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| (mdke/#ubuntu-doc) bloody hell | 12:34 | |
| (mdke/#ubuntu-doc) i don't envy the person who has to read that | 12:34 | |
| LaserJock | mdke: can I get the svn branch you are working on? | 12:35 |
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| mdke | sure it's branches/breezy | 12:35 |
| mdke | seems like basically everything is in the debdiff | 12:35 |
| mdke | LaserJock, I haven't committed any of the built package naturally | 12:37 |
| mdke | do i need to pass any flags to debdiff? | 12:37 |
| LaserJock | ok so did you do have the two .dsc files? | 12:38 |
| mdke | yes | 12:38 |
| LaserJock | so did you do debdiff first.dsc second.dsc ? | 12:39 |
| mdke | yeah | 12:40 |
| mdke | all hell broke loose | 12:40 |
| LaserJock | ok, just a sec, I'm building the breezy source package | 12:41 |
| mdke | the new one? | 12:41 |
| LaserJock | yes | 12:41 |
| mdke | cool | 12:41 |
| mdke | it will take a long time | 12:42 |
| LaserJock | doing the debdiff now | 12:43 |
| mdke | how did it build so fast? | 12:43 |
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| mdke | hiya rob1 | 12:44 |
| rob1 | hi mdke | 12:44 |
| LaserJock | ok, so the debdiff is 11 | 12:44 |
| LaserJock | Mb | 12:44 |
| LaserJock | because of all the .svn | 12:45 |
| mdke | hmm | 12:45 |
| mdke | ahh | 12:46 |
| mdke | LaserJock, so how did you build it so quick? | 12:46 |
| rob1 | just reading your email about the meeting mdke | 12:46 |
| rob1 | sounds like a good idea | 12:47 |
| LaserJock | mdke: I'm just good ;-) | 12:47 |
| mdke | rob1, cool :) | 12:47 |
| LaserJock | mdke: what command did you use to build the source package? | 12:47 |
| mdke | LaserJock, debuild | 12:47 |
| === rob1 has a week of work left before he gets really cracking on the guide | ||
| mdke | rob1, ah good i've timed it right then. When is good for the meeting? | 12:48 |
| LaserJock | hhmm, I used debuild also but I started it before I told you so maybe it was the same amount of time | 12:48 |
| mdke | LaserJock, did it build all the localised stuff? | 12:48 |
| theCore | what are you doing, guys ? | 12:48 |
| mdke | LaserJock, so I take it the breezy package wasn't built with all the .svn stuff then? | 12:49 |
| rob1 | mdke, any time apart from 0400z onwards today | 12:51 |
| LaserJock | mdke: where there many revisions after the package (that is currently in breezy) was made? | 12:51 |
| mdke | LaserJock, none | 12:51 |
| mdke | to my knowledge | 12:52 |
| mdke | rob1, so not today | 12:52 |
| mdke | rob1, what day? | 12:52 |
| LaserJock | ok, then I think that the .svn's must have been removed | 12:52 |
| rob1 | if its today, some time in the next four hours is good | 12:53 |
| mdke | rob1, me too | 12:53 |
| mdke | Madpilot, how about you? | 12:53 |
| theCore | can i do something to help ? | 12:53 |
| mdke | theCore, i think I will ask the same developer that took care of the breezy package to help | 12:54 |
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| theCore | mdke, ok | 12:55 |
| LaserJock | mdke: I think I got it | 12:55 |
| mdke | rob1, LaserJock cool | 12:55 |
| rob1 | wazzup? | 12:59 |
| mdke | nah, i mean cool on freenode | 12:59 |
| rob1 | oh yeah :0 | 12:59 |
| rob1 | :) | 12:59 |
| LaserJock | mdke: I thought you were telling rob1 that I was cool j/k | 01:05 |
| rob1 | heh | 01:05 |
| mdke | that too | 01:05 |
| mdke | especially if you can fix my package | 01:05 |
| LaserJock | well, I got rid of the .svn stuff so now the debdiff is 741k | 01:08 |
| mdke | hmm | 01:08 |
| LaserJock | but there is still a lot of differences | 01:08 |
| rob1 | oh god, theres a crazy frog christmas song.. | 01:08 |
| mdke | LaserJock, which files? | 01:08 |
| LaserJock | it looks to be translation related | 01:09 |
| mdke | oh shit | 01:09 |
| mdke | i guess jeff built some new translations and didn't commit them | 01:09 |
| LaserJock | a german version of the faqguide? | 01:09 |
| mdke | LaserJock, the docs are translated, yeah :) | 01:09 |
| mdke | ok lemme try this package | 01:10 |
| mdke | http://doc.ubuntu.com/debs/breezy/ | 01:11 |
| mdke | if anyone wants to test | 01:11 |
| LaserJock | ok, I got 27 files changed | 01:11 |
| mdke | LaserJock, i'm not _that_ bothered because we were going to do translation update anyhow | 01:11 |
| mdke | i wanna see if it works | 01:12 |
| mdke | :) | 01:12 |
| LaserJock | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5568 | 01:12 |
| LaserJock | but does such a large debdiff make it less likely to get in breezy-updates? | 01:13 |
| mdke | hmm | 01:13 |
| mdke | i don't think so now | 01:14 |
| mdke | LaserJock, any idea what the changes to faqguide.css are? | 01:14 |
| Burgwork | LaserJock, depends on what is in the debdiff | 01:14 |
| Burgwork | LaserJock, raw text will not make it harder, IMHO | 01:14 |
| LaserJock | mdke: just a sec | 01:14 |
| mdke | also, gnome/Makefile worries me | 01:14 |
| mdke | so does libs/faqguide-html* | 01:15 |
| LaserJock | the only difference in faqguide.css is ".revhistory { font-size: 20%; }" | 01:16 |
| mdke | ah... | 01:16 |
| mdke | thanks | 01:16 |
| mdke | we don't ship the faqguide html anyway, so it doesn't matter | 01:17 |
| === mdke remembers a few basic things | ||
| mdke | lol | 01:17 |
| LaserJock | in gnome/Makefile many of the changes are related to adding --xinclude to xsltproc | 01:18 |
| mdke | ok | 01:18 |
| mdke | no problem | 01:18 |
| mdke | i think actually none of those files are actually in the package | 01:18 |
| LaserJock | anyway, what I did to get the the debuild to work is I added -I.svn | 01:19 |
| mdke | ah cool thanks | 01:19 |
| === mdke writes down | ||
| LaserJock | that will exclude all the .svn directories from being included in the .orig.tar.gz file | 01:19 |
| LaserJock | -i might work too | 01:21 |
| mdke | i've done this: | 01:22 |
| mdke | ubuntu-doc@hudson:~$ cat .devscripts | 01:22 |
| mdke | DEBUILD_DPKG_BUILDPACKAGE_OPTS="-I.bzr -I.svn" | 01:22 |
| rob1 | I guess no dg meeting today? | 01:24 |
| mdke | rob1, i think it would probably be a bit short notice | 01:25 |
| mdke | i would be up for it, but I'd like a few more peeps | 01:25 |
| rob1 | who do you want to be here for it? | 01:25 |
| mdke | Madpilot, whoever else | 01:25 |
| mdke | jjesse said he was interested | 01:25 |
| rob1 | yeah, the kubuntu guys have been bugging for a copy of the dg, so the quicker we get this soughted out and done the better :) | 01:26 |
| mdke | yeah | 01:26 |
| mdke | jeez | 01:28 |
| mdke | the package is building all the localised html, even though we don't ship it | 01:28 |
| mdke | what a pain | 01:28 |
| mdke | i might cut it out | 01:28 |
| rob1 | mdke, are you messing with the dg currently? | 01:36 |
| mdke | rob1, nope | 01:36 |
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| LaserJock | mdke: how long does it usually take to get commit access to the doc-team repo? | 01:40 |
| mdke | LaserJock, a decent time :( | 01:40 |
| LaserJock | ok | 01:40 |
| rob1 | About Ubuntu -> What is Ubuntu looks like it was taken from Wikipedia (I got it from the UG though), should we ditch it? | 01:44 |
| mdke | we can rework it if necessary i think | 01:45 |
| mdke | maybe draw from the About Ubuntu doc | 01:45 |
| rob1 | what a pita | 01:45 |
| mdke | if it overlaps with About Ubuntu, and we decide to ship About ubuntu, we can ditch it | 01:46 |
| rob1 | I'd still like to keep something brief along those lines though in there | 01:46 |
| mdke | well, if we ship both, we can interlink them | 01:47 |
| LaserJock | i gotta go, cya all | 01:52 |
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| Kingbahamut | lambert | 02:01 |
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| lambert_ | kb, | 02:16 |
| Kingbahamut | aye sir | 02:17 |
| lambert_ | just replying, moving slow | 02:18 |
| Kingbahamut | ahh | 02:18 |
| Kingbahamut | Wasnt Todd Lambert a basketball player in America? | 02:18 |
| lambert_ | ?? not sure | 02:18 |
| theCore | ls | 02:18 |
| lambert_ | I only know jack lambert of the 70's steelers | 02:18 |
| Kingbahamut | ahh | 02:18 |
| Bonzodog | https://launchpad.net/people/bonzodog01/ | 02:21 |
| Bonzodog | I have signed it | 02:21 |
| manicka | hoot.... well done | 02:23 |
| Kingbahamut | lol | 02:24 |
| Kingbahamut | bout time bonz | 02:24 |
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| theCore | #ubuntu has been attacked | 03:27 |
| mdke | happened in #launchpad earlier today | 03:28 |
| Madpilot | under control now | 03:28 |
| mdke | hey Madpilot | 03:29 |
| theCore | it was crazy | 03:29 |
| Kingbahamut | lol | 03:30 |
| Kingbahamut | I hate it when that happens | 03:30 |
| Kingbahamut | they determine who? | 03:30 |
| mdke | Madpilot, see my mail about a quick meeting on the desktopguide? | 03:30 |
| Madpilot | mdke: I did, haven't had time to respond yet | 03:30 |
| mdke | Madpilot, cool :) | 03:30 |
| theCore | Kingbahamut, not yet | 03:31 |
| mdke | my mail is lagging 10-24 hours behind | 03:31 |
| mdke | Kingbahamut, just script kiddies | 03:31 |
| mdke | setting -R or -r on the channel should do the trick | 03:31 |
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| Bonzodog | mdke: have signed the CoC tonight | 03:32 |
| mdke | Bonzodog, hello, glad to hear it | 03:33 |
| Bonzodog | thanks :) | 03:34 |
| manicka | Bonzo: How does it feel to be an ubuntero? | 04:01 |
| Bonzodog | it's good | 04:01 |
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| Bonzodog | It feels like I can really count myself in now to making a contribution | 04:02 |
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| Kingbahamut | lol | 04:20 |
| Kingbahamut | Bonz left | 04:20 |
| Kingbahamut | darn | 04:20 |
| lambert_ | kb, do you get my responses back? | 04:21 |
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| LaserJock | mdke: ping? | 05:30 |
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| robotgeek | hi, i think the packaging guide here has a few error. it's in draft, so i tht i would let you guys know? | 10:17 |
| robotgeek | http://doc.ubuntu.com/generic/packagingguide/C/index.html | 10:17 |
| Madpilot | robotgeek: are you on the -doc mailing list? | 10:18 |
| robotgeek | Madpilot: no, | 10:18 |
| robotgeek | i can join up real quick,though | 10:18 |
| robotgeek | okay, an i just point out the errors, and you guys take care of it :) | 10:19 |
| Madpilot | given that it's dead here, you might be best to sent mail to the list pointing out the typos | 10:19 |
| robotgeek | i don't mind making changes to the source and submitting patches | 10:19 |
| rob1 | I'll be back in the next 20 minutes or so | 10:19 |
| Madpilot | robotgeek: OK, if you want to do the DocBook changes & send the diffs, that would be even faster | 10:20 |
| robotgeek | hmm, i'm just starting out on the guide . but yes, i'll ping back in here, i guesss | 10:20 |
| robotgeek | okie, there's only one error i found, well maybe 2 | 10:21 |
| robotgeek | oh well, i think that link is outdated | 10:22 |
| robotgeek | Madpilot: nvm, i think it's been fixed. sorry for the alarm | 10:22 |
| robotgeek | http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html is the correct url. | 10:23 |
| robotgeek | maybe someone should remove the draft copy at http://doc.ubuntu.com/generic/packagingguide/C/index.html . thanks, and sorry for the error | 10:24 |
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| robotgeek | rob1,Madpilot mailed the errors | 11:30 |
| rob1 | ok | 11:30 |
| robotgeek | i was trying to learn to package :) | 11:31 |
| robotgeek | rob1: thanks, cya around | 11:31 |
| rob1 | thats a good way to discover bugs in the docs :) | 11:31 |
| rob1 | cya | 11:31 |
| robotgeek | lol | 11:31 |
| mdke | LaserJock_, pong | 01:10 |
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| jsgotangco | hey all | 03:37 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | hi mate | 03:37 |
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| Belutz | jsgotangco, http://belutz.blogspot.com/2005/12/ubuntu-in-debian-conference-ii.html | 03:47 |
| jsgotangco | ahh!! | 03:54 |
| Belutz | ahh ?? | 03:55 |
| Belutz | by the way, miss philipines is very very pretty :D | 03:55 |
| jsgotangco | miss philippines of? | 04:03 |
| jsgotangco | well yeah we do have incrediby beautiful ladies over here | 04:03 |
| Belutz | hmm there's a miss world competition in TV right now, and miss philippines made it to semi final | 04:04 |
| jsgotangco | wow | 04:06 |
| Belutz | :) | 04:06 |
| Belutz | miss indonesia didn't make it | 04:06 |
| jsgotangco | Belutz: a few months ago, the philippines won Miss International in Japan... | 04:07 |
| Belutz | wow | 04:07 |
| Belutz | maybe i should move out to philippines :D | 04:07 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | lol | 04:07 |
| jsgotangco | Belutz: http://preciouslara.thequigamans.com/ | 04:08 |
| Belutz | wow | 04:08 |
| jsgotangco | i dunno why our country is so involved in beauty pageants :D | 04:09 |
| Belutz | hahaha | 04:10 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | need a break from documenting? ;) | 04:10 |
| Belutz | Kamping_Kaiser, lol | 04:10 |
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| Belutz | jsgotangco, she's very pretty | 04:12 |
| jsgotangco | hmmm | 04:12 |
| jsgotangco | oh i agree | 04:12 |
| Belutz | jsgotangco, i think it's in http://www.missworld.tv if i'm not mistaken | 04:12 |
| jsgotangco | http://www.missworld.tv/bio/bio.sps?iBiographyID=51619 | 04:13 |
| Belutz | yup, that's the one | 04:13 |
| Belutz | and miss korea :p | 04:14 |
| jsgotangco | i saw a lot of beautiful women in seoul | 04:14 |
| Belutz | wew | 04:14 |
| jsgotangco | Belutz: miss indonesia ain't bad either | 04:16 |
| Belutz | jsgotangco, yup | 04:16 |
| jsgotangco | actually the asia pacific group is stunning | 04:17 |
| jsgotangco | http://www.missworld.tv/contestants/asian.sps?iType=10599&icustompageid=15590 | 04:17 |
| Belutz | http://www.infoartis.com/Mariana_Renata/Mariana_Renata.htm <--- very pretty indonesian girl, she's in lux's soap advertising | 04:17 |
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| Belutz | i really like oriental looks :p | 04:18 |
| Belutz | Kamping_Kaiser, err.. we are documenting pretty asian girls... lol | 04:18 |
| jsgotangco | Belutz: most of our commercials are just passed on to each other in the Asean region... | 04:18 |
| jsgotangco | we also get thai advertisments... | 04:18 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | lol Belutz | 04:18 |
| Belutz | jsgotangco, i see | 04:19 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | *shrug* we get lumped with US and GB ads here in Australia. | 04:19 |
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| jsgotangco | Belutz: have you seen this http://gadgets.fosfor.se/the-top-10-weirdest-usb-drives-ever/ | 04:21 |
| jsgotangco | i bought the tempura style USB a few months ago | 04:21 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 04:21 |
| Belutz | yes, my friend bought a sushi USB | 04:22 |
| Belutz | hehehe | 04:22 |
| jsgotangco | http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000270051750/ | 04:22 |
| Belutz | one of each kind | 04:22 |
| jsgotangco | i've seen the dimsum usb before... | 04:23 |
| jsgotangco | i should have bought one | 04:23 |
| Belutz | http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000090038615/ <--- cool | 04:24 |
| jsgotangco | haha crazy japanese devices | 04:24 |
| Belutz | yup | 04:25 |
| Belutz | lol | 04:25 |
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| jsgotangco | see you guys later i have to wake up early | 04:45 |
| jsgotangco | :D | 04:46 |
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| jjesse | working on the typos that dholabach mentioned to mailing list i'll commit them | 06:44 |
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| mdke | jjesse, did you commit that already? | 07:47 |
| jjesse | mdke: no i didn't | 07:51 |
| mdke | ah k | 07:51 |
| jjesse | mdke: should i then? | 07:52 |
| mdke | jjesse, if you're done with it, yeah :) | 07:52 |
| jjesse | mdke: ok | 07:52 |
| jjesse | ok should be committed | 07:53 |
| mdke | thanks dude | 07:54 |
| jjesse | no problem i'm at work for 12 hours on a saturday upgrading to a new AS/400 | 07:54 |
| mdke | ouch | 07:55 |
| jjesse | so i'mm sitting here waiting for full system saves to finissh | 07:55 |
| mdke | commit hasn't come through yet :( | 07:55 |
| jjesse | hmm let me check | 07:57 |
| mdke | it's at 2200 right now | 07:57 |
| jjesse | Committed revision 2201. | 07:59 |
| mdke | thanks :) | 08:02 |
| jjesse | no problem, like i said, have lots of free time today :) | 08:04 |
| LaserJock | mdke: what is the difference between http://doc.ubuntu.com/generic/packagingguide/C/ and http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/ ? | 08:06 |
| jjesse | i would argue that gneric/ would be the one you would want to edit | 08:07 |
| LaserJock | but in the repo there is no ubuntu/packagingguide | 08:09 |
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| jjesse | LaserJock: it must have been moved to gneric/packagingguide and not removed from doc.ubuntu.com | 08:12 |
| jjesse | mdke: can you confirm that? | 08:13 |
| LaserJock | hmm, I thought it was always in generic but I could be wrong | 08:22 |
| jjesse | the svn repo is probablly more current LaserJock | 08:24 |
| LaserJock | oh well, I just noticed that somebody got confused about it | 08:24 |
| mdke | it is online at ubuntu/packaginguigde | 08:34 |
| mdke | but in the repo at generic/packagingguide | 08:34 |
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| mdke | LaserJock, ^^ | 08:34 |
| LaserJock | ok | 08:35 |
| LaserJock | how often is the ubuntu one updated? | 08:35 |
| mdke | each day | 08:36 |
| LaserJock | hmm, I haven't changed the packaging guide for a while but robotgeek said that they weren't the same | 08:37 |
| mdke | no, ok i've deleted the wrong one | 08:37 |
| LaserJock | which one is that? | 08:39 |
| mdke | it was online at generic/packagingguide by accident | 08:39 |
| LaserJock | ok | 08:39 |
| mdke | the correct one is the one linked on the homepage :) | 08:40 |
| LaserJock | k | 08:40 |
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