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triple5aSt3raL: yes i have the device plugged in. it is a usb device, so you can look at the devices that are there... (do you have usbview installed ( sudo apt-get install usbview )12:00
sethkalexwillmer, if you think about it for a moment, you'll see that can't be true, because logging occurs before any user space process is running.12:00
czrardchoille, did you try plugging into different ports?12:00
saik0egytrack .Trash or .Trash-user12:00
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ardchoilleczr: yes12:00
czrsethk, kernel buffers messages until klogd will read them (when it starts)12:00
alexwillmersethk, yes in memory, when syslogd starts it receives a dump of all kernal messages so far12:00
czrardchoille, weird indeed. you should see messages about usb recoginizing usb devices when you plug/unplug them. but your dmesg doesn't show that at all12:00
sethkczr, usually, but not always.  Certain panics write to the log directly.12:01
ardchoilleczr: The usb ports on this computer worked fine in Fedora, Mandriva and MEPIS.12:01
egytrackhow i can put the trash icon in the desktop ?12:01
czrsethk, no they don't12:01
triple5sorry czr, sethk, alexwillmer can you go to #linux-fundamentals?12:01
sethkczr, ok, I'll jot it down the next time I see it happen and let you know.12:01
jon__anyone know how I can make FLUXBOX my default WM?12:01
alexwillmerim done, sorry for the OT12:01
sethktriple5, sorry12:01
saik0jon__, using GDM?12:02
rosenis there a shortcut for shifting between desktops?12:02
sethkrosen, in KDE control-alt,f1 (2, 3, 4).  I believe that works in gnome also.12:02
czrardchoille, from /var/log/dmesg it seems that kernel needs to do some IRQ-rerouting because of buggy VIA12:02
triple5no worries, it is all cool guys, I like  a little bit of emotion... :-D12:02
saik0rosen ctrl+alt+left/right12:02
czrardchoille, that might be the problem12:02
jon__No i mean getting rid on GNOME and installing FLUXBOX to be default12:02
czrardchoille, can you pastebin /proc/interrupts?12:02
ardchoilleczr: sure, hold on12:02
saik0you're still using a dsiplay manager, unless you use startx12:03
_jasonubotu tell egytrack about desktoptrash12:03
rosenthanks guys12:03
triple5but I was trying to help aSt3raL, channel got a little floody...12:03
sethkjon__, it depends on which display manager you are using.  (not window manager, display manager; hence someone's question about gdm)12:03
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mephis1987oh12:03
jon__i have no clue, all I know is that i'm using gnome.12:03
mephis1987i came back12:03
ardchoilleczr: http://rafb.net/paste/results/e10CQz17.html12:03
svizzeroanyone knows a visual latex editor for linux?12:04
mephis1987can anyone answer me12:04
saik0jon__, GNOME, (and thus, ubuntu) ships with GDM as a display manager12:04
triple5mephis1987: can anyone answer me??12:04
coaghttp://pastebin.com/459873 im trying to setup my xorg.conf for dual monitors but it's not working12:04
jon__k. so how can I change it to fluxbox?12:04
mephis1987http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/563412:04
mephis1987here mylink12:04
czrardchoille, looks broken12:04
mephis1987pls answer again12:04
_jasonsvizzero, I think LyX is one12:04
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czrardchoille, your bios is broken / mobo PCI IRQ routing is broken12:04
mephis1987i have been loged out for a wile12:04
ardchoilleczr: what exactly is broken? Ubuntu?12:04
sethkjon__, if you didn't change the default and you are in gnome, you are using gdm12:04
svizzero_jason, thx12:04
saik0jon__ if you install fluxbox through apt-get or synaptic it will add an xsession for itself. you can just logout and choose fluxbox from your display manager, and from there set it to default12:04
mephis1987i have problem with make command12:05
mephis1987http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/563412:05
czrardchoille, no. probably the kernel that 5.10 is using is newer that you've been using before and tries to fix things when they're too broken. it fixes them wrong for you12:05
StadsportI'm having a weird issue with Firefox 1.5, if someone can help.12:05
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egytrackthanks jason , it work12:05
sethkjon__, in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf, there is a line DefaultSession12:05
jon__I know yesterday I did install fluxbox and went to xsession to set it as default12:05
kabus/quit12:05
czrardchoille, if you look at the line of /proc/interrupts where you have uhci_, ..., you see that the counter is zero12:05
sethkjon__, this is usually set to default.desktop12:05
czrardchoille, it should normally increase an all USB events12:05
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sethkjon__, you can either change it there, or go to the default directory and replace the gnome links with fluxbox links12:06
ardchoilleczr: I remember Fedora using a 2.6.13 kernel and all usb devices worked12:06
coagczr: when you are done helping him can you help me out for a second?12:06
saik0jon__, But it wont make too much of a difference if you're still using all th gnome apps12:06
sethkjon__, let me get the default directory12:06
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jon__k12:06
czrcoag, what's your problem?12:06
coaghttp://pastebin.com/459873 im trying to setup my xorg.conf for dual monitors but it's not working12:06
triple5mephis1987: sorry I have no idea...12:06
ardchoilleczr: should I have usbmount installed from synaptic?12:06
czrardchoille, but FC/RH kernels are heavily patched12:06
priichsvizzero,  whizzytex ?12:06
coagthe paste is my xorg.conf12:06
ardchoilleczr: ah, I see12:06
czrardchoille, it won't help. this is a kernel/hw-issue12:06
rosenNext question.. when I try to burn cd's and I get prompted to put in the new CD I get an error message saying that it was not mounted ... sometimes it works anyways though, but what could cause this ?12:06
Seveasczr, so are ubuntu kernels :)12:06
mephis1987anyone else?12:06
mephis1987can help me12:06
mephis1987http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/563412:07
ardchoilleczr: Do you think a new computer would help?12:07
B-166_ER-Xunrar nonfree is no more in the archives ??12:07
czrSeveas, sure, but not so drastically IMHO12:07
shinuis there any way of getting back an xterm that is running but i dont have a window for it?..12:07
czrardchoille, nah, give me a second12:07
aSt3raLhow do i like remake driver?12:07
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sethkjon__, check the file /etc/X11/gdm/Init12:07
aSt3raLi did make and something got screwed up12:07
sethkjon__, check the file /etc/X11/gdm/Init/Default, sorry12:07
Seveasmephis1987, that software is broken12:07
mephis1987i have problem with make command when installing a software12:07
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mephis1987oh12:07
sethkjon__, back that file up _before_ changing it.12:07
aSt3raLcan i clear the make and do it over12:07
mephis1987everything runs fine until make command12:08
jon__how do I do that?12:08
Seveasczr, no, it's not as bad as RH12:08
B-166_ER-Xwhere can i get unrar nonfree ??12:08
mephis1987and sudo make install12:08
SeveasB-166_ER-X, multiverse12:08
czrcoag, can you pastebin your xorg log too?12:08
coagalright12:08
czrcoag, and explain what you mean by 'not working'12:08
B-166_ER-Xseveas, all that i found is unrar-free12:08
Seveas!info unrar-nonfree12:08
ubotuunrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 83 kB, Installed size: 216 kB12:08
Seveaslook better12:08
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sethkmephis1987, looks like the X dev files are not installed12:08
jon__alright thanks12:08
coagczr: X only loads on the Default Screen12:09
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egytrackdose anyone have the Original CD of ubuntu ?12:09
B-166_ER-Xhmm12:09
czrardchoille, have you ever modified kernel command line?12:09
sethkmephis1987, the missing file (X.h) will be there when you install X development12:09
Seveasegytrack, lots of us have12:09
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B-166_ER-Xthen i dont have the multiverse repos12:09
mat__hey guys i cant edit my grub menu.lst file12:09
mat__can some one help em out12:09
sethkmat__, did you use sudo?12:09
coagczr: where is the xorg log located?12:09
ardchoilleczr: No, but very willing to try12:09
Seveasmat__, sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst12:09
egytrackfrom where u get it ?12:09
czrcoag, ardchoille give me a sec :-)12:09
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Seveassethk, yeah, but in the wrong paths - the software he tries is made for old xfree12:10
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egytrackis it five CDs ?12:10
czrcoag, try removing the numbers in "ServerLayout" (the 0 and 1)12:10
Seveasegytrack, no, 112:10
mephis1987how can i install X dev file12:10
hyperactivecrondwhat is the thing that someone has to install to get "open terminal" in the right-click context menu in ubuntu breezy?12:10
czrcoag, /var/log/Xorg.0.log12:10
Seveasmephis1987, it won't help. The software is broken.12:10
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mat__can i edit it in the gui12:10
mephis1987how i get this missing file12:10
mephis1987uhm12:10
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mephis1987really12:10
egytrack1 install cd and 1 live CD and one for amd right ?12:10
ardchoilleczr: you can help coag first since his prob seems more severe than mine, just don't forget about me :)12:10
Seveashyperactivecrond, nautilus-open-terminal12:10
warnohow do I get bittorrent working on ubuntu12:10
hyperactivecrondthx Seveas12:10
egytracki mean 2 for amd install and live12:10
_jasonwarno, works by default12:11
Seveasegytrack, no, the package contains one install and one live cd12:11
sethkmephis1987, you can add a link of /usr/include/X11 to /usr/X11/include12:11
Seveaseither i386, or ppc, or amd6412:11
warnosorry bit new to ubuntu..12:11
Seveassethk, and then fix lots more errors..12:11
czrardchoille, nah, I'm looking info for you. there are options you can give the kernel so that it will do the IRQ-mapping differently12:11
pete__can anyone help me with a weird gaim problem?12:11
_jasonwarno, app menu -> internet -> gnome bit torrent12:11
egytrackwhat is ppc ?12:11
mat__anyone, how can i have root acces and edit the menu.lst in the gui12:11
warnolol ty12:11
mephis1987k mephis1987, you can add a link of /usr/include/X11 to /usr/X11/include?12:11
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Seveas!tell peter__ about anyine12:11
ardchoilleczr: awesome12:11
sethkmephis1987, sorry, I was wrong about the file location, I was looking at an older machine.  The ubuntu (xorg) location is indeed /usr/include/X1112:11
mephis1987i dont understand this12:11
czer323sethk, Wonderful man, it worked!  I had to remove Firefox 1.5 and reinstall the 1.07.  Any ideas when 1.5 will be implemented?12:11
pete___jason friend, can you help me with another problem/12:11
Seveasmat__, sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst12:11
czrardchoille, doesn't mean that it will work though :--)12:11
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sethkczer323, no, not really.  I haven't heard12:12
coagczr: http://pastebin.com/46017112:12
hyperactivecrondwarno: gnometorrent?12:12
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Seveasczer323, for breezy: don't count on it12:12
Seveasfor dapper: already there12:12
_jasonpete__, just ask the channel, ifI know I'll help12:12
sethkmephis1987, a link is an alias for a file or a directory12:12
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B-166_ER-X!multiverse12:12
uboturumour has it, repositories is How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list12:12
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mat__thank you12:12
pete__my gaim closes when i hit x, but i have the plugin for system tray?12:12
czer323Another 6 months maybe? ;)12:12
B-166_ER-X!sources12:12
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic12:12
sethkmephis1987, your software is looking for /usr/X11/include/X.h, but your machine has /usr/include/X11/X.h12:12
ingodoes anyone use Mac on linux here12:12
Seveaspete__, did you enable thu pligun?12:12
mephis1987ah12:12
mephis1987so how can i change the link ?12:12
pete__Seveas where do i do that at?12:12
sethkmephis1987, so if you do this:  sudo ln -s /usr/include/X11 /usr/X11/include, the file will be found by make12:12
warnohow do I use the bittorrent for file sharing12:13
pete__in prefferences? if so i did.12:13
sethkmephis1987, add, not change12:13
mephis1987wow12:13
aSt3raLhow can i get ls mod to look for one specific module?12:13
Seveaspete__, in the gaim options...12:13
mephis1987thanks12:13
sethkmephis1987, you leave everything as it is so you don't screw up all the programs that are correctly configured.  :)12:13
czrcoag, line 31712:13
sethkmephis1987, but adding a link is safe12:13
pete__i have the nautilus integration, and12:13
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coagczr: i _just_ saw that too12:13
coagthanks12:13
pete__system tray icon checked.12:13
czrcoag, seems that the 'cirrus' driver cannot drive the thing you have in 0:12:012:13
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czrcoag, lspci and give the line that has your cirrus listed12:14
mephis1987before make command12:14
mephis1987i add sudo ln -s /usr/include/X11 /usr/X11/include ?12:14
aSt3raLanyone know how to get lsmod to search for one module?12:14
mephis1987is it rite?12:14
egytrackwhen i try to update with synaptic its says not authenticated12:14
egytrackwhat is that ?12:14
czraSt3raL, lsmod lists the modules that are loaded in the kernel at that moment12:14
coag0000:00:0c.0 VGA compatible controller: Cirrus Logic GD 5434-8 [Alpine]  (rev fc)12:14
sethkmephis1987, right, then try it.  You may simply get a different error, but it is definitely worth a try.12:14
aSt3raLok12:14
mephis1987:D12:14
aSt3raLwell my module is loaded12:14
aSt3raLhow do i load the driver?12:14
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djk_Seveas: what's up with !libvdcss ? shouldn't that be deleted?12:15
GigaClonhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/DellInspiron5100 at the bottom says to edit GRUB, but it doesn't say what file or where?12:15
toothpickAre you runnin xvidcap successfully?12:15
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pete__anyone have any ideas why my gaim just closes with x?12:15
sethkaSt3raL, the module is the driver12:15
czrcoag, try replacing in xorg.conf the 'PCI:0:0c:0' into 'PCI:0:12:0'12:15
cybernicghtol12:15
mephis1987:D another error ln: creating symbolic link `/usr/X11/include' to `/usr/include/X11': No such file or directory12:15
egytrackis it not safe to update via synaptic [ not authenticated ] 12:15
sethkaSt3raL, the rest should happen automatically when the hardware is detected.12:15
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sethkmephis1987, in that case you probably do need to install the X dev files12:15
coagczr: ok i must test now12:15
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_jasonpete__, does the tray icon show up at all?12:15
czrcoag, although you could just drop both of the BusID lines and try whether the automagic works12:16
coagthanks for your help12:16
bob2GigaClon: presumably /boot/grub/menu.lst12:16
czrcoag, good luck12:16
sethkmephis1987, if that's the case, the software may well be smart enough to find the file in the correct place12:16
bob2egytrack: correct12:16
mephis1987in synaptic ?12:16
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bob2egytrack: but most people don't care, and it was the default for 9 years12:16
mephis1987uh,12:16
mephis1987i m not sure12:16
aSt3raLits not detecting the hardware12:16
coagczr: command to restart X?12:16
czrardchoille, you ready? have you registered12:16
sethkmephis1987, right.  install X dev support and try your build again.  Then if it is still failing, and /usr/include/X11/X.h exists, we go back to the link12:16
GigaClonit wants me to add the acpi_irq_balance option but I don't know where12:16
czrcoag, logout and login normally is enough12:16
pete___jason no.12:16
czrcoag, Ctrl+Alt+Backspace = kill X (and all programs)12:16
bob2aSt3raL: in what sense is it not detected?12:16
bob2GigaClon: as above12:16
bob2mephis1987: what are you trying to build?12:17
ardchoilleczr: registered what/where?12:17
sethkegytrack, usually there is a file menu.lst and a link grub.conf, or a file grub.conf and a link menu.lst.  Either works.12:17
czrardchoille, oh, sorry. in freenode :-)12:17
_jasonpete__,  it should show up as soon as you check on it in plugins12:17
doogluswho looks after the pastebin site?  I just found a bug in the pastebin script.12:17
czrardchoille, we could do this via privmsgs12:17
pete___jason it doesn't :\12:17
ardchoilleczr: yes, I am id'd12:17
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_jasonpete__, do you have other things in the system tray?12:17
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warnowhy is there only my box in the list for Bittorrent12:17
aSt3raLthis faq says to add alias ra0 rt2500 to /etc/modules.conf12:18
pete__i have a window switcher thingy.12:18
bob2dooglus: if it's .nl, I'd be guessing monsieur Seveas12:18
bob2aSt3raL: ignore it12:18
_jasonpete__, do you have volume etc?12:18
pete__yea12:18
aSt3raLwhy ignore it?12:18
tom__hi, i new at linux, i have ubuntu, can anyone tell me how can i log myself as root12:18
tom__?12:18
bob2aSt3raL: because it's of no use12:18
Seveasdooglus, bob2 is right as usual :)12:18
bob2tom__: you don't12:18
GigaClonbob2, I have the file open but I don't know where the option needs to be added12:18
GigaClon!root12:18
ubotufrom memory, root is rumour has it, that root is disabled in Ubuntu, actually this means there is no password set for the root account, use sudo when you need admin access, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo12:18
Kyralubotu tell tom__ about RootSudo12:18
mephis1987i m trying to install Xvnkb12:18
mephis1987A Vietnamese input keyboard for X-window12:18
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tom__thanks man12:19
_jasonpete__, hrmm I dont know, do the other plugins work?12:19
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triple5!sudo12:19
pete___jason let me try one12:19
ubotusudo is, like, totally, the command to get superuser privileges, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo12:19
warnowhats a good file download program???12:19
bob2GigaClon: # kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro resume=/dev/hda2 elevator=as12:19
bob2GigaClon: the line that looks like that12:19
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mephis1987http://xvnkb.sourceforge.net/?&lang=en here the link and the guide to install12:19
_jasonwarno, wget ?12:19
bob2warno: wget...12:19
aSt3raLok well i have the module loaded12:19
bob2GigaClon: (yes, it should be commented out; run update-grub afterwards)12:19
sorush20guys i need to select a unicode font for my Konqueror where can I get a unicode?12:19
Millenniumgroupanyone know how to install? this one libstdc++.so.2.8.0 ????12:19
aSt3raLbut theres no device12:19
aSt3raLwhat would cause that?12:19
bob2aSt3raL: great, no need to mess around in /etc/modules.conf12:20
bob2aSt3raL: define "no device"12:20
bob2aSt3raL: "not listed in a gui tool" is not a useful piece of information, tho12:20
aSt3raLok12:20
mpm2My laptop is not recognizing pcmcia card... I think either the pcmcia slot hardware is broken, or ubuntu lost communication with it12:20
aSt3raLwell i type iwconfig rt250012:20
rosenHas anyone here had experience with running skype in ubuntu ?12:20
bob2mpm2: are you running dapper?12:20
aSt3raLand it says no such device12:20
bob2aSt3raL: just run "iwconfig"12:20
GigaClon!skype12:20
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl12:20
bob2rosen: lots of people have...12:20
bob2Millenniumgroup: what are you trying to do?12:20
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mpm2does anyone know how to figure out how to pinpoint the problem?12:21
bob2!+info xvnkb12:21
pete___jason the problem was having the natilus one checked12:21
ubotuUpdating ubuntu files... please wait.12:21
ubotuPackage 'xvnkb' does not exist.12:21
Millenniumgroupbob2, Im trying to run an old pinball game tha requires an older build, hence this one libstdc++.so.2.8.012:21
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aSt3raLand when i run the RaConfig2500 which is the gui config utility12:21
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Millenniumgroupand I don't know where to place it/install?12:21
bob2Millenniumgroup: and the game is not in ubuntu?12:21
rosenallright, well my contacts sees me as being offline ... they are windows users... is this a known issue or have I missed something ?12:21
_jasonpete__, ok strange cus I don't have that one checked and it works but as long as you got it to work12:21
bob2aSt3raL: ignore the gui tool12:21
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soundrayaSt3raL, is this a USB device?12:21
Millenniumgroupbob2, correct it's not12:21
aSt3raLit also says device driver not found12:21
fhlis eject via drive button actually going to make it into next rellease does anyone know ? ;-))12:21
aSt3raLsoundray: yes12:21
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mpm2How can I figure out if I have a hardware problem or software problem with my pcmcia card?12:21
pete___jason thats what i mean, having it checked fucked me up12:21
bob2aSt3raL: does "iwconfig" see it?12:21
sethkmpm2, I'd start by looking for detection of the pcmcia hardware in the dmesg output or /var/log/messages12:22
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_jasonpete__, oh12:22
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bob2aSt3raL: what are the last ten lines of dmesg? (#flood)12:22
sethkmpm2, I assume you said yes to the pcmcia questions during install12:22
bob2mpm2: you're using breezy?12:22
MillenniumgroupI pulled down a tar, extracted, tried to make the pl executable and it complained about my libstdc++.so.2.8.0, so I read I must use an older one12:22
dhofstra_jason  thanks,, that livecd totally worked!  live cds rock...12:22
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triple5aSt3raL: just type iwconfig12:22
pete___jason scratch that, i think it's still fucked up12:22
aSt3raLdmesg?12:22
GigaClonis it safe to remove the Hoary kernal (2.6.10)12:22
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_jasondhofstra, cool, good to know ;o12:22
soundrayaSt3raL, I had a similar problem to yours -- I gave up in the end and configured it with ndiswrapper.12:22
aSt3raLiwconfig doesnt see the device12:22
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_jasonpete__, watch the language in here please12:22
aSt3raLndiswrapper crashes12:22
triple5 aSt3raL: you have to type dmesg12:22
Kindredhow would I go about sharing a folder with a user in the same group, and having all the files/folders created in it receiving the same permissions by default?.. I just need pointing in the right direction, I guess.12:22
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pete___jason sorry, this problem is very annoying.12:23
mpm2bob2 yes, kubuntu/breezy...12:23
dhofstranow if I could just figure out syntax to let my user run this one program with root privelages and no password12:23
rosenI guess not then12:23
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sethkKindred, man umask12:23
aSt3raLok i typeed dmesg12:23
bob2aSt3raL: then the driver isn't working12:23
bob2aSt3raL: we need the dmesg output12:23
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bob2not. in. here.12:23
warnohow do I run wget12:23
Naxconwhat does "child terminated with 1 status"12:23
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Naxconmean?12:23
Kindredsethk, thanks.12:23
triple5 aSt3raL: paste the output in #flood not here12:23
bob2dhofstra: huh? NOPASSWD:12:23
soundraywarno, 'wget url'12:23
bob2Naxcon: and you're seeing that, where?12:23
mpm2bob2 pcmcia wifi was working with another card via ndiswrapper, but it stopped working and I was sick of ndiswwrapper so I bought a card (orinoco) that is natively supported, but it's not recognizing it at all12:23
warnolol12:23
sethkKindred, if you don't find a man, check the man page for the shell12:23
_jasonpete__, yes, idk what else it could be.  You can try the windows solution and restart X to see if it plays nicely afterwards12:23
active-matrixwget url/passwd :D12:23
pete__how do i restart x?12:24
bob2mpm2: nothing in syslog when you plug it?12:24
warnowhats a good url for mp3s\12:24
Seveaspete__, <ctrl><alt><bksp>12:24
Naxconbob2: im trying to install a driver and running the file as root. it says that each time i try. im probably doing something wrong though...i have no idea what im doing12:24
_jasonpete__, save anything you are .... nvr mnd12:24
mpm2bob2 syslog?  I just catted out /var/log/messages... nothing there... where is syslog?12:24
aSt3raLok its in flood12:24
djk_Seveas: could you take a look at the factoid libvdcss ?12:24
dhofstrabob2: in my user privilage specification area I have "<username>   ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/<programname>"  but that doesnt seem to be working12:24
M3ocs-D4rksunhave some one alive here?12:24
bob2warno: www.emusic.com12:24
warnonice!12:25
mpm2and dmesg|grep pcmcia shows nothing12:25
bob2warno: however, you'll need to find another channel to talk about this, not here.12:25
czrdhofstra, is the program graphical?12:25
david_m_egrrr.... i feel stupid... how do i find all files on a Linux file system matching a particular wildcard? i am trying to find out if <stdio.c> is part of any of the development tools included in the base distrib of Ubuntu, but "ls *.c" only gives me files in root; "ls /*/*.c" only gives me files one dir down, etc... how do i search for a file anywhere on the file system?12:25
bob2mpm2: /var/log//syslog12:25
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M3ocs-D4rksunhehe12:25
bob2Naxcon: show us the whole output in #flood12:25
warnook12:25
dhofstraczr yes, it is mythfrontend.. but I am launching it from a terminal12:25
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czrdavid_m_e, find / -name "*.c" -type f 2> /dev/null12:25
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david_m_ehail czr!12:25
bob2dhofstra: stdio.h is in libc6-dev, but you need build-essential if you want to install anything12:25
czrdavid_m_e, although you might get more luck with <stdio.h>12:26
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bob2david_m_e: ^12:26
pete__ty _jason worked fine.12:26
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_jasonpete__, cool12:26
bob2david_m_e: 'locate stdio.h' will search a daily-updated db for files on disk, too (-r lets you use a regexp)12:26
czrdhofstra, some graphical programs will not work trough sudo because of x-authentication issues12:26
pete__seems all my gdesklets i setup last time are gone now.12:26
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emacsenif I want a newer package in the universe, is it better to file a bug report to ubuntu or Debian? :)12:26
pete__will that happen every reboot?12:26
Naxconbob2: im not on that computer right now. im trying to install drivers for my network card and i keep getting that12:26
bob2david_m_e: apt-file and packages.ubuntu.com let you search for files in packages you may not have installed yet12:26
david_m_edamn... i knew there was something wrong with that line when the compiler complained... fyi, i havent prog'd in c or on a -ix box in 20 years... this is going to be fun12:26
bob2dhofstra: even if you specify the full path on the command line?12:26
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dhofstraczr.. ahhh, but i have this working in suse using the sudoers file.. I'll keep plugging away at it12:26
soundraydavid_m_e, there is also a list of all files in an architecture that shows for each one which package installs it.12:26
aSt3raLok12:27
mpm2bob2 yes I see it now: "Unsupported card  in socket 1 with prodecut info etc...12:27
dhofstrabob2 yes full path on command line12:27
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bob2david_m_e: stdio.h is in libc6-dev, but you need build-essential if you want to install anything12:27
M3ocs-D4rksunwarno wget <link>12:27
aSt3raL[4298613.690000]  usb 4-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 312:27
bob2mpm2: is it a cardbus card?12:27
M3ocs-D4rksunonly it12:27
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aSt3raLthat is the adapter12:27
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mpm2bob2 although this card is listed as natively supported on multiple sites... what might I need to apt-get to recognize it?12:27
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bob2aSt3raL: that's not very useful output12:27
M3ocs-D4rksun$wget <link>12:27
triple5bob2, aSt3raL has another wlan0 working...12:27
triple5maybe that's the prob12:28
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Millenniumgroupbob2, how do I export a variable, I placed the libstdc++.so.2.8.0 in my /usr/lib but I need to export the variable in order for the system to find it12:28
aSt3raLrt2500                149220  012:28
aSt3raLthats the module12:28
bob2aSt3raL: how many wireless nics do you have?12:28
mahangu_how can I burn a VCD in ubuntu?12:28
dhofstrabob2 and czr  hey, when I launch it via terminal, I do get the program to run with root and no password, it is just my desktop shortcut that prompts for a password..12:28
mahangu_i have an .avi file12:28
mpm2bob2 it's a orinoco 8420-WD, i'm not sure what you mean by cardbus12:28
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aSt3raLone builtin12:28
bob2Millenniumgroup: no you don't, /usr/lib/ is in the default library search path12:28
St^Anger^19mfrom where can i get some one-on-one java help?...it's a simple prob, but i just started learning a few days ago12:28
aSt3raLthat one works12:28
bob2Millenniumgroup: if you did, tho, LD_LIBRARY_PATH is what you'd set12:28
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aSt3raLand the other is usb and wont work12:28
Millenniumgroupk I'll try that, thanx :)12:28
bob2St^Anger^19m: just ask youe question...12:28
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markyhi12:29
djk_mahangu_: the same way you'd burn it in any other OS, convert it to mpeg, and burn it as vcd with k3b for example.12:29
david_m_every helpful, all; thank you; and now for my next question: c++ is great, but i noticed that Linux Journal readers had high regards for Python; i want to develop graphics intensive game-like apps that will run on -ix/Win/Mac ... will Python let me do that with more ease than c++?12:29
markyis this a help channel?12:29
triple5 aSt3raL: I had a problem with a wireless adapter that didn't work until I unplugged the network cable12:29
aSt3raLdo i have to configure ubuntu differently to work with two wireless adapters?12:29
djk_marky: yes12:29
mahangu_djk_, how can i convert to mpeg?12:29
aSt3raLthats insane12:29
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triple5marky: yeah12:30
markydjk  , are you busy?12:30
djk_mahangu_: transcode, mencoder..12:30
uber_spacedI just bought a DVD burner.  What software is there for me to use with Ubuntu?12:30
sorush20!sourceinstall12:30
ubotusorush20: I don't know, could you explain it?12:30
xiaogilhi12:30
triple5W e a all trying to help12:30
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cunterhi12:30
djk_marky: sort of, just ask and someone will answer12:30
uber_spacedI know of XCdroast for burning CDs, but I dont know what to use for DVDs.12:30
MachineScrewis gnome-look.org down or is it just me12:30
cuntercann anybody tell me if port 500 is used by standart ?12:30
xiaogilTotem give me the following msg, what should I do ? => Totem could not play 'http://publicite.francetv.fr/pub-france2.asx'.12:30
mweubotu: k3b, but it uses the kdelibs12:30
djk_uber_spaced: k3b12:30
ubotumwe: What?12:30
bob2david_m_e: how good a C++ programmer are you?12:30
mahangu_djk_, thanks12:30
uber_spaceddjk_, thanks.12:30
triple5aSt3raL: have you ever worked with two wireless NICs?12:30
_jasonMachineScrew, down for me too12:30
aSt3raLwhy wouldnt i be able to use two network interfaces?12:30
markyi 'm trying to copy a folder called win32 which is got my codecs in it , to /usr/lib  , but i can't get permissions12:30
aSt3raLnever12:30
mwewoa12:30
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david_m_ebob2, more like novice12:30
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bob2david_m_e: in the sense that you as a skilled C++ would spank you as a newbie python one12:31
bob2;)12:31
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aSt3raLwell unless you count right now :p12:31
coagnzr: didn't quite work12:31
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MachineScrewwhew I almos thought it was me12:31
coagnow it looks like it tries to load X on the second monitor12:31
Flying-Penguinhow would I output a command to a text file?12:31
coagbut something is keeping it from it12:31
aSt3raLthe two interfaces work on XP heh12:31
St^Anger^19mbob2: So I created a JFrame, then I created a JPanel, added a button to the panel..and it gets displayed well. Now I need to extend this. I created a class that extends JFrame (the constructor has title bar, size etc). I also created a class that extends JPanel, and which overrides paintComponent. The button displays ok. But i also want to display an image in the same Panel. But the code for loading the image is in a class, and its not getting displayed :S12:31
coagbecause it jsut goes black12:31
markyhow do i browse copy and paste in root  , in a gui12:31
triple5  aSt3raL: the two interfaces work on XP ... which one is it using?12:32
triple5both?12:32
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bob2St^Anger^19m: oh, programming java? #java12:32
david_m_ein theory, i know c++, but haven't developed anything other than a small QBasic to c++ binary tree lookup conversion for a pharmacy corporation12:32
duraHow do I get to runlevel 3 in Ubuntu?12:32
aSt3raLok say i wanted to do the alias thing12:32
bob2dura: why?12:32
duraBeing 2 is X and all12:32
St^Anger^19mi cant join #java :(12:32
bob2aSt3raL: no, don't, there's no point12:32
soundraydavid_m_e, with Python you will be writing working, platform-independent code in less time. With C++ you will be writing more efficient code.12:32
bob2dura: that's not the case12:32
RustednailWhat do I do when Ubuntu hangs after login?12:32
bob2St^Anger^19m: ...?12:32
durabob2, Because I don't want X running?12:32
aSt3raLhow can i make ra0 the device for the rt2500 module?12:32
Flying-PenguinDAMNIT12:32
Flying-Penguinhow would I output a command to a text file?12:32
bob2dura: gdm starts in run levels 2-4 in Ubuntu12:32
St^Anger^19mbob2: it says i need to be identified12:32
david_m_eefficiency is less of a concern than speed and ease of development12:33
soundrayRustednail, is this a fresh install?12:33
bob2St^Anger^19m: then do so12:33
markyi just need to copy a folder from my home dir to /usr/lib , can anyone help me12:33
aSt3raLwhat does alias do?12:33
bob2Flying-Penguin: ...foo > blah12:33
bob2aSt3raL: it is of no use12:33
St^Anger^19mbob2: how?12:33
_jasonFlying-Penguin, echo hi > file12:33
durabob2, I mean, what to I use for telinit (runlevel) ?12:33
bob2St^Anger^19m: www.freenode.net, using the network12:33
duraBeing 3 does nothing.12:33
david_m_esoundray: thanks12:33
duraAnd 2 is X.12:33
aSt3raLbob2: why do you say that?12:33
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dura1 is still single anyway.12:33
djk_bob2: could you take a look at ubotus factoid !libvdcss ?12:33
bob2dura: 2 is identical to 3 is identical to 4 is identical 512:33
duraLame12:33
bob2dura: if you want to stpo gdm, sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop12:33
duraWhy can't it just use the standards?12:33
bob2dura: no.12:33
soundraydavid_m_e, everything except "graphics, games" points to Python.12:33
bob2dura: there is no standard12:34
duraYes there is...12:34
duraNot heard of LSB?12:34
markycan anyone help me?12:34
duraYou know... what LPI is based on?12:34
dura:|12:34
bob2dura: which section of the LSB specifies this?12:34
triple5marky shoot away12:34
triple5what you need?12:34
durabob2, Being you're so concerned, you tell me?12:34
bob2dura: I'm not claiming it's a standard, you are12:34
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duraAsk a simple question and get shit for it.12:34
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kenichibye folks12:34
bob2moron12:34
markytriple5  , i'm trying to copy a folder from my home dir to /usr/libs but i can't get permission in the file browser12:35
cuntermy vpnc says: /usr/sbin/vpnc: binding to port 500: Address already in use12:35
cunterwhy ?12:35
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xangel36doen anyone knows a good messenger for ubuntu other than Gaim?12:35
triple5marky: okay, you need to sudo this action.12:35
david_m_ei still can't figure out how to 1) get my windows-key to do the same thing it does on my xp computer, e.g. equivalent to clicking on the start button; 2nd, how do i default Ubuntu to Shift-arrow marks text instead of generating the digit of the numberic-keypad-key that i hit (eg, shift-left-arrow starts marking text instead of typing a ') ?12:35
triple5because /usr/libs is a restricted area...12:35
mahangu_djk_, what would the mencoder syntax be?12:35
markyso i have to type it?12:35
coag(EE) CIRRUS(1): I2C initialization failed12:35
_jasonmarky, are you sure you need to do what you are doing?12:35
coagwould that error keep X from loading up right?12:35
triple5marky: what's the file?12:36
markyits to get the codecs for vlc in the right place12:36
david_m_ecorrection: typing a '4'12:36
markywin32 codec folder12:36
_jasonmarky, w32codecs?12:36
mpm2so bob2 are there packages I can dl that will help support the card... I didn't understand your question about whether my orinoco/proxim card is cardbus or not...12:36
markyyeah12:36
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bob2mpm2: is it a cardbus card?12:36
djk_mahangu_: not sure, i don't do things like that.. read the man-page12:36
triple5marky: you can also opena  nautilus with sudo and drag and drop...12:36
markyah12:36
mahangu_djk_, thanks12:36
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markyhow do i do that12:36
djk_you're welcome12:36
bob2david_m_e: go to the keybindings dialog and bind winkey to the gnome menu12:37
markythats what i need triple512:37
RustednailHas anyone run acros a problem with Ubuntu where it hangs after attempting to login? (blank brown screen with mouse cursor)12:37
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czrcoag, did your X start working?12:37
david_m_ebob2 thanks12:37
bob2david_m_e: text selection is toolkit and app-specific, but shift-left/right works fine for me in firefox at least12:37
_jasonubotu, tell marky about w32codecs12:37
soundrayRustednail, are you ignoring me?12:37
mpm2yes bob2 it's a pcmcia card if that's what cardbus means12:37
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navaronemarky...if you sudo nautilus...do what you need and close the session else you may forget and make things go boom12:37
_jasonmarky, follow the instructions ubotu sent you and you will be all set :)12:37
bob2mpm2: no, that's not what it means.  go check the box.12:37
soldieruk400hi all any ideas as to how i can instal my ipod ?12:37
Rustednailno text scrolling too fast, looking back, sorry12:37
bob2mpm2: how old is the laptop?12:37
bob2soldieruk400: install it? you mean, copy music to it?12:37
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soundrayRustednail, is this a fresh install12:38
david_m_ealso, gcc as installed doesn't support the "gui" mode; how do i recompile it to do so?12:38
soundray?12:38
nandemon1ihi people12:38
markythe codecs make it so you can play wmp9 stuff in vlc12:38
soldieruk400copy music off it12:38
xangel36can some on tell me wht type of file are compatible whit Ubuntu other than .deb?12:38
mpm2bob2 it's actually a PC Card; laptop is about 3 years old, inspiron 810012:38
djk_xangel36: source12:38
markyi'm gonna follow there instructions brb peeps12:38
RustednailSoundray: sorry,  Im new to IRC and this program, its scrolling to fast for me, to anser your question, Yes it is a freash install12:38
soldieruk400i would use the install disk but doubt it would work on here lol12:38
nandemon1iI'm wondering if anyone knows howto set evolution so it automatically applies all filters each tim eI check messages12:38
ardchoillebrb12:38
bob2david_m_e: what is "gui mode"?12:38
bob2mpm2: ah12:38
bob2mpm2: booting with some combination of "noapic" or "acpi=off" (to test) may work12:39
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david_m_ebob2 good question; i wanted to find out myself; it sounded nice12:39
bob2david_m_e: gcc has nothing to do with guis at all12:39
soundrayRustednail, do you have enough memory? Ubuntu needs ca. 128 MB minimum RAM12:39
david_m_eperhaps i meant vim12:39
mahangu_anybody know the syntax to convert an .avi to mpeg using mencoder? the man page has a very small entry on it12:39
david_m_esorry12:39
RustednailSoundray: yes, 1GB12:39
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mpm2bob2 I know how to do that on install, but with a standard boot how do I add options to the boot process?12:39
bob2david_m_e: ah, gvim12:39
david_m_eyes, vim -gui generated error "not compiled to support gui"12:40
mahangu_soundray, he can use less if he uses fluxbox or xfce12:40
david_m_eah12:40
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soundrayRustednail, are you familiar with the text console?12:40
david_m_elet me try12:40
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bob2mpm2: do you know how to get into the grub menu at boot?12:40
RustednailSoundray: Im getting a little used to it12:40
soundraymahangu_, yeah, it's not his problem anyway.12:40
mpm2bob2 I think so let me try12:40
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RustednailSoundray: but do not know the commands12:40
chrisx1Hey I Have A Problem With Bind Configureing It For my Domain Anybody help please?12:40
david_m_ebob2: gvim: command not found12:40
uber_spacedIf I am using the 5.10 preview release of Ubuntu, should I feel compelled install the newer version, or is there a way I can update my current installation?12:40
djk_mahangu_: try #mplayer12:41
yo2luxUbuntu is ready to replace a windows desktop?12:41
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_jasondavid_m_e, you need to install it12:41
priichmahangu, avi is just a container format. Success would likely depend on the actual codec used inside the avicontainer.12:41
_jason!info gvim12:41
soundrayRustednail, you can switch to text with Alt-Ctrl-F1 and login there.12:41
david_m_ejason yes i know; but how? (thanks)12:41
_jasondavid_m_e, vim-gnome is the package12:41
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djk_bob2: could you take a look at ubotus factoid !libvdcss ?12:41
david_m_ejason: thank you12:41
bulio|lapgot an old emachines, 180MB RAM 533MHZ processor12:41
RustednailSoundray:  I've tried that and can log in, but It will freeze at the brown screen when the GUI attempts to loa12:41
bulio|lap good enough for Ubuntu?12:41
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pete__bulio yes, but it will be slow.12:42
pete__slow for anything..12:42
djk_bulio|lap: yes12:42
david_m_ejason bob2 soundray :  thank you  -  thats all for now12:42
RustednailSoundray:  Also freezes when I click on the Session or Language button below the GUI login12:42
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mpm2bob2 i'm at the grub commandline what's the syntax for noapic?  'noapic boot' ?12:42
soundrayRustednail, yeah, understood. Log in on the text console and enter 'less .xsession-errors'12:42
navaronebulio|lap, you can try the server option install and gofrom there. You can add gui elements afterward as you need12:42
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bulio|lapI have a ubuntu install disk from last year12:42
Naxconall im trying to do is copy a file into the modules folder and i keep getting stupid permission denied errors. PLEASE someone tell me what to do... im pretty sure it has something to do with all this sudo crap but i cannot figure out how to get that to work???12:43
jeffroCan anyone tell me how to map a network drive?12:43
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bulio|lapIll put that on12:43
pete__Naxcon12:43
chrisx1Hey I Have A Problem With Bind Configureing It For my Domain Anybody help please?12:43
pete__have you tried setting the folder 777 ?12:43
nandemon1ianyone? howto automatically apply filters in evolution?12:43
soundrayRustednail, that will show you the log file from the X WIndow session.12:43
nandemon1iis it possible?12:43
RustednailSoundray:  I'll give that a shot12:43
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soundrayRustednail, can you do this as we chat?12:43
quackerhmmm... I'm finding ktorrent buggy (UI freezes and crashes).. is there a better bittorrent frontent client I can use?12:44
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RustednailSoundray:  I wish I could, Ubuntu is installed on this machine, the only machine I have :(12:44
nandemon1iquacker: try rtorrent12:44
hawkinghello I have to remove hotplug scripts from executing at start cause there are a few probs anyway when I try to move them it says can't move read only .. I changed their access code to 777 still the same12:44
soundrayRustednail, ah, okay.12:44
hawkingwhatshould i do12:44
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jeffroCan anyone tell me how to map a network drive?12:44
nandemon1ijeffro: mount it12:44
chrisx1Hey I Have A Problem With Bind Configureing It For my Domain Anybody help please?12:45
RustednailSoundray:  Thank you for your help and your patience :)12:45
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soundrayRustednail, well, .xsession-errors will contain a lot of stuff. But maybe you can find some message that makes sense.12:45
soundrayRustednail, give me another minute before you reboot...12:45
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RustednailSoundray:  Will the |more command work with that?12:45
quackernandemon1i, will I lose the torrents parts I've alreaddy d/l with it, or can I 'port' them to the new client?12:46
RustednailWaiting :)12:46
soundrayRustednail, 'less' is a kind of advanced 'more'12:46
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Seveasmost is even more advanced :)12:46
RustednailSoundray: so the it will wait for me to press a key before scrolling12:46
Naxconpete__: i cant change the persmissions cause it says im not the file owner...12:47
soundrayRustednail, yes, that's its main purpose. -- How long have you waited for something to happen on the brown screen.12:47
chaumurkyNaxcon: usesudo12:47
soundray?12:47
chaumurkysudo12:47
pete__hmm, naxon i donot know then.12:47
Naxconchaumurky: everyone keeps telling me to use sudo, i have no idea how...will someone please explain how...12:47
RustednailSoundray:  I've left it overnight, 6+ hours or so12:47
oxez_Seveas: didn't even know about 'most'. Just installed it and it looks nice! thanks :p12:48
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Dr_Willis!sudo12:48
ubotusudo is probably the command to get superuser privileges, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo12:48
markynow i get too ms ip (any connections from thi12:48
markydam keyboard12:48
soundrayRustednail, okay, that proves that something's wrong :)12:48
chaumurkybasically type the word sudo before the command you are using12:48
navaronejeffo try this thread...may help http://www.tek-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=1159299&page=112:48
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markyhow do i open the file browser in sudo?12:48
chaumurkysay you use chmod - you go sudo chmod12:49
_jasonmarky, gksudo nautilus12:49
_jasonmarky, did the wikipedia thing not work?12:49
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chaumurkyyes, sudo is only for terminal commands12:49
_jasonmarky, gah ubuntu wiki i mean12:49
RustednailSoundray:  I am thinking it might be a video problem, or problem with the driver.  I'm using a Nvidia 6800 card12:49
navarone_jason...whats the diff between sudo and gksudo?12:49
markynah it stalled on the first time i tried to get it12:49
_jasonnavarone, try it :)12:49
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markynext time it told me too many connections12:49
_jasonnavarone, gksudo gives you that popup for the password like when you run synaptic12:49
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chaumurkygksudo is sudo for gui apps12:49
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navarone_jason...I'm not that adventurous...<s>12:49
soundrayRustednail, if it's a video problem, you most likely wouldn't get a chance to log in at all.12:49
navaroneok12:49
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soundray*if it was12:50
jeffrothanks12:50
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hawkinghello I have to remove hotplug scripts from executing at start cause there are a few probs anyway when I try to move them it says can't move read only .. I changed their access code to 777 still the same   I Think I should remount the disk rw how can i do that?12:50
david_m_esoundray, are you still here?12:50
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coagczr: you heere?12:51
soundrayRustednail, on the login screen, you get options to load a failsafe session. Have you tried that?12:51
soundraydavid_m_e, yes, still here.12:51
RustednailSoundray:  hmmm, that makes since,  I'll try digging through the error log... That was less .xsession-error12:51
navarone_jason...if you sudo or gksudo nautilus...I assume it is advisable to stop that nautilus session as soon as you are done...in order to not do anything mistakenly?12:51
czrcoag, yeah, was kicked temporarily by lousy ISP12:51
coagalright12:51
coagwell this time it seems to try to work12:51
coagbut all i get is a black screen12:51
_jasonnavarone, I'd say so12:51
soundrayRustednail, /home/username/.xsession-errors12:51
czrcoag, what did you do?12:51
coagand one error12:51
david_m_ecsr, soundray: you told me 2 ways to find a file a file on my file system but they scrolled off of the screen buffer before i could save them... could you repeat please?12:51
czrcoag, pastebin xorg log :-)12:51
coag(EE) CIRRUS(1): I2C initialization failed12:51
czrcoag, that might be normal12:51
coagthats the onl error12:51
czrcan you still pastebin please?12:52
coagyes12:52
soundraydavid_m_e, I mentioned just one. http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/ has some files that will help, e.g. Contents-i386.gz (9MB)12:52
soundraydavid_m_e, if you download it, you can search it with grep afterwards.12:52
david_m_eczr was the other respondant; misspelled his name earlier12:52
RustednailSoundray:   Most of the time, I cannot click on the session key, it will hang at that point,  sometimes (after a third install) I get a menu with that option, but it hangs when I click on any one of them, last, default, Gnome, Gnome failsafe, etc12:53
markyi think that'll work  , i try and make vlc play a wmv  , brb12:53
soundraydavid_m_e, I need this so often, I wrote a script for it.12:53
czrdavid_m_e, why <stdio.c>? why not stdio.h?12:53
coagczr: http://pastebin.com/46021012:53
david_m_eyes, i did download it, but the screen buffer is only so many lines, any they weren't enuf12:53
david_m_eczr typo12:53
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czrdavid_m_e, find / -name "*.c" -type f 2>/dev/null12:53
sledis there a way to enable the "location bar" (ctrl + L) by default in nautilus?12:53
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david_m_eczr think-o technically - its been so long since i prog'd in c that i forgot that header files aren't .h12:54
soundrayRustednail, okay, that makes your theory more likely. (driver problem)12:54
RustednailSoundray: does it make a difference which version of Ubuntu (i386, AMD64)  I use,  I do have an amd-64 proc, so I tried the AMD 64 version,  I am currently downloading the i386 version now12:54
synackuatoris there a convenient fluxbox package similar to xubuntu-desktop?12:55
czrdavid_m_e, header files are .h :-)12:55
mahangu_synackuator, not that i know of, no12:55
navaroneRustednail i386 is the default in cd install...you should stick with what is most appropriate for your system12:55
soundrayRustednail, it may make a difference. i386 is the better choice anyway, if you don't need the last bit of speed from your system.12:55
mahangu_synackuator, you can always just apt-get fluxbox and then do the utils you want12:55
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soundrayRustednail, did you follow any of the NVidia-specific instructions?12:56
david_m_eczr as you can see, i am having slysdexia problems12:56
czrcoag, your mode for cirrus is too high. your card only has 1 meg memory. so run it at 16 bpp, not 2412:56
czrdavid_m_e :-)12:56
navaronewow 1 mb of memory12:56
coaghmm12:56
coagok12:56
coagnavarone: it's an 0old school PCI card :P12:56
navaronecoag I hear ya12:57
RustednailSoundray:  I didn't see any Nvidia specivic instrucions,  Did I overlook them somewhere on the web?12:57
czr5434 was quite nice to program, no MMIO though, a bit pita in that respect12:57
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sledhas anyone played CoD2 on linux, yet?12:57
Rustednailnavarone:  I downloaded the DVD version for AMD6412:57
czrcoag, might be that nvidia doesn't play nice with old-school cards that don't have MMIO btw12:57
david_m_eczr, soundray: thanks again12:57
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soundrayRustednail, I think ubotu has some info about it...12:57
soundray!nvidia12:57
czrcoag, or rather the old-school card doesn't play nice with modern cards12:57
ubotuI heard nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736812:57
coagczr: dual monitor works on XP12:57
priichhave a cl 5428  somewhere but no motherboard to stick it in.12:57
czrcoag, might be a driver issue then12:58
cunterhow can i check which program on my py is currently using port 50012:58
cunter??12:58
czrpridkett, vesavlb?12:58
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czrsry, priich12:58
coagczr: so change DefaultDepth to 16?12:58
priichczr, sure is12:58
czrcoag, at least if you want 800x60012:58
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czrcoag, 24 bpp requires either 4 or 3 bytes per pixel. do the math12:59
coagModes"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"12:59
fenriscunter: netstat nlp12:59
coagshould i take out 1024 there?12:59
synackuatormahangu, well it doesn't do xorg, you think xorg-common will do that part?12:59
czrcoag, probably12:59
synackuatormahangu, i just did the ubuntu server install because i don't want gnome01:00
czrcoag, X won't use the modes that you don't have memory for, or fail to satisfy timing requirements. so it's not a big problem01:00
St^Anger^19mi know unix and linux are different...but apart from kernel, what makes BSD and Linux different?01:00
doogluscunter: netstat -plt | grep 50001:00
mpm2bob2 I've rebooted with the options you suggested (noapic first, then nopic &  "acpi=off") when I was running hoary it was installed with the noapic nolapic options, but I didn't do that with breezy re-install... is nolapic another thing I should try adding to the grub menu??01:00
czrcoag, i2c is needed for DDC (getting monitor timing info), so you best fix your monitor HorizSync and VertRefresh to reflect reality01:00
soundrayRustednail, did you get these urls?01:01
fenriscunter: sorry, its netstat -nlp01:01
RustednailSoundray: yes01:01
cunterthx, hmm, there is no programm running on port 50001:01
chrisx1Bind01:01
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czrSt^Anger^19m, OT: low level management tools are different01:01
mr-russany clamav users here?  when installing the clamav package on breezy, it won't start as the init script refers to programs not installed.01:01
jdonghow would I interactively unsplit a tarball split with split(1)?01:01
jdongmr-russ: is it log_daemon_msg?01:02
navaronemr-russ, did you install freshclam as well?01:02
czrjdong, cat file1.tar file2.tar > file.tar01:02
soundrayRustednail, there is another log file which is more likely to help you than .xsession-errors: /var/log/Xorg.0.log01:02
coagczr: alright on the back of the monitor01:02
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jdongczr: what if the tarballs are on different CD's and there's not enough space to put them all on HD?01:02
St^Anger^19mi liked PC-BSD's idea of having an installer PBI01:02
coagthe only thing that  could be anythign says 60-50 Hz01:02
mr-russjdong: yes.01:02
czrjdong, then you cannot extract them if they were produced by split01:03
mr-russnavarone: I did, reinstalling now, maybe I need to start that first.01:03
jdongmr-russ: those can be ignored; clamav still works01:03
soundrayRustednail, if you need more help, consider coming back here and posting that file to pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl01:03
RustednailSoundray:  I did look through that one (Xorg.o.log)  but did not know what I was looking at01:03
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jdongczr: hmm, what about a hackjobbed python script that gives you a chance to wait and insert new media ;)01:03
dooglusjdong: while :; do read x; cat /media/cdrom/part*.tar; done | tar xf -01:03
soundrayRustednail, but following the nvidia instructions may fix it for you -- at least I hope so.01:03
dooglusjdong: hit return after mounting each cd01:03
czrjdong, could work. would need to read files and then output to a fifo with tar on the other side reading with tar xzvf -01:04
RustednailSoundray: gonna go give that a try01:04
soundrayRustednail, that's it from me for today. Good luck!01:04
jdongdooglus: that looks like it may need 40GB of RAM ;)01:04
czrjdong, how can you have space for the extracted files if you don't have space for the tars?01:04
coagczr: how wld itranslate that into seful information?01:04
mr-russfreshclam starts and runs, but clamav does not.01:04
RustednailSoundray:  Thank you for your help!!  :)01:04
RustednailThank you all!01:04
dooglusjdong: no, it won't need much RAM at all.  the output would be untarred disk by disk01:04
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mr-russit's an init script issue.01:04
jdongmr-russ: yes, I know, introduced by backports in 0.87.101:05
czrcoag, you had a useful modeline for the monitor '800x600@85'. use that for the 16-depth resolution01:05
dooglusjdong: linux won't try to hold the whole lot in RAM before starting tar.01:05
jdongmr-russ: the consensus was that it's harmless and lsb-init-scripts should NOT be backported01:05
mr-russjdong: so if i get rid of backports it will work.01:05
jdongdooglus: ok, I see; data goes to tar before cat's done01:05
jdongmr-russ: it works anyway01:05
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dooglusjdong: yes.01:05
jdongmr-russ: it just generates a warning01:05
coagczr: what do all the numbers after the "800x600@85" mean, and are they necesary?01:05
jdongmr-russ: get rid of backports and you're running a vulnerable 0.7601:05
fhldoes anyone know if umount for a CD via eject button is coming in dapper ( or later) ?01:06
jdong87*01:06
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mr-russjdong: but "start_daemon -p $THEPIDFILE $DAEMON",  start_daemon does not exist either.01:06
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mitch_hello01:06
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czrcoag, they're precise timing information for that mode that is called '800x600@85". they are all necessary if you want to use a mode with that name01:06
priich!w32codecs01:06
mitch_Is there anybody out there?01:06
czrcoag, where did you get the modeline from btw?01:06
dooglusmitch_: hundreds of us!01:07
coagczr: i copied the one from the other monitor :/01:07
jdongmr-russ: yes it does; /lib/lsb/init-functions01:07
coagand changed the resolution01:07
jdongmr-russ: that's included by every init script01:07
mitch_dungbuntu01:07
czrcoag, aaah01:07
czrcoag, then it wont work. the name '800x600@85" doesn't mean anything to X server01:07
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czrcoag, the timing parameters are what define the mode01:07
coag:/01:08
mitch_is there any real people out there?01:08
mpm2anyone else have recommendations for pcmcia troubleshooting?  a pcmcia wifi pc card (orinoco/agere) that should work natively isn't being recognized /var/log/syslog shows 'unsupported card' when I hotplug it...?01:08
czrcoag, comment the modeline in monitor/gateway, then in "second screen", remove the 1024x768:s01:08
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coagczr: ok01:08
czrcoag, and fix the numbers for the monitor (VertRefresh and the other), your monitor manual should help you there01:08
jdongmr-russ: is freshclam or any of its friends showing up in `ps -aux`?01:08
St^Anger^19mhttp://eugeneciurana.com/pastebin/pastebin.php?show=9213 -> can some1 help plz? nobody is answering in #java :(01:09
coagczr: i dont have a manual ill have to find that online01:09
mr-russjdong: freshclam is, but clamd won't.01:09
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mr-russjdong: looking at why not now.01:09
mitch_ANybody know any better chat servers where there is actualy people chatting?01:09
_jasonis there an equivalent to diff or maybe sed for binary files available in the repos?01:09
czrcoag, there might be a sticker on the back of the monitor too, of if it's a newer monitor, by pressing 'info'-button or similar01:09
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coagczr: it's a gateway EV700 if yowu ant to help01:09
HymnToLifepfiouuuuuuuuuu, just reinstalled ubuntu01:09
dooglusmitch_: have you come into a #ubuntu channel to complain that people are talking about ubuntu?01:10
jdongmr-russ: me too01:10
priichUmm, has anyone followed ubotu's advice on w32codecs ? Because i downloaded the w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb  linked from the wikipage and aegis says one of the files is infected with Magistr.a@MM virus01:10
HymnToLifesome stupid library missing, it just wouldn't boot anymore01:10
czrcoag, ok, give me a se01:10
jdongjdong@shuttle:/mnt/backup$ ps aux | grep clamd01:10
jdongclamav    5749  0.0  0.9  12252  9580 ?        Ss   19:13   0:00 /usr/sbin/clamd01:10
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jdongmr-russ: clamd runs here despite of error01:10
mitch_no no...   I came into the ubuntu server because i cant find a server with anybody in it01:10
dooglus_jason: I don't know of a utility, but you can expand the .deb files and compare the contents.01:10
navaronemitch you must try harder01:10
mr-russjdong: runs, then quits.  I just discovered that.  give me 5 minutes and I'll get something useful.01:10
dooglus_jason: use "ar xf <file.deb>" to get two .tgz files, and 'tar xf' to expand them01:10
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St^Anger^19mjoin #yoper01:11
czrcoag, HorizSync 31-63, VertRefresh 50-7501:11
mitch_damn but ive tried hard enough01:11
mr-russ/usr/sbin/clamd --debug -c /etc/clamav/clamd.conf; echo $?01:11
mr-russ001:11
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mr-russjdong: that's next to useless. :(01:11
_jasondooglus, hrmm I meant like if I had libflashplayer.so and wanted to change the second byte to 7 instead of 3 or something01:11
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czrcoag, then you don't need the modeline (comment it) and remove the 1024x768:s01:11
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clouseauhola ubunteros01:11
poningruque passa clouseau01:12
coagczr: off i go again01:12
rosenwich is the most commonly used app for viewing dvds and dvd files ?01:12
czrcoag, good luck :-)01:12
clouseauyeeeah, na nuevo probando cosas como siempre poningru01:12
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coagczr: thanks01:12
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poningruwoah no me hablo espanol01:12
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jdongmr-russ: looks like a configuration issue on your side then;01:12
clouseaude donde eres01:12
_jasondooglus, basically automating what would be done in a hex editor01:12
jdongmr-russ: my vmware session also runs clamav fine01:12
poningru!es01:13
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.01:13
navaroneclouseau,  ubuntu-es01:13
mitch_montega?01:13
clouseaucoo hay 201:13
mr-russjdong: I just expect it to give me something.  strace time it is.01:13
mr-russjdong: thanks for the fast assistance.01:13
dooglus_jason: got a minute or two?01:13
_jasondooglus, sure01:13
xangel36can some one tell me how to install this? PlaneShift_CBV0.3.011.linux.x86-2.run01:13
dooglus_jason: sorry.  what did you want to do?01:13
clouseauputos guiris no jodais con el solo ingles que me cago en algo01:13
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jdongmr-russ: np; g2g now, need me contact jdong@ubuntu.com or ubuntu-backports@lists.ubuntu.com01:13
uber_spacedWhere should I go to figure out how to set my Ubuntu box up as a firewall / NAT device?01:14
mr-russjdong: will do if needed.01:14
jdongthx everyone for the tar help, too01:14
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dooglus_jason: you want to script the editing of a binary file?01:14
_jasondooglus, basically I can go into a hex editor and edit the nth byte to whatever value I want.  I was wondering if there was a command line utility.01:14
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xangel36someone please01:14
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_jasondooglus, yeah, I guess I could do it in perl or some other language but I thought there may be something like sed for it01:14
dooglus_jason: it would be easy enough to do with a python script01:14
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czrxangel36, it's not ubuntu-related :-) try running it in terminal: chmod +x filename; ./filename01:15
vilefridgeWhen I put a CD in either my DVD or CD-ROM drives, in nautilus, they appear empty.  Is there something I'm missing?01:15
mitch_hello hello01:15
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_jasondooglus, k thanks01:15
xangel36hi con some one tell me how to install this using terminal can some one tell me how to install this? PlaneShift_CBV0.3.011.linux.x86-2.run please???01:15
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mpm2bob2 you still around?01:16
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mitch_hey anybody in there?01:16
czrxangel36, try joining channel #planeshift and asking there01:17
HymnToLifexangel36 > chmod +x <filename> and then ./<filename>01:17
ardchoilleczr pm?01:17
czrpm?01:17
ardchoilleprivmsg01:17
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mpm2Anyone have some ideas for me?  I'm troubleshooting a wifi card that's supposed to be supported: I tried the noapic and "acpi=off" options in grub, as well as noapic nolapic and so far the card is styill showing up in /va/log/syslog as 'unsupported' when I hotplug it01:17
czrah, sure01:17
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aghasterhi01:18
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coag:O01:18
dooglus_jason: like this: echo 'abcdef' > file.txt; python -c "f = open('file.txt', 'r+'); f.seek(3); f.write('z')"; cat file.txt01:18
jesseHow Do You Install A Deb Package01:18
xangel36yo mean chmod +x PlaneShift_CBV0.3.011.linux.x86-2.run01:18
aghasterhey i would like to create a ftp server on my ubuntu system01:18
aghasterhow to do this on ubuntu?01:18
vilefridgejesse:  sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb01:18
seth_k|lappyjesse, sudo dpkg -i /path/to/the.deb01:18
_jasondooglus, ah thanks! you didn't have to, I would have looked it up :)01:18
vilefridge:)01:18
seth_k|lappyi win :P01:18
vilefridgehehe01:18
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jessewhats sudo01:18
jessewere do i type that01:18
seth_k|lappySUperuser DO01:18
rosenaghaster, dont you have gFTP installed ? I mean ... isnt it included on the CD ?01:19
seth_k|lappyand you type it in terminal01:19
dooglus_jason: it's ok.  helps me remember it too :)01:19
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redeemanhello01:19
rosenaghaster, programs -> internet -> gFTP01:19
redeemananyone that could point me to the apt .deb package? adept somehow uninstalled it at a friend01:19
navaronerosen...aghaster needs server not client01:19
yo2luxi want to install gnupg with apt but i get the following error: gnupg is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded. What need to do?01:19
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rosenoh I thought both was in that01:19
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jessethat deb package is on my desktop so how to i find the path01:20
dooglus_jason: if you want to specify the byte in hex: echo 'abcdef' > file.txt; python -c "f = file('file.txt', 'r+'); f.seek(3); f.write('%c' % 0x41)"; cat file.txt01:20
_jasonyo2lux, nothing, you have it already01:20
navaronerosen> not that I'm aware...but I haven't looked...<s>01:20
yo2luxi write gnupg but i don't see and answer01:20
yo2luxbash: gnupg: command not found01:20
_jasonyo2lux, gpg01:20
dooglusyo2lux: the command is 'gpg'01:20
mpm2hi randabis you have any ideas with pcmcia card failing to show up under ifconfig?01:20
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yo2luxthank you very much!01:21
Charllsheyo01:21
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rosennavarone, he can upload to others I know that much01:21
mahangu_how can I burn a VCD in ubuntu>01:22
rosennavarone, but other than that I'm blank ;) .. I just installed linux for the first time today ;)01:22
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Charllsmost ppl that suggest a linux distro for notebooks mention ubuntu. Why is that? is ubuntu based on debian?01:22
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dooglusCharlls: it's based on debian, yes.01:22
navaronerosen> aghaster wan t a package that will allow them to set upa  server on machine that will allow others to upload to and download from machine...not simply retrieve and upload01:22
dooglusCharlls: as for why people recommend it for notebooks, I don't know.01:22
randabismpm2: the card probably needs a module to be recognized01:23
mahangu_vcd creator?01:23
rosennavarone, yeah I understand now :>01:23
St^Anger^19mi never had better hardwate detection than with Ubuntu...never had a faster distro than Yoper...i like both01:23
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navaronerosen> first linux foray?01:23
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rosenI'm more interrested in knowing how I go about removing programs though ... stuff like Evolution and the likes01:23
redeemansorry01:23
redeemandid anyone answer?01:23
randabisCharlls: debian and ubuntu are sisters in a sense01:23
rosennavarone, foray ?01:23
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dooglusrosen "sudo apt-get remove evolution" ?01:23
HymnToLiferosen > better not remove evolution01:23
navaronerosen> first time suing any linux?01:23
markyHi , I'm back01:24
yo2luxexist a way to use the latest firefox 1.5 on ubuntu 5.10 ?01:24
mpm2randabis thank you I will use that + google to try and find the answer :-)01:24
navaroneusing*01:24
rosennavarone, yeah01:24
markyJason you still here01:24
TheMooseHi all. I'm having a few problems with my onboard soundcard (alsa = Creative Audigy LS), in a shuttle SD11G5. I read some docs, installed alsa 1.10, still no luck. Basically, the card is recognized, I have a mixer, but not sound. any idea?01:24
rosenHymnToLife, why is that ?01:24
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Charllsi see01:24
HymnToLifeit will mess up your gnome packages01:24
rosendooglus, thanks :)01:24
markyanyone got xine on ubuntu?01:24
navaronerosen> why do u want to remove evolution?01:24
GoldfishTheMoose: Use alsa-mixer, and check which ouputs are enabled.01:24
rosenHymnToLife, dang ... just seems like a waste  to have it lying around01:24
dooglusI'd like to stop evolution from loading up every time I click on the clock.01:24
randabismpm2: what kind of card is it?01:25
rosennavarone, I dont use it anyways ... when I get a gmail account I will start using a client but I'm told there was better out there anyways .. thunder-something01:25
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dooglusI used to be able to look at the calendar by clicking on the clock - but recently it's started trying to load evolution to show my task list, which takes far too long.01:25
rosenbut for now I'm stuck with a hotmail account01:25
vilefridgeubotu, tell vilefridge about mounting01:25
HymnToLifethunderbird01:25
rosenthat's the one01:25
navaronerosen> thunderbird... I use on windows but have not bothered changin email client here01:25
ssammarky, yes01:25
_jasonrosen, want a gmail invite?01:25
markyanybody - does xine work on01:25
dooglusrosen: do you want a gmail invitation?01:25
TheMooseGoldfish : Analog Center/LFR, Analog Front at 80%. Everything else is off, SPDIF/OUT is muted.01:25
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GoldfishI'm interested in how to use evolution between multiple machines. I have three computers. Only one is configured to download email and manage my calendar. Can't have three PCs fighting to own my email.01:26
ssammarky, install xine-ui01:26
rosenhehe not right now I got too much else to figure out as it is01:26
markywhere from? what package? ssam01:26
esc_apeI have a question that you guys might know the answer to. What is OS X based on? Freebsd?01:26
rosenmost of my drivers are not working 100% yet and still have some mounting issues popping up when I try to burn dvds01:26
mpm2randabis it's an orinoco pc card gold  8420-WD01:26
navaronerosen> ubuntu is best linux distro I have used...install and removing packages is a breeze01:26
jessehow do you install bin files01:26
ssammarky, xine-ui package, it might be in the universe01:26
markyssam the universe?01:27
dooglusrosen: the web interface on gmail is so good that I don't even bother downloading my email any more.01:27
mpm2randabis it shows up when I hotplug it in tail /var/log/syslog as 'unsupported card, agere'01:27
ssammarky, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto01:27
_jasonjesse, what are you tring to install01:27
rosennavarone, that's what I've heard .. I tried redhat and SuSe earlier (years ago) without much luck .. so wanted to give this one a shot01:27
HymnToLifenavarone > that's why it's called "breezy" :p01:27
markyssam thanks01:27
dptdoes anyone knows a program to replace corel draw that runs on linux?01:27
ssammarky, enjoy :-)01:27
ssamdpt, inkscape01:27
dptdoes anyone knows a program to replace corel draw that runs on linux?01:27
randabismpm2:  it might work with ndiswrapper01:27
dptok01:27
dptthanks01:27
navaronerosen> I have tried Caldera (ugh) and about three Mandrake/Mandriva versions01:27
dpti'll look for it01:27
jessesomething for amsn01:27
rosendooglus, my main issue is that I want my program to check for it without me having to remind it ... like once every hour or so01:28
ssamjesse, gaim01:28
rosennavarone, oh yeah I tried mandrake aswell ... that sucked :O01:28
_jasonjesse, chmod +x file; ./file01:28
HymnToLifeI have tried Mandrake, Fedora and SuSE, without much luck either01:28
rosenI got quake running on it though .. with openGL01:28
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navaronerosen> it looks nice...but kde and I did not see eye to eye...especially kppp back in the dial up days01:28
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jessehmm i dont like gaim very much01:28
jessei cant edit my stuff01:29
ssamHymnToLife, breezy is the code name for the version01:29
randabisesc_ape: OSX uses some BSD but it's really a breed of it's own01:29
jessechmod +x file; ./file whats that01:29
rosennavarone, oooh ... you've got much more experience in this field ... you allready lost me ;)01:29
HymnToLifessam > I know that, thnks01:29
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navaronerosen> kppp is used to dial to isp...kept dying on me back when I had 56k01:29
C_J_ProWould it be ok if I ask a GNOME related question in here even if it isn't for Ubuntu (it isn't even on a Debian Distro)01:30
HymnToLife56k stinks01:30
HymnToLifean I still have it :'(01:30
_jasonjesse, chmod +x file gives the file executable permissions and ./file will run the file (assuming you are in the directory where the file is located)01:30
FujitsuC_J_Pro: You just did then!01:30
ssamC_J_Pro, yes01:30
C_J_Prolet me get the error then01:30
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cafuegoC_J_Pro: Just keep in mind the response if probably not going to be useful.01:31
rosennavarone, ah allright.. it's pretty easy to set up a standard lan connection in this one ;)01:31
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joe_alfhave a question regarding gpg key. i've created one with expiration within 2 months. then send it on a keyserver. then i imported it on launchpad. my question is, let say my hard disk break before the 2 months expiration can i possibly recreate the gpg key or do i have to create a new one.01:31
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cafuegojoe_alf: You of course have a secure backup.01:31
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navaronerosen> I had this puppy installed in 40 minutes tops...however the partitioning was still a bumpy ride.01:31
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C_J_ProI am trying to start gnome-panel and it crashes upon initialization but only displays the warning "Failed to add file monitor /home/cjpro/.gtk-bookmarks: Unsupported operation"  I am running GNOME-Panel 2.12.101:32
dubniumanyone familiar with ppp configuration? I need to secure incoming ppp connections with a username/password, or ma address filter....01:32
markyssam you are clever, thats done it. thanks ;)01:32
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dooglusrosen: I use a program called 'gmail-notifier' to do that01:32
HymnToLifedubnium > which dialer are you using ?01:33
ssammarky, glad to help. you'll find load of goodys in the universe01:33
dooglusrosen: it uses gmail's RSS feed to check for new mail01:33
sethkC_J_Pro, do this:   rm -fr ~/.gtk-bookmarks01:33
sethkC_J_Pro, but do it _very_ carefully01:33
markyi'm off to browse it  , see you all later01:33
sethkC_J_Pro, you will lose your bookmarks, of course, but it will run01:33
dubniumHymnToLife, no dialer... just pda to laptop via bluetooth01:33
C_J_Prosthk: I still recieve the same error01:33
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C_J_ProI compiled GNOME myself, didn't use any prebuilt binaries01:34
C_J_ProI'm just asking here because ##gnome doesn't exactly have a fast reponse (if any at all)01:34
ssamC_J_Pro, do you have gamin or fam installed?01:34
dooglusrosen: I lied.  it's called checkgmail and it's here: http://checkgmail.sourceforge.net/01:34
cafuegoC_J_Pro: Perhaps considering switching to Ubuntu ;-)01:34
Dido-Guys... lol;) I've customized the panels and now somehow I can see my applications, they go somewhere in the corner when I minimize them (I can use only alt+tab)01:35
sethkC_J_Pro, then you probably need to erase ~/.gnome* as well01:35
C_J_Prossam: I have neither installed01:35
Dido-Guys... lol;) I've customized the panels and now somehow I can see my applications, they go somewhere in the corner when I minimize them (I can use only alt+tab)01:35
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dooglusDido-: you need to add the "window list" applet back onto your panel01:35
sethkC_J_Pro, you probably have a clash between config and/or cache file formats in the two versions01:35
sethkC_J_Pro, or, you goofed when you built it.  :)01:35
ssamC_J_Pro, they are file monitors, maybe gnome-panel needs one01:35
C_J_Prosethk: probably the latter01:36
rosennavarone, I didnt have any problems partitioning with ubunty ... I used the -killbill command01:36
Dido-dooglus oh:) thanks01:36
sethkC_J_Pro, you never know.  make sure it isn't finding executables from both the new and old versions01:36
rosenthanks dooglus I'll check it out01:36
navaronerosen> I had new drive and partitioned it leaving freespace for ubuntu01:36
C_J_Probah, forgot to install Gamin earlier01:36
sethkC_J_Pro, that's easy to get, because the default installation directory is different than the directory that ubuntu puts it in01:36
rosen....I got a girl sending me nekid pics so I'm a bit preoccupied :O01:36
pete__nekid01:36
pete__;-)01:37
navaronerosen> but took a few tried...before I realized I needed a bios upgrade01:37
Dr_WillisNakud!01:37
dooglusrosen: I'd get it to check every few minutes in that case :)01:37
C_J_ProNaked <_<01:37
HymnToLiferosen > I know the feeling...01:37
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navaronerosen> that's what the internet was made for...<s>01:37
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rosennavarone, ah ok it's probably easier when I just wanted the whole thing deleted01:37
HymnToLifelmao navarone01:37
navaronerosen> I have plenty o space now...plus still can play Halo01:38
rosendooglus, hehe it's on MSN though and a 10MB line ... just in case ;)01:38
rosenHymnToLife, of naked pictures ? .... maybe we should share our contacts ? :D01:38
rosennavarone, 'the internet is for porn .. grab your **** and double click .. porn porn porn'01:39
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C_J_Procafuego: Can't exactly switch back to ubuntu.  Not exactly an option at the moment...01:39
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cafuegoC_J_Pro: Why not?01:39
rosennavarone, ah ok I'm more of a rpg kind of guy ... I need to find some that will run on a linuxbox though ;)01:39
qt2hmpedersen, what port does the remote desktop use?01:39
C_J_ProHave to make my own distro for a competition01:39
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qt2err01:39
qt2hmm, what port does the remote desktop use?01:39
qt2XD01:39
dooglusqt2: 590001:40
czer323Is there a particular program I can download to make it easier to move a window inbetween the virtual desktops?  I'd like to just click on the window itself and move it.01:40
cafuegoC_J_Pro: get Ubuntu, do a search&replace, call it Gnoppix, done.01:40
qt2dooglus, thanks ^.^;01:40
cafuegoC_J_Pro: That works fine for hundreds of other distros ;-)01:40
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aSt3raLim trying to compile01:40
C_J_Prolol, I don't want it to be Debian based.  Just something with apt just never seemed right with me01:40
aSt3raLand i get the error 'no rule to make target'01:40
C_J_Procan't figure out what it is though01:40
aSt3raLwhat is the problem?01:40
_jasonczer323, idk but you can setup a keyboard shortcut for it01:41
cafuegoaSt3raL: The fact you're trying to compile when you perhaps shouldn't.01:41
navaroneczer323, when I move window/apps to another workplace I just right click and use menu01:41
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dooglusaSt3raL: is there a makefile?01:41
cafuegoaSt3raL: What are you building?01:41
aSt3raLthere is a makefile01:41
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kidI'm getting "~bash: startx: command no found" -- should I commit suicide? . . . or is there some other thing I can do to fix this01:42
aSt3raLa driver for a wifi adapter01:42
cafuegowhich one?01:42
Seveaskid, apt-get install ubuntu-desktop may help01:42
aSt3raLrt2500 linspire01:42
kidI'll give it a shot, thanks01:42
chaumurkykid: don't learn much commiting suicide...01:42
SeveasaSt3raL, this is not linspire01:42
aSt3raLthere is something about switching the name of a directory that i dont understand01:43
cafuegoI'm sure the rt2500 has prebuilt drivers in Ubuntu.01:43
SeveasaSt3raL, wiki.ubuntu.com/Rt2500Howto01:43
Seveasthere are drivers for/in Ubuntu01:43
navaroneis there a terminal command(s) for showing fan speed cpu temp etc...assuming you can with motherboard?01:43
Seveasdon't use linspire crap01:43
Dr_Willis'freespire' :P01:43
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Dr_Willisnavarone,  the 'lm-sensors' package can do that.01:43
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merlymy mbr or partition table or something is all messed up, and i don't have a windows system disk. anyone willing to help?01:44
chaumurkynavarone: lm-sensors. Not a trifle to set up unfortunately.01:44
kidmy sources.list is "default," well at least it was . . . used to be. Just turning this laptop on after a few months, has warty -- I'm getting lots of 403, forbidden at executed apt-get installs -- should I update my sources.list?01:44
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C_J_Prowait, who's using Linspire?01:44
david_m_eSeveas cze soundray bob2 ... main tiny .cpp prog: just main() with 1 printf to simply test all well with gcc install; however, my tiny prog returned error:  undefined reference to `__gxx_personality_v0'01:44
navaroneDr_Willis, I have tried them without success...I am using Asus A7M266 mb01:44
C_J_Prowhoever they are, show them something better01:44
chaumurkykid: using breezy?01:44
david_m_eczr01:44
kidWarty warthog01:44
chaumurkyahh01:45
dooglusdavid_m_e: install build-essential01:45
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chaumurkyold one01:45
USCRyan*Question* it seems like my totem doesnt work, i cant watch any type of video fileson the web -- any suggestions?01:45
kidWait, how do you mean to ask that? using breezy?01:45
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czrdavid_m_e, yes?01:45
merly!mbr01:45
ubotumerly: I give up, what is it?01:45
navaronechaumurky, you mean my mb should be sent out to pasture? lol01:45
_jasonUSCRyan, use mplayerplug-in01:45
david_m_ei believe i have already done that, dooglus, i shall try again01:45
chaumurkyjust wanted to know which version you were using01:45
aSt3raLwell ubuntu is supposed to have rt2500 support01:45
Seveasdavid_m_e, if it's c++, use cout << foo instead of printf(foo)01:45
aSt3raLhowever01:45
bob2david_m_e: dpkg -l build-essential | tail -n101:45
qt2dooglus, thanks.01:45
Dr_Willisnavarone,  you ran the 'sensors-detect' tool first ? and configured the lm-sensors right eh? checking the lm-sensors homepage woule be the next bet.01:45
bob2david_m_e: remember printf for C++ is in cstdio, tho01:45
USCRyan_jason, how?01:45
Seveasdavid_m_e, and use g++ for compiling, #include <iostream>, buy a programming book01:45
kidI did a apt-get dist-upgrade.. but weird things happened, and not much happened at that. Is it "worth" it updating? and furthermore.. how much time will it take, recently these things have become a bit too frightening01:46
aSt3raLshould it be where i can just plug in the usb wifi adapter and it works?01:46
_jasonUSCRyan, it's in synaptic01:46
randabisi'd use breezy unless you absolutely must use an ol version01:46
aSt3raLbecause thats not how it is for me at all heh01:46
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david_m_ebob2 that may be the problem01:46
navaroneDr_Willis,  ummm...nope...I have to dl sensor detect or is it part of gdesklets?01:46
bob2kid: if you have to ask, do not use dapper01:46
czrdavid_m_e, did you want something from me?01:46
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chaumurkywhat kind of internet connection do you have?01:46
USCRyan_jason, got it thanks01:46
david_m_eczr, i mispelled ur name earlier by several lines,01:46
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merlyteh computer boots into windows, no problem. But in the process of deleting an old partition, and creating a new one in gparted on the live cd, or in the process or removing some software, not gparted, fdisk, cfdisk, they don't see the drive correctly...01:46
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czrdavid_m_e, that doesn't answer the question though :-)01:47
kidbob2: I have warty.. I meant, upgrading a little bit not that much01:47
aSt3raLhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo01:47
aSt3raLit says it supports it01:47
aSt3raLwhat am i doing wrong here?01:47
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david_m_eczr:  undefined reference to `__gxx_personality_v0'  in tiny .cpp containing only 1 printf01:47
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dooglusczr: I just get g++ to compile a 1-line printf() program.01:47
bob2kid: then wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryUpgradeNotes, wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes01:47
doogluss/get/got/01:47
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chaumurkyfrom warty to breezy will require a LOT of downloading. better to get the Breezy iso and burn it. you can upgrade with that or do a fresh install01:48
bob2david_m_e: time to show us the code and the command line oyu ran, in #flood01:48
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bob2upgrading from warty to breezy will probably not work01:48
aSt3raLmy wifi adapter is on the supported hardware page01:48
czrdavid_m_e, and that has to do with me how? :-)01:48
david_m_ebob i shall try a different header file first, ok?01:48
david_m_ebrb01:48
dooglusdavid_m_e: this is my 2 line program.  can you compile it?01:48
dooglus#include <stdio.h>01:48
dooglusmain() { printf("hello world!\n"); }01:48
chaumurkybob2's right. many changes since warty01:48
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czrdooglus, and? :--)01:48
david_m_eczr you have been helpful just earler...01:48
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bob2that's not valid C++01:48
kid[ Seveas ] : kid, apt-get install ubuntu-desktop may help <-- it's adding stuff like.. openoffice, I don't want that -- as I learned from my past expierences, this laptop is 6 years old -- I just want to.. "startx" :D (which I don't seem to be able to do at this point)01:48
dooglusczr: I spelled david_m_e wrong.  like "czr"01:49
czrI don't support C++, it's evil and convoluted :-)01:49
bob2kid: upgrading without ubuntu-desktop is something you have to work through yourself01:49
bob2kid: ie look at the new things ubuntu-desktop installs in hoary (and breezy) and install the bits you want01:49
david_m_eczr are you accusing bill of creating c++ ?01:49
SCMarkis there any way to capture a realvideo stream?01:49
kidHow "hard" would it be? as to get X running, how many files will I have to look through and on so?01:49
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czrbesides, even I need sleep now and then, so I bid you all a fine evening here01:49
bob2SCMark: mplayer01:49
kidAhh.. alright, I'll try that.. thanks01:50
aghaster#include <iostream> int main() { std::cout << "Hello World!" << std::endl; return 0; }01:50
aghasteris valid C++01:50
bob2kid: not very if you're experienced with ubuntu/debian, kind hard otherwise01:50
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SCMarkbob2: there is an option to capture it?01:50
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bob2aghaster: do the args to main() match the prototype?01:50
bob2SCMark: -streamdump or -dumpstream01:50
mpm2bob2 I tried the noapic and acpi off options you suggested earlier, it looks like I got a slightly different version of a card that is listed as supported.... it's not being recognized01:50
aghasterhum?01:50
chaumurkykid: if you install a lightweight WM like xfce it's less bloaty and it'll pull in all the X stuff. I good place to work fom01:50
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navaronebob2 couldn't kid do server install and gimply install gdm and update manager after?01:50
aghasterno need to use main() args until you want to take care of command line arguments01:51
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chaumurkykid: eg sudo apt-get install xfce4     that should do it01:51
bob2main() is special-cased for that?01:51
kidbob2: I'm not at all.. first time trying Linux -- but I should be able to simply apt-get the things listed I see now (of course, given that I select a few) as I did the ubuntu-desktop, right?01:51
bob2navarone: sure, but that involves a reinstall01:51
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barbahello people: I'm about to install zope+plone on an ubuntu 5.10, but I read plone 2.1 needs zope 2.8.2 while ubuntu debian package is 2.8.1-5 release. How to fix it without installing zope from source? thnx01:51
navaronebob2> aahh...thought that was the case01:51
bob2kid: if you're careful, yes01:51
bob2barba: just install the ubuntu plone package01:51
bob2!+info plone breezy01:52
kidchaumurky: Yep, I learned that one thoroughly, as I put GNOME on a 6 year old laptop. I'm actually shooting for fluxbox this time, hoping everything goes nicely01:52
ubotuUpdating ubuntu files... please wait.01:52
ubotuplone: (content management system based on zope and cmf), section web, is optional. Version: 2.1-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 40 kB01:52
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Seveasbob2, ld is sort-of smart when it comes to main()01:52
chaumurkybob2: would apt-get install gnome be leaner?01:52
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bob2chaumurky: than ubuntu-desktop? yes.01:52
Seveasor actually, it's dl.so being smart01:52
chaumurkymaybe that's the best option for kid01:52
bob2surely the compiler is in charge of enforcing prototypes?01:52
ThePyromaniacthis will sound bloody stupid but how do i find my network IP on ubuntu? i know the dos versions...01:52
bob2ThePyromaniac: ip a, ifconfig01:53
kidYep, I'll try that.. as much as to get X running first of all. thanks for the time guys -- and wish me luck01:53
ThePyromaniacahh thanks bob201:53
ThePyromaniacgoogle woulnt tell me :D01:53
bob2everyone should learn ip01:53
bob2if only so they stop using interface aliases01:53
merlyif system -> disks can read my partitions correctly, can you tell me how to make cfdisk read them correctly?01:53
chaumurkykid: if you sudo apt-get install fluxbox that'll pull X in as well...01:53
kidchaumurky: Tried that many times, that doesn't work01:54
bob2merly: you'd need to elaborate on how cfdisk is failing to do that at the moment01:54
chaumurkyoh, ok01:54
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chaumurkymust admit - didn't try that myself01:54
kidI mean, I'm getting "~bash: startx: command not found"01:54
bob2kid: apt-cache show x-window-system-core01:54
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merlybob2 - cfdisk says "fatal error cannot open disk drive"01:54
bob2you need to make sure you don't get silly about removing things01:54
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bob2and only remove things you understand01:55
kidI wish to ask out of curiousity -- apt-cahce? how is that disparate from apt-get?01:55
merlybob2- i'm currently using the live cd on that computer, i haven't been able install successfully.01:55
bob2apt-cache displays various data from apt's package database cache01:55
bob2merly: what does 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/whatever' say?01:55
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bob2apt-get tells apt to install/remove things01:55
merlybob2 - /dev/hda1 , star by boot, start 1, end 9294, blocks 74654023+, id 7, system HPFS / NTFS01:56
St^Anger^19mhttp://www.pcbsd.org/?p=packages.....guys...should the linux world conside somethig of the sort...IMHO it's a gd idea01:56
St^Anger^19m?01:56
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bob2merly: and 'sudo cfdisk /dev/whatever'?01:57
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coagczr: hey01:57
bob2St^Anger^19m: no, it's stupid01:57
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St^Anger^19mbob2: why?01:57
inthaneAnybody interested in helping a n00b out in configuring WPA-PSK?01:57
bob2St^Anger^19m: why bother putting things in seperate directories?01:57
coagczr: it works now, i get picture, but there are these three fuzzy lines through it01:57
St^Anger^19mi tried it out and found it amazing01:57
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bob2St^Anger^19m: dpkg knows where everything is, it's trivial to remove files when you don't need them anymore01:58
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St^Anger^19mbob2: makes more logical sense01:58
coagczr: and it only goes up to 640 48001:58
bob2St^Anger^19m: no it doesn't01:58
inthaneTried the howto, and it's not working.01:58
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bob2St^Anger^19m: I don't care what "application" provides 'ls'01:58
bob2St^Anger^19m: I just care that it's in /bin01:58
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St^Anger^19mbob2: not OS specific apps01:58
merlybob2: hrmm. it comes up... it looks right from here... I think it's wrong01:58
St^Anger^19mbob2: just something similar to "Program Files"01:59
bob2St^Anger^19m: why does it matter?01:59
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St^Anger^19mbob2: easier to the user imo01:59
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bob2St^Anger^19m: again, what is the point?  do you really think /ProgramFiles/OpenOffice2/bin/OpenOffice2 is simpler than /usr/bin/oofice201:59
merlybob2 - it's got partition hda1, size 76445 MB01:59
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bob2St^Anger^19m: in what situation is a clueless user usign a path to an executable? as opposed to selecting it from a menu.02:00
bob2merly: ok...02:00
ZugwrackAnyone here know if there are mac utilities like fsck that I can run to check and fix my primary mac partition? I boot to a second disk for Ubuntu..02:00
jonmasterssomeone tried that in some pointless distro which used pretty names. How pointless :-)02:00
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St^Anger^19mbut each software is encapsulated02:00
bob2St^Anger^19m: if you really care, I can write yo uthe 3 line shell script that makes /usr/PACKAGENAME/ and puts all the files in there02:00
St^Anger^19mits on its own02:00
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bob2St^Anger^19m: so what?02:00
Trashcanbob2: you know an easy way to free dpkg's lock after it crashes?02:01
bob2St^Anger^19m: it doesn't need to be encapsulated, this isn't some half-arsed system like windows.  every single file from a package is accounted for and can be removed with one command.02:01
merlybob2 - - i think you fixed it/ :v)02:01
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St^Anger^19mbob2: u may be experience in linux usage...but as a newbie, i found it to be more logical02:01
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bob2St^Anger^19m: in what situations do you see the paths at all?02:01
St^Anger^19mPC-BSD isnt windows :S02:01
bob2Trashcan: dpkg crashed?02:01
Trashcanbob2: segfaulted installing a local package02:01
bob2PC-BSD seems to be some lame freebsd fork02:01
pete__is dapper coming after breezy?02:02
bob2pete__: yes02:02
St^Anger^19mbob2: PBI is not only about directory name02:02
St^Anger^19mits about the Installer too02:02
pete__is their an eta on dapper?02:02
bob2Trashcan: check "dmesg"02:02
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bob2Trashcan: also, sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lok02:02
bob2pete__: ubuntu comes out every 6 onths02:02
yaaarword02:02
yaaaris there a package for firefox 1.5 yet? or anybody know when there's likely to be?02:02
Trashcansweet, thanks bob202:02
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Trashcanwhat am i looking for in dmesg?02:03
bob2St^Anger^19m: that's also silly; ubuntu and debian have a package installer that works for 12 000 packages already.02:03
pete__yaar yes, there is on the forums.02:03
david_m_edooglas: the difference between ur prog and mine was the newline \n in yours and a /n in mine; amazing that that made the error it did02:03
Trashcanbesides [4395483.757000]  kernel BUG at <bad filename>:21387! :p02:03
bob2Trashcan: kernel oops, disk error...I always get suspicous when things like dpkg segfault ;)02:03
bob2hah02:03
bob2dpkg wins again02:03
St^Anger^19mbob2: its not what works alone that is important..its HOW it works...02:03
Trashcanhehe02:03
dooglusdavid_m_e: say it's not so!02:03
merlyhow do i know how big to make my new partitions?02:03
pete__yaar,02:03
XsXsi have my volume turned up all the way on the volume control in ubuntu and also in xmms. are there other sound settings? mine aint playin too loud02:03
pete__http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=99004&highlight=firefox+1.502:03
St^Anger^19mnow i found apt-get to be superior to any other package system02:03
bob2St^Anger^19m: in what way do you find package installation on PC-BSD easier than on ubuntu?02:03
dooglusdavid_m_e: printf("hello/n") shouldn't be a problem!02:03
St^Anger^19mbut this PBI is worth a look02:03
XsXsgot it turned up on the controller too02:03
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david_m_enow i remember why i hate c++ so much: the error message doesn't seem to be related to the actual coding mistake02:04
pete__XSXS done alsamixer ?02:04
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XsXsno i havent02:04
david_m_edooglus i know02:04
dooglusdavid_m_e: what was your program?02:04
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dooglusdavid_m_e: can you show it here?02:04
pete__try alsa mixer.02:04
XsXsnever heard of it02:04
XsXsim new ;)02:04
XsXsi will look though02:04
pete__alsamixer*02:04
XsXsthanks02:04
cyphasewhat's the best way to take high resolution photos and orint them on 4X6 photo paper?02:04
cyphaseprint*02:04
cyphasein ubuntu02:04
david_m_edooglus, the only dif 'tween urs and mine was the $ inside the printf ""02:04
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Seveasdavid_m_e, whya re you uning printf in c++02:05
Seveas?02:05
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david_m_eseveas i was only trying to determine if all of the pieces of the dev system were in place and working properly02:05
dooglusdavid_m_e: '$'?02:05
david_m_ehence, a tiny test program02:05
sambagirlthis is to heavy for humanbeings02:05
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david_m_e$ = string02:06
St^Anger^19mi'm a newbie...but i get the impression there's some kind of war between linux ppl and bsd ppl :( sorry for bringing the topic up02:06
dooglusooh.  :)  you remind me of my old Sinclair ZX Spectrum :)02:06
david_m_esorry, $ is a BASIC reference02:06
ThePyromaniachey guys, anyone use and happy with a bittorrent client?02:06
bob2St^Anger^19m: no, there's no war02:06
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sambagirlno the war is between gnome and kde or something like that.02:06
david_m_edon't get me going dooglus02:06
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psycodesure there is a war :)02:06
dooglusdavid_m_e: what was your string then?02:06
bob2St^Anger^19m: some of the netbsd, openbsd and freebsd are extraordinarily smart and great coders, and they produce very nice operating systems02:07
Seveaspsycode, but not in here02:07
david_m_e"this is a test/n"02:07
psycodeSeveas, oh ofcourse not...02:07
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St^Anger^19mpc-bsd is based on free-bsd02:07
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bob2yes02:07
St^Anger^19mor so i read02:07
St^Anger^19mi have no idea wot "based on" means :)02:07
david_m_ebut notice the FORE slash, not a backslash: that makes it a formatting char, which should not have generated the error that it did; don't have a clue02:07
dooglusdavid_m_e: I can't reproduce your error by changing the \ to a /02:08
ThePyromaniacanyone using Azureus? cant get it to download or doanything. NAT ERROR02:08
bob2where did david_m_e put his code up?02:08
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St^Anger^19mi love KDE looks, Gnome feels more complete though....so wot shall i do?02:08
KyralUse Fluxbox ;P02:08
dooglusThePyromaniac: I use azureus.  it crashes sometimes, uses far too much RAM, but it otherwise OK.02:08
SeveasSt^Anger^19m, install both?02:08
chaumurkyxfce402:08
bob2St^Anger^19m: use whatever you want02:09
St^Anger^19mFluxbox is weird :S02:09
SeveasSt^Anger^19m, twm02:09
bob2all newbies seem to go through some obsessive fanboy/girl stage02:09
Seveasbob2, :)02:09
ThePyromaniacdooglus did you have to do anything to your firewall or router to allow it?02:09
david_m_edooglus bob2 i'm not surprised ... c++ programming always reminded me of those scientists who make claims that can' be duplicated by credible researchers02:09
St^Anger^19mtwm?02:09
bob2hah02:09
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bob2I'm very glad to be using python instead of c++ right now02:09
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dooglusThePyromaniac: it works without any router/firewall config, but you get better transfer rates if you forward the bittorrent port on your router.  the default is 6881, but it's a good idea to pick your own and forward that.  some ISPs block port 688102:09
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squireFluxbox? Well DSL is superb02:10
chaumurkySt^Anger^19m: have a look at http://www.xfce.org/ - another consideration02:10
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squire:)02:10
Dr_WillisIm usng DSL on my old laptop even now.02:10
Dr_Williswell its being used by the kids. :P02:10
squire:P02:10
St^Anger^19mxfce looks ok02:10
St^Anger^19mbut its not as nice as KDE02:10
St^Anger^19m:)02:10
ThePyromaniacdooglus right well i installed and ran, i got some torrents that are already halfway through downloading via my windows BitTorrent client. they are on 78.1% of whatever. it takes 1 month checking then does nothing02:10
St^Anger^19mwots it TWM?02:10
ThePyromaniaci added 6881 - 6889 to firestarter and router02:11
squireKDE is nice02:11
david_m_enot that i'm down on c++; it appears to me to be a pretty clear case of the language being a jet and i'm a biplane pilot02:11
dooglusThePyromaniac: it should only check the partial download once.02:11
ThePyromaniaci dont know what else to do as i wan following a guide02:11
chaumurkyit's a balance between gnome and KDE - kde makes my teeth hurt...02:11
bob2c++ is kinda a superset of all other languages02:11
dooglusThePyromaniac: (and then again after every crash (!))02:11
St^Anger^19mAND kde and gnome fills u with apps u dont need02:11
bob2which gives people several thousand ways to hang themselves02:11
phantomcircuit-aand you02:11
bob2St^Anger^19m: that's not the case02:11
merlyok bob2 trouble again.02:11
CaptainMorgani have kwifimanager running... says Im connected, giving a nice signal strength... in System/Administration/Networking atho is activated and running... however, I go to open a browser or other net app and I get no connection.. what's up?02:11
bob2some people seem to try to use as much of the C++ standard in each app as they an, too02:11
St^Anger^19mwhy not have a GUI and let the user decide wot to install?02:12
chaumurkykubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop has far more apps than just KDE or Gnome02:12
squireall OSs have apps that u don't need02:12
St^Anger^19msquire: then all OS's suck in that regard02:12
ThePyromaniacdooglus well right now its just sat ere and i got no ideas how to make the percentage bars move, heh02:12
KyralThose packages are actually the standard installs for Ubuntu and Kubuntu respectively02:12
chaumurkyyeah, PC's suck...02:12
merlybob2 i used gparted, changed /dev/hda1 size 72GB to 50GB. and it said no problem. but then i typed cfdisk /dev/hda fatal error; cfdisk /dev/hda1 Bad primary partition 0 Partition begins after end-of-disk02:12
bob2St^Anger^19m: you seem to be confused, that is precisely how it works02:12
dooglusThePyromaniac: try it on a widely available torrent, like the ubuntu ones02:13
St^Anger^19mbob2: I AM :)02:13
squirePC architecture is a bag of spanners02:13
ThePyromaniacdooglus ok02:13
bob2merly: cfdisk may not work until you reboot02:13
merlybob2. ok. rebooting02:13
bob2merly: poking the partition table at runtime can confuse things02:13
chaumurkysquire: nice analogy02:13
bob2tho it should do some magic IOCTL or something so it's ok02:13
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brendan__hi, are updates between ubuntu releases usually smooth?02:14
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merlywhile i'm waiting. it's sort of ironic - i bought the little 64 bit to replace this laptop. and now i'm using this one for support for that one.02:14
merly!02:14
Kyralbrendan__: Usually lol02:14
ubotumerly: Are you on ritalin?02:14
brendan__or does it usually require a reinstall02:14
brennrjwas for me02:14
dooglusThePyromaniac: http://www.portforward.com/help/portforwarding.htm will tell you how to forward the port on your router if you need help with that02:14
Kyralbrendan__: 90% of the time it goes with minimal breakage02:14
bob2brendan__: yes02:14
kidon apt-get, I'm getting lots of 4.03 -- I have a 5.04 disc.. and warty on the laptop - should I (and how could I) have the apt-get concern itself with the disc inserted in only02:14
bob2brendan__: no reinstall, usually works02:14
bob2kid: by editig /etc/apt/sources.list02:15
brendan__Kyral: the 10% of the time when something breaks, what is it?02:15
St^Anger^19mhave u ppl tried XPDE?02:15
brendan__i mean, what kinds of things break02:15
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brennrjbrendan__: went from 4.10 to warty to breezy on my T30 no problems02:15
merlybob2 - i inserted the install disk on reboot. i hope that's o.k.02:15
CaptainMorgani have kwifimanager running... says Im connected, giving a nice signal strength... in System/Administration/Networking atho is activated and running... however, I go to open a browser or other net app and I get no connection.. what's up?02:15
frogzooSt^Anger^19m: k, Il bite - whats XPDE?02:15
Kyralbrendan__: I think the biggest one was the Accelerated GFX modules02:15
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brendan__oh ok02:16
brendan__thats no big deal02:16
Kyralbrendan__: But I wouldn't knoe02:16
CaptainMorgananybody use konversation over X-chat? which do you like beset ?02:16
St^Anger^19mhttp://www.xpde.com/02:16
St^Anger^19ma win-like DE02:16
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Kyralbrendan__: I'm one of the crazy SOBs that goes and tests the Devel release :P02:16
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merlyst anger did you try xubuntu of xfce?02:16
brendan__Kyral: oh,02:16
St^Anger^19mxubunut is ubuntu on xfce?02:17
merlyof=or02:17
merlyst yes02:17
merlyst - a server install02:17
St^Anger^19mno i never tried02:17
KyralSt^Anger^19m: yes02:17
KyralSt^Anger^19m: Its Ubunut with XFCE as default02:17
merlyst - i just installed it on my p3 70002:17
St^Anger^19mi've seen XFCE screenies02:17
merlyand it pWns winxp hee hee02:17
merlymuch fasta02:17
qt2err, i've got a strange rrror when trying to install nvidia-glx by following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia:  Error: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 or /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum are missing from your system. Please be sure that your xserver package is installed correctly.02:17
St^Anger^19mis it normal to find WINXP gui faster than KDE?02:18
qt2i've got xorg-core installed, so i dont know what the problem is... o.O;02:18
psycodeSt^Anger^19m, yes02:18
St^Anger^19m:(02:18
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psycodeSt^Anger^19m, have you tried gnome?02:18
St^Anger^19myes02:18
St^Anger^19meven gnome seem slower02:18
CaptainMorganam I on ignore or what??02:18
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CaptainMorgan:)02:18
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intelikeySt^Anger^19m for some things xp is faster yes02:18
merlybob2 - on reboot, in cfdisk or whatever the insall utility is - - it just sees hda1 as 76.4 GB02:18
merlybob2 but thats what i thought i just resized02:19
bob2merly: is that incorrect?02:19
bob2ok02:19
St^Anger^19mbut i want linux :)02:19
merlybob2 i changed it to 5002:19
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merlymebbe i could try it in here?02:19
Sysaceguys.. I just installed the ATI Proprietary drivers from the ati website, toshiba laptop (P4 3GHz, 512MB), Ati Mobility Radeon 9000.  Before the ati drivers I was getting 640fps from glxgears, now I'm getting 150fps.. can anybody please help or advise?02:20
qt2anyone have any idea why it's looking for the old XF86 config instead of the xorg.conf? :o02:20
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bclSysace, go back to the other driver :) the same thing happened with my desktop.02:20
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brennrjanyone seen problems booting 2.6.12-9-amd64-k8-smp or 2.6.12-10-amd64-k8-smp? ie: Unable to handle kernel02:20
brennrjpaging request at virtual address nnnnnnnn02:20
merlybob2 i am trying to resize the hda1 partition using cfdisk or whatever the installation utility is. But, it doesn't display on my screen correctly until i get it all the way installed - th ebottom of the display is sqished up on the top - - like it's out of sync.02:20
Sysacebcl:  anything I can do to get better frame rates otherwise?02:20
Ratty_hi, how do i make automount mount as read/write, at the moment it mounts everything as readonly making it compeltely useless02:20
bclSysace, I haven't bothered to even try.02:21
St^Anger^19mhttp://www.xpde.com/shots/startmenu.png -> this would be cool on Ubuntu02:21
merlybob2 - so i can't tell what it says, don't know how to change it.02:21
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qt2well... nevermind... seems to have been fixed by uninstalling and reinstalling xorg. :E02:21
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MikhailTSt^Anger^19m: why not just use Windows instead02:22
St^Anger^19mcoz i want linux underneath02:22
St^Anger^19mits just the Windows GUI which i find good02:22
St^Anger^19mnot the price ;)02:22
MikhailT:P02:22
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brennrjmerly: this is with the text mode installer?02:23
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bclSt^Anger^19m, I think there are XP themes for Gnome. Never tried them myself though.02:23
SeveasSt^Anger^19m, xpde is pure crap - it's a half implemented sort-of de that is not even supported by its creator02:23
arndtlMoin erstmal02:23
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Seveas!de02:23
ubotuI guess de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de02:23
Ratty_is there no way to make an external drive read/write in ubuntu?02:23
merlybob2, it won't let me resize here either. i type in 50gb, hit enter for continue, but it comes back and it still says 76GB02:23
MikhailTthe only thing i want from windows is the goddamn drivers to be on linux :|02:23
St^Anger^19mSeveas: but the idea is good in a way02:23
_Gray_Ratty_: yes there is but it cant be ntfs02:24
Ratty_it's not02:24
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SeveasSt^Anger^19m, grab yourself an xp-like theme for gnome/kde and you're done too02:24
Ratty_it's just a usb mem stick, fat32 i guess02:24
Ratty_it automounts when i plug it in but the filesystem is read only02:24
_Gray_Ratty_: then yes you can mount it02:24
St^Anger^19mcan u suggest one for gnome?02:24
kidsomething wrong with security.ubuntu.com? my connection seems to keep failing as I'm trying to apt-get install x-window-system-core02:24
Ratty_i knowi  can mount it02:24
Ratty_i want to write to it though02:24
dooglusRatty_: you're the 3rd person I've seen with this problem in the last few hours02:24
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_Gray_past the output of cat /etc/fstab02:24
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rosenmm ... I'm trying to install checkGmail using the guide on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60418 ... but I get an error while running one of the commands (I have no idea what I'm doing)02:24
dooglus_Gray_: it's automounted02:24
Ratty_it's not in fstab, it's automount02:24
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rosenthis is the command that's giving me issues02:25
rosensudo perl -MCPAN -e 'install XML::Simple'02:25
_Gray_Ratty_: oh yeah02:25
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oudeishi. does anyone know how can i track cd orders from shipit? it says cds shipped a while ago(almost 2 months), but that's it02:25
dooglusrosen: fast forward to the last but one post.02:25
Ratty_did any of the previous people that asked get an answer?02:25
_Gray_oudeis: it took me like 3 months to get mine02:25
dooglusrosen: some guy posted a much better way of installing it02:25
dooglusrosen: I forget his name.02:25
oudeis_Gray_: thanks02:25
Seveasrosen, ewwwww02:25
Seveasrosen, apt-get install libxml-simple-perl02:26
rosendooglus, ah ok thanks02:26
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Seveasrosen, don't use cpan for installing perl modules, apt-get does it for you02:26
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trigg3rhi everyone02:26
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techrushhi02:26
Ratty_hmz02:26
brennrjhi02:26
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dooglusrosen: this one: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=c73b49ec65b87bdace74cc69b0952670&p=372215&postcount=10602:26
rosenSeveas, I just installed linux today and am totally blank about what I'm doing ... I need default answers to guide me through this ;)02:26
Ratty_guess not02:26
zenAny idea why Kopete might not be able to make a tray icon? (no icon, crashes on close-box minimize)02:27
bob2merly: resizability depends on a lot of factors02:27
MikhailTdoes anybody ever get ati x800xl to work with ubuntu 5.10 on nforce 4 boards?02:27
Ratty_maybe in 2 years linux will be read for the desktop02:27
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MikhailTfat chances02:27
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dooglusRatty_: I don't think they did, no.  But we've got bob2 and Seveas now, so maybe they can help...02:27
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MikhailTRatty_, more like 20 years02:27
halibutFF1.5 gmail, and no greasemonkey? http://rivex.no-ip.org/gmskins.xpi  thanks for testing =)02:27
merlybob2 - i have almost no data on it. in windows disk manager, it says the partition is 71 GB (instead of 76). is that normal?02:27
zenMikhailT, As in display or 3D?02:27
MikhailTdisplay, dont care much for 3d02:27
bob2Ratty_: please don't be stupid02:27
dooglusRatty_: is the device mounted 'rw', but trying to write it tells you 'read-only filesystem'?02:28
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Ratty_it seems all the problems will linux on the desktop are small things, but they never get fixed02:28
MikhailTmerly yea its normal02:28
trigg3rhi all...i need a little info please..is there a way to keep windows network shares from appearing on the desktop? they're in the "places" menu anyway, so i want them off the desktop..02:28
bob2Ratty_: also, fat32 should be mountred rw; if not, it's a bug, please report it02:28
intelikeyRatty_  hmmm we been using linux on desktops for several years already,   what problem you having?02:28
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CaptainMorgani have kwifimanager running... says Im connected, giving a nice signal strength... in System/Administration/Networking atho is activated and running... however, I go to open a browser or other net app and I get no connection.. what's up?02:28
bob2Ratty_: more likely it's HFS+ or NTFS, though02:28
Ratty_intelikey: it doesn't automount memsticks are readwrite02:28
zenMikhailT, My X800XTPE works fine, but I had to download the xorg rpm, alien it, and dpkg it then run fglrxconfig to get video from the x server02:28
Ratty_bob2: it's fat3202:28
dooglusbob2: the last 2 guys with this problem had vfat devices mounted 'rw', but saw 'readonly filesystem' errors.02:28
bob2Ratty_: show us the output from 'mount'02:28
zenMikhailT, for my friend's X600SE02:28
dooglusRatty_: "mount | grep -i fat"02:28
Ratty_/home/ratty/public_html/work/realbuzz.com/newblog02:29
bob2right, which is the card being fucked, and not fixable in software02:29
Ratty_oops02:29
Ratty_/dev/sdc1 on /media/RAT'S MP3S type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=winnt,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)02:29
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intelikeyRatty_ mounts are controlled in fstab    man fstab02:29
brennrjanyone seen problems booting 2.6.12-9-amd64-k8-smp or 2.6.12-10-amd64-k8-smp? worked fine on a gentoo 2.6.10 build02:29
Ratty_automount isn't02:29
bob2intelikey: that is not the case02:29
rosendooglus, so what about the stuff I allready did ? ... should I just forget about that and hope nothing conflicts or ?02:29
andrew_Im having an odd reccurring issue with gnome02:29
zenas a side note, which FS type gives best general performance?02:29
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Ratty_kind of a bitch if i have to modify fstab every time i stick a memstick in02:29
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zenI chose Reiser02:29
bob2brennrj: you need to provide a lot more detail02:29
tracerIs there an online tutorial for newbies, if so, what's the url?02:29
Ratty_windows just mounts it and i'm away02:29
andrew_Every now and then my mouse starts drifting upwards, and my keyboard stops responding02:29
SeveasRatty_, memsticks should NOT be in fstab02:29
bob2tracer: tutorial for what?02:29
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merlybob2- this all started with some troublesome Phoenix recovery software. :v) it is still on the disk I think.02:29
dooglusrosen: try it.  should be OK I think02:29
MikhailTi guess i'll just continue to use ubuntu via vmware til ati releases a stable ubuntu package02:30
andrew_Restarting gnome fixes the problem02:30
bob2Ratty_: show us the last 10 lines of 'dmesg' in #flood02:30
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rosendooglus, cool I will .. thanks alot02:30
andrew_Anyone got any guesses about the cause of that?02:30
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brennrjbob2: messages like this on console at boot: http://linux-setup.news-view.co.uk/topic-5470.html02:30
red_foxhow do I start a service, like ssh?02:30
trigg3rany takers please? ...is there a way to keep windows network shares from appearing on the desktop? they're in the "places" menu anyway, so i want them off the desktop..02:30
brennrj( thats not me )02:30
Seveasred_fox, invoke-rc.d ssh stary02:30
bob2red_fox: it's already started02:30
zenMikhailT, ATI's drivers have always sucked.  You might be waiting a few years.02:30
Seveasstart even*02:30
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red_foxbob2, not for me ;-)02:30
MikhailTzen, well thats true but look at the last 5 months of linux releases from ati compared to the last 5 years02:30
red_foxSeveas, thanks02:30
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Seveasred_fox, the ssh server is not installed by default02:31
zenMikhailT, I'll give you that.  They've improved massively.02:31
bob2brennrj: that person will not get help unless they can replicate the issue without the nvidia driver02:31
bob2red_fox: it runs when it is installed (openssh-server)02:31
red_foxSeveas, yeah I think my friend already apt-got it02:31
Seveasred_fox, then it will be started already02:31
intelikeySeveas granted i am not using ub but why would memsticks not mount via fstab ?02:31
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red_foxbob2, Seveas, yeah you guys are right, thanks02:32
Seveasintelikey, no02:32
MikhailTzen, yea i just hope they continue like that and maybe just maybe, it'll be ready for one simple apt-get installl command within a year02:32
Ratty_bob2: any idea why it decided to mount read only?02:32
bob2intelikey: because yo ucan't guess what device name they will have in advane?02:32
Seveasudev/hotplug/hal do that for you02:32
zenMikhailT, I look forward to when ATI's drivers work on AMD64 w/ 3D02:32
dooglusRatty_: what do you see if you try to:       touch "/media/RAT'S MP3S/myfile.txt"02:32
intelikeybob2 hmmmm  k02:32
Ratty_touch: cannot touch `/media/RAT\'S MP3S/myfile.txt': Read-only file system02:32
bob2Ratty_: uh, because the filesystem is corrupt?02:32
Seveasah I overlooked the *why* :)02:32
Ratty_it's not corrupt on a windows machine02:32
zenMikhailT, But to be honest, nVidia isn't much better.  Their performance is a lot better but installing them is a bitch02:32
Ratty_or a mac02:32
dooglusbob2: any idea?  it's mounted 'rw', yet is a 'read-only file system'.  he's the 3rd this evening.02:32
bob2Ratty_: run chkdsk on it or something02:33
intelikeySeveas np02:33
bob2Ratty_: if you've found a bug in the linux vfat driver, report it02:33
bob2I think that's fairly unlikely, though02:33
bob2Ratty_: this is breezy, right?02:33
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Ratty_5.1002:33
bob2Ratty_: what does 'uname -r' print?02:33
brennrjbob2: I get similar messages, but I'm not running the nvidia driver ( Unable to handle kernel02:33
brennrjpaging request... ) Is there a way I can capture that console on my system?02:33
Ratty_install but 2 days ago02:33
Ratty_2.6.12-10-38602:33
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MikhailTzen, i would say nvidia is still better at default boot, i never had a lot of hassles trying to install OS on nvidia cards whereas on ATI, it just freaks out and a lot of stuff has to be done via commands to get it to boot02:33
bob2dooglus: the mount options are not updated when the filesystem driver panics, it seems02:34
bob2which is a bit surprisig02:34
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bob2brennrj: sure your ram is ok?02:34
acetech!kernel02:34
CaptainMorganyo! fellow linux lover in need of assistance..02:34
dooglusbob2: so it was mounted rw, then something went wrong, the fs driver switched to rw to protect the device?02:34
bob2CaptainMorgan: there's no need to try to sell yourself02:34
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brennrjbob2: never had problems running gentoo... will the memcheck find it if it is bad?02:34
bob2CaptainMorgan: apparently no one uses/cares about kwifimanager; perhaps try their channel or #kubuntu02:34
bob2or the mailing list, etc02:35
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bob2brennrj: memtest86 will, yes02:35
Ratty_invalid cluster chain02:35
bob2dooglus: yup02:35
Ratty_hmm02:35
bob2Ratty_: from chkdsk?02:35
CaptainMorganbob - thanks, there is no channel for kwifi.. checked02:35
Ratty_nah from dmsg02:35
CaptainMorgankubuntu ?02:35
acetechanyone know how i can find a walkthrough on recompiling a ubuntu kernel?02:35
brennrjbob2: ok - I guess I'll let that run overnight02:35
bimberitrigg3r: Applications -> System Tools -> Configuration Editor, apps -> nautilus -> desktop, uncheck "volumes_visible"02:35
CaptainMorganIll give it a sot, thanks02:35
dooglusbob2: odd that 3 different people here are all having the same problem though, isn't it?02:35
Ratty_there no fat chkdsk in linux?02:35
Seveastrigg3r, gconf-editor, look in /apps/nautilus/desktop02:35
bob2yes, that's the driver saying the filesystem is broken02:35
brennrjbob2: thanks - youre a multitasking maniac... :)02:35
_Gray_trigg3r: mount them somewhere other than /media02:35
bob2dooglus: yes...hence why I asked his/her kernel version, I thought perhaps dapper had just got a bug like that02:35
bob2brennrj: np02:36
Ratty_i shall reboot to windoze and see02:36
zenMikhailT, I had to install quite a few packages on my friend's machine to get the nVidia installer to run, set some temp vars, and recompile the driver every time his computer boots...which is about twice a month, granted.02:36
Ratty_brb02:36
david_m_erosen i've not been at my desk for about 5 minutes; did u get the new-to-linux info u needed?02:36
Seveasdooglus, fat breaking is often the result of not unmounting before pulling the stick out02:36
St^Anger^19mWin Vista GUI seems to be copying a lot from OS X TIger02:36
zenMikhailT, I just look forward to the day when -all- drivers install a lot easier and more reliably02:36
intelikeyRatty_ fsck.vfat02:36
Seveasand no, windows does not detect that until you run chkdsk - talk about broken....02:36
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acetechanyone know how i can find a walkthrough on recompiling a ubuntu kernel?02:36
bob2acetech: why do you want to recompile it?02:36
Seveasacetech, search for kernel on the wiki02:36
_Gray_acetech: ubuntu forums02:36
Sneaky_BastardI always thought it was Windows "Mist-uh", because it's really vaporware02:37
MikhailTSt^Anger^19m, Vista's GUI is one ugly interface, there is no consistency anywhere. I still think OS X got the best interface anywhere on the planet02:37
bimberiubotu tell acetech about kernelcompile02:37
acetechbob2, cause, i want to get rid of some of the uneeded02:37
Seveas_Gray_, eww, the last kernel guides I saw there sucked...02:37
bob2acetech: why?02:37
bob2acetech: it doesn't consume any ram [*] 02:37
bob2* not actually true02:37
_Gray_Seveas: oh02:37
SeveasSneaky_Bastard, this is not a windows bashing channel...02:37
rosendavid_m_e, yeah I got a link to help me out but one of the commands is yet again making trouble02:38
david_m_eSeveas i've a ? for you... when my ubuntu boots, it says something to the effect of <something> RAID devices... is that always part of ubuntu, or does ubuntu know something about my 'puter that i don't?02:38
sethkbob2, uses only a trival amount of ram is more accrate, I suppose02:38
_Gray_Just realised your a mod02:38
MikhailTzen, that'll be the day when linux is really ready for desktop, i cant believe ati nor nvidia isnt setting up a private package managment so that all the linux distro just need to include a simple command to get the latest drivers matching the kernal that the user is running from02:38
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rosenwhen I try this cd /home/user/checkgmail-1.3 && mkdir Crypt && wget -O Crypt/Simple.pm http://search.cpan.org/src/KASEI/Crypt-Simple-0.06/Simple.pm it says 'no such file or archive'02:38
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St^Anger^19mMikhailT: yes OS X is NEAT02:38
Seveasdavid_m_e, you can ignore these messages02:38
dooglusrosen: just a mo - I'll check02:38
bob2david_m_e: it checks on boot to see if you have software raid it should be dealing with02:38
bob2david_m_e: it does nothing if you don't have any02:38
david_m_ebob2 Seveas thanks02:38
intelikeyhow about becuse the ext2/3 drivers are not compiled in and i what them in the kernel so i don't need an initrd   :)02:39
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Ratty_blegh windows02:39
bob2sethk: yeah...I gather modules can't share pages, so they always use 4KB at the end even if they don't need it all.02:39
Seveasrosen, why aren't you using a normal mailcient for gmail and a normail new-mail notifier?02:39
sethkintelikey, who cares?  the initrd is only used during startup02:39
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dooglusrosen: "no such file or directory" you mean?02:39
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Seveasinstead of jumping through hoops you don't understand02:39
_Gray_anyone know if there is a dapper channel?02:39
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Seveas_Gray_, this one02:39
dooglusrosen: could you copy/paste the exact error message?02:40
dooglusrosen: just the one line02:40
intelikeysethk i care because the initrd is too bloated to be used with loadlin  it's over 4m02:40
trigg3rSeveas: wow i definitely overlooked this area of /apps...thanks so much!02:40
acetechbimberi: i was using this howto u sent and this only shows how to setup a kernel from source but is not configurable... i want to go in and select the modules i want to install, etc.  like go into /usr/src/make config...etc02:40
rosenallright02:40
rosencd /home/user/checkgmail-1.3 && mkdir Crypt && wget -O Crypt/Simple.pm http://search.cpan.org/src/KASEI/Crypt-Simple-0.06/Simple.pm02:40
bob2loadlin even works anymore?02:40
seifeguys02:40
bimberiacetech: k02:41
seifeubuntu is not being friendly with me02:41
Ratty_hmm yeah, i think my drive is fucked02:41
Seveasacetech, then read a manual on how to do such a thing, that is not easily explained on irc02:41
bob2rosen: why aren't you using gmailfs from ubuntu?02:41
seifewhat do u guys think about novell suse linux?02:41
_Gray_Seveas: i got a ? can i install 2 instances of breezy then update one to dapper. is this possible if they are all on one hard drive. separate partitions of course02:41
bob2seife: you need to be a lot more specific02:41
dooglusbob2: gmailfs is a filesystem.  he wants a mail-checker02:41
bob2seife: #suse02:41
Seveas_Gray_, sure02:41
rosenbash: cd: /home/user/checkgmail-1.3: Ingen sdan fil eller filkatalog02:41
acetechseveas, that is what I am looking for02:41
St^Anger^19mis there a GUI way to recompile kernel?02:41
bob2dooglus: ugh, I'm blind, thanks02:41
_Gray_Seveas: can i share the swap between both as well?02:41
intelikeybob2 only with kernel/initrds less than 4m  unpacked02:41
acetechseveas, i am unable to find the howto on this02:41
bclseife, ubuntu is better, as long as you stick with 5.0402:41
Seveasacetech, wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto02:41
dooglusrosen: you should use whatever path you extracted checkgmail to there instead of /home/user/...02:41
Seveas_Gray_, only if you don't use hibernate02:41
rosenbob2, I have no idea what that is ... I just one something that can automatically check for new mail so I dont have to worry about it02:41
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acetechseveas, that does not show how to configure it02:42
bob2rosen: there appear to be several gmail checkers in ubuntu already02:42
bob2rosen: why not use one of them?02:42
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_Gray_Seveas: oh cool im on desktop so it should be sweet02:42
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trigg3r_Gray_: i did gconf-editor on /apps/nautilus/desktop as Seveas suggested and it's fine now. but do confirm if mounting to anywhere other than /media will not show a volume on the desktop?02:42
dooglusbob2: do any of them work?02:42
rosendooglus, oh I thought I did02:42
dooglusbob2: last time I tried them, they didn't02:42
bob2dooglus: I don't know, I get one mail a month to my gmail account02:42
Seveastrigg3r, confirm :)02:42
seifebcl, tell me why02:42
rosendooglus, excuse me I need to check what exactly I'm doing here ;)02:42
_Gray_trigg3r: yeah they wont mount02:42
_Gray_trigg3r: show i mean02:42
dooglusbob2: also, the ones in ubuntu scrape the HTML - it's a slow process.  checkgmail uses RSS so it's quicker02:42
rosenbob2, I only found Evolusion so far wich dont exactly look too promising02:43
bob2dooglus: ah02:43
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bclseife, 5.10 has some problems with cd burning (from desktop, using apps is ok) and dvd playback is screwed at least for me. 5.04 works great.02:43
trigg3rSeveas, _Gray_ ayt, thanks again! :)02:43
bob2bcl: have you filed a bug?02:43
St^Anger^19m!recompile02:43
ubotuNot a clue, St^Anger^19m02:43
bclbob2, yeah its known.02:43
_Gray_bcl: have you tried gnomebaker?02:43
St^Anger^19m!kernel02:43
bcl_Gray_, yeah. works great. Its the nautilus-cd-whatever app that got hosed.02:44
merlyst anger, there is an apt-get kernel sources or something like that i think02:44
dooglusrosen: did you see at the top of my post, "In the following instructions, replace "/home/user" with any path you like."02:44
acetech!kernel02:44
_Gray_bcl: oh. hope they fix it in dapper. ive always used gnomebaker so i never really tried02:44
dooglusrosen: you have to do that throughout.  replace it with the same each time :)02:44
St^Anger^19mmerly: is there a non-command line way ?02:44
St^Anger^19m:)02:44
merlyhi _gray_/ i'm back with the same trouble, but slightly different. :)02:44
bob2St^Anger^19m: if you require a gui, you should not be touching your kernel in any way02:44
bclrosen, are you looking for email apps? There's evolution, mozilla mail, thunderbird, mutt (text only). I think thunderbird and mozilla-mail support gmail checker extensions.02:45
merlyst anger i've never even done it. you could try gentoo to compile your kernel, but then you have to compile compile compile everything02:45
_Gray_merly: what exactly is it?02:45
bob2St^Anger^19m: there are several configuration methods, tho, two of which are X-based02:45
St^Anger^19mbob2: yes02:45
St^Anger^19mone of those Xbased02:45
drathis ubuntu-thingy kicks butt02:45
St^Anger^19mthere was oneon Caldera02:45
dra^^02:45
bcl_Gray_, its just really nice to be able to right-click an iso and burn it. And I hate it when things that worked in previous releases get broken :)02:45
bob2St^Anger^19m: the kernel includes two02:45
St^Anger^19mbob2 which are?02:46
merlygray - i am still having trouble with my partitions. now, at least, i only show 1 ntfs partition which takes up the whole hd or most of it...02:46
bob2St^Anger^19m: config and gconfig02:46
_Gray_bcl: bah tell me about it. thats why im installing dapper. do something about it instead of just idling around lol02:46
merlygray but it won't resize for me. it says that it will, in gparted or the install utility, but then it doesn't02:46
rosendooglus, I figured it out ... and feel quite stupid now02:46
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rosendooglus, thanks! heheheheh02:46
bob2St^Anger^19m: however, if uing menuconfig is too complicated for someone, the chances they can configure a bootable kernel is kinda low02:46
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bob2why are all websites so ugly?02:47
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rosenbcl, I think I'll give this a shot ... I'm learning from this .. well slowly02:47
_Gray_merly: ask Seveas: hed be more suited to this02:47
bcl_Gray_, yep. I just backed up to 5.04 since it works great for me. I can even play NWN without installing the ATI driver.02:47
bob2where all = 95%02:47
acetechbob2, that is what i am looking for the how to on.... qconfig02:47
St^Anger^19mbob2: sure ;)02:47
bclbob2, because noone listens to Nielsen (www.useit.com) <G>02:47
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bob2acetech: um, you're about to waste a whole day of your life02:47
merlyseveas - when i type cfdisk /dev/hda , it comes up o.k. but if i type cfdisk /dev/hda1 , i get a "fatal error". is that normal?02:47
bob2are you sure that's what you want to do?02:47
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acetechbob2, i have compiled a lot of kernels before... is there a walkthrough on this?02:48
bob2bcl: ah, I lost my link to that ages ago, thanks!02:48
Seveasmerly, yes, cfdisk acts on *drives* not *partitoins*02:48
liquidboyis anyone else having trouble with synaptic? "W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)"02:48
Seveasliquidboy, hit the reload button02:48
bob2liquidboy: update, or 'sudo apt-get update'02:48
_Gray_liquidboy: hit reload02:48
merlyseveas - i'm going to try to resize again so i can tell you the error i get02:48
trigg3rbrb02:49
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liquidboytried it, i get this error "Could not download all repository indexes"02:49
liquidboythe same thing02:49
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liquidboyhttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)02:49
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Seveasliquidboy, check your sources.list for double entries02:49
PHR023Ni'd like to give my great gratitude to the all the active helpers on this channel02:49
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St^Anger^19mis there a way to make ubuntu as fast as yoper?02:50
PHR023Ni've at last managed to recovered all 60 Gigs of my data02:50
acetechhow do i remove stuff from the startup script, like bluetooth and ntp time sync... etc?02:50
St^Anger^19mthat would make my day!02:50
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Seveasacetech, update-rc.d -f ntpdate02:50
liquidboyseveas, i forgot where the list is...02:50
Seveassame for others you want to disable02:50
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dooglusliquidboy: try "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*" then "sudo apt-get update" again02:50
Seveasliquidboy, /etc/apt/sources.list02:50
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bob2acetech: if you've compiled them in the past, what are you asking for?02:50
intelikeyacetech man update-rc.d02:50
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kismetHi all!02:51
acetechbob2, because i like to make sure i am not missing something... i know gentoo has a good walkthrough... maybe ubuntu does not have one.  I think debian has one too..   should i use debians?02:52
_Gray_acetech: heres a handy thread for you http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8949102:52
optishi lost as to why my firestarter setup isnt working02:52
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optishanyone familiar with firestarter and internet connection sharing?02:52
bob2acetech: what on earth are you talking about?02:52
_Gray_optish: did you run it as root? (sudo)02:52
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liquidboyseveas, no double ups02:52
bob2acetech: configure it, then come back and ask how to build it02:52
optish_Gray_, yeh it works and all but i am not able to do internet connection sharing02:52
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kismetAnyone can help me with printf?02:53
_Gray_optish: there was an option to enable it when you configured? that didnt work?02:53
optishnope02:53
doogluskismet: the command?  or the function?02:53
Seveaskismet, man printf02:53
kismetdooglus, the function02:53
Seveaskismet, or a programming book - this is no programming help channel02:53
optishi am looking at the prefrences right now and it still don't make sense02:53
kismetSeveas, ok :)02:53
doogluskismet: "man 3 printf" then :)   what's the problem?02:53
_Gray_optish: do you use DHCP to get an I.P. address?02:54
os2macanyone have any luck getting all the function keys to work on a dell inspiron 8600? with K/Ubuntu?02:54
optishhow can i make firestater allow dns/dhcp connections from the lan connection....because dhcp/dns connection works if i stop firestarter02:54
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merlyseveas - i in the [!!]  Partition Disks window on install. I select #1 primary 76.4 GB (lightning) (smiley face) ntfs /media/hda1, push enter02:54
optishbtw, i'm using dnsmasq02:54
Seveasmerly, use ntfsresize to resize ntfs, not cfdisk02:54
optishi added dns and dhcp for lan connection under incoming policy but still nothing02:54
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St^Anger^19mwhy not have an i686 ISO together with an i386? that way newer pc's can take advantage...not only kernel stuff but also software02:55
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merlyseveas is that on the install cd?02:55
bob2St^Anger^19m: it's pointless02:55
KnowerrorsWhat linux windowmanager/desktops do people use here (besides kde,gnome,xfce)?02:55
intelikeykismet what about printf/gprintf ?02:55
bob2Knowerrors: ion302:55
St^Anger^19mbob2?02:55
_Gray_optish: under preferences > firewall > network settings, did u enable ICS and DHCP for the lan?02:55
Seveasmerly, the installer can simply resize things for you02:55
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St^Anger^19mbob2 y?02:55
bob2St^Anger^19m: have you benchmarked it to see if it's faster or not?02:55
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bob2St^Anger^19m: other people have, and found very very few things benefit02:55
St^Anger^19mYoper is faster02:55
optish_Gray_, yep02:55
merlyseveas thats what i'm using. but after i clicked on it, it just goes back to the screen with 76 GB (it doesn't 'take')02:55
St^Anger^19mand they say its compiled for i68602:56
bob2St^Anger^19m: where can I see the study you did into how yoper uses gcc optimisations to be faster?02:56
merlyseveas i'm on the installer or whatever02:56
aghasterwas anyone able to use nvu on ubuntu x86_64?02:56
aghasteri compiled it02:56
St^Anger^19mbob2?02:56
bob2St^Anger^19m: or did you use it, feel that it was faster, then assume it was because of gcc flags?02:56
St^Anger^19mwot study02:56
liquidboyno ideas then?02:56
aghasterand it segfaults when i try to run it02:56
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aghasterline 159: 22375 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}02:56
bob2St^Anger^19m: right, so you're guessing it would help02:56
aghaster:/02:56
dooglusmerly: there's very little error checking in the installer.  if you have windows, do a full "chkdsk/f" in windows to fix whatever the problem is.02:56
_Gray_optish: do you have a router? maybe its conflicting with the firewall02:56
Seveasmerly, not cfdisk on the install cd but simply the ubuntu installer, if your ntfs partition is not hopelessly fragmented, it can be resized02:56
optish_Gray_, i even ln -s dnsmasq to dhcpd under /etc/init.d to stop firestarter from complaining about dhcp....i know the dhcp/dns server works cause my laptop can get the settings when firestarter is not running02:56
optish_Gray_, i thought so but i disbaled nat and dhcp features on the router02:57
St^Anger^19mbob2: look i'm no guru...all i'm saying is from an end-user experience..after all the flah and optimisations and stuff, Yoper was faster02:57
St^Anger^19mso i was wondering02:57
St^Anger^19mif the same could be done with Ubuntu02:57
merlyseveas - - i was using the installer. i will try chdisk and defrag02:57
SeveasSt^Anger^19m, then stick to yoper02:57
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frejhmm, why does rebuilding an ubuntu dapper package complain about "make: *** No rule to make target `install', needed by `binary/epiphany-browser-dev'.02:57
frej"02:57
_Gray_optish, im lost on this one,maybe seveas will know02:57
St^Anger^19mSeveas: i want a mix02:58
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St^Anger^19mubuntu....with the speed of Yoper02:58
St^Anger^19mis that possible?02:58
dooglusI had a problem recently with resizing an NTFS partition.  there was some kind of small problem on the partition, but the installer wouldn't tell me about it - the resize just didn't 'take'.02:58
rosendooglus, it seems to work now ... I got an error saying ' Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)' but I can't really see anything wrong02:58
Seveasfrej, depends on how you are rebuilding it02:58
_Gray_St^Anger^19m, what is Yoper?02:58
optishusing dnsmasq in place of dhcp3-server wont matter would it?02:58
dooglusntfsresize told me in the end that I should do a "chkdsk/f" to fix it, and then it was fine.02:58
St^Anger^19m_Gray_ another distro02:58
_Gray_St^Anger^19m, wouldnt lfs be faster?02:58
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bob2St^Anger^19m: you're missing the point02:58
Seveasfrej, apt-get build-dep epiphany-browser && apt-get -b source epiphany-browser HAS to work02:59
frejSeveas:  in debian i just used dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b02:59
bob2St^Anger^19m: people have looked into it and found that gcc optimisations basically do not help for most things02:59
SeveasSt^Anger^19m, no it's not possible02:59
St^Anger^19m_Gray_ if i was a guru, yes02:59
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bob2St^Anger^19m: for the things it does help, it's already used, automatically and transparently02:59
Seveasfrej, that should work on UBuntu too02:59
frejugh02:59
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frejthought so02:59
frejnasty error02:59
dooglusrosen: well, if it works...02:59
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St^Anger^19mbob2: so what makes Yoper faster?02:59
Seveasfrej, would you mind sending the complete output to the pastebin02:59
dooglusrosen: by the way, version 1.4 is available noww - I updated that forums post for the new version.02:59
frejsince, epiphany is broken on my dapper. Though a rebuild might help02:59
SeveasSt^Anger^19m, probably it lacks a lot of features that Ubuntu has03:00
bob2St^Anger^19m: i have no idea if it is faster or not03:00
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TotalNewbDoes anyone know what activscp.h does? I'm trying to install wine and it's being a pain.03:00
optishmaybe i should try something else in place of firestarter03:00
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optishany recommendations?03:00
_Gray_St^Anger^19m, it's probably just cut alot of the 'fluff' that makes ubuntu so user-friendly03:00
bob2TotalNewb: you're aware that wine is available, precompiled, in ubuntu, right?03:00
dooglusoptish: do you need a gui03:00
_Gray_bob2: its an ancient version03:00
dooglus?03:00
St^Anger^19mbob2: on the same machine, it loaded much faster, much more responsive overall...OOo loads in no time..that kind of fast..03:00
PHR023Ndooglus: may i ask what prog do you for resizing an NTFS partition?03:01
rosendooglus, it should notify me when it realizes that right ?03:01
hollywoodbSt^Anger^19m: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-89842.html03:01
intelikeyTotalNewb 'sudo apt-get install wine '03:01
TotalNewbI tried that. Synaptic said the instilation files are missing.03:01
optishdooglus, would prefer it..making it easier to add rules later but right now to get started not really03:01
dooglusPHR023N: I used 'ntfsresize' from the 'ntfsprogs' package03:01
rosendooglus, with that autoupdate thing that is in Ubuntu03:01
bob2St^Anger^19m: perception != reality03:01
bob2St^Anger^19m: if you were willing to investigate it, then other people could use that to help ubuntu feel as fast03:01
dooglusrosen: checkgmail isn't in the ubuntu repositories, so you'll not get update notifications, no03:01
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rosenallright03:02
intelikeyubotu tell TotalNewb about repos03:02
dooglusoptish: I use ipkungfu.  it doesn't have a gui though.03:02
rosendooglus, i'll try to do it manually03:02
rosendooglus, good with a challenge ;) ... for the newbs03:02
medomhow 2 do a ISO?03:02
liquidboyi don't see any reason at all that synaptic should be having problems, unless a server is down, in which case others would know about it...03:02
dooglusmedom: 'do'?03:02
medomyes03:02
dooglusliquidboy: did you try what I suggested?03:03
St^Anger^19mbob2: perception??? does a stopwatch fit in perception?03:03
Madpilothi all03:03
optishdooglus, it'll have options for internet connection sharing?03:03
Madpilotmedom: do you mean "how do I burn an ISO?"03:03
bob2St^Anger^19m: if you used a stopwatch, that would be useful research03:03
dooglusoptish: I'm not sure.03:03
St^Anger^19mi did use it03:03
dooglusoptish: all linux firewalls are pretty much just front-ends to iptables anyway.03:03
_Gray_medom: do you mean burn an iso or create an iso?03:03
optishright i know03:03
St^Anger^19mOOo Writer...loaded in 4 seconds on Yoper03:03
medomno. i have a cd, i need to do a img, i try whit dd if ... of03:03
bob2St^Anger^19m: great03:03
optishbut i'm lazy03:03
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bob2St^Anger^19m: how many runs did you do?03:03
medomi need create03:03
liquidboydooglus, after i entered the first command, it came up with another prompt (just the arrow)03:04
liquidboydidn't seem to do anything03:04
_Gray_St^Anger^19m, thats not exactly fast03:04
liquidboymaybe i hsould try it again03:04
intelikeymedom  "do"  could mean anything from copy delete download burn to disk or mount    so  do an iso ????03:04
dooglusliquidboy: that means you've got unbalanced quotes, or brackets, or some such03:04
St^Anger^19m_Gray_ then what aboout 13 seconds on Ubuntu?03:04
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_Gray_St^Anger^19m, lol your pc must be slow03:04
_Gray_St^Anger^19m, well no-ones stopping you from going back to yoper03:04
dooglusliquidboy: or that I did...03:04
St^Anger^19mof course...Pentium 4 Northwood 3.0Ghz with 1Gh corsair ram 3-3-3-603:04
liquidboydooglus unbalanced quotes?03:04
niterideranyone know anything about audacity03:04
St^Anger^19mthats slow?03:04
techrushyou guys seen this: http://www.eggheaven2000.com/detailed/2735.html03:05
frejwell, Seveas it fails right after dh_installdirs03:05
St^Anger^19m* 2-3-3-603:05
_Gray_St^Anger^19m, wow those are real loose timings there03:05
medomno. i need do a iso.03:05
liquidboyniterider, i've used it quite a bit in windows, i dont know if that's useful to you or not...03:05
freji'm not getting any errors otherwise03:05
intelikeymedom forgive my lag time.    use a cdrecording tool to rip the cd03:05
intelikey!rip03:05
niterideri installed it in 5.10 ubuntu03:05
ubotuintelikey: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?03:05
niteriderbut03:05
_Gray_St^Anger^19m, wow my celeron loads ooo2 faster on ubuntu....03:05
St^Anger^19mand i used the same machine to test03:05
liquidboydooglus, do you want to give me the commands again, incase you misspelt them?03:05
St^Anger^19mso the pc is no excuse03:05
freji should mention that i'm running dapper03:05
niterideron start up i get the following error message03:05
intelikey!rip a cd03:05
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, intelikey03:05
Seveas!ask the bot03:06
bob2St^Anger^19m: timed, repeated trials are valuable information03:06
dooglusliquidboy: I put double quotes around the 2 commands.  you shouldn't.03:06
St^Anger^19mi did repeat03:06
medomyes. i need rip a cd03:06
dooglus02:50 < dooglus> liquidboy: try "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*" then "sudo apt-get update" again03:06
_Gray_!tell _Gray_ about mp303:06
St^Anger^19mi restarted the system over and over again03:06
St^Anger^19msame results03:06
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Naxconwill someone give me the command to change the permissions on a file to allow everyone to do everything?03:06
taxmanNaxcon: man chmod03:06
St^Anger^19mwhy do u make fun of me ? :(03:06
niteriderThere was an error initializing the audio i/o layer, you will not be able to play or record audio03:06
_jasonNaxcon, chmod 777 file03:06
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intelikeyNaxcon chmod 777 file03:06
beej_y helo thar.03:07
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_Gray_St^Anger^19m, I cant believe a p4 with 1gb ram takes 12s to load ooo2..... my celeron does it in like 603:07
bob2St^Anger^19m: who is making fun of you?03:07
medomi have a ubuntu cd, i need do a image03:07
intelikeyNaxcon  man chmod03:07
TotalNewbI swear this apt-get system is the biggest pain in the neck. Why can't you just download things and have them install without spending your entire evening configuring and tweeking and arguing with out of sate archive information. Is it so freaking hard to keep an archive directory? for the love of God this is so stupidly difficult to install a simple fucntion.03:07
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liquidboydooglus, rm: cannot remove `/var/lib/apt/lists/partial': Is a directory03:07
beej_i don't have a script, lol03:07
St^Anger^19mbob2: you're being sarcastic :(03:07
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dooglusliquidboy: I meant for you to copy the * but not the "03:07
Seveas* beej_ is back (gone 05:22:33) <-- that03:07
frejTotalNewb: the reason is binary compatability, not apt-get ;)03:07
intelikeymedom you can not do an image.03:07
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liquidboyyep03:07
_Gray_TotalNewb: it just takes a little getting used to. dont sweat it03:07
liquidboydooglus, i did that03:07
Seveasdo NOT run auto-awy crap in here03:07
taxmanTotalNewb: write a better system and we'll see :)03:08
beej_oh, it was in xchat =\03:08
dooglusliquidboy: oh, that's ok then.  that error's to be expected.03:08
beej_sorry03:08
liquidboymy initial command was sudo >rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*03:08
bob2St^Anger^19m: when?03:08
TotalNewbTrust me, if I could I would.03:08
optishis there any sort of server package that can do UPnP for routing?03:08
bob2St^Anger^19m: if you really did time and repeat this, it is useful data03:08
bob2optish: "windows"03:08
St^Anger^19m_Gray_ what can i say....it's what i got...03:08
Dido-Would someone tell me how to create a shortcut for a folder on desktop?03:08
medomyes. i dont know to do a imagen03:08
liquidboydooglus, do i go ahead with the next one? or will it not work?03:08
MarkSharkIs anyone familiar with the theory of how USB scanner permissions are supposed to work on Breezy? I'm stumped.03:08
qt2err, should i have dri enabled when using nvidia-glz?03:08
dooglusliquidboy: yeah, go ahead :)03:08
SeveasDido-, ln -s /path/to/folder ~/Desktop/some_name03:08
bob2MarkShark: presumably something like plugdev should own it03:08
beej_A lot of people seem to have problems with USB scanners/printers...03:09
St^Anger^19m_Gray_ i prelinked my system and performance got better on ubuntu....Yoper comes prelinked out of the box03:09
optishbob2, i meant for ubuntu by packages...ubuntu package in repository03:09
St^Anger^19mbut it still was no match03:09
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_Gray_St^Anger^19m: what i did was install server on my celeron box then did a sudo apt-get install build-essential libstdc++5 ubuntu-desktop03:09
SeveasMarkShark, make sure you are in the scanner group03:09
bob2optish: I don't believe anything aside from bittorrent clients use it03:09
MarkSharkbob2: Thanks...looking up plugdev now...03:09
lotiacan anyone recommend a good console based frontend for cd/dvd burn utils?03:09
_Gray_St^Anger^19m: what does prelinking do? is it like prefetch on xp?03:09
taxmanis there a way to refresh a program's gui in gnome? program is running but the interface is frozen03:09
St^Anger^19m_Gray_ yes i should think so03:09
optishthats not the point03:09
bob2MarkShark: tail'ing syslog while plugging it in should be useful, too03:09
intelikeyfolks i don't know what eastern language medom speeks but would someone tell him how to make an iso of the ubuntu cd please.03:10
MarkSharkSeveas: I am in the scanner group, but "scanimage -L" works for right, but not me.03:10
bob2lotia: cdrecord03:10
_Gray_lotia: why not use gnomebaker?03:10
bob2_Gray_: no03:10
frejSeveas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/564103:10
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_Gray_lotia: although you can use cdrecord.03:10
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_Gray_bob2: lol too late03:10
bob2_Gray_: it pre-resolves undefinied runtime linking references, so the linker has les to do when the preogram starts03:10
lotia_Gray_: well i'm recording on a remote machine.03:10
merlydooglus - i didn't even know there was a chkdsk. i am running it now03:10
lotiaso command line is easier03:10
bob2that work is undone everytime libraries are updated/moved03:11
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_Gray_lotia: oh i see yeah cdrecord would do it03:11
St^Anger^19mme off 2 slp03:11
St^Anger^19mcu again tomorrow03:11
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Dido-Seveas thank you. i've done this one but do you know if it's possible with the file browser  (or simply with mouse)03:11
St^Anger^19m10q03:11
_Gray_bob2: sounds interesting i remember reading about it when installing gentoo03:11
St^Anger^19m_Gray_ some wiki tells u how to do it03:11
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St^Anger^19m!prelink03:11
arndtl#aeonteam03:11
ubotuprelink is, like, totally, a way to load apps faster. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25274&highlight=Prelink and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=45810&highlight=Prelink03:11
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St^Anger^19mit boosted my system03:12
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St^Anger^19mbye all03:12
_Gray_cya03:12
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Seveasugh... prelink...03:12
bob2the fact the bot only knows references to the forums for that worries me03:12
bob2but does not surprise me in the least ;p03:12
_Gray_Seveas: prelink bad?03:13
KnowerrorsAnyone try SyphonyOS/Mezzo desktop on ubuntu?  Im looking for a package that will work on it03:13
Seveasbob2, :)03:13
taxmanok, is there a way to refresh the gui of a program that's frozen03:13
merlydooglas - apparently chkdsk / f ran no prob - it said it woudl run next time at start up. and here it is already reboote.d i missed the whole thing!03:13
frejhmm, is epiphany broken for anyone in dapper?03:13
Seveas_Gray_, prelink is weird03:13
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bob2taxman: why do you think the program is still running?03:13
MarkSharkThanks for the usbscanner help. I just found a link which suggests logging out and logging back in is necessary. Does that make sense to anyone?03:13
taxmantop03:13
bob2that sounds exactly like the gui thread is hung03:13
bob2frej: what does the BTS say?03:13
cafuegothere then03:13
bob2MarkShark: after adding yourself to a group, yes03:13
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cafuegolessee if we still lag like hell when ftping03:13
optish_Gray_, got any other recommendations aprt from ipkungfu ...too many config files03:13
bob2cafuego: wondershaping?03:14
frejhaven't seen anything bob203:14
aleaheyKnowerrors: i tried, didnt work03:14
_Gray_optish: Sorry.03:14
MarkSharkThanks...bye03:14
cafuegobob2: tc03:14
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taxmanbob2: so you're saying I'm stuck?03:14
bob2taxman: I'm wondering what leads you to believe it hasn't hung entirely03:14
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PhoulIs there anything like VB for ubuntu?03:15
pete__i just got into an argument with some moron who claims i'm not using linux -_-03:15
SeveasPhoul, thank god, NO!03:15
PhoulYAY!03:15
Phoul:D03:15
taxmanwell it minimizes easy. otherwise wishful thinking I guess03:15
Seveasit doesn't get much worse than php on linux03:15
Phoul:D03:15
PhoulSeveas...03:15
cafuegoPhoul: VB goes with anything, not specifically Ubuntu.03:15
bob2Phoul: realbasic03:15
frej1) epiphany it won't start 2) i can't rebuild it (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5641)03:15
PhoulThe Seveas?03:16
merlydo the ubuntu boss people take suggestions on what sort of hardware support to add to the install or live cds?03:16
bob2cafuego: vb original stout is surprisingly good03:16
bob2merly: no03:16
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taxmanbob2: and I really wanted to save it's data before I had to kill it03:16
bob2merly: they support whatever has drivers03:16
Dex-Freudiihi there03:16
merlyfor some reason i've had better luck with the gentoo install cd (immediate recognition) than with ubuntu03:16
Seveas<Phoul> The Seveas? <-- I am a The now?03:16
bob2merly: if something is not supported, file a bug03:16
Dex-Freudiihas anybody installed skype on ubuntu hoary?03:16
cafuegobob2: Without ANY lag and still downloading I can say "YAY!" to that ;-)03:16
bob2haha03:16
PhoulSeveas, like the person who made the respositoy03:16
Phoul?03:17
_Gray_merly: use the Ubuntu Device Databse under Applications > System Tools03:17
merlybob2- how do i describe this problem where there is a bar across the top of my screen, and (what should be) the bottom of the display is above that? squished?03:17
frejick, not fun learning another package system from scratch03:17
SeveasPhoul, in that case yes03:17
Phoul0-003:17
bob2merly: sounds reasonable03:17
PhoulTHANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PUTTING SKYPE IN THERE!03:17
Dex-Freudiihas anybody installed skype on ubuntu hoary?03:17
merlybob2 - :v) is there no technical name for the phenomenon?03:17
frejso much knowledge you have to learn again :( (deb/rpm)03:18
SeveasPhoul, please don't scream03:18
Phoulsorry03:18
Phoul:P03:18
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PhoulJust your like...03:18
Phoul:|03:18
PhoulBIG!03:18
Phoul:P03:18
sethkmerly, your monitor can't handle your video settings03:18
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frejSeveas: did you see the paste-bin link?03:18
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Seveasfrej, yes but I chose to ignore it, it's 3:19am and I should get some sleep03:19
coyote10hello03:19
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frejhehe ok03:20
frejfair enough03:20
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frejsame here ;)03:20
PhoulGah i have a question03:20
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PhoulIs there anything like photoshop for ubuntu03:20
PhoulI cant find anything like that03:20
bob2Dex-Freudii: please just ask your question...03:20
bob2pgimp03:20
_Gray_Phoul: gimp03:20
PhoulAhh03:21
PhoulNow you see03:21
Dex-Freudiibob2, has anybody installed skype on ubuntu hoary?03:21
PhoulI cant seem to crop with that03:21
randabishmm i actually hve a problem for once03:21
bob2Dex-Freudii: yes, lots of people03:21
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coyote10i have a winmodem pctel hsp56 mr and i can don't work?03:21
Dex-Freudiiok thanx03:21
bob2Dex-Freudii: did you have a follow-up question?03:21
Dex-Freudiinot necessarily03:21
dooglusmerly: you have to use the "/f" option.  I ran it without the first time, and it found nothing.03:21
liquidboydooglus, i think it worked, btw, when i typed apt-get update, did i enable the multiverse repositores?03:21
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dooglusbut when I used "/f" it found and fixed the problem.03:21
taxmancoyote10: google for linmodem to see if yours is a supported model03:22
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dooglusliquidboy: no.  the stuff I told you to do didn't change anything other than fix the broken cache03:22
merlydooglus - i typed that. it said it had to reboot, becaues some process was using drive. then i rebooted and i didn't even see it work03:22
liquidboyoh right03:22
randabismy laptop keyboard suddenly freezes up sometimes everything else works though anyone had this problem? anyone have suggestions to fix this? I'm using kubuntu breezy03:22
liquidboywell, i think it worked, thans03:22
liquidboy*thanks03:22
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intelikeycoyote10 winmodems are by defination "windows" modems    if you get it to work you are amoung the fortunate.03:23
bulioinstalled ubuntu!!!!03:23
coyote10yes i do but not found the driver03:23
_Gray_ubuntu? whats that?03:23
buliobut how do I update?03:23
bulioI got this cd last year03:23
Dex-Freudiibulio, apt-get03:23
_Gray_edit your sources.list then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade03:24
bulioapt-get what?03:24
Dex-Freudiiwhatever you want03:24
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Dex-Freudiiwhich version do you have?03:24
bulio4.1003:24
_Gray_bulio: when i say edit your /etc/apt/sources.list, you should remove all the SINGLE #'s then do sudo apt-get update && suo apt-get upgrade03:24
Dex-Freudiibulio, waw... that's pretty old03:25
Dex-Freudiiwhy don't you download last ubuntu03:25
Dex-Freudiisorry... latest ubuntu03:25
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merlydooglas - now i can see it's running. verifying indexes. thanks03:25
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buliodo I really need to?03:25
intelikeyDex-Freudii yeah a whole year..... </sarcasm>03:25
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Madpilotbulio: there's been a huge amount of upgrades & improvements03:25
_Gray_bulio: upgrading to 5.10 should show alot of improvements across the board03:26
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bulioso I need to re-download a CD?03:26
_Gray_bulio: yes03:26
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Dex-Freudiibulio, yes03:26
buliocan I download it and burn it in ubuntu?03:26
merlyis ntfs resize on the live cd?03:26
Madpilotbulio: you can update in place, probably03:26
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_Gray_bulio: yes03:26
Dex-Freudiibulio, i guess so03:26
randabismy laptop keyboard suddenly freezes up sometimes everything else works though anyone had this problem? anyone have suggestions to fix this? I'm using kubuntu breezy03:26
FarrisGANy idea why all my gnome theme icons are screwed up in a VNC session? They used to be fine. In fact, they still look fine if I'm using vino/remote-desktop. But not when I use realvnc or tightvnc03:26
bulioor can I update to it?03:26
_Gray_bulio: you can dist-update03:26
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_Gray_bulio: but its better to just get a fresh install03:27
intelikeyif ubuntu is not good one year after you get it, why bother with it?   on the other hand if all is working well one year later then why mess it up with upgrades?03:27
steve_does anyone know the shortcut for minimizing a window in enlightement?03:27
Dex-Freudii_Gray_, dist-update downloads the whole iso image or just the packages to update??03:27
buliothe mouse seems so non-responsive03:27
nickrudbulio, you would probably have to download just as much, if not more for upgrading in place (and go thru hoary on the way)03:27
_Gray_intelikely: that sort of thinking would mean that we would go nowhere03:27
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Madpilotbulio: if you do the dist-upgrade, go from 4.10 to 5.04 to 5.10, don't skip 5.04 - there have been problems doing that...03:27
bulio533 mhz processor03:27
nickrudbetter to just get a new iso03:27
Dex-Freudiiintelikey, ......03:28
bulio300MB ram03:28
buliothat good?03:28
MarkSharkI'm still tracking down a usb scanner installation problem. /usr/share/doc/libsane/README.Debian.gz refers to a /etc/hotplug/usb/libsane.hotplug script. That doesn't exist on my system. Can anyone who has a usb scanner working on breezy check for the existence of that file?03:28
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_Gray_Dex-Freudii: it updates all packages to what are in the latest release03:28
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bulioso dl new iso with ubuntu?03:28
_Gray_Dex-Freudii: it can mess up a system though03:28
bulioburn it as .iso?03:28
_Gray_bulio: yes03:28
Dex-Freudii_Gray_, that's waht I thought03:28
intelikeybulio i have ran ubuntu on p133 with 64m ram  so you have a fine system.03:28
Madpilotintelikey: with Gnome on that system?03:29
_Gray_well i have to go now lunch time cya everyone03:29
TotalNewbGrrr. I =HATE= this damn instilation system. I can't even fix the blasted problem because it won't let me save any changes to my sources.list file. I even chowned the blasted file and it won't let me save it. Can this system be any more obtuse?!03:29
buliook03:29
buliohow can I make the mouse more responsive?03:29
intelikeyMadpilot yes.  but not ub desktop it is too bloated for the small hdd03:29
optishokay somehow firestarter and internet connection sharing works if i use static ip....still cant get dhcp to work...i did allow dhcp for incoming connections from lan under policies03:29
_Gray_you have to sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list03:29
Dex-Freudiibulio, give him some cheesse03:29
jackhongquestion: hi everyone, gksudo doesn't work for me anymore, i tried running it from command-line, it asks for the password directly from the terminal instead of poping up a window, and it echos the password back as clear text, help please!03:29
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Dex-Freudiibbl03:30
Madpilotintelikey: I bet... that's a pretty old system!03:30
intelikeyhdd 1g03:30
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optishany thing i am missing on how to get dhcp to work?03:30
bulioso dl the .iso, and ubuntu will have the tools to burn it?03:30
tonyyarussoMarkShark: I don't have that file, but there is an executable libusbscanner in that folder.03:31
tonyyarussoMarkShark: Mine's a USB scanner/copier/printer combo.03:31
bimberibulio: yes, right click on the ISO file in nautilus and select Write to CD/DVD03:31
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buliok03:31
merlyis there a text-only install method?03:31
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MarkSharktonyyarusso: Thanks...03:31
AbdulSpiegelbeb beb03:31
bob2jackhong: what did you change since it last worked?03:31
bob2merly: you can disable the fb, yes03:32
j1hey all i'd like a hand creating a linux partition on a second hard drive...  appreciated : )03:32
intelikeyMadpilot find out when 1g hdd's came out and that will be about the age.03:32
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jackhongbob2, i switched to nss-ldap03:32
AbdulSpiegelUmm , can anyone assist me in getting my sound to work??/03:32
bob2j1: is that really what you want to do, or do you want to make a filesystem?03:32
DeezNutsNewbie Needs Help...accessing NTFS drives on machine as current user03:32
jackhongbob2, but everything else works fine03:32
bob2AbdulSpiegel: not unless you provide a lot more detail03:32
bob2jackhong: uh03:32
bob2jackhong: does it work for local accounts?03:32
bob2DeezNuts: /msg ubotu ntfs03:32
jackhongbob2, haven't tried that03:32
j1hmm, bob2,  i think i need a partition to put a filesystem on, so i'm thinking I need BOTH// : )03:33
merlybob2 - you fixed it again. :v) much better.03:33
merlybob2 - so the squishy issue is a fb prob03:33
j1or am I waay of base here.  maybe partitions are a windows thing, i thought they were part of PC disk structure03:33
AbdulSpiegelbob2, well bob, its quite simple, it doesnt work. when i was trying knoppix it work fine, i could hear the sounda and play a CD, then i install ubuntu and bam nothing...03:34
jackhongbob2, sudo works fine, but gksu/gksudo do not03:34
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TotalNewbThis thing is %&^$&*%^$^)(&*^#@%^ RETARDED!03:35
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Nigelenkimodel name      : Mobile Genuine Intel(R) processor       1600MHz03:35
j1whats wrong Tota03:35
j1l03:35
NigelenkiWhat daemon scales the CPU speed on Mobile Pentium M's03:35
odie5533Can I run a php script from an sh script03:35
cafuegoodie5533: 'powernowd'03:35
bob832anyone here use the app whereami ?03:35
j1bob2: you there?03:35
cafuegoodie5533: Yes.03:35
cafuegoNigelenki powernowd03:35
intelikeyj1  'sudo cfdisk /dev/hdc '   assumes ide cable 2 master    and make what ever partitions you like.    then 'sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdc1 '   assumes the first partition you make and ext3 file system.03:35
TotalNewbI'm just going back to windows. At least as crappy and virus riden as it is you can install a simple freaking program without wasting your entire day off.03:35
GURTi can't get the Audio Disc icon off of my desktop03:35
merlyw00t! dooglus, you're a genius !!03:36
odie5533cafueg: how exactly?03:36
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jackhongbob2, should i try a local account?03:36
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DeezNutsNewbie Needs Help...accessing NTFS drives on machine as current user03:36
sethkDeezNuts, do man mount, check the uid= and gid= in NTFS mount options03:36
bimberiubotu tell DeezNuts about mountwindows03:36
j1thanks inteli...03:36
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AbdulSpiegelanyone?03:37
buliodownloading now03:37
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odie5533how do I run a php script from an sh script?03:37
techrushubotu tell techrush about mountwindows03:37
intelikeyGURT just another reason i dislike 'auto-everything'03:37
j1it is hdb, and there is already a fat32 partition on it03:37
DeezNutssethk: where can I find that?03:37
j1so i'm thinking it will be hdb203:37
sethkDeezNuts, find what?  the man page?  Open a terminal and type    man mount03:37
bob2j1: ?03:37
pldnwould anyone have any experience with 32bit j2sdk's on ubuntu amd64?03:37
bob2jackhong: er, of course03:37
intelikeyodie5533 you call it just like you would from the command line03:37
buliowowo03:37
j1yes bob203:38
bob2jackhong: how else will you figure out if it's ldap being fucked or not?03:38
buliolinux is so much better than windows ME!!!!!03:38
odie5533intelikey: how do I call it from teh command line though03:38
GURThow can i turn it off?03:38
bob2AbdulSpiegel: that's not even close to specific enough03:38
GURTnvm, ill poke around03:38
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bob2AbdulSpiegel: put your /var/log/dmesg, output of "lspci" and "lsmod" up somewhere03:38
jackhongbob2, ldap should be working...03:38
bob2AbdulSpiegel: e.g. pastebin.ca03:38
intelikeyfile.php  most likely  :)03:38
bob2jackhong: and so should gksudo03:38
techrushstupid bot03:38
merlyat last, it's installing!03:38
MadpilotGURT: there's an option to turn that desktop display off, I'm digging for it for you...03:38
pldnit looks like its needing libXp.so.6, but after combing through apt, it only seems there is a 64bit version available... any ideas?03:38
linlinIs the KDE that is in the Ubuntu repo's the new KDE 3.5?03:38
GURTi got it03:38
GURTthanks03:38
jackhongbob2, i am able to anything else but not gksudo03:39
bob2linlin: your question didn't specify which version of ubuntu03:39
jackhongbob2, to do *03:39
AbdulSpiegelok hang on03:39
MadpilotGURT: remind me where it is, then? :)03:39
bob2jackhong: yes, now try it03:39
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linlinOh, my bad 5.1003:39
odie5533how do I call a php script from the command line03:39
bob2pldn: install ia32-libs?03:39
buliohow do I minimize xchat to tray?03:39
GURTi turen doff mount removeable storage03:39
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Siph0nis it safe to get Wine from Synaptic? i thought i saw that i should follow other instructions?03:39
bob2odie5533: php4 whatever.php03:39
bob2odie5533: tho, idally, you don't do that03:39
pldnbob2: yessir... doesnt look like it contains libXp03:39
linlinits regular ubuntu 5.10 server install03:39
tonyyarussoAnybody know of a good HTML tag-checker app?03:39
bob2tonyyarusso: tidy03:39
intelikeyodie5533   file.php  most likely  :)03:40
bob2wait, no03:40
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bimberilinlin: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php03:40
bob2validate from w3c-tools or whatever it is03:40
MadpilotTongMaster: tidy - which is built into Bluefish03:40
pldnbob2: Im running firefox 1.5 32bit just fine, so mixed mode is working.. somewhat ;)03:40
tonyyarussobob2: Is that in repos?03:40
bob2tonyyarusso: yes03:40
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tonyyarussobob2: Thanks.03:40
bob2pldn: chroot time, I suppose03:40
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bob832if i put in the command mv myfile.txt put don't put in a destination, where would the file go?03:40
pldnbob2: thats the rub... I really dont want to chroot this03:40
bob2bob832: nowhere03:40
bob2bob832: that's not a valid command, and mv will tell you so03:41
linlinyes, but im not using kubuntu, i am asking if i just do something like "sudo apt-get install kde" will i get 3.5?03:41
intelikeyodie5533   /path/to/script/scriptname.php     ?03:41
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pldnbob2: I will if i have to, but it seems a pretty big waste to double everything up03:41
bob832hmm, ok thanks03:41
intelikeyand it may not end in .<anything>03:41
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bob2pldn: yes, using 32-bit applications on an amd64 system is suboptimal03:42
pldnbob2: is there a good place i can rtfm on it?03:42
pldnbob2: most of the ones ive seen were just standard chroots, nothing about getting i386 debs on there03:42
bob2uh?03:42
bimberilinlin: no, 3.4.303:42
bob2the point of making the chroot is to set it up using i386 packages03:42
DeezNutssethk: I have my NTFS drives "mounted" but it won't let me access them...I don't have correct permissions, however, I'm the only user on the machine03:43
linlindamn03:43
pldnbob2: I understand that, but what ive seen on the net, the docs were just setting up normal jails, not those with 32bit support03:43
sethkDeezNuts, as I told you already, use the uid= and gid= for NTFS options with mount03:43
sethkDeezNuts, use your uid and gid, then you own all the mounted files03:44
DeezNutssethk: I'm sorry...I'm really new to this, I'll see if I can find that03:44
TebariGuys I need some help. I installed breezy, updated it and rebooted. But then it freezes when it tries to load X11.03:44
sethkDeezNuts, how are you mounting it?03:44
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pldnbob2: either way, once the chroot gets setup, is it safe to remove ia32-libs* and linux32?03:44
jackhongbob2, i tried gksudo with a local account, still doesn't work03:44
bimberilinlin: however, if you add the repository mentioned on that page you should get 3.503:44
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DeezNutssethk: it's automatically mounted on my desktop03:44
TheDiff|detachedhey03:44
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linlinand it wont break anything?03:44
TheDiff|detachedis there a way to recover an installation with the normal install CD?03:45
toothpickTheoretically if I have a debian install and change all my sources to ubuntu...then and apt-get update upgrade dist-upgrade would be safe?03:45
intelikeyjackhong kde or gnome ?03:45
sethkDeezNuts, ok, you have to remount it with different options.  If you are really new, probably the easy thing to do is edit /etc/fstab03:45
jackhongInsecta, gnome03:45
jackhongintelikey, gnome03:45
pete__toothpick sounds like a bad idea....03:45
bob2pldn: except that things like openoffice won't work anymore, yes03:45
bob2jackhong: does sudo?03:45
merlyhrmm. i bet there is some clickey clickey where i don't install support for all 6000 languages, isn't there?03:45
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bob2TheDiff|detached: sure03:45
sethkDeezNuts, add the options for uid= and gid=, then umount it and mount it again (Or just reboot)03:45
pldnroger that... thanks!03:45
jackhongbob2, sudo works03:45
j1root@ubuntu:~# mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdb203:45
j1mke2fs 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)03:45
j1Could not stat /dev/hdb2 --- No such file or directory03:45
j1The device apparently does not exist; did you specify it correctly?03:45
bob2toothpick: if you have to ask, no03:45
TheDiff|detachedhmm03:45
toothpickpete__: ok03:45
buliohow do I change my root password?03:46
bimberilinlin: not done it personally, so no idea, but i would be pretty confident03:46
bob2j1: which is pretty clear.../dev/hdb2 does not exist03:46
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calamarihi03:46
bob2bulio: you don't. wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo03:46
TheDiff|detachedthe issue is there was a bad shutdown, and now Ubuntu is complaining about the minix module missing and wont mount my harddrives03:46
j1yep, but i just created in in cfdisk03:46
jackhongbob2, same problem as my ldap account03:46
j1then went back into cfdisk and it shows it03:46
TheDiff|detachedi'm trying to figure out what my options are at this point03:46
bob2j1: it may or may not be recreated before you reboot03:46
sethkTheDiff|detached, minix?  You are using minix?03:46
bimberilinlin: by the way, installing the kubuntu-desktop package will be equivalent to a kubuntu install (fyi)03:46
TheDiff|detachedsethk: haha no03:46
j1thanks, i'll reboot and check again.03:46
TheDiff|detachedbut it complains about a minix module03:46
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TheDiff|detachedi dont know why03:47
bob2jackhong: do you know how to use strace?03:47
intelikeyj1  'fdisk -l /dev/hdb  '    it shows there ?03:47
linlindo i still need to add that repo bimberi ?03:47
sethkTheDiff|detached, that sounds like your partition table is borked03:47
bob2actually, nevermind03:47
jackhongbob2, not really..03:47
TheDiff|detachedsethk: how can i recover it?03:47
jackhongbob2, strace <command> ?03:47
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tjswill breezy-updates get firefox 1.5 ?03:48
bimberilinlin: only if you want 3.5, otherwise you'll get 3.403:48
bimberitjs: no03:48
bimberiubotu tell tjs about firefox1503:48
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tjsthanks03:48
bimberitjs: np :)03:48
tjs:)03:48
techrushsomeone tell that bot to tell me about mounting windows partition03:48
techrushcuz it wouldnt listen to me03:49
calamariI'm considering buying a dvd+-rw drive.. is there software available for linux to rip, convert, etc.. dvd movies? (for legal purposes only, of course)03:49
techrushor im too dumb to use it03:49
bimberiubotu tell techrush about mountwindows03:49
intelikey!ntfs03:49
ubotusomebody said ntfs was the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions03:49
techrushthx03:49
TheDiff|detachedcalamari: there are definitely programs for burning03:49
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TheDiff|detachedi'm not sure about ripping03:49
tjsmount -t ntfs /dev/hda /mnt/windows03:49
tjsor something like that03:49
ElitePetehm03:49
sethkTheDiff|detached, if you know what it should be, you can just use fdisk and set the numbers correctly03:50
TheDiff|detachedsethk: i'm not sure if its the partition table03:50
sulliCould anyone help me get my wireless card working in Breezy,  I have been trying to use ndiswrapper, I have installed the windows driver and it recognizes that I have the hardware but the card won't appear in the network configurations03:50
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TheDiff|detachedi think it other files in the filesystem03:50
TheDiff|detachedlike system files03:50
techrushhm03:50
sethkTheDiff|detached, if it thinks you have a minix partition, then the partition table is borked03:50
techrushi have no problem with the windows partion auto mounting its just that i cannot access it03:51
TheDiff|detachedbecause in ASH i can mount the drives if i use the explicit mount command03:51
techrushunless i sudo nautilus03:51
calamariTheDiff|detached: am I going to run into driver problems, or are these things pretty standardized?  (it's a sony)03:51
techrushwhich is annoying03:51
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TheDiff|detachedcalamari: hmm i'm not too sure03:51
ElitePetehm03:51
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ElitePetehtmmm.......03:52
intelikeyElitePete you said that already03:52
jackhongbob2, i don't think gksudo is crashing, because it does ask me for the password, but instead of poping up a window it prompts for the password directly from commandline03:52
ElitePeteintelikey i know :-003:52
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cyphasewhat's wrong with the C++ statement..03:52
cyphasecommand_list=["ps","fl","aa"] ;03:52
cyphaseif command list was declared..03:52
cyphasestring command_list[3] ;03:52
cyphasei haven't coded C++ for a while..03:53
calamariTheDiff|detached: np, thanks :)03:53
sethkcyphase, try {} instead of [] 03:53
TheDiff|detachedif i do a reinstallation of ubuntu with the regular install disk, will it overwrite my homedirectory and such03:53
bob2jackhong: sounds like a bug in gksudo03:53
cyphasellol03:54
cyphaseoh yea03:54
bob2TheDiff|detached: depends how you set your system up03:54
jackhongbob2, i dont' knwo, it worked before03:54
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TheDiff|detachedbob2: explain03:54
bob2TheDiff|detached: no03:54
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fushilol03:54
intelikeyTheDiff|detached yep most likely03:54
TheDiff|detachedhaha03:54
bob2jackhong: where "before" = "before you switched your entire auth system."03:54
TheDiff|detachedokay03:54
bob2TheDiff|detached: if /home is on /, you're boned03:54
jackhongbob2, yes03:54
bob2if not, you're fine03:54
TheDiff|detachedokay then i'm boned03:54
merlybob2 - are you and your fellow helpists compensated for this time/knowledge ? or are you just here out of kindness? :v)03:54
bob2merly: no03:54
jackhongbob2, but i really need ldap auth03:54
TheDiff|detachedhmm i need to mount this shit and copy it to a usb drive03:54
bob2I got in trouble for spending time helping here instead of working, tho03:55
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NEURAL_NEThello03:55
jackhongbob2, i dont' want to switch back03:55
bob2jackhong: great, you'll need to file a bug03:55
NEURAL_NETroot@host:/home/user/inird-root/dev# /dev/MAKEDEV null03:55
NEURAL_NET/dev/MAKEDEV: don't know how to make device "null"03:55
NEURAL_NET:(03:55
intelikeyTheDiff|detached you could tar.gz /home  and save the file someplace safe untill after the reload03:55
merlybob2 are you in the ubuntu hierarchy in some way?03:55
bob2NEURAL_NET: don't use MAKEDEV03:55
bob2merly: not really03:55
TheDiff|detachedintelikey: yeah03:55
TheDiff|detachedi think i just need to replace a few system files03:55
TheDiff|detachedto recover it03:56
TheDiff|detachedmaybe...03:56
merlybob2 - well, I appreciate what you are doing. ;v) I think I love ubuntu again, I'll know for certain when if it finishes installing03:56
sethkTheDiff|detached, that doesn't fit in at all with what you are describing03:56
bob2NEURAL_NET: what are you hoping to do with your initrd?03:56
jackhonghas anyone here tried gksudo with pam set to ldap authentication?03:56
fulldduring the install, I messed up the partition table on my first SW raid device. how can I fix that so my hd[ceg]  can live in harmony again?03:56
bob2merly: thanks!03:56
intelikeyNEURAL_NET  ls /dev/null03:56
NEURAL_NETi'm creating a initrd03:56
bob2NEURAL_NET: why?03:56
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NEURAL_NETroot@host:/home/user/inird-root/dev# ls /dev/null03:57
NEURAL_NET/dev/null03:57
bob2NEURAL_NET: it'd probably save us all a lot of time if you stopped what you're doing and told us what on earth your plan is03:57
NEURAL_NETfor use kernel totally modular03:57
bob2you also mispelt initrd03:57
intelikeyNEURAL_NET  use mc and copy your /dev/null03:57
vickyNEURAL_NET use mc and copy it to work you are rebuilding it03:57
bob2which is encouragaing03:57
bob2NEURAL_NET: why?03:57
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vickywhich is a bag of spanners03:57
NEURAL_NETfor test module03:57
bob2NEURAL_NET: no, stop03:58
bob2NEURAL_NET: explain what your actual goal is03:58
NEURAL_NETand not recompile the kernel every time that i must try something03:58
bob2not each little broken plan03:58
vickyand not much happened at that. Is it safe to get the Audio Disc icon off of my data03:58
bob2NEURAL_NET: this has nothing to do with an initrd at all03:58
bob2NEURAL_NET: use an ubuntu kernel03:58
vickythis has nothing to shade right now03:58
vickyuse an ubuntu 5.10, but I wouldn't knoe03:58
jackhonghas anyone here tried gksudo with pam set to ldap authentication??03:58
bob2jackhong: what did google tell you?03:58
jackhongbob2, i googled a lot, but couldn't find anything03:59
TheDiff|detachedokay well it appears to be booting in recovery mode03:59
TheDiff|detachedso far03:59
intelikeywhy don't you guys let people compile what they want to.  it's their software, they are as much the owners of it as you are.03:59
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bob2intelikey: oh, stop being an idiot03:59
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bob2people can compile whatever they want, I'm not holding a gun to anyone's head04:00
intelikeygnu-gpl remember.04:00
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bob2I'm trying to establish if there's an actual reason for NEURAL_NET to bother04:00
dashinhowhere I configure/set my local area ip address?04:00
TheDiff|detachedso if it is booting in recovery mode04:00
bob2so I know if I should waste time helping him or her04:00
TheDiff|detachedthat means its not my partition table, right>04:00
TheDiff|detached?04:00
bob2if it's "OMG I NEED A CUSTOM KERNEL IT IS FASTER", I'll go nail things into my toes instead of bothering to help04:00
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intelikeyso fine.  but don't tell them "don't do that"  just go nail things in your toes.04:01
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TheDiff|detachedhaha04:01
TheDiff|detachedwell apparently that fixed it04:01
TheDiff|detachedso far..04:01
TheDiff|detachedjust booting into recovery mode04:02
ryanhHello all... Is it possible to run dual-boot with the linux partition on a slave ATA drive? The master drive is a SATA RAID-0 array04:02
TheDiff|detachedand then booting normally04:02
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bob2ryanh: is it really a RAID-0 array?04:02
bob2ryanh: but yes04:02
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NEURAL_NEThttp://www.rafb.net/paste/results/17vw1680.html04:02
ryanhbob2: Well, yes, it's two hard drives in an array for speed. Thanks!04:02
bob2ryanh: ah, I've just never seen a real SATA RAID controller, just via/silicon image/intel fake raid04:03
bob2NEURAL_NET: why are you trying to compile a custom kernel with an initrd?04:03
ElitePetebecause he is an idiot.04:03
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bob2I'm not being judgemental, I'm trying to establish if there is a good reason for it04:04
NEURAL_NETElitePete,04:04
NEURAL_NEThow old are you????04:04
bob2NEURAL_NET: why are you trying to compile a custom kernel with an initrd?04:05
ElitePeteis it any of your business?04:05
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NEURAL_NETbecouse i want kernel modular04:05
NEURAL_NETand i want to test the modules04:05
Sneaky_Bastardbob 2.0 ?04:05
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bob2NEURAL_NET: you're not really answering the question04:05
intelikeyElitePete yeah i'd say it is, you made it his business when you called him an idiot.04:05
Sneaky_Bastardfrom Reboot ?04:05
bob2NEURAL_NET: you do not need a custom kernel to test modules04:05
Sneaky_Bastard:D04:05
NEURAL_NETi do not like compile the kernel every time that i must try something about one support04:05
bob2NEURAL_NET: if you are using a custom kernel, you don't need an initrd04:06
ElitePeteintelikey, i called him an idiot, so it's his business what age i am?04:06
bob2NEURAL_NET: so you're potentially doubly wasting your time04:06
ElitePetewhat kind of logic is that?04:06
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Sneaky_BastardI'm 500 years old04:06
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Sneaky_Bastard(dog years)04:06
Sneaky_Bastard:p04:06
intelikeyElitePete mature logic.04:06
Agrajagwhat's your secret?04:06
Sneaky_Bastardactually, I'm 4604:06
MadpilotElitePete: when people act immature, it's natural to wonder how old they are...04:06
SCMarkbob2: you can use both04:06
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NEURAL_NETnow i want to make that04:06
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Sneaky_Bastardand I predate personal computers04:06
SCMarkbob2: It won't hurt04:06
ElitePeteill try to remember that... thanks04:06
NEURAL_NETafter i can do another thing04:06
bob2SCMark: yes, but it's tedious and more complicated than either other option04:06
bob2NEURAL_NET: ok, you appear to be too confused to help, so good luck04:07
NEURAL_NETe i can learn another thing04:07
NEURAL_NET:)04:07
merlyany reason why 64 bit install should be significantly slower than 32 bit?04:07
SCMarkbob2: yeah, but if you've got the time then it's a learning experience04:07
bob2merly: e.g.?04:07
bob2NEURAL_NET: then, first of all, make a kernel that boots04:08
PHR023Nhell it's raining outside though... wonder why its so hot in here :)04:08
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bob2NEURAL_NET: without an initrd04:08
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ajmitchSCMark: plenty of things are learning experiences, not all of them good :)04:08
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leandroalguien habla espaol, necesito ayuda04:08
Vespolio.-04:08
Agrajag!es04:08
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:08
_jason!es04:08
ElitePetesi hablas espanol04:08
leandrook04:08
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Vespoliadios :P04:09
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ElitePeteadios mi amigo04:09
Vespoli;)04:09
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ElitePetehasta luego.04:09
Vespoliok, I removed xmms and installed xmms-flac, but now it says I have broken packages :o04:09
_jasonI think ubotu should automatically respond to spanish words, that would be nice... he's blootbot right?04:09
Vespolihow can I "resolve" my dependencies without doing anything ?04:09
Vespoliapt-get -f install is telling me to install xmms04:10
Vespoliwhich I compiled myself04:10
owner989in synaptic you can tell it to fix broken packages04:10
NEURAL_NETbob2,  is not first time that i make a kernel04:10
Vespoliyeah, by installing the binary crap XMMS over my custom build :P )04:10
ElitePeteanyone here use kubuntu, i was curious what the difference is between kubuntu and ubuntu04:10
AgrajagVespoli: uh, no04:10
Vespolihmm04:10
NEURAL_NETthe peoplee thing to much04:10
Vespoliok thanks04:10
NEURAL_NETand no good04:10
owner989xubuntu is great04:11
Agrajagif you built it and installed it normally it'd go into /usr/local/ and goddamn it he left04:11
SCMarkajmitch: yeah.  But that person will learn better from trying it than from me telling them04:11
jackhongbob2, gksudo is working now!!!04:13
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jackhongbob2, the problem is actually pam_mount04:13
NanoBCN28ElitePete, the difference is that ubuntu runs Gnome and kubuntu runs KDE04:13
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djk_anyone familiar with ruby?04:13
intelikeysome times the adventure is more about failed attempts to do the impossable than it is about achieving the easy04:13
ElitePetei see, i have no expreince with kde, is gnome better?04:14
_jasondjk_, probably in #ruby04:14
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intelikey!start a desktop war04:14
ubotue17 is much better than kde!04:14
_jasondjk_, never mind i lied, #ruby-lang04:14
cyphasewhat's the C++ function to find the length of an array again?04:14
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bimberiElitePete: it's a matter of opinion, try them both ane make your own decision :)04:14
bimberi*and04:14
j1<--needs help with fstab to mount a new partition04:15
ElitePetebimberi i'm loving gnome so far ;-)04:15
djk__jason: well, i was in #ruby-lang where apparently my algo is broken, neglecting that the provided solution _is_ my algo..04:15
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NanoBCN28ElitePete, this is the endless discussion, let's say some people prefer gnome and some others kde04:15
NanoBCN28it's a batter of taste ElitePete04:15
j1thanks for the help before intelli and bob204:15
owner989you can actually use both04:15
ElitePetety nano,04:15
_jasondjk_, oh :o04:15
owner989install ubuntu and then install the kubuntu desktop04:15
intelikeyf1 give us the specs and what you want to accomplish04:15
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NanoBCN28ElitePete, Xubuntu, instead, uses XFCE4, which is the best option for old hardware04:15
ElitePetei'04:15
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JonasNormandoes anyone know about bash scripting? if yes can you tell me how to allow backspace when a user types a response04:15
intelikeyj1 ^04:15
owner989yeah xubuntu is great04:15
ElitePetei see nano, i have all new hardware :-)04:16
djk__jason: yea, that was a nice introduction to that channel allright..04:16
j1hello intelli04:16
intelikeyj1 give us the specs and what you want to accomplish04:16
jackhongNanoBCN28, true, i'm using xfce4+rox on my old debian box, it's fast and stable04:16
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bastihow can I solve so that my password will entered in the crontab that makes an apt update?04:17
j1i have created a partition, /hdb2 and made an ext3 filesystem on it.. now i want to mount it as /media/honk04:17
NanoBCN28jackhong, indeed, I'd install it in the old servers I have at home if I wanted an X04:17
j1 i made an entry in fstab, and ran mount -a but i cant write to /media/honk04:17
bob2j1: so change the permissions04:17
owner989xubuntu is actually very functional04:18
intelikeyj1 maybe '/dev/hdb1 /media/honk ext3 defaults,auto 0 0 '   add that to your fstab04:18
owner989you can do everything you can in gnome04:18
bob2j1: sudo chmod 777 /media/honk04:18
j1i did chmod 777 /media/honk04:18
intelikeyj1 errrr sorry hdb2 ^04:18
bob2j1: and?04:18
j1but my fstab line looks diffe3r ent than yours, let me change it and try again04:18
bastiif I create a crontab with sudo, will it execute with sudo rights ?04:19
bimberibasti: put it in root's crontab (sudo crontab -e)04:19
bimberibasti: yes04:19
bastiok thx bimberi :)04:19
bimberibasti: np :)04:19
NanoBCN28well, now that bandwidth is wider it's worth it to have old pcs at home to use as dedicated servers for certain use04:19
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NanoBCN28for instance, I have 2 old pcs running as server, one running mldonkey and one with apache+mysql04:20
cyphaseWhat's the C++ function to find the length of an array again?04:20
NanoBCN28now it's time to have an icecast daemon and gnump304:20
cyphaseI haven't coded C++ for ages..04:20
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merlyif only wireless would work. why, why does it have to be so hard? :v)04:21
Sneaky_Bastardwhat the hell do you mean "find the length of an array" ?04:21
Sneaky_Bastardan array of *WHAT* ?04:21
rosenhow do I make a program start when I boot my computer ? (checkgmail in this case)04:21
cyphaseSneaky_Bastard, strings04:22
Sneaky_Bastardand in C++, you would already know the length of an array, if you created it.04:22
Sneaky_Bastardstrings are not "arrays" in C++04:22
intelikeyrosen man initscripts04:22
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cyphasei know04:22
cyphasei mean..04:22
cyphasean array of strings04:22
Sneaky_Bastardstring::strlen(), I think04:22
Sneaky_Bastardan array of strings04:22
cyphaselol04:22
cyphasenvm04:22
bob2cyphase: then say, "how do I find the length of a string instance?"04:22
rosenintelikey, I'm sorry but I just installed linux today but .. where do I find those ?04:22
cyphasebob2, no, that's not what i mean04:22
Sneaky_Bastardwell, say what you mean04:23
Sneaky_Bastardpastebin example please04:23
cyphaseSneaky_Bastard, i did04:23
sethkcyphase, if you mean the number of strings in your list of strings04:23
cyphasebut nvm04:23
Sneaky_Bastard(of how you declared the object)04:23
cyphasesethk, yes04:23
cyphasebut nvm now04:23
cyphaselol04:23
sethkcyphase, then,  sizeof (thing) / sizeof (char*)04:23
cyphaselike i said..04:23
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sethkcyphase, it's a list of pointers04:23
bob2ugh04:23
Sneaky_Bastardsethk: not for C++ strings04:23
cyphasei haven't coded C++ for ages04:23
bob2holy god04:23
Sneaky_Bastardhe specified C++ strings04:23
sethkSneaky_Bastard, we aren't talking about c++ strings04:23
bob2do not arrays as lists in C++04:23
cyphaseforget it!04:23
cyphaselol04:23
bob2or char* as strings04:23
cyphasei got it04:23
NEURAL_NETsizeof(char*) == 404:23
NEURAL_NET:P04:23
cyphaseit's fixed04:23
cyphaseover04:23
cyphasego back to sleep04:23
Sneaky_Bastardwhich are not arrays of char pointers04:23
sethkSneaky_Bastard, no, he showed the initialization before, it was not c++ strings.04:24
Sneaky_Bastardtrust me04:24
j1bob2/intellikink that worked, thanks04:24
sethkSneaky_Bastard, there is no reason you can't use c strings in c++ programs.04:24
Sneaky_Bastardwell, then it's C API04:24
jackal24can someone please help me with this "FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found" when i try to modprobe04:24
Sneaky_Bastardso WTF is he asking about C++ API ?04:24
Sneaky_Bastardjeezus04:24
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sethkSneaky_Bastard, not an API at all.  It's a feature of the language.  :)04:24
Sneaky_Bastarddon't people speak English ?04:24
sethkSneaky_Bastard, I spek it real goodly04:24
steve_laptopno04:24
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Sneaky_Bastardhe said "string" and "C++"04:24
cyphaseomg04:24
intelikeyrosen /etc/init.d/     write a script to start your app and stick it in there chmoded to 700   and you really should read the man page    man initscripts   if it exists,  also   man update-rc.d    i think04:24
Sneaky_Bastardthose are not C arrays of Char04:24
leandrowho can speak spanish and help me?04:24
Sneaky_Bastardthey ain't04:24
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Sneaky_Bastard>:(04:25
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sethkSneaky_Bastard, actually, you aren't correct there.  The strings you are talking about are standard library functions, and not part of the language at all.04:25
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steven__is anyone here using wlassistant... for there wifi?04:25
rosenintelikey, ok that's way out of my league ... I'll wait untill I got a better grasp of what I'm doing04:25
Sneaky_BastardC++ strings aren't part of the language04:25
jackal24steven__, i might if i got my wireless to work :)04:25
Sneaky_Bastardand I'm not the one who said they are04:25
KuyaedzI'm running Breezy 5.10 as a webhost but my cron jobs aren't running (only seem to work manually).  Any tips?04:25
Sneaky_Bastard>:(04:25
sethkSneaky_Bastard, ok, lot's of stuff flying by here.  :)04:26
intelikeyrosen    in a terminal    type        man man04:26
jackal24can someone please tell me why modprobe can't find ndiswrapper?04:26
steven__jackal24, have you useded it yet?04:26
intelikeyrosen the manual pages are your friend.04:26
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jackal24steven__, useded?04:26
sethkSneaky_Bastard, but as c++ is (well, technically it isn't, but for all intents and purposes it is) a superset of C, any c language feature is also a c++ language feature.04:26
bob2jackal24: can you find ndiswrapper?04:26
jackal24bob2, yes04:26
Sneaky_Bastardpeople who mix C and C++ in the same module need to be stabbed, shot, hung, disembowled, beheaded and THEN killed.04:26
Sneaky_Bastard>:(04:26
bob2Kuyaedz: read your logs and see what happened04:26
Sneaky_Bastardsorry04:26
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rosenoooh nice .. thanks alot intelikey04:26
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steven__Whats this and how do I fix it? --- checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!04:27
fulldduring install, ubuntu detected an MD array04:27
jackal24bob2, but i don't know what to do next04:27
bob2jackal24: and it's in the right place in /lib/?04:27
bob2steven__: what are you trying to compile?04:27
Kuyaedzbob2: the syslog & messages log (/var/log/) both seem to be fine.. it just seems like they AREN'T being run at all.04:27
fulldi didn't want it to manage my array04:27
steven__wlassistant04:27
steven__bob2,04:27
drapelykanyone, how do I move a directory and all of it's contents?04:27
intelikeybob2 dose default ub have a gui app for adding startup commands ?    if so point rosen tword it please.04:27
fulldso I deleted the array from the list04:27
DeezNutssethk: Thanks for your help with fstab...I was able to get it working for me!04:27
bob2steven__: install xlibs-dev and build-essential04:27
bob2intelikey: good luck04:27
fulldand it actually cleared something on my first md drive04:28
steven__ok04:28
bob2drapelyk: mv...04:28
steven__thanks04:28
fulldhow do I find out exactly what happened so I can fix it?04:28
sethkDeezNuts, great04:28
jackal24bob2, the ko file is in /usr/src/ndiswrapper-1.1/driver/04:28
drapelykbob2, that will move the files I want a copy04:28
bob2Kuyaedz: is cron running at all?04:28
intelikeybob2 i take it that is a NO   :)04:28
bob2jackal24: ...04:28
sethkSneaky_Bastard, not that I would ever quibble, or anything.  :)04:28
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bob2jackal24: the ndiswrapper module is in ubuntu already, use that04:28
bob2drapelyk: 14:27:36       drapelyk |  anyone, how do I move a directory and all of it's contents?04:28
bob2drapelyk: is that not actually what you meant hen?04:28
drapelykbob2, lol, sorry04:28
drapelykbob2 copy04:29
bob2drapelyk: cp -a, probably04:29
drapelykk04:29
Kuyaedzbob2: didn't think of that.. just did an /etc/init.d/cron restart.  we'll see if its run in the morning, thanks04:29
jackal24bob2, i don't know how. i was having problems with getting my wifi to work, so i read in a forum to delete ndiswrapper and reinstall it04:29
bob2jackal24: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper04:29
bob2jackal24: ignore anything you read on the forums unless someone with clue outside the forums says it is correct04:29
jackal24bob2, i followed that whole wiki and it didn't work04:29
intelikeydrapelyk man cp04:29
bob2jackal24: "didn't work" is not a useful description of the problem04:30
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jackal24bob2, i could get ndiswrapper to install bcmwl5. The card showed in the network settings dialog and even showed the APs, but wouldn't connect...04:30
bob2jackal24: ignore the network settings dialog04:31
jackal24bob2, the light for the card won't light up04:31
bob2that sounds like the driver isn't working04:31
bob2what did dmesg say/04:31
jackal24dmesg?04:31
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bastiis it safe to delete files in /var/log ?04:31
KuyaedzI found that you have to be VERY specific in your drivers for ndiswrapper & Breezy04:31
bob2basti: usually, but it's not likely to be a lot of space04:31
bastibob2, just wanted to know ;) thx04:32
intelikeybasti files yes  dirs no.04:32
koharskican someone help me solve this:04:32
koharski(II) VESA(1): initializing int1004:32
koharski(EE) VESA(1): shmget(lowmem) error: Invalid argument04:32
bastiintelikey,  hmm ok :(04:32
koharskiit's from my XORG log04:32
jackal24bob2, what am i looking for in dmesg?04:32
cyphaseWho's nVidia card is working with 3D?04:32
mustard5jackal24, relevant error messages I would say04:32
bob2koharski: why are you using vesa?04:32
cyphasequick poll :)04:32
bob2cyphase: lots of people's04:33
Kuyaedzjackal24: you would want to look for any errors or the chipset of the card04:33
koharskicause it's an old Mach 64, for my second monitor04:33
cyphasebob2, yea04:33
cyphasemostly..04:33
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cyphaseme not being one of them :(04:33
WhyvasLTholy shit that survivor girl is hot04:33
mustard5jackal24, you ever used the pastebin?04:33
jackal24i think i am going to try and reload breezy from the beginning and start over04:33
mustard5heh04:34
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intelikeybasti if you did blank /var/log  and things start erroring out on you watch the error messages for 'can not write to or creat <blah>'   and make the dirs in /var/log that it is trying to make files in.04:34
steve_laptopcompiling sucks next problem is - -  Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!04:34
steve_laptopFor more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.04:34
bob2deleting directories from /var/log is a bad idea04:34
bob2steve_laptop: surely you can guess what the problem is?04:34
ElitePetei forget, can anyone tell me what the cmd is to download a file via ssh ?04:34
steve_laptopnew bee :)04:34
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intelikeydeleting /var is a 'never do this' itom04:35
bob2steve_laptop: it can't find the qt library04:35
bastiok. thans for the info intelikey . I restarted the service too just in case :)04:35
CuriousCathow do i stop samba from sharing my home directory?04:35
bob2steve_laptop: so install libqt3-mt-dev04:35
bob2CuriousCat: edit /etc/samba/smb.conf04:35
steve_laptopic04:35
steve_laptopthanks04:35
KuyaedzElitePete: is this just within your local network?04:35
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CuriousCatbob2: under homes browseable is already set to "no" and writable is also set to "no"04:35
ElitePeteKyuaedz i installed open ssh on this pc. i just want to get a text file from this pc via a remote xp machine using putty,04:36
bob2CuriousCat: so remove the block entirely04:36
CuriousCatbob2: did that as well. nothing.04:36
koharskiI'll explain my problem in full. I have breezy set up with xubuntu-desktop installed (server install). I started setting up a dual monitor system and my second graphics card is using the vesa driver. When I startx it loads on one monitor and the VESA just crashes with:04:36
koharski(II) VESA(1): initializing int1004:36
koharski(EE) VESA(1): shmget(lowmem) error: Invalid argument04:36
bimberiCuriousCat: did you restart samba?04:36
KuyaedzOoh, using OpenSSH you should have an SSH terminal client & an SSH Transfer client.  Do you have both?04:36
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steve_laptopbob2, thanks alot04:37
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ElitePetekuyaedz i donot know04:37
CuriousCatbimberi: how do i do that?04:37
merlyhmm. someone else was having problems with rt2500 earlier, right? is there an easy fix? the wiki page says it works "out of the box"04:37
bob2CuriousCat: the share exists even when you removed all references to it from smb.conf?04:37
benplaut!repos04:37
ubotuI guess repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource04:37
psycodei'm trying to compile a driver, and it fails because i'm missing /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build - how do i get the build file in there?04:37
bimberiCuriousCat: sudo invoke-rc.d samba restart04:37
koharskiso nobody can help me?04:37
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koharskimaybe my problem is fopr the forums04:37
acahghitester04:37
ElitePetekuyaedz how do i find out?04:38
acahghiiloveyou04:38
koharski?04:38
koharskiI live you too, asfhka04:38
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acahghiwhy?04:38
merly!rt250004:38
ubotumerly: Did you get hit by a windmill?04:38
acahghino04:38
koharskibah, fuck this04:38
CuriousCatbimberi: That did it. Thanks! :)04:38
sethkkoharski, that's somewhat unusual.  The configuration is seriously messed up.  I haven't done it that way04:38
sethkman, people are so patient today.04:39
bimberiCuriousCat: np :)04:39
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mustard5seth_k, yeah :)04:39
intelikeyaint they04:39
mustard5seth_k, one would think he could have waited a little longer :)04:39
acahghihi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!04:39
sethkmustard5, if they can't wait a few minutes, they won't do very well with linux anyway04:40
mustard5acahghi, are you after support for your ubuntu install?04:40
ryanhHello again... I was wondering if someone could step me through this. I'm attempting to configure a dual-boot system over three different hard drives, two of which are utilizing RAID 0. The raid hard drives are already in use as the Windows partition, and there is an ATA hard drive with a backup partition and 37.1GB of free space...04:40
mustard5seth_k, thats my thoughts too ;)04:40
ryanhNow, I'd like to get this working without erasing the RAID array.04:40
acahghipls.................chat me up...04:41
ryanhWill "Configure software RAID" possibly mess anything up?04:41
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seth_kmustard5, it's sethk you want, not me.04:41
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mustard5seth_k, ah sorry!04:41
seth_kno worries04:41
j1where can i go for crazychat04:41
fdelacruzgudmorning guys04:41
mustard5j1, anywhere else but here :)04:41
j1yeah, i guess so04:42
bimberij1: "/query acahghi" it would seem04:42
sethkryanh, just tell ubuntu not to use those drives at all.04:42
mustard5j1, this is a technical support channel04:42
fdelacruzanyone already or experienced in management of firestarter?04:42
j1oh04:42
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ryanhsethk: I want the bootloader to run things off of those drives04:42
intelikeyj1 #ubuntu-offtopic04:42
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acahghii dont know....im new user04:42
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j1ok04:42
sethkryanh, be very very very careful about that.  Install the bootloader later, manually04:42
j1thanks for all the tech support, i'm running fine here!04:43
acahghihi jl04:43
intelikeywelcome04:43
ryanhsethk: This is going to be very painful, isn't it?04:43
mustard5j1, you on ubuntu are you?04:43
j1hello acahghioul04:43
j1yes mustard04:43
j1a breezy beaver install04:43
j1that now runs kde3.504:43
sethkryanh, no, not really, just risky.  Back up the MBR on the raid drive before doing anything at all04:43
acahghihi jl i dontr know how to use it chatroom04:44
mustard5acahghi, there is a #ubuntu-offtopic channel and a #ubuntuforums channel for anything goes type chat04:44
sethkryanh, I don't really know the windows side terribly well04:44
optishanyone here have firestarter and dnsmasq working for dhcp?04:44
j1aca, ASL?04:44
acahghi] chat04:44
mustard5acahghi, in here is 'strictly support stuff' for the most part04:44
ryanhsethk: Okay... Is most of this on the wiki>04:44
acahghijl...21 M phils.04:45
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acahghiabout you jl?04:45
j159 m texas04:45
mustard5acahghi, and j1 can you take it to another channel plz?04:45
j1sorry mustard04:45
j1okey04:45
j1thanks again for the help04:45
optishokay how about anyone here using firestarter with dhcp for the lan?04:46
j1ubuntu rocks, i can't wait to get my free CD's to spread around04:46
mustard5j1, thats ok..if you have technical issues this the right channel to come to :)04:46
acahghihi ogra!!!04:46
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fdelacruzfirestarter user?04:46
tristan_I'm having trouble running any kind of 3D applications or games in GDE, the rendering, even on the lowest quality, is terrible and so slow that it's unplayable04:47
mustard5acahghi, can you go to one of the offtopic channels please?  This is not a channel for idle chit-chat. try #ubuntu-offtopic04:47
acahghihi rozen04:47
tristan_Any suggestions?04:47
Madpilottristan_: what brand of graphics card to you have?04:47
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acahghi#ubuntu-offtopic04:48
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tristan_Madpilot, ATI04:48
mustard5acahghi, the command is /join #ubuntu-offtopic04:48
Madpilottristan_: do you have the fglrx drivers installed?04:48
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tristan_Madpilot, let me check04:48
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acahghihi04:49
acahghihi04:49
acahghihi04:49
acahghihi04:49
tristan_Madpilot, I have the 'Non-free Linux 2.6.12 modules on 386' installed04:49
acahghihi04:49
optishi can't figure out why firestarter wont allow dhcp connections to the ubuntu server every other connection i configure firestarter for it allows....only thing is i am using dnsmasq server in place of dhcp3-server04:49
Madpilotacahghi: stop04:49
tristan_Madpilot, but not the kernel source04:49
acahghiwhy?04:50
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mustard5!ops04:50
ubotuHelp! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth04:50
Madpilottristan_: in  terminal, run "fglrxinfo" without the ""04:50
tristan_Madpilot, will do04:50
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tristan_Madpilot, the command was not found04:50
ajmitchacahghi: you were asked to stop the off-topic chat04:50
mustard5ajmitch, thanks04:50
ajmitchmustard5: I didn't even need to ban him :)04:51
mustard5ajmitch, hehehe04:51
Madpilottristan_: what? odd04:51
Madpilot!tell tristan_ about ati04:51
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qt2err, how do i know what kernel source i'm supposed to install? it's giving me a choice between linux-source-2.6.12 and 2.6.12-10.2404:51
mustard5qt2, what are you trying to do?  I don't know the context of the question04:52
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qt2mustard5, recompile the kernel.04:52
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qt2uname returns: 2.6.12-10-68604:53
acahghihi04:53
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mustard5acahghi, type /join #ubuntu-offtopic to join a different channel04:53
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qt2mustard5, i tried apt-getting linux source and it said i had to choose one of those explicitly...04:54
mustard5qt2, hmm ok...I've never done that myself...so I don't have much idea04:54
mustard5qt2, ah ok ..you are doing it from apt-get ok04:54
liam01try it thru synaptic04:55
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liam01qt2, try sudo apt-get install linux-68604:55
pdghi, does anyone have experience compiling programs with the boost libraries? The boost_regex, especifically04:55
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liam01i think that might get everything04:55
qt2liam01, already did.04:55
rosenis there a firewall in the basic ubuntu installation ?04:56
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Madpilotrosen: yes04:56
Sneaky_Bastardyes04:56
Sneaky_BastardIP Tables04:56
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mustard5rosen, iptables is built into the kernel..you can access it using firestarter as a frontend04:56
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intelikeyrosen not active by default tho04:57
bimberiqt2: install linux-tree04:57
tristan_Madpilot, I looked in my device manager, and Linux does not appear to be recognizing my ATI card04:57
qt2heh04:57
Madpilottristan_: what model?04:57
intelikeynot sure what rosen is asking....04:57
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rosenit was actually firestarter I was wondering about04:57
rosencan't seem to find it04:57
tristan_Madpilot, hard to tell since it doesn't recognize it - I could find out by rebooting in XP, but I'm busy in Linux atm04:58
mustard5!info firestarter04:58
ubotufirestarter: (gtk program for managing and observing your firewall), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.0.3-1.1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 384 kB, Installed size: 1904 kB04:58
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tristan_Madpilot, it's a mobile version04:58
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tristan_Madpilot, any issues with laptop ATI graphics chips?04:58
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mustard5rosen, according to ubotu its in the universe repository...so you may need enable that repository04:58
Madpilottristan_: not sure; I've got an ATI 9600XT in my desktop, but no experience w/ laptops...04:59
mustard5!tell rosen about repos04:59
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mustard5rosen, check for a PM from ubotu on enabling extra repositories04:59
rosengot it04:59
tristan_Madpilot, I see, let me look in the wiki, or in the forums and see if anybody has mentioned anything04:59
rosenthanks04:59
rosen...more reading :D04:59
intelikeyrosen you did notice the info on it ^  it's in universe  assuming you have 5.1004:59
tristan_Madpilot, thanks for your time!04:59
mustard5rosen, np come back if you have issues04:59
Madpilottristan_: np05:00
rosenwhat does that mean exactly ... 'in universe' ?05:00
GoldfishI already have evolution running on another computer. Is there any way to run it in a client-server mode, so I can this laptop's evolution to access the other machine's downloaded emails, etc.?05:00
Goldfish!repositories05:00
ubotuit has been said that repositories is How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list05:00
qt2bimberi, thanks!05:00
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intelikeyrosen the repos inode you got in mp from ubotu should answer that.05:00
qt2bimberi, err, does that set the default kernel config options to the ubuntu defaults?05:00
rosenah allright :)05:00
rosenintelikey, I'll shut up and read then ;)05:01
Neo0019I need help installing ubuntu on iMac G5?05:01
mustard5rosen, :)05:01
ericIf i want to chmod 777 a directory which contains multiple directories and all the files in the subsequent directories what should I do05:01
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tristan_Madpilot, actually, the video card is using pci-express, are there any known issues with ubunt and pci-express?05:01
Kelsey23test05:01
bimberiqt2: i don't know sorry05:01
Kelsey23ok05:01
Goldfisheric: chmod -R <--- recursive option05:01
qt2bimberi, that's fine :)05:01
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qt2anyone know?05:01
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bimberiqt2: if the config file is different to the one in /boot then you could possibly assume so05:02
Neo0019I'm having problem with ubuntu can someon help please05:02
Neo0019?05:02
mustard5Neo0019, state your problem and we will know then05:02
intelikeyrosen i don't mean to sound lazy(which i am) but either you read it there or i have to type it agian for you to read it here, i'm sure you understand.05:02
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qt2bimberi, hm, couldnt i just copy over the one from /boot?05:02
GoldfishNeo0019: Don't use two lines without even asking a question. What do you need?05:02
bimberiqt2: sure05:02
Madpilottristan_: no idea; I'm still using 8x AGP here05:03
qt2bimberi, any idea where i copy it to?05:03
Neo0019I'm trying to load ubuntu on an iMac G5 but I get the a white screen05:03
qt2not too experinced with kernels yet ^.^;05:03
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tristan_Madpilot, ahhh :-)  looks like I'm too advanced for my own good05:03
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ericCan you change ID3V tags on m4a files?05:03
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bimberiqt2: sorry i can't remember.  For me it's so long since i compiled one.  Haven't needed to since using ubuntu (Oct '04) :)05:04
mustard5Neo0019, at what stage of installing are you at?05:04
intelikeyNeo0019 you do have the right install cd?    not i?86 one ?05:04
bimberiqt2: perhaps some help here - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto05:04
qt2bimberi, thanks ^.^;05:04
Neo0019I haven't install nothing yet because it just stays on the white screen05:04
jrattner1Can i change ID3V tags on m4a files05:04
qt2bimberi, i'm trying to get ubuntu working perfectly on a toshiba sattelite... ;)05:05
mustard5qt2, there are a few HOW TO's in the ubuntuforum too I think05:05
Neo0019I think so yes intelikey05:05
qt2mustard5, thanks. ;)05:05
mustard5Neo0019, where did you get it from?05:05
Neo0019from the main page05:05
mustard5Neo0019, what was it called?05:06
Neo0019ubuntulinux.org05:06
tristan_Madpilot, I found an xorg-driver-fglrx package that was not yet installed05:06
mustard5Neo0019, the file you download that is :)05:06
Madpilottristan_: that's probably the one you need05:06
tristan_Madpilot, device drivers.... :-P05:06
ardchoilleczr: You know what, MEPIS and Knoppix didn't recognise either of these memory sticks either05:06
Neo0019Mustard5 do you know what is wrong then?05:06
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mustard5Neo0019, not yet...what was the file you downloaded called?05:07
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Madpilottristan_: there seems to be a sweet spot for device support w/ Linux, not too old or too new - and by pure chance, I'm right in that sweet spot; I've had no hardware troubles at all :P05:07
Neo0019ubuntu-5.10-live-powerpc.iso05:07
intelikeyNeo0019 mustard5 is trying to make sure that you did get the proper install cd.   now he'll move on.05:08
mustard5Neo0019, hmm ok05:08
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ispikedhow can I tell what package provides a given file?05:08
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tristan_Madpilot, and that's understandable when the developers are real people with real lives.  i can't expect them to just develop drivers for my hardware the day it comes out :-)  perhaps I need to do a little developing myself, haha05:08
mustard5Neo0019, ok..well we know you got the right one...my next question would be did you burn it as an ISO image or as data?05:09
Goldfishqt2: A great doc for HOWTO build custom kernels is http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html.en05:09
intelikeyispiked man apt-cache    or man dpkg   one of them have that facility05:09
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mustard5Neo0019, that is a liveCD too btw..its not the actual install disk05:09
qt2Goldfish, thanks.05:09
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ispikedintelikey: thanks.05:09
mustard5Neo0019, the LiveCD is for testing and previewing ubuntu05:09
Neo0019i'm pretty sure I did as an ISO05:09
Goldfishqt2: It lets you make the kernels as .deb's that you can install with dpkg.05:09
Neo0019oh...05:09
intelikeysearch for whatprovides05:10
Neo0019that is the problem then05:10
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qt2Goldfish, ahh, insnt the same thing at the wiki?05:10
intelikeyispiked use  /   and search for provides  in those man pages05:10
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mustard5Neo0019, well its not a problem really...it should still boot up and load Ubuntu05:10
Goldfishqt2: I don't know. Maybe. Wiki has lots of good stuff in it too.05:10
OktAnyone here able to lend a hand with getting fglrx to work with my X850?05:10
optishi'm going mad....i can't figure out why firestarter isnt allowing dhcp connections for lan connections....someone help please05:10
Goldfish!wiki make-kpkg05:10
mustard5Neo0019, the fact that you have a white screen is still a problem05:11
qt2Goldfish, <3 wiki.05:11
Neo0019What could I do to fix it?05:11
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mustard5Neo0019, I think it might be worth checking to make sure you burnt it as an ISO image rather than as a data disk05:11
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qt2Goldfish, unless you know a way i can just recompile the kernel to change one option without much fuss? :P05:11
mustard5Neo0019, I'm trying to think how though :)05:11
Goldfishqt2: Just one sec...05:11
int7ahuh?05:12
Neo0019I used Toast 7 to burn it05:12
Neo0019and I did select ISO image05:12
shanonxis there a better mozilla firefox plugin for viewing videos, better than Mplayer? Mine seems to always be jerky.05:12
ispikedintelikey: `dpkg --search' did the trick. thanks again.05:12
mustard5Neo0019,  hmmm...ok05:12
Goldfishqt2: /boot/config-x.y.z is the set of parameters for your installed kernels. You would have to download the source kernel, and copy in that file as .config. That would be your basis for altering and building a similar, new kernel.05:12
intelikeyany time ispiked05:12
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Neo0019I mean would still boot up if it was burn as data?05:12
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qt2Goldfish, so basically, recompile  the kernel.05:13
mustard5Neo0019, no05:13
Neo0019ok just making sure05:13
Goldfishqt2: Basically, there is no such thing as "recompiling a kernel with no fuss." make-kpkg streamlines the process a lot as the web page I linked shows. It is a good process to learn, in my opinion.05:13
mustard5Neo0019, the way you have done it is correct...burnt it as an image to the CD05:13
mustard5Neo0019, the other thing to do is to check that the download was not corrupted05:14
qt2Goldfish, heh, i'll proactice it some later... ;)05:14
Neo0019How could I do that?05:14
intelikeymd5sum05:14
mustard5Neo0019, I'm just getting some links for you...brb05:14
qt2Goldfish, just want to get cpu scaling working on this toshiba.05:14
Goldfishqt2: Well, I didn't learn how to compile kernels until I actually needed to. That is the basis for everthing I have learned in Linux. When you need something, you go learn a new trick!05:15
Neo0019ok05:15
mustard5Neo0019, you would need to run an md5sum checker on the ISO05:15
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Goldfishqt2: I don't really know anything about CPU scaling, but if the docs say that is a kernel thing, I guess so.05:15
mustard5Neo0019, then md5 checksum for that particular install should be on the page you downloaded it from..or linked from it05:15
intelikeyGoldfish and after a few years you can jump through hoops on demand :)05:16
qt2Goldfish, i've compiled kernels before, was jsut wondering if there was a simple way to do it like everything else in ubuntu.05:16
qt2i think that'd be one of the most awesome things to have.05:16
qt2some sort of intergrated frontend tht you could go into and just check things off and reboot.05:16
Goldfishqt2: Well, make-kpkg is pretty slick, compared to the old fashioned make; make config; make dep; make this; make that; make blah.....05:16
qt2would be the ultimate in linux on the desktop. ;)05:16
rosenintelikey, yeah ofc I understand ;) ... sorry I was busy reading05:17
qt2with it being integrated like the rest of ubuntu is i mena.05:17
Goldfishqt2: Sounds like a new project for sourceforge.net, to me!05:17
GoldfishHe05:17
rosenintelikey, think I'll spend a few days reading faqs and howto's before I do any major damage :P05:17
Goldfishheh05:17
qt2Goldfish, you'd essentially be completly hiding the kernel from the end user.05:17
qt2Goldfish, i think... that i'm going to try it, as my first project.05:17
intelikeynp rosen, you getting the repos setup ok?05:18
mustard5Neo0019, have you ever done and md5sum check before?05:18
bclAnyone have a simple way to get transcode and dvdrip working in 5.04? The repository appears to be broken at the moment.05:18
qt2Goldfish, now i've just gotta learn c... and gtk... and... <insert knowledge of something here>05:18
Neo0019No man i'm pretty new at all this05:18
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Goldfishqt2: I was building a mythtv box and needed to turn on bttv drivers for my TV card. I also had to tinker with nvidia graphics drivers. It took awhile to get one working properly. :)05:18
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mustard5Neo0019, ok..can you find one online that works for you system using google?05:18
rosenintelikey, nah still reading ... there is so many loose ends I need to get tied together05:18
Goldfishqt2: Is gtk a gnome TK thingy?05:18
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qt2Goldfish, i believe so.05:19
Neo0019ok05:19
rosenintelikey, navigating the filesystem still causes problems for me .. I'm that new05:19
bclqt2, give pyGTK a try if you don't want to jump right into C + GTK+05:19
mustard5Neo0019, try searching with md5checksum freeware or some keywords like that05:19
qt2Goldfish, pretty much all the gnome apps seem to be in gtk nowadays it seems o.O;05:19
intelikeyrosen repos is no biggy     to edit the sources list use 'sudo apt-setup '  is the safest way.05:19
qt2i wonder... what's xchat's done in?05:19
Neo0019ok thanks05:19
Neo0019I'll be back with results05:20
Neo0019brb05:20
GoldfishI already played with TK in the past. Not my favorite graphics language. I have written expectk system maintenance scripts in the past.05:20
bclqt2, looks like gtk+, it uses pango for part of its font rendering.05:20
rosenintelikey, I'll try that when I return from work ;) .... damn Ubuntu kept me up all night05:20
qt2bcl, thanks ;)05:20
qt2Goldfish, well, i really like how well xchat integrates, so looks like i'll be doing it in gtk+ ;)05:21
NEURAL_NETsomebody now the major and minor number for /dev/hd ???05:21
rosenintelikey, well ubuntu and that hot brunette on Gaim :D05:21
NEURAL_NETknow05:21
intelikeyrosen k, good night.05:21
rosennight night :)05:21
qt2err, does anyone know how i apply the ubuntu patches? o.O;05:22
NEURAL_NET mknod -m 666 hd X X X05:22
GoldfishI have gotten hooked on python recently. I am standing up a mediawiki site at work, and found there was a python-based setup of tools to automate pages. That is cool.05:22
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sambagirldoes openview work with ubuntu?05:22
intelikeyGoldfish there is in perl too05:23
intelikey!info openview05:23
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intelikeythere doesn't seem to be a packaged binarry sambagirl, and sense i don't know what it is, i can't answer.05:24
sambagirlok thanks i will check with hp.05:24
GoldfishI like python's mix of functional + OO programming options. I thought their stuff to be very readable. I read http://diveintopython.org.05:25
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qt2err, is there a reason the kernel wants me to compile with gcc 3.4 instead of gcc 40?05:25
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Goldfishsambagirl: You talking about HP Openview, element management software?05:25
qt2*4.005:25
sambagirlyes goldfish05:25
intelikeyit has been said that OO programming is almost as evil as the old dos "goto"05:25
ajmitchqt2: yes05:26
qt2ajmitch, why's that?05:26
sambagirlsecondly will vista medical software work with ubuntu since it is tailored for debian?05:26
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ajmitchqt2: because there were issues with it & gcc 4.005:26
bclGoldfish, I got hooked by ESR's article in LJ. Python is now my hammer of choice (everything looks like a nail). Clean syntax and OO features you can ignore if you want to.05:26
paxmasterhello I have a small digital camera, How could I make it work in linux05:26
paxmasterto store photo05:27
hyphenatedpaxmaster: plug it in05:27
qt2ajmitch, ah, okay.05:27
bclpaxmaster, does it have a USB interface?05:27
intelikeysambagirl probably.  although you may have to compile from source.05:27
paxmasteryeah it usb05:27
bclpaxmaster, try plugging it in.05:27
sambagirlahh ok.05:27
sambagirlthanks again intelikey05:27
paxmasteri plug it in and the camera turn on05:27
hyphenatedmy digital camera presents itself just like a USB Storage device05:28
sambagirlhere is 1 more question, since debian was distributed on the amigaone orignailly will ubuntu ppc version work on amigaone ppc?05:28
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Goldfishbcl: I have played with cx_Oracle to talk to Oracle database servers, and omniORB for CORBA. Unfortunately, our app servers' IDL files weren't CORBA compliant. :(05:28
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Goldfishbcl: I couldn't write a python gateway to replace the java gateway we currently have.05:28
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rob_can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong?  Everytime I try and do make install I get this05:29
rob_rob@ubuntu-rob:~/ndiswrapper-1.7$ sudo make install05:29
rob_sudo: make: command not found05:29
intelikeysambagirl you probably know that ub is deb based, but that does not mean debian packages will work on ubuntu,  but debian sources will.       and as for ppc i'm mac illiterate.05:29
sambagirlok05:29
paxmasterbut I can't see the device such like a usb fash drive05:30
intelikeymaybe i should reword that.  the source packages will.05:30
sambagirlso in other words, you can compile the source to make binaries but you cannot guarantee binaries off the shelf will work but if you compile the source, it might work.05:30
intelikeyexactly05:30
sambagirli see05:30
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intelikeywell change that last clause to  will work and you got it.05:31
sambagirlok05:31
Milk_I've run across this issue before and have never resolved it, but I've got no options in the network settings to enable windows networking after installing samba05:31
Milk_any ideas?05:31
qt2so wait..... to apply these patches.. i have to be in /usr src linux and run sudo /usr/src/linux-patches/i386/2.6.12/apply/debian?05:32
NEURAL_NETsomebody know a page whit the major and minor number for all DEV05:32
NEURAL_NET???05:32
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NEURAL_NETsome table05:32
rob_does anyone know why I get this error when I try to sudo make install?05:32
rob_sudo: make: command not found05:32
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Goldfishrob_: locate make | grep bin05:33
bclrob_, looks like make isn't installed.05:33
intelikeyand sambagirl before starting to compile anything always check for a ubunut.deb        synaptic or  'apt-cache search blah '05:33
merly[1] well. i got the wireless working. but i still can't get the widescreen resolution . (pouty)05:33
rob_ok, how would I go about installing it?05:33
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sambagirlok intelikey05:33
liquidboyi've installed xubuntu, and now all the fonts are really small, and i'm pretty sure the coloures have gone from 24 to 16 bit05:33
liquidboyweird...05:33
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fedeseveas: hello, I'm running easybreezy script, it's stuck trying to fetch http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl//pool/breezy-extras/bmp-docklet-1.3_1.3-1_i386.deb05:34
fede from your repos, could you tell me if there's a problem with your repo? Thanks a lot!05:34
Goldfishrob_: Either use synaptic, and find project "make" or type sudo apt-get install make05:34
nutterpchello all05:34
SCMarkmerly[1] : what lcd do you have?05:34
intelikeythat's about all i can do for you right now.    i'll be back in a few.....05:34
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merly[1] sc - its whatever came standard on my cheapo averatec. sis something or other05:34
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merly[1] sc- i am booting into win to make sure i had my numbers right05:35
dnBubotu, frostwire?05:35
ubotuNo idea, dnB05:35
dnBhrmf.05:35
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dnBcan someone lemme know how to install frostwire?05:35
SCMarkmerly[1] : in order to get widescreen support on my Dell 2005fpw I had to include extra lines in my xorg.conf file05:35
merlysc - is that your webpage about this stuff? because i read a page along those lines.05:35
merly:v)05:35
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liquidboyi've increased the text size, and everything expcept the text in this chat room (the names along the side are ok) is small05:36
liquidboywhat am i doing wrong?05:36
merlyperhaps it would help if i put 1280 x 800 instead of 1200 x 800, eh?05:36
SCMarkprobably05:37
SCMarknot my webpage tho05:37
Goldfishliquidboy: What resolution are you running?05:37
steve_laptopok im lossing it grrr I need my wireless, but everything keeps failing after ./configure grrrrrr05:37
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merlyscmark did you ahve to know your refresh rate?05:37
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merlyscmark - becaues i don't know how to find that out05:37
Siph0nneone ever heard of IglooFTP here?05:38
disposable_mikeSiph0n: i have05:38
liquidboygoldfish 1024*76805:38
liquidboyat 60hz05:38
Siph0ndisposable_mike, u ever use it?05:38
Goldfishliquidboy: Hmm...same thing I have. Everything is big on my system, the way I like it.05:38
ajmitchah, f-spot 0.1.4, fun05:38
merlyscmark will you remind me where i can find xorg.conf?05:39
disposable_mikeSiph0n: briefly05:39
liquidboygoldfish, i've increased the text size, and it works, except for the text in this chat room and for firefox05:39
SCMarkmerly: /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:39
Kuyaedzmerly: /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:39
SCMarkmerly: make a backup before editing it though05:39
Madpilotliquidboy: Firefox uses it's own font settings05:39
disposable_mikeSiph0n: i believe that it was under windows at the time, however05:39
OktI am getting the error "[fglrx:firegl_init]  *ERROR* Device not found!" and when I run "fglrxconfig" it isn't detecting my GPU. Any suggestions?05:40
quackerheh, Madpilot, stoner, yer back05:40
merlystupid, stupid wireless.05:40
Siph0ndisposable_mike, oh ok... cause i like it :) but i asked if neone knew of any ide ftp clients before and no one mentioned it :)05:40
SCMarkmerly:  and make sure you are comfortable with the command line because if something doesn't work, that's what you will be left with05:40
merlyoh, oh, how i hate you.05:40
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liquidboynadpilot, why does it work fine in gnome, (and fluxbox) but changes for xfce?05:40
nutterpcmy god, whoever thought solving one of those brainbending issues could be so relieving :)05:40
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Madpilotliquidboy: no idea, I don't use Firefox regularly... and getting my nick right works better, btw :P05:41
sambagirlnad pilot ;D05:41
sambagirllol05:41
liquidboynadpilot, heh, i couldnt see it properly :S05:42
liquidboytoo small05:42
navaronelol05:42
sambagirli had same problem liquidboy05:42
liquidboysambagirl, did you fix it? how?05:42
sambagirlchange your desktop to a readable thing.05:42
disposable_mikeSiph0n: are you talking under ubuntu? i use gFTP without issue under Ubuntu05:42
sambagirli changed to 800X600 and then i change the settings for font size in the various applications.05:42
Siph0ndisposable_mike, yea ubuntu... lol i tryed gFTP, but EVERY time i try and upload or download a file in ftp mode it just closes05:43
sambagirlworks for everything but Gaim05:43
sambagirland they dont help you in that channel ;)05:43
Siph0ndisposable_mike, i can upload/download fine in ssh mode tho....05:43
disposable_mikeSiph0n: have you messed with the configs? some servers are picky about passive/active and ascii/binary05:43
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Siph0ndisposable_mike, ill try later :) thanx for the info05:43
merlyscmark - ok done. now to i reboot?05:44
merlyor can i just exit out of x and restart x?05:44
disposable_mikeSiph0n: sure05:44
htetsamba as in brasil or samba as in linux file system for windows ?05:44
htet:D05:44
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Siph0nbut still my dvds write slow :( neone know of a different dvd burner other than k3b?05:44
htetNero05:45
SCMarkmerly: yep.  And if it doesn't work then use your backup.  You can restart X with /etc/init.d/gdm restart05:45
Siph0nhtet: for ubuntu?05:45
htethttp://www.nero.com/en/NeroLINUX.html05:45
SCMarkmerly:  that restarts x without having to totally reboot your system05:45
SCMarkmerly:  but it will close all your gnome applications (since X11 stopped)05:46
SCMarkmerly:  you will have to use sudo05:46
intelikeycdrecord ?05:46
merlyhrmm... looks ok so far....05:46
!lilo:*! that was a small regional server, affected users, about 25005:46
merlywe have 1280 x 800!!!05:47
merlyw00t05:47
htetSiph0n: I haven'tt tried it yet. you need to try it yourself05:47
navaronethat's an odd resolution? laptop?05:47
merlyand wireless.05:47
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merlybut, i don't think the wireless will come up right at boot time.05:47
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merlyi still have to do iwconfig ra0 key 130487348721405:47
merlywhatever05:48
merlythank you so much!05:48
merlythis is ever so much better05:48
SCMarkhtet: use k3b05:48
GoldfishDon't tell me you just dumped your key out in a public IRC channel.05:48
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Sneaky_Bastardmerly: not to bright05:48
Sneaky_Bastardtoo05:48
Sneaky_Bastardmake a new key now05:48
Sneaky_BastardNOW05:48
SCMarkmerly: the correct X11 conf is always better than the incorrect one05:48
GoldfishI'm ready to hack a wireless network now!05:48
intelikeyis that standard widescreen rez ?   1200x80005:48
GoldfishIs this channel logged?05:49
htetSCMark: Thanks, but siph0n said it is slow.05:49
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Sneaky_Bastard1200 x 800 ? no way05:49
Sneaky_Bastard1024 x 76805:49
Sneaky_Bastard800 x 60005:49
Sneaky_Bastard1280 x 102405:50
owner9891280 x 1024 is good05:50
htet<--- never tried burning on linux before.05:50
merlyinteli - i think rich people get even bigger than 128005:50
SCMarkhtet: yeah.  it's a kde app so the gnome equivalent will probably be better.  My roomate was yelling at me to write it05:50
NEURAL_NETyeeess05:50
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NEURAL_NETi'm a geniuuus05:50
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intelikeySneaky_Bastard that's not wide screen.05:50
NEURAL_NETthe device files is created05:50
NEURAL_NET:P05:50
Siph0nhtet: k thanx... yea im not sure if its softare, or dvds, or the burner it self...05:50
Siph0ni never tryed this burner in windows before...05:50
merlyso. does gnome do a nifty right-click-menu thing if i know how?05:50
Goldfish1280x800 is the next 4:3 increment above 1024x768.05:50
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htet<----will give a try to both k3b and nero, just bought Plexter PX 740A!!!!!05:51
NEURAL_NETwhat do you need to burn???05:51
NEURAL_NETCD-ISO05:51
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NEURAL_NET???05:51
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benplautyo... what are your favorite linux new sites?05:52
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Siph0nubuntuforums.org :)05:52
benplautjust freed up a bunch of space on google.com/ig, i need more feeds :P05:52
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benplautSiph0n: i've always got a tab open for that, anyway :P05:52
phateIs there way to share an internet connection? or possibly make a network bridge?05:52
Siph0nk :)05:52
Siph0ni seen sometin somwhere phate, so probally yes i just dont know how :)05:53
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intelikeyah 1920x1200 is what i was thinking of i guess.05:54
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OktI am getting the error "[fglrx:firegl_init]  *ERROR* Device not found!" and when I run "fglrxconfig" it isn't detecting my GPU. Any suggestions?05:57
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intelikeywide screen is  16:9  not  4:3  ?05:59
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Toma-correct05:59
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intelikeyok then what is default rez on wide screen ?06:00
deflux-Hi all, I self compiled apache2 (I needed some stuff configured differently than the one available in the repositories).  When trying to start, I see (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:80, however, netstat doesn't show anything listening on that port...06:00
student\j zamboanga06:00
deflux-Is there anything going on with ubuntu that I don't know about?  (I'm a FreeBSD user, so this is new to me)06:00
intelikeystudent  /j06:01
studenthello06:01
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studentthanks06:01
sambagirltest06:01
intelikeywb sambagirl06:01
johnwis there a way to write to an NTFS partition?06:01
studenthow much space does ubuntu needs to be install? anybody?06:02
johnwI know how to mount them, but they are read-only06:02
NEURAL_NETecho "#!/bin/sh" > ./initrc06:02
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deflux-johnw: My understanding is that they're read-only.06:02
sambagirlthanks intelikey06:02
NEURAL_NETwhy that command write nothing into initrc06:02
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deflux-actually.06:02
NEURAL_NET???06:02
fizdevjohnw: there's a program that lets you do it, but it is not recommended06:02
deflux-I hear that there is experimental write.06:02
deflux-But I wouldn't suggest using it.06:02
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intelikeystudent server install is about 300m  full default install about 1.4g06:03
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NEURAL_NETecho "#!/bin/sh" > ./initrc   <===== The command write nothing into file06:03
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deflux-johnw: http://www.linux-ntfs.org/06:03
studenthow about a default install06:03
NEURAL_NETwhy06:03
intelikeystudent to leave room to add apps and maybe dl a few things i recomend at least 5g06:03
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johnwdeflux: linux-ntfs.org is linux on an ntfs disk right?06:04
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studentbut i only have 2g can i still install ubuntu?06:04
Toma-NEURAL_NET: try getting rid of ./06:04
deflux-johnw: No.06:04
deflux-It's a replacement ntfs driver.06:04
intelikeysee eariler student ^06:04
mustard5student, thats a little tight..only 2gb06:04
sambagirlstudent you can use the livecd06:04
bnicodemusAnyone know the boot parameter to force Ubuntu to boot into runlevel 1, i.e. to not try and load X? I'm trying to fix an X problem and my system keeps hanging. I can't even get to a boot prompt. thanks.06:04
studentthanks guys06:05
intelikeymustard5 default is 1.406:05
mustard5intelikey, k06:05
mustard5intelikey, not much room to play with after :)06:05
intelikeyif you are used to that small of an hd it is lots of room.06:06
intelikey600m06:06
mustard5yeah06:06
mustard5intelikey, my daughter has a 3gb drive and she runs ubuntu06:06
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intelikeyi had ub installed on a p133 with 600m hdd06:07
mustard5:)06:07
intelikey64m ram and no swap06:07
deflux-wtf06:07
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fizdevomg... I suppose you didn't have x?06:07
intelikeyyes i did06:08
ircnirc test06:08
intelikeynot gnome06:08
fizdevlol06:08
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ElitePeteintelikey i wouldn't want to be that pc06:08
ElitePete;-006:08
intelikeyfluxbox06:08
mustard5irc, we see you :)06:08
irchmm better get a better username....06:08
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ircit's chaumurky I'm just trying to get my head around 'nirc'06:08
navaroneis nirc a client?06:09
ircncurses based. I can ssh to my box from work and run this in the console ;-)06:09
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intelikeybx like06:09
intelikeyonly bx is tlc based06:10
defendguinany word on firefox 1.5 for breezy?06:10
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ircno I think06:10
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bimberi!firefox1506:10
ubotusomebody said firefox15 was see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for information on how to install Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org06:10
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NEURAL_NETroot@host:/home/user/inird-root# echo "#!/bin/sh" > ./initrc06:11
NEURAL_NETbash: !/bin/sh" > ./initrc: event not found06:11
intelikeysingle quote06:11
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ElitePetehm06:12
intelikeyforget something ?06:12
ElitePetenope06:13
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chaumurkynirc test06:14
chaumurkyw))t06:14
chaumurkyhaha06:14
chaumurkynow to save the profile...06:14
intelikey /help06:15
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ElitePeteit's weird, ssh'ing into your own machine and running irssi06:16
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intelikeyyeah some people like irssi06:17
ElitePeteyea, i don't06:17
ElitePeteback to xcha06:17
ElitePetet06:17
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intelikeyme either but i use bx06:17
timsathcan anyone help me with something simple...06:17
timsathfor some reason my ps/2 mouse wont work after i installed ubuntu06:17
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timsathi searched the forums, but I can't find anything helpful06:17
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mustard5timsath, what type of ps2 mouse?06:18
timsathi have a thinkpad 600E06:18
timsathGE06:18
timsathoptical one06:18
timsathi didnt have any issues with it in gentoo or bsd06:18
ElitePetei do have a question, i can't seem to open links automatically anymore with firefox, what could be wrong?06:18
frogzootimsath: couple of places to look - /var/log/messages & /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:18
timsathyeah im in xorg.conf right now06:18
timsathhmm06:18
timsaththe cursor is there06:18
optishwhat policy do i add to firestarter for it to allow dhcp request from the lan to dnsmasq's dhcp server?06:19
timsathbut it wont move, lol06:19
frogzootimsath: right driver?06:19
timsaththats what im unsure about06:19
timsathhow do i check the drivers?06:19
intelikeymaybe 'od /dev/psaux '   and move the mouse, see if it outputs anything.06:19
timsathaiight ill try that06:19
frogzoocheck /var/log/messages mebbe grep -i ps2 /var/log/messages06:19
timsathholy crap my x server just crapped06:19
steve_laptopouch06:20
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linux_n00b_ehello!06:20
ElitePetei do have a question, i can't seem to open links automatically anymore with firefox, what could be wrong?06:20
frogzooElitePete: what changed?06:21
linux_n00b_eI have a quick, embarrasing question....06:21
mustard5ElitePete, what do you mean by automatically?06:21
intelikeychanged the settings didntya06:21
frogzoolinux_n00b_e: no prelims please - just ask your question06:21
ElitePetefrogzoo installed firefox 1.5, i mean automatically like "open with webbrowser"06:21
linux_n00b_eHow do I quit applications from running from the console?06:21
tonyyarussolinux_n00b_e: Ctrl-C06:21
timsathwow my computer is going nuts06:21
timsathi have no idea what i did06:21
frogzooElitePete: ur on your own - ubuntu's supported browser is 1.0.706:21
rob_poptish:  I think inbound UDP port 67, outbound UDP port 68 (or the other way around - can't remember for sure!).06:21
timsathmy x server keeps crashing o_O06:21
tonyyarussolinux_n00b_e: For ones you started there.06:21
timsathsigh06:21
timsathreboot time06:22
tonyyarussolinux_n00b_e, or did you mean their launchers are referencing the console?06:22
linux_n00b_eOk, I can't use that. I started a karamba that doesn't seem to be working correctly and I don't see a button for it on my kicker so I wanted to quit it to see what was wrong.06:22
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Fr0Gsi have made a samba domain for windowsnt sometimes when i log off and relog back on i get this square box popup saying cant write C:\documents & settings\lan\forggy.xml to \\ubuntu\profiles\lan\forggy.xml File may be in use how can i make it force overwrite?06:23
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linux_n00b_eI started it using the utilities section of my K menu..06:24
intelikeytimsath sounds like a 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg '  is in order.06:24
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linux_n00b_eso now I want to stop it from running, but i don't see a button for it so I'm trying to figure out who to stop it....06:24
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navaronewould I find ncurses headers in libncurses-dev?06:24
timsathok06:25
timsathintelikey06:25
timsathrun that command?06:25
intelikeylinux_n00b_e in a terminal 'pkillall <app> '06:25
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linux_n00b_eoh, thanks!06:25
intelikeytimsath that command yes will let you reconfigure your xwindow system, including the mouse.06:26
Hobbseenavarone: yes, i recall so06:26
Hobbseenavarone: what do you need it for?  prozilla?06:26
chaumurky<navarone> go sudo apt-get install naim. APT'll pull in the rest.06:26
linux_n00b_eThe terminal says pkillall: command not found06:27
navaroneHobbsee, I am gonna attempt compiling Rhapsody from sorceforge...its an irc client06:27
Hobbseenavarone: ah fun :)06:27
linux_n00b_eis that something that I need to install?06:27
intelikeysorry drop the  P06:27
timsathahh ok06:27
navaroneHobbsee, if this works it will be first successful compile for me...lol06:27
Hobbsee:)06:27
linux_n00b_eok...06:27
Hobbseenavarone: you using checkinstall?06:28
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tk401hey everyone06:28
quackeryoh06:28
navaroneHobbsee, have not gotten that far yet06:28
tk401does anyone know of any GUIs to manage samba other than swat?06:28
Hobbsee!tell navarone about checkinstall06:28
Hobbseeuseful thing :)06:29
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linux_n00b_eThanks intelikey, that worked great! 06:29
chaumurkywhat's Rhapsody?06:29
timsathi think i found the problem06:30
intelikeylinux_n00b_e if you need to check the process table for exact name use 'ps -A ux'     also   an 'sudo kill -9 <pid number> '  is super kill   you might make a mintel note.06:30
timsathapparently xorg.conf had a touchpad in it06:30
timsathi def do not have one of those06:30
timsathlol06:30
DeezNutsnewbie needs help....totem won't play mp3's; no decoders found06:30
timsaththats probably what was causing it06:30
Hobbsee!mp306:30
ubotufrom memory, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:30
Trashcan!tell deeznuts about restricted formats06:30
DeezNutsgracias!06:30
linux_n00b_ethanks intelikey, I'll write that down.06:30
timsathubuntu has like really good wifi support right?06:31
timsathi never got it to work in gentoo or BSD06:31
timsathim hoping this will have better support for it06:31
mustard5timsath, it seems to ..there is always ndiswrapper06:31
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timsathyeah, i have had no success with ndiswrapper06:31
timsathno matter what distro i've used06:31
timsath:(06:31
mustard5timsath, what card you got?06:31
bimberitimsath: see if there's any guidance here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards06:31
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timsathnetgear WG11106:31
timsathand i have a linksys wusb54G06:32
jackal24!paste06:32
ubotuit has been said that paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text06:32
mustard5!wireless06:32
uboturumour has it, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards06:32
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linux_n00b_eSometimes, when I quit Ubuntu, it kicks me into a full screen terminal instead of quitting. Could I use 'killall' to close Ubuntu if that ever happens again?06:32
mustard5timsath, ubotu has a list of supported stuff at the link above06:32
Hobbseelinux_n00b_e: and when it does, you want the entire machine to shutdown?06:32
timsathwell all be damned: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WG111HowTo06:32
linux_n00b_eYeah06:32
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linux_n00b_eLike I'm not trying to quit my session, just shutdown the whole machine.06:33
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Hobbseelinux_n00b_e: well wait a few seconds - sometimes it just flashes to the terminal before shutting down, otherwise, log into the terminal, and type "sudo shutdown now -h"06:34
qt2err, the wiki told me to use "fakeroot" with make kpkg, but i tried that, and it's giving me this error:06:34
qt2cp: cannot create regular file `config.precious': Permission denied06:35
intelikeylinux_n00b_e that 'full screen terminal'  is probably a "console"  terminals run in X   while X runs in a console.    from the console type 'sudo init 0 '   to power off the box  or 'sudo init 6 '  for a reboot.   ( also same as [ctrl] +[alt] +[delete]  )06:35
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slashx1896He06:35
slashx1896Hey all06:35
intelikeyhey06:35
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slashx1896is there a way of dling songs like limewire? gnutella doesnt work for me...06:36
Fujitsulinux_n00b_e, on my Breezy machine it drops me to the terminal for ages before actually saying anything. Everything happens on the old X terminal for me (ie pty7)06:36
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studshi wana chat06:36
chaumurky???06:36
mustard5slashx1896, http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther06:36
senectushow do you _SEND_ a file using scp?06:36
slashx1896studs, this isnt chat room..this is for ubuntu help06:36
FujitsuThat was a quick visit...06:36
Fujitsusenectus, reverse the arguments06:36
chaumurkybot06:37
slashx1896o.o06:37
slashx1896who06:37
intelikeyFujitsu pty7 or tty7 ?06:37
FujitsuSorry, tty.06:37
mustard5slashx1896, you need java to install from limewire site06:37
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slashx1896i think i have not sure tho...06:37
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linux_n00b_eThanks. One more question: I'm using apt-get install to install superkaramba. I got a message saying that it 'depends on kdelibs4 not in sid anymore'; Is it ok to still install superkaramba?06:37
intelikeytty's are consoles06:37
slashx1896mustard5, i dont remember if i got it or not06:37
senectusFujitsu, can you show me an example06:37
mustard5slashx1896, type about:plugins in your firefox address bar and look for javaplugin06:38
chaumurkyFujitsu, (OT) how do you do that 3rd person thingy?06:38
slashx1896i dont use firefox.. it wont let me ever since i got mediaconnectivy or something06:38
Fujitsusenectus: scp /path/to/some/file username@host:/path/to/put/it06:38
slashx1896i use epiphany06:38
senectusFujitsu, sweet thanks man06:38
mustard5slashx1896, k06:38
mustard5slashx1896, well i will show you a link to install anyway :)06:39
mustard5!javadeb06:39
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ubotusomebody said javadebs was Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/ To install these, open a terminal, cd to the directory you downloaded them to, and type "sudo dpkg -i filename.deb"06:39
intelikeylinux_n00b_e "sid"  you got debian sources in your /etc/apt/sources.list ?06:39
slashx1896whenever i load firefox it doesnt a mediaplayerconnectivty wizard thing, i hit next and then it freazes and exits06:39
DeezNutsThanks for your help with mp3's!06:39
linux_n00b_eI don't know...06:39
mustard5slashx1896, read stuff that ubotu said above06:39
slashx1896i know06:39
slashx1896just sein if i can get both problems fixed ;)06:39
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mustard5slashx1896, what media player you using?06:40
slashx1896mplayer06:40
mustard5slashx1896, so did you try getting rid of totem as default?06:40
Madpilotif I'm burning .flac files onto an audio CD w/ k3b, do I have to explicitly convert them to .wav first, or will k3b handle that when I hit the Burn button?06:40
slashx1896i think i did06:40
viperXI'm clueless to whole Debian thing.06:40
slashx1896i have java06:40
mustard5slashx1896, I would think there are still references to totem in firefox then06:40
slashx1896mustard5, so what do i do?06:41
intelikeyviperX check your sources against the list06:41
defendguinwow the mozilla.org build of firefox is like 3 times faster than the ubuntu build06:41
mustard5slashx1896, I'm not sure..I've seen someone with the answer in here once..but I don't recall what it was06:41
slashx1896o06:41
viperXHow do i accomplish that?06:41
defendguinhow did that happen06:41
intelikeyviperX lists at  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)06:42
mustard5slashx1896, you could try a search on ubuntuforums.org06:42
viperXWhat do i do if there are differences?06:43
slashx1896How do i install limewiere? wine?06:43
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cozHello all06:43
cafuegolimewire is a java app, no windows shite required.06:43
intelikeyyou can use 'sudo apt-setup '  and choose manually edit viperX and fix it.06:43
cozall of a sudden I have a problem with xchat06:43
slashx1896oh cause i saw a .exe06:43
viperXok06:44
coznormally I just go to freenode, under server join channel type it in and I am here06:44
cafuegoslashx1896: Yes, that's how windows installs it.06:44
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coznow, I go to sever it only says connect or disconnect and it tells that Nick something or other is already taken06:44
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mustard5slashx1896, no..there should be a linux install of some kind there06:44
viperXWhen i run apt-get update, that will automatically install the updates right?06:45
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tonyyarussoslashx1896: By mediaconnectivity do you mean the extension?  Because you can probably still disable that, right?  Otherwise, I had to remove references to Totem a few days ago in FF1.5.06:45
walkingiceviperX: no06:45
oxezviperX: it updates your repos iirc06:45
walkingiceviperX:  apt-get update  just update your source.list06:45
mustard5viperX, that updates the package lists only06:45
holycowoh man06:45
slashx1896yeah the extension i need it for my vids06:45
intelikeyviperX if you run apt-setup it will automaticly update when you finish editing the sources list.06:46
viperXOH...... ;)06:46
holycowi'm addicted to the stumbleupon extension for firefox06:46
holycowits like the 'good' filter for the net06:46
walkingiceviperX:  apt-get upgrade   :06:46
viperXaHHHHH06:46
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holycowi think i will haveto actually uninstall that that extension06:46
intelikeywalkingice no viperX has deb sources he needs to get rid of.06:47
holycowbut only after a few more clicks06:47
slashx1896Wait so how do i install limewire?06:47
holycow-_-06:47
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defendguinhmmm probably because it was built without gtk support06:47
viperXMAN I HAVE SO MUCH STUFF TO LEARN!!!!!! ;)06:47
slashx1896viperx, join the club06:47
slashx1896lol06:47
viperXlol06:47
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andrew_Im having trouble with Firefox - it wont let me type in it, in the location bar or in any form elements06:48
slashx1896mustard5, whats the linux install file look like?06:48
walkingice@o@06:48
intelikeycrawl first.  then walk.06:48
andrew_Ive restarted it, same trouble06:48
holycowviperX, you know, even after one has worked in the field for years and years, one still feels that way06:48
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mustard5slashx1896, its here http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther06:48
andrew_And obviously, I can type in other apps ;P06:48
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viperXI just installed pear pc. gonna try to get that up and running...06:48
slashx1896viperx, i just started notto long ago, and  im doin good06:48
slashx1896mustard5, i got that06:48
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andrew_Anyone know what could cause that?06:48
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mustard5slashx1896, there should be a README file inside the zip06:48
slashx1896mustard5, good idea06:48
slashx1896;)06:49
slashx1896lol06:49
TopazwormHi there. Can anyone help me with some ubuntu problems? I just installed it today06:49
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ejofeeanybody know who (nicks) are more or less directly responsible for which packages are included in the ubuntu repositories?06:49
mustard5andrew_, mine does the same thing occassionally06:49
intelikey!firefox1506:49
uboturumour has it, firefox15 is see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for information on how to install Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org06:49
intelikeyandrew_ ^06:49
holycowTopazworm, just ask dude06:49
mustard5andrew_, I find opening a terminal and tapping away on the keys and then coming back to firefox sometimes works06:50
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andrew_mustard5, Ill give that a go06:50
mustard5andrew_, firefox has been nothing but trouble for me lately06:50
andrew_intelikey, does 1.5 fix that bug?06:50
TopazwormWell i think ive screwed up my firefox. I tried (badly) to install 1.5, not having a clue what i was doing and now i cant run it. Ive tried removing and unstilling but nothing!06:50
intelikeysupposed to06:50
holycowmustard5, that doesnt sound like a firefox bug, that sounds like you hosed something06:50
intelikeyi can't answer personally.06:50
slashx1896limewier is installing :D06:50
andrew_ahh, but it is/was an identified bug?06:50
mustard5holycow, well i don't know about that...I can't see how I hosed it06:51
intelikeyi don't use ff or ub.06:51
holycowmustard5, thats what everyone says06:51
intelikeyandrew_ yes methinks so06:51
coaghmmmm06:51
holycowTopazworm, be more specific please06:51
coagwhat are some fps's that i can apt-get to play?06:51
holycowwhat problems are  you having now exactly?06:51
ejofeeanybody here?06:52
holycowcoag, say what? english please06:52
coagholycow: sorry shooter type games06:52
Topazwormi downloaded a scipt which claimed it could install firefox 1.5. i ran it, errors came up. When i tried to run firefox, nothing. So i used the package manager to completely remove firefox. then i reinstalled it from my ubuntu cd. But it still doesnt run.06:52
mustard5coag, none it apt-get that I know of06:52
coagholycow: "first person shooter" though that was common knowledge :P06:52
holycownot sure, start up synaptic and go through the games in the games section06:52
rafxapt-get install call-of-duty2 -- enjoy06:52
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locomortolol rafx06:53
holycowTopazworm, you cannot use package manager to uninstall SOMETHING YOU TRIED TO INSTALL OUTSIDE THE PACKAGE MANAGER06:53
coagi fell for it!06:53
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rafxits my favorite game using ssh and ascii art06:53
slashx1896ok now that limewiere is installed, i have it ran rite now, but how do i run it in the future>06:53
Topazwormwell i know that now mate. Im totally new to linux, never used it before today06:53
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holycowTopazworm, delete all instances of firefox on your system and then instal ff once again06:53
slashx1896brb06:54
locomortois it just me or is www.ubuntuforums.org down?06:54
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holycowTopazworm, emphasis is there purely for your informational purposes, not an insult :)06:54
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ejofeeTopazworm: if you are totally new to linux, you shouldn't use ubuntu first06:54
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holycowejofee, don't be dumb, what should he use then?06:54
ejofeeTopazworm: use kubuntu first :)06:54
mettallicatlockhead, up here06:54
Topazwormkubuntu?06:54
locomorto:|06:54
locomortokubuntu can be confusing at times06:54
locomortobut so can vanila ubuntu06:55
ejofeeholycow: kubuntu, as i said06:55
locomortoSo..06:55
holycowthat is dumb, Topazworm don't listen to him, just use ubuntu for now and try other stuff later06:55
mettallicatejofee, why kubuntu06:55
coagaha!06:55
coagwell i found quake206:55
ejofeeholycow: why would you think ubuntu is better?06:55
intelikeyejofee lol06:55
locomortoWhichever you choose is cool :)06:55
slashx1896nvm back06:55
slashx1896SO how do i run limewire in the future?06:55
ejofeemettallicat: usually kde impresses the windows newcomer06:55
mustard5coag, you need to own the quake2 CD to use that06:55
locomortoOk, can anyone goto www.ubuntuforums.org?06:55
holycowejofee, you are confusing him, and not offering any usefull information just to convince someone to use your fav desktop06:55
mustard5coag, it requires files from the CD06:55
TopazwormI have no clue how to use linux. Ivew been used to windows. So i thought i need firefox 1.5 i downloaded it from the website and tried to install. I iddnt know i am supposed to use the package manager.06:55
Hobbseelocomorto: yep06:55
Drakocan anyone tell me how to do widescreen tv-out?06:55
slashx1896i just exited out of terminal and limewire exited o.O06:55
holycowTopazworm, won't gain a single thing from using kde06:55
mettallicatejofee, KDE sucks hard and most of my students like more gnome06:55
holycowhe just wants to learn06:56
coagmustard5: it's open source06:56
ejofeeholycow: i agree06:56
locomortoHobbsee: it works for you?06:56
Hobbseelocomorto: yes06:56
locomorto:/06:56
syntaxerror64locomorto, it's www.ubuntuforums.org06:56
holycowTopazworm, it's okay, it's free you can screw it up and start over if you need to :)06:56
mettallicatif we want to learn gnome is tha best06:56
intelikeyejofee ubuntu is ubuntu  whether it has kde gnome xfce fluxbox what ever or no gui at all......   hehhe06:56
locomortosyntaxerror64: ah there the same :)06:56
holycowTopazworm, if you want to browse, why not install another browser in the man time while you figure this out06:56
Topazwormi guess. so how do i fix this problem? bearing in mind, ive tried uninstalling it already06:56
syntaxerror64locomorto, i am reading some HOWTO files there right now and it seems to be working fine06:56
slashx1896mustard5, how come when i close terminal limewiere closes?06:56
holycowTopazworm, try installing epiphany-browser, its pretty good06:57
mustard5slashx1896, because you ran it from terminal?06:57
mettallicatwell time to get some sleep _D06:57
syntaxerror64locomorto, yes i'm sorry i read it wrong i thought you put ".com"06:57
Topazwormwhats the command for that one06:57
slashx1896o.o thats what the readme said06:57
slashx1896how do i run it otherwise06:57
holycowTopazworm, install something else first so you can google up an answer and the related skills you will need to fix it06:57
holycowTopazworm, forget commands for now06:57
syntaxerror64can't you just go to synpatic package manager, remove firefox 1.0.7 and then just reinstall it06:57
ejofeeintelikey: indeed. that's the very reason why i tried it as a joke. however, now i understand that i might have created some confusion.06:57
holycowTopazworm, open up synaptic from system / admin /synaptic06:57
holycowuse that for now and make your life easy06:57
holycowyou can fix firefox later06:58
slashx1896nvm06:58
coaghow do you uninstall something you installed through apt?06:58
mustard5slashx1896, you worked it out?06:58
Topazwormok06:58
Hobbseecoag: sudo apt-get remove packagename06:58
holycowcoag, you can uninstall it via synaptic if you want06:58
holycowor what Hobbsee said06:58
intelikeycoag with apt06:58
coagholycow: command line takes less time :P06:58
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Topazwormk installing now06:58
holycowTopazworm, use synaptic to explore the software, it will keep you safe for the first bit06:59
slashx1896i just ran the runlime.sh file, then hit run06:59
Topazwormok well i need help with one more thing. if you dont mind06:59
holycowTopazworm, after a while you can add repositories to synaptic to expand the total amount of software available via synaptic to about 16 00006:59
holycowTopazworm, when you don't find something in a repo, then start exploring command line bit by bit :)06:59
holycowhopefully you find that approach helpfull07:00
mustard5slashx1896, you could add it to you menu using the menu editor in breezy07:00
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TopazwormWell at the moment i need help accesses my 2nd physical ntfs drive. I want to play my mp3's07:00
slashx1896wat menu editor?  llol07:00
intelikey!ntfs07:00
ubotu[ntfs]  the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions07:00
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holycowTopazworm, you will need to edit your /etc/fstab file for that, however, why not pull it out and put it in a usb cradle?  it will automatically have a shortcut created to it on your desktop07:00
Topazwormusb cradle? i dont have one of those07:01
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holycowokay then what you will need to google is the following:07:01
ejofee"<locomorto> kubuntu can be confusing at times" -- in which way?07:01
holycowa) fdisk -l07:01
holycowb) /etc/fstab07:01
mustard5slashx1896, look in Applications>>System tools if you are on breezy07:01
holycowc) how to mount ntfs partition in linux07:01
locomortoejofee: heaps of options07:01
holycowlots of info that07:02
slashx1896kk07:02
locomortoejofee: I'm not saying gnome has it right either07:02
intelikeyor look at the link ubotu said ^07:02
Topazwormill have a lookie..07:02
holycowd) make sure to add the word 'breezy' in your searches, you will get more hits on wiki.ubuntulinux.org07:02
ejofeelocomorto: and what is vanilla ubuntu? (i am a newbye to (k)ubuntu myself)07:02
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locomortoejofee: Its just that sometimes they get a bit excessive07:02
locomortoejofee: ubuntu without anything else installed (eg kde)07:02
holycowkde is for power user, they dump everything up front for you, it completely overwhelms the user07:02
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holycowit is NOT the right way to intro most users, only those with highly technically oriented minds07:03
ejofeelocomorto: i thought every ubuntu was without kde...07:03
bcldoes anyone have a solution for the transcode libgcc1 conflict issue?07:03
locomortoejofee: ya, but you can install it07:03
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locomortovanilla means plain07:03
locomortolike nothing added on07:03
holycowmake it simple for newbs, give them synaptic, and a few commands for a while and let them muck about07:03
intelikeyty holycow i'm flattered.07:03
ejofeelocomorto: oh, the vanilla refuses to install kde?!07:03
locomortono07:03
locomorto:|07:03
rafxubuntu = gnome, kubuntu = kde07:04
ejofeelocomorto: then i still don't understand the differences between ubuntu and vanilla.07:04
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locomortolol07:04
locomortook07:04
intelikeykde is the only desktop that makes linux work.  gnome lets it idle too much.07:04
chaumurkynirc rocks!!07:04
rafxand then there's Ubuntu for Servers07:04
locomorto* vanilla = * without anything else added on/installed/tweaked etc07:04
ejofeeintelikey: i bet that is an irony :P07:05
intelikeykde = right click everything.07:05
rafxlike MS Windows?07:05
intelikeyejofee in part maybe.....07:05
ejofeelocomorto: oh, i see... but who would want something like vanilla?07:05
TopazwormIm fed up with this07:05
ejofeeTopazworm: with what?07:05
locomortoejofee: I was using it as a basis of comparison07:06
ejofeelocomorto: oh, ok07:06
TopazwormIt shouldnt be god damn rocket science to get ONE hard drive to work. Ive tried scripts and codes and nothing!07:06
intelikey!start a desktop war07:06
ubotublackbox is much better than xfce!07:06
holycowTopazworm, it's not, the automatic code for mounting hd's on your ide chain is simply not there as of today07:06
oxezif I decide to use openbox3 as my window manager in gnome, will the right click on the desktop will bring me the current thing, with 'Change background, create folder etc..' or the ob3 menu?07:06
chaumurkyother bots are better than ......07:06
intelikeyhmmm i said07:06
intelikey!start a desktop war07:06
ejofeeubotu: right, but icewm is better than both :P07:07
ubotuejofee: what are you talking about?07:07
intelikeylol07:07
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holycowTopazworm, a: wait for next release b: add a line in /etc/fstab its simple and a skill you should have c: get a usb cradle d: and well okay use windows or mac if you like07:07
chaumurkyi like ncurses07:07
TopazwormFirefox is knackered, i cant access my ntfs drive for my files, and my 2 partitioned drives i cant access because it tells me "You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "hdb5"." ARGH07:07
holycowa) you hosed your own firefox install07:07
mustard5Topazworm, there is a script that can do the mounting for you and make the fstab entries07:07
holycowb) you are the one that doesn't want to learn how to mount drives07:08
rafxi like icewm too. haven't bothered with gnome or kde yet.  most of my work is in ssh clients anyway so it doesn't matter07:08
holycowwhat can i tell you? you can't expect to use a tool and not actually learn new skills07:08
mustard5holycow, I don't think your being helpful07:08
ejofeerafx: yeah, i very much like icewm / dfm combination07:08
chaumurkyhey, should I turn 'unmaskirq' on for my DVD burner in hdparm.conf ??07:08
TopazwormMates its 2005/06, i souldnt have to type lines of code in to get my drive to work07:08
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chaumurkyis it safe?07:08
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holycowTopazworm, i told you your options, being that this is open source and you didn't pay a dime for 16 000 applications at your hands with the click of a mouse ...07:09
holycow... the general expectation is that one either contributes the missing piece or waits until someone does07:09
holycow*cough*07:09
chaumurky!hdparm07:09
ejofeeTopazworm: you mean the only problem is you don't want to mount drives?07:09
ubotuchaumurky: Wish i knew07:09
chaumurkybugger07:09
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chaumurkyahem... bottoms07:09
mustard5chaumurky, you trying to set up dma?07:09
TopazwormNot the only problem. Its not like i dont want to, it just wont.07:10
chaumurkyno07:10
ejofeeTopazworm: what does it say?07:10
chaumurkyi want to know if it's a good idea to turn on 'unmaskirq' for my dvd burner07:10
mustard5Topazworm, if you want to come to a quieter chat room I can show you how to mount your ntfs drives07:10
TopazwormI tried running a script and it doesnt find my ntfs drive07:10
Topazwormalright mate07:10
mustard5Topazworm, join #kubuntu-offtopic if you want help07:10
holycowyou don't run a script to mount a drive07:10
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Hobbseethere is a script that you can holycow07:11
chaumurkyapparently: "Enabling unmasking lets Linux unmask other interrupts while handling a disk interrupt, allowing your system to do other similar tasks at the same time and should improve overall system response time."07:12
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holycowHobbsee, *nod* i'm simply not convinced that people who get everything for free should refuse to google and learn new things07:13
Hobbseewell, true, maybe - point them to ubuntu wiki then - there's heaps of stuff there that is known to be correct07:13
chaumurky!unmaskirq07:14
ubotuchaumurky: I don't know07:14
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holycowHobbsee, it's not so much as that even, it is the insinuation that somethign that is created by volunteers must somehow live up to their expectations07:16
holycowwithout them putting even in a bit of effort with a search engine07:17
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Madpilothow do I get k3b to stop putting that irritating little blue progress box on top of everything?07:22
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holycowMadpilot, a non answer might be to suggest using gnome baker ... not sure if kde gives you that granular control over apps07:22
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Madpilotholycow: gnomebaker only burns coasters for me :|07:23
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Madpilotk3b burns good discs, but it's got some really dumb defaults07:23
holycowi figured you had a reson for using that, not sure gnome baker works for me, although i have mostly just used nautilus as a frontend for that07:24
Stampertjecan anyone help me ? i've just installed ubuntu for the first time and can't manage to set res. higher then 640x480 :(07:24
holycowStampertje, ubuntu does have an app for checking monitor resolution capabilities but it still fails sometimes ...07:24
MadpilotI'm burning audio CDs, and Serpentine seems to produce coasters about 50% of the time; so far k3b has been good, but slower than Serpentine...07:24
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monkeyfacehi07:25
Stampertjei've tried that holycow07:25
holycow... that means you will haveto add yoru monitors horizontal and vertical refresh rates in /etc/X11/xorg.conf file07:25
holycowi know i wasn't finished07:25
monkeyfacei was wondering how would i update ubuntu07:25
Stampertjebut it doesn't allow me to turn it on higher07:25
Stampertjeah right07:25
Stampertje:)07:25
monkeyfacebecause i have horay hedge hog07:25
Madpilot!upgrade07:25
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade07:25
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Madpilotmonkeyface: see ubotu ^^^07:25
monkeyfacety07:25
Stampertjewell i thought it was because of my vid card since it sux :D07:26
Stampertjenvidia riva tnt207:26
holycowyou will haveto google up your model to find the refresh rates (unless they are on the back) buty then all you need to do is put them in xorg.conf and logout and log back in to restart x (or do ctrl / alt / backspace)07:26
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holycowStampertje, no, even the cheapest vid card can do 1600x120007:26
Stampertjenah this one can't07:26
Stampertjewell maybe07:26
Stampertjeit didn't on windows07:27
Stampertje:p07:27
kestasnot all vid cards can do high resolutions07:27
holycowi bet it can, if you put it on a monitor that supports that res07:27
Stampertjeyes ofcourse07:27
Stampertjebut not with my compaq presario monitor which i ripped from an old pc :p07:27
holycowtherein lies your answer07:27
oxezhow would I remove borders for a specific app on gnome?07:27
Stampertjehehe ;)07:27
kestasthis also isnt about refresh rates07:28
holycowoxez, you can't unless the app is coded to allow for that07:28
kestasjust entering in the res you want into xorg.conf for your depth will probably do07:28
Stampertjeprobably07:28
Stampertje:)07:28
holycowStampertje, don't listen to kestas07:28
holycowit IS ABOUT REFRESH RATES07:28
oxezholycow: do you know a terminal that would allow me? I'm thinking of aterm/eterm etc07:28
kestasunless its a driver problem07:28
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Stampertjeno doesn't matter much i think07:28
holycowrefresh rates are what give you the resolution space of a monitor spec07:28
Stampertjei don't think it can go higher then 60hz07:29
Stampertje:D07:29
monkeyfacethanks07:29
holycowoxez, nothing rings a bell i'm afraid07:29
Stampertjehmm07:29
FujitsuRefresh rates do not control resolution!07:29
Stampertjemaybe you know this aswell..07:29
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oxezholycow: I know that with fluxbox I was able to do that easily, but I'd like to stick with metacity, I just like it :/07:30
holycowrefresh rates control possible resolution space07:30
FujitsuResolution dictates certain refresh rates07:30
andrew_I just followed that wiki guide to installing firefox 1.5 for ubuntu, now Im getting a nasty error : /opt/firefox/firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory07:30
Stampertjei need an ftp client that can support fxp transfers07:30
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Stampertjebut not command line07:30
Fujitsuholycow, what is your definition of 'resolution space'07:30
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Fujitsuandrew_: install the package libstdc++507:30
paulgroovyhi, I'm new and need some help07:30
Fujitsuandrew_, it says that you need it at the top of the wiki.07:30
FujitsuWhat, paulgroovy?07:30
paulgroovyhi fujitsu07:30
FujitsuHi paulgroovy.07:31
holycowpaulgroovy, just ask07:31
andrew_ahh, missed that07:31
andrew_Thanks Fuji07:31
kestasStampertje, try sudo sed -i -b .bak /etc/X11/xorg.conf -e 's/Modes\t"/Modes\t"1024x768"\t"/'07:31
paulgroovyI need help with a wireless 802.11 wireless internet card on my laptop07:31
Stampertjei don't want that mode07:31
Stampertjebut i'll change07:31
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Stampertjethanks kestas07:31
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holycowpaulgroovy, okay, what kind do you have, what chipset does it have07:31
Fujitsupaulgroovy, what kind?07:31
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paulgroovyok, i have a dlink airplusxtreme G10807:32
paulgroovydwl-g65007:32
paulgroovyI was told i should have the orinico chipset, but how can i tell if the card has that?07:33
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holycowi'm looking for a page on that, there was a really good wiki page on supported cards and techniques you need for resolving issues07:33
andrew_Gah! Still having the same problem I had with 1.0707:33
holycowhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards?highlight=%28card%29%7C%28wireless%29%7C%28support%2907:33
andrew_Firefox doesnt respond to keystrokes, in the address bar, or in any form elements07:34
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andrew_Anyone know anything about this problem?07:35
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holycowi've only seen that problem on pages where flash steals mouse focus07:35
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holycowandrew_, just out of curiosity, have you tried downloading 1.5 tar.gz, extracting to a temp dir and running binary directly from that? i'm curious if that has the same issue07:36
paulgroovyok, I seem to have the intel chipset07:36
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mcjerryi upgraded to dapper and now have problems with twinhan dvb card.....can anyone help?????07:36
andrew_holycow,  nope, Ill give it a go tho07:36
Stampertjeis there some way to get out of gnome and see only a shell or smth without rebooting ?07:36
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holycowctrl / alt / f1 would be one way Stampertje07:37
Stampertjeoki thanks :)07:37
Stampertjebbl to try all the things out07:37
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mcjerryafter upgrading to dapper, my twinhan dvb-s card does not work,,,,after upgrade, it still worked with previous kernel.....what do i need to do07:40
holycowmcjerry, submit a bug, talk with devs about tracking it down.  DapperDrake is a work in progress, generally helping out with a debian type of distro results in waiting a week or two, updating and problem going away magically07:41
cafuegostop upgrading when there is no need to.07:41
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cafuegoSee also rule #1.07:41
mcjerryholycow, how submit a bug?07:41
Madpilotmcjerry: www.launchpad.net/malone/07:42
holycowhttp://bugzilla.ubuntulinux.org/07:42
Madpilothttps://launchpad.net/malone/distros/ubuntu actually07:42
ajmitchMadpilot: preferably bugzilla for now07:42
CrimsonKingif i was missing a script that should be in init.d (imapd, specifically) whats my best way of hunting down the missing script?07:42
bclCrimsonKing, locate imapd07:43
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Madpilotajmitch: OK, I thought everything was switching to lauchpad/malone?07:43
ajmitchMadpilot: eventually.. :)07:43
holycowwhat is this launchpad nonsense?07:43
cafuegoWell well, why does that gentleman have the same KeyID as me?07:43
ajmitchholycow: nonsense?07:43
CrimsonKingbcl: yea i've got the bin, but not the init script for it07:43
holycowsince when is ubuntu using random urls for things like bug trackers?07:44
CrimsonKingthe package is installed, got the configs too, but no init.d07:44
andrew_holycow, same issue run straight from the bin07:44
bclCrimsonKing, may be in /usr/share/doc/imapd or similar07:44
ajmitchholycow: because canonical develops launchpad?07:44
Madpilotholycow: it's not...07:44
holycowajmitch, oh launchpad is that project ... odd.  so what does bugzilla serve then?07:44
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ajmitchholycow: bugzilla is what we use until malone is ready - malone is designed to be multiple distro, upstream, etc07:45
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holycowajmitch, ah, so how is the transition being handled, everyune is being asked to use malone or ... ?07:45
ajmitchholycow: when malone is ready07:45
CrimsonKingbcl: no really dude, its not just missplaced, its not on the computer07:45
ajmitchholycow: malone has been in use for quite awhile for universe07:46
holycowajmitch, so bugzilla is the official one then?  why are you guys suggesting the use of malone then?07:46
CrimsonKingi will look up how to peak inside of a .deb and get a list of installed files07:46
ajmitchholycow: I just said that bugzilla was preferred. I didn't suggest the use of malone for filing bugs in main07:46
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holycowandrew_, that makes no sense ... perhaps an extension is causing that somewhere?  the best i think i can do is recommend removing all extensions, and perhaps moving your .mozilla dir somewhere else just to make sure ?07:47
Madpilotajmitch: that's the current split, then? Malone for Universe, bugzilla.u.c for main?07:47
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B-166_ER-Xhow do i list the online users ?07:47
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CrimsonKingahh, i might just have cyrus-imapd installed when i'm supposed to have cyrus21-imapd....07:47
holycowajmitch, *nod* i'm curious, nothing worse than giving people wrong info07:47
XenguyB-166_ER-X: w07:47
holycowill stick to recommending bugzilla then until otherwise requested to do so07:47
ajmitchMadpilot: generally, that's how it is.. some other stuff is using malone07:47
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cedrichi! id like to listen to .mpg videos.. but i hate wincodec what should i do then07:47
CrimsonKingthats -uh- intuitive07:47
Xenguywho07:48
holycowCrimsonKing, the problem with "intuitive" is that it is relative07:48
B-166_ER-Xofftopic ?07:48
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andrew_Restarted gnome and its all good again07:49
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andrew_Hope this doesnt happen often :/07:49
holycow:) simple07:49
XenguyStability is assumed :-)07:49
CrimsonKingholycow: yea i dig that, but you it still sucks when you spend a big chunk of time looking for something to find out the solution is as simple as this :}07:49
johnwanyone know good fastcgi tutorials?07:50
nekostardam u ubuntu and your crappy dual audio support07:50
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holycowCrimsonKing, indeed :) the terrible thing is that as one gets more knowledgeable about a particular area, you forget that for others it is not obvious at all07:50
chris86wmhey guys, i am trying to share a folder from my windows computer with ubuntu. i have both of them hooked up through a router, but ubuntu doesnt seem to see the windows computer on the network. is there something special that needs to be done in order to view the shared windows folder?07:50
Xenguythe community can be a big help :-)07:50
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qt2err, someone i'm trying to allow remote desktop access to me is trying to get a conection, but cant...07:51
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qt2can someone ghere try and vnc me and see if they get a password prompt? :o07:51
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chris86wmany ideas guys, i can ping the windows computer from ubuntu....07:52
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holycowchris86wm, by default ubuntu should be able to see all windows machines on a network, first question to ask is do you have something like firestarter firewall (iptables frontend) on ubuntu, or a firewall of some sort on the windows box preventing broadcasting on the network?07:52
Stampertjekestas i don't know what happened but i didn't do anything and now i can set resolution and hertz lol07:52
Stampertjeusing the program07:52
Stampertjemaybe because i installed nvidia-glx07:53
chris86wmholycow> no07:53
cedrichi! id like to listen to .mpg videos.. but i hate wincodec what should i do then07:53
Stampertjeand i didn't reboot for it07:53
Stampertjebut now i did07:53
Stampertjeso next question.. anyone know where i can set hosts manually like in windows hosts file ?07:53
chris86wmholycow> i turned the firewall on the windows box off, and i do not have firestarter installed on my ubuntu box07:54
chris86wm(i did have firestarter on here last week but i removed it after a few minutes)07:54
holycow*hmmm* generally it takes a little bit for samba to pick up windows machines on a network ... unfortunately my sambafu sucks without my reference book :/07:55
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holycowi've never really seen ubuntu not be able to browse a windows network even with a domain tho ... usually it has been someone blocking network broadcasting with a firewall07:55
chris86wmwell whats weird is that when i go to the network places, i see a box that says "you must log in to access UBUNTU"07:56
chris86wm(this is from the ubuntu box)07:56
holycowchris86wm, that sounds like something is not installed07:56
chris86wmi have no passwords set on the network07:56
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holycowis this a fresh install of ubuntu?07:56
chris86wmyes, about a week old07:56
holycowohhh you are browsing from windows to ubuntu?07:56
chris86wmno ubuntu to windows07:56
chris86wmboth are fresh installs07:57
holycowyour ubuntu box sees the windows box then?07:57
chris86wmno07:57
holycow i see a box that says "you must log in to access UBUNTU"  <-- i'm not sure what that means, you get that when you click on what exactly?07:57
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chris86wmi go to...07:58
chris86wmPlaces ----->Network Servers07:58
chris86wmthen it pops up07:58
holycowjust for reference, that box shouldn't come up at all07:58
chris86wmyeah i know lol07:59
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holycow:)07:59
chris86wmwhy would i need the password for the UBUNTU box that i am on right now!!??07:59
Stampertjecan't i install wine on this ?07:59
Stampertjeor is that only for kde07:59
Stampertjeit's not in package list07:59
Stampertje:/07:59
chris86wmwine is for gnome too07:59
holycowchris86wm, that sounds like a mistake, have you tried reinstalling samba or smbclient perhaps?  i have never heard of this, nothing on google about this?08:00
Stampertjeok then i'll just have to do manual dl08:00
chris86wmlet me try that08:00
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holycowchris86wm, as another side note, there are other bugs in the samba/nautilus/keymanager components, i occasionally get a request to log in to a domain when one isn't required so ...08:00
dennis999Anybody know how to change the calender layout08:01
holycowperhaps this is symptomatic of overal 'unclean' implementation at this point08:01
dennis999?08:01
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holycowStampertje, what are you downloading manually? wine?08:01
holycowwhy?08:01
holycowits in the repos dude :)08:01
B-166_ER-Xhelp..... : when i start ubuntu, i have a error message 'cant find desktop folder, yo uhave to create it or make permission so Nautilus can acess it'08:01
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chris86wmyeah use synaptic08:01
holycowdennis999, what do you mean change calendar layout?08:01
B-166_ER-Xno desktop folder =  something bad08:02
holycowB-166_ER-X, not really08:02
chris86wmwell i reinstalled that, and now the authentication box doesnt come up but i cant see the windows box08:02
dennis999I want Sunday to be first08:02
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holycowB-166_ER-X, request to change your nick, it's too odd to type in even with tab completion :)08:02
holycowB-166_ER-X, is that a fresh install?08:02
B-166_ER-Xalways add this nick but..08:02
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holycowb166erx, :) easier08:03
b166erxholycow,  well, like a week, and it was working right a few hours ago08:03
chris86wmman this is gonna suck if i cant get my network to pick up08:03
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holycowb166erx, it sounds like either permissions are wrong or something else is borked, if all you are is missing a home dir thats an easy fix08:03
holycowb166erx, that sounds like you were mucking about and changed permissions on home dir, i did the same actually :) heh08:04
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holycowb166erx, so, how far can you get on boot, just login screen?08:04
b166erxwell, i cant recall doing this08:04
b166erxholycow,  i actually, am now on my ubuntu, i have acess to the top menus ...but hte desktop is plain and i cant acess File system, of home dir..ect..08:05
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freelovehow do i change the usplash??08:05
holycowdennis999, i don't see anythign about calendar that would suggest that you can configure it that way, :/08:05
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holycowb166erx, ah shoot, i'm sure it can be fixed but it also is a wee bit delicate situation08:06
dennis999I couldn't either that's why I  am here, thanks anyway.08:06
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b166erxhm08:06
holycowit's not soemthign i can really run you through at 11 pm at nigth dude, you may permanently loose access to your account if i miss a step :/08:06
b166erxa DIR in terminal list the home dir and desktop08:06
b166erxalthough listing it, i cannot access it08:07
holycowb166erx, hang around perhaps someone who can see straight can help :) there are a few things one should do to make sure you don't lock your self out so it's best not to have me walk you through08:07
holycowit08:07
b166erxok..then...can someone help ?08:08
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b166erxdnag08:08
b166erxits 2:00 am here ;P08:09
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N6REJhow can I add this url to the sources list?  It doesn't like it... http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu/dists/dapper/08:11
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ejofeehow can i change the menu style automatically. aren't there some preestablished menu themes?08:12
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holycowwhat do you mean "menu themes"08:13
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bsdirlquestion: can you get xubuntu with ship-it?08:14
chris86wmaghh!08:14
tonyyarussoN6REJ: I'm not sure, but you might need to separate dapper/ as the section?08:14
chris86wmthis stinks08:14
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Madpilotbsdirl: no, only Ubuntu08:15
bsdirlheh i was wondering why the CDs I got had gnome08:15
bsdirlty :] 08:15
StampertjeN6REJ, don't you need to put ftp:// in front of it ?08:15
N6REJtonyyarusso: I got some of the firefox amd64.deb files for ubuntu from here ... http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu/pool/main/ the problem is they need other files too.08:15
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bsdirlpeace08:16
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chris86wmno more ideas on the networking problem guys? i think i am stumped08:17
N6REJwhats your network problem chris86wm ?08:17
StampertjeN6REJ, why not try an ftp client instead of firefox ?08:17
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tonyyarussoN6REJ: Did you try enabling multiverse, universe, and restricted first?08:17
N6REJStampertje: no, I'm trying to upgrade ff to 1.5 on the amd64 arch.08:17
chris86wmi will repaste it08:17
N6REJtony for breezy yeah.08:17
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chris86wmi am trying to share a folder from my windows computer with ubuntu. i have both of them hooked up through a router, but ubuntu doesnt seem to see the windows computer on the network. is there something special that needs to be done in order to view the shared windows folder?08:17
b166erxCan someone help me here please ?      Nautilus tells me that DEsktop doesnt existe or that there is wrong permissions08:18
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chris86wmwhen i go to places-----> network servers i window pops up saying "You must log in to access UBUNTU"08:18
N6REJchris86wm: yeah, you need samba AND they have to belong to the same samba domain08:18
chris86wmi have sambe and they are on the same domain08:18
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chris86wm*samba08:18
N6REJchris86wm: then your samba config is bad.08:19
freelovehow do i change the usplash??08:19
chris86wmthe windows box sees the ubuntu one but the ubuntu one doesnt see the windows08:19
chris86wmits a fresh install of ubuntu though......:(08:19
N6REJchris86wm: let me think.08:19
Stampertjewindows does see the linux box ? lol i think that's kinda funny08:19
tonyyarussoN6REJ: It looks like you should just be able to add the sections (main, etc.) after the line you put earlier.08:19
Stampertje:D08:19
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N6REJtonyyarusso: yeah, thats what I thought too!08:20
dbernar1Hi, can anyone help me set my locale up?08:20
tonyyarussoN6REJ: Have you looked at http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu/dists/dapper/?08:20
dbernar1I am getting an error with apt, and other programs.08:20
chris86wmi had this working in hoary08:20
N6REJtonyyarusso:  that might help... let me try.08:20
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paulgroovyHi, I'm back and need some help finding the driver for my dlink dwl-g650 wifi card, and then downloading it.08:21
Stampertjewhere the hell can i make everything english again. this dutch mindless translation is kinda freaking me out08:21
b166erxhow can i show the permissions on a dir ? and what should be the permissions on Desktop ?08:22
difektachris86wm like keymap stuff?08:22
b166erxhow can i list the current permissions ?08:22
Wookiewig, so your current date, and the date is current thing, with 'change background, create folder etc..' or the sudo perl08:22
N6REJtonyyarusso: Failed to fetch http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu/dists/dapper/dists/main/restricted/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404 Not Found [IP: 64.50.236.52 80] 08:22
Wookieqt2: a great for now i'm stuck trying to fetch major bug with c libraries08:22
N6REJb166erx: in terminal ls -la08:22
Wookiest^anger^19m: if you really bother me, id 2) ls -ld /media/public08:22
chris86wmdifekta: what do you mean keymap stuff?08:23
Wookiein c i can't define the keymap for xorg08:23
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b166erx-rw-r--r--   1 oli  oli   424895 2005-12-12 00:36 Desktop08:23
b166erx , does that looks normal ?08:23
Wookie-rw-r--r-- 1 root08:23
Wookiedoes that the normal wallpaper.08:23
rafxb166erx: also be sure to read this, it will answer many of your questions before you ask:  http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html08:23
Wookienormally i just understanding this, it screws up08:23
weissiis it possible to install ubuntu/kubuntu via a net installer like debian (put 2 floppies in and get the rest via apt get over the net) ?08:25
Wookiephantomcircuit-a: irc.undernet.org #teensex hth hand :) this is the root should do that for about 5 different floppies ten years ago than ruby, etc, see http://wiki.debian.net/?debianamd64faq08:25
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tonyyarussoN6REJ: Remove the /dists after /dapper, and /restricted is a separate section, not part of /main.08:25
Wookien6rej: it looks like button displays the warning failed08:25
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Wookiei love the description that you want other side reading it now08:26
N6REJtonyyarusso:  so they should be seperate entrys?08:26
Wookieit's all treated as seperate files, although you might get08:26
tonyyarussoN6REJ: Correct.08:27
Wookien6rej: i'm not sure, but it is basically what is hosed something08:27
N6REJk08:27
Wookieacetech: k joined the burn button?08:27
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Wookiereisio08:27
reisioheh08:27
Wookierafx, heh08:27
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reisiono ops? :p08:28
Wookieit both ways :p08:28
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Wookiedabar08:28
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Wookiebig!08:28
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Wookieheatxsink_08:28
Xenguy!network-install08:28
ubotunetwork-install is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot?action=show&redirect=NetbootInstall08:28
Wookielike, totally, a way to store a gui frontend08:28
dabaRWookie: heh, I just joined the channel, and you said my name...08:28
Wookiei've got some really care about being very accurate this is, i output file name..08:28
Xenguyspeak of the devil ;-)08:29
Wookiewho can speak freakin' roman, svizzero08:29
dabaRWookie: I fixed my locale issue.08:29
Wookiebrend: there's unicode locale really breaks this time you didnt really checked08:29
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Wookiezh08:29
N6REJAnd I think I have to tell it its source not binary08:29
Wookiemathias64, so where would recommend a binary distro08:29
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Wookiei have -pipe in your network problem chris86wm08:29
chris86wmsry i just got back in the room08:30
Wookieanything goes type chat room08:30
chris86wmi missed what ya said08:30
Wookiei've already reboote.d i missed voicing you had a generic query example i have instaled and want to put that livecd totally worked!08:30
chris86wmlol08:30
Wookieball: only the faq in one of them is a lot more money lol08:30
dabaRWookie: would you like a kick ban, or are you really bad in english?08:30
Wookiespider: a) cycle b) i kick ass08:30
chris86wmWookie: would you mind repeating yourself?08:30
Wookiemy dad wants help yourself to c and by repeating what you've plenty to robotics enthusiasts and such file or howto08:30
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weissiubotu: oh, I'm searching for a simple netinst, not that freaky! My setup is the following: harware-router<-->target_machine. I have no cd burner (and no time to order a cd)08:31
Wookiemephis1987, your software is the following:08:31
ubotuweissi: I think you lost me on that one08:31
Wookieyeah i lost08:31
N6REJtonyyarusso: no luck so far still trying.08:31
Wookietonyyarusso: thanks..08:31
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dabaRweissi: he is a bot.08:31
Wookiedpkg pours a bag of times just have wired their bot only spit out the p4 3.06 system?08:31
chris86wmomg, its working08:31
weissioops ;-)08:31
Wookiethe e doesnt work, i might be working in topic answering that08:31
Wookieoh, oops08:31
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bob2dabaR: ?08:32
Wookie'pop out' ?08:32
kemikHAL is it you?!08:32
Wookiefoampeace, mount -o loop -t nat -a | grep hal process?08:32
dabaRbob2: help yourself to some of this.08:32
Wookielimewier is hosted by yourself and find certain things very quickly get screen fulls of earth :)08:32
kemikwhy not just kick it ?08:32
Wookiekick08:32
bob2kick what?08:32
Wookiekick doesn't generate random poles they buy the bottom of that extends jframe the 400 | regex substitution, so the same as the windows version of daemon-tools or alcohol 120%08:32
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chris86wmi just had to leave the user name blank when i logged in08:33
Wookieyou didn't have to, i didn't feel like an entirely different than an errormessage when you logged into a ballpark08:33
weissiso, is there no way to boot the ubuntu-installer via 1..n (n<5 if possible) floppies and get the rest via net?08:33
Wookiefloppies on cd-s, while to /usr/x11/include?08:33
chris86wmLMAO08:33
Wookielmao08:33
N6REJchris86wm: weird08:33
Wookiechris86wm: let me think it xorg 7.0rc i'm getting worried then modular x it probably a good idea :s08:33
Madpilotbob2: kick the Wookie?08:33
Wookiei have a part, quit, or kick08:33
chris86wmN6REJ: thanks for the help08:33
Wookien6rej: have you are asking people to access ubuntu08:33
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N6REJbob, how can I add the dapper repository's to my sources.list?08:34
Wookiebob2, well bob, its longer :)08:34
bob2N6REJ: don't08:34
Wookien6rej: it looks like best: http://www.shellshark.net/images/buscard1.png08:34
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kemikWookie:  HAL  ?08:34
Wookiemarcion, -a | grep hal process?08:34
dabaRWookie: check it out.08:34
Wookielike how can i check the know about mysql 3.23, is included08:34
bob2Wookie: anyway, you don't appear to be talking about ubuntu, so pease come back on-topic or go08:34
Wookiejust wanted the whole joy of the card won't appear in the network adapter?08:34
Razor-XWookie: HAL ?08:35
Wookieand our ninja friends showing no hal process?08:35
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dabaRWookie: har har08:35
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Wookiechaumurky i'm just so i can do it08:35
kemikWookie:  turing test08:35
Wookietheres a test a method of writing to the string null, you're much about upnp but trouble for me lately08:35
bob2Wookie: yea or nay?08:35
Wookieyay or nay?08:35
MyrttiWookie: null?08:35
dabaRWookie: is that fast typing?08:36
Wookieactually, to others have a fast about a module08:36
N6REJbob2: I've got myself into a pickle... I was trying to install firefox 1.5 and I found some ubuntu .debs on ftp.osuosl.org and now I've got about 10 packages that need more dependencies, and they conflicting with breezy because they are newer then breezy.08:36
Wookiemaybe its conflicting with sha512 to be used as crappy and write one more question: i'm using webrick locally or for sb16 or just write etch08:36
bob2N6REJ: get the hell rid of them all08:36
Wookien6rej: did you try other net08:36
Razor-XWookie: who are you?08:36
Wookiewhy can't you?08:36
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Razor-XWookie: why can't you?08:36
Wookiegotta go, anyway, so i did i, but it for you?08:36
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N6REJbob2: how can I do that without breaking anything?08:36
bob2N6REJ: dpkg -P --force-depends all of them08:37
N6REJok.08:37
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dabaRN6REJ: like me, I had some down time off the web today cause of playing with external debs.08:37
N6REJlet me make notes, cause synaptic wants to uninstall about half of breezy to fix it.08:37
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qt2Wookie, hm?08:38
N6REJall I wanted to do was upgrade to FF1.5 sheeesh.08:38
bob2you won't be using synaptic for this08:38
dabaRwell, happens. ya, write it down, so you can reinstall what you need, that is really what got me, I did not look too well what I uninstalled when repairing.08:38
Stampertjewhere can i manually paste some webadress in synaptic ?08:38
bob2N6REJ: installing packages from dapper on breezy is a very poor way to try to do that08:38
Stampertjecan't find it anywhere08:38
bob2N6REJ: installing random .debs you find on the internet is also a bad plan08:38
dabaRStampertje: in repositories.08:38
bob2N6REJ: either get the tarball from mozilla.org or use he "backports"08:38
Stampertjewell i've installed the nl version08:38
Stampertjewhich sux08:38
bob2Stampertje: why would synaptic want a url pasted into it?08:38
qt2Wookie, what were you on about?08:38
Stampertjedeb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/08:39
Stampertjei want that08:39
Stampertjein it08:39
Stampertje;)08:39
bob2Stampertje: then put that in /etc/apt/sources.list, if you're sure it's correct08:39
bob2qt2: Wookie cannot speak in here08:39
N6REJbob2: heres, where I got the files... http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/08:39
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mettallicathow about wineX08:39
qt2Wookie, lol, why's that?08:39
Stampertjehow about it mettallicat08:39
bob2N6REJ: as above, do not install random .debs08:39
Madpilotbob2: it's too bad ops can't force-move someone to another channel ;) offtopic could do with a turing-bot08:39
bob2qt2: enough08:39
N6REJbob2: ok.08:39
qt2bob2, err... okay? o.O;08:40
tonyyarussoI think I just installed an extension in Firefox that's causing trouble, and it won't let me uninstall.08:40
mettallicatStampertje, do u have wineX deb ?08:40
N6REJbob2: can I get a list of the broken packages?08:40
bob2qt2: wookie cannot reply to you.  if you want to continue discussing with it, use /msg08:40
dabaRits annoying answers even when you do not talk to it, Madpilot08:40
mettallicati want :D08:40
bob2N6REJ: being in that dir just means that it's for some version of ubuntu, not neccessarily the one you have08:40
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qt2bob2, it's a bot?08:40
bob2mettallicat: winex is proprietary software, www.transgaming.com08:40
bob2qt2: don't know, don't care08:40
bob2Madpilot: you can set redirect bans, I think08:40
mettallicatbob2, i know :( and i cry08:41
dabaRStampertje: Settings>Repositories>Add>Custom.08:41
qt2bob2, was just wondering why it said my name, dont gotta get annoyed at me.... i'll go back to idling now. x.x;08:41
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bob2qt2: sorry, not annoyed, just trying to stop this conversation asap ;)08:41
StampertjedabaR, i found it already :)08:41
Stampertjebut everything is in dutch08:41
qt2bob2, okay, i'll drop it ^.^;08:41
Stampertjeand i can't even understand much of it08:41
chaumurkydamn walking carpet08:41
Stampertjeenglish is better08:41
dabaRya, that is why dutch people choose to talk dutch, cause english is better.08:42
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ruiwenhi how do i install apache-1.3.34 in ubuntu?08:43
bob2ruiwen: why that version in particular?08:43
chaumurkyhas anyone noticed a difference to cd/dvd performance by turning 'unmaskirq' on in hdparm.conf??08:44
ruiwenbob2: =) actually not that version exactly.. just the 1.3 version, not apache 2 that comes default08:44
bob2ruiwen: apt-cache show apache08:44
dabaRruiwen: install the apache package.08:44
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cozhello all08:46
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cozproblem with xchat08:46
cozanyone avaiable08:47
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nutterpcwhat sorta issues08:47
chaumurkyI'm on nirc - not much use coz08:47
freelovehow do i change the usplash??08:47
cozwell this is the second time this has occured08:47
bob2freelove: how much do you care?08:47
viperXHey guys, does anyone know how to download and install themes for Firefox?08:47
cozi have a clean install of breezy and when I go into xchat and put my name in08:47
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cozI get a messeag that soem"nick something or other already has that name08:48
cozUnder settings all that it says is connect or disconnect and not join channerl stc08:48
dabaRnice.08:48
chaumurky<viperX> in firefox go 'tools' -> 'themes'. then click get more themes.08:48
nutterpcthat generally means if u have connected to a server08:48
holycowcoz, try another nick?08:48
nutterpcand it says that, that someone else on that server is already using that name08:48
cozbut I havn't and the last time this happened I just uninstalled an then reinstalled xchat and it was fine08:48
dabaRfreelove: search for splash in synaptic.08:48
cozthis time it didn't work08:49
Ej25goddessHi chaumurkey im back :)08:49
cozany suggestions08:49
holycowcoz, it just means someone on the network is using your nick08:49
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cozok I will log off and try again08:49
chaumurky<coz> you may have a zombie xchat process running??08:49
N6REJbob2: OMG I went from 10 broken packages to 67 by removing them :'(08:49
chaumurkymissed him damn08:49
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tonyyarussoCan I disable all of my Firefox extensions at once?  (So I can reenable them one at a time.)08:50
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holycowtonyyarusso, no08:50
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N6REJwhew!!! all fixed now.... ty bob2!08:50
tonyyarussoholycow: Shoot.08:50
cosimono go guy this is the message I got this time -08:50
cosimo* End of /MOTD command.08:50
cosimo* Received a CTCP VERSION from freenode-connect08:50
cosimo* ubuntu :That channel doesn't exist08:50
Stampertjeall those problems in here.. damn i'm getting regrets already lol08:50
holycowshoot what? i gave you the answer08:50
tonyyarussoholycow: Any idea how to force an uninstall of one?08:51
holycowtonyyarusso, yes, remove it manually08:51
viperXOk, I'm on the Firefox theme site, but when I click on the install button of the theme that I want, nothing happens08:51
tonyyarussoholycow: How?08:51
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N6REJoh well, guess I'm stuck with ff 1.07 until 1.5 gets into repository :(08:51
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viperXanybody else experiencing this?08:51
tonyyarussoholycow: FF is installed to /opt/firefox, btw.08:52
holycowtonyyarusso, most are locatd in your .mozila firefox extensions dir08:52
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itouchedpussyare any of you able to help me get my sound working again?08:52
holycowitouchedpussy, depends on yoru question.  please ask a technical question08:53
bob2N6REJ: once they're gone "sudo apt-get -f install ubuntu-desktop" can unbreak the rest08:53
tonyyarussoholycow: I think I found them.  Now I just have to figure out which one it is!08:53
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crimsunitouchedpussy: lspci -v|grep -i audio ; amixer08:53
crimsunitouchedpussy: output to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl08:53
Stampertjebob2 he is gone already08:53
itouchedpussyholycow: well it works in games and other things, but programs like xmms will ask if my sound card is blocked by another program08:53
crimsunitouchedpussy: change xmms to use the ALSA output plugin08:54
holycowitouchedpussy, also please change your nick08:54
holycowthis is a family channel08:54
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Razor-Xthank you holycow08:54
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chaumurky<coz> ok now? you may have a zombie xchat process running??08:54
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cozOK guys this is a no go. i cannot get on as normal on this xchat I will paste the message I get when I log on normally if anyohne would be willing to look at it08:54
viperXwhat dir are ff themes stored in?08:55
cozOK how do I change that08:55
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chaumurkyme?08:55
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cozyes chaumurky  how would i foind out08:55
cozfind08:55
frank_bcan anyone tell me how can I add the time an date option in gnome's panel? (I accidentaly deleted the panel)08:55
elemenzeum, i'm the one who was just in with the inappropriate username, and i need those commands again =(08:56
chaumurkyopn the syatem monitor and check the list of processes08:56
cozfrank_ b right click on the bar add to panal08:56
elemenzeoh, nevermind08:56
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frank_bcoz, yes, but i don't see the time and date option08:56
frank_bcoz, ahhh08:56
cozwhoa hold on I will check mine08:56
frank_bcoz, forget it08:56
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frank_bcoz, it's in "clock"!08:57
elemenzeholycow: who was the other person helping me?08:57
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linuxaddictsgday all08:57
cozright08:57
frank_bcoz, I'm a moron08:57
cozme too thats why I namced myself doof08:57
frank_bhehe08:57
frank_bcoz, sorry to bother you then08:58
crimsunelemenze: lspci -v|grep -i audio ; amixer08:58
cozchaumurky what was this about  xchat thing08:58
viperXDoes anyone know what dir firefox themes are stored in?08:58
frank_bcoz, thanks for your help08:58
cozno problem08:58
elemenzecrimsun: ah, there you are XD08:58
elemenzecrimsun: http://pastebin.com/46053308:58
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chaumurkyI just thought if you had an IRC client process running in the background you may be getting the login errors - just a thought08:58
cozThis is the message I get when I try to log onto xchat normally  http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/ms6toM69.html08:59
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viperXand how do I open a .jar file?08:59
dabaRviperX: what is in it?08:59
crimsunviperX: java -jar foo.jar08:59
chaumurkyjava -j <name>.jar08:59
chaumurkyoops08:59
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chaumurkywrong platform...08:59
cozwould somone look at this and tell me what the heck isgoing on? http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/ms6toM69.html08:59
crimsunelemenze: are you using ordinary analog speaker-out?09:00
chaumurkyhang on.09:00
jmibanezok, how does one go about diagnosing why a usb thumb drive's volume isn't being detected by hal?09:00
viperXIt's a theme for Firefox. i had to download it manually because the install link isn't working for me for some reason.....09:00
elemenzecrimsun: what do you mean by that?09:00
dabaRcoz: what nickname comes up with that?09:00
pittijmibanez: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingRemovableDevices09:00
jmibanez(on one pc w/ breezy it works; on another, the volume (sda1) isn't seen by hal and doesn't show up in hal-device-manager)09:00
jmibanezpitti, ah, thanks09:00
cozNickServ09:00
pittijmibanez: then please file a bug and include the logs09:00
cozdabaR "NickServ"09:00
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topylicoz: if it's your nick, then identify it. what exactly is the problem?09:01
chaumurky./msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>09:01
crimsunelemenze: are you using the digital output (spdif connection)?09:01
dabaRcoz: you try your nickname to be nickserv? that is taken.09:01
viperXdabaR should I move the theme that I downloaded into the extensions folder for Filefox?09:01
cozOK Normally I put my name in log on and go under sserve to choose where i want ot go09:01
elemenzecrimsun: i still don't understand what you mean ><09:01
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dabaRviperX: is it a .jar file?09:01
cozNow u the only thin gunder server is connect and idssconnect09:01
coz ther is no list at all09:01
viperXYep!09:01
chaumurkystrange09:02
cozI didn't use nickserv09:02
cozit brought that up on its own09:02
chaumurkyahha09:02
dabaRcoz: what name, is it "coz"? did you ever register the coz nick?09:02
crimsunelemenze: ok, then disregard that question. In a Terminal, amixer sset 'IEC958' off09:02
cozI believe so but if not how do I do thatagain?09:02
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dabaRcoz: the nick server is telling you coz is registered, if coz is you, idenitify yourself.09:03
elemenzecrimsun: done09:03
topylicoz: you don't, you just identify yourself with your password. just like nickserv is telling you09:03
cozI am coz  but no password09:03
viperXwould it be alright to move the .jar file to the extensions folder for Firefox?09:03
chaumurky  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY09:03
dabaRcoz: and you never set up a password?09:03
coznope09:03
elemenzecrimsun: ach, brb09:03
crimsunelemenze: did you change XMMS to use the ALSA plugin?09:03
elemenzecrimsun: yes09:03
topylicoz: isn't that a bit silly?09:04
dabaRviperX: where did you get the .jar?09:04
elemenzecrimsun: i've tried all plugins (except disk writer)09:04
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elemenzecrimsun: brb09:04
cozon xchat?? It never asked for apassworkd09:04
dabaRcoz: someone took your nick, it seems.09:04
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dabaRis k and d close on the kybd? I always see that typo.09:04
cozhow do I register again?09:04
viperXFrom the Firefox themes site. The install link doesn't work when i press on it, so I downloaded it manually.09:04
dabaRpasswork, it is on opposite side of my kybd.09:04
dabaRviperX: I have no idea how that works with Firefox, I dont even use that windows program.09:05
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Vivid2005hi09:05
viperXoh...09:05
cozOK guys how do I register my nick?09:05
Vivid2005Anybody awake??09:05
qt2err, does remote desktop work if a user is not logged in? o.O;09:06
dabaRcoz: someone already did, you can not any more.09:06
chaumurky  /msg NickServ ID09:06
cozOk how do I register another nick09:06
chaumurky!register09:06
ubotuI guess register is type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))09:06
topylicoz: /msg NickServ help09:06
cozI type that here?09:06
chaumurkyyes09:06
dabaRchaumurky: look. http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/ms6toM69.html that is what coz gets when he signs onto freenode.09:06
cozREGISTER09:07
dabaRchaumurky: one ahead of me.09:07
topyliuhh09:07
dabaRcoz: /j #ubuntu-offtopic09:07
coz-NickServ- REGISTER09:07
chaumurkythat's what I said. Don't worry......09:07
cozwhat?? off topic??09:08
dabaRVivid2005: did you have a question for the asleep?09:08
dabaRcoz: ya, Ill show you how to do it.09:08
topylicoz: many people and 1 bot have told you many times :)09:08
Vivid2005-NickServ- REGISTER Vivid09:08
cozI cannot go to another server normally that s what I was trying to tell you09:08
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cozlet me try to find it09:08
qt2okay then, is there a way i can set up ubuntu to automatically log in as a certain user?09:08
topylicoz: don't find it. just join it09:09
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freelovewhat command cleans my var/cache/apt/archive ?09:09
freeloveits full i cant download anything!09:09
chaumurkysudo apt-get clean09:09
cozYou don't seem to understand there is NO list to join I have to g into another menyu hold on09:09
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freelovechaumurky: will it move it to trash or permanent clean?09:09
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topylilist? join the channel -- /join #ubuntu-offtopic09:09
chaumurkyperm09:09
Stampertjefuck this i just did the stupidest thing09:10
Stampertje:(09:10
freelovechaumurky: good09:10
Stampertjei couldn't edit fstab09:10
elemenzecrimsun: i just restarted X, and xmms is working along with the system sounds, but sound in games like tuxracer, bzflag and armagetron doesn't work09:10
Vivid2005I have two questions...09:10
Stampertjeso i echo'ed a line to it.. i thought09:10
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jmibanezis hald supposed to get permission denied errors while trying to read /dev/sda of a usb thumb drive?09:10
Stampertjeno everything is gone except for the line i echoed09:10
Vivid2005I couldn't edit fstab09:10
chaumurkymy favourite 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get clean'09:10
crimsunelemenze: you need to stop esd before you play those games.09:11
Stampertjewell i tried in root shell chmod 777 /etc/fstab09:11
elemenzecrimsun: how do i stop esd?09:11
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jmibanezspecifically, addon-storage.c:283 is logging "open failed for /dev/sda: Permission denied"09:11
Stampertjebut that didn't work very well09:11
crimsunelemenze: uncheck the box in System> Preferences> Sound> Enable sound server startup09:11
elemenzecrimsun: and is thre a way to start it09:11
Stampertjeso i echo'ed that fuckin line09:11
Stampertje:/09:11
topylichaumurky: it's good to keep a cache so you can revert broken upgrades09:11
chaumurkylanguage09:11
elemenzecrimsun: thanks09:11
crimsunelemenze: to restart it, simply recheck that box09:11
Stampertjecan i turn it back somehow ?09:11
Vivid2005I am the only user on my ubuntu, but I am not allowed to log in with the root !!!!!!!09:11
elemenzecrimsun: awesome09:11
Stampertjebecause if i reboot now i think it's all fucked up09:11
crimsun!tell Vivid2005 about root09:12
jmibanezanyone? who's handling hald?09:12
Stampertjeyou can't login with root09:12
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Stampertjeonly in shell09:12
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Stampertjeor reboot and try recovery mode09:12
chaumurkyspose, but my repositorie's local and doesn't count as quota from my IAP. I'm on a 12Mb line so....09:12
Stampertjenot sure about that though09:12
chaumurky*ISP09:12
elemenzecrimsun: great! when i use the alsa plugin on xmms, music still comes out! ^^09:12
Vivid2005If it is not possible to log in with the root, I want to create a user with the permissions of root!!09:12
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Stampertjeghehe09:12
elemenzecrimsun: wait, not it doesn't, jut my imagination =\09:13
crimsunVivid2005: you already did -- your user is capable of using sudo09:13
bdiscoeI have 5.04 and want to upgrade to 5.10... but Ubuntu site doesn't say how to do that.  Can anyone tell me?  Is is simple?09:13
Stampertjeadduser user -u 0 -g 0 -d /09:13
Stampertjei think09:13
jmibanezah, ignore that, found the problem09:13
Stampertjesomething like that09:13
chaumurkysudo passwd09:13
chaumurkyoops..09:13
Ej25goddesschaumurky, can I ask a question of you?09:13
chaumurkyyes09:13
crimsunelemenze: come again?09:13
elemenzecrimsun: oh yes it does, my volume was jsut down09:13
jmibanezborken installation-- hal apparently isn't a member of plugdev-- hence the problem09:13
crimsunelemenze: heh09:13
elemenzecrimsun: nevermind, everything is fine, thanks for everything09:13
Ej25goddessI redownloaded ubuntu, checked it with the md5 file, and burned it at the slowest speed my burner would do09:13
Ej25goddesswhich is 8x09:14
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Ej25goddessthis time i am installing it on the lapptop that worked just fine with the live cd09:14
chaumurkybut.....09:14
chaumurkyyes.....09:14
Ej25goddessbut durrinig hte install, it said that a package (i think) didnt work durring thet install09:14
Ej25goddessbut thtat I could install it later09:14
chaumurkywhich?09:14
Vivid2005what the f. is sudo???09:14
Stampertjecan someone plz paste the content of fstab to me in query ??09:14
chaumurkymay not be critical09:15
Stampertjeoh w809:15
Ej25goddesswhen it finally booted the first time, it wouldnt let me configure network settings09:15
crimsunVivid2005: did you read the url that I had sent to you?09:15
chaumurkyman sudo09:15
Stampertjethat shit is different for anyone09:15
Stampertjefuck this09:15
Stampertje:D09:15
chaumurky!language09:15
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, chaumurky09:15
chaumurkyLOL!!09:15
bdiscoeI have 5.04 and want to upgrade to 5.10... but Ubuntu site doesn't say how to do that.  Can anyone tell me?  Is is simple?09:15
Ej25goddessthe live version automatically configures itself09:15
Ej25goddessand hops onto my wireless09:15
SyntuxSyntux error!09:15
Ej25goddessand everything works just fine without me eeven touching it09:15
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Vivid2005ahhhh !! THX!09:15
chaumurkyahh you may need ndiswrapper package?09:16
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Ej25goddessis there anyway tto do an ftp install of ubuntu?09:16
chaumurkyso you can boot to the install though09:16
Ej25goddessyeah09:16
cosimoOk I am here again but xchat is still wrong09:16
Ej25goddessii just cant confiigure any of the network settings09:16
robitaillebdiscoe,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade09:16
crimsunStampertje: we avoid use of that language here.09:16
chaumurkyyou just need to get wireless to work, yes?09:16
Ej25goddesscorrect09:17
chaumurkyahh, not just wireless09:17
Ej25goddessthis laptop doesnt even have a jack for a wired network09:17
chaumurkywow09:17
Ej25goddessold school.09:17
Ej25goddessbotht of the computers I have right now are pIII 750s09:17
bdiscoerobitaille, thanks!  I can't imagine why the Ubuntu site doesn't link to the upgrade instructions.09:17
Ej25goddessone desktop and one laptop09:17
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chaumurkyunfortunately I'm not familiar with ndiswrapper or wireless. There may be others more able to help09:17
dabaRthey have that new 150$ laptops for children.09:17
Stampertjecrimsun, sorry will not happen again09:18
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cosimodabR this is still incorrect!09:18
iTuneshow am i gonna setup ftpd ? ive tried.. but no luck09:18
chaumurkyok, I got confudes09:18
Ej25goddessis there any sort of ftp install for ubuntu?09:18
robitaillebdiscoe,   the site doesn't have a lot of detailed info.  The wiki is the place to look at for things like that.09:18
dabaRcosimo: what does "thanks doof out" mean?09:18
Stampertjebut i'm just pissed because of my own stupidity09:18
Stampertje:P09:18
cosimoI am a doof09:18
freelovewhats the best window manager apart from kde & gnome?09:18
chaumurkyftp using what kind of connection?09:18
freeloveany recommendations?09:18
cosimoif you go under the menu "server' What do you see?09:18
fdelacruzhi there anyone already use firestar? any advice or tutorial for newbie09:18
topylicosimo: happily registered now?09:19
cosimoNo happily at all09:19
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topylidang09:19
dabaRfreelove: there is no best. You can learn about names of a few at http://xwinman.org/09:19
Ej25goddessusing a wireless connection09:19
Ej25goddessjust like the live setup does09:19
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chaumurkyfreelove you're killing me09:19
cosimook under the menu "server" what is listed there?09:19
StampertjeAnyone knows if there is some where I can reset fstab to like 30mins ago or something ?09:19
dabaRStampertje: man, your question was simple, and you were cluttering it with your speech.09:20
dabaRwhat, you want fstab to be normal restricted permissions instead of 777?09:20
Stampertjei apoligized for it09:20
Vivid2005Is it possible to change the optic of the GNOME-Menue??? In my opinion, the menue is tooo big! I want smaller Icons in the dropdown-Menue!!09:20
rambo3try tp see if there is fstab~ file09:20
Vivid2005menu09:20
chaumurkyhmm, there is a net install I think - but your problem will stop you from getting an ftp connection won't it?09:20
topyliStampertje: restore your fstab from yesterday's backups09:20
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dabaRStampertje: I dont care about the words, or apology, I am just noticing how you delayed your own answer.09:20
topyliStampertje: now you're going to say you don't do backups09:20
Stampertjetopyli, i installed it 3 hours ago09:20
cosimoanyone can do this... look under the meu item "server" and tell me what you see listed there09:21
topyliStampertje: oh man09:21
iTunes:|09:21
topyliStampertje: you'll have to write a new one09:21
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Stampertjewell can you give me yours ? so i can rewrite mine ? :P09:21
Stampertjei have no clue what to put in it09:21
topyliStampertje: sure, but mine will be all wrong of course09:22
Stampertjeyes i understand that :)09:22
chaumurky*goes back to work for a while*09:22
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Stampertjewell i can't help it.. i've used windows for many many years09:22
Stampertjebut my pc is euhh sort of wasted09:23
Stampertjecan't run windows no more09:23
rob1Seveas,  are you around?09:23
Stampertje:D09:23
cosimodabaR sorry to interrupt but this didn't solve the prolbme09:23
topyliStampertje: http://pastebin.com/46054509:23
topyliStampertje: btw, i hate private windows :)09:25
Stampertjeprivate ?09:25
Stampertjethere are some things i just can't do in linux which i really need though09:26
Vivid2005Is it possible to change the optic of the GNOME-Menue??? In my opinion, the menu is tooo big! I want smaller Icons in the dropdown-Menu!!09:26
topyliStampertje: yeah, /msg windows popping up from folks on support channels09:26
Stampertjeyeah sorry i thought u were gonna give it to me in query09:26
Stampertjeand i accidentially hit the dcc chat button09:26
cosimoanyone can yo help with this xchat problem09:27
Stampertjeand it didn't want to buzz off09:27
Stampertje:P09:27
Vivid2005Is a manual for ubuntu available??09:27
topyliStampertje: look a bit up, i pasted an url for you. my fstab is there09:28
Stampertjeyes i've seen it thanks :)09:28
Razor-XVivid2005: most standard Linux books should help you navigate the waters09:28
Stampertjeknow what thanks a lot!09:28
dabaRVivid2005: check out the starget guide at http://help.ubuntu.com09:28
Stampertjelol i almost got stargate out of that one09:29
topyliStampertje: how is your disk partitioned?09:29
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Stampertjeehm i didn't partitioned it09:29
cosimodabaR the problem isn't the nick I had it is the program itself09:29
Stampertje2 hdd's09:29
Stampertje20gig for ubuntu09:29
Stampertjeand 120gig with my warez :p09:29
Stampertjei was trying to get that one working09:30
Stampertjentfs hdd09:30
Stampertjeneed my music ;)09:30
topyliStampertje: so you have one big partition on both disks, and the installer probably made a swap partition09:30
iTunesdabaR how can i set up ftpd ?09:30
Stampertjeyup it did09:30
dabaRStampertje: you should paste your fstab somewhere, so we can look, and say what your problem with fstab is.09:30
Stampertjei don't have a problem09:30
dabaRiTunes: you should use sftpd, ftpd sends passwords in plain text.09:31
Stampertjei just echo'ed this line: echo /dev/Y /mnt/ntfs ntfs users,owner,ro,umask=000 0 0 > fstab09:31
dabaRiTunes: install vsftpd for sftpd, or proftpd for ftpd. Again, I suggest, and use the former.09:31
Stampertjei missed one >09:31
Stampertje:p09:31
Stampertjeneeded 2 of them09:31
topyliStampertje: yeah, one typo is enough :)09:31
Stampertjedamn stupid thing to do09:31
Vivid2005the waters... but isn't a pdf availabe or so??09:31
dabaRcosimo: I got that by now, ya, fix the program.09:31
dabaRcosimo: I use irssi, I can not tell you anything about xchat.09:32
topyliStampertje: a "sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab-svass" first would have made a difference too :)09:32
iTunesdabaR ok.. ill try it out09:32
ruiwenhi.. how do i activate (not sure if that's the word) php in apache?09:33
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cosimowell does andyone here use xchat????09:33
Madpilot!tell ruiwen about apache09:33
dabaRruiwen: you install a php plugin for apache09:33
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kwtm1Hello!09:33
Madpilotruiwen: the wiki URL that ubotu should have just sent you has all the info you need for apache+php09:33
Stampertjeprobably yes09:34
Stampertje:P09:34
cosimowho is using xchat here tongiht?09:34
chaumurkynirc ;-)09:34
kwtm1How do I use the command-line to get a list of available deb packages that can be installed in Ubuntu, the way that Synaptic or Adept lists the available packages?  I tried using "dpkg -l <PackageName>" or "dpkg -l | grep <PackageName>", but it could not seem to find packages that were clearly listed as available in Synaptic or Adept.  Am I missing something?09:34
Stampertjeif i reboot now i can't get in ubuntu probably right ?09:34
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rambo3tonight?09:34
ruiwenMadpilot: thanx =)09:34
cosimoOK now09:34
rambo3i use zchat , but dont know much about it09:34
holycowkwtm1, apt-cache search packagename09:34
rambo3x09:34
snpzkwtm1, use man apt-cache i think09:35
holycowkwtm1, also try to use aptitude, apt and aptitude are different apps in their own right09:35
cosimoanyone using xchat here?09:35
chaumurkyno and no09:35
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kwtm1holycow: will try.  Thx for the suggestion.09:35
snpzcosimo, yes09:35
kwtm1cosimo: I'm using xchat.  Why?09:35
holycowcosimo, sure09:35
cosimosnpz great09:35
snpzso?09:35
cosimowould you do me a favor09:35
snpzshoot09:36
cosimolook under the "server" menu and tell me what you havelisted there09:36
snpza list of available servers09:36
snpz:D09:36
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cosimoOK I don't have that under "server" I don't know why it is not there09:37
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iTunesblag09:37
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iTunesseatouch :P09:38
chaumurkyseatouch how you do that09:38
seatouch:P09:38
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chaumurkythe 'third person' thingy09:38
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kwtm1Under "server" I have "Disconnect | Reconnect | Leave Chan | Join Chan | Server Links | Ping Server | Hide Version "09:38
seatouchchaumurky /me slaps iTunes :P09:38
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Vivid2005Is WINE also available for UBUNTU????????09:39
chaumurkyYESSS!!!!09:39
Vivid2005:)09:39
iTunesVivid2005 yeah :P09:40
Vivid2005via synaptics??09:40
seatouchWINE ? :P09:40
iTunesyes09:40
Vivid2005k09:40
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Vivid2005how do I start wine??09:40
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chaumurkyyou dont09:40
p0stI saved /var/cache/apt/archives without saving the dpkg sources list (packages.gz). how do you reconstruct it so that apt can install packages?09:40
seatouch:P09:40
chaumurkywine starts windows programs09:40
chaumurkyi.e. wine windows program.exe09:41
Fujitsuchaumurky: It runs, not just starts.09:41
chaumurkywell, yes ok...09:41
Vivid2005so I execute the .exe and wine starts by itself?09:41
topyliVivid2005: "wine windows-app.exe"09:41
Vivid2005ah... k09:41
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blagVivid2005: install it. from universe. you can learn how to enable universe at http://dabar.selfip.org/synaptic.html09:42
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p0stps - i tried deb-file in sources.list, but I think it needs packages.gz09:42
blagp0st: reload your package list. like, sudo aptitude update09:43
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kwtm1p0st: I have a similar question:09:43
kwtm1holycow: It worked!  Another thing, if you (or anyone) could help me: say that I have a bunch of deb packages downloaded into some /MyDownloads directory, and I want Synaptic / Aptitude / Adept to find packages there rather than having to download them all again.  How do I set it up so that that directory is recognized as a potential source for deb packages?  I know I probably have to edit /etc/apt/sources.list, but I am not sure09:43
kwtm1what to put there.  Or how can I use Synaptic / Adept to help me do it?09:43
p0stblag: but then where does it look to update the list?09:43
tonyyarussoHow can I remove a package and ignore the dependencies (not removing the other things that want to be)?09:43
viperXDoes anyone have Firefox?09:43
chaumurkyhuh?09:44
blagp0st: everywhere in your sources.list09:44
topylitonyyarusso: it would be silly, because all that other stuff wouldn't work09:44
chaumurkydoesn't a default Ubuntu install have firefox??09:44
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winstonit does09:44
p0stkwtm1: read man apt. there is a utilitiy to read packages from a CD, but that utility rebuilds the sources.list09:44
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tonyyarussotopyli: It's for when I intend to reinstall, but have to do so from say a downloaded tar or something, or am just having temporary issues, and plan to put it back.09:45
holycowkwtm1, i donno i know it can be done but i've never looked up the syntax.  i just use dpkg -i to install packages.  i understand why you want to do that tho ... google local file system repositories09:45
kwtm1viperX: I'm using Firefox.  chaumurky: I think kubuntu uses Konqueror by default.09:45
topylip0st: there's practically no apt man page09:45
blagkwtm1: you would have to make a repo from the debs.09:45
blagkwtm1: I dont know how.09:45
p0stblag: I had the directory where the archives are stored in sources.list, but apt didn't see them09:45
chaumurkyahh, I need to think quicker...09:45
viperXthe install links for themes and extensions don't seem to be working for me. I was wondering if anyone had Firefox could you test the install links on the theme or extensions page to see if they work for you....09:45
topylitonyyarusso: you can force dpkg to remove a package, but apt will complain about broken packages after that09:46
viperXIf they work then that means that my firefox app is broken..09:46
blagp0st: I told you what to do. you need to update package list.09:46
kwtm1p0st: Didn't you just answer your own question?  You were telling me how to read from a directory, but in your case that directory happens to be /var/cache/apt, right?09:46
p0sttopyli: man sources.list, man aptitude, etc.09:46
topylip0st: yes, those are there09:46
tonyyarussotopyli: Okay.  That's exactly what I want.09:47
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p0stkwtm1: the original location of those packages is long gone. I saved them when it was too late.09:47
kwtm1p0st: Oh.  Anyway, re: your suggestion: the man page for "apt" says: This manpage isnt even started.09:48
viperXkwtml would you mind testing the install links on Firefox's theme page to see if they work on your browser?09:48
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viperX*kwtm109:48
kwtm1viperX: unclear what you want.  Do you mean go to the default Firefox page, and see if the links work?  Because I changed my default home page already.09:48
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tonyyarussotopyli: Can dpkg reinstall?09:49
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babygay_16rg09:49
mantienatonyyarusso, yes09:49
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henkhow do i tell ld to look in /usr/local/lib for files to link ? /etc/ld.so.conf is not on my system and i was wondering where ubuntu defines the path for ld09:49
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topylitonyyarusso: sure09:49
viperXI'm sorry. https://addons.mozilla.org and see if any of the install links for the themes or extensions work for you...09:49
p0stblag: for example, when you "install" the packages on the unofficial ubuntu addon CD, it adds the packages to the cache, but it also updates the dpkg list, with each line starting with "ii".09:49
icebloodFhuh09:50
Vivid2005Thx for your help09:50
blagkwtm1: you could also even update the package list and put the files in /var/cache/apt/archives/ that could work for you too.09:50
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tonyyarussomantiena, topyli: How?09:50
Vivid2005One last question is already open!!!!09:51
mantienatonyyarusso, dpkg -i package_blablabla.deb09:51
Vivid2005How can I change the ICON-Size in the dropdown-menu in GNOME??09:51
tonyyarussomantiena: And that will overwrite?09:51
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mantienayes09:52
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topylitonyyarusso: no-one remembers dpkg commands without referring to the manual page :)09:52
tonyyarussotopyli: Right.  Okay.09:52
MrFartswho is jessica simpson and why should i care ?09:52
kwtm1viperX: Well, I'll try to install an extension... but I already have some extensions installed.  Does that answer your question, or do you need me to specifically try those extensions on that page?09:53
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viperXJust try one. Just click on it to see if anything happens when you click the link. Thanks~09:53
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chaumurky<viperX> where is this going??09:54
p0sttonyyarusso: are you updating the package cache?09:54
viperXWell, I'm trying to see if something is wrong with the entire site of if it's just my browser that's broken!09:54
tonyyarussop0st: I'm doing this from a tar.gz09:55
tonyyarussoSo actually, I'm crazy; dpkg won't do me any good anyway.09:55
kwtm1viperX: I clicked on Hide Searchbar under https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/showlist.php?application=firefox&category=Search%20Tools&numpg=10&pageid=609:55
topylitonyyarusso: afterwards, you'll want' to use dpkg-divert to fool dpkg into thinking the package is installed09:56
kwtm1viperX: and it installed.  The list of extensions says: "This item will be installed the next time you restart Firefox."  Everything as expected.09:56
chaumurkyI just install Tab-X and then removed it. np.09:56
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viperXThen my browser is broken. I'm using adept to manage my packages. Could I use it to uninstall Firefox?09:57
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TehGreetings again :)09:57
hardenI did this: 1) disconnected my cdrom from power supply and secondary IDE; 2) moved HDD #2 from its position as slave to the CDROM and connected it as slave to HHD #1 on the primary IDE, instead 3) tried to boot 4) boot complains about superblock and that it can't find hdd2. anyone point me in a direction of what's happening?09:57
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chaumurkytry apt-get install --reinstall firefox09:58
kwtm1harden: when it says it can't find "hdd2", does it literally say "hdd2"?09:58
TehMay I ask waht the difference is between installing formating and installing, or formatting and choosing "use LVM"?09:58
hardenthings I should be doing instead 1) sleeping or 2) studying for tomorrow's final :)09:58
hardenyes hdd2, indeed09:58
icebloodFwdewd09:58
viperXok!09:58
chaumurkyoh, make sure the popup blocker lets mozilla in...09:58
icebloodFhoi09:59
kwtm1harden: your master hard drive on the main IDE connector is "hda", and its slave is "hdb".  The main drive (your CDROM, it seems) on the secondary IDE connector is "hdc", and its slave is "hdd".09:59
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kwtm1So, by reconnecting your hard drive that way, it has become "hdb".  The second partition is now "hdb2".09:59
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kwtm1harden: If you try to mount it, it won't find "hdd2".  You might want to try this:10:00
chaumurkyguys what's this? "[CTCP]  robitaille requested your version."10:00
kwtm1harden: "mount /dev/hdb2 /My/Usual/Mount/Directory"10:00
kwtm1harden: You might want to try "ls /dev/hd*" to see what's available to mount.  (I *think* that works.)10:01
hardenso this fails because fstab thinks it knows where the second HDD is (and its not there)?10:01
kwtm1harden: correct.  You might want to correct /etc/fstab.  Try manual mounting first to verify that it is indeed "/dev/hdb2" where it is.10:02
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kwtm1harden: shouldn't the final be more important?10:02
hardenindeed, now that I've rebooted, I think I'll try it in the morning; but I had to ask :)10:02
kwtm1I don't know which IRC software you guys are using, but mine (Xchat) highlights the lines where my name appears.10:03
TehWhen installing shoudl I use LVM or not?10:03
kwtm1If you don't put "kwtm1" in your lines, sometimes I don't realize that you're talking to me.10:03
hardenalso: the final isn't until noon, which is still 9 hours from now CST10:03
chaumurkyi'd need to read up on LVM to answer that. not a bad idea.......10:04
hardenthanks for your help, kwtml10:04
Tehok10:04
Teh:)10:04
hardenor maybe I'll just saty up for....a...bit...10:05
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iamphihello.  I am having problem viewing vietnamese unicode font with firefox.  I am looking at vietnamese websites, and letters that has accent on them are displayed in a different font face.  Any suggestions?10:06
viviersfhow do i allow passwordless logins in gdm ?10:06
chaumurkylook in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf. the answers you seek are there10:07
iTunesProFTPd warning: cannot start neither in standalone nor in inetd/xinetd mode. Check your configuration.10:07
iTunesanyone know how i can fix that ?10:07
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NikusanWine hangs with 100% CPU usage when I try to install Starcraft.. known bug?10:12
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holycowNikusan, wrong place to ask probably, no way anyone can really know that :/10:14
roycei have an hp zv5000 laptop, using live ubuntu cd most of my hardware works great.  I only have issues with my internal wlan card, it a broadcom chip, any ideas, i've heard about ndis wrapping, but I really am a n00b10:14
holycowgoogle will give you a faster result for such an esoteric issue10:14
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qt2err, how would i set apt to view reccomend packages as required by default?10:15
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calamari_hi10:15
holycowqt2, say what?10:15
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holycowyou can't do that, it's a very very bad idea because every package has recommends10:16
Alpha1Ubuntu comes with the nvidia driver right? I mean, the proper one?10:16
Alpha1or was I imagining things?10:16
qt2heh, okay then.10:16
holycowyou would get a circular dependency all over the place10:16
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joedjAlpha1: yeah, though there's some other stuff you must/should install10:16
irvinAlpha1, yes10:16
Alpha1woot, ta.10:16
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qt2Nikusan, #winehq to ask about that.10:16
holycowin one command you would end up installing everything10:16
CioNhey all I need a graphic FTP client anyone knows one?10:16
qt2holycow, ahh.10:16
calamari_I'm trying to set up an ident server so I can connect to DALnet, but I'm having trouble.  For one thing, firestarter shows ident requests as serious, and blocks them, even after I added an inbound rule to allow all on port 11310:16
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Nikusanqt2, holycow thanks guys, I'll ask there10:16
chrisx1CioN: gftp10:16
holycowCioN, gftp10:17
CioNchrisx1: tried that but it sucks, i blocks after few secs10:17
chrisx1yer10:17
holycowcoag, nautilus alos does that, also you can mount ftp locations via places / connect to server10:17
chrisx1i ended up using terminal10:17
royceif there is an apropriate wiki, point me that direction10:17
irvincalamari_, i have mine configured to block 113 but i can connect successfully10:17
CioNchrisx1 man ftp?10:17
chrisx1yer10:17
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calamari_irvin: any suggestions? I'm all ears :)10:18
CioNoh man that's long for such a simple task to do10:18
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qt2err, i mean, the kernel, not ubuntu :D10:18
holycowCioN, what can't you do with gftp?10:18
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CioNholycow: it just crashes10:18
chrisx1holycow: i find it times out n stuff easily10:18
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CioNyup10:18
CioNso is terminal quick to use10:19
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holycowah, was just curious, donno any other graphic clients10:19
holycowlike gftp or so10:19
CioNi saw all the synopsis and stuff it's kinda long10:19
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qt2calamari_, tried allowing the host as well?10:19
calamari_irvin: oh, I misread.. are you dsaying that you are blocking ident and dalnet still lets you on?  yes, it can.. but it doesn't allow that for certain isps, like mine hehe10:19
CioNchrisx1 u set up firestarter to work with ftp?10:19
chrisx1no10:20
roycelooking for help getting my internal broadcom wireless adapter working in ubunu, any ideas?10:20
chrisx1i didnt install firestarter10:20
calamari_qt2: not sure.. how do I do that?10:20
CioNchrisx1 oh right :D10:20
calamari_qt2: I just set it to "everyone"10:20
chaumurky!ndiswrapper10:20
ubotuhmm... ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper10:20
calamari_ahh found it nm :)10:21
qt2;)10:21
CioNchrisx1 u configured ftp on term or u set coordinates every time?10:21
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chrisx1what u mean?10:21
CioNcoordinates of ur server10:21
chrisx1??10:21
CioNserver, username, password and stuff10:22
chrisx1yer10:22
CioNso u don't insert those coordinates everytime u upload?10:22
qt2firestarter is just a frontend for iptables, correct?10:23
CioNqt2 yup10:23
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viperXWhat the command for configure?10:24
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xratmxhall10:25
|boris|hi. How do I know if my RAID Host adapter "Promise Fasttrak sx4000" will work with Breezy ?10:26
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joedj|boris|: one option is to try it with the live DVD10:26
Maxihallo10:26
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Maxi ddere10:27
Maxidu siehst nicht10:27
chaumurkysudo dpkg-reconfigure <package>10:27
tetrisasdfasdfas10:27
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chaumurkyhaha10:29
roycei'm looking for advise/information on running ubuntu dual boot10:29
chaumurkyspecifically --10:29
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roycewith windoze10:30
chaumurkybe specific10:30
chaumurkyand its Windows10:31
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ppcguyhey all.. How would I go about setting my term to boarderless w/ breezy?10:31
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rambo3what10:31
roycein any case, jst what partition settings would be optimal to avoid conflict with a previously installed windows xp system10:32
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chrisx1:o10:32
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chaumurkyjust leave as much unpartitioned space free as you can allow. Then let the install partition the unused space.10:33
chaumurky[CTCP]  robitaille requested your version./exit10:33
ppcguywhat about the reverse? I have breezy installed on my celeron and would like to install XP..But even w/ a live cd boot fdisk and/or qt does not let me resize my hd10:34
roycewill I still be able to have swp partitions, will ubuntu hold my hand through the setup?10:34
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zelevwhi guys...i had to reboot my pc this morning after nothing would work...the messages were that I had a read-only file system...even as the pc shut down some things failed to shutdown because of the read-only issue...10:35
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|boris|joedj, Thanks, I'll try that10:38
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e-spywhy /etc/init.d/inetd restart does not work in ubuntu?10:40
e-spywhat is the replacment for that function..10:40
viperXI'm seriously getting peeved. I downloaded the Firefox 1.5 tar from mozilla. I extracted the firefox folder from the tar and then CD to the firefox folder. I've been trying to execute the ./configure command to compile the program but everytime i do, i get a 'no such file or directory' message. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?10:41
chaumurkymaybe it's xinetd10:41
e-spynope it's not10:41
chaumurkyhmm10:41
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linuxaddictsviperX,i had same prob,10:42
e-spyi know it's wird10:42
chaumurky<viperX> I've heard that getting FF1.5 to work in 5.10 is a pain.10:42
linuxaddictsremoved older firefox and did a clean install,10:42
viperXCan someone walk me thru compiling  this program?10:42
linuxaddictsthen it worked10:42
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tonyyarussoviperX: There is no configure.10:42
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tonyyarussoviperX: Check the wiki - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion, it doesn't need compiling.10:44
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viperXSorray about that. Blasted program crashed.10:45
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tonyyarussoviperX: There is no configure.  Check the wiki - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion, it doesn't need compiling.10:45
viperXAnyway, i have to manually compile the program because everytime that I use my package manager it gives me Firefox 1.0.7; I think that's the reason that the install links for themes and extensions don't work for me.10:46
viperXI'll check it out...10:46
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tonyyarussoviperX: Make sure to do the step changing where /usr/bin/firefox points to make sure you use the new version.10:46
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cozhello all10:47
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Tehso in my install it just said "cpufreq:hange failed with new_state 1 and result 0"10:47
Teherr10:47
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Tehchange10:47
viperXk10:47
Tehshould I care?10:47
cozwell all that gave suggestions as to how to fix the xchat problem I was having were all wrong!10:47
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cozdabaR the problem was , as I said the newer version of xchat.10:48
Tehany thoughts?10:48
cozfor some reason the develper decided to remove all entries under one of the meu items making it nearly impossible to join a channel unless it ws typed in10:48
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cozrecover10:49
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tonyyarussoAnyone have experience burning audio CDs directly from MP3?10:58
tonyyarussoI'm wondering which apps can do it.10:58
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_Gray_tonyyarusso: gnomebaker is good10:59
tonyyarusso_Gray_: If I just tell it that I'm making and audio CD and add mp3 files to the list, will it figure it out from there?10:59
_Gray_tonyyarusso: you just drag and drop the mp3s and it will make it11:00
tonyyarusso_Gray_: Perfect.11:00
_Gray_tonyyarusso: just make sure you click on Audio Disk tab11:00
tonyyarusso_Gray_: Right.11:01
_Gray_tonyyarusso: if you need to install it the command is sudo apt-get install gnomebaker11:01
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tonyyarusso_Gray_: Already done.11:01
_Gray_tonyyarusso: ok cool11:02
tonyyarusso_Gray_: Any idea why Gnomebaker would want me to be root to burn a CD?11:03
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Madpilottonyyarusso: it shouldn't - k3b doesn't...11:03
_Gray_tonyyarusso: it shouldn't unless there may be files that are owned by root?11:04
_Gray_tonyyarusso: i dont have to run as root or sudo...11:04
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tonyyarusso_Gray_ & Madpilot: No files belonging to root.  Maybe I need to add an entry to sudoers or some other permissions config to access burning capability?11:05
vbgunzis it possible to rm -fr a /directory but don't touch /directory/precious ?11:05
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_Gray_tonyyarusso: is this the default user you made with ubuntu installation?11:06
tonyyarusso_Gray_: Yes.11:06
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_Gray_Go to System > Administration > Users and Groups11:06
_Gray_then right click your username and select properties11:07
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tonyyarusso_Gray_: Yes?11:07
vbgunzhow to delete everything in a directory *except* for only one folder and it's contents?11:07
_Gray_and under the privileges tab, make sure that it has the permissions right11:07
Madpilottonyyarusso: I've used a lot of the burning apps that're available for Ubuntu, and never had to change my user settings...11:07
_Gray_madpilot: same here11:08
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Elektrochelovekhelp11:08
Elektrochelovekforgot syntax11:08
Elektrochelovekfor bot11:08
_Gray_tonyyarusso: i have all ticked except use tape drive and setup and recieve faxes11:08
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tonyyarusso_Gray_: Same.11:09
Elektrochelovektell java11:09
BaradisGreetinge11:09
Elektrochelovekinfo java11:09
calamari_has anyone here sucessfully set up pidentd under ubuntu?  I can connect via telnet, but I get reponses like this: 61511 , 113 : ERROR : UNKNOWN-ERROR11:09
Baradiser, Greetings rather11:09
_Gray_Elektochelovek: its !tell11:09
_Gray_tonyyarusso: I don't know what's up then11:09
Elektrochelovek_Gray_, thnx!11:09
vbgunzI assume there is no way to use rm to delete everything in a directory *except* for one sub dir beneath it? correct?11:09
Elektrochelovek!tell java11:09
Elektrochelovek!tell Elektrochelovek11:09
tonyyarusso_Gray_: All right.11:10
_Gray_vbgunz: try man rm it might give you some ideas11:10
Elektrochelovek!tell11:10
Baradisquick inquiry, seeing as I can;t seem to find it on the website11:10
Elektrochelovek!tell Elektrochelovek -about java11:10
vbgunzcan someone help me out? What am I looking for that will help delete the contents of a directory *except* for a directory beneath it?11:10
_Gray_!tell Elektrochelovek about java11:10
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Baradisdoes ubuntu have inherent NVidia video driver support or do you need to install the drivers manually?11:10
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_Gray_baradis: it has nvidia drivers but only 2d11:11
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tonyyarusso_Gray_: Why is Gnomebaker trying to reference mplayer, totem, and java plugins on startup?11:11
Baradisso for the 3d acelleration you'd have to manually install the binaries?11:11
chaumurky<Baradis>  sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx11:11
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mjrBaradis, free 2d drivers are installed by default, the 3d drivers are shipped in the restricted section and are easy to install11:11
vbgunz_Gray_: I checked info rm, man rm and rm --help. I don't think rm supports this very simple idea *but* I don't dare rule it out... Maybe there is a secret setting or something else I can use :(11:11
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BaradisI'm just checking a few thinga bout ubuntu out befoire I install it on my new computer11:12
_Gray_tonyyarusso: No idea sorry11:12
BaradisI ordered a few copies to pass out to my lug11:12
viperXHow do I rename a file in the terminal11:12
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calamari_viperX: mv oldname newname11:13
chaumurkymv <filename> <newfilename>11:13
chaumurky:-)11:13
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viperXThanks guys, you rock!11:13
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Baradisis it just me,. or are the commands in ubuntu similar to those in debian11:14
_Gray_Baradis: ubuntu is a branch of debian11:14
Baradisoh11:14
Baradisthat explains that then11:14
_Gray_Baradis: they take the lasted from Sid and make it into ubuntu11:14
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yo2luxhi11:15
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raphink_Gray_: don't say that to Debian people11:16
_Gray_raphink: say what?11:16
raphinkUbuntu is, for a big part, synchronized with Debian and works (approximatively) the same way11:16
raphinkbut Ubuntu is not Debian11:16
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yo2luxi think exista a command "import" to make screenshots.. I don't have this command in Ubuntu, what need to install for me?11:16
raphinkhi yo2lux11:16
_Gray_raphink: yeah true tru11:16
raphink_Gray_: you could say Ubuntu works close to Debian11:16
joedjyo2lux: i think it's in imagematick11:17
Baradismy only problem is11:17
joedjyo2lux: imagemagick11:17
raphinkas for universe package, we synchronize a lot of Debian package & fix them11:17
Baradiswhat to do with 32 ubuntu cd's11:17
BaradisI orderes 611:17
raphink_Gray_: you cannnot say that Ubuntu is a branch of Debian, this is not true11:17
Baradiswound up with4011:17
winstonleave them in libraries11:17
raphinkBaradis: give them out :D :D11:17
raphinkI ordered 20 and never received them11:18
BaradisI gave copies to all the members of my lug11:18
raphinkmaybe you got mine ;)11:18
_Gray_Baradis: well it's a simplified explanation.. sorry i wasnt exact11:18
Baradisperhaps11:18
_Gray_sorry i meant raphink11:18
Baradiswant some? lol11:18
raphinkhehe11:18
BaradisI never even orderes the mac ones11:18
_Gray_when i ordered 5 cds i got 50 lol11:18
BaradisI don't even think theres a mac in this entire province11:18
winstonlol11:18
raphink_Gray_: just that if you say that to many debianers, they will (sadly) get mad at you for that ;)11:18
_Gray_raphink: tell em about it. i just act noob and run lol11:19
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ajmitchraphink: to some debian people, not all11:19
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raphinkI didn't say all ajmitch ;)11:19
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chaumurkyyeah, the whole fork issue rubs some up the wrong way11:19
raphinkmany ubuntu devs being debianers ;)11:19
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raphinkajmitch: I wouldn't be here if I had not been a debianer first11:20
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ajmitchraphink: neither would I :)11:20
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raphink:)11:20
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Baradisthe very first distro I ever uses was Libranet, a debian based distro11:20
raphinkajmitch: as you're around ... did you have some time to review my packages?11:20
saik0how do I see where a symbolic link points from the CLI11:20
Baradisnever tried the full deb though11:20
viperXok, I'm trying to run the new firefox, but I keep getting an error saying that it can't find the mozilla runtime directory. any ideas?11:20
marabuntHi all11:20
Baradisalways used a deb variant11:20
Oetzihi can anyone tell me where i can get automake 1.511:20
ajmitchraphink: nope11:21
raphinkBaradis: then you'll be happy with ubuntu ;)11:21
marabunt    ?11:21
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raphinkajmitch: seems the REVU day was a bit of a failure... not so many packages were reviewed ... the list is still very long11:21
Baradisprovided I can get this new computer built so I got something to install it on, yeah11:21
viperXWas that Russian or greek?11:21
ajmitchraphink: not a failure11:22
_Gray_Grussian?11:22
marabuntRussian11:22
raphink  marabunt11:22
ajmitchraphink: it's a constant task, reviewing..11:22
marabunt ?11:22
_Gray_anyone here installed dapper?11:22
raphinksure ajmitch11:22
ajmitch_Gray_: sure11:22
Baradisanyone want 10 copies of the mac version?11:22
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_Gray_ajmitch: im gon put it on tonight so i can test it out11:23
raphinkne znaiu marabunt11:23
ajmitch_Gray_: it's only recommended if you know how to fix things when they break :)11:23
_Gray_ajmitch: only one way to find out... lol11:23
marabuntsenks11:23
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raphinkmarabunt: #ubuntu-ru ?11:23
Mchashi whabout xubuntu ...?11:23
Mchasis there a prevew date ?11:24
raphinkmarabunt: v #ubuntu-ru - liudi11:24
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qt2Quick question, does ubuntu's lilo install autoboot a kernel after an amount of time?11:24
_Gray_qt2: it uses grub11:25
_Gray_qt2: and yes it  defaults to 10 seconds11:25
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qt2_Gray_, yes, by default it does, however, grub didnt work on the pc i was working on, so lilo had to be installed instead.11:25
_Gray_qt2: oh makes sense11:25
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qt2_Gray_, i knew grub did, was wondering about lilo.11:26
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_Gray_qt2: in your lilo.conf theres a line delay = <number>11:27
_Gray_qt2: that shows the delay in tenths of seconds11:27
_Gray_qt2: so 50 = 5 seconds etc.11:27
qt2ah, i see.11:28
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qt2_Gray_, i'm trying to get lilo set up to autoboot to the desktop after a restart. ;)11:29
qt2so i can ssh or vnc11:30
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saik0knowing glxgears is'nt a real bechmark, how man fps should I be getting with nvidia-glx11:31
saik0many*11:31
_Gray_saik0: that depends on your card11:31
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qt2so by default, as long as the delay is set, and the default is set to Linux, i should be able to send a remote restart signal, and have it autoboot the new kernel, assuming there's no kernel panic??11:32
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saik0_Gray_ GeForce 6800 128 MB11:32
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_Gray_qt2: yes11:33
joedj!tell me about repos11:33
qt2_Gray_, cool.11:33
joe_oblivianhi everybody I've run into an issue installing ubuntu on a ppc with an existing installation of OS X tiger. My problem has already been described here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8543811:33
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joe_oblivianif anybody has a solution... it's welcome11:34
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qt2_Gray_, and it's my understanding that if i check the "log in a user automatically on first bootup" and choose a name, that it will automatically log me into the desktop?11:35
soldieruk400hi all guess what ? ive lost my sound boo hoo lol11:35
_Gray_qt2: yes you can have gdm automatically bypass the login screen and just go straight to desktop11:36
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_Gray_qt2: System > Administration > Login Screen Setup is where you can configure it.11:36
qt2_Gray_, shouldnt it require me to input a password somewhere? o.O11:36
qt2_Gray_, i know, i already did.11:36
soldieruk400anyone know how to get the speakers working again ?11:37
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_Gray_qt2: you can have it automatically select a user and you just have to input the password, yes11:37
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qt2_Gray_, err would i be able to start up vnc to enter that password?11:37
qt2_Gray_, or does the remote desktop client not start till after the password has been entered?11:38
_Gray_qt2: I haven;t used vnc in ages sorry.11:38
em0ngMy computer seems to freeze every time I try to acquire webcam from XSane. How might I fix this? It looks like it pauses when probing USB ports, because when I reboot my computer I have to unplug+replug my mouse.11:39
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qt2well... i'm not sure if it's specifically vnc.... i'm just refrencing ubuntu's "remote desktop" feature"11:39
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soldieruk400is their some sort of roll back to get ubuntu running like it was before the speekers went mute?11:41
rambo3what did you do after thay worked11:41
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soldieruk400its gone qiet in here11:43
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soldieruk400hi all or anyone .can any one tell me how to get my sound back ?11:45
_Gray_soldieruk: what did u do to lose it11:45
soldieruk400im new to this o/s11:45
soldieruk400i think i uninstaled somthing by mistake to do with the sound but cant find what it was11:46
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dockanehi all ... is just apt-cache searched for lprngtool. (breezy x86) couldn believe that there is no ubuntu .deb for. finally i found it on http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for hoary (multiverse). whats the best solution now to install it ? from source ? the hoary .deb ?11:46
_Gray_try sudo alsamixer and see if the meters are up and enabled (m to enable/disable)11:46
soldieruk400when it bootes up it workes bt after that you dont get anything11:46
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soldieruk400thanks gray ill try that11:47
_Gray_dockane: .deb would be easier and quicker11:47
rambo3how do you know if it works? alsa passed doesnt tell much11:47
dockane_Gray_, yes of course ... but its from hoary (multiverse) and i am runnning breezy11:47
chaumurky<dockane> did you uncomment the multiverse entries in /etc/apt/sources.list and sudo apt-get update?11:47
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chaumurkyoh11:47
chaumurkynot in Breezy?11:47
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dockanenope11:48
chaumurkyvery odd11:48
_Gray_dockane: maybe request it to backports?11:48
dockanecould find it with apt-cache search and http://packages.ubuntu.com/ either (for breezy)11:48
dockane_Gray_, is that something like a "oops, we missed it for breezy" ?11:48
_Gray_dockane: you could go ahead and install from source if you really need it. I'd suggest that you file a bug report and say that its missing11:49
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dockane_Gray_, ok ill do so, thx11:49
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Seveasfrej, you there?11:54
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john_hi11:55
dnBis there a command to display the contents of a file inside the shell?11:56
dnBnot to edit?11:56
dockaneis anybody already registered for https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/breezy/+bugs and could fill out the bug form (for missing lprng in breezy multiverse)11:56
ArkainiumdnB, try cat?11:56
dnBArkainium, ohhh yeah, thanks :D11:56
aeon17x*meow*11:57
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hydroksydehello11:57
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Seveashi hydroksyde11:57
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hydroksydedo you know if you type your password in IRC, it comes up as stars? ********** see?11:58
Seveashydroksyde, you've been reading too much bash.org11:58
hydroksydedamn11:59
ajmitchhydroksyde: you know that's a silly thing to do in here..11:59
hydroksydewhy?11:59
winstonpassword, oh yeah:)11:59
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Seveasbecause it easily gets you kicked for being stupid11:59
raphinkhydroksyde: no comment11:59
raphinkhydroksyde: wanna play 127.0.0.1 hacking games too ?12:00
hydroksydedamn... anybody know of any linspire chat rooms?12:00
St^Anger^19manybody know of any java help channel other than ##java?12:00
raphinkhydroksyde: try #linspire maybe ...12:00
hydroksydenobody home12:01
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raphinktoo bad for you12:01
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raphinkI don't know why you would ask on #ubuntu about linspire channels. I can't think of a distro that is more different from ubuntu12:02
raphink(imo)12:02
Seveasraphink, well, linspire is also debian based and aims for end-user satisfaction12:02
SeveasIn a very different way though...12:02
raphinkthat doesn't make it closer to me ;)12:02
ajmitchhydroksyde: maybe ask your local LUG mailing list, there are a few good ones in NZ :)12:02
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hydroksydewas just hoping i'd find some people that would fall for it in a linspire channel12:03
raphinkthere's a different between being debian-based in respect to the debian-way  and taking debian devs as whores12:03
ajmitchhydroksyde: ah, so you're trolling?12:03
hydroksydeerm... sort of12:03
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ajmitchI'd suggest you don't try it in any other channels :)12:03
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SeveasI hate trolls in the morning12:04
ajmitchheh12:04
ajmitchyes, morning here in NZ now12:04
raphinkyeah12:04
raphinkbefore they take a shower they smell even worse than usual12:04
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Seveashmm, afternoon already here (12:04), time to get a shower and breakfast :)12:04
raphinksame time here Seveas :)12:04
St^Anger^19msame here too12:04
raphinkand same actions to be taken12:04
raphink;)12:05
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triple5same here ...;) (time12:05
adashi12:05
SeveasI am NOT showering with you raphink :p12:05
raphinkSeveas: that was clear enough for me, don't worry12:05
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adasis it possible to make domain networks like in windows?12:05
triple5ehm,  I already had a shower...12:05
St^Anger^19m:( i need java help but java ppl dont answer to anything...is there anybody who used Swing here? plzzzz...12:05
Seveasadas, samba can help you there12:05
raphinksure adas, you can use samba12:05
triple5maybe use samba?12:06
FujitsuI think it is unanymous...12:06
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adaspls?12:06
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triple5adas: serious, it is called samba server12:07
raphinkyep :)12:07
FujitsuHonestly.12:07
Fujitsu!samba12:07
ubotuI heard samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently12:07
raphinktruly12:07
Seveasadas, apt-get install samba, read the documentation in /usr/share/doc/samba12:07
raphinkusing smbfs might also be a good way to access your shares easily12:08
raphinkonce samba is set12:08
adastriple512:08
adasi mean like win2k3 server can create domains in the network12:08
adasand it gives the apps needed for the other pcs12:08
triple5oh12:09
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triple5I guess you have to set it up properly12:09
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raphinkadas: you mean domains ?12:10
adasis it possible to make that on linux only?12:10
raphinklike local dns ?12:10
adaslike network domains12:10
adasyes12:10
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raphinkoh ok12:10
triple5you would have to create a depository on one server and then edit apt/sources.list on all the clien pcs12:10
raphinkwell then you need a dns server if you want to centralize that12:10
triple5maybe?12:10
adasbut i want the server to provide apps to the pc12:11
raphinkthat's not what adas wants triple512:11
triple5oops s/depository/repository12:11
adasis it possible to make disk images12:11
raphinkadas: what do you mean?12:11
adasand everytime erase all added?12:11
adassomething like in windows12:11
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triple5I think I know what adas means.12:11
raphinkadas: try to forget about how you do it on windows12:11
raphinkand to describe your needs12:11
liablersync!12:11
adasLOl12:11
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adasok :912:11
raphinkso we can find a linux solution12:11
adasrsync ok12:11
adasi gtg now12:12
adasthanks for the help12:12
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adasin a few hours i have more time12:12
adassorry to bother12:12
triple5you have a group of pcs like in a Computer pool12:12
adasbye12:12
adasyes12:12
adasbut i gtg now ok thanks12:12
triple5well that was too short to solve anything. but I know what adas means now...12:13
triple5it interests me, too...12:13
Alpha1so. Ubuntu.12:14
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triple5howto create a system like that for example useful for a Computerroom12:15
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Alpha1where can I find a list of repositories? I miss kate & konqueror & konsole12:15
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triple5anytime a user logs on, the system is created for this instance, when he logs of, everything is erased except in a private part that can be set, (e.g. a private capacity)12:16
triple5Alpha1 maybe you should go to #kubuntu ?12:17
Alpha1ooerr.12:17
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Alpha1thanks triple512:17
triple5!kubuntu12:17
ubotuKubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, not a fork ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/12:17
Alpha1ta12:18
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fony_vaiobreezy keeps freezing solid after reboots on my Sony Vaio PCG-K415B :-(12:21
fony_vaiowhat's the best way of diagnosing the problem? (i've seen other people with the same problem on forums, with no obvious solution provided)?12:21
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soldieruk400hi i have downloaded plugins for firefox and they have gon onto my desktop how do i install them ?12:25
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soldieruk400anyone have the answer ?12:27
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raphinksoldieruk400: plugins for firefox are not to be downloaded as such12:28
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raphinkthey should install directly in firefox when you click on the link12:28
soldieruk400a no way .howcome?12:29
raphinkno idea I don't use firefox myself anymore12:29
soldieruk400what do you recomend me using for a new web brouser ?12:29
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skwashdhi all12:30
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soldieruk400im used to windows brousers to see lol12:30
xfreehi skwashd12:30
Alpha1how do I get synaptic to use a proxy?12:30
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raphinkI use konqueror cause I'm on kubuntu. If you're on ubuntu it's not a great idea imo ;)12:30
skwashdi have 1 breezy machine which refuses to "remember" the .doc file assoc in ff ... anyone else struck this?12:30
soldieruk400ok what is a good replace ment for firefox12:30
skwashdhi xfelon12:30
skwashdhi xfree12:31
skwashddamn autocomplete ;)12:31
DeadZed-What application should I use for mounting hdd partitions (Package that would identify and automount all my partitons and let me unmount them)12:31
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xfreeAlpha1, from menu12:31
Knight_LordAlpha1 export http_proxy="http://proxy_url:proxy_door" usually works12:31
Alpha1ta++12:31
xfreeskwashd, haha12:31
soldieruk400lol im stuck then im on unbuntu lol12:32
skwashdi have tried removing mimeTypes.rdf and plugins.dat ... playing with mozpluggerrc to see if i can get it to work ...12:32
xfreeAlpha1, from setting >pref>network12:32
skwashdi have tried telling ff must be 20 times to use /usr/bin/oowrite212:32
soldieruk400seems like i will have to sus me firefox out lol12:32
skwashd /usr/bin/oowriter212:32
skwashdand it refuses12:32
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xfreeskwashd, try to use mozilla-boobo12:33
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xfreemozilla-bonobo12:33
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skwashdxfree: sudo apt-get install mozilla-boobo >?12:34
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skwashdgrrrr ... can't type tonight12:34
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xfreeskwashd, yes but ,mozilla-bonobo12:35
skwashdxfree: i was about to say not found :)12:35
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skwashdmaybe mozilla-booboo would be good ... fixes all of your booboos in ff|moz12:35
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xfreeskwashd, haha i hope that :)12:37
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xfreeubuntu come with suspend 2 ? or what12:38
FujitsuSuspending to a character of punctuation is not a supported feature, to the best of my knowledge.12:38
skwashdit could be like clippy ... "It looks like you are trying to fsck your ff install, would you like some help to ensure you totally fsck it up?"12:38
ruiwenhi.. does anyone know how to install drupal on ubuntu?12:39
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FujitsuFx, you mean?12:39
lennard__Gray_ are you there?12:39
_Gray_lennard_ sort of12:40
_Gray_lennard why whats up?12:40
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_Gray_lennard_ did the kernel upgrade go well?12:40
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lennard_yes and no - at first x didn't load anymore, had to reconfigure12:41
skwashdxfree: now i am really annoyed with ff12:41
skwashdafter an hour of yelling at the PC ... i worked it out12:41
ruiwenanyone have experience with drupal?12:41
FujitsuFx is the preferred abbreviation.12:41
lennard_took me some time, but i found the problem, it sends everything to my tv-out12:41
_Gray_sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server?12:41
_Gray_lennard_: oh12:41
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skwashdFujitsu: ff == fscking firefox12:42
bigfoot1how do i enable backports? please teach me step-by-step12:42
xfreeskwashd, ? why12:42
bimberi!info drupal12:42
skwashdUI bug ... actially had the association ... but kept on showing the browse button12:42
ubotudrupal: (fully-featured content management/discussion engine), section universe/web, is extra. Version: 4.5.5-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 472 kB, Installed size: 1928 kB12:42
FujitsuIf you say do...12:42
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Fujitsu*so12:42
_Gray_bigfoot1: just remove all single #'s from /etc/apt/sources.list make sure you dont take away any ##'s12:42
bimberiruiwen: it's in the universe repository12:42
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xfreeFujitsu, i mean suspend to harddisk above12:42
skwashdselect open with browse ... ok ... and it opens on oowriter212:42
_Gray_bigfoot1: then sudo apt-get update12:42
Fujitsuxfree, that is hibernate...12:43
ruiwenbimberj: as in to configure it and get it working.. i've installed it from the repository, but i can't find the "sites" directory nor the "settings.php" file mentioned in the drupal docs12:43
El-PresidenteHello, currently I have PHP generating directories but I always want the FTP user to be able to put files into those directories aswell, so far PHP has access to those newly created directories but the FTP user gets permission denied, is there a way to make a directory, have directories underneath it accessible in everyway to every unix user?12:43
xfreeskwashd, what this you want to open it with ff ?12:43
bimberiruiwen: got me there, i only knew of it's existence in the repos12:44
skwashdxfree: huh?12:44
xfreeFujitsu, yes that what i mean12:44
lennard_i tried IgnoreDisplayDevices, ExactModeTimingsDVI and ConnectedMonitor but it still doesnt work12:44
ruiwenbimberj: s'ok thanx =)12:44
bigfoot1how can i enable japanese input capability in opera browser?12:44
ruiwenanyone else know drupal?12:44
Fujitsuxfree, what is the problem?12:44
xfreeskwashd, drop this :)12:44
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Badm4nwhere is EU mirror ?12:44
bigfoot1_Gray_: how do i go to sources.list+12:44
skwashdxfree: ok12:45
_Gray_bigfoot1: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list12:45
Badm4nwhere is EU mirror ?12:45
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Ngruiwen: it may well have installed a README.Debian, check /usr/share/doc/drupal/ maybe?12:45
xfreeFujitsu, notwork any more just the suspend to mem but suspend to harddisk not work12:45
skwashdi will log a bug report on it ... cos the user PC n00b for 5 yrs and ubuntu n00b for life now keeps sending me "its fscked" emails12:45
bimberiubotu tell Badm4n about mirror12:45
skwashdcyaz12:46
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bigfoot1_Gray_: this is my soures.list. How do i put backports in there? Please look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d565012:46
Badm4nuboto mirror Europe12:46
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bimberiBadm4n: did you get a /msg from ubotu?12:47
bimberi!morrir12:47
ubotubimberi: I don't know, could you explain it?12:47
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Badm4nyes12:47
xfreebigfoot1, if you do some search on wiki.ubuntu.com you will get the full answer12:47
Badm4nbut i need spesific europe12:47
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_Gray_bigfoot1: just run sudo apt-get update and it should be all good12:48
Badm4n!mirror12:48
ubotumethinks mirror is repository mirrors can be found through http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive12:48
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_Gray_bigfoot1: do u have AIM?12:48
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_Gray_bigfoot1: it will be easier to help you there12:49
bigfoot1_gray_ yes12:49
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_Gray_bigfoot1: add Gray051212:49
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wildmanhello *12:53
El-Presidentehow can I find out which user apache is using?12:53
loyupmy first time using ubuntu, just installed xmms as per instruction on Unofficial Ubuntu 5.04 Starter Guide, but i cant it in the menu or from the command line, can anyone help ?12:53
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lennard_ /msg NickServ IDENTIFY mooij12:54
lennard_doh12:55
wildmanEl-Presidente: ps aux | grep http and check the user part of the output?12:55
_Gray_loyup: it should run when you type xmms in terminal or it isnt installed properly/at all12:55
lennard_pfew12:56
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loyup_Gray_, thats what i thought, typing xmms at the prompt gives command not found, but when i did apt-get install xmms no errors where reported, so i m a bit stuck now12:59
liam01loyup you may have to add something to your PATH variable12:59
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liam01type $PATH and see what it says01:00
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loyupliam01, output is bash: /usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games: No such file or directory01:01
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Nookie^Hi! All ubuntu developer can't you intergrate wireless-assistant instead of kwifimanager.. Kwifi suck really hard... i have tryed for 2 hour now to get my wireless network to work without any success...01:01
liam01looks like it should work... have you tried restarting the computer loyup01:01
Nookie^wireless-assistant is 100 times better and easyer to use... or is there any other client to manage wireless connections01:02
liam01although it shouldnt matter sometimes it could help01:02
loyupi havent no, thought was just a windows "feature", :/01:02
liam01Nookie^, system -> administrator -> networking01:03
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Nookie^hmm... will check it out..01:03
liam01add in your wep or whatever to most likely eth101:03
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Nookie^i will try now and see if there is any luck01:04
liam01loyup you are right, but ive seen things change.... try 'which xmms' at terminal01:04
liam01remember to eenable it and restart it if you changed settings Nookie^01:04
Nookie^ahh.... liam01: thanx m801:04
liam01np Nookie^01:05
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mcphailis there a package for libx264 with headers for breezy amd64?01:07
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bunglehi01:11
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Seveas!find libx26401:14
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Seveasubotu, ping01:14
ubotupong01:14
ubotuUbuntu Search of 'libx264' (1 shown): (/usr/lib/vlc/{libx264.a|libx264_pic.a}) in universe/libdevel/libvlc0-dev.01:14
Seveasmcphail, libvlc0-dev01:14
mcphailSeveas: Thank you01:14
ilba7rshouldn't vlc play ogg files or is there another player for it01:14
Seveasvlc should play ogg01:15
Seveasbut you can try totem too01:15
_Gray_ilba7r: any media player should as long as the right plugin is installed01:15
ilba7rthanx seveas i know it is not related to ubuntu but i know i always can count on you guys01:15
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ilba7rwill check out the plugins i have _Gray thanx01:15
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DeadZed-should I use kernel framebuffer in xserver settings or not .. and what is exactly kernel framebuffer?01:21
mcphailSeveas: libvlc0-dev seems to give me headers for vlc, but not for libx264 itself. I still can't compile against it. Do you have any suggestions?01:21
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bigfoot1i have installed uim. I can type japanese in gedit and in Xchat (, but how can i get Japanese capability in firefox?01:21
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Seveasmcphail, what's the headerfile called?01:24
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mcphailSeveas: x264.h01:24
bigfoot1anybody here use uim (japanese input)?01:25
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Seveasseems not to be available in ubuntu01:25
mcphailSeveas: I'll try using the header file from the cvs version01:25
CaptainMorganalright, what desktop wm do you guys recommend ?01:25
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AstxistCaptainMorgan, I like gnome01:25
DeadZed-here's an easy one: To use Framebuffer or no framebuffer01:26
Seveasmcphail, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/565501:26
CaptainMorganbeen told gnome is slow.. but I don't know01:26
SeveasCaptainMorgan, if gnome is too slow, try xfce or fluxbox01:26
AstxistCaptainMorgan, heh not sure about it being slow it's pretty fast on my pc01:26
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mcphailSeveas: thanks again01:27
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CaptainMorgani can't judge... that's why Im asking... never tried anything other than gnome01:27
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SeveasCaptainMorgan, if gnome works fine for you, don't change01:27
Seveas"Ig it ain't broken, don't fix it"01:27
CaptainMorgancool :)01:28
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jordi_hi, im quite new here; i ned help to configure one usb wireless SMC01:31
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jordi_hi it any one that can help me?01:33
odinAnyone ever play spellcast?01:33
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jordi_no i know no one01:33
g_warkhi, anyone know a the best port for azureus please?01:34
jordi_no01:34
oding_wark, What do you mean port for azureus?  It's java...01:34
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jordi_any one know how to manage with wireless of smc01:35
jordi_??01:35
Seveasjordi_, brand names don't help. Which chipset is in it?01:35
g_warkodin, azureus default is 688101:35
tech_your_futureAbove port 40000 works well for me in azureus01:35
jordi_802.11g01:35
oding_wark, Oh, you mean port range01:35
g_wark(incoming tcp / udp listening *port*01:35
Seveasjordi_, chipset...01:35
ben_underscorejordi_, do you have a cd with the windows drivers? you can use them using the ndiswrapper tool01:36
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Ngan lsusb might enlighten the situation ;)01:36
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jordi_ok ill try with the ndiswrappertools01:36
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g_warkdairy     40000 in the space where 6881 was will work well ?01:37
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dairyg_wark I get better speeds if i keep my ports above 40000 in any bittorrent client01:37
ben_underscorejordi_, if you install ndisgtk it gives you a nice gui and does all of the painful config file editing for you01:37
g_warkthankyou dairy , odin   :) cheers01:38
viperXAnybody using superkaramba right now?01:38
olicatany ideas if abiword can import svg images?01:38
jordi_ok thanks a lot01:39
ben_underscoredp01:39
ben_underscorenp01:39
viperXapparantly if I close the welcome screen for superkaramba the whole progrm will close. Is there a way to keep it running without having the welcome screen open?01:40
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viperXNevermind, figured it out! ;)01:41
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g_warkbig probs to the develepors of ubuntu, very neat distro :)))01:43
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g_warkprops rather ;)01:43
Herriehi01:43
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CaptainMorganyo01:44
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soldieruk400hi im using a bt b/b router at this verry moment and sor some freeky reason it is working i have not installed anything.is that bad ?01:49
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soldieruk400any one providing help ?01:51
void^bt = bluetooth or british telecom?01:51
soldieruk400telicom01:51
soldieruk400telecome01:51
soldieruk400i cant install the driver because there all windows01:52
void^well, if you're connected to the router via wire it's expected to work01:52
void^cat5/ethernet wire, that is.01:52
thoreauputicsoldieruk400: if linux recognised it, it works01:52
soldieruk400aa but do you think i will gain outside costs ie bills01:52
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soldieruk400im more concernd about out side bills :O(01:53
thoreauputicsoldieruk400: what do you mean?01:53
odinwhat provides "libttf.so.2"01:53
void^if the router does dial on demand and you're not on a flatrate, probably.01:53
MickMcMackDOOM. :(01:53
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soldieruk400well if i pay a monthly subscription to bt for b/b and use it with out there drivers01:53
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ilba7rhi how can i check my installed wireless driver version. I have ipw2200 card but do not know which driver version i have01:54
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thoreauputicsoldieruk400: how would they know or care ?01:54
soldieruk400lol01:54
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void^there's no point in drivers if you're using a ethernet router anyways01:54
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ilba7ri am using wireless01:54
soldieruk400so it should cost me no extra then ?01:54
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thoreauputicsoldieruk400: sounds like you are used to windows where you have to install drivers all the time01:55
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soldieruk400thats because im a new user to unbuntu lol01:55
thoreauputicsoldieruk400: :)01:55
thoreauputicsoldieruk400: welcome to freedom :)01:55
soldieruk400:O)01:55
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soldieruk400i know its well awesome01:56
void^i daresay it would be possible to make it work on windows without drivers too01:56
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shanonxwhat would cause my Mplayer plugin to be choppy?01:56
Ngalmost no routers need drivers, the companies just love the opportunity to waste your time and get their logo on your desktop ;001:56
Ng-0+)01:56
soldieruk400well i prefair unbuntu now lol01:56
thoreauputicNg: exactly :)01:56
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NgI found my landlord digging around the lame Dr Speedtouch software his installed, when the problem was obviously that he'd pulled the line cable out of the socket ;/01:57
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soldieruk400just wish i had the know how of everything but it takes time i guess01:57
thoreauputic!tell soldieruk400 about docs01:58
thoreauputic!tell soldieruk400 about restricted01:58
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thoreauputicsoldieruk400: that's a start - read the URLs ubotu sent you :)01:58
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ColonelKernelwhat is the name of the ubuntu wireless adapter configuration utility? Im trying to get wireless working with the livecd01:59
soldieruk400cheers ill have a good read01:59
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thoreauputicsoldieruk400: the help icon on your top panel contains much info too :)02:01
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soldieruk400cool02:01
thoreauputicplus there's  help.ubuntu.com02:02
soldieruk400cant wait to configer my ipod eventualy02:02
shanonxwhat would cause gAIM to use my internal beep, instead of actual sounds?02:02
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odinCan I post a one-line error message here?  I'm trying to figure out what it means02:03
mjg59Hi - I'm trying to track down what I think is a Dell BIOS bug, but I need some more details before I email them (this is for the laptop testing team)02:03
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mjg59So could anyone here with a Dell laptop with Intel graphics do a quick test? Press ctrl+alt+f1, close the lid, open the lid. Wait a second. Does the backlight switch back on? If not, let me know what model Dell you have (ctrl+alt+f7 should get the screen back)02:04
rraajjodin: I guess 1-liners are acceptable. :)02:04
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frejhmm, is anyone having problems with epiphany? (dapper)02:04
odinxine: h264.c:2545: fill_default_ref_list: Assertion `best_i != -1' failed.02:05
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odinAny ideas what that means?  The file works with mplayer, but not xine...but I don't really like mplayer02:05
frejfirefox works fine, but epiphany complains that it can't initialize mozilla (firefox)02:05
Ngodin: you get that sometimes unfortunately - mplayer tends to be more robust with unusual/broken files. The only option really is to transcode the file02:06
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odinNg, thanks...I don't want to go to all that work.02:07
soldieruk400amurak sounds good02:07
Ngodin: entirely understandable :)02:07
odinIs there a way to change the keyboard shortcuts in mplayer to make it like xine?02:07
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soldieruk400cant install it though lol02:07
mjg59Nobody here has a Dell laptop with Intel graphics?02:07
Ngodin: if there is you'd have to do it by hand. You could try gmplayer - it's not a nice interface, but at least it is an interface ;)02:08
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thoreauputic!tell soldier about repos02:08
soldieruk400im using a toshiba sat 10 laptop02:09
odinNg, I guess I'll go google and find out about shortcuts...  Hopefully it can be done by a config...I don't have the time or the concern to edit source.02:09
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londonboi2k3 A little quite round here today02:15
Subhumantimezones for ya02:15
thoreauputiclondonboi2k3: probably everyone is Christmas shopping ;)02:15
Subhumanim guessing by the name ure uk like me.02:15
londonboi2k3yeah true02:15
Subhumandone all mine yesterday :P02:16
londonboi2k3hmm, wish I ws xmas shopping, but I am stuck in work02:16
Subhumani hate doing it any later than this, its too hectic02:16
NgI'd much rather be in the office than shopping02:17
Ng*shudder*02:17
londonboi2k3Well theres a new argos advert out, what does it say?? Ah, Dont shop for it Argos it ;)02:17
londonboi2k3Play on the Google think me thinks02:17
Subhumanlol, well i just "fireboxed" it :P02:17
londonboi2k3:)02:17
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Fujoorhey guys, when i try to install ubuntu on lowram computer it hangs up and says "killed" the whole time02:19
Fujoorit hangs up when it says "md-modules-2.6 12-9-386-di02:20
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Nghow much ram does it have?02:20
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Seveasand how much swap?02:20
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NgSeveas: I;d guess 0, since he's installing02:20
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Fujoorless then 64, it has 32, i know its suppose to have 64, and it only needs it for the installation, afterwards it doesnt02:21
Fujoori only want it in x mode02:21
Fujoorisnt there some way around this02:21
Ngyes, more RAM ;)02:21
gnomefreakFujoor,  you installing it on a pc with 32mb ram?02:22
Seveas32mb ram is not supported02:22
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Fujoorits an antique of mine02:22
Ngyou ought to be able to dig up a 64mb SIMM or whatever for pennies these days02:23
gnomefreakFujoor,  the other day we asked you too look into damnsmalllinux02:23
Fujoordsl works on it, but it has too many issues with the soundcard and wlan02:23
Fujoori have spent two days trying to fix the wlan, just doesnt work, so i want to give ubuntu another try02:23
mjg59Fujoor: There is no way to install Ubuntu on a machine with 32MB of RAM right now02:23
Ngmjg59: to be fair, there probably is02:24
Nghe could debootstrap it02:24
Ngbut I don't really see any point ;)02:24
Fujoormjg59: i read about this guy on the forum who used a debian sarge install and then ubuntu over it02:24
Fujoorbut it seems messy02:24
gnomefreakwhat about basic server install?02:24
Fujoorgnome: thats what im trying to do02:24
gnomefreakno gui?02:24
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mjg59Ok, let me rephrase that. There's no way to use the Ubuntu installer in 32 MB of RAM right now.02:24
Ng:)02:25
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gnomefreakFujoor, im not sure thats why im asking if its possible02:25
Fujoorits the installer fault right, i bet it would work in x if you managed to go around the installer somehow02:25
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NgFujoor: look at using debootstrap if you really must, but rather than spending days trying to fix this, I would recommend you get more RAM02:25
mjg59Your alternatives are to add more RAM, install the disk in another machine and install it there or install it from another distribution02:25
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mjg59Actually, it /might/ just about be possible if you hack the installer root filesystem during install, skip the partitioner and start swap as early as possible02:26
gnomefreakNg, im not even sure his proccesser meets min req. for ubuntu its something like a 199mhz if i remember right02:26
Fujoorhmm im searching trough the forums, theres one guy who did a server-expert install and managed to do it02:26
mjg59gnomefreak: There's no actual minimum CPU requirement02:26
Nggnomefreak: that's largely irrelevant really02:26
Fujooroh mine is 199 mhz :)02:26
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gnomefreakoh ok sorry  guys i thought there was02:27
chaumurkyinteresting - the kernel is for 386 and up - but there's no 199MHz 386's.....02:27
Nggnomefreak: there are levels below which you're mad to try it, but in theory there's no actual lower limit - so long as your CPU ticks ;)02:27
Fujoorok you know what, ill try to server-expert install, if it doesnt work ill give this project up02:27
mjg59Except we probably don't support 386s02:27
chaumurkyjust an observation02:27
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nomedis there any boot option to switch of acpi ?02:28
gnomefreakchaumurky,  thats what i was thinking too but who knows02:28
mjg59nomed: acpi=off02:28
chaumurkyanother reason to release Ubuntu with the 686 optimized kernel02:28
nomeddoes it work even on installed system using initramfs ?02:28
mjg59nomed: Yes02:28
nomedk02:28
nomedthanks02:28
thoreauputicchaumurky: that cuts out things like P200 s (i586)02:28
nomedit ' s that i don't see it within initramfs scripts02:29
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mjg59nomed: It's a kernel option02:29
nomedk02:29
nomedthanks again :)02:29
mjg59chaumurky: There are plenty of fast CPUs that don't implement the full 686 instruction set02:29
bob832good morning all02:29
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chaumurkyI guess so.02:29
gnomefreakgm bob83202:29
anthonyhow do I install java-plugin for FireFox?02:29
Chousukechaumurky: the binaries probably *are* i686 optimised02:29
anthonyshould I just make a symolic link?02:29
mjg59K6s are 586s. VIAs only started supporting cmov recently.02:30
gnomefreakubotu tell anthony  about javadebs02:30
nomedmjg59, is there any kermel option to switch off DMA for IDE drives?02:30
thoreauputicchaumurky: I had breezy running on a P200 mmx , 64MB ram02:30
Chousukechaumurky: they've just been built to also support i38602:30
mjg59nomed: There is, but I couldn't tell you what off the top of my head02:30
shanonxvery impressed... just so you guys know.. Ubuntu hooked up to my Sony PSP just fine with 0 problems.02:30
chaumurkynice02:30
mjg59Yeah. We build a lot of stuff with instruction order optimised for newer processors, but only using instructions present in older ones02:30
nomedide=nodma .. can it be ?02:31
chaumurkyI get what you're saying02:31
chaumurky<thoreauputic> how'd it run - standard install?02:32
SeveasChousuke, actually 386 is not supported02:33
thoreauputicchaumurky: server install + fluxbox - it wasn't what you'd call quick, but quite usable02:33
Seveasthe 486 instruction set is used02:33
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thoreauputicchaumurky: I used light apps like sylpheed and alsaplayer etc02:33
ChousukeSeveas: Ah, right.02:33
ChousukeI was still in woody time02:33
chaumurkygotta duck out. seems nirc doesn't like tilda much :-)02:33
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gnomefreakfor some reason mine says its loading 686 when i boot up but my proc. is 450mhz :(02:34
thoreauputicchaumurky: it could run xfce4 OK too02:34
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thoreauputicgnomefreak: if it's pentium II or later it's 68602:34
mjg59gnomefreak: Uhm. That's not unsurprising - all Intelx at 450MHz were 686s02:34
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mjg59If you didn't have a 686, that kernel would crash02:35
chaumurkyugh...02:35
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gnomefreakoh ok ty02:35
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chaumurkyhehe02:36
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chaumurkyi'm quite impressed with naim.lightweight and I can ise it on my ssh terminal from work02:36
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chaumurky*use02:36
costahello02:36
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gnomefreakto use ssh server both pc's have to have ssh right?02:37
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shanonxanyone know what would make my gAim sounds not work? It uses the system beep...02:37
chaumurkyone server one client02:37
Rarjhi people. I heard debian cannot use ext3, is it the same with Ubuntu ?02:37
ilba7ris there a way to check which wirless driver version is installed for my wirless card02:37
chaumurkywrong02:37
MickMcMackDebian can't use ext3?02:37
MickMcMackO_o;;;;;;;;02:37
gnomefreakRarj, ubuntu uses ext302:37
flodinelittle help please02:38
gnomefreakMickMcMack, sarge uses ext202:38
Rarjok thanks :)02:38
gnomefreaksid uses ext3 lat i remember02:38
MickMcMackThere's a difference between uses and cannot use.02:38
hmpedersenafternoon02:38
thoreauputicMickMcMack: sure it can - you just use tune2fs -j from memory02:38
costahow can i check the details of my connection? (speed, time, etc)02:38
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Dr_Acemasteris there a file similar to the hosts file in windows that I could use to block ads in webpages?02:38
MickMcMackthoreauputic, I know it can; I couldn't actually believe someone said it couldn't. -_-02:39
bigfoot1how can i install Java (java runtime environment) for firefox 1.5?02:39
gnomefreakwell thats just like sarge uses 2.4 kernel but can use use 2.6 if you wanted02:39
thoreauputicMickMcMack: ext3 is just ext2 with a journal added02:39
ilba7r!java02:39
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs02:39
gnomefreakubotu tell bigfoot1 about javadebs02:39
thoreauputicMickMcMack: ah I see :)02:39
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qt2ubotu, tell me about gtk+02:40
qt2ubotu, tell me about gtk02:40
qt2:/02:40
gnomefreakubotu tell qt2 about yourself02:40
gnomefreak!botsnack02:40
bigfoot1gnomefreak, which deb should i get?02:40
ubotu:)02:40
flodinei installed artwiz fonts with synaptic but still cant see them why is breezy diffrent then hoary?02:40
ilba7rcosta check the package gtkwifi02:40
bigfoot1ilba7r, which deb shoudl i get?02:41
qt2gnomefreak, i know what ubotu is. ;)02:41
costathanks ilba7r02:41
lockheadhow do i change from utf8 to iso?02:41
gnomefreakqt2, the site tells you commands02:41
ilba7rbigfoot1 i do not understand02:41
qt2gnomefreak, i know.02:41
bigfoot1which deb from http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/ should i get?02:41
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_jasonbigfoot1, do you just want the java jre?02:41
ilba7rcosta also if you use gnome add network manager to your panel it will give you this information02:41
bigfoot1which java deb02:41
gnomefreakbigfoot1, im not looking at it but it would be 1.5 maybe 3rd from top02:41
bigfoot1_jason, what else should i want?02:41
qt2gnomefreak, my command worked fine o.O;02:41
bigfoot1_jason, should i want anything else?02:42
bigfoot1_jason, i'm a newbie/dummy02:42
_jasonbigfoot1, if you just want to use flash the one that says jre and 1.5 should suffice02:42
qt2gnomefreak, ubotu just doesn't know about gtk/gtk+02:42
_jasonbigfoot1, arg i mean java02:42
qt2so yeah, can anyone reccmend me a good gtk/gtk+ ide?02:42
ilba7rbigfoot1 blackdown java is good. But the best is sun java02:42
gnomefreakqt2,  ubotu doesnt know the command me02:42
gnomefreak!gtk02:43
ubotugnomefreak: I haven't a clue02:43
gnomefreak!gtk202:43
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qt2 <qt2> ubotu, tell me about gtk+02:43
qt2 <*ubotu*> i dunno what is 'gtk+'.02:43
ubotugnomefreak: Are you smoking crack?02:43
qt2yes it does.02:43
qt2o.o;02:43
bigfoot1so on http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/ is the deb for me the 4th from the bottom (http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb)02:43
gnomefreakwhen did someone teach him me?02:43
ilba7rqt2 your best bet is serching synaptic02:43
thoreauputicbigfoot1: that will work fine02:44
_jasongnomefreak, that's been there since I joined this channel in september I think02:44
MickMcMack!ask protocol02:44
ubotuI haven't a clue, MickMcMack02:44
MickMcMack:(02:44
qt2ilba7r, planned on it, was just looking for reccomendations ;)02:44
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ilba7rqt2 what is ide?02:44
bigfoot1thoreauputic, when you say it will work fine, do you mean that it's the best option ?02:44
gnomefreak_jason, it never worked before for me :(02:44
bigfoot1thoreauputic, fine=best?02:44
_jasonbigfoot1, yes :)02:44
qt2gnomefreak, has been able to use it for a long while :o02:44
gnomefreakthats why they tell you to /msg him i thought02:44
thoreauputicbigfoot1: when you have it, cd to the directory   and type  sudo dpkg -i sun-<hit tab>02:44
qt2ilba7r, integrated development enviroment.02:44
bigfoot1thoreauputic, thank you!!!02:45
Swearingenis archives.ubuntu.com not proxy friendly?02:45
_jasongnomefreak, that's so the channel doesn;t get spammed probably02:45
bigfoot1_jason, thank you 202:45
thoreauputicbigfoot1: there is a slightly more recent one, but I'm using that version02:45
gnomefreak_jason, oh ok02:45
bigfoot1ilba7r, thank you 302:45
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ilba7rqt2 kdevelop is quite good my first choice but since i am gnome i use anjuta02:45
_jasonbigfoot1, yw 202:45
MickMcMackIsn't there a sun java package?02:45
ilba7rqt2 if you do lot of programing in python i recommend spe02:45
bigfoot1thoreauputic, i want the latest. or i should ask, isn't that latest version better?02:45
qt2ilba7r, i lan on doing a gtk interface for already existing c.02:46
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thoreauputicbigfoot1: I don't have it so i don't know - but it's only one minor  revision newer02:46
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bigfoot1thoreauputic, ok.02:46
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fawzui have an sound and graphics porblems on my acer travelmate 4060, were can i find help?02:46
bigfoot1i won't bother with that latest version then, unless someone can give me good reason to.02:46
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ilba7rqt2 my first choice will be kde. But if running gnome only like me anjuta02:47
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ilba7rsorry qt2 kdevelop02:47
shanonxwhat is a good programming language to start learning in ?02:48
Dr_Acemasterenglish02:48
ilba7rso anyone know how i can find the installed version of my ipw2200 wirless driver?02:48
bigfoot1can i delete the .deb after doing "sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb "?02:48
MickMcMackJava. \o/02:48
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fawzuSeveas, i have an sound and graphics problems on my acer travelmate 4060, were can i find help?02:48
Astxistheh java02:48
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shanonxMickMcMack : seriously?02:48
MickMcMackshanonx, it depends what you are learning for.02:48
lfopshanonx, maybe C ?02:48
rosenC64 ... Basic !02:49
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thoreauputicbigfoot1: assuming it installs without errors, yes :)02:49
MickMcMackLearn ARM ASM!02:49
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fawzuhow can i configure x11 to support widescreen?02:49
ilba7rshanonx if you program to post on the web then java my first choice even if you do not plan to post on the web. I found python easiest02:49
lfopwhat X-server do you prefer? xorg or xfree86, is ubuntu able to run both?02:50
bigfoot1i got: "Preparing to replace sun-j2re1.5 1.5.0+update04 (using sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb) ...02:50
bigfoot1"     Is this okay?+02:50
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fawzuxfree8602:50
bigfoot1In firefox, I went to a webpage that uses java, but it's still telling me that I'm missing the plugin. help02:50
thoreauputiclfop: ubuntu uses xoeg02:51
thoreauputic*xorg02:51
lfopyep.02:51
thoreauputicbigfoot1: yes02:51
bigfoot1i already closed and then re-opened firefox. why won't java work?02:51
lfopfawzu, you use xfree86 in ubuntu?02:51
thoreauputicbigfoot1: run update-alternatives --config java02:51
thoreauputicbigfoot1: and select the sun version02:51
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fawzuno no i mean xorg02:52
lfophehe k02:52
ilba7roh thoreauputic there is a script for it now good02:52
thoreauputicyup02:52
thoreauputicbigfoot1: got that ?02:52
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bigfoot1thoreauputic, i have 2 sun options. please see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d565702:53
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fawzuhow do i configure xorg?02:53
teroednisudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:53
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fawzuthat file was empty!!02:54
bigfoot1thoreauputic, and it looks like one of the java options is what is currently selected.02:55
gnomefreakfawzu,  try  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:55
Happuffawzu: be sure you but X, not x.02:55
teroednifawzu are you in console?02:55
thoreauputicbigfoot1: did you install the sdk as well as the jre ?02:55
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bob832(sigh), drawing a blank here, whats the keyboard shortcut to open a terminal?02:56
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thoreauputicbigfoot1: you only need the sdk for programming02:56
gnomefreakctrl+F2 i think02:56
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bigfoot1thoreauputic, well, in this hour, i installed only http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb. I might have installed sdk in the past, but I'm not sure.02:56
teroednifawzu when your in console it is02:57
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thoreauputicbigfoot1: select the jre then - you don't need the sdk unless you plan to write stuff in java02:57
teroednisudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:57
rosenis there some way to see the 'history' in my terminal after I close it ?02:57
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rosena log or something02:57
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bungleYou will be the last person to buy a Chrysler.02:57
bungleYou will be winged by an anti-aircraft battery.02:57
thoreauputicrosen:  type "history" in a term, funnily enough :)02:58
bigfoot1thoreauputic,  i get an error message when i select jre. please see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d565902:58
Amaranthbungle: Say something that makes me think you aren't a bot.02:58
bigfoot1thoreauputic, can you get that history with a date-time stamp?02:59
rosenthoreauputic, dont make me blush like that02:59
triple5hi marky, how is your ubuntu experience...?02:59
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thoreauputicbigfoot1: type sudo  before the update-alternatives command02:59
markyvery good02:59
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thoreauputicbigfoot1: it needs superuser rights to make the symlink - sorry I should have mentioned that03:00
bigfoot1thoreauputic, ok. putting sudo gets rid of error. but firefox still won't show java webpages.03:00
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thoreauputicbigfoot1: and you restarted firefox?03:01
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bigfoot1thoreauputic, yes. i closed it and reopened it.03:01
bunglesorry Amaranth lol03:01
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thoreauputicbigfoot1: only thing I can think of is the plugin links are misconfigured03:01
bigfoot1thoreauputic, how do i fix these plugin links?03:01
ilba7rbigfoot1 can you first type java in a terminal to see if you have working java first03:02
rosenis there someone here I can paste an errorlog too that could give me some assistance.. it's something with libxml-libxml-perl03:02
thoreauputicbigfoot1: first type  " about:plugins " in firefox to see what ff thinks you have03:02
gnomefreakbigfoot1,  type in terminal java -version make sure its using the right one03:02
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flodinedoes anyone got the command to get artwiz font to work in aterm03:03
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bigfoot1thoreauputic, results of typing "java" at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d566003:03
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flodinetheres got to be someone who can help me03:04
bigfoot1thoreauputic, java -version results at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d566103:04
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bigfoot1thoreauputic, about:plugins result at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d566203:05
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thoreauputicbigfoot1: umm03:05
triple5oops03:05
thoreauputicbigfoot1: your last pastebin is a sources list... ?03:05
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triple5did you all see that banlist stuff?03:05
bigfoot1thoreauputic, my last pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5662 <--- plugins03:06
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qt2ilba7r, GTK+ is a multi-platform toolkit for creating graphical user interfaces.03:06
bigfoot1thoreauputic, please doublecheck03:06
gnomefreaki didnt see java in there at all :(03:06
thoreauputicbigfoot1: evidently FF can't see your java03:06
bigfoot1thoreauputic, hmmm, can we fix that03:07
bigfoot1.?03:07
ilba7rqt2 i have no experience in creating gui with gtk+ or for linux03:07
qt2ilba7r, if you're interested, you can find out more @ http://www.gtk.org/03:08
Moorenkopfwhich package do I need to get the mysqllibaries (f.e. /usr/include/mysql/mysql.h) aside from mysql-server. I'm really getting confused considering all those aptitude results for mysql03:08
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ilba7rthanx qt203:09
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wikbigfoot1, there is a plugin package for ff.  Did you try that?03:09
gnomefreakbigfoot1,  houmer me please and close all open windows that would have to do with firefox03:09
thoreauputicbigfoot1:  sudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so ~/.mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin.so03:09
bigfoot1gnomefreak, all open windows of fx are now closed03:10
gnomefreakopen a ff  now03:10
bigfoot1wik,  haven't tried any Java plugin package for fx.03:10
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sickdudehi all03:10
sickdude:)03:10
gnomefreakhi sickdude03:10
sickdudehows life in here?03:11
bigfoot1thoreauputic, i get an error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d566303:11
thoreauputicbigfoot1: the command I gave should link your plugin for your user03:11
bigfoot1thoreauputic, granted, "it should" but i get an error. please see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d566303:12
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triple5Moorenkopf: maybe you just have to install mysql-server and mysql-client, I also recomment phpmyadmin for example03:12
Moorenkopftriple5: did so, exept from phpmyadmin03:12
wikbigfoot1, I was not paying attention to what you two all have tried, but I just set my laptop up this morning for a java plugin03:12
triple5what do you need the libraries for?03:12
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thoreauputicbigfoot1: yes I looked :) Possibly the installation is different on your machine03:13
triple5Moorenkopf?03:13
wiksudo apt-get install j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin03:13
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rockyhey can anyone help me with audacity03:13
Moorenkopftriple5: c-api03:13
triple5oh03:13
_jasonrocky, what's the problem03:13
gnomefreakbigfoot1, you are using FF1.5?03:13
triple5Moorenkopf: why dont you try to search the packages for the library, I thought there is also a mysql package for c-api...03:14
thoreauputicbigfoot1: It's 1:15 AM and I have to sleep somr time - hope you get th link from someone that works for you03:14
rockywen i start it i get a message saying theres a prob with the i/o device so i cant record or play03:14
Moorenkopfwell, I found a page telling me there are 3 packages containing these files :)03:14
triple5hhmm03:14
thompamy laptop still wont reboot03:14
ilba7rthoreauptic i guess the plugin is at /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns703:14
thompanot a big deal03:14
qt2hm... doesn't gnome use gtk/gtk+ for its interface?03:14
thompabut i am concerend as ubuntu is the only distro that does not reboot03:14
sickdudedoes anybody know a way to delete files that i scp'd to another machine?03:15
sickdudeconnection gets lost for a sec and scp gets killed by this03:15
sickdudescp cant resume :(03:15
_jasonsickdude, ssh and then rm?03:15
Moorenkopftriple5: try 'n' error might be the solution, I'll give it a try ^^03:15
triple5and err...03:15
sickdudei just want to delete the files that scp sent over03:15
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gnomefreakfor some reason the javadeb doesnt link to your firefox 1.5 just noticed i have same problem i will let you know what fixes it :(03:15
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_jasonbigfoot1, what's the problem with java?03:16
rocky_jason, got any clue wat the prob cud b03:16
bigfoot1gnomefreak, yes i am using ff 1.503:16
gnomefreak_jason,  same thing i just typed03:16
gnomefreaki know bigfoot1  Ill look for a fix03:16
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triple5I have firefox with Java plugins working...03:16
bigfoot1_jason, i'm trying to get java to work with fx 1.503:16
triple5firefox 1.503:16
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kyncanisickdude: either ssh and rm the files as _jason told you, or scp again, this will overwrite the previously transferred files03:17
rockyheeellllllloooo anyone03:17
_jasonrocky, 'killall esd' before you use audacity.  I think that limits your functionality but it's the only thing I've seen to fix it03:17
hmpedersenId wish, i could get wine to work..03:17
rockyk thnx03:17
gnomefreaktriple5,  the java.debs dont link to FF1.503:17
hmpederseni wana play gta now..03:17
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sickdudeaha well im trying this but when im sending 50 gig it isnt really an option ;)03:17
triple5you have to install it from source I think...03:17
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triple5when you are in firefox and you go to a site with a java app click on the link to install,03:17
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rocky_jason, ur right man03:17
rocky_jason, thnx man03:18
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guillem101Anyone has experience with video recorders? I'm planning to record my kids, and I guess if a mini-dv camera is what I want. How can I pass from mini-dv to DVD using ubuntu?03:18
qt2ilba7r,  Anjuta supports gtk+ ;)03:18
_jasonbigfoot1, ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin.so /opt/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so03:19
ilba7ri guess so let me check03:19
_jasonbigfoot1, sudo that03:19
ilba7rmodt ide do03:19
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ilba7rmost sorry03:19
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qt2ilba7r, i wasnt asking, i was telling you :P03:19
_jasonrocky, yw03:19
ilba7roh cool03:19
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bigfoot1_jason, ok did that line, but java still ain't working yet03:20
_jasonbigfoot1, did you close firefox and restart it?03:20
ilba7ri guess anjuta is ok but i just do not like the fact i can not run python script directly. I can write the file but not run the script03:20
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zelevwhi guys...whats a good program for converting mp3 to wav?  thanks!03:20
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rosen24hours with linux so far... and my computer still havent been thrown out the window... I guess Ubuntu did better than the other distros I've tried ;)03:20
Moorenkopfzelevw: lame / mlame03:21
zelevwmoorenkpf: thanks03:21
hmpedersenAnyone know why i have no way of getting skype to work?03:21
Moorenkopftriple5: got it :)03:21
triple5sickdude: sending 50gig on scp isn't such a good idea on a bad connection...03:22
lfophow does linux handle physical memory in compare to windows? so far ive understand it does handle the RAM different. but not how.03:22
rosenhmpedersen, it takes a while to load up for some reason ... well it does here03:22
triple5Moorenkopf, cool, (gibts eigentlich auch ubuntu-de>?)03:22
triple5!de03:22
ubotufrom memory, de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de03:22
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hmpedersenrosen, thats not what i mean.. when making a call it shuts sound on the computer untill i exit skype..03:22
siriusnovahi03:22
gnomefreakok bigfoot03:23
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siriusnovahow do I allow myself to ssh into my Ubuntu laptop?03:23
hav0kwhat's ssh?03:23
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rosenhmpedersen, I cannot run any other audio-programs while using skype ... could be linked to that problem03:23
Moorenkopftriple5: keine Ahnung, benutze Ubuntu nur auf meinem laptop und den warte ich kaum.03:23
sickdudetriple5, well what other options do you suggest? ftp is slower that scp, right?03:23
_jasonubotu, tell siriusnova about ssh03:23
rosenhmpedersen, you dont have some midiplayer running ?03:23
gnomefreakdo not copy and paste what he gave you type it in as typed add sudo before it and it will work03:23
_jasonubotu, tell hav0k about ssh03:23
melonipoikahi, i can't open synaptic, how can i see what is wrong to try to change it?03:23
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hmpedersenrosen, i only have skype, xchat and gaim running..03:24
kyncani!tell lfop about memory03:24
hmpedersenrosen, mostly when attempting to make calls, i have nuffin but skype runnin03:24
rosenhmpedersen, hmm s kan jeg vist ikke hjlpe dig :(03:24
MickMcMackFree memory is wasted memory!03:24
gnomefreak_jason,  i dont know why copy and paste didnt work but i typed what you gave and it worked03:24
triple5sickdude I think there is a program that picks up interrupted transfers also with scp03:24
_jasongnomefreak, lol weird ok thanks for verifying it03:24
DarkOraanyone famalier with proftpd?03:25
rosenhmpedersen, I only got linux installed yesterday so I'm no shark ... just going by my own (limited) experiences ;)03:25
sickdudetriple5, well that sounds promissing, do you know what its called?03:25
triple5sickdude: or you chop up the package sounds like a very big thing, is that an iso?03:25
siriusnovahey guys Ive enabled all the repositories in the Add Applications app, are there more for like Skype and stuff?03:25
sickdudenow its a homedir03:25
gnomefreak_jason, maybe an extra space cause i did sudo<space> than pasted it03:25
_jasongnomefreak, maybe03:25
gnomefreakbigfoot1,  you still here?03:25
sickdudenow-w03:25
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bigfoot1yes03:26
gnomefreakbigfoot1,  did it work?03:26
sickdudetriple5, lol dont worry dude03:26
sickdude:-)03:26
siriusnovaanyone know how I can install Skype? is there a repository or something?03:26
sickdudeskype.com?03:26
ilba7r!skype03:26
_jasonubotu, tell sirexas about skype03:26
ubotuhmm... skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl03:26
melonipoikasiriusnova, check automatix03:26
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_jasonarg sorry sirexas03:27
bigfoot1gnomefreak, please hold on. i'm busy now03:27
siriusnovawhat is automatix ?03:27
triple5sickdude: I found this on google: rsync --partial host:/path/to/file .03:27
_jasonubotu, tell siriusnova about skype03:27
gnomefreakubotu tell siriusdude about skype03:27
siriusnovaim newb when it comes to Ubuntu03:27
hav0khey, i got an easy question.  how can i change it so on the windows the close min and max buttons are on the left instead of the right?03:27
gnomefreakoops03:27
hmpedersenDoes anybody know how to get the seveas repositories to work with apt-get?03:27
gnomefreaksorry who ever i just sent that too :(03:27
_jasongnomefreak, lol everyone will know about skype soon03:27
melonipoikais tehre any log where i can read if there was any error? i'm trying to open synapctic but it doens' start03:28
gnomefreak_jason,  my tab like never works anymore03:28
triple5hmpedersen: enter the addresses into your apt/sources.list03:28
_jasonhmpedersen, read the home page of seveas' repo03:28
bigfoot1gnomefreak, sorry i was on the phone.03:28
melonipoikaand then i can't use apt-get because it can't block something...03:28
gnomefreakits ok bigfoot1  your fix for it if you like03:28
bigfoot1_jason, yes i did close and restart firefox03:28
triple5melonipoika: can you sudo?03:28
sickdudetriple5, hmm looks good im going to take a read at it and we will see03:28
sickdudethnx in advance03:28
hmpedersentriple, then? I tried for ages last night to get the key added to apt-key03:28
DarkOrawhen i try to access /etc/proftpd.conf as root it gives me permission denied03:28
bigfoot1gnomefreak, okay i'm free now03:28
gnomefreakbigfoot1,  here ill give you the fix03:28
melonipoikayes03:28
bigfoot1gnomefreak, ok.03:29
bigfoot1gnomefreak, i'm all ears03:29
lfopthanks kyncani, alot of good info at  http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management03:29
gnomefreakpaste this as is in terminal bigfoot103:29
gnomefreaksudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin.so /opt/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so03:29
triple5sickdude: my google query was: interrupted scp transfer               the first result...03:29
hav0kdoes anyone know how to switch the close, min, and max buttons from the right to the left on the windows?03:29
bigfoot1gnomefreak, ln: `/opt/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so': File exists03:29
gnomefreakgood03:29
melonipoikatriple5, yes, i can sudo, what should i do?03:29
triple5melonipoika: what happens?03:29
gnomefreakbigfoot1,  close FF and ill give you a site to test it03:30
bigfoot1gnomefreak, ok03:30
bigfoot1ff is now closed, gnomefreak03:30
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melonipoikatriple5, what do you mean?03:30
triple5if you are doing that03:30
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gnomefreakbigfoot1,  go here look at bottom http://www.freewebs.com/joeboxernc/feedback.htm03:30
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siriusnovahey guys should I use this? http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl03:30
siriusnovaare there more repositories or is that it?03:31
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melonipoikatriple5, sorry, i don't understand, sudo is to get root privileges, isn't it?03:31
_jasonubotu, tell siriusnova about easysource03:31
gnomefreaktheres a chat room writen in java at bottom let me know if you see it03:31
triple5melonipoika: could you ever sudo apt-get03:31
bigfoot1gnomefreak, i'm on that page, but the java "webschat" isn't workning03:31
triple5melonipoika: yes03:31
gnomefreakbigfoot1,  what is it doing?03:31
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triple5melonipoika: but all your posting suggests that sudo doesn't work for you..03:31
melonipoikayes, it does03:32
bigfoot1gnomefreak, is just has that green puzzle piece with the words "click here to download plugin"03:32
gnomefreakhmmmmmmmmm03:32
valleraHello every body can someone help me03:32
gnomefreakit worked for me03:32
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melonipoikai mean that i can run apt-get after trying to open synaptic03:32
bigfoot1gnomefreak, maybe the link is not what it should be?03:32
hmpedersentriple5, perhaps u could help me? i am not able to add the key into trusted list..03:32
_jasonbigfoot1, do 'sudo update-alternatives --config java' and make sure j2re1.5-sun is chosen03:32
bigfoot1gnomefreak, that's just a guess03:32
melonipoikabut synaptic is not opening either03:32
triple5melonipoika: but it doesnt work on apt-get and on synaptic03:32
melonipoikaapt-get works, but not synaptic03:33
triple5melonipoika: sudo apt-get works?03:33
megwho is expert in ubuntu to ask him something?03:33
gnomefreakmelonipoika,  type sudo synaptic in terminal lets see if it open than03:33
melonipoikaok03:33
triple5WE ARE ALL HERE TO HELP03:33
_jasonmeg, you can just ask, if someone knows they will try to help you03:34
gnomefreakmeg,  ask in rooma nd someone will help you if they can :)03:34
melonipoikatriple5, gtk-critical03:34
gnomefreak_jason,  is too smart :(03:34
triple5I love ubuntu community03:34
gnomefreaklol03:34
melonipoikashould i paste the error?03:34
triple5paste in in pastebin03:34
siriusnovaokay now that I have my sources.list - what do i do with it? Im sorry for being an idiot im used to FreeBSD not Linux :/03:34
gnomefreakmelonipoika,  in pastebin03:34
triple5!pastebin03:34
ubotuwell, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org03:34
_jasongnomefreak, ha hang around here more often03:35
melonipoikawhat is pastebin?03:35
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gnomefreaklol _jason03:35
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gnomefreakubotu tell melonipoika  about pastebin03:35
vallerahow can i access my 2nd hdd ? it is listed in /dev but not on the desktop and it is NTFS03:35
megI know that you will find it a stupid question but as I am a new user in Linux I am trying to find a way to get the details of my connection03:35
gnomefreakmelonipoika,  read the pm you got from ubotu03:35
melonipoikathanks03:35
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bigfoot1_jason, I DID choose *     2        /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/bin/java03:35
_jasonbigfoot1, and after restarting firefox it still does not work?  (make sure you close all firefox windows)03:36
bigfoot1_jason, yes03:36
_jasonbigfoot1, alright let me go scour the forums03:36
siriusnovaoh and does Sources.list work with the "Add Applications" App?03:36
melonipoikahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/566403:36
bigfoot1_jason, actually, that java option was already selected. I just chose it again!03:36
megsomeone told me to check the network manager but I dont have it in my system03:37
siriusnovagah i feel so stupid03:37
siriusnova:(03:37
_jasonmeg, ifconfig03:37
bigfoot1_jason, it was what was being used already. does this make sense03:37
flodineive been asking for help with fonts and no help in this room.i guess im asking the wrong guys03:37
_jasonbigfoot1, yeah, just means that wasn't the problem :)03:37
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bigfoot1_jason, i see03:37
siriusnovaubotu tell siriusnova about sources.list03:37
_jasonubotu, tell flodine about fonts03:37
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rosenmeg, System --> Administration --> network03:38
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triple5well melonipoika, I have seen, but no idea...03:38
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melonipoikaok...03:38
hmpedersen_jason, u can help me get the seveas key to trusted db?03:38
melonipoikahow can i undo when i install new softawe?03:38
siriusnovaumm anyone want to help me with my sources.list?03:38
triple5melonipoika, did you google that error message?03:38
_jasonhmpedersen, the command is on the seveas's repo homepage, it's just coppy and paste03:38
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_jason!anyone03:39
melonipoikano, but i guess that the problem was the last softawer i installed03:39
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>03:39
hmpedersen_jason, yeah.. and i spent about all night doing it over and over.. never worked..03:39
siriusnovawell okay - now that I have my sources.list from the source-o-matic, what do I do with it?03:39
siriusnovaim sorry if i sound like an idiot, im not used to Linux, im a FreeBSD guy :/03:39
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megjason and rosen I did whatever you told me but I still cant see the login time and the speed03:40
witekjl03:40
_jasonsirexas, backup /etc/apt/sources.list and replace it with your new one, then sudo apt-get update03:40
melonipoikaok, no results in google for my error03:40
siriusnova_jason - and then I can add apps using the "Add Applications" app?03:40
gnomefreak_jason, theres a new sources.list?03:40
triple5melonipoika: how to other sudo prgramms work? did you try sudo users-admin?03:41
_jasonsiriusnova, well you can always add apps with it right?  Use synaptic, it's better.  What are you trying to add?03:41
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melonipoikayes, it works03:41
_jasongnomefreak, siriusnova created a new one with source-o-matic03:41
triple5hhmm03:41
gnomefreaksweet triple5  i didnt know that03:41
siriusnova_jason - nothing specific, just tryint to set up Ubuntu so I can add the most amount of apps possible03:41
melonipoikatriple5, is there any way to undo software instalation?03:41
siriusnovaso I have the most choice03:42
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melonipoikai updated to firefox 1.5 using the dapper repositories03:42
_jasonsiriusnova, use synaptic then, add apps won't show you everything03:42
melonipoikaand i think that it affected to some libraries03:42
siriusnova_jason - oh okay thx03:42
christianphi all03:42
melonipoikaand when i went back to breezy in the sources.list, i couldn't open synaptic anymore03:42
lfopwhat big changes will there be in dapper?03:43
_jasonhmpedersen, which part of seveas' repo is giving you trouble03:43
triple5melonipoika: have you tried apt-get install synaptic?03:43
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melonipoikayes, it said that it is installed in the last version03:43
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melonipoikai unisntalled it and reisntall, but still not working...03:43
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triple5good03:43
hmpedersen_jason, "sudo apt-key add -"03:44
_jasonbigfoot1, still around?03:44
bigfoot1_jason, yes sire03:44
melonipoikais it possible to use the installation disk to rescue it?03:44
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melonipoikai am tired to reinstall ubuntu each time i do something wrong :(03:44
christianpOT question: once i find a link of a site in which i could find old versions of sites, but now i can't remember the url. Can anyone help me?03:44
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_jasonbigfoot1, sudo rm /opt/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so03:45
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frogfootfrogfoot?03:45
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bigfoot1_jason, done03:45
_jasonhmpedersen, that's one line all at once: gpg --export --armor 1135D466 | sudo apt-key add -03:45
triple5melonipoika: no need to re-install... I have the same error messages when i sudo synaptic from a terminal, but it works.03:45
rosenCan't locate object method "save_parsers_debian" via package "XML::SAX" at /usr/ bin/update-perl-sax-parsers line 90.03:46
rosen ... I get this error message when I try to $sudo apt-get upgrade.. Any idea what it means ?03:46
wildmanchristianp: www.archive.org ?03:46
melonipoikaok, but i can't open it, i have tryed to reboot, but nothing...03:46
hmpedersen_jason, ahh.. thanx..03:46
wildmanchristianp: or google for 'web time machine'03:46
rosenit's just the first in a long line of errormessages though03:46
triple5nmelonipoika: ow it could be that there is a problem somewhere else. I see the last part of the error might be the problem03:46
christianpwildman thanks03:46
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wildmanchristianp: welcomed03:47
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_jasonbigfoot1, ll /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so <- what does that return03:47
_jasonbigfoot1, sorry not 'll' use ls -l03:47
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shanonxcan anyone tell me of a good plugin for firefox to allow .wmv to be played?03:48
melonipoikabut isn't it possible to undo whe?n installing packages03:48
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_Gray_shanonx: MediaPlayerConnectivity03:48
bigfoot1_jason,  -rw-r--r--  1 root root 135084 2005-06-03 20:52 /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so03:48
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triple5melonipoika: if you have  a back up03:48
rockym not gettin offline message wen m usin yahoo thru gaim. How do i enable it??03:48
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frogfootI installed a bunch of packages yesterday but there not in my xfce menu?03:48
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melonipoikano :)03:48
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_jasonbigfoot1, sudo ln -s /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /opt/firefox/plugins03:48
shanonx_gray_: any idea how to un-install the Mplayer plugin?03:49
gnomefreak_jason,  the cipherfunk repo  can i get a gpg key for it at all?03:49
_jasongnomefreak, no idea03:49
bigfoot1_jason, done, sir.03:49
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melonipoikabut is there a list of last added packages or something like that so i can remove then manually?03:49
aethera-VS-workhey guys03:49
triple5bigfoot1: you still don't have the java plugin working?03:49
_jasonbigfoot1, try now and cross your fingers :)03:49
megjason how can i check the login time in internet?03:49
_Gray_shanonx:  sudo atp-get remove mozilla-mplayer03:49
aethera-VS-workanyone here got experience in wifi cards?03:49
_Gray_apt-get*03:49
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frogfootHey anybody got cable that wants to send me some mp3s to jam too?03:50
shanonx_gray_: then sudo apt-get install mozilla-MediaPlayerConnectivity?03:50
triple5melonipoika: It rather looks that the added files has changed some config file.03:50
bigfoot1_jason, i've got bad news and good news.03:50
_Gray_shanonx: get MediaPlayerConnectivity from the Firefox extensions page03:50
_jasonbigfoot1, uh oh03:50
melonipoikaok...03:50
rocky m not gettin offline message wen m usin yahoo thru gaim. How do i enable it??03:50
aethera-VS-workathereos wifi cards not functining in ubuntu?03:50
_Gray_shanonx: its a firefox extension not a package03:50
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shanonx_gray_: oh ok.. thanks, your a genius! :)03:50
bigfoot1_jason, the bad news: I didn't cross my fingers. good news. Java plugin works!!!!!!!!!!1 You are awesome. I'd write your referral to google03:51
bigfoot18-)03:51
triple5melonipoika: can you come to #ubuntuforums it is too busy here...03:51
_jasonbigfoot1, lol ok03:51
gnomefreaklol bigfoot103:51
melonipoikayes03:51
aethera-VS-work_Gray_ can you help a brother out?03:51
rocky_jason  m not gettin offline message wen m usin yahoo thru gaim. How do i enable it??03:51
_Gray_aethera-VS-work: ill try03:51
odinHow do I install an old version of GCC?  I need to make a kernel module and I don't want to recompile the kernel03:51
aethera-VS-work_Gray_ can I pm you03:51
bigfoot1gnomefreak, i was just taking a look at pics of googleplex. Looks like a fun place to work http://www.flickr.com/photos/martinvars/sets/1558898/03:51
_Gray_aethera-VS-work: yep03:51
_jasonrocky, I don;t know, I never used yahoo service with gaim03:52
rocky_jason kk thnx03:52
bigfoot1_jason thank you so much!03:52
frogfootHow can I watch my Divx  avi's ?03:52
rockybigfoot1  m not gettin offline message wen m usin yahoo thru gaim. How do i enable it??03:52
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_Gray_aethera-VS-work: do you have AIM?03:53
mjrubotu, tell frogfoot about restrictedformats03:53
_Gray_aethera-VS-work: i never seem to get pm to work03:53
aethera-VS-work_Gray_ I have msn03:53
bigfoot1The only thing now that will make my ubuntu life complete (or at least a whole lot better) is syncing my pda with ubuntu.03:53
_jasonbigfoot1, np, that solution isn't really the best though.  Your java in firefox will break when you install a new java because it will point to a different spot.  The previous method should have worked, I don't know why it wasn't :/03:53
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_Gray_aethera-VS-work: kk whats ur email?03:53
aethera-VS-work_Gray_ jeanre@weblife.co.za03:53
bigfoot1until then, i think I'll go back to paper (hipsterpda.com)03:53
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mjrfrogfoot, as a short summary; add the universe repository and sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg03:53
gnomefreakanyone know wth an oil error is? and is there a way to fix it?03:54
jendafrogfoot: you can try easy ubuntu - it will install the codecs for you.03:54
bigfoot1_jason, hmmmm03:54
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_jasonbigfoot1, there may be one other thing we can try, up for it?03:54
bigfoot1_jason sure. Teach me, teacher.03:54
frogfooteasy ubuntu?03:54
_jasonbigfoot1, ok get rid of that link we just made but save the command in case this doesn't work03:55
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bigfoot1_jason, you've got to kindly tell me how to delete that link. i have no idea03:55
_jasonbigfoot1, first: ls /opt/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so03:55
bigfoot1_jason, ls /opt/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so03:56
bigfoot1_jason, sorry: /opt/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so03:56
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_Gray_aethera-VS-work: you on msn yet?03:56
_jasonbigfoot1, ok before we delete let's check to make sure the other one is ok: ls /etc/alternatives/mozilla-javaplugin.so03:56
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_jasonbigfoot1, does that return anything?03:57
seliniumHi all, is there a make file command line similar to mkdir?03:57
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bigfoot1_jason, no. nothing03:57
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psycodehow do i erase a dvdrw from the terminal?03:57
_jasonbigfoot1, ok well that's why it wasn't working hrmm03:57
bigfoot1_jason, you found the problem?03:57
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jendafrogfoot: Yes. The newest version is http://www.giannaros.org/buntu/easybreezy0.33-alpha.tar.gz - and don't mind the different name, it has just changed :)03:58
chrisx1anyone help me with webmin?03:58
seliniumcafuego, good to see the bot back! :)03:58
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jendafrogfoot: Check out easybreezy.robotgeek.org if you have PPC or AMD6403:58
_jasonbigfoot1, ls -l /etc/alternatives/*java* | grep libjavaplugin_oji.so03:59
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frogfooti have ubuntu,   im running xfce because gnome is to ram intensive for my 64mb.     bad ram chip.04:00
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bigfoot1_jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/566504:00
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xoredhow to setup a router on a debian server ? I have eth1 as internal and eth0 as internet(cable)04:02
_jasonbigfoot1, sudo rm /opt/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so; sudo ln -s /etc/alternatives/mozilla-javaplugin.so /opt/firefox/plugins/04:02
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bigfoot1_jason, done.04:03
_jasonbigfoot1, ok test now04:03
bigfoot1_jason, i ran both sudos at the same time04:03
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_jasonbigfoot1, yep that's ok the04:03
thomas_hi04:03
bigfoot1_jason, not working anymore.04:04
_jasonbigfoot1, the ';' seperates commands just like different lines04:04
_jasonbigfoot1, argh I don't believe you lol04:04
bigfoot1_jason, i get the green puzzle piece04:04
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thomas_i need a lillte help with gnome-panel04:04
bigfoot1_jason, and text that says "Click here to download plugin".04:04
bigfoot1_jason, believe me. no good news this time04:04
bigfoot1_jason, i'm not crying wolf04:05
thomas_can anybody help me?04:05
hmpedersenThanx _jason..04:05
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Seveas!tell thomas_ about anyone04:06
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_jasonbigfoot1, ok: sudo mv /opt/firefox/plugins/mozilla-javaplugin.so /opt/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so04:06
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bigfoot1_jason, done04:06
thomas_normaly you have the lillte icons ig of amarok or gaim in the panel...04:06
_jasonbigfoot1, tell me what 'ls -l /opt/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so' says04:06
thomas_but i doenst. i dont know what i have done, but the icons arent in panel anymore...04:07
bigfoot1_jason, lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 39 2005-12-13 00:00 /opt/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so -> /etc/alternatives/mozilla-javaplugin.so04:07
xoredhow to setup a router on a debian server ? I have eth1 as internal and eth0 as internet(cable)04:07
_jasonbigfoot1, ok try firefox04:07
odinhow do I get linux-headers for my kernel?  I have 2.6.12-10-38604:07
odin and "apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)" says couldn't find package.04:07
bigfoot1_jason, no good04:08
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_jasonbigfoot1, ok one more try and then you cna just use the old method: cd /opt/firefox/plugins; sudo mv mozilla-javaplugin.so libjavaplugin_oji.so04:08
thomas_no one has an idea?04:08
bigfoot1_jason, mv: cannot stat `mozilla-javaplugin.so': No such file or directory04:09
bigfoot1jeff@ubuntu:/opt/firefox/plugins$04:09
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_jasonbigfoot1, k try04:09
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bigfoot1_jason, it's okay even with the above error?04:10
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_jasonbigfoot1, that's not an error, cd just put you in the /opt/firefox/opt/ directory so you dont have to keep typing it04:10
_jasonbigfoot1, if you type ls -l *java* you'll see the name change04:11
bigfoot1_jason, so    "           mv: cannot stat `mozilla-javaplugin.so': No such file or directory                 "   is OK?04:11
_jasonbigfoot1, no, you didn't show me that :)04:11
_jasonbigfoot1, argh i am blind, yes u did04:11
bigfoot1_jason, you were blind but now you see04:11
_jasonbigfoot1, ok what does ls -l *java* say04:12
frogfoothow d oi use gstreamer04:12
kestasbigfoot1, check out Seveas' java repo04:12
_jasonubuntulog, tell frogfoot about multimedia04:12
bigfoot1_jason, jeff@ubuntu:/$ ls -l *java04:12
bigfoot1ls: *java: No such file or directory04:12
_jasonkestas, he has it installed, he just needs the link set up04:12
kestashmm I didnt need to set it up04:13
_jasonbigfoot1, *java*04:13
kestasI installed it just today04:13
_jasonkestas, firefox 1.504:13
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kestasah04:13
bigfoot1_jason, @ubuntu:/$ ls -l *java*04:13
bigfoot1ls: *java*: No such file or directory04:13
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bigfoot1_jason, i did a bunch of "cd .."04:14
_jasonbigfoot1, ls -l /opt/firefox/plugins/*java*04:14
bigfoot1_jason, lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 39 2005-12-13 00:00 /opt/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so -> /etc/alternatives/mozilla-javaplugin.so04:14
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hmpedersenhmm.. does it usually take long installing a game with wine?04:15
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_jasonbigfoot1, sudo mv /opt/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so /opt/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so04:15
TioMalandrahola, como puedo instalar java1.5 en kubuntu?04:15
bigfoot1_jason, done04:15
_jasonbigfoot1, now it will work, cross your fingers this time04:15
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bigfoot1_jason, still doesn't wor04:16
_jasonubotu, tell TioMalandra about java04:16
bigfoot1work04:16
odinwill apt-getting a new kernel instal it into grub and such as well?04:16
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_jasonbigfoot1, ok sudo rm /opt/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so and use the old command i guess04:17
bclI need a bit of help with apt/dpkg management. I've almost hosed my system :)04:17
_jasonubotu, tell TioMalandra about es04:17
bigfoot1_jason, could you tell me about the old command again.04:17
xoredhow to setup a router on a debian server ? I have eth1 as internal and eth0 as internet(cable)04:17
bclI'm trying to get transcode to work, and after fighting with attempting to compile it I decided to try a newer version of libgcc104:18
_jasonbigfoot1, ha i told you to remember it!04:18
wildmanquestion, I'm having 'pbs' (warnings actually) from Perl about locale support (breezy on x86_64):04:18
bigfoot1_jason. oops04:18
wildmanperl: warning: Setting locale failed.04:18
wildmanperl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:04:18
wildman        LANGUAGE = "es_AR:es_ES:es:en_GB:en",04:18
wildman        LC_ALL = (unset),04:18
wildman        LANG = "en"04:18
_jasonbigfoot1, sudo ln -s /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /opt/firefox/plugins04:18
wildman    are supported and installed on your system.04:18
_jasonubotu, tell wildman about pastebin04:18
wildmansorry for the flood. any idea on how to fix this?04:18
bigfoot1_jason, that's all?04:18
wildman_jason: yes, my fault, sorry04:18
bclI did a dpkg -i libgcc1_4.0.2-5ubuntu2_i386.deb and it said it needed a newer version of libc6, which I don't want to do so I haven't installed anything else.04:18
_jasonbigfoot1, yeah, after you do the rm command i told you right before04:18
chrisx1hey anyone usin webmin on ubuntu?04:19
odinuboto, tell odin about kernel04:19
bigfoot1ok. did both.04:19
bclBut now apt seems to think it needs the new libgcc1 and synaptic wants to 'fix' things by uninstalling a whole crapload of stuff.04:19
hmpedersenId wish, wine was faster... I am longing for a game of gta :)04:19
bclhow do I make it 'forget' about my attempt to install the newwe libgcc1?04:19
bigfoot1_jason, it works agoin04:19
bigfoot1again04:19
chrisx1hey anyone usin webmin on ubuntu? or know about it?04:20
_jasonbigfoot1, ok strange, but good i guess04:20
bigfoot1_jason, hopefully i won't be needing to change java versions anytime soon04:20
bigfoot1_jason thank you so much.04:20
_jasonbigfoot1, yep04:20
bigfoot1_jason. you should be promoted from _jason to jason04:20
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_jasonbigfoot1, the problem is that then I hear beeps everyminute because of variations of it04:20
bigfoot1_jason, i see.04:20
bigfoot1_jason, so i guess you ARE promoted.04:21
bigfoot1good night.04:21
_jasonbigfoot1, night04:21
wildmanlooks like someone had the same pb from perl when trying to configure postgresql (according to pastebin)04:21
bigfoot1take care and merry Christmas.04:21
_jasonbigfoot1, you too04:21
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siriusnovaUbuntu makes my pants tight04:21
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bclwildman, I got those same errors when doing a dist-upgrade from hoary to breezy. Had to rerun it 4 times to get it to finish and never solved it.04:22
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siriusnovaIm <3 ing Ubuntu right now04:22
siriusnovaits so much better then other distros04:22
siriusnovaomg Ubuntu is so awesome04:22
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jayhello?04:23
siriusnovahi04:23
jayFirst time in here for me04:23
siriusnovaokay :)04:23
jayOnly went to Linux 2 days ago04:23
jayI like it !!04:23
wildmanbcl: under Mandriva I haven't seen this pb at all... if I switch to it and run the same script, it doesn't bark about locale support04:23
siriusnovayeah Ubuntu is pretty nice, and Im a Unix user04:23
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bclsiriusnova, welcome!04:24
wildmanbcl: so, I wanted to know if there's some pkg specific with perl locale support...04:24
HymnToLifethen welcome here jay :)04:24
siriusnovaI havent had any headaches like with other distributions like Mandrake or SUSE04:24
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harfoozhi jay04:24
jayHello04:24
jayThe install went great, but installing JAVA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!04:25
siriusnovaeverything is easy to set up, and the GUI tools are sane and sensible, not unlike Mandrake where it feels like the GUI tools were sketchd up while the programmers were smoking a bomb04:25
siriusnovaerr bong04:25
jay:)04:25
siriusnovaim installing java right now04:25
bclAny thoughts on my dpkg problem anyone? How do I list packages that are 'pending' install but have failed?04:25
jayWhat a nightmare04:25
siriusnovai just clicked java in the "App Installer" application04:26
harfoozjay would you like the instructions I used to get java applets to play in firefox?04:26
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jayharfooz.... its working fine now. Reminds me of my old DOS days04:26
jaythenks04:26
harfoozcool04:26
jaysiriusnova...... its not that easy is it?04:27
siriusnovayeah it is jay, i just did it :)04:27
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jayit took me 3 hours04:27
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harfoozeek! that is too long! ;)04:27
siriusnovai havent tried any java applets right yet04:27
siriusnovahmm04:27
jayharfooz... could you send me those instruction :) please....04:28
siriusnovajay - yep java works fine :D04:28
harfoozjay, sure hang on let me get a url for you04:28
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harfoozjay, have you ever used a terminal before?04:29
jaynope...does it show04:29
jayoh hang on yes04:29
EnforsIf I want an imap server, which package should I install?04:29
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jayworks like a dos screen04:29
harfoozjay, ok go to Accessories -> Terminal04:30
harfoozright04:30
siriusnovaahh blimey04:30
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harfoozlet me know when you have it opened.04:30
siriusnovaanyone know how to get trailers.apple.com to work?04:30
jaydonw04:30
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jaydone04:30
harfoozjay,ok type this: sudo apt-get install j2re1.4*04:30
harfoozit's going to ask you for your password.04:30
harfoozthere will be some whirring about.04:30
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Enforsharfooz: Wouldn't it need " with that *?04:31
harfoozEnfors, I didn't04:31
EnforsYou'd think the shell would directly match j2re1.4* against any files in your pwd04:31
jayok it couldn`t find package04:32
Enfors... unless you quote it.04:32
jayno worries anyway.. its working...04:32
EnforsIf I want an imap server, which package should I install?04:32
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siriusnovaif i install w32codecs will the totem plugin in firefox use them automagically?04:33
jayI am quite impressed with this package as Im running 2 PC's04:33
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_jasonsiriuskr, use the xine backend for totem, totem-xine04:33
_jasonarg04:33
jayPC1 has Win Xp with a USB modem04:33
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_jasonsiriusnova, ^04:33
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siriusnova_jason - how do i set it up that way?04:33
bclhmm, interesting full scren interface to aptitude in an xterm, understands mouse clicks.04:33
jayPC2 has ubuntu attached to PC1 with a crossover cable04:33
qt2okay... libswt3.1-gtk-java: Conflicts: libswt-gtk-3.1-java but 3.1-2ubuntu1 is to be installed04:34
siriusnovabasically i just want trailers.apple.com to work04:34
qt2can someone explain that to me? o.O;04:34
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_jasonsiriusnova, just install totem-xine in synaptic (totem-gstreamer will get removed)04:34
siriusnovaoh i see04:34
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siriusnovahmm there is no win32codecs in synaptic :(04:35
jendasiriusnova: I can help installing those.04:35
bclhow to fix broken libgcc1 attempt: download original .deb and install it in the same manner. fixed now.04:35
jendasiriusnova: Do you have x86?04:35
EnforsIf I want an imap server, which package should I install?04:35
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siriusnovanvm found it jenda04:36
jendaok04:36
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harfoozsiriusnova, I dl'd the codecs using the instructions found at RestrictedFormats04:36
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siriusnovawell whats better totem-xine or totem-gstreamer?04:36
jayIs there a defrag program available?04:37
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_Gray_siriusnova: use automatix http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6656304:37
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EnforsGenerally, Linux filesystems don't get fragmented.04:37
_Gray_less fragmented than windows04:37
jayWhys that?04:37
Enfors(atleast ext2 didn't, not sure how it works these days)04:37
harfoozsiriusnova, I always use totem-xine04:37
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_Gray_they have a more efficient journalling system i guess04:37
siriusnovaharfooz - anything else i should install aside from w32codecs and totem-xine ?04:37
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jaywhat about antivirus or firewalls04:38
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_jasonsiriusnova, I like mplayer, a lot of people swear by vlc.  Give them a try and decide04:38
harfoozhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats04:38
harfoozsiriusnova, hit that site04:38
fletch33morning all04:39
siriusnova_jason - i used VLC in Windows, its nice04:39
harfoozsiriusnova, I skipped the section on gstreamer stuff and went directly to totem-xine and mplayer04:39
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EnforsIf I want an imap server, which package should I install?04:39
harfoozsiriusnova, brb04:39
jayIs there a need for antivirus04:39
fletch33quick ? my clock diasappeared from the top right of my screen. anyone tell me how toput it back04:39
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[R] itchiethere is an imap server called cyrus usually in a package called cyrus-imapd04:40
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_jasonjay, nope04:40
jayjason what about firewalls04:40
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_jasonjay, you have one on already04:40
fletch33it was always on my top tighr panel and it just went away04:40
Enfors[R] itchie: Thanks04:40
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jayNice to know thanks04:40
_jasonjay, you can install "firestarter" for a gui to iptables04:41
dooglusjay: ubuntu comes withh 'iptables', a firewall built into the kernel04:41
jayWhy doesn't it need Av04:41
Enfors[R] itchie: Is that the one most commonly used?04:41
dooglusjay: the default policy is "accept all incoming connections" - so it's a bit like not having one at all...04:41
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molsenDoes someone know if the hotplug-package has been removed in dapper?04:42
jayI'm thinking of putting ubuntu on my main PC. Will it detect my USB modem?04:42
molsenjay, try the live-cd!04:43
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jaymolsen thanks... I will04:43
HymnToLifejay > out of the bo, the chnes are very low04:43
HymnToLifebox*04:43
mjrit will detect it, being able to use it is another story... molsen's advise is good04:43
HymnToLifebut with a little bit of tweaking it will work fine04:44
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jaythanks for the advice chaps04:44
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jaymuch appreciated :)04:44
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annacan someone tell me how to install a program?04:46
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Subhumananna, its quite simple in ubuntu04:46
siriusnovaanna - use "Add Applications" in the Applications menu04:46
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Subhumananna, goto System/Administation/Synaptic Package manager, and you can search and hightlight programs to install, then just click "Apply"04:47
annaSubhuman normally i use synaptic, but this time it wont work..04:47
_jasonanna, what does 'won't work' mean?04:47
annaSubhuman i just downloaded "nerolinux" and i dont know how to install this ;)04:48
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Subhumananna, what is the file extension of nerolinux?04:48
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anna Subhuman nerolinux-2.0.0.4-x86.deb04:48
annasorry, my english is miserable..04:49
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chrisx1how do i unpack a tar.gz ?04:50
oskudechrisx1, tar -xvzf file.tar.gz04:50
chrisx1ty04:50
psykopatqqun parle francais?04:50
annaSubhuman can i just go to the terminal and type install nerolinux-2.0.0.4-x86.deb or something?04:50
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Subhumananna, your english is fine, and if itz a deb run "dpkg -i nerolinux-2.0.0.0.4-x86.deb" in the termina;04:51
trappistanna: sudo dpkg -i nerolinux*.deb04:51
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annaokay, i will try that, thanks ;)04:51
harfoozanna, sudo apt-get install nameofpackage if you don't already have the package downloaded.04:51
mausiwho's there?04:51
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Seveasmausi, knock knock04:52
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mausiok, i leave now04:52
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annaSubhuman erm do i have to change the directory first?04:53
chrisx1!repos04:53
uboturumour has it, repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource04:53
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Subhumananna, just go to the directory nerolinux is in04:53
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annaSubhuman can you tell me how to change into the directory of the desktop please?04:53
Subhumancd ~04:54
Subhumancd Desktop04:54
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Subhumanthat should get you there04:54
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Subhumanthen once ure in the correct directory (check by running "ls" and seeing if the file is there) run "sudo dpkg -i nerolinux-2.0.0.0.4-x86.deb" and that should work.04:55
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phil_I am trying to install gtk-1.2 can anyone help?04:57
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roonhi04:57
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annaSubhuman thank you, but it doesnt work :/04:57
ryanpghi all what's the best app to use for duplicating a data cd04:57
Subhumanhmm, what does it say?04:57
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chrisx1!root04:58
ubotu[root]  rumour has it, that root is disabled in Ubuntu, actually this means there is no password set for the root account, use sudo when you need admin access, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo04:58
annaSubhuman sorry, i have to think about the translation ;)04:58
nomedis there any gtk app to translate po files ?04:58
annaSubhuman it says something like there is a dependace problem..04:58
Subhumananna, ahh i see.04:59
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roonwhat i need to do to seen ntfs partition of04:59
Subhumananna, this just means, the file needs other files to work which you dont have.04:59
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roonto see*04:59
Subhumananna, i dont know anything about this nerolinux, so ill go see if i can see what it needs to work.05:00
roon...05:00
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annaSubhuman and ca i get these files somewhere?05:00
Dido-Hi! I downloaded Wine using Synapic Pack Manager, but how do I install it? I installed winesetuptk but don't know how to run it.. some help?05:00
roonso?05:00
roonguys plz help me05:00
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roonwhat i need to do to see ntfs partition05:00
annaSubhuman it says, it needs xlibs05:00
phil_Dido_ I was wondering how to do the same thing, can't figure it out.05:00
VIPER^|^hello there, i need some help,i have source code the sks package am building it but when i type make it giving me error 2, anybody has an idea about it05:01
johnsie2kHiya, what program for linux is capable of converting and mpg to a vcd?05:01
Subhumananna, try in the terminal "sudo apt-get install xlibs"05:01
Dido-phil_ nobody helped you out here?..05:01
roon...05:01
roonheyeee05:01
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roonany1 heard me?05:01
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phil_dido, yeah, first time here, just trying to get this ubuntu schnazz working05:01
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VIPER^|^roon i think "cfdisk"05:02
roonasd05:02
roonhmm05:02
nlindbladhi05:02
roonatm im running on ubuntu05:02
roonbut all my documents @ ntfs partition05:03
VIPER^|^roon type cfdisk05:03
roonATAL ERROR: Bad logical partition 6: enlarged logical partitions overlap05:03
roon                          Press any key to exit cfdisk05:03
annaSubhuman thank you very much!!! its working ;) thank you!05:03
VIPER^|^u'll get ur partitions05:03
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VIPER^|^hello there, i need some help,i have source code the sks package am building it but when i type make it giving me error 2, anybody has an idea about it05:04
egytracki can't put files in www folder05:04
Subhumananna, anytime :)05:04
phil_How can I install packages w/ Synaptic that are outside the Repositories?05:04
[R] itchiewhat are the errors reported by make ?05:05
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annaSubhuman okay, have a nice day ;) byebyee05:05
egytracki try copy and paste in the folder /var/www but i could not .. !05:05
VIPER^|^[R] itchie, cd cryptokit-1.0 && make all05:05
VIPER^|^make[1] : Entering directory `/home/rami/Desktop/SKS Project/sks-1.0.10/cryptokit-1.0'05:05
VIPER^|^ocamlc -g -c -ccopt "-O -I/usr/include" rijndael-alg-fst.c05:05
VIPER^|^/bin/sh: ocamlc: command not found05:05
VIPER^|^make[1] : *** [rijndael-alg-fst.o]  Error 12705:05
VIPER^|^make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/rami/Desktop/SKS Project/sks-1.0.10/cryptokit-1.0'05:05
VIPER^|^make: *** [cryptokit-1.0/cryptokit.cma]  Error 205:05
oskudeegytrack, i think "/var/www" is owned by "root" or "www-data"05:05
Subhumanegytrack, you need to be root, try to do it like "sudo cp folder/to/copy /var/www/"05:06
Subhuman!tell VIPER^|^ about pastebin05:06
oskudeegytrack, you can also make a "public_html" dir in your home and you can access that through "localhost/~yourusername"05:06
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[R] itchieyour missing the ocamlc compiler, its probably available as a package somewhere05:07
Dido-Hi! I downloaded Wine using Synapic Pack Manager, but how do I install it? I installed winesetuptk but don't know how to run it.. some help?05:07
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VIPER^|^[R] itchie, so shall i search for05:07
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egytrackoskude , i make public_htm like you said , but dosn't work05:08
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phil_Dido- do you know how to install a package that's not in a repository (w/ synaptic?)05:09
[R] itchieocaml-native-compilers seems to be the package name i would look at05:09
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oskudeegytrack, what didnt work ?05:09
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Dido-phil_ nope..05:09
yrjoinstall wine-doc with synaptic05:09
phil_Dido- do you know if it's possible, even?05:09
Dido-phil_ yeh it is05:10
VIPER^|^[R] itchie, thanks man i'll search05:10
Dido-phil_ using the console i think..05:10
phil_yrjo   what's the console?05:10
oskudeegytrack, "mkdir ~/public_html" and putting your stuff there doesnt show up in "localhost/~yourusername/" ?05:10
phil_Dido- what's the console?05:10
egytrackoskude , i make public_htm folder in home folder .. and put the files there05:10
CaptainMorganscrew this... how do I update from hoary to breezy ?>05:11
Dido-phil_ just like the msdos prompt but much more functional ;] 05:11
yrjoterminal?05:11
Subhumanegytrack, not in home, in home/yourusername05:11
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[R] itchieyou use dpkg to install non-repo packages phil_05:11
phil_Dido- Uh, you mean bash?05:11
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oskudeegytrack, the files have to have read rights for "others" and folders also "execute"05:11
Subhumanso like home/john/public_html/ is accessed with localhost/~john05:11
roondoes ubuntu have ftp client?05:11
Dido-phil_ you can find it in accessories > terminal. dont know if it's bass ;] 05:12
Dido-bash*05:12
[R] itchiegftp roon05:12
CaptainMorganroon - yes05:12
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phil_[R] itchie, big help thanks05:12
rooni mean to use05:12
roonask client05:12
CaptainMorganroon   - yes05:12
roonnot a server05:12
puffif I want to tar up a file tree and kov05:12
phil_Dido-, yeah, mine's bash.  I _know_ what that is. ...05:12
roon;) but where it is05:12
[R] itchiegftp is a gui ftp client05:12
Dido-[R] itchie would you help me whit that05:13
Dido-Hi! I downloaded Wine using Synapic Pack Manager, but how do I install it? I installed winesetuptk but don't know how to run it.. some help?05:13
oskudeegytrack, do you have a file or a directory that is not shown in public_html ?05:13
CaptainMorganhow do you update from hoary to breezy without losing data or having to use the disks/?05:13
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puffif I want to tar up a file tree and move it to another system, and have the same file perms on the new system, would I just use tar --preserve-permissions?05:13
rooni cant find it @ aplications-internet05:13
[R] itchiewine is just a bunch of libraries you need to install some windows apps to get it working05:13
[R] itchieyou dont just install it and have windows05:13
Dido-but how can i run the wine application05:14
[R] itchieput in a ms office cd and watch it start the installation for office :)05:14
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rooni cant find it @ aplications-internet05:14
Dido-i dont think it is already installed05:14
oskudeegytrack, for directories try "chmod +x ~/public_html/dirthatsnotshown"05:14
[R] itchiethe command is just "wine" in a terminal05:14
zandaacan anyone help me?05:14
[R] itchiebut as i said it wont do anything without a windows program to run05:14
Dido-bash: wine: command not found05:14
[R] itchieyou dont have it installed then05:14
ploutonashello! I use mandrake for a year. Should I install ubuntu on my laptop or stay with mandrake until I get better?05:15
zandaasomeone in this channel said running the 32-bit version on a 64-bit system would work.... does it really?05:15
[R] itchiei would expect it to zandaa05:15
zandaa[R] itchie, because I've been having trouble all afternoon getting the 32-bit to work05:15
[R] itchieunless there is something fruity with some of the device drivers05:15
ploutonaszandaa, I think it will, but you'll lose the power05:16
roondamn05:16
zandaaploutonas, ah ok05:16
roonwhere is this ftp client05:16
trappistafter following the binary driver wiki page I get this when I sudo modprobe fglrx: FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/misc/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted05:16
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CaptainMorganRGH!05:16
roonwhere is this ftp client05:16
nomikehi05:16
roon;/05:16
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zandaaploutonas, but most software will not run on the 64-bit version <_<05:17
[R] itchiewhy not just download the 64bit ersion zandaa05:17
[R] itchieversion*05:17
[R] itchiesorry didnt read that before replying ;p05:17
nomikeAre there known Problems with TexasInstruments ACX 802.11g WLAN cards in Ubuntu 5.10?05:17
roonad???05:18
zandaa[R] itchie, I've got CDs of Breezy laying around, both 32-bit and 64-bit05:18
nomike(I think I've read something on the net)05:18
[R] itchiewhat do you mean by most software05:18
[R] itchieany specific packages05:18
egytrackoskude , could not do it . i try /home/username/public_html dosn't shown in localhost\username05:18
egytrackoskude , did i miss something ?05:18
zandaa[R] itchie, glest (a game), gtk-gnutella latest build, etc. etc. the list goes on05:18
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Subhumanegytrack, did u make the folder readable by other users?05:18
[R] itchiehttp://localhost/~<username>  did you have the ~05:19
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ploutonaszandaa, I don't know maybe you're right05:19
[R] itchiei dont have a 64bit machine here to play with zandaa so i have no hands on with it05:19
egytrackyes i miss ~05:19
zandaa[R] itchie, ok <_< only thing I got is a 64bit machine05:20
egytracknow working thanks oskude , Subhuman , [R] itchie05:20
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zandaaploutonas, all the packages I download from sourceforge (latest builds etc) say they're not compatible with the AMD64 structure05:20
[R] itchiei would of put money on the 32bit version working fine it is, afterall, supposed to be compatible05:20
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[R] itchieyou need to make sure you grap the amd64 or x86_64 versions of the packages not the i386 but other than that it should work :S05:21
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oskudeegytrack, its "localhost/~username" in browser (note the "~")05:21
zandaa[R] itchie, there are almost no amd64 or x86_64 packages <_< (except on the repos)05:21
peter_How do i get my usb speakers to work with ubuntu? Modprobe usb sound gives nothing!05:21
oskudeegytrack, oh, works allready :) (was afk and read the log..)05:22
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zandaasince when are there USB speakers??? haven't heard about em05:22
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peter_u known speakers for the sound?05:23
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[R] itchieprobably an audio card with a usb interface and some ports. Ive seen a few and they usually require windows drivers05:23
nomedis there any app like kbabel in gtk ?05:23
phil_[R] itchie -- i can't use dpkg but I know my way around aptitude do you know how I can load a newer version of the deb's in aptitude?05:23
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spiekeyhello!05:23
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spiekeyhas anyone an idea why cdrecord wont blank my cd-rw? http://pastebin.com/46097105:23
peter_anybody got some bright idea?05:23
[R] itchienever used aptitude sorry, dpkg -i <package name> is all i use05:24
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[R] itchiewhat is the make/model of these usb speakers05:24
gib8hi05:24
[R] itchiethey probably dont have drivers05:24
phil_[R] itchie -- uh, sounds okay ... but do I run this in same dir as the deb I download?05:24
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peter_some cheap crap! Soundmax05:24
peter_And google aint helpfull05:25
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IzzyCChey all05:25
[R] itchieyou need to be in the same directory as the deb in the terminal using "cd <directory name>"05:25
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zandaa.05:25
[R] itchieif you downloaded to desktop open a terminal and do "cd Desktop"05:25
gib8my ubunut says to me, that something is new tu update and install. so i did but than it removed grub and installed lilo :(05:25
[R] itchiethen dpkg etc05:25
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gib8how can i get back my grub?05:25
zandaa[R] itchie, it is ~/Desktop05:25
phil_Yeah, I used to do that in my debian days [R] itchie05:26
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villerhi05:26
[R] itchiepeter_, it probably wont have drivers- your best bet is to search for a driver first and how to use the driver 2nd05:26
villerwhere is the trash icon located?05:26
[R] itchiebottom right05:26
roondamn05:26
roon;/05:26
peter_okay thanx!05:26
roonno1 can help me!05:26
zandaais it also possible to remove the GRUB boatloader from the MBR once it's installed there to put it in it's own partition?05:26
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[R] itchieare you dual booting with windows ?05:27
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zandaa[R] itchie, yes05:27
villerwhere is the trash icon (i mean the image file) located?05:27
[R] itchiewindows 98/xp ?05:27
zandaaXP05:27
oskudeviller, try here /usr/share/pixmaps/05:27
nubuntuI need to reset LC_ALL locale name... or what it is. Tried to edit /etc/environment, but dont know what to write. Is there a list over accepted locale names or something?05:27
_jasonviller, probably in /usr/share/pixmaps05:27
[R] itchietwo possible ways to restore the mbr: fdisk /mbr but i dont know if that works in XP. Other is to boot from the XP cdrom into the recovery console then run fixmbr from the command prompt (you will need to know the admin login for this)05:28
zandaaof course I know the admin login... I built the whole system myself05:28
[R] itchieviller, on my screen its on the tray at the very bottom right05:28
villerwierd but i can't find it there05:28
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oskudenubuntu, try "ls /usr/share/i18n/locales/"05:29
HymnToLife[R] itchie > but then it will be impossible to boot linux05:29
[R] itchieyep05:29
IzzyCCanyone here familiar with ISPConfig?05:29
HymnToLifeif you use fixmbr05:29
viller[R] itchie i mean wher's the image on the hard drive, in what folder05:29
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zandaahymntolife, I believe it's possible to install the GRUB on like a flashstick and boot from there05:29
cozhello hello05:29
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Subhumanor05:29
HymnToLifezandaa > it is05:29
Subhumanthat other bootloadewr05:29
villerif someone finds their trash icon in /usr/share/pixmaps then could he give me the direct link to it05:29
HymnToLifeif your motherboard supports booting from USB05:30
Subhumancrap, whats itz name, Graphical Boot Loader, but in spanish....05:30
nubuntuoskude, thanks05:30
[R] itchieyou would need to obviously change grub to install onto the partition rather than the disk before doing this mbr thing zandaa05:30
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cozviller what happened to your trash icon05:30
phil_[R] itchie -- what's the differ. between dpkg -i and make, make-install??05:30
[R] itchieotherwise as HymnToLife  says you wont be able to boot05:30
zandaa[R] itchie, I think it's gonna take another fresh install of Ubuntu then right?05:30
[R] itchiedpkg is for pre-made packages and make is actually compiling the code05:30
[R] itchieshould do05:30
HymnToLifeas a matter of fact, I think you can configue Windows MBR05:30
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Subhuman[R] itchie, you can burn GAG to a cd or floppy05:31
roonpf05:31
phil_[R] itchie, is there a way to make, make install a whole dir full of sources?05:31
HymnToLifebut it's a bit tricky and I don't remember if you can boot non-windows OSes with it05:31
roonhow to install Gftp for ubuntu05:31
roon??05:31
Subhumanand itz a boot loader, and you can configure it to boot whatever and write it to the hdd05:31
phil_I mean, all at ones05:31
[R] itchienot really phil05:31
villercoz: nothing happened to it, i created a trash shortcut on my desktop, but i can't find the correct icon for it05:31
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villerroon it's in the repos05:31
[R] itchiethe problem with overwritting the mbr with windows one is you will need to get the windows boot loader to offer the choice of booting into linux05:31
villerroon try synaptic05:31
zandaahymntolife, thanks for the info:)05:31
HymnToLiferoon > with Synaptic05:31
roonwhat/05:31
[R] itchielinux is kind enough to give you the chance to run windows if you want where as it doenst work the other way around :)05:32
HymnToLifeof apt-get install gftp05:32
JonasNormanviller, my trash icon changes with each theme, do you want the originial from a fresh ubuntu install?05:32
roonhm where i can find it05:32
phil_[R] itchie, someone said you could use synaptic to load up some binaries that were outside of the repositories, do you think (or know) if this is possible??05:32
villerjonasnorman yes05:32
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Subhumanzandaa, install GAG to your mbr05:32
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nubuntuoskude, how about the LANG="..." part?05:32
[R] itchiei couldnt find a way to do that myself hence why i looked up dpkg and how to do it that way05:32
Laz-Ehey05:32
JonasNormanwas it blue05:32
zandaaSubhuman, what'sGAG???05:32
Subhumanzandaa, you can just burn it to a cd, and boot with it, and see how u like it05:32
JonasNormanviller, was it blue*05:32
[R] itchieits probably possible but ive only been using this variety of linux for 2 weeks now05:32
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Laz-Ewhere are the wifi channels on this server?05:33
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IzzyCChey all, i just, (or so I thought) removed php4 and installed php5, but its still showing php4, anyone mind helping me?05:33
villerjonasnorman: yes05:33
HymnToLiferoom > system > Admiistration > Synaptic05:33
_jasonviller, strange... I can't find it there either but I have used it since I made my .trash folder us the icon... how can I see where the icon is pointing?05:33
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oskudenubuntu, dunno, sry05:33
Subhumanzandaa, http://gag.sourceforge.net/ check it out05:33
zandaaproblem is... this is my first linux setup05:33
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roonso05:33
roonand where there05:33
Subhumanzandaa, you can just put it on a floppy or cd to check it out, and itll let u boot any partiton u got.05:33
JonasNormanviller, /usr/share/icons/gnome/48X48/filesystems05:33
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zandaaSubhuman, it also works on a spare USB stick?05:34
villerthanks jonasnorman05:34
ubuntuuuuuuuuuthe option on the menu bar called install programs  disappeared, does anybody know what happened?05:34
[R] itchiewhy exactly are you wanting to move the mbr anyway zandaa05:34
VIPER^|^[R] itchie, man thank you but it still giving me eroor that z_stream undeclared,do u have any idea05:34
CaptainMorganhey, how can you tell with verision, hoary breezy you have? I just ran apt-get dist-upgrade...05:34
CaptainMorgandid a  bunch... but do I now have breezy ?05:34
nubuntuany norwegians here who can help me setting my LANG and LANGUAGE right?05:34
Subhumanzandaa, im not sure, but if u can boot from usb cant see why not.05:34
HymnToLifezandaa > yes, if your motherboard supports booting from USB05:34
zandaa[R] itchie, in case my linux decides to fail on me... I can't run windows anymore without a re-install I think05:34
[R] itchiereally dont know specifics about that package VIPER^|^  sorry :(05:34
cozTo day I am a happy man , I douwngraded my xchat from .6.0 to 2.405:34
zandaaHymnToLife, of course i made sure to get a supportive motherboard :)05:35
cozsorry for 2.6 to 2.405:35
VIPER^|^[R] itchie, thanks man really thanks05:35
Subhumanzandaa, you can.05:35
cozare Asus motherboard supported?05:35
zandaaHymnToLife, I'm even considering... installing Linux on my iPod to boot it from there :)05:35
ubuntuuuuuuuuuthe option on the menu bar called install programs  disappeared, does anybody know what happened?05:35
Dido-Is it possible to run the file browser as root everytime?05:35
Subhumanzandaa, you can just use the windows xp cd.05:35
trappistDido-: possible, but stupid05:35
zandaaSubhuman, that'll fix the MBR then?05:35
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gib8doesnt grub work with LVM?05:36
nickrudcoz, the backports one was buggy, I take it?05:36
HymnToLifeDido- > yes, but highly unadvsable05:36
zandaagib8, I don't think so05:36
IzzyCCanyone here mind helping me with an install for some $?05:36
Subhumanzandaa, well it will fix the mbr, but wont allow u to boot into linux05:36
HymnToLifeadvisable*05:36
cozNo the newer version was buggy05:36
CaptainMorganhello?05:36
Dido-transgress HymnToLife right, then how to run it as root only when i need to05:36
zandaaSubhuman, but I won't need to if my Linux craps out on me05:36
Subhumanzandaa, for that, ull need to install GRUB or LILO or GAG05:36
gib8zandaa, okay than i know, why my systemupdate cached grub into lilo05:36
joachim-nwhat text editors are good for working with html or code?05:36
IzzyCCjoachim-n i use editplus05:37
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Subhumanzandaa, what do u mean?05:37
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CaptainMorganemacs is king05:37
JonasNormanviller, yup. you should see on guistyles.com there is a trash icon that when full has a celien dion cd in it05:37
HymnToLifeDido- > add a laucher to your desktop or wherever with the command "gksudo nautilus"05:37
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roonhmm05:37
HymnToLifejoachim-n > Bluefish05:37
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zandaaSubhuman, I don't even know what I mean myself, I'm confused a bit05:37
ubuntuuuuuuuuuthe option on the menu bar called install programs  disappeared, does anybody know what happened?05:37
roonok here goes another problem05:37
CaptainMorganno05:37
roonhow i can burn iso05:37
CaptainMorganno05:37
CaptainMorganno05:37
CaptainMorganno05:37
CaptainMorganno05:37
zandaaso Subhuman, how do I set up this GAG on a USB stick?05:37
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HymnToLiferoon > gnomebaker05:38
roonthis one is already instaled05:38
IzzyCCanyone here mind helping me with an install of php5/mysql5 for some $?05:38
roonor i need to instal it05:38
Subhumanzandaa, well the bottom line is, if you want linux and windows back, easiest way is gag on a CD-R. if u want jsut windows xp, windows xp disc, r for recovery console then "fixmbr"05:38
cozroon with gnomebaker05:38
NeoNmaNhallo alle here.... i need a help...... i whojt to install ( MythTV ) an i can't get it install right... i get a error plz help me05:38
ubuntuuuuuuuuuthe option on the menu bar called install programs  disappeared, does anybody know what happened?05:38
cozroon or nerolinux05:38
HymnToLifethen you can burn ISOs with it05:38
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Subhumanzandaa, im not sure, but try extracting the iso onto the usb stick.05:38
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Subhumanfor gag.05:38
Subhumanwhich is in the gag zip file on the site.05:39
zandaaSubhuman, can that be done in a standard LiveCD version?05:39
phil_[R] itchie, how do I change permissions for a dir and all dirs under that dir?  sudo chmod -r 777 dirname?05:39
HymnToLifezandaa > yes05:39
Subhumanzandaa, you mean can u put any live cd onto a usb stick?05:39
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zandaaSubhuman, no I ment can I unzip on a LiveCD version05:40
Subhumanoh your on a live cd now?05:40
[R] itchiesudo chmod -R 777 <dirname>05:40
zandaayeh05:40
Subhumanahh well yes i cant see why not.05:40
HymnToLifezandaa > yes, if you have something you can write to (like your stick)05:40
Subhumanwhat distro is it?05:40
phil_yeah big R !!05:40
NeoNmaNplz i ned help to MythTV05:40
roondone05:40
cozSubhuman you can also put the live cd onto a flash drive if your motherboard support booting from usb05:40
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zandaaSubhuman, Ubuntu of course :D05:41
Subhumanit might havea  the grub installer on it.05:41
rooni have dl gnomebaker-0.5.0.tar.gz05:41
roonwhat next05:41
VIPER^|^any body knows how do u can find this librarystubs-zlib.c05:41
HymnToLiferoon > you'd better install it from Synaptic05:41
Subhumanzandaa, just try grub-install for me, and see if runs.05:41
[R] itchiei would just do sudo apt-get install gnomebaker myself but if you like it the hard way :)05:41
zandaaSubhuman, from the terminal?05:41
zandaaSubhuman, grub-install is supported in the livecd from the terminal05:42
Subhumanis it?05:42
Subhumanwell then u can install grub to the mbr now05:42
zandaaof course, I'm running LiveCD on my bro's comp05:42
[R] itchiehave you read the readme in the source directory as to the dependancies of the package VIPER^|^ thats probably worth a look- it should tell you the names of the libraries needed so you dont have to hunt them down one by one05:42
Dido-HymnToLife thanks. so i guess it's the same (as running it as root everytime) if i set the permissions to full access to everybody?05:42
roonyes05:43
zandaaSubhuman, but thing is... i don't want grub on the MBR on my comp05:43
phil_HymnToLife -- can you install packages with Synaptic that aren't in the repositories?05:43
roonbut how to add there any packege05:43
zandaawhile it's already installed05:43
Subhumanzandaa,  what do u mean?05:43
cozphil_ not to my knowledge05:43
VIPER^|^[R] itchie,  how is that05:43
zandaaSubhuman, on my own computer, I've got ubuntu installed, but don't want a changed MBR on my HDD05:43
roon;/05:43
roonpfff05:44
ubuntuuuuuuuuuthe option on the menu bar called install programs  disappeared, does anybody know what happened?05:44
[R] itchiewhen your compiling stuff it usually lists in a file called README or INSTALL what the libraried required to compile it are05:44
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phil_coz, where should I install some packages i've got, for example the pkgconfig or wxGTK or tcl8.4.6?05:44
cozubuntuuuuuu option menu where?05:44
pedroalo05:44
roon:)05:45
roon:(05:45
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cozphil_ are these .deb packages?05:45
roonHOW TO ADD ANY PACKEGE to this bloody program05:45
phil_coz, let me check on that. hold on.05:45
VIPER^|^[R] itchie|home, thanks man05:45
redmonkeyhi! what package do i have to install to get the xorgconfig tool?05:45
Subhumanzandaa, so what do you want to do?05:45
cozroon if it is a .deb package it is easy05:45
cozphl_ OK05:45
roonthis is gz05:46
Subhumanzandaa, or, what is the problem and what do u want at the end?05:46
phil_coz, no they're sources.05:46
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zandaaSubhuman, I want to just be able to boot Linux with GAG which is going to be installed on my flash stick05:46
cozoh I have't worked with source you have to compile those I believe05:46
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cozsomeone HERE Pleaser help phil_ with these source packages05:46
phil_coz, where do you put the tarballs before you unstuff them before building for /usr/bin?05:46
cozput them in the home folder05:47
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Subhumanzandaa, do you not have a blank cd or floppy then?05:47
phil_coz, there's no issue with where they are when you build them, they'll still end up where they're suppposed to be?05:47
zandaa<_< floppy's are easily lost05:47
Subhumanzandaa, i ask because i do not know how to install onto usb. ive only done it to a floppy.05:47
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cozyes you just have to cd to their location05:48
IzzyCCanyone here mind helping me with an install of php5/mysql5 for some $?05:48
zandaaSubhuman, it lists the commands here in a install.txt file05:48
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zandaaSubhuman, so by changing the location05:48
redmonkeyplease.. what package do i need to install to get the 'xorgconfig' tool?05:48
Subhumanu can install to usb.05:48
Subhumanwell go for it, i cant help past here im afraid.05:48
zandaaexactly05:48
Subhumani can help with gag tho, i use it on all my machines05:48
zandaaSubhuman, thanks for all the help :D05:48
zandaadoes it work good?05:49
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Subhumanbut i just have it on cd, and save to hdd once ive configured it/05:49
Subhumanyeah it works great.05:49
phil_coz, so If I have some tar.gz's tarballs (right?)_ I can build them in any dir, but they'll put their executables in the right places , presumably /usr/bin?05:49
zandaaah, that's great to hear... gonna work a lot nicer than the GRUB I imagine05:49
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cozI it most definately should05:49
zandaaSubhuman, how much does a GAG install weigh/05:49
cozI would check with others here that use source packages05:50
phil_okay thanks for the help coz05:50
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cozsorry I wasn't more knowlegeable about this05:50
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ubuntuuuuuuuuucoz: Applications / Install programs,05:50
Subhumanzandaa, like a meg05:50
Subhumanitz just a bootloader, so itz tiny.05:51
zandaathat's not much at all05:51
cozubuntuuuuu which version of ubuntu are  you on??05:51
zandaaso I can still use it as MP3 player afterwards I guess:)05:51
Subhumanyeah easily.05:51
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ubuntuuuuuuuuucoz: the last one... breezy05:51
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phil_ubuntuuuuuuuuu it's called add applications, eh?05:51
Subhumanitz designed to fit in the mbr space, so itll be small05:51
ubuntuuuuuuuuuphil_: yes, sorry05:52
redmonkeywhich package contains the xorgconfig tool please?05:52
zandaahm... <_< I dunno what device it is...05:52
phil_ubuntuuuuuuuu will this add applicatons thing deal with source files?05:52
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cozif you look under "system" /"administration you will find add programs there let me know05:52
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mevvishi05:52
roonoh noes05:53
roonlinux sux05:53
zandaahey Subhuman, once I got my USB inserted... it should pop up under System>management>devicedatabase or something right?05:53
mevvisroon use win05:53
zandaaroon, how could you say that?05:53
cozubuntuuuu is this a recent "clean" install of breezy?05:53
mevviswin rulz05:53
phil_linux doesn't sux05:53
Subhumanumm, well when iplug mine in, it jus shows up on the desktop05:53
roonit is05:53
zandaaSubhuman, mine does too... but I need to know where it's mounted05:54
ubuntuuuuuuuuuphil_: I used to install programs using this add applications instead of synaptic05:54
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rooncuz full of g*ynes in this linux .. cmds/packeges ect crap05:54
Subhumanzandaa, ahh itz /dev/sd005:54
rooncant they05:54
cozubuntuuuu did you look under system/administration?05:54
phil_ubuntuuuuuuuuu does it deal with source files? do you know?05:54
Subhumanand mine mounts in /media/usb i think.05:54
roondo it little bit easer05:54
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ubuntuuuuuuuuucoz: no... i will look for something there05:55
zandaaSubhuman, for me it's /dev/sda1 (no HDD found in the Live session)05:55
cozubuntuuu it should be there but is this a "clean" instll of breezy?05:55
ubuntuuuuuuuuuphil_: I dont know05:55
phil_ubuntuuuuuuuu: thanks boss.05:55
zandaaSubhuman, I transferred it to my USB :) without problems05:55
zandaaSubhuman, how do I set it up now?05:56
cozubuntuuuuuuuuu out of curiosity, how recent is this install and was it a "clean" install05:56
HymnToLifezandaa > set up what ?05:56
zandaaHymnToLife, the GAG boot loader05:57
HymnToLifestill inyour GRUB thing ?05:57
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Subhumanwell wen u boot, it asks you a few questions, then itz jus S to setop, and itz pretty much obvious05:57
HymnToLifeoh05:57
zandaaSubhuman, and how I then transfer to MBR?05:57
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ubuntuuuuuuuuucoz: i dont know what is a "clean" install... but it's recent05:57
Subhumanpush S to go to the setup screen, then like one of the optons is "install to hdd" and push then05:57
Subhumanor w.e letter corresponds to it.05:57
zandaaah ok, I guess I gotta fix my MBR first then using the WinCD05:58
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Subhumanzandaa, if u install to hdd u wont need the xp cd05:58
cozubuntuuuuuuuuu "clean" install is either installing onto a new hard drive or a lwo formatted hard drive, either way NOTHING was on it before you installed05:58
ubuntuuuuuuuuucoz: i used the cds that a asked for...05:58
cozthat is low formatted05:58
Subhumanfixmbr with the winxp cd just installs the windows bootloader.05:58
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donzahave you played with gaim 2.0 cvs versions?05:58
phil_I want to install some up to date wares that aren't in the repositories, what's the best way to install them?? I have .deb packages and sources... plz?05:59
donzais there sound support available?05:59
zandaaSubhuman, so if I just do install to HDD it gonna replace GRUB instantly?05:59
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cozubuntuuuuuuuuu there is only one cd for breezy that i am aware of05:59
cozif it was not a clean install it could lead to problems05:59
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defiance`Hm, a fellow swede.06:00
defiance`Hello. :-)06:00
Subhumanyes06:00
zandaaah, ok :D06:00
Subhumanu can still boot linux and windows and everythjing fine06:00
northiejust plugged in an sb live after having naught for sound for a bit, and it won't autowork in ubuntu. can't bear with reinstalling one more time.06:00
CaptainMorgank, so scre that.. Im upgrading to Breezy... and they say it 'may ruin you entire system'... that's comforting06:01
northiean lspci shows the card, but settings/sound won't let me choose it06:01
northiewhat ougt i do?06:01
ubuntuuuuuuuuucoz: No, i already have the older ubuntu...06:01
Subhumanzandaa, good luck with ti anyway06:02
cozubuntuuuuuuuuu OK that may be the reason you don't have add applications in the application menu06:02
SeveasCaptainMorgan, who says that?06:02
cozubuntuuuuu is breezy the only operating system on the hard drive?06:02
zandaaSubhuman, thanks a lot for showing me GAG, seems a lot better/nicer than GRUB anyway06:03
Subhumanzandaa, yeah check it out, itz pretty sweet.06:03
Subhumanread the instructions, itz pretty obvious how to use when it runs though.06:03
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IzzyCCanyone here mind helping me with an install of php5/mysql5 for some $?06:03
Merohv#06:04
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zandaaSubhuman, I bet it will... and I'm good at understanding comp stuff anyway06:04
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MerohellO?06:04
northiean lspci shows my sb live, but system/settings/sound won't let me choose it. what's up?06:04
cozhello Mero06:04
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Subhumanzandaa, ull get it no probs then06:04
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CaptainMorganSeveas: http://ubuntuguide.org/#upgradehoarytobreezy06:05
Dido-I managed to run winesetup and I created /home/dido/.wine/fake_windows , what's next now? How could I run windows programs?06:05
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CaptainMorgandon't matter, still doing it anyway... sick of not having the latest software...06:06
cozCaptaimMorgan haveyou tried Crossover Office?06:06
HymnToLifeDido- > run your windows soft's installation program with wine06:06
CaptainMorgannope.. what's that ?06:06
zandaahey Subhuman, what's your favorite Desktop?? Gnome, KDE, XFCE, fluxbox?06:06
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northiean lspci shows my sb live, but system/settings/sound won't let me choose it. what's up? shouldn't this be supported by default?06:06
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Subhumanzandaa, gnome, but on older machines i use flux.06:07
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cozCrossover office is based on wine allows installation of a few windows apps including photoshop , ms office06:07
zandaaSubhuman, you should try out the XFCE, it's pretty nice06:07
Subhumanzandaa, i used to use KDE, but itz too flashy and i dont need it,06:07
CaptainMorganwhat else???06:07
CaptainMorgangonna have too look into it..06:07
hmpedersenDoes anyone know where to find a breezy deb of Comical? (cbr/cbz reader)06:07
Subhumanzandaa, i used vector which had XFCE4, itz okay, im not too big on it tho,06:07
cozCaptainMorgan unfortunately it is not FREE06:07
Dido-HymnToLife how to do that? when i try to open with a .exe i don't have a wine choice06:07
CaptainMorganhahha06:07
CaptainMorganlol06:07
zandaaSubhuman, I just can't stand KDE <_< because it was on my Red Hat (boring then without internet) setup06:08
CaptainMorganforget that06:08
auraxwho want to have a shot of absinthe with me ?06:08
cozit is somewhat cleanre that wine06:08
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aurax;p06:08
Subhumanzandaa, yeah i had it with SuSe, but i used gnome and then never went back.06:08
cozyeah I have tried it but honestly the only thing that workedwell was ms office apps06:08
SeveasCaptainMorgan, ubuntuguide is the worst piece of crap ever06:09
Seveasapart from automati06:09
Seveasx06:09
zandaaSubhuman, I knew Ubuntu would be a great system considering the screenshots I saw, feedback from friends :)06:09
auraxubuntuguide.org?06:09
cozautomatix rules06:09
KyralSeveas: And we are remaking Automatix06:09
auraxthats like for super-uber-mega-nubies06:09
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HymnToLifeDido- > try right-clicking on it06:09
BlueEaglezandaa: Did you try icewm?06:09
CaptainMorganI disagree Seveas... learned some good tips there..06:09
KyralSeveas: We merged with Keyes again06:09
Subhumanzandaa, well out of all the distros ive used, ubuntu is my fav06:09
zandaaBlueEagle, what's icewm?06:09
auraxcouldnt they just do a massive copy paste thingy06:09
SeveasCaptainMorgan, better read the official docs06:09
auraxlol06:09
northiean lspci shows my sb live, but system/settings/sound won't let me choose it. what's up? shouldn't this be supported by default?06:09
CaptainMorganlinks ?06:09
cozCaptainMorgan I also learned a few good tips there06:09
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HymnToLifeSeveas > what' wrong with Automatix ?06:09
BlueEaglezandaa: A windowmanager. Wasn't that what you were discussing?06:09
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auraxnewbies needs a special copy paste botton06:09
Seveasubuntuguide and automatic have triggerd an awful lot of reinstalls06:09
auraxpoof straight to shell06:10
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auraxtrue that Seveas06:10
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BlueEaglezandaa: I found icewm easily configurable and light weight.06:10
Seveasboth are complete crap06:10
Dido-HymnToLife i've tried, i don't have wine in the list of programs06:10
CaptainMorganI wouldn't say though it's the biggest crapload, or whateer, thre is06:10
cozautomatix has not triggered any reinstalls for me06:10
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Seveascoz, you were lucky06:10
KyralSeveas: Do you object to doing Automatix *RIGHT* (as in the concept)?06:10
cozI have use it for months06:10
SeveasKyral, the concept is broken06:10
HymnToLifeDido- > then run it from a terminal06:10
zandaaBlueEagle, ah ok, I'll give it a go when my ubuntu finishes setup (just sudo apt-get install icewm?)06:10
cozif youhave a clean install of breezy should be no problem06:10
HymnToLifewine ProgramName.exe06:10
KyralSeveas: You mean easy install things?06:10
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BlueEaglezandaa: I guess. try searching icewm and look for interesting packages. :)06:11
Dido-HymnToLife  /home/dido/.wine/fake_windows06:11
Dido-ops06:11
SeveasKyral, no, I mean overwriting configs, doing things behind the users back...06:11
Dido-HymnToLife  bash: wine: command not found06:11
BlueEaglezandaa: aptitude serach icewm06:11
BlueEaglesearch*06:11
HymnToLifeare you sure you have wine installed ?06:11
phil_So, uh basically, you're not allowed to build sources on Ubuntu?06:11
zandaaBlueEagle, will do, gotta go right now though, later all (I use apt-get and apt-cache)06:11
Seveasand mindnumbingly stupid things too06:11
Seveasphil_, ?06:11
KyralSeveas: Like I said, we plan to do it RIGHT. #easyubuntu06:11
qt2my friend's ubuntu box just startedtweaking out.06:11
cozSeveas, "behind users backs" like what???06:11
Dido-HymnToLife  i ran winesetup.. ?06:11
SeveasKyral, I know about the project, let's hope you get it right :)06:11
auraxhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4517962.stm <- this what happend when you use ubuntuguide06:11
KyralSeveas: I feel the same way you do06:12
KyralSeveas: And if it ain't done right, I'll fork it :D06:12
SeveasLOL @ aurax06:12
auraxheh06:12
Seveaslitterally LOL06:12
Dido-HymnToLife see what i've been asking before: Hi! I downloaded Wine using Synapic Pack Manager, but how do I install it? I installed winesetuptk but don't know how to run it.. some help?06:12
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phil_Seveas -- it's sounding like nobody does it on ubuntu (which I'm runbning) and I looked on the web and I see a lot of flack for people trying to build sources on it ... ?06:12
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Seveasphil_, I build sources for breakfast and compile my lunch....06:12
Seveaswhat is the problem you're having?06:13
Kyralphil_: The idea behind Apt (Hell package managers in general) is that you don't HAVE to compile06:13
CaptainMorgani find no need for windows apps such as MS office and a program like crossover when linux provides office apps for free.... butI suppose if ya got the money, you want the toys06:13
HymnToLifeDido- > that's funny...06:13
SubhumanCaptainMorgan, i agree.06:13
phil_Seveas, _you're_ the boss.  Yeah, well that sounds great.  So are you using apt, aptitude, dpkg, dselect to install packages?06:13
Seveasphil_, it is indeed discouraged to build from source when there's a package available, but it would be stupid to forbid anything06:13
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KuyaedzKyral: I agree.  You can (I have, and do) compile programs NOT available in the repositories but apt-get makes it more automated and easier06:13
cozCaptainMorgan, I use xp, vist , and mac and in all honesty openoffice doesn't compare to ms office which is a very elegant pice of software06:13
Seveasphil_, I'm no ones boss... I use apt when available, but have to compile a lot too06:14
BlueEaglephil_: Building from source in most distros are prone to break things when some obscure lib is upgraded. However, if you know what you're doing there's no problem building your own packages.06:14
CaptainMorgani guess Im more rugged :)06:14
Kyralcoz, no offense (okay maybe offense), but sometimes you sound like a MS Fanboy :P06:14
Seveasphil_, are you having a specific problem we can help solve?06:14
cozKyral no not really06:14
cozI just use the best apps avaiable if possible06:15
KyralMS Office? Elegent?06:15
Subhumancoz, windows office 2000 maybe, but office 2003 is so bad.06:15
KyralROFLMAO06:15
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cozmsoffice is the most elegant of the office suites aviaable06:15
BlueEaglephil_: install build_essential and you'll be set to compile your own code. Well apart from any dependency it might need that is.06:15
qt2err, my friend's x stopped working and dmesg is being outputted to the terminal for some reason, i've recently recompiled a kernel, any idea what could be causing it?06:15
cozthat is not my doing06:15
KyralGimme Abiword06:15
Seveasoffice wars -> #ubuntu-offtopic kthxbye06:15
mettallicatcoz, yes .. but OOo 2.0 is going nice :D06:15
Kyralyah agreed06:15
Kyralsorry Seveas06:15
cozI lke abbyword but have you used ms office?06:15
CaptainMorganan application may appear to be more elegant due to the fact that there's thousands of paid workers developing.. open source, we are very luck that people offer their time to the project.. if it gets the job done, Im all for it06:15
Kyralcoz: Yes06:15
cozwell I guess youhave to use what you feel more confortable with06:16
Seveasoffice wars -> #ubuntu-offtopic kthxbye (last time)06:16
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coz On ubuntu I am somewhat stuck with either abbyword or openoffice06:16
BlueEagleqt2: Well, recompiling the kernel will require you to recompile the nvidia kernel modules. Also if you haven't got a system logger all log info is dumped to a terminal.06:16
tech9inermisfit_toy ahem...06:16
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phil_Seveas -- no way to use Synaptic for really up to date packages?06:16
qt2BlueEagle, apparently, a lot of the services failed to start.06:16
BlueEaglecoz: You can get crossoveroffice working on Ubuntu too afaik.06:16
hmpedersenHow do i install a .bin?06:16
IzzyCCis there a difference between ubuntu-5.10-install-amd64.isoubuntu-5.10-install-amd64.iso and selecting "server" at the first prompt for type of install and using the dapper-install-amd64.iso ?06:16
Seveasphil_, Ubuntu is *stable* which means you're not on the absolute bleeding edge06:17
BlueEagleqt2: Well, then apperantly you did something wrong. ;D06:17
qt2lol, probably06:17
qt2but jsut out of curiosity, how doi reconfigure the nvidia for the new kernel?06:17
BlueEagleqt2: Is there a feature missing in the stock kernel that requires you to customize it?06:17
Seveasphil_, if you run the ubuntu devel version you have more up-to-date packages but chances of breaking06:17
qt2BlueEagle, some frequency scaling, and i had to do a kernel hack to foce native p2 support.06:18
qt2*ps/206:18
Seveasphil_, if you really want to be on the bleeding edge and not a little bit back where Ubuntu is, maybe you should try gentoo06:18
KuyaedzlzzyCC: not sure what would be included in the Dapper release since its still in testing & always changing06:18
phil_Seveas -- is there an Ubuntu version for developers that has things like ... uh, gcc06:18
BlueEagleqt2: d/l and install the nvidia kernel module from nvidia.com last time I checked. I haven't reconfigured my kernel in Ubuntu as the stock kernel has got all my needs covered and I am happy with the speed of things.06:18
Seveasphil_, apt-get install gcc06:18
Seveasor better: apt-get install build-essential06:18
BlueEagleqt2: laptop?06:18
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qt2BlueEagle, yep.06:18
Seveas(that's gcc,g++,make,auto*,libc6-dev)06:18
CaptainMorganupgrading to breezy set everything ot default again?06:19
SeveasCaptainMorgan, it's not supposed to06:19
CaptainMorgank06:19
BlueEagleqt2: Well, then I can see the need for recompiling the kernel. However I've never put my hands on freqscale as I haven't got a lappy. :)06:19
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phil_Seveas, can I apt-get without su priv?06:20
northielspci detects my sb live, dmesg does not. gnome won't let me choose it under settings/sound. what's up?06:20
Seveasphil_, no06:20
Seveassudo apt-get install build-essential06:20
phil_seveas, how about sudo06:20
Seveassudo will work (it gives you root privs)06:20
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qt2BlueEagle, lol, ssh is failing to start :P06:20
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_jasonI set my printer to print 3 (or any other number I have tried for that matter) copies but it only prints one, any ideas?06:21
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BlueEagleqt2: Any sensible error messages?06:21
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phil_Seveas, is apt-get install exactly what synaptic does?06:21
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triple5phil_ ye06:21
Seveasphil_, yup06:21
fr500hello06:21
triple5but without the pictures06:22
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phil_Seveas, or actually, how do I get apt-get to install a PARTICULAR version?06:22
fr500does anyone get a crash while opening evolution calendar?06:22
Seveasphil_, if the version is available: apt-get install package/version06:22
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Seveasphil_, apt-cache policy $package06:22
Seveasthat shows available versions06:22
phil_Seveas, do I need to dowload it or specify a location or neither?06:22
Seveasneither06:23
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fr500is there a way to delete an evolution database so i can test if it's my database what causes the crash?06:23
triple5!sources.list06:23
Seveasphil_, so please save the questions (or spam me in a private msg)06:23
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic06:23
phil_Seveas, sorry for the spam, thanks.06:24
poningruphil_: whats wrong?06:24
mevvisI make dist-upgrade from breezy to dapper, and kernel cant load mai hdb with ext306:24
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phil_poningru, I'm just trying to iknstall a new version of something that synaptic can't locate06:24
phil_poningru, what does apt-cache do?06:24
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triple5apt-cache is the same as synaptics search06:25
deltron!java06:25
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs06:25
deltron!javadebs06:25
phil_triple5 so I can do it at the command line?06:25
ubotuwell, javadebs is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/ To install these, open a terminal, cd to the directory you downloaded them to, and type "sudo dpkg -i filename.deb"06:25
triple5when you call it apt-cache search06:25
triple5phil_ yup06:25
poningruphil_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto?action=show&redirect=AptGetHowTo06:25
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poningruthat will have lots of explanation with all the commands06:26
poningruwell it has many commands06:26
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triple5phil_ try : info apt-cache06:26
nadia007Anyone have probs with input/output errors?  I'm trying to run the clear command and this is what I get... actually it's the only thing I get when trying to execute a command!06:26
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phil_triple5 poningru -- thanks I'm going back to the books.06:26
poningrunadia007: what do you mean clear?06:26
poningrunadia007: as in your irc channel?06:27
Ngdeltron: those java debs are a bit out of date, the RestrictedFormats wiki page can help you make your own package with the latest release, if you want06:27
nadia007on the command line on ubuntu, I type clear and I get input/output error.06:27
qt2BlueEagle, looks like its outputting ethernet stuff to terminal06:27
triple5poningru: you have any experience with burning dvd ? I have a disk that I need to burn one-to-one (exactly as it is without transforming or anything...)06:27
poningrutriple5: yeah just use kde06:27
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poningruerr k3b06:27
poningruthat has a dvd copier iirc06:27
BlueEagleqt2: o.O06:27
poningrunadia007: what terminal?06:28
poningruthe gnome terminal?06:28
SechskantschraubHi, does anyone know: Is there an irc-client for ubuntu that supports fservers?06:28
deltronNg: thanks06:28
hmpedersenHow do i install a .bin? (sorry i know im repeating myself)06:28
triple5poningru. k3b is the thing, thanks, how about gnome?06:28
poningruhmm not sure06:28
HymnToLifehmpedersen > chmod06:28
qt2BlueEagle, she uninstalled friestarter.... and it stopped o.O;06:28
purpleheartusmcWhere can I find the hardware support for Ubuntu?  I found a barebones system for less then $200 and want to see if it works06:29
HymnToLifesorry, chmod +x file.bin and then ./file.bin06:29
nadia007yes gnome terminal.06:29
hmpedersenHymn, its a binary installation file..06:29
poningru!hardware06:29
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, hardware is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport06:29
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purpleheartusmcty06:29
poningruyep06:29
poningrunadia007: hmm that is weird06:29
BlueEagleqt2: firestarter stopped when it was uninstalled?? Interesting.06:29
BlueEagleo.O06:29
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HymnToLifelmao BlueEagle06:30
poningrunadia007: what about other terminals?06:30
nadia007I was installing jinzora and updating mysql db and after a while it started to crash...06:30
nadia007crash meaning giving errors like what I was stating.06:30
poningruoh hmm06:31
qt2BlueEagle, indeed it did, and ssh works again o.O;06:31
fr500can anyone try opening evolution, the calendar tab on an up to date system to see if it crashes?06:31
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qt2BlueEagle, as in, it stopped failing.06:31
poningrustop with the o.006:31
BlueEagleqt2: firestarter being a ehh.. firewall of sorts?06:31
qt2poningru, dont be os uptight :/06:31
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qt2BlueEagle, indeed.06:31
BlueEagleqt2: Might sound like you missed some entries for iptables in your kernel config then.06:31
qt2heh06:32
poningrunadia007: pastebin the error06:32
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nadia007how do I do that?06:32
xorediam tryying to set up some routing. kubuntu server is running, 2 network int. ; eth0 -> inet (cable) & eth1 ( internal lan) . But iam somehow failing at the configuration. Any tips ?06:32
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Ngfr500: yup, I can open the calendar fine06:33
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fr500Ng, hmmm it's screwed06:33
BlueDevilanyone familiar with GFS? (Global File System)06:33
XenguyHi folks - I need a bit of help.  I have 2 Ubu boxen on the same subnet, both with identical /etc/apt/sources.list files.  When I run 'apt-get update' on 1 box, everything updates fine; if I run it on the other box, it fails with a 'MD5Sum mismatch' error.  How can I resolve these errors on the 1 box?06:33
poningru!pastebin06:33
ubotumethinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org06:33
vegoshow do you access partitions if grub is malfunctioning06:33
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xorediptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -s 192.168.178.2/24 -j MASQUERADE -> i tried this, but the clients have no access to the internet06:33
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Storkmeehi, i'm having some problems using apt-get. when using "sudo apt-get install gnump3d" i get this result: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5670 . I'm having the same with other packages i try to install too. (ps i'm running server edition of ubuntu)06:34
hmpedersenHymnToLife thanx.. didnt understand u at first :)06:34
qt2BlueEagle, happen to know how i fix the nvidia-glx driver, i removed and reinstalled it via synaptic.06:34
nadia007!pastebin06:34
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ubotupastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org06:34
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HymnToLifeyou're welcome :)06:34
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BlueDevilXenguy: paste the exact error(s) to !pastebin06:34
BlueDevilubotu: tell Xenguy about pastebin06:35
vegoshow do you access partitions if grub is malfunctioning06:35
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BlueEagleqt2: Don't remember, sorry.06:35
XenguyBlueDevil: will do, sec06:35
chris86wmhey guys i am trying to uninstall grub, i typed in fixmbr but when i start windows it comes up with an error saying "<Windows root>/system32/hal.dll" is missing or corrupt. i rebooted into the recovery mode with my windows xp cd. how do i reinstall the file from the command line?06:35
fr500chris86wm, this is ubuntu community support06:35
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BlueEaglechris86wm: http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_haldll_missing.htm06:36
chris86wmyeah i know, i had ubuntu with grub on my laptop. that is what messed it up06:36
Storkmeehi, i'm having some problems using apt-get. when using "sudo apt-get install gnump3d" i get this result: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5670 . I'm having the same with other packages i try to install too. (ps i'm running server edition of ubuntu)06:36
BlueEaglechris86wm: first entry when googling for hal.dll.06:36
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nadia007not much to the error though...  I try to do anything... and I mean anything...  simply trying to clear the screen and I get bash:  /usr/bin/clear: Imput/output error.06:36
phil_poningru -- thanks for the tutorial ... don't know how I never found it.  Problem is, now I do sudo apt-get install packagnem but it can't locate it , any ideas?06:37
northiehaving some sound problems with an sb live. is there a way to reinstall all sound drivers, and have ubuntu (and gnome) redetect the card?06:37
purpleheartusmcIs this supported? http://www.infotechnow.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=105406:37
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poningruphil_: try apt-get upgrade and try the install again06:37
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xorednobody can help ? :/06:37
XenguyBlueDevil: here is the output for the apt-get update md5sum errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/567106:37
purpleheartusmcI know I need an HDD, but I can get those cheap06:38
poningrunadia007: hmm go make sure that /usr/bin/clear is actually there and06:38
phil_poningru, I already upgraded.  I get message: release 'xxx' for 'appname' was ont found06:38
BlueEaglenorthie: "some problems"? What kind of problems? No sound at all?06:38
phil_i tried in formate apt-get install app/version and install app-version neiter came up.06:38
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shivy_Good evening06:38
HymnToLifegreetings shivy_06:39
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poningrunadia007: make sure that the permission on it is correct06:39
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phil_poningru what's the diff between apt-get upgrade and update??  The documentation says to use update.06:40
poningruphil_: I meant update06:40
fr500phil_, update updates the repository data06:40
poningruyeah sorry06:40
fr500upgrade downloads and installs packages06:40
fr500enewer06:41
HymnToLifephil_ > update updates and upgrade upgrades :p06:41
phil_poningru, I just typed apt-get upgrade and it's downloading abunch of stuff06:41
fr500newer packages06:41
Storkmeehi, i'm having some problems using apt-get. when using "sudo apt-get install gnump3d" i get this result: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5670 . I'm having the same with other packages i try to install too. (ps i'm running server edition of ubuntu)06:41
phil_HymnToLife, uh ,the diff being?06:41
HymnToLifefr500 just told you06:41
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phil_Storkmee, does server edition run fast?06:41
KuyaedzStorkmee: try sudo apt-get install -f to 'fix' any problem you might have & try again06:42
poningruphil_: upgrade just downloads and installs newer packages, for example if you are running firefox 1.0.1 it will upgrade to firefox 1.0.706:42
poningruupdate just refreshes your package list06:42
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Xenguyfolks, I am unable to 'apt-get update' due to 'md5sum' errors for the security site (output is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5671).  Can anyone help me get unstuck from these 'md5sum' errors?06:42
phil_poningru: does upgrade actually change the versions or just download them into a list?06:42
KuyaedzStorkmee: it looks like it just has problems with dependent other programs, which, should be fixed using apt-get install -f.  Give it a try, let me know.06:43
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shivy_hey my LS -L gives out some weird unusual output here check this line ->  drw-rw-rwT  9 shivy root 4096 2005-12-11 11:39 data06:43
poningruphil_: it actually changes the version06:43
shivy_it says rwT ?06:43
Ovidiuhi06:43
Kuyaedzphil_: upgrade downloads & installs to the latest version available06:43
shivy_What does T ?06:43
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phil_poningru -- but what does it do if you have apps that are installed outside of the ubuntu base?06:43
Kuyaedzphil_: latest stable version06:43
shivy_I only though you had the rwx output there06:43
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poningruphil_: nothing, for example I have firefox 1.5 installed if I do apt-get upgrade it will do nothing to firefox 1.506:44
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phil_Kuyaedz -- does it install latest version of apps if you've added them from sources yourself, w/o synapteic06:44
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BlueDevilXenguy: do "wget http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz -O - 2>/dev/null | md5sum -b" and tell me the output06:44
phil_poningru does upgrade only upgrade the ubuntu base?06:44
XenguyBlueDevil: OK, will do06:44
Storkmehi, i'm having some problems using apt-get. when using "sudo apt-get install gnump3d" i get this result: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5670 . I'm having the same with other packages i try to install too. (ps i'm running server install of ubuntu)06:44
poningruphil_: it upgrades any packages you have installed through apt06:45
Kuyaedzphil_: I don't believe it will know about those programs.  I believe apt-get works alongside dpkg (which keeps a list of installed packages).  If you've manually installed/compiled the package it probably wont be on that list.06:45
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phil_I guess I'll run a test and see.06:45
KuyaedzStorkme: again, try sudo apt-get install -f06:45
Ovidiuwhat yahoo messenger works on ubuntu?06:45
poningruOvidiu: gaim06:45
poningruOvidiu: and kopete06:45
Ovidiutnq06:45
KuyaedzOvidiu: use gaim06:45
StorkmeKuyaedz, i guess i didn't see you say that before. sorry06:45
XenguyBlueDevil: the is the output: d852e0b664aede8dbd20443ae9bbf700 *-06:46
KuyaedzStorkme: not a problem. Hard to keep track of all the chats in a room this busy06:46
StorkmeKuyaedz, major errors, i'll paste06:46
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phil_poningru: how do I get apt-get to find a package that's not in the ubuntu base of packages, say a scientific app.06:47
StorkmeKuyaedz, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/567206:47
BlueDevilXenguy: the md5 sum is correct, I got the same06:47
dieselStorkme: also paster your sources.list file06:47
poningruphil_: you cant06:47
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XenguyBlueDevil: perhaps there is some way to 'reset' my local record of these md5sums?  I'm dead in the water here06:47
poningruphil_: have you looked into synaptic?06:47
Storkmediesel, where can i find that?06:47
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poningruphil_: its a gui frontend to apt-get06:47
dieselStorkme: /etc/apt/sources.list06:47
XenguyBlueDevil: perhaps I should try synaptic?06:47
phil_poningru--synaptic won't allow me to find the newest version of what I want to install06:47
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Ovidiui lost my root password, what can i do?06:48
phil_what a catch-2206:48
KuyaedzStorkme: yeah, it does look like you're using repositories in your sources.list that aren't valid.  I'll post mine, it should be complete enough for what you need.06:48
poningruphil_: that probably means its not in the repositories06:48
BlueDevilXenguy: yes, try it06:48
phil_yeah, it's not in a repository ... so how to install?06:48
poningrusynaptic will let you install anything you can install through apt-get06:48
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poningruphil_: if its not in the repositories you have to either get the source and compile it yourself06:48
poningruor get the binary and just run it06:48
Storkmediesel and Kuyaedz, here's my source list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/567306:49
fr500Ng, changing theme solves it06:49
poningruphil_: what software are you looking for?06:49
fr500Ng, are you using clearlooks?06:49
phil_poningru -- I can get eitehr source or binaries, how to install?06:49
HappyFoolshivy_: i can't find +T in the info manual06:49
Ngfr500: nope, I use the default theme06:49
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KuyaedzStorkme: try this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/567406:49
fr500Ng, ie: Human theme06:49
fr500Ng, that is clearlooks06:49
Ngfr500: then yes06:49
poningruphil_: what software is it? can you give me the link to the website?06:49
fr500hmmm06:49
fr500weird06:49
abarbacciaanybody here know of a wireless USB adapter that works in ubuntu06:49
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HappyFoolshivy_: there is t (look at ls -ld /tmp), but I don't know what T means06:50
XenguyBlueDevil: I get the following error...06:50
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poningruabarbaccia: tons take a look at the !wifi page06:50
poningru!wifi06:50
ubotuit has been said that wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto06:50
phil_poningru -- how do you normally install soemthing outside of the ubuntu repositories?06:50
holycowanyone here use gparted?  is it a trusted app?06:50
KuyaedzStorkme: part of your problem is you're using the older mirrormax backports.  Try using something similar to my sources.list and you should be fixed06:50
XenguyBlueDevil: The following problems were found on your system:  W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)06:50
qt2okay06:50
dieselStorkme: Those repos look okay, except for the backports...they are not guarenteed to work06:50
trappistholycow: great app06:50
poningruphil_: you can compile the source or install from the binary06:50
qt2this computer is seerly screwed up...06:50
qt2and i get the feeling im only gonna screw it up more..06:50
HappyFoolshivy_: oh, look at the info page for ls -- it's explained there06:50
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TaliskerI'm trying to install mplayer and I get that it has no installation candidate, what should I do?06:51
poningruphil_: for example firefox 1.5 is given as a binary that installs the software06:51
KuyaedzStorkme: again, after you've updated your sources.list be sure to apt-get update & then upgrade.  After that you should be able to install gnump3d just fine06:51
phil_poningru -- what installs the binaries in Ubuntu?06:51
holycowtrappist, never had probs with it? i'm about to move some partitions about on an extra hd.06:51
qt2it's tellng me i cant compile the nvidia stuff because i have a different gcc in use, even though i konow i have the other gcc installed as well..06:51
_jasonubotu, tell Talisker about mplayer06:51
HappyFoolTalisker: what are you using? apt-get, synaptic.. ?06:51
vegosmy grub stopped working, can someone tell me how to startup windows?06:51
dieselStorkme: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install gnump3d06:52
_jasonTalisker, you have to choose a package specific for your architecture, not just 'mplayer'06:52
Oblivion^i've installed mpg123 and cplay, but when i try to play a song in cplay it says player not found, can i somehow tell cplay to use mpg123?06:52
poningruphil_: the binary itself is a script most likely that calls on other files06:52
trappistholycow: it's just a frontend for command-line partitioning tools and is as reliable as those, and they're pretty reliable.06:52
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holycowtrappist, ah cool, thank you06:52
poningruphil_: its too complex for me to explain what software do you want to install?06:52
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vegosmy grub stopped working, can someone tell me how to startup windows?06:52
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poningruphil_: if you can link me to a website I can tell you exactly what to do06:53
poningru!grub06:53
ubotuit has been said that grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting06:53
phil_poningru -- yeah, it's a huge mess of different dependent binaries.  Can't tell you the ware b/c of Christian Heavy Metal content.06:53
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poningruvegos: take a look at the second link06:53
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northieAfter switching sound cards a few times, my sound doesn't work. When I boot from the live cd, my sound works fine from autodetect (sb live!). Could I reset my sound settings or something?06:54
phil_poningru -- thanks for your patience and help.  just kidding about the christian thing, happy holidays.06:54
poningruphil_: hehe yep06:54
northieI don't feel like reinstalling ubuntu again.06:54
Kuyaedznorthie: check out System > Preferences > Sound and specify your card.  You may have to reboot after the change06:54
northieCan't change a card there.06:55
northieIt won't let me choose any.06:55
Kuyaedznorthie: I had the same problem after installing my SB Live 5.1 to replace my onboard.06:55
northielspci shows a detect.06:55
Kuyaedznorthie: so you have just one card installed but no audio-output?06:55
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Oblivion^who can help me with cplay?06:56
northieI do not know what that means.06:56
vegosdoes anyone know how to boot windows by going around grub06:56
northieBut, well, there's just one sound card in there, and I've disabled the onboard.06:56
Kuyaedzvegos: you're most likely going to have to go thru grub.  What happens now? forced boot into Ubuntu?06:56
poningruvegos: just reinstall grub06:56
northieOnly I can't choose anything in settings/sund.06:56
trappistnorthie: sudo modprobe emu10k106:56
northiesound.06:56
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Kuyaedznorthie: ...and you get no sound? Hmm.06:57
vegosi cant reinstall grub because im stuck at an error screen06:57
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vegoscant go to either OS06:57
Kuyaedzvegos: what is your error?06:57
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poningruvegos: whats the error?06:57
stewskianyone got advice on good open source cad or architectural plan drawing software?06:57
northieKuyadez: Yeah. And there's a red X next to the sound volume thingy.06:57
poningrustewski: plenty06:57
poningru!cad06:57
ubotuponingru: Are you smoking crack?06:57
northieTrappist: Doesn't give an echo. Did it do anything?06:57
vegosi was formatting a partition and i think i accedentally deleted some of the grub's files06:57
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trappistnorthie: it should have loaded the driver for sblive! and not echoed anything06:58
stewskireally poningru hit me up with some names06:58
vegosi think it is trying to startup grub, but grub is not there06:58
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poningrustewski: hold on there was a page on the wiki that has a list06:58
trappiststewski: I search freshmeat when I have a question like that06:58
northietrappist:  all should be fine after a restart?06:58
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stewskiBeen on there too many too mention06:58
trappistnorthie: no... if you want the driver to auto-load add 'emu10k1' (without quotes) to /etc/modules06:58
BlueDevilXenguy: you could try removing the lists in /var/lib/apt/lists/ , but that could be potentially harmful, don't know06:59
stewskiI figure this place isnt bad for app advice as well as support though06:59
Kuyaedztrappist: doesn't modprobe -m add that to the modules for you?06:59
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holycowtrappist, indeed, wonderfull application.06:59
northieShould I see some immediate improvement following the modprobe?06:59
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trappiststewski: no problem with that.  I though you were having trouble finding one :)06:59
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trappistKuyaedz: I dunno, I'll have to look into that07:00
Kuyaedznorthie: assuming the modprobe didn't return errors it SHOULD be working now.  Still no sound?07:00
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poningrustewski: yeah I cant find the page guess it got deleted hold on07:00
XenguyBlueDevil: thanks for your efforts; I'm not sure either.  I need to somehow re-initialize my md5sum records I think07:00
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stewskilol with FLOSS the touble is usualy finding the right one :-)07:00
Kuyaedztrappist: I used that for my wireless driver via modprobe..07:00
northieKuyaedz,  Well, still no sound card selectable.07:00
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northieThe "Default Sound Card:" box under preferences/sound is blank.07:00
trappistKuyaedz: I see nothing about it in man modprobe07:01
Seveasphil_, *ping*07:01
northieVolume control echoes: The volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control. This means either that you don't have the right GStreamer plugins installed, or that you don't have a sound card configured.07:01
Seveasdid you have more questions?07:01
Kuyaedzstewski: Add Applications lists QCad for a CAD system..07:01
Dido-I got this error: Failed to fetch http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/binary/wine_0.9.3-winehq-1_i386.deb , how should I keep trying to get this package manually?07:01
stewskiIm not averse to inkscape so It may be a case of finding some good floor plan piece parts07:01
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trappistwhy doesn't ubuntu ship with alsaconf?  it's perfect for problems like northie's07:02
poningrustewski: try what Kuyaedz said qcad07:02
northieOught I dl alsaconf?07:02
stewskiQ cads what Ive seen tipped but I couldnt see much in the way of pre built architects stuff07:02
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BlueDevilSeveas: do you know by any chance if "connect to console session" support will be added to freenx soon or ever? :)07:02
poningruhmm07:02
Kuyaedzstewski: I've never installed/played with CAD programs under linux so I couldn't suggest one, but that is listed in the Add Applications07:02
Seveasever, not soon07:02
Oblivion^when i do mpg321 <mp3file> it plays my mp3-file, but when i use cplay it says it cant find my player. any way to fix this?07:02
fr500is there a way i can backup my dpkg database, so after a format i can mark all the software i have installed now and reinstall everything?07:03
poningrustewski: if you are looking for floor plan07:03
Seveasdon't use cplay :)07:03
Seveasor use an esd version of it07:03
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BlueDevilthanks07:03
KuyaedzSeveas: lol07:03
Fujoorquit07:03
fr500mannn i screwed it up badly07:03
Dido-I got this error: Failed to fetch http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/binary/wine_0.9.3-winehq-1_i386.deb , how should I keep trying to get this package manually?07:03
Oblivion^Seveas: then what do i use? i need something for the console. and what's the esd version ?07:04
fr500clearlooks was making some apps crash, and i removed it07:04
stewskidont keep me in suspense poningru :-)07:04
JasonI've got an issue with ubuntu on my laptop. But it's not an ubuntu specific issue. The problem is that I upgraded my laptop from a MT-30 (1.6ghz) to a MT-40 (2.2ghz) and cpu throttling no longer works. powernowd in dmsg says it's not supported. I tried to compile 2.6.14 (2.6.13 includes amd's powernowd-k8 code) and still no luck. Anyone else know about this issue or have a workaround?07:04
fr500but it removed a lot of stuff07:04
SeveasOblivion^, isn't mpg321 enough?07:04
KuyaedzDido-: are you trying to install wine from the source or have you tried the package version?07:04
poningrustewski: hehe hold on07:04
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Ngfr500: install ubuntu-desktop07:04
Dido-Kuyaedz i'm trying with the package manager07:04
poningrustewski: http://www.tech-edv.co.at/lunix/CADlinks.html07:04
Ngfr500: that should pull everything back in07:04
northietrappist, isn't emu10k1 already in modules?07:04
Oblivion^Seveas: i don't know of a way to open playlists in mpg32107:04
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poningruI am looking through that07:05
northietrappist, Whereabouts should I add it, anyhow?07:05
fr500Ng, not anymore i think, if you chck it to remove it's no logner related to everything07:05
KuyaedzDido-: apt-get install wine gives you that error?07:05
northietrappist, It's a big file full of strange writings.07:05
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trappistnorthie: anywhere should be fine07:05
Dido-Kuyaedz let me try now07:05
Ngfr500: eh? ;)07:05
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Ngfr500: the package has a huge Depends line, if you install it, it'll pull back in those dependencies07:05
KuyaedzI love that northie.. 'strange writings' :)07:05
fr500Ng oh well i thoght that had changed07:06
northiewuv07:06
poningrubrb07:06
northieMy main reason for getting sound is to have my Indiana Jones soundtrack follow these code excavations.07:06
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christianpdoes anyone can help me in finding a good tool to rip DVD? I want to convert my handycam video into divx.07:06
Ngfr500: not as far as I can see - if ubuntu-desktop didn't depend on anything then it would have no point, it's just a metapackage07:06
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northietrappist, What was that about alsaconf?07:07
KuyaedzNg/fr500: ubuntu-desktop is safely removable07:07
NgKuyaedz: that's not what we're talking about ;)07:07
Dido-Kuyaedz WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!07:07
Dido-  wine07:07
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trappistnorthie: alsaconf would fix this for you very easily if ubuntu shipped it.  you might consider downloading it.07:07
Seveas!info alsaconf07:07
northietrappist, it's not in synaptic, is it?07:07
KuyaedzDido-: you should be ok with installing that.  Its just from an outside repository that isn't authenticated.  I've got a few 'un-authenticated' programs installed..07:08
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trappistnorthie: no07:08
KuyaedzNg: I guess I'm trying to get into too many conversations at once ;)07:08
Dido-Kuyaedz right, i'll try now. thanks07:08
Dido-;)07:08
northieOh well, I've got a good feeling. Thanks trappist and Kuyaedz.07:08
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northieI'll reinstall if it won't work now. It's just the principle of the thing. If it works from the live cd then it ought to be easy to work now :p07:09
Kuyaedzcan anyone tell me how to process updates for my entire LAN without manually SSHing into each box?07:10
Dido-Is there a possibilty to edit my curret keyboard layout07:10
linuksoHi! I wonder who decides what is backported to breezy, and whats not?07:11
KuyaedzDido-: check out System > Preferences > Keyboard and poke around07:11
fr500Ng, weee it worked07:11
Ng:)07:11
fr500and fixed evolution07:11
kmaynardgarr...cant log in to phpmyadmin07:11
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Ngexcellent, but weird07:11
fr500maybe it were the cairo enabled clearlloks i had07:11
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Dido-Kuyaedz i've tried this already, can't find there such options07:12
skarhi, tried exporting a sample "test pdf" file into a pdf and it is around 110K, how can 2 words "test pdf" create a pdf of 110K?07:12
skarany idea to reduce the size?07:12
KuyaedzDido-: what is it you're specifically trying to do?07:12
hmpedersenNe1 know how to get internet explorer workin on ubuntu?07:13
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Kagura_Use firefox it can do everything IE can.07:13
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phrockerhey07:13
phrockermake: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build: File or directory not found. Stop.07:13
northie:/07:13
phrockerWhere I fount this directory?07:13
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KuyaedzKagura_: technically, yeah, but some sites require IE (which is lame)07:13
Dido-Kuyaedz now the layout is BDS (bulgarian standart or sumting like that) I want to change it to bulgarian phonetic, i want to change the buttons somehow07:14
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Kuyaedzhmpedersen: use firefox where available, but to use IE you'd have to get into installing WINE to emulate windows programs.07:14
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hmpedersenKagura, no it cant.. Besides, my question was how to install..07:14
Kagura_But if you insist on using IE wine can run it also another trick would be to set the browser to ID it'sself as IE.07:14
northietrappist, No luck. aplay -l gives No soundcards found.07:14
hmpedersenkuyaedz, i know.. i have wine.. IE started installing, then stopped and complained about wrong OS..07:14
Kagura_Most of these IE only sites do a stupid redirecting trick based on the recieved browser version.07:15
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northietrappist, But still, lspci finds it.07:15
KuyaedzKagura_: where is that option in firefox?  I have a work-related site that requires IE and I have never been able to figure it out07:15
phrockersomebody can I help me?07:15
mrkojephrocker,  what do you need help with?07:15
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phrockermrkoje,  make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build: File or directory not found. Stop.07:15
hmpedersenKuyaedz, you need to install the agent-switch plugin..07:15
phrockermrkoje, where I found this directory? what package?07:15
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kakeihi any idea if existe w64codecs of similar ?07:16
mrkojephrocker,  I'm not sure what your talking about07:16
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mrkojephrocker, sorry07:16
phrockermrkoje, tks07:16
skarhi, any one know how to upgrade OO2(1.9.x) shipped with breezy to the final 2.0.0 release?07:16
CaptainMorgan dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. << what is dpkg ?07:16
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mrkoje!dpkg07:17
CaptainMorganhow do i run configure -a ?07:17
mrkojeubotu tell CaptainMorgan about !dpkg07:17
kvidelloh my god, it's a dream come true07:17
meepy!dpkg07:17
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kvidellthank you.07:18
hmpedersencaptainmorgan did you tey dpkg --configure -a07:18
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hmpedersentry*07:18
skarhi, any one know how to upgrade OO2(1.9.x build) shipped with breezy to the final 2.0.0 release?07:18
Kagura_As far as I know there are no W64 codec solution yet other then using a 32bit mplayer.07:18
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mrkoje!beer07:18
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Kagura_I had to run a 32bit firefox so I can use flash.07:18
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Ngskar: there isn't a simple way at the moment as far as I know07:19
advent_linuxcan someone do me a favour and try and ssh to: rose.homelinux.net07:19
advent_linuxtrying to set up dyndns07:19
Ngadvent_linux: that hostname resolves to 192.168.1.4 at the moment, so no ;)07:19
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advent_linuxthats strange07:20
Dido-Is there a possibilty to edit my curret keyboard layout? I want to change the buttons somehow, for exaple I want when pressing A, B to be displayed..07:20
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zulfiqari have installed xfce just now and now how do i cange from gnome desktop to xfce?07:20
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hmpedersenNow.. I need ie6 and wmp9 installed to access the webtv i pay for.. neither of them will install trough wine :(07:20
Kagura_I wonder if it might be possible to make a wrapper to use OSX X86 codecs in linux as these might be avilable before then windows 64 ones are.07:21
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Kagura_You could try running windows under vmware.07:21
skarNg: 1.9.x oo2 is creating BIG 450K pdf for 15K odt files, while 2.0 final for my gentoo build is doing the pdf at 80K :(07:21
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NgDido-: it can be done, but I don't think there are any easy tools to do it. You'd need to reconfigure XKB07:21
skarNg: seems copying the gentoo oo2 files or using oo2 from oo.org site is the way to go?07:21
Ngskar: I wouldn't copy the files from gentoo, but yaeh07:22
hmpedersenKagura.. Vmware on a 5 year old laptop?07:22
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Kagura_Wedtv yah that would be one site that actually would use some IE fetures but I find sites that are IE only a dumb idea.07:22
skarNg: hmmm why cant ubuntu have the final oo2 release, instead some crappy buggy 1.9.129 something?!?07:22
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Dido-Ng let me try this, how can i reach XKB07:22
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hmpedersenbah.. i give up!07:23
skarNg: particularly for an all important package like oo2 ;)07:23
Davethewaveeveryone miss me?07:23
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hmpedersenIm gonna go boot the machine runnin windows and watch it07:23
Ngskar: the policy is that after a release they only put security/grave bugfixes in, otherwise they'd spend the whole time updating breezy when they should be working on dapper07:23
hmpedersenonly 30 minutes till next episode, and i want to watch yesterdays episode first07:24
hmpedersenno more time to try get it running here07:24
Ngskar: at some point I expect a backport will appear though07:24
NgDido-: it's part of the X server07:24
NgDido-: see the xkbutils package as a starting point, also google07:24
Kagura_I think I might have found a kernel and fglrx driver version conflict when I was setting up my myth tv box.07:24
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skarNg: oh ok07:25
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Kagura_That or an incompatibility with the AMD64-gart driver and the SIS 755 chipset.07:25
skarNg: at least they could've given oo 1.5 instead, which is a stable release iirc07:26
Ngskar: don't think so07:26
zulfiqarcan someone tell me how to switch to xfce once installed from package manager?07:26
Ngskar: 1.1.507:26
qt2well.. this is strange... the ssh is incredily laggy as hell.07:27
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kvidellzulfiqar: log out, hit F10 at the login screen, click "Sessions", select XFCE, enter your sign-in information as normal.07:27
Kagura_Well so much for a low noise solution the only card that worked right was a geforce 5985 I had on hand.07:27
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Ngskar: which should be available in universe still07:27
ToR911when i try to isntal vmware tools, it tells me that my gcc version 4.0.? is too high because the kernel was compiled on a lower version, what should i do?07:27
zandaaSubhuman, you there?07:27
Jasontor911, install the required GCC version, and export GCC=/path/to/3.4gcc and it will function perfectly fine.07:28
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skarNg: hmm can 1.1.5 and 2 co-exist w/o corrupting each other?07:28
Ngskar: yep07:28
VIPER^|^hello there anybody can help me plz am getting this error07:28
VIPER^|^stubs-zlib.c:174: error: `Z_OK' undeclared (first use in this function)07:28
VIPER^|^make[1] : *** [stubs-zlib.o]  Error 207:28
VIPER^|^make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/rami/Desktop/SKS Project/sks-1.0.10/cryptokit-1.0'07:28
VIPER^|^make: *** [cryptokit-1.0/cryptokit.cma]  Error 207:28
ToR911jason, then i need to put it back to gcc 4.0.? , right?07:28
Kagura_Has anyone else ran into a problem with the kernel DRM driver not loading for ATI cards on any AMD-64 based chipset?07:28
Jasontor, you can have 3.4 and 4.0 installed at the same time. just export GCC to the old 3.4 whenever you need it.07:29
NgVIPER^|^: we're not really here to support random compilation problems ;)07:29
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Jasonif anyone knows anything about powernow, i posted a question on the forum with all the details I could think of. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=56711007:30
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VIPER^|^sorry but am asking if some1 has any idea07:30
VIPER^|^cant i ??07:30
ToR911k07:30
ToR911ty07:30
holycow*hmmm* having defaults as an option in fstab should give all users on the system write access to a mounted drive, correct?07:30
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jendaOf course you can, VIPER^|^07:30
Ngholycow: nope07:30
VIPER^|^thanks jenda07:30
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pozdiyhow to make xdm to be a default manager without removing gdm?07:30
VIPER^|^plz cani any1 help me07:30
ToR911btw is this normal :) : kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-bloack(0, 0)07:31
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zandaaSubhuman??? any help?07:31
Subhuman?07:31
ToR911i change the root's password last session if it matters..07:31
dashinhoHello, fast question, do I have to install something to use cgi scripts on my apache installation?07:31
zandaaSubhuman, GAG can't load Ubuntu07:31
Subhumanzandaa, whats up?07:31
holycowNg, oh ... i tried just rw that didn't work either ... k. more googling07:31
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Subhumandid u select the correct partiton07:32
Subhuman1 sec07:32
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zandaaSubhuman, I'm sure I did07:32
_willcooke_dashinho, it depends what language the cgi is written in07:32
VIPER^|^hello there anybody can help me plz am getting this error07:32
dashinho_willcooke_, perl/python07:32
VIPER^|^stubs-zlib.c:174: error: `Z_OK' undeclared (first use in this function)07:32
VIPER^|^make[1] : *** [stubs-zlib.o]  Error 207:32
VIPER^|^make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/rami/Desktop/SKS Project/sks-1.0.10/cryptokit-1.0'07:32
VIPER^|^make: *** [cryptokit-1.0/cryptokit.cma]  Error 207:32
Ngholycow: look at the uid and gid mount options - you'll need to mount the share such that its ownership/permissions allow people access, or you can specify the "user" option to allow a single user to mount and have access07:32
Subhumanback07:32
pozdiypozdiy, dpkg-reconfigure xdm07:32
Subhumanand what did it say?07:32
zandaaSubhuman, I'm sure I did07:32
NgVIPER^|^: please don't paste errors here, use a pastebin07:32
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VIPER^|^ok07:32
holycowNg, oh!07:32
typoanyone know how I can change the color temperature of my laptop's LCD?07:32
Subhuman!tell VIPER^|^ about pastebin07:32
VIPER^|^but can any1 read the error to guide me plz07:32
holycowallright, thanks!07:32
Kagura_What chipset is it?07:32
zandaasubhuman, it said some kinda thing about sectors etc. (I have both Win + Lin on the same HD)07:33
_willcooke_dashinho, ok, you should have all the correct bits installed already, you need to change your apache config to tell it that extenstion ".pl" or ".py" are cgi07:33
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Ratty_hiya07:33
Kagura_If it's an ATi or nvidia based chipset it's easy.07:33
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northieAfter a few sound card switches, my sb live! works at a live cd boot but not from within main drive ubuntu. Can I somehow reset my hardware detection?07:33
NgVIPER^|^: you will get on far better asking for support from whoever's code that is you're trying to compile - that is a fairly generic error and you haven't even said what you're trying to compile ;)07:33
Subhumanhmm, so did u get the linux boot menu at all?07:33
zandaaSubhuman, nope07:33
_willcooke_dashinho, apache 2 or 1?  1 is easier in my opinion.07:33
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derek[] Hi07:33
zandaaSubhuman, the bootloader just sat there... only thing I could do was boot to windows07:33
Ratty_i have a broken icon in my nautils toolbar, how do i fix it? it's broken on every theme, even the default human theme: http://junk.shitsoftware.com/broken.png07:33
ToR911what do i do???:    kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-bloack(0, 0)07:33
VIPER^|^i only wanted some1 to answer me to tell him , am compiling sks source code07:34
derek[] what's the repository to get the latest xchat/07:34
derek[] ?07:34
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Rev-MarcI am in need of backing up a directory on one computer to a second computer across the internet on a weekly basis any help greatly appreciated07:34
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ClayGhey gang07:34
_jasonderek[] , backports07:34
Subhumanhmmm, well it might be something to do with the ubuntu partition, it might not be flagged as bootable.07:34
ClayGanyway to buy a domain name and use it for my small network at home?07:34
VIPER^|^Ng, can u help me07:34
ToR911clayG, yeh07:35
ClayGwithout setting up nameservers on the local machines (which i thought is the only way)07:35
derek[] _jason, ? sorry, i didn't understand07:35
ClayGahhh07:35
Kagura_What X driver are you using on the laptop?07:35
ClayGToR911: lay it on me!07:35
Subhumananyway zandaa im off for a bit now, sorry about it, google might be of help here07:35
zandaaSubhuman, ok, thnx07:35
_jasonderek[] , the backports repo has xchat 2.607:35
ToR911clayg: u want one domain name for ur entire local network, right?07:35
NgVIPER^|^: not really, I've never compiled sks and that error suggests the code is wrong07:35
ClayGyes for my 4 node network ;)07:35
Rev-MarcI am in need of backing up a directory on one computer to a second computer across the internet on a weekly basis any help greatly appreciated07:35
northiehelp: After a few sound card switches, my sb live! works at a live cd boot but not from within main drive ubuntu. Can I reset my hardware detection?07:36
derek[] _jason, address?07:36
ClayGwithout dyndns. i have that now, and i agree it's GREAT07:36
NgVIPER^|^: I strongly advise you contact the SKS project for help compiling their software07:36
_jasonubotu, tell derek[]  about easysource07:36
ClayGbut I want a "real" domain name07:36
ClayGand i want to do it the real way07:36
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VIPER^|^Ng, aha ok thanks man i only wanted an advice u know(to be guided)07:36
Ng:)07:36
ToR911clayg: 2 ways, 1) cheap way, get a free dyndns.org  domain IE: clayg.dyndns.org  - u put a program that checks ur ip every few hours and updates te domain to ur current dynamic ip07:36
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_willcooke_dashinho, have a look on google, the line you want is "AddHandler", you'll need to put ".py" or ".pl" on there.  Sorry, I'm not familiar with apache2 yet07:37
ClayGnope got that already07:37
NgClayG: get a static IP is the best route :)07:37
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ToR9112) u buy a domain name from ur ISP, with a static ip, and they set up all the nameserver settigns on their nameserver07:37
Rev-Marcno answer no joy later07:37
ClayGhmmmm07:37
ClayGI see07:37
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ClayGI dont like those options07:38
Vale ragazzi questo sito  una figata http://www.codif.altervista.org07:38
ClayGhehehe07:38
ClayGthat's gonne kiill me on cost07:38
_willcooke_dashinho, oh, and you'll need to make sure your scripts start with #!/path/to/python/bin07:38
ClayGyou guys know about those free belgium domain names till 2006?07:38
ClayG.be's07:38
northiehelp: After a few sound card switches, my sb live! works at a live cd boot but not from within main drive ubuntu. Can I reset my hardware detection?07:38
ToR911clayg, domains, cost 100-200$ for 2 years07:38
ToR911no07:38
ClayGwaht?!07:38
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ClayGnah yahoo has them for 2.9907:38
Oblivion^100-200$ :|07:38
ClayGnetfirms 4.9907:38
KuyaedzToR911: where do you get those numbers?07:38
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ClayG.be's are free now07:39
NgToR911: nonsense, domains cost nothing like that these days :)07:39
ToR911yeh07:39
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ToR911but a .com costs07:39
ClayGYahoo has them for 2.9907:39
ClayGno .COM!07:39
ClayGANYTHING07:39
KuyaedzI've got four personally hosted domains & I spent $7.95 for each of them07:39
ClayG2.9907:39
ClayGnetfirms anything 4.9907:39
Oblivion^ClayG: how can you get a free .be domain then? i've looked for it but i couldn't find it07:39
ClayGOblivion^: there is only one legit place now07:39
ClayGpeep this07:39
Valehttp://www.codif.altervista.org  its beutiful!07:39
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NgToR911: rubbish07:39
NgToR911: a domain costs about $30 a year07:39
ClayGeurodns.com07:39
Ng(.com)07:39
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ClayGim gonna grab some right now before they get eaten up07:40
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Oblivion^ty07:40
KuyaedzNg/ToR911: sounds like you guys are quoting hosting prices.  Domains are under $10 everywhere07:40
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ToR911k07:40
NgKuyaedz: depends where you go, but yeah, they're damn cheap these days07:40
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Ngyour dollars are worth nothing anyway, so 10 or 30 makes little difference to me ;)07:41
ToR911last time i checked was 2 years ago so i'm not updated :)07:41
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KuyaedzNg: yeah, prices vary, but the most I've spent (on 6 personal domains) are $7.95, cheapest is $2.9907:41
meepyAnyone know why my BMP player stops playing a song if my cpu works a little, or i open a program?07:41
ClayGKuyaedz: yes yahoo has them for the low low , followed by netfirms07:41
Valehttp://www.codif.altervista.org    its beutiful!!     http://www.codif.altervista.org    its beutiful!!   http://www.codif.altervista.org    its beutiful!!07:41
Ngit's all about having a .net anyway :)07:41
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zandaaanyone know a good boot loader besides GRUB, LILO or GAG?07:41
ClayGhmmm07:41
ClayGnice check this otu07:41
zandaa(graphical preferred)07:41
ClayGhttp://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.1007:41
ClayGhow to set up an ISP server at home!07:42
ClayGI have rickred.homelinux.com now, it's brand new and not even read07:42
ClayGhttp goes to a machine named rider07:42
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ClayGssh goes to a machine named,,.......ubuntu (lame i know , oh well)07:42
Valehttp://www.codif.altervista.org    its beutiful!!    http://www.codif.altervista.org    its beutiful!!     http://www.codif.altervista.org    its beutiful!!07:43
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ClayGhere we go gang  "DNS Server: BIND9" looks like that is what's needed07:43
Kagura_Nice site I'm going to try this one http://www.howtoforge.com/boot_debian_from_external_firewire07:43
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cwinhow can i get a fujitsu fdx310 usb dsl modem working in ubuntu? There are drivers at http://dsl-linux.tripod.com/index/ but this system is still not connected onto a network so I can't get the tools required to compile it07:43
TylerDurdenSalve07:43
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Kagura_I never touched USB modems.07:44
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techrushhi07:45
Kagura_I made those SOBs give me an ethernet connected modem.07:45
hmpedersenIs there a way to get wine to start a program in full screen=07:45
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skonHello I'm trying to use apt-get to get libqt3-mt-dev and it says the package is broken...can anyone help ?07:45
Kagura_One way to get better service from an ISP tell them you'er on a mac.07:45
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Valehttp://www.codif.altervista.org    its beutiful!!    http://www.codif.altervista.org    its beutiful!!   http://www.codif.altervista.org    its beutiful!!07:46
zandaaanyone know a good boot loader?07:46
Kuyaedzskon: have you tried apt-get install -f ?07:46
skonKuyaedz: yes taht doesn't work07:46
Kagura_grub works good on X86 for me while yaboot works well on macs.07:46
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NgVale: shoosh ;)07:46
northiehelp: my sb live! works at a live cd boot but not in main drive ubuntu. Can I reset my hardware detection or something?07:46
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cwinKagura_, yeah... except these drivers do have mac support apparently ;)07:47
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Kagura_This is a cable modem right?07:47
cwinwell.. DSL07:47
Kagura_I never seen a  dsl modem with no ethernet.07:47
zandaaKagura_ I'm searching for an alternative to GRUB07:48
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cwinwell.. this is one without ethernet07:48
zandaabrb07:48
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pdani_hi07:48
Kagura_Tell them it's broken and demand one with ethernet.07:48
Kagura_That or just buy one from best buy or ask for the 2wire modem router combo.07:48
DoobryHello, bit of a noob question I guess but anyone any idea why my system wouldn't be allowing me to use more than 1024x768 when the DVD Live ran at 1280x1024?07:48
cwinwell, i've got a gentoo system (obviously with a completely working build environment) but this is for a friend with the fdx310..07:49
pdani_where can i get the ubuntu patches for 2.6.12 kernel?07:49
cwinnot sure how to make ubuntu packages or anything though07:49
Valehttp://www.codif.altervista.org    its beutiful!!    http://www.codif.altervista.org    its beutiful!!  http://www.codif.altervista.org    its beutiful!!07:49
Valehttp://www.codif.altervista.org    its beutiful!!   http://www.codif.altervista.org    its beutiful!!   http://www.codif.altervista.org    its beutiful!!07:49
NgVale: stop that07:49
Valehttp://www.codif.altervista.org    its beutiful!!    http://www.codif.altervista.org    its beutiful!!   http://www.codif.altervista.org    its beutiful!!07:49
Ng!ops07:49
ubotuHelp! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth07:49
ClayGhey07:49
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ClayGyeah cut that out07:49
Valehttp://www.codif.altervista.org    its beutiful!!    who is07:49
Kagura_Spammer.07:49
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Seveasstupid mofo07:49
ClayGjust ignore him07:49
ClayGSeveas i think i found a work around07:50
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derek[] http://pastebin.com/46119007:50
SeveasClayG, for what?07:50
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ClayGmy domain name at home trick07:50
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Seveasah :)07:50
ClayGif it works ill be connecting under my new domain07:50
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techrushhow long is www.gnome-look.org going to be down :((((07:51
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naliothspamvertising is simply hideous07:51
Gul3hello! how do i extract a xbox iso in ubuntu...? help please..07:51
oxezisn't that illegal?07:51
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testmachinewhats illegal?07:52
Gul3oxez: depends on whats in the iso:)07:52
zandaaGul3, I don't think emulation should be discussed here07:52
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Kagura_ubuntu on an Xbox isn't the ram a little tight on those for ubuntu?07:52
leedhello all07:52
skonNobody can help me with why my libqt3-mt-dev package is broken?07:52
Kuyaedzskon: try using 'fix broken' in synaptic to fix that issue07:52
Gul3zandaa: this is not a emulation related question..07:52
Kagura_emulation is ok the xbox has yet to have a decincet emulator07:53
tobi-wanskon: trying to install skype?07:53
skonNo...trying to compile a WiFi driver07:53
Kagura_I mean who plays snes games ona real snes anymore?07:53
zandaaGul3, sorry then07:53
zandaaKagura_ I play NES games on a real NES if it matter:P07:53
Gul3zandaa: ok:)07:53
Gul3anybody know what i have to do?07:54
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Kagura_I hasn't owned an NEs in a long time though I still have an apple IIe.07:54
DoobryHello, bit of a noob question I guess but anyone any idea why my system wouldn't be allowing me to use more than 1024x768 when the DVD Live ran at 1280x1024? (repeated thanks to pesky spammer)07:54
deltronhehe, I love my SNES system07:54
zandaaif I want to use a boot-loader other than GRUB, do I have to make a boot partition for linux?07:54
skonZandaa: no07:55
Kagura_I make my sempron box on my big screen play those old games.07:55
sethkzandaa, you don't have to make a boot partition regardless of the boot loader07:55
skonNo boot partition....either install it on the MBR or on the first sector of the boot record07:55
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mkyb14I know that Imagemagick was installed with the base install of ubuntu, but whereis command isn't finding it. does anyone know where it is located?07:55
zandaaskon, because this GAG bootloader doesn't wanna boot my Ubuntu :(07:55
skonHmm I've never worked with GAG, I can't help you sorry07:55
sethkthe presence or absence of a boot partition is orthogonal to the location of installation of the boot loader07:55
Kagura_I hate to spammertize but those sempron 64s area very good buy it's almost as fast as one core on my AMDX2 box after I got done OCing it.07:55
sethkzandaa, what happens?07:56
zandaasethk, once I try to use GAG to boot my Ubuntu partition, it says something about sector failure and stuff07:56
Kagura_I sugest you use a nvidia videocard if you use an SIS755 or KT800 chipset with them.07:56
sethkzandaa, I might be able to say something intelligent, but I would need the error message, not a few words that may have been in the error message07:56
tobi-wanmkyb14: imagemagick is a collection of tools, there is no such executable as "imagemagick" (there is "convert", for instance)07:56
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zandaasethk, I'll check once again... is there any way to put the grub-installer on a floppy disk?07:57
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Kagura_For some odd reason the fglrx driver hates the agpgart on those.07:57
mkyb14tobi-wan: i need the path for gallery2 so that it can redo the images07:57
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sethkzandaa, sure, on a floppy or on a cde07:57
sethks/cde/cd/07:57
tobi-wanmkyb14: ah, i see.... for me, gallery2 automatically found it.... what is it asking for, exactly...07:57
zandaasethk, how do I do that then?07:57
sethkzandaa, do info grub, it gives a reasonably complete explanation.  Or look up a howto, there are several about07:58
sethkzandaa, info grub   has a procedure.07:58
tobi-wanmkyb14: you could try /usr/bin, that's where my convert command is07:58
zandaasethk, ok, I'll keep that as backup boot loader then once GAG fails07:58
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mkyb14tobi-wan: it's asking for the dir " Directory to ImageMagick/GraphicsMagick binaries" with a blank for the information07:58
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sethkzandaa, basically you just say setup (fd0), once everything else in the config file is correct07:58
Kagura_Can't find anything in the xorg.log except drm module failed to load.07:58
zandaasethk, darnit... the comp I'm currently running Live on doesn't have floppy <_<07:58
tobi-wanmkyb14: try /usr/bin07:58
mkyb14one sec07:59
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fredlhi. Does anybody know dotdeb.org?07:59
sethkzandaa, I've done it on a cd/r, although it was a few months ago and I'd have to look up how I did it.07:59
mkyb14tobi-wan: failed ...   x11folder??07:59
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meepyHow do I add a trashcan on the desktop? :/07:59
sethkzandaa, or you could download an iso of what I did.  I'll put one up later if you haven't figured it out by this evening07:59
zandaasethk, <_< don't have any empty CDs anymore, so that's not gonna work07:59
eSPetehow rod i mount a usb pen whne i dont use gnome/knde?07:59
eSPete*kde08:00
fredlI see that dotdeb.org has php5 debs....08:00
tobi-wanmkyb14: x11folder?08:00
fredlhas anybody tried these php5 debs from dotdeb.org?08:00
sethkzandaa, well, you have to boot from somewhere.  Why not just use grub in the typical way?  I don't remember why you were trying to use a different boot loader08:00
deltronfredl: debian != ubuntu08:00
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mkyb14tobi-wan: it gives me a list of folders to choose from but i cant' find the one that has it.08:00
tobi-wanmkyb14: try "which convert", it should give you the binary path08:00
tobi-wanhmm.......08:00
varsendaggerhey08:00
mkyb14in ssh?08:00
fredldeltron - I know.08:01
Kagura_I wonder if I should dump my old P4 box at the goodwill.08:01
tobi-wanmkyb14: yep08:01
mkyb14ok onse sec08:01
deltronas far as I know, debian debs won't work in ubuntu08:01
techrushwhy would you dump a p4 at goodwill08:01
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Kagura_Even the damn sempron is faster then it thats why.08:01
varsendaggerdeltron, how do you figure?08:01
techrushic08:01
deltronvarsendagger: just what i've read in here08:01
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fredldeltron - could be, since dependencies may differ on details.08:02
deltron!debian08:02
ubotuDebian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded"; see http://www.debian.org Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9.  Debian and Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/08:02
mkyb14tobi-wan: it gave me nothing.  just the terminal again08:02
Kagura_Yah it's an old norwood core.08:02
tobi-wandeltron: well, most deb's do work08:02
tobi-wanmkyb14: which means that imagemagick is not installed08:02
deltronrighto08:02
mkyb14bummer, it said that it was08:02
techrushsometimes i hear my laptop mack this loud CRACKING noise08:02
zandaahey sethk, if I can't get the GRUB to work... can't I just pop in the install CD, skip all the installation up till GRUB?08:02
techrush:(08:02
techrushscares me08:02
Kagura_Unplug it now08:03
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fredltobi-wan - on #debian it's frowned on to add lines to sources.list. Probably should be frowned on on Ubuntu as well, but I'd really like to try out mysql 508:03
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northiemy sb live! works at a live cd boot but not in main drive ubuntu. Can I reset my hardware detection or something?08:03
Kagura_I had one do that the battery cells exploded08:03
techrush:(08:03
meepyHow do I add a trashcan on the desktop? :/08:03
deltronwhy is it frowned upon? I add lines to my list...08:03
Kagura_Didn't catch on fire as this was a toshiba.08:03
tobi-wanfredl: i tried mysql5 on ubuntu and it worked08:03
techrushit sounds more like the case expanding08:03
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techrushwhen its first warming up08:03
techrushcuz its kinda chilly in my room08:04
sethkzandaa, yes.  the easiest way is to download the fedora rescue cd, then at the boot prompt type enter, then do the chroot command that it suggests you do, and you are in08:04
techrushmine is a toshiba too though08:04
fredltobi-wan - from the dotdeb.org site by any chance or did you compile it yourself?08:04
techrushi hope it doesnt excplode08:04
mkyb14tobi-wan: ok i installed it and /usr/bin is correct thanks08:04
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Kagura_But boy did it smell bad and make a mess in the battery compartment.08:04
sethkzandaa, you can do it with the ubuntu disk as well08:04
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tobi-wanfredl: ehm, i searched for mysql5 on www.apt-get.org and added the sources08:04
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tobi-wanmkyb14: np08:04
sethkzandaa, do f1 and look through the help, the right commands are there somewhere08:04
tobi-wanfredl: that gets me rid of all dependencies08:04
zandaasethk, ah wait, I can install this GAG bootloader on the floppy disk :O08:04
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zandaasethk, so I won't have to mess up the MBR08:05
mkyb14are there any programs for a image webserver that you can suggest?  i use gallery2.... but didn't know if there were some other options that are better08:05
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iustinhello to everyone ... it is posible to have 2 GUI`s on the same linux?08:05
sophie_sa va08:05
mkyb14and coppermine has some security issues08:05
fredltobi-wan: hmm. I just searched for that mysql. 0 sites, 0 packages matched.08:05
sethkzandaa, OK.  if that doesn't work you can boot from the install media08:05
zandaaiustin, like what?08:05
sophie_puije parler aJo08:06
mkyb14mysqld?08:06
tobi-wanmkyb14: i am quite content with gallery2, it has a lot of nice features08:06
deltroniustin: like 2 screens?08:06
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mkyb14sweet08:06
mkyb14thanks again08:06
zandaaiustin, do you mean like Gnome and KDE on one setup?08:06
tobi-wanfredl: just a sec *searching*08:06
hmpedersenanyone who can tell me how to make mp3 play in xmms by default?08:06
zandaahmpedersen, doesn't it already?08:06
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hmpedersenzandaa, no, it opens in totem08:06
zandaahmpedersen, ah ok08:06
stef65hi, all08:07
mkyb14tobi-wan: one more question what do you use for image processing... imagemagick i take it or netbpm?08:07
iustinyes08:07
iustinlike gnome and kde08:07
hmpedersenzandaa, and xmms is the only player ive found, that supports draggin folders to playlist.. and i have many folders with music08:07
tobi-wanmkyb14: imagemagick, but only 'cause i know it is established :-)08:07
mkyb14k08:07
zandaahmpedersen, xmms is a real nice media player:)08:07
fredltobi-wan: mysql-server-5.008:08
hmpedersenzandaa, yeah.. its more winamp than the linux version of winamp :P08:08
samppabeep media player is better than xmms08:08
zandaaiustin, it is possible, at the login screen you should see the option (session) in which you can choose the GUI to load08:08
samppaand very similar08:08
varsendaggerfor some reason when i go to paly an real audio cd xmms won't paly it or it will play it in little bits and beices08:08
tobi-wanfredl: probably yes :-)08:08
iustinthank you!08:09
fredltobi-wan: yeah I found it and indeed it refers to the dotdeb.org site08:09
zandaahmpedersen, you're kidding me :O08:09
stef65anybody having some info on ubuntu breezy and xorg-support on a via c3/unichrome ? I just get a black screen after trying to install breezy on a mini itx system with a via nehemiah cpu...???08:09
tobi-wanfredl: well, hopefully, it works :-)08:09
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fredltobi-wan: you still running mysql 5? are the new features really worth the hassle? It seems like some major major features....08:10
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varsendaggerthere is a linux verion of winamp?08:11
KuyaedzXMMS08:11
fredlwhoah stef65 I've been looking into buying a mini-itx system...08:11
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northiemy sb live! works at a live cd boot but not in main drive ubuntu. Can I reset my hardware detection or something?08:11
stef65varsendagger: it's called xmms08:11
mkyb14carsendagger: you can use xmms it's similar. or if you want to get trickey use WINE and run winamp08:11
BockBilbovarsendagger, its not a  linux version of winamp08:11
BockBilboits a winamp clone08:11
KuyaedzXMMS works great & is REALLY similar to winamp08:11
fredlxmms rockz08:11
Kuyaedznorthie: still no luck huh?08:12
varsendaggerok why doesn't it play cds.   i installed the cd palyer08:12
varsendaggerahh08:12
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mkyb14carsendagger: the only thing is that you have to get the presets from winamp... just google it and you'll find nthem08:12
zandaasethk, ok I got into Ubuntu again thx to a re-install08:12
BockBilbovarsendagger, i will suggest you beep-media-player08:12
tobi-wanfredl: it makes mysql a *real* db in my eyes, but i've switched to postgres in the meanwhile :-)08:12
northieKuyaedz: the pride in me won't let me reinstall.08:12
stef65fredl: I got one here... so far it's nice, but i'm just a bit confused how to get the xserver working..08:12
tobi-wanfredl: especially views and the like were badly needed stuff08:12
northieKuyaedz: really, it should be fixable. it works from a live cd. that does not make sense.08:12
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Kuyaedznorthie: lol I've been there.  let me look into it.  I'll see what else I can find for you.  Reboots don't affect anything either?08:13
northieKuyaedz: thanks. and no, they don't.08:13
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northieKuyaedz: aplay -l gives: "aplay: device_list:218: no soundcards found..."08:13
northieKuyaedz: and lspci shows the card.08:13
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tobi-wanbtw: i am currently installing (or trying to) anjuta 2.0.1. has anyone tried to do so already?08:13
mkyb14what is anjunta?08:14
tobi-wannorthie: do you have a /dev/dsp08:14
tobi-wanmkyb14: an ide for various programming languages08:14
Dido-Anyboyd knows why you cannot have installed wine, winetools, winesetup at the same time ?? When I select winesetuptk to be installed synapic manager says wine must be removed to continiue..08:14
mkyb14oh08:14
northietobi-wan: nope.08:14
fredltobi-wan: you like postgres better than mysql then?08:14
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tobi-wanfredl: yup, up to now, definitively. but for small projects, mysql is nice08:14
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frejis anyone able to start epiphany (dapper) ?08:15
tobi-wannorthie: hm.... probably your soundcard-module did not get loaded....08:15
tobi-wanright now, i am needing a library called gnome-build, but i cannot locate it... any ideas?08:15
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northietobi-wan: i've switched sound cards a few times in this install, and i know that a fresh install would fix the problem as the live cd gives sound.. but there should be a nicer fix.08:15
emanuelezhello08:15
tobi-wannorthie: yes... compile the kernel again :-)08:16
northietobi-wan: tried modprobing emu10k1 but that didn't do much.08:16
northietobi-wan: that sounds nasty.08:16
tobi-wannorthie: well.... you got to load the module... when it got compiled, fine you just have to modprobe it.... if not: not so fine :-)08:16
emanuelezhow do i remove gij without affecting kubuntu-desktop or openoffice2? i need to use the sun java virtual machine08:16
tobi-wannorthie: which soundcard do you have?08:16
tobi-wanah.... damn, sorry, gotta go08:17
northietobi-wan,  sb live 5.1..08:17
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northieaw.08:17
mkyb14has anyone used the java "looking glass" in ubuntu??  i remember it from a while back and being pretty neat08:17
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advent_linuxemanuelez, dont remove it, do this: sudo update-alternatives --config java08:18
advent_linuxand choose the sun jvm08:18
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eruinis it possible to hide folders in nautilus?08:18
Storkhow can i make my java executables (in /home/alex/java/jdk1.5.0_06/bin) accessible from anywhere?08:18
eruinbah, I'll just make it a dotfolder08:18
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Dido-Anybody knows why wine, winetools and winesetup could not be installed at the same time ?? When I select winesetuptk to be installed synapic manager says wine must be removed to continiue..08:19
emanuelezadvent_linux: wow! thank u! that was painless :)08:19
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BockBilbohello08:19
Storkanyone?08:19
advent_linuxeruin, im sure you can make a file called .hidden, and just put the names of dirs and folders in it08:19
BockBilbocan anyone tell me if ftp uses any port appart from 2108:19
BockBilbo??08:19
StorkBockBilbo, check the wiki08:20
Jaymacit can use any port you set it to, afaik08:20
trappistBockBilbo: passv mode uses random high ports and the ftp command port is 2008:20
samppaHey. What is the easiest way to play video clips that my phone makes? They are ISO Media, MPEG v4 system, 3GPP (H.263/AMR)08:20
advent_linuxStork, why not just install it globally08:20
Jaymacon my proxy ftp uses 808008:20
Storkadvent_linux, how can i do that?08:20
leedI have just installed Ubuntu how do I install GCC08:20
Kuyaedznorthie: have you taken a look at any of these? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/567508:20
Jaymacgo to synaptic08:20
deltron!gcc08:20
ubotuwell, gcc is the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.08:20
Storkleed, "sudo apt-get install gcc"08:20
Kuyaedzleed: try 'build-essential' for all of the compilers08:20
advent_linuxstork, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and go the part about java08:21
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BockBilboStork, trappist see i have a problem configuring my routers NATS cause i cann access to my ftp server localy perfectly, but not from the internet08:21
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] Kem[Hi08:21
zandaasethk, ok I set up the GAG bootloader on my floppy08:21
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adsahi08:21
zandaasethk "Sector boot not found or invalid"08:21
] Kem[Anyone else have an SMC Elite Connect Wifi card?08:22
leedThank you Stork, I will have to look in to this apt-get thing08:22
adsahelp need to know how to make a network where the server could provide the applications on the other pcs08:22
trappistBockBilbo: linux router?08:22
zandaaleed, apt-get is really simple once you've done it a few times08:22
BockBilbotrappist, nope08:22
=== ] Kem[ can't seem to get his wifi working if anyone could help let me know
ardchoillegotta love the ubuntuforums.org :)08:22
trappistBockBilbo: probably not much you can do then.  you can try forwarding port 20 as well, but if it can't do ftp connection tracking you might be stuck.08:23
BockBilbothe connection is working08:23
eruinadvent_linux, yeah, I'm not sure why I even asked ;)08:23
trappistBockBilbo: but an ls hangs?08:23
Superbob] Kem[, have you checked if you need any firmware08:23
BockBilbothe problem is that it gets freezen when retreiving the files08:23
trappistyeah08:23
advent_linuxno worries08:23
Dido-Anybody knows why wine, winetools and winesetup could not be installed at the same time ?? When I select winesetuptk to be installed synapic manager says wine must be removed to continiue..08:23
] Kem[well, the network config thing is slow as hell but it sees my SSID in the list08:24
trappistBockBilbo: your router (or possibly your firewall, if you're using iptables) doesn't know how to track ftp connections08:24
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] Kem[and i turn DHCP option on, click activate and click ok and it wont do crap08:24
BockBilbomaybe the firewall08:24
trappistBockBilbo: the workaround is to type 'passv' as soon as you connect08:24
] Kem[it doesnt work with my SMC card, but my cisco aironet it does that08:24
trappistBockBilbo: if it's the firewall, modprobe ip_conntrack_ftp08:24
tomas_d08:24
Superbob] Kem[, has the network your trying to connect have any security like wpa08:24
] Kem[Nope08:24
] Kem[im using it right now on this computer08:24
BockBilbotrappist, what module is that?08:24
Superbob] Kem[,  open wireless conn?08:24
] Kem[yes08:25
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trappistBockBilbo: the ftp connection tracking module for iptables08:25
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] Kem[i used it before i put ubuntu on the laptop08:25
Dido-Anyone in here have installed wine successfull ?08:25
BockBilboohh08:25
BockBilbosee i have this on the iptabls rules: iptables -A INPUT -p TCP --dport 21 -j ACCEPT08:25
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Superbob] Kem[, have you tried installing wifi-radar08:25
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trappistBockBilbo: do you have a rule like iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT ?08:25
] Kem[im still learning ubuntu, as far as installing stuff goes, im an ex-BSD/Slackware user ;)08:25
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] Kem[im sure i can use.. synaptic is it ?08:26
] Kem[to find it08:26
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Superbob] Kem[, lol slackware user here too "sudo apt-get install wifi-radar"08:26
Superbob] Kem[, i believe08:26
BockBilboiptables -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT08:26
BockBilboive got that one08:26
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trappistBockBilbo: that rule plus the ftp conntrack module should make this work (unless your router is screwing it up) but often that module needs to be loaded at boot (as in added to /etc/modules)08:27
BockBilboyeah08:27
earldude1I've installed Apache, Php5 & mysql on Breezy.  how do I find out where all of these were installed?  Specifically, where does apache get placed?08:27
] Kem[btw whats the root password08:27
BockBilboperhaps the module works08:27
BockBilbo:)08:27
BockBilboso08:27
BockBilboshoud i add that module to /etc/modules08:27
BockBilbo?08:27
BockBilbo*should08:27
trappistyeah08:27
Superbob] Kem[, there is no root unless you enable it08:27
] Kem[oh08:28
adsahelp pls p08:28
] Kem[Superbob, wifi-radar not found08:28
Superbob] Kem[, ok will check packagename08:28
advent_linux] Kem[, or do a sudo -s08:28
BockBilbotrappist, thanks so much08:28
trappistnp08:28
BockBilboit works now08:28
BockBilbo:)08:28
trappistsweet08:28
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Dido-please..08:29
Dido-Anybody knows why wine, winetools and winesetup could not be installed at the same time ?? When I select winesetuptk to be installed synapic manager says wine must be removed to continiue..08:29
Dido-or Anyone in here have installed wine successfull to help me do it?08:30
Superbob] Kem[, if you use "synaptic" you need to enable universe repo to install wifi-radar08:30
] Kem[im still working on that lol, reading the tut also08:30
frejis anyone able to start epiphany-browser (dapper) ?08:30
] Kem[do i need internet on my laptop to do that08:30
Superbob] Kem[, good good08:30
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iustinplz someone could tell me where may i find on the net - gnome themes?08:31
iustinwww.gnome-look.org is closed08:32
Superbob] Kem[, most likely or "man synaptic"08:32
techrushthere is no azureus package with ubuntu ?08:32
techrushor for ubuntu rather08:32
Superbobgood isnt it08:32
techrushcan not find it in the multiverse08:32
techrushor elsewhere08:32
Kuyaedztechrush: there was a package available but now you need to get it from azureus directly08:32
] Kem[well crap, be nice if i could get on the net first of all lol08:32
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techrushso i have to compile it bt hand ?08:33
techrush:(08:33
techrushbt/by08:33
Superbobyou dont need to compile azureus08:33
jendatechrush: try easybreezy - http://www.giannaros.org/buntu/easybreezy0.33-alpha.tar.gz , it'll install Azureus for you08:34
navaroneazureus is just a jar right?08:34
] Kem[jenda what's easybreezy08:34
ToR911whats azureus anyways?08:34
] Kem[azureus is a bittorrent client iirc08:34
jendaubotu, tell ] keml[ about easybreezy08:34
techrushyes08:34
techrusha BT client08:34
ToR911ah08:34
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jendaubotu, tell ] Kem[ about easybreezy08:35
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] Kem[!automatix08:35
ubotuI heard automatix is crap08:35
jendaouch...08:35
] Kem[lol wtf08:35
Seveasit is :)08:35
jendapoor aut'x08:35
jendaBut of course it is08:35
] Kem[tells me its safer than automatix but yet automatix is crap, very vague descriptions eh08:35
varsendaggerwhat is automatix?08:36
] Kem[no idea08:36
varsendaggerwhat does it do08:36
] Kem[it's 'crap'08:36
active-matrixhi all everytime i do a internet connection i use sudo pppoeconf how can i make it so i will not do this every time i reboot08:36
Seveasvarsendagger, a script to f* up your machine08:36
navaroneSeveas is it possible...in a relatively simple way to replace nautilus with gnome commander...and not break anything...<s>08:36
varsendaggerreally ?08:36
Seveasnavarone, -ENOCLUE08:36
Superboblol what the hell is that noobpackage08:36
jenda] Kem[: It's a script that installs basic saftware: easybreezy.robotgeek.org (Seveas says it's not stable yet08:36
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Seveasjenda, that's easybreezy - a slightly better alternative08:37
mrkoje] Kem[,  I recomment easybreezy also08:37
Dido-PLease, anyone help me out to make wine installation and  run it08:37
SeveasI recommend a manual :)08:37
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jenda!easybreezy08:37
mrkoje] Kem[,  You might try the easyUbuntu version first though because easybreezy is new and is in alpha08:37
Seveasmrkoje, easyubuntu and easybreezy are pretty much the same08:37
frejis anyone able to start epiphany-browser (dapper) ? Tried rebuilding, didn't help08:38
jendamrkoje: It's stable - easyubuntu is old and the new easyubuntu isn't out yet08:38
mrkojeSeveas,  Yes I know except easybreezy does not work and easyubuntu does08:38
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Superbobi thought they merged08:39
jendamrkoje: If you found a bug - please tell me or file it in #easyubuntu08:39
jendaSuperbob: +108:39
Superbobding dong08:39
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mrkojejenda,  Easybreezy screwed my sources up.. did not replace then when it was done. It also did not add support for basic things such as wmv... though I did tell it too08:40
KBlacKBoXhi all08:40
anatolere08:40
active-matrixhello08:40
Seveasmrkoje, that's exactly the problem with such scripts08:40
jendaSuperbob: They did. EASYUBUNTU (the merged) hasn't yet had a release. EASYBREEZY is now stable and working on x86.08:40
KBlacKBoXI just need a litle help08:40
mrkojejenda,  let me go through what happened and I will post it in #easyubuntu08:40
Seveasthat's why I always recommend a manual instead :)08:40
jendamrkoje: not version 0.33, right?08:40
mrkojejenda, wait one08:40
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anatolecan someone tell me, is the installer's hardware support relevant to the kernel's one which will be installed?08:40
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Seveasanatole, the installed system supports a few more things than the installer08:41
KBlacKBoXhow can I configue a sortcut on my keyboard on my mouse ?08:41
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anatolethanks Seveas08:41
KBlacKBoXme english is ditry*08:41
KBlacKBoXmy*08:41
KBlacKBoXlol08:41
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KBlacKBoXshortcut**08:42
mrkojejenda,  easybreezy0.33-alpha  that one did not work for me so I ran the EasyUbuntu 2.4beta4 which worked super08:42
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SuperbobKBlacKBoX, go to system > preferences> kb shortcuts08:42
adsahelp need to know how to make a network where the server could provide the applications on the other pcs08:42
KBlacKBoXSuperbob I have try but ..08:42
Superbob?08:42
mrkojeadsa,  be more speciic08:42
mrkoje*specific08:43
KBlacKBoXas U can see U can't put a shortcut on a prog08:43
mrkoje!ltsp08:43
ubotumethinks ltsp is when you get an error where you log in, then get logged out right away, run sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys on the server in a terminal, then reboot a client and try logging in. Make sure the user trying to log in exists on the server.08:43
mrkojelol08:43
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Madeyehi, how to create .deb package from .bz2 source ?08:43
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mrkojejenda,  sure08:43
SeveasMadeye, apt-get install maint-guide and read it08:43
SuperbobKBlacKBoX, well that would be program independent08:44
KBlacKBoXSuperbob I want to ad short cut on 3ddesktop08:44
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SuperbobKBlacKBoX, ah ok08:44
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active-matrixhi all everytime i do a internet connection i use sudo pppoeconf how can i make it so i will not do this every time i reboot08:45
KBlacKBoXlike midle click of the mouse08:45
KBlacKBoXor in a kb08:45
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SuperbobKBlacKBoX, try dragging it there or right click add launcher08:45
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devilzhi where can i find sources.list08:46
devilzi mean what should i add08:46
ToR911kinda suprising the make package is not a default install08:46
jendaactive-matrix: System>Preferences> sessions >startup08:46
MadeyeSeveas, i apted it, but where is the guide now?08:46
Seveas!tell devilz about sources08:46
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devilzty08:47
SeveasMadeye, /usr/share/doc/maint-guide/08:47
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devilzSeveas, can you suggest me what is good to do when you install ubuntu08:47
Superbobmake a coffee08:47
Seveasthat is a good thing indeed08:48
jendalol. And enjoy. I can definitely recommend a script that'll do most of what you need for you :)08:48
KBlacKBoXSuperbob I do not understand and I have create a sortcut on up bar*08:48
Seveasjenda, ....08:48
jendahehe08:48
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zandaahow do I make my own GDM?08:48
Superboblol08:48
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Seveaszandaa, buy a C book, read it, buy an X reference, read it, start programming08:49
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Cur0skHi ppl08:49
linx_hello i was trin to install vmware and installed in incorrectly is there a command i can use to remove the current installation08:49
SuperbobKBlacKBoX, i thought thats what you wanted08:49
zandaaSeveas, there's no easy way??? (just modifying the original Ubuntu GDM??)08:49
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Cur0skanyone knows if it's possible install Ubuntu on a external hard disk (usb load)?08:49
KBlacKBoXmmmm racourcis clavier ?08:49
KBlacKBoX...08:49
Seveaszandaa, gdm is quite a complex piece of software...08:49
SuperbobSeveas, i though GDM was XML08:49
SeveasCur0sk, that's not yet supported08:49
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SeveasSuperbob, no, it's pure C08:50
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Cur0skSeveas, and any other Distro may be able?08:50
odinhow do I change the permissions of /dev/hdb so that it sticks through reboots?08:50
Seveashow could a login manager ever be written in xml?08:50
SeveasCur0sk, no idea08:50
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zandaaSeveas, i was talking about a GDM theme08:50
Dido-Anybody knows why wine, winetools and winesetup could not be installed at the same time ?? When I select winesetuptk to be installed synapic manager says wine must be removed to continiue..08:50
Dido-Anybody knows why wine, winetools and winesetup could not be installed at the same time ?? When I select winesetuptk to be installed synapic manager says wine must be removed to continiue..08:50
SuperbobSeveas, i mean customsing the graphical side of it08:50
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linx_hello i was trin to install vmware and installed in incorrectly is there a command i can use to remove the current installation08:50
SeveasDido-, winesetuptk is deprecated and should not be used08:51
active-matrixok how do i add that pppoecon thing in startup08:51
] Kem[ok cool i got my mp3s working08:51
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KBlacKBoXI want to have the 3ddesktop when I click on midle button of tha mouse or in alt+ctrl+somtin'...08:51
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SeveasSuperbob, get a theme from gnome-look.org, look at its source and start modding08:51
] Kem[now another thing, what's the best recommended audio cd writing util ?08:51
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zandaaSeveas, gnome-look.org isn't working <_<08:51
SuperbobSeveas, been there done that thats why i thought the theme part of it was xml :)08:51
SeveasKBlacKBoX, gconf-editor, look at /apps/metacity and find the custom shortcuts section08:51
SeveasSuperbob, may very well be, I have no clue about it08:52
Dido-Seveas but now when i run wine it says that i dont have installed i completely...08:52
Dido-it*08:52
KBlacKBoXSeveas merci ... I try...08:52
zandaaSuperbob, could you help me then?08:52
] Kem[Superbob any idea what a good cd burning program would be, to burn audio cds08:52
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Superbobzandaa, try looking at some other gdm themes its pretty similar to html08:53
devilzW: GPG error: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 49A120FD1135D46608:53
Superbob] Kem[, gnomebaker08:53
Seveasdevilz, look at the homepage of the thing08:53
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nickrudDido-, I think you're looking for winecfg, it's installed with wine08:53
zandaaSuperbob, where would I find those in the system?08:53
devilzi am08:53
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Seveasthen look really good08:53
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Superbobzandaa, no idea maybe in /usr08:54
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zandaasuperbob, you said "been there done that"08:55
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zandaaso you should know where to find em right?08:55
] Kem[now if i have an ipod.. do i need some special linux itunes software08:55
Seveas] Kem[, gtkpod, banshee08:55
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zandaa] Kem[, gtkpod08:55
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Superbobyeah i downloaded one off gnome-look, then hacked it then used gnome-theme-manager to install it08:55
] Kem[sweet thanks.. gunna put Ubuntu on my girlfriends laptop and she has one ;)08:55
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zandaa] Kem[, nice:) iPods kick ass you know?08:56
adsaubuntu has a nice community08:56
zandaaadsa, yes indeed08:56
] Kem[roger that08:56
Seveaszandaa, they do other ass things too (ibuzz.co.uk)08:56
jendaUbuntu community? best there is...08:56
zandaaSeveas <_<08:56
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Superbobass things?08:57
] Kem[Seveas hahahahaha08:57
KBlacKBoXno it's not that*08:57
techrushi wish gnome look wasnt down08:57
] Kem[lmao @ the video08:57
techrushof course as soon as i try a gnome distro08:57
Seveasart.gnome.org08:57
techrushgnomelook.org goes down08:57
adsaubuntu rules08:57
adsabut i need help08:57
KBlacKBoXso I think ... synaptik help me08:57
adsaLOL08:57
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adsalater you ppl help me08:57
] Kem[wow that's hilarious08:57
adsadinner now08:57
adsabyebye08:57
Superbobwhat a nice broadcast08:58
KBlacKBoXthanx all **08:58
] Kem[anyone have verizon DSL08:59
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dodeskaden?08:59
Superbobzandaa, found it in /usr/share/gdm/themes09:00
Superbobbit late but hey09:00
Seveas09:00
devilzSeveas, is there any your sources.list ?09:00
Seveasdevilz, paste.ubuntu-nl.org/232509:00
devilzi see09:01
devilzty09:01
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devilzbtw can you just tell me what is hoary and breezy09:01
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didierhello09:01
Seveashoary = ubuntu 5.04; breezy = ubuntu 5.1009:01
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Superbobhedgehogs and badgers09:01
] Kem[haha09:01
Seveas!badger09:01
theoDit is eebn proef. Theo Geef een aantwoord09:01
ubotubadger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger mushroom! mushroom! http://www.badgerx3.com09:01
zandaasuperbob, ok, thanks, switching systems now09:01
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devilzi have 5.1009:02
devilzso i dont use hoary09:02
devilz;)09:02
didierIs there any gnucash user here ?09:02
Seveascorrect09:02
Seveas!snake09:02
ubotuSchnaaakkeeeeeee, schnaaaaaaaakkeeee, oh no it's a schnaaaaaaaaaakkeeeeee09:02
devilzty09:02
devilzbrb09:02
Superbobubotu, youve been had by that dumb website09:02
ubotuI don't know, Superbob09:02
jendalol09:02
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varsendaggeri use moneydance it is worth it09:03
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IzzyCCjimh_refurb@comcast.net says:09:04
IzzyCCi am not able to run the report right now09:04
IzzyCCerm09:04
IzzyCCwrong window09:04
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didiervarsendagger: Is it free ?09:04
chrisx1hey i got a problem ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host any ideas?09:04
jojoman02my ubuntu (latest) keeps freezing when i transfer files (from usb HD (ext) --> ata HD (internal) )09:04
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jojoman02at the same spot on the file too.....09:04
jojoman02any ideas?09:04
varsendaggerhey where is the link for for getting more than one application to work09:05
varsendaggerdidier no but it's only 25 bucks or something09:05
ToR911i did: <Jason> tor911, install the required GCC version, and export GCC=/path/to/3.4gcc and it will function perfectly fine.09:05
ToR911but when i press gcc , it still doesn't find it09:05
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Superbobjojoman02, can you transfer other files09:05
varsendaggerfor sound09:05
chrisx1hey i got a problem ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host any ideas?09:05
SeveasToR911, try: export CC=gcc-3.409:05
jojoman02superbob: yes09:06
varsendaggermore than one aplication for sound to work09:06
ToR911do i need to also put it in the path or something?09:06
jenda!source-o-matic09:06
ubotujenda: Are you on ritalin?09:06
Superbobjojoman02, maybe its a corrupt file on your usb disk09:06
jendahehe09:06
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Seveas!easysource09:06
ubotu[easysource]  For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic09:06
chrisx1hey i got a problem ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host any ideas?09:06
jojoman02superbob: windows can read it just fine... (same file)09:07
didiervarsendagger: Can you make provision and Remember for payement.09:07
jojoman02it is from ntfs usb external, maybe that can be it?09:07
ToR911ahh09:07
ToR911where are the C header files installed for the 3.4 ?09:08
varsendaggeri thinkso09:08
varsendaggerdidier,09:08
Superbobjojoman02, maybe but if the filesystems already loaded into the kernel it shouldnt be a problem09:08
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chrisx1hey i got a problem ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host any ideas?09:08
chrisx1:@09:08
bob832anyone know how well ubuntu would run on an 800MHz machine?09:09
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Superbobjojoman02, try turning dma off "sudo hdparm -d 0"09:09
varsendaggerbob832, should run fine09:09
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chrisx1bob832: im on 600mhz09:10
ToR911where are the C header file that match my running kernel stored at?09:10
chrisx1i also run it on a 200mhz;)09:10
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chrisx1any1 help please!09:10
mkyb14is there an ftp folder that i can upload my albums into in gallery2??  instead of doing it over the web?09:10
] Kem[im gunna install it on my 200MHz laptop09:10
] Kem[hope it runs ok with 32mb ram lol09:10
Superbobchrisx1, have you man paged ssh?09:10
chrisx1no09:10
bob832alright, thanks, for some reason, i am thinking that it wouldn't run well on something less than a 1Ghz09:10
Superbob"man ssh"09:10
bob832*was thinking09:11
] Kem['linux' runs on slow computers really well, just have a decent amount of ram and you'll be fine09:11
_jasonchrisx1, do you ever manage to actually login?09:11
bob832good to know09:11
bob832thanks09:11
chrisx1no09:11
ToR911where are the C header file that match my running kernel stored at?09:11
chrisx1i just get that all the time09:11
pdani_pdani@narny:~$ sudo modprobe nvidia09:11
pdani_FATAL: Error inserting nvidia (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile/nvidia.ko): No such device09:11
triple5hey, I just got a projector and connected it to the laptop, wonder If I have to restart the machine or if I can just activate it as  a second screen..09:11
triple5any ideas?09:11
pdani_but i HAVE nvidia card09:12
_jasonchrisx1, make sure port 22 is set to accept connections09:12
pdani_tnt209:12
Paradossohi everybody, does someone know where can I find an audacious (media player) .deb package? Thanks09:12
chrisx1it is:S09:12
pdani_linux-modules-restricted* installed09:12
pdani_any idea?09:12
selinium_Whats the command to reconfigure X?09:13
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_jasonchrisx1, are you just trying to do normal password identification or are you using ssh keys?09:13
triple5okay I will restart...09:13
chrisx1not sure09:14
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chrisx1was default installation09:14
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_jasonchrisx1, look through /etc/ssh/sshd_config, I'm not sure if default is set to allow password identification or not09:14
] Kem[is anyone else here using Verizon DSL or a Westel USB wifi adapter?09:14
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ToR911where are the C header file that match my running kernel stored at?09:15
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RosetteHi, I'm having trouble installing Firefox 1.5 on Ubuntu 5.10 :x09:16
_frankToR911: do you have the appropriate linux-headers- package installed?09:16
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SuperbobToR911, have you installed kernel-dev packages installed?09:16
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jgrievesRosette FF 1.5 is not officially supported on 5.1009:17
chrisx1how do u restart openssh-server ?09:17
ToR911doubt it09:17
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jgrieves!firefox09:17
ubotuI don't know, jgrieves09:17
jgrieves!Firefox09:17
ubotujgrieves: I don't know, could you explain it?09:17
jgrieves...09:17
crimsunchrisx1: sudo invoke-rc.d ssh restart09:17
chrisx1ty09:17
Kuyaedzchrisx1: try sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart09:17
chrisx1ty09:18
iHeartKemlawl09:18
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_frankToR911: what are you trying to do?09:18
pdani_any idea???09:18
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ToR911isntal vmware-tools09:19
ToR911install even09:19
jojoman02i looked everywhere for this -- how do i rename a drive (usb stick) -- ( like in windows => 'right click' drive --> properties --> change name )09:19
SuperbobToR911, yeah you need kernel-development files, if your trying to build vm modules09:19
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_frankToR911: you need linux-headers-  for your kernel and gcc-3.4  installed09:19
ToR911yeh already got 3.409:20
ToR911ahh isntalled headers09:20
ToR911working now09:20
_frankare you installing vmware tools in a guest linux?09:21
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ToR911guest linux?09:21
iHeartKemhe means linux inside of the VM09:21
ToR911yes09:22
jenda!firefox09:22
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, jenda09:22
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_frankToR911: I think that's all you need.  do   export CC=gcc-3.4  before running the installation script09:22
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ToR911nah09:23
jendaubotu, firefox is a Free Software web browser that supports extensions and is gaining popularity by the hour. Developped by the Mozilla Foundation.09:23
ubotujenda: okay09:23
ToR911i needed the kernel header files09:23
ToR911but i compiled, it worked, thanks :)09:23
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Chousukedevelopped is a typo :/09:23
Chousukeit has one p only09:23
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bolrodDEVELOPPPPPERS DEVELOPPPPERS DEVELOPPERS .... hehe :)09:24
bolrodor something09:24
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trappistI fixed the misspelling09:24
bolrodhrm... looks like the support channel :x09:24
bolrod:)09:24
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soldieruk400hi all what sound wave do i use to get that little drum sound back when i open windows or the net ?09:24
_jasondvelopp n. A ballet movement in which one leg is raised to the knee of the supporting leg and fully extended.09:25
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zandaaSuperbob, I modified the theme, now how do I install it?09:26
_jasonsoldieruk400, gtk-events/activate.wav maybe09:26
soldieruk400how di i find that file  jason ?09:27
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ViViDwhat was the release date of breezy?09:29
Kuyaedz10.13.0509:29
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jendaubotu, thunderbird is a FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation09:29
ubotuokay, jenda09:29
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b166!sources09:29
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic09:29
ViViDso the next version comes out some time in april?09:29
Kuyaedzcorrect09:29
ViViDcool, thanks09:29
linx_where can i find my c headers?09:29
josue_mhello,  apt-get install php4 says couldn't find the package, any idea to fix that ?  the same happens with php5, I just installed ubunto 5.109:29
contradictorybenrun apt-get update09:30
josue_malready did that09:30
contradictorybenyou may need to enable additional repositories09:30
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Kuyaedzjosue_m: run apt-get update &/or check your sources.list.  See the links above for sources.list entries09:30
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josue_mok,  I'll check he links, thanks09:31
jenda!easybreezy09:31
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linx_where can i find my c headers?09:33
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trappistlinx_: mostly in /usr/include09:33
stremicwhats are c headers09:33
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jendaubotu no, easybreezy is a script that automates the installation of many problematic packages such as codecs and the NVidia driver. It is now merged with EasyUbuntu, under that name. See also !easyubuntu, #easyubuntu and https://launchpad.net/products/easyubuntu.09:35
ubotujenda: okay09:35
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stremicwho can tell me how i install kde09:36
jenda!easyubuntu09:36
ubotujenda: Did you get hit by a windmill?09:36
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trappiststremic: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop09:36
stremicthanks trappist09:37
chrisx1How Do I Add A Welcome Message to openssh-server ?09:38
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trappistchrisx1: /etc/motd09:38
chrisx1is that a file?09:39
trappistyes09:39
chrisx1ok09:39
chrisx1ty09:39
jendaubotu, easyubuntu is a very useful script for automation of several installation tasks. It can install many proprietary packages that are otherwise troublesome to obtain, including w32codecs, libdvdcss2 and skype. It is GPL'd and safe. Ask in #easyubuntu, or check out Easybreezy is a script that automates the installation of many problematic packages such as codecs and the NVidia driver. It is now merged with EasyUbuntu, under that name. See a09:39
jendalso !easyubuntu, #easyubuntu and https://launchpad.net/products/easyubuntu09:39
ubotujenda: okay09:39
jendaoops09:39
trappistchrisx1: and make sure PrintMotd is yes in /etc/ssh/sshd_config09:40
trappistjenda: you can do this stuff in /msg09:40
chrisx1ok09:40
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jendatrappist: OK sorry09:40
linx_is it necessary to upgrade 68609:40
jendalinx_: no09:40
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chrisx1How do i add a user09:41
linx_wise?09:41
chrisx1with limited use09:41
chrisx1in ssh09:41
jendalinx_: But if you have a dualcore proc or heaps of ram - it's good to do so09:41
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linx_naw jus p4 and 51209:41
GrimlordIm new here. Is it okay to ask questions about video support with Unbuntu here?09:41
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mrkojeGrimlord,  of course09:41
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Weasel--Yes, this is the general ubuntu help channel09:41
Grimlordgreat, thank you09:42
b166!nvidia09:42
hmpedersenAnyone know where to find amuleweb?09:42
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736809:42
mrkojeGrimlord,  whats your question09:42
ToR911why is my g++ funky?09:42
jendalinx_: I have almost the same and I did upgarde to 686 - I see no difference and it was not simple09:42
mrkoje!beer time09:42
linx_i did it with synaptec last time and it did its thing09:42
ubotumrkoje: Are you on ritalin?09:42
ToR911i tried using a makefile that uses g++ that worked at my university, and it doesn't work on my freshly installed ubuntu09:42
jendalol09:42
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mrkojelol09:42
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Ben`hi ;)09:42
trappistToR911: sudo apt-get install build-essential09:42
ToR911i have g++ installed09:43
ToR911it just gives off alot of errors09:43
trappistToR911: what kind of errors09:43
trappistToR911: (hint: pastebin)09:43
GrimlordI have a 8600 inspiron with an ATI Mobility 9600. I downloaded the drivers from ATI and installed everything, but my fgl_glsxgears crashes and regluar glxgears runs so slow it wont register..nay thoughts?09:43
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jendatrappist: I don't think I can teach ubotu through msg09:43
trappistjenda: in msg just say x is y09:44
linx_i can't find the kernel c headers >.<09:44
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ToR911how do u copy off vmware? :)09:44
ToR911linx, install them09:44
trappistlinx_: sudo apt-get install linux-headers09:44
chrisx1How Do i Create a limited user from ssh09:44
jendatrappist: OK got it.09:44
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linx_trappist: where will it be then09:44
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trappistlinx_: /usr/src/linux-headers-{version}09:45
deltronubotu is a blootbot, right?09:45
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, deltron09:45
mrkoje!snack09:45
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, mrkoje09:45
linx_trappist:thx09:45
deltronlol09:45
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deltronubotu: blootbot?09:45
ubotudeltron: Are you smoking crack?09:45
deltronubotu: infobot?09:45
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, deltron09:45
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deltronlol09:45
deltronI used to run an infobot09:46
deltronyears ago09:46
deltronthen it got nice and insecure :P09:46
Oblivion^i want to set up my soundcard but i don't know which one i have, and it doesn't autodetect. it's some vague on board sound thing, how can i install it?09:46
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deltronit was funny, I named her cindy19f, and would drop her in channels :)09:46
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mrkojeOblivion: Check out http://www.alsa-project.org09:46
|3lack|cehey all09:47
trappistsure wish ubuntu shipped with alsaconf09:47
Oblivion^mrkoje: thx09:47
Chousukeit doesn't?09:47
trappistno09:47
mrkojeOblivion^,  Its also best to know what chipset your onboard sound is... you can get the info from the motherboard manufactor09:47
deltronweird09:47
trappistOblivion^: or from lspci09:47
deltronalsaconf in the universe repos?09:47
Oblivion^trappist: what is lspci?09:48
mrkojeya or that...09:48
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mrkojeOblivion^,  type  lspci in the terminal... look for the sound card09:48
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|3lack|cejust finished installing 5.10. can't get synaptic or any other updater/file manager to come up, even apt.  help please?09:48
Storkhow do i unzip a .zip archive from the command line?09:48
cmathesonStork: unzip09:48
deltronunzip zipfile.zip09:48
mrkojeOblivion^,  you will get somthing like this:  0000:00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: ESS Technology ES1983S Maestro-3i PCI Audio Accelerator09:48
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Storkoh09:48
jenda|3lack|ce: what happens when you try?09:48
Storkthanks09:48
deltron:)09:48
Oblivion^trappist: i don't seem to find any soundcards09:49
|3lack|cejenda: I get nothing - no response, no hdd action, nothing.  Tried apt-get from terminal - without sudo it gives 'unknown application'. with sudo it gives nothing as well.09:49
mrkojeOblivion^,  Then check with your motherboard manufactorer... they will have all the details about your nifty onboard sound09:49
Oblivion^mrkoje: ok09:49
jenda|3lack|ce: fresh install?09:49
|3lack|cejenda: yes.09:50
jendahmm09:50
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mrkojeOblivion^,  what motherboard do you have/09:50
|3lack|ceyah, tricky one - worse because I'm linux illiterate.   it didnt' much like my cd roms tho.09:50
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Oblivion^mrkoje to be honest i'm not sure09:50
|3lack|cemight try reinstalling later if we can't find a fix09:50
jenda|3lack|ce: that's weird09:50
mrkojeOblivion^,  Well ok... now we know it isn't a built pc... what computer brand is it?09:50
jenda|3lack|ce: Normal or expert install? What HDD size?09:51
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active-matrixmp4 what mediaplayer do i need to watch mp4 movie files09:51
Oblivion^mrkoje: ibm09:51
ToR911whats a good c++ editor?09:51
|3lack|cejenda: normal install, 41.1 Gig hdd.09:51
cmathesonactive-matrix: i like mplayer09:51
cmathesonToR911: vim09:51
paulproteus|lapt|3lack|ce: Can you paste a conversation between you and apt-get?09:51
paulproteus|laptPut it in a pastebin, and give us the URL.09:51
jenda|3lack|ce: How big was your / partition?09:51
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paulproteus|laptI want to see what you typed on the terminal, and how it responded.09:51
mrkojeOblivion^,  My best advice is to go to their website and look for your computer model. See if you can get any specs on that computer. When you do... look for the onboard sound information. They have to have the information.09:51
|3lack|cedunno how paulproteus, but could if ya walked me through it.09:51
Oblivion^mrkoje: thx09:51
paulproteus|lapt|3lack|ce: Sure, okay.  try "sudo apt-get update"09:52
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|3lack|cejenda - root partition is as big as partition manager wanted it - all files on one file system -09:52
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jendaOK09:52
ElitePetei need some help with firefox and playing videos?09:52
|3lack|cepaulproteus - could we do this in #flood instead? it'd be easier.09:52
paulproteus|lapt|3lack|ce: yes.09:52
|3lack|cek. sec. jenda you get that? going to #flood09:52
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jenda|3lack|ce: got it09:53
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Andre4sI have by mistake fuckedup my /etc/hosts file. Now I can't login as root. Anything to do other then reinstall?09:53
mrkojeElitePete,  whats your problem?09:53
stremicwho can tell me how i install kde09:53
ElitePetei cant seem to play videos using firefox, mplayer comes up downloads the video but then nothing plays?09:53
active-matrixhow do i start bittorent09:53
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cmathesonAndre4s: why would your /etc/hosts file stop you from being able to log in as root09:53
mrkoje!Tell09:54
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cmathesonactive-matrix: btdownloadcurses foo.torrent09:54
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iveqyhi, I've got a dvd player, but I have no /dev/dvd, how to add it manually?09:54
Andre4scmatheson, don't ask me09:54
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DjLinXThe path "/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386" is an existing directory, but itdoes not contain a "linux" subdirectory as expected.09:54
DjLinX while trin to config vmwares anyone know how to fix?09:54
mrkojetell ElitePete about RestrictedFormats09:54
Andre4subuntu shit09:54
cmathesonAndre4s: i don't think that's your problem09:54
ElitePetemrjoke i have all the codecs insalled.09:54
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cmathesonAndre4s: but just boot off the live-cd or something to fix it09:54
|3lack|cegrrr. wont' let me post to #flood :(09:55
active-matrixwhere can i download movies09:55
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jendaiveqy: you need to create a symlink09:55
mrkojeElitePete,  do you have the MediaConnectivityPlugin?09:55
active-matrixis it on bittorent09:55
mrkojefor firefox?09:55
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foampeacehi09:55
ElitePetemrkoje, i don't know is it in apt-get ?09:55
iveqyjenda: yes but to what?09:55
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mrkojeuh no... I don't think so... try the mozilla webpage09:55
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mrkojeits a FireFox plugin... you should be able to search for it on the website'09:55
jendaiveqy: probably /dev/cdrom or cdrom0, 1 etc.09:56
foampeaceim having trouble getting my sound to work for the game play in jagged alliance 209:56
active-matrixwhere can i download movies09:56
foampeaceanyone had this problem?09:56
redondosAre vanilla sources always unavailable from the official repos?09:56
jenda|3lack|ce: join #|3lack|ce09:56
DjLinXThe path "/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386" is an existing directory, but itdoes not contain a "linux" subdirectory as expected.  while trin to config vmwares anyone know how to fix?09:56
MailmanCan anyone help me get cool'n'quiet working please (it works under windows btw)?09:56
jendapaulproteus: join #|3lack|ce please09:56
active-matrixwhere can i download movies09:56
iveqyjenda: I only have /dev/cdrom and /dev/cdrw and both points to my cdrw09:57
Grimlordmrkoje: Any advice on laptop ATI driver setup? The system operates but my OGL is hosed09:57
redondosDjLinX: cd /usr/src ; rm linux ; ln -s linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386 linux09:57
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jendaiveqy: then point it to cdrw - if that's the dvd player09:57
cmathesoniveqy: it's going to be /dev/hdc or /dev/hdd probably09:57
jendaiveqy: ah - cmatheson is right09:57
ToR911whats a good graphical c++ editor (debugger will be nice) for linux?09:57
vnikihi all09:57
ElitePetek mrkjoje it's installed09:57
DjLinXlinx@ubuntu:/usr/src$ sudo cd /usr/src ; rm linux ; ln -s linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386 linux09:58
DjLinXsudo: cd: command not found09:58
DjLinXrm: cannot remove `linux': No such file or directory09:58
DjLinXln: creating symbolic link `linux' to `linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386': Permission denied09:58
redondosToR911: kdevelop?09:58
iveqyToR911: gvim?09:58
iveqyjenda: :)09:58
iveqycmatheson: thx09:58
ToR911ur guys are Asking me or telling me?09:58
redondosDjLinX: put sudo before every command09:58
redondosDjLinX: or just `sudo -s`, issue all commands, then `exit`09:58
redondosToR911: I'm asking if you've tried it.09:59
ElitePetemrkoje, do you know how i get it to automatically repeat?09:59
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jendaredondos: cd does'nt need sudo09:59
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DjLinXredondos now it says no such dir09:59
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redondosjenda: for the sake of simplicity.09:59
cmathesonDJ_Mirage: type 'pwd'09:59
stremici tried out the comand sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop for installing kde but i got an error message09:59
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jendaredondos: k10:00
aleaheystremic: what was the error?10:00
KimppaHello. I'm having trouble mounting a dvd manually. # mount /media/cdrom0/ -o unhide -->  mount: special device /dev/hdc does not exist10:00
ToR911redonos: just looking for a c++ editor, with  compiler&debugger ability for linux10:00
Kimppaany ideas?10:00
ToR911looking for advice10:00
cmathesonstremic: maybe you should try 'apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' instead10:00
spencerkis there a terminal command for 'show desktop'?10:00
derek[] If you're using xchat 2.4.1 or higher and have white bg with black text theme, please may I have your colors.conf from ~/.xchat2 ?10:00
aleaheyhah trueeee cmatheson10:00
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mykehello everyone10:00
cmathesonspencerk: that would depend on your window-manager... chances are unless you're using wmii or something there isn't10:00
iveqycmatheson: I seem to have more problems. The cdrw is on /dev/hdd, so the dvd should be on /dev/hdc but I have no dev/hdc10:00
stremicit does not known the kubuntu-desktop-command i think10:01
redondosToR911: You're looking for an IDE. Try Anjuta.10:01
spencerkcmatheson, shoot, im just using x10:01
cmathesoniveqy: hmm, is it on your primary or secondary ide cable? and is it the master or slave?10:01
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cmathesonspencerk: you can't just be using x... (well you could be... but i promise you're not)10:01
active-matrixhow do i install bittorent10:01
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spencerkcmatheson, gnome10:02
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cmathesonspencerk: yeah afaik there is no way to do that10:02
vr^238can anyone recommend anything more versatile than gnome-terminal for running irssi? i don't like how i can't use alt+left/right in gnome-terminal10:02
cmathesonvr^238: i really like aterm10:02
redondosactive-matrix: there are many bittorrent clients out there. find one that you like, then install it using your favorite package manager. (synaptic, for example)10:02
aleaheyactive-matrix: sudo apt-cache search torrent10:02
ElitePetemrkoje10:02
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Kyralvr^238: Xterm10:02
aleaheypick a client10:02
ToR911redon, excuse my linux newbiety but "IDE" ?10:02
ElitePetehow do i install firefox 1.07, i have 1.5 but it doesn't work properly10:02
redondosactive-matrix: some examples are ktorrent, azureus, bitcomet10:02
fredlI have an Intel HDA soundcard and would like it to use 5 speakers, anybody know how to do that in Ubuntu?10:02
vr^238cmatheson: thanks, i'll try.10:02
cmathesonElektrochelovek: apt-get install mozilla-firefox10:02
vr^238Kyral: how do you edit the colors in xterm ?10:02
redondosToR911: IDE: Integrated Development Environment10:02
active-matrixwhere are they on synapcit package manager10:02
Kyralvr^238: like?10:02
spencerkcmatheson, is there a way to change the icons for the 'add to panel' items?10:02
vr^238Kyral: or any other prefs for that matter10:02
aleaheyactive-matrix: search for em10:03
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aleaheyjust search titles and descriptions for "torrent"10:03
iveqycmatheson: it's on my secondary cable, and it's master. The fully working cdrw is at the same cable and is slave10:03
redondosvr^238: google for "xresources+xterm+color"10:03
vr^238Kyral: the color scheme of the terminal, ya know?10:03
spencerkfor some reason the 'show desktop' one doesnt have an icon10:03
cmathesonvr^238: you can do it from the command-line -fg gray -bg black or edit your .Xresources10:03
Kyralvr^238: Terminal Prefs?10:03
zandaadoes anyone know how to redirect like /dev/sequencer to /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p???10:03
cmathesoniveqy: hmm, so it *should* be /dev/hdc ... you don't have  that device though?10:03
vr^238Kyral: yes, nevermind though, cmatheson answered. thanks10:03
active-matrixi am on synapcit packetmanager where are those files10:03
ToR911km ty10:03
ToR911k, ty10:03
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aleaheyzandaa: use ln i think, do man ln10:04
ElitePetehow do i configure mplayer for firefox?10:04
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cmathesonzandaa: yeah... probably ln -sf is what you're looking for10:04
iveqycmatheson: no I do't.  is it possible that I miss some drivers for the kernel?10:04
HymnToLifezandaa > ln -s /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p /dev/sequencer10:04
_jasonElitePete, once you have mplayer, install mplayerplug-in10:04
cmathesonElitePete: you'll need the mplayerplug-in (find it at sourceforge)10:04
_jasoncmatheson, ElitePete mplayerplug-in is in the repos10:04
ElitePetei have mplayer plug installed for firefox, i just need to know how to set options etc?10:04
cmatheson_jason: yeah... but that version really sucks10:05
zandaahymntolife, thanks10:05
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Grimlordne1 run on a dell laptop with ATI video?10:05
zandaaHymnToLife, now I got sound on SuperTux:P10:05
dragoonGrimlord: www.ati.com10:05
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cmathesoniveqy: try 'dmesg | grep hd' and see if your dvd-drive is listed10:05
HymnToLifezandaa > you're welcome :)10:05
dragoonGrimlord: download the drivers and install them10:05
Oblivion^if i pop in a pci sound card that is relatively new, should it be automatically detected?10:06
GrimlordI have...10:06
aleaheyGrimlord: are you stuck on 640x480?10:06
fredlwhat does it mean if mplayers says: alsa-space: xrun of at least 0.006 msecs. resetting stream10:06
iveqycmatheson: it isn't....10:06
Kuyaedzoblivion: it should, yes.  I recently added a Sb Live 5.1 card (old) and it was detected10:06
_jasonfredl, do you use gnome with esd?10:06
GrimlordNo, all basic functions are fine, but my OpenGL is hosed10:06
Oblivion^Kuyaedz: k10:06
fredljason - yeah10:06
cmathesoniveqy: hmm, that's really weird.  did it work w/ other distros/windoze/etc? does it show up in the bios listing of devices when your computer starts?10:06
_jasonubotu, tell fredl about mplayer10:06
_jasonfredl, you need to tell mplayer to use esd10:07
ElitePetecan anyone tell me how to configure mplay plugin for firefox?10:07
_jasonElitePete, what do you want to configure?10:07
fredlok thanks10:07
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ElitePetei want to configure if the video repeats or not10:07
iveqycmatheson: it worked before when I did the real installation of ubuntu, now I've got the server installation...10:07
cmathesoniveqy: hmm, i wouldn't think that should matter though.  it is ide right?  i can't think of any additional modules you'd need to install or anything...10:08
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iveqycmatheson: yes it is rigth. well than k you for your help, I will try to reboot, otherwise it's gonna be a live -cd tonight :)10:08
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cmathesoniveqy: hehe, ok10:09
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ElitePeteis their anyway to change what OpenSSH server for ubuntu says when users login ?10:10
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Grimlordhow do I tell if I have POSIX enabled?10:10
sethkElitePete, with source code, you can change anything.  I believe you can change it without mucking with the source, but I'd have to check.10:11
trappistElitePete: /etc/motd10:11
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Storkhow can i make my java program into a daemon?10:11
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_jasonElitePete, google seems to have a lot of hits for "ssh welcome message" but I haven't done it myself10:11
trappistyou just edit /etc/motd10:11
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trappistand PrintMotd yes in /etc/ssh/sshd_config10:12
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dirksonUnder which circumstances would I actually -need- LVM in my rc*.d files?10:12
ElitePete/etc/motd10:12
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ElitePeteis that a shell cmd?10:12
aztekanyone know of a good utility that will scan and list available wireless networks??10:12
trappistit's a file you edit10:12
zandaaElitepete, it's a file10:12
trappistaztek: kismet10:12
ElitePetei cant' seem to get to it10:12
zandaaelitepete, open up a terminal and type: "sudo gedit /etc/motd"10:13
ElitePeteahh ty zandaa10:13
zandaanp10:13
techrushwhat are the specific reason ubuntu doesnt support mp3s and flash "out of the box" ?10:13
DjLinXwhat dir is the kernel in on ubuntu10:13
Oblivion^if i try to start alsamixer it says function snd_ctl_open failed for default: no such file or directory, what can i do about that?10:13
zandaatechrush, copyright, legality issues10:13
harfoozhi all -- I'm having a real headache getting my fresh Breezy install's CPAN to work. Is someone available that could help this newbie troubleshoot?10:13
_jasontechrush, they aren't free10:13
techrushsome distros DO include them though10:14
techrushare they going to be sued ?10:14
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harfoozMy symptoms are: Can't test without successful make.10:14
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harfoozand I have build-essential installed.10:14
_jasontechrush, free in both senses of the word10:14
tOtahi ppl10:14
tOtai need help10:14
dirksonTechrush: Well, if you're talking about 64 bit and flash, it's at least partially because Macromeia is dumb and refuses to stay with current hardware.10:14
zandaat0ta, what you need help with?10:14
tOtaproblems with using dvd/rw10:15
techrushno im not talking about 64 bit10:15
tOtamy friend borowed me a dvd/ew10:15
techrushjust the distro i came from before ubuntu all that worked out of the box10:15
techrushso i was just cruious10:15
tOtamy friend borowed me a dvd/rw10:15
zandaat0ta, it's a copied DVD? (movie?10:15
_jasonubotu, tell techrush about restricted10:15
chrisx1Where Are The Config Files For Apache Located?10:15
trappistharfooz: the make is failing before you get that message10:15
tOtait is a data dwd10:15
tOtait is a data dvd10:15
dirksonTechrush: Mostly, I think it's just an ideaology thing. They don't want to put restrictive liscenses in with the default distro so that you can do WHATEVER you want with the default distro. Doesn't make a lot of difference to most people, but I assume it does to someone... somewhere...10:15
_jasontechrush, they have a blurb at the top explaining the situation iirc at that link ubotu sent you10:15
zandaat0ta, do you have a DVD drive in your computer?10:15
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HymnToLifechrisx1 > $HOME/.apache ?10:15
tOtai had a one10:16
techrushi understand how to set it up10:16
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techrushand the blurb is kinda vague i have looked at it10:16
chrisx1HymnToLife: nope10:16
tOtaand now i installed a dvd/rw10:16
trappisttechrush: the licences for the flash plugin and the mp3 codec forbid redistribution10:16
techrushwas just curious what the deepr underlying reasons were10:16
Storkhow can i make my java program run as a daemon?10:16
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jendatOta: data dvd's should be working10:16
DjLinXThe path "/usr/src" is a kernel header file directory, but it does not contain10:16
DjLinXthe file "linux/version.h" as expected.  This can happen if the kernel has neverbeen built, or if you have invoked the "make mrproper" command in your kernel10:16
DjLinXdirectory.  In any case, you may want to rebuild your kernel.10:16
DjLinX can someone tell me how to fix10:16
tOtaand its saying "special device hdc not exist"10:16
techrushso that means my old distro is breaking the law10:16
SeveasStork, that depends completely on the program10:16
tomodachidirectory. In any other graphic clients10:16
tOta???10:16
tomodachican someone plz paste the content of fstab to like this giblet chap.10:16
trappistStork: try in #java10:16
tomodachiThe path for ld10:16
tomodachidata dvd's should be doing that you can't be bothered to find packages there rather than having to switch between the two at runtime, then (since seb implemented that on the wiki>10:16
tomodachithe file too.....10:16
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harfooztrappist, is there something in particular that I should be looking for that can help? (I simply don't know what to do at this point.)10:16
dirksonSay- Does anyone know under which circumstances would I actually -need- LVM in my rc*.d files?10:16
tomodachithat depends on how you are blocking ident and dalnet still lets you on? yes, it can.. but it will automaticly update when you just need to be displayed.10:16
tomodachiand its no worse than usual10:16
tomodachiso that apt can install many proprietary packages that can go to #gaygeeks10:17
chrisx1Where Are The Config Files For Apache Located?10:17
_jasonubotu, tell tomodachi about enter10:17
trappistharfooz: an error message with a hint about what went wrong10:17
steve_laptophello everyone10:17
tomodachiis there any other icons you guys have been10:17
tomodachiSay- Does anyone have verizon DSL or a Westel USB wifi adapter?10:17
tomodachiWhere Are the C header files installed for the line you put ".com"10:17
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tOtaso could i took with someone on private you guys are too fast :D10:17
steve_laptopWOW sony's a bitch!!!10:17
trappistharfooz: the vast majority of cpan modules are packaged - you should try apt-get first.10:17
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zandaasteve_laptop, what you mean?10:17
chrisx1where is httpd.conf located?10:17
aleaheytOta: whats your question?10:17
aleaheyill try to help10:17
steve_laptop? how do I relooad grub with out re installing10:17
aleahey./msg meh10:17
SeveastOta, there were some flooders... just ask in here10:18
Seveas!grub10:18
ubotufrom memory, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting10:18
HymnToLifechrisx1 > have  you tried Places > Search for files ?10:18
chrisx1on ssh ?10:18
Grimlordanyone here who can help me with Posix?10:18
chrisx1its a lil hard to click(Y)10:18
Seveaschrisx1, nowhere, it's /etc/apache2/apache2.conf10:18
HymnToLifeindeed :p10:18
trappistchrisx1: ssh doesn't have an httpd.conf10:18
chrisx1i aint got apache2 ?10:18
Seveas!tell Grimlord about anyone10:18
aleaheythen its /etc/apache/apache.conf10:18
trappistchrisx1: then try /etc/apache/httpd.conf10:18
chrisx1l10:18
chrisx1k10:18
aleaheytrappist: i think httpd.conf is blank10:19
aleaheyin newer vers10:19
_jasonchrisx1, you can use the 'locate' command to search for files easily10:19
harfooztrappist, I'm going to post output to pastebin.10:19
steve_laptopzandaa, geting fn geys working, mouse pad, and the Brightness settings I have yet to get working. This is my first sony laptop VGN-S46010:19
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chrisx1ty10:19
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zandaasteve_laptop, ah ok <_< I don't know all that much about laptops, sry10:20
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tOtaseveas pls look for a new open window10:20
harfooztrappist, http://pastebin.com/46143310:20
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tOtaim trying to get help from you on private10:20
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SeveastOta, I don't give help in private10:21
steve_laptopzandaa, Other then the learning part of it, it rocks!!10:21
zandaaah ok :)10:21
Seveasespecially if you don't ask before invading a private window10:21
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tOtaseveas who does :D10:21
harfooztrappist, hey thanks for the heads-up about it being available via apt-get!!10:21
Murrlinhi all. running xfce, my mixer settings zero out. what do I check?>10:21
harfooztrappist, that worked fine for me!10:21
tOtai asked before but didnt got a answer10:21
tOta;)10:21
lucasvodaniels: ping10:21
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aleaheytOta i said id try to help you10:21
tOtaok i im goona ask again :D10:22
steve_laptopok how to I reset up the boot loader with out reloading?10:22
Seveaslucasvo, daniels isn't in here10:22
harfooztrappist, apt-get install libwww-perl did the trick!10:22
tOtai have problems with mounting, reading dvd/rw10:22
JaredIs there a way to remove a directory regardless if it is empty or not?10:22
harfoozI was able to find it by doing apt-cache search lwp10:22
trappistharfooz: awesome10:22
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SeveasJared, rm -r10:22
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aleaheyJared: rm -r10:22
Techie_dudethanks10:22
harfooztrappist, thanks again! gotta get back to work now!10:22
tOtawhen i use command sudo mount /media/cdrom0/ -o unhide10:22
tOtaits says: special device /dev/hdc does not exist10:22
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zandaahm...10:23
lucasvoSeveas: why, where is he?10:23
aleaheypastebin the contents of your /etc/fstab10:23
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zandaamonkey-bubble's sound doesn't work10:23
tOtai look in disks and i saw 1 extra drive10:23
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b166whats the command to install a .run ?10:23
trappistsh filename.run10:24
tOtao yes im getting help....10:24
Daveychmod +x *.run10:24
Davey./*.run10:24
tOtafrom no one10:24
GrimlordHow can I tell if I have Posix loaded or not?10:24
Daveyyour computer boots?10:24
KyralPosix is...10:25
trappistGrimlord: posix is a set of standards.  it's not something you have loaded or not.10:25
HymnToLife!posix10:25
ubotuHymnToLife: Syntax error in line 110:25
Grimlordok, thank you10:25
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tOtaso now my dvd/rw cant eject10:25
tOtathis is nice10:26
ElitePetet0ta have you tried right clicking it and hittign eject?10:26
Superbobtype "eject cdrom2 in terminal10:26
Superbob* "eject cdrom"10:26
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tOtanop10:26
trappistit won't eject if it's mounted10:26
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zandaasuperbob, how I close the tray from terminal?10:27
tOtaman this sucks big time10:27
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Superbobzandaa, dont think you can10:27
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bulio|lapubuntu 5.10 was giving me validation problems about packages during install10:27
tOtahi bulio neowin mod :D10:28
aleaheyis it a laptop?10:28
ardchoillewhen I type crontab -e, nano is the default editor for it. How do I make vi the permanent default editor for crontab -e ?10:28
bulio|lapcan I just re-install 4.10, and upgrade to 5.10?10:28
aleaheytry doing the eject command again10:28
cyphasewhere can you find a history of a users logins?10:28
bulio|laphi tOta :P10:28
bulio|lapis it possible?10:28
trappistcyphase: lastlog10:28
tOtaso how is ubuntu running for you10:28
bulio|lapI'm re-installing 4.1010:28
trappistcyphase: also /var/log/auth.log10:28
bulio|lap5.10 install was giving me problems10:28
tOtai cant open dvd data disk and cant mount/unmount10:28
tOtastupipd10:28
bulio|lapcan I upgrade to 5.10 from 4.10?10:28
tOtai think you cant10:29
tOtabut whay do you want to that10:29
bulio|lapso I have to re-download it?10:29
bulio|lap5.1010:29
tOtabut 5.10 is better!! :D10:29
tOtaif you think that 4.10 would be faster, i think that 5.10 is faste10:30
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tOtaif you think that 4.10 would be faster, i think that 5.10 is faster10:30
aleaheyhes saying he wants to install 4.1010:30
aleaheyand upgrade10:30
aleaheyto 5.1010:30
tOtaits easier to download a 5.1010:30
tOtaimo10:30
steve_laptopwhats he installing it on?10:30
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aleaheynot if he already got package problems10:30
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aleaheyprobably funky cd10:30
tOtamaybe that10:31
topylican you stop the gnome 2.12 task list from flashing the windows with new events?10:31
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tOtacan you use a dvd on your linux?? no you cant :p10:31
chrisx1How Do You Restart Apache1?10:31
aleaheysure you can10:31
chrisx1*apache210:31
aleaheyi do10:31
aleaheychristel: sudo apache2ctl restart10:31
tOtahehe i cant so fck it10:31
aleaheyor stop, or start10:32
topylii.e. when i open a web link and firefox opens it in a new tab, i don't want to see the flashing taskbar all day10:32
chrisx1ty10:32
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zandaahey people, when opening the game monkey-bubble, I can't get any sound out of it... while ogg files are normally supported10:32
CarlosChello10:32
MozoI get this error compiling the NVidia Driver for Linux: error: asm/linkage.h: no surch file or directory10:32
Mozocan any help me? :)10:32
CarlosCHELLO... i have a QUESTION10:32
aleaheyno way10:32
aleahey:p10:32
KyralMozo: Its in the headers file for your kernel10:33
tOtalol10:33
KyralCarlosC: no caps please10:33
SuperbobtOta, have you checked ur fstab?10:33
MozoKyral, I have the headers installed ..10:33
topyliCarlosC: great. ask away, but please don't shout10:33
tOtaand its says hd610:33
CarlosCsorry; just for you people to know Im there10:33
tOtaand hdc10:33
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trappistCarlosC: unnecessary10:33
CarlosCwhy does the web browser version of msn doesn't work ?10:34
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LethalSwordhi10:34
zandaaCarlosC, do you have enabled popups to load from that website?10:34
cryogen12has ne1 got a sli system to work cant even install10:34
tOtai have hda1 linux install, hda6 swap partition, hdc dvd and hda5 ntfs10:34
CarlosCoh; good question. Thanks10:34
LethalSwordi just installed the firefox but it wont run does anybody know how to help me?10:34
zandaaCarlosC, that sometimes could help:P10:35
tOtai have hda1 linux install, hda6 swap partition, hdc dvd and hda5 ntfs10:35
_jasonLethalSword, what do you mean you jsut isntalled it?  it should have been installed by default.  Did you do a server install?10:35
LethalSwordno i installed the new one10:35
LethalSword1.510:35
MozoKyral, I checked in /usr/src/linux/include/asm and found "linkage.h"10:35
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tOtaman its saying that my dvdrw doesnt exist10:35
KyralMozo: I have the same problem10:36
KyralMozo: sometimes NVidia's package is a bitch about it10:36
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CarlosCthaks Zandaa10:36
MozoKyral, pootz =(10:36
zandaaCarlosC, it works now?10:36
LethalSwordthe firefox-bin wont run :S10:37
LaserLineHello all, I have a computer science question... anyone willing to answer?10:37
KyralMozo: the NVidia-GLX package is quite sufficient10:37
LaserLine(it's cross platform)10:37
Seveas!tell LaserLine about anyone10:37
MozoKyral, not for me :/10:37
KyralMozo: Why not?10:37
MozoKyral, i can't play Quake with this driver10:37
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MozoKyral, work to slowly10:37
KyralMozo: Is it a Legacy card?10:37
Mozolegacy = generic ?10:37
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SuperbobtOta, what happens when you type "ls /dev/dvd*"10:38
Mozo(sorry :P)10:38
KyralLegacy == OLD10:38
Mozo oh10:38
LaserLineSeveas I guess you'd like to answer :D10:38
Mozo:P10:38
mrkojetOta,  maybe its right... it doesn't exist?10:38
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SeveasLaserLine, just ask10:38
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Mozoit I unkow10:38
Seveasand if it's off-topic, come to #ubuntu-offtopic10:38
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Mozoall that I know is that run to slowly Quake 1 with this driver10:38
KyralMozo: what chipset?10:38
LaserLineJava is a cross platform programing language, which means same code and sytax will run on every OS that as the Java virtual environment.10:39
MozoKyral, Nvidia GeForce2 MX 40010:39
luc2Hi. I added kde 3.5 stable repository for kubuntu in my breezy but it complains about gpg signature. How can i resolve this?10:39
tOtayou says: /dev/dvd10:39
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tOtajust says in terminal: /dev/dvd10:39
KyralMozo you may want to try nvidia-glx-legacy10:39
tOtaso what that means10:39
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LaserLineIf SUN can make a JVM, why not make a Cross Platform compiler, that will be able to compile same source for diffrent OS.10:39
bulio|lapso re-download 5.10?10:39
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trappisttOta: ls -l /dev/dvd10:39
SuperbobtOta, and "ls /media/*"10:40
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SeveasLaserLine, because different platforms have differen binary formats10:40
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bulio|laphmm10:40
MozoKyral, can run this driver with more performance ?10:40
tOta root root 3 2005-12-12 21:43 /dev/dvd -> hdd10:40
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Seveasthe java binaries are the same everywhere, but need a runtime 'interpreter'10:40
LaserLineSeveas, that's what I mean, a compiler that's cross platform.10:40
LethalSwordhello can anyone help me?10:40
SeveasLaserLine, impossible10:40
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KyralMozo: If the GeForce2 MX 400 is Legacy (and i think it is...not sure) then yes it should10:40
tOtaand when i type ls /media/ i get : cdrom  cdrom0  windows10:40
tOtaso10:41
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LaserLineSeveas, JVM takes the source and makes it work on unix, windows, etc... - it's the same source, but every flavour of JVM is diffrent. Wh not make it a compiler?10:41
KyralLaserLine: GNU is...10:41
SuperbobtOta, any files listed under the cdrom sections?10:41
trappistLaserLine: you can cross-compile with gcc if your source is cross-platform-compatible, which is possible but rare10:41
MozoKyral, hmm10:41
zandaaanyone know what kinda device Monkey-bubble uses for sound output?10:41
yo2luxhi , i have a problem with /etc/fstab and i have a backup.. but ubuntu not allow to overwrite the file, what need to do? any idea?10:41
bulio|lap5.10 breezy badger?10:41
bolrodjava compiles part of java codes10:41
LaserLineWhat is that rare?10:41
dooglusLaserLine: JVMs don't take the source.  They run byte-code.  The compiler takes the source and generates byte-code10:41
bolrodwhen you run it10:41
bolrodon the fly10:41
tOtanop10:41
aleaheyyo2lux: do its as root, sudo cp10:41
MozoKyral, the QuakeGL is bronken... and Quake via Soft run too slowly10:42
bulio|lapuys?10:42
LethalSwordhello?10:42
bulio|lap*guys10:42
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bulio|lapits ubuntu 5.10 breezy badger?10:42
yo2luxaleahey thanks, work !10:42
bulio|lap617MB .iso right10:42
tOtaand the worst thing is that i cant open my dvd/rw10:42
aleaheyyo2lux: :) np10:42
SuperbobtOta, try "sudo mount /dev/dvd /media/cdrom0"10:42
dooglusLaserLine: also, some programs only work on the MS JVM, others only on the Sun JVM.  It's not like all Java programs run on all JVMs10:42
trappistLaserLine: source that will compile on diverse platforms is rare10:42
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H0ganHi, I'm trying to install Ubuntu but have run into a few snags with existing Partitions. Anyone here willing to try help in Query window?10:43
vr^238how do i hide the scrollbar in aterm?10:43
tOtayeeesssssss10:43
jendaYou experts: I just had a guy (|3lack|ce) who couldn't apt, mv, ls or rm on a fresh install. It did NOTHING at all. Any ideas?10:43
MozoKyral, i getting the nvidia-glx-legacy and dependences now10:43
tOtayes baby go go bob10:43
KyralMozo: Mkay10:43
tOtathank you man, you are the l33t :D10:43
Superbobnp10:43
dooglusjenda: did he forget to run a terminal first?10:43
LaserLineIt's wierd it isn't possible. The idea came up because Java is a bit slow, and I guess if instead of running in a VM, but run in OS nativly, we can keep Java's cross platform abilities but make it a lot faster.10:43
MozoKyral, mkay ??10:43
tOtaman im staying on ubuntu because ppl like bob ;)10:43
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Kyralokay10:43
jendadooglus: I didn't say he was stupid, did I? )10:43
Mozoah..10:43
Mozo:P10:44
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dooglusjenda: you said he was having problems running ls, so you kind of did...10:44
aleaheyhaha10:44
SuperbobtOta, you may need to edit fstab tho as this wont change when you reboot10:44
jendadooglus: No he didn't. the basic commands were obviously not installed/ not fully10:44
tOtaso what should i do mi810:44
zandaajenda, was he using sudo?10:44
tOtato rename something or what10:44
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cryogen12anyone had any success installing with a sli rig . mine keeps freezing at boot10:44
DRAGON_Ultra? for some one will Ubuntu burn a DVD File or does it just burn CDs10:44
tOtacryogen just unplug one VGA and its ok :D10:45
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aleaheyDRAGON_Ultra: ubuntu doesnt burn anything in and of itself10:45
jendazandaa: no10:45
aleaheybut there are applications that will burn dvds10:45
SuperbobtOta, type "cat /etc/fstab" then under the options section of your dvd drive make sure "user" is one of them10:45
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jendazandaa: and for apt-get, he was - still no response, just a prompt gain10:45
jenda*again10:45
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SuperbobtOta, i.e use a text editor10:46
rosengnomebaker can do that10:46
tOtaok10:46
DRAGON_Ultraso if I get a dvd burner it will let me burn a dvd file right?10:46
dooglusjenda: what about in a virtual console?10:46
MozoKyral, done. i'll restart my pc.. i back soon.. bye and thanks :)10:46
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cryogen12tota thanks . after install can i reconnect 2nd card?10:46
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bulio|lapwill apt-get dist-upgrade allow me to upgrade from ubuntu 4.10 to 5.10?10:46
jendadooglus: dunno, he had to go and I didn't think of that.10:46
tOtai dont know10:47
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bulio|lapanyone?10:47
gnomefreakbulio|lap,  yes if you follow the wiki10:47
H0ganOk, so I am using Windows XP home. I created a partition and it rebooted, but it is rebooted from the new partition, and seeing as nothing is on it, I get a message 'No Operating System' So I am trying to Install Ubuntu,but when I get to the 'Partition Disks' part I dont see an option to install it on the new partion. Just options to create or erase the current partition. Can anyone help?10:47
gnomefreakubotu tell bulio|lap about upgrade10:47
dooglusjenda: if 'ls' wasn't installed, you'd see an error message "command not found".  sounds like something bad has happened.10:47
bulio|lapthanks10:47
gnomefreakyw10:47
bulio|lapremember10:47
trappistH0gan: there's a 'manually configure partitions' or somesuch10:47
bulio|lapI'm going from 4.10 to 5.1010:47
bulio|lapgot the CD last year10:47
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jendadooglus: As I said, not fully installed. It has to be there, but blank or something (even tha mans are intact)10:48
tOtabob could you type the command to edit fstab in nano10:48
H0gantrappist, I go into that and I see my new partition, but then when I try to continue it just refreshes back to the Partition Disk screen10:48
dooglusjenda: "man" worked?10:48
zandaawhere can I find "Qt's moc"???10:48
ToR911i don't think vmware goes well with exclipse10:48
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ToR911eclipse10:48
bulio|lapgnomefreak: may I PM?10:48
jendadooglus: Yes. And it was a fresh install. Incredible.10:48
dooglusjenda: try a "type ls" to see what ls is running10:49
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gnomefreakno im too busy right now but ty for asking first10:49
SuperbobtOta, "sudo nano /etc/fstab"10:49
bulio|lapok10:49
bulio|lapis there anyone able to talk to me in a PM about upgrading?10:49
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tOtaso bob what to rename10:49
jendabulio|lap: I sincerely recommend a clean install10:49
gnomefreak!upgrade10:49
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade10:49
trappistbulio|lap: that's not how it works.  you ask a specific question and anyone who knows answers.10:49
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bulio|lapI'm going from 4.10 to 5.1010:50
tOtato rename or what10:50
j2daoshwhat is up peoples?!10:50
bulio|lapshould I dl an ISO?10:50
bulio|lapor apt-get10:50
tOtabulio download the iso10:50
jendaj2daosh: Ready. What's up with you?10:50
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SuperbobtOta, yeah save a backup first10:50
j2daoshhow do u use the apt -get?10:50
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bulio|lapok10:50
tOtait will be cleaner and faster10:50
bulio|lapthe >ISO10:50
j2daoshnot a whole lot10:50
H0ganWhat should the file system be to install Ubuntu on? At the minute mine is Ext210:50
bulio|lapis it 617MB?10:50
jendabulio|lap: Definitely ISO - it's the best way. Backup and clean install10:50
tOtayep10:50
j2daoshjust trying to soak up everyones info10:50
j2daoshlol10:50
jendaH0gan: EXT3 or reiserfs10:51
j2daosh<----newbie10:51
bulio|lapI had 5.10 ISO before10:51
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bulio|lapwas giving me problems10:51
tOtabob i know im n00b but a command for a backup10:51
jendaj2daosh: man apt-get :)10:51
jendabulio|lap: problems?10:51
bulio|lapjust let me know10:51
tOtai know i need to type copy command and then folder of file and where to backup10:51
j2daoshspeaking of which... what do i have to do inorder to play mp3s?10:51
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LethalSwordmy ubuntu wont update10:51
SuperbobtOta, press ctrl + o to type a new name for fstab like fstab.old10:51
j2daoshhey jenda... is there like a non technical format for info on apt -get?10:51
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bulio|lapubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso 617MB10:52
bulio|lapis that right?10:52
j2daoshlol i dont unsteand that man article so well10:52
jendaj2daosh: PM10:52
j2daoshunderstand10:52
j2daoshpm?10:52
beelzebub1987Hello!10:52
tOtabulio thats the one10:52
gnomefreakubotu tell j2daosh  about apt10:52
tOtabulio what cpu do you have10:52
tOtain your laptop10:52
bulio|lapno10:52
H0gan'No root file system is defined' Anyone know how to retify this?10:52
bulio|lapin desktop10:52
bulio|lapi38610:52
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SuperbobH0gan, you need to set te mount point to "/"10:53
beelzebub1987Anyone here a gamer?10:53
Superbob*the10:53
oxezI am10:53
bulio|lapso its good?10:53
beelzebub1987oxez10:53
beelzebub1987what games you play10:53
tOtayep10:53
jendaj2daosh: can you see the private message?10:53
LethalSwordim a gamer but not as much on linux lol10:53
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oxezbeelzebub1987: I am a gamer, but that's why I have a windows partition10:53
oxezbeelzebub1987: counter-strike mostly, I play in leagues10:53
beelzebub1987aww10:53
tOtai downloaded a K7 kernel for my pc, because i have a K710:53
jendabulio|lap: looks good10:53
beelzebub1987anyone here a ubuntu gamer?10:53
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tOtabut you need to install it first10:53
oxezbeelzebub1987: what game you want to play?10:53
H0ganAt the moment the mount point is: /media/hda2   Should I just change this to '/' on its own?10:53
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bulio|lapwait10:54
bulio|lapI have 5.10 on a CD10:54
jendaH0gan: if that's the partition you installed as /, then yes10:54
tOtaand then you install kernel specific for your CPU, but i think if you have a Pentium you dont need it10:54
bulio|lapwas giving me package install problems10:54
SuperbobH0gan, make sure that the partition your installing the base ubuntu has the mount point /10:54
beelzebub1987well10:54
LethalSwordmy ubuntu is acting im im going to reformat10:54
beelzebub1987I really wanted to play ragnarok online on my ubuntu10:54
LethalSwordcyas10:54
beelzebub1987but it's not possible =(10:54
tOtamy bro plays planeshift on ubuntu :D10:55
bulio|lap30 mins10:55
SuperbobH0gan, say if hda2 was the ubuntu partition then yes10:55
j2daoshi run apt from the terminal window right?10:55
beelzebub1987how are the graphics on planeshift?10:55
oxezbeelzebub1987: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=92810:55
tOtaaverege10:55
oxezbeelzebub1987: from what I see, your game runs perfect on Ubuntu breezy 5.10 (gold)10:55
tOtait is a MMORPG10:55
beelzebub1987eh?10:55
Superbobi think i played that a year ago10:55
beelzebub1987really?10:55
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Superbobit was naff as hell10:56
jendaj2daosh: Do you see the PM?10:56
oxezbeelzebub1987: It's rated Gold10:56
H0ganWhat should my 'Mount Options' be set as?10:56
beelzebub1987woahmg10:56
tOtabulio: download a iso image burn it @ speed like 16x and on a little better cd10:56
jendaj2daosh: The private message10:56
j2daoshyes... i think im talking in it?10:56
j2daoshwell not that time10:56
tOtanot on a chepiest :D10:56
tOtamaybe you cd was damaged10:56
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SuperbobH0gan, i dont think you need to change mount options, just mount point10:56
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j2daoshjoin #j2daosh10:57
H0ganSuperbob, I changed the mount point to '/' then went to '...write changed to disk' and it said that I have uncorrected errors, any ideas as to what they might be :\10:57
mrkoje!bot snack10:57
ivanpessoal como fao para baixar os codecs para msicas?10:57
ubotuthanks mrkoje :)10:57
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siriusnovahi10:57
siriusnovaeveryone sleeping?10:58
SuperbobH0gan, if you press ctrl + alt + f2 does it show any error msgs?10:58
Kyralivan: #ubuntu-es10:58
ivanwith?10:58
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Superbobyourself10:58
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H0ganSuperbob, tells me to hit enter for console, then it tells me to type help for commands10:59
ivanI'm trying sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins10:59
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Kyralivan: Do you need a spanish speaking channel (only asking because your first line was in spanish)10:59
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teethBosshey guys10:59
teethBossanyone here up for helping me with something?10:59
ivanno rsrs.. is portuguese10:59
KyralteethBoss: we are all here11:00
erUSUL!anyone11:00
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>11:00
SuperbobH0gan, sorry how about ctrl + alt + f3 (press ctrl + alt +f1 to go back to install screen)11:00
Kyralivan: I can't tell lol11:00
Kyral<=== Stupid American :D11:00
tOtasuperbob: its not working11:00
ivanyou11:00
tOtai have mounted it but cant eject cd11:00
teethBossive been told not to ask to ask, but to ask, but in certain channels, that gets me yelled at11:00
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tOtai have mounted it but cant eject dvd11:00
teethBossso i play it safe11:00
SeveasteethBoss, here we are friendlier :)11:00
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siriusnovaanyone here sync a windows ce device with Ubuntu?11:01
trappistunless you ask to ask11:01
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bulio|lapI hope this install cd works11:01
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SuperbobtOta, did you edit fstab and save it as fstab?11:01
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siriusnovamultisync has "issues"11:01
siriusnovawith Evolution11:01
Techie_dudehow do i install a bin file in Breezy11:01
H0ganFile descriptor 3, 4, 5, 6 left open. No Matching phyisical volumes found. That's what it says, Superbob.11:01
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tOtabut what in fstab do i need to edit11:01
siriusnovaalso Evolution has issues with my imap server hehe11:01
teethBossanyway, here's my problem. I have an Intel IPW 2200 Card and im trying to dual boot. I have ubuntu all set up and its working wonderfully...I will never go back to slackware, but my problem is this. My wireless card no longer woeks in windows11:01
tOtato rename or what11:01
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teethBossany ideas?11:02
SuperbobH0gan, ok seems like a small problem can you type "fdisk -l" in the terminal?11:02
Techie_dudehow do i install .bin files in breezy11:02
trappistteethBoss: sounds like a windows issue.  hard to imagine ubuntu hosin the hardware in just such a way as to break it for windows.11:02
KyralteethBoss: Sounds like a Windows Problem11:03
trappistteethBoss: try sh filename.bin11:03
tOtaso bob11:03
SuperbobtOta, on the line that says /cdrom0 make sure "user" is in the options column11:03
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tOtayes it says udf,iso9660 user, noauto11:03
beelzebub1987thanks oxez =)11:03
tOtashould i change noauto to auto11:03
beelzebub1987hopefully this works11:03
SeveastOta, no11:03
tOtaok11:04
Superbobt0ta, thats odd11:04
teethBossim sure it is something with windows, but the proble was def caused by ubuntu. i have had situations before dual-booting where an ethernet card only worked in windows if i REBOOTed linux, not shut down11:04
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teethBossive tried it, that doesnt work either11:04
tOtawhat is odd11:04
H0ganSuperbob, Okay, I typed fdisk -l It gave me my list of two partitions11:04
ExxcaliberteethBoss, Do you still believe in santa claus ? :)11:04
rickardhi, anyone here running rhythmbox?11:04
teethBossheck yes i do11:05
rickardok11:05
teethBoss;-)11:05
rickardI have a question11:05
SuperbobH0gan, does it say what filesystems they use like ext3/linux11:05
erUSULrickard, me11:05
rickardis there anyway to manage your library?11:05
rickardlike syncing with a folder on disc11:05
ExxcaliberteethBoss, Greate.. cause then i guess we shall just proceed using your theory about the ethernet card :)11:05
Exxcaliber:P11:05
teethBossExxcaliber why?11:05
H0ganThe first one is using 'Hidden HPFS/NTFS' and the second one is using 'Linux'11:05
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H0ganSuperbob.11:05
rickardor remove broken files etc11:05
gnomefreaki keep forgetting this room is open :(11:05
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doogersChan UBUNTU Italian?11:06
erUSULrickard, not that i know of... sorry11:06
erUSUL!it11:06
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!11:06
siriusnovauhh hey guys11:06
rickardokey11:06
siriusnovaanyone want to help me with setting up evolution?11:06
ExxcaliberteethBoss, it's far out.. and besides, drivers usually work way better in windows.. If they really don't then switch to the standard ones.. Ubuntu is using standard ethernet drivers11:06
siriusnovamy school has a ms-exchange server :/11:06
rickardshouldn't be too hard to write a program to fix it11:06
siriusnovawhat is an OWA url?11:06
ToR911ok vmware and eclipse don't work good with each other :)11:06
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rickardfrom what I can see rhythbox just uses the xml-files for library database11:07
SuperbobH0gan, ok i dont what the could be, unless you have no swap partition11:07
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Superbob*problem11:07
KeithWeissharwhat happens if i install a third-party boot manmager while grub was originally installed to the mbr on the first hard drive11:07
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H0ganHmmm, alright, cheers anyway Superbob.11:07
KeithWeissharcan i install BootIt NG11:07
teethBossim really confused. I wonder if uninstalling ipw2200 fromlinux will help. I need wireless in windows, but i dont need it in linux11:07
tOtaso bob help me now :)11:07
tOta:D11:08
SeveasKeithWeisshar, yes but you should not11:08
gnomefreakKeithWeisshar,  dont know i stay with grub just fewer openings for problems :(11:08
rickardare there any other music players like rhythmbox out there that I can try?11:08
SuperbobtOta, lol well you can read the dvd now?11:08
tOtayep11:08
FujitsuXMMS, rickard11:08
tOtabut cant eject11:08
Superbobcan you type "eject cdrom"11:08
erUSULrickard, banshee11:08
ElitePeteyou gotta keep em seperated!11:08
rickardFujitsu, but does it have the audio library thing?11:08
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KeithWeisshardoes anyone use bootit ng11:09
teethBossalright im out11:09
aegercan somebody please tell me how can i install libxaw6 and libgtk1.2 ? i cant apt-get it11:09
tOtait says: error: could not determine real path of the device: No such file or directory eject: unmount of / failed11:09
KeithWeissharit's a partition/boot manager from terabyte11:09
teethBosstalk to you all later11:09
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tOta so11:10
KeithWeisshari have windows on hd0 and ubuntu on hd111:10
SuperbobtOta, do you have just one optical device installed?11:10
tOtayes11:10
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winstonanyone got any tips on getting slimserver installed?11:10
Techie_dudei can't get my stupid router to work with my apache server.....stupid Belkin!11:11
gnomefreaksorry winston  i cant even get ssh-server to work :(11:11
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tOtaand in disks i have one extra hard disk that doesnt exist11:11
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tOtai dont have it in my computer11:11
ElitePetegnomefreak ssh server on ubuntu?11:11
gnomefreakyes lo11:11
ElitePeteweird... worked perfectly for me and i'm a total linux boob.11:11
gnomefreaklol11:11
H0ganAnyone know how I can assign swap space?11:11
ElitePetedid you forward port 22?11:11
gnomefreaki can connect to otehrs pc but they cant connect to mine11:11
gnomefreakyes11:11
Superbobwhat happens if u type "sudo ln -s /dev/cdrom0 /dev/dvd"11:12
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ElitePetegnome11:12
ElitePetewhats the address ?11:12
ElitePetei'll try.11:12
trappistgnomefreak: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart11:12
aegerCan somebody please tell me how can I install libxaw6 and libgtk1.2 ? I can't apt-get them.11:12
tOtastupid11:12
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gnomefreakim not sure anymore i havent set it back up i cant now im not using linux right now11:12
cafuego!test11:12
ubotuCrashed.11:12
ElitePete!test11:12
gnomefreaktrappist,  we tried that yesterday11:13
tOtaoooo11:13
gnomefreaki think its cause im not directly into the router11:13
tOtabob i have a idea11:13
erUSULaeger, apt-cache search libgtk1.211:13
erUSUL; apt-cache search libxaw11:13
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tOtamy dvd/rw isnt on same channel like the cd/rw was11:13
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Superbobchannel?11:13
bimberiaeger: those packages are in main, do you have that repository enabled?11:13
jbergcan i install ubuntu with floppies and internet? ive only seen cd options11:13
tOtaprimary, slave...11:14
Techie_dude...i downloaded java run time or what ever it is and it says i dont' have it and i can't get it from the firefox sire11:14
Techie_dudesite11:14
tOtasecondary master....11:14
Techie_dudenm11:14
Superbobt0ta, that shouldnt matter11:14
TrilomNeed help, i installed LimeWire the way it said to on the starter, and when i click on it to run it, it doesnt run........... help please11:14
aegererUSUL,  thanks, I'll try that.11:14
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bimberijberg: there are some alternative install methods here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation11:14
H0ganMy #1 primary partition has the black smiley face, how can I change it to a shite smiley face?11:14
tOtathe most biggest problem that soon i need to get bac this dvd/rw to my friend11:14
Superboblmao11:14
H0ganwhite*11:15
tOtaand i need to backup 25GB11:15
ToR911where does java install to?11:15
jbergthanks bimberi11:15
devilz_hi i was trying to install xmms and i get this11:15
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bimberijberg: np :)11:15
devilz_Errors were encountered while processing:11:15
devilz_ gdb11:15
devilz_ bug-buddy11:15
devilz_ ubuntu-desktop11:15
aegerbimberi,  I don't know, how can I make sure that I have it enabled?11:15
pinkisntwell i'm using zsnes and I have to run it as root to get sound even though all my other apps work ok with sound. why?11:15
Superbobit already is a shite smiley face11:15
ToR911where does java install to?11:15
tOta03 but i cant open the drive eject it11:15
H0ganSuperbob :P11:15
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ToR911or how do u search for files in ubu?11:15
tOta01 but i cant open the drive eject it11:15
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SuperbobtOta, did u do that last command i told u too?11:16
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tOtau mean user11:16
TrilomNeed help, i installed LimeWire the way it said to on the starter, and when i click on it to run it, it doesnt run........... help please11:16
bimberiaeger: In Synaptic, Settings -> Repositories.  More here - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto11:16
tOtai need to edit fstab right11:16
tOtai did that11:16
erUSULpinkisntwell, maybe you need to kill esd before lounching zsnes11:16
cmathesonTrilom: what happens if you start it from the shell?11:17
pinkisntwellbut why does it run as root?11:17
pinkisntwelli mean with sudo11:17
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aegerbimberi,  thanks, I'll look into it.11:17
SuperbobtOta, no i told u to "sudo ln -s /dev/cdrom0 /dev/dvd"11:17
Trilomcmatheson: how would i run it from the shell?11:17
bimberiaeger: np :)11:17
erUSULpinkisntwell, maybe as root it can kick esd out of the sound card ;)11:17
cmathesonTrilom: just open up an xterm or gnome-terminal or whatever and then 'cd' to where you unpacked LimeWire, and then try to './Limewire.sh' (or whatever the executable is)11:18
tOtain: /dev/dvd: file exists11:18
pinkisntwellesd is a sound server right?11:18
trappisttOta: ln -sf11:18
cmathesonpinkisntwell: just install libsdl1.2debian-esd11:18
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cmathesonpinkisntwell: (but yes, esd is a sound server)11:19
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tOtai did it11:19
tOtaso what now11:19
vr^238cmatheson: i'm not sure if i talked to you about aterm a few minutes ago.11:19
pinkisntwelland what's libsdl blah blah?11:19
tOtato use ls -s ....11:19
cmathesonvr^238: yeah you did11:19
vr^238cmatheson: how do i paste text?11:19
vr^238cmatheson: and click on links ?11:19
SuperbobtOta, does the eject cdrom command work now with "ln -sf11:19
cmathesonpinkisntwell: it's a package, apt-get install it11:19
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BlueDevildoes anyone know why setting Xft.dpi in /etc/X11/Xresources/xorg-common has no effect?11:20
tOtai dont have it11:20
trappisttOta: I mean sudo ln -sf /dev/cdrom0 /dev/dvd11:20
cafuegovr^238: Copy text by selecting it, paste by middle-click.11:20
cmathesonvr^238: well, to paste text, just middle-click and it will paste whatever you most recently copied onto the X clipboard (note that that is any-text you have selected)11:20
cmathesonvr^238: as far as links goes... i usually just hi-lite it and then middle-click it into my browser11:20
vr^238cmatheson, cafuego: thanks11:20
tOtai dont have dvd now11:20
H0ganAnyone know how to create a swap space partition?11:20
tOtai need to mount it again11:20
vr^238cmatheson: i see, thank you11:20
Kyralmkswap <partiion>11:20
cmathesonH0gan: cfdisk is pretty simple to use11:20
pinkisntwellwill it fix my problem?11:20
Kyralsudo :P11:20
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Kyralsudo swapon <partion>11:21
ToR911i installed java, but forsome reason it installed in in my Home directory, how do i make it a system install?11:21
tOtai dont have any signs of dvd11:21
cafuegoToR911: using 'make-jpkg'11:21
SuperbobKyral, hes at install stage11:21
cmathesonToR911: go check out the documentation for make-jpkg (apt-get install java-package)11:21
tOtaim in same situation like before typing anything11:21
Kyraloh11:22
ToR911will it get the SUN java?11:22
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SuperbobtOta, lol "sudo mount /dev/dvd /media/cdrom0"11:22
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ubuntu_hello?11:23
jendahello11:23
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ubuntu_can ANYONE PLEASE help me11:23
beelzebub1987Hi thurr11:23
jendawhat with?11:23
ubuntu_im REALLY new to linux11:23
H0ganAll I want to do is create a swap partition, and it's telling me 18gigs is the smallest i can make it? pfft, seems a tad high?11:23
ubuntu_like.....today new11:23
pinkisntwellI have already the oss version of libsdl, should I remove it?11:23
jendaubuntu_: That's OK. What's the matter?11:23
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ubuntu_well im a mac user running the live version of ubuntu11:24
SuperbobH0gan, try using fdisk maybe that'll be easier11:24
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ubuntu_i like it so far11:24
ubuntu_its nice11:24
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cmathesonubuntu_: hey that's great, but i dare you to ask your question11:24
ToR911god, so complicated to install java11:24
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trappistlol@cmatheson11:25
ubuntu_ok....11:25
ToR911i have to do the fakeroot, to isntall java on system??11:25
H0ganIs swap space vital?11:25
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ubuntu_i have no idea how to open a .tar or a .tar.gz file11:25
trappistH0gan: depends.  on a modern system, not usually11:25
bimberiubotu tell ToR911 about javadebs11:25
cmathesonToR911: no it's a peice of cake... make-jpkg is the greatest thing that ever happened to java on linux, try it out11:25
ubuntu_NO IDEA!11:25
ubuntu_and it is pissing me off11:25
trappistubuntu_: tar zxf filename.tar.gz11:25
chrisx1how do i unpack a tar.gz11:25
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lucasvoubuntu_: just doubble click on the file11:25
cmathesonubuntu_: .tar = tar xvf filename .tar.gz = tar zxvf filename11:25
ubuntu_i did11:25
chrisx1nm11:25
bimberiubuntu_: Applications -> Accessories -> Archive Manager11:26
Superbobtar -x <filename> <dest>11:26
IzzyCCDoes anyone have any experience with helping with ISPConfig installation issues on ubuntu?11:26
ubuntu_thats how to unstuff it?11:26
erUSULH0gan, no if you have plenty ram. you can use a file in the filesystem for swap space but i forgot how11:26
ubuntu_does it matter that im running the live and its not a full install11:26
tOtasuperbob: its says you must specify the fileystem type11:26
H0ganIn Ubuntu, is there an option to set which partition to boot from...? or will I automaticall get the choice when I boot up?11:26
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lucasvoubuntu_: in the command line one uses tar -x...11:26
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cmathesonH0gan: that's all part of your grub configuration (check out /boot/grub/menu.lst11:27
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lucasvoubuntu_: in a graphical system one uses archiv-manager which should automatically open when you click on the file11:27
SuperbobH0gan, you can edit that once grubs installed11:27
lucasvoubuntu_: this also works on the live cd11:27
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H0ganAlright, cheers Superbob, cmatheson.11:27
KnowerrorsAnyone know a good text recognition program, that will convert a scanned document into a text document?11:27
zandaadoes a fresh Ubuntu 5.10 (64-bit) installation have Java support?11:27
ubuntu_it does?11:27
lucasvoubuntu_: yes11:28
bimberizandaa: no11:28
trappistKnowerrors: gocr11:28
everton137Hi, did someone here make webcam work on gnomemeeting? When I click on camera button, linux stops. I have a Webpro2, LG. Wich ither program I can test webcam on Ubuntu?11:28
ubuntu_i double click on the file and the archive manager comes up with 1000 different files11:28
bimberiubotu tell zandaa about java11:28
ubuntu_which one to install?11:28
zandaabimberi, thnaks11:28
bimberizandaa: np :)11:28
lucasvoubuntu_: so now you can click extract11:28
cmathesonzandaa: no11:28
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erUSULubuntu_, what are you yrying to install?11:28
SuperbobtOta,  "sudo mount -t  /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom0"11:28
Superbobwith out the -t even11:28
ubuntu_for example....i want to install "mpg123-0.59r.tar.gz"11:29
ubuntu_i double click11:29
chrisx1how do i stop webmin?11:29
cmathesonubuntu_: yeah, that's the contents of the file11:29
lucasvoubuntu_: you don't have to compile....11:29
trappistubuntu_: just sudo apt-get install mpg12311:29
erUSULubuntu_, System->Admin->synaptic to install things11:29
Knowerrorstrappist: thx, will try11:29
bimberiubuntu_: mpg123 is in the multiverse repository (which you may have to enable - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto)11:29
erUSUL!tell ubuntu_ about sources11:29
chrisx1how do i stop webmin?11:29
erUSUL!tell ubuntu_ about mp311:30
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trappistchrisx1: /etc/init.d/webmin stop11:30
tOtaagain i cant eject it11:30
lucasvochrisx1: isn't it /etc/init.d/webmin stop11:30
trappisttOta: you have to umount to eject11:30
erUSULubuntu_, read the links ubotu send you11:30
tOtaok11:30
ubuntu_it says that Package mpg123 is not available, but is referred to by another package.11:30
ubuntu_This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or11:30
ubuntu_is only available from another source11:30
ubuntu_E: Package mpg123 has no installation candidate11:30
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tOtato unmount every the same just unmount instead of mount right11:30
cmathesonubuntu_: that's strange, try mpg321 it's even better11:31
lucasvotOta: yes11:31
trappistubuntu_: it was mentioned to you that you have to enable the multiverse repository to install it11:31
lucasvocmatheson: isn't it just a frontend?11:31
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erUSULubuntu_, read the links ubotu send you11:31
trappistubuntu_: that's true of a great many packages11:31
ubuntu_same thing11:31
ubuntu_ok will do11:31
SuperbobtOta,  "sudo umount   /dev/cdrom "11:31
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cmathesonlucasvo: afaik it's a different implementation that is less evil somehow (could be wrong... it's been a while since i looked into it)11:31
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lucasvoerUSUL: don't you need to have a registred to receive privmessages?11:31
ubuntu_multiverse repository?11:31
inigo_gabon11:31
ubuntu_what?11:31
tOtadevice is busy???11:31
trappistcmatheson: if it plays mp3s it's exactly as evil (which is to say not evil) as any other mp3 player11:32
chrisx1trappist: lucasvo  no it doesnt:(11:32
trat02community_need libgpod in breezy, hot to get it?11:32
trappisttOta: get out of the mount dir11:32
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trat02community_I cant find it in sources11:32
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lucasvoubuntu_: Synaptic > Settings > Repositories11:32
cmathesontrappist: yeah, but mpg123 is under a non-free license11:32
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trappistcmatheson: that's because the mp3 codec is nonfree11:33
siriusnovahmmm11:33
tOtai dont have open a mount directory or a cd11:33
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siriusnovawhat are some interesting packages to install? Im bored :)11:33
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siriusnovasomething neat?11:33
SuperbobtOta, or media dir11:33
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lfopsiriusnova, apt-get install supertux11:33
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siriusnovalfop - supertux runs slow on my 400mhz PII :/11:33
cmathesontrappist: not only because of mp3... the code itself wasn't under a very friendly license... they made mpg321 so that they could get a command-line mp3 player in debian11:33
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lucasvocmatheson: man webmin11:33
tOtabut now i dont have mount it and can open the dvd11:33
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ubuntu_im sooooo confused11:34
ubuntu_still cant get it11:34
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lfopsad .ogg isnt bigger.11:34
northieMy sb live! works with a Live CD boot but not in my installation, probably because I've switched cards a few times. Can I fix this without a reinstall?11:34
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cmathesonlucasvo: what about webmin now? wrong person?11:34
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trappistcmatheson: see /usr/share/doc/mpg123/copyright11:34
SuperbobtOta, of course11:34
ubuntu_i want to play .mp3 and .avi's11:34
ubuntu_i have no idea11:34
mykehello11:34
ubuntu_someone help?11:34
lucasvoubuntu_: just click on add and there you have to select "Non-free"11:34
tOtawhat ofcourse11:34
mitey`ubuntu sure is treating my laptop and wireless nicely :)11:34
cmathesontrappist: i don't have it installed... i realize it's gpl now but i'm assuming it hasn't always been that way11:34
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mykeim haveing a problem with viewing my unused space in 5.1011:35
lucasvoubuntu_: are you in the application Synaptic?11:35
tOtai dont have mount it and cant open a dvd11:35
chrisx1Failed to open /etc/rc.d/init.d/webmin for writing : No such file or directory11:35
chrisx1 <- Is That Bad?11:35
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SuperbobtOta, if its not mounted u can eject it , vice versa11:35
jovinosalve a todos11:35
ubuntu_yes11:35
trappistcmatheson: it's not gpl but it's sufficiently free for the debian freedom nazis11:35
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ubuntu_i just selected the non-free and its d/ling11:35
cmathesontrappist: they changed the license on 18 may 2001 to lgpl, not sure what it was before then11:35
tOtabut i got again the same eject error11:36
lucasvoubuntu_: system > administration > synaptic > settings > repositories > add > make a tick at: " Non Free" > ok11:36
trappistcmatheson: oh :)  it had its own unique license11:36
ubuntu_ok11:36
tOtaunable to eject media, unable to find or open device for: /dev/hdc11:36
cmathesontrappist: ah, that's probably why then :)11:36
lucasvoubuntu_: then press ok once again11:36
mykewhy is the disk utillie telling me my root partion is nto formated11:36
trappistcmatheson: I just noticed this copyright notice is dated 199711:36
ubuntu_ok11:36
lucasvoubuntu_: then press reload11:36
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jovinoreload11:36
ubuntu_k11:36
lucasvoubuntu_: wait till it's done11:36
SuperbobtOta, and if you press the eject button on the drive?11:37
ubuntu_k11:37
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lucasvoubuntu_: search > mpg12311:37
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tOtai get that error when i press the eject button11:37
ubuntu_k11:37
ubuntu_which one?11:37
twangerany good channel for totem and mpg anyone?11:37
cmathesontwanger: maybe the #gnome channel?11:37
lucasvoubuntu_: make a tick at the mpg123 package > apply11:37
ubuntu_there are 4 different ones11:37
twangerthanx11:37
mykeis there a wifi site monitor?11:37
mykefor ubuntu11:38
myke?11:38
SuperbobtOta, i guess its just looking in the wrong places for your drive11:38
trappistmyke: site monitor?11:38
lfopfor all your video-needs. apt-get install vlc.11:38
tOtawhat do i need to change11:38
trappistmyke: maybe you're looking for kismet11:38
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mykelike in *dows i can see what wifi APs are out there and connect to which one i want11:38
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tOtathis is driving me crazy :(11:38
SuperbobtOta, i cant think why it would give som much trouble11:38
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cmathesonmyke: yeah that's kismet11:38
hamstahhi11:38
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ubuntu_k it says its installing now11:39
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lucasvoubuntu_: take the one that's best11:39
JairunCalothanyone use wine much?11:39
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ubuntu_now this will make it play .mp3?11:39
tOtai typed all you said and did all11:39
jendaJairunCaloth: a little11:39
mykecamtheson  thnx11:39
lucasvoubuntu_: which one can you select?11:39
ubuntu_i just did mpg12311:39
JairunCalothI'm getting an error that says I have no free diskspace in wine, yet there is plenty11:39
Siph0nbtw: neone yesterday who was helping me with my dvds burning slow issue, in case ya all care i used NEROlinux instead of K3b and it burns right now :)11:39
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ubuntu_its installed11:39
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trappistmyke: yeah, you want kismet11:39
northieMy sb live! works with a Live CD boot but not in my installation, probably because I've switched cards a few times. Can I fix this without a reinstall? lspci detects it, but aplay -l says I haven't a card.11:39
rounehey11:39
northieAny help?11:39
sethkJairunCaloth, do you have multiple partitions?11:39
ubuntu_the latest version11:39
myketrappist  thnx11:39
cafuegonorthie: load the driver.11:40
JairunCalothnot beyond the defaults11:40
hamstahI have a problem with my ubuntu install, I'm using a live cd because i cant boot on my system, this is not my probelm, my problem is that i cant access my /home after i mounted my / partition... ( /home is on the same partition than the others ) can someone help me please?11:40
rounecan someone help with, a short one, with ubuntu?11:40
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SuperbobtOta, can you read it using "sudo mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0"11:40
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JairunCaloththere is an other drive too11:40
northiecafuego, It's an SB Live!, emu10k1 driver. Shouldn't it load automatically?11:40
chrisx1How Do I Uninstall Webmin11:40
northiecafuego, What ought I do?11:40
cmathesonhamstah: what do you mean you can't access /home?11:40
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myketrappist   the disk manager says my / partion isnt formated and i cnat tell how much free space is available11:40
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Siph0nactaully, maybe it didnt work fine :(11:41
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cmathesonmyke: ?? . try typing 'df -h' at the shell11:41
hamstahcmatheson, when i try to cd /home it says me that /home isnt a directory11:41
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tOtaagain specify filesystem11:41
hamstahcmatheson, and i have strange values when i ls -l11:41
intelikeyJairunCaloth 'no disk space' probably means that the program can't write to disk.   it may be permissions rather than disk space.11:41
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hamstah?r--rws-w-  13502 1839582238  230021670 1488727859 1950-06-23 17:20 home11:41
cmathesonhamstah: dump them to pastebin or something?11:41
Siph0nneone ever have an issue with NEROlinux where u burn sometin, and then when u put the dvd in, it says it is blank?11:41
lucasvohamstah: are you root?11:42
cmathesonhamstah: hmm, sounds like that install didn't go very smooth...11:42
hamstahyeah11:42
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hamstahcmatheson, my install was fine11:42
mykecmatheson it says im useign 38% but there is no mount point there11:42
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hamstahcmatheson, i installed it few months ago11:42
ubuntu_ok its installed?11:42
Siph0nnm :) ejected and put it in again and it works :)11:42
ubuntu_now what?11:42
myke/dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root11:42
myke                       72G   26G   43G  38% /11:42
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lucasvoubuntu_: how do you want to play mp3?11:42
hamstahI installed win last week to play aoe 3 :]  and then when i try to use linux it sucks11:42
cmathesonhamstah: did you do something that might have corrupted the partition?11:42
mykelol11:42
mykenm11:42
mykei see it11:42
rouneomg, chaos ^11:43
cmathesonmyke: wow that's really strange11:43
hamstahcmatheson, no11:43
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ubuntu_idc11:43
mykecmatheson is that a flaw?11:43
ubuntu_some way11:43
ubuntu_anyway i can really11:43
ubuntu_and i want to play .avi's11:43
ubuntu_no idea how to do that either11:43
cmathesonmyke: not sure, never heard of this before... did you say  this is w/ a live-cd?11:43
trat02community_cant get my iPod working without libgpod11:43
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trat02community_in breezy11:43
mykecmatheson the disk utilitie says it is not formatted11:43
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cmathesonhamstah: and you used to be able to get to home?11:43
mykeno install11:43
lucasvoubuntu_: open a terminal11:43
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beelzebub1987so um..11:43
ubuntu_yea11:44
chrisx1how do i make webmin start at startup?11:44
beelzebub1987anyone got a instruction guide11:44
trat02community_is any premade package for that?11:44
SuperbobtOta, can you read it using "sudo mount -t cdfs /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0"11:44
mykecmatheson here is the whole thing11:44
mykemyke@ubuntu:~$ df -h11:44
mykeFilesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on11:44
myke/dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root11:44
myke                       72G   26G   43G  38% /11:44
myketmpfs                 236M     0  236M   0% /dev/shm11:44
myketmpfs                 236M   13M  224M   6% /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile11:44
beelzebub1987on how to get ragnarok online working with wine11:44
myke/dev/hda1             228M   19M  197M   9% /boot11:44
mykesorry for the paste11:44
hamstahsince i installed windows i'm not able to boot on my partition, I fdisk /mbr but it doesnt fix it11:44
trappistmyke: don't paste here.11:44
Superbobdont paste like that!11:44
lucasvoubuntu_: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiver11:44
myketrappist11:44
intelikeymyke myke myke myke myke myke myke myke ,   don't do that.11:44
mykesorry11:44
lucasvoubuntu_: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse < correct11:44
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tOtaunknown filesystem type "cdfs"11:45
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cmathesonmyke: i've never seen this before... you say this is or isn't a live-cd? (i'm not familiar w/ how the live-cd handles partitions)11:45
Siph0ncan someone from windows remote desktop into my ubuntu pc?11:45
trat02community_nothing with libgpod in breezy??11:45
IzzyCCSiph0n sure11:45
IzzyCCdetails?11:45
mykecmatheson no this is NOT a livecd11:45
trat02community_found for drapper but not for breezy11:45
mykecmatheson this IS a install11:45
SuperbobtOta, can you read it using "sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0"11:45
cmathesonSiph0n: vnc11:45
soldieruk400hi all is there a chat sight for nomal chat installed on the unbuntu o/s?11:45
Siph0nk kool :)11:46
cmathesonmyke: wow that's crazy... i don't know what's up w/ that11:46
ubuntu_E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)11:46
ubuntu_E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?11:46
ubuntu_thast what it said when i typed that11:46
Superbobi'll fix this damn error as so many ppl get it11:46
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mykecmatheson  do i need to inform someone of this?11:46
cmathesonubuntu_: you've got synaptic or something open11:46
hamstahubuntu: another program is accessing db, wait before installing other11:46
tOtaspecial device /dev/hdc does not exist11:46
ubuntu_yea11:46
ubuntu_oh it cant b11:46
ubuntu_ok11:46
lucasvoubuntu_: you have to close synaptic11:46
ubuntu_word11:46
cmathesonmyke: hmm, i don't now... you could try posting on the ubuntu-users mailing list11:46
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SuperbobtOta, can you read it using "sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom0"11:46
stef65Hi all!11:46
mykecmatheson ok thnx11:47
mykecmatheson so where can i see how much space i have available?11:47
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JairunCalothSuch a dork sometimes....11:47
Siph0nso someone from windows cant use the remote desktop tool that comes with xp?11:47
lucasvoubuntu_: after you've done that: sudo apt-get install totem-gstreamer11:47
tOtablock device /dev/cdrom is write-protected, mounting read-only11:47
JairunCalothI acctually didn't have enough free space for the install11:47
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cmathesonmyke: df -h should be outputting accurate information, but your case does seem to be a bit more special...11:47
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trappisttOta: that's normal11:48
djteenbothey everyone11:48
soldieruk400hey lol11:48
stef65I still got trouble here getting the via xserver to run after a fresh breezy-install on a C3 mini itx... any hints??11:48
tOtabut how now to eject the cd11:48
djteenbotlol11:48
mykecmatheson that is weird11:48
tOtathat is the problem11:48
hamstahwhat are these permissions ?r--rws-w- ?11:48
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zandaahehe, I got Flash working on my 64-bit Ubuntu setup:P11:48
hamstahi have it on my /home when mounted with livecd11:48
SuperbobtOta, type "sudo eject cdrom"11:48
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ernestoIs msn messenger working? (because I cannot connect using gaim)11:49
Superbobas we mounted it as root we must unmount as such11:49
intelikeymyke 'du -h --max-depth=1 / '11:49
soldieruk400how would i get a side bar with a big clock on my desk top ?11:49
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ubuntu_0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 121 not upgraded.11:49
ubuntu_thats what it said at the end11:49
ubuntu_is that correct?11:49
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lucasvoernesto: I have o prblem with gaim11:49
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yurihello. I have an old kodak dvc 323 usb webcam I can't get working. Any ideas?11:49
lucasvoubuntu_: when you did sudo apt-get install totem-gstreamer?11:49
ubuntu_yea11:49
mykeintelikey does that show how big each file is on a disk?11:50
lucasvoubuntu_: so now open totem11:50
lucasvoubuntu_: and then in the menu vide > open file11:50
intelikeymyke it can yes.    man du11:50
ernestolucasvo: my problem is that it never finish the connection. Is that your case?11:50
lucasvoernesto: no11:50
lucasvoernesto: alias = email..11:51
ubuntu_There were no decoders found to handle the stream in file11:51
ubuntu_thats what it says11:51
ubuntu_it wont play it11:51
stef65is there a channel-bot to ask or a faq to read on xserver-conf on CLE266 / chrome graphics?11:51
lucasvoubuntu_: what file is it?11:51
djteenbotya i just got this setup lastnight its pretty cool im trying to configure how to use it11:51
ubuntu_.mp311:51
djteenbotlol11:51
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ubuntu_walk the line OST11:51
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ubuntu_from my external11:51
ubuntu_ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse11:52
ubuntu_Reading package lists... Done11:52
ubuntu_Building dependency tree... Done11:52
ubuntu_E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse11:52
ubuntu_ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install totem-gstreamer11:52
ubuntu_Reading package lists... Done11:52
ubuntu_Building dependency tree... Done11:52
ubuntu_totem-gstreamer is already the newest version.11:52
ubuntu_0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 121 not upgraded.11:52
siriusnovahow do i view samba shares in Gnome?11:52
Superbobnonono11:52
ubuntu_this is what it said from the terminal11:52
HymnToLifeubuntu_ > apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad11:52
siriusnovasmb:// ?11:52
zandaaubotu: tell ubuntu_ about pastebin11:52
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stef65!xserver11:53
ubotuI don't know, stef6511:53
lucasvoubugstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse?11:53
stef65!xorg11:53
ubotuwell, xorg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"11:53
lucasvoubuntu_: gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse?11:53
ubuntu_ea11:53
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ubuntu_thats what it said right there11:53
lucasvoubuntu_: cat /etc/apt/sources.list11:53
beelzebub1987I love Ubuntu.11:53
lucasvoubuntu_: what output gives it?11:53
Superbobpastebin it11:53
stef65!via11:54
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, stef6511:54
ubuntu_wtf, where is that?11:54
j2daoshanyone know how to sert up a sound card in here?11:54
lucasvoubuntu_: in terminal11:54
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stef65j2daosh: tried alsaconf?11:54
j2daoshnope because im a noob lol11:54
j2daoshhow do i use that?11:54
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lucasvoubuntu_: pastebin.com < past the output of the command in terminal: cat /etc/apt/sources.list11:54
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stef65j2daosh: open a terminal and 'sudo alsaconf'11:55
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j2daoshthat command isn't found11:55
yurihello. I have an old kodak dvc 323 usb webcam I can't get working. Any ideas?11:55
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mykeim trying to install Gyach and i get this error     http://pastebin.com/46156311:55
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Pianomany2khello all11:55
newbie74got a 200mmx gateway with 64megs ram and 2 gig hard drive  kubuntu didn't work so I format and tried ubuntu still don't work,  after loggin in pc does nothing11:56
jspshhi, can anyone tell me which rc file ubuntu execute once i log in?11:56
cyphasewould my graphics work without changes if i replaced my video card?11:56
j2daoshanyone?11:56
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cyphasethe old and new cards are both nVidias..11:56
Pianomany2kI don't see why not, cyphase. I believe in that aspect, it's somewhat like Windows11:56
gnuyenIf I have a pentium D and am running 64 bit ubuntu11:56
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gnuyenwhat is the proper kernel?11:56
gnuyenI'm running generic, but I want a smp kernel11:56
Dr_Williscyphase,  depends... it may.. :P what were the 2 cards?11:56
gnuyenbut the only smp kernels i see say K811:57
gnuyenwhich this processor is not11:57
intelikeynewbie74 you might have to trim ship to get her to sail in that shallow of waters.11:57
mykeim trying to install Gyach and i get this error     http://pastebin.com/46156311:57
stef65j2daosh: I'm sorry, just being a debian convert.... maybe a google search with 'ubuntu' and your sound card designation will turn up results...11:57
ubuntu_pastebin.com/46156611:57
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cyphaseDr_Willis, my current card is a GeForce 4 MX 440 AGP 8x11:57
ubuntu_thats what it said when i did that11:57
cyphase:)11:57
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cyphasethe new one, i don't know yet11:57
cyphasebut it's an nVidia11:57
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j2daoshahh :) i can try11:58
intelikeynewbie74 i have ran ub on a mmx 64m ram  it will work but you kinda need to know linux to get it to.11:58
Pianomany2kWhat does it take to get Ubuntu to recognize my Rockwell modem? It appears in the Devices window, but doesn't seem to be detected in "Network Configurations"11:58
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jspshcyphase> doesn't dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg reconfigure the X server after changes?11:58
Dr_Williscyphase,  that one may be new enough and related enough it wont matter.. but reconfguring your X - is rather trivial anyway :P11:58
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sinclairwhat kind of client does gmail uses? POP?11:58
Pianomany2kyes11:58
sinclairthanks11:58
chrisx1How do i start openssh11:58
ubuntu_is that right lucasvo/11:58
trappistchrisx1: /etc/init.d/ssh start11:58
beelzebub1987chris11:59
Superbobsinclair, you need to enable it in gmailsettings11:59
beelzebub1987err nvm11:59
jspshdoes any one know a startup scritp that i can use to mount user specific samba shares?11:59
newbie74intelikey so it's ram intense11:59
mykeim trying to install Gyach and i get this error     http://pastebin.com/46156311:59
gnuyenand is there any way to test 5.1 audio channels independently in linux so I know that my sound system is configured correctly?11:59
sinclairoh, okay.. i was asking because this evolution program was asking me..11:59
intelikeynewbie74 very.11:59
Dr_Willisjspsh,  ya could use some fstab entrys - but putting passwords in there is not a good idea.11:59
trappistjspsh: filesystems in /etc/fstab get mounted at boot time (unless configured not to)11:59
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mykeim trying to install Gyach and i get this error     http://pastebin.com/46156312:00

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