=== ingo [n=ingo___@cpe-68-201-249-27.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === ingo [n=ingo___@cpe-68-201-249-27.houston.res.rr.com] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === pitux is now known as pitux_away === bpds [n=brian@24-216-125-162.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #edubuntu === pitux_away is now known as pitux === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-133-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === ulinskie [n=yolynne@202.57.88.34] has joined #edubuntu === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@59.92.128.93] has joined #edubuntu === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-87-69-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #edubuntu [06:30] anyone awake? === freelove [n=yasser@59.93.255.194] has joined #edubuntu === mumbly [i=mumbly@s2ii.com] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === aya [n=yann@cav13-3-82-234-224-217.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu [08:19] how do i change the usplash? === jsgotangco [n=jerome@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #edubuntu === sankarshan is now known as sm|lunch === pha [n=phae@159.148.92.44] has joined #edubuntu [09:02] hello [09:03] Is there a live CD of edubuntu? [09:04] not that I'm aware for Breezy [09:06] no, no live cd for breezy. === freelove [n=yasser@59.93.255.194] has joined #edubuntu [09:10] Are there plans to make one (live CD)? [09:13] anyone here? [09:13] im on edubuntu:) [09:13] pha: it is planned to make one for the next version [09:14] pha: but edubuntu uses a full cd when not a live version [09:14] pha: so it may be difficult for the developers to make [09:14] freelove: yes people are here [09:15] :) [09:15] anyone knows how i can change usplash? [09:16] install another -artwork-usplash package, then sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r) [09:16] thanks crimsun [09:17] crimsun: thanks:).........how will i tell it to have say ubuntu or kubuntu usplash?? [09:17] how will it know what uspash i want:? [09:19] freelove: try running the command [09:26] Yagisan: it tells me no splash image found....although ive installed kubuntu-usplash-artwork! [09:27] freelove: is this after a reboot as well? [09:27] crimsun: ya...i installed that kubuntu usplash long back:) [09:28] freelove: cat /proc/cmdline [09:30] crimsun: root=/dev/hdb2 ro quiet splash [09:36] crimsun u there? === sm|lunch is now known as sankarshan === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.240.239.45] has joined #edubuntu === freelove [n=yasser@59.93.255.194] has left #edubuntu ["Konversation] === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has joined #edubuntu === irvin [n=irvin@202.138.170.4] has joined #edubuntu === HiveDrone [n=HiveDron@x1-6-00-10-a7-08-8e-f7.k130.webspeed.dk] has joined #edubuntu === adas [n=sdfds@195-23-237-209.net.novis.pt] has joined #edubuntu [12:04] hi [12:05] where can i check what does edubuntu brings' [12:05] ? [12:05] there is a list of apps on the wiki [12:05] i cant find it [12:05] :\ [12:06] found it [12:06] thdx [12:06] thx [12:08] the wiki is great [12:08] :) [12:09] :) [12:09] mhz cares for it, he'll be happy to hear :) [12:10] i need to install edubuntu on this school [12:10] is it possible to get cds? [12:11] see the http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuInstallNotes page before installing then :) [12:11] yes, some shops sell them, we dont have pressed ones through the ubuntu shipit system thouh [12:11] *though [12:11] ok thanks [12:11] i gtg [12:11] break time [12:11] :p [12:11] :) [12:12] bye === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.207.32.253] has joined #edubuntu === littlepaul [n=littlepa@p5084C8C6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [01:12] http://www.ubuntuusers.de/viewtopic.php?t=19093 Feedback from Brazilia written in german === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=spacey@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #edubuntu === ealden [n=ealden@219.90.92.38] has joined #edubuntu === neurogeek [n=neurogee@200.93.35.152] has joined #edubuntu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #edubuntu === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:13] hi all [03:15] mhz, some words about the remastering of edubunt cd's for chile [03:15] littlepaul: yes? [03:16] i mean - do you have some words about this? :) [03:17] littlepaul: i may have, could you be a little more specific, please? :) [03:17] what would you like to know? [03:17] I have read the logs of the last weeks and there you mentioned this. Did you worked on the remastering? [03:19] Oh, nope, we have not remastered anything yet for Chile. We may do it for dapper, though. So far, we are only working on some artwork ideas for light/old hardware and testing current release. [03:20] do you have enough hardware for schools in chile? this is just a general question [03:23] enough hardware? if you mean "modern", yes and now. Schools usually have very old hardware (Pentium I or II, 32 or 48 MB ram)) [03:23] Private schools have P III or IV [03:24] but about 70% of schools are in the old HW category [03:24] this could also mean good chance for edubuntu [03:27] yes and nop [03:27] yes = need of networked env. [03:28] no = default config is GNOME default. Many default apps still require lots of RAM [03:28] etc [03:29] k [03:29] we are trying to get as much info as possible from Schools, so we can know what to customize first === zakame_ [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #edubuntu === \sh_away is now known as \sh [03:30] mhz, the desktop apps dont require ram on the clients at all [03:30] littlepaul: we would like to design a survey/poll to ease the process but we are only 3 people here, and there's so much to do... :) === zakame_ is now known as zakame [03:30] ogra: I know, iknow. RAM is on the server, plus each client should have minimum 48 MB [03:31] yup [03:31] ogra: current server in a typical School is: IBM NetFinity, Pentium III, de 265 mg Ram y un disco duro de 80 Gb [03:31] the latter depends on the graphics card ... [03:31] yup [03:31] mhz, regarding the survey - do you have allready some points? [03:31] on paper, littlepaul :( === mhz slaps himself [03:32] :) [03:32] mhz, are you interested to colaborate with someone from brazil? [03:32] ogra: so, as you can see, we NEED lots of ram on the server so we can plug 20 clients to it :) [03:32] littlepaul: OF COURSE!!! [03:32] :D [03:33] mhz, I'm sure he is also interested :) [03:33] littlepaul: Edubuntu is a project for Schools [03:34] mhz, I think he will contact you in the next days [03:34] therefore, besides the Linux points, we work on social areas, so yes, we work with anyone who has an interest on imporving current sad IT levels [03:34] littlepaul: thankz for the interest and in case Spanish is simpler for you, #edubuntu-es it available too [03:36] mhz, I understand a "some" spanish but german would be easier for me... [03:36] ogra: BTW, I am not complaining at all... you know it is not your fault server needs 128 RAM p/client (on good performance basis) :D [03:36] littlepaul: hhmm, Ich sprecht nich deutch :( [03:36] indeed its my fault ;) [03:36] i could have opted to use twm instead of gnome ;) [03:36] hehehe [03:37] that's why we are here... to rescue those lost GNOME souls :)\ [03:38] ogra: my guess (still ignorant on how to run a good performance/needs testing) is that with WMaker, I can say 96 RAM is good per client [03:38] but 128 would rock [03:38] i guess its less [03:38] mhz one from the german ubuntu association had the idea to collect hardware from europe and to send it e.g. to brazil; this is an interesting thought === ealden [n=ealden@219.90.92.38] has joined #edubuntu [03:43] littlepaul: indeed! Actually, I am trying to convince people in Chile to help us work on a project called RecicLab = is 2 areas -> a) Computer Lab made with recycled PC's + b) we invite a kid and his parent of a family (social risk ones) to attend a 10-day-sessions. At the end, they will know how to assmeble a PC and install Ubuntu (light version). Also, if they came to all the sessions, they get a Diploma and the PC to take it home.. it's [03:43] theirs now. === Lord_Athur [n=Lord@pc-30-37-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:44] littlepaul: so yes, if that persona can help us, cool! [03:44] and if we can help him, cool [03:44] : [03:44] hi [03:44] Lord_Athur: hi there [03:45] Lord_Athur: how was your trip? [03:45] :D [03:45] #edubuntu-es [03:46] mhz this sounds very interesting; so I'll inform the guy from brazil about your work and I will talk with the german association about your project. If you have furhter information please send them via email to me [03:49] littlepaul: thx. if more info is needed www.tecnocimiento.cl/TecnocimientoSummary [03:49] ok === mhz will go off for lunch === guim [n=glederer@104.241-200-80.adsl-fix.skynet.be] has joined #edubuntu === vmarks [n=vmarks@adsl-065-015-231-005.sip.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #edubuntu === pitux [n=jose@113-28-118.adsl.cust.tie.cl] has joined #edubuntu === guim [n=glederer@104.241-200-80.adsl-fix.skynet.be] has joined #edubuntu === ivan [n=ivan@194.84.5.222] has joined #edubuntu [04:45] Hi, i'm from Russia and probe this canal first === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [04:46] Everebody are this? [04:46] hiya [04:46] so how does the probing feel ? :) [04:48] Thanks. There are the people! Great! [04:48] :) [04:48] good morning ogra === JaneW [n=JaneW@dsl-146-129-50.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [04:49] he jsgotangco [04:49] *hey [04:53] I was the teacher and director of middle school in Russia. Now I intersting Edubuntu. === vincenzio [n=vmarks@adsl-065-015-231-005.sip.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.240.239.45] has joined #edubuntu === \sh is now known as \sh_away === kjcole [n=kjcole@dsl092-145-217.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === yaanno [n=yaanno@dsl51B67D07.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #edubuntu === yaanno [n=yaanno@dsl51B67D07.pool.t-online.hu] has left #edubuntu [] === \sh_away is now known as \sh === ogra [n=ogra@p5089E946.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === Petaris [n=Petaris@FredericSD-162.nat.wiscnet.net] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === Lord_Athur [n=alejandr@pc-30-37-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === mumbly [i=mumbly@s2ii.com] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === claude [n=claude@64.118.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #edubuntu === pirast [n=martin@p508B24BB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #edubuntu [09:03] hi people :) [09:03] does someone know if edubuntu specific strings can be translated through rosetta? [09:04] claude, which ones ? [09:04] by example boot messages [09:04] thats not edubuntu specific [09:05] see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/edubuntu/traduction [09:05] i think this should better occur in rosetta [09:06] err [09:06] thats not edubuntu [09:06] oh, it is [09:07] looks a bit weird on the grey background, sorry [09:07] which package contain them? [09:08] thats in the cd build system, we completely changed for dapper ... [09:08] but its not edubuntu specific ... thats ubuntu default [09:09] so is it included in a dapper package registered in launchpad, right? [09:09] i have really no idea, i'm a bit astonished, sinc the edubuntu CD hasnt saying edubuntu everywhere [09:10] errr [09:10] is that a livecd ? [09:10] we dont offer any livecd for edubuntu [09:11] don't know exactly === accel [n=accel@rrcs-24-172-220-22.central.biz.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu [09:11] sorry, but i dont speak french [09:11] what do the screens say ? [09:11] i have to talk with Manu, which is leading that for French users [09:11] Ceci est un cederom "live" d'Edubuntu construit a partir d'Ubuntu-5.10-live-x86, par l'equipe Edubuntu-fr. [09:11] thats not official at all [09:11] the guy who built that thing broke it [09:12] yes, i think this is a project aiming to build a live-cd based on edubuntu in French [09:12] thats silly [09:12] we have a liveCD next weekend [09:12] why? [09:12] a official one [09:12] :-P [09:12] even in french [09:13] it was long announced that we build one for dapper ... [09:13] ok, i will to talk to Manu about that... [09:13] i'm very sad that they waste their manpower and i still do a one man show [09:14] (the last liveCd didnt happen because i do everything on my own and had only 3 months) [09:14] if someone has stepped up to help, we would already have had one for breezy ... [09:14] i understand [09:14] i just subscribed to the new French Edubuntu mailing list [09:15] there is a french edubuntu mailing list ? [09:15] why the heck dont tey talk to us at all ???? [09:15] what a mess [09:15] this is a very fresh one [09:16] i think it's not too late to add some coordination [09:16] and why dont they work with us like the chilenian or spanish community ? [09:16] i told you, it's a very recent effort [09:16] ogra: subscribe and write a mail :D [09:17] claude: but couldn't ubuntu set up the list? [09:17] claude: in that case they would have to move all the members to ubuntu [09:17] maybe, but the list is hosted by official French loco team [09:17] only 7 members for now [09:17] ogra: is there any DE-(ed)ubuntu list? [09:18] ah, at least it is a official loco team... [09:18] claude, it cant be *that* recent if they already built a liveCD [09:18] lucasvo, not yet [09:18] but i wanted to introduce one with dapper [09:19] ogra: ok, good [09:19] is there a list of loco teams? [09:20] somewhere on the wiki, yes [09:20] ogra: i will try to learn a bit more about this team and keep you updated about it [09:21] claude, could you invite them to come to one of our meetings ? [09:21] my french isnt good enough i think [09:22] ogra: what meetings do you have? [09:22] claude, the meeting is every wednesday 13:00 french time [09:22] ogra: when will be the next one ? [09:22] ok :) [09:22] it would be nice if someone could sho up ... [09:22] thanks :-D [09:22] lucasvo, edubuntu development meeting [09:23] lucasvo, http://wiki.edubuntu.org/MeetingRecords [09:23] ogra: development... hm, what are you talking about? is it only for coders? or as well for users? [09:23] for everyone ... === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu [09:24] if you miss something in edubuntu, thats the plac to ask for it (aside of the mailing list indeed ;) ) [09:25] ogra: has the mailing list a lot of traffic? (so far I only reading announce :D) [09:25] nope, one two mails a week, sometimes more if a intresting discussion goes on [09:26] its very ow traffic [09:26] *low [09:27] ok [09:28] ogra: I can't find the date, you have your meetings... [09:29] http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event [09:29] :) [09:29] note that all times are UTC [09:29] so its +1 for germany/france [09:30] germany/france/switzerland ! :) [09:30] oh, yes, sorry :) [09:30] yes, for me too :) [09:30] ah, at least not in american afternoon... :) [09:30] +the [09:31] nope its american morning (east coast) [09:31] lucasvo: where are you from ? [09:31] we have some people in maine [09:31] claude: Zurich [09:31] claude: you? [09:31] and some in australia ... so that the best match :) === \sh is now known as \sh_away [09:31] lucasvo: i'm in La Chaux-de-Fonds [09:31] australia isn't something like +10 ? [09:32] claude: ah [09:32] yup along this line ... [09:32] claude: we should make edubuntu-ch [09:32] claude: why/where are you using edubuntu? [09:33] lucasvo: i'm not using it for now [09:33] i'm only interested [09:33] claude: win? debian? suse? ubuntu? [09:33] mostly win :-(( [09:33] claude: ah [09:34] not at home, of course [09:34] claude: what are you using at home? [09:34] guess... [09:34] claude: ubuntu? [09:34] Ubuntu ! [09:34] :) [09:34] :) [09:34] is there any power management support in ubuntu? [09:35] claude: apt-get install edubunut-server [09:35] lucasvo: i suspect edubuntu is mainly of interest in a network (with ltsp) [09:36] claude: yes [09:36] claude: and it rocks! [09:37] i hope to be able to introduce it in our network [09:37] claude: where, at home? [09:38] no, at work, in a school [09:38] claude, not at all, edubuntu has a workstation instal option for standalone installs ... [09:39] and the liveCD wont include any server stuff as well [09:39] lucasvo, how do you mean ? power managemen has always been in ubuntu [09:40] ogra: lucasvo@lama:~$ sudo apm [09:40] No APM support in kernel [09:40] sure [09:40] ogra: how can I load apm? [09:40] just suppress loading of acpi modules and load apm [09:40] claude: what hw do you have at this schooL? [09:40] bu you only want that on very ancient HW [09:41] FATAL: Error inserting acpi_cpufreq (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/acpi-cpufreq.ko): No such device === francoisb [n=francois@lns-bzn-44-82-64-75-217.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu [09:41] how can I load apm/acpi? [09:41] apm is dead ... [09:41] ogra: 2.4? [09:41] ogra: why? [09:41] but if you have an old hardware which still needs it, you can use it [09:42] ogra: so how can I suspend? [09:42] because hardware vendors all switched to acpi since ~2000 [09:42] lucasvo: we have mainly dell machines (gx240->gx280) [09:42] FATAL: Error inserting acpi_cpufreq (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/acpi-cpufreq.ko): No such device [09:42] claude: mhz, ram, hd? [09:42] if it doesnt work out of the box, please report a bug and talk to mjg59 in #ubuntu-devel [09:43] hello [09:43] lucasvo: pIV 1.7 - 3.0 Ghz / 20-80 Gb [09:44] lucasvo: ram 250-500 [09:44] claude: in that case workstation is much better [09:44] yes, but we have still some older hardware [09:44] claude: ah, so sell the dell machines an buy a new powerfull server [09:45] :D [09:45] lol [09:45] yes, and buy some of these: http://disklessworkstations.com/ ;) [09:45] they are cool [09:46] still pricey for terminals [09:46] think they should buy under 100$ [09:46] i saw a project about that [09:47] just a simple box that can be placed behind the screen [09:48] sorry don't remember url [09:48] claude: hm, that is interesting, maybe epia? === \sh_away is now known as \sh [09:53] lucasvo: i found it again : http://www.ndiyo.org/systems [09:54] claude: this rocks!! [09:54] cool === \sh is now known as \sh_away [09:56] ah, yeah, these guys were at the edubuntu summit [09:59] but I don't see any "buy now" button :( [10:00] "The nivo is currently in demonstrator form - a fully functioning unit, but not yet available on sale. " [10:01] i read that page hortly before hoary was released, seems there is not much progrees in their marketing .. [10:01] too bad === lucasvo has to get a new pc... /me wants acpi enabled [10:02] but 100 english pound production costs will still result in more than 200 in enduser price [10:02] ogra: yes [10:02] ogra: but it isn't that much if you compare it with for e.g. epia [10:02] http://www.disklessworkstations.com/cgi-bin/web/200031.html?id=Xta8hU4z thie is the same size ... [10:03] its as big as a postcard [10:03] ogra: but not that stylish :D [10:03] its neat, i had it in my hands at ubz [10:03] ogra: hm, ok [10:03] jammcq had one with him [10:04] when I will make an exchange year in the US will buy one there :D [10:04] or let's say, several [10:04] indeed the metal case of the ndiyo is cooler [10:04] ogra: mod it! [10:04] hehe, yes .... [10:04] some colorful LEDs [10:04] lol [10:05] and a WATERCOOLING ! [10:05] ogra: just put it into aquarium [10:05] heh [10:11] ogra: the pxe diskless workstations all work with edubuntu, the ones in the ltsp category [10:11] yup [10:12] btw, is xinerama supported in ltsp? :D [10:12] i didnt test the small ne yet [10:12] nope [10:12] that might be a dapper+1 addon [10:12] ogra: why? what would one have to do to get it working/ [10:12] ? [10:12] hacking the xorg autodetection a bit to generate a scond config [10:13] ah [10:13] ogra: and install it on image? [10:13] ? [10:13] ogra: or couldn't one just set it in the ltsp conf? [10:13] yes, but before the xorg audodetection must support it [10:18] ogra: can you change status of bugs: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17232 < it says I should provide xlog and I did [10:19] lucasvo, leave that to the bugowner ... daniels will change the status once he gets to the bug [10:19] ogra: so daniels will even look at bugs with need info status? [10:19] ping him in -devel if you want to speed him up but dont tell (him itold you ;) [10:20] ogra: ok [10:20] ogra: :D [10:20] sure, he has set the status... he wants the info [10:20] ogra: this is actually not fair... [10:20] ogra: so when he has the info it shouldn't be need info [10:20] I could mark it as upstream, or is this bad idea? [10:20] yes [10:21] bad? [10:23] hm, daniels isn't here :( === Petaris [n=Petaris@FredericSD-162.nat.wiscnet.net] has left #edubuntu ["Out"] === ogra_ [n=ogra@p5089DB99.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === ogra__ [n=ogra@p5089DB99.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [10:46] A[A [10:46] [A[A[A === claude [n=claude@64.118.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has left #edubuntu [] === Ju [n=Ju@c-24-126-231-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [10:55] Hi [10:59] hi Ju [11:03] is edubuntu translated via Rosetta ? I can find only Edubuntu Cookbook [11:07] Ju: what is rosetta? [11:08] the webapp for ubuntu translations : https://launchpad.net/ === \sh_away is now known as \sh [11:08] Ju: I thought rosetta is handwriting recognition [11:10] Ju, which apps in particular do you want to translate ? edubuntu and its apps are contained in ubuntu ... [11:10] ... so in rosetta as well === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.240.239.45] has joined #edubuntu [11:11] ogra_: the debian installer [11:12] thats the ubuntu installer apart from one udeb thats ltsp related [11:13] Ju, i think Kamion has the installer po files in a bazaar archive somewhere, ask him in #ubuntu-devel [11:13] oh ok [11:13] i'will thanks [11:13] :) [11:14] claude just forwarded me your discussion about edubuntu-fr , I'm very sorry this project start like that... [11:15] i'm happy it exists, but it would have been nice to coordinate with us :) [11:16] sure... sorry about that, ill try to contact manu and ask him to show up here ;-) [11:16] the last release we had no liveCD because i did all the work alone, a helping hand would have been nice ... [11:16] now the liveCd for dapper is at the door, so testing and helping would be appreciate ;) [11:16] +d [11:17] ogra_: work was worth :D [11:17] (claude pointed me to the -fr live project) [11:18] lucasvo, sure, but it could have been far better if we joined forces ;) [11:18] but now we have a start ;) [11:19] yep [11:19] :) === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === littlepaul [n=littlepa@p5084C8C6.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #edubuntu ["...] === binti [n=bjorn@80.166.153.141] has left #edubuntu []