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| Goink | I am having timing problems on a dual core amd64. Does anybody know how i can fix it? | 02:02 |
| BenC | what sort of timing problem? | 02:02 |
| BenC | clock running twice speed? | 02:03 |
| Goink | Clock iss ssspeeding, bbut at all sorts oof sspeeeds, it warrries aa lot, and i get ddooouuubble orr mmmoree kkkeey pressess | 02:04 |
| BenC | boot with noapictimer | 02:04 |
| BenC | add it to /boot/grub/menu.lst in the kopt | 02:04 |
| BenC | and rerun update-grub | 02:04 |
| Goink | Thank you! I'll try that! | 02:05 |
| BenC | let me know if it works | 02:05 |
| Goink | Will do | 02:05 |
| infinity | BenC : Pong. | 04:30 |
| BenC | infinity: with -8.0, I am doing a lrm 2.6.15.3-1 | 06:26 |
| BenC | new acx firmware and filenames for that firmware | 06:26 |
| BenC | -8.10 I mean | 06:26 |
| BenC | just a heads up | 06:27 |
| fabbione | morning | 07:03 |
| BenC | hey fabbione | 07:04 |
| fabbione | hey Ben | 07:04 |
| fabbione | BenC: I got a regression somewhere, but i think it's udev related | 07:04 |
| fabbione | midiC$something devices are now created in /dev instead of /dev/snd | 07:05 |
| fabbione | that's one | 07:05 |
| fabbione | the airo module for pci cards is problematic | 07:05 |
| fabbione | it is loaded properly but it doesn't work at the first shot | 07:05 |
| fabbione | i need to unload and reload to make it going | 07:05 |
| fabbione | reproducible quite often. what do you want me to do to try debugging it? | 07:06 |
| BenC | airo cs works perfectly for me, that's weird | 07:06 |
| fabbione | airo cs yes | 07:06 |
| fabbione | this is Pci | 07:06 |
| BenC | not sure, is it a regression? | 07:07 |
| fabbione | yes.. | 07:07 |
| fabbione | it also tends to change interface name | 07:07 |
| BenC | want to start recompiling kernels? :) | 07:07 |
| fabbione | like at the first time is eth2 | 07:07 |
| fabbione | unload -> reload -> eth0 ? | 07:07 |
| fabbione | yeah sure i have no problems with that | 07:07 |
| BenC | not sure about that | 07:07 |
| fabbione | recompilng it's not an issue | 07:07 |
| fabbione | one of the pci ethernet (marvell) always shows up as eth1 | 07:08 |
| fabbione | even if alone on the system.. | 07:08 |
| BenC | ok, you'll need git | 07:08 |
| fabbione | it's kind of weird | 07:08 |
| BenC | and compile out of the tree | 07:08 |
| fabbione | yeah | 07:08 |
| fabbione | will try that during the week | 07:08 |
| BenC | git-log, find hte sha1's for "Linux v2.6.1[432] " | 07:08 |
| BenC | git-branch 2.6.14 <sha1> | 07:09 |
| fabbione | i know it works on .12 | 07:09 |
| BenC | do that for 2.6.1[432] | 07:09 |
| BenC | git-checkout 2.6.13 | 07:09 |
| fabbione | yup | 07:09 |
| BenC | build, and if it breaks, good, if not try 2.6.14 | 07:09 |
| fabbione | eheheh | 07:09 |
| BenC | once you find work/nowork | 07:10 |
| BenC | then start using git-bisect | 07:10 |
| fabbione | what does that do? | 07:10 |
| BenC | you could just start out with 2.6.12 and HEAD | 07:10 |
| BenC | git-bisect makes your life a lot easier :) | 07:10 |
| BenC | git-bisect start | 07:10 |
| BenC | git-bisect good 2.6.12 | 07:11 |
| BenC | git-bisect bad HEAD | 07:11 |
| BenC | it will bisect the commits, and checkout at the middle point | 07:11 |
| BenC | you build, you test, and you come back and do "git-bisect <good|bad>" | 07:11 |
| BenC | it wil bisect again, and you keep doing that cycle until it tells you "This commit broke it" | 07:12 |
| fabbione | ah cooooolness! | 07:12 |
| BenC | good/bad depends on whether your test suceeded or failed | 07:12 |
| fabbione | yeps | 07:12 |
| fabbione | that was clear | 07:12 |
| BenC | it's so simple I feel I have to overexplain it :) | 07:13 |
| fabbione | ahah | 07:13 |
| BenC | it's what I used to track down the sparc64 oops on my e3k | 07:13 |
| fabbione | yeah it makes sense | 07:15 |
| fabbione | assuming that when you bisect you can actually build | 07:15 |
| BenC | yeah, you can bump up/down the commit it stops at if you hit a bad spot | 07:17 |
| fabbione | i see you are brave enough to readd misdn | 07:18 |
| fabbione | it was removed because upstream sucks | 07:19 |
| BenC | doko requested it | 07:19 |
| fabbione | at least it did at that the time | 07:19 |
| BenC | it's compiling cleanly | 07:19 |
| fabbione | ok | 07:19 |
| fabbione | they must have started again | 07:19 |
| fabbione | it was OOPSorama in hoary | 07:19 |
| BenC | heh, didn't say I tried using it :) | 07:19 |
| fabbione | .../usb/media/podxtpro/.tmp_versions/podxtpro.mod | 2 | 07:19 |
| fabbione | i think there is a leftover in git | 07:20 |
| fabbione | yeah | 07:20 |
| fabbione | create mode 100644 drivers/usb/media/podxtpro/.tmp_versions/podxtpro.mod | 07:20 |
| BenC | thanks, removed | 07:21 |
| fabbione | no problem.. i just woke up and bored to death as you can see ;) | 07:21 |
| BenC | heh, try perusing bugs for 3 days | 07:22 |
| BenC | I think I've gone through half of them | 07:22 |
| BenC | bad thing is, if I stop now, I don't think I'll remember where I left off | 07:22 |
| fabbione | ahah | 07:22 |
| fabbione | [UBUNTU:debian] Add ABI files (missing hppa and sparc still) | 07:23 |
| fabbione | <- they are in the archive now | 07:23 |
| fabbione | if you want i can push them | 07:23 |
| BenC | I have them | 07:23 |
| fabbione | up to you | 07:23 |
| fabbione | ok | 07:23 |
| BenC | just need to commit it | 07:23 |
| BenC | my abi grabbing script is smooth | 07:23 |
| BenC | I need to put it in the debian/bin/ | 07:24 |
| fabbione | that's a good idea | 07:25 |
| fabbione | hmmm smoke :) | 07:27 |
| infinity | BenC : Which firmware are you grabbing for acx_pci stuff?... I've been all over the interweb and seen many conflicting reports on what we should be shipping. | 08:33 |
| infinity | BenC : Also, I already rolled a .3 with updated nvidia and ati drivers, so we may as well just do this all at once. | 08:33 |
| infinity | BenC : And I'm going to send out a mail to -devel/-users today to have people test vga16fb at 640x400 with kernels I've tossed on people.ubunut.com. Would it be worth holding off on -8.10 until I gte reports back from that? | 08:34 |
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| BenC | infinity: sorry, went to bed | 02:57 |
| BenC | infinity: but yeah, I can hold off. I'll get you a tarball of the firmware I have | 02:57 |
| BenC | infinity: bad thing is there is a table of firmware, different cards need different versions, but the driver (even the new one) isn't smart enough right now to load different versions for different cards | 02:58 |
| BenC | the new driver is smarter than the old one though | 02:58 |
| BenC | like the RADIO16.BIN thing is totally broken with the new driver | 02:58 |
| BenC | you have to have a pristine firmware tree (no firmware of other names that it looks for) in order for things to load right | 02:59 |
| BenC | so you really can't have acx100 and acx111 firmware sitting together | 03:00 |
| BenC | infinity: I have an idea | 03:43 |
| BenC | infinity: so wake up! :) | 03:44 |
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| infinity | About to send mail to -users and -devel about the vga16fb thing, so I'm here for a few minutes. | 03:59 |
| infinity | What's your stellar idea? | 03:59 |
| infinity | (Can we not just fix acx_pci to DTRT about firmware, whatever TRT is?) | 03:59 |
| infinity | Map certain filenames to PCI IDs or something? | 04:00 |
| infinity | (or something less crude, if that's possible) | 04:00 |
| infinity | BenC : flashy noisy nick alert. | 04:00 |
| BenC | hey | 04:13 |
| BenC | I have a fw tarball | 04:13 |
| BenC | several different versions for acx100/usb acx100/pci and acx111/pci | 04:14 |
| BenC | we'll have a default (newest version) | 04:14 |
| BenC | and the module will take firmware_ver=X.X.X to use a different version if they need to | 04:14 |
| BenC | if they have do that to get it to work, they'll be instructed to send us lspci/lsusb output so we can code it into driver | 04:15 |
| BenC | infinity: flash back | 04:15 |
| BenC | I'll send you the tarball when I'm done | 04:16 |
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| infinity | Anyonw want to give this a quick read? | 04:22 |
| infinity | http://cerberus.0c3.net/~adconrad/vga16fb.txt | 04:23 |
| infinity | BenC : Does acx_pci even support USB devices?... Or do we now have an acx_usb or something? | 04:23 |
| infinity | BenC : Also,want to read over that mail before I hit "send"? | 04:23 |
| BenC | we have acx_usb | 04:23 |
| BenC | but, the new driver is usb/pci combined | 04:24 |
| BenC | yeah | 04:24 |
| BenC | it's just acx.ko | 04:24 |
| infinity | Anyhow, however you work the firmware is up to you, since you have to maintain that driver. | 04:24 |
| infinity | I just hope it works "out of the box" for the majoriy of users, and requires tweaking for a tiny subset. | 04:24 |
| infinity | Oh, while I'm asking them to give me output proving they're not doing something dumb, "lsmod | grep fb" might be nice too. | 04:28 |
| infinity | Updated. | 04:31 |
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| BenC | yep :) | 04:37 |
| infinity | Ignore the few spelling mistakes (timstamp -> timestamp, etc), I just spellchecked in Thunderbird. That's all fixed. | 04:37 |
| BenC | btw, ia64 has vga16fb and vesafb now | 04:38 |
| infinity | Just want to know if the general procedure gets the point across and if you think it'll generate useful reports from otherwise not-always-useful-but-well-meaning users. | 04:38 |
| infinity | Sure, but our users don't run ia64. You can test it for me there, if you want. :) | 04:38 |
| BenC | I'll also test it on my nvidia geforce4 with tvout | 04:38 |
| BenC | can't yet, waiting for lamont to get my elilo that supports initramfs :) | 04:38 |
| infinity | I thought he already uploaded it to Debian..? | 04:39 |
| infinity | Or was he just talking about it? | 04:39 |
| infinity | Anyhow. Text looks sane? | 04:39 |
| BenC | yeah | 04:39 |
| infinity | Sent. | 04:39 |
| infinity | I hope I don't get moderated into oblivion on -users... I can never remember what address I have subscribed there. | 04:40 |
| infinity | I really should un-sub from all the lists and re-sub with adconrad@ubuntu.com | 04:40 |
| infinity | (subscribed when I was a contractor and didn't have the @u.c email yet) | 04:40 |
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| BenC | if you wait 5 minutes, I'll tell you my results | 04:41 |
| === infinity giggles. | ||
| infinity | My brain shot circuited and saw that as: | 04:41 |
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| infinity | s/shot/short/ | 04:41 |
| BenC | lol | 04:42 |
| BenC | so where did the handdrawn dapper usplash screen come from? | 04:43 |
| infinity | mjg59's handiwork. | 04:44 |
| infinity | Brilliant, isn't it? | 04:44 |
| BenC | it's not going to be the official one, is it? :) | 04:44 |
| infinity | Also, I don't expect this to change your tvout situation at all, but I'll be pleasantly surprised if it does. | 04:44 |
| infinity | No, it was just a quick hack to shrink the artwork. | 04:45 |
| infinity | I'll put a proper one back in in the next upload. | 04:45 |
| infinity | Damn, I did get moderated to -users. | 04:45 |
| BenC | here goes nothing | 04:46 |
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| BenC | weird | 04:59 |
| infinity | I don't like the sounds of that. | 04:59 |
| BenC | I don't even see the usplash screen, but my system stays in 640x400-70, and the console works great | 04:59 |
| BenC | before vga16fb would break even console | 04:59 |
| infinity | Did you have usplash 0.1-25 installed? | 04:59 |
| BenC | wonder why I don't see it | 04:59 |
| infinity | If you have -24 or earlier, your usplash will be black. | 04:59 |
| infinity | Maybe I should have made that more explicit in the mail. :) | 05:00 |
| BenC | I have 0.1-25 | 05:02 |
| BenC | even reran update-initramfs -u to make sure | 05:02 |
| infinity | Are you getting a black screen until usplash exits, or n ousplash at all, or..? | 05:02 |
| infinity | What do you get if you run "usplash" as root from a console (and wait around for it to timeout and exit)? | 05:03 |
| BenC | black screen | 05:04 |
| infinity | Rather curious about console output after it exits, if any. | 05:04 |
| BenC | seems to timeout on boot | 05:04 |
| BenC | after it exits I get normal scrolling output | 05:04 |
| infinity | Yeah, I mean if you run it manually right now. | 05:05 |
| BenC | this system is only partially upgraded to dapper (just what the kernel needs) | 05:05 |
| BenC | anything you can think of that I might need to upgrade too? | 05:05 |
| BenC | how long does it take to timeout? | 05:06 |
| infinity | Not off the top of my head. If usplash is using the right (read: mjg59's goofy temporay) artwork, and usplash is 0.1-25, it SHOULD work. | 05:06 |
| infinity | Timeout if 15 seconds. | 05:06 |
| infinity | s/if/is/ | 05:06 |
| BenC | it timed out, and my screen stayed black | 05:06 |
| infinity | Roughly. The timer seems a bit goofy on some systems. | 05:06 |
| BenC | can't get console back now | 05:07 |
| infinity | chvt to X and back? | 05:07 |
| infinity | Anyhow, I think this means you and I have a date tomorrow to look into this more. | 05:07 |
| infinity | Interesting that I've fixed your console, but broken usplash. | 05:08 |
| infinity | Halfway there, I guess. | 05:08 |
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| BenC | yeah, better atleast | 05:08 |
| BenC | ok, good night | 05:08 |
| zul | heylo | 05:25 |
| zul | BenC: apparently i suck | 05:26 |
| BenC | how so? | 05:26 |
| zul | gitweb for me was working fine i just cant spell..now i can do some work | 05:26 |
| BenC | lol | 05:28 |
| zul | i should have a couple of small things for you to push by wednesday | 05:31 |
| BenC | ok | 05:33 |
| zul | start slow as i always say ;) | 05:33 |
| zul | hmm...that sucks richard pryor is dead | 05:35 |
| makx | BenC: is ide-generic still modular in your builds | 05:40 |
| makx | ? | 05:40 |
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| makx | don't find the CONFIG_IDE_GENERIC settings in your debian/config tree | 05:45 |
| imrabti | Hello | 05:45 |
| makx | aah modular still. | 05:46 |
| imrabti | how to desactivate The CD ROM Reader In Ubuntu | 05:46 |
| makx | why imrabti? | 05:46 |
| imrabti | Because It doesn't work | 05:46 |
| imrabti | And often The Text mode in Ubuntu give an error Message | 05:47 |
| zul | what error message? | 05:47 |
| imrabti | Wait | 05:47 |
| imrabti | [429475.993000] No reference position found (media may be upside down) -- (as 0x06,ascp = 0x00) [4294750.993000] The failed "Read cd/dvd capacity" packet | 05:52 |
| imrabti | it not stop to give this message | 05:52 |
| imrabti | in text mode | 05:52 |
| imrabti | I must desactivate the CD reader | 05:52 |
| zul | BenC: is the i386/config the base config now or what is the scoop? | 05:53 |
| BenC | imrabti: rmmod ide_cd | 05:54 |
| BenC | zul: base config for i386, yes | 05:54 |
| imrabti | yes | 05:54 |
| BenC | each arch has a base config, and then additional config.$flavour | 05:54 |
| zul | ok so if i do a CONFIG_EFI_PARTITION=y in i386/config it will appear in the 686 kernels as well correct? | 05:55 |
| imrabti | it works | 05:55 |
| BenC | yeah, it will appear in all of them | 05:55 |
| imrabti | Thank a lot | 05:55 |
| imrabti | man | 05:55 |
| imrabti | I'm very Happy | 05:55 |
| BenC | imrabti: no problem | 05:56 |
| imrabti | it doesn't give the message | 05:56 |
| zul | BenC: sweet. | 05:56 |
| BenC | zul: put it in alpha order or it will get moved next time I run debian/bin/oldconfig | 05:56 |
| BenC | just to avoid uneeded deltas | 05:57 |
| BenC | well, it's already in there, isn't it? | 05:57 |
| BenC | just needs to be enabled | 05:57 |
| zul | yeah i just enabled it in my tree | 05:57 |
| BenC | nope, it isn't | 05:57 |
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| BenC | there it is | 05:58 |
| zul | in my tree just enabled it | 05:58 |
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| imrabti_ | Please How Can Desactivate CD Rom Reader Forever | 06:29 |
| imrabti_ | when i use the command rmmod ide_cd | 06:29 |
| imrabti_ | when i restart the computer I find that the cd rom reader is still here | 06:30 |
| imrabti_ | Please can anyone help me | 06:31 |
| BenC | this is a kernel channel, you should really try #ubuntu | 06:31 |
| imrabti_ | Ok | 06:31 |
| imrabti_ | You don't have any idea. | 06:32 |
| imrabti_ | that could help me to solve this problem | 06:34 |
| BenC | not that, just that, as the topic says, this channel is for discussing kernel development only | 06:34 |
| imrabti_ | ok thanks | 06:34 |
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| trevilor | is there a quick and dirty way to get a list of features that differ in ubuntu specific kernels from the common kernel source? | 06:51 |
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| imrabti_ | Please Could juste Tell me How te Completly desactivate The CD drive | 06:59 |
| imrabti_ | i serched a lot but anyone give a ansewer | 07:00 |
| imrabti_ | Please | 07:14 |
| imrabti_ | you tell me how to desactivate it with rmmod ide_cd | 07:15 |
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| imrabti | I searched a lot | 08:44 |
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| czr | can I use the git in breezy/universe to get the kernel source too? | 10:43 |
| czr | I'm looking for the root cause for why ext2online doesn't work on breezy kernel (using LVM2 LVs underneath) | 10:44 |
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| BenC | czr: see topic | 11:23 |
| czr | BenC, the topic didn't answer my question. problems solved though, I built my own git from sources | 11:26 |
| BenC | yes it does | 11:26 |
| BenC | it says to install git-core | 11:26 |
| czr | it says to get git-core for dapper | 11:26 |
| BenC | apt-get install git-core | 11:26 |
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| czr | anyhow, problem solved. | 11:27 |
| BenC | if you're building with the 2.6.15 configs, you'll have to be running dapper anyway, atleast a little | 11:28 |
| BenC | breezy kernel-package will not like some things either | 11:28 |
| BenC | so unless you are doing straight "make" and installing the vmlinuz and modules by-hand, you'll run into trouble | 11:29 |
| czr | well, I wasn't going to build kernels actually | 11:29 |
| czr | wanted to check whether the ext2online resizing patches are present in the kernel sources or not | 11:29 |
| BenC | the git repo is not for breezy | 11:29 |
| BenC | breezy kernel is in baz | 11:29 |
| czr | I noticed. baz? | 11:29 |
| BenC | or just "apt-get source linux-source-2.6.12" | 11:29 |
| czr | ok, thanks | 11:30 |
| BenC | you'll need to enable deb-src line in your sources.list | 11:30 |
| czr | yeah, I've been using debian for about 6 years, I think I'll manage ;-) | 11:30 |
| BenC | then why didn't you do apt-get source to start with? :) | 11:31 |
| czr | someone just pointed to the wiki page so I thought that is the way in ubuntu :-) | 11:31 |
| czr | is there a nice list of patches applied versus vanilla anywhere? | 11:32 |
| BenC | debian/patches/ | 11:32 |
| czr | thanks | 11:32 |
| BenC | also, there's a list in /usr/share/doc/linux-image-2.6.12-9*/ | 11:32 |
| czr | -10 now I think | 11:33 |
| BenC | FYI, Ubuntu isn't that much different from debian, so whereever you look there, chances are it's the same way on ubuntu | 11:33 |
| === czr nods | ||
| czr | maybe I'm going the wrong way about it though. the problem is that ext2online doesn't work on breezy over LVM2 | 11:34 |
| czr | and it works on RHEL4u2 | 11:34 |
| czr | so I should really look at RH kernel sources first to locate the stuff that they put there | 11:35 |
| BenC | does it need a patch to work? | 11:35 |
| dilinger | yes | 11:35 |
| dilinger | rhel has had a patch in there for a while | 11:35 |
| czr | I think so | 11:35 |
| dilinger | it was merged into upstream at some point, i forget when | 11:35 |
| BenC | I'm pretty sure we don't have that patch | 11:35 |
| czr | well, ext2online fails on breezy, so breezy doesn't | 11:35 |
| BenC | unless it's in upstream, then dapper would probably have it | 11:35 |
| BenC | what is ext2online? | 11:36 |
| czr | although I'm not sure why ext2online fails. All I get is 'resize failed while in kernel' :--) | 11:36 |
| czr | grows ext2/3 fs:s while they're mounted | 11:36 |
| dilinger | it's an old patch by andreas dilger | 11:36 |
| czr | comes in ext2resize-package (breezy/univ) | 11:36 |
| czr | dilinger, you sure about the upstream merge? | 11:37 |
| dilinger | positive | 11:38 |
| dilinger | i remember being very pleased when it happened | 11:38 |
| czr | great | 11:38 |
| czr | RH had some problems getting it into RHEL4 :-) only got there in update2 | 11:39 |
| czr | which kernel will dapper be using? | 11:39 |
| czr | -15? | 11:39 |
| BenC | yes | 11:39 |
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| czr | hmm. would the universe end if I'd build a -15 from vanilla sources manually and install it in breezy? | 11:40 |
| czr | does udev need changes, etc? | 11:40 |
| BenC | you may be missing some devices on your desktop | 11:43 |
| BenC | but generally it should work | 11:43 |
| BenC | it doesn't take a whole lot to install the dapper kernel | 11:44 |
| BenC | it only updates a few packages | 11:44 |
| BenC | udev mainly, and it will remove hotplug, since it's obsolete | 11:44 |
| czr | ah, will all the hotplug helper scripts go too? | 11:44 |
| BenC | yeah, but udev handles it mostly | 11:44 |
| BenC | may want to add "auto eth0" to /etc/network/interfaces though | 11:45 |
| czr | yes, I wondered about that in some distros which have both udev and hotplug scripts | 11:45 |
| BenC | 2.6.15 allowed udev to be cleaned up a lot, and hotplug to just disappear | 11:45 |
| czr | ah, it's using hotplug. good idea | 11:45 |
| czr | well, I'll give it a spin soon | 11:46 |
| czr | the ext2online is really nice feature | 11:46 |
| dilinger | http://www.kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=blob;h=6104ad3105077ec7a14e5da4f24a261d116035a0;hb=e4f5c82a92c2a546a16af1614114eec19120e40a;f=fs/ext3/resize.c | 11:56 |
| dilinger | i wonder if he's still working for cfs | 11:57 |
| czr | ah, thanks dilinger | 12:03 |
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