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| BenC | infinity: ping | 01:47 |
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| infinity | .gnop : CenB | 01:56 |
| infinity | All reports on the vga16fb change have been positive so far. At least, I didn't seem to break any already-working setups. | 01:56 |
| infinity | So, I should push you the patch for -8.10, and update {edu,ku,u}buntu-artwork | 01:57 |
| BenC | hey | 01:57 |
| BenC | got a nice bogl assertion for you | 01:57 |
| infinity | Ah-ha. | 01:57 |
| infinity | Line? | 01:58 |
| BenC | bogl-vga16.c:437 | 01:58 |
| infinity | Lies. That's the one I fixed in -25. | 01:58 |
| BenC | I dist-upgraded to dapper to make sure it wasn't a conflict somewhere | 01:59 |
| BenC | maybe I should rerun update-initramfs to be sure again | 01:59 |
| infinity | update-alternatives --display usplash-artwork.so | 02:00 |
| BenC | I know usplash 0.25-1 is in the initrd | 02:01 |
| BenC | cpio'd it just to make sure | 02:01 |
| infinity | That assertion will fail in two instances: | 02:02 |
| infinity | a) bug in the code (fixed in 0.1-25) | 02:02 |
| infinity | b) artwork too big for display area. | 02:02 |
| infinity | The latter could happen if your usplash-artwork.so isn't the right one, but if you're seeing mjg59's scary line art, it SHOULD be right. | 02:02 |
| infinity | But, if all else fails and we dunno WTF is going on with your machine, I'll just give you a debug build with a bunch of printfs to tell us WHAT it's asserting ain't true. | 02:03 |
| BenC | update-initramfs didn't help | 02:08 |
| infinity | Yeah, no big shock there. | 02:08 |
| infinity | You should be able to reproduce the same assertion at a command line in a VC, no need to reboot and do it from the initramfs. | 02:08 |
| BenC | it just shows a black screen, but I can see where the scanlines end, and it looks normal | 02:08 |
| BenC | console is still normal | 02:08 |
| infinity | Unless your VCs are still misbehaving and staying black forever after usplash runs. | 02:08 |
| BenC | they do, but switching to X and back fixes it | 02:09 |
| infinity | And then shows the assertion? | 02:09 |
| BenC | yeah | 02:09 |
| infinity | Spiff. | 02:09 |
| BenC | anything I can test? | 02:11 |
| infinity | 'Sec. | 02:11 |
| infinity | http://cerberus.0c3.net/~adconrad/usplash_0.1-24.1_i386.deb | 02:12 |
| infinity | There's the printf-laden build I was using to find the stupid bug in the first place. | 02:12 |
| infinity | Should give us xx,yy,yres,xres,pixmapx,pixmapy on your machine, so we can at least see why the assert is failing. | 02:12 |
| infinity | If it's the pixamp size, that's easy. You have cruft ans we need to clean it up. | 02:13 |
| infinity | If it's yy, it's a programming bug. | 02:13 |
| infinity | If it's bogl_yres, we have real issues I need to figure out. :) | 02:13 |
| BenC | FYI, I had edubuntu installed on here | 02:13 |
| infinity | Ah-ha. | 02:14 |
| BenC | is there a pointer to the artwork? | 02:14 |
| infinity | update-alternatives --display usplash-artwork.so | 02:14 |
| infinity | dpkg --purge edubuntu-artwork-usplash. Or wait an hour or two for me to get around to uploading the smaller pixmaps. | 02:14 |
| BenC | ok, updated to usplash version | 02:15 |
| BenC | ... | 02:15 |
| BenC | ok, it displayed! | 02:16 |
| BenC | has some line artifacys, but much better than the old one | 02:16 |
| BenC | working on boot too | 02:17 |
| BenC | it's not perfect, but it is so much better than before | 02:17 |
| BenC | I can live with it enough to not do vga=771 anymore | 02:17 |
| BenC | you should add that to you .txt :) | 02:18 |
| infinity | Artifacting?.. Poop. | 02:19 |
| infinity | Maybe that's your tvout still hating us. | 02:19 |
| infinity | Woudl you test it on a normal monitor and make sure it looks right there? | 02:19 |
| infinity | s/Woudl/Could/ | 02:20 |
| infinity | First morning smoke setting in.. Typing hard. | 02:20 |
| === dilinger .oO(artifacting poop? freak.) | ||
| infinity | If it looks okay on a real monitor, I'll stamp is "good enough", push the new artwork out for all three dists, and you can patch -8.10 in time for flight-2. | 02:22 |
| BenC | when's flight 2? | 02:26 |
| BenC | I was thinking -7.9 was going to be flight 2 | 02:27 |
| BenC | send me the vga16fb patch and I'll merge it | 02:27 |
| infinity | Well, flight-2 hasn't happened yet, so if you upload -8.10, that'll have to be hammered into shape for it. | 02:28 |
| infinity | concordia.ubuntu.com:~adconrad/vga16fb.patch | 02:28 |
| infinity | Applies to drivers/video/vga16fb.c | 02:28 |
| BenC | I've been marking all bugs about vga16fb with "vga16fb" in the status whiteboard | 02:29 |
| BenC | so I'll be pushing a mass "please test flight 2" to all of them in -8.10 gets in it | 02:30 |
| BenC | if I can close all the vga16fb bugs, you will be my bestest friend, you can come tip cows with me in my front yard and everything | 02:31 |
| infinity | You have cows? | 02:32 |
| BenC | the largest portion of the land my house is on is leased to some people that raise cows for beef | 02:32 |
| BenC | my house is surrounded by pasture except for the driveway leading out | 02:32 |
| infinity | Ahh, so they're not, strictly speaking, your cows. | 02:33 |
| BenC | nah, but they are like our pets :) | 02:33 |
| infinity | Does land ownership give you the right to tip them? | 02:33 |
| infinity | I'm not sure how this works. :) | 02:33 |
| BenC | I'd have to check the county by-laws, there may be a loophole :) | 02:33 |
| BenC | where'd you get these margins from? | 02:34 |
| BenC | one thing I know is that lilo graphic splash screen works on my tvout | 02:35 |
| infinity | modedb.c | 02:35 |
| infinity | I was originally fiddling with calculating them by hand, but then decided to just go with modedb.c, assuming it may be "right". | 02:35 |
| infinity | I may fall back to doing it by hand, if we can find something more correct. | 02:35 |
| BenC | one thing I thought was odd is that I am at 640x400-70 | 02:36 |
| BenC | I was expecting 60HZ | 02:36 |
| infinity | That's expected. | 02:36 |
| infinity | You shouldn't drop down to 60Hz until you hit 640x480 and above. | 02:37 |
| BenC | less scanlines == more refresh? | 02:37 |
| infinity | Yeah, that's the basic theory. | 02:38 |
| BenC | it's been a long time since I messed with video modes, back when I was working on an HD set-top-box | 02:38 |
| infinity | Longer for me, I'm sure. | 02:38 |
| infinity | It was discouraging to discover I remember pretty much nothing about it. | 02:39 |
| BenC | but all of those were 540p and greater, so I didn't get a chance to mess with low modes like this :) | 02:39 |
| infinity | Anyhow, this seems to work everywhere 640x480 worked (so far, no regression reports), and works a few places where it didn't, so.. | 02:39 |
| infinity | I'm calling it "Good Enough", and if we find some spare time, we can look for better timings to make it perfect. | 02:40 |
| infinity | I'm going to fix up the artwork stuff right now. | 02:40 |
| infinity | See if we can't get some pretty artwork back for flight-2. | 02:41 |
| BenC | sweet | 02:50 |
| BenC | commited, and pushed | 02:51 |
| infinity | Hrm, I wonder if I should update the two -artwork-usplash packages to use update-initrafms -u in the postinst. Probably. | 02:51 |
| === infinity does that too. | ||
| BenC | yeah | 02:51 |
| infinity | I wonder how many times we'll rebuild initramfs on a big upgrade. | 02:51 |
| infinity | I wish we had a good way to do post-hooks... | 02:51 |
| infinity | Hrm. | 02:51 |
| infinity | Wait. | 02:51 |
| BenC | gziping that is starting to get slow | 02:52 |
| infinity | I could do post-hooks in apt. | 02:52 |
| infinity | Doesn't work for dpkg, though. | 02:52 |
| infinity | (raw dpkg, that is) | 02:52 |
| BenC | how does ldconfig do it? | 02:52 |
| BenC | isn't there an ldconfig post-hook for libraries? | 02:52 |
| infinity | If there is, it's a special-case in dpkg itself. | 02:52 |
| BenC | nope, don't see it | 02:53 |
| infinity | But in apt, you can do DPkg::Post-Invoke stuff, that runs after the dpkg run. | 02:53 |
| infinity | Not really "good enough", though, I guess. Installing kernels with raw dpkg is a pretty common occurence. | 02:54 |
| infinity | Meh. I'm still seeing that failed asserion every time I do update-initramfs, too. | 02:54 |
| infinity | [17311616.280000] Assertion failed! qc->n_elem > 0,drivers/scsi/libata-core.c,ata_fill_sg,line=2504 | 02:55 |
| BenC | is it causing a failure? | 02:56 |
| infinity | No. Just a fright. :) | 03:01 |
| BenC | yeah, it looks pretty scary :) | 03:01 |
| infinity | Also, 'strace -f update-initramfs -u' is a bad idea. Don't do it. | 03:01 |
| infinity | Still going on the console I ran it on. | 03:01 |
| infinity | I had hopes of catching the Assertion in situ, but that seems hopeless with an strace this... Long. :) | 03:02 |
| BenC | -o strace.out | 03:03 |
| BenC | helps | 03:03 |
| infinity | Sure, but then I don't get the printk in the middle of the strace output. | 03:04 |
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| CataEnry | hi :) | 09:48 |
| Mithrandir | any idea why a hoary box is giving me shitty raid resync speeds? 8MB/sec, driver is AMD8111 | 01:01 |
| fabbione | Mithrandir: ide or scsi? | 01:05 |
| fabbione | or sata? | 01:05 |
| Mithrandir | IDE | 01:05 |
| Mithrandir | PATA | 01:05 |
| fabbione | do you have dma enabled? | 01:05 |
| Mithrandir | hdparm claims so | 01:05 |
| Mithrandir | hda and hdb, which sucks, I know, but still. | 01:05 |
| fabbione | check dmesg... there are some cases in which raid turns off DMA to ensure proper raid resync | 01:06 |
| fabbione | and i highly suggest NOT to turn it on while it is resyncing | 01:06 |
| Mithrandir | it doesn't say anything about turning it off | 01:07 |
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| HrdwrBoB | Mithrandir: hda->hdb is bad | 01:42 |
| Mithrandir | hd13:05 < Mithrandir> hda and hdb, which sucks, I know, but still. | 01:42 |
| HrdwrBoB | I'd say that's a large portion of the problem | 01:42 |
| HrdwrBoB | yeah | 01:42 |
| Mithrandir | it's not. | 01:42 |
| Mithrandir | you can still get quite good performance. | 01:42 |
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| zul | heylo | 02:26 |
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| Mithrandir | BenC: I wonder if the devmapper snapshot target is broken (at least with cloops) | 03:29 |
| Mithrandir | BenC: both Colin and I are seeing really weird stuff with the live cd; FS corruption, it looks like | 03:30 |
| BenC | Mithrandir: ok, I'll check the cloop patches from breezy | 03:31 |
| Mithrandir | BenC: please do. Breezy works for me at least. | 03:31 |
| Mithrandir | BenC: we're using the snapshot target, backed with a cow device in ramfs. | 03:31 |
| Mithrandir | it works in breezy. :-) | 03:32 |
| Kamion | dm linear doesn't appear to cause corruption | 03:34 |
| fabbione | BenC: when you included cloop, did you take it from breezy or upstream? | 03:35 |
| BenC | I took a fresh upstream | 03:35 |
| fabbione | BenC: ok | 03:35 |
| fabbione | take it from breezy and the problem will be solved | 03:35 |
| fabbione | there is an extra fix in breezy exactly for that problem | 03:35 |
| fabbione | that upstream did reject as: "It works here you fuckheads" | 03:36 |
| BenC | would have been easier if that patch was seperate from the main one :) | 03:36 |
| fabbione | if you find our patch and upstream in the same version you should be able to get just the fix to the device mapper you need | 03:36 |
| fabbione | BenC: i fully agree... | 03:36 |
| BenC | I'll find part it needs and just patch it in | 03:36 |
| fabbione | it was at my second / third kernel upload | 03:36 |
| fabbione | i admit i didn't have my clear at that time yet | 03:37 |
| fabbione | and forgot about it.. | 03:37 |
| BenC | hehe, no problem :) | 03:37 |
| BenC | took my couple of months before I was felt comfortable with the build system and baz | 03:37 |
| infinity | You got comfortable with baz? | 03:38 |
| infinity | Now that bzr is the way of the future, I'm allowed to talk shit about baz/tla publically, right? | 03:38 |
| fabbione | oh at that time was not even in ba | 03:39 |
| fabbione | baz | 03:39 |
| BenC | Mithrandir: fortunately I am doing -8.10 today, so I'll get that patch in there | 03:39 |
| infinity | And conveniently, Flight-2 is now blocked on -8.10 | 03:39 |
| infinity | Which means I'm guaranteed to get my vga16fb fixes. :) | 03:39 |
| infinity | Yay. | 03:39 |
| BenC | brb | 03:40 |
| === infinity really goes ot bed now, so he can get more LRM crack done in the morning. | ||
| jbailey | BenC: Do you need a bug filed for the asm symlink on ppc in the headers package | 03:40 |
| infinity | 'Night, guys. | 03:40 |
| jbailey | ? | 03:40 |
| BenC | nah, already fixed in -8.10 | 03:40 |
| BenC | oh, and we get correct EXTRAVERSION now too in linux-headers packages | 03:40 |
| fabbione | bbl | 03:41 |
| jbailey | BenC: Lovely, thanks. I'll wait for that then, before doing more on klibc. | 03:41 |
| Kamion | gah, jackass no longer has 2.6.9-7 source, which is where that patch came in | 03:42 |
| BenC | I can get it from baz | 03:47 |
| Kamion | doesn't 2.6.9-7 predate baz? | 03:48 |
| BenC | yeah, I but I'll diff the patch against pristine and find it | 03:48 |
| Kamion | seems to be http://people.debian.org/~cjwatson/tmp/cloop-dm.patch if I'm reading recent cloop source package changes correctly | 03:51 |
| BenC | diff between breezy and dapper cloop.c is trivial | 03:53 |
| BenC | yeah, that while loop was the change | 03:53 |
| BenC | I'm just going to copy the breezy cloop.c | 03:54 |
| BenC | Kamion, Muthrandir: consider this fixed for -8.10, which will be uploaded in about 5 hours | 03:57 |
| Mithrandir | BenC: ok, thanks. | 03:58 |
| mjg59 | Someone still needs to track down what broke suspend | 03:58 |
| mjg59 | I'm lacking the time to do a git bisect righ tnow | 03:59 |
| mjg59 | I suspect it's somewhere in IDE - things seem more reliable if I use the libata driver | 04:00 |
| Kamion | BenC: great, thanks | 04:00 |
| BenC | hmm, wonder if I have any machines that support suspend | 04:01 |
| BenC | can I susped a G4? | 04:01 |
| jbailey | BenC: I think I suspended my pegasos. | 04:05 |
| jbailey | It might have been STD, though. | 04:05 |
| BenC | is there a prefered way to suspend? I've actually never done it on anything (my laptop didn't work) | 04:05 |
| zul | BenC: can you pull in mine stuff as well? thanks | 04:08 |
| mjg59 | It may well be an x86-specific issue | 04:10 |
| makx | suspend to ram is more likely not to work on my experience | 04:12 |
| makx | suspend to disk is not that fast but already nice. | 04:12 |
| Kamion | my G4 PowerBook suspends to RAM fine | 04:14 |
| Kamion | I normally just press the power button, although closing the lid works if your lid is less wobbly than mine | 04:14 |
| BenC | zul: URL again? | 04:22 |
| BenC | is there a script I can run to try suspend? | 04:22 |
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| BenC | lamont: elilo with initramfs support ready yet? | 04:24 |
| BenC | oh wait, I got that elilo.efi from you didn't I | 04:24 |
| BenC | I'll try it when I boot -8.10 | 04:24 |
| mjg59 | makx: The specific case is that our 2.6.15 kernels have broken suspend | 04:25 |
| mjg59 | At least on x86 with IDE | 04:25 |
| mjg59 | Suspend to RAM works fine on most laptops with 2.6.11 | 04:26 |
| mjg59 | Uh, 2.6.12 | 04:26 |
| BenC | well my G4 has IDE, so I should atleast be able to tell you whether it's x86 specific or not | 04:26 |
| zul | BenC: http://zulinux.homelinux.net/git/ubuntu-2.6.git | 04:27 |
| makx | mjg59: ive an old broken gericom laptop which never suspended to ram. | 04:32 |
| makx | anyway quite surpring that this bad hardware still lives. | 04:33 |
| BenC | zul: just the efi patch? | 04:33 |
| BenC | zul: can you pull from me to fix merges? | 04:34 |
| lamont__ | BenC: thanks for testing | 04:35 |
| lamont__ | elilo was uploaded to debian, haven't checked to see where it got with ubuntu | 04:35 |
| fabbione | lamont__: do you have any idea why util-linux -2 didn't get autosynced? | 04:37 |
| lamont__ | no clue | 04:40 |
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| zul | BenC: sure..i can do that tonight when i get home.. | 04:41 |
| zul | or i can try now.. | 04:43 |
| BenC | got it | 04:43 |
| zul | nifty | 04:44 |
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| BenC | lamont: I installed the elilo from debian (3.4-pre5-2) | 05:43 |
| BenC | it booted my ia64, going to try initramfs now | 05:44 |
| zul | BenC: i fixed up my tree.. | 06:03 |
| jbailey | BenC: Apparnetly there's klibc segfaults. | 06:12 |
| jbailey | I haven't tried stuff yet. | 06:12 |
| jbailey | (On conference call, lagging) | 06:12 |
| BenC | it got into the initramfs, and yes, looked like there was a segv of some kind | 06:18 |
| BenC | it's progress though | 06:19 |
| Mithrandir | hmm, is usplash broken in the current initramfs? | 06:21 |
| BenC | depends, what does broken look like to you? :) | 06:22 |
| Mithrandir | doesn't show anything at att, just spits out "0" (no \n, even) when run by hand in the initramfs | 06:23 |
| Mithrandir | this is the live cd, so there might be a lot of other things broken, which is why I ask if it's known-broken before investigating | 06:24 |
| BenC | not sure about that one, guess you need to ask infinity | 06:26 |
| Mithrandir | mhm. | 06:27 |
| Mithrandir | he's asleep now, though. Hopefully. | 06:27 |
| BenC | shouldn't be broken, afaik | 06:27 |
| Mithrandir | ok | 06:27 |
| BenC | but there is the 640x400 change with vga16fb that is being coordinated with my -8.10 kernel upload | 06:27 |
| BenC | make sure it has 0.25-1 usplash | 06:27 |
| Mithrandir | do you mean 0.1-26? | 06:28 |
| BenC | yeah, that's it :) | 06:28 |
| BenC | -26 may be expecting new kernel, I'd have to ask infinity about that | 06:29 |
| BenC | lame, I cannot even peruse alsa bug tracker without an account | 06:30 |
| BenC | nm, seems they have guest login | 06:30 |
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| BenC | this sucks | 07:08 |
| BenC | because our ide is modular, none of the ide kernel command line options are honored (ide=nodma, ide=reverse, hdc=remap, etc...) | 07:09 |
| BenC | they have to be module options, but that defeats the purpose of people using them (e.g. for booting the install cd) | 07:09 |
| === BenC wonders why we can't have built-in ide-core anyway | ||
| === Kamion looks at the comment in http://lwn.net/Articles/162853/ asking distros not to ship bcm403x yet | ||
| Kamion | although I guess it means more "don't ship it in releases yet" | 07:29 |
| BenC | yeah, it's only there for testing | 07:35 |
| BenC | it will probably get pulled for no other reason than we have no way to include firmware yet anyway | 07:36 |
| Kamion | mm, I was wondering about that | 07:37 |
| zul | BenC: i can help out there if you want | 07:38 |
| Mithrandir | BenC: ETA on kernel upload? | 09:21 |
| BenC | couple hours | 09:27 |
| mjg59 | zul: Around? | 09:32 |
| zul | mjg59: yo | 09:38 |
| mjg59 | zul: You've got a Latitude X1, right? | 09:39 |
| zul | indeed | 09:39 |
| zul | what do you want me to test? | 09:39 |
| mjg59 | Do you have backlight problems if you close it at a console? | 09:39 |
| zul | i havent tried or really havent noticed, i can try it tonight and let you know | 09:40 |
| BenC | is that the radeon backlight problem? | 09:40 |
| mjg59 | No, intel | 09:42 |
| mjg59 | zul: Basically, switch to a console, close the lid, open it, check if the backlight is on or not | 09:43 |
| zul | ok cool | 09:47 |
| zul | ill let you know when i get home | 09:47 |
| BenC | zul: I have something you can work on, if you want | 09:50 |
| BenC | #18456, creating a linux-image-dbg package with unstripped, uncompressed vmlinux in it for OProfile and such | 09:51 |
| BenC | mainly just for i386 and amd64 | 09:51 |
| zul | BenC: sure.. | 09:57 |
| BenC | would probably be best handled in debian/post-install like the linux-headers packages are | 09:57 |
| BenC | zul: thanks | 09:57 |
| fabbione | hey Ben | 10:00 |
| BenC | hey fabbione | 10:00 |
| fabbione | BenC: we need to schedule an amd64-generic kernel built as _i386.deb | 10:00 |
| fabbione | doko was asking for it and some users too | 10:00 |
| BenC | for 32-bit userland and 64-bit kernel? | 10:01 |
| fabbione | yes | 10:01 |
| BenC | easy enough, just copy the one from amd64 config's | 10:01 |
| fabbione | yeah that too | 10:01 |
| BenC | I can schedule that for post 8.10 | 10:01 |
| fabbione | after you release 8.10 | 10:01 |
| fabbione | yeah | 10:01 |
| fabbione | bingo | 10:01 |
| Kamion | oh, argh, one more kernel thing | 10:01 |
| fabbione | Kamion: not for install | 10:02 |
| fabbione | and not in main | 10:02 |
| BenC | not for install or CD | 10:02 |
| fabbione | we will keep for universe | 10:02 |
| Kamion | no, *I* have one more kernel thing I mean | 10:02 |
| BenC | DVD only, IMO | 10:02 |
| BenC | what? | 10:02 |
| Kamion | the kernel appears to be eating arguments it doesn't recognise | 10:02 |
| Kamion | for example: | 10:02 |
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| Kamion | Unknown boot option `base-installer/kernel/linux/extra-packages-2.6=usplash': ignoring | 10:03 |
| fabbione | good night fellas | 10:03 |
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| CataEnry | hi :) | 10:03 |
| Kamion | although rescue/enable=true appears to work, since the rescue mode works fine | 10:03 |
| BenC | the original untouched command line should always be in /proc/cmdline | 10:04 |
| Kamion | so I'm a bit confused as yet, but this is breaking d-i preseeding | 10:04 |
| Kamion | at the moment we fetch it from init's environment, not /proc/cmdline | 10:04 |
| BenC | base- is probably matching some __setup() in the kernel | 10:04 |
| Kamion | ok, if it's constrained to a particular pattern then I can postpone the fix | 10:05 |
| BenC | IMO, it should always be gotten from /proc/cmdline | 10:05 |
| Kamion | I think we used the environment because it was already parsed into a more or less suitable form | 10:05 |
| Kamion | but it can be changed | 10:05 |
| Kamion | dates from December 2003 if I'm reading d-i changelogs correctly | 10:06 |
| Kamion | right, no problem then | 10:06 |
| BenC | ok | 10:07 |
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| AcidPils1 | BenC: omg, wanna have a beer? | 11:59 |
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| BenC | think I'll need a case, I've spent 4 days on this buglist | 12:00 |
| jbailey | BenC: And now the bugs are sitting on top of you, squishing you? =) | 12:00 |
| BenC | jbailey: feels like it :) | 12:00 |
| BenC | now I need to reload to see how many I actually closed and/or put in pendingupload | 12:01 |
| AcidPils | BenC: dont do it... i dont wanna see you cry because of the new reports ;) | 12:02 |
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