[04:19] <theCore> it is quiet today ...
[04:20] <Madpilot> very
[04:20] <LaserJock> yes
[05:01] <theCore> huh?
[05:26] <theCore> as everyone SdPlissken has nothing to say ...
[05:28] <LaserJock> pretty quite
[05:28] <LaserJock> quiet I mean
[05:33] <Kingbahamut> lol
[05:33] <Kingbahamut> its still quiet 
[05:37] <Madpilot> Kingbahamut: I noticed that you've switched the gwos wiki over to CC-PD - is that going to be the permanent license?
[05:38] <Kingbahamut> aye it is Mp
[05:38] <Kingbahamut> in accordance with discussion on mdke and myself
[05:39] <Kingbahamut> why do you ask mp?
[05:39] <Madpilot> you're ahead of the official docs, then - I don't think there is a final decsion as to licencing for them... :(
[05:39] <Madpilot> just curious
[05:39] <Kingbahamut> I try to be as acommodating as possible Madpilot 
[05:39] <Kingbahamut> may not always work the way I want it to 
[05:41] <LaserJock> I think I'm going to have to GPL the Ubuntu Packaging Guide
[05:42] <Kingbahamut> hmmmm, why?
[05:42] <LaserJock> I don't like doing it but it is the way it has to be
[05:42] <LaserJock> because all of the Debian docs are GPL
[05:42] <Kingbahamut> seems viable then 
[05:43] <Kingbahamut> Ive rarely understood the relationship between Debian and certain documentation 
[05:44] <LaserJock> I don't get why they don't use GFDL
[05:44] <LaserJock> other than maybe they package their docs, but that shouldn't matter
[06:26] <LaserJock> anybody running dapper?
[06:27] <Kingbahamut> not yet 
[06:27] <Madpilot> nope
[06:28] <Kingbahamut> will be on my CPx test lappy by weeks end though 
[06:32] <LaserJock> hmm, yelp isn't working for me
[06:36] <LaserJock> well, I'll try my breezy chroot
[06:40] <LaserJock> hmm, works fine in my chroot
[06:40] <LaserJock> must be dapper
[09:15] <rob1> LaserJock_, I am
[09:27] <rob1> Burgundavia, do you have ops in #ubuntu?
[09:30] <robitaille> rob1 Burgundavia  is probably in bed :)  (and has been IRC idle for 31 hours...)
[09:31] <rob1> yeah
[09:31] <rob1> I need one of the #ubuntu ops to remove a couple of bans
[09:32] <robitaille> I think some of the Ubuntu developpers have ops...
[09:32] <rob1> I think they are all sleeping
[09:32] <robitaille> pitti is around
[09:32] <Madpilot> bob2 was around a little while ago, in #ubuntu & -offtopic
[09:32] <rob1> he is marked as away currently
[02:40] <jjesse> morning :)
[04:46] <jsgotangco> hey all
[04:55] <jjesse> monrning jsgotangco 
[04:57] <jsgotangco> hey jjesse how's things?
[04:58] <jjesse> surviving
[04:58] <jjesse> moved from an older as/400 to a new one over the weekend and it didn't go smoothly
[04:58] <jsgotangco> ouch i can imagine, they are unpredictable beasts
[04:59] <jsgotangco> i wonder though why move to a new system, an as/400 lasts forever
[04:59] <jsgotangco> heh
[05:46] <jsgotangco> good night
[05:46] <mdke> night
[07:04] <LaserJock> rob1: still around?
[07:04] <mdke> lo LaserJock 
[07:05] <LaserJock> hi mdke 
[07:05] <LaserJock> mdke: you run dapper?
[07:05] <mdke> LaserJock, yes, although not right now
[07:06] <LaserJock> yelp/gnome-help won't start for me. I was wondering if it was just me or if it was a real bug
[07:07] <mdke> will try this evening
[07:07] <mdke> up to date?
[07:08] <LaserJock> almost
[07:09] <mdke> ok i'll check when I get home and ping you :)
[07:09] <mdke> gtg now
[07:10] <LaserJock> k, cya
[09:04] <mdke> LaserJock, works here
[09:07] <jjesse> pardon the stupid question: ive never really used yelp, but does the anouncement mean that before today you couldn't print a help page?
[09:07] <mdke> jjesse, yep :)
[09:07] <jjesse> that sounds like something that should be available from the beginning doesn't it?
[09:08] <mdke> yep
[09:08] <jjesse> wow
[09:08] <mdke> yelp is a bit sucky
[09:09] <LaserJock> mdke: so on your dapper gnome-help starts fine?
[09:09] <mdke> LaserJock, yes
[09:10] <LaserJock> well, that's odd
[09:11] <LaserJock> ok, well it works in my dapper chroot so it must be some local config
[09:19] <mpt> jjesse, fyi, you also can't search :-)
[09:19] <jjesse> wow that really sucks
[09:20] <LaserJock> but it displays docbook! very slowly
[09:22] <Burgwork> jjesse, yelp is very much a neglected child
[09:22] <jjesse> but documentation should be the killer for an open source project
[09:26] <mpt> yes, those highly-trained highly-paid volunteer writers can kick MSDN's behind
[09:26] <mpt> ;-)