer10:31
Tallia1Kubuntuhow katapult scan folder to find applications?10:31
tsbtried again, now it worked10:31
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voicuapachelogger: it doesn't appear there, that's the problem10:31
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apacheloggervoicu: than it's probably not properly installed10:31
Tallia1Kubuntuhow katapult scan folder to find applications?10:32
Tallia1Kubuntuor better which are the folder that it scans?10:32
apacheloggerTallia1Kubuntu: konsole -> echo $PATH10:32
apacheloggerthough it's just a guess10:32
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SpentCasing!sources10:33
SpentCasing!restricted10:33
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SpentCasinghmmm, used to work10:33
sampan!restrictedformats10:33
sampanubotu isn't here ;)10:34
SpentCasingi see10:34
voicuapachelogger: could you give me a hint what to try? i installed by compiling each package. i didn't get any errors10:34
SpentCasingi get no sound in flash, anyone remember the wiki?10:34
chaoticgeekyou could use the search button on the wiki.ubuntu.org10:34
SpentCasingk thx10:35
sampantallia1kubuntu  iirc katapault only finds applications that have a kde .desktop file -- it won't find all applications, not even all those in your $PATH10:35
chaoticgeekbut I do remember hearing something about flash not working10:35
Tallia1Kubuntui see sampan10:35
Tallia1Kubuntubut tell me wise man10:36
Tallia1Kubuntuwhere the *.desktop files are located10:36
SpentCasingthat sux, richard pryor just died :(10:36
apachelogger/usr/share/applications/kde10:36
sampanyou can try locate <appname>.desktop to find them10:36
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apacheloggerTallia1Kubuntu: and it's probably not searching the files it self ;-)10:37
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sampanaccording to what one of the devs told me, when i asked about katapault a while back, katapault won't even find all apps that have a .desktop file -- the .desktop file has to be in KDE format, so it won't find them if they're in gnome or other formats10:39
deadloggerthen I know10:39
sampanwhat the differences are, i have no clue10:39
deadloggerit's just asking syscoca ;-)10:39
DelvienHey anyone know the command to upgrade a distro?10:39
Delviensomeone said it earlier10:39
zaventhfrom apt-get?10:40
Delvienaye10:40
zaventhsudo apt-get dist-upgrade10:40
Delvienif i do that , what exactly will it do?10:40
Delvieni dont wanna go and do it and find out that it will break my build10:41
zaventhwell, it shouldn't, but it will install the latest packages of everything you have installed10:41
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Delvienwill it install kde 3.5?10:42
Delviennm it didnt install anything hehe10:42
deadloggeractually the repo has to be adapted ;-)10:44
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deadloggerto get 3.5 just add it's repo -> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php10:44
ClayGHow hard is it to set up a webserver?10:44
ClayGFairly easy with ubuntu?10:44
zaventhabout as easy as anything else10:45
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ClayGlol, really?10:45
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zaventhjust install apache and edit the config file10:46
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wadehh10:46
wadehi10:46
zaventhim sure there are several articles on it..10:46
deadloggerClayG: for configurations you can use webmin and it's apache module10:46
ClayGnice I've been wanted to set up a webserver on my local network10:47
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Coolio10hi10:48
skudkillerbonsoir, petit souci avec kde 3.5 et amule lowid ??10:49
Insomniac-did you forward the ports?10:50
Coolio10quel est votre problme?10:50
_dirkmmm10:50
Coolio10vous avez un LAN10:50
skudkilleroui, avant kde 3.5 j'etais en highid10:50
_dirkinstalling hostap drivers10:50
_dirkanyone expericed with it?10:51
skudkilleret maintenant je suis en low id10:51
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skudkillerles ports sont ouvert dans le router10:51
Coolio10avez-vous install des programmes qui emploient l'Internet?10:52
skudkillernon10:52
deadloggeryou know that the strangest thing is that I nearly understand skudkiller O.o10:52
skudkillerso am i10:52
Coolio10un certain programme sur votre ordinateur bloque les ports10:53
skudkillercomment voir lekel ?10:54
Coolio10ou vous avez un raccordement lent ou quelque chose le rendant lent10:54
skudkillerrien n'a chang apart la mise a jour de kde10:55
Coolio10je n'ai pas le kde encore mais recherche un programme qui vous laisse voir les raccordements entrants et sortants10:55
Coolio10les thats impairs puis, peut-tre la mise  jour installe plus de programmes qui exigent votre raccordement et ralentit l'emule vers le bas10:56
skudkillerok je vais voir comment sur le site , merci @+10:56
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Coolio10Aucun problme et moi ne suis rellement franais.  J'utilise un traducteur.10:57
Coolio10anyone here?10:58
_frankCoolio10: va a #kubuntu-fr pour discuter en francois10:58
_frankCoolio10: you're using a translator?10:58
_frankfrancais10:58
Coolio10yes10:58
Coolio10i wanted to help10:58
Coolio10ill go in french one to help lol10:59
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tomsdimensioni installed the server installation of ubuntu, now how do i install kubuntu dapper (what are the repositories for kubuntu dapper)??11:05
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apacheloggerjust change breezy or what ever to dapper11:06
apacheloggerthen apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:07
apacheloggerthat will install all kde packages11:07
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JDStonehow do I use the kubuntu memtest86+ program?11:08
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tomsdimensionapachelogger, it doesnt work cuz it says it has missing dependencies that cant be downloaded11:10
apacheloggertomsdimension: if you change all repos to dapper?11:11
tomsdimensiondo i have to install kubuntu first? cuz i installed the server version of ubuntu11:11
nitsujCan somebody tell me where to go to figure out how to format and add a second hard drive for Kubuntu?11:11
tomsdimensionnitsuj, the second hd should be hdb and it should come up with you are installing kubuntu11:11
nitsujI installed Kubuntu on my other hard drive but I want to use it as storage.11:12
apacheloggertomsdimension: kubuntu is just ubuntu with kde11:12
apacheloggerso you can change from kubuntu to ubuntu and vice versa without problems11:12
tomsdimensionapachelogger, i know which is why i am wondering why i get the error  Package akode is not available, but is referred to by another package.11:13
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apacheloggerO.o11:13
tomsdimensionactually, i copied and pasted the new dapper repositories from the ubuntu website11:13
nitsujI need to have my second HD with 1 partition and able to use it for storage.11:14
apacheloggertomsdimension: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=akode&searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all11:14
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royhi, i have an iso that I want to emulate so the comp thinks its really on a cd, I know how to do it on windows but not on linux11:15
tomsdimensioneeh screw it, i'll just download the iso11:15
nitsujHow can I make this 1 partition to use for storage?11:15
nitsuj   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System11:15
nitsuj/dev/hda1   *           1        9541    76638051   83  Linux11:15
nitsuj/dev/hda2            9542        9729     1510110    5  Extended11:15
nitsuj/dev/hda5            9542        9729     1510078+  82  Linux swap / Solaris11:15
tomsdimensionnitsuj, so you dont know how to partition your second hd?11:16
tomsdimensionnitsuj, type in cfdisk /dev/hdb11:16
nitsujthanks11:17
nitsujFatal error can not acces drive11:17
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tomsdimensionnitsuj, hmm, i got the samething11:17
nitsujWhen I type just fdisk I get this Unable to open /dev/hdb11:18
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tomsdimensionnitsuj, type in sudo cfdisk /dev/hdb11:20
djk_roy: http://www.techspot.com/vb/topic483.html11:20
tomsdimensionyou need root priveleges11:20
tomsdimensionyou need to create the partition and specify what type you want11:21
nitsujthere we go... now...11:21
nitsujhmm11:21
tomsdimensionnitsug, say new and select the max space (the default number)11:21
tomsdimensionthen exit cfdisk11:21
tomsdimensionnitsuj, got it?11:23
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nitsujhmmm... I think so. let me see11:23
tomsdimensiondo you know how to format with the filesystem that you want?11:23
nitsujthere we go... now...11:24
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tomsdimensionhere is how you would format with ext3 mke2fs -j /dev/hdb111:24
tomsdimensionor /dev/hdb11:24
tomsdimensionnot quite sure which way with just one partition11:25
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tomsdimensionthen mount it to a directory like mount /dev/hdb(1) /mnt/otherhd11:25
nitsujext3 command not found11:26
tomsdimensionif you want it to mount automatically when you boot, you need to add it to your /etc/fstab file11:26
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tomsdimensionno, dont put ext3 in11:26
tomsdimensionjust type "mke2fs -j /dev/hdb1"11:26
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tomsdimensionif that doest work, try putting sudo before the command11:27
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nitsujworks11:27
zaventhanyone here know php well?11:27
nitsujnow to mount11:27
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tomsdimensionmake a directory somewhere you'd like to mount that hd11:28
tomsdimensioni traditionally like: /mnt/somedirectory but ubuntu likes to stick everything under /media/somedirectory11:28
tomsdimensionget it mounted?11:30
nitsujhmmm... says mount: mount point /mnt/otherhd does not exist11:30
freeman2411can someone help me how i can play dvd movies optimal11:30
freeman2411with best image quality?11:30
tomsdimensionfreeman2411, i would look under www.ubuntuguide.org11:30
zaventhsudo mkdir /mnt/otherhd11:31
tomsdimensionthat is old but can be useful11:31
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tomsdimensionnitsuj, you have to make the mount folder first11:31
nitsujHmmm... make a mount folder?11:32
tomsdimensionyes, are you familier with mounting drives under linux?11:32
tomsdimensiondrives are mounted to a directory/folder11:32
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chopehi, im trying to change a folders owner by 'sudo chown chope. folder' and I get chown: operation not permitted, i've tried with files and i get the same msg, what am i doing wrong11:32
chope?11:32
nitsujNope... linux user x3 weeks. hehe. But said goodbye to Windows forever.11:32
freeman2411ok which player you are usig11:33
freeman2411using11:33
tomsdimensionnitsuj, there arent drive letters like windows11:33
tomsdimensionnitsuj, do you have an aim or yahoo im address?11:33
nitsujI have msn11:34
tomsdimensionhmm, nm, i just want to get out of the way of the other people in this room11:34
Xemanth^what about google talk?11:34
Xemanth^or dude... icq :|11:34
tomsdimensioni dont have either11:35
nitsujWell I know I got the hard part done. I know I read somewhere about the mounting11:35
tomsdimensionanyway, nitsuj, drives are mounted under a directory rather than a letter like winblows11:35
mister_robototomsdimension, why not just go to some random irc name?11:35
chopeDoes anyone know?11:36
tomsdimensionnitsuj, go to room #tomtomtom11:36
Hobbseechope: i think you want "sudo chown chope.chope folder"11:37
mister_robototomsdimension: just an fyi, you can also use "/msg <name>" to start a private conversation11:37
tomsdimensionmister_roboto, well it says private messages arent allowed for some reason11:37
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Hobbsee!register11:37
Hobbseetomsdimension: you need to register first11:38
Hobbsee /msg nickserv help register11:38
chopeHobbsee: I get the same thing11:38
Hobbseechope: hmmm11:38
zaventhchope.. sudo chown chope:chope folder ?11:39
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chopei think its a fstab problem11:40
chopey wanted to change mountpoints and replaced 'default' with /mnt/c in the drive11:40
chopeI wanted..11:40
chopeAnd after that it dissapeared from media:/11:41
chopecould that be related?11:41
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hunikaraphink: Are you there?11:42
raphinkyep11:42
raphinkas long as you ping me namely I can be there ;)11:42
hunikaraphink: I have successfully installed kde 3.5 xine and everything11:42
raphinkgreat :)11:42
hunikabut kaffeine needs some decoders11:42
raphinkgood job you did11:42
raphinkw32codecs if you wanna watch some weird formats ;)11:43
djk_raphink: which codecs does w32codecs contain?11:43
hunikaraphink: How can I get those?11:43
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raphinkdjk_: mpg, wmv, avi and others of the kind I think11:44
djk_avi is just a container..11:44
raphink!restrictedformats11:44
djk_there's no bot atm11:44
raphinkah ok11:45
raphink;)11:45
djk_at least not in here..11:45
hunikaraphink: where can I get w32 codecs????11:45
chopeanybody knows if changing the 'defaults' options to 'rw' in fstab can lead to that chown problem?11:45
raphinklook on the wiki hunika11:45
hunikawhat is that?11:45
chopehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu11:46
raphinkhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com11:46
zaventhchope: most probably11:46
zaventhpart of the "defaults" is "rw" option anyway11:46
hunikaraphink: I could not find w32 codecs there11:47
raphinkhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats11:47
hunikathanks11:48
chopeok ill change it back to "defaults" and see what happens with chown..thank you all who answered11:48
chope(ps: i may be back!)11:48
hunikaraphink:  It is beeing donwloaded :)11:49
raphinkcool11:49
hunikaraphink: I am getting used to Linux11:49
hunika:D11:49
hunikaI managed to install KDE 3.5 alone without your help11:50
hunika:)11:50
raphinkheh you're on your way to independence on linux ;)11:50
zaventhgoogle is a linux user's best friend11:50
hunika:) Yes definately I am11:50
raphinkand to be able to help others, too :)11:50
hunikaI installed firefox, it is so fast11:51
raphinkI don't like firefox personaly11:51
raphinkwell on Mac or Windows I do11:51
raphinkbut not on my box11:51
hunikaWhy?11:53
hunikaI think konqueror is not better than firefox11:53
hunikait is slower11:53
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raphinkwell for what I do with my browser, I wouldn't use firefox11:55
raphinkI need ftp, ssh and more all the time11:55
raphinkand to split my windows in parts11:55
raphinkwith different protocols in different parts11:56
raphinkso I wouldn't change my konqueror for FF11:56
hunikaI understand11:57
hunikaI use both of them11:57
hunikaAnd I just simply surf the web11:57
hunikaI would like to have a winamp base skin for xmms11:57
hunikawhere can I get something like that11:58
raphinkI don't like xmms either11:58
raphinkhehe11:58
hunikaI like it is like winamp11:58
raphinkon the xmms site I guess11:58
chopewell, hi again, i replaced fstab with the backup but chown is still giving 'Operation not permitted', and drives are still missing from media:/11:58
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raphinkchope: what would you run your chown on?11:59
choperaphink: on a folder11:59
raphinkwhat folder ?12:00
chopemp312:00
raphinkwell I mean is it a folder you own already?12:00
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chopeits owned by root12:00
raphinkdid you use sudo ?12:00
hunikaraphink: I am installing w32codecs12:01
chopeyes12:01
raphinkwhat did you get ?12:01
zaventhchope: is that like a folder on your windows drive or something?12:01
chopeyes12:01
zaventhah, that is the problem then12:02
zaventhits NTFS?12:02
chopeis it fstab?12:02
chopeno fat3212:02
zaventhoh12:02
raphinkhehe12:02
hunikaraphink: Kaffeine is not working. Does not play anything. I have installed xine and codecs too. Now I can not get an error message12:02
raphinkwhat does it say?12:03
hunikarpahink: Absolutely nothing12:03
zaventhpaste the fstab line for that drive12:03
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raphinkhunika: what file did you play?12:03
hunikaraphink: mp912:04
hunikasorry12:04
hunikamp312:04
chopei didnt have any problem in hoary then i try to update but i ruined the kernel so i formatted and installed breezy from the cd and since then, i wasnt able to write to my fat drives12:04

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