[12:06] heheh [12:07] heres something funny [12:08] you peaked my intrest with the ssh thing when i try to ssh into my suse box it does'nt seem to respond why might that be? [12:12] or even still it times out [12:12] maybe you have no ssh running there? [12:13] mabey [12:13] oh well ill fix that later on tonight [12:13] im on the couch hehe relaxing and dont feel like moving hehe [12:14] no prob. [12:15] but now i wonder what else i can do with ssh [12:16] well, you can forward X (edubuntu LTSP does it) [12:16] you can turn off the box [12:16] foward x? [12:16] you can actuall take control of the whole box [12:17] yup [12:17] run a GUI application on the remote machine [12:17] ok so if i sshed in and ran startx would it run on my screen or his? [12:19] something like that [12:19] you have to use a different command line only === mhz does not remember now [12:20] I guess it's like ssh -X user@ip something === Lord_Athur [n=Lord@pc-30-37-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [12:50] hi [12:51] hey athur [12:51] :D hi Nytryx === HuskerAce [n=HuskerAc@tconl8013.tconl.com] has joined #edubuntu [01:25] Anyone in channel? [01:27] Hello?????? === Nytryx [n=Nytryx@nc-71-52-152-29.dhcp.sprint-hsd.net] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu === \sh is now known as \sh_away === ealden [n=ealden@219.90.92.33] has joined #edubuntu === ealden [n=ealden@219.90.92.33] has joined #edubuntu === ealden [n=ealden@219.90.92.33] has joined #edubuntu === pitux_away is now known as pitux === pitux [n=pitux@85-180-222-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === irvin [n=irvin@125.212.73.46] has joined #edubuntu === bit16 [i=bit16_@200.90.138.139] has joined #edubuntu [05:20] hi everyone [05:21] hello bit16 [05:21] wht's new [05:23] I'VE a question, I could do a google search to get the answer but, what's the main difference between ubuntu and edubuntu? === bit16 [i=bit16_@200.90.138.139] has left #edubuntu [] === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #edubuntu === irvin [n=irvin@125.212.73.46] has joined #edubuntu === zakame [n=zak@210.213.78.140] has joined #edubuntu === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #edubuntu === irvin [n=irvin@125.212.73.46] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === skywater [n=chatzill@60.49.218.38] has joined #edubuntu [10:38] Hello. How is edubuntu is different from the original Ubuntu? === binti [n=bjorn@80.166.153.141] has joined #edubuntu === \sh_away is now known as \sh === aya [n=yann@cav13-3-82-234-224-217.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === aya [n=yann@cav13-3-82-234-224-217.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === freelove [n=yasser@59.93.243.144] has joined #edubuntu === \sh is now known as \sh_away === freelove [n=yasser@59.93.243.144] has joined #edubuntu === ulinskie [n=dsadsa@210.213.148.210] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=spacey@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #edubuntu === mpt [n=mpt@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #edubuntu === \sh_away is now known as \sh === Pygi [n=mario@83-131-247-130.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu === pitux [n=pitux@219-186-222-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === francoisb [n=francois@lns-bzn-43-82-249-184-36.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:49] Hello, [03:49] hello === pitux is now known as pitux_away [04:02] hi there [04:03] hi === ealden [n=ealden@219.90.93.105] has joined #edubuntu === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-87-69-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #edubuntu === jeang [n=jeang@dsl-165-148-148.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === jeang [n=jeang@dsl-165-148-148.telkomadsl.co.za] has left #edubuntu [] === JaneW [n=JaneW@dsl-146-129-50.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === arkan0x [n=arkanox@pc-133-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has joined #edubuntu === apokryphos [n=apokryph@host-87-74-3-163.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #edubuntu === francoisb [n=francois@lns-bzn-44-82-64-75-217.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@p5089D34A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu [05:56] I'm still trying to use an ubuntu as ltsp server [05:57] I've installed edubuntu-server [05:57] but my TX don't find tftp [05:58] grep tftp /etc/inetd.conf [05:58] It seem that tftpd is not running [05:58] I try [05:59] tftp dgram udp wait root /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd -s /var/lib/tftpboot [05:59] Is this Ok? [05:59] yup [05:59] looks fine [06:00] is the ltspcfg up to date? [06:00] does /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/ exost and contain the kernels ? [06:00] ARGH [06:00] dont toucht the ltsp-utils package at all [06:01] ltspadmin and ltspconfig are incompatible with our ltsp implementation [06:01] I don't install it? [06:01] they break everything [06:01] ogra: we need a conflicts on that package [06:02] Yagisan, the breezy ltsp package had a dependency bug... they get installed by default ... [06:02] matt missed that [06:02] So I must unsinstall it and run ltspconfig [06:02] francoisb, no [06:02] ogra: thats why we have breezy-updates :) [06:02] if you touched any of ltspconfig or ltspadmin its broken ... [06:02] nobody found a way to fix it yet [06:03] Yagisan, wont help if you already broke it [06:03] Could I run a config script from edubuntu to get it ok? [06:03] francoisb, the only thing you have to run after installing edubuntu-server is sudo ltsp-build-lient [06:03] nope [06:04] you cant fix it [06:04] sorry, sudo ltsp-build-client [06:04] I've made it, but I can make it again [06:04] nope [06:05] your complete setup (even of the server ) was modified by the ltspadmin/config tools ... [06:05] Yagisan, and a conflicts is the wrong attempt [06:06] Yagisan, Conflicts/Replaces etc dont apply to packages, only to contents of packages ... [06:06] I can't unistall ltsp-utils, it'll get edubuntu-server away... [06:06] as i said, there is a bug in the package, leave them where they are, just dont touch them, [06:06] if you already used one of the tools i know of no way to fix your server [06:07] And doing again ltsp-build-client ? [06:08] if you already used one of the tools it will break even more [06:08] what did you do exactly ? [06:08] step by step ? [06:08] I used ltspadmin [06:09] ltsp-buid-client [06:09] ugh [06:09] ltspcfg [06:09] I saw tftp not running [06:09] And wdmcp none [06:10] we dont use X transport (no xdmcp in ubuntu) [06:10] ogra: just an idea to prevent future victims. I thought Conflicts would be appropriate here, as that package breaks another. [06:10] anyway I should be in bed [06:10] I undersatand but ltspcfg look at that [06:10] yes, but it doesnt work [06:11] these tools should get removed completely, they will even be dropped by ltsp.org in the near future, they switch to our implementation [06:12] at least hey should be demoted to universe if someone wants to use the insecure variant out of historical reasons or something ... [06:13] francoisb, you could try to wipe the contents of /opt/ltsp/ [06:13] And then? [06:13] as well as the contents of /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/ [06:14] then try to rerun ltsp-build-client ... make sure tftpd-hpa is installed and edit the /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf file to your needs... [06:14] and again ltsp-build client? [06:14] no idea if that works, my normal answer for such broken systems is a complete reinstall ... [06:15] I would preserve my /home... [06:15] you only build the client once ... [06:16] make sure the following packages are installed: tftpd-hpa, openssh-server and dhcp3-server [06:16] (they should be dependencys of ltsp-server-stadalone anyway) [06:17] I try the cleaning and tell you. [06:17] ok [06:17] bye [06:18] ciao [06:25] Yagisan, btw, i just see ltsp-client has a Replaces and a Conflicts on ltsp-utils in dapper [06:32] ogra: really ? [06:32] yup [06:32] I never checked [06:32] but its still in main :/ [06:33] IMHO it should be queued for removal anyway [06:33] even I have had issues with the old utils [06:34] yes, but if people want ltsp 4.1 they should be able to use it ... [06:34] do universe is the right place ... [06:34] s/do/so [06:34] our ltsp id on the CD anyway [06:34] even in ubuntu [06:35] isn't 4.1 obsolete now with the new method ? 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