[12:04] no surprise... doko is debian maintainer iirc :) [12:04] <\sh> na [12:05] <\sh> cedric delfosse [12:06] oh ok... spe was the one i thought of [12:07] python 2.4 is std on dapper ? [12:08] or 2.3 [12:08] <\sh> 2.4 [12:08] ty [12:09] then ile change the deps to python (>=2.4.0) [12:09] not needed normally [12:10] well [12:10] i was learned to give as much info as you can [12:12] the depends (build-depends) are only restricted in versions when you _need_ at least this version or only a version below one specific one [12:12] if the package can run with python 2.3 and 2.4 but we have 2.4 as default it can be left unversioned [12:12] well im not sure if this package works with older versions of python [12:12] you have it from debian? [12:12] no [12:13] its new [12:13] a candidate [12:13] oh ok... hmm, assume that it will work with 2.3 :) [12:13] and consider using dh_python [12:13] else i could leave the deps [12:13] dh_python ? i dont know it [12:13] upstream already had a debian directory? [12:13] no [12:14] i just created one [12:14] its just setup.py [12:14] and some image files [12:14] dh_python keeps care that your depends (not build-depends) on python are right [12:14] so rules interfaces to setup.py now [12:14] like i learned from pymacs [12:14] and it precompiles stuff in site-packages in postinst [12:15] do you know a package that uses it ? [12:15] so i can apt-get source? [12:15] hmm, when you have a setup.py the cdbs python classes are almost always perfect [12:15] and they will use dh_python [12:15] paramiko iirc... but almost all python packages should use it [12:16] ile see in pymacs if they use it [12:16] rave@ubuntu:/tmp/pymacs-0.22/debian$ fgrep hd_python * [12:16] rave@ubuntu:/tmp/pymacs-0.22/debian$ [12:17] nothing [12:17] oops you sayed dh_python [12:17] dh_python [12:17] :P [12:17] my bad [12:17] same [12:18] soo paramiko has it ? [12:18] iirc [12:18] kk [12:18] (or was it just cdbs?) [12:18] what the [12:18] no match found [12:18] (dapper) [12:19] also not in cdbs [12:20] yes, paramiko was cdbs... hmm... [12:20] \sh: please name one package that uses dh_python but no cdbs :) [12:21] <\sh> umpf [12:21] i know all the deps already [12:21] <\sh> hmmm.... [12:21] JohnnyMast: it keeps care of the right deps on python itself [12:21] pygtk and python > 2.3 and python-dev [12:21] smart :) [12:22] <\sh> drpython [12:22] <\sh> slomo: drpython [12:22] ty [12:22] not found on dapper [12:23] im missing a source resp i think [12:23] <\sh> should be found...I just merged it [12:23] not the souce package [12:23] <\sh> and requested a sync :) [12:24] let me do an update === scotth [n=scotth@157.182.209.170] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:25] not even after apt-get update [12:25] <\sh> what reps do u have? universe and multiverse enabled? [12:26] i dont think so on flight-1 [12:27] could you paste me the resps ? [12:29] <\sh> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse [12:29] added [12:31] w00t :) [12:31] ty [12:33] brb im gonna play cod2 on veteran level [12:36] <\sh> cod2? [12:37] call of duty? [12:37] <\sh> no clue about those games [12:37] <\sh> * Moved GCC 4 patch into debian/patches/01_gcc4.patch, based on [12:37] <\sh> patch from Stephan Hermann and Ubuntu. Updated rules to use it. [12:37] <\sh> wow [12:37] <\sh> even my patches were used :) [12:38] dito... i only remember that my brother told me something about call of duty some days ago ;) [12:38] hehe [12:38] when my patches are used my name isn't in the changelog except i file a debian bug :P [12:42] <\sh> slomo: i had luck and he is a good debian maintainer :) [12:42] hi [12:42] <\sh> re ajmitch === doko [n=doko@dslb-084-059-076-183.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:43] wb ajmitch === hunger [n=hunger@p54A62AAC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:45] \sh: I would have thought that not renaming libclan2c2-vorbis would be a mistake, seeing as it links with the main clanlib lib exactly like the others do [12:46] <\sh> ajmitch: yes...but is it exporting shlibs? because doko created the lists regarding the shlibs exports [12:46] <\sh> anyways..we can always revert before the 19th :) [12:46] <\sh> I just used the change now with the last merge [12:47] yes, it is exporting shlibs [12:47] it's the same as the rest of the clanlib packages [12:47] <\sh> ajmitch: ok...then doko was wrong..:) [12:48] <\sh> grmpf...why I can't get my i386 pbuilder running... [12:48] especially as you'd have to screw up debian/rules to get 1 package only with 2c2 [12:48] <\sh> it always takes amd64 packages and not the i386 [12:48] and the rest with 2c2a [12:50] \sh: what does dpkg-architecture say in the pbuilder chroot? [12:50] <\sh> ajmitch: I have to recreate it somehow... [12:50] ah [12:50] <\sh> ajmitch: but I just followed the documentation on the pbuilder documenation webpage [12:51] <\sh> and --debootstrapargs "--arch=i386" during create should give me the i386 packages, and not the amd64 [12:51] right === mrfrost [n=mrfrost@dslb-084-056-079-044.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:51] Hey, anyone know if I can run a wget from debian/postinst? [12:51] i wonder what happened to the debian NEW queue... one of my packages is still there since 6 days, beagle since 4... [12:51] Kyral: what for? [12:51] slomo: simple, it's debian [12:51] Kyral: sure... but it's not very sane in most cases... why do you want it? [12:52] slomo: I'm customizing openafs-client for the lab build up here [12:52] I have to pull some files from our server [12:52] Kyral: so are you ready to give a demo of packaging at your lab? [12:52] ajmitch: fine... so when you just upload banshee now we have enough time to review and fix it until it's out of NEW ;P [12:52] ajmitch: I have until next semester ;P [12:53] basically I am going to use the debian/postinst to apply the customizations we need done to the package [12:53] Kyral: why can't you ship the files but need to get them in postinst? [12:54] because we need to be able update the files w/o having to repackage the thing === thierry [n=thierry@modemcable175.142-201-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:55] then do it ;) === Danten [n=danten@h114n4c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #Ubuntu-motu [12:57] yah its not like these will ever see a repo outside our own [01:06] Hieronymus: still around? [01:15] LaserJock: yes [01:15] and no, I haven't tried dapper yet [01:16] \sh: hm, the sleepless merger? [01:16] <\sh> hehe [01:17] <\sh> I have to catch up with you guys :) [01:17] definitly not with me... you had more merges than me from the beginning... and in the time where i was working only on mplayer you did millions of merges ;) [01:19] <\sh> ah trillions pls :) [01:19] <\sh> I'm not so slow :) [01:19] azeem: ping? again [01:19] Hieronymus: np [01:20] \sh: we only have ~20000 packages :P [01:20] <\sh> slomo: well those merges now...it was my second time I touched them :) [01:22] LaserJock: maybe tomorrow, or next week [01:22] oh lol... i chose the correct merge ;) http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/patches/dillo/ [01:23] \sh: would you mind checking my merges/syncs at MOTUToMerge? [01:24] <\sh> LaserJock: do u have a list of malone bugnos? if so..please mail sh@sourcecode.de :) [01:24] \sh: ok, on its way [01:24] <\sh> LaserJock: cool [01:31] how should I do if I want my ubuntu packages in Debian aswell ? === mrfrost [n=mrfrost@dslb-084-056-069-211.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:33] <\sh> you need a sponsor [01:33] I have an alioth project and at least 2 DDs in it ;) [01:33] so I only need to find a DD that would upload it for me? [01:34] <\sh> think so...I'm not familiar with the ways of debian..to slow for me :) [01:34] <\sh> too even :) [01:34] hehe [01:34] well what I mean is [01:34] about syncing [01:35] hmm [01:35] <\sh> raphink: ajmitch is the right person to ask :) [01:35] how should I number the debian package? how should it be related to my ubuntu package? [01:35] ajmitch: pin [01:35] ping [01:35] lol === raphink is getting tired === bpuccio [n=brian@ool-457afde7.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:39] hmm... why is something listed as to-be-merged although we have the debian version without changes? === minghua [n=minghua@69-153-139-23.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:41] <\sh> slomo: package? [01:42] pygame [01:42] hello MOTUs! [01:42] hi minghua [01:43] how is the REVU day going? [01:43] not fast [01:43] :( [01:43] <\sh> slomo: it's an assigned bug for you...did you request a sync and didn't close your bug? [01:43] <\sh> hmm [01:44] <\sh> mbreit was requesting a sync on the 2005-11-19 [01:44] \sh: i re-created the bug because it told me "last: mail@slomosnail.de" as assignee [01:44] hi minghua [01:44] hi raphink, slomo [01:44] <\sh> slomo: different version from the last upload? [01:45] <\sh> 1.7.1release-1 was the last sync [01:45] \sh: and it should be autosynced to -2 [01:45] no changes were made [01:45] <\sh> slomo: strange..close it then :) [01:45] <\sh> slomo: or ask scott :) [01:46] hmm, closing is less work ;) i'll ask him when this happens again === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:49] <\sh> LaserJock: tex-guy uploaded [01:49] \sh: thanks [01:50] <\sh> LaserJock: bug 4091 is gvr not xchat-systray [01:50] Malone bug #4091: gvr: sync new debian version In: gvr (Ubuntu), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: MOTU Merge Team, Status: Rejected https://launchpad.net/bugs/4091 [01:51] oh god, not Imake hell [01:52] <\sh> LaserJock: mayavi uploaded [01:57] \sh: sorry should be bug 4081 [01:57] Malone bug #4081: systray (Ubuntu) - xchat-systray: merge new debian version In: xchat-systray (Ubuntu), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: MOTU, Status: PendingUpload https://launchpad.net/bugs/4081 === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi_x41 [n=herzi@pD950BD7D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:58] <\sh> LaserJock: k [01:58] <\sh> crimsun: imake hell? [02:00] xemacs21 -> wnn6-sdk > ftbfs [02:00] <\sh> LaserJock: see #u-devel...requested the syncs... [02:00] ahhh, katie loves me ;-) [02:00] <\sh> crimsun: ugh [02:01] \sh: thanks much [02:01] <\sh> LaserJock: all your bugs done..please check dapper-changes and buildds :) [02:02] \sh: will do === mmtb [n=mmtb@dyp12.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:02] \sh: how hard did you look at the diffs? [02:03] <\sh> LaserJock: well...the most interesting question is, how hard did I look on the merge report :) [02:03] 2 AM here [02:03] time for bed ;) [02:03] \sh: ah, it just seems like you did that fast [02:04] another long day [02:04] <\sh> LaserJock: the most interesting parts are dropped patches...what is mom dropping from debian, or vice versa... [02:05] <\sh> LaserJock: and much much more interesting is....when there are ubuntu dropped patches [02:06] yeah, I haven't seen to many of those [02:07] <\sh> LaserJock: well..dropped debian patches are most of the time already applied by ubuntu...so there is a match between debian and ubuntu... [02:08] <\sh> and could be seen as a good candidate for a sync [02:09] right [02:09] <\sh> well...the most problematic is "dropped ubuntu changes" [02:09] I just need to stop picking wxwidgets2.6 to work on. that thing takes a long time to build [02:10] yeah I don't understand why MoM drops patches [02:10] <\sh> LaserJock: hehehe [02:11] hey \sh [02:11] <\sh> LaserJock: well...easy [02:11] <\sh> good morning hub :) [02:11] <\sh> LaserJock: e.g. glu-transition [02:11] <\sh> LaserJock: we are using for mesa stuff the following build-deps: libgl1-mesa-dev and libglu1-mesa-dev [02:12] <\sh> LaserJock: debian but is still using the old xlibsmesa-glu-dev and xlibsmesa-gl-dev or the transitional packages libgl1-xorg-dev etc. [02:12] \sh: it is not the morninh here [02:12] \sh: so you quit? [02:13] <\sh> LaserJock: so, mom will tell us the difference between debian and ubuntu and put them into ubuntu dropped patches [02:13] \sh: I would think that it is well defined enough that that MoM could handle it [02:13] <\sh> hub: yes [02:13] <\sh> hub: but here it's morning :) [02:23] LaserJock: pong again [02:24] azeem: did you see bug 5632 ? [02:24] Malone bug #5632: Ghemical won't start up (breezy amd64) In: ghemical (Ubuntu), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: MOTU Science, Status: New https://launchpad.net/bugs/5632 [02:24] yeah [02:25] I am getting the bug reporter to make a dapper chroot to see if it is the same in dapper but I don't have access to an AMD64 [02:25] me neither [02:26] he also did bug 5643 [02:26] Malone bug #5643: [patch] Ghemical .desktop file is not so good (absolute path, missing stuff, invalid stuff) In: ghemical (Ubuntu), Severity: Minor, Assigned to: MOTU Science, Status: New https://launchpad.net/bugs/5643 [02:27] yeah, saw that one as well [02:27] anway, you have probably already saw all that but I wondered if it was anything you wanted to do upstream [02:27] before we sync again [02:28] maybe we could ask whether he could try another XServer for #5632, as the first frame of the backtrace shows the r200 DRI module [02:30] <\sh> ghemical is not installable on amd64 (dapper) [02:30] \sh: how about breezy? [02:30] \sh: that's great [02:30] <\sh> we don't think about breezy :) [02:31] I know, I was just wondering if it had something to do with the last release [02:31] <\sh> i'll install...let me check [02:32] yeah, it FTBFS on 64bit arches [02:32] I sent that upstream === Kyral [n=kyral@hamlin-166-12336.hamlin.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:32] but considering that it was pretty unusable in breezy anyway... AMD64 isn't much worse off [02:33] hrm, at least I thought I did [02:33] <\sh> well...drawing one line works [02:33] <\sh> clicking on the edge of this line and it segfaults [02:33] \sh: sounds the same as i386 ;-) [02:33] oy... [02:35] \sh: so it started up ok for you on AMD64 in Breezy? [02:35] <\sh> LaserJock: yes..starting was no problem on breezy === seth_k|lappy [n=seth@ubuntu/member/sethkinast] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:36] ok, so what should we do with the bug report? reject? [02:37] LaserJock: we could ask that he should try without hardware OpenGL or use the Vesa driver [02:37] it apparently is a problem on his box, but might be driver specific, dunno [02:37] <\sh> looks like [02:37] to bad he left, he was just here not long ago [02:38] <\sh> actually i have a nvidia card, but running only the xorg nv drivers [02:38] <\sh> without a monitor..so display is done on my laptop :) [02:38] oh, I sent it to Tommi privately [02:39] <\sh> but now it's time to go to bed :) [02:39] azeem: ok, and I'll comment on the bug [02:39] <\sh> good night folks :) [02:39] ok [02:39] cya \sh. thanks for the merges/syncs [02:45] any MOTUs willing to do a quick review? === sistpoty [n=sistpoty@ubuntu/member/sistpoty] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:52] hi folks [02:52] hi sistpoty :) [02:52] adventurous /me dist-upgrades to dapper :) [02:52] hehe === seth_k|lappy is going to kde 3.5 on his dapper box right now [02:53] I did kde 3.5 on the other dapper box last week, worked okay [02:53] cool... I use kde as well :) [02:53] hmm... where is Mez, anyways. no uploads since 2 november, is he still around? [02:53] no idea [02:54] and \sh_away did more merges tonight than I could in 2 weeks :/ [02:55] yeah [02:55] it takes me a longgg time to do a merge [02:55] but I guess I'll get faster [02:55] you will ;) [02:56] now if only I didn't have to worry about university :D packaging == more fun than biology [02:56] man, I'm with you there seth_k|lappy [02:56] hehe... and I should have done to programming projects since last week :( [02:56] s/since/until/ [03:00] brb, KDE 3.5 is ready... I hope it lets me log back in :P === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === seth_k|lappy [n=seth@ubuntu/member/sethkinast] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:06] wow, a perfect upgrade === seth_k|lappy gives mad props === Danten [n=danten@h92n4c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #Ubuntu-motu [03:23] I'm off to bed now... cya tomorrow === bmonty_laptop [n=bmontgom@ubuntu/member/bmonty] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bmonty_ [n=bmontgom@ubuntu/member/bmonty] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [i=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:59] Its official.... [03:59] you can type too much in one day [03:59] my arms are killing me [04:00] Kyral: school? [04:00] yup... [04:00] and not done yet..ow... [04:01] man, I glad I'm not an undergrad ;-) [04:01] Shaddup... [04:01] haha [04:01] heah, I did my time [04:01] do you TA? [04:02] no.. [04:02] I'm entering a shitload of data into a database [04:02] and I still have to write the frontend... [04:04] bmonty_: I'm done TA'ing. I'm RA from now on [04:05] good...I always thought TAs were pricks...especially the ones that couldn't speak English [04:06] bmonty_: yeah, there is quite a bit of difference in cultures when it comes to teaching [04:07] LaserJock: I have a lot of problems with the academic culture....it was difficult doing my masters after having worked for a couple of years [04:08] I'm doing it all at once so I don't have time to learn any better [04:08] I started my 8th straight year of college this fall, not even a summer off [04:09] and I realized on my birthday that I had been in college for exactly 1/3 of my life [04:09] I got kinda depressed [04:09] yeah, I can see that :) [04:11] LaserJock made me depressed too :-( [04:12] on my next birthday it's gonna be 1/3 as well [04:14] minghua: are you about done? [04:14] LaserJock: well, not yet. Most likely I'll get my Ph.D. in two years [04:15] minghua: doing a masters right now? [04:15] LaserJock: no, fifth year into my Ph.D. program... [04:16] minghua: ahh, I'm 4th year. Hope to be done in a year. We'll see ;-) [04:16] I gotta give it to you guys, I couldn't stand that much time in school [04:16] bmonty_: well, once you get in so far you can't go back. It' [04:17] It's like some kind of black hole [04:17] You just keep working with the promise that some day you will graduate [04:17] Okay...I'm done for now... [04:18] btw, anybody know how to strip \n off of readlines() in Python? [04:19] strip() :) [04:20] This is odd [04:20] My arms don't hurt where you think they would [04:21] You'd think my wrists would be killing me. Instead its my upper arms [04:21] Kyral: you should change your nick to CarpalTunnelBoy [04:21] Kyral you might invest in the keyboard I just got [04:23] I type lots of perl and shell scripts at work and needed to keep from getting carpal tunnel. Buying a M$ Natural 4000 Ergonomical Keyboard was the best thing I could have done [04:23] For how much lol [04:23] Kyral: http://www.neowin.net/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t387499.html It works perfect for me and here is an honest review [04:23] $50 from amazon [04:23] ......fuck that lol [04:24] my wrists don't hurt [04:24] its my upper arms [04:24] Your arms should be at a 90 degree angle. 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[05:57] I've had worse :) [05:57] nice job yesterday, ajmitch [05:58] crimsun: funny, that was today for me. Global communication is [05:58] interesting some times [05:59] LaserJock: it's technically today for me _at this moment_, too, but it's close enough to tomorrow (1 min) [05:59] 9:00pm here [06:03] crimsun: thanks [06:04] crimsun: it could probably be done better next time === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:07] afternoon all! ;D [06:10] 'afternoon [06:11] hi zakame [06:12] heya crimsun and ajmitch ! :D === zakame reads the motu-school logs [06:13] hm, is it just me, or are the html irclogs borked? [06:15] yeah, I've had to use the raw log [06:16] waah === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === irvin [n=irvin@125.212.73.46] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@hamlin-166-19647.hamlin.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:07] heya Kyral [07:07] hey === Kyral [n=kyral@hamlin-166-19647.hamlin.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === womble [n=mpalmer@eth359.nsw.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StevenK [n=stevenk@14.5.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StevenK wonders what to do about a merge that doesn't exist in MoM. === zakame [n=zak@210.213.78.140] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jcape [n=jcape@71.194.176.102] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:57] StevenK: do it by hand [07:58] nice tutorial ajmitch thanks a lot! [07:59] waah, I almost thought I could just sync mma :/ [08:00] irvin: not too confusing? [08:09] not to me... so far :-) [08:25] ajmitch: I actually meant in terms of filing a bug in LP. [08:38] StevenK: oh right [08:39] just file it? :) [08:39] unless the source package isn't listed in malone [08:39] in which case you have to go & whinge to the launchpad people again === ajmitch just decided to sit an LPI exam simulation online, and passed [08:39] rather surprising ;) === minghua [n=minghua@69-153-139-23.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:49] LPI? [08:54] linux professional institute [08:54] hm === ajmitch passed the second exam simulation as well [08:57] u r de bpmb [08:59] you're on a roll ajmitch [08:59] no, I just think theyy're a little too easy :P === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:59] lifeless: how's opensync going? [09:02] builds & passes tests [09:02] their demo debian rules are uhm interesting though [09:02] I want to tweak a bit before I upload [09:05] alright [09:18] omigod. rockstar has released GTA and GTA2 for free :O === magnon feels like being 14 again === irvin [n=irvin@125.212.73.46] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:20] they released GTA 1 at least years ago. [09:21] I never discovered [09:21] morning, by the way === lfittl [n=lfittl@83-65-243-186.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:35] hi ajmitch, thanks for the comments on my xfonts-wqy debdiff [09:36] ajmitch: I've updated the debdiff now, if you have time to give it a review, I would appreciate it [09:42] it's bug 5568 for your convinience :-) [09:42] Malone bug #5568: xfonts-wqy FTBFS due to missing build dependency In: Ubuntu, Severity: Normal, Assigned to: MOTU Reviewers Team, Status: New https://launchpad.net/bugs/5568 === raphink [n=raphink@gra86-1-82-239-88-236.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@gra86-1-82-239-88-236.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Danten [n=danten@h13n8c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #Ubuntu-motu [10:11] ajmitch: azeem: so opensync [10:11] yes? [10:11] my plan is to import 0.13 into bzr [10:11] with a separate tree for debian/ [10:12] I'll then have one bzr branch representing upstream [10:12] sounds reasonable [10:12] and one for the packaged version [10:12] patches will be against the upstream branch? [10:12] with (probably) one intermediate branch per patch [10:12] which then gives us patch tracking [10:13] yes, in a logical sense they are against upstream. [10:13] morning all [10:13] in a pragmatic sense its just a branch we edit ;) [10:18] well that's a good start, the main branches will live on launchpad somewhere? [10:19] not that repository location matters too much with bzr :) === maradong [n=bhentges@213.47.179.227] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:29] I'll register them ;) [10:29] I guess we should register an opensync product too. === mrfrost [n=mrfrost@dslb-084-056-069-211.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pef [n=loic@ubuntu/member/pef] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:34] 2nd review day today? [10:36] hello === bojan [n=bojan@dsl-239-114.utaonline.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:41] hi pef [10:41] hi raphink [10:42] a roule? === sivang reattempts to read interfaceverification.txt - this time from start to end. === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:47] I've uploaded a bad merge (forgot to modify debian/control.m4 which modify debian/control), so I've upload a new corrected revision, but it doesn't seems to do nothing, where am I wrong ? [10:47] ajmitch: azeem: upstream in bzr: http://people.ubuntu.com/~robertc/opensync/upstream [10:49] no itp for opensync yet? === blablablabla [n=maniac@i3ED6EF94.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:50] siretart: yes, lifeless filed one [10:50] 342179 [10:50] siretart: FSVON === robotgeek [n=robotgee@digital.celebris.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:51] hi, i was trying to setup a breezy chroot using debootstrap, but the apt-get update fails with a gpg error. i solved the issue with a include=gnupg --resolve-deps, should i file a bug? [10:51] lifeless: yay! [10:52] anyone? :) [10:52] robotgeek: last time I debootstrapped breezy, it went flawlessly [10:52] robotgeek: do you use deboostrap from dapper or breezy? [10:53] siretart: i tried yesterday night, today morning too. with us.archive,archive.ubuntu.com [10:53] siretart: breezy [10:54] i did read a debian bug which said the same thing, but it also said ubuntu doesn't have the problem :) [10:54] lifeless: opensync is something similar to rsync ? [10:55] sivang: not at all. [10:55] sivang: no, it is the successor of multisync [10:55] its the engine for multisync [10:55] sivang: think sync for pdas, phones, etc [10:55] siretart: not successor, component extracted from [10:55] lifeless: ah , nice [10:55] it's a framework and clients that are loosly coupled , as it seem from the project's page [10:56] lifeless: oh. so multisync is not obsoleted at all? === mmtb [n=mmtb@dyc16.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:57] siretart: i used it about 2 months ago or so, (multisync) it worked on the first go :) [11:00] siretart: the new multisync uses opensync [11:01] ajmitch: aaah, this explains my confusion === siretart hopes it will make it into dapper [11:01] there's a reasonable chance, I'd say [11:02] what address did we decide to use ? [11:03] did we decide on one? [11:04] since launchpad team aliases don't seem to be in place yet [11:04] pts I think [11:04] right [11:04] do you have an alioth project for coordinating the opensync pkg team effords? [11:04] I've never used the pts as a maintainer address - whats the syntax ? [11:04] thanks guys, i think i'll go ahead and file a bug. i'll try it out once more [11:05] opensync@packages.qa.debian.org === robotgeek [n=robotgee@digital.celebris.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [11:05] hm [11:05] maybe not, that requires a header [11:06] meh [11:06] I'll put my name in for now [11:06] so there is *something* valud [11:06] everyone else can be in uploaders [11:08] ok [11:08] I really must get time to clean up disk space to setup pbuilder [11:08] at the moment I manage my chroots by hand [11:15] lamont: hello, can you help me wit an upload issue ? [11:17] lifeless: I've reached the "And Benefits" part, just for developing expecations for the rest of the document - [11:17] lifeless: are you talking there about actually implementing a similar mechanism to the one exposed by the db, that can define and use the same logic, to test code against? ;-) [11:18] not as such, unless you are writing a db in your code [11:18] but consider that you are writing an implementation of an interface that depends on a db [11:18] that *interface* is what the rest of your code needs. [11:18] the *db* is not [11:18] but the db is the slow bit. === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:20] lifeless: ok thanks for the clarification - that makes a sense ,I will read it to end before asking how you are going to make the itnerface act and produce the same output as the intfc. using the db..:-) [11:22] sivang: thats what the paper is about ;) [11:22] ajmitch: is there a control macro to get the build-deps ? [11:23] ajmitch: it would be kinda useful to keep the -dev package in sync with the build-deps ;) [11:23] lifeless: oh cool, DependencyInjection to start with [11:23] sivang: DI is overemphasised in the current version [11:23] midweek I will be revamping that bit. The key idea is making the tests aim at an interface [11:24] and parameterising them with one or more implementations [11:24]