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| mdke | hey there Judax :) | 12:34 |
|---|---|---|
| Judax | HIya | 12:34 |
| Judax | or...Hiya | 12:34 |
| mdke | whichever you prefer | 12:36 |
| mdke | how's it going? | 12:36 |
| Judax | not too bad, how about yourself | 12:36 |
| rob1 | hi mdke | 12:37 |
| mdke | good thanks, hi rob1 | 12:37 |
| === rob1 is updating to dapper on his laaptop | ||
| jjesse | dapper kubuntu i'm getting erros so be careful rob1 | 12:39 |
| mdke | cool | 12:39 |
| Judax | just got 2 mac mini's and put kubuntu on one and gentoo on the other | 12:39 |
| rob1 | trying to squash a bug | 12:40 |
| rob1 | thats my main reason for it | 12:40 |
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| === mdke 's computer suffers as he forces it to build translated xml | ||
| jjesse | good luck with that :) | 01:02 |
| mdke | yeah my laptop really struggles with it ;) | 01:03 |
| jjesse | mdke: remember when i mentioned i wsa doing that migration, still at it :( | 01:03 |
| mdke | ouch | 01:03 |
| jjesse | just started the system restore, should be 4 more hours :( | 01:04 |
| mdke | blimey | 01:04 |
| mdke | hope they pay you extra | 01:04 |
| jjesse | the whole day is overtime | 01:04 |
| mdke | good | 01:04 |
| jjesse | time and a half :) | 01:05 |
| jjesse | but the good thing is the satilitte tv connections come into the server room, so i just bring in a tv and hook it up | 01:05 |
| mdke | ah nice | 01:05 |
| mdke | fucking rosetta pisses me off | 01:05 |
| mdke | so many bugs | 01:06 |
| jjesse | so on that bug, should i update to refrence it will be fixed in the serverguide or just leave it as is? | 01:06 |
| mdke | not sure | 01:07 |
| mdke | i didn't really read the bit it related to | 01:07 |
| === mdke edits the finnish translation of the faqguide by hand to make it work | ||
| === LaserJock is unfortunately unilingual. Darn US school system ;-) | ||
| jjesse | grin so am i :) | 01:12 |
| mdke | i don't speak much finnish either | 01:13 |
| mdke | nor portughese, romanian or serbian | 01:13 |
| mdke | all of which have errors :( | 01:13 |
| mdke | stupid rosetta >_< | 01:13 |
| Judax | mdke: sounds to me like YOU are rosetta | 01:18 |
| mdke | mm? | 01:19 |
| Kaiser_Sleeps | `svn up` is the command to bring a svn repostiry up to date isnt it? | 01:28 |
| mdke | yeah | 01:28 |
| Kaiser_Sleeps | thanks | 01:28 |
| rob^laptop | dang, my laptop still has the bug | 01:30 |
| rob^laptop | even with dapper | 01:30 |
| mdke | hey LaserJock, you around? | 01:30 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 01:31 |
| mdke | LaserJock, just a small thing, any idea what this is: | 01:31 |
| mdke | Now signing changes and any dsc files... signfile ubuntu-docs_5.10-7.dsc Matthew East <mdke@ubuntu.com> | 01:31 |
| mdke | gpg: skipped "Matthew East <mdke@ubuntu.com>": secret key not available | 01:31 |
| mdke | gpg: [stdin] : clearsign failed: secret key not available | 01:31 |
| theCore | mdke, i got the same error | 01:32 |
| mdke | from -docs? | 01:32 |
| LaserJock | sure looks like your gpg key isn't working | 01:32 |
| theCore | mdke, it's something related to the key-agent | 01:32 |
| mdke | ah | 01:32 |
| mdke | i don't have a gpg agent afaik | 01:33 |
| mdke | who would know about this stuff? | 01:33 |
| theCore | mdke, there is another way to sign your package | 01:33 |
| mdke | i'd like the devscript to work tho :( | 01:33 |
| theCore | mdke, just give a few second to find it | 01:34 |
| LaserJock | ok do you export DEBFULLNAME and DEBEMAIL somewhere? | 01:34 |
| mdke | not to my knowledge | 01:34 |
| LaserJock | i have it in .bashrc | 01:35 |
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| mdke | is .devscripts enough? | 01:35 |
| LaserJock | yeah, if it is in there | 01:35 |
| mdke | no | 01:35 |
| mdke | what do i put in there? | 01:35 |
| LaserJock | well, I don't have a .devscripts but you should be able to just put the name and email address that is in your gpg key | 01:36 |
| mdke | ok i'll try | 01:36 |
| mdke | heh | 01:37 |
| mdke | my debdiff is 8 meg | 01:37 |
| LaserJock | oh man | 01:37 |
| mdke | it's fine tho | 01:37 |
| mdke | all translations | 01:37 |
| LaserJock | right | 01:37 |
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| LaserJock | where those rosetta translations | 01:38 |
| mdke | eh? | 01:38 |
| LaserJock | are the translations done by rosetta | 01:38 |
| mdke | yes | 01:38 |
| mdke | i have done the faqguide, need to do the aboutubuntu translations now | 01:39 |
| mdke | so the debdiff will go up even further :) | 01:39 |
| LaserJock | will the docs ever be split up into different languages? | 01:39 |
| mdke | in what way? | 01:39 |
| mdke | oh the packages | 01:39 |
| LaserJock | like ubuntu-docs-de, ubuntu-docs-en etc | 01:39 |
| mdke | not sure | 01:39 |
| mdke | it would be a decent idea i guess | 01:39 |
| LaserJock | yeah, at package time | 01:40 |
| LaserJock | seems like these .debs are pretty big | 01:40 |
| mdke | yeah they are | 01:40 |
| mdke | ideally, they'd be in language-packs but i think it will be too difficult | 01:40 |
| mdke | LaserJock, it's still not signing the package | 01:42 |
| LaserJock | mdke: so do you have gpg set up? | 01:42 |
| mdke | as far as I know... | 01:43 |
| LaserJock | mdke: if you do gpg --list-keys do you find your key? | 01:43 |
| mdke | i use it for email | 01:43 |
| LaserJock | ok | 01:43 |
| mdke | the primary uid is not that email address tho, that doesn't matter right? | 01:44 |
| theCore | mdke, sign your package manualy | 01:44 |
| LaserJock | mdke: but mdke@ubuntu.com is in the list for your key? | 01:45 |
| mdke | yep | 01:45 |
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| LaserJock | mdke: I'm honestly not very good with gpg. -motu might know | 01:46 |
| mdke | ok | 01:47 |
| mdke | it's not a bad error tho right? | 01:47 |
| LaserJock | mdke: the "secret key not available" part is wierd | 01:48 |
| mdke | hmm | 01:48 |
| LaserJock | mdke: It doesn't prevent you from making the package | 01:48 |
| LaserJock | mdke: You just haven't signed it | 01:48 |
| mdke | no | 01:48 |
| theCore | mdke, install sea-horse, it will solve the problem | 01:49 |
| LaserJock | most of the guys in -motu or -devel would know much more than me | 01:49 |
| mdke | seahorse is a gui frontend for gpg isn't it? | 01:49 |
| theCore | mdke, it's also a gpg agent | 01:49 |
| LaserJock | seahorse is good, gpa is also | 01:50 |
| mdke | well gnome has a gpg agent doesn't it? | 01:50 |
| mdke | built in? | 01:50 |
| theCore | mdke, nope | 01:50 |
| mdke | how about gnome-gpg - GPG passphrase agent based on GNOME Keyring | 01:51 |
| mdke | is that good? | 01:51 |
| theCore | mdke, but sea-horse work extremely in gnome, it has even gpg plugin in gedit | 01:51 |
| theCore | mdke, i don't know | 01:51 |
| theCore | mdke, btw, sea-horse is the default agent for ubuntu | 01:52 |
| mdke | ok | 01:53 |
| theCore | mkde, ha , i found it | 01:53 |
| theCore | dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -kSOMEKEY | 01:54 |
| mdke | i'm using debuild | 01:54 |
| theCore | :( | 01:54 |
| mdke | i'll ask around | 01:54 |
| theCore | ok | 01:54 |
| === mdke is working on getting an ENORMOUS debdiff | ||
| mdke | i've just found another 5 new translations to install | 01:55 |
| mdke | -> bed | 01:58 |
| LaserJock | mdke: usually you can pass the same arguments to debuild as you would to dpkg-buildpackage | 01:58 |
| mdke | ah ok | 01:58 |
| LaserJock | debuild is just a wrapper around dpkg-buildpackage | 01:58 |
| mdke | so there must be something I can stick into .devscripts | 01:58 |
| mdke | do I give it the keynumber? | 01:59 |
| mdke | or a uid? | 01:59 |
| mdke | i'll try the number | 02:00 |
| mdke | night all | 02:00 |
| LaserJock | mdke I'm not sure | 02:00 |
| LaserJock | good night | 02:00 |
| theCore | ciao! | 02:00 |
| LaserJock | mdke: you can also use -us -uc to not sign anything until you really need to | 02:04 |
| mdke | -k# has worked :) | 02:16 |
| mdke | it asks me for my passphrase at the relevant time | 02:16 |
| mdke | thanks theCore ! | 02:16 |
| mdke | and LaserJock :) | 02:16 |
| theCore | mdke, np | 02:16 |
| mdke | 8.6Mdebdiff.txt | 02:17 |
| mdke | that's the end I think | 02:17 |
| mdke | i've done everything | 02:17 |
| LaserJock | cool | 02:19 |
| mdke | i'll upload everything to the doc server | 02:20 |
| mdke | it will take blooming ages tho | 02:20 |
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| Kingbahamut | blooming.....theres a term ive narry heard in years | 03:19 |
| Kingbahamut | people in america dont use | 03:19 |
| Kingbahamut | it | 03:19 |
| LaserJock | only if we are watching British tv ;-) | 03:25 |
| Kingbahamut | lol | 03:26 |
| Kingbahamut | Scot here, I have so little taste for the Brit subculture LJ | 03:26 |
| Kingbahamut | =) | 03:26 |
| Kingbahamut | but mdke is a good guy regardless | 03:26 |
| LaserJock | hmm, haven't heard narry for a while either | 03:27 |
| Kingbahamut | lol | 03:27 |
| Kingbahamut | Stopped using it when I came to America | 03:27 |
| === LaserJock needs to start watching some Monty Python ;-) | ||
| Kingbahamut | Why thats the most vicious and cruel tempered rodent yer ever set eyes on | 03:28 |
| LaserJock | lol | 03:29 |
| Kingbahamut | I am Tim | 03:29 |
| Kingbahamut | Tim the Enchanter | 03:29 |
| Kingbahamut | First must thou remove the holy pin | 03:30 |
| Kingbahamut | then shall thou count to three | 03:30 |
| Kingbahamut | no more | 03:30 |
| Kingbahamut | no less | 03:30 |
| Kingbahamut | three is the number thou shall count | 03:30 |
| Kingbahamut | and the counting of the number shall be three | 03:30 |
| LaserJock | 5 is right out | 03:30 |
| Kingbahamut | 4 shall thou not count | 03:30 |
| Kingbahamut | nor 2 | 03:30 |
| Kingbahamut | 5 is right out | 03:30 |
| Kingbahamut | One Three, the 3rd number be reached | 03:30 |
| LaserJock | man, I am going to laugh all night now | 03:32 |
| LaserJock | I love that movie | 03:33 |
| Kingbahamut | lol | 03:33 |
| Kingbahamut | so do I | 03:33 |
| LaserJock | the cool thing is you just say one thing and a whole flood of laughs start | 03:33 |
| Kingbahamut | lol | 03:34 |
| Kingbahamut | no kidding | 03:34 |
| Kingbahamut | So if she weighs as much as a duck | 03:34 |
| LaserJock | BURN HER!! | 03:35 |
| LaserJock | She turn me into a newt | 03:36 |
| Kingbahamut | it got better | 03:36 |
| LaserJock | Well, I got better | 03:36 |
| Kingbahamut | well we did do the nose | 03:36 |
| Kingbahamut | and the hat | 03:36 |
| Kingbahamut | but she has got a wart | 03:36 |
| Kingbahamut | No no , I want to go in and face the peril | 03:36 |
| Kingbahamut | no | 03:36 |
| Kingbahamut | the peril is too perilous | 03:37 |
| Kingbahamut | I bet your gay | 03:37 |
| LaserJock | just a little peril? | 03:37 |
| Kingbahamut | LJ I like you already | 03:37 |
| Kingbahamut | =) | 03:37 |
| LaserJock | You sound ok too | 03:37 |
| Kingbahamut | lol | 03:37 |
| Kingbahamut | yeah | 03:37 |
| Kingbahamut | I try | 03:37 |
| Kingbahamut | despite what they say about me | 03:37 |
| LaserJock | I haven't heard anything bad, yet ;-) | 03:39 |
| Kingbahamut | geeze | 03:40 |
| Kingbahamut | how is that possible | 03:40 |
| Kingbahamut | lol | 03:40 |
| LaserJock | well, so far I have stayed in -motu mostly | 03:41 |
| Kingbahamut | I think for a while | 03:41 |
| Kingbahamut | I was the most hated of all on the forums | 03:41 |
| LaserJock | that's not fun :( | 03:42 |
| LaserJock | nobody likes to be hated | 03:42 |
| Kingbahamut | I get used to it | 03:42 |
| Kingbahamut | I have an opinion | 03:42 |
| Kingbahamut | and if others dont like it | 03:42 |
| Kingbahamut | theyll get over it | 03:42 |
| Kingbahamut | <----seriously and militantly anti windows | 03:42 |
| LaserJock | was that ^^ a problem? | 03:43 |
| Kingbahamut | for a number of people yes | 03:43 |
| Kingbahamut | I honestly see no reason for any user | 03:43 |
| Kingbahamut | to have to use it | 03:43 |
| Kingbahamut | I dont | 03:43 |
| Kingbahamut | why should someone else | 03:44 |
| LaserJock | well, I am trying to get Ubuntu into university research | 03:44 |
| LaserJock | it is amazing how many research groups use windows | 03:44 |
| Kingbahamut | BioInformatics | 03:44 |
| Kingbahamut | I have a friend over at UGA and another at GAtech | 03:45 |
| Kingbahamut | that are both interested in builds of Ubuntu | 03:45 |
| LaserJock | I am lucky, my advisor couldn't use windows even if he wanted to | 03:45 |
| Kingbahamut | that can satisfy those needs | 03:45 |
| LaserJock | I want to use just regular Ubuntu | 03:45 |
| Kingbahamut | for computational analysis | 03:45 |
| LaserJock | not necessarily for computational research | 03:45 |
| Kingbahamut | I dont think that windows can beat it | 03:45 |
| Kingbahamut | but thats just an opinion | 03:45 |
| Kingbahamut | plus clustering is much cheaper that Mainframing | 03:46 |
| Kingbahamut | that alone appeals to many uni's | 03:46 |
| LaserJock | but for just regular scientific research | 03:46 |
| Kingbahamut | windows still cant beat a decent nix/ubuntu build | 03:46 |
| LaserJock | well, many people will use linux for clusters and such but not for their regular machines | 03:46 |
| Kingbahamut | thats a barrier that needs to be broken | 03:46 |
| theCore | my dad is a pro-windows guys, you should see is set of "reparing tools", i can't stop laughing at him | 03:46 |
| LaserJock | that is why I started the MOTU Science team | 03:47 |
| LaserJock | many scientists only see linux as something to run on a cluster for computational/theoretical research | 03:48 |
| LaserJock | I use it for data aquisition and publication preperation | 03:49 |
| LaserJock | presentations, everything | 03:49 |
| theCore | linux is simply great for anything | 03:49 |
| theCore | and it's free | 03:49 |
| Kingbahamut | I aggree theCore | 03:49 |
| LaserJock | research groups spend well over $1000 per comp for data aquisition software | 03:49 |
| Kingbahamut | but to some free isnt nessecary aggreeable | 03:50 |
| Kingbahamut | unnessecarily so LJ | 03:50 |
| LaserJock | kinda, linux is just getting to where it is comperable | 03:50 |
| LaserJock | I write my own data aquisition programs, but there are starting to be more and more OSS alternatives | 03:51 |
| theCore | LabVIEW is good | 03:52 |
| LaserJock | yeah, that is what I am talking about | 03:53 |
| LaserJock | my boss says that LabVIEW is the devil | 03:53 |
| theCore | lol | 03:53 |
| LaserJock | so that means I get to write everything in C | 03:53 |
| LaserJock | or Fortran | 03:54 |
| theCore | yuck, fortran ... | 03:54 |
| LaserJock | I am trying to get him to let me migrate it to Python | 03:54 |
| LaserJock | my lab uses Fortran almost exclusively | 03:54 |
| LaserJock | but we don't have to do any hardcore stuff | 03:55 |
| LaserJock | but I am lucky because at least my boss lets me use linux | 03:56 |
| LaserJock | although he has started buying a lot more macs | 03:56 |
| theCore | macs for scientific use ? | 03:58 |
| LaserJock | yeah, because they can do most of the linuxy things that we do | 03:58 |
| theCore | mac are more for artists than scientific | 03:58 |
| LaserJock | but you can run Office on it | 03:58 |
| theCore | that true, mac os x is build on unix now | 03:59 |
| LaserJock | that is the only reason my boss would do it | 03:59 |
| LaserJock | plus it is now "fashionable" to use macs among science profs | 04:00 |
| theCore | i don't like this new tendence to get "fashion" computer | 04:01 |
| theCore | it just a way to get more disturb | 04:01 |
| LaserJock | yeah, I went to a national conference in August with about 20,000 chemists and virtually all the presenters had macs | 04:03 |
| LaserJock | if you tell Apple your a scientist at a uni and they will give you a better deal | 04:03 |
| theCore | lol | 04:04 |
| theCore | mac are so expensive | 04:04 |
| theCore | even if you get a rebate | 04:04 |
| LaserJock | well, that is what government money is for ;-) | 04:04 |
| theCore | at we can install ubuntu on them ;) | 04:06 |
| theCore | at least* | 04:06 |
| LaserJock | I am just going to get my boss to by me a AMD64 and save like $500 over an imac | 04:07 |
| theCore | and you will probably get a better and faster computer | 04:08 |
| LaserJock | heck yes | 04:08 |
| theCore | nice i found a system with ubuntu as the default OS | 04:11 |
| theCore | http://www.zinside.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=70 | 04:12 |
| theCore | ubuntu is getting BIG | 04:13 |
| LaserJock | that is cool | 04:13 |
| theCore | the comp is crapy however | 04:14 |
| theCore | but it has ubuntu | 04:15 |
| theCore | B+ for me | 04:15 |
| LaserJock | I wouldn't turn it down | 04:16 |
| theCore | i would never buy a pre-build, it so easy and fun to build a custom one | 04:17 |
| LaserJock | yeah, but my boss won't let me build my own :( | 04:17 |
| theCore | does your boss let you do something ? | 04:19 |
| LaserJock | I can buy an imac | 04:19 |
| theCore | lol | 04:19 |
| theCore | yay! | 04:19 |
| LaserJock | he will let me build pretty much anything prebuilt | 04:20 |
| theCore | that give you some room for creativity | 04:21 |
| LaserJock | well, HP has got some AMD64's | 04:21 |
| theCore | get a Dell, HP suck | 04:22 |
| theCore | HP puts really bad parts in their comps | 04:23 |
| theCore | they cool case, though | 04:23 |
| theCore | they have* | 04:23 |
| theCore | Dell has better support too | 04:23 |
| LaserJock | I have bad luck with both | 04:26 |
| LaserJock | some of the high end Dells are ok, but they seem to have gone down hill recently | 04:26 |
| theCore | really? | 04:27 |
| LaserJock | I have and HP at home and at least 3 Dells at work, they all suck to some degree | 04:27 |
| LaserJock | the Dell 8300 has been pretty good though | 04:28 |
| theCore | i know, that why I always build custom system | 04:28 |
| jjesse | dell business support is good, personal support sucks | 04:29 |
| theCore | wtf, intel is going nuts | 04:29 |
| LaserJock | right, the machine I have at work right now is a personal machine I built | 04:29 |
| theCore | they are going to make processors with 8 cores! | 04:30 |
| LaserJock | jjesse: it is hard for us academics too, I think we end upin personal support | 04:30 |
| jjesse | LaserJock: they keep the business support in the US and personal support is outsouced to india or somethin like that | 04:30 |
| LaserJock | jjesse: yeah, I know ;-) | 04:31 |
| jjesse | grumble, migration to new as/400 has tanked, going to be here all night | 04:32 |
| LaserJock | what would you guys recommend for a desktop < USD$1500 ? | 04:33 |
| jjesse | hp | 04:34 |
| jjesse | if you have to go store bought | 04:34 |
| LaserJock | that is what I was thinking | 04:35 |
| LaserJock | I wish I could just build it myself though. | 04:37 |
| theCore | LaserJock, why your boss prohibits you from building a custom system? | 04:40 |
| LaserJock | theCore: because it wastes our time | 04:41 |
| LaserJock | he doesn't get that I could build it in an afternoon | 04:41 |
| LaserJock | I spend more time dealing with the crap of trying to buy a prebuilt | 04:42 |
| theCore | maybe, you could buy the comp in a local computer store | 04:42 |
| theCore | you could get a custom system without building it ;) | 04:43 |
| LaserJock | maybe | 04:43 |
| LaserJock | It really doesn't matter suppose. I just hope he doesn't get me an imac | 04:44 |
| theCore | lol | 04:44 |
| theCore | i am sure you would get over it | 04:44 |
| LaserJock | he probably would get mad at me if I put Ubuntu one it, but then he doesn't have to know | 04:45 |
| jjesse | how would he now? | 04:45 |
| LaserJock | he is so old school most of the time | 04:45 |
| LaserJock | he would be checking out what I'm doing or something and he would be, "Wait this is brown, not silver" | 04:46 |
| theCore | you got a really nice boss, you know ;) | 04:47 |
| theCore | theme it | 04:47 |
| LaserJock | oh, I really like my boss. He would probably just look at me funny | 04:47 |
| LaserJock | I can get away with just about anything | 04:47 |
| LaserJock | He just doesn't like these new fangled linux distros | 04:48 |
| LaserJock | He is an old red hat guy. Has never used gnome or kde or much of anything gui | 04:48 |
| theCore | macs are gui | 04:49 |
| LaserJock | yeah, but he just loads fvwm and emacs | 04:50 |
| LaserJock | although hes starting to come around a bit | 04:50 |
| LaserJock | at first he thought gnome was Windows | 04:50 |
| theCore | gnome doesn't look like windows at all ... | 04:59 |
| jjesse | grin gnome is ugly | 05:00 |
| theCore | i like gnome | 05:00 |
| LaserJock | well, he though kde was Windows to | 05:00 |
| LaserJock | basically, anything besides fvwm was Windows | 05:00 |
| LaserJock | but now that he has the mac he is better about it | 05:01 |
| theCore | kde look more like window | 05:01 |
| LaserJock | although his view of linux is from fvwm/red hat days | 05:01 |
| LaserJock | he is always amazed that I can pretty much do anything a Windows or mac can do and I don't have to code it myself | 05:02 |
| jjesse | LaserJock: im tied into IE on a lot of things | 05:08 |
| theCore | jjesse, like ? | 05:13 |
| jjesse | theCore: two programs that force me to use activex and also NTLM authentication | 05:14 |
| theCore | yuck | 05:14 |
| jjesse | and of course Microsoft Exchange, for outlook | 05:14 |
| LaserJock | bummer, I feel sorry for you | 05:14 |
| jjesse | LaserJock: i'm a windows network admin for a living :) | 05:14 |
| LaserJock | oh, well that makes sense then | 05:16 |
| LaserJock | I'm a chemist so I am fairly free to do whatever I want | 05:17 |
| LaserJock | except university IT can be troublesome | 05:17 |
| jjesse | grin | 05:19 |
| jjesse | i use linux at work as often as i can | 05:20 |
| LaserJock | I have windows at home (for the wife) and Ubuntu at work | 05:21 |
| jjesse | LaserJock: wife uses windows as well | 05:31 |
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| theCore | LaserJock, check i made ubuntu just like a mac: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i5591 | 06:04 |
| LaserJock | cool | 06:08 |
| LaserJock | I am much more into a traditional Ubuntu look though ;-) | 06:09 |
| theCore | me too | 06:09 |
| theCore | it could be cool for tricking your boss ;) | 06:11 |
| theCore | he would certainly be confused | 06:13 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 06:14 |
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| theCore | LaserJock, did you continue thePackagingGuide? | 06:27 |
| LaserJock | not so much | 06:29 |
| LaserJock | I hope to work on it more soon, I've been doing some motu work | 06:29 |
| theCore | i would like to do some motu work too | 06:30 |
| theCore | i would like to join the MOTUScience some day, those packages gotta make my life easier when I will start my science studies | 06:34 |
| theCore | maybe after the Packaging Guide ... | 06:35 |
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| LaserJock | theCore: sure | 06:40 |
| theCore | LaserJock, i must go | 07:01 |
| theCore | cya | 07:01 |
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| Madpilot | hi robitaille | 09:22 |
| robitaille | hello Madpilot | 09:23 |
| Madpilot | gearing up for the Christmas insanity? | 09:24 |
| robitaille | it's not too bad. Shopping is nearly done since we have to ship most of it to the east | 09:26 |
| robitaille | And I'm taking 2 weeks off of holidays. So it should be a relaxing time | 09:27 |
| Madpilot | cool - do all three kids still believe in Santa? :) | 09:27 |
| robitaille | The oldest is probably half and half still. #2 is really looking forward to try to meet Santa. And #3 doesn't really know what is christmas | 09:28 |
| Madpilot | heh | 09:29 |
| Madpilot | cool | 09:29 |
| robitaille | I have to say that Christmas Day is great when you have young kids | 09:29 |
| Madpilot | yeah, the rest of us cynics just start family arguments & such :P | 09:30 |
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| mdke | morning | 01:17 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | hallo | 01:17 |
| mdke | LaserJock_, it seems that KubuntuPackagingGuide is being actively maintained, perhaps you could contact the authors and work together? | 01:32 |
| jjesse | morning mdke | 01:33 |
| jjesse | mdke: still at work | 01:33 |
| mdke | no fucking way | 01:35 |
| mdke | jjesse, the overtime is clocking up huh? | 01:36 |
| jjesse | sure is, just wrapping things up | 01:37 |
| mdke | phew | 01:37 |
| mdke | it is night time there? | 01:37 |
| jjesse | starteed at 12pm est saturday and it is currently 7:30 am | 01:37 |
| jjesse | sunday morning | 01:38 |
| jjesse | card for tape drive crapped out during the restore :( | 01:38 |
| mdke | bloody hell | 01:38 |
| jjesse | the good news is that while we waited for a new card from ibm i had the chance to introduce my boss to linux and he loves it :) | 01:39 |
| mdke | oh awesome :) | 01:39 |
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| mdke | bloody hell there are about 5 wireless guides on the wiki | 01:50 |
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| jjesse | ok heding to bed have a good night | 02:35 |
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| mdke | jjesse, night :) | 02:49 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | later jjesse | 02:49 |
| teroedni | anyone working on alsa documentation? | 03:02 |
| mdke | upstream? | 03:02 |
| teroedni | yea or something | 03:02 |
| mdke | teroedni, you have to ask upstream... | 03:02 |
| teroedni | is there any work being done?* | 03:02 |
| teroedni | ahh | 03:03 |
| teroedni | so where are this upstream | 03:03 |
| mdke | http://www.alsa-project.org/ | 03:04 |
| teroedni | now in mean in ubuntu world | 03:04 |
| mdke | erm | 03:04 |
| mdke | upstream means the project that works on it on a distro-independent basis | 03:04 |
| mdke | i.e. that ^ | 03:05 |
| teroedni | well i find their wiki to bad orginased | 03:05 |
| mdke | for projects like ALSA, there is nothing ubuntu specific to document | 03:05 |
| teroedni | so there is no work and are neither any work planed for the ubuntu wiki | 03:05 |
| mdke | you can try and improve their wiki? | 03:05 |
| teroedni | so if i wrote and want to submit to ubuntu you will just send me to alsa wiki<--is that correct | 03:06 |
| mdke | teroedni, what do you have in mind? | 03:07 |
| teroedni | i am planning making an easy to understand alsa wiki | 03:07 |
| teroedni | preferly oin ubuntu | 03:07 |
| mdke | teroedni, what do you intend to write about? | 03:08 |
| teroedni | i will write all i can learn about the subject | 03:08 |
| teroedni | command how to configure etc | 03:08 |
| teroedni | while making it as simple as possible | 03:08 |
| teroedni | :) | 03:08 |
| mdke | if you want to write about Ubuntu, naturally you can use the Ubuntu wiki | 03:09 |
| teroedni | the alsa wiki is to difficult | 03:09 |
| mdke | but if you want to document ALSA, it would make sense to use the upstream project | 03:09 |
| teroedni | hmm i guess i can use all;) but im not gonna get in conflict with alsa wiki people | 03:10 |
| teroedni | thats what i fear that they wont like it if i make a simplify one | 03:11 |
| teroedni | i already started it on gwos and i plan to submit it to the ubuntu wiki when i starts to loook good...eg is finnished enough for your wiki submition....i hope you accept it then:) | 03:14 |
| teroedni | mdke wht do you think...i will be able to make the submit then | 03:14 |
| teroedni | i hope your not gonna turn me off then.( | 03:14 |
| teroedni | mdke :please what do you think?? | 03:19 |
| mdke | teroedni, anyone can post guides on the ubuntu wiki, you don't need approval | 03:24 |
| mdke | teroedni, but I'm sure the alsa people will be happy too if you make a simple guide for them | 03:24 |
| teroedni | okay i submit to ubuntu and alsa when ready then ...Go to hear;) | 03:25 |
| mdke | that way your work will not be limited to ubuntu, but all distros can benefit | 03:25 |
| teroedni | yea a good point there mdke:D thanks' | 03:26 |
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| bhuvan | when's next docteam meeting ? | 04:16 |
| bhuvan | can we make it on dec 17, if we have not already ? | 04:17 |
| mdke | yeah next friday i guess | 04:30 |
| bhuvan | mdke, ok | 04:35 |
| bhuvan | time ? | 04:35 |
| mdke | bhuvan, not sure... | 04:36 |
| bhuvan | 19:00 UTC ? | 04:36 |
| bhuvan | s/19/14 | 04:36 |
| mdke | we've been rotating between 14 and 22 | 04:37 |
| mdke | i guess 14 | 04:37 |
| mdke | i can't make that :( | 04:37 |
| bhuvan | ok, i'll update the wiki page | 04:37 |
| bhuvan | oh ok | 04:37 |
| bhuvan | i do have couple of topics to discuss :) | 04:37 |
| mdke | ah cool | 04:37 |
| mdke | what? | 04:37 |
| bhuvan | 1) status of status pages | 04:38 |
| bhuvan | it's not part of make target. atleast, they are not available in doc.ubuntu.com | 04:38 |
| mdke | ok | 04:39 |
| bhuvan | 2) cleaning up unnecessary/unmaintained docs from repo | 04:39 |
| mdke | which? | 04:40 |
| bhuvan | for example ubuntu/quickguide | 04:41 |
| bhuvan | atleast in my opinion | 04:41 |
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| mdke | you should post these things to the mailing list | 04:41 |
| bhuvan | ok, thought of discussing it in meeting | 04:42 |
| bhuvan | wouldn't mind discussing in mailing list | 04:42 |
| mdke | if you post first, then it's quicker to discuss it on the mailing list | 04:43 |
| mdke | mailing list/meeting | 04:43 |
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| bhuvan | yep | 04:43 |
| bhuvan | mdke, it should read 14:00UTC? | 04:53 |
| mdke | bhuvan, i wasn't sure about what time | 04:54 |
| bhuvan | last time, i guess, it was 22:00UTC. so, this time it should be 14:00UTC | 04:54 |
| mdke | especially since last week there was no meeting | 04:54 |
| bhuvan | do you mean there was no meeting on dec 02 ? | 04:55 |
| mdke | that is correct | 04:56 |
| bhuvan | ok | 04:56 |
| mdke | it was scheduled, but no one really turned up | 04:56 |
| bhuvan | so, we must merge the agenda ? | 04:57 |
| mdke | yes, those agenda items haven't been resolved yet | 04:57 |
| bhuvan | ok | 04:57 |
| bhuvan | good night all | 05:00 |
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| mdke | anyone home? | 07:25 |
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| mdke | heya :) | 07:27 |
| dholbach | hellas | 07:27 |
| mdke | wanted to ask your advice | 07:27 |
| mdke | you see in our repo we have a "tags" section? | 07:27 |
| mdke | i was wondering if i should add the source to the breezy version of ubuntu-docs | 07:28 |
| dholbach | hmmm | 07:28 |
| mdke | https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos/tags/ | 07:28 |
| dholbach | i don't think matt will be happy with the 8,5M debdiff already | 07:28 |
| mdke | dholbach, well, I'll ask him | 07:29 |
| mdke | dholbach, but my question has nothing to do with that :) | 07:29 |
| dholbach | ah ok | 07:29 |
| mdke | its just archive maintenance I guess | 07:29 |
| dholbach | ahhh ok | 07:29 |
| mdke | i found it inconvenient that there was no breezy source in there when preparing the update | 07:29 |
| dholbach | i thought it was about adding it to the package | 07:29 |
| mdke | nono | 07:29 |
| dholbach | ah ok | 07:30 |
| mdke | just for the repo | 07:30 |
| dholbach | what is the tags thing stupposed to be? | 07:30 |
| mdke | i think it is for each release | 07:30 |
| dholbach | subversion metadata? | 07:32 |
| mdke | no... i think that in the past someone has just created a branch for each release | 07:33 |
| mdke | any views? | 07:33 |
| dholbach | i'm not quite sure yet, what they are needed for :) | 07:33 |
| mdke | i'm not 100% sure either | 07:34 |
| Kingbahamut | gents? | 07:39 |
| mdke | hello Kingbahamut | 07:40 |
| Kingbahamut | http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/ | 07:40 |
| Kingbahamut | seems your number 3 | 07:40 |
| Kingbahamut | on that list capn | 07:40 |
| mdke | me? | 07:41 |
| Kingbahamut | aye | 07:41 |
| Kingbahamut | top 10 | 07:41 |
| Kingbahamut | most popular ubuntu sites | 07:41 |
| Kingbahamut | I happen to be 6 on that list | 07:42 |
| mdke | i'm not on that list | 07:42 |
| mdke | :) | 07:42 |
| Kingbahamut | mdke = wiki and all its working | 07:42 |
| Kingbahamut | kb = The Doc and all its working | 07:42 |
| mdke | not me | 07:42 |
| Kingbahamut | your COLLECTIVE efforts | 07:42 |
| Kingbahamut | when I say you, as in you everyone in this channel | 07:42 |
| Kingbahamut | and all | 07:42 |
| Kingbahamut | submitters to said documentation centre | 07:43 |
| Kingbahamut | =) | 07:43 |
| mdke | well... the wiki is community based | 07:43 |
| mdke | we maintain help.ubuntu.com | 07:43 |
| Kingbahamut | hrmmmm | 07:43 |
| Kingbahamut | I didnt see it on that list | 07:43 |
| Kingbahamut | help.ubuntu.com | 07:43 |
| mdke | it's no 2 | 07:43 |
| Kingbahamut | ge3rf | 07:43 |
| Kingbahamut | goes to show im utterly blind | 07:44 |
| Kingbahamut | know the owner of the blog by chance? | 07:44 |
| mdke | nope | 07:45 |
| Kingbahamut | on of his links points to a jriddel? | 07:45 |
| mdke | ok, but i don't think that is riddell's blog | 07:46 |
| Kingbahamut | I assume not | 07:47 |
| Kingbahamut | curious about the owner | 07:48 |
| mdke | dholbach, i'll ask on the mailing list, sorry to bother ya | 07:48 |
| dholbach | don't worry | 07:49 |
| dholbach | it's fine | 07:49 |
| dholbach | i just didn't know :) | 07:49 |
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