=== doko [n=doko@dslb-084-059-076-183.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [12:48] infinity: ping === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Goink [n=bai@port130.ds1-hj.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [02:02] I am having timing problems on a dual core amd64. Does anybody know how i can fix it? [02:02] what sort of timing problem? [02:03] clock running twice speed? [02:04] Clock iss ssspeeding, bbut at all sorts oof sspeeeds, it warrries aa lot, and i get ddooouuubble orr mmmoree kkkeey pressess [02:04] boot with noapictimer [02:04] add it to /boot/grub/menu.lst in the kopt [02:04] and rerun update-grub [02:05] Thank you! I'll try that! [02:05] let me know if it works [02:05] Will do [04:30] BenC : Pong. [06:26] infinity: with -8.0, I am doing a lrm 2.6.15.3-1 [06:26] new acx firmware and filenames for that firmware [06:26] -8.10 I mean [06:27] just a heads up [07:03] morning [07:04] hey fabbione [07:04] hey Ben [07:04] BenC: I got a regression somewhere, but i think it's udev related [07:05] midiC$something devices are now created in /dev instead of /dev/snd [07:05] that's one [07:05] the airo module for pci cards is problematic [07:05] it is loaded properly but it doesn't work at the first shot [07:05] i need to unload and reload to make it going [07:06] reproducible quite often. what do you want me to do to try debugging it? [07:06] airo cs works perfectly for me, that's weird [07:06] airo cs yes [07:06] this is Pci [07:07] not sure, is it a regression? [07:07] yes.. [07:07] it also tends to change interface name [07:07] want to start recompiling kernels? :) [07:07] like at the first time is eth2 [07:07] unload -> reload -> eth0 ? [07:07] yeah sure i have no problems with that [07:07] not sure about that [07:07] recompilng it's not an issue [07:08] one of the pci ethernet (marvell) always shows up as eth1 [07:08] even if alone on the system.. [07:08] ok, you'll need git [07:08] it's kind of weird [07:08] and compile out of the tree [07:08] yeah [07:08] will try that during the week [07:08] git-log, find hte sha1's for "Linux v2.6.1[432] " [07:09] git-branch 2.6.14 [07:09] i know it works on .12 [07:09] do that for 2.6.1[432] [07:09] git-checkout 2.6.13 [07:09] yup [07:09] build, and if it breaks, good, if not try 2.6.14 [07:09] eheheh [07:10] once you find work/nowork [07:10] then start using git-bisect [07:10] what does that do? [07:10] you could just start out with 2.6.12 and HEAD [07:10] git-bisect makes your life a lot easier :) [07:10] git-bisect start [07:11] git-bisect good 2.6.12 [07:11] git-bisect bad HEAD [07:11] it will bisect the commits, and checkout at the middle point [07:11] you build, you test, and you come back and do "git-bisect " [07:12] it wil bisect again, and you keep doing that cycle until it tells you "This commit broke it" [07:12] ah cooooolness! [07:12] good/bad depends on whether your test suceeded or failed [07:12] yeps [07:12] that was clear [07:13] it's so simple I feel I have to overexplain it :) [07:13] ahah [07:13] it's what I used to track down the sparc64 oops on my e3k [07:15] yeah it makes sense [07:15] assuming that when you bisect you can actually build [07:17] yeah, you can bump up/down the commit it stops at if you hit a bad spot [07:18] i see you are brave enough to readd misdn [07:19] it was removed because upstream sucks [07:19] doko requested it [07:19] at least it did at that the time [07:19] it's compiling cleanly [07:19] ok [07:19] they must have started again [07:19] it was OOPSorama in hoary [07:19] heh, didn't say I tried using it :) [07:19] .../usb/media/podxtpro/.tmp_versions/podxtpro.mod | 2 [07:20] i think there is a leftover in git [07:20] yeah [07:20] create mode 100644 drivers/usb/media/podxtpro/.tmp_versions/podxtpro.mod [07:21] thanks, removed [07:21] no problem.. i just woke up and bored to death as you can see ;) [07:22] heh, try perusing bugs for 3 days [07:22] I think I've gone through half of them [07:22] bad thing is, if I stop now, I don't think I'll remember where I left off [07:22] ahah [07:23] [UBUNTU:debian] Add ABI files (missing hppa and sparc still) [07:23] <- they are in the archive now [07:23] if you want i can push them [07:23] I have them [07:23] up to you [07:23] ok [07:23] just need to commit it [07:23] my abi grabbing script is smooth [07:24] I need to put it in the debian/bin/ [07:25] that's a good idea [07:27] hmmm smoke :) [08:33] BenC : Which firmware are you grabbing for acx_pci stuff?... I've been all over the interweb and seen many conflicting reports on what we should be shipping. [08:33] BenC : Also, I already rolled a .3 with updated nvidia and ati drivers, so we may as well just do this all at once. [08:34] BenC : And I'm going to send out a mail to -devel/-users today to have people test vga16fb at 640x400 with kernels I've tossed on people.ubunut.com. Would it be worth holding off on -8.10 until I gte reports back from that? === trevilor [n=gnu@p549CD557.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === mjg59 [n=mjg59@cavan.codon.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [02:57] infinity: sorry, went to bed [02:57] infinity: but yeah, I can hold off. I'll get you a tarball of the firmware I have [02:58] infinity: bad thing is there is a table of firmware, different cards need different versions, but the driver (even the new one) isn't smart enough right now to load different versions for different cards [02:58] the new driver is smarter than the old one though [02:58] like the RADIO16.BIN thing is totally broken with the new driver [02:59] you have to have a pristine firmware tree (no firmware of other names that it looks for) in order for things to load right [03:00] so you really can't have acx100 and acx111 firmware sitting together [03:43] infinity: I have an idea [03:44] infinity: so wake up! :) === infinity is here. [03:59] About to send mail to -users and -devel about the vga16fb thing, so I'm here for a few minutes. [03:59] What's your stellar idea? [03:59] (Can we not just fix acx_pci to DTRT about firmware, whatever TRT is?) [04:00] Map certain filenames to PCI IDs or something? [04:00] (or something less crude, if that's possible) [04:00] BenC : flashy noisy nick alert. [04:13] hey [04:13] I have a fw tarball [04:14] several different versions for acx100/usb acx100/pci and acx111/pci [04:14] we'll have a default (newest version) [04:14] and the module will take firmware_ver=X.X.X to use a different version if they need to [04:15] if they have do that to get it to work, they'll be instructed to send us lspci/lsusb output so we can code it into driver [04:15] infinity: flash back [04:16] I'll send you the tarball when I'm done === lbm [n=lbm@x1-6-00-13-10-7a-d1-e4.k233.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [04:22] Anyonw want to give this a quick read? [04:23] http://cerberus.0c3.net/~adconrad/vga16fb.txt [04:23] BenC : Does acx_pci even support USB devices?... Or do we now have an acx_usb or something? [04:23] BenC : Also,want to read over that mail before I hit "send"? [04:23] we have acx_usb [04:24] but, the new driver is usb/pci combined [04:24] yeah [04:24] it's just acx.ko [04:24] Anyhow, however you work the firmware is up to you, since you have to maintain that driver. [04:24] I just hope it works "out of the box" for the majoriy of users, and requires tweaking for a tiny subset. [04:28] Oh, while I'm asking them to give me output proving they're not doing something dumb, "lsmod | grep fb" might be nice too. [04:31] Updated. === infinity prepares to click "send" and head to bed... === infinity sees a hit in his logs from direcpc, and assumes that's BenC... [04:37] yep :) [04:37] Ignore the few spelling mistakes (timstamp -> timestamp, etc), I just spellchecked in Thunderbird. That's all fixed. [04:38] btw, ia64 has vga16fb and vesafb now [04:38] Just want to know if the general procedure gets the point across and if you think it'll generate useful reports from otherwise not-always-useful-but-well-meaning users. [04:38] Sure, but our users don't run ia64. You can test it for me there, if you want. :) [04:38] I'll also test it on my nvidia geforce4 with tvout [04:38] can't yet, waiting for lamont to get my elilo that supports initramfs :) [04:39] I thought he already uploaded it to Debian..? [04:39] Or was he just talking about it? [04:39] Anyhow. Text looks sane? [04:39] yeah [04:39] Sent. [04:40] I hope I don't get moderated into oblivion on -users... I can never remember what address I have subscribed there. [04:40] I really should un-sub from all the lists and re-sub with adconrad@ubuntu.com [04:40] (subscribed when I was a contractor and didn't have the @u.c email yet) === BenC downloads the kernel [04:41] if you wait 5 minutes, I'll tell you my results === infinity giggles. [04:41] My brain shot circuited and saw that as: === infinity downloads the internet [04:41] s/shot/short/ [04:42] lol [04:43] so where did the handdrawn dapper usplash screen come from? [04:44] mjg59's handiwork. [04:44] Brilliant, isn't it? [04:44] it's not going to be the official one, is it? :) [04:44] Also, I don't expect this to change your tvout situation at all, but I'll be pleasantly surprised if it does. [04:45] No, it was just a quick hack to shrink the artwork. [04:45] I'll put a proper one back in in the next upload. [04:45] Damn, I did get moderated to -users. [04:46] here goes nothing === JaneW [n=JaneW@dsl-146-129-50.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [04:59] weird [04:59] I don't like the sounds of that. [04:59] I don't even see the usplash screen, but my system stays in 640x400-70, and the console works great [04:59] before vga16fb would break even console [04:59] Did you have usplash 0.1-25 installed? [04:59] wonder why I don't see it [04:59] If you have -24 or earlier, your usplash will be black. [05:00] Maybe I should have made that more explicit in the mail. :) [05:02] I have 0.1-25 [05:02] even reran update-initramfs -u to make sure [05:02] Are you getting a black screen until usplash exits, or n ousplash at all, or..? [05:03] What do you get if you run "usplash" as root from a console (and wait around for it to timeout and exit)? [05:04] black screen [05:04] Rather curious about console output after it exits, if any. [05:04] seems to timeout on boot [05:04] after it exits I get normal scrolling output [05:05] Yeah, I mean if you run it manually right now. [05:05] this system is only partially upgraded to dapper (just what the kernel needs) [05:05] anything you can think of that I might need to upgrade too? [05:06] how long does it take to timeout? [05:06] Not off the top of my head. If usplash is using the right (read: mjg59's goofy temporay) artwork, and usplash is 0.1-25, it SHOULD work. [05:06] Timeout if 15 seconds. [05:06] s/if/is/ [05:06] it timed out, and my screen stayed black [05:06] Roughly. The timer seems a bit goofy on some systems. [05:07] can't get console back now [05:07] chvt to X and back? [05:07] Anyhow, I think this means you and I have a date tomorrow to look into this more. [05:08] Interesting that I've fixed your console, but broken usplash. [05:08] Halfway there, I guess. === infinity needs to go to bed before he gets divorced. [05:08] yeah, better atleast [05:08] ok, good night [05:25] heylo [05:26] BenC: apparently i suck [05:26] how so? [05:26] gitweb for me was working fine i just cant spell..now i can do some work [05:28] lol [05:31] i should have a couple of small things for you to push by wednesday [05:33] ok [05:33] start slow as i always say ;) [05:35] hmm...that sucks richard pryor is dead [05:40] BenC: is ide-generic still modular in your builds [05:40] ? === imrabti [n=imrabti@adsl196-168-49-206-196.adsl196-2.iam.net.ma] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [05:45] don't find the CONFIG_IDE_GENERIC settings in your debian/config tree [05:45] Hello [05:46] aah modular still. [05:46] how to desactivate The CD ROM Reader In Ubuntu [05:46] why imrabti? [05:46] Because It doesn't work [05:47] And often The Text mode in Ubuntu give an error Message [05:47] what error message? [05:47] Wait [05:52] [429475.993000] No reference position found (media may be upside down) -- (as 0x06,ascp = 0x00) [4294750.993000] The failed "Read cd/dvd capacity" packet [05:52] it not stop to give this message [05:52] in text mode [05:52] I must desactivate the CD reader [05:53] BenC: is the i386/config the base config now or what is the scoop? [05:54] imrabti: rmmod ide_cd [05:54] zul: base config for i386, yes [05:54] yes [05:54] each arch has a base config, and then additional config.$flavour [05:55] ok so if i do a CONFIG_EFI_PARTITION=y in i386/config it will appear in the 686 kernels as well correct? [05:55] it works [05:55] yeah, it will appear in all of them [05:55] Thank a lot [05:55] man [05:55] I'm very Happy [05:56] imrabti: no problem [05:56] it doesn't give the message [05:56] BenC: sweet. [05:56] zul: put it in alpha order or it will get moved next time I run debian/bin/oldconfig [05:57] just to avoid uneeded deltas [05:57] well, it's already in there, isn't it? [05:57] just needs to be enabled [05:57] yeah i just enabled it in my tree [05:57] nope, it isn't === BenC spells it correctly this time [05:58] there it is [05:58] in my tree just enabled it === imrabti [n=imrabti@adsl196-168-49-206-196.adsl196-2.iam.net.ma] has left #ubuntu-kernel ["Quitte"] === imrabti_ [n=imrabti@adsl-50-42-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [06:29] Please How Can Desactivate CD Rom Reader Forever [06:29] when i use the command rmmod ide_cd [06:30] when i restart the computer I find that the cd rom reader is still here [06:31] Please can anyone help me [06:31] this is a kernel channel, you should really try #ubuntu [06:31] Ok [06:32] You don't have any idea. [06:34] that could help me to solve this problem [06:34] not that, just that, as the topic says, this channel is for discussing kernel development only [06:34] ok thanks === imrabti_ [n=imrabti@adsl-50-42-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma] has left #ubuntu-kernel ["Quitte"] [06:51] is there a quick and dirty way to get a list of features that differ in ubuntu specific kernels from the common kernel source? === imrabti_ [n=imrabti@adsl-50-42-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [06:59] Please Could juste Tell me How te Completly desactivate The CD drive [07:00] i serched a lot but anyone give a ansewer [07:14] Please [07:15] you tell me how to desactivate it with rmmod ide_cd === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === trevilor [n=gnu@p549CD557.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === mjg59 [n=mjg59@cavan.codon.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === lamont [n=lamont@mix.mmjgroup.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ispiked [n=ispiked@unaffiliated/ispiked] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Earthpig [i=rl5wxf2m@gw.pigpond.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === dilinger [i=dilinger@mouth.voxel.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Mithrandir [n=tfheen@c5100BC63.inet.catch.no] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === fs [i=fs@213.178.77.98] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === siretart [i=siretart@ubuntu/member/siretart] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === dhpeterson [n=dhpeters@ppp8-85.lns1.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === lucasvo [n=lucasvo@www.wservices.ch] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === AcidPils1 [n=acid@websrv.werbeagentur-aufwind.de] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Traxer|on [i=traxer@shell6.powershells.de] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === smurf [n=smurf@debian/developer/smurf] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === makx [n=max@baikonur.stro.at] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === infinity [n=adconrad@loki.0c3.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === crimsun [i=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === #ubuntu-kernel [freenode-info] If you're at a conference, please contact freenode staff to make sure we've made special allowance for many users coming into our network from a single internet address ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp ). 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[10:44] I'm looking for the root cause for why ext2online doesn't work on breezy kernel (using LVM2 LVs underneath) === feclare [n=feclare@174.Red-217-127-200.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === trevilor [n=gnu@p549CD557.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === trevilor [n=gnu@p549CD557.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [11:23] czr: see topic [11:26] BenC, the topic didn't answer my question. problems solved though, I built my own git from sources [11:26] yes it does [11:26] it says to install git-core [11:26] it says to get git-core for dapper [11:26] apt-get install git-core === czr is running breezy [11:27] anyhow, problem solved. [11:28] if you're building with the 2.6.15 configs, you'll have to be running dapper anyway, atleast a little [11:28] breezy kernel-package will not like some things either [11:29] so unless you are doing straight "make" and installing the vmlinuz and modules by-hand, you'll run into trouble [11:29] well, I wasn't going to build kernels actually [11:29] wanted to check whether the ext2online resizing patches are present in the kernel sources or not [11:29] the git repo is not for breezy [11:29] breezy kernel is in baz [11:29] I noticed. baz? [11:29] or just "apt-get source linux-source-2.6.12" [11:30] ok, thanks [11:30] you'll need to enable deb-src line in your sources.list [11:30] yeah, I've been using debian for about 6 years, I think I'll manage ;-) [11:31] then why didn't you do apt-get source to start with? :) [11:31] someone just pointed to the wiki page so I thought that is the way in ubuntu :-) [11:32] is there a nice list of patches applied versus vanilla anywhere? [11:32] debian/patches/ [11:32] thanks [11:32] also, there's a list in /usr/share/doc/linux-image-2.6.12-9*/ [11:33] -10 now I think [11:33] FYI, Ubuntu isn't that much different from debian, so whereever you look there, chances are it's the same way on ubuntu === czr nods [11:34] maybe I'm going the wrong way about it though. the problem is that ext2online doesn't work on breezy over LVM2 [11:34] and it works on RHEL4u2 [11:35] so I should really look at RH kernel sources first to locate the stuff that they put there [11:35] does it need a patch to work? [11:35] yes [11:35] rhel has had a patch in there for a while [11:35] I think so [11:35] it was merged into upstream at some point, i forget when [11:35] I'm pretty sure we don't have that patch [11:35] well, ext2online fails on breezy, so breezy doesn't [11:35] unless it's in upstream, then dapper would probably have it [11:36] what is ext2online? [11:36] although I'm not sure why ext2online fails. All I get is 'resize failed while in kernel' :--) [11:36] grows ext2/3 fs:s while they're mounted [11:36] it's an old patch by andreas dilger [11:36] comes in ext2resize-package (breezy/univ) [11:37] dilinger, you sure about the upstream merge? [11:38] positive [11:38] i remember being very pleased when it happened [11:38] great [11:39] RH had some problems getting it into RHEL4 :-) only got there in update2 [11:39] which kernel will dapper be using? [11:39] -15? [11:39] yes === HrdwrBoB [n=matt@bob.is.teh.admin.at.vicnet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [11:40] hmm. would the universe end if I'd build a -15 from vanilla sources manually and install it in breezy? [11:40] does udev need changes, etc? [11:43] you may be missing some devices on your desktop [11:43] but generally it should work [11:44] it doesn't take a whole lot to install the dapper kernel [11:44] it only updates a few packages [11:44] udev mainly, and it will remove hotplug, since it's obsolete [11:44] ah, will all the hotplug helper scripts go too? [11:44] yeah, but udev handles it mostly [11:45] may want to add "auto eth0" to /etc/network/interfaces though [11:45] yes, I wondered about that in some distros which have both udev and hotplug scripts [11:45] 2.6.15 allowed udev to be cleaned up a lot, and hotplug to just disappear [11:45] ah, it's using hotplug. good idea [11:46] well, I'll give it a spin soon [11:46] the ext2online is really nice feature [11:56] http://www.kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=blob;h=6104ad3105077ec7a14e5da4f24a261d116035a0;hb=e4f5c82a92c2a546a16af1614114eec19120e40a;f=fs/ext3/resize.c [11:57] i wonder if he's still working for cfs [12:03] ah, thanks dilinger