[12:06] <mhz> heheh
[12:07] <Nytryx> heres something funny 
[12:08] <Nytryx> you peaked my intrest with the ssh thing when i try to ssh into my suse box it does'nt seem to respond why might that be?
[12:12] <Nytryx> or even still it times out
[12:12] <mhz> maybe you have no ssh running there?
[12:13] <Nytryx> mabey 
[12:13] <Nytryx> oh well ill fix that later on tonight 
[12:13] <Nytryx> im on the couch hehe relaxing and dont feel like moving hehe
[12:14] <mhz> no prob.
[12:15] <Nytryx> but now i wonder what else i can do with ssh
[12:16] <mhz> well, you can forward X (edubuntu LTSP does it)
[12:16] <mhz> you can turn off the box
[12:16] <Nytryx> foward x?
[12:16] <mhz> you can actuall take control of the whole box
[12:17] <mhz> yup
[12:17] <mhz> run a GUI application on the remote machine
[12:17] <Nytryx> ok so if i sshed in and ran startx would it run on my screen or his?
[12:19] <mhz> something like that
[12:19] <mhz> you have to use a different command line only
[12:20] <mhz> I guess it's like ssh -X user@ip something
[12:50] <Lord_Athur> hi
[12:51] <Nytryx> hey athur
[12:51] <Lord_Athur> :D hi Nytryx 
[01:25] <HuskerAce> Anyone in channel?
[01:27] <HuskerAce> Hello??????
[05:20] <bit16> hi everyone
[05:21] <irvin> hello bit16
[05:21] <bit16> wht's new
[05:23] <bit16> I'VE a question, I could do a google search to get the answer but, what's the main difference between ubuntu and edubuntu?
[10:38] <skywater> Hello. How is edubuntu is different from the original Ubuntu?
[03:49] <francoisb> Hello,
[03:49] <Pygi> hello
[04:02] <spacey> hi there
[04:03] <Pygi> hi
[05:56] <francoisb> I'm still trying to use an ubuntu as ltsp server
[05:57] <francoisb> I've installed edubuntu-server
[05:57] <francoisb> but my TX don't find tftp
[05:58] <ogra> grep tftp /etc/inetd.conf 
[05:58] <francoisb> It seem that tftpd is not running
[05:58] <francoisb> I try
[05:59] <francoisb> tftp           dgram   udp     wait    root  /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd -s /var/lib/tftpboot
[05:59] <francoisb> Is this Ok?
[05:59] <ogra> yup
[05:59] <ogra> looks fine 
[06:00] <francoisb> is the ltspcfg up to date?
[06:00] <ogra> does  /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/ exost and contain the kernels ? 
[06:00] <ogra> ARGH
[06:00] <ogra> dont toucht the ltsp-utils package at all
[06:01] <ogra> ltspadmin and ltspconfig are incompatible with our ltsp implementation
[06:01] <francoisb> I don't install it?
[06:01] <ogra> they break everything
[06:01] <Yagisan> ogra: we need a conflicts on that package
[06:02] <ogra> Yagisan, the breezy ltsp package had a dependency bug... they get installed by default ...
[06:02] <ogra> matt missed that 
[06:02] <francoisb> So I must unsinstall it and run ltspconfig
[06:02] <ogra> francoisb, no
[06:02] <Yagisan> ogra: thats why we have breezy-updates :)
[06:02] <ogra> if you touched any of ltspconfig or ltspadmin its broken ...
[06:02] <ogra> nobody found a way to fix it yet
[06:03] <ogra> Yagisan, wont help if you already broke it
[06:03] <francoisb> Could I run a config script from edubuntu to get it ok?
[06:03] <ogra> francoisb, the only thing you have to run after installing edubuntu-server is sudo ltsp-build-lient 
[06:03] <ogra> nope
[06:04] <ogra> you cant fix it
[06:04] <ogra> sorry, sudo ltsp-build-client 
[06:04] <francoisb> I've made it, but I can make it again
[06:04] <ogra> nope
[06:05] <ogra> your complete setup (even of the server ) was modified by the ltspadmin/config tools ... 
[06:05] <ogra> Yagisan, and a conflicts is the wrong attempt
[06:06] <ogra> Yagisan, Conflicts/Replaces etc dont apply to packages, only to contents of packages ...
[06:06] <francoisb> I can't unistall ltsp-utils, it'll get edubuntu-server away...
[06:06] <ogra> as i said, there is a bug in the package, leave them where they are, just dont touch them, 
[06:06] <ogra> if you already used one of the tools i know of no way to fix your server
[06:07] <francoisb> And doing again ltsp-build-client ?
[06:08] <ogra> if you already used one of the tools it will break even more
[06:08] <ogra> what did you do exactly ? 
[06:08] <ogra> step by step ? 
[06:08] <francoisb> I used ltspadmin
[06:09] <francoisb> ltsp-buid-client
[06:09] <ogra> ugh
[06:09] <francoisb> ltspcfg
[06:09] <francoisb> I saw tftp not running
[06:09] <francoisb> And wdmcp none
[06:10] <ogra> we dont use X transport (no xdmcp in ubuntu)
[06:10] <Yagisan> ogra: just an idea to prevent future victims. I thought Conflicts would be appropriate here, as that package breaks another.
[06:10] <Yagisan> anyway I should be in bed
[06:10] <francoisb> I undersatand but ltspcfg look at that
[06:10] <ogra> yes, but it doesnt work 
[06:11] <ogra> these tools should get removed completely, they will even be dropped by ltsp.org in the near future, they switch to our implementation
[06:12] <ogra> at least hey should be demoted to universe if someone wants to use the insecure variant out of historical reasons or something ...
[06:13] <ogra> francoisb, you could try to wipe the contents of /opt/ltsp/
[06:13] <francoisb> And then?
[06:13] <ogra> as well as the contents of /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/
[06:14] <ogra> then try to rerun ltsp-build-client ... make sure tftpd-hpa is installed and edit the /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf file to your needs...
[06:14] <francoisb> and again ltsp-build client?
[06:14] <ogra> no idea if that works, my normal answer for such broken systems is a complete reinstall ... 
[06:15] <francoisb> I would preserve my /home...
[06:15] <ogra> you only build the client once ...
[06:16] <ogra> make sure the following packages are installed: tftpd-hpa, openssh-server and dhcp3-server
[06:16] <ogra> (they should be dependencys of ltsp-server-stadalone anyway)
[06:17] <francoisb> I try the cleaning and tell you.
[06:17] <ogra> ok
[06:17] <francoisb> bye
[06:18] <ogra> ciao
[06:25] <ogra> Yagisan, btw, i just see ltsp-client has a Replaces and a Conflicts on ltsp-utils in dapper
[06:32] <Yagisan> ogra: really ?
[06:32] <ogra> yup
[06:32] <Yagisan> I never checked
[06:32] <ogra> but its still in main :/
[06:33] <Yagisan> IMHO it should be queued for removal anyway
[06:33] <Yagisan> even I have had issues with the old utils
[06:34] <ogra> yes, but if people want ltsp 4.1 they should be able to use it ...
[06:34] <ogra> do universe is the right place ...
[06:34] <ogra> s/do/so
[06:34] <ogra> our ltsp id on the CD anyway 
[06:34] <ogra> even in ubuntu
[06:35] <Yagisan> isn't 4.1 obsolete now with the new method ?
[06:36] <ogra> if you urgently want to use 4.1 you should be able to without having to use the tarball method
[11:39] <Navire> Someone use LTSP client boot floppy? No PXE.
[11:41] <Navire> I will using Ubuntu + LTSP (package  Official Web site LSTP, no package Ubuntu)  on Client Pentium 100 32MB, booting on floppy...
[11:41] <Navire> I think is slow.