=== ubuntulog [n=ubuntulo@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Topic for #ubuntu-doc: Ubuntu Doc Team - general discussion - backlog at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs | Website http://doc.ubuntu.com | Projects on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocteamProjects | SVN - https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos | Please observe the Ubuntu community code of conduct @ http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct === Topic (#ubuntu-doc): set by Burgundavia at Tue Nov 8 03:35:03 2005 === #ubuntu-doc [freenode-info] If you're at a conference, please contact freenode staff to make sure we've made special allowance for many users coming into our network from a single internet address ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp ). Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked, except to network staff, services and participating registered users ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )... Thanks! [12:34] (mdke/#ubuntu-doc) bloody hell [12:34] (mdke/#ubuntu-doc) i don't envy the person who has to read that [12:35] mdke: can I get the svn branch you are working on? [12:35] sure it's branches/breezy [12:35] seems like basically everything is in the debdiff [12:37] LaserJock, I haven't committed any of the built package naturally [12:37] do i need to pass any flags to debdiff? [12:38] ok so did you do have the two .dsc files? [12:38] yes [12:39] so did you do debdiff first.dsc second.dsc ? [12:40] yeah [12:40] all hell broke loose [12:41] ok, just a sec, I'm building the breezy source package [12:41] the new one? [12:41] yes [12:41] cool [12:42] it will take a long time [12:43] doing the debdiff now [12:43] how did it build so fast? === rob1 pokes in [12:44] hiya rob1 [12:44] hi mdke [12:44] ok, so the debdiff is 11 [12:44] Mb [12:45] because of all the .svn [12:45] hmm [12:46] ahh [12:46] LaserJock, so how did you build it so quick? [12:46] just reading your email about the meeting mdke [12:47] sounds like a good idea [12:47] mdke: I'm just good ;-) [12:47] rob1, cool :) [12:47] mdke: what command did you use to build the source package? [12:47] LaserJock, debuild === rob1 has a week of work left before he gets really cracking on the guide [12:48] rob1, ah good i've timed it right then. When is good for the meeting? [12:48] hhmm, I used debuild also but I started it before I told you so maybe it was the same amount of time [12:48] LaserJock, did it build all the localised stuff? [12:48] what are you doing, guys ? [12:49] LaserJock, so I take it the breezy package wasn't built with all the .svn stuff then? [12:51] mdke, any time apart from 0400z onwards today [12:51] mdke: where there many revisions after the package (that is currently in breezy) was made? [12:51] LaserJock, none [12:52] to my knowledge [12:52] rob1, so not today [12:52] rob1, what day? [12:52] ok, then I think that the .svn's must have been removed [12:53] if its today, some time in the next four hours is good [12:53] rob1, me too [12:53] Madpilot, how about you? [12:53] can i do something to help ? [12:54] theCore, i think I will ask the same developer that took care of the breezy package to help === rob1 is now a freenode oper [12:55] mdke, ok [12:55] mdke: I think I got it [12:55] rob1, LaserJock cool [12:59] wazzup? [12:59] nah, i mean cool on freenode [12:59] oh yeah :0 [12:59] :) [01:05] mdke: I thought you were telling rob1 that I was cool j/k [01:05] heh [01:05] that too [01:05] especially if you can fix my package [01:08] well, I got rid of the .svn stuff so now the debdiff is 741k [01:08] hmm [01:08] but there is still a lot of differences [01:08] oh god, theres a crazy frog christmas song.. [01:08] LaserJock, which files? [01:09] it looks to be translation related [01:09] oh shit [01:09] i guess jeff built some new translations and didn't commit them [01:09] a german version of the faqguide? [01:09] LaserJock, the docs are translated, yeah :) [01:10] ok lemme try this package [01:11] http://doc.ubuntu.com/debs/breezy/ [01:11] if anyone wants to test [01:11] ok, I got 27 files changed [01:11] LaserJock, i'm not _that_ bothered because we were going to do translation update anyhow [01:12] i wanna see if it works [01:12] :) [01:12] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5568 [01:13] but does such a large debdiff make it less likely to get in breezy-updates? [01:13] hmm [01:14] i don't think so now [01:14] LaserJock, any idea what the changes to faqguide.css are? [01:14] LaserJock, depends on what is in the debdiff [01:14] LaserJock, raw text will not make it harder, IMHO [01:14] mdke: just a sec [01:14] also, gnome/Makefile worries me [01:15] so does libs/faqguide-html* [01:16] the only difference in faqguide.css is ".revhistory { font-size: 20%; }" [01:16] ah... [01:16] thanks [01:17] we don't ship the faqguide html anyway, so it doesn't matter === mdke remembers a few basic things [01:17] lol [01:18] in gnome/Makefile many of the changes are related to adding --xinclude to xsltproc [01:18] ok [01:18] no problem [01:18] i think actually none of those files are actually in the package [01:19] anyway, what I did to get the the debuild to work is I added -I.svn [01:19] ah cool thanks === mdke writes down [01:19] that will exclude all the .svn directories from being included in the .orig.tar.gz file [01:21] -i might work too [01:22] i've done this: [01:22] ubuntu-doc@hudson:~$ cat .devscripts [01:22] DEBUILD_DPKG_BUILDPACKAGE_OPTS="-I.bzr -I.svn" [01:24] I guess no dg meeting today? [01:25] rob1, i think it would probably be a bit short notice [01:25] i would be up for it, but I'd like a few more peeps [01:25] who do you want to be here for it? [01:25] Madpilot, whoever else [01:25] jjesse said he was interested [01:26] yeah, the kubuntu guys have been bugging for a copy of the dg, so the quicker we get this soughted out and done the better :) [01:26] yeah [01:28] jeez [01:28] the package is building all the localised html, even though we don't ship it [01:28] what a pain [01:28] i might cut it out [01:36] mdke, are you messing with the dg currently? [01:36] rob1, nope === rob1 fires up gedit [01:40] mdke: how long does it usually take to get commit access to the doc-team repo? [01:40] LaserJock, a decent time :( [01:40] ok [01:44] About Ubuntu -> What is Ubuntu looks like it was taken from Wikipedia (I got it from the UG though), should we ditch it? [01:45] we can rework it if necessary i think [01:45] maybe draw from the About Ubuntu doc [01:45] what a pita [01:46] if it overlaps with About Ubuntu, and we decide to ship About ubuntu, we can ditch it [01:46] I'd still like to keep something brief along those lines though in there [01:47] well, if we ship both, we can interlink them [01:52] i gotta go, cya all === lambert_ [n=todd@c-24-125-47-253.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [02:01] lambert === theCore [n=theCore@Toronto-HSE-ppp3786963.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Bonzodog [n=Bonzodog@unaffiliated/bonzodog] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-doc [02:16] kb, [02:17] aye sir [02:18] just replying, moving slow [02:18] ahh [02:18] Wasnt Todd Lambert a basketball player in America? [02:18] ?? not sure [02:18] ls [02:18] I only know jack lambert of the 70's steelers [02:18] ahh [02:21] https://launchpad.net/people/bonzodog01/ [02:21] I have signed it [02:23] hoot.... well done [02:24] lol [02:24] bout time bonz === theCore [n=theCore@Toronto-HSE-ppp3786963.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ubuntulog [n=ubuntulo@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Topic for #ubuntu-doc: Ubuntu Doc Team - general discussion - backlog at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs | Website http://doc.ubuntu.com | Projects on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocteamProjects | SVN - https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos | Please observe the Ubuntu community code of conduct @ http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct === Topic (#ubuntu-doc): set by Burgundavia at Tue Nov 8 03:35:03 2005 === #ubuntu-doc [freenode-info] If you're at a conference, please contact freenode staff to make sure we've made special allowance for many users coming into our network from a single internet address ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp ). Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked, except to network staff, services and participating registered users ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )... Thanks! === n1c0las [n=nicolas@nicolas.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Belutz [n=Belutz@ubuntu/member/belutz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Kamping_Kaiser [n=Kaiser@ppp207-221.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:27] #ubuntu has been attacked [03:28] happened in #launchpad earlier today [03:28] under control now [03:29] hey Madpilot [03:29] it was crazy [03:30] lol [03:30] I hate it when that happens [03:30] they determine who? [03:30] Madpilot, see my mail about a quick meeting on the desktopguide? [03:30] mdke: I did, haven't had time to respond yet [03:30] Madpilot, cool :) [03:31] Kingbahamut, not yet [03:31] my mail is lagging 10-24 hours behind [03:31] Kingbahamut, just script kiddies [03:31] setting -R or -r on the channel should do the trick === Madpilot [n=bburger@S0106000d88b9f3db.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:32] mdke: have signed the CoC tonight [03:33] Bonzodog, hello, glad to hear it [03:34] thanks :) [04:01] Bonzo: How does it feel to be an ubuntero? [04:01] it's good === Lewix [n=x@130.160.153.125] has joined #ubuntu-doc [04:02] It feels like I can really count myself in now to making a contribution === Lewix [n=x@130.160.153.125] has left #ubuntu-doc [] [04:20] lol [04:20] Bonz left [04:20] darn [04:21] kb, do you get my responses back? === LaserJock [n=mantha@lambda.chem.unr.edu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === lambert_ [n=todd@c-24-125-47-253.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Leaving"] === wjb [n=warren@c220-237-178-175.lowrp1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has left #ubuntu-doc [] [05:30] mdke: ping? === Kingbahamut [n=bahamut@c-24-98-229-28.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bshumate [n=bshumate@adsl-157-73-42.clt.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Kingbahamut [n=bahamut@c-24-98-229-28.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Judax [n=troy@adsl-209-30-131-130.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === rob1 [n=Robert@ubuntu/member/rob1] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Judax [n=kvirc@adsl-209-30-131-130.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-doc === zen-afk [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-doc === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-doc === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-doc === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-doc === robotgeek [n=robotgee@ppp-70-252-96-111.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:17] hi, i think the packaging guide here has a few error. it's in draft, so i tht i would let you guys know? [10:17] http://doc.ubuntu.com/generic/packagingguide/C/index.html [10:18] robotgeek: are you on the -doc mailing list? [10:18] Madpilot: no, [10:18] i can join up real quick,though [10:19] okay, an i just point out the errors, and you guys take care of it :) [10:19] given that it's dead here, you might be best to sent mail to the list pointing out the typos [10:19] i don't mind making changes to the source and submitting patches [10:19] I'll be back in the next 20 minutes or so [10:20] robotgeek: OK, if you want to do the DocBook changes & send the diffs, that would be even faster [10:20] hmm, i'm just starting out on the guide . but yes, i'll ping back in here, i guesss [10:21] okie, there's only one error i found, well maybe 2 [10:22] oh well, i think that link is outdated [10:22] Madpilot: nvm, i think it's been fixed. sorry for the alarm [10:23] http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html is the correct url. [10:24] maybe someone should remove the draft copy at http://doc.ubuntu.com/generic/packagingguide/C/index.html . thanks, and sorry for the error === rob1 is off to update his laptop to dapper to squash some apic bugs === rob^laptop [n=rob@dsl-202-52-55-156.qld.veridas.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === enrico [n=enrico@debian/developer/enrico] has joined #ubuntu-doc [11:30] rob1,Madpilot mailed the errors [11:30] ok [11:31] i was trying to learn to package :) [11:31] rob1: thanks, cya around [11:31] thats a good way to discover bugs in the docs :) [11:31] cya [11:31] lol [01:10] LaserJock_, pong === Bonzodog [n=Bonzodog@unaffiliated/bonzodog] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:37] hey all [03:37] hi mate === Belutz [n=Belutz@202.155.151.120] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:47] jsgotangco, http://belutz.blogspot.com/2005/12/ubuntu-in-debian-conference-ii.html [03:54] ahh!! [03:55] ahh ?? [03:55] by the way, miss philipines is very very pretty :D [04:03] miss philippines of? [04:03] well yeah we do have incrediby beautiful ladies over here [04:04] hmm there's a miss world competition in TV right now, and miss philippines made it to semi final [04:06] wow [04:06] :) [04:06] miss indonesia didn't make it [04:07] Belutz: a few months ago, the philippines won Miss International in Japan... [04:07] wow [04:07] maybe i should move out to philippines :D [04:07] lol [04:08] Belutz: http://preciouslara.thequigamans.com/ [04:08] wow [04:09] i dunno why our country is so involved in beauty pageants :D [04:10] hahaha [04:10] need a break from documenting? ;) [04:10] Kamping_Kaiser, lol === jsgotangco looks for philippines candidate for miss world [04:12] jsgotangco, she's very pretty [04:12] hmmm [04:12] oh i agree [04:12] jsgotangco, i think it's in http://www.missworld.tv if i'm not mistaken [04:13] http://www.missworld.tv/bio/bio.sps?iBiographyID=51619 [04:13] yup, that's the one [04:14] and miss korea :p [04:14] i saw a lot of beautiful women in seoul [04:14] wew [04:16] Belutz: miss indonesia ain't bad either [04:16] jsgotangco, yup [04:17] actually the asia pacific group is stunning [04:17] http://www.missworld.tv/contestants/asian.sps?iType=10599&icustompageid=15590 [04:17] http://www.infoartis.com/Mariana_Renata/Mariana_Renata.htm <--- very pretty indonesian girl, she's in lux's soap advertising === Kamping_Kaiser observes ubuntu-doc working overtime ;) [04:18] i really like oriental looks :p [04:18] Kamping_Kaiser, err.. we are documenting pretty asian girls... lol [04:18] Belutz: most of our commercials are just passed on to each other in the Asean region... [04:18] we also get thai advertisments... [04:18] lol Belutz [04:19] jsgotangco, i see [04:19] *shrug* we get lumped with US and GB ads here in Australia. === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.207.45.254] has joined #ubuntu-doc [04:21] Belutz: have you seen this http://gadgets.fosfor.se/the-top-10-weirdest-usb-drives-ever/ [04:21] i bought the tempura style USB a few months ago [04:21] heh [04:22] yes, my friend bought a sushi USB [04:22] hehehe [04:22] http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000270051750/ [04:22] one of each kind [04:23] i've seen the dimsum usb before... [04:23] i should have bought one [04:24] http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000090038615/ <--- cool [04:24] haha crazy japanese devices [04:25] yup [04:25] lol === teroedni [n=teroedni@ti411310a080-3247.bb.online.no] has joined #ubuntu-doc === theCore [n=theCore@Toronto-HSE-ppp3786963.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-doc [04:45] see you guys later i have to wake up early [04:46] :D === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-82-53.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Bonzodog [n=Bonzodog@unaffiliated/bonzodog] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:44] working on the typos that dholabach mentioned to mailing list i'll commit them === teroedni [n=teroedni@ti411310a080-3247.bb.online.no] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:47] jjesse, did you commit that already? [07:51] mdke: no i didn't [07:51] ah k [07:52] mdke: should i then? [07:52] jjesse, if you're done with it, yeah :) [07:52] mdke: ok [07:53] ok should be committed [07:54] thanks dude [07:54] no problem i'm at work for 12 hours on a saturday upgrading to a new AS/400 [07:55] ouch [07:55] so i'mm sitting here waiting for full system saves to finissh [07:55] commit hasn't come through yet :( [07:57] hmm let me check [07:57] it's at 2200 right now [07:59] Committed revision 2201. [08:02] thanks :) [08:04] no problem, like i said, have lots of free time today :) [08:06] mdke: what is the difference between http://doc.ubuntu.com/generic/packagingguide/C/ and http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/ ? [08:07] i would argue that gneric/ would be the one you would want to edit [08:09] but in the repo there is no ubuntu/packagingguide === Kingbahamut [n=bahamut@c-24-98-229-28.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:12] LaserJock: it must have been moved to gneric/packagingguide and not removed from doc.ubuntu.com [08:13] mdke: can you confirm that? [08:22] hmm, I thought it was always in generic but I could be wrong [08:24] the svn repo is probablly more current LaserJock [08:24] oh well, I just noticed that somebody got confused about it [08:34] it is online at ubuntu/packaginguigde [08:34] but in the repo at generic/packagingguide === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@cpe-69-205-38-37.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:34] LaserJock, ^^ [08:35] ok [08:35] how often is the ubuntu one updated? [08:36] each day [08:37] hmm, I haven't changed the packaging guide for a while but robotgeek said that they weren't the same [08:37] no, ok i've deleted the wrong one [08:39] which one is that? [08:39] it was online at generic/packagingguide by accident [08:39] ok [08:40] the correct one is the one linked on the homepage :) [08:40] k === manicka [n=grant@203-158-39-222.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@201-27-7-12.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-doc === n1c0las_ [n=nicolas@nicolas.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-doc === LaserJock [n=mantha@lambda.chem.unr.edu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Bonzodog [n=Bonzodog@unaffiliated/bonzodog] has joined #ubuntu-doc === wjb [n=warren@c220-237-178-175.lowrp1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Kingbahamut [n=bahamut@c-24-98-229-28.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === theCore [n=thecore@Toronto-HSE-ppp3786963.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-doc === theCore [n=thecore@Toronto-HSE-ppp3786963.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tlambert [n=todd@c-24-125-47-253.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc