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mhzheheh12:06
Nytryxheres something funny 12:07
Nytryxyou peaked my intrest with the ssh thing when i try to ssh into my suse box it does'nt seem to respond why might that be?12:08
Nytryxor even still it times out12:12
mhzmaybe you have no ssh running there?12:12
Nytryxmabey 12:13
Nytryxoh well ill fix that later on tonight 12:13
Nytryxim on the couch hehe relaxing and dont feel like moving hehe12:13
mhzno prob.12:14
Nytryxbut now i wonder what else i can do with ssh12:15
mhzwell, you can forward X (edubuntu LTSP does it)12:16
mhzyou can turn off the box12:16
Nytryxfoward x?12:16
mhzyou can actuall take control of the whole box12:16
mhzyup12:17
mhzrun a GUI application on the remote machine12:17
Nytryxok so if i sshed in and ran startx would it run on my screen or his?12:17
mhzsomething like that12:19
mhzyou have to use a different command line only12:19
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mhzI guess it's like ssh -X user@ip something12:20
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Lord_Athurhi12:50
Nytryxhey athur12:51
Lord_Athur:D hi Nytryx 12:51
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HuskerAceAnyone in channel?01:25
HuskerAceHello??????01:27
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bit16hi everyone05:20
irvinhello bit1605:21
bit16wht's new05:21
bit16I'VE a question, I could do a google search to get the answer but, what's the main difference between ubuntu and edubuntu?05:23
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skywaterHello. How is edubuntu is different from the original Ubuntu?10:38
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francoisbHello,03:49
Pygihello03:49
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spaceyhi there04:02
Pygihi04:03
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francoisbI'm still trying to use an ubuntu as ltsp server05:56
francoisbI've installed edubuntu-server05:57
francoisbbut my TX don't find tftp05:57
ogragrep tftp /etc/inetd.conf 05:58
francoisbIt seem that tftpd is not running05:58
francoisbI try05:58
francoisbtftp           dgram   udp     wait    root  /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd -s /var/lib/tftpboot05:59
francoisbIs this Ok?05:59
ograyup05:59
ogralooks fine 05:59
francoisbis the ltspcfg up to date?06:00
ogradoes  /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/ exost and contain the kernels ? 06:00
ograARGH06:00
ogradont toucht the ltsp-utils package at all06:00
ograltspadmin and ltspconfig are incompatible with our ltsp implementation06:01
francoisbI don't install it?06:01
ograthey break everything06:01
Yagisanogra: we need a conflicts on that package06:01
ograYagisan, the breezy ltsp package had a dependency bug... they get installed by default ...06:02
ogramatt missed that 06:02
francoisbSo I must unsinstall it and run ltspconfig06:02
ografrancoisb, no06:02
Yagisanogra: thats why we have breezy-updates :)06:02
ograif you touched any of ltspconfig or ltspadmin its broken ...06:02
ogranobody found a way to fix it yet06:02
ograYagisan, wont help if you already broke it06:03
francoisbCould I run a config script from edubuntu to get it ok?06:03
ografrancoisb, the only thing you have to run after installing edubuntu-server is sudo ltsp-build-lient 06:03
ogranope06:03
ograyou cant fix it06:04
ograsorry, sudo ltsp-build-client 06:04
francoisbI've made it, but I can make it again06:04
ogranope06:04
ograyour complete setup (even of the server ) was modified by the ltspadmin/config tools ... 06:05
ograYagisan, and a conflicts is the wrong attempt06:05
ograYagisan, Conflicts/Replaces etc dont apply to packages, only to contents of packages ...06:06
francoisbI can't unistall ltsp-utils, it'll get edubuntu-server away...06:06
ograas i said, there is a bug in the package, leave them where they are, just dont touch them, 06:06
ograif you already used one of the tools i know of no way to fix your server06:06
francoisbAnd doing again ltsp-build-client ?06:07
ograif you already used one of the tools it will break even more06:08
ograwhat did you do exactly ? 06:08
ograstep by step ? 06:08
francoisbI used ltspadmin06:08
francoisbltsp-buid-client06:09
ograugh06:09
francoisbltspcfg06:09
francoisbI saw tftp not running06:09
francoisbAnd wdmcp none06:09
ograwe dont use X transport (no xdmcp in ubuntu)06:10
Yagisanogra: just an idea to prevent future victims. I thought Conflicts would be appropriate here, as that package breaks another.06:10
Yagisananyway I should be in bed06:10
francoisbI undersatand but ltspcfg look at that06:10
ograyes, but it doesnt work 06:10
ograthese tools should get removed completely, they will even be dropped by ltsp.org in the near future, they switch to our implementation06:11
ograat least hey should be demoted to universe if someone wants to use the insecure variant out of historical reasons or something ...06:12
ografrancoisb, you could try to wipe the contents of /opt/ltsp/06:13
francoisbAnd then?06:13
ograas well as the contents of /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/06:13
ograthen try to rerun ltsp-build-client ... make sure tftpd-hpa is installed and edit the /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf file to your needs...06:14
francoisband again ltsp-build client?06:14
ograno idea if that works, my normal answer for such broken systems is a complete reinstall ... 06:14
francoisbI would preserve my /home...06:15
ograyou only build the client once ...06:15
ogramake sure the following packages are installed: tftpd-hpa, openssh-server and dhcp3-server06:16
ogra(they should be dependencys of ltsp-server-stadalone anyway)06:16
francoisbI try the cleaning and tell you.06:17
ograok06:17
francoisbbye06:17
ograciao06:18
ograYagisan, btw, i just see ltsp-client has a Replaces and a Conflicts on ltsp-utils in dapper06:25
Yagisanogra: really ?06:32
ograyup06:32
YagisanI never checked06:32
ograbut its still in main :/06:32
YagisanIMHO it should be queued for removal anyway06:33
Yagisaneven I have had issues with the old utils06:33
ograyes, but if people want ltsp 4.1 they should be able to use it ...06:34
ogrado universe is the right place ...06:34
ogras/do/so06:34
ograour ltsp id on the CD anyway 06:34
ograeven in ubuntu06:34
Yagisanisn't 4.1 obsolete now with the new method ?06:35
ograif you urgently want to use 4.1 you should be able to without having to use the tarball method06:36
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NavireSomeone use LTSP client boot floppy? No PXE.11:39
NavireI will using Ubuntu + LTSP (package  Official Web site LSTP, no package Ubuntu)  on Client Pentium 100 32MB, booting on floppy...11:41
NavireI think is slow.11:41
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