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| fabbione | hey Keybuk | 12:10 |
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| fabbione | Keybuk: i got a regression in dapper... not sure if it's udev... | 12:10 |
| fabbione | midi* devices are created in /dev/ | 12:11 |
| fabbione | they really should be in /dev/snd/ | 12:11 |
| Keybuk | k, which midi devices? snd or oss? what names? | 12:14 |
| fabbione | snd | 12:14 |
| fabbione | names are midi* | 12:14 |
| fabbione | basically all midi devices on my tivo are in /dev | 12:14 |
| fabbione | if you need the details i need a few minutes to power it on | 12:15 |
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| Keybuk | ok, fixed | 12:15 |
| fabbione | thanks | 12:15 |
| lifeless | Keybuk: the tried and true method of 'wait a week, update, reboot' fixed my udev glitch. Thanks | 12:42 |
| Keybuk | cool | 12:45 |
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| Keybuk | jbailey: yeah, they're all from musicals | 02:05 |
| Keybuk | can you name them all though? :p | 02:05 |
| jbailey | Keybuk: No. I have to admit that my musical tastes tends to extend to top broadway only, and then only from the last 20 years. =) | 02:08 |
| Keybuk | they're all pretty big musicals, iirc | 02:09 |
| Keybuk | well, other than the first one <g> | 02:09 |
| Keybuk | Buffy/Once More With Feeling - What can't we face? | 02:09 |
| Keybuk | Oliver - Got to pick a pocket or two | 02:09 |
| Keybuk | Closer to Heaven - My Night | 02:10 |
| jbailey | I'm only halfway throught season 2 of buffy. =) | 02:10 |
| infinity | Once More is season 6. | 02:10 |
| Keybuk | Rocky Horror Show - Charles Atlas Song | 02:10 |
| jbailey | I missed Oliver, but do plan to see i. | 02:10 |
| jbailey | The RHPS I recognised. | 02:10 |
| infinity | It's also the episode that seems to get many people hooked. :) | 02:10 |
| jbailey | infinity: My wife keeps hoping I'll get hooked. | 02:10 |
| Keybuk | Fame - Hard Work | 02:11 |
| jbailey | infinity: I keep pointing out that they can't act. =) | 02:11 |
| infinity | jbailey : That's not important. | 02:11 |
| Keybuk | The Producers - Spring Time for Hitler | 02:11 |
| jbailey | infinity: Funny, that's her answer. =) | 02:11 |
| infinity | jbailey : Given that the entire series is a self-referrential spoof, it doesn't need to have acting. | 02:11 |
| Keybuk | Little Shop Of Horrors - Grow For Me | 02:11 |
| Keybuk | Chess - One Night In Bangkok | 02:11 |
| Keybuk | I think that's the list so far :p | 02:11 |
| infinity | jbailey : In fact, it gets worse (well, sillier) as time goes on, but that just seems to make it better. | 02:12 |
| jbailey | infinity: Right, and I'm actually starting to enjoy it. | 02:12 |
| infinity | Sadly, I can't get Zofia hooked. She's resistant. | 02:12 |
| Keybuk | Joss Whedon is a modern-day god | 02:12 |
| infinity | I took a sneaky approach and got her hooked on Firefly instead. | 02:12 |
| Keybuk | accept it, sit back, and enjoy the fun | 02:12 |
| jbailey | I just saw the last half of the to be cont'd one in Season 2 where they try to make Spike's girl less insane. | 02:12 |
| infinity | Then said "hey, this is EXACTLY the same as Buffy.. Same jokes, same everything... You shoud really try Buffy" | 02:13 |
| infinity | So far, she hasn't bitten. | 02:13 |
| jbailey | I've been wondering if those were the first SM scenes on primetime television. | 02:13 |
| infinity | Oh well, I guess "I got hooked on Buffy 'cause I watched it with the teenage daughter of my ex-girlfriend" is never a good way to get one's current girlfriend interested. | 02:14 |
| jbailey | I think it depends on how long ago the ex was. | 02:15 |
| jbailey | Since it's been 11 years since mine, Angie just isn't threatened anymore. =) | 02:15 |
| infinity | This one's long enough ago, but people can be.. Twitchy. | 02:16 |
| infinity | I'll wait until we're a good 10 years in before I say "Hey, you do that swirly tihng with your tongue JUST LIKE ANNA USED TO." | 02:16 |
| jbailey | Right. It's clearly been too long since I've seen you. | 02:16 |
| infinity | And with that, I realise I shouldn't be drinking and typing, and I should perhaps just go to bed. | 02:16 |
| jbailey | I keep forgetting that your online tact matches your in person tact ;) | 02:17 |
| infinity | Tact? | 02:17 |
| infinity | What's.... Tact? | 02:17 |
| infinity | That's kinda the opposite of "saying what I mean, when I mean it, especially when I think you need to hear it", right? | 02:18 |
| jbailey | The first one is important. The second one is harder. The third one is usually when you need a walk around the block first. | 02:19 |
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| Keybuk | heh, I got accused of not having any tact over the weekend | 02:26 |
| Mithrandir | Keybuk: any idea how to emulate what run-init is doing, using a shellscript? | 02:26 |
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| Mithrandir | I can | 02:26 |
| Keybuk | we were in a club in manchester and had taken some whingy young queens with us, and one of them was moaning why he hadn't received any "shag tag" messages yet? And I replied immediately with just "Because you're ugly?" | 02:26 |
| Mithrandir | argh | 02:26 |
| zul | hey | 02:26 |
| Keybuk | Mithrandir: no, never looked what that does | 02:26 |
| Mithrandir | Keybuk: hmkay. | 02:26 |
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| jbailey | infinity: Next initramfs-tools upload, please consider sucking in all of Max's manpages. | 03:36 |
| jbailey | infinity: It seems to be currently most of the diff. | 03:36 |
| infinity | Yup. | 03:37 |
| infinity | I'm going to pull in a fair chunk of his diff on my next upload. | 03:37 |
| infinity | And do the DEBUG thing. | 03:37 |
| infinity | And discover the 36 hour day, too. | 03:37 |
| infinity | YAY. | 03:37 |
| jbailey | infinity: Consider polyphasic sleeping. | 03:40 |
| jbailey | infinity: And then do something else with the spare time other than work. =) | 03:40 |
| infinity | "spare time"? | 03:40 |
| infinity | I have about as much of that as I have tact. | 03:40 |
| infinity | The two may relate. | 03:40 |
| jbailey | True. =) | 03:41 |
| jbailey | squicky dreams, infinity. | 03:41 |
| infinity | May all your felching involve bendy straws. | 03:42 |
| makx | infinity cool | 04:13 |
| makx | big noise in our diff is the quoting of variables done by jonas | 04:15 |
| makx | i've not been consequent on this since 0.32 | 04:15 |
| Mithrandir | infinity: also, please remove the "exit 1" when detecting circular dependencies with a panic. | 04:39 |
| Mithrandir | Keybuk: why does init-premount/udev source initramfs.conf? | 04:40 |
| Mithrandir | Keybuk: it means overriding boot= on the boot loader command line won't work correctly. | 04:40 |
| Mithrandir | Keybuk: any chance of having /usr/bin/udevinfo and /lib/udev/cdrom_id in the initramfs? (Needed for casper) | 04:41 |
| Mithrandir | Keybuk: also, making boot=casper an alternative for boot=local in ./scripts/init-premount/udev would make me happy. | 04:42 |
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| Mithrandir | hmm, so, no response. Would anybody be inconvenienced if I uploaded an udev with those changes? | 05:58 |
| Keybuk | Mithrandir: because init doesn't export BOOT | 06:58 |
| Keybuk | if casper needs things in the initramfs, it should copy them itself with its own hook | 06:59 |
| Mithrandir | Keybuk: then it should use the same logic as init, not just source a file. | 07:00 |
| Mithrandir | uhm, even files which aren't part of the casper package? That'll break if something else copies them too. | 07:00 |
| Keybuk | actually, init should export that variable :) | 07:00 |
| Keybuk | Mithrandir: Depends | 07:00 |
| Keybuk | it won't break, the copy of the file will be the same | 07:00 |
| Mithrandir | ok, then it's fine. | 07:00 |
| Keybuk | I'll fix udev and initramfs-tools so that variable is exported rather than sourced | 07:01 |
| Keybuk | I think I only went with the source to avoid changing two packages at once | 07:01 |
| Keybuk | and didn't notice the boot= bit | 07:01 |
| Mithrandir | ook | 07:01 |
| Mithrandir | could you make boot=casper as an alternative for boot=local in udev as well? | 07:01 |
| Keybuk | sure | 07:02 |
| Mithrandir | thanks. | 07:02 |
| Keybuk | so, here's the $10,000,000 question | 07:02 |
| Keybuk | the bits you're using udev helpers for | 07:02 |
| Keybuk | do those really belong in the udev initramfs script? | 07:02 |
| Keybuk | ie. are you just getting a root filesystem mounted? | 07:02 |
| Mithrandir | yes, I am, but I don't think it's a usecase that udev itself should necessarily support. | 07:03 |
| Mithrandir | it's mount a cdrom and mount an cloop image off there. | 07:03 |
| Mithrandir | see http://people.ubuntu.com/~tfheen/bzr/casper/simplifiedlivecd/ | 07:03 |
| Keybuk | well, if udev has to know about "casper", it should probably know about all things | 07:03 |
| Keybuk | hmm | 07:04 |
| Mithrandir | specifically, http://people.ubuntu.com/~tfheen/bzr/casper/simplifiedlivecd/debian/casper.initramfs | 07:04 |
| Keybuk | don't use "modprobe -q cloop", use "modprobe -Qb cloop" | 07:04 |
| Mithrandir | I don't think that makes sense to make part of udev, even if written a bit more generaliised. | 07:05 |
| Keybuk | don't use the while/sleep combo, use "udevplug -W" | 07:05 |
| Mithrandir | I just copied this off the previous casper stuff, but will do | 07:05 |
| Keybuk | same for the unionfs modprobe | 07:05 |
| Keybuk | ok, I take your point ... everything in this script is basically "mounting" the filesystem | 07:05 |
| Keybuk | I'll add casper to the udev script as a copy of local | 07:06 |
| Mithrandir | it's similar to scripts/nfs and scripts/local | 07:06 |
| Keybuk | *nods* | 07:06 |
| Mithrandir | so since udev knows about those, I think it should know about casper as well. | 07:06 |
| Keybuk | right | 07:06 |
| Keybuk | agree | 07:06 |
| Mithrandir | coolie | 07:06 |
| Keybuk | I like your CD-ROM hunt | 07:07 |
| Keybuk | Kamion: we should use something like that in d-i rather than the devfs-reliance | 07:07 |
| Mithrandir | I copied it off code you sketched out for me. :-P | 07:07 |
| Keybuk | oh, right, yeah :P | 07:07 |
| Mithrandir | isn't it just modprobe -Q rather than -qQ? | 07:08 |
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| Keybuk | -Qb | 07:08 |
| Keybuk | -Q is -q plus even more quietness | 07:08 |
| Keybuk | -b allows the user to blacklist whatever follows | 07:08 |
| Mithrandir | ah | 07:08 |
| Keybuk | (ie. it allows it to be utterly consistent) | 07:08 |
| Mithrandir | that'll blow up, though. | 07:08 |
| Mithrandir | but sure. | 07:08 |
| Keybuk | so? we assume if they do blacklist something, they had a bloody good reason | 07:08 |
| Keybuk | it's good to be consistent about it | 07:09 |
| Mithrandir | can I assume that /dev/cloop0 will always be the name of cloop0, or do I have to query udev/sysfs for it? | 07:09 |
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| Mithrandir | reload/bzr pull | 07:12 |
| Keybuk | you should probably query it, I guess | 07:12 |
| Keybuk | the user could commit fantastic pedicide and rename them | 07:12 |
| Keybuk | or I could | 07:12 |
| BenC | Keybuk: hey, question for you in -devel | 07:12 |
| Keybuk | BenC: not that I know of, why? | 07:12 |
| Keybuk | ide-generic, bad | 07:13 |
| Keybuk | ide-core, probably ok | 07:13 |
| Mithrandir | keybuk: in which case I'd hop on the first plane to .uk and beat you with a stick. :-P | 07:13 |
| Keybuk | indeed | 07:13 |
| BenC | mainly because with ide.ko modular, none of the ide= hd*= kernel command line options are honored | 07:13 |
| BenC | since it expects them as module options | 07:13 |
| Keybuk | ah, heh | 07:14 |
| Keybuk | I don't know of any problems with making that built-in | 07:14 |
| Keybuk | I wish we built-in more stuff *cough* unix.ko | 07:14 |
| BenC | why isn't unix.ko built-in anyway? | 07:14 |
| Mithrandir | I think it's a legacy of Xu's reluctance to build anything into the kernel | 07:14 |
| BenC | I've no problem doing it, but I don't know the reason for having it modular in the first place | 07:15 |
| Mithrandir | he'd probably made ELF into a loadable module, if he could. | 07:15 |
| BenC | lol, ok, unix and ide will be built-in in -8.10 | 07:15 |
| Keybuk | \o/ | 07:15 |
| BenC | modularity can only go but so far | 07:16 |
| Mithrandir | Keybuk: what's the Right way to find an unused cloop node? | 07:16 |
| Keybuk | sodomy non sapiens | 07:17 |
| Keybuk | don't know much about those | 07:18 |
| Mithrandir | heh | 07:18 |
| crispin | Keybuk: btw, I only have about 30 mins now, tomorrow and wed I will have longer | 07:18 |
| Keybuk | losetup or something | 07:18 |
| Keybuk | crispin: that's ok, am ready for you now | 07:18 |
| crispin | k, so /dev/hda doesn't exist | 07:18 |
| Keybuk | crispin: cat /proc/modules ... and list off the first few for me | 07:18 |
| crispin | ide_generic, ide_cd, cdrom, sata_nv, generic | 07:18 |
| Keybuk | right | 07:19 |
| Keybuk | so that's screwyfic | 07:19 |
| BenC | heh, all three port architectures already had unix.o built-in | 07:19 |
| BenC | powerpc already had ide-core built-in | 07:19 |
| BenC | now they all match | 07:19 |
| Keybuk | crispin: echo $BOOT $ROOT | 07:19 |
| crispin | /dev/sda1 | 07:19 |
| Keybuk | BOOT="" ? | 07:19 |
| Keybuk | . conf/initramfs.conf | 07:20 |
| crispin | yep | 07:20 |
| Keybuk | echo $BOOT | 07:20 |
| crispin | local | 07:20 |
| Keybuk | cat /proc/cmdline | 07:20 |
| crispin | root=/dev/sda1 ro quiet splash | 07:21 |
| Kamion | BenC: you may need to tweak the d-i bits a bit when building in ide-core | 07:21 |
| Kamion | I'll certainly have to tweak debian-installer to compensate | 07:21 |
| Keybuk | crispin: ls scripts/init-premount | 07:21 |
| BenC | Kamion: yeah, I'll check that | 07:21 |
| crispin | udev thermal | 07:22 |
| BenC | Kamion: for ide-core, just match whatever ppc is doing (it has it built-in already) | 07:22 |
| Keybuk | crispin: ls scripts/init-top | 07:22 |
| crispin | usplash | 07:22 |
| Keybuk | ok ... | 07:23 |
| Kamion | BenC: right, I can fix the d-i side easily enough, although it's not as simple as matching because the pkg-lists files for the various architectures are often quite divergent | 07:23 |
| Keybuk | crispin: tail -2 scripts/init-premount/udev | 07:23 |
| crispin | \t;;\nesac | 07:23 |
| Mithrandir | Kamion: do you want me to fix the cdrom-detect similarly to what's in new-casper? | 07:23 |
| Kamion | Mithrandir: sure, if you like | 07:24 |
| Kamion | I was about to go and look at that | 07:24 |
| Kamion | ah, yeah, /sys/block querying. if you could keep the current behaviour as an else so that it can be trivially merged, that would be a bonus | 07:25 |
| Kamion | I made os-prober use /sys/block if it's there recently | 07:25 |
| Keybuk | crispin: ok ... then I'm bloody confused what's loaded ide-cd, cdrom and ide-generic | 07:25 |
| Kamion | (though not in preference to /dev/discs; should probably fix that) | 07:25 |
| Keybuk | crispin: ls /sys/bus/ide | 07:26 |
| crispin | devices drivers | 07:26 |
| Keybuk | crispin: ls /sys/bus/ide/devices | 07:27 |
| crispin | 1.0 1.1 | 07:27 |
| Keybuk | k... | 07:27 |
| crispin | (btw that list of modules I attached to the bug is what I have loaded here) | 07:27 |
| Keybuk | could you reboot, and this time remove quiet and splash from the kernel command-line and add "break=premount" to it instead | 07:27 |
| crispin | yep, done, am at a prompt | 07:28 |
| Keybuk | ok | 07:28 |
| Keybuk | scripts/init-premount/thermal | 07:28 |
| Keybuk | (to stop laptop dying) | 07:28 |
| crispin | this isn't a laptop .... | 07:29 |
| Keybuk | could you now check /proc/modules and see what's there (should be not much) | 07:29 |
| Keybuk | k, do it anyway <g> | 07:29 |
| Mithrandir | Keybuk: that means we need /lib/udev/cdrom_id in udev-udeb too | 07:30 |
| crispin | I have 9 modules in there, nothing hardware related, it appears to be just the fb stuff and a couple of others | 07:30 |
| Keybuk | Mithrandir: k, can you bug me an e-mail | 07:30 |
| Mithrandir | Keybuk: sure | 07:30 |
| Keybuk | crispin: ok ... cat /proc/cmdline | 07:30 |
| crispin | root=/dev/sda1 ro break=premount | 07:31 |
| Keybuk | right | 07:31 |
| Keybuk | run udevd --daemon | 07:31 |
| BenC | Kamion result is that ide-core udeb is going away | 07:31 |
| Keybuk | and for the next command or two, watch for anything being printed on the console | 07:31 |
| Kamion | BenC: right, hence necessary adjustment in d-i | 07:31 |
| Keybuk | if it talks about ide, it's bad | 07:31 |
| crispin | ok, udevd run, nothing on console | 07:31 |
| Keybuk | ls /sys/bus/ide/devices /sys/bus/scsi/devices /sys/bus/i2o/devices /sys/bus/usb/devices /sys/bus/ieee1394/devices | 07:32 |
| crispin | I get 'no such file or directory' for all of them, /sys is mounted | 07:33 |
| Keybuk | good | 07:33 |
| Keybuk | udevplug -Cmem -Cmisc -Ctty -Cvc | 07:33 |
| crispin | run, nothing on console | 07:34 |
| Keybuk | k, ls /sys/block | 07:34 |
| Keybuk | is there anything that's not ram* ? | 07:34 |
| crispin | no, just ram0 -> ram15 | 07:34 |
| Keybuk | ok | 07:35 |
| Keybuk | grep 0x01 /sys/bus/pci/devices/*/class | 07:35 |
| crispin | returned 2 files, 0000:00:09:0 -> 0x01018a and 0000:01:09.0 -> 0x018000 | 07:36 |
| Keybuk | ok.... | 07:36 |
| Keybuk | cat /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:00:09:0/modalias | 07:36 |
| Keybuk | cat /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:01:09:0/modalias | 07:36 |
| Keybuk | (both) | 07:36 |
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| crispin | urgh, do you need to the full output from these files ? | 07:37 |
| Keybuk | yes | 07:37 |
| Keybuk | exactly | 07:37 |
| crispin | :-) | 07:37 |
| crispin | the first is: pci:v000010DEd00000065sv0000147Bsd00001C01bc01sc01i8a | 07:38 |
| crispin | second is: pci:v00001095d00003112sv00001095sd00003112bc01sc80i00 | 07:39 |
| Keybuk | ok, that's kinda interesting | 07:40 |
| Keybuk | the second one is a Sil 3112 SATA controller? | 07:41 |
| crispin | sounds about right | 07:41 |
| Keybuk | the first one is an nVidia NFORCE IDE controller? | 07:41 |
| crispin | I have a pci sata controller on an nforce m'board | 07:41 |
| Keybuk | right.... | 07:42 |
| Keybuk | could you: echo blacklist ide-generic > /etc/modprobe.d/test | 07:42 |
| crispin | the disk hangs off the sata card | 07:42 |
| crispin | yep | 07:42 |
| Keybuk | then udevplug -Bpci -Iclass=0x01* | 07:42 |
| crispin | ok, lots of output on the console this time | 07:43 |
| Keybuk | k, once done, could you cat /proc/modules | 07:43 |
| crispin | new stuff in there is scsi_mod, libata, sata_sil, ide_core, amd74xxx, generic, sata_nv, cdrom, ide_cd | 07:44 |
| Keybuk | ok | 07:44 |
| Keybuk | you have an IDE CD-ROM drive hanging off your motherboard | 07:44 |
| Keybuk | but the drives are hanging off your SATA PCI controller? | 07:44 |
| crispin | yep, 2 of them | 07:44 |
| crispin | exactly | 07:45 |
| crispin | (well, one drive off the sata pci controller) | 07:45 |
| crispin | interestingly, in the console output was: | 07:45 |
| crispin | ata1: SATA link up 1.5 Gps (SStatus 113) | 07:45 |
| crispin | ata1: dev 0 not supported, ignoring | 07:46 |
| Keybuk | right | 07:46 |
| Keybuk | could you check for me: | 07:46 |
| Keybuk | ls /dev/hd* | 07:46 |
| Keybuk | ls /dev/s* | 07:46 |
| crispin | /dev/hdd /dev/hdc, no s* stuff | 07:46 |
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| Keybuk | k, so to recap | 07:47 |
| Keybuk | you have a computer with an nVidia NFORCE IDE controller on the motherboard | 07:47 |
| Keybuk | and an Sis 3112 SATA controller PCI card | 07:47 |
| Keybuk | there's a CD-ROM hanging off the IDE controller | 07:47 |
| Keybuk | and the hard-drive you want to boot off hanging off the SATA controller | 07:47 |
| crispin | yes, (except I have 2 cd rom drives hanging off the m'board ide controller) | 07:48 |
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| Keybuk | both controllers appear find under /sys with the right MODALIAS | 07:48 |
| Keybuk | and udev loads the right modules for them both | 07:48 |
| Keybuk | (I think) | 07:48 |
| BenC | is nforce supported in kernel now, or is it just ide-generic? | 07:48 |
| BenC | or are you using nforce drivers from nvidia? | 07:48 |
| crispin | the sata_nv seems an odd thing to load, the m'board isn't sata | 07:49 |
| Keybuk | well, he has a sata_nv module -- I assume that's the real thing? | 07:49 |
| Keybuk | what's amd74xxx ? | 07:49 |
| BenC | so what's the issue? | 07:50 |
| Keybuk | hmm | 07:50 |
| Keybuk | BenC: his hard-drive doesn't appear | 07:50 |
| crispin | I've no idea, I'm just using the stock ubuntu kernels, nothing changed in them at all | 07:50 |
| Keybuk | no uevent fromt he kernel for it, looks like the kernel never detects it | 07:50 |
| Keybuk | (on the sata_sil bus) | 07:50 |
| Keybuk | crispin: hmm, we don't ship either sata_nv or amd74xxx | 07:50 |
| Keybuk | are you SURE you've not got some nvidia binary drivers in there? | 07:50 |
| BenC | we do ship sata_nv | 07:50 |
| BenC | is this breezy or dapper? | 07:51 |
| crispin | I do that the restricted modules package installed | 07:51 |
| Keybuk | oh, sorry, I can see it now | 07:51 |
| crispin | BenC: daper | 07:51 |
| BenC | 2.6.15 kernel? | 07:51 |
| crispin | yep | 07:51 |
| BenC | sata_nv is in there I know | 07:51 |
| crispin | BenC: btw this is bug 20807, it has my lspci and other stuff in there | 07:51 |
| BenC | amd74xx is too | 07:51 |
| Keybuk | modinfo on sata_nv has | 07:51 |
| Keybuk | alias: pci:v000010DEd*sv*sd*bc01sc01i* | 07:52 |
| Keybuk | so it will be loaded for all nVidia storage controllers | 07:52 |
| BenC | and sata_nv should support ATAPI, so it's doing the right thing to support the cdrom's | 07:52 |
| BenC | ok, so sata_sil is the problem? | 07:52 |
| Keybuk | yeah, it looks like it's doing the right things | 07:52 |
| Keybuk | either sata_sil is the problem, or the combination of both is an unhappy one | 07:53 |
| crispin | hmm, guys, I need to leave now, I'll be back for longer tomorrow | 07:53 |
| Keybuk | ok, I'm around most of the day tomorrow | 07:53 |
| BenC | it sees the disk | 07:53 |
| BenC | ok | 07:53 |
| crispin | well, it will be roughly the same time, I am at work till about 6pm GMT | 07:53 |
| BenC | dmesg shows the disk Keybuk | 07:53 |
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| BenC | sda 160Gigs | 07:54 |
| BenC | [4294678.458000] Attached scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 | 07:54 |
| Keybuk | BenC: where did you get the dmesg? | 07:54 |
| BenC | wait, that's breezy dmesg :/ | 07:54 |
| Keybuk | yeah | 07:54 |
| Keybuk | breezy! | 07:54 |
| Keybuk | crispin ata1: SATA link up 1.5 Gps (SStatus 113) | 07:54 |
| Keybuk | crispin ata1: dev 0 not supported, ignoring | 07:54 |
| Keybuk | didn't know whether that could be relevant or not | 07:55 |
| BenC | sounds like it | 07:55 |
| Keybuk | tomorrow I'll get him to try only loading one of the two drivers, and see what happens then | 07:57 |
| Keybuk | that'd at least rule out interaction | 07:57 |
| Keybuk | could be simply that the sata_sil is busted on current kernel | 07:57 |
| BenC | the only case where the dmesg would look like this is if dev->id is not an ata device | 07:59 |
| BenC | which is a bitmask check | 08:00 |
| BenC | this is all ata core stuff | 08:00 |
| BenC | the message isn't from sata_sil, but I guess it's possible that it is not giving libata the right info | 08:01 |
| Keybuk | right | 08:02 |
| Keybuk | interesting | 08:02 |
| Keybuk | could be, yeah | 08:06 |
| Keybuk | or that sata_nv has stamped all over it | 08:06 |
| BenC | [libata sata_sil] fix merge related issues | 08:20 |
| BenC | wow, this is a complicated merge | 08:21 |
| BenC | for git, not for me | 08:21 |
| Keybuk | hehe | 08:22 |
| Mithrandir | generating the bootcharts takes forever on the live cd.. | 08:23 |
| BenC | the ata updates will be in -8.10 | 08:41 |
| BenC | Keybuk: I replied to his bug report to test -8.10 when it's built | 08:41 |
| Keybuk | k | 08:42 |
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