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lukacugood night01:06
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klepaswhat a dreary afternoon07:17
artnaygood morning :)08:20
artnayhey, any new ideas concerning wiki pages?09:50
artnaywhat if /*buntuArtwork would be just one long page without subcategory links? we could split sections using headings and place links directly to projects. that way it wouldn't be a link mess09:52
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artnayhi lukacu 09:53
artnaylet me repeat myself:09:53
artnaywhat if /*buntuArtwork would be just one long page without subcategory links? we could split sections using headings and place links directly to projects. that way it wouldn't be a link mess09:53
artnayif /*buntuArtwork would consist of Projects, Resources and Guides, it wouldn't be too hard to split it that way09:54
lukacuhello artnay09:55
artnaybut if it gets any bigger than that, /*buntuArtwork should use subcategory links and short summaries09:55
artnaywhat do you think?09:56
artnayit would be about time to renew the wiki :)09:56
lukacuthat is what i had in mind yesterday... but i was not very clear about it i know09:57
artnay /Artwork = links to UbuntuArtwork, KubuntuArtwork, EdubuntuArtwork, XubuntuArtwork, FAQ, Licensing, Contact09:57
artnayin order of appearance09:58
artnaylukacu: why? what's on your mind?09:58
lukacusubtitles and that :)09:59
artnayare you translating something?09:59
lukacutranslating what?10:00
artnaysome subtitles? :)10:00
artnaynevermind, I guess you meant wiki subtitles10:01
lukacuyes :)10:01
artnaylukacu: more specific titles?10:02
artnaythat's what I've been thinking, and the structure of /*buntuArtwork pages10:02
artnaybut what should be done with older projects? it would be nice to have some history as well so we could learn from past10:03
artnayGoals for Breezy, Goals for Dapper (when we're at Dapper+1)10:04
lukacui think titles listed above are just fine ... projects, resources, guides etc.10:04
lukacuwe can have section "past projects"? :)10:04
artnaysure, why not. let's just dump them somewhere :)10:04
klepassounds like a good idea10:05
klepasbut it would become quite a lengthy page...10:05
lukacuit that case we can still split it10:06
artnayso instead of a long page, should we use just a few links to subcategories at /*buntuArtwork pages?10:06
klepasyea, sounds alrighty10:07
klepas-y10:07
artnaytype wiki ubuntu into fx, type artwork into search box, end up to /Artwork, click UbuntuArtwork, click Projects, click the desired project10:07
lukacui am more of a long-page-guy ... but no problem :)10:07
artnayisn't that a way too, umh, difficult way?10:07
klepasone long page is fine10:08
klepasbut you might want to talk to the edubuntu/xubuntu/kubunut art people then too10:08
artnayof course, they might have some great ideas10:08
artnaythat we're missing here10:08
lukacuyup ... more people10:09
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artnayhow do we contact them? they don't have an IRC channel10:09
artnayshould we invite them here?10:09
artnayor should we just have the meeting that we've been planning for last two or three months? :)10:09
lukacu:D10:09
lukacui it like some kind of master plan to conquer the world ;)10:10
lukacus/it/is10:10
klepasi think dropping off a message for a few days to the kubuntu-users mailing list ought to do for the kubuntu people10:11
klepasorganise a massive general k/ed/x/ubuntu artwork IRC meeting10:12
klepasand discuss this10:12
klepaswe can write up an agenda10:12
artnayhttps://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team10:12
klepasand get this over with10:12
klepasyea, but there aren't many people part of that team10:12
klepasaddressing the kubuntu ML would be better10:13
klepasand we could get other people interested too :)10:13
artnaythat's why we need /ArtworkContact page or something10:13
klepascheck the ArtTeam page10:13
klepasI added a contact and joining section10:14
artnayyou know what's wrong with that? it's full of data that the user isn't looking for10:14
artnayit doesn't separate people by projects10:14
artnayit should say clearly who are participating to Ubuntu, Kubuntu etc.10:15
artnayso yes, there's some info we could use when we build the contact page10:15
lukacuhow about having a PR guy :)10:17
artnaynow we should find (or know) who are members of non-Ubuntu projects and then contact them10:17
artnaybecause that page doesn't state that clearly10:17
klepasbut generally we agree that a lage page of /Artwork would be good10:18
artnayit would be just the main page and has to bee minimalistic10:18
artnayit would contain links to /*buntuArtwork pages that might be built as we've planned10:18
klepaswhich has various sub-pages (this is possible, no?) which address various other areas of the Artwork, such as the different types (k/edu/x/ubuntu)10:19
artnayhmm10:19
artnaylukacu: are you volunteering? :D10:20
lukaculol10:20
klepasI'm happy to help out10:20
artnay"me too" :>10:21
artnaybrb, I have to smoke a ciggie10:21
lukacui will help (but not with the pr thing if you had that in mind ;) )10:21
lukacui ll be back in an hour or so ... bye10:22
klepaslukacu: bye :)10:23
artnaymhz is already unifying the artwork syntax 10:25
artnayklepas: oh, so probably already read that as you're online 24/7 :>10:26
artnays/so/you, typos here, there and everywhere10:27
artnayso how should we deal with dupe pages? for example UsplashArtwork would be used in every project but only with different splash screens10:29
klepasmake one page for them all10:29
klepasfor stuff like that10:30
klepasor /KubuntuUsplashArtwork10:30
klepasfor example10:30
klepasartnay: yea, i'm online 24/7 :P10:30
artnayand that would include a link to all Usplash pages10:30
klepashttp://wombat.nuxified.com/node/10110:30
artnaylinks10:30
klepas:)10:30
artnayit's broken10:33
artnayyou're restaring the daemon or what? I can't connect atm :|10:33
klepashuh?10:34
artnayFirefox can't establish a connection to the server at wombat.nuxified.com.10:35
artnaynow it's working although SQL is broken10:36
klepasdamnit10:36
klepasusing Firefox?10:36
artnayyep10:36
klepaswhy not Konqueror?10:36
klepastry again now, btw10:37
artnaybecause I'm at work and using win XP10:37
klepasah, rightio10:37
artnaywell I do use FX on every computer10:37
klepasSQL connection is being shitty10:37
artnayone word: extensions10:37
artnayit's only the about page that has DB problems10:39
klepasjust reload a few times10:39
klepasi know, the server and SQL have been annoying me today10:39
klepasnot my fault though10:39
artnaycool, it's working10:40
artnayno, /101 isn't working :|10:41
klepas=\10:44
klepastry again in 5 or so minutes10:44
artnaysure, just let us know when you're ready10:44
klepasi'm not going to touch it10:45
klepasi don't have access to the CPanel.10:45
klepascan't even make an SQL dump10:45
klepasso i'll let it fix itself or let the admin see it and fix it10:46
klepass/admin/host10:46
artnayok, it doesn't work. what's in there? :o10:53
klepasloads for me11:16
artnayAccess denied11:17
artnayYou are not authorized to access this page.11:17
artnayand lots of SQL errors11:17
klepasit's happened before11:43
klepasand it fixed itself11:43
klepasnothing i can do, even if i wanted to because i don't have access11:43
lukacuim back :)11:44
artnayno problem. if it's necessary information, you could always tell it here11:44
artnayinstead of blogging it :)11:44
klepasyea11:45
klepasbasically i wanted to show a screenshot11:45
klepaswhich is independent of the DB11:45
klepasso here's the link11:45
klepasbtw, it seems to be working11:45
klepasthe actuall site11:46
klepashttp://wombat.nuxified.com/gallery/file/Screenshots/2005-12-09-uptime.png11:46
artnaywhy doesn't XP have a world clock, dammit... what time would it be in chile?11:46
artnaygmt -8?11:46
artnayklepas: are you able to change the geometry of yakuake in KDE 3.5?11:46
artnayyakuake --geometry blabla11:47
klepaswhat's the capital of Chile11:47
klepasyea, iirc11:47
artnaysantiago11:47
klepasin Santiago, it's 07:48 right now11:48
artnayumh, I must have messed up something with the compilation then11:48
artnaylet's just hope that there's no long queues so mhz could make it here :)11:49
klepas:)11:49
klepaswhat icon set do you use for KDE?11:50
klepasi can't seem to find a complete/near to complete good one... =[11:50
artnayare you serious? a heavy mix of human, humility, nuove xt, vista look-a-like11:51
klepasnuove xt isn't complete enough11:52
klepasand the K icon looks like trash, imho11:52
artnayklepas: where does yakuake store its config data?11:52
klepas~/.kde/share/config/yakuakerc11:53
artnayklepas: I haven't found so good icon set that I wouldn't have modified it11:53
artnayoh yeah, how could I forgot tango...11:53
klepasTango sucked last time i tried it11:53
klepaswhich was 0.5.111:53
klepasiirc11:53
klepasIt wouldn't create icons for my small panels11:54
klepasall PNGs were all 48x and up.11:54
klepasMy panel uses 32x11:54
artnayhey, when you set the geometry information, what does it write to yakuakerc?11:54
klepasi'll post my config to one-on-one11:55
artnayklepas: yeah, but take the best parts of CC-SA 2.5 sets, tweak them and combine :)11:55
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artnayhi guys03:36
artnaymhz: you were unifying syntax, how?03:36
artnaymhz: and have you voted already? :)03:36
mhzartnay: moin03:37
omegVoted?03:37
mhznot voted yet (about 28 C degrees.. too hot)03:37
mhzomeg: Chilean elections for president 2day03:38
mhzartnay: unifiying sytax... nope. Using moin syntax to give pages a better look03:38
artnayah, ok.03:38
omegAh03:39
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klepasi'm off06:02
klepascheers all06:02
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AndyFitzsomeone has to package synfig!!!!  .  I'm going to #motu10:43
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