[12:41] trying to apt-get update from breezy to dapper and getting errors for debtags and adept [12:42] http://pastebin.com/458972 for me errors [12:43] jjesse: thats normal [12:43] debtags is still broken [12:43] Diablo-D3: ok, didn't know [12:43] everything else should be fine to use it then ? [12:43] yeah [12:43] debtags and adept is just for the kde apt-get frontend [12:43] the only thing else broke is some python thing no one uses [12:44] oh, and apt-get still doesnt understand that libakode replaces akode [12:44] cool, was just nervous === hunger [n=hunger@p54A62AAC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:44] afaik nothing else is broken === seth_k|lappy [n=seth@ubuntu/member/sethkinast] has joined #kubuntu-devel === seth_k|lappy [n=seth@ubuntu/member/sethkinast] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lamont [n=lamont@mix.mmjgroup.com] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Client] [03:30] flosoft: hi === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:36] if my sound card is not detected during install, how can i set it up? [04:48] jjesse, that's a question for #kubuntu or #ubuntu, not a -devel channel [04:48] doh was in the wrong channel sorry seth_k [04:48] no worries === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.25] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@gra86-1-82-239-88-236.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@gra86-1-82-239-88-236.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === author-psi [n=marcel@p50906BFC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@dialin-145-254-255-065.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pef [n=loic@ubuntu/member/pef] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:36] hellol [10:49] Riddell: is there a reason why kdmtheme is not available on ubuntu? === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpatrick [n=patrick@174.Red-83-37-101.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:45] Riddell: I think there's a new upstream release for Moodin === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pef is now known as pef_aw [01:17] konqueror crashes too otfen [01:17] konqueror crashes too often [01:27] hm [01:27] inwhat kind of aituations? [01:27] s === cmvo [n=cmvo@62.225.11.174] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:10] \sh & Riddell: requesting revu : http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1122 === hunger [n=hunger@p54A62AAC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OculusAquilae [n=bastian@p548D3418.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === author-psi [n=marcel@p509066AF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:51] someone can explain why on earth the version of adpept is 1.0ubuntu1? === mornfall gives away free plus signs === Tm_T is trying to install adept once again ;) [04:05] Riddell: ping... could you please try to ensure future adept versions have +ubuntuN appended, and either correspond to what is on ekhis.org experimental or debian, whichever is higher? [04:08] damned [04:08] debtags is still uninstallable [04:08] err [04:08] is not installable [04:08] :) === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["wth] === apokryphos [n=apokryph@host-87-74-3-163.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === author-psi [n=marcel@p509066AF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:26] <\sh> Riddell: ping [05:28] <\sh> Riddell: !ping i found what I needed [05:28] Me? ;) [05:42] ;) [05:43] hello author-psi [05:43] hi jpatrick === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:41] Riddell: http://lorien.mornfall.net:8012/m/adept-tags-easy.png [06:42] mornfall: what is adept? [06:42] flosoft: yep [06:42] flosoft: err, what, not is [06:43] flosoft: kubuntu's package manager :) [06:43] ow [06:43] no synaptic? [06:43] i like adept better ;-) [06:47] what is the difference? [06:59] what happened to kynaptic? [07:03] flosoft: kynaptic is obsolete [07:04] flosoft: it was never really maintained, sort of temporary solution [07:04] ah [07:04] and adept ... what is the advantage to synaptic? [07:04] flosoft: mornfall wrote Adept [07:05] :) [07:05] and Adept's pretty [07:05] <\sh> jpatrick: no..he asked what is the advantage :) [07:06] <\sh> jpatrick: adept is pretty much more then pretty..for me it's not usable...and it should be improved [07:06] true I prefer apt-get [07:07] \sh: feel free [07:07] <\sh> jpatrick: well...thinking like a plain user, there must be something more easier... [07:07] \sh: i don't have a monopoly [07:07] <\sh> something like "add application" :) [07:07] \sh: for me ... I really use the view over my packages [07:08] *loose [07:08] sorry [07:08] <\sh> mornfall: there is imho a spec about it..to improve adept :) [07:08] \sh: i'm working on it, but i assume you disagree with the plan [07:09] \sh: (considering you assert it's not usable) [07:10] <\sh> mornfall: there is a difference between "I use it but it's not that usable" or "it's not usable"...I think it's time to work with mpt on some things of ui style and usability [07:11] \sh: you said it wasn't usable for you [07:11] and who's mpt [07:11] <\sh> mornfall: yes...for me :) [07:11] <\sh> mornfall: canonicals UI and usability expert [07:11] eh [07:12] gnome-app-install huh? [07:12] <\sh> mornfall: na... [07:13] \sh: don't worry, i was contacted by openusability [07:16] <\sh> mornfall: I'm looking forward to see kde 4 in action...thinking about the work is the focus and not the mouse :) [07:17] i doubt kde will change much externally [07:17] well, too much [07:18] I wanna see Plasma [07:19] <\sh> well..anyways...I have to write my report about keybindings and the two desktops and the differences and difficulties to use gnome/kde with the keyboard === insanekane [n=kane@202.83.35.96] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:32] <\sh> Riddell: ping..what should we do with old admin dirs and your patch? I tried to apply it to knemo..but knemos cvs.sh doesn't know anything about extract-messages and replacing the old admin with the new admin dir doesn't work somehow...well I have to investigate === author-psi [n=marcel@p509066AF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === insanekane [n=kane@202.83.35.96] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apokryphos [n=apokryph@host-87-74-3-163.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Sime [n=konversa@ip54579d1b.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === haggai [n=halls@i-83-67-59-194.freedom2surf.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kozz [i=kozz@h203n1fls31o834.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pef_aw [n=loic@ubuntu/member/pef] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh [n=shermann@ubuntu/member/backslash-sh] has joined #kubuntu-devel === uniq [n=frode@213.184.199.55] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tm_T [i=tm_travo@xob.kapsi.fi] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lathiat [i=lathiat@ubuntu/member/lathiat] has joined #kubuntu-devel === sebas [i=sebas@belphegor.deadlysins.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === amu [i=amu@debian/developer/amu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Riddell [i=jr@kde/jriddell] has joined #kubuntu-devel === je4d [n=jeff@demantoid.trinhall.cam.ac.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mornfall [n=mornfall@kde/developer/mornfall] has joined #kubuntu-devel === seaLne [n=sealne@obelisk.wasters.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === #kubuntu-devel [freenode-info] If you're at a conference, please contact freenode staff to make sure we've made special allowance for many users coming into our network from a single internet address ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp ). Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked, except to network staff, services and participating registered users ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )... Thanks! === insanekane [n=kane@202.83.35.96] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Diablo-D3 [i=diablod3@pool-71-241-202-39.port.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === seth_k|lappy [n=seth@ubuntu/member/sethkinast] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:21] \sh: if the admin dir is too old not to have extract-messages and it's only knemo I wouldn't bother [10:22] <\sh> Riddell: well.I think we have more of them... [10:22] <\sh> Riddell: I tried to replace it..but it doesn't work out properly === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel